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| [00:05:16] | jchillerup|: | Hi. Can MythTV somehow stream live audio from the internet? |
| [00:05:31] | jchillerup|: | Using the UI. |
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| [00:08:17] | xris: | jchillerup|: mythstream — I don't think it got updated for .19, though. |
| [00:09:45] | jchillerup|: | hm |
| [00:10:01] | jchillerup|: | But what's new in .19? I can live with .18 if it's only minor changes |
| [00:10:32] | kazan: | woot fixed my problem |
| [00:10:42] | xris: | jchillerup|: lots of new things |
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| [00:12:39] | Beirdo: | yum |
| [00:12:41] | Beirdo: | apples |
| [00:12:54] | ** kazan 's mythbox is recording :D ** | |
| [00:12:59] | kazan: | i barely got it up in time to record |
| [00:13:05] | kazan: | didn't even get time to customize my recording profiles |
| [00:13:59] | ** xris can't customize recording profiles ** | |
| [00:14:05] | kazan: | 5G in 1/2 hour on SDTV .... |
| [00:14:20] | kazan: | no wonder while i'm only eating 20% CPU |
| [00:14:28] | ** kazan can't wait till his PVR-500 gets here ** | |
| [00:14:51] | kazan: | with a PVR 500 do i have to split the signal outside the box, or does it take one cable and split the signal internally? |
| [00:14:52] | jchillerup|: | What's new in PVR-500? |
| [00:14:54] | havoc: | I want one, but it looks like I should pay my mortgage instead :| |
| [00:15:01] | kazan: | my new PVR-500 jchillerup |
| [00:15:06] | kazan: | haha lol havoc |
| [00:15:22] | kazan: | i thought i had a dead bt878 tuner so i got away with ordering a PVR-500 without my fiancee being to anal |
| [00:15:25] | xris: | kazan: internal splitter for analog cable |
| [00:15:37] | kazan: | i ordered a Turtle Beach Riviera too – but it's being delivered to work :D |
| [00:16:39] | kazan: | xris: sweet only have to use one port on my splitter then :D |
| [00:16:53] | kazan: | i have a booster/4-way splitter |
| [00:17:01] | jchillerup|: | How much is the pvr-500? |
| [00:17:25] | jchillerup|: | Cause I'm going to build a mythtv box for my brother |
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| [00:17:41] | jchillerup|: | And he wants to be able to record something and watch something else |
| [00:17:46] | xris: | jchillerup|: pricegrabber is your friend. |
| [00:17:53] | jchillerup|: | :S |
| [00:17:54] | kazan: | $150 to $170 new on ebay |
| [00:17:57] | jchillerup|: | ok |
| [00:18:13] | kazan: | getting link |
| [00:18:23] | xris: | kazan: why would you shop on ebay for something you can just as easily get at a reputable store? |
| [00:18:33] | kazan: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . AIT&rd=1 |
| [00:18:42] | xris: | http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_gen.php?form_keyword=pvr-500 |
| [00:18:45] | kazan: | someone with a 26000+ feedback rating IS a reputable source |
| [00:18:52] | kazan: | $144.99 |
| [00:18:59] | kazan: | 16 more available |
| [00:19:06] | xris: | kazan: $139 from buy.com with free shipping |
| [00:19:18] | kazan: | free shipping here too |
| [00:19:20] | kazan: | so i'm out $5 |
| [00:19:28] | kazan: | these are new, still sealed in shrink wrap |
| [00:19:38] | kazan: | OEM package |
| [00:19:52] | xris: | but why even check ebay when there are easier places to go through? |
| [00:20:31] | scopeuk: | ebay is legalised gambeling |
| [00:20:36] | kazan: | hardly |
| [00:20:44] | jchillerup|: | Is it supported, the PVR-500? |
| [00:20:46] | scopeuk: | i bet you $500 that i recive a parcel in the next week |
| [00:20:47] | scopeuk: | :D |
| [00:20:48] | ** kazan has never had a problem with ebay ** | |
| [00:20:53] | xris: | jchillerup|: yeah, works fine |
| [00:20:53] | kazan: | jchillerup: absofragginlutely |
| [00:20:55] | scopeuk: | kazan giot lucky |
| [00:20:59] | kazan: | jchillerup: it's one of the best cards in existance |
| [00:21:06] | kazan: | scopeuk: i check feedback profiles |
| [00:21:06] | scopeuk: | any way im ff l8r |
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| [00:21:20] | jchillerup|: | With FM tuner, kazan, xris? |
| [00:21:24] | kazan: | yes |
| [00:21:32] | jchillerup|: | Cool. |
| [00:21:36] | kazan: | it's basically two PVR-150s on one PCI board |
| [00:21:43] | jchillerup|: | ok.. |
| [00:21:48] | kazan: | hardware MPEG2 encoding |
| [00:21:51] | jchillerup|: | Good |
| [00:21:55] | ** xris ponders what to do with his pvr-150 now that he's done using it. ** | |
| [00:21:56] | kazan: | two simultaneous streams |
| [00:22:05] | kazan: | xris: you can never have too many tuners |
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| [00:22:13] | xris: | kazan: I don't use a tuner with my mythbox |
| [00:22:17] | kazan: | ????? |
| [00:22:20] | xris: | firewire |
| [00:22:20] | kazan: | oooh... firewire? |
| [00:23:04] | xris: | might keep my air2pc around, though no real need... will keep my dvb card and start messing with FTA stuff out of curiositu |
| [00:23:07] | xris: | curiosity |
| [00:23:08] | jchillerup|: | xris, is the IR receiver supported by LIRC |
| [00:23:16] | xris: | jchillerup|: yes |
| [00:23:28] | kazan: | pictures of the PVR-500 shows it having two TV IN coax heads |
| [00:23:38] | jchillerup|: | No |
| [00:23:40] | kormoc: | kazan, one is cable and one is tv |
| [00:23:42] | kormoc: | erm |
| [00:23:47] | jchillerup|: | one is radio and one is tv |
| [00:23:48] | kormoc: | kazan, one is cable and one is radio |
| [00:23:58] | kazan: | both are labled "TV in" on this image |
| [00:24:08] | jchillerup|: | One is FM in |
| [00:24:08] | kazan: | http://www.press-images.co.uk/Hauppauge%20Dig . . . 00%20MCE.jpg |
| [00:24:09] | jchillerup|: | On this |
| [00:24:16] | kazan: | oh wait |
| [00:24:18] | kormoc: | you need the breakout box to get a second coax input iirc |
| [00:24:20] | kazan: | maybe that does read FM IN |
| [00:24:37] | kormoc: | yeah, it does |
| [00:26:50] | jchillerup|: | ok |
| [00:26:57] | jchillerup|: | I'll be going for a pvr500 for my brother :) |
| [00:27:06] | jchillerup|: | but it's a pity, the radio isn't supported |
| [00:27:31] | xris: | jchillerup|: no radio is supported in mythtv |
| [00:27:39] | jchillerup|: | No, that's what I mean |
| [00:28:00] | jchillerup|: | And then he wants Windows MCE :( |
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| [00:29:50] | kazan: | you need to educate him :D |
| [00:30:14] | ** Gurft just got low speed serial working with his directv box, looking for another tuner so he can hook up second box :) ** | |
| [00:30:21] | jchillerup|: | heh |
| [00:30:27] | jchillerup|: | But radio is really important to him |
| [00:30:33] | jchillerup|: | But maybe if he can stream it |
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| [00:30:42] | jchillerup|: | That'll give him better sound quality, too |
| [00:31:12] | Gurft: | Gotta get him on DirecTV, comes with XM radio in the 800's ;) |
| [00:31:50] | jchillerup|: | ;) |
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| [00:32:09] | jchillerup|: | It's very difficult to find Mini-ITX hardware in Denmark :S |
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| [00:33:19] | jchillerup|: | Do I need low profile RAM for a travla C137? |
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| [00:37:17] | kazan: | no idea |
| [00:37:20] | kazan: | anyone else here using FC5 |
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| [00:37:56] | xris: | me |
| [00:38:34] | kazan: | you got lirc working? |
| [00:38:55] | kazan: | lirc_gpio module is missing but lirc .8 is installed |
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| [00:41:08] | k-man: | is there an apt-gettable mythburn? |
| [00:43:51] | Anduin: | kazan: I'm using the one from CVS as of a little while ago (though not lirc_gpio and not from a package). |
| [00:44:55] | kazan: | ah |
| [00:45:02] | ** kazan grumbles ** | |
| [00:45:21] | kazan: | add ATrpms and do a yum update and watch the packages fly..... |
| [00:46:04] | Anduin: | I mostly like what atrpms does, but I'm never using them. |
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| [00:46:45] | kazan: | haha dependancy block |
| [00:46:48] | kazan: | nope not gunna use em |
| [00:47:09] | kazan: | they still cannot play nice with their repo and make everything a freaking dependancy and all kinds of other ditry stuff |
| [00:47:12] | kazan: | not going to use them |
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| [00:51:08] | kazan: | grrrrr |
| [00:51:16] | kazan: | where is the stinking kmods |
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| [01:05:24] | AngryElf: | i've got a channel offset problem, for example: the file created by channel 45 starts as 1044... the docs point me to the v4l mailing list but i've searched their archives and haven't found anything related, has anybody else solved this? |
| [01:05:33] | kazan: | why the fark isn't it starting my commflag job... |
| [01:07:50] | kormoc: | kazan, blast! I knew the attitude, tf right? |
| [01:09:39] | kazan: | hehe yes |
| [01:10:01] | kazan: | commflag jobs were disabled on this backend :D |
| [01:10:12] | kazan: | it's commflagging at 200fps now |
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| [01:17:11] | kazan|afk: | hrm |
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| [01:17:27] | kazan: | my image is a little too large for the TV screen |
| [01:17:43] | kormoc: | adjust your overscan |
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| [01:21:18] | kazan: | hmm |
| [01:21:19] | kazan: | how |
| [01:21:23] | kazan: | it's an ATI video card |
| [01:21:41] | kazan: | the fglrx config tool's adjustments do nothing |
| [01:26:35] | kormoc: | oh, ati doesn't support overscan iirc |
| [01:26:56] | kazan: | bah |
| [01:27:02] | kazan: | so how do i fine tune the damn display size |
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| [01:28:55] | kormoc: | donno, and bbl |
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| [01:29:50] | Beirdo: | my ATI does overscan just fine |
| [01:29:59] | Beirdo: | edit your x config file |
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| [01:32:55] | kazan: | k |
| [01:32:57] | kazan: | what options? |
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| [01:35:03] | kazan: | i'm running 800x600 – options – TVOutput=NSTC,TVStandard=NTSC,TVOutFormat=SVIDEO, OpenGLOVerlay=off,VideoOverlay=on,MonitorLayout=NONE,STVC,NoTV=no |
| [01:36:34] | kazan: | found something in the mailing list archive to try |
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| [01:46:41] | jchillerup: | http://eu.shuttle.com/dk/DesktopDefault.aspx/ . . . _read-10151/ |
| [01:46:48] | jchillerup: | Would that computer be suitable for MythTV |
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| [01:50:34] | kormoc: | jchillerup, why wouldn't it be? |
| [01:50:43] | jchillerup: | Hardware (in)compatibility |
| [01:50:47] | nick125: | hey..I'm having a slight issue with setting mythtv up on gentoo, it seems the mysql schema is missing the mythconverg.settings table |
| [01:50:48] | jchillerup: | I'd put in a PVR-500 |
| [01:51:43] | nick125: | and it looks like mythconverg.keybindings is also missing |
| [01:52:34] | nick125: | should the mysql schema for mythtv only be 6 lines long? o.0 |
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| [01:55:40] | kazan: | that's not the schema |
| [01:55:42] | kazan: | mc.sql is |
| [01:55:49] | kazan: | you're looking at the stuff that sets up the permissions |
| [01:56:10] | nick125: | I'm looking at mc.sql.. |
| [01:56:23] | nick125: | /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [01:56:37] | nick125: | it creates a database, but, doesn't add any tables to it |
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| [01:59:34] | kazan: | that's odd |
| [01:59:38] | kazan: | oh wait... hrm |
| [01:59:50] | kazan: | i think mythsetup or backend creates the tables on first-run |
| [01:59:54] | kazan: | brb |
| [02:01:07] | nick125: | yeah..it works now..wtf |
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| [02:08:31] | kazan: | what's a "Good" bitrate for MPEG4 |
| [02:08:48] | kazan: | i'm more storage concerned than quality concerned overall |
| [02:09:43] | kormoc: | I liked using 700 when I had a bttv card |
| [02:09:55] | kazan: | k |
| [02:09:59] | kormoc: | but my bttv card was really crappy |
| [02:10:06] | kazan: | my bttv card is crappy too |
| [02:10:12] | kazan: | were you going straight into mpeg4 |
| [02:10:19] | kazan: | or RTJpeg then mpeg4 transcode? |
| [02:10:19] | kormoc: | and thus I never full screened the videos and they were just passable |
| [02:10:25] | kormoc: | mpeg4 direct |
| [02:10:37] | ** nick125 wonders where his tv tuner card is..(theres /dev/v4l/video0, /dev/v4l/video24, and /dev/v4l/video32 (i have a webcam too thats V4L)).. ** | |
| [02:10:42] | kazan: | how much CPU would that eat on a Semprom 2500+ (3500 bogomips) |
| [02:10:45] | kormoc: | kazan, tho, let me tell you, a pvr 150 would be much better. |
| [02:10:53] | kormoc: | nick125, video0 likely |
| [02:11:00] | xris: | kazan: the "quality" sliders have as much impact on bitrate as the bitrate slider do, too |
| [02:11:01] | kazan: | i have a pvr-500 coming |
| [02:11:03] | kormoc: | kazan, on my 2.4 ghz p4, it was using about 30% or so |
| [02:11:16] | kazan: | xris: got some recommendations? |
| [02:11:27] | kazan: | kormoc: what's your bogomip number |
| [02:11:37] | kormoc: | on the p4? uhh |
| [02:11:43] | ** kazan cannot use Intel junk as reference performance he hasn't owned one since they came out with the p4 ** | |
| [02:11:51] | xris: | kazan: play with it until you get what you like — that's the best I can say |
| [02:11:53] | kazan: | (P3 was good, P4 sucks and AMD got better) |
| [02:12:03] | kormoc: | kazan, 4806.79 for each proc |
| [02:12:12] | kazan: | ah |
| [02:12:18] | kazan: | bit more than what i have :P |
| [02:12:32] | kazan: | how many meg/hour is the video coming out of mpeg2? |
| [02:12:38] | kormoc: | kazan, bogomips are totally meaningless tho :P |
| [02:12:54] | kormoc: | they are just how many no-ops a proc can run in a second. |
| [02:13:15] | kazan: | aye |
| [02:13:20] | kormoc: | infact the name bogomip stands for bogus mips |
| [02:13:45] | kazan: | i know |
| [02:13:59] | kormoc: | kk |
| [02:14:39] | kazan: | afk now to clean up all my computer stuff strewn about the house |
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| [02:18:24] | ** nick125 goes a big wtf ** | |
| [02:18:25] | nick125: | 2006-04–11 20:17:47.644 RingBuf(/mnt/store/1002_20060411201747.mpg): Invalid file (fd 14) when opening '/mnt/store/1002_20060411201747.mpg'. 12 retries remaining. |
| [02:19:03] | jerky_2: | i have transcoding turned on on one of my recurring recordings, i have it set to transcode to low quality automatically but it doesn't appear to be doing anything. any ideas what i'm missing? |
| [02:21:41] | nick125: | any ideas? |
| [02:22:36] | jerky_2: | nick125, is your backend running properly? filesystem still in read-write mode? video device still there? |
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| [02:23:50] | jerky_2: | nick125_, is your backend running properly? filesystem still in read-write mode? video device still there? |
| [02:24:52] | jerky_2: | i have another issue, i have out of date information in my database and i get frequent messages on the backend like "AutoExpire: ERROR, File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed.". is there a way to automatically rebuild my database to get rid of files that are no longer around? |
| [02:25:00] | nick125_: | backend started fine, can read and write from /mnt/store, and the video device is still there.. |
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| [02:38:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer- Hey – I was looking at the channel logs and saw that you didn't like the fact the I've got FIOS and you dont... sorry! ;-) |
| [02:39:42] | mustangsal: | How do you like FIOS? Any issues? |
| [02:41:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | mustangsal: I Love FIOS... The only issue I had so far was some intermittent service issues when I tried to take their router out of the equation. It seemed to work fine, but has periodic issues. I put their router back in, and everything's been perfect. |
| [02:41:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | mustangsal: I've had it since November BTW — I was one of the first to have it in my area... |
| [02:42:14] | mustangsal: | I'd love the extra speed, but having to use their router kind of cheeses me. Do you have access to the router's config? |
| [02:42:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | yes. |
| [02:42:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | I ended up just setting it up to 'dmz' to my router... That way all my settings in my router were preserved when using their router in-between. |
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| [02:43:29] | mustangsal: | ah ok thats cool... I run a smoothwall, and don't want to loose the features... I guess that would work well |
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| [02:45:59] | mustangsal: | Has anyone seen mplayer error out with a "couldn't open x11 display"? |
| [02:46:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | mustangsal: I've only seen that when I try to run mplayer over a remote shell... (not x...) |
| [02:47:45] | kormoc: | or when I am a different user then the one running X |
| [02:48:35] | mustangsal: | hrm... I'll have to check that out |
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| [02:57:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Ever work out your wireless dilemma? |
| [03:00:19] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, this AP that I'm borrowing from xris worked quite nice, but my mythbox's power supply died, and it's in RMA right now :) |
| [03:00:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: ick... Did you at least have another supply to use in the mean time? |
| [03:01:12] | kormoc: | Nope, and it was a mini-atx case/ps/motherboard combo, so it all had to go back |
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| [03:03:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Yuck. Was the PS defective, or did you overload it? |
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| [03:03:54] | kormoc: | it was a generic 270 watt one, running a 6200, m179, a 200 gb hard drive, 256 megs of ram, and a 2.13 ghz celeron. I think that all should have fit in 270 watts, so I just hope it was a bad supply |
| [03:04:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Humm... Seems like 270 would have been fine for that. Your HDD survived, right? |
| [03:04:54] | kazan: | i have 1 transcode job going, and 1 recording job going (bttv card straight to mpeg4) load is 1.9/1.58/1.23 |
| [03:05:00] | kazan: | recording job started 4 minutes ago |
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| [03:05:05] | kazan: | this sound like a reasonable load? |
| [03:05:23] | kazan: | (mythbackend ~1/3 of cpu time, mythtranscode ~ 2/3rd – nice 17) |
| [03:05:47] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, yeah, everything survived other then the PS |
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| [03:06:23] | kormoc: | kazan, for what you're interested in, load isn't really important, check the percentage of cpu used up |
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| [03:08:04] | kazan: | CPU(s): 34.7% us |
| [03:08:07] | kazan: | that's from TOP |
| [03:08:12] | kormoc: | yeah, you're fine |
| [03:08:25] | kazan: | so i'm only using 1/3rd of my cpu to transcode and record at the same time? |
| [03:08:28] | kazan: | nice :D |
| [03:08:47] | kormoc: | you see, load is just how many threads tring to use the cpu at a time, but each thread might not use up that much power in a realtime system, like myth |
| [03:08:55] | kazan: | aye |
| [03:09:12] | kazan: | mythtranscode is rather "ungreedy" when it comes to the cpu |
| [03:09:24] | xris: | anyone here with an ipod want to test something for me? |
| [03:09:28] | kazan: | it's using 2/3rd of the utilized CPU time |
| [03:09:35] | kazan: | but only 1/3 total cpu usage |
| [03:09:39] | kazan: | ok back to cleaning |
| [03:09:44] | kormoc: | Yeah, it's designed to, as how sucky would it be for a already recorded show to screw up a recording in progress :P |
| [03:09:46] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [03:09:48] | kazan: | cleaning out some of the hardware museum too |
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| [03:10:02] | kormoc: | kazan, feel free to send any 320 gig drives my way ;) |
| [03:10:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: I've got an ipod, but not currently setup on my Myth boxes, just windoze.. does that matter? |
| [03:10:27] | xris: | J-e-f-f-A: testing new ipod exporter for nuvexport... http://forevermore.net/files/h264_test.mp4 |
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| [03:10:35] | xris: | I can't seem to play it in linux |
| [03:10:51] | xris: | oh, mplayer does, cool |
| [03:11:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: — So do you still need me to check? |
| [03:11:15] | xris: | J-e-f-f-A: sure, would be good for compatibility test |
| [03:11:20] | xris: | should have said "ipod video".. heh |
| [03:11:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: Oops... Don't have a ipod video (yet!)... ;-) |
| [03:12:15] | xris: | np. me, neither |
| [03:12:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: So you're testing a new 'ipod video' exporter for myth, eh? Looks like I'll have to add one to the 'wish list' then!!! |
| [03:12:52] | xris: | heh |
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| [03:13:10] | xris: | well, there is one already.. I just want to get it working with h264 for better quality/meg |
| [03:14:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | xris: I still think it's cool. ;-) |
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| [03:16:29] | AngryElf: | how can i correct a channel offset problem? |
| [03:16:47] | mchou: | AngryElf: are you a bot?? |
| [03:17:10] | mchou: | AngryElf: you've been asking the same thing for days |
| [03:18:22] | AngryElf: | yea, nobody answered, and i spend hours on the v4l mailing list |
| [03:18:24] | AngryElf: | so i'm back |
| [03:18:33] | AngryElf: | and it was last night, so maybe a day now, if you're counting |
| [03:20:23] | AngryElf: | i've discovered it comes down to my tv card not being recognized correctly, and that's confirmed with lspci, but i've no idea how to fix it |
| [03:20:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf: Sounds like you need to manually specify the tuner type. I haven't had any issues with my system (although the only tuner I use is the HD3000), but maybe that will give you a direction to head... |
| [03:21:25] | AngryElf: | yea, i dont know how to do that :( |
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| [03:22:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf: What is your tv card? |
| [03:22:30] | AngryElf: | pvr 350 |
| [03:22:35] | SlicerDicer-: | J-e-f-f-A: I was messing with you :) |
| [03:22:48] | SlicerDicer-: | J-e-f-f-A: I got near your speeds right now without fios no worries |
| [03:22:55] | SlicerDicer-: | 12/1 for me |
| [03:23:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer- I know... ;-) I didn't see the initial original message 'cause I was trying to switch my nick and got all blown out of the water... |
| [03:23:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | ;-) |
| [03:23:25] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [03:23:26] | Anduin: | AngryElf: Look at the tuner module param. |
| [03:24:56] | AngryElf: | Anduin, what do you mean by that? the char-major-81 aliases? |
| [03:25:05] | AngryElf: | if so, they're correct |
| [03:25:11] | Anduin: | AngryElf: No, I mean the ivtv module. |
| [03:25:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf: Humm... Have you tried searching the myth mailing list archives? There's got to be something there... http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=mythtv |
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| [03:25:33] | AngryElf: | there's plenty |
| [03:25:37] | AngryElf: | they all point to v4l |
| [03:25:43] | AngryElf: | but their mailing list is unhelpful |
| [03:26:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | SlicerDicer- Were you the guy getting the antenna from the neighbor for hd? |
| [03:26:13] | AngryElf: | and as far as i can tell v4l is loaded, at least it's in the module section in xorg.conf |
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| [03:26:59] | AngryElf: | lspci -v displays PVR-350, so maybe it's not the tuner being correctly recognized |
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| [03:28:04] | AngryElf: | the myth docs specifically call this a tuner recognition problem, and point to v4l |
| [03:28:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf – Well, it knows that it's a PVR-350. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's sending the correct frequencies for the tuner to tune into. |
| [03:28:16] | AngryElf: | however, my problem is not what's described in the docs |
| [03:28:23] | AngryElf: | it's very similar, but not quite the same |
| [03:29:08] | AngryElf: | when i'm watching live tv and i tune to ch15, i get 15, but the file that is written is 1014 |
| [03:29:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf – Check your mythtvsetup for that source — If the 'channel frequency table' is set to anything other than 'default', try setting it to default. |
| [03:29:15] | kormoc: | did you try forcing tuner types? |
| [03:29:32] | AngryElf: | forcing where? |
| [03:29:39] | kormoc: | the tuner type ivtv loads |
| [03:29:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf : So it tunes the correct channel, but you don't like the 'channel id' of the filename? |
| [03:29:55] | Anduin: | AngryElf: So your whole complaint is really only about chanid?! |
| [03:30:07] | AngryElf: | Anduin, yes i'm bothering you all about that |
| [03:30:15] | kormoc: | AngryElf, just change it in the DB |
| [03:30:27] | kormoc: | UPDATE channels SET chan_id = chan_id + 1; |
| [03:30:34] | kormoc: | replacing chan_id with the right field name |
| [03:31:20] | AngryElf: | you sure that's going to work? one part of myth is recognizing channels correctly, another part is not |
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| [03:31:27] | AngryElf: | updating them across the board is probably not a great idea |
| [03:31:41] | kormoc: | doubtful it would really matter |
| [03:31:50] | kormoc: | if it does, just subtract one again |
| [03:31:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf: Just curious why you 'care' about the channelid? That's a unique number assigned by myth, so that if you have two channels with the same number by chance, it can keep track of which of the two it was recorded from. |
| [03:32:17] | kormoc: | AngryElf, btw, my chanid's are off by one as well |
| [03:32:23] | AngryElf: | recording schedules of type "record this at any time on channel X" do not work for me |
| [03:32:26] | kormoc: | AngryElf, largly due to them starting at 1 rathern then 2 |
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| [03:33:22] | AngryElf: | so i had to set it to "record at any time on any channel" and as a result i think about 5 episodes of 24 from season 2 are going to be recorded |
| [03:33:48] | kormoc: | the chanid is totally meaningless tho |
| [03:33:57] | kormoc: | if it was, it wouldn't be +1000 eather |
| [03:34:13] | kormoc: | and it's +1000 for each channel lineup you have |
| [03:34:14] | Anduin: | AngryElf: That "bug" makes no sense. |
| [03:34:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf – Ok, but the 'channel ID' and the 'real' channel are different. Myth uses the 'channel id' internally, and 'transposes' it to your 'real' channel for you. |
| [03:34:48] | AngryElf: | J-e-f-f-A, something like that |
| [03:35:05] | kormoc: | right, again, it's completely meaningless as long as it's unique |
| [03:35:28] | kormoc: | AngryElf, or if you perfer, just chan_id = chan_id – 999 to have it set to the real channels, myth won't care |
| [03:35:37] | AngryElf: | urgh |
| [03:36:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf — I'm looking how I've got my '24' schedules setup right now.... brb... |
| [03:36:27] | AngryElf: | J-e-f-f-A, this isnt' specific to 24 |
| [03:36:39] | AngryElf: | kormoc, i see what you're saying, but myth is interpretting the channels differently in different places |
| [03:37:14] | kormoc: | AngryElf, have you tried wiping the entire channel table and recreating it? |
| [03:37:35] | Anduin: | AngryElf: Are these old record rules? Like before you deleted the channel entries and refetched? |
| [03:37:49] | AngryElf: | kormoc, i wouldn't know how |
| [03:37:59] | AngryElf: | Anduin, i've never deleted the channel entries |
| [03:39:50] | AngryElf: | kormoc, how do i delete all the info in that one table? |
| [03:39:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf – Ok... so it probably won't help, but I've got 24 setup to record in both HD and Standard definition, and each schedule is setup with 'Duplicate Check method: NONE", and "Always record on channel ##", with one rule for HD (251), and one for SD (25)... |
| [03:40:50] | AngryElf: | J-e-f-f-A, this isn't specific to 24, but with my one tuner, it's basically the same |
| [03:40:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf: I believe you can do so when running 'mythtvsetup', and answering 'yes' to the 'clear all channel information'... (You'll have to shut down your backend before doing this, and re-run mythfilldatabase) |
| [03:41:14] | AngryElf: | err yea |
| [03:41:17] | AngryElf: | i'll try that |
| [03:43:33] | kormoc: | yeah, that's how :) |
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| [03:46:09] | polpak: | I have a Hauppauge pvr 150 do I need to upgrade my firmware for ivtv to work properly? |
| [03:46:18] | kormoc: | donno |
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| [03:46:41] | kormoc: | polpak, check the ivtv website, and likely just get the recommended firmware version |
| [03:46:58] | polpak: | url? |
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| [03:47:10] | Beirdo: | www.google.com? |
| [03:47:12] | kormoc: | polpak, www.google.com |
| [03:47:33] | Beirdo: | beat ya |
| [03:47:56] | ShockValue: | hi all, is there some way to make sure that if a show is broadcast in both hi-def, and regular, that it will record the HD one, even if it's a few days later? |
| [03:48:30] | AngryElf: | kormoc, that didn't work |
| [03:48:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: What I did was to turn off the 'duplicate' checking for both the SD and HD programs... |
| [03:49:17] | ShockValue: | hmm.. where is that located? |
| [03:49:50] | AngryElf: | ShockValue, in the recording schedule for the show |
| [03:50:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: go into your recording schedule for the program — I use Mythweb as it's point & Click easy, but you can do it from a frontend too... |
| [03:50:54] | ShockValue: | yeah, i have mythweb open |
| [03:50:57] | AngryElf: | how is it possible that the frontend shows that i'm watching channel X but the file that is produced is X-1, and for all practical purposes (i.e. scheduling recordings) myth thinks the channel is X-1? |
| [03:51:47] | ShockValue: | J-e-f-f-A: "Duplicate check method" = none? Will that mean it will record the same show over and over if it's aired 5 times that week? |
| [03:52:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | AngryElf – Are you sure that myth thinks it's x-1? When you go to your 'recorded programs' screen, doesn't it display the proper channel in the program detail? |
| [03:52:48] | AngryElf: | that page is showing the correct #, but then why doesn't "record this at any time on chan X" work? |
| [03:53:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: Yeah, I suppose it would. But the issue here is that you're chosing to record the same program in both Standard Definition and High Definition, which Myth doesn't differentiate between (at least not yet...), so the first one to get recorded will be the one you'll have... |
| [03:53:03] | Anduin: | AngryElf: It will. |
| [03:53:18] | AngryElf: | Anduin, it doesn't |
| [03:53:44] | Anduin: | AngryElf: Have you tried to make a new one to see? |
| [03:53:51] | ShockValue: | meh.. well i have enough room.. i guess deleting the extras isn't that big of a deal |
| [03:54:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: Both programs have the same title & detail info, so as far as myth is concerned, they're the same program. |
| [03:54:25] | ** AngryElf isn't a complete foool ** | |
| [03:55:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: I've got 24 setup this way now, recording on channel '25' in Standard Definition and 251 (25.1) in digital... Works great... (I don't record much HD yet as I only have one frontend capable of playing 1080i right now...) |
| [03:56:15] | ShockValue: | oh, speaking of 25.1 vs 251.. my HD channels are labeld 5_1 and 9_5 etc.. which i cant get to on my remote.. how do i fix that? |
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| [03:59:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: That was a little bit of a pain for me... I may have done it the 'long' way, but I had to edit the channels with mythweb, deleting the "_", so 2_1 became 21, 44_1 became 441, etc. (There are no conflicts with my sattelite channels, so they all worked out ok like this). But then the next time mythfilldatabase ran, the 2_2 channel 'came back' again. So then I just made the "_" |
| [04:00:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | ... channels non-visable in mythweb. |
| [04:00:28] | ShockValue: | hm |
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| [04:01:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: What basically happens then is that the channel displayed by myth is the ones that you changed, and the zap2it data is downloaded for 2_2, etc. But myth references the listings by the xmltvid, so myth will show you the proper listing for 2_2 as channel 22... |
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| [04:01:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: did I make any sense? |
| [04:02:07] | ShockValue: | i think so.. im looking at it in mythweb |
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| [04:03:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: so for example, my 'zap2it' entry for channel 2_1 reads: |
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| [04:03:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: Sourceid 1, xmltvid 28055, channum 2_1, callsign WGBHDT, name WGBHDT (WGBH-DT), freqid 19–1 |
| [04:04:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: (and it's hidden [non-visible]) |
| [04:04:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: and my 'manual' entry for channel '22' (what's displayed by myth) reads: |
| [04:04:45] | Chicago: | Anybody know why it would take mysqld running at 100% for the last 6 hours to only be 6% done updating my video database? |
| [04:05:31] | kormoc: | Chicago, you have a lot of videos and a slow database server? |
| [04:05:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: Sourceid 1, xmltvid 28055, channum 21, callsign WGBHDT, name WGBHDT (WGBH-DT), freqid 19–1, visible CHECKED |
| [04:05:53] | ShockValue: | i see |
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| [04:06:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: This is because every time you update from zap2it (via mythfilldatabase), it knows the HD channels as CH_SUB, and will continue to put that data into myth as such. |
| [04:06:50] | Chicago: | Well, my database server is my backend/frontend... it's a 2.2GHz P4 w/ a gig of RAM.. I was thinking along the lines of a have my.cnf setup to be a baby server... was hoping beefing up the my.cnf would help... any suggestions? |
| [04:07:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue: So you have to 'hide' these or they'll keep coming back. By creating new channel numbers, and referencing the 'xmltvid' corresponding to the 'real' channel from zap2it, the listings will continue to get updated properly... |
| [04:08:38] | ShockValue: | thats sounding pretty complicated... im thinking the "channel guide -> HD channel" might just be easier to deal with |
| [04:09:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | ShockValue — that works too. I guess it's |
| [04:09:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | oops... 'nicer on the eyes' too... But you can't tune directly via the remote though... |
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| [04:10:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | Although... I wonder if you could perhaps instead hide the channels such as "22", and make "2_2" visible, and still tune to 2_2 by typing "22" on the remote... ;-) |
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| [04:14:27] | kazan: | anyone here used MythBurn? |
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| [04:20:31] | ** xris kicks ffmpeg for being stupid ** | |
| [04:22:11] | kazan: | ? |
| [04:22:19] | kazan: | what did it do? |
| [04:24:25] | kormoc: | likely change a api |
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| [04:26:09] | xris: | kazan: the multipass logfile location doesn't work for h264 encoding. |
| [04:26:29] | kazan: | ah |
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| [04:28:08] | xris: | not bad for speed, though... 22 minutes to encode a half-hour show in multipass |
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| [04:33:39] | Chicago: | kazan: mythburn let you arrange recordings onto a dvd to burn. |
| [04:38:50] | kazan: | aye |
| [04:39:01] | kazan: | and i see it doesn't bother to actually transcode them into mpeg2 for you |
| [04:39:08] | kazan: | has a long list of annoying prereqs |
| [04:39:11] | kazan: | no-spank-you |
| [04:39:19] | kazan: | useful export plugins WRU |
| [04:39:54] | kormoc: | just use nuvexport |
| [04:43:13] | xris: | looks like the h264 export works |
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| [05:07:26] | stevenm: | Hello. Myth occasionally crashes. Ie, causes a kernel crash. Bad page state, mythbackend. Got a backtrace here. Does anyone care? |
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| [05:12:03] | hd420: | before i purchase a capture card and large hard drive for my pc, does mythtv work with the DirectTV R15 or not? |
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| [05:12:52] | kormoc: | if it's more of a question of if myth can control a external tuner for directtv, yes, via a ir dongle. |
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| [05:13:51] | hd420: | kormoc: do you know if it can control this specific directtv setup? |
| [05:14:17] | kormoc: | wouldn't know why not. it's just gonna emulate a remote. |
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| [05:39:48] | Chicago: | What's the right way to make a non root user get realtime priority for watching live tv? |
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| [05:40:24] | hd420: | Chicago: use root? :) |
| [05:40:45] | Chicago: | hd420: eh... that will screw things up. |
| [05:41:31] | Chicago: | I'm using a specific user to test the SVN code... and I already have mythtv emerged with gentoo also... so the new user has a specific LD_LIBRARY_PATH var set... and root doesn't... so how can I make the user with the different LD_LIBRARY_PATH run ./mythfrontend as root? or with suid? |
| [05:42:07] | Cougar: | you can make it suid of course |
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| [05:42:30] | Cougar: | or use root to start it |
| [05:42:52] | Cougar: | you can also check capabilities but I'm not sure does it help you here |
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| [05:42:58] | Chicago: | Cougar: i have never used suid with an app before.. how do I do it |
| [05:43:30] | WAR_CH|LD: | can anyone think of a reason, why in gods name that the backend service on a slave box always gives me mysql errors saying it can not connect to it, but as far as I cna tell the master one is 100%? |
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| [05:43:45] | Cougar: | chown root yourprogram; chmod u+s yourprogram |
| [05:44:09] | Agrajag-: | WAR_CH|LD: maybe it's playing tricks on you for a laugh |
| [05:44:25] | Cougar: | WAR_CH|LD: no access to your mysql server for slave box |
| [05:44:29] | achew22: | When I run mythfrontend I get an error "mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0: undefined symbol: png_encoder" how do I fix it? |
| [05:44:32] | Chicago: | cougar: so chmod u+s mythfrontend sets the program suid? |
| [05:44:40] | laga: | Chicago: the method described by cougar doesn't work work with all kernels. check the mythtv docs for other ways to enable realtime priority if you get stuck with that one |
| [05:45:02] | Cougar: | Chicago: yes |
| [05:45:28] | hd420: | does mythtv support video podcasting? |
| [05:45:39] | WAR_CH|LD: | Cougar, then why the errors? |
| [05:46:19] | WAR_CH|LD: | I can show you one if you wish, i wont dump it in # thou |
| [05:46:21] | Cougar: | WAR_CH|LD: to show you that it can't connect ;-) |
| [05:46:42] | WAR_CH|LD: | but the master one is there, and it's 100% |
| [05:46:44] | Chicago: | laga: cougar: what's the tradeoff...? doing it in the chmod u+s vs. doing it some other way? |
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| [05:46:53] | WAR_CH|LD: | I can ping it, it's just the mythslave backend been a shit |
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| [05:47:20] | WAR_CH|LD: | sorry, i'm a little frustrated |
| [05:47:23] | achew22: | hello again.... |
| [05:47:41] | Cougar: | WAR_CH|LD: ping doesn't show that you have access to mysql database |
| [05:48:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | yea, but it shows that the machine in question is there and is functioning |
| [05:48:03] | achew22: | When I run mythfrontend I get an error "mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0: undefined symbol: png_encoder" how do I fix it? anyone got any ideas? |
| [05:48:12] | laga: | Chicago: rtfm :) |
| [05:48:18] | Chicago: | ty |
| [05:48:21] | Chicago: | :) |
| [05:48:45] | laga: | Chicago: sorry, heh. i've just gotten up and i need to run soon, so.. you're better off rading it yourself :P |
| [05:48:58] | Chicago: | I'm lookin for it :) |
| [05:49:05] | WAR_CH|LD: | is there any reason to why say the mysql db on the master would cancel, or not allow connections? |
| [05:49:13] | WAR_CH|LD: | some weird default setting? |
| [05:49:22] | achew22: | yes |
| [05:49:33] | achew22: | its bound to localhost is my guess |
| [05:49:38] | achew22: | go to /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| [05:49:46] | achew22: | look for the word bind in a setting |
| [05:49:48] | achew22: | comment it out |
| [05:49:58] | achew22: | then type /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
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| [05:50:02] | achew22: | as root |
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| [05:50:35] | Cougar: | achew22: your libmythavcodec and mythfrontend are different versions |
| [05:50:54] | achew22: | really? |
| [05:50:56] | WAR_CH|LD: | can not find the word bind |
| [05:51:03] | achew22: | one seccond... |
| [05:51:23] | achew22: | bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| [05:51:23] | Cougar: | WAR_CH|LD: it may be also that you can connect to the db but don't have access to this database |
| [05:51:24] | WAR_CH|LD: | k |
| [05:51:41] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, may I add that it does work.. like sometimes. |
| [05:51:44] | achew22: | that needs to be #bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| [05:51:45] | WAR_CH|LD: | it just like, drops |
| [05:51:55] | WAR_CH|LD: | ok, thats not even in my my.conf achew22 |
| [05:52:04] | achew22: | then its not a bind issue |
| [05:52:21] | achew22: | Cougar, is there an uninstall script? |
| [05:52:37] | WAR_CH|LD: | by default that bind-address has no value |
| [05:52:38] | Cougar: | achew22: where did you get this install? |
| [05:52:42] | achew22: | svn |
| [05:52:51] | achew22: | .19 fixes |
| [05:52:51] | WAR_CH|LD: | like, i've had this slave/master setup going for a while now |
| [05:53:01] | WAR_CH|LD: | i'ts just that sometimes, I get all these mysql errors and the salve locks up |
| [05:53:07] | WAR_CH|LD: | and kills all my recordings for that box |
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| [05:53:12] | achew22: | can we get a few samples of the errors? |
| [05:53:20] | WAR_CH|LD: | sure, yo want me to dump in #? |
| [05:53:30] | achew22: | no — I want you to pastebin... like the topic says |
| [05:54:19] | WAR_CH|LD: | ok, i'll get you a couple |
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| [05:55:25] | achew22: | Cougar, how did oyu know that it was a different version? |
| [05:56:12] | achew22: | WAR_CH|LD, by chance did you look at the my.cnf file on the slave or the master? |
| [05:57:17] | WAR_CH|LD: | http://pastebin.ca/49130 |
| [05:57:23] | WAR_CH|LD: | on the master achew22 |
| [05:57:26] | achew22: | good |
| [05:57:38] | achew22: | its not unheard of for people to do that kind of a thing |
| [05:58:01] | achew22: | you only have 1 mysql error — not loads... |
| [05:58:02] | Cougar: | achew22: looks like because it is not possible that some symbol missing if they are mopiled together |
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| [05:58:20] | WAR_CH|LD: | well, I get more than one. :) |
| [05:58:25] | Cougar: | s/mopiled/compiled |
| [05:58:26] | WAR_CH|LD: | all basically saying the same thing |
| [05:58:36] | achew22: | the error is that you can't connect to the db |
| [05:58:42] | WAR_CH|LD: | but, I put in some extra bits in tehre when it is normally functioning so you dont think i'm stupid |
| [05:58:45] | WAR_CH|LD: | yea, I know. |
| [05:58:55] | WAR_CH|LD: | I wanna know why it ain't, so I can fix it |
| [05:59:01] | achew22: | Cougar, lets see if this fixes it — I have recompiled 2 times to see if that would fix it but no luck of that |
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| [05:59:09] | WAR_CH|LD: | eg. I have checked al lteh standard type "connection" problems. |
| [05:59:17] | achew22: | okay |
| [05:59:20] | achew22: | what box are you at? |
| [05:59:21] | WAR_CH|LD: | but, the video from the master gets accessed a lot for other reasons |
| [05:59:34] | WAR_CH|LD: | i'm sshed into both atm |
| [05:59:53] | WAR_CH|LD: | so network connectivity is 100% for it |
| [06:00:12] | achew22: | WAR_CH|LD, in the slave type mysql -h 192.168.16.49 -u $(mythtvusername) -p |
| [06:01:05] | WAR_CH|LD: | whats hte default login? I have not changed form the defaulrts |
| [06:01:23] | kormoc: | mythtv and mythtv |
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| [06:03:14] | achew22: | YAY kormoc is back |
| [06:03:29] | kormoc: | I was gone? |
| [06:03:30] | WAR_CH|LD: | ok, done |
| [06:03:34] | achew22: | just not talking |
| [06:03:43] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff |
| [06:03:45] | WAR_CH|LD: | achew22, look good. |
| [06:03:52] | achew22: | WAR_CH|LD, this is kormoc if you didn't know — kormoc is awesome... he is the reason waldo is hiding |
| [06:03:56] | achew22: | hideing* |
| [06:04:12] | achew22: | WAR_CH|LD, it connected... |
| [06:04:15] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah |
| [06:04:19] | kormoc: | heh, thanks, I think |
| [06:04:55] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, so bacially your remote frontend can't connect to the backend's mysql server? |
| [06:04:56] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, I jus tgot it to display the tables |
| [06:05:06] | achew22: | WAR_CH|LD, I have no idea then.... is your mythfrontend really pointed at the mysql database? |
| [06:05:10] | WAR_CH|LD: | remote frontend and backend and only sometimes. :( |
| [06:05:28] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, you did the needed second grants to allow remote access to the mythtv user? |
| [06:05:30] | WAR_CH|LD: | yae, because most of the time it work.s :) |
| [06:05:34] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [06:05:36] | WAR_CH|LD: | yep |
| [06:05:45] | WAR_CH|LD: | like, I have this working. |
| [06:05:53] | kormoc: | when it doesn't work, what's the error? |
| [06:05:59] | WAR_CH|LD: | 80% of the time, it's just sometimes this materialises and as you can tell. it just doens't make sense |
| [06:06:16] | WAR_CH|LD: | what I gave you in that log |
| [06:06:26] | achew22: | the pastebin is http://pastebin.ca/49130 |
| [06:06:43] | achew22: | sorry--- accidentily hit ctrl-b then ctrl-v |
| [06:06:46] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah |
| [06:06:56] | WAR_CH|LD: | like, I wil lget a whole lit of those errors |
| [06:06:59] | ** kormoc ponders ** | |
| [06:07:23] | achew22: | could he have the wrong port? |
| [06:07:32] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, ps ax | grep mysql | grep safe |
| [06:07:39] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, do you get any matches? |
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| [06:10:35] | achew22: | lets see how wow runs in linux... |
| [06:10:53] | mchou: | wow runs natively on linux? |
| [06:11:02] | kormoc: | Cedega and wine both run it |
| [06:11:18] | mchou: | bah. Need native |
| [06:11:27] | mchou: | none of that emulation junk |
| [06:11:29] | achew22: | not going to happen any time soon... |
| [06:11:46] | WAR_CH|LD: | no |
| [06:11:56] | WAR_CH|LD: | on the lsave |
| [06:11:58] | achew22: | but wine made my computers resolution cry.... |
| [06:12:04] | WAR_CH|LD: | on the master I do |
| [06:12:15] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, kk, that's good, and explains some things |
| [06:12:22] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, mysqld_safe, right? |
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| [06:12:35] | WAR_CH|LD: | ./usr/bin/mysqld_safe |
| [06:12:37] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah. :) |
| [06:12:48] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, okay, that's a script that will relaunch mysql on a crash |
| [06:13:00] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, so basically, your mysql is crashing and just getting restarted |
| [06:13:15] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, now, for why it's crashing, perhaps there's something in /var/log/mysql/ ? |
| [06:13:24] | WAR_CH|LD: | but there are no errors anywhere in messages or mysqld.log |
| [06:13:39] | WAR_CH|LD: | liek the log file in /var/log/mysql is empty. |
| [06:13:49] | kormoc: | right, but if it's crashing, it might never get to log it |
| [06:13:53] | kormoc: | what version of mysql? |
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| [06:15:25] | WAR_CH|LD: | mysqld Ver 4.0.21 for suse-linux on i686 (Source distribution) |
| [06:15:43] | kormoc: | you by chance are not running it on a 64 bit machine, are you? |
| [06:15:49] | WAR_CH|LD: | no |
| [06:15:52] | kormoc: | kk |
| [06:16:05] | WAR_CH|LD: | it might be a AMD64 chip |
| [06:16:07] | kormoc: | there was a few 64 bit improvements in the 5.x line |
| [06:16:10] | WAR_CH|LD: | but it's all i686 |
| [06:16:22] | kormoc: | hrm, shouldn't matter then |
| [06:16:26] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah |
| [06:16:28] | kormoc: | is there any updates for it? |
| [06:16:39] | WAR_CH|LD: | nah, i've looked |
| [06:16:49] | WAR_CH|LD: | it's susse 9.2 and it's fully patched up |
| [06:17:10] | kormoc: | Well, what i would recommend is to run mysqld by hand, not background and watch it and see if you can catch it crashing |
| [06:17:25] | achew22: | wow.. that rocks |
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| [06:20:13] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah? ok |
| [06:20:40] | WAR_CH|LD: | thanks for your help kormoc / achew22, really appreciated |
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| [06:20:54] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, no problems, glad to help |
| [06:21:10] | achew22: | yep — if I can i will amlost always help |
| [06:21:18] | achew22: | but right now its 12:21AM on a schoolnight |
| [06:21:22] | achew22: | time to turn on southpark and sleep |
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| [06:21:38] | WAR_CH|LD: | enjoy. :) |
| [06:22:19] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, looks like /usr/sbin/mysqld --console --core-file might be what you want |
| [06:25:35] | WAR_CH|LD: | it's something i'm going to have to pursue tomorrow it looks |
| [06:25:37] | WAR_CH|LD: | thanks again |
| [06:25:45] | WAR_CH|LD: | i'll try and come on tomorrow and give you an update |
| [06:25:47] | kormoc: | kk, g'luck with it |
| [06:25:49] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [06:25:51] | kormoc: | would be cool |
| [06:26:04] | WAR_CH|LD: | just so you know, this is actually a producion machine/setup |
| [06:26:12] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [06:26:13] | WAR_CH|LD: | it's for my client, they record sports for market research |
| [06:26:26] | kormoc: | gotcha |
| [06:26:32] | WAR_CH|LD: | yea, it has 3x hauppauge 500's in the slave and 2x digital ards in the master |
| [06:26:40] | WAR_CH|LD: | with 1.7tb in the master for storage. :) |
| [06:26:45] | WAR_CH|LD: | so it get used A LOT |
| [06:26:54] | kormoc: | well, if this gives nothing, then would be good to enable/check bin logs, and then if that doesn't work, those core files via gdb could help :) |
| [06:26:56] | WAR_CH|LD: | errors in it, mean eI get yelled at by the big boss |
| [06:26:56] | WAR_CH|LD: | lol |
| [06:27:03] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff :) |
| [06:27:52] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, my "mysql" exsperience is limited thou |
| [06:28:02] | WAR_CH|LD: | I thik I got some rading to do tonight |
| [06:28:08] | kormoc: | heh, likely :) |
| [06:28:15] | kormoc: | it's rather easy tho, nothing too complicated |
| [06:28:28] | WAR_CH|LD: | yea, why it's got my stumped, I was trying to find some mysql options |
| [06:28:36] | WAR_CH|LD: | that maybe, killed a connection after a period of time or something |
| [06:28:38] | Chicago: | I'm setting up realtime and want to build in the realtime module since gentoo doesn't have pam v.79... according to the "realtime module" section here http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html .... should I build "default linux capabilities" as a module... or build it into the kernel... if as a module... then what do I emerge to have realtime installed... so that I can do "modprobe realtime gid=18" before running mythfro |
| [06:28:39] | Chicago: | ntend. |
| [06:29:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | #wait_timeout=57600 |
| [06:29:04] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, there are, but that's not the errors you are getting. That would be connection closed, not connection disappeared |
| [06:29:10] | WAR_CH|LD: | was all I found, and as yo can tell I extened it 2x and it did nothing |
| [06:29:18] | WAR_CH|LD: | yea, true. |
| [06:29:27] | WAR_CH|LD: | didn't think of that. |
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| [06:30:25] | WAR_CH|LD: | anyway, I got another client at me. so tomorrow it is |
| [06:30:35] | WAR_CH|LD: | 4:30 in the afternoon here in australia. :P |
| [06:30:36] | ** kormoc nods and waves to WAR_CH|LD ** | |
| [06:30:38] | WAR_CH|LD: | good night man |
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| [06:34:51] | kormoc: | Chicago, uhh, what's wrong with rlimits? |
| [06:35:17] | kormoc: | Chicago, given you're on gentoo, likely your kernel is > 2.6.12, which is the best way to do real time |
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| [06:35:58] | liran: | Juski, you around? |
| [06:36:37] | Chicago: | kormoc: the rlimits method requires PAM version 0.79. On gentoo I only have v.78 I'm running a 2.6.14 kernel. |
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| [06:37:59] | Chicago: | Anybody on Gentoo know if sys-apps/realtime-lsm is the right realtime module? |
| [06:38:42] | kormoc: | ahh, I thought there was a ebuild for gentoo for pam 0.79 |
| [06:38:50] | kormoc: | but it's evendently not done yet |
| [06:40:09] | Chicago: | I noticed... |
| [06:40:15] | kormoc: | Chicago, could very well be, description is "Enable realtime capabilties via a security module." |
| [06:40:40] | Chicago: | do you think I need a module for it...? if I just "built it into the kernel" how would I use it? |
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| [06:41:28] | kormoc: | Yeah, you do, as it's not a offical kernel module |
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| [06:42:29] | Chicago: | that's the part I don't get... if the kernel lets me build it in with *... then why should I compile it in as a module M... so that I have to emerge that realtime-lsm |
| [06:42:48] | kormoc: | ooh, that part you don't need to have as a module |
| [06:42:54] | kormoc: | just the realtime should need to be a module |
| [06:44:08] | Chicago: | confused again.... the "realtime module" section here. http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html has me build in with * "Enable different security models" and build in with M "Default Linux Capabilities"... are you saying the same thing? |
| [06:44:48] | kormoc: | you need to enable different security models, but the default linux capabilities should be fine as a module or built in |
| [06:45:27] | kormoc: | /should be/ is the key, I wouldn't see why it's a problem, as I don't recall I had to when I played with it |
| [06:45:37] | Chicago: | kormoc: k... cause I just built a kernel with "Enable different security models" and "default linux capabilities" built in with a * |
| [06:46:31] | Chicago: | we'll see after the reboot. |
| [06:46:37] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [06:47:26] | Chicago: | brb |
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| [07:04:21] | Juski: | liran: just got up. what's up? |
| [07:09:33] | liran: | Juski: just wanted to update you like I said i would. |
| [07:09:40] | liran: | Juski: by the way good morning :P |
| [07:09:45] | Juski: | morning... |
| [07:09:53] | Juski: | update me about what? |
| [07:10:03] | liran: | Juski: anyway, i have a dvd player here and it does work just fine with the rca cable (the yellow one) |
| [07:10:26] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [07:10:39] | Juski: | right that's good to know |
| [07:10:53] | liran: | yeah, so thats good. ill be sure to test it again with the svideo just cause im interested to know what would happen |
| [07:11:09] | Juski: | proves at least the composite input on the capture card is ok then |
| [07:11:26] | liran: | yeah |
| [07:11:36] | liran: | that yellow rca input is called composite? |
| [07:12:11] | Juski: | yup |
| [07:12:20] | liran: | ok |
| [07:12:39] | liran: | thats so odd how all these formats and inputs are messed up :p |
| [07:16:37] | Juski: | so the reason you got black & white rubbish pictures before was as I suspected – the video standard from the laptop's tv out was probably NTSC – same with the camera you tried |
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| [07:27:10] | liran: | maybe |
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| [07:29:54] | liran: | when im on watching tv mode and i get a feed now... once i click the R button for record it does record but it calls the file 'unknown' |
| [07:30:18] | Juski: | never mind maybe, liran – it's a very plausible explanation. In the past I've found that TV outputs of PCs don't always put out what they're supposed to ;-) |
| [07:30:34] | liran: | hehe |
| [07:30:39] | Juski: | liran: that's because you don't have a program guide for the 'channel' you're recording |
| [07:30:41] | liran: | yeah and i guess *I* had to experience it :) |
| [07:31:41] | liran: | so it will always overwrite the 'unknown' recording? |
| [07:32:09] | Juski: | I dunno – it's expected that you have TV guide information |
| [07:32:26] | Juski: | but you've proved that recording works now |
| [07:32:36] | liran: | yeah it does |
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| [07:33:21] | liran: | how do these program guides work? |
| [07:33:42] | Juski: | mythtv goes on the internet & downloads programme guide data for the channels you have |
| [07:33:43] | liran: | i live in israel and i doubt if the cable/sat tv company are publishing their program guides on the internet |
| [07:34:47] | Juski: | you can use xbtv apparently |
| [07:34:53] | Juski: | sorry TVxb |
| [07:34:59] | Juski: | www.tvxb.com |
| [07:35:43] | Juski: | ooo and there's tv_grab_il aswell |
| [07:36:11] | Juski: | something you'll need to read the mythtv documentation about |
| [07:36:16] | liran: | right |
| [07:36:17] | Juski: | anyway – it's breakfast time here |
| [07:36:39] | liran: | right here too :P |
| [07:36:45] | liran: | thanks for all the help ill go do some reading |
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| [07:59:04] | Rocketeer: | morning. |
| [07:59:17] | Juski: | morning |
| [07:59:30] | Rocketeer: | can i ask here a question? |
| [07:59:38] | Rocketeer: | or is this chit-chat? |
| [07:59:39] | ** Juski hates shopping portal sites & e-commerce sites! bastards! ** | |
| [07:59:47] | Juski: | either, or both, Rocketeer |
| [07:59:56] | Juski: | ask away :) |
| [07:59:57] | Rocketeer: | :-) fine. |
| [08:00:29] | Rocketeer: | okay, it's about my mythtv installation. My card can't lock channels during searching.... It has a signal, but "No Lock" |
| [08:00:38] | Juski: | don't you just hate it when you search google for a company name & all you get is pages & pages of crappy links? ;-) |
| [08:00:44] | Juski: | Rocketeer: oo a DVB card? |
| [08:01:01] | Rocketeer: | DVB-S yeah... on an ubuntu 5.10 installation (mythtv .18 |
| [08:01:19] | Juski: | .18? DVB worked okay in that – especially scanning |
| [08:01:20] | Rocketeer: | SA0299 (Nexus-S) |
| [08:01:56] | Juski: | have you tried dvbscan, the application from linuxtv.org ? |
| [08:01:58] | Rocketeer: | is it essential, that mythfilldb is working before scanning? |
| [08:02:19] | Juski: | Rocketeer: no that isn't essential |
| [08:02:41] | Rocketeer: | well, i tried some programms, and was able to watch tv (xine for example) |
| [08:02:53] | Rocketeer: | and i also used "scan" which found and locked channels. |
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| [08:03:04] | Juski: | what kind of scan were you trying to do in mythtv? |
| [08:03:09] | Rocketeer: | fullscan |
| [08:03:18] | Juski: | the full frequency scanner didn't work as far as I know |
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| [08:03:30] | Rocketeer: | well, good to know.... |
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| [08:03:49] | Juski: | you need to enter some initial tuning details which you can get from a channels.conf file (from dvbscan) |
| [08:04:00] | Juski: | morning stuarta |
| [08:04:03] | Hoxzer: | :) |
| [08:04:08] | stuarta: | morning Juski |
| [08:04:11] | Rocketeer: | okay, and then which scan should i try first? |
| [08:04:30] | Juski: | Rocketeer: erm.. a transport scan (tuned) I think |
| [08:04:41] | Rocketeer: | aye. i will try it later. |
| [08:04:54] | Juski: | or is it 'initial transponder'... god I'm out of touch |
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| [08:05:54] | stuarta: | transport scan (tuned) |
| [08:06:00] | Hoxzer: | I can't write aargh |
| [08:06:05] | Hoxzer: | my hands are shaking |
| [08:06:06] | Rocketeer: | you can. |
| [08:06:14] | Rocketeer: | oh.....stop taking drugs. |
| [08:06:17] | Juski: | Rocketeer: anyway, what's ubuntu doing with 0.18?? 0.19 has been around for ages now |
| [08:06:19] | Hoxzer: | school makes me wake up 7 a.m every day :( |
| [08:06:33] | Rocketeer: | well, they haven't released a package. |
| [08:06:38] | Hoxzer: | only reason I can still act like I'm alive is coffee |
| [08:06:42] | Juski: | STILL?!?! |
| [08:06:52] | Hoxzer: | like cofeine makes you feel alive although you are not |
| [08:06:54] | Rocketeer: | nope. maybe in the next distro.... 6.06. |
| [08:07:05] | stuarta: | just use the debian packages instead |
| [08:07:15] | Juski: | yeh I would do – but I'm still appalled |
| [08:08:03] | Rocketeer: | ok, if you give me a link to a howto, i will use a debian package.... |
| [08:08:27] | ** Juski wonders if www.abarbaccia.org has been updated for 0.19 ** | |
| [08:08:30] | Rocketeer: | as far as i know, i could just download the myth0.19.deb package and install it then manually |
| [08:08:54] | Juski: | http://www.abarbaccia.com/ |
| [08:09:00] | Juski: | not .org it's .com |
| [08:09:00] | Rocketeer: | *down* |
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| [08:09:07] | Juski: | my bad :-/ |
| [08:09:55] | Rocketeer: | *cought* is there a camd3 module for mythtv? |
| [08:10:22] | Juski: | oh here's a thing... I've been noticing some ghosty images on recordings from my pvr150 – I've set the temporal DNR to 0 – is mythtv resetting it? |
| [08:10:35] | Juski: | Rocketeer: NO. and we don't talk about such things here |
| [08:10:43] | Rocketeer: | got it. |
| [08:11:11] | Juski: | the only way you can get pay TV with mythtv is by having a hardware CAM plugged into a CI slot and a valid viewing card |
| [08:12:14] | Juski: | btw – by 'ghosty' I mean like motion trails – very slight but noticable |
| [08:12:30] | Rocketeer: | well, then i need to change it from one to the other adapter, but that's okay. I know this is a special subject. |
| [08:13:01] | Rocketeer: | Different question. IVTV.... i haven't installed it, i hope it is not essential, because my card runs without it. |
| [08:13:17] | Juski: | there's not even much documentation on how well myth works with CI stuff |
| [08:13:30] | Juski: | Rocketeer: ivtv is only for PVR cards |
| [08:14:06] | Rocketeer: | PVR means? |
| [08:14:15] | Juski: | ah wait a sec.. maybe the recordings I watched last night were from _before_ I set temporal DNR to zero |
| [08:14:26] | Juski: | PVR150, pVR250, PVR350, PVR500 |
| [08:14:37] | Juski: | as in the Hauppauge PVR cards ;-) |
| [08:14:44] | Juski: | (and a couple of others) |
| [08:15:55] | Rocketeer: | ok. well. i am lucky, and my card works out of the box.... (which is fine for me, because I had to invest almost a day until i got mythtv-setup to work (DB-problems) |
| [08:17:25] | Juski: | ivtvctl -c dnr_temporal=0 |
| [08:17:27] | Juski: | oops |
| [08:18:10] | Juski: | just editing my rc.conf incase I need to reboot & I forget to issue the command. zero should really be the default setting – most people don't like image trails |
| [08:18:33] | Rocketeer: | probably the last question for today: |
| [08:18:33] | Rocketeer: | do you know the problems about the grab_TV_today thing? |
| [08:19:01] | Juski: | not really, being a UK user – but I've seen lots of people ask about it |
| [08:19:25] | Juski: | AFAIK it works by scraping html pages & when tv today change the page layout the script breaks |
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| [08:20:01] | Juski: | we users of tv_grab_uk_rt don't need to worry about that – they give us data in xmltv format already! |
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| [08:22:44] | Juski: | got an explanation for bleb.org being down if anyone is interested... "The box hosting bleb.org's suffered some weird failure. It's sat next to me, unplugged, awaiting further diagnosis this evening." – that was on April 4th |
| [08:23:26] | stuarta: | that'll be SNAFU then |
| [08:23:54] | Rocketeer: | okay. thx for the help, cu. |
| [08:24:01] | Juski: | np Rocketeer |
| [08:24:10] | Juski: | SNAFU? |
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| [08:24:20] | stuarta: | perhaps FUBAR |
| [08:24:31] | dasOp: | situation normal: all fucked up |
| [08:24:36] | Juski: | heh |
| [08:24:55] | Juski: | I'll think on next time I use that word in polite conversation then |
| [08:24:56] | dasOp: | not very surprisingly, its a military coined term |
| [08:25:18] | dasOp: | I'd bet alot on fubar being so as well :P |
| [08:26:41] | Juski: | wikipedia has the answers (ish) |
| [08:26:51] | Juski: | I like DILLIGAS |
| [08:27:25] | stuarta: | DILLIGAF is the term |
| [08:27:29] | Juski: | could be a name for mythtv if it ever forks |
| [08:27:44] | Juski: | for the 'other' code I mean ;-) |
| [08:28:56] | Juski: | stuarta: did you catch that effort on E4 last night about failed boyband members being given another shot at fame? |
| [08:29:21] | stuarta: | wouldn't watch it on principle :) |
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| [08:29:30] | Juski: | it's gonna be funny I reckon – the other shot at fame is as a member of a girl band |
| [08:29:53] | Juski: | the humanity of it – like HOW desperate are they? :-P |
| [08:30:17] | Juski: | I don't generally watch 'reality' TV as a matter of principle either, but this is car crash telly |
| [08:30:20] | stuarta: | saw the ads in the paper for it, but have enough trouble watching my existing recordings before they expire |
| [08:31:07] | Juski: | I've got a couple of stacks of series now |
| [08:31:22] | Juski: | I might edit & transcode em to put in mythvideo |
| [08:31:53] | coffee88: | now you've got them time now the DIY's done... |
| [08:31:55] | Juski: | since myth's internal player can't play them with via xvmc in minimyth |
| [08:32:03] | Juski: | the DIY isn't bloody done |
| [08:32:10] | coffee88: | is it ever? |
| [08:32:11] | Juski: | new suite arrives today |
| [08:32:53] | Juski: | and I can't do any more til my dad comes down at the weekend – he's bringing all the valves & stuff for the plumbing – gets it cheaply at a place near him |
| [08:32:54] | coffee88: | another one for you to watch helplessly on the cctv while they take it away again? |
| [08:33:04] | Juski: | no I'm at home today |
| [08:33:11] | coffee88: | well planned. |
| [08:33:42] | Juski: | 10 metres of 10mm squared cable for £1.50 a metre. B&Q are like 5 times that cost |
| [08:33:57] | coffee88: | i love the uk delivery system. Can't even tell you if it will be morn or afternoon delivery... |
| [08:34:11] | Juski: | depends on the courier. the big firms are rubbish |
| [08:34:40] | coffee88: | still, always an excuse to work at home for those of us that can get away with that. |
| [08:34:41] | Juski: | bought my telly from Kendalls (house of fraser) in manchester – they even gave me an exact time.. |
| [08:35:10] | coffee88: | and did it even arrive at that time? |
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| [08:35:18] | Juski: | and they were cheaper than dixons.. and they gave me a 5 year warranty.. and they were on time! |
| [08:35:25] | coffee88: | sweet! |
| [08:35:36] | Juski: | I wish I'd paid the £15 install fee though – that bastard is heavy! |
| [08:35:55] | hashbang: | heya |
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| [08:36:04] | Juski: | hiya hashbang |
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| [08:36:43] | stuarta: | morning hashbang |
| [08:37:31] | Juski: | I think it's time to put the white border box back on my watermark images |
| [08:38:17] | stuarta: | i think it's time for breakfast |
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| [08:56:04] | Juski: | woohoo – new suite is here :-) |
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| [09:02:19] | mchou: | /exit |
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| [09:15:30] | Juski: | "help – I can't get the PVR150 video OUT to work" :-/ wtf is that guy on? |
| [09:18:14] | Chicago: | After installing mythstreamtv... what am I supposed to run in mythweb that will update the GUI and show the new mythstreamtv button? |
| [09:19:42] | Juski: | Chicago: there's a new version of mythstreamtv for 0.19 – did you see the users list post about it? |
| [09:20:40] | Chicago: | Yup. mythstreamtvnew.tar from here http://jogibear9988.dyndns.org:2080/ right? |
| [09:21:53] | Juski: | looks like it comes with full install instructions |
| [09:22:26] | Juski: | Run the install.sh script located in the mythstreamtv directory. Enter the following information- |
| [09:22:46] | Juski: | etc |
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| [09:24:36] | Chicago: | Looks like I'm having to edit /mythweb/includes/init.php like in the description for v0.98 on the download website. putting a 'streamtv' => null item in the list near 'tv' 'video' 'music'->null |
| [09:26:03] | Juski: | yup |
| [09:26:28] | Juski: | why there couldn't be a patch in the install script to do that I dont know |
| [09:27:51] | Chicago: | so it initially says 'stream' in that list in init.php... I'm supposing 'stream' is really whatever I named my directory inside of /mythweb where I installed mythstreamtv |
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| [10:05:21] | Juski: | anyone here familiar with swik.net? I want them to stop linking to my site |
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| [10:39:13] | jchillerup: | Hey. Is it possible to get a sound card with a built-in amplifier? |
| [10:39:24] | jchillerup: | So that I can plug the speakers directly in |
| [10:39:42] | stuarta: | they all have a tiny bit of amplification |
| [10:40:12] | stuarta: | the rest is done in either powered speakers or a proper amplifier |
| [10:40:18] | Juski: | not all. my lame SBLive! card only has line outputs |
| [10:40:36] | Zider: | line outputs are amplified a tiny bit |
| [10:40:46] | Juski: | not enough to drive a speaker though |
| [10:40:56] | Zider: | no, but there is a signal |
| [10:41:08] | Zider: | enough to drive headphone speakers :) |
| [10:41:27] | jchillerup: | ok |
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| [10:41:39] | jchillerup: | Then I need a mini amplifier |
| [10:41:50] | Juski: | it's safe to say that 'lots' of soundcards can drive speakers directly |
| [10:42:08] | Juski: | but in most cases you'll need amplified speakers |
| [10:42:36] | Juski: | I eschew PC speakers, preferring to get hifi sound with _real_ speakers instead |
| [10:42:46] | Zider: | eschew? |
| [10:43:13] | stuarta: | ~= avoid |
| [10:43:18] | Zider: | ah |
| [10:43:20] | Juski: | in other words I think PC speakers are shite & I use a proper hifi amp & speakers instead |
| [10:43:45] | Zider: | I have both. :) |
| [10:43:45] | Juski: | even the cambridge audio things aren't so hot (especially for the money they cost) |
| [10:44:55] | stuarta: | i got an altec lansing thing, but does it ever turn off properly, nope... |
| [10:45:34] | Zider: | I have run into problems getting video on the tv now tho.. the two cards I have with video-out is a ATI Radeon and a Nvidia TNT.. neither works with the "right" drivers, and with fbdev/vesa I can't get mplayer working properly.. :P |
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| [10:54:42] | Juski: | Zider: fb is baaad (IMHO) |
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| [10:59:28] | Zider: | Juski: yes, but it shows picture at least :P |
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| [11:06:48] | Zider: | huh.. I got xv to show picture, at a maximum of 800x600.. but no vidmodeextension.. *grmbl* |
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| [12:17:18] | applejack: | hey guys,.. i'm getting: libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so: undefined reference to 'postProcess_C' when emerging mythtv on gentoo... any idea what i'm missing? |
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| [12:28:32] | fozi: | applejack: unmergie the old version, assuming you are trying to emerge .19 |
| [12:28:50] | applejack: | fozi, nope,. this is a new install |
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| [12:29:46] | applejack: | 0.18.1-r1 |
| [12:34:56] | fozi: | sorry, no idea |
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| [12:43:14] | Merlin83b: | Why, mythfrontend, why do you refuse to initialise my plugins? |
| [12:43:26] | stuarta: | wrong version most likely |
| [12:43:49] | Merlin83b: | Just compiled both from the same svn checkout :-) |
| [12:44:12] | stuarta: | ah but did you install the main tree before compiling the plugins? |
| [12:44:44] | Merlin83b: | Yes :-) |
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| [12:52:20] | applejack: | hmmm |
| [12:53:48] | applejack: | reading thru the docs,... how do I configure mythtv on my backend when the backend doesn't run X ? |
| [12:54:41] | RaYmAn-Bx: | you could run mythtv-setup remotely..Presumably it at least has X libraries installed so either ssh forwarding or direct should work |
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| [13:06:02] | Erol: | hello |
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| [13:08:08] | Erol: | everybody still asleep? |
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| [13:09:37] | Juski: | Zzzzzz |
| [13:09:58] | ** stuarta snores loudly.... ** | |
| [13:10:00] | Erol: | :) |
| [13:10:12] | Cromz: | cripes isn't it like 5pm in uk? |
| [13:10:17] | Cromz: | er 4pm |
| [13:10:24] | Erol: | 3 PM here |
| [13:10:42] | Cromz: | doh.. |
| [13:10:44] | Erol: | anybody here runs one ivtv and one bttv card in te same box ? |
| [13:11:11] | stuarta: | 2pm |
| [13:11:30] | Cromz: | not me. I got enough trouble with 2 ivtv cards and a serial ir blaster |
| [13:12:55] | Erol: | hmm maybe my question isn't related to this specific combo |
| [13:13:03] | Erol: | do you have interference with 2 ivtv cards |
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| [13:13:16] | chinamill: | Howdy |
| [13:13:25] | Erol: | i got some strange static on bttv card, maybe it's because they are next to eachoter in pci slots ? |
| [13:13:27] | Cromz: | nope. I did but it was a loose connection. |
| [13:13:45] | Cromz: | could be. mine are seperated by 3 slots. |
| [13:14:05] | Erol: | anyone have any smart suggestions with PCI slots ? |
| [13:14:06] | Erol: | :) |
| [13:15:01] | chinamill: | Does anyone have a clew waht speed flawours of AMD processor must have in speed to support good HDTV playback and recording? |
| [13:15:30] | sphing: | Erol: i would make sure your bttv and ivtv cards on different interrupts |
| [13:15:36] | sphing: | i know people have issues withthat |
| [13:17:10] | Erol: | sphing they are on different interrupts, I get something like power spikes on the tvtime screen, but tuning works, picture is ok, but those horizontal spike lines make it unwatchable |
| [13:17:20] | laga: | re |
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| [13:17:34] | stuarta: | afternoon laga |
| [13:17:48] | laga: | heya stuarta :) |
| [13:18:13] | sphing: | Erol that was my only suggestion... i only have one ivtv |
| [13:18:27] | laga: | chinamill: est-ce qu'il y a HDTV en france? |
| [13:18:37] | sphing: | Erol and they both seperately but not together |
| [13:19:17] | Erol: | sphing, tnx anyway, I use bttv card for radio since pvr 150 doesn't have one, but i thought about fixing it to work as PiP |
| [13:20:09] | Cromz: | Erol, is it only the bttv that's have the interferance like issue? |
| [13:20:16] | RaYmAn-Bx: | haj: found out if the firmware update solved that sound problem for you? |
| [13:20:45] | Erol: | Cromz yes, ivtv works flawlessly |
| [13:22:18] | Cromz: | Erol, check that the card and tuner type are set right? http://www.linux.com/howtos/BTTV/cards.shtml I know my ati wonder ve was a pain. at first it looked like bad recepton then I found out the tuner was wrong. |
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| [13:24:27] | Erol: | Cromz, I will check it again, but I'm pretty sure they are correct, tuning works, radio works, but only tv picture has some weird gray horizontal spikes |
| [13:27:00] | Cromz: | I use to know a site that listed both. card and tuner.. that site only shows the card.. this has a list of tuners. http://www.linux.com/howtos/BTTV/modprobe.shtml |
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| [13:28:32] | hashbang: | Erol: analogue TV cards do tend to require a bit of trial n' error. |
| [13:28:33] | Erol: | well i can't be wrong with the card its WinTV-GO-FM, they are pretty much standard and well supported |
| [13:29:18] | Erol: | I used that card before in myth, now I bought pvr 150 and these problems appear |
| [13:29:41] | chinamill: | laga: I guess only for DVD playing |
| [13:30:15] | laga: | chinamill: how many HDTV DVDs are out there that you can play on your linux box? |
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| [13:33:24] | kazan: | morning everyone |
| [13:34:11] | chinamill: | laga: Hmmm I must admit my knowledge about this is not yet great but is not most DVD:s half HD, and thaey wouldnt be a problem to play on a linux box? |
| [13:35:19] | Juski: | afternoon laga |
| [13:35:35] | laga: | chinamill: as far as i know, most DVDs are SDTV, and only a few ship with HDTV content. and that's usually encoded in some microsoft format, i dunno if that'll work on a linux box. you'd better do some research before you buy hardware :) |
| [13:35:41] | laga: | Juski: hi! how is it going? |
| [13:35:58] | Juski: | chinamill: SD DVD is 720x480 for NTSC, 720x576 for PAL... so NTSC DVD is way less than half HD resolution! |
| [13:36:19] | Juski: | laga: going well – got my bathroom suite delivered – just waiting in for DHL to drop off my towel rail |
| [13:36:32] | laga: | Juski: nice :) |
| [13:36:50] | chinamill: | Hmm tahnks for the info! |
| [13:37:10] | ** Juski really doesn't know what the fuss is about regarding HDTV ** | |
| [13:37:36] | Juski: | mo money, mo money |
| [13:37:42] | laga: | Juski: it makes me drool |
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| [13:38:17] | Juski: | makes me go... oo so it's not £1000 better than PAL |
| [13:38:58] | Juski: | started to think that by the time I get an HDTV set I'll be so old by eyesight won't notice :-P |
| [13:39:11] | Juski: | by/my |
| [13:39:12] | Juski: | oops |
| [13:39:24] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [13:39:30] | Cromz: | I'm at that stage already.. so no hd for me |
| [13:39:31] | Juski: | maybe I'll change my mind when we get free HD |
| [13:39:40] | Juski: | when/if |
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| [13:40:23] | chinamill: | How about HDCP, *nix and hardware? |
| [13:40:45] | chinamill: | Will that ever work? |
| [13:41:00] | Juski: | probably not |
| [13:41:26] | stuarta: | isn't that purely in hardware? |
| [13:41:30] | Juski: | otherwise how could content creators be sure stuff is locked down? |
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| [13:41:54] | Juski: | stuarta: it's done in software on the part of PCs with HDCP output I think |
| [13:42:30] | Juski: | I reckon the video driver will be what drives the HDCP hardware on the VGA card |
| [13:42:31] | chinamill: | stuarta: This is why I ask, does the driver for the graph-stuff need support for HDCP or is it purely hardware based? |
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| [13:43:03] | Juski: | and the powers that be will never miss our minority money |
| [13:43:05] | stuarta: | we can't decide. might have to ask google |
| [13:43:46] | kazan: | gotta PVR500 question for you |
| [13:43:57] | kazan: | what's the resolution of the video coming off them, and what is the audio format |
| [13:44:51] | Juski: | kazan: up to 768x576 PAL |
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| [13:45:00] | Juski: | audio format is MPEG1 layer2 |
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| [13:45:47] | Juski: | myth is set to capture at 480x480 by default though |
| [13:46:09] | Juski: | which looks a lot more like VHS to my eyes than 720x576 ;-) |
| [13:46:12] | kazan: | NSTC |
| [13:46:34] | Fatty123: | Hi, I made a DVD out of a TV show, and now I want to make a copy of the DVD. Using DVD::Rip I made .VOBs out of the DVD and wrote an XML file for dvdauthor, but it rejects all the data in the vobs... Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| [13:46:46] | laga: | 480x480 gave you jumping video with earlier versions of ivtv on a pal card. dunno if they fixed it. that was annoying as hell |
| [13:47:00] | Juski: | I think they fixed that laga |
| [13:47:13] | Juski: | looked okay (but shitty like VHS) on my system |
| [13:47:46] | ** kazan is american ** | |
| [13:47:56] | kazan: | so i use NTSC |
| [13:48:00] | ** Juski gives kazan his sympathies ** | |
| [13:48:04] | kazan: | ha |
| [13:48:14] | ** kazan accepts ** | |
| [13:48:26] | kazan: | America: We love freedom* |
| [13:48:29] | kazan: | *restrictions apply |
| [13:48:30] | Juski: | I dunno what the max resolution of NTSC is, I guess it'd be something like 720x480 |
| [13:48:58] | Juski: | something x480 |
| [13:49:08] | kazan: | that's not 3/4 or 16:9 |
| [13:49:15] | kazan: | 640x480 would be 4:3 |
| [13:49:27] | Juski: | assuming square pixels, yes it would be |
| [13:49:38] | Juski: | but TV & DVD pixels aren't square |
| [13:50:15] | kazan: | ......... |
| [13:51:18] | kazan: | non-square pixels.. oui |
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| [13:52:28] | Juski: | 720x576 can be 4:3 or 16:9 |
| [13:52:32] | Juski: | :-P |
| [13:52:38] | Juski: | as can 720x480 |
| [13:52:57] | kazan: | ewwww |
| [13:52:59] | kazan: | wtf |
| [13:53:06] | Juski: | amorphic ;-) |
| [13:53:16] | ** kazan barfs ** | |
| [13:53:23] | kazan: | fixed coordinate systems WRU |
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| [13:53:41] | Juski: | it's how they got around sending widescreen on NTSC & PAL systems |
| [13:54:02] | kazan: | default 480x480 recording results in non-square pixels, I want a square-pixel resolution in my recordings |
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| [13:54:24] | kazan: | so if i export them to something else it will read em right |
| [13:54:35] | Juski: | kazan: it doesn't make any difference |
| [13:54:43] | Juski: | if in doubt, use DVD resolutions |
| [13:54:51] | kazan: | 720x480? |
| [13:54:53] | Juski: | 720x480 in your case |
| [13:55:37] | Juski: | pixel size doesn't necessarily relate to the number of video lines in the picture either (that's the Kell factor) |
| [13:55:51] | Juski: | heheh |
| [13:56:29] | ** kazan hates tv standards ** | |
| [13:56:34] | Juski: | anyway now my radiator is finally here I'm going out for a bit |
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| [14:33:14] | kayelem: | Aaaagh! – libs/libavcodec/libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so: undefined reference to `postProcess_C' |
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| [14:33:52] | kayelem: | I've swapped mainboard and processor and now it won't build. :-( |
| [14:33:59] | kayelem: | So much for "upgrade" |
| [14:35:10] | stuarta: | have you done emerge world to rebuild everything else for your processor? |
| [14:35:36] | kayelem: | yup |
| [14:35:57] | kayelem: | with various flags changed appropriately as well. |
| [14:36:50] | ** kayelem tries revdep-rebuild ** | |
| [14:38:59] | kayelem: | Going from P3 to a faster Duron – had to go via emerge --emptytree system with CFLAGS set for i386; then swap the board, then repeat with CFLAGS set for athlon-tbird |
| [14:39:20] | kayelem: | then emerge --emptytree world |
| [14:39:33] | kayelem: | and a kernel rebuild... think I've done everything... |
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| [14:50:23] | chinamill: | No, HD DVD aint gonna work until someone make a fix |
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| [14:51:33] | kazan: | huh? |
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| [15:23:39] | kazan: | wtf |
| [15:23:53] | kazan: | i scheduled a recording via mythweb and it didn't start |
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| [15:34:38] | Ruis: | i need some lirc help. I installed it according to this guide: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation#LIRC |
| [15:35:13] | Ruis: | i've got an ati remote wonder 2, so I'm using the lirc_atiusb module. everything installed great and the modules even load on boot now. |
| [15:35:36] | Ruis: | the problem is when i run irw and push my remote buttons, nothing happens. |
| [15:35:49] | Ruis: | any way to debug this? |
| [15:36:39] | Juski: | irw, usually., how ironic |
| [15:36:41] | Cromz: | Ruis, I just went through that. use irrecord and make your lircd.conf file yourself. |
| [15:37:05] | Cromz: | it's like the gap code isnt' right and the remotes are differant |
| [15:37:23] | Ruis: | does irrecord come with the lirc package? |
| [15:37:27] | Cromz: | yes |
| [15:38:09] | Ruis: | what's the gap code? |
| [15:39:02] | Cromz: | it's in the lircd.conf I dont know the actual use of it. but I know that's the main differance between my rw2 and the ones I found in google. |
| [15:39:15] | Ruis: | oh. ok. thanks. |
| [15:39:19] | Ruis: | i'll give that a try. |
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| [15:40:42] | kazan: | WTF |
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| [15:40:53] | kazan: | i schedule a recording in mythWeb |
| [15:41:10] | kazan: | but backend status shows "There are no shows scheduled for recording." |
| [15:41:19] | kazan: | recirdubg schedule shows the show though |
| [15:41:32] | kazan: | recording* |
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| [15:50:04] | Ruis: | Cromz, irrecord isn't finding any input from the remote either. |
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| [15:50:37] | Cromz: | Ruis, what does ls -l /dev/lir* show? |
| [15:51:19] | Cromz: | try irrecord lircd.conf -d /dev/lirc0 |
| [15:51:23] | Ruis: | lirc0 and lircd |
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| [15:51:44] | Mersault: | are there any ubuntu-mythtv users in here that have a functional set of the transcode tools with yuvdenoise? |
| [15:52:56] | Ruis: | hey. i got it working. lirc0 didn't have the right perms on it. |
| [15:53:17] | Ruis: | do I have to set those perms every boot? |
| [15:53:58] | Cromz: | shouldn't have to. mine doesn't do that. but I'm using fc4 er.. mythdora |
| [15:54:39] | Ruis: | well. i guess I'll find out. :) |
| [15:54:43] | Ruis: | thanks cromz! |
| [15:54:57] | kazan: | ruis console.perms |
| [15:55:31] | kazan: | assuming you have a sanely recent PAM [ie you're not using ubuntu] /etc/security/console.perms |
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| [15:59:22] | kazan: | um.... i don't think backend is paying attention to the record table |
| [15:59:26] | kazan: | but instead is still using oldrecord |
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| [16:11:41] | Ruis: | so when I do this irrecord, after I enter all my buttons it does a 'checking for toggle bit' and has me push a button as fast as I can without holding it down. how long are you supposed to do that for? i did it for about two minutes and nothing happened. how important is that? |
| [16:12:07] | Ruis: | can I skip that step and just use my new lircd.conf without problems? |
| [16:13:10] | Cromz: | dont know. mine did it. found the button. not sure if it'll write the file if it doesn't complete. :/ |
| [16:13:56] | Ruis: | yeah. it wrote the file. |
| [16:14:01] | Ruis: | now irw works. |
| [16:14:23] | Cromz: | cool. |
| [16:14:51] | kazan: | hey cromz |
| [16:15:52] | Cromz: | hey kazan |
| [16:15:58] | Cromz: | :) |
| [16:16:10] | kazan: | any idea wtf is with mythWeb recordings not working? |
| [16:16:14] | kazan: | i just sent an email to mythtv-users |
| [16:16:28] | kazan: | the two recordings that I succesfully made where done via frontend |
| [16:16:37] | kazan: | they're in "oldrecord" table in the database and in "recorded" |
| [16:16:59] | kazan: | the recordings I scheduled in mythweb are in "record" but backend status doesn't show them queued, doesn't record them |
| [16:17:58] | Cromz: | no idea kazan, I havn't had any trouble with mythconverg. cept when I upgraded to .19 from .18 the recording I had it didn't reconize. I just deleted them and all is good now. |
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| [16:19:46] | kazan: | brb |
| [16:20:37] | Cromz: | mythweb has worked fine for me. I've setup recordings.. deleted them.. deleted livetv recordings and no issues so I havn't had to dig into it.cept to set it up. :/ |
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| [16:21:03] | Cromz: | my mythweb is on the webserver, mythconverg on a differant system. |
| [16:22:11] | kazan: | mine are on the same system |
| [16:22:23] | kazan: | i show mythWeb's scheduled recordings in the "record" table in the database |
| [16:22:38] | kazan: | but backend status doesn't show anything coming up, and backend doesn't record them (all one system) |
| [16:23:00] | kazan: | the ones that myth did record – which were set to record from inside frontend – are in "oldrecord" table and have duplicate records in "recorded" |
| [16:23:59] | kazan: | oh and i manipulated one of those from mythWeb |
| [16:24:05] | kazan: | [made it record extra over the end] |
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| [16:29:49] | Peit|home: | any dvb-s users here? I can record a program from the channel, , but not watch liveTV. anyone got any ideas? |
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| [16:30:54] | kazan: | is the tuner busy while you're trying to watch it? :P |
| [16:30:58] | kazan: | what's wrong with your livetv? |
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| [16:32:46] | kazan: | oh wtf |
| [16:32:51] | kazan: | i had to restart mythbackend |
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| [16:33:31] | kazan: | i think it's related to this "Fixed database timeout and disconnect problem in scheduler" problem in the fixes for .20 |
| [16:33:35] | Peit|home: | nope, tuner is fine, livetv works for the other tuner |
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| [16:35:33] | kazan: | what is the liveTV problem with the DVB-S one? |
| [16:35:37] | kazan: | [ie symptoms] |
| [16:36:50] | Peit|home: | black screen,... then back to menu |
| [16:37:06] | Cromz: | kazan, so you restarted you backend and all is good for now? so I can stop looking ;) |
| [16:37:21] | kazan: | aye it's good now |
| [16:38:03] | kazan: | i think it's probably the "database timout and disconnect problem in scheduler" that's fixed in the provisional .20 changelog |
| [16:38:15] | Cromz: | k |
| [16:39:10] | Ruis: | so if I'm going to install mythtv from source, should I use the download link to get v19 or should i get the 19-fixes version from svn? |
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| [16:40:12] | kazan: | probably 19-fixes |
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| [17:04:38] | Ruis: | while compiling myth I get: cannot find: -lXv |
| [17:04:46] | Ruis: | what package do I need to install to get that lib? |
| [17:05:29] | kormoc: | the xv package perhaps? |
| [17:07:12] | kormoc: | likely called libXv or similar |
| [17:07:24] | Ruis: | i had it. i needed the xv-dev stuff |
| [17:07:55] | Chicago: | Ruis: I grabbed the 19-fixes version from SVN.. so far so good... I only had to --disable-mythbrowser while compiling mythtvplugins. |
| [17:08:36] | Ruis: | is mythbrowser broken or something? |
| [17:08:43] | Chicago: | I dunno |
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| [17:10:46] | Cromz: | ahh the joys of html redirection.. keeps me from having to memerize port numbers lol |
| [17:11:43] | Chicago: | Can somebody help me install mythstreamtv... I'm having a lot of trouble... |
| [17:12:14] | kormoc: | I do beleive that mythstreamtv needs patched to build with current code. |
| [17:15:39] | kazan: | chicago do you have KDE installed? |
| [17:15:46] | Chicago: | well... I guess that might explain it... I'm on SVN... and just downloaded the mythstreamtvnew.tar which is v.99... I thought it was the patched version. |
| [17:15:50] | Chicago: | Yes I have KDE installed. |
| [17:15:51] | kazan: | i could never get mythstreamtv working |
| [17:15:59] | kazan: | chicago: KDE development packages? |
| [17:16:26] | kazan: | with KDE installed i don't see why you needed to --disable-mythbrowser |
| [17:16:29] | Chicago: | Runnin Gentoo... so it should all be there... I compiled it from source. |
| [17:16:41] | kazan: | ewwwwwwwwww |
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| [17:17:52] | Chicago: | I guess 1 thing at a time is what I'm workin now... I have the SVN code installed... and it plays good... using realtime priority as non-root user and all that good stuff... |
| [17:18:32] | Chicago: | I'm lookin to either start seeing some success with recordings automatically transcoding themselves so I can download them from mythweb after they've compiled... or seeing mythstream or mythstreamtv working.... whichever I can get first. |
| [17:20:07] | Juski: | mythstream isn't for watching recordings |
| [17:20:16] | Juski: | mythstreamtv is though |
| [17:20:21] | Chicago: | right... I'd like mythstream and mythstreamtv. |
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| [17:33:17] | Chicago: | kormoc: do you know if this is the patch that works for mythstreamtv and SVN? http://jogibear9988.dyndns.org:2080/ |
| [17:34:50] | monkey89: | Is there any version of mythtv that compiles with gcc4? |
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| [17:38:55] | kormoc: | Chicago, should be, aye |
| [17:39:39] | deepthink: | I have a headless server where my tv-card is located. I have managed to record some shows and it seems to work fine. But when I try to watch live TV my network connection is maxed out at 2Mb/second and I get no picture. How do I transcode on the fly? |
| [17:40:02] | kormoc: | you don't, but you can turn down the bit rate for livetv |
| [17:40:27] | deepthink: | kormoc, where do I do that? |
| [17:40:38] | kormoc: | under recording profiles->live tv |
| [17:42:53] | deepthink: | I don't have one called live tv, do I create it? |
| [17:43:11] | kormoc: | you should |
| [17:43:16] | kormoc: | what ones do you have? |
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| [17:44:28] | deepthink: | I have "Hardware DVB enocders", "Transcoders" and one that I tried to create my self called Budget for my budget DVB-T card. |
| [17:44:44] | Juski: | ah |
| [17:44:49] | Juski: | you can't change that then |
| [17:45:06] | Juski: | get a faster network connection |
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| [17:46:19] | deepthink: | crap. Myth can't reencode on the fly? I guess I have to use videolan then. |
| [17:46:53] | kormoc: | myth isn't really designed for low bandwidth networks like that. |
| [17:47:32] | kormoc: | esp with a high bandwidth tv card like dvbs tend to be |
| [17:48:57] | Juski: | even so, <2Mbit/sec video in mpeg2 looks like shit |
| [17:50:04] | deepthink: | yes but mpg4 doesn't |
| [17:50:36] | Chicago: | The settings.pro file for mythstream-v0.16_5 looks like it has three things for me to customize... PREFIX which I set to my mythsvn path... |
| [17:51:17] | Chicago: | Should I also set the INCLUDEPATH directive to /mythsvn...? instead of /usr/local/include which is defaulted |
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| [17:52:38] | kormoc: | Chicago, no, actually likely they shouldn't be changed at all |
| [17:52:52] | kormoc: | Chicago, PREFIX is for say, installing into /usr/local rather then /usr |
| [17:53:24] | kormoc: | Juski, I'm so under 2 mb/sec of my mythbox :P |
| [17:55:19] | Juski: | glad you like the quality at that rate is all I can say |
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| [17:58:12] | Chicago: | kormoc: I use gentoo... and already emerged mythtv... but I wanted to test the SVN now, so I have a different user with an LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to /mythsvn/lib... and I compiled the SVN in /mythsvn.... |
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| [17:58:34] | kormoc: | uhh |
| [17:58:40] | kormoc: | you're gonna break things. |
| [17:58:55] | kormoc: | you needed to compile myth svn with a prefix of /mythsvn then |
| [17:59:05] | kormoc: | and then compile mythstream with a prefix of /mythsvn |
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| [17:59:22] | Chicago: | kormoc: so in the settings.pro I was figuring PREFIX=/mythsvn or /mythsvn/bin and then I was still curious of what the INCLUDEPATH should be |
| [17:59:51] | Chicago: | kormoc: yeah... mythtv ./configured with the --prefix=/mythsvn |
| [17:59:53] | deepthink: | strange I changed to 100Mbps network instead of 802.11g and now it works and the bandwidth is not close to 2Mbps |
| [17:59:58] | kormoc: | Well, when you set the prefix to /mythsvn, everything else should use the prefix/type, so prefix/bin and similar |
| [18:00:16] | Juski: | ah the 'wonders' of wireless :-P |
| [18:00:22] | kormoc: | deepthink, encrpytion and wireless packets eat up wifi bandwitdh like nothing else |
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| [18:00:28] | Chicago: | So what's the INCLUDEPATH gonna be? |
| [18:00:50] | kormoc: | Chicago, it should auto do prefix/includes |
| [18:01:16] | deepthink: | kormoc, but now it was like 600mbps |
| [18:02:00] | Chicago: | so then it's safe to take out the INCLUDEPATH *= /usr/local/include line? |
| [18:02:42] | kormoc: | deepthink, so you have a tad over 2x the overhead with wireless. that sounds about right |
| [18:02:49] | kormoc: | Chicago, yeah... |
| [18:03:04] | Chicago: | thanks :)... |
| [18:03:39] | adipate: | hrm how is sata support under linux? any chipsets to avoid? |
| [18:03:52] | kormoc: | intel's sata chipsets are rock solid |
| [18:05:48] | Ruis: | on this part of the howto: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation#MythDVD while trying to install stuff for mythdvd, it seems that that package source isn't working. any ideas on other places to get those packages? |
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| [18:28:35] | Chicago: | Well, on SVN with MythStream installed, here's a screenshot. http://entropyengine.net/mythstream.jpg My fonts in mythstream looked also screwed up like this on the emerged version of mythtv on gentoo. |
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| [18:30:50] | kormoc: | Chicago, care about your qt theme? |
| [18:31:21] | Chicago: | kormoc: not especially. |
| [18:31:22] | kormoc: | Chicago, if I was you, I'd just mv ~/.qt ~/.qt.old and ~/.kde ~/.kde.old and so on, reseting it to defaults |
| [18:31:26] | kormoc: | and see if that fixes it |
| [18:31:43] | Chicago: | k |
| [18:32:27] | Chicago: | I'm running X/KDE as user1... and mythtv as user2.... should I get rid of user1's or user2's ~/.qt* and ~/.kde* dirs? |
| [18:32:46] | kormoc: | you should be running the frontned as the same user as X/kde is |
| [18:33:41] | Chicago: | should be... but user 1... has his LD_LIBRARY_PATH untouched... and user 2 needs to have LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Djinni/lib... or else I don't know another way to have an emerged mythtv and svn mythtv both working installed seperately. |
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| [18:35:00] | Chicago: | So, I log in and startx with user1... and do my business and usually have about however many different windows open for e-mail... firefox etc. and then I 'su – user2' in a console and run ./mythsvn/bin/mythfrontend |
| [18:35:40] | Chicago: | The window pops up in x.. and there's myth. |
| [18:36:21] | kormoc: | you can set the preload for a single command |
| [18:36:41] | kormoc: | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Djinni/lib... /mythsvn/bin/mythfrontend should work fine |
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| [18:37:42] | Chicago: | oh yeah... and then there's the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file... which has to have a different database setup for the emerged version vs. the svn version. |
| [18:37:50] | Chicago: | So I just used another user to do it. |
| [18:37:56] | kormoc: | fair nuff |
| [18:38:12] | kormoc: | but yeah, I donno how that would affect things, as you're likely getting QT all up in a jitter |
| [18:39:11] | Chicago: | MythStream looked exactly the same way in the emerged version.. |
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| [18:41:51] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
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| [18:46:55] | Chicago: | brb |
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| [19:08:59] | kazan: | how many meg/hour is the mpeg2 stream that IVTV cards spit out – on average |
| [19:09:39] | kormoc: | depends on the bitrate, usually it's set to to 2000 kilobits a second I believe |
| [19:10:02] | RaYmAn-Bx: | without changing anything, mythtv seemed to default to 4500 in my case |
| [19:10:27] | kormoc: | ahh, that could be, I liklely am remembering what mine is set close to |
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| [19:11:59] | kazan: | so... approximately how many meg/hour is that |
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| [19:12:17] | ** kazan isn't a video codec programmer ** | |
| [19:12:30] | kormoc: | you don't need to be, google does it for you |
| [19:12:35] | kormoc: | http://www.google.com/search?client=opera& . . . amp;oe=utf-8 |
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| [19:15:46] | kazan: | heh |
| [19:16:02] | kazan: | i've rarely found that time(sec)*bitrate = actual size of file |
| [19:16:11] | kormoc: | of course not |
| [19:16:16] | kazan: | mostly because everything is recorded in variable bitrate :P |
| [19:16:20] | kormoc: | yup |
| [19:16:31] | kazan: | but i guess that serves as a reasonable upper-limit |
| [19:16:58] | kazan: | now just to get stuff to nicely export my recordings |
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| [19:17:03] | kazan: | brb |
| [19:18:04] | kazan: | back |
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| [19:44:32] | the-FoX: | hi |
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| [19:47:31] | the-FoX: | anyone got a very big sized mythtv-logo ? maybe even vector graphics ? |
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| [19:48:09] | NiklasH_work: | hi, need some advice: since i'm only going to use a digital tv card for my mythtv box, would an epia motherboard at around 1Ghz be enough? |
| [19:48:18] | philw: | Hello, could anyone spare a minute to help me with me mythtv box? |
| [19:48:44] | deepthink: | I got mythtv working. I'm recording a program now. When I hit watch tv it says my tv-card is busy. How do I watch what is being recorded? |
| [19:49:11] | the-FoX: | have a look under information --> system state |
| [19:49:41] | the-FoX: | philw: what's yur question? |
| [19:49:46] | philw: | My problem is that although I've got my PVR-350 card running and I can change channels with ivtv-tune, I can't change channels from within MythTV. |
| [19:50:05] | philw: | I'm running MythTV on Ubuntu. |
| [19:50:25] | deepthink: | the-FoX, thanks. But I want to watch the live feed as it's beeing recorded |
| [19:50:36] | philw: | I've populated the program database using tv_grab_uk_rt and that's cool. |
| [19:50:49] | Anduin: | philw: What happens when you switch channels? |
| [19:51:06] | philw: | It pauses for a second, and then continues on the same channel. |
| [19:51:15] | the-FoX: | do |
| [19:51:20] | philw: | The only channel I ever received is whatever I've tuned in using ivtv-tune. |
| [19:51:27] | Anduin: | philw: What does the backend log say? |
| [19:51:36] | the-FoX: | philw: do you switch channels by entering channel number or pressing arrow keys ? |
| [19:52:27] | philw: | Either doesn't work. |
| [19:52:35] | the-FoX: | philw: maybe you want to switch to a channel number which hasn't set correctly the frequency values? check your mythbackend log. maybe restart your mythbackend with parms: -v channels |
| [19:52:38] | philw: | Heh. The logs, I think, might contain the answer.. |
| [19:52:53] | Anduin: | They often do. |
| [19:53:04] | philw: | 2006-04–12 20:20:23.385 Error, couldn't find any available channels. |
| [19:53:06] | philw: | 2006-04–12 20:20:23.386 Your database is most likely setup incorrectly. |
| [19:53:08] | philw: | Heh. |
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| [19:53:47] | hashbang: | deepthink: you need to watch the recording in progress from media library->recorded programs |
| [19:59:02] | deepthink: | hashbang, thanks |
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| [20:08:11] | Jykke: | does anybody have experience with combined dvb and analogue tuner card? |
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| [20:09:17] | Jykke: | I am having a problem with setting up the sources – card runs ok |
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| [20:20:47] | simon_c: | Hummmm. Does anyone know how to tell mythbackend not to use ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt to get it's database info from ? I'd like it go into /etc |
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| [20:23:15] | Juski: | simon_c: why? |
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| [20:23:32] | Criggie: | I;d like to know whats in the list of things to record, if they're not coming up in the next week.... |
| [20:23:37] | Criggie: | is that possible? |
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| [20:24:02] | simon_c: | Juski: I'm working on a suse RPM for mythtv, and storing config info in /etc is the "right thing" |
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| [20:25:15] | laga: | simon_c: well, the debian packages do that, i believe. |
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| [20:25:30] | Jykke: | actually my problem would not be different if I had two cards one digital and one analogue |
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| [20:26:22] | Anduin: | simon_c: /etc/mythtv is already looked at. |
| [20:26:27] | simon_c: | laga: hummm. |
| [20:26:41] | simon_c: | Anduin: Ahhh. thanks. |
| [20:26:46] | ** simon_c checks ** | |
| [20:28:08] | Jykke: | is it possible to define one channel so that with "Y" key I switch between analogue and digital input source |
| [20:28:12] | simon_c: | Anduin: Humm. Not on my system. Do you know if that was an SVN change, or should it be in 0.19 ? |
| [20:28:28] | Anduin: | simon_c: Look in oldsettings.cpp |
| [20:29:48] | ** simon_c 's brain melts. ** | |
| [20:30:41] | Anduin: | simon_c: How do you know it isn't looked at? |
| [20:31:49] | simon_c: | I copied /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt to /etc/mythtv then renamed mysql.txt to something else. and started mythbackend. The log sais "unable to read ocnfiguration file mysql.txt" |
| [20:32:10] | simon_c: | Anduin: Doh !! |
| [20:32:12] | Anduin: | simon_c: Are you building with the default prefix? |
| [20:32:25] | simon_c: | Anduin: I bet /etc/mythtv is directory |
| [20:32:36] | Anduin: | It is. |
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| [20:35:20] | simon_c: | Anduin: Creating /etc/mythtv and putting mysql.txt in there hasn't helped. Just checking the --prefix |
| [20:36:02] | Ruis: | what does this error mean: 2006-04–12 14:29:38.729 NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back |
| [20:36:21] | Ruis: | i get that when I try to watch tv. i get a black screen, then after a while, i get kicked back to the myth menu. |
| [20:37:49] | simon_c: | Anduin: --prefix is /usr in the configure. |
| [20:38:43] | Anduin: | simon_c: then /usr/etc/mythtv/ |
| [20:39:21] | simon_c: | Anduin: just this seccond seen that in oldsettings.cpp |
| [20:39:34] | simon_c: | Anduin: Thanks. |
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| [20:47:17] | Anduin: | Ruis: Which capture card are you using? |
| [20:47:22] | Ruis: | pvr500 |
| [20:47:45] | Anduin: | Ruis: You configured the wrong card type. |
| [20:47:55] | Ruis: | where do I fix that? |
| [20:48:01] | Ruis: | and what should it be? |
| [20:48:15] | Anduin: | Ruis: mythtv-setup and choose the mpeg2 hardware encoding card type |
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| [20:49:30] | Ruis: | Anduin, when I'm in there, it doesn't allow me to change the card type. it just says v4l |
| [20:50:56] | Anduin: | Ruis: Did you build myth yourself? |
| [20:51:00] | Ruis: | yes |
| [20:51:05] | simon_c: | Anduin: yep, that's the puppy. |
| [20:51:31] | simon_c: | Anduin: And, looking at mythcontext.cpp, I can set MYTHCONFDIR to override it :-) Thanks for the pointers |
| [20:52:06] | Anduin: | Yeah, I thought maybe MYTHCONFDIR would be too invasive, but you can see it is all there. |
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| [20:53:12] | Ruis: | how do i add support for other card types? |
| [20:53:17] | Anduin: | Ruis: mythfrontend --version shows using_ivtv? |
| [20:53:21] | simon_c: | Anduin: Does mythconfdir override config files for the frontend related apps too does it ? |
| [20:53:46] | Anduin: | simon_c: That is common code, it is a general override (not that there are many settings files). |
| [20:54:30] | simon_c: | Anduin: Ahhh. |
| [20:54:32] | ** simon_c ponders ** | |
| [20:54:34] | Ruis: | Anduin, yes, it shows using_ivtv |
| [20:55:05] | Anduin: | Ruis: Then delete and readd the card (though you should see a combo box that lets you switch). |
| [20:55:49] | Ruis: | Anduin, i tried that. no combo box. |
| [20:57:16] | Anduin: | Ruis: When you go to Capture Cards, what does your actual card line say? |
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| [20:58:53] | Ruis: | Anduin, V4L: /dev/video0 |
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| [20:59:20] | Anduin: | Yeah, delete that card, add the right one. |
| [20:59:34] | Anduin: | It will look like MPEG: /dev/video- |
| [20:59:35] | Ruis: | i can't add any other besides that one. |
| [20:59:35] | Anduin: | 0 |
| [20:59:47] | simon_c: | Anduin: But, even just hacking the file location in oldsettings.cpp, will still effect mythfrontend as well as mythbackend won't it. |
| [20:59:55] | Ruis: | when I add a card, it automatically assigns it to v4l, and doesn't let me change it. |
| [21:00:02] | Anduin: | simon_c: Yes, common lib. |
| [21:00:13] | simon_c: | Anduin: Unmmm. |
| [21:00:23] | Anduin: | Ruis: That simply isn't true, press the right arrow key. |
| [21:01:51] | Ruis: | Anduin, i'm an idiot. i couldn't tell when that combo box was selected and it didn't have a down arrow on it. i just tried hitting the right arrow and it changed it. |
| [21:02:04] | Ruis: | sorry. and thanks. :) |
| [21:02:18] | Anduin: | Ruis: Yes, the controls are working against you (it isn't just you). |
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| [21:12:02] | Ruis: | ok. now I have picture, but no audio. my sound card is working, as i'm getting gnome sounds coming through it. |
| [21:12:09] | Ruis: | no errors as far as i can tell. |
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| [21:12:56] | Anduin: | Ruis: In a cat test did you get sound? |
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| [21:13:37] | Anduin: | Ruis: did you dmesg and make sure the cxblah firmware loaded as well? |
| [21:13:49] | Ruis: | what cat test? |
| [21:13:52] | Ruis: | i'll check dmesg |
| [21:13:57] | Peit|home: | can anyone here explain how to get 2 channels to be seen as one by the scheduler, (one channel on pvr-350, the other on dvb-s) |
| [21:14:14] | Anduin: | Ruis: cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg then wait, ctrl-c, play |
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| [21:15:59] | Peit|home: | did that make any sense? |
| [21:16:15] | kormoc: | Peit|home, you can't |
| [21:16:19] | Ruis: | Anduin, [ 41.419787] cx25840 0–0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes) |
| [21:16:23] | Ruis: | is that what you're looking for? |
| [21:16:27] | Ruis: | i'll do the cat test right now. |
| [21:16:55] | Peit|home: | kormoc :( so i can't say record this program on 'bbc 1' ? rather than record this program on channel 1 |
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| [21:17:02] | kazan: | hey guys |
| [21:17:06] | kazan: | recording priority |
| [21:17:17] | kazan: | > = more important or < more important? |
| [21:17:28] | kormoc: | kazan, what would make sense? |
| [21:17:41] | kormoc: | Peit|home, afaik, aye |
| [21:17:57] | jasta: | i'd guess that -20 would be good :) |
| [21:18:09] | Peit|home: | ho hum, i suppose i'll have to be a bit more handson with the sheduling then |
| [21:18:47] | Ruis: | Anduin, the cat test shows (skewed) video, but no audio. |
| [21:18:51] | kazan: | kormoc: that's an interesting question and it depends on who you ask :P |
| [21:19:07] | kazan: | IIE the lower the number the higher the priority with nice |
| [21:19:12] | kazan: | but most peolpe don't think like a kernel developer |
| [21:19:15] | kazan: | but we're on linux |
| [21:19:20] | kazan: | so see the source of my confusion :P |
| [21:19:27] | kazan: | +you |
| [21:19:35] | kormoc: | kazan, actually, but that's not backwards at all, a – nice value isn't nice |
| [21:20:03] | kormoc: | kazan, but in anycase, higher priority means more likely to be recorded |
| [21:20:42] | kazan: | k |
| [21:20:48] | ** kazan sets MLS Soccer to 15 :D ** | |
| [21:21:26] | kazan: | once my PVR-500 gets here i doubt i'll ever run a conflict |
| [21:22:07] | kazan: | same true with tuner priority? |
| [21:22:15] | kormoc: | yes |
| [21:22:19] | kazan: | k |
| [21:22:26] | Anduin: | Ruis: The picture in myth looks good though? |
| [21:22:28] | kazan: | my PVR-500s will be set to 5 and 4 :D |
| [21:22:44] | kazan: | (each head on it) |
| [21:22:50] | kormoc: | if they're all the same, like the pvr500, might as well not bother setting anything |
| [21:22:51] | kazan: | bttv is at default [0] |
| [21:23:04] | kazan: | i'll have a PVR-500 and a BTTV |
| [21:23:15] | kormoc: | drop the bttv, it's not gonna compair at all |
| [21:23:26] | kazan: | i'll be like 5 PVR-500–1, 5 PVR-500–2 and 0 BTTV |
| [21:23:47] | kazan: | BTTV will eventually be used to slave my digital cable box |
| [21:24:11] | kormoc: | you could just say, capture from firewire if it's a hd box |
| [21:24:15] | kazan: | oh.. everyone check out todays thedailywtf |
| [21:24:18] | Ruis: | Anduin, not really. you think it could be a reception problem? |
| [21:24:20] | kazan: | it's not an HD box |
| [21:24:22] | kazan: | and i don't have firewire |
| [21:24:35] | kormoc: | too bad, all digital captures are awesome |
| [21:24:37] | Anduin: | Ruis: Or frequency table. |
| [21:24:37] | kazan: | i won't have an HDTV till next year |
| [21:24:51] | Ruis: | Anduin, wouldn't i hear static though? |
| [21:24:52] | kormoc: | that's not really a issue |
| [21:24:58] | kazan: | then i'll get a firewire card, a OTA HDTV tuner, and a HD digital box |
| [21:25:08] | Anduin: | Ruis: No. |
| [21:25:10] | kazan: | and probably a 300gb harddrive to add to my lvm |
| [21:25:10] | kormoc: | get a cheap firewire card, pay the $5 a month to get hdtv and capture away |
| [21:25:21] | kormoc: | kazan, why the OTA tuner when you can get direct from the box? |
| [21:25:37] | kazan: | but i just bought glasses, PVR500, fish stuff, have to fix a small exhaust problem on our current car, buy another car, and i'm getting married |
| [21:25:46] | kazan: | my financial plate for the year is filled |
| [21:25:58] | kormoc: | fair nuff, and congratz |
| [21:26:03] | kazan: | ty :D |
| [21:26:09] | kazan: | OTA for local channels |
| [21:26:21] | kazan: | be able to tune two HD streams at once on local channels |
| [21:26:23] | kormoc: | you can get them via the cable box |
| [21:26:25] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [21:26:26] | kormoc: | fair nuff |
| [21:27:15] | meushi: | kazan: it still doesn't Paula (thedailywtf) |
| [21:28:03] | kazan: | wha? |
| [21:28:28] | kazan: | it still doesn't "paula"?! |
| [21:28:30] | kazan: | wtf |
| [21:28:50] | meushi: | *beat*, sorry :) |
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| [21:31:03] | meushi: | kazan: it's quite mad that people write stuff like that, tho |
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| [21:35:04] | kormoc: | kazan, paula was a consultant who's been featured on dailywtf a few times. After three months or so, he 'going great' project was alert('Paulas awesome'); or similar |
| [21:36:29] | meushi: | kormoc: Brillant! |
| [21:37:17] | kormoc: | ahh, right :) |
| [21:37:21] | kormoc: | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/40043/ShowPost.aspx |
| [21:37:27] | kormoc: | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/63858/ShowPost.aspx |
| [21:38:33] | kazan: | hehe |
| [21:38:48] | kazan: | i've only recently started reading thedailywtf after some of my coworkers were talking about it |
| [21:39:59] | meushi: | kazan: for laughs, you can also add perversiontracker.com to your readings... some apps there deserve a WTF just for existing |
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| [21:47:02] | kazan: | hehe |
| [21:47:15] | kazan: | admittedly i wander the net alot when i don't have anything pressing |
| [21:47:19] | kazan: | and sometimes when i have things too pressing |
| [21:47:38] | kazan: | like i really shouldn't be logged into irc right now – i should be designing the database for this application i have to rewrite pronto :D |
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| [21:48:19] | kazan: | instead i'm reading the net, irc and playing around with my branch of our framework :D |
| [21:49:24] | kazan: | haha someone on the mailing list is bitching about Myth stuttering... on an 800mhz box |
| [21:49:53] | kormoc: | meushi, sadly, the only issue with perversiontracker.com is the lack of updates |
| [21:50:26] | kazan: | 800mhz VIA EPIA board |
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| [22:06:37] | psofa: | can someone tell me how will i make dvbscan see dvb-t channels? the only thing i know is that the channel i want is frequency UHF, channel 48 |
| [22:07:29] | psofa: | dvbscan wants these T freq bw fec_hi fec_lo mod transmission-mode guard-interval hierarchy |
| [22:08:40] | Deathwish`: | 0.18 Myth? |
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| [22:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Hi, all. I know there is no "0.19-fixes" listed on the Trac roadmap, but there is a branch. Any guesstimates as to how close that might be to official release? |
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| [22:20:07] | GreyFoxx: | very maybe never |
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| [22:20:51] | achew22: | hello all |
| [22:21:42] | achew22: | when I run mythfrontend I get an error ("mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmythavcodec-0.19.so.0: undefined symbol: png_encoder") how do I fix that? |
| [22:26:43] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: That's what I was afraid of. Ah, well, onward and upward to 0.20. :) |
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| [22:29:42] | meushi: | gnite |
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| [22:55:02] | xris: | GreyFoxx: got a sec to chat? |
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| [23:15:55] | ShockValue: | hi all.. im having some trouble with digital OTA broadcasts...: |
| [23:16:26] | ShockValue: | anything sent in 16:9, works great. anything sent in 4:3 gives me "NVP: Prebuffering Pause" every couple seconds and makes the audio+video stutter |
| [23:16:42] | ShockValue: | it seems weird to me that something with /less/ data would cause problems :) |
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| [23:18:04] | ShockValue: | its a 2.5ghz machine with 1g ram and a good drive (hdparm tweaked for speed).. HDTV, DVD, regular (cable) tv all works dandy.. just not 4:3 OTA digital coming in through the HD3000 card |
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| [23:20:47] | xris: | ShockValue: I have similar issues with OTA and with my firewire connection |
| [23:21:00] | ShockValue: | is it just 4:3 or all for you? |
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| [23:23:11] | psofa: | how do i switch between inputs? |
| [23:23:20] | psofa: | i have a dvb-s and dvb-t card |
| [23:23:43] | ShockValue: | "Y" |
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| [23:24:31] | iamsthitha: | hello again |
| [23:27:39] | enyc: | meep |
| [23:27:40] | JasonX: | I am trying to get a 16:9 video to play full screen at the bottom of my 4:3 screen (ie big black bar above, none below) with little success -geometry 0:300 seems to make no difference |
| [23:27:51] | JasonX: | using mplayer that is |
| [23:28:23] | JasonX: | cmd = /usr/bin/mplayer -monitoraspect 1.7777 -ao alsa:device=default -ac hwac3, -srate 48000 -fs -vo xv -cache 16384 -geometry 0:300 "/myth/video/pc/test/Cinderella Man.avi" |
| [23:28:36] | iamsthitha: | has anyone undertaken a project in making an embedded system that runs mythtv? |
| [23:29:17] | psofa: | if i use the channel scanner of mythtv will i have to do mythfilldatabase? |
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| [23:30:13] | ShockValue: | i think so.. if you want guide data |
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| [23:32:18] | simon_c: | Anduin: Still about ? |
| [23:32:44] | Anduin: | simon_c: Yes. |
| [23:33:13] | Cromz: | iamsthitha, embedded as how? cause there is knoppmyth and mythdora which are basicly myth and os on a cd. knoppmyth can run off the cd where mythfora is a install app style. |
| [23:33:55] | Cromz: | er mythdora |
| [23:34:06] | simon_c: | Anduin: Trying to use MYTHCONFDIR to set the conf dir for the back end. If I'm reading the code right, it's just ignored anyway isn't it ? |
| [23:34:39] | simon_c: | doesn't dir.replace("$HOME", QDir::homeDirPath()); overwrite it ? (line 1107 in mythcontext.cpp )? |
| [23:34:52] | ** simon_c isn't a coder. ** | |
| [23:35:09] | iamsthitha: | Cromz, I mean on an embedded computer... |
| [23:35:18] | iamsthitha: | like... the ones at www.linuxdevices.com |
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| [23:36:20] | Cromz: | ah.. not that I've seen.. |
| [23:36:44] | RuisHome: | so I've got my box hooked up to comcast cable, but I'm not able to get good reception. i've been playing with the frequency table setting, but it doesn't seem to be changing anything. any ideas? |
| [23:37:18] | iamsthitha: | well I found a linux distro with mythtv that's for embedded systems.. but it doesnt really have a website.. and I'd like to know what kind of specs I need to get mythtv on an embedded system |
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| [23:43:28] | psofa: | has anyone tried the new nvidia drivers? |
| [23:43:40] | psofa: | with xvmc/ogl |
| [23:45:04] | ShockValue: | new ones today? |
| [23:45:13] | psofa: | ShockValue, not today |
| [23:45:22] | Anduin: | simon_c: It reads them all, so not overwrite as much as later ones override. |
| [23:45:27] | psofa: | there have been around for a week or two |
| [23:45:34] | ShockValue: | oic |
| [23:45:42] | ShockValue: | better update my box and give it a go :) |
| [23:45:56] | ShockValue: | i'd love to get rid ofthis stupid prebuffering pause error |
| [23:47:54] | ShockValue: | why the hell do people post things on craigs list like "boat for sale – call 231-313–5221" .. i mean duh.. its the fricken boat section of the classified ads. |
| [23:48:09] | ** ShockValue gets cranky ** | |
| [23:48:47] | simon_c: | Anduin: Thanks, but I don't understand your answer. :-/ |
| [23:49:05] | hd420: | anyone have directv here? |
| [23:49:10] | ShockValue: | i do |
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| [23:50:46] | kormoc: | psofa, they work fine, with the usual xv issues |
| [23:50:49] | simon_c: | Anduin: But, it's getting very late, and Im going to bed. I'll look at it fresh tomorrow. |
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| [23:50:59] | psofa: | kormoc, usual xv issues? |
| [23:51:03] | hd420: | ShockValue: I have an R15 at home, which I use as a PVR, but also have a D11, which I got with the service, which isn't activated, if I swap the access card from the R15 to the D11, is there anything more needed? |
| [23:51:11] | psofa: | do they work with xvmc/opengl? |
| [23:51:25] | kormoc: | psofa, xv/xvmc screens will always be rendered on the top of the window stack, no matter what's above them |
| [23:51:34] | drdaz: | hola... anybody have any idea why myth does nothing when I tell it to scan for new music? I'm getting no errors from either the front or backend really... just the frontend says "you seem to have no tracks. thats ok with me if its ok with you." |
| [23:51:41] | ShockValue: | hd420 – oh, emm.. im not really sure.. i think you have to call them and tell em you switched.. but not sure, sorry :/ |
| [23:51:46] | drdaz: | mythmusic I mean |
| [23:51:59] | psofa: | kormoc, only that? |
| [23:52:03] | kormoc: | psofa, yup |
| [23:52:11] | psofa: | i used to get severe stutter with ogl timing |
| [23:52:14] | ShockValue: | drdaz – you set it to point at the right directory, and there are music files there? |
| [23:52:20] | drdaz: | yep and yep |
| [23:52:24] | drdaz: | permissions are good too |
| [23:52:28] | ShockValue: | hmm.. what format? |
| [23:52:31] | kormoc: | psofa, that was fixed |
| [23:52:35] | psofa: | nice |
| [23:52:42] | psofa: | damn |
| [23:52:58] | psofa: | still in both dvn-t and dvb-s tuning takes 5 secs |
| [23:52:58] | kormoc: | and the XV issue only shows up when composite it enabled, btw |
| [23:53:00] | drdaz: | mixed... I've had the same directory working in mythmusic before too... just had to reinstall linux recently |
| [23:53:20] | psofa: | with different cards |
| [23:53:24] | psofa: | so that must be myth |
| [23:53:26] | drdaz: | ogg and mp3 only tho |
| [23:53:32] | drdaz: | mostly ogg |
| [23:53:40] | psofa: | kormoc, are there any tuning specific fices in svn? |
| [23:53:50] | ShockValue: | kormoc: any clue why i would get prebuffering pauses with 4:3 content, but not 16:9 content with OTA digital broadcasts? |
| [23:53:51] | psofa: | *fixes |
| [23:54:03] | mchou: | anyone here have any experience with mobile racks and linux? |
| [23:54:09] | kormoc: | psofa, a few might be in the 0.19-fixes, but nothing that will speed it up |
| [23:54:18] | psofa: | :/ |
| [23:54:19] | kormoc: | ShockValue, hrm. that's just wacky. |
| [23:54:26] | ShockValue: | drdaz – thats weirdness |
| [23:54:34] | drdaz: | no kidding :( |
| [23:54:59] | kormoc: | ShockValue, can you try playing the x:3 in mplayer/xine and see if that works right? |
| [23:55:04] | ShockValue: | kormoc – yeah tell me about it... i was watching CSI (16:9) and it was fine.. CSI got over, and Oprah came on (4:3) and it started to stutter.. no other change |
| [23:55:06] | psofa: | kormoc, actually it takes 10 secs |
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| [23:55:12] | psofa: | but im getting used to it |
| [23:55:13] | psofa: | :D |
| [23:55:22] | ShockValue: | kormoc – oh thats a great idea.. let me go try that |
| [23:55:24] | drdaz: | horror! oprah stuttering |
| [23:55:30] | ** drdaz shudders ** | |
| [23:55:40] | psofa: | kormoc, is that normal? |
| [23:55:42] | atomjack: | anyone know why when switching from (self compiled) 0.19 to SVN, DVB would stop working? |
| [23:55:44] | ShockValue: | yeah i know, it was just an example... i dont really watch that show.. i swear |
| [23:55:48] | drdaz: | :p |
| [23:56:08] | atomjack: | or, is there a patch I can apply the 0.19 source to make bookmarks in tv recordings work? |
| [23:56:11] | psofa: | maybe something is fixed since kernel 2.6.14? |
| [23:56:20] | kormoc: | psofa, it is about normal. most people just don't watch livetv via myth, so it's an area that doesn't get worked on very much, and it's a bit hard to make shorter |
| [23:56:44] | kormoc: | atomjack, you might want to try 0.19-fixes |
| [23:56:51] | psofa: | kormoc, i really cant see how its hard since szap and tzap tune fine |
| [23:57:01] | kormoc: | psofa, myth has extra layers |
| [23:57:01] | atomjack: | i have |
| [23:57:03] | psofa: | and not to mention another known program :D |
| [23:57:21] | atomjack: | hmm but i'll try it again i guess |
| [23:57:47] | drdaz: | atomjack: your bookmarks arent working at all? |
| [23:57:51] | kormoc: | psofa, it goes myth tells tuner to tune, tuner tunes, tuner waits for frames, tuner sends to myth, myth sends to hard drive, waits a little, myth reads from harddrive, myth decodes and displays video |
| [23:57:56] | atomjack: | no, it won't save bookmarks in 0.19 |
| [23:58:00] | drdaz: | ok |
| [23:58:05] | drdaz: | u checked out the database? |
| [23:58:07] | atomjack: | even though it says it's saving, and i have it set to save them when i exit from watching a program |
| [23:58:10] | atomjack: | hmm |
| [23:58:12] | atomjack: | no i havent |
| [23:58:16] | drdaz: | I had an issue like this |
| [23:58:22] | atomjack: | oh really, what did you do |
| [23:58:26] | atomjack: | which part, i know my way around mysql.. |
| [23:58:37] | psofa: | kormoc, so you are saying these 10 secs are because of the hard drive buffering? |
| [23:58:42] | psofa: | still its too much |
| [23:58:50] | kormoc: | psofa, and the mpeg bufferings around, aye |
| [23:58:55] | drdaz: | lord knows how it happened... but the bookmarks had 'tinyint' as their datatype |
| [23:59:04] | atomjack: | ahhh |
| [23:59:07] | atomjack: | which table? |
| [23:59:12] | ShockValue: | kormoc – ok hows this to throw you for a loop. playing that show in 4:3 makes it stutter, but if i switch it to a 16:9 aspect ratio, it plays just fine. |
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| [23:59:14] | drdaz: | recorded IIRC |
| [23:59:27] | kormoc: | ShockValue, what video card are you using? |
| [23:59:37] | atomjack: | aha |
| [23:59:37] | ShockValue: | kormoc – nvidia 5200 |
| [23:59:39] | atomjack: | yeah it's tinyint(1) |
| [23:59:41] | atomjack: | what should it be? |
| [23:59:48] | drdaz: | int I think |
| [23:59:51] | drdaz: | heh |
| [23:59:52] | atomjack: | ok |
| [23:59:57] | drdaz: | why the hell does that happen? |
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