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| [00:16:24] | sphery: | xris, the new "MythWeb handles recording downloads" code works even with files containing non-ASCII characters. Thanks. |
| [00:17:04] | xris: | sphery: cool.. it's all handled internally by perl, so there's no dealing with urlencoding, etc. |
| [00:17:14] | sphery: | wait a minute... |
| [00:17:21] | sphery: | Just figured out I'm downloading a different show... |
| [00:17:26] | sphery: | Hold on... |
| [00:17:52] | xris: | w00t. firewire. :) |
| [00:18:16] | sphery: | Tried to download a 30-min show with a special char and it downloaded a 2-hour movie. |
| [00:18:21] | sphery: | Got the name of the movie right. |
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| [00:18:29] | sphery: | Don't know why, though... |
| [00:18:35] | sphery: | testing... |
| [00:19:00] | sphery: | Every single link on the recorded programs page is a link to the top recording in the list... |
| [00:19:04] | xris: | ick |
| [00:19:09] | xris: | I must have missed something |
| [00:19:13] | xris: | I bet it caches... ick |
| [00:19:15] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [00:19:27] | sphery: | Convinced me that the special char was working, though. :) |
| [00:19:54] | xris: | yeah |
| [00:19:56] | sphery: | I did prove, however, that 2GiB+ files work on Apache without large file support. |
| [00:19:57] | sphery: | :) |
| [00:20:09] | sphery: | So it's definitely a good thing overall. |
| [00:20:33] | xris: | ok, SOMETHING on my network can't handle HD |
| [00:20:56] | xris: | scary. my desktop can't handle it |
| [00:21:16] | xris: | 114% cpu usage on my 2.8G pentium D |
| [00:21:32] | sphery: | What video? NVIDIA? |
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| [00:22:36] | jesusfish: | anyone ever seen an issue with the tuner's audio driver where it needs to have the recording device reset every time a channel is changed? |
| [00:23:22] | xris: | sphery: check now to see if it grabs the correct show |
| [00:23:31] | sphery: | OK/ |
| [00:25:06] | xris: | awesome... I even get hbo over firewire |
| [00:26:09] | xris: | I guess I can now think about upgrading my mythbox again.... |
| [00:26:14] | ** xris ponders fc5 or fc4 ** | |
| [00:26:34] | sphery: | xris, I get the right show now. |
| [00:26:45] | xris: | sphery: cool, thx for letting me know |
| [00:26:45] | sphery: | (That was a fast fix, BTW.) |
| [00:26:48] | xris: | and glad it works for you |
| [00:26:52] | xris: | php is easy. heh |
| [00:26:59] | sphery: | However, I no longer get the pretty filename. |
| [00:27:08] | sphery: | 1018_ü20060407213000.mpg |
| [00:27:16] | sphery: | for the one with the u with umlaut |
| [00:27:40] | xris: | yeah.. it only gives the title-subtitle name if the file is in native-myth format |
| [00:27:45] | xris: | it assumes that if you renamed it, you want that name |
| [00:27:46] | sphery: | But get a pretty one for Mad About You – The Silent Show.mpg |
| [00:27:53] | sphery: | Oh. |
| [00:27:55] | sphery: | Wow. |
| [00:28:00] | sphery: | Smarter than I am. :) |
| [00:28:13] | sphery: | Excellent. |
| [00:28:14] | xris: | I'll eventually put a format string setting into the settings so it works like mythrename's format stuff |
| [00:28:17] | sphery: | I love it. |
| [00:28:26] | xris: | I'm just glad the cgi stuff was painless |
| [00:28:45] | sphery: | The download is with CGI? |
| [00:28:50] | sphery: | (perl CGI?) |
| [00:28:50] | xris: | yeah |
| [00:29:04] | sphery: | Why not PHP? (I know nothing about PHP.) |
| [00:29:23] | xris: | php can run in cgi mode, but most people run it as a module |
| [00:29:44] | xris: | it's better as a module, but for some stuff — especially the >2G file limit in apache, perl works better |
| [00:29:54] | sphery: | I see. |
| [00:29:56] | sphery: | Interesting. |
| [00:30:02] | xris: | ok, this sucks... myth tries to tune to a nonexistent firewire channel.. no idea how to fix it |
| [00:30:03] | sphery: | Glad you got it all working, though. |
| [00:30:20] | sphery: | Is it remembering the last channel tuned? |
| [00:30:28] | sphery: | BTW, I'll update the threads on the list about the international characters. Thanks, again. |
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| [00:35:09] | Anduin: | xris: cardinput |
| [00:35:28] | xris: | Anduin: thanks |
| [00:38:04] | xris: | this is going to be a LONG list of changing channels to figure out what works and what doesn't. heh |
| [00:38:59] | drdaz: | if I've got a digital source and an analog source with many of the same channels... and I want myth to use both effectively.. whats the best way to go about it? |
| [00:39:16] | drdaz: | I mean... most of the channels are dupes |
| [00:39:32] | drdaz: | so I'd be tempted to use the same 'source' |
| [00:39:46] | drdaz: | but the few that arent could kinda mess things up |
| [00:41:08] | sphery: | xris, are you using the new scanning code that Daniel did this week? |
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| [00:41:24] | sphery: | Oh, wait, with firewire, yours isn't QAM... |
| [00:41:26] | sphery: | nvm. |
| [00:41:33] | xris: | sphery: no |
| [00:41:47] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody using the 8756 drivers noticing weird x dpi? |
| [00:42:15] | sphery: | drdaz: you'll need difference sources (each having only the available channels). |
| [00:42:35] | sphery: | However, if you give each duplicate channel the same callsign, Myth will recognize they're dups. |
| [00:43:28] | drdaz: | ok... and it will select a free source automagically if one of my cards is recording, say? |
| [00:44:21] | drdaz: | I'd tried doing this with channel numbers instead of callsigns... with mixed and strange results |
| [00:44:50] | sphery: | that would probably confuse it. |
| [00:44:57] | sphery: | With same callsign, Myth should handle it. |
| [00:45:04] | drdaz: | hmm thx |
| [00:45:09] | drdaz: | I'll give that a bash |
| [00:45:12] | sphery: | np |
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| [01:00:44] | xris: | ok, weird... I can't seem to clear my oldrecorded cached info |
| [01:05:16] | xris: | oh, heh.. stuff still stuck in my recorded list on disk |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | yeah, nvidia 8756 seems to be doing ok |
| [01:08:28] | xris: | mchou: any ideas why my 2.8G pentium D can't play HD? |
| [01:08:42] | mchou: | xris: huh?? |
| [01:08:44] | xris: | heck, can't even play some SD stuff in TS |
| [01:08:52] | xris: | 100% cpu usage decoding SD TS file |
| [01:08:58] | mchou: | xris: I just came on. What's the issue? |
| [01:09:06] | xris: | that's the first I've mentioned it |
| [01:09:36] | mchou: | first cat /poc/cpuinfo to make sure it's not underclocked :) |
| [01:09:40] | mchou: | proc* |
| [01:09:54] | xris: | yeah, it's fine |
| [01:11:06] | xris: | manually scanning firewire channels is really annoying. |
| [01:11:07] | mchou: | so it cant even play sd? that's a bit weird. xdpyinfo have xv? |
| [01:12:39] | mchou: | also make sure your cpu isnt burning up :) |
| [01:13:12] | xris: | yeah, it's weird... can't even play HD with xvmc |
| [01:13:31] | xris: | only using 23% cpu with xvmc |
| [01:13:34] | mchou: | what display driver is this? |
| [01:14:29] | xris: | nvidia 8178 |
| [01:14:37] | mchou: | lol |
| [01:14:41] | mchou: | dont use that |
| [01:14:51] | xris: | overclocking seems to help a little bit |
| [01:14:55] | xris: | what should I use instead? |
| [01:15:01] | mchou: | or if you want to use that turn off gl vsync |
| [01:15:08] | mchou: | 8756 |
| [01:15:11] | xris: | I just did, actually |
| [01:15:40] | mchou: | 8178 is bugged |
| [01:16:09] | GreyFoxx: | A new Nvidia drivercame out in the last week ? |
| [01:16:10] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [01:16:10] | xris: | ah, cool, 8756 wasn't available earier today from livna... had trouble installing it by hand awhile back |
| [01:16:19] | xris: | GreyFoxx: so I dumped dish. heh |
| [01:16:39] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Oh ? |
| [01:16:49] | GreyFoxx: | <<-- Just got home from his wedding/honeymoon trip |
| [01:16:55] | xris: | comcast hooked me up for about $10 cheaper with more channels and free hbo for a year |
| [01:16:56] | GreyFoxx: | I'm a week behind on a LOT of email hehe |
| [01:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | nice! |
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| [01:17:04] | GreyFoxx: | good deal |
| [01:17:19] | xris: | so I get a nice firewire port... and can pick up my own lnb to play with the dvb card |
| [01:17:50] | GreyFoxx: | they enable firewire ? Do they scale it down or full res ? |
| [01:18:05] | xris: | full res on the stations I've tried... |
| [01:18:10] | xris: | only tried local hd, though |
| [01:18:14] | xris: | nothing else HD is on at the moment |
| [01:18:15] | mchou: | xris: yeah, enquiring minds wanna know |
| [01:18:38] | mchou: | xris: were locals full rez of fw? |
| [01:18:45] | mchou: | over* |
| [01:18:53] | xris: | mchou: looks like it. I can't tell 1080 and 720 apart on this screen |
| [01:19:06] | mchou: | xris: use mplayer -identify |
| [01:19:41] | xris: | mchou: I'm still going through and testing each channel individually (seems some channels don't come in over firewire — only one so far is vh1, though) |
| [01:19:58] | mchou: | haha |
| [01:20:04] | xris: | anyway, I need to reboot for new kernel and nvidia drivers... back in a bit. |
| [01:20:06] | mchou: | vh1 is not local |
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| [01:24:59] | jim_u: | Alright, this problem which seems to progressivly get worse, is really starting to make me displeased with mythtv. I set things to record, and it creates tyhe entry but never records, i hit watch and it says the file is missing. also in the logs it yaps about trying to autoexpire shows but the file is missing |
| [01:25:35] | k-man_: | anyone here using xine as their dvd/vidoe player in myth? |
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| [01:31:41] | k-man_: | also, whats a good remote control for mythtv? |
| [01:31:52] | Anduin: | jim_u: Check permissions |
| [01:32:09] | jim_u: | Anduin, on what? |
| [01:32:34] | Anduin: | jim_u: At a minimum, the directory where recordings are written. |
| [01:32:48] | jim_u: | well, sometimes it records |
| [01:32:50] | jim_u: | others it doesnt |
| [01:33:18] | jim_u: | plus the backend is run as root |
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| [01:36:49] | Anduin: | jim_u: What is being auto-expired? (Yes I get the files aren't there, but auto-expire is trying to delete things for a reason) |
| [01:37:08] | Anduin: | k-man_: Yes, many use xine, at least until the internal player gets as good. |
| [01:37:36] | jim_u: | Anduin, well its some random file, could you tell me what the file name means so i can manually delete it? (its just one thats trying to be auto expired) |
| [01:37:59] | Anduin: | jim_u: It is chanid_starttime |
| [01:38:17] | jim_u: | what is? |
| [01:38:30] | jim_u: | and i think its only on my ivtv tuner that its doing it, and the ones on the bttv are recording |
| [01:38:41] | Anduin: | jim_u: The file, you can find out what it actually is by looking in the recorded tables. |
| [01:39:05] | jim_u: | sure |
| [01:39:10] | Anduin: | jim_u: You can also create a dummy file. |
| [01:39:20] | jim_u: | for? |
| [01:39:25] | jim_u: | ooh! |
| [01:39:26] | jim_u: | i get it |
| [01:39:58] | jim_u: | so, i have 3 tuners in my backend, 2 ivtv and 1 bttv, would it mean something to you if i told you that the ivtv ones aren't recording (created but file missing) and the bttv ones are actually being recorded? |
| [01:40:25] | Anduin: | jim_u: If might mean the ivtv ones are setup properly. |
| [01:40:34] | Anduin: | are not |
| [01:41:02] | Anduin: | jim_u: a "cat test" works for them? |
| [01:41:08] | jim_u: | what do you mean?> |
| [01:41:11] | jim_u: | i can go in the frontend |
| [01:41:13] | jim_u: | and watch tv using them |
| [01:41:24] | jim_u: | which is why i never thought it could possibly be a problem |
| [01:41:34] | jim_u: | but i've checked well... everythign i thought of |
| [01:41:41] | Anduin: | Yeah, watching live tv does the same thing as recording... |
| [01:41:52] | Anduin: | .19? |
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| [01:42:42] | jim_u: | heh (don't yell) svn |
| [01:42:47] | jim_u: | so that can't be it? |
| [01:42:51] | jim_u: | this is quite irritating |
| [01:44:25] | Anduin: | Nothing useful in the backend logs? |
| [01:45:04] | jim_u: | no, i didn't have the right things set to go in the logs i don't think |
| [01:45:08] | jim_u: | i switched it to include more information |
| [01:46:17] | Anduin: | bad errors should always show in the logs, which verbose flags are you passing now? |
| [01:47:23] | jim_u: | record,playback,hannel,osd,file,schedule,network,audio,libav,jobqueue |
| [01:47:38] | jim_u: | 2006-04–08 21:47:29.163 read <- 14 49 QUERY_FILETRANSFER 15[]:[]REQUEST_BLOCK[]:[]32768 |
| [01:47:38] | jim_u: | 2006-04–08 21:47:29.164 write -> 14 5 32768 |
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| [01:47:43] | jim_u: | what are those, they take up so much space in the log |
| [01:48:25] | Anduin: | jim_u: protocol debugging, if you wanted to do them all you could have just done -v all (but all is overkill, as you're discovering) |
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| [01:49:35] | jim_u: | ugh i wish this one was an easy one to fix |
| [01:49:56] | jim_u: | so theres onthing that the ivtv tuners could be incorrectly setup where i could watch tv but not record? |
| [01:50:59] | Anduin: | Not that I can think of right now. Try just a -v record and see if anything useful turns up. |
| [01:53:17] | jim_u: | alright |
| [01:54:02] | jim_u: | theres so much there |
| [01:54:06] | jim_u: | would you care to take a look at it? |
| [01:54:21] | Anduin: | Sure, throw it up on some pastebin. |
| [01:54:48] | jim_u: | uh |
| [01:54:50] | jim_u: | will tghey suppor tit? |
| [01:54:59] | Anduin: | It is just text. |
| [01:55:06] | jim_u: | 2.0 megs at the moment |
| [01:55:12] | jim_u: | and it was running for a very short period of time |
| [01:55:25] | Anduin: | jim_u: Can you put it someplace then? |
| [01:55:30] | jim_u: | hold on |
| [01:55:45] | Anduin: | Or we can test out gaim's DCC |
| [01:57:53] | xris: | ok, this is weird... my computer has less trouble decoding HD than it does some of these SD streams |
| [01:58:16] | jim_u: | get the message and does the link work for ya? |
| [02:00:29] | Anduin: | jim_u: No message at this end. |
| [02:00:40] | jim_u: | i /msg you |
| [02:00:42] | jim_u: | you didn't get link? |
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| [02:00:48] | jim_u: | http://jim.psunit.com:454/~jim/mythbackend.log |
| [02:01:00] | jim_u: | there |
| [02:01:25] | Anduin: | jim_u: You aren't registered. |
| [02:01:30] | jim_u: | oooh |
| [02:01:51] | jim_u: | i wasn't upstairs where i am heh |
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| [02:02:34] | imperfect-: | Anyone here used pvm? |
| [02:02:38] | Anduin: | jim_u: You still have all debugging turned on. |
| [02:02:52] | jim_u: | how do i turn debugging off? |
| [02:03:00] | jim_u: | wait |
| [02:03:08] | jim_u: | you wanted me to take all that verbose stuff off of there? |
| [02:03:14] | jim_u: | how do you want me to run it? |
| [02:03:20] | Anduin: | jim_u: It is ok. |
| [02:03:41] | Anduin: | jim_u: Just saying that -v record only should have been enough. |
| [02:03:50] | jim_u: | oh just record |
| [02:03:51] | jim_u: | alright |
| [02:04:17] | Anduin: | jim_u: It is failing to set the channel. |
| [02:04:38] | jim_u: | what is? |
| [02:04:40] | jim_u: | where? |
| [02:04:49] | jim_u: | and how do i fix it? |
| [02:05:28] | Anduin: | jim_u: Line 7163 in the file you posted. It should be a perms issue, or, a listings one. |
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| [02:05:47] | jim_u: | er, well its run as root, that should get rid of all perms issues right? |
| [02:05:52] | Anduin: | jum_u: or you upgraded to 2.6.16 and didn't reconfigure |
| [02:06:08] | Anduin: | jim_u: Yes, running as root should make it not a perms issue. |
| [02:06:24] | jim_u: | i haven't changed kernels |
| [02:06:27] | jim_u: | since in installed the box |
| [02:06:37] | jim_u: | 2.6.13-gentoo-r3 |
| [02:06:46] | jim_u: | i updated the ivtv driver tho |
| [02:06:47] | alex777: | ok, here's a question, if I manually put in a channel in the database and I populate the program through my own means, will that interfere with mythfilldatabase ? |
| [02:07:03] | Anduin: | jim_u: To which ivtv version? |
| [02:07:21] | jim_u: | media-tv/ivtv-0.4.2 |
| [02:07:32] | jim_u: | but, it was doing that before the upgrade |
| [02:07:33] | Anduin: | jim_u: Ok, it isn't a tuner name issue. |
| [02:07:41] | jim_u: | it definatly isn't? |
| [02:07:44] | mchou: | jim_u: you need to run mythtv-setup on your backend again |
| [02:08:00] | jim_u: | and change what? |
| [02:08:05] | mchou: | the tuner number has changed |
| [02:08:15] | mchou: | jim_u: RTFM ivtv |
| [02:08:39] | jim_u: | since i changed the tuner, i ran mythtv-setup and it went from having TUNER 0 TUNER 1 to just Tuner |
| [02:09:26] | mchou: | then restart mythbackend and everything should be cool |
| [02:09:34] | jim_u: | its been restarted quite a few times |
| [02:10:06] | mchou: | then run mythbackend in a console and tell us what the error msg are then |
| [02:10:23] | mchou: | cause you arent giving us any info to go on |
| [02:11:08] | mchou: | even watching livetv should tell you what's wrong |
| [02:11:35] | jim_u: | i can watch live tv.. |
| [02:12:04] | mchou: | then schedule a recording to start asap |
| [02:12:17] | mchou: | and then tell us what's wrong |
| [02:12:20] | jim_u: | i just scheduled one, i'm looking at the out from -v record |
| [02:12:31] | Anduin: | mchou: He posted a large log several lines up. |
| [02:12:43] | mchou: | Anduin: I dont have it |
| [02:13:05] | mchou: | jim_u: post the linky again |
| [02:13:15] | jim_u: | http://jim.psunit.com:454/~jim/mythbackend.log |
| [02:13:21] | jim_u: | large file, with too much output |
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| [02:14:08] | jim_u: | http://pastebin.com/648777 |
| [02:14:11] | jim_u: | does that tell you anything? |
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| [02:15:19] | Anduin: | jim_u: Not as much as http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/SZrmZL17.html (from the large initial log) |
| [02:15:56] | jim_u: | 2006-04–08 21:50:13.256 Channel(/dev/v4l/video1): SetInputAndFormat() failed |
| [02:15:59] | jim_u: | that doesn't look healthy |
| [02:16:03] | jim_u: | video1 is the ivtv |
| [02:16:47] | jim_u: | but i went in, and tyhe default for video{1,2} is Tuner, and then in input connections they are set to my one and only video source |
| [02:17:33] | Anduin: | jim_u: And the program guide is ok? |
| [02:17:45] | jim_u: | it looks fine... what do you mean by ok? |
| [02:17:53] | Anduin: | jim_u: There. |
| [02:18:07] | jim_u: | what? |
| [02:18:26] | Anduin: | jim_u: Just that you had data for the channel and time. |
| [02:18:49] | jim_u: | yea i have guide data |
| [02:19:11] | jim_u: | but that line up there, doesn't look good at all |
| [02:21:47] | Anduin: | jim_u: How are you testing that the ivtv cards work in live TV? |
| [02:21:58] | jim_u: | by going into live tv |
| [02:22:00] | jim_u: | and watching tv |
| [02:22:22] | Anduin: | jim_u: And switching cards (in other words how do you know which card it is using)? |
| [02:22:41] | jim_u: | when i go in, it says IVTV1 or IVTV2 or BTTV (new thing i guess you can set what to call them) |
| [02:23:13] | jim_u: | let me just go double check that _both_ ivtv cards are working so i don't feel like an idiot.. bbl (is there a way of switching cards while watching tv? i never knew how heh just ran around the house to the other fronends) |
| [02:23:15] | mchou: | wtf is this?? |
| [02:23:17] | mchou: | 2006-04–08 21:52:29.012 Channel(/dev/v4l/video2): Input #11: 'Tuner 0' schan(10) tun() v4l1(PAL) v4l2(Unknown) |
| [02:23:17] | mchou: | 2006-04–08 21:52:29.013 Channel(/dev/v4l/video2): Input #12: 'Television' schan(52) tun() v4l1(PAL) v4l2(Unknown) |
| [02:23:17] | mchou: | 2006-04–08 21:52:29.013 Channel(/dev/v4l/video2): Input #15: 'Tuner' schan(10) tun() v4l1(NTSC) v4l2(Unknown) |
| [02:23:40] | Anduin: | exactly |
| [02:24:08] | mchou: | jim_u: your mythtv-setup is fubar |
| [02:24:59] | jim_u: | wow |
| [02:25:03] | jim_u: | that does sound fubar |
| [02:25:09] | jim_u: | how come i can watch tv tho :( |
| [02:25:18] | jim_u: | and how do i fix it!, it all looks like its supposed to in mythtv-setup |
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| [02:27:20] | Anduin: | jim_u: Either patch by hand, or delete the cards and reconfigure. |
| [02:27:31] | jim_u: | patch by hand? |
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| [02:27:44] | Anduin: | jim_u: If you are handly with mysql. |
| [02:27:48] | jim_u: | and i i will do that if thats what i need to do, delete cards... but is that all? delete and then add them back in? |
| [02:28:14] | Anduin: | jim_u: Assuming there isn't some other bug. |
| [02:28:50] | jim_u: | alrightr, i'll be back in 10–15 |
| [02:28:53] | jim_u: | i'll go do that |
| [02:29:15] | jim_u: | delete delete delete, put back in and then set the three input things to the right source and it should be good? |
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| [02:29:34] | Anduin: | jim_u: "should" |
| [02:30:28] | jim_u: | herm |
| [02:30:31] | jim_u: | heard that before |
| [02:32:27] | Ruis: | someone in here was going to be releasing Suse 10 packages this weekend. Anyone know who it was and what the status is on that? |
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| [02:51:03] | jim_u: | thanks guys, it appears to be working |
| [02:51:18] | jim_u: | but i did something to get all of my channels to be named |
| [02:51:22] | jim_u: | adding channel ## |
| [02:51:26] | jim_u: | so i'll have to figure that out |
| [02:56:36] | promacuser: | hey everybody, i'm trying to pin down a problem where i can't connect to the mythdatabase |
| [02:56:50] | promacuser: | i can connect using bash logged in as root |
| [02:57:37] | promacuser: | but the frontend can't find the backend (running on the same machine) unless i use "localhost" as the server name instead of the ip address given to it by the router |
| [02:57:38] | Anduin: | promacuser: and as mythtv? |
| [02:57:45] | promacuser: | not as mythtv |
| [02:57:52] | dtm: | promacuser: so what's the problem |
| [02:58:14] | dtm: | /win 12 |
| [02:59:23] | Anduin: | promacuser: Look at one of the install guides that gives steps on allowing the mythtv user. |
| [02:59:32] | promacuser: | so when the box reboots, it gives me the screen asking for the configuration information for the database |
| [02:59:38] | promacuser: | then it fails to find the database |
| [03:02:51] | alex777: | ok, here's a question, if I manually put in a channel in the database and I populate the program through my own means, will that interfere with mythfilldatabase ? |
| [03:06:38] | Anduin: | alex777: Did you try (as long as there was no information provided for that channel I'd think it would be ok). |
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| [03:06:41] | Juski: | yes |
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| [03:07:49] | promacuser: | does this sound like a problem that the mythtv user can't access the database? |
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| [03:08:31] | skone: | wasnt there an option to burn dvds through mythweb? |
| [03:08:36] | skone: | or am I just going crazy? |
| [03:08:45] | Juski: | skone: it's called mythburn |
| [03:08:50] | skone: | where is it? |
| [03:09:02] | Juski: | and it'll take some jumping through hoops to get it working in 0.19 |
| [03:09:10] | Juski: | try the knoppmyth forums |
| [03:09:22] | skone: | i swear i have found it before |
| [03:09:26] | skone: | but I cant find it anywhere now |
| [03:09:44] | Juski: | you obviously haven't tried google yet |
| [03:10:17] | Juski: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=MythBurn |
| [03:11:45] | skone: | hmm |
| [03:11:56] | skone: | its not there |
| [03:12:08] | promacuser: | i even tried setting the user name to root for the database |
| [03:12:33] | Juski: | skone: !!! |
| [03:12:39] | skone: | what? |
| [03:12:43] | Juski: | it's there |
| [03:12:53] | skone: | I dont see it |
| [03:13:11] | skone: | i have seen it before |
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| [03:13:34] | Anduin: | promacuser: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| [03:13:35] | Juski: | skone: try this too: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/193109 |
| [03:14:37] | promacuser: | Anduin: right! i'm sorry, you told me that earlier as well |
| [03:14:48] | skone: | Juski: I had mythburn option with mythweb |
| [03:14:51] | Anduin: | I am a broken record. |
| [03:14:52] | skone: | and its not there anymore |
| [03:15:21] | Juski: | skone: mythburn isn't part of mythweb |
| [03:16:12] | Juski: | skone: it comes with knoppmyth, but not with any version of mythtv for any other distro (well, maybe mythdora) |
| [03:16:35] | skone: | im saying, I use to have a link to it from mythweb |
| [03:16:58] | Juski: | skone: I know what you're saying. and I'm saying it's not a default part of mythweb |
| [03:17:15] | Juski: | which will explain why you can't find it |
| [03:17:19] | skone: | but where did it go? |
| [03:17:25] | skone: | I havent upgraded or changed anyhthing |
| [03:17:55] | Juski: | skone: sure? directories & web pages don't just disappear |
| [03:18:01] | skone: | i know |
| [03:18:03] | skone: | its wierd |
| [03:18:20] | skone: | I saw it when I installed r5 b7 and thought, hey...I need to get a dvd burner |
| [03:18:21] | Juski: | maybe time to change the filesystem you use then |
| [03:18:37] | skone: | then I just happend to look for it a few weeks later....and I dont see it anywhere |
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| [03:19:26] | Juski: | try doing a ls of your mythweb directory – it should be in there |
| [03:19:49] | Juski: | AFAIK all versions of knoppmyth include it |
| [03:20:03] | skone: | do you have a url for it? |
| [03:20:25] | Juski: | er... I just posted two URLs where it can be found. |
| [03:21:04] | Juski: | if it's not part of your mythweb now chances are you'll have to install it yourself – and take it from me it's no fun to do that |
| [03:21:35] | skone: | i dont even need it right now |
| [03:21:40] | skone: | but I saw it a couple weeks ago |
| [03:21:46] | skone: | and I dont see it now |
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| [03:22:30] | Juski: | a link in mythweb appears at the top, to the right of 'backend logs' IIRC |
| [03:23:45] | skone: | hmm |
| [03:23:55] | promacuser: | well, i set up the mysql database like it says in the documentation, but still no luck |
| [03:25:38] | Anduin: | promacuser: Which part specifically? And what is the error from mysql now? |
| [03:26:02] | promacuser: | Modifying access to the MySQL database for multiple systems |
| [03:26:10] | promacuser: | and i set it up with no security |
| [03:27:11] | Anduin: | promacuser: And the mysql error? |
| [03:28:20] | Juski: | check your my.cnf file – make sure it's not set to bind mysql to a local address |
| [03:28:33] | promacuser: | where is my.cnf? |
| [03:29:02] | Juski: | and check mythbackend isn't set to use 127.0.0.1 – set it to use the real ip address |
| [03:29:26] | Juski: | promacuser: usually in /etc/mysql – good place to start looking |
| [03:29:54] | Juski: | btw any changes to mythbackend config will need you to restart mythbackend to take effect |
| [03:30:00] | promacuser: | checking |
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| [03:46:43] | marcus2: | hmm |
| [03:46:55] | marcus2: | suddenly my mythtv has stopped recording |
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| [03:47:21] | promacuser: | ok, there's nothing in my.cnf that ties mysql down to localhost |
| [03:47:38] | promacuser: | i forgot what else i was going to do |
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| [03:47:46] | marcus2: | things show up under 'previous recordings' as 'recording', even tho they were over a couple of hours ago |
| [03:48:31] | marcus2: | and the tuner status says they arent recording |
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| [03:57:26] | promacuser: | is it somewhere in the backend settings? |
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| [04:03:15] | promacuser: | "Failed to init MythContext, exiting. . ." |
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| [04:08:34] | Anduin: | promacuser: Until you can get there with mysql and -u mythtv there is little point. |
| [04:11:09] | promacuser: | ok |
| [04:11:14] | promacuser: | i'll keep working on it then |
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| [04:12:22] | purplefrog: | What is the best way to tell if you have already transcoded something? |
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| [04:21:29] | dutchhome: | i'm looking for some help w/ my gentoo mythtv install.. p4 w/ pvr-350 |
| [04:21:42] | dutchhome: | for some reason, i'm getting no picture |
| [04:22:26] | dutchhome: | i have the card set up right, afaik.. have tuner 0 selected and us-cable freq's |
| [04:22:51] | dutchhome: | datadirect is working.. in fact everything seems to be working except the pic :( |
| [04:23:28] | someguy0500o5: | hello all, I'm working on a MythTV issue... When I scan for channels, I only get access to 5 and 6, though I've hooked a TV up to the same coax cable input and gotten all 70+ channels. I'm running an AMD Athlon 1ghZ, 512MB RAM, Haupaggue 350 (and the latest KnoppMyth release) |
| [04:23:40] | someguy0500o5: | all other channels are snow |
| [04:23:56] | Anduin: | "scan"? |
| [04:24:01] | someguy0500o5: | tried... |
| [04:24:11] | someguy0500o5: | only finds 5/6 |
| [04:24:29] | dutchhome: | at least you are getting 2 channels :) |
| [04:24:33] | someguy0500o5: | haha |
| [04:24:37] | dutchhome: | mine won't give me anything atm |
| [04:24:41] | dutchhome: | heh |
| [04:24:48] | someguy0500o5: | you tried KnoppMYTH? |
| [04:24:52] | Anduin: | I hope they are good channels. |
| [04:24:53] | someguy0500o5: | or the regular release? |
| [04:24:54] | dutchhome: | yup.. it works fine |
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| [04:25:05] | someguy0500o5: | what tuner? |
| [04:25:07] | dutchhome: | trying to get it working on gentoo instead |
| [04:25:10] | dutchhome: | pvr-350 |
| [04:25:18] | someguy0500o5: | damn our card! |
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| [04:25:35] | D-side: | bah |
| [04:25:35] | dutchhome: | i'm wondering if its fried in the 2 months i haven't used it |
| [04:25:57] | someguy0500o5: | try hooking it up to your windows box |
| [04:26:01] | dutchhome: | there is no live cd available i could use to test is there? pretty sure knoppmyth needs to be installed, right? |
| [04:26:08] | dutchhome: | don't have windows |
| [04:26:18] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: Check your frequency table, then check that the tuner type is right. |
| [04:26:45] | someguy0500o5: | tuner type is the PVR x50, 500 (which is correct) |
| [04:26:50] | someguy0500o5: | whats the frequency table? |
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| [04:27:24] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: selectable in mythtv-setup (things like us-cable) |
| [04:27:57] | someguy0500o5: | i believe the only thing selected which isn't default is us-cable |
| [04:28:08] | dutchhome: | hmm.. whats us-cable-hrc? |
| [04:28:09] | someguy0500o5: | (and I live in MA) |
| [04:28:29] | dutchhome: | surely us-cable is what most us ppl should use, right? |
| [04:28:32] | Anduin: | dutchhome: there are several valid frequency lists, hrc, irc, etc |
| [04:28:40] | Anduin: | dutchhome: Yes, most. |
| [04:28:56] | dutchhome: | so i should try a few? seems to me the old version worked ok w/ us-cable |
| [04:28:59] | someguy0500o5: | so if normal us-cable isn't working, should i try a different one? |
| [04:29:26] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: No, you should use ivtv-tune and check it. |
| [04:29:42] | someguy0500o5: | ivtv-tune? |
| [04:29:46] | someguy0500o5: | ill give it a whirl! |
| [04:30:51] | someguy0500o5: | also Auduin, i bought 2 500gig HDs to save all my divx/recorded movies on the MythTV box... will both hard drives be utilized for MythTV or will only the primary master until I change something? |
| [04:31:40] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: Only a single drive unless you do something like lvm |
| [04:31:46] | dutchhome: | how can you tell if ivtv-tune is working? |
| [04:32:09] | Anduin: | dutchhome: have live tv on in myth, cat to a file an mplayer it, etc. |
| [04:32:24] | someguy0500o5: | haha, pretending I have no previous knowledge of any practial functionality of linux, could you help me use lvm? |
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| [04:32:32] | dutchhome: | oh.. i see.. thx |
| [04:33:01] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: There are lvm tutorials that are far better than anything I could give you. |
| [04:33:36] | dutchhome: | also, i can't find the option to select alsa for my sound.. it keeps trying to use OSS, i think.. where is that configured? |
| [04:34:00] | dutchhome: | i can always emerge oss support, but doesn't seem like it should be neccessary |
| [04:34:05] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: You could also ignore lvm and just occasionally copy stuff over (it gets annoying though as the scanner doesn't pick up file moves, so you need to reenter the metadata) |
| [04:35:06] | Anduin: | dutchhome: As long as your don't use something that requires OSS for capture, you can do things like enter ALSA:default for your output device (and assuming ALSA is compiled in) it will work. |
| [04:36:26] | someguy0500o5: | ok, the only options i can change the cable type is us-cable/us-bcast/us-cable-hrc/us-cable-irc |
| [04:36:34] | someguy0500o5: | no option for ivtv-tune |
| [04:36:52] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: ivtv-tune is a utility that comes with the ivtv driver. |
| [04:37:23] | someguy0500o5: | how do i access it? |
| [04:38:05] | Anduin: | run it |
| [04:38:14] | someguy0500o5: | haha |
| [04:38:41] | Anduin: | from a terminal window |
| [04:38:45] | Anduin: | or over ssh |
| [04:38:49] | someguy0500o5: | is it global? |
| [04:39:11] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: I have no idea where (or even if) it is on your system. |
| [04:39:22] | someguy0500o5: | ah, ok... brb |
| [04:39:40] | someguy0500o5: | i don't wanna seem unappreciative though... thanks! |
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| [04:43:33] | someguy0500o5: | hmm, so i can run it, but im not sure what to run it with |
| [04:43:47] | Anduin: | I wonder if kkuphal is being mean or didn't see who posted the ticket or both. |
| [04:44:05] | someguy0500o5: | i tried ivtv-tune -c us-cable |
| [04:44:09] | someguy0500o5: | but no dice |
| [04:44:18] | someguy0500o5: | what do you suggest? |
| [04:45:25] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: ivtv-tune -t us-cable -c 3 |
| [04:45:42] | someguy0500o5: | thanks again! |
| [04:45:48] | someguy0500o5: | lemme give it a shot |
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| [04:48:08] | rage_: | hrm, after upgrading to 0.19 myth doesn't resume playback frmo the position of the bookmark I set on saved recordings |
| [04:54:05] | someguy0500o5: | nope, that didn't do it... still getting the same results |
| [04:54:09] | someguy0500o5: | when i scan |
| [04:55:04] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: post a dmesg (just the bits about ivtv loading) to a paste site |
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| [04:56:41] | someguy0500o5: | sorry Anduin, i don't understand |
| [04:58:28] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: dmesg is another thing you'd run in a terminal, it will show kernel log messages, some of which will be from ivtv (from START INIT IVTV to END INIT IVTV) |
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| [04:59:36] | someguy0500o5: | so i could do "dmesg *ivtv*"? |
| [05:00:27] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: no, just run dmesg then cut out the stuff between the delimiters |
| [05:00:55] | someguy0500o5: | ok, and just let you know what it says? |
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| [05:02:34] | Anduin: | paste the output to a paste site, share the link |
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| [05:04:21] | Samson: | how do i get my remote for pvr-150 to work with mythv, lirc is all setup and i get output when using irw |
| [05:04:47] | Anduin: | Samson: Then you are done! |
| [05:05:13] | Samson: | Anduin: well the remote doesnt do anything while in mythfrontend |
| [05:05:28] | Anduin: | Samson: did you make a ~/.mythtv/lircrc file? |
| [05:06:06] | Samson: | Anduin: yes, but when i just ran configure for mythtv, it said lirc support not enabled. so i also tried running irxevent still nothing |
| [05:07:02] | Anduin: | Samson: irxevent would look at the normal ~/.lircrc file, or you could build myth with native lirc support |
| [05:08:05] | Samson: | well i copied the .lircrc from /mythtv to my ~ , still no go |
| [05:08:14] | Samson: | how do i force it to load native support if i rebuild |
| [05:08:25] | Samson: | for some reason configure is not detecting i have lirc on the system |
| [05:08:59] | Anduin: | Samson: The contents of your lirc config file are specific to the program, so a valid one for native != a valid one for irxevent |
| [05:09:18] | someguy0500o5: | Anduin: http://kscsac.tripod.com/dmesg.txt |
| [05:09:52] | Anduin: | Samson: for lirc support you need the lib and the header or it will fail. |
| [05:10:08] | Samson: | hate to be a newb, how do i get that |
| [05:12:18] | Anduin: | Samson: depends on your distro |
| [05:12:43] | Samson: | Anduin: Fedora 5 |
| [05:13:02] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: That looks ok, though I'm not sure of all the tuner types these days. |
| [05:14:23] | someguy0500o5: | any other ideas? I've tried reinstalling, but it consistantly does the same thing to me |
| [05:14:56] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: but it works on knoppmyth? |
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| [05:15:35] | someguy0500o5: | the install runs fine, but when i scan for channels, the only ones that aren't snow are 5 and 6 |
| [05:15:58] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: even on knoppmyth? |
| [05:16:08] | someguy0500o5: | yup, thats hte only one ive tried |
| [05:16:13] | Anduin: | Samson: rpm -q lirc? |
| [05:16:25] | Samson: | lirc-0.8.1-cvs20060325_57.rhfc5.at |
| [05:18:15] | Anduin: | Samson: look for a -devel package. |
| [05:18:26] | Anduin: | (sorry I don't use atrpms) |
| [05:20:24] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: I'd try the #ivtv channel (think they are still active) and/or the ivtv mail list |
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| [05:20:56] | Samson: | Anduin: or how do i get it to work with irxevent |
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| [05:21:39] | someguy0500o5: | looks like their dead |
| [05:21:43] | someguy0500o5: | the channel anyway |
| [05:21:50] | someguy0500o5: | ill check the net for their mailing list |
| [05:22:03] | Anduin: | Samson: look at the irxevent man page (sample .lircrc entries there) |
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| [05:26:35] | someguy0500o5: | hey Anduin, on another topic alltogether... how do i upload divx movies (or mp3 music) to my Myth box and have the stuff accessable? |
| [05:27:12] | someguy0500o5: | i tried ftp'ing my divx movies to /myth/video/ but i couldn't access it from a myth front end |
| [05:27:22] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: install mythvideo/mythmusic, put the files in the right place, scan |
| [05:27:22] | someguy0500o5: | (same wth /myth/music) |
| [05:27:47] | someguy0500o5: | both are installed... thanks to knoppmyth |
| [05:28:00] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: Yeah, the frontend has to be able to access the file using the same path (it needs to be shared vis NFS or Samba) |
| [05:28:51] | someguy0500o5: | is /myth/video and /myth/music the proper dir's? |
| [05:29:25] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: Not sure, configurable (mine is /var/media/movies for example) |
| [05:29:50] | someguy0500o5: | ah, where is that config entered? |
| [05:31:18] | Anduin: | someguy0500o5: settings page somewhere, I don't use mythmusic, but the video settings are in Setup | Media Settings | Video Settings * |
| [05:31:27] | rage_: | hrm, after upgrading to 0.19 myth doesn't resume playback frmo the position of the bookmark I set on saved recordings |
| [05:32:02] | Anduin: | rage_: Does it return to new ones? |
| [05:33:32] | rage_: | no, it doesn't go to any |
| [05:34:32] | Anduin: | rage_: How is seeking? |
| [05:34:52] | Anduin: | (basically it sounds like you should check your recordedmarkup table) |
| [05:35:07] | rage_: | recordedmarkup? |
| [05:35:34] | Anduin: | rage_: MySQL table that stores things like bookmarks and seek info. |
| [05:35:39] | rage_: | hrm |
| [05:35:43] | rage_: | didn't know I had that table :) |
| [05:35:48] | rage_: | is it new to 19? |
| [05:36:04] | rage_: | I thought there was a bookmarks table before |
| [05:36:45] | Anduin: | rage_: There will soon be a bookmarks table, but for recordings, no, historically they have been in recordedmarkup. |
| [05:37:11] | Anduin: | rage_: Try mysqlcheck mythconverg and see if your tables are ok |
| [05:39:25] | rage_: | everything checks out ok |
| [05:41:35] | Anduin: | rage_: anything in the logs? |
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| [05:53:45] | rage_: | I can't even find the logs |
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| [05:56:26] | Anduin: | rage_: ps axw | grep myth, see if -l is being passed |
| [05:56:49] | rage_: | nope |
| [05:57:00] | rage_: | -d for the backend |
| [05:57:04] | rage_: | daemon |
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| [05:57:55] | Anduin: | Which starup script set are you using? |
| [06:00:13] | rage_: | one I made myself |
| [06:00:18] | rage_: | just starts the backend and frontend |
| [06:00:41] | Anduin: | You should pass it -l |
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| [06:13:14] | nodfasa: | could someone point me to a good resource for running mythfrontend on windows? |
| [06:13:58] | rage_: | www.deletewindows.com :) |
| [06:14:04] | Anduin: | nodfasa: For the most part that is a tale of woe. |
| [06:14:08] | rage_: | I don't even know if thats possible |
| [06:14:16] | nodfasa: | oh... ok :) |
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| [07:56:11] | dorel_: | hey |
| [07:56:20] | dorel_: | i just got my hauppauge wintv pvr 150 :P |
| [07:56:48] | eiggirC: | sweet they rock hard for myth |
| [07:58:14] | dorel_: | cool |
| [07:58:45] | dorel_: | i've noticed that it's remote control reciever connects to the actual card not in serial way... is it supported on linux? (i dont think lirc supports it) |
| [07:58:57] | eiggirC: | no idea – ask google |
| [07:59:10] | eiggirC: | I got the OEM MCE one cos it was cheapesty |
| [07:59:35] | dorel_: | OEM MCE? |
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| [08:23:43] | Anduin: | dorel_: lirc supports it |
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| [08:36:57] | onetwo: | Hi, so I have shiny pc underneath my tv, and another in the "garage" connected to a projector shining on a sheet of 8 by 4 mdf, now how to I music to the amp in the dining room so that I can listen to music, while the garage and living room are in use? I don't really want any more pc's |
| [08:39:03] | xris: | onetwo: slimserver |
| [08:39:13] | xris: | aka squeezebox |
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| [08:56:45] | ** xris grumbles about fedora repositories not lining up ** | |
| [08:56:58] | onetwo: | can I do anything useful with a spare pocketpc so that it works like a squeezebox? |
| [09:03:40] | xris: | depends on how powerful it is. |
| [09:04:01] | xris: | slimserver is just a streaming mp3 server, so if your pocketpc can play mp3 streams over the web, you could. |
| [09:06:45] | onetwo: | ok, I think |
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| [09:25:19] | banyan: | So, I'm trying to make sure I have the latest kernel modules and so on for 2.6.16–1.2080_FC5 before I boot into it, and I'm having trouble installing one of the atrpm packages... |
| [09:26:40] | banyan: | video4linux-kmdl-1:20060330–65.rhfc5.at is the one I can't find. This actually doesn't seem to be a valid name. there was a few-step thing I had to do once to purge the yum database because it got all messed up. anyone remember what it was? |
| [09:27:27] | dorel_: | eiggirC: still around? |
| [09:27:44] | dorel_: | eiggirC: i think i installed the wintv 150 card succesfuly but in dmesg i see "cx25840 1–0044: 0x0000 is not a valid video input! |
| [09:27:59] | dorel_: | eiggirC: is this an error or should i disregard it? |
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| [09:33:48] | Anduin: | banyan: yum clean all will clean everything out |
| [09:34:43] | banyan: | That wasn't necessary — I was actually just trying to add mismatching versions of video4linux utilities vs. kernel modules. |
| [09:35:18] | banyan: | a PEBKAC in short. :-) |
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| [09:37:25] | banyan: | Anduin: after you yum clean all you have to do something to rebuild yum's database. I remember it's rpm --rebuilddb for rpm... |
| [09:38:28] | Anduin: | You shouldn't, that will just clean up the yum metadata and packages it has downloaded (cache info/data) |
| [09:41:37] | banyan: | oh, so it's more of a cache that yum clean all blows away, not an actual database. |
| [09:42:05] | banyan: | so how you doing anduin! Seems like you and I talk a little every time there's a big update. :-) |
| [09:42:07] | Anduin: | banyan: yum works with rpm, it doesn't replace it. |
| [09:42:48] | banyan: | I know yum works with rpm's database but I thought it kept its own database in tandem. |
| [09:43:17] | Anduin: | It keeps metadata on available rpms and what is in them |
| [09:43:40] | Anduin: | How are you liking .19? |
| [09:43:50] | banyan: | Every so often our friend axel goes on a rant about how yum is broken and everyone should use smart. |
| [09:45:30] | banyan: | Well, there is a little thing that's started happening in the last couple of updates... where I get a lot of flicker on the recordings page, particularly at the part on the bottom third where the recording info is. I had to remove the preview pic to keep the frontend from using a third of my cpu... |
| [09:45:52] | Anduin: | There are some issues with yum, my largest general complaint is against how it handles mirror lists (there may be technical issues with resolving dependencies, and it sure isn't fast) but it is good enough for me (beats what I used to do with wget/rpm -Fvh) |
| [09:46:13] | banyan: | other than that, I like some of the tweaks made! I think the setup in particular makes a lot more sense. |
| [09:47:37] | banyan: | but even the concept of being able to go between OS revisions with a command line tool even has windows beat, and they have billions to soak into R&D. |
| [09:47:54] | Anduin: | previews are one of those features I disabled years ago and honestly believe I am better for. |
| [09:48:38] | Anduin: | yum between OS revs is still discouraged by everyone who knows better :) |
| [09:51:40] | banyan: | heh, yeah, I don't know what the deal is with that but it works OK, although the front end is a little sluggish in the menus now for some reason. About 1/2 second delay between when I hit a key and when something happens. |
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| [09:53:44] | banyan: | I think yum gets a bad rap. I went from RH9 to FC5 on a work machine and everything was flawless. |
| [09:54:08] | Anduin: | Yeah, that seems like an unreasonably long delay (the remote always feels a little slow to me, but it reacts much quicker than .5 seconds for me) |
| [09:54:29] | banyan: | this is actually using the keyboard on the frontend. |
| [09:54:33] | Anduin: | banyan: How many hours did yum take to compute the dependencies? |
| [09:54:48] | banyan: | oh, it was not quick! :-) But it did work. |
| [09:55:20] | banyan: | I'd be open to using something else if that 'something else' wasn't doing a fresh reinstall. |
| [09:57:27] | Anduin: | Yeah, the FC5 upgrade was probably the most disappointing that I can remember (much longer to run). If I had to upgrade even one more box it probably would have been faster to do a fresh install. |
| [09:57:28] | banyan: | I'd get red hat 9 to FC1 started around 5 PM, leave it overnignt... fix issues if necessary and do it again the next night. |
| [09:57:53] | banyan: | If you knew what was on there that needed to be saved, and so on... |
| [09:57:57] | k-man_: | when i try and play a .iso image of a dvd in xine, it tells me the format is not recognised |
| [09:58:00] | k-man_: | any ideas? |
| [09:58:14] | Anduin: | k-man_: command line? |
| [09:58:33] | k-man_: | xine dvd:/xyz.iso |
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| [09:59:56] | banyan: | I am always too disorganised to know for certain what has to be backed up. |
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| [10:00:38] | k-man_: | Anduin, does that seem right? |
| [10:00:43] | banyan: | so yum upgrade is the way I go... it enables me to keep up without forcing me to get my poo in a pile. |
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| [10:02:28] | Anduin: | banyan: I do upgrades as well, but usually because looking through the upgrade.log is faster (plus thinking of all the reconfig time hurts). |
| [10:03:37] | Anduin: | k-man_: The version I'm using now didn't seem to like it (but it used to, my script called xine with dvd://isofilename) |
| [10:03:54] | k-man_: | hmm |
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| [10:05:13] | k-man_: | all i get is "there is no input plugin available to handle dvd://xyz.iso' |
| [10:05:21] | Anduin: | k-man_: It seems to work without dvd:/ |
| [10:05:28] | k-man_: | it says that with all the iso's |
| [10:05:42] | Anduin: | k-man_: tried just xine my.iso? |
| [10:05:51] | k-man_: | same error |
| [10:06:31] | Anduin: | xine dvd:/ goober.iso works here |
| [10:06:57] | Anduin: | Which is lame and not how it used to work (nor how it is documented to work) |
| [10:07:37] | k-man_: | hmmm |
| [10:07:46] | k-man_: | i think its more likely a library missing or something |
| [10:07:52] | k-man_: | as i can play other videos |
| [10:07:55] | k-man_: | just not .iso files |
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| [10:29:09] | Advanced: | When I'm entering the Mythweather module, and goes to the sattelite picture, Mythweather lags.. It does not react on my keystrokes.. First after a minute or 2 it starts "doing" my keystrokes, but when it reaches the sattelite picture again it stops again.. it's mythtv 0.19 and same version of the mythweather-module |
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| [10:34:34] | banyan: | Hmm, I just rebooted with the 0.8.1 LIRC, and lircd won't start...it decided it couldn't get information for /dev/lirc0 and lircd died. |
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| [10:38:44] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
| [10:39:01] | fir3st0rm: | how can i convert the mythtv database to utf8? |
| [10:40:12] | laurens_: | thats more of a mysql question isnt it? |
| [10:40:50] | fir3st0rm: | possibly |
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| [11:17:48] | dorel_: | ok i think i got the wintv 150 card installed and ready to work |
| [11:18:05] | dorel_: | just for testing purposes im gonna do 'cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/movie.mpg' and check it with mplayer |
| [11:18:45] | dorel_: | i've connected a laptop that is playing a movie on it's svideo tv-out to the svideo input on the wintv-150, should this work? and would i be able to watch it with catting /dev/vide0? |
| [11:19:56] | banyan: | I can't seem to get cx8800 module to load because it's missing the symbol v4l_printk_ioctl_arg. I think this is preventing my lirc from working correctly... |
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| [11:24:05] | whyz: | hey... when watching dvb channels on my p3 1ghz, mythfrontend takes about 40% cpu, and X takes 20%.. total load is 70%. the sound is not stuttering, but the framerate is very inconsistent.. it slows down, then it goes into turbo mode, all the time |
| [11:24:46] | whyz: | this is sort of strange, as i would have expected my pvr350 to take care of the output from the dvb card (a hvr1300) |
| [11:25:12] | whyz: | even if it didn't, i didn't expect dvb to take that much cpu |
| [11:26:28] | corpix_: | banyan, what kernel /driver ? cx8800 works flawlessly here |
| [11:26:51] | banyan: | kernel: 2.6.16–1.2080_FC5 |
| [11:27:43] | dorel_: | has anyone tried capturing with wintv-150 from the svideo input? |
| [11:27:54] | banyan: | Driver: lirc-kmdl-2.6.16–1.2080_FC5–0.8.1-cvs20060325_57.rhfc5.at |
| [11:28:25] | banyan: | and ivtv-kmdl-2.6.16–1.2080_FC5–0.7–111.rhfc5.at |
| [11:28:34] | banyan: | (I'm not sure which provides cx8800) |
| [11:28:43] | corpix_: | banyan, hmm i use the hg sources |
| [11:28:49] | corpix_: | v4l-dvb svn |
| [11:28:52] | corpix_: | svn/hg |
| [11:28:56] | meushi: | corpix_: btw, I fixed the nova-SE2 problem ;) |
| [11:29:07] | banyan: | this is for use with a hauppauge pvr350 |
| [11:29:07] | corpix_: | meushi, what was it ? |
| [11:29:22] | banyan: | what's hg? |
| [11:29:29] | dorel_: | whats the /dev/video0 /dev/video24 and /dev/video32 for? |
| [11:29:36] | meushi: | corpix_: replaced it with a card that works flawlessly |
| [11:29:53] | corpix_: | oh |
| [11:29:58] | meushi: | corpix_: and has remote, radio, ... |
| [11:30:08] | corpix_: | banyan, http://linuxtv.org/repo/ |
| [11:30:15] | meushi: | corpix_: I think it's a chipset/card problem |
| [11:30:37] | corpix_: | hmm |
| [11:30:44] | meushi: | corpix_: plugged the Skystar2 in, worked directly |
| [11:31:02] | corpix_: | heh, a skystar2 would blow my mobo |
| [11:31:06] | corpix_: | (nforce4) |
| [11:31:11] | corpix_: | it gets too hot |
| [11:32:06] | corpix_: | bbl |
| [11:32:09] | meushi: | ok |
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| [12:00:15] | lngndvs: | I have had modest success with a plextor TV402U. The channels won't change though |
| [12:10:20] | lngndvs: | #gentoo |
| [12:10:33] | lngndvs: | oops! |
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| [12:16:54] | lngndvs: | I got stuck, unable to change channels with Plextor Convertx. Last time around I could. How to clear the database? |
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| [13:14:21] | dorel_: | does anyone know how to watch the input coming from an svideo cable? (on a wintv 150 card) |
| [13:15:14] | Juski: | press c to change tuner inputs. it's in the FM |
| [13:17:12] | dorel_: | do i need to configure things first with myth-setup or... not? |
| [13:17:28] | dorel_: | i mean, i installed mythtv and all and afterwards i installed the wintv card which is why im asking |
| [13:17:33] | Juski: | not if you just want to watvh it afaik |
| [13:17:55] | Juski: | *watch, not watvh |
| [13:18:17] | Juski: | but have you added the card in mythtv-setup? |
| [13:19:30] | dorel_: | umm, let me check |
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| [13:22:39] | dorel_: | im seeing several options there on card type... |
| [13:23:12] | dorel_: | there analog v4l (i think this is it) and there's also mpeg2 encoder card (pvr-x50) (also seems like should work) |
| [13:27:33] | jim_u: | sorry to bother you guys again, but i was wondering how to go about getting channel icons |
| [13:29:42] | jim_u: | ah, i think i figured it out |
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| [13:49:15] | dorel_: | i think i didnt install the ivtv firmware well since its complaining as i can see in dmesg |
| [13:49:40] | dorel_: | cx25840 1–0044: 0x0000 is not a valid video input! |
| [13:49:40] | dorel_: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
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| [13:56:46] | Juski: | dorel_: your card is a pvr150, so you have to use the tuner type 'mpeg2 encoder card |
| [13:57:10] | Juski: | you should really be following a howto guide – you won't get far doing it blindly |
| [13:57:13] | kleptophobiac: | I'm trying to use imdb.pl to do some movie lookups... but I get this error |
| [13:57:32] | kleptophobiac: | "/usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl: XMLin() requires either XML::SAX or XML::Parser at /usr/share/mytht |
| [13:57:32] | kleptophobiac: | v/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl line 363" |
| [13:57:50] | Juski: | kleptophobiac: missing PERL component(s) |
| [13:57:57] | RaYmAn-Bx: | kleptophobiac: you might want to install one of those modules it tells you to =P |
| [13:58:14] | kleptophobiac: | how do i go about doing that? i never did learn anything about perl or cpan |
| [13:58:24] | Juski: | cpan install XML::Parser |
| [13:58:30] | kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [13:58:33] | kleptophobiac: | i'll give that a shot |
| [13:58:34] | kleptophobiac: | thanks |
| [13:58:38] | RaYmAn-Bx: | chances are your distribution has a package for the module as well |
| [13:58:49] | kleptophobiac: | nope, checked :P |
| [13:59:38] | RaYmAn-Bx: | okay then.. Gentoo does so I guess I just assumed they all do ;) |
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| [13:59:46] | kleptophobiac: | haha, sorry |
| [14:00:23] | RaYmAn-Bx: | It's often nicer to have things installed by your dists package manager..Makes sure dependencies are updated and such |
| [14:00:30] | kleptophobiac: | indeed |
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| [14:00:58] | homerman_: | hello |
| [14:01:00] | kleptophobiac: | ooh, sax is available in the user repos |
| [14:02:20] | homerman_: | Is it possible to specify a custom command to record video? I will soon have IPTV, and I would like to tell mythtv to use VLC instead of the TV tuner. |
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| [14:03:00] | dorel_: | Juski: i've followed 2 howtos – an ubuntu and a debian guide. and after digging so much im still stuck on the same place |
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| [14:12:59] | whyz: | hey, where do i enable/disable xvmc in myth? |
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| [14:21:48] | port7: | i want to add some channels (sky one, e4) do i do this via poking mysql tables? |
| [14:23:00] | kleptophobiac: | awesome, those user packages worked fantastically |
| [14:23:06] | kleptophobiac: | thanks for pointing me in the perl direction! |
| [14:31:31] | RaYmAn-Bx: | port7: you should be able to do that I think, but otherwise mythtv-setup and mythweb can do it... |
| [14:32:16] | corpix_: | can mythrename.pl be used for renaming a _SINGLE FILE_ ? |
| [14:32:24] | ** port7 looks at mythweb ** | |
| [14:34:20] | GreyFoxx: | likely just a new recorder class |
| [14:34:22] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
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| [14:43:46] | corpix_: | i am kinda new to mysql, is there a more parse friendly output of the tables ? |
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| [14:46:33] | penticlex: | has any one had a problem with enabling sound with myth tv I had to open tvtime from the command line then <ctrl>c out of it to get the sound initialised. is there any other way? |
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| [14:52:01] | penticlex: | has any one had a problem with enabling sound with myth tv I had to open tvtime from the command line then <ctrl>c out of it to get the sound working. is there any other way? |
| [14:52:42] | kleptophobiac: | are you using a bttv card? |
| [14:52:50] | penticlex: | saa7134 |
| [14:53:00] | kleptophobiac: | because if so, you might have your mixer set wrong, and tvtime is setting it correctly |
| [14:53:06] | kleptophobiac: | for capture through your sound card |
| [14:53:07] | kleptophobiac: | but |
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| [14:53:12] | kleptophobiac: | i'm afraid that's about all i can try and point out |
| [14:53:16] | kleptophobiac: | because i don't use that type of system |
| [14:54:13] | penticlex: | hm ok thanks I think that will help |
| [14:54:23] | kleptophobiac: | good luck |
| [15:00:29] | coffee88: | penticlex: I seem to remember someone else having an issue that their card wasn't being unmuted on startup. If Juski's around, he might remember more. Or check the logs. |
| [15:01:16] | dorel_: | ok i think i got more progress now |
| [15:01:40] | dorel_: | i've changed the input source to composite 0 using `ivtvctl --set-input=1` |
| [15:02:13] | dorel_: | and then i did the raw recording test and watched it through mplayer and i do see a picture now though it's showing up slow and in black&white colors – no idea where that is from... |
| [15:02:16] | whyz: | is it possible to use a pvr350's mpeg decoder to decode dvb streams? |
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| [15:08:30] | purplefrog: | Is there any way to pause mythtv on a FIELD instead of a FRAME? I'm watching some text that is scrolling way too fast, and pausing shows the interlaced fields which end up overlapping. |
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| [15:23:37] | penticlex: | no it s not that its muted I checked that already thanks though |
| [15:24:48] | penticlex: | its not initializing the sound on my tuner |
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| [15:26:14] | Juski: | coffee88: hiya |
| [15:26:42] | coffee88: | Juski: Hey Juski. howzit? |
| [15:26:58] | Juski: | penticlex: you habing a problem with a bttv tuner not giving you audio in mythtv but in other apps like xawtv ? |
| [15:27:11] | Juski: | coffee: fkin knackered. doin' up the bathroom (still) |
| [15:27:36] | coffee88: | Juski: i know you told me not to, but I went the ebay way and got an MVP cheap. Works like a charm with mvpmc. |
| [15:27:36] | Juski: | feel like my arms are gonna drop off |
| [15:27:56] | Juski: | coffee88: great – but how much was 'cheap' ? |
| [15:28:01] | coffee88: | Juski: a nice restful weekend then?! |
| [15:28:12] | coffee88: | Juski: worked out £30 with postage |
| [15:28:33] | Juski: | got most of the ceiling done, lights are in, fancy dimmer is done, walls are plastered |
| [15:28:44] | Juski: | that's cheap – nice one! |
| [15:29:26] | coffee88: | One a day before and a day later went for £45 each. I don't get it, but not complaining.... |
| [15:29:41] | Juski: | just finished polishing the plaster on one wall – wife comes in & says "you know... we could always just tile that wall instead"... fuck |
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| [15:29:55] | coffee88: | heh heh |
| [15:30:22] | Juski: | chuffed with my fancy dimmer though – illuminated touch panel ;-) |
| [15:30:36] | coffee88: | blue light? |
| [15:30:46] | Juski: | blue leds, yeh |
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| [15:30:59] | ivor: | tragic. :) |
| [15:31:05] | coffee88: | I like the blue ones. |
| [15:31:13] | ivor: | mines black. |
| [15:31:24] | coffee88: | black leds?! |
| [15:31:31] | Juski: | ah but they're behind a frosted glass panel, so it doesn't look nasty |
| [15:31:43] | ivor: | coffee88: indeed. it's very subtle. :) |
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| [15:31:59] | coffee88: | heh |
| [15:32:44] | Coume: | omg running when it's raining is stupid... uk rain is damn cold! |
| [15:32:52] | Juski: | lol |
| [15:33:00] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [15:33:11] | Juski: | there's a lesson to be learnt there. be a couch potato & get a great British belly instead :-P |
| [15:33:19] | coffee88: | exercise is bad for you. You end up just getting injured |
| [15:33:22] | Coume: | lol |
| [15:33:28] | ** ivor pats his tum. ** | |
| [15:33:47] | Hoxzer: | Luckily I live in finland and there is only snow |
| [15:34:00] | Juski: | we had snow today & yesterday |
| [15:34:05] | Coume: | after 5y in the uk, i'm sure i will get a belly too |
| [15:34:14] | ** coffee88 is pissed that hasn't seen any real snow this year. ** | |
| [15:34:17] | Juski: | yesterday we had snow & hail in a thunderstorm! |
| [15:34:18] | ivor: | not raining here yet. where are you. |
| [15:34:24] | ivor: | Coume: not raining here yet. where are you. |
| [15:34:37] | ** Juski lives in manchester, where it's always raining ** | |
| [15:34:45] | Coume: | Juski, in fact it looked like melted snow but perhaps it is because my brain was already hallucinated |
| [15:34:54] | Coume: | ivor, luton :) sunny luton! |
| [15:35:32] | ** ivor looks out of the window and sees the clouds rolling in from the north. ** | |
| [15:35:44] | Coume: | Hoxzer, where about in finland? |
| [15:36:21] | Hoxzer: | Coume: :D well, not so much but little snow here in helsinki |
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| [15:37:01] | Coume: | I did not visited Helsinki much, but lived in turku 2 y ago |
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| [15:37:59] | Jelte: | Hi there, just got mini-myth up and running and it's awesome!! just one question.. it seems only 1 out every 5 of my dvd's work. I ensured I have libdvdcss.so.2 installed, but it seems for most dvd's it gets a segmentation fault just after encoding the dvd keys..... am i maybe using an old version (myth 18.1) ? |
| [15:38:24] | Jelte: | google only gets shows problems where people didn't have libdvdcss installed.... i do have that |
| [15:39:34] | Coume: | brb |
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| [15:40:22] | Juski: | Jelte: maybe you have the MPAA sanctioned version of libdvdcss ;-) |
| [15:40:54] | ivor: | Juski: ooh I think I've got a T-shirt with that one on somewhere. |
| [15:40:57] | Jelte: | Juski: , you're joking right? (do you run mini-myth also? i seem to recal your nick from the forum) |
| [15:41:53] | coffee88: | penticlex: if you're still struggling, check out www.wlug.org.nz/TvTunerCards and seach for mythtv for some potential advice on your card... |
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| [15:43:09] | dorel_: | yay |
| [15:43:11] | dorel_: | some breakthrough |
| [15:43:46] | dorel_: | after i've fully configured the channels and stuff in mythtv-setup i can now see a blackscreen when i choose 'watch tv' on the first option in the menu of mythfrontend |
| [15:44:05] | dorel_: | now just to connect the svideo cable and i believe it should be fine. |
| [15:48:01] | penticlex: | nope its not the mixer my tune outputs to line in and there is no output to my line in |
| [15:48:08] | penticlex: | tune = tuner |
| [15:48:54] | penticlex: | until I start tvtime |
| [15:49:39] | Juski: | Jelte: yeh I run minimyth. I was kidding btw |
| [15:50:12] | coffee88: | penticlex: I think it's the card itself that mutes, not the mixer. |
| [15:50:24] | Juski: | I borrowed libdvdcss from my gentoo box – seems to work ok |
| [15:50:46] | penticlex: | or mplayer if I use mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:chanlist=us-bcast:alsa:adevice=hw.0,0:amode=1:aud iorate=32000:forceaudio:volume=100:immediatemode=0:norm=NTSC |
| [15:51:05] | Juski: | penticlex: you need the v4lctl command which comes with xawtv I believe |
| [15:51:17] | penticlex: | hm Ill double check it being muted |
| [15:51:29] | Jelte: | Juski: , yeah I figured you would be :-) if I run xine dvd:// i see it decrypting the keys, it then says it's found 15 VTS's, and then xine pops up an error dialog stating "blablabla, (Error reading NAV packet) |
| [15:51:53] | coffee88: | penticlex: check that link. it shows the command, and suggests that mythtv doesnt unmute the card properly... |
| [15:51:58] | Juski: | Jelte: hmmm. tough one. maybe the version of css you have is too old |
| [15:52:06] | Jelte: | wasn't there a bug in libdvdcss where if some of the VTS's were unencrypted it would fall over? but that was supposed to be fixed in 1.2 wasn't it? |
| [15:52:19] | Juski: | Jelte: no idea |
| [15:52:50] | Jelte: | its using version 1.2.5 is that old? |
| [15:52:52] | Juski: | anyway – time to tidy up |
| [15:53:19] | coffee88: | off he goes to sniff the turps... |
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| [16:00:05] | dorel_: | Juski: the setup in mythtv-setup where i have to download those channels and have to supply video source (zap2it) – is that mandetory for watching live tv? |
| [16:00:21] | kleptophobiac: | no |
| [16:00:25] | kleptophobiac: | just required for listings |
| [16:00:32] | dorel_: | ok weird |
| [16:00:38] | dorel_: | cause before it gave me problems |
| [16:00:39] | dorel_: | well |
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| [16:03:55] | Jelte: | found someone with a similar problem, couldn't play dvd's either... mplayer btw is telling me that its got an Invalid title IFO (VTS_01_0.IFO). The guy it seems turned on dma (in /etc/hdparm) for his hda and that solved his problem.... since my mini-itx is diskless i can't see how it could be relating, but maybe someone has an idea? |
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| [16:09:28] | kleptophobiac: | you can still have dma on optical drives |
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| [16:11:51] | Juski: | sniff the turps indeed. how insulting. I only ever drink them |
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| [16:12:20] | Juski: | dorel_: I think you need listings data. mythtv, even livetv is programme based |
| [16:12:33] | laga: | !trout Juski |
| [16:12:33] | ** MythLogBot slaps Juski with a trout on behalf of laga... ** | |
| [16:12:42] | Juski: | !trout laga |
| [16:12:42] | ** MythLogBot slaps laga with a trout on behalf of Juski... ** | |
| [16:12:44] | coffee88: | heh |
| [16:12:46] | laga: | darn |
| [16:12:47] | laga: | ;) |
| [16:12:58] | Juski: | how was the bbq? |
| [16:13:07] | laga: | Juski: nice. sobering up now... |
| [16:13:20] | laga: | ;) |
| [16:13:21] | dorel_: | ok |
| [16:13:33] | dorel_: | well everything is working but with the following exceptions: |
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| [16:13:44] | dorel_: | 1. im seeing black & white (no colors at all) |
| [16:14:02] | Juski: | using svideo? |
| [16:14:06] | dorel_: | 2. it's dead slow. i see the information in delay of about 15–30 seconds and even then really slow |
| [16:14:11] | dorel_: | yeah and the information is: |
| [16:14:25] | dorel_: | - its svideo output from a laptop to svideo input of the wintv150 |
| [16:14:40] | Juski: | wouldn't trust the laptop svideo output |
| [16:14:53] | Juski: | and let's have less of the 'win' please ;) |
| [16:15:04] | dorel_: | lol yeah, reminded me of the old winmodems :P |
| [16:15:23] | dorel_: | anyway, im gonna take the laptop home and check with the same cable how it looks on tv just to be sure |
| [16:15:38] | dorel_: | the other 2 options im considering is: |
| [16:15:56] | dorel_: | 1. very slow box 2. bad card (i got it for testing, it's not new from the box) |
| [16:16:10] | Juski: | unlikely it's a bad card |
| [16:16:29] | Juski: | your laptop might not be outputting colour video, or the right standard of video |
| [16:16:47] | Jelte: | ls -l |
| [16:16:50] | dorel_: | ok, so ill be wiser about the laptop tomorrow after i test it tonight at home |
| [16:16:52] | Jelte: | hehe.. wrong window |
| [16:17:09] | dorel_: | but other than there is some interesting data on the debug window of mythfrontend |
| [16:17:57] | dorel_: | VideoOuputXv Error: Could not find suitable XVideo surface. VideoOUtputXv: Falling back to X shared memory video output. *** May be slow ** |
| [16:18:07] | dorel_: | and then im seeing alot of NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [16:18:32] | dorel_: | (oh and also "Video timing method: USleep with busy wait") |
| [16:18:37] | dorel_: | does any of this tell you something? |
| [16:18:41] | Juski: | dorel_: well, looks like you dont have Xv on your desktop |
| [16:19:14] | dorel_: | i used to have before i upgraded kernels to 2.6.16 (i was 2.6.8 before) |
| [16:19:26] | dorel_: | and now to watch movies with mplayer i do -vo x11 instead of xv |
| [16:19:35] | dorel_: | so you're right. but does it matter that much? |
| [16:19:39] | Juski: | well, then you need to install your graphics driver again |
| [16:20:05] | dorel_: | ahh i see. so maybe that's where the problem is. |
| [16:20:13] | dorel_: | i dont remember installing it before though but you could be right |
| [16:20:24] | dorel_: | it's one of those small via boxes with everything on board |
| [16:20:39] | Juski: | nvidia drivers _always_ need reinstalled after a kernel upgrade |
| [16:20:49] | dorel_: | it's not nvidia. its via |
| [16:20:51] | Juski: | ATI etc are probably the same |
| [16:21:01] | dorel_: | ok :) |
| [16:21:17] | ivor: | dorel_: what drivers are you using. |
| [16:21:41] | dorel_: | i think vesa for display |
| [16:21:42] | imperfect-: | I get lots of audio-sync problems with mplayer... |
| [16:21:44] | imperfect-: | anyone else get that? |
| [16:22:10] | ivor: | dorel_: vesa's no use for video playback. |
| [16:22:27] | dorel_: | i see |
| [16:22:32] | dorel_: | so there lies the problem? |
| [16:23:50] | dorel_: | ok i changed to the via driver |
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| [16:24:00] | dorel_: | thanks for all the help ivor and juski |
| [16:24:12] | dorel_: | ill report back tomorrow when i'm wiser |
| [16:24:15] | dorel_: | goodnight |
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| [16:25:16] | fir3st0rm: | does mythtv support unicode? |
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| [16:39:01] | whyz: | hm |
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| [16:39:52] | whyz: | i can't watch live tv.. log complains about RingBuf, can't open a file.. then ends with: NVP::OpenFile(): Error, file not found: |
| [16:40:33] | whyz: | the dir is chmod 777, so it should be able to create the file |
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| [16:53:04] | Jelte: | ok silly question time but this has been annoying me for too long: in a bash shell, what key combination do you use to move the cursor a whole word and what key combination do you use to clear whatever is on the line you are typing (like esc in windows cmd) |
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| [17:06:53] | mchou: | Jelte: CTRL-w, CTRL-u |
| [17:08:29] | Jelte: | mchou: , aah thanks... but what about moving the cursor one word to the left/right without clearing that word? |
| [17:08:59] | mchou: | altb,altf |
| [17:09:17] | mchou: | just like vi |
| [17:09:55] | Jelte: | ahhh such a bless... ta |
| [17:10:27] | Jelte: | right, now back to more tricky problems to solve :-) like getting this thing to play more than just one out of 10 DVD's |
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| [17:15:34] | _nero_: | Howdy.. |
| [17:22:52] | Jelte: | ok, so i really am the only one on here that keeps getting : libdvdread: Invalid title IFO (VTS_01_0.IFO). for as good as all my dvd's ? :-( |
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| [17:24:20] | Tobbe: | Hi, I can't get nuvexport to work. I've tried with both --ffmpeg and --transcode and with both XviD and SVCD. It never stars. It just stays at 0 frames, 0 fps. I ran it with --transcode --debug, and then manualy ran the command it said it would run. It stops at "bitstream problem: resyncing..." and then nothing more happens. I'm trying to export to XviD |
| [17:24:34] | Tobbe: | Anything I can try to make it work? |
| [17:24:53] | Tobbe: | The full output is here: http://pastebin.ca/48766 |
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| [17:56:28] | penticlex: | what command does tvtime use to enable sound on tvtuners |
| [17:57:18] | Juski: | v4lctl... |
| [17:57:35] | Juski: | you get the command when you install xawtv |
| [17:57:54] | penticlex: | I cant find that on my system and I have xawtv |
| [17:58:15] | Jelte: | Juski: , you wouldn't happen to know if minimyth uses the ioctl interface for IDE drives in the kernle would you? (ie the configs: CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL=y |
| [17:58:16] | Jelte: | CONFIG_IDE_TASKFILE_IO=y ) |
| [17:58:25] | Juski: | http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_v4lctl.htm |
| [17:58:37] | Juski: | Jelte: no idea I'm afraid |
| [17:58:54] | Jelte: | no worries... i made a posting on the forum, guess I'll just have to wait and see |
| [18:00:38] | Juski: | penticlex: the command would be v4lctl -c /dev/video0 volume mute off IIRC |
| [18:00:40] | whyz: | i've got a little question.. following jarods guide on pvr350, but dd if=/dev/video0 of=/dev/video16 bs=64k only gives me sound |
| [18:07:19] | penticlex: | i dont have a v4lctl command |
| [18:07:41] | penticlex: | or a xawtv-remote |
| [18:08:05] | laga: | penticlex: complain to the package maintainer then, or check if v4lctl is available in a different package |
| [18:10:03] | Juski: | just been wondering again why myth wouldn't have the unmuting bit |
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| [18:10:52] | Juski: | heh. mandriva include v4lctl |
| [18:12:01] | Juski: | looky here too: http://linux.bytesex.org/xawtv/ |
| [18:12:44] | Juski: | the creators of xawtv say you get v4lctl, so get onto your friendly local package un-maintainer |
| [18:14:44] | ** Juski notices it's snowing again :-/ ** | |
| [18:15:05] | Juski: | laga: did you have a chance to catch up with Coume? Did he get _the_ job? ;-) |
| [18:18:18] | laga: | Juski: dunno, sorry. i know that he has a new one, but he was still after a better one |
| [18:18:22] | laga: | Juski: PM him ;) |
| [18:21:01] | Juski: | derr... never thought of that! |
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| [18:30:47] | _nero_: | say, I noticed svn now has an option in "appearance" settings to use OpenGL as the display technique for the UI. Does this include the nice transitions that were in that myth gui test? Or is it just to the point where GL is handling the old menus, etc.. |
| [18:31:54] | Blerghass: | What's the easiest way to delete all my TV |
| [18:31:54] | Blerghass: | listings data? |
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| [18:33:38] | xris: | Blerghass: in mysql: DELETE FROM PROGRAM;DELETE FROM CHANNEL; |
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| [18:36:09] | xris: | _nero_: pretty sure it's the menu transitions |
| [18:36:20] | xris: | which, btw, are NOT nice if you don't have 3d acceleration. heh. |
| [18:42:43] | j2: | If i want to make a "Noiseless" front-end, whats the best option? XBOX or a Epia system? |
| [18:43:21] | xris: | xbox is hardly noiseless |
| [18:43:46] | xris: | epia is good. can also build microatx like the silverstone LC-11 case |
| [18:43:53] | j2: | xris: really? I thught they were pretty silent? |
| [18:44:18] | xris: | j2: fairly, until they get going... dunno, quieter than most byt not noiseless |
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| [18:45:19] | j2: | I guess a XBOX would be the cheaper option tho... Also: What about TV-out quality? |
| [18:47:11] | xris: | no clue |
| [18:47:22] | xris: | depends on the video card you use |
| [18:47:36] | j2: | xris: Oh, i meant in case of the XBOX. |
| [18:47:49] | _nero_: | humm.. this is strange.. I have enabled ogl and just get blank screens.. |
| [18:47:55] | _nero_: | guess I need to check my drivers, etc.. |
| [18:48:00] | _nero_: | though opengl works for everything else. |
| [18:48:32] | xris: | _nero_: if it's disabled, the menus just work like they used to.. no transitions |
| [18:48:53] | _nero_: | do you need to enable it when you compile? |
| [18:48:57] | xris: | nope |
| [18:49:05] | xris: | woot, looks like with smaller source recordings and no denoise I now get 33fps with nuvexport. heh. |
| [18:49:23] | _nero_: | humm.. so go to the "appearance" menu, and set the painter to OpenGL.. that should be it? |
| [18:50:18] | xris: | should be, assuming that option is new. |
| [18:51:04] | xris: | hmm, doesn't work at all for me |
| [18:51:38] | _nero_: | the OGL stuff? |
| [18:52:23] | xris: | yeah |
| [18:52:29] | xris: | doesn't change anything for me |
| [18:52:37] | Anduin: | You need to restart the frontend after changing the option |
| [18:53:55] | xris: | ahh |
| [18:54:08] | _nero_: | ahhh.. ok |
| [18:54:16] | xris: | ok. it did the whole "rebuilding pixmaps" thing so I thought it would work without restart |
| [18:55:10] | _nero_: | humm.. when I restart the frontend, I just get the background of the theme.. nothing else.. :/ |
| [18:55:43] | Anduin: | Which theme? |
| [18:55:49] | _nero_: | mythcenter |
| [18:55:54] | xris: | works for me with blue |
| [18:55:58] | Anduin: | Ok, it is just you. |
| [18:56:10] | _nero_: | that always seems to be the case.. ;) |
| [18:56:21] | ivor: | _nero_: anything in your frontend log |
| [18:56:45] | ivor: | or Xorg log |
| [18:58:35] | _nero_: | a line about "missing begin or begin failed" and then a bunch of "null pixmap" errors. |
| [18:58:49] | ivor: | there you go then. :) |
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| [18:59:04] | _nero_: | lol.. which means???? |
| [18:59:17] | ivor: | your open gl isnt working. :D |
| [18:59:22] | _nero_: | ahhh. ok.. |
| [18:59:37] | _nero_: | why does it work with mythgallery then?? |
| [18:59:50] | ivor: | fate? |
| [18:59:55] | _nero_: | heh |
| [19:00:56] | _nero_: | humm.. found this in my xorg log: Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! |
| [19:02:25] | xris: | manually scanning firewire for which channels I get is really annoying. heh |
| [19:03:35] | xris: | esp. when the backend decides not to cooperate and stops showing ANY channels. |
| [19:03:36] | xris: | blech |
| [19:04:16] | Blerghass: | I changed my zap2it settings to exclude the channels I don't get. Are there any settings I need to change in myth? Some of the excluded channels are still showing up. |
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| [19:06:32] | xris: | Blerghass: you reran mythfilldatabase after deleting the data in the db? |
| [19:08:18] | Blerghass: | I actually didn't manage to delete all that data, DELETE FROM PROGRAM; didn't work, it said I didn't specify a database. Not too familiar with mysql here. |
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| [19:08:36] | Blerghass: | is it mythconverg_program or something? |
| [19:08:46] | xris: | sorry, I didn't mean to capitalize program or channel (they need to be lowercase) |
| [19:09:10] | xris: | well, you should connect to the database as: mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg (no space after the p) |
| [19:09:19] | Blerghass: | oh ok. |
| [19:09:20] | Blerghass: | thanks |
| [19:09:47] | Blerghass: | after I do that, should I run mythtv-setup again? |
| [19:10:03] | lordjim: | Do I need a /dev/dri/card0 to be able to watch TV? I have everything setup ok (scanned for fta channels, got some, sees my dvb card and so on) Yet every time I click on WatchTV it complains it has a display problem? Anyone? |
| [19:14:41] | Anduin: | lordjim: That message should just be generated when various vsync methods are being tried. |
| [19:15:07] | xris: | I just figured out why my computer can't display this stuff.. for some reason I have no xv |
| [19:15:28] | ** Juski laughs at the mere suggestion an xbox is quiet ** | |
| [19:16:13] | eiggirC: | Juski: it is when its turned off |
| [19:16:17] | Juski: | lol |
| [19:16:20] | Juski: | figures |
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| [19:16:40] | Juski: | but if you've got one of the dodgy power cables it'll burn your house down |
| [19:17:01] | lordjim: | Anduin why can't I run wathTV... Do I need a /dev/dri/card0? |
| [19:17:05] | ** xris wants to know how to fix this XV issue. ** | |
| [19:17:26] | Anduin: | lordjim: No, that is just a potential vsync method. |
| [19:17:54] | xris: | or maybe you can now get screenshots with XV stuff.. some stuff, even high def, I can watch |
| [19:18:14] | lordjim: | Auduin: I can access the dvb card as scanning for channels works. |
| [19:18:16] | Juski: | xris: strange |
| [19:18:19] | Anduin: | lordjim: Do you have OpenGL vsync enabled? |
| [19:18:52] | lordjim: | Anduin: Let me check... If I don't would this prevent me from accessing the TV? |
| [19:19:13] | xris: | Juski: it's really strange... some low def stiff (528x480) is totally unwatchable, but this 1920x1080 show on hbo is totally fine |
| [19:19:44] | Blerghass: | xris: I deleted all the listings from the database, now, any special arguments to mythfilldatabase? |
| [19:19:48] | Anduin: | lordjim: It shouldn't. |
| [19:19:49] | Juski: | xris: what's your native resolution? maybe it's barfing at doing lots of scaling |
| [19:19:51] | xris: | Blerghass: nope, just run it |
| [19:19:58] | xris: | Juski: 1280x1024 |
| [19:20:04] | Blerghass: | thanks |
| [19:20:23] | Juski: | xris: I expect you already know the deal if you've upgraded your kernel, etc... |
| [19:20:38] | xris: | ? |
| [19:21:21] | Juski: | I take it you've not changed anything lately then – I meant you'd know the drill regarding having to reinstall drivers on kernel upgrades etc ;-) |
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| [19:22:36] | xris: | this has been an issue with hd stuff from my air2pc since I got it... but I'm now running a new connection for tv over firewire... new video drivers, though, but they're supposed to be way better |
| [19:22:50] | lordjim: | Anduin: Okay I set the option on (was not enabled) still no go. Do I need to SUID anything? With mplayer I have to set mplayer 4755 to play avi movies as it won't connect to the XV driver unless I do. Is there anything with mythtv that is the same? |
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| [19:23:27] | Anduin: | lordjim: That is silly for mplayer as well. |
| [19:23:39] | ivor: | lordjim: if you need to suid mplayer somethings wrong. |
| [19:24:21] | lordjim: | Don't know what to say... mplayer -vo xv -ao oss foobar.avi no setuid fails, works without... Only thing I can think of is something is set 600 for root. |
| [19:24:43] | lordjim: | Ment to say works with setuid fails without... |
| [19:25:02] | ivor: | lordjim: which means something is wrong with your setup. running mythtv setuid isn't the correct fix. :) |
| [19:25:29] | ivor: | lordjim: what distro |
| [19:25:29] | lordjim: | ivor: thanks for the advice but what then needs to be adjusted to make mplayer work without suid? |
| [19:25:33] | lordjim: | fc4 |
| [19:26:08] | lordjim: | Yet this seemed to be allways the case I've tried distros gentoo,fc4,slakware even freebsd most needed to be setuid |
| [19:26:15] | ivor: | nah. |
| [19:26:28] | Anduin: | lordjim: FC4 didn't require that, nor the others. |
| [19:26:29] | ivor: | hands up anyone in the channel who runs mplayer setuid? |
| [19:27:00] | lordjim: | Okay I'll show you the output with and without (playing a avi) |
| [19:29:37] | lordjim: | Geeze never mind then... I just removed the setuid and it works.... For some reason in the past I had to set the 4755 on mplayer... |
| [19:30:19] | lordjim: | Right then, with mythtv what could be preventing me from displaying the channels? |
| [19:30:20] | ** ivor stifles a laugh and snorts. ** | |
| [19:30:27] | Anduin: | lordjim: so paste your frontend log to a paste site |
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| [19:33:59] | lordjim: | Auduin: Heres my frontend outptu: http://www.jnaughton.com/myth.out |
| [19:37:27] | lordjim: | Auduin: does the frontend output show much? |
| [19:37:55] | ivor: | well its trying to read your ringbuffer from /tmp. is this a combined front/backend setup? |
| [19:39:04] | lordjim: | What I set was my recording directory. I did this so that I wouldn't have to worry about permissions. |
| [19:39:26] | ivor: | is this a combined frontend/backend setup |
| [19:39:39] | lordjim: | not sure. |
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| [19:39:51] | lordjim: | Where in the frontend should this be set in? |
| [19:40:05] | ivor: | are you running a backend on a different machine to the frontend |
| [19:40:05] | Anduin: | lordjim: That just means "same box" |
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| [19:40:19] | lordjim: | Yuppers both the frontend and backend are running on the same box |
| [19:40:21] | ivor: | right what user is the backend running as. |
| [19:40:36] | lordjim: | both the backend and the frontend are running as the same user |
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| [19:41:19] | lordjim: | Does myth cleanup /tmp after it's done? |
| [19:41:35] | lordjim: | I don't see any .mpg files in /tmp |
| [19:41:39] | ivor: | is there anything in the backend log |
| [19:42:14] | lordjim: | Geeze yeah. Backend logs is downloading EIT, connecing to DB, yada, yada, yada |
| [19:43:08] | xris: | so weird... my machine is acting like xv is disabled (can screencap stuff that should be xv, speeds aren't quite right), but xvinfo says it's all fine. |
| [19:43:53] | D-side: | new driver anywhere, like nvidia or ati proprietary? |
| [19:43:53] | lordjim: | What is the RingBuf? |
| [19:44:01] | D-side: | not that you couldnt diagnose that yourself. |
| [19:44:33] | ivor: | lordjim: heh, an old term thats no longer used. :) |
| [19:44:55] | ivor: | but basically for some reason your frontend can't open the video files that the backend is saving |
| [19:45:17] | ivor: | so I guess check the logs for the backend and see if it says anything about what files it's creating. |
| [19:45:23] | Anduin: | It can open them, they just have no data. |
| [19:45:31] | lordjim: | ivor: It seems that I get alot of invalid file when opening... Is /tmp a bad place for this? |
| [19:45:52] | Blerghass: | xris: the excluded channels are still there. |
| [19:45:55] | Blerghass: | this is weird. |
| [19:46:32] | xris: | Blerghass: hang on, I'm doing the same thing right now |
| [19:46:48] | lordjim: | Anduin: Is the backend creating the RingBuf files? |
| [19:47:10] | Anduin: | lordjim: That is how it works, maybe share a chunk of your backend logs as well. |
| [19:47:30] | lordjim: | Okay hold on and I'll dump both shortly |
| [19:48:56] | xris: | then I think I'll be upgrading my mythbox |
| [19:51:12] | Blerghass: | upgrading? |
| [19:51:43] | xris: | Blerghass: upgrading to fc5 from fc3... hopefully better firewire support. |
| [19:52:49] | Blerghass: | oh ok |
| [19:52:58] | Blerghass: | using gentoo myself |
| [19:57:39] | lordjim: | Anduin: okay frontend output: http://www.jnaughton.com/myth.out (again) back end output: http://www.jnaughton.com/mythback.err |
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| [20:00:16] | lordjim: | Anduin: what is Error: Wrong PMT |
| [20:00:34] | Anduin: | lordjim: the DVB stuff is all black magic to me. |
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| [20:01:32] | lordjim: | Anduin: Intresting duration: -9223372036854.775 looks like 1/0 |
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| [20:03:33] | lordjim: | Anduin: I don't think it's a DVB problem as I can scan for channels... For some reason I have the feeling that myth is attempting to change video modes and fails doing so. |
| [20:03:56] | lordjim: | When you click on WatchTV what program is executed? |
| [20:04:00] | Anduin: | lordjim: Do actual recordings work? |
| [20:04:27] | lordjim: | Anduin: good question I'll attempt to record one of the channels through the guide |
| [20:04:33] | Anduin: | (showing a log of an actual recording would be more useful, when the frontend quits in live tv the game is over) |
| [20:05:35] | lordjim: | Anduin: If I start recording a channel that is already in progress will the recording start right away or do I have to pick a program that hasn't yet started? |
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| [20:05:56] | Anduin: | lordjim: single record should start now |
| [20:06:08] | lordjim: | Alright hold on then I'll see what I can do |
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| [20:07:50] | xris: | omg, those firewire rips are crisp |
| [20:08:47] | scopeuk: | good good good |
| [20:10:09] | D-side: | xris: ugh stop that. now i want to do it. :) |
| [20:10:21] | D-side: | i keep tellign myself "not until i have an hdtv set" |
| [20:10:23] | lordjim: | Anduin: I found a /tmp/1224_20060409170800.mpg |
| [20:10:28] | lordjim: | But it's empty... |
| [20:10:46] | lordjim: | Anduin: The frontend states it's recording it... |
| [20:10:52] | Anduin: | lordjim: Yeah, that is what is happening in the live tv case as well. |
| [20:12:27] | scopeuk: | ok i know im a skin flint but whats te cheapest option for controlign an external tuner |
| [20:12:42] | scopeuk: | the tuner has ir onyl i belive |
| [20:13:43] | xris: | D-side: well, it's not perfect... sometimes the backend doesn't make the connection to the box, and it just doesn't work |
| [20:13:50] | Anduin: | scopeuk: building one of the IR blasters (but only if you do it right the first time, and your time is worth $0.00) |
| [20:13:50] | lordjim: | Anduin: Is it possible that the process is buffered? That it will sync to disk after it's loaded so much into memory? Looking at the top output I get: 6731 jnaughto 26 10 247m 31m 11m S 4.8 3.6 0:16.70 mythbackend |
| [20:14:37] | scopeuk: | Anduin im on 1/2 term whcih means 2 weeks free time |
| [20:14:43] | scopeuk: | and i belvie i have al the componants needed |
| [20:15:46] | Anduin: | lordjim: It isn't buffered that much (and a buffering system for files is broken when a read of the buffered data failes). |
| [20:16:10] | xris: | now if I could get this ffmpeg thing straightened out to the point I could encode ipod video again.... 3 repositories with ffmpeg, and they all conflict with each other. |
| [20:16:21] | ** xris curses the personality conflicts between repository maintainers ** | |
| [20:16:32] | lordjim: | Anduin: Geeze then what your suggesting is my mythbackend might be bust? |
| [20:16:59] | lordjim: | Anduin: Can I assume this much that the DVB card is functioning? (based on my logs) |
| [20:17:14] | Anduin: | lordjim: I'd suggest your DVB stuff isn't working exactly well. (It could also by mythbackend, like I said, DVB = dark arts) |
| [20:17:45] | lordjim: | Anduin: If the dvb wasn't functioning at all I wouldn't be able to scan for channels correct? |
| [20:18:24] | Anduin: | lordjim: I think there is a large void between at all, channel scans, and fully. |
| [20:18:51] | Anduin: | lordjim: I'd suggest the mythtv-users mail list (more eyes) |
| [20:19:04] | lordjim: | Anduin: Cheers.... Will do. |
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| [20:21:18] | scopeuk: | can any one point me in the right direction for ir blaster plans google isent being too helpful |
| [20:23:06] | xris: | scopeuk: lirc.org |
| [20:23:52] | scopeuk: | thanks |
| [20:24:14] | scopeuk: | even tried wiki pediabut aparently there florida connection whent down a short while ago |
| [20:24:21] | xris: | heh |
| [20:24:51] | xris: | wtf?!?!?! zap2it just reset my channel listing |
| [20:25:06] | xris: | I just spent like 2 hours going through every channel that works/doesn't with my firewire connection |
| [20:25:18] | scopeuk: | poor poor you |
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| [20:34:59] | chinamill: | Howdy everyone... |
| [20:35:42] | chinamill: | Have anyone tried sasc? |
| [20:36:57] | hashbang: | ooh, interesting – softcam? |
| [20:37:03] | laga: | !trout chinamill |
| [20:37:03] | ** MythLogBot slaps chinamill with a trout on behalf of laga... ** | |
| [20:37:06] | laga: | !trout hashbang |
| [20:37:06] | ** MythLogBot slaps hashbang with a trout on behalf of laga... ** | |
| [20:37:25] | laga: | chinamill: go and hack paytv somewhere else |
| [20:38:44] | chinamill: | I have the subscription already (my father pays), I only want to run a linux based settopbox |
| [20:39:03] | hashbang: | oops, sowwy. ;-) |
| [20:39:40] | xris: | chinamill: are you in the US? |
| [20:39:43] | chinamill: | No probs |
| [20:39:50] | chinamill: | No in France |
| [20:40:22] | xris: | well, at least it's not horribly illegal where you are (that I know of)... but that kind of stuff is pretty much verboten to talk about around here. |
| [20:41:35] | laga: | xris: did you guys actually steal the word 'verboten'? ;) |
| [20:42:17] | chinamill: | I will register www.verboten.com would I violate any US laws then? |
| [20:42:24] | hashbang: | xris: it tends to attract 'the wrong sort' which then in turn tends to attract the other 'wrong sort' (i.e. lawyers) |
| [20:42:32] | xris: | laga: steal is such a harsh word... |
| [20:42:44] | laga: | xris: borrow? ;) |
| [20:42:49] | xris: | hashbang: exactly. |
| [20:42:53] | xris: | laga: exactly. :) |
| [20:42:54] | laga: | xris: c'mon, we borrowed half of *your* language ;) |
| [20:42:59] | hashbang: | chinamill: I expect it is illegal in France, actually; I'm sure you guys have adopted the EU copyright directive, like the UK. |
| [20:43:03] | xris: | but you know I speak german, anyway.. (well a bit of german) |
| [20:43:10] | laga: | xris: ok ;) |
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| [20:44:59] | xris: | laga: to be fair, I didn't understand english grammar until I studied german. |
| [20:45:32] | xris: | or rather, english grammar made much more sense after I studied german |
| [20:46:37] | xris: | 2 hours to encode a one-hour show with nuvexport.... I like not needing denoise anymore. |
| [20:47:20] | scopeuk: | :D |
| [20:47:34] | scopeuk: | engilh gramer isbadly taught |
| [20:47:40] | scopeuk: | english |
| [20:47:59] | xris: | scopeuk: yes. helps growing up bilingual, though |
| [20:48:36] | xris: | sucks that the avi container doesn't support anamorphic resolutions |
| [20:48:53] | scopeuk: | yup |
| [20:48:55] | laga: | scopeuk: so is spelling, obviously |
| [20:49:03] | scopeuk: | no tats jsut me |
| [20:49:04] | hashbang: | 'none of the "public" crackers are working on Top Up TV. There is no demand outside the UK, and not much more inside.' – lol |
| [20:49:19] | hashbang: | says it all, really. |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | ok, gotta run. |
| [20:50:03] | scopeuk: | top up tv is an interesting top up but id rarther have cheep cable |
| [20:50:08] | scopeuk: | and by cheep i mean £2 |
| [20:50:18] | hashbang: | "welcome to the UK – where all the good TV is free, and all the shite is paytv!" |
| [20:50:34] | xris: | tv's not free in the UK |
| [20:50:52] | hashbang: | scopeuk: £2 one-off charge, right? ;-) |
| [20:51:07] | hashbang: | xris: well, modulo the license fee. |
| [20:51:31] | hashbang: | xris: but then, if the alternative is advertising-sodden shite, I'm happy to keep paying. |
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| [20:52:29] | xris: | hashbang: yes. and in the US, we pay and still get the ads. |
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| [21:12:12] | chinamill: | OK fellows... thanks for the update, gotta catch some sleep. |
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| [21:22:20] | woodwizzle: | Hello |
| [21:22:31] | woodwizzle: | i need help identifying a hauppage card |
| [21:22:59] | woodwizzle: | it says WinTV 62471 Rev A |
| [21:23:24] | woodwizzle: | I think that means it uses the bt878 driver but I'm not really sure |
| [21:25:11] | woodwizzle: | how can I tell if its a hardware or software encoder or decoder? |
| [21:26:08] | xris: | woodwizzle: google the main chip on the card |
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| [21:32:58] | woodwizzle: | looks like its supported under linux so I guess I'll just give it a go =) |
| [21:33:12] | woodwizzle: | anyone in here use 2 or more capture cards on their mythbox? |
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| [21:35:39] | woodwizzle: | I'm curious how you guys split your cable |
| [21:35:51] | woodwizzle: | I have a cable splitter but when I use it the signal gets a lot worse |
| [21:36:13] | woodwizzle: | do those boosters work, or is their a higher quality cable splitter I should be using or somethin? |
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| [21:37:43] | Criggie: | I'd like a PVR 500 – they have a splitter/amp built in |
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| [21:41:37] | D-side: | wouldn't we all |
| [21:44:04] | Criggie: | D-side: I should flog off my existing hodge of cards and buy two PVR500s |
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| [21:44:12] | Criggie: | mmm four simultaneous recordings |
| [21:44:25] | Criggie: | then again the backend probably couldn't cope :) |
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| [21:47:17] | LinkSlice: | i'm trying to figure out how i'm giong to contruct my first myth box, if I wanted the picture in picture, does the second window get controlled from a completely different remote? I'm trying to figure out what my second card will be, I know my first tv card will be a hauppage pvr-350 |
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| [21:50:32] | xris: | LinkSlice: do you need the video-out on the 350? |
| [21:50:44] | xris: | it's somewhat of a PITA because it only displays mpeg2' |
| [21:52:05] | LinkSlice: | is the 350 not recomended? it's going to get plugged into a tv. So I'd guessed that would be the one I needed. I liked the on-card decoder and the video-out...I was planning on only using mpeg2... |
| [21:52:36] | LinkSlice: | (sorry if these are dumb q's, it's my first myth box) |
| [21:54:03] | LinkSlice: | right now i'm just trying to figure out how the second window gets controlled from the remote....:-/ |
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| [22:02:59] | achew22: | would someone be willing to help me setup lirc? |
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| [22:11:06] | achew22: | is there way to detect if serial devices are plugged in? and on what port they are on? |
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| [22:16:36] | Juski: | why are people still buying analogue gear? other than capturing satellite or cable boxes there's no point |
| [22:16:58] | xris: | oh, crap... just realized that I forgot to back up /var/www when I reformatted my mythbox. good thing I don't think I had any mythweb development code there.... |
| [22:17:07] | xris: | Juski: many people still have analog cable |
| [22:17:15] | Juski: | ah yes |
| [22:17:32] | Juski: | there's not much of that left in the UK |
| [22:17:57] | Criggie: | Juski: here in NZ there is a DVB-T stream in one city for testing, and thats it. |
| [22:18:06] | Criggie: | so theres no point buying anything flash now |
| [22:18:20] | xris: | Juski: it's still predominantly analog here |
| [22:18:34] | Juski: | lol. like so many people in the UK I'm so uk-centric ;-) |
| [22:19:04] | xris: | heh |
| [22:19:08] | Juski: | we were among the first to get digital TV, yet we'll be among the last to get HDTV |
| [22:19:10] | xris: | yeah, we WISH we had dvb stuff here. |
| [22:19:16] | xris: | nice standardized way to get a digital signal |
| [22:19:37] | Juski: | anyway I need to get my head & sore limbs down.. night all |
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| [22:20:07] | ivor: | Juski: yeah its some sort of national trait, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. |
| [22:23:35] | achew22: | xris: why did you reformat? |
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| [22:24:49] | xris: | achew22: because my main OS partition is maybe 10G and I wanted a clean install (fedora doesn't upgrade well) |
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| [22:24:57] | achew22: | ahh |
| [22:25:18] | achew22: | Juski in colorado we have the most rediculous lobbiers! They are fighting (and have been for 7 years) to keep us from building a HDTV tower (yep we still don't have hdtv) |
| [22:26:28] | achew22: | they claim that when we build it it will get hit by lightning then uproot itself from its 60+m hole in the ground, then roll down a hill up another down 2 more then up one then over then make a sharp turn and run over a school that will be filled with 5000+ kids because they will be doing a special assembly for the entire district in that one building.... its rediculous |
| [22:27:14] | achew22: | xris is there a way to detect what port your serial device is plugged into? |
| [22:27:40] | Criggie: | achew22: using your eyes perhaps? |
| [22:28:20] | achew22: | I'm not sure what to say to that without being extremely offencive so i'm not going to say a thing |
| [22:29:03] | RaYmAn-Bx: | unless the device responds in a particular way to certain pin activity I doubt it's possible |
| [22:29:10] | achew22: | okay... |
| [22:29:11] | achew22: | too bad |
| [22:29:31] | achew22: | stupid serial ir adapter |
| [22:29:57] | RaYmAn-Bx: | why do you need that though? |
| [22:30:57] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I mean, how often do you swap around a serial adapter on a myth box? :) |
| [22:32:36] | achew22: | hardly ever |
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| [22:32:50] | achew22: | its just not workign when I compile lirc — and I wanted to see if I was really compiling it to the right port |
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| [22:33:12] | achew22: | RaYmAn-Bx, what distro do you use? |
| [22:33:37] | RaYmAn-Bx: | achew22: gentoo. I use an Ati RF USB remote though |
| [22:34:04] | achew22: | too bad... |
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| [22:34:17] | achew22: | do you know of any good tutorials for ubuntu and serial adapters? |
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| [22:34:32] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sorry, can't say I do.. |
| [22:34:53] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I don't know much about serial ports in linux, but do you really compile it for a specific port? No runtime option to choose it? |
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| [22:37:41] | achew22: | RaYmAn-Bx no runtime option — unfortunately |
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| [22:38:28] | RaYmAn-Bx: | weird |
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| [22:39:19] | achew22: | RaYmAn-Bx okay, I'm going to try again with the hauppage ir |
| [22:39:35] | achew22: | RaYmAn-Bx, I have 2 cards though — which one should I plug the dongle into? |
| [22:39:59] | Criggie: | achew22: the first / lowest one I think |
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| [22:40:16] | achew22: | how do I detect which one is the 1st/lowest? |
| [22:40:38] | RaYmAn-Bx: | the pci slot with the lowest number I guess |
| [22:41:35] | achew22: | what command would list active processes? |
| [22:41:54] | RaYmAn-Bx: | ps? |
| [22:42:21] | achew22: | running programs? |
| [22:42:45] | achew22: | I want to check to see if lircd is running... |
| [22:42:45] | RaYmAn-Bx: | what exactly are you trying to do? :P |
| [22:42:56] | RaYmAn-Bx: | ps aux|grep lirc |
| [22:43:20] | achew22: | ha ha ha — it even found that I was looking ofr it and listed it |
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| [22:50:14] | SSTwinrova: | I have a cable connection question: What's the best way (preferably without using a converter box + IR blaster) to connect to a cable hookup that uses separate lines for A and B channels? |
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| [22:53:30] | fir3st0rm: | i can't run mythdvd/mythmusic |
| [22:53:57] | fir3st0rm: | i get these errors: Unable to configure plugin 'mythmusic': not initialized / Unable to run plugin 'mythmusic': not initialized |
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| [23:11:09] | iamsthitha: | hey |
| [23:12:19] | iamsthitha: | assuming I have multiple video cards |
| [23:12:37] | iamsthitha: | can I have multiple instances of mythtv running on each card? |
| [23:12:46] | Agrajag-: | why would you want that? |
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| [23:12:49] | iamsthitha: | so that different TVs can see different programming |
| [23:13:13] | fir3st0rm: | /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythmusic.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11HostSetting11whereClauseEv |
| [23:13:32] | fir3st0rm: | how can i fix that error? none of the plugins gets loaded |
| [23:13:38] | Agrajag-: | well i can't think of anything that would stop you doing that.. but im sure there are better ways to do what you've said |
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| [23:14:01] | iamsthitha: | ok.. what are the better ways? |
| [23:14:22] | Agrajag-: | fir3st0rm: sounds like your plugins aren't the same version |
| [23:14:26] | ** iamsthitha wants around 4 different TVs to be able to hook up to the media center ** | |
| [23:15:13] | Agrajag-: | why not just have them all using all the sources? |
| [23:15:22] | Juski: | re |
| [23:15:28] | Juski: | damn insomnia |
| [23:15:29] | fir3st0rm: | i got the plugins from someone in a .deb file. it works for him |
| [23:15:49] | iamsthitha: | Agrajag-, are you talking to me? |
| [23:15:50] | Agrajag-: | fir3st0rm: well they're not the same version as the rest of mythtv |
| [23:15:54] | Agrajag-: | iamsthitha: yeah |
| [23:16:03] | laga: | Juski: you're telling me. i had way too much caffeine ;) |
| [23:16:07] | iamsthitha: | Agrajag-, then I dont understand what you mean ;) |
| [23:16:14] | Juski: | iamsthitha: why not just have 4 frontends? 4 video outs is asking a bit much of one system – and will be a mare to control |
| [23:16:35] | iamsthitha: | how will the 4 front ends go to different TVs ? |
| [23:16:39] | Juski: | laga: I'm shatterred, but still can't sleep |
| [23:16:41] | Agrajag-: | iamsthitha: why don't you just have one backend with both cards, and have all the frontends being able to see both sources |
| [23:16:50] | laga: | Juski: same for me. :/ |
| [23:16:55] | Juski: | iamsthitha: you'd have the frontends in the same room as each tv |
| [23:17:08] | laga: | Juski: that'd be the perfect time to kill a bottle of jack daniels together ;) |
| [23:17:08] | iamsthitha: | so.. you want me to have 5 computers? |
| [23:17:24] | laga: | iamsthitha: everyone should have at least 5 computers ;) |
| [23:17:38] | iamsthitha: | laga, right.. |
| [23:17:44] | Juski: | iamsthitha: you're the greedy one who wants 4 mythtv outputs |
| [23:17:54] | D-side: | heh |
| [23:17:59] | Agrajag-: | iamsthitha: if you have 5 video outs, there's nothing stopping you running 5 different frontends on the different displays |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | you can use hauppauge media mvp units anyway |
| [23:18:01] | iamsthitha: | hey! there's a reason its called a media CENTER |
| [23:18:12] | Juski: | it's not called a media center |
| [23:18:14] | D-side: | oh boy. |
| [23:18:16] | Juski: | it's called mythtv |
| [23:18:21] | iamsthitha: | Agrajag-, can you define a frontend |
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| [23:18:26] | laga: | iamsthitha: www.microsoft.com – they have a product called media center |
| [23:18:35] | iamsthitha: | Juski, no I'm calling mine a media center cause I wanna be cool |
| [23:18:44] | Juski: | lame, more like but hey |
| [23:19:11] | Juski: | anyway just how many PCI slots does the machine you plan to use for this 'media center' have?? |
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| [23:19:25] | iamsthitha: | probably 6 |
| [23:19:38] | laga: | heh. get some pvr 500s and some nvidia pci cards and you should be fine ;) |
| [23:19:40] | Agrajag-: | iamsthitha: mythtv runs mythbackend, and mythfrontends. you can have as many mythfrontends as you like connecting to a mythbackend, whether they're on different computers or not |
| [23:19:57] | iamsthitha: | Agrajag-, ok.. so a front end requires another computer |
| [23:20:01] | Agrajag-: | no it doesn't |
| [23:20:13] | iamsthitha: | hmm? |
| [23:20:19] | Juski: | or an xbox, or media MVP, or one of those nice Roku thingies |
| [23:20:44] | iamsthitha: | ok.. I think I understand what you mean now |
| [23:20:46] | Agrajag-: | iamsthitha: you can run mythfrontend on the same machine mythbackend is running on. you can run several if you like. you can also run them on other computers if you want |
| [23:21:00] | iamsthitha: | you just want me to run multiple front ends and one backend |
| [23:21:09] | iamsthitha: | I was gonna do that anyway ;) |
| [23:21:21] | Juski: | next thing to consider is how you'd get the remote signals back to the main box |
| [23:21:22] | Agrajag-: | i don't want you to do anything except read the docs and figure out what you actually want to do |
| [23:21:31] | iamsthitha: | Juski, right |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | it's probably possible but it'd be hard. a lot of people have enough hassle getting one TV out working, let alone 4 |
| [23:22:03] | iamsthitha: | actually.. that goes into.. how to connect all these things to my computer without having huge wires running around my house |
| [23:22:39] | Agrajag-: | iamsthitha: most people run one frontend per box |
| [23:22:52] | iamsthitha: | Agrajag-, right.. so my question is... |
| [23:23:02] | iamsthitha: | HOW do I run more than one frontend in a box? |
| [23:23:02] | Juski: | then there are desktop focus issues – i.e. which frontend process is on which desktop... |
| [23:23:20] | iamsthitha: | should i have 4 Xorgs running? |
| [23:23:26] | Juski: | you'd have to |
| [23:23:29] | iamsthitha: | ok |
| [23:23:41] | iamsthitha: | if I do something like.. have dual mon cards |
| [23:23:49] | iamsthitha: | can I have 2 frontends on different screens on one Xorg? |
| [23:24:00] | Juski: | iamsthitha: vga cards give you one TV output – big snag |
| [23:24:01] | Agrajag-: | yes, but you're going to have focus issues |
| [23:24:22] | iamsthitha: | hmm? |
| [23:24:34] | iamsthitha: | (that hmm was aimed at Juski ) |
| [23:24:37] | Juski: | get 3 or more hauppauge mvp units – wireless ones are available now |
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| [23:25:09] | Juski: | iamsthitha: when was the last time you saw a graphics card with more than one TV output? I cant remember ever seeing any |
| [23:25:39] | Juski: | and if you were to use VGA/DVI outputs... getting those round the house will be messy |
| [23:26:07] | iamsthitha: | Juski, no.. but I dont necessarily have TVs.. I have projectors which can take in the monitor output |
| [23:26:10] | Juski: | best way for you would be to buy 3 or more hauppauge mvp boxes |
| [23:26:16] | iamsthitha: | projector (only one :() |
| [23:26:27] | iamsthitha: | bah.. I dont like those mvp boxes |
| [23:26:41] | Juski: | and if you wanna do HDTV, most systems can cope with one at a time, two at a push |
| [23:26:58] | iamsthitha: | I need only 1 HDTV |
| [23:27:05] | iamsthitha: | the rest are VGA |
| [23:27:29] | iamsthitha: | and.. when you say "most systems" are you referring to systems with only one video card? |
| [23:27:42] | Juski: | HDTV playback will test the mettle of any machine – you might not have enough grunt to play back 1,2 or 3 video streams on top of that |
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| [23:28:14] | WAR_CH|LD: | how do I display the return status of hte last run command? |
| [23:28:27] | Juski: | then there's PCI bus bandwidth to think about... this isn't gonna be a battle you're gonna win easily |
| [23:28:46] | iamsthitha: | well the video cards are going in the AGP/PCIe slots |
| [23:28:55] | laga: | WAR_CH|LD: i believe that's described in one of the bash howtos at www.tldp.org |
| [23:29:02] | Juski: | yeh but you get one AGP slot |
| [23:29:10] | Juski: | 32 bit PCI is like 33MHz... |
| [23:29:45] | iamsthitha: | right so.. I guess I have to invest in mobos with multiple PCIe slots |
| [23:29:54] | Juski: | A + B + C + D == forget it, and do it properly ;-) |
| [23:30:09] | iamsthitha: | nooo! |
| [23:30:20] | iamsthitha: | I must have my ULTIMATE media center! :P |
| [23:30:38] | Juski: | I must have my sleeeep, but that aint happenning, so BAH |
| [23:30:52] | Juski: | www.mce.com |
| [23:30:54] | Juski: | :-P |
| [23:30:58] | iamsthitha: | hehe.. sleep is one of those things that you cant always have |
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| [23:31:08] | iamsthitha: | in fact.. sleep is pretty rare |
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| [23:31:30] | Juski: | anyway, why pick this channel to do your trolling, hmm? |
| [23:31:32] | laga: | thou shalt never cut down on sleep |
| [23:31:41] | iamsthitha: | I am not trolling yet :( |
| [23:31:53] | iamsthitha: | I was asking feasability questions |
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| [23:32:25] | Juski: | and we're saying it's probably feasible, but hard as hell. much easier & cheaper in terms of your time to get 4 systems instead |
| [23:32:35] | Yellow-Snow: | hey.. has anyone made a carputer? |
| [23:32:38] | iamsthitha: | I wouldnt ay cheaper |
| [23:32:41] | iamsthitha: | say* |
| [23:32:46] | Yellow-Snow: | im gana make one.. gana own w/ my pvr |
| [23:33:15] | iamsthitha: | well thank you for your help.. and goodbye! |
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| [23:33:33] | Juski: | you can't transmit audio & video wirelessly in good quality unless it's over IP, so you'd need to run composite or svideo on long cables...and that is very sucky |
| [23:33:40] | Juski: | theres always one! |
| [23:34:06] | Juski: | you can but try, then you must give up |
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| [23:35:30] | Yellow-Snow: | don't they make those? wireless audio and video transmiters |
| [23:35:43] | Juski: | yes, but they're shit |
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| [23:35:51] | Yellow-Snow: | ah i c |
| [23:36:01] | Yellow-Snow: | anywho.. thought baout making a carputer juski? |
| [23:36:25] | laga: | juski was more thinking along the lines of automatic gun turrets for his car ;) |
| [23:36:34] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [23:36:38] | Juski: | or those flame throwers they sell in SA |
| [23:36:44] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [23:36:54] | Juski: | slightly illegal in the UK |
| [23:37:04] | Yellow-Snow: | ya think? |
| [23:37:11] | Juski: | Yellow-Snow: a friend of mine at work has a carputer |
| [23:37:28] | Yellow-Snow: | badass? |
| [23:37:45] | Juski: | based on an epia-m8000 board, running w****** from a 1GB CF card |
| [23:37:59] | Juski: | has USB TV stick, GPS etc.. nifty as |
| [23:38:19] | Yellow-Snow: | yea thats what im making |
| [23:38:31] | ** laga is gonna build a carputer based around a SOHO router ** | |
| [23:38:32] | Yellow-Snow: | tho.. f those atx mini cards.. cost to much |
| [23:38:35] | Juski: | as for me – no such plans til I find what's leaking water into the passenger footwell |
| [23:38:38] | laga: | i aim for the ¤350 price range |
| [23:38:49] | Yellow-Snow: | 350? |
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| [23:38:55] | deniidil: | hey guys |
| [23:38:56] | Juski: | EUR350 prolly |
| [23:39:01] | Yellow-Snow: | ah |
| [23:39:09] | Yellow-Snow: | im gana upgrade my main copm and use it as a carputer |
| [23:39:19] | Yellow-Snow: | b/c those mini atx so damn expensive |
| [23:39:28] | Juski: | careful of the PSU issues then |
| [23:39:35] | Yellow-Snow: | er just a converter |
| [23:39:36] | laga: | Yellow-Snow: have fun draining your battery :) |
| [23:39:41] | deniidil: | working on compiling prereqs on my box here – mplayer is having "dvdread" disabled... this anything to worry about? |
| [23:39:42] | Yellow-Snow: | 250watt inverter |
| [23:39:48] | laga: | a converter? hehe. have fun with voltage peaks. |
| [23:39:51] | Yellow-Snow: | not that bad |
| [23:39:59] | Juski: | those mini atx board take like 20W tops |
| [23:40:11] | Yellow-Snow: | yea see |
| [23:40:12] | laga: | and have fun with the carputer dying when you start the car |
| [23:40:18] | laga: | and so on |
| [23:40:19] | Yellow-Snow: | thats the thing |
| [23:40:24] | Juski: | not that bad? yer 12V goes up to 15V when the alternator's running |
| [23:40:30] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont want to start my carputer when i turn on the car |
| [23:40:43] | Yellow-Snow: | and thats the main problem people have |
| [23:40:50] | laga: | check out www.cartft.com they have some nifty stuff. and i should be easy to build a stabilizer unit for the psu |
| [23:41:01] | Juski: | deniidil: thats fine if you don't want dvd playback in mplayer |
| [23:41:57] | deniidil: | then it IS something to worry about |
| [23:42:03] | deniidil: | :D |
| [23:42:04] | Juski: | car pcs are great, but I've nowhere to put a display, and those posh slide out TFT head units are just s-i-l-l-y prices |
| [23:42:31] | Juski: | deniidil: but mplayer doesn't do DVD menus (yet), so I'd stick with xine if I were you |
| [23:42:48] | deniidil: | really... |
| [23:42:55] | deniidil: | i thought mplayer was a prereq... |
| [23:42:58] | Yellow-Snow: | yea those prices are bs |
| [23:43:14] | Juski: | deniidil: its libraries prolly are |
| [23:43:19] | laga: | Juski: i'd be more worried about safety with them. car pcs must have very good interfaces |
| [23:43:33] | deniidil: | is mplayer's dvd support needed for mythTV to play dvds |
| [23:43:46] | deniidil: | i thought it was |
| [23:43:48] | Juski: | deniidil: not as far as I know |
| [23:43:56] | Juski: | mythtv has built in dvd player ;-) |
| [23:44:01] | deniidil: | k |
| [23:44:05] | norax (norax!i=norax@norax.net) has quit ("ircII EPIC4-2.0 -- Are we there yet?") | |
| [23:44:07] | deniidil: | then screw mplayer |
| [23:44:10] | deniidil: | yum install xine :D |
| [23:44:18] | Juski: | laga: I agree. which is one of the reasons I don't own a GPS |
| [23:44:26] | Yellow-Snow: | 60$ |
| [23:44:27] | Yellow-Snow: | gps |
| [23:44:28] | Juski: | (and the fact I can read a map) |
| [23:44:39] | Yellow-Snow: | er yea |
| [23:44:45] | Yellow-Snow: | im worried about my screen getting jacked |
| [23:44:48] | Yellow-Snow: | gata find a way |
| [23:44:58] | Juski: | take it out of the car :-P |
| [23:45:05] | deniidil: | reading a map? what is this "map" you speak of? :P |
| [23:45:08] | Yellow-Snow: | yea maybe a quick disconnect |
| [23:45:25] | ** laga can't read map if his life depended on it ** | |
| [23:45:26] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.imageuploader.org/uploads/d13e1b5b25.jpg |
| [23:45:32] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.imageuploader.org/uploads/d01bc1d95a.jpg |
| [23:45:36] | Yellow-Snow: | any idea how to mount it? |
| [23:45:36] | ** deniidil is excellent with maps in all seriousness ** | |
| [23:46:45] | Juski: | Yellow-Snow: put the pc under the seat or in the boot. no way even mini itx will fit in a DIN E |
| [23:46:59] | Yellow-Snow: | er not that |
| [23:47:02] | Yellow-Snow: | the screen |
| [23:47:12] | Yellow-Snow: | im gana put the comp in the trunk.. |
| [23:47:19] | Juski: | get a pioneer head unit with a flip-out screen |
| [23:47:21] | Yellow-Snow: | its not gana be a mini atx |
| [23:47:25] | Yellow-Snow: | .. get money? |
| [23:47:29] | laga: | Juski: DIN E? what's that? where the head unit is located? |
| [23:47:46] | Juski: | DIN E == standard european car stereo hole size |
| [23:48:05] | Juski: | probably international too |
| [23:48:23] | laga: | Juski: there's a travla case for miniitx hardware that fits in such a din port |
| [23:48:37] | Yellow-Snow: | er im just talking about the screen people |
| [23:48:37] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [23:48:39] | Juski: | Yellow-Snow: suction cup / velcro on the dash... quick mini-DIN connector for rapid removal |
| [23:48:56] | Yellow-Snow: | hm thats pretty high up |
| [23:49:04] | Yellow-Snow: | like.. everyone and their mother would see |
| [23:49:19] | Juski: | you don't have a choice, not without changing cars |
| [23:49:22] | Yellow-Snow: | tho.. would be pretty bad ass |
| [23:49:51] | ** Juski pulls up alongside Yellow-Snow and gawps at the shocking Paris Hilton vid playing away ** | |
| [23:49:55] | Yellow-Snow: | i was thinking.. A below the ac controls.. w/ some moding.. or take out the cdplayer and ac controls.. dropping them to the bottom and putting it in there |
| [23:50:02] | Yellow-Snow: | hahahah lmao juski lmao! |
| [23:50:36] | Juski: | good luck moving the heater shebang |
| [23:50:49] | Yellow-Snow: | lol why |
| [23:50:54] | Juski: | a/c my ass :-P |
| [23:51:10] | Juski: | Yellow-Snow: it's all linked with metal cables.. thats why |
| [23:51:30] | Juski: | the controls move levers connected with metal cables |
| [23:51:46] | Yellow-Snow: | blah |
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| [23:51:47] | Juski: | they're a bitch to move |
| [23:51:56] | Yellow-Snow: | i shall watch paris hilton from the dash then! |
| [23:51:59] | Juski: | talk to an interiors specialist ;-) |
| [23:52:25] | Juski: | is your car a Peugot 206? |
| [23:52:53] | Yellow-Snow: | nope |
| [23:53:04] | SSTwinrova: | hey, I have a hookup question: What's the best way (preferably without using a converter box + IR blaster) to connect to a cable hookup that uses separate lines for A and B channels? |
| [23:53:15] | Juski: | SSTwinrova: wth? |
| [23:53:34] | Juski: | A & B channels? |
| [23:53:43] | Juski: | you mean high channels & low channels? |
| [23:53:52] | Juski: | prolly best using an antenna combiner thingy |
| [23:53:54] | SSTwinrova: | don't think so |
| [23:54:02] | SSTwinrova: | like there are two jacks in the wall |
| [23:54:10] | Juski: | antenna duplexer |
| [23:54:14] | laga: | Juski: is yours a pug 206? |
| [23:54:18] | SSTwinrova: | hmmm...ok |
| [23:54:19] | Juski: | or more like cable duplexer |
| [23:54:25] | Juski: | laga: Seat Leon |
| [23:54:37] | laga: | Juski: ok. just wondering why you're asking ;) |
| [23:54:58] | Juski: | it's a bitch when I google for car parts... google comes up with links for seats.. as in the things you sit on |
| [23:55:30] | laga: | Juski: hahaha. try to get a repair manual, but it looks like at least peugeots likes to keep them secret |
| [23:55:40] | Juski: | laga: just thought it looked like a 206. hired one on my last French holiday |
| [23:56:11] | Juski: | nice car to drive the French way too.. and great for French parking ;-) |
| [23:56:17] | laga: | Juski: nice ;) |
| [23:56:33] | laga: | Juski: hehe. you'd better get a bad-ass SUV for french parking. or a tank. |
| [23:56:44] | laga: | good suspensions work better with their streets, too |
| [23:57:08] | Juski: | nah I noticed some people leave their handbrakes off... so you can nudge them along the road carefully |
| [23:57:33] | laga: | yeah. they do that intentionally. if i ever catch someone doing that to my car, he's gonna get in trouble... |
| [23:57:41] | Juski: | lol |
| [23:57:51] | xris: | ah, and now to start that lengthy process of compiling mythtv.... |
| [23:57:59] | Juski: | not so bad if they're not travelling so fast when it happens, laga ;) |
| [23:58:07] | laga: | i spent 4 hours yesterday fixing the paint, and i'm gonna spend whole monday on it, too. people better don't mess with it.. ;) |
| [23:58:19] | laga: | xris: distcc/ccache/beer? |
| [23:58:28] | xris: | laga: new OS |
| [23:58:36] | laga: | xris: humm. good luck ;) |
| [23:58:42] | xris: | 20 mins or so, I think |
| [23:58:56] | xris: | maybe not that long, but long enough |
| [23:59:04] | Juski: | not so bad then. at least you don't have to emerge world :-P |
| [23:59:36] | Juski: | laga: so you're a qualified paint fixer now eh? |
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