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Monday, April 3rd, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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polak:

hello

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corpix:

hello polak

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polak:

is DataDirect ofline by any chance?

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vividan:

kormoc: still having issues with the password thing. In the end it would be nice to have a password protected mythweb so maybe help me get that setup?

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** polak is setting up MythTV for the first time and just got a DataDirect account **

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kormoc:

vividan, in the .htaccecss file it talks a little about how to set that up

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corpix:

vividan, for newer releases i think you need to set up htdigest

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vividan:

k

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corpix:

AuthType Digest

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corpix:

AuthName "MythTV"

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corpix:

AuthDigestFile /var/htdigest

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polak:

I keep getting Authorization failed when trying to Retrieve Lineups in mythsetup... or when trying to mythfilldatabase

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vividan:

what are valid realms?

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kormoc:

polak, it always fails once

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corpix:

polak, maybe you need to set up mysql for user "mythtv"

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polak:

kormoc, yes I read... but unfortunately... for me, it's EVERY time ;)

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polak:

I've run the sql script... it's there

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kormoc:

heh, well, that's just odd

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polak:

... yep :| :(

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corpix:

i had to set up mysql manually, could be that its done automagically in later releases

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kormoc:

I assume when you setup the datadirect stuff in mythtv-setup, it pulled down your listing area and all that?

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kormoc:

corpix, it's not

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corpix:

oh ok

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polak:

kormoc, no... I can't even Retrieve Listing there... :|

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polak:

again "Authorization Failed"

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kormoc:

corpix, but he wouldn't be getting datadirect errors if it wasn't setup

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kormoc:

polak, you sure your user/password was correct?

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polak:

I can loging to labs.zap2it.com no problemo

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corpix:

i see

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polak:

oh yes... trust me I've rechecked it 100 times... going nuts ;)

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kormoc:

you have wget with ssl support?

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polak:

1.10.2 > 1.9.1 so I guess so...

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kormoc:

well, it's a compile time option

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kormoc:

ldd /usr/bin/wget

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polak:

ahhh... I'll look into that in a sec...

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kormoc:

it should show libssl and libcrpyto

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vividan:

kormoc: yayayayya it's working thank you so much!

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polak:

yep... :( it's there

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kormoc:

you're welcome

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polak:

kormoc, BRB... the lady is calling me

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kormoc:

polak, icky... uhh... donno anything else, sorry

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corpix:

kormoc, do you know where to get a "TODO" list of the devs ? I wonder what their priorities are

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kormoc:

corpix, svn.mythtv.org, under view tickets

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corpix:

k, thx

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kury-:

anyone here running gentoo? I'm having some problems setting up the mysql part of myth..

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kormoc:

what problems?

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kury-:

why does "eselect mysql list" return nothing when I have mysql installed/emerged??

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kury-:

something to do w/ the setups... and the current workings of mysql...

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kury-:

I'm not really sure.. I just can't move past this step in the wiki..

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kormoc:

you don't have eselect-mysql installed?

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kormoc:

tho, you don't even need to do that if you only have one version of mysql installed

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kury-:

kormoc, I have eselect-mysql installed.. (the latest)

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kormoc:

so what does eselect mysql list say?

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kury-:

kormoc, and I only have one version of mysql install... (I'm pretty sure anyways)

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kury-:

Available MySQL versions:

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kury-:

(none found)

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kormoc:

huh

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kormoc:

mysql --version says?

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kury-:

but... mysql is installed.. I've never really done anything with it... but it should be there.. and it is from what I can tell

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kury-:

mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.14, for pc-linux-gnu (i686) using readline 5.1

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kormoc:

yeah, that's odd

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kormoc:

I would just continue on, cause there's no issues with not using eselect

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kury-:

I'm not really sure where to head from here...

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kury-:

kormoc, other than.. I can't use mysql to setup the mythtv database..

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kormoc:

ooh? why's that?

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polak:

kormoc, ha... it worked... just needed some time I guess...

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kormoc:

cool :)

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polak:

thanks for the tips anyhoo

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kormoc:

you're welcome

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blk:

hi, is it possible to launch external apps from within mythtv and can it handle a touchscreen? (configured as pointer device (mouse) in X)

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kormoc:

check the mailing list about touchscreens

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kury-:

kormoc: mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql

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kury-:

Enter password:

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kury-:

ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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kormoc:

as for external apps, depends on what you want

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kormoc:

kury-, did you set the password for root?

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kury-:

kormoc, ya.. and I've reset it... and I've retyped it... and I keep getting error 1045

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JasonX:

corpix: I dont suppose you know if you managed to get ac3 pass thru via spdif AND downmixed stereo via analog simultaneously (via mplayer)

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kormoc:

kury-, try mysql -u root -p -h 127.0.0.1

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kury-:

kormoc, same thing

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

anything odd in the mysql log?

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corpix:

JasonX, sorry, no. i played around with my asoundrc thats all

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kury-:

kormoc, seems like I can only connect if I setup a completely blank password??

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JasonX:

corpix OK I dunno if its possible anyway i dont even know if windows can do that but i think it did, i'll check it tomorrow

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kury-:

kormoc, nothing in the log either.. (/var/log/mysql/mysql.log)

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corpix:

JasonX, maybe the #alsa guys can help you out

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blk:

kormoc: in my case the external app would be gpsdrive, but the question wasn't meant that specific

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JasonX:

corpix: ahhhh i hadnt even thought of an alsa irc chan – doh! well anyway i got simul audio for normal stereo, ac3 pass thru would be icing on cake, else i'll need to add a ac3 on/off switch to myth GUI

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JasonX:

cheers

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corpix:

cheers

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kormoc:

blk, you'd need to write your own mythplugin for that then, you see there's already a handfull of plugins, and I would have pointed you towards one that was more common if it existed

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kormoc:

kury-, that's super odd, have you reemerged mysql by chance?

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kury-:

kormoc, lol.. not today :P

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kormoc:

kury-, might want to, just to be sure it's clean

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kury-:

ight..

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blk:

kormoc: ok, i guess that shouldn't be too hard – gonna take a look at some other plugins, do you have a suggestion on which one is a good start for learning?

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AngryElf:

hey all, i need some method of converting my 3 drives into one filesystem so i can use it as my recordings directory

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kormoc:

blk, mythvideo includes code to launch media players, so it would be simple to change that to whatever you would want

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blk:

kormoc: thanks a lot!

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kormoc:

you're welcome

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blk:

as for touchscreens if i'm right that should be working (at least partly) -> patches were merged into the trunk in january for initial support

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kormoc:

Yeah, and iirc, on the mailing list, they have patches for full support

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blk:

3 days ago was a merge "Mouse support in the menus. Click + drag left to emulate escape." – guess it'll be svn then :)

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kormoc:

heh, well, I only know what I've heard on that matter, given I don't own a touchscreen :)

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blk:

i'm planning on using it for my carpc – investigating several solutions..last one was GPE/matchbox-wm

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JasonX:

BTW has anyone come across a cable that can split an svideo output to give svideo AND composite in colour from just a 4 prong svideo out AND would an svideo amplifier improve the tv-picture

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JasonX:

I have seen a device at maplins that claims to convert svideo to colour composite and an svideo splitter on ebay BUT dunno if this is gonna work as if svideo is split signal may degrade, so maybe i need a distribution amp that also converts :?

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JasonX:

though all the time i spend on this i winder if i should throw ALL analog gear in house on the tip, and stick to digital video/audio and avoid some of the madness

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dtm:

JasonX: if you're interested in avoiding madness, you may want to look into the use of punctuation

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monkeypet:

Hi can someone try my torrent and just tell me if it starts downloading: http://yoeu.net/~fa/xebian.tar.bz2.torrent

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dtm:

punctuation and grammer applied at just the right vector can produce what linguistic science knows as sentences.

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dtm:

holy freaking crap. did i just say 'grammer'?

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goodwill:

are there recomendation on what infra red receiver would be good? (looked all over wiki)

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dtm:

that's gotta be the only time in my entirely life i've spelled 'grammer'

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dtm:

ENTIRELY? I'M LOSING MY MIND

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** dtm un-overclocks his brain **

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rhacer:

I've got the same question goodwill

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JasonX:

i use punk-tuation an anarchic version of grammir

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goodwill:

it seems like a replaytv remote woudl be good for that but I do not see it being supported by lirc

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rhacer:

I've got a Harmony remote I just want an IR receiver that will support it.

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corpix:

dtm, lol

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dtm:

:-/

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corpix:

monkeypet, it does

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goodwill:

rhacer: http://www.ofausa.com/k_demo/index.html

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goodwill:

rhacer: I wonder how long it lasts and if keys are easy to press

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rhacer:

wow that think looks wild.

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corpix:

btw, are all these : e.g. C39#6 radio channels ?

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Perdignus:

Does anyone here have a WinTV-PVR 500?

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bagleabuse:

Perdignus, I don't but I will help you if oyu need help

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Perdignus:

thanks bagleabuse

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Achew22:

yeah — whats your problem?

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Perdignus:

I think I have everything installed ok, but when Myth tries to play or record from it, my system reboots

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Achew22:

I don't think its installed ok then

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Achew22:

what specificly fails?

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Perdignus:

I'm not sure where it's failing but I never get a picture on the screen, it goes black then reboots

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Achew22:

it reboots?

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Perdignus:

maybe I should go through the install again

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Perdignus:

yeah, the computer reboots

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Achew22:

that is very strange

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Achew22:

what are you running

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Perdignus:

yeah, I've never had a problem like this on this box

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Achew22:

what distro

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Perdignus:

I'm running debian sid, 2.6.16 (compileing 2.6.16.1 right now)

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Perdignus:

I'm running udev, not hotplug, is that an issue for getting the firmware to load properly?

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Achew22:

what ivtv are you running?

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Perdignus:

0.6.1

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corpix:

Is it currently possible to just record the _AUDIO_ but not the video for a dvb-radio channel ?

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corpix:

... since it is a waste of hdd space

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Achew22:

I don't beleive so — you could parse it out wiht some program

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mchou:

Perdignus: a reboot in this case is most likely caused by a bad driver, not myth

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mchou:

Perdignus: myth is all user space, and userspace apps dont cause reboots :)

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Perdignus:

should xawtv be able to view tv from a WinTV-PVR 500 if it's setup properly?

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Achew22:

yes

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corpix:

so does kaffeine

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Perdignus:

I'll shoot for that then move onto Myth, it must be an install problem

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corpix:

btw, i RMA'd my pvr-500 did it get for some of you also that HOT ? 65Â°C here (on a nforce4board)

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mchou:

Perdignus: how was ivtv "installed"

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corpix:

Achew22, ?

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mchou:

Perdignus: I mean did you compile it yourself from source or some other fashion?

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Perdignus:

mchou: I d/l'd the firmware files and put them in place then

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mchou:

Perdignus: I saked about the driver, not the firmware

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mchou:

asked*

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Perdignus:

then d/l'd, unarchived and did a make then make install on the driver

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mchou:

Perdignus: which version of driver and kernel?

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Perdignus:

mchou: kernel is 2.6.16 , ivtv is 0.6.1

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mchou:

ok.

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mchou:

missed it when you mentioned it earlier

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Perdignus:

np

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mchou:

Perdignus: paste the output of the ivtv driver load in pastebin

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Perdignus:

one thing that might be the cause, is that I originall installed 0.4.4 not knowing it was for the 2.4 kernel

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mchou:

Perdignus: well, make sure you remove all traced of the 0.4.4 install then

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mchou:

traces*

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Perdignus:

mchou: I thought an install of 0.6.1 would overwrite anyting left by 0.4.4, not true?

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mchou:

Perdignus: I doubt if that's true at all

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mchou:

Perdignus: in fact you might need to do "make modules_install" on your kernel src tree again

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mchou:

since the prior install of 0.4.4 would have overwritten the "correct" kernel modules

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Perdignus:

mch

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rhacer:

so are there any rules of thumb for what I should plan on spending on building a single tuner MythTV box?

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Perdignus:

mchou: I'm about to finish a compile on 2.6.16.1, maybe I should install that then try a reinstall?

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mchou:

rhacer: yeah, plan on more tuners :)

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Anduin:

rhacer: More than you'd think.

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mchou:

Perdignus: yeah, that's probably work

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mchou:

that'd*

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Perdignus:

mchou: I'll give that a go, thanks for your help

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Achew22:

would someone be willing to help me with mythweb

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rhacer:

mchou: I don't know. I don't get enough cable tv I don't usually find myself needing to tape more than one thing.

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mchou:

rhacer: what's this one thing?

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rhacer:

Anduin: I'm guessing I could buy something far more cheaply

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mchou:

ok, I'm confused. Is there a way to make all recordings default to "High Quality" ?

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mchou:

it seems myth defaults to "default", but I cant find where to change that behavior.....

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rhacer:

mchou, not one thing, just one thing at once.

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rhacer:

Ooooh wait! if I want to tape one thing and do the realtime tv stuff (pause, replay, etc.) I'll need two tuners won't I?

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mchou:

rhacer: what's the beefiest proc you have right now?

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rhacer:

heh.

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rhacer:

I don't have much PC equipment in my house.

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rhacer:

I'm a Mac guy

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mchou:

rhacer: I would not recommend myth if you want to watch livetv :)

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Achew22:

EEW!

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rhacer:

my "server" is an AMD 800mhz.

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rhacer:

running Gentoo.

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rhacer:

so it'll be ALL new HW if I undertake this.

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mchou:

rhacer: how many pci slots in the server?

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mchou:

free

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rhacer:

I have no idea.

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mchou:

lol

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rhacer:

but it won't be my MythTV box.

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mchou:

go find out

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rhacer:

it's huge and noisy and a complete beast.

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mchou:

what mission critical on the server?

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mchou:

so? put it in a closet

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rhacer:

my mail server

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rhacer:

how do you put something in a closet and still feed your TV?

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mchou:

simple

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Achew22:

you get a via board and plug it into the tv

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mchou:

use the server as mythback end only and use the mac as frontend to feed tv

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mchou:

mythbackend*

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rhacer:

now that's an interesting idea.

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rhacer:

running over cat5?

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mchou:

yup

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rhacer:

can it run over 802.11g?

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rhacer:

or is that not enough bandwidth?

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Achew22:

there is enough

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mchou:

well, I wouldnt recomment wireless at all. but in theory g is sufficient

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Achew22:

easy

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Achew22:

I run mythfrontend on a ibook

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rhacer:

Ooooh cool, that'll be nice and quiet!

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Achew22:

I can get it over b if I'm close to the router

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mchou:

hell no

[02:25:56]

mchou:

b sux balls

[02:26:26]

mchou:

turn on the microwave and no more tv :)

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Achew22:

dude mchou — thats all you can get in the series of ibooks I got

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mchou:

Achew22: huh?? why? get a usb 802.11g adapter

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Achew22:

i got == I inherited

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Achew22:

I have a g hub

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Achew22:

i'm not going to waste batery to put in an adapter if b works

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mchou:

lol

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corpix:

btw ibooks suck i rma'd 5 of them ;)

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mchou:

so you depress you g hub to become a b hub? lol

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mchou:

your*

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Achew22:

corpix I got it for free from my sister

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Achew22:

thats not a bad deal

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corpix:

Achew22, if it works, ok, alot of them have bios issues

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Achew22:

keyboard sometimes freaks out

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Achew22:

but its out of warentee

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Achew22:

how do you spell that

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mchou:

rhacer: anyway, you dont need a new box. get a HW encoder card and be done with it. $60

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corpix:

so dont updatet the bios (seriously)

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corpix:

-t

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Achew22:

I wont

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rhacer:

mchou

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rhacer:

that's interesting input.

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rhacer:

I think I need some HD space though.

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rhacer:

only got 3Gb free!

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mchou:

rhacer: only thing I'd be concerned about is enough cpu for commercial flagging

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mchou:

rhacer: ok, another $70 for 300GB HDD :)

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Achew22:

lol

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mchou:

rhacer: I use a 850Mhz as my backend

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Achew22:

make another box and setup raid and stuffs then nfs the files

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mchou:

rhacer: commercial falgging on it actually works pretty quick

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rhacer:

how does commercial flagging work?

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mchou:

Achew22: why?? he already runs a server

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mchou:

there is no need for another box

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Achew22:

if you fill all your ide/scsi/sata drives (like I did) then it was a quick fix

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mchou:

fuck that

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mchou:

buy another ide/sata card

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mchou:

$25

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rhacer:

so mchou, why do you say it's not good for watching live tv?

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Achew22:

mchou your a very negative person by the way... and all pci cards were full with tuners

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mchou:

cause myth is less than ideal for watching tv

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mchou:

Achew22: lol

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mchou:

I'm a sensible person who happens to be negative on stupid ass shit

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Achew22:

I don't htink they make any agp scsi/ide/sata cards

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rhacer:

so if you want to watch live tv, what do you do?

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mchou:

rhacer: I turn on the TV :)

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rhacer:

but you can't replay or pause!

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dtm:

the desire to watch live tv is the real problem

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rhacer:

and isn't that part of the appeal of a dvr?

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dtm:

you can't replay or pause live tv, ever. then it wouldn't be live.

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mchou:

rhacer: no. a dvr means you never watch livetv again

[02:37:33]

rhacer:

well I want to watch live tv about 22 minutes after an hour long show starts.

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Achew22:

I watch at .9x and go about 3 min after it starts

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Anduin:

Wait until it is done and watch it all at 1.8x

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Achew22:

Anduin have you ever done that? its so funny to watch who'se line

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Anduin:

Achew22: I watch almost everything at 1.8x 1.85 for news shows.

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rhacer:

that's like double speed?

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Anduin:

Not yet double.

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Anduin:

double is too fast, what are you crazy?

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** rhacer chuckles **

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rhacer:

1.8x is ALMOST 2.0x

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Anduin:

I'm mostly certain time-stretch causes brain damage.

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SlicerDicer:

hey xris where would I post to ask a simple request for mythtv?

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SlicerDicer:

I am just wanting to ask that mtd remove its temporary files once job is complete as it bloats up my /tmp and I have to manually remove it constantly

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mchou:

SlicerDicer-: man dont be ridiculous. that's what cron is for

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SlicerDicer:

mchou: cron could run it while in the middle of using it? derr?

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mchou:

find /tmp -atime

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mchou:

SlicerDicer: huh??

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mchou:

middle of using what?

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SlicerDicer:

well cron runs at times of day right?

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mchou:

that what -atime is fo

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mchou:

for*

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mchou:

delete shit that's older than 1 day

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SlicerDicer:

mchou: well that wont work either as my /tmp is about 8gb it fills up fast I have to manually dump it several times a day typically from doing transcoding

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mchou:

SlicerDicer: lol

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SlicerDicer:

I do alot of transcoding :)

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Achew22:

does anyone have any experience with winbackup?

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rhacer:

well then do the same thing, just older than six hours or something.

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SlicerDicer:

if I would have known this was going to be a issue I would have allocated more to my /tmp

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mchou:

so?? dump tmp more often then. anything older than 3–6 hrs.

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SlicerDicer:

mchou: sounds good

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SlicerDicer:

I will look into it

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SlicerDicer:

thanks

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rhacer:

plus if an app has a file in use, and another deletes it, the file won't disappear until the app closes the file.

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mchou:

rhacer: exactly

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Anduin:

SlicerDicer – I'll look in to it.

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rhacer:

as long as there's a file handle the file will still be there.

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SlicerDicer:

ok

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rhacer:

now it is possible you have an app that opens and closes it's file handles in which case you WOULD have a problem.

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: "requests" go on the wiki... or to any devs that you're on really good terms with. (which only works for me if it's mythweb-related)

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Plex:

this may be a bad idea, even posing this question, but here goes...: I need to get a PVR working tonight and haven't been able to get MythTV working at all on this system. Does anyone recommend a win xp solution until I have the time to really get this going?

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Anduin:

Plex: Snapstream, or MCE

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kury-:

when I run mythtv-setup, how do I make my channles show up as 2-cbs, 3-nbc 5-mtv... etc.. instead of just 2 channle 2?

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Plex:

Anduin: thanks. Any of the free ones any good, like MediaPortal?

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Anduin:

Plex: Haven't tried them, sorry.

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phar0e:

On certain channels I get some ... I don't know what to call it, overscan maybe? maybe 1–2% of the top screen has some noise in it, is there an easy way to get rid of that?

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Achew22:

plex you still here?

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Plex:

yes

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Achew22:

what have you tried

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Plex:

I'm using the snapstream demo now – I haven't tried any others...

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Achew22:

is it working for you?

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Plex:

snapstream is, yes

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omry:

I built mythtv with directfb, but when I run mythfrontend its still trying to connect to an X server, any idea how I run the frontend without an X server?

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kury-:

when I start mythfront end I get "Could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct?" how do I fix this?

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kury-:

omry: I'm pretty sure you can't... and that you have to run it through an xserver

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omry:

kury-, so what's the directfb option supposed to be?

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kury-:

just a sec..

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SlicerDicer-:

hey xris have you seen any hard plastic kiddie pools around? I dont know where the hell I would locate something like that

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SlicerDicer-:

I dont go to to seattle area much but I dont seem to find anything but that stupid inflatable shit out here and my dog would puncture that :/

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SlicerDicer-:

random I know sorry guys

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SlicerDicer-:

kury-: that means your backend is not starting more than likely if you use a /etc/init.d/mythbackend to start it do a /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop if it says its not running do a /etc/init.d/mythbackend zap then run mythbackend command manually and find out whats crashing it

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SlicerDicer-:

just a idea

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: try a sporting goods store like GI Joe's

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SlicerDicer-:

good idea

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kury-:

SlicerDicer, naa.. its acutualy running.. and the frontend and backend are all on this same machine..

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SlicerDicer-:

hmm

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xris:

other than that, no clue.. nothing dog-sized, anyway.

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SlicerDicer-:

hehe aye

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kury-:

omry: I don't know... that makes since that thats what directfb would do... but I'v never heard of such a thing..

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Szii:

Heyas.

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Dorao:

I'm having issues setting up lirc

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Szii:

New user here. Video's fine (cpu is high) but getting messages about my soundcard buffer being full.

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Szii:

Soundcard's decent, Audigy2. No stuttering in the video, but the mythfronend console is spewing overflow messages. Read all the docs, pci timing, et al, no luck.

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Dorao:

hmm

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Szii:

Anyone have a thought where to check next?

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Szii:

Audio is fine in other apps, playing DVDs, etc.

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marcus2:

hm

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marcus2:

why did i think there was some way to adjust audio sync while i'm watching a recording?

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Szii:

LiveTV here.

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Szii:

No one has any ideas about the soundcard buffering then, or where to start looking?

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Dorao:

sorry

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Dorao:

mine works fine

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Szii:

np, just hoping. :)

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Dorao:

so I never looked into it

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Szii:

nods

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polpak:

So I'm looking for some comparisons.. in looking at the Hauppauge 150, 250, and 500's .. I understand that the 150 and 250's are better in terms of driver compatibility, while the 500 has the obvious advantage of 2 tuners w/o needing more than 1 PCI slot. I've also heard though that the 250 has better quality.. Anyway. any corrections or advice?

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Dorao:

how can you tell if lircd is receiving something from the remote?

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Bangers:

I have an old PC lying around, P3 600Mhz, 512Mb memory

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Bangers:

is this fast enough for a MythTV frontend?

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Bangers:

to play all my divx/xvid movies that reside on my Windows XP Workstation across my network

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Szii:

Bangers: probably

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Szii:

Decoding is cheap...relatively.

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Szii:

It's the encoding which is the killer.

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rjune:

Bangers: only to record

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Szii:

You'd be pushing it...might be okay with a hardward MPEG2 encoder.

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polpak:

encoding being playback?

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rjune:

Bangers: where were you getting mythtv from though?

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Szii:

Playback = decoding.

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rjune:

Bangers: gah, only to play, not record

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rjune:

that'll take about 8 or 9 hours to encode a dvd. not that I have that very setup as a frontend

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polpak:

Szii, ah.. see my question above about the Hauppauge cards.. Those have built in encoders w/ HW support so my understanding is they'd require very little for CPU

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Szii:

It's an MPEG2 encoded file. Lots of people play .mpg files in Windows with less than a P3–600. :)

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Szii:

Not all Hauppage have MPEG -DECODERS-, only the Pvr350

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rjune:

Szii: depends on the resolution. hi-res stuff can beat on the proc

[05:13:45]

Szii:

The others, 250 and 150 have MPEG encoders but not HW decoders.

[05:13:48]

phar0e:

HELP, what should I order from taco bell?

[05:13:55]

rjune:

phar0e: shit.

[05:14:00]

rjune:

that's all they server. ;-)

[05:14:11]

Szii:

2 tacos, one steak quesadilla and a large Mtn. Dew.

[05:14:39]

polpak:

Szii, but the encoders are all that's needed for recording

[05:14:50]

Szii:

He's talking about a playback box thoguh.

[05:15:20]

polpak:

Szii, oh.. I'm needing an all in one solution

[05:15:27]

phar0e:

a P600MHz couldn't playback a HDTV mpeg stream very easily

[05:15:42]

Criggie:

my frontend is a celeron 500 with i810 chipset... not exactly stunning hardware. Works fine except for accelerated playback... tends to stutter regularly.

[05:15:58]

Criggie:

phar0e: yeah – HD is a can of worms

[05:16:18]

phar0e:

HD is as big as when color TV came out, everyone needs to upgrade immediately

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Szii:

laugh

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Criggie:

phar0e: here in NZ there is one test HD stream, in auckland only, and its showing crap.

[05:16:49]

phar0e:

lol

[05:16:51]

Criggie:

phar0e: so spending money now is an utter waste

[05:17:00]

Criggie:

OOOO LOOK AT THIS HIGH DEF TEST SIGNAL!

[05:17:01]

phar0e:

I've been to auckland intl. airport before

[05:17:08]

Criggie:

FJEAR MY TEE VEE SKILLZ

[05:17:20]

monkeypet:

Hi can someone try my torrent and just tell me if it starts downloading: http://yoeu.net/~fa/xebian.tar.bz2.torrent

[05:17:23]

Criggie:

bah – I have four channels of FTA TV and thats heaps

[05:18:41]

Szii:

ARrrgh.... 2006-04–02 14:20:28.427 Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!

[05:19:06]

phar0e:

mythtv is fun

[05:19:13]

Szii:

.. not.

[05:19:15]

Szii:

:P

[05:19:23]

phar0e:

good thing SlicerDicer- isn't here

[05:19:40]

Szii:

I've been using linux since 1993.... state of it just gets worse and worse. =/

[05:19:56]

Szii:

Mostly because in the "old days" you couldn't do anything to start with.

[05:19:56]

phar0e:

why is that?

[05:20:02]

phar0e:

yeah haha

[05:20:11]

MooglyGuy:

Yeah, Szii, things are so much worse now, being able to do things.

[05:20:12]

MooglyGuy:

Wait, what?

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Szii:

Now there's a lot of stuff, but no global QA/QC so shit's all over the playce. :P

[05:20:23]

Szii:

and I cannot type tonight

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Szii:

"Place" *sigh*

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WAR_CH|LD:

I am having lots of trouble with myth and hte sql database

[05:20:57]

MooglyGuy:

I don't necessarily disagree, I just disagree that it's a Linux-only thing. You find a lack of QA/QC with anything involving shareware and freeware.

[05:20:57]

rjune:

uhm, and it's different in the windows world whY?

[05:20:58]

WAR_CH|LD:

tables corrupting, etc.

[05:21:08]

rjune:

it's not even just shareware

[05:21:12]

Szii:

Tables corrupting = bad

[05:21:21]

MooglyGuy:

And, as the Elder Scrolls series has proven, even with payware. :P

[05:21:24]

Szii:

Using ISAM tables, or BDB?

[05:21:26]

rjune:

plenty of commercial software is like that. how many games do you buy and have work out of the box

[05:21:27]

WAR_CH|LD:

i've jsut done a repair, but I need to ask would it be benefical to convert the tables from MyISAM to InnoDB

[05:21:30]

WAR_CH|LD:

table types

[05:21:33]

Szii:

hahahaha, Oblivion = crashhog

[05:21:42]

Szii:

No, stay with MyISAM.

[05:21:49]

Szii:

It's not a table "type" problem, per se.

[05:22:05]

MooglyGuy:

Actually, I haven't had Oblivion crash on me yet, but that's just because I use the 360 version. However, Bethesda need a cockpunch for leaving disk caching turned on in the commercial release of the game.

[05:22:15]

rhacer:

ISAM is fast. InnoDB claims to be ACID.

[05:22:29]

WAR_CH|LD:

well, it stuffed up all my recordings on the weekend

[05:22:32]

rhacer:

but I can't imagine needing InnoDB for a DVR.

[05:22:37]

MooglyGuy:

I mean, it has the potential to become so utterly fragmented that menus wind up taking 60+ seconds just to come up.

[05:22:47]

polpak:

So here's what I'm looking for. I need an all in one solution.. I'm thinking of using a Hauppauge card (250, 150, or 500) or two for recording, an nvidia card for the tv out.. Running on a Intel P3 750 with 512 MB or so of ram.. Will this work? And which Hauppauge(s) would you recommend?

[05:22:54]

Szii:

I've run MyISAM pretty hard though production boxes and never seen a corruption.

[05:22:57]

WAR_CH|LD:

so MyISAM is the way to go?

[05:23:06]

Szii:

Of course, we don't shut 'em down and they're on UPS and what not

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MooglyGuy:

I'd say a good rule of thumb is, "If you have to put in a workaround where holding a button on the controller while starting the game will clear the disk cache, you probably should leave that feature out".

[05:23:12]

MooglyGuy:

But anyway. Bed for me.

[05:23:34]

Szii:

I would stay with MyISAM. Check your disk controller's firmware and drivers.

[05:23:43]

Bangers:

rjune: yes only do decode. to decode a divx/xvid file across a network, is a 600Mhz p3/512Mb enough?

[05:23:48]

Szii:

And run hard disk utilities...you may have a hardware prob.

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rjune:

Bangers: for most stuff it should be ok, but as noted, HDTV will beat it up pretty bad

[05:24:30]

rjune:

I used the hardframedrop with mplayer for that reason

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WAR_CH|LD:

yeah, Szii i've had that thought too

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rjune:

at least I did when I was using the P3

[05:24:49]

WAR_CH|LD:

dosen't anyone here use logrotate to rotate eht myth logs, and have any problems with it?

[05:25:03]

WAR_CH|LD:

I get the impression when hte logs rotation the backend freezes and then does't work anymore

[05:25:08]

Szii:

Havne't used it with MythTV, but been using logrotate for years.

[05:25:24]

Szii:

Probably because MythTV has the file open

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WAR_CH|LD:

yeah, thats what i thought.

[05:25:32]

Szii:

Then you rotate it out from underneath it

[05:25:38]

Szii:

And MythTV loses the inode.

[05:25:43]

Szii:

and doens't recover.

[05:25:53]

WAR_CH|LD:

exactly, how do I solve it? just dont rotate?

[05:26:11]

Szii:

Or shut down MythTV before the rotation.

[05:26:16]

Szii:

Cron job it.

[05:26:28]

Szii:

Or patch it.

[05:26:33]

Szii:

It would be a trivial fix.

[05:26:40]

polpak:

....

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WAR_CH|LD:

yeah, a bit beyond my skills thou I think

[05:26:46]

WAR_CH|LD:

I unno

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Szii:

depends on your coding skills.

[05:27:25]

Szii:

:)

[05:27:27]

WAR_CH|LD:

I have none. :)

[05:27:31]

polpak:

if anyone could look at my questions above and give me some kind of answer.. that'd be great =)

[05:28:08]

WAR_CH|LD:

firstly, what would be the best way to terminate he backend, just "kill mythbackend" or soemthing more elegant?

[05:28:10]

Szii:

I would advise that you get teh 150s

[05:28:30]

Szii:

Because the 150 is the newer 250s, hardware ENcoding, but no hardware decoding.

[05:28:31]

WAR_CH|LD:

i'm using 500's polpak, the ivtv drivers are good

[05:28:48]

Szii:

I've heard of some quality issues with the 500s, but not tried them myself.

[05:28:52]

WAR_CH|LD:

500's are just 2x150's on one board

[05:29:14]

Szii:

They share components, and you're stacking components (like RF tuners) pretty close together.

[05:29:27]

Szii:

I have a pair of 150s in my box...standalone.

[05:29:45]

Szii:

Works fine, and if I blow one out...at least I can use the second one. :P

[05:30:08]

dtm:

phar0e: it's funny you say that coz i occasionally watched black/white for tv and video games as recently as 20–24 years ago

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Szii:

The 150s are "newer 250s" so you're really up against "150 vs 500"

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polpak:

Szii, also, did my specs (750 P3) sound like it'd work if I had a Nvidia card for the tvout?

[05:30:34]

dtm:

phar0e: color was a luxury for Atari 2600

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mchou:

polpak: work for what?

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phar0e:

dtm: that's why everyone needs HDTV

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dtm:

oic

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Szii:

If you have a non-HD stream, and a 150, then probably.

[05:30:54]

dtm:

phar0e: yes! for Atari 2600!!

[05:31:07]

dtm:

phar0e: i play atari 2600 games on my buddy's xbox

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phar0e:

no, no games allowed, only educational TV programs

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Szii:

The encoding is the killer, and if you offload that to the hardware, you should do okay.

[05:31:20]

polpak:

mchou, I need an all in one, non HD..

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mchou:

750 is cutting it close

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mchou:

even for decode

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mchou:

and even with xvmc

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Szii:

...people watch mpg files all the time with less hardware under Windows Media Player.

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mchou:

lol

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Szii:

It would depend on his stream.

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polpak:

Szii, how do you mean "stream" ?

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mchou:

except they arent doing sdtv res in windows media player

[05:32:42]

Szii:

He goes 1080i, yeah, it's a problem. :P

[05:33:04]

phar0e:

people play 120x80 .asf files in windows media player

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mchou:

phar0e: exactly :)

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mchou:

decoding a postage stamp doesnt take much cpu

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polpak:

mchou, I've seen some reviews of other people doing it with as low as a P3 600

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Szii:

Gotta run. See ya.

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polpak:

mchou, without any complaints

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mchou:

polpak: lol

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mchou:

P3 600 was hardly able to decode dvd without skipping and serious panning issues

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mchou:

in windows

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mchou:

no complaints != optimal

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mchou:

and I generally advocate using low end stuff wherever possible

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mchou:

go to a surplus store/ebay and upgrade to a higher socket compatible proc

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mchou:

on a P3 700 that should be easy

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mchou:

see plenty of 900Mhz-1Ghz P3s at surplus these days

[05:38:32]

mchou:

cost like ~$15

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polpak:

ok, well, I've already got the 750, so I'll try that first.

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Dorao:

wtf...

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polpak:

otherwise I'll take what you said under advisement

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polpak:

thx again

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lngndvs:

Have the Plextor TV402U working with Mythtv, sortof. I get no sound, and am unsure about using /dev/dsp1 and /dev/mixer1? Howto? Is this the place to ask

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lngndvs:

Myth was working for me and I seem to have bodged it up. Reinstalled mysql, and it worked as user, but now was corrupt for root. After quitting user's session, that session doesn't work.

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phar0e:

what is corrupt?

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lngndvs:

The picture, for one thing: I got just screens with spots of color here and there.

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WAR_CH|LD:

anyone know sed

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WAR_CH|LD:

how do I make it find the 1st word o the 2nd line?

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Gogga:

hi

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zulaab:

is there a better room for mythweb questions?

[06:29:34]

Gogga:

this is your better chance in here.

[06:30:06]

zulaab:

trying to figure out a way to get mythweb to recalculate the length of a recording post cut/transcode

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Gogga:

i'm not the one to ask, i don't use mythweb as much.

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Anduin:

zulaab: That wouldn't be mythweb related.

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zulaab:

yeah – i figured it was database related – but i kinda hoped that it could be a simple mythwebhack

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eiggirC:

okay my wife fucked up and deleted a recording. I still have the .nuv file thought. How can I readd it to the database?

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Anduin:

eiggirC: There is the mythrebuilddatabase.pl (or close) in contrib

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eiggirC:

Anduin: cheers dude!

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Gogga:

i just install from the curren binary iso from knoppmyth's website, and it appears libiec61883 is compiled in, but when i got to a shell to test it it via test-mpeg2 , i get an error saying libiec61883.so (no such file or directory). i tried installing and formating three times in hopes it was an Install error. but it does not appear so.

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Gogga:

anybody else can run test-mpeg2 in the shell wihtout errors?

[06:35:45]

Gogga:

you should atleast get the help instructions (if you run it without any parameters)

[06:36:49]

Gogga:

well i've manually compiled libiec61883 before they packaged it mythtv, so it's not a matter if firewire works (i was able to get to work), i freshly formated my system hoping all will be good and now i can't even run test-mpeg2 to see if firewire is working .

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Gogga:

anybody else ran the current ISO install from knoppmyth ? if so can you atleast run test-mpeg2 in the shell to see if it (a) throws a error message, or (b) runs successfuly (without any parameters).

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Gogga:

nobody?

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phar0e:

goggaaaaaaa

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Gogga:

whats up

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phar0e:

just because myth is compiled with firewire SUPPORT, doesn't mean it includes the seperate libiec61883 package!

[07:02:04]

phar0e:

you need libeic and libraw package

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phar0e:

maybe even video1394 package, not sure

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Gogga:

ok

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Gogga:

for libiec and libraw, both i typed in apt-get update , apt-get intall libraw1394 , it says it's already the newest version for both

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Gogga:

seems like its packaged with the CD

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phar0e:

oh

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Gogga:

because I surely didn't install it =|

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Gogga:

let me try the other one

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Gogga:

video1394

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Gogga:

aee it says could'nt find the package. but i dont think that is not required.

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Bonkers:

how do I tell mythtv where QT is? setting QTDIR didn't seem to help, I have qt4 and qt3 installed and it keeps going for qt4

[07:17:03]

Bonkers:

I even did make distclean;./configure;make

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dtm:

Bonkers: well, that's how you do it.

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dtm:

Bonkers: where'd you set it

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dtm:

Bonkers: grep your top level src dir for QTDIR

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Bonkers:

Makefile: (cd "$(QTDIR)/src/tools/moc" && $(MAKE))

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Bonkers:

that's it

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Bonkers:

I think I had to put /usr/qt/3/bin at the front of the path also

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Bonkers:

yep, that worked

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dtm:

k

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eiggirC:

processed: 2480 of 58470 frames (4.24%), 1.06 fps

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eiggirC:

gah!

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Anduin:

eiggirC: Is that from the rebuild?

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eiggirC:

Anduin: no the rebuild worked perfectly thank you

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eiggirC:

I need more CPU :)

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EruditeHermit:

hey, does anyone have a audigy2 working with mythtv?

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EruditeHermit:

I am unable to configure the ALSA sound to work so that mythtv captures and replays the sound

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EruditeHermit:

can anyone help?

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Anduin:

EruditeHermit: ALSA for input as well?

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Anduin:

If so, no ALSA input last I checked, if not, search the ML.

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EruditeHermit:

Anduin: what do you mean by ALSA input?

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Anduin:

EruditeHermit: I mean some people use software encoding and use the line-in on their sound card.

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EruditeHermit:

yeah

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EruditeHermit:

thats what I am doing

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EruditeHermit:

but I can't figure out the settings

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EruditeHermit:

for ALSA

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EruditeHermit:

to capture from line in

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Gumby:

anyone ever seen this before.. "NVR: Ran out of free AUDIO buffers :-("

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EruditeHermit:

Anduin: I managed to figure it out

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EruditeHermit:

Anduin: but I get popping noises from the audio

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EruditeHermit:

Anduin: any ideas?

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Anduin:

EruditeHermit: Nope, you wound up using OSS for input right?

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Anduin:

Gumby: Never really used it, but if it works how it looks, maybe the encoder can't keep up.

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EruditeHermit:

Anduin: I use /dev/dsp, but my drivers are ALSA

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EruditeHermit:

using OSS emulation

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Gumby:

anyone here using 2.6.16x and have lirc compiled?

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simon_c:

Hi All. I've tracked down a bug in the mythtv configure file, when compilling on suse. What's the best way or reporting this ? Via the mailling list ?

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stuarta:

mailing list

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simon_c:

stuarta: Thanks.

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crash-x:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/8SQg5K94.html can someone tell me how to fix that error?

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crash-x:

DBSchemaVer is there and has the value 1132

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stuarta:

what did you attempt to do?

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crash-x:

i wanted to watch livetv, mythtv hanged and killed it

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crash-x:

now i get this error when i try to start it

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crash-x:

in the backendlog

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crash-x:

wrong

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crash-x:

frontend

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stuarta:

dome something to your db then, run mysqlcheck

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crash-x:

ok thanks

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crash-x:

nice it works

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crash-x:

thanks

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crash-x:

hmm

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crash-x:

nut livetv doesnt still work:

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crash-x:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/VYMR3D51.html

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stuarta:

I'd recheck your settings, something might still be corrupt after you db problem

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crash-x:

ok

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jabawok:

gday all.. quick question, is anybody having problems with mythfrontend hanging on seek? time stretching and pausing/unpausing works, but any skipping/jumping/fastforward/rewind is not working for me, since sometime around 0.19

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jabawok:

Setup is split backend/frontend, DVB tuner, gentoo all round.. happens on all my mythfrontends..

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Juski:

afternoon

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stuarta:

afternoon Juski

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Juski:

how's life in DVB developer land?

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moemoe:

hmpf here it's just midday

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d64:

so dvb developer land is in the gmt zone or so

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Juski:

d64: not quite

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jabawokC:

gday all.. quick question, is anybody having problems with mythfrontend hanging on seek? time stretching and pausing/unpausing works, but any skipping/jumping/fastforward/rewind is not working for me, since sometime around 0.19

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jabawokC:

Setup is split backend/frontend, DVB tuner, gentoo all round.. happens on all my mythfrontends..

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Juski:

not the whole story anyway

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Juski:

jabawokC: make sure all the frontends are using the same time source

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Juski:

also ensure the recordedmarkup table is not borked

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jabawokC:

hmm

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jabawokC:

that last one sounds more like it might be a prob...

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jabawokC:

pointers on how to check?

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Juski:

see the mythtv FM on how to maintain mythtv ;-)

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jabawokC:

had a few bad crashes (HD failures around about the time it stopped working.

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jabawokC:

cool thanks for the pointer... appreciated

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stuarta:

if you've had hdd crashed try a mysqlcheck as well

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jabawokC:

k

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jabawokC:

heh

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jabawokC:

mythconverg.recordedmarkup

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jabawokC:

warning : Table is marked as crashed

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jabawokC:

warning : 13 clients are using or haven't closed the table properly

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jabawokC:

error : Record at pos: 9439744 is not remove-marked

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jabawokC:

error : record delete-link-chain corrupted

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jabawokC:

error : Corrupt

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jabawokC:

awesome...

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jabawokC:

thanks guys

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Calroth:

ouch

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Juski:

that'd do it ;-)

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Juski:

time to go buy my lunchies :-P

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stuarta:

must be corrupt DB day....

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jabawokC:

mythconverg.recordedmarkup

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jabawokC:

warning : Number of rows changed from 196059 to 196088

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jabawokC:

status : OK

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jabawokC:

..

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jabawokC:

and working

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jabawokC:

cheers!

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Puh:

my 0.19-fixes has skipped a recording for some reason

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d64:

i had to re-enable EIT scans because the tv grab script ceased to work (due to site changes)

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Puh:

length of the recording says "B" and nothing more

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Puh:

but unlike 0.19-plain the 0.19-fixes didn't hang

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stuarta:

d64: coping okay with the EIT scans?

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d64:

the scan does fetch program info but now my mythbackend is again crashing 20 times a day

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d64:

:)

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stuarta:

d64: what version

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d64:

stuarta: gentoo ~x86 ebuild

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stuarta:

d64: what version does that translate to?

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stuarta:

is it 0.19.something?

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d64:

yes

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d64:

sorry, had to go somewhere

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d64:

it's 0.19-p9163

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stuarta:

like me, off to lunch, back in a hour...

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moemoe:

when starting the backend i alway get errors like "DVB#0 WARNING – Your frequency setting (9737367) is out of range. (min/max:950000/2150000)" and the frontend shows no tv..any ideas?

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Juski:

wrong unit used when you put the frequency in

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Juski:

either it says you put khz into the box & you need to put in Hz, or vice versa

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moemoe:

Juski: i created a channels.conf using scan

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haj:

can i define what command mythbackend runs when it does the transcoding?

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Juski:

moemoe – so does that mean you imported the channels.conf file?

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moemoe:

Juski: yes, right

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haj:

i'd like it to run transcode and commflag with schedtool.. :)

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moemoe:

I would have preferred only to import a list of transponders and let mythtv do the scan, but found no way to do it

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Juski:

haj: you can set myth to auto commflag & then transcode – but bear in mind that if the commflag marks are wrong you'll end up with bits missing from transcoded files

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Juski:

moemoe: dvb stuff is fairly broken in 0.19 – 0.19-fixes is better – and svn will work better still

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haj:

Juski: i know i know, atm it transcodes and then does commflag.. what i want to do is just to use batch-scheduling on those jobs to make sure they don't use anything but idle cpu-cycles.

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Juski:

haj: you can specify when jobs are run – between any times you like

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** Juski is sure that's mentioned in the mythtv FM **

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haj:

Juski: but i guess i can only change the command used to run the programs by editing the source..

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Juski:

haj: you could set up a user job to do what you want – then run that

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Juski:

again that's covered in the manual or the wiki

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haj:

perhaps.. i think i'll do a bit of reading :)

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moemoe:

mhh okay, i think i'll try to put a svn-checkout into some .debs and test it again

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Juski:

haj: setup of a user job is quite simple – you put the command you'd like to run as a user job in the user job #x box, then you can set myth up to run that job on a number of recordings quite simply... and you can set the time limits of when user jobs can run – as well as how much CPU they are entitled to

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haj:

Juski: all i want to do is to make mythtv run 'schedtool -B -e mythtranscode' instead of 'nice -n17 mythtranscode' as it does now ;)

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Juski:

haj: easy peasy – put that as a user job & select that to run instead of transcode when you choose which job to run

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Juski:

time to go :-)

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mchou:

haha!!

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Dibblah_:

Wooo hoo! I have my 'hardware' RAID back. For anyone else searching (since this channel is logged ;) RAID5 using hptmv uses 64k stripes by default, parity rotates backwards (3-2–1) starting from the last disk, and the 'checksum' byte from the RAID information block is calculable since if the drive number is all that is changing, it just decrements by one for each disk.

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Dibblah_:

Whew/

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Kelerion:

morning all

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stuarta:

Dibblah_: sounds like you've been busy

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lono:

Hey, is there a way to defer mythcommflag to run only at certain times?

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stuarta:

yes, it's all explained in the manual somewhere.

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DrBair:

uh oh, my wifi isn't showing up in lspci anymore. This can only end badly

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AngryElf:

./configure has lirc enabled by default, yes?

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stuarta:

d64: there's a patch for you to try

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stuarta:

d64: it's attached to ticket 1603

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marcus2:

man, upgrading to 0.19 was a mistake

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Dibblah_:

Note to self: RAID is not an alternative to backups ;)

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alex777:

what would be the easiest way to put info into the schedule for some foreign channels from my set top box ?

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alex777:

just insert them into the db straight ?

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fozi:

marcus2: why?

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marcus2:

fozi; the backend has crashed a couple of times, and i'm having lots of audio sync problems

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marcus2:

0.18.1 was rock solid for like 6mo

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DrBair:

anyone know if the mceusb2 transmitter is working with lirc?

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kormoc:

it 'works' sure

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kormoc:

but it seems to require two key presses to do anything

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Beirdo:

heya, kormoc

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DrBair:

kormoc: I see what you mean

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DrBair:

its strange, irw picks up all the punches but myth seems to miss most of them

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DrBair:

and 'OK' never works

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omry:

I built mythtv with directfb, but when I run mythfrontend its still trying to connect to an X server, any idea how I run the frontend without an X server?

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kormoc:

Beirdo, hihi!

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kormoc:

DrBair, I got all of them working, based off of the lirc's site config file

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kormoc:

DrBair, but the double key presses really kills the usefullness of it imho

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DrBair:

kormoc: I just update to 0.8.0 of lirc. It works flawlessly now

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xris:

doesn't the directfb version of myth just try to connect to x in a framebuffer?

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meushi:

grr, this is driving me mad... I can't get my nova-se2 to lock on a channel :(

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lcase:

wich version of myth yo trying?

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lcase:

meushi^

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meushi:

lcase: that's even pre-myth..; I can't even get szap to lock on a channel

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lcase:

ah i thought you tried 0.19

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AngryElf:

hey all, i can't get lirc working with myth

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lcase:

some nova card needs extended timeouts for tuning

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AngryElf:

irw is working fine now.......and i've got .lircrc in place.......but when i start mythfrontend i get nothing........there's nothing in the output about lirc like there usually is

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AngryElf:

any ideas?

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meushi:

lcase: that's the plan if I can get it to tune... upgrade from old 18.1 analog only to 19 analog(2x)+sat(2x)

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lcase:

angrelf you use irxevent or the the builtin lirc feature?

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AngryElf:

well i ./configure'd witht he default settings which has lirc enabled

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lcase:

meushi if i remember right there was also problems with nova-t card with the 0.19 release, but there was fixes in myth-svn

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lcase:

angryelf have you set the keys for myth? there are examples in the conrtib directory of myth

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stuarta:

evening Juski

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Juski:

evening stuarta

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xris:

AngryElf: but lirc with irw is intended to bypass the myth-specific lirc support

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AngryElf:

what does that mean?

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xris:

sorry, I'm not awake... mixing up irw and irxevent

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AngryElf:

right now irw is spitting out the buttons as they are in /etc/lircd.conf

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kormoc:

DrBair, ooh? what lirc config file did you use?

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kormoc:

DrBair, cause I'm using 0.8.0 and I still have that problem

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AngryElf:

and i've got ~/.mythtv/lircrc setup too

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AngryElf:

but i get nothing if i run irxevent then mythfrontend

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lcase:

if you compile it in you dont need irxevent

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lcase:

have you started lircd?

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AngryElf:

yes, it's running

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AngryElf:

irw works

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lcase:

it seems that you not haved mapped the keys correct in your .mythtv/lircd

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AngryElf:

.mythtv/lircrc....right?

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lcase:

.mythtv/lircrc eys

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lcase:

=> yes

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lcase:

something like this must be there

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lcase:

begin

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lcase:

prog = mythtv

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lcase:

button = OK

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lcase:

config = Return

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lcase:

end

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lcase:

and this for every button

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AngryElf:

yup

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AngryElf:

it's not reading from the file

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lcase:

where button is the button you have defined in your lircd.conf

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kormoc:

AngryElf, with that file, you won't use irxevent

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lcase:

not reading?

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kormoc:

it could be irxevent is keeping myth from reading from the lirc socket, perhaps?

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AngryElf:

irexevent isn't running

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lcase:

mfe restarted and looked at the log output?

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AngryElf:

mfe?

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lcase:

mythfrontend

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lcase:

in the frontend log and the lircd log there must be no errors

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lcase:

mfe is connecting to lircd directly and get the keypresses

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AngryElf:

there's no errors in the frontend log

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AngryElf:

where's the lircd log?

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lcase:

i think its logged per syslog

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lcase:

.

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lcase:

in /var/log/syslog

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lcase:

or /var/log/messages

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AngryElf:

nothing in either of them

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Perdignus:

Anyone familiar with the PVR-500/VIA combo that caused reboots when the card is played?

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Beirdo:

people still use VIA shite?

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Perdignus:

Unfortunately yes

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AngryElf:

why would i get irw: permission denied?

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AngryElf:

ls

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AngryElf:

hah

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Juski:

Beirdo: no problems with Via shite here ;-)

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Juski:

though I don't use very low-cost OEM crap either. I think a lot of Via's bad press comes from the cheaper end of the market

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kormoc:

I didn't know via had any high end stuff

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Ruis:

OK. Using all the docs, I think I've compiled a good list of parts for my MythTV box. Can I get your guys' opinions? Anyone know of any reason why this wouldn't work? https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist . . . mber=1991460

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Beirdo:

fucking Winblows

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Juski:

Ruis: yeah – user errors

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Beirdo:

I wanna capture traffic, dammit!

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kormoc:

Ruis, you might want to go with a 6200 or a 5200 rather then the mx4000

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Beirdo:

let me capture my own damned traffic! can't even see the interface in ethereal

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kormoc:

Ruis, you'll get better XvMC support and the ability to do hdtv if you want in the future

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simcop2387:

i need more things to record/watch i've seen all of startrek now

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kormoc:

Ruis, the msi 6200 low profile is passive (fanless) and quite nice at $55 or so

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Ruis:

XvMC is a term I haven't heard before.. What's that?

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kormoc:

It's Hardware mpeg2 decoding, so rather then the cpu decode the video, the video card can

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simcop2387:

X Video Motion Compensation ( or something like that) it gets used to do hardware Mpeg/codec decoding

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Perdignus:

I'm struggling with a VIA chipset on a Soyo Mobo (SY-KT333 DRAGON Plus) and a PVR-500 that reboots when played

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** Beirdo gives his laptop at work the finger **

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simcop2387:

Beirdo: heh

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Beirdo:

it can't find Winamp now either?!

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Beirdo:

fuck, I hate Windoes

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simcop2387:

Beirdo: i feel for you, i only plan on reinstalling windows when spore comes out (or DNF whichever happens first)

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simcop2387:

or Fallout3

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Beirdo:

so I'm reinstalling winamp on top of itself so the damn OS can see it again

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Beirdo:

I hate Windows!

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** stuarta hates windows **

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Ruis:

kormoc, i swapped out the video card. is the one on that list now the correct one you were thinking of?

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kormoc:

Ruis, aye, that's the one I have that works quite well

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Ruis:

sweet. anything else you would change?

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kormoc:

nopers

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Ruis:

alright. thanks for the input.

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Juski:

Soyo? they're well up there with the likes of PC Chips etc aren't they, Perdingus?

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kormoc:

Soyo used to have good boards in the past

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Juski:

yeh well PC Chips have churned out one or two good ones in the past too, apparently

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Juski:

my point is – so many people diss manufacturers for whatever reason – there's too much posturing to see reason half the time

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kormoc:

Soyo is like DFI, started out good, but turned sour soon enough

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** kormoc shrugs **

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Juski:

can't remember ever seeing a DFI board over here

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kormoc:

http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_lput . . . &SITE=US

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Juski:

I mean in UK retailers...

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kormoc:

fair nuff

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Juski:

apart from one board which had badcaps – never had any issues with Gigabyte ones (touch wood)

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Juski:

I think it's fair to say that some makers sail too close to the wind with their products – either interpreting specs too loosely or just plan old rushing to get stuff out

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kormoc:

yeah

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Juski:

just about everyone is guilty of the latter

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kormoc:

MSI was great for the most part. The only issues I've had with them was that they only supported certain memory, and only certain admounts. so they supported 1 gb of corsair value select, but not two gigs.

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kormoc:

sucked to be me with a gig of extra ram laying around

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Juski:

ouch!

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Juski:

we've had issues at work with some Sony DVD writers – so one manager looked up the model number on Google & guess what... they have a really bad reputation! ten or so posters on some techy forum dissed them!!! :-O

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kormoc:

Ooh? My sony dvdrws and cdrws are great

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kormoc:

they're just rebranded liteons that tend to be slightly cheaper

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Juski:

I pointed out to said manager that I never, & don't know of anybody who's ever posted to an online forum extolling the virtues of a great product they've just bought ;-)

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kormoc:

hehe, indeed, it's rather rare

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Juski:

did anyone see that article about Mythtv in LinuxFormat this month? I heard it got 7/10. Would've been more if the reviewers had been hit with a clue-bat no doubt

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Beirdo:

fuckin windows

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Beirdo:

buggers

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Beirdo:

anyways, time to ignore the shittiness that is WinXP and do more work

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Juski:

ignoring it won't make it go away ;-)

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Beirdo:

but it might make the work get done

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haj:

would it be a problem setting the RingBuffer to like.. 100megs or so?

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Juski:

HDTV ringbuffer I take it you mean...

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haj:

hm.. oh, it's only for HDTV?

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haj:

hum..

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** haj is confused, i thought it was the RingBuffer for LiveTV pauses? :) **

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Juski:

ringbuffer was taken away in 0.19

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haj:

then timebar just shows whats left of the recording?

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Juski:

I guess so

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Juski:

recordings of livetv now happen on a per-show basis

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haj:

ok.

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haj:

yeb.. i noticed that it just freezes up when the show is finished here..

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haj:

thats a bit silly, i think.. but other than that it seems to work just fine.

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RaYmAn-Bx:

mine just seem to move on to the next show when the show is finished..with a new timebar

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haj:

weird.. do you use .19 ?

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haj:

perhaps my setup is just silly :)

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RaYmAn-Bx:

.19-fixes

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drdaz_:

RaYmAn-Bx: got selector working on my box finally :D

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RaYmAn-Bx:

drdaz_: oh, cool. Working well? Is it getting tv guide data from there as well?

[19:44:00]

RaYmAn-Bx:

drdaz_: "finally" sounds like it was a whole lot of work?

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drdaz_:

RaYmAn-Bx, nah... I still scrape from TDCs website... its the same data and it covers a longer period

[19:44:50]

drdaz_:

and yes it was a lot of work... the CAM I bought off ebay was duff

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drdaz_:

figuring that out was hard

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drdaz_:

also the drivers for my DVB card are a little experimental atm

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RaYmAn-Bx:

drdaz_: you use the xmltvdk tvdanmark grabber? All the times seems to be somewhat wrong for me.

[19:45:22]

RaYmAn-Bx:

sucky :/

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haj:

RaYmAn-Bx: -fixes ?

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drdaz_:

that, coupled with the need to manually patch myth to work with my card... it was a bit of a pain

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haj:

there seems to be lot of danes here? :)

[19:46:15]

RaYmAn-Bx:

haj: semi-development version available through svn

[19:46:24]

haj:

RaYmAn-Bx: ok

[19:46:37]

RaYmAn-Bx:

haj: well, we are at least 3 danes here ;)

[19:46:43]

drdaz_:

but yeah I use the tdc scraper off the yahoo group

[19:46:44]

haj:

yeb :)

[19:46:53]

** haj uses the tdc-one as well.. :) **

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drdaz_:

:)

[19:47:08]

drdaz_:

the tv2 one stopped working for me very suddenly

[19:47:12]

haj:

its nice, when you have tdc cable... :)

[19:47:18]

RaYmAn-Bx:

the start/stop times work fine for you or?

[19:47:28]

drdaz_:

heh my analog isnt thru TDC :p

[19:47:33]

drdaz_:

yeah they do

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haj:

then the 'shared' channels work with the guide as well.

[19:47:47]

RaYmAn-Bx:

mine seem to be slightly off

[19:47:58]

drdaz_:

haj: 'shared'?

[19:48:02]

RaYmAn-Bx:

i.e. I get a bunch of adverts in the beginning and lack the ending of the programs

[19:48:08]

drdaz_:

damn

[19:48:16]

drdaz_:

I get that with some channels

[19:48:21]

haj:

RaYmAn-Bx: they seem to work.. but i did set it up to start recording a bit before and continue a bit after :)

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drdaz_:

but rarely so bad that I miss any of the program

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RaYmAn-Bx:

haj: yeah, I've been planning to do that :P

[19:48:58]

RaYmAn-Bx:

the biggest problem I'm having is lack of sound on some recordings..but I still don't know whether to blame ivtv or mythtv for that

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haj:

drdaz_: like hallmark that shares the channel with foxtv

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haj:

not that i watch that channel much :)

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drdaz_:

oh!

[19:49:24]

drdaz_:

that 'works'?

[19:49:36]

drdaz_:

as in you get the right data in those channels?

[19:49:48]

haj:

drdaz_: yeb.

[19:49:50]

drdaz_:

hmm

[19:50:10]

drdaz_:

actually I havent ever bothered to check whether mine do :p

[19:50:23]

drdaz_:

I find it more fun to mess with my box than actually watch TV on it

[19:50:25]

drdaz_:

sad really

[19:50:27]

RaYmAn-Bx:

heh

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haj:

:)

[19:51:05]

** haj did enough messing.. finding a Socket 939-motherboard that supported both AGP-cards and my PVR-500 was pretty hard ;) **

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drdaz_:

one thing that cheeses me off.. TV2 doesnt 'autodetect' 16:9 mode

[19:51:18]

drdaz_:

ALi!

[19:51:22]

drdaz_:

for teh win!

[19:51:23]

haj:

i'm on my 3rd board.. this one seems to work though :)

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haj:

drdaz_: i tried ALi.. it crashed :)

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kormoc:

haj, shouldn't have been that hard, just don't go with via :P

[19:51:37]

drdaz_:

heh

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RaYmAn-Bx:

I only had to go through two cards before I had one that worked

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haj:

drdaz_: it 'reset' when i tried using the PVR..

[19:52:05]

drdaz_:

I got myself an ASRock 939Dual Sata2

[19:52:07]

haj:

drdaz_: now i'm using a Nforce3 250gb based...

[19:52:11]

RaYmAn-Bx:

the PVR-500 seems to be notoriously bad with via chipsets (And others)

[19:52:12]

drdaz_:

AGP and PCI-E

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drdaz_:

all works well

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haj:

works pretty much ok, except for a minor hardware-monitoring bugs.

[19:52:48]

haj:

better go watch some tv with the girlfriend :)

[19:52:53]

drdaz_:

enjoy!

[19:52:54]

haj:

talk to you later.

[19:53:56]

drdaz_:

seriously tho... why in gods name does myth not automagically switch to 16:9 on TV2? It does it for other channels that broadcast in true 16:9

[19:54:14]

kormoc:

because it's not telling myth it's 16:9?

[19:54:19]

drdaz_:

TV2 ends up being all squashed up in the middle of the screen :(

[19:54:28]

drdaz_:

I'd guess thats the case

[19:54:40]

drdaz_:

but... then why in god's name isnt it doing that?

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drdaz_:

:D

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kormoc:

heh, likely cause they just don't care? :P

[19:55:22]

drdaz_:

I'd have thought they would

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drdaz_:

they are like... one of only 3 channels broadcasting in true digital over here

[19:56:08]

drdaz_:

if it's not working for me... it must not be working for all the folks with STBs...?

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RaYmAn-Bx:

drdaz_: have you checked whether it works with the box they provide?

[19:57:56]

drdaz_:

not really...

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drdaz_:

but that box blows

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drdaz_:

it didnt do it with the channels that work in myth

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drdaz_:

had to do everything with the TV's stretch functions

[20:00:47]

drdaz_:

I'd imagine I should be able to see in some logs how the streams identify themselves wrt aspect ratio and stuff dont u think?

[20:01:35]

drdaz_:

one thing about the digital streams tho... apart from being of a much higher quality than those generated by my PVR card... they are also alot smaller

[20:01:48]

drdaz_:

thats a very pleasant surprise

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Juski:

that's the advantage of letting professionals do the encoding

[20:02:34]

drdaz_:

:) yes

[20:03:10]

Juski:

they can optimise a lot of stuff too – so it looks better at lower bitrates (up to a point)

[20:03:29]

drdaz_:

yeah

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drdaz_:

I'm kinda hoping that I can evade their 50Kr/month surcharge by throwing their STB back at them

[20:04:21]

drdaz_:

I suspect it wont work tho

[20:04:27]

RaYmAn-Bx:

what's that for?

[20:04:44]

charmw:

Hey all... is there a .config file I can set the weather locale for? Using knoppmyth and the weather module won't let me edit or reset (m) the locale.

[20:04:45]

drdaz_:

the privilege of having a good picture

[20:04:49]

drdaz_:

:-|

[20:05:07]

RaYmAn-Bx:

I called them and asked if you could get selector without buying their stupid box..The woman I talked to could hardly understand what I meant, but finally said no (not sure I trust that though)

[20:05:12]

RaYmAn-Bx:

card fee or something?

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RaYmAn-Bx:

or is it better than standard selector digital or something?

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drdaz_:

they insisted to me that I have to use a box provided by them too

[20:05:48]

drdaz_:

I just ignored them

[20:05:51]

RaYmAn-Bx:

heh

[20:05:54]

RaYmAn-Bx:

they always do that

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Juski:

can you use the service with a DVB card?

[20:06:10]

RaYmAn-Bx:

not officially :P

[20:06:11]

drdaz_:

the card fee is 200/year

[20:06:14]

Juski:

legally, I mean?

[20:06:25]

RaYmAn-Bx:

hmm

[20:06:46]

drdaz_:

I've skimmed the rules... there's nothing forbidding it specifically

[20:06:52]

drdaz_:

afaict

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RaYmAn-Bx:

It might infringe on their terms tbh...But i'm not sure if they can enforce it unless it interferes with something

[20:07:08]

Juski:

what I mean is – it's all unencrypted, yeah?

[20:07:13]

drdaz_:

no

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charmw:

RaYmAn-Bx: They're all outsourced to who knows where overseas... man sometimes I'd rather spend an extra few bucks just to know the support I get will speak clear English.

[20:07:28]

Juski:

in that case you don't wanna be talking about it here

[20:08:01]

RaYmAn-Bx:

charmw: the woman I talked to was definitely danish..She just had no clue about anything

[20:08:17]

drdaz_:

I'm using a viaccess CAM to watch most of the channels

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Juski:

outsourcing customer support is a false economy – and some firms are learning the hard way :-)

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Juski:

drdaz_: so long as you're paying for it :-)

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drdaz_:

I am :)

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drdaz_:

thats why I cant imagine they have any problem with it

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drdaz_:

they can refuse support on it by all means

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RaYmAn-Bx:

I think they only care if your hw causes problems for them

[20:10:25]

RaYmAn-Bx:

you aren't really allowed to use third party ADSL hardware either, but people do it happily and it works

[20:10:38]

drdaz_:

the rules say they reserve the right to examine your setup... the only thing there is concern about is reprogramming CAMs and cards I believe

[20:10:55]

drdaz_:

3rd party adsl hardware?

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Juski:

yeh NTL didn't support routers at first – but now everyone's got em

[20:11:06]

RaYmAn-Bx:

drdaz_: yes, like ADSL modems or adsl routers..

[20:11:24]

drdaz_:

oh u mean ones they didnt supply themselves

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Juski: most providers here provide ADSL modems/routers for free (which you have to give back as well)

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RaYmAn-Bx:

drdaz_: exactly

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drdaz_:

again... you're allowed, they just wont support you. If you have problems... they are your problems, not theirs...

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RaYmAn-Bx:

yeah, as I said, they only really care if the hardware you use cause problems for other people

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drdaz_:

I expect thats why the support folks say that at selector HQ... they want to avoid using time on correcting issues they arent responsible for

[20:13:32]

drdaz_:

when I called them... I asked them if they used pairing

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thebrasse:

Hello! Can someone tell me what my .lircrc files needs to look like in order to use MythTV's native lirc support (without irxevent)?

[20:13:59]

thebrasse:

Is there some documentation on .lircrc somewhere?

[20:14:01]

RaYmAn-Bx:

well, there's no reason to require that you buy one to get it, since you _buy_ it and hence keep the box..so if you have it, then stop having it and resubscribe you shouldn't really need to buy another box :P

[20:14:19]

RaYmAn-Bx:

thebrasse: .mythtv/lircrc is the correct file for mythtvs lirc support

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drdaz_:

and after explaining what that was the chick told me that they didnt lock smartcards to STBs but that I could only use the card with an approved box

[20:15:18]

RaYmAn-Bx:

which again doesn't seem to be true :P

[20:15:40]

drdaz_:

actually.. that reminds me.. I use cybercity's IP phone solution... if u call a TDC line with it you get kicked!

[20:15:57]

drdaz_:

from the queue I mean.. not physically

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drdaz_:

:p

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RaYmAn-Bx:

what do you mean? (not that I have a tdc line anyways)

[20:16:39]

drdaz_:

not sure if its CC stopping me from sleeping with the enemy or TDC not wanting to have anything to do with CC customers..

[20:16:44]

corpix:

thebrasse, here is mine to give you an example (its huge!): http://pastebin.com/638496

[20:16:50]

drdaz_:

oh I mean if I call a support line from my CC line

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drdaz_:

a TDC support line I mean

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RaYmAn-Bx:

ah

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thebrasse:

rayman, ok.. Is there some documentation on .mythtv/lircrc somewhere? The online docs doesn't really say much...

[20:17:47]

thebrasse:

corpix, thanks, I'll take a look.

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RaYmAn-Bx:

thebrasse: as far as I can tell you simply need to use whatever keybindings you have as commands for lircrc

[20:22:21]

thebrasse:

hmm, IÃ'm guessing tht 'button' (in lircrc) is the lirc button name, config is what is supposed to happen when I press that button. What different values can prog have?

[20:22:45]

RaYmAn-Bx:

prog should be mythtv for mythtv..

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thebrasse:

In corpix lircrc I can see irexec and mplayer as well..

[20:24:29]

thebrasse:

I would just like to know how it all fits together..

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corpix:

thebrasse, sure

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RaYmAn-Bx:

"prog =" defines which program the command is for..i.e. mythtv only picks up lircrc config entries that match "prog = mythtv"

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corpix:

thebrasse, "play" wouldnt interfer with mythtv if its used for mplayer at a time

[20:25:51]

corpix:

but it _is_ sent to mythtv as well

[20:27:46]

charmw:

So, is there a config file I can edit for the Myth-Weather?

[20:28:06]

charmw:

Or does it depend on the locale I set on install???

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drdaz_:

RaYmAn-Bx: another advantage to not using TDCs box is that there are a bunch of channels available on the cable that arent visible otherwise

[20:28:59]

drdaz_:

ie. TDC dont include them in their channel listings

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corpix:

charmw, simply use the "configuration" menu, its stored in the mysql db

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charmw:

corpix: the configuration menu times out

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corpix:

charmw, then use a mysql shell

[20:29:49]

charmw:

but I know a but of mysql... okay thanks.

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drdaz_:

for example... BBC Radio 1... I thought I'd lost that for good

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corpix:

or fix your mythtv install

[20:30:14]

drdaz_:

it wasnt on their listing... but I found it using dvbscan :D

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thebrasse:

corpix, so who actually sends the commands to mplayer (or xine in my case)? Would mythfrontend send commands to xine?

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corpix:

thebrasse, your remote ;)

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corpix:

then lirc

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kormoc:

thebrasse, for mythvideo, you might want to just switch to the internal video player, so the generic mythtv remote config works the same in recorded tv and videos

[20:33:17]

corpix:

thebrasse, i never managed to make progs send lirc codes

[20:34:12]

corpix:

kormoc, hi ! its still a riddle for me to use internal, you said only type "internal" (without the ") in play command ?

[20:34:23]

kormoc:

yup

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corpix:

hmm, still tells me "internal : command not found"

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corpix:

is there a binary which is called by "internal" ?

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Juski:

utils/settings > settings > media settings > video > playback is where you set that

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kormoc:

corpix, nope

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Juski:

there's no command as such to use mythtv's internal video player

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kormoc:

corpix, try a capital I

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corpix:

ok

[20:36:04]

corpix:

I: command not found

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Juski:

Internal

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kormoc:

Internal

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corpix:

oh, ok ;)

[20:36:26]

thebrasse:

kormoc, is the internal player any good? =)

[20:36:42]

kormoc:

thebrasse, it's the same as when you watch recorded tv, I think so

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drdaz_:

kormoc, it wont show menus yet will it?

[20:37:21]

kormoc:

drdaz_, menus? you mean for dvds?

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drdaz_:

yep

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kormoc:

right, it won't, but you can have mythtdvd use xine and mythvideo use the internal

[20:37:55]

drdaz_:

oh!

[20:37:59]

drdaz_:

hmm

[20:38:08]

drdaz_:

think I'll give that a shot actually

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corpix:

kormoc, ok, _setting_ it works now, but it couldnt play anything

[20:38:31]

kormoc:

corpix, ooh?

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corpix:

2006-04–03 22:37:43.532 Could not open /media/cube/hdc1/.movies/movies_hdd6/somemovie.avi. 1 retries remaining.

[20:38:50]

kormoc:

and that file does exist?

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corpix:

its mounted and accessible as user of course

[20:38:55]

corpix:

yes

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kormoc:

and it's readable by the mythtv user?

[20:39:02]

corpix:

yes

[20:39:13]

kormoc:

the backend user?

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corpix:

hmm, i go back to mplayer i think

[20:39:25]

corpix:

yes, since "mplayer" can read it

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kormoc:

nope

[20:39:34]

kormoc:

mplayer will run as the frontend user

[20:39:44]

kormoc:

Internal will go via the backend iirc

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corpix:

hmm, ok its 777 anyways

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kormoc:

fair nuff

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drdaz_:

kormoc, it uses the same deinterlace settings as when watching TV right?

[20:40:32]

kormoc:

wait, no it won't ever go as the backend, scratch that

[20:40:37]

kormoc:

drdaz_, aye

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drdaz_:

kormoc, is there any way of telling it not to? :p

[20:40:54]

kormoc:

don't think so

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drdaz_:

:(

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corpix:

anyways, its not that bad, i just wanted to see how it looks

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corpix:

have a lot of matroska files which could hardly played i guess

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drdaz_:

thats a shame really.. I'd like to use Internal... but my vids are generally not interlaced

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drdaz_:

where my TV is

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kormoc:

leaving interlacing off doesn't bug me

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** kormoc shrugs **

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drdaz_:

hmm... TV looks nasty if I dont have deint turned on

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kormoc:

of course, mythvideo might request that it not deinterlace as well

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drdaz_:

heh then I wouldnt have a problem :)

[20:44:20]

drdaz_:

with this at least... plenty of other problems :D

[20:44:47]

kormoc:

heh

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kormoc:

it's worth a shot and see how it looks

[20:45:01]

drdaz_:

what is?

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** drdaz_ is confused **

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kormoc:

to see if the Internal video player requests to not be deinterlaced

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Perdignus:

Can anyone tell me which debian package contains the "hg" command used by "make v4l-checkout" for IVTV's SVN please?

[20:46:00]

drdaz_:

I'd really like it to not do that

[20:46:09]

drdaz_:

atm it doesnt :(

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kormoc:

Perdignus, it's part of bash's scripting language, it's not an actual command

[20:46:15]

drdaz_:

or... does...

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drdaz_:

ffs

[20:46:28]

drdaz_:

too many negatives

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kormoc:

heh

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kormoc:

have you checked?

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drdaz_:

yes :)

[20:46:52]

drdaz_:

that what has caused the blabbering

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kormoc:

ahh, gotcha

[20:47:03]

drdaz_:

thats*

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drdaz_:

the picture looked odd... I figure thats why

[20:47:32]

drdaz_:

my vids arent interlaced

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sneezer:

kormoc i'm so sorry-- I gave up on gentoo and went back to ubuntu

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drdaz_:

somebody call the ambulance... kormoc is going for the razor blades... I can tell!

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drdaz_:

:p

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kormoc:

drdaz_, actually, deinterlacing I didn't think did anything when it wasn't interlaced, have you tried playing with the aspect ratio?

[20:56:12]

kormoc:

achew22, heh, g'luck with ti

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achew22:

I got it working in 46 min

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achew22:

thats 3days 5 hours faster than gentoo

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meushi:

heh

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Anduin:

In 15 years gentoo would have saved you that on ls alone.

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drdaz_:

kormoc, it doesnt look like an AR issue... it looks alot like a deinterlacing thing

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kormoc:

fair nuff

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achew22:

Anduin but I just use it for mythtv

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achew22:

nothing else

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drdaz_:

although it could well be that I've been watching these vids 'wrong' all along

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drdaz_:

and that this is how they are supposed to look

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Anduin:

achew22: Yeah, that was another gentoo jab, I thought that was what we were doing.

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kormoc:

gentoo is way faster and easier for what I want, but it's not right for most people

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Perdignus:

Looks like 'hg' was actually part of mercurial

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stuarta:

hg is mercurial, did nobody do chemistry? Hg is the symbol for mercury

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kormoc:

Perdignus, ooh, I thought you said bg, doh

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** drdaz_ would kill to have glmatrix in Windoze **

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drdaz_:

:-|

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kormoc:

drdaz_, http://elouai.com/the_matrix_screensaver.php

[21:05:17]

kormoc:

it's similar, but not the same

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drdaz_:

heh

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drdaz_:

thx

[21:06:10]

drdaz_:

has it got the 3d funk like glmatrix?

[21:06:54]

kormoc:

not overly, nope

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drdaz_:

aww

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drdaz_:

actually I found a rather good port of the 2d xmatrix xscreensaver hack for windows

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kormoc:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancem . . . nsaver.shtml

[21:07:48]

kormoc:

that one appears to do the 3d stuff

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drdaz_:

I even found a port of xscreensaver which includes glmatrix... and while most of the hacks work... glmatrix fails with a divide by zero error :(

[21:09:33]

drdaz_:

that last one looks decent tho

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drdaz_:

lol but it costs $$$

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drdaz_:

lies!

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drdaz_:

it doesnt

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drdaz_:

heh

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Juski:

I like that sproings screensaver – the one that's like Q-Bert

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Gurft:

I'm trying to add mythnews to my existing installation, do I need to stop and restart the backend or just the frontend for it to show up under the Information Center menu?

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Juski:

Gurft: probably just the frontend

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Gurft:

hrm, I tried restarting the frontend and it doesn't show up. Is there anythign else I would need to do besides the make and make isntall for myth to see it?

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Juski:

dunno

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Gurft:

well, let me try restarting both, but I think I've got recording running now, might have to schedule an outage with teh wife ;)

[21:23:44]

kormoc:

Gurft, if you installed myth via a package and mythnews via source, they may be insatlled in different locations

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Gurft:

naa, I built the whole thing from source

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kormoc:

well, still might want to make sure they're both insatlled in the same place

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kormoc:

/usr or /usr/local

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Perdignus:

I'm convinced the only way to get my PVR-500 working is to buy a new motherboard :(

[21:29:50]

Perdignus:

Anyone have any suggestions for a good AMD Atholon/Duron AGP mobo?

[21:30:10]

kormoc:

nforce 3 perhaps?

[21:30:19]

Gurft:

Perdingnus: are you having lockup issues with yoru VIA?

[21:30:22]

Beirdo:

nforce2

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Gurft:

I think I finally got over mine.....

[21:30:31]

Beirdo:

nforce3 is for AMD64

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kormoc:

ooh

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Beirdo:

:)

[21:30:44]

Perdignus:

Gurft: completely reboots after playing the card from either myth or even "cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg"

[21:30:46]

Beirdo:

as is nforce4

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Beirdo:

:)

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haj:

hm .. is it normal that mythfrontend uses 1.2gigs of memory?

[21:31:03]

kormoc:

nforce 4 also has intel supprt :P

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Beirdo:

possibly so, kormoc... but usually AMD64

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Gurft:

Perdignus: have you tried running noapic acpi=off and diabling ACCPI in yoru BIOS?

[21:31:31]

haj:

Perdignus: MSI K8N works.. but thats Athlon64 :o/

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kormoc:

haj, nope, but it also depends on what you're measuring

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Gurft:

ahh, for some reason it's throwing everything into /share/mythtv instead of /usr/local/share/mythtv...

[21:31:45]

Gurft:

odd

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Perdignus:

Gurft: no, that I didn't try, I'll give it a shot

[21:32:10]

Gurft:

hang on one second, let me pull my grub.conf settings

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Beirdo:

I HATE microshit

[21:32:19]

haj:

kormoc: well, the frontend uses 1207 memory, and 697 megs of them are resistent :)

[21:32:29]

kormoc:

yeah, that's not right at all :P

[21:32:39]

haj:

kormoc: and now the box is in swaphell :) wonder if theres a known leak somewhere :)

[21:32:43]

kormoc:

Beirdo, yeah, can't install anything else on the laptop?

[21:32:52]

Gurft:

Perdignus: I'm running Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.12 with ivtv 0.4.3

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haj:

i don't think it'll ever wake up, i might as well hit reset :)

[21:32:58]

Beirdo:

it's not that... that pisses me off, but is solvable

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Gurft:

kernel options; noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off

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kormoc:

haj, sure, there's a leak, and you know it exists :P

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Gurft:

with ACPI disabled in the BIOS completely

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Beirdo:

it's that mms:// uses a stupid custom protocol that opens RANDOM UDP ports

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** kormoc blinks **

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Perdignus:

Gurft: I'm on Debian Sid 2.6.16.1 ivtv 0.6.1 (I thought the 0.4.x series was for the 2.4.x kernel, or?)

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Beirdo:

yeah

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haj:

kormoc: i love the way the linuxkernel handles it.. it kills everything except the source of the problem :)

[21:33:48]

Beirdo:

there's a stream I want that I can only get by mms:

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kormoc:

haj, yeah, it's sad

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Beirdo:

works great at work on the Winblows machine

[21:34:14]

Beirdo:

won't work AT ALL with mplayer because my firewall is rejecting the audio

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thebrasse:

how do you people let xine know where the lircrc file is when mythtv keeps it in .mythtv/lircrc?

[21:35:30]

kormoc:

thebrasse, link it to ~/.lircrc or create a new one for xine

[21:37:54]

RaYmAn-Bx:

xine has a commandline option to change the path of the .lircrc as well

[21:38:15]

xris:

thebrasse: my ~/.mythtv/lircrc is a symlink to ~/.lircrc

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** kormoc sighs **

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kormoc:

I wish DrBair would answer me, I want to know how he fixed the mceusb2 remote's double key press issue

[21:39:30]

RaYmAn-Bx:

Does anyone actually know why mythtv uses a "weird" non-standard path for lircrc.

[21:40:04]

xris:

kormoc: that'd be sweet.

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** xris pokes DrBair **

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kormoc:

xris, yeah, he said updating to lirc 0.8.0 fixed it, but that didn't help on mine, so I assume he has a different lirc config for the remote

[21:41:11]

xris:

yeah

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Gurft:

Perdignus: you can run 0.4.3 with the older 2.6 kernels. I havne't upgraded for that reason.

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haj:

Perdignus: i had to dump two motherboards in order to get my PVR-500 working...

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Gurft:

I was about to, but finally found that "sweetspot" of configs that worked out well.

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Gurft:

ahh, looks like INSTALL_ROOT isn't being correctly set by ./configure even when specifying prefix

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kormoc:

ahh, wacky

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Perdignus:

haj: ugh, that's horrible, what mobo are you using now?

[21:51:02]

Juski:

ugh? where did the filter view go in mythvideo's gallery mode?

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Juski:

ahhh... I see now

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stuarta:

people been trying to confuse you Juski???

[21:54:09]

Juski:

stuarta: not quite

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stuarta:

hehe, just kidding :)

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Juski:

a mode to only show directories in gallery mode AND browsable files would be cool

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Juski:

might be a patch worth looking forward to, too

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haj:

Perdignus: MSI K8N Neo2

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haj:

-FX

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Juski:

just catching up on some theming stuff. too tired to continue with the bathroom renovation ;-)

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haj:

Perdignus: and that board seems to have a few bugs as well.. nothing serious though :)

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Juski:

gonna see if I can get that daft list mode to work properly

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Juski:

bah I remember now... those pesky arrows that are immovable :-/

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** haj starts to install mythfrontend on the xbox :) **

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Gurft:

alright, we're getting ther, I have the newsfeeds menu item, but when selected I get a blank screen.... something is definately screwey here. Maybe I should redownload the mythplugins source?

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Juski:

hoookayyyy.. changed the recording in progress colour to green in the playback menu. red on black never works well on TVs

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Juski:

any other ProjectGrayhem users wanna chip in?

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Juski:

(while I'm in the mood)...

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haj:

Juski: what are you working on?

[22:03:46]

Juski:

www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/

[22:04:09]

Juski:

just doing some tidying up

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Gurft:

is it possible just to do vertical overscan with nvidia cards?

[22:05:31]

haj:

ah.. well, i use project mayhem in xbmc :)

[22:06:04]

Juski:

you don't have any choice but to use PMIII in XBMC :-P

[22:06:19]

haj:

Juski: not really no :)

[22:06:26]

haj:

Juski: that looks very lovely :)

[22:06:38]

Juski:

nobody dares challenge chokey ;-)

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Rsx024:

whats the deal with digital channels do i have to designate one tuner card specifically for svideo input or can i set it to switch to svideo when i tell myth to tune to digital channel?

[22:08:31]

Juski:

haj: there's still work to do on the 4:3 theme – but I might be discontinuing that

[22:08:43]

haj:

Juski: sad.. i use 4:3 :)

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Rsx024:

me too

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Juski:

I said 'might' ;-)

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haj:

:)

[22:09:25]

stuarta:

Juski: maybe put it somewhere it can be maintained by others?

[22:09:42]

Juski:

anyone is free to download it & do as they please with it

[22:10:00]

** haj just discovered that the mythfilldatabase-cronjob was pointing in the wrong way :) **

[22:10:08]

haj:

it's pretty clever that mythweb warns you.

[22:10:12]

Juski:

there's not much wrong with the 4:3 theme actually

[22:10:37]

eppler:

i'm wondering if there is a patch or way for mythtv to keep the livetv cache even after going back to the main menu – is this possible?

[22:10:37]

Juski:

couple of alignment issues that shouldn't take long to fix... lemme see

[22:11:04]

Juski:

eppler: in 0.19 everything is kept, but live recordings expire after 24 hours by default

[22:11:48]

Juski:

if you quit to the main menu I think the recording stops though

[22:11:51]

eppler:

juski: yes, but it doesn't record while i'm browsing the menus – i'll have several livetv 'chunks' – am i correct?

[22:11:54]

Gurft:

do plugins ever send anything to teh mythfrontend log?

[22:12:08]

Juski:

which is just one reason you should move into the 21st century & stop using livetv ;-)

[22:12:49]

haj:

Juski: it is a pretty neat feature :)

[22:13:17]

Juski:

haj: it'd be easy enough to code, but I can see all the complaints streaming in

[22:13:34]

Juski:

people moaned enough about 0.19 keeping livetv recordings for a day

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Juski:

and they _still_ complain about it

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eppler:

i'm sure they do – i don't mind – they are set to autoexpire...its not like they are eating up valuable space

[22:14:30]

Juski:

.. a fact lost on the people with 1GB HDDs... ROFL

[22:17:57]

haj:

hehe... :)

[22:19:33]

haj:

hm.... how to get 0.19 in xubuntu without compiling? anyone know where to get packages?

[22:19:43]

haj:

the ones for debian dosn't seem to work very well.

[22:19:48]

eppler:

i just compiled, wasn't too bad

[22:20:12]

Gurft:

haj: I compiled here too, again, went clean

[22:20:22]

haj:

eppler: this is an xbox.. last time i compiled mythtv on it it took like.. 6 hours :)

[22:20:29]

Gurft:

LoL

[22:20:44]

haj:

it swaps like mad.

[22:20:57]

hashbang:

eppler: the livetv thing might well be a privacy thing...

[22:21:00]

eppler:

i was wondering if xubuntu was a typo or not...

[22:21:17]

haj:

eppler: :)

[22:21:19]

Juski:

oh fuck. tried editing the wiki theme page to add my theme – all well & good til I click save, then the spam filter whacks it cos the mythcenter theme is on Geocities :-/

[22:21:20]

Gurft:

haj... why not compile on another i386 box, then NFS mount and do the make install on the XBOX?

[22:22:01]

haj:

Gurft: that might work.. but i don't have any other machines running ubuntu :) and i bet the libraries will be incompatible.

[22:23:02]

eppler:

hashbang: yeah i can see that, maybe a preference would be nice...i'm a prev. tivo user and just trying to get rid of some bad habbits

[22:23:20]

haj:

weh.. just found a package repository :)

[22:24:43]

Gurft:

Okay, NVIDIA overscan really stinks... I'm tryin got figure out how to get it to just scale vertically....

[22:25:18]

haj:

hm .. sourceforge cvs.. it has an uptime of like, 25% ? :)

[22:25:22]

Juski:

Gurft: you can't

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Juski:

overscan so the vertical areas are filled, and take the hit on the sides. TV is supposed to be shown overscanned anyway – most TVs overscan by 5% in all directions – sometimes as much as 10% !

[22:27:07]

Juski:

if the mythtv UI doesn't fit, adjust the size in the appearances setup pages. If you want the desktop to fit – hard lines

[22:29:28]

Juski:

what'll also help is using a screen res with the right aspect ratio – e.g. 4:3 == 800x600; 16:9 ==1280x720 (etc)

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Gurft:

do these settings work if you're not running a window manager?

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laga:

hi

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haj:

hey

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Juski:

hiya laga :)

[22:30:17]

Juski:

Gurft: you really need to be using a wm

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stuarta:

hi laga!

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laga:

Juski: hehe, i was looking for you, kind of :) the GF is going on a europe trip on wednesday and now i need to find out what beer she should bring me from the UK. any hints?

[22:30:37]

laga:

hi stuarta

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Juski:

laga: uhhhhhh... hmmmm.. nice UK beer... hmmmm

[22:30:58]

stuarta:

it's all shit...

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scopeuk:

hob goblin

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Juski:

lager beer or beer beer?

[22:31:12]

laga:

Juski: if it's tasty, i drink it.

[22:31:19]

Juski:

Old Peculiar... Ole Speckled Hen...

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stuarta:

Frigate & Titanic

[22:31:45]

** haj would recommend all sorts of stout and porters :) **

[22:31:46]

haj:

mmmm

[22:31:49]

Juski:

Brains S.A. (bit of a producer of random city centre nakedness)

[22:31:50]

hashbang:

laga: something from Bath Ales

[22:32:02]

Juski:

Newcastle Brown Ale ... not good for your bowels though

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stuarta:

cleansing :)

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hashbang:

laga: and something from Wadworths

[22:32:39]

laga:

there's canned guiness that comes with a special CO2 capsule to make it taste fresher. is that commonplace in UK shops?

[22:32:50]

stuarta:

NO2 actually

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hashbang:

laga: common as muck.

[22:33:12]

Juski:

nitrous oxide?

[22:33:17]

laga:

stuarta: works for me. if it's fizzy.

[22:33:18]

scopeuk:

yup

[22:33:26]

scopeuk:

makes it v.fizzyt

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Juski:

as in laughing gas?

[22:33:32]

scopeuk:

you use the stuff in soda machinces

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Juski:

woooooo!

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Gurft:

Juski: What are the benefits of running the WM?

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stuarta:

to be specific NO2/CO2 mix 60/40 percentage

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hashbang:

laga: we don't really do 'fizzy' beer, here.

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stuarta:

that in the pub at least....

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scopeuk:

you want fizzy try uk fosters

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laga:

hashbang: i know. but if it makes the beer taste fresher, it's great. i love guiness.

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stuarta:

fosters is crap, but at least you can drink it in Europe...

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laga:

00:33 < Gurft> Juski: What are the benefits of running the WM?

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laga:

^^ gurft: that was too much for him.

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hashbang:

stuarta: it's all made in Reading, isn't it?

[22:34:53]

hashbang:

stuarta: just of M4 J11

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laga:

well, thanks for the hints. i'll have a few drinks on you guys, hopefully :)

[22:35:25]

Juski:

Gurft: mostly that you're a lot less likely to lose window focus when you need it most (like on quiting from an external player etc)

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scopeuk:

you have sked about beara cupple of years ago id have recomeneded the stuff from my local brewery but they shut the damn thing down

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stuarta:

hashbang: they are closing all UK production & shipping it in from Ireland these days....

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hashbang:

laga: if you like 'fizzy' beer, try and get her to pick up a keg from Zerodegrees microbrewery.

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laga:

hashbang: a whole keg is gonna get complicated

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Juski:

fizzy beer is for southern pansy types though ;-)

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laga:

hashbang: but she says she likes me, so...maybe she manages to get me one ;)

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Juski:

lol

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Juski:

love is...

[22:36:43]

Juski:

heh

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laga:

booze?

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hashbang:

Juski: not even all southern pansies.

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laga:

Juski: if i come to the lugradio meeting, i'll try to bring you some of our beer

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hashbang:

laga: or, alternatively, get her to bring some cider.

[22:37:25]

laga:

hashbang: no, thanks...

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scopeuk:

british cider appels

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scopeuk:

hard to top

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Juski:

laga: if you manage to get to lugradiolive you'll have to try some WKD... you'll never have a good impression of the UK again

[22:37:43]

hashbang:

Juski: no, /real/ cider.

[22:37:53]

Juski:

scrumpeeE?

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** hashbang nods. **

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scopeuk:

*gfrin*

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hashbang:

e.g. 'Gibbon Strangler'

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laga:

Juski: WKD?

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Juski:

with bits in it? fantastic stuff. bye bye braincells though

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hashbang:

Juski: ah, /that's/ where they went...

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laga:

Juski: i've never had a good impression of the UK anyways. except that i'd prolly like to work over there ;)

[22:38:26]

Juski:

laga: it's a chemical concoction popular with big girls' blouses all over the UK

[22:38:39]

Juski:

comes in 'red' and 'blue' flavours

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Juski:

(!)

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stuarta:

there was white as well

[22:39:01]

scopeuk:

also poular with drinking partisipants of the female variety

[22:39:14]

scopeuk:

as far as my school goes any way all sat there drinking it threw straws

[22:39:16]

laga:

Juski: make sense please :P i'm tired as hell and i've spent the last few hours studying ;)

[22:39:20]

Gurft:

Juski: thank you, now things look normal.

[22:39:21]

hashbang:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scrumpy/cider/brewers2.htm

[22:39:22]

mirak:

hi

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Juski:

stuarta is a conneusseur of the stuff, obviously ;-)

[22:39:25]

mirak:

I have not used mythtv since some time and I have troubles using it again

[22:39:39]

mirak:

under wich user the backend must run ?

[22:39:42]

stuarta:

no just spent 2 years selling it to drunk people :)

[22:39:44]

scopeuk:

mythtv

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Juski:

laga: it's an 'alcopop' – most awful...

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laga:

Juski: BLECH

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mirak:

scopeuk: I have a mythtv users, it was seted up fine

[22:40:11]

laga:

alcopops should go back to hell. people should drink more beer again.

[22:40:28]

scopeuk:

ye hreal ale is needed though

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mirak:

scopeuk: but I have that arror : /home/karim/mythtv/record/nfslockfile.lock: Permission not allowed

[22:40:28]

mirak:

Unable to open lockfile!

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scopeuk:

where have all the small /kandlord brewers gone

[22:41:21]

mirak:

Be sure that '/home/karim/mythtv/record' exists and that both

[22:41:21]

mirak:

the directory and that file are writeable by this user.

[22:41:28]

hashbang:

scopeuk: they're still around, but most cities only support a few real ale-only pubs

[22:41:34]

mirak:

well they are 777

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hashbang:

scopeuk: seems most folk are content to pour fosters pisswater down their necks.

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mirak:

ok the nfs lock file doesn't have this rights

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Juski:

last good all day sesh I had started with pints of scrumpy, then real ales, then cocktails, real ales, scrumpy... good way to get wasted

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scopeuk:

yeh oonce you start drinking real ale you cant go back

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stuarta:

prefer guiness myself

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corpix:

mythtv needs a shutdown timer ;)

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corpix:

(btw)

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mirak:

Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

[22:44:06]

mirak:

sorry to ask, but I needed to record something tonight, and I need to sleep

[22:44:07]

mirak:

lol

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Gurft:

okay, last thing and this bo will be complete. I get a Green line across the top of TV and recordings, with like a 1" purple line..... any suggestions how to get rid of it?

[22:44:38]

scopeuk:

tuning?

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mirak:

Gurft: what's your TV standard ?

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Juski:

Gurft: not enough overscan, and xvcolorkey ;-)

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Gurft:

I fixed it before with overscan, what is xvcolorkey?

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Juski:

unless you mean a 1" _high_ purple line

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Gurft:

NTSCbtw

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Gurft:

no, 1" wide

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Juski:

at the end of the green line?

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Gurft:

no, in the middle, shifted slightly to the right

[22:45:40]

Gurft:

greeeeeeeeeeeeeeenpurplegreeeen

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Juski:

overscan it out

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Gurft:

Juski, is overscan the solution to everything?

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Gurft:

;)

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mirak:

does it take time, or is it possible to migrate a mythtv setup from a linux installation to another one, even n the same computer ?

[22:46:24]

mirak:

it take ages to set mythtv up :-/

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corpix:

mirak, you could copy the db

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stuarta:

overscan or beer

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corpix:

beer

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Gurft:

mmm, sadly I'm no where near a good pint

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Juski:

Gurft: it's usually caused by the capture card grabbing the whole of the active video signal – areas that don't necessarily have picture info on them

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mirak:

corpix: I think I have done that already, but not installed mythtv

[22:47:22]

mirak:

in fact I am here on an old install, but something seems broken

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mirak:

I use ubuntu

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Juski:

Gurft: and those bits come out looking green or blueish depending on certain things

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Gurft:

okay, cool, I overscanned it out :)

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Gurft:

now, should I go through the motions of moving the directv box over from the Composite input to SVIDEO, or is it not worth my time?

[22:48:15]

Juski:

I use a 720x576 video mode on my EPia frontend – it fits absolutely perfectly with just under 5% overscan

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Juski:

Gurft: hell yeah – big improvement in picture

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Gurft:

Really? Then it will be done!

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mirak:

well it's weird, it seems it works, though when starting the deamon I got that authentication error

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laga:

night guys, and again, thanks for the help

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Juski:

night laga

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corpix:

laga, n8

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Gurft:

Juski, where is your theme at?

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scopeuk:

www.juski.co.uk

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scopeuk:

its very nice

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mirak:

ok it works :D

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scopeuk:

i used it for a bit then realised i couldent live without the extra features tages onto my knopmyth default

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Juski:

?

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Juski:

what extra features?

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scopeuk:

there is a menu thrown in wit hshutdown reboot backup adn restore on it

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Juski:

that'd be easy to add

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scopeuk:

yeh to someone that has a clue what there doing :D

[22:55:22]

Juski:

might be worth me downloading not-myth & having a play to see what they've done

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Juski:

should be easy though

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corpix:

Juski, wow, this IS a nice them

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corpix:

e

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Juski:

I wouldn't go as far as installing it though (not-myth) I mean

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scopeuk:

lol

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mirak:

damn I have no sound

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scopeuk:

ssh ten alsamixer -V all

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Juski:

downloading it....

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mirak:

the mythtv-setup must be run from wich user ?

[22:58:20]

scopeuk:

root

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mirak:

myhtv or my personal user ?

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Juski:

mythtv

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scopeuk:

thoguht setup was root

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scopeuk:

oh well

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scopeuk:

explains alot

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Gurft:

CRAP, is there a way to set the GUI sizes back to defaults?

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Juski:

you can run it as any user but you have to have a mysql.txt for that user

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Juski:

Gurft: yup

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** hashbang appears to have mythburn doing useful things **

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Juski:

Gurft: mythfrontend --reset

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mirak:

jsut a question. How to setup audio ?

[23:00:34]

mirak:

is there something particular to do ?

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Gurft:

mirak: does audio work from like xmms or other applications?

[23:00:57]

mirak:

I have line in sound, but I don't have what mythtv is supposed to record

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mirak:

Gurft: sure

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mirak:

I have a sblive 5.1 digital, it have a irrational mixer

[23:02:32]

mirak:

specs where never totally reverse enginered, so some behavior are strange

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mirak:

Gurft: I am not sure about the output device

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mirak:

I have two sound cards, the internal and the sblive

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mirak:

plus webcam

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mirak:

that also have an internal mic

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mirak:

:-/

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Gurft:

does dmesg give you any hints as to which is which device?

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Gurft:

or anything in /proc?

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mirak:

mmm

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kormoc:

mirak, did you try what the docs said?

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mirak:

kormoc: about sound ?

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kormoc:

yes

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mirak:

yes

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kormoc:

namely the section on Setting the mixer from the command line, where it talks about what to set where and how to deal with multiple cards

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kormoc:

so then what's your problem?

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Gurft:

Juski, i installed your theme, it's great, but I miss the original menu order

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mirak:

well I don't know wich /dev/dsp device I should use

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Gurft:

i sthere a way to change it back?

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kormoc:

mirak, Well, how about I ask you this, do you even want both of those sound cards? why not just disable the onbard one?

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Juski:

Gurft: what original menu order?

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Juski:

themes don't mess with the menu order

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Juski:

AFAIK...

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Juski:

there's the 'classic' view you can use... in the appearance settings menu

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Gurft:

ahh, maybe I checked it by accident

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Gurft:

sorry, coincidental events. I'll check after this reboot.

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Juski:

np

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mirak:

kormoc: because I need to reboot !

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mirak:

lol

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scopeuk:

any one know if there are plans to add a graphical mixer to the myth frontend/setup program

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Juski:

AFAIK there are no plans. what would you need one for?

[23:16:28]

Gurft:

Juski, you were right, I had set the menu theme to DVR

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mirak:

I reboot

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Juski:

gonna upload a new version of the wide theme shortly

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scopeuk:

Juski so i can remute the damn recordign level after myth turns it on

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mirak:

how is it possible that the line in sound just pass through without beeing possible to record it ?

[23:17:59]

Perdignus:

Gruft: I give up on the PVR-500, I'm going to return it, noapic, acpi=off, off in the BIOS, no preempt, etc... and the PC still reboots :(

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Perdignus:

*Gurft*

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kormoc:

mirak, cause the capture settings are not set right

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Gurft:

:( that really sticks Perdignus. have you thought about switching base kernels? I fought with Gentoo for weeks, before switching to Fedora, fought for 3 days, switched to ubuntu, been happy working since....

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Gurft:

Probably was just changes in the kernel to get everything matching up right

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Perdignus:

Gurft: I'd hate to move back to the 2.4 kernel if that's what you mean, I'm too happy with Debian to move off it too, I'll just wait for better technology I think

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Gurft:

No, I was thinking just stepping back a few 2.6 levels so you can run the 0.4.3 ivtv drivers instead of the 0.6 versions

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Perdignus:

Oh, well, I guess I'd do it, if it would world, which version of 2.6 will work best with 0.4.3 ?

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Perdignus:

*would work* I meant to say

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Gurft:

I've had great luck with 2.6.12

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Perdignus:

ok, I'll give it a shot, thanks

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Gurft:

to the point that I don't ever want to change at this point. Works great with ivtv-0.4.3, and with the hacked lirc that supports the Hauppauge IR Blaster

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mirak:

I have crackling in the sound :-/

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Gurft:

Okay, I can't find this in teh docs. If I'm viewing the program guide while watching livetv

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Gurft:

how do I select the channel to watch in livetv?

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