| Tuesday, June 20th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:05] | xris: | laga: it's apparently not, though, since he can't connect from the cli |
| [00:00:28] | Zambezi: | xris, laga: It's here: /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql |
| [00:00:36] | laga: | xris: yes, because 'mythtv' is not the right password. |
| [00:00:51] | laga: | mythtv-database will generate one and store it in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt. |
| [00:01:09] | Zambezi: | laga, I'll open it and check |
| [00:01:16] | xris: | laga: oh, it generates a random one? that's annoying/lame |
| [00:01:58] | laga: | xris: i think it's quite nice. but on debian, the password for the mysql root account is usually empty, IIRC ;) |
| [00:03:17] | Zambezi: | xris, laga: Ok. I have the password, the databasename and two other things. I guess I have to put them in "mythtv" when I run that in the terminal? |
| [00:03:28] | xris: | Zambezi: yup |
| [00:03:42] | laga: | well, yes. |
| [00:03:50] | laga: | but run mythtv-setup first. |
| [00:04:12] | laga: | (this is more amusing than studying) |
| [00:04:19] | xris: | lol |
| [00:06:51] | Zambezi: | laga, That was the setup I meant. I changed the password now. |
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| [00:07:59] | jieryn: | xris: hi |
| [00:08:05] | xris: | :) |
| [00:08:21] | jieryn: | xris: i'm running it by hand because i am not building a pvr, just using it on my home server |
| [00:08:37] | xris: | huh? |
| [00:08:44] | jieryn: | standalone pvr, i should say |
| [00:08:53] | xris: | still.. the backend runs it |
| [00:09:11] | jieryn: | hm.. i was instructed to set up a cron.daily to mythfilldatabase |
| [00:09:12] | xris: | much better to let it happen automatically. zap2it will tell mythtv the best time to run the update script |
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| [00:09:18] | BockBilbo: | hello |
| [00:09:59] | xris: | .18 forward will auto-run based on settings you provide in the frontend. .19 will auto-run based on when zap2it tells it to run (still has to be enabled in the settings in the frontend). |
| [00:10:15] | xris: | only time you should run manually is your initial install |
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| [00:11:50] | jieryn: | xris: i am also on my initial install ;) |
| [00:11:55] | BockBilbo: | do hello |
| [00:12:09] | BockBilbo: | *hello |
| [00:12:15] | xris: | BockBilbo: last time I said hello, you left.. I'm not going to do it again |
| [00:12:22] | BockBilbo: | xris, lol |
| [00:12:28] | BockBilbo: | i had to go to see the soccer match |
| [00:12:40] | BockBilbo: | sorry about that :( |
| [00:12:47] | xris: | jieryn: then it's more than appropriate that you're running it by hand. |
| [00:13:04] | xris: | and you'll just have to live with it being slow.. you only have to do it once |
| [00:13:27] | Zambezi: | xris, laga Use custom identifier for frontend preferences (Y/N) and Use Wake-On-LAN to wake database (Y/N)? |
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| [00:13:53] | xris: | Zambezi: huh? just use the defaults. |
| [00:13:53] | jieryn: | okie.. shiny |
| [00:14:24] | jieryn: | i'm having a problem now that mythfilldatabase is complete, mythbackend has been started, but mythfrontend whines about mythbackend not being up or ip addr being wrong, i don't see an option for setting this in frontend? |
| [00:14:32] | Zambezi: | xris, It's in the second and last page in the setup. Default is no and no. |
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| [00:15:16] | xris: | Zambezi: then that's what you should leave it as, unless you know what they mean and want something else. |
| [00:15:18] | BockBilbo: | xris, do you know if its possible to scan for channels with a plextor convertx??? It doesnt let me do it, so i kind of managed to scan them manually, though i still miss some... |
| [00:15:25] | xris: | jieryn: go into the settings in the frontend to configure that stuff. |
| [00:15:34] | xris: | make sure you don't have selinux enabled or something, too |
| [00:15:46] | xris: | BockBilbo: I don't know what that tuner is |
| [00:15:57] | xris: | but unless it's dvb or atsc, you can't |
| [00:16:02] | BockBilbo: | ok |
| [00:16:04] | BockBilbo: | so i cant |
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| [00:16:19] | xris: | BockBilbo: no xmltv for spain? |
| [00:16:29] | BockBilbo: | see, i managed to make it work, but the video seens to run slowly and i get no sound. |
| [00:16:40] | BockBilbo: | xris, there is an xmltv from spain, but doesnt work for me |
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| [00:17:05] | BockBilbo: | i get the tv from a cable tv provider which has its own channel settings |
| [00:17:06] | Zambezi: | xris, The setup is done, but the packages are still not completely installed. :-( |
| [00:17:20] | xris: | Zambezi: more detail |
| [00:17:32] | xris: | BockBilbo: is it dvb-c? |
| [00:17:40] | BockBilbo: | one sec |
| [00:18:00] | jieryn: | xris: i'm not running anything weird except for gentoo |
| [00:18:04] | BockBilbo: | The Plextor ConvertX PX-TV402U and PX-M402U products are external USB2.0 devices based on the WIS GO7007SB multi-format encoder ASIC |
| [00:18:13] | jieryn: | xris: i set hostname to 192.168.1.100 which i verify as my internal lan ip addr |
| [00:18:17] | Zambezi: | xris, It says that mythtv and mythtv-database aren't completly installed. |
| [00:18:23] | BockBilbo: | its not a dvb-c |
| [00:18:27] | xris: | BockBilbo: so analog cable, then |
| [00:18:35] | BockBilbo: | yeah |
| [00:18:47] | xris: | jieryn: you just have a single box, right? |
| [00:18:57] | xris: | if so, set it to 127.0.0.1 |
| [00:19:28] | BockBilbo: | this is my device: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PlextorPX_2dTV402U |
| [00:20:34] | jieryn: | xris: 127.0.0.1 same result |
| [00:20:45] | xris: | jieryn: backend is running? |
| [00:21:03] | jieryn: | xris: netstat -a | fgrep LIST doesn't show me anythingl ikely.. checking backend again |
| [00:24:44] | BockBilbo: | xris, have you ever experienced constant delay on the image? as if it was slow motion? |
| [00:25:46] | jieryn: | xris: okay, frontend is now up and seemingly can communicate with backend :) |
| [00:25:52] | jieryn: | but, now getting segfaults ;) |
| [00:26:15] | laga: | xris: xmltv doesn't provide frequency information in some (many?) countries. |
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| [00:29:03] | xris: | jieryn: ick |
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| [00:32:05] | jajaja-: | im getting access denied for user mythtv@localhost using pass : YES |
| [00:32:22] | jajaja-: | can anyone give me a hand please, id really appreciate it |
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| [00:33:22] | BockBilbo: | hello |
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| [00:33:23] | BockBilbo: | sorry |
| [00:33:24] | BockBilbo: | :S |
| [00:33:32] | BockBilbo: | mythtv broke my x session |
| [00:33:42] | BockBilbo: | weird |
| [00:33:44] | BockBilbo: | :S |
| [00:33:49] | Dagmar: | Good luck suing them for a replacement |
| [00:34:16] | Zambezi: | laga, xris: I have the messages from starting the mythtv-setup. Could you check it out? |
| [00:34:32] | jieryn: | i'm trying to record a world cup match for tomorrow, i 'record only this showing', 'save these settings' ... but in the program finder screen it still shows as 'not recording' ...? |
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| [00:35:39] | jieryn: | any ideas? |
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| [00:39:46] | jieryn: | ahh shit ... i just went into manage priorities and i see four recordings for the match |
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| [00:40:00] | jieryn: | yet, upcoming recordings does not have it listed |
| [00:43:27] | jieryn: | please save me from yet another bash script :) |
| [00:45:54] | xris: | hmm |
| [00:46:20] | xris: | I never set anything up in the frontend.... |
| [00:47:27] | jieryn: | http://sh.nu/p/2042 Watch TV > <downarrow key> |
| [00:47:30] | jieryn: | segfault |
| [00:48:45] | xris: | what version did you install? |
| [00:49:33] | jieryn: | xris: mythtv-0.19_p9163-r1 |
| [00:49:51] | xris: | odd. should be fine. |
| [00:50:08] | jieryn: | i don't have any channels listed on that Watch TV menu |
| [00:51:37] | jieryn: | yet things like the Channel Priority setter panel have all the right channels listed in their proper number scheme |
| [00:51:43] | xris: | jieryn: odd |
| [00:51:54] | xris: | maybe it's already recording something? |
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| [00:52:53] | jieryn: | how can i tell? |
| [00:53:01] | jieryn: | nothing is listed in scheduled recordings |
| [00:53:31] | jieryn: | cat /dev/video0 shows me tons of crap instead of the usual IO error if i already have the file open |
| [00:53:57] | jieryn: | and inside System Information i see Tuner 1 is not recording |
| [00:55:33] | jieryn: | i even set a manual record to happen in 15 minutes, and it is not listed under Scheduled Recordings |
| [00:56:59] | jieryn: | http://sh.nu/p/2043 <<== after Main Menu > Watch TV |
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| [01:09:21] | BockBilbo: | good night |
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| [01:18:05] | coolego1: | how do you do color correction. Is there a way to do it through MythTV, or is that a graphics driver thing? |
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| [01:34:16] | kleptophobiac: | hi |
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| [01:41:23] | Zambezi: | I cleared the window. Some named an application that help with the setup. Knop-something? What was that. My MySQL is running. Apt-get says mythtv and mythtv-database is not properly installed, but I can run the setup. I can't login to the database. How can I solve this. I have the root password to MySQL. |
| [01:41:37] | kleptophobiac: | knoppmyth? |
| [01:41:44] | kleptophobiac: | or knoppix? |
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| [01:42:47] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, I think it's the first. I think I have to installed it myself, without apt-get. |
| [01:42:59] | kleptophobiac: | knoppmyth is a bootable cd distro |
| [01:43:34] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, But that's not what I like. I would like to watch and record tv. |
| [01:44:06] | kleptophobiac: | well, i'm not really sure what your problem is considering i just stepped in |
| [01:44:13] | kleptophobiac: | you said knopp--- and i was trying to complete the sentence |
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| [01:45:34] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, It's an application that makes the installation easier. |
| [01:45:47] | kleptophobiac: | uh... well, in that case, i really don't know |
| [01:46:34] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, I should do the setup for me. |
| [01:46:46] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, I don't remember more. |
| [01:47:23] | kleptophobiac: | sorry |
| [01:47:52] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, Thanks for your try. I have to wait here. |
| [01:48:01] | kleptophobiac: | :-/ |
| [01:51:51] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, You're right about Knopmyth. |
| [01:52:03] | kleptophobiac: | ok |
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| [01:57:02] | awa64: | hey |
| [01:57:07] | awa64: | Got a question or two for you guys. |
| [01:57:15] | awa64: | About video processing under Linux. |
| [01:57:25] | awa64: | Software vs Hardware and time from input to output. |
| [01:58:05] | awa64: | I'm currently using an ATI TV Wonder PCI. Software-based. |
| [01:58:13] | kleptophobiac: | software = fast channel change |
| [01:58:16] | kleptophobiac: | hardware = low cpu usage |
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| [01:58:44] | awa64: | Used TV Time, minimal processing. The output is just a little bit delayed from the input--about half a second, maybe less. |
| [01:59:09] | dylan_: | Got a question, I have a laptop that I setup with mythtv, everything is working great, except when I want to hook it up to the tv... It works fine til I want to playback recordings.. then the screen turns kind of blueish... Now I think this is because the the lcd on the laptop is the primary display and not the tv, but when I try to make the tv the default in kde it doesn't even list it....... |
| [01:59:11] | dylan_: | ...Any ideas? |
| [01:59:13] | awa64: | Enough to throw off playing a game on an Xbox or a PS2. |
| [01:59:45] | awa64: | Would a hardware encoder be able to process it more quickly, to the point where I could play my games on my monitor through my PC? |
| [02:00:14] | Dagmar: | In no case are you going to want to do that |
| [02:00:23] | awa64: | Why not? |
| [02:00:49] | Dagmar: | Because there is always going to be a delay |
| [02:00:59] | awa64: | crap. |
| [02:01:03] | Dagmar: | ...and it will be a larger delay with a hardware-accllerated encoder card. |
| [02:01:16] | awa64: | double-crap. |
| [02:01:29] | coolego1: | you can use a TV card and a VGA monitor to play games though |
| [02:01:51] | awa64: | how? |
| [02:02:01] | Zambezi: | kleptophobiac, Do you know a tv-card with low CPU-use? Mine uses 50–90%. And that's too much. |
| [02:02:03] | awa64: | I've got a VGA flat-panel at the moment. |
| [02:02:13] | kleptophobiac: | the mpeg2 hardware cards use next to nothing |
| [02:02:15] | kleptophobiac: | 2–3% |
| [02:02:17] | awa64: | What kind do you have, Zambezi? |
| [02:02:22] | awa64: | Sounds like a software one. |
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| [02:03:19] | coolego1: | awa64: I haven't tried in in Myth, but on my Windoze box I was able to play my GameCube no problem with my ATI HDTV Wonder |
| [02:03:37] | coolego1: | I haven't gotten my MythBox to the point where it's completely stable yet |
| [02:03:47] | coolego1: | the colors are oversaturated on the live TV stuff |
| [02:04:11] | Zambezi: | awa64, Pinnacle PCTV Pro. |
| [02:04:51] | Zambezi: | I can't even install MythTV. |
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| [02:06:39] | awa64: | Zambezi, that's weird. |
| [02:06:46] | awa64: | Really weird. Pinnacle says it's hardware-based. |
| [02:07:18] | awa64: | coolego1: did you compare it at all to a non-through-computer input? |
| [02:07:43] | coolego1: | the only visible issue I could see was a little bit of interlacing |
| [02:07:54] | coolego1: | but other than that the latency was fine |
| [02:07:59] | dylan_: | Zambezi: what if you try it with tvtime? |
| [02:07:59] | Zambezi: | awa64, My recording aren't that good, but it was much better then I changed application. But now, I have Linux. |
| [02:08:05] | dylan_: | what distro are you running? |
| [02:08:10] | awa64: | I mean, I don't think I'd notice the difference while playing Mario 64, but rythm games like DDR or Guitar Hero are worse at even low latency. |
| [02:08:28] | coolego1: | I didn't compare it to a non-computer input immediately, but in general I found it to be acceptable |
| [02:08:41] | coolego1: | if you're going to be playing N64 games, use an emulator... |
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| [02:09:32] | awa64: | I meant in theory. Type of genre and all that. |
| [02:09:42] | awa64: | And I don't have a way to hook an N64 controller up to a PC. |
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| [02:10:16] | awa64: | I could've said "Ratchet and Clank," but I don't actually OWN that one. |
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| [02:11:38] | awa64: | By the way, coolego1, how fast is your processor? |
| [02:11:41] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, How's that compare too xawtv ? |
| [02:12:20] | CruzBullit: | similar |
| [02:12:27] | awa64: | I'd like to know too. TVTime's got some latency, but if XAWTV's even a little bit faster.. |
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| [02:12:57] | Dagmar: | Nothing is going to make the latency go away |
| [02:12:58] | CruzBullit: | for some reason I've always had better luck with tvtime |
| [02:13:12] | awa64: | Don't be negative, Dagmar. |
| [02:13:18] | Dagmar: | Bite me. |
| [02:13:23] | awa64: | It's a really tiny amount of latency. |
| [02:13:29] | awa64: | I MIGHT be able to get it to go away. |
| [02:13:30] | Dagmar: | Learn to live with reality. |
| [02:13:36] | awa64: | Fuck off and die. |
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| [02:13:41] | awa64: | :p |
| [02:13:41] | Dagmar: | ...instead of whining and hoping it goes away. |
| [02:13:53] | awa64: | Actually, I just thought of something that might improve things. |
| [02:14:04] | Dagmar: | Taking the PC out of the loop. |
| [02:14:24] | gaasfet: | anyone got PVR-150 to work with the S-Video and Composite? |
| [02:14:27] | nasa: | Hi, on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configur . . . Descriptions it states that romdb must be populated. Is this done by default, or do I need to run the SQL script it points to. The statement on the page is a little confusing |
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| [02:15:14] | CruzBullit: | Got a question, I have a laptop that I setup with mythtv, everything is working great, except when I want to hook it up to the tv... It works fine til I want to playback recordings.. then the screen turns kind of blueish... Now I think this is because the the lcd on the laptop is the primary display and not the tv, but when I try to make the tv the default in kde it doesn't even list it....... |
| [02:15:15] | CruzBullit: | ...Any ideas? |
| [02:15:19] | CruzBullit: | :) |
| [02:15:46] | awa64: | Dagmar, unless you can suggest a way to plug my system directly into a VGA input, please stop trying to be "helpful" by saying it wont' work, OK? |
| [02:16:01] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, Which distro do you use? |
| [02:16:17] | CruzBullit: | kubuntu |
| [02:16:47] | Dagmar: | awa64: Whatever. Your ability to whine won't change the laws of physics any time soon. |
| [02:17:10] | jajaja-: | im getting a vo: couldnt open x11 display error...can anyone help? |
| [02:17:12] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, I have Xubuntu and I can't even install it. "mythtv and mythtv-database is not completly installed". I get that all the time. |
| [02:17:34] | CruzBullit: | hmmm odd |
| [02:18:01] | CruzBullit: | is apt-get up to date? |
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| [02:18:47] | awa64: | Dagmar: How am I whining? |
| [02:19:00] | Dagmar: | You're still doing it. |
| [02:19:23] | CruzBullit: | Zambezi: |
| [02:19:24] | dev: | hi everybody! |
| [02:20:01] | CruzBullit: | do a sudo /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak |
| [02:20:16] | CruzBullit: | then over right the sources.list file with this one http://www.abarbaccia.com/mythtv/sources.list |
| [02:20:29] | CruzBullit: | then type in sudo apt-get update |
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| [02:21:27] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, But I prefer Swedish repos. |
| [02:21:54] | CruzBullit: | ah, I guess that would be a problem :) |
| [02:22:45] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, Serious? So that's why I get errormessages? You can get it. One minute. |
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| [02:23:39] | CruzBullit: | I don't know, could be the problem... The only way to really find out is to try that repo |
| [02:23:40] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, http://pastebin.com/719892 It's in Swedish, but some is in English. |
| [02:24:01] | CruzBullit: | have you removed/purge mythtv and tried reinstalling it? |
| [02:24:03] | jajaja-: | hey guys when i try to view a test .mpg from hymans guide it says cant open x11 display and failed to load avisynth |
| [02:27:30] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, More than once. |
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| [02:28:08] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, I removed everything. Not with --purge. Just apt-get remove |
| [02:28:23] | CruzBullit: | try with purge, see if that fixes anything |
| [02:28:40] | CruzBullit: | then maybe try the sources.list that I posted |
| [02:28:51] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, I tried it but it wasn't possible, |
| [02:29:13] | CruzBullit: | tried --purge? |
| [02:29:57] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, No. |
| [02:30:13] | CruzBullit: | the sources.list? |
| [02:30:53] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, Just after the uninstallation. Then it said "can't remove anything, the packages isn't installed". |
| [02:31:20] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, Not yet. I'm about to try, but the sudo /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak doesn't work. |
| [02:31:37] | CruzBullit: | how about cd /etc/apt/ |
| [02:32:15] | CruzBullit: | should be sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/sources.list.bak |
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| [02:33:24] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, That worked. I find the file with ls. |
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| [02:35:24] | coolego1: | aw64: my processor in my mythbox is an AMD 2400 (1.1GHz) and my Windoze is a 3.4GHz P4 |
| [02:35:25] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, I saw a thing. |
| [02:36:25] | Zambezi: | CruzBullit, This is in my sources.list. # Repos for MythTV |
| [02:36:25] | Zambezi: | # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse |
| [02:36:26] | Zambezi: | But deb-src isn't there. |
| [02:36:52] | Zambezi: | Sorry for the four lines. I tried to get just one. |
| [02:37:16] | C12C: | Running into an odd bug. Watch live TV works fine but shows don't want to record. According to the backend logs they start recording and then immediatly stop recording. Normally I'd google for this but I can't figure out how to word it. Little help. |
| [02:37:27] | CruzBullit: | I gotta go, I running 5.10 not sure why that would make a difference |
| [02:37:44] | C12C: | This is after an upgrade to .19 |
| [02:38:37] | ** gutano shrugs ** | |
| [02:38:46] | gutano: | mythtv backend stops recording after a few seconds? |
| [02:39:00] | gutano: | hrrm..... |
| [02:39:01] | C12C: | 5 7877 scheduler 5 0 2006-06–19 22:00:02 tycho Started recording CSI: Miami "Driven": channel 1005 on cardid 1, sourceid 1 |
| [02:39:01] | C12C: | 6 7876 scheduler 5 0 2006-06–19 22:00:02 tycho Finished recording CSI: Miami "Driven": channel 1005 |
| [02:39:24] | C12C: | Nothing shows up in the backend logs as an error message. I'm at a loss as to how to proceed. |
| [02:40:21] | gutano: | have you checked the users mailing list archives? |
| [02:40:40] | gutano: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
| [02:41:28] | dev: | i wish i could figure out why my commflag jobs are stopping at 99% all of a sudden |
| [02:41:37] | dev: | i guess i should update to latest latest svn heh |
| [02:41:49] | dev: | -fixes svn that is |
| [02:42:06] | dev: | i update to -fixes in the hopes of 1 problem being fixed, it is, then another gets introduced |
| [02:42:08] | dev: | this is never ending heh |
| [02:42:18] | dev: | i just want one revision that will work dammit heh |
| [02:42:20] | gutano: | C12C: sorry I don't have any idea's =/ |
| [02:43:45] | C12C: | 0.19 runs as a diffrent used doesn't it? Permissions perhaps? |
| [02:44:21] | gutano: | hrrm... would think that would generate an error.... |
| [02:44:44] | gutano: | did you follow an upgrade tutorial when changing? |
| [02:44:45] | C12C: | that's not it unfortunatly. Live tv now generates mpg files that I do see. |
| [02:45:28] | C12C: | Unfortunatly not. It was in a long chain of emerge calls. |
| [02:45:40] | bilbravo: | i downlaoded mythtv plugins, but when i extract it i get errors... program_guide.php does not exist |
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| [02:51:52] | jajaja-: | am i supposed to be getting these sql errors when i run "mythfilldatabase" |
| [02:52:00] | AngryElf: | could somebody tell me the default setting for the video player command...it's mplayer with a bunch of options... |
| [02:52:50] | gutano: | o.O |
| [02:53:09] | AngryElf: | jajaja-, probably not....what are they? |
| [02:55:38] | gutano: | AngryElf: not sure what you mean.... I'm pretty sure Myth draws from some of the same projects/libs as mplayer, but I don't think any of "mplayer" is actually used |
| [02:55:51] | jajaja-: | im pasting it on pastebin.com AngryElf |
| [02:56:18] | dev: | why not use the internal player for mythvideo? |
| [02:56:18] | gutano: | jajaja-: this a new install? or upgrade? or random breakage from working install? |
| [02:56:39] | jajaja-: | well i tried once and did a format and starting from scratch |
| [02:56:40] | AngryElf: | gutano, setup->video->player settings.....i thought the default was mplayer |
| [02:56:45] | C12C: | gutano: Think I found it but the suggested fix doesn't work. |
| [02:57:26] | gutano: | C12C: you mind linking hte fix you found? |
| [02:57:58] | jajaja-: | http://pastebin.ca/67493 |
| [02:57:59] | C12C: | Live TV but Recording Fails: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 2006;#202395 |
| [02:58:25] | C12C: | mind you, like I said. The fix doesn't seem to work but I'll try it again. |
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| [03:00:07] | pyrotech: | is there a way to have mythbackend depend on a network connection? I am having a problem with it stopping everytime my wireless goes down |
| [03:00:20] | pyrotech: | I mean * not depend * |
| [03:00:39] | pyrotech: | I only run the front and backend on a single machine |
| [03:00:53] | gutano: | AngryElf: hrrm... under general playback? |
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| [03:00:58] | AngryElf: | jajaja-, mysql --version ? |
| [03:01:28] | AngryElf: | gutano, no, "player settings" on the video setup page |
| [03:02:11] | gutano: | AngryElf: that's a plugin I'm pretty sure.... |
| [03:02:15] | jajaja-: | angryelf ver14.12 dsitrib 5.0.21 |
| [03:02:25] | gutano: | AngryElf: I don't have it listed (because I don't have the plugins portion installed) |
| [03:02:56] | gutano: | modules might be a better word for them because they are official, but docs/etc call them plugins |
| [03:03:41] | C12C: | gutano: It worked. |
| [03:04:09] | C12C: | Appologies to all. Like I said. I normally google but I was at a loss on how to phrase it. Sorry to bother you. |
| [03:04:11] | gutano: | C12C: good job, sincey ou fixed your problem on your own, now you can fix AngryElf's and jajaja-'s... cause your good |
| [03:04:19] | gutano: | =D |
| [03:04:46] | gutano: | C12C: that's what the channel is for man, alot of ppl don't use irc enough (and your right some use it too much, heh) |
| [03:05:11] | C12C: | I always feel guilty hitting up the irc. I figure I should be able to solve it myself. |
| [03:05:41] | kormoc: | C12C, that's why you should stick around and help others out : |
| [03:05:42] | gutano: | C12C: I'm same way, I usually only ask if I've searched for a bit |
| [03:05:59] | gutano: | but you'd be amazed how much knowledge some of the ppl on irc have, just off the top of their heads |
| [03:06:30] | ** gutano admits that he is definitely not one of those who he speaks so highly of ** | |
| [03:06:34] | jajaja-: | hah i got so much help in here last night..everyone was great..helping the newb out :) |
| [03:07:29] | C12C: | pyrotech: To the best of my knowledge mythbackend shouldn't stop when the wireless goes down. Anything in the logs? |
| [03:07:51] | k-man__: | is there any digital cameras that you can hook up to a monitor somehow, so you can see the photographs on a monitor as you take them? |
| [03:08:17] | C12C: | pyrotech: Wait. What IP is mythfrontend using? |
| [03:08:49] | kormoc: | k-man__, likely, might want to check out the camera websites |
| [03:09:43] | gutano: | jajaja-: do you have anything tying you to mysql 5? |
| [03:09:46] | C12C: | k-man__: Way back when I had too much money I remember that this site was the go to place for digicamera info: http://www.dpreview.com/ |
| [03:10:10] | jajaja-: | I am not sure |
| [03:11:09] | k-man__: | yeah, thats good |
| [03:11:26] | gutano: | jajaja-: did you need to install mysql for Myth? or was it already isntalled? (if your not sure your probably not using it for anything else) |
| [03:11:41] | jajaja-: | i installed it for myth |
| [03:11:53] | jajaja-: | i am using ubuntu by the way |
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| [03:12:29] | pyrotech: | mythfrontend references 127.0.0.1, I am not sure why it dies off when the wireless goes down |
| [03:12:39] | pyrotech: | the system logs dont have any indication of why this happens |
| [03:13:13] | gutano: | kk, I'm pretty sure your hitting a disparity between mysql 4/5... and although I can't find the listing on mythtv.org atm, I'm pretty confident they are making sure it works with the mysql-4 line |
| [03:13:44] | C12C: | pyrotech: What distro? |
| [03:13:48] | Dagmar: | Translation: People shouldn't try to use MySQL 5. |
| [03:13:49] | gutano: | pyrotech: you start it localy? (not through telnet/ssh) |
| [03:14:10] | pyrotech: | yes, myth starts on boot, I am using gentoo |
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| [03:14:56] | jajaja-: | i am getting an error saying no settings found for backendserverip |
| [03:15:12] | kormoc: | 0.19 is mysql 5 safe and happy |
| [03:15:40] | kormoc: | so as long as you're not attempting 0.18.1 or lower, mysql 5 won't be an issue |
| [03:15:41] | gutano: | does your machine change runlevels when your network is down, perhaps mythbackend isn't present in the no-network runlevel? |
| [03:15:57] | pyrotech: | good idea, that might be the culprit |
| [03:16:20] | Dagmar: | what loon makes their machine change runlevels like that? |
| [03:16:35] | pyrotech: | I never set this myself, that might have be gentoo doing that |
| [03:16:42] | Dagmar: | They shouldn't have done that |
| [03:16:52] | gutano: | Dagmar: heh, perhaps no one.... but you never find problems by not trying stuff |
| [03:16:56] | Dagmar: | Runlevel changes are caused by administrators |
| [03:16:59] | C12C: | Dagmar: The gentoo people. |
| [03:17:16] | C12C: | Dagmar: If you're not careful they'll come for you for saying things like that. |
| [03:17:26] | Dagmar: | C12C: I really don't care what idiots might think or do |
| [03:17:34] | kormoc: | Gentoo won't turn off the frontend with no-network status |
| [03:17:42] | gutano: | backend |
| [03:17:45] | Dagmar: | The machine is almost assuredly NOT changing runlevels just because the network isn't available |
| [03:17:47] | kormoc: | nor the backend |
| [03:17:51] | pyrotech: | the frontend isnt the problem, the backend craps out when the network stops |
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| [03:18:08] | kormoc: | well, stright up, gentoo won't touch that for you |
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| [03:18:46] | pyrotech: | so this isnt gentoo stopping mythbackend, whenever the wireless stops all of my network services stop, sshd, samba, etc |
| [03:18:55] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [03:18:57] | kormoc: | it shouldn't |
| [03:19:11] | kormoc: | there's a setting in your rc that will control thet, let me look it up |
| [03:19:29] | kormoc: | /etc/conf.d/rc |
| [03:19:32] | pyrotech: | could I get rid of the "depends net" or whatever that is |
| [03:19:36] | pyrotech: | in each init script? |
| [03:19:45] | kormoc: | RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING="lo" |
| [03:19:47] | kormoc: | nah |
| [03:19:49] | gutano: | rc-update -s |
| [03:19:56] | kormoc: | just make sure that line is like that |
| [03:20:00] | kormoc: | and it'll work fine |
| [03:20:32] | pyrotech: | cool, I will have to give that a try |
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| [03:23:25] | pyrotech: | thanks |
| [03:23:46] | kormoc: | Did it work? |
| [03:27:30] | pyrotech: | I had to reset the wireless |
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| [04:03:51] | jajaja-: | i give up ;( |
| [04:04:13] | kormoc: | jajaja-, what's up? |
| [04:04:50] | jajaja-: | Get sql errors running mythfilldatabase, and only static watching live tv |
| [04:05:01] | kormoc: | have a pastebin of the errors? |
| [04:05:25] | kormoc: | Didja try the live tv in mplayer/tvtime (depending on the type of tuner)? |
| [04:05:41] | jajaja-: | i tried it in mplayer and i got an error |
| [04:05:55] | jajaja-: | it would save a mpg but got errors when tried to playback |
| [04:06:13] | jajaja-: | http://pastebin.ca/67493 |
| [04:07:44] | kormoc: | what tuner type? |
| [04:07:53] | jajaja-: | pvr150 |
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| [04:08:04] | kormoc: | Yeah, you're running mysql 5 with mythtv 0.18 |
| [04:08:14] | kormoc: | you need to use myth 0.19 or downgrade mysql |
| [04:08:20] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [04:08:23] | kormoc: | jajaja-, pastebin your dmesg output? |
| [04:08:24] | Gumby: | seems to be acommon issue lately |
| [04:08:28] | Gumby: | must be running ubuntu :) |
| [04:08:41] | kormoc: | that's cause ubuntu marked mysql 5 stable but 0.19 not |
| [04:08:47] | kormoc: | yeah, it's sad |
| [04:08:50] | Gumby: | indeed |
| [04:08:52] | jajaja-: | yes i am Gumby |
| [04:09:00] | Gumby: | and people wonder why I say ubuntu is not a stable distro |
| [04:09:49] | jajaja-: | http://pastebin.ca/67521 |
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| [04:10:13] | jajaja-: | i really appreciate everyones help...ive been at this for days now |
| [04:10:18] | kormoc: | You're not using a via chipset are you? |
| [04:10:27] | jajaja-: | no kormoc |
| [04:10:47] | kormoc: | Well, it's auto-detecting your card as a pvr 250 |
| [04:11:05] | jajaja-: | but then at bottom.... pvr150 |
| [04:11:18] | kormoc: | you have two cards? |
| [04:11:24] | jajaja-: | it says corrected autodecetion to 150 in the middle there |
| [04:11:29] | jajaja-: | no just one pvr150 |
| [04:11:32] | kormoc: | ooh, I see |
| [04:11:33] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [04:11:41] | kormoc: | well, you could try forcing the tuner type |
| [04:11:46] | gutano: | jajaja-: rmmod ivtv, modprobe ivtv tuner=50 |
| [04:11:52] | kormoc: | ya, like that |
| [04:12:36] | jajaja-: | do i need to switch out of mythv user |
| [04:12:44] | kormoc: | well, use sudo |
| [04:12:44] | gutano: | on my last install all I had to load was ivtv... this round I have to load all my modules by hand before ivtv =/ haven't fought it out yet |
| [04:12:57] | gutano: | you will need to be root, or use root priviledges |
| [04:13:42] | jajaja-: | okay ran those 2 commands |
| [04:13:53] | gutano: | check dmesg again |
| [04:14:14] | jajaja-: | no errors |
| [04:14:27] | gutano: | now try playing with mplayer again |
| [04:14:30] | jajaja-: | except on bottom says type set to 50 |
| [04:14:35] | gutano: | mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [04:14:35] | kormoc: | that's fine |
| [04:15:13] | gutano: | hehe, the pastebin has so many from user "root" |
| [04:15:25] | kormoc: | heh, yeah |
| [04:15:47] | jajaja-: | says vo: couldnt open x11 display |
| [04:16:04] | kormoc: | strange |
| [04:16:07] | jajaja-: | error initializing the vo device |
| [04:16:25] | gutano: | try a different one... mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0 |
| [04:16:27] | Gumby: | jajaja-: are yo logged in via ssh or running mplayer as the user that isnt running X? |
| [04:16:47] | jajaja-: | user that isnt running x |
| [04:16:53] | jajaja-: | doing it from root |
| [04:17:02] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [04:17:06] | kormoc: | do so from the user running X |
| [04:17:12] | Gumby: | do it as... yeah/ what he said |
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| [04:17:16] | gutano: | hehe |
| [04:17:24] | matthew_w: | Hey folks, is there a repository for mythtv for ubuntu? |
| [04:17:27] | matthew_w: | ... anymore? |
| [04:17:30] | jajaja-: | okay lets try it |
| [04:17:54] | kormoc: | matthew_w, it has 0.18... |
| [04:18:27] | matthew_w: | kormoc; compiling from source lists a bunch of errors I can't hope to understand. |
| [04:18:51] | kormoc: | matthew_w, well, toss it to a pastebin (http://www.pastebin.ca is one) and link it to us, and maybe someone here can help |
| [04:19:11] | jajaja-: | it wont even run...says permission denied |
| [04:19:24] | kormoc: | jajaja-, ahh, well, that's somewhat better... |
| [04:19:32] | kormoc: | jajaja-, chmod a+r /dev/video0 |
| [04:19:32] | ** gutano nods ^^ ** | |
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| [04:19:38] | metalac: | hey guys |
| [04:19:39] | matthew_w: | Are there no .deb packages anywhere? |
| [04:19:39] | kormoc: | jajaja-, and then run the mplayer commnad |
| [04:19:49] | kormoc: | matthew_w, you can check the wiki, or google |
| [04:19:49] | Gumby: | of course, chmod as root |
| [04:19:50] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [04:19:51] | metalac: | anyone knows why my LiveTV would freeze every once in a while? |
| [04:19:56] | metalac: | mostly on channel changes |
| [04:20:03] | jajaja-: | operation not permitted kormoc |
| [04:20:04] | C12C: | define freeze |
| [04:20:11] | Gumby: | jajaja-: as root |
| [04:20:13] | gutano: | metalac: hrrm... incorrect tuner perhaps? |
| [04:20:13] | metalac: | machine doesn't freeze |
| [04:20:14] | kormoc: | jajaja-, you'll need to sudo chmod |
| [04:20:24] | kormoc: | metalac, what's the output from the backend? |
| [04:20:25] | jajaja-: | ahhh |
| [04:20:27] | metalac: | gutano: but it works fine for a while |
| [04:20:32] | AngryElf: | I've been noticing that for some reason my entire job-queue drops out of existance — restarting mythbackend fixes this temporarily....the only error I found in mythbackend.log is "mysql server has gone away" — except a commnad line test of the server checks out....any ideas? |
| [04:20:34] | metalac: | i'm using PVR150 |
| [04:20:45] | metalac: | it doesn't freeze machine just LiveTV |
| [04:20:57] | metalac: | then i have to push ESC to get out and click "Watch TV" again |
| [04:20:59] | metalac: | and it works fine |
| [04:21:03] | jajaja-: | still permission denied kormoc when i try to output mpg |
| [04:21:06] | metalac: | sometimes it works fine for 2–3 hours before it freezes |
| [04:21:07] | kormoc: | AngryElf, that's due to mysql 5's short timeout, you can check the mysql manual to up the timeout time or else downgrade mysql |
| [04:21:13] | metalac: | sometimes it freezes every 5 minutes |
| [04:21:15] | kormoc: | jajaja-, hrm? ls -l /dev/video0 |
| [04:21:39] | gutano: | jajaja-: can you "cat /dev/video0 >> movie.mpg" successfully? |
| [04:22:01] | Gumby: | gutano: it just sits there and does nothing |
| [04:22:04] | ** Gumby giggles ** | |
| [04:22:15] | jajaja-: | yes gutano now i can |
| [04:22:16] | kormoc: | heh |
| [04:22:24] | gutano: | ctrl-c it after little bit |
| [04:22:29] | gutano: | then try playing with mplayer |
| [04:22:39] | _GeM is now known as GeM | |
| [04:22:46] | AngryElf: | kormoc, would that cause my entire job queue to drop out? |
| [04:22:50] | gutano: | permissions must have some problem too still... but maybe we can stil tell if card is working |
| [04:22:53] | kormoc: | AngryElf, might |
| [04:22:55] | jajaja-: | mplayer opened! |
| [04:22:59] | gutano: | wahoo!! |
| [04:23:07] | gutano: | video? |
| [04:23:14] | metalac: | so can anyone give me at least a right direction to look at with my livetv freezes |
| [04:23:16] | jajaja-: | static |
| [04:23:23] | metalac: | logs don't help much |
| [04:23:29] | Gumby: | metalac: /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [04:23:47] | gutano: | metalac: have you checked to see if anyone else has had a similar issue on the users mailing list? |
| [04:23:49] | kormoc: | metalac, there should be an option to run the backend with greater verbrosity, -v all perhaps |
| [04:23:52] | metalac: | Gumby: nothing in there, even though i set it to debug mode, bunch of sql calls, but that's about it |
| [04:24:10] | metalac: | kormoc: i've set log to show everything |
| [04:24:17] | kormoc: | mair nuff |
| [04:24:20] | kormoc: | *fair |
| [04:24:30] | Gumby: | metalac: run top and see if you can see a process spike at the same time it skips |
| [04:24:50] | metalac: | it's kind of hard to coordinate that |
| [04:24:51] | Gumby: | hairy muff? |
| [04:24:53] | jajaja-: | only static here....error says vdecoder init failed |
| [04:24:55] | Gumby: | metalac: why? |
| [04:25:08] | metalac: | Gumby: well let me try and break it and see what's up |
| [04:25:23] | gutano: | jajaja-: ok, probably some other modules need loading, do you have errors higher up on your dmesg? like error loading wm8775 anything like that? |
| [04:25:45] | jajaja-: | no gutano, no other error messages |
| [04:26:24] | gutano: | did you say pvr150 or 250? |
| [04:26:26] | matthew_w: | I can't find a stinking repository anywhere. |
| [04:26:30] | jajaja-: | pvr150 |
| [04:26:53] | gutano: | rmmod ivtv, modprobe card=3 tuner=50 (let me check on card... one sec) |
| [04:27:10] | jajaja-: | ok thank you gutano |
| [04:27:13] | gutano: | your old pastebin shows: [4294687.472000] ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 250 card (cx23416 based |
| [04:27:32] | jajaja-: | then in middle it says correction 150 |
| [04:27:45] | ** gutano kicks himself in the shin ** | |
| [04:27:49] | jajaja-: | lol |
| [04:28:36] | gutano: | your pretty confident that your cable has connectivity? |
| [04:28:45] | gutano: | tested on tv or something |
| [04:28:47] | jajaja-: | yes gutano |
| [04:28:49] | gutano: | kk |
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| [04:29:59] | metalac: | god damn it now i can't get it to freeze for the life of me :) |
| [04:30:54] | gutano: | jajaja-: not really suggesting it at the moment, but I recall something about cold boot being needed after configuration changes... settings being held in capacitors or something |
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| [04:31:42] | jajaja-: | so reboot the system u mean? |
| [04:31:45] | metalac: | no |
| [04:31:47] | metalac: | shut it off |
| [04:31:50] | metalac: | wait like a minute |
| [04:31:53] | metalac: | then turn on again |
| [04:32:00] | metalac: | might be good to unplug the cable from the box too |
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| [04:32:41] | jajaja-: | okay |
| [04:32:51] | gutano: | jajaja-: the modprobe part you will need to redo (this will not stick past a reboot with what we have done so far) |
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| [04:33:24] | jajaja-: | ok shutting down now |
| [04:33:32] | metalac: | good luck :) |
| [04:33:37] | jajaja-: | im on 2 pcs so ill still be here |
| [04:33:49] | gutano: | this kinda a shot in the dark kinda thing |
| [04:34:03] | metalac: | YESSS i managed to freeze it |
| [04:34:03] | ** gutano counds the times he used kinda ** | |
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| [04:34:08] | metalac: | there is no CPU spike at all |
| [04:34:19] | metalac: | as a matter of fact cpu is at 0% |
| [04:35:51] | Gumby: | what kind of chipset does your mobo have? |
| [04:36:18] | metalac: | via |
| [04:36:26] | k-man__: | whats the term for a usb flash drive? is there one generaly agreed name for them? |
| [04:36:34] | Gumby: | thumbdrive? |
| [04:36:37] | k-man__: | i hear them called thumb drives sometimes |
| [04:36:39] | metalac: | k8t800pro |
| [04:36:41] | k-man__: | yeah... i hate that name |
| [04:36:44] | gutano: | pen-drive? |
| [04:36:55] | k-man__: | flash drive? |
| [04:36:56] | dev: | flash drive? heh |
| [04:37:06] | k-man__: | even "drive" doesn't sound right |
| [04:37:08] | dev: | 'whats the term for a usb flash drive?' |
| [04:37:10] | k-man__: | fash stick? |
| [04:37:12] | dev: | ding ding! :) |
| [04:37:24] | dev: | its a drive, since thats what it shows up as in every os |
| [04:37:25] | k-man__: | its not like "floppy disk" |
| [04:37:29] | k-man__: | there was just one name for them |
| [04:37:43] | gutano: | I think thumb/pen drive most common I've heard... with the occasional usb-stick |
| [04:37:55] | jajaja-: | ok, i am rebooted :) |
| [04:38:04] | dev: | everyone i know calls them flash drives |
| [04:38:16] | ** gutano shrugs ** | |
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| [04:38:25] | dev: | depends where ya are i guess :) |
| [04:38:31] | gutano: | it will probably settle down to 1 term after a few years |
| [04:38:41] | metalac: | Gumby: so is via chipset a problem? |
| [04:41:54] | gutano: | I've heard of memory problems with via chipsets... I run an asus k8v se deluxe, haven't run into any such problems yet |
| [04:42:35] | jajaja-: | i am getting the delected video_out device is imcompatible with this codec |
| [04:42:49] | metalac: | I'll try firewire pretty soon, so I will see if it's ivtv related |
| [04:43:08] | jajaja-: | when i try to play back in mplayer |
| [04:43:34] | gutano: | dmesg shows up without errors, tuner 50, pvr-150 detected? |
| [04:45:16] | jajaja-: | tuner is not set to 50 |
| [04:46:52] | gutano: | there are ways to make the tuner=50 stick, but for the sake of fixing hte problem, should probably worry about that later, and do it manually until kinks are worked out |
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| [04:48:18] | jajaja-: | in ivtv it says tuner: typer set to 4 (no tuner) by ivtv i2c driver |
| [04:48:37] | gutano: | sudo rmmod ivtv |
| [04:48:44] | gutano: | sudo modprobe ivtv tuner=50 |
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| [04:49:28] | jajaja-: | ok |
| [04:49:38] | jajaja-: | still says the same thing |
| [04:49:59] | gutano: | set to 4(no tuner) still? |
| [04:50:16] | jajaja-: | tveeprom tuner = unknown as well |
| [04:50:18] | jajaja-: | yes gutano |
| [04:50:45] | gutano: | anything about tveeprom not being loaded? anything of the likes? (other errors) |
| [04:51:04] | jajaja-: | nope gutano |
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| [04:51:10] | ** gutano cries ** | |
| [04:51:25] | gutano: | hrrrmmm |
| [04:51:38] | gutano: | what kernel version are you using? |
| [04:51:44] | ** jajaja- cries too ** | |
| [04:51:52] | jajaja-: | 2.6.15 |
| [04:52:13] | gutano: | <- 2.6.15.1 I doubt that's it |
| [04:52:31] | jajaja-: | 23–386 |
| [04:52:47] | kormoc: | doesn't ivtv require version 0.4.5+ for 2.6.15+ kernels? |
| [04:53:04] | gutano: | 0.6.* for 2.6.16 |
| [04:53:08] | jajaja-: | i thought it was 2.6.16 but im probably wrong |
| [04:53:11] | kormoc: | ahh, that's what it is |
| [04:53:12] | gutano: | 0.7.* for 2.6.17 |
| [04:53:25] | gutano: | rumored ivtv will be in kernel by 2.6.18 |
| [04:53:32] | kormoc: | that will be nice |
| [04:53:35] | gutano: | yeah |
| [04:53:40] | gutano: | very nice |
| [04:54:16] | ** jajaja- contemplates giving up and running win mce....j/k ** | |
| [04:54:22] | gutano: | ! |
| [04:54:56] | gutano: | jajaja-: I'm not too keen on ubuntu startup stuff, but you need to figure out how to autoload ivtv on startup, and pass it proper parameters |
| [04:55:21] | jajaja-: | okay i will try n fix this tomorrow |
| [04:55:32] | jajaja-: | got work in about 5 hours..booo |
| [04:55:35] | gutano: | =/ |
| [04:55:35] | jajaja-: | thanks for the help guys |
| [04:55:54] | gutano: | np, prob be around tomorrow afternoon (might be your evening)... I'm -6 GMT |
| [04:56:02] | jajaja-: | ok thanks |
| [04:56:05] | gutano: | gl |
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| [05:13:46] | matthew_w: | Hey folks, I can't figure out why mythtv won't see my video capture card, furthermore, I don't know where that card is in /dev |
| [05:14:26] | gutano: | matthew_w: mine is a pvr150 and shows up at /dev/video0 (for my coax input) |
| [05:14:44] | matthew_w: | gutano; I have a pvr150 as well, ,but /dev/video0 does not exist |
| [05:14:58] | matthew_w: | I don't have a coax plugged in yet, though |
| [05:15:04] | gutano: | have you gone through an installation tutorial or anything? |
| [05:15:09] | matthew_w: | gutano yeah |
| [05:15:16] | matthew_w: | gutano at quietglow.com |
| [05:16:28] | gutano: | hrrm... main page isn't quite what I was looking for, heh |
| [05:16:46] | matthew_w: | Sorry |
| [05:16:48] | matthew_w: | one sec... |
| [05:16:59] | matthew_w: | www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html |
| [05:17:12] | gutano: | np, just want to see what path you have been taking because tutorials vary quite a bit on this subject |
| [05:17:21] | matthew_w: | There's the direct link |
| [05:18:50] | gutano: | how far did you get on the tutorial? |
| [05:19:31] | matthew_w: | Finished it. |
| [05:20:25] | matthew_w: | But, still can't find my cap card' |
| [05:20:55] | gutano: | did you reboot after you built the drivers? |
| [05:21:11] | gutano: | or load them by hand? |
| [05:22:18] | matthew_w: | Rebooted |
| [05:22:54] | gutano: | did dmesg report the devices that it had created, or any errors? |
| [05:23:12] | matthew_w: | An error about the firmwarea |
| [05:23:26] | matthew_w: | something about putting it in the firmware hotplug directoryh |
| [05:23:41] | matthew_w: | Also, I'm getting a new kernel because I realized I was using the wrong one, FYI. |
| [05:23:57] | gutano: | ahhh |
| [05:23:59] | gutano: | what where you using? |
| [05:24:03] | matthew_w: | 386 |
| [05:24:08] | matthew_w: | realized was an athlon |
| [05:24:11] | gutano: | that shouldn't be a problem |
| [05:24:16] | matthew_w: | move to k7 |
| [05:24:25] | gutano: | well... it should be faster with a more specific kernel, but should still work |
| [05:24:49] | gutano: | what version of kernel are you using? |
| [05:25:03] | gutano: | and what version of ivtv did you install...? |
| [05:25:19] | C12C: | g'ngith all. |
| [05:25:20] | matthew_w: | 2.6.15–25 I think |
| [05:25:23] | matthew_w: | The newest for Ubuntu |
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| [05:25:35] | matthew_w: | and uh, not sure.. 0.4.5 rings a bell |
| [05:27:06] | gutano: | well first things first, gotta find that firmware, and throw it in the correct dir (not exactly sure what it is for ubuntu, didn't notice it in the tutorial) |
| [05:27:48] | matthew_w: | /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware is the directory I think |
| [05:27:57] | gutano: | sounds about right |
| [05:28:18] | gutano: | can't wait for these drivers to be built into the kernel |
| [05:28:23] | matthew_w: | No such directory |
| [05:28:32] | gutano: | you might have to create it |
| [05:28:39] | gutano: | first I'd search for it |
| [05:28:44] | gutano: | make sure it's not just somewhere different |
| [05:29:03] | matthew_w: | /lib/hotplug/firmware |
| [05:29:05] | matthew_w: | there it is |
| [05:29:35] | matthew_w: | Now I need the actual firmware.. which is... somewhere. |
| [05:29:59] | matthew_w: | ...? |
| [05:30:00] | gutano: | hehe, I think you can get it at happauge's site |
| [05:30:08] | matthew_w: | ok |
| [05:30:51] | gutano: | http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [05:31:21] | gutano: | http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/firmware/firmware.tar.gz |
| [05:32:28] | matthew_w: | So which file do I copy to the hotplug directory? |
| [05:33:27] | gutano: | v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [05:33:33] | gutano: | v4l-cx25840.fw |
| [05:33:44] | gutano: | not sure about v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw |
| [05:33:48] | gutano: | can't hurt though |
| [05:34:01] | gutano: | may need to rename them as listed on the first page |
| [05:34:49] | matthew_w: | ok, done, now what |
| [05:34:52] | gutano: | reboot |
| [05:34:59] | gutano: | check dmesg for errors |
| [05:35:02] | matthew_w: | k brb, new kernel will install too |
| [05:35:05] | gutano: | continue fighting the good fight |
| [05:35:07] | gutano: | =D |
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| [05:44:20] | matthew_w: | gutano, ok, now what? |
| [05:44:24] | gutano: | dmesg |
| [05:44:27] | matthew_w: | There's no errors in dmesg |
| [05:44:27] | gutano: | check for errors |
| [05:44:30] | Dagmar: | If you have to rename them, you may well be loading the WRONG file |
| [05:44:41] | matthew_w: | well, none related to the tv card thing |
| [05:44:51] | matthew_w: | of course, there's not only no errors, there's just nothing altogether |
| [05:44:59] | gutano: | the ivtv download page specificly says that they are named goofy in the pkg |
| [05:45:06] | gutano: | http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [05:45:12] | Dagmar: | ...and it says which files need to be renamed what |
| [05:45:21] | Dagmar: | Any deviations from that is probably a bad idea |
| [05:45:34] | gutano: | cp HcwFalcn.rom /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin, blah blah |
| [05:45:37] | Dagmar: | matthew_w: You should definitely see something when the module loads |
| [05:45:44] | gutano: | nobody mentioned further deviations |
| [05:45:49] | matthew_w: | o_O |
| [05:46:14] | matthew_w: | Well, it's there in /etc/modules |
| [05:46:14] | gutano: | I think you setup the previouse kernel to autoload matthew_w... since you changed kernels, you will need to add your autoload stuff for this kernel also |
| [05:46:30] | matthew_w: | gutano, explain, sorry, I'm a newbie. |
| [05:47:20] | gutano: | I don't run ubuntu.. so bear with me... most autoload configs for kernels are version specific... ie if I make it load nvidia everytime I start a 2.6.12 kernel, It will not necessarily load for a 2.6.13 kernel |
| [05:47:28] | Dagmar: | Mind you if you got http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/firmware/firmware.tar.gz from that page on the Wiki, you shouldn't have to rename *anything* |
| [05:47:35] | Dagmar: | ...which is why I cautioned against it |
| [05:47:54] | matthew_w: | Hrm, ,I see what you mean |
| [05:48:00] | matthew_w: | FATAL module ivtv not found... x-x |
| [05:48:03] | Dagmar: | gutano: You have the proper version of udev for that kernel, right? |
| [05:48:06] | gutano: | Dagmar: I didn't download it, I just regurgitated what I read from the ivtv page where the firmware was linked from |
| [05:48:15] | gutano: | Dagmar: my stuff works fine |
| [05:48:24] | gutano: | Dagmar: ask matthew_w |
| [05:48:30] | Dagmar: | No one needs to force-load modules anymore |
| [05:48:35] | Dagmar: | WHy you're talking about it I have no idea |
| [05:48:40] | gutano: | hehe |
| [05:49:02] | Dagmar: | PCI/AGP cards are rather exactingly identified by their vendor/product ID codes when the PCI bus is scanned by the kernel |
| [05:49:10] | gutano: | I'm not assuming that matthew_w has the correct information in his udev for a non-ubuntu built driver |
| [05:49:16] | Dagmar: | udev can be counted on to load the right modules |
| [05:49:47] | matthew_w: | LORD I'm lost. |
| [05:49:49] | Dagmar: | matthew_w: What's udevinfo -V say? |
| [05:50:07] | matthew_w: | version 079 |
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| [05:50:35] | Dagmar: | Then you should be good to go |
| [05:50:43] | Dagmar: | Which version of ivtv did you compile? |
| [05:51:39] | Dagmar: | matthew_w: Surely you know which version of ivtv you compiled |
| [05:51:48] | matthew_w: | 0.4.5 |
| [05:51:51] | ** gutano goes back to work, feel free to msg me if you need anything matthew_w ** | |
| [05:51:54] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [05:51:59] | Dagmar: | And you did this with *what* kernel? |
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| [05:52:54] | matthew_w: | I did that with the 386 |
| [05:53:00] | matthew_w: | I'm remaking the modules now with the k7 |
| [05:53:08] | matthew_w: | it will just take a second |
| [05:53:57] | Dagmar: | No, I meant what version, but I scrolled up and saw you mentioning 2.6.15–25 |
| [05:54:27] | Dagmar: | Personally I'd say go to 2.6.16 and use the 0.6.2 version but it shouldn't make much difference. Those should work together |
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| [05:55:23] | Dagmar: | The breakage has to be happening with the way you're building the module then... looking at 0.4.5 now |
| [05:55:41] | matthew_w: | Wait up |
| [05:57:34] | Dagmar: | You've checked that the ivtv module is actually being loaded? |
| [05:57:53] | matthew_w: | wtf, it says "v4l...." needs copying tot eh hotplug firmware directory, so I copy it, and it still says it |
| [05:58:11] | Dagmar: | With 079 the hotplug stuff should be obsolete by now |
| [05:58:43] | matthew_w: | ?? |
| [05:58:52] | Dagmar: | ...so it doesn't matter. Putting the files in /lib/firmware should do the trick all by itself |
| [05:59:40] | Dagmar: | If they're still hanging onto legacy hotplugd, you should check /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent for the FIRMWARE_DIR variable |
| [05:59:55] | Dagmar: | ...which is probably going to say /lib/firmware anyway |
| [06:00:07] | matthew_w: | O_O |
| [06:00:10] | matthew_w: | What the ... |
| [06:00:19] | matthew_w: | dmesg just gave me a bunch of could not read firmware errors, of course. |
| [06:00:29] | Dagmar: | okay, so that's getting somewhere then |
| [06:00:41] | matthew_w: | OH! one sec. |
| [06:00:47] | Dagmar: | Which ones did it say it couldn't find? |
| [06:00:52] | matthew_w: | all, one sec |
| [06:02:08] | matthew_w: | Ok |
| [06:02:10] | matthew_w: | Now I've just lost it |
| [06:02:16] | matthew_w: | I have no idea why it can't find the firmware |
| [06:02:39] | Dagmar: | Do a `find /etc -name firmware.agent` |
| [06:02:47] | Dagmar: | See if you get one |
| [06:03:16] | matthew_w: | It returned nothing |
| [06:03:31] | Dagmar: | Okay, so that's probably good |
| [06:03:50] | matthew_w: | ? |
| [06:03:58] | Dagmar: | Do you have an /sbin/firmware_helper binary? |
| [06:04:16] | matthew_w: | ... pardon? |
| [06:05:16] | Dagmar: | Do you have a binary on your system in the /sbin directory named 'firmware_helper' |
| [06:05:19] | Dagmar: | You shoudl. |
| [06:05:21] | Dagmar: | It's a part of udev. |
| [06:05:40] | matthew_w: | No such file or directory |
| [06:06:27] | matthew_w: | X_X |
| [06:06:41] | Dagmar: | That could explain why it won't load things. |
| [06:06:54] | matthew_w: | How do I fix it? |
| [06:06:57] | Dagmar: | I'm trying to grab 079 to make sure that it's not something the streamlined out but I don't think they did |
| [06:08:04] | matthew_w: | ? |
| [06:08:43] | Dagmar: | Interesting |
| [06:08:51] | Dagmar: | 079 may not actually have it. |
| [06:08:58] | Dagmar: | Trying to figure out what's supposed to replace it |
| [06:10:42] | matthew_w: | All I need is for it to recognize the existence of my pvr |
| [06:11:07] | Dagmar: | Well, to do that you need it to load the firmware |
| [06:13:49] | Dagmar: | Maybe they've put it elsewhere in the filesystem... Try a `whereis firmware_helper` and if that doesn't find it, go to the channel for your distro and ask them what they did with it |
| [06:15:38] | Dagmar: | Without it, as far as I know, it's not going to be able to load those firmware files |
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| [06:16:15] | Dagmar: | Just did a rebuild of 079, it *should* have firmware_helper |
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| [06:20:42] | tank-man: | 079 what? |
| [06:21:06] | Hoxzer: | Hmm |
| [06:21:17] | Hoxzer: | I need to make like one 1MB video file |
| [06:21:22] | Hoxzer: | like lenght nano second |
| [06:21:46] | Hoxzer: | and then just run it wiht xine -pfhq -V opengl |
| [06:21:56] | Hoxzer: | and my Graphical problems are solved |
| [06:21:59] | kormoc: | Hoxzer, dd will help you get a 1 mb video file |
| [06:22:20] | Hoxzer: | I dont really understand why does playing of video with Opengl help xv to work |
| [06:22:32] | Dagmar: | tank-man: What packages out of the entire lot use a three digit version with no dots? udev, of course |
| [06:22:39] | kormoc: | likely reinitializes the videocard |
| [06:22:58] | tank-man: | i wouldnt know. i dont think i'm using udev |
| [06:23:17] | Hoxzer: | kormoc: is there anyway to do it wihtout playing some file with opengl? |
| [06:23:39] | kormoc: | Hoxzer, donno, you could always try something like glxgears |
| [06:23:49] | Hoxzer: | aH |
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| [06:30:57] | matthew_w: | I HAVE to sleep |
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| [06:31:12] | matthew_w: | i will suffer through more of this not working tomrorrow |
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| [06:38:29] | ** xris just realized that he's been working on mythweb and nuvexport for almost 3 years ** | |
| [06:38:36] | xris: | actually, 3 years.... |
| [06:39:20] | xris: | and one day. damn, missed my anniversary. :) |
| [06:40:54] | tank-man: | where are the requirements for nuvexport listed? |
| [06:44:53] | xris: | tank-man: in nuvexport |
| [06:44:57] | xris: | what trouble are you having? |
| [06:46:05] | tank-man: | says ffmpeg is built without support for something |
| [06:46:17] | tank-man: | but it is |
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| [06:46:43] | tank-man: | Your ffmpeg installation doesn't support encoding to xvid. (It must be compiled with the --enable-xvid option) |
| [06:46:53] | tank-man: | but when i did |
| [06:47:04] | tank-man: | ffmpeg -version shows it is too |
| [06:47:05] | xris: | tank-man: ffmpeg -formats | grep xvid |
| [06:47:15] | xris: | (and pastebin) |
| [06:47:26] | xris: | hmm, might need to do: ffmpeg -formats 2>&1 | grep xvid |
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| [06:49:41] | tank-man: | configuration: --enable-faac --enable-x264 --enable-mp3lame --enable-gpl --enable-xvid --enable-pthreads --prefix=/home/peter --disable-debug --extra-cflags=-I/home/peter/include --extra-ldflags=-L/home/peter/lib |
| [06:49:41] | tank-man: | EV xvid |
| [06:50:56] | tank-man: | this is a modified version of ffmpeg i compiled for psp |
| [06:52:09] | xris: | tank-man: that should work |
| [06:52:15] | xris: | what version of mythtv / nuvexport |
| [06:52:58] | tank-man: | 0.19-fixes for mythtv, 0.3 0.20060604.svn for nuvexprt |
| [06:53:13] | xris: | weird |
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| [06:54:51] | tank-man: | for all output formats, they are listed as (disabled) excepts for export to nuv/sql |
| [06:54:59] | xris: | tank-man: put the whole output of `ffmpeg -formats` into a pastebin for me |
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| [06:57:45] | tank-man: | pastebin being slow ... |
| [06:58:26] | xris: | .ca |
| [06:58:30] | neftune: | use http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca |
| [06:58:46] | tank-man: | http://paste.uni.cc/9302 |
| [06:59:49] | xris: | weird |
| [07:00:22] | tank-man: | yea, weird. manually using ffmpeg works |
| [07:00:36] | xris: | so `nuvexport --ffmpeg` works |
| [07:00:40] | xris: | but just `nuvexport` doesn't? |
| [07:01:04] | tank-man: | no, just ffmpeg works, nuvexport doesnt |
| [07:01:22] | xris: | want to know why nuvexport doesn't detect your settings properly |
| [07:01:23] | xris: | it *should* |
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| [07:05:23] | tank-man: | i'm currently compiling latest svn of ffmpeg, see if that works |
| [07:09:12] | xris: | run this: http://pastebin.ca/67557 |
| [07:09:27] | xris: | just type perl, paste it, hit enter a couple of times and then control-d |
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| [07:16:03] | xris: | ping |
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| [07:24:10] | tank-man: | ok |
| [07:25:04] | xris: | ? |
| [07:25:34] | tank-man: | no output |
| [07:26:11] | xris: | from the perl script? |
| [07:26:14] | xris: | should print yes or no |
| [07:26:49] | xris: | add this before the while: print "$codecs "; |
| [07:28:11] | tank-man: | yea nothing still, is the output suppose to appear before or after i press ctrl+d |
| [07:28:21] | xris: | after |
| [07:28:28] | tank-man: | nothing |
| [07:28:29] | xris: | control-d is "end of file" which tells perl to execute that code |
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| [07:28:41] | xris: | nothing even with the "print codecs" bit? |
| [07:29:00] | tank-man: | yea, nothing |
| [07:29:27] | xris: | change that to $data instead of $codecs |
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| [07:30:29] | tank-man: | still nothing |
| [07:31:25] | xris: | kill the 2>/dev/null |
| [07:32:15] | tank-man: | how do i do that? |
| [07:32:24] | xris: | backspace? |
| [07:32:49] | xris: | my $data = `ffmpeg -formats`; |
| [07:33:01] | tank-man: | ok, i see it |
| [07:33:31] | tank-man: | yea, lots of output |
| [07:33:50] | xris: | perl -e 'my $data = `ffmpeg -formats 2>&1`; my ($codecs) = $data =~ /(?:^| s*)Codecs:s* (.+? )s* /s; print "$codecs "' |
| [07:34:25] | xris: | actually, use this: |
| [07:34:26] | xris: | perl -e 'my $data = `ffmpeg -formats 2>&1`; my ($codecs) = $data =~ /(?:^| s*)Codecs:s* (.+? )s* /s; print "$codecs "' | grep xvid |
| [07:34:30] | xris: | should get one line of output |
| [07:35:02] | tank-man: | EV xvid |
| [07:35:20] | xris: | ok, wtf. your ffmpeg is spitting the formats info to stderr instead of stdout |
| [07:35:33] | xris: | ok, you /usr/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm (or /usr/local/...) |
| [07:35:44] | tank-man: | local |
| [07:35:59] | xris: | around line 73 |
| [07:36:04] | xris: | you'll see some of that same code |
| [07:36:09] | xris: | change /dev/null to &1 |
| [07:36:14] | tank-man: | ok |
| [07:36:20] | xris: | just like in the sample I gave you above |
| [07:37:39] | xris: | and I just updated the tarball and svn with that fix, too. |
| [07:38:17] | xris: | bug me quick if that doesn't work... I'm headed to sleep. |
| [07:38:27] | Hoxzer: | ;) mythbackend crashed only 4 times while recording movie |
| [07:38:52] | Hoxzer: | some Qtsettings erros |
| [07:38:58] | tank-man: | probably will work, thanks. good night |
| [07:39:26] | Hoxzer: | btw if I do /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start as root does it still run mythbackend as mythtv |
| [07:39:29] | Hoxzer: | ? |
| [07:42:12] | xris: | Hoxzer: depends on what /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend does |
| [07:42:18] | xris: | probably not |
| [07:43:06] | Hoxzer: | yes it does ;) |
| [07:43:18] | xris: | that stuff is all distro-specific |
| [07:43:38] | xris: | why you'd want to run the backend without realtime priority is beyond me, though. |
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| [07:44:51] | tank-man: | xirs, its working, just need to install mplayer now (for mpeg based nuv files it says) |
| [07:45:05] | xris: | tank-man: yup |
| [07:45:13] | xris: | try --transcode for xvid avi exporting, though. |
| [07:45:19] | xris: | I find the output to be much nicer |
| [07:46:08] | tank-man: | thanks for the tip |
| [07:46:43] | xris: | np |
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| [08:12:40] | Hoxzer: | btw how often do they update 0.19-fixes svn? |
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| [08:22:29] | kormoc: | Hoxzer, check the timeline |
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| [08:22:43] | Hoxzer: | and where is this timeline? |
| [08:23:10] | kormoc: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/log/branches/release-0-19-fixes |
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| [08:24:08] | Hoxzer: | maaan, it was updated yesterday |
| [08:24:36] | Hoxzer: | am I right? |
| [08:24:50] | kormoc: | aye |
| [08:25:09] | Hoxzer: | :O |
| [08:25:27] | Hoxzer: | well lets see if my backend keeps crashing while recording |
| [08:29:01] | onetwo: | has anyone managed to lock onto the dvb-s bbc hd signal? |
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| [08:39:02] | Juski: | morning all |
| [08:39:02] | Dagmar: | *sigh* there is a point that I am *very* near where shell scripts just can't be kept neat anymore |
| [08:39:27] | Dagmar: | I can't watch this thing. I'm going to have a cigarette and hope I have coherent packages when I get back |
| [08:39:34] | Juski: | heh. you can have too much indentation |
| [08:39:45] | Dagmar: | Well, it's *indirection* I think I've got too much of |
| [08:39:51] | Juski: | ah |
| [08:40:11] | Dagmar: | I just made a BUNCH of changes to the Dropline build engine to support creation of "subpackages", i.e., taking one source tarball and turning it into more than one binary installable package |
| [08:40:20] | Dagmar: | Specifically for mythplugins |
| [08:40:40] | Juski: | I remember certain 'proper' programmers in the 1980s whining about how BASIC was going to ruin a lot of young minds into making unstructured mess. |
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| [08:43:51] | Dagmar: | They were right. |
| [08:43:53] | Dagmar: | It *did* |
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| [08:44:11] | Dagmar: | GOTO by itself leads to all sorts of insanity |
| [08:44:43] | Dagmar: | Line numbering caused more problems than it fixed |
| [08:44:54] | Dagmar: | <-- was there |
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| [08:53:00] | i686|laptop: | hello all, a question about myth-stream, i have it installed and am trying to add some streams to the stream.res file but they aren't appearing in the myth interface, any ideas..? |
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| [09:24:40] | onetwo: | So it seems that nova-s card is not able to lock onto 10847:V:22000:5/6 where BBC HD is supposed to be. Can anyone confirm that it is still there and so it is a hardware specific problem? |
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| [09:40:34] | onetwo: | Hauppauge tech support says "Elton is not in, call tomorrow". The nova-s apparently doesn't accept full size headers???? Something to do with PID's – perhaps that is the problem... |
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| [09:50:40] | Mortal1: | hi , i live in nz which has no tv_grab. i think i need to run mythfilldatabase to save the channels that i scanned into mythdatabase , but i cant run it successfully. help? |
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| [10:31:58] | hashbang: | Mortal1: why can't you run it? |
| [10:33:34] | Mortal1: | hashbang, because tv_grab_nz doesnt exist |
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| [10:35:44] | hashbang: | Mortal1: a) apparently xmltv includes one, no idea whether it (still) works though b) if using DVB, grab the listings using the on-air guide – you don't need mythfilldatabase to do this. |
| [10:36:25] | Dagmar: | hashbang: Actually, I don't see one in the xmltv configurator |
| [10:36:34] | Mortal1: | hashbang, ive installed xmltv , and it doesnt have one. i dont have dvb |
| [10:36:48] | hashbang: | google said there was a tv_grab_nz |
| [10:37:19] | Hoxzer: | :) TV_Grab is gööd |
| [10:37:19] | Dagmar: | It doesn't come with xmltv tho |
| [10:37:19] | Dagmar: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/110817 |
| [10:37:20] | hashbang: | but there's not one installed on my myth box, so it may be only present in older xmltvs, or maybe my xmltv packager removed it for some reason. |
| [10:37:38] | Dagmar: | It's not part of xmltv's latest release. |
| [10:37:41] | Dagmar: | I was just looking at the source |
| [10:38:06] | Mortal1: | hashbang, i see this in the myth doc |
| [10:38:09] | Mortal1: | mythfilldatabase --file is an option if there isn't an XMLTV grabber for your country, but you do have an XML formatted listings file created by some other program |
| [10:38:27] | hashbang: | e.g http://membled.com/bin/tv_grab_nz |
| [10:38:47] | Mortal1: | hashbang, but i dont even know how to get XML formatted listings form some other program |
| [10:39:15] | hashbang: | Mortal1: you need a program that grabs listings and outputs them formatted as XML |
| [10:39:21] | hashbang: | like that one (claims to) do. |
| [10:39:42] | hashbang: | I found that just by googling tv_grab_nz |
| [10:39:43] | hashbang: | BTW |
| [10:39:53] | Mortal1: | hashbang, can mythtv be used without listings? ie ditch tv_grab? |
| [10:40:08] | hashbang: | Mortal1: it'd basically just degrade to a VCR |
| [10:40:14] | hashbang: | i.e. setting recording timers |
| [10:41:59] | Mortal1: | hashbang, it seems tv_grab_nz is broken , and has been ever since it was written , for some reason tivo is not allowed in this country |
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| [10:43:09] | Mortal1: | hashbang, so i just want to use myth to watch tv , and manually record , is that possible? or do i have to get mythfilldatabase to run? |
| [10:45:05] | hashbang: | Mortal1: yeah, that should be doable |
| [10:45:21] | hashbang: | Mortal1: but you'll either have to press record whilst watching a prog you want to keep |
| [10:45:47] | hashbang: | Mortal1: or set time-based recording events (e.g. every friday from 2057hrs to 2203hrs or whatever) |
| [10:46:34] | Mortal1: | hashbang, but i cant scan for channels with no video source |
| [10:49:31] | hashbang: | Mortal1: import them or configure them manually? |
| [10:50:33] | Mortal1: | hashbang, yer i tried that , but after i do that in mythtv-setup i have to run mythfilldatabase to save it , but it exits with an xmltv error |
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| [10:51:26] | hashbang: | just skip the mythfilldatabase step |
| [10:51:37] | onetwo: | Hi Dibblah – you've got dvb-s haven't you? |
| [10:54:04] | Mortal1: | hashbang, dont i have to run mythfilldatabase to popultae the database with channel info? |
| [10:54:39] | hashbang: | Mortal1: what do you mean by 'channel info'? |
| [10:55:35] | Mortal1: | hashbang, im not exactly sure , i was quoting what mythtv-setup says after i manually enter the channels |
| [10:55:37] | hashbang: | Mortal1: mythfilldatabase just grabs listings data from various online sources and stuffs it into the program table. |
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| [11:34:40] | Mortal1: | hashbang, its going now , i did it manually.thanks |
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| [11:58:16] | Dibblah: | onetwo: Of course you can't lock onto a DVB-S2 mulitplex with a DVB-s card. |
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| [12:07:25] | Hoxzer: | do u guys have noticed any other usage for mythbox than TV-recording, live TV (digi box), xvid/dvix, dvd ? |
| [12:11:29] | Juski: | what other uses are there? |
| [12:11:39] | Juski: | mythweather – I use that quite a lot |
| [12:16:01] | coolego1: | I need help with color correction. Any ideas? |
| [12:16:11] | coolego1: | I've used the page in the wiki, but that didn't help... |
| [12:16:34] | Juski: | oh, NTSC land eh? |
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| [12:25:46] | coolego1: | yeah, I'm on NTSC |
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| [12:38:21] | hashbang: | Hoxzer: I use mythweather, mythgame + a bunch of emus, mythweb + various local "what's on" sites |
| [12:38:34] | hashbang: | Hoxzer: I'm also thinking about using it to transfer a few VHS tapes to DVD |
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| [12:42:49] | Hoxzer: | well, I dont go out so much so mythweather doesn't really matter :O |
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| [12:43:07] | Hoxzer: | and I can surf internet with regular desktop computer |
| [12:43:22] | Hoxzer: | :( not really interested about emus |
| [12:43:34] | Hoxzer: | :| so guess it is it |
| [12:43:41] | Hoxzer: | but I need to setup one button more |
| [12:43:55] | Hoxzer: | and setup rec button for rec use not for OSD menu |
| [12:45:20] | hashbang: | Hoxzer: I do my general web surfing from my laptop or main desktop |
| [12:45:41] | Hoxzer: | :) |
| [12:45:58] | hashbang: | Hoxzer: but using mythweb for 'what's on' sites is handy as it's a useful check to see if there's a gig/film/whatever on before settling down for watching hours of recorded material. |
| [12:46:05] | Hoxzer: | talking about laptops, I just installed Vector linux soho 5.1 to my 600Mhz 128 MB ram laptop |
| [12:46:06] | qu0zl: | I use mythweb to get real-time train times before i walk the two minutes to the stop |
| [12:46:06] | hashbang: | i.e. is there something better I should be doing instead. |
| [12:46:13] | qu0zl: | handy as the mythtv box is always on |
| [12:46:18] | Hoxzer: | plays DVD's well eventhough it has KDE :/ |
| [12:46:30] | Hoxzer: | but I'm thinking abotu changing KDE to xfce |
| [12:46:35] | hashbang: | qu0zl: yeah, I'd do the same too, if rail.co.uk was easily drivable/bookmarkable. |
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| [12:47:02] | qu0zl: | hashbang, i had to put a html page on my own webserver redirecting to the irish rail info |
| [12:47:16] | qu0zl: | i couldn;t bookmark that site directly. too many paramaters i guess in the url |
| [12:47:17] | hashbang: | qu0zl: that's one way of handling it, I suppose. :-) |
| [12:47:35] | hashbang: | qu0zl: cookies and session state, more like, I suspect. |
| [12:47:57] | qu0zl: | it works now :) it's handy, I can see if it's worth running :) |
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| [13:20:02] | Juski: | Merlin83b: I have a brainwave! gonna try modifying minimyth :-) |
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| [13:29:28] | Merlin83b: | Juski: Good plan! Didn't I suggest that a couple of weeks ago? ;-) |
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| [13:30:55] | Juski: | Merlin83b: you did, but I was being like a manager – waiting a while & then saying I had an idea ;-) |
| [13:32:25] | Merlin83b: | Heh, very good. |
| [13:32:30] | Merlin83b: | TPHB for you on Friday then |
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| [13:33:00] | Catbert: | PHB is too clueless |
| [13:33:14] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [13:33:17] | Catbert: | and not nearly evil enough |
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| [13:33:56] | Juski: | something I can't quite figure out about minimyth though, is how it loads all the config info |
| [13:34:27] | Merlin83b: | I've never used it. |
| [13:34:35] | Merlin83b: | I look forward to T100Myth. |
| [13:34:40] | Juski: | well, it goes a bit like this... |
| [13:34:54] | Juski: | bootloader gets stuffed down tftp |
| [13:35:07] | Juski: | bootloader loads & loads the kernel |
| [13:35:26] | Juski: | kernel boots & some magic happens involving a cramfs |
| [13:37:06] | skullY: | I'm trying to compile mythtv 0.19 with firewire support, but I'm getting this linking error: http://pastebin.ca/67678 |
| [13:37:57] | skullY: | anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong, and/or does this look like a bug I should report? |
| [13:38:05] | dev: | tried it without ccache? |
| [13:38:20] | skullY: | I haven't |
| [13:38:23] | dev: | =] |
| [13:38:52] | Merlin83b: | Juski: Is it stored in the cramfs? |
| [13:39:08] | skullY: | should I make distclean before rerunning configure? |
| [13:39:19] | Juski: | Merlin83b: the rootfs is, but the config info is stored in a text file on the server |
| [13:39:36] | dev: | skullY: its good practice yes |
| [13:39:49] | dev: | but its more before make than anything |
| [13:39:53] | Juski: | must be something to do with the kernel they use, possibly – or maybe it's the init process doing it |
| [13:40:57] | Merlin83b: | I'd guess init rather than a kernel mod |
| [13:42:10] | Juski: | need to learn the very basics of what the kernel does after it |
| [13:42:14] | Juski: | it's loaded |
| [13:42:50] | Merlin83b: | Oh, this isn't just the MythTV config? |
| [13:42:58] | Juski: | nono |
| [13:44:26] | Juski: | http://linpvr.org/dnload/releases/0.19-13/minimyth.conf |
| [13:45:03] | Merlin83b: | Oh right! |
| [13:45:30] | Juski: | mmmyerrrs |
| [13:45:40] | Merlin83b: | Perhaps you don't need it to be so complex with a T100 – it's a fixed config, after all... |
| [13:45:58] | Juski: | yeh but... |
| [13:46:08] | Juski: | I dunno what's doing all the fancy stuff or if I can bypass it yet |
| [13:46:36] | Merlin83b: | Gotta be able to somehow! |
| [13:46:56] | Juski: | I expect so |
| [13:47:36] | Juski: | maybe whatever they're doing only creates files at boot time after reading the minimyth.conf, so if I nfsroot the image (modified of course), maybe all will be well |
| [13:48:00] | Juski: | (so long as all the right files are in place, shares mounted etc) |
| [13:50:11] | Merlin83b: | :-) |
| [13:50:15] | ** Merlin83b checks eBay ** | |
| [13:51:14] | Juski: | hmm all this stuff is done with system variables – funnily enough which are initialised in minimyth.conf – but how do they end up in the running system? |
| [13:52:06] | Juski: | aha! |
| [13:52:20] | ** Juski goes away to read lots ** | |
| [13:53:17] | Merlin83b: | Good plan |
| [13:53:23] | Juski: | /diskless/s100mini/etc/rc.d/init.d/conf is the script wot reads the minimyth.conf |
| [13:53:26] | Juski: | sorted |
| [13:53:42] | Merlin83b: | Ends 9:45 this eh? Currently £35. |
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| [13:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Did you learn the wonders of grep? ;-) |
| [13:54:19] | Juski: | when my wife finds out about the 2nd one, you can buy it off me |
| [13:54:28] | Merlin83b: | lol |
| [13:54:39] | Merlin83b: | How much did you get each of them for in the end? |
| [13:56:15] | Juski: | erm... about £30 for the last one, not inc del. or bank xfer charge |
| [13:58:24] | Merlin83b: | Okay. I think I might try for the one in a few days that includes a Europe postage in it's delivery options. |
| [14:00:47] | Merlin83b: | The one today doesn't, is all in German and I'm scared by it :-) |
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| [14:11:54] | skullY: | ok, got the same error (http://pastebin.ca/67703) after disabling ccache and distcc |
| [14:12:58] | skullY: | I can't find the dv1394_init symbol in any libraries, but dc1394_init seems to exist in libdc1394_control |
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| [14:15:11] | skullY: | oh, it seems that's in libmythavformat, or is supposed to be |
| [14:15:28] | Juski: | Merlin83b: heheh |
| [14:16:42] | Zider: | yay! I finally got rid of the 44.1/48KHz problems :D |
| [14:16:56] | Zider: | I just hope it doesn't screw up dvd's now.. ;) |
| [14:26:36] | Juski: | awoooga awooga! rogue apostrophe alert |
| [14:26:50] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
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| [14:29:45] | joss: | ok just emerged mythtv added this database mc said ok...how can i add user mythtv? |
| [14:29:52] | joss: | says something weord here.. |
| [14:30:23] | joss: | QSqlQuery::exec: database not open |
| [14:30:23] | joss: | QSqlQuery::exec: database not open |
| [14:30:24] | joss: | 2006-06–20 18:20:57.291 DB Error (KickDatabase): |
| [14:31:10] | joss: | 2006-06–20 18:21:29.695 Using runtime prefix = /usr |
| [14:31:10] | joss: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [14:31:47] | Juski: | adding the mysql user called mythtv is covered by every doc I've ever seen |
| [14:32:24] | Juski: | and adding linux users called mythtv.. well that's pretty basic stuff covered in linux 101 ;-) |
| [14:33:59] | joss: | Juski: never tried mysql, saw the note of recreating password for root user..only |
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| [14:34:27] | joss: | and connected to mysql session here..helpdoesnt give something for changing mythtv or adding users |
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| [14:34:42] | Juski: | joss: find a howto |
| [14:34:54] | Juski: | all the mythtv howto guies I' |
| [14:34:58] | joss: | database was created with this mysqladmin -u root <blabla.mc |
| [14:35:04] | Juski: | *guides I've seen tell you how |
| [14:36:51] | joss: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Man . . . Installation |
| [14:36:58] | joss: | that one does not |
| [14:37:06] | joss: | actually, so please tell me yourself |
| [14:37:10] | joss: | or does it? |
| [14:37:21] | joss: | i cant see, how they do mythtv user |
| [14:37:53] | joss: | or changing access to tadabase mythconverg |
| [14:38:16] | Juski: | why aren't you following a guide for your linux distro? |
| [14:38:29] | Juski: | the wiki is noticably lacking in some areas |
| [14:38:52] | joss: | gentoo howto did not tell this one too.. |
| [14:39:02] | joss: | all it did say, create database and change root password.. |
| [14:39:16] | joss: | start backend and enjoy fiddle with settings |
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| [14:41:36] | Zider: | 0.20 is next planned release, right? |
| [14:41:47] | Merlin83b: | Yes. |
| [14:41:49] | ** Juski wonders if the mc.sql file adds the mythtv user... ** | |
| [14:41:51] | Merlin83b: | That comes after 0.19 |
| [14:41:56] | Juski: | 0.19.1 is next |
| [14:42:03] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [14:42:14] | Juski: | it's already kind of out now though |
| [14:42:36] | Juski: | some distro packages use 0.19-fixes already |
| [14:42:38] | Zider: | is there any planned release date or is it just when it's finished? |
| [14:42:47] | Juski: | as ever.. when it's READY |
| [14:42:52] | Merlin83b: | Never a planned date with myth :-) |
| [14:42:58] | Zider: | thought so ;) |
| [14:43:06] | Juski: | it's like the Grolsch :-) |
| [14:43:21] | qu0zl: | .18.1 still seems the most polished release to me |
| [14:43:22] | Zider: | growhat? |
| [14:43:26] | joss: | ok i need to use phpmyadmin then, but apache compiling is needed.. |
| [14:43:43] | joss: | cant find this mysql syntax right now |
| [14:43:46] | qu0zl: | .18.1 was pretty much perfect on my system. damn my urge to tinker |
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| [14:44:07] | Zider: | 0.19_p9163-r1 here ;) |
| [14:44:16] | Zider: | ..according to the package system at least :D |
| [14:44:21] | Merlin83b: | SVN continues to work more and mroe for me. My only issue now is LiveTV colours. |
| [14:44:44] | Juski: | Merlin83b: are recorded shows ok? |
| [14:45:06] | Merlin83b: | Yep |
| [14:45:11] | Juski: | weird! |
| [14:45:27] | Juski: | tip: maybe they don't want anyone to use livetv anymore ;-P |
| [14:45:34] | Merlin83b: | Pretty much. Hardly ever use LiveTV so not a huge issue but it does mean I have to keep my old OnDig box plugged in. |
| [14:48:07] | joss: | well will try also svn source i guess, this one 0.19 simply wont start |
| [14:48:19] | joss: | perhaps buggy qt concerning those weird errors.. |
| [14:48:26] | Juski: | which qt? |
| [14:48:33] | joss: | i wouldnt think it is a missing mythtv user |
| [14:48:40] | joss: | devel, with mysql support |
| [14:48:43] | Juski: | qt4 will not work |
| [14:48:44] | Juski: | qt4 will not work |
| [14:48:52] | Juski: | make sure you have qt3 |
| [14:49:51] | joss: | well thats a clue allready.. |
| [14:50:04] | joss: | i used devel so called svn of qt, perhaps it is 4.. |
| [14:50:16] | joss: | bacause those errors arekind a weird.. |
| [14:50:26] | joss: | driver qmysql not loaded and such |
| [14:50:39] | Juski: | mysql in your USE flags? |
| [14:50:53] | joss: | yes |
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| [14:51:26] | joss: | 2006-06–20 18:32:52.003 Using runtime prefix = /usr |
| [14:51:26] | joss: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [14:51:27] | Juski: | do an emerge -pv qt |
| [14:51:27] | joss: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| [14:51:27] | joss: | 2006-06–20 18:32:52.268 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [14:51:28] | joss: | 2006-06–20 18:32:52.268 Unable to connect to database! |
| [14:51:28] | joss: | 2006-06–20 18:32:52.268 No error type from QSqlError? Strange. |
| [14:51:52] | Juski: | afternoon stuarta |
| [14:52:02] | joss: | x11-libs/qt-4.1.3 [4.1.1] USE="cups debug gif jpeg mysql* opengl png sqlite zlib -accessibility -doc -examples -firebird -mng -nas -nis -odbc -postgres -xinerama" 31,446 kB |
| [14:52:03] | stuarta: | afternoon all, Juski |
| [14:52:29] | ** stuarta is bored waiting for rsync to restore my backup... ** | |
| [14:52:50] | joss: | Juski: yeah says 4xx |
| [14:53:10] | Juski: | joss: get rid of it & emerge qt3.x |
| [14:53:23] | joss: | damn: ok, how to change this qt to compile against, env variable was it i gueess export QTSRC="lal"? |
| [14:53:29] | stuarta: | qt4 isn't supported yet. |
| [14:53:32] | joss: | aah QTDIR was it |
| [14:53:43] | Juski: | joss: if you're using gentoo just use the ebuilds dammit |
| [14:54:06] | stuarta: | 27% :( |
| [14:54:27] | joss: | oi oi Juski: which i did of course.. |
| [14:54:47] | Juski: | joss: so why the speil about QTDIR ? |
| [14:55:03] | joss: | speil? |
| [14:55:18] | joss: | i do not know...it did not fetch qt3 as a dep.. |
| [14:55:23] | DrNickRiviera: | are ir blasters hard to setup? |
| [14:55:38] | joss: | miskateke perhaps in ebuild, i just started it, and debuged that qt is a mistake here.. |
| [14:55:40] | Juski: | joss: you might need to add qt4 to package.mask in /etc/portage |
| [14:55:50] | joss: | nevermind, i will fetch qt3 and compile it with ebuild |
| [14:56:07] | Juski: | yup |
| [14:56:14] | Juski: | that should do it |
| [14:57:11] | joss: | change the vars and reompile mythtv, it took so long, :( |
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| [14:57:48] | joss: | Juski: that devel version of kde i use, uses this version of qt here..nothing else |
| [14:58:17] | stuarta: | not surprising really, qt exists so that kde can |
| [14:59:58] | joss: | Juski: actually i was hoping to see some mouse input support for all menus, but if you say it does not yet work, then i wont recompile it...and try finiding some better vdr supporting mouse |
| [15:00:00] | Juski: | toss kde in the bin then |
| [15:01:06] | Juski: | vdr != mythtv – looked rather lame last time I looked at it |
| [15:01:42] | Juski: | anyway mythtv is designed to be used with a remote control not a mouse. who sits on their sofa with a mouse in hand? :-P |
| [15:01:54] | joss: | Juski: well vcr or that timeshiftig thingy, i do not know how they call it.. |
| [15:02:07] | joss: | watching recording for usual bttv chip card |
| [15:02:15] | Juski: | ugh vdr won't do that |
| [15:02:30] | joss: | but i love mouse, rather then keyboard, as it tends to be faster sometimes, mouse with keyboard |
| [15:02:33] | Juski: | freevo doesn't do TV recording either |
| [15:02:40] | Juski: | amazingly |
| [15:03:07] | Juski: | so for bttv chip cards, you're stuck with mythtv |
| [15:03:21] | joss: | well kdetv doesnt do that too instead it really crashes X with latest ati-drivers..restarts it.. |
| [15:03:30] | joss: | when i open the device.. |
| [15:03:37] | joss: | some overlay problems there..do not know |
| [15:04:09] | Juski: | ah well. |
| [15:04:29] | joss: | well i need something, that does smilar as mythtv and wont get tuner v4l device locked when watching and recording |
| [15:05:03] | hashbang: | Juski: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005V59Z.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg |
| [15:05:36] | onetwo: | Dibblah: when did it change all the forums said that id would start as dvb-s and then change at a later date – something to do with not being to change that set because of BBC Channel Islands and Cambridge? |
| [15:05:54] | hashbang: | Juski: myself and a colleague got those for ~17GBP each for our Myth boxes |
| [15:07:02] | hashbang: | http://www.ceratech.co.uk/cpages/clearance/clearance/rw-irb.htm |
| [15:07:09] | joss: | Juski: so how to bring that mouse pointer visible there for svn version..to click on menus? |
| [15:07:56] | joss: | Juski: kdetv wont do a recording plugin before version 1.0 it is 0.88 now... |
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| [15:10:34] | joss: | some xawtv hacks, but poor also..do not like those menus and ui |
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| [15:18:16] | Juski: | joss: try the appearance menu, for example |
| [15:18:46] | Juski: | as for xawtv/kde etc.. good luck. you won't find many people in my house who care for kde or bttv cards ;-) |
| [15:20:21] | Juski: | hashbang: cheers, but no thanks. decided I didn't need/want a livingroom keyboard a while ago. good price though |
| [15:22:06] | joss: | Juski: tomorrow is a new day to try it all out:) |
| [15:22:22] | joss: | qt and mythtv-svn compiling takes some time here..:( |
| [15:23:37] | hashbang: | Juski: I mainly use mine when doing work on the console, but sometimes also for entering search terms and the like |
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| [15:30:50] | scales: | i havent really changed my recording prefs, and when i record a 2 hour show, it takes up 10 gigs. how can i shrink that? |
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| [15:36:53] | andres: | Does anybody know a reason for blue faces while live tv playback via dvb-t. Playing in mplayer doesnt have those. Adjusting via F/xvattr doesnt help. |
| [15:37:33] | Anduin: | scales: adjust your recording profile(s) |
| [15:39:33] | scales: | yeah, what do i adjust it to? |
| [15:39:46] | Anduin: | scales: less |
| [15:39:49] | scales: | ha |
| [15:39:54] | scales: | like lower or medium? |
| [15:39:56] | ** stuarta starts bootstrapping amd64 while doing an rsync restore... ** | |
| [15:40:01] | scales: | is that the option you are talking about? |
| [15:40:25] | qu0zl: | is there not a bitrate option? |
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| [15:40:58] | Anduin: | scales: You can actually adjust the profiles directly to make them what you want, usually playing with the live tv one and then move those to what you'd consider high, low, etc works. |
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| [15:41:58] | scales: | k i need to just navigate through the menus |
| [15:42:52] | Anduin: | scales: Settings | TV Settings | Recording Profiles |
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| [15:43:12] | qu0zl: | if you haven't been through every menu it's worth doing it |
| [15:43:17] | qu0zl: | never know what you'll find :) |
| [15:43:52] | Anduin: | Some punk kid will just rearrange them. |
| [15:43:59] | qu0zl: | heh |
| [15:44:40] | scales: | i have, just that i cant remember which was which, i messed a little with it last night |
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| [16:19:44] | Juski: | always good to play with the menus to find where stuff lives |
| [16:20:23] | Juski: | last time I did I found new features I didn't know about.. like max number of episodes to keep |
| [16:22:24] | stuarta: | 79% sync'd :( |
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| [16:25:01] | Merlin83b: | Is someone doing a multiuser thing as a SoC project? |
| [16:25:07] | stuarta: | yes |
| [16:25:11] | Merlin83b: | Cool |
| [16:25:36] | Juski: | there are 2 users of mythtv in my house. me & me :-P |
| [16:25:42] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [16:25:46] | stuarta: | there's a list on the website somewhere about the Soc projects. all interesting |
| [16:26:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, I've read it before but thought it'd be quicker to ask here than go finding that. |
| [16:26:10] | stuarta: | Juski: there's 3 in my house. Me, Myself & I |
| [16:27:08] | stuarta: | big eit branch merge went in last night. that's a good thing |
| [16:27:30] | Merlin83b: | I'm happy to say MythTV has a very good GAF at my place. |
| [16:28:06] | Aid`: | GAF? |
| [16:28:59] | Merlin83b: | Girlfriend Acceptance Factor. |
| [16:29:18] | Merlin83b: | Very important for a box that's going to sit in the living room. |
| [16:29:26] | Aid`: | heh e |
| [16:29:44] | Merlin83b: | And having seen the Humax stuff (my dad has one) Myth is easier to use. |
| [16:29:45] | stuarta: | even more so for WAF (for those with W) |
| [16:29:46] | Merlin83b: | (imo) |
| [16:29:59] | Merlin83b: | Indeed, stuarta :-) |
| [16:30:22] | Merlin83b: | G will likely graduate to W one day. Been together for nearly 5 years. |
| [16:31:04] | Juski: | eesh |
| [16:31:24] | Merlin83b: | Lived together for 2. |
| [16:31:30] | stuarta: | know exactly what you mean, though only 14mth for me |
| [16:31:36] | Juski: | on 4th july it'll mark the start of our 9th year as a couple |
| [16:31:41] | Juski: | scary |
| [16:31:52] | Merlin83b: | Easy date to remember! |
| [16:32:26] | stuarta: | 85% come on rsync.... |
| [16:32:32] | Juski: | we still count the 1st date as an anniversary :-) |
| [16:32:53] | Merlin83b: | Awww |
| [16:33:48] | stuarta: | we had to pick a date that was when we started going out properly... |
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| [16:35:28] | Merlin83b: | Always have to pick a date unless you celebrate them all like Juski :-) |
| [16:36:09] | stuarta: | we've got 3 :) |
| [16:37:43] | Juski: | can't remember the anniversary of the moving in day though |
| [16:39:31] | Juski: | btw Merlin83b had a good scout through the minimyth files & I _think_ it should be quite straightforward to port it |
| [16:40:25] | Juski: | they use a standard method for loading all the guff, and I can chuck a lot of that away since the hardware is only one thing without any variants |
| [16:41:19] | Merlin83b: | Indeed. |
| [16:41:44] | Merlin83b: | I look forward to it. Your deadline, shoudl you choose to accept it, is whenever I get a T100. |
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| [16:42:03] | Juski: | T100? I thought it was an s100.. anyway nm |
| [16:42:14] | Aid`: | i have 56k |
| [16:42:23] | stuarta: | he wants the terminator model |
| [16:42:26] | Merlin83b: | Oh, that too :-) |
| [16:42:41] | Merlin83b: | I'd call it a typo if the keys were at all close together. |
| [16:42:44] | Juski: | worst comes to worst I can always just tar up what I've got.. it might crunch down to 500MB or so |
| [16:42:48] | Merlin83b: | It was a brain typo. |
| [16:42:51] | Merlin83b: | T-blah S100 |
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| [16:49:02] | Juski: | still haven't got the scart rgb to work yet – dunno if it's my telly to blame or not |
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| [16:49:41] | Merlin83b: | Oh, how are you seeing stuff? |
| [16:49:43] | Merlin83b: | VGA header? |
| [16:50:05] | Juski: | vga header & composite output |
| [16:50:20] | Juski: | I think some driver mangling might be necessary |
| [16:50:28] | Merlin83b: | Damn, I was really wanting the SCART funnery out of this. |
| [16:51:00] | Juski: | like I said it might be my tv to blame |
| [16:51:28] | Merlin83b: | Any reason you suspect that? |
| [16:52:26] | Juski: | yeh.. it's old as the hills & I've not has cause to use AV1 for ages |
| [16:52:36] | Juski: | s/has/had |
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| [16:52:40] | Merlin83b: | Heh, you should stick a VCR or something in to check it. |
| [16:52:46] | Merlin83b: | Anyway, I'm off home. Seeya. |
| [16:52:53] | Juski: | seeyerr |
| [16:53:21] | stuarta: | later |
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| [17:11:24] | matthew_w: | Okay, so I'm still trying to figure out why myth won't detect myh PVR |
| [17:11:37] | matthew_w: | Also I get the error "could not connect to backend server" |
| [17:12:25] | kleptophobiac: | gha. i just broke video playback |
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| [17:13:26] | Cyberai: | hey all |
| [17:13:51] | matthew_w: | Furthermore, for some reason I can't get mythtv-setup to realize i even have the pvr card, /dev/video0 doesn't exist – what's going wrong here? |
| [17:14:07] | kleptophobiac: | matthew_w – if /dev/video* or /dev/v4l/video* don't exist |
| [17:14:12] | kleptophobiac: | then your driver isn't properly loaded |
| [17:14:16] | stuarta: | matthew_w: you need to sort out the drivers first |
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| [17:15:18] | matthew_w: | stuarta; can you explain a little more? I'm a bit of a newbie |
| [17:15:33] | Cyberai: | can anyone help me get my mysql straight? When I try to fire up mysql or mythbackend I get "error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES" |
| [17:15:48] | stuarta: | matthew_w: first the card must work under linux, then it'll work under myth |
| [17:15:49] | Cyberai: | im on ubuntu |
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| [17:16:18] | stuarta: | matthew_w: so you need to go through you dmesg output and verify that the drivers are loading & detecting your card |
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| [17:16:47] | matthew_w: | Aha! mythtv-setup autodetected it, so I guess it's installed, I hope |
| [17:17:01] | stuarta: | Cyberai: you've deleted the administrative password used for mysql maintainence. |
| [17:17:02] | matthew_w: | It detected it at /dev/video0, and now I'm running mythfilldatabase |
| [17:17:25] | kleptophobiac: | anybody know how to figure out why xine is hanging with no stdout, stderr, or log entries? |
| [17:17:26] | stuarta: | matthew_w: there's about 4 steps missing in that setup procedure. |
| [17:17:34] | Cyberai: | ah, so stuarta, how do I get it back in? |
| [17:17:43] | matthew_w: | Stuarta; well, last night i reinstalled the drivers |
| [17:17:54] | matthew_w: | then copied a bunch of files to /lib/firmware |
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| [17:19:24] | stuarta: | matthew_w: and did dmesg indicate it had detected the card fine? |
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| [17:19:59] | matthew_w: | There were some firmware errors in it, oddly |
| [17:20:21] | stuarta: | you'll need to sort out the firmware errors then. |
| [17:20:43] | Juski: | ach well... my work here is done for now... laters y'all |
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| [17:21:24] | matthew_w: | stuarta; now the problem is, when I hit "watch tv" it just fails |
| [17:22:03] | stuarta: | well if you have problems loading the firmware then you effectively don't have a card. |
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| [17:22:16] | matthew_w: | Oh! |
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| [17:22:26] | matthew_w: | I don't have the cable plugged into it yet |
| [17:22:41] | matthew_w: | the error was "could not verify channel '3' ", please verify this exists |
| [17:22:50] | ** stuarta wonders how tv can be received without input... ** | |
| [17:22:52] | matthew_w: | I don't have the cable plugged in, good reason it can't find channel 3. |
| [17:22:54] | Cyberai: | stuarta, how do I get my administrative password back into mysql? |
| [17:23:13] | matthew_w: | stuarta, I'm setting it up in one room, then moving it to the other. |
| [17:23:23] | stuarta: | Cyberai: fastest way is to backup your db's and force reinstall it. |
| [17:23:23] | matthew_w: | Also, how hard is it to get the remote that came with my pvr working? |
| [17:23:46] | stuarta: | matthew_w: remotes are never easy. |
| [17:24:03] | Cyberai: | stuarta – crud. Took me a LOT of troubel to get my database set up. Any way to do it without that? |
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| [17:24:32] | kormoc: | Cyberai, google knows! |
| [17:24:37] | gutano: | Cyberai: you are trying to reset your admin password for the database? |
| [17:24:40] | matthew_w: | stuarta; what process would I have to go through? |
| [17:24:49] | Cyberai: | yes gutano |
| [17:25:12] | Cyberai: | gutano, any shortcuts you know on how to do that? |
| [17:25:16] | kleptophobiac: | switching hardware is a pain in the ass. I switched out my nforce2 system for an nforce 6150 with athlon 64 3500+... and now I have all sorts of problems |
| [17:25:20] | gutano: | iirc there is a simple command line utility for that... |
| [17:25:21] | kormoc: | Cyberai, first hit for "reset mysql admin password", http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resett . . . issions.html |
| [17:25:21] | matthew_w: | Furthermore; what does "you don't have any channels defined in the database" mean |
| [17:25:23] | ** gutano quickly googles ** | |
| [17:25:36] | Cyberai: | thanks kormoc |
| [17:26:05] | gutano: | ^^ +1 |
| [17:26:19] | kormoc: | your welcome |
| [17:26:25] | Cyberai: | is the administrator password the same as the root password? |
| [17:26:32] | matthew_w: | Alright, how's this, I'll get the hardware all set up so that I'm recieving TV and all, and I'll come back and we'll talk more about it. lol |
| [17:26:34] | matthew_w: | Thanks, ,brb |
| [17:26:36] | kormoc: | Cyberai, aye |
| [17:26:39] | matthew_w: | (well, bbl really) |
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| [17:27:11] | Cyberai: | well, I set that to "mythtv" according to the howto I was following, should I not have done that? |
| [17:27:28] | bluey-: | mhh anyone knows if it is possible to get ac3 passthrough and analog output to work simultaneous ? I don't want so use my Amp always for watching TV or DVD's. |
| [17:27:42] | kormoc: | Cyberai, usually mythtv creates it's own user called mythtv, but doesn't change the root user's password or name |
| [17:27:51] | kormoc: | Cyberai, more then one user can use mysql at a time |
| [17:28:11] | Cyberai: | kormoc, right, i understand about mysql allowing multiple users |
| [17:29:22] | Cyberai: | kormoc, im just a serious amature about databases. I just need to get the mysql/mythbackend to fire up and my mythbox is done. |
| [17:29:40] | kormoc: | what is the problem then? |
| [17:29:46] | kormoc: | cause I think you're likely going about it the wrong way |
| [17:29:48] | Cyberai: | so would it be best to set the password to nothign? |
| [17:29:52] | kormoc: | no... |
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| [17:32:26] | gutano: | Cyberai: are you setting up the database by hand? because if you know the "root" database users password, you can simply run a script to create all the myth stuff |
| [17:32:46] | gutano: | also worth noting, you need the root database users password to do a manual setup too |
| [17:33:35] | Cyberai: | gutano, I actually already have all the myth stuff set up. I even got mythfill database to run last night. But I had to reboot today in order to get firware working and now I cant do mythfilldatabase or even get the mysql/mythbackend to start. |
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| [17:34:09] | gutano: | any errors? |
| [17:34:28] | Cyberai: | gutano, I have the root users password |
| [17:34:32] | kormoc: | Cyberai, mysql/mythbackend to start? |
| [17:34:40] | Cyberai: | exactly kormoc |
| [17:34:47] | gutano: | any errors? |
| [17:35:04] | kormoc: | Cyberai, they're two entirely different things? with mysql not starting, you sould check the mysql error logs, in /var/logs/ and see what it says |
| [17:35:22] | gutano: | yeah, database before backend |
| [17:35:33] | Cyberai: | forgive the paste here folks |
| [17:35:37] | Cyberai: | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| [17:35:37] | Cyberai: | error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' |
| [17:35:39] | kormoc: | use pastebin.ca |
| [17:35:45] | Cyberai: | oops, sorry |
| [17:35:50] | kormoc: | well, that's fine |
| [17:35:53] | Cyberai: | but that's what I get |
| [17:35:57] | kormoc: | but if it's more then a line or two, pastebin |
| [17:36:16] | kormoc: | well, that seems to say that you changed the password for debian-sys-maint |
| [17:36:29] | stuarta: | which the debian docs say not to do |
| [17:36:44] | gutano: | maybe you used user root, instead of debian-sys-maint last night? |
| [17:36:48] | kleptophobiac: | what video players do you guys use for mythvideo? |
| [17:36:57] | kormoc: | kleptophobiac, internal |
| [17:36:59] | Cyberai: | right, so I tried "GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON mysql TO debian-sys-maint@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv' WITH GRANT OPTION;" and it gives me a syntax error |
| [17:37:24] | kormoc: | no! |
| [17:37:26] | kleptophobiac: | kormoc – any particular reason? |
| [17:37:29] | kormoc: | don't change that password... |
| [17:37:34] | Cyberai: | ok |
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| [17:37:46] | Cyberai: | so how do I fix it? |
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| [17:37:57] | kormoc: | kleptophobiac, it uses the same keybindings as mythtv, and the same settings, so my remote works very well, and no need to deal with external video players |
| [17:38:05] | kormoc: | Cyberai, set it back to what it used to be |
| [17:38:22] | Cyberai: | kormoc, I never got it to change |
| [17:38:30] | kormoc: | Cyberai, you should set the mythtv user's password to mythtv, mythtv should only ever have access to database mythconverg, and nothing else... |
| [17:38:30] | Cyberai: | it errored out |
| [17:38:40] | kormoc: | Cyberai, yes, you did change it sometime, as that's what the error is saying |
| [17:38:42] | Cyberai: | kormoc, I have that set up ok |
| [17:39:05] | kormoc: | so why did you try to change that user's password? |
| [17:39:36] | kleptophobiac: | kormoc – can it handle subtitles and 5.1 audio? |
| [17:39:42] | Cyberai: | well that's the thing, I don't remember ever changing anything for debian-sys-maint |
| [17:39:55] | Cyberai: | I would remember that |
| [17:39:56] | kormoc: | kleptophobiac, donno |
| [17:40:10] | kormoc: | Cyberai, so why are you trying to then? |
| [17:40:16] | gutano: | Cyberai: did you set myth up to login to the database as debian-sys-maint? |
| [17:40:31] | Cyberai: | gutano, no I did not |
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| [17:40:49] | kormoc: | so please enlighten us with why you even attempted to change that password to mythtv? |
| [17:41:15] | Cyberai: | kormoc, I think we have a basic misunderstanding here... |
| [17:41:28] | Cyberai: | Here is what I did... |
| [17:41:50] | Cyberai: | sudo apt-get install mysql-server |
| [17:41:59] | Cyberai: | mysql -u root mysql |
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| [17:42:32] | Cyberai: | then I set the root user password for the mysql database in mysql |
| [17:42:39] | Cyberai: | I installed mythtv |
| [17:42:53] | Cyberai: | then I set the mythtv user password in mysql |
| [17:43:06] | Cyberai: | I ran mythtv-setup |
| [17:43:16] | Cyberai: | ran mythfilldatabase |
| [17:43:58] | gutano: | Cyberai: generaly you would do something like 'mysql -u root -p < mythsqlfilewhosnameiforgot.sql' |
| [17:43:59] | Cyberai: | then I had to fix a mistake I made in installing the ivtv firmware |
| [17:44:13] | Cyberai: | this needed a reboot |
| [17:44:39] | Cyberai: | after reboot, mysql and mythtvbackend would not start and are complaining about the debain maint user issue. |
| [17:45:05] | kormoc: | okay |
| [17:45:08] | kormoc: | here's what to do |
| [17:45:16] | Cyberai: | gutano – on ubuntu there is a package called mythtv-database that does this, It installs when you install mythtv. |
| [17:45:17] | kormoc: | edit /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| [17:45:27] | gutano: | Cyberai: ahhh, kk |
| [17:45:28] | kormoc: | there's the debian-sys-maint user's password in there |
| [17:45:50] | kormoc: | you can change the password for that user via that first link I gave you |
| [17:45:55] | kormoc: | and then update that file and it should start up fine |
| [17:46:18] | Cyberai: | kormoc, do I change it in the debian.cnf, or in the database? |
| [17:46:38] | kormoc: | well, might as well jsut change it in the database |
| [17:47:24] | Cyberai: | ok |
| [17:47:50] | kormoc: | follow the directons on that site, only use 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' for the user, and replace the 'MyNewPassword' with the password in that file |
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| [17:52:13] | Cyberai: | kormoc, "UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('20awjLAk12ZwdMqA')WHERE User='debian-sys-maint'@'localhost';" ? |
| [17:52:47] | kormoc: | "UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('20awjLAk12ZwdMqA')WHERE User='debian-sys-maint'; |
| [17:52:54] | kormoc: | minue the first " |
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| [17:53:31] | Cyberai: | Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| [17:53:31] | Cyberai: | Rows matched: 0 Changed: 0 Warnings: 0 ? |
| [17:53:42] | gutano: | flush priviledges; |
| [17:53:52] | kormoc: | SELECT DISTINCT User FROM mysql.user; |
| [17:54:06] | kormoc: | should show all the users on your system. it's possable you deleted debian-sys-maint somehow |
| [17:54:17] | Cyberai: | yeah, it's not there at all |
| [17:54:25] | Cyberai: | guess I need to put it back |
| [17:54:30] | Cyberai: | grr |
| [17:54:31] | kormoc: | you might as well remove mysql and reinstall to be honest |
| [17:54:34] | kormoc: | it'll be simplier |
| [17:54:41] | Cyberai: | trust me, not true |
| [17:54:49] | kormoc: | why's that? |
| [17:55:00] | Cyberai: | on ubuntu dapper, it wants to install mysql 5, whoch wont work with mythfilldatabase |
| [17:55:12] | Cyberai: | it takes some serious work to get mysql 4.1 in |
| [17:55:15] | kormoc: | it does with myth 0.19 |
| [17:55:28] | Cyberai: | yes, but the ubuntu myth is still on .18 |
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| [17:55:48] | Cyberai: | I went round and round with this over the weekend |
| [17:56:39] | Cyberai: | so I'd rather re-add the user to be honest |
| [17:56:54] | kormoc: | go for it then, but you'll need to figure out what that user had perms on and all |
| [17:57:46] | Cyberai: | ugh god |
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| [17:58:04] | Hoxzer_: | Today was a good day |
| [17:58:22] | Hoxzer_: | Cuberai: can't u get older .deb from somewhere+ |
| [17:58:23] | Hoxzer_: | ? |
| [17:58:34] | Hoxzer_: | have u checked ubuntupackages? |
| [17:59:03] | Cyberai: | I might be able to get away with a reinstall using synaptic |
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| [18:25:21] | andres: | anybody has an idea what to do against inverted color with dvb-t. It works via xine or gmplayer without problems. Setting hue etc vie "F" doesnt help. |
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| [18:26:30] | speedsix: | howdy all |
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| [18:38:26] | andres: | interestingly the miniature of the recording doesnt have the color inversion. Only the full screen one. |
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| [18:40:33] | andres: | when playing the recorded file with another player they also dont have inverted colors. |
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| [18:48:20] | carsten__: | How do i apply a patch(9905) from svn to my own (modified) source?? |
| [18:49:15] | carsten__: | I'm running 0.19-fixes with a patch, that we can't speak of here. |
| [18:49:40] | kormoc: | so download the diff and use the patch command, google can help you though it |
| [18:49:51] | Anduin: | carsten__: apply the patch, hope that you are lucky, if not, fix any conflicts. |
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| [18:56:06] | kleptophobiac: | anybody using an nvidia 6150 system? |
| [18:59:57] | jjazz: | Another dumb question: the hauppauge pvr 150 says it's cable-ready for 125 channels. I have 250 cable channels (most of them worthless), including some that go into the 1000's. Does that mean I'm limited to the first 125 channels? If not, what does it mean? Thanks. |
| [19:00:21] | kleptophobiac: | your cable system must have a digital component to get those high numbered channels |
| [19:00:27] | kleptophobiac: | the pvr-150 will only pick up the analog channels through 125 |
| [19:01:12] | jjazz: | kleptophobiac: Ah. Is there a different card I can use to get those higher channels? |
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| [19:02:49] | grndslm: | how many digital boxes have a usb/firewire connection that supports linux? |
| [19:02:55] | grndslm: | any? |
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| [19:15:15] | bradd: | anyone happen to have a working modeline for a philips 55PP9401? |
| [19:16:33] | kleptophobiac: | jjazz – not really |
| [19:16:46] | kleptophobiac: | jjazz – you'll have to use a stb and an IR blaster or firewire/usb2 connection |
| [19:17:18] | kleptophobiac: | so nobody using snd-hda-intel? |
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| [19:19:16] | jjazz: | bradd: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:LgHskfZF . . . lnk&cd=1 |
| [19:19:46] | jjazz: | kleptophobiac: Ok. Thanks. |
| [19:20:14] | bradd: | yea |
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| [19:20:23] | bradd: | ive used that guys modeline and it doesnt work under linux |
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| [19:33:25] | Juski: | hey hey |
| [19:37:28] | kleptophobiac: | hi |
| [19:37:36] | kleptophobiac: | Juski – what kind of sound card are you using? |
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| [19:38:06] | Juski: | onboard |
| [19:38:11] | kleptophobiac: | what chipset? |
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| [19:38:41] | Juski: | via something or other on my epia |
| [19:38:45] | kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [19:38:45] | kleptophobiac: | damn |
| [19:38:52] | kleptophobiac: | i was hoping for some help with snd-hda-intel |
| [19:39:20] | Juski: | been dealing with intel audio recently – but I just made the kernel with it & away it went |
| [19:39:34] | kleptophobiac: | ok, mine *sortof* works |
| [19:39:49] | kleptophobiac: | i think the problem is with the asound.conf |
| [19:39:53] | kleptophobiac: | i'm using the analog outputs |
| [19:40:11] | kleptophobiac: | and I want to use the dmix plugin to allow multiple apps to send audio |
| [19:40:17] | Juski: | ah |
| [19:40:17] | kleptophobiac: | ie, mythtv and xine at the same time |
| [19:40:23] | Juski: | there it gets complicated |
| [19:40:28] | kleptophobiac: | well |
| [19:40:29] | kleptophobiac: | without it |
| [19:40:31] | kleptophobiac: | mythtv works |
| [19:40:38] | kleptophobiac: | but i can't use an external video player |
| [19:40:42] | Juski: | sucky |
| [19:40:45] | kleptophobiac: | with mythvideo |
| [19:40:46] | kleptophobiac: | yeah |
| [19:40:52] | kleptophobiac: | so i used the config from the wiki |
| [19:40:58] | kleptophobiac: | on the digital sound howto page |
| [19:41:03] | Juski: | you lost me at 'dmix' |
| [19:41:03] | kleptophobiac: | and just stripped out the digital stuff i don't care about |
| [19:41:06] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [19:41:11] | kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [19:41:12] | kleptophobiac: | alright |
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| [19:42:06] | kleptophobiac: | sigh... I'm so close |
| [19:42:18] | kleptophobiac: | my edited file allows multiple streams, but just screws up the control mixer |
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| [19:49:22] | speedsix: | kleptophobiac, my asound was taken from here http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /039304.html |
| [19:49:30] | speedsix: | right at the end of that page |
| [19:56:56] | kleptophobiac: | k |
| [19:56:57] | kleptophobiac: | thanks |
| [19:57:08] | kleptophobiac: | what chipset are you using? |
| [19:58:59] | _GeM is now known as GeM | |
| [20:01:25] | speedsix: | nforce2 |
| [20:01:34] | kleptophobiac: | :-/ |
| [20:01:40] | kleptophobiac: | i'm using an nforce 430 |
| [20:01:51] | kleptophobiac: | 430/6150, whatever it is |
| [20:03:47] | grndslm: | anybody know of a digital cable box that supports linux over usb/firewire? |
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| [20:04:02] | kormoc: | grndslm, there's a motorola one that is talked about on the wiki |
| [20:04:20] | Juski: | dammit.. only 3 takedowns short of my target :-/ |
| [20:07:22] | kleptophobiac: | alright... so without any asound.conf my sound card doesn't show a "Master" mixer entry in alsamixer |
| [20:07:33] | kleptophobiac: | but master volume control seems to work from the PCM mixer |
| [20:07:34] | kleptophobiac: | so that's good |
| [20:07:49] | kleptophobiac: | but, i need to be able to have multiple input sources (mythtv and xine/mplayer/vlc) |
| [20:08:00] | kleptophobiac: | so i use an asound.conf to make a mixed sound card |
| [20:08:11] | kleptophobiac: | but then i mysteriously get a Master mixer |
| [20:08:14] | kormoc: | you shouldn't |
| [20:08:24] | kleptophobiac: | and neither it nor PCM controls master volume |
| [20:08:25] | kormoc: | you shoudl use ~/.asoundrc to make your mixed sound cards |
| [20:08:33] | kleptophobiac: | they're logically identical, no? |
| [20:08:36] | Juski: | erm... I didn't have to do any of that crap when I got mythtv working, I'm sure of it |
| [20:08:37] | kormoc: | sorta |
| [20:08:44] | bradd: | i believe the scientific atlanta 3250HD does grndslm |
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| [20:09:02] | bradd: | dont personally have one |
| [20:09:05] | bradd: | though |
| [20:09:06] | kormoc: | asound.conf tends to describe the sound cards physically in the system, you could sppend onto the end, sure, but you really shouldn't remove things from it |
| [20:09:18] | kleptophobiac: | there is no asound.conf by default |
| [20:09:23] | kleptophobiac: | according to the alsa docs |
| [20:09:31] | kleptophobiac: | asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc are the same |
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| [20:09:39] | kleptophobiac: | except that asound.conf is valid for all users |
| [20:09:49] | kleptophobiac: | while ~/.asoundrc is only valid for the current user |
| [20:09:53] | kormoc: | ooh, my mistake |
| [20:10:14] | kleptophobiac: | so i'm just trying to understand a little better why I'm automagically getting a "Master" mixer when using an asound.conf |
| [20:10:19] | kleptophobiac: | the alsa docs kindof suck |
| [20:10:47] | kleptophobiac: | and Juski – you didn't have to do any of this, but do you have a functional hardware mixer? |
| [20:10:47] | kormoc: | of course, you could try #alsa and see if they can help |
| [20:10:57] | kleptophobiac: | there's never anybody there |
| [20:11:06] | kormoc: | there's round 40 people there now |
| [20:11:06] | kleptophobiac: | all idle all the time |
| [20:11:12] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [20:11:16] | kleptophobiac: | oh well |
| [20:11:56] | kleptophobiac: | the only time i've ever gotten help on #alsa was last year. the response was, "put in an SB Live. those are supported better." |
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| [20:13:19] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: I've never noticed any issues with external programs not outputting audio if that's what you mean |
| [20:13:35] | kleptophobiac: | then i'll bet your card has a functional hardware mixer |
| [20:14:09] | Juski: | the all-singing all-dancing HD audio chip from Intel doesn't – is that what you're saying. I thought it'd have to do be AC97 compliant at least |
| [20:14:22] | kleptophobiac: | it's not that it doesn't have a hardware mixer |
| [20:14:29] | kleptophobiac: | it's that nobody on the alsa project has figured out how to use it |
| [20:14:35] | Juski: | just that the driver is new.. aha |
| [20:14:46] | kleptophobiac: | pff, the nforce2 driver from four years ago doesn't have it still |
| [20:15:02] | Juski: | ouch |
| [20:15:04] | kleptophobiac: | and nv only puts out OSS drivers |
| [20:15:13] | Juski: | mega-ouch |
| [20:15:16] | kleptophobiac: | :p |
| [20:15:18] | kormoc: | it won't really get one eather, as the generic intel 810 audio still doesn't have a hardware mixer support |
| [20:15:32] | Juski: | OSS has been deprecated as long as I've been using linux |
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| [20:19:56] | kleptophobiac: | so uh, yeah |
| [20:20:04] | kleptophobiac: | i might have to hijack an SB live from another computer |
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| [20:23:29] | Juski: | so they DO have a use, then ;-) |
| [20:23:41] | kleptophobiac: | perhaps |
| [20:24:18] | Juski: | just not the turbo-power-super-blastoid-mega-bling cards SB do.. which end up with wasted features in linux boxen |
| [20:24:29] | kleptophobiac: | nope |
| [20:24:36] | kleptophobiac: | this is a basic SB Live! 5.1 |
| [20:24:39] | Juski: | wooo! my ubuntu dhcp server worketh |
| [20:24:43] | kleptophobiac: | yay |
| [20:24:48] | kleptophobiac: | going to try to do pxe boot? |
| [20:25:07] | Juski: | not pxe, no |
| [20:25:13] | kleptophobiac: | shucks |
| [20:25:15] | kleptophobiac: | pxe is badass |
| [20:25:22] | Juski: | but I already do that on my _real_ frontend |
| [20:25:27] | kleptophobiac: | oh, good |
| [20:25:28] | kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [20:25:33] | Juski: | this box doesn't have PXE booting |
| [20:25:38] | kleptophobiac: | :( |
| [20:25:47] | ** stuarta loves pxe booting.... ** | |
| [20:25:57] | Juski: | well it DOES but it's the kind that asks you to press a key for it :-/ |
| [20:26:12] | kormoc: | Juski, can't set it by default? |
| [20:26:16] | Juski: | so I've got a bootloader that mounts an nfs root |
| [20:26:19] | stuarta: | no setting to boot from network in the bios? |
| [20:26:24] | Juski: | nope |
| [20:26:31] | kormoc: | bios updates? :P |
| [20:26:37] | Juski: | the bios in this thing is crazy |
| [20:26:49] | Juski: | if you plug say a USB key in it changes the boot device order |
| [20:26:56] | kleptophobiac: | that's bad |
| [20:27:08] | stuarta: | big POS I'd say... |
| [20:27:10] | Juski: | or not so bad, depending on how you look at it |
| [20:27:19] | Beirdo: | CompactFlash drive in a PCMCIA slot to boot a netboot? |
| [20:27:28] | Juski: | disk on module :-) |
| [20:27:28] | kormoc: | sorta nifty to be able to boot off of a usb device without screwing with the order |
| [20:27:35] | Beirdo: | that works too |
| [20:27:53] | Juski: | only problem is this thing can't find its rootfs now |
| [20:27:57] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [20:28:22] | kleptophobiac: | i like mobos that have a boot button, like f12 or something that just lets you pick a one-boot first device |
| [20:28:54] | Juski: | s'okay.. I debuggerred it already |
| [20:29:08] | Beirdo: | ala sledgehammer? |
| [20:29:15] | Juski: | /etc/exports had the IP I'd planned to change the box to, but I'd not changed the dhcpd.conf file |
| [20:29:21] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [20:29:24] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:29:36] | Beirdo: | I just export to 192.168.0.0/16 |
| [20:31:24] | Juski: | worky worky now |
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| [20:34:24] | Juski: | can you have more than one dhcp server on a subnet? |
| [20:34:32] | gutano: | not a good idea |
| [20:34:37] | Juski: | didn't think so |
| [20:34:48] | gutano: | you could set them to only respond to certain macs though |
| [20:34:57] | Juski: | plan! |
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| [20:35:52] | gutano: | anyone have a recomendation for method of de-interlacing? |
| [20:36:24] | Juski: | bob works well for me |
| [20:36:31] | Juski: | (with xvmc enabled)... |
| [20:36:41] | Juski: | kernel de-int works well without xvmc |
| [20:37:02] | gutano: | I don't think my xvmc has ever worked =/ never seem to have time to fight those little things =( |
| [20:37:26] | gutano: | VideoOutputXv: XvMCTex: Init failed |
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| [20:37:47] | matthew_w: | Hey folks, now I have it so that the card is detected by dmesg, with no errors, and it's all hooked up, but now it says "failed to load card" |
| [20:37:52] | matthew_w: | or "failed to start card" rather |
| [20:38:42] | Juski: | gutano: xvmc_uses textures in xorg.conf? |
| [20:38:44] | matthew_w: | Any guesses? |
| [20:38:54] | Juski: | matthew_w: what card? |
| [20:39:07] | matthew_w: | pvr150 |
| [20:39:09] | gutano: | Juski: no that an option in device section? |
| [20:39:32] | matthew_w: | Rather it' |
| [20:39:38] | matthew_w: | 's "failed to open the card" |
| [20:39:41] | matthew_w: | when I scan for junk |
| [20:40:01] | gutano: | have you tried to re-setup the card in mythtv-setup since you got hte card working right? |
| [20:40:26] | Juski: | gutano: I think so yeah |
| [20:40:46] | gutano: | Juski: will quick google, and give it a try, thanks =D |
| [20:41:20] | Juski: | right so that's my s100 booting from the demo server now. can't have much left to do now |
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| [20:43:54] | Juski: | more road rage! (I deserve it I think) |
| [20:44:00] | matthew_w: | Yeah, so like i said, it says "failed to open card' |
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| [20:50:43] | b8zs: | does my mythtv front end machine need to have the same version of mythv and gd as my backend? |
| [20:52:36] | kormoc: | aye |
| [20:54:04] | b8zs: | damn |
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| [20:55:48] | matthew_w: | Help! I have this PVR totally and completely installed, and it totally and completely does not do anything |
| [20:55:56] | matthew_w: | I think it's some error in how I've configured mythtv |
| [20:56:01] | matthew_w: | but it's literally doing nothing |
| [20:56:30] | kormoc: | does it work in mplayer/tvtime? |
| [20:56:55] | matthew_w: | kormoc; how would I check? |
| [20:57:17] | kormoc: | by running mplayer /dev/video0 if it's a ivtv card, or run tvtime if it's a bttv card |
| [20:59:39] | matthew_w: | ok, I have to get mplayer |
| [20:59:40] | matthew_w: | give me a minute |
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| [21:02:16] | wylie: | Hi all; I have been using mythtv for years, but always with PC -> DVI -> HDTV or on a PC monitor. I was finally going to drop a front-end in my master bedroom. The television has SVIDEO input and RCA. Any recommendations? |
| [21:02:40] | kormoc: | nvidia card, 6200+ would be great, 5200+ would be good |
| [21:04:37] | Mattwj2005: | the pcHDTV-5500 should pick up digital cable channels (non-HDTV ones) if they are unencryped? |
| [21:05:22] | Mattwj2005: | that is what is consider SDTV right? |
| [21:06:46] | wylie: | kormoc; your answer is to me or someone else? if to me, I would assume this refers to using SVideo/Out on the 6200 or 5200+? |
| [21:06:56] | Mattwj2005: | the card supports QAM64 and QAM256 |
| [21:08:16] | wylie: | Mattwj2005; it will pick up QAM256 or QAM64 encoded channels (so long as not encrypted). They can be HDTV, SDTV or whatever. So to be clear, you can use a digital tuner to receive free digital cable channels that are encoded, but not encrypted. |
| [21:09:49] | wylie: | Mattwj2005; though I cannot speak on the pcHDTV-5500... I've used the 2000, 3000 ... and I currently use PVR250's, Air2PC and Firewire for SA3250 HD |
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| [21:10:17] | Mattwj2005: | that would be great....I hope to get the card fairly soon....I all ready pick up the basic digitals channels with my cable box....but hopefully this card will allow me to record them easily |
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| [21:10:54] | Mattwj2005: | wylie: does the pcHDTV 2000 or 3000 have hardware encoding for analog channels? |
| [21:12:17] | Juski: | nope |
| [21:12:57] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [21:13:07] | kleptophobiac2: | there's a slight OSD problem that's bugging me |
| [21:13:13] | kleptophobiac2: | when exiting a recording |
| [21:13:13] | Mattwj2005: | thanks Juski....I am guess neither does the 5500 |
| [21:13:30] | kleptophobiac2: | the highlighted menu item, for save position, just exit, etc |
| [21:13:39] | kleptophobiac2: | stretches all the way to the right of the screen |
| [21:13:54] | kleptophobiac2: | and in any aspect other than "off" oversteps and highlights two menu items at once |
| [21:17:25] | Mattwj2005: | well I am going to order my pcHDTV now...maybe it will even be here by the end of the weekend |
| [21:17:26] | Mattwj2005: | :) |
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| [21:19:21] | kormoc: | wylie, aye, that was to you |
| [21:19:50] | kormoc: | wylie, and yeah, tv out on a 5200+/6200+ is quite nice |
| [21:20:10] | kleptophobiac2: | http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7609/osderror3bx.jpg |
| [21:20:14] | kleptophobiac2: | that's what i'm talking about |
| [21:21:18] | grndslm: | does anybody know why i'd get a -16 error with ivtv initialization?? |
| [21:21:53] | grndslm: | the first tuner on my pvr-500 works, but the second one doesn't....no matter what version of ivtv i use |
| [21:22:30] | grndslm: | i think it might be a motherboard issue, seeing as how it worked in a crappy box with a celeron, but not this athlon-based board |
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| [21:23:40] | Mattwj2005: | well I did it....I just placed an order for a pcHDTV-5500 :-D |
| [21:26:32] | Mattwj2005: | now once I get..I'll have the fun of configuring it :P |
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| [21:37:14] | matthew_w: | kormoc, yes, it works in mplaye |
| [21:37:17] | matthew_w: | although the colors are ba |
| [21:37:20] | matthew_w: | bad* |
| [21:37:26] | matthew_w: | But that's just mplayer |
| [21:37:52] | matthew_w: | But anyway, mythtv "fails to open" the card |
| [21:37:55] | matthew_w: | What can I do to fix this? |
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| [21:38:08] | Juski: | what kind of capture card did you set up in mythtv-setup? |
| [21:38:10] | matthew_w: | Because the card clearly works |
| [21:38:16] | matthew_w: | Juski; mpeg2-encoder |
| [21:38:21] | Juski: | okees |
| [21:38:25] | matthew_w: | and it auto detected it on /dev/video0 with tuner |
| [21:38:31] | Juski: | cool |
| [21:38:37] | kormoc: | what user is mythbackend running as? |
| [21:38:43] | matthew_w: | sudo |
| [21:38:46] | matthew_w: | so root |
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| [21:40:13] | kormoc: | ls -l /dev/video0 |
| [21:40:55] | matthew_w: | root |
| [21:41:21] | Mattwj2005: | I just thought of an interesting new MythTV feature.....there should be an option to lock out HDTV content (and maybe SDTV content) on individual frontends. This would prevent over loading slow frontends |
| [21:42:39] | matthew_w: | kormoc, so since it's owned by root.... now what? |
| [21:42:52] | kormoc: | matthew_w, what's the permissions? |
| [21:43:28] | matthew_w: | crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 |
| [21:43:42] | kormoc: | you sure mythbackend is not switching users? |
| [21:44:16] | matthew_w: | I don't know what you mean |
| [21:44:17] | matthew_w: | sorry... |
| [21:44:39] | kormoc: | the startup script could be running a su mythtv or similar, so the backend might be running as user mythtv |
| [21:44:50] | matthew_w: | I'll look |
| [21:45:44] | matthew_w: | ... I don't know how to check |
| [21:45:46] | matthew_w: | lol |
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| [21:46:59] | matthew_w: | How would I check if that is happening? |
| [21:47:15] | matthew_w: | Also, a big problem besides the frontend is that in mythtv-setup it says failed to open card |
| [21:47:58] | kormoc: | ps -eo "%u %c" | grep mythbackend |
| [21:48:46] | matthew_w: | returns nothing |
| [21:48:52] | kormoc: | is the backend running? |
| [21:49:08] | matthew_w: | oops, no |
| [21:49:15] | matthew_w: | When it is, it returns "mythbackend" |
| [21:49:21] | matthew_w: | root |
| [21:49:40] | kormoc: | okay, so then it is running as root, that means it's not a permissions issue |
| [21:49:53] | matthew_w: | Yea |
| [21:49:53] | kormoc: | so then, might want to check the backend log file, see if it has any extra clues |
| [21:50:07] | matthew_w: | But, the card also doesn't work in the setup program |
| [21:50:12] | matthew_w: | it says failed to open card etc. |
| [21:50:18] | kormoc: | anything more? |
| [21:50:35] | matthew_w: | Nope, just on the screen 'failed to open card' |
| [21:51:29] | matthew_w: | Ishould I be ruunning mythtv-setup as root? |
| [21:51:51] | xris: | matthew_w: doesn't really matter |
| [21:52:54] | matthew_w: | Then when I go into this program it says "failed to open the card" when I try to edit stuff |
| [21:53:07] | matthew_w: | "input connections" |
| [21:53:51] | matthew_w: | with this being the only error in the terminal |
| [21:53:52] | matthew_w: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [21:53:52] | matthew_w: | mythtv: No such file or directory |
| [21:53:52] | matthew_w: | lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages |
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| [21:54:04] | matthew_w: | But I think that has something to do with the remote, which I will fix later |
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| [21:54:26] | r10: | hi |
| [21:55:05] | matthew_w: | kormoc; any ideas? |
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| [21:55:51] | kormoc: | not really, would seem like myth can't open the device, but you can, which is just strange |
| [21:56:11] | matthew_w: | ? |
| [21:56:20] | r10: | what is the tick to have two movies (differnce parts of the movie) with the same name, and the get the right on to play when I start the movie ? |
| [21:56:25] | matthew_w: | No explanation whatsoever? :S |
| [21:56:59] | kormoc: | the explanation is you can open the device, and myth can't. There's really nothing beyond that till you figure out why that is |
| [21:57:18] | stuarta: | r10: record it just as one complete part including the crap they put in the middle? |
| [21:57:32] | Mattwj2005: | matthew_w....what type of card do you have? |
| [21:57:40] | matthew_w: | It works absolutely fine in Mplayer |
| [21:57:45] | matthew_w: | a little lagged, but again, mplayer |
| [21:57:49] | matthew_w: | pvr150 |
| [21:58:01] | Mattwj2005: | okay |
| [21:58:44] | Mattwj2005: | hey anyone know how the summer of code project is going? |
| [21:58:51] | matthew_w: | So here's the question, why does it work perfectly in mplayer, and NOT AT ALL X_X in myth |
| [21:58:52] | r10: | stuarta: it was not me who did record the movie, and now I have a movie in two parts :( |
| [21:59:32] | stuarta: | ahh, think if you play with the filters you can find both parts... |
| [21:59:50] | kormoc: | matthew_w, cause myth can't open the device, as it says in the error message... |
| [22:00:01] | matthew_w: | kormoc; yeah, I was wondering why. lol |
| [22:01:02] | matthew_w: | kormoc; the tutorial I did told me to run mythtv-setup as a user called mythtv |
| [22:01:32] | kormoc: | matthew_w, try this |
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| [22:01:36] | r10: | stuarta: I can play the parts with out problems, but I have given the difference parts the same name in mythtv to have it only show up in the "browser" on's |
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| [22:01:38] | kormoc: | chmod a+r /dev/video0 |
| [22:01:42] | kormoc: | and then run mythtv-setup |
| [22:02:21] | matthew_w: | failed to open the card |
| [22:02:39] | stuarta: | hmmm, load of 18 is abit silly on this box |
| [22:03:54] | matthew_w: | It returns some errors when I ruun mythbackend |
| [22:04:11] | matthew_w: | 2006-06–20 19:03:36.367 ChannelBase(1) Error: |
| [22:04:11] | matthew_w: | Could not get inputs for the capturecard. |
| [22:04:11] | matthew_w: | Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video |
| [22:04:11] | matthew_w: | sources to your card's inputs? |
| [22:04:27] | kormoc: | did you bind video sources to your card's inputs? |
| [22:04:46] | matthew_w: | How would I do that? |
| [22:04:48] | matthew_w: | (lol) |
| [22:04:49] | kormoc: | ... |
| [22:04:53] | kormoc: | in mythtv-setup |
| [22:05:13] | kormoc: | you should really read the documentation on the myth website. it walks you though this all, and it's there for a reason |
| [22:06:04] | matthew_w: | I read it, I must have just missed this part, seriously :( |
| [22:06:38] | kormoc: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.1 |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | under Video Sources and Input Connections |
| [22:07:18] | matthew_w: | ok, but one more thing, it only finds some of the channels I have, not all |
| [22:07:22] | matthew_w: | Less than half |
| [22:07:34] | kormoc: | did you setup your zap2it account correctly? |
| [22:07:37] | matthew_w: | Yep |
| [22:07:40] | kormoc: | and did you run mythfilldatabase? |
| [22:07:45] | kormoc: | and did it complete correctly? |
| [22:07:53] | matthew_w: | didn't before I started this, but I did run it, and it did work |
| [22:07:56] | stuarta: | matthew_w: 0.19? |
| [22:08:05] | matthew_w: | eh> |
| [22:08:06] | matthew_w: | >? |
| [22:08:17] | matthew_w: | Just did another mythfilldatabase justincase |
| [22:08:21] | stuarta: | running version 0.19? |
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| [22:09:20] | stuarta: | no matter, not finding all the channels is a known problem in 0.19 |
| [22:09:35] | stuarta: | it just takes a few attempts |
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| [22:13:45] | matthew_w: | When I ran mythtv and hit "watchtv" after that, everything crashed, specifically my monitor |
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| [22:15:48] | matthew_w: | Any idea why that might have happened/ |
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| [22:15:57] | matthew_w: | Or an idea where I could look up the backend log |
| [22:15:58] | matthew_w: | ? |
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| [22:17:08] | Juski: | /var/log/mythtv ? |
| [22:17:13] | matthew_w: | lemme lok |
| [22:17:14] | matthew_w: | look |
| [22:17:32] | Juski: | when you first start out its sometimes not a bad idea to run mythbackend in a terminal session |
| [22:18:17] | Juski: | lets you see problems as soon as they happen |
| [22:19:17] | matthew_w: | I'm running everything in terminal |
| [22:19:26] | Juski: | even mythbackend? |
| [22:19:30] | matthew_w: | however, the problem lays in the fact that when I hit "watch tv" both my monitor and my TV die |
| [22:19:30] | matthew_w: | Yes |
| [22:19:42] | Juski: | ati graphics? |
| [22:19:49] | matthew_w: | nvidia |
| [22:19:56] | Juski: | drivers installed? |
| [22:20:02] | matthew_w: | as far as I knpw |
| [22:20:08] | matthew_w: | I installed them, ,I'll double chck |
| [22:20:13] | matthew_w: | I hate this kb. |
| [22:20:15] | matthew_w: | lol |
| [22:20:20] | Juski: | try scheduling a recording.. leave livetv alone for now |
| [22:20:30] | matthew_w: | o_O |
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| [22:20:33] | Juski: | make it for a couple of minutes or so, then try to play it back |
| [22:20:40] | matthew_w: | but livetv works fine in mplayer /dev/video0 |
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| [22:21:23] | matthew_w: | o_O |
| [22:21:24] | matthew_w: | I'll try. |
| [22:21:26] | Juski: | yes, but what you need to find out is if the playback in mythtv is causing problems |
| [22:21:50] | Juski: | which incidentally live tv _is_... it's all recorded |
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| [22:22:52] | matthew_w: | ok, it's currently recording friends |
| [22:22:58] | matthew_w: | whee |
| [22:22:58] | matthew_w: | lol |
| [22:24:10] | Juski: | when it's done recording go into 'watch recordings' |
| [22:24:17] | matthew_w: | Ahh, I was using the free driver "nv" instead of the real one, nvidia |
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| [22:24:21] | matthew_w: | How do I stop it's recording? |
| [22:24:38] | matthew_w: | Like, so I don't have to wait until friends is over in half an hour |
| [22:24:39] | matthew_w: | lol |
| [22:24:46] | Juski: | ah ok... just go into watch recordings then |
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| [22:25:37] | Juski: | even using the nv driver should be ok I think |
| [22:26:21] | kormoc: | nv should work fine |
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| [22:30:13] | matthew_w: | same thing happened... monitor and tv crashed |
| [22:31:03] | matthew_w: | Any idea why? |
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| [22:32:54] | Juski: | nope. not without seeing any log output |
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| [22:33:27] | matthew_w: | I don't really think there is any... there were no errors in the mythbackend.log |
| [22:34:15] | matthew_w: | Oh, yes there is |
| [22:34:20] | Juski: | you normally have to be going some to crash X |
| [22:34:20] | matthew_w: | Juski, may I pm you this? |
| [22:34:38] | Juski: | pasetbin it |
| [22:34:51] | matthew_w: | ok, .. which paste place is that again? |
| [22:35:04] | matthew_w: | The channel I'm normally in uses something like.. oh I dunno |
| [22:35:05] | Juski: | pastebin.ca / pastebin.com? |
| [22:35:08] | matthew_w: | Yea |
| [22:35:13] | matthew_w: | ok 1 sec |
| [22:35:14] | robthebob: | does picture in picture work in svn trunk? |
| [22:35:48] | matthew_w: | http://pastebin.ca/68039 |
| [22:37:45] | matthew_w: | Any clues |
| [22:38:05] | Juski: | that's not why X is crashing |
| [22:38:18] | matthew_w: | Ok... ... Then you've lost me |
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| [22:38:38] | matthew_w: | Now I don't even know where to look for clues |
| [22:38:57] | Juski: | I don't think mythfrontend is directly at fault here |
| [22:39:24] | Juski: | seen mythfrontend crash plenty times for one reason or other, but never had it crash X before |
| [22:39:50] | ** stuarta has, but that's a kernel bug :) ** | |
| [22:40:00] | matthew_w: | Juski, ok... so where/what should I check out? |
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| [22:40:36] | kayelem: | I've just had it die on me occasionally but never take X with it. |
| [22:40:36] | Juski: | matthew_w: no idea. checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log might be an idea |
| [22:41:05] | ** Juski wraps sticky tape around a newly fixed keyboard cable ** | |
| [22:41:19] | matthew_w: | Already looked, nothing really glaring |
| [22:41:44] | ** kayelem has just had some odd recording schedule fun ** | |
| [22:41:53] | Juski: | are you running mythfrontend as root? |
| [22:41:57] | matthew_w: | yes |
| [22:42:07] | Juski: | try _not_ running as root for a bit |
| [22:42:40] | Juski: | at least then you might be able to see why it's failing – i.e. it might not take X down with it |
| [22:45:18] | kayelem: | Hmm... I think it might be possible to launch the frontend from a terminal on another machine, but still directed to display ont he box it's running at. I think I've done that before but that might've been another app; it was a while ago. |
| [22:45:33] | kayelem: | but doing that you might catch an error message when it dies. |
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| [22:46:46] | kayelem: | I think either mythtv needs to get a bit cleverer concerning which tuner it uses; or i now need *three* tuners... |
| [22:47:07] | stuarta: | what did it do? |
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| [22:47:25] | matthew_w: | kormoc; ok it crashed again |
| [22:47:29] | matthew_w: | even as root |
| [22:47:33] | matthew_w: | I mean |
| [22:47:35] | matthew_w: | even not as root |
| [22:48:20] | kayelem: | I have two identical DVB-T cards; it'd picked up 4 consecutive programmes I'd told it to watch for, all on the same channel. but managed to schedule them to use encoder 1, 2, 2, 1 in that order – conflict on the third show... |
| [22:48:21] | Juski: | what distro is this? just so I know what not to use? ;-) |
| [22:48:30] | matthew_w: | ubuntu. |
| [22:48:34] | matthew_w: | There is NOTHING in the log file. |
| [22:48:34] | kayelem: | I resolved it by deleting the recordings then rescheduling them. |
| [22:48:49] | Juski: | matthew_w: breezy or dapper? |
| [22:48:52] | matthew_w: | dapper |
| [22:48:57] | Juski: | repos from? |
| [22:49:11] | matthew_w: | the debian ones |
| [22:49:21] | Juski: | thehunter.ws ? |
| [22:49:24] | matthew_w: | nerim |
| [22:49:25] | matthew_w: | and uh |
| [22:49:27] | matthew_w: | marillat |
| [22:49:29] | matthew_w: | and uh, others. |
| [22:49:33] | matthew_w: | thehunter.ws is deaed |
| [22:49:34] | matthew_w: | dead( |
| [22:49:38] | Juski: | again? |
| [22:49:41] | Juski: | blech |
| [22:49:57] | Juski: | that could be the issue.. wrong packages possibly |
| [22:50:02] | matthew_w: | anway the point is, I doubt this has anything to do with either of those things considering mythv crashes with /dev/video0 when mplayer does not |
| [22:50:30] | Juski: | mythfrontend is taking X down with it, which most definitely should not happen |
| [22:50:51] | Juski: | whatever is wrong sounds pretty serious to me |
| [22:51:17] | kayelem: | graphics card driver issue? |
| [22:51:41] | kormoc: | matthew_w, you don't have xvmc enabled, do you? |
| [22:51:42] | Juski: | X is normally pretty solid if you can get it working at all in my experience |
| [22:51:54] | kayelem: | mplayer and mythfrontend could be using different acellerators in the driver; if one's buggy... |
| [22:51:56] | matthew_w: | LMAO! |
| [22:51:58] | matthew_w: | I figured it out |
| [22:52:04] | kormoc: | can you install the nvidia drivers and see if it's that? |
| [22:52:05] | kormoc: | ooh? |
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| [22:52:07] | matthew_w: | this is an example of "sometimes a rose is just a stupid kid" |
| [22:52:08] | Juski: | oh yeh.. THAT'S when I've seen mythfrontend take X down... |
| [22:52:22] | matthew_w: | I bound the video input to composite instead of tuuner |
| [22:52:31] | ** kormoc raises an eyebro ** | |
| [22:52:31] | kormoc: | w |
| [22:52:33] | Juski: | jesus how could I have forgotten so soon? spent ages trying to fix xvmc |
| [22:52:34] | matthew_w: | so effectively, it was trying to display /dev/null on screen |
| [22:52:44] | kormoc: | that still shouldn't kill X or myth |
| [22:52:45] | Juski: | not quite |
| [22:52:53] | kormoc: | you should just get static/nothing |
| [22:52:53] | Juski: | you'd have got a blank screen at worst |
| [22:54:08] | Juski: | matthew_w: go back into mythfrontend, select 'utils/setup' then go into settings > tv > playback & check which decoder method is selected |
| [22:54:32] | kayelem: | is there a reason I don't understand, why it assigns an encoder (tuner card) to a recording when the recording is sheduled, rather than just picking one that's available "on the fly" when the sceduled recording comes up? |
| [22:54:49] | Juski: | kayelem: tuner priorities IIRC |
| [22:55:00] | kayelem: | Juski, both set the same... |
| [22:55:13] | kormoc: | kayelem, so you can say, tuner 0 and 1 are good quality, so use them first, then use tuner 2 only if there's a conflict. |
| [22:55:34] | kayelem: | still didn't work too well whatever it's doing... |
| [22:55:43] | kormoc: | it does reshedule on the fly in the event of live-tv I believe |
| [22:55:45] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [22:55:47] | matthew_w: | Ok, now it works — kind of |
| [22:55:49] | kormoc: | what's your issue? |
| [22:55:54] | matthew_w: | The video is utter crap, on screen, on tv |
| [22:55:55] | kayelem: | with 2 cards I'd expect to be able to record 4 consecutive shows on the same channel... |
| [22:56:00] | matthew_w: | like, slashing in all directions |
| [22:56:04] | matthew_w: | looks like it's broken apart |
| [22:56:06] | Juski: | works better than MCE doing it ;-) |
| [22:56:13] | matthew_w: | Works much better with mplayer, so it's not my video card |
| [22:56:26] | kormoc: | kayelem, with a single card, I can record 4 consecutive shows on the same channel |
| [22:56:37] | kayelem: | Juski, not been near anything M$ in years... |
| [22:56:45] | Juski: | heh |
| [22:56:49] | Juski: | I wish... |
| [22:56:49] | kormoc: | matthew_w, what decoder type are you using, as per Juski's question? |
| [22:57:01] | kayelem: | kormoc, not with start early/end late to take account of lousy scheduling you can't... |
| [22:57:11] | matthew_w: | hrmmm.. not sure... |
| [22:57:18] | Juski: | so check! |
| [22:57:33] | kormoc: | sure, I have the optional start end times set, so it will just swap over if needed |
| [22:57:56] | matthew_w: | xv |
| [22:57:59] | Juski: | the one time I've seen mythfrontend crash X was when it was trying to use ubuntu's xvmc wrapper |
| [22:58:02] | matthew_w: | It's using mplayer -vo xv |
| [22:58:06] | kayelem: | kormoc, with one card that'd cut off the end of a show and tag it on the start of the next recording, though... |
| [22:58:06] | kormoc: | matthew_w, try libmpeg |
| [22:58:09] | matthew_w: | ok |
| [22:58:23] | kormoc: | kayelem, it works well enough with mine |
| [22:58:24] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [22:58:35] | Juski: | matthew_w: the question was about mythfrontend not mplayer |
| [22:58:59] | Juski: | utils/setup > settings > tv > tv playback |
| [22:59:01] | kayelem: | kormoc, still, it managed to schedule 4 consecutive shows to use encoders 1, 2, 2, 1 – and I had to manually intervene. |
| [22:59:10] | matthew_w: | still crap |
| [22:59:22] | matthew_w: | Juski; oh sorry, I don't really know, I looked in "player settings" |
| [22:59:25] | matthew_w: | I'm a nub. |
| [22:59:51] | matthew_w: | "standard" |
| [23:00:02] | Juski: | ok |
| [23:00:26] | matthew_w: | I set it to libmpeg, still terrible |
| [23:00:28] | matthew_w: | libmpeg2 |
| [23:00:43] | Juski: | prolly needs fine tuning |
| [23:00:50] | kayelem: | mathhew_W; is the video source actually ok? |
| [23:00:54] | Juski: | and you almost definitely need to enable deinterlacing |
| [23:01:28] | kayelem: | i.e., is it working ok with, say, tvtime or xawtv.? |
| [23:01:43] | matthew_w: | kayelem, yes. |
| [23:01:50] | matthew_w: | Juski; already did, bad |
| [23:01:57] | matthew_w: | Still looks like it's been eaten alive |
| [23:02:11] | Juski: | try the nvidia driver then |
| [23:02:33] | matthew_w: | Ok, it works better when I use the nvidia driver with the TV-out off, |
| [23:02:38] | matthew_w: | as soon as I turn the TV out on it's botched |
| [23:02:57] | matthew_w: | One more question before I fine tune that |
| [23:03:03] | matthew_w: | Why does it only get a few of my channels? |
| [23:03:10] | matthew_w: | I did a scan, I have zip2it right |
| [23:03:18] | matthew_w: | It only gets 2–13 when I have 2-like100 |
| [23:07:20] | matthew_w: | Ok, I got the image working, now the quality is just low, any way to crank it up |
| [23:10:18] | jajaja-: | ok what is the best distro for me to install myth on...i am giving up with ubuntu after 3 unsuccessful tries |
| [23:10:37] | matthew_w: | How ... would I crank it up... the quality is fairly bad |
| [23:10:44] | kayelem: | jajaja-, which distro are you most familiar with? That's usually the best one. |
| [23:11:22] | kayelem: | matthew_w, recording profiles->LiveTV; fiddle with the encoder settings... (IIRC) |
| [23:11:23] | jajaja-: | everythings new to me kayelem...i did fine with ubuntu..just getting only static as picture |
| [23:11:51] | jajaja-: | and getting mythbackend errors / sql errors filling myth database |
| [23:12:28] | kayelem: | jajaja-, I could say "try knoppmyth"; I run one knoppmyth box and another on gentoo. ymmv with knoppmyth, though; depending on a) what you want and b) how well it likes your hardware. |
| [23:12:35] | matthew_w: | Where is recording profiles |
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| [23:12:55] | kayelem: | matthew_w, can't remember off the top of my head, somewhere in the frontend setup. |
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| [23:13:18] | kayelem: | matthew_w, it'd help you a lot if you familiarise yourself with all the settings and where they are. |
| [23:13:58] | kayelem: | I learned a lot just by working my way systematically through every setting and reading about what it did on the 'net if i wasn't sure what it did. |
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| [23:14:07] | jajaja-: | knoppmyth doesnt like my sata drives, so gentoo it is...any how-to's anywhere? |
| [23:14:19] | D-side: | for what, gentoo? |
| [23:14:23] | Juski: | google? |
| [23:14:24] | kayelem: | gentoo has mythtv howtos, yeah. |
| [23:14:29] | D-side: | damn right they do |
| [23:14:31] | kayelem: | google will find them. |
| [23:14:32] | jajaja-: | ok thanks |
| [23:14:43] | kayelem: | "site:gentoo.org mythtv" |
| [23:15:15] | kayelem: | be prepared for a few days continuous fun installing gentoo, though. |
| [23:15:20] | D-side: | hell, last i looked even mythtv.org has tons of docs |
| [23:15:31] | kayelem: | I'm still waiting for 393 packages to recompile on a fresh install... |
| [23:15:47] | kormoc: | what sorta howto do you need with gentoo? emerge mythtv? |
| [23:16:05] | matthew_w: | Furthermore, for some reason I get like 5 channels |
| [23:16:08] | kayelem: | "emerge mythtv" pretty much works if your USE flags are set right. |
| [23:16:14] | D-side: | kormoc: well you'd have to set up the db. |
| [23:16:14] | Dagmar: | You see the questions people ask in here daily and you still say that? |
| [23:16:15] | kormoc: | it warns you if they arn't |
| [23:16:20] | D-side: | thats uh, about it? :) |
| [23:16:28] | kormoc: | D-side, hehe, offical docs go over that :) |
| [23:16:31] | kayelem: | kormoc, ah, yeah. It's in the howto. |
| [23:16:49] | kayelem: | I don't know how easy it really is as I speak sql already. |
| [23:17:09] | D-side: | kormoc: the hard part is getting gentoo installed to begin with |
| [23:17:13] | D-side: | after that, POW. |
| [23:17:34] | kayelem: | D-side, heh, indeed... |
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| [23:17:55] | kayelem: | once a gentoo box is installed keeping it maintained is easy, and should never need a reinstall. |
| [23:18:07] | ** kormoc pets his many year old gentoo install ** | |
| [23:18:16] | kayelem: | that initial installation though... sheesh... glad i have distcc set up on 3 boxen. |
| [23:18:17] | kormoc: | yeah, gentoo's great :) |
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| [23:18:37] | Beirdo: | hehe] |
| [23:18:46] | D-side: | kormoc: you know how i install gentoo on new boxes (with the same arch) dont you? |
| [23:18:47] | Beirdo: | if you like mucho compiling |
| [23:18:48] | matthew_w: | Any way to make sure I get all of my channels? |
| [23:18:59] | Juski: | just be careful it doesn't pull in qt4 ! |
| [23:19:01] | D-side: | Beirdo: for maintenence, its not bad. |
| [23:19:05] | kayelem: | D-side, clone your existing install..? |
| [23:19:09] | D-side: | the original install is SUCH a pain in the ass though |
| [23:19:13] | D-side: | kayelem: you get a gold star |
| [23:19:16] | D-side: | rsync forever. |
| [23:19:17] | Beirdo: | umm, profile updates are a PITA at times |
| [23:19:26] | D-side: | i mean as in, i love rsync and will use it til the end of time. |
| [23:19:30] | kayelem: | matthew_w, tried going back into the backend setup and checking them, then rescanning? |
| [23:19:32] | D-side: | it wont take rsync forever to go. :) |
| [23:19:35] | Beirdo: | hell ya, rsync rules |
| [23:19:39] | kormoc: | my gentoo install is over 6 years old now, nifty |
| [23:19:41] | matthew_w: | Yes, not working |
| [23:19:42] | D-side: | Beirdo: i've never had much of a problem |
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| [23:19:50] | D-side: | hell, thats how i back up disks now |
| [23:19:56] | D-side: | usb 2.0 external drive. |
| [23:20:02] | Beirdo: | oh that reminds me |
| [23:20:03] | D-side: | plug it in, mount, rsync. |
| [23:20:07] | D-side: | SIMPLE. |
| [23:20:09] | Beirdo: | should feed the backup drive a tape |
| [23:20:15] | kayelem: | matthew_w, but you get more channels with tvtime/xawtv on the same card; so it's not a signal/antenna issue? |
| [23:20:51] | matthew_w: | It's cable, I should get a lot more channels than this, is all X_X |
| [23:21:10] | matthew_w: | Also, isn't there some way to put the video quality for livetv on lossless? |
| [23:21:15] | kayelem: | I have two DVB-T cards in mine (I'm in the UK) and had to increase the timeouts on channel scanning to get it to find all six multiplexes here. |
| [23:21:31] | kormoc: | matthew_w, mpeg2 is never lossless, but you can up the quality, aye |
| [23:21:38] | kayelem: | matthew_w, not unless you have *huge* disk space and disk I/O capacity... |
| [23:21:57] | kormoc: | matthew_w, keep in mind, live-tv is still recorded to the disk |
| [23:22:02] | kayelem: | LiveTV is recorded. |
| [23:22:06] | kayelem: | heh |
| [23:22:19] | kayelem: | shall I stop being an echo, kormoc ? ;-) |
| [23:23:03] | kormoc: | heh, don't worry bout it :) |
| [23:24:09] | matthew_w: | Furthermore – ... i can' |
| [23:24:17] | kayelem: | I don't have this problem as my incoming live tv is already an mpeg2 stream... I'd *like* to turn up the quality at the broadcast end... some channels are lousy.. |
| [23:24:21] | matthew_w: | t figure out why I'm not getting all of the channels I pay for, very odd. |
| [23:24:56] | kayelem: | does encrypted TV work with a CAM on MythTV? |
| [23:25:34] | kayelem: | I've been wondering whether UK "Top-Up TV" would work if I get the right card, plug a CAM in and pay money for extra channels... |
| [23:27:17] | kayelem: | matthew_w, presumably you have a cable box as well; with some sort of smartcard in it to permit viewing of paid-for channels..? |
| [23:27:21] | Juski: | there arent many SECA2 cams available, and the other option just isn't supported |
| [23:27:21] | matthew_w: | No. |
| [23:27:32] | matthew_w: | Kayelem, all of it is broadcast side |
| [23:27:38] | matthew_w: | I pay more money, I mysteriously have more channels |
| [23:27:50] | kayelem: | is this keyed to the box, though? |
| [23:28:18] | kayelem: | I know Pace boxes had a unique identifier and extra channels were keyed to the STB. I think. |
| [23:28:35] | matthew_w: | There is no box |
| [23:28:39] | matthew_w: | There is a cable in my wall. Period. |
| [23:28:39] | kayelem: | (I worked on the audio drivers mostly, so not all that familiar with the innermost secrets of Pace cable boxes...) |
| [23:28:43] | matthew_w: | It's now into the back of my computer |
| [23:28:46] | matthew_w: | which is into the tv |
| [23:29:28] | kayelem: | all I can think of is the card isn't tuning the channels; as I'm familiar with UK digital and analogue terrestrial only all I can do is guess. |
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| [23:30:03] | metalac: | so i still get random freezes |
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| [23:30:15] | metalac: | pretty much everytime i change a channel |
| [23:30:19] | metalac: | they are not full system freezes |
| [23:30:40] | metalac: | just LiveTV freezes and i have to push ESC to get out to myth menu and click on "watch tv" again |
| [23:30:47] | metalac: | it's geting annoying |
| [23:31:07] | metalac: | looked through the mailing list but couldn't find anything similar |
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| [23:31:44] | Juski: | it's all a conspiracy to stop people using live tv, I keep telling you |
| [23:31:55] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [23:32:05] | metalac: | ahahhaaha |
| [23:32:29] | xris: | Juski: there *is* a conspiracy to get rid of the pvr-350.... |
| [23:32:44] | xris: | talking about dropping framebuffer output support from .20 |
| [23:33:19] | GreyFoxx: | Don't you m,ean dropping the decoder support ? |
| [23:33:38] | Beirdo: | sounds a bit crazy |
| [23:33:43] | Juski: | ooo I can't _wait_ for all the lame-list emails about that one |
| [23:33:53] | xris: | GreyFoxx: thought it was video output... but you probably know more than me |
| [23:33:54] | Beirdo: | just stop fixing it until someone tries to fix it |
| [23:33:59] | Beirdo: | no need to remove it :) |
| [23:34:08] | GreyFoxx: | Noone using a 350 for output is maintaining the code |
| [23:34:14] | Beirdo: | exactly |
| [23:34:23] | Beirdo: | so leave it there, unmaintained with a caveat |
| [23:34:34] | xris: | Beirdo: need to disable it in the config |
| [23:34:35] | kormoc: | well, isn't that cause the x driver works well enough? |
| [23:34:40] | Beirdo: | and if someone gets pissed because it broke, they can volunteer :) |
| [23:34:52] | kayelem: | metalac, I had similar occasional freezes with DVB-T here; these disappeared when i installed a preamp, 15m of better-quality coax and a decent splitter to feed the TV cards. |
| [23:34:57] | Beirdo: | removing it is not the answer in my opinion |
| [23:35:02] | Juski: | look at the good side of it though – it's gonna stop people wasting their money ;-) |
| [23:35:03] | Beirdo: | just let it rot |
| [23:35:08] | xris: | Beirdo: remove/disable/whatever |
| [23:35:11] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:35:13] | Beirdo: | K |
| [23:35:32] | kormoc: | and after it's rotted for awhile? removal would be nice... |
| [23:35:52] | metalac: | kayelem: hmmmm i have a very good splitter i thought |
| [23:36:28] | metalac: | kayelem: i'll try going dirrect to the box without the splitter and see what's up |
| [23:39:08] | jajaja-: | what gentoo should i get...live, or minimal? |
| [23:39:20] | kayelem: | either way will take ages... |
| [23:39:30] | kayelem: | I'd go for the minimal and install off the 'net myself. |
| [23:39:48] | jajaja-: | okay thanks kayelem |
| [23:39:58] | kayelem: | I just did a "live" install and ended up with 393 packages to recompile after upgrading gcc and changing my USE flags and CFLAGS. |
| [23:40:32] | matthew_w: | Why oh sweet lord will the channels not work lol |
| [23:40:37] | kayelem: | at least upgrading a minimal console-only fresh install is around 70 packages to recompile, then you start installing stuff with no need to update it. |
| [23:41:44] | kayelem: | I thought I'd try this new-fangled "Gentoo Reference Platform" precompiled everything install and I wish now that I hadn't... |
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| [23:43:54] | metalac: | well replacing cables didn't help with freezing |
| [23:44:01] | metalac: | what's weird is that it's ONLY for LiveTV |
| [23:44:05] | metalac: | recordings are just fine |
| [23:44:07] | riddlebox: | I am using ubuntu dapper and mythtv-0.19 but I cannot get mythbackend to start at boot? |
| [23:44:58] | kormoc: | what's the error? |
| [23:45:28] | riddlebox: | kormoc, you talking to me? |
| [23:45:36] | kormoc: | jajaja-, live will get you a working box much faster, and it can compile in the background, while myth is running |
| [23:45:44] | kormoc: | riddlebox, only if you want any help |
| [23:46:08] | kormoc: | riddlebox, tho, you might want to wait for marty the mind reader, he doesn't need to know what's wrong before he fixes it :P |
| [23:46:13] | jajaja-: | kormoc, u think you can still help me out with my ubuntu myth errors before I scrap it for gentoo setup |
| [23:46:20] | Zambezi: | One question. Is it possible to have the MySQL-server installed on another computer when the one MythTV is installed on (and the one that has the tvcard)? |
| [23:46:29] | kormoc: | jajaja-, what errors did you have? |
| [23:46:32] | kormoc: | Zambezi, yes |
| [23:46:36] | riddlebox: | kormoc, mythbackend doesnt start at all, I have checked /etc/init.d and myth-backend is there? |
| [23:46:50] | Zider: | jajaja-: I'd say live as well, stage3 is the suggested install level anyway.. and there's a graphical installer now! ;D |
| [23:47:03] | riddlebox: | jajaja-,what is the problem I have installed myth on ubuntu? |
| [23:47:07] | kormoc: | riddlebox, did you tell it to start on startup? that directory just holds scripts, it doesn't autorun them (I beleive) |
| [23:47:19] | jajaja-: | i get sql errors when i fill database and... |
| [23:47:24] | riddlebox: | kormoc, yeah I did |
| [23:47:42] | jajaja-: | only static, and now mythbackend wont start...giving me the IP error |
| [23:48:05] | kormoc: | jajaja-, you mean the ones that I told you the other day you needed to downgrade mysql or upgrade myth to deal with? |
| [23:48:13] | kormoc: | riddlebox, and starting it by hand does? |
| [23:48:26] | riddlebox: | jajaja-, you dont have the user for mysql to have the right permissions, I had to grant them access to the database |
| [23:48:27] | Zambezi: | kormoc, Thanks. Then I can install the database on another computer and have top security. :-) |
| [23:48:29] | matthew_w: | How would one get the infrared remote working |
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| [23:48:33] | matthew_w: | ? |
| [23:48:36] | riddlebox: | kormoc, it works when I run it by hand |
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| [23:49:39] | kormoc: | riddlebox, and you told it to autostart how? |
| [23:49:51] | kormoc: | matthew_w, check the wiki |
| [23:50:01] | riddlebox: | kormoc, umm /etc/init.d/myth-backend start I believe |
| [23:50:08] | kormoc: | that's a one time start |
| [23:50:13] | kormoc: | that's not telling it to start on boot |
| [23:50:33] | jajaja-: | yes kormoc, how can i downgrade sql to 4 and grant those sql permissions? |
| [23:50:35] | kleptophobiac2: | making that script bootable and adding it to your appropriate rc system should make it start every time |
| [23:50:43] | kleptophobiac2: | err, executable |
| [23:50:58] | jajaja-: | kormoc, or how to upgrade to myth 0.19...i am unsure as to how |
| [23:51:04] | kormoc: | jajaja-, you'll need to ask someone who runs ubuntu, but there is a way to downgrade mysql and then just contine with the install |
| [23:51:12] | kormoc: | jajaja-, how to compile 0.19 is on the wiki |
| [23:51:40] | jajaja-: | if i just compile 0.19 and leave the sql 5 then that should help me out right? |
| [23:51:53] | kormoc: | that will work, aye |
| [23:52:10] | jajaja-: | ok great ill check the wiki, thank you kormoc |
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| [23:52:22] | riddlebox: | jajaja-, I run ubuntu and it was a pain to try to downgrade mysql so I just compiled the newest mythtv and it is working |
| [23:53:41] | Aid`: | I need some opinions, I have 120 gb hd, 100, 80 and a 20gb hd. What is the max amount of space that an OS usually takes up (and continued usage)? |
| [23:53:57] | riddlebox: | kormoc, I get this error mythbackendstart-stop daemon: unable to set initgroups() with gid 110(operation not permitted) |
| [23:54:03] | kormoc: | Aid`, my gentoo installs run around 4.5 gb or so |
| [23:54:08] | kormoc: | riddlebox, are you doing it via sudo? |
| [23:54:12] | metalac: | Aid`: i'd say 20gb should be plenty for OS |
| [23:54:18] | Zider: | my / is 20GB.. and it's usually half full.. |
| [23:54:25] | kormoc: | Aid`, and that's with games installed |
| [23:54:27] | kleptophobiac2: | my / is 4GB and it's 25% full |
| [23:54:28] | metalac: | Aid`: that is assuming you don't have like tons of programs and what not |
| [23:54:41] | kleptophobiac2: | and that includes OOo |
| [23:54:47] | riddlebox: | jajaja-, apt-get install build-essential mythtv should get you all packages needed to compile it |
| [23:54:53] | Aid`: | ok, because i finally figured out how to combine HDs and im just trying to come up withg the best system |
| [23:54:58] | jajaja-: | thank you riddlebox |
| [23:55:52] | riddlebox: | kormoc, my bad I didnt run that command as sudo, when run as sudo it does work |
| [23:56:00] | Aid`: | right now i have my configuration perfectly the way i want. is there anyway to copy all files over so i can just put it all on the 20gb hd and make theat the master? |
| [23:56:28] | metalac: | Aid`: look into "dd" |
| [23:57:08] | Aid`: | ok tyy |
| [23:57:09] | jajaja-: | riddlebox, it says i have the newest version |
| [23:57:16] | jajaja-: | when i run that apt command |
| [23:58:25] | riddlebox: | jajaja-, then you should be able to compile mythtv-0.19 |
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