Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, March 11th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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xris:

Ryushin: many of us aren't at home

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Ryushin:

xris: I know. Maybe later I'll be able to find out more after US developers get home.

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Ryushin:

xris: Any idea when you last updated that it compiled clean? What version what that?

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xris:

I'm running svn from last night with little trouble

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xris:

not about to upgrade tonight, though. my wife would kill me if I messed up and missed the bsg finale

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Ryushin:

Could you tell me what version you are running if you're able to connect?

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Ryushin:

Yea, I'll need to record BSG as well.

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kormoc:

xris, another point against netflix for now, I have too much stuff to catch up on

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Ryushin:

Guess I have less then 3 hours to get working. :)

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SlicerDicer-:

hmm does anybody ahve issues with firewire being intermittent?

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SlicerDicer-:

capture by firewire sometimes it takes me 3–4 times to try to switch the input before it works

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Ryushin:

What's wrong with this syntax to check out an older version of svn "svn co -r 9300"

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kormoc:

you need the path of the repo?

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kormoc:

"svn co -r 9300 http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv" perhaps?

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Ryushin:

I'm doing it in the directory that I've done it before. svn info, svn update, etc.

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kormoc:

svn ci doesn't check what dir your in iirc

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kormoc:

due to it being a fresh checkout

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Ryushin:

Really? I vaugly remember being able to do it. I'll try it your way.

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Ryushin:

Is anyone using distcc to compile mythtv?

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kormoc:

Ryushin, so did that work?

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Agrajag-_:

hey any australians about? any ideas why the ninemsn guide only has channel 9 and abc?

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Ryushin:

kormoc: yea, it did. Thanks.

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sphery:

Anyone here running SVN?

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sphery:

If so, I've got a very quick question...

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sphery:

(Just looking for observations--not technical info.)

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sphery:

Guess I scared everyone away... ;)

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DartmanX2:

question: will upgrading to lirc-0.8.0 help with recognizing the wacky PVR-150 remote?

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Ryushin:

sphery: Yea, I'm running SVN.

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Ryushin:

Trying to get the latest version to compile right now.

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sphery:

So, have you tried mythtv-setup running locally (not via ssh/VNC) since the mythui change-over?

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sphery:

On mine, mythfrontend is snappy and quick, but mythtv-setup took about 5 minutes to render a single 25-frame "fade-in" animation...

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FairWtns:

Yup yup.

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sphery:

Just wondering if that's true of everyone's mythtv-setup before I ask Isaac about it...

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sphery:

Yup yup, slow?

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kormoc:

sphery, mine does that on 0.19 and 0.19 fixes as well

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Ryushin:

sphery: sorry, I have not run setup for a few weeks.

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sphery:

kormoc: You're seeing it on 0.19 (not SVN)?

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kormoc:

well, it takes a long time, aye, not sure if it's fade in related or not

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sphery:

0.19 doesn't do the fade, but someone had reported a slow mythtv-setup, so it may just be that the fade-in makes it far more noticeable...

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sphery:

Guess I won't say anything until I can diagnose a bit.

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kormoc:

it takes about 30 to 90 seconds for myth setup to launch on mine

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sphery:

I'd hate to blame Isaac's new mythui code if that's not causing it. :)

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sphery:

That's about how long it takes to get the first frame of the animation in SVN, so it's probably a painting problem in mythtv-setup made worse because the new mythui stuff paints 25-frames of animation...

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sphery:

Thanks for the info, though (everyone).

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sphery:

Will make it easier to start looking for the cause.

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kormoc:

heh, your welcome

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Ryushin:

Well, it looks like SVN revision 9300 is compiling okay.

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sphery:

Ryushin: cool.

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sphery:

I think I'm on 9302.

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sphery:

Lovin' it.

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Ryushin:

In fact, it just finished. 9320 does not compile cleanly.

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FairWtns:

I just want good output on my semi-hdtv. And more water so's I don't get unsober so fast.

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sphery:

I can say that 9302 works... :)

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Ryushin:

Now it times to play with XvMC and chromakey again.

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Ryushin:

Oh, that's nice, sorceforge is down. So much for getting the latest lirc.

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sphery:

That's what's happening...

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sphery:

I was trying to get to the CVS web interface for LIRC to check out the changelog for DartmanX2 and he left before I got any response from the CVS server.

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Ryushin:

sphery: Do you have a .8 tar ball?

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sphery:

No. Sorry.

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sphery:

My latest is 0.7.1

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sphery:

(I'm old-school.)

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Ryushin:

Crap. In my haste, I nuked my .8pre4 directory.

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sphery:

Looks like they're back up again.

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timekllr:

so i'm pretty much starting from scratch on my myth setup and can't fetch channel lineup from zap2it – wodering if this is also affecting mythfilldatabase ?

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sphery:

I just d/l'ed 0.8.0

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timekllr:

has anyone else seen this ?

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xris:

timekllr: probably

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kormoc:

Ryushin, sphery, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/lirc-0.8.0.tar.bz2

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sphery:

thx, kormoc

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kormoc:

ooh, hehe, too slow :P

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timekllr:

haven't been able to fetch lineups since at least yesterday

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timekllr:

keep getting this:

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Ryushin:

kromoc: Mucho gracias.

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timekllr:

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized

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timekllr:

Unknown authentication scheme.

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timekllr:

Authorization failed.

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timekllr:

but i can log into the web interface and edit my channel lineup :(

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xris:

timekllr: you'll always get that at least once

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sphery:

timekllr: can you post the output of mythtv-setup in http://www.pastebin.com/ and send the URL it gives you?

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timekllr:

ok – hang on

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kormoc:

Ryushin, sphery, if you guys get it from me, let me know how fast it's sending it your way please.

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Ryushin:

Already got it. Only took about 15 seconds.

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sphery:

I got it from SF just before you got your link up.

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timekllr:

http://pastebin.com/595603

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timekllr:

same thing every time

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timekllr:

but i know the password is right

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Ryushin:

kormoc: 18:10:37 (84.98 KB/s) – `lirc-0.8.0.tar.bz2' saved [514359/514359]

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kormoc:

sweet

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sphery:

timekllr: Does your wget have https support?

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Ryushin:

kormoc: That's about the same speed on see on my DSL. Is that what you have as well?

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kormoc:

yeah, that's about the speed I was hopeing for :)

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Ryushin:

Not bad to pay $100 a month to have 7 Mb down, 864 Kb up, and a /29 of IP's.

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sphery:

timekllr: If you don't know, try running

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sphery:

wget --help | grep 'HTTPS (SSL) options'

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timekllr:

sphery: son of a bitch

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kormoc:

Ryushin, I'm paying $45 a month for 8Mb down 768 Kb up :)

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timekllr:

must have re-emerged without ssl when i did an update world

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kormoc:

timekllr, /usr/portage/package.use is grand :)

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sphery:

Actually, it might not be using https...

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Ryushin:

kormoc: Better than my deal. Though it costs me $25 a month for my IP space.

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sphery:

One sec.

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Ryushin:

But I can't complain, really.

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timekllr:

just re-emerged with ssl and it worked

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sphery:

Oh.

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kormoc:

sphery, it does require ssl

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sphery:

Cool.

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** kormoc pokes Cardoe **

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timekllr:

thanks (and sorry for the stupidity)

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sphery:

I'm smarter than I thought. :)

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kormoc:

should add that check into the ebuild! :)

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timekllr:

i'm usually better than that :)

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sphery:

Sometimes it just takes another pair of eyes...

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timekllr:

sphery: that's very true

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rsquared:

aha!

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rsquared:

i now know why i had all these strange recordings

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rsquared:

i think it's cuz i fell asleep w/the tv on and the buffer got converted to seperate recordings

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Ryushin:

Crap, XvMC is still not working.

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rsquared:

heh

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rsquared:

that's why i upgraded my computer

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shiznix:

Cardoe: thanks for the help last night with the no audio problem

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shiznix:

recreating the database fixed the problem :)

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Ryushin:

Is anyone using SVN, doing HD, and using XvMC?

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rsquared:

i'm just doin HD w/0.19 9163

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rsquared:

no xvmc

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rsquared:

cuz my computer's actually fast enough

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Ryushin:

what is your cpu running during HD playback?

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Ryushin:

Also, what is your CPU?

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rsquared:

Intel Pentium D 830 – 3.0Ghz dual core 64 bit

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rsquared:

umm.. not sure what it runs

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rsquared:

i think around 30 or so

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rsquared:

i could be wrong

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k-man:

whats a good theme for mythtv?

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Ryushin:

k. I'm running a little sempron 64 running at 2 ghz. But I haven't been able to XvMC to work since 18.1

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rsquared:

xvmc never worked properly for me

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k-man:

what is xvmc?

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rsquared:

lol.. i think mr magoo is at the nursing home on drawn together

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rsquared:

XvMC X-Video Motion Compensation (an extension to X11 that handles full motion video)

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Ryushin:

libmpeg2 is using less cpu than xvmc right now. Something is seriously wrong.

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shiznix:

not really, just confirms what a lot of other people experience with xvmc

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shiznix:

xvmc is supposed to use less cpu, but actually slows things down

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xris:

ok, for some reason I can no longer edit any tv shows

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xris:

meaning, the E key doesn't work

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briand:

hmm

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rsquared:

xris: i figured out the random recordings

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xris:

rsquared: oh?

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rsquared:

live tv buffer

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rsquared:

i guess it got auto transcoded to recordings

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rsquared:

but i don't know where to find them in the frontend

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Cromz:

xris, silly question but do you have osd working? cause the default didn't work for me. I had to select a differant one.

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Cromz:

rsquared, hmm you have to change groups.

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Cromz:

recording groups.

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rsquared:

ah

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rsquared:

i'll look into that over the weekend

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xris:

Cromz: dunno. I don't watch livetv

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rsquared:

anyhizzle... thanks.. i'm off work now, so i'm outta here

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rsquared:

haha

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Cromz:

in the settings for tv I added to show all including livetv recordings.

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rsquared:

oh cool

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rsquared:

later folks.. have a good weekend

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Cromz:

xris, the default didnt' work for me or a co-worker who just started running myth.

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Cromz:

rsquared, c'ya

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Caveman:

are their any good guides for transfering from PATA to SATA drive for my primary drive?

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Caveman:

i have confirmed SATA is working in kernel

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Cromz:

Caveman, should be the same has moving it from one pata to another pata. I dont know of any guides tho.. I normally just copy everything off and reisntall ;)

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timekllr:

i have a feeling this one is going to be stupid, but here it goes:

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timekllr:

2006-03–10 21:16:45.252 EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo

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timekllr:

wtf ?

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Cromz:

hmm what's the from?

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timekllr:

my mythfrontend log

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timekllr:

trying to enter live tv

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_athen:

is any1 with a dvb (FF card) setup around?

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timekllr:

actually, the line before it looks pertinent as well:

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timekllr:

2006-03–10 21:19:12.450 GetEntryAt(-1) failed.

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timekllr:

2006-03–10 21:19:12.451 EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo

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Caveman:

Cromz : copy data, change grub anything else?

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Caveman:

then expand the partitions as i have a larger drive

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_athen:

Caveman: be carefull to preserve file permision on cp (-p)

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Caveman:

im guessing i will just use dd, that should copy permissions if im not mistaken?

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_athen:

dd copy bits no logical infos (eg:files)..so no concerns regarding permisions if u use dd

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Caveman:

ta

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Laggy_McGee:

So, my compile freezes on dsputil.c... Anyone have any idea why?

[02:36:00]

achew22:

is there a way to add a job that will cut commercials?

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kormoc:

achew22, I have a job that auto imports the flagged commericials into the cut list

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achew22:

cool — will it transcode after that?

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kormoc:

my job doesn't, no

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achew22:

shucks

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achew22:

can I see that for refrence

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achew22:

maybe i will figure out the syntax for mythtranscode

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kormoc:

sure, one minute

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kormoc:

/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c HANID% --gencutlist

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kormoc:

erm

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kormoc:

bad paste

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kormoc:

/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c HANID% --gencutlist

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kormoc:

hrm

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kormoc:

/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c %CHANID% --gencutlist

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kormoc:

there we go

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kormoc:

the % C was being considered a color code

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achew22:

ohh

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marmoset:

I think I'm just overlooking the obvious, but how do I import a channels.conf in .19?

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Captain_Murdoch:

he should run mythcommflag --gencutlist from a script then insert an entry into the jobqueue table to cut the commercials.

[03:09:27]

kormoc:

Captain_Murdoch, couldn't he do both via the user jobs?

[03:09:50]

Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, but if a wrapper script does both it's just one job.

[03:09:59]

Captain_Murdoch:

one job that queues another

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kormoc:

fair nuff

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Captain_Murdoch:

of course if he runs the --gencutlist then just runs the regular transcode job it will apply the new cutlist anyway.

[03:14:11]

marmoset:

n/m, found it

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kormoc:

Captain_Murdoch, btw, if I didn't mention it the other night, thank you very much for that job command line, it's working perfectly :)

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Captain_Murdoch:

to queue a transcode and apply the cutlist, use the following SQL: insert into jobqueue (chanid, starttime, inserttime, type, status, statustime, hostname, args, comment, flags ) values ( your_chanid, your_starttime, now(), 1, 1, now(), "", "", "", 1);

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Captain_Murdoch:

yw

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achew22:

Captain_Murdoch if I run that what will it do?

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Captain_Murdoch:

it will schedule a transcoding job to apply the cutlist to the recording for the chanid/starttime you gave.

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achew22:

okay — is there a way to run a job that will do that after it finds the commercials

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marmoset:

hmm, no luck even when importing channels.conf, hdtv can be a bear :)

[03:22:33]

achew22:

yummy... bear...

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achew22:

ohh wait thats beer

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achew22:

different thign

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marmoset:

haha

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marmoset:

close

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Captain_Murdoch:

if you don't mind queueing 2 jobs, you can just queue your user job then a normal transcoding job and the transcoding job will apply the cutlist (user-initiated transcoding jobs apply the cutlist, automatic transcoding jobs do not).

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achew22:

okay — so if I define job one as "/usr/bin/mythcommflag -s %STARTTIME% -c % CHANID% --gencutlist" then it will run after it flags commercials but before it transcodes?

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Captain_Murdoch:

or you can put your mythcommflag --gencutlist into a shell script and then echo that SQL code through mysql to queue the transcoding job after you call mythcommflag. so essentially your user job would be queueing up a transcoding job.

[03:24:33]

achew22:

I would rather not have it transcode all jobs so I think your solution is better

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achew22:

how do you do that sql instert from batch

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Captain_Murdoch:

no, unfortunately you can't control the order of jobs other than commercial flagging before or after transcoding. user jobs always come last if they are automatic jobs. If you queue jobs manually, they are processed in the order they were queued.

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Captain_Murdoch:

do you now how to write a shell script?

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achew22:

no

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achew22:

just write it in nano or pico or vi then save as filename.sh then run as sudo sh scriptnameandlocation

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Captain_Murdoch:

hold a sec and I'll pastebin something simple that will do it.

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achew22:

okay — thankyou

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achew22:

Captain_Murdoch I hope your getting the big bucks from god to do this ;)

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Captain_Murdoch:

http://pastebin.com/595741

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Captain_Murdoch:

save that to a file and call it as a userjob like this: my_script_name.sh HANID% \%STARTTIME%

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achew22:

so save that as a sh script

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Captain_Murdoch:

dohh, what is it 2 % signs?

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Captain_Murdoch:

save that to a file and call it as a userjob like this: my_script_name.sh %CHANID% %STARTTIME%

[03:36:03]

Captain_Murdoch:

yeah

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achew22:

okay... so will that import the cutlist too?

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Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, it has the --gencutlist in it.

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achew22:

thankyou...

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achew22:

what folder should I put it?

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Captain_Murdoch:

doesn't matter, whever you installed the binaries for myth. you might need to add the complete path to mythcommflag depending on how your mythbackend start script is setup if it doesn't have mythcommflag in the path.

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achew22:

is there an easy way to find the binaries?

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Captain_Murdoch:

"which mythcommflag"

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UBL:

2006-03–10 17:36:42.704 WriteAudio: buffer underrun

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UBL:

*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x088c5aa8 ***

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UBL:

someone know what these errors mean?

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UBL:

they are from mythfrontend

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Beirdo:

Code upgrade :)

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Ryushin:

Okay, time to work on XvMC some more. What is the wording that is in the frontend logging that says the XvMC is activated and working?

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UBL:

code upgrade? i'm using 0.18.1 but never had these problems before. i'm currently upgrading to 0.19

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kormoc:

UBL, code update of the bot, hence why the bot restarted

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kormoc:

UBL, your error is due to a bug somewhere in the code

[04:02:35]

UBL:

i was also just browsing the install guide and it says do not use reiserfs v3, why? i am using that now with mythtv 0.18.1

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Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v MythLogBot

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kormoc:

UBL, which guide?

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UBL:

http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall

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kormoc:

likely due to reiserfs being considered unstable

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Captain_Murdoch:

xris, you around?

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kormoc:

Captain_Murdoch, he's not, scifi friday :P

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marmoset:

anyone ever used the channels.conf import thing in .19? It's just not picking up anything for me.

[04:05:13]

Captain_Murdoch:

he's replying to emails though. :)

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kormoc:

heh, he left awhile ago :P

[04:05:26]

Captain_Murdoch:

and playing with his DVB card with his dishnetwork antenna it appears

[04:05:57]

Captain_Murdoch:

I don't have a clue when some of my shows come on, I have them set to "any time any channel" and watch them when I feel like it. :)

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kormoc:

he might be on his wife's laptop then

[04:06:36]

dylan_:

marmoset, I've successfully imported a channels.conf, it worked fine for me the first time

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dylan_:

maybe you have syntax problems with your channels.conf

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Captain_Murdoch:

I've got Dishnetwork also and a few spare dishes and have seen DVB-S cards for $50 so I thought about playing around with one like he is doing and was curious what card he was using.

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marmoset:

dylan_: hmm, it's possible I do, it works fine using azap to tune it though

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kormoc:

Captain_Murdoch, http://www.cyberestore.com/product_info.php?c . . . oducts_id=77

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kormoc:

Captain_Murdoch, that's the one I believe, with the butt ugly remote

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dylan_:

i can send you mine if you want to check it out, although i have no idea how to do that

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Captain_Murdoch:

sorry, one I saw was $59.99, not $50. :) http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=1025&cat=CON

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Captain_Murdoch:

oh well, off to watch something....

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** kormoc waves **

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marmoset:

dylan_: if you could just /msg me the first line of your channels.conf that'd be cool

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Ryushin:

In SVN there is the new fad effect between menus. Is it possible to disable this?

[04:19:30]

Ryushin:

fade effect.

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kormoc:

sure is

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kormoc:

disable opengl painting

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Ryushin:

kormoc: Where is that setting done. In the configure?

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brick-:

anyone ever seen this error when first loading mythbackend Channel(/dev/video0)::SetColourAttribute(): failed to set controls, error: No such device

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brick-:

I see the same error when trying to watch live tv

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brick-:

its a hauppage pvr150

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marmoset:

sweet, got hd working, now I'll just have to figure out how to get enough CPU to play it

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dylan_:

so you fixed the channels.conf marmoset?

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Cardoe:

shiznix: no prob

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brick-:

its not a permision problem

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brick-:

could it be a ivtv firmware mismatch or something?

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brick-:

is there anyway to tell wether its loading the kernel firmware or the one supplied with ivtv?

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Ryushin:

Well, finally got xvmc working. Now I'm trying to fix the dreaded "prebuffer pauses". Oh joy.

[05:21:27]

Caveman:

can anyone give me a rough idea on how long a dd of a 80Gb HDD will take

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k-man:

for some reason, in 0.19, in the epg, the channel names on the left hand side don't line up properly with the channel rows

[05:25:15]

k-man:

anyone else have that problem

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Ryushin:

caveman: What is the rpm of the drive?

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Caveman:

Ryushin: just a 7200

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Ryushin:

Are you DD'ing over the network or to another drive?

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Caveman:

another drive

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Ryushin:

Are you compressing the data? And if so, which engine are you using?

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Caveman:

nah just a straight dd

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Ryushin:

You will probably do about a GB a minute then.

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Caveman:

sweet, ta

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brick-:

Could it be something wrong with the `uname -r` kmdl part?

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brick-:

does ivtv have a channel?

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brick-:

anyone know?

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xanderp:

having a remote control problem i'd appreciate help with. I can get my remote to reply using irw and it spits out the correct key names. i have those keynames mapped in the .mythtv/lircrc file. when i launch the mythfrontend and hit keys nothing happens. is there a mythfrontend -verbose or something i can use to see if it is having problems?

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k-man:

xanderp, i think actually the option you want is in lirc

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k-man:

lirc has a way of watching which clients connect and what happens iirc

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xanderp:

i just found the -v and i don't see anything from mythfrontend. can i do a lircd -v or something to get that?

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k-man:

xanderp, i think you need lircd -n

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k-man:

which starts it in no deamon mode

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k-man:

then you can see whats happenign with lircd

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k-man:

and you should see mythtv connect to lircd when you star mythtv

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k-man:

when you start the front end that is

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xanderp:

thanks... i think i found it. a couple of keys ARE working. i wonder if the lircrc file i'm using has typos (downloaded it)

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k-man:

that could be it

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k-man:

not sure

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adante:

ahoy aussies

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adante:

does anybody know whats going on with tvguide.ninemsn? did they stopp showing brisbane?

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hello_man:

guys.. I got mythtv compiled using

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hello_man:

Debian.

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hello_man:

Build-dependencies for MythTV can be satisfied by adding the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list

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hello_man:

# Christian Marillat's packages (mplayer, lame)

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hello_man:

deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

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hello_man:

deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

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hello_man:

and executing:

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hello_man:

# apt-get build-dep mythtv

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hello_man:

# apt-get source mythtv --compile

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hello_man:

now do I need to get anything.

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hello_man:

it generated a lot of .deb packages

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hello_man:

anybody

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shiznix:

adante: seems that way

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shiznix:

i use http://au.tv.yahoo.com/

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shiznix:

which just so happens to also have Brisbane's guide

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phar0e:

australia rules!!!

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malaTG:

I everyone! I am building a completly new system next week and I have a couple of questions.... Anyone up for the task :-)

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phar0e:

me!

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malaTG:

hehe ok

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phar0e:

jag aelskar dig :D

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phar0e:

please ask in swedish

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malaTG:

first of all can I move my recordings and the database?

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malaTG:

ok

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malaTG:

kan jag flytta min inspelningar och databasen

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phar0e:

yes

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malaTG:

ok Ã¤r det trickigt?

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phar0e:

same version of mythtv?

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malaTG:

yes

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phar0e:

no tricks, very simple

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malaTG:

0.19 => 0.19

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malaTG:

ok

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malaTG:

ok and now the tricky question. One reason for changing system is to increase harddisk space can I have recordins on several disks without using LVM?

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phar0e:

hmm

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adante:

shiznix: what tv_grab are you using?

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phar0e:

well you have to specify where to store recordings, I haven't heard of anyone wanting to specify multiple locations

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malaTG:

no one location but sevreal disks

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malaTG:

but I don't want to use LVM if I have to remove recordings

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malaTG:

remove a disk I mean*

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Beirdo:

why not?

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adante:

malaTG: this is probably not much 'better' than lvm, but unionfs might be able to do it

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malaTG:

what if one disk crashes

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shiznix:

adante: an old version of tv_grab_au

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adante:

shiznix: any chance you can send it my way?

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malaTG:

doesn't all the recordings go to.......

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malaTG:

?

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adante:

if thats re unionfs... i have no idea :]

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shiznix:

sure, hold on let me find it

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Beyondhelp:

umm what's a good command line for snes9x under myth ?

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malaTG:

Beirdo : Say I want to build another system in the future...? It fells like it would be hard to preserve recordings if I use LVM?

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Beirdo:

not at all

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malaTG:

can I keep the recorings on the disks and move them into my new system even say if my disto is on one of them?

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Beirdo:

umm

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Beirdo:

don't put the system onto LVM, just data

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Beirdo:

and yeah, there's a way to do that

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malaTG:

ahh good idea

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Beirdo:

there's an LVM HOWTO for Linux that's pretty good

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Beirdo:

although I think it's LVM1

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malaTG:

don't got very good knowledge about LVM just afraid that if one of my disks crashes all crashes

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Beirdo:

that is a risk

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Beirdo:

LVM on top of RAID is your best bet :)

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Beirdo:

or just risk losing data

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malaTG:

yeaa

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malaTG:

hmmm want to build my final system right away I think just wish I had the money.... :S

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

well, I'm gonna try to go to bed

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malaTG:

ok thx for the help!

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malaTG:

also thx to phar0e and adante :-)

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adante:

i'm pretty sure a disk failing under unionfs won't drag any other disks down with it, but merit of the sheer primitiveness of it

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malaTG:

ok

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Beirdo:

but it would take down the filesystems on the disk

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Beirdo:

that filesystem would be shit

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Beirdo:

missing loads of data

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Beirdo:

no?

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malaTG:

damn it why isn't there ever a perfect solution......

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Beirdo:

there is

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Beirdo:

RAID with LVM on top :)

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malaTG:

ok will check it out I am no RAID guru either

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adante:

it'd take down that disks filesystem and every file on it yes, but the other disks should be fine

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adante:

this of course may not be acceptable depending on what your parameters are regarding redundancy

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Beirdo:

if the filesystem spans more than one disk, the whole thing is pooched, no?

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adante:

but hey, i think it does about as good as can be expected given the parameters

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Beirdo:

bed

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adante:

well, as i understand it (which infact i do not), unionfs simply merges directories into a single tree

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Beirdo:

night, you crazy aussies

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adante:

sweet water rats dreams Beirdo :]

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Beirdo:

only 2:34am here

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Beirdo:

hehe

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malaTG:

nite

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malaTG:

yeaa had one more question....... I read somewhere that myth could remove commercials etc from mpeg2 streams without having to reencode? Is that true and if so how?

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phar0e:

you mean lossless transcoding?

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malaTG:

yopp just removal of the commercials fast

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malaTG:

my system isn't so powerful..... takes forever to transcode

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phar0e:

really haven't tested how long it takes, but from what I've read it doesn't encode unless it has to, around the cutlists

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malaTG:

but I can't choose mpeg2 coding under my transcoding

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malaTG:

only mpeg2 => mpeg4

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malaTG:

so now all my recordings become mpeg4 but I dont want that

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phar0e:

do you see the lossless option? should be on the first screen

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malaTG:

checking....

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malaTG:

what is the swedish name :-)

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malaTG:

ahh found it

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malaTG:

great thx!!!

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phar0e:

haha, use english translation

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phar0e:

when it comes to your mythtv only trust english

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malaTG:

he agrees but have some other people sometimes that want swedish... :S

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phar0e:

only swedish women

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malaTG:

true true

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phar0e:

what is your favourite TV show, malaTG ?

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malaTG:

hmmm Prison break

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malaTG:

I think

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malaTG:

or longtime friends

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malaTG:

you?

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phar0e:

yeah prison break is good, my fav is `24`

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phar0e:

prison break returns this Monday in the US, so that means... in 8 months it'll be on in sweden?

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malaTG:

haven't seen that yet..... know that it is a crime

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malaTG:

someting like that

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phar0e:

24 inspired prison break

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malaTG:

yeaa and the sequal is never as good as the original

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malaTG:

hmm why couldn't the new fedora core come this weekend want to build my new system....

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phar0e:

I can't answer that

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Hoxzer:

http://pastebin.com/595966 <- any ideas how could I fix this?

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Calroth:

no idea, is the path to your media directory right?

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Hoxzer:

Calroth: yeah

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Hoxzer:

it fixed when I removed everything in record dir

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Hoxzer:

I didn't have any records so It didn't matter

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Hoxzer:

:D hmmm seems like mythbackend isn't too stable

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Calroth:

strange

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Gumby:

can anyone here offer any help on lircd? I am trying to get an ati remote_wonder to work. I've followed docs online, I can start lircd, the loadling of lirc_atiusb says that the receiver is present, I can run irrecord and record input, but th remote doesnt work in either mythfrontend or irw

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scopeuk:

have you cheacked the batteries?

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Gumby:

lol, if irrecord can record input then the batteries are just fine

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scopeuk:

Gumby im thinking that remote can producae random output when the batts are low

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scopeuk:

was jsut a though

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Gumby:

scopeuk: the batteries are brand new, one hour ago

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scopeuk:

ok

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Gumby:

hrm, ok. I got it slightly figured out.

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Calroth:

what files did you configure for mythfrontend?

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Gumby:

got irw working

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Gumby:

key press rate is too bast though

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Gumby:

I grabbed a conf from online and put it in ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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Gumby:

it might work now, I'll need to check

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Calroth:

ok, that's probably the right location

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Calroth:

mythfrontend built with lirc support?

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Gumby:

installed via rpm, so I hope so :)

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Gumby:

is there any way of telling ?

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Calroth:

not sure

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Gumby:

"mythtv: could not connect to socket" "mythtv: connection refused" "lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceeding messages"

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Gumby:

lol, of course lircd should be running :P

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Gumby:

woohoo, its workin :)

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Calroth:

sweet

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Gumby:

now I just have to reconfigure my keycodes and I am set :)

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Gumby:

gf is going to love me in the AM

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Juski:

haha! I just saw mythtv skip 2.5 minutes of adverts at last! on the cartoon network.. pity that has 5 mins of ads but hey

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stuarta:

it's an improvement...

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Juski:

I went to press stop on my remote, but was in the wrong mode on the remote... then saw 'skipping' flash on the OSD

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stuarta:

damn cure tickets sold out...

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Juski:

back to my cctv installing...

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bio_:

gumby: what are you using? standard remote control?

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bio_:

hmm, anyone knows if the remote control that comes with the hauppaufe wintv pvr150 is only infrared?

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Gumby:

bio_: ati remote wonder

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bio_:

well, at least on their hp it says its only ir :/

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Gumby:

bio_: its IR I do believe. not rf

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bio_:

yeah, they state on their hp

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bio_:

was just wondering because there are 2 cables going in

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bio_:

one clearly looks like ir, the other one i dont know

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bio_:

hm looks like no shop in austria hast the ati remote wonder

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Gumby:

I got a great deal on ebay

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Gumby:

two IR receivers and one remote for like $25CAD

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bio_:

wow

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bio_:

german site i found it on by now, it costs 69 euro

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bio_:

(what a sentence)

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bio_:

oh cool, 6 euro atm on ebay and 5 pound shipping costs

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Jelte:

hi there... is it possible to schedule a recording with a wildcard? ie I dont just want to record "F1: Bahrain Grand Prix Live" but rather "F1: *"

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jmblack:

Myth .19 w/ 640x480 & 100dpi (I think) I'm not able to see all the back, forward, and finish buttons at the bottom of a few setup screens (General, 1 of 2 database settings, in particular). Is this normal or do I have a misconfiguarion somewhere?

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jmblack:

Jelte: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc12.5

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Jelte:

jmblack: thanks!

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jmblack:

np

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Juski:

bio_: all the PVR remotes are only IR.. for RF it's the ATI remote wonder or something that specifically says it's RF

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bio_:

:/

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bio_:

yeah, i thought so, but as mentioned, was wondering about the 2 receivers on the cable

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Juski:

you can buy RF remote systems which interface to IR so you get both

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scopeuk:

hmm i mgiht take an old rc card apart and make a paralel remote

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scopeuk:

ifi cba

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scopeuk:

not that id be able to do the interfaceing

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scopeuk:

ill stick with my wireless desk set thinking about it

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Juski:

you can also get combinations where you have an IR room blaster to control equipment locally which has an RF receiver....

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Juski:

loads of options

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jmblack:

no idea on the settings screen buttons? If thats the way it is for everone I'll live with it. I can still key down to the buttons I cant see ;) I just hate to live with it if its a boneheaded config on my end.

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Juski:

if you can VNC into the machine it'd help you a lot, jmblack

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Juski:

jmblack: if you're using TV out I recommend you set the size of the GUI in the appearance menus – a bit fiddly even without VNC but it can be a life-saver

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jmblack:

hrm. Im not sure if you answered my question or dodged it :)

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jmblack:

yeah, vnc would probably help becuase I could run at a higher res I assume

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awb4422:

morning all

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jmblack:

If I understood you, at 100dpi on some menus their are just too many options to fit all the options and the bottom row of buttons. yes?

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awb4422:

i'm having some problems running mythfilldatabase

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awb4422:

getting an access denied error..which im guessing is the password not being correct

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awb4422:

is there a place I can change what the script uses?

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Juski:

good afternoon Coume :-)

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awb4422:

nevermind, i just re-ran mythtv-setup.. seemed like the easiest way to fix things

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Coume:

hiya Juski, how is it going?

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Juski:

installing my cctv today coume... hard work even though all I have left to do is route a cable

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Juski:

I wanna rip the floor up & do a proper job but mrs Juski isn't allowing that

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Juski:

anyway... hope you're having a good weekend – I'll get back to my work :-)

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stuarta:

hehehe

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Coume:

eheh have fun Juski :)

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Juski:

tea break

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sphing:

you brits

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Juski:

hey it might not be quick but it'll be a proper job

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Juski:

just replastered a bit of the wall that's needed doing for ages too

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Juski:

anyway if we had a decent criminal justice system I wouldn't be needing to do all this shit ;-)

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lesshaste:

Juski: :)

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lesshaste:

Juski: which country are you referring to?

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stuarta:

he's referring to the uk

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]BreliC[:

i have a questio

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]BreliC[:

+n

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]BreliC[:

i have a hauppauge wintv pvr150

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]BreliC[:

i can view tv with vlc (and audio is fine), and I can record from the device using 'cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg'

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]BreliC[:

the problem is that i can't change channels

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]BreliC[:

the only problem i can see is that the tuner is not recognized

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]BreliC[:

tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26132, rev = C599, serial# = 8905850

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]BreliC[:

tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = -1070989888)

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]BreliC[:

and at the end of the dmesg, i get tuner 2–0061: tuner type not set

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]BreliC[:

using ubuntu breezy with kernel 2.6.12–10

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]BreliC[:

any ideas?

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]BreliC[:

it works fine in windows, btw

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]BreliC[:

when i try to watch TV using Mythtv, the screen just goes black (though in VLC it is stuck on one channel.. TBS... )

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]BreliC[:

ivtv-tune *says* the channel has been changed, but it doesn't seem to make a difference

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]BreliC[:

is everyone just watching mythtv?? ;)

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]BreliC[:

no one has ever had their tuner unrecognized?

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misch:

I'm having a bit of trouble with knoppmyth and a PVR-150., and I'm running into a problem when trying to start live tv

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misch:

the screen goes black and basically crashes the front end.

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misch:

when I run it from the console, I'm seeing the error message: RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().

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misch:

LiveTV not successfully started

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misch:

Any ideas/suggestions as to what might be going wrong with that?

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skipjack:

does mythtv doesn't work with ati grafikcards ?

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misch:

ati all-in-wonder cards, from what I've read in the documentation, no.

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funsi:

what I'm doing wrong with the lirc installation? my ~/.mythtv/lircrc looks like that: http://www.honktown.de/funk/lircrc

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funsi:

irw works perfectly. mythtv runs on a gentoo system with +lirc use flag

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funsi:

but in the mythfrontend nothin happens while pressing the remote buttons

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]BreliC[:

misch, what tuner do you have?

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]BreliC[:

tuner model i should say

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misch:

PVR-150 MCE

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Joran:

Hi all... trying to boot knoppmyth and it complains it can't find the Knoppix CD, anyone know where I should mount the CD, and what to exec to continue booting?

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Hoxzer:

2006-03–11 18:34:37.943 AutoExpire: ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /myth/tv/1512_20060311123018.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed.

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Hoxzer:

I keep getting errors like that

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Hoxzer:

guys

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funsi:

ok lirc problem solved, after i cheaned the config paramter from "key up currentwidow" into "up"

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Hoxzer:

now is the time you guys should tell me how to fix these

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Joran:

Hoxzer: now is the time you should be less arrogant, I've asked my question once, and waited for an answer, during which time you've asked your question and then moaned about a less-than-instant reply.

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Hoxzer:

Joran: i asked same thing about 2 hours ago

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dtm:

Hoxzer: then get a grip and knock it off.

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Joran:

if you're not looking for (or getting) an instant answer, try malinglists

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Hoxzer:

Joran: I just found similar thread

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misch:

when I try to run tvtime from the command line, I get a message "ivtv: invalid argument Cannot open capture device /dev/video0." on the tvtime screen

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Hoxzer:

However I dont really understand the answer for it

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Hoxzer:

"in 0.19, just go in and delete it manually."

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Hoxzer:

Like go in where

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Hoxzer:

"it will pop up a dialog

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Hoxzer:

notifying you that the file doesn't exist and asking if it should still

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Hoxzer:

be deleted from the DB."

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Hoxzer:

and popup in where

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misch:

I did a dmesg | grep ivtv and there's one line in there that bothers me...

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misch:

tuner: type set to 4 (NoTuner) by ivtv i2c driver #0

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dtm:

misch: did you google your error

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misch:

working on that now

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Shdwdrgn:

is there some kind of issue with mythbackend? Running 0.19 and it seems almost every day that I look at my box, the upcoming recordings is blank and I have to restart backend, then restart frontend.

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misch:

ahh, tuner not supported with ivtv...

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Shdwdrgn:

hmm this time the list came back without restarting frontend

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Joran:

Hoxzer: reply to the thread then, they obviously know more than I do or others in here do.

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stuarta:

Hoxer: touch <file that doesn't exist>

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stuarta:

Hoxzer: touch <file that doesn't exist>

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abarbaccia:

hey all – anybody try compiling 0.19 with firewire support? no matter what options (--enable-firewire) the backend always says "NO FIREWIRE SUPPORT" when I start it

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dasOp_:

abarbaccia: read the docs on what libs you need for firewire support

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abarbaccia:

dasOp_ i have the correct ones installed but i think i just found the error – Ubuntu puts its libs in different directory – im gonna try to recompile with that specified

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jd86:

what can i do to make the picture clearer... i have lines going up and down of fuzz on one tuner, a flashing dodad on the top on the other tuner...

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sphing:

is there an app to watch the memory usage of a program?

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stuarta:

watch overall, or check for bad behaviour?

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abarbaccia:

use top sphery

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abarbaccia:

use top sphing

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sphing:

that shoes percentages...not actual memory right?

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stuarta:

you need to look at the vert & res & shr sizes

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stuarta:

virtual, resident & shared

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sphing:

ah... thanks

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Hoxzer:

is there some way to "download" EPG as I dont see anything in it atm

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Hoxzer:

Just so that you I used channels.conf to import channels

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stuarta:

if you use the eit scanner it will pick them up itself.

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Hoxzer:

I tried to scan existing channels :(

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Hoxzer:

but it just skips them

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stuarta:

Huh? Scanning existing channels & EPG data are completely different things

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laga:

still the same old story, huh?

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Hoxzer:

Stuarta: how do I use EIT scanner?

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stuarta:

if you built it with --enable-dvb-eit it'll do it itself.

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Hoxzer:

...

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stuarta:

???

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Hoxzer:

do you know is it enabled by default in svn version?

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Hoxzer:

I dont see it in the list when I try ./configure

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stuarta:

okay that may be an oversight on the configure scripts

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stuarta:

if you don't pass it EIT scanning is disabled.

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Hoxzer:

Hmmmmmmm

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Hoxzer:

Can I get guide via grabber?

[18:16:26]

Hoxzer:

guide = epg

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Ryushin:

Has anyone heard when the deltachrome graphics cards will start to be available?

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laga:

Ryushin: i believe club3d made them a few years ago. but i don't think you can buy them anymore :/

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Ryushin:

Really? I didn't think there were even released yet from Via/S3.

[18:18:47]

Ryushin:

I want to use Vi's XvMC instead of nvidia's.

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Juski:

hey hey

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laga:

Ryushin: http://www.club3d.nl/productshow_vga.php?orde . . . p=1&l=en

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laga:

Juski: hi

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Juski:

how's it going laga?

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Juski:

been busy putting up my cameras properly today. just a little tidying up left to do ;-)

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laga:

Juski: fine :) except for a darn cold

[18:23:03]

Juski:

ow

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laga:

Juski: what cameras? for your xxx.biz project?

[18:23:19]

Juski:

laga: I wish. nah it's for cctv

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laga:

Juski: heh

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Juski:

had em up last night. checked the recordings back today & erm... nobody but 'olds' walked on our side of the street

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laga:

why do you need cctv?

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Juski:

a few of the neighbours & I have had our cars vandalised

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laga:

ouch, that sucks

[18:26:12]

Juski:

yup. Â£100 plus VAT for new door mirrors

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Coume:

Juski, had the same problem while in Coventry during the World Cup thanks to my French car :)

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Juski:

just hoping the cameras keep trouble at bay rather than make it worse

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Coume:

are they big or small hidden ones?

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Juski:

quite big

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Juski:

need decent pictures

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Coume:

yep

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** laga thankfully hasn't had his french car vandalized yet ;) **

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Juski:

one on the front porch with IR LEDs.. very good indeed

[18:30:08]

Coume:

here we go for the stupid question... Is there a way to know what is the motherboard used in a computer without having a way to go into the BIOS, neither opening the tower...

[18:30:27]

Juski:

Coume: there are some good utils for that

[18:30:53]

Coume:

Juski, I was wondering if these IR LEDs, where really working well.. what are their range? 2–5m?

[18:30:56]

Juski:

I only know of windows ones though

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Coume:

eheh that's the problem then :)

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Juski:

Coume: well they light up my whole garden, so a good 10m at least

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Coume:

GOSH

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Coume:

10m, I would have never thought so...

[18:32:28]

Juski:

http://sfpsecurity.co.uk/osshop/index.php?cPa . . . 8c969b5e0eed

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Coume:

which one is yours?

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Juski:

E2003

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Juski:

I went for the 8mm lens

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Juski:

it's better than the expensive cameras I borrowed from work put it that way

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Coume:

nice, let's hope noone will smash your camera...

[18:35:25]

Juski:

it's too high up

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Juski:

had to overcome my vertigo to mount it

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eiggirC:

Juski: heh

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eiggirC:

Juski: what did that nifty camera cost you?

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Coume:

they put some at my grand parents flat in France to try catching the youngster having fun destroying the front door with TAGs, etc... and they blowed the camera with rocks using the elastic thingie to throw the rocks...

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eiggirC:

Coume: bugger – cameras don't stop stuff happening

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eiggirC:

they just prove it happened and who was there doing it

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eiggirC:

45 quid? shit thats good

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Coume:

yeah 45quid with the night vision and stuff.. it's pretty cheap

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eiggirC:

Juski: what difference does the lens size make?

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eiggirC:

thats a lot of LED on the front

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Juski:

eiggirC: lens size – smaller mm, wider shot

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eiggirC:

right – basically a non-adjustable zoom ?

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Juski:

yeh

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Juski:

PTZ cameras need to have operators controlling em generally. preset patrol modes – you stand too much chance of missing something

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Juski:

I need beeeeeeeeeeeer

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eiggirC:

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Panasonic-NV-M40-VHS-Movie . . . cmdZViewItem

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eiggirC:

thats my camera :)

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laga:

Juski: no JD? ;)

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Juski:

heheh. long time since I used one of those

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Juski:

laga: JD for later

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eiggirC:

Juski: I got four of them :)

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Juski:

bloody hell

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eiggirC:

Juski: ?

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DarkD:

Ok i gots me a problem..

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DarkD:

got a MYTH SLAVE server running

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DarkD:

whne the service starts durring INIT

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abarbaccia:

hey all – is a 2.8Ghz sempron enough power to run the backend and frontend for HD?

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DarkD:

mythbackend server wont start

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DarkD:

(There is a tuner in the slave)

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DarkD:

i gets

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DarkD:

QMYSQL3: Unable to connect

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DarkD:

Database error was:

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DarkD:

Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' ( 2)

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abarbaccia:

its showing 80 – 90% cpu usage during live TV and playback is hickuping

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DarkD:

however if i start it manuyaly AFTER the boot is complete it works

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abarbaccia:

so im wondering if i could use some other xvmc or something to help it out

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DarkD:

any one have any ideas

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eiggirC:

abarbaccia: hell yes.

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eiggirC:

abarbaccia: oh- for HD no thats not enough

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abarbaccia:

yeah, thats what i was thinking...

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abarbaccia:

i have an nVidia card in there so thats why i think right now im barely skating by

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Juski:

one acronym for ya.. XvMC ;-)

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DarkD:

any one have an idea whats up with the backend?

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Juski:

DarkD: prolly your my.cnf file is set to bind only to local addresses

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abarbaccia:

Juski if i have an nvidia card don't i have xvmc?

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Juski:

abarbaccia: not by default

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Coume:

Juski, do u use a specific website to buy hardware in the UK?

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DarkD:

Juski: but when i restart teh server AFTER boot is done everythign works

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abarbaccia:

Juski its enabled in the drivers no?

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Juski:

Coume: I tend to buy computer gear from local places, Scan.co.uk, microdirect.co.uk and planetmicro.co.uk

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Coume:

thxs I will check them out :)

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DarkD:

Juski: any ideas?

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Juski:

DarkD: check the init script for mythbackend is depending on mysql running

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DarkD:

Juski: mysql is on the host server

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DarkD:

Juski: and i tried adding a /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart

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DarkD:

to end of RC.LOCAL

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DarkD:

same results

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bio_:

stupid question possibly, but cant check it because i had to the room with the tv every time. when i press f to switch color during playback. the color is not changed when i press right/left arrow

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bio_:

which would be the correct key? :)

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Juski:

make sure the network stuff has started by the time mythbackend has too DarkD

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abarbaccia:

Juski do you know anything about enabling xvmc on an nvidia card? does the "RenderAccel" option have to be on?

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DarkD:

youd think that when rc.local is initlalized the network would be running

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jd86:

:(

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Juski:

DarkD: you using DHCP to get an IP for the slave b/e ?

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DarkD:

aya

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Juski:

try a fixed one instead

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Juski:

after that I'm all outta idea

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DarkD:

damit it worked fine b4

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DarkD:

LOL

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Juski:

ahhh – the old "it worked before (tm)" line

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DarkD:

LOL

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DarkD:

Juski: yeh it worked b4 i changed the slave :-S

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DarkD:

is there any tool that will keep mythbackend alive if it crashes

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Juski:

it _shouldn't_ crash

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Juski:

if it crashes, don't fix it by restarting it – find out why it falls over ;-)

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DarkD:

Juski: but yet it does happend

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DarkD:

Juski: becuase ivtv is not supported 100% or somethign i donno but it has happend for stupid reasons

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Juski:

just works for me (tm) ;-) With DVB-T and ivtv 0.4.2

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Ryushin:

I am so sick and tired trying to get xmvc to work with HD. I cannot get completely smooth playback no mater what I do. Funny thing is that it was completely smooth with 18.1 except for the osd skips. I feel that we have gone backwards in the xvmc implimentation in the current SVN.

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DarkD:

Juski: not like it happens often LOL

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DarkD:

and the log has no details why

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Beirdo:

I hope you put in a ticket

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endre_:

:D

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endre_:

flapping bot

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Beirdo:

that's me

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endre_:

ok

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Beirdo:

I had to quit and allow coredumps

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Beirdo:

so I can find the bug

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endre_:

is it sigsegving?

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Beirdo:

yes

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Beirdo:

should be easy to find

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endre_:

is it irssi? :)

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skipjack:

Must I have /video ? or can I change the place for the Music, Videos and so on in MythTV??

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Beirdo:

I guess I should install gdb :)

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Beirdo:

no it isn't irssi

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crash-x:

is it possible to display mythmusic visualizations on a second monitor?

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Beirdo:

Hmmm. I really don't get this

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Beirdo:

something really borked there

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Beirdo:

!seen xris

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MythLogBot:

xris is here and has been idle for 10 seconds

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Beirdo:

!seen GreyFoxx

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MythLogBot:

GreyFoxx is here and has been idle for 20 seconds

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Beirdo:

OK, the bug is disabled temporarily while I track it down on my test setup

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Beirdo:

and fixed

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Beirdo:

the joys of buffer overflows

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Beirdo:

Thank you xris for finding that nasty bug

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bio_:

gratz :)

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Beirdo:

Ahh, nice to be able to reload the plugins without restarting it :)

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Beirdo:

heh

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** Beirdo farts **

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** Beirdo farts **

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** MythLogBot farts back at Beirdo **

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** Beirdo farts **

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

load, unload.

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Beirdo:

works great

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Beirdo:

and THAT module will be staying unloaded

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** sona farts Beirdo in the face **

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Beirdo:

too bad

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Beirdo:

well, back to my book

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CruX|:

hi is any software decoder for linux like wincsc for skystar2 ?

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Juski:

CruX|: talk of such things is frowned on in here, so don't – unless you want to get kicked / banned

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Juski:

for DVB-S the _proper_ way to go about it is with a hardware CAM and a legitimate viewing card

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Juski:

and for mythtv it's the only supported method

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CruX|:

Juski: ok, so skystar2 isn't supported ?

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Juski:

I didn't say that

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CruX|:

and can be mythtv be compiled without mysql ?

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Juski:

if you can find a DVB-S card with a CI (common interface) and buy a CAM to plug a viewing card into, you'll be on your way

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Juski:

what? No MYSQL? LOL. Mythtv kinda needs mysql because umm... everything is stored in a database

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Juski:

try VDR if you don't like the mysql dependency or lack of support for potentially illegal software, but it's way less cool than MythTV

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laga:

~trout Juski

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Juski:

bah

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** Juski beers laga **

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laga:

hmm. stupid bot.

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Juski:

try !trout juski

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laga:

!trout juski

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** MythLogBot slaps juski with a trout on behalf of laga... **

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laga:

yay.

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Juski:

aye

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CruX|:

Juski: ok, can i use sqllite instead of mysql ? thx much for help

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laga:

:)

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laga:

CruX|: no

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Juski:

it's Mysql, or no mythtv

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Juski:

hardware CAM.. or no MythTV

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Juski:

:-)

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** Juski remembers he recorded the Muppet Show thing earlier... **

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Juski:

anyway laga.. how's it all going? having a nice holiday from moderating? ;-)

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Juski:

oh well I'm gonna head back to my couch for the night. lots of mythtv beckons.. and another instalment of '24'

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** Coume has messed up all his network configuration... lol **

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Juski:

nuts I have to wait til Casualty is finished

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Juski:

Coume: what on earth can go wrong with network configuration? Unless you're using wireless...

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Coume:

i'm indeed using wifi :) and managed to erase my "WEP" config... hopefully I had a cable line around!

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Juski:

I can't relate to that yet – I have a kind of neanderthal-ish suspicion of everything wireless

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laga:

wireless works fine, especially if you don'

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laga:

t feel like reproducing :P

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Juski:

been thinking about getting a wireless bridge so simillarly enabled neighbours can share the cttv

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Juski:

that reminds me. I have to flush my mobile phone down the toilet because it gets no signal anymore apart from the first 30 seconds of having been switched on :-/

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laga:

phone is overrated anyways

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dtm:

Juski: see how much phone insurance costs first ^_^

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Coume:

eheh dtm

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UserAbuse:

hello – can't compile mythflix or mythdvd plugin yest 19 svn

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UserAbuse:

error: mythtv/libmythui/myththemedmenu.h: No such file or directory

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UserAbuse:

known problem?

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UserAbuse:

mythgallery doesn't compile either

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UserAbuse:

main.cpp:26: error: â€˜class MythContextâ€™ has no member named â€˜addCurrentLocationâ€™

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UserAbuse:

mythweather too

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UserAbuse:

main.cpp:54: error: â€˜class MythContextâ€™ has no member named â€˜addCurrentLocationâ€™

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SlicerDicer-:

anybody using firewire capture?

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maximus2000:

Hi who can I clear all the programs from my myth database. They appear to be wrong

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r00t_:

nick Daluv

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mrec:

does anyone have a cinergy hybrid xs or hauppauge hvr 900?

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Daluv_:

2006-03–11 16:29:42.803 mythfilldatabase run complete. <- Why I do still view nothing when I go in the guide section?

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sean33:

seem to have a problem getting the center voice channel working have a via8237 sounds card

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sean33:

playing around in alsamixer effects all but still nothing from the center channel and no voice in the DVD movie

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bio_:

does anyone know somebody who has some c knowledge and a bit of sparetime? :)

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atom_jack:

For some reason my backend is not able to flag commercials on my recordings. I'm getting these errors:

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atom_jack:

2006-03–10 23:30:43.528 MSqlQuery::InitCon gContext null

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atom_jack:

2006-03–10 23:30:43.565 DB Error (Error in JobQueue::GetJobID()):

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atom_jack:

and another one about ~MsqlQuery::gContext null

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atom_jack:

anyone have any clue as to why this is happening? I'm also getting some gContext type errors when running mythtv-setup, and the main front page of it is totally blank, although I can use the cursor keys to highlight the 5 different options (general, tuner cards, etc), and enter to go to them, i just can't see what i am selecting

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lt_kije:

when i first ran mythtv-setup, my card (pcHDTV HD-3000) was recognized just fine, although i couldn't get it to play

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MindHack:

anyone in here pull off a remote dedicated frontend with a 250mhz pentium?

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lt_kije:

then i ran tvtime to check NTSC input; since then, when i run mythtv-setup, the capture card setup screen says the card is 'device or resource busy'

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atom_jack:

is your backend running?

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atom_jack:

you shouldnt have the backend running when you run mythtv-setup, i believe

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lt_kije:

ah

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lt_kije:

thanks, atom_jack; that clears that up

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atom_jack:

no prob

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atom_jack:

i'm curious if you have any luck getting myth to tune to channels properly really easily

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atom_jack:

i had to do a lot of tweaking in the mysql database in order to get it to tune right

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lt_kije:

i still get errors like 'Could not find dvb tuning parameters for transport 0' in my log, though

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atom_jack:

well once you figure out how it all works it's not htat hard, well, if you know your way around mysql

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lt_kije:

is there a step where this is generated?

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atom_jack:

have you been able to tune channels on the card outside of myth?

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lt_kije:

NTSC, yes

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lt_kije:

ATSC...

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lt_kije:

not sure how ; )

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atom_jack:

hmm

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atom_jack:

cause i had to figure out all the frequencies and pids

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lt_kije:

how'd you do that?

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hello_man:

guys.. I am not able to get program guide from zap2it (my network has some problem on knoppmyth)

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atom_jack:

trial and error

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hello_man:

but I am not able to get any channel

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atom_jack:

actually if you look in the dtv_multiplex table

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atom_jack:

where do you live?

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lt_kije:

southern WI, USA

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atom_jack:

ah

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atom_jack:

what cable provider

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atom_jack:

comcast?

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lt_kije:

not cable — broadcast

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atom_jack:

ahhhh

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lt_kije:

; )

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atom_jack:

oh ok nevermind, can't help you heh

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lt_kije:

hehe

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atom_jack:

i'm using cable

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lt_kije:

hm

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atom_jack:

so you dont have cable?

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lt_kije:

nope

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lt_kije:

wanna get broadcast HDTV

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atom_jack:

ah

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lt_kije:

when i choose 'watch TV' from the frontend menu, i get the 'dvb tuning parameters' errors in my log

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atom_jack:

yeah

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atom_jack:

yeah i have no idea how to do it for broadcast

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lt_kije:

i feel like i must've missed a step, but i don't see anything in the HOW-TO...

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atom_jack:

i'm using ATSC QAM_256

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hello_man:

guys.. why does my nvidia network controller doesn't work with knoppmyth

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hello_man:

Its detect and everything but doesn't ping or anything

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lt_kije:

hello_man: do you use DHCP on your network?

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hello_man:

yes.. but I have set the parameters statticly

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hello_man:

its connected toa router

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lt_kije:

(i don't know anything about knoppmyth in particular)

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lt_kije:

did you get an IP via DHCP on the knoppmyth box?

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hello_man:

no.

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lt_kije:

unless you have a reason not to, why don't you do that? it's what DHCP is for...

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hello_man:

I mean.. I think no.

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hello_man:

even with DHCP it didn't work

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hello_man:

I tried that first

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lt_kije:

even when you had gotten an IP via dhcp, you couldn't ping out from the box?

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hello_man:

yes

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mattwj2005:

question for you guys....

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lt_kije:

hello_man: well, do you see any TX/RX packets on the network interface? (eg using tcpdump)

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mattwj2005:

I got a P3 800 Mhz, 256 MB Ram, DVD burner, 20 GB HD, and an old WinTV tuner....will that work for a complete backend/frontend system?

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lt_kije:

mattwj2005: processor sounds a little old for video work...

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hello_man:

lt_kije

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hello_man:

I am trying that

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mattwj2005:

how about to just use it as a recorder?

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bio_:

i have it running on an athlon xp 1000 and i´d say it works just fine

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bio_:

lots of free cpu-time

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hello_man:

lt_kije.. how do I check that

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bio_:

matt: hardware-encoder on your tuner-card?

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mattwj2005:

nope it is software

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mattwj2005:

I think

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lt_kije:

hello_man: you mean tcpdump?

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bio_:

hm, dont have that much experience, but then it seems a little bit slow

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hello_man:

it says command no tfound

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bio_:

apt-get install tcpdump?

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bio_:

ah, without network that wont work ^^

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mattwj2005:

it is a WinTV 878 or 879

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atom_jack:

anyone know why i would be getting "MSqlQuery::InitCon gContext null" errors in the backend when it tries to do commercial flagging?

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mattwj2005:

I know that Linux supports it under V4L

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** lt_kije found the 'Channel Scan' widget in mythtv-setup **

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mattwj2005:

bio_ what are you using as a distro?

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mattwj2005:

for the heck of it.....I was thinking about trying Debian

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bio_:

im using debian

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bio_:

debian testing

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bio_:

but maybe you should try with knoppmyth or what that is called

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bio_:

so you dont have all the work and in the end its not functioning

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mattwj2005:

good point :)

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bio_:

at least it took me quite a while to get everything working the way it does now

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bio_:

last thing i want to get working is a nice way to remote control the box that is standing in my living room

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mattwj2005:

can you record with MythTV in MPEG1?

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bio_:

mpeg2 only afaik

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mattwj2005:

sounds like you have a nice system

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bio_:

thats not right, mpeg2, something called ?jmpeg? and that containerclass nuv if you software-encode

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bio_:

yeah runs quite nice by now with multiple frontends and mythweb etc.

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bio_:

but controlling it when watching in front of the tv is quite annoying

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bio_:

tv in bedroom, mythtv frontend with keyboard in living room :/

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bio_:

so searching for someone who knows c++ to rewrite the bemused-server and i´d rewrite the bemused midlet :)

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mattwj2005:

you want to control your media by your phone?!

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hello_man:

yeah.. I don;t have network and I dont have tcpdump

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bio_:

matt: yeah

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mattwj2005:

sounds good

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mattwj2005:

speaking of phones....I actually know more about Asterisk than I do MythTV :P

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mattwj2005:

but then again this is a MythTV chatroom

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hello_man:

gusy..

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bio_:

bemusedserver allready has lirc-support. so stripping all the xmms and xpdf-control stuff and maybe a bit of rework on the lirc code would be the thing i need :)

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bio_:

hello_man: thats a pity

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bio_:

take another nic?

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hello_man:

I compiled mythtv on debian using the following infor from ww.mythtv.org

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bio_:

asterisk was telephony, right?

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hello_man:

Debian.

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hello_man:

Build-dependencies for MythTV can be satisfied by adding the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list

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hello_man:

# Christian Marillat's packages (mplayer, lame)

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hello_man:

deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

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hello_man:

deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

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hello_man:

and executing:

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hello_man:

# apt-get build-dep mythtv

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hello_man:

# apt-get source mythtv --compile

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hello_man:

it compiled fine.

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hello_man:

but I don't have xwindows

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hello_man:

wah can i do

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bio_:

get network working and download x?

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Vantage__:

has anyone had any luck getting tv out on a pundit-r (ati chipset)?

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hello_man:

bio__

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hello_man:

on this disk, i have installed debian from scratch

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hello_man:

so here netwrok works

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hello_man:

just no x windows

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hello_man:

on the other disc, i used knoppmyth

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bio_:

ah

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hello_man:

everything works there but no network

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hello_man:

also no video

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bio_:

so you want xwindows on the debian-box?

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hello_man:

so I was thinking of doing on debian myself

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hello_man:

yes

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bio_:

apt-get install xserver-xorg

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bio_:

or apt-get install xserver-xfree86

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hello_man:

ok

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hello_man:

done

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hello_man:

now when I compiled I got lot of *.deb files

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hello_man:

mythtv common, frontedn backend

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bio_:

deb files are installed with dpkg -i xxxx.deb

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hello_man:

I tried that

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hello_man:

but then got some dependency errors

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hello_man:

like mythtv-common is not confgured and something else is dependent

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scopeuk:

have you tried apt build-dep mythtv

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scopeuk:

apt-get build-dep mythtv*

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hello_man:

no. what does that do?

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bio_:

00:17 < hello_man> # apt-get build-dep mythtv

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bio_:

;)

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hello_man:

actually yes

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Vantage__:

hello_man: apt-get install x-window-system

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hello_man:

so tell me one thing. when it installed all the dependecy automatically, that means I dont have to do those manutally as per documenation on mythtv

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scopeuk:

hello_man depends

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hello_man:

like installing LAME, XMLTV, mySQL etc

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scopeuk:

the myth dependancys ar e for .18

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scopeuk:

if your using .19 some thing may need to be newer

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hello_man:

ok..

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hello_man:

I am very new..

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hello_man:

not sure how to do it

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hello_man:

I actually got everything compiled properly

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hello_man:

then I tried apt-get -f install

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hello_man:

and got following errors

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scopeuk:

the compiled version isent down with apt

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scopeuk:

apt is for usign the packages debian makes avaliable and you have to add an unofficial repository

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scopeuk:

if your rearly new to this you may be better with knoppmyth although you'll be droping to .18

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hello_man:

knoppmyth doesn't work with my network

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bio_:

he has network-problems with knopmyth

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scopeuk:

ok

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scopeuk:

my bad

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hello_man:

it ddetects but no connectibity

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hello_man:

vdr@debian:~$ sudo apt-get -f install

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hello_man:

Reading package lists... Done

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hello_man:

Building dependency tree... Done

[23:31:35]

hello_man:

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 33 not upgraded.

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hello_man:

5 not fully installed or removed.

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hello_man:

Need to get 0B of archives.

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hello_man:

After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.

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hello_man:

Setting up mythtv-common (0.19–0.4) ...

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hello_man:

touch: cannot touch `/etc/mythtv/mysql.txt.new': No such file or directory

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hello_man:

dpkg: error processing mythtv-common (--configure):

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corpix_:

hi

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hello_man:

subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

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bio_:

hello_man: paste to pastebin plz

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hello_man:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mythtv-database:

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hello_man:

mythtv-database depends on mythtv-common (= 0.19–0.4); however:

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hello_man:

Package mythtv-common is not configured yet.

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hello_man:

dpkg: error processing mythtv-database (--configure):

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hello_man:

dependency problems – leaving unconfigured

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hello_man:

what is pastebin?

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corpix_:

i am trying to run the backend (mysql is up an running), mythtv-setup went through, but:

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scopeuk:

hello_man have you added the milliat apt repository

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corpix_:

QSqlQuery::exec: database not open

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corpix_:

the backend wont start

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hello_man:

yes

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scopeuk:

i belive that you can do it all except xmltv with a single comand if you do

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hello_man:

thats what I did

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scopeuk:

argh

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scopeuk:

ok appologies

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scopeuk:

i got it installed but it dident work very well

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bio_:

www.pastebin.com

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hello_man:

so everything compiled but don't know what to do next

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hello_man:

it also created mythtv user as well

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bio_:

thats for not flooding the channel but pasting a single link

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hello_man:

bo_ will do that

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hello_man:

I am trying to get eithe VDR or mythtv and both are not working

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scopeuk:

sory if im re askign old questiosn but what hardware as specific sas possible

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scopeuk:

and define not working

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hello_man:

i m using nvideia nforce2

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hello_man:

network conteoller is built in

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hello_man:

on knoppmyth, network has problem

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hello_man:

VDR has some direcfb problem

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hello_man:

I have twinhan 102G card

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hello_man:

and nvidia Geforce4 MX video card (integrated)

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Daluv_:

2006-03–11 16:29:42.803 mythfilldatabase run complete. <- Why I do still view nothing when I go in the guide section?

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Niklas_E:

if you don't run the mythfilldatabase the first time you start mythfrontend, is there any way to make "mythfilldatabase --manual" work then?

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corpix_:

could some one give me a hint ? i can start mythbackend as user "mythtv", but not with the daemon, here is the logfile: http://pastebin.com/597167

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scopeuk:

does user "mythtv" have r/w acces to /root/.mythtv

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corpix_:

scopeuk, should it ?

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corpix_:

i mean its root

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Niklas_E:

corpix: have you run mythtv-setup

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Niklas_E:

to setup the username and password for the mysql db?

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scopeuk:

oh sorry though you meant you were tying to run the pbackend with the deamon switch as "mythtv"

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corpix_:

Niklas_E, yes

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scopeuk:

is the file there?

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corpix_:

Niklas_E, yes, mysql works for both, mythtv and root

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corpix_:

.mythtv/mysql.txt is there

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corpix_:

in both home dirs

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scopeuk:

ok id guess its a permisons error of some description although im not sure

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corpix_:

even in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt

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corpix_:

but i wonder if mythbackend is started with --chuid mythtv

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corpix_:

and uses the root config ?

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corpix_:

how that ?

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scopeuk:

corpix_ i think ti uses that regardless althgouh im not sure

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scopeuk:

bad practice but if you chmod it 777 does it work?

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corpix_:

well, i'll try it

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corpix_:

no it doesnt

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scopeuk:

hmm

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scopeuk:

doesent look liek a permisons erro r then

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Beirdo:

muhahahah

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Beirdo:

I'm such a geek

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corpix_:

oviously ;)

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Beirdo:

I wanted to make a catalog of all my books

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Beirdo:

so I bought a barcode scanner

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

it connects as a USB keyboard :)

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corpix_:

Beirdo, interesting

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corpix_:

could someone help me out

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corpix_:

?

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corpix_:

i read the docs up and down

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Beirdo:

just scan the ISBN barcode, voila.

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Beirdo:

using alexandria to catalog :)

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scopeuk:

beavis what would have been supergeek whould have been to make your own with 2 leds a resitor and a paralel port

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Beirdo:

screw that, I don't have time to geek out like that these days :)

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scopeuk:

lol

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Beirdo:

so I enabled ISBN decoding in the scanner, and voila

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Beirdo:

I scan, it gives me the ISBN, and alexandria gets the book artwork from amazon, etc

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scopeuk:

yeh i have a friend doign a similar thing but with dvds

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mrec:

does anyone own a hauppauge hvr 900 or terratec hybrid xs here?

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