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| [00:00:35] | enterusername: | lol |
| [00:00:45] | enterusername: | sure if those guides worked:) |
| [00:00:50] | enterusername: | i usualy do it from source :( |
| [00:01:05] | enterusername: | and i got the basics workign by source arg.. thand anyway |
| [00:01:28] | Anduin: | Yeah, because a guide and from source are totally incompatible. |
| [00:01:47] | enterusername: | hrm |
| [00:02:05] | enterusername: | Well ivtv isntructiosn from souce and mythtv instructions seem to work better :) |
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| [00:03:46] | Juski: | souce? |
| [00:04:42] | enterusername: | oh source :) |
| [00:04:51] | Juski: | tar xvjpf /linx-2.6.something.typing.error-blah-f00 -C /ur/protgea doesn't work, for some reason |
| [00:06:00] | Dagmar: | Hehehehe |
| [00:06:11] | Dagmar: | Put the -f and filename last. Heh |
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| [00:16:27] | stevenm: | Hello. Running 0.19. I want to adjust the picture settings for recording because recordings are too dark. I dont want to adjust the playback settings, but rather the recording settings. How do i do this? Pressing G while watching an in-progress recording does nothing |
| [00:17:55] | Dagmar: | Simple enough. You can't. |
| [00:18:31] | stevenm: | Why not? It in the documentation... |
| [00:18:47] | stevenm: | Is documentation old or do you have to do it some other way ? |
| [00:18:56] | Dagmar: | Well, if it's in the documentation then why do you need to ask about it? |
| [00:19:08] | stevenm: | because the key command given in the documentation does not WORK |
| [00:19:14] | Zambezi: | I have Xubuntu Dapper drake. I tried to install MythTV but it didn't work. I uninstall, installed the MySQL-server and client and the installed MythTV, but I still get error messages like this: http://pastebin.com/715690 |
| [00:20:38] | gardengnome: | Zambezi: set a proper password using 'mysqladmin' and run 'dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database'. that should do the job. i think. |
| [00:21:02] | Zambezi: | gardengnome, I'll try |
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| [00:22:19] | Zambezi: | gardengnome, "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv-database is broken or not completely installed" |
| [00:22:59] | gardengnome: | you'd better fix that then. re-installing the .deb might just work |
| [00:23:24] | enterusername: | hm |
| [00:23:25] | enterusername: | ya |
| [00:23:29] | enterusername: | thats the problem im having |
| [00:23:45] | enterusername: | how do i fix it |
| [00:23:48] | enterusername: | ? |
| [00:23:54] | Zambezi: | gardengnome, But I'm a Linuxbeginner. So I don't have a clue how I can solve it. |
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| [00:25:08] | tims: | im trying to get my winfast 2000xp tuner card working in debian, The composite input works on it fine, but when i switch to the input: television, all i get is snow with green bars... any ideas? |
| [00:25:33] | mchou: | time for some ice cream |
| [00:26:29] | stevenm: | tims, make sure its set to US-Cable in the frequency table |
| [00:26:32] | stevenm: | or wherever you are |
| [00:27:18] | tims: | its set for US in mythtv, in /etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf i have it set to tuner=2 which is US |
| [00:27:26] | stevenm: | wait |
| [00:27:32] | stevenm: | You set tuner=2 ? |
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| [00:27:47] | stevenm: | tims, this is bttv ? |
| [00:28:04] | tims: | thought it was, in dmesg bttv sees the winfast card |
| [00:28:20] | tims: | bttv0: using: Leadtek WinFast 2000/ WinFast 2000 XP [card=34,insmod option] |
| [00:28:20] | tims: | bttv0: using tuner=2 |
| [00:28:34] | stevenm: | tims, all right. the tuner=whatever parameter does not set the country. It specifies the type of tuner circuit on the card |
| [00:28:50] | mchou: | tims: what if you dont put the tuner option at all? |
| [00:28:56] | stevenm: | tims, bttv should not need the tuner parameter. on most (but not all) cards it will auto detect it |
| [00:29:03] | mchou: | tims: and stevenm is correct. |
| [00:29:07] | tims: | ah, let me try to comment that out |
| [00:29:29] | mchou: | tims: tuner type does not set country/modulation |
| [00:29:43] | stevenm: | tims, for instance, I have a ProLink card and bttv needs tuner=2 in this case. but for the vast majority of cards, bttv can detect it by itself |
| [00:30:22] | stevenm: | that is likely the problem |
| [00:31:01] | tims: | gotcha, took out tuner=2 in modules and modules.conf |
| [00:31:12] | tims: | rebooting now |
| [00:31:32] | tims: | there a quick command to reset? modprobe bttv or something? or should i restart anyway ? |
| [00:31:39] | enterusername: | damnit |
| [00:31:41] | mchou: | tims: there is no need to reboot |
| [00:31:43] | enterusername: | it keeps saying dd_tables not existing |
| [00:31:48] | enterusername: | for ubunt :( |
| [00:32:13] | mchou: | tims: rebooting is for windows |
| [00:33:30] | tims: | :) |
| [00:34:00] | tims: | now in dmesg is says tuner=5, which i dont have elsewhere, hopefully that means it autodetcted, however its still snow :( |
| [00:34:20] | Anduin: | enterusername: the dd_ tables are temp tables, them not existing is a perms problem |
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| [00:35:24] | stevenm: | tims, to refresh bttv, you can rmmod bttv |
| [00:35:28] | stevenm: | then modprobe it again |
| [00:35:31] | enterusername: | permission problem? |
| [00:35:43] | enterusername: | with accessing the databasE? |
| [00:37:00] | Anduin: | enterusername: with doing certain things with the DB |
| [00:37:01] | enterusername: | its not able to run mythfilldatabase |
| [00:37:02] | scottder: | Anyone getting HD OTA? I am looking for a decent indoor antenna, preferabbly an inexepensive one |
| [00:37:05] | scottder: | in the US |
| [00:37:08] | enterusername: | hmmm |
| [00:37:28] | enterusername: | well i run mythfilldatabase or trying to insert the schedules |
| [00:37:37] | enterusername: | it gives that error message dd_unable to execute query |
| [00:37:43] | Juski: | can't... focus.... prolly not a good idea to mess about installing any more shit now |
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| [00:38:35] | Juski: | maybe just a little.. |
| [00:38:43] | Anduin: | enterusername: Yes, the dd_ tables are only used when running mythfilldatabase, it creates them when it is working. If it can't create them it means there is a perms problem (assuming the actual DB exists) |
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| [00:38:52] | scottder: | Juski: that way leads to dooooom |
| [00:38:52] | scottder: | :) |
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| [00:39:20] | enterusername: | tys the database exists |
| [00:39:29] | enterusername: | the database does exist i did show tables |
| [00:39:33] | enterusername: | on mythconjverg; |
| [00:39:38] | enterusername: | erk show tables mythconverg; |
| [00:39:52] | Anduin: | enterusername: Yes, if it didn't exist you'd error out earlier. |
| [00:40:07] | enterusername: | oh |
| [00:40:24] | enterusername: | im not too sure what i cna do :( |
| [00:40:28] | Anduin: | enterusername: You did use mc.sql to initially create it? Are you still trying 0.18? |
| [00:40:37] | enterusername: | I didn tuse mc.sql |
| [00:40:46] | enterusername: | i basically uninstalled the 0.18 from ubuntu |
| [00:40:49] | enterusername: | adn reinstalled it |
| [00:40:55] | enterusername: | and its still giving me those errors |
| [00:41:04] | enterusername: | maybe i'll reinstalle verythign the database and whatnot |
| [00:41:11] | Anduin: | enterusername: this is packaged somehow? |
| [00:41:16] | enterusername: | ya |
| [00:41:22] | enterusername: | i can't do a svn either |
| [00:41:26] | enterusername: | its giving cmpile problems :( |
| [00:41:43] | Anduin: | enterusername: You can get a packaged 0.19-fixes? |
| [00:41:47] | Anduin: | er can't |
| [00:42:00] | enterusername: | i dont think so |
| [00:43:57] | stevenm: | tims, try getting the card to work with a different, simpler program first (like tvtime) |
| [00:44:21] | stevenm: | tims, if you get that working, start on mythtv. else it is a card problem |
| [00:45:44] | tims: | 1 sec – catching up |
| [00:46:35] | tims: | well the thing that gets me is the composite inputs work fine, just the coax doesnt... i switched cox cables even with my working PVR250 |
| [00:49:08] | stevenm: | tims, that is strange. I'd try it with a simpler program first. tvtime, xawtv (ech) etc |
| [00:49:25] | stevenm: | tims, sometimes a card will have a radio and a tv input.. make sure you have the right one |
| [00:49:35] | Zambezi: | I need help here. I tried, but it won't work to install: http://pastebin.com/715735 |
| [00:50:56] | stevenm: | tims, Finally, it is unlikely but possible, the tuner isn't properly detected. If it says tuner=5, you can pull out the card and look at the tuner (the big silver box) to make sure it says Phillips PAL tuner or something like it |
| [00:51:43] | stevenm: | tims, wait a sec... PAL? What? Doulbe check on that. Look what the tuner SAYS on it physically... afaik, America uses NTSC and not PAL |
| [00:52:30] | tims: | it detected it right, i have tvtime, but can't get it to work inside that either, but my experience with that is less, trying tvtime -d /dev/video0 -i 1 through 4 just show me blue screens, unless i have something in the composite... |
| [00:53:01] | Dagmar: | It's been misdetected then. |
| [00:53:14] | stevenm: | tims, tvtime has an option for Signal Detection. Turn that off.. dmesg will tell you which video device the card is on |
| [00:53:46] | stevenm: | tims, also, try without the card=wahtever option, it should auto detect that as well. verify the tuner is indeed NTSC by looking at the card. because PAL isnt right |
| [00:55:13] | stevenm: | tims, sounds like others have trouble with this card on the net |
| [00:55:47] | tims: | yeah, its a cheap card, i mainly want to use it as recording overflow in mythtv |
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| [00:56:08] | stevenm: | tims, hmm. seems like the proper thing to do after all is to specify card=34 tuner=2 |
| [00:56:17] | stevenm: | tims, is this your only bttv based card? |
| [00:56:39] | Dagmar: | I have one of those, and the only way I'd ever use it is if I could make it *only* be used for LiveTV and never attempt recording with it |
| [00:57:07] | stevenm: | Dagmar, why wouldnt you record with it |
| [00:57:19] | Dagmar: | Because I have a PVR-500 |
| [00:57:54] | Dagmar: | The only downside to which is a 3/4-second delay in channel changes. |
| [00:57:59] | stevenm: | Dagmar, aaaah. I dont see what the deal with all the MPEG2 stuff. software mpeg4 works well enough, no? |
| [00:58:16] | Dagmar: | stevenm: Well, let's see.... No. |
| [00:58:20] | Dagmar: | Not by a LONG ways. |
| [00:58:36] | stevenm: | Dagmar, is mpeg2 heaps better, or does mpeg4 not work for you ? |
| [00:58:50] | Dagmar: | For one, when the PVR-500 is being used for recording, the only way you can tell is from the disk activity light flashing every so often. The CPU load is pretty much nothing. |
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| [00:59:08] | Dagmar: | Hauppage PVR cards don't do mpeg4. |
| [00:59:17] | Dagmar: | mpeg4 in hardware also tends to cost quite a bit more |
| [00:59:27] | stevenm: | Dagmar, well I meant when compared to a regular card (bttv) with software mpeg4 encoding |
| [00:59:29] | Dagmar: | ...or at least, no one's got a cheap mpeg4 accellerated card |
| [00:59:48] | Dagmar: | I'm not wasting my CPU cycles doing live encoding |
| [01:00:26] | Dagmar: | I'm actually trying to work up an app to monitor the audio output and normalize it's volume. Those CPU cycles are better spent doing that |
| [01:00:45] | stevenm: | Dagmar, aah alright. I have it on my desktop, which is now pretty much exclusively myth, and it runs maybe 70% idle |
| [01:01:00] | Dagmar: | Plus, good luck doing background transcoding and recording a program at the same time |
| [01:01:35] | Dagmar: | stevenm: When I first got the PVR card, I had it in my desktop. CPU load while recording wouldn't even show up in the loadmeter |
| [01:01:40] | stevenm: | Dagmar, for transcoding i just use nuvexport occasionally. but watching and recording at the same time, plus commecial flagging is no problem at all |
| [01:01:42] | tims: | i have a haup. pvr250 as well |
| [01:01:45] | tims: | which works fine |
| [01:01:58] | stevenm: | how much are those ? |
| [01:02:07] | Dagmar: | Notably, we don't have as many silly problems getting the PVR cards to work. ;) |
| [01:02:36] | stevenm: | Haha dunno.. mine just worked fine. Had to tell it the tuner type but that was the end of the problems |
| [01:02:39] | tims: | my 250 has onboard mpeg4 |
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| [01:03:03] | Dagmar: | Since when |
| [01:03:22] | Dagmar: | The 250 is mpeg1/2 unless they've made a new model and didn't bother to update their product sheets |
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| [01:03:33] | Dagmar: | http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr250_datasheet.htm |
| [01:03:50] | stevenm: | Btw guys, if you have a card w/ hardware mpeg2, about what kind of system specs would you need for a well-functioning backend (and frontend) ? |
| [01:04:06] | Dagmar: | stevenm: Maybe 600Mhz |
| [01:04:10] | Dagmar: | If that much |
| [01:04:13] | tims: | ah, n/m probably does mpeg2 then :) |
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| [01:04:53] | Dagmar: | With the hardware accellerated encoding, the main issue becomes just a matter of whether or not the thing can play a video full-screen |
| [01:05:29] | Dagmar: | You could *probably* manage with a 333Mhz CPU, but I wouldn't expect it to be able to play and do anything else at the same time |
| [01:05:50] | tims: | stevenm: any other suggestions, ive tried the tuner=2 card=34 options in modules.conf and modules, loaded up tvtime and got a 'no signal' error on /dev/video0 (which mythtv shows as static and composite is working)... |
| [01:05:59] | Dagmar: | It starts to get painful to do some of the codecs in full screen below 500Mhz |
| [01:06:15] | stevenm: | tims, has it ever worked in windows? |
| [01:06:22] | tims: | never tried it |
| [01:06:35] | defaultro: | guys im back, anyone expert in mythmusic? :) |
| [01:06:37] | Dagmar: | tims: This isn't one of those Aimstek cards is it |
| [01:06:37] | stevenm: | tims, also tvtime has a frequency selection option. Did you set THAT to us-cable ? |
| [01:06:44] | tims: | nope – leadtek winfast 2000 |
| [01:07:26] | Dagmar: | You mean like http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions//showthread.php?t=445641 |
| [01:08:46] | stevenm: | tims, perhaps try tuner=43 as well |
| [01:08:50] | Dagmar: | You also might wish to consult http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tvtuner/ |
| [01:08:55] | stevenm: | instead of tuner=2 |
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| [01:09:23] | stevenm: | tims, according to this wiki page, newer US versions of that card need tuner=43 for NTSC. cant hurt to try right |
| [01:10:02] | defaultro: | can someone do this for me please, SELECT count(*) FROM settings WHERE value = 'MusicLocation' |
| [01:10:53] | Dagmar: | tims: It might be time to crack open the machine and look at the card to see what tuner chip it has on it |
| [01:11:06] | marmoset: | defaultro: 5 here |
| [01:11:23] | tims: | yep – tried -frequencies=us-cable, nothin |
| [01:11:25] | marmoset: | but I have multiple front ends that have or are in existence |
| [01:11:32] | marmoset: | one for each |
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| [01:11:35] | defaultro: | marmoset, thanks |
| [01:11:37] | marmoset: | (including the backend) |
| [01:11:53] | defaultro: | marmoset, I thought there was an issue in my side because I have 2 |
| [01:12:06] | tims: | i just bought the card, i know it said winfast 2000, with ntsc checked off in marker, jsut bought it from newegg |
| [01:12:26] | stevenm: | tims, I meant it has an option in the UI to configure it (left click the tvtime screen for a menu) |
| [01:12:28] | defaultro: | marmoset, my mythmusic is weird, the songs I wanted to add doesn't get added |
| [01:12:35] | tims: | stevenm: where do i set the tuner=43 in modules or modules.conf ? |
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| [01:12:42] | defaultro: | i have no idea anymore on how to fix it |
| [01:12:51] | marmoset: | defaultro: never used it, I've got a couple squeezeboxes/slimp3s and prefer them :) |
| [01:12:59] | stevenm: | tims, it would be in modules.conf |
| [01:13:03] | defaultro: | marmoset, what are those? |
| [01:13:11] | defaultro: | is it a device? |
| [01:13:13] | stevenm: | tims, or you can close tvtime, rmmod bttv, then modprobe bttv card=34 tuner=43 |
| [01:13:14] | marmoset: | yeah |
| [01:13:17] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [01:13:17] | marmoset: | defaultro: http://slimdevices.com/ |
| [01:13:20] | defaultro: | cool |
| [01:13:53] | Dagmar: | wtf |
| [01:14:08] | defaultro: | actually, am also looking for a keypad or touchscreen that I can mount on my wall, it should know or understand playlist from a streamer, then I can select from it |
| [01:14:26] | defaultro: | wow, those are nice looking box |
| [01:14:49] | defaultro: | is that based on linux too? |
| [01:14:51] | marmoset: | defaultro: they're great for what they do. |
| [01:15:01] | defaultro: | ok |
| [01:15:01] | marmoset: | defaultro: the device is an embedded thing, the server for it is perl |
| [01:15:06] | defaultro: | bam |
| [01:15:19] | stevenm: | defaultro, ooooh swanky |
| [01:15:25] | defaultro: | it's nice but it wouldn't apply for my setup |
| [01:15:27] | Dagmar: | You seem to have overlooked the $1,499.00 price tag |
| [01:15:35] | marmoset: | Dagmar: that's with the TB NAS |
| [01:15:36] | defaultro: | everything will be terminated in the media closet |
| [01:15:46] | marmoset: | Dagmar: I hadn't even seen that before a few minutes ago ;) |
| [01:16:01] | Dagmar: | $250 is still expensive |
| [01:16:21] | marmoset: | Dagmar: yeah, but it's got a nice DAC in it, and it just works |
| [01:16:42] | Dagmar: | Once they get around to releasing Opera for the @#$@!$ Nintendo DS I'll be set |
| [01:16:48] | defaultro: | i'm looking in to buying the Russound Cav 6.6 |
| [01:16:52] | Dagmar: | ...or any browser for that matter |
| [01:16:53] | marmoset: | no moving parts for the stereo is nice |
| [01:17:07] | defaultro: | then hook a streamer player there |
| [01:17:17] | defaultro: | prolly, not streams, just regular play |
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| [01:18:07] | defaultro: | but those slimdevices are really gorgeous |
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| [01:19:02] | Aid`: | Hi |
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| [01:21:10] | stevenm: | tims, any luck on tuner=43 / |
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| [01:21:16] | awa64: | hey there. |
| [01:21:20] | defaultro: | so guys, what could be the reason why the mp3 I placed in /video/music/newsongs is not being added? |
| [01:21:42] | awa64: | dunno |
| [01:21:49] | defaultro: | should I delete all the contents of musicmetadata? |
| [01:22:23] | Dagmar: | You did tell it scan for new music, right? |
| [01:22:29] | defaultro: | yes |
| [01:22:33] | Dagmar: | Oh well |
| [01:22:47] | gardengnome: | night guys. |
| [01:22:47] | defaultro: | and dir is pointing to /video/music |
| [01:22:58] | defaultro: | Dagmar, so what do you think am I doing wrong? |
| [01:23:13] | Dagmar: | Could be anything. |
| [01:23:18] | Dagmar: | I don't guess at such things. |
| [01:23:23] | defaultro: | :) |
| [01:23:36] | Dagmar: | Every time I do, I find someone doing something more dim than I could ever imagine. |
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| [01:23:54] | Dagmar: | ...like not making the files readable by the mythtv user. |
| [01:24:01] | defaultro: | I'm thinking of deleting the entire contents of that table :) |
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| [01:24:25] | defaultro: | i've got rw-r--r-- perms |
| [01:24:38] | defaultro: | and my myth is ran is root |
| [01:24:56] | Dagmar: | The directory had better be drwxr-xr-x |
| [01:25:00] | defaultro: | yes |
| [01:25:25] | Dagmar: | Could be that it doesn't like pirated mp3s |
| [01:25:31] | defaultro: | :D LOL |
| [01:25:38] | defaultro: | it's a new cd that I ripped |
| [01:25:49] | awa64: | What's it a CD of? |
| [01:25:51] | defaultro: | I've got 6,453 songs right now |
| [01:26:00] | Dagmar: | Oh then the answer is obvious. |
| [01:26:07] | defaultro: | and didn't have any issues before |
| [01:26:11] | Dagmar: | You can't find the new additions in amongst all the mess. |
| [01:26:18] | defaultro: | nope |
| [01:26:23] | defaultro: | I'm using SELECT statement |
| [01:26:23] | Dagmar: | ...or your DB is just plain filling /var now |
| [01:26:32] | defaultro: | i've got 1.3 g left |
| [01:26:40] | defaultro: | I've looked at everything |
| [01:26:41] | Dagmar: | ...or you've pooched write privs to that table |
| [01:26:44] | defaultro: | i mean most |
| [01:26:56] | defaultro: | that could be one |
| [01:27:00] | defaultro: | hmmm |
| [01:27:05] | defaultro: | i don't think so |
| [01:27:11] | Dagmar: | I love it when people set passwords on their databases and don't bother to tell MythTV about them |
| [01:27:12] | defaultro: | the other song got updated too |
| [01:27:29] | defaultro: | here is an example |
| [01:27:29] | defaultro: | 2005-05–09 00:00:00 2006-06–17 16:10:06 |
| [01:27:38] | defaultro: | i added may 9 2005 |
| [01:27:43] | defaultro: | i executed it a while ago |
| [01:27:50] | Dagmar: | ...and when they forget and are manually starting mysql, run it once as root, and then later remember to run it as the right uid so it can't write to it's own db files anymore |
| [01:27:51] | defaultro: | that means, the user is able to write to it |
| [01:28:03] | defaultro: | Dagmar, i don't think so |
| [01:28:13] | Dagmar: | You *should* be able to tell from show grants |
| [01:28:18] | defaultro: | look again, it updated the date_modified field |
| [01:28:33] | defaultro: | so I guess, it's not a perms issue |
| [01:28:36] | defaultro: | but i will look now |
| [01:28:49] | Dagmar: | Make sure those are actually playable mp3 files then |
| [01:29:18] | defaultro: | i just did, mythtv mythtv 0476f2332555ffe24 Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y |
| [01:29:25] | defaultro: | of course buddy |
| [01:29:33] | defaultro: | I just played it with mplayer |
| [01:29:48] | defaultro: | i don't think that scanning knows about each format of mp3 header |
| [01:29:53] | defaultro: | it doesn't do it that way |
| [01:29:57] | Dagmar: | There's only the one format |
| [01:30:02] | defaultro: | not mine |
| [01:30:18] | defaultro: | mine can play ogg, mp3, flac, wav wma |
| [01:31:10] | defaultro: | if i truncate table musicmetadata, I will be able to add all again |
| [01:31:13] | Dagmar: | Several of those, I'd like to point out, are not mp3 |
| [01:31:28] | defaultro: | yep, they're not mp3, they are differnt format |
| [01:31:33] | Dagmar: | "each format of mp3 header" <-- there is only one mp3 |
| [01:31:41] | defaultro: | ooh |
| [01:31:44] | defaultro: | what i mean was |
| [01:31:57] | defaultro: | that scanner does not take a look at the header of each mp3 file extension |
| [01:32:01] | Dagmar: | if you've been saying "mp3" and those are flac files, you should be smacked |
| [01:32:04] | defaultro: | let say it found song1.mp3 |
| [01:32:10] | defaultro: | lol |
| [01:32:12] | defaultro: | you're confused |
| [01:32:19] | defaultro: | flac are different fromat |
| [01:32:20] | defaultro: | format |
| [01:32:24] | Dagmar: | No s**t |
| [01:32:27] | defaultro: | :) |
| [01:32:52] | defaultro: | so yeah, you are wrong that if mp3 is not real mp3, it won't be added |
| [01:33:01] | defaultro: | i don't believe in that |
| [01:33:12] | defaultro: | it will be added but player will complain when you play it |
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| [01:33:36] | Dagmar: | I was thinking more along the lines of your ripping utility may have died during the night and filled your stockings with zeroes or somethin |
| [01:34:18] | defaultro: | so you're saying now that mplayer is buggy because it's able to play the mp3 i have ripped, am I correct? |
| [01:34:52] | defaultro: | i'll try to truncate the table and rescan it again |
| [01:35:21] | Dagmar: | I said nothing of the sort. |
| [01:36:26] | defaultro: | that's how I understand it earlier, if not, i apologize |
| [01:37:26] | Dagmar: | I asked *before* you mentioned you'd tested the files with mplayer |
| [01:37:35] | defaultro: | <Dagmar> Make sure those are actually playable mp3 files then |
| [01:37:54] | defaultro: | That's the I assumed |
| [01:38:09] | defaultro: | and yes, I can play it with mplayer with no issues |
| [01:38:33] | Dagmar: | yes, the other possibility to be eliminated being that they were actually cunningly disguised files containing broken encoder vomit |
| [01:38:37] | defaultro: | and like what I said, i don't think there is a feature right now that will verify if the file with an extension of .mp3 is a real mp3 header |
| [01:39:02] | Dagmar: | Linux, in general, does not care what you name files, man. |
| [01:39:03] | defaultro: | s/is a real mp3 header/has a real mp3 header/ |
| [01:39:07] | defaultro: | exactly |
| [01:39:19] | defaultro: | you hit the head on the nail |
| [01:39:37] | defaultro: | coz you mentioned, they are actually playable mp3 files |
| [01:39:49] | defaultro: | and if we go back, my issue is just adding those songs and not playing |
| [01:40:43] | defaultro: | i can do this echo "sometext" > mymusic.mp3 and it will get added but player will complain, it might even get a core dump |
| [01:41:00] | defaultro: | oops, segfault i mean :) |
| [01:41:16] | defaultro: | i'm going to truncate the table and rescan again |
| [01:41:43] | defaultro: | but before I do that, i want to research first about what musicplaylist does |
| [01:42:06] | defaultro: | i don't know if that has something to do with songs not being added |
| [01:43:20] | Dagmar: | Go poke at the source and scribble some printf's in there so that it tells you what it's doing and then watch the console output |
| [01:43:52] | defaultro: | yeah, i just saw the code |
| [01:44:00] | defaultro: | it does a join between those 2 tables |
| [01:44:15] | Dagmar: | Ooo |
| [01:44:22] | Dagmar: | check the error log for the db then |
| [01:45:25] | defaultro: | this is what i saw, http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2003-February/006521.html |
| [01:45:31] | defaultro: | but kinda old |
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| [01:49:19] | bluef0x: | hey all |
| [01:49:37] | bluef0x: | anyone know how to get a wireless network to work |
| [01:49:47] | mchou: | wtf |
| [01:49:53] | bluef0x: | im trying ndiswrapper |
| [01:50:00] | tims: | alright – im done |
| [01:50:01] | bluef0x: | to install the drivers |
| [01:50:04] | tims: | no luck on tuner =43 |
| [01:50:18] | mchou: | bluef0x: so? this is the #mythtv-users channel |
| [01:52:12] | bluef0x: | yes, but u also need internet to run mythtv... |
| [01:53:40] | mchou: | bluef0x: so? you need internet to run you web browser too. Why dont you go bother the #mozilla folks? |
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| [01:54:14] | bluef0x: | chill out, i just asked a question |
| [01:54:25] | bluef0x: | if u dont want to help ignore it |
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| [01:58:12] | iamsthithatoo: | hey |
| [01:58:24] | iamsthithatoo: | is anyone using a theatre 550 capture card? |
| [01:59:50] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: Does ATI support linux? :) |
| [02:00:07] | Zider: | barely. |
| [02:02:39] | hadees: | anyone here notice a delay in mythvideo for xine to go fullscreen |
| [02:03:31] | bluef0x: | ok mr. mchou, here's a MYTHTV QUESTION. when i go to install the ivtv driver components like it says in wilsonet's guide.. this command yum install ivtv-kmdl-$KVER returns "ivtv-kmdl- not found" |
| [02:04:21] | jerky_2: | bluef0x: you don't have $KVER defined then |
| [02:04:23] | defaultro: | hey mchou |
| [02:04:31] | jerky_2: | set $KVER equal to uname -r |
| [02:04:45] | bluef0x: | how do i do that |
| [02:04:46] | jerky_2: | well, the output of uname -r, i mean |
| [02:04:52] | mchou: | defaultro: hi |
| [02:05:05] | iamsthithatoo: | mchou, no.. that's why I'm asking if drivers exist for it |
| [02:05:27] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: I dont think so, at least not yet |
| [02:05:46] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: and I wouldnt hold my breath for one either :) |
| [02:05:53] | bluef0x: | can anyone give me the commands i put to setup $KVER |
| [02:06:05] | jerky_2: | bluef0x, first type uname -r, you should get a response like 2.6.16–1.2111_FC4 |
| [02:06:09] | iamsthithatoo: | would there happen to be some generic drivers that would work with it? |
| [02:06:22] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: doubtful |
| [02:06:51] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: there are no such things as "generic" drivers |
| [02:07:21] | bluef0x: | thx i just used the version # instead of $KVER |
| [02:07:26] | jerky_2: | word |
| [02:07:31] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: considering the theatre is new HW |
| [02:07:45] | jerky_2: | there are directions in the wilsonnet FAQ on how to have $KVER set for you automatically through login scripts |
| [02:07:53] | jerky_2: | you use the export command to do that |
| [02:08:07] | mchou: | sigh.... |
| [02:08:44] | mchou: | bluef0x: yum update ivtv-kmdl-`uname -r` |
| [02:08:53] | mchou: | bluef0x: notice the backticks |
| [02:09:02] | bluef0x: | ok another question, it says i need to edit /etc/modprobe.conf and then tells me to do "# ivtv modules setup" |
| [02:09:10] | bluef0x: | i get "ivtv: command not found" |
| [02:10:36] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: I am puzzled why companies still create HW for encoding NTSC too :) |
| [02:11:12] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: I mean that tells me ppl really dont believe NTSC is going away :) |
| [02:11:26] | iamsthithatoo: | what? |
| [02:11:49] | defaultro: | finally, I was able to fix mythmusic. I had to truncate musicmetadata and delete the values in songlist field in musicplaylist |
| [02:12:01] | defaultro: | hey mchou, what's up |
| [02:12:05] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: what do you mean 'what?' |
| [02:12:33] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: ever heard of the analog to digital transition? :) |
| [02:12:41] | mchou: | defaultro: same old |
| [02:12:50] | defaultro: | how is your Joliet? |
| [02:13:08] | mchou: | defaultro: havent done any research since we last talked |
| [02:13:10] | defaultro: | I was telling it to my friend and they're very interested too |
| [02:13:11] | bluef0x: | am i supposed to add those 3 lines on wilsonet's guide or only the "alias" lines |
| [02:13:42] | mchou: | defaultro: did you wife get the "hint??" |
| [02:13:48] | defaultro: | huh |
| [02:13:58] | defaultro: | about what? |
| [02:13:58] | mchou: | defaultro: about the school district :) |
| [02:14:03] | defaultro: | oh |
| [02:14:03] | iamsthithatoo: | mchou, sorry.. I have no idea what you're talking about... I'm still trying to make my theatre 550 magically work |
| [02:14:16] | defaultro: | i told her about and she haven't shown me anything yet |
| [02:14:22] | mchou: | defaultro: lol |
| [02:14:23] | defaultro: | she knew i was a bit pissed off |
| [02:14:46] | defaultro: | but there are many stories here that 158 is really good |
| [02:14:51] | bluef0x: | can anyone help me? ;o |
| [02:14:52] | defaultro: | could be knew though |
| [02:15:01] | defaultro: | oops |
| [02:15:02] | mchou: | defaultro: maybe |
| [02:15:05] | defaultro: | could be new though |
| [02:17:02] | mchou: | defaultro: there is no doubt in my mind joliet is booming |
| [02:17:25] | mchou: | defaultro: question is what happens if casinos leave :) |
| [02:17:43] | mchou: | defaultro: be stuck w/ bunch of lowlifes :) |
| [02:19:21] | mchou: | iamsthithatoo: seriously, give up on the theatre now in linux while you're ahead. Try later when someone like ATI decides to write linux drivers for it..... |
| [02:19:36] | bluef0x: | ok i opened up modprobe.conf with KWrite and added those alias commands... when i try to save it says i dont have permission |
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| [02:20:44] | bluef0x: | what am i supposed to do |
| [02:22:23] | bluef0x: | ? |
| [02:23:51] | defaultro: | :D |
| [02:25:14] | mchou: | defaultro: how do the IL natives pronounce "Joliet?" |
| [02:25:33] | defaultro: | Just jaw |
| [02:25:57] | mchou: | defaultro: according to wikipedia Jolly-ette is not correct |
| [02:25:57] | defaultro: | jawleeyet |
| [02:26:02] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [02:26:04] | defaultro: | what is it |
| [02:26:11] | defaultro: | joleigh |
| [02:26:19] | defaultro: | or oleigh |
| [02:26:20] | mchou: | defaultro: beats me, that why I asked you :) |
| [02:26:24] | defaultro: | :D |
| [02:26:42] | defaultro: | wikipedia is wrong |
| [02:26:54] | mchou: | defaultro: what else is new :) |
| [02:27:10] | defaultro: | my friend who is in romeoville told me that romeoville got its name from joliet |
| [02:27:11] | defaultro: | LOL |
| [02:27:20] | mchou: | defaultro: that is true |
| [02:27:24] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [02:27:32] | awa64: | So... anyone got any ideas about how to get my sound issues in MythTV resolved? |
| [02:27:35] | defaultro: | so Jaw lee yet is correct then |
| [02:27:45] | mchou: | defaultro: I think Joliet natives say "Juliet" |
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| [02:28:03] | defaultro: | awa64, i wish i could helped. When I saw your handle, I assumed you were experts in sound |
| [02:28:20] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:28:32] | defaultro: | I'm more familiar with Juliet too |
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| [02:28:35] | awa64: | The card you're thinking of is an awe64. |
| [02:28:38] | defaultro: | yep |
| [02:28:43] | defaultro: | just e |
| [02:28:44] | defaultro: | :P |
| [02:29:16] | awa64: | I'm even starting to rethink if this is the path I want to go with this thing. |
| [02:29:24] | mchou: | awa64: lol |
| [02:29:45] | mchou: | awa64: what other paths do you have in mind? |
| [02:30:16] | bluef0x: | do the radeon 8500le drivers from ati work with mythtv? |
| [02:30:30] | awa64: | Maybe try to work out a Windows-based solution. (Works better for my iPod and probably the scanner I've got and will need to use more next year.) |
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| [02:30:47] | awa64: | Although I really did like the idea of learning some Linux stuff and getting a PVR set up right. |
| [02:30:49] | mchou: | awa64: if you say MCE I'm going to say bwhahaha!! |
| [02:30:57] | awa64: | Oh, MCE's a piece of shit. |
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| [02:31:05] | awa64: | It doesn't even support the card I have in my system. |
| [02:31:16] | defaultro: | awa64, spare the many nights and bear fruit |
| [02:31:17] | mchou: | awa64: what exactly is your sound issue? |
| [02:31:29] | awa64: | MythTV can't get sound. |
| [02:31:30] | defaultro: | awa, trust me, you will be very happy with mythtv |
| [02:31:43] | defaultro: | awa, get rid of mythtv first |
| [02:31:45] | mchou: | awa64: you havent even been at it one wk and you're giving up? :) |
| [02:31:49] | bluef0x: | man can someone just tell me how to save a file in KWrite |
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| [02:31:54] | bluef0x: | it says i dont have access |
| [02:31:54] | defaultro: | do some initial testing such as aplay or so |
| [02:32:07] | defaultro: | bluefox, use vi ;P |
| [02:32:13] | bluef0x: | wuts vi |
| [02:32:19] | defaultro: | oh no :( |
| [02:32:24] | awa64: | good god, man! |
| [02:32:27] | mchou: | defaultro: the dude is a lost case |
| [02:32:37] | defaultro: | that's the very basic utility |
| [02:32:39] | bluef0x: | everyone was born with linux knowledge |
| [02:32:42] | defaultro: | nope |
| [02:32:42] | jerky_2: | bluef0x, can't you just click the save button? |
| [02:32:46] | defaultro: | i was from dos then windows |
| [02:32:50] | bluef0x: | no jerky, says i dont have access |
| [02:32:51] | defaultro: | then started linux 95 |
| [02:32:55] | mchou: | defaultro: isnt familiar w/ concept of perms and superuser |
| [02:32:58] | defaultro: | yep |
| [02:33:01] | defaultro: | that's the problem |
| [02:33:07] | bluef0x: | i know su |
| [02:33:08] | awa64: | bluef0x, even I know what vi is, and I've only used Linux for maybe 25 hours over the course of my life. |
| [02:33:09] | bluef0x: | :) |
| [02:33:13] | defaultro: | i started with joe tool |
| [02:33:16] | awa64: | I knew what vi was before I even tried linux. |
| [02:33:17] | bluef0x: | ive used linux for ... 5 |
| [02:33:19] | defaultro: | but it was like wordstar |
| [02:33:37] | defaultro: | i got embarrased when they told me that i'm not a unix user if i'm not using vi |
| [02:33:49] | awa64: | eh, fuck the elitists. |
| [02:33:52] | defaultro: | 5 years, month, days? |
| [02:33:59] | bluef0x: | well guess ill go type "vi" everywhere until something pops up |
| [02:34:00] | awa64: | hours, I'm guessing. |
| [02:34:07] | defaultro: | vi is command line |
| [02:34:09] | awa64: | type "vi /path/to/file" to open the file with vi. |
| [02:34:18] | defaultro: | let me find you a tutorial |
| [02:34:20] | bluef0x: | he said hours , i responded with how many ive been using |
| [02:34:36] | defaultro: | but you will be very happy once you learn vi |
| [02:34:39] | defaultro: | trust me |
| [02:34:45] | defaultro: | here is a tip |
| [02:34:52] | defaultro: | there is a command mode and insert mode |
| [02:34:57] | defaultro: | that's the weird thing in vi |
| [02:34:58] | mchou: | awa64: you gonna tell me about your sound issue or not? |
| [02:35:04] | awa64: | OK. |
| [02:35:10] | awa64: | System has sound. |
| [02:35:18] | awa64: | TV Tuners other than Myth get sound. |
| [02:35:20] | defaultro: | bluefox, command mode will let you do things for the text you have typed |
| [02:35:34] | defaultro: | bluefox, insert mode will allow you to enter your love letters message |
| [02:35:42] | defaultro: | i mean, text :P |
| [02:35:44] | awa64: | Myth can't get sound unless I unmute the line-in jack the sound is going through, and if I do that, it's not synchronized with the video. |
| [02:35:47] | mchou: | awa64: then you need to read the official myth docs CAREFULLY |
| [02:36:02] | mchou: | awa64: it's all covered there |
| [02:36:05] | jerky_2: | bluef0x, choose a directory that you have permission to write to. :) |
| [02:36:10] | awa64: | tried all the troubleshooting suggestions in the official myth docs. |
| [02:36:10] | bluef0x: | ok i got the vi thing and file, how do i type into the document |
| [02:36:11] | awa64: | No dice. |
| [02:36:12] | mchou: | awa64: I kid you not |
| [02:36:24] | mchou: | awa64: bull |
| [02:36:28] | defaultro: | bluefox, press i once |
| [02:36:33] | bluef0x: | jerky_2 im doing what the guide said :O |
| [02:36:35] | awa64: | no bull. |
| [02:36:36] | mchou: | awa64: so what exactly did you try? |
| [02:36:37] | defaultro: | then start typing |
| [02:36:41] | defaultro: | i means insert |
| [02:36:56] | bluef0x: | thank you very much |
| [02:37:00] | defaultro: | this is the best, http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html |
| [02:37:10] | awa64: | ok. |
| [02:37:14] | defaultro: | you are now in INSERT mode |
| [02:37:16] | awa64: | Going through the troubleshooting... |
| [02:37:18] | jerky_2: | bluef0x, never use vi. you need to start small and vi is not a good place for a beginner to start |
| [02:37:27] | awa64: | -couldn't get xawtv installed. |
| [02:37:30] | defaultro: | jerky, oh no |
| [02:37:37] | jerky_2: | vi is a powerful editor that is best left to the experts |
| [02:37:38] | defaultro: | bluefox, use vi |
| [02:37:43] | awa64: | -used alsamixer to set it properly, as suggested in documentation. |
| [02:37:50] | defaultro: | jerky, when will he learn |
| [02:37:59] | jerky_2: | bluef0x, use vi. just not today. or any time this year. :) |
| [02:38:01] | defaultro: | trust me bluefox, it's just an editor |
| [02:38:08] | defaultro: | he is using it now and he is determined |
| [02:38:10] | bluef0x: | i used it |
| [02:38:12] | mchou: | awa64: dude, that's not myth. and if you didnt get xawtv installed how do you even know tv sound works? |
| [02:38:16] | defaultro: | you can get it going in 10 mins |
| [02:38:18] | bluef0x: | how do i save/exit |
| [02:38:19] | defaultro: | trust me |
| [02:38:24] | jerky_2: | defaultro, he doesn't even know where he can write files... i think he should start by learning what that is and then get to vi later... :) |
| [02:38:24] | defaultro: | press esc key |
| [02:38:33] | awa64: | mchou, I used tvtime. |
| [02:38:46] | bluef0x: | its saved? |
| [02:38:46] | defaultro: | im just giving him some small tips |
| [02:38:48] | mchou: | defaultro: give the dude vi tutorial via pm |
| [02:38:51] | defaultro: | not yet |
| [02:38:55] | defaultro: | you are now in COMMANd mode |
| [02:39:07] | defaultro: | bluefox, please bookmark the tutorial |
| [02:39:10] | mchou: | awa64: ok, so tvtime works |
| [02:39:15] | defaultro: | i'm giving him 5 min tutorial |
| [02:39:16] | defaultro: | :) |
| [02:39:17] | awa64: | yeah. Video and audio. |
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| [02:39:30] | defaultro: | i'm very nice today :D |
| [02:39:32] | mchou: | awa64: what did you do after trying tvtime? |
| [02:39:40] | defaultro: | bluefox, you are in command mode write now |
| [02:39:45] | bluef0x: | k |
| [02:39:53] | defaultro: | you can press esc many times to make sure you are in command mode |
| [02:39:57] | defaultro: | now |
| [02:40:03] | awa64: | tried to install xawtv to test it with that, like the docs suggested, but it wouldn't install via yum or apt-get, and the RPMs have me in dependancy hell. |
| [02:40:17] | defaultro: | bluefox, press the colon symbol by pressing SHIFT then the colon |
| [02:40:22] | mchou: | awa64: you can skip xawtv if tvtime works |
| [02:40:24] | defaultro: | you will see it at the bottom left |
| [02:40:27] | awa64: | OK. |
| [02:40:34] | awa64: | re-checked the mixer. |
| [02:40:35] | defaultro: | did you see the colon symbol? |
| [02:40:37] | mchou: | awa64: but what do you do after this? |
| [02:40:38] | bluef0x: | yes |
| [02:40:40] | defaultro: | cool |
| [02:40:46] | awa64: | Tried killing any processes that would be using the sound stuff. |
| [02:41:05] | awa64: | Past that... I don't even know WHAT to try. That's pretty much where the Myth doc's troubleshooting for sound leaves off. |
| [02:41:05] | mchou: | awa64: damn, go back and REREAD the myth docs AGAIN |
| [02:41:12] | defaultro: | we will type :w /tmp/test.txt then press Enter key |
| [02:41:18] | mchou: | awa64: you clearly didnt follow it |
| [02:41:21] | defaultro: | disregard : |
| [02:41:25] | awa64: | Troubleshooting section, or which part? |
| [02:41:26] | defaultro: | since you already have it |
| [02:41:32] | defaultro: | w /tmp/test.txt |
| [02:41:43] | mchou: | awa64: I dont know which part, but it's convered |
| [02:41:44] | bluef0x: | k |
| [02:41:48] | bluef0x: | did it |
| [02:41:49] | defaultro: | you will see something like written |
| [02:41:50] | mchou: | covered* |
| [02:41:53] | defaultro: | did you? |
| [02:41:57] | bluef0x: | yea |
| [02:41:59] | defaultro: | cool |
| [02:42:05] | bluef0x: | new 11l, 385sc written |
| [02:42:07] | defaultro: | you are still in command mode |
| [02:42:12] | defaultro: | press colon again |
| [02:42:21] | defaultro: | then type q to quit |
| [02:42:25] | defaultro: | w means write |
| [02:42:40] | defaultro: | you are back to console |
| [02:42:43] | bluef0x: | but i dont want this file to be text.txt, do i do modprobe.conf |
| [02:42:50] | awa64: | ok. Checked the "configuring sound" portion. Did ALL of that already. |
| [02:42:53] | bluef0x: | the w thing with modprobe.conf |
| [02:42:55] | defaultro: | we are just in the tutorial baby |
| [02:43:02] | defaultro: | slow down |
| [02:43:07] | bluef0x: | k |
| [02:43:08] | defaultro: | :) |
| [02:43:14] | bluef0x: | i quit |
| [02:43:24] | defaultro: | you have to find out first if there is content on /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [02:43:24] | mchou: | awa64: then post mixer settings in pastebin |
| [02:43:29] | awa64: | okay |
| [02:43:33] | bluef0x: | yes default |
| [02:43:35] | bluef0x: | i added the lines |
| [02:43:40] | bluef0x: | to that file |
| [02:43:42] | defaultro: | bluefox ls -r /etc/modprobe* |
| [02:44:06] | defaultro: | did you say, you modified /etc/modprobe.conf already? |
| [02:44:07] | bluef0x: | no such file or directory |
| [02:44:09] | awa64: | which program should I use to get pasteable settings--I've been using alsamixer. |
| [02:44:16] | bluef0x: | well i opened that file with your instructions |
| [02:44:17] | defaultro: | bluefox, what distro? |
| [02:44:23] | defaultro: | let's do it this way |
| [02:44:24] | bluef0x: | but i saved it to test.txt |
| [02:44:25] | defaultro: | slow down |
| [02:44:29] | defaultro: | exactlly |
| [02:44:30] | bluef0x: | like you said |
| [02:44:33] | defaultro: | i was just teaching you |
| [02:44:40] | defaultro: | don't rant on me |
| [02:44:42] | defaultro: | :P |
| [02:44:44] | bluef0x: | im not |
| [02:44:47] | bluef0x: | just explaining :) |
| [02:44:49] | defaultro: | i was kidding |
| [02:44:51] | defaultro: | cd /etc |
| [02:44:56] | mchou: | awa64: 'amixer scontents' |
| [02:45:01] | defaultro: | then ls mod* |
| [02:45:01] | bluef0x: | k |
| [02:45:09] | awa64: | ok |
| [02:45:10] | defaultro: | tell me if it returns anything |
| [02:45:17] | defaultro: | or ls mod*.conf |
| [02:45:28] | defaultro: | make sure you are in /etc |
| [02:45:31] | bluef0x: | modprobe.conf modprobe.conf- modprobe.conf.bak modprobe.conf.dist modprobe.d |
| [02:45:33] | defaultro: | what is your distro? |
| [02:45:36] | defaultro: | sweet |
| [02:45:39] | defaultro: | it's there |
| [02:45:48] | defaultro: | since you are in /etc, do this, vi modprobe.conf |
| [02:45:55] | defaultro: | then retype the things you want to add |
| [02:46:00] | bluef0x: | i tried to modprobe something earlier but nothing happened, not sure how to use modprobe ;/ |
| [02:46:03] | defaultro: | or if you don't want to type |
| [02:46:11] | mchou: | defaultro: please use PM with bluef0x |
| [02:46:16] | defaultro: | k |
| [02:46:22] | mchou: | defaultro: you're spamming the channel |
| [02:46:25] | defaultro: | LO |
| [02:46:26] | defaultro: | LOL |
| [02:46:35] | defaultro: | he's got 20 secs left |
| [02:46:56] | defaultro: | lol, Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, |
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| [02:47:07] | defaultro: | let me fix it :) |
| [02:47:21] | defaultro: | but bluefox, you know what to do right? |
| [02:47:26] | bluef0x: | so when i do :w |
| [02:47:30] | ** coolego1-Awa is crying because he broke his Xserver ** | |
| [02:47:31] | bluef0x: | wut do i save to |
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| [02:47:34] | bluef0x: | modprobe.conf? |
| [02:47:37] | defaultro: | nope |
| [02:48:03] | defaultro: | do this, vi /etc/modprobe.conf, add the things you want then press colon, then type wq! |
| [02:48:12] | defaultro: | oops |
| [02:48:12] | mchou: | awa64: where is it? |
| [02:48:27] | awa64: | couldn't find "pastebin" because I was searching for "pastebox". |
| [02:48:29] | awa64: | gimme a sec. |
| [02:48:35] | bluef0x: | k |
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| [02:48:41] | bluef0x: | i saved it, thanks a lot |
| [02:48:42] | defaultro: | go to INSERT mode first by pressing i then once done, press Esc key, then shift colon, wq! |
| [02:48:49] | bluef0x: | yeah i got it :) |
| [02:48:53] | defaultro: | cool man |
| [02:49:01] | defaultro: | but please, follow that link i gave you |
| [02:49:04] | awa64: | http://pastebin.com/715839 |
| [02:49:08] | bluef0x: | i bookmarked it |
| [02:49:20] | defaultro: | bluefox, i don't want you coming back here, how do I delete a line :P |
| [02:49:40] | mchou: | awa64: which 'line' is tuner sound attached to snd card? |
| [02:49:45] | defaultro: | or why does ctrl+c, ctrl+v doesn't work :P |
| [02:49:51] | bluef0x: | when u want to run a program in konsole , because i want to run ndiswrapper , what do i do? |
| [02:49:54] | awa64: | "line," I think. |
| [02:50:00] | bluef0x: | ahah i still press ctrl + v every now and then |
| [02:50:03] | defaultro: | no idea |
| [02:50:07] | defaultro: | lol |
| [02:50:10] | bluef0x: | but ill probably go to windows pressing shift+ insert |
| [02:50:17] | defaultro: | yes |
| [02:50:21] | defaultro: | shift insert |
| [02:50:26] | defaultro: | only if you are ssh via putty |
| [02:50:31] | defaultro: | or telnet |
| [02:50:41] | awa64: | yeah, line. |
| [02:50:43] | defaultro: | but if you are directly on linux, i don't know if it will work |
| [02:50:49] | defaultro: | i don't think it will |
| [02:51:10] | defaultro: | guys, got to do some painting |
| [02:51:18] | bluef0x: | thx man |
| [02:51:21] | defaultro: | mchou, i'm going to research about Joliet |
| [02:51:24] | defaultro: | np |
| [02:51:34] | defaultro: | I'll keep you apprised |
| [02:51:36] | mchou: | awa64: dude, dont be an ass. you need to set the 'Capture' line to 'on' |
| [02:51:49] | defaultro: | awa64, one tip though |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | awa64: it's 'off' in pastebin |
| [02:52:08] | defaultro: | open the case, make sure that wire you are connected is the correct capture port |
| [02:52:15] | awa64: | alsamixer shows it as set to line. |
| [02:52:15] | defaultro: | It happened to me last month |
| [02:52:23] | awa64: | that's what I'd been using the entire time to set that stuff. |
| [02:52:39] | mchou: | awa64: huh?? |
| [02:52:48] | mchou: | awa64: set what stuff? |
| [02:52:49] | awa64: | oh, god, you mean... |
| [02:52:54] | awa64: | I had "capture" muted? |
| [02:53:01] | awa64: | THAT'S the problem? |
| [02:53:03] | mchou: | awa64: yup. Dumbass |
| [02:53:06] | bluef0x: | one quick question, will those ati drivers from ati.com for the 8500LE work with mythtv? |
| [02:53:56] | bluef0x: | im going to go watch Lost, my neck hurts from sitting on this floor all day :) |
| [02:54:14] | jerky_2: | bluef0x, only one way to find out... try them and let us know |
| [02:54:35] | jerky_2: | i think nvidia cards are more common among linux and mythtv users, especially HD users |
| [02:54:37] | mchou: | awa64: line 124–129 |
| [02:54:50] | awa64: | ok |
| [02:55:10] | awa64: | Alsamixer gives no indication that it's off, and doesn't present a way for me to turn it on. |
| [02:55:19] | mchou: | awa64: fsck |
| [02:55:29] | mchou: | awa64: go READ alsamixer docs |
| [02:55:35] | awa64: | ok |
| [02:55:45] | bluef0x: | k, although i probably wouldnt get myth to work with an nvidia card either :P |
| [02:56:25] | jerky_2: | i've been impressed with the improvements NVIDIA made with the 8762 driver release |
| [02:58:35] | awa64: | ok, that did it. Thanks, man. |
| [02:59:03] | mchou: | awa64: reading is fundamental. |
| [02:59:16] | jerky_2: | hooray, another mythTV user happy, another xp MCE install avoided |
| [02:59:23] | awa64: | OK. |
| [03:00:13] | awa64: | here's one that might not be in there that you may or may not be able to help with--video output is off-center, too far down and to the right. |
| [03:00:20] | awa64: | The offset commands don't do anything. |
| [03:00:30] | awa64: | er... not commands, settings. |
| [03:00:46] | awa64: | And there's this weird-lookin' series of white dashes along the very top of the screen. |
| [03:00:51] | awa64: | Any idea how to get rid of 'em? |
| [03:01:27] | mchou: | awa64: that's normal |
| [03:01:27] | jerky_2: | i have that too on non-HD broadcasts that i get over the air, they seem to be an error on the broadcaster's end |
| [03:01:47] | mchou: | that's not an "error" |
| [03:01:48] | awa64: | That's normal? |
| [03:01:54] | mchou: | that's line 21 |
| [03:02:15] | mchou: | used for vbi and closed captioning and what not |
| [03:02:37] | awa64: | So how do I get it offscreen? |
| [03:02:44] | mchou: | turn on overscan if you are so bothered by it |
| [03:03:03] | awa64: | ok |
| [03:04:03] | mchou: | awa64, jerky_2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIA-608 |
| [03:06:49] | awa64: | cool to know |
| [03:09:27] | jerky_2: | ah, i was not aware of that. thanks |
| [03:17:36] | awa64: | OK. Myth's set up... now, if I can get my printer and scanner set up, and find an iTunes-esque way to keep my iPod up to date, I'm good to go. |
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| [03:27:18] | marmoset: | awa64: gtkpod is like itunes, but it drove me crazy. I was much happier with the command line gnupod |
| [03:27:35] | marmoset: | itunes drives me crazy to, so take that fwiw ;) |
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| [03:28:46] | awa64_: | I said I was looking at crossoveroffice. That gets me kicked? |
| [03:28:53] | awa64_: | :) |
| [03:29:05] | marmoset: | awa64_: I think you just timed out for some reason |
| [03:29:12] | marmoset: | <marmoset> awa64: gtkpod is like itunes, but it drove me crazy. I was much happier with the command line gnupod |
| [03:29:12] | marmoset: | <marmoset> itunes drives me crazy to, so take that fwiw ;) |
| [03:29:15] | awa64_: | yeah, I did on Nightstar too. |
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| [03:30:08] | awa64_: | gtkpod do video and podcasts? |
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| [03:30:57] | marmoset: | dunno, I only used it for a day or two before I gave up |
| [03:31:00] | fatmatt: | gtkpod doesn't do podcasts as far as I can tell, you need something else to grab the podcasts. ipodder |
| [03:31:10] | awa64_: | rats. |
| [03:31:12] | fatmatt: | not sure about video, but I doubt it. |
| [03:31:21] | awa64_: | CrossoverOffice looks like the way to go, then. |
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| [03:31:38] | awa64_: | recommended torrent apps? I'm looking at torrentflux... |
| [03:31:46] | marmoset: | gui or console? |
| [03:31:54] | fatmatt: | bittornado does me fine |
| [03:32:12] | awa64_: | Closest to uTorrent possible. |
| [03:32:20] | marmoset: | never used it |
| [03:32:27] | awa64_: | ever use Azureus? |
| [03:32:32] | marmoset: | yeah |
| [03:32:39] | marmoset: | but not much, prefer console ;) |
| [03:32:47] | Agrajag-: | i use and like azureus |
| [03:32:49] | marmoset: | azureus works under linux |
| [03:32:49] | awa64_: | uTorrent is like Azureus but streamlined. |
| [03:32:58] | awa64_: | And without the 100+mb footprint. |
| [03:33:04] | marmoset: | well, "works" because it's java |
| [03:33:34] | awa64_: | Any experience here with a program called TorrentFlux? |
| [03:37:18] | awa64_: | OK, if anyone cares, or can offer input, here's what I'm trying to do with my Linux box. |
| [03:37:51] | awa64_: | I just got a laptop. XP-based. Not really much choice on changing it. |
| [03:38:03] | awa64_: | I still have the desktop, but its specs aren't nearly as good as the laptop's anyway. |
| [03:38:28] | awa64_: | I go off to college soon, and I do want to take both of them with me--and I'm thinking I might want to use the desktop as a server. |
| [03:39:03] | awa64_: | MythTV just makes sense--I replace a bulky 19" CRT with a 17" flatpanel, and get DVR in return. |
| [03:39:58] | awa64_: | The stuff I kinda want/need it to do past that is act as a central hub. |
| [03:40:38] | awa64_: | Plug in my iPod to synch it, handle .torrent downloads so I don't have to leave my laptop on, print server, scanner, and place to back up files to. That kind of thing. |
| [03:41:02] | awa64_: | At this point, I'm almost definitely going to have to add a new HDD and tuner card if I want to use it seriously as a file server AND a mythbox. |
| [03:41:23] | awa64_: | And as a TV, for that matter--the tuner card I have now can't really pull off console video games. |
| [03:41:28] | marmoset: | awa64_: if the desktop is going to be a server, I'd recommend looking at console apps rather than gui apps, so that you can easily manage them without vnc or plugging in a monitor or whatever |
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| [03:42:06] | elg: | can anyone help me figure out the pins on a radioshack IR receiver (276–640) |
| [03:42:12] | awa64_: | well, it's a server, but not a server-server. From the fact that it's running mythTV, it has to have a monitor, and I'll have physical access to it most of the time. |
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| [03:42:55] | marmoset: | awa64_: yeah, but if you're going to be running mythtv, having to exit out of that to run graphical apps to do things like manage torrents is kind of a bummer |
| [03:43:09] | marmoset: | ssh into it and do it that way, much easier, imo |
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| [03:43:26] | awa64_: | I'm thinking of using Torrentflux, actually. |
| [03:43:27] | awa64_: | http://www.torrentflux.com/ |
| [03:43:49] | jerky_2: | you can also use a dual monitor solution, that's what i do, have myth control the plasma TV as display 0 and then use display 1 for other general linux things |
| [03:43:51] | marmoset: | sure, if that works for you |
| [03:44:01] | awa64_: | No second monitor, jerky. |
| [03:44:17] | awa64_: | I guess so. The other thing I'm considering--is there a way I could patch a USB port across a network? |
| [03:45:20] | awa64_: | Or am I the first person insane enough to want that feature? |
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| [03:56:59] | radi0head: | Anyone here got any ideas how to fix the audio "static" problem using a VIA KT333 Chipset + sounblaster audigy 2 zs + ATI tv wonder ? I read the entire mythtv mailing list to no avail. The only thing they suggested that worked is to get a hardware encoder or to change the soundcard. |
| [03:57:43] | radi0head: | MY next step is to try the audigy in another PCI slot to get another IRQ. |
| [03:59:06] | radi0head: | Oh, I also tried a soundblaster 5.1 and get the same result. BTW the ati tv wonder is plugged with the "audio cable" to the AUX of my audigy. |
| [04:00:13] | Dagmar: | A different PCI slot is about your only hope |
| [04:00:20] | radi0head: | Dagmar; Thank you. |
| [04:00:25] | Dagmar: | It's been my experience that when you've got a noisy VIA board the only option is to toss it |
| [04:00:34] | ** radi0head cries ** | |
| [04:00:35] | Dagmar: | Thank god it only affects older boards. |
| [04:01:00] | Dagmar: | I had that problem with my Athlon 900 |
| [04:01:06] | ** radi0head loves his A7V333 :( ** | |
| [04:01:19] | Dagmar: | I just had to disable EAX entirely on my SBLive card because turning it on just made a horrible scratching/grinding sound |
| [04:01:40] | radi0head: | I only get the "static" using mythtv though. |
| [04:01:48] | Dagmar: | Anything that tried to route sound through DMA in anything other than the most elementary fashion would screw right up |
| [04:01:54] | radi0head: | ANd my onboard sound card is disabled wit hthe jumper on the board. |
| [04:02:05] | Dagmar: | Why can't you use the onboard sound? |
| [04:02:18] | radi0head: | Because Imho, it sucks. |
| [04:02:45] | radi0head: | And I tried it a while ago, there is no "capture" stuff in alsamixer. |
| [04:02:51] | radi0head: | I played with it a lot. |
| [04:03:03] | radi0head: | I can't seem to figure out how to get the sound in sync. |
| [04:03:13] | Dagmar: | Man I don't get why people even try to use this with bt8x8 carsd |
| [04:03:15] | radi0head: | I got it on my soundblaster, and also, my audigy. |
| [04:03:32] | radi0head: | T ouse what? |
| [04:04:00] | Dagmar: | The bt8x8 cards were designed for watching TV. |
| [04:04:05] | Dagmar: | ...as in just watching TV. |
| [04:04:21] | Dagmar: | They weren't particularly designed with the idea in mind that anyone would bother trying to record anything. |
| [04:04:33] | radi0head: | Yeah, it works perfectly, apart from the static. |
| [04:04:45] | radi0head: | IT records fine. |
| [04:05:10] | Dagmar: | Are you trying to get sound from the tuner to come through DMA or are you patching it's output to the line input of your sound card? |
| [04:05:18] | radi0head: | I know it's a sucky card (the ati tv wonder that is) my My friend wasn't using it, and he gave it to me, so a free card is better than nothing, imho. |
| [04:06:20] | Dagmar: | I have *five* sub-$25 webcams. |
| [04:06:25] | radi0head: | Dagmar; I'm not using a 1/8 to 1/8 wire, i'm using an "audio cable" (YOu know for cdroms and stuff (don't know how it's called) |
| [04:06:26] | Dagmar: | All of them suck in the extreme. |
| [04:06:31] | Dagmar: | I can use three of them with Linux. |
| [04:06:38] | Dagmar: | Each of them took at least 20 man-hours to sort out. |
| [04:07:08] | Dagmar: | I would have been WAY better off just doing a little research and buying *one* $75 webcam that I know works |
| [04:07:11] | radi0head: | Eventhough I tried using a 1/8 to 1/8 from the audio out of the tv wonder, to the mic in of the sound card, and the exact same static happens. |
| [04:07:28] | Dagmar: | Don't patch line out to mic in |
| [04:07:36] | Dagmar: | You'll be forever having balance problems |
| [04:07:39] | radi0head: | I get the same result, static. |
| [04:07:50] | radi0head: | Presently i'm not. |
| [04:07:55] | Dagmar: | "line level" is one volt, plus or minus one volt. |
| [04:08:21] | Dagmar: | "mic level" tends to be a lot different from that |
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| [04:11:18] | radi0head: | Dagmar; I could try the onboard sound card again, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the sound from the recording instead of the direct sound. |
| [04:11:23] | radi0head: | So it's out of sync. |
| [04:13:21] | fatmatt: | radi0head: think you need to mute the input the audio is coming in on |
| [04:13:40] | radi0head: | fatmatt; I mute it, but then I can't find the capture. |
| [04:13:57] | fatmatt: | what are you using as a mixer? |
| [04:14:08] | radi0head: | It's plugged from the mobo's AUX to the ati tv wonder. |
| [04:14:14] | radi0head: | alsamixer |
| [04:14:17] | radi0head: | alsamixer -V all |
| [04:14:30] | fatmatt: | just a sec, I'll check what my config uses. |
| [04:14:59] | radi0head: | fatmatt; WHich module are you using from the onboard soundcard? snd-cmipci? |
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| [04:15:44] | asd26: | mythfilldatabase downloads foxtel and pay televison data? |
| [04:16:26] | fatmatt: | I've got a sb and onboard sound in there.... been years (literally) since I set that card up I'm checking |
| [04:16:43] | radi0head: | Ah, then you'll have totally different mixer. |
| [04:16:50] | radi0head: | Anyone here using snd-cmipci? |
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| [04:17:36] | fatmatt: | Card: SiS SI7012 ││ Chip: Analog Devices AD1980 |
| [04:17:41] | mchou: | radi0head: there is your problem right there |
| [04:17:47] | radi0head: | mchou; ? |
| [04:17:52] | mchou: | radi0head: crappy sound card. |
| [04:18:01] | mchou: | not real full duplex |
| [04:18:13] | mchou: | which explains the static |
| [04:18:21] | radi0head: | mchou; You mean the soundblaster 5.1, the audigy 2 ZS, or the onboard snd-cmipci? |
| [04:18:34] | mchou: | snd-cmipci |
| [04:18:40] | radi0head: | I never tried the snd-cmipci |
| [04:18:54] | radi0head: | the static I have is using soundblaster, 5.1/audigy2 zs |
| [04:18:57] | mchou: | radi0head: well, it sucks |
| [04:19:20] | radi0head: | mchou; Tell me about it. |
| [04:19:26] | mchou: | radi0head: get another card other than those crappy ones :) |
| [04:19:36] | radi0head: | mchou; WHich would be..? |
| [04:19:42] | asd26: | i have one and it works..lol |
| [04:19:51] | radi0head: | asd26; You have what? |
| [04:19:51] | mchou: | radi0head: especially if you have a via mobo |
| [04:20:05] | mchou: | radi0head: where you live? |
| [04:20:10] | radi0head: | mchou; Montreal. |
| [04:20:10] | asd26: | snd-cmipci ..PCI sound card |
| [04:20:21] | radi0head: | asd26; It's not onboard right? PIC? |
| [04:20:25] | radi0head: | PCI* |
| [04:20:25] | asd26: | it's really slow but, but it works on |
| [04:20:30] | asd26: | not onboard |
| [04:20:32] | mchou: | radi0head: well, I dunno what's avail over there |
| [04:20:32] | radi0head: | k |
| [04:20:37] | asd26: | on PCI card |
| [04:20:51] | radi0head: | mchou; Everything is available. |
| [04:21:32] | mchou: | radi0head: then go to a electronics surplus place, pick out a used sound card for $5:) |
| [04:22:03] | mchou: | cs46xx or au8830 are both good choices |
| [04:22:25] | radi0head: | Oh I had a question, let's say I run a mythbackend, and I have different computers on the same networks, I can connect to the backend with a frontend, but let's say I am not on my network, but on the net (broadband) can I connect to my mythbackend and watch TV from there? |
| [04:22:37] | asd26: | i selected free to air and mythfill is downloading all the pay tv guides..lol |
| [04:23:21] | radi0head: | Or does it work only if you're on the same network as the backend is? |
| [04:25:08] | radi0head: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ster;#144934 This is my problem. Perfectly explained. |
| [04:27:28] | radi0head: | Could it be the bttv modules "tuner=" option ? I don't know which to choose for my ATI TV Wonder (It's supposed to be ntsc) I tried /sbin/modprobe bttv card=63 tuner=36/2/and the default one: 19 (Which is PAL so I'm pretty sure it's not that one) |
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| [04:29:25] | asd26: | i got another DTV card today now i have twin tuners |
| [04:29:57] | radi0head: | Like that guys said: "(just to be clear, i have static over the normal sound, not complete static)" I can hear the sound perfectly, it's just that I have a _bit_ of static (crackles and pops) |
| [04:31:53] | radi0head: | Okay, time to try another PCI slot. brb. |
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| [04:40:27] | awa64_: | okay. Got a Myth problem. |
| [04:41:11] | awa64_: | Accidentally chose the "Compact-wide" theme. Can't get to appearance menu to change it back. There some kind of parameter I can apply when starting mythfrontend to change to a different theme? |
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| [04:48:30] | awa64_: | anything? |
| [04:52:14] | Dagmar: | OH GOD NEW KERNEL |
| [04:52:17] | Dagmar: | run for the hills! |
| [04:53:24] | awa64_: | ...? |
| [04:54:01] | awa64_: | question--is there a way I can reset my mythtv theme without a) reinstalling or b) installing mythweb? |
| [04:55:30] | Dagmar: | You can probably go poke at the database |
| [04:55:46] | Dagmar: | I'm pretty sure it stores the theme choise in there somewhere or other |
| [04:55:58] | ** awa64_ feels like he's about to go perform brain surgery with a fork ** | |
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| [04:57:53] | metalac: | where can i get a sample lircrc file? the one on wiki is missing |
| [04:58:41] | Dagmar: | http://www.vulturesnest.net/mythtvremote.html |
| [04:59:11] | Dagmar: | I just finished wading through reprogramming all the @#$@ buttons on mine |
| [04:59:38] | Dagmar: | I begin to think maybe getting an eeprom and a cable to solder into this sucker isn't a bad investment in time if I ever have to do that again |
| [05:00:50] | ** awa64_ realizes he doesn't actually know how to get the brain open to poke it with a fork in the first place ** | |
| [05:03:11] | awa64_: | so... where do I find the mythtv config database to poke around in? |
| [05:03:40] | awa64_: | in /var/lib/mysql/something? |
| [05:03:54] | Dagmar: | Use mysqlclient |
| [05:04:01] | Dagmar: | Don't go trying to tinker those files with vim or something. |
| [05:04:02] | awa64_: | ok. That helps a lot. |
| [05:04:05] | Dagmar: | That would be, um, bad. |
| [05:04:35] | coolego1: | I broke my XServer so that the TV out won't work and I don't have a monitor. When I restart the computer, it crashes when trying to open the xserver. is this something I have a chance at fixing or should I just reformat now? |
| [05:05:07] | awa64_: | do I need to install mysqlclient seperately or something? |
| [05:06:13] | Dagmar: | er... forgot it's not named that anymore |
| [05:06:25] | Dagmar: | It's just called 'mysql' now |
| [05:06:27] | awa64_: | ok |
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| [05:07:11] | Dagmar: | coolego1: If your distro wasn't crazy, after a few times failing it should just drop back to runlevel 3 (non-graphical) |
| [05:07:23] | coolego1: | I can ssh in, but that's not the issue |
| [05:07:28] | coolego1: | I don't know what to do to fix it |
| [05:07:37] | Dagmar: | ...but if you've got no useable display on the thing, you have a Problem. |
| [05:07:46] | Dagmar: | To fix what? The X server? |
| [05:07:58] | coolego1: | yeah |
| [05:08:01] | coolego1: | so that it does TV out |
| [05:08:03] | metalac: | if i make changes to lircrc do i need to restart backend or just the frontend? |
| [05:08:27] | Dagmar: | You should be able to fix the X server while you're ssh'd in |
| [05:08:51] | Dagmar: | The backend has no interaction with lirc |
| [05:08:58] | coolego1: | well, I can read the xorg.conf, but that doesn't mean I can do anything |
| [05:09:34] | coolego1: | I don't really know what I'm doing. I think I got lucky when it was working before |
| [05:09:51] | Dagmar: | This is why Google exists. |
| [05:09:52] | Dagmar: | :) |
| [05:10:26] | coolego1: | see, i had it working this morning, but then I switched power supplies and it lost the AGP card... It booted with the integrated graphics and lost the settings from the AGP. I got the AGP back in and recognized, but that didn't change the configuration |
| [05:10:53] | coolego1: | I checked google and tried to use someone else's config to rebuild my own, but it doesn't seem to have worked |
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| [05:13:40] | ** awa64_ finally realizes that he probably ought to open a particular database rather than just the command "mysql" and the password... then realizes he has no idea where the database file is. ** | |
| [05:14:45] | coolego1: | I knew I should have backed up the xorg.conf file this morning... |
| [05:15:16] | Dagmar: | awa64_: mythconverg |
| [05:15:24] | Dagmar: | Should really be the only database there. heh |
| [05:15:50] | awa64_: | ok |
| [05:16:29] | coolego1: | the weird thing is that the TV will display the nvidia logo about 3 times and then the X server crashes |
| [05:16:51] | Dagmar: | coolego1: You may find http://blairhouse.homeip.net/~dagmar/xorg.conf useful then |
| [05:18:05] | awa64_: | weird--still can't quite figure out how to find anything to edit, even having done that. |
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| [05:24:58] | radi0head: | I managed to get my snd-cmipci working. |
| [05:25:23] | radi0head: | But I get a weird "hiss" sound, Like if the potentiometer would be too high. |
| [05:25:35] | radi0head: | But the sound is not loud. |
| [05:27:03] | radi0head: | At least there are no "crackles/pops" :D |
| [05:27:10] | coolego1: | the text-only terminal comes out on the TV, by the way |
| [05:27:16] | coolego1: | but the xserver won't run |
| [05:29:09] | metalac: | anoyne here using irtrans ??? |
| [05:29:21] | metalac: | i'm trying to figure out how to learn the remote codes |
| [05:29:41] | metalac: | i got it to print out raw codes on the screen, but no t sure how to have it know what each button is |
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| [05:33:03] | scales: | hello again gentlemen, i was just curious is there any one popular remote control ( any type from ir to rf) that has a lot of support and is widely used? |
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| [05:43:20] | scales: | ok well tomorrow then |
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| [05:45:45] | GreyFoxx: | That doesn't stop it from having a problem :)yn]]bgv k |
| [05:45:55] | GreyFoxx: | oops stupid cut n paste |
| [06:09:02] | metalac: | hmm so i figured a way to learn codes but mythtv is not seeing them |
| [06:09:05] | metalac: | any clue what might be up? |
| [06:09:21] | metalac: | i added lircrc to ~/.mythtv |
| [06:09:31] | metalac: | no clue what's going on |
| [06:12:27] | metalac: | i guess a restart did it :) |
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| [06:35:09] | sloncho: | hi. trying to install mythtv on ubuntu 6.06. I have a problem with mythfilldatabase. When I run it, it dlds the schedule, and then starts to produce tons of errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15887 |
| [06:36:00] | sloncho: | how do I proceed? |
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| [06:57:18] | Anduin: | sloncho: Use a newer, fixed, version of myth with that fancy version of mysql |
| [06:58:36] | sloncho: | Anduin: do u know if someone have prepared packages already? or to go the compile path? Also, do you know if 0.19 will support mysql 5.0? |
| [06:59:36] | Anduin: | sloncho: 0.19-fixes supports mysql 5, 0.19 may, but you should care about -fixes more. I have no clue about ubuntu packages. |
| [07:00:32] | sloncho: | Anduin: thanks, I'll go with it |
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| [07:12:23] | sloncho: | Anduin: where from I get -fixes? In the dld section on mythtv site I see only 0.19 |
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| [08:09:09] | joker5133: | anyone know why when i type in xvinfo i get "screen #0 no adaptors present" |
| [08:09:14] | joker5133: | ? |
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| [08:20:27] | Octane: | 9y |
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| [08:22:52] | LoneShadow: | anyone using zoran/miro dc10 mpeg card ? |
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| [09:00:10] | asd26: | dudes |
| [09:00:24] | asd26: | connecting two DTV cards seems to break the signal |
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| [09:19:39] | asd26: | is there a secret to get both captures working? |
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| [11:10:43] | Coume: | morning |
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| [11:13:37] | fatmatt: | I'm slightly impressed with ubuntu, been setting it up on my laptop, no need to add extra sources as with debian so far.... |
| [11:14:19] | achew22: | fatmatt, did you add multiverse? |
| [11:14:39] | fatmatt: | yeah, just installed mythfrontend, nice and simple |
| [11:14:46] | Mattwj2005: | the only problem is the ubuntu the distro only has source with the old packages |
| [11:14:50] | Mattwj2005: | 18.1 |
| [11:15:04] | Mattwj2005: | not 19.1....but it is real easy to install :) |
| [11:15:07] | fatmatt: | at the moment my backend is still 0.18 so thats cool |
| [11:15:16] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay cool cool |
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| [11:16:22] | Mattwj2005: | I am hoping to go HDTV within a month |
| [11:16:28] | fatmatt: | debian was a huge step up in usability for me from redhat when I did that a number of years ago, ubuntu is making all the fiddly stuff I had to do on the laptop with debian unnecessary |
| [11:16:29] | achew22: | fatmatt, if you want a nice little tutorial I would check out http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html its an exelent tutorial if you want things up quickly |
| [11:16:33] | Mattwj2005: | *fingers crossed* |
| [11:17:16] | achew22: | mattwj2005 what are you doing? |
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| [11:18:48] | Mattwj2005: | well I have a pretty slow system 1.2 Ghz Celeron, 384 MB of memory, 80 GB HD, and I just ordered a GeForce FX 5200 |
| [11:19:27] | psofa: | Mattwj2005, ewww you hope to get hdtv with the 1.2ghz celeron? |
| [11:19:39] | Mattwj2005: | and within a week or two I am going to order a PC-HDTV.....I am not sure if my 1.2 Ghz Celeron is going to be able to play HD....but I have a 3.3 Ghz laptop that should be able to |
| [11:19:47] | fatmatt: | maybe if its all done in hardware, what tuner card? |
| [11:19:48] | achew22: | good luck — you will get sdtv but probably not hd |
| [11:20:42] | fatmatt: | I'm using one of the twinhan cards at the moment, HD is impossible with a 2.4Ghz cel |
| [11:21:01] | Mattwj2005: | Here is what I found on the wiki " 1 Ghz AMD TBird 256MB DDR 64MB GeForce4 MX 440 HD (1080i) 65–70% 100% Bob Bob LFS & compiled .19 fixes branch OSD is in B&W, but 1080 is smooth and watchable, with the occasional stutter when switching channels on live, or the OSD is on. Frontend still complains of the occasional prebuffer pause. Without XvMC, HD stutters a lot." |
| [11:21:23] | Mattwj2005: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC .... Hopefully if he can do it so can I |
| [11:21:30] | Mattwj2005: | :) |
| [11:21:45] | fatmatt: | hmmm... maybe I'm not using Xvmc |
| [11:21:52] | Mattwj2005: | PC-HDTV 5500 |
| [11:22:02] | psofa: | Mattwj2005, an 1 ghz tbird is way faster than your celeron |
| [11:22:34] | Mattwj2005: | really? crap |
| [11:22:39] | fatmatt: | not that it matters, my tv is adequate for SD but thats probably about all |
| [11:23:58] | Mattwj2005: | well if nothing else I can use my laptop at as frontend...my 1.2 Ghz Celeron should at least be able to record HDTV...just not necessary play it back |
| [11:24:59] | Mattwj2005: | the only thing that sucks about my laptop is it has an ATI card in it...but here are the specs |
| [11:26:19] | Mattwj2005: | 3.3 Ghz P4 M with HT, 1 GB of RAM, 100 GB HD, DVD-R/RW, 802.11b/g wireless, widescreen display capable of displaying 720p resolutions natively |
| [11:26:55] | Mattwj2005: | the graphics card is an ATI Radeon Moblile 9000 |
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| [11:27:24] | Zider: | 3,3GHz laptop? niiiice.. :D |
| [11:27:33] | asd26: | does one need two guides? for twin tuners? |
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| [11:28:17] | gardengnome: | Zider: no, not really. most likely draining its battery in 5 minutes while causing your sperm to boil. |
| [11:28:24] | Zider: | hehe |
| [11:28:25] | Mattwj2005: | thanks Zider....sorry guys...I didn't mean to flood the channel |
| [11:28:35] | Zider: | gardengnome: not necessarily.. :) |
| [11:28:38] | gardengnome: | asd26: no, you can bind one videosource to multiple tuners |
| [11:29:14] | asd26: | oh crap i created two sources |
| [11:29:21] | Mattwj2005: | hey any of you guys know if the analog channels of the pcHDTV-5500 has hardware encoding? |
| [11:29:39] | asd26: | gardengnome so i didn't really need to tune my 2nd capture card? |
| [11:30:02] | gardengnome: | asd26: #define tune |
| [11:31:09] | asd26: | getting channels |
| [11:31:46] | asd26: | how do bind a videosource to muiltple tuners? |
| [11:31:54] | gardengnome: | no, not if you have the same channel lineup for both tuners. |
| [11:32:29] | gardengnome: | asd26: gee, just bind your video source to the input of your capture card. mythtv-setup -> input connections i think |
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| [11:32:52] | asd26: | ahh ok |
| [11:32:56] | asd26: | i'll see what i can do |
| [11:33:37] | styrmis: | On a Gentoo system, when I restart the net interface (via an init script), mythbackend is restarted too (also via an init script). I've removed all dependencies of mythbackend, but it still insists on restarting mythbackend. Any ideas? |
| [11:34:08] | fatmatt: | wheres the mythbackend init script? |
| [11:34:44] | styrmis: | fatmatt: /etc/init.d/ |
| [11:35:47] | fatmatt: | weird, you could chmod -x it, but then you couldn't start it when you want, or just move it, restart the network interface from a terminal screen and check the error message |
| [11:36:35] | fatmatt: | does a net restart restart everythign in init.d ? |
| [11:36:48] | styrmis: | There's no error afaik, it all works perfectly. The issue is that I really don't want to restart mythbackend when I restart the net interface. |
| [11:37:11] | styrmis: | Restarting the net interface restarts things like sshd, apache2 etc. i.e. only those which need a net connection |
| [11:37:51] | fatmatt: | if you remove the mythbackend startup script from init.d/ then you will get an error message that might help you figure it out |
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| [11:38:24] | fatmatt: | anyway, thats what I'd do |
| [11:39:01] | styrmis: | Actually, yeah I will give that a go. Thanks |
| [11:39:03] | TruBL_: | can anyone recommend a method of testing my DVB-T card independent of MythTV ? |
| [11:39:40] | TruBL_: | It is supported out of the box with the kernel I am using ... but I need to test that it actually works |
| [11:40:04] | Mattwj2005: | anyone use MythTV on OpenSuse? |
| [11:40:39] | fatmatt: | umm, maybe, cat /dev/dvb0 > test.mpg then try and play the file? maybe... |
| [11:41:28] | fatmatt: | cat whatever the dvb device is anyway, should say somewher in dmesg? I think... |
| [11:41:41] | fatmatt: | or I think xine has dvb support |
| [11:42:38] | fatmatt: | yeah, xine has a dvb button on it. |
| [11:43:38] | TruBL_: | mmm .... so how to I tell my application to "tap" into my DVB-T stream from my antenna ? |
| [11:44:32] | fatmatt: | xine should be able to figure that out for itself. Apart from that, depends on the app. |
| [11:44:37] | fatmatt: | bbl |
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| [11:54:20] | jvs: | could smbdy with a pvr-250 or similar do me a favor and enter this command "ivtvctl -d 0 -Y" to see what the setting for volume is? |
| [11:55:47] | Juski: | just do ivtvctl – that'll show the syntax of the command |
| [11:56:39] | jvs: | Juski, I know the syntax |
| [11:56:41] | Juski: | anyway I've got Volume = 52224 here |
| [11:56:44] | jvs: | just want to know your setting |
| [11:56:45] | jvs: | oh thanks |
| [11:56:56] | Juski: | mythtv sets it anyway |
| [11:57:02] | Juski: | in your recording profiles |
| [11:57:13] | jvs: | Juski, I understand, thanks |
| [11:57:37] | Juski: | fairy snuff ;-) |
| [11:57:43] | jvs: | it was set at 45000 here and I could not hear hardly anything |
| [11:58:16] | Juski: | mine is at a kind of happy medium – some channels are much louder than others |
| [11:59:49] | TruBL_: | xine error: "cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd:/]" |
| [11:59:50] | styrmis: | Any Gentoo Myth users on just now? |
| [11:59:54] | TruBL_: | any ideas ? |
| [12:00:16] | jvs: | styrmis, whassup? |
| [12:00:58] | styrmis: | jvs: I need to restart the wlan interface every few hours, but I can't stop mythbackend from depending on it and therefore restarting too (interrupting recording). |
| [12:01:32] | styrmis: | I've removed 'need net' from the mythbackend init script but somehow this has no effect. /etc/init.d/mythbackend ineed returns 'net' still |
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| [12:01:49] | Juski: | lesson to be learned here: don't use wireless |
| [12:02:03] | Juski: | or find out _why_ you need to restart the wlan interface |
| [12:02:09] | ** jvs has a nice wireless setup here ** | |
| [12:02:19] | styrmis: | Juski: Absolutely. Not my house though. |
| [12:02:22] | jvs: | my notebook allows me to watch everywhere in my flat |
| [12:02:23] | Juski: | fix the problem, don't work around the symptoms |
| [12:03:18] | jvs: | styrmis, try #gentoo-mythtv |
| [12:03:28] | styrmis: | jvs: will do. |
| [12:03:42] | jvs: | but there is hardly anybody on there |
| [12:03:57] | styrmis: | Juski: To fix the problem would require an ethernet-wifi bridge and they are quite expensive |
| [12:04:00] | Juski: | gentoo has a mythtv channel? |
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| [12:04:18] | jvs: | yeah :) |
| [12:04:33] | jvs: | I think Cardoe opened it |
| [12:04:35] | Juski: | styrmis: the main problem will be that if it's a remote frontend, it needs the network connection all the time |
| [12:05:19] | jvs: | styrmis, do you use an wlan router? |
| [12:05:27] | Juski: | it's alright dropping the connection to the backend while you're hanging around in menus, but the last thing you want is it going down when you watch a show |
| [12:06:28] | styrmis: | The backend and frontend are on the same machine, which unfortunately cannot be cabled. The wireless connection is for the grabber only |
| [12:06:46] | jvs: | if you use a wireless router you could use a wired connection from backend to router |
| [12:07:14] | jvs: | umm, that should be no problem |
| [12:07:37] | jvs: | I can restart the network connection on the backend without any further problems |
| [12:08:04] | styrmis: | jvs: It is a router connected to the machine. I'll try and pick up a bridge on ebay so that I can avoid these driver inadequacies. I just need a way to restart the connection without bringing the backend process down too |
| [12:08:13] | TruBL_: | I seriouly need a way to test my TV tuner card independent of MythTV. Can anyone recommed how to do this ? |
| [12:08:48] | jvs: | TruBL_, ptune-ui.pl and mplayer |
| [12:09:24] | Juski: | TruBL_: depends on what tuner card you have.. for software encoders using bttv, try tvtime or xawtv. for pvr cards, use cat /dev/video0 ... for dvb cards... tzap/szap/czap & cat /dev/dvb/dvr0 |
| [12:09:30] | jvs: | styrmis, here the backend is not dependent from network connection |
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| [12:10:56] | marc: | hello |
| [12:10:59] | styrmis: | jvs: Really? By default I have had that dependency. This is really a gentoo issue as I'm not understanding how modifying the init script has no effect. No answer on the #gentoo channel as yet |
| [12:11:01] | TruBL_: | Juski: Ok I am currently using tzap and it sucessfully gets a lock on a channel. But Have no clue how to tell mplayer to tap into the stream ? |
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| [12:11:32] | jvs: | styrmis, yes |
| [12:12:05] | i686|laptop: | hey all, question about my new mythtv box, i have it up and running, how ever, no matter which tv standard i choose it displays as black and white on the tv, any suggestions..? |
| [12:12:10] | jvs: | styrmis, I have a frontend backend machine here and I can restart the network service without interrupting myth |
| [12:12:36] | Delduil: | Anyone seen mythtv report that it is stopping a recording before it starts it and then it recording about 5 seconds of .mpg in a file it can't find in the watch recordings browser? |
| [12:12:59] | TruBL_: | Juski: once tzap is running, how do I tell mplayer to tap into the stream ? |
| [12:13:25] | Juski: | TruBL_: cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > test.mpg OR mplayer /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 |
| [12:14:08] | styrmis: | jvs: could you paste your mythbackend script please? I'm thinking of just not using the gentoo init script and instead start it 'manually'. Is that what you do? |
| [12:14:27] | Juski: | newer versions of xine-ui support dvb tuners AFAIK – I think you can put a channels.conf into ~/.xine directory & use it like that |
| [12:14:46] | Delduil: | I just upgraded to SuSE10.1 and mythtv doesn't seem to want to record any more, although it can watch live tv ... |
| [12:15:57] | Juski: | TruBL_: you can also to cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > test.mpg – then after a few seconds hit CTRL C and try to play the test.mpg file |
| [12:16:26] | Zider: | http://top.s3kr3t.info/dreamhack/original/IMG_0036.html – nice cooling :P |
| [12:16:28] | TruBL_: | Juski: cheers mate ! testing now ! |
| [12:16:43] | Juski: | Delduil: so in that case you CAN record. livetv _is_ recording |
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| [12:17:22] | Delduil: | So the problem isn't with the recording? |
| [12:17:22] | Juski: | Zider: I prefer the scottish cooling method... dunk everything into vegetable oil :-P |
| [12:17:35] | Zider: | ;) |
| [12:18:12] | Delduil: | I get these messages? |
| [12:18:12] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:06:11.571 Finished recording Keeping Up Appearances: channel 1004 |
| [12:18:12] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:06:11.574 Started recording: Keeping Up Appearances: channel 1004 on cardid 1, sourceid 1 |
| [12:18:32] | Juski: | oh you have mythtaste installed by accident |
| [12:18:38] | Delduil: | It finishes before it starts ... which is somewhat curious |
| [12:18:45] | Delduil: | mythtaste? |
| [12:18:56] | Juski: | yeh it decides it doesn't like what you want to record |
| [12:18:58] | Juski: | :-P |
| [12:19:13] | Juski: | it's gonna stop recording Dr Who for me that way |
| [12:19:37] | Delduil: | That was an example. It does that for everything. And funnily enough the first thing I noticed this on was last night on Dr Who ... |
| [12:19:48] | Juski: | Delduil: what if you schedule a recording manually? does it work then? |
| [12:20:00] | Delduil: | Let me see. |
| [12:20:09] | Juski: | I mean dont use the programme guide – just set it to record 5 mins on a channel |
| [12:20:47] | jvs: | styrmis, wait a mom |
| [12:20:53] | TruBL_: | Juski: Can you check this out: http://pastebin.com/716313 |
| [12:21:05] | TruBL_: | Juski: have you seen that error before ? |
| [12:21:27] | Juski: | TruBL_: looks like you have some missing libs |
| [12:21:31] | Juski: | try VLC player |
| [12:21:43] | TruBL_: | Juski: will do |
| [12:21:58] | Juski: | win32 codecs to play MPEG2 ts though... weird |
| [12:22:03] | marc: | does anyone know if Javascript.pm can be emerged on gentoo? i can't find it |
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| [12:22:16] | Delduil: | TVRec(1): Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
| [12:22:17] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:21:41.295 Channel::GetCurrentChannelNum(2): Failed to find Channel '2' |
| [12:22:17] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:21:41.295 Channel(/dev/video0)::TuneTo(2): Error, failed to find channel. |
| [12:22:17] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:21:41.295 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 2. Reverting to kState_None |
| [12:22:17] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:21:41.296 TVRec(1): Changing from RecordingOnly to None |
| [12:22:17] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:21:41.303 Finished recording Test (Manual Record) "Sun Jun 18 13:20:00 2006": channel 1006 |
| [12:22:19] | Delduil: | 2006-06–18 13:21:41.309 Started recording: Test (Manual Record) "Sun Jun 18 13:20:00 2006": channel 1006 on cardid 1, sourceid 1 |
| [12:22:23] | Juski: | flood! |
| [12:22:35] | jvs: | styrmis, I have been wrong :( it indeed needs net and gets restarted |
| [12:22:42] | jvs: | styrmis, I'm sorry, my fault |
| [12:22:51] | Juski: | Failed to find Channel '2'... that's a good clue, Delduil |
| [12:23:01] | Coume: | ok my 5.1 system which was 8y.o. seems to be dead for good :( |
| [12:23:17] | Coume: | hiya Juski :) |
| [12:23:19] | Delduil: | It never was able to change channels ... It is recording from the composite input |
| [12:23:21] | Juski: | awww Coume... |
| [12:23:40] | Juski: | Delduil: so set up some channels then |
| [12:23:48] | styrmis: | jvs: depscan.h -u updated it in the end |
| [12:23:50] | Coume: | Juski, that's to terminate my crappy week :) |
| [12:24:15] | jvs: | styrmis, working? |
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| [12:24:24] | Juski: | Coume: I've been to hell & back several times with this s100 box.. gonna cut my losses & copy the system to another box & netboot it |
| [12:24:31] | Juski: | to HELL with USB keys |
| [12:25:15] | styrmis: | jvs: Yes, no problems now |
| [12:25:16] | Coume: | Juski, so is it quiet a s100? |
| [12:25:27] | jvs: | styrmis, great, will have to remember this one |
| [12:25:39] | Juski: | Coume: fanless! |
| [12:25:58] | Coume: | Juski, eheh sounds good :) |
| [12:26:14] | Juski: | and I have another on the way... |
| [12:26:26] | Juski: | and now it's lunchytime :-) |
| [12:26:44] | Juski: | ready for this... mrs has had me DIYing again :-/ |
| [12:26:49] | Coume: | Juski, I'm installing gentoo on the pundit using the CF-to-IDE should be installed by tonight (depending on the compile times :) |
| [12:27:03] | Coume: | eheh another S100 for the bedroom ? |
| [12:28:01] | TruBL_: | Juski: This means I am tapping into a DVB-T signal right ? http://pastebin.com/716327 |
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| [12:31:41] | psofa: | TruBL_, yes |
| [12:32:14] | TruBL_: | Juski: [root@myth tmp]# du -hs test.mpg |
| [12:32:15] | TruBL_: | 0 test.mpg |
| [12:32:15] | TruBL_: | [root@myth tmp]# |
| [12:32:21] | TruBL_: | Juski: :( grrr ! |
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| [12:42:39] | dorel_1: | is it possible to prevent mythtv from runing a screen saver? |
| [12:49:01] | marc: | anyone using gentoo and tv_grab_au,v 1.57? |
| [12:49:49] | Juski: | re |
| [12:49:58] | gardengnome: | !trout Juski |
| [12:49:58] | ** MythLogBot slaps Juski with a trout on behalf of gardengnome... ** | |
| [12:50:04] | Juski: | Coume: we don't have telly in the bedroom |
| [12:50:20] | Juski: | gardengnome: just the man! what fs did you use for the DoM? |
| [12:51:23] | gardengnome: | Juski: ext3 i think, but ext2 should work fine. |
| [12:52:56] | Juski: | cool |
| [12:54:50] | dorel_1: | how do you guys disable the annoying blank screen (screensaver) |
| [12:55:27] | Juski: | disable DPMS & screensaver |
| [12:56:03] | dorel_1: | in mythtv's settings? |
| [12:56:07] | Juski: | no |
| [12:56:17] | dorel_1: | ahh :P |
| [12:56:18] | dorel_1: | where then? |
| [12:56:20] | Juski: | right I think my kernel's all set for netbooting |
| [12:56:27] | Juski: | dorel_1: X |
| [12:56:30] | i686|laptop: | hey all, i have a small prob with my mythtv box, it's displaying everything black and white through the tv out, i've tried a few TVStandard settings but no avail, any other ideas..? |
| [12:56:53] | Juski: | i686|laptop: wrong output format – i.e. svideo instead of composite, perhaps? |
| [12:57:16] | i686|laptop: | it's an svideo output.. |
| [12:57:33] | Juski: | going to what – a composite adapter? |
| [12:58:42] | dorel_1: | Juski: i found 'Option "DPMS"' in xorg.conf under the monitor section. that's all. just to comment it out? |
| [12:58:42] | i686|laptop: | video input on tv.. |
| [12:59:07] | Juski: | i686|laptop: composite input or svideo input, or SCART? |
| [12:59:24] | i686|laptop: | Juski: i've changed it to composite, i'll see how it goes.. |
| [13:00:47] | i686|laptop: | Juski: i'll be, it's labelled wrong in the video card docs, it's colour with Composite set in XFREE config.. :o |
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| [13:01:21] | richiefrich: | anyone know how to setup marco's in lirc ? |
| [13:02:46] | Juski: | what's a marco? |
| [13:03:27] | Juski: | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lirc+macro |
| [13:03:39] | gardengnome: | macro's what? |
| [13:03:51] | richiefrich: | so i can use to apps... like a button for a tv/dvd u can flip between them |
| [13:03:51] | i686|laptop: | macro macro man.. |
| [13:04:08] | Zider: | I wanna be a macro man |
| [13:04:19] | i686|laptop: | :D |
| [13:04:42] | Juski: | fave song of the moment.. "mister vista.. who do you think you are?" :-P |
| [13:05:23] | Juski: | gardengnome: copying vital directories over to my other box now :-) |
| [13:05:59] | i686|laptop: | heh, HDTV on a tiny 34cm tv.. :D |
| [13:06:13] | Juski: | over svideo? so it's not HDTV then |
| [13:06:41] | i686|laptop: | Juski: it was component, it's working perfect now.. :) |
| [13:06:53] | Juski: | composite, you mean.. even less like HDTV |
| [13:08:57] | Juski: | hey Coume: 5 weeks to go now! |
| [13:09:14] | Zider: | can't hdtv be pushed thru svideo? |
| [13:09:27] | Coume: | Juski, yep :) and want to have the frontend working before next week-end. |
| [13:09:50] | gardengnome: | Juski: good luck ;) |
| [13:10:38] | Juski: | Zider: you know fine well true HD can't be done over svideo ;-) |
| [13:10:53] | Juski: | svideo, composite == standard definition television |
| [13:11:30] | Zider: | Juski: I do? |
| [13:11:32] | Juski: | gardengnome: just copying the stuff – I can't remember what the hell to do with grub yet... |
| [13:11:38] | i686|laptop: | just a few things to do now, fix the tv_grab and setup samba.. |
| [13:11:41] | Juski: | Zider: you do now |
| [13:11:46] | Zider: | oh. ;) |
| [13:12:31] | Zider: | it just seems a bit strange, since I seem to be pushing 1024x768 thru my svideo cable here.. so hdtv should work too.. imo.. :P |
| [13:12:48] | marc: | yay, it's filling again |
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| [13:14:29] | Juski: | Zider: never mind your O... it's not HDTV unless HDMI/DVI/VGA/component |
| [13:15:25] | Zider: | it's just higher resolutions according to wikipedia tho.. |
| [13:15:37] | Juski: | so wikipedia is always right? |
| [13:15:43] | i686|laptop: | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5446075783964926845 |
| [13:15:58] | Zider: | so far they've been right when I looked up things there |
| [13:16:08] | Juski: | just cleaned out over 300GB of recordings :-P |
| [13:16:30] | Juski: | Zider: HDTV isn't all about resolution. there's bitdepth of colours to consider too |
| [13:17:49] | Juski: | and as far as VGA card TV outputs go – the tv encoder on the card scales (yes scales) the input to fit to the TV standard specified in the xorg.conf options... so even 1024x768 gets scaled to NTSC or PAL res |
| [13:18:16] | Juski: | if in doubt, get hold of a testcard & output it – see how many lines you can count on the TV |
| [13:19:24] | Zider: | so how come there's "hdtv" output standards..? |
| [13:19:55] | Juski: | you won't get that over an svideo output though |
| [13:20:39] | Zider: | I mean, if I only have svideo output, why can I choose hdtv output standards? |
| [13:20:46] | Zider: | bad design? |
| [13:20:56] | Juski: | eh? |
| [13:21:11] | marc: | Juski: don't forget the framerate. i've seen 50 fps hdtv :) |
| [13:21:28] | Juski: | if you mean resolution, the tv encoder on the card just scales it to fit |
| [13:21:33] | Zider: | I've got HD720p set on my card |
| [13:22:27] | Juski: | the most you'll get out of your svideo output is 720p scaled to NTSC size |
| [13:23:43] | Juski: | "Some modes may be limited to certain TV Standards; if that is the case, it will be noted in the X log file" |
| [13:24:39] | gardengnome: | Juski: use grub-install |
| [13:25:05] | Juski: | gardengnome: sure thing |
| [13:25:13] | gardengnome: | Juski: or even better: follow the instructions in the grub FAQ. |
| [13:25:17] | Juski: | not done copying yet |
| [13:26:33] | dorel_1: | ok so disabling DPMS in monitor configuration on xorg.conf didnt quite do it |
| [13:26:35] | dorel_1: | what else can i try? |
| [13:26:58] | Juski: | Zider: besides. if svideo was good enough for HDTV then why did they bother introducing new connection types hmm? :-P |
| [13:27:17] | Zider: | Juski: because of higher resolution hdtv ofcourse :P |
| [13:27:27] | Juski: | dorel_1: xset DPMS force off |
| [13:27:42] | Juski: | is it 'off' or 'disable'.. anyway... |
| [13:28:19] | Juski: | if you have a plasma/crt/projector you might want to keep dpms enabled – myth should disable screen blanking during playback |
| [13:31:18] | dorel_1: | ok let me try it |
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| [13:35:51] | speedsix: | howdy all |
| [13:36:11] | Juski: | I'd rather have to press a key/move the mouse to wake the screen rather than ruin it with screen burn ;-) |
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| [13:37:16] | Juski: | oo nice down to 33% disk usage on my video partition :-) |
| [13:37:50] | marc: | how many tb is that? :) |
| [13:38:50] | speedsix: | i really think the standard value for capturing a preview image needs to be up round the 5mins mark, for uk stuff anyway |
| [13:39:03] | speedsix: | anything less and I get the ads |
| [13:39:22] | marc: | oh yeah |
| [13:40:22] | marc: | and a 'start late' option for recording should be there |
| [13:40:22] | Juski: | who cares about the preview images? |
| [13:40:38] | speedsix: | me, I'm fussy like that ;) |
| [13:40:50] | Juski: | there are other things to fix before that |
| [13:41:02] | speedsix: | oh no doubt |
| [13:41:04] | marc: | or 'start early' should be 'start offset' and accept negative values |
| [13:41:22] | Juski: | marc: looking forward to your patch already my friend |
| [13:41:58] | marc: | sounds like a challenge |
| [13:42:15] | speedsix: | i've been poking around the source code but it's hard to know where to start |
| [13:42:20] | Juski: | you suggested a feature.. ;-) |
| [13:42:39] | Juski: | speedsix: start at the doxygen docs |
| [13:42:39] | marc: | well |
| [13:43:00] | speedsix: | stupid question but where/what are they? |
| [13:43:59] | speedsix: | found it |
| [13:44:59] | TruBL_: | ok I get the following error when trying to watch liveTV in myth: "You should have gotten a channel lock by now. You can continue to wait for a signal, or you can" |
| [13:45:07] | TruBL_: | any ideas ? |
| [13:45:38] | TruBL_: | But it continues to record to disk ... |
| [13:46:09] | Juski: | TruBL_: change the timeout setting in mythtv-setup I reckon |
| [13:46:30] | Juski: | and don't forget to stop/restart mythbackend either side of running mythtv-setup |
| [13:46:56] | Juski: | livetv with DVB _sucks_ big style in 0.19. 0.20 will be MUCH improved |
| [13:47:13] | TruBL_: | Juski: iv've tryed opening the mpeg that it writes via mplayer and its just a black screen. |
| [13:47:34] | speedsix: | svn is getting better. Definitely recommend upping timeouts as juski mentioned |
| [13:47:50] | marc: | well, it says $schedule->startoffset = intval($_POST['startoffset']); |
| [13:47:51] | TruBL_: | Juski: I still can't get the thing to see any TV and I'v been hacking aroud on this thing for days now :( |
| [13:47:58] | speedsix: | TruBL_, I assume it scans ok? |
| [13:48:04] | marc: | so, in theory it should work already.. |
| [13:48:12] | TruBL_: | speedsix: how do I tell that ? |
| [13:48:20] | Juski: | TruBL_: well, you should sort out that problem before proceeding with mythtv |
| [13:48:21] | TruBL_: | speedsix: tzap ? |
| [13:48:35] | speedsix: | the scan for channels bit in mythtv-setup |
| [13:48:58] | TruBL_: | Juski: its killing me :( I can lock into a channel via tzap but cannot view it. grrr ! |
| [13:49:12] | Juski: | tried other channels? |
| [13:49:45] | TruBL_: | Juski: it only pick up 1 channel. Thats another thing. I _know_ I have a good signal. |
| [13:50:04] | Juski: | soundy likey drivery problem |
| [13:50:17] | TruBL_: | I really don't know how to tackle this problem, |
| [13:50:48] | TruBL_: | well I have a Dual DVICO Fusion DVB-T Adapter. From dmesg it looks supported out of the box on FC5. |
| [13:51:31] | speedsix: | can you scan with the 'scan' program from the dvb-utils package? |
| [13:57:33] | speedsix: | TruBL_, use the scan program to generate a channels.conf file. Put this in ~/.xine/channels.conf and start xine, click on DVB and see if it works |
| [13:58:29] | TruBL_: | speedsix: doing the following gives me errors: /usr/bin/scandvb /usr/share/doc/dvb-apps-1.1.1/channels.conf-dvbt-australia |
| [13:58:38] | TruBL_: | speedsix: such as: |
| [13:59:05] | TruBL_: | speedsix: ERROR: cannot parse'ABC TV 2:226500000:INVERSION_OFF:BANDWIDTH_7_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_3_4:QAM_64:TRANSMISSION_MO DE_8K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_16:HIERARCHY_N |
| [13:59:08] | TruBL_: | ONE:512:650:562 |
| [14:00:06] | speedsix: | I use a line something like.. |
| [14:00:08] | speedsix: | scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/uk-WinterHill > /root/.tzap/channels.conf |
| [14:00:32] | TruBL_: | speedsix: but all the output is errors |
| [14:00:41] | TruBL_: | speedsix: such as above |
| [14:00:42] | Delduil: | Juski: I've fixed the problem. MythTV wanted a command to change the channel. "echo" seems to be sufficient. |
| [14:00:47] | speedsix: | use scan not scandvb |
| [14:00:58] | TruBL_: | speedsix: I aint got scan |
| [14:01:10] | speedsix: | have you installed the dvb-utils package? |
| [14:01:36] | Delduil: | MythTV always accepted an empty command before. Which is what confused me. |
| [14:01:58] | TruBL_: | speedsix: mmm ... apprently not according to rpm(1). |
| [14:02:22] | TruBL_: | speedsix: yum'ing now |
| [14:02:27] | speedsix: | k |
| [14:03:04] | speedsix: | I used this guide btw, I know it's ubuntu but should help.. http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php |
| [14:03:16] | TruBL_: | speedsix: cheers ! |
| [14:03:28] | Juski: | I thought it was dvbscan now not scandvb, anyway |
| [14:03:50] | speedsix: | *shrug* I still use scan |
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| [14:05:28] | Trolex: | anyone has any experience with mythtv and usbvision driver (hauppage usb cards) ? |
| [14:05:32] | speedsix: | Juski, still fighting with that usb stick? |
| [14:05:35] | Trolex: | just that I'm trying to make it work, but |
| [14:05:37] | Trolex: | my card works in xawtv |
| [14:05:43] | Trolex: | but when I use mythtvfrontend, and select watch tv, my system totally hangs up |
| [14:05:46] | Trolex: | last lines before hangup: |
| [14:05:52] | Trolex: | 2006-06–17 23:38:25.845 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [14:05:52] | Coume: | woohooo Pundit is booting fine now it's time to start installing xorg, mythfrontend... |
| [14:05:56] | Trolex: | 2006-06–17 23:38:25.850 Using protocol version 26 |
| [14:06:00] | Trolex: | and from strace mythtv: |
| [14:06:04] | Trolex: | nanosleep({0, 10000000}, NULL) = 0 |
| [14:06:09] | Trolex: | ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 |
| [14:06:13] | Trolex: | any help would be appreciated :) |
| [14:07:59] | TruBL_: | speedsix: are you sure its not dvb-apps. YUM can't find dvb-utils |
| [14:09:36] | speedsix: | oh, I'm not sure then, maybe. it's dvb-utils on mine |
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| [14:10:00] | speedsix: | you can just skip this step and try scanning in mythtv-setup straight away |
| [14:12:56] | Juski: | speedsix: gave up on the USB stick shite a while ago. HDD space is cheap, so is networking ;-) |
| [14:13:27] | Juski: | when this is all done I'm gonna look at LFS or something |
| [14:13:41] | Juski: | too many other distros are just BLOAT |
| [14:13:43] | speedsix: | if the scan is unreliable or doesn't find all the channels, go into the card section and up the timeout values, 10000 should do ;) |
| [14:13:54] | gardengnome: | Juski: hmm. take a look at rock linux. |
| [14:13:58] | Trolex: | I'm using gentoo :) |
| [14:14:03] | Juski: | gentoo == bloat |
| [14:14:07] | Juski: | ubuntu == bloat |
| [14:14:08] | Trolex: | lol :P |
| [14:14:09] | Juski: | debian... |
| [14:14:10] | Trolex: | I like gentoo :() |
| [14:14:11] | Trolex: | :) |
| [14:14:18] | Trolex: | Juski: why gentoo is bloat? |
| [14:14:19] | Juski: | I like gentoo, but it's bloated |
| [14:14:21] | Trolex: | tell me reasons |
| [14:14:22] | Juski: | protage |
| [14:14:26] | Juski: | portage I mean |
| [14:14:30] | Trolex: | what's the problem with portage? |
| [14:14:34] | Trolex: | it's much better than apt |
| [14:14:36] | Juski: | it's fucking huge |
| [14:14:41] | Trolex: | yeah? and it's good? |
| [14:14:43] | speedsix: | I'm going to try ubuntu diet or whatever they call it next time. Kinda regret using knoppmyth |
| [14:14:57] | Juski: | ubuntu server install.. 500MB ! |
| [14:15:04] | Trolex: | yeah i know :) |
| [14:15:07] | Trolex: | but but |
| [14:15:15] | Trolex: | tell me how can i get my wintv usb to work with mythtv |
| [14:15:18] | Trolex: | it works with xawtv |
| [14:15:20] | speedsix: | i kinda want to stick to what I know, trade a bit of bloat for that |
| [14:15:57] | speedsix: | the repositories knoppmyth uses are lethal |
| [14:16:33] | Juski: | gardengnome: hmm rock linux... |
| [14:17:33] | Juski: | ah.. similar to GAR I think but the GAR folks say it's very sucky |
| [14:17:38] | speedsix: | any of you uk'ers had any sucess with mytharchive? |
| [14:17:42] | Trolex: | I'll try svn version of mythtv now, if it would work |
| [14:17:44] | Trolex: | cu soon ;) |
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| [14:30:58] | marc: | strange |
| [14:32:25] | marc: | someone must have changed that already. start early accepts negative values |
| [14:32:34] | marc: | Juski: there you go. your patch is empty :) |
| [14:36:21] | marc: | but it doesn't work :( |
| [14:36:57] | marc: | so it's not a problem in mythweb but in the backend itself |
| [14:37:03] | marc: | that's going to take a while.. |
| [14:40:40] | psofa: | Juski, how's portage bloated? |
| [14:41:19] | psofa: | id say the contrary about it |
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| [14:48:43] | TruBL_: | Juski: ping |
| [14:49:49] | TruBL_: | Juski: you where right it was a driver issue. I dowloaded the latest snapshot from CVS and volia it work !! |
| [14:50:57] | TruBL_: | The Question I now have. I have 16:9 widescreen Loewe TV. The picture I get seems to have a black border around it. How can I get myth to use the _whole_ screen ? |
| [14:52:11] | marc: | does anyone remember the value name that sets the default 'start early' and 'end late' values? |
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| [14:52:45] | TruBL_: | Conceptual question: MythTV does supporting watching _live_ TV right ? |
| [14:52:58] | marc: | i set mine to end late by 3 minutes per default and now i can't find it any more :( |
| [14:53:41] | GreyFoxx: | TruBL_: Define liveTV |
| [14:53:44] | marc: | i thought it's in the settings table |
| [14:54:01] | GreyFoxx: | IF you mean, 100% raw,no buffering therefore can'tpause or rewind "livetv" then no, it doesn't |
| [14:54:48] | jerky_2: | TruBL_, yes, liveTV is supported. at worst you will be like 2 seconds behind "live TV" because of buffering |
| [14:55:13] | jerky_2: | TruBL_: myth can use widescreen. just press M while watching TV and a menu comes up, then go to aspect ratio and switch yours |
| [14:55:35] | jerky_2: | if you are using a native 16x9 display like a plasma TV, you can configure X to use a native 852x480 resolution, or 1366x768, whatever your TV has |
| [14:55:55] | jerky_2: | having a native 16:9 res instead of 4:3 makes a lot of stretching and font size problems go away, i found |
| [14:55:57] | TruBL_: | I'm so stoked I got this thing to work ! |
| [14:56:03] | jerky_2: | congrats :) |
| [14:56:22] | TruBL_: | This sw is a perfect opportunity for someone to write an oreilly book on :) |
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| [14:57:30] | TruBL_: | jerky_2: whats the key combo to change channels ? |
| [14:58:03] | jerky_2: | there are a few, you can press up/down, you can type a channel number (and optionally press enter, depending on how you like it), or you can hit M to bring up the menu, space to bring up the program guide, and select a chan through it |
| [14:58:58] | TruBL_: | So to watch LiveTV I always go into Utilities/Setup ? |
| [15:00:09] | jerky_2: | no, just select "watch TV" from the main menu |
| [15:00:13] | jerky_2: | it's the first choice |
| [15:00:21] | TruBL_: | I have this blue line on the left hand side of the picture ... mmm about 1cd wide. Like a blue border ... |
| [15:01:00] | TruBL_: | s/1cd/1cm |
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| [15:01:32] | jerky_2: | is it on all channels? |
| [15:01:54] | jerky_2: | i only see borders around video in xine, which does that on purpose to help you when you are adjusting zoom with z or Z |
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| [15:04:24] | JavaJunky: | lo |
| [15:04:30] | TruBL_: | mmm ... I have no audio :( |
| [15:05:10] | JavaJunky: | quicky, I've re-compiled mythtv (f/e+b/e combo) to have native lirc support, but things aren't working, is there any way I can see from the compiled binaries whether it's really compiled in or not ? .i.e some kind of log output, I can't spot anything obvious ? |
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| [15:13:36] | scales: | opinions, which is the best remote type and model (ir or rf) for mythtv? or which do you all use? |
| [15:15:06] | ** TruBL_ wonders what the key stroke to pause live TV is ... ** | |
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| [15:19:12] | scales: | no one is up? |
| [15:19:15] | scales: | or responding? |
| [15:20:40] | TruBL_: | grrr I have this 2cm border around my screen. I have a 16:9 Loewe SD TV. I have 800x600 in xorg.conf. What gives ? |
| [15:20:54] | Juski: | you can also use W to switch aspect ratio in mythtv during playback/livetv |
| [15:21:05] | scales: | yeah but that isnt the problem |
| [15:21:07] | scales: | i have it too |
| [15:21:08] | Juski: | TruBL_: using tv out? |
| [15:21:28] | scales: | i wish there was some kind of gui that let me resize my screen and move it |
| [15:21:29] | scales: | etc |
| [15:21:30] | TruBL_: | Juski: yes. As in my S-Video out on my Nvidia card |
| [15:21:47] | TruBL_: | Juski: Is that what you meant ? |
| [15:21:53] | Juski: | get nvidia-settings and adjust the overscan value til you have no borders |
| [15:22:32] | Juski: | when you have it how you want, close nvidia-settings. then put nvidia-settings -l in your .xinitrc file (~/.xinitrc) |
| [15:22:48] | TruBL_: | Juski: cool. Cheers *again*. I owe you a carton soon. |
| [15:22:52] | Juski: | that way every time that user starts x, the overscan value gets re applied |
| [15:23:08] | Juski: | you'll prolly have to adjust the size/position of the mythtv GUI too |
| [15:23:19] | Juski: | a PITA but thankfully you only need do it once |
| [15:23:28] | scales: | i have tried that, it just isnt quite enough, it still could be better. oh well i think that that mostly is just due to using a tv |
| [15:23:59] | Juski: | my nvidia svid output fills my TV no problem, and my old nvidia based frontend did too |
| [15:24:05] | Juski: | (with overscan) |
| [15:24:12] | TruBL_: | Juski: There doesn't seem to be an overscan option in nvidia-settings ? |
| [15:24:20] | Juski: | if you have a GF2 card use nvtv |
| [15:24:51] | Juski: | TruBL_: it should be there under TV-out settings |
| [15:25:25] | Zider: | I still haven't found a way to get nvtv to restore settings automatically when run.. I have to set everything manually every time.. |
| [15:25:39] | Juski: | Zider: add this to your .xinitrc file: |
| [15:25:44] | Juski: | nvidia-settings -l |
| [15:26:04] | Juski: | that will reload your saved settings (i.e. the settings last set when you quit nvidia-settings) |
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| [15:26:24] | Juski: | that's 'l' as in the letter L |
| [15:26:45] | Juski: | alternatively, nvidia-settings --load-config-only does the same thing |
| [15:28:18] | TruBL_: | Juski: mmm ... nvtv a separate pkg ? |
| [15:28:18] | gardengnome: | mind you, nvidia-settings sometimes doesn't set overscan correctly if you're going to for maximum picture size. setting it to 24 and then to 25 should work, though |
| [15:28:48] | Zider: | Juski: oh, I thought it was nvtv that restored it.. |
| [15:28:56] | Juski: | TruBL_: you only need deal with nvtv if you have < GF4 card |
| [15:29:51] | TruBL_: | Juski: yes. I have GF2 MX400 |
| [15:30:16] | Juski: | ditch nvidia-settings then. you need nvtv, but beware its overscan options are not adjustable |
| [15:30:32] | TruBL_: | Juski: not adjustable ? |
| [15:30:35] | Juski: | and some tv-out encoders are complete shite |
| [15:30:39] | Juski: | that's what I said |
| [15:30:46] | Juski: | you get a choice of a few screen sizes |
| [15:31:13] | Juski: | worth spending $30 or so for a GF4 card, if only for better tv output |
| [15:31:40] | Juski: | the things they don't mention in the howtos.. I dunno.. (tsck!) |
| [15:31:49] | Zider: | yeah, I'll chuck out for a GF6200.. |
| [15:31:52] | ** TruBL_ looks for nvtv ... ** | |
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| [15:32:35] | Juski: | gardengnome: looking like I'll have to install again |
| [15:33:07] | Juski: | the networked copy just isnt working right – I chrooted into the NFS root.. no grub is there, so tried to emerge it.. no dice |
| [15:34:09] | gardengnome: | Juski: huh? |
| [15:34:18] | gardengnome: | Juski: what do you mean, no dice? it didn't compile? |
| [15:34:30] | Juski: | gardengnome: loads of errors to do with the fs |
| [15:34:48] | Juski: | IOError: [Errno 37] No locks available |
| [15:34:48] | Juski: | close failed: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor |
| [15:34:57] | gardengnome: | humm. what exactly did you do? |
| [15:35:11] | Juski: | I just copied / over to the nfs share |
| [15:35:16] | Juski: | then chrooted into it |
| [15:35:28] | Juski: | to see if it'd work |
| [15:35:33] | gardengnome: | and, uh, into that chroot, you're trying to run grub? |
| [15:35:40] | Juski: | yup |
| [15:35:43] | gardengnome: | s/into/in/ |
| [15:36:28] | gardengnome: | Juski: humm. so you're now logged in into your server? |
| [15:36:38] | Juski: | yep |
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| [15:36:45] | Juski: | not booted from it yet though |
| [15:36:49] | Juski: | just chrooted |
| [15:36:59] | gardengnome: | so |
| [15:37:20] | gardengnome: | why are you running grub on your server? just ssh to the s100 and install grub from there... |
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| [15:38:26] | Juski: | good point! I think I killed a few brain cells off last night |
| [15:38:37] | gardengnome: | right. |
| [15:38:51] | Juski: | emerging grub now |
| [15:38:53] | gardengnome: | and mind you, it's always a good idea to mount --bind proc into your chroot. |
| [15:39:27] | gardengnome: | if grub complains about issues with mapping files (or whatever), RTFM ;) there's an option to correct this |
| [15:39:46] | gardengnome: | symlinking /proc/mounts to /etc/mtab might be necessary, too |
| [15:39:46] | Juski: | I RTFM... dunno if I understood it though |
| [15:40:08] | coolego1: | what's the difference between the "nv" and "nvidia" drivers in xorg.conf? |
| [15:40:19] | Juski: | there's a diskless install howto I once followed that did the biz for me, but that was a _fresh_ install |
| [15:40:31] | Juski: | coolego1: one is OSS, the other is good & works better |
| [15:40:56] | Juski: | if you just want 2d, stick with nv |
| [15:41:19] | Juski: | if you want 3d/dri, go with the nvidia binary driver |
| [15:41:28] | Juski: | (and tv-out) |
| [15:48:04] | TruBL_: | what's the keystroke to pause live TV in myth people ? |
| [15:48:35] | Coume: | oups... Xorg is not even installed and I only have 300Mb left on my CF :( |
| [15:50:03] | Zambezi: | Coume, Do you need Xorg? |
| [15:51:32] | Zambezi: | Coume, I installed xserver-xorg, xclient-server-core, fluxbox. What might take less space and still offers you grafic interface? |
| [15:56:06] | TruBL_: | boyz the tv I am currently viewing (The World Cup) is a bit jaggered'y. What can I do to fix this ? |
| [16:04:39] | Coume: | Zambezi, did not thought about this option, let me check that |
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| [16:07:31] | Zambezi: | Coume, If you have serverinstall, and install xserver-xorg and xclient-server-core you can login using "startx" or "startfluxbox". But you have to configure the startmenu yourself. |
| [16:09:09] | Zambezi: | Coume, FVWM is very slim too. IceWM is another option, but if your new on Linux, you might choose a WM which has alot of support. |
| [16:09:55] | Coume: | I always use WM on my mythbox |
| [16:11:12] | Zambezi: | Coume, I don't even have MythTV yet. I can't install it, but I'll try later. I have problem with MySQL. |
| [16:12:04] | Coume: | Zambezi, I'm building a new frontend using a CF-toIDE so I got only 2GB space |
| [16:12:44] | gardengnome: | Coume delete /usr/portage/distfiles |
| [16:12:57] | gardengnome: | GreyFoxx: err, only the stuff you don't need anymore |
| [16:13:00] | gardengnome: | dammit. |
| [16:13:03] | D-side: | Coume: oh yeah? |
| [16:13:06] | gardengnome: | Coume: that was for you ;) |
| [16:13:07] | D-side: | Coume: based on what distro? |
| [16:13:15] | D-side: | gentoo apparently. :) |
| [16:13:18] | gardengnome: | Coume: also clean up /var/tmp |
| [16:13:43] | gardengnome: | Coume: are you compiling everything on the CF? |
| [16:14:05] | Coume: | gardengnome, yep... but might need to create a nfs |
| [16:14:44] | gardengnome: | Coume: ouch, that sounds slow. might be smarter to compile everything on a different box and copy it over via nfs |
| [16:15:24] | Coume: | gardengnome, I don't have another box available to do so :( |
| [16:15:36] | Coume: | but the CF is a 120x it is really fast... I'm surprised |
| [16:15:38] | gardengnome: | Coume: your laptop? ;) |
| [16:15:42] | Coume: | yep D-side gentoo |
| [16:16:09] | Coume: | gardengnome, free space on laptoip 127Mb... |
| [16:16:25] | gardengnome: | Coume: heh, that sucks ;) |
| [16:16:58] | Zambezi: | Coume, Only 2 GB on CF-card. What are you using the computer too? |
| [16:17:22] | Coume: | Zambezi, frontend very quiet and nothingelse :) |
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| [16:21:39] | Coume: | gardengnome, I can remove my /usr/src/ if I don't have to recompile my kernel right? and If I need to tweak it, just have to reemerge the source right? |
| [16:22:06] | gardengnome: | yeah. |
| [16:22:35] | Zambezi: | Cougar, I would like a solution like that on my firewall. |
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| [16:22:53] | Coume: | ok so that's will empty 350Mb ... |
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| [16:23:05] | Coume: | argh my english is bad today |
| [16:23:10] | Coume: | like everyday... |
| [16:23:23] | ru: | My mythphone module is just spamming the myth output |
| [16:26:04] | Juski: | ding ding |
| [16:26:32] | Juski: | /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive ??? wtf?! |
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| [16:28:24] | gardengnome: | Juski: yeah. wait a second. |
| [16:28:43] | gardengnome: | Juski: grub-install --recheck |
| [16:29:49] | Juski: | is this still gonna be a PXE config or just a normal grub? |
| [16:30:11] | gardengnome: | normal grub, i'd say. that's how i did it. |
| [16:30:38] | gardengnome: | because i'll need a normal grub for my wlan netboot weirdness ;) |
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| [16:31:25] | Juski: | heh |
| [16:33:51] | reze: | Hello, can I see the quality of my DVB-T reception somewhere? |
| [16:34:46] | Juski: | reze: tzap normally reports signal strength & error rate etc |
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| [16:36:34] | ru: | Does anyone elsemythphone module is just spamming the myth output |
| [16:36:44] | ru: | Does anyone elses mythphone spam the myth output |
| [16:37:06] | reze: | Juski: It says, that the ressource / device is busy |
| [16:37:18] | reze: | can I use tzap only when I'm not watching TV ?= |
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| [16:40:18] | Juski: | reze: only one thing can use the device at any time. you'd need to stop mythbackend to try tzap |
| [16:40:33] | reze: | uh, this sucks =) |
| [16:40:46] | reze: | watching soccer |
| [16:41:12] | reze: | does anybody know what the following mythfrontend messages mean?: |
| [16:41:13] | reze: | 2006-06–18 18:39:59.880 rebuffering (10301 32768) |
| [16:41:31] | reze: | there are hundreds of them in the log |
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| [16:47:58] | Delduil: | I get the buffering messages when watching real time TV with this latest install |
| [16:48:20] | reze: | yes |
| [16:48:30] | reze: | i'm watching tv (dvb-t) |
| [16:48:45] | Delduil: | Don't know what they are, though. SuSE10.0 with the previous install didn't give them. |
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| [16:56:14] | adante: | GO AUSSIES |
| [16:56:19] | adante: | ! |
| [16:57:46] | marc: | yay :) |
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| [17:02:29] | Juski: | hmm looks like I need to fixx0r my boot partition |
| [17:04:10] | D-side: | now thats just. wtf. |
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| [17:05:00] | D-side: | so i'm using ubuntu (dapper), and i see that an option for a cd device is "copy disc". i choose "write to file", and let it fly. theres a dvd disc in the drive. |
| [17:05:13] | D-side: | for whatever reason, i figure that couldnt possibly work. |
| [17:05:18] | D-side: | i was wrong. |
| [17:06:25] | D-side: | I have no idea what that mystifies me so much. |
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| [17:09:33] | ** gardengnome pats d-side ** | |
| [17:10:45] | Juski: | hrm |
| [17:10:51] | Juski: | still can't boot from this DoM |
| [17:10:52] | D-side: | gardengnome: bah. |
| [17:10:57] | D-side: | i'm easily impressed. |
| [17:10:59] | gardengnome: | Juski: why not? |
| [17:11:03] | D-side: | Disk on Module? |
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| [17:11:21] | joker5133: | hey guys |
| [17:11:27] | D-side: | one of those that doesnt look like an ata drive, but a mem device? |
| [17:11:41] | joker5133: | whats a cheap nvidia card w/ TV-out that works great with mythtv? im gonna give up on my radeon |
| [17:11:57] | Juski: | gardengnome: if I knew why not I'd have fixed it |
| [17:12:36] | Juski: | I understand many things. grub isn't one of them |
| [17:13:06] | Juski: | partitioned the DoM. formatted it with ext2. ding! |
| [17:13:22] | Juski: | installed grub onto /dev/hdc. ding! |
| [17:13:46] | D-side: | er, is there an hda? |
| [17:13:55] | speedsix: | joker5133, 5200 works fine here |
| [17:14:09] | ru: | I just removed and re-added the mythmusic module, but now its completely broken |
| [17:14:16] | ru: | Ill paste my log file |
| [17:14:36] | joker5133: | no problems with it? |
| [17:14:41] | Juski: | D-side.. never mind hda |
| [17:14:47] | D-side: | heh. |
| [17:14:52] | ru: | http://pastebin.com/716765 |
| [17:14:56] | ru: | Any idea's? |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | good job I'm a dab hand with grub command prompts |
| [17:15:01] | D-side: | bios set to boot from the dom then? |
| [17:15:12] | Juski: | D-side: not that simple |
| [17:15:28] | D-side: | i've never used a DoM before, i'll take your word for it. |
| [17:15:48] | Juski: | I can set the BIOS to boot from it – it's the grub config that's fucked up somehow |
| [17:16:30] | Juski: | I'm confuzzled because I'm booting from /dev/hda as usual, then installing grub onto /dev/hdc where the DoM is, but the DoM is gonna be /dev/hda eventually |
| [17:16:45] | joker5133: | any nvidia card cheaper than the 5200 that works good???????? |
| [17:16:55] | gardengnome: | Juski: how did you install grub? |
| [17:17:05] | Juski: | grub-install /dev/hdc1 |
| [17:17:08] | D-side: | oh. so what you want to do is boot from hda, then choose an option to then boot hdc ? |
| [17:17:17] | Juski: | D-side: no! |
| [17:17:19] | D-side: | haha |
| [17:17:21] | D-side: | i'm sorry |
| [17:17:38] | D-side: | i personally have never trusted grub-install. |
| [17:17:54] | gardengnome: | Juski: did you remove the wlan card from your s100 when you got that lspci output? http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/s100/lspci.txt |
| [17:17:57] | reze: | concerning rebuffering messages: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006 . . . /125384.html |
| [17:18:25] | Juski: | gardengnome: I can try lspci again when I've reinstalled it |
| [17:19:00] | joker5133: | do agp 8x cards work with older mobos with AGP?????? |
| [17:19:00] | gardengnome: | Juski: no, it's OK, i've just copied all firmware files ;) |
| [17:19:18] | gardengnome: | joker5133: your ? key is stuck. please fix that |
| [17:19:36] | joker5133: | if you answer my q :) |
| [17:19:39] | ru: | Oh wait, I think I installed mythmusic 0.18, but I am running myth 0.19 |
| [17:19:43] | Juski: | anyway I found out my kernel doesn't have nfs rooting enabled ;-) |
| [17:19:45] | joker5133: | im leaving, someone shoot me an answer real quick |
| [17:19:52] | joker5133: | :) |
| [17:19:59] | Juski: | I'm leaving, someone help me or I'l just leave! |
| [17:20:14] | gardengnome: | joker5133: just leave, nobody is gonna help you because your attitude sucks. |
| [17:20:30] | gardengnome: | joker5133: http://www.google.de/url?sa=U&start=1& . . . K02QLTs8iQAw |
| [17:20:34] | gardengnome: | oops. |
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| [17:21:05] | joker5133: | no |
| [17:21:07] | joker5133: | im leaving to buy it |
| [17:21:13] | joker5133: | and i want a quick YES or NO answer |
| [17:21:22] | Juski: | eep! my nick is owned by someone else. that must be my other personality |
| [17:21:34] | Juski: | joker5133: google! |
| [17:21:52] | gardengnome: | ask the clerk in the shop |
| [17:21:53] | joker5133: | i tried |
| [17:21:59] | joker5133: | im sure u know the answer |
| [17:22:12] | ** Juski has an AGP 8x card plugged into an Abit kt-7 board, which AFAIK only has AGP 4x ** | |
| [17:22:21] | gardengnome: | joker5133: http://www.google.de/search?hs=VBL&hl=de& . . . p;meta=lr%3D |
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| [17:22:26] | joker5133: | i love how linux users think they are above everyone else |
| [17:22:28] | joker5133: | thx juski |
| [17:22:28] | Juski: | YMMV would be the answer – neither yes or no |
| [17:22:31] | joker5133: | thats all u had to say |
| [17:22:53] | joker5133: | garden, hf in heaven for using linux |
| [17:22:57] | joker5133: | almighty you |
| [17:23:02] | Juski: | joker5133: is this the video-card-noob channel? |
| [17:23:21] | Juski: | nah I'll save this rant for some other sucker |
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| [17:23:54] | gardengnome: | sucker. |
| [17:24:07] | ** gardengnome snickers ** | |
| [17:24:21] | Juski: | all of IRC is like this. #gentoo just ignore me, but does it piss me off? nah. puts me off using gentoo though |
| [17:24:36] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [17:25:05] | Juski: | right.. new fs on /dev/hdc |
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| [17:25:56] | Juski: | oh shit. I didn't need to do that. All I needed to do was rebuildy kernel |
| [17:27:47] | Juski: | hrm... nfs root isn't in menuconfig in 'network file systems' |
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| [17:27:57] | D-side: | Juski: the gentoo channel isn't so great, no. |
| [17:28:09] | D-side: | lots of people, low SNR |
| [17:28:59] | Juski: | lower SNR than the users-list and that's saying a lot |
| [17:29:03] | gardengnome: | Juski: you need to compile nfs support statically. |
| [17:29:39] | Juski: | statically? built-in you mean? already is |
| [17:30:06] | gardengnome: | and add ip level auto-configuration, that's somewhere under network support. don't forget the realtek driver... |
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| [17:30:26] | gardengnome: | Juski: linux/Documentation/nfsroot.txt – if everything else fails, i can give you my .config |
| [17:32:40] | ** Coume wants xorg to be installed by tonight... ** | |
| [17:32:51] | Juski: | Coume: go minimal |
| [17:32:58] | Juski: | xorg-x11 |
| [17:33:05] | Juski: | and use evilwm ;-) |
| [17:33:11] | ru: | I am running ubuntu – breezy how do I get mythmusic 0.19 running? |
| [17:33:27] | Coume: | Juski, I had to make space to be able to emerge xorg-x11 ... I only hand 300Mb left... |
| [17:33:33] | ru: | I had it running I think I used that hunter.ws guys packages, but his site seems dead? |
| [17:33:46] | Juski: | ru: upgrade to dapper & use the proper packages... there be dragons! |
| [17:33:57] | ru: | Juski: Upgrading to dapper is scarey :S |
| [17:33:58] | Coume: | I am trying to exclude useless package from portage too |
| [17:34:04] | Juski: | or compile from source, ru |
| [17:34:20] | ru: | Juski: Why though, everything was running perfectly |
| [17:34:22] | Juski: | where the hell is this pesky option? |
| [17:34:36] | Juski: | ru: everything is NOT running perfectly if you want to use mythmusic |
| [17:35:01] | ru: | Juski: How u mean? U saying its a hack the way i have it atm? |
| [17:35:22] | Juski: | the fickle ubuntu folks have decided that you must use dapper if you want 0.19 unless you wanna build it yourself |
| [17:35:29] | ru: | grr |
| [17:35:50] | ru: | Why dont i just get a dapper repo and quickly install it? |
| [17:36:14] | Juski: | good luck with that |
| [17:36:41] | ru: | Ok fine, ill do it the right wa |
| [17:36:42] | ru: | way |
| [17:36:53] | Juski: | yay I found ip level auto configuration |
| [17:36:59] | ru: | how do u upgrade to dapper? apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [17:37:12] | Juski: | ru: see ubuntulinux.org for that |
| [17:38:57] | Juski: | had a think about it today & I realise why mythtv isn't included as a full part of ubuntu |
| [17:39:14] | Juski: | because it uses stuff which is the subject of software patents!!!! |
| [17:39:26] | Juski: | eesh! |
| [17:40:24] | Juski: | that was the only _rational_ reason I could come up with |
| [17:40:52] | gardengnome: | Juski: umm. who decided that? dapper comes with 0.18 as well. |
| [17:40:59] | Juski: | does it? |
| [17:41:03] | gardengnome: | yep. |
| [17:41:04] | Juski: | sucky sucky long time |
| [17:41:08] | gardengnome: | ;) |
| [17:41:48] | Juski: | so the 'great easy to use distro' has been reduced to .. get it yourself. and that makes it better HOW? |
| [17:42:34] | Juski: | I can complain til the cows come home, but I'll still not want to go back to windows |
| [17:42:38] | Juski: | :-P |
| [17:43:27] | Juski: | damn I still didn't enabled nfsroot |
| [17:45:43] | Juski: | gardengnome: I'm thinking my grub.conf should looky a bit like this: |
| [17:46:07] | Juski: | root (hd0,0) |
| [17:46:07] | Juski: | kernel /boot/2.6.16-gentoo-r9 nfs root=192.168.1.10:/diskless/s100/ |
| [17:46:35] | Juski: | oops |
| [17:47:21] | Juski: | more like kernel /boot/2.6.16-gentoo-r9 root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.10:/diskless/s100/ |
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| [17:48:22] | RageMax: | I'm having problems streaming content via VLC |
| [17:48:46] | ** Juski checks and verifies this isn't #vlc ** | |
| [17:49:01] | RageMax: | this is with a mythtv box |
| [17:49:05] | Juski: | nor is it #grub, but hey.. |
| [17:49:06] | RageMax: | where you do live streaming |
| [17:49:14] | Juski: | with mythstreamtv? |
| [17:49:17] | RageMax: | yeah |
| [17:49:34] | RageMax: | VLC is just getting an EOF with the stream |
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| [17:51:53] | RageMax: | I've tried DIV3 and WMV2 encoding and also mms and http, none of them work |
| [17:52:43] | Juski: | RageMax: you trying to send nuppelvideo or mpeg sources? |
| [17:53:02] | Juski: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /071264.html |
| [17:55:19] | Juski: | if it's a software encoding card, you might be out of luck |
| [17:55:58] | RageMax: | my card doesn't do any type of mpeg encoding, the computer is going to have to do it all |
| [17:56:25] | coolego1: | does anyone know if there are any advantages of unichrome over x.org with mythdora? |
| [17:56:26] | Juski: | I don't think VLC has any nuppelvideo filters |
| [17:56:46] | Juski: | coolego1: yeah – for one you'll get mpeg2 acceleration |
| [17:57:56] | coolego1: | ok, which one is better then? |
| [17:58:03] | Juski: | openchrome |
| [17:58:14] | marc: | damn brasos.. gn8 |
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| [17:59:34] | coolego1: | Juski: does that mean that I have to have a VIA chipset to make it worth using unichrmoe |
| [18:00:15] | Juski: | coolego1: you'd need via unichrome graphics to make use of unichrome drivers |
| [18:00:23] | gardengnome: | Juski: maybe you need to add ip=dhcp |
| [18:00:31] | coolego1: | ok, so I'll just go with the xorg ones instead... |
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| [18:01:53] | Juski: | gardengnome: maybe yeh |
| [18:02:29] | Juski: | hmm the DoM bootup is going.. "grub" – then nothing |
| [18:02:52] | gardengnome: | Juski: just a grub> ? |
| [18:02:58] | Juski: | GRUB, actually |
| [18:03:04] | gardengnome: | no prompt? |
| [18:03:13] | Juski: | just hangs there |
| [18:04:49] | Juski: | wonder if my DoM is write protected or something daft |
| [18:07:53] | Juski: | or maybe... |
| [18:08:04] | Juski: | PEBCAK again ;-) |
| [18:10:16] | Juski: | nah.. still hanging at GRUB |
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| [18:17:18] | K1LOS: | hello |
| [18:18:13] | K1LOS: | anybody around? |
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| [18:32:59] | ru: | can someone send me the mythmusic 0.19 plugin? |
| [18:33:14] | ru: | I cant find where to get it anymore on breezy and i removed it accidently |
| [18:33:32] | gardengnome: | you prolly got it from thehunter.ws |
| [18:33:45] | Juski: | .. which is down at the moment |
| [18:33:57] | ru: | yeah |
| [18:34:01] | ru: | oh wait! |
| [18:34:02] | ru: | its back :D |
| [18:34:04] | ru: | sweeeet |
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| [18:51:50] | thebrasse: | Hello! I'm having some ALSA rate convert headaches. I want mythmusic to be able to play my mp3s and CDs. Maybe someone here knows what I'm doing wrong? Take a look here: http://paste.uni.cc/9297 |
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| [19:02:01] | Juski: | hrm. still missing something vital... |
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| [19:51:00] | Juski: | grrrr.. damn you grub! |
| [19:55:24] | Coume: | eheh, I am not the one messing around :) |
| [19:58:07] | scopeuk: | Juski whats grub tortrign you with |
| [19:58:16] | scopeuk: | besides the bizzar drive naming convention |
| [20:00:52] | Juski: | grub is being a bitch, but it's not my bitch (yet) |
| [20:01:14] | Juski: | I'm booting from /dev/hda, k? |
| [20:01:21] | Juski: | I want to install grub on /dev/hdc |
| [20:01:39] | Juski: | and then swap the device over to /dev/hda |
| [20:01:53] | opello: | setup (hd1) ? |
| [20:02:45] | opello: | grub will tab complete the device for you too (so you can see the number of partitions and devices it knows about) |
| [20:04:55] | Juski: | woo... so all I needed to do was ditch grub-install & do it manually |
| [20:05:24] | opello: | heh, i don't really like the grub-install :/ |
| [20:08:28] | Juski: | hmm interesting.. got the nfsroot to work (kind of) |
| [20:08:52] | Juski: | it goes to start the network as it boots up, then loses the plot.. lol |
| [20:09:24] | gardengnome: | loses the plot? you know, stuff like that doesn't contain a lot of information ;) |
| [20:09:50] | Juski: | it starts the network, then obviously loses the nfs connection |
| [20:10:04] | gardengnome: | what's the error message? |
| [20:10:13] | gardengnome: | aaah |
| [20:10:19] | gardengnome: | you mean, init starts the network? |
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| [20:10:26] | Juski: | yup |
| [20:10:36] | gardengnome: | i've just disabled everything network-related on my install. :) |
| [20:10:46] | metalac: | hey anyone knows why when i watch live tv the output would freeze |
| [20:10:59] | metalac: | i have to push ESC and then watch tv again and it would work |
| [20:11:07] | metalac: | it happens when i change channels |
| [20:11:16] | metalac: | and then when i go back to watch tv it works fine |
| [20:11:29] | metalac: | and sometimes freezes an hour or so after watching the same channel |
| [20:11:45] | metalac: | nothing happens when I record stuff |
| [20:11:48] | metalac: | recordings work just fine |
| [20:11:58] | Juski: | gardengnome: so erm.. what should I do? |
| [20:12:17] | gardengnome: | Juski: remove the init script that starts the network |
| [20:12:52] | Juski: | heh |
| [20:12:54] | Juski: | renamed it |
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| [20:15:28] | Juski: | bloody hell |
| [20:16:00] | gardengnome: | Juski: have you had problems with broken tv-out? like, greenish? |
| [20:16:11] | Juski: | started X.. now in mythfrontend! |
| [20:16:13] | Juski: | wooo! |
| [20:16:15] | Coume: | erm... Can I emerge qt-4 for Mythtv? I remember hearding something about that... |
| [20:16:25] | Juski: | gardengnome: not yet |
| [20:16:27] | gardengnome: | Coume: no. only qt3. |
| [20:16:32] | Juski: | Coume: no! no qt4! |
| [20:16:48] | Coume: | ok ok :) I need to hide it then :) |
| [20:17:02] | Coume: | btw, I found a great script to hide pakage in the portage |
| [20:17:18] | gardengnome: | rm -rf? |
| [20:17:22] | Coume: | portage is only 33Mb ATM... |
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| [20:17:25] | gardengnome: | package.mask? |
| [20:17:33] | Juski: | right... now I just need to mount /dev/hda somewhere and edit the grub.conf file so I no longer have to do CLI grub |
| [20:17:44] | gardengnome: | Juski: i had the same problem. |
| [20:17:56] | Coume: | gardengnome, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-55031-po . . . start-0.html |
| [20:18:00] | gardengnome: | Juski: what's your FS layout on the DoM? |
| [20:18:21] | Juski: | gardengnome: one partition, ext2 |
| [20:18:26] | Juski: | I think |
| [20:18:28] | gardengnome: | Juski: directory structure? |
| [20:18:28] | Coume: | i slightly modifed the python script to suit me better :) |
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| [20:18:46] | gardengnome: | Coume: woohoo! quite sophisticated for a marketing guy ;) |
| [20:19:42] | Coume: | rahhhhhhhhhhh |
| [20:19:49] | Juski: | gardengnome: http://pastebin.com/717096 |
| [20:20:46] | gardengnome: | Juski: yeah, that looks good. |
| [20:21:20] | gardengnome: | Juski: same for me, except for the symlink. and grub is still giving you nothing but a shell? |
| [20:22:06] | Juski: | gardengnome: grub.conf had root (hd2,0) instead of root(hd0,0) |
| [20:22:34] | Coume: | the marketing guy needs to find out how to mask the ugly qt4... he knows how to unmask but not how to mask lol |
| [20:22:44] | Juski: | package.mask |
| [20:23:14] | Coume: | Juski, is it that simple? |
| [20:23:18] | gardengnome: | yep. |
| [20:23:24] | Juski: | supposed to be |
| [20:23:34] | gardengnome: | does an emerge mythtv pull in qt 4? sounds like a broken ebuild. |
| [20:23:54] | Coume: | should I hide, or can we put that on the hours behind the computers :) |
| [20:24:02] | Juski: | lol |
| [20:24:04] | Coume: | gardengnome, yep it bring qt4 |
| [20:24:08] | gardengnome: | anyways, i gotta get food |
| [20:24:12] | gardengnome: | Coume: file a bug ;) |
| [20:25:57] | Juski: | oh wow. I've never seen performance this bad |
| [20:27:14] | Juski: | I wonder if I have a loopback condition going on |
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| [20:32:12] | Juski: | hmmm that totally blew |
| [20:32:29] | Juski: | was much better from a local HDD.. I mean several times better |
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| [20:33:07] | D-side: | DoM is slow? |
| [20:33:41] | Juski: | no, the nfsroot is slowwww |
| [20:36:13] | D-side: | oh. unless you're pushing a ton of data back and forth it really shouldnt be. :/ |
| [20:36:42] | Juski: | I know it shouldn't be slow |
| [20:37:00] | Juski: | I used to have a nfsrooted frontend |
| [20:37:51] | Juski: | unless the fstab entry could do with some tuning: |
| [20:37:51] | Juski: | 192.168.1.10:/diskless/s100 / nfs defaults 0 0 |
| [20:39:01] | D-side: | hm. last i did so i think i was tuning window sizes or something in fstab |
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| [20:39:20] | Juski: | rebootski :-) |
| [20:45:10] | Juski: | better, still not brilliant |
| [20:48:06] | Juski: | I wonder, if I was to symlink the video recordings directory to the same point in the nfsroot |
| [20:48:23] | Juski: | might save some traffic |
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| [21:02:25] | hpAuto: | anyone know how to clear out mytharchive |
| [21:02:43] | hpAuto: | crashed while makeing a dvd, now I can't get it seems stuck |
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| [21:05:28] | metalac: | anyone knows where i could find more information as to why is it that when I watch live tv i get random freezes? |
| [21:05:36] | metalac: | they happen usually when i switch channels |
| [21:05:47] | metalac: | and randomly while watching TV |
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| [21:06:12] | metalac: | it's not a full system freeze, but all i need to do is push ESC key and I'm back at mythtv menu |
| [21:08:04] | ru: | downloading file 1 of 1397 |
| [21:08:06] | ru: | lol! |
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| [21:10:19] | tank-man: | what are the requirements for nuvexport, anyone know? |
| [21:13:23] | tank-man: | i'm getting this erorr, http://pastebin.com/717194 |
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| [21:19:10] | ru: | Can anyone tell me why my mythphone is spamming myth's output: |
| [21:19:11] | ru: | http://pastebin.com/717203 |
| [21:19:22] | ru: | it outputs a chunk of data like that every second or do |
| [21:19:23] | ru: | so* |
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| [21:30:36] | Coume: | night all, qt is emerging and 10 more packages to go so won';t be able to get mythfrontend running tonight :) |
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| [21:39:20] | Juski: | jees this is weird. got my nfsroot, great... made a sylink from where my videos are kept (/media) to /mnt/video on the nfsrooted machine... it's not working :-/ |
| [21:40:09] | gardengnome: | well. |
| [21:40:34] | gardengnome: | /media is likely not shared via nfs. symlinks won't work, they only work within one nfs share |
| [21:40:57] | Juski: | ah |
| [21:41:08] | Juski: | btw I'm getting very poor performance here |
| [21:42:00] | gardengnome: | playback? |
| [21:42:01] | Juski: | could I see your fstab please? |
| [21:42:15] | gardengnome: | my fstab? sure. |
| [21:42:39] | Juski: | I've got.. 192.168.1.10:/diskless/s100 / nfs sync,hard,intr,rw,nolock,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 0 0 |
| [21:42:40] | D-side: | i dont suppose this is over wireless? |
| [21:42:40] | gardengnome: | err, wait a second.. my server is offline for some reason. |
| [21:42:53] | Juski: | D-side: whaddya take me for? |
| [21:43:03] | D-side: | heh, fair point. :) |
| [21:43:34] | Juski: | with the rsize & wsize it's much better than before, still not great though.. not as fast as a local disk |
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| [21:44:51] | gardengnome: | Juski: http://pastebin.ca/66981 |
| [21:45:11] | Juski: | ta |
| [21:45:52] | gardengnome: | the tmpfs stuff is for when / is read-only. |
| [21:46:51] | gardengnome: | /recordings is where i symlink my recordings from video_hanomag and video_styx. opening recordings over nfs gives me better performance |
| [21:48:58] | Juski: | better performance how? |
| [21:49:05] | Juski: | quicker to start playing? |
| [21:49:32] | gardengnome: | no. no stuttering ;) |
| [21:49:42] | gardengnome: | cpu usage is probably lower, dunno |
| [21:49:50] | gardengnome: | Juski: BTW, daliman is back. *sigh* |
| [21:50:27] | Juski: | who? |
| [21:51:07] | Juski: | so this 'works' but its nowhere near as good as a local disk |
| [21:51:07] | gardengnome: | Juski: our first and best troll so far. |
| [21:51:15] | Juski: | oh HIM |
| [21:53:11] | scales: | gosh guys i thought i was driving you all crazy |
| [21:53:26] | Juski: | lol you wish |
| [21:53:28] | gardengnome: | scales: oh c'mon, try harder |
| [21:53:37] | gardengnome: | we've been through worse things. |
| [21:53:39] | Juski: | change your name to ubuntu, then you'll be annoying |
| [21:53:55] | gardengnome: | or gentoo, then you'll waste lots of our time |
| [21:54:59] | Juski: | gardengnome: since I've got the same config as you now... |
| [21:55:05] | Juski: | we can swap installs :-P |
| [21:55:31] | gardengnome: | well, would you really want that? ;) |
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| [21:55:44] | scales: | actually everything seems to be good for me, only had a few minor troubles, seems to freeze up if i keep rewinding something that is live, but generally comes back, i told it to record a show, and i think it recorded the wrong one, and finally, i used jarods guide that helped me make that autostart file which had a script to stop the screensaver but it doesnt stop the screensaver |
| [21:56:07] | Juski: | which user has a UID of 0 ? |
| [21:56:11] | Juski: | is it nobody? |
| [21:56:14] | gardengnome: | Juski: root |
| [21:56:19] | gardengnome: | *cough* |
| [21:56:39] | ** gardengnome slaps Juski silly with o'reilly's linux in a nutshell ;) ** | |
| [21:56:49] | Juski: | bah I have no time for books! |
| [21:57:22] | scales: | the main one that bugs me is the screensaver |
| [21:57:27] | gardengnome: | heh, i bought it like half a year ago and i still haven't read it yet |
| [21:57:30] | Juski: | if I did, I wouldn't be using linux |
| [21:57:36] | gardengnome: | scales: are you using some kind of desktop environment? |
| [21:57:52] | scales: | currently i do not have a screen saver but the screen does go blank. yeah i am using kde |
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| [21:58:28] | gardengnome: | scales: did you try to mess with the kde settings? |
| [21:58:46] | Juski: | ooo tcp NFS is MUCH better |
| [21:59:25] | Juski: | right I'm gonna call a halt to the 'dev' work now |
| [21:59:38] | gardengnome: | and open yet another bottle of JD? |
| [21:59:43] | Juski: | and I can put the lid back on the s100 !!! |
| [22:00:00] | scales: | well, i was able to turn off the screen saver, but there must be like a power saver or something. i thought that jarod's "/usr/X11R6/bin/xset s off" would fix it but no |
| [22:00:32] | scales: | i have to use a gui because i dont know enough linux yet |
| [22:00:56] | scales: | i was hoping mythtv would be a good way to get my feet wet |
| [22:01:46] | RaYmAn-Bx: | scales: sure the screen blanking is even X? It might just be the default linux stuff |
| [22:01:59] | gardengnome: | mythtv was a nightmare for me, when i was a linux newbie.. well, i'm still one |
| [22:02:15] | scales: | no i am not sure, hehe like i said i am still learning |
| [22:02:21] | scales: | i don tknow how i would find out |
| [22:06:03] | scales: | well the screen only goes blank when no one is watching tv |
| [22:06:34] | scales: | i think it goes blank if i leave it on weather but dont touch anything |
| [22:08:15] | scales: | i will test it now |
| [22:08:50] | scales: | xine is great though. especially since i found some lircrc that had already wrote it in |
| [22:09:01] | scales: | nicely laid out on the remote |
| [22:09:56] | scales: | though i cant decide if i like the ati remote wonder all that much. my roomate has a hauppauge one that came with his tuner and while it is ir it seems nice |
| [22:10:04] | scales: | anyone prefer ir ofer rf? |
| [22:10:12] | scales: | i am wondering if i should switch |
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| [22:10:51] | gardengnome: | Juski: so. hard disks. mounting them, physically. vertically or horizontally? is it bad to change them from being mounted vertically to horizontally? |
| [22:11:38] | Juski: | nope |
| [22:12:06] | gardengnome: | thanks. |
| [22:12:33] | Juski: | just power em down 1st |
| [22:12:46] | gardengnome: | hehe, k ;) |
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| [22:26:21] | scales: | what kind of remotes are you all using, ir or rf? |
| [22:27:03] | Juski: | ir |
| [22:29:06] | gardengnome: | ir |
| [22:29:41] | scales: | what kind of ir receivers are you using? |
| [22:30:14] | gardengnome: | i use the one that came with my pvr 250 |
| [22:31:33] | scales: | i see, yeah i want to switch to ir, but i dont have a receiver. i thought about buying the wmce remote and using that |
| [22:31:36] | scales: | but i dunno |
| [22:32:55] | scales: | brbr |
| [22:32:55] | Juski: | using a homebrew receiver here |
| [22:33:00] | scales: | oh |
| [22:33:03] | scales: | which? |
| [22:33:05] | Juski: | don't need anything but line of sight |
| [22:33:16] | scales: | yeah i dont really either |
| [22:33:17] | Juski: | homebrew serial port thing |
| [22:33:23] | scales: | serial. i see |
| [22:33:31] | scales: | i was thinking about making a usb one |
| [22:33:54] | scales: | i was reading how you have to flash it..? |
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| [22:35:40] | scales: | then i was thinking about how i could maybe swipe my friends from his hauppauge, it has like a mini headphone jack, and i see there are ways of just plugging it into the sound card and using it |
| [22:35:47] | scales: | i am not sure how hard that would be |
| [22:36:08] | gardengnome: | i'm not sure if that's possible. |
| [22:36:15] | gardengnome: | i fact, i don't think it's possible |
| [22:36:33] | scales: | http://people.inf.ethz.ch/mringwal/lirc/ |
| [22:37:26] | gardengnome: | you'll still need some circuit built around that |
| [22:37:49] | gardengnome: | ok, two resistors and a cap.. |
| [22:37:50] | scales: | a minor one yes |
| [22:38:10] | scales: | i had thought about making the "usb-ir-boy" |
| [22:38:24] | gardengnome: | "The mac is a design object, so adding wires and electronics outside isn't a good idea.". uh. it's a fscking computer. |
| [22:38:55] | D-side: | heh |
| [22:41:23] | scales: | yeah i think my best bet would be to go with the one from microsoft. |
| [22:42:26] | scales: | although this looks very simple |
| [22:42:27] | scales: | http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/html/moddin . . . eceiver.html |
| [22:42:35] | scales: | remarks? |
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| [22:43:53] | gardengnome: | i think i built one according to instrcutions on ocinside.de, but i never finished it. stupid laziness ;) |
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| [22:44:09] | scales: | haha |
| [22:45:40] | gardengnome: | you might want to make sure that the usb receiver will work with lirc. a friend of mine made an usb one for me (some 'igor' design) which won't work for me with lirc. it's possible that it's pebkac, though |
| [22:46:48] | scales: | yeah i see the igor one |
| [22:47:39] | Juski: | gardengnome: btw.. the system.pcf info is wrong somewhere |
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| [22:49:07] | gardengnome: | Juski: :/ i need to make my own anyways. there's support for different configs, btw. it would be awesome if you could switch to a different config while X is running |
| [22:49:23] | gardengnome: | have you tried this gui util yet? |
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| [22:51:33] | Juski: | no not yet |
| [22:55:23] | Juski: | don't have qt3 libs installed! |
| [22:56:17] | gardengnome: | uhm |
| [22:56:24] | gardengnome: | how do you run mythtv then? |
| [22:56:51] | Juski: | ls /usr/lib |grep qt shows nothing |
| [22:57:42] | gardengnome: | i suppose it's in its own directory. |
| [22:58:11] | Juski: | /usr/qt/3/lib |
| [22:58:27] | gardengnome: | :) |
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| [23:09:20] | Juski: | got it working! |
| [23:10:14] | D-side: | great! |
| [23:10:15] | D-side: | what was it |
| [23:10:32] | Juski: | oh that was ages ago |
| [23:10:38] | Juski: | wonky grub |
| [23:10:56] | Juski: | got the intel IEGD util worky :) |
| [23:14:41] | D-side: | i figured you were talking about nfs stuff. |
| [23:14:54] | Juski: | changed the mount type to tcp |
| [23:15:01] | Juski: | that sped it up a lot |
| [23:15:04] | D-side: | oh, wow. |
| [23:15:06] | D-side: | i'm surprised. |
| [23:15:53] | Juski: | hmm I don't even know if this TV here does RGB input |
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| [23:23:20] | Juski: | well, it does apparently, meaning the s100 rgb output mode doesn't work :-/ |
| [23:23:49] | Juski: | gardengnome: does your front panel always flash? |
| [23:23:56] | jajaja-: | would someone be able to give me a hand with my ivtv 0.4.4 error 3 and error 12 --problems loading firmware |
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| [23:26:38] | gaasfet: | hello, I just picked up a PVR-150, i started reading about starting it up, I got the ivtv modules loaded etc, but windoze just BSOD-reboots |
| [23:27:49] | Juski: | windoze? |
| [23:28:18] | Juski: | that's you on my ignore list already. well done |
| [23:28:57] | gaasfet: | say what? |
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| [23:30:10] | Juski: | what? |
| [23:31:09] | gaasfet: | widoze=windows |
| [23:31:19] | Juski: | this is a linux channel |
| [23:31:28] | gaasfet: | I know |
| [23:31:47] | Juski: | so you won't get help for 'windoze' here |
| [23:31:56] | gaasfet: | I apt-got mythtv but I have some hardware issues |
| [23:32:04] | Juski: | on windoze? well done! |
| [23:32:48] | jajaja-: | anyone know how I can fix the error 3 and 12 when i run dmesg for ivtv |
| [23:33:19] | jajaja-: | it says unable to open firmware |
| [23:33:43] | Juski: | jajaja-: usually something simple, like you didn't put the firmware in the right place for your distro |
| [23:34:19] | jajaja-: | i have it set as /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| [23:34:48] | jajaja-: | and i doulbe checked to make sure I didnt have my 1 and l's mixed up |
| [23:34:59] | jajaja-: | so ive been at this for hours and im pretty stumped ;( |
| [23:35:30] | Juski: | jajaja-: in the ivtv docs it tells you how to find out which dir to use.. did you do that? |
| [23:35:47] | jajaja-: | yes im using 0.4.4 so it says to use it there for it |
| [23:36:53] | jajaja-: | when i type "ls -ltra /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware all the right files are in there |
| [23:37:15] | Juski: | is the hotplug kernel module present & loaded? |
| [23:37:37] | radi0head: | jajaja-; cat /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent | grep -i firmware_dir |
| [23:37:49] | radi0head: | Juski; Hi. |
| [23:38:10] | radi0head: | jajaja-; What does FIRMWARE_DIR= points to? |
| [23:38:32] | jajaja-: | im sorry i am not sure what you mean |
| [23:38:39] | radi0head: | cat /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent | grep -i firmware_dir |
| [23:38:51] | jajaja-: | type that in the terminal? |
| [23:38:53] | radi0head: | ... |
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| [23:39:19] | BSG75: | hi is there a way to clear out Show listing that says file not found? |
| [23:39:31] | jajaja-: | i dont see it there radi0head |
| [23:39:40] | radi0head: | jajaja-; You don't see what. |
| [23:39:56] | jajaja-: | cat etc/hotplug |
| [23:40:14] | radi0head: | jajaja-; Open the file /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent and look for the string: FIRMWARE_DIR= |
| [23:40:59] | jajaja-: | it doesnt exist...maybe i didnt install it? |
| [23:41:06] | radi0head: | Impossible. |
| [23:41:33] | radi0head: | PAste the output of ls -al /etc/hotplug in mythtv.pastebin.com |
| [23:42:12] | jajaja-: | says no file or directory |
| [23:42:25] | radi0head: | Well there's your problem. |
| [23:42:26] | Anduin: | jajaja-: which distro? |
| [23:43:11] | jajaja-: | distro meaning ivtv version? |
| [23:43:21] | Anduin: | jajaja-: meaning linux distro |
| [23:43:25] | radi0head: | lol |
| [23:43:33] | jajaja-: | 2.6.15–25.386 |
| [23:43:39] | radi0head: | haha |
| [23:43:50] | jajaja-: | haha sorry guys I just started this for the first time ever today |
| [23:44:00] | Anduin: | jajaja-: fedora, debian, etc |
| [23:44:02] | radi0head: | jajaja-; I noticed :D |
| [23:44:08] | jajaja-: | ubuntu |
| [23:44:20] | jajaja-: | 6.06 |
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| [23:46:15] | Anduin: | jajaja-: You don't have hotplug udev does it all, the dir is probably /lib/firmware |
| [23:46:37] | jajaja-: | so i should move all the firmware to that directory |
| [23:47:01] | Anduin: | jajaja-: does it exist? |
| [23:47:05] | jajaja-: | yes |
| [23:47:18] | jajaja-: | and has my linux kernel 2.6.15 folder in there |
| [23:47:26] | Anduin: | Then it would be a better guess (sorry I don't ubuntu) |
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| [23:47:40] | jajaja-: | thank you for the advice, i will give it a try |
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| [23:50:47] | jajaja-: | no luck still |
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| [23:55:41] | ru: | What do you guys think is the coolest grub loading theme for myth? |
| [23:55:44] | Anduin: | jajaja-: You dropped the right files in /lib/firmware, and reloaded the ivtv module? |
| [23:56:37] | jajaja-: | i ran dmesg |
| [23:57:25] | Anduin: | build a paste page with ls -l /lib/firmware and the last bit of dmesg from your last reload |
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| [23:58:59] | jajaja-: | okay thanks..let me try |
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