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| [00:39:26] | jroc: | hi... looking for confirmation to what seems like a question with an obvious answer: I've got a box running KnoppMyth R5A26 as a master backend, and I'm trying to run mythfrontend on a Ubuntu5.10 box and I get the "... verify that the settings table has the DBSchemaVer variable" message. I'm assuming that I Just Can't Connect Different Versions of MythTV – am I right? |
| [00:39:43] | kormoc: | that's right |
| [00:39:51] | jroc: | kormoc: thanks |
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| [01:07:53] | jams: | looks like showshifter has gone under |
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| [01:11:11] | xris: | jams: I'm supposed to ask you about a setup.xml patch for the lxm themes... |
| [01:12:51] | stealth: | Anyone ever try out one of these? http://cgi.ebay.com/New-4-Channel-CCTV-PCI-DV . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [01:13:34] | xris: | stealth: looks like a bttv card. blech. |
| [01:13:40] | stealth: | arg |
| [01:13:48] | kormoc: | stealth, not really, and there's no tuners eather, just video in |
| [01:14:17] | stealth: | ah no tuners, didnt think about that |
| [01:14:30] | stealth: | well.. if i DID use it for cctv.. it would work good? |
| [01:14:53] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [01:15:10] | xris: | stealth: quality would be mediocre at best |
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| [01:15:55] | stealth: | hmm |
| [01:16:20] | kormoc: | looks like it only supports CIF (320x240) and QCIF (160x120) too |
| [01:16:20] | jams: | xris what about it? |
| [01:16:35] | kormoc: | ooh, nm, it does support full res as well |
| [01:16:37] | stealth: | xris, you know of a multichannel capture card that would be more than mediocre.. i really am goin for cctv and figured this would be the best chan to ask about capture cards (i do have a mythbox also :-D) |
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| [01:17:57] | xris: | stealth: only the pvr-500... I don't think you'll find hardware encoders (which tend to have the best quality filters) with more than those 2 ports, though... so in that case, the $10 card might be at least worth checking out. |
| [01:18:12] | xris: | jams: chutt said you had a patch for it, and I'm just wondering why it hasn't made it into svn yet. |
| [01:18:39] | stealth: | xris, yea i suppose.. wouldent the camera be a little more important with a cctv system than the card? |
| [01:18:39] | jams: | I suppose because he hasn't had time to apply it |
| [01:18:48] | jams: | it's in trac |
| [01:18:55] | xris: | jams: ahh.... |
| [01:19:00] | xris: | stealth: no.. the digitizer is a big part of that equation. |
| [01:19:15] | xris: | firewire camera and firewire card would likely be a big improvement.... |
| [01:19:34] | stealth: | oH hell yea |
| [01:19:42] | stealth: | i dont need that high of deff though |
| [01:20:11] | xris: | stealth: in that case, you're probably fine with that $10 card, assuming that the seller is telling the truth and it works in linux |
| [01:24:24] | Beirdo: | Mmm. Strongbow |
| [01:24:25] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:24:56] | Beirdo: | that was good stuff |
| [01:25:19] | stealth: | xris, from the pic that logo on the chipset is bttv? |
| [01:27:51] | Juski: | showshifter gone under? can't say I'm surprised but it's a shame. I probably wouldn't be using mythtv if it wasn't for Showshifter ;) |
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| [01:32:06] | timekllr: | anyone here doing irewire vid capture ? |
| [01:32:11] | rsquared: | yup |
| [01:32:11] | timekllr: | er firewire |
| [01:32:14] | kormoc: | !notice |
| [01:32:14] | MythLogBot: | This channel (#mythtv-users) is logged — http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1 |
| [01:32:35] | timekllr: | rsquared : you ever have issues where you get no video ? |
| [01:33:02] | rsquared: | yeah.. probably encrypted channel |
| [01:33:50] | timekllr: | naw, it's every channel, sometimes it works, other times not |
| [01:34:03] | timekllr: | i get no video, as if it WAS an encrypted channel |
| [01:34:33] | timekllr: | if i run test-mpeg2 5 times in a row, i might get video twice if i'm lucky |
| [01:34:57] | dhofstra: | is there any way to look at the database, see what a machine used to identify itself as, and now that it's host name has changed, re-identify the machine using the 'Use custom identifier for frontend preferences'? |
| [01:34:59] | rsquared: | i had that problem alot till i went to 2.6.15 and myth 0.19 |
| [01:35:16] | timekllr: | hat's what i'm running :) |
| [01:35:17] | rsquared: | now everything seems to work very well minus the encrypted channels |
| [01:35:35] | timekllr: | what kind of cable box you have ? |
| [01:35:52] | rsquared: | 6200 |
| [01:36:06] | timekllr: | hrm |
| [01:36:35] | rsquared: | you're using broadcast, 400, right? |
| [01:36:45] | timekllr: | yeah |
| [01:36:57] | timekllr: | what distro you have ? |
| [01:37:09] | rsquared: | gentoo |
| [01:37:42] | timekllr: | nice – can you tell me your version for libiec61883,libraw1394 and libavc ? |
| [01:38:33] | rsquared: | sys-libs/libraw1394 |
| [01:38:33] | rsquared: | Latest version available: 1.2.0 |
| [01:38:33] | rsquared: | Latest version installed: 1.2.0 |
| [01:38:47] | rsquared: | sys-libs/libavc1394 |
| [01:38:47] | rsquared: | Latest version available: 0.5.0 |
| [01:38:48] | rsquared: | Latest version installed: 0.5.0 |
| [01:39:00] | rsquared: | media-libs/libiec61883 |
| [01:39:00] | rsquared: | Latest version available: 1.0.0-r1 |
| [01:39:01] | rsquared: | Latest version installed: 1.0.0-r1 |
| [01:39:17] | timekllr: | damn – all the same :( |
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| [01:39:37] | rsquared: | hrm |
| [01:40:07] | timekllr: | this is wierd |
| [01:40:08] | rsquared: | which kernel you on? |
| [01:40:13] | timekllr: | and it sucks :( |
| [01:40:26] | rsquared: | i'm running 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 |
| [01:40:28] | timekllr: | odin ~ # uname -a |
| [01:40:29] | timekllr: | Linux odin 2.6.15-gentoo-r5 #1 SMP Mon Mar 6 05:15:26 EST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| [01:40:30] | rsquared: | via genkernel |
| [01:40:38] | timekllr: | same – genkernel |
| [01:40:40] | rsquared: | oh yeah? |
| [01:40:49] | rsquared: | Linux nooblet 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Thu Feb 23 17:43:54 PST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| [01:40:54] | rsquared: | my pentium has a D |
| [01:40:55] | rsquared: | :D |
| [01:40:57] | rsquared: | heh |
| [01:40:58] | timekllr: | hehe |
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| [01:41:59] | timekllr: | so after you upgraded, it just started working automagically ? |
| [01:42:11] | rsquared: | it became alot more stable |
| [01:42:54] | timekllr: | you have any other problems ? |
| [01:43:07] | br14: | can anyone give me some pointers to installing ivtv, im trying to follow jarods guide with no success.. |
| [01:43:09] | rsquared: | my ex g/f is a psycho bitch |
| [01:43:18] | rsquared: | lol.. no.. just random transcode issues |
| [01:43:19] | timekllr: | lol |
| [01:43:21] | br14: | and maybe 5 other guides |
| [01:43:54] | timekllr: | hrm |
| [01:43:59] | rsquared: | i had a prob w/enabling ac3 to spdif passthrough |
| [01:44:09] | timekllr: | i gotta figure this out so i can do hd myth :) |
| [01:44:15] | rsquared: | when i went to non HD channels from the 6200, the video got a jumpy |
| [01:44:18] | rsquared: | haha |
| [01:44:27] | rsquared: | i need a freakin firewire card that supports 5c :( |
| [01:45:18] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – anybody successfully using mythburn with 0.19? |
| [01:46:11] | timekllr: | oh well – thanks for the info rsquared – i'm kick my box for a while and see if that helps :) |
| [01:46:18] | rsquared: | no prob |
| [01:46:24] | rsquared: | maybe try the r1 of that kernel |
| [01:46:44] | timekllr: | will do |
| [01:46:50] | rsquared: | cuz it's been solid for me |
| [01:49:31] | timekllr: | >> Compiling 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 bzImage... |
| [01:50:52] | abarbaccia: | alright – heres a great question... |
| [01:51:10] | abarbaccia: | i installed mythtv via packages on ubuntu and want to install mythburn-ui which needs to be compiled against CVS |
| [01:51:31] | abarbaccia: | any way to keep the packaged stuff and still compile with cvs or is it a choose one way or the other type deal? |
| [01:51:39] | Juski: | abarbaccia: I don't know if anyone's using 0.19 & mythburn. mythweb was updated a lot & AFAIK mythburn didn't get updated to follow it |
| [01:52:09] | abarbaccia: | Juski, well, im talking about mythburn-ui |
| [01:52:18] | Juski: | as for mythburn-ui – I'd try it myself only I never got mythburn to work with 0.18.. mjpegtools kept segfaulting |
| [01:52:19] | abarbaccia: | and there is a web interface to mythburn that is working with 0.19 |
| [01:52:40] | abarbaccia: | well, working most of the way....i gotta make sure the scripts are working correctly because they are beign bitchy right now and not doing what i tell them to |
| [01:53:02] | Juski: | btw abarbaccia: if you're the person behind abarbaccia.com – nice work. using your guide I had a working mythtv system on ubuntu in about 2 hours :-) |
| [01:53:18] | abarbaccia: | hahaha thanks – i appreciate it |
| [01:53:32] | abarbaccia: | ubuntu should get the credit though, they made it easy |
| [01:53:56] | abarbaccia: | i hope to write an update come april with dapper + 0.19 + extra features (pvr-150 IR Blaster support, mythburn, etc.) |
| [01:54:01] | Juski: | yeh but your guide showed me where I was going wrong in trying to use synaptic to do the install |
| [01:56:09] | abarbaccia: | synaptic is a tool for newbs – apt-get and apt-cache is the way to go |
| [01:56:16] | abarbaccia: | you can just never find the right packages |
| [01:57:16] | Juski: | all the version numbers were screwed in synaptic at the time IIRC |
| [01:58:11] | abarbaccia: | well thats just from repositories not being updated or extra sources etc... a real pain |
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| [01:58:38] | Juski: | heh |
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| [01:59:04] | Juski: | does mythburn-ui include the source from working versions of mjpegtools etc then? |
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| [01:59:35] | Juski: | or is it just a bolt-on for mythburn ? |
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| [02:01:40] | abarbaccia: | no |
| [02:01:51] | abarbaccia: | Juski, but if ur using ubuntu all the packages just work – apt-get them all and ur golden |
| [02:02:36] | abarbaccia: | and for projectX – install sun java (follow wiki advice) download the zip with the precompiled jar, and just use the command java -jar /path_to_projectX.jar |
| [02:02:43] | abarbaccia: | it works with mythweb 0.19 |
| [02:03:13] | Juski: | looks like the easy way out for me is to go with ubuntu for my backend then |
| [02:04:00] | abarbaccia: | yeah |
| [02:04:15] | abarbaccia: | and i just fixed my bug that was makign me think it wasnt working |
| [02:04:35] | abarbaccia: | i was crafty and made a script to launch projectX instead of the long command line |
| [02:04:48] | abarbaccia: | except i only passed it $1 instead of $@ |
| [02:05:01] | abarbaccia: | such a dumb mistake too – takes freakin 3 hours to figure out tho |
| [02:05:08] | Juski: | ouch |
| [02:06:43] | abarbaccia: | 1 character = 3 hours |
| [02:07:03] | abarbaccia: | well, it was 3 hours since i started trying to get mythburn to work |
| [02:07:06] | abarbaccia: | so its not that bad |
| [02:07:09] | abarbaccia: | probably about 30 minutes |
| [02:07:37] | Juski: | I lost count of the number of hours I spent on mythburn, or rather its dependencies |
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| [02:10:37] | abarbaccia: | Juski, its really really simple if u wanna try again |
| [02:10:56] | Juski: | it was that pesky mjpegtools segfault |
| [02:10:56] | abarbaccia: | the scripts from cvs (must get from cvs dont download the sourceforge zip) work perfectly with the new mythweb |
| [02:11:04] | abarbaccia: | doesn't do it anymore |
| [02:11:09] | abarbaccia: | ubuntu is god |
| [02:11:11] | Juski: | I couldn't be bothered to debug it |
| [02:11:11] | abarbaccia: | just remember that |
| [02:11:22] | abarbaccia: | they list the dependencies |
| [02:11:49] | abarbaccia: | only thing i ran into is that even tho i specified the correct path to tcrequant in the install.sh it defatuled to the wrong one- one line of a config filee -thats all |
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| [02:11:55] | Juski: | I'm not swapping distro at after 2am ... lol |
| [02:12:13] | xanderp: | anyone else here have mythburn die after upgrading to 0.19 ? |
| [02:12:32] | abarbaccia: | xanderp, update ur cvs |
| [02:12:35] | abarbaccia: | i just got it working |
| [02:12:46] | xanderp: | hmmm i tried to reinstall it from scratch |
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| [02:13:36] | abarbaccia: | hold on – gotta restore an image because i F'ed this one up real bad |
| [02:13:38] | abarbaccia: | brb in 1 hour |
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| [02:15:40] | rtsai: | what are the number keys supposed to do when watching tv recordings? |
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| [02:27:05] | mogorman: | hi |
| [02:27:09] | mogorman: | i have a question |
| [02:27:13] | mogorman: | when running mythdvd |
| [02:27:18] | mogorman: | how do you get back to the main menu |
| [02:27:20] | Juski: | hi mogorman |
| [02:27:24] | mogorman: | if i hit escape |
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| [02:27:30] | mogorman: | which is my standard way to go back |
| [02:27:32] | mogorman: | a menu |
| [02:27:36] | mogorman: | it does not work in this app |
| [02:27:41] | mogorman: | it works in my other apps |
| [02:27:51] | mogorman: | i was wondering if i was missing something |
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| [02:28:06] | Juski: | mogorman: depends what app you use to play DVDs. the default for mythdvd is mplayer |
| [02:28:16] | mogorman: | well im not watching anything |
| [02:28:21] | mogorman: | or even ripping |
| [02:28:26] | mogorman: | i just want to go back |
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| [02:28:32] | mogorman: | after going into said menu |
| [02:29:15] | Juski: | ah |
| [02:29:30] | Juski: | the left arrow key? |
| [02:29:40] | mogorman: | that just rotates you around the chapters |
| [02:30:05] | Juski: | you misunderstand |
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| [02:30:10] | dhofstra: | mogorman, if you are using xine, you can change xine's keymap for esc to mean quit.. it does not mean quit by default in xine |
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| [02:30:20] | mogorman: | im not runing xine mplayer or internal |
| [02:30:24] | mogorman: | im just at the first menu |
| [02:30:54] | mogorman: | of rip dvd |
| [02:31:03] | dhofstra: | hrm, escape works here fine. I wonder if you have a focus issue... .try clicking the mouse on the screen and then hitting esc |
| [02:31:03] | mogorman: | so i have the chapters as options |
| [02:32:47] | phar0e: | do not be alarmed, I ordered a VIA Unichrome chipset mobo!!!! |
| [02:33:08] | mogorman: | yup was focus |
| [02:33:09] | mogorman: | thansk |
| [02:33:23] | mogorman: | right now im just running myth inside of gnome |
| [02:34:27] | mogorman: | i think ill have it running just in x |
| [02:34:29] | mogorman: | with no wm |
| [02:34:31] | mogorman: | when im done |
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| [02:35:22] | mogorman: | now if i could just get dvd ripping right... |
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| [02:39:27] | jerky_2: | is there a way to manually determine a channel's XMLTV ID? |
| [02:39:49] | jerky_2: | i did a scan for all of my channels and it found 8 out of 9 of them, but i have an extra channel with no on air guide and no XMLTV ID |
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| [02:42:01] | Juski: | jerky_2: for your xmltv grabber, there will be a file called channel_ids in /usr/share/xmltv/grabbername |
| [02:42:19] | Juski: | have a look in that file to see if the missing channel is mentioned |
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| [02:43:07] | jerky_2: | in /usr/share/xmltv i see subdirectories with foreign domains like tv_grab_au and tv_grab_ch |
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| [02:45:48] | Juski: | jerky_2: which xmltv grabber would you use? |
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| [02:47:32] | jerky_2: | i don't quite remember how i got these values |
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| [02:47:48] | jerky_2: | i used azap for something, then i used mythtv-setup and had it scan my antenna |
| [02:47:58] | jerky_2: | then i created a zap2it account and it did the rest |
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| [02:48:23] | Jusk1: | so add the channel you don't have guide data for to your zap2it account |
| [02:48:39] | Jusk1: | if it's not available at zap2it, you're kinda stuffed |
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| [02:49:47] | jerky_2: | when i scan my zip code on zap2it, it doesn't come up... so i might be screwed |
| [02:50:01] | jerky_2: | but the channel provider has a list of what's on... so the data is available to them |
| [02:50:14] | jerky_2: | they are a public television station, so maybe i can ask them to make tha tdata available publically |
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| [03:19:44] | tate: | wow, I just recorded my first show and this thing is Amaaaaaaazing |
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| [03:20:06] | tate: | One problem I am having though, my audio crackles and pops a lot |
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| [03:20:37] | jerky_2: | tate, did you try extra audio buffering? |
| [03:21:23] | tate: | I presume that option is in setup? |
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| [03:22:11] | jerky_2: | in the frontend... setup, setup, tv settings, playback |
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| [03:24:01] | JoshRA: | hello.I installed myythtv on unbuntu brezy badger and I can not tell if it took my tvtuner card and it says it can not access mysql. |
| [03:24:07] | JoshRA: | brezzy* |
| [03:25:27] | JoshRA: | The card is a EVGA Geforce 4 MMX|440 Personal Cinema |
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| [03:28:39] | JoshRA: | http://pastebin.ca/44847 |
| [03:28:48] | JoshRA: | is the errors i receive when i run it via CLI |
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| [03:35:29] | tate: | Ugh, my audio crackles and pops a lot and my extra audio buffering is enabled |
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| [03:36:35] | jerky_2: | tate, which distro? |
| [03:36:46] | jerky_2: | did you set up a default audio device in ALSA? (if using ALSA) |
| [03:36:55] | tate: | Ubuntu, an sblive with a hauppauge card |
| [03:37:34] | tate: | There is only the sblive, the onboard soundcard I disabled in bios |
| [03:37:51] | tate: | Alsa I believe just defaults to the sblive |
| [03:38:01] | jerky_2: | have you looked at the audio section of the wilsonet.com FAQ? i think he used an SBlive |
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| [03:40:26] | tate: | I'll check this tomorrow thanks |
| [03:40:34] | tate: | though, I am a little discouraged |
| [03:40:48] | tate: | this is an elementary set of hardware for this thing |
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| [03:41:51] | monolith: | hey all – how do you take a screenshot of live TV? |
| [03:42:08] | jerky_2: | tate, it's how we separate the men from the boys ;) but don't get discouraged... and if all else fails, try knoppmyth or FC4 |
| [03:43:27] | GreyFoxx: | monolith: You can only dothat if you force myth to NOT use XV for output first |
| [03:43:42] | GreyFoxx: | whichmeans stopping mythfrontend and running it with NO_XV=1 |
| [03:44:31] | monolith: | GreyFoxx, i think i'm gonna do that then |
| [03:44:35] | monolith: | thanks for the input |
| [03:44:39] | JoshRA: | I got he mysql issue fixed but it does not seem it lieks my card |
| [03:45:27] | JoshRA: | http://pastebin.ca/44850 |
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| [03:48:37] | JoshRA: | Does anyone have a clue on the reason? |
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| [03:49:49] | jerky_2: | JoshRA, which tv tuner card? |
| [03:50:09] | JoshRA: | It is built into my AGP |
| [03:50:30] | jerky_2: | if you ls /dev/dvb* and ls /dev/video* do you see something related to your card that you have permission to access? |
| [03:51:22] | JoshRA: | which is a EVGA gforce4 MX440 64MB 8x AGP |
| [03:51:25] | JoshRA: | no dvb |
| [03:51:35] | JoshRA: | and video thru vid 64 |
| [03:51:47] | JoshRA: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2006-03–07 22:08 /dev/video -> video0 |
| [03:52:16] | jerky_2: | i have to do chown mythtv:mythtv -R /dev/video so my mythtv user can access it |
| [03:52:34] | JoshRA: | what distro? |
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| [03:57:14] | jerky_2: | FC4 |
| [03:57:36] | jerky_2: | but your video device should be readable by a nonroot user, so you can run mythbackend / mythfrontend not as root |
| [03:59:11] | JoshRA: | well when i do setup |
| [03:59:20] | JoshRA: | it does not put anything in |
| [03:59:22] | JoshRA: | video |
| [03:59:26] | JoshRA: | input capture etc |
| [03:59:38] | JoshRA: | does not lket me do anything for input |
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| [04:07:14] | JoshRA: | h/ |
| [04:07:15] | JoshRA: | eh* |
| [04:08:45] | jerky_2: | so you have an mx440 with a TV tuner on it? |
| [04:08:53] | JoshRA: | yes |
| [04:10:11] | JoshRA: | lets install nvtv |
| [04:10:18] | monolith: | GreyFoxx, still no dice with the no_xv |
| [04:10:21] | JoshRA: | nvtv – Tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux |
| [04:11:50] | GreyFoxx: | monolith: It's NO_XV (all caps) |
| [04:11:56] | GreyFoxx: | so from a command prompt |
| [04:12:03] | monolith: | i did that ... |
| [04:12:04] | GreyFoxx: | "NO_XV=1 mythfrontend" |
| [04:12:07] | monolith: | oh shoot |
| [04:12:09] | monolith: | alright then |
| [04:12:16] | monolith: | i passed it as an argument into mythtv |
| [04:12:21] | JoshRA: | Okay. NVTV is for TVout |
| [04:12:37] | monolith: | where it got all confused and did a lot of nothign |
| [04:13:48] | JoshRA: | jerky_2: what kind of card do you have? |
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| [04:18:28] | jerky_2: | i have a pchdtv 3000 for my tuner, mx 440 for my video card |
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| [04:19:11] | JoshRA: | This is a evga card |
| [04:19:17] | JoshRA: | but a nvidia chipset |
| [04:23:40] | JoshRA: | I will have to ask the myth people in the lug i am in lol |
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| [05:07:14] | Laggy_McGee: | So, does MythTV compile on uClibc or not? |
| [05:08:33] | Laggy_McGee: | Or, more politely – I can't find any documentation on compiling MythTV with uClibc |
| [05:08:46] | Laggy_McGee: | can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| [05:15:07] | kcody_: | anyone's 2 cents please... two candidate boards for a backend-only box, a dual p3 1GHz w/768M at 133MHz, or a single p4 2AGHz with 256M at 400MHz |
| [05:16:53] | kcody_: | first board would presumably be best at reading data from the card, but could it move an HD stream from a firewire port, to the disk, and out the network port |
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| [05:17:57] | Beirdo: | there |
| [05:24:45] | mchou: | Beirdo: hey, you ever use mtd, by any chance? |
| [05:24:52] | Beirdo: | no |
| [05:25:12] | mchou: | Beirdo: ok |
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| [05:56:46] | hadees: | has anyone else noticed that some recordings have strange problems where they speed up for short amounts of time then go back to normal |
| [05:56:59] | hadees: | this is happening to me atleast in this new version |
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| [06:27:17] | buddy: | Good evening everyone |
| [06:31:06] | buddy: | hello?????????????????? |
| [06:32:46] | ** Agrajag- punches buddy in the face ** | |
| [06:33:17] | ** buddy slaps Agrajag- around a bit with a large trout ** | |
| [06:33:23] | buddy: | :) |
| [06:33:56] | Agrajag-: | politeness and friendliness are overrated |
| [06:34:01] | Agrajag-: | on the internet anyway :P |
| [06:34:09] | buddy: | lol |
| [06:34:49] | ** buddy passes Agrajag- a beer ** | |
| [06:34:53] | buddy: | :) |
| [06:35:55] | buddy: | besides i am here to ask a question conerning fc4 and nvidia |
| [06:36:36] | ** Agrajag- checks which channel he's in.. nope.. not #fc4 or #nvidia ** | |
| [06:36:59] | buddy: | but its concerning myttv new install |
| [06:37:27] | buddy: | this is a place to ask for mythtv help |
| [06:39:23] | Agrajag-: | yes, generally the most effective way of getting help is to actually ask a question |
| [06:39:55] | eiggirC: | hmmm – "default channel" is what always screws up my new installs |
| [06:40:05] | Agrajag-: | gotta go, good luck with figuring out a question to ask, cya |
| [06:40:08] | eiggirC: | next time before I fiddle with the mythbox I'll take photos of every screen |
| [06:40:32] | buddy: | lke you would know the answer? |
| [06:41:23] | buddy: | i see a error message saying failed t load GLX |
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| [06:43:53] | monkeypet: | Hi, how do I record the SAP (second audio programming) on a given channel? |
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| [06:59:23] | nomego: | How do I make mythmusic re-read the ID3-tags of the songs I've changed? |
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| [07:10:00] | feld: | ok i'm going out of my mind |
| [07:10:07] | feld: | fresh install 0.18 of mythtv |
| [07:10:23] | feld: | because of major issues with 0.19. fresh gentoo install. Never had this happen before: |
| [07:10:30] | feld: | mysql is screwed or something |
| [07:10:34] | feld: | mythtv setup doesnt work |
| [07:10:42] | feld: | it wont save anything into the database |
| [07:11:05] | feld: | i've nuked the whole database several times, fresh mysql several times, even a couple diff versions (4.1.x) |
| [07:11:14] | feld: | why wont it work? :( |
| [07:11:42] | feld: | error about tables missing and stuff, when they must be there! I created the mythtv database like every other install |
| [07:12:31] | monkeypet: | feld: did you try seeing what tables it is complaining about and seeing if the user has permissions to it? |
| [07:12:46] | feld: | well the mythtv user has to have perms to it |
| [07:13:05] | monkeypet: | feld: you verified it? |
| [07:13:07] | feld: | the mythtv database script provided by gentoo creates the database skeleton and creates a mythtv user with a mythtv password |
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| [07:13:25] | feld: | hrm let me try it as root though; I never thought that to be an issue |
| [07:13:48] | monkeypet: | mysql -u <user> -p <dbname> |
| [07:14:49] | feld: | yup works just fine monkeypet |
| [07:14:54] | feld: | user mythtv, password mythtv |
| [07:15:09] | monkeypet: | Can you manipulate the tables? |
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| [07:20:44] | feld: | "table mythtv.keybindinds doesnt exist" |
| [07:20:49] | feld: | *keybindings |
| [07:20:53] | feld: | things like that |
| [07:21:01] | feld: | it was "mythtv.settings" earlier |
| [07:22:18] | SlicerDicer-: | hi feld |
| [07:22:53] | feld: | hi |
| [07:22:58] | feld: | not having a good night here, SlicerDicer- :( |
| [07:23:03] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [07:23:20] | feld: | gentoo mythtv install was supposed to be 15 mins |
| [07:23:22] | feld: | its been hours |
| [07:23:40] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [07:24:03] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know SQL |
| [07:24:20] | SlicerDicer-: | damn be back in a min |
| [07:24:24] | SlicerDicer-: | I got serious gas pains heh |
| [07:24:35] | SlicerDicer-: | ate something that did not agree with me |
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| [07:37:39] | feld: | i have one hunch |
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| [07:38:00] | feld: | this is the first MythTV install where I *DIDNT* have the utf8 use flag set |
| [07:38:25] | feld: | even thought the mythtv guide says not to have it set because it breaks mythtv (never did for me) |
| [07:38:33] | feld: | so hrm... maybe that's the problem... |
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| [07:39:43] | feld: | argh, peer got him too :( |
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| [07:49:47] | feld: | ya gotta be f-ing kidding me |
| [07:49:57] | feld: | i have never, I repeat, NEVER had this problem before |
| [07:50:19] | feld: | i forced the conf file to use latin1 (gentoo defaults to utf8 even without the utf8 use flag) and it started working |
| [07:50:33] | ** feld bangs his head on the desk ** | |
| [07:50:37] | feld: | I could have used this info HOURS AGO |
| [07:50:47] | feld: | amazing how it worked before, though |
| [07:51:27] | feld: | whatever |
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| [08:04:51] | eiggirC: | feld: wiki it somewhere |
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| [08:30:29] | onetwo: | I want to record radio off of sky tv. Anyone have any ideas where I can get listings from and how to get them in the database? |
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| [08:34:26] | meaculpa: | lo |
| [08:34:39] | meaculpa: | I'm having problems with connecting a client to the server. The client log says: |
| [08:34:57] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 09:30:35.950 taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [08:35:34] | meaculpa: | And the server says: |
| [08:35:52] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 09:30:30.880 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully (using PS mode). |
| [08:35:52] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 09:30:30.883 DVB#0 CA: SetPMT for ServiceID=0 |
| [08:35:52] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 09:30:30.885 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. |
| [08:35:52] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 09:30:31.963 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [08:35:58] | meaculpa: | What are 'PIDS'????? |
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| [08:38:58] | phar0e: | PIDS, hmm has something to do with your signal and audio lock? not sure precisely |
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| [08:42:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | http://www.tech-notes.tv/Glossary/Glos%20files/p.htm |
| [08:42:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | http://www.broadcastpapers.com/sigdis/Tektron . . . glossary.htm |
| [08:43:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | meaculpa: those enough? those were in the top 5 results from googling for "mpeg pid stream glossary" |
| [08:43:41] | phar0e: | is there going to be a quiz on this? |
| [08:44:37] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, this is not very meaningfull. In stead of literally showing PIDs, could you combine that information with my specific problem? |
| [08:45:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | well, it says your channels aren't setup. did you configure your channels or use scan for them at least? |
| [08:45:57] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, absolutely. |
| [08:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the client wouldn't say those messages either, those are in the DVB code which is in the recorder. |
| [08:46:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | do you mean slave? |
| [08:46:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, so the server says the dvb stuff. nevermind. |
| [08:46:38] | phar0e: | POLL: What size screen do you watch your mythfrontend on? |
| [08:46:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | is this your first card setup in myth? |
| [08:46:52] | meaculpa: | DVB card is being detected, I did a scan which resulted in channels, I ran mythfilldatabase (and --manual), everything ran just fine. |
| [08:47:17] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, actually, I first tested with an ordinary v4l device (webcam) just to make sure it works. |
| [08:48:14] | Captain_Murdoch: | is this current SVN, v0.19, v0.18, or what? |
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| [08:48:36] | meaculpa: | 0.18.1 |
| [08:49:13] | Captain_Murdoch: | packages or .tar.gz? you really should use 0.19 if possible, there were huge improvements in the DVB code in the 0.19 release. |
| [08:49:35] | meaculpa: | Packages, Ubuntu based. |
| [08:50:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | are their 0.19 packages available yet? |
| [08:51:06] | pjn: | www.thehunter.ws |
| [08:51:18] | meaculpa: | Yup |
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| [08:54:09] | meaculpa: | I'll upgrade first. |
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| [08:58:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | that may cure your problem, Daniel spent a lot of time on DVB between 0.18 and 0.19. |
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| [08:58:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | I couldn't even find that error message when I grepped the current source, that's why I asked. |
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| [08:58:43] | masterc: | Yo! |
| [08:58:49] | masterc: | How's the Myth folks doin? |
| [08:58:54] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, just upgraded, i'll check again. |
| [08:59:48] | masterc: | I'm having problems compiling mythvideo, and am wondering if it's a Myth problem or a Gentoo problem, so I'll post up my error and you guys can tell me to go suck a cow, or let me know if it's a myth problem and possibly how to fix it. Cool? Okay, here goes my paste, it's a few lines... |
| [09:00:09] | masterc: | main.cpp: In function `void runVideoManager()': |
| [09:00:09] | masterc: | main.cpp:214: error: `addCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this function) |
| [09:00:09] | masterc: | main.cpp:214: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each |
| [09:00:09] | masterc: | function it appears in.) |
| [09:00:09] | masterc: | main.cpp:218: error: `removeCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this |
| [09:00:10] | masterc: | function) |
| [09:00:12] | masterc: | main.cpp: In function `void runVideoBrowser()': |
| [09:00:14] | masterc: | main.cpp:227: error: `addCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this function) |
| [09:00:16] | masterc: | main.cpp:231: error: `removeCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this |
| [09:00:18] | masterc: | function) |
| [09:00:20] | masterc: | main.cpp: In function `void runVideoTree()': |
| [09:00:22] | masterc: | main.cpp:241: error: `addCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this function) |
| [09:00:28] | masterc: | main.cpp:245: error: `removeCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this |
| [09:00:28] | masterc: | function) |
| [09:00:30] | masterc: | main.cpp: In function `void runVideoGallery()': |
| [09:00:32] | masterc: | main.cpp:275: error: `addCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this function) |
| [09:00:34] | masterc: | main.cpp:279: error: `removeCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this |
| [09:00:36] | masterc: | function) |
| [09:00:38] | masterc: | make[2]: *** [main.o] Error 1 |
| [09:00:40] | masterc: | make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... |
| [09:00:42] | masterc: | make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mythvideo-0.19/work/mythplugins-0.19/mythvideo/mythvideo' |
| [09:00:45] | masterc: | make[1]: *** [sub-mythvideo] Error 2 |
| [09:00:47] | masterc: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mythvideo-0.19/work/mythplugins-0.19/mythvideo' |
| [09:00:49] | masterc: | make: *** [sub-mythvideo] Error 2 |
| [09:00:52] | masterc: | !!! ERROR: media-plugins/mythvideo-0.19 failed. |
| [09:00:55] | masterc: | Call stack: |
| [09:00:59] | masterc: | And last one: |
| [09:01:01] | masterc: | ebuild.sh, line 1933: Called dyn_compile |
| [09:01:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | masterc, you have an old versino of libmyth sitting around somewhere, or you're trying to use current mythvideo with 0.18 mythtv |
| [09:01:09] | masterc: | ebuild.sh, line 971: Called src_compile |
| [09:01:11] | masterc: | ebuild.sh, line 1648: Called mythtv-plugins_src_compile |
| [09:01:13] | masterc: | !!! make failed to compile |
| [09:01:15] | masterc: | !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. |
| [09:01:33] | masterc: | Thanks! I'll look into it. |
| [09:01:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | use www.pastebin.com or something next time instead of the spam |
| [09:01:58] | masterc: | Oh, my appologies. |
| [09:02:17] | masterc: | Thanks for the fast response and the heads up on the irc etiquette. |
| [09:02:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) you're lucky it didn't auto-boot you, sometimes the server will do that. |
| [09:03:51] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, now I get a different error :( |
| [09:04:03] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:03:23.450 GetEntryAt(-1) failed. |
| [09:04:03] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:03:23.453 EntryToProgram(0@Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo |
| [09:04:03] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:03:23.453 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [09:05:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | have you run mythfilldatabase yet? |
| [09:05:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | or do you have any guide info? |
| [09:06:42] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, this is what I do: |
| [09:07:29] | meaculpa: | I stop the backend, ran mythtv-setup, went through all the menus, ran the XMLTV stuff, existed, start the backend, ran mythfilldatabase --manual. |
| [09:08:26] | masterc: | Woohoo! |
| [09:08:30] | masterc: | Success |
| [09:08:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | if you go into the program guide or finder without entering LiveTV, does it show any programs listed? |
| [09:09:27] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, I'd like to try that but is there a command-line option for 'mythtv' to NOT try to go to LiveTV immediately? I cannot start mythtv atm. |
| [09:09:32] | masterc: | At least past the point i was hanging before. Thanks a bunch, I did a locate but didn't find a thing. Then I found my old source, blindly did a make uninstall, and everything seems to be rolling well now (checked mythbackend and mythfrontend, looks like it's working just fine). |
| [09:09:44] | Captain_Murdoch: | don't run mythtv, you run mythfrontend. mythtv is a test executable |
| [09:11:18] | masterc: | ? Test executable? I just noticed that mythtv is there now (not before 0.19 right?) so what is a test executable, or what is *this* test exectable? I mean, what purpose does it serve. Thanks! |
| [09:11:59] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, this is in the server log: |
| [09:12:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | mythtv is just a program that we use to test things, it's not meant to be run by users. the program you should run is "mythfrontend", just like you run "mythbackend" for the backend/server part. |
| [09:12:04] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:09:31.614 DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for mplex 0 |
| [09:12:05] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:09:31.616 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 3. |
| [09:12:05] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:09:31.618 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 3. |
| [09:12:05] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:09:31.621 TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '' was not found in the database. |
| [09:12:05] | meaculpa: | Most likely, your DefaultTVChannel setting is wrong. |
| [09:12:05] | meaculpa: | Could not start livetv. |
| [09:12:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | so use mythfrontend to go into the guide and you can see what channels you have available and then you can go into mythtv-setup and set the start channel to one of those channels that do exist. |
| [09:14:00] | meaculpa: | Should the EPG be in the main menu? It is not... |
| [09:14:21] | sphery: | Manage Recordings|Program Guide |
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| [09:15:18] | meaculpa: | Not there: "Set Piorities", "Delete", "Previously", "Schedule" and "Upcoming" |
| [09:15:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | schedule |
| [09:16:05] | sphery: | oops |
| [09:16:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | the menus will be different depending on which menu theme you're using. I use the DVR one, I have to go 3 levels deep to find LiveTV because I rarely use it (hence the 'DVR' name of the menu theme) |
| [09:17:03] | meaculpa: | Got it. My channel is there, I can see it. |
| [09:17:24] | meaculpa: | So now go the mythtv-setup? |
| [09:17:49] | meaculpa: | (on the left, there seems to be 2 numbers: "3" and "1001"). |
| [09:18:06] | meaculpa: | (It seems that "1001" is the channel number. What is "3"?) |
| [09:21:03] | meaculpa: | On the client: 2006-03–08 10:19:11.072 RingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv//1000_20060308101908.mpg): Invalid file (fd 15) when opening '/var/lib/mythtv//1000_20060308101908.mpg'. 12 retries remaining. |
| [09:21:14] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:19:17.607 NVP, Error: JumpToProgram's OpenFile failed. |
| [09:21:14] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:19:17.607 NVP, Error: Unknown error, exiting decoder |
| [09:21:40] | sphery: | All 12 retries failed? |
| [09:21:44] | meaculpa: | Yez |
| [09:22:14] | sphery: | You probably already mentioned this, but what version of Myth? |
| [09:22:29] | sphery: | (don't feel like reading the entire backlog at 4:22am) |
| [09:22:34] | meaculpa: | 0.19 |
| [09:22:45] | meaculpa: | just upgraded from 0.18.1 |
| [09:23:06] | sphery: | From a package? |
| [09:23:10] | meaculpa: | yez |
| [09:23:31] | sphery: | do you know if it's built on the 0_19-fixes branch? |
| [09:23:59] | sphery: | Actually, before going to deep in there, are you using NFS or Samba for your recordings directory? |
| [09:24:09] | meaculpa: | http://deb.thehunter.ws/, I took 'mythtv-stable'. |
| [09:24:13] | meaculpa: | sphery, no. |
| [09:24:29] | meaculpa: | frontend and backend are still on the same machine |
| [09:24:33] | sphery: | Then that problem shouldn't be affecting you, so you shouldn't need -fixes. |
| [09:25:03] | meaculpa: | I have the impression that data got screwed up. |
| [09:25:21] | meaculpa: | Is there a way to check the integrity of the database? |
| [09:25:31] | sphery: | When you start LiveTV, do you see a file appear in /var/lib/mythtv/ ? |
| [09:25:56] | meaculpa: | hold on, let me try |
| [09:26:47] | meaculpa: | yez: 1000_20060308102618.mpg |
| [09:26:54] | meaculpa: | 7407764 Mar 8 10:26 1000_20060308102618.mpg |
| [09:27:00] | meaculpa: | 195 Mar 8 10:26 1000_20060308102618.mpg.png |
| [09:27:12] | sphery: | And is that the file that the log says is invalid? |
| [09:28:10] | meaculpa: | Euh, the log is complaining about 1000_20060308102619.mpg, which is a slightly filename! |
| [09:28:18] | meaculpa: | 18 versus 19 |
| [09:28:19] | sphery: | yeah... |
| [09:28:49] | sphery: | one second difference... |
| [09:29:01] | meaculpa: | The files just got deleted, and I say a 0-bytes file appear with the correct filename... |
| [09:29:09] | sphery: | Trying to remember what to search on for that one. Doesn't help that it's 4:30am |
| [09:29:24] | meaculpa: | no, 10:30 am... :-) |
| [09:29:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | the 18 is a "dummy" recording that is inserted while the tuner tunes, then once it has tuned properly, the 19 file is generated. usually these are 1 second later, but sometimes can be further apart if it takes a while for the tuner to tune (like if you have an antenna motor or switch or something) |
| [09:30:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | LiveTV files less than 2 minutes long get deleted automatically every few minutes |
| [09:30:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | if they are not in use. |
| [09:30:28] | meaculpa: | So maybe it doesn't tune correctly... |
| [09:30:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | anything odd in the backend? |
| [09:31:16] | meaculpa: | mythtv-setup has two channels, "3" and "10001", and I didn't see both of them in "mythfrontend/EPG", but I DID saw "1001" which I didn't see in mythtv-setup... |
| [09:31:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | possibly, but the frontend shouldn't look for the second file until the backend tunes correctly and generates it. |
| [09:32:09] | meaculpa: | Maybe I should nuke the database... |
| [09:32:33] | meaculpa: | A "Windows" approach... ;-) |
| [09:33:24] | meaculpa: | Any other ideas? |
| [09:33:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | what are the channels labeled in mythtv-setup? isn't one the "default" or something? I can't see that screen now as I don't have a tuner in my dev box. |
| [09:33:39] | masterc: | It'll kick me for pasting a lot of lines, but not someone for cussing... "windows"... |
| [09:33:57] | meaculpa: | masterc, LOL |
| [09:35:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | actually I think it says "Starting channel" did you see that? |
| [09:35:25] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, channel name is "Nederland 1", channel number is "10001", callsign "Nederland 1" |
| [09:35:50] | bio_: | anyone has a nice xorg-config for tvout and crt using one graphics-card? |
| [09:35:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | which screen? this is going to be on the "input connections" screen under your DVB input |
| [09:36:18] | masterc: | Ok, it's bedtime for me. Thanks again! Night folks. |
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| [09:37:07] | meaculpa: | Starting channel: 10001 |
| [09:38:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | and did that show in the guide? |
| [09:38:18] | meaculpa: | Captain_Murdoch, yez. |
| [09:39:03] | sphery: | meaculpa: did you leave External channel change command blank? |
| [09:39:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok. did you see anything odd in the backend logs when you tried to watch LiveTV? can you paste your backend log at www.pastebin.com and give us the link? |
| [09:40:11] | meaculpa: | sphery, I guess so... |
| [09:41:22] | meaculpa: | I'm making little progress, now I don't get an error from the frontend any more, but still no video. The backend says: |
| [09:41:39] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:39:49.279 DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for mplex 0 |
| [09:41:39] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:39:49.281 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 3. |
| [09:41:39] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:39:49.282 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 3. |
| [09:41:39] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:39:50.046 ProcessPAT: Program not found in PAT. |
| [09:41:39] | meaculpa: | Rescan your transports. |
| [09:41:58] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:39:50.048 Program #0 not found in PAT! |
| [09:41:58] | meaculpa: | Program Association Table |
| [09:41:58] | meaculpa: | PSIP prefix(0x0) tableID(0x0) length(21) extension(0xa) |
| [09:41:58] | meaculpa: | version(5) current(1) section(0) last_section(0) |
| [09:41:58] | meaculpa: | tsid: 10 |
| [09:41:59] | meaculpa: | programCount: 3 |
| [09:42:01] | meaculpa: | program number 10001 has PID 0x 44c data 0x39 0x17 0x228 0x76 |
| [09:42:03] | meaculpa: | program number 10002 has PID 0x 4b0 data 0x39 0x18 0x228 0x176 |
| [09:42:05] | meaculpa: | program number 10003 has PID 0x 514 data 0x39 0x19 0x229 0x20 |
| [09:42:07] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:39:50.049 Desired program #0 not found in PAT. |
| [09:42:09] | meaculpa: | Can Not create single program PAT. |
| [09:42:11] | meaculpa: | I'll upload to pastebin. |
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| [09:42:31] | bio_: | too late ;) |
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| [09:43:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | it's still not using your start channel. where did you see channel 3 in mythtv-setup? |
| [09:43:29] | sphery: | Your starting channel has been reset to 3--you'll need to set it again. Make sure you turn off mythbackend, then run mythtv-setup, fix the starting channel, exit mythtv-setup, and start mythbackend again. |
| [09:46:30] | meaculpa: | sphery, okay, I just did, but now I'm back to square one: (backend) 2006-03–08 10:45:39.618 DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for mplex 0 |
| [09:46:30] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:45:39.619 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 3. |
| [09:46:30] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:45:39.621 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 3. |
| [09:46:30] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 10:45:39.625 TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '' was not found in the database. |
| [09:46:30] | meaculpa: | Most likely, your DefaultTVChannel setting is wrong. |
| [09:46:32] | meaculpa: | Could not start livetv. |
| [09:46:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | make sure you're not ESCaping out of the screens in mythtv-setup, hit ENTER on the finish buttons |
| [09:46:59] | meaculpa: | ACK |
| [09:47:01] | meaculpa: | I didd |
| [09:47:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok |
| [09:50:37] | meaculpa: | I've nuke the entire setup; re-doing it from scratch. |
| [09:50:42] | meaculpa: | s/nuke/nuked/ |
| [09:51:04] | sphery: | Was just about to brute-force it another way (mysql...) |
| [09:51:09] | sphery: | Guess it doesn't matter now... |
| [09:51:13] | sphery: | :) |
| [09:51:21] | meaculpa: | :) |
| [09:51:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | I don't see where the 2nd channel on the setup screen is coming from. I only see one on my air2pc card which uses the DVB driver for ATSC HD video. |
| [09:55:23] | meaculpa: | Okay, in mythtv-setup, when exiting the application, I get "Card 1 (type DVBInput) is set to start on channel 3, which does not exists. Do you want to fix this problem?" Ofc I say yes, but although the Channel Editor shows channels, I cannot setup a channel as a "default channel" at the "input" menu!?!? |
| [09:55:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | can't setup why? can you not type in that box? |
| [09:56:11] | meaculpa: | "Starting channel" remains empty; there are no items to chose from. |
| [09:56:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's why I asked, can you type in that box? |
| [09:56:34] | meaculpa: | Hold on... |
| [09:56:43] | meaculpa: | No |
| [09:56:50] | sphery: | Which page are you on? |
| [09:56:57] | meaculpa: | Input connection |
| [09:57:43] | meaculpa: | I added the video source, ran the scan, found the channels, but I cannot set a default channel, sort of... |
| [09:57:58] | Captain_Murdoch: | I thought that used to be a lineedit, but now it's a combobox, that explains why you can't type in it. |
| [09:58:04] | sphery: | OK, it is a drop down list, now. |
| [09:58:28] | sphery: | Have you selected a valid video source that has channels defined? |
| [09:58:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | or maybe it's a lineedit in the ivtv page but a combobox for DVB. can't remember. |
| [09:58:54] | sphery: | I think you're right--it used to be a text box in mythtv-setup. |
| [10:03:18] | meaculpa: | I quitted mythtv-setup, started the backend, ran mythfilldatabase --manual, stopped the backend and started mythtv-setup: now I can choose a "starting channel" (I picked '3'). |
| [10:04:30] | meaculpa: | BAH |
| [10:04:32] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 11:04:00.156 DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for mplex 0 |
| [10:04:32] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 11:04:00.159 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 3. |
| [10:04:32] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 11:04:00.161 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 3. |
| [10:04:32] | meaculpa: | 2006-03–08 11:04:00.164 TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '' was not found in the database. |
| [10:04:32] | meaculpa: | Most likely, your DefaultTVChannel setting is wrong. |
| [10:04:34] | meaculpa: | Could not start livetv. |
| [10:05:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | so maybe pick something other than 3 since that's the same error you were getting earlier. :) |
| [10:05:42] | sphery: | I think there's a disconnect between your xmltvid's and your scanned channels or something like that |
| [10:05:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | are you restarting the backend after you run mythv-setup each time? |
| [10:05:57] | sphery: | but I don't know enough about DVB setup to say for sure. |
| [10:06:16] | meaculpa: | Even the EPG is missing now... :( |
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| [10:09:05] | meaculpa: | I've had it for now. Time to get the kids from school. sphery, Captain_Murdoch, thank you so much for you time and efforts. I feel kinda dumb. I'll probably nuke the entire installation (maybe something went wrong during the upgrade van 0.18.1 -> 0.19?) and restart from the beginning...) |
| [10:09:21] | sphery: | good luck |
| [10:09:28] | sphery: | sorry I wasn't any help |
| [10:09:33] | Captain_Murdoch: | ditto. I need sleep now. :( |
| [10:09:35] | sphery: | I should get to bed, anyway. |
| [10:10:10] | meaculpa: | There are amazing ppl on IRC, just briljant! Thanks dudes! |
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| [10:19:46] | beavis: | there are two giant tables in my mythconverg (program (22MB) and recordedmarkup (55MB)), aren't they supposed to automatically be cleaned up? |
| [10:20:52] | beavis: | program should contain the EPG data, but what's recordedmarkup for? |
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| [10:32:06] | bio_: | what is a good bitrate for mpeg2 recording? minimum 3.5 mbit, max 10 mbit? |
| [10:33:03] | Juski: | depends on your definition of 'good' |
| [10:33:10] | Juski: | and what the materiel is |
| [10:33:13] | Juski: | *material |
| [10:33:29] | bio_: | well, good-looking on the tv :) |
| [10:33:33] | Juski: | sports need a higher bitrate to look as good as say, a period drama |
| [10:33:50] | bio_: | oh |
| [10:34:12] | Juski: | I use the defaults & find them to be fine for my uses |
| [10:34:16] | bio_: | well the above is what i read would be the range dvds are encoded |
| [10:34:34] | Juski: | I don't know what it looks like for action movies or sports though |
| [10:34:42] | greg__: | i use the defaults too bio_, and find them fine. If its just SD I don't think there's much point in going crazy |
| [10:34:48] | bio_: | hmm, changed the defaults quite a while ago, so i dont know anymore what they were |
| [10:34:59] | greg__: | they're 3.5mbit to either 5 ot 6 i think |
| [10:35:05] | bio_: | im not watching any sports too |
| [10:35:11] | bio_: | ok, thx |
| [10:35:23] | Juski: | you'll see more difference setting the resolution to a better one |
| [10:35:53] | greg__: | i record/display at pal native, on the assumption it'll be the best quality |
| [10:35:58] | greg__: | tbh i can't really spot a difference |
| [10:36:05] | Juski: | i.e. capture at more than 480x480 ;-) |
| [10:36:08] | greg__: | tho i havent tried anything below 640x480 |
| [10:36:19] | bio_: | yeah, when i recompiled it ill set it to 768x576 if that works |
| [10:36:22] | Juski: | there's a huge difference between 480x480 & 720x576 |
| [10:36:35] | Gumby: | hrm, I am starting to dislike the wilson.net way of installing mythtv via atrpms and freshrpms. I keep getting a fair amount of issues |
| [10:36:49] | Juski: | welcome to the real world ;) |
| [10:37:11] | greg__: | i like the ubuntu debs. easy to recompile them yourselves and you get handy .debs to install |
| [10:37:39] | Gumby: | 2006-03–07 18:00:13.001 Commercial Flagging Starting for Overhaulin' "SEMA" recorded from channel 1034 at Tue Mar 7 16:50:00$ |
| [10:37:39] | Gumby: | 2006-03–07 18:00:16.881 Using runtime prefix = /usr |
| [10:37:39] | Gumby: | /usr/bin/mythcommflag: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: _ZNK14QLocalePrivate16stringToLongLongE7QStr7:95PbNS_18GroupSeparatorModeE |
| [10:37:57] | ** Gumby shakes his fist in frustration!! ** | |
| [10:38:00] | Juski: | nice flood |
| [10:38:13] | Gumby: | 3 lines is considered a flood here? |
| [10:38:23] | Juski: | lol no |
| [10:39:00] | Juski: | that's some symbol name though |
| [10:39:07] | greg__: | if you've more than 1 line, just stick it in pastebin and post the url here. We can have entire conversations through pastebin urls ;) |
| [10:39:07] | Gumby: | no kidding |
| [10:39:14] | bio_: | damn, getting compile erros now, when everything compiled fine yesterday :/ |
| [10:39:19] | greg__: | this channel should have nothing but pastebin links ;) |
| [10:39:23] | Gumby: | lol |
| [10:39:29] | Gumby: | that'd be tough |
| [10:39:31] | greg__: | :) |
| [10:39:44] | Gumby: | greg__: www.pastebin.ca/fdgrthbxxgd!!ggh |
| [10:39:44] | Juski: | people would ask dumb questions less though |
| [10:39:49] | Gumby: | lol |
| [10:39:52] | greg__: | hehe |
| [10:40:14] | Gumby: | Juski: possibly not.... you'd get a lot of... whats a pastebin? |
| [10:40:17] | Juski: | www.pastebin.com/#isanybodyusingMythTV? |
| [10:40:17] | greg__: | haha |
| [10:41:02] | Gumby: | I was able to install ubuntu debs on a slave backend I was using |
| [10:41:12] | Gumby: | maybe I should go back to debian and use it |
| [10:41:19] | Gumby: | I'm not liking fedora much |
| [10:41:45] | greg__: | i used debian at first, but i needed xorg for the unichrome drivers. had to compile it from source and install it |
| [10:41:51] | greg__: | ubuntu seemed the easier way second time round :) |
| [10:42:00] | greg__: | xorg takes a while to compile on a via epia |
| [10:42:04] | Gumby: | lol |
| [10:42:14] | Juski: | I know |
| [10:42:23] | Juski: | which is why I use minimyth |
| [10:42:25] | Gumby: | my epia is sitting there getting dusty on my shelf |
| [10:42:51] | Juski: | I'll have it |
| [10:42:55] | Merlin83b: | Me too. |
| [10:42:56] | greg__: | mines my frontend, it's not really a epia, it's a sp13000, whatever the name for those newer ones is then |
| [10:42:57] | Gumby: | haha, no you wont |
| [10:43:04] | Merlin83b: | Mmm, Epia. |
| [10:43:14] | Merlin83b: | FE/BE dual tuner M10k working lovely. |
| [10:43:30] | Gumby: | thats what I have IIRC. 10k |
| [10:43:39] | Gumby: | its been awhile since I looked. hehe |
| [10:43:50] | Gumby: | it was for a carpc but that project has been halted for now |
| [10:43:59] | Juski: | carpc.. lol |
| [10:44:14] | Juski: | "steal me" |
| [10:44:15] | Merlin83b: | Oh, another thing you might know Juski or stuarta when he's around. The OSD won't go away when it times out now, I have to do it manually. Known bug or easy fix? Seems to have happened while I was away. |
| [10:44:35] | Juski: | Merlin83b: I last ran SVN weeks ago |
| [10:44:44] | Gumby: | Juski: it wont be obvious that there is a carpc in the car |
| [10:44:45] | Merlin83b: | Wuss :-P |
| [10:44:50] | Juski: | and I've still not got round to buying a new AGP card for my 'bongo box |
| [10:45:18] | Juski: | I have a WAF of 10/10 and want to keep it that way |
| [10:45:19] | Merlin83b: | How come you're not following svn, Juski? |
| [10:45:27] | Juski: | ^^^ |
| [10:45:30] | Gumby: | bongo box? |
| [10:45:39] | Juski: | umbongo ;) |
| [10:46:49] | Merlin83b: | The OSD problem has a ticket, so that may be a good thing. |
| [10:47:08] | Juski: | anyway apart from a fancy menu fade effect that I'll probably have to disable on my EPIA frontend what would SVN offer me other than needing to be looked after? |
| [10:47:22] | Merlin83b: | Haha, remember how I was talking about choosing transcoding profile? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1416 |
| [10:47:30] | Juski: | heh |
| [10:47:55] | Merlin83b: | I disabled the menu fade. I upgraded to see if it would fix that thing where files weren't being made. It seems to have done (fingers crossed) |
| [10:48:22] | Juski: | I've never run glxgears to see if opengl works on my epia |
| [10:48:43] | Juski: | I might have to get a PCI FX5200 if it doesn't |
| [10:49:04] | Gumby: | so I order a minipci wifi card and get it hope today and plug it in only to receive a bios message saying there is an unsupported wifi device plugged in and to power down and remove it before booting. |
| [10:49:10] | Merlin83b: | The change to OpenGL menu stuff just about killed mine yesterday. I'm willing to say OpenGL doesn't work. |
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| [10:49:24] | Gumby: | apparantly my lappy (among other lappies) have whitelisted wifi cards in the bios and only they will work |
| [10:49:41] | Juski: | Merlin83b: unacceptable. how long has the unichrome driver been going? |
| [10:50:11] | Merlin83b: | Juski: No idea. I say it should work to, but it doesn't seem to. It worked, just mind numbingly slowly. |
| [10:50:13] | Juski: | Gumby: that's pretty sucky |
| [10:50:20] | Gumby: | Juski: yeah, no kidding. |
| [10:50:26] | Merlin83b: | Took 20 seconds or something to change to a new menu. |
| [10:50:35] | Juski: | Merlin83b: wah! |
| [10:51:02] | Juski: | that's bobbins |
| [10:51:08] | Merlin83b: | It certainly is. |
| [10:51:16] | Gumby: | aparantly one can hex edit the bios to get it to work. or hot swap the wifi card after bios post but before kernel boot and then change the ID of the card with some software. |
| [10:51:31] | Gumby: | hot swapping minipci cards sounds scary |
| [10:51:42] | Juski: | Gumby: and ill-advised |
| [10:52:49] | phar0e: | the new menu fade is awesome, I spent 2 hours going inbetween menus |
| [10:52:55] | Gumby: | lol |
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| [10:53:10] | Juski: | pfft |
| [10:53:58] | Juski: | a stack of buttons whizzing onto the screen & overshooting their final position before 'elastic banding' into place.. oh yeh |
| [10:54:30] | Juski: | but if we EPIA users can't get more than 1fps in glxgears there's no point ;-) |
| [10:54:53] | phar0e: | I ordered a Unichrome pro , hooooooya |
| [10:55:11] | greg__: | cool |
| [10:56:49] | phar0e: | mythtv makes me sad... |
| [10:57:02] | phar0e: | last night's 24 episode it showed me... *sniffles* |
| [10:57:42] | phar0e: | but it also makes me happy (helooooooooooooo ms. cuthbert) |
| [10:58:22] | Gumby: | ok, this makes no sense. mythcommflag worked on the 5th, but is broken on the 7th. And I have made 0 sortware changes |
| [10:58:27] | Gumby: | software changes either |
| [10:58:48] | ** Gumby kicks fedora in the junk. ** | |
| [10:58:59] | Gumby: | I knew there was a reason why I hadnt tried redhat in 3 years |
| [10:59:14] | phar0e: | you haven't flagged commercials in 3 years? |
| [10:59:23] | phar0e: | or haven't made software changes in 3 years? both are bad |
| [10:59:27] | Gumby: | how do you figure that? |
| [10:59:33] | phar0e: | oh |
| [10:59:39] | Gumby: | I just said I hadnt used redhat in 3 years. lol |
| [10:59:44] | phar0e: | I uhm, read that last sentence and left out a few words |
| [10:59:51] | Gumby: | lol |
| [11:00:01] | Gumby: | get off the bong man |
| [11:00:41] | phar0e: | I couldn't figure out how to install redhat/fedora, it was trying to be too simple and ended up confusing me |
| [11:01:10] | phar0e: | something about the harddrive, i wanted it to only use a little and it said it had to use the entire disk |
| [11:01:40] | phar0e: | yo gumby how large is your frontend screen? |
| [11:02:00] | Gumby: | whatever res a tv is @ |
| [11:02:16] | Gumby: | I think in Xorg its 1024x768 |
| [11:02:18] | phar0e: | I mean the size of the tv |
| [11:02:28] | Gumby: | 27" I think |
| [11:02:55] | phar0e: | I have a 27" analog TV too, and I can't afford a large HDTV like that so I think I'm going to use my 19" LCD monitor instead |
| [11:03:09] | phar0e: | I figure if I position the screen close enough to my face it won't matter |
| [11:03:22] | Gumby: | lol |
| [11:03:33] | phar0e: | it's for my bedroom's frontend :D |
| [11:04:28] | phar0e: | you read that crazy guy on the mailing lists? he wants his myth box to follow him around the house so he can watch survivor on his way to the pot by having myth know this and displaying his show on his hallway frontend |
| [11:04:32] | phar0e: | I found it very funny |
| [11:04:46] | Gumby: | lol |
| [11:06:30] | phar0e: | favourite TV shows = ? ? ? |
| [11:06:51] | ** Gumby is currently lol'ing @ Ali G ** | |
| [11:07:12] | phar0e: | yeah I have that set to record anytime it's on, it's very funny |
| [11:07:22] | phar0e: | I just saw the police episode |
| [11:08:57] | Gumby: | I saw Sacha Cohen on the daily show. he sounds exactly like ali g when he talks but he doesnt talk with the slang that ali g does... its odd |
| [11:09:48] | phar0e: | Sacha cohen is the actor that plays ali G? |
| [11:10:58] | Gumby: | yeah |
| [11:11:35] | Gumby: | he is being sued by khasikstan for his portrayal of borat |
| [11:11:35] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [11:11:54] | phar0e: | woah woah, he plays both ali g and borat? does he play the gay german too? |
| [11:12:07] | Gumby: | I think so |
| [11:12:13] | Gumby: | I believe he is all the characters |
| [11:12:16] | phar0e: | I had no idea, I just think they are funny |
| [11:12:24] | phar0e: | I saw borat on conan once |
| [11:12:29] | Juski: | did I just see Elisha Cuthbert has whined her was back to '24' ? arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! |
| [11:13:03] | Gumby: | "In response to Mr Ashykbayev [Kazakhstan’s Foreign Minister] comments, I like to state I have no connection with Mr Cohen. |
| [11:13:03] | Gumby: | I support my government’s decision to sue this Jew." |
| [11:13:09] | phar0e: | hell yes juski, HELL YES' |
| [11:13:16] | Juski: | hell no... |
| [11:13:24] | Juski: | she got kidnapped again? |
| [11:13:28] | phar0e: | juski, do you drive on the other side of the road.... if you know what I mean... |
| [11:13:38] | Gumby: | that was "Borat's" response in an interview when asked about khasicstan gov't suing Sacha Cohen |
| [11:13:43] | Gumby: | hehe, freakin hilarious |
| [11:13:47] | Juski: | I'm not gay. I just don't like whiny women |
| [11:14:08] | phar0e: | gotta evaluate the pros and cons of a woman like a nice piece of hardware |
| [11:14:31] | phar0e: | maybe the bios is faulty and you have to flash it first... but the optical drives are phenomenal |
| [11:14:56] | Gumby: | phar0e: http://www.borat.tv/responsevideo.html |
| [11:15:56] | Juski: | actually I'm thinking out of context.. but she's the stereotypical damsel in distress |
| [11:16:39] | Gumby: | http://www.hahmed.com/blog/2005/12/16/nyc-mta . . . ed-responds/ |
| [11:17:00] | phar0e: | I gotta research the show some more |
| [11:17:45] | Gumby: | borat used to have his own website on a .kz domain, but the khasikstan govt removed it |
| [11:17:45] | Gumby: | lol |
| [11:17:54] | greg__: | phar0e trust me, flashing them first is a bad approach |
| [11:18:02] | phar0e: | haha |
| [11:18:07] | greg__: | if a dozen court cases have taught me nothing else, it's that |
| [11:18:43] | phar0e: | yeah you're right Gumby , he plays all 3 characters... |
| [11:19:27] | Gumby: | I wonder if there is video of him on the daily show |
| [11:19:45] | phar0e: | wonder if I could set mythtv to record anything with certain actor's names in it so I get all the talk shows |
| [11:20:09] | phar0e: | I do know he's married to the chick from wedding crashers, the wild and crazy redhead australian one |
| [11:20:34] | phar0e: | sweet mythtv can do this ! ! |
| [11:21:36] | phar0e: | and yes I'm going to add an elisha cuthbert and kiefer sutherland entry too |
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| [11:22:30] | greg__: | phar0e if you go into the mysql queries you can get it to do pretty much anything like that |
| [11:22:49] | greg__: | so just shows that feature "Elisha Cuthbert" and "nude" in there description, or whatever |
| [11:22:58] | greg__: | but that might not get many results :( |
| [11:23:15] | phar0e: | Elisha is on jimmy kimmel tomorrow! |
| [11:29:47] | bio_: | 720x576 is the maximum resolution i can get with ivtv? getting "ivtv driger has stopped responding" when setting to native pal resolution |
| [11:31:12] | greg__: | 720x576 is native pal surely? |
| [11:31:28] | greg__: | youy watching SD? |
| [11:31:35] | bio_: | what i figured out 768x576 is native pal |
| [11:31:56] | greg__: | i think it's really 720x576. they can broadcast more horizontal lines |
| [11:32:00] | bio_: | thats also max-resolution i can set in mythfrontend, but when i do so, above mentioned errormessage occurs |
| [11:32:03] | greg__: | but for some reason it works out as 720x576. |
| [11:32:16] | Juski: | 720x576 is the resolution of PAL DVD |
| [11:32:48] | greg__: | so is tv not 720x576 Juski? |
| [11:33:17] | bio_: | http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32575 |
| [11:33:19] | Juski: | DVB-T is 720x576 or 704x576 |
| [11:33:25] | bio_: | thats where i took my information |
| [11:33:39] | Juski: | based on square pixels, PAL TV is 768x576 I think |
| [11:33:46] | bio_: | On the PC the TV picture can be displayed in various resolutions, up to the native PAL resolution (768x576) |
| [11:33:50] | greg__: | bio_, the openchrome driver even has special NoScale modes at 720x576 and 720x480 |
| [11:34:06] | greg__: | i think those are the correct resolutions for a tv |
| [11:34:11] | Juski: | just go with 720x576 – it's good enough for DVD ;-) |
| [11:34:17] | greg__: | the other horizontal lines are off the top or the bottom |
| [11:34:17] | bio_: | oh well, im satisfied with 720x576 |
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| [11:35:06] | Juski: | 720 pixels wide gives you almost 6Mhz video bandwidth, which is very good |
| [11:35:13] | bio_: | yeah, everything working nice now. last to things i have to manage is getting correct signal over tvout and using my mobile with bemused to control mythtv over bluetooth |
| [11:35:37] | bio_: | two |
| [11:36:02] | greg__: | Juski, you have any ideas about moving the x display very slightly left on my tv? It's slightly off the right, and theres some black on the left |
| [11:36:09] | bio_: | anyone has xorg.conf using tvout and crt of one graphics adapter simultaneously at different resolutions? |
| [11:36:12] | greg__: | the modeline is a hard-coded part of the openchrome driver |
| [11:36:14] | greg__: | so i think i'm shafted |
| [11:36:21] | greg__: | my tv doesn;t seem to support moving it |
| [11:36:35] | greg__: | not me bio_ |
| [11:36:49] | greg__: | i think the card would need to be twin-head internally for that |
| [11:36:54] | bio_: | do you think that could work anyway? |
| [11:37:01] | Juski: | greg__: 720x576Noscale looks off centre on my TV, but that's what the GUI appearance offsets are for ;) |
| [11:37:01] | bio_: | hm yeah, thought so :/ |
| [11:37:01] | greg__: | doubt it on most cards |
| [11:37:19] | greg__: | Juski they don't affect it unfortunately. just more of the image is truncated or less |
| [11:37:25] | greg__: | the black line on lhs of screen stays there |
| [11:37:29] | Juski: | works fine on 0.19 here |
| [11:37:38] | greg__: | it's not a mythtv thing, it's xorg i think |
| [11:37:43] | greg__: | the xorg desktop is the same |
| [11:37:48] | Juski: | greg__: try xvidtune |
| [11:38:17] | greg__: | hmm that's a good idea, i'd forgotten about that |
| [11:38:18] | greg__: | thanks |
| [11:38:21] | Juski: | you could always make your own modeline |
| [11:38:25] | greg__: | i can;t |
| [11:38:29] | greg__: | they're hard-coded into the driver |
| [11:38:44] | greg__: | it ignores other mode-lines |
| [11:39:39] | Juski: | I saw a tweaking util for Via VGA once |
| [11:40:40] | greg__: | i tried googling for one but didn't find it. I'll try again. the display is ok, but it'd be nice to have perfect edges |
| [11:41:01] | Juski: | strange, cos most TVs overscan by 5% or more |
| [11:41:17] | Juski: | is it an LCD TV or something? |
| [11:41:33] | greg__: | nope crt. it's perfect using the analogue signal directly |
| [11:41:41] | greg__: | and 800x600 fits, but 720x576noscale underscans on left |
| [11:41:59] | greg__: | but as you know , the noscale resolutions turn off the filter crap in the graphics chip |
| [11:42:02] | greg__: | so i want one of them :) |
| [11:42:20] | Juski: | greg__: I think you can turn them off in xorg.conf |
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| [11:42:59] | greg__: | i'd like to display at the tv's native resolution too, so there's no scaling in it. Or that's my understanding of things |
| [11:43:06] | greg__: | i'm fairly new to this, so that could be wrong |
| [11:43:10] | bio_: | is it possible to set non-standard resolutions in xorg? like 720x576 |
| [11:43:17] | greg__: | i'll try xvidtune when i get home, hopefully it'll do the trick |
| [11:43:31] | greg__: | yep bio_. you need a modeline, unless your driver includes it |
| [11:43:38] | Juski: | greg__: you by any chance tried 720x576Over ? |
| [11:43:58] | greg__: | yep Juski, something horrible happened :) i can't remember exactly what. i think the display was garbled |
| [11:44:03] | greg__: | with wrapped lines. |
| [11:44:39] | Juski: | you know.. my minimyth.conf file has a line for putting your own modeline in, so maybe unichrome/openchrome supports custom modelines |
| [11:44:43] | greg__: | i'll put a magnet on the LHS of the screen. that should adjust the display that inch left i need :) |
| [11:44:56] | greg__: | i asked libv about it, he says they don't unfortunately |
| [11:45:53] | phar0e: | that is soooooo cool |
| [11:48:01] | Juski: | http://www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/unichromeTvOut.html |
| [11:48:13] | greg__: | read that too, thank you though |
| [11:49:11] | greg__: | i'm cautiously optomistic xvidtune will work. if it does i can put the cmd in the .gnomerc for mythtv |
| [11:49:24] | greg__: | bit lame but if it works :) |
| [11:50:53] | k-man__: | do i have to do anything special to get myth 0.19 to work with mysql 5.0? |
| [11:51:51] | greg__: | there are some timeout issues with not the latest .19 svn |
| [11:51:56] | greg__: | you having problems? |
| [11:52:58] | k-man__: | no... i'm wondering if i should upgrade to 5.0 or wait |
| [11:53:07] | k-man__: | currently running 4.whatever |
| [11:53:27] | Calroth: | doesn't xvidtune just tweak the modeline? |
| [11:53:29] | greg__: | i don't know of any particular reason to upgrade to 5.0 |
| [11:53:43] | greg__: | Calroth it generates a modeline, but if i remember right it also shifts the x display as you use it |
| [11:53:47] | Juski: | k-man__: if it ain't broke.. repeat after me... ;-) |
| [11:53:52] | k-man__: | yeah |
| [11:53:58] | k-man__: | good point |
| [11:54:01] | Calroth: | yeah, that's what it does, change the modeline on the fly to shift the display around |
| [11:54:27] | Juski: | at worst it'll do nothing at all, but it's worth a shot |
| [11:54:38] | greg__: | so i'm hopeful it'll work. The modeline may be loaded from a hard-coded list, but after that hopefully xvidtune can treat it like normal |
| [11:54:43] | greg__: | i dunno. worth trying anyway |
| [11:54:47] | Calroth: | xvidtune did nothing at all for my nvidia tv-out, but that might just be a nvidia thing |
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| [11:55:06] | greg__: | hehe, quiet you. i'm clinging to the faint hope :P |
| [11:55:07] | Calroth: | actually I think it may have crashed it at some point :-) |
| [11:55:10] | greg__: | lol |
| [11:55:12] | Calroth: | sorry ;-) |
| [11:55:17] | greg__: | was there any fire? ;) |
| [11:55:29] | Juski: | Calroth: you can tweak the modeline all you want, but the TV encoder on the nvidia cards is set to use 'whatever' resolution & re-scale it |
| [11:55:39] | Calroth: | no fire :-) |
| [11:56:18] | Calroth: | yeah, I would have thought that 720x576 is 720x576, and it would be fixed |
| [11:56:42] | Juski: | you can use nvidia-settings to scale the overscan so it fits your TV properly |
| [11:56:52] | Calroth: | but then, those 720 horizontal pixels aren't actually all used... iirc, only 702 are onscreen, the rest should be overscan (and macrovision crap, etc.) |
| [11:57:05] | Calroth: | so there might be something to tweak to shift the display horizontally |
| [11:57:11] | greg__: | yeah, damned if i can find it |
| [11:57:20] | Juski: | TV encoder registers |
| [11:57:22] | greg__: | it does run over the right so i'm sure theres more data there to be shifted left |
| [11:57:27] | greg__: | oh baby jesus |
| [11:57:29] | greg__: | :) |
| [11:57:30] | Calroth: | can you tweak it on your tv set? damn the other channels ;-) |
| [11:57:36] | greg__: | nope Calroth, piece of junk tv |
| [11:57:43] | greg__: | i only use the pvr anyway, so that'd be perfect |
| [11:57:43] | Calroth: | damn |
| [11:57:59] | greg__: | all it has is the ability to rotate the image slightly |
| [11:58:00] | greg__: | handy! |
| [11:58:06] | Juski: | I used Digital Video Essentials a while back to make sure my TV out was set right |
| [11:58:41] | Juski: | greg__: my panasonic has a service menu, but YMMV with service menus |
| [11:58:58] | Juski: | you can break your TV if you muck it up |
| [11:59:15] | Calroth: | well, if the tv is junk anyway... |
| [11:59:43] | greg__: | hmm, a special hidden menu? no mention of that in the manual of course. and no hits on google for my tv apart from that. i'll google for jvc service menu. cheers |
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| [11:59:44] | Calroth: | people were talking about 768x576 before... because each scanline is "analog", it should actually be possible to get that number of horizontal "pixels" in |
| [12:00:11] | Calroth: | i think that computers like the amiga used such "hi-res" modes to get more onscreen |
| [12:00:13] | greg__: | Calroth the lines of 'pixels' are one continuos line? so a bit of scaling doesn't matter? |
| [12:00:24] | greg__: | its not individual pixels at all? |
| [12:00:37] | Calroth: | whilst the number of vertical lines are fixed, think of each line across the screen as a continuous wave |
| [12:00:44] | greg__: | cool, i wondered about that |
| [12:00:52] | Calroth: | it's an analog format, after all |
| [12:01:03] | Calroth: | whether your tv-out supports 768 horizontal pixels is another matter |
| [12:01:43] | [Yatta[: | morning ppl.... i was wondering.. iis there a way to get my channel listing from tvguide.com to xmltv??? |
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| [12:03:20] | Juski: | fscking hell... more posts from users with 'mythtv no worky' – no logs, no info.. just 'no worky worky'. idiots |
| [12:04:57] | greg__: | hehe |
| [12:05:03] | [Yatta]: | i'm just trying to get TV Listings .. I'm in jamaica... and i see my listings from the tvguide websits |
| [12:05:30] | [Yatta]: | if i was in the US i know i could esily use zap2it and put in my zipcode.. and voila!!! |
| [12:06:21] | phar0e: | I saw a commercial(I know most of you don't know what these are) about jamaica... they said they don't take life seriously |
| [12:06:34] | Juski: | [Yatta]: the time is right for somebody to write an xmltv guide program for Jamaica ;-) |
| [12:06:55] | [Yatta]: | yuh see me... i'm not a programmer... but i would love to learn how todo that |
| [12:07:28] | Calroth: | http://www.uwasa.fi/~f76998/video/modes/ |
| [12:07:32] | Juski: | [Yatta] it should be quite simple – all you'll be doing is scraping the html (if tvguide.com will allow it) |
| [12:07:34] | Calroth: | some nice technical details about PAL, scanlines etc |
| [12:07:58] | [Yatta]: | can someone lead to me to righ t direction to at least TRY and make a xmltv guide for Ja?? |
| [12:09:17] | Juski: | [Yatta] yeh – lots of the xmltv grabber programs scrape webpages – have a look at them. you'll need to download xmltv to do that |
| [12:10:08] | [Yatta]: | i have xmltv now... trying to figure it out now.... i'm looking for one thoat would scrape tvguide.com |
| [12:11:17] | Juski: | the tricky bit (apart from doing the scraping) is formatting it in xmltv format |
| [12:11:26] | [Yatta]: | ohh... |
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| [12:33:59] | [Jasper]: | morning |
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| [12:43:10] | bio_: | hmm, anyone has a screenshot of what the program guide is supposed to look like? |
| [12:43:30] | JoshRA: | It should be on the website |
| [12:43:38] | bio_: | looks like there are 5 lines that are supposed to display the channels |
| [12:43:40] | bio_: | ah ok |
| [12:44:07] | JoshRA: | http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/epg.png |
| [12:45:18] | bio_: | yeah found it, thanks |
| [12:45:29] | bio_: | mine doesnt look like that, probably have to tune the font-sizes |
| [12:45:41] | JoshRA: | Or. The teme you are using |
| [12:45:44] | JoshRA: | is not the same? |
| [12:46:05] | JoshRA: | http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mythweb1.png |
| [12:46:09] | JoshRA: | says there is a webinterface also |
| [12:46:32] | bio_: | yeah, ill struggle with mythweb lateron |
| [12:46:40] | bio_: | no, i have standard-theme atm |
| [12:46:46] | bio_: | k, ill try changing that first |
| [12:47:04] | JoshRA: | well thosie images are using a non standard theme seems |
| [12:47:53] | bio_: | actually i dont think the theme is the problem. what i meant is i only have 2 channels displayed, because the tv-show information font is probably too big |
| [12:48:17] | bio_: | so the fields where the name of the tvshow is written extend downwards, leaving no place for more channels |
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| [12:56:54] | whyz: | hello! i'm trying to get a hauppauge hvr 1300 running under linux.. anyone knows if it's even possible? |
| [12:58:06] | Juski: | whyz: the DVB side works in newish kernels |
| [12:58:26] | Juski: | but the PVR encoder side of it is 'under development' search the v4l mailing list |
| [12:58:55] | Juski: | do you research _before_ buying a card |
| [13:00:39] | Juski: | infact I remember a few people asking me if the hvr1300 card worked in linux a while back |
| [13:01:31] | [Yatta]: | hmm doesn't seem liek graber is around for tvguide |
| [13:01:33] | whyz: | :) i wasn't the one who ordered it, just the guy trying to get it running :D |
| [13:01:34] | [Yatta]: | :-( |
| [13:02:14] | JoshRA: | bio_: :) |
| [13:02:38] | Juski: | [Yatta] I had a look at the tvguide website – getting info from that would be difficult |
| [13:02:44] | Juski: | but not impossible |
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| [13:03:49] | bio_: | http://amd.co.at/bio/snapshot1.png |
| [13:03:54] | bio_: | thats what it looks like for me :/ |
| [13:06:37] | bio_: | and changing font sizes doesnt seem to have any impact on the tv guide |
| [13:07:13] | bio_: | hmm, doesnt seem to have any impact at all |
| [13:08:02] | Juski: | you can select the amount of lines shown in the tv guide |
| [13:08:12] | bio_: | yeah |
| [13:08:18] | bio_: | had it dispaying 5 before |
| [13:08:26] | bio_: | but also only showed 2 stations |
| [13:08:31] | bio_: | now its set to displaying 3 |
| [13:08:38] | bio_: | and it still displays 2 |
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| [13:09:24] | Juski: | bio_: what screen res are you running at? |
| [13:09:30] | bio_: | 1280x1024 |
| [13:09:52] | bio_: | and verified now, font-size doesnt influence the fonts of the tv guide |
| [13:10:26] | bio_: | changes only the font-size of the setup-menus *wonder* |
| [13:10:56] | Juski: | sometimes doesn't, if the theme you're using doesn't support 'small' or 'large' sizes |
| [13:11:24] | bio_: | hm ok, default theme should? |
| [13:11:43] | Juski: | dunno |
| [13:11:46] | Juski: | try other themes |
| [13:12:14] | bio_: | yeah, gonna try it with default |
| [13:13:43] | bio_: | hm, same result |
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| [13:14:45] | Juski: | is your desktop set to 100 DPI ? |
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| [13:15:38] | bio_: | hm, have to check that |
| [13:16:17] | bio_: | when i know where to find ;) |
| [13:18:28] | bio_: | at least i have the 100dpi fonts installed |
| [13:19:05] | Juski: | xdpyinfo |
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| [13:20:29] | bio_: | hm, dont see anything there concerning dpi |
| [13:21:43] | bio_: | http://pastebin.com/590693 |
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| [13:23:58] | praet: | hey anyone need a 500MHz Slot A AMD K7/Athlon? |
| [13:24:04] | Juski: | bio_: so wth is this then? resolution: 104x113 dots per inch |
| [13:24:14] | Juski: | hiya stuarta |
| [13:24:18] | Juski: | late start today? |
| [13:25:30] | bio_: | ok, down there :) |
| [13:25:44] | bio_: | so, apparently it is 100dpi |
| [13:26:04] | stuarta: | hey juski, not a late start, slow to get bored :) |
| [13:26:40] | Juski: | ahhh |
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| [13:47:48] | Wole: | shiny new toys la la laah |
| [13:47:57] | ** Wole sings ** | |
| [13:48:21] | ** Juski stabs his ears with a scalpel ** | |
| [13:48:21] | Wole: | Anyone had any luck with nuvexport / nuvtools /whatever and the new version? |
| [13:49:54] | ** Wole hands Juski a tissue, and asks him nicely not to bleed on the carpet. ** | |
| [13:51:17] | meaculpa: | Could someone explain to me exactly /when/ is it a good time to run mythfilldatabase? Every time I ran mythtv-setup? Should the backend be running? |
| [13:51:59] | meaculpa: | My config is kind-a working but I'm having trouble getting the EPG up... |
| [13:52:26] | Juski: | what use is the backend if it's not running? |
| [13:52:41] | meaculpa: | mythtv 0.19, xmltv 0.5.42 |
| [13:52:59] | meaculpa: | Juski, I mean, should the backend be running when running mythfilldatabase? |
| [13:53:09] | Juski: | it doesn't really matter |
| [13:53:48] | meaculpa: | I have this situation that there doesn't seem to be a connection between a video channel and the corresponding EPG channel. |
| [13:54:32] | meaculpa: | I'm using tv_grab_nl (Netherlands) and I'm advising to run mythfilldatabase --manual, but I have no clue why/how. |
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| [13:59:15] | meaculpa: | When running "mythfilldatabase --manual", I'm being asked to entry a channel ID, name, callsign and number for every new channel found. Can I make up the ID and number myself? How/where are they supposed to be connected to actually TV channels? |
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| [14:48:35] | sphing: | lot of chatter here today |
| [14:49:32] | ** stuarta recently died of boredom ** | |
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| [14:57:27] | Juski: | so, everyone's systems are working? coooool |
| [14:57:35] | sphing: | baba |
| [14:57:36] | Merlin83b: | Close ;-) |
| [14:57:38] | sphing: | *haha |
| [14:58:44] | Juski: | Merlin83b: see – that's why I'm not using SVN ;-) |
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| [15:00:51] | Merlin83b: | Heh, if it fixed the other problem I was having then I'll put up with an extra button press here and there so that things record :-) |
| [15:01:50] | Juski: | btw I checked & apparently opengl should work fine in openchrome, but texture operations are slow as hell :-/ |
| [15:02:08] | Merlin83b: | And the meno options are done using textures? |
| [15:02:13] | Juski: | yup |
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| [15:06:05] | Juski: | well, I can live with the UI as it works now |
| [15:06:12] | Juski: | grudgingly |
| [15:07:24] | stuarta: | it is tragically slow |
| [15:08:26] | Juski: | slow on some hardware, or just slow? |
| [15:08:57] | stuarta: | i think it should be only fast on specific hardware |
| [15:09:10] | stuarta: | s/should be/is/ |
| [15:09:29] | Juski: | like nvidia you mean |
| [15:09:59] | Juski: | well it's not as if $ky plu$ users get spiffy interfaces is it |
| [15:10:48] | stuarta: | yup. I'm ati, with standard xorg 6.8 drivers, not lacking in cpu or gpu power |
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| [15:12:18] | stuarta: | i'd take a look at it, but I'm busy with the eit rewrite. |
| [15:13:06] | Juski: | I know which would take precedence in my book .. and it's not spiffy UI stuff |
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| [15:25:20] | Merlin83b: | stuarta: Speaking of which, GreyFoxx's patches dont' apply anymore. My backend's sitting at high usage as it used to before I applied them – is there a current version? |
| [15:25:57] | sphing: | anyone know anything about his msntv project? |
| [15:26:14] | sphing: | i cant believe i'm saying this... but he needs a blog |
| [15:26:33] | stuarta: | Merlin83b: you mean his event cache stuff? |
| [15:27:09] | Merlin83b: | Yeah |
| [15:27:25] | Merlin83b: | I think that was the one that got usage down, but I applied that and the helper stuff together. |
| [15:27:32] | stuarta: | we've started implementing it in a better way |
| [15:27:45] | Merlin83b: | Sounds good, anything useable in the interim? |
| [15:27:51] | stuarta: | but further restructuring is needed to get the full benefit |
| [15:28:03] | stuarta: | basic eitcache is already in svn |
| [15:28:14] | Merlin83b: | Oh, cool. |
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| [15:28:28] | stuarta: | am currently working on the restructuring |
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| [15:29:32] | stuarta: | you should notice low cpu towards the end of the scanning period.. |
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| [15:30:04] | Merlin83b: | That may fit, I haven't observed much more than "wah, patches won't apply, cpu usage high, log says EIT stuff" though. |
| [15:31:13] | stuarta: | yeah, GreyFoxx's stuff was more consistent overall, but didn't stop all the processing |
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| [15:31:23] | a1fa: | crazy ass error |
| [15:31:24] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/44887 |
| [15:31:39] | stuarta: | the new way ONLY processes new events. |
| [15:31:41] | a1fa: | svn version of mythplugin wont compile |
| [15:31:46] | a1fa: | ;P |
| [15:32:24] | stuarta: | a1fa: include missing. |
| [15:32:47] | a1fa: | include what? |
| [15:33:02] | stuarta: | eit: but sadly it gets reset every channel change :( |
| [15:33:18] | stuarta: | a1fa: whatever defines MythThemedMenu |
| [15:33:44] | Merlin83b: | stuarta: And that's the stuff you're working on? |
| [15:33:47] | jams: | compiled just fine for me 5 minutes ago |
| [15:33:54] | a1fa: | jams : netflix is crapping out |
| [15:34:08] | jams: | just saying I compiled it 5 minutes ago |
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| [15:34:19] | stuarta: | Merlin83b: yup, need to be moved up a few logical levels. |
| [15:34:20] | a1fa: | jams : what svn version? |
| [15:34:31] | a1fa: | mythplugins# svn update |
| [15:34:31] | a1fa: | At revision 9297. |
| [15:34:39] | stuarta: | keep the cache around, more intelligent scanning methods etcetc |
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| [15:34:48] | jams: | thats the mythtv-version Im using |
| [15:34:58] | Merlin83b: | Cool stuarta, sounds good to me. I look forward to the results ;-) |
| [15:35:13] | a1fa: | jams : go check |
| [15:35:26] | jams: | check what? |
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| [15:35:32] | stuarta: | ties in with all the surgery dk's been doing on siparser |
| [15:35:41] | a1fa: | svn info | grep Revision |
| [15:36:14] | a1fa: | mach schoon, rapido, quick |
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| [15:37:09] | a1fa: | damn it |
| [15:37:14] | a1fa: | mythtv wont compile either |
| [15:38:04] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/44888+ |
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| [15:38:42] | Merlin83b: | stuarta: Yeah, the changes are looking pretty hefty from the commits. Lots of good stuff there though :-) |
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| [15:39:03] | a1fa: | jams : did you check the revision code? |
| [15:39:57] | stuarta: | Merlin83b: lots of work was & still is needed :) |
| [15:41:09] | jams: | yes and i'm compiling it again after a distclean |
| [15:41:27] | Merlin83b: | I'm sure, stuarta :-) |
| [15:41:41] | stuarta: | fun fun fun.... :) |
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| [15:42:33] | a1fa: | jams : what version damn it dude |
| [15:43:27] | a1fa: | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ |
| [15:43:33] | a1fa: | g0ttz0 lovez it |
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| [15:43:49] | jams: | 9297 of mythtv, just like I said a bit ago |
| [15:43:58] | a1fa: | ok |
| [15:44:05] | a1fa: | lets see if it compiles this time, bubba |
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| [15:47:39] | a1fa: | no es compilo? |
| [15:47:46] | jams: | still going |
| [15:47:51] | a1fa: | yo soy latino |
| [15:47:57] | a1fa: | :!"@) |
| [15:48:01] | a1fa: | aight |
| [15:48:16] | a1fa: | jams : what cpu/memory setup you have going? |
| [15:48:32] | jams: | 1 GB amd 4400 |
| [15:50:04] | jams: | got the error |
| [15:53:24] | jams: | from the commits I guess 9296 should still work, checking that now |
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| [15:58:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [15:58:03] | a1fa: | i got the error too |
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| [16:00:10] | a1fa: | how do you roll back to 9296? |
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| [16:00:24] | stuarta: | svn up -r <revision> |
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| [16:00:50] | a1fa: | U libs/libmythtv/mpeg/dvbtables.cpp |
| [16:00:51] | a1fa: | :P |
| [16:00:52] | a1fa: | nice |
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| [16:02:16] | stuarta: | by the time myth is finished, everyone will be svn experts :) |
| [16:02:51] | Merlin83b: | CRAP. |
| [16:03:12] | Merlin83b: | Recording of my second card has resulted in a nonexistent file again :-( |
| [16:04:27] | Merlin83b: | Myth? Finished? Those two words don't belong together :-) |
| [16:05:08] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [16:05:21] | Merlin83b: | In the meantime, any ideas why the other encoder won't output files would be greatyl appreciated. |
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| [16:07:18] | Juski: | test both at the same time with tzap juust to elimate myth |
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| [16:09:23] | Merlin83b: | tzap seems to be fine. |
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| [16:13:38] | jams: | a1fa- 9296 compiles. I will send an email |
| [16:13:52] | stuarta: | someone has already put in a bug report |
| [16:13:59] | jams: | oh ok |
| [16:14:11] | stuarta: | although it was about truncf not being declared... |
| [16:14:40] | jams: | same error |
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| [16:21:32] | Niklas_E: | I got a saa7134 based card (pinnacle 300i) and it have worked before, but now when I got the twinhan dst card working with mythtv the saa7134 card stopped working proparly, it starts good without sound and when I think the sound is trying to start it is like the video somehow began to go at half speed |
| [16:22:37] | Niklas_E: | they both work fine with mplayer |
| [16:22:38] | Niklas_E: | and the tvcard works fine with tvtime (the thinhan card is a dvb-s card) |
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| [16:23:54] | stuarta: | jams, a1fa: it's been fixed already |
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| [16:29:20] | jams: | yes it has been |
| [16:32:22] | greg__: | guys, anybody use a bluetooth mobile to control their mythtv frontend? |
| [16:32:51] | greg__: | i've got a remote bob 2, but i just saw someone mention bluetooth on the list and realised i carry the phone around with me all the time anyway |
| [16:33:49] | Juski: | the mailinglist also mentioned plutohome. check out their site |
| [16:33:55] | greg__: | looking at it now |
| [16:34:01] | greg__: | :) |
| [16:34:05] | greg__: | thanks Juski |
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| [16:34:13] | Juski: | I just read that thread |
| [16:34:16] | greg__: | so much cool stuff you can do with mythtv |
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| [16:34:42] | Juski: | how big a house do you need for 'follow me' though.. jees |
| [16:35:26] | greg__: | hehe yep |
| [16:35:28] | greg__: | "Build a Pluto system for FREE!" |
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| [16:35:38] | greg__: | didnt see that coming, i assumed it was proprietary |
| [16:35:41] | greg__: | nice |
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| [16:41:24] | Juski: | it was they who paid for the telnet interface |
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| [16:46:25] | bio_: | hm shouldnt it be possible to get a tv and a normal monitor to work simultaneously using twinview? i allways have either the one, or the other :/ |
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| [16:47:33] | greg__: | i'd have thought so bio_. My via does tv & crt at the same time |
| [16:47:59] | bio_: | my nvidia did too under ms |
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| [16:48:15] | Juski: | depends on whether it's => GF4 or not ;-) |
| [16:48:27] | bio_: | its gf4 ti4800 se |
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| [16:53:16] | woodwizzle: | I went to my system status, and I have lots of transcoding jobs that have failed. It says there is an error but doens't TELL me what the error is |
| [16:53:35] | woodwizzle: | and I can still watch the recordings so I don't even see what the problem is? |
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| [16:54:23] | stuarta: | svn from the last few days? |
| [16:55:18] | a1fa: | 9296 compiled |
| [16:55:19] | a1fa: | :P |
| [16:56:06] | stuarta: | 9298 is out :-P |
| [16:57:15] | Juski: | heh. workmate was looking for a car site, so typed in http://www.deawoo.com/ (oops) |
| [16:57:39] | ivor: | nsfw I assume. :) |
| [16:57:46] | stuarta: | woodwizzle: 9287 fixed some stuff relating to transcoding & commflagging |
| [16:58:37] | woodwizzle: | ahh, well I guess I'll just wait to the next full release |
| [16:59:05] | stuarta: | are you running svn or 0.19-fixes? |
| [17:01:40] | a1fa: | stuarta : svn update |
| [17:02:35] | stuarta: | not till tomorrow... |
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| [17:19:06] | coffee88: | can someone who knows how xmltv works check if I've got the understanding of the process right at http://pastebin.ca/44899 There are a few questions there too... |
| [17:22:31] | Juski: | http://pastebin.ca/44900 |
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| [17:23:19] | Juski: | xmltv != rocket science ;-) |
| [17:24:59] | coffee88: | just slightly confused by the code, and the random "not seen on site" and "not seen in channel id file" and where to fix everything.... |
| [17:25:14] | coffee88: | xmltv == magic |
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| [17:26:59] | BumbaCLot: | http://pastebin.com/591051 |
| [17:27:12] | BumbaCLot: | can someone help me with this? I get one frame of tv then it sits there |
| [17:27:26] | BumbaCLot: | im so close i can taste it :) |
| [17:28:36] | BumbaCLot: | is it a problem writing to my recording directory? |
| [17:29:26] | Juski: | coffee88: unless the 'not seen on site' error is causing channel info to be missed I wouldn't worry about it |
| [17:29:43] | Juski: | you can of course go to the xmltv cvs & grab a new channel_ids file ;-) |
| [17:31:53] | coffee88: | I seem to get everything I need. I just like things to be tidy!! |
| [17:32:34] | Juski: | anyway you've got the jist of how xmltv is used |
| [17:33:08] | coffee88: | Whew. It just seems like there are links to links to data.... |
| [17:33:35] | Juski: | it seems convoluted at first but logical when you think about it |
| [17:34:17] | coffee88: | Until you think a bit too much and end up going in circles for no reason.... |
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| [17:34:45] | Juski: | bah |
| [17:36:00] | [Jasper]: | hello people |
| [17:36:34] | BumbaCLot: | woot! success! finally! |
| [17:36:35] | kormoc: | mornin' |
| [17:38:33] | Juski: | mornin' kormoc, [Jasper_XP] |
| [17:38:40] | Juski: | coffee88: http://pastebin.com/591058 |
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| [17:38:52] | coffee88: | huh? So what's the /home/{user}/.xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt.conf for? only has a couple of channels in it? |
| [17:39:32] | Juski: | coffee88: that's what results if you run tv_grab_uk_rt --configure on its own |
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| [17:40:37] | coffee88: | Juski: ah. May have done that for testing it, now I think about it.... Thanks for the other info. It's starting to make (more) sense. |
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| [17:42:41] | coffee88: | except... On set up, what links the rt/xmlid to the channel numbers? (I can't remember what I did at that stage when I set up the box...) |
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| [17:44:56] | Juski: | coffee88: you know that bit when you configure the video source – and you have to tab across to the terminal window? that's what does it |
| [17:45:29] | Juski: | and the 1st time you run mythfilldatabase it creates channels with the xmltvids of the channels you configured |
| [17:46:06] | Juski: | I think DVB-T scanning does xmltv inserts too |
| [17:46:18] | coffee88: | ah! ok. cool. I'll stop now. while I still feel like I've learnt something today. |
| [17:47:22] | xris: | GreyFoxx: if you're around, please msg me when you have a few mins to chat |
| [17:47:54] | coffee88: | And now for something completly different... I need a new irc cliet. One that doesn't require you to press ctl+SHIFT+v to paste... suggestions? |
| [17:48:27] | Juski: | irssi |
| [17:49:25] | mxn: | additionally it got that "leet" touch ;) |
| [17:50:17] | ** coffee88 goes to emerge... ** | |
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| [17:52:38] | ** coffee88 thinks Juski uses irssc because they call things themes, not skins... ** | |
| [17:53:31] | Juski: | I'm against all the l337-ism – hence themes, not skins :-P |
| [17:53:40] | ** Beirdo skins Juski ** | |
| [17:53:45] | Juski: | hey I'm 12 & I can draw skins in M$ paint |
| [17:54:37] | Beirdo: | Juski: you are such a geezer :) |
| [17:54:38] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:54:49] | coffee88: | you lie! It's pretty much impossible to draw anything in paint. |
| [17:54:50] | rsquared: | are you really 12? |
| [17:55:06] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [17:55:07] | ** Led-Hed loves the topic ** | |
| [17:55:14] | Juski: | is it cuz I is not wit da skillz? |
| [17:55:37] | rsquared: | whoa.. i just did k-> run GAIM and it found it |
| [17:56:19] | ** rsquared always thought linux was always case sensitive ** | |
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| [17:56:47] | Juski: | GAIM is 'GAIM' not gaim ;-) |
| [17:56:53] | rsquared: | i know |
| [17:56:56] | rsquared: | but it opened it |
| [17:57:21] | Juski: | maybe it's aliased already |
| [17:57:44] | rsquared: | rjohnson@russworks /data/dump $ locate GAIM |
| [17:57:44] | rsquared: | rjohnson@russworks /data/dump $ |
| [17:57:54] | rsquared: | weird |
| [17:58:00] | rsquared: | maybe kde is retard friendly |
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| [17:58:16] | Juski: | heh |
| [17:58:18] | rsquared: | well.. at least the loadavg on my server is only at 3.5 |
| [17:58:28] | rsquared: | shit was at like 8 yesterday |
| [17:58:29] | Juski: | I know Gnome is retard friendly |
| [17:58:43] | rsquared: | i haven't used gnome since redhat 7 |
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| [18:00:16] | Juski: | I tried redhat a couple of times. almost put me off linux |
| [18:00:21] | scopeuk: | forgive me if im wrong but i thought the whole purpose of a window manager was to be retard friendly |
| [18:00:28] | rsquared: | scopeuk: good point |
| [18:00:45] | rsquared: | yeah.. i stopped liking redhat a long time ago |
| [18:00:47] | mxn: | depends on the amount of retardness it survives and supports |
| [18:01:01] | Beirdo: | GUIs suck |
| [18:01:06] | coffee88: | and to look prurrdy. Eye candy is neede for the gf... |
| [18:01:11] | Juski: | look at ubuntu with its 'add/remove programs' menu.. jesus |
| [18:01:18] | rsquared: | haha... you should try linspire |
| [18:01:30] | rsquared: | i got a free copy cuz i did a lunch event for CES where they were a sponsor |
| [18:01:36] | rsquared: | it's neat and all |
| [18:01:38] | rsquared: | but... meh |
| [18:01:50] | rsquared: | i really need to fix my bootloader on that box so i can go back to gentoo |
| [18:02:06] | rsquared: | i must say it has a nice wireless config app though |
| [18:02:22] | rsquared: | which is excellent for a laptop |
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| [18:07:46] | meushi: | Juski: redhat is not that bad when you have loads of servers to admin |
| [18:07:57] | meushi: | meushi: but for one machine, no thanks |
| [18:08:02] | meushi: | doh :p |
| [18:08:07] | meushi: | s/meushi/juski/ |
| [18:08:10] | ** rsquared hates their dependency hell ** | |
| [18:08:20] | meushi: | rpm4 with macro takes care of it |
| [18:08:28] | rsquared: | i see |
| [18:08:31] | meushi: | I mean, you just need to type 2 lines |
| [18:08:40] | meushi: | then --aid takes care of it |
| [18:08:52] | ** rsquared likes emerge ** | |
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| [18:09:15] | meushi: | well... gentoo on a server where you *don't* want a compiler is not really efficient |
| [18:09:56] | meushi: | given the choice, I'd rather deploy debian than redhat... |
| [18:10:11] | meushi: | but at least with RedHat, the custie can call someone else than me 24/7 |
| [18:15:26] | ** coffee88 thinks that irssi is going to be confusing for a while.... ** | |
| [18:15:41] | sona: | linux without a compiler is not really efficient either |
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| [18:16:16] | kormoc: | sona, a server without a compiler is rather efficient |
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| [18:16:50] | coffee88: | and safer? |
| [18:16:54] | kormoc: | indeed |
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| [18:20:29] | Dibblah: | ... Safer? Uhuh. Sure. |
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| [18:21:20] | Dibblah: | For some _users_, it's safer not to give them a compiler ;) |
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| [18:22:59] | Beirdo: | for some lusers, it's safer not to give them a login |
| [18:23:10] | meushi: | s/some/most/ |
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| [18:28:25] | Juski: | time for home |
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| [18:28:29] | kormoc: | Dibblah, most (all?) privilege raise attacks (becoming root, etc) require a compiler to do so, not having a system one help limit that a bit |
| [18:29:02] | kormoc: | altho, if the system is done correct, with /home, /tmp, /var being mounted noexec, that would also help limit it a bit |
| [18:30:14] | meushi: | well, noexec doesn't block perl scripts |
| [18:30:24] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [18:30:30] | kormoc: | or any scripting language |
| [18:30:56] | meushi: | I even wonder if there isn't a trick to go around noexec |
| [18:31:46] | kormoc: | only if you can inject code into the kernel, and thus likely require a compiler |
| [18:32:38] | macroexp: | /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /tmp/nastyfile |
| [18:32:59] | macroexp: | will run an arbitrary binary in a noexec-mounted /tmp |
| [18:33:14] | meushi: | sh arbitraty-exec |
| [18:33:16] | meushi: | also works |
| [18:33:19] | meushi: | just tested |
| [18:33:21] | kormoc: | macroexp, really? wow, that's a lot simplier then it should be |
| [18:33:27] | kormoc: | meushi, that really shouldn't |
| [18:34:11] | meushi: | oh, indeed... only works for scripts |
| [18:34:56] | kormoc: | meushi, yeah, noexec only attempts to protect against compiled binarys |
| [18:36:02] | macroexp: | yeah, the ld-linux.so.2 trick works on every system i've tried it on, though i still use noexec on all my public servers |
| [18:36:09] | macroexp: | tis better than nothing |
| [18:36:31] | meushi: | doens't work here tho, maybe only with statically linked binaries |
| [18:36:45] | macroexp: | hmm, possible |
| [18:37:32] | meushi: | fenume:/tmp/uml# cp /bin/ls . |
| [18:37:33] | meushi: | fenume:/tmp/uml# /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ./ls |
| [18:37:33] | meushi: | ./ls: error while loading shared libraries: ./ls: failed to map segment from shared object: Operation not permitted |
| [18:38:37] | kormoc: | or it got fixed recently |
| [18:39:24] | meushi: | well, not really an up to date system :p |
| [18:40:25] | macroexp: | 2.6 at least? |
| [18:40:33] | macroexp: | it works on my 2.4 systems |
| [18:40:44] | meushi: | yeah, I said "not up to date" not "antique" :p |
| [18:40:49] | macroexp: | :) |
| [18:41:19] | macroexp: | colocated servers a thousand miles away from my home |
| [18:42:11] | meushi: | even statically linked don't work |
| [18:42:22] | meushi: | I'll try on RHEL3 tomorrow, for fun |
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| [18:42:46] | kormoc: | if that hole is fixed, I'll be happy :) |
| [18:43:40] | rsquared: | ugh.. i just installed a RHEL3 box |
| [18:43:42] | rsquared: | for a customer |
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| [18:44:09] | meushi: | rsquared: it's a bit antique :) |
| [18:44:16] | rsquared: | yeah |
| [18:44:20] | rsquared: | oh well |
| [18:45:48] | meushi: | it's officially on the "only if required by a specific application" list at work now |
| [18:46:27] | meushi: | oh, I have a question from work actually |
| [18:46:33] | ** meushi dons asbestos suit ** | |
| [18:46:53] | meushi: | does anyone know of a mythvideo equivalent in Java? |
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| [18:47:38] | ** kormoc shakes his head ** | |
| [18:47:43] | meushi: | I know |
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| [18:48:33] | meushi: | they're looking for something to store heaploads of videos, with metadata in a DB and multiple frontends... they want streaming, they want download, ... |
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| [18:50:10] | meushi: | and politically, I can only propose something based on myth if there is no *portable* java equivalent anywhere... or if the java sucks on the functionality side |
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| [18:54:26] | Yellow-Snow: | hey who likes SAT questions? |
| [18:54:32] | Beirdo: | java suck? never... er I mean always |
| [18:55:11] | meushi: | Beirdo: "Java doesn't have a garbage collector... I mean, if it had it would throw itself in it" – me 6 months ago |
| [18:55:34] | meushi: | Beirdo: "In fact, it has a garbage collector... very efficient... it only lacks a garbage disposer" – me now |
| [18:56:29] | Beirdo: | Java is crap. – me always |
| [18:56:34] | meushi: | hehe |
| [18:56:40] | meushi: | nah, crap is useful |
| [18:56:45] | meushi: | fetilizer and all that |
| [18:56:50] | meushi: | fertilizer even |
| [18:56:50] | Beirdo: | I even said so to the Sun rep |
| [18:57:06] | Beirdo: | "ah hell, the manager runs in Java?! What a piece of crap!" |
| [18:57:12] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:57:13] | meushi: | Beirdo: I used to wear a Sun badge, never stopped me saying it |
| [18:57:42] | Yellow-Snow: | Hey guys.. Windows is to Error-Checking as Linux is to ________? |
| [18:58:10] | meushi: | virus replication? |
| [18:58:33] | Yellow-Snow: | idk or windows is to defrag as linux is to ______? |
| [18:59:20] | meushi: | fsck |
| [18:59:33] | meushi: | except less often |
| [19:00:04] | Yellow-Snow: | basically im asking what do i need to do often to maintain my system speed? |
| [19:00:50] | meushi: | nothing mostly |
| [19:01:10] | meushi: | maybe clean up /var, and check for zombies |
| [19:01:20] | Yellow-Snow: | er to complex for me |
| [19:03:27] | Beirdo: | see if anything's eating your brains |
| [19:03:48] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [19:04:10] | Beirdo: | just make sure /var/log doesn't overflow, the rest fairly well tends to take care of itself |
| [19:04:23] | Yellow-Snow: | aight |
| [19:04:29] | Beirdo: | zombie processes are usually rare (thankfully) |
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| [19:04:53] | Yellow-Snow: | i mean my system is pretty clear.. im only using it for mythtv and only installed programs i needed from knoppmyth |
| [19:05:09] | Yellow-Snow: | im just talking about like recording and deleteing over and over u know? |
| [19:05:09] | Beirdo: | if a ps auxww shows processes in state Z, then you have zombies |
| [19:05:20] | Beirdo: | meh, you should be fine |
| [19:05:31] | Yellow-Snow: | cool prime example why linux > windows |
| [19:05:34] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [19:06:25] | meushi: | Beirdo: they're rare when your waiting queue isn't too big and you don't have multiple oracle instances ;) |
| [19:06:34] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:06:44] | Beirdo: | oracle isn't used for myth, THANK GOD! |
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| [19:07:10] | meushi: | yeah, that would be double plus ungood |
| [19:08:00] | dtm: | how can you guys even stand to *talk* to that Yellow-Snow kid? are you trolling for some kind of prize for absolute sheer, mind shattering, universal-heat-death-accelerating stupidity or what? |
| [19:08:05] | dtm: | i'm honestly curious |
| [19:08:22] | Beirdo: | dtm: about the same as talking to you... |
| [19:08:23] | dtm: | coz he has that kind of potential |
| [19:08:23] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:08:30] | Beirdo: | everyone's a user |
| [19:08:58] | meushi: | and because some of us still feel like helping our next of kind... as long as it's not during the business hours |
| [19:08:59] | Beirdo: | he's just got a ways to go to be not so newbie |
| [19:09:01] | dtm: | and i just hope you guys realize what you're doing. i wont be happy when you charge him up to the point that time itself shatters and Superman has to clean it up. |
| [19:09:12] | meushi: | hehe |
| [19:09:26] | dtm: | Beirdo: no, absolutely *nobody* else is like him |
| [19:09:31] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:09:36] | Beirdo: | there have been WAY worse |
| [19:09:38] | dtm: | he is the embodiment of mental sloth. |
| [19:09:40] | Beirdo: | and there will be again |
| [19:09:41] | meushi: | dtm: I've known worse |
| [19:09:48] | meushi: | dtm: I've known *far* worse |
| [19:09:49] | dtm: | i have too, but not in a *while* |
| [19:09:56] | Beirdo: | !seen Eszenia |
| [19:09:56] | MythLogBot: | Eszenia was last seen 41 days 1 hour 22 minutes 56 seconds ago |
| [19:10:03] | Beirdo: | 41 days to be exact |
| [19:10:20] | meushi: | dtm: you should have seen some of the cases in #LFS 4 years ago |
| [19:10:22] | dtm: | you are most charitable when you use the word "helping" in relation to him |
| [19:10:29] | dtm: | as if that's possible |
| [19:10:51] | Beirdo: | I'm sure you were equally clueless at some point. take it easy |
| [19:11:22] | meushi: | weren't we all? |
| [19:11:24] | Beirdo: | actually, it wouldn't surprise me if he were Eszenia's friend |
| [19:11:26] | dtm: | no. |
| [19:11:28] | dtm: | absolutely not. |
| [19:11:35] | Beirdo: | both from br.br.cox.net |
| [19:11:37] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [19:11:43] | dtm: | we're not even in the realm of clueless there. |
| [19:12:06] | dtm: | we're talking about making the people around him dumber. an intellect destruction vaccum. |
| [19:12:13] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [19:12:15] | Beirdo: | whatever |
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| [19:12:29] | dtm: | clueless would be a massive upgrade there. |
| [19:12:49] | dtm: | clueless != unteachable |
| [19:13:13] | dtm: | but anyway! i was just curious. i see that it's pure charity and self amusement. carry on. |
| [19:13:51] | Beirdo: | there are lusers a-plenty |
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| [19:14:52] | meushi: | they walk amongst us, they surround us... and they don't even know they're dumb |
| [19:15:18] | dtm: | l o l yes but this one is just life-suckingly dumb. a negative intellect. knows it, and is proud of it. |
| [19:15:38] | Beirdo: | meh, whatever |
| [19:15:43] | dtm: | k! |
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| [19:17:49] | Beirdo: | !seen dumbass |
| [19:17:49] | MythLogBot: | dumbass has not been seen here |
| [19:17:54] | Beirdo: | heh, oh yes it has |
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| [19:22:14] | kormoc: | !seen kormoc |
| [19:22:14] | MythLogBot: | kormoc is here and has been idle for 0 seconds |
| [19:22:25] | ** kormoc is overly amused by that ** | |
| [19:25:04] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:25:08] | Beirdo: | !seen MythLogBot |
| [19:25:08] | MythLogBot: | MythLogBot is here and has been idle for 2 minutes 54 seconds |
| [19:25:10] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:25:22] | Beirdo: | it says it after looking it up |
| [19:25:28] | Beirdo: | (obviously) |
| [19:26:31] | xris: | !seen GreyFoxx |
| [19:26:31] | MythLogBot: | GreyFoxx is here and has been idle for 14 hours 8 minutes 39 seconds |
| [19:26:35] | xris: | sweet |
| [19:31:39] | xris: | !seen dopester |
| [19:31:40] | MythLogBot: | dopester was last seen 2 days 17 hours 55 minutes 9 seconds ago |
| [19:31:51] | xris: | !seen chutt |
| [19:31:51] | MythLogBot: | chutt was last seen 1 day 15 hours 50 minutes 7 seconds ago |
| [19:31:59] | xris: | we'll have to keep that one on auto.. :)_ |
| [19:32:19] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:32:47] | Beirdo: | !seen fishhead |
| [19:32:47] | MythLogBot: | fishhead has not been seen here |
| [19:32:50] | Beirdo: | !seen fishead |
| [19:32:51] | MythLogBot: | fishead has not been seen here |
| [19:32:56] | Beirdo: | interesting |
| [19:32:57] | akaias: | i'm using mythtv 0.19_p9163 on gentoo. i set the box up but haven't used it in a while. well i'm ready to put it into production use and have a prob I didnt have before. |
| [19:33:16] | Beirdo: | !seen f1shhead |
| [19:33:16] | MythLogBot: | f1shhead has not been seen here |
| [19:33:30] | Beirdo: | that guy was a L00ser |
| [19:33:35] | kormoc: | Beirdo, xris, here's a thought, can you intelligently get it to respond to pms? say, if it gets a pm, look up what channels the current user is in, and if there's only one match, assume that person wants infor for that channel? |
| [19:33:39] | akaias: | i have mythbackend start in the default runlevel with rc-update but its not running. i'm told its started on boot but its not. frontend cant connect. if i run the backend , then the front everything is fine |
| [19:33:44] | Beirdo: | I guess I banned him before we started logging |
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| [19:33:53] | Beirdo: | kormoc: I'll be working on that |
| [19:34:11] | kormoc: | akaias, what's the backend log file say? |
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| [19:36:57] | akaias: | kormoc, doh, havent checked that. lemme see... |
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| [19:40:36] | terevos: | ack.. I'd like to contribute to the mythtv wiki.. but it says my IP or username is blocked |
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| [19:41:49] | terevos: | anyone know how I can contact Goldfish? aka Gregturn |
| [19:43:45] | akaias: | kormoc, latest entries are from 3/6. nothing from today. but its has lines saying /mnt/store//nfslockfile.lock has permission deined and it cant be opeend. i deleted the file and am rebooting |
| [19:46:07] | praet: | new article mentioning mythtv: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70328-0.html?tw=rss.index |
| [19:46:30] | akaias: | kormoc, that didn't help. still not starting even though i'm told it is. |
| [19:46:52] | jams: | man I hate automated phone trees |
| [19:46:53] | kormoc: | akaias, and anything new in the log? |
| [19:47:56] | akaias: | nope. just from 3/6. i think thats when i upgraded to the 19-p9163. the box has been running for a few months i just never used myth. i wanted to get the firefly remote working before i replaced the tivo |
| [19:49:16] | akaias: | kormoc, even when i manually start it nothing is added to the log |
| [19:52:53] | kormoc: | odd |
| [20:02:19] | SlicerDicer-: | hey kormoc got my HDTV box heh |
| [20:02:31] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [20:02:35] | SlicerDicer-: | now I have so much BS from comcast that my work order is 2 pages long LOL |
| [20:02:43] | SlicerDicer-: | volume discount! |
| [20:02:47] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [20:02:52] | SlicerDicer-: | ;-) |
| [20:05:14] | SlicerDicer-: | so now I got to go get a firewire cable |
| [20:05:15] | SlicerDicer-: | heh |
| [20:05:32] | SlicerDicer-: | the comcast tech was thinking about doing mythtv cause he did not want a tivo.... LOL he got to see it in action |
| [20:05:44] | SlicerDicer-: | kinda amusing actually |
| [20:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | he was very impressed by it :) |
| [20:06:59] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: well done sir |
| [20:07:21] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [20:08:53] | SlicerDicer-: | I am so excited about HDTV :) |
| [20:09:38] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: your boss started it! he had to go and send me that HDTV sample and make me drool to the point of forcing me to do it... it practically broke my arm :/ |
| [20:09:49] | kormoc: | :P |
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| [20:19:06] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [20:19:19] | Beirdo: | kormoc: msgs to the bot should now at least reply :) |
| [20:19:20] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:19:26] | Beirdo: | and seen should work in /msg |
| [20:21:56] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [20:22:06] | Beirdo: | not working for me right now?! |
| [20:22:15] | Beirdo: | ah there it goes |
| [20:22:40] | Beirdo: | !seen kormoc |
| [20:22:40] | MythLogBot: | kormoc is here and has been idle for 3 minutes 45 seconds |
| [20:23:11] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [20:23:22] | Beirdo: | wakey wakey, bot |
| [20:24:28] | rsquared: | MythLogBot: how you doin? |
| [20:25:07] | rsquared: | hrm.. guess not |
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| [20:25:29] | rsquared: | we got a bot in a silc channel that i go to that quotes aqua teen hunger force when you talk to him |
| [20:26:11] | sphing: | !seen sphing |
| [20:26:11] | MythLogBot: | sphing is here and has been idle for 0 seconds |
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| [20:26:26] | rsquared: | !seen boobs |
| [20:26:26] | MythLogBot: | boobs has not been seen here |
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| [20:26:37] | sphing: | ahaha |
| [20:26:47] | rsquared: | hehe |
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| [20:30:22] | Juski: | sphing: speak for yerself lad ;-) |
| [20:30:36] | Juski: | oops it was rsquared.. |
| [20:30:39] | sphing: | rsquared: ? |
| [20:30:41] | sphing: | jes |
| [20:30:47] | Juski: | sorry :-) |
| [20:31:26] | sphing: | <3 |
| [20:32:19] | rsquared: | huh? |
| [20:32:26] | rsquared: | oh |
| [20:32:27] | rsquared: | heh |
| [20:32:32] | rsquared: | sorry.. boredom |
| [20:32:44] | rsquared: | i'm too lazy to go into the datacenter and setup our other tape library |
| [20:32:46] | sphing: | !help |
| [20:32:46] | MythLogBot: | Use "help" followed by a bot command. For a list of bot commands, use "list" |
| [20:32:54] | sphing: | !help list |
| [20:32:55] | MythLogBot: | Shows a list of supported bot commands. |
| [20:33:02] | sphing: | lol.. !list |
| [20:33:07] | sphing: | !list |
| [20:33:07] | MythLogBot: | help, list, notice, search, seen, trout |
| [20:33:10] | rsquared: | haha |
| [20:33:22] | rsquared: | !help trout |
| [20:33:22] | MythLogBot: | Slaps someone with a trout on your behalf. Currently must be used in a public channel. |
| [20:33:26] | rsquared: | ah |
| [20:33:35] | rsquared: | !trout rsquared |
| [20:33:35] | ** MythLogBot slaps rsquared with a trout on behalf of rsquared... ** | |
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| [20:34:28] | rsquared: | i think i'll go to lunch instead |
| [20:35:01] | coffee88: | does anyone tune their pci latencies like the performance guide notes suggest? |
| [20:35:23] | dtm: | coffee88: how's that possible? kernel src? |
| [20:35:42] | coffee88: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_Latency |
| [20:36:20] | sphing: | Beirdo: what about adding a feature to search the wiki? |
| [20:36:34] | Beirdo: | maybe later :) |
| [20:36:38] | Beirdo: | put in a ticket |
| [20:36:45] | sphing: | lol... wheres the code? |
| [20:36:58] | Beirdo: | http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/beirdobot |
| [20:37:24] | sphing: | ah |
| [20:38:08] | Beirdo: | I won't remember without a ticket :) |
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| [20:40:39] | Beirdo: | !help seen |
| [20:40:39] | MythLogBot: | Shows when the last time a user has been seen, or how long they've been idle. Syntax: (in channel) seen nick (in privmsg) seen #channel nick. |
| [20:40:46] | Beirdo: | muhaha |
| [20:41:05] | Dibblah: | Errr... I'm pretty sure that PCI latency is meant to be dictated by the card, not the BIOS. |
| [20:41:05] | Beirdo: | I didn't want to hardcode in the command character as it's channel dependant |
| [20:41:32] | Dibblah: | ... So if you're fiddling with it, the BIOS is broken. |
| [20:41:52] | Beirdo: | not always, Dibblah |
| [20:42:13] | Beirdo: | sometimes, the card is stupid and asks for something insane like 0 |
| [20:42:40] | Dibblah: | Hmmm. Nice. |
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| [20:42:42] | coffee88: | It appers tat 32 is the default unless the card asks for something different... |
| [20:42:53] | coffee88: | And something else may be better... |
| [20:43:05] | sphing: | Beirdo: can the bot insert a module... during runtime? |
| [20:43:06] | Beirdo: | and for some cards, overriding to 64 gives a much more stable system IIRC |
| [20:43:14] | Beirdo: | sphing: not yet, but yes |
| [20:43:16] | ** coffee88 needs more late night typing lessons.... ** | |
| [20:43:34] | sphing: | Beirdo: you got a tutorial on how to do that, I'm looking to do that on another project |
| [20:43:41] | Beirdo: | and remove them, but I haven't coded an interface to do it under user control |
| [20:43:53] | Dibblah: | Yup. But Via systems die badly with the 'default' and ivtv cards. |
| [20:44:12] | Beirdo: | sphing: see the plugin_api.c file in my code |
| [20:44:23] | tfm: | dbcheck.cpp does not meantion MOV files, is it normal that mythvideo doesn't support MOV files ? |
| [20:44:31] | macroexp: | hmm i wonder if that's why my via system acts so funky sometimes |
| [20:44:37] | tfm: | talking about mythvideo |
| [20:44:58] | Dibblah: | Do you have a ivtv card? |
| [20:45:06] | macroexp: | yeah, pvr-350 |
| [20:45:26] | Dibblah: | Latest ivtv drivers set the latency higher to get over this issue. |
| [20:46:02] | macroexp: | sometimes it just hangs for 30–40 seconds, like on skipping through a recording. hangs on maybe 5% of the skip attempts |
| [20:46:23] | Dibblah: | Nah. That sounds like an xdriver issue. |
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| [20:47:10] | sphing: | Beirdo: i'm gonna take a good look later.. I'm in class now... |
| [20:47:12] | macroexp: | pvr-350 xdriver? |
| [20:47:18] | sphing: | i'm sure i'll have more questions :) |
| [20:47:20] | Dibblah: | YEah. |
| [20:47:21] | Beirdo: | macroexp: my box has done that for some time too. using ATI for output |
| [20:47:28] | macroexp: | huh |
| [20:47:53] | Beirdo: | it's not a X driver thing would be my bet |
| [20:48:03] | ** Dibblah doesn't use a 350, or even a 150 any more :) ** | |
| [20:48:14] | Beirdo: | but who the hell knows? |
| [20:48:15] | macroexp: | didn't happen on my previous fe/be combo, but since i upgraded the hardware (and to 0.19), it started happening |
| [20:50:14] | Beirdo: | sphing: This was my first time doing it, but it seems to work pretty well. the "trout" is a plugin |
| [20:50:19] | Beirdo: | !trout |
| [20:50:19] | ** MythLogBot dumps a bucket of trout onto Beirdo ** | |
| [20:50:31] | sphing: | Beirdo: and loaded at runtime... like insmod? |
| [20:50:41] | Beirdo: | pretty much, but not a kernel module |
| [20:50:48] | Beirdo: | it uses dlopen |
| [20:51:06] | Beirdo: | pretty much like how apache loads modules that are .so |
| [20:51:08] | sphing: | right obviously... hmm i'm curious to see how thats work |
| [20:51:37] | Beirdo: | yeah, I found a tutorial somewhere, forget where... but got the code working pretty quick |
| [20:51:47] | sphing: | do you have another program signal the app? |
| [20:51:55] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [20:51:56] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:52:04] | Beirdo: | right now, I load them on startup |
| [20:52:07] | sphing: | so it reads a dir? |
| [20:52:29] | grant_: | Hey, I have a quick question.. I "accidentally" deleted some .nuvs from my /mnt/store. Now my DB is out of sync with what i have on my fileserver, and I can't seem to delete the shows via mythweb. Aside from manually deleting these entries from the DB (which is probably a bad idea anyways), anyone have any other ideas? |
| [20:52:30] | Beirdo: | the plugins are in a specific dir, but it will search the lib path if it needs to |
| [20:52:48] | sphing: | grant touch the .nuv files in the dir |
| [20:52:49] | Beirdo: | grant_: find the files that are missing (filename) |
| [20:52:52] | Beirdo: | and touch em |
| [20:52:57] | Beirdo: | creates a 0 byte file |
| [20:53:02] | Beirdo: | then delete from myth |
| [20:53:09] | grant_: | sphing, Beirdo: well, I did try touching the ones it was complaining about |
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| [20:53:22] | grant_: | but, mythbackend still complains that it can't find the files |
| [20:53:32] | sphing: | cant find any of them? |
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| [20:53:44] | sphing: | well class is over |
| [20:53:45] | Beirdo: | you sure you did it in the right dir, and that the user running mythbackend can access them? |
| [20:53:45] | sphing: | bbl |
| [20:53:50] | grant_: | sphing: taht's correct. there are about 10 .nuvs in question |
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| [20:53:52] | Beirdo: | and that you didn't typo the filenames? |
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| [20:54:01] | grant_: | well, I copied and pasted them |
| [20:54:12] | grant_: | do you suppose I need to bounce mythbackend? |
| [20:54:22] | Beirdo: | can't hurt, I guess |
| [20:54:31] | Beirdo: | but I wouldn't think it would be necessary |
| [20:54:43] | grant_: | me either, but.. |
| [20:55:37] | Beirdo: | if it's not recording, it shouldn't cause any issues to do so |
| [20:55:51] | Beirdo: | if it is recording, you'll have a short recording :) |
| [20:56:01] | grant_: | heh |
| [20:58:36] | grant_: | nice, that worked |
| [20:58:50] | grant_: | touching them worked |
| [20:58:59] | grant_: | I guess they needed to be touched in a "special" way |
| [20:59:03] | grant_: | zing! |
| [21:00:30] | grant_: | Ok, another question |
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| [21:01:21] | grant_: | it seems that the commercials are not automatically deleted from my recordings, even though I think I have it set up to do so after things record. |
| [21:01:31] | grant_: | are there any other settings I should check? |
| [21:03:22] | kormoc: | Beirdo, yay! thanks! |
| [21:03:46] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [21:04:34] | coffee88: | Beirdo: will the bot send chutt a greeting when/if he appears next? |
| [21:04:44] | xris: | coffee88: one/day |
| [21:04:45] | kormoc: | Dibblah, also the kernel sometimes retunes the pci latencys based on other drivers in the box |
| [21:04:56] | xris: | which is far better than the old one did |
| [21:05:01] | Beirdo: | he will get a notice, yes |
| [21:05:07] | Beirdo: | as would anyone else |
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| [21:06:42] | Beirdo: | I'd love to be able to tell the bot to reload its code |
| [21:06:43] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:07:54] | ** kormoc wonders if the wiki on pci latencys should be updated, as with how it stands, it would seem to indicate that settign your ide controlers to 248 would be the best ** | |
| [21:07:59] | Beirdo: | but that's a terribly tricky thing to do |
| [21:09:29] | ** coffee88 wonders if having latencies of 32 for almost everything is harming performance.... ** | |
| [21:10:15] | kormoc: | coffee88, it depends |
| [21:10:19] | xris: | Beirdo: could make EVERYTHING a plugin... and reload plugin code |
| [21:10:24] | akaias: | does anyone know why i no longer get any onscreen stuff? i dont get the channel numbers as i type them, "I" doesn't bring up info. P pauses but no longer says how behind i am, etc. |
| [21:10:27] | Beirdo: | yeah, true |
| [21:10:36] | Beirdo: | almost everything |
| [21:10:46] | coffee88: | heh heh. Always seems to! It's the depends on what that gets tricky.... |
| [21:10:47] | kormoc: | coffee88, basically the latency is the admount of data it can pass in one go, before it tosses off control to a different device. |
| [21:10:49] | xris: | Beirdo: yup. and the rest likely wouldn't change all that often |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | obviously the "plugin" API can't itself be a plugin |
| [21:11:10] | akaias: | i have the 'mythcenter' theme and 'classic" menu theme |
| [21:11:19] | kormoc: | coffee88, for large data transfers, it is more effecent to accept more data before handing off control, for small data, it's a waste |
| [21:11:52] | akaias: | still cant figure out my mythbackend is not starting on boot, only manually but the good news is my firefly remote is finally working. |
| [21:12:02] | coffee88: | kormoc: so for playing a recodrding, I thought it would be better to be a bit higher? |
| [21:12:53] | kormoc: | coffee88, likely, aye |
| [21:13:09] | ** coffee88 wonders just what a "recodrding" actually is... ** | |
| [21:13:30] | coffee88: | kormoc: One more thing to try when I've got time to fix things if they break.... |
| [21:13:32] | kormoc: | coffee88, you see, the explaination of with 64 the data form the card is faster then the ide drives can accept it is not true, it all depends on what else is on the chain as well |
| [21:15:06] | coffee88: | kormoc: too late tonight, but if you're happy to have a look tomorrow, I'll pastebin the lspci output to see if you have a view.... |
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| [21:22:21] | kormoc: | coffee88, http://pastebin.ca/44963 |
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| [21:27:43] | ** MythLogBot slaps kormoc with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [21:27:49] | Beirdo: | muhaha |
| [21:28:49] | kormoc: | :P |
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| [21:34:43] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
| [21:34:45] | Beirdo: | OK, fixed |
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| [21:37:03] | ** MythLogBot slaps Baylink with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [21:37:06] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [21:37:26] | xris: | Beirdo: nice... |
| [21:37:38] | ** MythLogBot slaps kormoc with a trout on behalf of xris... ** | |
| [21:37:41] | xris: | hahaha |
| [21:37:42] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [21:39:27] | scopeuk: | !help list |
| [21:39:27] | MythLogBot: | Shows a list of supported bot commands. |
| [21:39:34] | scopeuk: | !list |
| [21:39:34] | MythLogBot: | help, list, notice, search, seen, trout |
| [21:39:39] | xris: | need to make it smart so you only have to give the channel name if both users exist in multiple channels |
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| [21:40:43] | Beirdo: | try again so I can see a coredump? |
| [21:41:03] | xris: | I did |
| [21:41:04] | xris: | worked that time |
| [21:41:15] | Beirdo: | how odd |
| [21:41:17] | ** MythLogBot slaps scopeuk with a trout on behalf of scopeuk... ** | |
| [21:41:29] | Beirdo: | I'm sure I missed SOMETHING |
| [21:41:34] | Beirdo: | but we'll find it |
| [21:41:49] | xris: | yeah |
| [21:41:56] | xris: | you need better help text. heh |
| [21:42:04] | scopeuk: | trout xris |
| [21:42:07] | Beirdo: | you are welcome to help |
| [21:42:17] | bio_: | hmm, first time i programmed mythtv. the first recording is visible in the media-library, the 2 others i made are not. though, there are mpeg-files on the harddrive that could correspond to the recordings, except that the second one seems a bit short |
| [21:42:23] | bio_: | anyone has an idea? ^^ |
| [21:42:25] | xris: | I'll poke at it at some point.. web stuff is more important (search, etc) |
| [21:42:32] | Beirdo: | true |
| [21:43:02] | xris: | bio_: the two not in the list are probably livetv recordings, and you have disabled showing of livetv recordings in the recordings list. |
| [21:43:42] | bio_: | well, dont think so, wasnt watching livetv and they were programmed to be recorded |
| [21:43:57] | bio_: | and livetv has allways been displayed in the browser |
| [21:44:35] | xris: | dunno, then. if they're mpegs, you could just watch them to see what's what. |
| [21:46:13] | bio_: | hm yeah, got to change xorg conf then because backend is in the living room, display (tv) in the bedroom and cloning monitors doesnt seem to work :/ |
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| [21:47:23] | bio_: | good night for today |
| [21:47:43] | [Jasper]: | good night, and good luck |
| [21:47:47] | [Jasper]: | :p |
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| [21:57:37] | feld: | I see the latest revision is 9263 (according to the wiki). Gentoo has an ebuild for 9163. Are one of these a typo? Is it the same thing? |
| [21:59:34] | feld: | In this revision it mentions the "Fixed program transition in LiveTV watching". Is this the part where the mythfrontend freezes when watching LiveTV (usually at commercial or end of show, but sometimes inbetween)? |
| [22:00:13] | xris: | feld: revision is a number.. means there have been 100 commits somewhere in the mythtv tree between the ebuild and today |
| [22:00:50] | xris: | should say... counter, not number. |
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| [22:05:25] | kormoc: | feld, no, gentoo's ebuild doesn't automagically update itself, sorry to say |
| [22:06:29] | feld: | kormoc: I was just thinking one of them was a typo |
| [22:06:33] | feld: | and that they were in fact the same thing |
| [22:06:41] | rsquared: | xris: where's that list of commits? |
| [22:06:44] | feld: | the numbers were too close to be coinidental, I thought |
| [22:07:31] | feld: | *coincidental |
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| [22:08:37] | Beirdo: | OK, it's home time |
| [22:08:49] | kormoc: | feld, heh, don't get your hopes up too much :P |
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| [22:18:39] | xris: | rsquared: http://svn.mythtv.org |
| [22:18:55] | rsquared: | cool |
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| [22:30:26] | imagi: | I have been having a strange problem with mythtv that has nothing in Google about it. Wondered if anyone here has had problems with their ringbuffer? |
| [22:30:44] | imagi: | At the moment I have "Error: Failed to create RingBuffer 1" |
| [22:31:17] | kormoc: | imagi, you might want to update to 0.19 |
| [22:31:49] | imagi: | I have tried upgrading to the 0.19 official release and also the latest svn code. |
| [22:32:05] | kormoc: | that's odd, as 0.19 doesn't use RingBuffers anymore |
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| [22:32:26] | imagi: | Very strange |
| [22:32:45] | mrec: | does anyone have a cinergyT2 usb dvb-t device? wonder if that module cleans everything up correctly after unloading |
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| [22:34:14] | imagi: | this is the error that I am receiving: TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2006-03–08 23:33:06.026 TFW, Error: Opening file '/mnt/vault/video/Recordings/1011_20060308233305.mpg'. eno: Input/output error (5) 2006-03–08 23:33:06.032 TVRec(1) Error: RingBuffer '/mnt/vault/video/Recordings/1011_20060308233305.mpg' not open... |
| [22:34:45] | imagi: | Guess it's still referring to the liveTV recording at the "Ring buffer". |
| [22:35:19] | kormoc: | yeah |
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| [22:36:06] | imagi: | Of course I checked the permissions and can create files at the mythtv backend user. |
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| [22:43:33] | Aneurysm9: | how can I stop the backend from changing the brightness, contrast, etc. on my pvr500 every time it starts a recording? |
| [22:44:00] | Pitchin_uk: | evening all – the 0.19 version of mythweb looks a little emptier than the last version |
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| [22:44:19] | jams: | you should record more stuff |
| [22:44:54] | xris: | Aneurysm9: you can adjust the brightness/etc for each channel — myth remembers what you pick. |
| [22:45:26] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: yeah, now it actually detects which plugins you have installed before trying to let you access the related settings. |
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| [22:46:45] | Pitchin_uk: | xris – fantastic |
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| [22:46:59] | Pitchin_uk: | i bet get on installing some plugins!! |
| [22:47:02] | Aneurysm9: | xris: yeah, but myth moves the defaults from the pvr500, if I set the per-channel settings to restore the defaults it hoses the settings on my bt878, is there a way to not use the per-channel settings and leave the card's default? |
| [22:47:54] | xris: | Aneurysm9: set up a separate listings source for the pvr-500 — that'll separate the channel settings between cards. |
| [22:47:57] | kormoc: | Aneurysm9, you can setup different channel listings for each card |
| [22:47:58] | xris: | dunno any other way to do that. |
| [22:48:43] | Aneurysm9: | xris: if I only have one DD listing source, will using it twice pull the data twice from mythfilldatabase or will it use the same data for both sources? |
| [22:50:04] | xris: | Aneurysm9: it'll probably pull once for each configured listings source , even if they both point to the same DD list. |
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| [22:50:38] | Aneurysm9: | oh well, seems like a bit of wasted bandwidth, but I'll give it a try, have to be better than superbright, oversaturated video |
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| [22:54:55] | Pitchin_uk: | is there anything i need to configure to get mythweather working?? |
| [22:56:06] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: mythweather |
| [22:56:20] | xris: | mythweb's weather stuff pulls the mythweather settings |
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| [22:57:28] | phishman: | anyone here using todays SVN? |
| [22:57:57] | Pitchin_uk: | xris – i found it – was just being stupid!! |
| [22:58:06] | ste__: | narf.. |
| [22:58:08] | phishman: | Im getting a segfault after installing the mythplugins |
| [22:58:09] | Pitchin_uk: | xris – have you got mythweb working?? |
| [22:58:58] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: hint: I wrote it |
| [22:59:45] | Pitchin_uk: | xris – then fair play to you – its really useful |
| [22:59:49] | xris: | :) |
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| [23:00:35] | Pitchin_uk: | xris – its just that id like to put some authentication and use ssl – but keep getting unstuck and loing mythweb :( |
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| [23:00:57] | Pitchin_uk: | i know its not directly a myth issue |
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| [23:02:32] | xris: | those are both easy things |
| [23:02:52] | xris: | basic auth help is included in the .htaccess file |
| [23:02:58] | phishman: | Anyone know of a way to add files on an NFS partition; so you can see them in Media Library? |
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| [23:04:30] | xris: | and ssl is just a matter of adding a "RedirectMatch (.*) https://my_server$1" to your non-ssl vhost definition |
| [23:04:45] | xris: | phishman: huh? |
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| [23:05:33] | Pitchin_uk: | xris – what file permissions do i need on th mythweb directory and the .htaccess file?? |
| [23:05:54] | phishman: | xris: I have a Freevo in one room and a MythTv in the other. I want to be able to play the Freevo files (avi files on an NFS) thru MythTv |
| [23:06:04] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: htaccess is generally best readable only by you and the webserver. |
| [23:06:17] | xris: | phishman: them mount/alias your nfs directory inside of the mythvideo scan directory |
| [23:06:43] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: mythweb directory perms don't matter for auth... auth is all handled by apache. |
| [23:06:48] | phishman: | xris: so I need to install mythvideo; that's why I could find an option |
| [23:07:10] | Aneurysm9: | does anyone know, in the channel table, does the color attribute map to the saturation value of a pvr500? |
| [23:07:10] | xris: | phishman: yes, that's how you play files not recorded by myth |
| [23:07:34] | xris: | Aneurysm9: color is usually hue |
| [23:07:46] | Aneurysm9: | xris: but hue is a separate attribute in the table |
| [23:07:47] | Pitchin_uk: | xris – so for the permissions on my htdocs folder i can leave as root?? |
| [23:08:13] | phishman: | xris – I am currently seg faulting after installing the plugins; I am using mythtv svn from friday and plugins from today; think it'll be the problem? |
| [23:08:19] | Aneurysm9: | oh well, I'll try it and find out :) can't break anything, right (crosses fingers) |
| [23:08:22] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: yeah, as long as it's readable by apache... and the "data" directory is writable by apache (mythweb will complain if it's not) |
| [23:08:45] | xris: | phishman: it could be. depends on what changed.. could just be a bug in svn, too |
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| [23:09:03] | phishman: | xris – anyway to get an old svn? |
| [23:09:06] | xris: | Aneurysm9: looks like there's a separate "hue" column, so colour is probably saturation |
| [23:09:15] | xris: | phishman: svn help checkout |
| [23:09:24] | phishman: | xris – sweet thanks |
| [23:09:37] | Beirdo: | awww, such a polite way to say RTFM |
| [23:09:38] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:09:48] | xris: | I'm apparently in a good mood today. |
| [23:09:53] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:09:58] | Beirdo: | it happens to all of us |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | though I think an anonymous trout command would be handy |
| [23:10:18] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:10:26] | xris: | good application of the "restrict to +v" option. heh |
| [23:10:36] | Beirdo: | yeah. |
| [23:10:37] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [23:10:57] | phishman: | xris – any suggested dates/revisions to use? |
| [23:10:58] | xris: | you could just store the opt flags in the field rather than a 1 for login |
| [23:11:01] | Beirdo: | not all that anonymous that way though :) |
| [23:11:16] | xris: | phishman: whatever the .19 release was? (actually, the .19-fixes branch) |
| [23:11:46] | xris: | Beirdo: well, no one would no exactly who it came from... heh |
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| [23:13:10] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:13:15] | defi_: | anyone have problems with ivtv in 2.6.15? |
| [23:13:21] | xris: | http://www.dnforum.com/f116/mythtv-com-6000-u . . . -136696.html |
| [23:13:48] | Beirdo: | URL from hell |
| [23:14:29] | kormoc: | defi_, I have |
| [23:14:57] | xris: | Beirdo: yeah. gist is that mythtv.com is on the auction block for $3600 |
| [23:15:07] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [23:15:30] | defi_: | kormoc like getting it to work? |
| [23:15:31] | Beirdo: | betcha Chutt can get it for free if he bitches correctly at the registrars |
| [23:15:44] | Beirdo: | he should trademark mythtv, then they are fubar |
| [23:15:49] | xris: | Beirdo: yup.. anti-squatting laws protect him that way |
| [23:15:52] | xris: | TM is expensive. |
| [23:16:13] | Beirdo: | but the anti-squatting is primarily for trademarks and company names |
| [23:16:24] | kormoc: | defi_, I never could, so I stayed at 2.6.14 and ivtv .4.0 |
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| [23:16:43] | Aneurysm9: | does a trademark need to be registered for anti-squatting provisions to apply, use in commerce might be enough |
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| [23:17:08] | defi_: | kormoc lol thats what im about to do |
| [23:17:24] | Beirdo: | mythtv ain't in commerce either really |
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| [23:17:37] | kindjal: | Greetings all: anyone tell my why in mythtv-setup "Channel Editor" the scan for channels button is disabled? |
| [23:17:44] | defi_: | kormoc everything worked fine (except dvd) in .14 |
| [23:17:52] | Aneurysm9: | defi_: I had a particular revision that worked with 2.6.15, not sure which now, but the 0.6 branch works with 2.6.16 RCs |
| [23:18:25] | Aneurysm9: | well, commerce has a fairly broad definition, 501(c)(3) orgs can get trademarks and they're not really in "commerce" either in a strict sense |
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| [23:21:29] | Sneezer: | does anyone know of an easy way to get a YPbPr signal to the tv without a converter box. i.e. a pci card that will do it |
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| [23:23:32] | defi_: | Aneurysm9 There are to things the compiler complains about VIDEO_DECODER, and AUDIO_DECODER; do you know anything about that? |
| [23:23:45] | defi_: | says I need them in make.conf |
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| [23:28:45] | Aneurysm9: | defi_: are you using an ebuild? wouldn't know about that then, I use svn checkouts |
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| [23:33:07] | defi_: | yeah using ebuild |
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| [23:34:19] | Aneurysm9: | defi_: try checking out svn rev 3081 from the trunk and compiling from that |
| [23:35:24] | defi_: | ok |
| [23:36:16] | Achew22: | does anyone know of any good tutorials to install .19 from source on ubuntu |
| [23:38:09] | kormoc: | Achew22, check the wiki |
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| [23:49:54] | j3g: | Mythtv features say: "The ability to analyze recorded shows for commercials" ... but how does it do that? |
| [23:50:25] | dtm: | j3g: shhhHHHHHhh... that's *our* secret! |
| [23:50:33] | dtm: | for mythtv to know, and you to find out! |
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| [23:51:41] | ste__: | j3g: some sort of broadcast flags delimiting the adverts |
| [23:52:08] | j3g: | ste__: i don't think all chans would provide that... that is detrimental to their profits |
| [23:52:23] | mchou: | ok, I'm being dense here. How do i rip subchapters from a dvd using myth? |
| [23:52:34] | ste__: | wel lin that case, I don't know |
| [23:53:11] | Aneurysm9: | j3g: it runs through the video looking for telltale indicators of commercial breaks, such as blocks of black frames, station logos, etc. |
| [23:53:15] | mchou: | my dvd title has several chapters, and it only rips the the first chapter |
| [23:53:56] | Anduin: | mchou – You can select them, notice the UI, see how you can switch and select? |
| [23:54:36] | mchou: | Anduin: afaik tha only alows selection of "title" not "chapters" |
| [23:54:41] | mchou: | that* |
| [23:55:15] | Anduin: | mchou – Yeah, I didn't think you actually wanted what you were asking for. |
| [23:55:23] | mchou: | Anduin: each "title" on this dvd contains many "chapters" |
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| [23:55:36] | Anduin: | Yes, I know. |
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| [23:56:06] | mchou: | Anduin: is there a good way in linux to rip the chapters? |
| [23:57:01] | Achew22: | xris are you here? I have a developer sugestion about nuvencode |
| [23:57:24] | Anduin: | mchou – mencoder can do it |
| [23:57:42] | mchou: | Anduin: know thw mencoder command line? :) |
| [23:57:56] | mchou: | the* |
| [23:58:03] | xris: | wtf is nuvencode? |
| [23:58:10] | xris: | ;) |
| [23:58:26] | kormoc: | xris, it converts a exported nuv into a myth nuv! |
| [23:58:27] | Achew22: | thanks for making me feel stupid... |
| [23:58:30] | Achew22: | lol |
| [23:58:39] | Achew22: | kormoc you know xris wrote nuvexport right? |
| [23:58:48] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [23:58:51] | Anduin: | mchou – It is in the man page. |
| [23:58:53] | xris: | Achew22: kormoc works in the office next to mine. |
| [23:58:59] | Achew22: | really? |
| [23:59:01] | Achew22: | thats cool |
| [23:59:11] | xris: | yeah. I hired him because of this channel, actually |
| [23:59:16] | Achew22: | thats sweet |
| [23:59:19] | Achew22: | can I get a job? |
| [23:59:27] | xris: | sorry, no more openings. |
| [23:59:30] | Achew22: | damn... |
| [23:59:33] | Achew22: | what do you do? |
| [23:59:41] | xris: | LAMP |
| [23:59:53] | ** xris doesn't like that acronym much ** | |
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