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| [00:28:14] | akaias: | all of a sudden I am getting this error when I try to run several different apps: ymbol lookup error: /usr/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/ximcp.so.2: undefined symbol: ??lcFileName |
| [00:28:14] | akaias: | . I'm reemerging xorg-x11 now but what would cause this error? and if remerging it doesn't fix it what options do I have? |
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| [00:30:09] | akaias: | whops,. sorry. wrong channel. |
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| [00:34:34] | kormoc: | akaias, there's a helpful util called revdep-rebuild, it's in gentoolkit, and it helps fix those issues, but checking the dynamic linking consistancy and reemerging broken packages |
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| [00:41:09] | ** xris grumbles about having to wait until tomorrow to start downloading fc5 ** | |
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| [00:53:24] | Likwid: | i wish myth didnt tae so long to compile |
| [00:53:44] | Likwid: | i get an error at then and have to do it all over again :( |
| [00:54:34] | kormoc: | Likwid, usually it will just only recompile the parts that need it. |
| [00:55:22] | dtm: | Likwid: why do you have to do it all over again? |
| [00:55:24] | Likwid: | well iwas was updating .18 to .19 |
| [00:55:27] | dtm: | and why are you getting errors |
| [00:55:37] | Likwid: | i didnt add a group |
| [00:55:44] | kormoc: | yeah? |
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| [00:55:48] | dtm: | Likwid: are you building an RPM or what |
| [00:55:56] | Likwid: | emerge, using gentoo |
| [00:56:11] | dtm: | it can't continue? |
| [00:56:14] | kormoc: | Likwid, ahh, yeah |
| [00:56:23] | kormoc: | dtm, it can. but it doesn't by default |
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| [00:56:51] | Likwid: | it was at the end when it says blah blah... [ok] and the third one failed becuae i didnt add a group, i forgot what it was called |
| [00:56:58] | kormoc: | Likwid, tho permission errors like that usually arn't fatel and don't required a rebuild |
| [00:57:07] | Likwid: | this one was fatal :( |
| [00:57:40] | kormoc: | Likwid, which 0.19 version? |
| [00:58:22] | Likwid: | its been like 2 and a half hours, i went shopping for an IC for lirc to build a reciever, looked around at Newark InOne and bought some stuff, had dinner, looked around ebay and its still going lol |
| [00:58:30] | kormoc: | Likwid, Your recordings folder must be owned by the user 'mythtv' now |
| [00:58:33] | kormoc: | Likwid, that one? |
| [00:58:38] | Likwid: | nah |
| [00:58:50] | Likwid: | i dont have a mythtv user, and the last compile went fine |
| [00:58:52] | kormoc: | Problem adding mythtv us |
| [00:58:52] | kormoc: | er? |
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| [00:59:25] | kormoc: | Likwid, ahh, well, given that's a pkg_preinst, that errored out before the compile |
| [01:00:31] | Likwid: | is there any way to check those out before i do the compile if this one fails? |
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| [01:01:13] | kormoc: | Likwid, the ebuild does, and there's really not a way to do it by hand without knowing a lot bout the ebuild |
| [01:01:23] | kormoc: | Likwid, but in this case, your first install never actually installed. |
| [01:01:23] | Likwid: | that sucs |
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| [01:02:02] | kormoc: | Likwid, tho, I'll mention it to cardoe when he's around. We could move that check around in the ebuild or make it nonfatel. |
| [01:02:29] | Likwid: | kormoc: i never read anything about adding that group it mentioned, or adding a mythtv account, cause i read somewhere myth automatically makes that user |
| [01:02:48] | Likwid: | kormoc: cool thanks |
| [01:02:49] | kormoc: | Likwid, myth doesn't touch your users, it's not it's place to do so. |
| [01:03:07] | Likwid: | kormoc: then i must be reading some horrible tutorials lol |
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| [01:03:42] | kormoc: | Likwid, it's just that myth doesn't do any group/user stuff, cardoe in the ebuilds splits that out because it fits with the rest of the gentoo model (apache runs as apache, mysql runs as mysql, etc) |
| [01:03:58] | Likwid: | yea |
| [01:05:24] | Likwid: | kormoc: i almost cried when i came home and saw that the build failed :) |
| [01:05:59] | kormoc: | heh, understandably |
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| [01:12:07] | jeepgrand: | hey |
| [01:12:13] | jeepgrand: | could somebody please help me |
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| [01:12:45] | kormoc: | nope. Noone here can fix your problem. |
| [01:12:57] | jeepgrand: | i have a wintv go plus |
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| [01:13:10] | jeepgrand: | im trying to get it to work before i set it up with tv |
| [01:13:20] | kormoc: | so it's a bttv card? |
| [01:13:27] | jeepgrand: | when i watch tv its fine |
| [01:13:47] | kormoc: | so what's the issue? |
| [01:13:56] | jeepgrand: | but when i record the picture is all distorted but whn i watch teh recording the picture is fine |
| [01:14:12] | kormoc: | how are you recording? |
| [01:14:25] | jeepgrand: | wiht there program |
| [01:14:36] | kormoc: | does it run under linux? |
| [01:14:38] | jeepgrand: | wintv2000 |
| [01:14:41] | jeepgrand: | dont think so |
| [01:15:01] | kormoc: | so then it's absolutely useless in helping you with myth |
| [01:15:11] | jeepgrand: | o |
| [01:15:20] | jeepgrand: | u htink u could still help me |
| [01:15:42] | kormoc: | I think that if you want myth, you should try out knoppmyth. |
| [01:18:20] | jeepgrand: | please |
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| [01:18:38] | kormoc: | jeepgrand, you do understand you can not use myht under windows? |
| [01:18:57] | jeepgrand: | k |
| [01:19:04] | jeepgrand: | so where can i go for help |
| [01:19:09] | dtm: | for what help?! |
| [01:19:19] | jeepgrand: | how to fix th ecard |
| [01:19:23] | jeepgrand: | or the software |
| [01:19:32] | dtm: | to the manufacturer. you paid for support! |
| [01:19:50] | jeepgrand: | im seeing if i can get it fixed tonight |
| [01:20:03] | kormoc: | jeepgrand, none of use use windows for our tv, hence why we use myth. |
| [01:20:10] | jeepgrand: | k |
| [01:20:20] | kormoc: | jeepgrand, so none of us likely know how to fix your card, nor where to find help. |
| [01:20:40] | jeepgrand: | k |
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| [01:24:04] | dtm: | jeepgrand: you can try the manufacturer's site, google, or maybe even #windows |
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| [01:28:43] | monkey89: | couple of questions – first, is there a way to toggle mythtv being full screen? so i can watch it with the whole monitor but use it in a window in case I want to use the computer |
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| [01:33:02] | kormoc: | monkey89, you can have it in a window, it's a option in the frontend settings. |
| [01:33:15] | monkey89: | i know that – but I don't know how to switch it on the fly |
| [01:33:28] | monkey89: | kind of like the media center software from some other company ;) |
| [01:33:33] | kormoc: | you can't at the moment afaik |
| [01:33:44] | monkey89: | hm |
| [01:34:49] | monkey89: | well anyway, do you (or anyone else) know how to disable subpixel rendering on the OSD |
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| [01:35:51] | kormoc: | monkey89, I didn't know it did... |
| [01:36:14] | monkey89: | seems to on mine, but only on the OSD, not in the menus |
| [01:36:20] | kormoc: | it would be global if it id |
| [01:36:23] | kormoc: | *did |
| [01:36:31] | kormoc: | how does it look like it does? |
| [01:36:44] | monkey89: | red/blue colors around the text |
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| [01:37:05] | kormoc: | odd, that's what it would look like... |
| [01:37:09] | kormoc: | XvMC? |
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| [01:38:30] | monkey89: | whoops |
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| [01:56:11] | GooseX2: | hmm |
| [01:56:19] | GooseX2: | how do i set the remote controls for mythtv |
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| [02:01:17] | dtm: | mythtv is still deleting my old shows! |
| [02:01:26] | ** dtm bleats ** | |
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| [02:12:25] | Likwid: | ok i finally got mythtv emerged, but now i still cant watch live tv :( |
| [02:12:26] | Likwid: | tuner card is working fine, cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg works perfect |
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| [02:12:26] | shiznix: | hot diggity, custom filter 'linearblend,adjust,denoise3d=4' rocks |
| [02:12:26] | shiznix: | now the picture quality is as good as tvtime :D |
| [02:12:26] | sphing: | came back from spring break and mythbackend ate all my resources |
| [02:12:26] | sphing: | any ideas? |
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| [02:15:43] | dtm: | Likwid: try changing channels with xawtv and try with mplayer |
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| [02:17:19] | Likwid: | well it seems like if i dont get my remote working i wont be able to do anything |
| [02:17:28] | Likwid: | and i didnt get it working yet |
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| [02:17:48] | kormoc: | Likwid, did you install lirc? |
| [02:17:56] | Likwid: | yes |
| [02:18:03] | kormoc: | with the correct options? |
| [02:18:07] | Likwid: | i run irw and nothing happens |
| [02:18:14] | Likwid: | i thought i did it right |
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| [02:18:21] | kormoc: | what's your remote? |
| [02:18:27] | Likwid: | im using the PVR-350 remote |
| [02:18:33] | kormoc: | ahh, no idea about that |
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| [02:19:51] | Likwid: | i set the env var with LIRC_OPTS="--with-driver="hauppauge" |
| [02:20:05] | Likwid: | then emerge -av lirc |
| [02:20:07] | kormoc: | Likwid, that's a make.conf option :P |
| [02:20:14] | Likwid: | heh |
| [02:20:18] | Likwid: | that may be why :) |
| [02:20:43] | Likwid: | do i put that line under my USE variables for the kernel? |
| [02:20:56] | kormoc: | Well, it shouldn't matter, as they get exported, but for the future updates, you won't need to keep resetting it |
| [02:21:04] | kormoc: | Likwid, nah, just the same on it's own line |
| [02:21:31] | Likwid: | ok thank you :) i really appreciate all your help guys |
| [02:21:43] | Likwid: | im sorry im an idiot and i dont think things through :) |
| [02:21:49] | kormoc: | tis okay :P |
| [02:22:13] | dtm: | ^_^ |
| [02:22:17] | Likwid: | hehe |
| [02:23:08] | dtm: | i was just bleating like a fool a minute ago coz i cant figure out how to make mythbackend not delete my older shows. |
| [02:23:16] | dtm: | IT HAS NO RIGHT !! |
| [02:23:21] | dtm: | the mythtv giveth and it taketh away |
| [02:23:23] | kormoc: | dtm, disable autoexpire? :P |
| [02:23:39] | dtm: | kormoc: yes! that is the mystery apparently. |
| [02:23:47] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [02:24:39] | Likwid: | lol |
| [02:24:40] | Likwid: | nice |
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| [02:26:22] | ** kormoc sighs. ** | |
| [02:26:36] | kormoc: | I've recorded 4779480 seconds with myth. |
| [02:26:47] | dtm: | :-o |
| [02:26:48] | kormoc: | from July 1st, 2005 |
| [02:27:16] | dtm: | 55 continuous days' worth. |
| [02:27:20] | kormoc: | yup |
| [02:27:33] | kormoc: | 2040 epsodes of 107 shows. |
| [02:28:14] | dtm: | i wonder how much of that was commercials ^_^ |
| [02:28:21] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [02:28:22] | Likwid: | arghh i did that and now its giving me an error function src_compile line 122 exitcode 2; (no error message) when i try to compile lirc :( i hate this |
| [02:29:03] | kormoc: | on normal shows, it's 7 mintes out of 30, or 23% |
| [02:29:22] | kormoc: | or 12.7 days |
| [02:29:40] | ** kormoc should add that to the stats ** | |
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| [02:32:49] | eleazar123: | hey guys, how would i go about finding out where my dvd-rw is? (like /dev/dvd) b/c right now myth is set to play dvd's in /dev/dvd, but when i click play dvd it just sits there :( |
| [02:33:11] | kormoc: | eleazar123, dmesg will tell you |
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| [02:34:47] | eleazar123: | hm.. i don't see it in there, what should i be looking for? (i don't see anything relating to cdrom/dvdrom/dvd/anything like that) |
| [02:35:53] | shiznix: | anyone Aussies know of a resource for channel icons for free-to-air channels ? |
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| [02:41:17] | shiznix: | eleazar123: dmesg | grep hd[abcdef] |
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| [02:41:37] | shiznix: | look for something with 'DVD' in there, eg. mine says hdc: SONY DVD RW DRU-510A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| [02:43:13] | shiznix: | so i make a symlink called /dev/dvd that points to /dev/hdc `ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd` |
| [02:43:59] | eleazar123: | ahh, ok i'll grep for that |
| [02:44:18] | eleazar123: | nothing returned for dmesg |grep dvd |
| [02:44:19] | eleazar123: | :( |
| [02:44:43] | eleazar123: | i just put replaced the old cdrom, so maybe thats why it's not loading it automatically? |
| [02:44:58] | kormoc: | eleazar123, grep -i dvd |
| [02:45:08] | kormoc: | eleazar123, usually it's capitalized. |
| [02:45:13] | shiznix: | grep is case sensitive, either use '-i' to ignore case, or use `dmesg | grep hd[abcdef]` & read through manually |
| [02:45:29] | shiznix: | yeah, what he said :D |
| [02:45:39] | eleazar123: | ohhh lol ok |
| [02:45:54] | eleazar123: | hdc: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| [02:45:54] | eleazar123: | hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) |
| [02:45:56] | eleazar123: | yay |
| [02:46:09] | kormoc: | shiznix, it also could be scd# or sd[a-z] |
| [02:46:13] | eleazar123: | so just make the symlink to hdc :) |
| [02:46:17] | kormoc: | yup |
| [02:46:26] | eleazar123: | awesome, thanks guys :) |
| [02:46:31] | kormoc: | np |
| [02:46:41] | shiznix: | aah...ok, good point |
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| [02:48:19] | eleazar123: | aww it didn't work :( |
| [02:48:25] | kormoc: | eleazar123, ooh? |
| [02:48:53] | eleazar123: | the symlink said, 'file already exists' so i changed the settings in myth to /dev/hdc and it's doing the same thing, i click play dvd and it just sits there |
| [02:49:38] | kormoc: | eleazar123, you should run mythfrontend from a terminal window and look at the output |
| [02:49:57] | shiznix: | btw, great channel icon resource -> http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvcountry/ |
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| [02:50:20] | Beirdo: | my PVR has a load of 4.7 |
| [02:50:21] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [02:50:27] | eleazar123: | kormoc i do, one sec i'll exit myth real quick |
| [02:50:34] | kormoc: | Beirdo, ouchness |
| [02:50:45] | Beirdo: | 3 recordings going on |
| [02:50:45] | eleazar123: | ohh "it seems there is no xvideo support for your video card available.' |
| [02:50:49] | Beirdo: | plus playback |
| [02:51:14] | Beirdo: | the poor ethernet driver's getting lots of work |
| [02:51:16] | kormoc: | Beirdo, one of them a framegrabber? |
| [02:51:21] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [02:51:35] | kormoc: | so why the huge load? |
| [02:51:49] | Beirdo: | because ivtv-enc still is a process |
| [02:51:59] | kormoc: | sure, but it's so very low usually |
| [02:52:11] | Beirdo: | load average is indicitative of ready processes |
| [02:52:21] | eleazar123: | hm.. when i type xvinfo (which it says to do) it says screen 0, no adaptors present, am i screwed? :( |
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| [02:52:25] | Beirdo: | all the ivtv-enc processes are active. |
| [02:52:43] | hello_man: | hi guys.. need a little info on setting mysql |
| [02:52:47] | Beirdo: | still have 30% idle CPU |
| [02:52:48] | hello_man: | can somebody help me please? |
| [02:53:16] | kormoc: | Beirdo, fair nuff, but it's more of a case of mine usually doesn't stay active the entire time. |
| [02:53:17] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [02:53:24] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [02:53:33] | Beirdo: | well, I'm recording three shows right now |
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| [02:53:49] | hello_man: | in mysql, I have setup root password, now when I run mythtv-setup from mythtv user, I get cann't access database error. |
| [02:53:51] | kormoc: | Beirdo, even when it's recording, it's usually only adding .05 or so load. |
| [02:54:01] | hello_man: | I want to know how can I add mythtv user to mysql for access |
| [02:54:01] | Beirdo: | and it's causing the playback to glitch |
| [02:54:02] | hello_man: | ?? |
| [02:54:05] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [02:54:05] | kormoc: | hello_man, did you follow the directions? |
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| [02:54:23] | kormoc: | hello_man, the ones where they tell you how to do that and how to inport the starting database? |
| [02:54:33] | hello_man: | yes. I followed to best of my knowledge but looks like I made some mistake. |
| [02:54:40] | Kelerion: | hello_man.. make sure you have qt-mysql installed |
| [02:54:58] | hello_man: | I tried importing database but wouldn;t that be after mythtv-setup? |
| [02:55:05] | kormoc: | hello_man, no |
| [02:55:07] | Beirdo: | kormoc, they are each at 0.5% CPU usage |
| [02:55:15] | hello_man: | ok.. |
| [02:55:16] | Beirdo: | but stay on the ready queue a lot :) |
| [02:55:23] | kormoc: | Beirdo, fair nuff :) |
| [02:55:24] | hello_man: | where do I find the mc.sql file? |
| [02:55:31] | kormoc: | hello_man, depends on your distro |
| [02:55:37] | hello_man: | its debian |
| [02:55:42] | Beirdo: | 37% CPU for X, 26% for frontend, 3% for backend |
| [02:56:02] | Beirdo: | 0.7% for rpciod |
| [02:56:03] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:56:30] | sphing: | Beirdo: does myth have a known bug to eat resources after a while? |
| [02:56:30] | hello_man: | kormoc, its debian, any idea where will I find it? |
| [02:56:46] | Beirdo: | dunno, sphing |
| [02:56:48] | kormoc: | hello_man, nope |
| [02:56:57] | sphing: | came back from spring break.. and my server was crawling |
| [02:57:20] | sphing: | like nfs was slow |
| [02:58:02] | Beirdo: | sphing, that's what I'm kinda seeing here too, not sure why |
| [02:58:02] | hello_man: | ok I got the file. |
| [02:58:09] | Beirdo: | but I think it's my PVR |
| [02:58:12] | hello_man: | should I run that from root account or mythttv account? |
| [02:58:23] | hello_man: | also, how will mythtv account get access to this database |
| [02:58:24] | hello_man: | ? |
| [02:58:33] | sphing: | Beirdo: i had no front ends on, just my one backend |
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| [03:00:05] | hello_man: | ok I just setup the database |
| [03:00:56] | Beirdo: | GAH, STOP skipping, stupid frontend |
| [03:01:20] | dtm: | Beirdo: is it the nvidia driver bug i heard of? |
| [03:01:43] | Beirdo: | I doubt it |
| [03:01:47] | Beirdo: | I don't use nvidia |
| [03:01:55] | dtm: | oh. |
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| [03:07:09] | hello_man: | guys.. I silly question.. I dont have sound on my KDE |
| [03:07:13] | hello_man: | using debian |
| [03:07:16] | hello_man: | what can I check? |
| [03:09:08] | hello_man: | when I put an audio cd, it can play using KsCD but now audio :( |
| [03:10:04] | hello_man: | I am so dump when it comes to linux |
| [03:10:11] | hello_man: | I believe I am missing something |
| [03:10:35] | dtm: | hello_man: you never did? |
| [03:12:02] | hello_man: | I never did what? |
| [03:12:18] | dtm: | waht you said. |
| [03:12:27] | dtm: | you never had sound? |
| [03:12:39] | hello_man: | I believe so.. I just reinstalled debian from scratch |
| [03:12:52] | hello_man: | this time I didn't select any desktop componenet fom net isntall cd |
| [03:12:59] | hello_man: | last time I did and had sound |
| [03:13:14] | hello_man: | this time I installed KDE using apt-get, previously had gnome |
| [03:13:22] | hello_man: | not sure waht's needed for sound |
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| [03:16:48] | dtm: | why didn't you? |
| [03:17:03] | dtm: | sounds like you're either up for some googling, a trip to #debian or #linux, or a reinstallation. |
| [03:17:51] | eleazar123: | do you guys have any idea if the geforce 5500 has Xvideo support? myth won't load my dvd's b/c it says my card doesn't support it, but i could've swarn newer geforce's work well with mythtv? (able to watch dvd's at least) |
| [03:18:09] | hello_man: | hmm.. OK.. I can try this |
| [03:18:41] | hello_man: | as of now, I ran mythtv-setup and in my capture card configuration, I selected DVB DTV capture card (v3.X0 |
| [03:18:51] | hello_man: | is that correct for DVB-S card? |
| [03:19:18] | hello_man: | I selected DVb card number as 0 but it says Frontend ID: couldn't open #0!... |
| [03:19:43] | hello_man: | this is the first time I am using mythtv so please bear with my stupid questions |
| [03:20:23] | Agrajag-: | does the frontend device exist? (should be in /dev/dvb/adaptorN/frontendN |
| [03:21:26] | hello_man: | no. |
| [03:21:33] | hello_man: | actually there is no /dev/dvb |
| [03:22:39] | hello_man: | how do I get that? |
| [03:22:46] | hello_man: | my card is recognized by the system |
| [03:23:11] | Agrajag-: | what device is it then? |
| [03:23:26] | hello_man: | its twinhan 102G DVB-s card |
| [03:23:53] | Agrajag-: | no i mean you said it's recognised, what module have you loaded, and where did it create the /dev entries? |
| [03:24:05] | Agrajag-: | (are you sure you've loaded the module and it's loaded properly?) |
| [03:24:18] | kormoc: | hello_man, dmesg | grep -i dvb might help you solve what's going on |
| [03:24:26] | hello_man: | ohh.. may be its not loaded.. the bttv driver is loaded |
| [03:24:41] | Agrajag-: | bttv isn't dvb |
| [03:24:53] | hello_man: | kormoc -> bttv0: add sudevice "dvb0" |
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| [03:25:12] | Agrajag-: | yeah some dvb modules use dvb, but you need more than just bttv loaded |
| [03:25:21] | Agrajag-: | err some dvb modules use bttv rather |
| [03:25:33] | hello_man: | ok. can you tell me please what I need to load extra. |
| [03:26:08] | Agrajag-: | i dont have that same card so you need to figure that out |
| [03:26:28] | kormoc: | hello_man, google is your friend in cases like this |
| [03:26:54] | eleazar123: | what resolution do you guys run your frontend at? my max seems to be 640x480, but i think thats causing myth to mess up and my video card drivers :( |
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| [03:27:07] | kormoc: | eleazar123, what videocard do you have? |
| [03:27:09] | kormoc: | hihi Cardoe! |
| [03:27:17] | eleazar123: | kormoc GeForce 5500 |
| [03:27:20] | eleazar123: | *AGP |
| [03:27:29] | kormoc: | eleazar123, with the nvidia drivers? |
| [03:27:30] | Cardoe: | hey kormoc |
| [03:27:32] | Cardoe: | how's it going? |
| [03:27:41] | kormoc: | goin well, how have you been? |
| [03:27:47] | eleazar123: | kormoc, yep nvidia drivers |
| [03:28:28] | kormoc: | eleazar123, you should edit your xorg.conf/xf86config-4 file to setup resolutions. |
| [03:28:39] | Cardoe: | kormoc: been crazy busy |
| [03:28:44] | Cardoe: | falling behind on school stuff |
| [03:28:44] | kormoc: | eleazar123, I run my frontend at 800x600 on the tv, and 1024x768 on my lcd. |
| [03:28:49] | Cardoe: | need to catch up |
| [03:29:00] | kormoc: | icky, but understandable |
| [03:29:13] | Cardoe: | and I need a new video card for my myth setup |
| [03:29:24] | eleazar123: | kormoc is that x86config-4 a section in xorg.conf? |
| [03:29:27] | Cardoe: | thinking about blogging if someone's got an old video card they'd sell me real cheap :-D |
| [03:29:45] | kormoc: | eleazar123, no, the xf86config-4 is the xfree86 config file |
| [03:29:53] | kormoc: | Cardoe, hehe, for what box? |
| [03:30:04] | eleazar123: | kormoc ohh okie, sorry, i'm a lil new to all of this :) |
| [03:30:07] | Cardoe: | ppc |
| [03:30:22] | Cardoe: | so ATI Radeon 9200–9500 ish would be awesome |
| [03:30:33] | kormoc: | Cardoe, you so should have bugged me awhile ago... I had a 9500 ppc card. |
| [03:31:10] | Cardoe: | :( |
| [03:31:14] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:31:19] | Cardoe: | I have an old x86 box I'd use too |
| [03:31:22] | Beirdo: | I am still using my 9600 pro |
| [03:31:28] | Beirdo: | and my 9200SE |
| [03:31:33] | Cardoe: | my GeForce 3 died with video out |
| [03:31:40] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [03:31:43] | Beirdo: | that sucks |
| [03:32:56] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [03:33:02] | Cardoe: | makes testing MythTV ebuilds tough for me |
| [03:34:09] | eleazar123: | kormoc do you have an example of your xorg.conf by chance? i edited mine, but the only options in xfce4 are 640x480 and 320xsomething, :( |
| [03:34:38] | kormoc: | eleazar123, https://kormoc.homelinux.org/xorg.conf |
| [03:34:47] | eleazar123: | ah excellent :) thanks |
| [03:34:48] | kormoc: | Cardoe, heh, fair nuff |
| [03:39:57] | eleazar123: | kormoc i think my problem is with the kernel, updating it now, i'll let you know if it works :) |
| [03:41:03] | Cardoe: | kormoc: you got AIM/Jabber? |
| [03:41:18] | kormoc: | Cardoe, aim, and you can guess the username |
| [03:42:51] | ** eleazar123 guesses it too ** | |
| [03:42:51] | eleazar123: | ;) |
| [03:55:54] | eleazar123: | kormoc, i think i found my problem, but i have no idea how to fix it :( http://pastebin.ca/46307 |
| [03:56:24] | kormoc: | eleazar123, toss up your xorg.conf |
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| [03:56:50] | eleazar123: | okie, on sec |
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| [03:58:02] | eleazar123: | http://pastebin.ca/46308 |
| [03:58:41] | kormoc: | eleazar123, remove line 21, it's not needed with nvidia cards |
| [03:59:16] | eleazar123: | ok |
| [03:59:17] | eleazar123: | done |
| [03:59:28] | kormoc: | eleazar123, remove line 115, 116, it's a dup of line 113, 114 |
| [04:00:12] | kormoc: | add in to the Monitor Section |
| [04:00:26] | kormoc: | VertRefresh 60 |
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| [04:00:29] | kormoc: | HorizSync 30–50 |
| [04:00:40] | kormoc: | and then restart X and see how it goes. |
| [04:00:57] | eleazar123: | ok, thanks :) |
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| [04:02:39] | phishman: | hey guys; anyone here using a recent svn? |
| [04:04:02] | eleazar123: | kormoc, it worked! thanks again :) |
| [04:04:14] | kormoc: | np :P |
| [04:04:51] | phishman: | anyone? |
| [04:05:22] | kormoc: | phishman, I use a recent branch of 0.19 fixes |
| [04:05:22] | MrNeutron: | Is the HD-3000 still considered the best card for receiving QAM? Or have the newer cards (like the Air2PC HD5000) surpassed it? |
| [04:06:53] | phishman: | kormoc: sorry; I meant the bleading edge svn |
| [04:07:37] | phishman: | ive never got the 0.19 or less working; for some reason only the 0.19+ works for me |
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| [04:10:51] | kormoc: | eleazar123, not usually, but your overscan should be able to fix that |
| [04:11:09] | eleazar123: | ah, should i try increasing the number? b/c it shows up on every movie :( |
| [04:12:25] | phishman: | eleazar: if you are using X. There might be an overscan setting in you X driver also |
| [04:12:54] | eleazar123: | well i have it set in my xorg.conf |
| [04:13:21] | eleazar123: | hm.. lol, it's playing my dvd in spanish |
| [04:13:34] | phishman: | I know that my Nvidia card does overscan which solved my problem |
| [04:13:49] | phishman: | my (blue bars) problem |
| [04:13:51] | eleazar123: | Option "TVOverScan" "0.6" |
| [04:13:53] | eleazar123: | did you set it like that? |
| [04:14:02] | kormoc: | phishman, he's using a nvidia card as well |
| [04:14:11] | kormoc: | eleazar123, yeah, just keep playing with it |
| [04:14:14] | phishman: | yea but at some point I went too far it defaulted back.. |
| [04:14:30] | eleazar123: | ok |
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| [04:14:48] | phishman: | Section "Device" |
| [04:14:48] | phishman: | Identifier "Nvidia" |
| [04:14:48] | phishman: | Driver "nvidia" |
| [04:14:48] | phishman: | VendorName "nVidia" |
| [04:14:48] | phishman: | Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M" |
| [04:14:49] | phishman: | Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" |
| [04:14:51] | phishman: | Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" |
| [04:14:51] | AlefBet: | Can I ask a troubleshooting Myth question here? |
| [04:14:52] | phishman: | Option "NoLogo" "True" |
| [04:14:55] | phishman: | Option "RenderAccel" "True" |
| [04:14:57] | phishman: | Option "TVOverScan" "0.65" |
| [04:14:58] | phishman: | Option "SWCursor" "False" |
| [04:15:00] | phishman: | Option "HWCursor" "False" |
| [04:15:03] | phishman: | Option "CursorShadow" "False" |
| [04:15:05] | phishman: | BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420" |
| [04:15:07] | phishman: | EndSection |
| [04:15:08] | Beirdo: | phishman, use pastebin! |
| [04:15:08] | kormoc: | AlefBet, you can ask, for sure |
| [04:15:12] | AlefBet: | Thanks. |
| [04:15:15] | phishman: | whoops... sorry |
| [04:15:31] | AlefBet: | My MythTV box (Gentoo, 0.18-r1) seems to be working fine, except... |
| [04:15:42] | AlefBet: | When I try to schedule new programs, it ignores my changes. |
| [04:15:52] | eleazar123: | phishman, thanks i'll try that overscan value |
| [04:15:53] | AlefBet: | This is both in the MythTV interface and in the MythWeb interface. |
| [04:16:00] | kormoc: | AlefBet, might wanna update to 0.19 |
| [04:16:05] | phishman: | Is your mysql server running? |
| [04:16:08] | AlefBet: | Is there a MySQL permission setting that might have been hit? |
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| [04:16:20] | Likwid: | so when im installing lirc, irw does nothing and there is no lirc0 device :( |
| [04:16:23] | AlefBet: | I think so. It's recording already scheduled programs, I just can't schedule new ones. |
| [04:16:27] | AlefBet: | I'll check though. |
| [04:16:46] | kormoc: | AlefBet, if your db is corrupt, it might be in read only mode |
| [04:16:52] | AlefBet: | I have a mysqld_safe and mysql process running. |
| [04:17:10] | AlefBet: | Is there a troubleshooting guide for that? |
| [04:17:17] | kormoc: | AlefBet, not really |
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| [04:17:34] | AlefBet: | Can you give me help with that, then? Do you know how I can tell? |
| [04:17:50] | kormoc: | AlefBet, you'd need to check your mysql logs /var/log/mysql/ |
| [04:17:52] | AlefBet: | If I can add other databases as root, would that mean the DB isn't corrupt? |
| [04:17:59] | AlefBet: | I'll take a look at that real quick. |
| [04:18:17] | AlefBet: | Hmm. |
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| [04:19:19] | phishman: | AlefBet: i'd backup the db |
| [04:19:43] | AlefBet: | How do you do that? I'm a medium-newbie when it comes to MySQL. |
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| [04:20:06] | eleazar123: | do you guys have any idea how to specify which language a dvd should play? i can't get it to play english :s |
| [04:20:08] | phishman: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.5 |
| [04:20:25] | phishman: | eleazar: which prog are you using to play the DVD |
| [04:20:36] | eleazar123: | mplayer, default command |
| [04:20:39] | phishman: | AlefBet: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.5 that was for you |
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| [04:20:43] | adam613: | so i have been working on installing mythgame |
| [04:20:56] | adam613: | and when i scan for games, it finds all of my SNES roms |
| [04:21:03] | adam613: | and puts them into the gamemetadata table in mysql |
| [04:21:05] | AlefBet: | phishman: Thanks. |
| [04:21:15] | adam613: | but they dont show up in the list when i go to Play Games |
| [04:21:25] | adam613: | does anyone have any suggesions? |
| [04:21:36] | AlefBet: | Should I zap the database and then reimport it? |
| [04:21:50] | phishman: | eleazar: -alang en should work |
| [04:22:04] | eleazar123: | phishman ah thanks |
| [04:22:13] | eleazar123: | phishman i'll try that now |
| [04:22:14] | sphing: | Beirdo: you around? |
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| [04:22:43] | dooder: | anyone have an gentoo box and an avermedia m179 card. I'm not getting any sound and google isn't being helpful |
| [04:22:55] | kormoc: | dooder, I do |
| [04:23:08] | kormoc: | dooder, I had to stick to 2.6.14 and ivtv 0.4.0 for my 179 to work correctly |
| [04:23:10] | dooder: | kormoc : what do you module options look like ? |
| [04:23:33] | dooder: | dang. i'm on 2.6.15 and 0.4.2 |
| [04:23:56] | kormoc: | dooder, none, it works fine with my setup, but no work could get it happy on 2.4.15 |
| [04:24:14] | dooder: | did you have the same problem as me or something different ? |
| [04:24:26] | kormoc: | I ran into your problem, among others |
| [04:24:28] | eleazar123: | phishman yep, it worked, thanks :) |
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| [04:24:30] | kormoc: | stability otherwise. |
| [04:24:57] | phishman: | eleazar: np |
| [04:24:57] | dooder: | you ivtv 0.4.2 would also work ? |
| [04:25:08] | adam613: | does anyone know how to get the info in the gamemetadata table to show up in the Play Games area of the frontend? |
| [04:25:11] | kormoc: | dooder, I don't beleive so... it's been awhile |
| [04:25:13] | AlefBet: | Are there known issues with 0.18 like mine that 0.19 addresses? |
| [04:25:15] | phishman: | eleazar: how big is the blue bar on top? |
| [04:25:22] | kormoc: | AlefBet, no |
| [04:25:29] | AlefBet: | I hesitate to go to 0.19 because Gentoo still has it marked as testing. |
| [04:25:40] | kormoc: | AlefBet, meh, it's good. |
| [04:25:43] | AlefBet: | But if it's going to be a better experience, I can unmask it manually. |
| [04:25:57] | adam613: | don't unmask it, just put it in your package.keywords file |
| [04:25:58] | AlefBet: | I'm just not sure what might be a problem. |
| [04:26:00] | kormoc: | AlefBet, you have the ebuild writer in the channel most of the itme :) |
| [04:26:11] | kormoc: | adam613, that only works if it's a keyword mask. |
| [04:26:21] | AlefBet: | For example, I have issues with ivtv 0.4.2 that I don't with 0.4.0 which isn't masked. |
| [04:26:26] | AlefBet: | That's cool. |
| [04:26:27] | adam613: | it is on x86 and amd64 |
| [04:26:43] | adam613: | its ~x86 and ~amd64 |
| [04:26:48] | AlefBet: | I meant package.keywords. I misspoke. |
| [04:26:51] | adam613: | oh |
| [04:26:54] | kormoc: | yeah, but just saying, it won't work for every mask type |
| [04:26:57] | sphing: | is anyone else having random recordings show up |
| [04:27:07] | kormoc: | sphing, live tv? |
| [04:27:10] | phishman: | ALL: Anyone here seen this problem; whenever I start mythfrontend it just freezes with only the background showing. I have been trying to fix this for awhile |
| [04:27:18] | sphing: | kormoc: no, scheduled shows |
| [04:27:20] | sphing: | just show up |
| [04:27:25] | adam613: | i have it working using ~amd64, except for the database problem i've been complaining about |
| [04:27:30] | kormoc: | sphing, there's an issue with that? |
| [04:27:40] | sphing: | hmm, I didnt see it in the ticket list |
| [04:28:06] | kormoc: | sphing, so it's recording the tv you tell it to 'randomly'. not sure I see the issue... |
| [04:28:12] | dooder: | kormoc : I think I'll try with the older kernel first. I'll let you know how it goes if your interested |
| [04:28:21] | sphing: | kormoc: I record some shows on MTV |
| [04:28:21] | kormoc: | dooder, for sure |
| [04:28:26] | phishman: | All: It doesn't happen in the current svn; just everything from 0.19 fixes and before |
| [04:28:41] | sphing: | now, after upgrading to .19 from .18.1 totally random shows show up in my recording list |
| [04:28:50] | dooder: | sucks If I can't get this going soon. the gf wants to record desperate housewives |
| [04:29:09] | adam613: | dh wasnt that good tonight :) |
| [04:29:22] | phishman: | wasnt it a rerun? |
| [04:29:54] | kormoc: | dooder, well, you could marry her and try your best to let her be unfullfilled and desperate! |
| [04:30:23] | adam613: | yeah, it was from a few weeks ago |
| [04:30:55] | sphing: | kormoc: and now some of my shows recording information disappeared |
| [04:31:27] | kormoc: | that's just odd |
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| [04:31:48] | adam613: | so does anyone know about this database nonsense, or should i start digging through source code? |
| [04:32:34] | phishman: | no idea |
| [04:32:40] | AlefBet: | Hey, thanks a million. |
| [04:32:51] | AlefBet: | Dropping and restoring the database seems to have fixed it. |
| [04:32:56] | AlefBet: | I have another question, though. |
| [04:33:17] | AlefBet: | But it's on my parent's Myth box in Salt Lake City, so I can't do direct troubleshooting. |
| [04:33:26] | AlefBet: | Maybe somebody will have seen it, though, and have suggestions. |
| [04:33:45] | AlefBet: | We have a PVR 500 MCE Hauppauge dual tuner card. |
| [04:33:52] | AlefBet: | It's been working fine until this morning. |
| [04:33:56] | Likwid: | ok now im getting a TV Error: StartRecorder() — timed out when i try to watch live tv, and an error in mplayer saying it cannot find the lirc device even though lirc is not started :( |
| [04:34:17] | AlefBet: | Now it seems to record 15 seconds and then stop for 15 seconds and then record for 15 more seconds and so on. |
| [04:34:30] | AlefBet: | So recordings are half the length with huge chunks cut out of them. |
| [04:34:32] | AlefBet: | Anyone seen that? |
| [04:34:50] | AlefBet: | The card has been working great for the 3 months we've had it until now. |
| [04:35:02] | phishman: | AlefBet: running out of space? |
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| [04:36:42] | AlefBet: | Hmm. I don't know. I'll check. |
| [04:37:00] | adam613: | are any of the helping people familiar with the source code? is there a logging function, or should i just print to STDOUT? |
| [04:37:35] | phishman: | --logfile |
| [04:37:56] | adam613: | no, i mean in the code |
| [04:38:13] | adam613: | it looks like they just print to cerr |
| [04:38:36] | phishman: | adam613: no idea; sorry |
| [04:39:09] | adam613: | hm |
| [04:39:22] | adam613: | it kind of concerns me that i seem to be the only one having this problem |
| [04:39:32] | adam613: | (ie im probably doing something dumb) |
| [04:39:33] | GreyFoxx: | What do you mean? Just trying to directr the output to a file rather than the console ? |
| [04:39:56] | adam613: | no, im trying to put trace statements into gamehandler.cpp to see why my game list isnt getting populated |
| [04:40:06] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhh ok |
| [04:40:12] | adam613: | cuz nobody seems to know |
| [04:40:49] | GreyFoxx: | So you have pout the right path into your setup, along with the file extensions for that particular emulator ? |
| [04:40:54] | GreyFoxx: | then told it to scan for games ? |
| [04:40:55] | hello_man: | hey guys.. I compiled and installed DVB drivers but still /dev/dvb0 etc is not created |
| [04:40:57] | hello_man: | what can I do? |
| [04:41:03] | adam613: | yeah. the gamemetadata table gets populated |
| [04:41:16] | adam613: | and the info looks fairly normal |
| [04:41:26] | adam613: | but when i select Play Games in thefront end, the list is empty |
| [04:41:44] | GreyFoxx: | Weird. Noone has ever reported that one to me before |
| [04:41:55] | adam613: | yeah, i couldnt find it on google |
| [04:42:10] | adam613: | and im having C++ withdrawl anyway :) |
| [04:42:58] | GreyFoxx: | If you find out why I'd like to know. If it requires a patch just put it into trac and I'll take a look |
| [04:43:19] | GreyFoxx: | I've got a few updates I needed to make to it anyway |
| [04:43:32] | adam613: | can you tell me where trac is? (i never used mythtv before this morning) |
| [04:43:48] | GreyFoxx: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac |
| [04:43:51] | adam613: | k |
| [04:43:57] | adam613: | i'll see what i can figure out |
| [04:44:02] | adam613: | i probably did something dumb |
| [04:44:28] | GreyFoxx: | It's just weird that if you have data in there thatit wouldn't display |
| [04:44:32] | AlefBet: | phishman: Thanks. Deleting space seems to have taken care of that problem. |
| [04:44:35] | adam613: | thats what i thought |
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| [04:45:15] | adam613: | the display happens in gamehandler.cpp, no? |
| [04:45:20] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [04:45:24] | adam613: | oh |
| [04:45:25] | GreyFoxx: | gametree |
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| [04:45:52] | adam613: | ah, the queries are lowercase there |
| [04:45:57] | adam613: | so that file didnt come up in my grep |
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| [04:46:21] | GreyFoxx: | grep -i is your friend when search source :) |
| [04:46:44] | adam613: | yeah, i've been working for a company where there are strict standards about that so i got lazy :) |
| [04:47:45] | GreyFoxx: | Once I get my new laptop I'll setup my dev vmware session and do the mythgame updates I've been planning to do . My current one is just not worthy :) |
| [04:48:01] | adam613: | i gather mythgame isn't as heavily used as the other plugins? |
| [04:48:12] | GreyFoxx: | probably not |
| [04:48:41] | adam613: | my roommates found it to be quite interesting |
| [04:48:45] | GreyFoxx: | It's like Mythvideo -> Mythmusic/Mythweather -> Mythgallery -> Mythdvd -> mythgame |
| [04:48:53] | dtm: | i disabled "auto expire first", so why is mythtv still deleting my content?! |
| [04:48:58] | dtm: | what else is there to it? |
| [04:50:32] | adam613: | GameTree::fillNode() |
| [04:50:36] | Likwid: | lirc: there's no hardware i can use and no peers are specified :( |
| [04:50:54] | Likwid: | im ready to cry again |
| [04:51:10] | GreyFoxx: | dtm: What do you mean you disabled it ? |
| [04:54:19] | dooder: | kormoc : it looks like ivtv-0.4.2 won't even compile against the 2.6.15 kernel |
| [04:54:21] | shiznix: | in the LiveTV program guide, is there any way to stop the text from being truncated & have it wrap the same as it does when scheduling a program through the program guide ? |
| [04:54:30] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: it's a checkbox. i unchecked it. |
| [04:55:07] | GreyFoxx: | dtm: Where do you see that box? I don't see any "Auto Expire First" in the general settings |
| [04:55:52] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: "auto expire default" |
| [04:55:57] | dtm: | on the first page of General |
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| [04:56:49] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, why would you think hat would stop the expiry of already existing content? |
| [04:57:12] | GreyFoxx: | The help text clearly states it doesn't have any effect on existing recordings |
| [04:57:26] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: i wouldn't. |
| [04:57:56] | dtm: | i would think it'd stop those which already exist now and which were created after i unchecked that |
| [04:58:01] | dtm: | is that not so? |
| [04:58:20] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [04:58:37] | GreyFoxx: | It will stop new reecordings from eligible for auto expiry |
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| [04:58:52] | GreyFoxx: | but will not have any effect on currently recorded material |
| [04:59:23] | GreyFoxx: | Unless I am completely misreading what you are trying to say |
| [05:00:06] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, he unchecked it earlier today, and recordings after that still auto expire, if I'm reading it correctly |
| [05:00:21] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | It likely has no effect on existing receording schedules. But I'd have to do tests to confirm that |
| [05:01:30] | GreyFoxx: | Only thing that ever gets auto exzpired here is livetv stuff, which is rare since I never use livetv |
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| [05:01:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | changing the default doesn't affect any existing recordings or any existing scheduled recordings. it only affects new scheduled recordings. new recordings using the old scheduled recordings entries will use whatever the scheduled recording entry has for it's autoexpire value. |
| [05:02:01] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [05:02:06] | GreyFoxx: | thought so |
| [05:02:44] | adam613: | dumb question: where does gentoo put the plugins? |
| [05:03:04] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: oh so it only affects the schedule!!! well that sucks. |
| [05:03:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | it affects the default value used when you create new schedules. |
| [05:03:27] | kormoc: | adam613, /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/ |
| [05:03:30] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: well, then. |
| [05:03:31] | adam613: | thx |
| [05:03:40] | kormoc: | dtm, you can query to fix it tho |
| [05:03:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | the description on that is missleading it appears. |
| [05:04:02] | dtm: | kormoc: query sql? i'd hafta search to find which one |
| [05:04:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | I don't think the description was updated when we made auto-expire configurable per-scheduled-recording. |
| [05:04:43] | GreyFoxx: | dtm: I take it you're really low on diskspace ? |
| [05:04:57] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: not at all. at least 2GB |
| [05:05:13] | GreyFoxx: | that is low :) |
| [05:05:23] | kormoc: | dtm, UPDATE record SET autoexpire = 0; should do it |
| [05:05:37] | dtm: | kormoc: :-o |
| [05:07:21] | bagleabuse: | Can someone help me with a gentoo installation isue |
| [05:07:54] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, you can ask and see |
| [05:08:03] | bagleabuse: | okay — the install thinks there is no room on the disk |
| [05:08:06] | bagleabuse: | how do I fix that? |
| [05:08:15] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, might need to explain more |
| [05:08:31] | bagleabuse: | when I emerge --sync it says recv_generator: mkdir "/usr/portage/net-analyzer/bigeye" failed: No such file or directory |
| [05:08:35] | bagleabuse: | oops |
| [05:08:36] | bagleabuse: | wrong line |
| [05:08:44] | bagleabuse: | mkstemp "/usr/portage/metadata/cache/net-misc/.upnp-1.0.4.o3R7xZ" failed: No space left on device |
| [05:08:46] | bagleabuse: | that line |
| [05:08:55] | adam613: | do df -h /usr |
| [05:09:00] | adam613: | see how much space is left |
| [05:09:12] | bagleabuse: | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| [05:09:12] | bagleabuse: | - 966M 769M 148M 84% / |
| [05:09:29] | kormoc: | that's likely reserved for the root user |
| [05:09:48] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, ext3/2 reserves a large chunk of diskspace for the root user |
| [05:10:00] | bagleabuse: | okay... how do I fix that? |
| [05:10:33] | bagleabuse: | can I remove any data from the install?? |
| [05:10:50] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, sure. |
| [05:10:55] | bagleabuse: | what should I remove? |
| [05:11:05] | bagleabuse: | I don't want to kill it — needless to say |
| [05:11:08] | ** kormoc trys to recall the defaults ** | |
| [05:11:24] | kormoc: | /tmp/portage and /usr/portage/distfiles iirc |
| [05:12:07] | bagleabuse: | so remove the folder "/tmp/portage" and "/usr/portage/distfile" and iirc? |
| [05:12:22] | kormoc: | iirc is If I Recall Correctly |
| [05:12:28] | kormoc: | and yeah, remove those folders |
| [05:12:28] | bagleabuse: | ahh |
| [05:12:38] | bagleabuse: | so remove the files inside of /usr/portage/distfile? |
| [05:12:45] | kormoc: | yup |
| [05:12:45] | bagleabuse: | rm /usr/portage/* -rd |
| [05:13:04] | kormoc: | sure |
| [05:13:27] | bagleabuse: | okay now when I run emerge --sync it will work |
| [05:14:08] | kormoc: | try it and see |
| [05:14:39] | bagleabuse: | this is exciting no errors yet.... |
| [05:14:42] | kormoc: | (tho, I should mention, rm -rd isn't considered that safe. it's more common to do rm -rf /dir |
| [05:15:01] | bagleabuse: | but isn't emerge just going to refill that directory? |
| [05:15:27] | kormoc: | disfiles is the directory where it holds all the downloaded source for your installs |
| [05:15:36] | kormoc: | you don't need it as it will download it again |
| [05:15:40] | kormoc: | on demand |
| [05:15:46] | bagleabuse: | so no? |
| [05:15:54] | kormoc: | right :P |
| [05:16:08] | bagleabuse: | thankyou — what would we do without people who knew more than me... |
| [05:16:14] | bagleabuse: | knew == know; |
| [05:18:11] | kormoc: | heh, your welcome |
| [05:22:48] | bagleabuse: | utt ohh — no cie... this didn't work I don't think... |
| [05:23:05] | bagleabuse: | cie == dice; |
| [05:24:27] | kormoc: | you're gonna keep running into this I think. that partition is really small |
| [05:25:11] | bagleabuse: | can I make it larger? |
| [05:25:27] | adam613: | yeah, 1gb is really small for usr, much less for / |
| [05:25:59] | bagleabuse: | but the tutorial told me to do 1gb i think |
| [05:26:12] | adam613: | you mean the gentoo install guide? |
| [05:26:18] | bagleabuse: | ohh crap.... i think i may have missed the 0 in the 10 |
| [05:26:21] | bagleabuse: | shit... |
| [05:26:26] | bagleabuse: | its lvm — can I lvextend it? |
| [05:26:44] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, sure can, but not while it's mounted. Do all that off of a live cd. |
| [05:26:52] | bagleabuse: | i'm doing this from the livecd |
| [05:27:08] | kormoc: | ahh, kk |
| [05:27:31] | bagleabuse: | lvextend -L+5G /dev/vg/usr |
| [05:27:33] | bagleabuse: | will that do it? |
| [05:27:35] | kormoc: | you can fit / in a 2 gig partition, but really, I wouldn't recommend under 5. I use 10 for myself |
| [05:27:56] | adam613: | depends on how you do it |
| [05:28:04] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, looks good to me, but it's been awhile |
| [05:28:07] | bagleabuse: | crap it doesn't know that command |
| [05:28:23] | bagleabuse: | I chrooted into this, can I get to the folder that contains lvextend? |
| [05:28:23] | adam613: | i use 1–2 gb for /, but i have a seperate /usr that is usually 10 gb |
| [05:28:46] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, I wouldn't recommend it |
| [05:29:00] | bagleabuse: | how do I run lvextend then? |
| [05:29:12] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, gonna need to find a livecd that has it on it. |
| [05:29:29] | bagleabuse: | I have a 700mb livecd.. |
| [05:29:35] | kormoc: | how new? |
| [05:29:47] | bagleabuse: | 2 hours and change |
| [05:30:00] | bagleabuse: | new engough ;) |
| [05:30:03] | kormoc: | hrm. so 2006.0. I was sure 2006 had lvm2 stuff on it. |
| [05:30:22] | bagleabuse: | kormoc i chrooted onto teh syststem |
| [05:30:31] | bagleabuse: | i don't have lvm2 emerged yet |
| [05:30:40] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, you need to do this stuff from outside of the chroot |
| [05:30:40] | adam613: | you dont need to chroot to use lvm, i dont think |
| [05:30:51] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, you need to unmount the mounted partition as well |
| [05:30:59] | bagleabuse: | okay... so whats the 1st step |
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| [05:31:22] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, exit out of the chroot, and then unmount the mounted partitions |
| [05:31:34] | bagleabuse: | if I "exit" will it close the ssh session? |
| [05:31:49] | kormoc: | shouldn't |
| [05:31:56] | bagleabuse: | okay... much luck! |
| [05:32:09] | adam613: | GreyFoxx, still here? |
| [05:32:45] | bagleabuse: | so next command would be "rm /mnt/gentoo/usr -rf" then "unmount /dev/vg/usr" |
| [05:33:07] | kormoc: | don't rm the directory |
| [05:33:14] | kormoc: | just unmount /mnt/gentoo/usr |
| [05:33:17] | bagleabuse: | okay |
| [05:33:20] | bagleabuse: | then lvextend? |
| [05:33:23] | kormoc: | yes |
| [05:33:26] | bagleabuse: | so "lvextend -L+5G /dev/vg/usr" |
| [05:33:33] | bagleabuse: | i'm going to extend it by 9 |
| [05:33:43] | bagleabuse: | so "lvextend -L+9G /dev/vg/usr" |
| [05:33:49] | kormoc: | give it a shot and see! |
| [05:34:13] | bagleabuse: | lvextend -L+9G /dev/vg/usr |
| [05:34:14] | bagleabuse: | Extending logical volume usr to 19.00 GB |
| [05:34:14] | bagleabuse: | Logical volume usr successfully resized |
| [05:34:17] | bagleabuse: | what the hell?! |
| [05:34:30] | kormoc: | did you typo? |
| [05:34:39] | bagleabuse: | no it looks like it was 10 already |
| [05:34:43] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [05:34:49] | kormoc: | something was wacky |
| [05:35:00] | bagleabuse: | shit |
| [05:35:02] | kormoc: | you sure /mnt/gentoo/usr was mounted? |
| [05:35:09] | bagleabuse: | i ran it 2 times now its 28g! |
| [05:35:14] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [05:35:16] | adam613: | lol |
| [05:35:17] | bagleabuse: | i'm so stupid |
| [05:35:18] | kormoc: | you can shrink it down |
| [05:35:20] | bagleabuse: | but its funny |
| [05:35:44] | bagleabuse: | we need a quote bot — "ohh shit my usr dir is now 28G! |
| [05:36:01] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, that's what openbash.org is for! :P |
| [05:36:02] | adam613: | (i dont normally like to laugh at other ppl's misery, but i just quit my job in tech support so its hard :) ) |
| [05:36:23] | bagleabuse: | I do tech support this is a pebkac situation |
| [05:36:40] | bagleabuse: | pebkac = problem exists between keyboard and chair |
| [05:36:46] | adam613: | yes |
| [05:36:51] | adam613: | most of our problems were like that |
| [05:36:53] | adam613: | i hated it |
| [05:37:12] | bagleabuse: | okay... lvextend doesn't seem to have a shrink command... |
| [05:37:18] | adam613: | i dont even want to think about how many of my tickets had as a cause "user is an idiot" |
| [05:37:22] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, -9G perhaps? |
| [05:37:49] | bagleabuse: | lvreduce -L-9G /dev/vg/usr thats teh command |
| [05:38:25] | bagleabuse: | okay before i chroot in again can you check the freespace on a folder? |
| [05:38:40] | kormoc: | well, it's not mounted at the moment |
| [05:38:52] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, ls /mnt/gentoo/usr |
| [05:38:57] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, does it list a bunch of files? |
| [05:39:14] | bagleabuse: | dir named "lost+found" |
| [05:39:23] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [05:39:26] | kormoc: | that's sorta odd... |
| [05:39:47] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, why the lvm and the seperate /usr partition? |
| [05:39:57] | bagleabuse: | the tutorial told me to! |
| [05:40:00] | bagleabuse: | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml |
| [05:41:00] | kormoc: | heh, that's just optional, for a mythbox, it's just as fine to not use lvm at all for / and /usr and all them |
| [05:41:19] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, for example. my mythbox only has lvm on /mnt/tv |
| [05:41:38] | adam613: | i have a mythbox and ive never used lvm in my life :) |
| [05:41:40] | bagleabuse: | what if I want to put new drives in though? |
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| [05:42:05] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, I point myth to record to /mnt/tv, and I just add the drive to /mnt/tv and it's extended without touching the rest of the box |
| [05:42:36] | bagleabuse: | damnit... |
| [05:42:48] | bagleabuse: | can I format everything and startagain without going downstairs? |
| [05:42:55] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, sure |
| [05:43:02] | bagleabuse: | fdisk? |
| [05:43:13] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, outside of the chroot, unmount all the mount points |
| [05:43:23] | bagleabuse: | is there a massive unmount option |
| [05:43:27] | kormoc: | nope |
| [05:43:36] | bagleabuse: | fuck it i'm going to reboot... |
| [05:43:40] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, df will list them, unmount every mount under /mnt/gentoo |
| [05:43:44] | ShockValue: | weirdness.. upgraded my kernel, and now I cant get dolby digital to work... if i play a movie in "stereo" it sounds fine, but if I try it in 5.1, whichever player im using barfs.. |
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| [05:48:28] | bagleabuse: | alright... back and rebooted and back into ssh |
| [05:49:00] | bagleabuse: | if I start here http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1 will I install gentoo eventuals |
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| [05:50:08] | bagleabuse: | kormoc if I do this scheme http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handboo . . . 1&chap=4 will I not have these problems? |
| [05:50:16] | bagleabuse: | scheme is at 4.b |
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| [05:53:25] | BigPeteB: | Okay, I have two issues, and I'm wondering if someone could tell me what the best procedure is for reporting them. |
| [05:53:34] | bagleabuse: | say them in here |
| [05:53:46] | bagleabuse is now known as Achew22 | |
| [05:54:00] | Achew22: | whats your big problem? |
| [05:54:02] | BigPeteB: | 1) My cable provider likes to mess with the channels a lot, and mythfilldatabase never notices the changes. I have to remove the affected channels from the database, and then mythfill will realize they're missing. |
| [05:54:22] | Achew22: | you could dump the database before you run it? |
| [05:54:28] | BigPeteB: | It seems like there should be a better way to handle that, like a --confirm-channel-lineup option or something. |
| [05:54:46] | Achew22: | did you look in the man pages? |
| [05:54:59] | BigPeteB: | I didn't know there *were* man pages. |
| [05:55:29] | BigPeteB: | Err... in fact, there aren't man pages, at least not on my system, for mythfilldatabase. |
| [05:55:39] | BigPeteB: | Although there is a --help |
| [05:56:06] | BigPeteB: | Okay, second question. |
| [05:56:42] | BigPeteB: | 2) The last time my computer switched out of Daylight Saving Time, the program schedule got confused by it. It seems this should also be a bug. |
| [05:57:27] | BigPeteB: | I don't know anything about bug tracking systems, least of all whether ordinary users are supposed to submit bugs to it. |
| [05:58:22] | Achew22: | use the sf.net page to do that |
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| [05:59:57] | Achew22: | https://sourceforge.net/projects/mythtv |
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| [06:01:27] | BigPeteB: | I feel stupid for being foiled by this webpage, but... what do I do here? |
| [06:02:35] | ftp4: | i am trying to watch an avi file under "videos", i hear sound but see no video.. is there a special debian driver I need? |
| [06:04:03] | phar0e: | ftp4: what kind of avi file is it? xvid? |
| [06:04:32] | ftp4: | ? its a video clip from the conan obrien show :-) |
| [06:04:47] | Achew22: | kormoc I have a question, are you here? |
| [06:05:03] | phar0e: | a clip of what? of Chloe O'Brien from `24`? |
| [06:05:31] | Juski: | BigPeteB: before you go submitting a bug report what I recommend you do is post to the lusers mailing list |
| [06:06:05] | ftp4: | heh, no its got the guy that does the voice of homer simpson.. in reality, i am just trying to make it play .avi files :-) its a test file i have |
| [06:06:07] | Juski: | you'd actually post a bug report at svn.mythtv.org – after first checking that nobody else has filed one for the same problem |
| [06:06:15] | Juski: | dan castanatella |
| [06:06:31] | Juski: | which player are you using? |
| [06:06:45] | phar0e: | ftp4: I saw the whole 5 or 6 people that do the voices for Simpsons on James Lipton "Inside the actor's studio", it was awesome. |
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| [06:06:54] | ftp4: | mplayer |
| [06:07:05] | phar0e: | make sure you have the codecs for mplayer |
| [06:07:16] | ftp4: | well, mplayer will play dvd's :-) |
| [06:07:18] | Juski: | wouldn't you need windows codec support built into mplayer for that to work? |
| [06:07:34] | Juski: | divx, xdvid at the very least |
| [06:07:40] | Juski: | xvid, even |
| [06:07:59] | ftp4: | is there a way to tell debian, hey, get all the codecs for mplayer.. ? :-) |
| [06:08:03] | phar0e: | win32 codecs come in a pack from mplayer's website |
| [06:08:04] | kormoc: | Achew22, I am here |
| [06:08:22] | Achew22: | false alarm — the mirror I was on didn't have a file I was looking for — tried another and it worked |
| [06:08:23] | kormoc: | Achew22, and don't toss people towards the sf pages. noone uses them for bug tracking or anything. |
| [06:08:28] | BigPeteB: | Juski: Thanks, that's the kind of advice I needed to be told. |
| [06:08:29] | Juski: | I imagine it'd be mentioned in the mplayer FM |
| [06:08:35] | Achew22: | I use them for bug tracking.... |
| [06:08:40] | phar0e: | ftp4: let me search if debian has a package for that |
| [06:08:45] | Achew22: | http://rssatellite.sf.net I use them |
| [06:09:30] | DSC is now known as DSC22 | |
| [06:09:42] | kormoc: | Achew22, that's a rss reader, not related to myth's sf page |
| [06:10:06] | kormoc: | Achew22, second, if you notice, the sf page doesn't have any downloadable packages, nor any activity in a long long time... |
| [06:10:13] | Juski: | BigPeteB: I strongly suggest you ask on the mailing list first though ;-) opening bug tickets should be a last resort |
| [06:10:15] | Achew22: | no — its a dynamic modifier and I (project admin) use it to track bugs |
| [06:10:21] | Achew22: | where do you put the bugs up then? |
| [06:10:34] | kormoc: | Achew22, svn.mythtv.org, the offical myth bug system |
| [06:11:08] | Achew22: | okay... |
| [06:11:30] | BigPeteB: | Juski: Noted. |
| [06:11:40] | BigPeteB: | Thanks |
| [06:11:56] | phar0e: | ftp4: what does `mplayer -vc help` show? a long list of codecs? |
| [06:12:06] | Achew22: | kormoc what do the files in /portage say? |
| [06:12:29] | BigPeteB: | I still need to figure out my channel-updating problem, but I should upgrade to 0.19 first, and I'm waiting on Gentoo to stabilize the ebuild before I do so... |
| [06:12:32] | kormoc: | Achew22, you mean, where do they download the source? |
| [06:12:51] | Achew22: | nevermind the command ended — I was wondering what the innards of the fiels look like |
| [06:13:03] | kormoc: | BigPeteB, feel free to, it's quite nice, and won't 'stablize' for awhile, as the ebuild writer is swamped in school |
| [06:13:14] | kormoc: | Achew22, just edit it and see |
| [06:13:21] | BigPeteB: | Heh... now THAT's a feeling I can sympathize with. |
| [06:13:22] | Achew22: | thats what I did |
| [06:14:00] | Achew22: | BigPeteB if I emerge mythtv will it not work? |
| [06:14:17] | kormoc: | BigPeteB, but yeah, it's stable and nice imho :) |
| [06:14:47] | dooder: | kormoc : I have 2.6.14.6 and 0.4.0 of ivtv and still no sound |
| [06:14:49] | BigPeteB: | Achew22: What, like will it fail to compile? It should work fine. |
| [06:15:00] | dooder: | kormoc : what do your module confs look like ? |
| [06:15:02] | Achew22: | will it do .19? |
| [06:15:05] | kormoc: | dooder, odd... |
| [06:15:25] | ShockValue: | dooder, did you rename your kernels msp3400.ko and copy in IVTV's version? |
| [06:15:29] | kormoc: | Achew22, why don't you emerge -p mythtv and see? |
| [06:15:31] | BigPeteB: | Only if you have ACCEPT_KEYWORD="~x86", or have media-tv/mythtv in your /etc/portage/package.keywords file. |
| [06:15:37] | d64: | you say mythtv gets confused by the dst switch? have to watch out next sunday then |
| [06:15:38] | BigPeteB: | Otherwise it'll do 0.18.1 |
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| [06:15:58] | kormoc: | d64, DST switches next weekend? |
| [06:16:04] | d64: | kormoc: here it does |
| [06:16:11] | Achew22: | kormoc — first off I don't have a running system yet. 2nd, I haven't ever used gentoo before tonight. 3rd — he said he was waiting for them to fix it — implying a problem with it |
| [06:16:25] | d64: | kormoc: the switch is on different days depending on region.. |
| [06:16:44] | kormoc: | Achew22, you've asked me many gentoo questions in the past... |
| [06:16:46] | BigPeteB: | No, no problem per se. Gentoo policy is that everything is experimental until the ebuild hasn't been changed in a month or so. |
| [06:16:53] | d64: | i'm running the unstable 0.19 ebuild, it does work, somewhat |
| [06:16:57] | kormoc: | BigPeteB, actually, that's not quite true. |
| [06:16:59] | d64: | ie no build problems etc |
| [06:17:04] | kormoc: | d64, what issues have you had? |
| [06:17:15] | BigPeteB: | And I figure, the fewer times I have to re-emerge the same damn thing, the easier my life must be. |
| [06:17:24] | Achew22: | okay — fine — I have been using gentoo for ~36 hours. thats pretty close. Most of that was me asking to find out if it was worth my time to try gentoo |
| [06:17:37] | d64: | kormoc: well i've solved a lot of stuff, but the thing i hit in the end is that mythtranscode doesn't understand dvb subs.. but that's not a bug of the gentoo ebuild |
| [06:17:48] | dooder: | ShockValue : I renamed the old msp and reloaded ivtv. no change |
| [06:17:54] | BigPeteB: | d64: Yeah, 0.18 has that problem, too |
| [06:18:08] | kormoc: | d64, any ebuild/gentoo specific stuff, let me or cardoe know, cause we've been tring to really polish it up |
| [06:18:28] | d64: | kormoc: well, i think it says "you have to have a plugdev group" AFTER compiling |
| [06:18:37] | d64: | kormoc: so if you don't have it, you have to emerge again |
| [06:18:46] | kormoc: | yeah, that bug is listed on my list of things for the next revision. |
| [06:18:53] | kormoc: | it's really annoying. |
| [06:18:57] | BigPeteB: | Yeah, and the qt flag checking is bad, too. If both flags are off, it only tells you about one of them at a time. |
| [06:18:58] | d64: | i hit that on my laptop :) |
| [06:19:10] | BigPeteB: | I was more than a little annoyed when I recomipled qt only to have to recompile it again. |
| [06:19:23] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff :) |
| [06:19:25] | d64: | overall i think probably almost everything i've hit is not due to the ebuild |
| [06:20:22] | ShockValue: | dooder – rebooted afterwards and all that jazz? that worked for me, but perhaps your situation is diff |
| [06:21:37] | dooder: | ShockValue : I'm giving it a reboot now |
| [06:21:54] | d64: | i btw noticed that if i switch EIT scan off the backend stops crashing |
| [06:22:00] | d64: | before that it segfaulted about 10 times each daty |
| [06:22:02] | d64: | day |
| [06:22:10] | BigPeteB: | EIT scan? |
| [06:22:27] | d64: | yes the thing which scans programme info from the dvb data (i believe) |
| [06:22:37] | BigPeteB: | Ah |
| [06:23:15] | d64: | i had to put mythbackend in a script like "while true, sleep 5, mythbackend, loop" or else it would have never been up to record anything |
| [06:23:28] | BigPeteB: | Ugh |
| [06:24:13] | d64: | kormoc: do you use just the 0.19 release for the ebuild, or also the -fixes branch? |
| [06:25:38] | Juski: | d64: EIT stuff is still being fixed – there's a fair bit of work left to do on that apparently (it's being rewritten) |
| [06:26:00] | Juski: | there's apparently a 0.19-fixes ebuild too |
| [06:26:20] | BigPeteB: | Yeah, they're up to 0.19_p90xx-r1 something |
| [06:26:39] | dooder: | I think I might be remembering what the problem is |
| [06:26:51] | dooder: | and if i'm right i'm going to feel retarded |
| [06:26:56] | Juski: | mythtv-0.19_p9163-r1 |
| [06:27:07] | BigPeteB: | Yeah, that one :-) |
| [06:28:13] | kormoc: | d64, the new ones are the fixes branch |
| [06:30:59] | d64: | that's what i'm running yeah |
| [06:31:45] | d64: | good to know that i should try the eit again sometime in the future |
| [06:33:44] | Juski: | there's more cool stuff than EIT in the pipeline. some channels are beginning to have tvanytime data |
| [06:33:57] | BigPeteB: | My friend criticized me when I built my Myth box for using "a hippie OS", but when I go to his place, I notice the DVR doesn't auto-skip commercials... :-) |
| [06:34:43] | kormoc: | BigPeteB, just tell him that hippy chicks are just cuter then preppy chicks :) |
| [06:34:45] | Juski: | we all have different reasons for using mythtv. the main one for me is that I couldn't get XP to work with DVB-T reliably enough. I get pissed off when things don't record |
| [06:34:50] | BigPeteB: | kormoc: LOL |
| [06:35:38] | ShockValue: | skipping commercials, plays flac, 'free', hd3000, lots of reasons :) |
| [06:35:57] | dooder: | would not having alsa installed keep me from getting sound on my tv watching |
| [06:36:08] | Juski: | UK channels are bastards when it comes to them fooling commflagging |
| [06:36:10] | dooder: | like it would record fine but I would get errors when I tried to watch ? |
| [06:36:14] | kormoc: | BigPeteB, http://www.linuxsluts.com/ |
| [06:36:24] | BigPeteB: | dooder: Maybe... depends on your set-up. |
| [06:37:08] | BigPeteB: | Like, mine supports ALSA but can't use it, because the soundcard doesn't have a "Master" control (they call it something else), so Myth gets confused |
| [06:37:24] | BigPeteB: | I could make an asoundrc to get around it, but I haven't bothered to figure out how yet... |
| [06:38:19] | BigPeteB: | Go into the settings and see what it lists as the sound device |
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| [06:47:15] | Juski: | time for breakfast etc... |
| [06:47:18] | Juski: | laters, all |
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| [07:14:05] | thechris: | how do i renew with zap2it |
| [07:14:12] | thechris: | i can't find the link on their site |
| [07:14:53] | Zork_: | If a "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg" using a PVR250 results in an mpg that can be played with linux, but not with windows media player, what can be wrong? This used to work for me. |
| [07:15:26] | thechris: | can you play other mpegs in windows? |
| [07:15:34] | Zork_: | yes |
| [07:15:54] | Zork_: | I even have the old ones, which I recorded with my previous installation, and they work fine. |
| [07:16:12] | thechris: | i'd probably go with vlc anyways. i have no idea what would cause that. |
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| [07:16:40] | Zork_: | It's probably some ivtv setting, which wmp doesn't like, but I have no clue. |
| [07:17:04] | thechris: | this zap2it thing is annoying |
| [07:17:10] | Zork_: | I could go with vlc yes, but it's frustrating to me that it used to work. |
| [07:17:15] | thechris: | happens every 3 months and i never know what to do. |
| [07:17:17] | Zork_: | With an older version of the software. |
| [07:22:59] | BigPeteB: | thechris: http://labs.zap2it.com/ |
| [07:23:09] | BigPeteB: | Log in and it ought to prompt you to renew. |
| [07:26:52] | thechris: | thanks, i always forget it and its not easy to find otherwise |
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| [07:28:13] | BigPeteB: | There's another complaint I should make. I never know it's happening until suddenly I happen to check the scheduled recordings and notice there's only two days worth. |
| [07:29:31] | BigPeteB: | It would be much nicer if Myth could remind me. |
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| [07:31:25] | thechris: | or take the poll for you |
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| [07:39:57] | ShockValue: | reguarding HDTV, what options do i need in mythtv to make sure I pass ac3/5.1 type sound if the program sends it? |
| [07:40:43] | ShockValue: | currently, when i choose "enable ac3 or dts passthrough" i get a static-type sound from hi-def channels, but if i unselect them, i only get stereo sound |
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| [07:41:25] | Hoxzer: | ShockValue: Have you ever felt like number one? |
| [07:41:31] | Hoxzer: | like living your fantasy |
| [07:41:40] | Hoxzer: | Brighest start to all to se |
| [07:41:42] | Hoxzer: | e |
| [07:42:01] | ShockValue: | yes... do i just have to click on a simple URL to make all my dreams come true? |
| [07:42:13] | Zork_: | lol :-) |
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| [07:42:38] | Hoxzer: | Np: Hazel Fernandes – number one (vocal mix) |
| [07:42:45] | Hoxzer: | you should listen this |
| [07:43:06] | ShockValue: | hot single girls in my area (as determined by my IP address) ? |
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| [07:46:34] | ShockValue: | so, she's a background vocals singer with a new hit? how exciting |
| [07:48:54] | laga: | by "she", do you mean hoxzer? ;) |
| [07:48:55] | ftp3: | is dct-channel the only way to have mythtv change the channel on my comcast digital cable box? |
| [07:51:56] | ** laga has gotta run to school now, ttyl ** | |
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| [08:30:50] | mchou: | hmm, that's weird |
| [08:31:16] | ShockValue: | figured out the ac3 thing... needed to switch my output to ALSA:spdif instead of :defautl |
| [08:31:41] | mchou: | ShockValue: you got that crappy antenna to work? :) |
| [08:32:26] | ShockValue: | i get 3 channels @ ~ 70%.. the rest are no-go.. i'm gonna just take my buddies outdoor arial and return the rat-shack one |
| [08:33:13] | mchou: | ShockValue: how many channels are supposed to be in your area? |
| [08:33:50] | ShockValue: | like 12 |
| [08:33:52] | mchou: | ShockValue: all may not be lost. Ratshack has a nice indoor one..... |
| [08:35:27] | mchou: | this one might do the trick if your buddy's antenna doesnt work: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103058 |
| [08:35:58] | ShockValue: | antennaweb doesnt show all the channels im picking up.. for example, it says "channel 9", but i have 9_1 9_2 9_3 9_4 and 9_5 |
| [08:36:21] | mchou: | yeah, those are subchannels |
| [08:36:26] | ShockValue: | zip 98311 if you wanna see what i mean |
| [08:36:44] | ShockValue: | ah i see |
| [08:37:20] | mchou: | better to use labs.zap2it.com to determine what channels you get in your zip code |
| [08:37:44] | mchou: | create a new line-up, select "local listings" |
| [08:37:44] | ShockValue: | mmm hmmm ,, did that part already.. but i get like 20% reception on most of them |
| [08:38:26] | mchou: | you sure all the stations transmit from space needle? |
| [08:39:12] | ShockValue: | no, some are south of me from galloping gurty |
| [08:39:32] | mchou: | that's not good |
| [08:40:01] | mchou: | that means you may have to get an antenna rotator |
| [08:40:23] | ShockValue: | dont really care much about the south ones |
| [08:40:55] | ShockValue: | i mean, i'd take em if i could get em, but im not gonna screw with rotators |
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| [08:41:23] | mchou: | antenna web seems to indicate moste DT stations are from seattle, not tacoma |
| [08:41:28] | Likwid: | anyone know what could be causing this? TV Error: Start Recorder() — Timed out waiting for recorder to start |
| [08:41:48] | Likwid: | frontend and backend on the same system |
| [08:42:08] | mchou: | ShockValue: looks like 70–74 degree orientation for you |
| [08:42:17] | Juski: | usually means the recorder hasn't started & it times out :-P |
| [08:42:30] | Likwid: | lol thanks juski :) |
| [08:42:43] | Likwid: | that really helps me out alot :) haha |
| [08:43:02] | Juski: | various reasons for the recorder not starting.. DVB device not tuned in time, unable to connect to recording source (e.g. DBOX2), etc... |
| [08:43:12] | Likwid: | hmm |
| [08:43:46] | mchou: | heh, so you can now boot windows on a intel mac now, apparently |
| [08:43:49] | Juski: | or... dtv_recorder failed to parse the service info table on a multiplex... |
| [08:43:53] | ShockValue: | possible to eject the cdrom when using knoppix? i cant seem to get it to go |
| [08:44:07] | mchou: | ShockValue: no way jose |
| [08:44:09] | Likwid: | know of any good players besides mplayer that i could test out my tuner with? see if it something with that? |
| [08:44:15] | Juski: | ShockValue: you'd have to unmount it first |
| [08:44:20] | Juski: | Likwid: what tuner? |
| [08:44:26] | Likwid: | i finally got the pvr-350 remote working |
| [08:44:31] | Likwid: | pvr-350 :) |
| [08:44:33] | ShockValue: | well thats lame.. what the hell do they include K3B for then? |
| [08:44:59] | Juski: | knoppix or not_myth? |
| [08:45:01] | mchou: | ShockValue: when you have a dvd and a dvd+-rw :) |
| [08:45:18] | ShockValue: | just plain knoppix |
| [08:45:24] | mchou: | plus k3b can make images |
| [08:45:35] | mchou: | which you can later burn :) |
| [08:45:45] | ShockValue: | bah. |
| [08:45:46] | Juski: | Likwid: mplayer should be enough just for testing. I think the linux VLC player works with hardware mpeg2 encoding cards aswell |
| [08:46:09] | Juski: | ShockValue: so ask away in #knoppix or whatever, or in #noobs |
| [08:46:33] | mchou: | haha, is there actualls a #noobs channel? :) |
| [08:46:39] | Likwid: | Juski: alright, for some reason mplayer wont start up because it doesnt detect lirc correctly even thoughi put lircrc in the right directory :/ |
| [08:46:42] | mchou: | actually* |
| [08:46:47] | Likwid: | Juski: thanks |
| [08:47:25] | Juski: | mchou: who cares? ;-) |
| [08:48:08] | ShockValue: | I think Juski was just making an underhanded comment about my linux skills. He just kicked me out of the #weRl33t channel too. |
| [08:48:32] | mchou: | what I'd really like is a knoppix that has the proprietary nvidia drivers :) |
| [08:49:04] | mchou: | I tried the kororaa livedc |
| [08:49:09] | mchou: | livecd* |
| [08:49:26] | mchou: | that's way too much eye candy |
| [08:49:30] | Juski: | ShockValue: normally if linux won't let you eject a CD it's because it's mounted. unmount it & it should let you eject |
| [08:49:37] | mchou: | Juski: lol |
| [08:49:47] | ShockValue: | root@0[knoppix]# umount /cdrom |
| [08:49:47] | ShockValue: | umount: /cdrom: device is busy |
| [08:49:47] | mchou: | dont be ridiculous |
| [08:50:00] | mchou: | knoppix is live cd |
| [08:50:12] | mchou: | you unmount, you got no OS :) |
| [08:50:12] | Juski: | ah that'll be why it won't let you eject it then |
| [08:50:18] | ShockValue: | i was under the impression it loaded most of it's goods into ramdisk |
| [08:50:28] | mchou: | it does |
| [08:50:37] | Juski: | my bad- it's still not even 9 on a monday morning |
| [08:50:43] | mchou: | but that's mostly kernel related junk |
| [08:51:25] | mchou: | and maybe a few bash utils |
| [08:52:15] | mchou: | Juski: look who should go to #noob now |
| [08:52:47] | Juski: | anyway – knoppix isn't _just_ a livecd. you can install it too |
| [08:52:52] | mchou: | ShockValue: ^^ |
| [08:53:18] | mchou: | Juski: lol. You KNOW that's not what ShockValue meant |
| [08:53:36] | mchou: | Juski: nice attempt to change the subject, noob |
| [08:53:59] | Juski: | no I don't know that mchou |
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| [08:54:21] | mchou: | Juski: lol |
| [08:54:29] | ** ShockValue is checking out Kororra ** | |
| [08:54:48] | mchou: | ShockValue: I think it's over-rated |
| [08:55:14] | ShockValue: | i just want a damn live cd that can do "mkraid". Knopix cant (afaict) |
| [08:55:50] | mchou: | I mean offloading windowing ops to gl is a good idea, but some of that stuff is just ridiculous |
| [08:56:12] | mchou: | never mind the crappy key bindings |
| [08:56:56] | ShockValue: | ick.. 6 hours till the alarm clock goes off |
| [08:56:59] | ShockValue: | see ya'll later |
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| [09:00:50] | Juski: | mchou: well, myth's UI is going opengl – make of that what you will |
| [09:01:42] | simcop2387: | Juski: w00t faster loading times and redrawing :) |
| [09:01:47] | mchou: | ui w/ open gl makes sense because of alphablending |
| [09:01:55] | simcop2387: | mchou: and scaling! |
| [09:02:03] | mchou: | yeah, that too |
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| [09:07:15] | ftp3: | when i watch avi files with xine, about 10min in the movie says "restoring index". goes from 1% to 100% over about 10min then the movie stops, every time i play it it does the same thing |
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| [09:22:07] | shiznix: | ftp3: and this connects to mythtv how ? |
| [09:23:55] | shiznix: | anyway, sounds like a bad .avi, try passing it through mencoder with some basic options for speed & preservation of original |
| [09:25:03] | shiznix: | s/original/original's quality |
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| [09:44:42] | Merlin83b2: | Morning folks |
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| [10:03:31] | phar0e: | morning merlinnn |
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| [10:16:06] | Merlin83b2: | stuarta: The BE crash is solved as per -dev :-) |
| [10:16:21] | stuarta: | really. |
| [10:16:35] | Merlin83b2: | Yep – ffmpeg resync fixed it. |
| [10:16:56] | stuarta: | doubt that. I'd say it was all the extra locks for the codecs |
| [10:17:34] | stuarta: | cause the ffmpeg resync was before 9398 you were testing. |
| [10:18:12] | Merlin83b2: | Daniel posted on the ml to svn update again as he'd done another. |
| [10:18:29] | mchou: | huh?? BE crash? |
| [10:18:39] | Merlin83b2: | mchou: If you're not getting it, don't worry :-) |
| [10:18:56] | stuarta: | most likely 9401 |
| [10:19:05] | mchou: | Merlin83b2: heh, still on 18.1. contemplating upgrade |
| [10:19:17] | Merlin83b2: | mchou: I'd say got for it – lots of new cool stuff. |
| [10:19:23] | stuarta: | mchou: don't worry, this one is bleeding edge |
| [10:19:25] | Merlin83b2: | But back up your DB :-) |
| [10:19:33] | mchou: | if 19 crash I dont wanna anything to do with it :) |
| [10:19:37] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, I'm on code committed this morning :-) |
| [10:19:41] | Merlin83b2: | 19 didn't :-) |
| [10:20:04] | stuarta: | that's the only relevant changeset |
| [10:20:11] | fatmatt: | friend of mine running 19 had issues, think I might wait till I have lotsa time |
| [10:20:16] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, seems as though it might be. Oh well! |
| [10:20:33] | stuarta: | I'm still stuck on 9368 |
| [10:20:47] | mchou: | stuarta: why is that? |
| [10:20:51] | fatmatt: | bought a new dvb card today, going to see if I can install it tomorrow |
| [10:21:10] | stuarta: | When I have a heavy recording schedule, I stick with a known working version |
| [10:21:17] | mchou: | stuarta: ah, ok |
| [10:21:21] | stuarta: | When I have time to debug, I update. |
| [10:21:44] | stuarta: | bloody ch5, 2 episodes of voyager every weekday... |
| [10:21:51] | Merlin83b2: | I have a 9300 built and ready to install that's know to mostly work apart from (now) the missing recoding problem. |
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| [10:22:19] | stuarta: | My recompiles only take 5 minutes, so I might get around to it tonight |
| [10:22:43] | Merlin83b2: | Heh, mine are a bit slower ;-) |
| [10:22:54] | mchou: | stuarta: 5 minutes to compile myth? how do you manage that? |
| [10:23:10] | mchou: | you must have some uber proc :) |
| [10:23:14] | stuarta: | ccache, amd64 3200, 2G ram |
| [10:23:26] | stuarta: | ccache is the important bit |
| [10:23:32] | mchou: | lol, that's what I've got :) |
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| [10:23:46] | mchou: | takes more than 5 min for me :( |
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| [10:23:54] | stuarta: | the first run through takes about 30min |
| [10:24:07] | stuarta: | after that rebuilds are fast. |
| [10:24:14] | pilly: | well I finally got my system to automount dvd's with avi's for mythvideo... now if I could just get it to allow an eject from within myth... :) |
| [10:24:39] | pilly: | anyone else run into this problem? |
| [10:25:55] | pilly: | using/adding an eject button in the optical menu doesn't work... my guess is myth keeps the drive mounted for some reason... |
| [10:26:26] | stuarta: | use lsof to determine what is using the device |
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| [10:29:47] | mchou: | haha: check this out: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php? . . . ft=1&f=2 |
| [10:33:32] | pilly: | brb gonna reboot see if that fixes it... |
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| [10:34:03] | ** stuarta a reboot fixes everything.... ** | |
| [10:35:53] | stuarta: | time to live dangerously. 9410 here we come.. |
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| [10:39:23] | Merlin83b2: | Been stable for literally minutes for me, stuarta! |
| [10:39:34] | stuarta: | compiling it now. |
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| [10:40:07] | stuarta: | gbee said it was pretty broken yesterday, but maybe that's just him |
| [10:41:04] | Merlin83b2: | I haven't been able to test anything apart from confirming the BE crash I posted to -dev is gone yet. |
| [10:41:20] | stuarta: | remote controlled upgrades? |
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| [10:42:33] | Merlin83b2: | SSH home from work, yeah :-) |
| [10:42:41] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [11:06:27] | pilly: | cool I love myth... workink -ALMOST- perfect |
| [11:06:52] | pilly: | just got the automout shit figgured out.... |
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| [11:07:32] | pilly: | this thing will do everything but make popcorn |
| [11:07:36] | pilly: | :) |
| [11:08:18] | pilly: | kudos to all the developers!! |
| [11:09:54] | stuarta: | sure somebody will write a popcorn module soon... |
| [11:10:18] | pilly: | can't wait.... |
| [11:10:34] | stuarta: | feel free to write it :) |
| [11:11:12] | pilly: | any other interesting things I can get this thing to do?? maybe something I haven't thought of? |
| [11:11:59] | Merlin83b2: | YOu can use it to record and playback TV shows. |
| [11:12:18] | pilly: | heheh... REALLY?? |
| [11:12:21] | pilly: | :) |
| [11:13:30] | pilly: | I'd like to figgure a way to have it automatically transcode "permanent" recordings to xvid without commercials |
| [11:13:52] | Merlin83b2: | commflag, transcode. If you trust your commflagging it can be automatic. |
| [11:13:54] | dscoular: | Won't nuvexport do that ? |
| [11:13:56] | pilly: | I figgure nuvexport will be the best for this... |
| [11:14:40] | pilly: | just need to figgure out the trade offs between quality/cpu/drive space |
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| [11:15:17] | pilly: | I'd like to limit recordings to less than 500 mb per hr |
| [11:15:36] | pilly: | or just above but in that ballpark |
| [11:15:37] | dscoular: | You can set the bitrate, res, number of passes etc in nuvexport... but multipass and noise reduction take forever. |
| [11:16:07] | pilly: | I didn't see much improvment with noise reduction |
| [11:16:21] | dscoular: | Me neither. |
| [11:16:22] | pilly: | I'd prolly double pass it |
| [11:16:28] | pilly: | though |
| [11:16:49] | dscoular: | It does improve it but takes an unfathonable amount of time |
| [11:17:23] | dscoular: | s/unfathonable/unfathomable/ |
| [11:17:35] | dscoular: | must get new teeth |
| [11:18:04] | pilly: | the time ins't too bad.... if I can get the quality out of it... |
| [11:18:21] | pilly: | just need to get my "lost" fix... and keep it |
| [11:18:29] | dscoular: | Should suit your purpose perfectly then. |
| [11:20:24] | pilly: | should I de-interlace? |
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| [11:22:53] | Merlin83b2: | What hardware are you using? |
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| [11:23:02] | pilly: | must make this box wifeproof.... |
| [11:23:21] | pilly: | wife=tech-tard |
| [11:26:21] | pilly: | amd 1800 512 ram |
| [11:27:06] | pilly: | you? |
| [11:27:28] | pilly: | 280 gig lvm |
| [11:27:54] | phar0e: | XP 3700+, 1.5GB ram, 600GiB /mythtv raid0 |
| [11:28:37] | pilly: | nice... |
| [11:29:11] | phar0e: | gnome 2.14 is easier, better, and faster... I don't believe it |
| [11:29:12] | pilly: | I have an additional 580 available on smb (box 1) |
| [11:29:33] | pilly: | xfce here |
| [11:29:56] | phar0e: | yeah xfce is my favourite |
| [11:30:20] | phar0e: | so clean-cut and minimal |
| [11:30:30] | pilly: | nice and lite.... not many features but enough to get by |
| [11:31:01] | pilly: | anyone tried mythdora 2.1? |
| [11:31:27] | pilly: | I'd recomed it for anyone having a hard time on setup |
| [11:31:34] | dscoular: | deinterlace if its gonna be playing back on a progressive display. |
| [11:31:41] | pilly: | of myth that is... |
| [11:31:49] | dscoular: | I.e. a lcd rather than a crt or tv |
| [11:32:12] | pilly: | ok no de-int then.... |
| [11:32:29] | pilly: | tv and crt only here... :( |
| [11:35:03] | dscoular: | me too |
| [11:35:14] | dscoular: | other than my work lappy |
| [11:36:00] | pilly: | so I have nuvexport set-to xvid,no de-int,no noise red, no crop,multipass,using generated cutlist |
| [11:36:25] | pilly: | lap is only lcd here too... don't use for vids though |
| [11:36:27] | dscoular: | I leave the crop.. it's fast |
| [11:36:33] | pilly: | 2% |
| [11:36:34] | pilly: | ? |
| [11:37:39] | dscoular: | I think it's some standard border that broadcasters always send outwith the tube boundary... not sure though... try it without the crop and see |
| [11:38:01] | dscoular: | Then if you have a black border try it with |
| [11:38:37] | pilly: | I do sometimes see "static" dows the right side of the screen so maybe I'll crop.... |
| [11:39:26] | pilly: | wow so the total cost of my pvr is like 130 buck... |
| [11:40:08] | pilly: | all donated froma friend... except the pvr card and a stick of ram and extra parts... :) |
| [11:42:00] | pilly: | just need a remote and its wife-friendly.... she couldn't even figgure out how to turn the comp on.... |
| [11:42:29] | pilly: | any suggestions on a cheap well supported remote? |
| [11:42:53] | pilly: | maybe one with a lot of buttons.... I like buttons.... |
| [11:43:48] | dscoular: | Dunno all my dvb tuners came with remotes |
| [11:44:37] | pilly: | I may add a pvr-350 just for the decoder (well a 2nd input as well) |
| [11:45:11] | pilly: | just got a 150 now... I'm quite happy with the quality |
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| [11:45:19] | sean33: | hi |
| [11:45:28] | pilly: | hows it going?? |
| [11:46:11] | sean33: | i have been looking at other themes in myth and seem to be in one now that i cant fined the setup menu is there a text file i can edit in stead? |
| [11:46:28] | sean33: | pilly , yea ok thanks for asking and you |
| [11:47:09] | pilly: | sean33: not too bad.... a little drunk... but overall doing good.... |
| [11:47:43] | pilly: | so you want to add themes? |
| [11:48:34] | sean33: | no i want to get out of the stupid one im in now that i cant seem to find a setup menu its missing |
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| [11:49:05] | pilly: | setup, appearence I think.... |
| [11:49:28] | pilly: | the osd one is in a different spot though... |
| [11:49:33] | dscoular: | You'll have to use mysql to set the theme back if you have a broken them that doesn't have a setup node |
| [11:49:38] | sean33: | yes thats what im talking about its not there in the theme im in at the moment |
| [11:49:42] | dscoular: | s/them/theme/ |
| [11:50:05] | dscoular: | Are you 100% certain it's not just at a deeper level ? |
| [11:50:20] | dscoular: | Whats the theme called |
| [11:50:27] | sean33: | absolutly sure dam stupid |
| [11:50:28] | pilly: | prolly easiest just to reset the sql |
| [11:51:08] | sean33: | cant rember what its called i was just tring themes that came in the package |
| [11:51:38] | sean33: | it navigates horozontal with a blue background |
| [11:51:57] | pilly: | if you set the menus from default to clasic the menus are quite dilfferent.... |
| [11:52:10] | pilly: | lite blue? |
| [11:52:18] | sean33: | ya |
| [11:52:51] | dscoular: | That's why I asked about being 100% certain. There are classic menu layouts and modern ones |
| [11:52:54] | pilly: | green cursor? |
| [11:53:14] | stuarta: | green curry? |
| [11:53:31] | pilly: | if so... prolly mythcenter |
| [11:53:39] | pilly: | I like it... |
| [11:53:40] | sean33: | dont know about that |
| [11:54:37] | dscoular: | I would try ... update settings set data="blue" where value="Theme"; but usual disclaimers apply. |
| [11:55:11] | dscoular: | If you have loaded a whole load of themes that don't match your version of myth you will be in a world of hurt |
| [11:55:37] | sean33: | nope just using an rpm |
| [11:55:57] | pilly: | brb..... 2 beer in 3 beer out |
| [11:56:29] | sean33: | this mythtv was designed by idiots ! |
| [11:56:42] | dscoular: | So your myth themes rpm version matches your mythtv version rpm |
| [11:57:12] | sean33: | have to manualy edit a sql database to return to the default theme ... ok so how do i go about that |
| [11:57:35] | dscoular: | You shouldn't have to... somehow you have a broken theme |
| [11:57:39] | pilly: | how old is your install? |
| [11:57:54] | sean33: | the install is only a few weeks old |
| [11:58:24] | pilly: | easiest just to reset the whole goddamn works..... |
| [11:58:27] | dscoular: | It means whoever packaged your RPM didn't do a good job or you have version mismatch. |
| [11:58:39] | sean33: | -> mythtv-0.19–124.rhfc4.at |
| [11:58:53] | dscoular: | And what version of mythtv-themes ? |
| [11:59:11] | pilly: | you should try an install of the latest mythdora.... really nice.... |
| [11:59:12] | sean33: | thats the only rpm ive installed |
| [11:59:58] | dscoular: | Hmm... interesting |
| [12:00:19] | sean33: | ok sorry yes there is a mythtv-themes |
| [12:00:32] | sean33: | mythtv-themes-0.19–120.rhfc4.at |
| [12:00:32] | dscoular: | What a surprise ;) |
| [12:00:42] | sean33: | it was for me |
| [12:00:47] | dscoular: | :) |
| [12:00:52] | sean33: | must have been a dependancy |
| [12:01:11] | dscoular: | It would be really useful if you had an idea what the name of the broken theme is. |
| [12:01:17] | dscoular: | You can find out by... |
| [12:01:49] | dscoular: | select * from settings where value="Theme" |
| [12:01:51] | sean33: | its blue with very crapy icons |
| [12:02:10] | dscoular: | What are the top level icon titles |
| [12:02:14] | sean33: | that sounds like an sql statement |
| [12:02:46] | sean33: | i dont know how to get into mysql im only use to using postgress |
| [12:03:34] | dscoular: | What are the top level icon titles: Music, TV, Videos, Images, DVD, Games, News Feeds, Weather, NetFlix, Phone, Web, Setup ? |
| [12:03:44] | dscoular: | Or some other combo ? |
| [12:04:26] | dscoular: | postgres and mysql both use dialects of SQL (FYI) |
| [12:05:26] | sean33: | (Home) watch recordings , upcoming Recordings , Schedule Recordings , Recording Profiles, System Status, Utilities /Setup |
| [12:06:14] | pilly: | at what point should my mtd start? is it a rc5.d type of thing? |
| [12:06:26] | sean33: | Yes i know they both use SQL but I dont know how to open mysql to or even what the database for myth is called |
| [12:07:09] | pilly: | comand=mysql db=mythconverg |
| [12:07:14] | dscoular: | pilly: mythbackend starts mtd for you. |
| [12:07:36] | dscoular: | sean33: What happens when you choose "Utilities / Setup" ? |
| [12:07:41] | sean33: | so at a shell i type mysql mythconverg ? |
| [12:07:59] | pilly: | hrmmmm... well its not starting it then.... |
| [12:08:01] | pilly: | yes |
| [12:08:10] | pilly: | i think |
| [12:08:31] | dscoular: | pilly: does it ask you to hit a numeric key to start mtd ? |
| [12:08:45] | pilly: | yes |
| [12:09:01] | pilly: | 1–9 no go |
| [12:09:04] | sean33: | i get (utilities and Settings ) tv utils , music , videos , dvd , images , games |
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| [12:09:41] | dscoular: | sean33: let me change my theme and see what I get |
| [12:10:05] | dscoular: | pilly: check your mythfrontend log and your mythbackend log... see if there is any mention of mtd |
| [12:10:11] | sean33: | :( -> [mythtv@mythtv .mythtv]$ mysql mythconverg |
| [12:10:12] | sean33: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| [12:10:41] | dscoular: | Yeah... I know... wanna try this first before I delve into mysql if you aren't familiar with it. |
| [12:11:06] | sean33: | ok |
| [12:12:18] | dscoular: | sean33: Another dumb question... you've tried scrolling up beyond the top of the list and down below the bottom ? |
| [12:12:38] | sean33: | yes |
| [12:12:51] | sean33: | it just roundrobins |
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| [12:13:09] | dscoular: | ok |
| [12:13:19] | sean33: | im in mysql now :) -> mysql --user=mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg |
| [12:13:49] | dscoular: | excellent... |
| [12:13:59] | dscoular: | First thing... |
| [12:14:04] | sean33: | seems to drive alot like postgress |
| [12:14:06] | dscoular: | Lets find out what theme you have set |
| [12:14:16] | dscoular: | SQL92 is like SQL92 ;) |
| [12:14:20] | pilly: | ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /video/store/1038_20060319015617.mpg. File doesn't exist. how do I get rid of this from the db? |
| [12:14:36] | dscoular: | touch /video/store/1038_20060319015617.mpg |
| [12:14:41] | stuarta: | pilly: touch <file being complained about> |
| [12:14:55] | pilly: | cool thanks |
| [12:15:00] | sean33: | lol yea i gat that too |
| [12:15:19] | dscoular: | sean33: select * from settings where data="Theme"; |
| [12:15:58] | dscoular: | Does it give you the theme name ? |
| [12:16:47] | sean33: | Empty set (0.00 sec) |
| [12:16:51] | sean33: | nope |
| [12:16:54] | dscoular: | Wow |
| [12:17:02] | dscoular: | Try |
| [12:17:08] | dscoular: | select * from settings; |
| [12:17:35] | sean33: | ooow lots of stuff there |
| [12:17:40] | dscoular: | Ok... sorry |
| [12:17:43] | dscoular: | I got it wrong |
| [12:17:47] | Zork_: | Is there a way to pass parameters to ivtv from mythtv? |
| [12:17:48] | dscoular: | hold on a tick |
| [12:18:32] | dscoular: | sean33: try this: select * from settings where value="Theme"; |
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| [12:19:45] | sean33: | gees its got a set of settings for each time the host name changed sheeze |
| [12:20:14] | sean33: | i had it on dhcp for a bit , but now has a static address |
| [12:20:21] | dscoular: | So what was the result of the select ? |
| [12:20:57] | sean33: | Minimalist-wide |
| [12:21:13] | sean33: | | value | data | hostname | |
| [12:21:13] | sean33: | +-------+-----------------+-----------------------+ |
| [12:21:13] | sean33: | | Theme | G.A.N.T. | lanpc228 | |
| [12:21:13] | sean33: | | Theme | G.A.N.T. | lanpc229 | |
| [12:21:13] | sean33: | | Theme | G.A.N.T. | localhost.localdomain | |
| [12:21:13] | sean33: | | Theme | Minimalist-wide | mythtv.internal.lan | |
| [12:21:24] | sean33: | sorry for the flood |
| [12:21:30] | dscoular: | Okay do this: |
| [12:21:46] | sean33: | maybe an idea to get rid of the other hosts too |
| [12:22:03] | dscoular: | update settings set data="G.A.N.T" where value="Theme"; |
| [12:22:25] | dscoular: | I'd leave the other hostname entries... and read up the mythtv HOWTO |
| [12:22:34] | sean33: | your good at the sql stuff arnt you |
| [12:22:50] | dscoular: | I am old skool... unfortunately |
| [12:23:08] | Zork_: | And don't forget to commit ;-) |
| [12:23:19] | stuarta: | autocommit |
| [12:23:23] | dscoular: | you don't need to commit for mysql... unless... |
| [12:23:29] | Zork_: | ah, okay ;-) |
| [12:23:46] | Zork_: | used to oracle :-D |
| [12:24:00] | dscoular: | It is only transactional in certain bizarro advanced uber diety configs. |
| [12:24:08] | sean33: | well thanks that was alot of help :) |
| [12:24:15] | dscoular: | Did it work ? |
| [12:25:18] | dscoular: | I've just set mine to minimalist wide for a laugh |
| [12:25:39] | dscoular: | God... it looks crap! |
| [12:26:03] | sean33: | can you get the setup ? |
| [12:26:34] | dscoular: | No! But I think there must be away... there's a kinda down arrow icon suggesting more choices |
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| [12:26:48] | dscoular: | At least we know the rpm isn't broken |
| [12:27:13] | dscoular: | It's actually intended... mainly since it's designed for a 16:9 telly not a crappy 4:3 like me clunker ;) |
| [12:28:20] | dscoular: | me... trundles off to fire up mysql ;) |
| [12:28:32] | sean33: | lol |
| [12:29:01] | sean33: | yes i saw the down arrow but all keys do nothing |
| [12:29:12] | dscoular: | Yep... that's is a bit of a bugger! |
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| [12:29:41] | dscoular: | No doubt there some key combo to get you to it... but mashing didn't work for me. |
| [12:29:59] | dscoular: | Anyway... glad that helped you out... (it did work didn't it) ? |
| [12:30:00] | kev`: | hi, i get an error while receiving data from tvtoday: Error in 4:201: unexpected end of file somebody know whats the problem? |
| [12:30:13] | sean33: | yep |
| [12:30:27] | dscoular: | Ok... I'm off to bed... have fun sean33 |
| [12:30:34] | sean33: | thanks |
| [12:30:39] | dscoular: | Anytime |
| [12:30:49] | sean33: | i wonder if i should dare to try another theme |
| [12:31:29] | dscoular: | Hey, why not... live dangerously now you know how to fix it. |
| [12:31:33] | sean33: | i just want to be able to read the text |
| [12:31:43] | dscoular: | Doesn't seem to be too much to ask |
| [12:31:47] | sean33: | lol ya thanks |
| [12:31:57] | dscoular: | K... have fun |
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| [12:44:34] | kev`: | hi, i get an error while receiving data from tvtoday: Error in 4:201: unexpected end of file somebody know whats the problem? |
| [12:45:33] | stuarta: | you might find your download is truncated. |
| [12:45:57] | stuarta: | look at it in an editor and fixup or delete the very last entry. |
| [12:46:17] | stuarta: | respecting any closing tags you might need. |
| [12:47:15] | stuarta: | alternatively tvtoday may have shat itself breifly |
| [12:48:00] | Zork_: | Yesterday I was talking about a problem I was having with playing mpg's from my mythbox in windows media player. There was another guy here with the same problem. If that is you, I found the solution. (in short, you have to set VBI to NONE in mythtv-setup, and do an ivtvctl --set-vbi-embed=0, to turn of VBI in the mpg's). |
| [12:48:20] | kev`: | stuarta: i cant find the file, where do i have to look at? |
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| [14:01:53] | ** stuarta titsup ** | |
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| [14:12:45] | stuarta: | !trout gardengnome |
| [14:12:45] | ** MythLogBot slaps gardengnome with a trout on behalf of stuarta... ** | |
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| [14:13:43] | gardengnome: | !trout stuarta |
| [14:13:43] | ** MythLogBot slaps stuarta with a trout on behalf of gardengnome... ** | |
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| [14:19:04] | cout: | is it possible to set mythtv to keep a recording? |
| [14:19:23] | stuarta: | tell it not to autoexpire it. |
| [14:19:49] | cout: | can that be done from mythweb or do I have to use the frontend? |
| [14:20:14] | stuarta: | not from mythweb, frontend yes, mysql yes. |
| [14:20:36] | cout: | ok, thanks |
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| [14:45:42] | cout: | does live tv always get expired before recrorded programs? |
| [14:46:19] | jams: | cout yes |
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| [15:06:44] | ste__: | lo |
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| [15:23:48] | phar0e: | screw linux, i'm going with freebsd for mythtv |
| [15:23:51] | phar0e: | that's right, I said it |
| [15:24:20] | Merlin83b2: | Good luck with that. |
| [15:24:48] | phar0e: | I'm betting everything will just work first time around |
| [15:24:56] | Merlin83b2: | I'm betting otherwise :-) |
| [15:25:17] | phar0e: | really? |
| [15:25:20] | stuarta: | mwahahahaha |
| [15:25:24] | phar0e: | what if it's just the frontend, then where are your bets? |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b2: | Same place, but you stand more of a chance. |
| [15:26:04] | Fredde87: | if you use the freebsd port I think it code work first time around, but it is very outdated, 0.16 or something |
| [15:26:13] | phar0e: | lol |
| [15:26:33] | phar0e: | in 0.20 release notes they say they fixed compilation problems with freebsd |
| [15:26:39] | phar0e: | so I'll keep my fingers crossed |
| [15:26:41] | Merlin83b2: | Oh, nice. |
| [15:27:53] | Fredde87: | Got some problems in mythtv 0.19-fixes. If I use JMPEG in the live-tv profile the video will stutter, it will stop a sec a produce a NVP prebuffer pause. If I switch to mpeg4 it will not produce this error, instead the video will go into slow motion when it would have otherwise "hung" for a second.. Trying changing mpeg2 decoders but it doesnt make a huge difference. |
| [15:28:32] | Fredde87: | its just a standard pal s-video input |
| [15:29:58] | Fredde87: | this started when I actived the sound (hadnt configured it earlier) |
| [15:30:41] | stuarta: | might need to turn on aggresive sound card buffering |
| [15:30:43] | phar0e: | hmm |
| [15:31:05] | Fredde87: | I'll give that a try, just a sec |
| [15:32:48] | Fredde87: | where do I find it? :S |
| [15:33:20] | stuarta: | think it's in the frontend setup |
| [15:35:34] | Fredde87: | seems like they have removed it in 0.19 or I have gone blind :S |
| [15:35:59] | phar0e: | did you try under settings >> tv playback? |
| [15:36:11] | Fredde87: | found it |
| [15:36:30] | Fredde87: | i was looking under tv settings, forgot to check the general settings P: |
| [15:37:11] | Fredde87: | didnt help |
| [15:37:16] | Fredde87: | actually it seems to have gotten worse |
| [15:37:35] | stuarta: | !seen Juski |
| [15:37:36] | MythLogBot: | Juski was last seen 4 hours 57 minutes 36 seconds ago |
| [15:41:09] | phar0e: | !seen scallies |
| [15:41:09] | MythLogBot: | scallies has not been seen here |
| [15:41:13] | phar0e: | good |
| [15:41:21] | phar0e: | !trout titsup |
| [15:41:22] | ** MythLogBot slaps titsup with a trout on behalf of phar0e... ** | |
| [15:41:31] | phar0e: | thank you mr bot sir |
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| [15:41:50] | stuarta: | bot needs education. |
| [15:42:06] | stuarta is now known as titsup | |
| [15:42:10] | phar0e: | lol |
| [15:42:13] | titsup: | !trout phar0e |
| [15:42:13] | ** MythLogBot slaps phar0e with a trout on behalf of titsup... ** | |
| [15:42:20] | titsup is now known as stuarta | |
| [15:42:21] | phar0e: | brilliant |
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| [15:58:22] | Beirdo: | !trout stuarta |
| [15:58:22] | ** MythLogBot slaps stuarta with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [15:59:20] | stuarta: | Beirdo: the bot will trout people who aren't here :) |
| [15:59:27] | Merlin83b2: | Such a violent channel thesedays. |
| [15:59:27] | Beirdo: | of course |
| [15:59:36] | Beirdo: | I'm not gonna check |
| [15:59:37] | Merlin83b2: | !trout itself |
| [15:59:37] | ** MythLogBot slaps itself with a trout on behalf of Merlin83b2... ** | |
| [16:00:18] | stuarta: | !trout Merlin83b2 |
| [16:00:18] | ** MythLogBot slaps Merlin83b2 with a trout on behalf of stuarta... ** | |
| [16:00:30] | Merlin83b2: | :< |
| [16:00:32] | Beirdo: | !trout itself in the crotch |
| [16:00:32] | ** MythLogBot slaps itself in the crotch with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [16:00:54] | Merlin83b2: | !trout nobody |
| [16:00:54] | ** MythLogBot slaps nobody with a trout on behalf of Merlin83b2... ** | |
| [16:00:56] | ** stuarta cringes ** | |
| [16:01:07] | Beirdo: | anyways... |
| [16:02:09] | sphing: | Beirdo: you said yesterday you were also experiencing the be resource thing |
| [16:02:18] | Beirdo: | OK, I got 4h to finish some work |
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| [16:27:43] | scopeuk: | is there a performaccne boostfrom .18 to .19? |
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| [16:37:06] | Beirdo: | f'ing netsplits |
| [16:37:27] | Beirdo: | !trout the IRC network |
| [16:37:27] | ** MythLogBot slaps the IRC network with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [16:37:33] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
| [16:37:42] | Merlin83b2: | That'll show 'em! |
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| [16:40:17] | stuarta: | netsplits make the channel even quieter :) |
| [16:41:31] | Beirdo: | argh. |
| [16:41:41] | Beirdo: | I just went to look something up online, and forget what |
| [16:51:07] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I do that all the time :/ It's really annoying |
| [16:52:36] | gardengnome: | and then you get stuck with some porn top list. i know that feeling. |
| [16:52:48] | RaYmAn-Bx: | lol |
| [16:53:04] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I'm surprised those even still exist |
| [16:53:08] | stuarta: | you'd have a good view from knee level... |
| [16:54:17] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [16:54:58] | ** stuarta feels like barbequing trout... ** | |
| [16:55:37] | gardengnome: | yeah, that's what spring feels like. |
| [16:55:58] | stuarta: | all I need now is a garden... |
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| [17:01:07] | gardengnome: | heh :) i can't wait till it get really warm again. you just can't beat a fridge full of beer and some good friends having a bbq :) |
| [17:01:46] | stuarta: | that's the main thing I miss from Australia |
| [17:02:46] | gardengnome: | well, aren't there any public places where you could have a bbq? i know a few places near my location where you can rent a hut and have a bbq there |
| [17:03:16] | stuarta: | there's alway someone with a backyard, the hard part is a nice day :) |
| [17:03:33] | gardengnome: | heh :) do you live in the UK now? |
| [17:03:39] | stuarta: | yep. |
| [17:04:13] | Merlin83b2: | One day I'll have a garden... |
| [17:04:23] | ** stuarta aspires to a garden ** | |
| [17:04:42] | Merlin83b2: | I would have to give up living in the middle of Manchester for that. |
| [17:04:47] | gardengnome: | yeah, i've heard the weather over there sucks :) on new year's eve, we were at a location with huge in-door fireplaces where you could have a bbq. that rocked :) and nobody complained when you were smoking in that room, heh |
| [17:04:50] | Merlin83b2: | For now, I'm happy to be where I am and have friends with gardens :-) |
| [17:05:15] | stuarta: | then I can get a decent sat dish, and persue world domination with myth |
| [17:05:20] | Merlin83b2: | Heh. |
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| [17:56:46] | praet: | anyone there |
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| [17:57:52] | praet: | im wondering if you can use the mic in port for audio capture in instead of the pvr card |
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| [18:12:33] | Kelerion: | praet.. nope... doesn't work like that |
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| [18:20:52] | xris: | praet: depends on what kind of tuner card.. hardware encoder, no. |
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| [18:28:00] | mac: | hi, is there any "easy" way to configure mythtv to do specific jobs (flagging ads and transcoding) on a faster machine? |
| [18:30:32] | xris: | mac: I think it just goes based on which machine is least busy |
| [18:30:54] | xris: | could easily cron mythcommflag to run every hour or so on the faster machine.. it's smart enough not to step on other instances. |
| [18:31:13] | mac: | so I setup 2 mythbackends |
| [18:31:35] | mac: | Do they have to have access to the same files, ie on a nfs volume? |
| [18:31:40] | xris: | for transcode, you'd need to. |
| [18:32:08] | xris: | for commflag, you just need to install/configure, but don't need a running backend |
| [18:32:23] | mac: | I see |
| [18:32:28] | xris: | and yeah, pretty sure it needs direct access to the files. |
| [18:33:24] | mac: | And how is decided which backend encodes/commflags the files? Other than removing mythcommflag on the slower cpu :) |
| [18:34:14] | xris: | whichever one is least busy, I think... honestly, I'm not really sure, though. |
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| [18:35:02] | Huijari: | hi |
| [18:35:07] | Huijari: | i could use some help |
| [18:35:29] | mac: | Ok, thanks |
| [18:35:35] | Huijari: | i've got mysql set up properly, but mythtv keeps whining about not being able to connect the database |
| [18:35:45] | mac: | Huijari: install the qt mysql module |
| [18:35:48] | mac: | Easiest guess |
| [18:36:00] | Huijari: | thanks, i'll try that |
| [18:36:21] | mac: | xris: how do 2 masters communicate with each other .. I haven't seen this documentated anywhere yet |
| [18:37:30] | xris: | mac: you mean what port? 6543 and 6544 by default.... |
| [18:37:35] | xris: | it's all set up in mythtv-setup |
| [18:38:50] | mac: | Yeah I know how to setup mythtv.. I mean, how do the 2 backends know how to communicate with each other.. one has to know there is the other backend so they can form some sort of network.. little puzzled here |
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| [18:39:58] | xris: | mac: that's all in mythtv-setup... "master backend IP" |
| [18:40:14] | mac: | Ok |
| [18:40:18] | mac: | I'll look for it |
| [18:40:18] | xris: | it's all stored in the database, |
| [18:40:52] | xris: | once you configure the master backend, you generally just need the others to know where the database is. |
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| [18:54:07] | kev`: | re |
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| [19:00:40] | Huijari: | mac: may sound dumb, nut i can't figure out how i can install the module |
| [19:01:06] | Huijari: | didn't find anything useful in portage and google gave nothing either |
| [19:01:17] | Huijari: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [19:01:17] | Huijari: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QSQLITE |
| [19:01:52] | Huijari: | i get that when i'm starting mythtv or mythtv-setup |
| [19:01:53] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Huijari: in gentoo you just need to install mysql before QT and make sure the mysql USE flag is set when emerging QT |
| [19:02:08] | Huijari: | RaYmAn-Bx: ok, thanks |
| [19:02:37] | Huijari: | i'm pretty sure that i've emerged qt before mysql, so this sounds reasonable |
| [19:05:00] | Huijari: | darn, qt takes half an hour to compile and the CSI episode that is directed by Tarantino starts in ten minutes :/ |
| [19:05:40] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Huijari: such is life (although, I still don't understand why mythbackend even requires QT) |
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| [19:08:06] | meushi: | RaYmAn-Bx: I'd guess it's for all the nice helper classes and abstraction layers it provides |
| [19:08:31] | Likwid: | apparently i got lirc working, but now ivtv stopped working :( |
| [19:08:45] | RaYmAn-Bx: | meushi: I guess you are right. It's still annoying that you can't run a backend (or even just mythfilldatabase) without having QT and hence X installed |
| [19:09:05] | meushi: | RaYmAn-Bx: I run mythbackend with just xlibs installed |
| [19:09:43] | RaYmAn-Bx: | meushi: I guess that's livable |
| [19:10:22] | meushi: | RaYmAn-Bx: it sucks a bit when you have to run myth-setup on a deported X over wifi tho :p |
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| [19:10:51] | RaYmAn-Bx: | meushi: heh, I can imagine |
| [19:13:03] | Likwid: | hey guys, what does it mean when i get a seek failed when i try to play an mepg file in mplayer? |
| [19:13:11] | Hoxzer: | juski? |
| [19:13:20] | Hoxzer: | Huijari: wtf finnish guy using Mythtv |
| [19:13:27] | Hoxzer: | we gotta keep in touch |
| [19:13:37] | Likwid: | arghh, all my files ive been capturing from the cardto test it are all 0 bytes :( |
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| [19:14:35] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Likwid: pvr card? |
| [19:14:46] | Likwid: | yea 350 |
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| [19:14:55] | Likwid: | it just stopped working |
| [19:15:51] | RaYmAn-Bx: | and you didn't change anything? |
| [19:15:54] | Likwid: | reemerged ivtv and im still getting no data from the card, but the hauppauge remote works fine |
| [19:16:07] | Likwid: | just the card wont give me any data |
| [19:17:56] | RaYmAn-Bx: | if you haven't changed anything I don't know...I had the same problem on a via epia sp with pvr 500..seemed to be a dma problem..ended up just sending it back and getting a board with an intel chipset and a pentium m cpu |
| [19:18:32] | Likwid: | i just got the card for christmas though |
| [19:19:31] | Likwid: | and i dont wanna have to get rid of gentoo and install windows just to test the card out :( ive been struggling with this for like a week now lol |
| [19:19:50] | RaYmAn-Bx: | you don't remember what changed when it stopped working? It has to be something |
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| [19:20:34] | Lathi: | how far can you run s-video or standard component video cables? |
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| [19:21:15] | gardengnome: | Likwid: check www.ivtvdriver.org for hints |
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| [19:21:26] | Likwid: | i dont know, thats why i tried unmerging ivtv and emerging it again |
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| [19:21:29] | Likwid: | ok thanks |
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| [19:21:53] | Lathi: | i've got a server that i'd like ot setup as a myth backend and hook up to a TV that's about 50 feet away |
| [19:22:11] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Likwid: it just seems weird if it appeared out of nothing |
| [19:22:16] | Lathi: | is that possible? or would i need to go ahead and get a front end for that TV? |
| [19:22:27] | gardengnome: | http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/API_change – we should watch out for that :) |
| [19:23:45] | scopeuk: | guys good news my 433 is now handelign live tv |
| [19:23:55] | scopeuk: | handeling* with a frame grabber |
| [19:23:58] | bio__: | lathi: why shouldnt it? |
| [19:23:59] | scopeuk: | .19 is sweet |
| [19:24:22] | gardengnome: | scopeuk: you're a lucky guy :) |
| [19:24:27] | Lathi: | bio__: i just don't know how far you can run s-video or rca cables without too much signal loss |
| [19:24:34] | scopeuk: | gardengnome some times |
| [19:24:45] | bio__: | hm, whats 50 feet in meters? |
| [19:24:46] | scopeuk: | lucky in what way that y 433 and banshe are comping? |
| [19:24:52] | scopeuk: | devide by 3 |
| [19:24:58] | scopeuk: | bout 15 – 20 ish |
| [19:25:00] | bio__: | my cable is about 20 meters i´d say |
| [19:25:12] | Lathi: | bio__: 15.24 meters |
| [19:25:46] | Dibblah_: | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=50+feet&sa=Search+Google |
| [19:25:50] | bio__: | ic. my cable is longer then that and im satisfied with the quality |
| [19:26:00] | Dibblah_: | I like google :) |
| [19:26:00] | scopeuk: | wowt live tv = 60% cpu usage |
| [19:26:09] | Lathi: | bio__: cool. that's what i was hoping |
| [19:26:14] | scopeuk: | 90% nw sorry |
| [19:26:33] | Likwid: | RaYmAn-Bx: i know, everything worked fine, installed mythtv, tried watching livetv and nothing happened |
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| [19:27:00] | bio__: | lathi: well, dont say you will be satisfied. i also dont realize a different between my sb pci 128 and one of those high-end audigys |
| [19:27:13] | Likwid: | RaYmAn-Bx: so i did cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg and waited a few seconds and hit ctrl+c and the size of the file was 0 |
| [19:27:39] | Likwid: | i can see the card in lspci too |
| [19:27:46] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Likwid: sorry, can't help...try different kernel versions, different ivtv versions and different firmware versions |
| [19:28:07] | Dibblah_: | And cold restarts as well as the power of prayer. |
| [19:28:17] | Lathi: | bio__: as an "ease into mythtv", my plan is to just rip all my kids' VHS movies to a server and let them use that; so quality isn't that big of a deal |
| [19:28:20] | Likwid: | lol i was just gonna do a cold restart |
| [19:28:21] | RaYmAn-Bx: | as I said, I had the same problem and I tried just about everything...worked immediately when I used it in new box |
| [19:28:29] | Beirdo: | use a baseball bat too |
| [19:28:42] | Dibblah_: | Different slots sometimes helps. |
| [19:28:45] | ** gardengnome hands Beirdo a trout (for cuddling) ** | |
| [19:28:50] | Dibblah_: | I found the toaster worked best. |
| [19:28:56] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:29:13] | Lathi: | bio__: i guess i'd have to get some IR relay or something to get a remote working as well? |
| [19:29:14] | Likwid: | thats true, i might try that if all else fails, im so sick of screwing around with this box |
| [19:29:32] | ** Beirdo chucks a wireless mouse at gardengnome ** | |
| [19:29:38] | bio__: | lathi: is it in line of sight? |
| [19:29:43] | Lathi: | bio__: no |
| [19:29:57] | Dibblah_: | !help |
| [19:29:57] | MythLogBot: | Use "help" followed by a bot command. For a list of bot commands, use "list" |
| [19:29:57] | ** gardengnome sells it on ebay and gets scammed :/ ** | |
| [19:30:03] | Dibblah_: | Oops. |
| [19:30:05] | bio__: | then everyone on this chan told me: ati remote wonder |
| [19:30:14] | ** Dibblah_ apologises for touching the bot. ** | |
| [19:30:38] | Dibblah_: | ... Well, in-channel, anyway :) |
| [19:30:43] | Likwid: | well its time to go to work, thanks again everyone |
| [19:30:44] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [19:30:46] | Beirdo: | go nuts |
| [19:30:51] | Beirdo: | !trout Dibblah_ |
| [19:30:51] | ** MythLogBot slaps Dibblah_ with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [19:30:53] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:30:54] | gardengnome: | !trout Dibblah_ |
| [19:30:54] | ** MythLogBot slaps Dibblah_ with a trout on behalf of gardengnome... ** | |
| [19:30:55] | gardengnome: | darn |
| [19:30:57] | Lathi: | bio__: thanks, that looks great |
| [19:31:03] | Likwid: | im gonna turn the comp off till i get back from work |
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| [19:31:11] | Dibblah: | Missed! |
| [19:31:21] | bio__: | and because i didnt want to spend money i´m right now changing bemused to better work with mythtv, so i can control mythtv from my bluetooth mobile phone |
| [19:31:51] | Lathi: | will this ati remote wonder work even without an ati graphics card? |
| [19:32:04] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Lathi: works great! |
| [19:32:05] | bio__: | sure |
| [19:32:21] | bio__: | a panasonic car radio also works well with a bmw ;) |
| [19:32:42] | RaYmAn-Bx: | saphire also has a version of it that (at least here) is slightly cheaper..but exactly the same, except that the codes lirc receives are slightly different |
| [19:33:17] | Dibblah: | Must be a different meaning of exactly the same that I've not seen before... |
| [19:33:42] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Dibblah: it's the cool definition ;P |
| [19:33:57] | RaYmAn-Bx: | it looks and works exactly the same...that's good enough for me |
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| [19:34:33] | RaYmAn-Bx: | it even only says "Ati" on it |
| [19:34:42] | Huijari: | Hoxzer: yeah, so? :D |
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| [19:34:58] | Huijari: | gtg --> |
| [19:35:05] | Hoxzer: | Huijari: do you know that there are not many peapol in finland using mythtv |
| [19:35:06] | Dibblah: | Sounds like the MCE remote dongle. |
| [19:35:17] | Hoxzer: | Btw have you got commercial skip work? |
| [19:35:28] | Dibblah: | Not many peapol on Finland anyway. |
| [19:35:31] | Huijari: | Hoxzer: no |
| [19:35:41] | Huijari: | i have some friends using it too |
| [19:35:42] | Hoxzer: | :( |
| [19:35:52] | Huijari: | mut got to go --> |
| [19:36:06] | Beirdo: | many reindeer using MythTV? |
| [19:38:07] | ste__: | but there are only about 5Million(?) people in Finland.. so proportionally, there are lots using MythTV |
| [19:38:59] | Dibblah: | Well, you do have to find indoor hobbies, I guess ;) |
| [19:39:04] | scopeuk: | heh that whould be interested |
| [19:39:09] | scopeuk: | world map wit hpercentage use of myth tv |
| [19:39:30] | Dibblah: | http://www.frappr.com/mythtvusers |
| [19:40:25] | ste__: | nice |
| [19:41:15] | Lathi: | looking at pvrhw database, it looks like the hauppauge wintv pvr 350 is one of the more recommended cards? |
| [19:41:21] | Dibblah: | So, noone in FI. |
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| [19:42:49] | bio__: | no usergroup in austria :/ |
| [19:43:15] | roger55: | bio__, what? |
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| [19:43:32] | gardengnome: | bio__: well, we have some german users gatherin in #mythtv-de |
| [19:43:57] | bio__: | fine, thank you :) |
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| [19:48:10] | scopeuk: | wow is .19 less stable than .18? |
| [19:48:30] | scopeuk: | 2 crashes in 15 minutes |
| [19:48:32] | scopeuk: | new record |
| [19:48:39] | gardengnome: | works fine for me |
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| [19:49:10] | scopeuk: | probably some part of my hardware |
| [19:49:18] | scopeuk: | or could jsut be fresh isntall bugs |
| [19:49:25] | ste__: | what card(s) do you have scopeuk? |
| [19:49:37] | scopeuk: | single bt 878 |
| [19:50:39] | ste__: | is it the Hauppauge card? |
| [19:51:14] | dinki: | Hi guys. Can someone give me a push in the right direction? I'm having trouble setting the tuner for my avermedia m179 and pvr150 cards. I'm using a debian based (knoppix) install. |
| [19:51:59] | scopeuk: | ste__ ys |
| [19:52:07] | scopeuk: | im using the latest version of knoppmyth |
| [19:52:15] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Dibblah: any particular kind of trouble? :P A good start is to just focus on getting either card working first and then move on to the second afterwards |
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| [19:58:31] | Juski: | evening folks |
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| [19:59:29] | dinki: | I'm needing to set the tuner of the pvr150 to 50 and the avermedia m179 to tuner 2 . Can someone tell me where I can set those options? I had previously done it in a file called /etc/modprobe.d/ivtv |
| [19:59:40] | dinki: | but this no longer works with the new KnoppMyth |
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| [20:04:43] | RaYmAn-Bx: | dinki: are you sure you need to set it? Recent ivtv versions are quite good at autodetecting... |
| [20:05:01] | Lathi: | i'm looking for an order of magnitude of effort for setting up a simple mythtv box. i've got many years of linux sys admin under my belt and a working linux server based on debian sarge. roughly how much time to get mythtv working with a single hauppauge pvr 350 as both video capture and video output and an ati remote wonder? |
| [20:05:07] | Lathi: | is that a single day's job? |
| [20:05:37] | Lathi: | my debian sarge system is very stable and has plenty of storage |
| [20:05:41] | phatmonkey: | took an afternoon to get mine all working |
| [20:05:47] | phatmonkey: | but I have set up mythtv boxes before |
| [20:05:50] | RaYmAn-Bx: | depends on distribution, luck and whether you use binary or source installation :P |
| [20:06:02] | gardengnome: | Lathi: maybe a weekend's. depends. the pvr 350 may give you some trouble, or to be more specific: the tv-out part. capture should work fine |
| [20:06:11] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I still haven't entirely finished setting up my mythbox and I started like a week ago |
| [20:06:28] | gardengnome: | it took me like 6 months for my first mythtv box ;) |
| [20:06:33] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:06:36] | Lathi: | ouch |
| [20:06:46] | Beirdo: | took me like 1.5 days |
| [20:06:48] | gardengnome: | but keep in mind that it suck ;) |
| [20:06:59] | Beirdo: | and 1 day of that was waiting for the store to open to buy a tuner |
| [20:07:02] | dinki: | Rayman: I'm seeing tuner 1–0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0) |
| [20:08:15] | Lathi: | i've also got an old matrox g200 video card in it now that has s-video out... would that be easier than the pvr 350's video out? |
| [20:09:17] | Juski: | my mythbox took me about 2 weeks on & off, but I was new to gentoo & had to compile _everything_ |
| [20:09:32] | Lathi: | what's the simplest video out card i can setup? |
| [20:09:41] | gardengnome: | my myth box on gentoo took me like two days ;) but i had more experience then |
| [20:09:52] | gardengnome: | Lathi: nvidia cards are quite easy with the binary drivers |
| [20:09:56] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Lathi: an external vga->tv converter? ;) |
| [20:10:56] | _mac_: | I setup two backends.. I want to run jobs that orginate from the frontend (which is also the master backend) on the secondary backend.. Anything special I need to do? its not running the job |
| [20:13:08] | _mac_: | I think the two backends need to access the same mysql database |
| [20:13:18] | Lathi: | do you guys usually run from source out of subversion? is it that important to track development changes to mythtv? or is just using the releases good enough? |
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| [20:14:00] | RaYmAn-Bx: | I use the 0.19-fixes branch..haven't had any problems so far...obviously it's more dangerous to use trunk since it's more likely to break |
| [20:14:56] | Lathi: | are there good debian apt sources for mythtv? |
| [20:15:44] | gardengnome: | maybe marillat, but i don't know if he has 0.19 for sarge yet. please let me know :) |
| [20:16:15] | gardengnome: | Lathi: you could also get mythtv from the debian project directly, but iirc it hasn't been packaged yet and it lacks support for liblame |
| [20:17:46] | Lathi: | looks like marillat is 0.18 built against sarge, etch, and sid |
| [20:18:03] | gardengnome: | marillat has 0.19, i'm sure. maybe you can backport it |
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| [20:21:23] | Dibblah: | gardengnome: You mean they haven't finished stripping out mentions of the "eeevil lame code"? |
| [20:22:12] | scopeuk: | yeh this confuses me what part of myth dont the debian people like? |
| [20:22:30] | Dibblah: | lame. |
| [20:22:39] | Dibblah: | And, apparently, just lame. |
| [20:22:40] | scopeuk: | nod |
| [20:23:00] | Lathi: | hmm, sarge has lame in it |
| [20:23:00] | Dibblah: | They don't have any problem with any of the rest of the encumbered codecs. |
| [20:23:05] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:23:28] | Beirdo: | I'm pretty sure that their bastardized version of mythtv is absolutely unsupported by mythtv developers |
| [20:23:47] | Lathi: | what about marillat's? |
| [20:24:44] | Beirdo: | if it's a simple build and deb build, I can't see why not |
| [20:24:53] | Beirdo: | but when they "remove lame support" |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | good luck getting help with that |
| [20:25:14] | Lathi: | so is the lame that i've installed from sarge no good? |
| [20:25:28] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [20:25:32] | Beirdo: | I use ubuntu |
| [20:25:34] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [20:25:45] | Lathi: | heh, fair enough. how do i check it? |
| [20:25:55] | Beirdo: | does it work? |
| [20:26:10] | Lathi: | heh, dunno |
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| [20:26:23] | Lathi: | i'm in the middle up an apt-get upgrade right now |
| [20:26:28] | Beirdo: | oh. hehe |
| [20:26:38] | Lathi: | my kernel's been updated; so i need a reboot :-/ |
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| [20:29:59] | Lathi: | am i still connected? |
| [20:30:17] | Lathi: | sweet |
| [20:30:44] | _mac_: | Is there some guide I need to follow to set up transcoding? |
| [20:31:58] | ftp3: | when i watch avi files with xine, about 10min in the movie says "restoring index". goes from 1% to 100% over about 10min then the movie stops, every time i play it it does the same thing |
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| [20:32:14] | ftp3: | has anyone seen this before? |
| [20:32:28] | Beirdo: | so don't watch avi files with xine |
| [20:32:36] | Beirdo: | what does this have to do with mythtv, BTW? |
| [20:32:57] | ftp3: | its how i watch the movies in "videos" |
| [20:32:59] | ftp3: | in mythtv |
| [20:33:02] | Beirdo: | oh |
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| [20:33:07] | kormoc: | ftp3, why not use the internal player? |
| [20:33:10] | Beirdo: | well, you could try the internal |
| [20:33:19] | kormoc: | ftp3, and the reason it does that is the index of the file is corrupt. |
| [20:33:53] | ftp3: | whats the internal player? it was set to mplayer but I could only hear sound and not see video |
| [20:34:16] | kormoc: | ftp3, the internal player is the same player recorded tv/live tv uses |
| [20:34:30] | kormoc: | internal to myth, doesn't spawn an external player, etc. |
| [20:35:25] | ftp3: | i see. ok, i will play with that. I have another issue, everytime I click "back" on my remote and it goes to the "Do you really want to exit MythTV", the screen locks.. |
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| [20:36:40] | Lathi: | marillat's mythtv doesn't seem to depend on lame |
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| [20:42:26] | ftp3: | has anyone else had that lockup on the exit screen? |
| [20:43:07] | ftp3: | i can still go back into mythtv by pressing "esc" but i cannot exit mythtv |
| [20:44:09] | Beirdo: | you sure that's not some sort of window manager focus issue? |
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| [20:45:12] | Lathi: | what is nas used for? if i have a separate front end from backend? |
| [20:46:13] | kormoc: | Lathi, NAS can be a few things. I assume you mean the audio one? |
| [20:46:20] | Lathi: | yes |
| [20:46:42] | kormoc: | it means you can play a audio file on your server and stream it to another computer, aye, but myth doesn't do that. |
| [20:47:28] | _mac_: | Is there filter support for mythtranscode? |
| [20:48:36] | xris: | _mac_: huh? |
| [20:49:07] | eleazar123: | hey guys, is there a way to have myth look for videos in multiple directories? (like when i click manage videos, have it load video files from more than just the one i set in settings) |
| [20:49:09] | _mac_: | xris: I mean, can I apply video filters when running a mythtranscode job? I need to clear up the video of my hardware mpeg2 encoder |
| [20:49:12] | _mac_: | Didn't find anything yet |
| [20:49:25] | _mac_: | eleazar123: use symlinks or so |
| [20:49:28] | _mac_: | it all has to be in one location |
| [20:49:56] | xris: | _mac_: I don't think so.. esp. since the main thing people do these days is the lossless commercial cutting, and use nuvexport for exporting to other file formats. |
| [20:50:30] | _mac_: | xris: but when I export it to another file format, I can't watch the recording in mythtv's recoding menu, right? |
| [20:50:36] | eleazar123: | _mac_ so if i wanted to have it load videos from /home/eleazar/external, and /mnt/archive/homemovies, i would create a symlink for both folders to point to one location? (ie. /home/eleazar/movies/)? |
| [20:50:39] | dtm: | _mac_: if not, you could replace its executable with a wrapper script |
| [20:50:47] | xris: | _mac_: you'd pop it into mythvideo, so no. |
| [20:51:01] | _mac_: | I see |
| [20:51:02] | _mac_: | Hmm. |
| [20:51:31] | dtm: | _mac_: you could use something like 'mencoder -oac copy -vf hqdn3d,spp=6 $@' |
| [20:51:59] | _mac_: | Yeah I read about mencoder and mythtv.. |
| [20:52:01] | Lathi: | ok, if i rip a dvd to like a VIDEO_TS directory with .VOB files and such, can mythtv handle that? or do i need to encode them all as something else like mp4? |
| [20:52:30] | dinki: | Does anyone know how to resolve an ivtv tuner unset problem? |
| [20:52:39] | _mac_: | dtm: And mythtranscode (or whatever) can actually *CUT* the detected ads and other cut points loslessly? |
| [20:52:57] | xris: | _mac_: yes |
| [20:53:09] | dtm: | _mac_: yeah whatever part of mythtv does that, can do it |
| [20:53:14] | _mac_: | What kind of profile need do I setup for that? |
| [20:53:16] | xris: | (it's mythtranscode) |
| [20:54:45] | _mac_: | Found it |
| [20:55:39] | dtm: | i haven't ever done it |
| [20:56:00] | Anduin: | Lathi – How do you want it handled? |
| [20:56:40] | Lathi: | i guess i'd just ilke the movie to show up in the mythtv movie list and then play the movie at full-res |
| [20:57:15] | Lathi: | what's the "recommended" way to rip dvds for use in mythtv? |
| [20:57:37] | xris: | Lathi: mythdvd + mythvideo, I think. |
| [20:57:47] | Anduin: | Lathi – There isn't one, you can rip to your VIDEO_TS directory, or just individual .vobs, or .isos |
| [20:58:29] | Anduin: | Lathi – But yes, MythVideo is what handles separate directories. |
| [20:58:36] | cout: | how can I keep mpeg1 streams encoded on my pvr 150 from being "squished"? mpeg2 streams are fine, but mpeg1 streams seem to be half-height. |
| [20:59:14] | Lathi: | ok, i'm installing mythtv 0.19 from marillat |
| [20:59:41] | Lathi: | :-) |
| [21:00:05] | gardengnome: | Lathi: for sarge? ;) |
| [21:00:14] | Lathi: | without a video capture or tv out card, i can still just run mythtv in X, right? |
| [21:00:20] | Lathi: | gardengnome: yea |
| [21:00:36] | gardengnome: | Lathi: nice. i've gotta get myself those packages as well then ;) |
| [21:00:42] | Lathi: | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| [21:00:46] | gardengnome: | Lathi: yep, you can do that, it's just no fun ;) |
| [21:00:56] | ** gardengnome prefers deb-src ** | |
| [21:01:08] | Lathi: | well, it's good for testing before dumping cash on hardware |
| [21:01:15] | gardengnome: | right |
| [21:02:19] | Lathi: | so this server is an amd mp 1800 w/ a meager 256MB ram |
| [21:02:35] | gardengnome: | more ram might be better :) |
| [21:02:43] | ftp3: | kormoc/beirdo, how do I set "video settings" to use the internal player? I looked at the "tv settings" and I do not see a command |
| [21:02:56] | Beirdo: | set it to "Internal" |
| [21:03:14] | Lathi: | gardengnome: i'll add that in the "purchase order" if this test run works out ok ;-) |
| [21:03:15] | ftp3: | beirdo: so, at the "Default Player" line, just put "Internal" |
| [21:03:21] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:03:23] | ftp3: | thanks |
| [21:03:27] | Lathi: | how much will i hurt with only 256? |
| [21:04:42] | ftp3: | hey thanks! I actually like this internal player better anyway |
| [21:05:07] | gardengnome: | Lathi: well, if you go with a lightweight window manager, you should get acceptable performance, i suppose. but you won't be able to do that much with mythtv without a tv tuner |
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| [21:06:52] | Lathi: | i've already got a directory of video ripped with my mac |
| [21:07:39] | laga: | yeah, but mythtv is a PVR software, not only some kind of frontend for mplayer (which is what mythvideo does) |
| [21:08:09] | Anduin: | MythVideo can use the internal player as well. |
| [21:08:39] | Lathi: | i don't plan on actually hooking this up to my cable right now... just using it to serve up kids movies |
| [21:08:44] | laga: | that was not my point :) |
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| [21:22:39] | ftp3: | what about this, I have a digital cable box from comcast (not hdtv, just digital) and the mythtv box does not know how to change channels through the digital box.. is there any help with this? |
| [21:24:32] | Anduin: | ftp3 – irblaster or serial if you are lucky |
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| [21:26:25] | ftp3: | anduin.. ok, googling that ;-) |
| [21:26:55] | eleazar123: | anybody in here use nfs for sharing files over the network for myth to use? |
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| [21:27:16] | laga: | eleazar123: yep |
| [21:28:08] | eleazar123: | oh sweet, have you ever had a problem that the directories you mount the shares to end up empty? like when i do 'mount <hostname>:/<share>/ <mountpoint> it mounts it fine, but then after like 10 seconds the folder (mountpoint) is empty, it's driving me mad :( |
| [21:28:38] | kormoc: | eleazar123, does it unmount? |
| [21:28:44] | eleazar123: | i added it to rc-update and have it run on boot, but it still does the same thing, except when running it from boot, the folder is empty the whole time, it's like the files never get there |
| [21:28:53] | laga: | uh, no, never. i've had a few problems with "stale nfs handles", but that's different (and results in the error message) |
| [21:29:14] | eleazar123: | kormoc not that i know of, if i try to umount it, it says device is busy, if i try to mount it again, it says it's already mounted according to mtab |
| [21:29:23] | eleazar123: | laga, oh ok, thanks anyways :) |
| [21:31:17] | Lathi: | well, the install and setup seems to have worked. now to just get the hardware and get it working right :-) |
| [21:35:29] | stuarta: | !trout laga |
| [21:35:29] | ** MythLogBot slaps laga with a trout on behalf of stuarta... ** | |
| [21:35:38] | ftp3: | well, i just ordered an irblaster, hope that works ;-) |
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| [21:37:12] | Anduin: | ftp3 – I would have researched more, if the location is right and you have serial it is better (and the actual irblaster product isn't always right) |
| [21:37:41] | WAR_CH|LD: | I see to be getting a random error when a program starts to record. Once I receive this "DVB#0 Timeout Getting PMT" DVB#0 ERROR – Tuning for channel #1 failed. |
| [21:38:21] | WAR_CH|LD: | the nthe recording starts as normal |
| [21:38:35] | WAR_CH|LD: | but, for the length of the recording I get "DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second." |
| [21:39:03] | WAR_CH|LD: | and it just looks to be random shows, at random times. I can not put a pattern on it. |
| [21:39:37] | WAR_CH|LD: | I thought it may have been a singal strength thing, but we have had a digital tv antenna guy in and install a full on pro areial. so it ain't that. :( any ideas? |
| [21:46:51] | ftp3: | anyone know where i can get the win32codecs? Apparently http://www.debianguide.org/wiki/moin.cgi/W32Codecs is out of hard drive space.. |
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| [21:47:38] | dscoular: | WAR_CH|LD: What version of myth ? |
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| [21:48:39] | tyce: | question to the floor of HD users... I am thinking about getting off-air hd content thru my myth box, was researching the pcHDTV HD-3000 card. Anyone have any pros/cons that you'd like to share with me? |
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| [21:49:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | dscoular 0.18 still |
| [21:49:09] | WAR_CH|LD: | version upgrade fixes it? |
| [21:49:54] | dscoular: | Ah... not necessarily... 0.19 has problems with dvb-t... IMHO ... 0.19-fixes is in th process of sorting them. |
| [21:50:12] | dscoular: | If you had been running 0.19 I would have suggested 0.19-fixes |
| [21:50:26] | dscoular: | 0.18.1 was the most reliable for me. |
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| [21:51:24] | dscoular: | WAR_CH|LD: What sort of DVB card ? |
| [21:51:53] | Carstenp: | Hi! I am a MythTV Newbee i just installed the knoppmyth distribution |
| [21:52:11] | WAR_CH|LD: | um, there is a dvico and a avermedia |
| [21:52:20] | dscoular: | USB or PCI ? |
| [21:52:25] | WAR_CH|LD: | all pci |
| [21:52:49] | dscoular: | Hmm... then you should be good. Sorry... |
| [21:53:09] | Carstenp: | i would like to check if i can use mythtv now (ie, whether sound works) by playing an xvid(avi) Video from my network. but, how is that possible? |
| [21:54:06] | WAR_CH|LD: | avermedia av771, and the dvico something, I bough the cards ages ago.... |
| [21:54:18] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, it has happened on both of the cards. |
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| [21:54:39] | WAR_CH|LD: | and I can not seem to work out a pattern or anything. |
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| [21:56:40] | WAR_CH|LD: | Carstenp, use mplayer? |
| [21:56:52] | Hoxzer: | We need War_Ch|lD as a sex slave |
| [21:57:18] | WAR_CH|LD: | indeed we do |
| [21:58:06] | Carstenp: | WAR_CH|LD, err, is there a page with some explanation how to start mplayer out of the mythtv gui? |
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| [21:58:21] | r10: | hi |
| [21:59:04] | kormoc: | Carstenp, if you install mythvideo, you can then play videos via myth |
| [21:59:15] | kormoc: | Carstenp, but it's easier to just bonce on live tv and see if that works |
| [21:59:31] | WAR_CH|LD: | I thought you just wanted to check sound? |
| [21:59:53] | r10: | I have now install the news mythtv, and now when I list my videos when I get a blank space fore the movies there is a backup of a dvd, and it fails to run when I try to start it, what is the problem ? |
| [22:00:27] | Carstenp: | kormoc, is mythvideo already in the knoppmyth distribution? |
| [22:00:30] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, he does, but why wouldn't live tv work just as well? |
| [22:00:32] | kormoc: | Carstenp, donno |
| [22:00:33] | WAR_CH|LD: | actually to cehck sound, you could run up your distro's in house media player, they usually have a demo mp3 or someting. |
| [22:01:07] | kormoc: | WAR_CH|LD, he wanted to check to see if myth's sound was working, so I would assume the best way to check that would be inside of myth... |
| [22:01:31] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, right. |
| [22:02:25] | Carstenp: | ok i just alt |
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| [22:03:28] | Carstenp: | sorry, i just CTRL-alted to a shell logged in as root and started xine as well as mplayer with the avi file as parameter. both programs complain that they cant open the display |
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| [22:04:11] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, dont run from a shell in root |
| [22:04:58] | WAR_CH|LD: | use your desktop manager menu's. |
| [22:05:53] | Carstenp: | WAR_CH|LD, sorry to be so stupid, but i think i dont have a desktop manager, i just have the mythtv gui ( i am quite new with mythtv ) |
| [22:06:02] | WAR_CH|LD: | ah, right. |
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| [22:06:29] | WAR_CH|LD: | so does your live tv work in myth? |
| [22:09:34] | WAR_CH|LD: | or, maybe you have mpg123 |
| [22:10:32] | Carstenp: | WAR_CH|LD, I guess i just understood something very basic, lol |
| [22:11:06] | Carstenp: | i closed mythtv, and i found the window manager. i saw the WM for the first time |
| [22:12:14] | Carstenp: | i started xine, and it could play the avi file, with sound. the sound is coming from the wrong sound card ( the system has 2 soundcards ) but what the frag! it works ! |
| [22:12:31] | WAR_CH|LD: | alll that matters |
| [22:12:40] | WAR_CH|LD: | so we know your sound setup is good. :P |
| [22:14:22] | Carstenp: | okay, now i will turn of the system and try to connect it to my tv via s-video |
| [22:14:35] | WAR_CH|LD: | cools, good luck. :P |
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| [22:17:13] | r10: | I have now install the news mythtv, and now when I list my videos when I get a blank space fore the movies there is a backup of a dvd, and it fails to run when I try to start it, what is the problem ? |
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| [22:18:34] | Carstenp: | I see a bootscreen : welcome to knoppmyth ! |
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| [22:18:41] | pyrotech: | has anyone seen the "Error occured while displaying video" message pop up while trying to watch live tV? |
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| [22:18:56] | kormoc: | r10, you might want to try typing that again, slower and think about what you are trying to say |
| [22:19:20] | kormoc: | pyrotech, lots of people have, and they tended to fix the error and that message goes away |
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| [22:19:36] | pyrotech: | what is the solution to that problem? |
| [22:19:49] | kormoc: | pyrotech, to fix the error it's complaining about |
| [22:20:06] | pyrotech: | do you have anything productive to say? |
| [22:20:24] | kormoc: | pyrotech, not really, given you havn't said what the error actually is |
| [22:20:31] | pyrotech: | thats all the message says |
| [22:20:38] | kormoc: | pyrotech, did you check the log? |
| [22:20:45] | pyrotech: | yes theres nothing in it |
| [22:20:54] | kormoc: | pyrotech, what about the frontend output? |
| [22:21:08] | pyrotech: | I cant view it because the error makes X lockup |
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| [22:21:23] | kormoc: | pyrotech, mythfrontend > mythfrontend.log |
| [22:21:34] | kormoc: | pyrotech, it will put the output into the .log file |
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| [22:21:52] | r10: | I have installed mythtv 0.19, and now when I do a List view of my videos, I get a "blank space" when it should show a folder fore a dir when I have a backup of a dvd in, what is the problem ? |
| [22:22:52] | pyrotech: | just a min |
| [22:23:16] | kormoc: | r10, mythvideo doesn't handle directorys I beleive. |
| [22:23:35] | pyrotech: | 2006-03–20 16:21:55.765 prebuffering pause |
| [22:23:35] | pyrotech: | 2006-03–20 16:22:14.874 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [22:23:35] | pyrotech: | 2006-03–20 16:22:14.875 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [22:23:46] | r10: | kormoc: I can see all of the other movies I have en folders |
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| [22:23:59] | pyrotech: | 2006-03–20 16:22:14.875 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [22:23:59] | pyrotech: | 2006-03–20 16:22:14.875 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [22:23:59] | pyrotech: | 2006-03–20 16:22:14.875 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [22:24:12] | kormoc: | r10, then perhaps it's more an issue of the file format isn't understandable? |
| [22:24:32] | kormoc: | pyrotech, those errors would indicate that the backend crashed or there's a communication problem between the two |
| [22:24:48] | Carstenp: | WOW . Guys. I am speechless mythtv works REALLY great. Thank you for all the hard work on the project, i really appreciate it |
| [22:24:53] | r10: | kormoc: is is just a normal dvd, and I should see and play them in version 0.18 |
| [22:25:03] | pyrotech: | i will check that out |
| [22:25:52] | kormoc: | r10, donno then. |
| [22:27:06] | pyrotech: | wow that mythbackend lies, it says its running and it wasnt |
| [22:27:21] | pyrotech: | seemed to fix the issue when i killed all procs and restarted backend and mysql |
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| [22:27:52] | nuxil: | hello all |
| [22:29:16] | nuxil: | i have a issue.. when i want to view the movies i have on my hd. myth freezes.. well mplayer is starting up. but myth never shows the movie. i hear the sound tho.. |
| [22:29:25] | jams: | pyrotech- using mysql 5? |
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| [22:30:02] | jams: | r10 I would check permissions and parental level |
| [22:30:05] | pyrotech: | let me see |
| [22:30:24] | kormoc: | nuxil, you might want to try the internal player rather then mplayer for mythvideo. |
| [22:30:33] | kormoc: | nuxil, are you running a window manager? |
| [22:30:35] | nuxil: | how do i set that |
| [22:30:43] | nuxil: | kormoc, yes kde |
| [22:30:56] | nuxil: | de to be precsice |
| [22:31:02] | pyrotech: | jams: 4.1.14 |
| [22:31:03] | kormoc: | nuxil, in the mythvideo setup, set the player to internal rather then mplayer %blahbhal |
| [22:31:36] | pyrotech: | kormoc |
| [22:31:38] | nuxil: | ok i'll try that.. thxz so for |
| [22:31:43] | pyrotech: | seems to have fixed the problem |
| [22:32:09] | r10: | jams: they are okay |
| [22:33:55] | pyrotech: | any idea why mythbackend would state that its running when it actually isnt? |
| [22:34:09] | dtm: | pyrotech: coz the lockfile's still there probably |
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| [22:35:45] | kormoc: | pyrotech, /var/run/pid/ holds files that tend to tell init.d scripts that they're running or not, it likely crashed, causing the pid file to still be there when it wasn't running anymore, hence the claim it was |
| [22:36:11] | pyrotech: | I figured it was the init script, ill check out that dir |
| [22:41:32] | pyrotech: | is it normal for mythbackend to have about 10 procs running? |
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| [22:45:18] | kormoc: | pyrotech, usually not |
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| [22:56:50] | Carstenp: | is there a way to loose a bit of the black canvas that is on my tv screen? |
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| [22:59:45] | sphing: | Carstenp: let me know |
| [23:00:32] | Anduin: | Carstenp – as in border? |
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| [23:04:24] | Carstenp: | sphing, what do you need to know? |
| [23:04:33] | Carstenp: | Anduin, yeah a small black border |
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| [23:06:39] | Anduin: | Carstenp – Does the X background reach where you want? |
| [23:06:41] | sphing: | yea a black border |
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| [23:10:21] | Juski: | one word: overscan |
| [23:10:30] | Anduin: | The TVOverScan option may help (if you are using the binary nvidia driver with a card that supports it, it is a driver setting), if you google for mythtv black border |
| [23:11:07] | Carstenp: | i found the problem |
| [23:11:21] | Carstenp: | i have an overscan option in my nvidia settings. |
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| [23:11:39] | Carstenp: | i changed it to 15 now it looks "full" |
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| [23:16:06] | chavwatch: | ooo DVB radio now doesn't need a patch.. _yay_! (with SVN) |
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| [23:16:26] | Achew22: | doesn't dvb stand for digital video broadcast? |
| [23:16:34] | chavwatch: | yep |
| [23:16:40] | Achew22: | ironic... |
| [23:16:53] | chavwatch: | we get lots of radio stations too |
| [23:17:31] | Achew22: | is there a way to change the password on another system with a live cd? |
| [23:17:41] | chavwatch: | and UK radio is actually worth recording.. especially factual & comedy shows ;-) |
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| [23:18:06] | chavwatch: | Achew22: probably with knoppix.. but linux passwords are pretty tight |
| [23:18:17] | Carstenp: | i will go to sleep now, thanks again for the help i will bombard youo guys with new question tommorrow :) |
| [23:18:21] | Carstenp: | thanks again, bye |
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| [23:18:36] | Achew22: | I'm so angry — I FINALY got gentoo to boot and I apparently don't know the password |
| [23:18:50] | chavwatch: | there's a CD I downloaded a while ago called 'RIP' – recovery is possible – I think that does passwordy stuff |
| [23:18:53] | Achew22: | but the bootup wants to do something that requires su so I need the password to even boot so the single trick wont work |
| [23:19:12] | chavwatch: | Achew22: using a Gentoo livecd |
| [23:19:19] | Achew22: | I was |
| [23:19:53] | chavwatch: | chroot, then my first guess would be to passwd root while you're chmodded |
| [23:20:00] | chavwatch: | chmodded? chrooted |
| [23:20:06] | ste__: | can sudo not help? |
| [23:20:18] | chavwatch: | if sudo is installed, yes |
| [23:20:19] | Achew22: | can you chroot in and do that? |
| [23:20:24] | Achew22: | sudo isn't installed |
| [23:20:30] | Achew22: | yet... |
| [23:20:53] | ste__: | (..oh) |
| [23:20:55] | Achew22: | so boot the live cd and ssh in then i'm going to come back to this computer |
| [23:21:05] | chavwatch: | did you even change the password? |
| [23:21:14] | Achew22: | I swear I did |
| [23:21:18] | ste__: | anyway, I've accomplished a grand total of "nowt" tonight. so good night. |
| [23:21:21] | chavwatch: | the livecd generates a random root password |
| [23:21:26] | Achew22: | i know |
| [23:21:44] | Achew22: | I would swear I changed the password but I installed 3 systems last night and I dont know if I screwed up on this one |
| [23:21:48] | Achew22: | i'll be right back |
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| [23:25:43] | kormoc: | chavwatch, it generates a random root password for the live cd, not for the installed system |
| [23:25:51] | kormoc: | Achew22, you can try just a blank root password if you never changed it |
| [23:26:04] | Achew22: | I tried that though... no such luck |
| [23:26:25] | Achew22: | its okay that i'm doing this I will change the grub config while i'm in there so that I don't have to change it every time I boot which is anoying |
| [23:29:39] | Achew22: | okay, so I'm chrooted into the new system — will I just run passwd and change it? |
| [23:30:06] | chavwatch: | btw folks – seems minimyth has rolled out a version for 0.19 that isn't a beta at last: http://linpvr.org/dnload/releases/0.19/ |
| [23:30:23] | Achew22: | what is minimyth? |
| [23:30:45] | Achew22: | ohh wait nevermind |
| [23:30:51] | Achew22: | via board myth |
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| [23:33:31] | kormoc: | Achew22, yeah, when chroot just passwd and off you go |
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| [23:37:41] | Achew22: | kormoc have you ever heard of /dev/ROOT? |
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| [23:38:29] | kormoc: | Achew22, heard of, sure |
| [23:38:39] | Achew22: | it says something about fscking it |
| [23:38:49] | Achew22: | then it prompts for root password |
| [23:38:57] | Achew22: | what does it do? |
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| [23:39:01] | kormoc: | Achew22, it's in the gentoo's default /etc/fstab for you to replce it with /dev/hdxx where hdxx is the partition of the root |
| [23:39:18] | Achew22: | ohh so edit /etc//fstab? |
| [23:39:23] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [23:39:25] | Achew22: | oops /etc/fstab |
| [23:39:31] | kormoc: | and point it to the correct /dev/ entry |
| [23:39:32] | Achew22: | what should I make it to /dev/hda0 |
| [23:39:36] | kormoc: | you missed out on that step |
| [23:39:41] | Achew22: | apparently... |
| [23:39:44] | ** Achew22 == stupid ** | |
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| [23:40:04] | Achew22: | I had a concussion 2 days ago so there is a reason |
| [23:40:39] | ** Achew22 hit a tree ** | |
| [23:45:03] | chavwatch: | ouch |
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| [23:53:08] | Achew22: | chavwatch I did it back country skiing so its okay |
| [23:53:12] | Achew22: | I got it booted!!! |
| [23:53:36] | kormoc: | nah, tis okay :P |
| [23:53:41] | Achew22: | you sure — its free |
| [23:53:49] | Achew22: | call it payback for me being an idiot |
| [23:54:05] | kormoc: | I'll tell you what, you can hug MythLogBot as much as you want |
| [23:54:55] | Achew22: | okay.... |
| [23:55:09] | ** Achew22 hugs MythLogBot ** | |
| [23:55:29] | pilly: | has anyone in here tried to make their own ir reciever? |
| [23:55:41] | pilly: | usb or serial |
| [23:55:42] | chavwatch: | tried, and succeeded |
| [23:55:46] | chavwatch: | serial |
| [23:55:53] | chavwatch: | DIY USB is not easy |
| [23:56:09] | scopeuk: | composite clock nasty |
| [23:56:11] | Achew22: | I have a system with no gui — thats not good for watching tv |
| [23:56:13] | scopeuk: | any way im off night all |
| [23:56:22] | pilly: | yeah just lookink at that... have to build a prommer first |
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| [23:57:01] | pilly: | any issues with the serial? |
| [23:57:31] | Achew22: | kormoc do you know of any tutorials to get a system running then put mythtv or to just get it running, I think I can figure out mythtv |
| [23:57:48] | chavwatch: | pilly: no issues to speak of |
| [23:57:51] | kormoc: | Achew22, emerge mythtv, done |
| [23:57:54] | pilly: | and will it work with universal remotes? like say a logitech harmony? |
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| [23:58:00] | Achew22: | but I don't have X or any of those... |
| [23:58:09] | chavwatch: | pilly: it'll work with just about _any_ IR device |
| [23:58:21] | pilly: | I'd like to build one but I want to get the reasearch out of the way.... |
| [23:58:23] | chavwatch: | mine works with a oneforall remote |
| [23:58:29] | pilly: | sweet! |
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| [23:58:45] | chavwatch: | you can learn any protocol apart from IrDA |
| [23:59:11] | kormoc: | Achew22, it will pull them in |
| [23:59:19] | chavwatch: | I like the idea of the harmony remotes but find thm to be fugly IMHO |
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