Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Tuesday, March 7th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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robthebob:

id be interested to know how you gave a button more than one function

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xris:

chanid=1072 --starttime=20060303213000

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Sneezer:

xris is there a way to parse that out of the filename?

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xris:

robthebob: maybe your remote conf file is set up with two names for that button?

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robthebob:

xris, there are set up to map to '[' and ']'

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kormoc:

robthebob, you could toss up your lircrc file and let us take a gander

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robthebob:

pressing those buttons on the keyboard gives the right result

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xris:

Sneezer: it's right there in the filename. user job should have stuff for putting other vars in besides the filename

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Sneezer:

do you know what they are? I havent found a list of them yet

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xris:

robthebob: that only adds strength to my suggestion

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xris:

Sneezer: sorry, I run nuvexport by hand.

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robthebob:

they do have mappings for irexec as well

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robthebob:

see the pastebin now

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robthebob:

thanks for looking guys

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Sneezer:

xris i found it its at http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/20 . . . /004233.html if your curious it has it all

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robthebob:

http://pastebin.ca/44728

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Sneezer:

nuvexport --chanid=%CHANID% --starttime=%STARTTIME% --mode=divx --path=/var/lib/mythtv/dad/ --ffmpeg --deinterlace --cutlist will that do what I want

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xris:

cool

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Sneezer:

that looks good to you?

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xris:

of course, --cutlist won't do anything because user jobs run as soon as the recording is over, and you wouldn't have a cutlist at that poihnt

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Sneezer:

crap...

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Sneezer:

how do I get it to run a little later? or complete auto-commercial flag first

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xris:

commflag != cutlist

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kormoc:

robthebob, your mythtv Vol+ is mapped to f11

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xris:

Sneezer: looks like I accidentally left some debug code in that was preventing --infile from working.

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kormoc:

line 210

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Sneezer:

xris don't worry about it — we got it working now i think...

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robthebob:

yeah i just changed it kormoc

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robthebob:

they both do vol+

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Sneezer:

does anyone know of a way to make the jobs run after commercial flag has run

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astate:

I'm having some problems with a PVR-150-MCE...ivtv-detect detects it fine and everything, but cat /dev/video0 > somefile.mpg creates a 0 byte file...I've read something about changing streamtypes, but I don't know where to do that

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xris:

Sneezer: I just need to add a --gencutlist option... just never got around to it.

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robthebob:

just tested removing the vol+ binding and it then only toggles the subtitles

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xris:

Sneezer: of course, you'd still have to upgrade to .19

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Sneezer:

damn the irony

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robthebob:

it seems like all buttons have the side effect of pressing 'T'

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Sneezer:

xris do you have enough spare time to walk a newb like me through upgrading?

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robthebob:

i remember now that when i scroll through options with text fields they would get a 'T' appended

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xris:

upgrading for me has been "install updated packages".... works like a charm

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robthebob:

very random, and thoughts xris?

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xris:

robthebob: no clue.. there's a reason I don't mess much with lirc.. it sucks.

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robthebob:

thats a shame for a pvr system really!

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robthebob:

how about this:

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robthebob:

begin

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robthebob:

prog = mythtv

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robthebob:

button = *

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robthebob:

config = T

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robthebob:

end

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Sneezer:

xris what do you run?

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kormoc:

that would do it

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robthebob:

that is very ridiculous

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robthebob:

i have a * key on my remote!

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kormoc:

you would need to escape the *

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kormoc:

try *

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xris:

Sneezer: fedora... and occasionally ubuntu

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robthebob:

yeah

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Sneezer:

i run ubuntu... um do you have .19 working on there?

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xris:

no.. that's my work box, and I never bothered to upgrade

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Sneezer:

you have mythtv on your work box?

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xris:

yeah. I'll occasionally cut commercials from the stuff we record on the company mythbox

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xris:

mostly just for changing settings, though

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robthebob:

that fixed the 'T' side effect

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Sneezer:

ooh cool

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robthebob:

* doesnt work now, but way better

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robthebob:

i'll find a workaround

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robthebob:

cheers guys

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kormoc:

could just call it star

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Sneezer:

or you could call it achew22 in honor of me...

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Sneezer:

wow — i'm not on my name

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xris:

would really be nice if someone added a "packages" link from the .19 info page on the wiki

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sphing:

anyone know how to force a makefile to compile

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xris:

sphing: um.....

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robthebob:

oh yeah thanks kormoc, i forgot the names were configurable

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sphing:

xris: like is says 'up to date'

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xris:

sphing: make distclean

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xris:

or make clean

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monolith:

hey all – how do i compile mythburnui? do i need to compile it against myth svn or something? its missing all sort of .h files

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sphing:

xris: I'm writing the Makefile...

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kormoc:

sphing, in your make clean, remove all the .o files and the binarys that it made

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xris:

sphing: oh. then what kormoc just said.

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sphing:

yea I did... but still it says make up to date

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sphing:

and binary isnt there

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kormoc:

shouldn't

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sphing:

http://pastebin.com/588045

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** kormoc shrugs **

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kormoc:

what about the .o files?

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sphing:

ill make sure all the subdirs are deleteing the .o

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** FairWtns is too lazy to right a 20 line bash script. **

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FairWtns:

I'm even too lazy to write one.

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FairWtns:

wtf.

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FairWtns:

Mar 6 19:13:05 [sshd] Invalid user staff from 203.123.190.41

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FairWtns:

Mar 6 19:13:06 [sshd] reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for colo41–190.pacif

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FairWtns:

ic.net.in failed – POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT!

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FairWtns:

Mar 6 19:13:09 [sshd] Invalid user sales from 203.123.190.41

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FairWtns:

M

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FairWtns:

I get like 50 of those of weeks. Sometimes more than that in a day.

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FairWtns:

Someone hack that guy. And the other 10 I-assume-spambots that try to break in daily.

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Syphn:

anyone have any idea where i can find a list of mythmusic visuilizations

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Syphn:

they are cut on on my tooltips

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FairWtns:

I can list them. Only take a sec.

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FairWtns:

Random MonoScope StereoScope Spectrum BumpScope Goom Synaesthesia AlbumArt Gears Blank

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FairWtns:

Although only Goom, Synaesthesia and AlbumArt are worth a damn.

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Syphn:

Any idea of the the requirements per effect? OpenGL etc.

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FairWtns:

I think gears is the only one that requires opengl, and it's not really worth it. I remember Spectrum requiring some odd gentoo use flag.

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FairWtns:

It let me know when I tried to play it.

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Syphn:

hmm guess i'll just have to give them a shot!

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Syphn:

thanks for the list thought

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FairWtns:

fftw

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FairWtns:

No prob. Spectrum requirered fftw for fast-fourier transforms. No worth it at all in my opinion. Prolly because Goom is so good.

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Syphn:

hmmm not i have to figure ut if i have open gl and fftw installed

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Syphn:

any idea on that one?

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FairWtns:

What linux distro?

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Syphn:

fc4

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Kelerion:

try: glxinfo | grep render

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FairWtns:

Hrm. Me no smart. Thinking.

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Syphn:

sec. installing fftw and fftw2

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Kelerion:

theres loads of ways really... even down to seeing if the opengl savers run properly

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FairWtns:

Yeah, I mean glxgears works, but the glxinfo way works good.

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Kelerion:

on mine that line gives:

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Kelerion:

direct rendering: Yes

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Kelerion:

GLX_ATI_render_texture

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Kelerion:

OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X700 PRO Generic

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Syphn:

now i just need to know if i have opengl?

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Kelerion:

try that command

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Syphn:

Error: unable to open display (null)

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Kelerion:

nvidia card?

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Syphn:

yup

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Kelerion:

xdpyinfo | grep GL

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Syphn:

xdpyinfo: unable to open display "".

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Kelerion:

on one of mine that gives "GLX, NV-GLX"

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Kelerion:

need to run it on the machine.. not in ssh

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Syphn:

awe...sec

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Kelerion:

or.. "export DISPLAY=:0" as same user as X is running

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Kelerion:

then run it

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Kelerion:

in ssh

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Syphn:

no results

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Syphn:

nothing returned

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Kelerion:

no opengl then

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Syphn:

awek .. good to know ...

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Syphn:

now i wonder if atrpms has opengl package

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Kelerion:

mythtv@livingroom:/root$ export DISPLAY=:0

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Kelerion:

mythtv@livingroom:/root$ xdpyinfo | grep GL

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Kelerion:

GLX

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Kelerion:

NV-GLX

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Kelerion:

thats my machine in my living room

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Syphn:

is that no opengl initalized or installed?

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Kelerion:

installed

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Kelerion:

and running

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Syphn:

so its not even installed? or could it be instlled but not initialized/running?

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Kelerion:

how did you install your card driver?

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Juski:

uhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Kelerion:

this is where Juski corrects me :P

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Juski:

god no I've just been in mp3 tagging hell

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** Kelerion chuckles **

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Syphn:

Kelerion: yum install nvidia-graphics7676

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Kelerion:

Syphn, probably installed then.. you need to sort out your xorg.conf to initialise it

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Syphn:

and modified: xorg.conf

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Juski:

modprobe nvidia?

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Kelerion:

yup.. need to make sure thats loaded too.. although chances are yum did that

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Kelerion:

I don't know fc4 as well as I used to.. so can't remember how it handles stuff like that

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Juski:

the more pain I see yum causing the less I think it should be so named

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Kelerion:

agreed

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Syphn:

lol ...

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Syphn:

u want me to execute modprobe nvidia?

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Kelerion:

I thought it was the best thing since sliced-bread till I used apt

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Kelerion:

Syphn, lsmod | grep nv

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Kelerion:

see if it's there

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Syphn:

yup its there ..

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Kelerion:

good good

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Syphn:

everything is working fine i just wanted to get openg working for visulizations

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Juski:

oh fack. I only have 1221 duplicated titles

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Kelerion:

nvidia has it's own opengl which needs to be running

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Gumby:

anyone know what mysql command I am looking for if I am wanting to change a whole column from "name1" to "name2"?

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Kelerion:

and that won't run unless the nvidia module is running

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Kelerion:

Gumby, I use phpmyadmin for stuff like that... much easier

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Kelerion:

Syphn, make sure "Load "glx"" is there in your xorg.conf

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Syphn:

Kelerion: i'll check that now ...

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Syphn:

i think its commented out

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Syphn:

and when its not, i should be able to xdpyinfo | grep GL and get a result?

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Kelerion:

there might be other issues... but try that first

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Syphn:

other issues :-( eww

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Juski:

wait & see

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Syphn:

ya i cant try it now the wife is watching tv :-(

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Syphn:

but i definatly will when shes done

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Kelerion:

Syphn, this is my Modules section on an ATI machine with OpenGL working perfectly

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Kelerion:

http://pastebin.com/588096

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Kelerion:

so compare that with what you have

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Syphn:

thanks man :-)

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Syphn:

won't mind be different with nvidia?

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Kelerion:

no idea... I haven't setup opengl on my frontend end yet... this is just my dev machine

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Kelerion:

but should give you an idea

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Syphn:

ya i'll take a peak thanks for the help :_)

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Juski:

there's plenty of nvidia how-to guides out there though

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Kelerion:

yup.. there's tons of them.. and example xorg.conf's for various setups

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kormoc:

Syphn, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/xorg.conf

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Kelerion:

hey kormoc

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Kelerion:

kormoc, knows more about this than me.. he helped me setup mine

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kormoc:

hihi :)

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Kelerion:

and I bet he's been watching... did I give bad advice? lol

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Juski:

ack. never in my life did I envisage I'd own over 10,000 music tracks

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Kelerion:

it's a nice feeling though right? I have just over 5000 and it's nice to know I have something for every mood I'm in

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kormoc:

Gumby, ALTER TABLE table CHANGE col1 col2 column_definition;

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Juski:

nice feeling. hmmmm

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kormoc:

Kelerion, it's good :)

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Kelerion:

it's goooood? cool :)

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Gumby:

mysql kills my brain. hehe

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Gumby:

one person says UPDATE, another says ALTER

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kormoc:

UPDATE changes the data

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Kelerion:

am supposed to be typing up my wifes notes for her to present tomorrow... 27 A4 pages.... she just sprung it on me... lol

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Gumby:

yes, which is what I want

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kormoc:

ALTER changes the column type

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kormoc:

ahh

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kormoc:

Gumby, then yeah, use UPDATE

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kormoc:

Gumby, UPDATE table SET col='blah';

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Gumby:

I want to change all data in the hostname column of mythconverg.keybindings table from hostname1 to newhostname

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kormoc:

ahh

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Kelerion:

thats update

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Gumby:

sometimes explaining what I want is the hardest part

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Gumby:

hehe

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kormoc:

UPDATE keybindings SET hostname='newhostname' WHERE hostname='hostname1';

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Juski:

27 pages? ouch. like the time my wife brought 200 pages of a takeover proposal to transcribe into electronic format in one night. thank god for OCR

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Kelerion:

I wouldn't mind.. .I not a bad typist.. but her handwriting is worse than mine... so I spend most of the time trying to figure out what she's trying to say.. lol

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Juski:

lol

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Gumby:

ah, there we go. I hate the SET missing. everything else was correct

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Kelerion:

I'm not a bad typist... even... see? lol

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Juski:

me not bad wif con-scooters eiver

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Kelerion:

lol

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Kelerion:

my typist is wierd... I wasn't really trained to type... but I've been doing it since I was 9.. so my fingers are all over the place – crisscrossing on nearly every keystroke – but my fingers seem to know where all the keys are

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Kelerion:

typing

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Juski:

we've got programmers at work who type with one finger just about

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Kelerion:

I heard of something years ago called "muscle memory" so I just put it down to that

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Juski:

so's that why my left hand is always .. never mind

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Kelerion:

I'm not ultra-fast.. maybe 40 words a minute.. maybe more... but thats faster than my brain works so I make a lot of mistakes.. :P

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** Kelerion laughs **

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Kelerion:

ok – gonna watch Prison Break.. then get this typing done :)

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atom_jack:

i'm getting the following error running mythtv-setup: QGLContext::makeCurrent(): Cannot make invalid context current.

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atom_jack:

and the display just sits there doing nothing

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atom_jack:

oh wait nm there it is

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atom_jack:

weird

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atom_jack:

ok well it's just going really slow

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IRC:

hey can someone helpme

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atom_jack:

oh wait i get it, it's not displaying the menu items, but i can select them with the cursor keys

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IRC:

i installed knoppmyth earlier today and i want to reinstall it. what partition should i install it to

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kormoc:

IRC, /dev/sdz32

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IRC:

wait i have another problem

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IRC:

i hooked up my pc to an old monitor. how can i change the resolution without going into myth

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kormoc:

edit your xorg.conf file

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IRC:

how can i do that without booting into the gui

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kormoc:

boot into a console and edit your xorg.conf file

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IRC:

can you walk me through the steps

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** kormoc sighs **

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kormoc:

not really, without knowing knoppmyth better

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IRC:

dang

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IRC:

can i hook it up to another monitor and edit it with a text editor then reboot?

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sphing:

kormoc: I just recheckout my source, so there is NO binary files, and it still says 'up to date'

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Kelerion:

boot into the GUI (even if it's outta whack) and press CTRL+ALT+F6 (Ithink it's F6) that'll take you to a console.. .then use google to search for an xorg.conf similar to the setup you have

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** kormoc shrugs **

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Kelerion:

or even better... ssh into it from an other machine once it's booted

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sphing:

kormoc: http://pastebin.com/588121

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IRC:

whatever kormoc: thats hard. can i just reinstall knoppmyth to redetect the new monitor?

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Octane:

I get tremendous feedback (static noise) in the background of every recording and of livetv. anyone know wasabi?

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kormoc:

IRC, perhaps

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kormoc:

I know wasabi, it's yummy

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Octane:

lol

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IRC:

kormoc: whenever i put the disc in the drive, i go to auto install then it asks me which partition do i want to install it to. which one?

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kormoc:

IRC, we don't know, as we don't know how you set up the drive and all that

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IRC:

it has 3ext partitions

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** kormoc shrugs **

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Octane:

i cant even search the mailing list because i dont know how to describe my issue

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Kelerion:

IRC, am sure if you read the docs on the knoppmyth site it'll give you instructions on what you want to do

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IRC:

aHA!

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IRC:

i think i got it

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Juski:

omfg someone's sent me a dance mix of the Magnum PI theme tune

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Kelerion:

thats just a little bit sick

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Juski:

it's actually quite good

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Kelerion:

oh dear

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Juski:

so much for not being on any promo lists anymore

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defi_:

with LVM whats better; creating multiple volume groups or creating multiple logical volumes, or does it matter?

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IRC:

kormoc: thanks i got it figured out

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jd86:

i know that i shouldn't be asking about svn but... my buttons went bye bye on my mythfrontend, i can still move around if i pretend i know where the buttons are and watch tv, and so on and so forth but this isn't right i like to know what i'm hitting... any ideas?

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red_fox:

my capture card is working, I can view live tv in myth, but recordings are always 0 bytes

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red_fox:

and the channel changer no longer works

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red_fox:

I just upgraded my kernel, what did I screw up?

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Perdignus:

jd86: update your video drivers? close & reopen mythfrontend?

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jd86:

Perdignus: i actually did a full reboot! (very rare for me) i didn't change video drivers, i can see the blue backround for blue osd

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jd86:

but just not the buttons

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jd86:

QGLContext::makeCurrent(): Cannot make invalid context current.

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jnunez:

jd86: Sounds like OpenGL issues

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jd86:

randomly?

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jd86:

i mean

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jd86:

like my problem or that release of svn myth

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Perdignus:

jd86: what vid card do you have and which version of the drivers are you using?

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Gumby:

grrr, I cant figure his out. my tvlistings via mythweb are the proper time. But when I choose to record something via mythweb the recordings shows up in the scheduler as 2 hours later

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phoner:

anyone konw is there any easy way to turn off all recording tempoarily?

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Gumby:

stop the backend

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Perdignus:

Gumby: I had a similar problem once, but MythWeb was off

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phoner:

I want to use it to play shows though

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Gumby:

Perdignus: off how?

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Perdignus:

MythWeb's time was off compared to the backend

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Perdignus:

I think I was able to fix it by removing my video cards and readding them in setup

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swim:

hey folks I've got a pvr-150 that comes with a remote, all I really want is to get the remote to work so I can use it with amarok... does anyone know if that will be possible?

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kormoc:

Perdignus, is perhaps the clock different on the web server and the backend?

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Perdignus:

They were both the same machine

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rf:

hiya, anyone here using a twinhan digital tuner device atm?

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swim:

anyone?

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Perdignus:

swim: if you get it working with lirc, I would imagine you could use it for amarok

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swim:

Perdignus, so hmm I need to get lirc working

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Perdignus:

yes, you need to start there www.lirc.org

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swim:

thx

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swim:

ive got the ubuntu packages installed...

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Perdignus:

swim: I'd go for the cvs source and build it yourself, uninstall the ubuntu package first

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a1fa:

Juski

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a1fa:

did you get xbmc-mythtv to work?

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defi_:

whats better for music files jfs or reiserfs. or does it matter?

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a1fa:

ext3

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sphing:

defi_: doesnt matter

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a1fa:

man

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a1fa:

i have a crazy ass problem

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sphing:

files arent big enough

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a1fa:

:P

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a1fa:

i want xbmc-mythtv to work

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sphing:

.... why

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a1fa:

it connects to mytht, but no shows listed

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defi_:

sphing didn;t think so thanks

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a1fa:

i cant access any of the shows

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sphing:

alfa: why are you using xbmc and not linux

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defi_:

sphing flac files can get pretty big

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sphing:

defi_: whats big?

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defi_:

over 4GB

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sphing:

ok not reiser

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defi_:

wait nvm

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a1fa:

sphing : how would i use linux?

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defi_:

there under 4GB

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a1fa:

i dont have a spare partition

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a1fa:

no way to boot it

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a1fa:

i would have to make live boot cds

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sphing:

alfa: do you have another machine you can nfs root it?

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defi_:

how about this; is it better to use multiple volume groups or just one vg and many lv's

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sphing:

no idea

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a1fa:

sphing : yeah.. ok.. but how would i boot it?

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a1fa:

i dont think they have a boot loader

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sphing:

you make the kernel on a linux machine

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sphing:

i KNOW they do

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a1fa:

ok

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sphing:

in fact they have two...

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sphing:

xromwell and xbeboot

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a1fa:

what bootloader are you using?

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sphing:

xromwell

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a1fa:

i am running unleashx

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sphing:

ihave no idea what that is

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a1fa:

softmod

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a1fa:

i didnt chip mine

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sphing:

neither did I

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Beirdo:

!trout a1fa

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** MythLogBot slaps a1fa with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

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a1fa:

hi Beirdo

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sphing:

HHAHAHA AWESOME

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sphing:

new bot Beirdo

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Beirdo:

yup

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sphing:

ah

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SlicerDicer-:

!trout slicerdicer

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** MythLogBot slaps slicerdicer with a trout on behalf of SlicerDicer-... **

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SlicerDicer-:

there

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Kelerion:

okies... thats all the typing done... glad thats over... lol

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swim:

i dont get this: in a tar.gz, if i unpack it it makes a modules/ ... where in gods name am I supposed to put that directory in order to build the modules? in /usr/src/ ? or /usr/src/linux-xxxx ?

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rtsai:

!trout !trout

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** MythLogBot slaps !trout with a trout on behalf of rtsai... **

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rtsai:

!trout the salami

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** MythLogBot slaps the salami with a trout on behalf of rtsai... **

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rtsai:

!trout foo * MythLogBot

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** MythLogBot slaps foo * MythLogBot with a trout on behalf of rtsai... **

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rtsai:

heh

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rtsai:

!trout foo \n* MythLogBot

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** MythLogBot slaps foo \n* MythLogBot with a trout on behalf of rtsai... **

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Kelerion:

nice try.. lol

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rtsai:

had to try :)

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Beirdo:

rtsai: if I think you're trying to kill my bot, I will ban you

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rtsai:

sorry

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rtsai:

just trying to terminate a sentence

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Beirdo:

heh, you wanna try to kill it, go to another channel where I have it running :)

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Kelerion:

Beirdo is too smart to let something like that happen... well, I'd hope so! :P

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rtsai:

i wasn't so much trying to kill it as trying to discover easter eggs

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Beirdo:

leave this one unmolested :)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

OK :)

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Beirdo:

if ya wanna kill it, try in #mythtvlog

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Beirdo:

:)

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Krazylegz:

Muahahaha.

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kormoc:

I wish there was a way to get myth to auto import the cut list

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rf:

Krazylegz: you're not the professional eater are you?

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Captain_Murdoch:

mythcommflag -s STARTTIME -c CHANID --gencutlist

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Chutt:

autoresponding bots suck.

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Beirdo:

rtsai, if you want to find easter eggs, you can read the code too

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kormoc:

Captain_Murdoch, ooh, nice, and that can be a userjob I assume?

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Krazylegz:

rf: Certainly not. I weigh ~140lbs!

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Beirdo:

Chutt: that's why it isn't terribly chatty.

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Captain_Murdoch:

kormoc: yes

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kormoc:

Krazylegz, that's a bit much for a pro eater

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kormoc:

Captain_Murdoch, thanks muchly!

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Chutt:

looks to be rather chatty to me

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Beirdo:

it will respond if you poke it

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Chutt:

why?

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Beirdo:

and only if you poke it

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xris:

it's far quieter than the last one.

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kormoc:

I think it's more the 'fun' trouting that's gonna go on and on when some less... *cough*mature*cough* people find out about it

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xris:

Beirdo: should set it control for plugins... like this one, require +v

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Chutt:

bots shouldn't ever talk in channel

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Beirdo:

xris, not a bad idea

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Chutt:

if they must respond, it really should only be via msg

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swim:

Perdignus, I dont get how to set these: LIRC_SERIAL_PORT="" and LIRC_SERIAL_IRQ=""

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xris:

Chutt: I personally like the idea of having it respond once every few minutes to trac links that people mention....

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Chutt:

in the channel?

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Chutt:

what's the use of that?

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kormoc:

swim, man export

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swim:

kormoc, no man for export

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xris:

Chutt: so people don't have to go digging for the URL.

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kormoc:

swim, odd, but in that case, export name=value sets it

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Chutt:

and that can't be done in privmsgs?

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Beirdo:

because it's of some use to some of the people.

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Chutt:

i absolutely detest chatty bots.

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xris:

Chutt: sure it can, but it's less useful, then..

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rtsai:

!fart MythLogBot

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Beirdo:

hah

[03:38:49]

Chutt:

xris, how's it less useful?

[03:39:09]

bgravato:

hi! anyone here that owns a Plextor ConvertX has managed to make it work with udev instead of hotplug?

[03:39:20]

Kelerion:

rf, I *have* a twinhan card... but not using it for anything but it's remote at the moment

[03:39:29]

xris:

Chutt: well, means that if someone tells me to go see #123, I then have to /msg the bot to tell me the URL for #123, rather than having the bot already having shown it.

[03:39:54]

xris:

and so does every other person who wanted to know the URL

[03:40:04]

Chutt:

so you'd want the bot to autorespond to the entire channel if someone sticks a # in front of a few numbers?

[03:40:31]

rtsai:

I'm #1! I'm #1!

[03:40:42]

Chutt:

spam sucks.

[03:40:48]

xris:

if it's a valid ticket, yes... and only once every X minutes/pages

[03:41:04]

Chutt:

that can still be abused.

[03:41:04]

xris:

and that's what /ignore is for, no?

[03:41:14]

xris:

it can be controlled

[03:41:22]

Beirdo:

and it WILL be controlled

[03:41:26]

Chutt:

whatever.

[03:41:38]

Chutt:

i'm not going to hang out in a channel with a crappy bot in it.

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xris:

lol

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Beirdo:

lousy attitude on him

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xris:

chutt must be in a good mood tonight.

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rf:

Kelerion: still there? I am trying to figure out how to use the remote with mine :-)

[03:49:55]

Kelerion:

is it a USB jobby?

[03:50:08]

rf:

yeah, the TwinhanDTV Alpha

[03:50:17]

Kelerion:

your in luck... one sec

[03:50:26]

rf:

black remote, silver panel, 16 buttons

[03:50:34]

rf:

sorry not 16

[03:50:46]

rf:

32

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Kelerion:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . nhan;#171349

[03:51:29]

Kelerion:

read that, download, compile.. run

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Kelerion:

all is well

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rf:

reading now :-)

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rf:

if this works I will have got everything working finally! :-)

[03:51:58]

Kelerion:

it works.. and is *really* easy

[03:52:02]

Kelerion:

and so cool

[03:52:41]

Kelerion:

actually... read this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/151845

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rf:

Kelerion: yeah I'd found that prg but I am getting a similar issue to ffrr on the boards where it says Searching /lib/modules/2.6.13.2-chw-3/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko and then gives root prompt again

[03:59:07]

Kelerion:

ffrr?

[04:00:50]

rf:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/171349#171349

[04:01:19]

Kelerion:

rmmod usbhid

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Kelerion:

./usbhid-twinhan

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Kelerion:

modprobe usbhid

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rf:

with backend running, or not? with device plugged in? or not?

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Kelerion:

are you running a combined FE/BE??

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rf:

yep

[04:02:51]

Kelerion:

while it's all running with it plugged in

[04:03:10]

Kelerion:

I have mine running during the startup script

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rf:

ok, back in a minute – about to test...

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Kelerion:

kk

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rf-2:

just rebooting the machine....

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rf-2:

out of curiousity, did you have to add a command to reset the starting channel in the db every time you boot up as well?

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Kelerion:

just getting more beer :)

[04:05:56]

rf-2:

it seems my usb tuner doesnt want to play nicely, unless i stop the backend, type

[04:05:57]

rf-2:

echo "update cardinput set startchan = 7 where cardinputid = 0;" | mysql --user=mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg

[04:06:00]

rf-2:

then restart

[04:06:11]

rf-2:

oh my – now you know my sql password! :-)

[04:07:18]

xris:

rf-2: as long as it's not your machine password, too... there've been a number of breakins with user mythtv recently

[04:07:33]

Beirdo:

heh

[04:07:51]

Kelerion:

I don't use the card itself... just the remote i got with it

[04:07:56]

rf-2:

xris: no, my root password is 'root'... (just kidding)

[04:08:18]

rf-2:

Kelerion: yeah still aving same problem. rmmod usbhid, then ran the util and

[04:08:29]

Kelerion:

rf-2, I won't do anything naughty... but Beirdo over there? I wouldn't trust him if I were you :P

[04:08:30]

rf-2:

root@mythtv:~# ./usbhid-twinhan

[04:08:30]

rf-2:

Searching /lib/modules/2.6.13.2-chw-3/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko

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rf-2:

root@mythtv:~#

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Beirdo:

hah

[04:08:43]

Beirdo:

I have enough machines to break of my own

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Kelerion:

it's *supposed* to display that searching line... at least it does on mine

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kurumin:

hello ppl

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rf-2:

i wonder if my usbhid module is different to yours

[04:09:23]

** kormoc is amused **

[04:09:36]

rf-2:

root@mythtv:~# cksum /lib/modules/2.6.13.2-chw-3/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko

[04:09:36]

rf-2:

2409053560 50737 /lib/modules/2.6.13.2-chw-3/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko

[04:09:39]

Kelerion:

well.. I'm running a different kernel... but I've used it on various kernels and various dists

[04:09:43]

rf-2:

does that match yours?

[04:09:49]

kurumin:

i've bought an prolink pixelview card and can't make it work

[04:09:51]

kormoc:

my mythtv user doesn't need to login to start up X and all that, it's amusing

[04:09:51]

Kelerion:

probably not no

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Kelerion:

kormoc, mine either... have even got it set to NOPASSWD in sudoers to make life easier

[04:10:38]

rf-2:

Kelerion: any chance you could dcc/email me your usbhid module so I could test with that?

[04:10:49]

kormoc:

Kelerion, I just have @reboot startx in mythtv's cron and it's login shell /bin/false :P

[04:10:54]

rf-2:

there's some freaky shit on ABC-TV right now (in australia)

[04:11:07]

Kelerion:

rf-2, are you reloading the module after applying that patch?

[04:11:12]

rf-2:

Kelerion: yep

[04:11:38]

rf-2:

Kelerion: i suspect like 'ffrr' in the thread that the util is not recognising something in my module that it wants to and therefore doesnt patch it

[04:11:43]

Kelerion:

well it must be a different remote then is all I can think of

[04:12:19]

rf-2:

Kelerion: could be a diff remote, but given I'm not getting the expected output from the util, I suspect its a problem with the patch attempt of the module

[04:13:21]

Kelerion:

and what is the expected output?

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Kelerion:

mine does this:

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Kelerion:

root@livingroom:~# rmmod usbhid

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Kelerion:

root@livingroom:~# twinhan

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Kelerion:

Searching /lib/modules/2.6.12-10–386/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko

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Kelerion:

root@livingroom:~# modprobe usbhid

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rf-2:

oh

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Kelerion:

and it works perfectly

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rf-2:

other people reported it saying "Found" and other stuff

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rf-2:

"Wrote ok" etc

[04:14:05]

Kelerion:

as I said a bit ago:

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Kelerion:

Kelerion it's *supposed* to display that searching line... at least it does on mine

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rf-2:

right – i just assumed it was supposed to say searching, but then continue with 'found', etc

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Kelerion:

anyways – 4:15am here... heading off for a couple of hours sleep

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geoff_:

kurumin: what seems to be the prob

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rf-2:

Kel-kippin: thanks for the help

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kurumin:

geoff: it shows everything from the rca jack, but shows "no signal" from the cable tv jack

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geoff_:

what card is this?

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kurumin:

a prolink pixelview plytv mpeg2 one

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geoff_:

using ivtv driver?

[04:19:28]

kurumin:

what's this driver?

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kurumin:

may it work in linux?

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geoff_:

what driver are you using?

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kurumin:

i think it's bttv

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astate:

my dmesg contains a lot of messages like "ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x40045612!" and cat /dev/video0 doesn't output anything on a hauppauge pvr 150 mce if anyone can help me out

[04:20:28]

geoff_:

kurumin: let me look into it for a second

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kurumin:

geoff:??

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astate:

i've found a bunch of posts about it in forums, but no solutions (it always seems to involve the pvr 150)

[04:22:15]

kurumin:

geoff: i've researched a little and it seems that the system can't comunicate with the card's tuner

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geoff_:

have you seen this thread? http://www.spinics.net/lists/vfl/msg14245.html

[04:23:18]

kurumin:

geoff: if i do "dmesg", it says it found the "5" tuner IE a philips one

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geoff_:

try setting the tuner = 43 option

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geoff_:

seems like others have gotten that to work for your card

[04:24:14]

geoff_:

but a lot of people have had problems with it

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kurumin:

do i need to unload the module?

[04:24:21]

geoff_:

(from the looks of things)

[04:24:23]

geoff_:

yes

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kurumin:

how do i do that?

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jnunez:

Here is a 150 issue I seem to be having.

[04:24:59]

geoff_:

how did you insert it?

[04:25:53]

jnunez:

After a few days my card will not change channels when recording. If I reboot the IVTV thinks it is a PVR-250. Only when I shutdown for a few minutes will it work again

[04:26:34]

kurumin:

i was just typing " modprobe bttv card=37 tuner=2 (enter) tvtime (enter) " modprobe bttv card=37 tuner=3"(enter)......

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geoff_:

ok, so use rrmod to remove each of those modules

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geoff_:

sorry rmmod

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geoff_:

then remodprob with tuner=43

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kurumin:

how do i list the modules?

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xris:

lsmod

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kurumin:

kurumin@kurumin:/ramdisk/home/kurumin$ rmmod tuner -f

[04:29:02]

kurumin:

ERROR: Removing 'tuner': Operation not permitted

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tomlow:

did it as root user?

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geoff_:

astate: do you have the tveprom and msp3400 modules inserted?

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Beirdo:

man rmmod

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geoff_:

tveeprom

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Beirdo:

it's rmmod -f tuner, AFAIK

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kurumin:

geoff: ok, rmmodded every bttv

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kurumin:

geoff: now what do i do?

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astate:

geoff: lsmod doesn't list them

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geoff_:

according to the link I posted, you need the following options: bttv card=37 tuner=43 tuner addr=0x61

[04:32:51]

geoff_:

astate: you need to have tveeprom inserted before the ivtv detection will work

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kurumin:

modprobe bttv card=37 tuner=43 tuner addr=0x61 ?

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geoff_:

(the tuner is a separate mod

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geoff_:

so

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geoff_:

modprobe bttv card=37 tuner=43

[04:33:19]

geoff_:

then

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geoff_:

modprobe tuner addr=0x61

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astate:

i just modprobe'd them....ivtv-detect was detecting my card though...should I rmmod ivtv and modprobe it again before trying it out?

[04:34:33]

geoff_:

I think ivtv usually inserts tveeprom for you

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sphing:

anyone know why authentication protocols fail when i run be as root but not as a regular user

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geoff_:

but if you just inserted it after ivev, rmmod ivtv and reinsert it

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kurumin:

tks, man

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geoff_:

kurumin: did that work?

[04:36:07]

kurumin:

geoff: yeah

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astate:

i just glanced way up on dmesg, and I see messages for failing to load modules for wm8775 and cx25840

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geoff_:

no problem, glad I could help

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kurumin:

geoff: now, how can i make this change permanent?

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geoff_:

kurumin: add two lines to modprobe.conf

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geoff_:

options bttv card=37 tuner=43

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geoff_:

options tuner addr=0x61

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kurumin:

ok

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sphing_:

... sorry I disconnected... anyone know why authentication protocols are failing

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geoff_:

(some distros keep options in different places)

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geoff_:

sphing_: auth protocols?

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sphing_:

thats what I said

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geoff_:

astate: did it say why they failed?

[04:38:52]

geoff_:

yeah, and I have no idea what you are talking about, I was hoping you would elaborate

[04:39:04]

sphing_:

Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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kurumin:

geoff: but i have no sound

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kurumin:

and image is not that good

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astate:

geoff: no, it just says that they failed, along with a bunch of ivtv0 warnings

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geoff_:

kurumin: that tuner may still not be right

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astate:

if I modprobe cx25840, it says its not found

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geoff_:

google some more and see if you can find the right tuner #

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kurumin:

??

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geoff_:

but I think the important thing that was making it not work at all was the tuner address

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geoff_:

kurumin you have to find the number for the tuner that other people are using

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geoff_:

I'm not going to google it for you, its something you can find

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kurumin:

ok

[04:42:56]

kurumin:

i think i alread found

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geoff_:

astate: it says the module is not found or the hardware is not found?

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geoff_:

kurumin: good

[04:43:47]

astate:

the module is not found

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astate:

is the module supposed to be packaged with ivtv? (using gentoo)

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geoff_:

astate: I think so but that might have changed recently

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geoff_:

You def need that mod for a pvr 150

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astate:

well i'm using ivtv 0.4.2

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geoff_:

astate: I don't know, check the ivtv lists

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geoff_:

if you get that mod it should work

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geoff_:

(those if you are missing more than one)

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astate:

alright

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astate:

thanks

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geoff_:

np

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geoff_:

sphing: in mythweb?

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kurumin:

...

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kurumin:

i've lost signal again

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geoff_:

kurumin: just have to keep looking until you find the right tuner

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geoff_:

one option is to look at the tuner on the card

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geoff_:

if it has a sticker over it, try gently peeling it back to see if you can find the tuner model

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kurumin:

i did that

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kurumin:

i've look for all philips chips

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kurumin:

there were 3 of them

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kurumin:

and wrote what is on them

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geoff_:

did it say specifically what model it was?

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kurumin:

nope

[04:55:00]

kurumin:

i looked for them in google

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kurumin:

but found nothing

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geoff_:

hmm

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geoff_:

I don't know what to tell you then... it is def a matter of finding the right tuner

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geoff_:

I've never heard of that card before

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kurumin:

geoff: as long as i put that adress, it may work?

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geoff_:

you need the address for sure because that tells it where to look for the tuner

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geoff_:

but you also need the correct tuner # to be able to tune channels

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gnuyen:

will a mythtv 19 frontend work with a 18 server?

[05:02:58]

gnuyen:

and is there a universal binary for os x?

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astate:

ick...apparently I had a few bad kernel settings that were blocking firmware loading modules

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geoff_:

astate, but you got it figured?

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geoff_:

gnuyen, no, ther is no ub

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geoff_:

and no frontend and backend need to match

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geoff_:

but I hear it runs ok under rosetta

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gnuyen:

i tried to run a 18 build

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gnuyen:

and no video came up

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gnuyen:

and it was slow

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gnuyen:

sigh

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gnuyen:

audio worked

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geoff_:

:)

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geoff_:

I don't have an intel machine

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geoff_:

otherwise I would try to port it

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gnuyen:

are there problems with the build?

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geoff_:

yes... some of the code in myth for intel cpus use functions that don't exist in os x

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geoff_:

mainly memalign

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astate:

geoff: i hope so, a kernel recompile and re-emerging ivtv will let me know...i found some info on it on a gentoo wiki

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geoff_:

astate: good, glad to hear

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gnuyen:

damn

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astate:

thanks, btw

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gnuyen:

i suppose i'll have to run it over X for now then

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geoff_:

gnuyen its probably 1 days work, but nearly impossible without a intel box

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geoff_:

I can't get mysql to cross compile, otherwise I could try to make a ub

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geoff_:

astate: sure, I hope I helped

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gnuyen:

wonder if it would be possible by running mac os x under vmware

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geoff_:

gnuyen: I don't have -anything- with an intel chip

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gnuyen:

that's too bad, I wonder how hard it would be to build a tinderbox of some kind

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xris:

gnuyen: any reason?

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xris:

geoff_: I'm the complete opposite.. except for the wife's ibook

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geoff_:

xris: :D at least she has some sense :D

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geoff_:

j/k

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geoff_:

gnuyen: I've done some ppc to intel porting

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xris:

as soon as intel isn't cheaper than amd for me, I'll get an athlon/opteron

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geoff_:

but I cant even build the deps for intel on a ppc mac

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geoff_:

xris: sounds nice

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geoff_:

the only x86 i have is my myth box

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geoff_:

and it doesn't have sse / sse2 that are needed for os x

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xris:

I gave up on macs a few years ago when someone gave me a free dual athlon/

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geoff_:

I hope to buy an athalon soon

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xris:

actually, osx is sse3, no?

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xris:

I don't really like osx.

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geoff_:

nosun, sse3 is optrional

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xris:

great for the average person, but it drives me nuts.

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geoff_:

xris, I like it pretty well

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geoff_:

objective c can be niced

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geoff_:

nice

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geoff_:

or a pain

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geoff_:

like for example, if an object doesn't understand a message it is passed, it just ignores it

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geoff_:

without complaining

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geoff_:

how retarded is that

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geoff_:

but at the same time, it can be really easy to build complex aps with little code

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geoff_:

I like os x because it is more flexible than winxp but more usable then linux

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geoff_:

plus it looks nice

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xris:

new nuvexport update released (supports --gencutlist now)

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astate:

geoff_: it was just kernel settings, I didn't have "add support for additional audio/video chipsets" set, its outputting great now :)

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rf:

do i need to do something special to be able to watch h.264 encoded video files on mythtv? (in video library rather than recorded tv shows)? It doesnt seem to work for me atm. (v18.1)

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phar0e:

g'day mate

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k-man:

hello

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gr00ve:

anyone familiar with the job queue's inner workings?

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gr00ve:

i haven't found my way to it looking through the source code yet, but i was curious to know what happens if the box reboots or mythbackend cores during a job – does it pick up where it left off and recover, does it start the job from scratch, does it clean up any temp files... ?

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kusznir:

Hi all: I think I have some database crouption with my myth system: Whenever I try and delete programs in mythfrontend, it hangs. Under mythweb when I select "recorded programs", it sits there for a long time, then comes back with nothing listed, and says, "progras, using b() out of B." How do I fix this?

[07:16:34]

kusznir:

(I already ran a mysql repair tables on all of myth's tables, it found no problems)

[07:17:19]

kusznir:

If it matters, I'm using KnoppMyth R5A30.2

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gr00ve:

select count(*) from recorded;

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gr00ve:

what's in there?

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kusznir:

27

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gr00ve:

hmm

[07:18:35]

gr00ve:

well – you could try a few things

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AngryElf:

which kernel will be distributed with 6.04?

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kusznir:

selecting * shows a lot of program listings.

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AngryElf:

bah, wrong chan

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gr00ve:

recorded table should be recordings you have already

[07:19:16]

gr00ve:

if you ls *.nuv (and possibly *.mpg) in your recordings dir, you should have 27 files

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kusznir:

Yea...I ment to say I saw what I expected in it.

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gr00ve:

okay, cool.

[07:19:43]

gr00ve:

so now comes the fun of looking at that table for anything amiss for a few minutes

[07:20:23]

gr00ve:

and after that, i'd try backing up your database with mysqldump, clearing the recorded table, and seeing if the gui seems better, then add back in a few entries at a time

[07:20:37]

gr00ve:

or you could run myth.rebuilddatabase.pl from the contrib/ svn dir

[07:20:59]

gr00ve:

after purging the recorded table, and you'll have to reenter info for the files. that's a real drag

[07:21:24]

gr00ve:

if that happened to me at that point i think i'd just delete everything from recorded and delete the recorded files and start over...

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gr00ve:

if you clear the recorded table and still have problems – you can restore that table and look elsewhere (like the recordedcredits table i think)

[07:23:06]

gr00ve:

anyway that may or may not help you but hopefully it'll give you some ideas

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kusznir:

I just want to make sure I'm in the correct directory...on knoppmyth, recordings are stored in /myth/tv/*, right?

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kusznir:

I see several files of the form 1002_20060202210300_20060202220000.nuv, but only half of the ones I expect....

[07:23:58]

kusznir:

i.e., only 10.....

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gr00ve:

they're stored in whatever directory your config says actually – look in mythfrontend in the setup menu under general i think

[07:24:19]

gr00ve:

hmm – well, if somehow some of the files aren't there, the frontend could be bugging out

[07:24:38]

gr00ve:

although for me it pops up an alert when there's no longer a referenced file on disk... what version of myth do you run?

[07:25:02]

kusznir:

0.18 (not sure for the last decimal)

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gr00ve:

okay... probably something they've changed the behavior of between 18 and what i'm running(slightly post 19 svn)

[07:25:48]

gr00ve:

anyway, the other thing you can do is turn on more debugging in the frontend and backend

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gr00ve:

that may reveal what's happening

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gr00ve:

i'm assuming that you have looked already at whatever might be in mythbackend.log (in /var/log/mythtv/ on my system)

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kusznir:

You wouldn't happen to know where in the db the myth recordings directory is set? (my wife is watching stuff on the myth system right now, and its downstairs...I'm in myth's db with phpmyadmin right now, so its probably easier to extract that setting directly)

[07:29:12]

gr00ve:

sure on sec

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gr00ve:

it's in the settings table(as are all the main settings)

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gr00ve:

that table has fields: value, data, hostname

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gr00ve:

the record you want is the one with value="RecordFilePrefix"

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kusznir:

yea, I just browsed through it and didn't find anything that seemed to be recordings.

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kusznir:

Ok. Didn't look for the right thing.

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kusznir:

my mythbackend.log is just filled with "waiting for a thread.."

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gr00ve:

and if you have locate/updatedb you can run(as root): updatedb&& locate .nuv and that may tell you where the others went

[07:31:27]

gr00ve:

or if they're missing entirely

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kusznir:

Yea, it is /myth/tv, so there are definately a lot of recordings missing from disk.

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gr00ve:

your db disk didn't fill up at some point did it? maybe it couldn't delete the entries for some reason...

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kusznir:

and slocate only shows the ones in /myth/tv.

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kusznir:

shouldn't have...system disk 43%, 2.5G avail, recordings part: 37%, 136G available.

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gr00ve:

yep sounds like you lost some. you may want to manually delete the entries that correspond to missing files and see if that brings it back in line. just back it up

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gr00ve:

d

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gr00ve:

and you can always get back... sorry my wireless connection just hung up for a moment

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gr00ve:

has that been a stable v18 myth installation for a while or is this newer?

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mylo:

what video format is mythtv record file ?

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kusznir:

semi-new...been running for about 2 months with little direct tweaking (although it has been needing a bit more handholding lately)

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kusznir:

mylo: depends on what its set to...Many people use the huappauge pvr-x50 series of cards, they record in mpeg2 natively, so they set their myth systems to use it.

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kusznir:

gr00ve: will myth care if there are additional files on disk that don't have db enteries? (I know they won't be accessable within myth without db enteries)

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gr00ve:

nope

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kusznir:

(it appears that I also have at least one file without matching db entry...)

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gr00ve:

you can use myth.rebuilddatabase.pl to fill in the missing db entry for that file

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mylo:

kusznir, uhm okay , mine is bt8 something IIRC

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kusznir:

mylo: it bt8xx cards are frame grabbers; I've never used them but my understanding is you can tell myth what format to use to store the resultant video in.

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kusznir:

mylo: if you are using them in a myth system, the backend settings, capture cards, should have something there to specify what format its using for that card. Myth also supports transcoding from one format to another; some people set up their myth system to record in a large-but-cpu-nonintensive format initially and trancdode them automatically later to something more compact.

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mylo:

kusznir, okay, thanks

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kusznir:

mylo: np.

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mylo:

what are the average storage mythtvusers have ?

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kusznir:

It varies widely; my smaller system has 100GB, my larger 350GB. Several mth users posting on mailing lists have had 1+ TB with raid arrays and such.

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gr00ve:

that would be really hard to say with any authority. i've got a 400gig video drive, and i think that's probably more than more people. i'm doing standard definition, so frankly it stores so much video i could never really watch it all unless it's all i did with myself

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gr00ve:

if i had hdtv i think 400gb might be more average

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kusznir:

gr00ve: In the process of listing the directory and moving one file, it seems all my .nuv's are present and accounted for.....I didn't have to delete anything from the db.

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gr00ve:

oh that's cool – is the frontend working now?

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kusznir:

don't know; wife is watching it. (watching worked, deleting crashed it previously)

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gr00ve:

so great to be able to shell right into the thing while it's running

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kusznir:

I found one .nuv that did not have a db entry.

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kusznir:

Yea, I love that. One of these days I'm going to figure out why mythfrontend doesn't like my workstation; then I can watch tv and test things myself :)

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gr00ve:

i'm guessing that's fixed in a more recent build. i don't know what knopmyth has for packages, but .19 is out as of recently, and i think it's improved a good deal over .18

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kusznir:

There is still something wierd going on....I just updatedb and then did a locate on .nuv (after the update was finished), and it only shows 8 .nuv's, not the 27 there actually are.....

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kusznir:

All the permissions look good...

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kusznir:

knoppmyth has access to myth packages, but last time I did the apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, I broke my system in strange ways...after 2 days, I gave up and re-installed. I'm norally really good at linux stuff, but debian-based distros just do things so differently than I'm used to that I have a real hard time fixing them....

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kusznir:

The authors are working on a new build, but having some difficulty integrating their various add-on packages for myth, and are holding the new release until they fix that.

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gr00ve:

yeah i run gentoo, but i know what you mean. i think you can apt-get just the new myth package when it comes out

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gr00ve:

there's always a flag to do a dry run, basically telling you what dependencies it might install or upgrade, and you can either go for it or deem it too risky. i don't know that i'd upgrade anything other than myth, if it's stable now...

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gr00ve:

gentoo's definitely the same sort of affair – if you emerge sync and then emerge -u world, it can hose everything if you're not careful

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mylo:

kusznir, gr00ve thanks for the storage averages

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gr00ve:

you're welcome

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kusznir:

Yea, but I can fix gentoo :) (gentoo actually is normally my prefered linux)

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kusznir:

I just got back from "fixing myth" again (it went dumb on my wife). I think the backend lost its head (I heard continous hard drive clacking, and the front end was uanble to find any recordings).

[08:05:48]

kusznir:

It seemed to be logging tons of "waiting for a thread.." messages

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kusznir:

However, we were sucessfully able to delete myth recordings again (the origional problem I was trying to address)

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pjn:

I'm using ubuntu (breezy) with the mythtv 0.19 packages from thehunter.ws. I get an error when I attempt to load mythbackend after the first time it loads (loading works the first time, if you shut it down it won't work until after the next reboot) I've got the mythbackend.log up at http://www.panic.id.au/mytherror.txt can anybody shed some light?

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phar0e:

Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES)

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phar0e:

I bet that is causing your problems pjn

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pjn:

yup, but it works fine the first time it loads after boot

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pjn:

the password is correct, I can log in as mythtv with that password on the command line

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phar0e:

hmm

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phar0e:

what version of QT & MySql?

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pjn:

(that is for mysql)

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pjn:

mysql Ver 12.22 Distrib 4.0.24, for pc-linux-gnu (i486)

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pjn:

lemme check about qt

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pjn:

sorry, stupid mother in law just called up

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pjn:

Source: qt-x11-freeVersion: 3:3.3.4–8ubuntu5

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phar0e:

is your mother in law upset 'neighbours' isn't getting recorded?

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linagee:

how do you turn off commercial flagging from the CLI? is there a way to tinker with mysqlconverg?

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pjn:

I've rebooted it to record the news and the simpsons, mother in law doesn't get a look in

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pjn:

(apparently she likes home & away anyway)

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pjn:

I noticed on the console just before the last reboot (after it exited X) the following error message "opendir() failed – No such file or directory"

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phar0e:

what about your mysql users for the mythconverg database, do you have just 1?

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pjn:

just one

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phar0e:

not sure about that no such file or dir error msg..

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phar0e:

but I have two mythtv users setup in mysql, one with localhost as host and the other as % for any host

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phar0e:

I had problems where it was saying denied even though everything was proper

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phar0e:

you may want to try that

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pjn:

I'll investigate that, be back soon

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pjn:

there was a second user, password was the same though

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pjn:

phar0e: that seems to have fixed it (I would have sworn there was only one user)

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phar0e:

yeah not sure if it's the right way of fixing it, but it worked for me :)

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pjn:

only one thing to sort out now

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kali__:

Hi, I've upgrade to mythtv 0.19 and am now able to get the Captions on the PVR 250 card on my system.

[09:02:33]

kali__:

Is there a way to extract or export the captions to another file ?

[09:03:12]

kali__:

I wanted to export the recorded show to another formate like divx or another format and also export the captions

[09:05:44]

pjn:

setup/tv settings/general/time to record before start or after end of show

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pjn:

I've got two tuners, but if the shows follow each other in the guide it will stop the first recording early rather than moving to the second tuner

[09:06:51]

pjn:

any ideas on how to get it to always use both tuners if possible?

[09:07:19]

pjn:

if nothing is recording straight after it records after the end of the show to the specified value

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kali__:

Are both the tuners set to the same recording priority ?

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pjn:

yes

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pjn:

oops, he has gone

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pjn:

phar0e: that mysqld thing wasn't the solution, the correct solution is on http://www.wlug.org.nz/MythTvNotes

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pjn:

phar0e: that's to the not starting thing

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pjn:

Mythbackend wont start from the init script

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pjn:

I have found this problem under ubuntu hoary, apparently the start-stop-daemon runs the backend as myth but doesn't use myth's envioronment settings (not sure if this is what it's meant to do or not). adding HOME=/home/mythtv to the top of the init script appears to solve this problem.

[09:41:30]

eiggirC:

I'm pissed off.

[09:41:33]

eiggirC:

really annoyed

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eiggirC:

Why the hell can't I fast forward live TV?

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eiggirC:

:-)

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sona:

You need Windows Vista to do that :)

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hydroksyde:

erm... there is directx support in mythtv?

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hydroksyde:

does it work?

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dasOp:

what?

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hydroksyde:

./configure --enable-directx

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hydroksyde:

./configure --help

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hydroksyde:

...

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hydroksyde:

--enable-directx enable DirectX (Microsoft video)

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dasOp:

and considering that you are using a command line interpreter that forces you to prepend configure with ./, what are the chances that your machine has DirectX?

[09:59:18]

dasOp:

I'd love a win native frontend but I'm guessing that will be a while :P

[09:59:27]

hydroksyde:

dasOp, yes

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hydroksyde:

but i have a windows box here

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hydroksyde:

well

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hydroksyde:

i will on friday

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dasOp:

in the mean time, the directshow filter works fine for me

[10:03:15]

Hoxzer:

Do u guys know how can i delete all channels in the db

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dasOp:

delete from channel;

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possie:

hi

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possie:

anyone using dvb-c card with some sort of Smart Card to receive paytv ?

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hydroksyde:

./configure should build with LIRC right?

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hydroksyde:

assuming lirc is present

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tfm:

--enable-lirc

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hydroksyde:

yes

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hydroksyde:

i did that

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hydroksyde:

# Input Support

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hydroksyde:

Joystick menu yes

[11:00:51]

hydroksyde:

lirc support yes

[11:04:38]

hydroksyde:

i can't get my hauppage gray remote to work

[11:04:48]

hydroksyde:

it works in irw

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hydroksyde:

and i've compiled mythtv with lirc support

[11:05:14]

hydroksyde:

and i have the appropriate ~/.mythtv/lircrc

[11:05:21]

hydroksyde:

but it still wont work

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Hoxzer:

Do u guys know how can i delete all channels in the db somehow?

[11:10:03]

Kelerion:

Hoxzer, dasOp just told you

[11:10:31]

Juski:

mornin

[11:10:35]

Kelerion:

mornin :)

[11:11:32]

Kelerion:

am looking at laptops.. I need to upgrade mine

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Juski:

heh

[11:12:19]

Juski:

I need to reboot to install a DVD burner

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Juski:

brb

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Hoxzer:

Kelerion: after that I can just rescan for channels?

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Hoxzer:

J

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Kelerion:

Hoxzer, don't see why not

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Hoxzer:

Kelerion: after that I can just rescan for channels?

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Kelerion:

I heard you the first time!

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Hoxzer:

Ok i just thought if it would req some kind oe

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Hoxzer:

Db editing

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Hoxzer:

Aaargh cant remember my box ip

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stuarta:

morning juski

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Juski:

morning stuarta

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Juski:

oo didn't realise there were freeware dvd writing programs for window$

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Juski:

good thing there are too – IT lost all their nero cds

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phar0e:

I just ordered new hardware for a frontend ><

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phar0e:

I am joining the unichrome team!

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greg__:

cool

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greg__:

what board did you order?

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greg__:

i've a sp13000 with openchrome and it's lovely

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phar0e:

let me look what I got

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phar0e:

ASUS P4V8X-MX Socket 478 VIA P4M800 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

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phar0e:

it's onboard the mobo, so quiet! I am trying to build a silent machine

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greg__:

http://www.genius-pc.com/pro_01.html

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greg__:

i saw that mentioned in the users list earlier

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** Juski can't hear his M10k oard when it's switched on **

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greg__:

i'm going to replace my tiny itx case with ti

[11:39:28]

greg__:

i replaced the 25db sp13000 fans with 14db ones Juski on and they still annoy me

[11:39:36]

greg__:

going for a fanless case with heatsinks now

[11:40:13]

phar0e:

which distro do you two run?

[11:40:16]

Juski:

I don't have the '25dB' fan on my CPU anymore. it was too loud. 25db my EYE

[11:40:20]

Juski:

minimyth here

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phar0e:

I want to shake things up and try something new for this frontend

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greg__:

i just ubuntu drapper drake

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greg__:

use even

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greg__:

bah, i'm listening to my colleague and typing at the same time. words get rearranged in my head :)

[11:41:09]

possie:

toobad drapper drake still uses mythtv 0.18

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greg__:

thats a plus for me

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greg__:

i recompiled it myself anyway so i could get .19

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possie:

ah okee :-)

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greg__:

i want the livetv ringbuffer so i can ramdisk it

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greg__:

can't do that with .19 currently

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phar0e:

I would imagine using those myth specific distros wouldn't allow for much customization?

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possie:

why do you need a ramdisk for it?

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greg__:

so the harddisk is quieter/cooler

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greg__:

i don't need, i want ;)

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greg__:

there's nothing in .19 i'd rather have than that, so sticking .18 for the moment

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possie:

but eventually it will need to write it to disk right?

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greg__:

nope, it's a ringbuffer

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possie:

ahh okee, and how big is this ringbuffer?

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greg__:

it'll only right to hd for proper recordings, not live tv

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greg__:

650 meg, which is about 15 minutes for my settings

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possie:

that should be enough i guess :-)

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possie:

what kind of video input signal do you use greg?

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greg__:

just s-video, it's onboard on the via

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greg__:

oh input, sd sorry

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possie:

yeah :-)

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greg__:

don't have HD in ireland yet

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possie:

so you use analog signal

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greg__:

yep, with a pvr-500

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possie:

i want to start using a dvb-c card

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greg__:

seems to be the way of the future :)

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possie:

but i'm wondering how i could fix the "smartcard"/"paytv" issue

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greg__:

hmm, i don't know. your best bet is to send a mail to the list. somebody who knows how/if it can be down should see it

[11:45:36]

greg__:

in here you're dependant on luck that they're reading currently

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phar0e:

oh shit, I forgot this onboard video doesn't have svideo out, would using a VGA to Svideo adapter be suitable? or is there something terribly wrong with that?

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stuarta:

possie: define the 'issue'

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greg__:

no idea phar0e. i know a lot of those conversions need hardware dongles. can you get one for vga to svideo and how expensive :)

[11:47:34]

greg__:

do you have room for something like a geforce with tv out?

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stuarta:

phar0e: you can get vga->hdmi cables

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greg__:

yeah but if he's saying s-video i doubt he has that posh a tcv

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greg__:

tv

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phar0e:

well I may be building another one then I'll get the hdmi cables for my HDTV, but this frontend is for an analog tv thats best option is svideo

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pjn:

is it worth upgrading from composite in to component in with a widescreen crt?

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Juski:

crashy crashy

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phar0e:

haha

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dasOp:

depends on how good the crt is. generally, "yes"

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pjn:

it is a nice 76cm widescreen thing

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pjn:

so I guess the answer is yes

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pjn:

I'd like to be able to test it before I spent my hard earned cash on a new video card

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pjn:

:(

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dasOp:

what kind of vid card gives component out?

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pjn:

well my local computer shop has a geforce 6200 which comes with component out cables

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Juski:

all cards will give RGB out, and you can easily convert RGB to component

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pjn:

and apparently all of the radeons past a certain number give native component out with a cable

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phar0e:

I think I'm going to go with Debian, seems like the 2nd best.

[11:56:42]

dasOp:

yeah thats what I wondered if its easily taken from the vga cable

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Juski:

ah but radeons are hitty-missy in linux

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pjn:

yeah, but the geforce 6200 is fanless, works fine in linux and comes with component cables if you buy from the right manufacturer

[11:57:48]

Juski:

so how do you tell it to output component signals?

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pjn:

look for hdtv in the video card blurb

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pjn:

dunno yet! :)

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dasOp:

yeah.. I'm a lil behind when it comes to vid cards but I dont remember seeing a specific component out

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Kelerion:

what did xris do to nuvexport? am converting at over 40fps!

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dasOp:

but with a decent tv you should see a difference between composite and svideo as well

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pjn:

yeah, I can see a difference between those two

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pjn:

but my geforce 5200 only has composite out :(

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dasOp:

generally, composite < svideo < component

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Juski:

composite < svideo < RGB / Component < SDI < DVI/HDMI ;)

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stuarta:

what are ch5 doing? they've scheduled 2 episodes of voyager per afternoon @130pm

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dasOp:

juski: and how common is sdi outside of studios and the like? :)

[12:03:22]

Juski:

stuarta: no idea

[12:03:39]

Juski:

das0p: it might become a lot more common soon ;-)

[12:04:29]

dasOp:

yeah

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Juski:

I think I've seen SDI on some high-end home theatre kit anyway

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stuarta:

good thing myth was invented...

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dasOp:

we use sdi to interface our smaller editing stations with the main control room

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dasOp:

it doesnt compare to anything below it, being a transport protocol

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Juski:

I think I might have every episode of mythbusters ever made before too long

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dasOp:

I do :P

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Kelerion:

amazing how overclockers.co.uk make any money... 10 mins in a queue so far to speak to anyone in sales!

[12:06:27]

stuarta:

kelerion: just order online.

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Kelerion:

I don't wanna buy anything yet.. lol

[12:07:11]

braniff:

heh...maybe they are smarter than you think...

[12:07:12]

Kelerion:

If I can't fix my psu.. I want to know if they sell replacements

[12:07:54]

Juski:

kelerion: which silverstone case is it?

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Kelerion:

can't remember the model off the top of my head.. I can't find it on silverstones site

[12:08:32]

Juski:

http://linitx.com/index.php?cPath=24_75

[12:09:16]

braniff:

what other good tech-blogs are there besides Slashdot ?

[12:09:32]

dasOp:

oxymoron alert!

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Juski:

good, slashdot?

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Juski:

bah

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** braniff likes slashdot **

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Juski:

somebody must like it

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dasOp:

I like slashdot. that doesnt mean I consider it good :P

[12:10:16]

Juski:

I find the flame wars hilarious

[12:11:11]

Kelerion:

bloody hell.. 85 quid for a psu? thats just daft

[12:11:34]

braniff:

blimey

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Kelerion:

I only paid 70 for the case with it.. lol

[12:12:49]

Juski:

Kelerion: look at www.fsp.co.ukwww.fsp.co.uk

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Juski:

www.fsp.co.uk

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Juski:

bah

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Juski:

http://www.fspgroup.co.uk/u.k/02_newproducts/newproducts.htm

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Kelerion:

ahh,,, thats the name you mentioned yesterday... was trying to remember it's name earlier

[12:13:23]

Juski:

find a suitable model then ring em to ask where to buy one

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braniff:

i saw a one-kilowatt psu the other day somewhere on the net for about $400 US

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Juski:

their 1U PSUs are superb

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Juski:

very quiet too

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Kelerion:

thanks for the links Juski ... will get the 40 quid one from linitx

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Juski:

how old is the case anyway? could you RMA it?

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Kelerion:

just over 12 months

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Kelerion:

it's not worth RMA's really just for a psu

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Juski:

just over 12 months old & it failed.. hmmm

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** Juski strokes his chin **

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Kelerion:

I was thinking the same.. lol

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Jasper^off:

morning

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braniff:

hello

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Juski:

morning JasperXP

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Jasper^off:

:P

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Juski:

been looking into getting some mythtvtalk.com / mythtv case badges made.. they're like £.50 each. I think computer shops charge more than that for off-the-shelf ones

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[Jasper]:

hmm someone nicked my nick

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[Jasper]:

:(

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phar0e:

hey unichrome users, if the chipset isn't a PRO that means anything above 1024x768 won't be as good?

[12:33:42]

Juski:

phar0e: I think so

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Hoxzer:

Hmmm

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Hoxzer:

I neen remeber the ip of my box

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braniff:

ifconfig

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Juski:

all well & good if you're logged into it :-P

[12:39:55]

braniff:

also can use nmap to scan for it on your LAN heh

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Hoxzer:

Brani: im not@home

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Juski:

oh well. someone will be doing work today instead of messing with mythtv then

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phoner:

anyone have thoughts on pci encoder cards that don't get very hot during use?

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phoner:

I got major heat problems

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[Jasper]:

JasperXP sounds lame btw Juski

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[Jasper]:

8)

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Juski:

phoner: got major heat problems? get a better designed case ;)

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Juski:

or move to external tuners

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Juski:

the idea of a slim, set top box like, all in one PVR based on a PC is very difficult to achieve

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phoner:

I'm trying to do all passive heat, no fans, that's hard

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Juski:

without heatpipes it is

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phoner:

the real prob is dvr-250, could cook an egg on it

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Juski:

grrr biggest keywords accessing my site.,.. 'mythtv SKIN'

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Juski:

phoner: pvr150 cards run pretty cool

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phoner:

are they much diff than the 250?

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Juski:

phoner: yup

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Juski:

or rather, yes and no

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phoner:

hm

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Juski:

the video decoder is integrated into the mpeg2 encoder chip on the pvr150

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Juski:

whereas on the pvr250 they're seperate chips

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phoner:

decoder?

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Juski:

yes DECODER

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Juski:

it decodes analogue video into digital

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phoner:

it has tv out?

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Juski:

decoder == digitiser

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Juski:

video decoder is what digitises the video

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phoner:

ok

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Juski:

pvr 350's MPEG2 decoder amd TV ENCODER is what gives you TV out

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phoner:

maybe I can find BTU stats on these cards

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dasOp:

uh what?

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dasOp:

you playing with this poor guys mind?

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phoner:

it's ok, I can't read

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Juski:

das0p: that's what the ICs that digitise video are called.. decoders – if that confuses anyone it's not my fault ;-)

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Juski:

phoner: power consumption figures are very rarely specified for PCI cards

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Juski:

I think the PCI spec has limits and every card must adhere to them – other than that they can do what they like

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phoner:

but the actual harware mpeg chip, isn't that considered an encoder?

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Juski:

phoner: yes it is

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phoner:

k, that's what I was thinkin

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Juski:

all you really need to know about the pv150 is that the video digitiser & mpeg encoder are both on a single chip

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dasOp:

juski: I know its not your fault. but you're still screwing with the poor guys mind :)

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Juski:

as opposed to the pvr250 which has a chip for each function

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Juski:

das0p: a guy's got to have fun sometimes

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Juski:

(kidding)

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phoner:

ok, I may try it. Looks like there are two differant DVR-250 mpeg chips in use

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dasOp:

agreed :P

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Juski:

maybe I'll do a wiki page explaining it better one day

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phoner:

maybe I have this older one that gets warmer

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Juski:

phoner: the very first ones had heatsinks on them I believe

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[Jasper]:

hmm or you just make everything water cooled..

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[Jasper]:

lay some water lines to your tv and stuff

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[Jasper]:

:P

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Juski:

there are a few ways to get around the heat & noise problem

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Juski:

all well (and not so well) documented

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[Jasper]:

1. don't put your pc at your tv..

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[Jasper]:

:P

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Juski:

yup

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[Jasper]:

prolly the best one

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[Jasper]:

I guess

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Juski:

2. have a lightweight frontend & do all the recording/storage remotely

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Juski:

etc

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stuarta:

the e4 monkeys have finally hit the correct keys!!

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phoner:

I should store the pvr outside on the roof

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stuarta:

use it to heat the hot water?

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

circulate the "water" from the watercooling system in your computer through a heat exchanger for the house?

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phoner:

it's 20F out

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

and you think the electronics will like to be frozen? :)

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phoner:

it would probably cancel out to make it room temperature

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Beirdo:

glad it's you thinking of testing the theory, not me :)

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Beirdo:

of course, you could be right

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sphing:

Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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sphing:

anyone know about that when running mythbackend as root

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Beirdo:

who are you running X as?

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sphing:

ahh

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sphing:

.. not root

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Beirdo:

and the backend??

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sphing:

as root..

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Beirdo:

hmmm, the backend shouldn't really need X authentication, likely not that

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sphing:

but doesnt it matter, its the backend, shouldn't be talking to X

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stuarta:

and in ~root/.mythtv/mysql.txt ?

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sphing:

correct

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Beirdo:

so yeah, if that's the backend, more likely the mysql.txt issue

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sphing:

thats what I thought, so I transfered .mythtv from regular user to root, chown'ed it

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sphing:

and tried again... no dice

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sphing:

any other ideas?

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Beirdo:

not right now, sorry

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stuarta:

try export XAUTHORITY=/home/sphing/.Xauthority

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stuarta:

and export DISPLAY=:0.0

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Juski:

stuarta: you mean they finally got the e4+1 EPG right?

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stuarta:

yep.

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sphing:

stuarta: this is the backend, you think X authority matters?

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Juski:

btw the other day when you asked did you mean EIT or RT?

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stuarta:

although it hasn't propagated to the other mplexes yet.

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stuarta:

sphing: it shouldn't, but we are trying things...

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sphing:

nope didnt work

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sphing:

both of them

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stuarta:

juski: EIT, RT was obviously correct :)

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stuarta:

sphing, you need both

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sphing:

sorry about that... didnt want to be that guy that questions people trying to help

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sphing:

stuarta: yes i set both

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** stuarta looks in the ideas bucket and finds it empty **

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sphing:

yea, I mean its not earth shatteringly important, I just can't start the backend from init scripts

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stuarta:

I have a mythtv user, and make the init script change to that user to start the backend

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sphing:

stuarta ... thats the plan, thanks

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stuarta:

well just write the init script to do just that :)

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stuarta:

su – mythtv -C "backend command" should do the trick

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sphing:

gentoo has start-stop-daemon with a user flag...

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sphing:

so i just changed that

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stuarta:

same as debian

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sphing:

we'll see if it worked... its just my commflagger, so its not crucial

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Beirdo:

oh now that's cool

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Beirdo:

some of my sites are catching site-targeted google ads :)

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Beirdo:

you get paid per impression, not per-click on them

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Beirdo:

too bad it ain't the mythtv ones

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Beirdo:

as they get a LOT more impressions

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stuarta:

pah, sourceforges mysql server has died... :(

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Beirdo:

sourceforge likes to overload itself and fall over

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sphing:

lol...

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sphing:

its enjoys it Beirdo?

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Beirdo:

it seems to :)

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Baylink:

SO, screen is real cool...

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Beirdo:

it sure is

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stuarta:

why is there a category & category_type in mythconverg.program ?

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bjohnson:

has anyone ever figured out how to use transcode?

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bjohnson:

it's still a complete mystery to me

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Juski:

I think this pc has been more down than up today

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Beirdo:

must run Windoze

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bjohnson:

I have a couple of files that will run in mplayer but I jast can't find anything that will convert them

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Juski:

yeh Beirdo. my machine crashes when I play video files, no matter what format they are :-/

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Beirdo:

if mplayer will play em, mencoder should be able to convert them

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Beirdo:

as it's mplayer

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bjohnson:

yeah .. downloading it now

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bjohnson:

thought mplayer could be used with transcode .. but seems to be black magic

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Juski:

VLC can do that I think

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greg__:

vlc has good transcoding supprot

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greg__:

for mpeg2 and mpeg4 at least, i haven't used any other

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greg__:

it has a tonne of input/output plugins tho

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bjohnson:

vlc won't autosense and play them correctly

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bjohnson:

these files anyway

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bjohnson:

severe pixelation

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bjohnson:

mplayer does well with Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b

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[Jasper]:

anyone in here know something about assembly maybe?

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Beirdo:

maybe

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sphing:

Jasper x86 assembly?

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[Jasper]:

yea

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sphing:

sorry... motorola assembly here

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[Jasper]:

:(

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Juski:

6800 & Z80 here

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[Jasper]:

MOV BYTE PTR [DI-02],0FH I don't see the error in that

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Beirdo:

x86 (ick), PowerPC, 68HC11, 68k, 8051, etc

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Juski:

hack the assembler to let you, [Jasper] ;-)

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[Jasper]:

ah Beirdo then you must be able to help out

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sphing:

HC12 for me.. same thing

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Beirdo:

been a LONG time since I subjected myself to x86 shittiness

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greg__:

bjohnson, theres 2 different mpeg2 decoders in vlc, ffmpeg and the otehr one i can't remember, libmpeg2 i think

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greg__:

you could try the other one as well

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Juski:

try in #write_yer_own_OS

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[Jasper]:

hmm starting to think it's this compiler

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Beirdo:

dunno, [Jasper]. I'd have to refresh my brain with it, and I'm sure that would take a while

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Beirdo:

it's likely the assembler giving you issues

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[Jasper]:

yeah I'm gonna upgrade

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[Jasper]:

was using nasm

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[Jasper]:

hmm removing ptr fixed it I guess

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bjohnson:

any tips on using the text messages from mplayer to set up mencoder?

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bjohnson:

using -ovc lavc says FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.

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Beirdo:

bjohnson: sorry, dunno, it's all black magic, will take a few iterations to get right

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bio_:

does mythtv need glx support for anything?

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bjohnson:

I guess one of my problems has been that mencoder won't do 29.97 fps

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dtm:

bjohnson: haaaaaa of course it will. it'll do absolutely anything the specs allow and then some; they're just variables. what makes you say that.

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bjohnson:

it gives errors

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bjohnson:

and I found posts that said so

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dtm:

bjohnson: paste your whole command plz

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bjohnson:

mencoder Dog_Soldiers_-_28_01_06b.ts -of mpeg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -oac copy -fps 25 -o Dog_Soldiers_-_28_01_06b.ts.mpg

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bjohnson:

without the -fps it gave an error

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bjohnson:

setting -fps 29.97 gives the same error

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bjohnson:

[mpeg2video @ 0x860d990]MPEG1/2 doesnt support 2997/100 fps

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bjohnson:

Could not open codec.

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bjohnson:

FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.

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Beirdo:

try 30000/1001

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bjohnson:

that runs

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dtm:

bjohnson: yeah it's not mencoder's fault; it's the spec

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Beirdo:

well, mencoder should realize that when people say 29.97, they mean 30000/1001 which is the precise rate

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dtm:

Beirdo: of course it can't assume that. it has to assume that you know what you want. other specs would allow exactly 29.97.

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Beirdo:

meh

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bjohnson:

they could make it a little more obvious in the docs

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bjohnson:

and man pages

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Beirdo:

29.97 is only ever used for NTSC, and it's close enough :)

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dtm:

bjohnson: it was entirely screamingly obvious right there in the stderr.

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bjohnson:

yep ..

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dtm:

it said the exact truth.

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bjohnson:

doesn;t work with 29.97

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bjohnson:

and that's what I wanted

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dtm:

Beirdo: i'm sure you know that's ridiculous :)

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Beirdo:

calculate 30000/1001 :) that's the actual NTSC rate :)

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dtm:

bjohnson: no, that's not what you wanted; you wanted 30000/1001 :)

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bjohnson:

none of the info progs that I used ever said 30000/1001

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Beirdo:

29.97002997 (repeat ad nauseum)

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bjohnson:

they all said 29.97

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Beirdo:

yeah, everyone rounds it

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dtm:

bjohnson: yeah it's a common falsehood like pi

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Juski:

time to reboot one last time today :-/

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Beirdo:

mencoder should be smart enough to have a special case

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dtm:

if you had a long enough video such as a stream, it'd be wrong

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dtm:

Beirdo: no, the operator should. any other behavior from mencoder would be entirely wrong.

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Beirdo:

bah

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Beirdo:

when you say 29.97 for MPEG, it's blatently obvious what you mean

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dtm:

Beirdo: maybe you would need to encode at literally 29.97 in order to be compatible with someone else's mistake somehow. in what universe do you think you can ask a unix app to be intentionally imprecise and violate a professional spec?

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dtm:

no, it's not.

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dtm:

30001/1001 would be blatantly obvious.

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Beirdo:

as MPEG only allows the exact rate, and doesn't support it at PRECISELY 29.97, it's obvious the user wants the exact rate

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Beirdo:

jeez

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dtm:

rm -rf / <-- that should be blatantly obvious that you dont wanna do that either, huh?

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Beirdo:

print a warning and carry on

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dtm:

the warning should say "maybe you mean 30001/1001" and you can file a bug report to that effect

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Beirdo:

I can file a bug report saying whatever I want, thanks for the permission

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Beirdo:

but I won't

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dtm:

oooOOOOOoooo... SASSY!!

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dtm:

*snap* you go, girlfriend!

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dtm:

show that spec who's boss!!

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Juski:

uhhh

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coffee88:

Does anyone have, or know of, a script to give descriptive links that deals with both old and new format myth file names?

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Juski:

coffee88: what about mythname ?

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Juski:

or is it mythrename? hang on

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coffee88:

I'll check it out. I was using mythlink, but the upgrade broke it....

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Juski:

mythrename – it lives in the contrib directory

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Juski:

use it thusly:

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Juski:

./mythrename --link /foo/foobar

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Juski:

& it makes links to files in the recordings folder to /foo/foobar

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coffee88:

Hmmm. Errrr.. Does gentoo put that contrib dir somewhere, or do I need to go fetch, do you know?

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Juski:

I fetched it cos I couldn't find it on my gentoo box

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Juski:

works great on 0.19 btw

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coffee88:

Cool. I'll go find... Did you mean above that it puts links in the /foo/foobar dir to the orignal file?

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Juski:

yeh

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L0cutus:

'sera

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Juski:

has very verbose --help option aswell :-)

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coffee88:

Thought so, I just got a bit confused...

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L0cutus:

someone can point me on how to 'populate' my channel list with mythtv ? (i'm Italian) thanks

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coffee88:

Ummm Juski, excuse my ignorance, but is there an easy way to get that from svn without copying and having line numbers anywhere?

[17:29:16]

Juski:

LOcutus: what you need to do very much depends on what kind of tuner card & EPG source you have

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Juski:

coffee88: hang on

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Juski:

coffee88: there's an option at the bottom of the page you're looking at to see the raw file.. clicky ;-)

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coffee88:

DUH! Thanks. Optometrist, here we come...

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** Juski wonders why the scripts aren't included with gentoo ebuilds **

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Juski:

though saying that they don'

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Beirdo:

that's a question for Sir Cardoe... who ain't here right now

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Juski:

it's not a big deal though – took me all of 30 seconds to find what I needed

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sphing:

Juski: they are included

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sphing:

at least i had an init script that i definately didnt make

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Juski:

I tried a find . -iname "mythrename*"

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Juski:

and that returned nada

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coffee88:

google only returns a few links for mythrename – none of them very helpful....

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sphing:

Juski: o.. i thought you meant init scripts...

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L0cutus:

<Juski> LOcutus: what you need to do very much depends on what kind of tuner card & EPG source you have

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Juski:

no just other stuff to be found in the contrib directory

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sphing:

if you have --keepwork in your make options

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L0cutus:

i have an hauppauge winth bt878

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L0cutus:

wintv*

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sphing:

it'll be in /var/tmp/portage/...

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Juski:

sphing: noted ;-)

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Juski:

LOcutus: do you have an xmltv grabber for Italy?

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sphing:

alright getting ready for an interview...

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sphing:

late

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Juski:

ouchio

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Juski:

kiss that one goodbye then

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L0cutus:

Juski: not installed yet

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L0cutus:

did i need it ?

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Juski:

LOcutus: you'll need it to be able to see what's on TV and record shows

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L0cutus:

ok, i go to install it, thanks :)

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Juski:

mythtv doesn't work without a programme guide

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Juski:

hi Cardoe

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Cardoe:

hey Juski

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coffee88:

Superb! that works like a good un. Thanks Juski

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Juski:

Cardoe: I was trying to find the contrib directory the other day so I could play with mythrename & I drew a blank. other than setting --keepwork in my make options is there any way to get it with the ebuilds? (thanks sphing for the suggestion btw)

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kormoc:

Juski, you can just get it from svn

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Juski:

that's what I did in the end – didn't take long.. I was just being inquisitive

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kormoc:

I've been meaning to talk to Cardoe about this very issue actually

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kormoc:

I was considering tring to make a mythtv-contrib ebuild if he didn't think it would be useful for the main ebuild to toss the contribs into /usr/share/mythtv/contribs

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xris:

other distros put the contrib stuff in the docs directory

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** kormoc blinks **

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xris:

I always thought it was a weird place, but at least the files get installed

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kormoc:

that doesn't make much sense to myself

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** kormoc nods **

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kormoc:

I'm all for /usr/share/mythtv/contribs, as that is where I'd look first :P

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xris:

yeah, that'd be a good place

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sphing:

:)

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bio_:

hm, got ati-drivers working and now there is a flickering light-blue overlay over the tv-images in mythtv. anyone ever encountered this problem?

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kormoc:

bio_, in just the previews?

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bio_:

when watchling livetv

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kormoc:

ahh, don't think so

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Syphn:

does anyone see anything wrong with this? --> http://pastebin.com/589214 i keep getting "/usr/local/bin/mythvolume.sh: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `else'

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Syphn:

/usr/local/bin/mythvolume.sh: line 7: `else'

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Syphn:

"

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bio_:

should have bought a nvidia card, but vendor didnt have cheap ones on stock :/

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Juski:

I first looked in /usr/share/mythtv I have to admit

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Juski:

bio_: classic mistake, buying stuff they have in stock rather than what you wanted

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Syphn:

silly shell scripts

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coffee88:

Syphn: Nothing betwen the then and the else? (I am not an expert!)

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Syphn:

coffee88: nope i've uncommented and get the same thing ...

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Syphn:

differnet line number ..

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Syphn:

same else

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Juski:

I think there should be stuff between the if & the else too

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bio_:

juski: yeah, but wanted that the box working asak

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bio_:

asap

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Syphn:

Juski | coffee88 --> http://pastebin.com/589221

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Syphn:

i get:

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Juski:

bio_: if you end up buying hardware that's not suited to you, it'

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Syphn:

/usr/local/bin/mythvolume.sh: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token `else'

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Syphn:

/usr/local/bin/mythvolume.sh: line 6: `else'

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Syphn:

it doesn't like the else for some reason

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bio_:

well, i can turn it in against an nvidia anyway, thats what i asked before i took it

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Juski:

anyway it'

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Juski:

bah

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Juski:

stupid keyboard

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Juski:

time to go home

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Juski:

laters, all

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Syphn:

dam

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Cardoe:

kormoc: we can do something like that

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kormoc:

Cardoe, coolness :)

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Cardoe:

just remind me when I make the next ebuild

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** kormoc nods **

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coffee88:

Syphn: Try dropping the then to the next line?

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coffee88:

Syphn: http://pastebin.com/589243 was the format I was told....

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xris:

Beirdo: I see you put ads up on the log page. :)

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Beirdo:

yup

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xris:

I clicked one for you. heh

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kormoc:

Mmm... Free memory

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Beirdo:

heh, thanks

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xris:

kormoc: huh?

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kormoc:

xris, rebooted cause ati's driver leaked memory, filled up my swap

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atom_jack:

Ahh I need some more ivtv help. I originally installed it with yum but I wasn't able to get any sound, so i uninstalled it and then compiled it myself. But now, I cannot change the channel – mythtv does't do it, ivtv-tune doesn't do it, and ptune-ui.pl doens't do it. It just alwyas stays at channel 4.

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atom_jack:

oh wow i guess i just needed to do a cold boot

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atom_jack:

wooh

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Merlin83b:

Hi folks.

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Merlin83b:

You around, GreyFoxx?

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_4ever_:

hello

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tfm:

atom_jack: you installed from fc4 ?

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tfm:

atom_jack: oeps, yum --> fc --> atrpms ?

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_4ever_:

anybody can help me?

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_4ever_:

somebody here?

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Beirdo:

/whois somebody

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Beirdo:

nope, he ain't here

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_4ever_:

:>

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_4ever_:

really funny :)

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Beirdo:

and neither is anybody

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Beirdo:

what's your question?

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Merlin83b:

Hi Beirdo.

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Beirdo:

maybe one of the rest of us can help :)

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Beirdo:

heya, Merlin83b

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Merlin83b:

Did something big change while I was away?

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Beirdo:

hmm?

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Beirdo:

the bot was replaced..

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Merlin83b:

SVN updated, choosing from the menu options is now mad slow and the EIT patches don't apply and backend is way high CPU :<

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roger55:

Has anyone successfully set up mythtv 0.19 with a dvb-s card? I get frequency out of range errors and/or diseq errors.

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Beirdo:

no idea for EIT stuff

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: so, I try to run mythtv... after few days of configuration I try to just watch TV. but in the backend window I get following errors: DIOCSYNC:" input/output errors

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_4ever_:

what did I wrong??

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Beirdo:

hmm

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Merlin83b:

Yeah, that's why I asked for GreyFoxx :-)

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Beirdo:

maybe setup the wrong type of card, _4ever_?

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kormoc:

Merlin83b, opengl is the default rendering for the menus in svn now I beleive

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_4ever_:

something about bttv errors (I dont have bttv card but saa7134

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Merlin83b:

Oh, now that might be worth disabling.

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Merlin83b:

kormoc: Any idea if it's a compile time choice or a runtime choice?

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: hmmm the module is saa7134 tvtime works well... just mythtv is complaining. however I didnt find the exact card setup = just the v4l device

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kormoc:

metusine, there's a runtime choice I do beleive

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Beirdo:

OK, right, it has to be v4l

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Merlin83b:

I'll try and find it, might take a while with the speed this is going!

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: exactelly – this is set that way

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kormoc:

Merlin83b, it's a command line option, not a menu option

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Beirdo:

hmm, not sure what else to suggest. maybe put the errors onto pastebin.ca?

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_4ever_:

ok w8 a minute

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kormoc:

!notice

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MythLogBot:

This channel (#mythtv-users) is logged — http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1

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Merlin83b:

kormoc: Any idea of the option? Not listed in --help

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kormoc:

Merlin83b, it was talked about in the last day or two, if you want to hunt though the channel logs

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: http://pastebin.ca/44801

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Merlin83b:

Okay, thanks I'll go hunting.

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: the lines with VIDIOCSYNC: contains localized Input/Ooutput errors messages :)

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Beirdo:

hmm

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Beirdo:

OK, first off, make sure your start channel is valid

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Beirdo:

it might just not be tuning quite right because of that

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: ah? start channel? (I have to note that) :D

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Beirdo:

line 5 in the paste :)

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: ah

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kormoc:

Merlin83b, check out commit 9261

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_4ever_:

give me a minute I'll check that

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kormoc:

Merlin83b, mythfrontend --override-setting UseOpenGLPainter=0

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Merlin83b:

Thanks kormoc :-)

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kormoc:

np

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: You will call me an idiot but I will ask anyway – where to set the star channel?

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_4ever_:

:%s/star/start/g

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Beirdo:

it's in mythtv-setup

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_4ever_:

:D

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Beirdo:

in the card config, I think

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_4ever_:

ah ok

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_4ever_:

searching...

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Merlin83b:

Awesome. That's got that one sorted, kormoc. Now just for the eit fun ;-)

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kormoc:

coolness, glad I could help :)

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_4ever_:

no

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_4ever_:

not in the card setup

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Beirdo:

it's in one of those pages

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Beirdo:

input settings?

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Beirdo:

I don't remember

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Beirdo:

it's currently set to 3 according to your pastebin

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tfm:

kormoc: you see, that 9261

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tfm:

kormoc: is causing more problems ;)

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Merlin83b:

I'm a bit concerned that the commit calls it a temporary setting. I know a lot of people (me included) will want this always to be disabled.

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kormoc:

tfm, for now :P

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tfm:

kormoc: even xbox is impacted I think

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_4ever_:

exactelly – input setting – I'll check

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kormoc:

Merlin83b, it will be in the future, it was enabled for testing I beleive

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kormoc:

tfm, people that don't want their myth to break shouldn't be running svn :P

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Beirdo:

it should be a frigging ./configure setting in my opinion

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Merlin83b:

So long as it doesn't turn into something that can't be overridden I'll be happy :-)

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Beirdo:

--disable-opengl would be nice

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: what should be the start channel – channel name or channel number??

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Beirdo:

channel number for a channel you have

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xris:

Beirdo: it's not a configure option?

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_4ever_:

ok

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Beirdo:

not by what kormoc just pasted, xris

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Beirdo:

it seems to be a runtime switch

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xris:

that's lame, then

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kormoc:

xris, normally it is, but in current svn, he enabled it by default to force testing

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xris:

kormoc: runtime would be fine if there was /etc/mythtv/mythtv.conf or something

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tfm:

kormoc: I have no problem with it braking ;)

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tfm:

kormoc: its an interesting search

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Beirdo:

I'll be completely and utterly disabling it

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xris:

pity we won't see chutt in here again. heh

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martin_g:

Hi. When I try to watch either live TV or a prerecorded show, I get the message "NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for ..." and the file it's trying to play. I'm using .19 and playing mpg files recorded from a PVR-150 like device, the Win TV PVR 2. I can play those mpg without problems in mplayer. I've read the mailing list and checked that the permissions of the files are correct mythtv:mythtv, world readable. I'm running Ubuntu Breezy

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xris:

martin_g: did it work in .18?

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martin_g:

xris: No. I upgraded to .19 to see if that would fix it.

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xris:

martin_g: so how'd you record them?

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martin_g:

xris: Recording works fine in either. They appear in the recordings directory without issue and the frontend lists them, deletes them, etc..

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martin_g:

xris: the frontend, however, won't play them. Also the backend issues similar no matching decoder errors when commerical flagging is begun

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xris:

martin_g: odd.. must be a funky kind of mpeg container or something.

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martin_g:

xris: mplayer doesn't indicate anything odd. The mpeg is generated by the same general Hauppauge chip that's used in the PVR-150 and co. It's valid mpeg-2.

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: I don't get it... whatever I put there as start channel (name, number, channel) it's always wrong...

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Beirdo:

you need to restart the backend after those changes, of course

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Beirdo:

I assume you have run mythfilldatabase already?

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: yes – i did it everytime

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xris:

martin_g: hauppauge doesn't make chips.

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_4ever_:

oups shit...

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xris:

it could be a TS or a PS or a PES...

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_4ever_:

ofcourse... not :)

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xris:

frontend should play it fine, though.

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Beirdo:

ahhhh, that could be the issue

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Beirdo:

until you do, there may be NO valid channels as seen by the backend

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martin_g:

xris: Yes, I know that. It's the conextant cx2341x that's used on many of these hauppauge devices.

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xris:

martin_g: no real clue, then... recompile?

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_4ever_:

Beirdo: ok... explain me please what is the sens of existence of the "video-source" for me... I'm from Poland, here is nothing like an service with the channel program... how should I setup this?

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xris:

_4ever_: xmltv doesn't have a poland grabber?

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_4ever_:

xris: nope...

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_4ever_:

or I have no idea about it

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_4ever_:

there is nothning in mythtv to set to poland

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xris:

_4ever_: you may have to find out what other polish users do.

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_4ever_:

xris :D

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_4ever_:

xris: I thinked alread about this

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_4ever_:

but I cannot find any forum here about mythtv... to be honest the only help I find is THAT channel :D

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_4ever_:

ok... I have to re-think all that...

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_4ever_:

I will try to find something about polish xmltv

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_4ever_:

thanks for now Beirdo :)

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_4ever_:

and xris of course :D

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Beirdo:

not a problem

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bio_:

hmm, anyone here that uses tv-out of a nvidia-card to display the picture on television and can tell me, which utility he uses to control the tvout?

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sona:

bio_: atitvout

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bio_:

nvidia ;)

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sona:

or ops

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kormoc:

bio_, I use nvidia tvout

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kormoc:

and I just use xorg.conf

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kormoc:

bio_, what do you need changed?

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bio_:

well, cant seem to get the right configuration

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kormoc:

bio_, ooh?

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bio_:

not the whole picture displayed on the television

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bio_:

or the area where the picture on the monitor is stays blue on tv

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** kormoc raises an eyebrow **

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kormoc:

what card is this?

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bio_:

or the whole picture is distorted

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bio_:

nvidia geforce 4 ti 4800 se

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bio_:

well, it takes the resolution from the desktop, thats 1280x1024

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bio_:

also tried changing ui and tv resolution in the mythfrontend

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bio_:

then he changed the whole x-resolution too

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bio_:

tool im using is nvtv to control the tv out

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kormoc:

bio_, my xorg is http://kormoc.homelinux.org/xorg.conf.nvidia.tvout

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kormoc:

bio_, don't use nvtv

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kormoc:

bio_, download the driver from nvidia's website and use it

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bio_:

yeah, have the driver installed

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bio_:

ok, i' ll try with your xorg.conf

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inful:

Does anybody know if the mythdvd's internal player uses the PVR-350's mpeg2 hw decoder?

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kormoc:

likely

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grant_:

Hey, I have a quick question.. will mythtv record programs if mythfrontend is not running?

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inful:

grant_: yup

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Juski:

thankfully ;)

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grant_:

hmm.. that's not good.. it doesn't seem to be doing that for me :(

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Juski:

so that means mythbackend isn't running properly then

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nuxil:

hmm in callsign under channel editor.. can / should i put the name for the channel there?

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grant_:

Juski: aside from mythbackend.log, is there any other logfile our output that i can use to debug what's going on?

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nuxil:

guys?

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Juski:

grant_: you can try running mythbackend in a terminal window with the various --verbose options

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Juski:

nuxil: simmer down. put whatever you like in there

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nuxil:

Juski i tryed to put the name there., but when i wach tv.. and change the channels it adds a extra – after the name

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grant_:

Juski: thx for the help.. i just bounced mythbackend and it seems to be running great now

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Juski:

grant_: you might wanna keep an eye on it for a while

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nuxil:

minus that is.. after the channel name

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Juski:

nuxil: I leave the callsign field blank, personally

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nuxil:

so you still get the channel name up?

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Juski:

yeh

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Juski:

not that I use live tv much

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nuxil:

i'll try to leqave it blank then

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nuxil:

i use it all the time

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nuxil:

)

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Juski:

live tv is _so_ 20th century, as they say on the mailing list ;-)

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nuxil:

lol

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nuxil:

i dont agree

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nuxil:

anyway i got 1 last Q.. when im in live tv mode and press M.. i get this meny up, its transparant.. how can i change that,, i tryed to change theme.. but no good

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nuxil:

i also tryed to change the osd them .. but that didnt work eighter

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Juski:

erm they're all supposed to be transparent

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Juski:

.. except where they're not transparent

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inful:

grant_: If you have problems with mythbackend going down, take a look at monit (http://www.tildeslash.com/monit/)

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Juski:

nuxil: you can change the QT style in the appearance setup menu – I think that might make a difference

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nuxil:

Juski well i dont like it transparant lol

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nuxil:

oki. i'll try that

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grant_:

inful: well, it wasn't going down per se.. I was just getting a lot of strange errors "Mysql server has gone away", even though mysql was indeed running

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Juski:

proper term would be translucent, since you can't see right through it

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Juski:

;-)

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nuxil:

:) yea

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grant_:

inful: I'll check out monit tho.. seems like a cool app

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nuxil:

Juski that was not so smart.. leaving callsign blank

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nuxil:

i can not change channels :P

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Juski:

none of my channels have callsigns AFAIK

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nuxil:

hu?

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Juski:

woops

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Merlin83b:

Aha, Juski!

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Juski:

they do, and I made them the same as the channel name

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nuxil:

lol

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Juski:

omg Merlin83b: how are ya? long time no see

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nuxil:

ok,, time to reedit

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Merlin83b:

Any idea if there's a replacement for the EIT patch around?

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Merlin83b:

Yeah, I'm good – was off skiing in France :-)

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Juski:

Merlin83b: what? apart from the complete re-write that's going on you mean?

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Merlin83b:

Yeah, something that would apply now :-)

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Merlin83b:

My box is currently unuseable, but I'm not sure if that's because I SVNed up or if it's because of some hardware issue.

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Juski:

check the commits I reckon. I saw something a few days ago about most dvb stuff being borked

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Merlin83b:

Oh, poo.

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Juski:

!help

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MythLogBot:

Use "help" followed by a bot command. For a list of bot commands, use "list"

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Juski:

!list

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MythLogBot:

help, list, notice, search, seen, trout

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Juski:

!seen stuarta

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MythLogBot:

stuarta is here and has been idle for 32 minutes 49 seconds

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stuarta:

oy!!!!

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stuarta:

!trout Juski

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** MythLogBot slaps Juski with a trout on behalf of stuarta... **

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Juski:

ouch

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stuarta:

:)

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** Juski deserved that **

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Juski:

(maybe)

[20:30:07]

Merlin83b:

Hmm, wonder if 0.19-fixes would be better.

[20:30:08]

Beirdo:

hehe

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stuarta:

or not...

[20:31:03]

Juski:

anyway like I said, check the usual places for titbits, or just ask the peeps involved ;-)

[20:31:05]

Beirdo:

I should get the search implemented now that we have a working web frontend :)

[20:31:32]

xris:

Beirdo: search *is* implemented.. just needs a form in the html. heh

[20:31:43]

Beirdo:

I mean from the BOT side :)

[20:31:46]

xris:

oh

[20:31:47]

Beirdo:

the !search command

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xris:

heh

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xris:

now chutt would be happy to know that THAT should go via privmsg

[20:32:17]

Beirdo:

it will use the same SQL, and return the URLs to the top... 5 or so matches

[20:32:34]

Beirdo:

yeah, I have no problems with returning that by privmsg

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xris:

it should also return a URL to the full search results

[20:32:50]

Beirdo:

I may actually make it only work by privmsg

[20:33:01]

Beirdo:

like: !search #mythtv-users blah blah

[20:33:17]

Beirdo:

except it wouldn't need the !

[20:33:37]

Beirdo:

have to think about it

[20:34:40]

Beirdo:

actually may slightly redo ALL of the commands that are channel specific (like seen) to follow that general methodology

[20:34:47]

Beirdo:

in the channel: !seen blah

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Beirdo:

in privmsg: seen #mythtv-users blah

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xris:

yeah, makes sense

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xris:

or without the channel name, would do an independent search

[20:35:13]

Beirdo:

right now, it insists on being only in channel

[20:35:22]

Beirdo:

hmm.

[20:35:38]

Beirdo:

yeah it could, and return "last seen in #blah at..."

[20:35:59]

grant_:

Sorry for asking a dumb question, but what is the purpose of the video_dir directory in mythweb?

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Beirdo:

I think it's to point at the videos that mythvideo has access to

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xris:

grant_: mythvideo

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k-man_:

how do you test the return code of a program?

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k-man_:

the exit code i should say

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Beirdo:

in what?

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BumbaClot:

anyone here can help me load modules? i just can't figure this out anymore

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k-man_:

in the shell

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k-man_:

in bash say

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Beirdo:

$? usually

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k-man_:

oh

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k-man_:

ok

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k-man_:

so just test $? after i execute the program?

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Beirdo:

yup

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k-man_:

thanks

[21:05:16]

Beirdo:

no prob

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astate:

is anyone here an xbmcmythtv user and know where I can change the min ring buffer setting?

[21:05:20]

BumbaClot:

I have a wintv pvr 150 and i am getting nowhere, i can use ivtvctl -a and see my card is there but can't get any output

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k-man_:

and a is it normal 0 unless there is an error?

[21:05:34]

Beirdo:

that's the convention, yes

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k-man_:

thanks

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sphing:

GreyFoxx: you around?

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astate:

Bumbaclot – do a lsmod and see if cx35840 is listed

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BumbaClot:

i dont have that module

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astate:

thats why its not working, you need to get it

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BumbaClot:

is it part of the kernel or ivtv

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astate:

it's probably a missed kernel setting...i had the same problem on a gentoo install

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astate:

it requires kernel settings, and its part of ivtv

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astate:

if the kernel settings aren't right, ivtv can't load it

[21:10:27]

roger55:

Alright, I seem to be unable to specify proper frequencies for channels on my dvb-s card. does anyone here have a working setup for a dvb-s card with astra and mythtv-0.19?

[21:10:51]

BumbaClot:

i have cx88=m in my kernel config

[21:10:59]

Juski:

roger55: channel lists are very easily found for astra

[21:11:05]

roger55:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1414 seems to be the issue I ran into

[21:11:29]

roger55:

Juski, yes, I have a working one, but it has the khz vs mhz issue with 0.19

[21:11:44]

roger55:

Juski, my channels.conf works fine with mplayer for example

[21:12:52]

Juski:

roger55: so, add some zeros like the ticket says

[21:12:55]

roger55:

and mythtv seems to have mixed up the order of magnitudes somewhere – or I am too confused to figure out what to fill in and where to fill things in.

[21:13:18]

Juski:

1kHz == 1000Hz

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roger55:

Juski, :)

[21:13:41]

roger55:

Juski, and where can I set the symbol rate for each channel?

[21:13:43]

Juski:

1MHz == 1000kHz == 1000000Hz

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astate:

BumbaClot: if I remember right, I had to remove two settings that had to do with the kernel allowing hotplugging modules with firmware, and had to have bt848 support, and two more options for additional audio and video chipset support

[21:13:58]

Juski:

roger55: no idea, not owning a DVB-S setup

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Beirdo:

hey MSN... you go to hell, and you die!

[21:15:27]

Juski:

Beirdo: yup.. and none of my mates will install anything else... lame :-/

[21:15:41]

Beirdo:

MSN won't let me connect right now

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kormoc:

Juski, gaim!

[21:15:48]

Beirdo:

and I need to ask my mom something

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Juski:

all the notification servers are fucked

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Beirdo:

MSN – Error: Error reported by MSN server: Server is unavailable

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kormoc:

Beirdo, there is this thing called a telephone

[21:16:10]

Juski:

kormoc: I use GAIM, but it's no use if you can't bloody log in

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Beirdo:

kormoc: stop talkin nonsense :)

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Beirdo:

I use bitlbee

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Beirdo:

heh

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** meushi does a little dance **

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kormoc:

:P

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meushi:

30 minutes before my new backend goes live

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Beirdo:

and 35 minutes before you find a problem :)

[21:17:33]

Beirdo:

heh

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sandos:

hmm. I installaed myth from .debs, and Im now on the verge of typing "make install" to install from source (on debian)

[21:17:42]

meushi:

heh

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sandos:

which packages should I uninstall first?

[21:17:53]

meushi:

Beirdo: 29m59 I'd say :p

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xanderp:

anyone know if the 350's closed captions (which are supposed to work now in 0.19) will encode the cc into the mpeg so that if i playback the file on another frontend it will have the captions in the recording? I am contemplating moving my 350 to backend to get captions working.

[21:17:57]

sandos:

all mythtv-X packages ?

[21:18:07]

Beirdo:

yeah or that

[21:18:15]

Beirdo:

sandos: I think so

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kormoc:

sandos, if it's installed via debs, why install from source as well?

[21:18:24]

Beirdo:

upgrading to SVN?

[21:18:27]

sandos:

Ive built it eith directfb support

[21:18:47]

kormoc:

sandos, might want to uninstall the debs first then, in any case

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sandos:

trying to get _both_ interlace and vsync to work.. and this seems to be the only way using a TNT2.. if even this will work :)

[21:20:06]

xris:

Beirdo: we can hook up a search interface on the web tonight after testing gzip+cache speed differences

[21:20:09]

meushi:

a TNT2? wow

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Beirdo:

cool

[21:20:22]

Beirdo:

yeah, sounds like a plan

[21:20:35]

Beirdo:

although I will have to spend time with the fiancee first.

[21:20:36]

Beirdo:

:)

[21:20:38]

xris:

btw, I made it such that we could print the logs out in XML or plain text or whatever format we wanted, too.

[21:20:43]

xris:

is she visiting?

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Beirdo:

getting the invites ready

[21:20:58]

Beirdo:

nah, she's at home

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xris:

ahh.. phone/internet time.

[21:21:17]

xris:

you ever get job stuff figured out?

[21:21:22]

Beirdo:

heh.

[21:21:23]

Beirdo:

no

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kormoc:

video conference!

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sandos:

meushi, Im on a budget here ;)

[21:21:41]

meushi:

sandos: so am I... but still... a TNT2...

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xris:

kormoc: that's what got me through grad school

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sandos:

no need for 3d _ever_ so I see no need to buy new card... exept driver support, seemingly

[21:22:24]

Beirdo:

oh believe me, we use the phone a LOT

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Beirdo:

VoIP is a good thing

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xris:

sandos: gputrans. :)

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sandos:

haha

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xris:

whenever Beirdo writes it.

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Beirdo:

heh

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meushi:

that would be neat

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Beirdo:

it's on my list of stuff to look at soon

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kormoc:

Beirdo, you gotta keep me in the loop on that one :)

[21:23:17]

** kormoc sighs and should order that cg book **

[21:23:18]

meushi:

that may even be a reason to upgrade the 2MX in the new backend

[21:23:35]

Beirdo:

I will, kormoc.. I'm sure I can use the help too

[21:23:57]

xanderp:

is there anything screwy i need to do if i mix a pvr 150 and a 350 in the same backend?

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kormoc:

xanderp, after the goat sacrifice and the trial of a thousand bios error code beeps, not at all

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meushi:

remember... the silver dagger must cut upwards

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xanderp:

hehe... the next question is how to make sure that the 350 is the primary recording card, so that i get captions most of the time.

[21:25:13]

meushi:

else the goat is not valid

[21:26:24]

kormoc:

xanderp, there's a part to set that up somewhere in myth's setup.

[21:26:53]

xanderp:

i wish i had just dropped the cash on 3 pvr350's so i wouldnt have to mess with it. These 150's have been a nightmare

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kormoc:

ooh?

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xanderp:

i.e. they weren't initially supported, and now they don't have [cc] supported...

[21:29:09]

Juski:

xanderp: they never had [cc] supported

[21:29:26]

xanderp:

that's the problem... at least the 350's do now...

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Juski:

it might only be a matter of time before CC support is added

[21:29:55]

** xanderp is fairly deaf **

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** kormoc nods **

[21:30:07]

Juski:

get a louder TV ;-)

[21:30:08]

Beirdo:

all that rock and/or roll?

[21:30:16]

xanderp:

aircraft carrier

[21:30:20]

Beirdo:

ah

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kormoc:

I would imagine that it's easier to get the 150's with cc working now that they know how the 350's work

[21:30:48]

xanderp:

anyone know if i record on a 350 will it capture the cc stream into the recording now?

[21:30:55]

Juski:

seems to be one of the big beefs folks have about ivtv is the CC support – must be a lot of hard of hearing around

[21:31:00]

kormoc:

I still want to figure out how to get it to cc on mute

[21:31:53]

Juski:

the video decoder (digitiser) supports CC & all the niceties VBI data brings, so it's likely just a matter of time

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xanderp:

i wouldn't mind if myth didn't understand cc, if it would just capture the stream to the recording, then play that back to the television. i could let the tv do the decoding of the [cc]

[21:32:49]

m1k3:

"NTSC sliced VBI (aka CC embedded in the recorded MPEG files) is only functional for the PVR250/350. I could not get it to work for the cx25840 chip used on the pvr150/500. PAL works fine, oddly enough. I must be missing something essential here. A ticket is open for that, but it has low prio for me, I'm afraid."

[21:33:22]

m1k3:

(hans verkuil, the lead dev on ivtv these days, comment ca. Jan 7)

[21:33:44]

xanderp:

my other problem is getting my epia m10000 mpeg out to not look like crap.

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xanderp:

off to dinner

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Beirdo:

oh hell

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Beirdo:

this isn't good

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Beirdo:

I'm falling asleep at my desk... again

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Beirdo:

I'll take that as my cue to get the hell outta here

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dtm:

Beirdo: dont beat yourself up

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** stuarta sends a coffee Beirdo's way **

[21:38:21]

Beirdo:

mmm, coffee

[21:38:58]

Beirdo:

when the head starts to bob... it's time to leave

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Krazylegz:

Beirdo: Which channels does the bot autorespond in?

[21:39:12]

Beirdo:

hmm?

[21:39:17]

Krazylegz:

Zee bot.

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stuarta:

performing code surgery is such fun...

[21:39:33]

Beirdo:

I have it in #havokmud (separate instance from this one)

[21:39:41]

Beirdo:

with a command char of ~

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Krazylegz:

Does he autorespond in there?

[21:39:44]

Krazylegz:

Ah, right.

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kormoc:

anyone have any constructive thoughts about a ford focus?

[21:39:50]

Krazylegz:

So, ~trout ?

[21:39:56]

Beirdo:

kormoc: yes, don't do it :)

[21:39:59]

Beirdo:

yup

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stuarta:

ford = Found On Rubbish Dumps

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Krazylegz:

kormoc: I'm a fan of the Focus.

[21:40:29]

Beirdo:

the only fucus I've been in was junk

[21:40:40]

** stuarta is a holden man himself **

[21:40:49]

Beirdo:

but it was a rental, so... who knows

[21:41:09]

kormoc:

brand new with the options I want is about 16.5k with 2.5k cash back

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xris:

kormoc: going for a tiny car?

[21:44:45]

xris:

no diesel

[21:44:52]

Beirdo:

I like the Toyota Prius :)

[21:45:24]

xris:

Beirdo: $24k minimum

[21:45:43]

xris:

Yaris is nice for non-hybrid.. starts around $12k for automatic ($11k for manual)

[21:45:46]

kormoc:

xris, I figure, if I can get it for under 15k, I can make double payments and own it in 2 years or 3 years and thus be able to sell it for a nice price when the diesel hybreds are around

[21:45:55]

xris:

wtf is up with the sudden portuguese spam to my gmail acct?

[21:45:57]

Beirdo:

yeah, but it's a NICE car

[21:46:15]

xris:

Beirdo: prius has a HORRIBLE blind spot.

[21:46:19]

xris:

I hate driving my dad's./

[21:46:31]

Beirdo:

I didn't notice it in my fiancee's

[21:46:44]

Beirdo:

but it was night when I was driving it

[21:46:55]

Beirdo:

and blind spots are irrelevant at night on a freeway

[21:47:05]

xris:

looking back over your left shoulder.. the frame of the car blocks most of the visibility out the side rear windows.

[21:47:26]

xris:

forces you to use the mirror (which is thankfully large), which I don't trust as much.

[21:47:29]

Beirdo:

yeah, I didn't notice it, but I can believe it

[21:47:34]

Beirdo:

I am used to using mirrors

[21:47:38]

xris:

I use both.

[21:47:50]

xris:

but always check over my shoulder before doing things like lane changes.

[21:48:38]

Beirdo:

yeah, me too

[21:48:41]

Beirdo:

except at night

[21:48:49]

Beirdo:

headlights + mirror

[21:48:51]

Beirdo:

:)

[21:49:05]

Beirdo:

if there's no headlights on, I'm screwed anyways

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xris:

heh

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xris:

I don't trust my depth perception out the mirrors...

[21:50:49]

xris:

too many of them are bent to make things look further away than they really are.

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xris:

I like the yaris, though.. I may get one next year when they're released in the US.

[21:52:00]

xris:

though honda may also actually release a $12k hybrid next year.. as much as i prefer toyota, $12k for a hybrid would be nice.

[21:52:12]

xris:

still can't beat my $500 camry, though

[21:52:34]

Beirdo:

hehe

[21:52:50]

Beirdo:

sure I can. just gimme a baseball bat, and I'll beat it for ya

[21:53:03]

Beirdo:

smashy smashy :)

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stuarta:

mythtv-users, the only channel that discusses everything but the topic :)

[21:53:41]

Beirdo:

hehe

[21:53:50]

Beirdo:

we discuss topic-related stuff... sometimes

[21:53:59]

stuarta:

when bored....

[21:54:05]

Beirdo:

I don't hear any questions currently :)

[21:54:19]

xris:

stuarta: we believe in being social as long as there aren't people needing on-topic help

[21:54:23]

xris:

better than a quiet channel

[21:54:36]

stuarta:

I come for my entertainment :-)

[21:54:49]

xris:

we could talk about beer.

[21:54:54]

Beirdo:

mmmm.

[21:54:55]

xris:

that'd even be mildly on topic

[21:55:03]

stuarta:

mainly what Juski has broken lately....

[21:55:09]

Beirdo:

oh damn

[21:55:19]

Beirdo:

I forgot to bring the scotch to work to give away

[21:55:21]

Beirdo:

I suck

[21:55:24]

stuarta:

beer... I have beer in the fridge...

[21:55:41]

xris:

I have mead in the garage

[21:55:52]

Juski:

stuarta: I'm trying to prepare a DVD at the mo but the MainConcept mpeg encoder keeps shitting itself

[21:55:53]

xris:

need to play with the new toy that ole_schoola gave me

[21:56:01]

Beirdo:

toys are good

[21:56:02]

xris:

find out how much alcohol is really in it

[21:56:02]

** kormoc has beer in the fridge and cider in the closet and vodka in his desk (all at home) **

[21:56:12]

Beirdo:

vodka in the desk?

[21:56:16]

Beirdo:

it goes in the freezer

[21:56:19]

Beirdo:

infidel!

[21:56:25]

xris:

kormoc: we still have bacardi 151 upstairs in a cupboard somewhere if you realy want something.

[21:56:26]

kormoc:

Beirdo, hehe, not when living with a alcoholic :P

[21:56:30]

Beirdo:

oh

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stuarta:

xris: I don't think it matters as long as it's more than none :)

[21:56:36]

Beirdo:

fair enough

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kormoc:

tho, I should move it to the freezer now

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Beirdo:

I have a bottle of 151 too

[21:56:47]

Beirdo:

:)

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stuarta:

absynthe...

[21:57:18]

Beirdo:

and I've been to the distillery where my bottle of 151 was made

[21:57:27]

Beirdo:

and will be getting married about 1 mile from it

[21:57:28]

Beirdo:

:)

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Juski:

www.google.com could not be found. oh crap

[21:57:34]

kormoc:

xris, hehe, if this job gets to the point of needing 151, I'd be so busy, I couldn't get a drink :P

[21:57:46]

stuarta:

Beirdo: that sounds like a cunning plan...

[21:57:59]

kormoc:

stuarta, meh, today's absynthe isn't anything like the origional stuff, unless you know where to buy it

[21:58:11]

Beirdo:

the place we are having the wedding is about 1 mile from Casa Bacardi

[21:58:12]

Beirdo:

:)

[21:58:33]

stuarta:

just visit little towns in Czech Republic. They have the good stuff...

[21:58:49]

kormoc:

"It's been celebrated as a muse and banned as a poison. Now an obsessed microbiologist has cracked the code for absinthe" – and distilled his own. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.11/absinthe.html

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kormoc:

stuarta, unless it's really recent. The original recipe was lost, and that guy used a lot of stuff to break down a old bottle and recreate it.

[21:59:47]

Juski:

ahhhh.. bastard NTL!

[22:02:57]

Juski:

anyone know some public DNS servers I can use? NTLs seem to be down & I can't get on any search engines to find another

[22:03:14]

dtm:

Juski: 205.153.244.1

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otwin:

Juski: 158.64.1.14

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xris:

Juski: dns is somewhat public by design

[22:04:58]

Juski:

ahhh.. didn't know that...

[22:05:01]

Juski:

cheers folks

[22:05:53]

Beirdo:

yes, but not all servers will let you recurse using them

[22:06:03]

xris:

Beirdo: yes..

[22:06:04]

Juski:

now, what was I looking for...

[22:06:32]

xris:

Juski: any server will let you query the records that it hosts... many/most will query others for you, too, since they don't lock general access to a specific user base.

[22:06:56]

Juski:

that's cool

[22:07:25]

Beirdo:

OK, now I need to pack up and head out for a while :)

[22:07:28]

Juski:

since I can't look in any logs here I'll have to google the error message I get from DVD Architect

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xris:

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kormoc:

xris, if you want to go parts on a bottle, I can get one no problem

[22:16:12]

stuarta:

fascinating history of absynthe that is....

[22:16:36]

kormoc:

yeah :)

[22:17:27]

dtm:

stuarta: there's also one in the dvd extras of that "jack the ripper" movie with johnny depp

[22:17:28]

Krazylegz:

Quick question: Can you have two remotes with MythTV?

[22:17:43]

Krazylegz:

Would a single lirc daemon listen to two remotes?

[22:17:43]

kormoc:

Krazylegz, yup

[22:17:47]

** kormoc nods **

[22:17:50]

Krazylegz:

Neat.

[22:17:52]

Krazylegz:

Very neat.

[22:18:02]

** stuarta scratches his head... **

[22:18:05]

** dtm thinks quietly to himself "yes" **

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** stuarta goes to sit in the confused corner... **

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** xris unfortunately has better things to spend his $67 on than half a bottle of green alcohol, no matter how good it is. (esp. since that's how much it is for a particular bottle of really good scotch) **

[22:22:03]

xris:

and 3x the cost of a bottle of really good rum

[22:22:21]

kormoc:

heh, hence why I don't have a bottle myself :)

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scopeuk:

absinth?

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kormoc:

scopeuk, yup

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scopeuk:

nasty stuff

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scopeuk:

had 2 mates with 2 diferent types and they were btoh nasty

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stuarta:

one guy I talked to said everytime he drank it he ended up in weird places

[22:24:06]

stuarta:

like sleeping on a bookshelf

[22:24:29]

kormoc:

I've had some that wasn't nasty, just not too good

[22:24:32]

xris:

scopeuk: read the article that kormoc linked to.

[22:24:34]

kormoc:

and it never did anything to me.

[22:24:42]

sandos:

how do I make clean for myth? is "make clean" the most clean there is, or are there "cleaner" alternatives =)

[22:24:51]

sandos:

my recompilation is broken.. compilation 1 worked fine though

[22:24:52]

stuarta:

kormac: one glass is never enough ;-)

[22:24:55]

xris:

sandos: rm -rf

[22:25:06]

sandos:

well hmm yeah =)

[22:25:08]

xris:

stuarta: tab-complete

[22:25:21]

xris:

sandos: dunno if distclean works in myth or not

[22:25:37]

sandos:

seems it does...

[22:25:42]

xris:

clear your ~/.ccache if you have it, too

[22:25:48]

** stuarta refuses to do rude things to his tab key **

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kormoc:

stuarta, hehe, I nurse alcohol. I like it, but I don't like being drunk.

[22:26:41]

stuarta:

no point in drinking absynthe then...

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kormoc:

stuarta, heh, sure there is, it was ment as a after dinner sip and talk drink :)

[22:27:45]

kormoc:

stuarta, if you want to get out of control, there's cheaper, better drugs for that :P

[22:27:59]

stuarta:

only if between yourself and a number of friends you drink the bottle :)

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** stuarta confesses to being an alcoholic **

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xris:

kormoc: apertif == before dinner

[22:28:45]

xris:

but maybe the article got that part wrong

[22:29:13]

kormoc:

ahh, well, we had it after dinner, but I'd trust the article more then my friends :P

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xris:

kormoc: maybe we should have a "brewing night" instead of a mythtv meetup. people might actually show up to something like that.

[22:39:54]

abarbaccia:

hey all – anybody here use mythburn with 0.19?

[22:40:14]

xris:

abarbaccia: big discussion about it on the mailing list

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abarbaccia:

xris, you have a thread post or anything?

[22:40:35]

abarbaccia:

link

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kormoc:

xris, hehe, yeah, I could see that

[22:40:56]

xris:

abarbaccia: search the archives for "mythburn not in mythweb"

[22:41:00]

abarbaccia:

and i saw some mythburn2 in cvs – looked like a python rewrite??

[22:41:05]

kormoc:

xris, we'd need to get something going soon if we wanted j-rod to come

[22:41:06]

abarbaccia:

got it – thanks

[22:41:23]

xris:

should bug chutt to see if we can get the listserv to put a URL into the message headers.

[22:41:36]

xris:

kormoc: he may be gone already

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kormoc:

he's telecommuting for 3 months iirc

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xris:

ahh

[22:42:20]

xris:

what we need is a nice warm day and then we can just party in my backyard

[22:42:36]

** jasta raises an eyebrow **

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xris:

esp. if my cherry tree starts blooming soon

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kormoc:

yeah, for sure

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kormoc:

jasta, hehe, was it the talk of the myth meetup or the alcohol that got your attention? :P

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xris:

problem is that they have kids, so we'd need something to keep his son occupied, and warm enough for the baby.

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jasta:

kormoc: which do you think?

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kormoc:

hehe

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** xris wants his dvb card. **

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xris:

stupid slow ground shipping

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abarbaccia:

xris, okay, now that i see that its not 100% yet with the web based stuff but is working with the GUI, how do i compile the gui – do i need to download all the cvs of myth to compile it against (i think it said so but i dont know how to.....kinda new to cvs)

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BumbaClot:

i got my video working but myth won't work. I started backend, then frontend, and when i try to watch i get a black screen and ring buffer errors

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abarbaccia:

BumbaClot, do you have the tv directory writeable?

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BumbaClot:

i did chmod 666 /mnt/store

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abarbaccia:

you using 0.18 or 0.19?

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BumbaClot:

.18

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BumbaClot:

.18

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BumbaClot:

ack

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BumbaClot:

backend messages went into my window

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abarbaccia:

well check where the tv buffer is stored in the mythtv-setup

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Pitchin_uk:

evening – im trying to setup up apache but im getting "client denied by server configuration: /srv/www/htdocs/mythweb"

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roger55:

BumbaClot, 666 for a directory are likely wrong

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BumbaClot:

i have a message in my backend

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BumbaClot:

quit

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jono:

hi all

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jono:

I am using the radio times tv channels grabber, but a bunch of channels seem to be missing – any idea how to get them ?

[23:05:21]

stuarta:

reconfigure the grabber

[23:06:21]

jono:

but whenthe grabber works, it grabs all the channels, but misses out a bunch of them

[23:06:49]

stuarta:

it ignores ones it hasn't been told to grab

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stuarta:

so if channels have been added since you configured it...

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jono:

yeah,channells

[23:07:20]

jono:

oops

[23:07:26]

jono:

yea channels have been added

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stuarta:

it doesn't grab info for the newer channels

[23:07:45]

jono:

so how do I get it to refresh the list so it gets the newer channels?

[23:08:01]

Juski:

hey jono

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stuarta:

erm, think you need to run tv_grab_rt --setup or --config

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jono:

hey Juski :)

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Juski:

jono: you can hand-edit the .xmltv file – that always works for me

[23:08:51]

Juski:

<videosourcename>.xmltv in ~/.mythtv/

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Juski:

it has a line for each channel & goes

[23:09:21]

Juski:

channel xmltvid ;)

[23:09:32]

jono:

so how do I regenerate that file ?

[23:09:39]

jono:

it was last updated in december

[23:09:43]

Juski:

of course you still need to edit the xmltvids in the channel editor

[23:09:48]

Juski:

jono: just use vi or whatever

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Juski:

otherwise you have to reconfigure it to set _all_ your channel again – it wont append to the file

[23:10:32]

Juski:

my method is kinda dirty but it works (tm)

[23:11:04]

jono:

the problem is that my current radiotimes.xmltv was updated in decemeber and since then I have had new channels appear – if I update that file, do I lose all my channel settings?

[23:11:21]

Juski:

jono: no you won't lose all of them

[23:11:33]

jono:

so how do I regenerate that file?

[23:11:41]

Juski:

have a look at the file.. you'll see how easy it is to add new channels ;)

[23:12:00]

jono:

yeah, but how do I know which channels to adD?

[23:12:04]

jono:

its just full of urls

[23:12:07]

Juski:

jono: you'd run tv_grab_uk_rt --configure to regenerate it but I'm saying you don't have to

[23:12:44]

Juski:

in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids you'll see a biiiig list of the xmltvids for all the supported channels

[23:13:23]

Juski:

gimme 2 secs I'll post my files up

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[Jasper]:

hmm

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jono:

hmmm, I am missing paramount + 1 as an example, when I grep channel_ids for "paramount" I only get two lines – I suspect for paramount 1 and 2

[23:16:10]

Juski:

jono: http://pastebin.com/589927 http://pastebin.com/589925

[23:17:11]

Juski:

is paramount +1 still going?

[23:17:18]

Juski:

I thought it'd changed to 2

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stuarta:

not on dvb-t

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Juski:

http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/channels.dat will tell you all the channels covered by the uk_rt grabber

[23:18:28]

jono:

Juski, is that freeview?

[23:18:53]

Juski:

jono: yes.. I've got my cable one too

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jono:

ahhh it seems it doesnt support it

[23:19:21]

jono:

is the radio times the only grabber for the uk ?

[23:19:27]

Juski:

there's bleb

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Juski:

but that supports even less channels IIRC

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stuarta:

or over the air..

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Juski:

paramount comedy+1 isn't on TUTV or freeview though

[23:20:45]

jono:

it says on the RT site that it supports over 350 channels

[23:21:12]

jono:

but only about 250 are listed in the channels.dat link you posted

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Juski:

can't say I'd noticed that up til now

[23:23:00]

Juski:

I suppose you could make a script.. but it's not nice to have to do that

[23:23:20]

jono:

hmmm

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jono:

how odd

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Juski:

but hey look they've got xmltv feeds for Thane Direct :-/

[23:24:09]

Juski:

how much space does it waste to say "non-stop 24 hour gash TV" ?

[23:24:58]

Juski:

there's always the option of emailing em & begging.. if enough of us do it... ;)

[23:25:32]

Juski:

anyway good luck.. I'm off to bed – I'm pooped

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Pitchin_uk:

whats the best permissions to have on mythweb

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riddlebox:

#php

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riddlebox:

oops

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drdaz:

ahoy there... I'm getting a segfault in mythfrontend after using xine to watch a DVD...

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drdaz:

here's a backtrace:

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drdaz:

http://pastebin.com/589987

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drdaz:

any ideas?

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