| Tuesday, March 21st, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | pilly: | hrmmm... think I'll pick up parts tonight.... |
| [00:00:49] | Achew22: | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=desktop if I follow that will I be alright? |
| [00:00:56] | pilly: | chavwatch: is this the ir you used or close?? http://www.electronics-lab.com/projects/pc/019/index.html |
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| [00:01:12] | kormoc: | Achew22, if you just emerge mythtv, you'd be alright as well |
| [00:01:26] | Achew22: | will it create an x session? |
| [00:01:41] | chavwatch: | pilly: more or less |
| [00:01:50] | kormoc: | Achew22, yes... |
| [00:01:54] | Achew22: | cool! |
| [00:02:17] | Achew22: | will emerge get version .19? |
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| [00:02:33] | chavwatch: | I think 0.19 is still in ~x86 |
| [00:02:36] | kormoc: | Achew22, if you're running ~x86, yes, else no |
| [00:02:48] | ** kormoc pokes Cardoe. ** | |
| [00:02:48] | Achew22: | i'm i686 is that close enough/ |
| [00:02:51] | kormoc: | ... |
| [00:03:10] | kormoc: | that's totally unrelated. |
| [00:03:11] | Cardoe: | hey |
| [00:03:29] | kormoc: | Cardoe, hihi! so just wondering when you were planning to move 0.19 to stable? |
| [00:03:44] | Cardoe: | very soon |
| [00:03:51] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [00:03:54] | kormoc: | cause I'll have some changes for you before you do |
| [00:03:58] | Cardoe: | x86 and ppc... now? |
| [00:03:59] | Cardoe: | doh |
| [00:03:59] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [00:04:12] | kormoc: | just some rearranging to make it a bit nicer to people |
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| [00:05:42] | chavwatch: | god, sitting here watching cctv is no fun. I dunno how security guards can do this |
| [00:06:11] | shiznix: | low intelligence |
| [00:07:08] | chavwatch: | heh |
| [00:07:32] | chavwatch: | figures, since they're the kind of people who ask how much a HDD weighs when it's full |
| [00:07:55] | shiznix: | lol |
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| [00:14:23] | ragawu: | hey there, amongst other nightmarish problems, I'm seeing this error message when I watch live tv from my kworld dvb card |
| [00:14:29] | ragawu: | parser not found for codec id 94212 |
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| [00:15:18] | ragawu: | searching reveals a problem with the dvb subtitle (function/script/routine) a good few months ago. I'm running the latest svn checkout |
| [00:15:33] | ragawu: | nothing on the mailing lists recently |
| [00:15:39] | Sudanmas: | Hi Kormoc – are you there by any chance? |
| [00:15:46] | kormoc: | yes sir, I am |
| [00:15:52] | ragawu: | I really like the latest release, don't want to go back....:-( |
| [00:16:14] | ragawu: | now I go peep and wait with baited breath |
| [00:16:24] | ragawu: | trembling |
| [00:16:43] | kormoc: | ragawu, you can try 0.19-fixes svn branch if you want, it has a bunch of fixes that might affect your issue |
| [00:16:56] | Sudanmas: | kormoc – cool :) I was wondering if I could pick up the issue we'd chatted about a couple weeks ago re: video/audio stutter after upgrading from .18 to .19 |
| [00:18:17] | ragawu: | am I rigt in thinking if I checkout from ...mythtv.org/svn/trunk I've got the .20 version? |
| [00:18:38] | ragawu: | I'm new to this maybe read it wrong and still have .19 |
| [00:18:53] | Sudanmas: | We'd checked the specs of my video/cpu/memory and were looking at my hard drive to make sure it's keeping pace |
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| [00:19:47] | GreyFoxx: | robin_: Did you also update your nvidia driver at the sametime ? |
| [00:19:53] | GreyFoxx: | err Rob: That is |
| [00:19:58] | Ryushin: | Where do I turn off the fade affect when changing menu items? |
| [00:20:41] | Sudanmas: | Greg – I just did an apt-get update mythtv, so it's possible that the video drivers got upgraded as well |
| [00:20:47] | GreyFoxx: | Ryushin: I don't think they have put in a menu optioon y yet, but you can do it from the commandline |
| [00:21:05] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend -O UseOpenGLPainter=0 will disable the fade effects |
| [00:21:07] | ragawu: | sorry you seem busy kormac. I'll checkout and compile .19-fixes, but wait before I install it |
| [00:21:21] | GreyFoxx: | Sudanmas: Go into the playback settings and turn OFF the OpenGL Vsync option |
| [00:21:25] | GreyFoxx: | see if that makes a different |
| [00:21:30] | ragawu: | another long wait |
| [00:22:15] | Ryushin: | GreyFoxx: Thank you, I appreciate it. |
| [00:22:48] | Sudanmas: | GreyFoxx – that option is currently disabled. |
| [00:23:14] | GreyFoxx: | the 8174 and 8178 versions of the nvidia driver have some serious bugs when it comes to OpenGL Vsync which majorly push up CPU usage |
| [00:23:35] | GreyFoxx: | Sudanmas: Ahh ok, so it's off and you still get a stutter? Is CPU usage way up there during playback ? |
| [00:23:45] | Sudanmas: | I was told it was |
| [00:24:19] | Sudanmas: | There was some command which produced a cpu usage stat and it appeared the cpu was being overtaxed |
| [00:24:24] | GreyFoxx: | hrm. Try something , try downgrading to 7676 or something, just to see if it makes a different |
| [00:24:41] | pilly: | chavwatch: on your ir reciever is there a battery (CR2032) if so have you ever had to replace it? |
| [00:24:42] | Sudanmas: | How do you perform a downgrade? :) |
| [00:26:01] | Sudanmas: | (Sorry – I'm linux illiterate) |
| [00:26:28] | GreyFoxx: | I never use packages so I honestly wouldn't know. I always just recompile with the new version :) |
| [00:27:50] | Sudanmas: | I couldn't survive without them. Compiling from scratch gives me a headache. |
| [00:28:43] | ragawu: | once you've got compiling working its fairly easy, but time consuming |
| [00:28:49] | ** simcop2387 wants xgl and compiz to mature more i want mythfrontend on my root window so that i can hit a key on my keyboard to make the other windows transparent and have gaim on top partially transparent ** | |
| [00:29:32] | Sudanmas: | I'll see about grabbing 7676 and see what happens |
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| [00:30:25] | kormoc: | Sudanmas, so what's the issue again? |
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| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | Sudanmas, ahh, want to downgrade, that's simple |
| [00:31:01] | Sudanmas: | Kormoc – audio video stutter during playback while a show is being recorded in the background |
| [00:31:21] | kormoc: | ooh, right, just when it's recording, correct? |
| [00:31:25] | kormoc: | and what was the tuner card? |
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| [00:32:06] | Sudanmas: | That's correct – with a job recording and something being played back the stutter occurs. I'm running a hauppage 250 |
| [00:32:50] | Sudanmas: | The issue cropped up when I moved from .18 to .19 Prior to that the issue wasn't present. |
| [00:33:10] | jd86: | anyone here use a norwood micro card? i need help getting it going fo rmy friend |
| [00:33:29] | Sudanmas: | Pausing and then unpausing playback when the stutter occurs temporarily fixes things |
| [00:33:44] | kormoc: | Sudanmas, did we speed test the harddrive? |
| [00:34:18] | Sudanmas: | I think we were getting to that. The had is a 7800 rpm which I think is fast enough. |
| [00:34:24] | Sudanmas: | had = hd |
| [00:34:37] | Sudanmas: | We were looking at the hdparm stats |
| [00:34:37] | kormoc: | as root, hdparm -t /dev/hdX will speed test it |
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| [00:35:27] | Sudanmas: | That's where we left off – the hdparm man pages exist on my system, but I couldn't locate or run the hdparm app itself |
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| [00:36:12] | chavwatch: | pilly: I power my IR receiver from a USB port |
| [00:36:15] | ragawu: | 42.4 MB/s is sufficient right? |
| [00:36:32] | chavwatch: | ragawu: more than enough |
| [00:36:32] | ragawu: | (I'm suffering low frame rate with dvb) |
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| [00:36:50] | ragawu: | that's what I hoped chavwatch! |
| [00:37:06] | chavwatch: | ragawu: what CPU / video card / video card drivers are you using? |
| [00:37:21] | jonty: | Afternoon, is the super-super slow DVB channel changing in 0.19 a known bug, or has something gone wrong my end? |
| [00:38:00] | ragawu: | athlon 2500+ XP barton core / ati radeon 9200 / proprietery ati drivers |
| [00:38:06] | chavwatch: | jonty: it's a known 'feature' |
| [00:38:18] | ragawu: | jonty: yes it's brilliant |
| [00:38:32] | chavwatch: | ragawu: are you using Xv ? |
| [00:38:34] | jonty: | c/r: Aha! And is it going to be fixed? |
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| [00:39:14] | chavwatch: | jonty: maybe, but not everybody uses livetv |
| [00:39:29] | ragawu: | as far as I am aware I 'should' be, |
| [00:39:37] | ragawu: | I just did a lsmod |
| [00:39:39] | ragawu: | fglrx 255780 7 |
| [00:39:39] | ragawu: | agpgart 34888 2 nvidia_agp,fglrx |
| [00:40:00] | chavwatch: | nvidia_agp, with a Radeon? |
| [00:40:01] | ragawu: | could that mean the fglrx agpgart is still there messing with the nvidia one? |
| [00:40:03] | D-side: | pfeh. this problem is pissing me off. |
| [00:40:08] | kormoc: | Sudanmas, you need to be root to run it |
| [00:40:11] | ragawu: | it's nforce chipset |
| [00:40:15] | jonty: | chavwatch: Seriously?? It's rendered DVB livetv totally unusable! |
| [00:40:19] | chavwatch: | oh right |
| [00:40:30] | kormoc: | ragawu, 42 megs per second is fine |
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| [00:40:52] | chavwatch: | jonty: I suggest you peruse the mythtv dev mailing list archive |
| [00:41:18] | jonty: | chavwatch: okeydoke, thanks |
| [00:41:20] | chavwatch: | people are working on it, but channel change times seem to be related to DVB drivers |
| [00:41:20] | ragawu: | I remember reading that it was important to make sure that I chose the nvidia agpgart rather than the ati one, I though I'd sorted that out. known symptoms of that problem are crashes, which I don't get, hooray for linux |
| [00:41:41] | kormoc: | ragawu, that makes no sense... |
| [00:41:50] | chavwatch: | ragawu: do you have EIT turned on? |
| [00:41:51] | jonty: | chavwatch: Changing a channel in 0.18 was about 5s, now it's in the order of 30s – no driver change |
| [00:42:00] | ragawu: | chavwatch: I do |
| [00:42:08] | chavwatch: | jonty: yes I know, but... ;-) |
| [00:42:13] | jonty: | Arrgh |
| [00:42:18] | ragawu: | all the program info is over the air |
| [00:42:35] | chavwatch: | ragawu: the EIT parser is buggy in 0.19 |
| [00:42:40] | pilly: | chavwatch: do you still have the website with the plans for yours? |
| [00:43:06] | D-side: | can anyone point me in the right direction with a problem that must be of my own doing: some recordings will play just fine, others wont work, with the controlling console reporting its attempt to connect to the machine's PREVIOUS IP |
| [00:43:09] | chavwatch: | pilly: I made mine from the crappy ascii schematics on lirc.org |
| [00:43:20] | Sudanmas: | kormoc – got it |
| [00:43:22] | D-side: | i changed the machine around a bit, and now I can't figure this one out. |
| [00:43:29] | pilly: | thanks I'll have a look... |
| [00:43:36] | Sudanmas: | 172mb in 3.02 seconds |
| [00:43:38] | ragawu: | chavwatch: thanks for that bit of info |
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| [00:44:04] | chavwatch: | ragawu: if you're up to the task of compiling it, try 0.19-fixes |
| [00:44:10] | ragawu: | so go back to xmltv / radiotimes and get .19-fixes branch and see from there |
| [00:44:36] | ragawu: | compiling doesn't pose many problems. just the wait is annoying |
| [00:44:37] | chavwatch: | ragawu: RT is better than EIT anyway... you get 14 days' data |
| [00:44:48] | Sudanmas: | That works out to 57mb/sec |
| [00:45:52] | ragawu: | I went with eit cause I lost my paitence with xmltv, but to be honest I guess it was just fatigue at my amatuerish attempts to be clever and use a linux box |
| [00:46:27] | chavwatch: | ragawu: if you watch the output of top while you're in livetv mode you'll notice it's not mythfrontend taking the most cycles, if EIT is causing your problem |
| [00:46:46] | ragawu: | don't feel clever, girlfriend thinks I'm losing interest, |
| [00:46:57] | ragawu: | chavwatch: how do I watch the ouput of top? |
| [00:47:00] | chavwatch: | clever? xmltv isn't that hard |
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| [00:47:31] | chavwatch: | ragawu: if you can ssh into the system that's a good way to do it... or run mythfrontend in a window |
| [00:47:41] | ragawu: | I just get frustrated with my poor attempts |
| [00:47:41] | chavwatch: | then open a terminal session ;) |
| [00:47:43] | fatmatt: | has anyone here ever modifed a power supply to run quietly, removed/changed fans etc? |
| [00:47:54] | ragawu: | ssh at the moment |
| [00:48:20] | ragawu: | I swapped the noisy as hell 120mm antec aria for a much better one |
| [00:48:27] | ragawu: | it's loads quieter |
| [00:48:29] | chavwatch: | fatmatt: yup – it's not for the faint-hearted.. be careful to let the capacitors discharge or you could get a nasty jolt |
| [00:48:40] | ragawu: | yah be extra careful |
| [00:49:12] | chavwatch: | try xinruilian fans if you can get em |
| [00:49:15] | ragawu: | antec aria = very easy fan repacement |
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| [00:49:57] | ragawu: | nexus real silent 120mm, it's rpm is lower than most |
| [00:50:15] | ragawu: | but most psu don't have 120mm, I will shut up |
| [00:50:23] | Juski: | you don't necessarily want less airflow though |
| [00:51:39] | ragawu: | I had solved all internal overheating issues, the antec was overkill |
| [00:51:57] | ragawu: | well most overheating issues... |
| [00:52:10] | fatmatt: | I'll probably just buy a quieter unit for the mythtv box, but I've got an ipcop firewall, old P400 (I think), it's a little noisy |
| [00:53:07] | D-side: | ugh. |
| [00:53:10] | D-side: | this is making me angry. |
| [00:53:10] | fatmatt: | how do you make sure the caps are discharged? wait? or try and turn it on once the powers removed? |
| [00:53:49] | Juski: | leave it for a few hours after pulling the plug with the system turned on |
| [00:54:18] | ragawu: | I'm ranting a lot, hope not to offend |
| [00:54:37] | D-side: | since its been ten minutes, i'll ask again. some of my recordings play just fine, others fail because they try to connect to the wrong IP. |
| [00:54:54] | D-side: | where in the db would it say which recordings are stored where? i'm assuming thats it anyway. |
| [00:55:07] | Juski: | the main reservoir capacitor in your PC's PSU can hold around 400 volts, fatmatt |
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| [00:55:36] | wylie: | I've heard it helps to disconnect the power cable and try and turn the system on — this will help drain the PSU |
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| [00:55:57] | Juski: | wylie: not with ATX PSUs |
| [00:56:10] | wylie: | bummer |
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| [00:57:13] | ragawu: | I had thathappen with an atx, power button caused the fans to turn for half a second, wasnt working on the psu at the time so didn't get to prove that theory...(and get fried) |
| [00:57:19] | Juski: | you prolly don't need to leave it a few hours after unplugging the mains from a powered up (preferably not booted) system though- just err on the side of caution |
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| [00:57:57] | ragawu: | caution is always best |
| [00:59:16] | ragawu: | I have to recompile all the plugins when going from trunk svn to branches/.19-fixes right? |
| [00:59:29] | fatmatt: | I've got some spare psu's, maybe I'll just work on one of them and swap it out... |
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| [01:02:50] | Achew22: | does emerge lock like apt so that you cant run two emerges at the same time? |
| [01:03:04] | ragawu: | Juski: should I --disable-dvb-eit when I configure .19-fixes? |
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| [01:03:10] | ragawu: | or just not use it |
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| [01:03:46] | Juski: | ragawu: you can just elect to not use it |
| [01:03:59] | Juski: | infact you can configure mythtv to not use it now |
| [01:03:59] | ragawu: | great |
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| [01:04:16] | ragawu: | better to not bother compilingit? |
| [01:04:29] | Ryushin: | I've set up mythfrontend running my laptop. Works great with ntsc recordings. Anyone know if it's even possible to do hd decoding on a pentium 4 M running at 2 ghz? libmpeg is a bit better than standard. Can myth use SSE extensions? Laptop has a ATI chipset, so XvMC isn't an option. |
| [01:04:34] | ragawu: | (if that's what disablind does...) |
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| [01:04:55] | Juski: | ragawu: if you're gonna use xmltv anyway you may aswell just stick with 0.19 for now |
| [01:04:55] | ragawu: | disabling |
| [01:05:18] | ragawu: | but the fixes branch? |
| [01:05:50] | Juski: | just stick with 0.19 to save yourself the bother.. the fixes improve stuff but they're not finished yet |
| [01:06:25] | ragawu: | did I mention I checked out from the trunk rather than the branches, does that mean I'm running .20 and should go back? |
| [01:06:37] | Juski: | ah |
| [01:06:49] | Juski: | that puts a different slant on things |
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| [01:07:04] | ragawu: | was that a stoopid thing to do |
| [01:07:11] | ragawu: | go on, I can take it |
| [01:07:26] | ragawu: | slap me |
| [01:07:29] | Juski: | are you currently running on 0.19 ? |
| [01:07:44] | ragawu: | that's the $1000000 question |
| [01:07:48] | ragawu: | how owuld I find out? |
| [01:07:50] | ragawu: | would |
| [01:08:02] | Juski: | trunk is the less stable of the svn branches ;-) |
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| [01:08:25] | Juski: | ragawu: where did you get the mythtv packages from? |
| [01:08:34] | ragawu: | I knew that but went ahead anyway, why am I such a fool |
| [01:08:38] | ragawu: | I compiled from source |
| [01:08:39] | D-side: | ugh. i cant figure this out. |
| [01:08:48] | Juski: | ragawu: what distro? |
| [01:08:54] | D-side: | i'll ask again later instead of just parroting here. |
| [01:09:03] | ragawu: | ubuntu |
| [01:09:24] | Juski: | do a mythfrontend --version |
| [01:09:39] | ragawu: | marvelous |
| [01:09:43] | opello: | D-side: what'd you break? :) |
| [01:10:53] | ragawu: | library api version 0.19.20060226–1 |
| [01:11:01] | ragawu: | source code: 9409 |
| [01:11:44] | ragawu: | I'm confused, 26 february is the date of some ubuntu packages of svn releases that I'd tried a weekago |
| [01:12:11] | ragawu: | but when I make install from the svn folder everything goes fine |
| [01:12:32] | D-side: | opello: this is justf'ed up. bad. |
| [01:12:48] | ragawu: | so I'm running .19, don't use EIT, see if that improves things... |
| [01:12:55] | Juski: | yup |
| [01:12:59] | D-side: | opello: i moved the mythtv partition out of xen. some recordings playback just fine. |
| [01:12:59] | Juski: | I reckon it will |
| [01:13:02] | ragawu: | fantastic |
| [01:13:18] | ragawu: | I feel like I've dragged myself one foot forward |
| [01:13:28] | ragawu: | (legs still caught up in barbed wire) |
| [01:13:39] | D-side: | opello: others when i try to play them show on the controlling term "connecting to server "$old_IP_address"" and fail. |
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| [01:14:31] | D-side: | and yes, thats a var i made up as an example. the machine's real IP is .252, and its old IP was .249 (the one the connection attempts to get to) |
| [01:14:56] | opello: | D-side: that's pretty odd, i just took a look and i see a 'hostname' field in recorded... |
| [01:15:17] | D-side: | yeah, i saw that too. the hostnames all resolve to the .252 now. |
| [01:15:26] | D-side: | i have no idea where its pulling the .249 ip from. |
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| [01:16:12] | ragawu: | 'Add Chanel ABC1...' yes no here we go again ;-) |
| [01:16:26] | opello: | D-side: maybe *cringe* reboot? heh |
| [01:16:57] | D-side: | i'm ALMOST willing to do that. :) |
| [01:16:58] | opello: | odd that some would work though – doesn't sound like it'd be cached |
| [01:17:14] | D-side: | yeah. i cant find a correlation either. |
| [01:17:22] | opello: | maybe see if it's in arp or something, is there a system level 'gethostbyname' or dns cache? |
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| [01:17:58] | opello: | or bind the old ip *and* the new ip to the nic :) |
| [01:18:16] | D-side: | i thought about that, but you cant have mythbackend listening on both ips. :) |
| [01:18:33] | D-side: | besides. i mean, holy shit. |
| [01:18:50] | opello: | you restarted the frontend and the backend? |
| [01:18:53] | D-side: | round hole + square peg + gigantic hammer |
| [01:18:55] | D-side: | yeah. |
| [01:20:57] | D-side: | think i'm barking up the wrong tree by looking to the db as the cause of this? |
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| [01:22:51] | ragawu: | Juski: do you happen to reccomend a good write up on configuring radiotimes with dvb in .19 mythtv? |
| [01:23:08] | ragawu: | I've been using one particualr to ubuntu, but it seems fairly outdated |
| [01:23:12] | Juski: | ragawu: it's quite easy |
| [01:23:23] | ragawu: | I really hope so Juski |
| [01:23:26] | Juski: | first of all run tv_grab_uk_rt --configure |
| [01:23:50] | ragawu: | so don't add the source in mythtv-setup yet? |
| [01:23:54] | Juski: | only tell it channels you _want_.. when you're done, exit out of it |
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| [01:24:13] | Juski: | ragawu: add a new source anyway – call it something memorable |
| [01:24:17] | ragawu: | ok |
| [01:24:25] | Juski: | then bind it to the tuner card(s) |
| [01:24:44] | ragawu: | but just cancel its automatic tv_grab_uk_rt execution in the terminal window? |
| [01:24:57] | ragawu: | sorry to be so needy |
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| [01:24:59] | Juski: | no, no need |
| [01:25:19] | Juski: | go through it but only give it channels you actually _want_ |
| [01:25:27] | ragawu: | do it there then , or both? |
| [01:25:33] | ragawu: | cool, done that |
| [01:25:33] | Juski: | do it there |
| [01:25:36] | Ryushin: | Has anyone heard of why video playback would be in reversed colors. I don't have that filter enabled that reverses the color. |
| [01:25:43] | ragawu: | sorry mate.... |
| [01:25:51] | Juski: | np ragawu |
| [01:25:56] | ragawu: | :-) |
| [01:26:18] | ragawu: | I've bound it to to the card |
| [01:26:28] | Juski: | right... so now you can enter the xmltvids into the channel editor.. mythweb is prolly quickest |
| [01:27:14] | Juski: | that didn't take long to configure the channels you want into tv_grab_uk_rt, btw |
| [01:27:17] | Ryushin: | Even the OSD color is in reverse. |
| [01:27:35] | ragawu: | I was doing it before you mentioned it |
| [01:27:42] | Juski: | oh right |
| [01:27:52] | ragawu: | I need to get mythweb running ,bear with me, and merci beaucoup |
| [01:28:31] | Juski: | entering the xmltvids (the correct ones) is a real PITA.... but it can be made easier by looking in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids ;-) |
| [01:28:51] | Juski: | maybe it's /usr/local/share/.... on your system though |
| [01:29:25] | Juski: | when you've got all the xmltvids entered, you should just be able to run mythfilldatabase as the user mythbackend runs as |
| [01:29:41] | Juski: | (as the user you ran mythtv-setup as) |
| [01:29:59] | Juski: | and that should be it |
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| [01:30:05] | ragawu: | I justgot this while installing mythweb: |
| [01:30:09] | ragawu: | WARNING: old MythTV binaries found â |
| [01:30:09] | ragawu: | â â |
| [01:30:09] | ragawu: | â It appears that you have installed mythtv from source previously, and â |
| [01:30:09] | ragawu: | â some files remain from the previous installation, including at least: â |
| [01:30:09] | ragawu: | â â |
| [01:30:10] | ragawu: | â /usr/local/bin/mythfilldatabase /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend â |
| [01:30:12] | ragawu: | â /usr/local/bin/mythbackend |
| [01:30:19] | ragawu: | oh sorry about that though it would be formatted |
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| [01:30:34] | Juski: | ragawu: use a pastebin for more than 3 lines in future |
| [01:30:56] | Juski: | I'm off to bed now... xmltv configuring should work out as easy as I've said anyway |
| [01:31:04] | Juski: | nighty night |
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| [01:31:15] | ragawu: | thanks very much |
| [01:31:18] | ragawu: | nightnight |
| [01:31:33] | ragawu: | pastebin it is |
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| [01:34:34] | vlim: | hello |
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| [01:47:06] | atomjack: | anyone know why i would be getting this error on my frontend? "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:". I am absolutely positive that the frontend and backend are running the same versions |
| [01:47:20] | atomjack: | they both report 0.19.20060226–1 |
| [01:47:23] | atomjack: | and svn version 9424 |
| [01:48:19] | kormoc: | atomjack, did you restart the backend? |
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| [01:49:30] | atomjack: | yep |
| [01:49:36] | atomjack: | fuck i've recompiled it even |
| [01:50:07] | atomjack: | i've tried switching between 0.19 release and the latest svn and now both do that (yes, i am installing the same ones on the front and back ends each time) |
| [01:51:42] | atomjack: | ok |
| [01:51:45] | atomjack: | that's weird, all of a sudden it works now |
| [01:51:55] | atomjack: | i did a restart, but i had done stops and starts earlier and no dice |
| [01:51:55] | atomjack: | weird |
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| [01:55:24] | djohnson: | Can anyone help me get the right permissions set on my /dev/video0 device? It keeps mounting as crw------- with my "default" account as the owner. I'd like it to be rw by the group as well. |
| [01:55:32] | djohnson: | Is it in modprobe that it should be set somewhere? |
| [01:59:57] | UBL: | atomjack, i got the same error |
| [02:00:02] | UBL: | grrrrrr |
| [02:00:10] | UBL: | but it was working last night |
| [02:01:37] | UBL: | how do you know what svn version you have? |
| [02:02:14] | UBL: | ok, i restarted my backend i it works now |
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| [02:03:26] | atomjack: | yeah |
| [02:03:29] | jd86: | hrm |
| [02:03:30] | atomjack: | you have to do a restart i guess |
| [02:03:35] | atomjack: | you can start the front and back ends with --version |
| [02:03:40] | atomjack: | actually it doesnt start em it just shows the version |
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| [02:04:59] | dooder: | I seem to have finally got most of it up and running. my channels are off by one. I've tried 'default' and 'us-cable' but both have the same problem. any ideas ? |
| [02:05:50] | vlim: | hi can I use the same xmltvid on multiple channels? |
| [02:06:31] | dscoular`: | vlim: yes... but I'm not sure why you'd want to do it. |
| [02:06:40] | vlim: | why is that? |
| [02:06:54] | kormoc: | dscoular`, he just wants all the channels to be the same, tis all |
| [02:07:03] | atomjack: | haha |
| [02:07:07] | vlim: | I have multiple instances of the same channel at dif frequencies |
| [02:07:20] | vlim: | and dif levels of signal strength |
| [02:07:22] | dscoular`: | Ah... |
| [02:07:48] | dscoular`: | Then... yes, I don't think there are any problems with having multiple repeated xmltvids |
| [02:08:06] | vlim: | thats what i thought but buggered if I can get the guide data to appear |
| [02:08:37] | vlim: | actually thinking about it now, perhaps i need to force an update to --file option |
| [02:08:43] | vlim: | of mythfilldatabase |
| [02:08:45] | dscoular`: | Does the guide data appear for the existing channels with xmltvids ? |
| [02:08:57] | vlim: | yes |
| [02:09:02] | vlim: | but not the new ones |
| [02:09:32] | vlim: | I know I have made this work before, but I seem to have had a brain explosion |
| [02:09:54] | dscoular`: | Yeah... mythfilldatabase can be a bit of a pain sometimes. |
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| [02:11:32] | jd86: | is there any form of plugin in the works (or already there) to watch online (web) tv (like news feeds and bbc and stuff) |
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| [02:13:21] | dscoular`: | jd86: You can just use associations in mythvideo |
| [02:13:33] | jd86: | hmm |
| [02:13:36] | jd86: | haven't thought about that... |
| [02:13:42] | jd86: | but where would i add them? |
| [02:13:56] | dscoular`: | I associate .txt with mplayer with special args for receiving bbc. |
| [02:14:05] | dscoular`: | You do this in the video manager |
| [02:14:50] | dscoular`: | mplayer -cache 8192 -f -playlist %s |
| [02:14:58] | fatmatt: | Not sure if the noise is worse or better now... just cleaned out a lot of dust. It a HP power supply in there, not really something I want to mess with |
| [02:15:16] | dscoular`: | %s gets substituted by the name of the .txt file. |
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| [02:15:49] | jd86: | dscoular`: thanks for the help :) i will do |
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| [02:16:11] | jd86: | now its too bad that there isn't some site that catelogs all of the playlists for online tv |
| [02:16:30] | dscoular`: | My .txt file contains: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/news/olmedia/n5ctrl/tv . . . st/latest.rm |
| [02:16:39] | dscoular`: | But that doesn't work anymore. |
| [02:16:55] | jd86: | i'll have to do some research |
| [02:16:56] | dscoular`: | jd86: I'm sure there must be one. |
| [02:16:58] | jd86: | what about online music? |
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| [02:17:06] | jd86: | could the music thing be modified to do taht? |
| [02:17:30] | dscoular`: | jd86: there is the unofficial mythstream module (if I remember correctly) |
| [02:18:15] | jd86: | i found it |
| [02:19:17] | jd86: | thanks alot for the help it would ahve taken me ages to figure that out about the mythvideo |
| [02:19:50] | dooder: | got it |
| [02:20:13] | MooglyGuy: | Just out of curiosity, what was the last version of NVidia drivers to support the GeForce 2 GTS? I installed 7676 as recommended here – http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#update – and now X is screaming that it's "supported through the NVIDIA Legacy drivers" and that it "will ignore this GPU". |
| [02:20:34] | MooglyGuy: | The error message refers me to http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html, which helpfully tells me NOTHING. |
| [02:20:48] | MooglyGuy: | And when I go to the page that has older versions of the drivers, it helpfully tells me NOTHING about what the last version was. |
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| [02:29:03] | MooglyGuy: | 7174, apparently. Thanks, guys! |
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| [02:39:07] | TheRiddler: | hey all.. anyone have any cycles to help me with a live tv audio issue? I have checked the archive.. but nothing is ringing true as the Particular issue. |
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| [02:41:55] | JeffATL2: | Once a video card has been created in mythtv-setup, is there any provision to remove it other than removing ALL video cards? |
| [02:42:17] | TheRiddler: | you mean in mythtvsetup JeffATL2? |
| [02:42:27] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: yes |
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| [02:42:53] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: er – no, mythtv-setup |
| [02:42:57] | TheRiddler: | yeah with the listing of the cards simply select the one you want to get rid of.. and use the key "D" on your keyboard. that will delete it |
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| [02:43:10] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: should work there too |
| [02:43:46] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: little bit of a human factors problem there – thx |
| [02:44:11] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: ? did that work? |
| [02:44:52] | MooglyGuy: | Are there any yum repos that have mythcontrols-0.19–121.rhfc4.at.i386.rpm that you guys can recommend? Apparently none of the repos suggested by this guide – http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#update – have it. |
| [02:44:58] | MooglyGuy: | And it's causing yum install mythtv-suite to fail. |
| [02:45:09] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: yes, thanks |
| [02:46:39] | TheRiddler: | Maybe someone can help me... I just installed another PVR-250 and set them both to use the Tuner input.. alls good there... but I dont get any audio on Live TV or New Recordings.. |
| [02:47:24] | JeffATL2: | okay, here's my larger problem – ordinarily i want the PVR-150 card to take input from the tuiner but other times – like now – i want to "rip" a tape from a VCR and use the composite input. do i set up a new "video source"? |
| [02:48:37] | JeffATL2: | using the same "card"? |
| [02:50:26] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: You probably want to add an item to "input Connections" under mythtv-setup with a special Video Source |
| [02:51:07] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: so, i start by adding a video source, right? |
| [02:51:32] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: well thats the tricky part.. Video Source is your channels.. |
| [02:51:46] | MooglyGuy: | Oh, I see – I must be using one of those invisible nicknames or something. |
| [02:52:10] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: An easier way would be to simply change the input of your card via ivtvctl -p blah.. |
| [02:52:25] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: Then do a Manual record |
| [02:53:18] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: I'd really prefer to change between the two in the mythtv interface – that was going to be my next questions |
| [02:53:26] | JeffATL2: | question rather |
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| [02:53:28] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: so at the prompt something like "ivtvctl -p 8 |
| [02:54:04] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: well thats not too hard to do.. you have a key command built into myth to change inputs.. let me get it sec |
| [02:54:40] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: "C" http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 |
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| [02:55:18] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: That should give you the option to switch inputs but you would have to plug your audio in manually |
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| [02:56:40] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: i'd hope that switching to composite input also switches the audio from the tuner to the two RCA jacks next to that composute vid input jack |
| [02:58:26] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: I believe it does.. but that may be the same problem I am currently dealing with ;-) |
| [02:58:46] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: I just changed from composite to Tuner after adding a new card |
| [03:01:06] | cout: | why would I be getting an audio echo in my recordings? |
| [03:01:45] | TheRiddler: | Cout: possibly cause you might be recording from your Line as well as from the regular audio source. |
| [03:01:46] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: ok, ivtvctl seems to have a separate option for setting audio source – -q |
| [03:02:23] | cout: | theriddler: I don't have anything connected to line in |
| [03:03:41] | TheRiddler: | Cout: Then I am at a loss, In looking for a resolution for my own issue.. I found alot of talks about echo issues on the archives.. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . rch_type=AND |
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| [03:04:19] | cout: | theriddler: you also hear echo? |
| [03:05:26] | JeffATL2: | okay, i see any manner of mythfrontend optioins for scheduling recordings but nothing where i can tell it, start recording right now!" |
| [03:06:05] | TheRiddler: | cout: no, but since I added another card and changed inputs to tuner.. I am not getting any audio for Live TV.. so I was looking through lots of Audio lists |
| [03:06:15] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: sec let me check |
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| [03:07:30] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: Schedule Recordings -> Manual Schedule |
| [03:08:32] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: still looking into to how to change input for that.. sec |
| [03:08:37] | MooglyGuy: | Right. |
| [03:10:58] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: hmm i dont know if there is a way to choose the input when scheduling manually.. I am pretty sure you could watch the recording and choose the input with "C" at that time |
| [03:13:06] | adam613: | hm, i guess im not the only one having audio issues... |
| [03:13:23] | adam613: | i don't get any sound when i run mythtv |
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| [03:13:33] | adam613: | i suspect that my audio in isn't working at all |
| [03:13:39] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: it seems like myth wants to switch to the default input anytime you engage any input at all,, e.i., Watch TV |
| [03:13:39] | adam613: | is there an easy way to test that? |
| [03:13:58] | TheRiddler: | adam613: yeah sec. |
| [03:14:13] | TheRiddler: | adam613: try /usr/bin/aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav |
| [03:14:13] | adam613: | k. no hurry, my roommate is watching normal tv :-p |
| [03:14:19] | adam613: | my audio out works fine |
| [03:14:21] | JeffATL2: | and i'm sorry, but Scedule Manual ain't cuttin' it from the UI standpoint... |
| [03:14:28] | adam613: | i can watch movies, play snes9x, etc |
| [03:14:35] | TheRiddler: | adam613: just for live tv? |
| [03:14:41] | adam613: | yeah |
| [03:15:03] | adam613: | i have a cable running from the composite audio out on my cable box to the line in jack on my sound card |
| [03:15:07] | TheRiddler: | adam613: me too :-( I am under the impression it might have to do with my audio cards input.. checking alsa mixer now |
| [03:15:34] | TheRiddler: | adam613: what card? and what tv input? |
| [03:16:02] | adam613: | the tv input is svideo |
| [03:16:22] | adam613: | i tried two cards: onboard via8237 and soundblaster live |
| [03:16:47] | TheRiddler: | adam613: err what PVR card? and what input on it? |
| [03:17:13] | adam613: | its something i got out of an old dell. bt848 chipset |
| [03:17:18] | adam613: | using the svideo input |
| [03:17:26] | adam613: | but i also tried composite |
| [03:17:41] | adam613: | i cant use the coaxial one because i have digital cab le |
| [03:17:50] | TheRiddler: | adam613: then (if it has an audio input) you might want to plug direct from your cable box to the bt848 |
| [03:19:53] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: it seems that hitting the "R" key while watching TV after using ivtvctl to switch the input does something – the text comes up on the screen saying something like "Recording <show name from listings>" |
| [03:20:09] | JeffATL2: | which it shouldn't do, seeing as it's set to record from composite |
| [03:21:11] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: when you run the ivtvctl -p ? |
| [03:22:21] | adam613: | i tried using the coax out cableto plug into the tv card, but i just got static for the video |
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| [03:23:31] | TheRiddler: | adam613: Keep using svideo.. but plug in the RCA audio outputs from your cable box to the audio inputs on the bt848 (if it has them) |
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| [03:24:10] | Russ: | how do I disable the stupid thing where it starts recording livetv as if it were a show? |
| [03:24:47] | adam613: | the bt848 doesnt have audio input |
| [03:24:50] | TheRiddler: | Russ: i think thats an automatic function.. I dont know if you can remove it. |
| [03:24:51] | adam613: | it has audio output |
| [03:25:00] | Russ: | I think it upped my channel change time by quite a bit, and its really noisy in the logs. I think its filling up my diskspace up to the 1G remaining, atwhich point,the rest is filled with 1GB of logs telling me I have no more space |
| [03:25:09] | Russ: | TheRiddler: but its implementation sucks |
| [03:25:40] | TheRiddler: | Russ: Under Setup inside Mythtv you can change the size of the Live TV buffer. |
| [03:29:56] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: Russ : I think that's what may have happened to me here – i managed to make a recording from the VCR via composite in, but it was prefaced by stuff i didn't think i'd recorded. |
| [03:31:17] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: i think thats going to be hard unfortunately to avoid.. unless you change your input before recording from the vcr via ivtvctl -p |
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| [03:33:59] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: whether i change before or after the recording, it seems to record stuff that's been buffered *before* i told it to record by hitting "R", and then it gives the recording the name of whatever show it's getting off the tuner – very annoying |
| [03:34:49] | JeffATL2: | you know, since I have a MPEG-2 hardware-encoding card, can't i go cat /dev/video0 > filename.mpg? |
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| [03:36:06] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: yes you can after you change the input. |
| [03:36:28] | JeffATL2: | TheRiddler: any way i can watch what's going in at the same time? |
| [03:37:28] | GreyFoxx: | split the cable and watch it on your TV at the same time ?:) |
| [03:37:36] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: good question.. I am not sure.. you might be able to pipe the feed in 2 places.. but I havent tried it.. ie: mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0 > filename.mpg |
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| [03:39:20] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: on second thought I doubt that would work |
| [03:39:27] | GreyFoxx: | it wouldn't |
| [03:39:36] | GreyFoxx: | you'd just get the mplayer output in filename.mpg |
| [03:39:38] | TheRiddler: | trying to do too much at once guys.. sorry. |
| [03:39:57] | TheRiddler: | during all this trying to fix my issue too :-P |
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| [03:44:30] | Yellow-Snow: | someone PLEASE tell me why this is happening??? |
| [03:44:31] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.members.cox.net/danielarbour/DSC00589.JPG |
| [03:45:17] | MooglyGuy: | Yellow-Snow: Good luck with that, I've yet to hear anyone even acknowledge my presence let alone my question. |
| [03:45:52] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy I love you? |
| [03:45:54] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [03:46:21] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy whats your question — maybe people didn't see it... |
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| [03:46:57] | MooglyGuy: | Well, that's quite comforting! Enough to let me know of a repo apart from atprms that has all 94 (or however many) mythtv packages? I'm using atrpms, but it can't find mythcontrols-0.19–121.rhfc4.at.i386.rpm, which is causing yum install mythtv-suite to fail. |
| [03:47:33] | JeffATL2: | um – I don't think my frint end is doing anything, but i've got an mpg file in my video store area that's growing about 1.5MB/sec |
| [03:48:39] | Achew22: | http://dl.atrpms.net/all/mythcontrols-0.19-121.rhfc4.at.i386.rpm there you go your rpm |
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| [03:49:08] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.members.cox.net/danielarbour/DSC00589.JPG |
| [03:49:10] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy does that make you happy :D |
| [03:49:11] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: you can stop the recording and use mplayer to check the file.. then start over |
| [03:49:30] | Achew22: | Yellow-Snow whats wrong in that picture? |
| [03:49:40] | Yellow-Snow: | the lines across the screen.. 2 of them |
| [03:49:45] | Yellow-Snow: | they keep going up |
| [03:49:47] | Yellow-Snow: | and start over |
| [03:49:56] | Achew22: | thats a refresh rate issue |
| [03:50:02] | Achew22: | thats an issue with xorg |
| [03:50:10] | Yellow-Snow: | why did it just start? |
| [03:50:17] | Achew22: | did you play with the settings? |
| [03:50:20] | Yellow-Snow: | nope |
| [03:50:24] | Achew22: | check them anyways |
| [03:50:39] | Achew22: | the refresh rate isn't very much different — maybe you gave it a range to stay in |
| [03:50:50] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy are you there? |
| [03:50:51] | MooglyGuy: | Achew22: Thanks much! |
| [03:50:57] | Achew22: | any time |
| [03:51:05] | MooglyGuy: | Wait. |
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| [03:51:05] | Achew22: | i'm a master googler... |
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| [03:51:11] | MooglyGuy: | I can't seem to connect to it. |
| [03:51:19] | Achew22: | hrm... |
| [03:51:22] | JeffATL2: | i had to stop the backend to keep that file from growing – i dduno wow this happened |
| [03:51:23] | MooglyGuy: | Which makes sense, since I specified "apart from atrpms" for that very reason. |
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| [03:52:15] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy I have mirrored the file on my server — http://dl.atrpms.net/all/mythcontrols-0.19-121.rhfc4.at.i386.rpm |
| [03:52:16] | Achew22: | oops |
| [03:52:22] | Achew22: | http://achew22.com/mythcontrols-0.19-121.rhfc4.at.i386.rpm |
| [03:52:24] | TheRiddler: | JeffATL2: did you still have the manual scheduled recording going? |
| [03:53:47] | Achew22: | what is the firmware directory in gentoo with IVTV 0.4.3 |
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| [03:54:35] | Yellow-Snow: | WTF |
| [03:54:36] | Yellow-Snow: | now its gone |
| [03:54:41] | Yellow-Snow: | .... |
| [03:54:44] | Achew22: | muahahah!!! |
| [03:54:48] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont get it |
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| [03:54:57] | Achew22: | knowing what the problem is mysteriously fixes it yet again! |
| [03:55:01] | Yellow-Snow: | i unplugged the power tho |
| [03:55:08] | Yellow-Snow: | no clue |
| [03:55:09] | Achew22: | it could have been interference |
| [03:55:12] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
| [03:55:18] | Yellow-Snow: | thats what iw as thinking.. some wire causing it |
| [03:55:51] | Achew22: | I had my box 2 ' from tv and it made it FREAK out |
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| [03:55:58] | Achew22: | it was fun to watch tv like that |
| [03:56:27] | Yellow-Snow: | mines like that |
| [03:56:29] | Yellow-Snow: | right now |
| [03:56:39] | Yellow-Snow: | b/c im working on it |
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| [03:57:22] | Achew22: | sorry for not seeing that in the picture, I thought it was the same effect as when you take a picture of a computer monitor and it has 2 lines because of sync rates that aren't quite in sync with the camera |
| [03:57:35] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
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| [03:58:58] | Achew22: | why does mythtv have a dependancy for cups? |
| [03:59:09] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [03:59:24] | Achew22: | I emerged mythtv and its now dling cups |
| [03:59:40] | Beirdo: | why don't you go figure it out :) |
| [03:59:47] | adam613: | try emerge -pvt mythtv |
| [03:59:49] | adam613: | it will show a tree |
| [03:59:55] | Achew22: | okay.. one min |
| [03:59:57] | Beirdo: | just what I was typing in |
| [03:59:59] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:59:59] | adam613: | probably something mythtv depends on is using cups |
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| [04:00:31] | adam613: | here: |
| [04:00:34] | adam613: | mythtv requires qt |
| [04:00:40] | Beirdo: | figure out what's sucking it in. It's not mythtv directly... if it is, slap Cardoe around a bit |
| [04:00:48] | Achew22: | adam613 do you use gentoo? |
| [04:00:49] | adam613: | qt supports the cups USE flag |
| [04:00:52] | adam613: | yes |
| [04:00:54] | Achew22: | no we don't slap him around.... |
| [04:00:55] | adam613: | since the beginning |
| [04:01:00] | Beirdo: | ah, could well be qt |
| [04:01:03] | Achew22: | I have a question about ivtv could you help me? |
| [04:01:04] | adam613: | it is |
| [04:01:14] | adam613: | i dont know about ivtv :( |
| [04:01:18] | Achew22: | shucks |
| [04:01:22] | adam613: | sorry |
| [04:01:26] | adam613: | im a mythtv newbie |
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| [04:01:45] | Achew22: | meh — if you have used linux at all you are better than me. Mythtv is my 1st reason to install linux |
| [04:01:50] | adam613: | if you add -cups to your use flag, qt wont build against it |
| [04:01:56] | Achew22: | so I did and now I'm on the learning curve |
| [04:02:07] | adam613: | you picked a tough distro to start with... |
| [04:02:08] | Achew22: | its okay — I already dled it and got it installed |
| [04:02:32] | adam613: | you have myrespect :) |
| [04:02:50] | Achew22: | I appreciate that... but I still don't have my gf's respect which means i'm a looser ;) |
| [04:03:11] | adam613: | as long as she's still dating you... :) |
| [04:03:14] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:03:17] | Achew22: | heh |
| [04:03:26] | Beirdo: | you HAVE a gf, that makes you less of a loser than many |
| [04:03:33] | Achew22: | good point |
| [04:03:37] | adam613: | no kidding |
| [04:03:37] | Achew22: | and I haven't ever seen startrech |
| [04:03:41] | Achew22: | no h |
| [04:03:44] | Achew22: | startrec |
| [04:04:38] | Beirdo: | I can't wait until DST is back |
| [04:04:40] | adam613: | anyway, emerge -vt is your friend |
| [04:04:47] | adam613: | it will show you a tree listing of dependencies |
| [04:04:48] | Beirdo: | this stupid time difference SUCKS |
| [04:04:50] | adam613: | along with use flags |
| [04:04:52] | Beirdo: | -pvt |
| [04:04:58] | adam613: | or -avt |
| [04:04:59] | Beirdo: | don't forget that p :) |
| [04:05:08] | adam613: | i like -a |
| [04:05:09] | Beirdo: | yes, or a :) |
| [04:05:16] | Beirdo: | -vt will be painful :) |
| [04:05:20] | adam613: | why DST? do you live in in? |
| [04:05:22] | adam613: | IN rather? |
| [04:05:26] | Beirdo: | no |
| [04:05:41] | Beirdo: | I'm in EST5EDT, and my fiancee is in AST4 |
| [04:05:45] | adam613: | oh oops |
| [04:05:48] | Achew22: | will you look at this http://pastebin.com/613734 |
| [04:05:53] | Beirdo: | and EDT = AST |
| [04:05:59] | adam613: | right |
| [04:06:02] | adam613: | i used to live in eastern IN |
| [04:06:10] | adam613: | we got all of the tv shows twice during the summer |
| [04:06:22] | adam613: | cuz IN was EST, and OH was EST5EDT |
| [04:06:31] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [04:06:34] | Beirdo: | a good guess :) |
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| [04:06:57] | adam613: | so we'd get the simpsons from the dayton station at 7 and the indianapolis station at 8 |
| [04:07:18] | Beirdo: | you got Dayton over the air? |
| [04:07:21] | Beirdo: | that's a LONG way |
| [04:07:26] | Beirdo: | or was that cable? |
| [04:07:53] | adam613: | dayton is pretty far west |
| [04:08:08] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [04:08:10] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [04:08:12] | adam613: | only about 90 miles from where we lived |
| [04:08:13] | Beirdo: | my brain sucks |
| [04:08:46] | adam613: | achew22: it looks like there's a problem with your linux headers |
| [04:08:51] | adam613: | are you using stable packages? |
| [04:08:51] | Beirdo: | I was thinking Akron for some stupid reason |
| [04:08:55] | adam613: | and what arch? |
| [04:09:00] | Achew22: | how should I fix that? |
| [04:09:08] | Achew22: | yeah I have stable |
| [04:09:14] | adam613: | x86 or amd64? |
| [04:09:18] | Achew22: | i686 |
| [04:09:47] | Beirdo: | 2 weeks until DST :) |
| [04:09:49] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [04:09:54] | adam613: | woo |
| [04:10:20] | D-side: | haha i'm a twit. |
| [04:10:29] | Beirdo: | we knew that, D-side :) |
| [04:10:31] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:10:33] | Achew22: | adam613 do you have any idea how to fix it |
| [04:10:37] | Beirdo: | welcome back |
| [04:10:46] | adam613: | not off the top of my head, but im looking at google |
| [04:10:50] | D-side: | Beirdo: well thanks. |
| [04:11:07] | D-side: | i've been chasing down a problem that i knew damn well i caused, but i just found it. |
| [04:11:11] | D-side: | and i feel like an ass. :D |
| [04:11:14] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:11:22] | Beirdo: | I know that feeling |
| [04:11:43] | D-side: | i take solace in the fact that its purely a silly sql thing, and i'm useless with sql. |
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| [04:13:55] | adam613: | hm |
| [04:14:05] | TheRiddler: | Anyone know of anything I check? I just installed another PVR-250 in my machine and changed the original input from composite to tuner as well as the 2nd pvr-250.. all is good.. but I cant hear anything in live tv or new recordings |
| [04:14:20] | adam613: | achew22: no idea. either there's something wrong with your headers or your kernel configuration |
| [04:14:46] | Beirdo: | adam613, BTW, IN is doing DST starting this year, apparently |
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| [04:16:41] | adam613: | thats what i heard |
| [04:16:42] | adam613: | crazy stuff |
| [04:17:15] | Beirdo: | and about time |
| [04:17:16] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:17:20] | adam613: | yes |
| [04:17:31] | Beirdo: | that was one screwed up state :) |
| [04:17:40] | adam613: | still is :) |
| [04:17:52] | Beirdo: | but slightly less now :) |
| [04:18:00] | adam613: | lol. my roommate just tripped over my eth wire |
| [04:18:34] | adam613: | hes like, "why do you need this wire anyway?" me: "try copying movies to the linux box over the wireless and you'll see" |
| [04:18:50] | Achew22: | run it under the carpet |
| [04:18:54] | adam613: | no carpet |
| [04:19:00] | Achew22: | hard wood? |
| [04:19:04] | Beirdo: | huhuhu |
| [04:19:08] | Beirdo: | that's a bit personal |
| [04:19:26] | Achew22: | heh i guess |
| [04:19:27] | eleazar123: | anybody in here running samba on a server for their mythbox to access for videos? I need to see a working .conf for smb, b/c i can't get mine workin :( |
| [04:19:34] | Achew22: | I am cool and I do that |
| [04:19:41] | Achew22: | I'll look at it — put it on pastebin |
| [04:19:43] | D-side: | eleazar123: dont be so defeatist. |
| [04:19:56] | D-side: | with hard work and a good dose of RTFM, you'll get it going. |
| [04:19:57] | D-side: | :D |
| [04:20:12] | adam613: | copy the examples |
| [04:20:15] | adam613: | samba has good examples |
| [04:20:19] | Achew22: | ugg... 17mb for samba! |
| [04:20:26] | adam613: | and be more specific about what isnt working |
| [04:20:27] | Beirdo: | that reminds me |
| [04:20:49] | Beirdo: | I should start up samba on my rebuilt fileserver |
| [04:20:51] | Achew22: | damnit.. I hate compiling qt... |
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| [04:21:02] | adam613: | yeah, qt is annoying |
| [04:21:08] | adam613: | it takes much longer than it should |
| [04:21:14] | Achew22: | in a min or 2 its going to get to kde which will make me cry |
| [04:21:23] | adam613: | heh |
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| [04:21:33] | adam613: | the first box on which i built linux was a p3 |
| [04:21:37] | Achew22: | I have 3 ssh windows open + the console |
| [04:21:39] | adam613: | and i didnt know any better thanto use kde |
| [04:21:43] | adam613: | it took 16 hours |
| [04:21:45] | Beirdo: | haha |
| [04:21:46] | eleazar123: | well i was hoping to see a good .conf for samba to be my example, instead of reading 100pages of manual, i just need an unsecured samba share for the mythbox to see, not some complex thing to use over multiple networks or even for windows to access |
| [04:21:58] | Beirdo: | first here: 386DX-40 with 4MB RAM |
| [04:22:06] | adam613: | dont use samba if you arent using windows |
| [04:22:07] | adam613: | use nfs |
| [04:22:14] | Beirdo: | for sure |
| [04:22:19] | adam613: | its easier to configure and performs much better |
| [04:22:19] | Beirdo: | nfsv3 or v4 |
| [04:22:24] | Beirdo: | not v2, not v1 |
| [04:22:34] | adam613: | yeah, what beirdo said |
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| [04:22:35] | Achew22: | adam613 my boss used kde 1.0 on a 233mhz computer and he was like "I started it when I went on a week vacation and it ended 2 days after I came back" |
| [04:22:38] | Anduin: | eleazar123 – most default smb.conf files have samples commented out in them |
| [04:22:43] | adam613: | haha |
| [04:22:45] | adam613: | he wins |
| [04:22:51] | Achew22: | he is old... |
| [04:22:56] | eleazar123: | adam613 i tried, it was working perfectly then it stopped working, i had it mounting the nfs shares on boot, but the directories it was mounting to would be empty |
| [04:23:13] | atomjack: | anyone know why myth isn't saving the position when i exit from a recording? I have it set to save an exit, and it even says it's saving the position, but when i play the recording again it starts from the beginning |
| [04:23:16] | adam613: | make sure the permissions are set correctly |
| [04:23:17] | Beirdo: | on my first Linux box, a kernel compile took 36h |
| [04:23:23] | Achew22: | doesn't supprise me |
| [04:23:26] | Beirdo: | then you find out you fucked up |
| [04:23:30] | Beirdo: | and do it all over again |
| [04:23:37] | Achew22: | my first linux box didn't compile its kernel |
| [04:23:37] | adam613: | im not that oldschool |
| [04:23:44] | dscoular`: | atomjack: what version ? |
| [04:23:49] | atomjack: | 0.19 |
| [04:23:56] | Beirdo: | ACK! |
| [04:23:59] | Beirdo: | samba 3? |
| [04:24:03] | atomjack: | compiled it myself. it works in the latest svn although in the latest svn, i can't even record anything, doesn't work at all |
| [04:24:06] | Beirdo: | oh this will take me some time |
| [04:24:06] | adam613: | my first kernel took an hour to compile |
| [04:24:06] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:24:15] | adam613: | and it panicked |
| [04:24:15] | adam613: | :) |
| [04:24:21] | Achew22: | atomjack try the stable release |
| [04:24:27] | dscoular`: | Ok... there has been some mention of bookmarks not working with 0.19. |
| [04:24:33] | Achew22: | .19.1 isn't done yet so I'm waiting... |
| [04:24:40] | atomjack: | 0.19 isn't the stable release |
| [04:24:41] | atomjack: | ? |
| [04:24:50] | dscoular`: | Yeah... there is only the evolving 0.19-fixes at the moment. |
| [04:24:51] | adam613: | .18.1 is the stable release |
| [04:24:57] | atomjack: | oh |
| [04:24:58] | dscoular`: | exactly right |
| [04:24:59] | adam613: | in gentoo at least |
| [04:25:01] | Achew22: | well... its "stable" but not THAT stable |
| [04:25:02] | atomjack: | gah ok |
| [04:25:06] | atomjack: | right |
| [04:25:08] | adam613: | im using .19 and it works fine |
| [04:25:10] | adam613: | except mythgame |
| [04:25:19] | Achew22: | mythgame didn't work for me 1st compile too |
| [04:25:21] | atomjack: | adam613: do bookmarks work? |
| [04:25:26] | adam613: | havent tried |
| [04:25:30] | Achew22: | worked for me |
| [04:25:36] | adam613: | my tv has other problems |
| [04:25:40] | atomjack: | ahh |
| [04:25:50] | dscoular`: | Using svn is not going to give you stability unless it's for specific tags. |
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| [04:25:55] | Achew22: | atomjack what distro are you running? |
| [04:26:00] | atomjack: | FC3 |
| [04:26:17] | Achew22: | adam613 do you have any ideas for my ivtv issue? |
| [04:26:19] | atomjack: | bookmarks work in the latest svn but it can't record any HD stuff |
| [04:26:19] | dscoular`: | 0.19 + DVB + certain cards is problematic compared to 0.18.1 IMHO |
| [04:26:24] | atomjack: | ahh |
| [04:26:30] | atomjack: | yeah i have an hd-3000 using dvb |
| [04:26:44] | adam613: | achew11: no idea. its one of those things i'd have to mess with |
| [04:27:02] | adam613: | see if you can find out what kernel ppl use with it |
| [04:27:11] | Achew22: | can I emerge my kernel-sources? |
| [04:27:22] | adam613: | you can emerge earlier versions of the kernel |
| [04:27:33] | Achew22: | crap... |
| [04:27:38] | Achew22: | i am going to compile from source |
| [04:27:47] | adam613: | you didnt compile from source to start with? |
| [04:27:57] | Achew22: | sorry — source from their site |
| [04:28:15] | adam613: | there used to be a vanilla-sources package that was unpatched |
| [04:28:20] | adam613: | im not sure it still exists |
| [04:28:24] | Achew22: | it does |
| [04:28:27] | Achew22: | i was reading about it |
| [04:29:25] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [04:29:30] | Beirdo: | www.kernel.org |
| [04:29:36] | Beirdo: | screw emerge, do it right :) |
| [04:29:43] | adam613: | :-p |
| [04:29:48] | Achew22: | ut ohh Beirdo is giggling again... |
| [04:29:49] | adam613: | emerge usually works |
| [04:30:07] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [04:30:18] | adam613: | OYG |
| [04:30:23] | Beirdo: | I think my samba 2 config may be working with Samba 3 |
| [04:30:27] | Achew22: | OGG |
| [04:30:31] | adam613: | wtf |
| [04:30:39] | Beirdo: | betcha the PDC stuff ain't working right though |
| [04:30:45] | Achew22: | I thought we were making verations of O*G |
| [04:31:47] | adam613: | do athiests get insulted when someone says "omg"? |
| [04:32:04] | Achew22: | I'm an atheist and no... |
| [04:32:07] | adam613: | kgood |
| [04:32:57] | Achew22: | but i'm probably not a good probe — words are words and shouldn't really effect you that much. If I started spouting off ethnic slurs I would expect the person to shrug them off and not be all panzy about it... |
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| [04:33:14] | TheRiddler: | anyone have any insight into my issue? |
| [04:33:20] | Achew22: | what is it? |
| [04:33:26] | adam613: | i agree. but im paranoid, cuz last week i said "fuck" around a mormon |
| [04:33:43] | adam613: | i didnt realize that mormons were so against cuss words |
| [04:33:49] | Achew22: | meh — I have friends who go to seminary and I constantly call it "cemetary" |
| [04:34:20] | Achew22: | TheRiddler whats your question/issue? |
| [04:34:29] | Beirdo: | adam613, you learned fast though, I bet |
| [04:35:00] | adam613: | yup |
| [04:35:08] | Achew22: | I draw the line though with children present. Impressionable minds don't know how to shrugg things off so I don't temp them. |
| [04:35:19] | TheRiddler: | Anyone know of anything I check? I just installed another PVR-250 in my machine and changed the original input from composite to tuner as well as the 2nd pvr-250.. all is good.. but I cant hear anything in live tv or new recordings |
| [04:35:34] | Achew22: | clear your card settings |
| [04:35:45] | TheRiddler: | how do you clear the settings? |
| [04:35:56] | adam613: | run mythtv-setup and it will prompt you |
| [04:36:02] | TheRiddler: | ahh okay |
| [04:36:15] | Achew22: | TheRiddler when did you ask your question? |
| [04:36:45] | TheRiddler: | A LONG time ago |
| [04:36:52] | Achew22: | ohh man thats like 40+ lines ago |
| [04:37:04] | TheRiddler: | that iteration of it :-) |
| [04:37:26] | TheRiddler: | back before JeffATL was talking.. |
| [04:37:34] | Achew22: | samba is taking longer to compile than QT... thats really frustrating! Samba is supposed to be a not evil package... |
| [04:37:46] | adam613: | samba is evil for other reasons |
| [04:38:03] | Achew22: | just because it touches the windows world doesn't make it evil |
| [04:38:09] | adam613: | no |
| [04:38:17] | adam613: | but its a real pita to configure |
| [04:38:19] | Achew22: | its got good docs, its clean code, and it runs well. It does its job exceptionaly well — whats to hate? |
| [04:38:32] | Achew22: | there are gui configuration programs.... |
| [04:38:40] | adam613: | only if you have x11 |
| [04:38:48] | adam613: | and a decent window manager |
| [04:38:54] | adam613: | which im too lazy for |
| [04:39:03] | Achew22: | granted but i'll bet there is a text wizzard that does it too |
| [04:39:19] | Beirdo: | fcuk |
| [04:39:24] | TheRiddler: | Achew22: YOU ROCK.. omg i did everything but remove and add the cards again!! |
| [04:39:32] | adam613: | wooness |
| [04:39:45] | Achew22: | Yeah — and I'm sexy too... send me naked pictures of your girlfriend.... |
| [04:40:07] | adam613: | (here's how lazy i am...im mucking around in the source code cuz i cant figure out this damn mythgame problem) |
| [04:40:11] | adam613: | (:-p) |
| [04:40:14] | Achew22: | HAHAHA |
| [04:40:31] | Achew22: | whats your problem — I'm on a roll tonight, 3 for 3 |
| [04:40:42] | adam613: | it wont show any of my games in the selection screen |
| [04:40:52] | Achew22: | did you scan for them? |
| [04:40:55] | adam613: | yes |
| [04:40:59] | adam613: | they are all in the database |
| [04:41:09] | adam613: | and the select queries are returning the right thing |
| [04:41:14] | Achew22: | by the way this would be amazing if I fixed this because I haven't ever used mythgame |
| [04:41:25] | Achew22: | isn't it an xml file that holds the list? |
| [04:41:36] | adam613: | no, its a mysql table |
| [04:41:38] | ** MooglyGuy returns from an inconvenient AFK ** | |
| [04:41:52] | Achew22: | damn... looks like i'm going to loose this one |
| [04:41:55] | adam613: | this code is lacking in error checking |
| [04:41:58] | Achew22: | could it be a bug.... |
| [04:42:05] | Achew22: | is the code c or c++? |
| [04:42:14] | adam613: | there are a lot of function calls where the return value is uncaught |
| [04:42:15] | adam613: | c++ |
| [04:42:21] | MooglyGuy: | Hey Achew22, where do I put that RPM so that yum knows that I have it to be installed? |
| [04:42:22] | Achew22: | thats where the problem is |
| [04:42:31] | Achew22: | just execute the installer for the rpm... |
| [04:42:39] | MooglyGuy: | Yes, but what if it has dependencies? :P |
| [04:42:40] | Achew22: | install it then it wont be a unused dependancy |
| [04:43:12] | Achew22: | just install it.... if that doesn't fix it then come back |
| [04:43:37] | Achew22: | i'm 99%sure that willl fix the dependancy issue... or at least that one |
| [04:43:55] | adam613: | wtf is gContext??? |
| [04:44:08] | Achew22: | duno... |
| [04:44:20] | adam613: | oh duh its global |
| [04:44:30] | adam613: | arg, i dont program in C++ enough anymore |
| [04:44:35] | MooglyGuy: | Oh, looks like I was right. |
| [04:44:39] | MooglyGuy: | Failed dependencies: |
| [04:44:48] | Achew22: | but did this fix it? |
| [04:44:49] | Achew22: | adam613 gotta be carefull with that wtf shit — i'm morman ;) |
| [04:44:55] | Beirdo: | OK, there we go |
| [04:44:59] | MooglyGuy: | mythtv-frontend-api = 0.19 is needed by mythcontrols-0.19–121.rhfc4.at.i386 |
| [04:45:08] | adam613: | (23:32:05) Achew22: I'm an atheist and no... |
| [04:45:18] | Achew22: | i know... |
| [04:45:33] | MooglyGuy: | Yeah, adam613 |
| [04:45:39] | MooglyGuy: | He's just a reall bad mormon, that's all =) |
| [04:45:39] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:45:43] | Achew22: | you were talking about saying fuck infront of a mormon earlier ... [09:35:25pm] [adam613] i agree. but im paranoid, cuz last week i said "fuck" around a mormon |
| [04:45:48] | adam613: | yeah i know |
| [04:45:55] | Beirdo: | [2006/03/20 23:44:22, 0] printing/pcap.c:pcap_cache_reload(149) |
| [04:45:55] | Beirdo: | Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read! |
| [04:45:57] | Beirdo: | ooops |
| [04:46:02] | MooglyGuy: | What the hell does this mean? |
| [04:46:04] | Achew22: | I too can quote thigns you have said ;) |
| [04:46:08] | adam613: | i'll printcap you! |
| [04:46:11] | Achew22: | looks like your printing... |
| [04:46:11] | MooglyGuy: | Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: atrpms |
| [04:46:12] | Beirdo: | I guess I'll have to setup cups one of these days |
| [04:46:21] | Achew22: | or caping something... or some combination of the two |
| [04:46:24] | MooglyGuy: | failure: repodata/repomd.xml from atrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. |
| [04:46:34] | Achew22: | can someone help me with ivtv in gentoo |
| [04:46:37] | Beirdo: | I reinstalled the server, but haven't put all the services in yet |
| [04:47:21] | Achew22: | Beirdo are you a gentoo user? |
| [04:47:29] | Beirdo: | yes, but not for myth |
| [04:47:33] | Achew22: | darn |
| [04:47:45] | Beirdo: | most of my servers are ubuntu |
| [04:47:49] | Achew22: | really? |
| [04:47:50] | Beirdo: | my asterisk box is gentoo |
| [04:47:51] | Achew22: | why ubuntu? |
| [04:47:55] | Beirdo: | the PVR is FC1 |
| [04:47:58] | MooglyGuy: | Okay, this seems to be why the fuck I can't get to ATRPMS: |
| [04:48:01] | Beirdo: | because I like ubuntu |
| [04:48:10] | MooglyGuy: | 20 177 ms 182 ms 178 ms kr-fu-berlin.g-win.dfn.de [188.1.33.45] |
| [04:48:10] | MooglyGuy: | 21 177 ms 180 ms 180 ms physik.spine.fu-berlin.de [130.133.98.32] |
| [04:48:10] | MooglyGuy: | 22 * 178 ms 179 ms physik.spine.fu-berlin.de [130.133.98.32] |
| [04:48:10] | MooglyGuy: | 23 * * * Request timed out. |
| [04:49:04] | BigPeteB: | Sweet, Myth 0.19 is done compiling... |
| [04:49:22] | MooglyGuy: | Damn it, wasn't the Internet supposed to avoid crap like this? You know, the whole "redundant ways to get to a node" theory? |
| [04:49:35] | Achew22: | Beirdo thats as good a reason as any |
| [04:49:36] | MooglyGuy: | Or was that all just governmental grant-getting bullshit? |
| [04:49:41] | Achew22: | how many servers do you have Beirdo |
| [04:49:46] | adam613: | i fixed it!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!11oneone!!! |
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| [04:49:53] | GreyFoxx: | MooglyGuy: not every node has multiple connections :) |
| [04:50:01] | MooglyGuy: | GreyFoxx: Well, perhaps not., |
| [04:50:06] | GreyFoxx: | and even if they did |
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| [04:50:08] | MooglyGuy: | But that does little to mitigate the fact that it's annoying as hell. |
| [04:50:12] | GreyFoxx: | machines can go offline :) |
| [04:50:50] | MooglyGuy: | My general point is that obviously atrpms.net does not physically exist at physik.spine.fu-berlin.de, and I have to wonder if there isn't some way of routing packets to atrpms.net without going through physik.spine.fu-berlin.de :P |
| [04:50:55] | Achew22: | adam613 what was the probem? |
| [04:51:32] | MooglyGuy: | And if it does... well, damn it, I'm pissed, because nobody has yet suggested any repos that have the full mythtv 0.19 packages for FC4 i386 apart from atrpms. |
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| [04:51:47] | adam613: | there was a problem with my game handler |
| [04:52:02] | Achew22: | close your session MooglyGuy then reopen it and it will have a new mirror for the files |
| [04:52:06] | GreyFoxx: | Why would you say it's obivous? It is a German owned domain aftrerall :) |
| [04:52:06] | Achew22: | adam613 YAY! |
| [04:52:25] | MooglyGuy: | Achew22: I sure hope you're right. |
| [04:52:31] | MooglyGuy: | Just logout and relogin, you mean? |
| [04:52:47] | Achew22: | thats one way... but to really end the session you would have to end the browser |
| [04:53:00] | adam613: | ok, now how many game systems can i get to work? |
| [04:53:02] | MooglyGuy: | Who said anything about using a browser? |
| [04:53:08] | MooglyGuy: | I'm just trying to run yum install mythtv-suite, for god's sake. |
| [04:53:11] | Achew22: | and maybe even (if the server saves sessions off of cookies/ipaddresss) reboot |
| [04:53:26] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy the problem is that your running fedora |
| [04:53:29] | MooglyGuy: | Am I speaking English? |
| [04:53:44] | MooglyGuy: | Achew22, did it occur to you that I'm not fucking asking for suggestions on what fucking distro to run? |
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| [04:54:03] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy did it occur to you that we aren't in a bad mood and you shouldn't be either |
| [04:54:04] | MooglyGuy: | What is it with you Linux users and "x sucks, use y"? If I wanted to know what to use, I'd ask "hey, should I use y?" But no, I'm asking for help with x. |
| [04:54:16] | Achew22: | did I say use y? |
| [04:54:27] | MooglyGuy: | Yes, but you're doing quite a good job at putting me in a bad mood by not just giving me a straight answer. |
| [04:54:32] | MooglyGuy: | Well, "don't use x" implies "use y", yes. |
| [04:54:38] | Achew22: | I don't know the answer is the straight |
| [04:54:41] | DarkBeer: | i use x |
| [04:54:44] | Achew22: | but I'm going to try and help anyways |
| [04:54:48] | dscoular`: | :) |
| [04:54:49] | GreyFoxx: | I prefer z |
| [04:54:54] | dscoular`: | :) |
| [04:55:04] | Achew22: | I like m — its the most underused variable of all |
| [04:55:07] | MooglyGuy: | It's a total ghost-not, I know, but still. |
| [04:56:09] | Achew22: | I have no idea what to say to that |
| [04:56:39] | MooglyGuy: | If you're not an Alan Carter fan, you probably wouldn't. |
| [04:56:39] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [04:57:08] | DarkBeer: | what distro does Alan use? |
| [04:57:09] | GreyFoxx: | Who is Alan Carter ? |
| [04:57:29] | MooglyGuy: | DarkBeer: What the fuck does that have to do with anything? |
| [04:58:03] | DarkBeer: | KMA MooglyGuy. at least my fedora mythbox works |
| [04:58:03] | MooglyGuy: | GreyFoxx: Co-author of The Programmer's Stone, among other things. |
| [04:58:22] | Achew22: | MooglyGuy follow the mythfedora howto |
| [04:58:33] | MooglyGuy: | I AM FOLLOWING IT GOD DAMN IT |
| [04:58:39] | MooglyGuy: | JUST TELL ME A FUCKING ALTERNATIVE TO ATRPMS |
| [04:58:39] | Achew22: | wow dude... |
| [04:58:46] | MooglyGuy: | That's ALL I've ever asked for. |
| [04:58:48] | MooglyGuy: | That's IT. |
| [04:58:56] | Achew22: | |
| [04:58:58] | Achew22: | there you go |
| [04:58:59] | DarkBeer: | build from source |
| [04:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | MooglyGuy: you are assuming that someone who is currently active has one on hand to give you |
| [04:59:12] | GreyFoxx: | not all of us use rpm's |
| [04:59:14] | MooglyGuy: | I'm not asking for your children, I'm not asking for your mother's heart. |
| [04:59:15] | dscoular`: | MooglyGuy: you could use this page to choose a specific mirror: http://atrpms.net/mirrors/ |
| [04:59:17] | Beirdo: | w00t! |
| [04:59:19] | GreyFoxx: | nor fedora |
| [04:59:24] | Beirdo: | samba now behaving |
| [04:59:37] | Beirdo: | BARREL Barrel (Samba v3.0.14a-Ubuntu) |
| [04:59:37] | Beirdo: | PINT Pint (Samba v3.0.14a-2.0.2.kde) |
| [04:59:38] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:59:41] | MooglyGuy: | dscoular`, have you been paying attention to anything I've been saying? Anything at all? You know, the whole thing about the fact that I CAN'T EVEN ACCESS ATRPMS RIGHT NOW? |
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| [05:00:27] | ** D-side wonders if mythtv is something worth having a stroke over ** | |
| [05:00:28] | dscoular`: | MooglyGuy: if you access the mirrors directly you won't have the problem. |
| [05:00:28] | MooglyGuy: | God. Sorry. I'm just getting really worked up over nothing. |
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| [05:01:17] | dscoular`: | MooglyGuy: it sounds like atrpms.net is just a round robin or somesuch and if one of them is down... you will have the problem you are seeing. |
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| [05:01:30] | MooglyGuy: | I'm just upset that I sunk some $350 into a machine to get it up and running as a media PC, under the apparently highly mistaken assumption that it would be a relatively un-bumpy road to get to. I spent my entire weekend and now my entire evening trying to get it to work. |
| [05:01:53] | Achew22: | the fact that you assumed it would be un-bumpy was your first mistake... |
| [05:01:58] | dscoular`: | That is a mistaken assumption. Mythtv takes care and feeding and patience |
| [05:02:02] | Achew22: | everything is going to have its problems |
| [05:02:03] | MooglyGuy: | So I just ask you, please, to bear with me. I shouldn't be getting worked up over this, but this godforsaken piece of technology next to me that should've been put to pasture years ago is doing its best at giving me a coronary. |
| [05:02:16] | dtm: | ^_^ |
| [05:02:26] | MooglyGuy: | dscoular`: See, that's why I'm never being a parent. My first reaction would be that MythTV needs a good beating with a wire hanger. |
| [05:02:29] | dscoular`: | MooglyGuy: you need to learn to chill out. |
| [05:02:40] | Achew22: | Beirdo you said you have a gentoo asterisk box — is that separate from your desktop ocmputer? |
| [05:02:48] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [05:02:56] | TheRiddler: | Achew22: well that fixed the issue for like 5 min.. then it stopped working.. not sure whats up |
| [05:03:04] | Achew22: | try it again? |
| [05:03:07] | GreyFoxx: | I built a Myth box for for work today, they've been bugging mefor weeks |
| [05:03:09] | D-side: | this guy is more wound up than I am, and christ is that a statement. |
| [05:03:17] | TheRiddler: | Achew22: didnt work the next time.. |
| [05:03:29] | Achew22: | Beirdo how many servers do you have |
| [05:03:30] | D-side: | Beirdo: didnt you used to give me piles of shit for running gentoo? :) |
| [05:03:34] | Beirdo: | too many |
| [05:03:43] | Beirdo: | D-side, yes, and gentoo still sucks |
| [05:03:44] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [05:03:48] | Achew22: | TheRiddler whats your problem? |
| [05:03:51] | Achew22: | ha ha ha |
| [05:03:52] | Beirdo: | but you can't say I didn't try it :) |
| [05:04:08] | Achew22: | D-side do you have a pvr-X50 |
| [05:04:09] | TheRiddler: | I dont get any sound when playing live tv.. or recording anything new.. |
| [05:04:14] | TheRiddler: | everything else plays fine |
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| [05:04:20] | Achew22: | are you running gnome? |
| [05:04:34] | TheRiddler: | no. |
| [05:04:40] | Achew22: | what are you running/ |
| [05:04:48] | TheRiddler: | sec.. phone.. |
| [05:04:59] | Achew22: | I havent heard of that... ohh... nevermind |
| [05:05:03] | D-side: | Achew22: I do have an x50 card. actually, two pvr-250s. |
| [05:05:03] | MooglyGuy: | Screw it. I'll try it tomorrow, if I'm not too busy playing Elder Scrolls IV. |
| [05:05:20] | Achew22: | D-side I'm having issues with ivtv in gentoo would you be willing to help me? |
| [05:05:25] | TheRiddler: | sorry Achew22 KDE |
| [05:05:37] | Achew22: | I don't know how to fix it in kde... sorry |
| [05:05:54] | TheRiddler: | well how do you fix it in gnome? |
| [05:05:56] | D-side: | Achew22: i dont know how much help i can offer you, other than to say try unmasking the latest. |
| [05:06:02] | Achew22: | you turn off system sounds |
| [05:06:12] | Achew22: | okay... how do you unmask? |
| [05:06:13] | D-side: | if you've got a 150 or a 500, i cant help at all. |
| [05:06:20] | Achew22: | I have a 250 |
| [05:06:23] | TheRiddler: | ahh hmm okay let me see about that. |
| [05:06:28] | D-side: | you're going to have to read the portage docs for that. |
| [05:06:49] | D-side: | i can give you a basic explanation, but without the background info in the docs, you'll F your system over in no time. |
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| [05:06:58] | Achew22: | no, I need to know where the firmware goes |
| [05:07:10] | D-side: | uh |
| [05:07:17] | D-side: | you're not using an ebuild of ivtv? |
| [05:07:20] | D-side: | because if you're not, start. |
| [05:07:23] | Achew22: | http://pastebin.com/613779 is my dmsg |
| [05:07:30] | Achew22: | i'm not using a ebuild |
| [05:07:41] | D-side: | well, see above. |
| [05:07:44] | Achew22: | yeah |
| [05:07:50] | Achew22: | how do I unmask the new one? |
| [05:08:24] | D-side: | considering you havent even attempted to put in the old one yet, tell me what happens when you do "emerge -p ivtv" |
| [05:08:32] | Achew22: | it fails.... |
| [05:08:41] | Achew22: | ohh wait |
| [05:08:47] | Achew22: | no it says |
| [05:08:47] | Achew22: | [ebuild N ] media-tv/ivtv-0.4.0-r3 |
| [05:08:52] | Achew22: | then when I do emerge ivtv it fails |
| [05:09:13] | Achew22: | http://pastebin.com/613734 thats the emerge for it |
| [05:09:54] | D-side: | sigh. |
| [05:10:02] | D-side: | just this once, will i spoonfeed. |
| [05:10:09] | Achew22: | YAY!! |
| [05:10:10] | D-side: | Achew22: you will do this PRECISELY. |
| [05:10:12] | Achew22: | i love spoons |
| [05:10:32] | D-side: | this is an x86 arch? |
| [05:10:37] | Achew22: | i686 |
| [05:10:50] | D-side: | which is an x86 arch. |
| [05:10:54] | Achew22: | so yes |
| [05:11:15] | D-side: | echo "media-tv/ivtv ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| [05:11:28] | D-side: | then emerge it. |
| [05:11:46] | Achew22: | so "emerge ivtv" |
| [05:12:06] | D-side: | if you're on gentoo and have to ask, god bless you. |
| [05:12:14] | Achew22: | double checking |
| [05:12:16] | D-side: | that SHOULD compile under that kernel version |
| [05:12:24] | Achew22: | now can you explain to me what that did? |
| [05:12:32] | D-side: | if its 2.6.15-gentoo-r1, than thats the same as mine. |
| [05:12:50] | D-side: | familiar with the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS section of make.conf? |
| [05:13:01] | Achew22: | no but I'll google it |
| [05:13:01] | D-side: | if not, read the docs for that. :D |
| [05:13:04] | D-side: | yeah. |
| [05:13:25] | D-side: | basically /etc/portage/* is used to set certain options. |
| [05:13:35] | Achew22: | okay |
| [05:13:50] | D-side: | listings in package.keywords will apply the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS vars you specify to the ebuild. |
| [05:13:51] | Achew22: | one quick question it says * CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER: is not set when it should be. |
| [05:14:01] | D-side: | just as package.mask will mask them, etc etc. |
| [05:14:05] | Achew22: | can that be ignored? |
| [05:14:06] | D-side: | that i cant help you with. |
| [05:14:08] | D-side: | i just dont know. |
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| [05:14:21] | Achew22: | i'm going to let it try to compile to see if it works 1st |
| [05:14:28] | D-side: | you do that. i'm going to bed. |
| [05:14:32] | D-side: | later boys. |
| [05:14:33] | Achew22: | aaw... |
| [05:14:37] | Achew22: | but i love you? |
| [05:15:02] | D-side: | and with that, you shall never again receive a word of instruction from me. |
| [05:15:09] | Achew22: | :D yay |
| [05:15:11] | D-side: | and this time, i mean it when i say i'm going to bed. |
| [05:15:15] | Achew22: | night |
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| [05:15:55] | Achew22: | does anyone know what features were added betwen ivtv 0.4.2 and 0.4.3 |
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| [05:38:11] | Rsx024: | if my hd-3000 is set as a dvb card will it work with analog cable? or is dvb only if you have antenna |
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| [05:40:35] | TheRiddler: | I am soo about to punt this machine!! |
| [05:41:50] | Rsx024: | yea man im almost to that point too |
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| [05:42:06] | Achew22: | we all are |
| [05:42:23] | Achew22: | noone in this channel (but for the voiced people) have working (completely) boxes |
| [05:42:37] | Achew22: | have == has |
| [05:42:50] | TheRiddler: | i USED too.. :-( |
| [05:43:03] | Achew22: | me too — then I got a new processor and broke it :( |
| [05:43:04] | Rsx024: | what distro linux are you using? |
| [05:43:25] | Rsx024: | yea ive been trying to set this hd-3000 up for about 2 weeks lol |
| [05:43:59] | pilly: | my box is functioning as intended.... few minor twaeks but I'd say 95% |
| [05:44:33] | Achew22: | yeah, I'm not even close — I don't have ivtv working or mythtv or X installed.. .but I do have sshd and samba |
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| [05:44:54] | defaultro: | evening guys |
| [05:44:57] | pilly: | so you have a bash prompt then.... |
| [05:44:58] | Achew22: | evening |
| [05:45:00] | pilly: | :) |
| [05:45:01] | Achew22: | yep |
| [05:45:08] | Achew22: | thats the best kind of tv watching experience |
| [05:45:12] | Achew22: | ascii art tv |
| [05:45:17] | defaultro: | is it still SVN that is used to download the trunk? |
| [05:45:18] | pilly: | well thats close ain't it?? |
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| [05:45:20] | Achew22: | damn that would be cool for like an hour |
| [05:45:41] | Rsx024: | lol |
| [05:46:03] | Achew22: | its been compiling QT 3.3.4 for FOREVER and when it finishes it still has 17 things to go before itwill try to compile mythtv |
| [05:46:22] | pilly: | gentoo install?? |
| [05:46:26] | Achew22: | yep |
| [05:46:37] | pilly: | I feel for ya... |
| [05:46:41] | Achew22: | and to fix ivtv i think I have to reboot and I don't want to end the compile |
| [05:46:56] | pilly: | but think how well it'll perform when its done.... |
| [05:47:02] | Achew22: | yeah... |
| [05:47:11] | Achew22: | utnill then I can't watch tv very well |
| [05:47:25] | pilly: | I was impatient and went with mythdora.... |
| [05:47:35] | pilly: | 2.1 seems nice |
| [05:48:21] | pilly: | its fedora (blagh) but I suppose its better than working on it.... |
| [05:48:22] | Achew22: | I'm ((30/48)*100)-20 percent there to running mythtv |
| [05:48:36] | Achew22: | mythdora is for losers.... |
| [05:49:03] | pilly: | gee thanks ass.... |
| [05:49:09] | Achew22: | :D your welcome |
| [05:49:29] | pilly: | I think I'll go watch tv.... |
| [05:49:31] | pilly: | :) |
| [05:49:35] | Achew22: | owch... that hurts |
| [05:49:50] | pilly: | maybe record somthing... |
| [05:50:03] | Achew22: | he he he |
| [05:50:07] | Achew22: | shush |
| [05:50:50] | Achew22: | maybe i'll setup samba while I kill time |
| [05:50:58] | pilly: | I'd likes to have gone pure deb or my personal fav mepis but I found dependancies we a prob.... |
| [05:51:17] | pilly: | and I wanted to retain a workind desktop |
| [05:51:26] | pilly: | working that is |
| [05:51:44] | Achew22: | I had it running on ubuntu I did apt-get build-src mythtv then got the source and compiled thats the most efficient way to get .19 in my oppinion |
| [05:52:06] | Achew22: | is there a way to save as in nano? |
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| [05:52:15] | pilly: | I tried ubuntu but had probs with mythgame |
| [05:52:29] | Achew22: | nevermind |
| [05:53:41] | Achew22: | YES IT FINISHED QT!!!!! |
| [05:54:25] | pilly: | next project is a homebrew ir reciever then gonna get a remote maybe a harmony... |
| [05:54:38] | pilly: | nice only like 23 more hours? |
| [05:54:43] | Achew22: | yep |
| [05:54:48] | pilly: | :) |
| [05:54:57] | pilly: | I'll stop being a dick..... |
| [05:55:05] | Achew22: | I was telling someone that I was on hour 7 of my gentoo install and he was like.. "nice — only 2 more weeks to go" |
| [05:55:09] | Achew22: | meh its cool, I don't mind |
| [05:55:10] | Rsx024: | is dvb only used for connection to antennas? or should it be used for standard analog cable too? |
| [05:55:48] | Achew22: | I think its only antenna |
| [05:55:57] | Achew22: | cable companies are encrypting the channels |
| [05:56:35] | Achew22: | if I could get digital recordings in mpeg form I would pay for digital cable but since its encrypted I don't think I'll get it |
| [05:56:43] | Rsx024: | yea thats what i thought im tryin to set up my hd-3000 and its gonna use analog cable |
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| [05:57:01] | Achew22: | bastard cable companies |
| [05:57:10] | Rsx024: | yea i got digital cable i use svideo to my pvr-150 to record from digital but i gotta get the stupid ir blaster working |
| [05:57:14] | Rsx024: | thats a whole nother issue |
| [05:57:52] | Achew22: | why svideo? why not use a digital stream — Isn't svideo analoge which makes it suck |
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| [05:59:59] | Rsx024: | digital stream? maybe i suck more than i thought lol |
| [06:00:07] | Rsx024: | what you mean digital stream? |
| [06:00:12] | Achew22: | firewire |
| [06:00:26] | Rsx024: | oh i gotta get active firewire ports |
| [06:00:35] | Achew22: | ohh, i'm sorry |
| [06:00:53] | Rsx024: | not your fault lol i just dont know what your talkin bout |
| [06:01:03] | Rsx024: | i gotta bring her in to get em turned on |
| [06:01:14] | Achew22: | they will turn it on for oyu! thats sweet |
| [06:01:29] | Rsx024: | yea all cable companies i think have to if you request it |
| [06:01:35] | Achew22: | those bastards.... |
| [06:01:38] | Rsx024: | lol |
| [06:01:43] | Achew22: | they wouldn't activate my sisters firewire port |
| [06:02:02] | Rsx024: | hmm that sucks i would call em back lol |
| [06:02:08] | Rsx024: | will firewire eliminate the need for irblaster? |
| [06:02:13] | Achew22: | meh — she wouldn't need it |
| [06:02:34] | Achew22: | no you still need it, but you'll get a better signal and be able to use your pvr-150 to watch analogue at the same time that you do firewire |
| [06:03:00] | Rsx024: | oh so i will have hd-3000 pvr-150 and firewire lol maybe i should invest in hd antenna |
| [06:03:57] | Achew22: | i wish I had money.... |
| [06:04:50] | Rsx024: | yea this was the last big thing iam spending money on now i gotta save some |
| [06:05:11] | Rsx024: | i said screw tivo and go custom |
| [06:05:26] | Achew22: | good man |
| [06:05:58] | Rsx024: | yea untill this thing works i hate myself lol |
| [06:06:08] | Achew22: | meh — when it works you will be so happy |
| [06:06:10] | Achew22: | i was.... |
| [06:06:12] | Rsx024: | yea |
| [06:06:13] | TheRiddler: | do you guys know if there is a way to get more verbose logging in mythbackend.log? Maybe see what its trying to do with the audio when watching tv/recording? |
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| [06:06:46] | dtm: | TheRiddler: run 'mythbackend -h' |
| [06:07:00] | TheRiddler: | thanx |
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| [06:10:07] | TheRiddler: | well nuts..that didnt show much of anything. |
| [06:13:13] | Achew22: | when you do emerge is there a way to have it skip 1 dependancy? |
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| [06:17:48] | blaine: | Is there any menu for indicating the audio device for the MythDVD and/or MythVideo internal player? |
| [06:18:01] | blaine: | So frustrating, I get no audio in either. |
| [06:18:36] | TheRiddler: | well.. I have made some headway... |
| [06:18:48] | TheRiddler: | seems that it will work RIGHT after i modprobe ivtv |
| [06:18:55] | TheRiddler: | but only via mplayer. |
| [06:19:00] | TheRiddler: | if I use mythtv.. no sound. |
| [06:19:36] | blaine: | You get no sound for the internal players? |
| [06:19:58] | TheRiddler: | for live tv and new recordings.. i get sound for previously recorded shows and music |
| [06:20:18] | blaine: | ew |
| [06:20:38] | blaine: | Are you running an FC4 kernel? |
| [06:21:00] | TheRiddler: | no FC3 |
| [06:21:17] | Achew22: | fedora is an ugly os ;) |
| [06:21:45] | TheRiddler: | yeah i know... i used to have a ubunto box.. but the drive died.. and I needed to get it up and running fast |
| [06:22:02] | TheRiddler: | my media was bad... and well the wife gets used to this thing ya know :-) |
| [06:22:03] | Achew22: | dude... its ez to do myth in ubuntu |
| [06:22:22] | TheRiddler: | yeah I know it was easy.. |
| [06:22:26] | TheRiddler: | just didnt have time.. |
| [06:22:37] | Achew22: | so make it auto login as mythtv and start mythfrontend on login for that user |
| [06:22:39] | blaine: | Maybe I'll have to give it a try. |
| [06:22:43] | Rsx024: | i use knoppmyth which is supposed to be easy but.... |
| [06:22:48] | Achew22: | god no |
| [06:23:01] | Achew22: | i couldn't ge knoppmyth to work — i went to ubuntu and had it running 3 hours later |
| [06:23:24] | Rsx024: | well i got a ubuntu dvd burnt and allready to go if this fails lol |
| [06:23:30] | TheRiddler: | i wonder if this is a ivtv issue. |
| [06:23:33] | Achew22: | nice... |
| [06:23:40] | Rsx024: | do you have any links to some ubuntu guides? |
| [06:23:41] | Achew22: | http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html try that |
| [06:23:47] | Rsx024: | lol cool thanks |
| [06:24:02] | TheRiddler: | I think he has that on a hotkey .. LOL |
| [06:24:34] | Achew22: | I do.... |
| [06:24:38] | Achew22: | i type /hyam and it puts that out |
| [06:24:42] | TheRiddler: | ROFL |
| [06:24:46] | TheRiddler: | NICE! |
| [06:25:06] | Achew22: | http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html try that |
| [06:25:10] | Achew22: | see... |
| [06:25:17] | TheRiddler: | yup yup |
| [06:25:25] | Achew22: | that guy did it in 71 min. |
| [06:25:32] | Achew22: | of course you have enough time |
| [06:25:47] | Achew22: | thats an hour + change |
| [06:25:49] | TheRiddler: | its not the install I had a problem with.. |
| [06:25:55] | Achew22: | and the 35 min at the beginning you don't have to be there for |
| [06:26:06] | TheRiddler: | its downloading the os... and then getting started.. and I had FC3 sitting here |
| [06:26:25] | Achew22: | take your fc3 disk and give it to the dog to chew on... then switch to ubuntu |
| [06:26:32] | TheRiddler: | ROFL.. |
| [06:26:44] | TheRiddler: | i am already building out another box for ubuntu |
| [06:26:46] | Achew22: | then you won't be tempted to go back |
| [06:26:49] | Achew22: | yay |
| [06:26:50] | TheRiddler: | just need to get this working |
| [06:26:56] | Achew22: | i'm building a dvdplayer mythbox |
| [06:27:02] | TheRiddler: | nice.. |
| [06:27:07] | Achew22: | i gutted an old dvd player and i'm putting in a x86 computer |
| [06:27:25] | TheRiddler: | i got myself a nice little shuttlecase.. holds 1 5 1/4" and 3 drives.. |
| [06:27:29] | Rsx024: | ok ok now that is sick |
| [06:27:45] | Achew22: | its fucking amzing... i got all the equiptment — just gotta find time to assemble |
| [06:28:03] | Achew22: | and I kept the connections active in the back so I will be able to run cables and have the oem plugs work :D |
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| [06:28:21] | Rsx024: | when i get money and the thing actually works i will spend money on a nice case for now the full size will do lol |
| [06:28:28] | Achew22: | and oem power cable has been modified.. .this think will look like a dvd player |
| [06:28:38] | Rsx024: | thats crazy |
| [06:28:46] | Achew22: | dude this was a broken box that I got off of ebay for .01$ with 5$ shipping |
| [06:28:55] | Rsx024: | nice |
| [06:29:04] | Achew22: | 5.01$ for the box isn't that bad |
| [06:29:13] | Achew22: | i'll give you links to all the hardware when I write up the tutorial |
| [06:29:17] | TheRiddler: | with the mini-itx boards out there you can do alot |
| [06:29:30] | Achew22: | they don't really have pci slots on them |
| [06:29:40] | Achew22: | sides I just got a regular atx and a half height pvr150 |
| [06:29:48] | Rsx024: | half height? |
| [06:29:50] | defaultro: | anyone owns a house and had experience selling? :) |
| [06:29:51] | Rsx024: | hows that |
| [06:29:52] | TheRiddler: | yeah but there is added support these days for external cards etc |
| [06:29:56] | Achew22: | 1 sec |
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| [06:31:00] | Achew22: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116629 |
| [06:31:06] | Achew22: | its half the height of a regular pvr150 |
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| [06:31:15] | Achew22: | and it has a fm tuner |
| [06:31:22] | Rsx024: | nice |
| [06:31:33] | Rsx024: | i shoulda went that route and just bough a streamzap remote |
| [06:31:42] | Achew22: | but it only has svideo input |
| [06:31:57] | Achew22: | so i'm going to spilt that and get a converter to convert it to component |
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| [06:32:19] | Achew22: | and you know what — for an extra 7$ its worth it to me to save 35$ on a real case |
| [06:32:51] | Rsx024: | yea besides its gonna look like a freakin dvd player that will be outta control lol |
| [06:34:54] | defaultro: | hey guys, is there any new theme? |
| [06:35:31] | TheRiddler: | i made one a while back.. based off of illius.. wasnt that hard |
| [06:35:39] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:36:01] | defaultro: | does the stable 0.19 svn get updated? |
| [06:36:17] | defaultro: | or is it only the trunk that gets updated? |
| [06:36:29] | TheRiddler: | dunno still running .18.1 |
| [06:36:39] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:36:40] | Anduin: | defaultro – there is a -fixes |
| [06:36:55] | defaultro: | how do i do that? |
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| [06:37:05] | defaultro: | Coz I download the tar.gz when it was released |
| [06:37:10] | defaultro: | i would like to use the latest |
| [06:37:36] | Rsx024: | if i update my nvidia driver to newest will that fix the brightness and quality of my output or is that some thing i have to tweak on my own? |
| [06:37:38] | Anduin: | defaultro – SVN, no new tarballs |
| [06:37:54] | defaultro: | i know, so i just do svn update, it does contains the fixes? |
| [06:38:22] | Anduin: | defaultro – Update would do head if you checked out from there. |
| [06:38:33] | Anduin: | -fixes is a branch |
| [06:38:52] | defaultro: | this is what I'm seeing right now |
| [06:38:52] | defaultro: | svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-19-fixes/mythtv |
| [06:38:56] | fatmatt: | hmm, how do I do an apt-get dist-upgrade and get it to keep the current/older mythtv packages? |
| [06:39:09] | defaultro: | is that the one that i should download? |
| [06:39:27] | Anduin: | defaultro – Yes, if you did an update after doing that checkout you'd have all the fixes that someone wanted to put there. |
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| [06:39:34] | defaultro: | and does that link contain fixes to the last release 0.19.tar.gz files? |
| [06:39:45] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:39:55] | Anduin: | defaultro – tar files are only made for releases |
| [06:40:02] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:40:13] | defaultro: | i had an impression that only trunk gets updated |
| [06:40:14] | defaultro: | Thanks |
| [06:40:23] | defaultro: | downloading it now |
| [06:40:51] | defaultro: | the fix was the keyboardless and the enter key |
| [06:40:57] | Anduin: | trunk is of course where all the work happens, only "important" fixes are put in -fixes |
| [06:40:59] | defaultro: | for the custom group |
| [06:41:10] | defaultro: | i hope it's in fixes now |
| [06:41:14] | defaultro: | it's been a month |
| [06:41:31] | defaultro: | it was Captain Murdoch who wrote the fixes ;) |
| [06:41:35] | Anduin: | Yeah, time isn't a good measure, you can look at the commits list. |
| [06:41:42] | defaultro: | yep |
| [06:41:56] | defaultro: | well, 0.19 has been working like a charm |
| [06:42:13] | defaultro: | i was happy w/ 0.18 but more happier than .19 |
| [06:42:38] | defaultro: | hd was already stable in 0.18 but no captions but now on .19, it does have cc :D |
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| [06:44:56] | defaultro: | do you know of any new cool theme that kinda looks like the screen when we watch NBA, WWF or ESPN |
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| [06:45:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | normally when I commit a fix, if I've tested it I'll put it in -fixes also. been trying to do that since 0.19 came out. |
| [06:46:00] | defaultro: | hey Captain |
| [06:46:03] | defaultro: | how are you? |
| [06:46:14] | Captain_Murdoch: | fine, busy but fine. :) |
| [06:46:26] | defaultro: | Remember the group I made and enter key on remote does not work? |
| [06:46:38] | defaultro: | the one for parental |
| [06:46:52] | defaultro: | were you able to write that code? It works in keyboard but not in remote |
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| [06:47:29] | defaultro: | and you told me to send an email to someone about that bug :) |
| [06:47:45] | defaultro: | and you knew that I haven't done it :D |
| [06:48:18] | defaultro: | i think, it was more than a month or 2 |
| [06:48:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | not really. not enough sleep lately sometimes. :) did I fix it? |
| [06:48:31] | defaultro: | i haven't tried it |
| [06:48:37] | defaultro: | i just downloaded now |
| [06:48:46] | defaultro: | been busy doing a lot of fixes too but for my house |
| [06:49:01] | defaultro: | i will compile it later this afternoon |
| [06:49:07] | defaultro: | it's almost 1am here in IL |
| [06:49:30] | defaultro: | i got to wake up at 4am, shoot! to pick up my wife's sister in airport |
| [06:50:05] | defaultro: | so you don't recall writing that code? |
| [06:50:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | not really, but I don't recall some of the things I've worked on over the past couple months. |
| [06:50:34] | Captain_Murdoch: | I remember working on the issue with a space in the group name |
| [06:50:42] | dtm: | defaultro: no shooting allowed in the airport, sir. come with me, please |
| [06:50:42] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:50:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | and the virtual keyboard popping up when you hit enter |
| [06:50:51] | defaultro: | LOL |
| [06:50:59] | defaultro: | yeah, that's the one i was talking about |
| [06:51:04] | defaultro: | the virtual keyboard issue |
| [06:51:16] | defaultro: | when hitting enter key that was mapped through lirc |
| [06:51:22] | defaultro: | that wasn't working |
| [06:51:26] | defaultro: | i will try it tomorrow |
| [06:51:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | should be fixed then. fixed another case of it a couple nights ago, but that was just me applying a patch submitted by someone else. |
| [06:52:12] | defaultro: | gotcha! sweet |
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| [07:22:51] | phar0e: | I have a problem, I keep ordering new hardware from newegg week after week |
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| [07:48:55] | Rsx024: | lol |
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| [08:13:05] | pilly: | I export my myth to display :0.1 but when xine loads all works fine but I cannot close the osd or even close the window with the "x" in the windowed corner of xine anyone solve this problem? |
| [08:17:31] | pilly: | weird it works as root if I do "DISPLAY=:0.1 xine" but not as a regular user |
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| [08:27:38] | pilly: | ok figgured it out.... I had the display exported in xine as well (appearently thats a nono....) |
| [08:28:50] | phar0e: | congrats pilly |
| [08:29:04] | phar0e: | I had a wonderful time watching you work that out while I ate lunch |
| [08:29:24] | pilly: | ehe... thanks.... |
| [08:29:44] | phar0e: | what do you use xine for? |
| [08:29:51] | pilly: | dvd |
| [08:29:58] | phar0e: | which DVD? |
| [08:30:33] | pilly: | its a scooby doo video of my sons in there right now... :) |
| [08:30:49] | phar0e: | oh |
| [08:31:02] | pilly: | mplayer wanted to play it in spanish for some reason.... |
| [08:31:02] | phar0e: | well then I'm sure he'll be glad you got it working |
| [08:31:19] | pilly: | more me.... perfectionist |
| [08:31:50] | phar0e: | I can't wait until I get to the point of tinkering with my dvd drive, right now I'm still at that.. trying to get linux installed |
| [08:32:59] | pilly: | its nice when that part is done... remote is my next big hurdle.... |
| [08:33:14] | pilly: | then its wife-friendly |
| [08:33:17] | xris: | ok, bunch of mythweb commits tonight (trunk and fixes branch).. enjoy. time to sleep. |
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| [08:33:36] | phar0e: | ok chris, l8r |
| [08:33:49] | phar0e: | do you play games pilly? |
| [08:34:20] | pilly: | not really anymore... will set up mythgame for my 7 yr old though |
| [08:34:33] | phar0e: | juski told me I could only use windows for games and adobe photoshop |
| [08:35:16] | pilly: | just get the gimp kiss the games and m$ goodbye |
| [08:35:23] | phar0e: | do you have High-def setup on your mythbackend? |
| [08:35:42] | pilly: | no just crt and tv |
| [08:36:03] | pilly: | tv is display 0.1 no xinerama |
| [08:36:32] | phar0e: | I don't have an HDTV display, but I use my LCD monitor instead.. I couldn't live without HD |
| [08:36:56] | phar0e: | it's like the jump from black and white tv to colour |
| [08:37:16] | pilly: | just a pvr 150 no hd in the plans here... |
| [08:37:49] | pilly: | may eventually add a 350 for decodeing and 2nd input |
| [08:38:29] | phar0e: | cool |
| [08:38:54] | pilly: | has to pass wife-testing first though.... :) |
| [08:39:20] | phar0e: | noooo |
| [08:40:00] | phar0e: | what tv shows does she demand? |
| [08:40:14] | pilly: | mind you its an internal thing... (if she doesn't see it did I really spend money on it??) :) |
| [08:40:21] | pilly: | lost |
| [08:40:25] | pilly: | csi |
| [08:40:35] | pilly: | those types |
| [08:41:29] | phar0e: | just don't leave wires lying across the floor |
| [08:41:51] | pilly: | she loves to bitch about cords.... |
| [08:42:22] | pilly: | the ether net cable upstairs on the floor is her fav |
| [08:42:42] | phar0e: | mchou's girlfriend thought it'd be funny if she deleted all his porn... he was quite upset |
| [08:42:58] | pilly: | I could imagine... |
| [08:43:21] | phar0e: | specs of your frontend/backend? |
| [08:43:39] | pilly: | amd 1800 512 ram |
| [08:44:01] | pilly: | 270 gig total storage lvm'd |
| [08:44:15] | pilly: | pvr150 |
| [08:44:32] | pilly: | sweet antec case... |
| [08:44:59] | pilly: | covered with desk debris |
| [08:45:03] | pilly: | :) |
| [08:46:03] | pilly: | you? |
| [08:46:51] | phar0e: | I keep buying new hardware each week from newegg.. I have a problem |
| [08:47:56] | pilly: | whats the problem?? |
| [08:47:59] | pilly: | :) |
| [08:48:03] | phar0e: | backend: 1.5GB of memory, 1.2terabytes disk space, slackware, pchdtv-3000 pci, firewire<=>cable STB(HD), AMD 3700+ san diego, and an asus motherboard |
| [08:48:20] | pilly: | wow big time!! |
| [08:48:56] | pilly: | is that for reception or broadcast?!?!??! |
| [08:49:00] | pilly: | :) |
| [08:49:03] | phar0e: | frontend: 3GB of memory, xp4000+(I actually ordered a 3700 and they sent me a 4000 instead), eVga 7800GT x16 and an abit motherboard |
| [08:49:21] | phar0e: | is what for reception or broadcast? |
| [08:49:41] | pilly: | my back/frontend cost me the price of the tuner |
| [08:50:12] | pilly: | just commenting on your gross overkill.... |
| [08:50:12] | phar0e: | yeah I used to run an xp1800 for my backend, but then I just let things get out of hand |
| [08:50:46] | phar0e: | when I record I only use 3% cpu, there was no need for the upgrade, I have no idea why I did it |
| [08:50:57] | Chicago: | phar0e: what do you decode with your pchdtv-300 card? |
| [08:51:08] | Chicago: | or can you decode comcast? |
| [08:51:42] | pilly: | I find recording is nothing... playback will consume 8–12% |
| [08:52:07] | phar0e: | well my stupid cable company doesn't broadcast unencrypted channels over analog cable so I just use it for its svideo input from the stb so I can get premium channels only the stb can get like hbo and all basic cable |
| [08:52:18] | phar0e: | I have timewarner cable, btw. |
| [08:53:45] | Chicago: | I wonder if there are any international manufacturers of hd decoder cards for comcast/timewarner |
| [08:54:18] | phar0e: | I still may buy an antenna and mount it in my attic to have another HD source |
| [08:55:04] | phar0e: | OTA seems cool, I hate dumb cable companies that think you should pay extra for HD channels when it's what we were all supposed to be using 3 years ago in every home in america |
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| [08:58:07] | Chicago: | yeah, that's what I'm guessing too... what's the whole deal with the firewire ports on the back of the stbs? |
| [08:58:41] | phar0e: | it's a standard the FCC set for stbs.. |
| [08:59:24] | phar0e: | firewire is amazing, you can send signals over it and receive audio/video at great bandwidths |
| [08:59:31] | Chicago: | for sure |
| [09:00:12] | phar0e: | so mythtv users can control the STB's channel and record directly over firewire without the need of buying any special tuner card |
| [09:00:17] | Chicago: | so does the digital signal coming over firewire get captured with myth? |
| [09:00:30] | phar0e: | only cpu requirements is for writing to the disk |
| [09:00:57] | phar0e: | yes, mythtv can capture the ts mpeg stream over firewire |
| [09:01:18] | Chicago: | so that's digital hbo and cinemax then right? |
| [09:01:30] | phar0e: | well it all depends on your cable company, it varies depending on what they allow |
| [09:01:56] | phar0e: | for instance, I am allowed... 6 channels over firewire, NBC, ABC, FOX, PBS, ok that's 4.. I miscounted |
| [09:02:12] | phar0e: | they used to allow me to grab tntHD and discoveryHD |
| [09:02:14] | Chicago: | eh... you can get those OTA |
| [09:02:27] | Chicago: | except for tntHD and discoveryHD |
| [09:02:39] | phar0e: | but other lucky users like this guy named SlicerDicer- gets EVERYTHING over firewire with comcast including starzHD, HBOHD, etc. |
| [09:03:09] | Chicago: | what does he have? a tv genie? |
| [09:03:10] | phar0e: | yeah in my case OTA would make more sense, I could get KTLA-DT and CBS-DT |
| [09:03:20] | phar0e: | I don't know, he's just got a relaxed cable company |
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| [09:04:02] | phar0e: | 80% of my HD recordings are from fox(prison break, 24, the o.c.) so I don't mind my current setup |
| [09:05:00] | Chicago: | cool... |
| [09:05:25] | Chicago: | I'm looking through the mailing lists for something to integrate edonkey |
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| [09:06:13] | phar0e: | what do you use edonkey for? |
| [09:06:27] | Chicago: | I love it. |
| [09:07:52] | Juski: | if you're looking to integrate P2P sharing into mythtv you'll have a long fruitless search |
| [09:08:18] | phar0e: | juski has arrived |
| [09:08:23] | Chicago: | why do you say that? |
| [09:08:54] | Juski: | Chicago: because MythTV will never support file sharing, that's why |
| [09:08:59] | d64: | perhaps a donkey client that can be controlled by web |
| [09:09:21] | d64: | at least you could probably make the downloaded video files land in a directory where you can easily play them |
| [09:09:32] | Chicago: | d64: for sure... then you just need the overnetclc dumping the files into the mythvideo directory after it completes transfering. |
| [09:09:38] | phar0e: | my take on it is this, the developers are trying to make this project as professional as possible, it's not really a question of how legal/illegal it is, but just doesn't look right, gives the project bad press from mainstream |
| [09:09:59] | phar0e: | people want bittorrent built in also |
| [09:10:13] | Chicago: | i can live without bittorrent. |
| [09:10:18] | Juski: | incase you'd failed to notice, file sharing of copyrighted works is illegal, and anything connected to it is looked at in a bad light by the world at large – so the developers want mythtv to have nothing to do with it |
| [09:10:54] | Chicago: | Juski: I'd just like my set top box to be able to connect to my dvcam so I can share home videos with my family... p2p just makes sense for that. |
| [09:11:23] | Juski: | so does dropping DVDs in the mail |
| [09:11:36] | Chicago: | takes way too long. |
| [09:11:48] | Juski: | you must have a fat uplink |
| [09:11:55] | Chicago: | 200–500 meg can be everywhere I want it to be in an evening... |
| [09:12:05] | Chicago: | anybody with the high-end comcast can upload 150kb/sec |
| [09:12:20] | pilly: | on a lighter topic if I fubared my sql would that stop mtd from starting? |
| [09:12:53] | Juski: | anyway, because of P2P's bad rep, you'll never see it integrated in mythtv – end of story as far as the developers are concerned, for right or for wrong. I can't say I blame them |
| [09:13:13] | Chicago: | eh... somebody will fork myth eventually just for that feature. |
| [09:13:34] | Juski: | I doubt it, but you can cling onto that hope if you like |
| [09:13:51] | Chicago: | well... there are plenty of reasons to fork myth. |
| [09:14:02] | Chicago: | including all the streaming content built into xbmc missing from mythtv |
| [09:14:24] | Juski: | oh, the mightly l337 XBMC.. all hail the haxx0r |
| [09:14:44] | Chicago: | I don't have one... but they are mighty nice. |
| [09:15:22] | Juski: | all the streaming content.. so that'd be shoutcast support & movie/game trailers |
| [09:15:52] | Chicago: | well... shoucast support would be cool too... but there is a lot of indexed streams already in xbmc which don't yet exist in myth. |
| [09:16:02] | Chicago: | cnn video for example |
| [09:16:11] | Juski: | have you even seen mythstream? |
| [09:16:27] | Chicago: | no... it's not in portage... (gentoo) |
| [09:16:30] | Juski: | it's not an official plugin, but it works quite well |
| [09:16:32] | Chicago: | is it an official plugin? |
| [09:16:35] | Chicago: | nm |
| [09:17:15] | hwt: | what would have been cool is xbmc ported to linux, with mythtv extensions. |
| [09:17:21] | Juski: | its developer didn't listen to the main mythtv devs, so as a result it's not 'official' |
| [09:17:24] | Chicago: | well you can do xbmc with gentoo |
| [09:17:39] | hwt: | imho, the xbmc interface owns myth's. |
| [09:17:53] | hwt: | Chicago: why only with gentoo? |
| [09:18:01] | Chicago: | I didn't say only with gentoo... |
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| [09:18:04] | hwt: | i don't like gentoo much. |
| [09:18:07] | Juski: | you know instead of whining about how cool XBMC is, you couls just sit & wait for all the cool stuff to come, or help develop it. |
| [09:18:07] | Chicago: | I just know that there are HOWTO does for it. |
| [09:18:14] | hwt: | Chicago: url? |
| [09:18:25] | drdaz: | but whining is much easier |
| [09:18:31] | hwt: | Juski: i'm not whining. |
| [09:18:41] | Juski: | mythtv is going to get an opengl UI |
| [09:18:54] | hwt: | Juski: really? |
| [09:18:55] | Chicago: | hwt: http://forums.gentoo.org/ search for xbmc |
| [09:19:21] | Juski: | so you'll get all the cool scrolling & stuff.. eventually it'll be mythtv owning XBMC's UI |
| [09:19:38] | Juski: | animated menus & stuff are coming to mythtv |
| [09:19:42] | hwt: | nice. |
| [09:19:44] | Juski: | eye candy! |
| [09:19:51] | Chicago: | sounds cool.. |
| [09:19:53] | hwt: | what's the timeline for these things? |
| [09:19:59] | Chicago: | I'm wishing I had the skinning down for myth. |
| [09:20:02] | Juski: | it happens when it happens |
| [09:20:13] | Chicago: | Still workin on it... I suppose I'll have to relearn it once they change it. |
| [09:20:16] | Juski: | I did a theme based on XBMC |
| [09:20:21] | d64: | notwithstanding the p2p and whatever stuff, forking is an interesting question |
| [09:20:26] | Chicago: | Juski: did you share it? |
| [09:20:37] | Juski: | www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/ |
| [09:20:38] | d64: | many big/successful projects have been forked |
| [09:20:49] | Juski: | X, for one |
| [09:20:53] | hwt: | Chicago: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-391342-highlight-xbmc.html |
| [09:20:53] | d64: | gcc, for one |
| [09:20:54] | Chicago: | thanks |
| [09:21:03] | hwt: | Chicago: "the whole XBMC project currently relies on the Microsoft XBOX SDK and Visual Studio .NET" |
| [09:21:29] | Chicago: | hwt: I guess that means... that gentoo runs on xbox... and that xbmc runs on linux through gentoo. |
| [09:21:53] | Chicago: | Juski: that link isn't loading. |
| [09:21:58] | Chicago: | are you compiling or something? |
| [09:22:07] | Juski: | what? |
| [09:22:08] | hwt: | Chicago: xbmx runs atop the scaled down w2k kernel natively running on the xbox, afaik. |
| [09:22:14] | Chicago: | It isn't loading... refreshed twice. |
| [09:22:24] | Chicago: | thrice |
| [09:22:24] | Juski: | it's hosted at www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/ |
| [09:22:25] | drdaz: | link works fine here |
| [09:22:52] | Chicago: | must be bad luck for me. |
| [09:22:57] | drdaz: | :-/ |
| [09:23:02] | Juski: | like I'd use my home connection to serve big graphics anyway... |
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| [09:23:35] | Juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/pg-w . . . shots/04.png |
| [09:23:55] | Juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/pg-w . . . shots/02.png |
| [09:24:06] | drdaz: | folks in Sweden are getting 1Gbit lines at private residences.. its so not fair :( |
| [09:24:09] | Chicago: | weird... i can pull those URLs but the one pointing to the directory doesn't pull up. |
| [09:24:47] | Juski: | try www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/index.html |
| [09:25:04] | Chicago: | yeah that works. |
| [09:25:12] | Juski: | what browser are you using? |
| [09:25:17] | Chicago: | plain mozilla |
| [09:25:32] | Juski: | well it's not looking for index.html, which is should be doing |
| [09:25:37] | Juski: | *which it |
| [09:25:39] | Chicago: | but apache should have shipped out index.html as soon as I hit the directory unless the .htaccess is incorrect. |
| [09:25:56] | Juski: | it works here |
| [09:27:09] | Juski: | theming is very easy, but very time consuming |
| [09:27:14] | Chicago: | I bet it is.... |
| [09:27:20] | Chicago: | I can't wait for opengl myth. |
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| [09:27:51] | Chicago: | right now I figure I'm doing the video with my cpu... but I'd like to get a new mobo or video card so that I can do it off the cpu... |
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| [09:29:20] | drdaz: | Chicago: You'll likely want an nVidia gfx card then |
| [09:29:40] | drdaz: | or perhaps one of the VIA chipsets |
| [09:29:43] | Chicago: | I have a gforce2 ultra |
| [09:30:07] | drdaz: | gf4 and forward support mpeg acceleration |
| [09:30:59] | Juski: | the gl interface won't need many polygons/sec ;-) |
| [09:31:01] | Merlin83b2: | Morning folks. |
| [09:31:12] | Juski: | morning... time for me to head to work. |
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| [09:31:19] | Merlin83b2: | Heh. |
| [09:33:22] | stuarta: | morning Merlin83b2 |
| [09:34:08] | phar0e: | ugh, why does 1280x1024 hurt my eyes on this 17 inch lcd monitor |
| [09:35:10] | stuarta: | 65Hz? |
| [09:35:33] | phar0e: | it says it's at 75Hz |
| [09:35:45] | phar0e: | and my eyes don't normally hurt when it's 75Hz |
| [09:36:37] | drdaz: | phar0e: too bright? |
| [09:36:58] | drdaz: | that bugged me when i moved to lcd |
| [09:37:33] | phar0e: | I think it's the text |
| [09:38:06] | drdaz: | refresh rate on lcds doesnt have the same effects as with crts |
| [09:38:55] | drdaz: | for example my screen looks best at 60Hz-ish |
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| [09:39:53] | phar0e: | hmm good tip |
| [09:40:07] | phar0e: | I changed to 60Hz and .. well I don't want to jump to any conclusions |
| [09:40:16] | drdaz: | :) |
| [09:40:19] | phar0e: | thank you |
| [09:40:21] | drdaz: | np |
| [09:40:32] | drdaz: | mine looks awful at 75Hz |
| [09:40:51] | drdaz: | gotta run... |
| [09:40:55] | drdaz: | l8rs |
| [09:41:02] | Huijari: | i haven't even tried with 75Hz |
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| [10:23:35] | nathanh: | gday, im getting some pauses on my networked frontend, is there any easy way to increase the network buffer size? |
| [10:23:42] | nathanh: | i can fiddle in mysql if necessary |
| [10:23:58] | stuarta: | pause, count to three, unpause |
| [10:24:22] | nathanh: | didnt work, good idea though |
| [10:24:56] | stuarta: | damn, every other buffering issue we've had has been fixed by that... |
| [10:25:23] | nathanh: | oh good, i like being special :-) |
| [10:25:46] | nathanh: | backend is a pentium, frontend is an xbox, both running debian with 0.19 packages, 100mbps switched ethernet, no load on any boxes or network |
| [10:26:03] | nathanh: | seems to be every 3–4 seconds, quarter of a second pause |
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| [10:32:26] | Chicago: | nathanh: are they samba shares or nfs? |
| [10:32:45] | nathanh: | chicago: ? neither, local disk on the pentium, frontend is an xbox |
| [10:33:57] | fatmatt: | what does LCDenable do and should I use it on my laptop? |
| [10:34:23] | nathanh: | fatmatt: finds the lowest common denominator and turns it on... oh baby |
| [10:34:51] | Merlin83b2: | fatmatt: No. It's for little LCD status display things. |
| [10:34:53] | stuarta: | it's to support those little 4x20 lcd's on some cases, so no |
| [10:34:57] | fatmatt: | ahhh, gotcha |
| [10:35:08] | fatmatt: | that makes sense now... |
| [10:36:13] | Chicago: | nathanh: when your frontend skips, does top show you are "waiting"? |
| [10:36:36] | Chicago: | nathanh: waiting around 30% or so? |
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| [10:37:01] | nathanh: | yes, about that on the backend, Cpu(s): 0.3% us, 0.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 63.9% id, 34.4% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.3% si |
| [10:37:07] | nathanh: | disk io? |
| [10:37:34] | stuarta: | try running 'vmstat 2' and it'll show you io stats |
| [10:37:45] | Chicago: | nathanh: not exactly sure... I see that too and don't know why... |
| [10:38:03] | nathanh: | wait normally means that a process is blocked, waiting on io from the disk |
| [10:38:19] | nathanh: | hrm, dma is on, but multicount is off, ill try turning that on |
| [10:38:50] | nathanh: | didnt helop |
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| [11:03:20] | caitlin: | hey hey, is there by anychance anyone here using ubuntu to run mythtv? |
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| [11:04:02] | Slartybartfast: | no, but the knoppmyth developers are considering changing from debian to ubuntu |
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| [11:06:23] | Merlin83b2: | There are quite a few people using ubuntu, caitlin. |
| [11:06:34] | Merlin83b2: | I'm not one of them, but they may be along at some point. |
| [11:07:03] | caitlin: | i cant get the bloody thing to time sync :P it got 30 mins out.. not really good for taping tv :( |
| [11:07:35] | stuarta: | tried ntp? |
| [11:07:35] | Merlin83b2: | Using ntpdate at all? |
| [11:07:42] | Merlin83b2: | :-) |
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| [11:09:28] | Slartybartfast: | I have a global preroll (5 min) and post roll (15 min) set and I have two tuners, yet mythtv insists on using the same tuner to tape back top back shows on different channels. Anyone else think this is brain dead? |
| [11:09:51] | Merlin83b2: | Do you have a higher preference on one of your tuners, Slartybartfast? |
| [11:09:54] | Slartybartfast: | (back to back) |
| [11:10:00] | caitlin: | i have ntpdate |
| [11:10:05] | Slartybartfast: | I dont believe so. |
| [11:10:05] | caitlin: | but i can't get ntpd to work |
| [11:10:23] | Merlin83b2: | ntpdate will do what you want, caitlin. |
| [11:10:35] | stuarta: | caitlin: why, it's fairly simple |
| [11:10:40] | Slartybartfast: | is it supposed to honor the pre-roll and postroll in my situation? |
| [11:11:10] | caitlin: | ntpdate runs once though |
| [11:11:39] | stuarta: | and ntp works out your clock drift over time and still corrects if you are offline |
| [11:12:48] | Merlin83b2: | Set ntpdate to run regularly in your cron. |
| [11:13:00] | ** stuarta prefers ntp ** | |
| [11:13:11] | Merlin83b2: | The drift part is nice if you need it – some of us are online all the time and a one line cron is nice and easy ;-) |
| [11:13:40] | stuarta: | in which case ntp is best, for dialup use ntpdate |
| [11:15:35] | Slartybartfast: | I thought that you still needed ntpdate to set the clock initially since ntp will not correct the clock if the error is too large. |
| [11:16:05] | Slartybartfast: | If you run ntpdate at boot time and then start the ntpd service it should work. |
| [11:16:17] | stuarta: | most installations do just that. |
| [11:17:34] | caitlin: | ntpd seems a bit hacky on ubuntu |
| [11:17:39] | caitlin: | they dont seem to want you to run it :P |
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| [11:19:26] | pjn: | Slartybartfast: yes, that is the behaviour of mythtv, yes I think it is braindead |
| [11:19:40] | pjn: | there is a patch which changes that behaviour |
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| [11:20:04] | pjn: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/255 |
| [11:20:14] | Slartybartfast: | woot. where can I get it. I have already searched svn.mythtv.org |
| [11:20:27] | Slartybartfast: | myst have missed that one. |
| [11:20:56] | pjn: | (fwiw, my opinion on braindeadedness isn't worth much) |
| [11:21:36] | Slartybartfast: | well, I am in aggreeance with your opinion, so your opinion counts with me. |
| [11:22:40] | pjn: | is there something like avidemux which doesn't suck as much? (win32) |
| [11:23:59] | stuarta: | some people like projectx |
| [11:24:20] | stuarta: | java crap tho |
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| [11:29:26] | phar0e: | poor caitlin |
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| [11:32:31] | caitlin: | well, i think i have ntpd working, i guess i just have to watch the clock :P |
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| [11:33:01] | Slartybartfast: | I have had a close look at that ticket (255) and I'm staggered that it wasnt included in 0.19 |
| [11:33:28] | Slartybartfast: | caitlin: try the command "ntpq -p" to get the status of ntpd |
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| [11:36:52] | stuarta: | use ntpdc, or xntpdc to verify |
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| [11:42:40] | ** stuarta sizes up the trout & Slartybartfast ** | |
| [11:43:47] | Slartybartfast: | why would you trout me? |
| [11:44:30] | stuarta: | Q asked on #mythtv, really belongs here, so far I'm being nice :) |
| [11:45:28] | Slartybartfast: | understood, but really, it is a question for the devs as to why it wasnt included. Is it because of the last request made in the ticket? |
| [11:46:56] | Slartybartfast: | also, I am a developer, which based on all the warnings allows me to post in #mythtv |
| [11:47:03] | stuarta: | initially it needed rework, then it became close to 0.19 release |
| [11:47:24] | stuarta: | there was a big holdoff on significant changes till after 0.19 was out |
| [11:47:29] | Slartybartfast: | ok thanks, but you can only answer that because you are a dev. |
| [11:47:45] | stuarta: | not a dev, pseudo dev :) |
| [11:47:57] | Slartybartfast: | (same here I guess) |
| [11:48:38] | Slartybartfast: | Ticket 391 is my baby. I use it all the time now. |
| [11:51:32] | stuarta: | playback groups are a nice feature. |
| [11:51:57] | Merlin83b2: | Never used 'em. |
| [11:52:24] | stuarta: | Have a type of recording you always watch at 1.25x normal speed? |
| [11:52:47] | stuarta: | requires different jump lengths to normal? |
| [11:52:50] | Merlin83b2: | Not really, althought I have started to experiment with watching some stuff on time stretch. |
| [11:53:24] | stuarta: | it's an extension of that, you will soon find some things you always watch like that |
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| [11:53:49] | Merlin83b2: | Then just make a group called 1.25 speed and tell them to record in that? |
| [11:54:13] | stuarta: | something like that. it's keyed to a regexp on the title as well. |
| [11:54:27] | Slartybartfast: | my patch was to make TOGGLESTRETCH switch to the last time-stretch speed with a single key press. and back to 1x if you press it again. |
| [11:54:32] | stuarta: | but it's a 'playback' group |
| [11:55:37] | Slartybartfast: | Great for watching start-stop sport or other shows that have dull bits. |
| [11:56:10] | stuarta: | nfl -> 1.5x normal, don't even need to slow it down, they do instant replays. |
| [11:57:42] | Slartybartfast: | I hate watching the action bits at faster than normal though. hence my patch to switch back and forth between time stretc and normal easily |
| [11:58:19] | stuarta: | makes sense |
| [11:59:15] | Slartybartfast: | It made it into 0.19 but you need to map a key for it. There is no default key. |
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| [13:13:36] | username1: | hows everyone doing this morning? |
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| [13:16:07] | JasonR1234: | so I had 0.18.1 running smoothly. I did the upgrade to 0.19 via manual compile (followed docs on website). Backend runs, and records fine. Frontend runs and lets me do everything EXCEPT see the program guide... |
| [13:16:19] | dorel: | has anyone tried minimyth for via epia boxes? |
| [13:17:04] | stuarta: | several people have, don't think they are here at the moment tho |
| [13:17:13] | JasonR1234: | when I try it, mythfrontend prints out a DB Error... (ProgramList::FromProgram) — error is "Column 'channum' in order clause is ambiguous" |
| [13:19:21] | JasonR1234: | to try and solve my problem I searched out the "channum + 0" in (ProgramList::FromProgram) and changed it to "channel.channum + 0". I did a make clean, recompiled and reinstalled but the error still appears. |
| [13:20:19] | stuarta: | it's complaining about the select from the database. |
| [13:20:34] | JasonR1234: | I know.. I just can't figure out where to fix it ;-) |
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| [13:21:02] | stuarta: | that should work, so possibly one of the schema updates didn't go through properly |
| [13:22:19] | dorel: | the way i understand it, i install the mythtv packages on an already runing system like debian right? |
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| [13:29:15] | JasonR1234: | brb – my cable modem is going to go down for a few min |
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| [13:41:34] | JasonR1234: | ok |
| [13:42:03] | JasonR1234: | anyone know if there is a DB Schema Map+reference online somewhere so I can verify my DB structure? |
| [13:42:29] | ** Beirdo bites the bullet and reboots his PVR ** | |
| [13:44:39] | Beirdo: | oh for FUCKS SAKES?! |
| [13:44:49] | Beirdo: | Unable to open '/lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin'. |
| [13:45:07] | Beirdo: | you bastard machine, what did you do with my ivtv firmware?! |
| [13:45:19] | Merlin83b2: | :< |
| [13:45:50] | dorel: | is there a debian howto/guide on building myth-tv on it? |
| [13:46:18] | Beirdo: | sometime in the last.... 410 days... the ivtv firmware disappeared |
| [13:47:35] | d64: | jason, i had problems with my db and had to google search for the sql insert statements.. i did find some though |
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| [13:48:48] | Beirdo: | OK, there we go |
| [13:48:58] | Beirdo: | thank GOD atrpms still had it |
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| [13:51:04] | Beirdo: | yeah, I think that I should svn up soon too |
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| [13:59:32] | sphing: | anyone running gentoo? |
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| [14:00:04] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sphing: yep, plenty |
| [14:00:28] | sphing: | ot question: if i install a kernel from source, (not gentoo-sources) how i make gentoo aware of its isntallation |
| [14:01:10] | RaYmAn-Bx: | you have to manually add it to /boot/grun/grub.conf |
| [14:01:38] | sphing: | no no, I got the whole machine booting off the kernel, but my problem is when i emerge mythtv it installs gentoo-souces |
| [14:02:35] | RaYmAn-Bx: | ah. no idea then..I manually compiled mythtv |
| [14:02:47] | sphing: | ah alrighty |
| [14:02:49] | Huijari: | sphing: have you symlinked the sources dir to /usr/src/linux and all? |
| [14:02:53] | sphing: | yup |
| [14:03:07] | Huijari: | try to mask gentoo-sources |
| [14:03:22] | sphing: | its not a big deal because its doesnt harm anything its just a waste of time |
| [14:03:38] | RaYmAn-Bx: | you could prolly inject gentoo-sources so it pretends it's installed.. |
| [14:04:15] | sphing: | i feel like this is a common problem, alot of people compile their own kernels, there should be a way to be like, nope I have a kernel installed already |
| [14:04:35] | RaYmAn-Bx: | emerge inject sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-some-version |
| [14:04:39] | RaYmAn-Bx: | that would probably work |
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| [14:04:53] | sphing: | ill give it a shot |
| [14:05:04] | JasonR1234: | d64- I had a problem like that too... had to go in my DB and reverse all the schema updates back to the 0.18.1 set. |
| [14:05:09] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Personally I'd say the problem is really with the mythtv ebuild... |
| [14:05:10] | sphing: | ... well on my next gentoo install, I already let it run |
| [14:05:28] | sphing: | RaYmAn-Bx: your lucky cardoe isnt here... |
| [14:05:33] | sphing: | he'll box ya |
| [14:05:37] | RaYmAn-Bx: | lol |
| [14:07:10] | RaYmAn-Bx: | hmm, mythtv doesn't seem to depend on gentoo-sources at all |
| [14:07:15] | RaYmAn-Bx: | as in, the ebuild |
| [14:07:26] | Huijari: | is "the old" hauppage wintv-nova-t still the best digitv-card for linux? |
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| [14:07:50] | Huijari: | (dvb-t) |
| [14:07:51] | sphing: | no, but i'm sure the depencies is on one of myth's dependencies |
| [14:08:05] | JasonR1234: | I think my problems started when I put 0.19 frontend on a laptop, and connected to my 0.18.1.... the client tried to upgrade the DB schema, had a few issues with it. so I had to look at the db update code and delete the new columns to allow the 0.19 install to complete the schema update.. |
| [14:08:09] | sphing: | spelled dependency different in the same sentence... nice |
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| [14:13:21] | JasonR1234: | I think I am just going to have to rename my mythconverg database, and let mythtv recreate a new one and move my data back over to it.. |
| [14:14:47] | sphing: | JasonR1234: you didn't backup before the upgrade... |
| [14:14:57] | ** sphing shakes head ** | |
| [14:15:05] | sjors: | any mythweb users here? I can't get mythweb-0.19 working |
| [14:15:18] | sphing: | sjors: whats wrong |
| [14:15:46] | JasonR1234: | sphing – I did before the backend upgrade... but I was not expecting a 0.19 client to update the DB schema on my 0.18.1 backend! |
| [14:16:29] | sphing: | you cant use .19 client with a 18.1 backend |
| [14:16:34] | sjors: | apache does not like the setenv line in the .htaccess that it provides |
| [14:16:41] | sphing: | different myth protocol versions |
| [14:16:48] | Huijari: | oh my god |
| [14:16:56] | sphing: | sjors: so remove the .htaccess file |
| [14:17:07] | Huijari: | i haven't even realized how darn cool mythtv is |
| [14:17:15] | sphing: | .htaccess is just to override settings on a per directory basis |
| [14:17:23] | sjors: | it's needed for rewriting |
| [14:17:38] | sphing: | it can also be accomplished by editing the httpd.conf or apache.conf file |
| [14:18:05] | sjors: | if I comment out the setenv lines I only get a blank page with a"<" |
| [14:18:10] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sphing: make sure the env module is loaded |
| [14:18:19] | ** sphing points to sjors ** | |
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| [14:18:30] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sorry, damn nick complete :P |
| [14:18:36] | ** sjors thinks that could do the trick ** | |
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| [14:19:04] | sphing: | RaYmAn-Bx: lately theres a sphery |
| [14:19:08] | sphing: | throws everyone off |
| [14:19:16] | RaYmAn-Bx: | mythweb needs the env variables, since it (for some odd reason) stores dbusername/etc there |
| [14:19:19] | RaYmAn-Bx: | heh |
| [14:20:02] | sphing: | RaYmAn-Bx: you're lucky xris isnt paying attention |
| [14:20:05] | sphing: | he'll eat ya |
| [14:20:38] | ** stuarta throws sphing the trout ** | |
| [14:20:39] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I'm really good at making people like me it seems =P |
| [14:20:56] | sphing: | !trout RaYmAn-Bx |
| [14:20:56] | ** MythLogBot slaps RaYmAn-Bx with a trout on behalf of sphing... ** | |
| [14:21:14] | sjors: | RaYmAn-Bx: apache takes the setenv lines now, but I still get a blank page with "<" |
| [14:22:25] | RaYmAn-Bx: | check apache's error log |
| [14:23:22] | RaYmAn-Bx: | and make sure your php settings are correct |
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| [14:24:30] | sjors: | error log does not say anything usefull, php settings are suse's default |
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| [14:25:15] | sphing: | sjors: make a php page with <? phpinfo() ?> |
| [14:25:24] | sphing: | to make sure its loading the php properly |
| [14:25:37] | sjors: | it is |
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| [14:30:35] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sjors: well, it requires safe mode off and allow_url_fopen On...it might not work setting it directly in the .htaccess file |
| [14:31:20] | sjors: | I would expect that that would produce an error by PHP |
| [14:31:36] | RaYmAn-Bx: | maybe |
| [14:32:01] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I seem to remember having to edit php.ini to get it working and no errors from the attempted settings in .htaccess |
| [14:32:02] | sphing: | sjors: you almost definately have to to make allow_url_fopen on because I'm pretty sure all php installs have it off by default |
| [14:32:16] | sphing: | and its a php configuration not apache, so .htaccess has nothing to do with it |
| [14:32:29] | RaYmAn-Bx: | sphing: the .htaccess attempts to set it using php_value |
| [14:32:48] | RaYmAn-Bx: | which is an apache 2.x feature (that I guess is possible to disable) |
| [14:32:56] | Beirdo: | I can't believe I used to watch TV in real-time |
| [14:33:10] | Beirdo: | now I routinely watch at 1.35x or so :) |
| [14:33:10] | sphing: | hmm didnt know it could override php... oops |
| [14:34:33] | sjors: | safemode was off and allowurlfopen was on |
| [14:34:49] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I didn't either till I read through the .htaccess that comes with mythweb |
| [14:37:14] | sphing: | Beirdo: like live tv? |
| [14:39:22] | Beirdo: | I don't do livetv |
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| [14:40:26] | sphing: | at first I was like these people are crazy... but now I completely understand |
| [14:41:06] | Beirdo: | have shitloads recorded, no need for livetv :) |
| [14:41:16] | sjors: | I give up |
| [14:41:39] | sphing: | Beirdo: o.. i didnt see the 1.35x |
| [14:41:46] | sphing: | you watch your shows at 1.35x thats crazy |
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| [14:42:17] | Beirdo: | I'll likely up that to 1.4 or 1.45 soon |
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| [14:42:38] | sphing: | all the show in 1/1.4 the time |
| [14:42:50] | Beirdo: | yup |
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| [14:44:11] | Huijari: | and the stuff in tv being such crap as it is nowadays you won't miss anything with 1,4x :D |
| [14:45:43] | Beirdo: | poor bastard PVR |
| [14:45:52] | Beirdo: | it so badly needed that reboot |
| [14:45:56] | Merlin83b2: | Heh. |
| [14:46:00] | Beirdo: | now everything's snappy again |
| [14:46:16] | Beirdo: | I guess the forcedeth driver got slightly tweaked |
| [14:46:36] | Beirdo: | in an ssh connection, it was like 2 characters behind |
| [14:46:37] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
| [14:46:51] | Beirdo: | it's like the interrupts got out of sync |
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| [14:46:55] | Beirdo: | or some such shit |
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| [14:47:16] | Beirdo: | anyways, time to go to work |
| [14:47:27] | ** Beirdo groans in anticipation ** | |
| [14:48:06] | ** stuarta is watching the clock ** | |
| [14:48:26] | ** Huijari too ** | |
| [14:48:27] | sphing: | anyone kno if GreyFoxx managed to get mythtv on those msntv2's? |
| [14:48:39] | stuarta: | yep. |
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| [14:49:07] | Merlin83b2: | Yep you know, or yep he did? ;-) |
| [14:49:11] | stuarta: | if he gets the acceleration going he'll be rather happy... |
| [14:49:30] | sphing: | so its linux-ized but with no accel? |
| [14:49:30] | stuarta: | he said he did the other day. :-P |
| [14:49:42] | ** stuarta has run out of information ** | |
| [14:50:07] | Merlin83b2: | $150 for refurbished units. |
| [14:50:08] | Merlin83b2: | Nice. |
| [14:50:15] | sphing: | wtf? |
| [14:50:18] | stuarta: | us only though... |
| [14:50:19] | Merlin83b2: | http://www.msntv.com/pc/buy/refurbished.asp |
| [14:50:23] | Merlin83b2: | Yep, US only. |
| [14:50:24] | sphing: | they're like $2 on ebay |
| [14:50:28] | Merlin83b2: | Oh, heh. |
| [14:50:35] | sphing: | no joke |
| [14:50:47] | sphing: | like $2 with $20 shipping |
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| [14:56:58] | sphing: | lol @ gb4 |
| [14:57:07] | stuarta: | !trout gb4 |
| [14:57:07] | ** MythLogBot slaps gb4 with a trout on behalf of stuarta... ** | |
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| [14:59:02] | sphing: | stuarta: best part is he has no idea |
| [14:59:46] | stuarta: | now where did I put my cluebat???? |
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| [15:05:44] | cmeyer: | Anyone have any luck getting saa7134 cards working? I have a super-cheap one that's letting me see composite in, but not TV. |
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| [15:07:16] | dasOp_: | I had luck |
| [15:07:21] | dasOp_: | or I wouldnt call it luck |
| [15:07:31] | dasOp_: | took me long enough to actually be considered work |
| [15:08:00] | dasOp_: | the debian sarge saa7133 driver didnt like my card much tho |
| [15:08:06] | dasOp_: | so I upgraded |
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| [15:08:31] | anester: | Nickserv anester anester |
| [15:08:41] | dasOp_: | I'd change pass |
| [15:11:28] | anester: | I setup mythtv and it works great except for one channel the sound stutters horribly, thought it might be the slow computer, so I set it up on my faster pc and still the same problem. This only happens on one channel all other channels look great and sound great, does anyone know what might be the problem |
| [15:11:46] | stuarta: | dvb? |
| [15:11:58] | anester: | no just normal cable |
| [15:12:20] | anester: | this channel happens to be a hdtv channel could that be a problem |
| [15:12:33] | stuarta: | it is your only hd channel? |
| [15:13:12] | anester: | I do not know that, its CBS |
| [15:14:08] | anester: | I thought about trying out the newer .20 build to see if that would fix my problem, would .20 address this you think |
| [15:14:26] | stuarta: | given 0.20 doesn't exist, no |
| [15:14:43] | anester: | I thought it was on the cvs server |
| [15:14:45] | anester: | to build |
| [15:15:24] | stuarta: | what you are talking about is svn version, and you don't run that blindly without being on -dev & -commits lists for at least 2 weeks |
| [15:15:42] | anester: | ohh |
| [15:16:07] | stuarta: | try hitting + on the keypad to change to an alternate audio track. |
| [15:16:18] | anester: | k |
| [15:19:21] | anester: | If that works is there a setting to set that channel to do that automatically in the channel setup screen |
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| [15:22:11] | anester: | anyway on to a new question about digital TV, I was wondering is there a card out that can recieve the digital signal so I can have not only my normal cable channels but also the movie channels I get with digital TV. |
| [15:22:58] | sphing: | anester: you have to go throught a stb as far as i kno |
| [15:25:00] | anester: | thats what I thought. So I would not have control over the channels with mythtv. An option would be to add another tuner card that would be just hooked up to the tuner box and I can make manual schedules on that I just have to make sure I set the STB to the right channel at the right time. |
| [15:27:27] | sphing: | anester: you can control the stb from within myth |
| [15:27:36] | sphing: | either an ir blaster or through serial/usb |
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| [15:28:19] | anester: | is there a site I can read up on doing this. Are all stb's similar. |
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| [15:32:10] | anester: | found it on the faq thanks for the help |
| [15:34:24] | anester: | What is a good cheap IR Blaster that works for linux |
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| [16:09:27] | Huijari: | why won't xmltv emerge? it compiles fine, but then whines that there's no rule to make target install. is there an easy solution or should i edit the makefile myself? |
| [16:21:57] | d64: | sounds to me like some simple error in the makefile |
| [16:22:25] | d64: | it did emerge fine for me though, just a few days ago |
| [16:22:51] | Huijari: | hmm, i think this problem is somehow related to perl |
| [16:23:09] | Huijari: | bad makefile line: ' $(NOECHO) $(NOOP)' at Makefile.PL line 963. |
| [16:23:09] | Huijari: | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| [16:23:09] | Huijari: | !!! ERROR: media-tv/xmltv-0.5.39 failed. |
| [16:23:09] | Huijari: | Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1894: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 941: Called src_compile xmltv-0.5.39.ebuild, line 205: Called perl-module_src_compile |
| [16:23:24] | Huijari: | (the newest version doesn't even compile) |
| [16:24:00] | d64: | hmm looks like i have keyworded xmltv as ~x86 |
| [16:24:07] | d64: | so at least THAT version compiled for me |
| [16:24:16] | Huijari: | my whole system is ~x86 :P |
| [16:24:25] | d64: | mine isn't, could have something to do with that |
| [16:24:32] | Huijari: | i think i need some perl module |
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| [16:24:34] | d64: | i just masked the mythtv related packages |
| [16:24:43] | Huijari: | but i don't know which one |
| [16:24:50] | d64: | did you check bugs.gentoo.org |
| [16:24:57] | Huijari: | nope |
| [16:25:02] | Huijari: | tried googling though |
| [16:25:37] | d64: | well doesn't look like any of those bugs are related to your sit |
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| [16:38:18] | hashbang: | heya |
| [16:38:48] | Beirdo: | hey #! |
| [16:39:03] | stuarta: | #!/bin/lart self |
| [16:39:24] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:39:57] | hashbang: | I've recently set up a MythTV box, and I'm pretty impressed so far. :-) |
| [16:40:10] | Beirdo: | good |
| [16:40:46] | hashbang: | (2*Nova-T DVB-T, 1*Bt878 for Composite In, DVD writer, 300G disc, Celeron 1.7, 512M memory, nVidia 440MX, homebrew VGA->RGB SCART cable) |
| [16:41:16] | hashbang: | oh, and a Ruwido Infraboard IR keyboard/mousepad. |
| [16:41:17] | Beirdo: | not enough disk ;) |
| [16:41:26] | Beirdo: | you'll fill that in no time :) |
| [16:41:45] | hashbang: | Beirdo: it's not too bad – I want it mainly as an MP3 jukebox, and only a bit of TV |
| [16:41:53] | hashbang: | $ df |
| [16:41:53] | hashbang: | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| [16:41:53] | hashbang: | /dev/hde1 2688044 477492 2074004 19% / |
| [16:41:53] | hashbang: | /dev/hde6 9621848 23424 9109648 1% /tmp |
| [16:41:53] | hashbang: | /dev/hde7 1929068 426360 1404716 24% /var |
| [16:41:54] | hashbang: | /dev/hde8 14428928 6624832 7071132 49% /usr |
| [16:41:56] | hashbang: | /dev/shm 257788 0 257788 0% /dev/shm |
| [16:41:58] | hashbang: | /dev/hde5 76144900 26692860 49452040 36% /myth |
| [16:41:58] | Beirdo: | eeek |
| [16:42:00] | hashbang: | /dev/hde9 76904352 37680676 35317072 52% /myth/music |
| [16:42:02] | hashbang: | /dev/hde10 102474200 61480 97207260 1% /myth/emulators |
| [16:42:06] | Beirdo: | you really should use pastebin |
| [16:42:14] | hashbang: | sorry. :-/ |
| [16:42:31] | Beirdo: | you will definitely run outta space :) |
| [16:42:51] | Beirdo: | trust me, as soon as you start recording lots of cool TV crap... :) |
| [16:43:08] | hashbang: | Beirdo: nah, TV is mostly crap I can't be bothered to watch. |
| [16:43:10] | Beirdo: | I run 3 * PVR250, and I have a tough time keeping below 300G used out of 400G |
| [16:43:40] | hashbang: | the space I have there in /myth is enough for 25–50hrs, IIRC. |
| [16:43:53] | Beirdo: | 75G? |
| [16:44:05] | hashbang: | DVB-T, non-HD. |
| [16:44:12] | Beirdo: | maybe 20–30h |
| [16:44:29] | Beirdo: | not sure what bitrates they use on DVB-T |
| [16:44:43] | stuarta: | 1–2.5G per hour |
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| [16:44:47] | hashbang: | Beirdo: it varies, but a rule of thumb is 1.6GB/hr. |
| [16:45:04] | Beirdo: | that should do you for a wee bit of time then :) |
| [16:45:07] | Beirdo: | you'll get hooked |
| [16:45:10] | stuarta: | lots of action 2.5Gb/h, not much 1gb/h |
| [16:45:17] | hashbang: | Beirdo: the major channels go at ~3Mbit/s, IIRC. |
| [16:45:24] | hashbang: | Beirdo: shopping channels etc. are much less. |
| [16:45:36] | Beirdo: | who'd record the shopping channels? |
| [16:45:55] | hashbang: | Beirdo: just an example at the other end of the scale. |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:46:01] | Beirdo: | yeah |
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| [16:47:20] | hashbang: | about the only problems I have at the moment are a) udev integration with the ir-common event device nodes and b) slowness when watching picture-in-picture of two top-datarate channels. |
| [16:47:44] | Beirdo: | mythtv is great for many hours of mindless entertainment captured for watching at your convenience |
| [16:47:59] | hashbang: | I don't really watch much TV. |
| [16:48:02] | laga: | Beirdo: the setup or using it? |
| [16:48:11] | stuarta: | slowness would be your lack of cpu |
| [16:48:12] | hashbang: | I'm mainly planning on using it for documentaries and movies. |
| [16:48:18] | Beirdo: | Celeron 1.7G is not much CPU to be decoding 2 MPEG streams |
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| [16:48:41] | hashbang: | Beirdo: it's OK, providing one is lower datarate (e.g. More4) |
| [16:48:43] | Beirdo: | laga: both :) |
| [16:48:58] | d64: | i find that as i don't record any series programs and only record a few movies, i don't accumulate more than a few hours each week |
| [16:49:04] | hashbang: | also, I'm pretty sure I'm using XvMC, so lots should be offloaded from the CPU. |
| [16:49:10] | d64: | not too much to keep up with by burning dvds |
| [16:49:13] | hashbang: | (unless PiP has to be done on the CPU) |
| [16:49:30] | Beirdo: | pretty sure that at least one of the streams will be in the CPU |
| [16:49:42] | hashbang: | d64: exactly; I've had my fill of Trek, B5, etc... |
| [16:49:43] | Beirdo: | as I don't use XvMC, not sure precisely |
| [16:50:08] | sphery: | I think you're right, Bierdo, PiP is software decoding |
| [16:50:17] | hashbang: | Beirdo: that's what I was thinking. I suspect XvMC can't do the PiP compositing itself. |
| [16:50:27] | ** hashbang could well be wrong, though. ** | |
| [16:50:46] | hashbang: | certainly CPU usage rockets compared with watching one channel normally (~20% CPU) |
| [16:51:09] | Beirdo: | it might be possible (technically) to make the GPU do the main picture then overlay a software-decoded frame over it |
| [16:51:18] | Beirdo: | but that'd be the best you could do, I bet |
| [16:51:30] | hashbang: | Beirdo: that's my guess, too. |
| [16:51:48] | hashbang: | Beirdo: otherwise you'd have to kinda wedge one mpeg stream into the other... |
| [16:51:55] | Beirdo: | as I never use livetv, I've never been bothered to look how they implemented it all |
| [16:52:20] | hashbang: | oh, also, the nVidia 8178 drivers allow one to configure interlaced mode, but the output isn't actually interlaced. |
| [16:52:33] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:52:37] | Beirdo: | I use ATI |
| [16:52:47] | Beirdo: | so far |
| [16:52:48] | hashbang: | yeah, ATI doesn't have XvMC. |
| [16:53:12] | hashbang: | I'm not going to buy any more nVidia hardware though, due to problems with their driver though. |
| [16:53:18] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [16:53:24] | Beirdo: | nvidia is good stuff |
| [16:53:42] | hashbang: | closed source rubbish, which unfortunately ATI are copying. |
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| [16:53:47] | Beirdo: | and their drivers are way less bitchy than the ATI ones |
| [16:54:00] | hashbang: | fortunately, at least, the Free ATI drivers are OK for most purposes. |
| [16:54:09] | __rkulagow: | ghaushe: here? |
| [16:54:09] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:54:11] | hashbang: | also, it's easier to get good-quality ATI cards. |
| [16:54:22] | Beirdo: | maybe in the UK |
| [16:54:25] | RaYmAn-Bx: | has anyone else ever experienced video going all "blue" suddenly? Both when playing dvd's and tv..(blue static looks rather weird.) |
| [16:54:28] | stuarta: | !seen ghaushe |
| [16:54:28] | MythLogBot: | ghaushe has not been seen here |
| [16:54:34] | Beirdo: | __rkulagow: if he is, he's hiding well |
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| [16:54:47] | hashbang: | the nVidia OEMs don't seem to care too much having a sharp picture, or avoiding colour tint. |
| [16:54:49] | Beirdo: | might be under another nick |
| [16:55:05] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [16:55:13] | hashbang: | RaYmAn-Bx: card? driver? |
| [16:55:19] | Beirdo: | mythuser: you another bot? |
| [16:55:27] | Beirdo: | why bother? |
| [16:55:41] | laga: | mythuser: prolly some lame script |
| [16:55:49] | Beirdo: | !seen laga |
| [16:55:49] | MythLogBot: | laga is here and has been idle for 8 seconds |
| [16:55:50] | mythuser: | Beirdo, erm... laga is on #mythtv-users right now.... |
| [16:55:59] | Beirdo: | definitely lame :) |
| [16:56:13] | __rkulagow: | yeah, just checking. not everyone uses a deducible irc nick. |
| [16:56:15] | __rkulagow: | later |
| [16:56:15] | laga: | !trout mythuser |
| [16:56:15] | ** MythLogBot slaps mythuser with a trout on behalf of laga... ** | |
| [16:56:16] | RaYmAn-Bx: | hashbang: intel i915, i810 driver..it only seems to happen when I play a dvd (which works fine the first time) and then afterwards all video is messed up..also, it only seems to mess up if xine is started from within mythfrontend |
| [16:56:16] | stuarta: | polaris irc? what's that crap.... |
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| [16:57:02] | laga: | RaYmAn-Bx: that reminds me of some old bug in xfree/early x.org where applications would mess up Xv |
| [16:57:37] | hashbang: | RaYmAn-Bx: sometimes I get purple/green still output from mplayer. exiting mythfrontend (and sometimes killing X) seems to fix it. |
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| [16:58:29] | hashbang: | RaYmAn-Bx: I don't think Xv/XvMC/drivers are completely bug-free. :-) |
| [16:58:43] | hashbang: | (and that's disregarding mplayer/xine/w32codec stuff) |
| [16:58:43] | Beirdo: | nothing is completely bug-free |
| [16:58:51] | Beirdo: | except maybe the Sahara Desert |
| [16:59:24] | Beirdo: | or the north pole |
| [16:59:25] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:59:54] | sphery: | Gotta love that... I'm getting paid to sit around all day so I'm available to spend about an hour a day helping out with real work, and I planned to spend the rest of the tiime doing some remote hacking on Myth code to make a few patches this week... |
| [17:00:06] | sphery: | And of course my systems are not responding |
| [17:00:19] | sphery: | Either a power outage or 'net is down. |
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| [17:00:40] | Beirdo: | stuarta: looks to be a hacked version of mirc |
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| [17:00:58] | laga: | sphery: you can still read the source via trac :) |
| [17:01:00] | stuarta: | current in 2001 AFAICT |
| [17:01:08] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [17:01:21] | ** Beirdo ponders ** | |
| [17:01:40] | Beirdo: | let's test something |
| [17:01:43] | RaYmAn-Bx: | hashbang: yeah..it's just weird it only seems to happen if xine is launched from within mythfrontend..if I launch either directly it works just fine |
| [17:01:52] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o Beirdo | |
| [17:02:11] | hashbang: | RaYmAn-Bx: check that your video-output settings are the same for both/using same config file/using same command line. |
| [17:02:16] | Mode for #mythtv-users by Beirdo!n=gjhurlbu@unaffiliated/beirdo : +m | |
| [17:02:22] | Mode for #mythtv-users by Beirdo!n=gjhurlbu@unaffiliated/beirdo : -m | |
| [17:02:24] | Beirdo: | idiot |
| [17:02:33] | Mode for #mythtv-users by Beirdo!n=gjhurlbu@unaffiliated/beirdo : +b %mythuser!*@* | |
| [17:02:42] | Beirdo: | oh, it's just ban now? |
| [17:02:43] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [17:02:50] | Mode for #mythtv-users by Beirdo!n=gjhurlbu@unaffiliated/beirdo : -b %mythuser!*@* | |
| [17:03:02] | Beirdo: | that's dumb, it used to just mute them |
| [17:03:12] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [17:03:18] | Mode for #mythtv-users by Beirdo!n=gjhurlbu@unaffiliated/beirdo : -o Beirdo | |
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| [17:03:26] | d64: | a banned user cannot talk |
| [17:03:31] | d64: | at least on many networks |
| [17:03:39] | Beirdo: | true, nor can they join |
| [17:03:48] | d64: | nor are they kicked automatically just because of the ban |
| [17:03:49] | Beirdo: | +q used to let them join, but not speak |
| [17:03:50] | stuarta: | what, no kick ban? |
| [17:03:55] | d64: | so in a way it is a mute |
| [17:04:11] | Twiggy: | Hey I've got a bit of a stuttering problem since we added a second tuner/soundcard to the backend, and I'm curious if I were to add a third soundcard used purely for output (the backend is also a frontend) and leave the other two purely for input, would that help things out at all? |
| [17:06:41] | sphery: | laga, yeah, but the hard part is testing... |
| [17:06:51] | sphery: | Guess I won't post any patches 'til I get home. |
| [17:07:05] | ** Beirdo considers patching some lunch ** | |
| [17:07:48] | ** stuarta considers going home to get PIE! ** | |
| [17:07:57] | Beirdo: | mmmm, floor pie! |
| [17:08:09] | stuarta: | vege pie :) |
| [17:08:13] | hashbang: | Twiggy: eh? what kind of tuner has a built-in sound card? |
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| [17:08:21] | Beirdo: | no steak & kidney? |
| [17:08:27] | stuarta: | next time.... |
| [17:08:32] | Beirdo: | ah :) |
| [17:08:34] | hashbang: | oh, can any UK users comment on the reliability of the commercial skip feature with DVB-T? |
| [17:08:45] | stuarta: | hashbang: utter crap |
| [17:09:02] | hashbang: | stuarta: right – saves me the bother of testing it. :-) |
| [17:09:02] | Beirdo: | aka "your patches are welcome" :) |
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| [17:09:08] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:09:14] | stuarta: | goes from deteching perfectly, to nothing at all, to false positives |
| [17:09:33] | Beirdo: | you need to take the trout to your broadcasters |
| [17:09:37] | hashbang: | if (rand() >= 0.5) { |
| [17:09:38] | hashbang: | ... |
| [17:09:39] | hashbang: | } |
| [17:09:44] | stuarta: | depends, what shows, what channels, etc. |
| [17:10:00] | stuarta: | itv4 seems to work well. |
| [17:10:19] | stuarta: | ch5 hit & miss |
| [17:10:34] | Beirdo: | ya need to get Captain_Murdoch over in the UK for a few months :) |
| [17:10:47] | kormoc: | it's hit or miss on the us channels as well |
| [17:11:04] | Beirdo: | it works about 90% here |
| [17:11:05] | stuarta: | I just leave it on and set max skip length to 5 minutes |
| [17:11:23] | kormoc: | some channels it's 90% other's it's 0% and others is -90% |
| [17:11:31] | stuarta: | then if it misses them it won't skip when I tell it too. |
| [17:11:37] | kormoc: | I once had it flag a show entirely as commericals and not flag the commericals as all |
| [17:11:44] | Beirdo: | but lately I've just set it to playback at 1.35x and go do other stuff while the TV goes |
| [17:11:45] | hashbang: | kormoc: oopsie! |
| [17:12:23] | kormoc: | yeah, very odd to watch it just skip over the entire show :P |
| [17:13:08] | RaYmAn-Bx: | so, on linux, what's common cpu usage for playing various video with or without xv/xvmc? :P (I'm just curious, and I guess it would also be a good way to figure out whether acceleration features are actually being used) |
| [17:13:31] | Beirdo: | depends on the CPU, the resolution of playback, the video card |
| [17:13:46] | Beirdo: | different drivers require different amount of CPU |
| [17:13:47] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I know |
| [17:14:24] | Beirdo: | my ATI 9600 Pro running at 800x600 takes about 36% for X with mythfrontend taking 26% or so... on a Sempron 2800 |
| [17:14:25] | kormoc: | RaYmAn-Bx, the best way to tell is, is there a decrease with XvMC over Xv? |
| [17:14:32] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I guess I'm just thinking like 5% or 50% type thing..but I guess it doesn't really make sense out of context |
| [17:14:46] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Beirdo: that's the kind of thing I wanted, thanks |
| [17:15:05] | Beirdo: | how that will map to an nvidia card without xvmc, not sure :) |
| [17:15:10] | Beirdo: | not a problem |
| [17:15:16] | RaYmAn-Bx: | kormoc: tbh, not even sure if xvmc is supported by my card :P |
| [17:15:27] | hashbang: | RaYmAn-Bx: yow. my Celeron 1.7 uses ~20% CPU on mythfrontend when watching a DVB-T channel at 768x576. |
| [17:15:29] | kormoc: | my pentium d 820, X uses ~ 5% and mythfrontend uses ~10% with XvMC. |
| [17:15:42] | Beirdo: | hashbang: check the usage of X too |
| [17:15:44] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I get about 2–4% cpu usage playing a dvd at 1024x768 |
| [17:15:55] | hashbang: | RaYmAn-Bx: ATI cards have XvMC hardware, but it isn't exposed to the OS by the driver. |
| [17:16:06] | kormoc: | on my celeron d 2.13 ghz, X uses 7% and mythfrontend uses 11% |
| [17:16:11] | Beirdo: | XvMC is just GPU programming, no? |
| [17:16:11] | scopeuk: | my 433 celron with 3dfx banshe runs at 50 – 60% cpu usage playing back rtjepg at 800X600 |
| [17:16:22] | kormoc: | hashbang, I don't beleive ati's tech is XvMC... |
| [17:16:27] | RaYmAn-Bx: | hashbang: don't have an ati card though...builtin i915 graphics chip |
| [17:16:31] | Beirdo: | scopeuk: you are a brave user :) |
| [17:16:39] | scopeuk: | lunatic is a better wya to phrase it |
| [17:16:48] | scopeuk: | that box is entirely spare hardware |
| [17:16:59] | Beirdo: | I'd hope so |
| [17:17:10] | scopeuk: | in fact it was built for free from scavanged parts |
| [17:17:11] | Beirdo: | if you speced that out, I'd have to trout you :) |
| [17:17:25] | scopeuk: | :D |
| [17:17:35] | hashbang: | mine was spare, too, bar the disc, DVD-W and 2*Nova-Ts. |
| [17:17:40] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it's hardware mpeg2 decoding |
| [17:17:49] | Beirdo: | nothing wrong with using the crap you got, of course |
| [17:17:57] | scopeuk: | that was the idea |
| [17:18:03] | hashbang: | RaYmAn-Bx: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC |
| [17:18:09] | kormoc: | Beirdo, basically, it's the next step to the hardware dvd playback extention |
| [17:18:12] | scopeuk: | now im jsut thinkign i can use the rest of the crap in my cupboard as a backend proccesign cluster |
| [17:18:18] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [17:18:20] | nuxil: | hi all.. i have a couple of Q.. 1st is ther teletext support in mythtv? 2nd how do i set the thumbnail files for each move as the cover image for the movie? |
| [17:18:28] | Beirdo: | pretty sure the 9600 and above have MPEG2 in them |
| [17:18:51] | scopeuk: | nuxil it will pull subtitless of tt for you but not text as found on a norml tv |
| [17:18:54] | Beirdo: | but no way to access it |
| [17:18:56] | hashbang: | nuxil: I think I saw teletext support for analogue TV. |
| [17:19:02] | Beirdo: | that reminds me |
| [17:19:09] | Beirdo: | I should put that damned FX5500 in soon |
| [17:19:10] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:19:14] | hashbang: | nulltank`: but I don't think teletext is in 0.19. |
| [17:19:16] | hashbang: | for DVB |
| [17:19:35] | nuxil: | k. |
| [17:20:01] | d64: | anyway, i have read from places that in order to have two working tuners you also have to have two sound cards for the audio? this does not apply to dvb, does it? |
| [17:20:35] | Beirdo: | start tearing down the entertainment unit tonight anyways, so maybe I'll put that card in soon |
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| [17:20:50] | hashbang: | d64: seems not to be necessary here. |
| [17:21:08] | scopeuk: | i think i should 1. fidn a job 2. save up get a via epia with a unicrome card and twin tuners |
| [17:21:14] | hashbang: | d64: AFAICS, the mpeg stream is decoded and you get standard audio output from the PCM channel |
| [17:21:23] | nuxil: | hashbang, i have analog tv. im on a cable net |
| [17:21:24] | Beirdo: | job?! |
| [17:21:28] | Beirdo: | jobs are overrated |
| [17:21:35] | Beirdo: | and I should DO mine |
| [17:21:36] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:21:44] | Merlin83b2: | Heh. |
| [17:21:55] | scopeuk: | heh |
| [17:21:59] | scopeuk: | loking for my firstr |
| [17:22:19] | Beirdo: | well, I'm gonna go grab some lunch |
| [17:22:22] | nuxil: | the cabel provider also sends out several channels which is digital but they are pay channels |
| [17:22:22] | Merlin83b2: | Where do you live, scopeuk? |
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| [17:22:28] | Beirdo: | here's hoping they have some curry |
| [17:22:45] | scopeuk: | Merlin83b2 notts uk |
| [17:23:13] | Merlin83b2: | I got the uk part ;-) |
| [17:23:36] | nuxil: | how do i set the thumbnail files for each move as the cover image for the movie? |
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| [17:39:19] | Twiggy: | hashbang: doesn't, we have two tuners, two soundcards |
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| [18:00:29] | scopeuk: | wow my myth box jsut kicked in lol can here the other set of speakers behind me |
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| [18:05:49] | ** hashbang tries building SVN ** | |
| [18:06:53] | ** hashbang also notes he's also probably running without XvMC right now... ** | |
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| [18:13:01] | lcase: | anybody tried mythui with an via unichrome driver? |
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| [18:36:03] | Merlin83b: | !see juski |
| [18:36:30] | Merlin83b: | Where's your bot, Beirdo? |
| [18:36:41] | sona: | !seen juski |
| [18:36:41] | MythLogBot: | juski was last seen 9 hours 5 minutes 25 seconds ago |
| [18:36:43] | mythuser: | sona, Juski!*@* last seen was quitting at 04:31:16 (21/03/2006) from "It's stating: "not just the music it's the BEAT"" |
| [18:36:48] | Beirdo: | right there |
| [18:36:57] | Beirdo: | mythuser needs a lobotomy |
| [18:37:28] | Merlin83b: | Oh, heh. |
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| [18:37:40] | Merlin83b: | seen, not see. That should help. |
| [18:37:44] | Merlin83b: | Thanks sona :-) |
| [18:37:45] | Beirdo: | yup :) |
| [18:38:02] | Beirdo: | !foad |
| [18:38:16] | Beirdo: | that would be funny if that worked |
| [18:38:24] | Merlin83b: | My FE is using loads of cpu – wanted to see what Juski was getting since I know he has a similar setup. |
| [18:38:28] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
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| [18:41:29] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [18:41:44] | Beirdo: | commflagging isn't seeming to be doing squat on my AMD64 box right now |
| [18:41:45] | Beirdo: | fun |
| [18:42:07] | Beirdo: | "Building Detection Buffer" |
| [18:42:08] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [18:43:24] | Merlin83b: | :-( |
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| [18:46:23] | Beirdo: | I think I'll try on my PVR |
| [18:46:39] | Beirdo: | if it doesn't work there, I'll have to mumble |
| [18:47:36] | Merlin83b: | Ooh, mumbling. |
| [18:48:10] | Beirdo: | it seems to work there (Athlon box) |
| [18:48:17] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [18:48:23] | Beirdo: | would be nice to offload that |
| [18:48:44] | Beirdo: | 160fps on the sempron 2800 |
| [18:48:53] | Beirdo: | finding logo |
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| [18:51:31] | ^Riddler: | okay I have given up on Fedora... It was working and now its too much of a pain.. |
| [18:51:41] | ^Riddler: | anyone have a good tutorial on ubuntu? |
| [18:52:26] | Merlin83b: | Beirdo: What nice values fo you have your fe and be on? |
| [18:52:36] | Beirdo: | nice? |
| [18:52:45] | Beirdo: | whatever the defaults are |
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| [18:52:55] | Merlin83b: | Mind running a top and telling me? :-) |
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| [18:53:26] | kormoc: | ^Riddler, check the wiki |
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| [18:55:33] | ^Riddler: | Kormoc: I did.. didnt see anything in the wiki other than a small reference in the FAQ |
| [18:56:36] | laga: | ^Riddler: abarbaccia.com or something like that, i can never remember that url |
| [18:57:04] | Beirdo: | the frontend's not running |
| [18:57:21] | Beirdo: | and the backend's at 0 |
| [18:57:22] | ^Riddler: | Laga: k thanks thats the one I have.. I was on last night and someone was giving a different URL.. was hoping to see if there was something better.. no big thanx |
| [18:57:27] | Beirdo: | mythcommflag at 17 |
| [18:57:33] | Merlin83b: | Okay, thanks. |
| [18:58:12] | Beirdo: | 151fps on the commflag |
| [18:58:14] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [18:58:16] | laga: | ^Riddler: i hear mythtv on ubuntu is pretty straight forward. maybe you should read the official mythtv howto as well. some guy called "thehunter" made .debs, i believe |
| [18:58:20] | laga: | Beirdo: rice, baby! |
| [18:58:30] | Beirdo: | I wish it would work on the *f'ing* AMD64 though |
| [18:58:57] | ^Riddler: | laga: thanks I will.. i have been in fedora hell for too long I guess :-( |
| [18:59:32] | Fredde87: | Is it possible to give a input two sources? |
| [18:59:41] | Fredde87: | Or two combine two sources into one? |
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| [19:08:03] | Beirdo: | yay! |
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| [19:09:36] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
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| [19:10:02] | Beirdo: | no more mythuser |
| [19:10:17] | Beirdo: | and if he comes back with that nick, he will be bounced |
| [19:10:18] | kormoc: | hehe, nice |
| [19:10:18] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:10:21] | stuarta: | mwahahaha |
| [19:10:24] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
| [19:10:25] | Beirdo: | I just registered it |
| [19:10:25] | kormoc: | tho, why'd you get rid of xris too? :P |
| [19:10:33] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [19:10:41] | Beirdo: | you can't blame THAT one on me |
| [19:10:54] | stuarta: | we can try..... |
| [19:11:21] | kormoc: | I'd say it's 50/50 on if he's updating to fc5 or not |
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| [19:16:41] | stuarta: | anyone trying fc5 this week is most likely crazy |
| [19:17:45] | kormoc: | why's that? |
| [19:18:36] | Anduin: | New kernel, making work for nvidia (currently) and ivtv. |
| [19:18:43] | stuarta: | no reason, or the same reason I use svn.... |
| [19:25:09] | BigPeteB: | Hmm... mythweb doesn't work using Gentoo's nifty installer... |
| [19:25:14] | BigPeteB: | Anyone else have problems with it? |
| [19:25:38] | d64: | do you mean that it installs but doesn't work |
| [19:25:55] | d64: | because i did just some time ago install it on gentoo and it required a few changes to be made by hand |
| [19:26:25] | BigPeteB: | Yeah, it installs, but the page complains about not being able to find the database |
| [19:28:43] | d64: | yeah |
| [19:28:46] | d64: | that's the problem |
| [19:29:10] | d64: | you have to edit the two files that the readme tells you to.. and then add a "directory" block to your apache config which has the correct allowoverride setting |
| [19:29:23] | d64: | i was puzzled for some time by that last part |
| [19:29:39] | BigPeteB: | config/conf.php and .htaccess? |
| [19:29:48] | d64: | yes i think those two |
| [19:30:54] | BigPeteB: | Hmm. Do you know what you had to change? |
| [19:31:03] | BigPeteB: | Cause, I looked at them, and they seem fine, except it doesn't work. |
| [19:31:05] | Beirdo: | read the README |
| [19:31:14] | d64: | well the other of them has the settings for database location and l/p, right |
| [19:31:25] | d64: | if those are correct, then it's probably the missing allowoverride |
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| [19:31:49] | d64: | i think it's intended that you do that by hand, i didn't notice the package making any effort to add it |
| [19:33:45] | BigPeteB: | Oh, there it goes. The reload option on apache's init script didn't do what it should have |
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| [19:50:36] | Beirdo: | argh |
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| [20:06:44] | stuarta: | hola Juski! |
| [20:07:02] | Juski: | hola! |
| [20:07:07] | laga: | hi guys |
| [20:07:30] | Juski: | hiya laga |
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| [20:09:16] | stuarta: | hi titsup |
| [20:13:38] | Juski: | got all the bits for my latest mad invention now :-) |
| [20:15:46] | stuarta: | making anything interesting? |
| [20:15:51] | Juski: | touch controlled bathroom dimmer switch ;-) |
| [20:16:02] | Juski: | backlit, behind a glass tile |
| [20:16:13] | Juski: | and a secondary switch by the side of the bath |
| [20:17:43] | stuarta: | that's not for a bathroom, it's for a boudwah |
| [20:17:48] | Juski: | lol |
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| [20:18:01] | ** stuarta can't spell ** | |
| [20:18:19] | Juski: | boudoir |
| [20:18:39] | stuarta: | that's it. couldn't pick the right vowels... |
| [20:18:47] | laga: | google is weird. |
| [20:18:48] | laga: | The Boudoir Dressing Service is a luxurious and discreet dressing service based in North London for men who like to cross dress. |
| [20:18:57] | laga: | i didn't know you guys swing that way |
| [20:19:24] | Juski: | shhhh... don't tell everyone what I get up to at the weekend |
| [20:19:36] | laga: | heh |
| [20:21:38] | Juski: | just cannibalised the remote controlled dimmer I bought today & worked out where to put the opto-isolator |
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| [20:36:31] | Beirdo: | 2006-03–21 15:35:58.385 AFD Error: Unknown decoding error |
| [20:36:31] | Beirdo: | [mpeg2video @ 0x1267650]invalid mb type in I Frame at 0 25 |
| [20:36:31] | Beirdo: | Segmentation fault |
| [20:36:35] | Beirdo: | hahahahahaha |
| [20:36:36] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [20:36:48] | Beirdo: | time to try a --rebuild on that file |
| [20:41:18] | stuarta: | anyone else seen those [mpeg2video..] errors when commflag starts up? |
| [20:42:14] | mchou: | stuarta: yeah, always thought that's "normal" |
| [20:42:38] | Juski: | don't look in my logs much |
| [20:42:51] | stuarta: | it's recent. where recent is defined as last 1–2months... |
| [20:43:10] | mchou: | naw. been there since at least 18 |
| [20:43:21] | Beirdo: | mine does that all the time |
| [20:43:28] | stuarta: | s/at last/at least/ |
| [20:43:53] | Beirdo: | let's see if that rebuild helped this file |
| [20:43:58] | Beirdo: | if not, it's getting deleted |
| [20:44:44] | Beirdo: | kaBOOM |
| [20:44:50] | Beirdo: | screw that recording |
| [20:45:06] | mchou: | Beirdo: is this on a64? |
| [20:45:11] | Juski: | nothing pertaining to commflag in my log |
| [20:45:11] | Beirdo: | no, athlon |
| [20:45:24] | Beirdo: | on the A64, it won't commflag at ALL with current SVN |
| [20:45:29] | Beirdo: | it sits and spins |
| [20:45:33] | stuarta: | they don't actually 'say' commflagging |
| [20:45:33] | mchou: | hmm |
| [20:45:59] | Beirdo: | I'll try to track it down later |
| [20:46:09] | Beirdo: | for now, I'll just flag on the Athlon |
| [20:46:27] | stuarta: | sit n spin, detect nothing. about the same really... |
| [20:46:48] | Juski: | got a lot of [mpeg2video @ 0xb73e5520]ac-tex damaged at 21 16 |
| [20:46:48] | Juski: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb73e5520]Warning MVs not available |
| [20:47:07] | stuarta: | that's them. They appear just after commflagging starts. |
| [20:47:14] | Juski: | never notice any playback glitches though |
| [20:47:40] | stuarta: | no, it's more likely a dubious use of the ffmpeg libs, cause thats where the errors come from |
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| [20:50:09] | stuarta: | not terribly important, doesn't cause any other problems.... |
| [20:50:29] | mchou: | god, I got to stop having dinners at friend's places |
| [20:50:45] | mchou: | ham hocks giving gas all damn day |
| [20:50:56] | stuarta: | hehehe.... |
| [20:51:34] | mchou: | I feel sorry for all the guests who had 2 bowls (I only had one) |
| [20:52:16] | mchou: | maybe they got lucky and exploded last night :) |
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| [20:58:55] | Beirdo: | stuarta: I think it's likely corrupted captures in my case |
| [20:59:03] | Beirdo: | ivtv does bitch out occasionally |
| [20:59:20] | stuarta: | anything is possible, I see it on perfectly good recordings... |
| [21:00:43] | Beirdo: | yeah, weird |
| [21:01:11] | Beirdo: | but that one recording I had sent it ape-shit |
| [21:01:15] | Beirdo: | so I deleted the recording |
| [21:01:15] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:01:30] | stuarta: | I think it's where it's in its initial phase... |
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| [21:01:56] | Beirdo: | well, this one borked 16% into the file |
| [21:02:02] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [21:02:32] | ** stuarta is testing 1.7x-2x timestretch ** | |
| [21:02:46] | Beirdo: | oh yikes |
| [21:02:52] | Beirdo: | I haven't gone that high yet |
| [21:02:58] | mchou: | I'm not surprised if there are no motion vectors in the firest few frames |
| [21:03:02] | Beirdo: | I peaked out at 1.4x so far |
| [21:03:06] | mchou: | first* |
| [21:03:13] | stuarta: | it's an episode I think I've seen before... |
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| [21:03:43] | stuarta: | normally use 1.2–1.35x |
| [21:04:19] | mchou: | anything >1.5x is silly |
| [21:04:31] | Beirdo: | yeah, that's pretty comfortable for me. 1.25–1.35 usually |
| [21:04:32] | stuarta: | sounds silly, serves a purpose... |
| [21:04:49] | Beirdo: | mchou: nobody ever will need more than 640kB RAM either |
| [21:05:19] | kormoc: | Beirdo, no! no! anything >640kB RAM is silly! |
| [21:05:29] | Beirdo: | I MIGHT be able to stand a golf game at 2.5x |
| [21:05:42] | Beirdo: | anything slower is unbearable |
| [21:05:46] | stuarta: | does it go that high? won't go past 2x for me |
| [21:05:51] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:06:02] | mchou: | I dont watch sports except bike racing :) |
| [21:06:05] | Beirdo: | we could make it go that high with a small patch, I bet |
| [21:06:28] | stuarta: | yeah, think there's a hard limit programmed in.... |
| [21:06:31] | Beirdo: | my question is, does it just increase the framerate, or does it drop frames? |
| [21:07:01] | stuarta: | dunno... |
| [21:07:04] | Rsx024: | when i can actually get my myth working i am gonna watch golf on 2x just for the pure joy of knowing i can |
| [21:07:06] | Beirdo: | I doubt I have the CPU power to play at 2.5x if it's increased framerate :) |
| [21:07:23] | Beirdo: | 75fps is a lot of decoding |
| [21:07:47] | Beirdo: | be the smoothest way to do it though, I guess |
| [21:08:10] | stuarta: | probably does increase the frame rate. My cpu use goes up.... |
| [21:08:21] | Beirdo: | yeah, I think it does too |
| [21:08:56] | Beirdo: | of course, the TV is only gonna be displaying 30fps (NTSC) or 25fps (PAL) |
| [21:09:17] | Beirdo: | so the TV-out chips will be effectively resampling the framerate |
| [21:09:56] | Beirdo: | I guess if you use a non-analog TV-out that may not be the case |
| [21:09:56] | laga: | those little bastards do that anyways, usually :/ |
| [21:10:13] | Beirdo: | yup |
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| [21:14:18] | stuarta: | we'll I don't yet put it out on a tv, so it doesn't matter... |
| [21:14:44] | Beirdo: | it's pretty smooth on my TV :) |
| [21:15:34] | Juski: | oh man I love technology. now dimming a light by touching a ceramic tile ;-) |
| [21:15:58] | dtm: | when it comes to the automatic deletion of mythtv content, i understand that it's going to keep autodeleting stuff that's already been scheduled.. but what about systematic or series based scheduling? |
| [21:16:09] | Juski: | no mains to be seen at the user interface ... nicely |
| [21:16:19] | dtm: | what if i scheduled a series to be recorded forever? will it be autoexpired forever? |
| [21:16:30] | dtm: | even after i've disabled autoexpiry |
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| [21:16:50] | stuarta: | setup the recording rule without autoexpirey |
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| [21:17:37] | Pitchin_uk: | on my myth recordings i seem to be recording the subtitles on some of the channels?? |
| [21:17:46] | RaYmAn-Bx: | bah, does www.ivtvdriver.org work for anyone atm? |
| [21:18:08] | laga: | RaYmAn-Bx: yep |
| [21:18:12] | stuarta: | Pitchin_uk: nothing wrong with that.... |
| [21:18:51] | RaYmAn-Bx: | laga: weird, it just suddenly stopped working entirely while I was checking out from svn (And it still doesn't work from here) |
| [21:18:53] | Juski: | recordings I made pre 0.19 have subtitles too in some cases.. only now I can see them ;-) |
| [21:19:26] | Pitchin_uk: | yeah there is – maybe i meant i dont get any audio and only get audio prompts like "man enters room........." |
| [21:19:42] | Juski: | that's not subtitles |
| [21:19:47] | stuarta: | ah, the audio described track |
| [21:19:47] | Pitchin_uk: | I suppose it some kind of subtitles for the blind |
| [21:19:51] | Juski: | that's myth playing the wrong audio |
| [21:20:06] | Beirdo: | "man whips it out...." |
| [21:20:10] | stuarta: | use '+' to change audio tracks |
| [21:20:25] | Pitchin_uk: | yeah something like that |
| [21:20:27] | Juski: | braille porn.. now there's an idea for somebody |
| [21:20:37] | Pitchin_uk: | even once i have recorded a prog?? |
| [21:20:52] | Juski: | presumably |
| [21:20:57] | stuarta: | all the audio tracks are kept, but it is supposed to pick the best one |
| [21:21:11] | stuarta: | the audio described track is normally mono, low bitrate |
| [21:21:22] | stuarta: | while the normal is stereo, high bitrate. |
| [21:21:26] | Juski: | again it's a case of me feeling the need to ask what do STBs do and do they ever get it wrong? |
| [21:21:30] | Pitchin_uk: | what happens if im not watching it through myth and it does that – any ideas?? |
| [21:21:51] | Juski: | use VLC |
| [21:21:57] | stuarta: | dvd players have alternative language options.... |
| [21:22:06] | Pitchin_uk: | im using xbox media centre which usually works |
| [21:22:19] | Juski: | you can select audio tracks with that I think |
| [21:22:35] | Pitchin_uk: | and works for the stuff recorded on a bbc channel |
| [21:22:35] | stuarta: | I had a movie like that, was a PITA to convert to what I needed. |
| [21:22:40] | Juski: | everything else is configurable so it should be a cinch |
| [21:23:00] | Juski: | yeh I've still got a rip of the South Park movie whose primary audio track is Spanish |
| [21:23:31] | stuarta: | normally the correct track is on the lower pid, but sometimes they get it wrong... |
| [21:23:35] | Juski: | I need to swap em over but every tool I've tried only lets me extract the first ones |
| [21:24:24] | stuarta: | extract them all, then remux them back the way you want. |
| [21:24:32] | stuarta: | PITA. |
| [21:24:53] | Juski: | bit hard to extract a secondary audio track in virtualdub & suchlike |
| [21:25:07] | stuarta: | one of the reasons getting something like mythburn right is hard. |
| [21:25:26] | stuarta: | you can do it with ffmpeg and friends... |
| [21:25:40] | Juski: | I never burn a disc without checking it in a software DVD player |
| [21:25:44] | stuarta: | probably projectx too.... |
| [21:25:57] | Juski: | slight snag there.. it's not mpeg2 |
| [21:25:59] | D-side: | damn you, xbmcmythtv. damn you to hell. |
| [21:26:33] | stuarta: | ahh, you still have some analogue don't you? |
| [21:26:46] | Juski: | stuarta: it's xvid |
| [21:26:51] | Juski: | ripped & transcoded |
| [21:27:11] | Juski: | took ages to rip it too & I don't know where the disc is (a likely story I know) |
| [21:27:15] | stuarta: | ahh, I don't convert to mpg4/xvid things I may want to burn |
| [21:28:26] | Juski: | well if I'd figured on having as much HDD as I do I'd have left the streams as mpeg2 |
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| [21:32:53] | Rsx024: | whats easier to install myth ubuntu or fedora? |
| [21:33:08] | kormoc: | Rsx024, which ever one you know better |
| [21:33:16] | Rsx024: | lol neither :( |
| [21:33:26] | _Zoom_: | then go with Gentoo, heh |
| [21:33:41] | Rsx024: | was using knoppmyth wasnt working out so now im on ubuntu |
| [21:33:53] | Pitchin_uk: | is there anyway i ca only set it to record the proper audio track?? |
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| [21:34:41] | stuarta: | Pitchin_uk: no, since you can select the audio track in myth anyway |
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| [21:35:29] | Pitchin_uk: | thats a shame – any reason why it started to be a problem?? |
| [21:35:54] | stuarta: | it's very rare that the incorrect channel is picked. |
| [21:36:29] | Pitchin_uk: | unfortunately i think it is the track xbox media centre picks :( |
| [21:36:44] | Rsx024: | _zoom_ are you serious with the gentoo? |
| [21:36:44] | stuarta: | we saw this 5 months ago IIRC |
| [21:37:16] | stuarta: | Rsx024: he's definitely taking the piss... |
| [21:37:55] | Rsx024: | i am freakin totally lost!! lol |
| [21:38:09] | kormoc: | Rsx024, go with fedora then, and use jarod's guide |
| [21:38:18] | Rsx024: | ok |
| [21:38:20] | stuarta: | Rsx024: whatever you are the most comfortable with... |
| [21:38:21] | kormoc: | Rsx024, you don't want to go with gentoo unless you know a bit more then you seem. |
| [21:39:00] | Rsx024: | yea i dont really no much bout linux just herd that fedora and ubuntu or some of the mroe "windows Like" linux distros |
| [21:39:34] | Rsx024: | ok well i got a fedora4 dvd right here |
| [21:39:39] | Rsx024: | looks like i better install it |
| [21:40:16] | kormoc: | Rsx024, http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
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| [21:41:08] | Rsx024: | thanks |
| [21:41:30] | Rsx024: | well ill be back in like 20 min when fedora is done installing |
| [21:41:46] | Rsx024: | thanks |
| [21:41:49] | Rsx024: | for your help |
| [21:41:58] | kormoc: | no problems |
| [21:42:36] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [21:42:41] | Rsx024: | fedora doesnt have the crap like ubuntu where you cant use root right? every thing i type in terminal has to contain sudo here in ubuntu |
| [21:42:48] | Beirdo: | wonder which Cingular phone we should get |
| [21:42:59] | Beirdo: | Rsx024: sudo bash |
| [21:43:02] | Beirdo: | then passwd root |
| [21:43:06] | Beirdo: | problem solved |
| [21:43:09] | kormoc: | Rsx024, fedora has root, but if you want, you can sudo /bin/bash on ubuntu and get a root shell fine |
| [21:43:22] | Beirdo: | it's like that for a reason. |
| [21:43:27] | Rsx024: | ok thanks ill write that down icase i come back to it |
| [21:43:45] | Rsx024: | is the slvr on cingular? |
| [21:44:12] | Rsx024: | they look pretty cool |
| [21:44:21] | Beirdo: | I'd love to get a blackberry, but my fiancee would not approve |
| [21:44:26] | Rsx024: | i got a razr its pretty nice and easy to upgrade |
| [21:44:31] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [21:44:32] | Rsx024: | blackberry is nice |
| [21:44:39] | kormoc: | the slvr is on cingular, aye |
| [21:44:50] | Beirdo: | razr radio quality is crap from what I've been told |
| [21:45:03] | iMx: | it is |
| [21:45:07] | Rsx024: | what you mean radio? like sound output? |
| [21:45:23] | iMx: | phone is slow as fuck as well, i have to wait for it to catch up when using SMS :) |
| [21:45:24] | Beirdo: | I mean the radio... cell phones work over radio waves :) |
| [21:45:28] | iMx: | no like crap quality |
| [21:45:43] | iMx: | screen is crap in bright light, you cant see it |
| [21:45:48] | Fredde87: | is it possible to combine two xmltv grabbers? |
| [21:45:56] | Beirdo: | I want a phone that works well, and I don't care if it has a stupid camera, etc |
| [21:45:57] | Rsx024: | yea the bright light thing |
| [21:46:01] | Beirdo: | it's gonna be a phone |
| [21:46:06] | Beirdo: | not a toy |
| [21:46:08] | laga: | Fredde87: sure, xmltv comes with utilities to concatenate two files together |
| [21:46:32] | Rsx024: | imx did you unlock unbrand your phone? |
| [21:46:47] | iMx: | nah |
| [21:46:52] | Beirdo: | I might just use my unlocked 8890 to start |
| [21:47:00] | Fredde87: | laga could you guide men in the right direction... where are they located? Or what are they called? |
| [21:47:13] | Rsx024: | you should try some people get better reaction time from their razr when they do better signal |
| [21:47:26] | Rsx024: | flex it with new version of software |
| [21:47:32] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [21:47:38] | ** kormoc likes his motorola v330 ** | |
| [21:47:39] | Beirdo: | not interested in the razr anyways |
| [21:47:42] | iMx: | i sold it to my brother and got a new one :) |
| [21:47:47] | Rsx024: | oh lol |
| [21:47:56] | iMx: | motorola phones suck full stop as far as im concerned :) |
| [21:48:02] | Rsx024: | haha |
| [21:48:05] | Beirdo: | seen way too many bad reviews trashing the radio functionality |
| [21:48:13] | kormoc: | I like motorola phones, can't really fault them for much at all |
| [21:48:14] | iMx: | i hated one when i had a motorola before....and still got another! |
| [21:48:16] | Beirdo: | nah, the startacs were superb |
| [21:48:30] | Rsx024: | those were clasic |
| [21:48:32] | iMx: | maybe you americans cant....but us in europe get far better phones :) |
| [21:48:45] | Rsx024: | oh didnt know you were in europe |
| [21:48:48] | Beirdo: | there's GSM here too |
| [21:48:55] | kormoc: | iMx, meh, most people I know disagree with me. |
| [21:48:56] | Beirdo: | Cingular is GSM |
| [21:48:58] | laga: | Fredde87: uh, dunno. look thru the xmltv package, i suppose |
| [21:49:06] | Fredde87: | ok thx |
| [21:49:08] | Rsx024: | yea i met some one from england and the phone he gets for free was better than one we pay 150+ for |
| [21:49:11] | iMx: | hehe american phones look like they did 2–3 years ago here! |
| [21:49:31] | Beirdo: | I don't care what the phone LOOKS like |
| [21:49:36] | Beirdo: | I want it to work properly |
| [21:49:53] | iMx: | :) |
| [21:50:01] | Beirdo: | the trend to having funky looking phones that SUCK as phones is disconcerting |
| [21:50:16] | Beirdo: | and I put the razr on that list |
| [21:50:18] | Rsx024: | you know the free phones are usually the most durable lol |
| [21:50:23] | kormoc: | iMx, so, what has europe been doing to upgrade beyond GSM? |
| [21:50:25] | laga: | Beirdo: but it totally needs a java vm, a mp3 player, a camera and so on to be hip! |
| [21:50:28] | Beirdo: | I still have a 6190 |
| [21:50:28] | iMx: | where as in the US you get phones from 3 years ago that still dont work properly ;) |
| [21:50:47] | Beirdo: | kormoc: there's no need to go past GSM :) |
| [21:50:47] | bagleabuse is now known as achew22 | |
| [21:50:47] | laga: | kormoc: UMTS. :) |
| [21:50:47] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:51:03] | iMx: | 3g is being pushed here, we dont have cdma |
| [21:51:04] | Beirdo: | in densely populated areas, GSM is quite nice |
| [21:51:15] | kormoc: | Beirdo, there sure is, GSM isn't that good at all |
| [21:51:23] | Beirdo: | ummm, OK. |
| [21:51:28] | Beirdo: | if you say so :) |
| [21:51:41] | Beirdo: | it works quite well in Europe :) |
| [21:51:43] | D-side: | the razr's a piece of shit. |
| [21:51:43] | achew22: | When I'm compiling qt (in gentoo) do I have to expressly say that I want mysql support to it? |
| [21:51:52] | D-side: | I dream of the SLVR though. |
| [21:51:53] | iMx: | more than likely :) |
| [21:51:54] | kormoc: | Beirdo, I have a nice artical about it all, the issues with GSM and why it's getting upgraded |
| [21:51:58] | Beirdo: | razr is a sucky phone. |
| [21:52:02] | kormoc: | Beirdo, http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2002/10/GSM3G.shtml |
| [21:52:05] | iMx: | USE='+mysql' |
| [21:52:22] | achew22: | can I add that to /etc/portage/portage.use? |
| [21:52:24] | D-side: | Beirdo: have you seen the slvr? |
| [21:52:28] | Beirdo: | kormoc: much of it's techno-bullshit that only applies in non-densely-populated areas, I bet |
| [21:52:32] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:52:34] | D-side: | ah, more fun with gentoo i see. |
| [21:52:34] | iMx: | yeah i believe so, while since ive played with gentoo |
| [21:52:39] | achew22: | yep... |
| [21:52:43] | D-side: | good thing I washed my hands of you last night. |
| [21:52:46] | iMx: | it fucked me off one time to many, went back to debian :) |
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| [21:52:52] | achew22: | ha ha... |
| [21:53:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, not at all. |
| [21:53:15] | achew22: | everyone knows that gentoo users are good people... |
| [21:53:16] | iMx: | having to spend 7 days building a system......im passed those days :) |
| [21:53:17] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it applys to high population areas |
| [21:53:18] | Huijari: | i just love gentoo <3 |
| [21:53:22] | Beirdo: | K |
| [21:53:23] | D-side: | the only thing thats pissing me off about gentoo + mythtv is the fact that the PSP transcoding target is broken, which is bullshit since my ffmpeg supports encoding to that format. |
| [21:53:25] | Beirdo: | anyways... |
| [21:53:34] | achew22: | thats too bad |
| [21:53:36] | Beirdo: | I won't go with Verizon Wireless |
| [21:53:43] | iMx: | gentoo users = nerds :) |
| [21:53:47] | Beirdo: | they blow dead bear in Puerto Rico |
| [21:53:54] | D-side: | are you there now? |
| [21:53:58] | Beirdo: | not yet |
| [21:54:03] | Beirdo: | just planning ahead |
| [21:54:08] | achew22: | does anyone know what phone standard cricket runs on? |
| [21:54:14] | achew22: | is it GSM or is it CDMA? |
| [21:54:28] | D-side: | if its CDMA, its a pile of crap. |
| [21:54:32] | Beirdo: | my fiancee's phone loses signal repeatedly between work and home, and has shit signal at her parents' house AND at our house |
| [21:54:43] | iMx: | not t-mobile is it? : |
| [21:54:43] | kormoc: | CMDA has a lot of tech benifits |
| [21:54:49] | Beirdo: | so "Can you hear me now?" "Fuck no, you are using Verizon" |
| [21:54:49] | achew22: | yeah it does |
| [21:54:56] | kormoc: | Verizon just fucked them over due to the bad implimentation |
| [21:55:01] | D-side: | kormoc: is that so? |
| [21:55:07] | achew22: | and verizon blows because they lock the phones |
| [21:55:09] | kormoc: | D-side, http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2002/10/GSM3G.shtml |
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| [21:55:20] | iMx: | so Verizon sucks does it? (dont know being from London) :) |
| [21:55:23] | Beirdo: | CDMA has a big downside in highly populated area |
| [21:55:27] | D-side: | verizon's coverage in my area can't be beat though. |
| [21:55:31] | Beirdo: | it gets too noisy, etc. |
| [21:55:35] | achew22: | iMx ohh yes policy wize... |
| [21:55:39] | achew22: | they have very good service |
| [21:55:45] | D-side: | Beirdo: i dunno about that. i live in one of the most densely populted areas of the US, and my CDMA service is impeccable. |
| [21:55:47] | Beirdo: | yeah, if I were in NYC, NJ, etc... I'd do Verizon maybe |
| [21:55:48] | achew22: | if you get a phone from another source they are a GREAT option |
| [21:55:50] | kormoc: | Beirdo, CDMA can handle more people on a bandwidth then GSM can, it's just verizon overfills the bandwidth. |
| [21:55:52] | Beirdo: | just NOT in PR |
| [21:56:02] | D-side: | yeah i dont blame you for that |
| [21:56:16] | Beirdo: | kormoc: it's the noise level issues, I don't recall all the details |
| [21:56:16] | iMx: | sounds like our T-Mobile....except theirs doesnt even work half the time :) |
| [21:56:18] | D-side: | kormoc: verizon ALWAYS oversells their territories. |
| [21:56:26] | Beirdo: | and Verizon blows |
| [21:56:27] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:56:29] | achew22: | lol |
| [21:56:35] | achew22: | get a good phone and verizon is bearable |
| [21:56:36] | kormoc: | D-side, eactly, but that's not a CDMA issue, that's a verizon issue |
| [21:56:40] | D-side: | look at their bullshit ptt service. |
| [21:56:40] | achew22: | just barely |
| [21:56:41] | ** Beirdo is now working for a Verizon-owned compnay ** | |
| [21:56:42] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:56:44] | kormoc: | Beirdo, that article goes into it :) |
| [21:56:53] | D-side: | Beirdo: haha i know |
| [21:57:02] | Beirdo: | they can lick my... oh never mind |
| [21:57:04] | achew22: | Beirdo ha ha ha... bite the hand that feeds you — good idea |
| [21:57:14] | kormoc: | achew22, he's out of there soon enough |
| [21:57:21] | achew22: | then bit away |
| [21:57:26] | achew22: | bite* |
| [21:57:30] | D-side: | Beirdo: all you people feel that way. i had to call you guys in NYC and they answered the phone with a "thank you for calling... <sigh> verizon" |
| [21:57:39] | D-side: | i actually laughed out loud at that. |
| [21:57:41] | achew22: | ha ha ha ha |
| [21:57:48] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:58:15] | achew22: | I have a friend who works tech support at motorola and he got me the unlock codes and stuff for my phone to turn it into the not bullshit version! |
| [21:58:31] | achew22: | I got a good phone and I got good coverage — its amazing |
| [21:58:46] | kormoc: | with t-mobile, after 3 months, they'll unlock your phone if you ask |
| [21:58:52] | D-side: | i wonder what in nuvexport checks ffmpeg's version for PSP and ipod encoding capability |
| [21:59:02] | achew22: | just remove the check.. |
| [21:59:26] | achew22: | its python right? so you can edit the source EZ |
| [21:59:38] | kormoc: | it's perl |
| [21:59:46] | achew22: | I was close |
| [21:59:46] | kormoc: | D-side, you sure it does any checks at all? |
| [21:59:53] | kormoc: | achew22, not really |
| [22:00:02] | kormoc: | they both start with a p perhaps. |
| [22:00:05] | achew22: | they are all languages to me |
| [22:00:05] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. Maybe a Nokia 6061 |
| [22:00:17] | achew22: | languages that aren't compiled |
| [22:00:19] | D-side: | kormoc: honestly, no. when nuvexport's menu fires up though it shows as (disabled) |
| [22:00:26] | D-side: | "it" being those options. |
| [22:00:38] | achew22: | which ones are disabled? Ipod and psp? |
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| [22:01:19] | D-side: | 9. Export to PSP (disabled) |
| [22:01:24] | D-side: | 10. Export to iPod (disabled) |
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| [22:02:45] | kormoc: | D-side, it checks the codecs that ffmpeg can handle, and uses that to enable/disable exports |
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| [22:03:28] | D-side: | kormoc: perhaps my ffmpeg-fu is weak... tell me what you think of this |
| [22:03:33] | kormoc: | D-side, so you'd need to enable psp and aac codecs |
| [22:03:36] | D-side: | E psp psp mp4 format |
| [22:03:49] | D-side: | DEA aac |
| [22:03:55] | D-side: | E = Encode, no? |
| [22:04:06] | kormoc: | hrm |
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| [22:04:13] | kormoc: | what version of ffmpeg? |
| [22:04:34] | D-side: | ffmpeg version CVS, build 3342336 |
| [22:04:51] | D-side: | ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 |
| [22:05:24] | D-side: | theres a newer rev available for my distro, but the 'E' there makes me wonder |
| [22:05:41] | achew22: | OHH MAN I WANT MECHCOMMANDER ON LINUX! |
| [22:06:04] | kormoc: | E is encode, aye |
| [22:06:16] | D-side: | see why i'm lost? |
| [22:06:49] | kormoc: | D-side, ffmpeg changed api's, and nuvexport is attempting to use the newer format, perhaps? |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | I know xris complains about how often ffmpeg does that |
| [22:07:15] | D-side: | well, the easy way to find out is to get that newest ffmpeg on here. |
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| [22:08:46] | D-side: | hm. idea. |
| [22:09:16] | D-side: | kormoc: you should know now that around here, 90% of the time i bitch about something not working its my own damn fault. |
| [22:10:04] | laga: | 90% is quite a good quota in here ;) |
| [22:10:54] | D-side: | hey, you know me. sometimes i'm on top of things, other times my head is wedged firmly in my ass. |
| [22:10:58] | D-side: | it happens. |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:11:32] | stuarta: | pass that man the 'special' tool |
| [22:12:37] | laga: | the LART? ;) |
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| [22:13:03] | stuarta: | nah, the one like the foot-mouth extraction tool, but a bit different |
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| [22:13:59] | D-side: | well, looks like its a 10%'er for me this time. my idea was useless, and this is still showing "disabled" |
| [22:15:22] | Fredde87: | laga I cant find anything, the only tool I found is for the dutch to combine their nickelodeon with some other channel :/ |
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| [22:15:51] | ** stuarta looks in the toolbox ** | |
| [22:16:18] | kormoc: | D-side, just update ffmpeg :) |
| [22:17:07] | Beirdo: | BAH |
| [22:17:17] | Beirdo: | stupid doctor's office |
| [22:17:41] | Beirdo: | "oh, your record has been shredded and we don't have a copy in our system" |
| [22:17:43] | Beirdo: | fcuk |
| [22:17:56] | D-side: | what! |
| [22:18:08] | ** Beirdo looks forward to more stupid vaccinations that are totally unnecessary ** | |
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| [22:18:25] | Beirdo: | it was the doctor I went to when I was a child, haven't been there for 14 years |
| [22:18:44] | kormoc: | vaccinations don't last 14 years :P |
| [22:18:44] | D-side: | oh. thats slightly better than |
| [22:18:46] | D-side: | then |
| [22:18:52] | Beirdo: | some do |
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| [22:18:58] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [22:19:01] | laga: | Fredde87: tv_cat – Concatenate XMLTV listings files. |
| [22:19:01] | stuarta: | Beirdo's slowly becoming a non citizen.... |
| [22:19:04] | iMx: | sure they can do....degree...masters...doctorate... |
| [22:19:08] | Beirdo: | some don't require a booster until you are > 40 |
| [22:19:10] | iMx: | that can take 14 years |
| [22:19:15] | iMx: | student vacation! |
| [22:19:27] | Fredde87: | laga thx, you are a star! |
| [22:19:36] | achew22: | in the file /etc/portage/portage.use whats the syntax for adding something to the use statement? |
| [22:19:38] | Pitchin_uk: | silly question i know but how an i tell what mythtv encodes (?) to – what im trying to say is it mpeg4 |
| [22:19:45] | Beirdo: | but I'll get the blood tests done to prove I am immune, that should do the trick |
| [22:19:48] | Beirdo: | but fuuuuck |
| [22:20:09] | laga: | Fredde87: thanks, i feel cute now :/ |
| [22:20:13] | Beirdo: | I don't need Measles or Chicken Pox vaccination, I had both as a child |
| [22:20:13] | Fredde87: | :P |
| [22:20:27] | Beirdo: | but I bet they'll make me take it anyways |
| [22:20:31] | stuarta: | Pitchin_uk: what do you start with? dvb? |
| [22:20:36] | Beirdo: | actually, had both in the same f'ing summer |
| [22:20:44] | ** kormoc didn't know there was a chicken pox vaccination ** | |
| [22:20:49] | Beirdo: | yup |
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| [22:21:01] | Beirdo: | Varicella or something (the official name) |
| [22:21:10] | kormoc: | so very odd |
| [22:21:14] | stuarta: | normally have it when you are about 2 |
| [22:21:23] | Beirdo: | yeah, well, I did |
| [22:21:23] | kormoc: | I just had chicken pox. |
| [22:21:32] | Beirdo: | and then I caught it anyways at around 8 |
| [22:21:34] | roger55: | achew22, category/packagename useflag1 useflag2 -useflag3 but this is a question for #gentoo really |
| [22:21:36] | Beirdo: | same for measles |
| [22:21:38] | kormoc: | and Measles too |
| [22:21:53] | Beirdo: | got vaccinated properly, caught it anyways |
| [22:21:59] | roger55: | achew22, and the file is called /etc/portage/package.use |
| [22:22:02] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [22:22:06] | kormoc: | and mono from a blasted redhead... |
| [22:22:09] | D-side: | hey roger55. |
| [22:22:11] | achew22: | roger55 I was reading teh docs and it says something about global use keys, how do I add to that list |
| [22:22:15] | Beirdo: | no comment, kormoc |
| [22:22:25] | Pitchin_uk: | yeah i use dvb |
| [22:22:25] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [22:22:43] | roger55: | achew22, global useflags come from /etc/make.conf's USE= line see /etc/make.conf.example |
| [22:22:51] | achew22: | thankyou roger55 |
| [22:22:53] | roger55: | D-side, hey |
| [22:23:02] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it's even worse then that, She got it from the crazy canadian girl, so they worked together to give me mono. |
| [22:23:07] | D-side: | roger55: you use nuvexport? |
| [22:23:14] | stuarta: | Pitchin_uk, so you start with mpeg2, so it depends on the settings of your transcoders.... |
| [22:23:17] | laga: | kormoc: what's a "mono"? |
| [22:23:18] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [22:23:39] | stuarta: | laga: riding your bicycle with the front wheel in the air. |
| [22:23:42] | kormoc: | laga, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis |
| [22:23:59] | roger55: | D-side, not currently. need to get everything going on the silverstone box first. I'm almost done though. nvram-wakeup needs finishing. |
| [22:24:16] | laga: | stuarta: cool stuff, i didn't know girls could do that to you |
| [22:24:36] | D-side: | damnit. it sstill not working. |
| [22:24:40] | stuarta: | two different slangs for two completely different things.... |
| [22:25:00] | D-side: | roger55: i cant figure out why PSP and ipod transcode targets arent working, since ffmpeg seems to support them just fine. |
| [22:25:07] | D-side: | i was just wondering if they worked on your setup. |
| [22:25:14] | opello: | D-side: get your host/ip thing fixed? |
| [22:25:58] | D-side: | opello: yeah. needed to manually edit the db. |
| [22:26:15] | kormoc: | laga, girls are the reason for doing stupid things like riding a bike on one wheel, gotta impress them! |
| [22:26:33] | opello: | D-side: where? |
| [22:26:34] | roger55: | D-side, haven't tried yet. I think I don't even have USEflags set to support psp/ipod since I still don't have an ipod. ;) |
| [22:26:37] | D-side: | programs recorded from a certain hostname attempt to play back from that same backend, and the ips changed. once i realized what was going on, it wasnt so bad. |
| [22:26:44] | opello: | oh |
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| [22:26:58] | D-side: | my mysql-fu is very weak. |
| [22:27:02] | laga: | kormoc: like, writing obfuscated perl that prints "i love you"? |
| [22:27:13] | opello: | D-side: so there were 2 different hostnames in the 'hostname' field of programs? |
| [22:27:16] | stuarta: | hmmm, editing a recording, and I can see the start & stop codes for the ad breaks right in the overscan area at the top... |
| [22:27:18] | kormoc: | laga, exactly |
| [22:27:18] | D-side: | so back to the drawing board on this psp transcode target. pfeh. |
| [22:27:58] | kormoc: | stuarta, program it into mythcommflag to detect them! :) |
| [22:28:06] | D-side: | opello: two instances of BackendServerIP in the settings table. each had a hostname and ip contained in it. |
| [22:28:13] | laga: | kormoc: i wonder if the GF would appreciate that. i should try ;) |
| [22:28:13] | D-side: | the ip for one of them was incorrect. |
| [22:28:17] | stuarta: | kormac: it's on my wishlist :) |
| [22:29:48] | opello: | D-side: ahh |
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| [22:31:29] | Rsx024: | ok back with a fresh install of fedora4 |
| [22:32:34] | kormoc: | laga, add in some ascii roses! |
| [22:34:13] | D-side: | heh. if i could code, i bet i could figure out whats going on here. |
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| [22:34:46] | Beirdo: | OK, time to go home |
| [22:35:09] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [22:35:28] | Fredde87: | how often does mythtv grab xmltv listings? |
| [22:35:38] | Fredde87: | if it is told to do so automaticlly that is |
| [22:35:39] | laga: | kormoc: yay, thanks |
| [22:35:50] | mchou: | Fredde87: that depends where you live |
| [22:35:55] | Fredde87: | sweden |
| [22:36:04] | mchou: | Fredde87: beats me then |
| [22:36:08] | Fredde87: | ok :S |
| [22:36:21] | Fredde87: | I dont want to flood the xmltv server |
| [22:36:43] | Fredde87: | but I want my epg to be able to quickly notify changes in the schedule |
| [22:36:58] | Fredde87: | roufly how often can I update it? Once an hour? Once a day? |
| [22:37:02] | mchou: | Fredde87: define "quick" |
| [22:37:25] | mchou: | myth by default updates it once every day |
| [22:37:36] | mchou: | for the "next day" |
| [22:37:54] | Fredde87: | like if I have set it to record a show and there is a game before it and the game goes on longer than expected it should be able to notice this and reschedule it |
| [22:37:56] | mchou: | there is no need to update more often than that |
| [22:37:58] | D-side: | hah. wtf sense does this make? |
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| [22:38:11] | D-side: | kormoc: interested in how i just kluged the crap out of this? :) |
| [22:38:16] | Fredde87: | ok Ill set it for once a day |
| [22:38:18] | D-side: | kludged? shrug. |
| [22:38:27] | mchou: | Fredde87: I doubt providers of epg datat are going to be updating THAT |
| [22:38:34] | mchou: | data* |
| [22:38:42] | Fredde87: | ok |
| [22:38:49] | Fredde87: | thx |
| [22:40:04] | kormoc: | D-side, sure |
| [22:41:16] | D-side: | kormoc: i commented out what appeared to be error checks. |
| [22:41:36] | D-side: | its happily encoding now. how those error checks were actually performed, i couldnt say. i have no code skills. |
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| [22:42:11] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [22:43:15] | stuarta: | kormac: this is cool, both the start and stop codes are the same.... |
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| [22:57:45] | scopeuk: | any one here speek sweedish? |
| [22:58:11] | gakalkag: | norwegian. pretty close:) |
| [22:58:27] | gakalkag: | i understand |
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| [22:59:01] | scopeuk: | i pulled a post scritp off a comunity update on a web site and id liek to knwo what it says the translators ive foudn dont seam to give anythign but givberish |
| [22:59:06] | scopeuk: | mind takign a look? |
| [22:59:26] | gakalkag: | sure |
| [22:59:35] | scopeuk: | P.S. Snoken we have looking underline anti Mine 2 and able serene say that wes nots stayed disappointment! |
| [23:01:04] | gakalkag: | was that swedish? |
| [23:01:09] | scopeuk: | i belvie so |
| [23:01:41] | scopeuk: | its seams to translate ruffley to english with a translator but its nto cleen and makes little sense |
| [23:01:44] | gakalkag: | looks like english |
| [23:02:05] | scopeuk: | oops i pulled the sposedlytranslated version |
| [23:02:07] | scopeuk: | sorry |
| [23:02:27] | scopeuk: | vi har sett fram emot Mine 2 och kan lugnt säga att vi inte blev besvikna! |
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| [23:03:04] | gakalkag: | that more like it |
| [23:03:16] | gakalkag: | i will try |
| [23:03:24] | scopeuk: | ok thankyou |
| [23:04:36] | Fredde87: | we have been looking forward to Mine 2 and can defently say that we werent disappointed |
| [23:04:40] | Fredde87: | is what it says |
| [23:04:54] | gakalkag: | yes |
| [23:04:59] | scopeuk: | thankyou both |
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| [23:05:32] | gakalkag: | you'r quicker than me :-D |
| [23:05:44] | scopeuk: | heh your both alot quicker than me |
| [23:05:53] | scopeuk: | for started id have had to have learnet sweedish |
| [23:05:56] | Fredde87: | well I am swedish so I had a small advantage :P |
| [23:06:04] | mithro: | anyone here developing mythburn? i have a patch which fixes a bug when the transcode factor is bigger then 2.0 |
| [23:06:40] | scopeuk: | mithro belvie the devs can be found int #mythtv |
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| [23:07:17] | Fredde87: | anyone ever used tv_cat before? Im getting a "this file's encoding iso-8859–1 differs from others' ISO-8859–1 – aborting" error. |
| [23:07:42] | Fredde87: | both seem to be ISO-8859–1 so I cant really se whats wrong :S |
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| [23:15:42] | Kelerion: | evening all |
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| [23:18:40] | stuarta: | evening |
| [23:18:48] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [23:19:01] | Beirdo: | that OpenGL fade stuff BLOWS on my setup |
| [23:19:08] | stuarta: | ditto... |
| [23:19:33] | stuarta: | I reckon Chutt's the only one with the right hardware... |
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| [23:20:01] | Beirdo: | I think if you have nvidia stuff, etc, it's likely not bad |
| [23:20:13] | Beirdo: | I'm using ATI, and it's using software rendering right now |
| [23:20:39] | stuarta: | same, quite like my ATI cards though. |
| [23:20:41] | Beirdo: | takes a minute to go from the main menu to the Media Library menu |
| [23:20:42] | Beirdo: | fuck that |
| [23:21:21] | stuarta: | hmmm....4.9Gb->2.8Gb transcode.... |
| [23:21:38] | Beirdo: | I thought I'd see it before disabling it :)( |
| [23:22:45] | stuarta: | bye bye 4 data streams.... |
| [23:22:54] | stuarta: | 5 if you count subtitles |
| [23:23:19] | scopeuk: | iwhoudlent mind cutting my recordgns down by a factor of 2 |
| [23:23:44] | stuarta: | it was an mpeg-mpeg trancode tooo... |
| [23:24:03] | scopeuk: | with me whould be rtjpeg to — anyhting else |
| [23:24:26] | stuarta: | better off with a dvb card methinks.... |
| [23:24:29] | Beirdo: | Ahhh, much better with OpenGL off |
| [23:24:49] | stuarta: | Beirdo: you use the -O command line trick? |
| [23:24:52] | scopeuk: | stuarta id love too but my budget doesent permit |
| [23:24:59] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [23:25:01] | stuarta: | £40? |
| [23:25:08] | Beirdo: | set the setting in the DB |
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| [23:25:34] | stuarta: | ahh, the permanent one... |
| [23:25:38] | scopeuk: | stuata my total budget for my lefe til end of sumemr is £120 |
| [23:25:47] | Beirdo: | hell yeah |
| [23:25:59] | Beirdo: | while using this card, I will not be using OpenGL |
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| [23:28:03] | DMJC: | I've got a few issues |
| [23:28:15] | DMJC: | when i change channels the program is hanging sometimes |
| [23:28:38] | DMJC: | also, when I run mythfrontend as root my remote doesn't work |
| [23:28:48] | scopeuk: | then dont run it as root |
| [23:29:12] | Krazylegz: | Bought a bike. |
| [23:29:20] | Krazylegz: | Whoops. Wrong channel. |
| [23:29:26] | scopeuk: | hanging between chan swops fora few second to a minute is normal on my box put it down to it being steam powere though |
| [23:29:33] | Kelerion: | I bought a new laptop today.. am putting it through its paces now :) |
| [23:29:51] | scopeuk: | he |
| [23:29:58] | ** scopeuk wishes he could afford an old laptop ** | |
| [23:30:24] | Kelerion: | was payday today... a big customer finally coughed up their cash for an invoice they've had for 2 months |
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| [23:31:22] | dtm: | Kelerion: hooray |
| [23:31:28] | Kelerion: | am impressed so-far... installing ubuntu and it actually recognised the onboard wifi.. so am pretty impressed so far :) |
| [23:33:28] | scopeuk: | what is it |
| [23:33:36] | Kelerion: | qosmio |
| [23:33:38] | scopeuk: | i mena internal wifi |
| [23:33:43] | Kelerion: | intel |
| [23:33:57] | scopeuk: | yeh centrino was merged into te kernal a month or so back |
| [23:33:59] | Kelerion: | it's got a HD lcd.. first I've ever seen on a laptop |
| [23:34:15] | scopeuk: | oh vety prety |
| [23:34:17] | ** scopeuk is green ** | |
| [23:34:33] | scopeuk: | i rearly orta get a job |
| [23:34:58] | Kelerion: | wasn't bad though.. it's not brand new.. second hand.. but it's only a couple of months old.. paid 600.. which I thought was pretty good |
| [23:35:32] | scopeuk: | £/$? |
| [23:35:37] | Kelerion: | £ |
| [23:35:41] | scopeuk: | ntb |
| [23:35:48] | scopeuk: | gonan say in $ that whould be dirt cheep |
| [23:35:53] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [23:35:57] | DMJC: | does upgrading from 0.18 to 0.19 trash your config files? |
| [23:36:08] | scopeuk: | always take a backup |
| [23:36:11] | scopeuk: | then its irelivent |
| [23:36:38] | scopeuk: | any way i need to go sleep gotta be up in 7 hours |
| [23:36:48] | scopeuk: | and me with less than 8 hours sleep is like waking a log |
| [23:36:50] | Kelerion: | didn't trash anything of mine.. but I cheated.. I went from svn to .19.. then back to svn |
| [23:36:56] | stuarta: | scopeuk: know the feeling.... |
| [23:37:05] | Kelerion: | rest well :) |
| [23:37:10] | scopeuk: | ater |
| [23:37:13] | scopeuk: | later* |
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| [23:37:22] | Beirdo: | sleep? |
| [23:37:23] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:37:32] | Kelerion: | I remember the *concept* :) |
| [23:38:54] | Kelerion: | http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?s . . . ;coid=-30600 |
| [23:38:56] | Kelerion: | thats the one |
| [23:39:02] | Kelerion: | am waiting for something to go wrong |
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| [23:39:51] | stuarta: | ugly bugger of a thing.... |
| [23:39:51] | eleazar123: | hey guys, i'm havin a problem where the overscan works great when the nvidia loads up, and when xfce originally loads, but then xfce changes resolutions and the overscan like kicks off and i get the blue bars around video and the upper left and right side of the screen are squashed in :( |
| [23:39:55] | Kelerion: | well.. similar to that anyways |
| [23:40:09] | DMJC: | hehehe |
| [23:40:20] | DMJC: | mythtv... one of the few things that can crawl this system |
| [23:40:26] | DMJC: | building it at least |
| [23:40:33] | Kelerion: | I don't like the big speakers and volume control.. kinda spoils the style of it all |
| [23:43:32] | eleazar123: | anybody? :( |
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| [23:44:55] | Kelerion: | eleazar123.. no idea.. I don't use xfce |
| [23:45:01] | stuarta: | eleazar123: seem to remember there being something in the faq about that |
| [23:45:15] | stuarta: | need to use xfce to set the background to black.... |
| [23:47:02] | eleazar123: | hm..well it worked perfectly 2 days ago : i didn't change anything, so i was thinking it was maybe a setting or something i might've fiddled with |
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| [23:48:12] | Kelerion: | I used to say stuff like that.. "I didn't change anything..... but I might have fiddled with something"... |
| [23:49:10] | ** eleazar123 goes through his config one more time ** | |
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| [23:58:16] | Ryushin: | Has anyone even heard of a ATI card displaying recorded video in what looks like inverted colors? |
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