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| [00:10:58] | jonn3: | gardengnome: nothing has changed:( |
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| [00:12:19] | jonn3: | does the mythtvbackend have to run in order to complete mythfilldatase ? |
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| [00:12:54] | xris: | jonn3: not really |
| [00:13:03] | jonn3: | k |
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| [00:23:18] | jonn3: | ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 17070, errno = 32 |
| [00:24:10] | jonn3: | when running mythfilldatabase --manual it quits with that message, and Error rescheduling id -1 in ScheduledRecording::signalChange |
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| [00:59:06] | Mersault: | for some reason mythtv isn't responding to my remote, but if I run irw I see the codes being sent, and lircd is running, and .lircrc is symlinked to .mythtv/lircrc, so what else should I look for to diagnose this? |
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| [01:21:07] | brick_: | What is a good/compatible remote control unit to buy for a myth box |
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| [01:33:59] | fysa: | I love my Logitech Harmony 360. |
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| [01:40:31] | Dug02: | can dvb drivers be used for analog? |
| [01:42:06] | Juski: | nope, nope, and thrice nope |
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| [02:01:24] | achew22: | kormoc: are you a gentoo guy? |
| [02:01:40] | kormoc: | aye |
| [02:01:50] | achew22: | do you know of any good tutorials for setting up lircd in gentoo? |
| [02:01:50] | dev: | lilo stop spamming :) |
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| [02:03:34] | achew22: | I'll take that as a no |
| [02:04:04] | dev: | asche22: did you try gentoo-wiki.com? |
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| [02:04:08] | dev: | there's lots of docs on there |
| [02:04:13] | achew22: | okay. Thanks |
| [02:04:45] | dev: | no prob, good site |
| [02:06:10] | achew22: | dev: do you know where my .config file went? its not in /usr/src/linux do I need to make another? |
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| [02:08:28] | dev: | it could be in /etc/kernels |
| [02:08:31] | dev: | if you use genkernel |
| [02:09:05] | achew22: | I used genkernel but that folder doesn't exist |
| [02:09:15] | achew22: | I just did a make configure and went with the dfaults |
| [02:09:18] | achew22: | defaults* |
| [02:10:10] | dev: | there's one last place, like /usr/share/kernel or something i dont remember oiff the top of my head |
| [02:10:42] | dev: | most people have /etc/kernels though |
| [02:11:13] | dev: | ah, i think its /usr/share/genkernel |
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| [02:11:45] | achew22: | could my .config file be in /boot? |
| [02:12:21] | dev: | it could, but its not likely |
| [02:12:48] | kormoc: | your config file should be in /use/src/linux/.config |
| [02:13:00] | achew22: | kormoc: alas its not |
| [02:13:12] | kormoc: | do you have /usr/src/linux? |
| [02:13:15] | achew22: | yes |
| [02:13:27] | achew22: | it points to linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r9 |
| [02:13:28] | dev: | he used genkernel, so i thought /etc/kernels or /usr/share/genkernel |
| [02:13:38] | kormoc: | don't beleive so |
| [02:13:38] | dev: | would have to be in one of those i thought... tho i dont use genkernel |
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| [02:17:09] | semee: | anyone get the pcHDTV-3000 card working with dvb drivers? |
| [02:17:19] | semee: | I just built the drivers and installed them but the card won't work |
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| [02:23:49] | achew22: | dev: do you use gentoo? |
| [02:24:38] | dev: | yes |
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| [02:25:59] | achew22: | would you be willing to help me setup lirc? |
| [02:26:09] | dev: | are you going to pay me? |
| [02:26:15] | dev: | or do you mean for free |
| [02:26:24] | dev: | (i get paid to do this stuff for living) hehe |
| [02:26:29] | achew22: | I'll give you my love and admiration |
| [02:26:34] | achew22: | dev: as do I |
| [02:26:47] | dev: | then i'll answer your questions if im around but i wont set it up for ya :) |
| [02:27:07] | dev: | though, if they're questions that are easily answered by reading the documentation...... |
| [02:27:25] | dev: | since you do this for a living you understand what i mean im sure |
| [02:27:25] | achew22: | Dev: I couldn't ask for more. I just emerged lirc with the serial driver. Now when I modprobe lirc_serial it says fatal module not found |
| [02:27:46] | achew22: | dev: yes... very much so |
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| [02:28:12] | dev: | hrm well thats no good, you verified it compiled and its in your modules dir and stuff? |
| [02:28:36] | achew22: | where would my modules dir be? |
| [02:28:59] | dev: | you could use find if you didnt know |
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| [02:30:14] | achew22: | "locate lirc_" doesn't return anything |
| [02:30:56] | dev: | it wouldnt if you just tried to install it and didnt run updatedb manually, as the locate database ise only updated automatically once a day |
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| [02:31:17] | dev: | locate's only useful for files over time |
| [02:31:26] | dev: | find is better. |
| [02:31:33] | dev: | as i said ;p |
| [02:31:52] | achew22: | I'm a linux newb... I'm a windows guy during the day |
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| [02:32:21] | semee: | what settings should I use in mythtv if I want to be able to see my cable tv through my pcHDTV-3000 card |
| [02:33:05] | semee: | I have gone and ran a dtvscan and it just prints out a lot of channels |
| [02:33:28] | dev: | if you wanted to use locate, you could do like locate modules |more |
| [02:33:32] | semee: | but when I set the capture card to DVB DTV capture card (v3.x) I can't play anything using mythtv |
| [02:33:38] | dev: | since there's so many modules it will be easy to see as you scroll through |
| [02:34:31] | dev: | semee: mythfrontend doesnt tell you anything about why you cant play anything useing mythtv? |
| [02:35:22] | semee: | when I start mythbackend the only error I see is "DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for mplex 32767 |
| [02:35:29] | sunnyhours4130: | Anyone have the link for the paste utility for this channel? |
| [02:35:36] | semee: | and DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 1 |
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| [02:35:53] | Kelerion: | it's in the topic |
| [02:36:05] | semee: | when I run the mythfrontend everything starts but when I click on the tv link nothing happens |
| [02:36:13] | sunnyhours4130: | thanks kel |
| [02:36:33] | dev: | semee: did you set the starting to channel to something other than channel 1? |
| [02:36:46] | semee: | I don't know where that is |
| [02:36:50] | dev: | mythtv-setup |
| [02:36:54] | Aid`: | hey — this is a non mythtv question, but i mounted my 2nd hd and i deleted everything but it only says 8.5gb free. It also says 71gigs used, but when i select everything on it, it only says 30 gigs used. whats wrong? |
| [02:36:59] | dev: | input connections |
| [02:37:21] | dev: | Aid`: are you asking a windows questions? |
| [02:37:32] | dev: | question. |
| [02:37:33] | Aid`: | never mind sorry |
| [02:37:40] | dev: | heh :P |
| [02:37:41] | Aid`: | i didn't know of the folder |
| [02:37:41] | Aid`: | /mnt/2nd/.Trash-root |
| [02:37:52] | Aid`: | :P just looked in ~/.Trash |
| [02:37:53] | semee: | same error |
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| [02:37:58] | dev: | oh, you're useing some filemanager |
| [02:38:05] | Aid`: | ya |
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| [02:38:45] | semee: | the only error I see from mythfrontend is "TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started" and "EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo |
| [02:38:45] | Aid`: | mythtv is quite a wonderful progra |
| [02:38:50] | [LiFE]: | sigh, I got the worst combination of media pc ever |
| [02:38:56] | Aid`: | i can't believe iwas about to code my own tv recorder program |
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| [02:39:09] | Aid`: | it was going to parse directv.com tv guide |
| [02:39:19] | [LiFE]: | Asus A8N-VM CSM (AD1986A sound issues), LeadTEK PVR2000 (Conexant Blackbird) |
| [02:39:27] | [LiFE]: | argh... pi$$es me off |
| [02:39:47] | semee: | I had it working over the v4l drivers but the image quality was aweful and the pcHDTV site said to use the dvb drivers |
| [02:39:57] | sunnyhours4130: | Can anyone take a look at an error message when I try to run mythbackend? http://pastebin.ca/raw/65005 |
| [02:40:06] | semee: | I bought the Sony HD Recorder and I'm returning it... the interface blows |
| [02:40:12] | semee: | and quite frankly I don't see the point |
| [02:40:13] | sunnyhours4130: | Was working earlier, but not anymore somehow |
| [02:40:16] | semee: | mythtv rocks |
| [02:40:23] | semee: | if I could get it to work ;) |
| [02:40:23] | [LiFE]: | u know what blows... Blackbird. :( |
| [02:40:28] | dev: | semee: your problem fixed now? |
| [02:40:33] | semee: | dev: no same issue |
| [02:40:41] | dev: | did you set the channel? |
| [02:40:50] | semee: | hrm... it says failed to set channel to 2 |
| [02:40:58] | Aid`: | yeah semee it is a pain to get working, but once you do you'll love it |
| [02:40:58] | semee: | error: channel: '' was not found in the database |
| [02:41:11] | [LiFE]: | there is no ivtv support for blackbird planned huh? |
| [02:41:13] | semee: | Aid`: I have everything working with the exception of tv |
| [02:41:19] | dev: | doesnt sound you setup your input connection correctly heh |
| [02:41:29] | dev: | go through each setting :P |
| [02:41:34] | Aid`: | semee: what is the problem? |
| [02:42:12] | semee: | I just built the dvb drivers... loaded them... and ran mythtv-setup and switched to the dvb drivers but it doesn't work |
| [02:42:32] | semee: | whenever I try to watch tv or when I start mythbackend I get an error |
| [02:42:35] | semee: | one sec |
| [02:42:44] | dev: | fine dont listen to me :) |
| [02:42:46] | dev: | i must be wrong :) |
| [02:42:50] | semee: | do I use the dvb drivers or the pcHDTV drivers? |
| [02:42:55] | [LiFE]: | dev: any help with my isses? :P |
| [02:43:06] | Aid`: | does a HDTV card make that much of a difference? |
| [02:43:38] | dev: | [LiFE]: nope :) |
| [02:43:47] | [LiFE]: | ssiiiiggghhh |
| [02:43:52] | sunnyhours4130: | If I can ping my loopback address, and thats the address being used in mythtv-setup, is there any reason i can't run mythbackend? |
| [02:44:39] | sunnyhours4130: | Get an error telling me to run setup on this machine and change the first page of general settings |
| [02:44:44] | dev: | semee: you probably dont have a video source specified |
| [02:44:48] | semee: | is the frontend ID: Oren OR51132 VSB/QAAM and Frontend Subtype: ATSC right? |
| [02:44:50] | dev: | hence the channel error |
| [02:45:23] | semee: | I defined a video source called "Cable" it is grabbing xmltv listings from datadirect |
| [02:45:38] | [LiFE]: | anyone knows what is the diff between PVR500 and PVR250 other than dual tuner support? |
| [02:45:39] | semee: | the channel frequency table is set to default |
| [02:45:43] | jerky_2: | Aid`, yes, HDTV cards make a big difference – you can view HDTV :) |
| [02:45:51] | semee: | [LiFE]: doesn't the pvr500 have dual tuners |
| [02:46:09] | [LiFE]: | yah, thinking about getting one |
| [02:46:13] | semee: | [LiFE]: the web site has a nice matrix comparing the cards |
| [02:46:20] | Aid`: | yeah well thats if you have HD avaliavle |
| [02:46:26] | jams: | For those that care the syth-blue-wide theme is now ready for download at jmeyer.us |
| [02:46:28] | Aid`: | otherwise there's no pt |
| [02:48:15] | semee: | hrm... |
| [02:49:07] | jerky_2: | Aid`, true, what kind of OTA HD do you have in your area? i have 9 good channels (not counting the religious crap), and about 6 of those broadcast in HD regularly (primetime + sports) |
| [02:49:10] | semee: | do I use us-cable or us-broadcast? |
| [02:49:20] | jerky_2: | semee, you using cable TV or antenna TV? |
| [02:49:36] | semee: | I have cable tv connected but not through the cable box right now |
| [02:49:39] | semee: | do I need that? |
| [02:50:13] | jerky_2: | it's your choice, choose us-cable if you want the channels to line up with what your cable provider offers, or us-bcast if you want the channels to match what is broadcast over the air in your area |
| [02:51:20] | [LiFE]: | what's a good sound card for myth? |
| [02:51:39] | [LiFE]: | m-audio revolution? |
| [02:51:41] | jams: | the chaintech 710 works well |
| [02:51:48] | jerky_2: | i just use onboard audio |
| [02:51:50] | jams: | so does the m-audio |
| [02:52:26] | jams: | [LiFE]- do you plan on spdif out? |
| [02:52:30] | semee: | ok us-cable it is |
| [02:52:47] | semee: | I'm going to try and reload the dvb drivers to see if the v4l drivers were conflicting |
| [02:52:49] | [LiFE]: | no.. |
| [02:52:56] | [LiFE]: | just analog 5.1 |
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| [02:53:07] | dev: | heh |
| [02:53:48] | dev: | error, does not compute, mutually exclusive |
| [02:53:50] | [LiFE]: | I got mythtv working with my audio and my tuner card... |
| [02:53:54] | [LiFE]: | just doesn't look pretty |
| [02:54:07] | semee: | [LiFE]: I had the same problem |
| [02:54:14] | semee: | [LiFE]: have you tried tvtime... |
| [02:54:23] | semee: | I loaded both and tvtime looked great as far as picture quality |
| [02:54:26] | semee: | not sure how |
| [02:54:34] | [LiFE]: | tvtime? |
| [02:54:55] | semee: | yeah check it out |
| [02:55:52] | [LiFE]: | not going to help. :( |
| [02:56:07] | [LiFE]: | especially if both audio and tvtuner card doesn't work in linux in the first place |
| [02:56:32] | dev: | then i doubt you got mythtv working with your tuner card |
| [02:56:40] | [LiFE]: | I got it, just choppy |
| [02:56:43] | [LiFE]: | using V4L |
| [02:57:00] | [LiFE]: | and no hardware encoder support |
| [02:57:19] | dev: | so it works, just not well :) |
| [02:57:34] | Beirdo: | xris: what's the site for checking for HDTV OTA coverage again? |
| [02:57:52] | [LiFE]: | sames goes for the onboard audio for A8N-VM CSM, the AD1986A chipset works, but only 2 channel audio |
| [02:59:16] | [LiFE]: | I am starting to respect RealTEK audio chips alittle more each passing day |
| [02:59:18] | semee: | what should I see if I'm using dtvsignal 2 |
| [02:59:27] | semee: | it basically shows me Signal: 000 . |
| [02:59:30] | semee: | not sure what that is |
| [03:00:08] | semee: | it would appear that means the signal strength is 0 |
| [03:00:11] | semee: | is that right? |
| [03:01:06] | sunnyhours4130: | How big is the typical data grab from mythfilldatabase? |
| [03:01:13] | semee: | whats this... or51132: Waiting for firmware upload(dvb-fe-or51132-qam.fw |
| [03:01:18] | semee: | thats what I see in dmesg |
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| [03:02:26] | Aid`: | so is there any way to get a 30 minute episode in nuv format (directly recorded using mythtv) under the usual 1.6gigs? |
| [03:03:13] | Aid`: | sunnyhours4130: its not big i went like 1 week and it too kabout 10minutes on dialup(considering i only had about 20channels) |
| [03:03:43] | Aid`: | it was like 100kb per day |
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| [03:04:07] | semee: | ok I just reloaded the drivers and all appears ok with dmesg |
| [03:05:19] | semee: | arggg same error |
| [03:05:29] | semee: | this is frustrating... could this be a corrupt database issue |
| [03:05:32] | semee: | or something... |
| [03:05:33] | Aid`: | :/ |
| [03:06:31] | Aid`: | are you new to linux too? |
| [03:06:58] | sunnyhours4130: | Aid`: Looks like for each grab, the progress bar thing isn't making it to the end. usually stops about a quarter of the way down |
| [03:08:06] | jams: | Beirdo- I thought it was antenna.org but the site sure looks different then last time I looked at it |
| [03:08:22] | Beirdo: | antennaweb.org |
| [03:08:24] | Beirdo: | found it :) |
| [03:08:26] | Beirdo: | thanks :) |
| [03:08:52] | semee: | Aid`: me? |
| [03:10:27] | jams: | still doesn't look like the site I was thinking of, but if it's working for you.... |
| [03:10:47] | sunnyhours4130: | D'oh..... mythfilldatabase finished but i forgot to run mythbackend first lol |
| [03:11:10] | semee: | its trying to upload the firmware that has to be the issue |
| [03:13:19] | [LiFE]: | I just saw something interesting.. |
| [03:13:22] | [LiFE]: | about my soundcar |
| [03:13:38] | semee: | where do I put the firmware drivers for the pcHDTV card? I have it in /lib/firmware |
| [03:15:17] | [LiFE]: | one last question... does MythTV plays MKV(OGG/H264) and MP4 files? |
| [03:15:26] | [LiFE]: | or divx and stuff, coz none of mines seems to work |
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| [03:17:32] | dtm: | hi guys. do you know offhand whether mythbackend works on macos with arbitrary usb devices such as WinTV PVR USB2? i have it working with Hauppauge's proprietary app but i dont think it subscribes to quicktime or whatever. |
| [03:17:40] | dtm: | i dont see any indication via google |
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| [03:20:14] | Beirdo: | I guess I'll put the antenna on the air2pc tomorrow and try it out |
| [03:20:22] | Beirdo: | I'm too zonked to bother tonight |
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| [03:23:22] | Aid`: | is 'Transcode using Auto-Detect' best? |
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| [03:28:49] | xris: | Beirdo: antennaweb.org ? |
| [03:30:54] | Beirdo: | yeah, I found it, thanks :0 |
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| [03:47:11] | xris: | so... $70 to get a dish, bracket and 2 lnb's... or buy them separately and not get a dish... |
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| [03:50:24] | xris: | oh. $25 difference in shipping price. heh. |
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| [04:03:26] | ** xris has no more shows recorded on his mythbox ** | |
| [04:04:33] | marmoset: | heh |
| [04:04:38] | marmoset: | tv marathon? :) |
| [04:05:34] | xris: | nope, just managed to keep up with watching/archiving. |
| [04:05:46] | ** xris needs someone who knows about satellite stuff... ** | |
| [04:09:11] | Aid`: | xris: directv? |
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| [04:09:15] | xris: | Aid`: FTA |
| [04:09:24] | Aid`: | whats FTA |
| [04:09:27] | xris: | free to air |
| [04:09:32] | xris: | meaning free/unencrypted satellite |
| [04:09:38] | Aid`: | usa? |
| [04:09:40] | xris: | yes |
| [04:09:47] | Aid`: | what hcannels does it have? |
| [04:09:53] | xris: | Aid`: lyngsat.com |
| [04:10:06] | j3g: | anyone know if ivtv 0.6.2 is V4L ou V4L2 ? |
| [04:10:14] | xris: | mainly just need to know if my dishnetwork branded dish will attach to the generic dual lnb bracket at cyberestore or if I need to get that dish, too. |
| [04:11:02] | xris: | j3g: no, it's ivtv |
| [04:11:21] | j3g: | xris: hmm so no v4l interface ? |
| [04:11:28] | j3g: | do you know how to play it on vlc? |
| [04:12:02] | xris: | j3g: vlc /dev/video0 ? works with mplayer |
| [04:12:30] | j3g: | xris: hmmm i tried opening it on the vlc interface |
| [04:12:34] | j3g: | but not directly |
| [04:12:57] | Aid`: | xris: are there any good free channels? |
| [04:12:59] | xris: | most of the time for testing we just encourage people to cat it to a file |
| [04:13:07] | xris: | Aid`: a few. mostly just curious about experimenting. |
| [04:13:23] | Aid`: | mind pointing me in the right direction? |
| [04:13:31] | xris: | Aid`: it's on lyngsat.com |
| [04:13:47] | xris: | different satellites, different content. |
| [04:14:06] | Aid`: | Future TV USA |
| [04:14:13] | Aid`: | is that USA Network? |
| [04:14:15] | xris: | dishnetwork are 119 and 110, bellexpressvu are 82 and 91 |
| [04:14:20] | xris: | unlikely |
| [04:14:55] | Aid`: | hmm NBC not bad |
| [04:14:57] | kormoc: | isn't future tv that arabic station? |
| [04:15:03] | Aid`: | i dont get nbc out here |
| [04:15:16] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
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| [04:15:19] | Aid`: | "Starz West" |
| [04:15:24] | kormoc: | you're just in MI... |
| [04:15:28] | Aid`: | does that mean stars movie channel is free?? |
| [04:16:02] | Aid`: | so? |
| [04:16:11] | kormoc: | that's not very out there |
| [04:16:13] | LoneShadow: | which faq/howto is good about installing packages just for a FE ? |
| [04:16:26] | tank-man: | fe? |
| [04:16:34] | LoneShadow: | mythtv front end |
| [04:16:36] | Aid`: | well, kormoc i dont get any local channels on directv and my bunny ears only pick up a fuzzy channel |
| [04:16:46] | marmoset: | xris: you've got cable now, ya? looking at switching to sat? |
| [04:16:49] | xris: | Aid`: that lists all channels. the free ones are marked |
| [04:16:55] | xris: | marmoset: cable now, used to have dish. |
| [04:17:05] | xris: | now I have a dish on my house, figured I could play with it. |
| [04:17:07] | Aid`: | wow VH1 Indonesia lol |
| [04:17:09] | marmoset: | ah, cool |
| [04:17:09] | marmoset: | neat |
| [04:17:10] | tank-man: | LoneShadow, the main faq/howto one tells what you need |
| [04:17:32] | Aid`: | if you guys hook up cable to your mythbox does ur tv signal get tied up? |
| [04:17:38] | xris: | I actually bought a dvb card back when I still had Dish, but their diseqc switch is incompatible with computer stuff |
| [04:17:47] | xris: | Aid`: digital cable box -> firewire |
| [04:18:05] | xris: | and even if it was analog, no. just split the signal |
| [04:18:06] | marmoset: | xris: did you try cable -> dvb ? |
| [04:18:11] | Aid`: | so you can watch 2 different channel? |
| [04:18:13] | xris: | no.. not compatible |
| [04:18:20] | xris: | Aid`: if I had a second HD box, yes. |
| [04:18:25] | xris: | or if I had analog and two tuners. |
| [04:18:31] | Aid`: | for the same price? |
| [04:18:33] | Aid`: | GOD DIRECTV SUX |
| [04:18:47] | marmoset: | xris: really? seems to be working here, was just curious about signal quality/decoding issues with pchdtv vs firewire |
| [04:18:57] | xris: | marmoset: pchdtv != dvb |
| [04:19:03] | marmoset: | oh |
| [04:19:10] | ** marmoset still doesn't really know all of it ** | |
| [04:19:13] | xris: | it just happens to use the dvb driver as an interface |
| [04:19:15] | Aid`: | so how does HDTV look? i never seen it bvefore |
| [04:19:16] | marmoset: | ah, gotcha |
| [04:19:25] | marmoset: | xris: didn't you have a pchdtv tho? |
| [04:19:30] | marmoset: | I could be misremembering |
| [04:19:30] | xris: | I had an air2pc |
| [04:19:32] | marmoset: | ah ok |
| [04:19:34] | marmoset: | cool |
| [04:19:35] | xris: | gave it to Beirdo |
| [04:19:42] | mchou: | Aid`: walk into any circuit city :) |
| [04:19:42] | Aid`: | what did that do xris |
| [04:19:58] | xris: | Aid`: air2pc is just another hdtv card for over the air hdtv |
| [04:20:04] | Aid`: | mchou: the closest is 100miles away |
| [04:20:14] | Aid`: | yeah i dont have any hdtv around here :xz |
| [04:20:19] | mchou: | Aid`: where you live? Alaska? |
| [04:20:32] | Aid`: | the upper part of michigan, the upper penninsula |
| [04:20:41] | xris: | marmoset: with firewire, I get all channels in digital, even the sd stuff. |
| [04:20:58] | marmoset: | xris: yeah, I've got that going now, for the ones that offer it |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | Aid`: umm, MI must be depressed |
| [04:21:14] | Aid`: | the lower penninsula is fine but it stinks up here |
| [04:21:20] | mchou: | not to have CC for over 100mi. |
| [04:21:25] | xris: | marmoset: really? I thought you could only get the OTA and digital stuff. |
| [04:21:28] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:21:31] | xris: | Aid`: cable |
| [04:21:45] | xris: | marmoset: this way, I get hbo, etc. |
| [04:21:48] | kormoc: | Aid`, it's more the insane druggies in MI that are the sucky part |
| [04:21:55] | Aid`: | once i graduate highschool and then college im off to a bigger city |
| [04:21:56] | marmoset: | xris: that's what I meant, sorry, just that I've got the broadcast channels in digital, not just the hdtv channels |
| [04:22:14] | marmoset: | xris: I've just got an unreasonable prejudice against firewire, I dunno why ;) |
| [04:22:27] | xris: | marmoset: all of our broadcast channels here are HD (well, *when* they're hd) |
| [04:22:30] | mchou: | Aid`: why not jumpstart that process by going to college in big town :) |
| [04:22:31] | xris: | heh |
| [04:22:44] | marmoset: | xris: yeah, plus the like 12 kcts ones ;) |
| [04:22:47] | xris: | yes |
| [04:22:58] | Aid`: | mchou: well the school iwant to go to is even more isolated than the town im in now, but it is one of the top 10 schools in the nation :/ |
| [04:23:13] | mchou: | Aid`: which school is that? |
| [04:23:25] | marmoset: | xris: so what if you want more than one firewire box, will they give you more than one? |
| [04:23:26] | xris: | and the stupid king5 one that always shows the camera on the space needle and a traffic/weather scroller |
| [04:23:27] | Aid`: | top ten school for technology: Michigan Tech University |
| [04:23:39] | mchou: | Aid`: never heard of it |
| [04:23:40] | xris: | marmoset: sure. you just have to pay the $10/month rental fee for an HD box |
| [04:23:53] | marmoset: | xris: ah, ok, so you do have to have the HD service? |
| [04:24:00] | marmoset: | I have digital cable, but not hdtv |
| [04:24:11] | Aid`: | im starting to think it might just be easier to get a Tivo than doing it this way |
| [04:24:11] | xris: | HD is the box, not the service. |
| [04:24:19] | xris: | you get HD with all the digital packages. |
| [04:24:25] | marmoset: | ah |
| [04:24:35] | xris: | if you want to experiment, standard -> hd is only a $5 upgrade. |
| [04:24:39] | marmoset: | it's so weird how it's all so black magic and messages whispered between each other or whatever |
| [04:24:42] | xris: | it's $5 for a second box and $5 for an hd upgrade to that box |
| [04:25:10] | mchou: | I dont think a 2nd box is worth it economically |
| [04:25:23] | xris: | mchou: unless you're like me and want one to watch tv and one for mythtv. |
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| [04:25:52] | mchou: | I mean $10/mo, in 10 months it'd pay to get FusionHDTV |
| [04:26:15] | marmoset: | xris: I'll check out the firewire option if I can ever get myth to be happy recording hdtv stuff, then start bugging you about it ;) |
| [04:26:15] | mchou: | but 1st STB @$5 makes sense |
| [04:26:25] | xris: | mchou: which doesn't get you the SD channels |
| [04:26:33] | xris: | I don't record HD |
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| [04:26:54] | mchou: | xris: umm, once you get HD you wont bother with SD :) |
| [04:27:10] | Aid`: | how big are 30miunte HDTV shows? |
| [04:27:12] | xris: | mchou: sure I will. most of the shows I watch don't come in HD |
| [04:27:21] | xris: | Aid`: for 1080i, it's about 9.6G per hour |
| [04:27:23] | Aid`: | using mythtv |
| [04:27:26] | marmoset: | xris: it actually works great most of the time, then something happens and mythbackend goes crazy and uses all the cpu it can get, shows don't stop recording for hours because the threads are all too busy to stop, etc |
| [04:27:38] | xris: | marmoset: heh |
| [04:27:53] | marmoset: | quality's nice tho |
| [04:28:02] | xris: | yes |
| [04:28:08] | Aid`: | wow that is insane xris |
| [04:28:09] | mchou: | marmoset: that 'something' is probably mythcommflag chokingon a bad stream |
| [04:28:16] | marmoset: | mchou: maybe |
| [04:28:27] | marmoset: | I think transcode is more likely tho |
| [04:28:30] | xris: | Aid`: that's what HD is... the signal is digital already, so all recordings are pretty much the same size |
| [04:29:32] | marmoset: | mchou: it's pretty bad tho, all system cpu, futex stuff I think, hard to really do much debugging |
| [04:29:47] | mchou: | marmoset: just swith to firewire already |
| [04:29:47] | Aid`: | i got a quick question: i went to 'POST RECORDING PROCESS' then i made it say "TRANSCODE NEW RECORDINGS" then "TRANSCODE USING AUTO-DETECT" |
| [04:29:54] | mchou: | switch* |
| [04:29:56] | Aid`: | so that will capture a show then encode it right away? |
| [04:30:10] | marmoset: | mchou: the stuff I read said that firewire had more errors if anything |
| [04:30:12] | mchou: | marmoset: who is your cableco? |
| [04:30:15] | marmoset: | comcast |
| [04:30:25] | mchou: | marmoset: where you live? |
| [04:30:28] | marmoset: | seattle |
| [04:30:45] | mchou: | marmoset: hell ya, get firewire |
| [04:31:03] | xris: | Aid`: encode into what? "recording" is "encoding" |
| [04:31:27] | mchou: | marmoset: I dont think firewire is any worse than pc HDTV tuners |
| [04:31:29] | Aid`: | i mean will it transcode right away |
| [04:31:34] | marmoset: | mchou: I may look at it, I've already spent my "messing around time" on mythtv for a month or two |
| [04:31:36] | marmoset: | never enough time ;) |
| [04:31:55] | mchou: | marmoset: what ver kernel you using? |
| [04:32:33] | marmoset: | for the hdtv test machine, 2.6.15-chw-2 |
| [04:32:36] | marmoset: | (knoppmyth) |
| [04:32:38] | mchou: | marmoset: if you use a recent enough kernel firewire is pretty much plug and play |
| [04:32:53] | Aid`: | so with those settings it will 'transcode' and the file will be smaller? |
| [04:32:54] | marmoset: | yeah, I just don't like it ;) |
| [04:32:59] | marmoset: | no reason for it |
| [04:33:06] | xris: | Aid`: that depends on what your transcode settings are |
| [04:33:22] | xris: | pretty sure that "auto detect" means that it will just cut out the commercials (which you wouldn't have marked yet) |
| [04:33:31] | Aid`: | i didn't set any |
| [04:33:45] | xris: | and transcode != smaller... transcode == different. smaller depends on your settings. |
| [04:34:04] | xris: | Aid`: what type of tuner card? |
| [04:34:04] | Aid`: | there's "auto detect" |
| [04:34:05] | Aid`: | "high quality" |
| [04:34:05] | Aid`: | "medium quality |
| [04:34:05] | Aid`: | "low" |
| [04:34:05] | Aid`: | "transcode-archival" |
| [04:34:14] | Aid`: | bt878 |
| [04:34:23] | mchou: | sigh |
| [04:35:20] | marmoset: | I wish that computer hardware would freeze, and there would be no more new development, just bugfixes, for like a year |
| [04:35:26] | xris: | Aid`: with software encode, just encode at lower quality to start with. |
| [04:35:28] | marmoset: | that would make me happy. |
| [04:35:49] | Aid`: | xris: how do i encode it lower to start with? |
| [04:35:52] | mchou: | marmoset: umm, it's easy. dont buy any new HW :) |
| [04:35:59] | xris: | Aid`: recording profiles. |
| [04:36:04] | marmoset: | mchou: if only that were possible. |
| [04:36:05] | mchou: | marmoset: that'd be a freeze |
| [04:36:16] | LoneShadow: | anyone using pinaccle dc30 card ? |
| [04:36:20] | marmoset: | new customers, new hardware, etc |
| [04:36:35] | marmoset: | I'd love it if everyone switched to a debian style release cycle too ;) |
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| [04:36:48] | xris: | marmoset: you mean like centos and rhel? |
| [04:36:55] | marmoset: | xris: sure, anything slow |
| [04:37:03] | marmoset: | xris: I like debian better tho :) |
| [04:37:10] | xris: | well, you have 3 choices, though. |
| [04:37:11] | marmoset: | freebsd used to be like that |
| [04:37:18] | xris: | wouldn't recommend anything else for enterprise use, anyway. |
| [04:37:24] | marmoset: | yeah, totally |
| [04:37:25] | Aid`: | xris: how do i set it |
| [04:37:40] | xris: | Aid`: it should be pretty self explanatory... |
| [04:38:00] | Aid`: | if it was would i be asking |
| [04:38:05] | xris: | livetv + default + high + low.... go into each of those and set them up. |
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| [04:38:23] | Aid`: | ok.. |
| [04:38:26] | xris: | Aid`: then ask a more specific question like "what does bitrate mean?" |
| [04:38:30] | Aid`: | then how do i make it go to one of them? |
| [04:38:36] | Aid`: | i know what bitrate is |
| [04:38:37] | xris: | "make it go..."? |
| [04:38:49] | xris: | you choose the profile when you schedule a recording. |
| [04:38:59] | xris: | it's one of the options you have to choose. otherwise, it goes to, well, default... |
| [04:39:09] | marmoset: | Aid`: I'd really recommend just playing with mythtv for a week, then asking questions |
| [04:39:10] | xris: | unless you're watching live tv, in which case it's LiveTV |
| [04:39:11] | Aid`: | ok |
| [04:39:17] | marmoset: | Aid`: it's a complicated system ;) |
| [04:39:19] | Aid`: | sorry :s |
| [04:39:22] | marmoset: | no problem |
| [04:39:28] | Aid`: | it can be until you get the hang of it |
| [04:39:31] | marmoset: | just saying, it's a lot of stuff to learn, easiest hands on |
| [04:40:41] | Aid`: | so i should mess with |
| [04:40:42] | Aid`: | "Post recording Processing" |
| [04:40:46] | Aid`: | shouldn't** |
| [04:40:48] | miwl: | xris: just skimmed your FTA stuff above. Unless you know something I don't, I don't think you can use a Dish Network dish for FTA. |
| [04:40:55] | xris: | Aid`: not until you know about the pre-recording setup stuff |
| [04:41:05] | xris: | miwl: a dish is a dish |
| [04:41:28] | Aid`: | ok ill shutup now :P |
| [04:41:53] | Aid`: | thank you all for being so patient w/me |
| [04:41:58] | miwl: | xris: that would be news to me. Everything I've read indicates you need at minimum a 80cm (~31in) dish |
| [04:41:59] | mchou: | miwl: what do you mean you cant use Dish for FTA? |
| [04:42:02] | xris: | Aid`: that's why we're here |
| [04:42:21] | Aid`: | ;) |
| [04:42:28] | xris: | miwl: depends on the signal you want to receive. I'd be connecting to Dish's satellites.. works fine with 18" dish |
| [04:42:39] | mchou: | miwl: how big is a Dish dish? |
| [04:42:43] | miwl: | xris: that's not FTA then |
| [04:42:48] | miwl: | 18" |
| [04:42:54] | xris: | miwl: sure it si |
| [04:43:10] | miwl: | how is that *free* to air? |
| [04:43:13] | xris: | FTA means no no encryption. there are FTA channels on the dishnetwork ssatellites |
| [04:43:31] | Aid`: | so if im using regular tv (non highdef) what is the recommended widthXheight |
| [04:43:57] | xris: | Aid`: the biggest that your computer can handle encoding, and the smallest that still looks good. |
| [04:43:59] | miwl: | xris: oh, their new mpeg4 streams? |
| [04:44:02] | xris: | 480x480 is a good default |
| [04:44:13] | xris: | miwl: dish uses mpeg2 dvb |
| [04:44:15] | Aid`: | ok i had it on 640X480, is that bad? |
| [04:44:18] | xris: | Aid`: no |
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| [04:44:28] | mchou: | xris: huh?? |
| [04:44:37] | xris: | Aid`: just play around. see how your changes look and take what you think looks best. |
| [04:44:43] | mchou: | xris: I though they had new mp4 |
| [04:44:49] | Aid`: | your right |
| [04:44:54] | mchou: | thought* |
| [04:44:58] | xris: | mchou: maybe experimental... most of their stuff is still mpeg2 |
| [04:45:00] | Aid`: | im gunna run 3 or 4 shows tonight and see how they look tomorrow |
| [04:45:03] | xris: | mpeg4 is directv |
| [04:45:03] | miwl: | xris: As far as I know, they only have a preview channel in the clear and their new satellite that has, I believe, a couple mpeg4 HD channels |
| [04:45:31] | Aid`: | so anyone here watch smallville? |
| [04:45:51] | miwl: | xris: so what is FTA on dish? |
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| [04:46:16] | mchou: | miwl: so you're saying there is really NO FTA on dish? |
| [04:46:24] | Aid`: | be back in 10hours |
| [04:46:34] | xris: | miwl: check out dish 119. bunch of music stuff, nasa channel. |
| [04:46:45] | mchou: | miwl: basically everything is encrypted? |
| [04:46:48] | xris: | bellexpressvu has more on their stuff (they're the canadian branch of echostar) |
| [04:46:57] | miwl: | mchou: I didn't think so. I guess just the couple xris just mentioned |
| [04:48:00] | miwl: | xris: I guess if you have the dish and don't want to buy another. Seems it would make much more sense to point it at a true FTA sat otherwise |
| [04:48:32] | xris: | miwl: again... I can point the dish wherever I want. |
| [04:49:05] | mchou: | xris: yeah, but will it recieve :) |
| [04:49:18] | xris: | mchou: it should just fine, depending on the signal |
| [04:49:20] | miwl: | Don't think it will work though |
| [04:49:42] | mchou: | miwl: what's street price of 31" these days? |
| [04:50:41] | xris: | mchou: around $99 |
| [04:51:03] | miwl: | sounds about right, I would have to look |
| [04:51:03] | xris: | sorry, $120 + shipping from cyberestore |
| [04:51:25] | xris: | $65 for an offset one. guess it just depends on what you want |
| [04:51:41] | xris: | ahh, the $120 one is elliptical |
| [04:52:42] | mchou: | my neighbor has FTA. I should ask him |
| [04:53:19] | mchou: | huge dish in front of his house though |
| [04:53:33] | xris: | mine do, too.. big ugly dish stuck to the back wall of their house. |
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| [04:53:40] | xris: | they don't speak english, though, which doesn't help me. |
| [04:54:03] | marmoset: | xris: that means you have to have a bigger uglier dish |
| [04:54:16] | xris: | marmoset: I have a wife who doesn't like the 18" one. |
| [04:54:25] | marmoset: | hehe |
| [04:54:32] | xris: | I have just enough room on my house to mostly hide the 18" one. can't go bigger |
| [04:54:39] | marmoset: | yeah, I've been pretty much forbidden to go to dish |
| [04:55:31] | xris: | miwl: I know people who have this set up. |
| [04:55:41] | xris: | oops, replying to old comment in scrollback |
| [04:56:21] | miwl: | xris: just wanted to point out that you wouldn't get much, but you seem to know that. |
| [04:56:25] | miwl: | http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=34131 |
| [04:56:38] | miwl: | not an impressive list |
| [04:56:38] | xris: | miwl: yeah, this is more just to play around with than anything else. |
| [04:56:49] | xris: | I already have the dvb card (got it back when I was still connected to dish) |
| [04:57:18] | miwl: | that's why I was looking into a FTA setup |
| [04:57:25] | semee: | ok so I finally got the firmware to load for my pcHDTV-3000 card |
| [04:57:26] | semee: | :) |
| [04:57:37] | semee: | but still I can't get any video |
| [04:58:46] | xris: | miwl: if this works, I might look into getting a better setup |
| [04:58:58] | mchou: | miwl: that dude iceberg is one fugly mofo :) |
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| [04:59:36] | miwl: | hehe, indeed |
| [05:00:26] | mchou: | "never mind the dog, beware of owner" |
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| [05:04:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hi guys – recovering my system after a system HDD crash. My LVM 'data' volumes seemed fine, but after re-booting, now several directories show the owner/group as "? ?" — any way to fix? even root says "Permission denied" when I try to do a chown... |
| [05:05:03] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: ouch! |
| [05:05:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | [sorry,kinda OT, but it is a Myth backend...] |
| [05:05:15] | kormoc: | have you tried fscking it? |
| [05:05:31] | marmoset: | J-e-f-f-A: my guess is that you've lost more data than you're thinking, in the form of data corruption |
| [05:05:32] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: what filesystem is this? |
| [05:05:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | yeah, it's JFS... did it with the right fsck, and it said no issues... |
| [05:05:49] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [05:05:51] | kormoc: | ickyness |
| [05:05:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | I should probably try it again, eh? |
| [05:05:57] | marmoset: | J-e-f-f-A: hold on a sec |
| [05:05:57] | kormoc: | yeah.. |
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| [05:06:06] | marmoset: | oh jfs |
| [05:06:08] | marmoset: | I dunno about jfs |
| [05:06:09] | marmoset: | n/m |
| [05:06:15] | marmoset: | I was going to suggest chattr |
| [05:06:20] | marmoset: | I dunno what that does with jfs tho |
| [05:06:47] | marmoset: | if jfs has the idea of immutable files and all that, that's probably what's up |
| [05:07:10] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, try the -f flag, but keep in mind, it could wipe all your data rather then fixing it... |
| [05:07:14] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ick... Just tried a jfs_fsck again, and it reported : |
| [05:07:19] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: you sure the user/group still exists? :) |
| [05:07:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | Superblock is corrupt and cannot be repaired |
| [05:07:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | since both primary and secondary copies are corrupt. |
| [05:07:32] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: well well |
| [05:07:43] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: there's your answer |
| [05:07:57] | kormoc: | Yeah... that would make sense |
| [05:08:03] | semee: | ok so I believe my dvb card is set up correctly... can anyone help me figure out how to test |
| [05:08:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: it was owned by mythtv... but that was before I re-built the system on a new hdd. The directories were there when i first recovered the system... ARRGGHHH |
| [05:08:14] | neftune: | J-e-f-f-A: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/reiserfs.html |
| [05:08:40] | marmoset: | I always end up coming back to ext2/3, even tho performance is crap |
| [05:09:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | marmoset: How's it perform with a 760GB LVM? |
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| [05:09:27] | mchou: | marmoset: huh?? xfs has be super solid for me |
| [05:09:37] | mchou: | s/be/been |
| [05:09:42] | marmoset: | J-e-f-f-A: I've got one 600GB LVM, a 2TB 3ware one, and some random ones, and it's not great with large files, but fewer problems than others |
| [05:09:58] | marmoset: | mchou: yeah, when it works it works fine, I've just had better luck with recovery under ext2/3 |
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| [05:10:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | marmoset: What would you say is a 'large file' — most of my SD recordings are 1.6GB, HD ar 3+GB... |
| [05:10:30] | dev: | hehe... all filesystems work great when they work fine |
| [05:10:32] | kormoc: | those are large files imho |
| [05:10:36] | dev: | its when they crash you find out who the real winners are |
| [05:10:37] | marmoset: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah, those are large files. the problem is really with deleting more than anything else |
| [05:10:45] | kormoc: | the only main issue with ext3 is yeah, delete time |
| [05:10:56] | kormoc: | it takes about 2 to 5 seconds to delete files |
| [05:11:06] | semee: | should I go through my cable box or plug the cable directly into my pcHDTV-3000 card? |
| [05:11:07] | marmoset: | dev: yeah, I liked the speed from xfs, especially with large files, but it just took one blow up for me to stop using it |
| [05:11:10] | kormoc: | and mine are around 800 megs or so |
| [05:12:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | neftune: That looks like it's for ResiserFS — Are you suggesting it would work for a JFS-formatted disk? |
| [05:12:29] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, it's all about why filesystems and pc hardware suck |
| [05:12:34] | kormoc: | it's not really a recovery idea |
| [05:12:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Well, I could live with 2–5 seconds delete time... |
| [05:13:00] | semee: | when I do a cable scan all I get is "Timeout Scanning ATSC Channel .. — No Signal |
| [05:13:02] | semee: | any help |
| [05:13:27] | kormoc: | marmoset, so did they fix the large ext3 over lvm issue? |
| [05:13:45] | neftune: | J-e-f-f-A: read the note at the top |
| [05:13:56] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, I would recommend going to ext3 then, as it's not *that* slow and nice and robust. |
| [05:13:57] | marmoset: | kormoc: I haven't had any issues with it, but I don't really push it hard. I have files up to ~6GB on mine and have no real issues |
| [05:14:22] | marmoset: | kormoc: hardware and computers do suck, I think all you have to do is work with enough of it to realize that ;) |
| [05:14:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Trust me, I know reliable non-pc hardware. I work with Tandem computer systems — Fault-tolerant 'mainframe-class' machines... Intel's latest ad says "We made the World's most reliable server even more reliable"... ;-) 99.999% uptime... |
| [05:14:53] | kormoc: | marmoset, for a little while, there was major corruption issues on lvm arrays larger then 350 gb or so, I heard they fixed it as of 2.6.18, but I wasn't sure. |
| [05:14:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: (They just transitioned from a MIPS processor to Intel Itanium) |
| [05:15:01] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, heh, nifty |
| [05:15:49] | marmoset: | kormoc: ah, haven't seen that, I only use lvm on myth cuz I still don't really trust it so it doesn't go into important things :) |
| [05:16:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | Arrgh... Well, it looks like I may be re-formatting my video disk too... So what's the consensus for file system — do you guys think I should just use ext3, or stay with jfs? |
| [05:16:24] | kormoc: | I'd vote for ext3 |
| [05:16:29] | neftune: | if you value your data, ext3 |
| [05:16:39] | marmoset: | J-e-f-f-A: I always come back to ext3 for things that don't have a live backup |
| [05:16:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | Humm... it's unanimous so far... |
| [05:17:05] | marmoset: | I use xfs at work for a few things because of speed, but there's a live backup with ufs on freebsd, so I'm not too concerned |
| [05:17:37] | mchou: | hell, get a ups and stick with xfs |
| [05:17:52] | mchou: | end of problem :) |
| [05:17:55] | marmoset: | heh |
| [05:17:56] | marmoset: | if only ;) |
| [05:18:15] | marmoset: | I was getting xfs panics a while ago, had to reseed all 4TB |
| [05:18:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ok, it will be ext3. And if it's only 2–5 seconds per 'big file', then I'll live with that. (yeah, i've got a UPS, but it was my OS HDD that crashed... a ups doesn't help that!) |
| [05:18:39] | kormoc: | no, but raid does ;) |
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| [05:19:39] | mchou: | raid doesnt do shit when fs is hosed |
| [05:19:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Yeah, I should at least setup a mirror on my os disk, eh? Or could I just get away with a nightly backup to a network storage disk? (on an NSLU2) |
| [05:19:56] | kormoc: | that would likely work well |
| [05:20:01] | neftune: | mchou: is there still "the XFS issue of zeroing all open files on an unclean shutdown"? |
| [05:20:10] | kormoc: | I would use rsnapshot to network backup |
| [05:20:35] | mchou: | neftune: on the myth video part why would you care? |
| [05:20:50] | mchou: | neftune: so you lose a few recordings |
| [05:20:58] | mchou: | neftune: bfd |
| [05:21:09] | dev: | heh |
| [05:21:17] | dev: | you sure make alot of friends here |
| [05:22:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | I don't care so much about the videos, but it's a pain to have lost 600GB... It initially survived, but something happened to corrupt it when I was re-building the system. Initially all the directories on my LVM disk were there and OK, but 3/4 of them are owned by "?" now... ick... |
| [05:22:22] | mchou: | dev: no, if you dont have an answer for that, dont bother. You and your 500 hrs of recordings that you'll never get to watch |
| [05:23:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou, dev: Well, I had 600+ hours too, and my family watches too, not just me... |
| [05:23:47] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: 600 GB loss may not have been strictly a xfs "problem" |
| [05:23:54] | mchou: | could have been lvm |
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| [05:24:12] | dev: | jeffa: dont mind mchou, his mom wont let him have any decent sized myth setup as he doesnt pay the electric bill for his bedroom |
| [05:24:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: jfs actually... I think if I remember right, my system just locked up once during my recovery efforts, and I had to power off to recover... That's probably when it happened... :-( |
| [05:25:13] | miwl: | mchou: you gonna take that? :) |
| [05:25:25] | mchou: | dev: speak for yourself, you've obviously got no life to recommend ppl watch 500 hrs worth of TV |
| [05:25:30] | dev: | he's thinking up a clever response im sure |
| [05:25:49] | dev: | i recommend people watch 500hrs worth of tv? wow, how silly of me |
| [05:25:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | dev: It's just HDD envy... ;-) |
| [05:26:02] | mchou: | dev: if you work 40hrs/wk that's 2000 hrs/yr :) |
| [05:26:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou, dev: If he only works 40hrs/wk, then he's in the minority... My company expects 50+/wk |
| [05:26:52] | marmoset: | 50 hours a week would be nice |
| [05:26:53] | marmoset: | ;) |
| [05:27:02] | marmoset: | I'd love to cut back to that, I'd have so much free time ;) |
| [05:27:19] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: my point exactly. Dev is LIVING with his mom if he has time to watch 500 hrs of TV :) |
| [05:27:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | marmoset: Maybe if you're hourly! If your Salaried, then it's a pain... |
| [05:27:44] | dev: | actually my job allows me to work from home several days a week, so on my tri-monitor setup i watch tv on one head while working on the other 2 |
| [05:27:51] | dev: | perks of being a valuable employee :) |
| [05:27:53] | marmoset: | J-e-f-f-A: that's what I mean, I'm salaried so I'd love to cut back to 50 hours ;) |
| [05:28:27] | xris: | marmoset: simech is great. 40 hours/week. no more, no less |
| [05:28:32] | dev: | though i still dont watch 500hrs of tv, as stated before thats just the room to record |
| [05:28:35] | dev: | =) |
| [05:28:42] | xris: | granted, I probably work a little more than that just because I like my job. |
| [05:28:42] | marmoset: | xris: nice, haven't done that in like 7–8 years |
| [05:28:46] | xris: | I know that kormoc does |
| [05:29:09] | marmoset: | xris: I'm well compensated for my time tho, so it's OK for now. I'll eventually want to settle down ;) |
| [05:29:10] | dev: | you guys work together dont ya |
| [05:29:19] | kormoc: | heh, well, I'm proud of the company and I'm glad to be a part of it |
| [05:29:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: any openings? ;-) |
| [05:29:22] | dev: | xris and kormoc i mean |
| [05:29:33] | marmoset: | dev: yeah, they do, I buy a fair amount from them too ;) |
| [05:29:45] | dev: | hehe nice |
| [05:29:54] | dev: | ive gotten work from irc friends too |
| [05:30:06] | dev: | nice side money, pays for the 500hrs of recordings and such ;) |
| [05:30:10] | marmoset: | it's pretty funny, I only found out about them from this channel, we went through a lot of crappy vendors before them |
| [05:30:15] | mchou: | dev: lol |
| [05:30:25] | marmoset: | otherwise I'd probably still be buying from dell |
| [05:30:42] | marmoset: | dell sucks a lot, but their suckage is consistent. |
| [05:30:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | marmoset: Hey- watch your language on here! Don't mention the "D" word! |
| [05:30:51] | marmoset: | ;) |
| [05:31:06] | marmoset: | the one thing dell has going for them is the remote management |
| [05:31:24] | marmoset: | but the only reason we need the remote management is becuase they lock up so much, so.. |
| [05:32:30] | Dagmar: | I'll stick with Sun boxes and a portmaster for remote management |
| [05:32:45] | Dagmar: | There's nothing quite so useful as being able to interrupt straight into BIOS |
| [05:32:46] | marmoset: | Dagmar: yeah, the remote power cycles are nice though. |
| [05:33:42] | Dagmar: | marmoset: On sun boxes you can (and I did, frequently) kick the serial port, tell it to boot off the network, and install a whole different configuratio over TFTP/BOOTP |
| [05:33:45] | xris: | J-e-f-f-A: will be hiring a new purchasing person soon |
| [05:34:03] | Dagmar: | I don't think Dell's quite gotten the remote installs working to that degree yet |
| [05:34:13] | Dagmar: | Hopfully someone x86 will soon tho |
| [05:34:24] | marmoset: | Dagmar: it essentially is, and yah, pc hardware is still trying to catch up to that level of stuff |
| [05:34:29] | Dagmar: | It saves a lot of bloody trips to remote facilities |
| [05:34:46] | marmoset: | but it's there now, just maybe not as clean |
| [05:35:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: You guys are in Washington, right? That would be a bit of a commute from the Boston area! ;-) |
| [05:35:25] | Dagmar: | marmoset: The Dell stuff works when the hard drive is blank? That would definitely be an improvement |
| [05:35:51] | xris: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah, just a bit |
| [05:36:20] | Dagmar: | marmoset: Our remote installs at iawk were just a matter of having one of the local people plug the box into the portmonster and the network, and plugging in power. Everything from that point was handled through Jumpstart |
| [05:36:37] | marmoset: | Dagmar: eyeah, HD can be blank |
| [05:36:40] | mchou: | speaking of dell,anybody seen an opteron box yet from dell? |
| [05:36:42] | marmoset: | it's complete console takeover |
| [05:36:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: I'm liking AJAX... Just getting started in it, but it's pretty cool. I can't wait to see the new mw... |
| [05:36:54] | Dagmar: | We populated 28 machines in Taipei in just under 45 minutes. I was so happy I wasn't oging ot have to fly out there |
| [05:37:24] | marmoset: | Dagmar: there's bugs in it (last time I tried the freebsd install floppy didn't work in the virtual floppy drive) but if you do netboot it's no problem |
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| [05:37:40] | Dagmar: | I <3 netbooting |
| [05:37:46] | marmoset: | yeah, it's pretty cool |
| [05:37:53] | marmoset: | although I hate how crufty it all is ;) |
| [05:37:57] | marmoset: | it does work though |
| [05:38:21] | marmoset: | whatever config file that is that looks like a printcap |
| [05:38:27] | marmoset: | been a while ;) |
| [05:38:29] | Dagmar: | I wouldn't call it crufty. It just seems that x86 manufacturers have more or less forgotten BOOTP and TFTP exist |
| [05:38:56] | mchou: | Dagmar: huh?? |
| [05:39:25] | mchou: | Dagmar: I though pretty much all bios now support pxe boot? |
| [05:39:39] | mchou: | thought* |
| [05:40:15] | achew22: | I just emerged mythtv, and when I run mythfrontend it says "Segmentation fault" how do I find out more info about whats wrong |
| [05:40:33] | xris: | achew22: -v all |
| [05:40:49] | achew22: | mythfrontend -v all |
| [05:41:03] | achew22: | it says "Segmentation fault" to that too |
| [05:41:12] | mchou: | heh |
| [05:41:13] | Dagmar: | achew22: This compiled on your machine? |
| [05:41:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ok, if I don't go to bed now I'll never get up for work in the morning... ttyl.... ;-) |
| [05:41:36] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [05:41:40] | achew22: | Dagmar: yeah |
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| [05:41:46] | kormoc: | achew22, emerge gentool-kit |
| [05:41:49] | kormoc: | achew22, revdep-rebuild |
| [05:42:11] | Dagmar: | achew22: I'm stunned. Normally you don't get that behaviour unless something is very very wrong. Kormoc sounds like he's got an idea tho |
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| [05:42:45] | achew22: | kormoc now what? |
| [05:42:54] | kormoc: | achew22, does it find anything to rebuild? |
| [05:44:18] | achew22: | um.... -bash: gentoolkit: command not found |
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| [05:45:04] | kormoc: | did you read what I said? |
| [05:45:20] | Dagmar: | Looks like you left out a dash, maybe |
| [05:45:32] | kormoc: | he forgot to type emerge in front of it as well |
| [05:45:47] | achew22: | eah |
| [05:45:49] | achew22: | I emerged it |
| [05:45:50] | achew22: | it didn't exist |
| [05:45:55] | achew22: | so I searched for gentool |
| [05:45:59] | achew22: | then that showed up without the - |
| [05:46:02] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [05:46:03] | achew22: | then I emerged it |
| [05:46:05] | kormoc: | well, emerge that one |
| [05:46:07] | achew22: | then I ran it and it didn't exit |
| [05:46:15] | kormoc: | I said to run revdep-rebuild |
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| [05:46:44] | achew22: | sorry — my browser is broken. I'm getting intermitant messages |
| [05:46:52] | jake[laptop]: | hmm. seems i have a choice – smooth video playback using xvmc or dropped frames using any other software mpeg2 decoder |
| [05:47:14] | jake[laptop]: | (audio playback is choppy on xvmc) |
| [05:47:15] | Dagmar: | jake[laptop]: more CPU power needed |
| [05:47:19] | achew22: | s/browser/irc client/ |
| [05:47:28] | kormoc: | jake[laptop], did you try enabling the extra audio buffering? |
| [05:47:50] | jake[laptop]: | kormoc: yep |
| [05:48:04] | kormoc: | aggressive audio buffering? |
| [05:48:11] | jake[laptop]: | it's an AMD 64 2200 |
| [05:48:31] | jake[laptop]: | hmm aggressive – don't see that |
| [05:49:00] | jake[laptop]: | aggressive != extra? |
| [05:49:07] | kormoc: | it likely won't work, but is worth a try |
| [05:49:09] | kormoc: | aye |
| [05:49:14] | kormoc: | two different options |
| [05:49:21] | kormoc: | and in two entirely different areas |
| [05:49:40] | achew22: | kormoc: when thats complete should I reemerge mythtv? |
| [05:49:50] | kormoc: | achew22, is it finding things? |
| [05:49:53] | jake[laptop]: | Dagmar: only says it's using 30% (in top) |
| [05:50:05] | achew22: | its doing something |
| [05:50:13] | kormoc: | jake[laptop], are you running a sound server of some sort? esd/artsd? |
| [05:50:37] | kormoc: | achew22, is it compiling? |
| [05:50:44] | biffhero: | I have a front end with a DVD drive, and when I try to 'rip DVD', I get "no jobs. Checking and/or waiting for DVD." Am i supposed to import DVDs on the backend, or on the frontend? |
| [05:50:47] | jake[laptop]: | kormoc: it's a standard knoppmyth install – lemme see |
| [05:52:18] | jake[laptop]: | kormoc: doesn't look like either of those are running |
| [05:52:23] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [05:52:39] | kormoc: | Well, I'm out of ideas if the other sound option doesn't help |
| [05:53:22] | Cardoe: | damnit |
| [05:53:22] | jake[laptop]: | i'm running deinterlaced – thinking that will use less cpu power |
| [05:53:27] | Cardoe: | this is why I wish my Myth box was back up |
| [05:53:38] | Cardoe: | The only channel working was USA with some HORRIBLE Steven Segal movie |
| [05:53:47] | Cardoe: | I know the horrible part is redundant since they're all horrible |
| [05:53:48] | kormoc: | jake[laptop], actually, deinterlacing uses up more cpu |
| [05:53:52] | Cardoe: | but just now that channel went out |
| [05:53:55] | kormoc: | heh |
| [05:54:09] | jake[laptop]: | ok – i'll switch bacl |
| [05:54:13] | jake[laptop]: | back |
| [05:54:53] | jake[laptop]: | am i right in thinking that dropped frames usually points to not enough cpu power to keep up |
| [05:54:54] | jake[laptop]: | ? |
| [05:55:05] | kormoc: | usually, aye |
| [05:55:11] | kormoc: | could be speed of the drive |
| [05:55:21] | jake[laptop]: | 7200 |
| [05:55:26] | kormoc: | hdparm -t /dev/hdx or /dev/sdx |
| [05:56:00] | Cardoe: | yay for 44mph wind gusts |
| [05:56:05] | Cardoe: | faster faster! |
| [05:56:13] | ** Cardoe hops work is closed. ** | |
| [05:56:15] | Cardoe: | hopes |
| [05:56:25] | kormoc: | heh |
| [05:56:26] | jake[laptop]: | better hope work is still there |
| [05:56:34] | Cardoe: | jake[laptop]: eh |
| [05:56:38] | Cardoe: | not that much of a problem |
| [05:56:41] | Cardoe: | and if it's gone |
| [05:56:44] | kormoc: | just toss a tree infront of the building |
| [05:56:48] | Cardoe: | I'm sure I'll make plenty of money rebuilding |
| [05:56:56] | Cardoe: | kormoc: aren't you in Seattle? |
| [05:57:05] | kormoc: | aye |
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| [05:57:37] | ** Cardoe points at the hurricane by him... not Seattle. ** | |
| [05:57:46] | Cardoe: | Someone sneeze to hard? |
| [05:57:59] | kormoc: | heh |
| [05:57:59] | biffhero: | has anyone successfully ripped DVDs with myth front ends? |
| [05:58:01] | Cardoe: | don't try to steal my hurricane... |
| [05:58:08] | Cardoe: | I want it to blow work away. |
| [05:58:11] | kormoc: | I just want a nice thunderstorm out here |
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| [06:06:08] | jake[laptop]: | kormoc: got your last msg about hdd speed – ii lost my ssh connection and trying to get it working again |
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| [06:10:31] | libolt: | I'm having trouble with my mythweb setup connecting to my mysql server which is running on a separate host from the backend. Everything else with mythtv seems to workf ine. I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/65047 |
| [06:11:14] | jake[laptop]: | i get between 56–60 MB/sec |
| [06:11:33] | kormoc: | welp, that's plenty |
| [06:12:04] | achew22: | kormoc: that finished, what should I do now? |
| [06:12:21] | kormoc: | achew22, re-emerge myth and see if it works now |
| [06:12:46] | dtm: | hi guys. do you know offhand whether mythbackend works on macos with arbitrary usb devices such as WinTV PVR USB2? i have it working with Hauppauge's proprietary app but i dont think it subscribes to quicktime or whatever. i see nothing on google. |
| [06:17:07] | libolt: | how do you tell Mythweb to look at a remote mysql server? |
| [06:17:21] | achew22: | libolt: go to the .htaccess file |
| [06:17:23] | kormoc: | libolt, by configuring it correctly as per the README |
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| [06:17:55] | libolt: | ah kay got it now thanks |
| [06:17:56] | jake[laptop]: | now i get a few frames fast and a few frames slow – alternating |
| [06:21:20] | kormoc: | jake[laptop], and low cpu usage in top? |
| [06:22:05] | jake[laptop]: | i'll check again |
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| [06:24:02] | jake[laptop]: | kormoc: still around 30% – is that high? |
| [06:24:09] | kormoc: | not really |
| [06:24:28] | kormoc: | jake[laptop], 70% idle then? |
| [06:24:34] | kormoc: | or is there a chunk in io? |
| [06:24:36] | jake[laptop]: | 63% |
| [06:24:47] | kormoc: | hrm |
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| [06:25:10] | kormoc: | well, given it's not in IO, it's not disk/filesystem issues (likely not at least) |
| [06:25:16] | kormoc: | what's your videocard? |
| [06:25:23] | jake[laptop]: | 5200 |
| [06:25:29] | kormoc: | nvidia driver? |
| [06:25:39] | jake[laptop]: | oh – gotta find the build |
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| [06:27:51] | jake[laptop]: | hmm. i must've used it on a previous install |
| [06:28:03] | jake[laptop]: | it's not showing on here |
| [06:28:30] | kormoc: | welp, might as well install it and see if it helps |
| [06:28:49] | jake[laptop]: | yeah – gotta check the notes – i think i can only use up to a certain build |
| [06:29:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [06:29:07] | jake[laptop]: | read that somewhere |
| [06:29:13] | jake[laptop]: | that's not correct? |
| [06:29:17] | kormoc: | shouldn't be |
| [06:29:29] | kormoc: | the 5200 is fully supported in the newest drivers |
| [06:30:29] | jake[laptop]: | i'm still using 1.8 – does it matter for this? |
| [06:30:42] | kormoc: | shouldn't, assuming you ment myth 0.18 |
| [06:30:51] | jake[laptop]: | yes – typo |
| [06:30:55] | j3g: | anyone know a way to stream tv from IVTV (non-mythtv) |
| [06:31:39] | xris: | j3g: vlc can't read the video device? |
| [06:31:40] | kormoc: | j3g, uhh, gonna need to be more descriptive then that |
| [06:31:44] | j3g: | xris: seems not |
| [06:31:50] | kormoc: | well |
| [06:31:54] | kormoc: | make a fifo pipe |
| [06:32:00] | j3g: | kormoc: i want to watch tv at work, from home... i have unrestricted internet there |
| [06:32:02] | kormoc: | cat /dev/video > fifo |
| [06:32:05] | j3g: | so it shouldn't be a problem |
| [06:32:06] | kormoc: | vlc fifo |
| [06:32:16] | j3g: | but how to stream it? |
| [06:32:26] | j3g: | and whouldn't fifo get HUGE? |
| [06:32:27] | kormoc: | vlc includes streaming ability |
| [06:32:36] | kormoc: | only if you don't start playing it right away |
| [06:32:58] | kormoc: | fifo is a special file that is first in first out, so once it's read, the data is removed |
| [06:33:20] | j3g: | didn't know fifo was a reserved filename |
| [06:33:26] | kormoc: | no |
| [06:33:32] | kormoc: | you can't just name it fifo |
| [06:33:42] | kormoc: | use the mkfifo command |
| [06:34:11] | j3g: | let me try |
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| [06:37:34] | j3g: | mplayer can't play the http stream |
| [06:37:40] | j3g: | i'll install vlc on the linux machine |
| [06:37:41] | j3g: | and try it |
| [06:39:40] | Dagmar: | We need a distro that doesn't allow the user to have the root password until they pass a competency exam |
| [06:40:26] | j3g: | kormoc: says it cannot pre-fill buffer |
| [06:40:33] | kormoc: | strange |
| [06:40:41] | Hoxzer: | Dagmar: :D |
| [06:40:50] | Hoxzer: | I remeber when I installed my first distro |
| [06:40:56] | kormoc: | j3g, can you play the fifo locally? |
| [06:41:00] | Hoxzer: | I had to do reinstall like in one month |
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| [06:41:04] | Hoxzer: | 3 times I did it |
| [06:41:15] | j3g: | kormoc: it says that when I try locally |
| [06:41:17] | Hoxzer: | because I tried everything with rot |
| [06:41:29] | j3g: | (says when I first try to open the fifo on the vlc "server") |
| [06:41:36] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [06:41:38] | kormoc: | strange... |
| [06:42:40] | Dagmar: | I just feel like users should be required to know 100-level unix stuff before they're allowed to do anything more complex than look at porno |
| [06:42:46] | kormoc: | heh |
| [06:43:00] | j3g: | kormoc: i have done the cat /dev/video0 to the fifo |
| [06:43:03] | j3g: | but it stays at 0kb |
| [06:43:16] | Dagmar: | A fifo does not change in size |
| [06:43:18] | kormoc: | well, it doesn't write it to the drive |
| [06:43:20] | Dagmar: | Think of it as a U-shaped pipe |
| [06:43:21] | kormoc: | so that's normal |
| [06:43:36] | Dagmar: | You throw data into it, and it bounces back out to whatever is trying to read from it at the same time |
| [06:43:39] | kormoc: | if you watch your memory, it should get used |
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| [06:45:11] | thechris: | i am having issues with ivtv0.6.2 how do i change channels? |
| [06:45:28] | kormoc: | downgrade to the version that used to work for you |
| [06:45:48] | Dagmar: | I don't think it's going to be using *much* memory. AFAIK the fifo size for 2.6.x kernels is set to 4K |
| [06:46:11] | thechris: | also, mythtv doesn't let me switch between my two tuners on my pvr500 |
| [06:46:21] | thechris: | unless they changed the keys around |
| [06:46:24] | kormoc: | Dagmar, ooh? I thought it would cache upto something like 40 megs or so |
| [06:46:36] | Dagmar: | It might. I've not tested it. |
| [06:46:58] | Dagmar: | I use them in my coding rather frequently, but I also do a lot of blockage checking |
| [06:47:11] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [06:47:19] | kormoc: | you likely know about it much more then I do |
| [06:48:52] | Cardoe: | thechris: stop using 0.6.2 it's masked for a reason |
| [06:49:30] | Cardoe: | thechris: the tuners got renumbered in 0.6.2... you need to resetup the devices in MythTV |
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| [06:49:44] | thechris: | the reason they listed was "didn't work for me" |
| [06:49:59] | Cardoe: | they is me |
| [06:50:03] | Cardoe: | not more then one person |
| [06:50:05] | kormoc: | and amazing, they don't work for you as well |
| [06:50:09] | thechris: | what issue did you have? |
| [06:50:37] | Cardoe: | anything and everything |
| [06:50:45] | thechris: | i assumed it was masked because it literally doesn't work without a patch from the mailing list |
| [06:51:03] | Cardoe: | well if it requires a patch from the mailing list.. |
| [06:51:08] | Cardoe: | then it shouldn't work for you either... |
| [06:51:47] | Dagmar: | kormoc: Well, the bugger of it is that it might not actually be limited by anything more than free/slack disk space under Linux. I've seen it at 8M and 16Mb (as best I could measure it) on some other Unix variants and I've never seen any defined thing saying how large or small the fifo buffer "must" be |
| [06:51:50] | thechris: | in anycase i want to see if i get sound on channel 73 in the new version |
| [06:52:05] | Cardoe: | thechris: you might.. but you'll lose other stuff |
| [06:52:16] | kormoc: | Dagmar, ahh, fair nuff |
| [06:52:32] | Dagmar: | There's an atom size you can't safely exceed with fifos if you don't want your stuff to misbehave tho... that one is usually really easy to find out |
| [06:52:50] | thechris: | Cardoe: this is a new install. also i had compile errors on 0.4.5... |
| [06:53:04] | Cardoe: | 0.4.5 is for 2.6.15 |
| [06:53:18] | Cardoe: | it says that when it errors out |
| [06:53:23] | Cardoe: | read the error msg |
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| [07:00:53] | Cardoe: | kormoc: I updated the mask message |
| [07:02:55] | kormoc: | heh, nice |
| [07:04:03] | kormoc: | welp, I'm off to bed, night |
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| [07:05:39] | achew22: | are there any gentoo people here? |
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| [07:10:33] | jusk1: | morning |
| [07:11:11] | ** jusk1 uses (and abuses) Gentoo ** | |
| [07:12:34] | jusk1 is now known as Juski | |
| [07:13:41] | Juski: | achew22: why don't you just ask the question about the issue you're having? |
| [07:15:20] | Cardoe: | achew22: ask |
| [07:15:26] | Cardoe: | you have me here.. |
| [07:15:35] | Cardoe: | and Juski |
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| [07:20:23] | jake[laptop]: | i can see fram drops, but is there a way to get logs of how bad it is? |
| [07:20:26] | jake[laptop]: | frame |
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| [07:27:31] | achew22: | sorry — I was watching Futurama. Juski, Cardoe: I emerged mythtv and when I try to run mythfrontend I get a segfault |
| [07:30:52] | neftune: | achew22: what CFLAGS? |
| [07:31:09] | achew22: | do you want all my use flags? |
| [07:31:17] | neftune: | i said CFLAGS |
| [07:32:53] | achew22: | "X alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cdr cli crypt ctype cups dba eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat fam fastbuild foomaticdb force-cgi-redirect fortran ftp gd gdbm gif glut gmp gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile idn imlib ipv6 jpeg kde kernel_linux lcms libg++ libwww mad memlimit mikmod mng motif mozilla mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png posix |
| [07:33:16] | neftune: | i said CFLAGS |
| [07:34:39] | achew22: | neftune how do I get them? |
| [07:35:05] | neftune: | grep CFLAGS /etc/make.conf |
| [07:35:21] | achew22: | #CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe" |
| [07:35:21] | achew22: | CFLAGS="-march=i686 -O2 -pipe" |
| [07:35:21] | achew22: | CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" |
| [07:35:27] | achew22: | oops. Sorry about that |
| [07:36:32] | Cardoe: | compiler? |
| [07:36:36] | achew22: | gcc |
| [07:36:52] | achew22: | <-- newb |
| [07:37:04] | Cardoe: | gcc -dumpversion |
| [07:37:07] | Cardoe: | or read it from emerge info |
| [07:37:23] | achew22: | gcc 3.4.4 |
| [07:37:54] | Cardoe: | emerge gdb |
| [07:38:02] | Cardoe: | then run gdb mythfrontend |
| [07:38:07] | Cardoe: | and when it crashes type "bt" |
| [07:38:10] | Cardoe: | and gimme a backtrace |
| [07:40:21] | achew22: | Cardoe: what is gdb? |
| [07:40:46] | Cardoe: | GNU Debugger |
| [07:40:51] | achew22: | nifty |
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| [07:45:02] | Hoxzer: | :/ maybe I should do that too |
| [07:45:12] | jake[laptop]: | oh cool – i found how i can ssh in to see debug while video is playing |
| [07:45:37] | achew22: | um.... Cardoe: how do I do this? |
| [07:46:59] | mchou: | achew22: do what? |
| [07:47:04] | achew22: | gdb |
| [07:47:25] | achew22: | when I did gdb mythfrontend it brought me to the program but didn't do anything. when I did by it said No stack. |
| [07:48:06] | mchou: | achew22: you need to recompile myth with debug |
| [07:48:20] | achew22: | so use="debug" emerge mythtv? |
| [07:48:40] | neftune: | achew22: type run at the gdb prompt |
| [07:48:57] | mchou: | i dont use gentoo, dunno how it's done there |
| [07:49:25] | achew22: | good call neftune... saved the day again |
| [07:49:39] | achew22: | http://pastebin.com/706057 |
| [07:50:04] | achew22: | does pepsi own tostitos? |
| [07:50:08] | Hoxzer: | Hmmm :D |
| [07:50:20] | Hoxzer: | Mythbackend happend to be crashing like once a week |
| [07:50:23] | mchou: | wouldnt surprise me |
| [07:50:31] | Hoxzer: | so I setup monit to restart it always when it does crash |
| [07:50:44] | Hoxzer: | :-) and didn't use gdm |
| [07:50:54] | Hoxzer: | dgb I meant |
| [07:50:59] | mchou: | wow, myth supports qt4?? |
| [07:51:02] | Hoxzer: | gdb |
| [07:51:30] | mchou: | achew22: wow, myth supports qt4?? :) |
| [07:51:46] | achew22: | I was under the impression it does... |
| [07:51:58] | Juski: | well, it doesn't |
| [07:52:07] | mchou: | achew22: that's news to me :) |
| [07:52:44] | Juski: | achew22: are you like, from the future ? ;-) |
| [07:52:51] | achew22: | Juski: not yet.... |
| [07:52:55] | mchou: | Juski: lol |
| [07:53:33] | achew22: | is there a ebuild for qt3? |
| [07:53:41] | mchou: | achew22: if you're a linux noob why are you using gentoo? |
| [07:53:53] | jake[laptop]: | is this bad: (/proc/interrupts)? 17: 6033284 IO-APIC-level libata, Technisat/B2C2 FlexCop II/IIb/III Digital TV PCI Driver |
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| [07:54:17] | jake[laptop]: | looks like my hdd ctrlr is sharing w the tuner |
| [07:55:05] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: that's what modern machines do :) |
| [07:55:32] | achew22: | mchou: because I can and I like a challenge. Also — its a good learning experience |
| [07:55:35] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: not a problem unless the drivers cant handle interrupt sharing :) |
| [07:55:53] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: grabbing at straws here :) |
| [07:55:54] | mchou: | achew22: good luck then |
| [07:55:59] | achew22: | mchou: also — to not be a newb you basicly have to have the name linus |
| [07:56:18] | jake[laptop]: | i keep getting this: NVP: Video is 3.03165 frames ahead of audio, dropping frame. |
| [07:56:26] | mchou: | achew22: yeah, whatever |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | achew22: like the guy in peanuts cartoon is a linux expert |
| [07:57:09] | Cardoe: | achew22: uh. that's not from MythFrontend |
| [07:57:34] | Hoxzer: | Btw is there any webpage that tells me when was svn 0.19-fixes last updated? |
| [07:57:42] | jake[laptop]: | Cardoe: was that for me? |
| [07:58:16] | Cardoe: | jake[laptop]: no. that was for achew22, which is why I said his name |
| [07:58:22] | Cardoe: | achew22: that's from QT4 which MythTV doesn't use. |
| [07:58:26] | jake[laptop]: | just checking |
| [07:58:28] | achew22: | whats not from mythfrontend? |
| [07:58:57] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: if video is ahead of audio irq sharing betw ata and b2c2 aint the issue :) |
| [07:59:50] | achew22: | Cardoe: I'm confused... what? |
| [08:00:04] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: understood. have i at least narrowed down where the issue could be? |
| [08:00:20] | Cardoe: | achew22: the backtrace you posted is not from MythTV... because MythTV uses QT3... not QT4 |
| [08:00:31] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: narrowed down? you havent even started |
| [08:00:44] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: doh |
| [08:00:55] | Cardoe: | achew22: if that's from MythTV... then run emerge --sync... then emerge -auDv world... (since it appears you haven't done so for a while) and then run emerge mythtv |
| [08:01:15] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: tnx – i search some more |
| [08:01:32] | achew22: | Cardoe: Thats from mythtv |
| [08:05:29] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: is there a troubleshooting guide somewhere around. i googled this and not much comes up |
| [08:06:13] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: what capture card, sound, and processor are you using? |
| [08:07:28] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: i'm using the airpc 5000, amd 64 2200 – asus onboard sound – i can get the model number |
| [08:08:00] | achew22: | Cardoe: I don't see QT3 on the emerge list |
| [08:08:33] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: amd64 2200? Is that actual or 2200+? |
| [08:08:59] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: i'll get the exact specs |
| [08:11:48] | Cardoe: | achew22: emerge --sync |
| [08:11:58] | Cardoe: | achew22: you're using gcc 3.4.4... the latest stable is 3.4.6 |
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| [08:11:59] | achew22: | Cardoe: x11-libs/qt <br />selected: 3.3.4-r8 4.1.2 is that qt3? |
| [08:12:03] | Cardoe: | So I know you're a bit behind |
| [08:12:29] | Cardoe: | 3.3.4-r8 is qt3 |
| [08:12:36] | Cardoe: | we're on 3.3.6 as well |
| [08:12:52] | Cardoe: | what mythtv version? |
| [08:12:56] | achew22: | .19 |
| [08:12:56] | Cardoe: | emerge -pv mythtv ? |
| [08:13:11] | achew22: | .19_p9163-r1 |
| [08:13:18] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: it's actually an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2Ghz HT |
| [08:13:58] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: and sound? |
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| [08:14:20] | Cardoe: | achew22: emerge --sync and update... then re-emerge mythtv |
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| [08:14:40] | achew22: | I did a --sync something like an hour ago. do you really think things will have changed? |
| [08:14:56] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: onboard Asus K8N. I'm trying to locate the chipset |
| [08:15:14] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: lspci tells all |
| [08:16:13] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) |
| [08:17:30] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: well, this aint definitive, but I suspect your crappy via chipset |
| [08:17:57] | mchou: | and I'm not talking about thesudio chipset |
| [08:18:04] | mchou: | the audio* |
| [08:18:12] | jake[laptop]: | mchou:replace the mobo? |
| [08:18:35] | mchou: | well, not that drastic yet |
| [08:19:22] | mchou: | when you play this stuff in myth, what is peak cpu util? |
| [08:19:27] | Cardoe: | achew22: I know for a fact a lot of things have changed. |
| [08:19:40] | Cardoe: | achew22: I just told you 3 times in a row significant changes |
| [08:19:42] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: HD around 60%, SD around 30% |
| [08:20:05] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: is that peak or "average"? |
| [08:20:46] | Cardoe: | achew22: emerge -auDv world |
| [08:20:54] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: mid 30's and mid 60's peak |
| [08:21:23] | Cardoe: | I thought the K8N was nForce4 |
| [08:21:34] | Cardoe: | wait that's the MSI |
| [08:21:58] | jake[laptop]: | i have an external video card (FX5200) |
| [08:22:12] | jake[laptop]: | or something 5200 – the nvidia card |
| [08:22:14] | mchou: | external video card?? |
| [08:22:21] | mchou: | external to what? |
| [08:22:22] | jake[laptop]: | (not onboard) |
| [08:22:45] | achew22: | Cardoe: emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "=x11-libs/qt-3". but it told me specificly to emerge that |
| [08:23:15] | Dagmar: | Dude, just erase your hard drive and reinstall |
| [08:23:23] | Dagmar: | *Hours* have gone by |
| [08:24:21] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: pastebin your whole lspci output |
| [08:24:27] | jake[laptop]: | ok |
| [08:25:02] | mchou: | Dagmar: tell him not to use gentoo either :) |
| [08:25:10] | jake[laptop]: | http://pastebin.ca/65062 |
| [08:25:29] | achew22: | mchou: was that directed at me? |
| [08:26:12] | mchou: | achew22: who was Dagmar talking to? |
| [08:26:27] | achew22: | I don't know |
| [08:27:12] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: what happens when you use mplayer/xine to play back the videos? |
| [08:27:42] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: you see more or less the same behavior like frame drops? |
| [08:27:59] | jake[laptop]: | i'll try |
| [08:28:04] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: or frame drops only happen in myth? |
| [08:28:33] | achew22: | is there an ebuild for "=x11-libs/qt-3"? |
| [08:28:41] | jake[laptop]: | is the media library using mplayer/xine? |
| [08:28:52] | Dagmar: | More and more I hate Gentoo |
| [08:28:53] | jake[laptop]: | or call from shell? |
| [08:28:54] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: nope |
| [08:29:42] | mchou: | just use the shell, make sure verbose is turned on so we know if frams get dropped |
| [08:29:52] | mchou: | frames* |
| [08:30:00] | jake[laptop]: | ok |
| [08:30:12] | mchou: | Dagmar: you mean clueless gentoo lusers |
| [08:32:19] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: what should i set the verbose level at? |
| [08:32:25] | jake[laptop]: | for xine? |
| [08:34:05] | mchou: | I dunno for xine, try 3 |
| [08:34:38] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: actually – looks good |
| [08:35:12] | jake[laptop]: | lemme try an HD |
| [08:37:33] | achew22: | mchou: if I get "x11-libs/qt-embedded" (which is version 3.3.4) will that do the dependancies for QT3? |
| [08:38:04] | mchou: | achew22: doubtful. But I dont use gentoo |
| [08:38:18] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: it would spit out a whole bunch of frame errors if there were an issue, right? |
| [08:38:34] | mchou: | qt-embedded is for embedded platforms |
| [08:39:21] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: actually dont know what xine does if there are frame errors..... |
| [08:39:40] | mchou: | but it would probably tell ya :) |
| [08:39:52] | achew22: | I'm so confused — why isn't there a build to deal with qt3? |
| [08:39:58] | jake[laptop]: | this is the only error i get in the beginning: 200 frames delivered, 2 frames skipped, 0 frames discarde |
| [08:40:10] | jake[laptop]: | nothing else during playback |
| [08:40:19] | mchou: | audio is in sync? |
| [08:40:48] | jake[laptop]: | trying to find one of the test prgs. the channels are all different |
| [08:41:47] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: it looks great |
| [08:42:09] | kRutOn: | are you guys up too late |
| [08:42:15] | mchou: | achew22: take Dagmar's advice, reinstall and ditch gentoo |
| [08:42:36] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: well, then it probably aint a chipset problem :) |
| [08:42:50] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: replace the mobo? |
| [08:42:56] | achew22: | mchou: what would you sugest I use |
| [08:42:58] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: huh?? |
| [08:43:15] | mchou: | I said it probably wasnt a chipset problem |
| [08:43:21] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: oh isn't |
| [08:43:25] | Juski: | how can you go wrong doing emerge mythtv? I'm doing that on a fresh install now & it's pulling in all the deps okay |
| [08:43:32] | jake[laptop]: | quite a difference |
| [08:43:59] | Juski: | (my rationale being, if I can't do it wrong...) |
| [08:44:17] | mchou: | achew22: anything but gentoo. |
| [08:44:18] | Dagmar: | Juski: You've not spent so much time tearing your filesystem to shreds yet |
| [08:45:29] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: yep no jitter, no sync issues |
| [08:45:39] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: you know that the myth player has adjustment for sync, eight? |
| [08:46:07] | Juski: | I tore it to shreds pretty damn well last night, which is why I'm having to reinstall it. I now have a USB disk box in the bin because the bridge is fscking useless (text files were copied just fine but anything binary ended up with bad checksums.. tested the disk since & it's fine outside the USB case) |
| [08:46:08] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: i know of at least 3 |
| [08:46:15] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: I forget the key, but if you bring up osd menu it should be there |
| [08:46:23] | Juski: | m |
| [08:46:32] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: but what about the frame drops? |
| [08:46:42] | achew22: | mchou: I was thinking about making my own distro ;) |
| [08:46:45] | jake[laptop]: | mchou: just adjust the sync settings? |
| [08:46:55] | mchou: | jake[laptop]: if you sync audio maybe there wont be frame drops :) |
| [08:47:18] | mchou: | achew22: you have illusions of grandeur |
| [08:48:40] | mchou: | Juski: what USB/ide bridge is this? |
| [08:51:22] | Hoxzer: | achew22: can I have your age, sex and the location plz? |
| [08:51:37] | mchou: | Hoxzer: huh?? |
| [08:51:38] | Hoxzer: | and also I wanna know something about yoru experience with linux |
| [08:51:49] | Hoxzer: | mchou: :( lett him answe |
| [08:51:50] | Hoxzer: | r |
| [08:52:22] | Cardoe: | achew22: THERE IS |
| [08:52:30] | Cardoe: | achew22: EMERGE --SYNC LIKE I TOLD YOU |
| [08:52:35] | Cardoe: | 7th time now |
| [08:52:37] | mchou: | Hoxzer: you implying achew22 is virgin? |
| [08:52:41] | Cardoe: | then run emerge -auDv world |
| [08:52:51] | mchou: | Hoxzer: :) |
| [08:52:53] | Cardoe: | once you're done with that |
| [08:52:55] | Hoxzer: | mchou: wtf how did u know what I Was going to ask next? |
| [08:52:55] | Cardoe: | emerge mythtv |
| [08:53:09] | mchou: | Hoxzer: lol |
| [08:53:28] | mchou: | Hoxzer: cause I'm Dr. House in disuise :) |
| [08:53:34] | mchou: | disguise* |
| [08:54:06] | Cardoe: | mchou: I suggest achew22 stop repeating himself and listen my instructions. |
| [08:54:16] | Cardoe: | mchou: a re-install of a different distro won't help him |
| [08:54:27] | Cardoe: | if he can't follow the basics of the distro he is currently using |
| [08:54:44] | Hoxzer: | :] |
| [08:54:50] | Cardoe: | he won't follow the basics for any distro |
| [08:54:53] | Hoxzer: | knoppmyth is pretty easy to use |
| [08:55:06] | Dagmar: | Better still, knoppmyth has it's own support channel |
| [08:55:09] | Hoxzer: | but 0.19-fixes is crashing for me :/ |
| [08:55:11] | mchou: | Cardoe: a precompiled distro has fewer knobs for achew22 to screw up :) |
| [08:55:19] | Cardoe: | mchou: true |
| [08:55:45] | Cardoe: | mchou: I've been telling him for 58 minutes to run the following |
| [08:55:47] | Cardoe: | emerge --sync |
| [08:55:52] | Cardoe: | emerge -auDv world |
| [08:55:53] | Cardoe: | emerge mythtv |
| [08:56:04] | Cardoe: | and he still won't |
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| [08:56:14] | Dagmar: | Cardoe: I say just put him on /ignore |
| [08:56:19] | mchou: | Cardoe: how do you know he hasn't done so? |
| [08:56:31] | Dagmar: | There's no point in bothering to even try to help someoen who can't follow simple instructions |
| [08:57:20] | mchou: | Dagmar: there is also lil point trying to help someone who thinks gentoo is a challenge :) |
| [09:00:00] | LoneShadow: | anyone using pinaccle dc30 card ? |
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| [10:07:11] | ** Juski is emerging qt3 now :-) only 50 packages let ** | |
| [10:07:36] | Juski: | s/let/left |
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| [11:21:57] | Juski: | take note, uk users of mythstream tv: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5074406.stm |
| [11:24:30] | scopeuk: | who was it the otehr day said they had a palm m100? |
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| [11:25:28] | Juski: | scopeuk: gardengnome |
| [11:25:35] | scopeuk: | got mien setup asa serial console now |
| [11:25:49] | scopeuk: | Juski i thought so he aboiut or is he in bed? |
| [11:26:29] | Hoxzer: | Juski: what kind of system do u have on your box? |
| [11:26:50] | dscoular: | Bugger... tried to upgrade gentoo to 2006.0, recompiled mythtv 0.19-fixes svn and now mythfrontend segfaults on startup!?!! |
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| [11:27:06] | dscoular: | recompiling with debug now |
| [11:27:30] | Hoxzer: | :-) my backend likes to segfault |
| [11:27:47] | Hoxzer: | :-) if i had time I might do gdb test |
| [11:27:53] | dscoular: | the backend appears fine... it's recording a show... got 3 mins to go |
| [11:27:58] | Hoxzer: | but atm I rather use monit to restart it |
| [11:28:04] | Hoxzer: | and see if update will fix it |
| [11:28:21] | dscoular: | I've just compiled it but just need to wait 2 mins till I can run it under gdb. |
| [11:28:29] | dscoular: | Strace didn't give much away |
| [11:28:31] | Juski: | scopeuk: he might be around soonish |
| [11:29:35] | Juski: | btw scopeuk: I did a 'you' last night & torched my distro... lol |
| [11:31:22] | scopeuk: | ouch |
| [11:31:25] | scopeuk: | what were you playing with |
| [11:31:38] | scopeuk: | becouse im quite happy i edited inittab and it still boots properly |
| [11:31:56] | Juski: | paring the install down to a minimum. |
| [11:32:07] | scopeuk: | argh yes i was around while you were torturing it |
| [11:32:16] | Juski: | removed/moved some libs I shoudln't have ;-) |
| [11:32:58] | scopeuk: | always fun |
| [11:33:05] | scopeuk: | attempt rescue with knoppix? |
| [11:33:16] | scopeuk: | or netboot etc |
| [11:33:36] | Juski: | knoppix? pah |
| [11:34:07] | scopeuk: | i quite like knoppix i have the ast 8 or so versions aroun here somewhere |
| [11:34:07] | Juski: | www.broadcastnow.co.uk – bad news for us UK peeps :-/ |
| [11:34:15] | scopeuk: | whats your lvie cd of choice then juski? |
| [11:34:32] | scopeuk: | Juski love beingthe bearer of bad news dont you |
| [11:34:45] | scopeuk: | which bit juski? |
| [11:34:53] | Merlin83b: | Juski: "Ban on junk food ads could cost £141m"? |
| [11:34:56] | Juski: | gentoo works well – don't need any of the gui shite to do a reinstall |
| [11:35:03] | Juski: | Merlin83b: down a bit |
| [11:35:22] | scopeuk: | the bbc/c4 spectrum handover? |
| [11:35:24] | dscoular: | Is there a trick to using gdb with a multithreaded frontend... I can't do the attach thing since it's crashing on startup... |
| [11:35:38] | dscoular: | DISPLAY=:0 gdb /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend |
| [11:35:48] | dscoular: | (gdb) run -l /tmp/mythfrontend.log -v all |
| [11:36:04] | Juski: | they're gonna auction off the freed up spectrum to the highest bidder (yay!) :-/ |
| [11:36:28] | Merlin83b: | 3G all over again. |
| [11:36:34] | Merlin83b: | I shall now go and have lunch. |
| [11:36:42] | scopeuk: | Merlin83b sounds like a plan |
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| [11:42:44] | ** Juski reads an article about all the shitty quiz & shopping channels being axed from Freeview next year ** | |
| [11:43:14] | dscoular: | bugger mythtv-setup works fine!!! |
| [11:43:24] | Juski: | www.imadethatbitup.com :-P |
| [11:45:05] | dscoular: | Any suggestions on how to solve a seg fault with mythfrontend on startup ? |
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| [11:47:32] | Juski: | compile with debugging enabled & run it under gdb |
| [11:47:42] | Juski: | see the troubleshooting section of the docs |
| [11:48:08] | dscoular: | That's what I've done but gdb barfs because it's threaded and I can't do the attach a la docs since the segfault occurs on startup |
| [11:48:28] | Juski: | ouch |
| [11:49:06] | dscoular: | Sigh... think I'm just gonna do emerge -e world and hope for the best |
| [11:49:34] | scopeuk: | how many weeks you got? |
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| [11:49:56] | dscoular: | I'll try this first I guess: revdep-rebuild --library libstdc++.so.5 — -p -v |
| [11:50:02] | dscoular: | then take out the -p |
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| [11:51:58] | Juski: | dscoular: yes, if you say so.. no idea wth that does |
| [11:52:41] | dscoular: | It'll build all the packages that are dependangt on the new libstdc++ |
| [11:53:36] | dscoular: | s/dependangt/dependant |
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| [11:55:42] | Juski: | ahh that's like std library stuff.. so stdio etc? sounds pretty fundamental ;-) |
| [11:56:06] | Juski: | I deleted it last night accidentally (on purpose) |
| [11:56:58] | dscoular: | Now, it's only the C++ stdlib stuff... since only gnu C++ ABI has changed from 2005.0 to 2006.0 I only need to rebuild libraries and apps that are linked against the C++ stdlib stuff. |
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| [11:57:51] | dscoular: | Having said that, I'm not sure I trust it... I'm thinking I'll wait till star trek is recorder (what a loser I am) and bite the bullet and to the emerge -e world thang |
| [11:58:06] | dscoular: | that's 725 package recompilations... sigh. |
| [11:58:20] | dscoular: | including gcc, X, gnome and kde |
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| [12:01:27] | Hoxzer: | Juski: tell me what kind of system u have :) |
| [12:01:37] | Hoxzer: | Distro and myhtv version |
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| [12:05:29] | onetwo: | Juski, how long did your dd take in the end, I did one this morning with bs=1M on the end and it did 80gbyte in 2 hours 30 down a to a usb disk |
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| [12:13:35] | Juski: | onetwo: I left it for more than 16 hours & it still hasn't finished. it turned out that the usb bridge is a PoS – even copying the files myself didn't work – binaries were corrupted |
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| [12:19:07] | dscoular: | Juski, if your looking to shrink your distro footprint I hear good things about dietlibc |
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| [12:26:45] | Hoxzer: | Juski WHY OH WHY |
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| [12:32:28] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [12:32:46] | ** Beirdo started his online radio grabbing scripts again last night ** | |
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| [12:44:31] | onetwo: | Anyone heard any news about bbc hd over dvb-s working in mythtv? |
| [12:45:00] | scopeuk: | no but if you have the hardware to test it |
| [12:46:37] | onetwo: | I just bought a dvb-s card should have it tomorrow. I've had great success with current svn and both nova-t and dual pvr150 cards taking sky stb's so I thought I'd have a go with the FTA satellite. |
| [12:47:18] | Kelerion: | don't you need a dish? |
| [12:47:37] | Juski: | latest post on digitalspy suggests a guy using windows on a 3.2Ghz p4 gets about 17fps |
| [12:47:39] | Peit|work: | I've got mythtv to capture it, but my epia M1000 won't play it back |
| [12:48:11] | Peit|work: | my amd64 3000+ will play back the resulting files with coreAVC and a following wind (dunno fps off hand) |
| [12:49:12] | Juski: | Peit|work: and you are somehow surprised a 1ghz cpu can't play back h.264 HDTV? |
| [12:49:31] | Kelerion: | I heard all these high specs for HD.. but my laptop has a HD screen and it's only a 1.6ghz and will quite happily play any HD content I download and throw at it.. but it is running Windows |
| [12:49:31] | Peit|work: | Juski, did i say i was surprised :) |
| [12:50:03] | onetwo: | OK, it sounds encouraging then. I've got a 3000+, but I suppose that I can transcode it to mpeg2 if I'm not worried about live. |
| [12:50:05] | Peit|work: | Kelerion, try the BBC-HD stream it's nuts, 20mps (iirc) and doing funky interlaced/progressive stuff on random frames |
| [12:50:30] | Juski: | the bbc stuff is <>20mbps h.264 |
| [12:50:35] | Peit|work: | Juski, it won't even open the file, and I don't have another mythfrontend to play it back |
| [12:50:51] | Peit|work: | so i just watched the stream in windows |
| [12:51:14] | Kelerion: | the stuff I downloaded to try it was wmv9 at 1080i .. and you could tell it was struggling.. but it played it |
| [12:51:18] | Juski: | the via board only has mpeg2 decoding assistance anyway |
| [12:51:43] | Juski: | my athlon 2800 can play 1080i mpeg2 without too much problem |
| [12:51:56] | Peit|work: | juski it didn't even try, it just locked up, I only tried it for fun :) |
| [12:52:35] | Peit|work: | the stream looks pretty though, I need to swap monitors around to test it a 1–1 pixel, rather than trying to scale it down |
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| [12:55:06] | onetwo: | So to be clear: |
| [12:55:33] | Peit|work: | does ffmpeg support MBAFF yet? |
| [12:55:34] | onetwo: | Yes I will be able to record the stream, and then I can watch it in Windows but not mythfrontend |
| [12:56:06] | onetwo: | I thought I saw something from Stuarta about that |
| [12:57:06] | Peit|work: | I think there are some patches for ffmpeg and MBAFF, and i remember a patch or two for H.264 stuff for myth, but i also remember isaac reporting that he had it working |
| [12:57:41] | onetwo: | I thought I saw that from Isaac as well, but couldn't find it again |
| [12:58:26] | ** Peit|work looks in his mailbox ** | |
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| [12:58:50] | Juski: | anyway there's nothing set in stone yet about the final uk HDTV format. |
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| [12:59:13] | scopeuk: | lets face t once they do someone will release a car with a hardware decoder |
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| [12:59:27] | Kelerion: | I can't figure out a way to capture HD from a Sky STB.. so I think I'm pretty screwed.. lol |
| [12:59:27] | Hoxzer: | Juski: tell me if u can hear me? |
| [12:59:36] | Juski: | scopeuk: like they have in the US you mean? :-) |
| [12:59:54] | Peit|work: | o.k. onetwo, isaac had the serentity trailer playing back fine, |
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| [13:00:02] | Juski: | $ky can go fsck themselves ;-) |
| [13:00:20] | Peit|work: | kelerion get a pci dvb-s card and grab the raw ts |
| [13:00:59] | Peit|work: | Juski, at least it _should_ be free-to-air, although it may be DVB-S2 |
| [13:01:12] | Kelerion: | but then anything that sky actually broadcast in HD will be on an encrypted channel.. .so I wouldn't be able to get it anyways |
| [13:02:17] | Peit|work: | aye, |
| [13:02:41] | Juski: | the bbc trial stream is FTA |
| [13:02:51] | Juski: | the only one though |
| [13:02:55] | Kelerion: | great... Eastenders in HD |
| [13:03:13] | Peit|work: | planet earth, footy, some drama prog, but other stuff |
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| [13:03:32] | Peit|work: | it wouldn't surprise me if they did a simulcast of BBC1 |
| [13:04:15] | Peit|work: | on a completely un-related note, is there any form of PDC for myth and DVB-S? myth keeps cutting over channels too early |
| [13:04:49] | Kelerion: | PDC? |
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| [13:06:08] | Peit|work: | Program delivery control |
| [13:06:36] | Kelerion: | got it... just googled :) |
| [13:08:48] | janneg: | Peit|work: nothing working. I had a working solution but due to the changes of eit code it isn't working anymore. |
| [13:09:06] | janneg: | I hadn't the time to update it. |
| [13:10:22] | Peit|work: | janneg, ooh, if you need a beta tester :) it will mean i don't have to fall back to dirty ntl cable box for my weeky DrWho fix |
| [13:11:27] | scopeuk: | Peit|work you stuck with one ofthose fscked up boxes too? |
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| [13:12:39] | Peit|work: | scopeuk, those ntl pace jobs,.. yep, it's the only way I can Channel 5 :) |
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| [13:15:21] | scopeuk: | ouch |
| [13:15:40] | scopeuk: | i finaly got a samsung out of em |
| [13:15:46] | scopeuk: | its better btu still not fantastic |
| [13:15:53] | ** Peit|work is looking forward to the day channel 5 goes FTA ** | |
| [13:16:01] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [13:16:06] | scopeuk: | it still is on analog |
| [13:16:22] | janneg: | Peit|work: it will take some time. I'm currently working on more important stuff |
| [13:16:30] | Peit|work: | janneg, i understand :) |
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| [13:21:55] | Juski: | oh if you're wondering how fast channel changing with dvb has become in svn – it's faster than changing channels on an ntl cable box (but then, what isn't?) ;-) |
| [13:22:22] | Peit|work: | cool |
| [13:22:34] | Peit|work: | my NTL cable changing is quicker than my DVB-S :) |
| [13:23:04] | Juski: | okay then – it's quicker than bringing up the EPG on an ntl box ;-) |
| [13:23:45] | Peit|work: | :) |
| [13:24:37] | scopeuk: | juski on what hadware? |
| [13:24:38] | JustWilliam: | not hard |
| [13:25:13] | JustWilliam: | any body want a coolermaster atc 620 case |
| [13:25:14] | scopeuk: | hey will |
| [13:25:17] | JustWilliam: | hi |
| [13:25:33] | Merlin83b2: | Juski (or anyone else for that matter): Heard any reports or soltions about colours being washed out on DVB-T LiveTV? |
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| [13:27:04] | Juski: | Merlin83b: nope. looks great, always |
| [13:28:38] | Merlin83b: | Damn. It looked like the same thing I had with my recordings but that got sorted by putting hue back to something sensible. It is already on LiveTV. |
| [13:29:12] | Juski: | see the dev list thread about 'wrong color' (sic) on epia |
| [13:30:16] | Juski: | not that any PAL system should let you mess with hue of course |
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| [13:31:14] | Merlin83b: | Juski: Happen to have a link? Nothing immediately obvious... |
| [13:31:29] | stuarta: | afternoon siesta all |
| [13:31:37] | Merlin83b: | Hi stuarta |
| [13:31:56] | GreyFoxx: | Is it just me, or does EIT scanning give up too easily? I've reset my slave and it appears that as soon as the scanner hits a channel it can't tune for some reason it halts and never tries to continue |
| [13:32:31] | stuarta: | GreyFoxx: It might get stuck, but should continue when it's due to change channel |
| [13:35:33] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, 2006-06–13 10:32:42.071 TVRec(3) Error: Failed to set channel to 3780. Reverting to kState_None |
| [13:35:33] | GreyFoxx: | 2006-06–13 10:32:42.072 EITScanner: Now looking for EIT data on multiplex of channel 3780 |
| [13:35:40] | GreyFoxx: | I see that |
| [13:35:48] | GreyFoxx: | and then it never tries again |
| [13:35:54] | GreyFoxx: | unitil I restart the backend |
| [13:36:06] | stuarta: | hmmm. |
| [13:36:08] | GreyFoxx: | does it still pull EIT data during a receording as well ? |
| [13:36:22] | stuarta: | yup |
| [13:36:22] | GreyFoxx: | I tried "forcing" it that way and still got nothing |
| [13:36:43] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't looked at the code yet, I just noticed that my data was empty last night :) |
| [13:38:26] | janneg: | GreyFoxx: nothing with -v eit? |
| [13:38:32] | GreyFoxx: | janneg: nada |
| [13:38:56] | GreyFoxx: | I see that message, then nothing related to EIT again until a restart of the backend. |
| [13:38:57] | janneg: | strange |
| [13:39:29] | GreyFoxx: | Even if it can't change to the channel I would have expected it to try another one minutes later |
| [13:39:59] | stuarta: | unless it's stuck in the signalmonitor?? |
| [13:40:04] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm |
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| [13:41:02] | ** GreyFoxx starts logging a -v all ** | |
| [13:41:27] | ** stuarta suggest -v siparser,eit,record,channel would be sufficient ** | |
| [13:41:46] | Beirdo: | GAH |
| [13:41:59] | Beirdo: | pr.archive.ubuntu.com is located in UK? |
| [13:42:00] | Beirdo: | fuck that |
| [13:42:08] | Beirdo: | I'll stick with a US source, thanks |
| [13:42:11] | janneg: | stuarta: I don't think so. the eitscanner thread should retune after EITTransportTimeout |
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| [13:42:28] | stuarta: | janneg: that's what I'd expect it to do as well.... |
| [13:43:04] | Beirdo: | I'm not gonna pull my apt-get upgrade stuff from the UK, THROUGH the US. heh |
| [13:46:05] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm, I wonder if my channel database is messed up. and it's making the eitscanner have a fit and stop scanning altogether |
| [13:46:18] | GreyFoxx: | http://pastebin.ca/65111 |
| [13:46:36] | scopeuk: | i gave up onuk only upgrades seans eas how uk law kindamakes it illegal to use a computer for anything other than solitare |
| [13:46:44] | scopeuk: | technicaly you cant even rip dvds ffs |
| [13:46:54] | GreyFoxx: | I wonder if a channel scan would want to work for me today |
| [13:47:24] | Beirdo: | scopeuk, yeah, but who obeys the law? |
| [13:47:50] | Beirdo: | I'm sure that everyone here of driving age is a chronic speeder too |
| [13:48:39] | scopeuk: | im of driving age but i dont drive lol |
| [13:48:52] | Beirdo: | OK, all of driving age who drive ;) |
| [13:48:53] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [13:49:04] | scopeuk: | have a provisional license which ive held over a year and jsut couldent be botherd (or a fford for that matter) to learn to drive |
| [13:49:16] | Beirdo: | I didn't bother to get my license until I was 25, so I'm not one to talk there |
| [13:49:18] | scopeuk: | driving lessons are jsut soo bloody expensive |
| [13:49:23] | scopeuk: | im 18 |
| [13:49:39] | Beirdo: | that's because you drive on the wrong side of the road :) (ducks and runs) |
| [13:49:51] | scopeuk: | i could say the same |
| [13:49:52] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [13:50:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [13:50:02] | dev: | i speed :) |
| [13:50:06] | Beirdo: | we drive on the RIGHT side |
| [13:50:08] | scopeuk: | ive tried drivign on the right side of the road its jsut those other bloody road users |
| [13:50:14] | Beirdo: | so you must be on the wrong side |
| [13:50:23] | scopeuk: | heh very funney |
| [13:50:35] | scopeuk: | your driving possitionis on the wrogn side of the car i mean outrs is right |
| [13:50:42] | Beirdo: | isn't the English language great? |
| [13:50:52] | scopeuk: | oh yeh |
| [13:50:58] | scopeuk: | about 12 different versions |
| [13:51:26] | stuarta: | do you know why England drives on the left? |
| [13:51:47] | Beirdo: | because you gotta be different than the US? |
| [13:51:48] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [13:51:50] | Beirdo: | no |
| [13:51:56] | Juski: | Merlin83b: my mistook – but it was the 1st thread in the dev archive anyway |
| [13:52:07] | Beirdo: | I'm sure it has to do with medieval times and jousting, etc though |
| [13:52:11] | Merlin83b: | Inverted colours, Juski? |
| [13:52:12] | Peit|work: | almost |
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| [13:52:36] | Juski: | Merlin83b: you mentioned hue & it rang a bell |
| [13:52:44] | Merlin83b: | K, thanks. Reading that now. |
| [13:52:49] | stuarta: | cause when everyone use to travel around in horse drawn carriages, the right arm was required to hold onto the sword for chopping off bits of those trying to rob you... |
| [13:53:07] | dev: | lol |
| [13:53:16] | Juski: | stuarta: a bit like now really :-P |
| [13:53:25] | Beirdo: | they coulda just strengthened the left arm instead :) |
| [13:53:30] | Beirdo: | but yeah, makes sense |
| [13:53:32] | Juski: | only now it's guns, not swords |
| [13:54:38] | Beirdo: | Hmmm |
| [13:54:45] | Beirdo: | this show is not what the schedule said |
| [13:54:59] | Beirdo: | it was supposed to be Blues After Hours |
| [13:55:01] | Beirdo: | it ain't |
| [13:55:24] | Beirdo: | right now they have Mark Knopfler & Emmy Lou Harris singing. Interesting combo |
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| [13:57:13] | scopeuk: | gotta say i like the south african alternative to avoiding geting robed/jacked |
| [13:57:24] | stuarta: | not stop? |
| [13:57:26] | Juski: | heheheh |
| [13:57:28] | Beirdo: | the car-mounted flame-thrower is cool |
| [13:57:29] | scopeuk: | seam to rember it involving several parafin burners |
| [13:57:29] | Juski: | woof! |
| [13:57:35] | scopeuk: | Beirdo thats the one |
| [13:57:44] | Beirdo: | you WILL get arrested if you kill someone |
| [13:57:45] | scopeuk: | and a 3/4th pedal |
| [13:57:54] | ** stuarta puts in an order for a flame thrower ** | |
| [13:57:57] | Beirdo: | but it's self defense (according to a South African friend) |
| [13:58:14] | Beirdo: | but that would be a severe deterrant for sure |
| [13:58:35] | Beirdo: | one crispy-critter carjacker |
| [13:58:48] | gardengnome: | well, if you don't wanna get killed, keep your dirty hands off my car. |
| [13:58:56] | Beirdo: | basically :) |
| [13:59:05] | Beirdo: | or steal it when I'm not in it |
| [13:59:10] | Juski: | those nylon shellsuits scallies wear would go up just nicely too |
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| [13:59:19] | Beirdo: | oh god |
| [13:59:25] | gardengnome: | make that the eleventh commandment or something. and call it the "get a clue" or "common sense" rule |
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| [13:59:37] | stuarta: | I want to bring back stocks into town centres. lock up the scum for a few days... |
| [13:59:50] | Beirdo: | and keep a paddle next to it |
| [13:59:54] | Beirdo: | WHACK! |
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| [14:00:03] | stuarta: | rotten tomatoes. |
| [14:00:07] | opello: | charge $1/whack, earn some money |
| [14:00:12] | Juski: | I still maintain that sterilising em is the best way – even more so if their traits are genetic |
| [14:00:17] | Beirdo: | hey, now there's an idea |
| [14:00:49] | stuarta: | there a line in a song from a few years ago "only stupid people are breeding" sums it up |
| [14:00:51] | Beirdo: | not too humane, but at least it should solve the problem in a generation or so |
| [14:01:05] | Juski: | oops I forgot about their 'human rights' |
| [14:01:13] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [14:01:19] | Beirdo: | send em to Guantanamo |
| [14:01:23] | opello: | harvey danger – paranoia |
| [14:01:24] | Beirdo: | they have no rights there |
| [14:01:30] | gardengnome: | human rights? gee. go fsck yourself, hippie. ;) |
| [14:01:42] | Beirdo: | says the guy with the long hair |
| [14:01:42] | opello: | i just heard that song on my playlist, heh |
| [14:01:45] | stuarta: | i reckon that by committing certain crimes you should automatically forfeit you own human rights |
| [14:01:48] | gardengnome: | anyways, gotta go |
| [14:01:50] | Juski: | they all smoked / popped too much in the 60s & 70s |
| [14:02:09] | Beirdo: | and shagged too much too |
| [14:02:13] | stuarta: | ie. the crimes where you violate someone else's human rights. |
| [14:02:22] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [14:02:25] | gardengnome: | Beirdo: i'm by no means a hippie. and i'm not responsible for your baldness, so don't yell at me. it's just a sign for virility, ok? |
| [14:02:29] | gardengnome: | ;) |
| [14:02:33] | Beirdo: | rapists should be castrated :) |
| [14:02:55] | opello: | physically, not chemically |
| [14:02:59] | Beirdo: | gardengnome, you silly boy. here, have a wireless mouse! *BONK* |
| [14:03:00] | stuarta: | soon sort out the problem. |
| [14:03:07] | Beirdo: | opello, far far more effective, yes |
| [14:03:20] | Beirdo: | you ain't gonna do THAT again, rapist |
| [14:03:25] | opello: | heh |
| [14:03:30] | dev: | should revert to the old times, use the pear on rapists |
| [14:03:40] | dev: | that sure would curb rapes |
| [14:03:40] | stuarta: | where is it they chop off fingers for stealing stuff... |
| [14:03:48] | Beirdo: | of course, we'd have to be REAL sure that we got the right person |
| [14:03:49] | opello: | whole hand i thought |
| [14:03:50] | dev: | sutarta: india/pakistan/saudi arabia |
| [14:03:55] | Juski: | shariah law? |
| [14:04:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [14:04:03] | opello: | yeah |
| [14:04:08] | Juski: | some parts of that make sense |
| [14:04:17] | Beirdo: | iran/iraq, etc. anywhere with strict islamic shariah law |
| [14:04:17] | scopeuk: | gardengnome got my palm m100 setup as a serial console :-0 |
| [14:04:18] | stuarta: | anywhere the 'eye for an eye' principle holds |
| [14:04:19] | scopeuk: | ;-) |
| [14:04:22] | janneg: | GreyFoxx: there's something messed up with that channel |
| [14:04:30] | Beirdo: | although Iraq ain't too strict |
| [14:04:35] | Beirdo: | not now anyways |
| [14:04:55] | dev: | once the us leaves they'll start the old ways again ;) |
| [14:05:07] | Beirdo: | oh, quite likely |
| [14:05:22] | dev: | rubber tubes up the ass etc |
| [14:05:30] | dev: | heh |
| [14:05:30] | janneg: | Do you have more than one channel with channum 3780? |
| [14:05:48] | Beirdo: | ah, now some Paul Simon. Still not blues |
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| [14:16:41] | qu0zl: | dev by the way, india isn't muslim |
| [14:16:58] | dev: | didnt say they were, but ive seen enough videos out of there to know that they cut off the hands of people who steal :) |
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| [14:24:44] | Juski: | but it doesn't _stop_ people stealing... oh damn. I feel all wooly now |
| [14:25:34] | dev: | it sure stops them from holding things |
| [14:25:36] | dev: | hehe |
| [14:25:38] | scopeuk: | heh ive see nsharia law dictate that a man who stabed a father todeath must be stabed to death by the mans son |
| [14:25:50] | scopeuk: | they take the one you at with as well |
| [14:25:54] | dev: | i saw a video out of mogadishu where a guy got to do that |
| [14:26:00] | scopeuk: | becosue u wipe with one adn eat wit hthe other (traditionaly) |
| [14:26:09] | Beirdo: | qu0zl, part of India is Muslim |
| [14:26:10] | scopeuk: | do it again they take the other |
| [14:26:12] | dev: | the one claiming revenge stabbed the guy in the stomach a couple times so he could bleed on the ground for a while |
| [14:26:24] | dev: | then stabbed him in the face |
| [14:26:25] | dev: | heh |
| [14:26:48] | scopeuk: | does that ammuse you onthe level of video games are are you truly decensortised |
| [14:26:51] | qu0zl: | Beirdo what part? there's a pretty low muslim population |
| [14:26:56] | Juski: | human beings are _great_ aren't they? :-P |
| [14:27:00] | qu0zl: | it was mostly split alongst religious lines |
| [14:27:03] | dev: | uh, no, but knowing what goes on in the world isnt a crime or wrong |
| [14:27:18] | Beirdo: | yes, but in the north, there's still a significant Muslim population |
| [14:27:18] | scopeuk: | we apearto be the onyl specys o nthe planet that practises internal killing for no good purpose |
| [14:27:25] | scopeuk: | higher brain functiosn cause nothign but truble |
| [14:27:29] | scopeuk: | instincts are far safer |
| [14:27:30] | Beirdo: | so says the Indian Muslim friend I have |
| [14:27:33] | Beirdo: | I dunno :) |
| [14:27:34] | dev: | scopeuk: but truthfully, yes, i am decencitized unfortunately. started seeing these kinds of videos at 15 when i first got on the internet with 28.8 |
| [14:27:36] | dev: | now im 27 heh |
| [14:27:48] | qu0zl: | well he ought to know :) |
| [14:27:58] | scopeuk: | im not fully desensited althoguh i belvie that some of by friedns are |
| [14:28:08] | scopeuk: | searching for videos of beheadign ect its truly sickenting to me |
| [14:28:21] | dev: | i still have them on my hd heh |
| [14:28:34] | scopeuk: | thats nasty |
| [14:28:40] | dev: | and i was the kind of person to replay the mand analyse and say the first one that came out was fake because the guy made no noise, he was already dead when they beheaded him |
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| [14:28:54] | dev: | then the second one, nick berg actually, he was definitely alive because of hte wheezing and squirming and noises he made |
| [14:28:57] | dev: | ... ;/ |
| [14:29:23] | dev: | so yeah. i have issues. |
| [14:29:30] | dev: | but i dont act on any of this shit |
| [14:29:41] | dev: | just prepared for the worst |
| [14:29:48] | Beirdo: | suuuure |
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| [14:35:55] | ** stuarta wants to sleep in the corner ** | |
| [14:37:36] | dev: | 2006-06–13 10:37:19.469 Scheduled 545 items in 2.9 = 0.01 match + 2.91 place |
| [14:37:39] | dev: | geez |
| [14:37:59] | Zider: | huh? |
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| [14:38:27] | stuarta: | that's rather a lot of recordings... |
| [14:39:36] | dev: | see how long it takes to fill up the new storage array heh |
| [14:39:37] | ** Juski pities 'gbaily', or whoever is using that pc right now ** | |
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| [15:35:35] | ** Beirdo laugs ** | |
| [15:35:40] | Beirdo: | laughs even |
| [15:35:56] | Beirdo: | I wanted to find a song on my fileserver... so the commandline: |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | locate Asshole |
| [15:36:01] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [15:38:01] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris | |
| [15:38:10] | Beirdo: | morning, xris |
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| [15:42:29] | xris: | morning. off to work. |
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| [15:47:51] | Juski: | I am _so_ going to make binary packages out of this lot when it's done |
| [15:48:54] | sapbeast: | dangerous activities: installing vista public beta 2 |
| [15:50:27] | Juski: | my new linux system has a very bad vulnerability. I can ssh into it & delete files at will (!) |
| [15:50:37] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [15:52:32] | stuarta: | i'm not going anywhere near vista |
| [15:53:23] | Juski: | I wonder how many minutes elapse between each time it phones home |
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| [15:54:14] | Juski: | oo btw stuarta I'll be able to pick up testing svn again soon, maybe by the weekend-ish |
| [15:54:58] | stuarta: | lucky you :) I'm having trouble finding time to code anything. |
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| [16:03:39] | Merlin83b2: | Juski: Some of us are looking forward to it, so long as we don't have to do soldering of IDE headers and the like. |
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| [16:05:34] | Juski: | lol |
| [16:05:58] | Juski: | I dunno when my effort will be able to be classed as 'production' though |
| [16:06:03] | Dug02: | do dvb drivers work for analog? I have a pchdtv3000 and I dont know if I should be using video4linux or dvb or both? |
| [16:06:04] | Juski: | i.e. don't hold yer breath ;-) |
| [16:06:27] | Juski: | Dug02: you asked this earlier & I said no then too |
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| [16:06:44] | Dug02: | Juski: sorry didnt see the response |
| [16:06:57] | Juski: | for HDTV, use DVB. for analogue you need v4l |
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| [16:07:53] | Juski: | as for whether you can use both at the same time, i've no idea |
| [16:08:19] | Dug02: | Juski: it appears that if you use both the analog locks and the hdtv is jumpy |
| [16:08:44] | Dug02: | litterally freezes the kernel |
| [16:09:20] | Juski: | not much of a shock considering the analogue side is software encoding |
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| [16:14:32] | denmaeth: | dang i just printed the myth manual |
| [16:15:33] | Juski: | good chance to get some reading done then ;-) |
| [16:16:15] | denmaeth: | i am still not sure the best way to hook up the pvr300 with a dig cable box then back to the tv so i can record and watch 2 diff chanels |
| [16:16:45] | denmaeth: | cant seem to get my head around it |
| [16:17:01] | Juski: | erm... one cable box & 2 capture devices? |
| [16:17:16] | denmaeth: | yes |
| [16:17:45] | Juski: | with that you could watch something and record the same thing.. or watch something or record something |
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| [16:18:26] | Juski: | unless you have an antenna connection and you're happy to be able to record analogue cable |
| [16:18:57] | Juski: | you won't be able to record/watch 2 different digital channels when you have just the one cable box |
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| [16:19:53] | denmaeth: | i guess what my question is i would have one lead in from the cable box and the #2 lead just straight cable right |
| [16:22:17] | Juski: | composite/svideo & audio from the digital cable box into the AV inputs of the pvr500, then connect an analogue feed into the cable/ant input of the pvr500 (not pvr300 iirc) |
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| [16:24:17] | denmaeth: | ahh ok pvr500 card. cool thats answers my question. thanks Juski |
| [16:24:59] | zx81: | bear in mind that the RF feed goes to both halves of the card. the AV sockets go to only one half ;-) |
| [16:26:09] | denmaeth: | ok |
| [16:26:31] | denmaeth: | so with the pvr500 i would only need one card right |
| [16:26:41] | zx81: | yup |
| [16:26:44] | scopeuk: | for two streams yes |
| [16:27:23] | denmaeth: | thanks a bunch |
| [16:27:23] | zx81: | hough if you have digital cable it might be more worth your while trying to get a cable box with firewire & using that instead... digital-digital all the way |
| [16:28:43] | denmaeth: | and it was worth printing the manual than trying to read it online i can make notes and high lite stuff so i dont forget. |
| [16:28:58] | zx81: | good plan that man |
| [16:30:51] | denmaeth: | what style box would be the best for the front room so it dosnt look like just another computer and i also am concerned about noise |
| [16:31:19] | ** Merlin83b2 points at Tranquil T2e ** | |
| [16:31:24] | Merlin83b2: | If you have cash to spare :-) |
| [16:32:04] | denmaeth: | cool im looking now |
| [16:32:05] | ** zx81 points at www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/s100 ** | |
| [16:32:22] | zx81: | (if you have time to spare) :-P |
| [16:32:55] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, thatif you only want a frontend. |
| [16:33:06] | zx81: | oops |
| [16:33:12] | zx81: | vi fs_ioctl.c |
| [16:33:27] | zx81: | and oops again |
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| [16:35:18] | zx81: | Merlin83b2: do you use full size HDDs in your box? |
| [16:35:34] | Merlin83b2: | zx81: I do, currently 2 of them until I finish getting the newer one set up. |
| [16:35:52] | Merlin83b2: | Also, two tuner cards. |
| [16:36:13] | zx81: | must be a snug fit in that box ;-) |
| [16:36:36] | Merlin83b2: | It's surprisingly roomy. |
| [16:36:49] | Merlin83b2: | I don't have an optical drive in there, but it doesn't look like that would make stuff too tight either. |
| [16:38:50] | zx81: | is it all cool enough with all that? |
| [16:39:22] | zx81: | I expect it is – looks a very well designed case |
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| [16:39:36] | Merlin83b2: | I haven't experienced any problems with it, been on constantly for a few months. |
| [16:39:44] | Merlin83b2: | Plus no fans to go wrong :-) |
| [16:39:50] | zx81: | 37 of 47 packages emerged... almost there... |
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| [16:54:35] | denmaeth: | one more question – what os works the best. I am a debian user but was wondering about knoppmyth |
| [16:55:18] | kormoc: | the distro you know the best is the best |
| [16:55:27] | psofa: | :) |
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| [17:03:51] | joem236: | hello all |
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| [17:06:48] | joem236: | about mythweb...are there any design decisions which have prevented the PHP code from moving to a more OO model? |
| [17:07:29] | joem236: | also I saw that there was going to be an effort to use more AJAXy stuff in the mythweb infrastructure...has anyone looked at XAJAX? |
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| [17:11:22] | speedsix: | Hi all |
| [17:12:04] | joem236: | hello |
| [17:14:46] | joem236: | so anyhow I can start to classify the mythweb ui and work on that if there are no objections... |
| [17:23:42] | kormoc: | well, the ajax lib in mythweb is a very simple, and very easy to customly enhance |
| [17:23:48] | kormoc: | it's not a framework by any means |
| [17:25:01] | kormoc: | As for the OO stuff, you should talk to xris about the way mythweb is moving, as that would really dictate what style OO would really benifit |
| [17:25:57] | speedsix: | Does anyone know where to find the setting that tells mythweb what classes as a 'movie' in the data. The latest version finds no movies in the search section |
| [17:26:02] | kormoc: | xajax is interesting |
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| [17:34:22] | LoneShadow: | Hi, I just loaded a driver for an old Mpeg card (Pinnacle Miro DC10+), how do I test this card before installing mythtv ? |
| [17:34:27] | LoneShadow: | Any suggestions ? |
| [17:34:51] | kormoc: | mplayer /dev/video0 ? |
| [17:35:59] | LoneShadow: | I tried cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg. that didnt work. I guess i will try mplayer |
| [17:37:22] | LoneShadow: | nope dosnt work, I see driver being accessed in dmesg, anytime someone opens or closes the /dev/video0 |
| [17:37:41] | kormoc: | well, I would imagine that the driver isn't working right |
| [17:37:47] | LoneShadow: | I guess, something is broken :( |
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| [17:37:53] | LoneShadow: | yea, either that or the card :D |
| [17:38:01] | joem236: | kormoc, hi thanks for the info, I'll get a hold of xris through the day... |
| [17:38:29] | joem236: | also is the Rewrite Rule known to be broken in svn trunk? |
| [17:38:39] | kormoc: | no? |
| [17:38:42] | kormoc: | what's broken about it? |
| [17:39:25] | joem236: | The requested URL /home/joem/public_html/mythweb-0.20/mythweb.php was not found on this server. |
| [17:39:46] | joem236: | if I add the mythweb.php to the end of the url it's fine though I have to do it for every link |
| [17:41:07] | joem236: | I was going to change the links to be generated by a get_link() fn which would make changes like this easy though I'm not sure that's the problem... |
| [17:41:16] | kormoc: | weird, the file hasn't been touched in 2 months |
| [17:41:23] | kormoc: | and the rewrite rules work fine for myself |
| [17:41:27] | joem236: | at least not the immediate one :) |
| [17:41:29] | joem236: | hmm |
| [17:41:40] | joem236: | the only difference is that I'm using a vhost |
| [17:41:49] | kormoc: | I use a vhost as well |
| [17:41:56] | joem236: | but the URL should not have the entire path in it |
| [17:41:58] | kormoc: | you sure you have the override setting in the vhost.conf? |
| [17:42:27] | kormoc: | oh |
| [17:42:28] | kormoc: | heh |
| [17:42:37] | kormoc: | check out lines 124 to 127 |
| [17:42:41] | kormoc: | that might apply to you |
| [17:42:45] | joem236: | ah |
| [17:43:57] | joem236: | much better :-D |
| [17:44:12] | speedsix: | Does anyone know where to find the setting that tells mythweb what classes as a 'movie' in the data. The latest version finds no movies in the search section? |
| [17:44:24] | joem236: | why use the rewrite rule for the page factory? |
| [17:44:30] | joem236: | just curious is all... |
| [17:44:48] | kormoc: | xris really likes mod rewrite |
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| [17:44:56] | joem236: | ah...seems fragile is all |
| [17:45:36] | kormoc: | speedsix, it usually is a zap2it field iirc |
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| [17:45:53] | kormoc: | joem236, not too much, it works decently well without needing php code to do it for you. |
| [17:45:56] | speedsix: | kormoc I use uk_tv_grab_rt |
| [17:46:23] | joem236: | hmm...ok |
| [17:46:33] | speedsix: | I remember seeing an option in one of the mythweb config files but can't find it now |
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| [18:07:50] | zx81: | ohhh what?! twm is masked?! grrrr |
| [18:09:28] | kormoc: | lwm is faster/smaller :) |
| [18:09:42] | Zider: | fluxbox is nicer :) |
| [18:09:52] | zx81: | heheh |
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| [18:10:26] | Juski: | lwm.. twm.. same thing by the time they've been in the great bz2 file in my grey matter ;-) |
| [18:11:41] | Juski: | 45kB vs 656kB... lwm wins |
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| [18:12:41] | kormoc: | heh, yeah |
| [18:12:52] | kormoc: | I love having my x server on my mythbox load up in under a second |
| [18:12:57] | Juski: | it's just a bunch of scripts, looking at the amount of time it took to install |
| [18:13:30] | Juski: | all I want from my wm is to keep focus where it should be |
| [18:13:48] | kormoc: | yeah, which is why I used lwm |
| [18:14:04] | GreyFoxx: | lwm is 45K ? Wow, now that's small |
| [18:14:14] | GreyFoxx: | Icewm is around 500K stripped which is why I use it |
| [18:14:17] | GreyFoxx: | 45 is even better :) |
| [18:14:33] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, heh, yeah, lwm is 50k source, 45k compiled, and a single file :) |
| [18:14:35] | Juski: | I learned my lesson from last night. tonight I'll get it working, then make a full backup. lucky / is only 10GB this time around |
| [18:14:53] | jasta: | kormoc: boo. |
| [18:15:04] | ** kormoc runs screaming from jasta ** | |
| [18:15:13] | kormoc: | mornin' Mr. jasta |
| [18:15:23] | Juski: | kormoc: I didn't see any gcc'ing going on when I emerged it. |
| [18:15:23] | jasta: | had the official relationship talk with my lady friend last night |
| [18:15:31] | Zider: | doesn't mean it uses 45k ram tho ;) |
| [18:15:34] | Juski: | oops... it did though |
| [18:15:36] | kormoc: | jasta, yeah? |
| [18:15:45] | jasta: | kormoc: Yeah, so now my lady friend is my girlfriend hehe |
| [18:15:57] | Zider: | jasta: way to go :D |
| [18:15:58] | kormoc: | jasta, yay! good to hear |
| [18:16:16] | Zider: | jasta: now give all your other lady friends my phone number ;) |
| [18:16:42] | jasta: | feels weird because i think this one might just work around |
| [18:16:45] | jasta: | err work out |
| [18:16:49] | Juski: | the only people I know not in serious relationships are windows users. funny, that |
| [18:16:51] | kormoc: | Zider, 2,976 kB according to pmap :) |
| [18:17:07] | Juski: | no commitment! |
| [18:17:09] | jasta: | bbl, i gotta get some work done |
| [18:17:09] | ** kormoc pokes Juski ** | |
| [18:17:16] | ** kormoc waves to jasta ** | |
| [18:17:32] | Juski: | 3MB?! disgusting.... |
| [18:17:35] | Juski: | ...ly small.. |
| [18:17:35] | Zider: | kormoc: 8MB for fluxbox here.. ;) |
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| [18:17:56] | Juski: | considering I never plan to even see the desktop... |
| [18:19:05] | Zider: | 6,4MB on the mediacenter.. so it depends on config I guess :P |
| [18:27:15] | janneg: | fluxbox is 497kb with themes |
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| [18:36:50] | nallic: | hello.. Im setting up myhttv to use my Avermedia98 remote. LIRC works fine, irw gives the commands as i press the button. I also know how lircrc works. But I just cant find a list of the keywords for mythtv commands ... :/ |
| [18:37:10] | nallic: | can anyone point me towards what can be put in the "config = " ? |
| [18:38:48] | psofa: | nallic, config=Esc |
| [18:38:53] | psofa: | config=Up |
| [18:39:03] | psofa: | config=Return |
| [18:39:13] | psofa: | generally its the same as button names |
| [18:39:32] | nallic: | hmm.. and theres not really a list or something anywhere ? |
| [18:39:54] | psofa: | nallic, theres a list on what keyboard buttons do |
| [18:39:58] | GreyFoxx: | Blah, my scan wont find anything. Looks like I'll have to try a dvbscan |
| [18:40:02] | psofa: | in the myth docs |
| [18:40:13] | nallic: | psofa, ok.. ill look there |
| [18:40:37] | nallic: | my debian install lacks the generic lircrc for mythtv |
| [18:40:51] | nallic: | anywhere on the net that can be downloaded from.. as a starter ? |
| [18:41:14] | psofa: | nallic, i think thers one in the contrib directory |
| [18:41:33] | psofa: | but im not sure if it uses irxevent or native lirc |
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| [18:45:08] | janneg: | GreyFoxx: Can you paste "SELECT * FROM channel,dtv_multiplex WHERE channel.mplexid = dtv_multiplex.mplexid AND channum = 3780" |
| [18:50:47] | psofa: | ?? |
| [18:50:57] | psofa: | why chanum 3780? |
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| [18:53:50] | speedsix: | Any C programmers in here? |
| [18:55:24] | speedsix: | Aww c'mon don't hide |
| [18:55:55] | Zider: | don't you know mythtv is coded in java? ;) |
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| [18:57:35] | speedsix: | lol I'm trying to learn C, coming from Java! :/ |
| [18:57:57] | speedsix: | learning a new (old) language |
| [18:58:52] | janneg: | Zider: I thought it were some 30 line of perl |
| [18:59:09] | psofa: | ewww perl xD |
| [18:59:18] | Kelerion: | I must have been completely wrong then.. .I thought it was a Visual Basic app! |
| [18:59:23] | Kelerion: | shows what I know :) |
| [18:59:39] | psofa: | its pascal you fcking noobs |
| [18:59:58] | janneg: | psofa: he reported problems with this channel in the eitscanner earlier |
| [19:00:01] | Juski: | and here's me thinking it ran on a BBC Model 'B' emulator so that teletext would work |
| [19:00:12] | psofa: | janneg, ah lol srry :) |
| [19:00:28] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [19:00:33] | Zider: | janneg: perl and javascript ;) |
| [19:01:50] | janneg: | I might port mythtv to brainfuck :) |
| [19:02:38] | psofa: | brainfuck? is that an oo language? |
| [19:03:05] | Zider: | he means windows :P |
| [19:03:08] | Beirdo: | janneg, have fun with that |
| [19:03:18] | Beirdo: | brainfuck IS a programming language too :) |
| [19:03:52] | Zider: | oh |
| [19:03:53] | Zider: | :D |
| [19:03:58] | Beirdo: | and porting mythtv to said language would prove to be a real brainfuck |
| [19:04:18] | Zider: | synaptic intercourse |
| [19:05:13] | joem236: | http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf/ |
| [19:05:37] | joem236: | for those of u interested in brainfuck :) |
| [19:05:39] | dev: | wow, i just had mythbackend crash for the first time |
| [19:05:44] | dev: | in a year |
| [19:05:51] | dev: | hope that doesnt happen again hehe |
| [19:05:58] | gardengnome: | dev: i hope you had it running under gdb. |
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| [19:06:03] | gardengnome: | :> |
| [19:06:08] | dev: | i didnt have any debugging on |
| [19:06:09] | ** kayelem goes quietly insane trying to get a Hauppauge A415-HPG remote to work... ** | |
| [19:06:14] | dev: | its never crashed before |
| [19:06:29] | GreyFoxx: | janneg: I've already wiped it, dtv_multiplex and all. gonna start it fresh |
| [19:07:05] | kayelem: | I thinbk it's time to shove a currently-spare Nova-T card in the crash&burn box up here for further investigation |
| [19:07:50] | kayelem: | I've managed to make a difference, now none of the buttons work instead of only 5 or so... |
| [19:08:30] | kayelem: | I'm wondering if the best solution is to buy an IR keyboard and give up on the damn remote |
| [19:08:43] | kayelem: | ...but I'm stubborn... |
| [19:09:22] | Zider: | I think I'm gonna finish building my IR receiver.. |
| [19:09:27] | speedsix: | kayelem, I have the same remote |
| [19:09:27] | Juski: | ahh yes now I need to c0nf1gor@t3 my window manager.. or sometink |
| [19:09:45] | Beirdo: | !trout Juski |
| [19:09:45] | ** MythLogBot slaps Juski with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [19:09:57] | Juski: | ouch |
| [19:09:58] | Zider: | using cardboard to keep the components in place ;) |
| [19:10:01] | kormoc: | Mornin' Beirdo |
| [19:10:02] | Beirdo: | splat |
| [19:10:06] | Beirdo: | morning? |
| [19:10:10] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:10:13] | kormoc: | Sure! |
| [19:10:14] | Beirdo: | g'day :) |
| [19:10:14] | ** nero wonders how to setup software mixing for alsa.. argh.. ** | |
| [19:10:18] | kormoc: | It's mornin' somewhere |
| [19:10:23] | Beirdo: | hawaii |
| [19:10:23] | kayelem: | speedsix, got any of it to work? |
| [19:10:29] | kormoc: | nero, lookup dmix |
| [19:10:37] | nero: | dmix.. cool.. thanks kormoc |
| [19:10:45] | speedsix: | yeah it works, what problems are you having? |
| [19:10:48] | nero: | sick of only being able to get sound from one app at a time. |
| [19:10:49] | Juski: | morning, has broken. I haven't got access to gdb so it'll have to stay that way |
| [19:11:01] | kayelem: | speedsix, I have up/down/left/right/OK working and that's it. Or was until I broke it completely |
| [19:11:02] | nero: | btw: |
| [19:11:09] | ** nero is the user formerly known as _nero_ ;) ** | |
| [19:11:25] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [19:11:35] | nero: | hehe.. shocking I know.. ;) |
| [19:11:43] | Beirdo: | 28 more minutes of downloading breezy -> dapper updates to go |
| [19:11:45] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [19:11:46] | speedsix: | kayelem, so they're all that do anything when you run irw? |
| [19:12:02] | kayelem: | speedsix: cat /dev/input/event2 shows stuff happening on every button. irw shows nothing |
| [19:12:12] | speedsix: | do you want my config files? |
| [19:12:46] | kayelem: | speedsix, that might help... |
| [19:13:13] | Juski: | typical. there's a gentoo wiki page for every wm apart from lwm |
| [19:13:25] | speedsix: | just /etc/lirc/lircd.conf isn't it? Email or slap it on pastebin? |
| [19:13:45] | kayelem: | speedsix, I'm not even sure now if my /etc/lirc/hardware.conf is right now. |
| [19:13:58] | speedsix: | ok I'll send you both |
| [19:14:20] | speedsix: | how do you want me to send 'em? |
| [19:14:23] | kayelem: | speedsix, slap 'em on pastebin works for me |
| [19:14:28] | speedsix: | np hang on |
| [19:14:48] | Juski: | yikes I'm gonna have to stop telling people to use google from now on. it sucks for finding real stuff lately |
| [19:14:58] | Juski: | lvm != lwm |
| [19:15:32] | speedsix: | kayelem, http://pastebin.com/707136 hardware.conf |
| [19:16:43] | speedsix: | kayelem, http://pastebin.com/707139 lircd.conf |
| [19:17:10] | speedsix: | Juski, are you on svn trunk still? |
| [19:17:25] | kayelem: | speedsix, ta :) |
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| [19:17:33] | GeM: | 21:17:22 up 260 days, 21:24, 4 users, load average: 0.11, 0.31, 0.20 |
| [19:17:40] | Juski: | speedsix: not for a couple of weeks now |
| [19:17:40] | GeM: | I love my mythbackend :) |
| [19:17:46] | speedsix: | kayelem, np let me know if it works |
| [19:18:02] | ** Juski remembers there's theme patching to do :-/ ** | |
| [19:18:04] | speedsix: | Juski, you use uk_tv_grab_rt doodad right? |
| [19:18:13] | Juski: | yup |
| [19:18:29] | speedsix: | if you click search->movies in mythweb does it work? |
| [19:19:00] | Juski: | speedsix: yeah |
| [19:19:34] | speedsix: | Juski, latest svn mythweb seems to have lost the ability to pick out movies from the RT data :/ |
| [19:19:57] | speedsix: | I saw a setting for it somewhere in the mythweb config, keyword or sumink. Can't find it now |
| [19:20:01] | Juski: | speedsix: maybe try upgrading xmltv from their cvs |
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| [19:20:23] | kayelem: | speedsix, ok, just restarted lircd and frontend, now off downstairs to see if anything works, biab... |
| [19:20:33] | Juski: | I read something about new xmltv features being brought in.. maybe stuff got lost in the new features |
| [19:21:11] | speedsix: | I'm pretty sure it's a just a mythweb setting so it knows what's a movie and what's not |
| [19:21:22] | speedsix: | that or I've broken it |
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| [19:21:54] | Juski: | can't remember ever seeing a thing in mythweb to edit categories |
| [19:22:05] | speedsix: | I thought it was in .htaccess |
| [19:22:26] | Juski: | unless it just looks for movies over a certain star rating by default, and you've got $ky Movies :-P |
| [19:22:37] | speedsix: | LOL |
| [19:22:57] | Juski: | you'd need to find the 0.5 star or less setting ;-) |
| [19:23:10] | speedsix: | gotcha ;) |
| [19:23:19] | Juski: | aha! The Scorpion King is on tonight |
| [19:23:26] | speedsix: | How do I delete a dir WITHOUT following symlinks |
| [19:23:53] | speedsix: | note to others, do not attempt to delete a mytweb dir which has symlinks to all your music/recordings |
| [19:24:04] | Juski: | nice manpage for lwm btw :-/ |
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| [19:25:13] | speedsix: | my backend is still generating loads of useless .nuv files. |
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| [19:26:33] | MrGandalf: | Sell them at a yard sale. |
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| [19:34:32] | kormoc: | Juski, what do you need to know about lwm? |
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| [19:37:52] | speedsix: | anyone seen xris recently, need to prod him about this mythweb prob |
| [19:37:56] | Juski: | kormoc: it's okay for now... got another thing to battle with. I screwed up the locales I thought I'd need |
| [19:38:14] | bluey-: | anyone knows where to get the lastfm patch for mythmusic? |
| [19:38:24] | Juski: | stuff works but I get complaints of 'unable to load any usable ISOxxxx font" |
| [19:39:05] | Dr_Jones: | hi, i'm having a small problem, literally. i changed my gui size in the appearance setting, and now if i set it back to 0 the tv playback stays in a small window. (the tickbox below is unticked). is there a settings file I can reset manually? was working full screen before |
| [19:41:45] | janneg: | GreyFoxx: ok. I will fix the bug that the eitscanner is stopped after a failed tuning |
| [19:42:03] | Dr_Jones: | have looked through the mailing list archive, not sure what to search for (gui?), but cant find anything. please help – it's making the brazil players very very small :( |
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| [19:43:44] | kayelem: | speedsix, you have sucessfully stopped me going completely mad... remote now works; I had to tweak the .lircrc a bit but irw shows *all* the buttons work at last. Cheers :) |
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| [19:45:02] | Dibblah_: | For anyone that's interested... I got a frontend to suspend to RAM, and wake from the remote with no hardware hacking! |
| [19:46:02] | Dibblah_: | Just a bit of a shame I'm netbooting and the network card is somewhat unstable after the resume :(( |
| [19:46:02] | kormoc: | nifty |
| [19:46:16] | kormoc: | Dibblah_, should add it to the wiki |
| [19:46:45] | Dibblah_: | All you need is a MCE-USB, a recent kernel and some luck with your motherboard. |
| [19:46:55] | kayelem: | speedsix, thanks to you I won't have to get off the sofa to press "Esc" any more... all-night vegging in front of telly without moving is now a reality... excellent ;-D |
| [19:49:31] | ** Juski must've missed a bit of the install instructions or summat ** | |
| [19:53:28] | Beirdo: | fecking rain woke me up! |
| [19:55:20] | gardengnome: | oooh. poor beirdo. :/ |
| [19:55:24] | gardengnome: | the heat is killing me here |
| [19:55:34] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:55:50] | Beirdo: | you get heat in Germany? :) |
| [19:56:23] | Dr_Jones: | anyone? |
| [19:56:26] | gardengnome: | yeah. bucket of roses, two bottles of sparkling wine and some nice movies is all we need |
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| [19:57:11] | Juski: | lol. that'll be it. I have no fonts installed |
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| [19:57:27] | Juski: | !trout Juski |
| [19:57:27] | ** MythLogBot slaps Juski with a trout on behalf of Juski... ** | |
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| [20:00:31] | Beirdo: | oooh |
| [20:00:38] | Beirdo: | flash flood warning in effect |
| [20:01:15] | nero: | Beirdo, she didn't warn you about that whole hurricane thing?? ;) |
| [20:01:26] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
| [20:01:35] | Beirdo: | but there's no tropical storm here now |
| [20:01:41] | Beirdo: | it's just a "tropical wave" |
| [20:01:57] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [20:01:59] | nero: | that be one thing we dont have to worry about in NJ.. |
| [20:02:14] | Juski: | how the fuck did I end up with X installed & no font packages? |
| [20:02:17] | nero: | but, I'd take hurricanes and storms over cancer and sickness just about any day.. ;) |
| [20:02:28] | Beirdo: | amen |
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| [20:02:50] | nero: | oh.. and a class 5 hurricane has nothing on a really ticked off new england driver.. |
| [20:03:28] | Beirdo: | heh, tell that to Florida |
| [20:03:39] | Beirdo: | they are getting hit by a tropical storm right now |
| [20:03:42] | Beirdo: | first of the season |
| [20:03:52] | nero: | yup.. so I have heard.. no fun at all. |
| [20:04:06] | Beirdo: | move the HELL out of Florida already, people |
| [20:04:29] | Beirdo: | this will be year 3 of shit-kickings |
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| [20:05:04] | nero: | yeah.. its been pretty rough the last couple years. |
| [20:05:27] | Beirdo: | Nova Scotia and Newfoundland will get it too |
| [20:05:39] | Beirdo: | and it seems to be predicted to go right by Jersey |
| [20:05:58] | Beirdo: | so expect rain tomorrow evening :) |
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| [20:21:30] | Aid`: | how pathedic is a ultra66? |
| [20:21:54] | Zider: | depends what you're using the drive for ;) |
| [20:22:06] | Aid`: | i just thought i would xfer my favorite tv shows to it |
| [20:22:20] | Aid`: | i dont htink it is fast enough to run whilst recording? |
| [20:22:29] | Aid`: | anyways brb |
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| [20:27:26] | Juski: | gardengnome: you might be interested to know that these binary drivers have a 720x576 mode ;-) |
| [20:27:41] | nero: | Yay.. my wife just got into the NYC marathon.. woohoo! |
| [20:28:39] | gardengnome: | Juski: that's excellent. does it mix well with interlaced video? |
| [20:29:11] | Juski: | just trying it now |
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| [20:29:43] | gardengnome: | Juski: i had to use the bedroom frontend today so i had to replaced my s100 install with a backup i'd created before i started to mess with things. i really need to make my gentoo work with both boxen ;) |
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| [20:30:27] | Juski: | turned off deinterlacing.... |
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| [20:30:48] | Juski: | nah still need to deinterlace |
| [20:31:04] | gardengnome: | fsck. is this 720x576 mode an interlaced one? |
| [20:31:26] | Juski: | it looks okay on most things |
| [20:31:47] | gardengnome: | well, on most things.. |
| [20:32:19] | Juski: | I could try turning up the Focus' flicker filter |
| [20:32:46] | gardengnome: | isn't that not much more than just a (ugly) workaround? |
| [20:32:54] | Juski: | hahaha.. an episode of Dr Who used sfx out of Doom ! |
| [20:33:33] | Juski: | even so, playback of 720x576 mpeg2 takes only about 50% cpu using kernel deinterlace |
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| [20:34:55] | gardengnome: | Juski: could you try bob? i wonder if it'll be bouncy. |
| [20:35:22] | Juski: | lemme just have a look at the driver docs again.. rtfm'ing paid off big style last time |
| [20:35:36] | gardengnome: | hehe |
| [20:37:00] | Juski: | ahh the modelines are built into the driver, but you can put your own in with that EDID thingy |
| [20:37:00] | xris: | Juski: damn you and your non-delayed viewing of dr who |
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| [20:37:25] | Aid`: | i just installed an ultra-66 what device is it usually under? /dev/hdc? |
| [20:37:45] | Juski: | actually I hope ID Software were on the payroll for that episode – they nicked more than just the SFX by the look of it |
| [20:37:54] | Zider: | depends on which ide channel it's connected to |
| [20:37:54] | kormoc: | Aid`, depends where you installed it on the computer |
| [20:37:58] | Zider: | and if it's master/slave |
| [20:38:09] | Zider: | udma66 has nothing to do with it |
| [20:38:11] | kormoc: | Aid`, and really, this isn't ment to be a generic linux help channel, that is what #linux is for :) |
| [20:38:22] | xris: | Juski: which one? |
| [20:38:28] | Aid`: | ya its set for master |
| [20:38:36] | Aid`: | should i set it to slave |
| [20:38:48] | Zider: | Aid`: master on which channel? primary or secondary? |
| [20:39:07] | Zider: | Aid`: dmesg should mention which drives you have connected |
| [20:39:24] | Aid`: | well when i do mount /dev/hdd <path> i can feel the hd clicking but the jumper might be set wrong |
| [20:39:26] | Zider: | or cat /proc/partitions |
| [20:39:28] | Juski: | xris: The Satan Pit :-) |
| [20:41:30] | Juski: | mmmkay... now I resolved the font issue... next thing to do is..... is.... erm... |
| [20:41:57] | Juski: | make a new partition & copy the whole of /dev/hda3 to it :-) |
| [20:42:18] | Dibblah_: | Juski: They shouldn't have killed her off like that. |
| [20:42:23] | Juski: | (but not while mounted).. god I'm my own worst enemy |
| [20:42:52] | Juski: | Dibblah_: you mean _he_ shouldn't have killed her off like that.. sheesh |
| [20:43:02] | Juski: | they're supposed to be best mates & all that |
| [20:43:09] | Dibblah_: | Oh. Some people haven't seen it yet. Apologies! |
| [20:43:29] | Zider: | I haven't even seen the series :P |
| [20:44:18] | gardengnome: | neither have i. is it worth it? i hear it's somehow related to douglas adams |
| [20:44:41] | Juski: | it has its moments |
| [20:45:05] | Juski: | more than in previous series IMHO |
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| [20:45:49] | Aid1: | there it is mounted |
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| [20:46:04] | Juski: | hey I just realised something. I set a new gentoo record for myself today.. quickest install ever.. < 12 hours |
| [20:46:13] | Juski: | on a 733mhz cpu, too :-) |
| [20:47:04] | gardengnome: | did you really re-install? |
| [20:47:20] | Juski: | I kinda _had_ to |
| [20:47:27] | Aid1: | wow hdd controller cards are sweet |
| [20:48:11] | gardengnome: | Juski: no backups? ;) |
| [20:48:44] | Zider: | backups are for WIMPS! wait, I hear a strange noise from my hard drives.. :P |
| [20:48:44] | Juski: | gardengnome: I had all of /dev/hda3 backed up to a USB drive, which proved to be pointless because the USB-IDE bridge is a PoS |
| [20:49:01] | gardengnome: | Juski: that's shitty. |
| [20:49:15] | Juski: | this is bugging me.. showdown now seems to be hung at "saving random seed" |
| [20:49:23] | ** Dibblah_ quietly checks his backups... ;) ** | |
| [20:50:03] | Dibblah_: | (Dirvish, Dirvish ra ra ra)... ;) |
| [20:50:28] | Dibblah_: | Hmmm. That sounded better in my head. |
| [20:51:50] | Juski: | still sitting there... |
| [20:53:02] | Aid1: | so would an Ultra66 be fast eenough to record tv onto from mythtv? |
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| [20:53:47] | Juski: | Aid1: should be |
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| [20:54:00] | Juski: | depends on the individual disk though |
| [20:54:20] | Aid1: | i took this from a computer that had no hd plug slots on the mobo |
| [20:54:27] | Aid1: | this was the only way it could have a hd |
| [20:54:58] | Juski: | bleh. 'poweroff' works better than 'shutdown' |
| [20:55:28] | Aid1: | but i found an extra spare 80GIG Hd laying around... how lucky was that |
| [20:55:54] | kormoc: | Juski, doesn't poweroff just point to shutdown? |
| [20:56:10] | speedsix: | kayelem, no problem dude :-D |
| [20:56:46] | Aid1: | but now i have a huge problem i can't mount the extra hard drive... theres no spot |
| [20:56:52] | gardengnome: | speedsix: 'dudette' ;) |
| [20:58:42] | Aid1: | how can i view my temperature inside my computer from linux? |
| [20:59:10] | gardengnome: | Aid1: mbmon, lm-sensors. |
| [20:59:53] | Aid1: | is it also important to get ntp? |
| [21:00:18] | gardengnome: | this is not a general linux channel |
| [21:00:19] | Beirdo: | if you want the time accurate, yes |
| [21:00:56] | Aid1: | ntp = important to mythtv to record shows correctly |
| [21:01:23] | Beirdo: | then why were you asking if you knew the answer/ |
| [21:01:33] | speedsix: | lol ok then, dudette :) |
| [21:01:36] | Aid1: | just seeing what else everyone else is doing |
| [21:01:43] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [21:01:50] | Beirdo: | I run ntpd on all my machines |
| [21:02:14] | speedsix: | Can someone explain how mythfilldatabase can actually ADD a load of channels to the database?? |
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| [21:02:51] | speedsix: | Friend had a dozen or so channels in his database, ran mythfilldatabase and it filled the database with masses of channels?? |
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| [21:06:37] | Aid1: | the only thing i can think of is the zap2it channels differed |
| [21:06:47] | Aid1: | make sure zap2it doesn't have the shit load of channels |
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| [21:12:08] | Mattwj2005: | so what do you guys think of the pcHDTV 5500? |
| [21:13:55] | Mattwj2005: | I so badly want to dump some HDTV! :) |
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| [21:14:27] | speedsix: | Aid1, this is with the uk RT grabber |
| [21:15:01] | speedsix: | I don't understand how mythfill can actually write tables to the db. odd |
| [21:15:12] | speedsix: | channels sorry, not tables |
| [21:16:32] | RaYmAn-Bx: | it adds whatever channels are configured if they don't already exist..(this can cause some problems if the db saves the name differently from what is actually inserted :S) |
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| [21:19:25] | speedsix: | I asked him if he was pointing the the wrong .xmltv config, he said he wasn't but I can't think of any other answer |
| [21:20:45] | Mattwj2005: | does the HD-5500 have the same issue as the hd-3000 that recording HDTV is a lot harder than playing it? |
| [21:21:04] | Mattwj2005: | I mean playing it is a lot harder than recording it |
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| [21:22:32] | speedsix: | Does anyone know how mythweb streaming works? I click each recording and get "An unknown module was specified" |
| [21:23:03] | xris: | speedsix: you using windows? |
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| [21:23:14] | xris: | oh, wait, unknown module... sounds like you have URL problem |
| [21:23:17] | xris: | problems |
| [21:23:27] | xris: | (and mythweb doesn't stream, it just sends) |
| [21:23:31] | Mattwj2005: | hd-5500 does have hard decoding does it? |
| [21:23:37] | Mattwj2005: | *doesn't |
| [21:23:44] | xris: | Mattwj2005: would assume not |
| [21:23:46] | speedsix: | no, firefox in ubuntu |
| [21:23:54] | Mattwj2005: | okay thanks xris |
| [21:24:03] | xris: | speedsix: paste the url (not the error) you get for one of the recordings |
| [21:24:17] | speedsix: | http://10.0.0.4/mythweb/pl/stream/1014/1150232400 |
| [21:25:19] | xris: | using svn, then? |
| [21:25:21] | speedsix: | this is svn trunk btw |
| [21:25:26] | speedsix: | yeah ;) |
| [21:25:49] | Mattwj2005: | speexsix that is a private IP address by the way ;) |
| [21:26:32] | Mattwj2005: | aka people on the Internet don't have easy access to it |
| [21:26:42] | xris: | speedsix: you may need to update the .htaccess file? |
| [21:27:36] | speedsix: | xris, ok, what am I looking for exactly? |
| [21:29:40] | sphery: | xris: I was thinking about making a page for managing "Previously Recorded" (oldrecorded entries) in MythWeb and was wondering if you had any preferences for how it should work. |
| [21:30:33] | sphery: | I was thinking something like the Recorded Programs page, but using checkboxes to remove items from the list. |
| [21:33:17] | Aid1: | is 45 degrees bad for a cpu? |
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| [21:36:10] | kormoc: | Aid1, depends on the scale |
| [21:36:23] | Aid1: | well i dont know which scale it is, how do i tell |
| [21:36:37] | kormoc: | 45 kelvin would be rather bad, as it would just shatter |
| [21:36:59] | Aid1: | mbmon displays in celcius i am thinking? |
| [21:37:00] | sphery: | but Kelvin wouldn't be degrees... |
| [21:37:01] | sphery: | :) |
| [21:37:17] | kormoc: | sphery, picky ;P |
| [21:37:44] | sphery: | lol |
| [21:37:49] | kormoc: | Aid1, likely it's in celcius, and that's about normal for a cpu |
| [21:38:13] | Aid1: | i should worry if its over 60 eh? |
| [21:38:26] | scopeuk: | there cpu is in danger at 100c |
| [21:38:32] | scopeuk: | 60 is a high but not dangerous |
| [21:38:56] | kormoc: | well |
| [21:38:56] | Aid1: | i have my cover off too though :/ |
| [21:39:04] | xris: | scopeuk: 60 is normal for my cpu. heh |
| [21:39:04] | kormoc: | most cpus are in danger at 90 to 100 |
| [21:39:16] | kormoc: | a few go to 120 fine, but that's very few |
| [21:39:19] | speedsix: | does anyone know how I delete a dir without following symlinks? |
| [21:39:29] | xris: | speedsix: just remove .htaccess and svn up |
| [21:39:38] | xris: | (sorry, distracted briefly by paying work) |
| [21:39:52] | xris: | speedsix: rm doesn't generally follow symlinks |
| [21:39:55] | speedsix: | xris, do an svn update? |
| [21:40:00] | speedsix: | oh right thanks alot |
| [21:40:02] | xris: | speedsix: yeah. that should recreate .htaccess |
| [21:40:27] | Aid1: | okay i just wanted to make sure when i added a 3rd hd i had the power cool enough |
| [21:41:37] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [21:42:18] | kormoc: | power... cool... cpu temp... |
| [21:42:24] | ** kormoc ponders how they fit together ** | |
| [21:42:54] | xris: | speedsix: if that doesn't work, we'll have to look for smething else. |
| [21:43:17] | speedsix: | Just trying it |
| [21:44:43] | sphery: | xris: Any suggestions for the look & feel of a "Previously Recorded" page for MythWeb? (Managing my 4246 shows in the frontend is a pain.) |
| [21:45:13] | sphery: | Basically wanting something to remove shows from oldrecorded more easily than through the frontend. |
| [21:46:51] | Aid1: | wow sphery, how many gigs of space do u have |
| [21:47:00] | sphery: | that's oldrecorded... |
| [21:47:06] | sphery: | Lot of deleted shows... |
| [21:47:12] | speedsix: | xris that works a charm, excellent thanks! |
| [21:47:50] | sphery: | I want an easy way to remove shows so they will re-record even with duplicate matching on. |
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| [21:50:12] | xris: | speedsix: cool |
| [21:50:48] | speedsix: | xris, is there anyway to stream with mythweb? |
| [21:51:08] | xris: | speedsix: not with svn. |
| [21:51:15] | xris: | mythstreamtv sort of works with .19 |
| [21:51:32] | speedsix: | right ok np |
| [21:51:49] | xris: | the new perl thingie I added in svn will actually send you all of the data (gets around the 2G filesize limit in apache/php) but won't transcode |
| [21:51:59] | xris: | waiting for mythexport before I do any real streaming support |
| [21:52:05] | speedsix: | xris, second question ;) My searches>movies doesn't work anymore |
| [21:52:14] | xris: | errors? |
| [21:52:22] | speedsix: | I looked at the canned searches config file and it seemed correct |
| [21:52:27] | speedsix: | no, just 0 results |
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| [21:52:49] | sphery: | speedsix: you using DataDirect only? |
| [21:52:51] | speedsix: | I use the uk radio times grabber |
| [21:52:53] | sphery: | Or EIT, too? |
| [21:52:55] | sphery: | Oh. |
| [21:52:59] | sphery: | Did it work before? |
| [21:53:17] | Aid1: | what's the best way to hook up the computer to the tv? |
| [21:53:18] | speedsix: | Yeah, not tired it for a while. 0.19 fixes maybe |
| [21:53:40] | sphery: | I thought some grabbers didn't provide all the information used for some of those queries, so I wasn't sure. |
| [21:53:50] | sphery: | Aid1: depends on the TV. |
| [21:54:06] | sphery: | If you can, using DVI/VGA is easiest and gives a great result. |
| [21:54:32] | sphery: | If it's standard-def, S-Video is preferred over component, which is preferred over RF-modulated |
| [21:54:41] | speedsix: | category_type does = movie in my data so not sure what's wrong |
| [21:54:49] | Aid1: | yeah its reg def.. |
| [21:54:56] | Aid1: | but i dont have any svideo out port |
| [21:55:06] | sphery: | component out? |
| [21:55:16] | Aid1: | just monitor plug :/ |
| [21:55:29] | Zider: | don't you mean composite out? |
| [21:55:31] | speedsix: | vga is best on my set, tried dvi-hdmi and it didn't support the screen's native res :( |
| [21:55:52] | sphery: | I'd recommend getting a video card with TV out. |
| [21:56:01] | Aid1: | svideo? |
| [21:56:03] | Zider: | no, svideo out :P |
| [21:56:06] | sphery: | NVIDIA GF4MX440 or GF5200 would be good. |
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| [21:56:36] | Zider: | there's no point in having tv out if you can use composite or svideo |
| [21:56:58] | sphery: | composite and s-video are tv out |
| [21:56:58] | Beirdo: | svideo IS tv-out |
| [21:57:05] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:57:18] | Aid1: | my sister's computer has a svideo out |
| [21:57:20] | Zider: | tv is antenna cable, svideo is video |
| [21:57:32] | Beirdo: | Zider, tv-out means composite or svideo |
| [21:57:54] | kormoc: | Zider, technically, you might be right, but in here, tv-out means composite/svideo/component |
| [21:57:54] | Beirdo: | any "TV-out" cards you will find for a PC will use one or both |
| [21:57:55] | sphery: | TV out means NTSC- or PAL-compatible TV signal. |
| [21:58:11] | Zider: | kormoc: ofcourse I'm right :P |
| [21:58:22] | Beirdo: | I haven't heard of any PC cards that spit out RF-modulated TV signals |
| [21:58:28] | Aid1: | i was hoping something like the plug that i put my monitor into i could have an adapter that hooks up to the tv |
| [21:58:51] | Beirdo: | but lots spit out the baseband signals |
| [21:59:05] | kormoc: | Zider, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV-out |
| [21:59:07] | Beirdo: | anyways, I gotta go make dinner |
| [21:59:13] | Aid1: | watching tv on the computer can get tiresome |
| [21:59:36] | sphery: | Aid1: you can get VGA-NTSC or VGA-PAL converters, but the ones at reasonable prices are unreasonably poor quality. |
| [21:59:40] | ** Beirdo is a house-husband for now ** | |
| [22:00:02] | Aid1: | ya i may find one that has a svideo |
| [22:00:05] | Zider: | I have seen some tv cards with whatever it's called (opposite of a tv tuner) on them.. they might be a minority but they do exist.. and that's TV out as opposed to VIDEO out imo.. |
| [22:00:23] | kormoc: | according to wikipedia, that would be a av-out |
| [22:00:31] | kormoc: | "It is different from AV-out in that it only offers video and no audio." |
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| [22:00:55] | kormoc: | Zider, and can you link me to one of those cards? |
| [22:01:00] | dev: | wow i just saw the soc2006 goals |
| [22:01:15] | dev: | excellent |
| [22:01:57] | Zider: | kormoc: I could if I dug around a bit.. been a while since I saw one.. |
| [22:02:11] | sphery: | Aid1: Look for threads by Cory Papenfuss about VGA-(NTSC|PAL) converters |
| [22:02:16] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/117286#117286 |
| [22:02:19] | sphery: | Is a start |
| [22:02:43] | sphery: | He gives a lot of good info on why you either have to build your own from components or spend a bunch. |
| [22:03:16] | sphery: | (Although, you can get the reference board for the AD724 for about $107 or so...) |
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| [22:11:34] | xris: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
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| [22:14:07] | speedsix: | anyone heard anything about an IM client in myth? I know windows media centre has such a feature |
| [22:14:40] | xris: | Aid1: what kind of video card do you have? |
| [22:14:54] | xris: | speedsix: seems, well, overkill. |
| [22:15:29] | jjazz: | What's the difference between the PVR-150 and the PVR-250? It's unclear from the Hauppage website. Thanks. |
| [22:15:40] | speedsix: | xris, in what way? I want to be able to watch tv while my buddies are bugging me about their computers ;) |
| [22:15:44] | xris: | jjazz: 250 is older and more expensive |
| [22:15:45] | sphery: | speedsix: Could always install Gaim and the Gaim OSD plugin... ( http://gaimosd.sourceforge.net/ ) |
| [22:15:48] | Aid1: | xris: nvidia geforce 2 |
| [22:15:59] | jjazz: | And here I thought it was newer. Thanks. |
| [22:15:59] | xris: | Aid1: ahh. really old. |
| [22:16:02] | speedsix: | sphery, I'll have a look cheers |
| [22:16:05] | Aid1: | well it works |
| [22:16:13] | Aid1: | its not like i play games or anything |
| [22:16:20] | xris: | Aid1: except for the lack of tv out |
| [22:16:27] | jjazz: | Also: is there any reason to prefer USB over PCI? |
| [22:16:29] | sphery: | Aid1: good excuse to buy a GF4MX440 or GF5200... ;) |
| [22:16:33] | Aid1: | yeah i have a card somewhere around here that has one |
| [22:16:56] | xris: | jjazz: pci is more supported? |
| [22:17:12] | jjazz: | xris: Good to know. Thanks. |
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| [22:17:24] | Aid1: | well im not the richest guy |
| [22:17:35] | Aid1: | so i am trying to make due with wut i got, and so far so good |
| [22:18:43] | WAR_CH|LD: | is there any indication when 0.19.1 will be offically rlsd? |
| [22:18:57] | dev: | i have a pretty dumb question and im sorry.. but i cant find a quick answer and i know you guys can just paste yours... i still have mythfilldatabase running out of cron at 9:38am every morning.. id like to do the suggested run when zap2it wants me to.. whats the cron entry for that? heh |
| [22:18:58] | kormoc: | well, might want to get a new keyboard, it's replacing 'ha' with u. |
| [22:19:14] | kormoc: | dev, there is no cron entry for that |
| [22:19:26] | kormoc: | dev, mythbackend will run it automatically when it's time, no cron entry at all |
| [22:19:34] | dev: | really? wow |
| [22:19:47] | dev: | i thought i saw some mention of something eeded in cron |
| [22:19:50] | xris: | dev: it's configured in the frontend. has been since like .17 |
| [22:19:56] | xris: | maybe .18 |
| [22:20:06] | sphery: | dev: Automatically run mythfilldatabase and Run mythfilldatabase at time suggested by the grabber. |
| [22:20:09] | dev: | i saw something in .18 about it but ive used cron since .16 |
| [22:20:11] | sphery: | in the frontend settings |
| [22:20:23] | dev: | ahhhh |
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| [22:20:36] | dev: | thanks, im sorry, that was a pretty stupid question heh |
| [22:21:06] | sphery: | WAR_CH|LD: don't know about 0.19.1 |
| [22:21:11] | sphery: | What distro are you using? |
| [22:21:14] | speedsix: | Does anyone use gnome and can you log out while mythfrontend is running? |
| [22:21:17] | sphery: | Does your packager use 0.19-fixes? |
| [22:21:37] | speedsix: | I get a message saying 'Your session has been saved' and it won;t logout until I quit myth |
| [22:21:43] | WAR_CH|LD: | no, i've heard mention of "fixes" but I cna not find a place to download |
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| [22:21:53] | sphery: | speedsix: WHat do you have for "Confirm Exit" in frontend settings/ |
| [22:22:05] | speedsix: | sphery, let me look |
| [22:22:09] | sphery: | WAR_CH|LD: what distro? |
| [22:22:13] | WAR_CH|LD: | suse |
| [22:22:15] | xris: | WAR_CH|LD: http://svn.mythtv.org/ |
| [22:22:37] | xris: | WAR_CH|LD: or if you use packages, most packagers are already incorporatng the changes into the package releases. |
| [22:22:40] | sphery: | speedsix: It's in General settings |
| [22:23:02] | speedsix: | sphery, confirm exit is checked |
| [22:23:20] | speedsix: | myth jumps to the exit confirmation when I try to logout of gnome |
| [22:23:21] | WAR_CH|LD: | ah, ok. nice nice |
| [22:23:30] | speedsix: | it's very odd |
| [22:24:06] | speedsix: | let me try now, brb |
| [22:24:12] | sphery: | speedsix: disable confirm exit |
| [22:24:20] | sphery: | As mentioned on the list... |
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| [22:25:09] | sphery: | (OK, I never explicitly said to disable it – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/208641#208641 — I guess I shouldn't have assumed.) |
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| [22:26:21] | speedsix: | sphery, the first logout now exits myth and the second click logouts |
| [22:26:37] | sphery: | WAR_CH|LD: it looks like the SuSE RPM's may be 0.19, not 0.19-fixes |
| [22:26:41] | sphery: | So, you may have to build. |
| [22:26:58] | sphery: | speedsix: second click of what? |
| [22:27:05] | speedsix: | logout |
| [22:27:24] | Zider: | is there any way to get the svn of mythtv from a specific date? |
| [22:27:49] | xris: | Zider: svn help |
| [22:27:56] | sphery: | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| [22:28:17] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, I would just build anyway |
| [22:28:30] | WAR_CH|LD: | I dont like distro packages, they make decisions for me. :) |
| [22:28:53] | WAR_CH|LD: | I wasn't even aware there where suse packages. lol |
| [22:28:53] | speedsix: | ubuntu dapper is still on 0.18?? |
| [22:29:04] | sphery: | speedsix: it sounds like GNOME is canceling the logout because mythfronend hasn't finished shutting down. |
| [22:29:09] | xris: | WAR_CH|LD: well, then svn and .19-fixes branch are your new friends. :) |
| [22:29:22] | sphery: | I don't know GNOME at all, so I don't know if it's possible to change the timeout |
| [22:29:22] | speedsix: | sphery, yeah. Is that a bug? |
| [22:29:35] | sphery: | All I can say is it's not a bug in Myth... |
| [22:29:37] | sphery: | ;) |
| [22:29:38] | WAR_CH|LD: | xris: yeah, cools. but if I use that, and it "updates" does that mean I need to compile again? or does it update compiled files, etc. |
| [22:29:42] | sphery: | Maybe in GNOME |
| [22:29:47] | speedsix: | right ok :) |
| [22:29:55] | Zider: | so I take it nobody knows HOW to do it.. great.. |
| [22:29:57] | xris: | WAR_CH|LD: just the source |
| [22:30:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | xris: not sure how it works, and the webpage is timing out |
| [22:30:09] | WAR_CH|LD: | ah, ok. cools |
| [22:30:24] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, so yes, you will need to recompile |
| [22:30:28] | sphery: | Zider: I think people just wanted you to do your own fishing... |
| [22:30:35] | sphery: | Teach a man to fish... and all |
| [22:30:35] | speedsix: | why would ubuntu bring out their new release using myth 0.18? Odd |
| [22:30:36] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, I gathered from the comment "just the source" |
| [22:30:39] | WAR_CH|LD: | thanks guys. ;) |
| [22:30:45] | xris: | WAR_CH|LD: svn is like cvs.. you check out the source, compile it, etc. |
| [22:30:57] | xris: | I'd recommend installing ccache, too, since it'll make recompiles go a lot faster |
| [22:31:06] | Zider: | sphery: dig thru 300 tons of books and manuals to MAYBE get a yes/no answer? |
| [22:31:14] | WAR_CH|LD: | k |
| [22:31:48] | speedsix: | right I'm off chaps, thanks for all your help, keep up the good work with mythweb xris :) later |
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| [22:32:42] | kormoc: | Zider, sure, figure out the revision number for the date you want and check out that revision |
| [22:32:55] | sphery: | OK, the answer to the question you asked is, "Yes." |
| [22:33:08] | sphery: | kormoc: don't even have to do that |
| [22:33:11] | sphery: | svn help co |
| [22:34:07] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff |
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| [22:36:41] | Zider: | crap, mythstream doesn't compile anyway.. :( |
| [22:36:49] | dscoular: | Hee, hee finally got dvb-t livetv streaming over adsl: vlc -vv dvb-t:adapter=1:frequency=219500000:inversion=2:bandwidth=7:code-rate-hp=3:code- rate-lp=1:modulation=64:transmission=8:guard=16:hierarchy=-1:budget-mode=1 --program=1569 --sout '#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,acodec=mpga,vb=140,width=320,height=240,ab=48}:standard{ access=http,mux=ogg,url=localhost:8081}' -I ncurses then use ProxyPass to make apache forward an arbitrary |
| [22:36:50] | dscoular: | url to the localhost 8081 port |
| [22:38:06] | dscoular: | Had to search through the source to find all the constants to value mappings... if only vlc would document a bit better! |
| [22:38:16] | sphery: | dscoular: what kind of bitrate are you using? |
| [22:38:50] | kormoc: | looks like 140 kbps or so |
| [22:39:01] | sphery: | was wondering if that's what vb was for... |
| [22:39:06] | dscoular: | Yep, but the beauty is you can play with it |
| [22:39:09] | sphery: | How's it look at that bitrate? |
| [22:39:12] | riksta: | dscoular, would you like to document that all somewhere? |
| [22:39:18] | kormoc: | wiki! |
| [22:39:33] | riksta: | kormoc, yeah but maybe not appropriate for the mythtv one |
| [22:39:52] | kormoc: | http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| [22:39:54] | dscoular: | Sure I'll give it a whirl... wherever you decide it should be |
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| [22:39:57] | sphery: | I was considering setting that up for a friend, but didn't think it would be worth it because of the bitrate limitations... |
| [22:40:17] | dscoular: | It's only a 320x240 window... |
| [22:41:05] | dscoular: | you can play around with all the parameters and see whether you can get a useful feed. I'm just happy I figured out the hideous command-line. |
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| [22:41:58] | Zider: | has anyone tried to compile mythstream 0.17? |
| [22:41:59] | sphery: | Maybe I'll set it up just to try it. |
| [22:42:12] | dscoular: | I'd prefer to see the documentation more closely associated with myth. Everyone knows that vlc doco is impossible to follow so I doubt they'd bother trawling through the vlc wiki. There's a high noise to signal ratio IMHO. |
| [22:42:13] | sphery: | I guess assuming it doesn't look good is a cop-out. |
| [22:42:25] | sphery: | Zider: You mean MythStream 0.16_5? |
| [22:42:31] | sphery: | Or are you talking about MythStreamTV? |
| [22:42:31] | Zider: | sphery: no, 0.17 |
| [22:42:38] | sphery: | Then you're not talking about MythStream. |
| [22:42:39] | sphery: | :) |
| [22:42:48] | Zider: | sphery: yes I am.. latest version :) |
| [22:42:54] | Zider: | sphery: released 2006 june 08 |
| [22:42:58] | sphery: | Wow. |
| [22:43:06] | sphery: | I didn't think there would ever be another release... ;) |
| [22:43:15] | Zider: | lots of fixes.. but I'm having problems with compiling it :( |
| [22:43:19] | sphery: | Thanks for the info... |
| [22:43:21] | Zider: | hence the svn fiddling :P |
| [22:43:23] | sphery: | I'll have to check it out. |
| [22:43:42] | sphery: | Actually, I think I'll do that now. |
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| [22:43:51] | sphery: | MythWeb module sounds interesting. |
| [22:44:02] | riksta: | mythweb is the bollocks |
| [22:44:48] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [22:44:49] | ** xris will be so glad when he can supercede mythstreamtv with something else. ** | |
| [22:44:57] | ** dscoular goes off to work ** | |
| [22:45:18] | kormoc: | I'm amused cause sphery's line seems like mythweb is something new. |
| [22:45:51] | riksta: | yeah hehe |
| [22:46:03] | sphery: | no MythStream access via MythWeb is new |
| [22:46:24] | riksta: | oh really |
| [22:46:32] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [22:46:47] | sphery: | And it's MythStream ('net radio), not MythStreamTV that has the module now. |
| [22:47:48] | sphery: | So, it doesn't duplicate the work xris is doing on moving the MythStreamTV functionality into MythWeb |
| [22:47:49] | jjazz: | Are there any online retailers that carry the wireless Media MVP? I know I can get it on the Hauppauge site, but usually online retailers are cheaper. |
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| [22:49:47] | xris: | jjazz: froogle is your friend |
| [22:50:13] | jjazz: | xris: froogle search for mediaMVP wireless only shows 2 hits, neither of them the wireless version. |
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| [22:50:57] | Zider: | off to tv now.. DAMN it's hot here! |
| [22:51:24] | Zider: | 27c indoors, 20c outdoors.. at 1 in the night! |
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| [22:52:03] | xris: | jjazz: then you probably know your answer |
| [22:52:44] | jjazz: | xris: Apparently the all-seeing eye of froogle has missed nothing. |
| [22:53:08] | xris: | jjazz: well, you *could* try searching other sites. |
| [22:53:46] | jjazz: | xris: Yep. I have looked at a few. Was hoping somebody here had additional leads. |
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| [23:23:04] | Juski: | oops. I only went & bought another s100 box :) |
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| [23:29:18] | Kelerion: | how you getting on with them? you got everything working on them? |
| [23:30:35] | Juski: | Kelerion: everything except wireless & dri |
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| [23:30:47] | Kelerion: | excellent |
| [23:30:52] | Kelerion: | hows it perform? |
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| [23:32:03] | Juski: | 50% cpu usage playing back dvb mpeg2 in mythtv. less in xine |
| [23:32:16] | Juski: | pretty nippy too despite having so little ram |
| [23:34:24] | Kelerion: | must be alright if you went and got yourself another |
| [23:35:04] | Juski: | have to pay for it first... money xfer.. pleh |
| [23:35:41] | Kelerion: | who is it that makes them? |
| [23:36:35] | Juski: | t-online branded |
| [23:36:54] | Juski: | made by someone else I can't remember the name of |
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| [23:37:43] | Kelerion: | nice looking boxed.. you got the lcd working? |
| [23:37:46] | Juski: | mac id comes out as "Handan Broad InfoC" |
| [23:37:52] | Juski: | what lcd? |
| [23:38:09] | Juski: | it's a backlit plastic panel |
| [23:38:18] | Kelerion: | ahh okies |
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| [23:39:42] | Aid`: | i hate new hds |
| [23:40:48] | Juski: | damn I've never done int'l cash xfer before.. dunno where to start |
| [23:41:23] | Kelerion: | http://www.westernunion.com/info/howToSendMoneyTransfer.asp |
| [23:41:51] | Aid`: | is there any better partition tool then cfdisk |
| [23:41:51] | ** kormoc loves harddrives ** | |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | there is the standard fdisk |
| [23:42:33] | Aid`: | im pissed because i can't get my 80gb hd to mount |
| [23:42:36] | Juski: | Kelerion: has to be a bank xfer |
| [23:42:44] | Kelerion: | http://www.westernunion.com/info/osMoneyTransfer.asp |
| [23:42:51] | Kelerion: | oh |
| [23:43:02] | Kelerion: | from your bank directly? you can't use a credit card? |
| [23:44:07] | xris: | Aid`: fdisk won't help you mount an existing partition |
| [23:44:19] | Juski: | Kelerion: I didn't check if the seller took paypal or not |
| [23:44:32] | Aid`: | xris: i know |
| [23:44:35] | Kelerion: | WU do a directly to Bank service.. second link |
| [23:44:46] | Juski: | expensive though |
| [23:44:52] | Aid`: | im trying to get the FS to change to extended but it wont let me |
| [23:44:52] | Kelerion: | dunno |
| [23:45:01] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow ** | |
| [23:45:06] | kormoc: | extended? |
| [23:45:18] | Aid`: | or whatever ext3 standsfor |
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| [23:45:30] | xris: | Aid`: that would be "linux" |
| [23:45:34] | kormoc: | well, that's just the filesystem, you need to set the partition type to linux |
| [23:45:47] | kormoc: | and you'll need to delete the current one and create a new one |
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| [23:45:56] | Aid`: | ive done that 1000 times |
| [23:46:04] | kormoc: | and it says? |
| [23:46:06] | xris: | Aid`: and then did you format it? |
| [23:46:17] | Aid`: | format? |
| [23:46:21] | Kelerion: | use qtparted |
| [23:46:21] | Aid`: | lol oops |
| [23:46:39] | kormoc: | mke2fs -j -O dir_index /dev/hdX# |
| [23:47:05] | Aid`: | dir_index should be? |
| [23:47:21] | xris: | Aid`: it turns on directory index mode |
| [23:47:45] | Kelerion: | that like a journal? |
| [23:47:51] | xris: | no, it's like a cache |
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| [23:47:55] | Kelerion: | ahh ok |
| [23:47:57] | Aid`: | okay i thought you might have to specify a directory (dont ask) |
| [23:47:59] | ** Kelerion was guessing ** | |
| [23:48:13] | timmower: | anyone know how to mount an xfs partition so a user can write to it, rather than just root? |
| [23:48:31] | kormoc: | Kelerion, it speeds up file lookups in directorys with lots of files (/bin, /usr/bin, etc) |
| [23:48:33] | xris: | timmower: mount it and then chmod? |
| [23:48:35] | kormoc: | very handy |
| [23:48:55] | kormoc: | mount it as a user? |
| [23:48:55] | Kelerion: | oh.. neat idea.. specially on / |
| [23:48:59] | timmower: | so how do you automount it? just a script to chmod in rc.local or similar |
| [23:49:11] | xris: | timmower: /etc/fstab is usually how it's done |
| [23:49:14] | timmower: | i mean on system start |
| [23:49:23] | kormoc: | fstab |
| [23:49:27] | timmower: | xris: yep, but you can't set the uid from there... |
| [23:49:32] | xris: | timmower: xfs is a linux filesystem.. it's completely aware of linux permissions |
| [23:49:32] | kormoc: | sure you can |
| [23:49:43] | xris: | but yes, you can also set the uid in fstab |
| [23:49:48] | xris: | you don't have to with xfs, though |
| [23:50:36] | timmower: | ok i think i see, so mount it, chown the mountpoint, and forget? |
| [23:50:43] | Kelerion: | how come I always feel outta my depth when these two are here?? lol |
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| [23:50:57] | kormoc: | timmower, usually, chmod will stick |
| [23:51:07] | xris: | timmower: pretty much |
| [23:51:07] | Kelerion: | I usually learn something new though |
| [23:51:10] | timmower: | hmmm think I have had a fundamental misunderstanding of linux for a while... sorry everyone |
| [23:51:19] | sfullenwider: | does the Geforce 6800 and the dvr150 work well together? |
| [23:51:21] | xris: | Kelerion: I learn new things from kormoc all the time. |
| [23:51:34] | xris: | I have to fight to keep him away from the proddev dept because they want to steal him. |
| [23:51:44] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [23:51:44] | Aid`: | ok cool |
| [23:51:48] | Aid`: | thanks guys :)O |
| [23:51:53] | xris: | sfullenwider: sure. 6800 is even quite a bit overkill |
| [23:51:59] | kormoc: | heh, well, I learn lots from xris as well, we're just experenced in different areas :) |
| [23:52:06] | xris: | kormoc: exactly |
| [23:52:09] | Aid`: | thanks for answering non mythtv questions |
| [23:52:32] | Kelerion: | file system caching *could* be considered myth related |
| [23:52:40] | Juski: | oh fuck. this is gonna add another £10 to the price, easily |
| [23:52:42] | Aid`: | of course it could be :P |
| [23:52:42] | sfullenwider: | well my ATI card has successfully ticked me off and demands detonation, afterwhich I'll need a new card. 6800 has identical features |
| [23:52:53] | xris: | sfullenwider: is this just for mythtv? |
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| [23:53:13] | sfullenwider: | well I intend to do some heavy video editing as well |
| [23:53:32] | xris: | as long as you're not using it for windows and 3d gaming, save $100 and get a 6200 |
| [23:54:05] | Kelerion: | I've given up on my ATI cards.. am ordering a new dual head nvidia in the next couple of days |
| [23:54:18] | kormoc: | the 6200 is great for myth |
| [23:54:30] | Aid`: | whats a dangerous temp for a hd? |
| [23:54:30] | Kelerion: | I think I've totally about 2 solid weeks trying to get triple-head to work.. and it just isn't happening |
| [23:54:53] | Kelerion: | the 6200 is what I have in my myth in the livingroom... great card |
| [23:54:55] | kormoc: | Aid`, depends on the drive, you might want to just check the manifacturer's website and see what they say |
| [23:55:03] | Aid`: | ok |
| [23:55:04] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ooh? |
| [23:55:12] | kormoc: | Kelerion, how were you attempting it? |
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| [23:56:05] | Kelerion: | I have an ATI mobo.. with onboard xpress 200.. and a dualhead x700 pro.. and 3 lcd's... the drivers just refuse to drive all heads.. but I think it's a bios problem |
| [23:56:16] | sfullenwider: | which one is the best pvr150? |
| [23:56:34] | kormoc: | ahh, interesting |
| [23:56:42] | Kelerion: | but it works in windows |
| [23:56:47] | kormoc: | sfullenwider, they are about the same |
| [23:56:54] | kormoc: | Kelerion, did you enable the int10 module? |
| [23:56:55] | sfullenwider: | MCE or no MCE? what is MCE? |
| [23:57:00] | Kelerion: | with and without |
| [23:57:07] | Kelerion: | tried tons of combos |
| [23:57:12] | kormoc: | MCE editions don't come with a remote, but come with a radio tuner |
| [23:57:23] | kormoc: | none MCE come with a remote and no radio tuner |
| [23:57:31] | kormoc: | MCE is Windows Media Center Edition |
| [23:57:39] | kormoc: | Kelerion, intersting, have any logs laying about? |
| [23:57:39] | sfullenwider: | ah, so MCE removes something useful and adds something useless. |
| [23:57:51] | kormoc: | Well |
| [23:57:54] | xris: | sfullenwider: mce version also uses rca style audio connector for input instead of headphone jack |
| [23:57:56] | kormoc: | when you buy MCE you get a remote with it |
| [23:58:01] | sfullenwider: | and the first letter stands for microsoft. oh how can I contain the shock. |
| [23:58:15] | kormoc: | so it's more not giving you two of something and replacing it with something |
| [23:58:15] | xris: | kormoc: MCE has no W in it |
| [23:58:23] | xris: | "media center edition" |
| [23:58:29] | kormoc: | ooh, oop |
| [23:58:30] | kormoc: | s |
| [23:58:31] | xris: | sfullenwider: mce version is also $30 or so cheaper than the retail version |
| [23:58:49] | xris: | and comes in a low profile version (for $20 less than retail) |
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