Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Wednesday, May 24th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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xris:

mocker: I can't wait until it stabilizes and nvidia starts putting official support for it in their drivers

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daxxar:

lazyeye, all directions

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mocker:

xris: I'm just now using it on my home machine.

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mocker:

I was blown away.

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mocker:

Because this machine is a crappy system anyway.

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BULLE:

daxxar: its overscan

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mocker:

And the effects are pretty snappy.

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daxxar:

BULLE, mkay?

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BULLE:

daxxar: on a normal tv, you dont have any black borders etc ? right, thats because even normal tv uses overscan, eg, the pictures is slighltly larger then the screen, so you dont see any annoying black borders

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BULLE:

daxxar: if you havea new enough graphicscard, you can adjust the overscan, atleast nvidia cards can do that

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BULLE:

daxxar: so the picture exactly fits your tvs screen

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daxxar:

Using a VIA Epia machine

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daxxar:

M10000, onboard video

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xris:

mocker: yeah. I can't wait that stuff to become mainstream

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BULLE:

daxxar: sorry, i have no idea if via tvout supports the adjustment of overscan

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xris:

daxxar: you probably want to make sure you're running with xvmc acceleration.

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xris:

but your video card *should* have some kind of overscan setting.

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xris:

though if it's already overscanning, I think you can tell mythtv to underscan to make things fit better. should be in the appearance settings in the frontend.

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BULLE:

xris: most optimal way would be to fix the overscan via graphics card settings, but your solution might be a backup solution

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xris:

BULLE: of course

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daxxar:

xris, where do I check that? Can't find anything in minimyth.conf.

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xris:

daxxar: xvmc is compiled into myth.. if it is, you'll see the option in the tv playback settings (it's hardware acceleration, not related to your overscan issue)

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daxxar:

Ah, okay.

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lazyeye:

to setup a remote did anyone have to do anything in mythsetup specific to that remote

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BULLE:

yes

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BULLE:

i had to put a lircrc file in my .mythtv dir

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lazyeye:

yeah i did that ;-/

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BULLE:

first a lircd.conf for the deamon, it goes in /etc or /etc/lircd or similar

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lazyeye:

i'm not using lircd

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BULLE:

oh

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lazyeye:

but as far as mythtv is concerned

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lazyeye:

i am

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BULLE:

exactly what are you using ?

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lazyeye:

ati remote wonder (the original one)

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lazyeye:

on freebsd

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BULLE:

oh, i have no clue at all then, sorry

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lazyeye:

well i can run irw

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lazyeye:

and it sees the button clicks fine

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lazyeye:

when mythtv starts up, it connects to the socket correctly

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BULLE:

after that, all ihad to do was to add a lircrc file

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BULLE:

to the .mythtv dir

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lazyeye:

did you just use the sample one?

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BULLE:

lazyeye: there is no single sample one

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BULLE:

lazyeye: you need to use one that is setup for your remote

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BULLE:

lazyeye: atleast no single saple one that works everywhere

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BULLE:

s/saple/sample/

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lazyeye:

well i realize that, so i took the 'default' sample one and edited one of the buttons to see if i could make it work

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lazyeye:

but its not

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BULLE:

you sure you matched the names of the buttons properly ?

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JoeyJoeJo:

I've got directv, and it's guide has nice catagories. If I want movies, I click the movies catagory and it takes me to the movie channels.. is there a way to do this in mythtv?

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lazyeye:

well BULLE all i tested was the power button and i'm positive i matched that correctly

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lazyeye:

however i tried using irxevent and it was not working either so i'm really not 100% sure what my problem is right now

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BULLE:

lazyeye: well, very simple, waht do you get from irw when you hit the power button ?

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lazyeye:

i'm grabbing the correct config for my remote right now, maybe that will help

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BULLE:

sounds like a good plan

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lazyeye:

0x4782 91 Power lamelirc

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lazyeye:

thats when i hit the power button

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lazyeye:

lamelirc is what the remote is being called right now

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JoeyJoeJo:

is there a way to use the apple remote in mythtv?

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lazyeye:

lol they don't even have a config file for my remote

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dscoular:

lazyeye, you can use irrecord

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dscoular:

to generate a lircd.conf

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lazyeye:

i already basically have it taken care of, i'm just having problems with the lircrc

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dscoular:

hmm, BULLE is right should be easy with irw

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lazyeye:

yeah thats what gets me

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lazyeye:

irw is spitting out the right data

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lazyeye:

but myth is not doing anything

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hadees:

anyone here use the niveus remote? i can't get it to work under the kernel 2.6.15

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hadees:

but it works fine under 2.6.12

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dscoular:

lazyeye, you'll need to restart the front-end perhaps

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lazyeye:

yeah i've been completely restarting x

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lazyeye:

every time i tested it

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** dscoular realises he's being a back-seat driver **

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lazyeye:

any ideas are good ideas at this point, lol

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dscoular:

mythtv was compiled with native lirc ?

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lazyeye:

yeah

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dscoular:

wow... that's weird.

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dscoular:

if irw gets it myth should get it

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dscoular:

is it all keys ?

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lazyeye:

you know, i've only configured the power so far

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lazyeye:

i think i'll try some other ones

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lazyeye:

power should work... but who knows

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dscoular:

the power key is dead on my nova-t coz of the stupid driver

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dscoular:

you do have "prog = mythtv" in your stanzas ?

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lazyeye:

i love you

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lazyeye:

very very much

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lazyeye:

i had prog = mythfrontend

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lazyeye:

haha

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lazyeye:

wow

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lazyeye:

yeah that fixed it

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** dscoular blushes and looks at shoes **

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Vme:

i used the NVIDIA-Linux-x86–1.0-8762-pkg1.run shell script to install the Nvida drivers and it worked really well, however, i'm worried about when i recompile my kernel? I don't see a module installed in /usr/src/modules?

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JoeyJoeJo:

Vme: look in /lib/modules for the module

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Vme:

yea

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Vme:

its in there

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JoeyJoeJo:

and I think when you reinstall the kernel, just re-run the script

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Vme:

yea

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Vme:

but i was trying to get around that

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Vme:

hrm

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JoeyJoeJo:

oh, thats the only way I know how to do it

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AngryElf:

is there any reason why i can't use cat /dev/vido -> file to record from a VCR? just tune to channel 3 and go?

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AngryElf:

i suppose typoing the device would be a good reason why i couldn't

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JoeyJoeJo:

yeah, you could do that

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BULLE:

AngryElf: you can do that if you want

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BULLE:

AngryElf: its just not the most userfriendly way

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AngryElf:

since i already have ivtv setup that's probably the easiest way to go to digitize some VHS right?

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JoeyJoeJo:

thats the best way I know of to do it

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SirFunk:

hey has anyone ever had a problem with their mythweb being like.. 2 hours behind their mythtvfrontend?

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SirFunk:

like shows that are actually on at 9, mythweb says are on at 11, and will schedule them as such

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JoeyJoeJo:

is the time on your backend correct?

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JoeyJoeJo:

I think you can use the date command to check the time

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SirFunk:

yup it is

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SirFunk:

the frontend and backend and mythweb are all on the same machine

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JoeyJoeJo:

well, I'm out of ideas

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SirFunk:

hmm.. how about this, is there a way to de-interlace on record?

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Vme:

well

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Myshkin:

hello all. I have half a mythtv box set up. I can watch videos I copy, bu tI am having trouble getting the recording to work. I just get fuzz (with sound).

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Vme:

can i use my Nexus-s remote for Myth?

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Myshkin:

i have been trying to use ivtv-tune, with no love.

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Myshkin:

it looks like it sets the channel properly.

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Myshkin:

I have the cable running from the wall directly into my pvr150-MCE card

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Myshkin:

is that correct? or do I need to have the cable go to the set-top box and another cable go to the PVR-150MCE?

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shiznix:

SirFunk: iirc, in the channel editor, you can specify extra video filters such as those listed here -> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-10.html

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shiznix:

so for de-interlace on recording of that channel, you could specify 'linearblend'

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lazyeye:

don't suppose anyone else here is running freebsd

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a1fa|64:

this is so lame

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a1fa|64:

i cant send 2 gb file from my mythtv box to my desktop

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a1fa|64:

they are on the same switch

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a1fa|64:

100mbps full duplex

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a1fa|64:

and my transfer rate is at 100 kb/.s

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a1fa|64:

how lame is that

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a1fa|64:

thanks linksys

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a1fa|64:

brb

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SirFunk:

grr.. why does deteching commercials take so long.. it's not even uysing 100% cpu

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dscoular:

SirFunk, I imagine it runs at a "nice"d level

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SirFunk:

*checks

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dscoular:

main.cpp: nice(17);

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dscoular:

if jobQueueCPU < 2

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dscoular:

also, beNice seem to default to true which sets nice(17) as well

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dscoular:

not sure how it's invoked by mythbackend

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xris:

SirFunk: man renice

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xris:

or just run it manually — second instance won't trip over the original (they'll both run and get more work done faster)

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dscoular:

or disable commercial flagging and create your own userjob with --hogcpu

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SirFunk:

anyone have any recomendations on a good $50–80 tv cap card?

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SirFunk:

right now i'm using a 1st gen Hauppauge win tv PCI :-D

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SirFunk:

the quality just sucks

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Cardoe:

ugh

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Cardoe:

I can't figure out my ivtv issue

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abarbaccia:

hey all – quick question about mythtv HDTV setup – you have a cable line and want QAM channels – does it need to go to a cable box first or straight from the wall to the cap card

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GreyFoxx:

depends on what card you have and if your channels are encrypted

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GreyFoxx:

if the card is capable of QAM, AND the channels are not encrypted (or just some of them are not encrypted) you can plug directly in

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GreyFoxx:

if they are encrypted you will need to go through a STB of some sort

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abarbaccia:

GreyFoxx: well, i have a QAM capable capture card (almost positive – checking right now) but i get a whole lot of "tuning failed" messages when scanning for cahnnels

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abarbaccia:

i don't get it

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abarbaccia:

GreyFoxx: but going through the STB then to the HDTV card is not the way things are typically run, correct?

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GreyFoxx:

correct

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GreyFoxx:

does the STB have Firewire out ?

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abarbaccia:

GreyFoxx: yeah, but i'm working on a box for my parent's house

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abarbaccia:

and theirs doesn't

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GreyFoxx:

people who go through a STB and are not using firewire

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GreyFoxx:

generally just use a 250/150 connected to the STB

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GreyFoxx:

since they wont be getting HD out of the analog outputs of the stb :)

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abarbaccia:

GreyFoxx: right, but they want their shows in HD (like the TNT CBS etc)

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abarbaccia:

i have a 150 in the box already

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abarbaccia:

they want HD so i told them i'd get it working and bring it home for them...

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GreyFoxx:

then you better hope the signal is either unencrypted, or they switch the box for 1 with firewire

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GreyFoxx:

Unless of course the channels are available OTA

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SlicerDicer-:

hello everybody

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B-link:

hi

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SlicerDicer-:

YARRRR!

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SlicerDicer-:

oops

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SlicerDicer-:

wrong channel

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SlicerDicer-:

haha

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** SlicerDicer- sneeks away quietly **

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Tanthrix:

I seem to have a problem with scheduled recordings disappearing....

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B-link:

is it supposed to do this:

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B-link:

mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv";

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B-link:

Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)

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Tanthrix:

Previously recorded programs are all still there, as well as currently recorded.

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Tanthrix:

Restarting mythbackend seems to fix it, but this is the second time I've noticed it happening now. Any thoughts anyone?

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cesman:

if restart the backend resolves this, I'd say start looking in the backend log for clues

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cesman:

you may also want to ensure the db isn't corrupted

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GreyFoxx:

What does his patch do ?

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abarbaccia:

GreyFoxx: when i run one of the channel scans for my dvb card it comes up with 239 listings! is this just the same channels repeated in multiple frequencies?

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AngryElf:

i forgot how to test mysql access from a remote host from the command line, can someone fill me in?

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xris:

AngryElf: -h ?

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AngryElf:

thanx xris

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Sphires:

l

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ivor:

daxxar: no there's no 'fine control' of overscan yet, you just have to choose different modes (720x576Noscale should be pretty good).

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Juski:

morning

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Merlin83b:

Hi, Juski

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Juski:

how's it going Merlin83b ?

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gardengnome:

morning

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Juski:

morning gardengnome

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Merlin83b:

Kanckeredly. Servers misbehaving last night meant less sleep than I'd aimed for.

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gardengnome:

heh. not enough sleep sucks. *yawn*

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Juski:

I need to start looking at efficiency of my machines at home

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Juski:

for the amount of commflagging & stuff I do I may aswell get a lower powered machine with integrated (shitty) graphics ;-)

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gardengnome:

what about an s100? :)

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Juski:

oh and be careful it doesn't cost me more than it saves :-P

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gardengnome:

heh

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Juski:

can you have a MBE that doesn't have any encoders?

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gardengnome:

yep

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gardengnome:

i think so, at least

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Juski:

thinking low powered MBE, webserver, always on.. wakes up the SBE

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Merlin83b:

Sounds cool.

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Juski:

I'd already be using the power saving features of mythtv if I didn't need the backend box on all the time. frontend kinda relies on it... so does my scheduling

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gardengnome:

maybe i'm gomma implement the WOL stuff on my wrt54g so i can have my boxen shutdown most of the time. but that'D suck because my main server holds all my music

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Juski:

heheh

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ivor:

Juski: build a wind turbine on your roof?

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RancidLM:

hey all

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RancidLM:

im woundering if myth-tv will do the following .. i want to set up a way that i can watch tv remotely in a window from a PVR that i can switch channels remotely ..record.. etc.. ?

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dscoular:

RancidLM, mythtv is a client/server design... so yes... you run mythfront anywhere (with enough bandwidth) and it controls mythbackend (that has the capture cards)

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dscoular:

RancidLM, you can actually have multipled frontends and a master backend with slave backends.

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dscoular:

RancidLM, a backend, be it slave or master, is just a box that has capture cards.

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RancidLM:

dscoular: iv used a little of myth.. do i have to run the front end full screen on a client? because i would like to use the pc while watching the tv?

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dscoular:

RancidLM, you have the option of running it in a window

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RancidLM:

dscoular: ok thanks for the info! :)

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dscoular:

no worries

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stuarta:

morning all

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Merlin83b:

Morning stuarta

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stuarta:

another stdint fix went in last night

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dscoular:

Is frontend input lock up common for 0.19-fixes svn ?

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Captain_Murdoch:

do you have slave backends?

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dscoular:

no

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dscoular:

I have a single box frontend/backend.

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Captain_Murdoch:

ok, nothing that I know of then. there was a discussion about a problem but the only confirmed cases were when you had a slave backend.

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dscoular:

It's strange... I can't even use the telnet port to jump to other screens

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dscoular:

so people are generally experiencing good frontend stability on 0.19-fixes svn ?

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Captain_Murdoch:

this was a backend issue that would cause things like the watch recordings screen to not work. you should try the debugging instructions in the HOWTO.

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dscoular:

ok

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Captain_Murdoch:

as far as I know. I ran it for weeks without any issues.

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dscoular:

thanks, I'll go down the debugging route

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asd26:

hail

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Hoxzer:

2006-05–24 13:00:03.577 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost

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Hoxzer:

nice: tv_grab_fi: Permission denied

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Hoxzer:

How could I allow mythfilldatabase to acces it?

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stuarta:

check the permissions on tv_grab_fi

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Hoxzer:

well, I chowned it to the mythtv

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stuarta:

is it executable?

[10:03:51]

Hoxzer:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 15261 May 23 2004 tv_grab_fi

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stuarta:

no it's not. have a read of chmod manpage

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asd26:

what a HACK, running svideo out to dvd-recorder then going out in compoment out to the TV

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ivor:

yeah, that's indefensible.

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Merlin83b:

THanks stuarta (for what you told me an hour ago) I'll have a go at compiling again :-)

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stuarta:

sounds like the exact same change you made yesterday

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Hoxzer:

HGmmm... seems like tv_grab_fi is broken or something

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asd26:

mythtv volume control doesn't seem to decrease the volume

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qu0zl:

are you using digital out asd26? if you are then the software volume controls probably won't affect it, as it's just the raw signal out

[10:25:57]

qu0zl:

do your normal desktop volume controls affect it?

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asd26:

qu0zl nope

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asd26:

i'll have to see

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asd26:

it work before,

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qu0zl:

the mixer device is specified somewhere in mythtv setup i think, you could double check that. but i doubt that's the problem :(

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asd26:

qu0zl i can set the volume in mythtv settings, when it comes to real time control, it doesn't work even volume at 0

[10:37:23]

dscoular:

so volume control works outwith mythtv, in xine, mplayer and pals ?

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asd26:

i just a time shift on an american troop car being blown up and the soilder fly in the air for like 20 meters

[10:42:38]

i686:

:)

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asd26:

sbs

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i686:

i've just turned my mythtv box off..

[10:44:11]

asd26:

i686 u got HD card?

[10:44:44]

i686:

nah, my trusty old winfast tv 2000 xp card..

[10:44:51]

i686:

i got it at the fair years ago..

[10:45:29]

asd26:

go nashy, u could use it as remote control thing..like me..lol

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asd26:

isn't analogy cards harder on CPU?

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i686:

yeah, no decoder on it..

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i686:

i'd like to get a digital card..

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asd26:

i686 $83 dollars at the fair

[10:47:37]

asd26:

i need to get another one, so i can record two things at once

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i686:

thats for a digital card..?!

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asd26:

yeah from the fair :P

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asd26:

HD :)

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i686:

nice..

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i686:

fair this sunday..

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asd26:

mine works fine, but remote is the only problem

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asd26:

mine is winfast leadtech DTV1000T

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asd26:

need to fix the volume..ahh

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i686:

cout << "hello world" << endl;

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i686:

:)

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asd26:

35GB left on my HD

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i686:

i have a 40gb in mine..

[11:03:09]

johnp_:

stuarta, if you're around, I couldn't reproduce the scanning problem, I'm putting it down to cruft in my db.

[11:03:24]

i686:

i think i'm going to leave mythtv for a while though, i need a better pc for it.. :/

[11:03:49]

asd26:

dscoular need to still fix that au_grab issue

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asd26:

i686 what cpu u have?

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stuarta:

johnp_: okay cool

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i686:

asd26: p2 450, 384mb ram.. :<

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hashbang:

ow

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i686:

i'm probably going to get a new pc soon and once i change the pc's around here, i'll turn this p4 1.7 into mythtv..

[11:04:51]

hashbang:

i686: I've got 2xDVB-T on a Celeron 1.7 w/ 512M and a Geforce 440MX working well here. So you don't need much.

[11:05:12]

asd26:

my 1333 AMD does about 33% CPU one recording

[11:05:31]

i686:

is there anyway to turn off the livetv buffering..?

[11:05:35]

asd26:

i think i can still configure it for i686

[11:05:45]

i686:

i think if thats turned off, my tv image will be smooth..

[11:06:04]

hashbang:

i686: live TV is only buffered if you're watching liveTV.

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asd26:

hashbang i guess all those old tv-out gf4's have some use after ..all..lol

[11:06:34]

hashbang:

i686: also, look into XvMC (maybe it'll work for you) and realtime scheduling

[11:06:47]

hashbang:

asd26: I use a homebrew VGA->RGB SCART

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asd26:

i686 u need nvidia card for that i htink

[11:06:57]

hashbang:

composite out is teh sux0r.

[11:07:14]

asd26:

hashbang u know how to a compment?

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asd26:

RGB to compoment?

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asd26:

would be very interesting

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hashbang:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/kd-vtca2.htm

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hashbang:

google 'vga to component'

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asd26:

such a lovely price

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hashbang:

well, if I cost the time I took to build my VGA->SCART... :-/

[11:10:57]

asd26:

i need to configure myth to i686 instead of i586

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Juski:

hashbang: sorry if I asked this before, but your vga-scart thingy – is that just the simple cct with the transistor & some resistors?

[11:13:51]

i686:

?

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Hoxzer:

eh

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Juski:

i686 sorry you didn't understand the question that was not directed at you :-/

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asd26:

if i arch up to i686 would it destroy my settings?

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Juski:

as with any upgrade you should back up the DB first

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Juski:

as if you should have to have an excuse to back up the database!

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** asd26 wonders if he should play russian roulette **

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dscoular:

asd26, what grab issue ?

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asd26:

au_grab_australia to show the upcoming shows

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dscoular:

Simply wget http://immir.com/tv_grab_au

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dscoular:

Throw it in /usr/bin and make it executable... what's the problem ?

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asd26:

how do i run it?

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** stuarta looks for his cluebat **

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asd26:

I'll have to run setup again i think

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dscoular:

asd26, mythfilldatabase --help

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** stuarta asks MythLogBot if he can borrow the trout **

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dscoular:

asd26, or running mythtv-setup is probably the safest bet

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asd26:

my i686 stunt didn't work..lol

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Juski:

stunts only tend to work for cunning stuntmen ;-)

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mchou:

anyone happen to know what kind of CPU power would be required to decode H.264 1080 HD purely in SW?

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Juski:

mchou: lots, I assume. you getting twitchy at the prospect of US broadcasters changing from mpeg2 ?

[11:39:33]

mchou:

or to put it another way, where are there legit clips of H.264 in 1080?

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Juski:

I think the apple website have trailers & stuff in 1080 H.264

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mchou:

Juski: Idont think OTA in US are going to switch to H.264 anytime soon.....

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mchou:

most ppl havent even invested in mpeg2 yet in US :)

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Juski:

no I wouldn't think so either but it's been mentioned on the ML

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mchou:

mentioned by who?

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Juski:

can't remember exactly who. It was in the thread about adding a new stream type into the code

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mchou:

well, stream type in code makes sense

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Juski:

forward planning

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mchou:

but that probably doesnt have much to do with broadcasters

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mchou:

more to do with transcoded video

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asd26:

ok it's installed

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asd26:

i here the twin han can do i1080

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Juski:

there's been talk about switching the UK from mpeg2 to h.264 for everything digital – so far only talk though

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mchou:

UK can go to hell. Just heard the story regarding Diego Garcia.....

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Juski:

mchou: lol. so can the USA.. and we all probably will anyway

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mchou:

Juski: the brits evicted all the natives from Diego Garcia

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mchou:

Juski: I'm sure you are familiar w/ the history.....

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Juski:

nope, nor do I care much

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mchou:

Juski: well, you should. I hate to say it, but it makes the Brits look like Nazis

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Dibblah:

?

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Dibblah:

We're not Nazis. They didn't have a video camera on every street corner.

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mchou:

lol

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Juski:

of course the Americans have always been kind to their own native people

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asd26:

i just did mythfilldatabase

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laga:

Dibblah: hehehe

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mchou:

Dibblah: George Orwell was correct in his assessment.

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Dibblah:

You do realise it's primarily a US military base, right?

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Juski:

anyway just one cctv camera? there's apparently one camera to every 3 or 4 people in the UK

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Juski:

(and I have 3 of them)

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mchou:

Dibblah: yup. The US wouldn't "lease" the island otherwise......

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mchou:

Dibblah: but it was the brits who evicted the natives in exchange for a discount on polaris missiles

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Juski:

it's so rich when folks from the US preach morals at the rest of the world

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mchou:

Juski: wtf is "preaching?"

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asd26:

preaching == talking

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mchou:

Juski: you'll notice I didn't say the US is "correct"

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Dibblah:

Of course the US is correct. Might makes right and all that.

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asd26:

religion == culture

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mchou:

Dibblah: then you've drunk th koolaid, my friend.....

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asd26:

culture == religon

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mchou:

the*

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Juski:

ignorance == religion

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Juski:

religion == control

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Dibblah:

ignorance == bliss.

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asd26:

ignorance == hardstone

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Juski:

anyway back to #mythtv-users

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** dscoular nods **

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mchou:

Dibblah: Might makes right is something the brits came up with during their colonial days until Ghandi kicked some brit butt

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mchou:

"Dieu est mon droit" and all that BS

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asd26:

governments == maniuplators of the people

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asd26:

gee this 7 day guide is taking a while to download

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Juski:

heh. it will do. there's a lot of data

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Juski:

14 days takes a while too

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asd26:

your right about relgion and control, culture also implies control of what is OK

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SirFunk:

what are "user jobs" and where do you set them up?

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asd26:

Juski isn't it just times and names?

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Juski:

asd26: time data, names, descriptions... for lots of channels, every show for a number of days... it all adds up

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Juski:

some listings grabbers have to go & scrape the data from webpages too – that can slow it down a lot

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asd26:

i hope it gets the times right

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asd26:

is it wise to use two different types of DTV cards?

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Juski:

asd26: having the right guide data is no guarantee you'll record the whole of the correct show ;-) That's up to the broadcaster

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Juski:

asd26: no wiser than using 2 the same IMHO. I have 2 identical dvb-t tuners in my system

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** Juski reads the -commits list **

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asd26:

Juski it just the remote on my DTV no work..

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Juski:

stuarta: you around? seen this? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/205417

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asd26:

using old analog capture card

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Juski:

DTV != analog

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asd26:

Juski it two cards DTV one analog

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asd26:

analog is just used for the remote

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Juski:

you asked if it was wise to use 2 different types of dtv cards... :-/

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asd26:

Juski it just my analog remote is crappy, i fgot another DTV card i might be in luck with a better one

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asd26:

i bet there some remote out there one could buy for like 20 dollars already setup for mythtv

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mchou:

shit, who'd pay to get a remote. It's ridicolous

[12:08:03]

mchou:

ridiculous*

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asd26:

http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/pixelview/playtv_pro.jpg

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asd26:

that my analog remote

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mchou:

nice remotes get bundled with any decent capture cad these days

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mchou:

card*

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mchou:

even the bundles are too expensive. If you are handy with a soldering iron you can build one for around $5

[12:10:20]

mchou:

and use any existing universal remote

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mchou:

there is no need to accumalate "extra" remote controls

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mchou:

accumulate*

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stuarta:

Juski: I'm back from lunch, just reading the link

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stuarta:

surprised it hasn't been closed with 'fixed in head'

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ivor:

mchou: you might pay for one if you want a nicer more ergonomic one than bundled.

[12:13:14]

mchou:

ivor: my point is why go with a bundled one at all

[12:13:42]

ivor:

yeah I didn't quite follow what you meant. sorry.

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** stuarta reads his -commit mail and finds it has been **

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mchou:

when a ir receiver module can be had for around $1.....

[12:14:15]

ivor:

everyone builds their ir receivers don't they? :)

[12:14:23]

mchou:

probably can rip one out of an old vcr at the junkyard if you get real desperate :)

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asd26:

tv_grab_au 1.52: grabbing 7 days into /tmp/mythYYq4dg

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asd26:

gcannot open /var/local/tv_grab_au/cached.pl: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/tv_grab_au line 340.

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asd26:

lol

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asd26:

dam i'm downloading it again

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Dibblah:

Ooooh. Alternative SoC... http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/24/036230

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asd26:

dscoular lol i'll have to use the paper..lol

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asd26:

the word terrorist comes up so many times on televison, but the reality is bank robbers are more common..lol

[12:47:53]

Vme:

what should my channel frequency table be if i'm using Dishnetwork? I'm configuring the backend?

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asd26:

CallSign what is a it?

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dscoular:

asd26, do a mkdir -p /var/local/tv_grab_au/

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dscoular:

asd26, CallSign definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_call_sign

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asd26:

dscoular whats that dir for?

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dscoular:

asd26, tv_grab_au generates a cache locally and places it there as cache.pl

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dscoular:

asd26, this speeds tv_grab_au no end

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asd26:

ok i'm downloading it again

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asd26:

it should now i guess

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dscoular:

yeppers

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asd26:

i selected syd, but i live in wollongong..lol

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dscoular:

Go the gong

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** stuarta went to uni @ the gong. Go duckponds! **

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** dscoular thinks the whole laughing out load thing gets a bit stale when used to excess **

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Vme:

hello, i'm running a nexus-s card with a diseqc switch, i'm not quite sure what capture card to pick in the mythtv setup?

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** dscoular used to live in Woonona **

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Vme:

i have v41 compiled into my kernel

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Vme:

and everything works great with VDR

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asd26:

stuarta lol

[13:05:14]

stuarta:

what about dvb drivers?

[13:05:26]

asd26:

stuarta u like the chip rolls?

[13:05:36]

Vme:

nothing about the drivers, i'm just trying to figure out what capture card to choose?

[13:05:46]

asd26:

dscoular i'm mad

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Vme:

in mythtv-setup

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asd26:

dscoular i use it heaps in wow

[13:06:54]

asd26:

dscoular so this thing should work after i download the data again?

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stuarta:

Vme: it's just you need to set it as a dvb card (there should be one that allows you to set diseq params)

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** dscoular chortles to himself ;) **

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stuarta:

asd26: was never a fan of chip rolls, chicken salt is good however....

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Vme:

stuarta: there is one, but i'm unsure on the diseqc settings... I have a diseqc.conf file from VDR, but i'm not sure how to convert.

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Vme:

(everything works great in VDR)

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Vme:

S110.0W 99999 V 11250 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1]

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stuarta:

oh right, though you couldn't find the right setting. I know a bit about diseq, just have never set it up in myth

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Vme:

S110.0W 99999 H 11250 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3]

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Vme:

those are my two lines for my 110 sat

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stuarta:

S110 would be your angular position, think it gets put in as -110

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Vme:

i have latitude and longitude variables to fill :)

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maqe:

Hi, i´m using the .19 fixes release but often when i change channel the frontend crashes. Is there any known issues regarding this error? I´m using dvb-t

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sapbeast:

anyone an expert with transcode?

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Vme:

i'm guessing -110 and -15

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stuarta:

maqe: any chance of debugging this for us?

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stuarta:

Vme: that's a good guess for a starting point

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Juski:

bored

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stuarta:

hola juski

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Vme:

:)

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scopeuk:

yo Juski

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sapbeast:

im trying to figure out if its possible to have a "target size" when using the transcode utility

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Juski:

hiya stuarta. I just checked the log & caught your comment

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stuarta:

yeah it's weird. I run a card with the same chipset, occasionally have the kernel error message and it all works like a dream...

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asd26:

does myhthy start deleting stuff when u get to 99% full?

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stuarta:

asd26: read up on autoexpire....

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maqe:

stuarta: you mean providing som log files :)

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Juski:

heh I don't get any such errors AFAIK.

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stuarta:

backtraces actually http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc22.2

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maqe:

stuarta: okay i could take a look at it

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asd26:

still no listing..lol

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maqe:

i haven´t compiled mythtv for debugging though

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stuarta:

it's necessary to get decent backtraces.

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** dscoular is considering recompiling with debug too **

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maqe:

stuarta: okay

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dscoular:

asd26, did you get an error or anything ?

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asd26:

found 72 ep's

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MrGandalv:

someone with a diseqc question?

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dscoular:

what's an "ep"

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asd26:

eposide

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asd26:

i just rebooted i'll see what happens

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dscoular:

why would you reboot ?

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** dscoular shakes his head **

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asd26:

mabe it didn't update it's self

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stuarta:

Vme: ask MrGandalv....

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asd26:

listings on mythweb

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asd26:

nothing new

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dscoular:

asd26, and you have associated the new xmltvid's with your chosen channels.

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asd26:

mabe i need to run mythsetup again

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dscoular:

asd26, maybe you need to read some manuals

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** Juski wonders what the hay ever did to dscoular **

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** stuarta eats the hay **

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** dscoular wonders what trout ever did to anyone **

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MrGandalv:

Using a diseqc switch only you shouldn't have to fill in the diseqc_pos, only diseqc_port.

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stuarta:

and it works out the rest?

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MrGandalv:

If you fill in diseqc_pos then you have to define diseqc_type as 6 or 7. In this case I believe it should be defined as 4.

[13:30:26]

MrGandalv:

And F3 in the command is switch port 2, if I remember correctly.

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MrGandalv:

starting at 1, of course

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MrGandalv:

I'm sorry, F3 is switch port 0.

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MrGandalv:

starting at 0 (or 1 starting at 1)

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Vme:

hrm

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MrGandalv:

So Myth would be setup using a DiSEqC 1.1 switch and you would define port 0 as your source.

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MrGandalv:

Of course, of this isn't a DiSEqC switch (as often the case here in the US) then you'll define it differently.

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Vme:

this is definitely a diseqc switch

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Vme:

i'm using for VDR right now

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Vme:

i have two LNBs

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Vme:

119/110

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Vme:

and i'm using a nexus-s card, with the v41 drivers

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MrGandalv:

what type of LNBs?

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MrGandalv:

backstanded?

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Vme:

its a dishnetwork 500 dish

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Vme:

standard stuff

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Vme:

the dish was on my roof when i purchased the home

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MrGandalv:

I think they're backstanded.. that menas you'll have to alter your multiplex information in the database.

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MrGandalv:

You'll need to find out either way.

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Vme:

well, now you've lost me

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MrGandalv:

those LNBs stack horizontal transponders onto verticles I believe.

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MrGandalv:

First make sure your switch is DiSEqC.. it will say on it. Then set that up in Myth and do a scan.

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Vme:

it definitely is

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Vme:

i purchased it from ebay

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Vme:

i did a scan

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Vme:

nothing happened

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SwedishMoose:

Hi all.. I've just begun to look at MythTV, but i'm encountering one small problem atm.. i can't update my database with tv-shows. Since i'm in Sweden, i need the XML::LibXML library, which i downloaded (xmltv-prereq-7) and installed (make test install seemed to work..). I still get the same error though.. (Can't locate XML/LibXML.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /us

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SwedishMoose:

Anyone has any idea what to do?

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MrGandalv:

vme: dvbn.happysat.org look for the Linux section.. that should help you with setting it up.

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Vme:

ok

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Vme:

i'll give that a look over

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Vme:

thanks

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MrGandalv:

np

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SwedishMoose:

I can update from other servers, but not the swedish ones, but that would only be natural if it's something wrong w/ LibXML

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AngryElf1:

hey guys, is there a way to change the channel of a pvr-250 from the command line?

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SwedishMoose:

No-one knows anything about LibXML?

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Juski:

AngryElf1: ivtvctl

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AngryElf1:

how do you set it channel x?

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Juski:

there's also ivtv-tune

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asd26:

sydney.sbs.com.au xml signs..lol

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Juski:

AngryElf1: read the ivtv docs. sheesh

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asd26:

still not geting my week listings

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K|NgGh0sT:

can someone help me with display issues? I cant find these in google... http://pastebin.ca/58362

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AngryElf1:

ok, read the docs....still can't figure out how to change the channel

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SwedishMoose:

Seriously, can someone at least point me in the right directeion please? Please at least tell me what the error message means

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Juski:

give me strength

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SwedishMoose:

Juski, you know what people new to Linux find worst?

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Vme:

MrGandalv: with the nexus-s should I be using "Analog V4L Capture Card" or "DVB DTV Capture Card (v3.x)"

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dorel_:

any ideas how could i display an image on-top of a runing movie in mplayer?

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Juski:

SwedishMoose: yes, and I was once a noob, but I at least could do my own research

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dorel_:

like a picture-in-picture thing

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MrGandalv:

Vme: DVB

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MrGandalv:

Vme: What version of Myth are you using?

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AngryElf1:

Juski, please show me where in the docs it says "change channel," thanx

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Vme:

0.19–0.6

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Vme:

i used a debian package

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Juski:

AngryElf1: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto#Test_the_card

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Vme:

i'm wondering if i should compile from source?

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MrGandalv:

Vme: Ok, under "Advanced Settings" for that card make sure to enable the Hardware Decoder.

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Juski:

"You can use ptune-ui or ivtv-tune to tune the tuner to a channel, or ivtvctl to switch inputs" :-/

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AngryElf1:

hmm

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AngryElf1:

i recall you told me to read the docs for ivtvctl

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AngryElf1:

whcih i've been reading

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AngryElf1:

but thanx for pointing me to ptune, buddy

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Juski:

no I said one of the two and to check the ivtv documentation

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Juski:

aaanyway

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Vme:

"advanced settings?"

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Hoxzer:

AARGH

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Juski:

SwedishMoose: have you googled for the error you get from the script?

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Juski:

chances are it could be a missing library. I had that a lot when I thought I'd installed xmltv already

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Hoxzer:

this might be stupid question but if I use tv_grab_fi and then scan channels they wont go "together" but I get multiple channels 1 from scan and one from TV_grab_fi

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Hoxzer:

so is there anyway to make them to go together

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SwedishMoose:

I have, and i've narrowed it down to one dependance i need to fix. It is indeed a missing library

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SwedishMoose:

LibXML that is

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Hoxzer:

so it would get EPG from tv_grab_fi and only the tune info from scan?

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SwedishMoose:

It's in the xmltv-prereq tarball, but i'm not quite sure how to install it

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Juski:

SwedishMoose: I found CPAN useful

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MrGandalv:

Vme: I think the button is labeled that.. there are on two, the left is DiSEqC and the right is what you need.

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Juski:

SwedishMoose: just a guess that you untar them into /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin .. does the tarball have a readme inside? ;-)

[14:01:35]

SwedishMoose:

It does, but it doesn't mention where to place them

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** caitlin thumps mythvideo in mythweb and wonders why it's not better **

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caitlin:

probably because i'm using v0.18

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asd26:

cool mythy thing works

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qu0zl:

SwedishMoose is XML/LibXML.pm part of the libxml library or a seperate perl api to it?

[14:07:38]

qu0zl:

on debian i'd guess you need to install "libxml-perl" package

[14:07:52]

qu0zl:

libxml is a gnome c library, that's moaning about missing the perl wrapper i think

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SwedishMoose:

I'm on Arch Linux.. there's one 'libxml2' available, but it's already installed..

[14:09:17]

qu0zl:

that may be the library not the perl api to it. Do you have a "LibXML.pm" in your file system?

[14:09:28]

qu0zl:

updatedb && locate LibXML.pm

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qu0zl:

if you don't have it, check that it's not in a different package. I wouldn't expect the perl wrapper to be in a package called "libxml2" tbh

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SwedishMoose:

I installed the libxml perl package a few minutes ago, and put it into /usr/local/XML/

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qu0zl:

so whats the full path for your Libxml.pm file?

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SwedishMoose:

/usr/local/XML/LibXML.pm

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SwedishMoose:

Is it worth replacing the 'use' line with that path?

[14:16:38]

qu0zl:

is "/usr/local" in the @inc path listed in your error message?

[14:17:33]

SwedishMoose:

No, it isn't. How can i add it there?

[14:17:46]

SwedishMoose:

Or is it easier to move the files?

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qu0zl:

i've no idea how to add it there :) But you probably need the library in the library search path, which i'd guess that @inc path is

[14:18:51]

qu0zl:

i don't write perl, thank god

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SwedishMoose:

Me neither, but i'm gonna try copying the file to a directory included in INC

[14:20:23]

qu0zl:

k, that's what I'd do :)

[14:20:45]

qu0zl:

copy the XML dir, not just the file, as it'll look for XML/blah not just blah

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qu0zl:

or google for the cpan cmd to install the libxml perl module

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SwedishMoose:

I tried cpan, and it says LibXML is up to date now. The problem now is

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SwedishMoose:

Can't locate loadable object for module XML::LibXML::Common in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/XML/LibXML.pm line 11

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Juski:

omg: keene electronics in the UK are selling a HDCP compliant HDMI > VGA converter!

[14:56:34]

Juski:

SwedishMoose: if you can get CPAN, try install LibXML::Common

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qu0zl:

SwedishMoose, what is LibXML.pm trying to load at line 11? It may reference another cpan module that you need

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qu0zl:

it's quite likely to have some dependancies itself

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Juski:

CPAN might get the dependencies, I'm not 100% sure of that though

[14:58:28]

qu0zl:

true

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SwedishMoose:

XML::LibXML::Common is up to date as well

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qu0zl:

you edited LibXML.pm and checked what it was trying to load on line 11?

[15:00:54]

qu0zl:

i'm out of ideas SwedishMoose so, sorry

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Zider:

who here has built a serial IR receiver?

[15:02:36]

SwedishMoose:

use XML::LibXML::Common qw(:encoding :libxml);

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SwedishMoose:

on line 11

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JasonX:

anyone tried media portal ?

[15:05:18]

Dibblah:

Wchhhht ptui.

[15:05:51]

Dibblah:

JasonX: That'll translate to a no.

[15:06:01]

K|NgGh0sT:

can someone help me with display issues? I cant find these in google... http://pastebin.ca/58362

[15:06:12]

Juski:

Zider: www.juski.co.uk/ccts.png

[15:06:20]

K|NgGh0sT:

well I can but I see no relivance to the issue

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Juski:

JasonX: tried mediaportal – was slow as hell on a 2800 Athlon :-/

[15:06:54]

Zider:

Juski: 404 – and a picture doesn't tell me what I wanted to know :)

[15:08:09]

Juski:

Zider: so ask already

[15:08:27]

Juski:

www.juski.co.uk/ccts.png

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Juski:

oops

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Zider:

Juski: well, I was gonna ask about capacitors.. they're rated 50V and it sounded very overkill.. is that a max rating or something?

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Juski:

yeah maximum rating. a 16V capacitor would be fine

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Juski:

fine, and smaller in size no doubt ;)

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Zider:

I don't see any 4,7uF among the 16V's tho

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JasonX:

hmmm friend was talking about it, as it was written by same guys who did xbmc so figured it must be pretty good

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Juski:

Zider: it could be 10uF or even 1uF – either would be fine

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Juski:

JasonX: it's a monster written in .net

[15:11:25]

Zider:

Juski: hmm.. the description I'm reading at lirc.org says 4,7uF tho.. why is that? :P

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symbolics:

anybody here using a PVR-350? i'm getting no audio on the tv-out (using knoppmyth R5C7)

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Juski:

Zider: I take it you're talking about the capacitor on the 5v output of the voltage regulator

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Zider:

Juski: http://www.lirc.org/images/schematics.gif

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Zider:

C1

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Juski:

Zider: my lirc receiver which works fine has _no_ capacitor other than 100nF in that position.

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Zider:

Juski: and it's made like that?

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Juski:

it's just to smooth out bumps on the voltage rail caused by the IR receiver drawing current

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Juski:

Zider: yep

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Zider:

mkay

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Juski:

1uF would be enough. 4u7 is definitely more than enough

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Zider:

the rest seems to be pretty standard stuff

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Juski:

you mean 4u7 capcitors are hard to come by where you are?!

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Zider:

nope, they're just rated 50V

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Juski:

50v is okay though

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Juski:

that rating just means you can use em up to 50 volts

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Juski:

you'd only be using them at 5V – a little overkill but nothing drastic unless the cap is like six inches in diameter ;-)

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Zider:

http://www.elfa.se/elfa-bin/dyndok.pl?lang=en . . . m?_67_013_46

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nero_office:

just installed a Pioneer DVR-111D (DVD burner).. man, is it QUIET.. I am blown away!! (my old DVD drive was like a jet engine firing up)

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Juski:

Zider: don't worry about it... those ones will be fine. 5x11mm is about the right size anyway

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Zider:

Juski: goodie

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Zider:

elfa has it all

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Zider:

sometimes too much ;)

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Zider:

I have an old ELFA product catalogue from 1998.. 2000 pages, A4 size

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AngryElf1:

could somebody who uses ivtv 'ivtvctl -a' and tell me their values for hue/saturation/brightness?? They're at the very bottom of the output

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jams:

0,63,127

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jams:

AngryElf- that was for you

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AngryElf1:

i saw, thanx

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cythrault:

0,63,128

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jams:

cythrault- obviously your running way to bright :)

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Wonko:

I've just installed the frontend on a different computer than the backend. I have configured the frontend exactly the same as the backend except that the hostname was changed from 'localhost' to '192.168.0.4'. The problem is that it can not open the database.

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Juski:

Wonko: check that the mysql daemon isn't bound to localhost

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Juski:

/etc/my.cnf

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jams:

look at mysql.conf and make sure skip-networking is commented

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jams:

also make sure permissions are correct like the myth docs state

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jams:

permissions on the database

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Juski:

hmm where did I get my.cnf from?

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jams:

bah your right it's my.conf

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jams:

another dumb mysql thing

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Juski:

there's a section in the mythtv docs on seperate FE & BE anyway

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Wonko:

Juski: I couldn't find information in the docs about mysql permissions etc. The docs seemed quite straight forward

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Juski:

Wonko: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2

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cythrault:

jams; hmm, no, it looks very good.

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Juski:

anyway – time to go

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jams:

then I would say it's a permission problem, which section 6.2 will help with

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jams:

later Juski

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Wonko:

jams: I have done the steps at the bottom of section 6.2 but there were no differences. Did I also have to edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf?

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jams:

Wonko, just make sure "skip-networking" is commented out in my.cnf

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jams:

also make sure mythbackend is listening to it's ip address and not localhost or 127.0.0.1

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Wonko:

jams: It says in my.cnf: '# Instead of skip-networking the default is now to listen only on localhost which is more compatible and is not less secure.' And the line below says: bind-address = 127.0.0.1 Should I change that to 192.168.0.4?

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jams:

yeah

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jams:

mysql5?

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stevenh:

I am been doing some searching and haven't found an answer. Does Mythweb work well with php5?

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Wonko:

jams: version: 5.0.20-Debian_1-log

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Wonko:

jams: bind-address = 192.168.0.4 didn't solve the problem even after a '/etc/init.d/mysql restart'

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jams:

Wonko- on the frontend try this: mysql -D mythconver -h 192.168.0.4 -u mythtv -p

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jams:

Wonko- on the frontend try this: mysql -D mythconverg -h 192.168.0.4 -u mythtv -p

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jams:

that will connect the client to the database, if it works then it's your mythtv configuration

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Wonko:

jams: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.0.3' (using password: YES)

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Wonko:

jams: The password is the one in the backend configuration, right?

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jams:

unless you changed anything the password is mythtv

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Wonko:

jams: With password 'mythtv': ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'192.168.0.%' to database 'mythconver'

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jams:

it's mythconverg

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jams:

not mythconver that was my typo

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Wonko:

jams: Aha, copy and paste :)

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Wonko:

jams: That worked! But in the config the password is 'bshummmt' as default?!?

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jams:

don't know a thing about that, unless your talking about the mysql super user password

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jams:

so now you should look at your mythtv mysql.txt file to make sure it has the right info

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Wonko:

jams: Never mind! With password 'mythtv' and the fixes in section 6.2 it now works! Thanks!

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jams:

good

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Wonko:

jams: Sorry, do you mean the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt on the frontend?

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Vme:

are there any taboo topics in this channel? Any topcis inparticular that would get me kicked? :)

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scopeuk:

mce

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sphing:

i'm risking getting banned.. but asking about taboo is taboo

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scopeuk:

excesive flame

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scopeuk:

and seanse as your new excessive off topic

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Vme:

lol

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Vme:

ok

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scopeuk:

go there well shut you up before you go to far aslong as you give us chance

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armand:

o_O

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Vme:

basically i was wanting to ask about sc-0.5.7, i just SVN'd the latest myth and have been going through a howto and I wasn't able to use that version when I compiled, i had to revert to 0.5.5

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scopeuk:

so what exactly is the question

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armand:

O_o

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Vme:

will 0.5.5 work?

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laga:

sc? does that involve decrypting of cable?

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scopeuk:

softcam is of topic nd will get youkciked

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laga:

yep. go away.

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scopeuk:

what the ydone to you besdies make life hell

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xris:

it keeps freezing

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armand:

doesnt freeze fer me :P

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xris:

didn't yesterday, either.

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xris:

trying an older kernel

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sphing:

lol

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sphing:

i keep wanting to talk to xris

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armand:

no you arent

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sphing:

did you wave your hand like a jedi?

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Kelerion:

evening all

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laga:

!trout Kelerion

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** MythLogBot slaps Kelerion with a trout on behalf of laga... **

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Kelerion:

awww... I feel soooo welcome :)

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laga:

hehe :)

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armand:

sphing: hehe

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jams:

Wonko- yes

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danfg:

is mythtv worth the trouble of leaving windows xp + mediaportal and installing linux on my htpc?

[17:31:48]

Wonko:

jams: What information should I ensure is there?

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Zider:

I haven't tried any windows media center stuff, but mythtv is in my opinion a kickass system

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danfg:

Zider: media portal is quite good if you ever want to try it, but i have a few hangups about it, so i'm seriously considering a switch

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Wonko:

jams: The hostname (IP), username, password, dbname is correct. A few options further down is commented out.

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danfg:

can you tell mythtv to put the computer in standby/suspend/whatever and have it wake up in a predetermined time to record something on tv? is that even possible (i mean, have the pc wake up on schedule)?

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Kelerion:

danfg: yup.. you can.. if your bios supports it

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Kelerion:

a few people here have it setup like that

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danfg:

Kelerion: what should i look for? is this something i have to setup on the bios directly or can the software do it for me?

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Kelerion:

no idea.. sorry, never done it myself.. I just know people have done it

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Kelerion:

a quick search on google for "mythtv wake up" gives some useful links though

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Kelerion:

it's called nvram wake up apparently

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danfg:

isn't nvram = flash memory?

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Wonko:

jams: I still have a mis-configuration somewhere since it says: 'Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) Connection timed out. You probably should modify the Master Server settings in the setup program and set the proper IP address.

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xris:

let's try this again...

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gutano:

can anyone point me in the direction of some good reading on various tuner cards (glances at his crappy BT878)

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sapbeast:

sigh... getting transcoding down to a science is tough work

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cythrault:

anduin, are you around?

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Anduin:

cythrault: Yes.

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cythrault:

about the filldb patch...

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cythrault:

I ran a pass yesterday, it updated the xmltvid to the right values

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Vme:

somehow i've managed to screw up mysql database?

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Vme:

is there a way to just recreate it?

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Vme:

i've tried removing everything

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Vme:

but it doesn't really seem to help?

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cythrault:

and today's pass just completed and I noticed that the xmltvid reverted to the old values. so, I ran filldb again and they updated to the right ones.

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Anduin:

Vme: You can drop the DB and use the mc.sql file to get a base that the frontend/backend will fill in.

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cythrault:

I can live with it, but I wanted to let you know. ;)

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Vme:

i did that i thought

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Vme:

mysql -u root -p < mc.sql

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Vme:

this?

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cythrault:

vme; you mean, delete from all tables?

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cythrault:

vme; well, you need to drop the database first.

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Anduin:

Vme: did you DROP DATABASE mythconverg;?

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Vme:

hrm

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cythrault:

mysql -u root -p -e "drop database mythconverg"

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Vme:

ok

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Vme:

hrm

[18:31:05]

Vme:

maybe thats not my issue?

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Anduin:

cythrault: for DD lineups the xmltvid isn't so important, yesterday you were saying the channum and freqid didn't match, is that the case?

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Vme:

i keep getting "No error type from QSqlError? Strange..."

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Vme:

Access denied for 'mythtv'@'localhost'

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Anduin:

Vme: You did the drop, then the mc.sql, then tried to run the frontend?

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Vme:

i'm trying to to mythtv-setup

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Vme:

i just compiled the source

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Vme:

and the plugins

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Vme:

ERROR 1008 (HY000) at line 1: Can't drop database 'mythconverg'; database doesn't exist

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Vme:

i got that when i tried to drop it

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Vme:

can i list the databases i have ??

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Anduin:

Vme: show databases;

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MrGandalv:

Vme: Setup your database to allow the user 'mythtv' with password 'mythtv'. Then run mythbackend and I believe it will create your database if it doesn't exist.

[18:37:09]

Anduin:

It will create tables, not the db.

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Vme:

i have a mysql, mythconverg, test, and information schema

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Anduin:

Vme: did you drop mythconverg and rerun mc.sql?

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Vme:

ok

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Vme:

i dropped it

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Vme:

and readded it

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Anduin:

and then?

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Vme:

i ran mythtv-setup

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Vme:

and i get the same errors

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Zider:

aaand theeen? flied lice?

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Vme:

Unable to connect to database

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Vme:

"No error type from QSqlError? Strange..."

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Vme:

?

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Vme:

any idea?

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Vme:

mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'monty'@'localhost'

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Vme:

-> IDENTIFIED BY 'some_pass' WITH GRANT OPTION;

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Vme:

i tried that

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Vme:

with mythtv obviously in place of monty and some_pass

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cythrault:

Anduin; yes, they do match now.

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Anduin:

Vme: for local access the mc.sql file has that already, anyway if it were an access issue you'd be able to reproduce it with mysql -u mythtv -p

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Vme:

Anduin: I tried that and i could get in with mythtv as the password

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Anduin:

cythrault: Only after several runs?

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Vme:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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Vme:

i keep getting those in my console?

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rhp:

hi all, any experience with teletext available?

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sixy:

hi – i am searching for a was to silently copy pictures to the hard drive whenever a flash card is inserted

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sapbeast:

man i sure hope this works, im tired of fiddling around with transcode/mencoder already :p

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Vme-:

ugh

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Vme-:

finally got mysql fixed

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Vme-:

now i'm in the MythTV setup

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Vme-:

hrm

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Sneaker:

I use Nebula dvb-t with mythtv and it works fine. But then I added it's composite videoin as V4L device to mythtv. Videoin works fine but DVB-T tuner of the card doesn't work at all. It can't get lock. If I remove videoin from mythtvsetup the card starts working. Is there anything I can do?

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corpix:

hi

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corpix:

how could i play a *.nuv file ? even mplayer can't handle it (just a green screen) ...

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armand:

thats odd, i havent had any problem playing .nuv with mplayer

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corpix:

do you probably use gentoo ?

[20:16:03]

armand:

yeah. though distribution wouldnt matter

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Vme-:

f you have Dish Pro LNBs you have to stop the scan after it finds the transponder list because half of the transponders will be missing until you back stand the left tranponders to right. If you don't have Dish Pro LNBs you can let the scan continue. It takes me about 45 minutes to scan an entire satelite

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Vme-:

i have the dishpro lnbs

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Vme-:

how long does it take?

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Vme-:

because it seems to find something right away?

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stuarta:

Sneaker: nope, the two inputs are mutually exclusive...

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corpix:

armand: what use flags do you have ? these are mine for mplayer: media-video/mplayer-1.0.20060415 USE="X aac aalib* alsa arts bl* directfb* dv* dvd dvdread edl* encode fbcon ggi* gif gtk jack* joystick jpeg libcaca lirc live* lzo* mad matroska musepack nas nvidia openal opengl oss png rtc samba* sdl speex* tga* theora* truetype unicode v4l vorbis x264 xinerama xmms xv xvid -bidi -bindist -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -

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corpix:

dga -doc -dts -dvb -esd -i8x0 -ipv6 -livecd -matrox -v4l2 -xanim -xvmc" 7,479 kB

[20:17:38]

sapbeast:

armand:for gentoo i think it does matter, as mplayer needs nuv suppory compiled in

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Sneaker:

stuarta, but I dont want to use them at the same time

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Sneaker:

stuarta, isn't there something that I can use to switch between?

[20:18:41]

stuarta:

I know, tried the same thing myself, but couldn't get it to work...

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armand:

sapbeast: odd.. all nuv is, is mpeg2 with some extra header info or something

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sapbeast:

well its a different container format with rt-jpeg

[20:19:10]

sapbeast:

at least by default

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armand:

now, yeah, in .19

[20:19:36]

armand:

thats new

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armand:

hehe

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armand:

.18 and below everyting was .nuv even pvrXXX

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sapbeast:

although i can tell you one thing, you can compile mplayer as "kitchen sink" in gentoo with no real penalty, just dont enable aac or x264

[20:20:33]

armand:

hah i still have some old .nuv recordings

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corpix:

armand: i am using svn 10003

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armand:

i use pvr250's so my recordings are all mpg now

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sapbeast:

well it wasnt necessary for pvr stuff... the card outputs direct mpeg-2 program stream

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corpix:

but i dont think video container/codec has changed

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armand:

in .18 myth used to name files with .nuv extension that were created by pvr250's

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armand:

or 150's, or 500's

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corpix:

sapbeast: so you say it might work with -aac -x264 ?

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armand:

in .19 thats was changed to .mpg

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sapbeast:

corpix: well i can tell you that building fails lately when using aac or x264 on the unstable ~x86 tree

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corpix:

that'd be odd, too

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corpix:

it builds up nicely on amd64, tho tried the 32bit binary

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sapbeast:

well on 32-bit it didnt seem to work, at least at work i tried to rebuild it beause im trying out different transcoding stuff

[20:22:58]

armand:

does mplayer say it cant decode video when you try to play it?

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sapbeast:

if it cant decode i think it just bails

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sapbeast:

you wont even get a display?

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corpix:

armand: it says its all fine, sec

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armand:

corpix: any chance it just recorded a green screen? hehe

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corpix:

armand: no way, the internal myth player works

[20:23:57]

corpix:

Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family

[20:24:00]

corpix:

Selected video codec: [ffnuv] vfm: ffmpeg (NuppelVideo)

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corpix:

audio is ok, video is <<green>>

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sapbeast:

well in that case maybe its a display overlay issue

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sapbeast:

try -vo x11 or -vo xv

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cythrault:

Anduin; sorry for the delay. you asked "Only after several runs?". What do you mean? If freqid=channum?

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corpix:

same issue for sdl,xv,x11

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corpix:

hmm

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sapbeast:

how about gl

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sapbeast:

but thats really odd

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cythrault:

Anduin; if so, no, i had to update them manualy but from that point I was able to get the right updates for my lineup.

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corpix:

sapbeast: gl, too

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sapbeast:

do mpeg files display this same issue

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sapbeast:

like all green

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corpix:

no

[20:29:04]

corpix:

i think its the codec

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corpix:

even an mjpeg in a nuv works

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sapbeast:

so is it mpeg-4 in nuv or rt-jpeg thats barfing

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corpix:

rt-jpeg

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corpix:

btw, i just transcoded to a divx/avi

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corpix:

still green

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corpix:

so its not an overlay issue

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sapbeast:

damn

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sapbeast:

must be something with ffmpeg or libavcodec then

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armand:

or it recorded a green screen :P

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corpix:

armand: really, the internal myth player can play it ;)

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armand:

you useing xvmc in mythfrontend?

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corpix:

no

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armand:

doesnt myth use ffmpeg then

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corpix:

hmm : ffmpeg -i bug.nuv -o foo.avi --> bug.nuv: Unknown format

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sapbeast:

very strange... if your not using xvmc in myth then it defaults to ffmpeg i think yeah

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corpix:

btw, why is it using rtjpg ?

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corpix:

why not xvid or something ?

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corpix:

tho, transcoding to xvid doesn't work by now

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sapbeast:

corpix: thats exactly what im working on in the meantime, a script to transcode my shows to xvid

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sapbeast:

im not particuarly fond of the built in transcoder of myth :/

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corpix:

sapbeast: oh really ? i made a 3-pass script for that work, but i didnt figure out how to use such a script for a User Job

[20:38:08]

sapbeast:

i didnt try a 3 pass (3 pass wha?) but I got a basic 2-pass one running now hoping it comes out correctly

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sapbeast:

my problem ive been having is not only learning how transcode/mencoder work, but trying to make the "target size" feature operate properly

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sapbeast:

as in 60m show = 1/3 DVD

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Vme-:

i scanned 119W fine, but 110W didn't work?

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corpix:

sapbeast: if you like you can look over it, the 3rd, or better 1st pass just preprocesses the audio: ftp://korpyx.dyndns.org/any2avi.sh

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Vme-:

For 110, 148, and 129 you can use 12224000, Right Circular, 20000000

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Vme-:

i used those values

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C4T3l:

log away

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sapbeast:

mine is very basic: http://pastebin.ca/58703

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sapbeast:

im not very good at scripting but do know enough about xvid and such since ive been using it for ages...

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sapbeast:

my attempts at using transcode itself has been pretty lousy, mainly because i cant get it to do a fixed size output, even if i use a bitrate calculator and set the bitrate to what it should be

[20:44:32]

sapbeast:

although looking at your script it seems to have the same basics...

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sapbeast:

what exactly is your pass 0 for?

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WillCooke:

anyone ever tried resizing an ext3 partition while it's mounted?

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sapbeast:

WillCooke: you will likely guarantee it gets hosed in one shape or another

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Zider:

cythrault: and why do you inform us that you don't have a temperature? :P

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WillCooke:

Damn! I thought someone would say that. My mistake, I created my root vol. on an lvm and now it's full of TV!

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corpix_:

re

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sapbeast:

corpix: i take it you got d/c... and i just asked you a bunch of questions :p

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corpix_:

yeah damn isp

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sapbeast:

<sapbeast> mine is very basic: http://pastebin.ca/58703

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sapbeast:

<sapbeast> im not very good at scripting but do know enough about xvid and such since ive been using it for ages...

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corpix_:

just repeat ;)

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sapbeast:

<sapbeast> what exactly is your pass 0 for?

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corpix_:

sapbeast: it preprocesses the audio

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sapbeast:

WillCooke: well the only way around that is by offloading it on a different drive... although its not necessarily bad your tv is on root (just less organized)

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corpix_:

to *guess* the resulting audio size

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sapbeast:

oh becase you are using ABR

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corpix_:

<corpix> sapbeast: btw, you can do a "-xvidencopts [..]:bitrate=-700000:[..] to made the output around 700MB

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sapbeast:

i usually tend to avoid using ABV/VBR because of playback issues sometimes (sync issues)

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sapbeast:

at least with .avi

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corpix_:

sapbeast: ideed, but just with very low bitrates

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sapbeast:

yeah i finally found that topic about using the negative bitrate with mencoder to try a fixed size

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sapbeast:

i have mine set to 1/3 DVD (minus the space for audio)

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sapbeast:

to see what happens

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corpix_:

it works pretty good

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WillCooke:

well – if I hose the drive I'll have to rebuild, if I don't try then I can't record any more. So, if I time-out you'll know what happened!

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sapbeast:

transcode was VERY frustrating because it would not allow this, if you used a negative number it would say invalid bitrate even though xvid would accept this

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corpix_:

transcode is good for mpeg

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corpix_:

mencoder rocks for mpeg4

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sapbeast:

yeah transcode is better for doing mpeg2/dvd

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sapbeast:

but very poor for xvid because of above said reason

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corpix_:

plus the speed

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corpix_:

though, transcode is parallizable

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sapbeast:

no dual core cpu here (yet) so that does not worry me

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sapbeast:

one thing ive found though is that dvd::rip the latest beta is still very much beta... it doesnt pull the vobs off the disc very well (always complains about too few frames ripped)

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sapbeast:

but is a nice frontend for putting dvds on your mythbox (not that the built in one for mythtv is really that bad either... but doesnt give you expert options)

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corpix_:

true; i tried this once in a openmosix cluster

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corpix_:

even with win with the built-in master/client thing in dvd:rip

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sapbeast:

the stable dvd::rip is ok minus the newer options, but the beta has major problems ripping

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sapbeast:

dont see why, its using the same libdvdread on both (?!)

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corpix_:

sapbeast: no idea

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endless_us:

Hi guys, Need instraction on how to setup IRTrans on Ubuntu. THANK YOU. PLEASE HELP

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sapbeast:

well maybe it will be corrected later on...

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corpix_:

sapbeast: i use this any2avi for my dvds

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sapbeast:

certainly easier for "cartoon" discs where you want just a few episodes copied (like say my aeon flux box set)

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sapbeast:

corpix_: i may try that later when i get home

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corpix_:

dont even need a frontend and watch transcoding .. ;)

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corpix_:

sapbeast: what about this UserJob thing in myth ?

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corpix_:

how does myth know what the script returns ?

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sapbeast:

thats a mystery to me also, however i would LOVE to use it as a way to automatically "show -> xvid" after commercial flagging

[21:00:19]

corpix_:

(in oder to fill it into the databse)

[21:00:41]

sapbeast:

not really that, just to make a copy of the show in an "xvid archive" directory and then delete the original later

[21:00:59]

corpix_:

ok, so you want to use the video plugin ?

[21:01:15]

sapbeast:

although the time consumption is tremendous for a 1H show, it takes my poor computer about 4 hours to transcode

[21:01:30]

sapbeast:

video plugin as in?

[21:01:36]

corpix_:

you should go 1pass then

[21:01:48]

sapbeast:

yeah but 1 pass does not give the option for target size

[21:01:54]

corpix_:

1.3gb for 60mins of video is more than enough for a good quality

[21:02:01]

corpix_:

ah, isee ;)

[21:02:13]

sapbeast:

the whole idea for 2-pass is you can specify a target size

[21:02:16]

corpix_:

well, then you should play around with the bitrates

[21:02:20]

sapbeast:

that and the bonus of better looking video

[21:02:49]

sapbeast:

well not really the bitrates, just when using motion estimatin=6 and vhq=1, its about 12 fps in the 2nd pass

[21:02:53]

corpix_:

~1300 bitrate should produce a 1,3gb file

[21:03:11]

sapbeast:

yeah i might try that later on, using a fixed bitrate with 1-pass, although the results are ugly

[21:03:19]

sapbeast:

i would have to likely resize it to make 1-pass better

[21:03:29]

corpix_:

sapbeast: naw, not for a 60min video

[21:03:39]

sapbeast:

not with my cable :P

[21:04:05]

sapbeast:

the picture quality isnt that great to begin with so alot of quality is lost on noise or such

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sapbeast:

i have myth record at 480x480 (svcd size) and transcode without resize... set xvid to interlace encoding

[21:04:52]

corpix_:

i'd use half NTSC/PAL

[21:05:12]

sapbeast:

hmm i may have to do that... try 320x240 (ipod size too)

[21:05:39]

corpix_:

oh, a ipl user ?

[21:05:43]

sapbeast:

although i like being able to watch the video with smartbob and get 60 fps

[21:06:02]

sapbeast:

no no, i dont have a video ipod... but 320x240 is viable for watching on a computer in a window still

[21:06:12]

sapbeast:

and you can get more shows into less space

[21:06:33]

corpix_:

true

[21:06:51]

sapbeast:

if i could figure out how to do a smartbob transcode where it resizes to 320x240 but reproduces the alternating fields (60 fps encoded) that would be my goal

[21:07:24]

sapbeast:

because i never liked interlaced video being either de-interlaced to 30 fps or shown as-is with fields intermeshed... looks ugly

[21:07:24]

corpix_:

the is a :autoaspect option

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sapbeast:

the aspect didnt give me a problem, but when i tried last night i couldnt get the bob working

[21:07:56]

sapbeast:

would double the framerate but still only show 1 field... not alternating

[21:08:03]

corpix_:

hmm

[21:08:53]

sapbeast:

ill play with it more later on, i just need to start transcoding shows BADLY

[21:09:08]

sapbeast:

400gb of recorded shows and nowhere to go :(

[21:09:46]

corpix_:

heh, well i like them to be erased ;)

[21:09:55]

corpix_:

i usually just watch them once

[21:10:06]

corpix_:

basically i just hate commercials

[21:10:16]

sapbeast:

i dont care too much about leaving them in

[21:10:25]

sapbeast:

i just hit FF like i did with a vcr

[21:10:37]

sapbeast:

and sometimes its funny watching old commercials anyways hehe

[21:11:00]

sapbeast:

the reason i dont watch and delete is i lack time at home to go through all i record

[21:13:38]

kslater:

does anyone know of a guide for migrating from many releases ago to the current release? I'm getting ready for a new mythbox and my current system is 0.14..

[21:14:16]

armand:

damn, good luck

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scopeuk:

kslater id gues incrementaly

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scopeuk:

althgouh i dotn envy you

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kslater:

mostly it's a matter of converting the data in the database and then moving the files over that the database points to, right?

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scopeuk:

something like that

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scopeuk:

but there have been alot of database layout changes

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kslater:

Since I'm installing on fresh hardware I won't get the automagic schema updates. And I don't figure they'd work that far back in any case.

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corpix_:

how can i store my shows in "mpg" but not in "nuv" output files ?

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gutano:

hrrm... mythexport?

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corpix_:

gutano: whats that ?

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gutano:

plugin for ... exporting

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corpix_:

(nothing in contrib)

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corpix_:

gutano: it once was mpg, why did it change ?

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gutano:

never used it, but might point you in right direction.... google if no one else has any comments

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corpix_:

gutano: the issue is : ftp://korpyx.dyndns.org/bug2.nuv

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corpix_:

just a green screen

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corpix_:

RT-JPG doesnt work for me

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corpix_:

If i use recording profiles -> low quality -> transcoders -> low quality -> compression -> "MPEG-4" and transcode manually or autotranscode, it doesnt give me a file in xvid or divx

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corpix_:

does anyone know how to debug this ?

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WillCooke:

haha! +300GB of storage!

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** gutano cheers **

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WillCooke:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

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WillCooke:

/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root

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WillCooke:

549G 145G 376G 28% /

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WillCooke:

mmmmmm!

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WillCooke:

Juski!

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Juski:

WillCooke !

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gutano:

plannin on getting a new tuner, anyone have any recomendations? (standard cable)

[21:51:29]

Juski:

you been to the flicks recently?

[21:51:31]

WillCooke:

Just sucessfully added another 300gb to my myth box without loosing any data!

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sapbeast:

corpix_: it wont, which is why im doing what i am

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WillCooke:

Juski: not for ages

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Juski:

you know how they repeatedly preach about not watching pirated movies?

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WillCooke:

yeah yeah

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corpix_:

sapbeast: ;) ok, i think we got the same aim

[21:52:06]

Juski:

first 30 mins of the film had Jackie Chan movie lipsync!

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WillCooke:

and how it "funds terrorism"

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WillCooke:

what'd ya see?

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Juski:

and I dunno where they get their pirate DVDs from.. seem really bad quality ;-)

[21:52:42]

sapbeast:

corpix_: yeah, unfortunately the built in transcoders are very weak (at least in my opinion) over options and not even a way to specify your own transcoder

[21:52:48]

Juski:

Mission Impossible III :-(

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WillCooke:

hmm

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sapbeast:

you should be shot for actually watching that, and not the fact its ripped off hehe!

[21:53:11]

WillCooke:

Oo oo oo ooo ooooooo, guess what happened to me today

[21:53:24]

Juski:

got promoted?

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Juski:

wife begged for mythtv back?

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WillCooke:

I ordered a new 300gb disk from an unnamed online retailer (which I've just installed), only today another FOUR turned up! HA!

[21:54:15]

gutano:

!

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WillCooke:

hehehehe! Hoping they don't realise....

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Juski:

btw the bad lipsync was actually in a cinema. oh and the movie wasn't framed right. still – it _was_ Orange wednesday ;-)

[21:54:47]

Juski:

WillCooke: nice!

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corpix_:

sapbeast: hmm, but it would be better to let myth remove commercials ("transcode"), but dont compress, then use the xvid script and modify "basename" from "recorded" in the db according to the new file, wouldnt it ?

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corpix_:

sapbeast: i mean not using mythvideo

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WillCooke:

Juski: I figure if they don't ask for them back in 3 months I'll create a monster RAID array!

[21:55:39]

Juski:

lol

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sapbeast:

corpix_: all i want to accomplish right now rather is make a *copy* of the existing show to an archive thats transcoded to xvid... and not having to do it by hand for each show (like you mentioned, one of the user jobs)

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sapbeast:

as far as making a trasncoder that does the same but replace the existing mythtv recording... thats beyond my scope

[21:56:57]

corpix_:

sapbeast: it would be a one liner!

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Juski:

one thing I got from my trip to the cinema though... that $ky HD advert looks nice

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WillCooke:

:)

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corpix_:

sapbeast: just change the basename of the original file in the recorded table

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sapbeast:

corpix_: well yeah i imagine it wouldnt take much, especially if you used a script for frontend... but i dont know what "parameters" mythtv would pass to the user commands nor have i researched it

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sapbeast:

like say user command 1) transcode.sh $1 $2 or whatever

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corpix_:

sapbeast: i think its just like : "toxvid.sh %s"

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sapbeast:

yeah thats not a bad idea

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sapbeast:

cos i want to eventually have it when it records something, to back it up to xvid after its done in the machines spare time

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corpix_:

sec, trying something

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corpix_:

sapbeast: plus : you have it in the nice recordings window

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sapbeast:

im not overly worried about that, i lack the mysql skill

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sapbeast:

hey, it seems to be working what i just tried

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sapbeast:

the "target size"

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Juski:

last thing I'll say about movies at the cinema... film just doesn't look good enough.. too flickery for one thing. Bring on the digital projection, and make fast moving things erm... look better ;-)

[22:02:18]

Anduin:

cythrault: Yes.

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sapbeast:

i still prefer film

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sapbeast:

digital projection wont solve "fast moving things" either

[22:02:47]

Juski:

better framerate will though

[22:03:10]

sapbeast:

well not until there are drastic changes in the industry

[22:03:16]

sapbeast:

they really wont get rid of 24 fps anytime soon

[22:04:23]

Juski:

:-/

[22:04:35]

sapbeast:

not trying to be a spoil sport but thats just how it is right now

[22:05:09]

Juski:

I sort of figured they'd be compelled to upgrade to compete with HD

[22:05:45]

Juski:

just like panavision etc came along to offer more than the old 4:3 format

[22:06:06]

WillCooke:

holodeck's are what we need! ;)

[22:06:19]

Juski:

yup

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Juski:

"computer: load program Juski1... hello Tasha Yar... aharrrr"

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WillCooke:

you'll get eaten by a puddle

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Juski:

lol

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WillCooke:

now 7 of 9...........

[22:07:28]

Juski:

see, marmite IS evil :-P

[22:07:32]

WillCooke:

:))))

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stuarta:

that is possible one of the *worst* films I've seen

[22:08:07]

WillCooke:

busty brenda's bollock bananza?

[22:08:17]

stuarta:

Alien Love.

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Juski:

lol

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stuarta:

that is however why I recorded it (it was so bad)

[22:08:53]

Juski:

worse even than Starhip Troopers?

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sapbeast:

Juski: widescreen was nothing related to panavision though, it almost died as a gimmick

[22:09:09]

stuarta:

t1ts were better

[22:09:47]

stuarta:

think they wrote the script after doing the casting.

[22:09:48]

Juski:

sapbeast: ah. well they need to upgrade I reckon. people like me are staying away because of poor seating, bad flickery picture & poor sound

[22:10:12]

stuarta:

since Michal Dorn was in it they stuck lots of gratuitous star trek references in

[22:10:16]

sapbeast:

Juski: yeah but most others are staying away because of Some Movie 3 and This Other Movie 5

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sapbeast:

i.e. TOO MUCH GARBAGE

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Juski:

not to mention the shitty garbage they keep churning out

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Juski:

"oh no not another remake!"

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WillCooke:

mythnork plugin would flag starship troopers for record

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Juski:

Miami Vice!!!!!

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Juski:

ffs

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sapbeast:

Juski: that and $10 a ticket, high concession prices

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sapbeast:

its not really the picture quality alone (theaters around here do film VERY well) but its all the other annoyances

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corpix_:

sapbeast: http://pastebin.ca/58724

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sapbeast:

they show 30 mins of ads before the movie here

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Juski:

we once won free tickets to a movie.. we were starving so raided the refreshments... didn't get much change out of Â£15

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sapbeast:

so if your sitting down early, your watching ads, then the previews for 20 min... THEN the movie

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sapbeast:

thats why i stopped going

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Juski:

still – modern film trailers – see the trailer, you don't need to sit through the whole movie :-)

[22:13:18]

sapbeast:

corpix_: thats kind of cool

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corpix_:

sapbeast: BUT: both files, the new and old one _NEED_ to be in myth's recordings directory

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Juski:

if you ever hear of a some guy going loopy in a movie theatre & killing everyone, it'd because they stuck the 'carcraft' advert on

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sapbeast:

corpix_: well ill still research doing a transcode copy using the user job options

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Juski:

aaanyway.. might just be time to get lirc working on this here umbongo box

[22:14:51]

stuarta:

not the dancing car ad? I hate that...

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corpix_:

sapbeast: let's try with "script %s", please add that function to your script and lemme be your beta tester

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Juski:

stuarta: don't think so.. you're lucky I think (too far South)

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sapbeast:

corpix_: you mean in user job options?

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corpix_:

yes

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sapbeast:

all right give me a sec this machine is windoze

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sapbeast:

i have to switch back and forth

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sapbeast:

thing is... where do i put script.sh? or just use an abs path i imagine?

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corpix_:

sapbeast: somewhere in $PATH

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sapbeast:

roger that

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Juski:

hmmm no setserial command

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Juski:

hoookay looks like I have to compile lirc myself.. wooohooo

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sapbeast:

corpix: waiting for it to go from queued to running

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sapbeast:

and yeah i can read that, but i cant reply back

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corpix:

oh

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corpix:

k

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atomjack:

I'm trying to compile the latest svn, and I'm getting this error: dvbtypes.h:29:2: #error "DVB driver includes with API version 3 not found!"

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atomjack:

along with a whole shitload more errors after that

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WillCooke:

?

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WillCooke:

I compiled from svn about 4 hours ago and it all worked – not that that is any help to you

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atomjack:

yeah. weird thing is it worked fine on my backend server, i'm only getting these errors on my frontend...but i dindt even enable dvb on my frontend

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WillCooke:

did you try with --disable-dvb?

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Juski:

erm.. wouldn't it need to know about the stream types? or does the backend deal with that?

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atomjack:

hmm no, but i did just try it with --enable-dvb (i didnt have it there before) along with --dvb-path set..

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WillCooke:

perhaps ./configure is picking up some dvb headers

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WillCooke:

do you need svb?

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WillCooke:

dvb

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atomjack:

it doesnt look like --disable-dvb is an option though

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atomjack:

well i need it on the backend yeah, but it compiles there just fine

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atomjack:

i havent updated svn in a couple weeks, and just tried it today...before this, it compiled just fine

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WillCooke:

try chaning dvb="yes" to no in configure?

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atomjack:

i'll try that, after i finish this try with enabling dvb and setting dvb path...

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atomjack:

also, i checked the version.h and it's version 3 minor 1

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atomjack:

which means 3.1 right?

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WillCooke:

dunno

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Juski:

oh hell I have to make all the kernel modules :-/

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Juski:

this could be a good time to study this interactive training CDROM someone at work gave me

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WillCooke:

Juski: fix ir-common.c while your at it. add the new codes for the noas t

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WillCooke:

nova

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Juski:

yeah okay. good as done! (not)

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atomjack:

will:i think i fixed it..it got past dvbtypes.cpp, once I enabled dvb and set the dvb-path

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WillCooke:

sweet

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K|NgGh0sT:

can someone help me with display issues? http://pastebin.ca/58362

[22:42:53]

WillCooke:

K|NgGh0sT: in mythtv-setup try changing 127.0.0.1 to the actual ip address of your front end

[22:43:42]

WillCooke:

no, cancel that

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WillCooke:

the problem is with eth0

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armand:

hrm is there an easy way to change the encoder order?

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Juski:

oh wow. man that thing is cheeeese on a stick

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K|NgGh0sT:

WillCooke, howso?

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WillCooke:

K|NgGh0sT: dunno, thinking

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armand:

i have 4 encoders, 2 are local 2 are remote. it goes 1 local 2 local 3 remote 4 remote, id rather it be 1 local 2 remote 3 local 4 remote

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armand:

if that makes any sense hehe

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WillCooke:

K|NgGh0sT: hmm. my best guess is that your network card is something other than eth0 but your default route is through eth0. what distro?

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K|NgGh0sT:

Deb

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K|NgGh0sT:

and I think I am sing Eth1

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K|NgGh0sT:

lemme check

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RancidLM:

hey all how do i run mythtv in a window?

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armand:

rancidlm: --geom

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K|NgGh0sT:

yeah eth1

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Juski:

there's a checkbox labelled 'run mythfrontend in a window' :-/

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armand:

there that too, buried in setup somewhere hehe

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Juski:

not hard to find

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armand:

juski any idea about chaning encoder order?

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armand:

er changing

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Juski:

armand: why?

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WillCooke:

K|NgGh0sT: you could try sudo ifdown eth0 for now.... thinking.

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armand:

juski: because id like to change the order

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Juski:

help me fix this crappy interactive CDROM so it doesn't crash with GPFs ;-)

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RancidLM:

is defining the WxH of mythtv the only way to make it a window though? all i wanna do is view the stream remotely

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Juski:

RancidLM: yep

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armand:

juski: hehe sounds like fun!

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armand:

for remote streaming you're better off useing vlc

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K|NgGh0sT:

Eth0 doesnt work, well I never bothered to get it to work

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armand:

like the mythstreamtv plugin for mythweb is usefull

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Juski:

armand: change the order of your capture devices? I think that depends on the order you add them in, starting at 0 and incrementing for each tuner/encoder you add

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RancidLM:

armand: is their a way to set up remote streaming and a web interface to change the channels?

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armand:

rancidlm: mythstreamtv+mythweb

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RancidLM:

armand: great thanks!

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armand:

juski: hrm

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armand:

np

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Juski:

mythtv doesn't really do livetv streaming

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Juski:

not 'over the internet' kind of streaming anyhow

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RancidLM:

delayed tv?

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armand:

livetv is kind of manual, you just stream the device with vlc

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RancidLM:

hm

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Juski:

since the livetv buffer isn't just one file anymore it's a lot more complicated

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armand:

kind of surprised mythstreamtv doesnt have that built in actually

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armand:

thats true

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Juski:

armand: I'm not. it's a pretty lame thing to want to do imho

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armand:

streaming livetv to work? hehe

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armand:

im content with recordings. but it would be a neat thing to be able to do

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Juski:

not worth it if you don't have like a 1Mb upload pipe I think

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armand:

i was streaming to work with 128kbit upload

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WillCooke:

K|NgGh0sT: In ubuntu I have the network thingy added to the gnome panel, do you have such a thing?

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WillCooke:

brb

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armand:

then i got upgraded to 384, and the quality was improved when i turned it up, now i have 1mbit upload and it looks perfect

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armand:

vlc trasncodes on the fly to xvid or divx or whatever

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armand:

takes alot of cpu but it works

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Juski:

great, if you can download that fast at the other end ;-)

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armand:

to build that into mythstreamtv would just be some new scripts, but it would be complicated no doubt

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Juski:

we get about 50kb/sec at our desktops

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Juski:

anyone using a lot gets investigated

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armand:

ah.. that sucks

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armand:

ive always worked at isps, bandwidth is hardly monitored

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K|NgGh0sT:

WillCooke, ya I have it in KDE

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Juski:

I have enough time to dip in & out of irc over a ssh session and that's about it

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sapbeast:

im glad my bandwidth is pretty unlimited where i work... on a good day i can get 2MB/sec

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sapbeast:

although obviously i cant do anything "bad"

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WillCooke:

K|NgGh0sT: Well, if I choose properties, then configure, I can set my "default gateway device"

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Juski:

anyway – the answer is _no_ you can't get myth to stream live tv over the internet. not without modifying code / writing your own code

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Ryushin:

I'm having a heck of a time getting the ivtv svn load. Is there a irc channel for ivtv?

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Juski:

#ivtv-dev

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Juski:

drop by, watch you don't get hit by a passing tumbleweed

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WillCooke:

if you want to stream video look at vlc

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WillCooke:

is it vlc?

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WillCooke:

video lan anyway

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Juski:

yep

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armand:

yes vlc

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armand:

man i wish i knew mysql better haha

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armand:

there's got to be something in settings for encoder order

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Juski:

I wish I knew how to hand edit config files. this thing is building _every_ damn kernel module

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Juski:

dammit... I coulda used menuconfig

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sapbeast:

hand editing .config = shudder

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Juski:

I seem to remember this only taking about half an hour on an 800 smeg machine.. but that wasn't with everything enabled

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WillCooke:

laters Juski

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B-link:

anyone setup winmyth?

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titanium_platypu:

I can't get this thing to work. When I try to download guide info for the database, I get a ton of these:

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titanium_platypu:

You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'repeat,stereo,subtitled,hdtv,closecaptioned,tvrating,partnumber,parttotal,endti m' at line 1

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titanium_platypu:

and also, when I try to start the myth backend, I get this:

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titanium_platypu:

Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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titanium_platypu:

can anybody help me?

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Juski:

has today been "let's not bother reading the documentation" day or something?

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Juski:

titanium_platypu: your mythbackend cannot talk to the mysql server.

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VlivE:

anyone use mythtv on direct-frame-buffer?

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VlivE:

thats not a trick question :)

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K|NgGh0sT:

argh I dont want to go to class

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Juski:

B-link: winmyth is a PoS and has not worked for a long, long time

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K|NgGh0sT:

stupid stats class

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titanium_platypu:

Juski, so how do I fix it?

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B-link:

Juski: so i should setup my xbox then for a frontend?

[23:26:49]

Juski:

B-link: I dunno. But you can't use windows

[23:27:05]

Juski:

titanium_platypu: if you're following a howto I suggest you read it more closely

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titanium_platypu:

fine, don't help me....

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Juski:

here's a clue – you either don't have the right components installed, or you're missing a file called mysql.txt

[23:28:00]

Juski:

titanium_platypu: we don't do spoon feeding here :-)

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titanium_platypu:

I have installed MySQL and MythTV, both using apt-get.

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Juski:

have you ran mythtv-setup?

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titanium_platypu:

I don't call lending a helping hand "spoon feeding." and you can't deny that no documentation or HOWTO for this thing is 100% perfect.

[23:28:53]

titanium_platypu:

yes, I have.

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Juski:

ahh wait... the first bit of your questions look like bad news. possibly the wrong character set in your mysql setup

[23:29:56]

Juski:

titanium_platypu: do you have a file called ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and does it point to the mysql server on your machine?

[23:30:22]

Juski:

by that I mean do its _contents_ point to the right place?

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titanium_platypu:

no, I have no such file.

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Juski:

so that's one of the reasons you're having problems

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titanium_platypu:

okay

[23:32:03]

Juski:

before you ran mythtv-setup, did you import the mc.sql file with mysql -u root -p < database/mc.sql ?

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Juski:

(or something like it) ?

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titanium_platypu:

where should this database folder be found?

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titanium_platypu:

I looked all over for it

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titanium_platypu:

but couldn't find one

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Juski:

titanium_platypu: you on ubuntu?

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titanium_platypu:

yah

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Juski:

/usr/local/share/mythtv/database I think

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titanium_platypu:

root@calebs:/usr/share/mythtv/sql# ls

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titanium_platypu:

mc.sql

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titanium_platypu:

is it that?

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Juski:

yep

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titanium_platypu:

it's not called database....

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titanium_platypu:

but it has a file called mc.sql

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titanium_platypu:

k

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titanium_platypu:

so run that comman?

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titanium_platypu:

command*

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titanium_platypu:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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Juski:

wait. have you done the other database stuff? granting permissions etc ?

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titanium_platypu:

how can the root user not access it....?

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titanium_platypu:

uh, I added "mythtv" to a bunch of lines on /etc/groups

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titanium_platypu:

err /etc/group

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titanium_platypu:

is that what you mean?

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Juski:

nope

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Juski:

I mean more like in this page: http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/17/32/

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AngryElf:

so, the pvr-500 has two coaxial connections, and they're both suppose to be TV inputs....but one is marked TV and the other FM, are they both actually TV inputs?

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Juski:

AngryElf: one is a TV antenna/cable input, the other is FM

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abarbaccia:

AngryElf: one is TV one is FM – you need to use one TV, and one S-video/composite

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Juski:

both TV inputs go to both tuners

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Juski:

the FM line only goes to one of them – the first one I think

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AngryElf:

so i only need one TV cable conections and it splits it to the two tuners?

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Juski:

yes

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AngryElf:

ah, k...sweet

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Juski:

oh fuck.. the compiler segfaulted!

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titanium_platypu:

yes, I've done all of that.

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Juski:

internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (wtf?!)

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AngryElf:

on another note.....the PSU in my new Antec case(file server mythbackend ftp, etc...) died last night if I have to RMA the whole damn case i'm gonna be pissed

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Juski:

titanium_platypu: if you'd done all that you wouldn't have the problem of root@localhost being denied access, methinks

[23:38:46]

titanium_platypu:

well, I am X_X

[23:39:29]

titanium_platypu:

hm, now the one command on mc.sql works

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titanium_platypu:

but

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titanium_platypu:

it says:

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titanium_platypu:

ERROR 1007 (HY000) at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'; database exists

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titanium_platypu:

so, that means it's already done, right?

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Juski:

riiight. good

[23:39:56]

Juski:

so you must've done that bit already

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titanium_platypu:

okay....

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Juski:

start up mythtv-setup

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titanium_platypu:

okay

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Juski:

if the machine is to be a combined FE & BE, make sure the IP address in the first screen of the 'general' page is 127.0.0.1

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titanium_platypu:

err....

[23:41:16]

titanium_platypu:

this time it prompted me for a password

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titanium_platypu:

which I entered

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titanium_platypu:

I didn't get that last time I ran mythtv-setup

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titanium_platypu:

X_X

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Juski:

eh?

[23:41:31]

titanium_platypu:

you think that probably fixed it?

[23:42:04]

titanium_platypu:

I guess it didn't.

[23:42:07]

titanium_platypu:

ok, anyway....

[23:42:07]

titanium_platypu:

hang on.

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Juski:

you run mythtv-setup & it brings up a screen straight away – no entering passwords is needed, so what are you referring to?

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titanium_platypu:

no, before I got to that it prompted for some information like the name of the database and the mySQL password and stuff.

[23:42:45]

titanium_platypu:

anyways.

[23:42:50]

titanium_platypu:

yeah, I have 127.0.0.1 set.

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Juski:

right..

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Juski:

name of the database should be mythconverg. username & password for the DB would be mythtv & mythtv if you set them as suggested in most of the how-to guides

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abarbaccia:

Juski: if you run mythtv-setup with a different user adn the mysql.txt file is missing from the ~/.mythtv dir then it'll ask you for the info

[23:44:02]

Juski:

will it? heh. lesson learned then

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titanium_platypu:

yeah, that's what it prompted me for.

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Juski:

run mythtv-setup as the mythtv user

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titanium_platypu:

I set all of that stuff correctly.

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titanium_platypu:

oh, okay.

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Juski:

(like you should ideally)

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titanium_platypu:

can't connect to X server

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titanium_platypu:

because it's my regular user's X server....

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titanium_platypu:

any way to grant mythtv access?

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Juski:

its much easier to do all this as the mythtv user, on the mythtv user's own X session

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abarbaccia:

titanium_platypu: you can set all the settings as the user you're using and then just move the mysql.txt file over to the mythtv users file it should all work

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abarbaccia:

what you could also do is log out and log back in as user mythtv

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Juski:

it's not just about the mysql.txt file though. there's the xmltv config file too

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titanium_platypu:

okay

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titanium_platypu:

but I'm not using xmltv

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Juski:

and possibly device permissions

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titanium_platypu:

I'm using Zap2It / DataDirect

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titanium_platypu:

anyway, isn'

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titanium_platypu:

isn't my problem sort of some syntax error?

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titanium_platypu:

with the SQL server?

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titanium_platypu:

dinner time

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titanium_platypu:

be back in a few....

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titanium_platypu:

thanks for trying

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Juski:

so basically you get the error when you run mythfilldatabase

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titanium[dinner]:

correct

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Juski:

it'd have been easier to just say that ;-)

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Juski:

abarbaccia: going through your docs to install lirc – I've tried sudo make modules.. and the compiler segfaulted – any suggestions?

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abarbaccia:

Juski: thats odd for hte compiler to segfault

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abarbaccia:

do you have the exact error?

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Juski:

I got cc1: drivers/net/wireless/acx/ihw.c: Input/output error

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Juski:

drivers/net/wireless/acx/ihw.c:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault

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abarbaccia:

woah wait – are you in the lirc sources or the kernel sources?

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Juski:

oh fuck... read only filesystem?!

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abarbaccia:

becuase /net/wireless/acx is kernel stuff that i didnt think lirc used

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abarbaccia:

that's odd – mounted wrong? disk full?

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abarbaccia:

so a sudo df

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Juski:

abarbaccia: this is where I'm up to in yer guide: Â sudo make include/linux/version.h

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Juski:

$Â sudo make modules

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Juski:

I think the HDD has powered down.. uh oh

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Juski:

nm

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abarbaccia:

Juski: ohhhh compiling the modules of the linux source – right right

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Juski:

yup

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Juski:

HDD problem :-/

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abarbaccia:

well, you were doing it right – i think you should work on your hard drive problem and maybe then it'll be fixed ;-)

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Juski:

shit!

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Juski:

cheers anyway :)

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Juski:

bit of a cow that you can't just apt-get lirc_serial though

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Juski:

got a loose HDD power connector, of all things...

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Juski:

make modules is now nodding along nicely

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