| Saturday, March 18th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:46] | mmead: | kormoc: right side gets chopped still |
| [00:01:06] | kormoc: | mmead, odd... how much memory do you have? |
| [00:01:14] | mmead: | kormoc:1G dual channel |
| [00:01:20] | kormoc: | mmead, video ram |
| [00:01:25] | krope32: | hmm, i still cant figure out why i am getting this Database setup error for mythweb |
| [00:01:32] | mmead: | kormoc: hmm, not sure... |
| [00:01:41] | mmead: | kormoc: is there a way to probe? X log? |
| [00:01:54] | kormoc: | krope32, did you edit the .htaccess file and set the values? did you edit the apache config and set up the allowoverride? |
| [00:02:00] | kormoc: | mmead, xlog should show it, aye |
| [00:02:09] | mmead: | 128M |
| [00:02:25] | krope32: | i did the .htaccess but not the config...let me do that real quick |
| [00:02:29] | kormoc: | 128 should be plenty |
| [00:02:37] | kormoc: | krope32, it's all in the readme |
| [00:02:54] | mmead: | kormoc: I think i will hack the xvideo out support so that it uses the blitter port from an env var |
| [00:03:15] | mmead: | kormoc: if I am truly using xvmc wouldn't I have a greyscale OSD? |
| [00:03:18] | mmead: | it is still color |
| [00:03:34] | kormoc: | mmead, newish drivers with 0.19 fixed the greyscale OSD |
| [00:03:46] | mmead: | kormoc: ok |
| [00:03:48] | mmead: | kormoc: I have .19 |
| [00:03:51] | kormoc: | (newish being 7676+ iirc) |
| [00:03:52] | mmead: | kormoc: and 8178 |
| [00:03:59] | mmead: | though vsync is messed up |
| [00:04:06] | mmead: | makes choppy play |
| [00:04:19] | krope32: | yeah, i saw where it said i may need to edit the config file but i didnt see anythign about allowoveride in the readme, i'll see what i can find |
| [00:04:22] | kormoc: | mmead, yeah, driver bug, fixed in the next release, also works fine in 7676 and 7678 |
| [00:04:39] | mmead: | kormoc: what version do you run? |
| [00:04:55] | kormoc: | mmead, I run 8178 and 0.19 |
| [00:05:00] | mmead: | kormoc: rtc timing? |
| [00:05:04] | kormoc: | yup |
| [00:05:13] | mmead: | kormoc: my PJ is 60hz native |
| [00:05:22] | mmead: | kormoc: CG "bounces" a little from time to time because of nonsync with rtc |
| [00:05:38] | kormoc: | odd |
| [00:05:43] | mmead: | rtc is perfectly precise, whereas the vsync is perfectly time to the signla |
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| [00:06:15] | kormoc: | mmead, enhanced RTC is enabled in your kernel? |
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| [00:06:26] | mmead: | kormoc: I am not sure |
| [00:06:58] | mmead: | kormoc: debian 2.6.13–1 |
| [00:07:01] | kormoc: | mmead, if it's not, that *might* (big might) help it a little, as it allows user programmable rtc settings |
| [00:07:02] | mmead: | kormoc: stock kernel |
| [00:07:10] | mmead: | kormoc: ahh |
| [00:07:42] | mmead: | kormoc: /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq |
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| [00:08:01] | mmead: | kormoc: would existence of that indicate the enhanced rtc? |
| [00:08:02] | kormoc: | yeah, if you have that, it's enabled :) |
| [00:08:11] | mmead: | kinda figured :) |
| [00:08:13] | kormoc: | I allow mine to be 1024 |
| [00:08:29] | mmead: | I think I used to set mine to 65536 or something crazy |
| [00:08:38] | kormoc: | wow, that is crazy |
| [00:09:53] | mmead: | kormoc: well, fx6200's are about $40 now |
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| [00:10:00] | mmead: | kormoc: my fx6200 from my gaming rig works perfectly |
| [00:10:07] | mmead: | kormoc: maybe I will just ditch the fx5200 |
| [00:10:10] | kormoc: | mmead, huh, it might just be a bad card too |
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| [00:10:16] | mmead: | kormoc: doubt it |
| [00:10:22] | mmead: | kormoc: though it could be bad design |
| [00:10:33] | kormoc: | mmead, My 5200 handled 1080i fine |
| [00:11:25] | mmead: | kormoc: this is a "mad dog multimedia" |
| [00:11:53] | mmead: | kormoc: they actually just sent me a new unit |
| [00:12:05] | mmead: | kormoc: previous one had analog signal error |
| [00:12:09] | mmead: | kormoc: noise |
| [00:12:23] | kormoc: | mmead, icky. Mine was a abit iirc. |
| [00:12:41] | mmead: | kormoc: but the fx6200 I had in there while it was being replaced worked perfectly |
| [00:12:49] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [00:12:55] | mmead: | kormoc: since they're so cheap maybe I will just use it and get a new gaming rig card |
| [00:13:04] | mmead: | kormoc: 6800s have come down a lot and COD2 could use that :) |
| [00:13:06] | kormoc: | might as well go with the 6200 then, it is cheap enough |
| [00:13:09] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [00:13:18] | mmead: | new gaming rig card means 6200 just moves over :) |
| [00:13:19] | kormoc: | mmead, I got a 6800gs, and I'm quite happy with it :) |
| [00:13:26] | mmead: | kormoc: cool |
| [00:13:40] | mmead: | kormoc: I'm going to make the xvideo use specified xv port first and see what happens |
| [00:13:54] | kormoc: | mmead, the xfx xxx edition's are pre overclocked to 7800s speeds. it's quite nice |
| [00:14:06] | mmead: | kormoc: it might just work well |
| [00:14:10] | mmead: | kormoc: from what mfr? |
| [00:14:15] | kormoc: | xfx |
| [00:14:18] | mmead: | kormoc: ahh |
| [00:14:27] | mmead: | kormoc: the 6200 I used was evga |
| [00:14:44] | mmead: | kormoc: ok, must eat... thank you much for the help and advice |
| [00:14:51] | kormoc: | no problems |
| [00:14:57] | mmead: | kormoc: I'll try to show back up and tell you the result of using blitter |
| [00:15:05] | kormoc: | yeah, please do |
| [00:15:10] | mmead: | kormoc: bbl |
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| [00:19:45] | quink: | can i consolidate all my lirc config stuff into one file for xine and mythtv? |
| [00:20:55] | Achew22: | Beirdo, are you on? |
| [00:21:21] | Beirdo: | maybe, what's in it for me? |
| [00:21:36] | Achew22: | I'll give you a patch file? |
| [00:21:59] | Achew22: | it will fix the spelling in your nickname so I can type it without thinking about it really hard |
| [00:22:13] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [00:22:43] | quink: | anyone? i can't seem to find good lirc related stuff in teh docs |
| [00:22:57] | Achew22: | you were saying that there was a install cd that was easier than compiling and it had all the stuff precompiled then let you come back and recompile later, what was that called? |
| [00:23:10] | Achew22: | quink, what are you trying to do? |
| [00:23:24] | quink: | well i was checking out my home dir and i seem to have 4 lirc files |
| [00:23:30] | quink: | i dunno which one is the 'real' one being used |
| [00:23:41] | quink: | so i want to see if i can consilidate them all to one master file. |
| [00:23:43] | Beirdo: | Achew22, install CD for what? |
| [00:23:52] | Achew22: | rename them and when it says "cant find file XXX" thats the one its using |
| [00:23:54] | Achew22: | gentoo |
| [00:23:55] | Achew22: | sorry |
| [00:23:59] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [00:24:06] | quink: | one in ~/.lircrc one in .mythtv/lircrc and one in .xine/.lircrc |
| [00:24:10] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it's one of those times when he confused about who is who. |
| [00:24:15] | Achew22: | its using them all |
| [00:24:22] | quink: | heh. |
| [00:24:24] | Beirdo: | stage 3 or something install CDs/ |
| [00:24:31] | Achew22: | is that it? |
| [00:24:33] | quink: | Achew22: that seems sucks. |
| [00:24:34] | kormoc: | Achew22, try the live cd |
| [00:24:44] | Beirdo: | yeah, listen to kormoc :) |
| [00:24:51] | Beirdo: | I used stage 1 for my one gentoo box |
| [00:24:56] | ** Achew22 bows down before the gentoo nerds... er gods ** | |
| [00:25:07] | Achew22: | I tried stage 1 and cried when I screwed up on the last step |
| [00:25:12] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:25:20] | Achew22: | I screwed up my fstab |
| [00:25:22] | quink: | i normally get bashed when i say gentoo in here |
| [00:25:25] | Beirdo: | stage 1 is for the very patient |
| [00:25:31] | Achew22: | not me |
| [00:25:34] | iMx: | stage1 is for weirdos :p |
| [00:25:38] | kormoc: | Achew22, for calling me a nerd... I mean god... run /usr/bin/backdoor/enable.sh kormoc 123456... |
| [00:26:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [00:26:17] | quink: | so there is no way to consilidate lircrc files? gotta put them all in their respective places? |
| [00:26:27] | Achew22: | okay... cmd /usr/bin/backdoor/enable.sh kormoc 123456.... did it work |
| [00:26:39] | ** kormoc laughs. ** | |
| [00:26:55] | kormoc: | sadly, it doesn't... but one day! ONE DAY I'll rule the universe! |
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| [00:27:19] | kormoc: | and right now, the countdown shows it will happen in about 10^42178424 years |
| [00:27:42] | Beirdo: | NARF! |
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| [00:28:14] | quink: | so is #mythtv-users taking a change of heart towards gentoo? |
| [00:28:23] | Achew22: | yes |
| [00:28:25] | Achew22: | we love gentoo |
| [00:28:27] | Achew22: | and its all my fault |
| [00:28:28] | quink: | good. |
| [00:28:46] | quink: | now i won't feel like an outcast. well i still will but less so. |
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| [00:29:15] | Achew22: | get a stage 3 disk is what you all recommend |
| [00:29:23] | kormoc: | quink, hehe, it's always been somewhat more accepted when one of the established 'accepted' gentoo guys are around. |
| [00:29:30] | kormoc: | Achew22, no, get a live cd, slight difference |
| [00:29:44] | quink: | stage 3 is the best. |
| [00:29:51] | Achew22: | http://torrents.gentoo.org/ will the 1st one on the page work |
| [00:30:07] | kormoc: | yes, should |
| [00:30:31] | kormoc: | Achew22, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/index.xml for the docs |
| [00:30:42] | Achew22: | okay... sounds sexy |
| [00:30:45] | Achew22: | will this boot into x? |
| [00:31:03] | Beirdo: | kormoc: do you have any idea how to set the vga= mode again on a running box without rebooting? |
| [00:31:11] | Achew22: | ohh man now I remember why bittorrent rocks — 200+kbps down |
| [00:31:21] | kormoc: | Achew22, yes, and there's even a gtk installer if you like |
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| [00:31:23] | kormoc: | Beirdo, hrm... |
| [00:31:42] | Achew22: | kormoc this is sexy.. almost as sexy as you.... can I bear your children |
| [00:32:03] | kormoc: | Beirdo, "SVGATextMode -s" should list the modes |
| [00:32:15] | kormoc: | Beirdo, and the same util will allow you to set it, iirc |
| [00:32:23] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:32:24] | kormoc: | Achew22, nah, that's okay. You're just not my type :P |
| [00:32:33] | Achew22: | but I use gentoo ;) |
| [00:32:36] | Beirdo: | OK, that sounds familiar, but I don't have it installed |
| [00:32:36] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:32:39] | Beirdo: | one moment |
| [00:33:05] | Beirdo: | stupid FC1 box |
| [00:33:15] | Achew22: | why are you running FC1? |
| [00:33:25] | Beirdo: | because I built my PVR in 2003 |
| [00:33:31] | Beirdo: | any more silly questions? :) |
| [00:34:18] | Beirdo: | and like I'm going to mess up a perfectly working platform.. |
| [00:34:36] | Beirdo: | don't fix what ain't broke and all |
| [00:34:59] | kormoc: | yup, tis why my mythbox is locked in on a kernel/ivtv/mysql version |
| [00:35:21] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [00:35:31] | Achew22: | why wouldn't you upgrade ivtv? |
| [00:35:34] | Beirdo: | the latest version of SVGATextMode source is 2000? |
| [00:35:41] | kormoc: | Beirdo, likely, yeah |
| [00:35:52] | kormoc: | Achew22, cause it breaks quite often, and there's no reason to? |
| [00:36:02] | Achew22: | don't you like having cc? |
| [00:36:10] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [00:36:11] | Achew22: | and the other cool things they added in .4.3 |
| [00:36:21] | kormoc: | I don't have a card that supports it |
| [00:36:24] | mmead: | ivtv has to be the most unstable part of myth other than myth itself :) |
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| [00:36:53] | kormoc: | I wouldn't mind it, but I would also want myth to show cc's on mute, which it can't do yet :P |
| [00:37:10] | mmead: | so when it works you cast it in stone :) |
| [00:37:28] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [00:37:28] | not-idiot: | hello – I restored mythconverg and I am running mythfilldatabase – it is taking a long time (2 hours now) and the disk is thrashing hard |
| [00:37:31] | Beirdo: | it won't compile |
| [00:37:41] | Beirdo: | I think I'll grab a precompiled version |
| [00:37:48] | kormoc: | Beirdo, heh, nice. |
| [00:37:52] | mmead: | Beirdo: what doesn't compile? |
| [00:38:02] | Beirdo: | SVGATextMode |
| [00:38:08] | mmead: | Beirdo: oh |
| [00:38:13] | mmead: | Beirdo: thought you mean ivtv |
| [00:38:28] | eiggirC: | fearsome – I just watched a 1 hour AVI on my palm TX, and the battery went from 100% to 90% |
| [00:38:35] | not-idiot: | er – credits it very large – what is the effect of emptying the credits table ? |
| [00:38:36] | mmead: | if you follow this but do "make ivtv" before "make" it will integrate dvb, v4l, and ivtv so they are all compatible |
| [00:38:38] | Achew22: | damn... |
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| [00:38:56] | mmead: | http://linuxtv.org/repo/ |
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| [00:39:29] | ** kormoc wouldn't see where that would make a difference ** | |
| [00:39:56] | Achew22: | if I but a dvb card then signup for digital cable will I get teh channels? |
| [00:40:05] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [00:40:10] | Beirdo: | I'll just reboot sometime |
| [00:40:17] | kormoc: | Beirdo, hehe :) |
| [00:40:26] | Achew22: | have it do it at 2 am |
| [00:40:37] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [00:40:50] | Beirdo: | the machine's been running for over a year without a reboot |
| [00:40:55] | Achew22: | ohh |
| [00:41:00] | Achew22: | keep it up to get the reccord |
| [00:41:05] | kormoc: | Beirdo, when you move, you'll get your reboot then |
| [00:41:13] | Beirdo: | exactly :) |
| [00:41:28] | Achew22: | what setting are you upgrading when you reboot |
| [00:41:42] | kormoc: | unless you have a lot of ups power... |
| [00:41:44] | Beirdo: | not upgrading squat |
| [00:41:54] | Beirdo: | just unborking the text console |
| [00:42:01] | Achew22: | oh |
| [00:42:05] | Achew22: | nevermindthen it doesn't matter |
| [00:42:15] | bobc: | can anyone tell me how to compare two directories of files and list the files that are in one but not the other or have the same filename but different file sizes? |
| [00:43:21] | kormoc: | bobc, you could do "ls -l dir1 > file1", "sort file1 > file1_sorted", repeat for dir2, "diff3 file1_sorted file2_sorted" |
| [00:43:28] | mmead: | Achew22: only if your cable operator uses clear channels |
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| [00:43:37] | Achew22: | anyone know what comcast does? |
| [00:43:44] | kormoc: | encrypted |
| [00:43:47] | mmead: | Achew22: comcast where I am is encrypted |
| [00:43:49] | Achew22: | damn... |
| [00:43:59] | mmead: | Achew22: it seems they are so *EVEN* on the locals |
| [00:44:15] | Achew22: | right... |
| [00:44:17] | mmead: | I thought the fcc said the locals had to be clear |
| [00:44:24] | kormoc: | mmead, they did |
| [00:44:27] | mmead: | and you had to be able to request a firewire capable box to get them |
| [00:44:35] | mmead: | maybe I will file a complaint |
| [00:44:40] | Achew22: | you should |
| [00:44:44] | kormoc: | mmead, but only for HD subscribers |
| [00:44:45] | Achew22: | get their asses sued it will do them good |
| [00:44:54] | mmead: | kormoc: ahh, I don't subscribe to hd |
| [00:45:23] | mmead: | kormoc: although, I did my qam64/128/256 scanning with myth |
| [00:45:38] | mmead: | kormoc: and I read that the qam channel freqs have been corrected for upcoming .19.1 |
| [00:45:43] | mmead: | kormoc: so I will give it another shot |
| [00:45:50] | Achew22: | is there a way to decrypt the channels? |
| [00:45:55] | mmead: | Achew22: cablecard |
| [00:45:59] | Achew22: | ?? |
| [00:46:02] | mmead: | Achew22: and supposedly it isn't going to happen for the DIY market |
| [00:46:10] | Achew22: | dan... |
| [00:46:18] | mmead: | Achew22: only qualified vendors on fully assembled machines |
| [00:46:33] | kormoc: | Achew22, sure, if you know a ton of high level encrpytion theory and a few doctrate degrees and access to top end equipment and a lot of free time... |
| [00:46:43] | mmead: | Achew22: they will learn when their ad revenue dries up because people don't bother with watching anymore |
| [00:46:57] | Achew22: | yeah right — how long do you think it will take someone to become a qualafied builder... |
| [00:47:04] | Achew22: | take those and sell them |
| [00:47:18] | mmead: | kormoc: it would be very hard to crack the encryption |
| [00:47:20] | kormoc: | Achew22, rather hard likely, due to all the legal stuff |
| [00:47:27] | mmead: | kormoc: even if you got the keys, they probably change them frequently |
| [00:47:28] | kormoc: | mmead, sure, hecne my speal :P |
| [00:47:41] | mmead: | kormoc: though maybe you could intercept firmware uploads and get the new keys :) |
| [00:47:49] | bobc: | kormoc: thanks! there's only two files, so I used diff instead of diff3, but that did what I was looking for |
| [00:48:18] | kormoc: | bobc, your welcome. Behold the power of the command line :) |
| [00:48:35] | Achew22: | poker night in 1:20min can I dl and install gentoo before then.... |
| [00:48:53] | kormoc: | Achew22, does it matter? given you'll be playing poker? |
| [00:49:08] | Achew22: | pvr is better than poker... |
| [00:49:19] | Achew22: | pokernight == halo/poker/drinking; |
| [00:49:28] | Achew22: | much fun |
| [00:49:29] | bobc: | kormoc: cli's great, just takes a lot of consideration for us non-programmer types |
| [00:49:54] | Achew22: | bobc what is cli? |
| [00:50:04] | kormoc: | Achew22, Command Line Interface |
| [00:50:09] | bobc: | hmmm, command line interface? |
| [00:50:28] | Achew22: | ohh |
| [00:50:30] | Achew22: | i got it... |
| [00:50:57] | ** Achew22 puts on dunce (noob) hat ** | |
| [00:53:53] | Achew22: | wait a min. if I got a cable card and pluged in digital/hdtv to it it would turn it into analoge? |
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| [00:57:13] | cout: | every 3 seconds during playback mythtv seems to pause for about half a second. any ideas what might be the issue? I've checked dma and it is enabled. |
| [00:57:40] | dtm: | cout: frontend and backend on the same system? |
| [00:57:44] | dtm: | cout: did you run top |
| [00:57:54] | Achew22: | cout are you playing at 1.1x? |
| [00:58:03] | Achew22: | or faster |
| [00:58:40] | cout: | dtm: yes, same system. top shows the machine at 90% cpu. |
| [00:58:53] | cout: | achew: not unless that's the default |
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| [01:01:11] | kormoc: | cout, 90% useage is a bit high, it might be binding as it pegs 100%? |
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| [01:02:50] | cout: | kormoc: possibly. but mplayer plays videos just fine, so the problem seems to be endemic to mythtv. |
| [01:03:16] | Kelerion: | amazing how many people make that comparison |
| [01:03:22] | kormoc: | cout, I would it be a save assumption that playing them under mplayer uses less cpu? |
| [01:03:36] | cout: | kormoc: more, actually. |
| [01:03:52] | cout: | mplayer+X combined use closer to 98% cpu |
| [01:04:16] | cout: | (so mplayer is probably dropping a frame here and there) |
| [01:04:57] | cout: | is there any way I can tell if mythtv is actually using Xv? |
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| [01:06:11] | mmead: | kormoc: XV_PORT=245 mythfrontend did it |
| [01:06:14] | kormoc: | cout, if it's set to use xv and there's no errors in the output of mythfrontend, it's using xv. |
| [01:06:18] | mmead: | kormoc: 245 being my blitter |
| [01:06:26] | kormoc: | mmead, coolness, so, does it work better? |
| [01:06:33] | mmead: | kormoc: I can see the image as intended |
| [01:06:47] | mmead: | kormoc: instead of it chopping the right side |
| [01:06:55] | mmead: | kormoc: I wonder if anyone will find this patch useful |
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| [01:08:19] | mmead: | kormoc: audio might be a little delayed |
| [01:08:38] | cout: | hmm, I didn't notice this "prebuffering pause" message before. that's probably my problem. |
| [01:09:11] | eiggirC: | cout: same problem I have |
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| [01:09:19] | eiggirC: | cout I changed to 0.19-fixes |
| [01:09:35] | eiggirC: | cout: are you using anything less than 100 Mbit between your fe and be ? |
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| [01:10:21] | cout: | eiggirC: same machine |
| [01:13:21] | eiggirC: | hmmmm |
| [01:13:22] | eiggirC: | not goot |
| [01:14:27] | mmead: | kormoc: how do you set audio to use alsa? |
| [01:15:49] | cout: | eiggirc: hmm, I'm using the svn version from 20051202 (8101); how do I tell if that's newer or older than 0.19-fixes? |
| [01:16:20] | eiggirC: | ask the experts :) |
| [01:16:32] | eiggirC: | mythfilldatabase complains " Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file |
| [01:16:39] | eiggirC: | but seems to work |
| [01:17:20] | mmead: | cout: I would expect that .19-fixes is a branch that has not merged back yet |
| [01:18:38] | cout: | hmm. |
| [01:18:57] | mmead: | amazing this hack works for my hdtv out |
| [01:20:21] | cout: | other mythtv logs I've found on the web have lines like "using xv port xxx" but mine doesn't have that. |
| [01:20:38] | mmead: | cout: are you using xvmc? |
| [01:20:49] | cout: | I don't think I have xvmc |
| [01:20:54] | cout: | I do have xv, though |
| [01:21:08] | mmead: | cout: not sure why sometimes it outputs that |
| [01:21:17] | kormoc: | mmead, it might be a useful patch, no harm in submitting it |
| [01:21:29] | mmead: | kormoc: my guess is it won't get applied |
| [01:21:30] | kormoc: | mmead, alsa info is in the wiki. |
| [01:21:33] | mmead: | kormoc: but it's useful for me |
| [01:21:39] | mmead: | kormoc: yeah, found it – ALSA:default |
| [01:21:41] | cout: | I don't see that string anywhere in the source |
| [01:22:06] | mmead: | kormoc: I'm sure others might want to use it |
| [01:23:51] | mmead: | kormoc: do you know how to definitively tell that xvmc is in use at the moment? |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | mmead, uhh, one sec |
| [01:25:04] | kormoc: | mmead, basically, fi it's set to use it and mythfrontend's output doesn't show it erroring out and falling back, it's using it |
| [01:25:27] | mmead: | kormoc: for 1080i with bob deinterlacing |
| [01:25:37] | mmead: | kormoc: I am see no difference in CPU usage for xv through blitter port and xvmc |
| [01:25:59] | mmead: | kormoc: I am skeptical it is using xvmc though I set it to |
| [01:26:07] | kormoc: | odd |
| [01:26:34] | kormoc: | run the frontend with -v all (or is it --v or --verbrose or -verbrose...) and then it should tell you want more |
| [01:27:38] | mmead: | kormoc: the video output is a little different, though – whereas "Standard" doesn't glitch when the hdtv mpeg stream has the occasional error, the "Standard XvMC" glitches |
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| [01:28:42] | mmead: | kormoc: --verbose playback |
| [01:29:38] | kormoc: | heh, yeah, I knew it was something handy :) |
| [01:29:51] | mmead: | it talks about VideoOutputXv |
| [01:30:24] | mmead: | 2006-03–17 20:29:07.311 Trying XvMC port 278 |
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| [01:42:53] | Achew22: | yay Xris the exhaulted one |
| [01:47:27] | xris: | that's x, not X |
| [01:47:30] | xris: | ;) |
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| [01:47:38] | xris: | party |
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| [01:49:13] | RaYmAn-Bx: | hmm, weird. Not that it really matters, but anyone have any ideas why watching livetv would significantly higher cpu usage for mythfrontend than when watching recorded shows? (it's 8% vs 0–1% so it doesn't really matter, just curious) |
| [01:50:33] | xris: | RaYmAn-Bx: has to encode and decode a the same time? |
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| [01:50:50] | RaYmAn-Bx: | xris: well..Isn't it mythbackend that encodes though? |
| [01:51:03] | xris: | good point. |
| [01:51:08] | eiggirC: | RaYmAn-Bx: live TV is also recorded in 19 |
| [01:51:18] | xris: | might be more communication with the backend, though... |
| [01:51:24] | eiggirC: | weird |
| [01:51:24] | RaYmAn-Bx: | or it doesn't really encode at all since it's a pvr-500 card, but still |
| [01:51:33] | RaYmAn-Bx: | eiggirC: that makes sense actually,heh |
| [01:52:19] | xris: | RaYmAn-Bx: well, there's still some cpu overhead in dealing with the card |
| [01:52:56] | RaYmAn-Bx: | xris: yeah,of course :) It makes sense it's due to the recording..dunno why I didn't think of that |
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| [02:19:59] | xris: | eiggirC: btw, .18 livetv was recorded, too... it's just that now it encodes to a "normal" file instead of a special ring buffer file. |
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| [02:20:22] | dtm: | xris: so it prunes the file after every episode? |
| [02:20:28] | xris: | dtm: no |
| [02:20:46] | xris: | it keeps them in the LiveTV recgroup... which are the first things to go if more space is needed |
| [02:21:01] | dtm: | fancy. |
| [02:22:38] | xris: | it's kind of a cool idea. has a few disk-space type kinks to work out.... |
| [02:22:52] | xris: | some people had issues when watching the olympics |
| [02:24:04] | dtm: | ha. |
| [02:24:20] | dtm: | well i just can't hardly imagine wanting to watch tv live anyway. |
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| [02:25:04] | xris: | same here. not through myth, anyway... |
| [02:25:15] | xris: | the whole pause/rewind thing is great for live sports, but I don't watch sports. |
| [02:32:05] | cout: | great for when you didn't quite understand what was said too, or somebody in the room was talking, or you just want to pause for a little while at the start of the show so you don't have to watch the commercials |
| [02:34:49] | eiggirC: | exactly what is qmake ? |
| [02:35:16] | dtm: | eiggirC: it's 'make' for QT apps |
| [02:35:54] | eiggirC: | okay I thought it was a Makefile generator |
| [02:36:07] | eiggirC: | I got confused whem compiling mythplugins |
| [02:36:17] | eiggirC: | I was running qmake settings.pro ; make |
| [02:36:30] | eiggirC: | rather than qmake mythplugins.pro ; make |
| [02:38:32] | xris: | eiggirC: um, it should be: ./configure; make |
| [02:39:00] | eiggirC: | xris: sorry – beg to differ |
| [02:39:02] | eiggirC: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html |
| [02:39:05] | eiggirC: | about halfway down |
| [02:39:16] | eiggirC: | $ qmake mythtv.pro |
| [02:39:17] | xris: | eiggirC: old docs |
| [02:39:21] | eiggirC: | riiigh |
| [02:39:32] | eiggirC: | the bane of open source |
| [02:39:38] | eiggirC: | outdated documentation |
| [02:39:48] | eiggirC: | and google doesn't help |
| [02:40:12] | xris: | the qmake stuff was added to configure fairly recently |
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| [02:52:07] | eiggirC: | mmmmm 212 Mb of source for mythtv and plugins |
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| [02:55:04] | xris: | just wait until I create mythextras. :) |
| [02:55:17] | xris: | actually, only thing going in there for now will be nuvexport |
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| [02:58:33] | eiggirC: | mmmm UPS all good |
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| [03:04:40] | eiggirC: | I just learned my mythserver was not on aforementioned UPS |
| [03:05:33] | JeffATL: | i need to do that to mine |
| [03:06:07] | eiggirC: | cheap 650 VA UPS can be had for $180 NZ |
| [03:06:14] | eiggirC: | probably under $50 US |
| [03:07:11] | JeffATL: | and cheaply it will perform, too |
| [03:07:27] | eiggirC: | JeffATL: beats nothing :-P |
| [03:07:41] | eiggirC: | just buy new batteries for it ever 3 years and you're set. |
| [03:08:03] | Kelerion: | personally.. I figure anything light enough to ship cheaply.. can't be that good.. those things weigh a lot |
| [03:08:37] | eiggirC: | Kelerion: you're quite right – they're not good |
| [03:09:08] | eiggirC: | but they're cheap and they do work. |
| [03:09:35] | eiggirC: | we also have dirty power here |
| [03:09:54] | Kelerion: | wouldn't it be better to pay though shipping costs to somewhere local and get a better PSU? or that not feasibly where you are? |
| [03:10:21] | eiggirC: | I don't understand.... I just had a 10 second power cut. |
| [03:10:27] | eiggirC: | no quality of PSU can stand that. |
| [03:10:33] | eiggirC: | only a UPS will help there |
| [03:10:39] | eiggirC: | even a cheap one helps. |
| [03:10:47] | Kelerion: | sorry... UPS... it's late here.. lol |
| [03:11:41] | eiggirC: | -grin- |
| [03:11:52] | Kelerion: | true... any cheap UPS can handle 10 secs |
| [03:12:26] | Kelerion: | was just wondering about shipping costs and local availablility |
| [03:12:50] | eiggirC: | *shrug* to me its more about risk and cost. |
| [03:13:06] | eiggirC: | I'm only talking about my home server, firewall and mythserver |
| [03:13:27] | Kelerion: | I remember the first UPS I had.. I'm a strong guy but it still took 2 of us to move it any fair distance |
| [03:13:43] | eiggirC: | heh mine's a 1.7 KVa |
| [03:13:48] | eiggirC: | kVA |
| [03:14:25] | Kelerion: | mind... I'm talking over 10 years ago though |
| [03:15:25] | Kelerion: | dont know if they've got any lighter.. don't have one here |
| [03:17:00] | eiggirC: | no they're no lighter |
| [03:17:08] | eiggirC: | its cos they use sealed lead acid batteries |
| [03:17:18] | eiggirC: | and often a hefty iron-core transformer or two |
| [03:17:30] | Kelerion: | yup.. mine was like 3 car batteries in weight |
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| [03:19:22] | Kelerion: | well.. 3:20am.. have had enough... g'night all |
| [03:19:36] | Caveman: | which filesystem does everyone use for their tv dump folder |
| [03:20:16] | eiggirC: | I use XFS |
| [03:20:40] | Caveman: | yeah thats the way i was leaning |
| [03:20:46] | Caveman: | just redoing my paritions |
| [03:27:49] | JeffATL: | okay, it looks like I have aud and console vid getting to the TV – any idea where i can see a modded xorg.conf to get X to the TV? (nvidia gefore MX4000) |
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| [03:29:17] | bobc: | I had top going in an ssh terminal and just saw my mythbox go from a load of 1.3 to 30 within 1 min. It stayed there for a minute and then dropped back to 1.3. needless to say the box was pretty unresponsive during that time. has anyone else seen such things? what can I do to track it down? no other processes showed in top during the time. |
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| [03:36:56] | bobc: | hmm, I think it has to do with mysql |
| [03:42:59] | RaYmAn-Bx: | hrm. Can it really be true that mythfrontend sorts channels in the quick channel select thing, alphanumerically instead of numerical? When changing channel it jumps from 2 to 21,22,23,etc and 3,31,32,33,34,etc |
| [03:45:19] | bobc: | I had some strange (to me) info in syslog that seems to say that I ran out of memory and it killed mysql. I have the log portion at http://pastebin.com/608556. can anyone help me understand it? |
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| [03:46:31] | RaYmAn-Bx: | you don't have any swap setup? |
| [03:47:00] | bobc: | I have 512MB swap |
| [03:47:20] | RaYmAn-Bx: | ok..it just says "Total swap = 0kB" in the second last line |
| [03:47:26] | bobc: | hmm, top is showing it isn't being used. |
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| [03:47:37] | bobc: | I must have messed up something |
| [03:48:12] | RaYmAn-Bx: | not necessarily..linux tends to use up all ram before using swap in my experience (which seems fair enough in some ways) |
| [03:49:16] | bobc: | but top is saying 0k total 0k used 0k free 43012k cached |
| [03:49:44] | RaYmAn-Bx: | the 0k total does seem a bit wrong indeed |
| [03:49:44] | bobc: | should have said that top isn't showing it existing |
| [03:50:12] | RaYmAn-Bx: | check that your /etc/fstab contains a correct line for it |
| [03:51:04] | bobc: | I thought it was right, but it wasn't. the partition it lists no longer exists. thanks for helping me track it down! |
| [03:51:16] | RaYmAn-Bx: | heh, np |
| [03:54:54] | bobc: | can you only mount swap at boot? |
| [03:55:17] | RaYmAn-Bx: | no, just do swapon /dev/swappartion |
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| [03:59:15] | JeffATL: | i'm stuck at the first mythtv-setup screen – how do i pick from Card Type choices? |
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| [04:01:30] | JeffATL: | it only says "Analog V4L Capture Card" and all I can seem to do is move to the next blank or leave the screen, thereby adding that card type (which I don't want) |
| [04:01:51] | RaYmAn-Bx: | ..tried using the arrow keys left and right? |
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| [04:04:03] | eiggirC: | mythbackend quits silently if it can't access the recordings directory |
| [04:04:12] | eiggirC: | and my raid won't automatically mount |
| [04:05:32] | JeffATL: | RaYmAn-Bx: ok that got it, thanks – i have a pvr-150 and have selected "MPEG-2 Decoder" but the only choice it gives me for default input is "television" – it's saying that it can't proble /dev/video0 for input information |
| [04:06:17] | JeffATL: | wait, i think i know! |
| [04:06:32] | JeffATL: | i have to reboot in order to fire up the kernel that has the bttv drivers etc |
| [04:30:02] | MooingLemur: | how many people are in the same boat I am. Mythbackend tends to barf after a day or two and lock up for no good reason. Only thing I can think of is firewire screwing up. |
| [04:30:39] | MooingLemur: | I'm tempted to just try to put firewire on a box besides the main backend |
| [04:30:55] | Beirdo: | GOD that was painful |
| [04:31:10] | Beirdo: | just cleaned out 8000+ spam from my inbox |
| [04:33:45] | Beirdo: | all because a company I wanted to apply to wouldn't accept email from gmail |
| [04:35:15] | MooingLemur: | hmm |
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| [04:47:28] | ftp3: | i am using knoppmyth with a pvr 350 and sound does not work when i play a dvd.. I have tried every audio driver in xine... has anyone experienced this issue? |
| [04:48:06] | Anduin: | ftp3 – are you expecting 350 audio out? |
| [04:48:36] | ftp3: | i well, i have the audio out from my soundcard plugged into the 350.. the tv sound works |
| [04:48:59] | ftp3: | should I not expect sound from the tv when i watch a dvd? |
| [04:50:38] | Anduin: | ftp3 – Unless the 350 is doing the decoding don't expect sound, as for pass through, I though the recommendation was the other way. |
| [04:51:47] | ftp3: | hmm.. ok.. so, i guess i need to output the sound card to my stereo system |
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| [04:55:01] | ftp3: | so, most people with mythtv listen to dvds through the computer speakers? |
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| [04:56:12] | KeyserSoze: | anyone got a link for installing mythtv on debian? |
| [04:56:58] | Anduin: | ftp3 – I think most of us run our soundcard out to someplace. |
| [04:58:37] | KeyserSoze: | ftp3: you can get a cable that goes from headphone jack to RCA jacks, and plug your soundcards output into your tv, or stereo |
| [04:58:39] | ftp3: | anduin, is there some cable or something to convert the audio out cable to rca jacks or some |
| [04:58:40] | ftp3: | lmao |
| [04:58:55] | ftp3: | keysersoze, i will get that tomorrow then, thanks! |
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| [05:03:47] | esac: | i am trying to use the media center remote/ir blaster, anybody had any luck with that ? |
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| [05:18:01] | in8: | does anyone know why my channels are showing up as "channel 2 – 2" without station identifier? also I've used the perl script mkiconmap.pl and then mythfilldatabase --import-icon-map iconmap.xml --update-icon-map but still no icon happiness (using mythdora with myth 0.19) is there maybe a something to be done to tell the db to use the icons |
| [05:18:02] | in8: | ?? |
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| [05:25:26] | esac: | i really need to figure out this usb ir blaster .. if it doesn't work i cant use mythtv at all .. my wife is already yelling at me to turn media center back on :( |
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| [05:30:18] | esac: | in8, i dont think anybody on this channel actually knows anything : |
| [05:31:10] | dtm: | in8: have you maybe tried to repair your mysql db? |
| [05:31:26] | dtm: | in8: or perhaps even delete and readd the channels entirely |
| [05:32:04] | Caveman: | i'm having a problem after moving my tv dump folder to another HDD. For some reason when i go to watch recordings only two recordings are visable (and will play). whereas if i look at mythweb it shows all of the recordings i'd expect |
| [05:32:20] | Caveman: | i've changed the option in mythtv-setup |
| [05:32:23] | Anduin: | esac – Friday night (many places) may not be the best time to make that assessment. |
| [05:32:45] | esac: | hey thats true, and i forget that it's st paddys day |
| [05:32:59] | dtm: | Anduin: if a person is shitheaded enough to make that assessment at all, they'll make it whenever they want regardless of words or reason |
| [05:33:02] | esac: | i just did my drinking and eating corned beef earlier to get home and watch the kids |
| [05:33:43] | dtm: | in8: there are sql commands to repair individual tables, and there's a shell command to repair the whole thing |
| [05:34:23] | eiggirC: | where does one tell a frontend machine to look for the backend ? |
| [05:34:55] | dtm: | eiggirC: mythtv-setup, i think |
| [05:35:09] | in8: | if I screwed the db on first run, would it stay screwed upon update? |
| [05:35:27] | Caveman: | eiggirC: yeah, mythtv-setup |
| [05:35:47] | dtm: | in8: when i used mythtv with mysql3, it corrupted itself continuously... just every few weeks or so. |
| [05:35:58] | dtm: | in8: mysql is generally ridiculous crap |
| [05:36:09] | dtm: | data integrity is irrelevant to its design |
| [05:36:15] | dtm: | in8: so you can't rule it out |
| [05:36:31] | dtm: | of course it could be a bug in mythtv, but i haven't heard of that particular one in here |
| [05:36:44] | in8: | ok thanks I'll try reset the channels db |
| [05:37:15] | in8: | Iwon't know for sure til I get home from work.... :( |
| [05:37:28] | dtm: | in8: do you have mysql 4? |
| [05:37:39] | in8: | yes |
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| [05:38:05] | in8: | mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.11, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386) |
| [05:38:48] | eiggirC: | dtm: thanks |
| [05:38:50] | in8: | just need to transcode small enough to sream over the crappy dial-up at work.... :) |
| [05:38:51] | eiggirC: | Caveman: thanks |
| [05:38:59] | dtm: | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/repair.html |
| [05:39:03] | dtm: | in8: there are clues |
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| [05:39:19] | eiggirC: | turns out that ccache wasn't installed, and ./usr/local/lib wasn't listed in /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [05:39:20] | dtm: | in8: lol what? you want to stream movies over dialup? |
| [05:39:33] | dtm: | in8: and.....your workplace uses dialup? |
| [05:39:43] | Caveman: | i was under the impression that the "watch recordings" and mythweb would pull recording data from the same spot? I can't explain why they differ and all of my programs arn't showing |
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| [05:39:56] | in8: | hehe... do you think it'll work? :) jk |
| [05:40:12] | dtm: | in8: depending on your definition of 'work', yes |
| [05:40:32] | dtm: | in8: you can do a 160x120 slideshow with 16kbps audio |
| [05:40:44] | dtm: | if no other traffic occurs |
| [05:41:02] | dtm: | in8: why would you do that |
| [05:41:09] | dtm: | in8: where do you work that uses dialup? |
| [05:41:13] | Anduin: | Caveman – It should be pulled out of the same table, even if the files are missing they should still appear in watch recordings, which means your filter is messed up, hit M |
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| [05:42:19] | Caveman: | Anduin: perfect, thanks champ |
| [05:43:13] | in8: | at an airline freight company (technophobe boss...) |
| [05:43:36] | in8: | trying to get him to get with the times |
| [05:45:09] | dtm: | in8: amazing. |
| [05:45:17] | dtm: | in8: how can the company even function? |
| [05:45:49] | dtm: | in8: purely by fax and telephone and mail?! not even a redneck sawmill in the middle of western kansas can function without broadband. |
| [05:46:07] | in8: | hehe... we really don't need high bandwidth just a connection to check arrival times etc... |
| [05:46:10] | dtm: | due to shipping alone |
| [05:46:37] | eiggirC: | YAYAYAY myth works! |
| [05:46:38] | dtm: | you must be filled with murderous rage then huh ^_^ |
| [05:46:39] | in8: | I fax about 300 pages a day |
| [05:46:45] | dtm: | in8: whaaaaaaa |
| [05:46:50] | in8: | DEFINATELY |
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| [05:47:14] | in8: | we need a paper trail if things go bad... |
| [05:47:47] | dtm: | lol |
| [05:48:02] | dtm: | if... what things? what could be worse than having a paper trail made out of paper? :) |
| [05:48:43] | in8: | I've even stooped to trying FLVPlayer with mythweb but file sizes are still 80meg... like 30000000 hours to dl on dialup.... |
| [05:49:28] | pyrotech: | does anyone know how to resolve the mythfilldatabase authorization failed problem? |
| [05:51:04] | SlicerDicer: | hey xris offhand do you know what would cause it to where I would not be able to download the mythvideos through the browser? I was able to and I am looking through my logs I cant seem to find any cause of whats not allowing me to download them |
| [05:51:16] | SlicerDicer: | both mythvideo and myth recordings are not able to be downloaded |
| [05:51:18] | in8: | well dtm people are stupid... they think that "if I bring this package to the airport and give it to you they'll have a plane waiting for this package to goto timbucktoo and it'll be there in a half hour or its free" |
| [05:51:23] | SlicerDicer: | it gives me a download option but it dies right away |
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| [06:57:57] | maestrotech: | hi guys |
| [06:58:14] | maestrotech: | i'm having a terrible database backup/restore issue |
| [06:58:55] | maestrotech: | does anyone know how if database schemas change drastically over different versions of mythtv ? |
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| [07:01:35] | dtm: | maestrotech: the changelog says exactly how |
| [07:01:57] | dtm: | maestrotech: but we can't guess what versions you're talking about |
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| [07:02:29] | maestrotech: | dtm, totally — of course not. Would you happen to know of any conversion/upgrade scripts? |
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| [07:02:51] | SPYGuy: | I am looking for some help with a pvr-500. The encoding quality seems to be good, but I think something is wrong with the tuning. I get a bad picture (lots of noise) and scrolling horizontal lines. |
| [07:02:52] | dtm: | for what?! |
| [07:03:05] | maestrotech: | unfortunately, i didn't do an upgrade...I'm doing a move to another system. From a debian system to an ubuntu system. |
| [07:03:12] | dtm: | SPYGuy: are you talking about interlacing |
| [07:03:13] | maestrotech: | conversion scripts for the database. |
| [07:03:46] | SPYGuy: | dtm: no it seems to be bad coming from the cable nothing to do with encoding |
| [07:03:50] | dtm: | maestrotech: ok so you're just *not* going to reveal the versions or read the changelog |
| [07:04:06] | dtm: | maestrotech: is that part of your active strategy? |
| [07:04:09] | SPYGuy: | but my cable is good if I plug it directly into the tv |
| [07:04:32] | dtm: | SPYGuy: i know a guy with exactly the same problem with pvrusb2 hardware |
| [07:04:43] | dtm: | SPYGuy: has it always been this way? |
| [07:04:46] | SPYGuy: | I can post a picture if need be |
| [07:04:55] | SPYGuy: | yes ever since I converted from an old wintv card |
| [07:07:30] | maestrotech: | dtm, i don't know the versions. |
| [07:07:37] | dtm: | lol |
| [07:07:41] | SPYGuy: | anyone have sample configs for a pvr-500? |
| [07:07:43] | maestrotech: | :: sigh :: |
| [07:08:25] | maestrotech: | i guess i just wasn't expecting the database schema to change. |
| [07:08:36] | maestrotech: | poor mistake on my part. |
| [07:08:52] | dtm: | maestrotech: how can you possibly not know the version of mythtv you're using? |
| [07:09:08] | maestrotech: | dtm, packages. |
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| [07:09:23] | dtm: | . . . |
| [07:09:24] | maestrotech: | dtm, i have never compiled by source. |
| [07:09:38] | dtm: | maestrotech: .....price of tea in china... |
| [07:09:40] | dtm: | etc |
| [07:09:58] | maestrotech: | dtm, what ever version comes with debian unstable and ubuntu multiverse. |
| [07:10:27] | dtm: | i'm fairly sure you have logs. |
| [07:11:15] | maestrotech: | dtm, wow, I wasn't aware that logs could survive a partition reformat. |
| [07:11:25] | dtm: | :-I |
| [07:12:30] | maestrotech: | dtm, like i said...i was converted my system from debian to ubuntu. I thought a database dump would save the configs. |
| [07:13:31] | dtm: | maestrotech: well since you're not going to look up the versions and read the changelog or try to reverse engineer thereof, then good luck! |
| [07:14:27] | maestrotech: | dtm, are the version numbers located in the database data perchance? |
| [07:14:44] | dtm: | :-I |
| [07:15:26] | maestrotech: | where might i find the changelog? |
| [07:15:32] | maestrotech: | :-I |
| [07:15:41] | dtm: | in the src tarball or google |
| [07:23:29] | SPYGuy: | ok now I have fixed the static problem and the picture is just slightly fuzzy |
| [07:23:36] | SPYGuy: | I did tuner=57,57,57,57 |
| [07:25:45] | maestrotech: | drm, Version 0.18.1 |
| [07:26:32] | dtm: | maestrotech: version 0.18.1 --> 0.19 does autoupdate as i'm sure you now know, since you've doubtlessly read the changelog |
| [07:26:50] | dtm: | what i did though, was to use 'sed' to replace the hostnames |
| [07:27:07] | dtm: | coz i moved from one host with mysql3 to another host with mysql4. |
| [07:27:12] | dtm: | and it was seamless/automatic |
| [07:27:52] | maestrotech: | thanks |
| [07:28:13] | dtm: | i don't know if that was required. |
| [07:28:19] | dtm: | i didn't bother to find out, since it was just one command |
| [07:28:31] | dtm: | cat mythconverg.db | sed -e 's,ChromaKey,mythdb,g' > mythconverg2.db |
| [07:28:32] | dtm: | like so. |
| [07:30:04] | maestrotech: | sed..got it. thank you. |
| [07:33:02] | dtm: | maestrotech: what?! it works now? |
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| [07:33:58] | maestrotech: | i'm working my magic spells that you taught me today. |
| [07:34:01] | maestrotech: | ...as we speak. |
| [07:34:05] | ftp3: | hey.. on the "rip dvd" screen.. how do I make it start ripping.. I selected all the titles.. but there is never an option to start ripping |
| [07:34:12] | dtm: | :-o |
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| [07:37:32] | monkeypet: | Anything interesting in here tonight? |
| [07:40:29] | maestrotech: | drm, interesting. |
| [07:40:59] | maestrotech: | dtm, that is more like it...running the correct database would have helped. |
| [07:41:22] | maestrotech: | monkeypet, you are. ;-) |
| [07:41:27] | dtm: | :-. |
| [07:42:05] | maestrotech: | YES!!!! |
| [07:42:09] | maestrotech: | I'm back in business! |
| [07:42:19] | dtm: | o/ |
| [07:42:23] | maestrotech: | w00t! |
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| [07:43:06] | monkeypet: | Yay! |
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| [07:43:43] | maestrotech: | ok, next step is getting MySQL to accept remote connections. i did this before, i just gotta remember what i googled. |
| [07:44:28] | monkeypet: | its on the mythtv doc pages. |
| [07:45:33] | shiznix: | is there a setting somewhere in mythtv to enable upmixing mono audio to stereo ? |
| [07:46:33] | shiznix: | at present mythtv is creating a stereo audio track from a mono audio card, with both audio channels severely biased to the left-hand side |
| [07:47:10] | dtm: | maestrotech: SELECT user,host from mysql.user WHERE user='mythtv'; |
| [07:47:21] | dtm: | maestrotech: that needs to be 10.1.1.% or whatever your subnet is |
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| [07:51:19] | shiznix: | oh, i see the dilemma |
| [07:51:58] | shiznix: | if Line-in is used, the stereo balance is perfect, but the audio/video sync is stuffed |
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| [07:52:30] | shiznix: | if Capture is used, the audio/video sync is perfect, but the stereo balance is stuffed |
| [07:52:38] | ShockValue: | how do i allow a regular user to use the dvb hd3000 dev devices? (like this |
| [07:52:38] | ShockValue: | ) |
| [07:52:53] | ShockValue: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 4 Mar 17 23:06 demux0 |
| [07:53:19] | shiznix: | any clues ? |
| [07:58:27] | SPYGuy: | what system shock value? |
| [07:58:30] | SPYGuy: | distro |
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| [08:03:25] | ShockValue: | gentoo.. just switched to udebv |
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| [08:13:43] | maestrotech: | dtm, i still can't get remote connections. |
| [08:14:09] | maestrotech: | dtm, i have the database users set...and now i'm fudding around with the my.cnf |
| [08:14:12] | maestrotech: | ..file. |
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| [08:16:05] | dtm: | maestrotech: there's db acl and user acl |
| [08:16:15] | dtm: | maestrotech: and you can delete the acl too |
| [08:17:49] | shiznix: | hmmm...me thinks either a bug in later versions of alsamixer or mythtv can't handle alsamixer >1.0.6 |
| [08:18:00] | shiznix: | following the instructions here -> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| [08:19:03] | shiznix: | MythTV cannot unmute the Line-in channel, manually unmuting Line-in from alsamixer results in very bad audio/video sync |
| [08:22:33] | shiznix: | does MythTV even use amixer to unmute the Line-in ? |
| [08:23:41] | meushi: | maestrotech: what error do you get from a remote machine when you're trying to connect with mysql client? |
| [08:24:00] | maestrotech: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'demona' (using password: YES) |
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| [08:25:01] | shiznix: | maestrotech: are you running mysqld on your LAN IP, set in my.cnf, & have restarted mysqld ? |
| [08:25:20] | maestrotech: | shiznix, yes. |
| [08:25:33] | monkeypet: | try it from the backend: mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [08:25:55] | meushi: | could be a very dumb one, like "skip-networking" still in the config |
| [08:26:32] | maestrotech: | they don't use skip-networking in the config anymore |
| [08:26:40] | maestrotech: | i only have the binding parameter |
| [08:27:11] | meushi: | ok, already a possible cause removed |
| [08:29:10] | maestrotech: | monkeypet, works on backend |
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| [08:34:40] | monkeypet: | mysql -u mythtv -h demona -p mythconverg |
| [08:34:46] | monkeypet: | from the backend? |
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| [08:35:56] | maestrotech: | found the problem |
| [08:36:02] | ** meushi grins ** | |
| [08:36:05] | maestrotech: | :: sigh :: thank you meushi. |
| [08:36:10] | maestrotech: | I'm embarrassed to say. |
| [08:36:14] | meushi: | you're welcome :) |
| [08:36:16] | maestrotech: | but, i should...just in case. |
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| [08:36:29] | meushi: | happens to all of us :) |
| [08:36:34] | maestrotech: | the password for the two mythtv users (localhost and %) were different. |
| [08:39:20] | maestrotech: | damn it. |
| [08:39:28] | maestrotech: | now my backend isn't authenticating..... |
| [08:39:47] | maestrotech: | i have to log in as mythtv, and run myth-setup? |
| [08:40:45] | meushi: | is it an already setup backend? |
| [08:41:08] | meushi: | if so, you can simply edit the mysql.txt file |
| [08:42:53] | maestrotech: | done |
| [08:42:58] | ** maestrotech hugs meushi. ** | |
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| [08:44:40] | randy: | Is there a simple script or way to import existing software encoded .nuv files into different database? |
| [08:48:48] | dtm: | randy: into what different database |
| [08:49:08] | randy: | A different mythbackend |
| [08:49:19] | meushi: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.7 |
| [08:49:21] | dtm: | randy: mysqldump |
| [08:49:21] | meushi: | I'd say |
| [08:49:24] | maestrotech: | ok, last but not least (in this new resetup), i have to script my amixer settings. |
| [08:49:52] | randy: | Basically, my install got screwed up, so I wiped everything, and just kept the nuvs. I was hoping the nuv's have enough info in them to repopulate the database |
| [08:50:29] | dtm: | oh. |
| [08:51:19] | dtm: | mysql -umythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg -e "delete from recorded where basename = '1059_20060317220000.mpg';" |
| [08:51:24] | dtm: | randy: that would delete them. |
| [08:51:29] | dtm: | so you can start from that |
| [08:51:37] | maestrotech: | all done |
| [08:51:41] | maestrotech: | I'm happy again. |
| [08:51:46] | randy: | From what I have read, it seems that as long as they are software nuvs as mine are, they should. |
| [08:51:53] | dtm: | maestrotech: hooray |
| [08:52:48] | randy: | I think my existing database was hosed, and I'd like a tool like "nuvimport" that fills my new database from my .nuv files |
| [08:54:16] | dtm: | randy: well if you can figure out basic sql and a bash 'for' loop, then the above info should get you going |
| [08:55:03] | randy: | Thanks. |
| [08:55:12] | randy: | It looks like http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 0nuv;#141857 should do it |
| [08:55:16] | dtm: | of course you'd be totally missing the rest of the metadata |
| [08:55:40] | randy: | of course, I need to find this "myth.rebuilddatabase.pl" |
| [08:56:37] | maestrotech: | okay, now here is the number 1 question. |
| [08:57:16] | maestrotech: | I want to upgrade from my current "ATI Wonder Capture card" to a real self-encoding card. |
| [08:57:23] | maestrotech: | what do you recommend/have yourselves? |
| [08:57:29] | dtm: | maestrotech: hauppauge |
| [08:57:36] | dtm: | i have WinTV PVR USB2 |
| [08:57:41] | meushi: | hauppauge pvr-x50 |
| [08:57:46] | shiznix: | aha...looks like it maybe a bug in mythtv, i'm getting exactly the same issue as this user -> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . =stereo#9292 |
| [08:58:51] | maestrotech: | should i get one with a remote and all that jazz? |
| [08:59:06] | dtm: | lol how should we know? :) |
| [08:59:18] | maestrotech: | -_- |
| [08:59:19] | dtm: | if you want one and can afford one, then yes |
| [08:59:22] | dtm: | ^_^ |
| [08:59:25] | maestrotech: | :-) |
| [08:59:49] | dtm: | if you don't mind the fact that there willl still be starving children in the world after you've blown that disposable income on nonessential computer hardware. |
| [08:59:54] | maestrotech: | i see 150,350,500 |
| [08:59:56] | maestrotech: | :-O |
| [09:00:05] | maestrotech: | >.< |
| [09:00:08] | dtm: | many of whom are in your own city. |
| [09:00:09] | shiznix: | he talks about toggling through the mute modes, anyone know howto do this ? |
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| [09:01:31] | maestrotech: | do PVRs work with things like Digital Cable (channels going way above 100) ? |
| [09:01:44] | maestrotech: | and satellite. |
| [09:02:07] | maestrotech: | i know there is a decoding process that needs to be done here. |
| [09:03:38] | shiznix: | is it supposed to appear as a menu entry when 'm' is pressed during LiveTV ? |
| [09:04:48] | meushi: | dtm: does the usb pvr work fine and dandy? it might solve my lack of PCI slots problem :) |
| [09:04:56] | dtm: | yes it's perfect. |
| [09:05:01] | dtm: | the driver is state of the art |
| [09:05:25] | meushi: | hmm, it might even solve 2 problems at one time... |
| [09:06:42] | meushi: | I've been toying with the idea of setting one up, attached to a modified slug as a secondary backend |
| [09:07:28] | maestrotech: | is a 150MCE the same as a regular 150 ? |
| [09:09:49] | meushi: | maestrotech: for the remote control, it depends if you have a split setup or not... if you have a separate frontend, there's no point in paying more for the remote |
| [09:09:56] | shiznix: | w00h00, Shift+| does it |
| [09:10:03] | shiznix: | now got stereo |
| [09:10:03] | meushi: | anyways, have to run |
| [09:10:09] | meushi: | laters |
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| [09:10:35] | shiznix: | thanks for all the help, lol |
| [09:11:38] | maestrotech: | thank you veryone |
| [09:11:43] | shiznix: | looks like the bug appears around the introduction of the "independent muting of the left and right channels" setting |
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| [09:11:48] | maestrotech: | wow, its 4AM, i need to bug out to sleep |
| [09:12:00] | monkeypet: | already? |
| [09:12:09] | maestrotech: | after 4AM |
| [09:12:11] | maestrotech: | yeeesh |
| [09:12:32] | maestrotech: | goodnight gang. |
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| [09:27:17] | scudette: | does anyone get this error: |
| [09:27:23] | scudette: | MySQL server has gone away |
| [09:27:34] | scudette: | after installing mythtv 0.19 |
| [09:32:58] | shiznix: | is there a mute entry in the database that would allow me to permanently set that mute workaround ? |
| [09:33:12] | shiznix: | as it passes on through to mythtranscode |
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| [09:49:07] | Peit|home: | I don't suppose anyone here has a working astra 28.8E config? |
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| [10:04:05] | Dibblah: | Piet: Yes. |
| [10:04:13] | Dibblah: | If you mean 28.2. |
| [10:09:39] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: don't suppose you've had your frequencies (as seen by dvbsnoop out by a factor of ten? |
| [10:11:24] | Peit|home: | I managed to get a signal on bbc and itv with an offset of 1029893/1030000ish, but if it use 9750 or whatever the frequency reported by dvbsnoop is in the 9Ghz range, rather than the 1GHz range |
| [10:12:33] | shiznix: | bah, doesn't seem to be |
| [10:12:46] | ** shiznix drops the database & downgrades again ** | |
| [10:14:04] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: wnat lnb/dish are you using, i've got whatever the previous occupants of the house left, looks like a sky minidish. |
| [10:15:26] | Peit|home: | szap works and locks onto signals |
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| [10:20:29] | TarasBulba: | Is there a way to disable timeshifting in source code? |
| [10:22:45] | TarasBulba: | I can dig into source and modify, but couldn't find the exact pieces for timeshifting... why I don't want this feature is that, my CPU is only 1Ghz and it cannot both record livetv and show it at the same time with a card lacking hardware encoder. |
| [10:27:49] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: any chance of a dump of your card and dvt tables? |
| [10:33:57] | Dibblah: | I'm using a sky mini-dish. I have a quadro LNB attached to an 8 port switch on the 'centre beam' – In the middle of the dish. I also have an offset mount quad LNB pointing at hotbird, which works fine. |
| [10:35:28] | Dibblah: | BBC is / was a problem for Myth – It's on a multiplex that splits the SDT. |
| [10:35:45] | Peit|home: | *nods* |
| [10:36:04] | Dibblah: | _may_ be fixed after #9305. |
| [10:36:08] | Peit|home: | oddly i can scan and tune to lots of multiplexes |
| [10:36:10] | Juski: | TarasBulba: timeshifting is the whole point of mythtv |
| [10:36:35] | Dibblah: | And you'll not get much of use without a NDS CAM. |
| [10:36:48] | Dibblah: | Which does not officially exist. |
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| [10:37:05] | Peit|home: | let me check something on layngsat |
| [10:37:28] | Juski: | Dibblah: it either exists or it doesn't... lol |
| [10:37:40] | Dibblah: | BTW, I'm in Scotland, so am at the top end of the footprint. |
| [10:37:50] | Dibblah: | And the smaller dish still works fine for me. |
| [10:38:04] | Juski: | you can get all that with a minidish? nifty |
| [10:38:14] | ** stuarta is nursing a hangover ** | |
| [10:38:24] | Dibblah: | Juski: Fine. The NDS CAM does exist. It's just not official or legal. |
| [10:38:27] | Peit|home: | i think i can get up to 10788V, but nothing higher |
| [10:38:27] | ** Juski hands stuarta a Guinness ** | |
| [10:38:33] | stuarta: | thanks |
| [10:38:49] | Dibblah: | St Paddy's day went well for you, then? |
| [10:39:05] | stuarta: | yep, lots of fun people watching... |
| [10:39:20] | Dibblah: | Peit: ... Is it possible your LNB is in fact buggered? |
| [10:39:54] | Juski: | Peit: is your LNB a 'universal' type |
| [10:39:54] | stuarta: | Dibblah: maybe if you had a bigger dish you could squeeze in the extra LNB |
| [10:40:25] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: i'm going to say it not, because szap will tune and claim a lock at higher frequencies |
| [10:40:48] | Dibblah: | Yeah. A dual horn almost fits – But I sorta need the quad on the centre. |
| [10:40:49] | Peit|home: | in fact i can get 10773, but not 10788 |
| [10:41:27] | TarasBulba: | Juski: "timeshifting is the whole point of mythtv" means that I cannot remove it? I really do not need it and looking for a possible way to disable. |
| [10:41:40] | laga: | morning |
| [10:41:54] | Dibblah: | szap locks but Myth doesn't? |
| [10:42:02] | Peit|home: | yep |
| [10:42:06] | Juski: | TarasBulba: sorry, but that's the way it is I'm afraid. save your pennies for a PVR150 card ;-) |
| [10:42:10] | Juski: | morning laga |
| [10:42:17] | Peit|home: | myth just doesn't seem to send the signal high enough |
| [10:42:34] | Dibblah: | What card? |
| [10:42:40] | Peit|home: | skystar 2 |
| [10:42:47] | laga: | hiya Juski |
| [10:42:56] | Dibblah: | Okay. As long as it's not a Twinhan ;) |
| [10:43:00] | stuarta: | morning laga |
| [10:43:06] | TarasBulba: | Juski: ok, thanks :-) do you know of any other cards that can do h/w encoding, other than hauppage * series? |
| [10:43:08] | laga: | hi stuarta ;) |
| [10:43:21] | Dibblah: | Morning, Everybody! |
| [10:43:38] | Juski: | TarasBulba: the pvr150 is the cheapest you can get which will work in Linux |
| [10:44:07] | TarasBulba: | Juski: thanks a lot. :) |
| [10:44:11] | Peit|home: | what have you got for LOF hi and LOF low? |
| [10:44:49] | Dibblah: | Peit: Have you tried just a full scan (tuned)? Some of the multiplexes on 28.2 are DVB-S2 only, but are still listed in the service tables. You can tell those ones because they have a 29M symbol rate. |
| [10:44:53] | Dibblah: | Defaults. |
| [10:45:10] | Dibblah: | And which version are you running of Myth? |
| [10:45:17] | Peit|home: | myth 0.19 |
| [10:45:22] | Dibblah: | Ah. |
| [10:45:53] | Peit|home: | 0.19.20060121–2 to be precise |
| [10:45:54] | Dibblah: | I'd say try SVN, but even I haven't got the stones to use that yet. |
| [10:46:12] | Peit|home: | hrm |
| [10:46:18] | Dibblah: | The fix for segmented tables went in after that. |
| [10:46:19] | Juski: | almost had my CCTV DVR confiscated half an hour ago – police came & the image quality was almost good enough to warrant my kit being seized for evidence |
| [10:46:44] | Dibblah: | 09/03, even. |
| [10:46:54] | stuarta: | Juski: they were happy with it then? |
| [10:47:15] | Dibblah: | Unless the law's changed, it's not admissible. |
| [10:47:22] | Juski: | stuarta: they took a printout of the guy who walks like John Cleese (the phantom mirror smasher) |
| [10:47:42] | Dibblah: | Unless it's on analog tape, with a timestamp physically inserted into the frame. |
| [10:47:55] | Juski: | Dibblah: I know all about that. That's up to the CPS to validate the evidence, which they don't bother with for 'trivial' crimes |
| [10:48:03] | Dibblah: | And yes, that's as dumb as it sounds :) |
| [10:48:18] | Juski: | Dibblah: how does digitally signed images grab you? forensically sound :-) |
| [10:48:30] | Peit|home: | o.k. |
| [10:48:39] | Dibblah: | No chain of evidence. Doesn't count. |
| [10:49:00] | Dibblah: | ie you can't trust the camera end – Since that's still analog. |
| [10:49:09] | Juski: | pah |
| [10:49:20] | Dibblah: | Yeah. The law's an ass. |
| [10:49:23] | Juski: | anyway it's useful for IDing the perp |
| [10:49:29] | Dibblah: | Indeed. |
| [10:49:54] | Dibblah: | Also useful for aiming a water gun with UV dye in it. |
| [10:50:02] | Dibblah: | But then I'm just sadistic. |
| [10:50:03] | Juski: | lol |
| [10:50:09] | Juski: | or acid |
| [10:50:21] | Juski: | now that's sadistic |
| [10:50:23] | Dibblah: | Or just turning on a similarly equipped sprinkler system. |
| [10:50:51] | Dibblah: | Ewww... I'm all damp. Aaaaah... It burns! It burns! |
| [10:51:06] | Juski: | muhahahahahahaha |
| [10:51:40] | Dibblah: | Couldn't do that up here – No tresspass == No laws broken == No right to defense. |
| [10:53:10] | Juski: | tresspass isn't actually against any laws AFAIK |
| [10:55:12] | Dibblah: | Peit: Have a look at http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/744 and see if it matches your symptoms. |
| [10:55:59] | Peit|home: | will do |
| [10:56:38] | Peit|home: | any idea why szap to 11680 results n a frontend freq of 1900ish, but myth recons its around 1020 |
| [10:56:49] | Dibblah: | LNB offset. |
| [10:57:15] | crash-x: | is there any way to make the internal player play (s)vcds? |
| [10:57:26] | Dibblah: | The display there is the frequency that the card is tuned to. |
| [10:57:39] | drdaz: | is there a way of limiting optical drive read speed under linux? I've tried hdparm without luck.. |
| [10:57:57] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: no, that url doesn't match, it appears to pick up all the pids on a given multiplex |
| [10:58:03] | laga: | crash-x: there are some kernel patches/module that allow you to mount (s)vcds kinda like windows does, by adding some kind of virtual file system layer. maybe that'd work |
| [10:58:10] | laga: | drdaz: eject? |
| [10:58:18] | drdaz: | lol |
| [10:58:30] | laga: | drdaz: err, i wasn't joking ;) |
| [10:58:31] | eiggirC: | Juski: you got the bugger on camera? EXCELLENT WORK MAN! |
| [10:58:32] | Juski: | drdaz: I saw someone mentiona hdparm -E or something the other day |
| [10:58:40] | drdaz: | laga: that's more limiting that I would expect |
| [10:58:49] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: what have you got yours set to? if i try the defaults, my output freq (on the frontend) is 10x higher than it should be and therefore _really_ out of the supposed range of the card |
| [10:58:50] | Dibblah: | Peit: Odd. It really doesn't match what I see. What type of scan are you doing? |
| [10:58:55] | drdaz: | laga: I think that's plextor drives isnt it? |
| [10:58:58] | eiggirC: | -E set cd-rom drive speed |
| [10:59:14] | drdaz: | Juski: yeah... I've tried that... seems not to affect it |
| [10:59:38] | Dibblah: | I literally have them set at defaults. |
| [10:59:42] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: set transports via channels.conf, or manual tune, and it just populates the multiplex tables, if it tunes a multiplex correctly then it works |
| [10:59:44] | Peit|home: | oddness |
| [10:59:49] | laga: | drdaz: it worked for some other drive i had around, i never tried with my POS plextor one (crappy relabeled stuff) |
| [11:00:00] | Juski: | eiggirC: they took a printout & will be putting the picture on an internal bulletin board system of 'wanted' peeps to see if anyone comes up with a name. same guy passes the house every night (his walk is a dead giveaway) so it's just a matter of time :-P |
| [11:00:03] | Peit|home: | if i set it to defaults it doesn't get _anything_ frontend reports a freq in the 9Ghz range |
| [11:00:06] | Dibblah: | Peit: Clear the whole mess out, then just scan from Myth. |
| [11:00:14] | drdaz: | laga: oO you mean just hitting eject while the drive is screaming? |
| [11:00:22] | Dibblah: | Peit: Using a known-good mplex. |
| [11:00:26] | eiggirC: | Juski: considered waiting for him and asking him his name? |
| [11:00:43] | Juski: | considered just waiting for the fucker & twatting him |
| [11:00:53] | eiggirC: | wait outside someone else's house |
| [11:00:59] | Dibblah: | Subcontract. Much safer. |
| [11:01:05] | eiggirC: | Dibblah: point. |
| [11:01:07] | ** Juski isn't daft ya know ;-) ** | |
| [11:01:08] | crash-x: | laga: but how would that solve my problem with playing svcds with the internal player? |
| [11:01:11] | eiggirC: | much less satisfying htough |
| [11:01:16] | Peit|home: | will do, but i think i tried that, and couldn't get the frequency i put in the 10773 that i know works to give me the 1021Mhz that szap tunes to |
| [11:01:29] | Dibblah: | No, you want to enter it in hz. |
| [11:01:35] | eiggirC: | g;gniht all |
| [11:01:41] | laga: | crash-x: mount it, play it, be happy ;) |
| [11:01:52] | ** Juski admires the countdown sequence he made last night ** | |
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| [11:02:04] | Peit|home: | 10773000000 did the same :) |
| [11:02:06] | crash-x: | that would kinda suck, but ill look at it, thanks |
| [11:02:10] | laga: | drdaz: i mean installing an utility called 'eject', reading the man page and calling it on system start-up with the right parameters ;) |
| [11:02:11] | stuarta: | Juski: what you need is one of those automatic gattling guns you get in games |
| [11:02:24] | drdaz: | laga: oh! heh... |
| [11:02:34] | drdaz: | I'll give that a look |
| [11:02:37] | Juski: | stuarta: nah my car might be a victim of attrition |
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| [11:03:02] | stuarta: | highly amusing though |
| [11:03:03] | Dibblah: | 12129000 |
| [11:03:09] | Dibblah: | Okay, khz :) |
| [11:03:14] | drdaz: | laga: I mentioned the plextors since apparently they allow you to toggle some silent mode by holding the eject button down... |
| [11:03:57] | laga: | drdaz: i have an aopen drive, i think, that has some kind of speed mode where you have to hold the eject button down to make it run at full speed. it's still noisy as hell |
| [11:04:00] | Peit|home: | o.k. one sec |
| [11:04:10] | drdaz: | :( |
| [11:04:39] | Dibblah: | Peit: And clear the multiplex / channel tables first. |
| [11:04:43] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: what symbol rate? |
| [11:04:51] | stuarta: | amazing, commflagging been working okay... |
| [11:05:12] | Peit|home: | i deleted the channel line up and everything from the mythtv-setup, is that enough, or should i try and purge everything else |
| [11:05:26] | Peit|home: | wow, amazingly the frontend is tuning to 1500Mhz region |
| [11:05:29] | drdaz: | hmm that eject command has potential |
| [11:05:50] | Dibblah: | Peit: http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/skyuk.html is what I use to get the initial tuning stuff :) |
| [11:05:53] | drdaz: | the speed setting claims to reset whenever the medium is changed tho |
| [11:06:23] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: what symbol rate and polarity? |
| [11:06:43] | Dibblah: | Peit: Yes, the card is. But the LNB frequency shifts the sat signal, so that's where it should be tuning. |
| [11:06:58] | Dibblah: | Just pick a channel from lyngsat :) |
| [11:06:59] | stuarta: | Dibblah: are those Astra's in the same region as $ky? |
| [11:07:06] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: it's a breakthrough to see it tune antyhgin |
| [11:07:07] | Dibblah: | They are Sky. |
| [11:07:09] | Juski: | drdaz: can you try mounting the drive a little better to lessen the vibration? |
| [11:07:11] | Peit|home: | stuarta: sky is on the astra satellite |
| [11:07:25] | Peit|home: | wooo, i've got a multiplex |
| [11:07:26] | Dibblah: | There's hardly anything else on 28.3 |
| [11:07:31] | Dibblah: | 2, even. |
| [11:07:34] | Peit|home: | it took a long, long time to find it though |
| [11:07:50] | Dibblah: | It's about 15s / mux for me. |
| [11:07:52] | Peit|home: | but it's looking good so far |
| [11:07:55] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [11:08:14] | Peit|home: | god knows what's different |
| [11:08:30] | drdaz: | Juski: its possible... but the thing is bolted pretty firmly in place... it causes the rest of my fairly massive silverstone cabinet to shake like a an alcoholic in rehab |
| [11:09:25] | drdaz: | I've soft-mounted my harddisks in foam... I suspect that would be a less good idea with an optical drive |
| [11:10:19] | Peit|home: | drdaz: try getting some rubber gromets to run the screws through |
| [11:10:53] | drdaz: | Peit|home: hmm.. I'll also try that... thx |
| [11:11:23] | Juski: | drdaz: soft mounting HDDs in foam is hardly a good idea in the 1st place |
| [11:11:38] | drdaz: | Juski: why would that be then? |
| [11:12:14] | Juski: | erm... heat dissipation. use a SMART util to find out how hot the drives are – anything over 50 deg C and you'll have to do something about it |
| [11:12:19] | drdaz: | I've accounted for the lack of conduction by throwing an 80mm fan behind them |
| [11:12:36] | drdaz: | ahh yes :) they sit around 35 for the most part |
| [11:12:43] | laga: | i'Ve just found a greating posting on debianforum.de. someone tried to RMA a hard drive to the vendor who answered that running linux on those hard disks is not supported, only ntfs and fat32. linux file systems are too aggressive and kill the disk. there are weird people over there |
| [11:12:54] | Juski: | alright then – at least you checked |
| [11:13:12] | laga: | s/greating/great/ |
| [11:14:39] | Juski: | laga: that's got to be plain BS. no such thing as an agressive filesystem. the worst thing that can happen with drives is that their wear-levelling software isn't the best, and the lubricant on the surface of the disk can pile up in tiny 'drifts' – but not so high they hit the head. A WD techy told me that |
| [11:14:53] | Dibblah: | Stupid Murdoch. Should just release an NDS CAM and be happy. :( |
| [11:15:23] | drdaz: | Juski: yeah.. I was pretty concerned about that.. but I carved a pretty neat HD rack out of the foam that came with my cabinet. Lots of space for air to flow... checked temps religiously for the first couple weeks of using it. Really helps with noise as it happens. |
| [11:16:11] | laga: | Juski: of course it's bullshit ;) |
| [11:17:35] | Juski: | there'a always the 'Dragon' CAM – hardware CAM you can use with $ky cards. I heard it works okay |
| [11:18:05] | drdaz: | hmm I'm thinking that I could write a script with that eject call in it, followed by my DVD play command and run that from MythDVD... |
| [11:18:23] | ** drdaz scratches his head ** | |
| [11:19:04] | Juski: | the 'Dragon' stuff works out more expensive than getting an official $ky box though – be warned. Someone on a UK site sells a Dreambox & hardware CAM package that allegedly works with $ky |
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| [11:19:41] | Juski: | drdaz: my DVD drive is noisy when I first put a disc in, but pretty silent while playing |
| [11:19:55] | drdaz: | I wish I could say the same :) |
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| [11:20:17] | Juski: | there'll be an ATAPI command you can use to set the read speed.. you just need to find the IOCTL for it (or something) |
| [11:20:19] | Dibblah: | Anyone want to buy a cheap dragon CAM? |
| [11:20:21] | Dibblah: | ;) |
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| [11:20:32] | drdaz: | if it's a purchased DVD then its silent... but anything not pressed screams |
| [11:20:59] | Juski: | drdaz: so burn at a lower speed.. or just buy a humongous HDD or 2 |
| [11:21:38] | drdaz: | burn at a lower speed? |
| [11:22:21] | Juski: | oh btw laga: seen what's back up? ;-) Let the proles moan about it – my official policy is now 'I don't G A F' |
| [11:22:50] | stuarta: | wonder how the shared sky dishes are wired up... |
| [11:22:56] | Juski: | drdaz: you inferred that your dvd drive only goes ballistic with recordable discs |
| [11:23:04] | Dibblah: | What do you mean how? |
| [11:23:23] | drdaz: | Juski: yep... but lower burn rate != lower read rate? |
| [11:23:44] | stuarta: | whether there is any switch equipment or stuff between the lnb & the shared consumers |
| [11:23:56] | laga: | Juski: heh. that works for me ;) |
| [11:24:01] | Dibblah: | http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php?curre . . . eivers-.html |
| [11:24:01] | Peit|home: | there's quite a bit :) |
| [11:24:11] | Dibblah: | Hardly anything. |
| [11:24:27] | Dibblah: | All you need in addition is a quadro LNB. |
| [11:24:33] | Peit|home: | well, it's not just a cable splitter :) |
| [11:24:36] | TarasBulba: | juski – can I modify the time shifting duration of mythtv? i.e a few seconds or such? or 0 ? |
| [11:24:41] | Juski: | drdaz: you said it's better with pressed discs.. maybe dvd-r or whatever are 'less readable', so the drive needs to spin faster to do more retries (or whatever) |
| [11:24:53] | Peit|home: | wouldn't you need an LNB per frequency? or at least an LNB per reciever |
| [11:24:56] | stuarta: | Cause my GF's new flat has a shared dish on the roof |
| [11:24:56] | drdaz: | hmm its possible.. |
| [11:25:00] | Dibblah: | quattro, even. |
| [11:25:12] | Dibblah: | Nope. One quattro does it. |
| [11:25:14] | Juski: | TarasBulba: you can't have 0 buffer size. I don't think you can change it anyway |
| [11:25:44] | Dibblah: | H/L V/L H/H V/H is all you need. |
| [11:25:48] | Peit|home: | juski you can set your ringbuffer size... don't know how small you can go |
| [11:26:02] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: oh, I suppose so |
| [11:26:14] | stuarta: | I'd assume the switch equipment is already there |
| [11:26:16] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: colour me corrected, |
| [11:26:34] | ** Peit|home watches his scan go to 100% then back down to 75% ** | |
| [11:26:37] | ** Peit|home shrugs ** | |
| [11:26:39] | Dibblah: | It works really well – At one point I had 2 Sky+s and 4 DVB cards on one dish. |
| [11:26:43] | Juski: | ringbuffer? what what? what ringbuffer, in 0.19? ;-) |
| [11:26:54] | Dibblah: | There is a ringbuffer in .19. |
| [11:27:21] | Dibblah: | Just not the one you're thinking of. |
| [11:27:43] | Peit|home: | oh, they changed the livetv stuff to a recording didn't they |
| [11:27:45] | Juski: | less of a ringbuffer, more a file for the livetv show being recorded |
| [11:28:14] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: a quattro is probably overkill for me |
| [11:28:17] | Juski: | it's no longer a cyclically accessed file with a fixed size |
| [11:28:26] | Dibblah: | ... The DVB / ATSC HD stuff uses a ringbuffer. |
| [11:28:52] | Juski: | yes but I'm talking about what we mere mortals use ;-) |
| [11:29:50] | Dibblah: | Peit: Don't get a quattro – You'd be very disappointed. Normal use, you need a quad. |
| [11:29:57] | Peit|home: | i'm still wary of killing another skystar 2, the last one melted a pci slot |
| [11:30:12] | Dibblah: | Quattro is only if you have a switch to run. |
| [11:30:15] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: a quad, that's probably what i meant, new world for me |
| [11:30:21] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [11:31:04] | stuarta: | melted a pci slot????? |
| [11:31:05] | Peit|home: | there aren't any clear HD signals on astra 28.2 are there? |
| [11:31:30] | Peit|home: | stuarta: yep, |
| [11:31:30] | Dibblah: | No HD at all on DVB-S. |
| [11:31:38] | Dibblah: | It's all DVB-S2 :( |
| [11:32:01] | stuarta: | how on earth did you manage that? |
| [11:32:07] | Peit|home: | Dibblah oh, but i thought there was on eurobird (1080i is the channel i'm thinking off) |
| [11:32:14] | laga: | the first dvb-s2 cards are coming soon |
| [11:32:32] | stuarta: | no that there is any linux support yet |
| [11:32:32] | Dibblah: | Yup. That's at 19.2 |
| [11:32:33] | Juski: | I suspect he shorted out the LNB power – and maybe the card is unfused |
| [11:32:34] | laga: | hauppauge, i think. i've been told that the knc one card sucks |
| [11:33:04] | Dibblah: | dvbshop had one for preorder, but it seems to have disappeared. |
| [11:33:04] | Peit|home: | stuarta: my skystar2 blew a transistor and got very hot, it happended after a couple of hours of heavy back-to back scanning, it could have just been a weak componat |
| [11:33:41] | stuarta: | what is everyone's favourite dvb-s card then? |
| [11:33:54] | Dibblah: | Other option is that your LNB connection is improperly sealed and is therefore drawing lots more than it should. |
| [11:34:06] | Dibblah: | Anything other than Twinhan + clones. |
| [11:34:21] | Juski: | why not twinhan? |
| [11:34:23] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: that's very, very possible, i did the cable myself hanging out a window |
| [11:34:26] | Dibblah: | Yes – They're cheap. But the flipside of that is they're cheap. |
| [11:34:30] | Juski: | are they eeeeeeeevil ? |
| [11:34:33] | stuarta: | some decent prices on dvbshop too... |
| [11:34:55] | Peit|home: | wooooo, i have access to extreme sports aain |
| [11:35:05] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: you are my hero :) |
| [11:35:08] | Juski: | couple of dreamboxen running Neutrino into mythtv... |
| [11:35:16] | Dibblah: | Thanks. I didn't do nothing :) |
| [11:35:27] | Juski: | hey I've not tried networking my Neutrino box since I installed 0.19 |
| [11:36:10] | Juski: | oh wait – screw that I just remembered all the hoop jumping I'd have to do adding channels manually :-/ |
| [11:36:35] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: you talked me through getting it working, and that's enough for me |
| [11:36:39] | stuarta: | technotrend hdtv-s2 card £90.30 on dvbshop |
| [11:36:54] | Juski: | technotrend are good aren't they? |
| [11:36:58] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [11:37:15] | Juski: | I've got a dish lying in my garden – 60cm. all it'd need is a universal LNB |
| [11:37:19] | Dibblah: | I've had one of their FF cards and one of their budgets. Liked both. |
| [11:37:34] | Dibblah: | Juski: Seriously recommend dvbshop. |
| [11:37:41] | Juski: | and – the mounting point is still accessible |
| [11:38:51] | Dibblah: | http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/ . . . B-0-3dB.html |
| [11:39:22] | Dibblah: | Is what I use for my off-axis 13.0 – And still get a good signal even though I'm out of footprint, technically. |
| [11:39:45] | Juski: | I've figured out how I could achieve affordable HDTV here – a frontend housed outside the livingroom (say, upstairs) and put all the signals on CAT5 cables. VGA travels well on CAT5, as does IR remote data & digital audio :-) |
| [11:40:34] | Juski: | or does anyone have other suggestions for a silent HD frontend? ;-) |
| [11:40:43] | Juski: | (and I mean _silent_) |
| [11:40:49] | Dibblah: | For me, I have mine in the attic. |
| [11:41:20] | Peit|home: | Juski: i use a hushpc in the frontroom, (well, it's in my study at the moment) |
| [11:41:26] | Dibblah: | VGA is run on a DIY VGA cable to the projector (through the wall + ceiling). |
| [11:41:27] | Peit|home: | all recording nodes are in the loft |
| [11:42:05] | Dibblah: | USB2 is connected through 5 USB hubs (tetrahub, all others appear to suck badly) |
| [11:42:21] | Juski: | well when I win the lotto tonight I'm gonna have a mythtv house built |
| [11:42:53] | Juski: | proper cinema room in the middle of the house (dream on) |
| [11:42:56] | Dibblah: | To my frontend box, which is a VFD display, DVD drive, card reader and Microsoft remote receiver. |
| [11:43:05] | Peit|home: | hushpc = no fans, only noise is the harddrive, and I've run it nfsroot before |
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| [11:43:41] | Dibblah: | card reader for photos, etc. |
| [11:43:42] | Juski: | I thought a hushpc would be underpowered for HD |
| [11:43:51] | Peit|home: | hmm |
| [11:43:54] | drdaz: | using nvidia's binary drivers, you're not supposed to load the dri module right? |
| [11:44:04] | Peit|home: | depends on your decode card |
| [11:44:22] | Peit|home: | i missed the HD part, but ... |
| [11:44:31] | Andreax: | Can someone enlight me what the error "bad ANN query" means? |
| [11:44:31] | Juski: | drdaz: nvidia is the only module to load AFAIK |
| [11:45:43] | drdaz: | Juski: oh I meant in xorg.conf... I've always read (and until now experienced) that dri should not be loaded... |
| [11:46:23] | Andreax: | drdaz: dri is also disabled in my xorg.conf... |
| [11:46:33] | Peit|home: | is there a way to see the current bitrate of a stream? |
| [11:46:45] | drdaz: | but now unless I load it, playback and graphical performance is poor oO |
| [11:47:14] | Juski: | Hush E4 system: £1,954.03 INC. VAT (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) |
| [11:47:19] | drdaz: | and for the life of me, I have no idea what's changed... I'm 100% sure that I'm using the nvidia driver... |
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| [11:47:32] | drdaz: | lol bargain! |
| [11:47:42] | Dibblah: | drdaz: Have you recently upgraded nvidia driver versions? |
| [11:47:49] | drdaz: | no.. |
| [11:47:56] | Dibblah: | Okay. Don't ;) |
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| [11:48:25] | Juski: | I'm not gonna spend that kind of money on a PC, _ever_ |
| [11:48:36] | Juski: | not in one go anyway |
| [11:48:50] | Peit|home: | Juski: i'm using the via M10000 based one, but it only does mpeg2 decode, newer ones do mpeg4 decode as well i think |
| [11:48:54] | drdaz: | :) running 7676... in fact just tried switching from rpms to nvidia's installer to make sure that some minor borkage in atrpms was messing with my stuff |
| [11:49:13] | drdaz: | same story.. |
| [11:49:23] | drdaz: | not that its a problem as such.. but really really weird |
| [11:49:52] | Juski: | Peit|home: I'm a very happy M10000 owner too |
| [11:49:54] | drdaz: | previously loading dri would crash my system when I tried to watch a recording, say.. |
| [11:51:05] | Peit|home: | Juski: i've had a lot of heart ache with my hush, it had to go back for a new motherboard (not their fault, bad capacitors) |
| [11:51:29] | Juski: | I'm kind of in the market for a new case so I can sell my Silverstone |
| [11:51:46] | drdaz: | not happy with your silverstone? |
| [11:52:38] | Juski: | not so much unhappy – my little diddy EPIA board just swims in it |
| [11:52:41] | Peit|home: | o.k. anoyer random question, what's the best way to choose with regional varient of a channel to use? (after the highest bit rate of say bbc 1 etc.) |
| [11:52:45] | drdaz: | oh lol |
| [11:52:58] | Juski: | PSU is a bit noisy too |
| [11:53:10] | drdaz: | ok.. it was included with the case? |
| [11:53:15] | Juski: | I mean I can barely hear it when I move close to the case |
| [11:53:37] | Juski: | those PicoPSUs look funky – seen em? |
| [11:54:02] | Juski: | they're a little bigger than an ATX PSU connector – you use em with an external brick |
| [11:54:18] | drdaz: | cant say I have... but.. if u can barely hear it when you're close to the case, how is it noisy? |
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| [11:54:41] | drdaz: | or is it just that you can hear it at all? |
| [11:54:48] | Juski: | mostly that |
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| [11:54:50] | drdaz: | ahh ok |
| [11:54:57] | Juski: | I want silence! |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [11:55:11] | drdaz: | got myself a seasonic S330... very very quiet |
| [11:55:17] | Dibblah: | I said that too. She laughed at me :( |
| [11:55:22] | drdaz: | lol!! |
| [11:55:42] | Juski: | put it this way I measured the sound output of a 25dB fan in my livingroom. it was indeed 25dBA... and was objectionable even from the sofa distance |
| [11:55:49] | Peit|home: | i use tagan PSUs in my normal box |
| [11:56:00] | Dibblah: | Juski: Get an ipod. |
| [11:56:05] | drdaz: | hahaha |
| [11:56:13] | Dibblah: | Turn it up loud for a couple of hours. |
| [11:56:18] | Dibblah: | Problem solved. |
| [11:56:40] | Juski: | my hearing should be shot by all accounts, having been a DJ for so long in a previous life |
| [11:56:54] | Peit|home: | or do what i do... stick a fish tank in there :) |
| [11:56:59] | Dibblah: | Must get on with wiring in the garage. Can't get the energy up :( |
| [11:57:03] | drdaz: | Dibblah: he'd need to deafen the sound measurement tool too... or the problem isnt solved :p |
| [11:57:04] | Juski: | I measured my car stereo output at my favourite setting.. 110dBA |
| [11:57:26] | Juski: | so by rights I shouldn't be able to hear 25dB |
| [11:57:36] | drdaz: | lol nice... u seen that flick "Its all gone pete tong"? |
| [11:57:59] | Juski: | ambient in the livingroom is 30dBA anyway unless Subwoofer retard is driving past the house |
| [11:58:26] | Juski: | drdaz: not yet.. not in any great hurry to either if it's as 'good' as human traffic was |
| [11:58:36] | drdaz: | heh.. |
| [11:58:45] | drdaz: | I enjoyed it :) |
| [11:59:00] | drdaz: | very different film |
| [11:59:02] | Juski: | I think clubbing films are best enjoyed while monged. and I don't do that anymore |
| [11:59:12] | drdaz: | to human traffic at least |
| [11:59:25] | drdaz: | this isnt a clubbing film per se... well perhaps a bit |
| [11:59:34] | Juski: | ah cool – I thought it was |
| [11:59:41] | drdaz: | well the guy is a DJ |
| [11:59:51] | drdaz: | and he's in the clubs and lives the life and so on.. |
| [12:00:16] | drdaz: | the story is really more how horribly wrong it goes |
| [12:00:45] | Juski: | the life... fast cars, fast relationships, booze, drugs, rip-off club owners & promoters.. monged punters pissing you off... been there |
| [12:01:20] | drdaz: | yes... then you have a good chance of seeing the humour in this |
| [12:01:47] | drdaz: | of course u might think its pants |
| [12:01:49] | drdaz: | heh |
| [12:02:01] | Juski: | wonder if it's on anytime soon... |
| [12:02:13] | drdaz: | on tv? |
| [12:02:21] | Dibblah: | It's always on... The internet. |
| [12:02:23] | drdaz: | fairly recent I think |
| [12:02:32] | drdaz: | heh Dibblah said what I was thinking |
| [12:03:07] | Juski: | nuff said then |
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| [12:06:05] | Juski: | has that CITV channel launched yet? not got it in my freeview lineup... or has its name not changed from ITV NEWS on the muxes? |
| [12:06:48] | stuarta: | started last weekend |
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| [12:07:23] | Juski: | I'm not gonna risk scanning with 0.19 – was just curious as to why it hasn't automagically appeared |
| [12:07:44] | stuarta: | automagic appearing was turned off |
| [12:07:57] | Juski: | why? |
| [12:08:33] | Juski: | didn't see that in any changelog though |
| [12:08:38] | stuarta: | some places when the channels go off air, they get removed from the SDT & put back when they come back on |
| [12:08:50] | Juski: | so I can delete shopping channels etc & not have them come back? woohoo! |
| [12:08:55] | stuarta: | so channels would appear and disappear daily |
| [12:09:04] | Juski: | fucking HELL |
| [12:09:18] | stuarta: | causing havoc with guide data & scheduling |
| [12:09:20] | Juski: | that's not how it's supposed to work is it? |
| [12:09:50] | stuarta: | you would think not.... |
| [12:10:48] | Juski: | can't wait to see how well the TVanytime stuff doesn't work then |
| [12:11:28] | Juski: | tempted to back up my DB & try a scan |
| [12:12:07] | Juski: | nah it's not worth it |
| [12:12:30] | Peit|home: | hmm, channel surfing takes _ages_ wonder if its some mad long buffer on the hush pc |
| [12:12:33] | Juski: | cool that I can get rid of the shopping channels though |
| [12:12:43] | stuarta: | I just hide them. |
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| [12:12:47] | Juski: | (and not have them come back) |
| [12:13:36] | Juski: | I have a vendetta against shopping channels after one accidentally emptied £250 out of my bank account. note that I'd not even bought anything from them.. it was a debit card number screwup |
| [12:14:09] | stuarta: | I dislike them on principle... |
| [12:14:29] | Juski: | there's that too. one of my aunts has a house chock full of IdealWorld shite |
| [12:15:13] | Juski: | wanna help me buy some mux space for a paint-drying channel? |
| [12:15:21] | Juski: | make it PPV, we'll mint it |
| [12:15:37] | stuarta: | hehehe :) |
| [12:15:51] | Juski: | or a 'quiz' channel |
| [12:16:04] | Juski: | this hour's question is... "2 + 2 = ?" |
| [12:16:10] | Juski: | btw the answer is NOT four |
| [12:16:25] | stuarta: | how about 1 + 1 = ? |
| [12:16:41] | Peit|home: | a window? |
| [12:16:54] | Juski: | close... next caller |
| [12:16:57] | stuarta: | damn, someone knew the answer !!! |
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| [12:18:28] | Juski: | text your answer, followed by ROBMYASS to 07999187678 (texts cost £50 plus operator charges) |
| [12:19:02] | Peit|home: | 2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2 |
| [12:19:11] | Juski: | lol |
| [12:19:37] | Peit|home: | or 6 if your a physicist |
| [12:19:57] | Peit|home: | o.k. now i have that working, what the hell do i spend the restof the weekend doing |
| [12:20:00] | Juski: | I got home pissed one night & watched some of ITV's quiz thing.... you've got to hand it to the presenters – they're pretty good at filling in large amounts of time to order |
| [12:20:40] | Juski: | Peit|home: your next job is to install mythburn & get it working. that should keep you busy for a while |
| [12:20:58] | Peit|home: | why? i have a 3/4 TB storage system |
| [12:22:12] | Juski: | because it's _there_ ? ;-) |
| [12:22:41] | Peit|home: | is a signal strength of 74% and a snr of 4.7db good? |
| [12:23:14] | Juski: | I have about the same amount of storage but my wife wants to keep stuff like 'bad girls'. I considered buying DVD box sets to save me time until I saw the price |
| [12:23:58] | Peit|home: | /dev/hda1 77G 54G 20G 74% /mnt/mythtv |
| [12:24:04] | Peit|home: | 755G 701G 47G 94% /mnt/mythtv-data |
| [12:24:06] | Peit|home: | :) |
| [12:25:15] | Peit|home: | swmbo has been well trained to delete stuff once she's watched it |
| [12:25:27] | drdaz: | for the logs... I've found some code that shuts my DVD drive up good and proper: |
| [12:25:31] | drdaz: | http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0411.3/0812.html |
| [12:25:35] | Peit|home: | so it rarely makes if from /mnt/mythtv to /mnt/mythtv-data/ |
| [12:26:25] | Peit|home: | now, some easy way of automatically moving files from one to the other would be good |
| [12:26:46] | Peit|home: | saying that, there's enough network capacity between the two to write directly to the latter |
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| [12:36:40] | Chicago: | I've always had trouble with the channel icons. Can somebody help figure out howcome they're not showing up plesae. |
| [12:38:27] | dscoular: | I just add them direct to the channel table via mysql |
| [12:38:33] | Chicago: | my program guide was supposed to show the icons after i ran the mkiconmap script and then ran mythfilldatabase --import-icon-map --update-icon-map |
| [12:39:27] | dscoular: | select name,icon from channel; |
| [12:40:17] | dscoular: | icons aren't supported by the tv_grab_au grabber here in Australia... so I don't know about mkiconmap |
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| [12:41:26] | dscoular: | I just grabbed icons from the tv web sites and throw them in ~/.mythtv/logos |
| [12:42:36] | dscoular: | Then i do: update channel set icon="/home/mythtv/.mythtv/logos/sbs.png" where name="SBS DIGITAL 1"; |
| [12:42:48] | Juski: | search the users mailing list for lyngsat icon grabber ;-) |
| [12:43:35] | Chicago: | the mkiconmap script just dumps url files into my /tmp/icons directory. |
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| [12:45:54] | DMJC: | http://threebit.net/mail-archive/mythtv-users/msg06014.html |
| [12:46:15] | DMJC: | code to make mythtv generate thumbnails of videos by taking shots of the actual clips using mplayer |
| [12:46:30] | DMJC: | I can't make the main script work though |
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| [12:46:42] | DMJC: | despite editing in my paths and the database password |
| [12:46:45] | Juski: | Chicago: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . rch_type=AND |
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| [12:47:04] | Chicago: | Juski: thanks |
| [12:48:01] | Chicago: | I'm checkin out http://www.lyngsat.com/ to see what they have now... |
| [12:48:03] | Peit|home: | Dibblah: Out of intrest, what tv grab do you use for your sat channel? |
| [12:49:47] | drdaz: | anybody else finding that bookmarks in recordings dont work in 0.19-fixes? |
| [12:50:06] | DMJC: | any ideas? |
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| [13:05:46] | Chicago: | Well, I'm not using satellite tv...I'm on comcast in the US. I have some icons in /root/.mythtv/channels but where are they really supposed to go? |
| [13:09:57] | Hoxzer: | LOL LOL LOL DO WE OWN |
| [13:10:02] | Hoxzer: | ... |
| [13:10:27] | dscoular: | I dunno where they are "supposed" to go... but you can put any arbitrary full path in the channels table and it will work |
| [13:23:07] | Juski: | yeh dscoular is right – you can put icons anywhere you like – all you need to do is put the path to each icon in the channel table |
| [13:23:55] | Juski: | I've got mine in /usr/share/mythtv/icons – symlinked to images/icons in my mythweb directory |
| [13:25:31] | Chicago: | well then, I have /root/.mythtv/channels/cinemax.jpg in my channels table, and that file is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 921 Jun 29 2000 cinemax.jpg |
| [13:25:32] | Chicago: | ... so I'm wondering why the program guide isn't showing it... the mythtv user should be able to read it. |
| [13:25:41] | Juski: | I might even bother myself to get them working on my frontend at some point too |
| [13:25:53] | Chicago: | I guess the only other thing it could be is that the lineup doesn't know my channel 24 is cinemax |
| [13:25:58] | Juski: | (not that I use livetv)... |
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| [14:00:27] | stuarta: | bah, frontend seems to have a memory leak |
| [14:07:05] | Chicago: | Well, I managed to get a channel icon displayed... I used to remember the channel callsigns and channel names being pulled in by datadirect... but not anymore... does anybody else have this problem? |
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| [14:21:29] | Hoxzer: | does internal player support xvid videos? |
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| [14:33:37] | cout: | are there any python modules or modules for other scripting languages for writing mythtv plugins? |
| [14:33:50] | stuarta: | not at the moment |
| [14:33:53] | DMJC: | ok I'm almost getting this working |
| [14:34:06] | DMJC: | I've got mplayer spitting out an episode thumbnail |
| [14:35:04] | cout: | stuarta: was that to me? |
| [14:35:15] | stuarta: | yep |
| [14:35:25] | cout: | I might write one then. how big is the API? |
| [14:36:07] | stuarta: | dunno, but one of the devs has just started on perl bindings |
| [14:36:18] | cout: | ew |
| [14:36:41] | stuarta: | not entirely sure why but..... |
| [14:36:44] | cout: | I'm leaning toward ruby or python |
| [14:36:49] | DMJC: | can anyone tell me what's wrong with this? |
| [14:36:50] | DMJC: | http://pastebin.com/609044 |
| [14:37:01] | DMJC: | I've got mplayer generating thumbnails with the correct names now |
| [14:37:12] | DMJC: | if I'm right I just need to update the database |
| [14:38:34] | laga: | cout: i believe xris is writing some mythtv perl modules at the moment |
| [14:39:16] | DMJC: | http://pastebin.com/609051 |
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| [14:44:34] | ericmoritz : | hi, where does mythtv store the playlists? |
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| [14:52:32] | cout: | laga: is the source online somewhere? |
| [14:52:45] | stuarta: | cout: it's in svn |
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| [14:56:42] | laga: | scopeuk: the perl stuff? |
| [14:57:28] | laga: | err, sorry, i meant stuarta |
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| [14:57:59] | ericmoritz : | does anyone know where mythtv store the playlists? |
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| [15:08:45] | scopeuk: | laga few |
| [15:08:49] | ** scopeuk paniced for a second there ** | |
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| [15:10:41] | laga: | scopeuk: sorry ;) |
| [15:11:02] | scopeuk: | np |
| [15:11:04] | stuarta: | yes the perl stuff |
| [15:11:10] | scopeuk: | laga is toc2rta.com down for you? |
| [15:11:13] | scopeuk: | irc or the web server |
| [15:11:21] | scopeuk: | the oen on msn tv 2 |
| [15:11:25] | scopeuk: | whic hahs now ran myth btw |
| [15:12:22] | laga: | do they have a good X driver or is it still the fbdev stuff? |
| [15:12:36] | laga: | ericmoritz : uh, in the database somewhere? ;) |
| [15:12:46] | scopeuk: | its still fbdev stuff afaik |
| [15:12:59] | laga: | scopeuk: toc2rta.com is down for me |
| [15:12:59] | scopeuk: | when to cheack for updates today and i cant get on |
| [15:13:07] | scopeuk: | damn |
| [15:13:48] | scopeuk: | ok this is probably a stupid quetion but if i have all the user jobs turned off will stuff not rencode? |
| [15:14:51] | ** GreyFoxx has been happily playing movies on his msntv for the last couple days :) ** | |
| [15:15:10] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i saw you on the toc2rta forums ;) |
| [15:15:20] | scopeuk: | GreyFoxx can you not get ontothe irc server eiter |
| [15:15:25] | scopeuk: | was tring to remmeber the other user |
| [15:15:47] | GreyFoxx: | I discovered this morning that turning off certain leds also disables the IR keyboard until you turn the led back on :) |
| [15:15:50] | scopeuk: | yehmyth apparently runs but badly on the msn tv which is to be expected without acelerated drivers ect |
| [15:15:58] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [15:16:04] | GreyFoxx: | scopeuk: I'm on the irc server |
| [15:16:09] | GreyFoxx: | I never disconnect form it |
| [15:16:18] | GreyFoxx: | Myth runs fine |
| [15:16:27] | GreyFoxx: | the problem is if you have to scale whatever you are watching |
| [15:16:31] | GreyFoxx: | if you don't then all is well |
| [15:16:46] | scopeuk: | hmm |
| [15:17:02] | scopeuk: | so if you had your recordign box atthe right res then it shwhould be fine |
| [15:17:05] | GreyFoxx: | whichis where the accelerated drivers will come in |
| [15:17:15] | scopeuk: | think i need to invest in a dvb card with mprg |
| [15:17:19] | GreyFoxx: | scopeuk: Yes, I changed my recording res to 640x480 and they play perfectly |
| [15:17:37] | scopeuk: | nice |
| [15:17:43] | GreyFoxx: | and ripped movies and such all play perfectly |
| [15:17:50] | GreyFoxx: | at least on ones that don't require any scalling |
| [15:18:05] | scopeuk: | its prety cool |
| [15:18:21] | GreyFoxx: | I'm watching an xvid of The Incredibles on it right now :) |
| [15:18:26] | scopeuk: | theres been no progress on convertign box to pal yet has there |
| [15:18:28] | scopeuk: | ? |
| [15:18:32] | scopeuk: | ncie |
| [15:18:41] | scopeuk: | stream to it with vlc |
| [15:18:41] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know of anyone who has attempted it |
| [15:19:20] | GreyFoxx: | scopeuk: I suppose you could use vlc from another machine |
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| [15:26:02] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, I should test the overscan controls on this |
| [15:26:06] | GreyFoxx: | see how badly I break it |
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| [15:27:25] | imperfect-: | Hey |
| [15:27:27] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [15:27:33] | GreyFoxx: | There isn't |
| [15:27:49] | GreyFoxx: | Unless you count winmyth which is by all accounts flaky, and very lacking in features |
| [15:28:24] | scopeuk: | i cant even get win myth to work |
| [15:28:31] | imperfect-: | Anyone know if there is a mythtv front end? |
| [15:28:35] | imperfect-: | for windows? |
| [15:28:37] | scopeuk: | foudn ai hada spare monitor in the cupboard (well 3) id forgoten about |
| [15:28:40] | scopeuk: | so it now uses that |
| [15:28:41] | cwall658: | mythfrontend |
| [15:28:43] | GreyFoxx: | imperfect-: I was actually talking to you ther e:) |
| [15:28:51] | imperfect-: | GreyFoxx : hehe ;) |
| [15:28:51] | scopeuk: | suprised how well my little 433 copes |
| [15:29:34] | imperfect-: | damnit |
| [15:29:35] | imperfect-: | this sucks. |
| [15:29:43] | GreyFoxx: | I tried winmyth once years ago, but not since |
| [15:29:50] | imperfect-: | I've got an nvidia card that lets me output to my HDTV and my LCD at the saem time |
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| [15:30:03] | imperfect-: | under linux it tells me to go fuck myself |
| [15:30:24] | scopeuk: | imperfect- i knwo this can bedone nder fedora/nvidia drivers |
| [15:30:32] | scopeuk: | i last saw it done on fedor with my own eyes any way |
| [15:31:59] | cwall658: | I'm glad my problems are simpler. I just don't have sound on live tv. |
| [15:32:01] | GreyFoxx: | well, normally you just enable twinview to clone your output to multiple displays |
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| [15:33:58] | scopeuk: | grey where whould i find such an option? |
| [15:34:19] | scopeuk: | i wanna change the monitors on my dual boot to span |
| [15:34:34] | GreyFoxx: | youplay the options/values in your X config file |
| [15:35:14] | scopeuk: | oh god i dont liek tuchign that |
| [15:35:19] | scopeuk: | its like uke the fixings thing |
| [15:35:49] | GreyFoxx: | I've never looked at any gui config utils for it. I always do it by hand |
| [15:35:53] | stuarta: | just make a copy and then play |
| [15:36:03] | GreyFoxx: | exactly |
| [15:36:10] | GreyFoxx: | cp filename filename.bak |
| [15:36:12] | scopeuk: | then i have to fdn a way to put it back when i break it |
| [15:36:17] | scopeuk: | spose htere is init 2 |
| [15:36:22] | GreyFoxx: | cp filename.bak filename |
| [15:36:22] | scopeuk: | or single |
| [15:36:37] | stuarta: | you don't normally need to reboot |
| [15:36:45] | stuarta: | ctl-alt-f1 |
| [15:36:51] | scopeuk: | spose |
| [15:36:58] | scopeuk: | ill live i dont use it that much |
| [15:37:20] | DMJC: | SET @var_MOVIEID;=`title` FROM `videometadata` WHERE `coverfile` ='No Cover' LIMIT 1; |
| [15:37:28] | DMJC: | what is wrong with this syntax? |
| [15:38:00] | stuarta: | SET != SELECT |
| [15:38:26] | DMJC: | well what should I use? |
| [15:38:43] | stuarta: | what are you trying to achieve? |
| [15:39:12] | DMJC: | ok I'm querying my mythtv database, getting the first video entry that hasn't got a thumbnail file |
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| [15:39:37] | DMJC: | and I'm setting that title to the variable MOVIEID |
| [15:40:26] | GreyFoxx: | Well, if you are already getting the video entry and just want to update the entry usethe UPDATE sql command :) |
| [15:40:43] | GreyFoxx: | UPDATE table set column = "value" where CRITERIAHERE; |
| [15:40:50] | GreyFoxx: | or even |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | UPDATE table set column = "value",column2 ="value2" where CRITERIAHERE; |
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| [15:41:10] | DMJC: | UPDATE `videometadata` SET `coverfile` = @var_MOVIETHUMB WHERE `title` = @var_MOVIEID LIMIT 1; |
| [15:41:25] | stuarta: | that's the one |
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| [15:41:35] | GreyFoxx: | would "limit" actually work ther e? |
| [15:41:41] | DMJC: | I need to pull the title out of the database tho.. |
| [15:41:45] | stuarta: | that I'm not sure about... |
| [15:41:54] | DMJC: | limit appears to work |
| [15:42:06] | stuarta: | then do a select first |
| [15:42:06] | GreyFoxx: | DMJC: It makes no sense to limit an update |
| [15:42:09] | cwall658: | anyone else using a pvr150? Mostly curious. |
| [15:42:31] | DMJC: | i don't know why the update is limited |
| [15:43:10] | DMJC: | basically what the code is meant to do is search the db find a file without a thumbnail, generate a thumbnail then update the db |
| [15:43:15] | DMJC: | then repeat it again |
| [15:43:26] | DMJC: | until all the files have thumbnails |
| [15:43:40] | GreyFoxx: | you should not have to repeatedly select from the database |
| [15:43:45] | DMJC: | I have the thumbnail generation code done |
| [15:43:49] | GreyFoxx: | pull all entries with no coverfile at once |
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| [15:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | store them in an array, and process + update them one by one |
| [15:44:19] | stuarta: | does it generate the thumnail from the video? |
| [15:44:23] | DMJC: | yes |
| [15:45:00] | DMJC: | I know there is probably a very clean way to code this but atm I really just want it to work |
| [15:45:13] | DMJC: | I've got so much cpu/ram database queries aren't really an issue |
| [15:45:24] | DMJC: | X2 4400+ 2gb ram |
| [15:45:27] | stuarta: | do what greyfoxx said, it's the sensible way |
| [15:45:36] | DMJC: | yeah except I can't code in SQL |
| [15:45:41] | DMJC: | I've got no idea what I'm doing |
| [15:45:55] | DMJC: | I'm poking the code with a stick and so far it's been getting closer to working |
| [15:46:16] | stuarta: | is there a perl script glueing it all together??? |
| [15:46:19] | DMJC: | bash |
| [15:46:30] | DMJC: | http://threebit.net/mail-archive/mythtv-users/msg06014.html |
| [15:47:19] | GreyFoxx: | man, I love the picture quality on this thing |
| [15:47:34] | GreyFoxx: | once we have accelerated video drivers it's really gonna rock |
| [15:47:38] | jams: | mvp? |
| [15:48:04] | jams: | GreyFoxx- the mvp? |
| [15:48:12] | DMJC: | the second this thing starts spitting out images non stop I'm going to bed heh |
| [15:48:41] | GreyFoxx: | jams: The MVP is good too, but this is the little MSNTV2 settop box unit |
| [15:48:58] | DMJC: | got a twinhan here |
| [15:49:01] | GreyFoxx: | http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums/2006/03-05-MSNTV-MythTV& |
| [15:49:14] | DMJC: | the tv guide is totally screwed for australia |
| [15:49:23] | jams: | oh yeah forgot about those things |
| [15:49:28] | DMJC: | DVB guide? heh what's that lol |
| [15:49:33] | DMJC: | totally boned |
| [15:49:58] | stuarta: | you would still be able to get all the video and then go over them |
| [15:50:32] | jams: | should have picked on up at compusa when they were on the discount table |
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| [15:50:49] | Unicorn__: | hi all. Any 1 running on AMD64 able to use xine with greedy2frame? |
| [15:51:49] | jams: | GreyFoxx- was there a certain model number or was it any msntv2? |
| [15:52:20] | ** stuarta ponders why the frontend is using 541Mb ** | |
| [15:52:27] | GreyFoxx: | there was only 1 model of the MSNTV 2 |
| [15:52:29] | GreyFoxx: | RM4100 |
| [15:52:43] | GreyFoxx: | the MSNTV/RM2100 is not worthy :) |
| [15:52:52] | jams: | heh |
| [15:52:56] | jams: | thanks |
| [15:53:21] | alex777: | ok, I have a problem with nuvexport, I reencoded a bunch of my shows in xvid and just replaced the original .nuv files with the xvids so I would still have the meta info |
| [15:53:55] | alex777: | but now when I run nuvexport and I want to reencode a show, it's looking at all the eps, and it's finding some that are not mpeg complaint, since they're xvid |
| [15:53:59] | alex777: | and it just exits |
| [15:54:12] | alex777: | so I can't reencode newer eps :/ |
| [15:54:32] | Unicorn__: | any one used greedy2frame on an AMD64? |
| [15:56:09] | alex777: | any ways around that ? |
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| [16:05:31] | DMJC: | thank god |
| [16:05:38] | Peit|home: | ? |
| [16:05:39] | DMJC: | I got it working |
| [16:05:40] | DMJC: | muhahahaha |
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| [16:07:50] | Unicorn__: | I have a hda-intel card (Azalia), I cant use the "Master" control |
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| [16:10:48] | Unicorn__: | when using mythtv to play a video it complaine it can't find the Master mixer control |
| [16:10:57] | Unicorn__: | alhtoug sound ok in mythmusic |
| [16:15:19] | scopeuk: | amd64 issues chrot the program |
| [16:15:23] | scopeuk: | root* |
| [16:15:34] | scopeuk: | put it into a 32 bti enviroment ts a workaroudn but it works |
| [16:16:11] | ste__: | howdi all.. does anybody know where I can get my hands on the rpms for 0.18.1? |
| [16:16:37] | ste__: | pre-built I mean.. not the source |
| [16:17:20] | JohnnyST: | hi in mythtv-setup how do I delete the an "Transport" in the DVB transport editor? |
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| [16:23:52] | stuarta: | IIRC you press 'd' |
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| [16:29:07] | cwall658: | anyone got any quick guesses as to why I wouldn't have sound? |
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| [16:29:14] | cwall658: | livetv or otherwise. |
| [16:29:48] | stuarta: | stupid question #1, the sound output isn't muted is it? |
| [16:30:06] | cwall658: | nope, that's good |
| [16:30:15] | cwall658: | mplayer /dev/video0 works like a champ |
| [16:30:37] | cwall658: | if I want to grab right off the card that is. |
| [16:34:57] | DMJC: | OH YEAH |
| [16:35:01] | DMJC: | autogen thumbnails |
| [16:35:03] | DMJC: | FTW |
| [16:36:59] | scopeuk: | any way im off to swop some leads roudn bbl |
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| [16:46:26] | Puh: | is there any way to pass some custom path like /usr/lame/include for the configure script |
| [16:46:30] | Puh: | ? |
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| [16:47:06] | Puh: | --extra-cflags=-I/usr/lame/include doesn't help, i just get "You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile Myth." |
| [16:48:37] | cwall658: | Disabling Audio, reason is: Unable to set audio device (/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p) to 48000 kHz / 16 bits / 2 channels |
| [16:48:39] | cwall658: | HAH |
| [16:49:03] | cwall658: | Puh: -I is for include files |
| [16:49:17] | cwall658: | make sure you've run ldconfig -v |
| [16:49:21] | Puh: | i have |
| [16:49:26] | cwall658: | -L then |
| [16:49:31] | cwall658: | (iirc) |
| [16:49:35] | Puh: | but the configure script can't seem to find the headers |
| [16:49:59] | laga: | hack it? ;) |
| [16:50:06] | cwall658: | oh, misread you |
| [16:50:07] | Puh: | i have :) |
| [16:50:34] | cwall658: | Where's the part where I tell mythtv "my card sucks, don't go above 44k? |
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| [16:52:35] | laga: | cwall658: mythtv-setup |
| [16:52:53] | cwall658: | Hrm. I must have gone blindddd |
| [16:52:54] | cwall658: | okay. |
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| [16:56:17] | cwall658: | I wasn't. Weird. when I set up the pvr-X50 for capture I lose the ability to downsample |
| [16:57:26] | laga: | yeah, it's weird. i used to have the ability to record at 32000hz with my pvr 250, it's gone since 0.19 i believe. i've heard it'S still possible, you just can't select the value in the GUI anymore |
| [16:57:47] | cwall658: | Hrm. |
| [16:57:52] | cwall658: | So I have a choice |
| [16:57:57] | cwall658: | I can keep hacking at this |
| [16:57:57] | cwall658: | OR |
| [16:58:05] | cwall658: | I can buy a better sound card and po the wife |
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| [16:58:16] | cwall658: | I like the po option to be honest ;) |
| [16:59:11] | laga: | po the wife? |
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| [17:00:44] | cwall658: | piss off |
| [17:00:54] | cwall658: | not you JD heh |
| [17:01:30] | laga: | oh ;) |
| [17:02:07] | Juski: | re |
| [17:05:05] | eleazar123: | what settings to you guys use to get xorg to display on a tv? i have tvstandard, tvoutformat, and render accel enabled, but it keeps saying failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module (i've merged the latest version, and did modprobe nvidia), then it says screens found, but non have a useable config :( any ideas? |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | it needs to be able to initialize the kernel module properly before it can do anything. check dmesg for any pointers |
| [17:06:13] | eleazar123: | ah ok, thanks |
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| [17:06:43] | eleazar123: | hm.. "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. |
| [17:06:51] | laga: | that's normal |
| [17:07:04] | laga: | sounds like it loads properly into the kernel |
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| [17:07:20] | eleazar123: | ok, then after that it says, "NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0–6629 |
| [17:07:27] | eleazar123: | and that sounds good |
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| [17:13:32] | Juski: | eleazar123: have you changed the kernel since installing the nvidia drivers? |
| [17:14:03] | laga: | Juski: it wouldn't load anymore, would it? |
| [17:14:11] | Juski: | it's possible some of the driver is out of sync, but unlikely since the nvidia module loads |
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| [17:17:10] | eleazar123: | Juski, not that i know of, should i enable or disable something? |
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| [17:40:06] | styrmis: | Hey all |
| [17:45:16] | djohnson: | eleazar123: do you have an xorg.conf section for tvout? /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [17:46:03] | eleazar123: | well i have tvstandard, tvoutformat and render accel enabled in my xorg.conf but i don't have a specific section for it |
| [17:46:20] | Juski: | looks like we'll be watching the Uphill Gardener tonight |
| [17:48:16] | Juski: | eleazar123: pop your xorg.conf in a pastebin & we can take a look at it ;-) |
| [17:48:41] | djohnson: | what juski said. The device section also has to have a TVOUT standard and TVOUT format directive |
| [17:49:19] | Juski: | I can post my xorg.conf – it currently has TV out disabled but it's easy to see what to uncomment |
| [17:50:04] | eleazar123: | that'd be great, i'm running a geforce 5500, incase anybody has that specific card :) |
| [17:50:25] | eleazar123: | i'll paste mine into a pastebin just incase |
| [17:50:56] | Juski: | gets trickier if you want to use twinview though |
| [17:51:40] | eleazar123: | yeah i'm not planning on that, it'll only display on the tv |
| [17:53:14] | eleazar123: | http://pastebin.ca/46146 |
| [17:53:57] | Juski: | and mine: http://pastebin.com/609321 |
| [17:54:02] | djohnson: | Juski: Did you say you use XMBCMYTHTV? |
| [17:54:15] | Juski: | yes |
| [17:54:38] | Juski: | eleazar123: basically when I want TV out to work I just uncomment lines 311 – 314 |
| [17:55:20] | Juski: | djohnson: livetv & the programme guide are unreliable / not working, but for watching recorded shows it's ace :-) |
| [17:55:42] | djohnson: | Juski: Yah, I haven't gotten live tv to go, but it seems to be a known problem with a couple of solutions. I just haven't had the time to try them yet |
| [17:55:51] | eleazar123: | thanks Juski, i'll just copy yours over for the time being :) |
| [17:56:12] | djohnson: | But it's perfect for me for watching recorded vids. I'm going to make xbmc my dashboard for now |
| [17:56:18] | djohnson: | eleazar123: Probably not a good idea |
| [17:56:46] | eleazar123: | i guess i'll just compare'em then :) |
| [17:56:58] | djohnson: | and eleazar123 if you're on NTSC you have to change the PAL-I to NTSC-M (I think M for north america?) |
| [17:57:29] | eleazar123: | yeah, it's NTSC-M |
| [17:57:43] | eleazar123: | although it looks like i already have those things uncommented :( |
| [17:57:46] | eleazar123: | and i have mine to NTSC-M |
| [17:58:11] | djohnson: | anyhow, good luck. I've got to go |
| [17:59:13] | Juski: | gonna have to shower at some point soon – my hair is full of brick dust (nice) |
| [17:59:24] | laga: | shave it |
| [17:59:26] | laga: | ;) |
| [17:59:43] | Juski: | lol |
| [18:00:45] | Juski: | don't wanna accelerate baldness |
| [18:02:03] | meushi: | you won't accelerate it, you'll beat it :) |
| [18:02:47] | Juski: | shaving comes as the alternative to a comb-over... and I'm not that far gone yet |
| [18:02:49] | scopeuk: | heh id rarther be skin head than do a comb over |
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| [18:03:11] | Juski: | hiya Coume :-) how did the interview go? |
| [18:03:42] | Juski: | ooo I got voicemail |
| [18:04:37] | Juski: | the police want my DVR's hard drive... damn... or is that a good thing? |
| [18:04:58] | Coume: | Juski, went on great and pushed it as a saleman so manage to fix the next phone interview with the European Manager on Tuesday :) |
| [18:05:29] | Juski: | Coume: woooo! nice one |
| [18:05:37] | laga: | Juski: make sure to delete the porn |
| [18:05:45] | laga: | Coume: nice :) |
| [18:05:51] | Juski: | porn, on my DVR? I hope not |
| [18:06:39] | Coume: | hello Laga :) |
| [18:06:50] | Coume: | yeah really nice! I will do everything I can to get it :) |
| [18:08:18] | Juski: | well, time for eats & relaxing in front of the telly. been a day of hard graft |
| [18:10:55] | Coume: | eheh I am still felling bad from St Patrick and Friend birthday!! I need to recompile my kernel with HIGHMEM support and the Backend will have a new life! |
| [18:11:42] | laga: | did you just put 4gb ram into that backend? ;) |
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| [18:15:39] | Coume: | laga 2Gb and a P4 3Ghz :) so the Celeron 2.7 will be installed into a diskless pundit frontend |
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| [18:17:20] | laga: | Coume: nice setup ;) |
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| [18:18:36] | meushi: | Coume: a P4 630 by any chance? |
| [18:19:20] | Coume: | nop meushi |
| [18:19:32] | meushi: | just out of curiosity :) |
| [18:22:04] | Coume: | eheh no it's a socket 478 and 800 MHz |
| [18:23:33] | meushi: | ah ok |
| [18:24:05] | meushi: | I have a 630 here... currently migrating my backend after a week of weird stuff :) |
| [18:25:51] | Coume: | u got backend and frontend on the same or? |
| [18:26:20] | meushi: | no, my xbox is the frontend |
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| [18:28:38] | meushi: | yay! snooker time! |
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| [18:29:04] | meushi: | I'll be able to check if my channel/language changer script worked in 1 hour |
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| [18:35:22] | eleazar123: | argh i wish this would work! |
| [18:35:22] | ** eleazar123 cries ** | |
| [18:35:22] | eleazar123: | :P |
| [18:36:00] | eleazar123: | i tried merging the unstable nvidia drivers and now it's saying the nvidia drivers don't match the X drivers, does that mean i need to remerge X? or upgrade to xorg7.0? |
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| [18:36:42] | laga: | that's weird |
| [18:36:56] | laga: | unmerge the nvidia drivers and emerge them again |
| [18:37:16] | laga: | and run opengl-select or however it is called |
| [18:38:19] | eleazar123: | eselect opengl set nvidia :) |
| [18:38:23] | eleazar123: | ok, i'll try that now |
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| [18:50:09] | thebrasse: | Hello! I I have the Unichrome Pro chipset. Can someone tell me if it is enough to ./confogure --enable-xvmc-pro or if I have to ./configure --enable-xvmc --enable-xvmc-pro? |
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| [18:50:18] | eleazar123: | hm.. still didn't help :( |
| [18:51:03] | ** meushi scratches head ** | |
| [18:51:16] | meushi: | wtf... emerge rp-pppoe brings in X11??? |
| [18:53:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | thebrasse: just the -pro one, it should automatically set xvmc on if you set -pro on |
| [18:53:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | the output at the end when you run configure will confirm if it works or not. |
| [18:54:15] | eleazar123: | will mythtv run with xorg7.0? |
| [18:55:45] | quitte: | theres no reason it wouldnt |
| [18:55:52] | laga: | meushi: fix your use flags ;) |
| [18:56:26] | meushi: | laga: there's nothing related to X in it... "-KDE -GTK -gnome" the rest is all codecs support |
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| [18:58:28] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: You must have been feeling motivated yesterday. You're taking on a lot of tickets--including two of my extremely wordy ones (and, thanks, BTW). |
| [18:58:32] | thebrasse: | murdoch: hmm.. what is the correct out put? If I only specify --enable-xvmc-pro the configure script says 'XvMC support no', 'XvMC VLD support no', 'XvMC pro support yes'. If I specify both everything is set to yes and the libs is XvMCW.. |
| [18:59:28] | meushi: | laga: "a52 aac acl acpi alsa apache2 audiofile bash-completion cdparanoia cdr dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread ffmpeg flac imap innodb jabber kerberos ldap lm_sensors mad maildir matroska mcal mmx mp3 mpeg mysql nptl ogg pam pcntl pcre perl php png posix quicktime readline ruby samba sasl sharedmem sockets sse sse2 ssl symlink sysvipc theora threads v4l vcd vhosts vorbis win32codecs xine xml xvid zlib" see anything that would tell it to ad |
| [18:59:29] | meushi: | d x11 to rp-pppoe in there? |
| [19:00:48] | laga: | uh, read the ebuild, maybe? ;) |
| [19:04:25] | ** meushi reboots and fdisks the box ** | |
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| [19:05:16] | jd86: | ugh i'm getting pretty sick of myth just not working well. |
| [19:06:11] | GreyFoxx: | Then you should either consider trying to solve the issues and submit patches, or moveto another application |
| [19:07:12] | jd86: | its just a never ending thing that is extremely difficult to figure out whats wrong |
| [19:07:17] | jd86: | i don't know if its myth |
| [19:07:24] | jd86: | or just the combination of stuff i have |
| [19:07:27] | jd86: | i fix one thing |
| [19:07:30] | jd86: | and 2 more things break |
| [19:07:39] | Anduin: | Stop fixing things. |
| [19:07:43] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:07:47] | GreyFoxx: | That would be annoying :) |
| [19:07:51] | jd86: | and then do what? |
| [19:07:53] | jd86: | just not use it? |
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| [19:08:21] | jd86: | now |
| [19:08:31] | jd86: | for some raeson, sound isn't working and when i try to switch channels mythfrontend crashes |
| [19:08:54] | jd86: | then theres the horrible quality of my tuner, i don't know if i'm not using the right options for it with the modules (not myth's fault...) or what but there are staticy lines down it |
| [19:08:54] | dtm: | jd86: you might consider starting from scratch |
| [19:09:08] | jd86: | i'm sick of starting froms cratch with it over and over again... |
| [19:09:10] | dtm: | jd86: and start eliminating/swapping components one by one |
| [19:09:26] | jd86: | there is nothing to swap with, everything in that box is pretty much used only there |
| [19:09:54] | dtm: | well software components too.. make sure you can view video with another app |
| [19:09:57] | dtm: | like mplayer |
| [19:10:01] | jd86: | but i'll i'm getting fed up with is the fact that myth isn't cooperating, i know there might be hardware problems, but dealing with myth's is the problem |
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| [19:10:27] | jd86: | and once everything works, something spontenously breaks |
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| [19:11:15] | meushi: | jd86: out of curiousity, what card? |
| [19:11:57] | jd86: | i have a hauppague 250, which works quite well (but for some reason when i watch live tv it sticks me on another card.. w/e) and then two bttv cards (one is an ati wonder ve and the other a wintv) |
| [19:12:10] | jd86: | one of the bttv the sound just stopped working, and i can't switch channels |
| [19:12:23] | jd86: | the poor quality and lines might have to do with a tuner= option but i dont know |
| [19:12:33] | jd86: | i had it working for quite a while |
| [19:12:40] | meushi: | because I add weird issues with the pvr250 around 0.18.1 |
| [19:12:42] | jd86: | and the switching of channels just stoped working it crashes when i switch... |
| [19:12:49] | jd86: | well the 250 is working wonderously |
| [19:12:55] | meushi: | you're lucky :) |
| [19:13:09] | meushi: | I had to add a lot of stuff in an external tuning script |
| [19:13:40] | jd86: | well i'm pretty sick of this now. |
| [19:14:06] | d64: | hello.. has anyone had the problem with recordings that have been edited in mythtv (menu, edit recording) playing back weirdly using vlc? they are sort of slideshows of short bits of video |
| [19:14:09] | d64: | no audio either |
| [19:14:21] | d64: | recordings that haven't been tampered with are fine |
| [19:14:51] | meushi: | like "switch back to pal as I told you in the setup" and "use the europe-west channel list as I told you in the setup" |
| [19:15:49] | eleazar123: | just fyi guys, i fixed my error :) |
| [19:15:55] | eleazar123: | able to load xfce successfully now :D |
| [19:16:11] | jd86: | ooh exciting, one of my audio cards just died. |
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| [19:24:39] | d64: | also is there some usual reason why mythbackend keeps crashing all day even though it's not doing anything : |
| [19:26:48] | Anduin: | d64 – editing just adds cutpoints to a table. |
| [19:27:20] | Anduin: | d64 – Now if you transcode them after editing... well. |
| [19:27:34] | jd86: | wow now it works |
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| [19:27:38] | d64: | is there some way to start transcoding from the command line |
| [19:28:22] | d64: | because it seems to me that "begin transcoding" in the frontend doesn't do anything |
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| [19:28:33] | Anduin: | d64 – mythtranscode |
| [19:28:41] | d64: | thanks |
| [19:29:17] | d64: | huh, now it started it actually |
| [19:29:24] | d64: | can i paste two lines? |
| [19:30:05] | d64: | because it's saying "unkown video codec" of the file |
| [19:30:18] | d64: | funny as the file as such works fine when i try to view it in mythtv |
| [19:32:26] | d64: | same thing with another recording |
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| [19:39:11] | d64: | the error is here in case anyone might make any sense of it: http://pastebin.ca/46153 |
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| [19:39:34] | dtm: | to disable auto-expiration altogether do i uncheck "auto expire default"? |
| [19:39:50] | GreyFoxx: | in 0.19 ? |
| [19:39:55] | dtm: | yeah |
| [19:39:56] | GreyFoxx: | You can't totally disable it |
| [19:40:01] | dtm: | :-o |
| [19:40:04] | dtm: | how is that possible |
| [19:40:14] | GreyFoxx: | the closest would be to set the various shows and such to not be expirable |
| [19:40:22] | dtm: | GreyFoxx: how do i do that |
| [19:40:46] | mchou: | anyone here have the usb version of FusionHDTV? |
| [19:40:51] | Anduin: | dtm – edit their recording profile, you can also set new ones to default to off still (I think) |
| [19:40:56] | GreyFoxx: | Not positive off hand as I've never done it./ I have just seen many people mention it |
| [19:40:57] | dtm: | the description of "auto expire default" would seem to indicate that no new recordings with auto expire |
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| [19:41:04] | Como|Lappy: | there we go! |
| [19:41:33] | Como|Lappy: | anyone here use knoppmyth? |
| [19:41:47] | dtm: | Como|Lappy: there is #knoppmyth |
| [19:41:54] | Como|Lappy: | sweeet. |
| [19:42:12] | Como|Lappy: | its not detecting my tv tuner |
| [19:42:19] | Como|Lappy: | and im about to break this spacebar out |
| [19:42:40] | d64: | ok um is it normal that all values in the mythconverg "recordingprofiles" table are null? |
| [19:42:54] | d64: | videocodec and audiocodec are null on every line |
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| [19:52:54] | Coume: | erm... since I upgraded CPU and RAM, I sound became choppy :/ it played for 1–2sec and stops for 1–2sec... |
| [19:53:57] | mchou: | Coume: haha!! |
| [19:54:18] | mchou: | Coume: you musta done something wrong there. |
| [19:55:36] | laga: | maybe highmem support? ;) though i never heard of issues with that |
| [19:55:44] | Coume: | erm, just recompiled with HIGHMEM no other change... let me try to find out what is happening |
| [19:55:57] | laga: | prolly a broken cooling system and the cpu overheats |
| [19:56:12] | mchou: | or an inadequate PSU :) |
| [19:56:39] | mchou: | more juice :) |
| [19:57:54] | Coume: | ok so let unplugg everything and check everything... dman I think the St-Patrick day is not helping me to think well today :) |
| [19:58:42] | laga: | stop drinking ;) |
| [19:58:49] | mchou: | Coume: bah, I wouldnt bother unplugging everything. |
| [19:59:10] | mchou: | try just the older mem or 1 stick of mem first |
| [19:59:41] | mchou: | if that's still problematic then reseat the CPU/HSF...... |
| [20:00:08] | mchou: | nd if that still doesnt work, then unplug :) |
| [20:00:47] | mchou: | Coume: what cpu is it? |
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| [20:05:19] | Coume: | mchou, 3Ghz Pentium 4. I need to unplugg everything as I can't access the backend easily :/ |
| [20:08:32] | Coume: | ok got it |
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| [20:09:18] | Coume: | that's a prbl with the soundcard... don't ask me what but if I just plug on jack it is working fine... but with a back and front plug it is choppy |
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| [20:12:42] | Venzon: | any idea if there's a way to get myth to use an external channel changing program AND still have mythtv also do channel changing over firewire? it seems like when i set up the external program, mythtv decides not to do firewire channel changing |
| [20:13:47] | Juski: | Venzon: just make a script to do both, unless you need em to be independent |
| [20:14:08] | Venzon: | how can i script mythtv's firewire channel changing? i thought that was internal... |
| [20:14:27] | Venzon: | (i'm using firewire inputs from a cable box) |
| [20:14:50] | Juski: | I thought there were readily available scripts to do it |
| [20:15:14] | Venzon: | hmm, i'll check |
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| [20:28:12] | d64: | some forum postings suggest indeed those values should not be null |
| [20:28:20] | d64: | manually changed them in the db now |
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| [20:32:29] | d64: | ok that looks like a success |
| [20:32:49] | d64: | changed the values for the MPEG2 to "MPEG-4" and "MP3" and now it seems mythtranscode decided to run |
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| [20:33:52] | Venzon: | is there any way to get mythtv to run a command prior to starting to record (besides the channel changing command)? |
| [20:37:39] | Venzon: | ah, sure enough, mythtv includes channel changing apps in the contrib folder. gentoo threw them away, so i just had to download the new package. |
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| [20:43:29] | dooder: | I'm trying to find a link to pvr_2.0.24.23035.zip that isn't on the shspvr.com site |
| [20:45:20] | d64: | is there any way to stop mythfilldatabase from inserting "bogus" channels into my db? |
| [20:46:47] | d64: | deleting them using mythtv-setup doesn't seem to help, it will always re-add them |
| [20:48:18] | eleazar123: | hey guys what method would you suggest using if i'm trying to access my main linux desktop from my mythbox to stream movies to (like if i go to movies in mythtv it auto loads the files being shared by my linux box) |
| [20:52:09] | dooder: | eleazar123 : nfs or samba |
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| [20:58:11] | pyrotech: | does anyone know how to resolve ivtv missing firmware issues? |
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| [21:03:01] | benklop: | hello |
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| [21:04:03] | benklop: | how do i go about using a regular V4L card in the same box as a hauppage PVR card? it looks like the 2 different tuner modules don't contain the same tuners |
| [21:04:13] | Led-Hed: | can I mix Distros/Kernels as long as the MythTV version is the same? (0.19) |
| [21:04:23] | benklop: | Led-Hedyes |
| [21:04:26] | benklop: | Led-Hed yes |
| [21:04:39] | Led-Hed: | cool. thinking about trying out Ubuntu |
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| [21:05:35] | eiggirC: | where's a good place to get games for mythgame? |
| [21:06:29] | benklop: | eiggirC: by properly using wget, you can get them from just about any rom site pretty quickly, rather than having to clock around |
| [21:06:37] | benklop: | *click |
| [21:06:46] | Led-Hed: | If I use Ubuntu can I use Debian packages to install MythTv? and if so what is a good Repo to use? |
| [21:07:49] | benklop: | never used debian except for a quick play around with knoppmyth... |
| [21:08:12] | benklop: | Led-Hed you might be able to get the right packages from knoppmyth now that i think about it |
| [21:08:18] | benklop: | its debian based as well |
| [21:08:43] | meushi: | Led-Hed: the debian maintainer of myth has moved to ubuntu... and the packages are in multiverse IIRC |
| [21:09:08] | Led-Hed: | meushi, where can I find them? |
| [21:09:16] | benklop: | is there an ivtv IRC? |
| [21:09:32] | benklop: | its not at #ivtv... |
| [21:09:37] | eiggirC: | benklop: any URLs to suggsst? |
| [21:09:58] | meushi: | Led-Hed: just add multiverse at the end of your ubuntu sources |
| [21:10:18] | Led-Hed: | meushi, thanks |
| [21:11:40] | benklop: | cant find the url right now, |
| [21:11:44] | eiggirC: | okay thanks |
| [21:11:47] | eiggirC: | googling around now |
| [21:12:35] | meushi: | benklop: #ivtv-devel ? |
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| [21:13:12] | meushi: | benklop: nope, not that either... I recall it's on this server tho |
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| [21:13:35] | Hoxzer: | ./var/log/mythtv/ has many logs file which one is the latest? |
| [21:13:42] | Hoxzer: | *log files |
| [21:14:07] | meushi: | benklop: #ivtv-dev is a good start |
| [21:14:07] | Hoxzer: | hmmm... |
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| [21:15:38] | Led-Hed: | are there IVTV packages for Deb/Ubuntu? |
| [21:15:48] | sandos: | yes, unofficial ones |
| [21:16:01] | Led-Hed: | sandos, where can I find them? |
| [21:16:05] | sandos: | I think I got mine from the same repo that has some myth packages |
| [21:16:12] | sandos: | the repo is mentioned in the documentation for myth |
| [21:16:15] | Led-Hed: | sandos, ok cool. Thanks |
| [21:16:22] | sandos: | I dont know offhand and my mythbox is offline atm |
| [21:16:32] | Hoxzer: | guys? |
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| [21:17:00] | Led-Hed: | Hoxzer, some of us are. |
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| [21:18:17] | Hoxzer: | are what? |
| [21:18:21] | Hoxzer: | oh guys |
| [21:18:30] | Hoxzer: | Might be but Only might |
| [21:19:18] | Hoxzer: | But this is really strange as my computer doesn't record log files for some reason |
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| [21:19:30] | Hoxzer: | at least I can't see any errors before crash |
| [21:19:34] | meushi: | Hoxzer: do a 'ls -lart' in the dir... you'll know the latest |
| [21:20:27] | paugh: | hi. quick question: mythfilldatabase has been running for about an hour, is thrashing the disk and between it and iowait, it's using 100% cpu so that system has been largely useless since i started it. is this normal? |
| [21:20:49] | shiznix: | no |
| [21:20:56] | dtm: | paugh: is it mysql 4? |
| [21:21:14] | Hoxzer: | lol, they were last recorded six o'clock |
| [21:22:40] | Hoxzer: | Can I somehow specify log file for mythbackend? |
| [21:23:24] | pyrotech: | is anyone familiar with ivtv not finding the firmware modules? |
| [21:23:32] | Hoxzer: | ok, nongthing |
| [21:23:42] | dtm: | Hoxzer: -l /foo |
| [21:23:56] | Hoxzer: | yeah |
| [21:25:44] | paugh: | dtm, man mysql says version 5 |
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| [21:26:41] | paugh: | i installed it via apt on ubuntu when i noticed it was available, i was intending to build it before that. |
| [21:26:44] | dtm: | paugh: well mythtv doesn't work with mysql5, does it? |
| [21:26:54] | dtm: | unless you run it in mysql4 compatibility mode? |
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| [21:27:30] | paugh: | dtm, i have no idea. i didn't build it :) |
| [21:28:11] | dtm: | paugh: lol well who did |
| [21:28:23] | dtm: | paugh: ask google if mythtv supports mysql5 |
| [21:28:25] | paugh: | the ubuntu team i would imagine |
| [21:29:05] | paugh: | as long as it's not supposed to be like that then i'm happy to build it. |
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| [21:31:07] | Hoxzer: | Soon I will see how my backend crashes |
| [21:33:25] | Hoxzer: | so dance with mee |
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| [21:46:56] | paugh: | looks like i'll have to build from source. if i remove mysql5 or try to install mysql4, apt automatically removes all the mythtv packages. quite clever that. |
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| [21:47:53] | maestrotech: | HOLA! |
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| [21:48:01] | maestrotech: | unfortunately i'm back. |
| [21:48:19] | maestrotech: | i had a mishap with the mythlink.sh script. |
| [21:48:55] | maestrotech: | I accidently deleted a bunch of my library .NUV files, and I need to clean up my mythtv database. |
| [21:49:00] | maestrotech: | is there an easy way to do that? |
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| [22:00:55] | roger55: | maestrotech, http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Ho . . . t_on_disk.3F |
| [22:01:09] | roger55: | maestrotech, I believe that is what you want to do. |
| [22:03:06] | dtm: | maestrotech: ha the script i pasted you last night does that |
| [22:04:05] | dtm: | except it does it for you |
| [22:04:38] | dtm: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/uNHGfP93.html |
| [22:05:33] | dtm: | touching the files is ridiculous when all you want to do is delete them. also mythtv 0.18.1 wouldn't delete an empty file. you had to 'cat /dev/zero' or something. |
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| [22:06:44] | maestrotech: | i didn't want to delete them |
| [22:06:54] | maestrotech: | like i said, "it was an accident" |
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| [22:07:21] | dtm: | yeah i know. so if you were to touch them, you'd just do so in order to delete them one by one in the gui, which is inefficient. |
| [22:07:32] | dtm: | just delete them from the db directly, using my script |
| [22:07:37] | maestrotech: | now, i'm trying to clean up my mistake, seeing how ext3 doesn't have any undelete options. ::sigh :: |
| [22:08:03] | maestrotech: | dtm, that is true. |
| [22:08:08] | dtm: | mmhmm |
| [22:10:56] | makomk: | Gah – why does the Gentoo "debug" useflag seem to stop --logfile from having any effect? That's evil. |
| [22:15:36] | d64: | ok i've got the transcoding stuff working now mostly.. except that the recordings have the subtitles as a stream "Subtitle: dvbsub" which the transcoder discards as unknown |
| [22:15:46] | d64: | any clues as to how to fix that |
| [22:16:20] | d64: | i'm using the lossless setting atm |
| [22:16:33] | makomk: | join #mythtv |
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| [22:20:27] | d64: | holy crap |
| [22:20:45] | d64: | i just realized that now that the transcoding worked, mythtv overwrote the original recording with the transcoded one |
| [22:20:55] | d64: | the transcoded one doesn't have subtitles |
| [22:21:06] | d64: | so much for that recording then |
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| [22:24:58] | makomk: | d64: there's an option to disable that; mythtv-setup, "General settings". It's too late for that recording, but it should make testing a bit safer... |
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| [22:28:49] | d64: | makomk: thanks, i should have made a copy of the recordings before starting anyhow |
| [22:31:49] | d64: | now if i could only figure out how to make the subtitles survive the trancoding |
| [22:31:53] | scopeuk: | i cant belive i dident notice the crap picture qualit jsut after i mvoed my box |
| [22:31:56] | scopeuk: | made a recording |
| [22:32:06] | scopeuk: | of the rugby no less only to find ti was crap |
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| [22:45:51] | shiznix: | alrighty, for anyone getting the dreaded "Must mute right channel to get stereo sound" in latest Myth, here's a quick hack to workaround -> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10153 |
| [22:51:34] | eiggirC: | shiznix: thanks dude – thats fantastic |
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| [22:57:57] | makomk: | Ah, I was wondering what was causing that – nice. |
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| [23:04:49] | FunkyELF: | so what is the word on MythTV and the intel macs?....do they work together yet? |
| [23:05:22] | meushi: | gnite |
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| [23:07:50] | ShockValue: | hi all.. i just got my hd3000, and im pretty close to getting it going (i think.) if i scan for channels as root, it works ok, but if I try it as my mythtv user, it gives me an access denied error.. not sure what i need to do to properly fix this |
| [23:08:03] | ShockValue: | any thoughts? |
| [23:08:24] | ShockValue: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 212, 4 Mar 18 00:19 demux0 |
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| [23:10:31] | maestrotech: | hmm, now i have to remove all these random 0 byte files. |
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| [23:25:43] | AngryElf: | has anyone here set up a serial ir receiver and used irrecord to create their own conf file? |
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| [23:48:14] | FunkyELF: | so what is the word on MythTV and the intel macs?....do they work together yet? |
| [23:49:26] | mchou: | hehe.... |
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| [23:51:30] | mchou: | FunkyELF: what instruction set do the intel macs support? |
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| [23:55:50] | dtm: | mchou: whaaaat? how about intel instructions |
| [23:56:36] | eiggirC: | funkelf: you fund the programmers an intel mac each and give them six months to do it. |
| [23:56:39] | eiggirC: | :) |
| [23:57:03] | dtm: | prolly take the toolchain closer to 30 minutes |
| [23:57:09] | mchou: | eiggirC: umm, why?? |
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| [23:58:09] | mchou: | dtm: does linux support booting from "open firmware" or whatever? |
| [23:58:33] | dtm: | lol virtually every OS in history other than Windows does |
| [23:58:43] | mchou: | iirc that was a stumbling point for windows :) |
| [23:58:46] | dtm: | intel macs use EFI though. no idea why. |
| [23:59:07] | mchou: | yeah, EFI is what I meant, not open firmware |
| [23:59:10] | dtm: | windows has been ported to OF at some point, when it ran on alpha and ppc, but oh well. |
| [23:59:29] | dtm: | i know absolutely nothing about EFI... no idea why they're using it instead of OF. |
| [23:59:38] | dtm: | seems crazylike to me |
| [23:59:39] | mchou: | dtm: cause Jobs did want the intel mac to become windows? |
| [23:59:49] | eiggirC: | dtm: no – I had an alpha with that srm bios... you had to have a different bios to run a unix |
| [23:59:50] | mchou: | didnt* |
| [23:59:57] | dtm: | eiggirC: oh that's right. srm |
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