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| [00:00:10] | Kazriko: | no, but the commercial flagging seems to be somewhat lacking and tends to skip parts of the show occasionally. |
| [00:00:18] | Kazriko: | I manually skip them with the 30s forward button. |
| [00:00:31] | Freman: | mine is 45s fast forward button (c: |
| [00:00:31] | iresprite: | ooh. the commercial skip debate. |
| [00:00:32] | dev: | Kazriko: do you have it set to "all" methods and strict detection enabled? |
| [00:00:40] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [00:00:43] | Kazriko: | No, still using the defaults on that. |
| [00:00:46] | dev: | i believe thats still not default. |
| [00:01:01] | dev: | even so. commercial flagging is only about 90% accurate, here in the usa |
| [00:01:25] | dev: | ive heard people from other countries have verying levels of accuracy |
| [00:01:26] | Kazriko: | actually, it is all/strict. |
| [00:01:55] | Kazriko: | The other part is my tv is really staticy with all the splits and cheap cables. I'm trying to rearrange my devices to make that better though. |
| [00:02:13] | dev: | that could mess up commflagging, yeah. |
| [00:02:20] | Freman: | wonder if I can take the pile of 1 gig p3's that work has and put openmosix on them and make em a backend |
| [00:02:20] | Kazriko: | the pvr150's are on the end of a 4-way split from the cable company, then a 2-way split between them and my cable modem, then a 4 way split to the 3 tv cards. |
| [00:02:30] | dev: | hah wow |
| [00:02:36] | dev: | thats *alot* of signal loss. |
| [00:02:49] | Kazriko: | I'm trying to move the cable modem over with the cable company's digital box on the 2-way split. |
| [00:03:03] | iresprite: | hey, anyone know why I'd be seeing this in my log while running xine? |
| [00:03:11] | iresprite: | gnome-screensaver-Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Unable to determine the address of the message bus |
| [00:03:18] | iresprite: | I'm definitely not running gnome. |
| [00:03:35] | Juski: | sorted. edited the lirc init script to load the module |
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| [00:04:13] | Kazriko: | Also need to replace the 3 cables going to the tv cards, they're all pieces i had laying around the house. |
| [00:04:26] | gardengnome: | iresprite: maybe xine is trying to turn off you screensaver. just a wild guess, though |
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| [00:06:08] | iresprite: | hm. hadn't considered that. Doesn't appear when I'm running it gnome-- but then, that would make sense. |
| [00:06:37] | iresprite: | I wonder if I can make it stop... |
| [00:08:22] | iresprite: | gardengnome: thanks! |
| [00:13:21] | Juski: | almost done for the night |
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| [00:17:47] | psofa: | ive got a problem with my listings.I instert them manually from a valid custom xmltv compatible file which is written in utf8.But myth will display ????? instead of the guide |
| [00:17:55] | psofa: | clearly an encoding problem |
| [00:18:33] | Juski: | I have a db permissions issue... |
| [00:18:33] | psofa: | the header looks like that <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF8"?> |
| [00:18:33] | psofa: | <!DOCTYPE tv SYSTEM "xmltv.dtd"> |
| [00:19:15] | gardengnome: | Juski: gee. rtfm! ;))) 'sup? |
| [00:19:20] | psofa: | also when updating the database from the xml file again.It says replacing old ??????? with the <nicely shown program name> |
| [00:20:27] | Juski: | sorted! |
| [00:20:48] | psofa: | any ideas :) |
| [00:20:58] | Juski: | webmin saved me having to look it up in the FM :-) |
| [00:21:01] | psofa: | spend all day learning bash to write my damn grabber <cry> |
| [00:21:05] | Juski: | psofa: no idea |
| [00:23:17] | Juski: | backing up the xbox... |
| [00:24:25] | gardengnome: | psofa: maybe mythfilldatabase doesn't honor the encoding flag? UTSL :) |
| [00:24:40] | psofa: | gardengnome, UTSL? |
| [00:24:46] | gardengnome: | psofa: use the source, luke! |
| [00:24:54] | psofa: | oh crap! |
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| [00:25:14] | Eureka: | why am I getting this? could not open /dev/video0 to probe its inputs for mythtv-setup?snd_bt87x 15912 0 |
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| [00:26:17] | iresprite: | Eureka: does /dev/video0 exist? |
| [00:26:23] | Eureka: | yes |
| [00:26:25] | Eureka: | it's there |
| [00:26:33] | Eureka: | iresprite, I"m using gentoo |
| [00:26:39] | iresprite: | what are the permissions on it? |
| [00:26:52] | Eureka: | root as owner, grp is video |
| [00:27:17] | Eureka: | iresprite, crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 Feb 8 18:14 video0 |
| [00:27:42] | psofa: | removing existing program: star.gr ??????? 2006-06–08T04:00:00 – 2006-06–08T06:00:00 |
| [00:27:42] | psofa: | inserting new program : star.gr ΠΑÎΙΚΟ&I circ;£ Thu Jun 8 04:00:00 2006 – Thu Jun 8 06:00:00 2006 |
| [00:27:55] | psofa: | but still it displays crap in the schedule view |
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| [00:28:13] | ** Juski lights up ** | |
| [00:28:31] | kleptophobiac: | i'm glad my entrance does that to you juski |
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| [00:29:28] | iresprite: | eureka, what happens if you just do cat /dev/video0 |
| [00:29:38] | kleptophobiac: | you get lots of garbled text |
| [00:29:46] | Eureka: | iresprite, cat: /dev/video0: No such device or address |
| [00:29:53] | iresprite: | huh. |
| [00:29:59] | Eureka: | iresprite, am I missing drivers for v4l and the card? |
| [00:29:59] | iresprite: | that's a bad sign. |
| [00:30:05] | iresprite: | Yeah, sounds like it. |
| [00:30:10] | kleptophobiac: | check dmesg |
| [00:30:23] | kleptophobiac: | dmesg | less |
| [00:30:25] | kleptophobiac: | look for signs of your card |
| [00:30:25] | dev: | irespite: what user are you running mythbackend as? |
| [00:30:40] | iresprite: | dev: mythtv |
| [00:30:48] | dev: | iresprite: is that user in the video group? |
| [00:30:54] | iresprite: | dev: yep. |
| [00:31:27] | dev: | oh, no /dev/video0 |
| [00:31:37] | dev: | thats not a perms problem! :0 |
| [00:31:39] | dev: | :) |
| [00:32:00] | iresprite: | heh. not my problem! Eureka's. |
| [00:32:00] | psofa: | anyone who uses xmltv listings in a non iso-blabla-1 enviroment? |
| [00:32:14] | Eureka: | i will be back and bug you, thanks |
| [00:32:17] | dev: | oh man im all messed up |
| [00:32:20] | ** dev backs into the corner ** | |
| [00:32:24] | iresprite: | Heh. I was helping Eureka. |
| [00:32:24] | psofa: | anyone who uses xmltv listings in a non iso-8955–1 enviroment? |
| [00:32:24] | dev: | nevermind me! |
| [00:32:28] | iresprite: | No worries! |
| [00:32:31] | Samoied: | the pinnacle 100e is supported by mythtv? |
| [00:32:38] | iresprite: | 'course you can help me if you have clue about mythburn. |
| [00:33:03] | dev: | i dont use it, sorry |
| [00:33:35] | Samoied: | and PIP is supported? |
| [00:33:46] | Agrajag-: | Samoied: yeah |
| [00:34:00] | iresprite: | Heh. Oh well. I'm having a heck of a time with it... I know they have mytharchive out for svn, but I'm afraid to upgrade from my ubuntu packages. |
| [00:34:06] | Samoied: | Agrajag-: is possible to use PIP, with this device? |
| [00:34:30] | Agrajag-: | Samoied: well you need 2 tuners if you want to watch 2 different thiings |
| [00:34:49] | Agrajag-: | Samoied: no idea about that device though |
| [00:35:01] | iresprite: | Anyone here use mytharchive? |
| [00:35:02] | Samoied: | Agrajag-: have any device that supports PIP? |
| [00:35:34] | hadees: | anyone using a niveus remote? |
| [00:35:40] | Agrajag-: | Samoied: you're confused – the device itself isn't what supports it – the software is – as long as you have 2 tuners, you can do PIP |
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| [00:37:38] | Samoied: | Agrajag-: but dont have a device that supports 2 tuners? |
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| [00:39:45] | psofa: | anyone using utf8 encoding for his xmltv listings? |
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| [00:49:38] | octavious: | Samoied: the Hauppage PVR-500 has two tuners |
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| [00:52:02] | Agrajag-: | Samoied: either that or just 2 separate tuners |
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| [01:11:46] | psofa: | what charset does myth use to write to the mysql db? |
| [01:14:05] | octavious: | latin1 or something, iirc. check the mc.sql file, i think its in there |
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| [01:18:20] | psofa: | octavious, wouldnt that mean i cant store non english unicode characters in the values? |
| [01:19:42] | psofa: | damn fuck it im going to bed |
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| [01:24:03] | butterfly_: | anyone know howto get remote workin when trying to burn dvds? |
| [01:24:13] | butterfly_: | I think it used to be MythBurn? |
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| [02:18:18] | taer: | Was thinking of getting a shuttle for a new frontend. Should I buy a nvidia agp card for svideo, or look into VGA->svideo converters? |
| [02:19:11] | ** braniff thinks nvidia card would be cheaper/better ** | |
| [02:20:37] | taer: | thx |
| [02:22:20] | diamon: | Yeah, I went with an NVidia card and just used the svideo-out on that. Nice, clean signal here. |
| [02:22:53] | ** braniff 's $30 nvidia card is just peachy for tv output... ** | |
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| [02:23:54] | braniff: | can search the mythtv-users list to cut-and-paste an xorg.conf if you use nvidia |
| [02:24:02] | taer: | we have a ISD surplus store here.. 40$ for a P3 |
| [02:24:15] | taer: | I'm guessing its loud though |
| [02:24:29] | taer: | braniff: Yeha, have a front/backend now |
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| [02:24:53] | taer: | but no onboard video, so I'd have to get a new video for it when I demote him to pure backend |
| [02:25:24] | braniff: | i wonder if an iPod frontend is possible... |
| [02:25:43] | taer: | heh.. $25 bucks for the 450 |
| [02:25:56] | taer: | the other comes w/ monitor, printer keyboard |
| [02:26:03] | braniff: | oh wait, they don't have net connectivity |
| [02:26:32] | taer: | USB |
| [02:26:33] | taer: | ? |
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| [02:26:49] | braniff: | i don't think so |
| [02:27:03] | taer: | that would be cool. esp w/ one of those vdeo ipods |
| [02:27:14] | braniff: | yeah, that's what i was thinking |
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| [02:30:50] | Eureka: | anyone here, how come I can't scan channels in the mythtv-setup, it gave me nothing |
| [02:30:57] | Eureka: | i'm in a process of setting it up |
| [02:32:51] | bilbravo: | i'm gonna reformat a partition for my media |
| [02:32:58] | bilbravo: | what filesystem should i use? reisferfs? |
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| [02:56:40] | ** braniff uses xfs ** | |
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| [02:58:44] | Anonycat: | I'm getting an error while trying to watch TV. My database turns out to be empty, and I got an error running mythfilldatabase. Looking into the error, it looks like it can be solved by populating an "xmltv file" for my TV card. How do I do that? |
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| [03:06:35] | Anonycat: | It should be possible to st least watch TV without a schedule, so what could be wrong? |
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| [03:16:56] | braniff: | i bet that running mythtvsetup and then mythfilldatabase would allow you to watch tv |
| [03:18:38] | Goose-BA: | "NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 seconds" i get this error looping when i try to watch live tv? |
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| [03:25:54] | Anonycat: | "bash: mythtvsetup: command not found" |
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| [03:39:48] | hadees: | anyone using an rf remote with lirc? |
| [03:39:53] | hadees: | what is the speed like |
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| [03:44:38] | hevnsnt: | hey guys anyone alive |
| [03:47:56] | hadees: | no |
| [03:48:36] | hevnsnt: | ok |
| [03:50:10] | hevnsnt: | Is the PVR-250 still the turner that most people suggest |
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| [03:55:00] | Kelerion: | it's what I have.. but most people are suggesting the 150 now.. which is the 250's replacement |
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| [03:55:42] | hevnsnt: | ah ok, even better |
| [03:55:48] | hevnsnt: | you can get the 150s for 60 |
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| [04:22:35] | achew22: | xris: is it you who likes really bad sci fi movies? |
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| [04:27:01] | k-man_: | is there any issues in upgrading mysql to 5.0 with mythtv? |
| [04:27:04] | k-man_: | 0.19 |
| [04:27:48] | achew22: | k-man I had issues |
| [04:27:50] | achew22: | but I think they patched it |
| [04:27:58] | k-man_: | oh |
| [04:27:59] | k-man_: | ok |
| [04:28:09] | achew22: | if you have issues please send a ticket |
| [04:28:26] | achew22: | it was because of a new reserved word. if it doesn't work, I'll tell you how to fix it |
| [04:28:39] | k-man_: | oh |
| [04:28:39] | Kazriko: | I ran into that problem. I downgraded to mysql 4.0 |
| [04:28:40] | k-man_: | no |
| [04:28:47] | k-man_: | i was just holding off upgrading to mysql5 |
| [04:29:00] | k-man_: | i was wondering if its safe to upgrade yet |
| [04:29:16] | k-man_: | as i want to play with a few music management apps and they want mysql5 |
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| [04:35:49] | Agrajag-: | k-man: im using mysql 5 and had no problems. im using the 0.19-fixes branch |
| [04:35:58] | Cardoe: | anyone have a stable HEAD build #? |
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| [04:55:24] | k-man_: | Agrajag-, thanks |
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| [05:35:21] | metalac: | hey guys how can i figure out what's wrong when I get snow? |
| [05:35:25] | metalac: | i have a pvr-150 |
| [05:35:29] | metalac: | and all i get is snow |
| [05:35:45] | Kelerion: | probably wrong input |
| [05:36:09] | metalac: | well i picked Tuner |
| [05:36:16] | metalac: | that's the only one that make sense |
| [05:36:31] | metalac: | there is a composite 1 and 2 also, but it's not those |
| [05:37:13] | scottj: | are there any prebuilt mythtv solutions? ~ how much does it cost to build a basic system? There's no way to add a capture card to a mac mini is there? |
| [05:37:14] | Kelerion: | as far as I know snow means one of two things.. wrong input.. or it selected the tuner type |
| [05:37:35] | Kelerion: | open mplayer with the input.. and try typing "ivtvctl -p0" |
| [05:37:46] | Kelerion: | then change the 0 for 1,2,3 etc.. see if you get anything |
| [05:37:59] | metalac: | scottj: might be able to get a USB tuner, not sure how well it works with linux |
| [05:38:48] | metalac: | Kelerion: how do i open mplayer with input? |
| [05:38:58] | Kelerion: | mplayer /dev/videoX |
| [05:39:30] | Kelerion: | then in a console do the ivtvctl thing |
| [05:39:46] | metalac: | hmm it froze |
| [05:40:33] | scottj: | is the basic advantage of mythtv over tivo that it can skip commercials automatically? |
| [05:40:58] | Kelerion: | never used a tivo |
| [05:41:09] | Kelerion: | but mythtv probably has a *ton* of advantages |
| [05:41:48] | metalac: | Kelerion: ok i looked at mythbackend log and it says: "Starting up as the master server. is defined but isn't attached to a cardinput." |
| [05:42:12] | Kelerion: | well you didn't attach is then I'd imagine :) |
| [05:42:25] | metalac: | what does that mean? |
| [05:42:59] | metalac: | dammmnnn |
| [05:43:10] | metalac: | dmesg is full of "tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set" |
| [05:43:35] | Kelerion: | you have defined your video sources.. and capture cards.. right? |
| [05:43:47] | metalac: | yes i have |
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| [05:43:57] | metalac: | in mythtv-setup |
| [05:44:06] | Kelerion: | and then the fourth step is Input Connections.. you did that? |
| [05:45:03] | metalac: | yep |
| [05:45:23] | Kelerion: | thats what it means by attaching |
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| [05:46:16] | metalac: | but why do i ge these tuner type not set errors? |
| [05:46:42] | Kelerion: | and that error in dmesg probably means you don't have a "type=" option on your modprobe entry for that card |
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| [05:48:31] | metalac: | any clue how to find out what type is? |
| [05:48:36] | metalac: | i did ivtv-detect |
| [05:49:34] | Kelerion: | if it's a new tuner in the 150.. you could try "options ivtv tuner=50" |
| [05:49:55] | metalac: | well i have 57 now |
| [05:50:11] | Kelerion: | but if that doesn't work check out the ivtv site.. they have a list |
| [05:50:57] | Kelerion: | I know 50 has been found to work a lot in 150's.. but I don't have a 150 so not the best help.. |
| [05:51:45] | metalac: | ok will try |
| [05:51:54] | Kelerion: | whats dmesg saying your tuner model is? |
| [05:52:55] | metalac: | not sure what exactly you need it says it's WinTV PVR 150 Card |
| [05:53:19] | Kelerion: | post the ivtv part of your log into a pastebin |
| [05:53:33] | metalac: | might be a bit hard it's on another machine |
| [05:53:56] | Kelerion: | your ssh'd in aren't you? |
| [05:54:09] | metalac: | nope |
| [05:54:10] | metalac: | i could |
| [05:54:29] | Kelerion: | the line will say something like "tveeprom 0–0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)" |
| [05:55:00] | metalac: | got it |
| [05:55:14] | metalac: | tuner model is TCL MFNM05–4 (idx 103, type 43) |
| [05:55:18] | metalac: | should i put 43 then? |
| [05:55:51] | Kelerion: | do 50 |
| [05:56:02] | metalac: | ok |
| [05:56:39] | Kelerion: | if that doesn't work then yeah.. try the 43 |
| [05:56:39] | metalac: | oh did you try to do widescreen with yours at all? |
| [05:56:57] | Kelerion: | I have widescreen on my 250 |
| [05:57:11] | metalac: | ok cool, i just wanted to make sure it works ok |
| [05:57:49] | b8zs: | Kelerion, what kernel are you using? |
| [05:58:27] | Kelerion: | 2.6.12-10–686 on myth box |
| [05:58:27] | metalac: | ok so 50 doesn't work |
| [05:58:38] | Kelerion: | still the same errors? |
| [05:58:54] | metalac: | well still got the fuzzy stuff |
| [05:59:00] | metalac: | i'll check errors in a sec |
| [05:59:06] | Kelerion: | you getting the errors? |
| [05:59:07] | Kelerion: | k |
| [06:00:19] | b8zs: | Kelerion, im using 2.6.16 and am having trouble with the ivtv install; Did you compile it from scratch? |
| [06:00:43] | Kelerion: | I install ivtv yes.. on ubuntu |
| [06:01:35] | b8zs: | Oh, did you use the binary package? |
| [06:01:48] | Kelerion: | nope.. compiled |
| [06:01:54] | Kelerion: | ivtv-0.4.4 |
| [06:03:01] | Kelerion: | damn.. it's 7am.. not been to bed yet.. am starting to feel it now |
| [06:03:05] | b8zs: | i thought you needed 0.6 for 2.6 kernels |
| [06:03:06] | ** Kelerion thinks he needs more coffee ** | |
| [06:03:11] | metalac: | ok so both 43 and 50 give me the same error |
| [06:04:12] | Kelerion: | what are you pluggin in? aerial or svideo? |
| [06:05:12] | metalac: | standard cable tv |
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| [06:08:25] | metalac: | do i need bt848 compiled in the kernel? |
| [06:08:33] | Kelerion: | metalac: I can't think of anything else.. a look at your log might be helpful.. in between the "START INIT IVTV" and "END INIT IVTV" |
| [06:08:42] | Kelerion: | nope |
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| [06:11:25] | metalac: | which log are you talking about |
| [06:11:43] | Kelerion: | the /var/log/messages |
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| [06:13:12] | metalac: | ok i'll poke around and see what's up |
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| [06:21:31] | metalac: | of to sleep |
| [06:21:35] | metalac: | thnx a lot kelerion |
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| [06:51:56] | linagee: | how do i start user jobs when shows end instead of when mythtv is completely idle? |
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| [07:33:24] | b8zs: | where in the kernel config do i setup hotplug support — which apparently is needed to load ivtv firmware> |
| [07:33:52] | b8zs: | Bus Options -> PCI hotplug support — is that the right place? |
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| [08:38:43] | FinnTux: | why my mythweb regenerates thumbnails every time I open "Recorded Programs" page? |
| [08:39:24] | nchip: | I've noticed that too |
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| [08:49:11] | b8zs: | anyone using ivtv 0.6.2 that can give me some insight on my ivtv init erros? |
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| [09:10:09] | Juski: | morning |
| [09:10:20] | stuarta: | morning |
| [09:10:20] | Merlin83b: | Hi, Juski . |
| [09:10:48] | stuarta: | everyone enjoy the sunshine over the weekend? |
| [09:11:29] | Merlin83b: | Hell yes. |
| [09:11:37] | Merlin83b: | Flew down to Kent on Saturday for fish and chips on the beach :-) |
| [09:12:03] | ** stuarta spent yesterday arvo in the pub beer garden listening to funky blues ** | |
| [09:12:11] | Merlin83b: | Sounds good. |
| [09:13:10] | stuarta: | needed the hair of the dog cure... |
| [09:14:02] | Merlin83b: | So good night out on Sat then? |
| [09:14:15] | stuarta: | had a mate over from Ireland. |
| [09:14:40] | stuarta: | dinner & copious wine, beer & JD |
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| [09:37:08] | Merlin83b: | Heh, fair enough :-) |
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| [10:08:57] | Juski: | damn impromptu meetings |
| [10:09:43] | stuarta: | Juski: you can get the recipe for what we cooked on sat from the bbc website |
| [10:10:03] | Juski: | made full use of the sunshine on saturday.. got my garden much tidier :-) |
| [10:10:30] | Juski: | stuarta: I'll make a note of it. my wife doesn't like fish though :-/ |
| [10:10:47] | stuarta: | shame. |
| [10:11:00] | ** stuarta aspires to having a garden ** | |
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| [10:13:14] | ** Juski enjoys a nice bit of swordfish from time to time ** | |
| [10:13:40] | ** stuarta drools ** | |
| [10:14:24] | Juski: | makes a change from 'well done' steaks that've been put in the same room as a candle ;-) |
| [10:15:41] | stuarta: | i like my steak still mooing |
| [10:17:31] | Juski: | last time I ate out in manchester we were sat there for like 3 hours with no food. it's getting harder to find good service |
| [10:17:50] | stuarta: | that's crap. |
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| [10:18:32] | Juski: | we got lots of free wine out of them but that wasn't the point |
| [10:19:24] | psofa: | is anyone here to tell me if mythtv can store utf-8 strings in mysql database? |
| [10:19:31] | stuarta: | i would've cracked the shits and walked out after 1.5hrs. |
| [10:19:43] | stuarta: | psofa: it does that now. |
| [10:19:50] | psofa: | im trying to use an utf-8 guide and all i see is ??? ??? |
| [10:19:56] | psofa: | stuarta, now? |
| [10:20:48] | stuarta: | yes, check the data in the DB and see if it's correct. |
| [10:21:24] | psofa: | stuarta, using the cli of mysql.The strings are ??? ??? |
| [10:21:53] | Juski: | stuarta: we were with a birthday party. apparently the service is always so bad even for a place of its repute. I wouldn't be going back, fer sure |
| [10:22:14] | stuarta: | psofa: how do you get the data into the db? |
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| [10:23:32] | psofa: | stuarta, mythfilldatabase --file ... Im using a custom grabber i did in bash.Its utf-8 .i can read it fine in a terminal. |
| [10:24:19] | psofa: | Also when reinserting the xml file myth says something like: inserting new < good looking title> old was ??? ??? |
| [10:30:44] | stuarta: | there's most likely a missing fromUtf8() on the string manipulation in mythfilldatabase |
| [10:31:50] | psofa: | oh noes! another ticket ! |
| [10:32:10] | stuarta: | have a poke around first, see what you can find. |
| [10:33:17] | psofa: | stuarta, is that the right file? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . filldata.cpp |
| [10:38:09] | psofa: | stuarta, |
| [10:38:15] | psofa: | cerr << "inserting new program : " |
| [10:38:16] | psofa: | 2305 << (*i).channel.local8Bit() << " " |
| [10:38:16] | psofa: | 2306 << (*i).title.local8Bit() << " " |
| [10:38:16] | psofa: | 2307 << (*i).start.toString() << " – " |
| [10:38:16] | psofa: | 2308 << (*i).end.toString() << endl << endl; |
| [10:38:18] | ** stuarta is looking at code ** | |
| [10:39:21] | psofa: | shouldnt it be .utf8? |
| [10:41:13] | psofa: | ah no |
| [10:41:19] | psofa: | thats for output |
| [10:41:34] | psofa: | the actuall code entering the title is query.bindValue(":TITLE", (*i).title.utf8()); |
| [10:44:04] | stuarta: | try changing in function getFirstText, line 1086 return t.data() to return t.data().fromUtf8() |
| [10:47:41] | psofa: | kk |
| [10:47:45] | psofa: | i hate recompiling |
| [10:47:49] | psofa: | :) |
| [10:48:03] | stuarta: | won't take long. it's only 1 file to compile. |
| [10:48:19] | stuarta: | ie. don't do make clean. not needed in this case. |
| [10:48:56] | b8zs: | can anyone comment on this ivtv initialization: http://tinyurl.com/jybwf |
| [10:49:00] | psofa: | stuarta, ebuild :( |
| [10:49:01] | b8zs: | some wierd erros |
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| [10:51:02] | JoyFM: | hi |
| [10:51:12] | JoyFM: | how many CPU power do i need to record Pal TV in good quality and which software is available for linux? |
| [10:54:41] | fatmatt: | JoyFM, theres some stuff on the mythtv website about cpu usage etc. |
| [10:54:53] | fatmatt: | in the FAQ as I recall |
| [10:54:54] | JoyFM: | thx |
| [10:55:27] | Juski: | recording 3 pal Tv streams – 2 from DVB-T and one from a pvr150 takes < 5% cpu on my system :-P |
| [10:55:44] | Juski: | and for linus there is mythtv, or mythtv. or even mythtv |
| [10:56:19] | gardengnome: | re |
| [10:57:58] | Juski: | wb gardengnome. you got your cables yet? |
| [10:58:05] | hashbang: | Juski: or VDR |
| [10:58:15] | gardengnome: | Juski: nope, today is a bank holiday. i'm afraid the guy hasn't even shipped them yet. |
| [10:58:47] | hashbang: | JoyFM: I heartily recommend DVB cards if you have DVB available. |
| [10:58:57] | psofa: | stuarta, how can i easily check mysql to see if its utf8 ok? |
| [10:59:25] | stuarta: | psofa: no need, the mythdb is configured by default with utf8 |
| [10:59:30] | hashbang: | JoyFM: my myth combined Frontend/Backend/Firewall/DNS/Privoxy machine is only a Celeron 1.7, but has no problems with recording two DVB-T streams simultaneously, whilst playing back a third. |
| [11:02:55] | Juski: | vdr does not exist IMHO |
| [11:03:16] | gardengnome: | vdr? ENOSUCHTHING |
| [11:03:49] | Juski: | freevo is something of a misnomer |
| [11:03:51] | psofa: | stuarta, boooo! |
| [11:03:52] | psofa: | filldata.cpp:1086: error: no matching function for call to `QString::fromUtf8()' |
| [11:03:52] | psofa: | /usr/qt/3/include/qstring.h:659: note: candidates are: static QString QString::fromUtf8(const char*, int) |
| [11:04:04] | hashbang: | http://www.cadsoft.de/vdr/ |
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| [11:04:45] | gardengnome: | psofa: fixed your grabber problems? maybe you have to use 'recode' on your .xml file. |
| [11:05:23] | psofa: | gardengnome, nope my xml file is utf8 and apparently myth's doing sth wrong |
| [11:05:26] | psofa: | recode? |
| [11:06:12] | gardengnome: | recode – Character set conversion utility |
| [11:06:18] | stuarta: | psofa: okay try return t.data().utf8() |
| [11:06:20] | gardengnome: | apt-get install recode on debian/ubuntu. |
| [11:07:02] | ** stuarta needs to go away and think about this some more... ** | |
| [11:07:21] | ** gardengnome sends stuarta to the pub. best place for deep contemplation ** | |
| [11:07:41] | psofa: | stuarta, im under the impression that you are doing function name guesswork :P |
| [11:07:46] | stuarta: | psofa: or return QString::fromUtf8(t.data()) |
| [11:08:41] | stuarta: | psofa: I used fromUtf8() before, but have only just looked up the manpage again for the specifics :) |
| [11:09:06] | ** stuarta likes gardengnomes suggestion... ** | |
| [11:09:08] | psofa: | it compiled |
| [11:09:18] | psofa: | gardengnome, its greek |
| [11:09:35] | psofa: | the only other option i have to display greek is iso-8859–7 |
| [11:10:50] | psofa: | i suppose if utf8 isnt working its doubtful that iso-8859–7 will |
| [11:11:15] | psofa: | the only real alternative is to find a script converting greek to greeklish(that is greek with latin1 chars) |
| [11:11:56] | stuarta: | i'd be surprised if mythfilldatabase didn't handle utf8 encodings properly.... |
| [11:14:16] | psofa: | stuarta, i think it messed up even more |
| [11:14:23] | stuarta: | :) |
| [11:14:29] | psofa: | removing existing program: star.gr ????????????? ????????? 2006-06–07T23:45:00 – 2006-06–08T02:00:00 |
| [11:14:29] | psofa: | inserting new program : star.gr ÃŽÃŽÂ ÃŽÃŽÃŽÃŽÃ ;ŽÃŽÃŽÃŽÂ¤ÃŽÃŽÃŽ&A circ;£ ÎÎÎÎΦÎ&Atil de;ŽÃŽÃŽÂ£ Wed Jun 7 23:45:00 2006 – Thu Jun 8 02:00:00 2006 |
| [11:14:45] | psofa: | now not even the db can read the strings |
| [11:14:54] | psofa: | before the inserting new program looked ok |
| [11:14:57] | stuarta: | go back to how it was then.... |
| [11:15:34] | psofa: | stuarta, do you want me to send you a sample xmlfile? |
| [11:16:17] | stuarta: | but another thing to try is there are .utf8() on the bind's for the insert |
| [11:16:54] | psofa: | <psofa> the actuall code entering the title is query.bindValue(":TITLE", (*i).title.utf8()); |
| [11:16:55] | stuarta: | psofa: that might be an idea. |
| [11:17:19] | stuarta: | yeah, try removing the utf8() from each. |
| [11:17:39] | stuarta: | this attacks the problem from a different angle. |
| [11:17:47] | psofa: | lol |
| [11:18:12] | gardengnome: | i've also had weird umlaut problems with tv_grab_de_tvtoday, but i couldn't really be bothered to fix it – i hate messing with charsets. now with tv_grab_de_prisma everything is ok again |
| [11:18:41] | Juski: | that's not text – it's special graphic characters from a sinclair zx81 ! |
| [11:20:30] | stuarta: | it may well be the grabber doing something funny tooo. |
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| [11:21:31] | Freman: | ok... so we were discussing how the glitches in my video were probably not file system |
| [11:22:01] | Freman: | I've just started to notice that some of these glitches are actualy skips... 2–3 second jumps in footage |
| [11:23:20] | JoyFM: | hashbang> JoyFM: I heartily recomhashbang> JoyFM: I heartily recommend DVB cards if you have DVB available.mend DVB cards if you have DVB available. <- but i have only a normal tuner card |
| [11:24:39] | Juski: | normal tuner card? you mean software encoding? |
| [11:26:03] | Juski: | mythtv works better with hardware encoding / dvb cards / atsc cards (or firewire capture) |
| [11:29:43] | psofa: | stuarta, removed the .utf8 from titles |
| [11:30:01] | psofa: | now when i merge the xml file tit will display ok in the logs |
| [11:30:18] | gardengnome: | sounds good :) |
| [11:30:41] | JoyFM: | i've a WinTV (Hauppauge) from 1998 and a Typhoon TView Card from 1998 too |
| [11:30:45] | psofa: | and uppon reinserting it will not replace the tables thinking ???? ??? is different from the correct title |
| [11:30:56] | psofa: | but still the program guide will display ???? |
| [11:30:58] | psofa: | :( |
| [11:31:36] | psofa: | stuarta, so i suppose that the frontend also does .utf8 in the strings it gets |
| [11:32:12] | psofa: | but it cant be all that wrong |
| [11:35:03] | stuarta: | if it didn't add the data then you won't know if it's correct...? |
| [11:35:25] | psofa: | stuarta, the first time it replaced the previous crap with the correct |
| [11:35:39] | psofa: | when i rerun it it didnt replace anything |
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| [11:36:27] | psofa: | before trying all that source changing , even when i imported the same file it would replace all tables saying replacing ??? with <nice title> |
| [11:36:28] | stuarta: | the first time being the unmodified run? |
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| [11:37:07] | psofa: | stuarta, i think i must give you the xml file |
| [11:37:13] | psofa: | :) |
| [11:37:49] | stuarta: | that would be an idea |
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| [11:40:45] | psofa: | stuarta, sending you a small sample |
| [11:41:28] | stuarta: | okay have it. |
| [11:41:36] | psofa: | :) |
| [11:43:45] | stuarta: | i'll look at it tonight |
| [11:47:25] | psofa: | k ill also try a xml file in iso-885907 |
| [11:47:32] | psofa: | *8859–7 |
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| [11:48:37] | psofa: | i suspect that the queries are done wrong.Its not when inserting data but when the backend tries to read it |
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| [11:49:40] | stuarta: | if you do the query by the mysql command line, that should show you what's in the db |
| [11:50:59] | psofa: | stuarta, i see ??? but some guy at #mysql told me that the cli client cant show utf8 |
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| [11:51:15] | stuarta: | try a gui client then. |
| [11:51:36] | psofa: | stuarta, havent found any that works in amd64 |
| [11:51:37] | psofa: | :) |
| [11:56:39] | Dagmar: | Are you using Slamd64? |
| [11:56:52] | Dagmar: | Oh wait, I think there's issues with ivtv on 64-bit isn't there.. |
| [11:57:09] | psofa: | Dagmar, the backend is 32bit |
| [11:57:11] | Juski: | damn. that guy asking about moving videos into the recorded programmes list is getting annoying now. one more post & the bugger will be banned |
| [11:57:21] | psofa: | my desktop is amd64 |
| [11:57:40] | psofa: | stuarta, same thing with an iso-8859–7 encoded file |
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| [12:04:42] | Samoied: | anyone know a channel about X10? ou misterhouse/plutohome? |
| [12:04:50] | Samoied: | s/ou/or/ |
| [12:05:30] | Juski: | mv plutohome /dev/null |
| [12:05:41] | Samoied: | Juski: why? |
| [12:05:54] | Juski: | plutohome have forums, which they sometimes reply to when they're not busy spamming |
| [12:06:12] | Samoied: | Juski: OK :) |
| [12:06:21] | Samoied: | Juski: but you have other sollution? |
| [12:06:32] | Juski: | for what? |
| [12:06:48] | Samoied: | Juski: For control lamps, door strikes, etc... |
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| [12:10:14] | onetwo: | Anyone got any ideas on what we need to do to get bbc hd from dvb-s free to air. I see that cvs now can some mbaff stuff in at about svn 10055, but do we need to recompile ffmpeg and it so does anyone have any idea what options we need? |
| [12:10:24] | ivor: | Samoied: yeah get some kids and tell them to do it. |
| [12:10:36] | Samoied: | ivor: :) |
| [12:10:45] | Samoied: | ivor: thanks |
| [12:10:49] | ivor: | np |
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| [12:19:41] | Freman: | Ok... |
| [12:19:50] | Freman: | Almost all my glitching is on chan 10 |
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| [12:19:56] | Freman: | and shows recorded on it |
| [12:20:01] | Freman: | interesting |
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| [12:21:33] | Freman: | but I"m still not seeing it on the live tv |
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| [12:26:23] | stuarta: | onetwo: myth includes ffmpeg libs internally.. |
| [12:26:23] | Freman: | sometimes... like now it's hidiously bad on this recording |
| [12:26:54] | Freman: | I was ripping a dvd at the same time... I wonder if that's caused it |
| [12:29:01] | stuarta: | Freman: doesn't help |
| [12:29:25] | Freman: | if the glitching goes away by the end of this recording then it's the dvd ripping |
| [12:29:33] | Freman: | if not... then I'm still looking for the cause |
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| [12:40:53] | Juski: | is it friday yet? |
| [12:41:08] | stuarta: | sadly, no. |
| [12:41:29] | RaYmAn-Bx: | if by friday you mean monday, then sure! |
| [12:41:33] | Juski: | lol |
| [12:42:17] | Juski: | I think I might try to blag a couple of days off this week. might go faster |
| [12:43:21] | Juski: | pretend I'm unemployed – drink beer all day & sit outside |
| [12:43:26] | RaYmAn-Bx: | it does tend to help..I have today off (national holiday/bank holiday) and wednesday off..Except for the job interview there :S Does help a lot. |
| [12:43:40] | onetwo: | stuarta – so are you saying that mbaff is now support or do I still need to patch – I found a patch this morning supplied by Isaac, but cannot find it now? |
| [12:43:54] | Freman: | next monday is holiday!!! |
| [12:44:39] | stuarta: | a resync with the ffmpeg tree was done around the time the MBAFF support went in. |
| [12:44:57] | stuarta: | I haven't had a chance to retest it since.... |
| [12:44:59] | Juski: | has anybody succeeded in decoding the streams at a watchable framerate yet? |
| [12:48:48] | Freman: | I don't think it's cos I was transcoding... by this point in the recording I wouldn't have been ripping or transcoding and it's still pretty bad |
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| [13:09:51] | Eureka: | I"m getting "could not connect to the master backend vers --is it running" is the IP address set for in the setup program correct", what's missing? |
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| [13:11:49] | Freman: | mythbackend? |
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| [13:13:24] | Darthy: | hi |
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| [13:14:01] | Darthy: | my frontend goes black after a while of inavtivity in the guide. what to do? |
| [13:14:34] | psofa: | Darthy, are you sure its not screensaver or dpms? |
| [13:15:49] | Dagmar: | If it comes back on when you do something, I wouldn't do anything more than turn the timer up higher |
| [13:16:00] | Dagmar: | TVs and monitors CAN suffer from image burn-in. |
| [13:16:09] | Dagmar: | They're just not as quick to do it as the older monochrome monitors |
| [13:16:37] | psofa: | Dagmar, stil when i had dpms on a lirc event wouldnt wake it up.Is that still true? |
| [13:16:45] | Dagmar: | I've no idea |
| [13:16:53] | Dagmar: | DPMS screen blanking is just so much black voodoo to me |
| [13:17:08] | Dagmar: | I'm just happy when it doesn't screw around with me, basically. |
| [13:17:49] | Dagmar: | I would rather like XScreenSaver to be able to be called during the program guide and at the main menu, but I don't know where it's getting it's hints about activity from at all |
| [13:18:17] | Dagmar: | ...or, do something useful, like, um, trigger MythWeather. |
| [13:18:25] | Dagmar: | That would almost work out as a screen blanker |
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| [13:18:44] | Dagmar: | Some of the outlines would need to be moved a bit or it would still result in some burn-in |
| [13:18:53] | Freman: | Correct, a lirc event will not wake up dpms |
| [13:19:05] | Freman: | it's looking for activity on the keyboard interrupt |
| [13:19:53] | Freman: | mythtv automaticly disables dpms when viewing footage |
| [13:19:56] | Dagmar: | Freman: It only watches 2 and 12 then? |
| [13:20:08] | Juski: | do the world a huge favour & don't leave your TV switched on all the time :-) |
| [13:20:18] | Freman: | it'll be looking for keyboard activity or mouse activity specificly |
| [13:20:34] | Dagmar: | THat would be 2 and 12 then |
| [13:20:45] | Freman: | my setup is good, if I leave it alone to long the screen goes blue, if I leave it alone longer it turns the tv off |
| [13:20:59] | Dagmar: | ...I think AT is 2. Can't remember for sure anymore. It's been so long |
| [13:21:12] | hashbang: | Freman: that'll still be on standby, though, and probably drawing 5–10W. |
| [13:21:22] | hashbang: | Freman: which I think was Juski's point. |
| [13:21:27] | Dagmar: | I've scribbled a hook into XScreenSaver for callign external programs, which is why I'd like to have it going on there |
| [13:21:42] | Juski: | well 5–10W is still better than 100W or whatever |
| [13:21:47] | Dagmar: | ...because I want it turning off the backlight on my keyboard, and maybe pestering the X10 controller to just kill the power to the TV |
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| [13:21:50] | Darthy: | psofa > in my xconfig i have "blank time", "standby time", "suspend time" and "off time" all set to 0 (zero) |
| [13:22:08] | Freman: | I'm content to drop it to standby |
| [13:22:09] | Darthy: | and i have flag "NoPm" in my xconfig |
| [13:22:49] | Freman: | that's the way we do things here, with my tv standby vs off means there's a led on the front, and it responds to the remote... off means I have to get off my butt |
| [13:22:58] | Freman: | it takes just as long to power up either way |
| [13:23:17] | Dagmar: | I have a really cheap-ass TV |
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| [13:23:46] | Juski: | we'll all pay in the long run (said the tree-hugging convert) |
| [13:23:50] | Dagmar: | ...and I am too lazy to hunt down an IR blaster so Myth can maybe turn the thing off. |
| [13:24:07] | Dagmar: | ...but I've got almost more X10 controllers than I know what to do with |
| [13:24:21] | Freman: | I'm running 4 pc's non-stop... the tree's won't notice my tv |
| [13:24:22] | Juski: | how much power does an X10 controller draw? |
| [13:24:25] | Dagmar: | Every time I'd turn around I'd be getting extras when I'd order stuff from them |
| [13:24:46] | Dagmar: | I don't know. I can't imagine it being much more than a couple of watts, if that |
| [13:24:47] | Freman: | I make up for it by not owning a heater or a aircon unit (c: |
| [13:25:09] | Freman: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-April/086534.html <- interesting post on lirc and dpms |
| [13:25:15] | Juski: | I've been thinking about using X10 to switch off devices I used to leave on standby |
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| [13:25:30] | Juski: | but I'm concerned it'll end up costing more in the long run |
| [13:25:37] | Dagmar: | I have a LOT of things which serve as lighting, but are basically toys |
| [13:25:52] | Dagmar: | About the only thing I don't have is a mathmos projector |
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| [13:26:10] | Dagmar: | I've got large glass crystals with lights under them, lava lamps, blacklights, etc |
| [13:26:13] | Freman: | I have x10 gear... it only uses a tiny amount |
| [13:26:25] | Freman: | but is it realy worth it... probably not (c: |
| [13:26:27] | Dagmar: | Some of them I converted to using indiglo panels just because I didn't like that they get hot |
| [13:26:36] | Freman: | it's good for lights, I dowbt I'd subject my tv to constant hard off's |
| [13:26:39] | Freman: | or my monitors |
| [13:26:47] | Freman: | they're the only things I've got to leave in standby |
| [13:26:54] | Darthy: | psofa > what else can i check? when the screen is black and my monitor is in powersave mode and i press a key, the mon comes back but the screens still keeps black |
| [13:28:00] | Freman: | I'd be turning dpms right off |
| [13:28:01] | Dagmar: | Freman: I have umm... zero incandescent bulbs in use. |
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| [13:28:31] | Freman: | I also, but the in socket light switches (not the dimmer ones) work great on the compact fluros |
| [13:28:32] | Dagmar: | I have a total of *one* torchiere ("bachelor lamp") which has a 40W fluorescent bulb in it. |
| [13:28:36] | Darthy: | how can i turn off dpms? |
| [13:28:38] | Dagmar: | It's the only white light in the place. |
| [13:28:55] | Freman: | nodpms |
| [13:28:58] | Freman: | I thik |
| [13:29:10] | psofa: | xset -dpms i think |
| [13:29:10] | Darthy: | i have flag "nopm" in my xconf already |
| [13:29:21] | Darthy: | do i need more? |
| [13:29:42] | Darthy: | in the bios its already disabled |
| [13:30:05] | Freman: | it's not a bios feature |
| [13:30:11] | psofa: | just type xset -dpms |
| [13:30:17] | psofa: | Freman, it can be |
| [13:30:22] | Freman: | either xset -dpms or look for dpms flags in your xorg.conf |
| [13:30:40] | Dagmar: | The thing on Slashdot awhile back where those college kids were so proud of having a "party mode" button to turn on all their toys... That was just kinda sad |
| [13:30:46] | Freman: | never in my entire life have I seen it as a bios feature... but then it goes without saying that I've never realy looked for it (c: |
| [13:30:51] | Dagmar: | If those guys knew about X10, they'd have been done in way less time. |
| [13:31:07] | psofa: | Freman, my box has it :) |
| [13:31:11] | psofa: | but only my old one |
| [13:31:12] | Dagmar: | Chicks in SF are definitely a different breed. |
| [13:31:18] | Freman: | I find my x10 remote seems to crash frequently |
| [13:31:32] | Dagmar: | I was astonished the first girl I had over was actually impressed when I went into my room, logged in at the terminal, and my room lit up like a circus on acid |
| [13:31:52] | Juski: | rotfl |
| [13:32:13] | Freman: | and I occasionaly have to unplug and plug back the receiver unit )c: |
| [13:32:27] | Freman: | x10 is overpriced here tho )c: |
| [13:32:41] | Dagmar: | Yeah, the RS-232 computer/wall-socket interface seemed a bit less than stable to me, too. |
| [13:32:59] | Dagmar: | Mainly seemed to be a matter of heat if you left the serial socket active all the time |
| [13:33:31] | Dagmar: | Once I modded things so it would not be trying to listen to X10 signals to report them to the computer, I never had it crash again |
| [13:33:41] | Dagmar: | I need to get the newer USB-controlled one |
| [13:33:52] | Darthy: | as i said.. i habe to dpms enabled in my xconf... so it itsn active i guess.. and i have already option "NoPm" in my xconf. that has something to do with disabling the powermanagement doesn it? |
| [13:34:07] | Freman: | I can get a pair of usb power boards and use a slug for the same price as 2 x10 light socket fittings |
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| [13:34:17] | Darthy: | i have no dpms enabled in my xconf. |
| [13:34:24] | psofa: | anyone knows why mythfilldatabase makes some empty channel rows when i try importing my xmltv file? |
| [13:34:42] | psofa: | i already have some channels that have the right smltvid |
| [13:34:52] | Darthy: | what could it be else.. i have a via epiam10k and miniMyth 0.19 |
| [13:34:59] | Dagmar: | Freman: Yeah, but I've got umm... 9–11 of those wall socket things and a couple of the light bulb fitting ones |
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| [13:35:38] | Dagmar: | If I had just a few things, I'd probably still be controlling them through the parallel port |
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| [13:36:48] | Freman: | I wouldn't mind getting back into it... but I still dowbt I'd use it to hard power off the tv or my monitors |
| [13:36:50] | Freman: | (c: |
| [13:37:06] | Dagmar: | My TV is a sad POS I got on special from WalMart for $100. |
| [13:37:18] | Dagmar: | If it dies, I'll go buy something that can actually properly handle it's S-Video input |
| [13:37:30] | Freman: | be cool to have it dim the lights when you start a movie (I have 2 halogen desk lamps that create a pretty cool effect on the wall when placed behind the lounge |
| [13:37:31] | Dagmar: | Mainly I still watch TV on my monitor, since it has a far clearer picture |
| [13:38:02] | Dagmar: | ...or bring the lights up when you pause the movie. Stuff like that is what I'm aiming for |
| [13:38:34] | Freman: | But it's SOOOOOOO much cheaper to use one-wire gear (c: |
| [13:39:00] | Freman: | and you can get positive feedback |
| [13:39:19] | Dagmar: | Keep yer eyes peeled for clearances. I think on average I've paid like $9 each for the wall controllers |
| [13:39:33] | Dagmar: | ...or Ebay. People are all the time selling the things on Ebay |
| [13:39:40] | Freman: | $50 a peice here... |
| [13:39:47] | Dagmar: | wow |
| [13:39:47] | Juski: | what puts me off x10 is those horrible plugin things |
| [13:39:48] | Freman: | must fit aussie sockets )c: |
| [13:39:59] | Dagmar: | That's madness. They're only like $14 full retail here |
| [13:40:16] | Freman: | You can get components to hard wire into the back of the socket Juski |
| [13:40:33] | Freman: | I know Dagmar it's insane, but there's so few importers they get to corner the market |
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| [13:41:09] | Dagmar: | If you want to be super-tidy, you can just buy wall sockets and wall switches with the X10 stuff built into them |
| [13:42:06] | fatmatt: | Freman, what do the x10 remotes use? IR or radio of some sort? |
| [13:42:13] | Freman: | rf |
| [13:42:19] | Freman: | uhf to be exact |
| [13:42:31] | Freman: | then they encode a signal over the power lines |
| [13:43:01] | Dagmar: | ...which thankfully passes through even the most picky UPS/line_cleaners |
| [13:43:38] | Freman: | RF Wireless wall switch |
| [13:43:39] | Freman: | |
| [13:43:39] | Freman: | $67.50 |
| [13:43:42] | fatmatt: | ahh gotcha, I looked into that sort of stuff a while ago, I'm iffy about wiring something into the house that could get old/be superceded. |
| [13:43:47] | Freman: | MS13 – Hawkeye RF motion sensor $53.80 |
| [13:43:51] | fatmatt: | and they seemed exy |
| [13:43:52] | Dagmar: | Damn |
| [13:44:07] | Dagmar: | fatmatt: Well, even obsolesced, they still work as normal sockets/switches |
| [13:44:25] | Freman: | a serial rf transever is 165 |
| [13:44:49] | Dagmar: | You're looking at somethign the wrong way somehow |
| [13:44:56] | Dagmar: | The basic kit is $99 USD |
| [13:44:58] | bluey-: | anyone got the Remote of the Nova-t working? |
| [13:45:12] | Dagmar: | That's got the USB controller box, and some starter modules and such |
| [13:46:09] | Dagmar: | Mebbe it's time to hassle someone to provide competition for the people making those devices for AU |
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| [13:47:12] | fatmatt: | can you order the compnents from the US? you'd need to get them certified etc, would be exy on a small scale. |
| [13:47:32] | Freman: | http://www.smarthome.com.au/content/products/ . . . roductID=594 |
| [13:47:34] | Dagmar: | What's "exy"? |
| [13:47:50] | Freman: | exspensive |
| [13:48:03] | Freman: | fatmatt: 240v mains here... I'd toast your x10 gear |
| [13:48:08] | Dagmar: | Ouch |
| [13:48:37] | Dagmar: | Yeah there needs to be competition in that market |
| [13:48:41] | fatmatt: | Freman, I'm in Australia, |
| [13:49:07] | Freman: | then no, you can't order from us (c: not this stuff anyway |
| [13:49:40] | Juski: | hmm average x10 module consumes <20mA... so < 5.6W... I wonde how much < they are though |
| [13:49:41] | Freman: | not unless you like the smell of chips in the morning |
| [13:50:33] | Freman: | 3-piece Computer Kit – USB – CK13/U AU$215.85 |
| [13:50:57] | ** Dagmar hates the smell of fresh magic smoke. ** | |
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| [13:52:50] | Juski: | I'll see if I can get a workmate to bring a module in so I can get a clamp meter on it |
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| [13:53:27] | Eureka: | I"m getting "could not connect to the master backend vers --is it running" is the IP address set for in the setup program correct", what's missing? |
| [13:53:37] | Eureka: | anyone has any idea? |
| [13:53:49] | Juski: | the master backend vers? wtf? |
| [13:54:04] | stuarta: | backend isn't running |
| [13:54:33] | C4T3l: | start your backend |
| [13:54:34] | Eureka: | stuarta, to me? |
| [13:55:02] | ** stuarta nods ** | |
| [13:55:06] | Eureka: | not that simple guys: /etc/init.d/mythbackend status |
| [13:55:09] | Eureka: | * status: started |
| [13:55:18] | stuarta: | ps -ef | grep mythbackend |
| [13:55:19] | Eureka: | it's running, that's why I don't get it |
| [13:55:39] | Juski: | just to say it started is no indication it's running |
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| [13:56:01] | Eureka: | stuarta, root 23950 23917 0 09:58 pts/5 00:00:00 grep mythbackend |
| [13:56:18] | Juski: | then it's not running |
| [13:56:31] | Juski: | run mythbackend in a console sesh |
| [13:56:50] | Eureka: | Juski, what do you mean, it's started already |
| [13:56:56] | Juski: | you'll soon see why it's not staying up |
| [13:57:05] | Juski: | Eureka: it STARTED, yes |
| [13:57:10] | Juski: | but it's no longer running |
| [13:57:35] | Eureka: | Juski, you mean a restart /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart as root? |
| [13:57:40] | Juski: | no |
| [13:57:48] | stuarta: | run it by hand |
| [13:58:12] | Eureka: | stuarta, I don't get , more info please, how? |
| [13:58:33] | Eureka: | is it in a menu somewhere? |
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| [13:58:54] | Juski: | mythbackend |
| [13:58:58] | Juski: | then press enter |
| [14:00:10] | Eureka: | Juski, still got the same msg from mythtv |
| [14:00:29] | Eureka: | Connection timed out. |
| [14:00:31] | Eureka: | You probably should modify the Master Server |
| [14:00:31] | Eureka: | settings in the setup program and set the |
| [14:00:32] | Eureka: | proper IP address. |
| [14:00:55] | stuarta: | did you even set it up? |
| [14:01:08] | Juski: | mythtv-setup? |
| [14:01:12] | Eureka: | yes, i've got a list of TV |
| [14:02:00] | Eureka: | general : ip: 127.0.0.1, and the rest is default |
| [14:02:23] | Eureka: | tv format is NTSC as being checked on the card |
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| [14:03:36] | Eureka: | is there anything special that needs to be checked off |
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| [15:03:33] | adante: | my backend log is filling up with this http://rafb.net/paste/results/RiFlsq69.html over and over again, what's causing it? |
| [15:06:25] | Juski: | er.. this? http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /129979.html |
| [15:11:55] | adante: | oh, fab |
| [15:13:14] | adante: | is there a way to disable preview image generation |
| [15:13:58] | Juski: | I think there is |
| [15:14:13] | jams: | yeah it's in the setting somewhere |
| [15:14:30] | jams: | playback settings ? |
| [15:14:44] | Dibblah_: | No, there isn't. |
| [15:15:07] | Dibblah_: | That only disables display :( |
| [15:15:46] | Juski: | you could always hack it out :-P |
| [15:15:53] | adante: | hm maybe i should turn that on, might be more stable than the png generation :] |
| [15:16:32] | jams: | huh..could have swore that also disabled generation. Maybe that changed in the last year or so. |
| [15:18:39] | Anduin: | It can still be requested, and if requested it will be generated (but mythfrontend shouldn't request it anymore, and if you disable them in mythweb it should be "disabled"). |
| [15:20:07] | adante: | well there's a GeneratePreviewPixmaps in mysql settings, let me poke a bit.. |
| [15:20:54] | Anduin: | Yeah, that is the setting (in Setup/TV Settings/Playback screen 2) |
| [15:21:14] | adante: | oh hem |
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| [15:22:05] | Anduin: | ok, screen 3 apparently |
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| [15:22:36] | adante: | ah thanks Anduin didn't see it there |
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| [16:16:27] | grndslm: | so i've got a coupla questions: first, what type of algorithm should i use to deinterlace playback?? kernel? |
| [16:17:03] | Dibblah_: | Depends. |
| [16:17:24] | Dagmar: | If you have a newish nVidia card, it'll deinterlace for you |
| [16:17:25] | grndslm: | on... |
| [16:17:29] | Dibblah_: | None if you're outputting to an interlaced device. |
| [16:17:39] | Dibblah_: | Dagmar: Eh? Nope. |
| [16:17:58] | grndslm: | this is strictly the frontend?? cuz i've got an nvidia there |
| [16:18:14] | Dibblah_: | Bob if you can get a double framerate mode with good vsync |
| [16:18:21] | Dibblah_: | Kernel if you can't. |
| [16:19:02] | grndslm: | what about mpeg2 decoder? libmpeg2 for amd xp2000+? |
| [16:19:05] | Dibblah_: | Dagmar: If you're using XVMC, that's sorta true – But it only does bob. |
| [16:19:12] | Dibblah_: | Yeah, that should be fine. |
| [16:19:47] | Dibblah_: | You know that feeling when your production tree 'loses' a patch you _knew_ was in there? I'm having that feeling now. |
| [16:19:48] | Dagmar: | There's a flicker filter thing in the driver that seems to do a bit more than that |
| [16:20:00] | grndslm: | Dibblah_, I'm confused, with a 6600Gt, I do or don't need to enable deinterlacing |
| [16:20:12] | Dibblah_: | That's a flicker filter on the TV out port. |
| [16:20:36] | Dagmar: | At 1024x768 I've not seen it mess up no matter what I throw at it |
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| [16:20:48] | Dibblah_: | grndslm: Yes. Or no. It depends. As above. Mainly on your output device. |
| [16:21:02] | Juski: | flicker filter works _great_ ! |
| [16:21:05] | Dibblah_: | Dagmar: What are you outputting to? |
| [16:21:17] | grndslm: | output device? as in graphics card or monitor? |
| [16:21:19] | Dibblah_: | ... On TV out? |
| [16:21:26] | Dibblah_: | Monitor. |
| [16:21:27] | Dagmar: | TV. A cheap one at that, and a 19" monitor |
| [16:21:28] | xris: | Dibblah_: the "anti-flicker" stuff in the nvidia driver replaces deinterlacing. |
| [16:21:39] | Dibblah_: | Eh? That's new... |
| [16:21:54] | Dagmar: | Yep. |
| [16:21:54] | grndslm: | sweet dell 24 incher |
| [16:21:56] | Juski: | on tv out, I don't need to deinterlace |
| [16:21:56] | xris: | but only works on tv-out |
| [16:22:00] | xris: | grndslm: you'll need it if you're not using tv-out |
| [16:22:03] | Dibblah_: | Ah. So it's bugger all use to me, then :( |
| [16:22:12] | Juski: | otherwise, bob bob bob if you use xvmc, else experiment to see what works best for you |
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| [16:22:21] | Juski: | there's sometimes no 'right' answer ;-) |
| [16:22:22] | grndslm: | xris, gracias....should i use kernel or bob? |
| [16:22:45] | grndslm: | bob if it'll work and kernel otherwise?? |
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| [16:23:02] | Dagmar: | Flicker filter gets rid of the artifacting in the menus as well, when you're outputting to TV. |
| [16:23:10] | xris: | grndslm: you'll have to test them to see which you prefer. I've hated bob every time I use it. other people swear by it. |
| [16:23:23] | grndslm: | cool...i'll give it a test |
| [16:23:24] | Dagmar: | It manages to sharpen up even rather tiny fonts |
| [16:23:36] | Dibblah: | Bob depends on having good vsync... |
| [16:23:45] | xris: | Dagmar: yup, it's nice. that's why I bought a pci video card for my pundit |
| [16:24:09] | Dibblah: | You absolutely need to do nvidia-settings --assign="SyncToVBlank=1" |
| [16:24:09] | Dibblah: | nvidia-settings --assign="XVideoBlitterSyncToVBlank=1" |
| [16:24:15] | grndslm: | also, my last question for now....i configured my backend with ubuntu dapper, but i would prefer that it start in runlevel 3 instead of 5.....where do i configure the run level? |
| [16:24:34] | xris: | /etc/inittab |
| [16:24:35] | Juski: | rc.d.x iirc |
| [16:24:39] | Dagmar: | in /etc/inittab |
| [16:24:54] | Dagmar: | Look for the string "initdefault" and then go change the obvious number in that line |
| [16:25:02] | Dagmar: | ...unless they've 'debianed' it up or something |
| [16:25:02] | grndslm: | ahh....inittab, i remember now |
| [16:25:05] | Juski: | oh dapper... did they change it? |
| [16:25:14] | xris: | Juski: it's always inittab |
| [16:25:27] | Dagmar: | Unless they're using a shell script for init. ;) |
| [16:25:30] | Dibblah: | Ah... Init. How quaint. |
| [16:25:44] | Juski: | when I was doing update.rc.d last night it was putting stuff into rc.d.x for the different runlevels |
| [16:25:58] | Dagmar: | That's sysvinit stuff |
| [16:26:05] | xris: | Juski: yes. but he wanted to change the runlevel itself |
| [16:26:12] | Dagmar: | it's the all-around cleaner way to do things |
| [16:26:36] | Juski: | riiight (I think I understand that) |
| [16:26:41] | Dagmar: | ...but it's init that starts up the scripts and runs through those directories. |
| [16:26:50] | Dagmar: | You have to tell init what runlevel to go to after 1 and 2 |
| [16:26:58] | Dagmar: | rather 1 or 2. |
| [16:27:38] | Dagmar: | I am not alogether pleased with the way sysvinit works in Slackware |
| [16:27:53] | grndslm: | umm....it says the default runlevel is 2?? |
| [16:27:55] | grndslm: | that can't be right |
| [16:28:01] | Dagmar: | Wow. Maintenance mode. |
| [16:28:02] | Dagmar: | Heh |
| [16:28:03] | grndslm: | i thought it was like 5 on ubuntu |
| [16:28:07] | Dagmar: | It could be correct, tho |
| [16:28:26] | Dagmar: | Which ones do what is strictly a matter of local convention, although MOST follow the same basic rules |
| [16:28:34] | grndslm: | well, i thought servers booted to 3 and desktops to 5 |
| [16:28:36] | Dagmar: | I've never found anything like a standards document for that |
| [16:28:50] | Dagmar: | Well, 3 is typically the console multi-user runlevel. |
| [16:28:59] | Juski: | linux would be nicer if linux == linux. I said that yesterday, but to me there's no obvious reason why so many distros vary so much |
| [16:29:04] | grndslm: | i definitely thought debian standardized init runlevels and such |
| [16:29:08] | Dagmar: | Either 4 or 5 are generally used to bring up the graphical console. |
| [16:29:31] | grndslm: | so how does inittab bring up gdm if its default runlevel is 2? |
| [16:29:39] | Dagmar: | grndslm: debian may have, but one of the things that's getting the debian people a little ill with the Ubuntu folks is that the ubuntu guys keep coming up with slightly different ways to do things. |
| [16:29:42] | iresprite: | hey, all. mind if I throw a permissions question out there? |
| [16:29:59] | Dagmar: | grndslm: It would just mean that they've put a script in there to start gdm at runlevel 2 is all |
| [16:30:10] | Juski: | the one thing I guess you have to be careful of is making sure that myth's dependencies are running (e.g. mysql & suchlike) |
| [16:30:14] | Dagmar: | Aside from init itself, it's *all* shell scripts. |
| [16:30:17] | grndslm: | awkward |
| [16:30:26] | Juski: | iresprite: just ask! |
| [16:30:31] | Dagmar: | Juski: I am working on solving that one actually. :) |
| [16:31:10] | iresprite: | So I've got mythburn going as far as *attempting* to burn the dvd. Then I get the following: |
| [16:31:18] | iresprite: | Burning DVD-R image |
| [16:31:26] | iresprite: | :-( unable to open64("/dev/dvd",O_RDONLY): Permission denied |
| [16:31:34] | Dagmar: | I've got an init script for mysql that will auto-vivify the database, and I'm working on the last bits of one for the backend that will require the database have the proper configuration data in it |
| [16:31:44] | iresprite: | Now, from what I can tell I've got my permissions right. |
| [16:31:51] | iresprite: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-06–04 16:40 /dev/dvd -> hdc |
| [16:31:52] | iresprite: | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-06–04 16:40 /dev/hdc |
| [16:32:03] | iresprite: | and www-data is part of the cd-rom group. |
| [16:32:12] | Dagmar: | ...trying to get the thing so that from the first install, the system will go straight to mythtv-setup, and from there it will start the backend as a daemon and the frontend as the rc into X. |
| [16:32:31] | Merlin83b: | Dagmar: Trying to copy KnoppMyth, then? ;-) |
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| [16:32:42] | iresprite: | any thoughts? |
| [16:32:47] | Dagmar: | Merlin83b: Nope. Just making packages that require as little manual configuration as possible. |
| [16:33:01] | Dagmar: | Since configuring the thing is mainly a linear process, it just makes sense to me |
| [16:33:13] | grndslm: | so, is it possible to have mythbackend automatically start in a terminal all by itself without me logging in, opening a terminal, and typing "mythbackend"? |
| [16:33:22] | Dagmar: | grndslm: Yeah |
| [16:33:22] | Juski: | Dagmar: cool. looking for a thing to hand out at a linux show soon actually ;-) |
| [16:33:38] | grndslm: | Dagmar, teach me! |
| [16:33:50] | Juski: | I have knoppmyth in reserve, but I'd rather not... |
| [16:34:02] | grndslm: | knoppmyth was junk |
| [16:34:15] | grndslm: | i couldn't ever get it to do anything other than the standard install |
| [16:34:26] | grndslm: | very limited options |
| [16:35:25] | Dagmar: | grndslm: All you need is something like http://pastebin.com/760060 in there being called from inside /etc/rc.d/rc3.d as say, S75mythbackend |
| [16:35:43] | Merlin83b: | grndslm: Junk which got me a working MythTV system :-) |
| [16:35:45] | Dagmar: | That one at least makes sure the database is running and partly sane before it will start the backend up |
| [16:36:09] | Dagmar: | It also feeds the mc.sql file to mysql if that step's not been done yet |
| [16:36:15] | Juski: | Merlin83b: does knoppmyth work with dvb right out of the box? |
| [16:36:34] | grndslm: | i have the init scripts, but i'd like to see nothing but mythbackend "output" on the screen every time i restart it....since that's all the backend's being used for |
| [16:36:48] | Dagmar: | I'm kinda thinking I should just replace the perl script it calls tho, I can do that same thing in about 10 lines of shell scripting |
| [16:36:51] | Merlin83b: | Juski: I had to fiddle, but that was a long time ago and the problem proved to be in Myth rather than KnoppMyth. |
| [16:36:56] | Juski: | grndslm: you shouldn't have to worry about it |
| [16:37:05] | iresprite: | So... no thoughts on the perms? |
| [16:37:10] | Merlin83b: | I want to install on a new drive so I might give a newer release of KM a go. |
| [16:37:26] | grndslm: | well, i can get it to start at boot, but i can't see any output....just wondering if there was a way |
| [16:37:28] | Dagmar: | grndslm: Set LOGFILE to /dev/console then I guess |
| [16:37:38] | grndslm: | cool...that might be what i'm looking foor |
| [16:37:40] | grndslm: | for |
| [16:37:53] | Dagmar: | I write very very readable shell scripts with extra commenting |
| [16:38:05] | grndslm: | where is "logfile", btw? |
| [16:38:14] | Juski: | iresprite: looks more like a mounting problem... or you've just got a finalised disk in there |
| [16:38:29] | Dagmar: | It's sourced in in line 9 ". /etc/rc.d/rc.mythbackend.conf" for lack of a better way to keep it out of the run script |
| [16:38:49] | Dagmar: | It should probably go into /etc, but I'm trying to keep it somewhat Slackware-ish |
| [16:39:13] | gutano: | iresprite: can you 'su www-data' (assuming it has shell access) and burn directly through growisofs? |
| [16:39:16] | ** Juski is on the brink of making a distro along the lines of minimyth, but fo the s100 ** | |
| [16:39:36] | iresprite: | Juski: dvd appears to be unused. What kind of mounting problem? |
| [16:39:38] | Dagmar: | Just wherevver your current shell script is, go into it and change the line that starts the backend to read "/usr/bin/mythbackend -d -l /dev/console" or whatever and you're done |
| [16:39:44] | iresprite: | gutano: haven't tried that yet. |
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| [16:40:43] | Merlin83b: | Juski: Did yours turn up? |
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| [16:40:51] | gutano: | iresprite: that looks like the feedback that comes from growisofs, I doubt it will work... But if you can confirm that points in the right direction (growisofs FAQ, or maybe more follow up questions here =D |
| [16:40:58] | bluey-: | can anyone tell me why livetv isn't working?: http://nopaste.php-q.net/217074 |
| [16:41:07] | Juski: | Merlin83b: might've come today I dunno |
| [16:41:10] | Dagmar: | ...although frankly it would probably work better to have it going to a text file and then replace one of the console lines in /etc/inittab to run a tail -f on that file |
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| [16:41:26] | Merlin83b: | Juski: So already talking about making a distro and you haven't got one yet? I'm impressed! |
| [16:41:31] | iresprite: | gutano: thanks! I'll check that angle out. |
| [16:41:36] | Merlin83b: | Still waiting to hear how you get one and then may buy one :-) |
| [16:41:45] | Juski: | well if I get the frontend working I might aswell package it up |
| [16:41:56] | Merlin83b: | Hey, I'm not going to stop you ;-) |
| [16:42:07] | grndslm: | Dagmar, you're the programmer...not me |
| [16:42:08] | Juski: | already suspect I'm the first UK owner or the box |
| [16:42:17] | Juski: | (when it arrives that is) |
| [16:42:39] | grndslm: | what do the switches -d and -l do?? l is for log, apparently? |
| [16:42:42] | Juski: | unless people already have em & they've just been selfish buggers :-P |
| [16:43:00] | Dagmar: | grndslm: It daemonizes it |
| [16:43:34] | Dagmar: | i.e., it cuts the tty loose and backgrounds itself like a proper daemon |
| [16:43:46] | Dagmar: | That's one you don't want to leave off in an init script |
| [16:44:04] | Juski: | so _that's_ what the init script I've got for umbongo is doing wrong! |
| [16:44:09] | Merlin83b: | Juski: Or people have 'em and have put VDR or something on there. |
| [16:44:10] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [16:44:14] | grndslm: | hmm....ok, but then the logs will not be written to a file if i use -l /dev/console? |
| [16:44:17] | Juski: | I get backend messages all over the tty |
| [16:44:29] | Juski: | whichever I start it from :-/ |
| [16:44:31] | Dagmar: | ...and your init process stops right there, too. |
| [16:44:38] | Juski: | something to fix tonight then |
| [16:44:50] | Dagmar: | grndslm: Nope. It writes to one place only. THankfully there's plenty of ways to handle that |
| [16:45:17] | Juski: | Merlin83b: lol. nah there really seem to be NO british webpages abaaaht it |
| [16:45:40] | Dagmar: | I'm not sure if the way it writes log messages is "fifo-safe" tho. I've not looked at the code that closely yet |
| [16:45:44] | Merlin83b: | Well I look forward to your howto and distro. It will cause me to spend money. |
| [16:45:52] | Merlin83b: | (okay, that part I'm not so keen on...) |
| [16:46:12] | grndslm: | Dagmar, I'm confused.... using the -l switch will write out to the console and a log file or just the console? |
| [16:46:29] | Dagmar: | The -l switch tells it *the next argument is the name of the file to write to*. |
| [16:46:39] | Dagmar: | In this case, /dev/console, which should mostly work |
| [16:46:50] | grndslm: | yea...i don't think i really need a file for the backend anyway |
| [16:46:53] | Dagmar: | Some devices look enoough like files to code that it doesn't matter |
| [16:47:01] | grndslm: | if it f's up, then i just restart it |
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| [16:47:29] | grndslm: | Soo...what exactly is /dev/console? |
| [16:47:31] | Dagmar: | I'm considering just making it part of a while loop that writes to logger so it goes into syslog, because then syslog could write it to the console |
| [16:47:33] | grndslm: | tty1 or what? |
| [16:47:39] | Juski: | woohooo! parcelforce left a card today!! |
| [16:47:43] | Dagmar: | It's "the console device" |
| [16:47:52] | grndslm: | in lamen's terms |
| [16:47:58] | Dagmar: | Stuff written to it, in theory, is supposed to appear on the console. |
| [16:48:25] | grndslm: | what if the 'puter boots into gdm? |
| [16:48:34] | Dagmar: | I have my doubts about whether or not I can safely sanitize data being passed to a shell script from anotehr shell script tho |
| [16:48:38] | psofa: | cani change inputs in browse mode? |
| [16:48:41] | Dagmar: | I'm going to have to dig some stuff up on that |
| [16:48:58] | Dagmar: | If the thing boots to a graphical login tool like gdm, it's doing the wrong thing. |
| [16:49:17] | grndslm: | so i have to disable that, if it starts at runlevel 2? |
| [16:49:32] | grndslm: | maybe i should just try the ubuntu-server instead |
| [16:49:32] | psofa: | i mean if i push Y i go to the next inout.So if i want to switch from 1 to 3 ill have to go 1->2->3 |
| [16:49:39] | psofa: | can i skip 2 someway? |
| [16:49:42] | Dagmar: | There's ways to put something that will spawn an unfocusable borderless xterm to the window of gdm by editing it's session file tho |
| [16:50:05] | Dagmar: | It will go from 1 straight to whatever is the default runlevel |
| [16:50:26] | grndslm: | Dagmar, that might be too much for me |
| [16:50:31] | grndslm: | i think i just need to disable gdm |
| [16:50:36] | Dagmar: | i.e., a normal machine does not "pass through" 3 to get to 4 or 5 |
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| [16:53:54] | grndslm: | Dagmar, I just deleted gdm |
| [16:53:59] | grndslm: | that should solve that problem |
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| [16:58:45] | Juski: | time to go home, pick up the courier card then pick up the s100 |
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| [17:02:47] | jxmiller: | hello wjith linux is mythTV + skystar2 tuner the best option? |
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| [17:03:18] | xris: | not if you can't use sky |
| [17:03:48] | jxmiller: | I dont even know what skystar2 is really |
| [17:04:00] | jxmiller: | is that satallite? |
| [17:04:18] | jxmiller: | I thought skystar2 was just a hardware tuner card |
| [17:04:32] | kormoc: | it's a DVB tuner, for satalite tv |
| [17:04:41] | jxmiller: | ohh i see |
| [17:04:52] | kormoc: | if you want a hardware tuner for standard cable (like comcast) a pvr 150 or pvr 500 is the best deal |
| [17:05:02] | jxmiller: | happauge right? |
| [17:05:05] | kormoc: | aye |
| [17:05:19] | jxmiller: | I used to have a hauppauge tuner about 7 years ago |
| [17:05:28] | jxmiller: | its been a while |
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| [17:05:43] | Dagmar: | The new ones are *much* improved |
| [17:05:51] | Dagmar: | The hardware accellerated encoding will blow you away |
| [17:05:55] | xris: | jxmiller: first question. analog or digital cable? |
| [17:06:01] | jxmiller: | are there any rules about discussing descramling tv signals here? |
| [17:06:08] | xris: | jxmiller: yes. don't |
| [17:06:12] | xris: | it's illegal |
| [17:06:13] | jxmiller: | I got analog cable at the moment |
| [17:06:27] | jxmiller: | thanks xris |
| [17:06:31] | xris: | jxmiller: for analog cable, pvr-150 is your best option |
| [17:06:48] | xris: | for digital, pay the extra $$ for an HD box, and use firewire. |
| [17:07:35] | jxmiller: | I was wanting to set up a linux box in my basement and run DVI out so that I could watch TV/movies/browse the internet / etc from my main TV |
| [17:09:06] | jxmiller: | honestly though it will be a while before I can afford equipment, I am just pre thinking things |
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| [17:18:09] | LoLander: | can one buy pre setup Mythtv systems? |
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| [17:20:46] | serialpinguin: | does anyone sell boxes with mythtv preloaded and setup? |
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| [17:21:59] | LoLander: | yes, with for example a list of supported TV's, etc? |
| [17:22:05] | Inflap: | howdy |
| [17:22:12] | gutano: | LoLander, serialpinguin: http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+prebuil . . . -US:official |
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| [17:22:22] | Inflap: | I been looking around, but is ati all in wonder still a no go with mythtv cause of gatos? |
| [17:22:27] | serialpinguin: | gutano: |
| [17:22:30] | serialpinguin: | gutano: thx |
| [17:23:02] | LoLander: | shot, will check it out... |
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| [17:24:14] | jams: | Inflap- they do not implememnt the full V4L api |
| [17:24:46] | Inflap: | ok, so nothing updated :) well thats my only option for myth at this time, but doesn't seem like its an option at all heh |
| [17:25:27] | Inflap: | out of the windows options, any recommendations? |
| [17:26:01] | LoLander: | My current TV is quite small, TV picture through Mythtv is perfect, but even after resizing the fonts in the theme, the theme fonts are hard to read. ne one have any suggestions? |
| [17:26:06] | jams: | sagetv is popular |
| [17:26:21] | Inflap: | ok, i heard sage or beyond |
| [17:26:48] | jams: | LoLander- make sure your running at 100dpi |
| [17:28:19] | Inflap: | jams: there is a sagetv for linux. I assume that wouldn't work either because of the driver issue? |
| [17:29:25] | jams: | Inflap- cant really say |
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| [17:29:54] | jams: | all I know about their linux version is that it's based on gentoo and it doesn't have a demo |
| [17:30:11] | LoLander: | jams: I comented out every font in xorg.conf that wasn't 100dpi, but is there a way to check what the current font is? |
| [17:30:25] | xris: | LoLander: not font. screen res |
| [17:30:34] | Inflap: | heh |
| [17:30:38] | jams: | LoLander- xdpyinfo |grep res |
| [17:31:03] | LoLander: | ic, thanks guys! |
| [17:33:29] | LoLander: | it shows two: 86x84 and 45x48 dots per inch (I'm running two screens on a nividia) |
| [17:34:13] | LoLander: | guess i better go get some coffee... |
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| [17:47:03] | speedsix: | Hi all |
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| [17:49:02] | speedsix: | anybody home |
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| [18:02:03] | psofa: | hmm how can i minimize the lag between realtime broadcast and myth? |
| [18:02:17] | psofa: | myth is 8 seconds back in time |
| [18:03:57] | kormoc: | psofa, you can just not run myth |
| [18:05:37] | psofa: | :) |
| [18:06:04] | psofa: | im sure theres room for improvement |
| [18:06:19] | psofa: | thats what i was also hearing about dvb tuning |
| [18:09:20] | Dibblah_: | DVB tuning in current SVN hasn't got all that much room for improvement. |
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| [18:13:07] | GreyFoxx: | Can anyone point me to an example of how I might restrict a specific user(or set of users) to only a certain range of IP's while leaving other accounts unrestricted ? |
| [18:13:09] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [18:13:13] | GreyFoxx: | wrong channel |
| [18:13:15] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
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| [18:17:44] | psofa: | Dibblah_, yes i was reffering to the answers i was getting pre-svn |
| [18:18:17] | psofa: | tuning in svn is acceptable |
| [18:19:24] | xris: | GreyFoxx: ssh keys. :) |
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| [18:20:03] | ben: | does anyone know why making an account on freenode in kopete and then trying to access this channel doesn't work? |
| [18:20:19] | xris: | ben: huh? |
| [18:20:27] | ben: | it goes to irc.debian.org instead |
| [18:20:31] | ben: | no idea why |
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| [18:20:49] | xris: | sounds like a configuration mixup |
| [18:20:55] | ben: | yes, it does |
| [18:21:06] | stuarta: | irc.debian.org points to freenode, but they are changing it to oftc |
| [18:21:14] | ben: | ah. |
| [18:21:44] | stuarta: | tho not till July |
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| [18:22:51] | Darthy: | when showing live-tv the audio is detuning. its tuning up so bad, that the audio drops out.. after a few secs audio comes back with normal speed, then detunes again.. aso |
| [18:22:55] | Darthy: | what to do? |
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| [18:24:18] | xris: | Darthy: tuner card? |
| [18:24:42] | psofa: | Darthy, enable the extra buffering |
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| [18:26:11] | Darthy: | do you mean "aggressive audio buffering" in the frontend setup? |
| [18:26:33] | psofa: | theres one option in setup->tv->playback |
| [18:26:36] | psofa: | maybe its that |
| [18:29:19] | xris: | I'm bored. someone entertain me. ;) |
| [18:31:05] | ** gardengnome dances for xris ** | |
| [18:31:18] | xris: | w00t |
| [18:31:41] | ** stuarta puts a silly hat on gardengnome ** | |
| [18:32:16] | xris: | don't garden gnomes already wear silly hats? |
| [18:32:28] | stuarta: | this is an even sillier hat |
| [18:32:39] | xris: | ooohhh... :) |
| [18:33:19] | ben: | yay |
| [18:33:38] | gardengnome: | i think we've had that conversation before! |
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| [18:34:12] | ben: | hmm |
| [18:34:25] | ben: | I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to afford my mythtv setup |
| [18:34:28] | stuarta: | quite possibly.... |
| [18:34:48] | ** ben fires up openoffice.org ** | |
| [18:36:08] | ** jchome crashs all java apps. ** | |
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| [18:38:56] | GreyFoxx: | Man, working with "strange" packaging systems is a pain in the butt |
| [18:39:10] | ben: | indeed |
| [18:39:19] | ben: | I'd just stick with deb if I were you |
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| [18:39:46] | GreyFoxx: | ben: That;s not my choice either. Overall I'm not a big package fan |
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| [18:40:17] | GreyFoxx: | but having to deal with a system a user installed, and being restricted in that I can't allow this box to do mass updates is giving me a headache |
| [18:41:29] | b8zs: | can anyone who is using ivtv 0.6.2 take a look at this init output please: http://pastebin.ca/62220 |
| [18:41:33] | b8zs: | cant figure it out :( |
| [18:41:57] | GreyFoxx: | I want it to recompile a single package, but editing the ebuild gets upset, so now I have to look at the Manifest and either update it or force emerge to go ahead and compile even if the ebuild doesn't match the manifest |
| [18:42:28] | ben: | lost you at manifest, I don't do gentoo, sorry |
| [18:42:38] | GreyFoxx: | ben: Neither do I by choice |
| [18:42:56] | opello: | can't you just re-emerge the package to have it recompile? |
| [18:42:56] | ben: | good point |
| [18:42:57] | GreyFoxx: | but alas, My company is not who set this box up, so it's what I have to deal with :) |
| [18:43:12] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, or you just have it rebuild the manifest |
| [18:43:23] | kormoc: | ebuild /path/to/myth.ebuild digest |
| [18:43:39] | kormoc: | will grab sorce files and generate the manifest automagically |
| [18:43:41] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: Sweet, that saves me some effort. |
| [18:43:43] | kormoc: | *source |
| [18:43:46] | opello: | emerge --digest too |
| [18:44:02] | kormoc: | aye |
| [18:44:43] | kormoc: | I tend to use ebuild while I'm playing with ebuilds as it allows me to just compile once and all that, so no real recompiles needed |
| [18:44:45] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: Thanks, looks like that did it |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | You're welcome |
| [18:45:12] | ** GreyFoxx still hates package systems ;P ** | |
| [18:45:37] | GreyFoxx: | long live sourcecode or tarball packages! |
| [18:46:18] | ben: | can I have an opinion on this hdd: |
| [18:46:19] | ben: | http://gryphonit.securewebstore.co.uk/INU_pro . . . ref=50603832 |
| [18:46:20] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [18:47:16] | ben: | it is to be used as my mythtv storage device (no encoding) and I need to be able to put it in my three-year-old computer; is there a chance my motherboard won't support it? |
| [18:48:30] | xris: | ben: depends on the controller in your motherboard. 3 years old should be fine, though. |
| [18:48:38] | ben: | xris |
| [18:48:39] | opello: | 3 years? it should support all the way to 300gb pata or whatever the limit is |
| [18:48:44] | ben: | goodgood |
| [18:48:57] | ben: | it's a crappy tiny-brand pc, (not my choice.) |
| [18:49:01] | ben: | so I was worried |
| [18:49:04] | ben: | good |
| [18:49:05] | ben: | greyfoxx, sod that... deb for the win. |
| [18:49:49] | ** xris wants to combine spec (rpm) and deb into a better package format. ** | |
| [18:50:07] | ben: | xris would be better off improving apt's dependency logic |
| [18:50:25] | xris: | ben: biggest issue with deb is that the control files are, well, more than one file. |
| [18:51:10] | ben: | you have one package which depends on that other package and want to remove both, let's remove the second one before the first one... nope, can't do that |
| [18:53:12] | ben: | gah, kicker is really pissing me off with its constant freezings |
| [18:53:30] | ** kormoc wonders why the order to remove packages would really matter ** | |
| [18:54:19] | Cardoe_work: | xris: Remember when you were hiring and people kept being dumb? |
| [18:54:25] | Cardoe_work: | xris: I'm having the same problem |
| [18:54:28] | xris: | Cardoe_work: yes |
| [18:54:56] | ** ben also wonders, but apt won't remove a package if it is depended on even if the dependents are to be remmoved also. you'd think it'd just reorder it, but nooo ** | |
| [18:55:24] | xris: | Cardoe_work: yeah, seems to be a lot of that going around |
| [18:55:39] | GreyFoxx: | Cardoe_work: Hehe I'm hiring right now too. went through 40 resumes today..... sad sad stuff so far |
| [18:57:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe_work, get any resumes in 1337 speak? |
| [18:57:35] | Cardoe_work: | kormoc: ha no |
| [18:57:43] | Cardoe_work: | But I want PHP |
| [18:57:51] | Darthy: | on some channels in the first few seconds there is no audio.. then it comes.. is that a normal issue? |
| [18:57:53] | Cardoe_work: | if I get another person telling me how "ASP.NET is my solution" |
| [18:58:14] | kormoc: | Cardoe, xris did get one resume parly in 1337 speak |
| [18:58:27] | Cardoe_work: | he wins |
| [18:58:32] | opello: | heh |
| [18:58:44] | opello: | asp.net is my solution at work :/ |
| [18:58:55] | Cardoe_work: | opello: hah |
| [18:59:03] | opello: | we don't get to use fun things like php |
| [18:59:09] | Cardoe_work: | I just pwnd my boss |
| [18:59:19] | opello: | lol, oh? |
| [19:00:02] | Cardoe_work: | his girlfriend got one of the new RFID cards |
| [19:00:05] | Cardoe_work: | he had it in his wallet |
| [19:00:09] | Cardoe_work: | and he walked by my desk |
| [19:00:25] | Cardoe_work: | and you heard a beep. |
| [19:00:33] | Cardoe_work: | it transmits track data |
| [19:00:43] | Cardoe_work: | so not only did I get the account # and Name and CVV value. |
| [19:00:53] | opello: | lol, nice |
| [19:01:01] | Cardoe_work: | if you get a RFID credit card |
| [19:01:06] | Cardoe_work: | cut it up |
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| [19:01:25] | Cardoe_work: | seriously. |
| [19:01:33] | opello: | you'd think it'd have some challenge/response at least? |
| [19:01:39] | Cardoe_work: | I've tweaked some of our hardware to be able to read those cards from like 12 ft away in your wallet in your pocket. |
| [19:02:01] | xris: | lol |
| [19:02:06] | Cardoe_work: | He told me he got the card |
| [19:02:12] | opello: | heh, convenience, right... |
| [19:02:16] | Cardoe_work: | so my project was to make a stealth reader |
| [19:02:23] | Cardoe_work: | it's taped under my desk |
| [19:03:17] | b8zs: | anyone got ivtv 0.6.2 working with a 2.6.16 kernel? Im havin i2c problems... and so are some people on the ivtv list |
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| [19:06:26] | psofa: | b8zs, i dont think i2c is you r problem |
| [19:06:43] | psofa: | that is-> tveeprom 0–0050: Encountered bad packet header [ff]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom. |
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| [19:12:11] | b8zs: | psofa, ive read that people get that error and the cards still work fine? |
| [19:12:25] | psofa: | no idea |
| [19:12:33] | b8zs: | but the i2c errors are the problem, cause the kernel isnt loading the card at the right time |
| [19:12:35] | psofa: | ivtv0: No tuner detected, default to NTSC |
| [19:12:43] | b8zs: | im trying 2.6.17 atm :/ |
| [19:13:01] | Cardoe_work: | uh |
| [19:13:03] | Cardoe_work: | why? |
| [19:13:15] | psofa: | no i was getting those errors when i didnt have some modules loaded.Imean if something goes wrong the i2c errors will pop up |
| [19:13:17] | b8zs: | aparently there was a fix for i2c in 2.6.17 |
| [19:13:31] | Cardoe_work: | b8zs: and ivtv will not work with 2.6.17 |
| [19:13:39] | Cardoe_work: | b8zs: try the SVN HEAD |
| [19:13:40] | Cardoe_work: | maybe |
| [19:14:10] | b8zs: | psofa, i have all the modules loaded, i think |
| [19:14:14] | ** ben is glad to still be with nice outdated 2.6.15 ** | |
| [19:14:27] | b8zs: | maby my modules.conf needs to be tweaked? |
| [19:14:44] | psofa: | nope if you didnt have them it would pop an error about them i suppose |
| [19:15:28] | ben: | can anyone help me with finding a nice case? froogle is being a git |
| [19:15:41] | xris: | ben: what form factr? |
| [19:15:50] | ben: | mini-itx |
| [19:16:13] | ben: | needs to accomodate a normal-sized (i.e. 5.5") dvd drive |
| [19:16:35] | ben: | should also have a nice flap on the front for masking my cheap ugly drive |
| [19:16:38] | ben: | :) |
| [19:16:51] | gutano: | had bunch of problems with 2.6.16.16 and ivtv 0.6.2... modules loaded with warnings in dmesg, but no video |
| [19:17:07] | b8zs: | psofa, do you remember what modules you needed to load to get it working? |
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| [19:17:19] | gutano: | went to a 2.6.15.something with 0.4.2, worked right away |
| [19:18:04] | Cardoe_work: | gutano: 2.6.15 is the way to go |
| [19:18:11] | Cardoe_work: | with like 0.4.2 |
| [19:18:14] | psofa: | b8zs, wait i have them noted somewhere |
| [19:18:14] | Cardoe_work: | works the best |
| [19:18:19] | Cardoe_work: | 0.4.5 is horribly broken |
| [19:18:21] | psofa: | i did that 2 days ago |
| [19:18:24] | Cardoe_work: | 0.6.x has issues for most people |
| [19:18:37] | b8zs: | hmmm, I might just downgrade my kernel then |
| [19:18:40] | gutano: | Cardoe_work: yeah, just need to get my guide data working again.... oh well that's another day, I have work to do =D |
| [19:18:53] | psofa: | b8zs, tuner |
| [19:18:53] | psofa: | tda9887 |
| [19:18:53] | psofa: | cx25840 |
| [19:18:53] | psofa: | wm8775 |
| [19:19:06] | Cardoe_work: | firmware_loader |
| [19:19:11] | Cardoe_work: | tveeprom |
| [19:19:27] | b8zs: | i have all of those |
| [19:19:31] | b8zs: | expect firmware loader |
| [19:19:37] | b8zs: | except* |
| [19:19:49] | Cardoe_work: | well unless it's compiled into the kernel |
| [19:20:06] | b8zs: | ya i compiled it in |
| [19:20:18] | b8zs: | ivtv says it loads the firmware fine afaik |
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| [19:21:02] | ben: | hi |
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| [19:21:15] | ben: | hi |
| [19:21:46] | Juski: | good evening |
| [19:22:22] | ben: | evening. |
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| [19:22:51] | ** ben has got most of his frontend planned, excepting the case; froogle is proving to be a bit unrangeful ** | |
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| [19:23:33] | Juski: | that's nice |
| [19:23:50] | ** Juski hollers to get the attention of the gardengnome ** | |
| [19:24:05] | ben: | froogle's ones are too small to get a dvd drive in — and there are some people having kernel-specific troubles with some module or other |
| [19:24:15] | ben: | and such. |
| [19:24:39] | Juski: | erm... since when did the case/dvd drive have anything to do with the kernel? |
| [19:25:05] | Juski: | if you look hard enough you will always find somebody having trouble with hardware on xxxx distro |
| [19:25:08] | gardengnome: | Juski: sup |
| [19:25:12] | ben: | never, but I thought it would be prudent to update you on non-me-related happenings in the channel |
| [19:25:29] | Juski: | gardengnome: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/s100/ :-D |
| [19:25:51] | gardengnome: | Juski: got yours? awesome! |
| [19:25:51] | ben: | apache 1.3? ha. |
| [19:26:33] | Juski: | gardengnome: just burning DSL to a CD so I can make a USB key bootable |
| [19:26:35] | ben: | image scaling in konq'd be good |
| [19:26:56] | gardengnome: | Juski: :) how do you like it so far? |
| [19:27:05] | Juski: | gardengnome: I likey likey likey |
| [19:27:16] | Juski: | so far it has a WAF of -100 but hey... |
| [19:27:20] | gardengnome: | DSCN6398.jpg – screw ya ;) |
| [19:27:28] | ben: | what is it a series of photos of, aside from a pc? |
| [19:27:30] | gardengnome: | Juski: huh? why such a bad WAF? |
| [19:28:08] | ben: | mythfrontend? |
| [19:28:16] | gardengnome: | ben: yep. |
| [19:28:26] | Juski: | ben: 1. it was mega cheap. 2. it can run linux. 3. it's completely silent. 4.... it has very good quality TV out AND scart, spdif.... |
| [19:28:34] | Juski: | gardengnome: it cost money :-( |
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| [19:28:44] | ben: | wooh. |
| [19:29:22] | Juski: | tell ya what though gardengnome, the BIOS is fricking hard to get into |
| [19:29:23] | gardengnome: | Juski: she doesn't give you a monthly allowance? |
| [19:29:28] | gardengnome: | Juski: really?! |
| [19:29:34] | Juski: | gardengnome: really |
| [19:29:40] | ben: | I'm sure you sent me a link to a case last night, juski, but I'll ask you again |
| [19:29:41] | gardengnome: | Juski: what'd you have to do? |
| [19:29:56] | Juski: | gardengnome: it's a matter of judging exactly when to press DEL |
| [19:30:06] | gardengnome: | Juski: why not hammer it? |
| [19:30:12] | Juski: | ben: www.tranquilpc.com |
| [19:30:14] | Juski: | hammer it? |
| [19:30:32] | gardengnome: | Juski: my cables should arrive on wednesday. happy hacking! :) |
| [19:30:33] | Juski: | like it says to do in the german instructions I can't read you mean? |
| [19:30:36] | gardengnome: | Juski: punch it repeatedly |
| [19:30:49] | gardengnome: | Juski: i haven't really read any instructions yet |
| [19:30:55] | Juski: | I'm amazed my cables worked 1st time to be honest |
| [19:31:06] | ben: | thanks :) |
| [19:31:30] | Juski: | ooo hang on.. I can repurpose the mini PCI wireless card for wifey's laptop, maybe... that'll score me some points! |
| [19:31:56] | Juski: | right just gonna flash the USB key |
| [19:32:24] | gardengnome: | Juski: i was thinking about putting that minipci card into my laptop, actually. :) it's prism54, FYI |
| [19:32:41] | gardengnome: | Juski: i'm gonna study now, but please keep me posted. |
| [19:32:51] | scopeuk: | playing with your new toy and gettingyourself in truble with the other half hey juski? |
| [19:33:12] | Juski: | scopeuk: not really. she's in a bad mood anyway |
| [19:33:17] | scopeuk: | argh been there |
| [19:33:50] | scopeuk: | not like this guy then http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/ |
| [19:33:59] | Juski: | lol |
| [19:34:12] | scopeuk: | its a great url isent it |
| [19:34:16] | gardengnome: | my GF is prolly glad when i get a new toy. i'm distracted then ;) |
| [19:34:20] | scopeuk: | my typing has allowed you to read it ;-) |
| [19:34:27] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [19:35:20] | gardengnome: | Then factor in my being English while she is German, [..] but also opens up a whole field of sub-arguments grounded in grammatical and semantic disputes and, [..] – been there :/ |
| [19:35:25] | Juski: | " Whether her cutting our son's hair comes under 'money-saving skill' or 'therapy in the making'." |
| [19:35:38] | Juski: | lol |
| [19:36:11] | scopeuk: | that site is great |
| [19:36:26] | scopeuk: | i started readign one night and 2 hours lated stoped having not finished |
| [19:37:22] | Juski: | whatever you have to go through it can't be as bad as 'going without' though |
| [19:37:44] | opello: | scopeuk: wow, that's hilarious :) |
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| [19:37:46] | gardengnome: | you should not send such websites to people who are supposed to be studying. |
| [19:37:53] | opello: | or working, heh |
| [19:38:30] | scopeuk: | gardengnome im spose to have been studying th east 3 months |
| [19:38:39] | scopeuk: | unfurtunately the exam is tomoz and ive done about 4 hours |
| [19:40:35] | speedsix: | Hi all |
| [19:40:41] | Juski: | hey speedsix |
| [19:40:51] | speedsix: | How is everybody tonight |
| [19:41:40] | ** Juski is hacking ** | |
| [19:42:06] | Juski is now known as Ju5k1 | |
| [19:42:09] | speedsix: | I have just been setting up a Logitech Harmony remote with myth. OH.THE.PAIN :/ |
| [19:42:35] | Ju5k1: | erm... isn't that like supposed to be umm... as easy as clicky clicky on the interweb? :-P |
| [19:43:15] | speedsix: | Yeah if A. your device is listed and B you're setting up a regular tv/dvd/hifi system. Not mythtv jump points etc. |
| [19:44:29] | speedsix: | myth jump points seem to be a bit iffy if you're in a section, say listen to music. I had to get the remote to get myth to jump back to the main menu and then jump to the section I wanted |
| [19:44:46] | scopeuk: | which imho is what youd expect |
| [19:44:54] | speedsix: | I set jump points up on the function keys and made sure they didn't clash with anything |
| [19:45:58] | speedsix: | Surely I should just be able to jump from section to section without hopping back to the main menu? |
| [19:46:06] | speedsix: | it just kinda went screwy |
| [19:47:34] | speedsix: | Jumping out of mythmusic would some times leave the music playing while you were in the new section. Not sure if that is intended or not |
| [19:47:40] | scopeuk: | i dont understand the system myth uses to operate each section |
| [19:48:06] | scopeuk: | id take a guess mythmusic is usign an external player whcih your jump isent killing |
| [19:48:11] | speedsix: | if I set it to jump to the main menu and then the section it wants it works great |
| [19:50:09] | speedsix: | Can anyone think why the command "mythfrontend -display :0.1" (start myth on second screen) causes the watch live tv to just appear as a blue screen with sound? |
| [19:50:16] | scopeuk: | liek i say i dont fully understand how it works under the hood |
| [19:50:45] | ** scopeuk shuts up before he says somethign completly false and makes jsuki shout at hime ** | |
| [19:52:43] | speedsix: | he's not listening, go right ahead ;) |
| [19:54:19] | speedsix: | any ideas? Works fine if I start it with just "mythfrontend" from the second screen. But this is no good as I need it to start on boot on the second display. |
| [19:57:07] | speedsix: | Oh it also prints "X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8" on the command line when this happens |
| [19:57:18] | psofa: | hmm id like to try commflaging for my recordings.Where do i start from? |
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| [20:05:50] | stuarta: | psofa: kneeling like you are praying |
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| [20:08:19] | Ryushin: | I've been having a weird problem for the last couple of weeks. Most of my shows don't seem to have a seektable associated with them, and fast foward or seeking causes the mythfrontend to lockup and I need to restart the process. I've tried mythcommflag --rebuild and that makes a 1 hour show only 15 minutes long. Then I have to do a transcode -b to rebuild the recording. Anyknow know what is going on? |
| [20:09:10] | stuarta: | your db is corrupted, run mysqlcheck |
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| [20:11:54] | speedsix: | stuarta, do you have any idea why when I use the command "mythfrontend -display :0.1" I get a blue screen with sound when trying to watch live tv (I need myth to start on boot on my second screen hence the -display arg) Thanks |
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| [20:12:27] | stuarta: | speedsix: yes, there is a bug someone pointed out today on -dev |
| [20:12:47] | stuarta: | if you run it as DISPLAY=:0.1 mythfrontend it'll work |
| [20:13:48] | speedsix: | excellent I'll try that, thanks |
| [20:15:52] | speedsix: | stuarta, excellent that works! |
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| [20:29:18] | Ju5k1: | dammit |
| [20:31:05] | gardengnome: | Ju5k1: ? |
| [20:31:30] | ben: | he was hacking |
| [20:31:35] | ben: | I presume he. |
| [20:31:42] | stuarta: | wonder what he broke... |
| [20:32:35] | Ju5k1: | this box just keeps resetting all the time |
| [20:32:50] | ** stuarta tries to decide what to break next.... ** | |
| [20:32:53] | ben: | gah, I can't afford my mythtv system |
| [20:32:58] | Ju5k1: | aha! |
| [20:33:12] | ben: | aha? |
| [20:33:30] | stuarta: | AHA! |
| [20:33:40] | Ju5k1: | got it to boot into CE again.. that's something at least |
| [20:33:49] | Ju5k1: | this thing is a fucking bitch to get into |
| [20:33:59] | Ju5k1: | the BIOS screen literally flashes up briefly |
| [20:34:13] | Ju5k1: | if you don't catch it & press DEL, or you press it too long.. uh-og |
| [20:34:27] | Ju5k1: | I got it – should've disabled quick boot |
| [20:34:50] | gardengnome: | !trout Ju5k1 |
| [20:34:50] | ** MythLogBot slaps Ju5k1 with a trout on behalf of gardengnome... ** | |
| [20:36:11] | ben: | ah |
| [20:36:37] | ben: | how much RAM do I need for a mythfrontend? |
| [20:36:56] | Anonycat: | I have MythTV compiled and installed. mythbackend and mythfrontend are both valid commands. Is there any reason why mythtvsetup wouldn't be valid? |
| [20:37:11] | gardengnome: | Anonycat: mythtv-setup is the name. |
| [20:37:51] | Anonycat: | that's better |
| [20:38:14] | Ju5k1: | here's something. does pin 9 of a vga cable _absolutely_ have to have 5v on it? |
| [20:38:36] | dev: | go fish |
| [20:38:38] | ** dev ducks ** | |
| [20:38:39] | dev: | ;p |
| [20:38:50] | dev: | juski what are you doin now? ;) |
| [20:38:57] | Ju5k1: | "pin 9 auf dem vga muss unbeschaltet bleiben" ? |
| [20:39:11] | dev: | uh.. god bless you |
| [20:39:12] | gardengnome: | Ju5k1: thou shalt not solder anything to pin 9. |
| [20:40:40] | Ju5k1: | or pins 4 and 11 |
| [20:41:19] | xris: | solder = "stay" ? |
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| [20:42:01] | gardengnome: | xris: no. "pin 9 on the vga connector must not be wired" |
| [20:42:07] | Ju5k1: | fuck fuck fuck! |
| [20:42:13] | Ju5k1: | got into the BIOS then it just reset! |
| [20:42:24] | gardengnome: | or, more literal: "must stay unwired" in case you're wondering |
| [20:42:27] | xris: | gardengnome: isn't "bleiben" "to stay"? |
| [20:42:33] | gardengnome: | xris: right |
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| [20:42:54] | gardengnome: | hi dr. nick! |
| [20:43:35] | kormoc: | Ju5k1, http://www.bbdsoft.com/video.html |
| [20:44:18] | Ju5k1: | the vga port _works_ though |
| [20:45:07] | ivor: | Ju5k1: ooh is it 1337 nick day? |
| [20:45:29] | ben: | how much RAM do I need for a mythfrontend? |
| [20:45:41] | Ju5k1: | riiight.. without the vga cable connected it boots up okay :-/ |
| [20:45:48] | Ju5k1: | better check my pinouts |
| [20:45:52] | xris: | ben: my fe + be system has 512M, other people run both with less. |
| [20:45:58] | ben: | ok |
| [20:46:05] | ivor: | lol built a little board you're trying to make self powered? |
| [20:46:08] | ben: | will 256mb suffice for dvb-t? |
| [20:46:20] | Ju5k1: | ben: you can get by with very little, but you're better off with more |
| [20:46:21] | xris: | gardengnome: oh, "must stay unwired".. I get it. |
| [20:46:25] | xris: | my german sucks. |
| [20:46:26] | ben: | ok |
| [20:46:41] | Ju5k1: | ivor: www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/s100/ ;-) |
| [20:46:42] | ivor: | ben: especially since ram's soo cheap |
| [20:46:58] | xris: | Ju5k1: ever fix the opengl menu glitch? |
| [20:47:25] | Ju5k1: | xris: never saw it |
| [20:47:28] | xris: | ick |
| [20:47:34] | xris: | annoying that it's so hard to track down |
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| [20:47:53] | psofa: | anyone having an unresponsive frontend in svn? |
| [20:48:12] | stuarta: | it's working at the moment. |
| [20:48:43] | psofa: | my remote frontend seems to loose its responsiveness to keystrokes between focus changes |
| [20:48:43] | ivor: | Ju5k1: cute. so what are you trying to drive off VGA? |
| [20:49:07] | psofa: | that is if i switch to another xserver or focus to another window |
| [20:49:20] | kormoc: | psofa, what window manager are you using? |
| [20:49:21] | ** stuarta swears at ffmpeg! ** | |
| [20:49:26] | psofa: | kormoc, metacity |
| [20:49:44] | psofa: | stuarta, did you check my unicode stuff? |
| [20:49:53] | stuarta: | nope |
| [20:50:06] | stuarta: | trying to fix ffmpeg, so I can watch BBC HD |
| [20:50:10] | Ju5k1: | ivor: an old monitor. it's a bit slow to lock etc.. rarely even see vga bios screens (before the main PC BIOS) |
| [20:50:15] | psofa: | currently ive skiped it by replacing greek chars with close english |
| [20:50:16] | ivor: | Ju5k1: on the first picture, whats the connector on the flylead off the board? |
| [20:50:21] | Ju5k1: | tried my tft & had no joy with that either |
| [20:50:23] | psofa: | stuarta, is it the interlaced thing? |
| [20:50:28] | Ju5k1: | ivor: keyboard/mouse |
| [20:50:56] | stuarta: | psofa: there's some support for that gone in, but it's forgetting to allocate memory |
| [20:51:01] | Ju5k1: | oh hang on.. 1st picture.. which one? |
| [20:51:04] | psofa: | :( |
| [20:51:13] | ivor: | Ju5k1: ? the wire coming off the middle of the board and going to the middle of the case. |
| [20:51:18] | Ju5k1: | wireless |
| [20:51:20] | ivor: | looks like a wireless lead |
| [20:51:22] | ivor: | heh. |
| [20:51:27] | ivor: | cool. |
| [20:51:31] | Ju5k1: | okees. vga cable checks out juuust fine |
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| [20:55:58] | Ju5k1: | oh gawd.. there's nobody in #zenega either :-/ |
| [20:56:24] | ivor: | wtf is zenega? |
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| [20:57:25] | gardengnome: | ivor: like the s100, just put together by bose. |
| [20:57:37] | ivor: | aha. tx. |
| [20:58:10] | Anonycat: | Is there any way to adjust volume in MythTV? |
| [20:58:30] | Anonycat: | And how do I switch from cable TV input to composite? |
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| [21:00:48] | Ju5k1: | I wonder... if my keyboard is sending out random garbage |
| [21:00:59] | ben: | probably |
| [21:01:15] | ** ben passes one of mouldering pile of ps/2 keyboards to juski ** | |
| [21:01:35] | gardengnome: | he needs USB :) |
| [21:01:43] | ben: | damn. |
| [21:01:54] | ** ben passes brand-new USB keyboard to juski ** | |
| [21:02:04] | ben: | **royal mail deliver it to the next street |
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| [21:04:37] | ben: | and so does mine. |
| [21:04:49] | ben: | my cat's breath, not my breath |
| [21:05:17] | ben: | nor my cat. |
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| [21:07:43] | kormoc: | how do you know? |
| [21:07:49] | gardengnome: | cats rock. but they tend to have bad breath, indeed. |
| [21:09:23] | ben: | hmm |
| [21:09:35] | HeMan: | I have a problem with my saa7134-ir-driver |
| [21:09:59] | HeMan: | it gives the last button pressed and the current button |
| [21:10:10] | HeMan: | somewhat hard to navigate... |
| [21:10:12] | ben: | I'll irritate once more by asking for recommendations for cheap dvb-t cards, as google is not helpful |
| [21:10:57] | HeMan: | any ideas how i can debug that? |
| [21:11:02] | ben: | fraid not |
| [21:11:25] | ben: | my set top box only gives the last button pressed, it is extremely annoying (hence mythtv) |
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| [21:12:36] | kormoc: | ben, might want to check linuxtv.org |
| [21:12:45] | ben: | ok |
| [21:12:47] | ben: | thanks |
| [21:14:12] | Ju5k1: | damn |
| [21:14:21] | Ju5k1: | keyboard adapter is broken |
| [21:14:37] | ben: | there's your problem. |
| [21:14:51] | ben: | kormoc, might I ask which card you have? |
| [21:15:42] | kormoc: | ben, I don't have a dvb card, sorry |
| [21:15:49] | ben: | ah |
| [21:17:00] | Ju5k1: | lol. pin 2 = keyboard dat |
| [21:17:29] | ben: | understandably the amount of 404s on http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_devices_DVB-T is irritating |
| [21:17:38] | Ju5k1: | let this be a lesson to you kids. don't recycle PS2 connectors ;-) |
| [21:18:24] | ben: | :) |
| [21:18:44] | Ju5k1: | god I wish I had a USB keyboard now |
| [21:24:59] | iresprite: | bleargh. |
| [21:25:12] | iresprite: | not about usb keyboard, sorry. |
| [21:29:06] | iresprite: | I was able to get www-data to burn a dvd from the command line using growisofs. |
| [21:29:12] | iresprite: | As root, I executed: |
| [21:29:15] | iresprite: | # su www-data -c `growisofs -Z /dev/dvd /share/mythtv/temp/mythburndvd.iso` |
| [21:30:12] | iresprite: | This burned a disc. |
| [21:30:24] | iresprite: | However, when running mythburn, I get a permissions error. |
| [21:30:30] | iresprite: | This makes little sense to me. |
| [21:35:10] | Anonycat: | How can I adjust volume in MythTV, or change from cable input to composite? |
| [21:35:51] | kormoc: | Anonycat, check the documentation for keyboard shortcuts? |
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| [21:37:39] | b8zs: | yessss, so switching to kernel 2.6.15 and ivtv 4.2 fixed evvvvverything |
| [21:37:52] | b8zs: | thanks for your suggestions everyone ;-) |
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| [21:39:45] | jams: | Anonycat- f10 f11 [ ] c |
| [21:39:50] | iresprite: | oho! I was wrong! |
| [21:40:11] | iresprite: | I used the command that I was *supposed* to use: |
| [21:40:22] | iresprite: | mythtv@bombadil:~/src/mythtv$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/share/mythtv/temp/mythburndvd.iso |
| [21:40:25] | iresprite: | :-( unable to open64("/share/mythtv/temp/mythburndvd.iso",O_RDONLY): Permission denied |
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| [21:40:51] | iresprite: | excellent. Well, I mean, BAD. But good that I got the result that I did in mythburn. Shows I'm not crazy. |
| [21:41:17] | iresprite: | Anyone know why I might be getting this error? Permissions are obviously all correct for the device in question... |
| [21:41:53] | stuarta: | iresprite: permissions are clearly not right... |
| [21:41:56] | iresprite: | hm. on the other hand... |
| [21:42:05] | iresprite: | mythtv@bombadil:~/src/mythtv$ ls -l /share/mythtv/temp/ |
| [21:42:06] | iresprite: | total 0 |
| [21:42:06] | iresprite: | ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /share/mythtv/temp/mythburndvd.iso |
| [21:42:06] | iresprite: | ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /share/mythtv/temp/mythburn.log |
| [21:42:13] | iresprite: | That's... well... not right. |
| [21:42:43] | iresprite: | stuarta: well, you're right. :) |
| [21:43:31] | iresprite: | what could cause that? |
| [21:45:09] | stuarta: | no idea |
| [21:45:33] | stuarta: | hang on, is this mounted off a remote machine? |
| [21:46:07] | dev: | wow ,nice |
| [21:46:08] | iresprite: | no. /share/mythtv is simply an lvm mounted on the same machine. |
| [21:46:40] | Cardoe_work: | xris: http://chrisdaniel.net/etc/gentoodev.jpg |
| [21:46:41] | stuarta: | something isn't right, you shouldn't have no file size etc etc... |
| [21:46:44] | Cardoe_work: | kormoc: http://chrisdaniel.net/etc/gentoodev.jpg |
| [21:46:52] | iresprite: | Yeah, I definitely agree with you. |
| [21:47:40] | jams: | Cardoe_work- that is awesome |
| [21:48:05] | dev: | cardoe we need a new mythtv-fixes ebuild :) |
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| [21:48:16] | dev: | its el-behind-o and stuff |
| [21:48:22] | Cardoe_work: | dev: send me some cizash to finish off my new Myth box |
| [21:48:23] | Cardoe_work: | :-D |
| [21:48:34] | dev: | i just spend 1700$ on my new backend :P |
| [21:48:37] | dev: | im el-poor-o |
| [21:48:38] | dev: | hehe |
| [21:48:40] | Cardoe_work: | I actually just ordered some parts last night |
| [21:48:56] | Cardoe_work: | I'll be pulling down a fixes SVN in the next few days |
| [21:49:01] | Cardoe_work: | I need to know a stable # for head too |
| [21:49:02] | dev: | nice |
| [21:49:32] | dev: | my head has no numbers :( |
| [21:50:07] | dev: | just some ears a nose and some eyeballs. a mouth too |
| [21:50:12] | dev: | ;/ |
| [21:50:44] | kormoc: | Cardoe_work, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/Haha.jpg |
| [21:50:50] | iresprite: | I just pulled down an svn... am scared to use it, though. thehunter.ws ubuntu packages have been working really well... |
| [21:50:58] | psofa: | <dev> i just spend 1700$ on my new backend :P |
| [21:51:02] | psofa: | omg are you serious? |
| [21:51:05] | dev: | yup! |
| [21:51:13] | psofa: | wtf costs 1700! |
| [21:51:21] | Cardoe_work: | :( I got pwnd |
| [21:51:21] | psofa: | just the pc ? |
| [21:51:28] | dev: | dual xeon 2.8ghz, gig of ram, adaptect sata2 hardware raid controller, and 4x300gig seagate sata2's |
| [21:51:37] | psofa: | Oo |
| [21:51:51] | Freman: | ach damn it |
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| [21:51:57] | dev: | im gonna toss another gig in it tho |
| [21:51:58] | kormoc: | Cardoe, hehe, least it's not farked |
| [21:51:58] | Freman: | I tried to upgrade my dvb drivers |
| [21:52:00] | dev: | oh, its dual channel |
| [21:52:08] | Freman: | now I get unresolved symbol errors on both versions |
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| [21:53:06] | psofa: | dev, its a curse.Im also thinking of replacing the current fe/backend box (1200 mhz with one of those famous via 686B mobo's) |
| [21:53:19] | dev: | psofa: its whats called a slipper slope |
| [21:53:21] | iresprite: | oh... huh. it looks like it's back to normal. |
| [21:53:27] | dev: | the more you get into it, the more hardware you require |
| [21:53:31] | psofa: | ye ye |
| [21:53:42] | dev: | i started with a little micro-atx with 1 tuner and a 300gig drive heh |
| [21:53:44] | psofa: | i started it as a dvd player |
| [21:53:49] | psofa: | then got dvb-s |
| [21:53:50] | dev: | now i have 2 backends and 3 frontends |
| [21:53:54] | psofa: | then dvn-t |
| [21:53:59] | psofa: | and now normal analogue |
| [21:54:13] | dev: | im up to 4 tuners now too |
| [21:54:16] | dev: | heh |
| [21:54:19] | Ryushin: | stuarta: sorry for the long delay, it's been a heck of a day. yea, it was corrupted and I did a rebuild on it, and it seemed to have fixed it fine. But I've had power supply problems and it's been hard crashing the myth box. Any other ideas? |
| [21:54:47] | Freman: | get a ups (c: |
| [21:54:47] | stuarta: | Ryushin: now you've fixed the db, the mythcommflag --rebuild will work |
| [21:54:57] | ** psofa patiently waits for the recording to end to see what mythcommflag did ** | |
| [21:55:11] | ** stuarta bets on nothing ** | |
| [21:55:11] | psofa: | im very pessimistic |
| [21:55:14] | dev: | ups wouldnt help a flaky psu |
| [21:55:33] | kormoc: | depends on why it is flaky |
| [21:55:42] | kormoc: | if it's flaky cause the power sucks major ass, sure it might help |
| [21:55:42] | dev: | i wonder how long this box will take to compile mythtv |
| [21:55:54] | Ryushin: | Nope. It still causes the same syptoms. For a 1 hour show, it says it's only 15 minutes long. I have to run mythtranscode -b to rebuild the file. |
| [21:55:54] | psofa: | kormoc, the power cant be so fucked up |
| [21:56:01] | dev: | kormoc: but then its not the psu thats flaky, its the power |
| [21:56:10] | Ryushin: | Unless I'm a complete idiot and I don't know how to run mythcommflag. (which might be the case) |
| [21:56:26] | dev: | i wonder how long this box will take to compile mythtv |
| [21:56:27] | psofa: | maybe a good power triggers less the flakiness |
| [21:56:37] | dev: | i'll disable distcc to see |
| [21:56:45] | psofa: | but still if a psu is doing that shit, its sure that you will have to replace it soon |
| [21:57:10] | psofa: | before it gets something with it |
| [21:57:17] | psofa: | a hd for example :) |
| [21:57:20] | dev: | before it fries your mobo |
| [21:57:33] | psofa: | nah thats hard |
| [21:57:40] | dev: | ive had it happen :( |
| [21:57:53] | dev: | i fried 2 motherboards before i realised it was the psu |
| [21:57:58] | psofa: | Oo |
| [21:58:11] | dev: | and a cpu, but it was unrelated |
| [21:58:17] | psofa: | when something strange happens the first thing i check is the psu |
| [21:58:18] | kormoc: | I had a antec true blue fry a mobo once |
| [21:58:22] | dev: | i was stoned and thought it would be ok to run a tbird with no heatsink for a couple seconds, just to post |
| [21:58:28] | psofa: | they all die because of their dirtiness |
| [21:58:30] | dev: | that shit popped in .0005seconds of pushing the power |
| [21:58:33] | psofa: | too much dust |
| [21:59:04] | psofa: | dev, that was insane |
| [21:59:15] | kormoc: | meh, if my psu dies within 5 years, it gets replaced for free |
| [21:59:19] | dev: | s/insane/royally stupid/ |
| [21:59:48] | kormoc: | So far I got one free psu from them due to a possable defect that I wasn't affected by. |
| [21:59:55] | dev: | nice. |
| [21:59:58] | psofa: | im runnning a tbird with an 80 low speed fan on hs and an 120 fan psu and its 67c |
| [22:00:23] | psofa: | but its still alive after 4 years of hard work |
| [22:00:43] | psofa: | if you have it on summer you will end up dead from the heat |
| [22:00:47] | Ryushin: | stuarta: I've been running the following: mythcommflag --rebuild --file <mythrecording> Thing is, that it complete faster than I would have thought. It processes a 8 GB HD file in under 2 minutes. |
| [22:00:48] | kormoc: | Best part was, they called me up out of the blue, said that my PSU might be affected by a defect, and they were going to send me a replacement one. This was friday at around 8 pm or so. the replacement showed up at the door the next morning. |
| [22:01:04] | kormoc: | and both psu's are running absolutely fine years later |
| [22:01:18] | ** kormoc loves companys that go the extra mile ** | |
| [22:01:40] | psofa: | hmm the recording just ended |
| [22:01:46] | psofa: | will myth do the commflag now? |
| [22:01:52] | psofa: | i see lots of hd activity |
| [22:01:59] | kormoc: | psofa, myth can comflag while it is recording |
| [22:02:05] | stuarta: | it has a cup of tea first normally |
| [22:02:10] | dev: | yeah.. thats what i do |
| [22:02:18] | dev: | so you can skip while youre watching that somethings thats partially recorded |
| [22:02:21] | dev: | real nice. |
| [22:02:30] | dev: | omg english say what |
| [22:02:59] | dev: | i cant switch out my masterbackend until wednesday night, after midnight EST |
| [22:03:03] | dev: | too much freakin tv recording |
| [22:03:04] | dev: | lol |
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| [22:06:45] | Freman: | I try to watch mythtv livetv and the screen goes blank for a few before dropping back to the menu |
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| [22:06:54] | Freman: | I can't see any errors in the backend log or the front end one |
| [22:07:19] | dev: | use --verbose playback while starting mythfrontend and try again |
| [22:07:36] | dev: | oh, and redirect to a log file |
| [22:08:48] | Freman: | I startx from a remote machine, gives me the ability to watch it (c: |
| [22:09:21] | dev: | then change your .xinitrc |
| [22:09:32] | dev: | the point is to get mythfrontend to tell you what the problem is :) |
| [22:09:39] | dev: | by default its pretty quiet. |
| [22:10:49] | psofa: | hmm |
| [22:11:08] | psofa: | how much time does a commflag take on a crappy 1200mhz cpu? |
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| [22:11:16] | psofa: | for an one hour video |
| [22:11:22] | dev: | its more disk io than cpu |
| [22:11:53] | psofa: | dev, has any of your mythbox disks died? |
| [22:11:56] | Freman: | that's all I get |
| [22:11:58] | Freman: | http://pastebin.com/760892 |
| [22:12:06] | dev: | nope |
| [22:12:14] | psofa: | im worried that because of the livetv buffers my disk is gonna die |
| [22:12:24] | psofa: | and alon with it all the linux/myth setup |
| [22:12:28] | kormoc: | why? |
| [22:12:34] | dev: | ive had my entire mythtv setup running off 1 seagate sata drive for 1.5years now |
| [22:12:49] | psofa: | because of the frequency of the disk writes |
| [22:12:50] | dev: | seagates are nice drives. ive only had 1 fail, and it wasnt mine, and it was almost 7years old |
| [22:12:52] | ben: | wow |
| [22:13:01] | psofa: | i mean a normal pc doesnt do that much disk activity |
| [22:13:03] | ben: | who has a dvb-t card? |
| [22:13:09] | psofa: | Beirdo, i do |
| [22:13:10] | psofa: | erm |
| [22:13:15] | psofa: | ben, i do |
| [22:13:17] | stuarta: | me! |
| [22:13:19] | kormoc: | psofa, it's still not that much |
| [22:13:21] | psofa: | damn autocomplete |
| [22:13:30] | dev: | but this is also why im moving everything over to 4x300gig raid5 |
| [22:13:35] | dev: | no more worries. |
| [22:13:49] | ben: | can you recommend something cheap, PCI, and non-kernel-pissing-around-wise configuration? |
| [22:14:05] | kormoc: | psofa, and think about it this way, mtbf is some ungodly large number of hours that it won't matter cause before you get close you'll want larger drives |
| [22:14:31] | psofa: | i hope so :D |
| [22:14:36] | dev: | heats a big killer of drives. keep them cool, you'll be fine |
| [22:14:49] | dev: | that 1 seagate drive is in front of a 120mm fan |
| [22:14:50] | dev: | hehe |
| [22:14:56] | ben: | I am having trouble with choice |
| [22:15:15] | ben: | I need something about £30 if possible, no more than ~£45 |
| [22:16:02] | ben: | (I want to buy two and then upgrade to three) |
| [22:16:57] | stuarta: | spend about 70quid get 300gig |
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| [22:17:26] | ben: | stuarta, who're you talking to? I'm talking about dvb-t cards |
| [22:17:32] | Freman: | verbose playback still isn't telling me squat |
| [22:17:41] | psofa: | ben, my hauppauge nova-t costed around 60euros i think |
| [22:17:46] | psofa: | its ok |
| [22:17:48] | stuarta: | ben: ah, though you were talking disk space :) |
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| [22:18:32] | ben: | psofa, great |
| [22:18:43] | ben: | £40 isn't bad for a brand |
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| [22:20:17] | ben: | tis in dixons for £39.94 for some reason |
| [22:20:38] | ben: | I'll get that one, thanks for the recommendation |
| [22:21:06] | ben: | http://www.dixons.co.uk/product.php?sku=46488 . . . p_id=froogle ? |
| [22:22:10] | ben: | does mythtv have a specific radio functionality? I'd like to record sarah kennedy's show |
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| [22:23:37] | Beirdo: | psofa: I said that like 2 weeks ago :) |
| [22:23:39] | Beirdo: | "I do" |
| [22:23:52] | gardengnome: | ugh |
| [22:24:01] | gardengnome: | heya beirdo. how's things? |
| [22:24:05] | gardengnome is now known as laga | |
| [22:24:05] | psofa: | :) |
| [22:24:07] | ben: | hi |
| [22:24:07] | ** Beirdo chucks a busted wireless router at laga ** | |
| [22:24:14] | ben: | beirdo, heh |
| [22:24:16] | Beirdo: | not too bad at all |
| [22:24:27] | laga: | !trout Beirdo |
| [22:24:27] | ** MythLogBot slaps Beirdo with a trout on behalf of laga... ** | |
| [22:24:36] | Ju5k1: | laga: I got it to boot DSL ! |
| [22:24:37] | Beirdo: | waiting for my wife to get home from work as we are going out |
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| [22:24:54] | ben: | juski, well done. |
| [22:24:55] | laga: | Ju5k1: awesome! |
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| [22:25:13] | Beirdo: | and this office REALLY needs an air conditioner |
| [22:25:15] | Freman: | meyah, run out of battery |
| [22:25:23] | laga: | Beirdo: your wife, huh? :) nice that everything worked out as planned, congratulations! how's marriage? |
| [22:25:26] | Ju5k1: | still no keyboard though. so I chopped the fscking plug off my spare |
| [22:25:32] | Beirdo: | it's great :) |
| [22:25:48] | Ju5k1: | hiya Beirdo. congratulations!! |
| [22:25:57] | ** ben should have joined this channel six months ago, it seems ** | |
| [22:25:59] | Beirdo: | but I waited a LOT longer than most to get married, so I guess I'm odd anyways |
| [22:25:59] | laga: | Ju5k1: note: the front panel and the ps/2 thingie on the mainboard won't work together. IIRC. |
| [22:26:02] | ben: | congrats. |
| [22:26:09] | laga: | heh |
| [22:26:11] | Beirdo: | thank ye :) |
| [22:26:20] | Ju5k1: | what? |
| [22:26:26] | laga: | ben: yep. beirdo is one of the great elder ones. |
| [22:26:36] | Beirdo: | so Canada Post graciously busted my firewall and my asterisk box |
| [22:26:38] | ben: | eek |
| [22:26:41] | Ju5k1: | laga: so I should've unplugged it? oh FFS |
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| [22:26:45] | laga: | Ju5k1: i think you have to unplug the front panel |
| [22:26:53] | Ju5k1: | rofl |
| [22:26:54] | laga: | Ju5k1: not sure, though. |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | so I have to build another OpenBSD firewall |
| [22:27:00] | Ju5k1 is now known as Juski | |
| [22:27:01] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:27:05] | ** ben enters the two tuners into spreadsheet, remaining budget jumps to £275 ** | |
| [22:27:08] | laga: | i thought you were just using the usb stuff :) |
| [22:27:26] | Juski: | laga: if I was using USB I'd have been up & running ages ago |
| [22:27:34] | laga: | Juski: right. :) |
| [22:27:46] | Juski: | and now I have a ps2 keyboard with no plug on it :-/ |
| [22:27:53] | Beirdo: | this time I'm using a Sun Ultra 5 |
| [22:27:55] | laga: | (that's why i was smart and ordered a ps2 to usb convertor. :)) |
| [22:28:01] | Juski: | I'll continue this way |
| [22:28:25] | Beirdo: | and I miss my printer |
| [22:28:29] | ** ben now has to buy all components of a new desktop aside from graphics card, case, monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers and hard disc with £275, and then hopefully have enough left over for a remote ** | |
| [22:28:36] | Beirdo: | no way I was gonna ship a laser printer :) |
| [22:28:59] | laga: | 00:30. alarm set to 6:00. 90 minute class test starting at 7:30. zero knowledge. wish me luck, guys ;) |
| [22:29:06] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [22:29:12] | Beirdo: | you in university now? |
| [22:29:14] | ben: | lasers are good, I hate my inkjet. for some reason its cache is too small to store a single page of postscript so it does one inch every ten seconds. |
| [22:29:17] | laga: | Beirdo: you'll have to buy one! i bet you can buy lots of nice things with your canadian money |
| [22:29:18] | Beirdo: | that was my usual way to do things |
| [22:29:21] | Freman: | http://pastebin.com/760936 <- that's what the backend is giving me |
| [22:29:24] | laga: | Beirdo: naw |
| [22:29:24] | Juski: | good luck!! :-) |
| [22:29:28] | Freman: | still no real clue as to why it's not working |
| [22:29:36] | Beirdo: | laga: we will be buying one soon :) they are cheap now |
| [22:29:43] | SunTzuTech: | anyone have some experience with a newish PVR-150 (with the ir blaster) and 0.19? |
| [22:29:45] | Beirdo: | like $120 at Costco |
| [22:29:47] | Freman: | except for this fromt he client |
| [22:29:47] | Freman: | 2006-06–06 08:27:23.276 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [22:29:48] | Freman: | 2006-06–06 08:27:23.276 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [22:29:58] | kormoc: | Mornin' Mr. Beirdo. |
| [22:30:05] | Beirdo: | heya, kormoc |
| [22:30:19] | laga: | Beirdo: so can we expect you to be around more? |
| [22:30:23] | Beirdo: | tomorrow, I hope to hook up my mess of computers :) |
| [22:30:29] | laga: | ah, hehe :) |
| [22:30:44] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'll be "working from home" to finish a project back in Canada for a bit |
| [22:31:02] | Beirdo: | right now, I'm just using the laptop, her wireless router and a cable modem ;) |
| [22:31:04] | laga: | sounds... lazy. ;) |
| [22:31:21] | Beirdo: | got 5 computers under the table to get going as well |
| [22:31:42] | Beirdo: | and the hard drives from the two busted machines to take out and transfer |
| [22:31:50] | Beirdo: | assuming they didn't get borked too |
| [22:31:53] | laga: | heh |
| [22:32:01] | Beirdo: | they dropped a box it seems |
| [22:32:09] | Beirdo: | broke parts right off the motherboards |
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| [22:32:15] | Beirdo: | and bent the cases |
| [22:32:20] | laga: | Beirdo: is this covered by insurance? |
| [22:32:31] | Beirdo: | I took pictures, and I'll try to get blood out of the stone |
| [22:32:31] | ben: | beirdo is one of these people who has ten different sorts of car, with different engine parts |
| [22:32:33] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [22:32:46] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:32:49] | laga: | Beirdo: looks like you missed all the summer of code stuff. check mythtv.org in case you have no clue what i'm talking about ;) |
| [22:32:51] | Beirdo: | I have many computers :) |
| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | it's not summer yet |
| [22:33:03] | Beirdo: | well it is here |
| [22:33:07] | Beirdo: | but it's always summer here |
| [22:33:09] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:33:18] | Beirdo: | I'll have to take a look soon :) |
| [22:33:22] | laga: | :) |
| [22:33:25] | Beirdo: | I have a month of catching up to do |
| [22:33:50] | laga: | heh |
| [22:33:59] | laga: | just delete mythtv-users... |
| [22:34:22] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:34:25] | Beirdo: | I might |
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| [22:34:30] | ben: | SoC looks like it will be extremely cool |
| [22:34:32] | stuarta: | can't you just get the bot to summarize for you? |
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| [22:35:07] | Beirdo: | -rw------- 1 gjhurlbu mail 47M 2006-06–05 18:24 /var/mail/gjhurlbu |
| [22:35:09] | Beirdo: | OY! |
| [22:35:16] | ben: | I hope that we get one of those releases where it's just speeding stuff up after SoC though, myth is getting a bit slow and heavy, according to linux format. |
| [22:35:16] | Beirdo: | that's gonna take some cleaning |
| [22:35:31] | Beirdo: | bah, what do they know? ;) |
| [22:35:32] | ben: | beirdo, oh dear. :) |
| [22:36:09] | Juski: | linux format don't know shite |
| [22:36:20] | Beirdo: | 1.1M lines in that mailbox |
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| [22:36:38] | Beirdo: | I think it can wait a few more days |
| [22:36:40] | Eureka: | saa7134 117736 0 |
| [22:36:41] | Eureka: | v4l1_compat 13636 1 saa7134 |
| [22:36:41] | Eureka: | ir_kbd_i2c 10124 1 saa7134 |
| [22:36:41] | Eureka: | bttv 200308 |
| [22:36:44] | stuarta: | time to whip up a few procmail rules.... |
| [22:36:48] | psofa: | ah crap |
| [22:36:50] | kormoc: | ben, who is linux format? |
| [22:37:08] | psofa: | i enabled all commflaging options and myth didnt find a single break :( |
| [22:37:11] | ben: | british linux magazine |
| [22:37:12] | Beirdo: | that's living on my linode right now, when it gets onto my real machine, procmail takes care of it well |
| [22:37:15] | stuarta: | kormoc: it's a magazine that doesn't always know what it's talking about. |
| [22:37:22] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [22:37:24] | Beirdo: | too bad I'm on a crappy dynamic IP now |
| [22:37:46] | Juski: | they tend to cover topics as varied as how to set up apache to booting a knoppix cd |
| [22:38:00] | psofa: | lol |
| [22:38:28] | Eureka: | hi, i'm having problems with mythtv-setup, on channels editor --> scan channels --> scan type: there was no video source, no capture card, and scan type : failed to open the card, what gives? |
| [22:38:42] | ben: | juski, yeah, well, my maths teacher was trying to install kubuntu |
| [22:38:48] | jams: | linux magazine is much better then linux format |
| [22:38:58] | ben: | he left out X because he only wanted KDE, that's how stupid he is |
| [22:39:08] | Juski: | laga: you were dead right about the front panel thing |
| [22:39:10] | jams: | bit expensive though |
| [22:39:15] | ben: | then set the GNOME proxy and expected it to work GNU-wide |
| [22:39:16] | Beirdo: | OMG, I think it's raining again. |
| [22:39:25] | Beirdo: | 3 times in 1 month |
| [22:39:29] | kormoc: | Eureka, did you setup the capture card and video sources? |
| [22:39:41] | Eureka: | kormoc, yes |
| [22:40:21] | Eureka: | kormoc, there was no problem on selecting video source, as i have PVR TV 713x which is bt878, it's loaded alright |
| [22:40:24] | Beirdo: | good to see the bot was well-behaved while I was gone |
| [22:40:34] | kormoc: | Beirdo, you should go visit the land of snow before you get bent out of shape over a little rain :) |
| [22:40:46] | Beirdo: | kormoc, you missed the point :) |
| [22:41:01] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:41:04] | kormoc: | Eureka, I beleive that scan is for DVB cards, not bttv/ivtv cards |
| [22:41:12] | kormoc: | Beirdo, no, I got it :P |
| [22:41:20] | ** Beirdo rubs it in ** | |
| [22:41:33] | kormoc: | heh |
| [22:41:52] | Eureka: | kormoc, is that normal if it failed in my situation |
| [22:42:03] | kormoc: | if I ever end up down there, I'm gonna take your little umbrella out of your drink so you'll have a 1/10 chance of getting a watery drink! Ha! take that! :P |
| [22:42:10] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [22:42:16] | Beirdo: | sounds good |
| [22:42:37] | Beirdo: | we should drag our old stove outta the neighborhood so somebody takes it |
| [22:42:47] | Beirdo: | OK, gotta go :) |
| [22:43:03] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [22:43:11] | kormoc: | have fun! :) |
| [22:43:43] | Beirdo: | seeya |
| [22:43:49] | stuarta: | bye |
| [22:43:49] | ben: | I need to go also, sleep required for sodding english exam tomorrow |
| [22:44:01] | laga: | Juski: yeah, the guy who sold me the cable said that in his thread |
| [22:44:02] | Eureka: | what's wrong guys, I'm stuck on mythtv-setup : failed to open the card??? |
| [22:44:06] | ben: | (for those interested, maths and geography went reasonably well today) |
| [22:44:07] | ben: | byee |
| [22:44:10] | ** stuarta has no plans to do any more exams ** | |
| [22:44:16] | laga: | ben: bah! english is overrated. spanish is much harder ;) |
| [22:44:34] | ben: | laga, spanish is like latin compared to esperanto. |
| [22:45:11] | ben: | cxar esperanto estas la plej klara lingvo munde; sed ial gxi estas ne tre granda tiam cxi |
| [22:45:34] | ** laga prefers interlingua ** | |
| [22:45:40] | laga: | at least is can fscking understand it ;) |
| [22:45:53] | ben: | interlingua amuses me. |
| [22:46:13] | ben: | pop over to lernu.net and see if you can work out what I said above |
| [22:46:15] | ben: | bye |
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| [22:46:25] | laga: | <- owned. :/ |
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| [22:47:32] | Juski: | phew! |
| [22:47:59] | laga: | Juski: all workey? |
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| [22:48:59] | _Darthy: | is it possible to open and playback a .bin/.cue svcd-image with xine? |
| [22:49:32] | Juski: | dsl loads up pretty damn fast |
| [22:49:37] | kormoc: | _Darthy, you might want to ask in #xine |
| [22:49:43] | psofa: | S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro IGP -> does this have anything to do with xvmc? |
| [22:49:46] | Juski: | next I need to work out how to actually _do_ stuff |
| [22:49:50] | laga: | Juski: because it's a pretty damn small linux. |
| [22:50:10] | _Darthy: | i have already asked in #xine.. but just a few people there.. and no reply |
| [22:51:28] | laga: | anyways, night guys |
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| [22:54:14] | BSG75: | anyone know how I can get lirc to work under the menu system where it allows you to make dvds? |
| [22:55:23] | BSG75: | it's using nuv2disk.sh I need a hint on either eboxy or nuv2disk entry in the lircrc |
| [22:55:30] | psofa: | S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro IGP.-> is that the famous via thing that can do xvmc? |
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| [22:56:34] | SunTzuTech: | psofa: i think so |
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| [23:08:47] | iresprite: | |
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| [23:10:31] | psofa: | in the mpeg encoders livetv profile theres an option of what kind of stream id like the pvr to produce.Right now its on mpeg.Is there another option that would be beneficial in terms of performace |
| [23:11:09] | kormoc: | not really |
| [23:11:14] | kormoc: | they all perform the same |
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| [23:14:13] | Eureka: | i've been trying to set up mythtv for a few days, no luck on my part, i'm using gentoo, and got the the mythtv-setup part, channel scanner--> failed to open the card, no video source, no capture card, i don't now what to do now |
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| [23:15:50] | stuarta: | Eureka: start at number 1 and work your way through |
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| [23:16:43] | b8zs: | Eureka, what capture card do you havee |
| [23:17:23] | Eureka: | b8zs, PVR TV 713x, bt878 |
| [23:17:55] | Eureka: | stuarta, you can't destroy the shuttle |
| [23:18:20] | stuarta: | huh? |
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| [23:19:38] | b8zs: | Eureka, oh I just got my hauppage card to work, and I have no experience with that card |
| [23:19:39] | b8zs: | sry |
| [23:20:17] | Eureka: | b8zs, is it general kind of setup |
| [23:20:41] | stuarta: | Eureka: have you got it working outside myth? |
| [23:20:55] | b8zs: | what happens when you do #cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [23:21:18] | Eureka: | stuarta, no, |
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| [23:21:47] | stuarta: | right, forget myth until you have it working under linux |
| [23:21:48] | Eureka: | b8zs, to me? |
| [23:22:00] | Eureka: | stuarta, what do you mean? |
| [23:22:40] | stuarta: | if it doesn't work outside myth, then you need to fix that first. |
| [23:22:41] | b8zs: | ya Eureka, do let that command run for a while and then do ctrl+c |
| [23:23:02] | Eureka: | b8zs, it's been a while, what's next? |
| [23:23:02] | b8zs: | then see if you can watch test.mpg with mplayer |
| [23:23:34] | b8zs: | or just ls -la test.mpg to see if it has any data |
| [23:24:02] | b8zs: | also pastebin your dmesg output along with lsmod |
| [23:25:38] | Eureka: | b8zs, rw-r--r-- 1 root root 118886400 Jun 5 19:25 test.mpg |
| [23:26:10] | stuarta: | okay, that means something is working |
| [23:26:55] | Eureka: | b8zs, dmesg: http://pastebin.com/761044, lsmod: http://pastebin.com/761046 |
| [23:27:05] | Eureka: | stuarta, I hope |
| [23:27:44] | achew22: | when I start lircd it says "lircd: lircd(hauppauge) ready" but when I start irw it then errors by saying "lircd: could not get file information for /dev/lirc" does anyone know what causing this? |
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| [23:27:58] | Ryushin: | Okay, I have some time to work on this problem now. Any idea on what is causing my fast forward problem and the lack of seek tables? Stuarta, you suggested rebuilding my database and I did that yesterday and the problem still continues. Should I drop a table and recreate it? |
| [23:28:25] | xris: | Ryushin: mythcommflag --help |
| [23:28:30] | stuarta: | Ryushin: are these recent recordings.. |
| [23:28:38] | b8zs: | Eureka: tveeprom 0–0050: Huh, no eeprom present (err=-121)? is not good |
| [23:28:39] | Ryushin: | Yea, within the last two weeks. |
| [23:28:41] | achew22: | GreyFoxx: do you have any ideas? |
| [23:28:48] | Ryushin: | The older stuff seems fine. |
| [23:29:17] | Ryushin: | xris: yea, I've gone through that in detail. Searched the mailing lists, etc. |
| [23:29:22] | Eureka: | b8zs, what's causing it? |
| [23:29:46] | GreyFoxx: | achew22: I haven'ted been reading the channel, so I have no idea what it is you are asking ) |
| [23:29:59] | GreyFoxx: | that was mydaughter hittingthe keyboard |
| [23:30:06] | xris: | Ryushin: mythcommflag --rebuild |
| [23:30:18] | achew22: | ohh |
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| [23:30:29] | achew22: | GreyFoxx: aren't you the lirc god? |
| [23:30:36] | GreyFoxx: | Hell no |
| [23:30:40] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use lirc |
| [23:30:45] | b8zs: | Eureka, looks like you will need msp3400 and tda9887 modules |
| [23:31:13] | b8zs: | # |
| [23:31:13] | b8zs: | bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... not found |
| [23:31:13] | b8zs: | # |
| [23:31:13] | b8zs: | bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found |
| [23:31:13] | b8zs: | # |
| [23:31:14] | b8zs: | bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found |
| [23:31:14] | Eureka: | b8zs, i saw it right here on the lsmod: tveeprom 17680 1 bttv |
| [23:31:16] | b8zs: | # |
| [23:31:18] | b8zs: | bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9887 @ 0x86... not found |
| [23:31:20] | Ryushin: | xris: yea, done that too. It makes the video an hour long, only 15 minutes long. I have to use transcode -b and the couple of hours it takes to rebuild the HD file in order to see the whole recording again. Though, the transcode still doesn't fix the fast forward. |
| [23:31:50] | b8zs: | Eureka, ya i had the same problem, tveeprom was loaded but not seeing my card |
| [23:31:59] | b8zs: | so i downgraded my kernel and my card drivers and it worked like a charm |
| [23:32:01] | Ryushin: | I'm wondering if I just just update myth svn again. I updated it on Sunday morning to try and fix this problem. |
| [23:32:02] | kormoc: | b8zs, please don't spam the channel in the future... |
| [23:32:03] | Eureka: | b8zs, are those modules under the multimedia |
| [23:32:07] | xris: | Ryushin: sounds like a corrupt recording |
| [23:32:17] | Eureka: | sorry, kormoc |
| [23:32:18] | b8zs: | sry kormoc, thought i had on 1 line :/ |
| [23:32:31] | kormoc: | heh, tis okay, just reminding people nicely |
| [23:32:48] | Eureka: | no next time, thanks kormoc |
| [23:32:53] | achew22: | Greyfox: this was my question when I start lircd it says "lircd: lircd(hauppauge) ready" but when I start irw it then errors by saying "lircd: could not get file information for /dev/lirc" does anyone know what causing this? |
| [23:33:11] | Eureka: | b8zs, do i have to recompile the kernel with those modules enabled? |
| [23:33:15] | xris: | achew22: lirc kernel module installed? |
| [23:33:18] | b8zs: | Eureka, yes |
| [23:33:22] | achew22: | xris: as far as I can tell |
| [23:33:27] | b8zs: | Eureka, what kernel version are you using |
| [23:33:29] | achew22: | xris: is there any check for that? |
| [23:33:41] | Eureka: | b8zs, latest one, 2.16 |
| [23:33:41] | xris: | achew22: depends on your package manager, or if you built your own kernel |
| [23:33:52] | b8zs: | Eureka, i reccomend going with 2.15 |
| [23:34:00] | Eureka: | b8zs, how come |
| [23:34:15] | b8zs: | I dont know, i2c issues with 2.16 im guessing |
| [23:34:37] | ** kormoc is amused by the lack of a minor version number ** | |
| [23:34:37] | Dagmar: | I'm not having any problems with 2.6.16.19 |
| [23:34:41] | Eureka: | b8zs, let me recompile the kernel with those and see what happens |
| [23:34:50] | b8zs: | compiled 2.15 and BAM |
| [23:34:52] | b8zs: | working card |
| [23:35:06] | kormoc: | b8zs, I would imagine you mean 2.6.15 :) |
| [23:35:11] | b8zs: | oops |
| [23:35:12] | b8zs: | yes |
| [23:35:18] | Eureka: | b8zs, do you know where those modules are under?, off hand |
| [23:35:21] | ** xris was wondering where b8zs got a kernel from the future ** | |
| [23:35:41] | achew22: | b8zs how is the future? |
| [23:35:41] | Dagmar: | You're using ivtv 0.6.2, yes? |
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| [23:36:03] | Dagmar: | 0.6.2 is specifically for 2.6.16.x |
| [23:36:05] | b8zs: | i think those are under device drivers -> i2c -> miscellanious chip |
| [23:36:08] | achew22: | xris: what should I do to figure out if I have the modules installed? |
| [23:36:17] | b8zs: | let me check... |
| [23:36:30] | Dagmar: | So if you were using 0.6.1, of course it's not going to work with 2.6.16 |
| [23:36:33] | xris: | achew22: what did I just say? |
| [23:36:45] | achew22: | you asked me if I had the modules installed — I asked how do I check that |
| [23:36:53] | xris: | after that |
| [23:36:57] | Dagmar: | `modinfo modulename` |
| [23:37:18] | achew22: | "filename: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23–686/misc/lirc_i2c.ko" |
| [23:37:24] | achew22: | yeah — I think I have it installed |
| [23:37:46] | Eureka: | b8zs, i didn't see the ones you pointed out |
| [23:38:12] | kormoc: | achew22, that's the i2c lirc interface, yes, but do you have the other modules? |
| [23:38:28] | Eureka: | b8zs, it got PCA.., PCF.., EEPROM reader, MAX6875 |
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| [23:38:46] | xris: | achew22: looks like it. |
| [23:38:47] | scottder: | Anyone her using a Harmony remote with their mythtv? |
| [23:39:11] | achew22: | kormoc: what other module? |
| [23:39:12] | xris: | achew22: I really don't know all that much about lirc.. but I've experienced that it segfaults when you try to access it and it's configured wrong. |
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| [23:39:39] | kormoc: | lirc_dev likely |
| [23:40:26] | kormoc: | achew22, ooh, just in case, you shut down the frontend before you ran irw, right? |
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| [23:41:52] | b8zs: | Eureka, im still looking through my .config |
| [23:41:57] | b8zs: | im not sure how i got them :P |
| [23:42:02] | achew22: | kormoc: yes |
| [23:42:27] | Eureka: | b8zs, ok |
| [23:42:34] | b8zs: | Eureka, i think my ivtv driver came with them, but there in the kernel somewhere |
| [23:42:36] | achew22: | kormoc: "filename: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23–686/misc/lirc_dev.ko" |
| [23:42:41] | xris: | achew22: locate lirc_dev.ko |
| [23:42:49] | xris: | achew22: lsmod | grep lirc |
| [23:43:02] | achew22: | check out that ESP — I knew someone would ask for the location of lirc_dev.ko |
| [23:43:07] | b8zs: | Eureka: /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko |
| [23:43:14] | b8zs: | I/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1/kernel/drivers/media/video/tda9887.ko |
| [23:43:17] | b8zs: | you need those |
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| [23:43:38] | Eureka: | b8zs, got you, can't find them |
| [23:43:38] | achew22: | xros: its " /lib/modules/2.6.15-23–686/misc/lirc_dev.ko" |
| [23:43:49] | achew22: | xris: sorry typo on line above |
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| [23:44:26] | xris: | achew22: lsmod is something else |
| [23:44:37] | achew22: | xris: I'm sorry? |
| [23:45:02] | Eureka: | b8zs, it's there |
| [23:45:10] | kormoc: | achew22, he asked you for two things |
| [23:45:23] | Eureka: | b8zs, http://pastebin.com/761087 |
| [23:45:28] | achew22: | ohh |
| [23:46:37] | achew22: | xris: http://pastebin.com/761095 |
| [23:47:04] | xris: | achew22: you missed the "grep lirc" bit, but that's fine... so your modules are loaded. |
| [23:47:10] | achew22: | sorry |
| [23:47:13] | xris: | on to the next thing to test.. and I have no clye |
| [23:47:15] | xris: | clue |
| [23:47:22] | achew22: | what do I do now? |
| [23:47:47] | b8zs: | try modprobe tda9887 |
| [23:47:53] | b8zs: | and msp3400 |
| [23:48:05] | b8zs: | and put them in your /etc/modules.autoload/2.6 file |
| [23:48:13] | achew22: | b8zs is that for me? |
| [23:48:20] | b8zs: | sry for Eureka |
| [23:48:36] | Eureka: | b8zs, ok |
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| [23:49:54] | achew22: | xris: do you have any ideas on what do to? |
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| [23:50:07] | xris: | I said "I have no clue" |
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| [23:50:10] | Eureka: | b8zs, still got the failed to open the card |
| [23:50:23] | achew22: | xris: I didn't get that message... |
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| [23:50:54] | b8zs: | hmmm |
| [23:51:11] | kormoc: | achew22, you really should get a different ISP then, or take some more time to read |
| [23:51:19] | b8zs: | have you read atleast 4 howto guides on how to install your card? |
| [23:51:46] | Eureka: | b8zs, on gentoo doc? |
| [23:52:11] | psofa: | im getting lots of prebuffering pauses in fast motion and im wondering what kind of pci latency problem is that? |
| [23:52:21] | psofa: | do i need to up the ide latency? |
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| [23:52:27] | psofa: | the video latency? |
| [23:52:35] | psofa: | the sound latency? or the tuner latency? |
| [23:53:19] | kormoc: | psofa, uhh, prebuffering pauses is when it can't play fast enough, say the hard drive isn't fast enough or the cpu isn't fast enough to decode it. it's not related to latencys likely |
| [23:53:44] | psofa: | kormoc, ok . strange thing is the cpu usage stays at 15% |
| [23:53:46] | b8zs: | Eureka, any docs; ones pertaining to specific installs with your card,kernel etc |
| [23:54:01] | b8zs: | took me a day or two of reading to get it right |
| [23:54:32] | kormoc: | psofa, are your drives fast enough? |
| [23:54:37] | _cmorgan: | if I dd between video0 and video16 i get audio(and likely video if alpha wasn't 0), but myth isn't recording or playing back with audio. it was working earlier today too :-P |
| [23:54:38] | Eureka: | b8zs, i'm lack of info |
| [23:54:50] | psofa: | kormoc, they are 7200 rpm |
| [23:54:57] | psofa: | dma is on |
| [23:55:05] | psofa: | lemme do a disk benchmark |
| [23:55:42] | psofa: | kormoc, /dev/hda: |
| [23:55:42] | psofa: | Timing cached reads: 788 MB in 2.01 seconds = 392.72 MB/sec |
| [23:55:42] | psofa: | Timing buffered disk reads: 128 MB in 3.03 seconds = 42.18 MB/sec |
| [23:55:57] | kormoc: | fair nuff |
| [23:56:22] | psofa: | so whats wrong? |
| [23:56:25] | b8zs: | Eureka, just do a search for your "cardname" and "linux" |
| [23:56:31] | psofa: | cpu usage is really low |
| [23:56:50] | Eureka: | b8zs, thanks |
| [23:57:42] | kormoc: | psofa, well, something is slowing down the playback, you could check videocard/output device and/or network (if you use it via the network) |
| [23:57:55] | psofa: | kormoc, no network |
| [23:58:11] | psofa: | video output is an fx5200 |
| [23:59:08] | kormoc: | XvMC? |
| [23:59:40] | psofa: | kormoc, yes xvmc |
| [23:59:44] | psofa: | but on standard |
| [23:59:46] | kormoc: | try disabling it |
| [23:59:54] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow ** | |
| [23:59:54] | psofa: | it doesnt say prebuffering pause |
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