| Sunday, May 14th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:22] | achew22: | dscoular did you find it? |
| [00:00:36] | dscoular: | achew22: I've copied mine to http://spug.servebeer.com/dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw |
| [00:00:44] | vaneck: | can anyone point out a channel.pl or similar script i can just drop into my bin directory? |
| [00:00:56] | dscoular: | achew22, grab it from there |
| [00:01:00] | achew22: | done |
| [00:01:03] | achew22: | rebooting as we speek |
| [00:01:12] | ** achew22 croses fingers ** | |
| [00:01:23] | ** dscoular wishes achew22 luck ** | |
| [00:01:33] | ** achew22 kicks his cat for good luck... ** | |
| [00:02:11] | scottder: | cat pees on achew22's computer....not such good luck |
| [00:02:12] | scottder: | :) |
| [00:02:24] | achew22: | i had a dog pee in one of my bosses computers |
| [00:02:27] | achew22: | it was really intersting |
| [00:02:29] | Juski: | vaneck: come now – flex those google muscles |
| [00:02:32] | achew22: | I don't even have a cat though |
| [00:02:42] | vaneck: | i'm flexing...just no luck yet |
| [00:03:11] | dscoular: | I remember when Apple had that cat get it's tail caught in an Apple Laserwriter and the owner got badly scratched trying to rescue it :) |
| [00:03:14] | Juski: | vaneck: I hear that mythtv has a number of channel changing scripts in its contrib directory |
| [00:04:33] | achew22: | "May 11 21:16:38 plantation kernel: [4294713.667000] drivers/media/dvb/b2c2/skystar2.c: the chip has 38 hardware filters |
| [00:04:36] | ** vaneck puts head down in shame after realizing Juski was right ** | |
| [00:04:36] | achew22: | YAY! |
| [00:04:43] | achew22: | thanks dscoular |
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| [00:05:02] | dscoular: | achew22: nae wuckin furries |
| [00:05:07] | achew22: | lets try this thing out |
| [00:05:09] | achew22: | well. |
| [00:05:16] | achew22: | no i'm going to go eat a meal then try this out |
| [00:05:33] | achew22: | if I type svn update in my mythtv folder will it update the source to .19-fixes release 99* |
| [00:05:54] | dscoular: | It will update to svn head |
| [00:06:37] | Tobbe: | Here's the log output from right before it craches and I end up at the log in screen: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/iHT3UL16.html |
| [00:07:29] | Tobbe: | Obviously there are a bunch of XvMC errors there, but I don't know what to do about them |
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| [00:08:36] | dscoular: | Tobbe, looks like your libraries aren't where they are expected to be |
| [00:08:50] | dscoular: | You could try reinstalling your NVidia driver |
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| [00:09:33] | Tobbe: | just running the setup program again? |
| [00:09:52] | dscoular: | I think so |
| [00:10:40] | dscoular: | If you do xdpyinfo do you see XVideo-MotionCompensation |
| [00:11:33] | Tobbe: | yes |
| [00:11:57] | dscoular: | Tobbe, and if you do "locate libXvMC.so" what do you get |
| [00:12:52] | Doctor: | is there a mythtv plugin for online radio? |
| [00:13:02] | Tobbe: | /usr/lib/libXvMC.so, /usr/lib/libXvMC.so.1.0.0, /usr/lib/libXvMC.so.1 |
| [00:13:04] | Juski: | mythstream |
| [00:13:12] | Juski: | not to be confuzzled with mythstreamtv |
| [00:14:00] | Juski: | and if you check the users mailinglist you will find someone who's fiddled with mythmusic to get it to play shoutcast streams |
| [00:14:20] | Doctor: | ah, I was looking at the xml for that today |
| [00:14:21] | dscoular: | Tobbe, seems like its looking for libXvMC.so1.0... which is weird |
| [00:15:02] | dscoular: | These lines are where I think the problem lies: |
| [00:15:05] | dscoular: | XvMCWrapper: Warning! Could not open shared library "libXv.so1.0" |
| [00:15:28] | dscoular: | XvMCWrapper: Could not load XvMC library "libXvMC.so1.0". Failing |
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| [00:16:13] | dscoular: | Tobbe, you could try making symbolic links from libXvMC.so1.0 to libXvMC.so.1 |
| [00:16:16] | Tobbe: | "locate libXv.so" gives the same results as libXvMC, but with libXv instead |
| [00:16:34] | Tobbe: | yeah, I'll try that |
| [00:16:54] | dscoular: | Tobbe, do it for both... you may need to run ldconfig |
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| [00:22:41] | Tobbe: | same errors, even after symlinks and ldconfig |
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| [00:27:54] | Tobbe: | libXvMC.so1.0 dles |
| [00:28:07] | Tobbe: | *doesn't give me a single hit on google... |
| [00:32:52] | achew22: | Tobbe try libXvMC.so dies |
| [00:34:16] | Tobbe: | hehe, "dles" was a typo of "doesn't", and when I went to erase it I hit Enter instead of BS... |
| [00:34:38] | Tobbe: | I ment to say: "libXvMC.so1.0 doesn't give me a single hit on google..." |
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| [00:35:44] | sphing: | isnt it so.1.0 |
| [00:36:29] | Tobbe: | sphing: that's the name of the file I have, but looking at the logfile it looks like it wants so1.0: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/iHT3UL16.html |
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| [00:47:32] | Tobbe: | running Ubuntu Breezy 64-bit if that's any clue |
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| [00:50:51] | sphing: | Tobbe: im just going off my memory im not home so i cant help much, but if thats what its looking for setup a symlink |
| [00:51:13] | Tobbe: | I have, didn't help, got the same result |
| [00:52:42] | sphing: | did you setup sym to libXv.so1.0 |
| [00:52:56] | Tobbe: | yeah, both |
| [00:52:57] | achew22: | has anyone tried mytharchive with the most recent mythtv-.19-fixes? |
| [00:53:32] | sphing: | Tobbe: is xv running in X? |
| [00:54:00] | Tobbe: | ? |
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| [00:54:22] | sphing: | as in X needs to be running xvmc before myth can |
| [00:54:53] | Tobbe: | haven't tried |
| [00:55:02] | sphing: | well theres your problem |
| [00:55:03] | Tobbe: | how could I check? |
| [00:55:11] | sphing: | X log file |
| [00:55:21] | sphing: | make sure your conf has dri running |
| [00:55:49] | Tobbe: | ohh, dscoular had me run xdpyinfo |
| [00:56:01] | Tobbe: | and it said XVideo-MotionCompensation |
| [00:56:25] | sphing: | grep -i dri /var/log/<xlogfile> |
| [00:56:27] | sphing: | i gotta run |
| [00:56:33] | dscoular: | Tobbe, I'm back |
| [00:56:45] | sphing: | make sure your x is settup correctly |
| [00:56:59] | Tobbe: | ok, thanks sphing |
| [00:57:24] | dscoular: | Tobbe, what happened when you restarted mythfrontend with the symlinks |
| [00:57:50] | Tobbe: | nothing, got the same error again |
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| [00:58:21] | achew22: | http://pastebin.com/716241 |
| [00:58:23] | dscoular: | Did you run ldconfig ? |
| [00:58:28] | Tobbe: | yes |
| [00:59:38] | dscoular: | Can you do ls -l /usr/lib/libXv*.so1* |
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| [01:01:29] | Tobbe: | yes |
| [01:02:23] | dscoular: | Tobbe, and the output would be... ? |
| [01:02:33] | Tobbe: | :) hold on |
| [01:03:36] | Tobbe: | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/9DNe1d57.html |
| [01:04:30] | Tobbe: | I'm IRCing on one machine and messing with myth on another... |
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| [01:06:50] | dscoular: | Tobbe, I'm stumped what about trying a strace -e open mythfrontend and watch what paths its actually trying to open for libXv* |
| [01:07:07] | dscoular: | Tobbe, I guess the other question is... why do you need xvmc really ? |
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| [01:07:57] | Tobbe: | because I'm hoping to get better performance |
| [01:08:26] | dscoular: | Tobbe, but do you really need it ? |
| [01:08:54] | Tobbe: | live tv stutters from time to time, so yeah |
| [01:09:19] | dscoular: | k, try the strace |
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| [01:09:43] | Tobbe: | I don't understand how it can stutter though, but it does... |
| [01:09:56] | dscoular: | Tobbe, and you have a 64bit proc ! |
| [01:09:59] | Tobbe: | sdtv on amd64 3200+ |
| [01:10:15] | dscoular: | I don't think you have a CPU issue then |
| [01:10:39] | Tobbe: | so what could it be? |
| [01:11:41] | LLyric: | HD content? |
| [01:11:52] | dscoular: | No he said SD |
| [01:12:06] | Tobbe: | yes, SD |
| [01:12:09] | ** LLyric can play SD frontend on his 600Mhz laptop, with crappy S3 video. ** | |
| [01:12:17] | LLyric: | So something is very wrong. |
| [01:12:32] | LLyric: | Does mplayer have the same performance problem? |
| [01:12:48] | Juski: | Tobbe: what version of nvidia driver are you using? |
| [01:12:49] | Tobbe: | no, it's only live tv |
| [01:13:07] | dscoular: | Tobbe, is dma on for your disks ? |
| [01:13:26] | Tobbe: | 8756 |
| [01:13:46] | Tobbe: | I have sata disks, do they have dma? |
| [01:13:53] | LLyric: | Heheh |
| [01:13:59] | Juski: | there was a problem a while ago with nvidia drivers hogging a lot of CPU |
| [01:14:01] | LLyric: | Yes, but it's a bit hairy in some distros |
| [01:14:36] | LLyric: | Does "hdparm -i /dev/sda" do anything useful? |
| [01:14:48] | dscoular: | Any regular errors in /var/log/messages |
| [01:14:55] | Juski: | Tobbe: do you use a PVR card or are you using software encoding? |
| [01:15:20] | Tobbe: | I have a pvr-150 |
| [01:15:26] | Juski: | ok.. |
| [01:15:34] | Juski: | try a different mpeg decoder method |
| [01:15:45] | Juski: | utils /setup > settings > TV > Playback |
| [01:16:02] | LLyric: | From the release notes: It is highly recommended if you are using the Nvidia binary VGA drivers that you use version 7676 or earlier as later revisions have serious problems with features like XvMC and OpenGL sync which can result in poor performance or lockups. (If you're running a version older than 7676 which provides all the features you need, you need not upgrade.) |
| [01:16:28] | Juski: | you have a choice between libmpeg, ffmpeg & XvMC – try one that you aren't using now (but only XvMC if it's installed) |
| [01:16:51] | Juski: | or try disabling opengl sync |
| [01:17:03] | Juski: | you can use nvidia-settings to toggle that off |
| [01:17:07] | Tobbe: | Juski: this whole conversation started because I'm trying to use XvMC |
| [01:17:31] | Juski: | Tobbe: with that much horsepower you should definitely be in no need of xvmc |
| [01:17:47] | Tobbe: | LLyric: I get HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
| [01:18:45] | Juski: | and the thing about SATA... it _should_ be using DMA but some linux drivers are fudged to emulate ATA |
| [01:19:10] | Juski: | silicon image controllers, for example |
| [01:19:24] | Tobbe: | LLyric: the wiki page about XvMC says to use 8756 |
| [01:19:29] | Juski: | early SATA chipsets were v. v. v. bad too |
| [01:19:46] | Juski: | Tobbe: try disabling opengl vsync |
| [01:20:01] | Tobbe: | ok |
| [01:20:24] | Juski: | I can't remember if nvidia ever fixed the issue they had with that |
| [01:20:41] | Tobbe: | "As of 2006-04–7, the currently recommended driver version is: 1.0.8756 as it fixes the OpenGL Vsync issues present in earlier versions" |
| [01:21:01] | dscoular: | Tobbe, do you have an ATA disk, USB-2.0 or Firewire disk you could temporarily try ? |
| [01:21:30] | Juski: | is SATA really that crap in Linux if you're unlucky? that's bad |
| [01:21:35] | Tobbe: | I think the harddrives could be the problem, they sound pretty much when the tv is stuttering |
| [01:22:03] | dscoular: | I wouldn't have thought so... try hdparm -Tt /dev/sda it may show the throughput |
| [01:22:04] | LLyric: | do you get high cpu usage when copying large files? |
| [01:22:09] | Tobbe: | dscoular: I do have a fat32 usb-2 disk |
| [01:22:26] | LLyric: | dscoular: with such a good cpu, the performance of the disks may not actually be affected, just high cpu usage |
| [01:22:31] | Tobbe: | is 350mb large enough? |
| [01:23:04] | Juski: | copy a recording of known size to a different filename & time it ;-) |
| [01:23:15] | dscoular: | I suspect I'm barking up the wrong tree |
| [01:23:22] | Juski: | eg cp file1.mpg file2.mpg |
| [01:23:48] | Juski: | divide the filesize by the time it takes & you come up with an approx. speed |
| [01:24:01] | Juski: | make sure it's a big file though, say 1GB or so |
| [01:24:10] | dscoular: | If playing back a recording is good but live tv isn't it's something to do with capturing while playing methinks |
| [01:24:30] | LLyric: | dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/junk bs=1000000 count=100 |
| [01:24:35] | ** havoc notes the bash 'time' function ** | |
| [01:24:39] | LLyric: | to desk disk-write speed. |
| [01:24:51] | havoc: | e.g. time cp file1 file2 |
| [01:25:04] | LLyric: | dd prints timing and size information |
| [01:25:19] | Tobbe: | just copied a 350mb file, cpu usage never went above 2% looking at "top" |
| [01:25:21] | Juski: | dscoular: he could try playing a recording while another is being recorded... |
| [01:25:33] | LLyric: | look at the cpu usage while you're copying via dd |
| [01:25:45] | Juski: | Tobbe: how about if you make a recording & play back a different recording at the same time? |
| [01:26:09] | LLyric: | cpu usage for dma-enabled disk should be <5% on your system |
| [01:26:34] | Tobbe: | going to try that dd command |
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| [01:27:07] | dscoular: | Juski, good plan |
| [01:27:26] | Juski: | I think that should give the same end result |
| [01:27:41] | Juski: | and it'll pretty much point to disk accesses |
| [01:28:15] | dscoular: | Tobbe, you don't see recurring errors in /var/log/messages do you ? |
| [01:29:05] | Tobbe: | dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/junk bs=1000000 count=100 said 0.193 seconds (520*10^6 b/s) |
| [01:29:13] | Tobbe: | dscoular: I'll check |
| [01:30:35] | Tobbe: | doesn't look like it, have a bunch of Resolved address and agpgart messages |
| [01:30:38] | LLyric: | Use a number more than 100 |
| [01:30:43] | LLyric: | that's Mbytes |
| [01:31:13] | LLyric: | 1000 say |
| [01:31:20] | LLyric: | look at cpu usage while it's running (top) |
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| [01:34:12] | Tobbe: | 1000 took 15.4s and cpu was < 1% |
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| [01:35:13] | Tobbe: | so disk speed is looking alright? |
| [01:35:34] | Tobbe: | could it be that I have too little ram? 512mb |
| [01:35:40] | LLyric: | disk is probably fine |
| [01:35:46] | dscoular: | Tobbe, no 512mb is fine |
| [01:35:54] | LLyric: | Nah. The laptop I mentioned above only has 384 |
| [01:36:13] | dscoular: | What are the agpgart messages ? |
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| [01:37:09] | Tobbe: | Found an AGP 3.0 comliant device.... Putting AGP V3 de.... Putting AGP V3 devi.... 8x mode |
| [01:37:41] | dscoular: | Also, just checking... this was a problem before you enabled deinterlacing, right ? |
| [01:37:54] | Tobbe: | yes |
| [01:38:22] | Tobbe: | haven't watched it that much with deintelaceing, so I don't know if it's better or worse now |
| [01:38:58] | Tobbe: | It's not like I get it all the time, but maybe once every hour it stutters a bit, and then it's fine again |
| [01:39:08] | dscoular: | Try Juski's suggestion of playing a recording while a recording is taking place. That should mimic live tv. |
| [01:39:43] | LLyric: | Is there some other scheduled job that's taking a bunch of cpu, perhaps? |
| [01:40:25] | ** LLyric realises that none of his mythmachines run at > 1Ghz ** | |
| [01:40:26] | Tobbe: | dscoular: I have to record something first then :) |
| [01:40:42] | Tobbe: | LLyric: don't think so |
| [01:41:19] | LLyric: | old laptop frontend 600Mhz, settop box front/back 800Mhz, new laptop cpu-speed down to 800Mhz |
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| [01:41:47] | LLyric: | admittedly the old laptop seems to have some cpu problem doing tv-out, though it works fine with just the screen |
| [01:41:51] | dscoular: | LLyric, Is that with or without XvMC ? |
| [01:41:59] | LLyric: | None of them have any xvmc |
| [01:42:05] | LLyric: | None are nvidia for that matter |
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| [01:42:26] | dscoular: | Excellent! |
| [01:42:38] | LLyric: | One is crappy s3 something, one is pvr-350 output, and the other is a mobile ATI thing |
| [01:44:09] | Tobbe: | watching liveTV and cpu is 14% |
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| [01:46:42] | Tobbe: | I switched to libmpeg2, to see if that is better than standard |
| [01:47:39] | fiveiron: | anyone have the problem of the audio being slightly ahead of the video? |
| [01:47:53] | Servo888: | When I enable the Bob deinterlace filter, for some reason my overlay things like volumn, channel information, starts flickering. |
| [01:48:16] | Tobbe: | Servo888: try Kernel deinterlace |
| [01:48:58] | Servo888: | Yah kernel one doesn't do that... |
| [01:49:27] | Tobbe: | so use that instead ;) |
| [01:51:12] | Servo888: | you know something... XvMC isn't working... |
| [01:51:27] | Servo888: | ~50% cpu right now... |
| [01:52:24] | xris: | LLyric: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-svn-rpmbuild.spec |
| [01:52:46] | ** LLyric looks ** | |
| [01:53:01] | LLyric: | I'm 95% sure I've found a bug, and have a fix, I'd just like to confirm it. |
| [01:53:22] | defaultro: | hi xris, what's up |
| [01:53:29] | xris: | LLyric: it's a total hack and breaks all kinds of rpm rules, but it does build packages from svn.. and it should be pretty easy to modify for non-svn |
| [01:53:42] | xris: | defaultro: not much. piles and piles of dead weeds, and now I have a sore back. :) |
| [01:53:55] | LLyric: | I've got the svn checkout, have applied my change locally, just want to build/test it |
| [01:54:02] | Servo888: | Ohhh – what version of the nvidia drive does mythtv recommend? It was one of the 7xxx series... |
| [01:54:23] | LLyric: | It is highly recommended if you are using the Nvidia binary VGA drivers that you use version 7676 or earlier as later revisions have serious problems with features like XvMC and OpenGL sync which can result in poor performance or lockups. (If you're running a version older than 7676 which provides all the features you need, you need not upgrade.) |
| [01:54:38] | Tobbe: | As of 2006-04–7, the currently recommended driver version is: 1.0.8756 as it fixes the OpenGL Vsync issues present in earlier versions, as well as fixing the AGP + XvMC issues on 6200 series cards. |
| [01:54:42] | dscoular: | Yes but will they ever update that message ? |
| [01:54:54] | xris: | LLyric: if you're doing it side-by-side with a non-svn version, make sure you have a different database (or a good backup).. svn will change all kinds of things in the db. |
| [01:54:56] | dscoular: | there have been several releases since 7676 |
| [01:54:57] | LLyric: | Hehehe. That's in the 0.19 release notes :) |
| [01:55:23] | Tobbe: | I just had a stutter :( |
| [01:55:33] | LLyric: | xris: I think a "real developer" would be able to confirm the problem in a couple of minutes |
| [01:56:02] | xris: | LLyric: most of the people who have time to check that (ie. danielk) aren't usually around on irc |
| [01:56:24] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch or Chutt might know, but they're usually busy |
| [01:56:32] | xris: | ok, I need food. haven't eaten today and it's 7pm. |
| [01:56:51] | dscoular: | LLyric, what is the problem ? |
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| [01:57:38] | LLyric: | dscoular: An off-by-one I think. See the attachments (screenshots) at http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1803 |
| [01:57:49] | defaultro: | xris, i also got grasses on places it should never grow |
| [01:58:07] | LLyric: | If you define six channels, and ask mythfrontend to display six on the guide, part of it only does five. |
| [01:58:28] | defaultro: | I don't know how those gardeners do it in such a way that grass never comes back |
| [01:59:57] | sphing: | does anyone have an m10k? |
| [02:00:23] | Juski: | I do |
| [02:00:32] | Servo888: | Anybody know where the hell the xvmc setting is in the settings table of mythconverg? |
| [02:00:56] | sphing: | Juski can you do 720p? |
| [02:01:24] | sphing: | you netboot it right |
| [02:01:26] | Juski: | sphing: apparently openchrome drivers will, with xvmc |
| [02:01:49] | Juski: | but I don't have any 720p material – strictly 720i |
| [02:02:34] | sphing: | did you ever figure out how to reboot it from a netboot? |
| [02:02:44] | Juski: | oops.. not 720i it's 576i |
| [02:02:57] | Juski: | 720x576i infact |
| [02:03:27] | Juski: | I think I've tested it & it worked but I can't remember since I've tested so much with it |
| [02:03:40] | Juski: | HDTV is not of my concern yet |
| [02:03:56] | sphing: | yea its starting to be for now |
| [02:04:03] | Juski: | sphing: nah I just hit the power button if it ever crashes – which it very very rarely does |
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| [02:04:49] | fiveiron: | anyone have the problem of the audio being slightly ahead of the video? |
| [02:04:57] | Juski: | still not got around to trying a newer version of minimyth to see if the kernel change makes any difference to the state of the LAN chip when it goes into powerdown |
| [02:05:01] | sphing: | yea reboot doesnt work, i just poweroff with the button |
| [02:05:04] | dscoular: | LLyric, I get the same problem... shall I try your patch ? |
| [02:05:30] | Juski: | fiveiron: you using software encoding? if so, see the troubleshooting section of the mythtv docs on the website |
| [02:06:07] | fiveiron: | will do... and hey... how come the audio doesnt stop when i exit mythtv? |
| [02:06:18] | Juski: | fiveiron: if you're using a plasma/LCD, try using mythtv's adjust audio sync feature |
| [02:06:20] | LLyric: | dscoular: yay, it's not just me. did you have to only define six channels to make it appear? |
| [02:06:44] | dscoular: | Yes its fine for 5 |
| [02:07:03] | Juski: | fiveiron: the docs will explain all. you need to mute the soundcard input the tv audio is plugged into – then make sure the record mixer is set to record for that input |
| [02:07:18] | fiveiron: | k |
| [02:07:25] | Juski: | right 3:07 in the a.m.... time I wasn't here |
| [02:07:28] | fiveiron: | thx man |
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| [02:10:42] | Servo888: | Anybody know what the hell the xvmc setting is called in the settings table of mythconverg? |
| [02:11:10] | SirPageno: | Servo888, not me... |
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| [02:12:27] | LLyric: | dscoular: I'm a bit concerned about the wide-ranging effects of changing the value of DISPLAY_CHANS : clearly some of the code works okay as it is |
| [02:14:33] | LLyric: | There appears to be some inconsistent use of DISPLAY_CHANS and desiredDisplayChans |
| [02:14:56] | LLyric: | I'm looking through the svn history to find out why the two exist |
| [02:18:02] | dscoular: | LLyric, I guess there has to be a limit on the number of channels the layout manager can fit on a page. |
| [02:18:46] | LLyric: | That's totally fine, I'm trying to understand why desiredDisplayChans is used anywhere other than the constructor... |
| [02:20:35] | LLyric: | It doesn't help that the code is undocumented :) |
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| [02:21:10] | hpAuto: | anyone know if the firmware for the pvr-150 is differant than for the 250? |
| [02:21:15] | Tobbe: | time for me to go to bed. Thanks a lot for all your help guys, I really appreciate it! |
| [02:22:59] | dscoular: | So the DISPLAY_CHANS is the number of channels the user has requested to fit on the page... maxchannels is the number of channels available minus one. |
| [02:23:59] | dscoular: | getting round to looking at the source now rather than your snippets on trac |
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| [02:28:56] | dscoular: | LLyric, yeah no idea why they have DISPLAY_CHANS and desiredDisplayChans |
| [02:29:16] | dscoular: | and dNum |
| [02:29:23] | LLyric: | Hehe, yeah |
| [02:29:43] | LLyric: | dNum seems to be reused for lots of different things, just a temporary variable to make code smaller?? |
| [02:29:56] | dscoular: | yeah... just saw that |
| [02:30:31] | dscoular: | the for loops to set x and y on the grid look fine |
| [02:31:50] | LLyric: | It looks like the channel-label-height is TOTAL/6, but the channel-program-height is TOTAL/5 |
| [02:32:33] | dscoular: | ooh... vert skateboarding just came on tv... I may be somewhat distracted... sorry LLyric |
| [02:32:33] | LLyric: | If I could build it here without breaking my system, I'd be able to use a debugger I guess |
| [02:32:58] | dscoular: | Me too... but I'm now distracted... sorry |
| [02:32:59] | LLyric: | dscoular: no problem, I'm just waiting for my recording to get enough ahead so I don't catch up before it ends :) |
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| [02:46:41] | dscoular: | LLyric, skateboard thing seems to have finished. and I've just remembered its still compiled with debug... I'll fire it up. |
| [02:50:41] | fiveiron: | ugh |
| [02:54:36] | fiveiron: | i'm not finding anything on getting the sound and video in sync, and the "adjust audio sync" doesnt work very well |
| [02:55:46] | fiveiron: | oh wait |
| [02:55:48] | fiveiron: | there it ... :p |
| [02:56:40] | fiveiron: | there it _is_... man i must be tired |
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| [03:08:58] | dscoular: | LLyric, trying a hack to see what happens when I add one to line 251 |
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| [03:12:26] | dscoular: | LLyric, are you still around ? |
| [03:12:46] | dscoular: | I think I've fixed it |
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| [03:20:28] | dscoular: | I've updated: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1803 |
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| [04:07:04] | defaultro: | hey guys, how do you insert your .mov .mp4 .wmv .iso files so it can be played under "Watch Videos"? I always do it via a INSERT sql statement. Is there any module in myth that it will make it easier? |
| [04:07:46] | Anduin: | defaultro: mythvideo, then the setup menu will have a video manager (that will scan) |
| [04:11:12] | defaultro: | hi |
| [04:11:22] | defaultro: | oh, i think, ihave that |
| [04:11:40] | dscoular: | defaultro, you can associate different file extensions with different players in the video manager |
| [04:11:57] | defaultro: | i think, that's how I added my shows before. And if i recall correctly, it connects to imdb too |
| [04:12:12] | defaultro: | ah, that's cool |
| [04:12:32] | defaultro: | i'm going to try now |
| [04:18:10] | defaultro: | where do i see the imdb number on the website? |
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| [04:33:51] | dscoular: | defaultro, encoded in the url |
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| [04:34:29] | defaultro: | i got it working |
| [04:34:42] | dscoular: | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274309/ becomes 0274309 |
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| [04:35:12] | defaultro: | ah |
| [04:35:28] | defaultro: | but what am doing now is renaming the title and I do a search imdb |
| [04:35:30] | defaultro: | it works |
| [04:35:43] | defaultro: | i tried the number earlier and it would only accept 4 numbers |
| [04:35:45] | dscoular: | defaultro, yes |
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| [04:36:01] | dscoular: | defaultro, I've never had that problem |
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| [04:40:20] | defaultro: | manual imdb is much easier :) |
| [04:40:25] | defaultro: | i pasted that on a wrong channel, LOL |
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| [05:02:25] | achew22: | has anyone played with mytharchive on the latest release of .19-fixes |
| [05:04:54] | dscoular: | achew22, not yet... is it better than mythburn ? |
| [05:05:06] | achew22: | I don't know — it wont compile |
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| [05:05:11] | dscoular: | :) |
| [05:05:11] | achew22: | http://pastebin.com/716460 |
| [05:05:56] | achew22: | anyone got any ideas? |
| [05:06:42] | dscoular: | What's your version of qt ? |
| [05:07:11] | achew22: | how do I check |
| [05:07:19] | achew22: | qt isn't really a program so I cant do --version |
| [05:08:27] | dscoular: | It's a library and still has an associated version... try qt-config --version |
| [05:08:34] | dscoular: | Remind me what distro you are using ? |
| [05:08:40] | achew22: | ubuntu |
| [05:09:05] | dscoular: | Sorry thats qtconfig --version |
| [05:09:13] | achew22: | doesn't exist |
| [05:09:27] | dscoular: | or use synaptic or apt-cache |
| [05:10:42] | achew22: | any idea of what it would be under |
| [05:10:53] | dscoular: | Actually, I don't think that's it. |
| [05:11:07] | dscoular: | Dead you get it from the svn head ? |
| [05:11:14] | achew22: | yes |
| [05:11:17] | achew22: | no |
| [05:11:18] | achew22: | wait |
| [05:11:19] | achew22: | lets see |
| [05:11:38] | achew22: | got it from svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mytharchive |
| [05:12:45] | dscoular: | You are trying to mix 0.20 and 0.19-fixes methinks |
| [05:12:54] | achew22: | I got QT3 |
| [05:13:02] | achew22: | where do I get the version that would work with .19? |
| [05:13:45] | dscoular: | I don't think it exists. |
| [05:13:52] | achew22: | then... |
| [05:13:53] | achew22: | what |
| [05:14:14] | achew22: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mytharchive/README |
| [05:14:18] | dscoular: | QT3 is the major release version... not the actual full version number |
| [05:14:53] | achew22: | "MythArchive is a MythTV style plugin that uses the Mythburn Script to create and burn DVD's from MythTV recordings, MythVideo files or any video files available on a MythTV system. It can also export recordings to a native archive format that can then be imported back into a mythtv system restoring all the associated metadata." |
| [05:15:02] | achew22: | oops wrong line |
| [05:15:08] | achew22: | "This plugin requires at least SVN Revision 9846 to run." |
| [05:15:27] | dscoular: | That SVN revision exists for both branches (probly) |
| [05:15:40] | dscoular: | It could be talking about 0.20 |
| [05:16:18] | dscoular: | of course I may be hopelessly confused about trunks and branches and changesets |
| [05:17:44] | dscoular: | If you want MythArchive I suspect you need the head from what is destined to become 0.20 |
| [05:18:10] | ** dscoular goes to get lunch ** | |
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| [05:33:22] | Ryushin: | Is anyone using a nvidia nforce3/4 motherboard. I'm really hesitent to puchase any more nvidia based hardware. |
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| [05:51:59] | mchou: | Ryushin: why do you say that?? |
| [05:53:04] | mchou: | Ryushin: it's not as if you have "better" alternatives, unless you want Intel :) |
| [05:54:42] | Ryushin: | Well, I would take VIA and even SIS over nvidia, if I can help it. And I'd take anything and everything over Intel. (Yea, I don't much care for Intel.) Can you tell. :) |
| [05:55:12] | mchou: | Ryushin: yeah, but you havent said why |
| [05:55:44] | Ryushin: | Why I don't like Intel? |
| [05:55:48] | mchou: | you could be a raving madman for all I know, not given to rational thoughts |
| [05:55:54] | mchou: | no, nvidia |
| [05:55:58] | Ryushin: | LOL |
| [05:56:16] | Ryushin: | Binary only drivers. That really erks me and I don't want them in my open system. |
| [05:56:29] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [05:56:50] | mchou: | who said you had to use binary drivers on a nvidia system? |
| [05:56:54] | Ryushin: | I don't know how well the linux community has reversed engineered the nforce3/4 chipsets. |
| [05:57:19] | mchou: | I use nvidia and the only binary drivers is the display |
| [05:57:24] | dscoular: | achew22, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/202197 |
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| [05:57:37] | Ryushin: | For awhile, I know you had to download the binary only drivers chipset drivers as well. |
| [05:57:43] | root_____: | hi guys.. |
| [05:57:52] | root_____: | I need a little help for compiling lirc. |
| [05:57:52] | Ryushin: | mchou: You're using a nforce board? |
| [05:58:08] | root_____: | it give some error related with .owner |
| [05:58:17] | mchou: | Ryushin: yup |
| [05:58:24] | Ryushin: | 3 or 4? |
| [05:58:28] | mchou: | 4 |
| [05:58:43] | Ryushin: | You're happy with it? Everything is supported? LAN too? |
| [05:58:49] | dscoular: | root_____, what distro ? |
| [05:59:11] | mchou: | Ryushin: I'm pretty happy w my nforce4 board. |
| [05:59:21] | mchou: | no proprietary drivers |
| [05:59:31] | root_____: | are you guys talking about nvidia 6150 based board? |
| [05:59:35] | mchou: | lan has marvell phy |
| [05:59:47] | root_____: | dscoular. debian... |
| [05:59:56] | root_____: | with kernel 2.6.16.16.. |
| [06:00:02] | Ryushin: | mchou: Okay, so it's not nvidia's lan. |
| [06:00:15] | mchou: | Ryushin: nope |
| [06:00:16] | Ryushin: | root_____: Are you running ivtv? |
| [06:00:54] | Ryushin: | mchou: Well, maybe I can find a nforce4 board with a non-nvidia gigabit lan. I guess I could give that a try? |
| [06:01:13] | root_____: | Ryushin,, try newegg,, buy MSI one |
| [06:01:14] | mchou: | Ryushin: sheesh, those are dime/dozen |
| [06:01:21] | mchou: | screw MSI |
| [06:01:27] | mchou: | MSI sucks |
| [06:01:28] | opello: | my nf4 has nvidia and marvel nics |
| [06:01:35] | mchou: | AVOID |
| [06:01:37] | root_____: | dscoular. no.. |
| [06:01:49] | root_____: | but I might have installed it.. |
| [06:02:05] | dscoular: | root_____, what problem are you trying to solve... and what is the error with lirc ? |
| [06:02:14] | root_____: | i think MSI 6150 based board got the hightest review |
| [06:02:19] | root_____: | I got one.. it is pretty good |
| [06:02:24] | root_____: | got mythtv workign on it |
| [06:02:32] | mchou: | Ryushin: if I had to do it all over again I'd buy ndorce3 instead w/AGP |
| [06:02:40] | mchou: | nforce3* |
| [06:02:47] | root_____: | dscoular. I got mythtv running.. I want to use mce usb remote.. |
| [06:02:49] | Ryushin: | Well, I'd rather by Tyan if I can help it. |
| [06:03:04] | root_____: | and that's why I was trying to compile lirc. |
| [06:03:14] | mchou: | Ryushin: pci-e aint exactly "prime time" yet |
| [06:03:21] | root_____: | it does't compile and gives error.. |
| [06:03:23] | dscoular: | root_____, so what is the error ? |
| [06:03:29] | root_____: | error: unknown field ‘owner’ specified in initializer |
| [06:03:33] | Ryushin: | root_____: I think you're going to need lirc cvs because of the latest kernel. |
| [06:03:49] | root_____: | how do I get that?? |
| [06:03:49] | dscoular: | what version did you download ? |
| [06:03:53] | Ryushin: | mchou: Yea, I'm sticking with agp for the time being. |
| [06:03:58] | root_____: | I tried both 0.8 and 0.7.2 |
| [06:04:07] | root_____: | bith got same error |
| [06:04:08] | mchou: | Ryushin: wise choice |
| [06:04:22] | Ryushin: | root_____: Yea, .8 didn't work for me, I had to check out the latest cvs, and that worked fine. |
| [06:04:53] | root_____: | cool. so how do I get the latest cvs? I am new to linuix so don't kmow much |
| [06:05:39] | Ryushin: | Ummm... How are you running 2.6.16.16, if you're new to linux? |
| [06:05:48] | root_____: | lol.. |
| [06:06:03] | root_____: | I am new in the sense I have been trying to let mythtv runnign since last 3 motnhs |
| [06:06:11] | root_____: | before that.. I have always been windows user |
| [06:06:19] | root_____: | so in 3 motnhs.. I got my DVB card running |
| [06:06:33] | mchou: | root_____: is that why you're logged in as root? :) |
| [06:06:35] | root_____: | and for the first time in last 3 months, 2 days back I finally got picture |
| [06:06:43] | root_____: | I installe dthe kernel from kanotix |
| [06:06:50] | root_____: | that's rgith |
| [06:06:51] | Ryushin: | Okay, because compiling a kernel isn't exactly a newbie thing that they do. :) |
| [06:07:10] | root_____: | yeah.. I am using bitchx command based irc |
| [06:07:13] | mchou: | Ryushin: compiling kernel is easy |
| [06:07:14] | Ryushin: | root_____: Well, apt-get install cvs |
| [06:07:34] | mchou: | Ryushin: all us old timers had to do it |
| [06:07:53] | dscoular: | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net :/cvsroot/lirc login |
| [06:07:54] | root_____: | i have cvs |
| [06:07:56] | Ryushin: | mchou: Well, it is if you know linux. For a newbie, they would think they would have a easier time flying then building a new kernel. |
| [06:07:57] | mchou: | Ryushin: not a question of newbie vs. experienced |
| [06:08:07] | dscoular: | hit return for the password |
| [06:08:22] | dscoular: | Then: cvs -z8 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net :/cvsroot/lirc co lirc |
| [06:09:10] | dscoular: | cd lirc; ./autogen.sh ; ./setup.sh; make |
| [06:09:16] | dscoular: | then make install |
| [06:10:49] | root_____: | cool.. runnign that right now.. |
| [06:10:51] | dscoular: | or simply read: http://www.lirc.org/cvs.html |
| [06:11:11] | mchou: | godamn it |
| [06:11:23] | dscoular: | p.s. having a nick as root on irc is a give away that you are a newb methinks |
| [06:11:29] | root_____: | lol.. yeah have that opened as well |
| [06:11:32] | mchou: | now my monitor is issuing a high pitched whine |
| [06:11:43] | root_____: | no longer :) |
| [06:12:00] | dscoular: | mchou, sounds like your monitor power supply is on its way out. |
| [06:12:02] | mchou: | maybe it time to invest in a good LCD display |
| [06:12:11] | root_____: | damm.. is theere any x gui based irc client? |
| [06:12:11] | mchou: | it's* |
| [06:12:39] | dscoular: | bitchX or irssi (I'm so very old I use xemacs and erc). |
| [06:12:49] | root_____: | yeah........lirc compiled |
| [06:12:50] | Ryushin: | root_____: xchat. |
| [06:13:04] | Ryushin: | There is even a port of xchat to windows. |
| [06:13:05] | mchou: | dscoular: it's not the power supply. the whine is to high for that |
| [06:13:19] | dscoular: | Capacitors ? |
| [06:13:20] | mchou: | dscoular: locate to high |
| [06:13:26] | mchou: | located* |
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| [06:15:04] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [06:15:05] | hi_dude: | I am here |
| [06:15:17] | mchou: | monitor should still be under warranty |
| [06:15:18] | hi_dude: | dscoular, are u there |
| [06:15:22] | hi_dude: | I am you newvie root |
| [06:15:32] | dscoular: | Hi hi_dude |
| [06:16:10] | hi_dude: | so after i isntall lirc, what do I need to do to use it from mythtv? |
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| [06:16:44] | Ryushin: | hi_dude: You wave the remote in front of the computer, and yell as loud as you can "work!!!" |
| [06:16:55] | hi_dude: | yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [06:16:57] | hi_dude: | that's cool |
| [06:17:00] | hi_dude: | I will do that ;-) |
| [06:17:02] | hi_dude: | lol |
| [06:17:06] | ** dscoular splits his sides laughing ** | |
| [06:17:16] | ** dscoular cleaning up mess now ** | |
| [06:17:33] | Ryushin: | there is a good howto on the myth web site on setting up lirc. |
| [06:18:07] | dscoular: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote |
| [06:18:18] | hi_dude: | cool.. got the remote working.. its getting the keys |
| [06:18:32] | hi_dude: | yeah.. that's what I am following right now.. |
| [06:18:39] | hi_dude: | some how today I am right on track.. |
| [06:18:46] | hi_dude: | with all your help guys ;-) |
| [06:19:03] | defaultro: | hey guys, is there a way to change the recording format, from nuv to mpg? |
| [06:19:33] | dscoular: | defaultro, nuvexport |
| [06:19:40] | defaultro: | no, sorry |
| [06:19:43] | mchou: | defaultro: huh??? |
| [06:19:59] | defaultro: | when our tuner records a program, it records it as nuv file |
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| [06:20:08] | mchou: | it is mpeg unless you use sw encode |
| [06:20:29] | defaultro: | was really wondering why mplayer only shows color green when i play the nuv file |
| [06:20:31] | mchou: | defaultro: not if you're using 0.19 |
| [06:20:35] | hi_dude: | dscoular.. |
| [06:20:42] | hi_dude: | how do I creat the config file for mythtv |
| [06:20:43] | hi_dude: | ? |
| [06:20:43] | defaultro: | im using .19 |
| [06:20:58] | mchou: | then those files are mpg |
| [06:21:05] | defaultro: | it's the analog part of my fusion lite card |
| [06:21:14] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:21:18] | dscoular: | defaultro, try file filename.nuv |
| [06:21:22] | mchou: | why you using that?? |
| [06:21:32] | defaultro: | i have channels that i like in comcast |
| [06:21:36] | defaultro: | especially for kids |
| [06:21:58] | defaultro: | 3040_20060514011300.nuv: data |
| [06:22:16] | dscoular: | hi_dude, it tells you in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote |
| [06:22:34] | defaultro: | who's that link for? |
| [06:22:34] | dscoular: | defaultro, so you probly want nuvexport |
| [06:22:46] | defaultro: | i don't need to run that |
| [06:22:46] | dscoular: | It's for hi_dude |
| [06:22:51] | defaultro: | oh, lol |
| [06:23:14] | dscoular: | defaultro, nuvexport will export nuv to whatever... I thought that was what you wanted |
| [06:23:18] | defaultro: | i just don't know what i did, it doesn't record the sound anymore from the analog part of the chip |
| [06:23:26] | defaultro: | dscoular, nope |
| [06:23:29] | hi_dude: | dscoular, once I get irw getting keys.. what to do after that |
| [06:23:31] | defaultro: | i was only mentioning that |
| [06:23:40] | hi_dude: | It doesn't say anything an d in mythfrontend, it doesn't navigate |
| [06:23:49] | dscoular: | If you have irw getting keys your almost home! |
| [06:23:55] | defaultro: | hi_dude, you got to run the daemon |
| [06:24:06] | defaultro: | or you can build myth with native lirc |
| [06:24:23] | dscoular: | You can create a ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [06:25:31] | hi_dude: | lircrc, what will that contain? |
| [06:25:44] | defaultro: | it will contain things that google finds |
| [06:25:55] | hi_dude: | hehe |
| [06:26:04] | defaultro: | honestly |
| [06:26:15] | hi_dude: | ok,,.google is finding right now |
| [06:26:28] | defaultro: | or lirc.org doc is awesome too |
| [06:27:11] | dscoular: | hi_dude, read the friendly manuals at lirc.org |
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| [06:28:25] | dscoular: | http://geekstuff.no-ip.com/mythtv/lircrc |
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| [06:30:18] | dscoular: | but replace irexec with mythtv |
| [06:30:56] | dscoular: | hi_dude, actually I think you can ignore that. |
| [06:31:24] | hi_dude: | yeah, it contained mythtv |
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| [06:34:30] | hi_dude: | cooll. |
| [06:34:35] | hi_dude: | that's dscoular |
| [06:34:42] | hi_dude: | it wors like charm. |
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| [06:34:47] | ** dscoular blushes ** | |
| [06:34:54] | hi_dude: | now a reall real newbie question |
| [06:35:36] | hi_dude: | how do I select a channel from program guide? |
| [06:35:36] | hi_dude: | i mean in mythtv |
| [06:35:36] | hi_dude: | when I press ok or enter, nothing happens |
| [06:35:42] | hi_dude: | actually as of now ,EPG data is not there |
| [06:36:02] | achew22: | um... |
| [06:36:05] | dscoular: | To get to the EPG you must have hit enter methinks |
| [06:36:14] | achew22: | hi_dude you push m if you havent redefined it |
| [06:36:24] | hi_dude: | I pressed guide |
| [06:36:31] | achew22: | guide? |
| [06:36:40] | hi_dude: | I mean guide button on the rmeote |
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| [06:36:48] | achew22: | you need to remap enter to be the button |
| [06:36:48] | dscoular: | Maybe if there's no data in the guide enter is meaningless. |
| [06:37:08] | achew22: | no — 1st off my money would be on remaping this |
| [06:37:10] | dscoular: | Hit the back button and just try the enter button |
| [06:37:40] | dscoular: | that will verify whether the enter works outwith an empty epg |
| [06:37:50] | hi_dude: | enter button work.. I think if EPG data is not there, it doesn't show anything on enter |
| [06:38:07] | dscoular: | hi_dude, that would seem to be logical, captain |
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| [06:38:14] | ** dscoular wiggles spock-like ears ** | |
| [06:38:35] | achew22: | enter brings up the recording information for a program when you have EPG of course it wont change the channel |
| [06:38:43] | achew22: | press m (I think) to change the channel to make sure that it works |
| [06:38:54] | dscoular: | achew22, it's configurable |
| [06:39:07] | achew22: | indeed it is but by default it is set to m |
| [06:39:19] | achew22: | dscoular: I got this one — please let me handle it |
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| [06:40:48] | hi_dude: | achew22, yes m works |
| [06:40:53] | hi_dude: | in program guide |
| [06:41:14] | achew22: | go to "Utility/setup | Setup | TV Settings | Program Guide 1 | page 2" the option is called "Use select to change the channel in the program guide" |
| [06:41:23] | achew22: | make that checked and your ok button will then work |
| [06:42:39] | hi_dude: | cool.. and then how does the menu will show up that I believe currently shows up on enter (provided u have EPG data) |
| [06:42:56] | hi_dude: | right now, the guide button select the channel as well |
| [06:43:16] | achew22: | you have to map that too I beleive |
| [06:43:20] | achew22: | I'm not sure as I don't use a remote |
| [06:43:25] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [06:43:27] | hi_dude: | thanks.. |
| [06:43:27] | achew22: | I would be willing to take a very educated guess if you would like |
| [06:43:37] | hi_dude: | now another linux newbie question.. |
| [06:43:48] | hi_dude: | I have to make sure that lircd start when I reboot th machien |
| [06:43:52] | achew22: | yse |
| [06:43:52] | hi_dude: | where do I need to specify that? |
| [06:43:54] | achew22: | yes* |
| [06:44:00] | achew22: | cd /etc/init.d |
| [06:44:03] | achew22: | then type ls |
| [06:44:13] | achew22: | sorry |
| [06:44:15] | achew22: | ls lirc* |
| [06:44:38] | achew22: | that * is a wildcard char so it will list all that start with lirc |
| [06:45:20] | hi_dude: | yeah.. there is only 1 lirc file |
| [06:45:26] | achew22: | okay |
| [06:45:37] | achew22: | thats a script that tells the computer to start lirc with it |
| [06:45:44] | achew22: | thats good — it will start with the machine |
| [06:45:48] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [06:45:53] | hi_dude: | now another one :) |
| [06:45:56] | achew22: | your a windows refugee right? |
| [06:46:04] | hi_dude: | yeah... :( |
| [06:46:18] | hi_dude: | lol.. |
| [06:46:25] | achew22: | thats akin to putting a link (or the program directly which is a very mean trick) into startmenu/startup |
| [06:46:40] | hi_dude: | cool.. I am getting slowely |
| [06:46:47] | achew22: | I'm here all night |
| [06:46:56] | hi_dude: | that;s good to knwo.. |
| [06:46:57] | achew22: | I just had 3 pepsis and I woke up 8 hours ago |
| [06:47:25] | hi_dude: | my wife has already told me that I need to put the system back by tomorrow morning. |
| [06:47:33] | hi_dude: | she doesn't care if its windows or linux |
| [06:47:35] | achew22: | okay |
| [06:47:38] | achew22: | it will be linux |
| [06:47:40] | achew22: | and it will work |
| [06:47:45] | achew22: | and I will do it myself if I have to |
| [06:47:46] | hi_dude: | ther is no good frontend for DVb in windows |
| [06:47:56] | achew22: | what dvb card do you have? |
| [06:48:05] | hi_dude: | twinhan 102G |
| [06:48:13] | achew22: | haven't heard anything about that card |
| [06:48:21] | hi_dude: | its a budget card. |
| [06:48:25] | hi_dude: | very popular; |
| [06:48:29] | hi_dude: | $50 |
| [06:48:30] | achew22: | meh — I have a VERY budget card |
| [06:48:33] | hi_dude: | cheap |
| [06:48:33] | achew22: | $40 |
| [06:48:41] | hi_dude: | hmm.. |
| [06:48:49] | achew22: | have you got it working yet? |
| [06:48:50] | hi_dude: | what card do you have? |
| [06:48:56] | hi_dude: | yes.. card is working fine |
| [06:48:59] | achew22: | great |
| [06:49:07] | hi_dude: | can watch all HD channel as well from B*V |
| [06:49:23] | hi_dude: | HD was my main reason for goind with DVB |
| [06:49:25] | achew22: | no more saying "another 'newb' question though" just say "another question" |
| [06:49:53] | hi_dude: | so tell me, hwo do I make my system do to standby adn come back automatically when it needs to record |
| [06:50:06] | hi_dude: | I also will have to configure it so that mythttv starts when I reboot |
| [06:50:17] | achew22: | well... its going to take a little work but we can do that too |
| [06:50:45] | achew22: | what are you running and I'm curious as to what country you live in (I would like to know if I can help you with EPG) |
| [06:50:47] | hi_dude: | :) I am glat I foudn you today :D |
| [06:50:56] | hi_dude: | I am in NA. |
| [06:51:04] | achew22: | there are tons of people in this channel who know TONS more than me |
| [06:51:07] | hi_dude: | runnign debian with kanotix kernel 2.6.1.6 |
| [06:51:08] | achew22: | and I might ask you a question |
| [06:51:18] | hi_dude: | yes? |
| [06:51:22] | ** dscoular is glad achew took over ;) ** | |
| [06:51:29] | hi_dude: | hehe |
| [06:51:35] | achew22: | dscoular I think knows as much — just in different areas |
| [06:51:43] | hi_dude: | dscoular.. thansk dude for your help |
| [06:51:51] | achew22: | I work tech support for a living so we can do this |
| [06:51:58] | hi_dude: | cool.. |
| [06:52:01] | achew22: | okay |
| [06:52:20] | achew22: | okay so whats next on your todo list? sleep? |
| [06:52:33] | hi_dude: | I think for EPG, I will need to compile sources.. as of now I hacve isntalled debian packages for mythtv from CCC |
| [06:52:44] | hi_dude: | computer sleep.. not me... :) |
| [06:52:54] | achew22: | okay-- you will use xmltv I beleive |
| [06:53:04] | hi_dude: | no. I want to use EIT.. |
| [06:53:08] | hi_dude: | whateve that is.. |
| [06:53:26] | hi_dude: | that I think I can manaage as I was able to compile and patch it for DN EIT etc on suse 10 |
| [06:53:33] | hi_dude: | from sources |
| [06:53:44] | hi_dude: | I need to make system standby when not in use or from remote |
| [06:53:49] | hi_dude: | and then bring it back from remote |
| [06:53:57] | hi_dude: | or automatically for recording |
| [06:54:13] | achew22: | yeah |
| [06:54:32] | achew22: | okay lets work on standby |
| [06:54:36] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [06:54:44] | achew22: | I haven't done this myself but I looked into it and I think this will do what you want |
| [06:55:34] | achew22: | we need to setup nvram-wakeup |
| [06:55:35] | hi_dude: | suspend2 is what I need if I did my homework |
| [06:55:44] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [06:55:48] | achew22: | myth has builtin support for this |
| [06:55:53] | hi_dude: | what is nvram-wakeup? |
| [06:55:58] | achew22: | I would like to use that unless you know of a good way to do that |
| [06:56:32] | hi_dude: | ok. lets use that.. |
| [06:56:40] | achew22: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythwelcome |
| [06:56:45] | hi_dude: | but as of now, I cann't hibernate or standby my system manually |
| [06:56:51] | achew22: | ohh |
| [06:56:56] | achew22: | we need suspend2 then |
| [06:57:01] | achew22: | sudo apt-get install suspend2 |
| [06:57:41] | eiggirC: | right – who killed undernet? |
| [06:57:42] | hi_dude: | E: Couldn't find package suspend2 |
| [06:58:05] | achew22: | okay.... |
| [06:58:11] | achew22: | apt-cache search suspend |
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| [06:58:55] | achew22: | hi_dude i would tell you what to do but i'm on ubuntu (based off of debian but doesn't use the same apt sources) |
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| [06:59:26] | hi_dude: | suspend2-userui |
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| [06:59:32] | hi_dude: | is the nearest |
| [06:59:38] | achew22: | yeah — good way to go because it will install the base too if you don't have it |
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| [07:00:52] | hi_dude: | it installed.. but I don't see any ui any where |
| [07:01:01] | achew22: | you have to run it silly |
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| [07:01:15] | hi_dude: | i know but what do I run? |
| [07:01:16] | ikonia: | get some OS support |
| [07:01:26] | hi_dude: | there is no icon anywhere |
| [07:01:28] | hi_dude: | no shortcut |
| [07:01:32] | ikonia: | get some OS support |
| [07:01:34] | achew22: | hi_dude shortcuts aren't ever made |
| [07:01:35] | ikonia: | this is for mythtv |
| [07:01:43] | achew22: | ikonia stfu — if I want to help him thats my buisness |
| [07:01:52] | ikonia: | hey ok – no need for the language |
| [07:01:54] | achew22: | this is also related to myth |
| [07:02:00] | adante: | say with transcoding, is there a way to specify an aspect ratio? |
| [07:02:29] | adante: | myth is producing some.. odd aspect ratios.. |
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| [07:02:36] | hi_dude: | thanks man.. u are awesome... I really wish I knew more.. I am learning.. |
| [07:02:36] | achew22: | adante as far as I know it uses the same what it came in as |
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| [07:03:02] | achew22: | hi_dude I'm in month 4 of linux... I'm still learning and people who are in year 12 are still learning-- get used to it |
| [07:03:03] | adante: | achew22: hmm after i transcode the aspect ratio changes from 1.22 to 1.25 |
| [07:03:10] | achew22: | crazy! |
| [07:03:17] | adante: | not that either of those make sense but.. yeah heh |
| [07:03:30] | ikonia: | hi_dude it looks like your using ubuntu, you may find it easier to chat in ubuntu and get your machine setup to a "base" level how you like it before progressing with myth |
| [07:03:36] | adante: | its supposed to be 16:9 heh |
| [07:03:42] | hi_dude: | ok.. I installed suspend2-userui |
| [07:03:52] | ikonia: | the guys in ubuntu have tips/tricks that you may find useful and easier |
| [07:03:52] | achew22: | ikonia its debian — were setting up suspend2 so that we can do mythwelcome and sleep n' stuff |
| [07:03:53] | hi_dude: | but how do I verify that its installed |
| [07:04:06] | achew22: | hi_dude it... just... is... |
| [07:04:19] | ikonia: | ahhh debian, ok same principal but in #debian it doesn't sound like the machine is setup "completley" |
| [07:04:21] | hi_dude: | :-/ |
| [07:04:27] | achew22: | in the command prompt type "suspend2-userui" |
| [07:05:03] | achew22: | ikonia if someone didn't have mysql installed would you kick them to the mysql channel or tell them to install it? |
| [07:05:31] | hi_dude: | it says command not found. |
| [07:05:37] | achew22: | hi_dude what desktop are you using (kde/gnome) |
| [07:05:39] | ikonia: | no, I'm not kicking him anywhere, I'm suggesting that if his machine isn't setup he may find it easier to use the offical support channel to get the machine setup to a baselevel |
| [07:05:42] | hi_dude: | gnome |
| [07:05:52] | ikonia: | somegeek: he maybe missing codecs, libraries etc etc |
| [07:06:14] | ikonia: | apologies don't know why "eg:" mapped to "somegeek" |
| [07:06:20] | achew22: | go to logout and try the sleep/standby option (I dont remember what its called) |
| [07:06:32] | achew22: | eg:? |
| [07:06:39] | achew22: | oh |
| [07:06:41] | ikonia: | achew22 bug in my client |
| [07:06:44] | achew22: | nevermind |
| [07:06:49] | achew22: | sorry that was me being ignorant |
| [07:06:56] | hi_dude: | I don't have that option.. also, whe I went to suspen2.org, it was saying somethign about kernel patch etc |
| [07:07:00] | ikonia: | achew22 don't you have to run the gnome menu updater to make the susped option appear |
| [07:07:07] | hi_dude: | my kernel probably is not patched for suspend2 |
| [07:07:14] | achew22: | I didn't... but maybe |
| [07:07:18] | ikonia: | or log out and log back in so XDG_DATA dir is refreshed |
| [07:07:32] | ikonia: | I didn't think debians installs did that automaticlly |
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| [07:09:42] | hi_dude: | on suspend2 site, it doesn't show it has download for 2.6.16.16 |
| [07:10:03] | ikonia: | hi_dude do you have the suspend kernel module loaded ? |
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| [07:11:03] | hi_dude: | I dont think so |
| [07:11:38] | ikonia: | you may want to check that |
| [07:12:19] | hi_dude: | its not laode |
| [07:12:24] | hi_dude: | not loaded |
| [07:12:25] | defaultro: | hey brothers, should I hear any sound if i do this, cat something > /dev/dsp |
| [07:13:28] | achew22: | hi_dude I thought you said you were on 2.6.1 |
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| [07:13:50] | hi_dude: | no.. I am 2.6.16.16 |
| [07:13:56] | achew22: | okay |
| [07:14:11] | ikonia: | hi_dude are you sure, I don't think debian had a .16.16 kernel released |
| [07:14:22] | ikonia: | (just double checking with you) |
| [07:14:47] | hi_dude: | ikonia.. this is installed using kanotix.. |
| [07:15:00] | ikonia: | kanotix ? |
| [07:15:06] | ikonia: | I'm not aware of that tool |
| [07:15:08] | hi_dude: | I isntalled using debian net install cd |
| [07:15:12] | achew22: | ikonia its like knoppix |
| [07:15:18] | [1]lucas: | [hey does anybody know what one would need to install on windows to have directx be able to read ivtv mpeg2 files? |
| [07:15:19] | hi_dude: | and then upgraded the kernel |
| [07:15:28] | ikonia: | so you've installed the kernel from another distro ? |
| [07:15:36] | hi_dude: | yes |
| [07:15:39] | achew22: | [1]lucas no |
| [07:15:40] | ikonia: | whoaaaaaa |
| [07:15:43] | hi_dude: | but kanotix is debian based only |
| [07:15:53] | ikonia: | dbian based is different to debian usable |
| [07:16:12] | achew22: | doesn't mean they cant compile their own kernel |
| [07:16:16] | hi_dude: | its livecd kind of |
| [07:16:22] | ikonia: | kind of ? |
| [07:16:28] | ikonia: | it either is or isn't |
| [07:16:32] | hi_dude: | its mostly useful for livecd |
| [07:16:32] | achew22: | some people use it to install |
| [07:16:36] | achew22: | thats why |
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| [07:16:43] | hi_dude: | as it has most of the drivers |
| [07:16:53] | ikonia: | I'd really not recommend using kernels from other distros |
| [07:17:05] | Varanger: | I have built my own rc receiver and it is not working :( |
| [07:17:06] | hi_dude: | I used it because got it working on nvidia 6150 board whcih is mine to have audio |
| [07:17:07] | achew22: | ikonia its based on debian but they compiled the kernel for a new one |
| [07:17:16] | Varanger: | It isn't even detected by the kernel |
| [07:17:25] | ikonia: | but other distros even if based on debian may use/apply different patches |
| [07:17:29] | achew22: | Varanger I would pin the problem down to the hardware |
| [07:17:31] | ikonia: | may be built with a different compiler |
| [07:17:32] | ikonia: | etc |
| [07:17:38] | achew22: | ikonia please go read the kantoix site |
| [07:17:39] | ikonia: | not critical but can cause problems |
| [07:17:49] | ikonia: | fair enough |
| [07:17:50] | achew22: | hi_dude where were we |
| [07:18:02] | hi_dude: | I couldn't get suspend2 to install |
| [07:18:07] | achew22: | it is installed |
| [07:18:10] | achew22: | logout login |
| [07:18:12] | hi_dude: | there is no suspend2 or ui |
| [07:18:18] | achew22: | it should be there when your back |
| [07:18:30] | achew22: | do you have another computer you can continue to talk on while we do that |
| [07:18:30] | hi_dude: | hmm.. lets see |
| [07:18:56] | hi_dude: | yeah.. |
| [07:18:56] | Varanger: | achew22: Yes, it is... it is a hardware problem, as I said, it isn't even detected by the kernel |
| [07:19:04] | achew22: | make another |
| [07:19:08] | achew22: | check solder points |
| [07:19:08] | achew22: | etc. |
| [07:19:09] | hi_dude: | I am booting that up |
| [07:19:16] | achew22: | I'll wait |
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| [07:20:27] | achew22: | is it worth it to upgrade ivtv to 0.4.5 from 0.4.4 if its working already... aka are there any new cool features |
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| [07:21:50] | adante: | aussies ahoy? |
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| [07:22:02] | hi_dude: | i am back |
| [07:22:12] | achew22: | hi_dude are you USA? |
| [07:22:25] | hi_dude: | yes |
| [07:22:30] | achew22: | okay |
| [07:22:31] | hi_dude: | how about you? |
| [07:22:38] | achew22: | Colorado native |
| [07:22:47] | achew22: | I almost misspelled colorado.... thats sad |
| [07:23:46] | achew22: | hi_dude you logged in yet? |
| [07:24:12] | hi_dude: | achew22... something bad has happend.. |
| [07:24:20] | achew22: | ohh god... |
| [07:24:20] | hi_dude: | gdm is not able to start properly |
| [07:24:32] | hi_dude: | I got some text sayig gailed to start x |
| [07:24:43] | hi_dude: | do i wan to iew the outpit |
| [07:25:04] | hi_dude: | ahh. its failed to laod nvidia driver |
| [07:26:14] | achew22: | okay... |
| [07:26:17] | achew22: | is it installed? |
| [07:26:28] | hi_dude: | yeah... |
| [07:26:36] | achew22: | ctrl+alt+backspace |
| [07:26:41] | hi_dude: | it was fine untill I installed the latest kernel |
| [07:26:52] | hi_dude: | that's when i saw this.. |
| [07:26:54] | achew22: | you need to install it again in that case |
| [07:27:07] | hi_dude: | abut then I reinstalled the nvidia driver and it worked |
| [07:27:10] | achew22: | new kernel == reinstalling drivers |
| [07:27:42] | hi_dude: | and now again |
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| [07:27:50] | hi_dude: | doing that again.. |
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| [07:29:38] | achew22: | got it yet? |
| [07:30:23] | hi_dude: | almost.. |
| [07:30:37] | hi_dude: | damn,, everything breaks at the same time |
| [07:30:46] | hi_dude: | I had isntalled wirelss card drver as well |
| [07:30:54] | hi_dude: | ecauuse of that my network is giving problem on that |
| [07:31:06] | achew22: | wow.... |
| [07:31:08] | hi_dude: | but I will get it back.. just fw minutes |
| [07:31:34] | hi_dude: | no.. x is messed up bu gitme |
| [07:31:37] | hi_dude: | ig time |
| [07:31:43] | hi_dude: | let me start in the old kernel |
| [07:31:43] | achew22: | hi_dude — if I stop responding say my name, it will make it beep and since my speekers are loud my house will beep so I will coem back |
| [07:31:55] | achew22: | hi_dude I don't upgrade kernel unless i HAVE to |
| [07:32:20] | hi_dude: | ok |
| [07:33:52] | hi_dude: | I upgraded becase of lirc only |
| [07:34:06] | hi_dude: | it seems x is messed big tme |
| [07:34:15] | hi_dude: | its not coming up. :( |
| [07:35:05] | hi_dude: | how do I know what the process id of gdm |
| [07:35:13] | achew22: | sudo pkill gdm |
| [07:35:29] | achew22: | just cut the power if your trying to reboot |
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| [07:37:45] | achew22: | [1]lucas can you please fix your connection? |
| [07:38:02] | ikonia: | he's probably not even here |
| [07:38:06] | ikonia: | idle connection dropping |
| [07:38:11] | achew22: | someone should zline him |
| [07:38:19] | ikonia: | that would be helpful |
| [07:38:22] | achew22: | !zline lucas.demon.nl |
| [07:38:27] | achew22: | didn't work.... |
| [07:38:41] | achew22: | too bad |
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| [07:40:27] | achew22: | hi_dude where did you go? |
| [07:40:48] | hi_dude: | I am here |
| [07:40:53] | achew22: | whats up? |
| [07:40:55] | hi_dude: | my system is screwed |
| [07:40:58] | hi_dude: | no x any more |
| [07:41:09] | achew22: | reboot to old kernel... |
| [07:41:12] | hi_dude: | cann't find screens |
| [07:41:17] | achew22: | startx |
| [07:41:17] | hi_dude: | even that doesn't work |
| [07:41:23] | hi_dude: | nothing. nope |
| [07:41:30] | achew22: | does it have the driver? |
| [07:41:36] | hi_dude: | yes |
| [07:41:40] | hi_dude: | driver is tehre |
| [07:41:46] | hi_dude: | but it doesnt find it |
| [07:41:53] | achew22: | hi_dude just do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| [07:41:58] | hi_dude: | I just did that |
| [07:42:00] | hi_dude: | no luck |
| [07:42:10] | hi_dude: | I remmeber this happend before as well |
| [07:42:10] | achew22: | what does it say? |
| [07:42:28] | hi_dude: | connection reset by per on X server |
| [07:42:29] | achew22: | I hate to say this — but do the same thing to fix it if you have had the same problem |
| [07:42:32] | hi_dude: | no screens found |
| [07:42:44] | hi_dude: | yea ..need to google |
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| [07:43:19] | achew22: | would you mind connecting through VNC so that we could do that while you deal with X? |
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| [07:43:50] | ikonia: | a kernel update shouldn't have effected your X config |
| [07:43:53] | ikonia: | only the nvidia module |
| [07:45:44] | hi_dude: | it worked after kernel update.. |
| [07:45:51] | achew22: | did you reboot? |
| [07:46:10] | ikonia: | the reboot is where the new kernel kicks in |
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| [07:57:06] | hi_dude: | I found the original post |
| [07:57:16] | achew22: | what post? |
| [07:57:50] | hi_dude: | If installing the original nvidia drivers from the nvidia.com drivers download page with the official driver script, use --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/. Otherwise not only the driver itself will be installed in /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/drivers or /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers, but also the OpenGL |
| [07:57:51] | hi_dude: | libraries might not work. |
| [07:58:09] | achew22: | there you go.... |
| [07:58:45] | hi_dude: | only if it work |
| [08:00:37] | hi_dude: | now some font eror |
| [08:00:42] | hi_dude: | I remember this as well |
| [08:00:46] | achew22: | thats an easy fix — install them |
| [08:00:51] | hi_dude: | couldn't find defalt font fixed |
| [08:01:13] | hi_dude: | how do yo search in cache again? |
| [08:01:22] | achew22: | apt-cache search |
| [08:02:12] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [08:02:16] | hi_dude: | got up and running... |
| [08:02:18] | achew22: | yay |
| [08:02:21] | achew22: | what were we doing |
| [08:03:32] | hi_dude: | suspend.. |
| [08:03:38] | hi_dude: | but I need to reboot |
| [08:03:44] | hi_dude: | to the newere kernel |
| [08:03:49] | achew22: | fine... |
| [08:04:41] | hi_dude: | whiel reooting,, I get soem message for lirc saying modules not loaded |
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| [08:04:51] | octan: | howdy all.. |
| [08:04:56] | achew22: | greetings |
| [08:05:01] | octan: | can someone help me a bit with my ivtv card |
| [08:05:12] | octan: | i just installed the ivtv module |
| [08:05:27] | octan: | but when i try ivtv-tune -c 28 i get this error |
| [08:05:36] | achew22: | okay.... |
| [08:05:36] | octan: | ioctl VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY failed |
| [08:05:43] | octan: | so im woundring what have i done wrong |
| [08:05:45] | achew22: | google is your friend |
| [08:05:54] | octan: | i also see this from dmesg |
| [08:06:02] | octan: | cx25840 2–0044: 1x1 is not a valid size! |
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| [08:06:13] | octan: | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13981 pls take a look and see if you see any thing wrong! |
| [08:07:12] | hi_dude: | ok.. so back |
| [08:08:00] | achew22: | hi_dude okay... so what were we doing |
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| [08:09:07] | achew22: | octan they look to be initlizing o where is the problem? |
| [08:09:16] | hi_dude: | I don;t think any suspend fucntinality is added |
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| [08:10:39] | achew22: | echo -n "sleep" > /syspower/state |
| [08:10:40] | achew22: | try that |
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| [08:11:13] | achew22: | [1]lucas I hate you so much... |
| [08:11:55] | ikonia: | ala cartman |
| [08:12:04] | achew22: | yep — watching southpark as we speek |
| [08:12:07] | octan: | achew22 ? |
| [08:12:13] | ikonia: | as am I |
| [08:12:21] | achew22: | i'm watching the FEMA one |
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| [08:13:39] | hellO-hi_dude: | i am here as hello hi dude |
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| [08:14:03] | achew22: | type /nick hi_dude |
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| [08:14:18] | hi_dude: | :0 |
| [08:14:25] | hi_dude: | achew22... |
| [08:14:25] | achew22: | not too bad... |
| [08:14:30] | achew22: | thats the name |
| [08:14:43] | hi_dude: | not sure how far we are gonne get |
| [08:14:52] | achew22: | we will get somewhere... |
| [08:14:55] | achew22: | how did that work? |
| [08:15:31] | hi_dude: | bash: /syspower/state: No such file or directory |
| [08:15:59] | hi_dude: | if you go to suspend2.net, it doesn't list current kernel |
| [08:16:05] | hi_dude: | only 2.6.9 was listed |
| [08:16:34] | achew22: | hi_dude wrong |
| [08:16:40] | achew22: | echo -n "sleep" > /sys/power/state |
| [08:16:46] | achew22: | maybe it was me |
| [08:16:48] | achew22: | but thats what it should be |
| [08:17:07] | hi_dude: | bash: echo: write error: Operation not permitted |
| [08:17:11] | achew22: | sudo |
| [08:17:17] | achew22: | sudo echo -n "sleep" > /sys/power/state |
| [08:18:25] | hi_dude: | I am root |
| [08:18:31] | achew22: | why are you root? |
| [08:18:46] | hi_dude: | :) i am logged in as root.. |
| [08:18:50] | achew22: | thats bad |
| [08:18:55] | hi_dude: | yeah.. |
| [08:19:36] | hi_dude: | hwo do I make other user that "SUDO" thingy? |
| [08:20:18] | achew22: | you add them to the sudoers file |
| [08:20:33] | achew22: | it is /etc/sudoers |
| [08:21:02] | achew22: | check what groups are allowd to sudo (on my computer its %admin and %sudo |
| [08:21:31] | hi_dude: | and how do I cehck that? |
| [08:21:44] | achew22: | nano/pico/vi/gedit |
| [08:21:50] | achew22: | there are more |
| [08:21:51] | achew22: | kate |
| [08:22:02] | achew22: | I guess you could scp in and use notepad if you wanted |
| [08:22:13] | achew22: | ohh |
| [08:22:15] | achew22: | check the groups |
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| [08:23:13] | hi_dude: | anyways.. that I can do later.. I think I can manage that.. |
| [08:23:18] | achew22: | look in /etc/group |
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| [08:24:02] | hi_dude: | what do we do fro pwoer management |
| [08:24:12] | achew22: | everything from ACPI |
| [08:24:32] | achew22: | okay — lets get back to things |
| [08:24:34] | achew22: | "apt-get install nvram-wakeup" |
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| [08:25:34] | hi_dude: | ok done |
| [08:25:41] | achew22: | after this step it can turn your mobo into a doorstop... so no blaming me if it does so |
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| [08:26:00] | achew22: | sudo sh /usr/sbin/guiess-helper.sh |
| [08:26:34] | achew22: | Follow the instructions from the script, it will ask you to change the bios settings and reboot several times. |
| [08:26:47] | hi_dude: | it didn't ask me anything../ |
| [08:26:55] | hi_dude: | My bios is confiugred properly |
| [08:26:59] | achew22: | sweet |
| [08:27:23] | achew22: | did it tell you the .conf file? |
| [08:27:46] | hi_dude: | umm.. it says hwo to load the module, that's it |
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| [08:30:07] | hi_dude: | ok..loks liek I am gonna sleep in some time.. |
| [08:30:11] | hi_dude: | feelling relaly tired.. |
| [08:30:16] | hi_dude: | what do you think? |
| [08:30:23] | hi_dude: | are we going somewhere? |
| [08:30:27] | achew22: | yeah |
| [08:30:33] | achew22: | I'm reading a little bit then we will continue |
| [08:30:50] | hi_dude: | ok |
| [08:30:53] | achew22: | run mythwelcome |
| [08:32:26] | hi_dude: | mythwelcome? |
| [08:32:33] | achew22: | you will see in a little |
| [08:32:38] | hi_dude: | dont I need to get that from some where? |
| [08:32:47] | achew22: | if myth is installed its on there |
| [08:33:17] | hi_dude: | yeah,, its there |
| [08:33:42] | achew22: | okay |
| [08:33:45] | achew22: | is it loaded |
| [08:33:49] | achew22: | or did it load mythfrontend? |
| [08:34:17] | hi_dude: | it laoded mythfrontend and when I exited thatm, its there |
| [08:34:21] | hi_dude: | runnning.. |
| [08:34:23] | achew22: | okay |
| [08:34:25] | achew22: | push F11 |
| [08:34:32] | hi_dude: | showing retriebving status |
| [08:34:52] | hi_dude: | yeah.. some options |
| [08:36:26] | Tobbe: | what resolution should I use on my TV for playing back PAL SDTV? |
| [08:37:16] | Tobbe: | 768x576? or 720x576? |
| [08:37:27] | achew22: | hi_dude sorry — didn't see your msg |
| [08:37:48] | hi_dude: | ok.. what next? |
| [08:37:55] | achew22: | change command to shutdown to mythshutdown |
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| [08:39:54] | achew22: | hi_dude you still here? |
| [08:40:21] | hi_dude: | yes |
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| [08:40:24] | hi_dude: | ok.. changed that |
| [08:40:32] | achew22: | changed what? |
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| [08:41:01] | hi_dude: | shutdown to mythshutdown |
| [08:41:29] | achew22: | okay |
| [08:41:46] | achew22: | nvram did it tell you the reboot command? |
| [08:42:30] | hi_dude: | ? |
| [08:42:35] | hi_dude: | not sure what you neman? |
| [08:42:40] | achew22: | did nvram tell you the command for reboot |
| [08:42:51] | hi_dude: | when> while installing? |
| [08:42:54] | hi_dude: | no |
| [08:43:02] | achew22: | crap... |
| [08:43:33] | hi_dude: | achew, will you be here tomrrow? |
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| [08:44:40] | achew22: | hi_dude: we are almost done |
| [08:44:49] | hi_dude: | really? |
| [08:44:51] | achew22: | that will be fine — lets not worry about it |
| [08:44:59] | achew22: | the restart thing |
| [08:45:03] | achew22: | you wont ever restart |
| [08:45:09] | hi_dude: | yeah.. |
| [08:45:09] | achew22: | well — you wont ever do a full hardware reboot |
| [08:45:24] | hi_dude: | yes.. i just want standby adn resu,e |
| [08:45:38] | achew22: | this will turn it off and then turn on when you want it |
| [08:45:44] | achew22: | push i |
| [08:45:56] | hi_dude: | while on mythwelcome? |
| [08:45:58] | achew22: | yes |
| [08:46:05] | achew22: | this sets the starttimes and stoptimes |
| [08:46:55] | hi_dude: | yeah.. but that's maual. |
| [08:46:59] | achew22: | set those |
| [08:47:05] | achew22: | maual? |
| [08:47:07] | hi_dude: | Iset to what? |
| [08:47:17] | achew22: | do you ever watch tv in the morning? |
| [08:47:17] | hi_dude: | yeah. I mean what are those for.. |
| [08:47:24] | hi_dude: | yes |
| [08:47:29] | achew22: | set it to when you wake up |
| [08:47:34] | achew22: | as the start for the 1st |
| [08:47:38] | achew22: | then when you go to work for the 2nd |
| [08:47:41] | achew22: | oops |
| [08:47:47] | achew22: | set it to when you go to work for the end time |
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| [08:48:02] | achew22: | then for the 2nd set it to when you get home -10 min and when you go to bed normaly |
| [08:48:14] | hi_dude: | ok.. I got that.. |
| [08:48:27] | achew22: | okay is it set? |
| [08:48:35] | hi_dude: | but that means it will turn on the system.. |
| [08:48:40] | hi_dude: | right? |
| [08:48:40] | achew22: | yes... |
| [08:49:01] | achew22: | what are you saying? |
| [08:49:02] | hi_dude: | What I was lookign for is, my system is always on, but standby (or sleep) |
| [08:49:11] | achew22: | it wakes up for recordings |
| [08:49:16] | achew22: | it wakes up during those times |
| [08:49:22] | achew22: | it will only be off when your not there |
| [08:49:25] | hi_dude: | when I want to watch, I press a remtoe button and its up in 3 sec |
| [08:49:37] | hi_dude: | when Iam done, I press a button and its back to sleep |
| [08:49:55] | achew22: | you can't do the press a button thing unless you have a really cool wireless keyboard |
| [08:50:14] | achew22: | and standby is 20–40 sec. |
| [08:50:15] | hi_dude: | MCE remote can put the system in standby in windows |
| [08:50:20] | hi_dude: | and bring it back. |
| [08:50:28] | hi_dude: | no in my case its 5 sec |
| [08:50:32] | achew22: | okay... |
| [08:50:45] | hi_dude: | is that possible in linux? |
| [08:50:53] | achew22: | I don't think so |
| [08:50:56] | achew22: | you could write a script |
| [08:51:09] | achew22: | but I don't think linux is aware of ir when its standby |
| [08:51:17] | hi_dude: | its not linix.. |
| [08:51:19] | hi_dude: | its the bios. |
| [08:51:23] | achew22: | ?? |
| [08:51:30] | achew22: | your bios is aware of IR? |
| [08:51:33] | hi_dude: | the USB reciever can trigger the wakup and system will be on |
| [08:51:40] | achew22: | okay... |
| [08:51:42] | stuarta: | depends what your mobo supports for wake on... |
| [08:51:45] | hi_dude: | yes, it gives power to usb when in standby |
| [08:51:55] | achew22: | i know that — I use serial for my remote though |
| [08:52:02] | achew22: | did you buy mce? |
| [08:52:15] | hi_dude: | I have an MCE remote |
| [08:52:21] | hi_dude: | a* |
| [08:52:28] | achew22: | okay... |
| [08:52:50] | hi_dude: | ok.. I really need that suspend2 to work |
| [08:53:03] | hi_dude: | that's waht I want..suspend to RAM and back |
| [08:53:23] | hi_dude: | is it possible to configure lirc to do something ? like starting mythfrontend. |
| [08:53:30] | hi_dude: | suspending? |
| [08:54:17] | achew22: | you should tell lirc to run shutdown |
| [08:54:58] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [08:55:06] | hi_dude: | ok.. l |
| [08:55:12] | hi_dude: | will u be here tomorrow |
| [08:55:15] | hi_dude: | I got to go nwo.. |
| [08:55:19] | achew22: | unlikely... |
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| [08:55:25] | hi_dude: | but thnaks for you help man.. |
| [08:55:27] | hi_dude: | why? |
| [08:56:13] | achew22: | its mothers day |
| [08:56:16] | achew22: | http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html |
| [08:56:30] | achew22: | see on there how it says power button begin then it has config pointing to a script |
| [08:56:39] | achew22: | you should find a script online that makes it sleep and tell it to run that |
| [08:56:53] | hi_dude: | ok.. |
| [08:56:54] | achew22: | the only problem with your solution is that it wont wake up for recording stuff |
| [08:57:09] | hi_dude: | no? |
| [08:57:12] | achew22: | nope |
| [08:57:26] | hi_dude: | even if I use mythwelcome? |
| [08:57:32] | achew22: | that shuts down |
| [08:57:36] | achew22: | and remember you didn't want that |
| [08:57:43] | hi_dude: | ahh.. |
| [08:57:48] | achew22: | are you willing to trade 100% on time for no sleep |
| [08:58:26] | hi_dude: | anyways.. |
| [08:58:40] | hi_dude: | I gotta go now.. |
| [08:58:42] | hi_dude: | thanks man.. |
| [08:58:47] | hi_dude: | have a good night. |
| [08:58:50] | achew22: | you too |
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| [09:01:08] | achew22: | that was a tremendous waste of time |
| [09:02:06] | LLyric: | dscoular: shouldn't the fix be: if (DISPLAY_CHANS > maxchannel + 1) DISPLAY_CHANS = maxchannel + 1; // +1 on both? |
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| [09:03:54] | seme_: | hi guys |
| [09:06:13] | seme_: | can anyone help me.. I'm running mythtv on my gentoo box but when I try to watch live tv it says that it can't open /mnt/olddata/videos/recordings/1004_20060514050509.mpg... it spits this error out over and over until it fails saying file not found |
| [09:06:22] | seme_: | I have permissions to write to that directory |
| [09:06:30] | seme_: | and so does the mythtv backend user |
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| [09:06:55] | stuarta: | have you set it up to use that directory? |
| [09:07:02] | seme_: | yes |
| [09:07:15] | seme_: | I don't quite understand why this is happening |
| [09:09:52] | seme_: | its odd |
| [09:10:07] | seme_: | when I look at the scheduled recordings to delete it shows me a recording |
| [09:10:13] | seme_: | and I can't delete them |
| [09:10:20] | seme_: | but I know nothing is supposed ot be recording |
| [09:10:27] | seme_: | at least I haven't set any |
| [09:13:12] | eiggirC: | seme_: does that file exist? |
| [09:13:27] | seme_: | very odd.. tvtime can show me the tv perfectly |
| [09:13:38] | eiggirC: | you might need to touch /mnt/olddata/videos/recordings/1004_20060514050509.mpg |
| [09:13:41] | eiggirC: | then you can delete it |
| [09:13:45] | seme_: | well this is a fresh install and nothing was in that directory but yes now it exists |
| [09:13:52] | eiggirC: | if the file was deleted outside of myth then it will get confused |
| [09:13:56] | seme_: | its not that... I think the mythbox is trying to record something |
| [09:14:00] | seme_: | this is a fresh install |
| [09:14:06] | eiggirC: | maybe your backend still had data in the mythconverg tables ? |
| [09:14:19] | seme_: | no I blew away the db |
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| [09:15:20] | eiggirC: | okay |
| [09:15:27] | eiggirC: | well try the touch command above |
| [09:15:34] | eiggirC: | then see if you can delete it within myth |
| [09:16:33] | seme_: | didn't work.. |
| [09:16:43] | seme_: | and if I try to watch tv again it creates a different file |
| [09:18:49] | seme_: | hrm... when I try to delete I get the error |
| [09:19:13] | seme_: | FingBuf(/path/to/file/file.mpg): Invalid file (fd 17) when opening '/path/to/file/file.mpg' |
| [09:19:21] | seme_: | it just keeps repeating that over and over |
| [09:19:52] | seme_: | I think that was because of the preview video option... |
| [09:20:01] | seme_: | it was trying to play the video and the file was bad |
| [09:21:32] | seme_: | I've also been watching the mythbackend logs and there is absolutely nothing in it other then the starting up message |
| [09:22:31] | eiggirC: | you're on the right track |
| [09:22:34] | eiggirC: | keep working on it |
| [09:22:38] | eiggirC: | don't give up |
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| [09:30:53] | seme_: | ok I've gone over the config files again and I don't see what I'm doing wrong here |
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| [09:39:30] | alan__: | hi all, guess what.. I have a problem ;) - |
| [09:40:10] | alan__: | on the select a recording to watch, it's jumping 2 lines on each key press (eg down arrow) |
| [09:40:23] | alan__: | anyone got any ideas.... |
| [09:40:48] | alan__: | - I've just run mythfrontend on another machine – connected to the same database, and getting the same results. |
| [09:41:35] | seme_: | that is odd |
| [09:41:35] | seme_: | what version are you running |
| [09:41:35] | seme_: | ? |
| [09:41:52] | alan__: | 0.19 – hold on I'll just double check. |
| [09:42:52] | alan__: | yeap – debian packaged 0.19–0.6 |
| [09:43:08] | seme_: | ok so I just verified that my myth setup works for dvd, mp3, and playing video files I have |
| [09:43:16] | seme_: | so the only problem is tv |
| [09:43:16] | seme_: | damn |
| [09:43:53] | alan__: | It's been working ok for a few weeks, but ocassionally skiping a recording when you scroll down, but today it's gone loopy and skipping alot. |
| [09:44:16] | seme_: | are you using a wireless keyboard? |
| [09:44:50] | alan__: | on the main box yes, but this other box on the network is using a standard keyboard.. -> and shows the same behaviour |
| [09:45:53] | seme_: | thats odd |
| [09:46:06] | alan__: | if I press upupdown, it only goes up one, but if I press Up-> it goes up 2.. |
| [09:46:09] | seme_: | damn it I have to get some sleep before mothers day |
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| [09:49:01] | caitlin: | shit, is it mothers day today? |
| [09:49:05] | caitlin: | i bet it is as well |
| [09:49:06] | seme_: | yup |
| [09:49:14] | caitlin: | bugger, and the day i *become* a mum too |
| [09:49:17] | stuarta: | depends where you are... |
| [09:49:52] | eiggirC: | alan__: yeah I get that on my laptop, but only after I watch something |
| [09:50:06] | eiggirC: | alan__: press down down up rapidly in that order to get where you want to be |
| [09:50:25] | caitlin: | oh, well sod my mum, my sister is a real mum, and she's making me the sprogs godmother today, so tehre's enough damn mothers around |
| [09:50:52] | eiggirC: | caitlin: there's never enough mothers. |
| [09:50:55] | eiggirC: | ever |
| [09:51:01] | eiggirC: | so... 8-P |
| [09:51:06] | eiggirC: | g'night all |
| [09:51:46] | caitlin: | um |
| [09:51:58] | caitlin: | are you a mother obsessed kind of person? |
| [09:52:07] | caitlin: | you can't more mothers than people for example |
| [09:52:22] | caitlin: | +have |
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| [09:58:20] | seme_: | damnn.. I see a lot of other people have the same problem as I do |
| [09:58:23] | seme_: | but no resolution |
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| [10:03:19] | DGnome: | mothersday.. yay |
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| [10:06:29] | caitlin: | aww, the black eyed peas go too low for my speaker set up to handle |
| [10:06:56] | ikonia: | mothers day was ages ago in the uk |
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| [10:13:27] | Mika_i: | why i cant record two channel same time if both is in same mux |
| [10:13:46] | stuarta: | nobody has written the support yet |
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| [10:13:54] | Mika_i: | :( |
| [10:13:58] | stuarta: | it has been started.... |
| [10:14:15] | doc_: | hi there |
| [10:18:31] | stuarta: | hello. |
| [10:19:05] | choenig: | hi, after two years without a mythtv setup I just made a new setup. A MBE and two FEs. One of the FEs works fine, but the other is behaving strange ... |
| [10:19:54] | choenig: | pressing pause opens the OSD but only "0:01 of 0:01" is displayed all the time and the progressbar doesn't update all the time, too |
| [10:19:59] | choenig: | any quick idea what to look for? |
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| [10:21:23] | stuarta: | morning juski |
| [10:21:33] | Juski: | morning stuarta |
| [10:22:05] | ** ikonia nods to Juski ** | |
| [10:22:11] | Juski: | I just read a great post on the mythtvtalk forum – adding web radio & TV feeds to mythtv's menus very simply :) |
| [10:22:50] | Mika_i: | Juski: link? |
| [10:23:15] | Juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . p;highlight= |
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| [10:29:51] | dscoular: | LLyric, I don't think so... that would change the meaning of DISPLAY_CHANS IMHO |
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| [10:33:34] | Tobbe: | I can't figure out how to output in native PAL resolution to my tv... This is xorg.conf: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/PTTa2896.html 720x576 isn't in the list of selectable resolutions |
| [10:33:45] | Tobbe: | Xorg.log: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/b2fp5Q12.html |
| [10:35:53] | Tobbe: | "No valid modes for "720x576i,720x576i"; removing." Why do I get that? |
| [10:36:09] | Tobbe: | I have ModeLine "720x576i" 13.875 720 744 808 888 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync interlace in my monitor section |
| [10:37:25] | dscoular: | Tobbe: is this for an ordinary TV or a progressive display ? |
| [10:38:02] | gardengnome: | morning guys |
| [10:38:06] | gardengnome: | still at it, i see :) |
| [10:38:16] | Tobbe: | right now I have both my tv and my lcd connected |
| [10:38:25] | stuarta: | morning gardengnome... |
| [10:38:40] | Tobbe: | I'm going to disconnect the lcd as soon as I get the TV working |
| [10:38:50] | gardengnome: | hi stuarta |
| [10:38:53] | Tobbe: | (standard TV connected to svideo) |
| [10:39:00] | dscoular: | Well, I'd go with 800x600 for TV ma sel' |
| [10:40:48] | Tobbe: | I've heard it's better to use the TVs native resolution... |
| [10:42:06] | Tobbe: | I can't even use 800x600, I think it's because it says 75Hz, and I can't change it. Don't know if the TV can handle that |
| [10:42:35] | gardengnome: | Tobbe: well, on my geforce 4 mx, i use 800x600@60hz. the tv-encoder chipset will handle the rest |
| [10:42:43] | dscoular: | I've heard most TVs can only cope with 640x480 or 800x600 maybe someone else on the list or the faq has the answer |
| [10:43:23] | Tobbe: | I'm running 1024 now, and I get a picture, but it ain't pretty |
| [10:43:34] | gardengnome: | Tobbe: try 800x600 @ 60 hz |
| [10:43:43] | puthre: | TV's only work with PAL or NTSC |
| [10:43:48] | Tobbe: | I can't select 60Hz though |
| [10:44:02] | Tobbe: | There's only 75Hz in that dropdown list |
| [10:44:11] | gardengnome: | puthre: *sigh* yes. that's why the tv encoder chip *will* output PAL or NTSC to them. |
| [10:44:16] | puthre: | the videocard will convert whatever resolution you choose to PAL/NTSC |
| [10:44:27] | gardengnome: | Tobbe: looks like you will have to edit your X config |
| [10:44:56] | Tobbe: | what do I need to change? this is what I have now:http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/PTTa2896.html |
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| [10:45:30] | puthre: | the best video output I got is from vga to scart converter |
| [10:45:38] | gardengnome: | Tobbe: you can compare it to mine: http://laga.ath.cx/~laga/XF86Config-4.myth-bedtv – but please ignore everything related to the 720x576 resolution. |
| [10:45:45] | gardengnome: | that didn't work well for me. |
| [10:45:57] | gardengnome: | puthre: some home-brewn circuit? |
| [10:46:05] | puthre: | gardengnome: yeap |
| [10:46:38] | puthre: | gardengnome: it does not mess the interlace |
| [10:46:40] | gardengnome: | puthre: nice. i've finished mine yesterday, but it won't work properly. looks like the TV doesn't sync correctly |
| [10:47:05] | puthre: | gardengnome: what schematics did you use? |
| [10:47:19] | gardengnome: | puthre: http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/vga2scart/circuit &ndash ; this one |
| [10:47:41] | puthre: | gardengnome: on one of my tv, I works whithout any schematics, justt by gluying wires :D |
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| [10:48:05] | gardengnome: | puthre: nice. but i wanted to make sure i'm not blowing my TV up ;) |
| [10:48:16] | gardengnome: | although several of my favourite songs suggest that o_O |
| [10:48:27] | puthre: | gardengnome: :D |
| [10:48:54] | gardengnome: | well, i've probably just got some pins mixed up, that happens |
| [10:49:07] | puthre: | gardengnome: I used the same schematics and worked, but after that I simply used VSYNC+HSYNC=CSYNC and it worked |
| [10:49:27] | puthre: | gardengnome: it does work only on one of my tv's, the older one |
| [10:49:31] | Juski: | you cannae do that with nerviddyerrr |
| [10:49:46] | Tobbe: | gardengnome: how do you connect your computer to the TV? |
| [10:49:51] | ** gardengnome slaps Juski ** | |
| [10:50:04] | gardengnome: | Tobbe: with that XF86Config? i'm using composite there |
| [10:50:06] | Juski: | !trout gardengnmome |
| [10:50:06] | ** MythLogBot slaps gardengnmome with a trout on behalf of Juski... ** | |
| [10:50:10] | gardengnome: | Juski: make sense, please |
| [10:50:27] | Tobbe: | gardengnome: yeah, but what is that? |
| [10:50:29] | gardengnome: | puthre: heh. the TV i'm using here is like 15 years old, i think. |
| [10:50:30] | Juski: | you cant specify composite sync output with nvidia cards |
| [10:50:33] | gardengnome: | Tobbe: yellow cinch cable |
| [10:50:41] | Juski: | that's why you need the converter cct |
| [10:50:47] | Tobbe: | ohh, I see :) |
| [10:50:50] | Juski: | ATI let you though |
| [10:50:56] | Juski: | and others |
| [10:50:56] | gardengnome: | Juski: oh, nice |
| [10:51:20] | gardengnome: | Juski: that's why i found this guide where they just glued the wires together. they were also using an ATI card |
| [10:51:26] | Juski: | gardengnome: if I have the same trouble I'll get an oscilloscope on the case |
| [10:51:37] | puthre: | gardengnome: I also had some problems with the pin 19–20 on scart as far as I remember, they are inverted on male/female jacks |
| [10:51:49] | Juski: | gardengnome: what puthre said |
| [10:51:53] | gardengnome: | TBH, i don't mind soldering the small circuit. soldering the cable is way more annoying |
| [10:52:08] | Juski: | there's also a different cct which uses logic gates |
| [10:52:35] | Juski: | gardengnome: as an experiment, try it without the 68R resistor in circuit – i.e. bypass it |
| [10:52:44] | Juski: | the sync level might be too low |
| [10:52:52] | gardengnome: | Juski: maybe i can borrow an oscilloscope from a friend, but for now, i'll just make sure i'Ve got everything hooked up correctly. my X log says that it's using the correct modeline, so i'm not very worried about that at all |
| [10:53:07] | puthre: | gardengnome: and I understood that for some tv's, if you cannot select rgbinput, you need to give 3V or so on a pin, I cannot remember what pin |
| [10:53:23] | Juski: | the blanking pin I think |
| [10:53:31] | gardengnome: | puthre: i'Ve hooked 5V to pin 16, that takes care of it |
| [10:53:41] | gardengnome: | without that, i didn't get a picture at all |
| [10:53:48] | puthre: | gardengnome: ok |
| [10:53:59] | puthre: | gardengnome: what modeline did you used? |
| [10:54:08] | Juski: | gardengnome: is there like _no_ sync – i.e. can you get a semi good picture does it roll.tear/what? |
| [10:54:25] | gardengnome: | puthre: so, where did you hook up CS on your female scart connector? pin 19 or pin 2ß0? |
| [10:54:29] | gardengnome: | Juski: it's rolling like mad |
| [10:54:45] | Juski: | could be 60Hz you know |
| [10:54:54] | gardengnome: | Juski: but i can recognize mythfrontend/X output. if i try hard enough ;) |
| [10:55:09] | Juski: | if the horizontal is ok.... |
| [10:55:29] | Juski: | chances are the vert sync is the wrong rate |
| [10:55:36] | gardengnome: | puthre: i tried this one, for example: Modeline "720x576pali" 13.88 720 742 808 888 576 580 583 625 -hsync -vsync interlace |
| [10:55:37] | puthre: | gardengnome: I guess 20, but you have to try, I can't remember exacltly now |
| [10:55:43] | gardengnome: | puthre: ok. |
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| [10:55:52] | puthre: | gardengnome: I use Modeline "768x576pali" 14.76 768 789 858 944 576 580 583 625 -hsync -vsync interlace |
| [10:56:10] | gardengnome: | puthre: tried that one, too, to no avail |
| [10:56:19] | gardengnome: | ah, screw it, i'll just solder CS to pin 20 now |
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| [10:56:40] | puthre: | gardengnome: 720x576 did NOT work for me... |
| [10:56:49] | gardengnome: | puthre: with what symptoms? |
| [10:57:22] | puthre: | gardengnome: sorry, cannot remember, I just marked it as no working in my xorg.conf :( |
| [10:57:35] | gardengnome: | ah, k |
| [10:57:49] | Juski: | right I have to go out now.. bbl |
| [10:57:54] | gardengnome: | cu |
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| [10:58:41] | Juski: | wait a sec! |
| [10:58:59] | Juski: | just looked at the page again... that guy has CS going onto pic20, but he's using a female socket |
| [10:59:27] | gardengnome: | yeah |
| [10:59:34] | Juski: | try pin 19... |
| [10:59:36] | gardengnome: | but some other page says i should use pin 19 |
| [10:59:42] | gardengnome: | i *am* using pin 19 :) |
| [10:59:49] | Juski: | but I kinda suspect that you'd not get any picture on pin20 |
| [11:00:21] | gardengnome: | i wouldn't know |
| [11:00:51] | Juski: | here's a better cct: http://www.electronics-lab.com/projects/pc/012/vgascart.jpg |
| [11:01:11] | Juski: | anyway I is offski |
| [11:01:13] | gardengnome: | heh, yeah. i found that one, too |
| [11:01:14] | gardengnome: | bye |
| [11:01:19] | puthre: | gardengnome: as far as I remember, pin 19 must be on the male jack |
| [11:01:38] | gardengnome: | fine. i'll hook it up to pin 20 now |
| [11:02:00] | gardengnome: | it's not that much work |
| [11:03:11] | scopeuk: | hmm |
| [11:03:19] | ** scopeuk wonders if he still has any nand gates lying round ** | |
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| [11:17:27] | hashbang: | gardengnome: ModeLine "768x576pali" 14.75 768 789 858 944 576 581 586 625 interlace -hsync -vsync |
| [11:17:40] | hashbang: | gardengnome: that's what I use with my VGA->SCART |
| [11:18:28] | gardengnome: | thx |
| [11:19:18] | hashbang: | gardengnome: and my csync goes to pin 20 of the SCART plug |
| [11:19:23] | fiveiron: | anyone ever get the audio and video out of sync? |
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| [11:19:46] | stuarta: | fiveiron: happens occasionaly |
| [11:20:03] | hashbang: | fiveiron: pause it, restart |
| [11:20:41] | gardengnome: | hashbang: plug = female connector? |
| [11:20:43] | hashbang: | gardengnome: also, make sure GND (VGA pin 10) goes to pin 17 or the SCART |
| [11:21:17] | hashbang: | gardengnome: http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/phil/videostudio/images/scart.jpg # what I call a SCART plug |
| [11:21:45] | gardengnome: | hashbang: k, thansk |
| [11:21:58] | gardengnome: | cant type much, got the solder iron hanging over my legs |
| [11:22:01] | hashbang: | gardengnome: check and double-check your connections. I made about 5 mistakes when building mine, and it only worked once I found the last. |
| [11:22:36] | hashbang: | gardengnome: also, if you've checked and double checked, and are sure everything's OK, try replacing the transistor, as you may have blown it during previous tests. |
| [11:22:38] | gardengnome: | i know what you mean, unfortunately :) |
| [11:23:25] | hashbang: | also, for selecting RGB mode, I took VGA 9 to SCART 16, via a 100 ohm resistor to limit current. |
| [11:24:01] | hashbang: | and VGA 5 to SCART 18. |
| [11:24:27] | hashbang: | hth |
| [11:25:35] | gardengnome: | thx |
| [11:28:35] | Zider_: | http://www.hardwarebook.net/connector/av/scart.html &nda sh; also a nice description of the scart connector.. |
| [11:28:39] | Zider_: | hardwarebook rocks :D |
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| [11:31:12] | gardengnome: | thanks for all the input guys, it's much appreciated :) |
| [11:31:18] | ** kayelem tries to wake up ** | |
| [11:32:13] | kayelem: | MythTV at the National Vintage Communications Fair last Sunday : http://www.technogoths.demon.co.uk/temp/MythTV-NVCF-20060507.jpg |
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| [11:35:00] | kayelem: | I was on my feet all day explaining it to people; had a *lot* of interest in it :) |
| [11:35:13] | gardengnome: | kayelem: hehe, that's awesome! don't forget to post it on mythtvtalk ;) |
| [11:36:07] | kayelem: | gardengnome, I shall indeed. I've picked up a mid-sixties Grade 1 broadcast monitor now; I can get better screenshots. |
| [11:39:31] | kayelem: | gardengnome, slight disappointment – due to lack of distribution/switching stuff; didn't get to feed it into other sets – http://www.domino405.co.uk/nvcf_may_2006.html |
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| [11:53:17] | gardengnome: | heh, still very nice :) |
| [11:55:36] | kayelem: | picture quality was impressive on a pro monitor; really crisp; I was running hard-disk recordings off DVB-T of the current series of Doctor Who all day. |
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| [11:59:43] | fiveiron: | hmmm |
| [11:59:48] | fiveiron: | i'm not getting like any channels now |
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| [12:04:35] | sixy: | hi |
| [12:04:46] | sixy: | has anyone tried using mythtv liwth lircmd? |
| [12:12:33] | Mika_i: | where i find what kind of command i have to use in JOB list if want encode movies to avi |
| [12:15:15] | dscoular: | Mika_i, mencoder or transcode or nuvexport, I guess |
| [12:15:39] | dscoular: | Mika_i, nuvexport calls either mencoder or transcode |
| [12:16:01] | Mika_i: | ok i try to google, thx |
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| [12:32:09] | dscoular: | Tobbe, have you tried changing the aspect ratio to get rid of the borders ? |
| [12:32:36] | dscoular: | Tobbe, or do you have black borders in the gui too ? |
| [12:33:26] | Tobbe: | yeah, the black borders are in the gui as well |
| [12:33:49] | Tobbe: | Im changing the overscan in the nvidia control panel |
| [12:34:28] | dscoular: | Tobbe, you can adjust overscan with mythtv too. |
| [12:34:48] | Tobbe: | but only for TV, no? |
| [12:35:07] | Tobbe: | TV, as in watching live TV |
| [12:35:19] | dscoular: | Dunno... I've never had the problem or had to use the feature... sorry |
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| [12:42:27] | GreyFoxx: | PErsonally I just configure the overscan ratio to be basically 100% |
| [12:42:39] | GreyFoxx: | and then configure myth to fit in a smaller window for the menus |
| [12:42:52] | Tobbe: | how do you do that? |
| [12:43:25] | GreyFoxx: | bylooking through the mythtv menus ;) |
| [12:43:45] | GreyFoxx: | there are setup menus for setting the width/height of the gui |
| [12:44:14] | GreyFoxx: | as well as items for setting their offset frm the side and top to fit in where you like |
| [12:44:15] | Tobbe: | I tried changing GUI width and hight, but that made my gnome menus appear on top of myth :/ |
| [12:44:27] | psofa: | hey stuarta how are you today ;) |
| [12:44:56] | stuarta: | fine. |
| [12:44:57] | GreyFoxx: | Tobbe: Set a black background, use the gui settings to perfect where you want myht to be |
| [12:45:11] | GreyFoxx: | and if it';s a dedcicated myth box,gnome is awaste of cpu and ram |
| [12:45:11] | stuarta: | watching the f1gp |
| [12:46:00] | Tobbe: | GreyFoxx: yeah, I guess I could swithc to something more light weight, like fluxbox... |
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| [12:52:11] | Zider: | fluxbox works nicely |
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| [12:54:58] | sphing: | Tobbe: or just X |
| [12:55:54] | Tobbe: | how do I run only X? |
| [12:56:29] | sphing: | just startx |
| [12:56:32] | GreyFoxx: | don't bother avoiding a window manager, you are just asking for trouble |
| [12:56:59] | sphing: | working perfectly for me, but I'd probably stick with GreyFoxx's advice |
| [12:57:06] | GreyFoxx: | a minimal wm avoids focus issues and doesn't use much cpu or ram |
| [12:57:13] | Tobbe: | ok :) |
| [12:58:33] | Tobbe: | I have a few things in "Session"->Startup Programs in Gnome, does anyone know where that is stored? |
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| [13:14:45] | Zider: | I had focus problems when not running any wm at all |
| [13:15:32] | Zider: | and twm just didn't cut it.. so I went with flux and everything is happy.. :P |
| [13:17:02] | Juski: | I have focus problems when I drink too much :-/ |
| [13:17:10] | stuarta: | hehe |
| [13:17:32] | Juski: | and it's difficult to ALT-TAB when you can't find your keyboard |
| [13:18:00] | stuarta: | or the correct tab key... |
| [13:18:10] | Juski: | just re-jointed my ceiling.. damn thing cracked last night |
| [13:18:17] | kayelem: | I've used EvilWM with mine; can't get a much more minimalist wm than that ;-) |
| [13:18:22] | stuarta: | bugger |
| [13:18:51] | Juski: | it's all a learning process :) |
| [13:19:11] | Juski: | B&Q should do a bloody loyalty card though |
| [13:19:47] | Juski: | oh stuarta – you weren't the only to have the end of dr who chopped off yesterday. I overrun by 10 mins & it still wan't enough |
| [13:19:55] | stuarta: | it's an evil place.... |
| [13:20:22] | Juski: | fucking cup final :-/ |
| [13:20:36] | ** stuarta goes and add another 5mins.... ** | |
| [13:21:07] | Juski: | tell ya what – just record from 7.30pm to 10pm... that _should_ do it |
| [13:21:17] | stuarta: | i'm rerecording it tonight... |
| [13:21:20] | Juski: | world cup is gonna bugger it all up |
| [13:21:37] | stuarta: | that's not on again today is it? |
| [13:21:45] | Juski: | nah |
| [13:21:52] | Juski: | anyway, bbc3 is sport free (yay!) |
| [13:22:17] | ** kayelem suffered the same problem – hopefully it's set to record tonight's rerun ** | |
| [13:22:18] | Juski: | picture quality is usually better on there anyway – they must have better pre-processing |
| [13:22:32] | Zider: | sport free channels <3 |
| [13:22:36] | stuarta: | or newer equipment... |
| [13:22:55] | Juski: | when I used to watch '24' on BBC – it looked crap on BBC2 but superb on bbc choice (as was) |
| [13:23:00] | kayelem: | And of course they *didn't* rescedule "confidential" last night, so couldn't switch over straight after to watch it. |
| [13:23:10] | ** kayelem mutters about bloody sport... ** | |
| [13:23:28] | ** stuarta likes sport & is watching the f1gp ** | |
| [13:23:47] | kayelem: | Time I got a distribution amp and installed my other DVB-t card :) |
| [13:23:50] | Juski: | when analogue is switched off they could _easily_ just switch the sport across to 701 or something |
| [13:23:57] | Juski: | like they will though |
| [13:24:06] | kayelem: | stuarta, oh, i like any sport with internal combustion engines involved. |
| [13:24:23] | stuarta: | just football is crap. |
| [13:24:33] | Juski: | infact – just do away with channels! just have shows! |
| [13:24:52] | kayelem: | Just never saw any appeal in watching a bunch of guys kicking a bit of leather around a muddy field ;-) |
| [13:24:56] | stuarta: | isn't that what we use myth for? |
| [13:25:12] | Juski: | stuarta: yeh – which works well most of the time, except like yesterday |
| [13:25:33] | stuarta: | kayelem: rugby is a good thing however... |
| [13:26:02] | kayelem: | but rugby's not as noisy as tractor-pulling <g> |
| [13:26:17] | stuarta: | tractor pulling is hilarious. |
| [13:26:36] | stuarta: | same goes for the norwegian offroad championship |
| [13:26:41] | kayelem: | heh |
| [13:29:20] | kayelem: | Anything with one or more excessively large V8 or V12 engines involved will keep me happy... I'm a simple girl with simple tastes... and 100-octane flowing through my veins ;-) |
| [13:30:12] | stuarta: | yeah!!!! good result.... |
| [13:31:11] | stuarta: | the aussie v8's are great, though ch5 coverage is crap |
| [13:31:28] | kayelem: | once I've got huge drives in my Myth box I'd like it to just record anything with "motor" and "racing" in automatically |
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| [13:33:56] | kleptophobiac: | good day |
| [13:34:50] | stuarta: | aloha |
| [13:37:29] | fiveiron: | hmmm |
| [13:37:49] | fiveiron: | sound its working perfectly now... but now i'm not getting a signal on most of my channels... hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| [13:38:19] | Juski: | huge drives? |
| [13:38:24] | kleptophobiac: | i'm having a new problem since i upgraded my OS |
| [13:38:27] | kleptophobiac: | for some reason |
| [13:38:36] | kleptophobiac: | now my mouse isn't disappearing when i load mplayer |
| [13:38:36] | ** Juski opens his big brown coat to reveal several seagate 750GB disks ;-) ** | |
| [13:38:40] | kleptophobiac: | from mythvideo |
| [13:39:07] | stuarta: | juski, aka klepto boy.... |
| [13:39:25] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: window manager problem methinks |
| [13:39:33] | kleptophobiac: | i think so too |
| [13:39:42] | kleptophobiac: | but i'm unsure of how to deal with it. ;) |
| [13:39:46] | kleptophobiac: | i'm using fluxbox |
| [13:39:49] | Juski: | stuarta: not really. my job's worth more than £400 (most of the time) |
| [13:40:10] | stuarta: | it's 'on loan' then.... |
| [13:40:19] | kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [13:40:20] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: is there an mplayer option to hide the mousey? |
| [13:40:29] | ** kleptophobiac hunts through the manpage ** | |
| [13:40:55] | Juski: | when I open xine I see the mouse pointer til the video starts to play |
| [13:41:05] | kleptophobiac: | the way it used to behave |
| [13:41:13] | kleptophobiac: | i would see the mouse until the video started to play in mplayer |
| [13:41:13] | Juski: | apart from when I boot & X loads, it's the only time I ever see it |
| [13:41:30] | Juski: | did mplayer get upgraded? |
| [13:41:34] | kleptophobiac: | yes |
| [13:41:45] | Juski: | that mighta did it |
| [13:41:55] | kleptophobiac: | it might've |
| [13:42:01] | Juski: | I just use xine for everything |
| [13:42:13] | kayelem: | does mplayer do DVD menus yet? |
| [13:42:18] | Juski: | nope |
| [13:42:28] | kayelem: | I switched to xine because of that |
| [13:42:32] | Juski: | there's been talk of it |
| [13:42:42] | kleptophobiac: | xine seems sortof bloated for my application |
| [13:42:49] | kleptophobiac: | i like mplayer's super simplicity |
| [13:42:51] | Juski: | eh? |
| [13:42:59] | Juski: | my minimyth image is like 64MB |
| [13:43:01] | kleptophobiac: | and i don't care about dvd menus anyway |
| [13:43:08] | kleptophobiac: | i don't mean large |
| [13:43:14] | kleptophobiac: | i mean... overly complicated with GUI and menus |
| [13:43:18] | Juski: | you _should_ care about dvd menus |
| [13:43:27] | kleptophobiac: | why should I care about them? |
| [13:43:38] | kleptophobiac: | i rip my dvd's to a fileserver |
| [13:43:40] | kleptophobiac: | movie only |
| [13:43:46] | Juski: | because sometimes the 'primary' track on a DVD is the wrong one |
| [13:43:51] | kayelem: | I like my myth box to work like a "real" DVD player when I'm playing them |
| [13:43:57] | kleptophobiac: | that's fair |
| [13:44:03] | kleptophobiac: | but it's not one of my concerns |
| [13:44:09] | kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [13:44:22] | kayelem: | but I don't rip my DVDs... |
| [13:44:36] | kleptophobiac: | i might however |
| [13:44:39] | Juski: | a biggie these days is that they aren't putting the right audio tracks into the proper streams – then letting their menus choose the right one |
| [13:44:40] | kleptophobiac: | switch to xine for dvd playback |
| [13:44:44] | kleptophobiac: | and leave mplayer for video |
| [13:45:04] | kleptophobiac: | considering i play back a dvd maybe three times a year |
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| [13:47:26] | Juski: | you can have xine without all its menus you know |
| [13:47:42] | kleptophobiac: | really? i haven't looked into it |
| [13:47:43] | Juski: | the big bloated one is xine-ui IMHO |
| [13:48:01] | kleptophobiac: | well |
| [13:48:05] | kleptophobiac: | i guess i'll explore xine |
| [13:48:12] | kleptophobiac: | but i think i've fixed my mouse |
| [13:48:14] | kleptophobiac: | problem |
| [13:48:19] | kleptophobiac: | time to test |
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| [13:50:11] | kleptophobiac: | dammit |
| [13:58:25] | sixy: | has anyone tried using mythtv with lircmd? |
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| [13:59:51] | fiveiron: | hrrrmrm.... why the heck am i not getting any channels... :-( |
| [14:03:10] | psofa: | sixy, why whats the problem? |
| [14:05:49] | sixy: | having LOTS of issues with multiple remotes |
| [14:06:31] | sixy: | basically i have 4 identical remotes that each need to be assigned to a separate user |
| [14:07:15] | sixy: | but myth connects to lirc_client, which talks to a socket named /dev/lircd and there seems to be no way of altering this on a per-user basis |
| [14:07:34] | sixy: | however using x i can use a different lircmd instance for each user |
| [14:08:50] | psofa: | sixy, maybe i dont know what im talking about but myth connecting to /dev/lircd is part of the native lirc support which has nothing to do with lircmd |
| [14:09:37] | sixy: | yes i know. lircmd is the mouse daemon, which can be used as an alternative to the native lircd integration – in theory anyway |
| [14:10:27] | sixy: | i have looked at using lirc as a keyboard for each user, but im not sure how to do this and there is no docs on the subject on the internet |
| [14:10:37] | Juski: | sixy: all the remote receivers aren't in the same room are they? |
| [14:12:16] | sixy: | they are, but separated by a structure that looks not unlike an eggbox |
| [14:14:06] | sixy: | there are small blasters that connect to them – they do not need to be visable to the user (that portion of the hardware gets complex, with lots of targetgeted ir channeling, but it all works and has little or nothing to do with the software side of things) |
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| [14:18:06] | psofa: | sixy, i dont get it.you mean you have multiple remotes for different frontends? |
| [14:18:17] | sixy: | yeah. |
| [14:18:34] | kleptophobiac: | god dammit, i can't make this mouse go away |
| [14:18:47] | psofa: | and each frontend is launched by a different user? |
| [14:19:21] | sixy: | yes – although in theory they could all share a user it makes more sense this way |
| [14:19:42] | sixy: | each user has their own screen with their own instance of X |
| [14:20:02] | psofa: | in .mythtv directory of each users home theres a lircrc file |
| [14:20:44] | sixy: | yes, but that only interprets commands. it does not specifiy which cocket to connect to |
| [14:21:15] | sixy: | *socket |
| [14:23:02] | psofa: | so what you are saying is that you have also multiple receivers |
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| [14:23:48] | sixy: | yes. |
| [14:24:41] | sixy: | but i cannot find a way to specify a particular socket in the lircrcd (new version of lirc_client, different from lircrc) |
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| [14:26:25] | psofa: | hmm no idea :/ |
| [14:27:06] | sixy: | its getting very complex, hence the mouse daemon, but ive not used that before and i wondered if anyone had |
| [14:27:29] | kleptophobiac: | does xine have to be compiled with lirc support? |
| [14:27:35] | kleptophobiac: | or does it include it natively? |
| [14:28:48] | psofa: | kleptophobiac, i suppose that depends on you distribution |
| [14:29:21] | kleptophobiac: | i'm looking at the xine-lib configuration script |
| [14:29:26] | kleptophobiac: | and i see no reference to lirc |
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| [14:30:16] | psofa: | kleptophobiac, but xine-ui package has lirc on-off |
| [14:30:29] | psofa: | so probably xine-lib doesnt deal with lirc at all |
| [14:30:30] | kleptophobiac: | but i thought i needn't use xine-ui...? |
| [14:30:40] | kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [14:31:07] | psofa: | iirc you need |
| [14:31:29] | kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [14:31:29] | kleptophobiac: | ok |
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| [14:43:21] | kleptophobiac: | i'm still having mplayer mouse issues |
| [14:43:27] | kleptophobiac: | i switched from fluxbox to enlightenment |
| [14:43:40] | kleptophobiac: | i start the WM with "enlightenment &" |
| [14:43:44] | kleptophobiac: | then start mythfrontend |
| [14:43:48] | kleptophobiac: | there's no mouse in mythfe |
| [14:44:00] | kleptophobiac: | mplayer is set to run with -fs -zoom -vo xv |
| [14:44:16] | kleptophobiac: | so it should be fullscreen with xv hardware support |
| [14:44:23] | kleptophobiac: | but i still get the damned mouse onscreen |
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| [14:45:52] | psofa: | mythfrontend isnt supposed to have a mouse shown |
| [14:46:00] | psofa: | theres an option for it |
| [14:46:01] | psofa: | in the setup menus |
| [14:46:11] | psofa: | its called hide mouse cursor or sth |
| [14:46:19] | dasOp: | mplayer isnt mythfrontend |
| [14:46:25] | Coume: | hi all |
| [14:46:31] | psofa: | <kleptophobiac> there's no mouse in mythfe |
| [14:46:32] | dasOp: | as he said, no mouse in mythfe |
| [14:46:53] | kleptophobiac: | yeah |
| [14:46:54] | dasOp: | as an explanation for [09:44]<kleptophobiac> but i still get the damned mouse onscreen |
| [14:47:05] | psofa: | lol |
| [14:47:06] | psofa: | srry |
| [14:47:08] | kleptophobiac: | :p |
| [14:47:34] | psofa: | i think if you just leave it it disappears after 2–3 seconds |
| [14:47:44] | kleptophobiac: | negative |
| [14:47:51] | kleptophobiac: | sits there until mplayer exits |
| [14:48:29] | psofa: | :/ |
| [14:50:01] | Zider: | kleptophobiac: why change from flux to e? |
| [14:50:11] | kleptophobiac: | wanted to try it |
| [14:50:18] | kleptophobiac: | see if it would fix my mouse issue |
| [14:50:21] | kleptophobiac: | plus e has nicer menus |
| [14:50:22] | Zider: | ah |
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| [14:50:29] | Zider: | :P |
| [14:50:31] | kleptophobiac: | and i occassionally hijack the pvr and use it as a web browser |
| [14:51:03] | Zider: | maybe X needs to be set to blank the mouse? |
| [14:51:08] | Zider: | or the pointer rather |
| [14:51:26] | kleptophobiac: | good idea... any thoughts on how to do that? |
| [14:51:55] | Zider: | heh, nope.. never had that problem.. |
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| [14:53:37] | kleptophobiac: | this is really frustrating... i didn't have this problem before |
| [14:54:02] | Zider: | what have you changed? |
| [14:54:11] | psofa: | im almost sure that mplayer hides the cursor as ive used it in the past |
| [14:54:13] | kleptophobiac: | i nuked the system and started over |
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| [14:54:19] | kleptophobiac: | so everything is new |
| [14:54:26] | psofa: | same wm? |
| [14:54:32] | psofa: | id try openbox |
| [14:54:34] | kleptophobiac: | yeah |
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| [14:56:37] | Zider: | psofa: if it doesn't work in flux it probably won't work in openbox |
| [14:57:39] | kleptophobiac: | aren't they basically the same base? |
| [14:57:49] | Zider: | yes, so there should be no difference |
| [14:59:24] | salog: | hi, because of my graphic card, i cant get X to start with 1280x768 as i would need for my tv. with movies i get along with --monitoraspect-ratio set to the right resolution. but all pictures i view are stretched. is there a way to fix this? |
| [15:00:03] | Zider: | I haven't seen any gfx card that can do "widescreen resolutions" on the tv-out |
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| [15:00:34] | salog: | actually it is the vga out |
| [15:01:15] | salog: | but is there smthg similiar to mplayers --monitoraspectratio? |
| [15:01:29] | kleptophobiac: | ghack, i load up xine and the mouse disappears properly |
| [15:01:31] | kleptophobiac: | wtf is that |
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| [15:02:36] | Zider: | salog: you mean -monitoraspect ? |
| [15:03:00] | salog: | yes |
| [15:04:26] | Zider: | that's the only way I know of to get it to fill the screen.. |
| [15:05:26] | salog: | i mean, it works fine for watching movies, but when using mythgallery, the pics are not shown properly |
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| [15:06:41] | Zider: | salog: if you set the -monitoraspect thingie in the file type settings it should only affect the movies |
| [15:07:12] | speedsix: | Hi all |
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| [15:08:19] | salog: | Zider, yes and thats fine. but using mythgallery is unsatisfing as i can see pictures/photos only stretched. is there a similiar way (eg option) to tell mythgallery to the monitoraspect? |
| [15:08:49] | Zider: | salog: oh you mean force the mythgallery to keep the right aspect? |
| [15:08:59] | salog: | Zider, exactly |
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| [15:09:34] | Zider: | have no idea then.. try telling it to use 4:3 aspect? |
| [15:10:11] | salog: | how/where? i cant find a mythgallery conf file |
| [15:10:25] | Zider: | well, mythgallery uses mplayer, right? |
| [15:11:35] | salog: | does it? only for movies i thought. i dont know. but in the mythgallery setup i pass exactly the same arguments to _mplayer_ |
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| [15:12:18] | sPiN-: | hey guys.... |
| [15:12:36] | Zider: | so pass other arguments then, like -monitoraspect 4:3 |
| [15:12:44] | Zider: | instead of -monitoraspect 16:9 |
| [15:12:47] | sPiN-: | anyone know where to put the ivtv firmware on suse linux? i did this once before, but its been months and i cant remember where i put them |
| [15:13:01] | sPiN-: | the docs are not applicable to me |
| [15:13:30] | salog: | worth a shot, thx. but i am not sure mythgallery uses mplayer for pics. |
| [15:13:38] | Zider: | salog: I believe it does |
| [15:13:47] | Zider: | salog: so you can set it in the global config file |
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| [15:14:07] | Zider: | salog: and use -monitoraspect 16:9 for the movie file types |
| [15:14:52] | GreyFoxx: | mythgallery doesn't use an external app just for pictures |
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| [15:23:16] | salog: | i also strongly doubt that mplayer is used. at least i have never been able to view a single pic with mplyer |
| [15:23:41] | salog: | GreyFoxx, any idea how to teach mythgallery how to display the pics then? |
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| [15:24:42] | GreyFoxx: | I know for a fact that an external app is not used just for viewing pics :) |
| [15:24:47] | defaultro: | morning all |
| [15:24:50] | defaultro: | hi GreyFoxx |
| [15:25:30] | GreyFoxx: | salog: Not off hand no. |
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| [15:35:14] | SibrPhrek: | hi – i just installed knoppixmyth on my box – but when i get the MYthTV screen after configuration everything is HUGE.....when i have to choose what language I want..it takes up most of the TV screen...then the system locks up (or i believe it does b/c nothing is reponsive) – ideas? |
| [15:36:03] | SibrPhrek: | woudl i be better off runing a normal linux distro then installing myth-tv ontop of it? |
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| [15:37:11] | speedsix: | I use Knoppmyth R5B7 without any probs |
| [15:37:41] | SibrPhrek: | speedsix: that's great...but that doesn't really help me now does it? |
| [15:37:41] | speedsix: | not sure why yours is locking up, can you alt-tab to something else? |
| [15:37:46] | SibrPhrek: | nope |
| [15:39:14] | speedsix: | can you ctrl-alt-F1? |
| [15:39:18] | SibrPhrek: | nope |
| [15:39:21] | SibrPhrek: | tried that too |
| [15:39:52] | speedsix: | don't spose you can try to ssh into the box when it's like that? |
| [15:40:03] | SibrPhrek: | hrm |
| [15:40:04] | SibrPhrek: | didn't try |
| [15:40:07] | SibrPhrek: | lemme reboot it and see |
| [15:40:36] | Juski: | fyi folks the issue about mythgallery not using the displaysize variable has been discussed IIRC, and nothing ever came of it IIRC |
| [15:41:31] | Juski: | I'm another user of an amorphic video mode & find mythgallery's aspect ratio ignorance annoying |
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| [15:42:10] | Juski: | I looked at the code – seems it'd be easy to fix, but where my knowledge falls down is putting a bit into the UI to set it |
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| [15:43:20] | Juski: | hi GreyFoxx btw :) you still happy with the msntv box? |
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| [15:44:12] | speedsix: | Anyone know what version of myth you need for Mytharchive to work? I have latest svn 0.19-fixes but it doesn't show up |
| [15:44:32] | SibrPhrek: | speedsix: when you do the knoopmyth modules setup |
| [15:44:35] | SibrPhrek: | do you go with i686 |
| [15:44:41] | SibrPhrek: | or skip for the i586 |
| [15:44:42] | Juski: | speedsix: did you read the ML posts about it? you need to be using SVN head |
| [15:44:50] | speedsix: | SibrPhrek, yeah i686 |
| [15:44:56] | SibrPhrek: | k |
| [15:45:14] | SibrPhrek: | everytime it freezes i have to manually kill it so it never remembers the settings |
| [15:45:18] | SibrPhrek: | i'm gonna try it like 2 more times |
| [15:45:20] | speedsix: | Juski, no I didn't see that, is that the trunk svn? |
| [15:45:21] | SibrPhrek: | then i'm going with MCE :( |
| [15:45:32] | Juski: | speedsix: yep |
| [15:45:37] | Juski: | SibrPhrek: chicken :-) |
| [15:45:48] | SibrPhrek: | Juski: yup! |
| [15:45:53] | SibrPhrek: | i've never been good with *nix |
| [15:46:04] | speedsix: | Aren't they going to be a bit ropey to use as my main myth setup? |
| [15:46:17] | Juski: | I've seen posts on forums about people who've 'tried' mythtv – some people give it as much as half an hour! :-/ |
| [15:46:34] | Juski: | speedsix: so be patient & wait for 0.20 ;-) |
| [15:46:54] | SibrPhrek: | Juski: i will try a bit more :) |
| [15:46:57] | ** speedsix patient? ** | |
| [15:47:02] | speedsix: | ;) |
| [15:47:15] | SibrPhrek: | being a mac kid – i should be better at this :( |
| [15:47:25] | Juski: | SibrPhrek: a lot of people mistake knoppmyth for some kind of magic bullet – which is most definitely isn't |
| [15:47:36] | nero__: | SibrPhrek, Mac kid here too.. take some time.. Mythtv is WELL worth the effort.. |
| [15:47:44] | SibrPhrek: | Juski: i got that :) – would u suggest another distro with mythtv on top |
| [15:47:51] | SibrPhrek: | nero__: i work for an apple authorized service provider |
| [15:47:54] | speedsix: | SibrPhrek, Myth has taken me weeks to get going good |
| [15:47:56] | nero__: | took me about a week of fooling around to get it useful the first time around (this was way back with v 0.15 or something like that).. |
| [15:48:07] | SibrPhrek: | i would love to fool around with it |
| [15:48:13] | Juski: | SibrPhrek: I built a spare box up & got mythtv running on ubuntu in about 2 hours from a flat HDD following a howto |
| [15:48:14] | SibrPhrek: | pending the font's show right so i can see WTF i'm doing |
| [15:48:25] | SibrPhrek: | ah fuck |
| [15:48:26] | SibrPhrek: | it did it again |
| [15:48:29] | SibrPhrek: | hang on i'll show you guys |
| [15:48:44] | speedsix: | Juski do you run any Ubuntu boxes now? |
| [15:49:05] | Juski: | speedsix: not right now – I need to buy a new VGA card cos the one it has now overheats & kills the machine |
| [15:49:24] | speedsix: | The Xine from the Breezy repos seems to completely ignore any LIRC commands :/ |
| [15:49:57] | Juski: | speedsix: ahh – see I've always used plain old xine on my gentoo box |
| [15:50:06] | Juski: | AFAIK it's alright with lirc |
| [15:50:13] | SibrPhrek: | speedsix: http://www.virtuacomputers.com/myth.jpg |
| [15:50:16] | SibrPhrek: | that's what's happening |
| [15:50:24] | SibrPhrek: | sorry for the big pic – just wanted to get it up |
| [15:50:31] | Juski: | SibrPhrek: fucking hell! |
| [15:50:35] | SibrPhrek: | i know! |
| [15:50:40] | Juski: | mythtv for the hard of seeing! |
| [15:50:41] | speedsix: | Holy shit |
| [15:50:45] | SibrPhrek: | WTF!!! |
| [15:50:48] | nero__: | SibrPhrek, thats called "Accessability" ;) |
| [15:50:49] | Juski: | roffles |
| [15:50:53] | SibrPhrek: | so now what |
| [15:50:55] | SibrPhrek: | :( |
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| [15:51:15] | SibrPhrek: | when i hit enter on English |
| [15:51:16] | Juski: | SibrPhrek: just winging it here – do you have a mouse attached to the PC? |
| [15:51:17] | SibrPhrek: | i see kinda |
| [15:51:19] | nero__: | SibrPhrek, are all of your fonts that big?? (in X, when not running myth?) |
| [15:51:21] | SibrPhrek: | back is runni ? |
| [15:51:38] | SibrPhrek: | nero__: dunno – just hooked up this box to this tv and went with a knoppix install |
| [15:51:41] | SibrPhrek: | haven't done anything else |
| [15:51:56] | ** nero__ isn't took familiar with knopmyth.. :( ** | |
| [15:52:05] | SibrPhrek: | keyboard seems unresponsive cuz the caplocks key won't turn on/off |
| [15:52:12] | Juski: | you might've ended up in a video mode too big for the monitor... so what you're getting is a 'window' onto the desktop |
| [15:52:20] | Juski: | i.e. desktop is bigger than the display size |
| [15:52:23] | SibrPhrek: | Juski: so what do i do? |
| [15:52:38] | nero__: | Juski, strange thing about that is the scoll bars.. |
| [15:52:48] | nero__: | er.. nm.. |
| [15:52:53] | nero__: | I see the scroll bar is going off the screen.. |
| [15:53:08] | nero__: | SibrPhrek, do you have ssh access to that box? |
| [15:53:31] | SibrPhrek: | don't kow the ip |
| [15:53:35] | SibrPhrek: | lemme see if i can sniff it out |
| [15:54:14] | Juski: | SibrPhrek: does knoppmyth let you choose the resolution when you set it up? |
| [15:54:31] | SibrPhrek: | nero__: machine won't ping – so it's definatly locked up |
| [15:54:32] | nero__: | if you can SSH in, post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on the web somewhere.. |
| [15:54:40] | nero__: | ahhh.. thats no good.. :( |
| [15:54:45] | SibrPhrek: | Juski: i just did the normal setup from the CD |
| [15:54:49] | SibrPhrek: | maybe i need to do a fresh install |
| [15:55:23] | nero__: | and if it is locking up the whole machine, thats not good.. its not uncommon for X11 to lock up (wont accept keyboard input, etc..) but you can always ssh in.. |
| [15:55:24] | SibrPhrek: | nero__: side ? – what kinda mac you got |
| [15:55:48] | nero__: | SibrPhrek, an inactive B&W G4 (oldschool), and a 1ghz G4 TiBook |
| [15:55:55] | SibrPhrek: | Juski: if i do a freshinstall |
| [15:56:03] | SibrPhrek: | should i just do a knoppmyth standard install |
| [15:56:05] | nero__: | going to bite the bullet and get a MacBook Pro when the 2nd gen comes out.. :) |
| [15:56:23] | SibrPhrek: | nero__: nice |
| [15:56:32] | SibrPhrek: | i currently got a dual 1ghz QuickSilver |
| [15:56:40] | SibrPhrek: | going to a Dual 2.5 G5 in a few days when i get my new drives |
| [15:56:57] | nero__: | SibrPhrek, also know, some distros just dont like certain hardware.. I tried Knopp on this machine, but couldn't get it to work well.. switched over to FC4, and followed the Jarod Wilson guide, and it went great.. |
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| [15:57:33] | nero__: | not to say you didn't just get a bum/messed up install.. but if after the 2nd or 3rd try, you keep locking up, you might want to take another approach. |
| [15:59:06] | SibrPhrek: | i'm gonna try a different install |
| [15:59:08] | SibrPhrek: | see what happens |
| [15:59:46] | nero__: | there is also a distro based on FC4 called Mythdora or something like that.. haven't tried it, but it may work.. :shrug: |
| [16:00:11] | SibrPhrek: | ok |
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| [16:00:54] | nero__: | dont worry- for me this was the hard part.. finding a distro that seemed to like my machine.. |
| [16:01:15] | nero__: | oh.. and finding out that I had a bad video card in my mythbox that was causing intermittent lockups for a year and a half.. |
| [16:02:07] | speedsix: | Quick question, when you install something from source, is it ok just to install on top of previous versions? |
| [16:02:39] | Juski: | speedsix: if it's installed from a package manager, it's best to uninstall it before installing from source |
| [16:02:54] | ** nero__ agrees with Juski who typed faster than he did.. ** | |
| [16:02:57] | speedsix: | Juski, what about going from source -> source? |
| [16:03:19] | nero__: | speedsix, I would recommend a make uninstall.. |
| [16:03:29] | speedsix: | ok thanks |
| [16:04:16] | nero__: | that way you dont have any old libs floating around that can cause various levels of annoyance.. |
| [16:04:20] | speedsix: | what if you don't have the current source :/ |
| [16:05:04] | nero__: | :/ dunno.. Most of the time I have had no problems just installing over the old.. but there are occasions where there is an old library numbering, etc.. |
| [16:05:35] | nero__: | so going from Mythtv 0.18 to Mythtv 0.19, I try to do a make uninstall, but updating from svn yesterday to svn today, I typically just install over.. |
| [16:05:56] | nero__: | bbiab.. |
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| [16:13:03] | speedsix: | So where would I get themes that aren't part of the official package if such a thing exists? |
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| [16:23:57] | gardengnome: | speedsix: for example, you can get projectgreyhem at mythtvtalk.com |
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| [16:25:18] | speedsix: | gardengnome, thanks |
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| [16:28:40] | SibrPhrek: | yo speedsix |
| [16:28:42] | SibrPhrek: | i got a new error |
| [16:28:59] | SibrPhrek: | Error: Formatting of failed. Some message sfrom mkfs.ext3 etc etc |
| [16:29:27] | speedsix: | Is this with the auto install? |
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| [16:31:28] | Goshen: | I just installed a new box, and I can't get the pvr-500 card working properly, here is a copy of my ivtv section of dmesg http://pastebin.ca/55825 |
| [16:31:36] | Goshen: | I wounder if it didn't comile properly |
| [16:32:10] | Goshen: | I get this message when using tvtime- videoinput: Card failed to allocate capture buffers: Invalid argument |
| [16:33:09] | gardengnome: | are you sure that tvtime supports the pvr 500/ivtv? try mplayer. |
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| [16:33:29] | Goshen: | yes |
| [16:33:54] | Juski: | speedsix: if you don't have a copy of the current source, download it, then do a make distclean |
| [16:33:54] | kleptophobiac: | anybody using xine w/ mythvideo? |
| [16:34:18] | Juski: | xine -pfhq (etc) |
| [16:34:19] | Goshen: | and I am able to start live tv, but if I change the station, I get this error message and it goes to a black screen |
| [16:34:22] | Goshen: | 2006-05–14 10:40:21.775 RingBuf(/home/matthew/test/1037_20060514104020.mpg): Taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [16:34:22] | Goshen: | 2006-05–14 10:40:22.141 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [16:34:34] | kleptophobiac: | Juski – do you use surround? |
| [16:34:39] | Juski: | hell yes |
| [16:34:47] | kleptophobiac: | how do you have that configured? |
| [16:34:48] | speedsix: | Juski, what does make distclean do? |
| [16:35:06] | Juski: | speedsix: I only know you should do it |
| [16:35:11] | gardengnome: | speedsix: it cleans even the more problematic parts, around the edges and so on |
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| [16:35:16] | gardengnome: | err, corners |
| [16:35:16] | speedsix: | I see |
| [16:35:20] | gardengnome: | ;) |
| [16:35:22] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: not sure – minimyth does all that for me |
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| [16:35:36] | kleptophobiac: | hmm |
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| [16:35:40] | kleptophobiac: | i seem to have surround working |
| [16:35:43] | kleptophobiac: | but mute doesn't function |
| [16:35:56] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: depends if you're using digital audio outputs or not |
| [16:36:03] | kleptophobiac: | nope, analog |
| [16:36:10] | Juski: | ugh |
| [16:36:25] | Juski: | dunno then.. time to dig the manual out |
| [16:37:03] | Juski: | xine can do a lot of fancy channel mapping stuff, I know that much |
| [16:37:09] | kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [16:37:19] | kleptophobiac: | i'm just looking for simple analog out using the master mixer |
| [16:37:36] | kleptophobiac: | this was my mplayer command |
| [16:37:37] | kleptophobiac: | mplayer -ao alsa -mixer default -monitoraspect 16:9 -mixer-channel Master -channels 6 -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s |
| [16:37:48] | Juski: | try xine --help |
| [16:38:33] | kleptophobiac: | -A alsa |
| [16:38:36] | kleptophobiac: | that could be good |
| [16:39:05] | Juski: | I strongly recommend you get digital audio though.. it's very nice :-P |
| [16:39:21] | Juski: | not much use if you're using software encoding though |
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| [16:39:27] | Juski: | but that sucks anyway IMHO |
| [16:39:54] | kleptophobiac: | i have simple analog speakers and no digital receiver |
| [16:40:06] | kleptophobiac: | this is a fairly low cost setup |
| [16:40:11] | Juski: | well.. when you get around to upgrading ;-) |
| [16:40:15] | kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [16:40:17] | kleptophobiac: | i won't be |
| [16:40:21] | kleptophobiac: | i'm setting this up for parents |
| [16:40:25] | kleptophobiac: | set and forget |
| [16:40:32] | kleptophobiac: | i'm moving out in three months |
| [16:40:36] | Juski: | mine is set & forget too |
| [16:40:58] | Juski: | spent an afternoon tuning my surround setup, deafening the neighbours with my subwoofer |
| [16:41:04] | kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [16:41:46] | Juski: | my next amp will need to have a parametric EQ.. my livingroom has a big peak at around 30Hz |
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| [16:42:19] | kleptophobiac: | shouldn't eq be software-able? |
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| [16:42:28] | Juski: | not using Ac3 passthru |
| [16:42:32] | kleptophobiac: | oh |
| [16:42:36] | kleptophobiac: | yeah |
| [16:42:59] | Juski: | don't think Jack can do 5.1 processing |
| [16:43:10] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [16:43:37] | Juski: | and I'm not sure how my ickle epia would cope with that |
| [16:43:41] | kayelem: | hehe, at the other end of the scale here in "LDTV World", now I have a mid-sixties pro 405-line monitor, I've dug out a fifties valve mono hifi amp to go with it; I'll probably pick up a centre speaker for it :) |
| [16:44:12] | kayelem: | 5.1... isn't 1.0 enough? <g> |
| [16:44:18] | Juski: | lol |
| [16:44:26] | gardengnome: | for some music, even 0.1 is enough |
| [16:44:34] | kayelem: | hehe |
| [16:44:45] | Juski: | I watched a tech show last night – Frauhoffer have been playing with 192 channel audio. I kid you not |
| [16:45:01] | kleptophobiac: | i think anything over 5.1 is a waste |
| [16:45:33] | gardengnome: | wtf is Frau Hoffer? do you mean the "Fraunhofer Institut"? ;) |
| [16:45:41] | Juski: | yeh |
| [16:45:44] | Juski: | sorry gardengnome |
| [16:45:49] | gardengnome: | hehe ;) |
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| [16:46:00] | Zider: | Herr und Frau Hoffer |
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| [16:46:45] | Juski: | it was featured on the BBC show 'Click' yesterday anyhow |
| [16:47:05] | kayelem: | Hmm... anyone got any good recommendations for centres; I was looking at one of these as they're cheap! http://tinyurl.com/lr9ej |
| [16:47:53] | Juski: | here's mine: http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?c . . . ORD-905C-MAP |
| [16:48:03] | kleptophobiac: | dammit, i can't figure out why it won't mute |
| [16:48:29] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: do you have a key mapped to it? |
| [16:48:56] | kleptophobiac: | yes |
| [16:48:58] | kayelem: | Juski, niiice :) Though it'd look a touch odd on top of an old broadcast monitor ;-) |
| [16:49:00] | kleptophobiac: | it shows "muted" and "unmuted" |
| [16:49:10] | kleptophobiac: | but there's no difference in volume |
| [16:51:24] | kleptophobiac: | see, when i used mplayer |
| [16:51:32] | kleptophobiac: | i could see it "MUTE" in alsamixer |
| [16:51:33] | kleptophobiac: | with xine |
| [16:51:35] | kleptophobiac: | i don't see that |
| [16:53:06] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: sounds like xine isn't controlling alsamixer.. just using alsa for output |
| [16:53:24] | kleptophobiac: | volume up and down work though |
| [16:53:26] | ** Juski only needs one control for volume... up ;-) ** | |
| [16:53:26] | kleptophobiac: | not mute |
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| [16:58:31] | sPiN-: | http://pastebin.ca/55833 can anyone tell me how i can get around this error |
| [16:58:54] | sPiN-: | videomanager.h:33: error: extra qualification ‘VideoManager::’ on member ‘processEvents’ |
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| [16:59:06] | sPiN-: | not sure what an extra qualification is |
| [17:03:07] | SibrPhrek: | damn it |
| [17:03:08] | SibrPhrek: | fresh install |
| [17:03:12] | SibrPhrek: | and froze on boot |
| [17:03:16] | SibrPhrek: | knoppmyth no good |
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| [17:26:57] | SibrPhrek: | hrm |
| [17:27:03] | SibrPhrek: | MCE froze up too |
| [17:27:06] | SibrPhrek: | maybe we have a culprit |
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| [17:28:21] | hello_man: | hi guys.. |
| [17:28:39] | hello_man: | does anybody knows if mythtv suport standby resume etc |
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| [17:29:48] | gardengnome: | why, yes. you should be more worried about your hardwa...idiot |
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| [17:30:08] | ikonia: | Hi Dr Nick |
| [17:30:17] | ikonia: | (I love that gag) |
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| [17:30:33] | ikonia: | SibrPhrek your name sounds l33t |
| [17:30:46] | SibrPhrek: | ikonia: it is |
| [17:33:01] | stuarta: | Juski: I see your crispy duck & raise you a beef rendang |
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| [17:33:19] | ikonia: | I've just had jack daniels baby back ribs |
| [17:33:25] | ikonia: | and its given my bad stomache ache |
| [17:33:43] | stuarta: | well you aren't supposed to eat 50 of them... |
| [17:34:05] | ikonia: | I think there was a cooking problem |
| [17:34:11] | ikonia: | my girlfriend had them too and she's suffering too |
| [17:34:32] | stuarta: | ahh. back to cooking 101 for you my boy.... |
| [17:34:48] | ikonia: | or the chef who cooked them for us |
| [17:35:24] | kleptophobiac: | Juski – when you press your mute button in xine, does it owkr? |
| [17:35:26] | kleptophobiac: | *work? |
| [17:35:34] | ikonia: | does on mine |
| [17:35:38] | kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [17:35:59] | stuarta: | dodgy pub food... hmm. |
| [17:36:02] | SibrPhrek: | ikonia: how do you have myth tv installed |
| [17:36:07] | SibrPhrek: | knoppix-myth |
| [17:36:09] | SibrPhrek: | or another distro |
| [17:36:11] | ikonia: | no |
| [17:36:25] | ikonia: | I've got it running on a random distro and on an fc5 setup |
| [17:36:31] | SibrPhrek: | hrm |
| [17:36:43] | ikonia: | I've been working through an fc5 setup to send to the guy who maints the fc4 howto |
| [17:36:47] | ikonia: | as he's been short of time |
| [17:37:05] | SibrPhrek: | hrm |
| [17:37:06] | ikonia: | been an interesting learning (and still is) time foer me |
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| [17:37:08] | ikonia: | for |
| [17:37:11] | SibrPhrek: | cuz knoppix-myth just doens't work fo rme |
| [17:37:20] | ikonia: | I've not used knoppix-myth |
| [17:37:24] | gardengnome: | try knoppmyth instead |
| [17:37:30] | ikonia: | I don't like the distros that are optimised for myth |
| [17:37:33] | SibrPhrek: | gardengnome: that's what i'm talking about |
| [17:37:38] | gardengnome: | :P |
| [17:37:39] | ikonia: | (thats only a personal choice though) |
| [17:37:56] | Servo888: | What |
| [17:37:59] | Servo888: | grr |
| [17:38:07] | Servo888: | I ment to say what's mythcommflag? |
| [17:38:53] | Servo888: | Ohh commerical flagging... |
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| [17:39:21] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris | |
| [17:39:44] | Servo888: | Man .19 has really changed... I've been using .18 with out issues... Upgraded to .19 and some things just confuse me. Like commerical flagging is no enabled by default. |
| [17:39:56] | ikonia: | .19 is a big change |
| [17:40:01] | ikonia: | .19.x is the one I'm waiting for |
| [17:41:08] | kleptophobiac: | what's a good way to set xv controls when xine starts? |
| [17:42:31] | Servo888: | It would be nice though if mythtv was smart enough to record to multiple directories / mount points. So just plug in another drive and mythtv will take care of it. There are some professional DVR's out there where you just daisy chain drives, and the drive just becomes apart of the total storage with no use interaction. |
| [17:42:52] | kleptophobiac: | well |
| [17:42:53] | ikonia: | lvs |
| [17:42:56] | kleptophobiac: | the next best thing is lvm |
| [17:42:57] | ikonia: | thats nothing to do with MythLogBot |
| [17:43:02] | ikonia: | with Myth |
| [17:43:07] | ikonia: | thats the OS handling disks |
| [17:43:13] | ikonia: | lvm I mean |
| [17:43:14] | ikonia: | not lvs |
| [17:43:57] | gardengnome: | multiple directories, i'd prefer that over LVM. doesn't hurt that much when a disk goes bad |
| [17:44:05] | Servo888: | Yah but for lvm if you want to attach another drive you need to move your data someplace so you can partition with lvm |
| [17:44:40] | xris: | Servo888: that feature is coming |
| [17:44:50] | Servo888: | xris, whoot =-). |
| [17:45:09] | xris: | you can actually trick it to do that now, but only with stuff you've already recorded. |
| [17:45:16] | gardengnome: | xris: you sure? i only remember some discussion about it a long time ago ;) |
| [17:45:18] | xris: | (can move recordings) |
| [17:45:29] | xris: | gardengnome: one of the devs was talking about it recently... |
| [17:45:40] | gardengnome: | xris: nice |
| [17:47:14] | haj: | 2 |
| [17:47:21] | sPiN-: | 2006-05–14 13:47:14.640 Unable to connect to database! |
| [17:47:32] | ikonia: | is the database running |
| [17:47:39] | ikonia: | are the permissions for your database user correct |
| [17:47:55] | sPiN-: | i just did mysql -u mythtv -p and used mythtv as the password, and it let me right in |
| [17:48:09] | sPiN-: | and i imported the mythconverg db and it is there |
| [17:48:13] | ikonia: | ok so check the data in your .mythtv dir |
| [17:48:30] | Servo888: | Kind of got lazy having the server behind a firewall. |
| [17:48:45] | Wonko: | Hello! I'm running Debian Etch and during the installation linux-image-2.6–486 was installed. Should i install linux-image-k7 or linux-image-2.6-k7 instead? Or anyone else? |
| [17:49:05] | ikonia: | errrr try #debian |
| [17:49:07] | sPiN-: | ikonia: everything in there is commented out |
| [17:49:09] | ikonia: | for support on debian |
| [17:49:18] | ikonia: | sPiN- sounds like that could be the problem |
| [17:49:24] | sPiN-: | ls |
| [17:49:55] | sPiN-: | ive never had to mess with this file or dir before... its just a mysql.txt |
| [17:51:03] | ikonia: | have you run mythtv-setup |
| [17:52:41] | sPiN-: | yeah, it is when i run that that it gives all the output about not being about to connect to db, it starts, but it only asks languages and mysql settings then exits and it obviously cant save to the db |
| [17:52:50] | sPiN-: | im not that hot with mysql cli.... |
| [17:53:09] | sPiN-: | but i know the db is in there and the user is there... |
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| [17:53:50] | ikonia: | its probable a user@host problem |
| [17:53:58] | xris: | sPiN-: mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [17:54:04] | xris: | (notice no space after the -p) |
| [17:54:12] | sPiN-: | xris: yes, i did that and im in |
| [17:54:37] | xris: | sPiN-: I didn't see the db name at the end there |
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| [17:54:55] | xris: | anyway, make sure you don't have multiple mysql.txt files on your system |
| [17:55:21] | sPiN-: | in ~/.mysql/mysql.txt |
| [17:55:48] | xris: | sPiN-: there could be one in /etc or /usr/share/mythtv or /.mythtv (of all strange places)..... |
| [17:55:53] | xris: | actually, it's /etc/mythtv |
| [17:57:10] | sPiN-: | ah ya! |
| [17:57:18] | sPiN-: | i didnt have qt3-mysql isntalled |
| [17:57:28] | sPiN-: | thanks fellas, all set now :) |
| [17:57:35] | xris: | ahh |
| [17:58:29] | sPiN-: | gotta get this done in a hurry so i can program simpsons and such to record them get to moms place to cook dinner :P |
| [18:01:45] | sPiN-: | http://pastebin.ca/55833 can anyone tell me how i can get around this error |
| [18:02:36] | sPiN-: | not a pressing issue, but i would like to have more of the plugins working, they were fine on suse 10, after i edited the settings.pro to point to the right lib paths(64bit) but now i get that when i try to compile, and i dont know what to do |
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| [18:07:49] | sPiN-: | mwahahah! it works! |
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| [18:13:22] | Juski: | well that was another shite instalment of The Simpsons. Fox might not feel able to cancel it, but I sure do ;-) |
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| [18:15:35] | tom7e: | if yum install mythtv-suite gets a "no match" does that mean i don't have the right repositories installed? |
| [18:15:40] | kleptophobiac: | in xine, is there a way to use the arrow buttons for both menu nav and ff/rw? |
| [18:17:25] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: try xine --showkeymap |
| [18:17:37] | kleptophobiac: | i'm looking at the keymap file |
| [18:17:47] | Juski: | most DVD menus won't let you FF & RW anyway |
| [18:17:57] | kleptophobiac: | but i'm wondering how xine will treat double assigned buttons |
| [18:18:15] | Juski: | should I post my lircrc file for you to look at? |
| [18:18:20] | kleptophobiac: | that'd be nice |
| [18:18:23] | kleptophobiac: | what kind of remote are you using? |
| [18:18:51] | Juski: | heh. now you ask a silly question. My own, home made protocol for an All In One remote |
| [18:19:28] | kleptophobiac: | ah |
| [18:19:39] | Juski: | btw folks: here's that 192 channel audio system I saw on Tv yesterday: http://www.iosono-sound.com/ |
| [18:19:51] | kleptophobiac: | i got a $18 remote from radioshack |
| [18:19:58] | kleptophobiac: | it's got an annoying voice based programming menu |
| [18:20:00] | kleptophobiac: | but beyond that |
| [18:20:04] | kleptophobiac: | i like it a lot |
| [18:20:07] | psofa: | kleptophobiac, btw the best thing ive found for videos/dvds with many lirc functions is vlc |
| [18:20:16] | psofa: | and i higly recommend it |
| [18:20:19] | kleptophobiac: | dammit |
| [18:20:27] | kleptophobiac: | and i just got xine more or less functional |
| [18:20:35] | kleptophobiac: | :p |
| [18:20:42] | psofa: | maybe it suits you |
| [18:20:46] | kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [18:20:47] | psofa: | but it drove me crazy |
| [18:20:49] | kleptophobiac: | i'll try anything |
| [18:21:04] | kleptophobiac: | vlc do menus? |
| [18:21:09] | psofa: | yes |
| [18:21:11] | kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [18:21:20] | kleptophobiac: | i use vlc on my windows box |
| [18:21:23] | psofa: | although one or two times it has done crap with them |
| [18:21:24] | kleptophobiac: | never tried it under *nix |
| [18:21:28] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: www.juski.co.uk/lircrc |
| [18:21:31] | kleptophobiac: | k |
| [18:21:32] | psofa: | kleptophobiac, its the same thing |
| [18:22:16] | kleptophobiac: | what's rootmenu and osdstreaminfos? |
| [18:22:31] | kleptophobiac: | i've been grappling with which menus i want to assign buttons |
| [18:22:31] | psofa: | the only – ive found is that it doesnt have xvmc |
| [18:22:41] | kleptophobiac: | meh |
| [18:22:44] | sPiN- is now known as sPiN | |
| [18:22:45] | kleptophobiac: | i couldn't care less about that |
| [18:23:31] | tom7e: | anyone here with experience installing Hauppauge PVR cards on Fedora 5? |
| [18:25:21] | Ryushin: | tom7e: Not if I can help it. :) |
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| [18:25:44] | tom7e: | hah |
| [18:25:50] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: osdstreaminfos shows you info about what you're playing |
| [18:26:06] | Juski: | rootmenu is the button that takes you back to a DVDs main menu |
| [18:26:39] | Ryushin: | tom7e: A lot of us, that are using svn, build our own kernels too. So then it's fairly generic between distros. I don't know if you're trying to use rpms or not. |
| [18:27:05] | Juski: | flippin' eck! http://www.idmt.fraunhofer.de/site-pics/bilda . . . no_panel.jpg |
| [18:28:10] | tom7e: | i'd prefer rpms. |
| [18:28:28] | kleptophobiac: | cool |
| [18:28:37] | kleptophobiac: | what's the difference between menu, rootmenu, and titlemenu? |
| [18:28:41] | kleptophobiac: | menu took me to the same |
| [18:28:45] | Ryushin: | Yea, I use to prefer debs for myself. But with all the HD, and IVTV stuff now, I'm sourcing it. |
| [18:29:27] | tom7e: | in my short linux experience, sourcing is infinite regression and misery |
| [18:30:10] | kleptophobiac: | i source it, but create packages so i can do easy maint. |
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| [18:30:55] | Ryushin: | Well, it's even more so with RedHat, as you don't have access to the vast software repositories of debian or gentoo. But at least for the PVR-350, you'll want to use the IVTV source. |
| [18:30:57] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: experiment – menu will take you back to the last used menu, or the one specified in the playing data within the IFO file |
| [18:31:30] | Ryushin: | tom7e: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| [18:31:30] | xris: | tom7e: have you read jarod's guide? it covers everything you need for fedors and mythtv |
| [18:31:39] | kleptophobiac: | Juski – thanks |
| [18:31:52] | Juski: | xris: yeh it does – and lots more besides :-) |
| [18:32:11] | Ryushin: | tom7e: You need the 0.6.2 drivers |
| [18:32:22] | Juski: | he goes to a lot of trouble to explain WHY you're doing stuff unlike some other howto guides |
| [18:33:12] | xris: | Juski: and that's why he now works for redhat. heh |
| [18:33:32] | Juski: | heheh |
| [18:33:37] | Juski: | good for him! |
| [18:34:43] | tom7e: | i tried the jarod guy once before and got stuck on yumming something that didn't exist for my kernel |
| [18:35:01] | tom7e: | after i reinstalled linux i've retried it but can't even got mythtv-suite |
| [18:35:35] | Juski: | might be time to try another repository then |
| [18:35:41] | tom7e: | i'm trying the ivtv now.. |
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| [18:36:29] | Juski: | I've heard that FC can be pretty hellish when dependencies get involved. for all its ills Gentoo isn't so bad compared to others |
| [18:36:48] | xris: | tom7e: jarod's is the best guide for fedora. if you can't set it up with that guide, then either atrpms is messed up or you're not doing something right. |
| [18:37:06] | xris: | Juski: except that it's gentoo and would be a nightmare for a fedora user to try to use. |
| [18:37:15] | tom7e: | i'm trying to install the ivtv right now. get this error in make : make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15–1.2054_FC5smp/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| [18:37:21] | kleptophobiac: | since we're in distro argument mode |
| [18:37:28] | kleptophobiac: | it's time for my spiel advertising for archlinux |
| [18:37:32] | kleptophobiac: | it's really simple |
| [18:37:54] | kleptophobiac: | fantastic package management |
| [18:37:59] | kleptophobiac: | active and knowledgeable community |
| [18:38:11] | kleptophobiac: | not the easiest distro, but certainly the simplest |
| [18:38:25] | xris: | tom7e: install kernel-devel |
| [18:38:55] | xris: | still, I recommend installing it via atrpms.... |
| [18:38:58] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: this isn't distro argument mode. hell no! |
| [18:39:11] | ** Juski whistles some trolls into the channel ** | |
| [18:39:13] | Ryushin: | tom7e: Do you have the source for you kernel? |
| [18:39:27] | kleptophobiac: | hehe |
| [18:39:37] | Ryushin: | You will probably want to download your redhat source, and compile it. Then have IVTV pull from that. |
| [18:39:45] | Ryushin: | Be back in a bit. |
| [18:40:07] | xris: | Ryushin: no need |
| [18:40:12] | xris: | just need the devel headers |
| [18:40:12] | tom7e: | i've had success compiling about 2% of what i've attempting, no way am i going to try and compile a kernel |
| [18:40:26] | xris: | tom7e: learn to use "yum provides" |
| [18:40:30] | kleptophobiac: | what's titlemenu? |
| [18:40:39] | Juski: | tom7e: no it's not to compile your own kernel – ivtv needs the source |
| [18:40:56] | xris: | Juski: no it doesn't |
| [18:41:09] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: titlemenu... er... should be the top level menu after root |
| [18:41:28] | kleptophobiac: | meh? |
| [18:41:31] | Juski: | xris: it doesn't? ahh yes.. 2.6.16 kernels & ivtv 0.6.x |
| [18:41:33] | kleptophobiac: | what's that mean? |
| [18:41:41] | Juski: | lol |
| [18:41:44] | xris: | Juski: just needs the header files, which come in the -devel package |
| [18:41:51] | tom7e: | i'm getting the kernel-devel that xris recommended |
| [18:41:56] | Juski: | oops... headers != source |
| [18:42:01] | xris: | tom7e: why not just install from atrpms? |
| [18:42:16] | tom7e: | xris: I can't. yum install mythtv-suite doesn't work |
| [18:42:18] | tom7e: | not found |
| [18:42:36] | xris: | tom7e: how does that relate to ivtv? |
| [18:42:49] | xris: | (also, you might try enabling the "testing" repository, which I think is needed for fc5) |
| [18:42:54] | kleptophobiac: | bleh, now i need to go get a dvd to test with |
| [18:42:58] | Juski: | I think that's why I gave up on FC |
| [18:43:35] | tom7e: | xris: i'll go look up when i was trying to get something of ivtv from yum and report back |
| [18:43:51] | Juski: | oh that, and the fact I didnt know how to get X back when I set it to a mode my monitor didn't like... but that was a long time ago |
| [18:44:17] | kleptophobiac: | xine has a lot of bullshit controls i don't need |
| [18:44:27] | xris: | Juski: fedora has come a long way.... most distros have. |
| [18:45:04] | tom7e: | xris: this is what i should do then: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Fedora |
| [18:46:04] | xris: | tom7e: pretty much. except that you might need to use atrpms-testing isntead of atrpms-stable — which is probably why your mythtv-suite install didn't work |
| [18:46:48] | Juski: | yeah xris – they must have- I know how to get linux working now ;-) |
| [18:47:53] | xris: | Juski: I do, too.. but I still wouldn't attempt gentoo.. I just like having things done for me, and I know that gentoo still makes you do a lot of things on your own. |
| [18:47:57] | xris: | would drive me nuts. |
| [18:48:07] | tom7e: | ok i'll go to root and try that out then |
| [18:48:09] | xris: | I tried ubuntu for awhile, but it rubbed me the wrong way for some reason |
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| [18:48:41] | xris: | someone should show him how to use sudo or su.... |
| [18:48:47] | xris: | I'm off to do mother's day stuff... later. |
| [18:51:04] | nero__: | sudo rocks.. |
| [18:52:38] | gardengnome: | /etc/sudoers sucks, though |
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| [18:57:01] | tom7e: | nope! |
| [18:57:08] | tom7e: | dependency errors |
| [18:57:09] | tom7e: | lol |
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| [18:59:42] | ivor: | lol... 00:38 #mythtv-users: * Juski has ivor on his side |
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| [19:01:51] | ivor: | hmmm how come every time my in-laws come to stay... 'grandad' manages to break myth. |
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| [19:05:26] | tom7e: | any possible reason why atrpms doesn't have mythtv? |
| [19:06:18] | ivor: | tom7e: http://atrpms.net/dist/common/mythtv-suite/ ? |
| [19:07:26] | tom7e: | then why the heck does yum provides mythtv-suite turn up nothing! ahh, i hate this |
| [19:08:19] | CescoAiel: | How is your yum config set up? |
| [19:08:31] | tom7e: | hmm |
| [19:08:45] | tom7e: | should enabled be =0 or =1? |
| [19:09:15] | CescoAiel: | 1 |
| [19:09:34] | CescoAiel: | 0=false 1=true |
| [19:09:40] | tom7e: | there's my problem i bet, they are all =0 |
| [19:09:50] | CescoAiel: | Try enabled=1 |
| [19:09:52] | tom7e: | are .repo.1 backup files? because i have one of those that seems correct |
| [19:10:20] | CescoAiel: | I'm not sure |
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| [19:10:36] | CescoAiel: | been a while since I've done RPM |
| [19:10:44] | CescoAiel: | Oh, he's gone |
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| [19:15:11] | CescoAiel: | Q: I have Knoppmyth with 0.19, SIS741 based VGA; Hauppage PVR250 with grey remote. All works pretty much OK, and keyboard navigation is usually OK. However pressing a button on the IR Remote causes the MythTV screen to go black for 1~2 sec. When using mplayer or xine, or lircnav, the screen does not black-out... |
| [19:15:16] | CescoAiel: | Any suggestions? |
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| [19:16:37] | destar: | hello |
| [19:16:42] | CescoAiel: | hello |
| [19:17:18] | destar: | In the myth music setup screen what is meant by the 'Filename Format' that is right under the 'Tree Sorting' setting? |
| [19:18:20] | CescoAiel: | I'd have to check the setting out first to be able to answer <G> |
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| [19:18:29] | Juski: | dammit! I need another DVB tuner!!! |
| [19:18:32] | CescoAiel: | maybe someone else answer vefore that... |
| [19:19:28] | Juski: | destar: it means sort by filename first, then by format |
| [19:19:34] | destar: | I have all my music in folders like 'A-D' E-J' etc,etc Is there a way to display those folders then inside display the 'Artist – Song Name.mp3'? |
| [19:19:40] | kleptophobiac: | dvb is a europe thing? |
| [19:19:42] | Juski: | so you'd get a-z in mp3, followed by a-z in ogg – IIRC |
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| [19:19:56] | destar: | Ah, ok |
| [19:19:59] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: no not just europe |
| [19:20:12] | kleptophobiac: | ok... |
| [19:20:21] | kleptophobiac: | but not a US thing, right? |
| [19:20:41] | Juski: | CescoAiel: I've seen someone on the mythtvtalk forums with that problem. is that you? |
| [19:20:59] | gardengnome: | destar: either use "directory" so mythmusic just shows the file system layout or use one of those special sorting thingies whose name i forgot – i only know there are two other them, one being named like the other one only with an "1" appended |
| [19:21:01] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: last night someone told me you have DVB-S in the USA |
| [19:21:10] | kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [19:21:10] | kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [19:21:18] | kleptophobiac: | i've not ventured into the whole digital tv thing yet |
| [19:21:23] | Juski: | free to air, even :-) |
| [19:21:30] | CescoAiel: | Mythtvtalk forums? |
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| [19:21:45] | CescoAiel: | Cannot recall signing up there |
| [19:21:47] | Juski: | CescoAiel: so it wasn't you then. that means you're not alone |
| [19:21:58] | CescoAiel: | LOL |
| [19:22:03] | CescoAiel: | that's encouraging |
| [19:22:06] | destar: | gardengnome, lol, thanks, |
| [19:22:49] | Juski: | I'll try to find the thread when I resolve this recording conflict |
| [19:23:14] | CescoAiel: | I'll check out the forums myself as well |
| [19:23:16] | CescoAiel: | BRB |
| [19:24:01] | Juski: | what the fuck?! I just scheduled a show to be recorded later, and the show I _want_ recording now isnt in the upcoming list |
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| [19:24:29] | destar: | gardengnome, do you know where I can find those special sorting options? |
| [19:24:35] | Juski: | but in the program guide grid, sure enough it saysit's gonna be recorded :-/ |
| [19:24:57] | gardengnome: | destar: uh, it's in the settings for mythfrontend |
| [19:25:12] | Juski: | oops... chair-keyboard interface error *-) |
| [19:26:30] | tom7e: | how do you test ivtv once installed (i don't have mythtv yet) |
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| [19:27:05] | destar: | gardengnome, I have read through that and never saw those. Are you saying in Setup/Media Settings/Music Settings/General Settings? |
| [19:27:24] | gardengnome: | destar: i think so, i don't have mythmusic handy at the moment, sorry |
| [19:27:26] | gardengnome: | aaah |
| [19:27:29] | gardengnome: | splitartist, i think |
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| [19:27:31] | destar: | If it is when you highlight Tree Sorting then I cant read the bottom half, it runs off the screen |
| [19:28:33] | destar: | thats alright, splitartist is there and so is splitartist1, I need to find out what these settings mean but they re not in the myth documentation on the myth website |
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| [19:28:59] | Juski: | destar: you probably need to adjust the X & Y size of the UI in the appearance menu so you can see everything |
| [19:29:56] | destar: | Juski, I had never thought about doing that, I have just accepted it since .16. I'll give that a try. |
| [19:31:12] | Juski: | it's a royal PITA to do, but you only need do it once for that TV |
| [19:31:49] | Juski: | when I get some free time (hahahahaha) I'm gonna have a go at making it easier |
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| [19:32:35] | destar: | I'll whack away at it, I only have the one TV so it shouldn't be too bad. |
| [19:32:47] | Juski: | oh that, and mythgallery's aspect ratio |
| [19:33:26] | destar: | Is the setting in appereance of the setup? |
| [19:35:29] | Juski: | ? |
| [19:35:39] | Juski: | appearance is setup in mythfrontend |
| [19:35:53] | Juski: | utils/setup > settings> appearance |
| [19:35:57] | destar: | I found it, I was asking about how to adjust the X,Y |
| [19:36:00] | destar: | right |
| [19:36:23] | tom7e: | lol i change nothing and now yum install mythtv-suite is working. |
| [19:36:25] | Juski: | change the numbers. start at your desktop resolution then decrease each, let it resize... |
| [19:36:36] | Juski: | defaults are zero – no resizing |
| [19:37:04] | Juski: | tom7e: that's cool. must've just been unobtainable for a while |
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| [19:41:49] | gardengnome: | http://katja.sickboy.eu/english.php – if anyone needs a good laugh... |
| [19:42:42] | Zider: | and where is the laugh? |
| [19:42:48] | Ryushin: | Does the native nv xorg driver support xv extensions? |
| [19:42:57] | gardengnome: | Zider: i think it's ridicolous :) |
| [19:43:03] | nero__: | ugh.. transcode seems to not be working.. |
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| [19:43:27] | Zider: | gardengnome: because someone wants normal girls on the cover? |
| [19:44:21] | gardengnome: | Zider: i don't think it's bad, but i'm not sure if the rtv guys are satisfied with the result of their vote :)) |
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| [19:45:46] | kai_: | hi. i have an empty file .sudo_as_admin_successful in the home directories of both my mythtv user and my main user account. both have the date of an attempt to install mythtv (one from today, the other one month ago). i'm a bit worried that my system has been hacked. i couldn't find anything on google about such a file. has anyone ever heard of that? |
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| [19:46:37] | _nero_: | if I select transcode from a frontend, will the backend machine do the transcoding?? |
| [19:47:05] | gardengnome: | yep |
| [19:47:07] | Juski: | this month on the cover of T3 magazine, a 17 stone heffer holding the new poobox from nintendo.. (poo comes after wee afaik) |
| [19:47:27] | dickhead is now known as psofa | |
| [19:47:32] | ** Juski gets his coat ** | |
| [19:47:35] | kleptophobiac: | omg |
| [19:47:43] | kleptophobiac: | the interlaced modeline works with the new nvidia drivers |
| [19:47:45] | kleptophobiac: | amazing! |
| [19:47:59] | Juski: | and it didn't with the old one? |
| [19:48:08] | kleptophobiac: | nope |
| [19:48:18] | kleptophobiac: | i'm running 1080i now |
| [19:48:25] | kleptophobiac: | whereas i was using 540p or 720p |
| [19:49:06] | kleptophobiac: | things look a *LOT* better now that i'm not taking interlaced video, deinterlacing it, and putting it back onto an interlaced screen |
| [19:49:45] | kleptophobiac: | holy cow, this is fantastic |
| [19:49:47] | psofa is now known as dickhead | |
| [19:49:51] | ivor: | lol |
| [19:49:58] | kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [19:50:22] | Juski: | some people are easily pleased. I hope nvidia doesnt notice :-P |
| [19:50:33] | kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [19:51:01] | kleptophobiac: | i'm pleased when things work properly |
| [19:51:03] | Juski: | I think ATI just went "look, people are celebrating that we have a linux driver... stop work everybody" |
| [19:51:15] | kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [19:51:23] | kleptophobiac: | there's a reason i don't use ati cards under *nix |
| [19:51:52] | Juski: | there's a reason I don't use em full stop. I never got my AIW-pro working for more than 5 minutes at a time |
| [19:52:01] | Juski: | in windows |
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| [19:52:03] | kleptophobiac: | i hate the AIW cards |
| [19:52:07] | kleptophobiac: | as a general rule |
| [19:52:11] | ** _nero_ wishes he could get interlaced/proper resolution to his SDTV.. ** | |
| [19:53:03] | gardengnome: | so do i. |
| [19:53:28] | _nero_: | I cant even get my nvidia drivers to do overscan.. once I get larger than my screens dimensions, all goes to hell.. :( |
| [19:53:44] | _nero_: | (and this is with the "stable" 7676 drivers.. or whatever the "good" ones were) |
| [19:54:03] | kleptophobiac: | 7676 were good |
| [19:54:10] | gardengnome: | yeah, 7676 works fine for me |
| [19:54:10] | kleptophobiac: | but these new 8756 ones are very good |
| [19:54:21] | gardengnome: | kleptophobiac: did they fix the opengl vsync oddities? |
| [19:54:58] | kleptophobiac: | the 100% cpu usage? |
| [19:55:01] | kleptophobiac: | good question |
| [19:55:06] | kleptophobiac: | i should go try that |
| [19:55:31] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [19:56:03] | kleptophobiac: | hey |
| [19:56:05] | kleptophobiac: | look at that |
| [19:56:08] | kleptophobiac: | normal CPU usage |
| [19:56:29] | gardengnome: | woohoo! |
| [19:56:32] | Ryushin: | I'm about to try running my FX5200 using the nv driver. Hopefully XV extensions will work. |
| [19:56:36] | gardengnome: | gotta upgrade tomorrow |
| [19:56:37] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [19:56:42] | _nero_: | wow.. so maybe I should try the new nvidia drivers.. woohoo.. |
| [19:56:44] | kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [19:56:58] | kleptophobiac: | i haven't tried xvmc though... didn't bother compiling that in |
| [19:57:51] | kleptophobiac: | correction |
| [19:57:53] | kleptophobiac: | lower than usual CPU |
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| [19:58:41] | kleptophobiac: | but that's probably because i'm not deinterlacing anymore |
| [20:00:06] | Ryushin: | POS nvidia!!!! |
| [20:01:08] | Ryushin: | What non nvidia card can do dvi? I'd prefer ATI but not with a binary driver. |
| [20:01:50] | Ryushin: | I have a Radeon 9000, but I can't do HD with it because XV can do more than 1024x768 on it. Same problem with the one in my laptop. |
| [20:02:31] | Ryushin: | So if ATI and Nvidia is out. That's leaves S3 I guess. So is there a DVI card with S3 that works? |
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| [20:02:47] | Ryushin: | Maybe a matrox. Hmmm.... |
| [20:04:56] | Ryushin: | Is there a open ATI driver for the newer cars? |
| [20:05:23] | ivor: | Ryushin: no xvmc on ati or matrox though. |
| [20:06:21] | Ryushin: | ivor: I'm about to say, I don't care anymore. |
| [20:06:36] | Ryushin: | A processor is cheaper than a video card now days. |
| [20:06:49] | Ryushin: | But what works. What alternatives exist. |
| [20:07:51] | _nero_: | uuuh.. what happens if mid-transcode, the backend goes out?? |
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| [20:09:12] | ** ivor spent the afternoon in Foyle's and has so many books he doesn't care either.... ** | |
| [20:09:37] | Juski: | what _is_ the big deal about binary drivers anyway? (eek I blasphemed) |
| [20:10:03] | ivor: | Juski: the fact that noone can fix them or understand what the problem is when stuff breaks |
| [20:10:11] | Juski: | _nero_: you would likely be okay |
| [20:10:28] | ivor: | you just have to sit on your thumbs waiting for a magic update from the vendor |
| [20:10:33] | Juski: | ivor: but apart from that... |
| [20:10:46] | ivor: | then at any point they decide oh we can't be bothered producing new/working drivers for your older board |
| [20:11:01] | ivor: | because after all... why do they care, you're not spending money on new hardware. |
| [20:11:02] | Juski: | that's called selling new stuff ;-) |
| [20:11:20] | ivor: | yeah, you asked what the problem was. so I told you. :D |
| [20:11:23] | Juski: | fair reasons I suppose |
| [20:12:39] | Juski: | I wonder how big the generic nvidia driver will be in a few years time |
| [20:13:01] | Juski: | it's bloody ridiculous now |
| [20:13:14] | ivor: | Juski: well if they designed it well enough it should be just a small binary card specific hal, and all the driver code as source. |
| [20:18:35] | Dibblah_: | Growf. Anyone else been fighting with suspend to RAM and Nvidia? |
| [20:19:45] | Dibblah_: | Not just the card – I'm reasonably certain the nforce2 motherboard is at least partially responsible. |
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| [20:23:17] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [20:23:32] | Juski: | gardengnome: what is the dot clock freq. of that modeline you've been trying? |
| [20:24:09] | gardengnome: | Juski: uh. http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/vga2scart/ – help yourself :) i was trying "720x576pali", among others |
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| [20:32:40] | Juski: | gardengnome: I think either your TV isn't up to it, or the circuit is busted |
| [20:40:20] | Juski: | hmm that nexus page doesn't use the blanking signal on pin16 |
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| [21:01:31] | gardengnome: | Juski: well. i'd like to blame it on the circuit. but mind you, my TV is quite old :/ |
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| [21:02:11] | AlmtyBob: | I'm on ubuntu and it installed mysql 4.0. Is it possible to upgrade mysql to 4.1 without losing my data? |
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| [21:04:14] | georgek: | AlmtyBob, I don't believe that there is a 'data conversion' upgrade from 4.0.x to 4.1. Most all of the upgrade guides I've seen, had you export your data to .sql files, uninstall the old version, remove the old databases, install the new 4.1, then import the .sql backups. |
| [21:04:28] | AlmtyBob: | sounds painful |
| [21:04:35] | georgek: | nah, not bad at all. |
| [21:04:37] | AlmtyBob: | I can't believe mythtv 4.0 doesn't allow subqueries |
| [21:04:51] | gardengnome: | mysql* |
| [21:04:59] | AlmtyBob: | is there a guide somewhere? I tried googling "ubuntu mysql 4.1 upgrade" and a few others with no luck |
| [21:05:45] | AlmtyBob: | it took me so long to get all this working it kills me to think of screwing up the install |
| [21:06:02] | georgek: | There is a Gentoo guide, which most info would apply regarding the exporting to .sql files and such. |
| [21:06:33] | AlmtyBob: | do you have the url for it? |
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| [21:07:06] | georgek: | are you using a mysql administer program like mysql-administrator or phpmyadmin? Those tools will easily export/backup the mythconverg database to .sql file. |
| [21:07:15] | AlmtyBob: | yah |
| [21:07:23] | AlmtyBob: | do I need to export the mysql database also? |
| [21:07:53] | georgek: | I usualy don't bother. I'll recreate the user grants on the new ones. |
| [21:08:15] | opello: | `mysqldump` |
| [21:08:25] | georgek: | opello, yup:) |
| [21:08:39] | georgek: | anyway, I don't know if I'd bother with anything other than mysql 5.0 these days. |
| [21:08:57] | opello: | i didn't believe 4.0 didn't have subqueries, but i just tried and it errors, crazy |
| [21:11:44] | georgek: | I love having stored proceedures with mysql 5.0 – makes things easy for people who like to manipulate thier database manually :) |
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| [21:29:57] | CescoAiel: | I've been searching the MythTVtalk forums with all keyword combo's I could thinks of for lircd and button presses, black screens, etc. |
| [21:30:03] | CescoAiel: | Found nothing useful |
| [21:30:25] | Niklas_E: | is there any svn version of mythtv? |
| [21:30:32] | CescoAiel: | Weirdest thing is IMHO that only Mythfrontend seems to give the black screens... |
| [21:30:46] | CescoAiel: | mplayer, xine and lircnav work fine |
| [21:30:59] | CescoAiel: | and when either of those has focus, |
| [21:31:13] | CescoAiel: | there's no black screen on MFE either |
| [21:31:16] | CescoAiel: | :-/ |
| [21:31:23] | Niklas_E: | CescoAiel: saa7134 or? |
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| [21:33:39] | CescoAiel: | PVR250 |
| [21:33:44] | CescoAiel: | SIS741 |
| [21:33:47] | CescoAiel: | FluxBox |
| [21:33:50] | Juski: | CescoAiel: maybe I got it confused with the mailing list |
| [21:33:51] | CescoAiel: | Myth 0.19 |
| [21:33:55] | CescoAiel: | could be |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | .. or even here |
| [21:34:00] | CescoAiel: | that *would* have been me |
| [21:34:03] | CescoAiel: | ;-) |
| [21:35:01] | Juski: | CescoAiel: have you tried a different wm? |
| [21:35:47] | CescoAiel: | Not yet... |
| [21:35:58] | CescoAiel: | I guess I could try xfce |
| [21:36:06] | CescoAiel: | or maybe even *gasp* KDE |
| [21:36:08] | CescoAiel: | ;-) |
| [21:36:36] | CescoAiel: | But what I find strange is that only the MFE shows that behavior |
| [21:36:43] | CescoAiel: | and only on remote buttons |
| [21:36:55] | CescoAiel: | so normal keyboard nav works fine |
| [21:37:15] | Juski: | is that with the ivtv lirc module? |
| [21:37:47] | CescoAiel: | (most of the time... Sometimes the keyboard just stops working in certain area's, requiring a restart of MFE to restore full functionality) |
| [21:37:49] | CescoAiel: | yes |
| [21:37:55] | CescoAiel: | ivtv lirc |
| [21:38:16] | CescoAiel: | as provided by KnoppMyth |
| [21:38:36] | CescoAiel: | using SIS741 VGA as output |
| [21:38:43] | CescoAiel: | with SIS X11 driver |
| [21:39:08] | Juski: | try the knoppmyth forums – about all I can say really |
| [21:39:14] | CescoAiel: | LOL |
| [21:39:20] | Juski: | time for some more mythtv |
| [21:39:39] | Juski: | seriously – it sounds like a weird problem to me |
| [21:39:47] | CescoAiel: | Tell me about it! |
| [21:39:49] | CescoAiel: | :-o |
| [21:40:24] | CescoAiel: | Maybe I'll try mythdora or just Ubuntu with MythTV debs |
| [21:41:38] | CescoAiel: | Anyway... going to bed now... |
| [21:41:46] | CescoAiel: | More Myth tomorrow! |
| [21:42:01] | CescoAiel: | nite all! |
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| [21:44:23] | Varanger: | mchou: are you here? |
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| [21:50:18] | Mattwj2005: | boy crappy reception really screws up MP4 compression |
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| [21:50:52] | Mattwj2005: | I had a bad coxial cable and my files started getting huge |
| [21:51:08] | Mattwj2005: | the problem is fixed now :) |
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| [21:53:47] | Varanger: | Mattwj2005: MP4 compression? XviD, DivX ?? |
| [21:53:56] | Varanger: | which one are you using |
| [21:53:57] | Varanger: | ? |
| [21:54:17] | Mattwj2005: | MPEG 4.....the other option besides MPEG2 |
| [21:54:43] | gardengnome: | Juski: i think that wiring up hsync should help a lot. i..forgot to do that. |
| [21:54:49] | Varanger: | I don't think there is a pure MPEG 4 |
| [21:55:35] | Varanger: | There are Quicktime, DivX, XviD, H.264 |
| [21:55:39] | Mattwj2005: | which ever one comes with MythTV |
| [21:55:54] | scopeuk: | xvid iirc |
| [21:56:00] | Varanger: | They all say they are Mpeg4 |
| [21:56:16] | Varanger: | scopeuk: Does MythTV use xvid??? |
| [21:56:38] | Varanger: | I am building an infrared receiver for lirc... and I can't find the diode :( |
| [21:56:48] | ** Varanger sucks ** | |
| [21:56:53] | scopeuk: | iir reciver diode? |
| [21:57:00] | BULLE: | Varanger: xvid is basicly mpeg4 |
| [21:57:01] | scopeuk: | old vcr/radio/taperecorder |
| [21:57:07] | Mattwj2005: | have you tried Radio shack or even Ebay? |
| [21:57:15] | scopeuk: | xvid is a compressor used for some mpeg 4 |
| [21:57:27] | BULLE: | Mattwj2005: there are no radio shack stores in europ afaik =) |
| [21:57:36] | scopeuk: | no its called tandy |
| [21:57:37] | Varanger: | It would be faster to go to a electronic device stores |
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| [21:57:44] | Mattwj2005: | lol oh :-P |
| [21:57:45] | Varanger: | faster than ebay |
| [21:57:51] | Varanger: | but there all closed today |
| [21:57:52] | scopeuk: | sparkfun.com? |
| [21:57:57] | scopeuk: | they ship to europe |
| [21:58:12] | evaded: | Hi guys, Mythtv are now been running. Great great great :-) Thanks to the developers of if. It have take a bit time to setup, but's it's very valuable. There are some things a need to be done to complete it like the xmltv, mythweb and the rest are done. Running Debian Sarge, i have compile xmltv from source because i'm in Belgium and need the 'tv_grab_be'. But in 'mythtv' he want to use |
| [21:58:13] | BULLE: | scopeuk: why not use some local company ? =P |
| [21:58:22] | scopeuk: | if there is one |
| [21:58:39] | Varanger: | I bought yesterday and it was only USD 0.015 (like Peruvian soles 0.05) |
| [21:58:45] | scopeuk: | evaded care to put that in the form of a question? |
| [21:58:46] | Varanger: | But it is stopping my project! |
| [21:59:05] | Varanger: | danm ,..... where is it !!!! |
| [21:59:19] | evaded: | He want to use 'tv_grab_be_tlm', so i need to point it to the right point. I have already an xml file with the listing, so i have try it manually wiht 'mythfilldatabase --manual' but he ask nothings |
| [21:59:51] | evaded: | scopeuk: Yeah, sorry i'm on my HHKB and that ' are to near the enter key :-/ |
| [22:00:07] | scopeuk: | no problem |
| [22:00:15] | scopeuk: | i thoughtyour chat client ran out of message bar |
| [22:00:43] | gardengnome: | evaded: he keeps on asking, you say? does it insert channels into the database? if yes, do these entries contain an xmltvid? |
| [22:00:44] | Mattwj2005: | I got automatic commerical skip...heck ya :P |
| [22:00:47] | kleptophobiac: | anybody use edid information from their display to generate modelines? |
| [22:01:29] | evaded: | gardengnome: I think he not add it in the database. I need to verify if it's in the database. I do it quick with phpmyadmin |
| [22:01:49] | gardengnome: | evaded: k |
| [22:02:32] | Mattwj2005: | so any of you guys part of the code of summer? |
| [22:02:45] | Mattwj2005: | *summer of code |
| [22:02:50] | scopeuk: | nope thank god |
| [22:02:55] | scopeuk: | you seen the mo? |
| [22:03:15] | Mattwj2005: | mo? what is that? |
| [22:03:16] | kleptophobiac: | http://pastebin.com/717687 |
| [22:03:28] | kleptophobiac: | that look like a valid pair of modelines? |
| [22:04:40] | evaded: | gardengnome: hhhm, i have found an record in 'mythconvergmythconverg Table: videosourcevideosource' with as entry '3 ttest tv_grab_be_tlm' |
| [22:04:47] | kleptophobiac: | because they don't work... |
| [22:04:47] | kleptophobiac: | http://pastebin.com/717689 |
| [22:05:03] | evaded: | gardengnome: So i guess i need to replace 'tv_grab_be_tlm' to 'tv_grab_be' |
| [22:05:18] | evaded: | gardengnome: Like 'tv_grab_be_tlm' not exist |
| [22:05:24] | gardengnome: | evaded: i was talking about the "channels" table. i doubt that replacing the grabber name in the database is sufficient, anyways. |
| [22:05:40] | gardengnome: | evaded: you could just symlink your grabber to tv_grab_be_tlm, fyi. |
| [22:05:43] | evaded: | gardengnome: Arg, i was to easy :-/ |
| [22:05:58] | evaded: | gardengnome: Yeah, that's right |
| [22:06:11] | gardengnome: | evaded: i'm afraid you're suffering from a bug that prevents you from using mythfilldatabase --manual successfully. that's why i am asking about the xmltvid |
| [22:07:24] | evaded: | gardengnome: Ok, go that way then, i need to say that i'm running Debian Sarge. So need i run 'xmltvid'? I not know many about mythtv, xmltv etc |
| [22:08:05] | gardengnome: | evaded: no. just take a look at your "channels" table in the mythconverg database |
| [22:08:23] | Mattwj2005: | hey scopeuk what do you mean by mo? |
| [22:08:25] | Mattwj2005: | :-s |
| [22:09:26] | evaded: | gardengnome: That column are been empty. Is that sad news? |
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| [22:11:26] | evaded: | gardengnome : So normally when i run 'mythfilldatabase --manual' he ask me some things to do?? Like he do nothings here. |
| [22:11:57] | evaded: | Sorry he do some things, but not ask some things |
| [22:12:27] | evaded: | But i think he not add the listing informations |
| [22:12:49] | Mattwj2005: | anybody else know anything about the Summer of Code? |
| [22:13:06] | gardengnome: | evaded: yep, that's sad news... |
| [22:13:28] | evaded: | gardengnome: Ok, ready to hack?? |
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| [22:14:11] | gardengnome: | evaded: looks like you'll have to a) enter the xmltvids manually in mythtv-setup/mythweb or b) install mythtv from source – 0.19-fixes to be more specific. if you're comfortable with building things from source, i'd recommend going with b) |
| [22:15:10] | evaded: | gardengnome: Yeah i also think to b) But i think my version are already the current one, i'm not sure it's from the marillat or nerim |
| [22:15:58] | gardengnome: | evaded: marillat and nerim is the same, IMHO. and 0.19-fixes is a branch in SVN that will become 0.19.1 at some point in the future. but it should be fairly stable and you get lots of fixes for bugs that were in 0.19. |
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| [22:16:17] | gardengnome: | evaded: FYI: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1759 |
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| [22:17:03] | evaded: | gardengnome: I not take the diff?? I install it from source?? |
| [22:17:12] | scopeuk: | Mattwj2005 mo meaning objectives/motivations |
| [22:17:37] | gardengnome: | evaded: you can also roll your own debian packages from 0.19-fixes. just follow the instructions at svn.mythtv.org, apply marillat's .diff, edit debian/changelog (using dch -v, maybe) and perform a dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -nc... |
| [22:17:46] | gardengnome: | evaded: you cannot apply a .diff to a binary, usually |
| [22:17:54] | evaded: | gardengnome: There are also some troubles with mythbrowser. I had forget to talk about it |
| [22:18:13] | gardengnome: | evaded: i havent used mythbrowser in a looong time. i don't think it's installed here, actually |
| [22:18:17] | Mattwj2005: | yeah I did see the list of ideas |
| [22:18:25] | Mattwj2005: | are all them going to be implemented? |
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| [22:19:11] | scopeuk: | there objectives |
| [22:19:16] | scopeuk: | nto al lof them will be accumplished |
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| [22:19:28] | scopeuk: | some people who will remane nameless whould be happier if some of them wernt |
| [22:19:36] | tom7e: | ATrpms is making me angry today |
| [22:19:56] | evaded: | gardengnome: So i need to take that 'Stable' branch? |
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| [22:20:10] | gardengnome: | evaded: i think so. if it's called 0.19-fixes :) |
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| [22:21:02] | evaded: | gardengnome: So i need to get it from svn?? I'm almost in an new world :-) |
| [22:21:08] | gardengnome: | evaded: yep! |
| [22:21:20] | evaded: | gardengnome: No tarball, then? |
| [22:21:26] | gardengnome: | evaded: nope |
| [22:21:28] | Mattwj2005: | the mythexport and new web interface are my favorite |
| [22:21:34] | evaded: | gardengnome: Banzaaai :-) |
| [22:21:41] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [22:21:44] | Mattwj2005: | I hope those get done this summer |
| [22:23:45] | evaded: | gardengnome: The computer get the source. I take coffee |
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| [22:28:07] | evaded: | gardengnome: So, i go to remove the installed one. A bit crazy it was difficult to set it up. I no more remover the steps exactly how i have do. I guess it's best that i completely remove the already installed one. |
| [22:28:26] | evaded: | s/remover/remember |
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| [22:29:13] | gardengnome: | evaded: just do apt-get remove mythtv-frontend mythtv-database mythtv-backend mythtv-backend libmyth-0.19-dev libmyth-0.19 ;) |
| [22:29:28] | gardengnome: | though you might wanna keep the init script |
| [22:29:34] | gardengnome: | ah well, i'm off to bed, night |
| [22:29:52] | evaded: | gardengnome: Good night ;-) |
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| [22:30:10] | hello_man: | hi guys |
| [22:31:12] | evaded: | Yo |
| [22:31:13] | Mattwj2005: | hello man |
| [22:31:15] | Mattwj2005: | :P |
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| [22:35:11] | Juski: | scopeuk: you talking about me when you say some people who remain nameless? ;-) |
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| [22:41:57] | Mattwj2005: | when are the lucky guys/gals selected? |
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| [22:42:44] | Juski: | closing date of apps is tuesday I believe |
| [22:43:03] | Juski: | so after that, when google decide how many slots to allocate |
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| [22:44:31] | k-man_: | is there a guide to transcoding somewhere? |
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| [22:45:28] | Juski: | k-man_: try the wiki – user manual is in there |
| [22:45:33] | Juski: | and now, to bed |
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| [22:53:58] | WAR_CH|LD: | g'day peeps |
| [22:54:20] | Mattwj2005: | hey war |
| [22:55:13] | Mattwj2005: | war has anyone ever told you that your the bomb? :-P |
| [22:55:22] | WAR_CH|LD: | haha, right. |
| [22:55:34] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, once when I was in the california but some hot chick |
| [22:55:45] | Mattwj2005: | sweet dude |
| [22:55:47] | WAR_CH|LD: | whom I later had sex with in some desert. |
| [22:55:51] | WAR_CH|LD: | true story that. |
| [22:55:53] | WAR_CH|LD: | amasing stuff |
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| [22:56:24] | WAR_CH|LD: | california was alrgith, dunno if I would ever go bac kthou |
| [22:56:36] | Mattwj2005: | my jokes are usually pretty lame....I couldn't resist |
| [22:56:38] | WAR_CH|LD: | seems too much liek an over grown sydney |
| [22:56:39] | Mattwj2005: | why is that? |
| [22:56:55] | WAR_CH|LD: | buit then again I do like sydney |
| [22:56:57] | WAR_CH|LD: | but, hey. I live here |
| [22:56:58] | WAR_CH|LD: | :) |
| [22:56:59] | WAR_CH|LD: | anyway |
| [22:57:02] | Mattwj2005: | never been there either...lol |
| [22:57:07] | WAR_CH|LD: | oh, I got the joke. :P |
| [22:57:11] | Mattwj2005: | okay |
| [22:57:20] | WAR_CH|LD: | anyway |
| [22:57:23] | WAR_CH|LD: | fun and games. :P |
| [22:57:47] | WAR_CH|LD: | my problem is trying to get teh frontend to load from a ssh sessoin, and i Have not physical access. |
| [22:58:06] | WAR_CH|LD: | so I have to make the frontend launch on the currently active x session, I just have no idea on how to do that |
| [22:58:47] | Mattwj2005: | the close I have done like that is used Knoppmyth as a frontend |
| [22:58:51] | Mattwj2005: | *closest |
| [23:00:17] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, and my googling is finding more remote x session type stuff |
| [23:00:55] | Mattwj2005: | why do you want to do that anyways? |
| [23:01:47] | WAR_CH|LD: | because the frontend is about 25k's away and I dont wanna drive there |
| [23:01:55] | WAR_CH|LD: | but I need to load it up for the users, because they are all idiots |
| [23:02:20] | WAR_CH|LD: | so if I jsut rung "mythfrontend" it says it can not connect to the x-session |
| [23:02:29] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [23:02:51] | WAR_CH|LD: | which makes sesnse, so I need it to load on the x session that is running |
| [23:02:58] | WAR_CH|LD: | not the one its looking for on my active ssh session |
| [23:03:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | if that makes sense |
| [23:03:08] | moemoe: | WAR_CH|LD: can you shutdown all x-servers |
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| [23:03:25] | hello_man: | hey guys.. |
| [23:03:37] | moemoe: | and then just execute "nohup startx /path/to/mythfrontend" |
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| [23:03:49] | hello_man: | can somebody tell me if ACPI support is there with mythtv? |
| [23:04:01] | hello_man: | I want to suspend to disk my pc when not in use. |
| [23:04:11] | hello_man: | and want it back for recording automatically.. |
| [23:04:18] | hello_man: | or with remote power button. |
| [23:07:33] | mchou: | hello_man: look into "wake on lan" or "nvram-wakeup" for myth. both methods supported |
| [23:08:19] | mchou: | suspend to disk/ram wont work, since the cpu aint really "running." |
| [23:08:54] | WAR_CH|LD: | why would I want to shut then down thou? |
| [23:09:18] | WAR_CH|LD: | but I see what you are saying. |
| [23:09:19] | mchou: | WAR_CH|LD: huh?? |
| [23:09:34] | WAR_CH|LD: | read up mate. |
| [23:09:48] | mchou: | WAR_CH|LD: read up where? |
| [23:10:01] | WAR_CH|LD: | dw then man, i'm taking part in a differetn conversation |
| [23:10:07] | Mattwj2005: | I got a pretty good picture on mythtv box with MP4.....when the darn coxial cable works :P |
| [23:10:22] | Mattwj2005: | the files are only about 700 MB/hour |
| [23:11:11] | mchou: | Mattwj2005: what capture device is this? |
| [23:11:27] | Mattwj2005: | an old WinTV card |
| [23:11:42] | Mattwj2005: | I mean it is good for my system |
| [23:11:58] | Mattwj2005: | I am sure a PVR-250/350 would look a lot better |
| [23:12:10] | mchou: | Mattwj2005: sheesh, "good" and "wintv" dont belong in the same sentence |
| [23:12:19] | Mattwj2005: | lol |
| [23:12:32] | Mattwj2005: | hey this is a poorman Mythtv box...good for that |
| [23:12:42] | mchou: | even "good" and "pvr-x50" dont belong in same senstence |
| [23:13:15] | mchou: | analog pc card tuners on PC leave a lot to be desired |
| [23:14:06] | Mattwj2005: | I agree but considering I only spent about 40 bucks on parts (I had the rest laying around) I would have to say I am pretty happy with my system |
| [23:14:28] | Mattwj2005: | the 40 bucks was for a case |
| [23:14:50] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: How many is that in euro? |
| [23:15:01] | Mattwj2005: | hmmm |
| [23:15:03] | mchou: | Mattwj2005: you didnt have an older case? |
| [23:15:24] | evaded: | bucks = dollar?? |
| [23:15:33] | mchou: | Mattwj2005: did the case come with PSU? |
| [23:15:48] | Mattwj2005: | not really |
| [23:15:55] | Mattwj2005: | yes it did |
| [23:16:10] | Mattwj2005: | and a few fans with built in lights |
| [23:16:21] | mchou: | hate fans with lights |
| [23:16:31] | mchou: | a real distraction |
| [23:16:53] | Mattwj2005: | really mchou? I like it....it gives my living room a real 70s look |
| [23:16:56] | Mattwj2005: | :P |
| [23:17:18] | mchou: | my dam video card fan had lights |
| [23:17:28] | mchou: | real stupid |
| [23:17:31] | Mattwj2005: | one dollar is equal to 0.7731 € |
| [23:18:09] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Euro? I got an strange unreadable symbol on the screen :-/ |
| [23:18:13] | mchou: | so ~30 Euro? |
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| [23:18:33] | mchou: | basically that's close to 3/4 |
| [23:19:03] | evaded: | That do me remember that i need to look why some times i got strange symbols. I guess i have not the right locals?? |
| [23:19:04] | mchou: | slight more, but we wont quibble over change |
| [23:19:13] | Mattwj2005: | correct |
| [23:19:21] | ** evaded wait that mythtv are compiled :-) ** | |
| [23:20:23] | Mattwj2005: | weird evaded |
| [23:20:42] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: For that symbol? |
| [23:20:45] | Mattwj2005: | yeah |
| [23:21:08] | Mattwj2005: | I just copied and pasted from firefox into gaim |
| [23:21:20] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Normally it's been displayed. I think i have UK locale. I have an HHKB |
| [23:21:35] | Mattwj2005: | hhkb? |
| [23:21:41] | Mattwj2005: | what the heck is that? |
| [23:22:09] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Happy Hacking Keyboard :-/ I mean, the symbol are been displayed when we have UK locale? |
| [23:22:23] | Mattwj2005: | ah gotta ya |
| [23:22:45] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: An funny small keyboard. It's because i have less space on the desk. I have to many old computers near me :-/ |
| [23:22:54] | Mattwj2005: | all I have ever used is US keyboard layout besides the time I worked on a korean computer |
| [23:23:37] | Mattwj2005: | lol....old computers make good Asterisk boxes! |
| [23:23:38] | Mattwj2005: | :P |
| [23:24:03] | evaded: | It's an 'qwerty' keyboard. I not matters if it are azerty. Al my keyboards are a bit diff :-/ |
| [23:24:33] | Mattwj2005: | that's cool |
| [23:24:46] | Mattwj2005: | azerty that is the uk keyboard layout? |
| [23:24:47] | evaded: | Most stuff are recup |
| [23:26:11] | evaded: | I have no many money an like computers. So ... i do with wath i have. But i not complain. My fastest computer are an 1800Ghz 1024MB RAM. Buyed 3,5 years ago |
| [23:26:25] | Mattwj2005: | The only two I really know about as far as American keyboards are Qwerty and Dvarok |
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| [23:26:29] | Mattwj2005: | sweet dude |
| [23:26:40] | Nem^1 is now known as Nem^ | |
| [23:27:34] | evaded: | Yeah, sorry i know, there are guy that have lesser than that. I it do me remmember that i had heard that an little boy has kill him because i wanted an computer and the parents not could pay it :-/ |
| [23:28:24] | Mattwj2005: | that sucks |
| [23:28:59] | evaded: | Strange world. Not nice world. These who needs the stuff, have not it. These who have it, not need it :-/ Stone world |
| [23:30:07] | evaded: | Money/Stuff are the importantest one, if we not have it ... |
| [23:30:51] | Mattwj2005: | that is very true....ladies are the most important thing ;) |
| [23:31:30] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Ladies, you can pay it if you have money :-/ i not talk about 'love' |
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| [23:32:11] | Mattwj2005: | I am just goofing around....I do have to admit though I did have a great year with my last gf |
| [23:32:54] | pigeon: | but you have a better year with mythtv? |
| [23:33:03] | evaded: | lol |
| [23:33:15] | pigeon: | sorry, hi all, can't help it :> |
| [23:33:31] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: I would be come better, believe in it. |
| [23:33:59] | Mattwj2005: | well lets see hmmm...it is entertaining....the software doesn't cost anything...and it is fun |
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| [23:34:06] | Mattwj2005: | sounds pretty good to me! :P |
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| [23:34:44] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: We need to believe in everything ;-) always, take confiance |
| [23:35:11] | Mattwj2005: | thanks evaded |
| [23:35:23] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: lol ;-) |
| [23:35:26] | Mattwj2005: | evaded asl? |
| [23:35:45] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: 25 m Belgiun |
| [23:35:49] | evaded: | m |
| [23:36:00] | Mattwj2005: | oh okay |
| [23:36:17] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Yeah i'm young, i know :-/ |
| [23:36:28] | Mattwj2005: | I figured....guys have a tendence to be into computers more....I do work with some nice ladies |
| [23:36:32] | Vantage13: | where is the ivtv driver site these days? |
| [23:36:41] | Mattwj2005: | actually I am 24/m/Minneasota, US |
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| [23:37:26] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: It's already 7 years i'm to, officially |
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| [23:37:52] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: But i was in another world, an strange one |
| [23:38:04] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: That of M$ :-/ |
| [23:38:06] | Mattwj2005: | 7 years into what? marriage? |
| [23:38:14] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Computers |
| [23:38:32] | Mattwj2005: | what happened? |
| [23:38:33] | bba`linux: | I have a brand new fedora core 5 box installed. I was going to use the precompiled packages. When I go to the pre-compiled section, the link is dead. Anyone know of another link? |
| [23:39:00] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Nothings happend ;-) |
| [23:39:08] | flindet: | I have one card that seems to be recording like ass. Is there any way to prioritize which of my cards myth uses to record? |
| [23:39:12] | Mattwj2005: | lol.... |
| [23:39:21] | flindet: | can I tell it to use one card last? |
| [23:39:34] | Mattwj2005: | sweet.....I am more of a router switch guy.....I play with Linux for fun |
| [23:40:40] | evaded: | aaahhh :-) mythtv looks be compiled ... i take another one cupe of coffee :-) and test it right now :-) oh guys you not know how im so happy :-) |
| [23:42:01] | Mattwj2005: | mythtv rocks...I tend to believe most of the good program is on in the afternoon when I am at work or even late at night |
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| [23:45:01] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: Yeah, i know it rocks :-) I have already use it some days now. But i have remove it and install it now from source. Because i had an little know trouble with xmltv |
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| [23:45:19] | Mattwj2005: | okay cool |
| [23:45:31] | _nero_: | another happy customer.. |
| [23:45:49] | evaded: | Mattwj2005: It's realy good that app :-) i not know many about it, that sure :-/ but ... it come i believe in it ;-) |
| [23:46:33] | evaded: | _nero_: Yeah, you got bear man ;-) |
| [23:46:46] | _nero_: | bear?? or beer?? I definitely have beer.. |
| [23:47:12] | evaded: | _nero_: Oeps, right :-/ beer. i'm an cafeine user :-/ |
| [23:47:29] | Vantage13: | ivtvdriver.org down? or gone for good? |
| [23:47:52] | _nero_: | a wise choice.. caffine is much better for late night coding than beer.. but I still choose beer. |
| [23:48:33] | _nero_: | Vantage13, not sure, but it isn't coming up for me. |
| [23:49:01] | Vantage13: | argh, just when i'm starting to set up my card ;) |
| [23:49:32] | evaded: | Vantage13: Yeah, that's not nice that :-/ |
| [23:49:52] | Vantage13: | well hopefully it's only temporary |
| [23:50:13] | _nero_: | probably.. |
| [23:50:51] | _nero_: | Vantage13, it is just getting you used to the infinite patience that is necessary to get a mythbox running well.. ;) |
| [23:51:24] | Vantage13: | _nero_: i'm well aware, i'm attempting box #2 :) |
| [23:51:55] | _nero_: | hehe.. best of luck.. ;) I got a so-so mythbox running about 2 years ago.. for a year and a half, was fairly unstable.. FINALLY figured out it wsa the video card.. |
| [23:51:59] | Vantage13: | _nero_: first one was a pvr-250 single card in a PC case. This time I've got a pundit-r and two pvr-150's. I'm just asking for pain... |
| [23:52:01] | evaded: | _nero_: I have try 3 times to setup 'mythtv'. The first 2 i have give up to quick and not look good enought |
| [23:52:24] | _nero_: | evaded, stick with it.. once you get it.. oh man, is it good.. |
| [23:52:27] | _nero_: | I even have the |
| [23:52:32] | _nero_: | WAF up to 100% now.. |
| [23:52:35] | _nero_: | (Wife Acceptance Factor) |
| [23:53:00] | evaded: | _nero_: Yeah, that's an really good job be done. Really crazy guys |
| [23:53:04] | Vantage13: | the first one I have is great and runs solid, but it's not the prettiest form factor and I would like to have two cards running at once |
| [23:53:10] | _nero_: | "Mark.. why the hell do we have a computer running our TV again???" |
| [23:53:36] | Vantage13: | _nero_: hit pause. I find that silences most questions ;) |
| [23:53:50] | _nero_: | Vantage13, not pretty form factor, in terms of the case?? |
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| [23:54:09] | _nero_: | Vantage13, yes.. that is unless 1/8 times hitting pause freezes up the machine, requiring a reboot.. |
| [23:54:30] | Vantage13: | _nero_: yeah, my current one is a standard PC case sitting on top of the entertainment centre. the new one is a pundit-r (much smaller and nicer looking) |
| [23:54:40] | _nero_: | it was kind of like playing russian roulette.. will we crash this time.. is it REALLY worth it to take the chance and go pee?? |
| [23:54:56] | _nero_: | Vantage13, yeah.. I still have the beige box sitting next to my TV.. |
| [23:55:02] | Vantage13: | _nero_: whoa. I've never had that problem. the worst I get is mythfrontend crashing once every couple of months... |
| [23:55:17] | _nero_: | about to pull the trigger on an LC17. |
| [23:55:34] | _nero_: | Vantage13, after I swapped out to a new vid card, I haven't crashed once (that was about 4–5 months ago). |
| [23:56:02] | _nero_: | funny thing is, I could have SWORN I tested the video card right off the bat, to see if it was the root of my problems.. guess not.. |
| [23:56:15] | Vantage13: | _nero_: good stuff. my current one is a nvidia card which runs fine, the ati in the pundit on the other hand was a pain in the arse... |
| [23:56:55] | _nero_: | and, it helps that we got a new DTV receiver that has a serial port.. so that the "circuit board thingy that cant be breathed on, let alone dusted" (aka- home made IR transmitter) is gone.. |
| [23:57:24] | _nero_: | yeah.. the old card was a GF4 440MX.. so is the "new" one.. |
| [23:57:45] | _nero_: | verified that the card was crap, by putting it in a friends windows box.. brought his system to its knees within seconds.. (not that this is hard to do..) |
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| [23:59:32] | evaded: | I have just installed mythtv from source. He complain that he not find the mainmenu file 'setup.xml'. Have i miss somethings? |
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