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| [00:00:48] | defi_: | jnunez It happened with 0.4.0 also |
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| [00:02:40] | byco: | anyone around have experience with mythtv running on an intel mac? |
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| [00:05:33] | defi_: | nope sorry |
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| [00:05:58] | scopeuk: | byco good look and let us know hwo it goes |
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| [00:06:42] | byco: | scopeuk: thanks ;) it works as long as i switch applications to get the menus to refresh |
| [00:06:53] | jnunez: | defi_: I got my IVTV working with my 150 at version 4.4 |
| [00:07:16] | byco: | it gets a little old after a while |
| [00:07:42] | defi_: | lol jnunez did you get the errors i was getting? |
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| [00:10:50] | jnunez: | defi_: Yes. LiveTV would work for 2 seconds and then quit out. Recordings did work but then it stopped changing the PVR150 channel |
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| [00:12:04] | hd420: | I'm having trouble with the ivtv driver, is this the appropriate place to ask questions? |
| [00:12:40] | defi_: | jnunez so its 0.4.4 thats the trick, this is funny though cause both cards worked with 0.4.0 before i migrated to a new backend |
| [00:13:30] | jnunez: | defi_: I had issues for a while and was about to get a 250 then tried the 4.4 with a Myth 0.19 |
| [00:14:23] | hd420: | when I try to build ivtv-0.4.4, I get unknown target "modules" |
| [00:14:46] | hd420: | if I change the makefile to remove the modules dependency for all, it goes into a loop :( |
| [00:15:03] | jnunez: | hd420: which distro? |
| [00:15:11] | hd420: | ubuntu breezy |
| [00:15:24] | hd420: | gcc 3.4 |
| [00:17:59] | jnunez: | is your kernel source available at /usr/src/linux |
| [00:21:29] | jnunez: | hd420: check for the kernel source, if it's not that then I am out of ideas |
| [00:22:26] | defi_: | you could also make sure you have CONFIG_VIDEO_AUDIO_DECODER, and CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER set in your kernel config as modules |
| [00:22:50] | defi_: | That cused lotsa problems for me, that is if you using 2.6.15 or higher |
| [00:22:58] | hd420: | i'm using 2.6.10 |
| [00:23:03] | hd420: | 12 |
| [00:23:07] | hd420: | sorry. 2.6.12 |
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| [00:25:18] | jnunez: | yes but is the source code available at /usr/src/linux |
| [00:25:18] | hd420: | ./usr/src/linux-2.6.12 has the kernel source |
| [00:26:17] | hd420: | it is now |
| [00:27:33] | hd420: | nope...still doesn't work |
| [00:27:40] | defi_: | jnunez did you see something like this when your livetv would freeze: |
| [00:28:00] | defi_: | i2c_adapter i2c-1: master_xfer[0] W, addr=0x44, len=3 |
| [00:28:01] | hd420: | the ivtv driver is extracted into /usr/src/ivtv-0.4.4 |
| [00:30:37] | jnunez: | hd420: first confirm that you have a link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 then it that doesn't work try defi_ sugesttions |
| [00:31:03] | defi_: | hes using a kernel < .15 |
| [00:31:33] | hd420: | yes, I have the relevant symlink |
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| [00:32:44] | jnunez: | defi_: I can't remember my error messages of IVTV. It's been a couple of weeks |
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| [00:34:18] | defi_: | ok |
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| [00:39:05] | cliffd: | jnunez: do you have a url for this special 10 pin svideo out to compotnen |
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| [00:39:13] | cliffd: | er, component converter/wire? |
| [00:39:25] | jnunez: | hold on |
| [00:40:05] | hd420: | bloody hell |
| [00:40:07] | hd420: | this sucks! |
| [00:42:32] | lane: | Hi all. I just installed Myth on FC5. I'm having trouble getting xine to accept my remote control. The remote works fine with Myth, and I know my .lircrc file is good (used exact same file and remote on a previous Myth installation). I'm wondering if the freshrpms xine that I installed wasn't compiled with lirc support. Anybody running xine from freshrpms know if that's the case? |
| [00:42:48] | jnunez: | cliffd: http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/workstation_gra . . . ronameid=157 different hardware same plug |
| [00:42:58] | cliffd: | jnunez: thanks. |
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| [00:47:16] | cliffd: | is this quadro chip set better then GeForce. I never heard of it. |
| [00:49:29] | jnunez: | It's for 3D Workstations. Waste of power for a Media System and I am not sure if it's compatible |
| [00:50:05] | cliffd: | ok. thanks for the info |
| [00:50:22] | jnunez: | Just make sure that the NVidia states that it supports HDTV |
| [00:50:24] | cliffd: | im finding higher ranged GeForce cards with that special 10 pin svideo out |
| [00:50:29] | cliffd: | I dont have hdtv |
| [00:50:33] | cliffd: | only sd |
| [00:50:42] | cliffd: | or does that not matter? |
| [00:50:56] | cliffd: | to get the component over svideo out I need hdtv support? |
| [00:51:05] | jnunez: | I know but it's the only ones with the 10 PIN port for the Comp adapter |
| [00:51:20] | jnunez: | yeah |
| [00:51:48] | cliffd: | cool. and comp is my best bet for quality with a SD tv? |
| [00:51:49] | cliffd: | right |
| [00:52:13] | jnunez: | yup |
| [00:52:21] | cliffd: | thanks. |
| [00:52:26] | jnunez: | no prob |
| [00:52:42] | cliffd: | is it hard getting a dvd player to do progressive scan ? from the pvr of course. |
| [00:53:15] | jnunez: | nope Xine and MPlayer are both great |
| [00:53:26] | jnunez: | Xine is my pref. cause of the DVD Menu |
| [00:54:47] | cliffd: | cool. I really appreciate your help. I thought I had this all wrapped up and then my friend tells me "no component is the way to go" |
| [00:54:47] | jnunez: | brb going off to fix my Mame |
| [00:55:01] | cliffd: | tell me about this when you get back! |
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| [01:08:34] | critch: | what menu option forces myth to start recording what is playing now? |
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| [01:16:38] | ncoredump: | This is my setup, and story: I am using a Kworld DVBT usb2 in the uk, I can use Kaffine to tune in all channels and watch them fine, but mythtv has a problem it just constantly reports: timeout scanning: no signal.. |
| [01:17:26] | ncoredump: | The inputs capture and video sources seem to be linked up well |
| [01:17:47] | GreyFoxx: | are you making sure it's set to the same freqency, symbol rate etc etc when it starts scanning ? |
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| [01:20:17] | jnunez: | critch: try Manual Recording |
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| [01:24:23] | ncoredump: | it never locks on |
| [01:24:46] | Gogga: | anyboyd recieve this error when trying to change channels on the sa3250HD > Could not find SA3250HD on the 1394 bus. |
| [01:24:49] | Gogga: | ? |
| [01:25:12] | ncoredump: | I dont how much more and in what other way i can express too this asshole software that I want uk channel sets and frequencys |
| [01:25:19] | ncoredump: | other then to farking rm -fr it |
| [01:26:12] | jnunez: | Gogga: You mentioned you got the test to work via firewire? |
| [01:26:29] | GreyFoxx: | ncoredump: Your best bet are to find out the settingsother users of your service are using fortheir channel scan |
| [01:27:39] | Gogga: | jnunez ya captur test works |
| [01:27:53] | ncoredump: | !!! |
| [01:27:53] | Gogga: | and plugreport shows the node |
| [01:28:30] | Gogga: | as well as gscanbus showing the connected cable box device |
| [01:29:29] | ncoredump: | close but no cigar |
| [01:29:39] | ncoredump: | i think it locked on to one channel and seged the kernel heheh |
| [01:30:12] | ncoredump: | Kafine was causing it to seg as well earlyer aswell but now its alright |
| [01:31:25] | ncoredump: | i swear it could just be my mouse blowing it up |
| [01:37:21] | jnunez: | Gogga: How is the channel changed? Is it with a script? |
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| [01:39:09] | Gogga: | jnuez -> mythtv/contrib/channel_changers/ _> there's a script |
| [01:39:31] | Gogga: | they havce a readme which i followed, sa3250ch-README |
| [01:40:58] | Gogga: | Usage: sa3250ch [-v] <channel_num> |
| [01:41:06] | Gogga: | couldn't figure out what the -v does |
| [01:41:28] | Gogga: | in the readme it saays all yhou havge to do is type sa3250ch [channel] |
| [01:41:48] | ncoredump: | verbose perhaps.. |
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| [01:43:20] | Gogga: | i get: Couldn't get 1394 handle: Permission denied. Is ieee1394, driver, and raw1394 loaded? |
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| [01:43:41] | Gogga: | if i run as root i get Could not find SA3250HD on the 1394 bus. |
| [01:43:46] | ncoredump: | How does Kaffine lock on the local DVBT broadcaster |
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| [01:49:21] | hd420: | bloody ivtv |
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| [01:57:23] | Bleeped: | question: trying to set up KnoppMyth... I keep getting "Unable to connect to backend server... is the IP address correct" can anybody point me in the right direction to figure this one out? |
| [01:58:32] | eiggirC: | is it the only mythbox? if so then the backend is 127.0.0.1 |
| [01:59:31] | Bleeped: | yes, its the only one. |
| [01:59:32] | ncoredump: | "sCAN" goes mad when i feed it a channels.conf as well |
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| [02:03:17] | hd420: | when I try to build ivtv-0.4.4, I get unknown target "modules" |
| [02:03:26] | hd420: | ditto for 0.4.0 |
| [02:03:46] | Anduin: | hd420: kernel version? |
| [02:03:56] | hd420: | 2.6.12 |
| [02:04:14] | hd420: | Anduin: 2.6.12 |
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| [02:10:41] | ncoredump: | bah |
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| [02:10:44] | ncoredump: | this shit dont work |
| [02:11:02] | Anduin: | hd420: do you have a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/Makefile? |
| [02:12:04] | hd420: | indeed, I do, Anduin |
| [02:13:35] | Anduin: | hd420: Did you disable modules? |
| [02:13:59] | hd420: | how do i verify I've done that? |
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| [02:15:00] | Anduin: | hd420: Look at your config, check CONFIG_MODULES. |
| [02:15:04] | Netslayer: | wow, called adelphia last night cause my dvi port wasn't working and got the speal about how they only support "coaxial connections" for hdtv.. |
| [02:15:19] | Netslayer: | now i called back and found out they made a "customer education appointment" |
| [02:15:50] | ncoredump: | do you know other wise Netslayer? |
| [02:15:52] | Netslayer: | they're calling me back cause i threatened an fcc complaint on no active DVI |
| [02:16:05] | ncoredump: | i had a hdtv that i would love to get cooperating with dvi |
| [02:16:08] | Netslayer: | ncoredump, hell ya, how hard is it to plug a dvi cable in from a cable box to a projector |
| [02:16:27] | Netslayer: | i even tried my pc monitor, and she confirmed over the phone that dvi is not supported (disabled) |
| [02:17:31] | LLyric: | Heheh, still persisting? :) |
| [02:17:48] | Netslayer: | "the dvi output is only supported on the DVR HD Boxes and not the regular HD box" ... which is an infraction "(ii) Effective July 1, 2005, include both a DVI or HDMI interface an IEEE 1394 interface on all high definition set-top boxes acquired by a cable operator for distribution to customers" |
| [02:18:10] | ncoredump: | lol |
| [02:18:11] | Netslayer: | LLyric, seriously, they put me on "customer education training" i would have been so pissed if a guy showed up to do that! |
| [02:18:34] | ncoredump: | pesky infacrtions |
| [02:18:46] | Netslayer: | heh |
| [02:19:06] | ncoredump: | mythtv is just giving me the camel now ;( |
| [02:19:14] | ** Netslayer just got his projector mounted and is infront of a 100" hd screen ** | |
| [02:19:26] | ncoredump: | i just gave it a super high gain aerial, and so super long time outs |
| [02:19:32] | ncoredump: | and it still refuses to tango |
| [02:19:59] | ** LLyric watches tv from his laptop, while his kid watches a movie, while wifey watches a recording from her office; all from the same mythtv box. ** | |
| [02:20:02] | LLyric: | mythtv rules :) |
| [02:20:02] | Netslayer: | ncoredump, dtv? |
| [02:20:09] | Netslayer: | nice |
| [02:20:38] | Netslayer: | ya honeslty i have my DVI plugged into my Myth Box, could care less about the cable box..although I like to have something I pay for work |
| [02:21:25] | ncoredump: | yeah but its not funny guys |
| [02:21:32] | ncoredump: | Kafifne has been doing it since 05 |
| [02:21:56] | ** LLyric notes the cpu laod on his myth box is about 60% (of a celeron 566!) ** | |
| [02:21:59] | ncoredump: | and its just cause of this damn scanning bullshit |
| [02:22:11] | ** LLyric lafs ** | |
| [02:22:15] | LLyric: | hardware mpeg rules |
| [02:22:45] | Gogga: | grrrh =( |
| [02:23:23] | LLyric: | most of the cpu is used to play the video, pvr-350 sucks for non-native recordings |
| [02:27:19] | Netslayer: | i can't believe it takes me like 90% cpu of a 3200 amd64 to playback hdtv |
| [02:27:55] | LLyric: | Yeah, a bit of a disincentive, eh> |
| [02:28:04] | Netslayer: | does anyone know how to get the ac3 pass through working? when i checkmark it in mythtv my reciever gets this distorted high pitch sound |
| [02:28:20] | Netslayer: | ya i had to kill it recording in analog cause it was choppy in playback heh |
| [02:28:55] | Netslayer: | in a perfect world my firewire would be allowed to record all the 10 year old star trek episodes without them thinking i'll somehow pirate them |
| [02:29:16] | LLyric: | and the content you download off the net would work well, too? :) |
| [02:29:28] | Netslayer: | heh ya |
| [02:29:47] | Netslayer: | i opened up the fcc mandate here..waiting for adelphia to call me back |
| [02:29:48] | ** LLyric skips over adds, yay! ** | |
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| [02:46:21] | Netslayer: | the lady agreed that i should file an fcc complaint |
| [02:46:24] | Netslayer: | how sad.. |
| [02:50:27] | ncoredump: | so in honesty |
| [02:50:34] | ncoredump: | you dont have a awnser |
| [02:50:40] | ncoredump: | it just broken |
| [02:50:46] | ncoredump: | ;/ |
| [02:52:06] | ncoredump: | you can see that from a slightest of googling.. and its a big let down ... fix it up or atleast look into it for us ukers how about not making the uk look like some kind of wack after thought in mythtv fullstop |
| [02:52:23] | Netslayer: | they don't have it working yet apparently or something on this hd box |
| [03:02:33] | hd420: | anyone use ivtv-0.4.0 with ubuntu breezy? |
| [03:02:48] | ** hd420 wonders if he should just rebuild his kernel ** | |
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| [03:07:35] | ncd2: | Yoooo!!!! |
| [03:07:40] | ncd2: | i sused it |
| [03:08:24] | ncd2: | and im sorry for being mad at you cause it was really user error, but i can imagine bundles of people will do the same as me |
| [03:08:27] | ncd2: | lol |
| [03:08:49] | Netslayer: | sused? |
| [03:11:47] | ncd2: | in /usr/doc/dvb-utils/ there are gzip's, examples of the channles.conf files and i was trying to run scan on that once i had ungz'd it heh not really paying attnetion to the file you know tierd eyes and all WTF BLEEEDING I TELL YOU!!..... theres a few people on google who have done the same ..heheh theres only one way i can see to create the error |
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| [03:13:12] | ncd2: | so i should beable to pump mythtv my generated channels.conf hopefully now |
| [03:19:52] | cliffd: | when the frontend and backend are talked about do the front end have any cards at all? the video card for tv out? or is EVERYTHING done on the backend and front end just hold the dvd player and remote IR sensor? |
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| [03:22:45] | Netslayer: | fronted plays back videos, dvds, etc. master backend does scheduling, and recording if card(s) attached, slave backends do recording if card(s) attached |
| [03:24:11] | cliffd: | Netslayer: so my GeForce 6600 video card would go in the frontend? |
| [03:24:45] | cliffd: | to do the mpeg decoding and play back |
| [03:24:55] | cliffd: | no way to have the front end just be dvd and remote control? |
| [03:25:07] | cliffd: | say if I had 12 foot svideo cable? |
| [03:26:24] | Netslayer: | can you describe what you want in a little more detail? |
| [03:26:43] | Netslayer: | the box that you have the video card to output to your TV needs to run the frontend |
| [03:27:21] | Netslayer: | any box given enough power should have the backend.. and can be the same as the one that has the frontend |
| [03:28:41] | cliffd: | Netslayer: sorry for not being clear. I would like to put the tunner card and tv out/video card in the backend and have the frontend just be for the dvd player and remote control, but based on what you said above that is not possible. |
| [03:29:05] | ncd2: | WHooooohooo |
| [03:29:10] | ncd2: | atlast |
| [03:29:17] | ncd2: | the desert ends |
| [03:30:01] | ** ncd2 sais is a alf fisher voice that flamin good stuff chaps ** | |
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| [03:31:39] | Netslayer: | cliffd, you have one or two boxes? |
| [03:32:09] | cliffd: | I have one now a large fileserver with lots of physical space and muscle |
| [03:32:17] | cliffd: | im trying to figure out what to buy for the frontend |
| [03:32:22] | Netslayer: | ya if you want to keep tuner and video out card (to watch tv) in the same box you will have to run frontend and backend |
| [03:32:25] | cliffd: | so in the end I would have 2. |
| [03:33:07] | cliffd: | but that would have to be the box that handles the remote control as well right? no way to make the frontend not have the tv out |
| [03:33:09] | cliffd: | ? |
| [03:33:31] | Netslayer: | frontend = tv out |
| [03:33:49] | Netslayer: | the mythfrontend is the program that runs in X11 to visually work it (GUI) |
| [03:34:29] | cliffd: | ah. |
| [03:35:34] | cliffd: | that explains away my question. thanks for dealing with a dumbass. |
| [03:36:51] | cliffd: | ive been looking for about 3 days and still cant figure out what to get... tough decisions |
| [03:39:03] | hd420: | anyone use ivtv-0.4.0 with ubuntu breezy? |
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| [03:44:56] | ncd2: | I here by decree usb should be known as universaly sub standard bus forever |
| [03:45:35] | ncd2: | jk |
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| [03:51:12] | cliffd: | http://www.dvb.org/graphics/internal/Adoption-Map_DVB-T.jpg kind of neat! |
| [03:54:30] | johntramp: | there is also http://www.dvb.org/graphics/internal/Adoption . . . April_20.jpg |
| [03:54:37] | johntramp: | http://www.dvb.org/graphics/internal/Adoption . . . April_20.jpg |
| [03:56:40] | cliffd: | Japan is an isolated island still. I wonder there there service is really good like there cell service |
| [03:58:15] | Netslayer: | what does it mean when my dvdrip says "No Jobs. Checking and/or waiting for DVD" |
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| [03:58:58] | banyan: | avidemux2 — to create a dvd format file is it better to save as mpeg ps or mpeg ts? |
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| [04:01:08] | banyan: | anybody knowhatimean? |
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| [04:55:49] | baumer: | any suggestions on building debs for my ubuntu frontend to connect to my fc4 backend using the atrpms packages? |
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| [05:41:15] | Traxtopel: | baumer, just use the debs for ubuntu |
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| [06:09:54] | cliffd: | does this mean I cant use the dvi and convert it to component out? |
| [06:09:55] | cliffd: | Integrated GeForce 6 GPU |
| [06:09:55] | cliffd: | High Definition Video Processing, max. resolution 1920 x 1440 for RGB display |
| [06:09:55] | cliffd: | Dual VGA output: DVI-D and RGB (*DVI-D can not be converted to output RGB signal to CRT.) |
| [06:10:05] | cliffd: | on board video card. |
| [06:25:50] | hd420: | ok... what is this certificate code that zap2it requires? |
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| [06:33:58] | Anduin: | hd420: Look at one of the better howtos. |
| [06:36:43] | cliffd: | gulp, I just hit the submit button for the pvr purchase :) |
| [06:36:47] | cliffd: | thanks for the help all |
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| [06:38:59] | hd420: | Anduin: hehe... figured it out |
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| [06:41:47] | Lycan^: | is anyone using a dvico dvb-t plus tuner here? |
| [06:46:00] | Lycan^: | ?? |
| [06:46:07] | hd420: | no input connections? wtf? |
| [06:55:38] | ShockValue: | nvidia 6200 any good? i have an offer to trade one for my old pocketpv |
| [06:55:39] | ShockValue: | pc |
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| [07:00:42] | Lycan^: | im using a 6200...does the job |
| [07:01:11] | kameron: | anyone know of a way to configure the bttv driver? |
| [07:01:17] | ShockValue: | i just found the specs on this card.. it will only do 1600x1200 out the DVI.. I want something that will do 1080i |
| [07:02:25] | hd420: | I've gone through mythtv-setup, now i don't see how to exit it :( |
| [07:03:02] | kameron: | hd420: hit escape a bunch perhaps? |
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| [07:26:33] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue: hey |
| [07:27:04] | SlicerDicer-: | 1080i is not ass hard as you think |
| [07:29:37] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121185 eh? |
| [07:29:39] | SlicerDicer-: | that work? |
| [07:29:43] | SlicerDicer-: | aint that costly either |
| [07:30:12] | SlicerDicer-: | passive heatsink too |
| [07:30:18] | SlicerDicer-: | coolfactor++ |
| [07:30:58] | SlicerDicer-: | that should also do XvMC no? |
| [07:31:04] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: would it? |
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| [07:44:45] | danst: | hi i just installed mythtv (0.18.1) on gentoo. now mythsetup is complaining that the mythconverg.keybindings table is missing (and indeed it is). Did anyone experience this before? |
| [07:45:53] | danst: | mythconverg.settings is missing as well... |
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| [10:07:40] | lloyd: | I am having trouble compileing mtyhtv v0,19 |
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| [10:10:05] | lloyd: | is there someone here awake? who has compiled mythtv 0.19 on 2.6 kernel? |
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| [10:27:06] | Juski: | never mind, o impatient one |
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| [10:28:05] | Juski: | the only time I've ever had bother compiling mythtv is when I didn't have all the dependencies – and I think that'd be the case for 90% of people |
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| [10:31:42] | ncd2: | Juski |
| [10:31:56] | ncd2: | getting the shit to work properly under debian is a big fat pain in the nut |
| [10:32:04] | ncd2: | it over derived on fucking perl |
| [10:32:04] | Juski: | lol |
| [10:32:14] | ncd2: | and other bullshit |
| [10:32:16] | Juski: | mythtv isn't |
| [10:32:27] | ncd2: | and thats with a state of the art package management system |
| [10:32:41] | Juski: | mythvideo is, but if you use cpan it won't take long to get all the things you need. chill out |
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| [10:34:22] | Juski: | it'd be easy for someone to put that right, if only they could be bothered :-P |
| [10:34:40] | Juski: | the major unlisted dependency for mythtv is... |
| [10:34:50] | Juski: | the ability to think for yourself & research |
| [10:38:01] | dorel_: | my lirc_i2c module fails to build... anyone else? (im on 2.6.16–486) |
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| [10:44:56] | UBL: | fails to build how? |
| [10:46:45] | ncd2: | meh Juski i came all the way to get it to work |
| [10:46:59] | ncd2: | only to get let down by usb stability anyway |
| [10:47:38] | ncd2: | well i say that |
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| [10:47:55] | ncd2: | but Kafine can run the usb device with out seging shit out |
| [10:51:13] | dorel_: | UBL: it errors out |
| [10:51:28] | dorel_: | UBL: /opt/lirc-0.8.0/drivers/lirc_i2c/lirc_i2c.c:363: error: unknown field ‘name’ specified in initializer |
| [10:51:43] | dorel_: | UBL: /opt/lirc-0.8.0/drivers/lirc_i2c/lirc_i2c.c:364: error: ‘I2C_DRIVERID_EXP3’ undeclared here (not in a function) |
| [10:51:48] | dorel_: | UBL: etc... any ideas? |
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| [10:52:27] | Mr_Fin: | hello all |
| [10:53:00] | Mr_Fin: | getting the pvr 150 to work is one pain in the fucking arse...grrr |
| [10:53:48] | Mr_Fin: | spent all day yesterday till 4 am this morning trying to get pvr working |
| [10:54:55] | dorel_: | Mr_Fin: what is the problem? |
| [10:58:03] | Mr_Fin: | i followed mythoglt (jarods |
| [10:58:32] | ** ncd2 slaps Mr_Fin on the back welcome to the club baby ** | |
| [10:58:44] | UBL: | sorry, i have no idea what that error msg is |
| [10:59:22] | Mr_Fin: | when i run mplayer all i get is grey box |
| [10:59:56] | Mr_Fin: | For ivtv-based cards (PVR-150/250/350/500, M179, MPG600, etc): this is where i got stuck on jarods |
| [11:00:41] | Mr_Fin: | everything else runs fine.. when i got mythtv running backends etc runs fine but watch tv does not work .. so i know its a pvr problem |
| [11:00:57] | Mr_Fin: | i have a wintv pvr 150 |
| [11:00:58] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dorel_: I'm pretty sure that's a generic incompatibility with 2.6.16..try the svn version of lirc-0.8.0 |
| [11:01:08] | ncd2: | what does the backend.log say? |
| [11:01:26] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dorel_: or cvs rather |
| [11:01:44] | Mr_Fin: | ncd2 are u talking to me? |
| [11:02:06] | ncd2: | yeah |
| [11:02:25] | Mr_Fin: | dont know as i am not on the mythbox ... grr |
| [11:02:46] | ncd2: | ssh in and "tail" it like collumbo |
| [11:03:32] | Mr_Fin: | hmm i need to think what else can i do what guide might be the easiest.. geared to uk i hope |
| [11:04:08] | Mr_Fin: | i should get back to you when i am on mythtv box really |
| [11:04:29] | Mr_Fin: | any gotchas on pvr's i need to look out for? |
| [11:04:44] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dorel_: alternatively you could try just removing the two lines it complains about..worked for me with the atiusb driver =P |
| [11:05:03] | Mr_Fin: | also anyone got a link of step by step on pvr with sky tv? |
| [11:09:59] | Mr_Fin: | right i wil be back later.. not giving up hope yet... misus saying told you to get a sky+ box grrr |
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| [11:10:31] | _dante: | hello? |
| [11:10:55] | _dante: | I'm trying to configure my mythtv |
| [11:11:21] | _dante: | it says "can't find database" and there's a line to enter the name of the database |
| [11:11:24] | _dante: | my question is |
| [11:11:38] | _dante: | what is that database? where can I find out how it is called? |
| [11:11:42] | dorel_: | RaYmAn-Bx: what do you mean? how do i do that? |
| [11:12:18] | _dante: | no, I know about entering letters into an empty line ;) but I don't know what is meant with that "database" |
| [11:12:45] | UBL: | mysql database |
| [11:13:13] | UBL: | database you made (or was suppose to make) |
| [11:13:34] | _dante: | ok |
| [11:13:39] | _dante: | my sql is installed |
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| [11:14:11] | _dante: | so |
| [11:14:18] | _dante: | where can I look up where that database is? |
| [11:14:39] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dorel_: just open up the file /opt/lirc-0.8.0/drivers/lirc_i2c/lirc_i2c.c and remove lines 363 and 364 |
| [11:14:39] | _dante: | configuring mysql package I only had to enter a password for the database, not any name |
| [11:14:48] | UBL: | instructions for it is here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| [11:15:09] | _dante: | aah |
| [11:15:16] | _dante: | and then simply enter the database name right |
| [11:15:22] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dorel_: it might not work, but if not then try and grab a cvs snapshot from lirc.org |
| [11:15:49] | _dante: | thx ubl, givin' it a try |
| [11:18:23] | Hoxzer: | ow do I start mythbackend without running it in terminal? |
| [11:18:36] | dorel_: | RaYmAn-Bx: i tried // commenting those lines, doesnt work. i also downloaded the latest snapshot (pre4). i can try the cvs but i doubt its fixed there |
| [11:18:53] | Hoxzer: | found it out |
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| [11:19:58] | dorel_: | RaYmAn-Bx: ok wait, commenting it out works, its compiling. |
| [11:20:00] | _dante: | ok I tried what was there, but I dunno if there's any database set up by the mythtv-database package yet |
| [11:20:16] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dorel_: possibly not..are there other errors when you comment them out or does it simply not work? the name: thing has been removed completely in 2.6.16..the id: is still there, but the I2C_DRIVERID_EXP3 is an experiemental id which was also removed.. |
| [11:20:24] | _dante: | i have installed mythtv-database but it says "half-configured |
| [11:20:25] | _dante: | " |
| [11:20:40] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dorel_: you might want to set the id to I2C_DRIVERID_INFRARED ..I2C InfraRed on Video Boards sounds about right doesn't it? |
| [11:25:25] | _dante: | ok I want to set up the mysql database or/and find out where it could already be. system is debian sarge 3.1 |
| [11:25:37] | _dante: | anyone willing to help? |
| [11:27:28] | _dante: | I am in the right channel because I need this to set up mythtv-database |
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| [11:34:18] | allmanj: | hey – i know this is stupid, but how do i actually edit a recording? I've got the editing screen to come up and have marked the ads by doing "delete after this frame" and "delete before this frame". But, though it's marked red, i don't see a way to actually get rid of it... |
| [11:36:35] | _dante: | i would help ya – but nobody seems to be able to tell me how to set up the database for mythtv-database package... sorry |
| [11:36:49] | _dante: | i won't get it working if I can't figure out that |
| [11:38:23] | allmanj: | sorry _dante – i used knoppmyth. That was all taken care of for me by the installer |
| [11:38:37] | UBL: | allmanj, press "e" while watching to edit , and "z" to load auto-detected commercials |
| [11:38:53] | allmanj: | UBL: no keyboard. I'm using the remote only |
| [11:38:56] | UBL: | and in settings somewhere, set to auto skip maked commercials |
| [11:39:17] | _dante: | knoppmyth? |
| [11:39:23] | UBL: | you bind a key to m on your remote? |
| [11:39:24] | _dante: | wtf? |
| [11:39:55] | allmanj: | _dante: http://mysettopbox.tv/ distro specifically designed for mythtv. Based on knoppix |
| [11:40:05] | UBL: | commercials arent actually removed or deleted, they are just skipped/fast forwarded |
| [11:41:04] | UBL: | _dante, did you look at that link i pasted above? |
| [11:41:22] | allmanj: | UBL: i'll look for the skip setting. But i thought there was a way to actually edit recording to trim out ads or any crap before or after the program? |
| [11:42:14] | UBL: | you can with a program called nuvexport |
| [11:42:31] | UBL: | but in mythtv, the commercials are just skipped over |
| [11:43:01] | _dante: | ubl – uhm, yeah, well thankx |
| [11:43:18] | allmanj: | UBL: So when you mark something to be cut, it does nothing unless you tell it to auto-skip? |
| [11:43:28] | UBL: | allmanj, yea |
| [11:43:52] | allmanj: | UBL: that seems really odd. Even if you tell it to transcode the video? |
| [11:43:54] | UBL: | _dante, if you didnt look at the link, its basically this: "mysql < mc.sql" |
| [11:44:13] | UBL: | allmanj, yea |
| [11:44:34] | _dante: | well |
| [11:44:42] | _dante: | _UBL: that don't work |
| [11:44:44] | UBL: | it doesnt delete them cause auto-detect commercial breaks isnt allways 100% |
| [11:44:45] | _dante: | gives me an error |
| [11:45:11] | UBL: | what error? |
| [11:45:17] | allmanj: | UBL: sure, but using the editor, i would have thought there was a way to manually edit the video files. I assumed that's what it was for? |
| [11:45:37] | _dante: | _UBL file or directory not found |
| [11:45:48] | _dante: | _UBL but there's something more interesting, look: |
| [11:46:07] | UBL: | is mc.sql in the current dir you are typing the command in? |
| [11:46:29] | _dante: | _UBL mythtv-backend, that package, wants to set up the database for mythtv, but it can't because it uses the wrong password |
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| [11:47:01] | UBL: | i dont know about debian packages, sorry. i built mythtv from source |
| [11:47:32] | _dante: | _UBL well than back to your way: where do I have do go (which directory) to set up the database? |
| [11:47:36] | RaYmAn-Bx: | _dante: this page seems to mention that you need a blank root password on mysql for it to work: http://www.mattmarsh.net/computing/pundit/mythtv.shtml |
| [11:48:01] | _dante: | well, so I do need to reinstall *what* to change the mysql password? |
| [11:48:07] | Juski: | allmanj: when you edit recordings with cutpoints from commflagging or manual editing, they can be trimmed as part of the export/transcode process. I edit shows & use lossless mpeg2 transcoding |
| [11:48:26] | RaYmAn-Bx: | _dante: look at the mysql documentation. |
| [11:48:32] | allmanj: | Juski: so you have to transcode to get rid of your cut points? |
| [11:48:41] | Juski: | _dante: if you cant remember your mysql password, google for 'lost mysql password' |
| [11:48:54] | UBL: | mc.sql file is with the source to mythtv |
| [11:49:04] | Juski: | allmanj: yes, otherwise myth will just skip them or notify you of them (or do nothing) |
| [11:49:09] | allmanj: | _dante: For root, it's probably blank. it's blank by default |
| [11:49:24] | _dante: | _allmanj well i changed it to mysql |
| [11:49:30] | _dante: | how can I change it again? |
| [11:49:30] | allmanj: | Juski: sounds good – i'll look at it. Thanks |
| [11:49:33] | _dante: | I don know it |
| [11:49:47] | Juski: | _dante: look at the mysql documentation |
| [11:49:54] | ncd2: | dammmn |
| [11:49:57] | _dante: | thx |
| [11:49:58] | Juski: | I can see now why the devs are considering moving away from mysql |
| [11:49:59] | ncd2: | this is getting absurd |
| [11:50:09] | RaYmAn-Bx: | _dante: you could bother to google. "mysql password change" gives tons of results |
| [11:50:09] | _dante: | sorry ncd2 |
| [11:50:19] | ncd2: | THe backend falls down more times then a broolyn hore's draws |
| [11:50:28] | _dante: | yea well – sorry for acting dumbass-ish |
| [11:50:40] | _dante: | i guess i'm better leavin... |
| [11:50:41] | _dante: | ca |
| [11:50:42] | _dante: | cya |
| [11:50:46] | _dante: | thx anyway people |
| [11:50:48] | allmanj: | Juski: they are? To postgres? I would have expected better performance from mysql – lower overhead |
| [11:50:49] | _dante: | you've been help to me |
| [11:50:55] | Juski: | run mythbackend in a terminal window |
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| [11:51:25] | Juski: | allmanj: no – it'll be more of a thing where stuff is stored in files |
| [11:51:40] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sqlite? |
| [11:51:52] | Juski: | nope |
| [11:51:57] | Zider: | oh, I can get rid of mysql then? nice :) |
| [11:52:09] | ncd2: | strange |
| [11:52:11] | allmanj: | Juski: seems like a lot more work than using a database. They'd have to write a lot of code. Would have though even sqlite would be better |
| [11:52:19] | Juski: | "Abstract the SQL database somehow?" |
| [11:52:21] | ncd2: | are the init scripts bashed on debian or something |
| [11:53:29] | Juski: | anyway, more people should know about mythdora. knoppmyth isn't for everyone, and not everybody can be bothered with getting to know all the know-how |
| [11:54:32] | allmanj: | Juski: never heard of mythdora... |
| [11:54:49] | Juski: | it's not as hard as a lot of people make out, and loads of folks should get less petulent when things don't 'just work'. fucking ignorance does people no favours |
| [11:55:16] | Juski: | allmanj: google it ;-) |
| [11:58:16] | allmanj: | Juski: Will do. You recommend it over knoppmyth? |
| [12:00:04] | allmanj: | The audio seems quiet when i'm watching tv. Is there some way to boost it? alsa volume control has it way up already |
| [12:02:43] | UBL: | try f10 or f11 |
| [12:02:57] | allmanj: | UBL: No keyboard |
| [12:03:19] | allmanj: | UBL: i can ssh into the machine though |
| [12:03:22] | UBL: | so make a key on yoru remote for f11 and f10 |
| [12:03:45] | allmanj: | UBL: if that's the volume up and volume down, i have that to 100% already |
| [12:04:07] | ncd2: | wow |
| [12:04:14] | ncd2: | this is the most stable i managed to get it lads |
| [12:04:28] | ncd2: | now that approximates a working condition :) |
| [12:05:25] | ** ncd2 can change channels and stuff with out incuring the wrath of general failure and his gang ** | |
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| [12:09:27] | allmanj: | This seems to have helped: ivtvctl -y volume=65535 |
| [12:09:31] | allmanj: | on a pvr350 |
| [12:11:01] | ncd2: | would have a higher desktop resolution under X help with picture sharpness? |
| [12:11:03] | ncd2: | having*I |
| [12:13:04] | allmanj: | Aha! it appears to be sending the audio through the pvr350 now. i need it to put the audio out through the speakers |
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| [12:15:44] | ncd2: | eerr |
| [12:15:50] | ncd2: | how do i quit tv mode |
| [12:17:35] | allmanj: | ncd2: try esc or the stop or back buttons on your remote |
| [12:18:03] | ncd2: | esc quits all together |
| [12:18:10] | ncd2: | remote == false |
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| [12:19:08] | Zider: | are any of the pci-express tv-cards supported by linux? |
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| [12:22:09] | corpix: | hi |
| [12:22:28] | corpix: | my myth seems to have forgotten all recoding plans |
| [12:22:40] | corpix: | how could this have happened ? |
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| [12:45:55] | ncd2: | corpix had a power failure? |
| [12:46:01] | corpix: | no |
| [12:46:14] | corpix: | btw, just ran mysqlcheck, all "OK" |
| [12:46:55] | corpix: | hmm, i can't even _plan_ a new recording |
| [12:47:05] | corpix: | without any error |
| [12:47:16] | corpix: | argh |
| [12:48:18] | ncd2: | have to tryed to run the backend in a terminal window and watch them whole party |
| [12:48:32] | corpix: | i can do so, sec |
| [12:49:05] | corpix: | 2006-04–23 14:49:14.423 DVB#0 Opening DVB channel |
| [12:49:05] | corpix: | 2006-04–23 14:49:14.423 DVB#0 ERROR – Opening DVB frontend device failed. |
| [12:49:05] | corpix: | (13) Permission denied |
| [12:49:07] | corpix: | hmm |
| [12:49:34] | ncd2: | any recompiles recently? |
| [12:49:45] | corpix: | no |
| [12:49:46] | ncd2: | of kernel.. |
| [12:49:48] | corpix: | no |
| [12:50:16] | ncd2: | well pump it into google |
| [12:50:49] | ncd2: | cat $anomily < $gooogle |
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| [12:51:31] | corpix: | hmm, nothing |
| [12:51:42] | ** ncd2 hears deep puring in the distance ** | |
| [12:51:50] | corpix: | hmm, i try it the windows way, reboot the backend |
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| [12:54:56] | corpix: | hmm, rebooting did it |
| [12:54:59] | corpix: | weird |
| [12:55:16] | ncd2: | hey every thing need a power cycle now and again ;) |
| [12:59:34] | corpix: | but that destroyed my 140 days uptime ! |
| [12:59:35] | corpix: | ;) |
| [12:59:56] | scopeuk: | hmm /me has an idea uptime rpg ;-) |
| [13:04:04] | ncd2: | doh |
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| [13:15:16] | ncd2: | why cant i get into the main Section of the mythfrontend |
| [13:15:31] | ncd2: | where "TV" "MUSIC" "GAMES" and stuff is |
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| [13:17:34] | corpix: | i have that if opengl is disabled |
| [13:17:41] | corpix: | glxgears works ? |
| [13:18:40] | ncd2: | ah i figured it, it was using a theme style called "DVR" |
| [13:18:56] | ncd2: | i gues it emphasizes on pvr'y stuff only |
| [13:18:59] | corpix: | oh, ok, thats what i am using |
| [13:19:25] | corpix: | btw, a enabled opengl mythtv should check for opengl before starting |
| [13:19:44] | corpix: | otherwise, you're in an unusable menu |
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| [13:23:48] | rawdlite: | defi_: you got any luck with ivtv ? |
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| [13:35:13] | ncd2: | autoexpire is going wrong as well |
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| [13:35:26] | ncd2: | trying to remote files what dont exsit |
| [13:35:56] | ncd2: | hehheh expirie code having problmes with expiring itself |
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| [13:55:42] | defi_: | when you defin input connections ion myth-setup do you have to have a seperate video source for each card? |
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| [14:22:17] | ncd2: | hmm do you guys think i can get the DVB remote to work under this adstech usb2 business? |
| [14:22:51] | ncd2: | the driver finds the ir reciever |
| [14:23:06] | ncd2: | i just dont know how to use it with lirc |
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| [14:25:55] | ncd2: | its registered it as "/class/input/input5" |
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| [14:44:22] | Coume: | re |
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| [15:00:51] | Juski: | re (tiling break) |
| [15:03:19] | Juski: | how's it going Coume? |
| [15:03:21] | ivor: | Juski: lol. I'm terrible at tiling. |
| [15:03:41] | Juski: | lol ivor |
| [15:09:04] | Coume: | Juski, not too bad cleaning the house :) will you have finish by tonight? |
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| [15:26:40] | mchou: | anyone remember the "default" directory myth uses to store recordings? |
| [15:27:11] | GreyFoxx: | /mnt/store |
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| [15:28:23] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: you sure about that? music/video was in /var/lib/mythmusic, /var/lib/mythvideo, etc. |
| [15:28:38] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure |
| [15:33:45] | GreyFoxx: | mythmusic defaults to /mnt/store/music, mythvideo defaults to /share/Movies/dvd |
| [15:33:56] | Weezey: | http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/georgie.htm |
| [15:34:50] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: weird. that's not what I see here, and I'm pretty certain I didnt change them. |
| [15:35:04] | GreyFoxx: | I'm looking at thesource, so I'm sure :) |
| [15:35:21] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: which file is that in? |
| [15:35:47] | GreyFoxx: | which one? All 3 settings arein different locations |
| [15:36:10] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: gimme all 3 pls if they are handy :) |
| [15:36:26] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: otherwise just give me 1. |
| [15:37:30] | GreyFoxx: | mythplugins/mythvideo/mythvideo/globalsettings.cpp:VideoStartupDirectory |
| [15:37:49] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: thx dude |
| [15:37:49] | GreyFoxx: | mythplugins/mythmusic/mythmusic/globalsettings.cpp:SetMusicDirectory |
| [15:39:05] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv/setup/backendsettings.cpp:RecordFilePrefix |
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| [15:46:01] | AngryElf: | hey all, when i try to test out my hd card using 'getatsc -dvb 0 7 > test.ts' the file test.ts is 0 bytes...i'm not sure what to check on, any ideas? |
| [15:47:26] | mchou: | AngryElf: what atsc card is this? |
| [15:47:30] | AngryElf: | hd3000 |
| [15:47:44] | mchou: | AngryElf: I dont have that one, sorry |
| [15:48:02] | mchou: | AngryElf: check sig strength and all that jazz? |
| [15:48:16] | AngryElf: | i'm not even sure if the drivers are loaded right |
| [15:48:21] | mchou: | lol |
| [15:48:40] | mchou: | check sig strength first then :) |
| [15:49:38] | Zider: | is anyone else here using mythstream and having problems with mplayer running out of cache all the time? |
| [15:50:30] | AngryElf: | dtvsignal keeps saying: failed to open dvr0, even tho it exists |
| [15:51:02] | mchou: | AngryElf: I'd say that's a clue |
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| [15:54:35] | bulio|: | I need a TV Tuner card to be able to play videos from my PC to the tv, right? |
| [15:55:28] | mchou: | anyone know if 1394b is backwards compatible 1394a? |
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| [15:56:09] | Zider: | bulio|: no |
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| [16:05:07] | mchou: | I wonder if unionfs is good enough for production use |
| [16:07:31] | Zider: | never heard of it.. |
| [16:07:45] | mchou: | Zider: you just did |
| [16:07:49] | mchou: | :) |
| [16:07:55] | Zider: | ..before.. :P |
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| [16:14:27] | AngryElf: | mchou, i had a crappy experience with unionfs |
| [16:15:08] | AngryElf: | it never ending up writing files across more than one HD even if they were part of the same unionfs |
| [16:15:16] | AngryElf: | LVM works much better |
| [16:18:03] | ** ivor blinks as his son announces that he's got to wash his hands before he touches anything. ** | |
| [16:20:00] | mchou: | AngryElf: huh?? |
| [16:22:22] | AngryElf: | huh what |
| [16:26:26] | mchou: | unionfs cant write files across more than one HD, what exactly does that mean? |
| [16:27:05] | mchou: | unionfs is supposed to merge multiple branches under one namespace. |
| [16:27:45] | mchou: | it doesnt really do disk spanning, a la lvm. |
| [16:29:01] | AngryElf: | maybe i understood it wrong, i was told it was suppose to do that |
| [16:29:36] | mchou: | if you're saying /mnt/unionfs includes /mnt/hdc & /mnt/hdd, and wasn't able to write anything on the /mnt/hdd branch, that's rather incredible |
| [16:31:08] | AngryElf: | that is what i'm saying |
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| [16:31:36] | mchou: | lets say there is /mnt/hdd/test dir, are you saying touch /mnt/unionfs/test/mytest would fail? |
| [16:33:06] | AngryElf: | i had /mnt/unionfs set to include /mnt/hdc and /mnt/hdd |
| [16:33:14] | AngryElf: | hdc was nearly full and hdd was totally empty |
| [16:33:24] | mchou: | lol |
| [16:33:42] | mchou: | that's not what unionfs was designed for |
| [16:34:11] | AngryElf: | eh, oh well |
| [16:34:45] | mchou: | it merges directory branches in hdc and hdd |
| [16:35:24] | AngryElf: | well i'm not using it anymore :) |
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| [16:35:47] | mchou: | you cant just say "touch /mnt/unionfs/somerandomfile.mpg" and expect that to work |
| [16:36:36] | mchou: | however, you can say "touch /mnt/unionfs/existdir/somerandomfile.mpg", and that should work |
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| [16:38:06] | mchou: | existdir has to halready exist on either hdc or hdd |
| [16:38:15] | mchou: | already* |
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| [16:46:38] | gardengnome: | hi |
| [16:51:56] | gardengnome: | FYI: today is the 490th anniversary of the german beer purity law for beer. please celebrate accordingly. |
| [16:52:13] | Zider: | beer puberty..? |
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| [16:52:35] | gardengnome: | Zider: gee. ignoramus. |
| [16:52:55] | Zider: | ignowhat..? |
| [16:53:21] | gardengnome: | Zider: deutsches reinheitsgebot, schonmal gehört? |
| [16:53:33] | gardengnome: | Zider: heute, tag des deutschen bieres. 490 jahre reinheitsgebot. |
| [16:53:42] | Zider: | gardengnome: what the heck are you saying..? |
| [16:54:13] | Zider: | I didn't understand a single word there |
| [16:54:15] | gardengnome: | Zider: well, why the hell is your ircname "Der Doktor" when you don't speak german? |
| [16:54:40] | Zider: | gardengnome: why is your nick gardengnome when you're probably human? ;) |
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| [16:55:03] | gardengnome: | german purity law: all you put in beer is malt, hops and water. that's it. :) |
| [16:55:15] | Zider: | well, I never drink beer anyways |
| [16:55:19] | gardengnome: | Zider: well, why is your nick Zider if you don't know anything about beverages? ;) |
| [16:55:31] | Zider: | gardengnome: I know about beverages, just not beer |
| [16:55:51] | ** gardengnome shakes head ** | |
| [16:55:58] | Zider: | beer is imo disgusting |
| [16:56:23] | gardengnome: | where are you from? the US? |
| [16:56:28] | Zider: | sweden |
| [16:56:46] | gardengnome: | oh. well. you probably didn't try the right beer then :) |
| [16:57:20] | Zider: | I don't think there is any "right" beer.. I'll just stick to whisky, rum and drinks.. :P |
| [16:57:29] | gardengnome: | Zider: whatever works for you :) |
| [16:57:42] | Zider: | preciselimento |
| [16:57:57] | gardengnome: | (an 'ignoramus' is a person who's being ignorant about something, BTW) |
| [16:58:06] | Zider: | ah |
| [16:58:26] | Zider: | I was thinking about hippopotamus, but I was way wrong then ;D |
| [17:00:50] | gardengnome: | yeah, not quite.. ;) |
| [17:01:20] | Zider: | I'm hip tho.. just not a hippo.. :P |
| [17:01:45] | gardengnome: | argh |
| [17:01:53] | gardengnome: | that was a bad pun. ;) |
| [17:02:42] | Zider: | I know, I rock at bad puns. :D |
| [17:03:02] | Zider: | I make good buns tho |
| [17:03:40] | AngryElf: | hey all, when trying to compile dvb-apps i get error: usb.h, no such file or directory |
| [17:03:46] | cout_: | is it possible to rebuild the list of games for mythgames without the gui? mythfrontend seems to segfault whenever I go into setup for games. |
| [17:03:52] | gardengnome: | Zider: hehe ;) |
| [17:04:08] | AngryElf: | i've got a usb.h in /usr/linux/lib and i've tried linking it up, but i think it's not the same usb.h that dvb-apps is looking for |
| [17:10:22] | AngryElf: | is it possible that there is absolutely zero HD signal if i'm less than 10 miles from the stations? |
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| [17:14:18] | hashbang_: | gardengnome: I might well pull a Löwenbräu out of the fridge later... |
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| [17:14:44] | rvalente: | hello all |
| [17:14:55] | rvalente: | im trying to get mythtv-setup to connect to mysql but its failing |
| [17:15:43] | AngryElf: | rvalente, what's the error |
| [17:16:37] | rvalente: | when i type mythtv-setup i get a huge scrolling of just errors then the GUI starts up i go to click the 2nd next and it drops back to cmd line and says error connecting to mysql |
| [17:16:48] | rvalente: | i compiled with with mysql use flags |
| [17:17:29] | rvalente: | im compiling mysql 5 and myth 0.19 now |
| [17:18:52] | rvalente: | AngryElf: any ideas |
| [17:19:18] | AngryElf: | it sounds like it's a permission issue on your database |
| [17:19:34] | AngryElf: | but i couldn't say since you didn't tell me what error you got |
| [17:19:34] | rvalente: | which is funny because i ran emerge --config mysql |
| [17:19:47] | gardengnome: | hashbang_: hell, yeah :) |
| [17:19:49] | rvalente: | once its done compiling i will post the error |
| [17:20:55] | Juski: | uhhhhhh... so tired |
| [17:21:51] | Juski: | also glad I don't do this shit for a living |
| [17:21:54] | Juski: | :) |
| [17:22:03] | gardengnome: | hi Juski :) |
| [17:22:06] | hashbang_: | gardengnome: it's the only German beer I have handy. :-) |
| [17:22:14] | Juski: | hey gardengnome |
| [17:22:25] | rvalente: | i got lirc working so far :) |
| [17:22:37] | rvalente: | while im waiting for the compile is there support for the evga nvtv card? |
| [17:22:40] | gardengnome: | hashbang_: well, at least it's german :) i don't have any good german beer here atm :/ |
| [17:22:44] | Juski: | I found something out today. only fools buy tiles smaller than 30cm square |
| [17:22:57] | gardengnome: | Juski: have a drink, today is the 490th anniversary of the german purity law :) |
| [17:23:26] | Juski: | I'll drink when we've tidied up |
| [17:23:50] | ** rvalente is already drinking :) ** | |
| [17:24:06] | hashbang_: | gardengnome: that said, I've had some nice Bavarian (?) Black Beer that doesn't qualify under German Beer Purity Laws... |
| [17:24:40] | hashbang_: | and my normal beers are english Ales. |
| [17:24:41] | gardengnome: | rvalente: that's normal, you're installing mythtv ;) |
| [17:25:07] | rvalente: | gardengnome: on gentoo never-the-less |
| [17:25:09] | rvalente: | lol |
| [17:25:19] | rvalente: | gardengnome: do you know if the nvtv is supported under linux? |
| [17:25:20] | gardengnome: | hashbang_: yeah, that happens. i'Ve read that lots of wheat beers don't comply with the original law. but well, they're good anyways :) |
| [17:25:21] | Zider: | rvalente: nice :) |
| [17:25:41] | rvalente: | *when* i get it working its going to be very nice |
| [17:25:44] | Juski: | while true do; emerge world; done |
| [17:25:50] | rvalente: | rofl |
| [17:25:51] | gardengnome: | rvalente: uh, i dunno what's hiding behind this nvidia windows marketing mumbo-jumbo. |
| [17:25:57] | Zider: | rvalente: indeed it will |
| [17:26:07] | rvalente: | Zider: what are the drivers then |
| [17:26:08] | rvalente: | ivtv? |
| [17:26:22] | Zider: | rvalente: no, I meant it will be very nice :P |
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| [17:28:40] | ** rvalente checks the nvidia site for binary drivers and cringes ** | |
| [17:30:33] | rvalente: | so i need to get a capture card now :-P |
| [17:30:44] | ** rvalente gives this one back to his friend down the hall ** | |
| [17:31:15] | Zider: | I need a capture card too :P |
| [17:31:28] | rvalente: | which ones have the best support? |
| [17:31:31] | rvalente: | hauppage? |
| [17:31:38] | rvalente: | with the amazing ivtv drivers |
| [17:31:52] | Zider: | I believe hauppauge is very well supported, yes |
| [17:32:08] | rvalente: | i can get the hauppage 150 for 67 bucks |
| [17:32:11] | rvalente: | which isnt that bad at all |
| [17:32:36] | gardengnome: | ivtv o/ |
| [17:32:44] | Zider: | yeah I've been looking at the 150 too |
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| [17:33:05] | Zider: | can't decide if I'm gonna get one with or without remote tho |
| [17:33:08] | rvalente: | gardengnome: what do u have against ivtv |
| [17:33:16] | rvalente: | get it /wo the remote |
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| [17:33:41] | Zider: | rvalente: yeah I probably will.. but then it's gonna cost extra to get the remote later,,. |
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| [17:33:45] | Zider: | ..or earlier.. : |
| [17:33:46] | Zider: | :P |
| [17:34:13] | gardengnome: | rvalente: o/ is some kind of "YAY!" smiley |
| [17:34:30] | rvalente: | oh :) |
| [17:34:36] | rvalente: | well portage has nvtv drivers so im going to test that |
| [17:34:46] | rvalente: | as i just realized |
| [17:35:02] | rvalente: | Zider: true but i dont like the remote that comes with it |
| [17:35:04] | Zider: | portage has it aaall ;) |
| [17:35:13] | rvalente: | the M$ one isnt that bad |
| [17:35:19] | rvalente: | with the USB receiver unit |
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| [17:35:36] | rvalente: | the lircd.conf didnt work for it BUT it was easy to program |
| [17:35:37] | Varanger: | hello |
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| [17:35:44] | Zider: | rvalente: well, that's not my "problem", mine is that I wanna use a programmable remote.. so all I want for the htpc is an IR interface.. |
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| [17:37:01] | Varanger: | I have installed mythtv for the first time and it says it can't connect to mysql |
| [17:37:38] | rvalente: | Varanger: ROFL thats what im getting too |
| [17:37:41] | rvalente: | what OS are you on |
| [17:38:14] | Varanger: | ROFL ? |
| [17:38:21] | Varanger: | rvalente: I am on Ubuntu |
| [17:39:07] | Varanger: | rvalente: http://pastebin.ca/50721 |
| [17:39:38] | AngryElf: | Varanger, apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev libqt3-mt-mysql |
| [17:40:08] | dWeeB: | anyone know if its possible to remove the watch tv and record tv setion of myth? |
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| [17:40:50] | Zider: | dWeeB: I think you can hack it away from the config file(s).. but why would you want that? |
| [17:40:54] | AngryElf: | dWeeB, try switching the menu type to DVR....i think it's in setup -> general, or setup -> appearance |
| [17:41:07] | dWeeB: | i am looking more to use is as just a media library in the living room |
| [17:41:47] | AngryElf: | well then that may not be what you're looking for |
| [17:42:03] | dWeeB: | yeah, not sure what else is around |
| [17:43:44] | dWeeB: | i just want something with a nice interface that will play all my movies (xvids and ogms) and my music library over the network in the living room |
| [17:43:54] | dWeeB: | oh and game emulation too |
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| [17:44:13] | dWeeB: | everything i have found has dvr tho |
| [17:44:33] | Varanger: | AngryELF: Do I really need the DEVs ? |
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| [17:48:27] | AngryElf: | i think so, i can't remember |
| [17:48:28] | dWeeB3: | anyone know any software like that? |
| [17:48:29] | AngryElf: | it can't hurt |
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| [17:50:26] | Varanger: | AngryELlf: I installed as you said and I am still having thesame problems |
| [17:50:39] | Merlin83b: | dWeeB3: A file manager and mplayer would do that. |
| [17:51:20] | dWeeB3: | i would like something with a nice interface that i can control with my remote too |
| [17:51:49] | AngryElf: | Varanger, have you set the permissions on the database correctly? |
| [17:52:56] | AngryElf: | Varanger, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [17:53:06] | Varanger: | AngryElf: I am usnig the frontend/backend in the same machine |
| [17:53:29] | Varanger: | And the database is working well for my sandbox LAMP applications |
| [17:53:56] | AngryElf: | what happens if you: mysql -u mythtv mythconverg |
| [17:53:56] | AngryElf: | ? |
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| [17:54:36] | rvalente: | just use the root user |
| [17:54:39] | rvalente: | to test |
| [17:55:08] | Varanger: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: NO) |
| [17:55:15] | AngryElf: | myth's default values are user: mythtv he shoudl probably be testing with that |
| [17:55:16] | Varanger: | AngryElf: That happen |
| [17:55:25] | rvalente: | test root user |
| [17:55:25] | AngryElf: | Varanger, mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [17:56:38] | Varanger: | I am reinstalling mysql |
| [17:56:52] | AngryElf: | probably overkill |
| [17:57:50] | Juski: | dWeeB3: get an xbox! |
| [17:58:13] | Juski: | xbox + XBMC == what you want |
| [17:58:27] | Juski: | cons are that it looks ugly as fuck, and is noisy |
| [17:59:42] | rvalente: | ok i have an error... |
| [17:59:53] | rvalente: | i got to start my backend and it says it starts |
| [17:59:59] | rvalente: | but when i restart there is no service running |
| [18:00:13] | Juski: | start it up in a console |
| [18:00:20] | Juski: | then pastebin the error it produces |
| [18:00:32] | vallor: | okay, I've got my wintv (composite analog v4l) associated with a "composite" channel source, and the firewire dct-6200 associated with a "dtv-firewire" channel source — however, when I hit "y", myth doesn't switch tuners — is there something I'm missing? |
| [18:00:35] | AngryElf: | when you restart what? |
| [18:00:38] | rvalente: | does mythtv log to /var/log/messages? |
| [18:00:46] | Juski: | most common is that it can't connect to the DB or the permissions on the recording directory are wrong |
| [18:00:47] | rvalente: | i got to restartmyth |
| [18:00:55] | AngryElf: | backend of frontend |
| [18:00:58] | rvalente: | backend |
| [18:01:19] | vallor: | (and btw, both video sources use the same zap2it channel lineup... could that be it?) |
| [18:01:19] | rvalente: | poseidon ~ # /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... * Stopping MythTV Backend ... |
| [18:01:23] | rvalente: | start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 13534: No such process [ !! ] |
| [18:01:24] | Juski: | vallor: it's not wintv ;-) just say v4l |
| [18:01:34] | rvalente: | those are the two lines |
| [18:01:35] | vallor: | Juski: k :) |
| [18:01:39] | Varanger: | AngryElf: The problem was that I was confusing mysql with mythtv... they, both, start with MY |
| [18:01:49] | Juski: | rvalente: start mythbackend in a terminal window |
| [18:01:55] | AngryElf: | rvalente, i just use mythbackend -d |
| [18:02:01] | Juski: | as in, just type mythbackend |
| [18:02:04] | Juski: | for debugging |
| [18:02:04] | Varanger: | AngryElf: When I try to start mythbackend, I get this error: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [18:02:22] | gardengnome: | Varanger: that's not a real error, ignore it |
| [18:02:31] | AngryElf: | Varanger, are you doing sudo mythbackend or running it as the normal user? |
| [18:02:33] | Juski: | who's not been reading their howtos properly today? |
| [18:02:37] | rvalente: | Juski: im not running x right now |
| [18:02:56] | Juski: | rvalente: so? just run it with _mythbackend_ |
| [18:03:07] | vallor: | Juski: have I missed a howto on the subject? :) |
| [18:03:14] | Juski: | then it'll stop as usual with an error – only this time you'll see it |
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| [18:03:44] | Juski: | vallor: are you following a howto at all? there are _loads_ of howto guides |
| [18:03:54] | Juski: | the wiki is a good place to start aswell |
| [18:04:00] | rvalente: | "QMYSQL3 Driver Not Loaded" |
| [18:04:05] | vallor: | I've got through the docs, can't seem to find this particular circumstance |
| [18:04:08] | rvalente: | is the first error i see when i run mythbackeng |
| [18:04:21] | ** vallor looks again ** | |
| [18:04:24] | Juski: | rvalente: that'd do it. if you're on Gentoo you need MYSQL in your USE flags |
| [18:04:29] | rvalente: | it i s |
| [18:04:31] | rvalente: | :) |
| [18:05:04] | rvalente: | mysql is enabled when i run emerge -av mythtv |
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| [18:06:33] | vallor: | Juski: just don't try http://mythtv.org/modules.php?name=News&new_topic=3 for a search — it smacked me down, hehe |
| [18:06:38] | Varanger: | AngryElf: I am running mythbackend with sudo |
| [18:06:43] | rvalente: | why isnt the mysql driver available |
| [18:06:48] | rvalente: | im logged in as root lol |
| [18:07:37] | Varanger: | AngryElf: I keep having that problem: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [18:07:44] | Varanger: | s/that/this |
| [18:07:53] | gardengnome: | Varanger: that's not a real error, ignore it |
| [18:07:58] | ** gardengnome repeats himself ** | |
| [18:08:08] | ** rvalente looks through the available use flags ** | |
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| [18:09:01] | Varanger: | gardengnome: Ok, I will ignore it but why mythbackend can't start... it only says that |
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| [18:10:49] | gardengnome: | Varanger: check the mythbackend logs |
| [18:11:52] | Varanger: | Ok, it says: ERROR: No channel sources defined in the database |
| [18:12:22] | Varanger: | gardengnme: ERROR: No channel sources defined in the database |
| [18:12:47] | gardengnome: | did you run mythtv-setup? |
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| [18:13:21] | vallor: | daaaaag nabbit: "MythTV is flexible in the way that you define multiple backend tuner configurations. The only hard-and-fast rule is that the Master backend must have a capture device defined, but shouldn't imply that the capture device in the Master backend must be the first capture card defined in the database." — my config has no capture cards on the master backend, and two on the slave — both work, but "y" doesn't work — I may have to "us |
| [18:13:21] | vallor: | e the source" to fix this one... |
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| [18:13:57] | Varanger: | gardengnome: Yes, but I haven't configured any tuner yet. |
| [18:14:26] | gardengnome: | Varanger: why are you starting the backend then? |
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| [18:17:31] | rvalente: | why else wouldnt a mysql module me available |
| [18:17:44] | rvalente: | emerge --pretend -e mythtv |
| [18:19:07] | Varanger: | gardengnome: Backend is running |
| [18:19:15] | Varanger: | but I can log using the frontend |
| [18:19:45] | Varanger: | it say I can't log to mythtv |
| [18:20:27] | Varanger: | it say I can't log to mythtv@localhost |
| [18:21:01] | rvalente: | my database is create |
| [18:21:06] | rvalente: | and my backend wont start |
| [18:21:10] | rvalente: | because there is no mysql connector |
| [18:21:15] | rvalente: | but i have the use flag on |
| [18:21:16] | rvalente: | grrr |
| [18:21:51] | gardengnome: | you'll probably need to re-emerge Qt with USE="mysql" |
| [18:22:14] | rvalente: | its in my global use though |
| [18:22:52] | gardengnome: | sure, but did you compile Qt with mysql? |
| [18:23:08] | rvalente: | well it is now |
| [18:23:15] | rvalente: | the use flag was on when i did emerge -av qt |
| [18:23:18] | rvalente: | but im compiling again |
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| [18:24:40] | rvalente: | thanks god i have an 2.4GHz with 1024MB ram |
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| [18:27:13] | rhacer: | how well does MythTV work using NAS storage? |
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| [18:27:59] | Juski: | rhacer: depends on your network and the protocol you use for the NAS |
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| [18:28:36] | rhacer: | I have ability to buy a 1Tb Lacie NAS device for $200. |
| [18:28:44] | rhacer: | so I'd likely use NFS or SMB. |
| [18:28:51] | Juski: | prolly only SMB |
| [18:29:13] | rhacer: | I don't have a GigE network though only 100Mb. |
| [18:29:36] | Zider: | nfs is too unflexible imo |
| [18:29:47] | rhacer: | I'm happy to use SMB. |
| [18:29:53] | Juski: | you mean – you can't mount it only windows ;-) |
| [18:30:01] | Juski: | *on windows |
| [18:30:19] | Juski: | not for free anyway :-P |
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| [18:30:28] | Zider: | smb works fine in linux |
| [18:30:34] | rhacer: | yes it does. |
| [18:30:39] | Juski: | indeed |
| [18:30:40] | rhacer: | I've had lots of success. |
| [18:30:55] | rhacer: | I just want to know if I'll be dissappointed with performance |
| [18:30:59] | Zider: | I'm using fuse-smb on my mythbox.. :D |
| [18:31:11] | rhacer: | what's fuse-smb? |
| [18:31:33] | Zider: | rhacer: simply put, it mouhts the entore workgroup in a dir |
| [18:31:36] | Zider: | entire |
| [18:31:41] | rhacer: | ahhhh. |
| [18:31:54] | kormoc: | Erm, isn't it the filesystem user space extention? |
| [18:31:55] | Zider: | rhacer: so you can mount all sharing compuuters' all shared folders :D |
| [18:31:56] | rhacer: | so thumbs up or thumbs down on the Lacie? |
| [18:31:57] | rvalente: | could gcc 4.1 be breaking mysql connector with qt and mythtv? |
| [18:32:31] | Zider: | kormoc: Filesystem in User SpacE (I think) |
| [18:32:47] | kormoc: | yeah, it's not really a mount the entire workgroup in a dir then is it? |
| [18:33:02] | Zider: | kormoc: fuse-smb is.. |
| [18:33:22] | Zider: | kormoc: it uses fuse to mount smb workgroups |
| [18:33:26] | Zider: | basically :P |
| [18:33:27] | kormoc: | I thought it was just to allow you to mount SMB shares without the SMB kernel module |
| [18:33:27] | Juski: | what's wrong with just regular samba? |
| [18:33:46] | kormoc: | Juski, well, you don't need sambe for just mounting shares |
| [18:33:52] | kormoc: | it's just handly :) |
| [18:33:53] | Zider: | Juski: it tends to bug out if the sharing system is rebooted during file access |
| [18:34:17] | ** kormoc thinks NFS would be the better solution if it's there ** | |
| [18:34:27] | Juski: | rhacer: with one system, and up to about 4 frontends you'd not have any performance issues, even with HDTV I expect |
| [18:34:50] | rhacer: | Thank you Juski, that is the kind of input I was looking for! |
| [18:35:02] | Juski: | unless the Lacie box is a real PoS |
| [18:35:17] | rhacer: | the reviews I've seen have been pretty good. |
| [18:35:25] | Zider: | if it's a pos, give it to me |
| [18:35:32] | Zider: | it'll match the rest of my systems |
| [18:35:37] | Zider: | :P |
| [18:36:07] | Juski: | been thinking about building a _big_ server to store everything myself – using damn small linux or similar |
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| [18:36:37] | gardengnome: | naw, not dsl. better go with debian sarge or the like.. |
| [18:36:39] | ** rvalente recommends Juski should use Linux From Scratch ::giggles:: ** | |
| [18:36:40] | Zider: | yeahm I got all the big disks in a box that acts router, dns and other stuff |
| [18:36:56] | Zider: | <-- runs gentoo everywhere :D |
| [18:37:06] | rvalente: | Zider: gentoo is the precious |
| [18:37:17] | Zider: | my prrrrecious |
| [18:37:21] | ** rvalente in love with gentoo ** | |
| [18:37:30] | gardengnome: | blech. gentoo fanboyism. |
| [18:37:35] | rvalente: | rofl |
| [18:37:47] | rvalente: | how could you not like use flags |
| [18:37:53] | vallor: | okay, I think I've got this figured out: does one need to run a slave backend for each capture device? (note: I'm not using NFS sharing...) |
| [18:38:07] | rvalente: | vallor...should have to |
| [18:38:11] | rvalente: | shouldnt** |
| [18:38:13] | gardengnome: | umm, no |
| [18:38:13] | AngryElf: | right now mythflix only allows you to modify movies that are already in your queue, a la mythWiki....does it allow you to browse the movie lists and insert them into your queue? |
| [18:38:17] | vallor: | k, durn |
| [18:38:31] | Zider: | gardengnome: I'm no fanboy, I don't think it's a distro for everyone or anything, I just enjoy it myself,. |
| [18:38:43] | gardengnome: | AngryElf: what's mythwiki? |
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| [18:39:10] | AngryElf: | the myth wiki page? |
| [18:39:38] | gardengnome: | AngryElf: how does mythtv.org/wiki/ correlate to mythflix? |
| [18:40:03] | AngryElf: | it's got a page on mythflix and i was referencing it |
| [18:40:05] | AngryElf: | ? |
| [18:40:14] | Juski: | Linux from scratch? what? like Gentoo stage 1? LOL |
| [18:40:22] | cypher__: | any people able to provide clarification about setting up a video source for UK freeview, all the sites I have been wanding about seem to be confliting with each other with out of date information |
| [18:40:22] | gardengnome: | AngryElf: ah, ok. |
| [18:40:41] | Juski: | cypher__: tv_grab_uk_rt works for me |
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| [18:40:55] | Juski: | 0.19 has issues with the over the air grabber (EIT data) right now |
| [18:41:34] | cypher__: | Juski: tv_grab_uk_rt just seems to spit at me and do nothing |
| [18:41:56] | cypher__: | Juski: are you supposed to just let mythtv handle controlling it? |
| [18:42:10] | Juski: | cypher__: it's compilcated and pretty much undocumented |
| [18:42:50] | Juski: | in mythtv-setup when it runs tv_grab_uk_rt --configure select the channels you want to use – this is the app that comes up in a terminal window you have to ALT-TAB to |
| [18:43:24] | rvalente: | does the Hauppage PVR-150 MCE edition work with myth |
| [18:44:14] | cypher__: | Juski: last line in the terminal window = "exited with status 65280" |
| [18:45:16] | Juski: | rvalente: the question should be one of "does it work with Linux".. and yes is the answer |
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| [18:45:27] | rvalente: | k thanks :) |
| [18:45:35] | Juski: | despite it being crippled with the MCE moniker |
| [18:46:12] | rvalente: | IT WORKED! |
| [18:46:14] | rvalente: | :-D! |
| [18:46:22] | rvalente: | i recompiled qt |
| [18:46:54] | vallor: | aha! /me just got "y" working to switch between dct6208 and v4l composite — the docs need to be updated, hehe |
| [18:47:02] | vallor: | both are on a slave backend |
| [18:47:17] | vallor: | and I have no capture defined on the master backend |
| [18:47:33] | ivor: | Juski: nothing wrong with LFS. |
| [18:47:41] | ivor: | :) |
| [18:47:47] | Juski: | ivor: did I say there was? ;-) |
| [18:48:19] | Juski: | stage1 gentoo on the other hand – do you want rice with that? :-P |
| [18:48:32] | kormoc: | oh gawd |
| [18:48:42] | kormoc: | Have you guys seen the tomtom ads on tv? |
| [18:48:56] | ivor: | kormoc: bad? |
| [18:49:02] | Juski: | nope... how bad? |
| [18:49:06] | kormoc: | Not at all, it's a GPS solution for the car |
| [18:49:25] | kormoc: | I was courious as to how much it cost, and their website says it's europe only... |
| [18:49:33] | Juski: | are people gonna sue when they switch it on & climb over to the back seat to concentrate on things other than driving? |
| [18:49:43] | JustWilliam: | usully there lead u to a cliff edge or tells you to drive through a river |
| [18:50:07] | Juski: | JustWilliam: dead users can't sue |
| [18:50:08] | ivor: | I always love the stories about cars being sat-navved through rivers. |
| [18:50:20] | Zider: | heh, I just looked up flix on the net, and found out I really love it :D |
| [18:50:23] | JustWilliam: | lol |
| [18:50:41] | ivor: | there was one about a town down in cornwall that has a ford just about passable in a big 4x4.... |
| [18:51:04] | ivor: | but they've closed a nearby road and people have been using their satnavs to find a detour |
| [18:51:10] | Juski: | don't all tomtom owners drive 4x4's anyway? |
| [18:51:13] | cypher__: | Juski: I am right to be using the gentoo xmltv package? |
| [18:51:22] | ivor: | apparently they used to get a car stuck in thr ford every two or three weeks before.... |
| [18:51:32] | ivor: | currently getting about three a day. :) |
| [18:51:41] | Juski: | I mean – it's only incase they get lost taking the kid to school isn't it? |
| [18:51:53] | kormoc: | Juski, I'd likely get something similar to a tomtom someday, I like having gps in the car |
| [18:51:58] | ivor: | gotta say I found my gps pretty handy today actually. |
| [18:52:06] | ivor: | going around looking at houses. |
| [18:52:21] | Zider: | hm, and where in the menu should mythflix show up? |
| [18:52:22] | ivor: | just get all the postcodes, tap them all into the satnav.. and it takes you around them all. |
| [18:53:21] | kormoc: | ivor, yeah, when I drove from the east coast to the west coast, I loved having my GPS, the only issue is it requires a laptop |
| [18:54:32] | Juski: | Zider: information centre IIRC |
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| [18:55:17] | Zider: | Juski: ah.. |
| [18:56:13] | Zider: | Juski: hm, and how do I wathc the movies..? |
| [18:56:39] | vallor: | it looks like using the shared nfs is a better fit for having two backends on a slave — otherwise, it takes a few seconds to flip between inputs |
| [18:56:55] | kormoc: | Zider, you don't, it's just a manager for your queue |
| [18:56:55] | vallor: | er, two capture cards on a slave |
| [18:57:34] | Zider: | kormoc: oh, I thought it was an "interface" for the (partially) free movies |
| [18:58:21] | kormoc: | what free movies? |
| [18:58:22] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [18:58:45] | Zider: | kormoc: on movieflix.com? |
| [18:58:56] | Zider: | I assumed that's what the plugin was meant for |
| [18:59:03] | kormoc: | heh, yeah, mythflix is for netflix.com :P |
| [18:59:09] | ** vallor peers askance at the skies... ** | |
| [18:59:36] | Zider: | kormoc: oh.. :P |
| [18:59:48] | gardengnome: | vallor: are you really using two instances of mythbackend on one computer? |
| [19:00:17] | Zider: | kormoc: dammit, I wanted to have the free (or paid) movies on movieflix.com in my mythtv.. :D |
| [19:01:17] | vallor: | gardengnome: no, I said that wrong — I have the v4l and the dct6208 on a slave backend on one computer, and a masterbackend running on my primary workstation, along with using that to run mythfrontend |
| [19:01:51] | gardengnome: | oh, ok |
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| [19:02:27] | kormoc: | Zider, well, patch away! ;) |
| [19:02:39] | Zider: | kormoc: :D |
| [19:02:53] | vallor: | gardengnome: next I'm going to move all my recordings over from the old workstation, migrate the database entries over to the new database, and I'll be ready to rock :) |
| [19:03:03] | Zider: | hm, maybe I can fiddle with mythstream for that.. hmmmmmm.. *scratches beard* |
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| [19:05:22] | gardengnome: | vallor: good luck :) |
| [19:05:26] | mycroes: | Hi |
| [19:05:35] | mycroes: | recenlty installed myth again |
| [19:05:41] | mycroes: | I have everything working, except for sound |
| [19:05:44] | gardengnome: | hiya GreyFoxx |
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| [19:06:24] | mycroes: | I tried 2 methods, using an external cable to send sound to my sound card and by using devices created by v4l |
| [19:06:28] | mycroes: | but still no go... |
| [19:06:40] | mycroes: | anyone got any suggestions? |
| [19:07:10] | vallor: | are you using alsa? |
| [19:07:24] | mycroes: | yes |
| [19:07:52] | vallor: | you've check alsamixer to make sure the capture line is selected? |
| [19:08:06] | vallor: | (regarding using the external cable) |
| [19:08:38] | vallor: | do alsamixer -c (whichever card, 0, 1, whichever) then use f5 to expose the capture devices |
| [19:09:14] | mycroes: | yeah it's set as capture now... |
| [19:10:03] | vallor: | hmm |
| [19:10:28] | vallor: | alsamixer also reports the hardware device associated with the -c (cardnumber) number... |
| [19:10:31] | mycroes: | just a moment, gonna try something... |
| [19:10:34] | vallor: | make sure that matches what you expect :) |
| [19:11:58] | mycroes: | hmmm |
| [19:12:01] | mycroes: | nothing yet |
| [19:12:17] | mycroes: | I tried a different approach now, I plugged in my mp3 player to line in |
| [19:12:25] | mycroes: | and I'm not getting sound in mythtv yet |
| [19:13:56] | vallor: | sounds like you might have it capturing from the wrong alsa device? /me uses the oss emulator and captures from /dev/dsp2 ... |
| [19:14:26] | mycroes: | if I unmute line I get sound... |
| [19:15:17] | mycroes: | it's just the one setting in mythtv-setup? |
| [19:15:36] | vallor: | yes indeed |
| [19:15:48] | vallor: | under capture card |
| [19:15:53] | mycroes: | why do you have it set to /dev/dsp2? |
| [19:16:20] | mycroes: | at capture cards I have it set to /dev/dsp |
| [19:16:21] | vallor: | that's where my onboard dsp shows up on that box, which is where I have the cable box plugged into line in |
| [19:17:05] | vallor: | my /dev/dsp0 is an audigy, /dev/dsp1 is the brooktree i2c (or is that i2o?) device, and /dev/dsp2 is the onboard intel/ac'97 |
| [19:17:11] | mycroes: | well if I do cat for all my /dev/dsp* devices it only finds a device at dsp |
| [19:17:18] | mycroes: | and it's set to dsp |
| [19:17:32] | mycroes: | do I need to set the audiosamplerate setting beneath? |
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| [19:18:06] | vallor: | I don't think so, mine's set with "unlimited" — one sec, I'll take a peek |
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| [19:18:58] | vallor: | mine is set to (None) |
| [19:19:06] | mycroes: | I've had myth running quite some time ago, but that was a complete different machine... |
| [19:19:12] | mycroes: | I had mine at none too... |
| [19:20:39] | mycroes: | still no sound... |
| [19:20:57] | vallor: | do you need to turn up your pcm level? |
| [19:21:04] | vallor: | (pcm level is set in mythfrontend, btw) |
| [19:21:55] | mycroes: | what keys can i use to do that? |
| [19:22:31] | vallor: | one sec... |
| [19:23:38] | vallor: | in mythfrontend, select Utilities/Setup > Setup > General then hit Next> twice |
| [19:23:51] | vallor: | you should see a page "Audio" |
| [19:23:56] | vallor: | with Audio output device: |
| [19:24:22] | mycroes: | I'm there |
| [19:24:28] | vallor: | also "mixer device", with "master mixer volume" and "pcm mixer volume" |
| [19:24:31] | mycroes: | I have audio output device set to ALSA:default |
| [19:24:59] | mycroes: | I cranked the volumes up to 100, they were at 70 |
| [19:25:34] | vallor: | hmm |
| [19:25:39] | mycroes: | it was the audio output dvice... |
| [19:25:43] | mycroes: | changed it to /dev/dsp |
| [19:25:49] | vallor: | ah, roxor |
| [19:26:03] | vallor: | that's what I'm doing, too, using the oss emulator |
| [19:26:14] | vallor: | alsa is still kind of a black box to me |
| [19:26:20] | mycroes: | now I'm hearing my mp3-player though... :P |
| [19:26:21] | vallor: | (so to speak...) |
| [19:26:22] | Zider: | black box? |
| [19:27:04] | vallor: | Zider: yes, selecting an alsa device always seems like it requires a degree in PC audio hardware |
| [19:27:13] | mycroes: | :P |
| [19:27:13] | vallor: | engineering |
| [19:27:16] | Zider: | nah, not really |
| [19:27:16] | mycroes: | lol |
| [19:27:46] | mycroes: | now I'm back to connecting my tv tuner card audio... |
| [19:28:19] | mycroes: | silence again... :P |
| [19:28:28] | vallor: | hmm, my mythfrontend doesn't give me the option of using alsa anyway, heh |
| [19:29:01] | mycroes: | mine does neither ;) |
| [19:29:04] | mycroes: | but you can type :P |
| [19:29:10] | vallor: | oh! |
| [19:30:21] | mycroes: | well, it's clear there's no sound coming from my card |
| [19:30:27] | vallor: | 2006-04–23 12:30:12.174 NVP: Disabling Audio, reason is: Error opening audio device (alsa:default), the error was: No such file or directory |
| [19:30:46] | gardengnome: | vallor: alsa:Default |
| [19:30:57] | ** vallor tries... ** | |
| [19:31:04] | mycroes: | I think I used ALSA:Default last time my sound worked... |
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| [19:31:39] | vallor: | 2006-04–23 12:31:33.542 Error opening audio device (alsa:Default), the error was: No such file or directory |
| [19:31:51] | gardengnome: | vallor: uh, ALSA:Default ? |
| [19:32:02] | mycroes: | well I'm gonna try to get sound from my card by using v4l generated sound devices... |
| [19:32:07] | ** vallor loves science faire (tm) ;) ** | |
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| [19:33:10] | vallor: | ALSA lib pcm.c:2099:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM Default — /me goes back to /dev/dsp, that worked ;) |
| [19:34:45] | mycroes: | lol |
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| [19:39:05] | mycroes: | I have sound :) |
| [19:39:12] | Zider: | me too |
| [19:39:14] | mycroes: | but it's totally fucked up right now :P |
| [19:39:27] | vallor: | ouch |
| [19:39:37] | Zider: | I gave up on my onboard POS tho, and got an extra pci card :P |
| [19:40:09] | mycroes: | POS? |
| [19:40:19] | Zider: | Pioece Of Shit |
| [19:40:27] | vallor: | quite |
| [19:40:27] | mycroes: | :P |
| [19:40:45] | Zider: | intel8x0 :P |
| [19:40:48] | mycroes: | now at least I know where that soundratelimitsomething is about |
| [19:41:21] | Zider: | I'm thinking about getting a sblive or something |
| [19:41:35] | Zider: | to get some nice quality sound and good functionality :P |
| [19:41:47] | mycroes: | I had a sb live |
| [19:41:57] | mycroes: | it was nothing better than any of my other sound cards |
| [19:42:10] | mycroes: | there's just a slight tad better quality |
| [19:42:15] | mycroes: | not worth the money |
| [19:43:18] | Zider: | mycroes: well, I'm sure the drivers are better tho.. I can't get all audio out the spdif port without heck of a lot of fiddling and tweaking :P |
| [19:43:49] | mycroes: | lol |
| [19:43:53] | Zider: | works fine in my other system, with intel-hda |
| [19:43:56] | mycroes: | yeah that might be true "{ |
| [19:43:58] | mycroes: | *:P |
| [19:44:17] | mycroes: | I'm using myth on my ASUS S-presso barebone |
| [19:44:32] | mycroes: | the biggest problem is I might want a second tuner card |
| [19:44:33] | Zider: | ah, this is an ASUS p4p800 |
| [19:44:42] | mycroes: | and there's just one pci slot... |
| [19:44:47] | Zider: | ouch :P |
| [19:44:49] | mycroes: | the board in the s-presso is a p4p8t |
| [19:45:12] | Zider: | so it's like mine but cut shorter then ;) |
| [19:45:33] | mycroes: | :P |
| [19:46:04] | Zider: | both my "main" system has asus mb's |
| [19:46:33] | mycroes: | I don't really have any main systems :p |
| [19:46:38] | mycroes: | I have a laptop |
| [19:46:44] | mycroes: | a desktop with cheap parts |
| [19:46:47] | mycroes: | and my barebone |
| [19:46:48] | Zider: | heh |
| [19:46:55] | mycroes: | and an athlon 800 as server |
| [19:47:41] | Zider: | most "good" stuff I got goes into "sunclub", my very main system.. router, dns, rsync, file share, workstation, game system... |
| [19:47:54] | mycroes: | but still with all those machines I can't get my sound set up properly in myth ;) |
| [19:47:56] | Zider: | then I got the laptop and the mythbox |
| [19:48:54] | Zider: | the extra sound card for recording audio wouldn't be needed if the tuner on my tv card wasn't fried |
| [19:49:08] | Zider: | so I need to have a VCR to change channel, and record thru svideo + sound card |
| [19:50:04] | mycroes: | lol |
| [19:50:33] | mycroes: | hmmmm... |
| [19:50:36] | Juski: | cheap gear != value for money |
| [19:50:40] | Zider: | but as soon as I get a new tv card with functional tuner, the extra sound card goes out again :D |
| [19:50:42] | mycroes: | maybe I could use my vcr as second tuner |
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| [19:50:51] | Zider: | Juski: can be.. |
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| [19:51:02] | mycroes: | then connect it to S-video on my tv-tuner card |
| [19:51:19] | mycroes: | but I don't know if I can simultaneously read from both |
| [19:51:28] | Zider: | mycroes: doubtful |
| [19:51:36] | Juski: | impossible, even |
| [19:51:41] | mycroes: | lol |
| [19:51:44] | Juski: | unless you want to record both at 12fps |
| [19:52:21] | Juski: | myth wouldn't support that though |
| [19:52:33] | mycroes: | I see... |
| [19:52:39] | Zider: | if the card hasd dual tuners it should work tho |
| [19:52:56] | mycroes: | well I got my sound working |
| [19:53:13] | Juski: | specifically, if the card had 2 video capture/encoding devices onboard, yes |
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| [19:54:07] | mycroes: | my sound is a bit cracky |
| [19:54:14] | mycroes: | a bit crispy |
| [19:54:30] | dtm: | but sweet, creamy, and tender on the inside |
| [19:54:32] | mycroes: | like going to the movies and someone is eating popcorn all movie long |
| [19:55:09] | mycroes: | and other then that, everything is blue |
| [20:01:29] | dtm: | bottomless bucket of delicious, buttery sound |
| [20:02:16] | mycroes: | :P |
| [20:02:44] | dtm: | well done |
| [20:03:13] | mycroes: | still crispy sound... |
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| [20:07:28] | mycroes: | next step: tv-out |
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| [20:25:27] | ncd2: | http://bttv-gallery.de/ |
| [20:25:30] | ncd2: | enjoy |
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| [20:37:46] | scopeuk: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sportster.johnson/Code%20Monkey.mp3 |
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| [20:37:58] | scopeuk: | oops wrogn chan |
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| [20:44:18] | vallor: | ah, here's the next crazy question — I've got the v4l hooked to the cable box via composite, _and_ I've got the direct firewire link to the cable box — so it's two capture methods with one tuner... |
| [20:44:45] | vallor: | how to tell mythtv that it shouldn't try to use the second input for recording if it is already recording using the first method? |
| [20:45:30] | scopeuk: | ill point out its under creative commons in case anyoen worried |
| [20:45:33] | hd420: | no input connections? wtf? |
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| [20:54:16] | vallor: | hd420: ? |
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| [20:54:51] | hd420: | in mythtv-setup, I'm getting "no input connections" in the setup? |
| [20:55:04] | ** vallor notes the "4/20" and wonders if hd420 has a different "internal clock", as it were... ** | |
| [20:55:08] | GeM: | 22:54:53 up 209 days, 23:01, 5 users, load average: 0.15, 0.28, 0.65 |
| [20:55:18] | GeM: | I love my mythbackend :) |
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| [20:55:45] | vallor: | GeM: only downside is the kernel isn't up to date, hehe |
| [20:55:59] | GeM: | true :) |
| [20:56:17] | GeM: | it's not that bad, 2.6.12 |
| [20:56:19] | scopeuk: | anyone got any experience makign the intell i810 driver output to composite aswell as/inplace of vga |
| [20:56:50] | hd420: | GeM: I'm using 2.6.12 as well, ubuntu breezy |
| [20:57:20] | GeM: | Gentoo here |
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| [21:09:04] | RaYmAn-Bx: | scopeuk: It's usually the same output as s-video, isn't it? I got that working on my i915 with the i810 driver |
| [21:09:32] | vallor: | there's some kind of "clone" mode with X, don't remember what it's called |
| [21:09:45] | vallor: | saw it mentioned on the mythtv-users mailing list |
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| [21:11:48] | RaYmAn-Bx: | scopeuk: I never managed to get simultaneous vga and s-video though.. |
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| [21:18:23] | vallor: | wish I had GigE on my old workstation, copying 200 Gigs is taking a while |
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| [21:29:57] | scopeuk: | you say thats n the mailing list RaYmAn-Bx thanks |
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| [21:31:27] | Umaro: | hey guys.. is the tvgrabber.pl script not working for anyone else? |
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| [21:39:38] | scopeuk: | thanks alot RaYmAn-Bx |
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| [21:41:47] | BBlinkk: | i cant get channels above 60... |
| [21:41:50] | BBlinkk: | any suggestions? |
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| [22:03:56] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: I dunno how to fix that OSD |
| [22:04:05] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: I put in the new gfx card and nothing changed |
| [22:04:17] | SlicerDicer-: | xvmc works on my other computers |
| [22:04:22] | SlicerDicer-: | it just not working on that one |
| [22:04:24] | SlicerDicer-: | any ideas? |
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| [22:12:05] | Juski: | WTH is all this about? tvanytime from a webpage the bbc provides? eh? http://www.webcoding.co.uk/?page=bash |
| [22:13:06] | vallor: | I tried to enable xvmc on my machine, the video went "kerblooey" |
| [22:13:29] | vallor: | evga nvideo 7800gtx |
| [22:13:52] | vallor: | er, nvideo |
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| [22:13:57] | vallor: | dammit, nvidia |
| [22:14:47] | Zider: | vallor: didn't they remove xvmc on the later cards? |
| [22:17:20] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: can you help me with a crontask? |
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| [22:19:31] | Juski: | looks like Auntie Beeb is providing listings data in tvanytime format now. nifty |
| [22:22:22] | one1: | I need some help please. Im running version .18 of mythtv and everything is fine except commercial auto skip quit working. Ive checked pretty much everywhere in the setups and cannot find an answer. Any ideas please? |
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| [22:25:48] | one1: | I need some help please. Im running version .18 of mythtv and everything is fine except commercial auto skip quit working. Ive checked pretty much everywhere in the setups and cannot find an answer. Any ideas please? |
| [22:25:52] | vallor: | Zider: I don't know, I tried activating it, and it kilt the display — had to reboot |
| [22:26:46] | one1: | Looking for help with auto commercial skipping. It quit working in mythtv ver. 18. Anyone can help?? |
| [22:27:17] | mishehu: | one1: you've repeated yourself how many times in the past 4 minutes? |
| [22:27:17] | vallor: | alas, I haven't used that feature yet |
| [22:27:37] | one1: | mishehu: Sorry, Poor comcast connection. |
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| [22:28:15] | blafd: | ok |
| [22:28:29] | blafd: | mythbackend <defunct> grows tiersome |
| [22:28:34] | blafd: | ;/ |
| [22:29:04] | vallor: | which distribution of Linux are you running? |
| [22:29:18] | vallor: | blafd: to you I address the question :) |
| [22:29:26] | blafd: | oh debian.. ;) |
| [22:29:41] | vallor: | 'cuz that would seem to indicate that init isn't doing its thing |
| [22:29:52] | blafd: | it does for a little while |
| [22:30:06] | blafd: | the whole setup was working allot better then it is now earlyer |
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| [22:31:59] | blafd: | is there a way to reset every thing to default again? |
| [22:32:31] | mchou: | blafd: delete the db? :) |
| [22:32:40] | blafd: | arrgh |
| [22:32:40] | vallor: | yikes |
| [22:32:56] | blafd: | why are these bees attacking!! |
| [22:33:40] | mchou: | man, that fx5200 is a weak card. |
| [22:33:42] | blafd: | stop waving your arms vallor!! |
| [22:34:09] | blafd: | this is the time to be valiant! |
| [22:34:19] | mchou: | tried one for the first time today. it's weaker than GF4Ti |
| [22:35:08] | blafd: | heh yeah ive seen low end radeons see them and the 500mhz ones |
| [22:35:53] | blafd: | they do however get the job done with out spending a bomb at the time time |
| [22:36:23] | mchou: | blafd: not if you intend to play some 3d games. |
| [22:36:36] | blafd: | well the 5500 is barely acceptable now in my book |
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| [22:37:58] | mchou: | no wonder the fx5200 have been on clearance for $10 |
| [22:38:11] | blafd: | i baught this 9250 radeon for peanuts a while back it pissed on the 5200/5500 class graphics from a disying height heh addition graphical features turned up in nfsu mw |
| [22:38:33] | mchou: | who'd want to pay $45 for that POS these days? |
| [22:38:45] | ** blafd was rattled by ati that day ** | |
| [22:39:03] | mchou: | ATI drivers suck shit |
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| [22:41:50] | blafd: | no arguments there mchou |
| [22:41:54] | blafd: | heheh |
| [22:42:43] | mchou: | I'm pissed. |
| [22:43:00] | mchou: | PC HW is the shits |
| [22:43:53] | mchou: | my a64 proc is still pegged playing 1080 |
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| [22:44:38] | blafd: | cpu hammering? |
| [22:44:48] | mchou: | it's ridiculous. Someone make a NICE mpeg decoder/display card already |
| [22:45:06] | blafd: | Ha mchou did you see the url i posted earlyer? |
| [22:45:28] | mchou: | blafd: no. wanna post it again? |
| [22:45:41] | blafd: | look at all these felas http://bttv-gallery.de/ |
| [22:46:45] | mchou: | blafd: I dont get it. that site is ancient |
| [22:47:01] | blafd: | it cant be that old |
| [22:47:06] | mchou: | all those are capture cards |
| [22:47:20] | mchou: | dont need no stinking capture cards |
| [22:47:32] | mchou: | need a good decoder card |
| [22:47:56] | blafd: | wouldnt certain tuners have a hardware decoder on them..? |
| [22:48:09] | mchou: | blafd: no |
| [22:48:44] | mchou: | blafd: for digital tv it basically just a network card |
| [22:49:06] | Juski: | mchou: I can play 1080i in windows ffs – on an athlon 2800 (2Ghz) and a shitty fx5200 |
| [22:49:10] | blafd: | The "D" means "data only". They have also 200 and 300 models. These |
| [22:49:10] | blafd: | have hardware MPEG decoders and are thus much more expensive. |
| [22:49:14] | Juski: | (and deinterlace it) |
| [22:49:18] | mchou: | like d/l mp3 off the net |
| [22:49:52] | mchou: | Juski: yeah, but can you do that in linux? |
| [22:50:21] | Juski: | dunno. my linux boxes don't have as fast a CPU so I've never tried |
| [22:50:48] | Juski: | that, and the only one with a fx5200 fitted is my backend machine (the other is an epia I know can't play 1080) |
| [22:52:42] | blafd: | Man if i ever get just normal DTV to work again for longer then a few micro seconds ill take note of my cpu |
| [22:53:14] | blafd: | A64 3000+ here, 512mb, x86 mode |
| [22:54:24] | Juski: | maybe 64bit just isn't there yet, even in linux |
| [22:55:26] | mchou: | heh, maybe I'll just use svideo |
| [22:55:49] | mchou: | aint as demanding as decoding HDTV |
| [22:56:07] | mchou: | and commercial flagging will work again |
| [22:56:27] | mchou: | sigh.... |
| [22:57:22] | mchou: | I wonder what procs are in those HDTV sets for decoding 1080 |
| [22:57:43] | mchou: | someone should put those on a pci card |
| [22:57:46] | Juski: | prolly dedicated decoders |
| [22:57:55] | Juski: | made by phillips or conexant |
| [22:58:23] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: its super secret goverment level badassness stuff |
| [22:58:42] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: hey, I've been looking for you.... |
| [22:58:48] | Juski: | hell will freeze over before you see an hdtv decoder card at a price a consumer would want to pay |
| [22:58:59] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: you have a 2 tuner pvr from comcast, right? |
| [22:59:08] | SlicerDicer-: | errm sort of yes |
| [22:59:12] | SlicerDicer-: | but not really |
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| [22:59:20] | SlicerDicer-: | its 2 firewire connects |
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| [22:59:31] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: DCT-6214 or some such, correct |
| [22:59:34] | mchou: | ?? |
| [22:59:39] | SlicerDicer-: | yep 6200 |
| [23:00:01] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: no, 6214 is a dual tuner dvr |
| [23:00:11] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh no I dont have that no not that I am aware of |
| [23:00:16] | SlicerDicer-: | I have 2 6200's |
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| [23:00:36] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: take them back and ask for the 6214 |
| [23:00:44] | SlicerDicer-: | seriously? |
| [23:00:52] | mchou: | yeah, no kidding |
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| [23:01:14] | mchou: | who needs two stbs when 1 will do? |
| [23:01:16] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [23:01:22] | SlicerDicer-: | good point indeed |
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| [23:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I have the 3412 dual tuner |
| [23:02:02] | SlicerDicer-: | heh |
| [23:02:17] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: oh, that's even better |
| [23:02:39] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: are both of those tuners firewire addressable? |
| [23:02:47] | SlicerDicer-: | dunno |
| [23:02:58] | DrBair: | I'm trying to adjust the picture on my TV out with xvidtune. Whenever I change anything it complains that its out of range and will refuse to apply the changes. Any ideas? |
| [23:03:17] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/produ . . . /default.asp |
| [23:05:51] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: why havent you tried firewire with both tuners on the 3412? |
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| [23:07:23] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: did not think of it |
| [23:07:35] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [23:08:28] | SlicerDicer-: | that one is almost identical to mine |
| [23:08:39] | SlicerDicer-: | cept 80gb harddrive is in the one I got and no smart card thing |
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| [23:09:59] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: well, what you waiting for, give it a shot :) |
| [23:10:25] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: recordings going right now |
| [23:10:31] | mchou: | see if you can record from both tuners :) |
| [23:10:43] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [23:10:47] | SlicerDicer-: | I will later |
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| [23:23:59] | SlicerDicer-: | I am busy messing with a recipe program mchou |
| [23:24:22] | blafd: | £89.99 for hd180 avermedia here |
| [23:24:53] | ** blafd scoulds them ** | |
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| [23:33:49] | blafd: | whats this about: "unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION" |
| [23:34:30] | havoc: | blafd: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html |
| [23:34:59] | havoc: | "NOTE: If you modify the 127.0.0.1 address and use a "real" IP address, you must use real IP addresses in both fields, otherwise your frontend machines will generate "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION" errors." |
| [23:35:06] | havoc: | that sound like your problem? |
| [23:38:04] | blafd: | nope |
| [23:38:09] | blafd: | im running it locally |
| [23:38:17] | blafd: | and there both set to 127.x |
| [23:38:31] | havoc: | then I have no clue :| |
| [23:38:44] | havoc: | sorry |
| [23:39:24] | ** blafd reboots for the 160000^2 times ** | |
| [23:39:58] | blafd: | poor harddisk |
| [23:41:39] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I am messing around with 160,000 recipes lol |
| [23:41:44] | SlicerDicer-: | trying to import them |
| [23:41:49] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know how well its going to work |
| [23:41:55] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [23:41:58] | SlicerDicer-: | mass importation |
| [23:45:17] | blafd: | hmm |
| [23:45:33] | blafd: | i just rm *.mpg from the /var/mythtv directory |
| [23:45:48] | blafd: | and its aleast giving me a picture again |
| [23:46:08] | blafd: | but now its spewing out "Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times" |
| [23:46:18] | blafd: | and its locked up |
| [23:47:09] | blafd: | ah ok that was seg ;) |
| [23:47:11] | blafd: | ;( |
| [23:49:41] | blafd: | man im gona torture this usb tuner when i get something a bit better heheh |
| [23:50:46] | blafd: | I would actually black list on a NOT supported section of the howto/website if i was the devs |
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| [23:57:14] | blafd: | Danger Will Robin!!# |
| [23:57:47] | blafd: | KWORLD TUNERS EMIT DELTA RAYS!! |
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