Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, March 6th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

[00:00:54]

Sudanmas:

Kormoc – sounds good – thanks

[00:02:32]

rogier (rogier!n=rogier@16-65-dsl.ipact.nl) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[00:03:21]

scopeuk (scopeuk!n=Scope@cpc3-mfld2-3-1-cust176.nott.cable.ntl.com) has quit ("IceChat - Keeping PC's cool since 2000")

[00:05:01]

a1fa:

hey

[00:05:05]

a1fa:

who is running xbmcmythtv?

[00:05:15]

Sudanmas (Sudanmas!n=me@blk-222-164-86.eastlink.ca) has quit ()

[00:06:51]

** Juski gets a network cable to plug his xbox into his switch **

[00:07:04]

a1fa:

Juski : are you running that cvs version?

[00:07:37]

Juski:

I dunno what version it is

[00:07:51]

Juski:

it's quite some time since I updated it

[00:08:03]

Chris97b:

anyone have any ideas?

[00:08:20]

a1fa:

Juski : is your xbox frontend the primary one?

[00:08:30]

Juski:

a1fa: no way

[00:08:56]

a1fa:

my damn tv has only one RCA interface

[00:09:11]

narf:

how can I remove a program from the media library if it has a little RIP symbol, and it won't let me remove it?

[00:11:03]

a1fa:

?

[00:11:43]

a1fa:

Juski : looks like they fixed the livetv on xbmc

[00:11:54]

Juski:

what's the protocol version at now?

[00:11:56]

Juski:

28?

[00:12:31]

a1fa:

dont know

[00:12:39]

a1fa:

are you going to update your xb,cmythtv?

[00:13:25]

Kabutor (Kabutor!n=kabutor@170.Red-83-36-100.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:13:29]

Juski:

if I can get it working as it is, prolly not

[00:13:47]

a1fa:

it will work

[00:13:49]

a1fa:

lets update it

[00:13:51]

a1fa:

together

[00:13:51]

a1fa:

:P

[00:13:55]

Juski:

I'll need to update xbmc too

[00:14:16]

Juski:

and I've not downloaded the leetness which is xbmc for ages

[00:14:19]

a1fa:

why>

[00:14:23]

a1fa:

i got the newest one

[00:14:31]

Juski:

er... it just works – no need to upgrade

[00:15:11]

monolith:

anybody here successfully setup mythweb wit 0.19 that can help me out for a quick minute?

[00:15:54]

a1fa:

monolith : what is the problem

[00:15:56]

a1fa:

dont ask to ask

[00:15:57]

sphing_:

monolith: just ask

[00:15:59]

a1fa:

but ask

[00:16:07]

Juski:

a1fa: okay I'm gonna see if I can get the newest xbmc

[00:16:17]

monolith:

well – im getting the database setup error

[00:16:22]

Juski:

I don't need to overwrite anything on the box anyway

[00:16:31]

a1fa:

Juski: want the url? :

[00:16:41]

Juski:

monolith: edit the .htaccess file in the root of your mythweb directory

[00:16:43]

monolith:

im trying to allow override for the .htaccess file but it doesn't seem to be working, and i dont know how to enable the mod_* in ubuntu

[00:16:58]

monolith:

Juski, i did that – changed the password and login for the database

[00:17:07]

a1fa:

monolith : it should be enabled by default

[00:17:11]

Juski:

a1fa: there's a URL for xbmc now?

[00:17:18]

a1fa:

ftp site

[00:17:40]

Kabutor:

how can I watch DVB-s video with mplayer?

[00:18:04]

monolith:

a1fa, thats what i had thought – but it doesnt seem to want to work...

[00:18:24]

a1fa:

check your apache error

[00:18:26]

monolith:

wait

[00:18:45]

monolith:

i think i was doing something stupid – i didnt run mythfildatabase maybe since the DB wasnt populated i was getting errors...

[00:18:49]

monolith:

doubt it – but you never know

[00:19:04]

BCVisin (BCVisin!n=BCVisin@c-24-130-58-42.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:19:17]

BCVisin:

hello?

[00:20:47]

roger55:

Kabutor, mplayer -ao alsa -cache 8192 -vo xv -vf pp=lb – < /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0

[00:21:18]

roger55:

Kabutor, and you set the channel via 'szap -r arte' for example

[00:21:37]

Kabutor:

Im setting them via szap, but mplayer refuses to work

[00:21:49]

roger55:

Kabutor, szap -r ?

[00:21:54]

Kabutor:

ATM its filling cache (0,00% thoug=)

[00:22:11]

monolith:

alright – that didnt work as planned – anybody else try setting up the new mythweb on ubuntu?

[00:22:13]

Kabutor:

- r ?

[00:22:15]

BCVisin:

where can I find a list of supported video capture cards or tv tuner cards?

[00:22:26]

roger55:

Kabutor, yes. szap -r channelname

[00:23:04]

Kabutor:

ok roger55 prepare to have sex :D

[00:23:14]

Kabutor:

what is the -r for?

[00:23:38]

roger55:

-r : set up /dev/dvb/adapterX/dvr0 for TS recording

[00:24:00]

Kabutor:

I see.. that did the trick..

[00:24:01]

roger55:

Kabutor, does mythtv work for you or not?

[00:24:37]

Kabutor:

yes, In my box plugged to the tv, but now Im testing another card in another computer :)

[00:24:46]

roger55:

Kabutor, because mplayer works here, but mythtv refuses to show me any video.

[00:26:01]

roger55:

http://rafb.net/paste/results/MdIm6J16.html if someone's interested.

[00:26:09]

Kabutor:

no idea atm, I have a very poor bt848 in the mythtv atm

[00:26:38]

HalimC (HalimC!n=HalimC@c-69-138-87-90.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[00:27:14]

Kabutor:

and mplayer works fine?

[00:27:16]

roger55:

it's a wintv-nova se2 plus and the gfx card is an nvidia 6200 with the 1.0.8178-r3 drivers

[00:27:37]

roger55:

Kabutor, yes with the command above.

[00:28:07]

Kabutor:

maybe mythtv works with /dev/video0 ?

[00:30:11]

roger55:

Kabutor, oh does it?

[00:30:29]

roger55:

Kabutor, did you have your dvb-s card in use with mythtv?

[00:30:38]

Kabutor:

nomego, I have bt848

[00:30:52]

Kabutor:

I plan on moving this dvb-s later

[00:31:14]

Kabutor:

I cant touch the mythtv or my girlfriend killsme

[00:31:25]

Kabutor:

so I have to test in another pc

[00:31:52]

Kabutor:

roger55, you exec the myth-setuo right?

[00:31:59]

roger55:

many times.

[00:32:13]

Kabutor:

I think you have a similar problem as I have here

[00:32:22]

Kabutor:

if I do that command in mplayer it works fine

[00:32:25]

roger55:

I must have gotten lost somewhere getting thedamn card to work at all.

[00:32:43]

Kabutor:

but If i replace dvb/adapter0/... for /dev/video0 it doesnt work

[00:33:22]

Kabutor:

and dont know how to know what device is /dev/video0

[00:33:35]

Kabutor:

its symlinking /dev/v4l/video0 here

[00:34:18]

roger55:

Kabutor, I guess that is the svideo in port of my card

[00:38:55]

Kabutor (Kabutor!n=kabutor@170.Red-83-36-100.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[00:40:23]

rage- (rage-!n=rage@0-2pool242-168.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:41:36]

CyberGlitch2 (CyberGlitch2!n=jsievert@216-243-131-195.static.iphouse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:43:58]

defi_:

in 0.19 did they change where livetv is stored?

[00:45:29]

a1fa:

no

[00:45:39]

a1fa:

its where ever you set it in myth-setup

[00:45:48]

monolith (monolith!n=monolith@c-24-91-115-239.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[00:45:54]

defi_:

so where did my ringbuff.nuv go in livetv dir?

[00:48:15]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[00:49:27]

a1fa:

really? why not?

[00:49:42]

mchou (mchou!n=mchou@c-71-198-123-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12")

[00:49:58]

a1fa:

no more nuvs

[00:50:10]

a1fa:

mpg

[00:50:11]

defi_:

really?

[00:50:31]

a1fa:

each show is recorded seperatly

[00:50:34]

defi_:

ok

[00:50:34]

a1fa:

even livetv

[00:50:36]

defi_:

I think theyre being saved in my recordings dir now

[00:50:40]

a1fa:

ok

[00:51:03]

defi_:

thats so you can record it from the beginning of when you watched it?

[00:51:26]

a1fa:

yeah

[00:51:57]

a1fa:

Juski : what error are you getting?

[00:51:58]

BCVisin (BCVisin!n=BCVisin@c-24-130-58-42.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[00:52:05]

defi_:

when do they erase the program then. after you change channel?

[00:52:54]

a1fa:

no

[00:52:56]

a1fa:

it stays there

[00:53:03]

a1fa:

then it expireds

[00:53:11]

BCVisin (BCVisin!n=BCVisin@c-24-130-58-42.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:54:06]

defi_:

really, when?

[00:54:16]

Juski:

a1fa: I'm not getting any errors

[00:54:20]

Juski:

it's just not working

[00:55:14]

Juski:

I mean I click on the mythtvmain.py script & it loads but does nothing

[00:55:29]

a1fa:

did you read the readme first?

[00:55:30]

defi_:

so basically I dont need a seperate dir for livetv anymore...

[00:55:45]

** Kel-kippin grumbles **

[00:55:46]

a1fa:

defi_ : its whatever you set it to in myhttv-setup[

[00:55:49]

Kel-kippin is now known as Kelerion

[00:56:16]

Kelerion:

my main FE in the living room just blew up on me... had to finish watching my film in the bedroom

[00:56:17]

defi_:

theyre used to be at least in 0.18 seperate dir's for livetv and recordings

[00:56:30]

defi_:

now I guess its just recordings

[00:57:01]

defi_:

seeing as theyre is only one dir option in mythtv-setup

[00:57:12]

Kelerion:

livetv *is* just a recording now

[00:57:19]

a1fa:

Run the mythtvmain.py script and go into the Settings screen to specify your

[00:57:21]

a1fa:

connection details and paths.

[00:57:24]

a1fa:

i am gonna go try this

[00:57:45]

Juski:

a1fa: yes.. run the mythtvmain.py script. hmm.. great idea.... run run run run you bastard

[00:57:56]

defi_:

Kelerion so simple yet so hard to understand...lol

[00:57:59]

Kelerion:

whats the script do?

[00:58:17]

a1fa:

Juski : it works for me dude

[00:58:50]

defi_:

Guess i can rip that old 6GB hard drive i was using for livetv out now

[00:59:38]

Juski:

ok I'm gonna wipe the apps directory again

[00:59:50]

defi_:

ok so what the hell is the netflix plugin for other than searching theyre catalog?

[01:00:05]

Kelerion:

think "blockbusters"

[01:00:15]

Kelerion:

online ordering of films to be delivered

[01:00:22]

defi_:

yeah but in setup theyre is nowhere for account info

[01:00:34]

Raven301 (Raven301!n=raven_30@London-HSE-ppp3547975.sympatico.ca) has quit ()

[01:00:42]

Kelerion:

never used it.. we don't have netflix in the UK

[01:01:03]

Juski:

hey I just realised – I can bring my xbox along to lugradiolive to serve as frontend

[01:01:30]

Kelerion:

you know they have sony reps there.. right? lol

[01:01:50]

** Kelerion thwaps his forehead **

[01:01:57]

Kelerion:

just ignore me

[01:02:17]

Juski:

Kelerion: I don't care who else is there

[01:02:30]

Juski:

M$ could be there..

[01:02:38]

Juski:

what are they gonna do?

[01:02:41]

Juski:

;-)

[01:02:52]

Kelerion:

frown on you severely? :P

[01:03:06]

Juski:

arrest me for the crime of making their noisy black box do something _useful_ ?

[01:03:32]

Kelerion:

I've never even used an xbox.. am not a gaming-type...

[01:04:12]

Juski:

erm.. wtf is with my ftp client? It's not uploading directories.. that'd explain some stuff

[01:05:44]

Kelerion:

defi.. if you run /usr/local/share/mythtv/mythflix/scripts/netflix.pl (or whereever it is on yours) you can set the username/password etc

[01:06:22]

Juski:

what the??? I can't ftp from a samba share with filezilla :-/

[01:06:49]

Juski:

betty swollocks

[01:07:03]

Kelerion:

am *really* hoping it's just my PSU thats blown up.. I heard a "pop" and everything went dead

[01:07:33]

Kelerion:

can you open the file normally from that samba share? not a perms prob or anything?

[01:11:06]

Juski:

kelerion: aye all no problem

[01:11:40]

monolith (monolith!n=monolith@c-24-91-115-239.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:11:57]

dougl (dougl!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:11:58]

monolith:

hey – did they adapt mythburn to 0.19 mythweb?

[01:12:29]

Cardoe:

someone call?

[01:13:06]

Juski:

hmm failed to connect to database... IP is right, user & pass are right.. protocol is 26...

[01:13:42]

Kelerion:

Juski, what you up to? rebuilding everything?

[01:15:49]

Juski:

Kelerion: playing with XBMC

[01:15:57]

Kelerion:

ahh ok

[01:16:03]

Juski:

that'd explain it – hadn't set my xbox' IP address lol

[01:17:15]

** Juski drools at all this smooth scrolling **

[01:17:57]

Juski:

yeh my theme was _based_ on project Mayhem III but...

[01:18:51]

Juski:

right I gawt some erroring going on here

[01:20:25]

Kelerion:

so can XBMC integrate with myth? or just play media? music, video's etc

[01:21:23]

opello:

there's some xbox/mythtv thing done in python iirc, but it's only for 0.18 i think

[01:21:30]

Juski:

Kelerion: it can play recorded files, schdule recordings, use livetv... the last 2 didn't work last time I tried it

[01:21:50]

Juski:

opello: it's been updated – a1fa & I are trying out the CVS version now

[01:21:57]

Kelerion:

oh.. cool... I thought the two projects were completely seperate

[01:22:11]

opello:

aha

[01:22:13]

opello:

cool

[01:22:18]

Juski:

Kelerion: yeh they are seperate. XBMC is just a spiffy media player thingy

[01:22:36]

Juski:

but these ere python scripts give it basic frontend functionality

[01:23:12]

Kelerion:

neat

[01:23:22]

Chris97b (Chris97b!n=Chris-S-@cpe-66-25-63-122.houston.res.rr.com) has quit ()

[01:23:23]

Juski:

very

[01:23:34]

bmk789 (bmk789!n=bmk789@12-222-67-0.client.insightBB.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:24:03]

monolith:

what do you recommend to burn recordings to DVD with automated menus?

[01:24:13]

Juski:

my first setup just used samba shares of the recordings.. then I found the python scripts

[01:24:30]

a1fa:

Juski

[01:24:32]

a1fa:

damn it dude

[01:24:36]

a1fa:

everything works

[01:24:38]

Juski:

monolith: not mythburn.. and it's the closest thing there is

[01:24:39]

a1fa:

but i cant do livetv

[01:24:40]

a1fa:

:P

[01:25:04]

a1fa:

Encoder 1 is local on mytivo and is watching Live TV: 'Scary Movie 3' on TBS. This recording will end at 8:45 PM.

[01:25:04]

monolith:

Juski, i have mythburn working on 0.18 i just dont know how to get it into 0.19

[01:25:15]

Kelerion:

you can pickup xbox's now for next-to-nothing can't you?

[01:25:18]

a1fa:

but i cant tune to it

[01:25:26]

Juski:

a1fa: restart of the backend is needed then

[01:25:38]

Juski:

and forget about livetv – it's not been reworked for 0.19 AFAIK

[01:26:34]

a1fa:

why is that?

[01:26:56]

Juski:

a1fa: the livetv method has been totally changed since 0.18

[01:27:13]

riksta (riksta!n=rick@213.121.151.210) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[01:28:25]

a1fa:

hehe

[01:28:27]

a1fa:

ok

[01:28:30]

a1fa:

let see if this works

[01:29:37]

a1fa:

i deleted the livetv buffer

[01:29:42]

a1fa:

and set the backend to record

[01:29:47]

a1fa:

lets see if it picksup

[01:30:38]

a1fa:

nope

[01:30:41]

a1fa:

nothing in the recorded

[01:30:42]

a1fa:

files

[01:30:43]

a1fa:

:(

[01:30:46]

a1fa:

ufdfff

[01:30:46]

a1fa:

f

[01:31:03]

Juski:

ha. just crashed XBMC by trying to view the program guide. shoddyness

[01:31:50]

monolith (monolith!n=monolith@c-24-91-115-239.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[01:32:29]

jnunez (jnunez!n=jnunez@ool-43519335.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:32:47]

a1fa:

mine works fine

[01:32:47]

Juski:

wtf is this 'caching subtitles' business when I go to open a file? ffs

[01:32:52]

sphery (sphery!n=sphery@user-142g7bp.cable.mindspring.com) has quit ()

[01:33:56]

Juski:

funny – we're both running the same version

[01:34:03]

Juski:

of everything...

[01:36:31]

dopester (dopester!n=dopester@user-0c8hse7.cable.mindspring.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[01:37:18]

Juski:

oh, and there's no deinterlacing option anymore

[01:37:28]

Juski:

fucking IDIOTS

[01:38:02]

Juski:

well I suppose the main use for XBMC is to play downloaded movies, so that figures

[01:40:36]

__Ace__ (__Ace__!n=love@kr-lun-162-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) has quit ()

[01:46:14]

Juski:

oh. seems it automatically deinterlaces

[01:46:21]

Juski:

after 5 minutes

[01:46:53]

gratuit (gratuit!n=mcneill@c-69-242-194-82.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[01:52:41]

mchou (mchou!n=mchou@c-71-198-123-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:52:46]

Kelerion:

just reading up on some docs for this xbmc.. damn it seems like a lot of (complicated) work

[01:53:23]

Juski:

nah

[01:53:31]

Juski:

just download a (ahem) file

[01:53:59]

Juski:

watching pinky & the brain I recorded the other day, but not with the python stuff

[01:54:35]

Kelerion:

you have to update bios's.. replace the dashboard.. etc etc all before even installing linux?

[01:54:55]

Juski:

Kelerion: chipping the box is inconsequential

[01:55:50]

Kelerion:

I was figuring it couldn't be beyond me if so many people have done it.. it probably all makes more sense when you actually have an xbox in front of you

[01:56:38]

Juski:

takes about half an hour to fit a chip

[01:56:48]

Juski:

one hour to get XBMC running in total

[01:56:54]

dev:

sooner if youre good at soldering

[01:57:24]

Kelerion:

I ain't.. and would probably just buy a ready-modded xbox

[01:58:09]

rtsai:

xris: here?

[01:58:18]

Kelerion:

if I buy a modded box.. does that mean all the bios and dash stuff would already be done?

[01:58:34]

Juski:

Kelerion: probably

[01:59:00]

Juski:

flashing takes all of 5 mins if the DVD drive reads normal writeable media

[01:59:20]

Kelerion:

ok – that sounds like something I'd probably consider trying as a new project then

[01:59:24]

dev:

yeah usualy the chip is preflashed with cromwell bios, a legal bios. the only time you need to modify the dashboard is if you're trying to do, um, not so legal things with it :)

[02:00:21]

dev:

modifying xbox's isnt a good topic of discussion for this, logged, channel

[02:00:32]

Kelerion:

that kind of legal doesn't bother me.. if I've bought a box – as far as I'm concerned – I can do whatever I want with it

[02:01:01]

dev:

Kelerion: thats right, but some of the software thats wrritten for the box is illegal, regardless of if you own the hardware or not

[02:01:17]

Kelerion:

ahh.. ok.. that makes sense

[02:01:26]

Juski:

bah it's a bag o shite anyway – lipsync going in & out of step...

[02:01:31]

Juski:

going back to the older one

[02:01:47]

defi_:

ok can you order movies through mytflix

[02:03:32]

Juski:

whoah... but the photo viewer is doing a Ken Burns type thing – looks very nice

[02:03:32]

dev:

need a mythgrocery plugin

[02:03:42]

** Kelerion watches his webserver and mail server have disk-dicky-fits as it runs a backup of the whole disk ready for tomorrow **

[02:07:21]

nasa:

Has anyone tried mythreciepe lately?

[02:09:25]

JasonX:

Is anyone using 0.19? if so are there any new fields relating to video files (available in filter when viewing videos) eg cast members?

[02:09:50]

Juski:

JasonX: yes. and no to the extra fields AFAIK

[02:09:50]

BCVisin (BCVisin!n=BCVisin@c-24-130-58-42.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[02:10:24]

JasonX:

Its just I'v e just written a script to grab imdb for ALL entries automatically and was thinking of using country for cast members instead

[02:11:31]

braniff (braniff!n=asdfasdf@unaffiliated/braniff) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:11:43]

Krazyleg1 (Krazyleg1!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:11:43]

Krazylegz (Krazylegz!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[02:11:47]

Krazyleg1 is now known as Krazylegz

[02:11:59]

JasonX:

prolly just add the first 4 billed on each movie BUT wondered if this is now in 0.19 anyway? I will prolly just store the country info in the description field so it can be yanked out and shoved back in if cast becomes an id in its own right

[02:12:22]

ricochet (ricochet!n=ricochet@adsl-69-107-73-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:12:47]

Kelerion:

it's not in .19

[02:12:56]

Kelerion:

no new fields

[02:13:38]

JasonX:

OK well i will use country for cast members then

[02:14:32]

Juski:

woo I got playback of recorded shows working in the python thingy

[02:15:26]

wwalker_away is now known as wwalker

[02:15:49]

JasonX:

xbmcmyth isnt very reliable in my experience

[02:16:45]

Spida_ (Spida_!i=Spida@p508A38FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:16:45]

JasonX:

it often leaves the tuner in recording mode, when it isnt, so you have to restart the backend to get it back

[02:16:59]

Juski:

hahahaha livetv.. what's that again? ;-)

[02:17:39]

JasonX:

it also bombs out after a few secs playing sometimes, no matter what ringbuffer & cache settings u set

[02:18:13]

JasonX:

though that said its a pretty good effort

[02:19:07]

wwalker:

how do I know it a card has an encoder? I have 4 cards that have no name.

[02:19:30]

JasonX (JasonX!n=jasonx@84.12.66.162) has quit ()

[02:19:54]

Juski:

wwalker: if it doesn't say Hauppauge on the card it's pretty safe to say NO

[02:20:15]

wwalker:

Juski: ok

[02:20:44]

wwalker:

:(

[02:20:50]

ricochet:

I can't get sound to work. I looked through the archives, and there is someone with the same problem but there is no cure. I can cat /dev/video0 > vid.mpeg, and play that back (with sound). I see some reference to making alsa emulate oss, but I'm not sure how thats done, or if that is old information

[02:22:57]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-67-176-82-206.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[02:22:58]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-67-176-82-206.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:24:00]

ricochet:

mplayer says its using plug:iec958, and I tried to put that into myth's audio device to no avail. can someone help?

[02:24:34]

mmead (mmead!n=mmead@c-68-57-76-114.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:24:56]

mmead:

anyone able to do HDTV on athlonx xp 2100+ (1733mhz) ?

[02:26:34]

Spida (Spida!i=Spida@p508A1DC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[02:27:12]

mipster (mipster!n=mipster@24-197-144-90.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:42:06]

mmead (mmead!n=mmead@c-68-57-76-114.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has quit ()

[02:44:04]

dougl (dougl!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[02:44:10]

dougl (dougl!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:44:18]

kold (kold!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:44:44]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[02:45:12]

rtsai:

ricochet: mythtv on linux requires --enable-oss

[02:45:41]

ricochet:

rtsai, where do I put that?

[02:46:11]

rtsai:

are you building from svn, or using a release?

[02:46:13]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-154-232-2.adsl.xtra.co.nz) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[02:47:02]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-154-232-2.adsl.xtra.co.nz) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:47:53]

rtsai:

Make sure the user running mythtv has rw permissions on /dev/dsp, either as owner, or (more likely) as group (e.g., being a member of the "audio" group, or however your distro has things set up)

[02:48:00]

ricochet:

rtsai, the debian package

[02:48:09]

rtsai:

what does ls -l /dev/dsp show?

[02:50:24]

ricochet:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2005-06–04 12:27 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0

[02:50:38]

rtsai:

ok, what does ls -lL /dev/dsp show?

[02:51:00]

ricochet:

crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 3 2005-06–04 12:27 /dev/dsp

[02:51:03]

rtsai:

ok good

[02:51:31]

rtsai:

so mplayer audio works but not mythtv?

[02:51:52]

ricochet:

yep

[02:52:09]

ricochet:

mplayer /dev/video0 plays audio

[02:52:31]

rtsai:

are you having problems with mythtv tvrecordings, or mythmusic, or what?

[02:52:59]

rtsai:

(what kinds of things don't have sound?)

[02:53:11]

ricochet:

I didn't mean it doesnt player video too :)

[02:53:24]

ricochet:

having a problem with live tv and recordings

[02:53:41]

rtsai:

so nothing tv related works

[02:53:49]

rtsai:

(no recoridng, and therefore nothing to play back?)

[02:54:35]

ricochet:

video plays

[02:54:52]

ricochet:

just not audio

[02:55:09]

rtsai:

what kind of capture card are you using?

[02:55:16]

ricochet:

PVR-250

[02:55:48]

rtsai:

don't those require looping soundcard output or some such?

[02:55:58]

ricochet:

I'm using my optical out too, so I send it to plug:iec958

[02:56:26]

rtsai:

what output device did you configure with mythtv?

[02:56:28]

rtsai:

for audio?

[02:56:31]

rtsai:

I have /dev/dsp on mine.

[02:56:35]

rtsai:

(optical out)

[02:57:29]

ricochet:

I have /dev/dsp configured. I tried the alsa plug:ice958 thing (which I have kde using)

[02:57:48]

ricochet:

nope, there is not loop-to-audio

[02:57:58]

ricochet:

loop to the soundcard

[02:58:00]

rtsai:

I mean, your "Audio output device" in the Setup:General screen says "/dev/dsp", and that doesn't work?

[02:58:13]

ricochet:

correct

[02:58:35]

rtsai:

is the pvr-250 the one with the tv-out, or are you using a video card for that?

[02:59:09]

ricochet:

I'm using the video card. the encoder & decoder is the pvr-350

[02:59:13]

Juski (Juski!n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust7.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has quit (""It's not just the music it's the BEAT"")

[02:59:45]

rtsai:

and the "do you have the "Use internal volume controls" box checked?

[02:59:58]

ricochet:

so what about the --enable-oss thing? what program wants that argument?

[03:00:19]

rtsai:

that's a compile flag, so it shouldn'affect you. If you run "mythfrontend --version", you should see "using_oss using_alsa"

[03:00:32]

rtsai:

the debian stuff should have pretty mcuh everything turned on...

[03:00:52]

ricochet:

$ mythfrontend --version

[03:00:52]

ricochet:

0.18.1.20050510–1

[03:01:12]

rtsai:

ah

[03:01:17]

rtsai:

not the latest and greatest

[03:01:20]

rtsai:

that's fine

[03:01:27]

rtsai:

what kernel version?

[03:01:36]

ricochet:

2.6

[03:01:44]

rtsai:

do you have a /proc/config.gz?

[03:01:52]

rtsai:

self-built, or pre-built?

[03:02:13]

ricochet:

2.6.14-1–686 #1 debian kernel

[03:02:22]

rtsai:

what I'm getting at is that mplayer can probably do native ALSA, but mythtv requires ALSA emulation of OSS. So let's make sure your kernel has OSS support

[03:02:36]

ricochet:

no config.gz

[03:02:39]

rage- (rage-!n=rage@0-2pool242-168.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[03:02:54]

rtsai:

how about "lsmod | grep snd"

[03:04:04]

narf:

so I added bob interleaving and it reduced my cpu load by 40%, is this normal?

[03:04:43]

ricochet:

rtsai, how do you want that output? can I paste here?

[03:04:50]

rtsai:

i guess you can pastebin it

[03:04:51]

ricochet:

I see _oss things

[03:04:56]

rtsai:

yeah, that's what i was looking for

[03:05:10]

rtsai:

snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss

[03:05:13]

ricochet:

theres snd_mixer_oss, snd_pcm_oss, etc

[03:05:45]

ricochet:

snd_pcm_oss 55040 0

[03:05:50]

Beirdo:

mythtv doesn't require OSS emulation, it can be compiled for native ALSA last I looked

[03:05:53]

ricochet:

not sure if the 0 is significant

[03:06:15]

rtsai:

Beirdo: 0.18?

[03:06:30]

Beirdo:

pretty sure

[03:06:31]

rtsai:

ricochet: the "0" just means nothing is playing audio right now :)

[03:06:41]

ricochet:

ok

[03:06:47]

Beirdo:

but OSS definitely worked in 0.18 :)

[03:07:14]

rtsai:

the last thing I can think of is to go back to the "Audio output" page and "use internal volume controls", and make sure the master volume isn't set to 0% or anything dumb like that

[03:07:24]

rtsai:

ricochet: otherwise, I'm tapped out. Good luck.

[03:07:55]

rtsai:

narf: who cares? Just take it and run :)

[03:08:01]

ricochet:

rtsai, this is in my .asoundrc:pcm.!default {

[03:08:01]

ricochet:

type plug

[03:08:01]

ricochet:

type hw

[03:08:01]

ricochet:

card 0

[03:08:01]

ricochet:

device 4

[03:08:03]

ricochet:

}

[03:08:11]

narf:

lol

[03:08:39]

narf:

XvMC + Bob = :-D

[03:08:45]

rtsai:

ricochet: I don't have any .asoundrc; I have no clue how to configure that file; I'm glad my system works without having one.

[03:09:07]

ricochet:

rtsai, it was to get the optical to be default, IIRC

[03:09:17]

rtsai:

my optical was already default, I guess.

[03:09:22]

ricochet:

hm

[03:09:25]

mipster (mipster!n=mipster@24-197-144-90.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com) has quit ("Computer goes to sleep!")

[03:09:25]

ricochet:

ok, thanks.

[03:09:29]

rtsai:

sorry

[03:09:56]

rtsai:

is this onboard sound?

[03:10:01]

rtsai:

or a separate soundcard?

[03:10:09]

ricochet:

uhh, its on my MB

[03:10:16]

ricochet:

intel

[03:10:19]

rtsai:

and it has both analog and optical out?

[03:10:22]

ricochet:

yep

[03:10:45]

rtsai:

I remember when I was first setting up my system, all my audio was actually giong out through the audio ports. I don't remember what I did to change it though.,

[03:11:01]

rtsai:

Have you at least checked the analog ports with cheap desktop speakers or something just to see if that's what's happening?

[03:11:10]

rtsai:

at least you'll know exactly what it is that needs fixing ...

[03:11:16]

rtsai:

^audio^analog

[03:11:31]

ricochet:

I think that is how I used to have it setup (back when mythtv worked)

[03:11:55]

ricochet:

I think I was using alsa then too

[03:13:50]

ricochet:

what is "enable AC3 to SPDIF passthought"?

[03:13:56]

kal (kal!i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[03:14:00]

rtsai:

I have it turned off.

[03:14:10]

rtsai:

I think it lets your receiver decode the audio instaed of your computer

[03:14:16]

ricochet:

oh

[03:14:18]

rtsai:

What does "amixer sget 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'" report on your system

[03:14:32]

rtsai:

[Can you try turning it off?]

[03:15:05]

ricochet:

Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0

[03:15:05]

ricochet:

Capabilities: volume volume-joined

[03:15:05]

ricochet:

Playback channels: Mono

[03:15:05]

ricochet:

Capture channels: Mono

[03:15:05]

ricochet:

Limits: 0 – 3

[03:15:05]

ricochet:

Mono: 3 [100%]

[03:15:18]

rtsai:

Ah. Do this: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0

[03:15:22]

rtsai:

I have to do that o my system.

[03:15:31]

Beirdo:

pastebin is your friend, BTW

[03:16:00]

rtsai:

Beirdo: are we filling up your IRC logs? There's no one else here.

[03:16:00]

ricochet:

Beirdo, sorry

[03:16:03]

rtsai:

:)

[03:16:05]

Beirdo:

hehe

[03:16:14]

Beirdo:

it's not too bad right now, just something to remember :)

[03:16:29]

Beirdo:

bah, no kormoc.

[03:16:31]

rtsai:

ricochet: yeah, I think "3" is mute, and "0" is "full volume"; I just did that test here.

[03:16:37]

Beirdo:

he must have a life tonight.

[03:16:42]

ricochet:

rtsai, still no audio

[03:16:43]

rtsai:

Try that "set" command I gave you and see if your audio works

[03:16:44]

rtsai:

bah

[03:17:36]

rtsai:

That amixer command is the last bit of black magic I have. I have no clue about setting up audio otherwise.

[03:17:37]

ricochet:

I have kde using alsa & plug:iec958

[03:17:40]

rtsai:

I don't use kde

[03:17:57]

ricochet:

I was just gonna say that it plays audio

[03:18:05]

rtsai:

how about you rename your .asoundrc to something else, do the "amixer ... 0" and see if that works?

[03:18:27]

rtsai:

yeah, I think just there's something somewhere telling myth to do something else.

[03:18:38]

rtsai:

that doesn't affect mplayer, etc.

[03:19:04]

** Beirdo considers doing the ubuntu install tonight.... **

[03:19:52]

jnunez:

Hey Beirdo

[03:19:57]

Beirdo:

hey

[03:20:25]

rtsai:

linode – isn't $20/mo. kind of expensive?

[03:20:28]

jnunez:

Thinking of an NForce4 AMD 64 MB with integrated video have you heard of any issues with MythTV?

[03:20:42]

Beirdo:

haven't heard of any

[03:21:06]

Beirdo:

they have what? 6600 or something integrated?

[03:21:17]

Beirdo:

gah

[03:21:23]

Beirdo:

stupid prebuffering!?

[03:21:26]

Beirdo:

not again

[03:21:34]

jnunez:

6150

[03:21:55]

jnunez:

the 50 includes svideo which I currently use for debugging

[03:21:58]

tate (tate!n=tate@fmgh12-196.2wcm.comporium.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:22:02]

Beirdo:

heh

[03:22:22]

Beirdo:

well, I haven't heard of anyone trying it, but it might work just swimmingly

[03:22:39]

Beirdo:

as long as the nvidia drivers support it, I guess

[03:22:49]

Beirdo:

I don't even use an nvidia card at this point

[03:22:53]

jnunez:

prebuffing issues? What is happening? I have a PVR-150 that will lock up after 2 secs of LiveTV but will record without a problem

[03:22:54]

tate:

my installation of mythtv has this really harsh audio echo to it. Has anyone else had this happen to them?

[03:23:19]

Beirdo:

jnunez, oh it's just being an occasional pain on playback

[03:23:41]

Beirdo:

tate: check the documentation about setting up the mixer

[03:23:58]

tate:

excellent advice, thanks

[03:25:37]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[03:25:59]

xpis (xpis!n=xpis@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:30:29]

SlicerDicer- (SlicerDicer-!n=Slicer@macceketh.org) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[03:31:32]

SlicerDicer- (SlicerDicer-!n=Slicer@70.89.135.154) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:34:13]

mk500 (mk500!n=mk500@netblock-72-25-104-105.dslextreme.com) has quit ()

[03:34:53]

xpis (xpis!n=xpis@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[03:35:20]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:35:45]

braniff (braniff!n=asdfasdf@unaffiliated/braniff) has quit ("Leaving")

[03:36:06]

wwalker:

what kind of video quality can I expect? I've got a bt878 analog card right now and the quality is shaky at best.

[03:36:13]

Krazylegz (Krazylegz!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[03:36:42]

wwalker:

Has anyone had both a bt8x8 and then a PVR-150 or 350? Was there a great difference in picture quality?

[03:37:27]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:37:38]

achew22:

Hey all!

[03:38:10]

jnunez:

is the WinTV a bt8x8? If so then yes the quality is better but I was running it on an older PC

[03:39:07]

achew22:

are there any tutorials out there that will point me in the right direction for nuvexport to mpg without commercials?

[03:39:25]

Beirdo:

tutorial?

[03:39:39]

Beirdo:

create your cutlist for the show

[03:39:44]

Beirdo:

then run nuvexport

[03:39:48]

jnunez:

achew22: Do you mean outside of the MythTV editor interface

[03:39:56]

achew22:

yes

[03:40:16]

achew22:

use the the autoflag commercials list that it makes automaticly to cut commercials

[03:40:20]

jnunez:

Sorry I have no experience with it

[03:40:24]

Beirdo:

eek

[03:40:25]

achew22:

too bad

[03:40:32]

Beirdo:

I wouldn't trust autocut

[03:40:49]

achew22:

I have been using mythtv on the news for 2 weeks on the news and it hasn't screwed up yet (I do 2 news shows a night)

[03:40:51]

Beirdo:

get it to flag and then create the cutlist in the editor, make sure it's right

[03:40:59]

Beirdo:

OK, fine

[03:41:00]

achew22:

so thats what 20 shows without error so

[03:41:04]

jnunez:

I always go over it if it's a show that I am keeping (my daughter's Dora shows)

[03:41:07]

Beirdo:

if it works for you...

[03:41:26]

achew22:

if I screw up the cut on the news then I watch the news without commercials (replayed at 10)

[03:41:28]

Beirdo:

anyways, bring up a shell, and run nuvexport

[03:41:34]

Beirdo:

it's not rocket science

[03:41:48]

jnunez:

Beirdo: News shows might be better because they usually have sharp cuts to ads

[03:41:48]

achew22:

okay... thankyou — just looking for a tutorial and to see if someone had made one

[03:41:56]

achew22:

very sharp

[03:42:02]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[03:42:18]

Beirdo:

jnunez, yeah, true, and few all-black scenes to fool things, etc

[03:42:29]

Beirdo:

Hmmm

[03:42:38]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:42:42]

Beirdo:

do I want to install ubuntu on my fileserver tonight?

[03:43:02]

mchou:

Beirdo: best time to install

[03:43:08]

Beirdo:

heh

[03:43:13]

jnunez:

How easy is the MythTV install on ubuntu?

[03:43:19]

mchou:

files get d/l overnight while you sleep

[03:43:26]

Kelerion:

*seriously* easy

[03:43:28]

Beirdo:

ummm, download?

[03:43:39]

Beirdo:

installing from CD

[03:43:44]

mchou:

Beirdo: yeah, I use net install :)

[03:43:45]

jnunez:

How's AMD64 on ubuntu?

[03:43:52]

nasa (nasa!n=smithna@c-68-35-188-180.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[03:43:53]

Beirdo:

jnunez, works great

[03:43:56]

achew22:

junez very easy — look at this tutorial http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html if your good with linux you can get it going in 2 hours

[03:44:01]

Beirdo:

got two of em here

[03:44:03]

achew22:

it has 64bit info in there too

[03:44:06]

jnunez:

cool.

[03:44:09]

achew22:

really easy

[03:44:30]

achew22:

remember when it tells you to apt-get install mythtv go to section 9.2 and compile the new binaries insead of getting .18.1

[03:44:36]

Beirdo:

the problem is, I want to have the nfsd up before I go to bed

[03:44:43]

jnunez:

I've done Linux from Scratch (but the Xorg killed me)

[03:44:51]

mchou:

Beirdo: what for?

[03:45:00]

Beirdo:

it's my FILESERVER!

[03:45:02]

mchou:

you wont be using nfs while you sleep

[03:45:03]

Beirdo:

jeez

[03:45:07]

Beirdo:

yes I will

[03:45:15]

Beirdo:

mythtv records while I sleep

[03:45:21]

mchou:

lol

[03:46:09]

Beirdo:

sometimes I wonder about you, mchou :)

[03:46:35]

mchou:

Beirdo: sometime I wonder about you, Beirdo :)

[03:46:51]

Beirdo:

bought a new 80G Seagate IDE for the system disk

[03:46:53]

jnunez:

achew22: Thanks for the URL. This falls right into what I am building right now.

[03:47:03]

achew22:

yep its pretty much amazing

[03:47:03]

Beirdo:

ah screw it.

[03:47:12]

achew22:

;)

[03:47:14]

Beirdo:

if I miss some recordings tonight, I'll live, I'm gonna do it

[03:47:24]

mchou:

Beirdo: exactly :)

[03:47:51]

** Beirdo grabs a Breezy CD from the shipment he received **

[03:48:07]

Beirdo:

guess I'd better shut down the backend processes again

[03:48:07]

mchou:

Beirdo: CC had seagates 300GB for $30AR this wk

[03:48:27]

mchou:

sorry, 200GB

[03:48:27]

Beirdo:

$30?

[03:48:30]

Beirdo:

heh

[03:48:35]

wasabi_ (wasabi_!n=wasabi@c-67-166-206-241.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:48:35]

mchou:

yeah, no joke

[03:48:36]

Beirdo:

and I don't do rebates

[03:48:38]

Beirdo:

heh

[03:48:42]

wasabi_:

Heya. My MythVideo isn't saving it's settings.

[03:48:52]

Beirdo:

I have 4 200G IDE Seagates just decommissioned :)

[03:49:14]

wasabi_:

So no matter what i set my video dir to, it's reset.

[03:49:18]

wasabi_:

Any ideas what's up with that?

[03:49:27]

mchou:

Beirdo: send them over here :)

[03:49:43]

Beirdo:

they WERE in my fileserver until this morning

[03:49:44]

Beirdo:

heh

[03:50:01]

Beirdo:

got the RAID all up and running (4 * 300G Seagate SATA)

[03:50:14]

Beirdo:

got all the data moved over (LVM++) :)

[03:50:26]

mchou:

LVM++??

[03:50:27]

Beirdo:

now I'm gonna go fuck it all up by installing a new OS

[03:50:29]

Beirdo:

yes

[03:50:33]

wasabi_:

i just decommissioned 3 sata drives, about 500gb total.

[03:50:33]

Beirdo:

as in LVM rules

[03:50:34]

mchou:

wth is that?

[03:50:37]

wasabi_:

Replaced with two 400GBs

[03:50:40]

wasabi_:

same. LVM. ;)

[03:50:51]

wasabi_:

So now my total is 4x160GB + 2x400GB

[03:50:52]

Beirdo:

LVM over RAID rules

[03:50:56]

wasabi_:

I use evms.

[03:51:08]

Beirdo:

anyways, I'm gonna go break my fileserver

[03:51:14]

Beirdo:

be back in a bit

[03:52:20]

wasabi_:

So any idea about the settings?

[03:52:26]

wasabi_:

Where does mythtvvideo store its settings?

[03:52:45]

Krazylegz (Krazylegz!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:52:46]

mchou:

in the DB, duh

[03:53:08]

wasabi_:

I would think it would error if it was unable to store them there

[03:55:03]

wasabi_:

Hmm. The settings are saved correctly in the DB

[03:55:11]

wasabi_:

But when I pull up the settings interface on screen, they're wrong

[03:55:17]

wasabi_:

and it's not finding my videos.

[03:55:20]

astate (astate!n=astateof@12.10.108.109) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:56:20]

astate:

do I need to set up ALSA on a PC that's just a backend with a hauppauge 150, or will sound recording work without it?

[03:57:11]

wasabi_:

I suspect alsa will be required to cpature sound from the TV tuner

[03:57:23]

seme|Home (seme|Home!n=seme|Hom@cpe-24-168-159-197.nj.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:57:25]

wasabi_:

it'll probably show up as a normla audio in device

[03:57:29]

rtsai:

wasabi_: you have to go into the video manager (setup) first, for it to rescan your videos

[03:57:43]

wasabi_:

rtsai: I know, but it finds nothing, and when I go back to the settings, they're reset to defaults.

[03:57:45]

seme|Home:

can anyone help me figure out why all my movies play in french... if I play them directly with mplayer or any other player they play in english

[03:57:45]

Cardoe:

astate: sound will work without alsa

[03:57:55]

astate:

thanks

[03:59:50]

daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@70-41-156-188.cust.wildblue.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[04:01:46]

achew22:

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH my friends party (which I blew off to go skiing) got busted! 35 cops raided his house! AMAZING

[04:03:05]

_rjune:

how old is your friend?

[04:03:26]

_rjune:

and why did the cops show up?

[04:03:31]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")

[04:03:52]

CyberGlitch2 (CyberGlitch2!n=jsievert@216-243-131-195.static.iphouse.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[04:04:36]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:04:44]

frobnic (frobnic!i=fb@p508BD6F6.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:05:06]

ricochet (ricochet!n=ricochet@adsl-69-107-73-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[04:07:05]

seme|Home:

is it possible to swich the audio track of the playing video?

[04:07:57]

kal (kal!i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:10:17]

wwalker:

achew22: ???

[04:10:30]

achew22:

sorry — reading

[04:10:35]

achew22:

me <21

[04:10:42]

seme|Home:

argg... I switch the player from Internal to xine as teh doc says and it has horrible integration but at least it works...

[04:10:50]

seme|Home:

is anyone even using the "Internal" player?

[04:11:00]

achew22:

there isn't an internal player... is there?

[04:11:14]

achew22:

i thought it just used some other program that wasn't xine

[04:11:16]

jams:

yes there is

[04:11:37]

seme|Home:

yeah there is an "Internal" player which I think uses mplayer but I'm not sure

[04:11:38]

achew22:

why was it setup with mplayer by default on my box then?

[04:12:04]

jams:

because mplayer is still the default setting

[04:12:17]

achew22:

then it uses mplayer to play it and its not internal...

[04:12:24]

seme|Home:

thats what it was on my box too... but the "Internal" player has nicer integration such as teh menu support, etc

[04:12:49]

seme|Home:

just replace the mplayer config with "Internal" in the video player config

[04:12:51]

jams:

achew22- right if your using mplayer that is the case. However Myth can use it's own internal player to play videos

[04:13:04]

seme|Home:

jams are you using the internal player

[04:13:10]

jams:

I have

[04:13:10]

achew22:

jams how do I do that?

[04:13:23]

achew22:

clear the box for it?

[04:13:26]

seme|Home:

achew22: be careful... it isn't working to well for me

[04:13:32]

achew22:

ohh — nevermind

[04:13:33]

seme|Home:

no change it to "Internal"

[04:13:41]

achew22:

i'll play with ti

[04:13:52]

jams:

achew22- it's in the mythvideo settings. clear the box and type Internal. be sure to write down what was there before you clear the box.

[04:14:07]

achew22:

are there commandline switches for nuvexport?

[04:14:15]

jams:

yes

[04:14:19]

achew22:

sweet...

[04:16:10]

frobnic_ (frobnic_!i=fb@p508BDCF6.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[04:22:15]

achew22:

jams you seem to be the expert tonight, when I setup userjob #1 how do I tell the command the filename?

[04:27:35]

sphing_:

achew22: look at the docs theres a list of all the options

[04:29:37]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-154-232-2.adsl.xtra.co.nz) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[04:34:54]

jnunez:

Ok any suggestions for online hardware stores?

[04:35:23]

bendix (bendix!n=bendix@28.119.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:38:10]

jams:

achew22- %FILE%

[04:38:21]

achew22:

i found it

[04:38:34]

achew22:

actualy found a tutorial to do the userjob part on the wiki too

[04:47:05]

tate:

Okay, after consulting the documentation I still have hte same problem. I set Line as the capture and muted it and I still get this ~2 second delay/wecho

[04:48:06]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")

[04:48:11]

jnunez (jnunez!n=jnunez@ool-43519335.dyn.optonline.net) has quit ()

[04:51:53]

jams:

tate start playing with the controls, some cards need a few more options set

[04:52:17]

slowburn (slowburn!n=zap@adsl-71-135-114-232.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:52:23]

jams:

by controls I mean mixer controls

[04:53:21]

myNOOBtv (myNOOBtv!n=pvrmyth@c-24-99-154-175.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:53:32]

myNOOBtv (myNOOBtv!n=pvrmyth@c-24-99-154-175.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[04:54:11]

myNOOBtv (myNOOBtv!n=pvrmyth@c-24-99-154-175.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:54:58]

myNOOBtv:

good evening, everyone (well it's evening here )

[04:55:14]

tate:

I'm tinkering with it, seeing if aux or capture is the culprit

[04:55:31]

tate:

So far those two aren't the answer

[04:57:58]

electrichamster (electrichamster!n=jonty@adsl-83-100-231-125.karoo.KCOM.COM) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:58:35]

myNOOBtv:

any PVR 150 users on atm?

[05:00:33]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:01:11]

myNOOBtv:

Has anyone fixed the PVR150 working only after cold boot problem?

[05:03:56]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[05:09:12]

tate:

I have two audio streams going right, in the feadback myth gives me in the console it tells me on two seperate lines "Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'" and then "Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'"

[05:09:49]

tate:

Is it possible that this alsa and oss thing is an issue. I know I am getting the Line-in audio as well as the digitally processed audio from mythtv

[05:12:24]

electrichamster (electrichamster!n=jonty@adsl-83-100-231-125.karoo.KCOM.COM) has quit (Client Quit)

[05:14:00]

kal (kal!i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[05:15:41]

nosun (nosun!n=PDP@S010600500453f25a.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:16:05]

tate:

Okay, I really don't see what could be causing this outside of it being a bug

[05:16:06]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:16:22]

nosun:

anyone know any good tutorials for installing myth tv on fedora core 4?

[05:16:27]

achew22:

yes

[05:16:30]

achew22:

one min for the link

[05:16:41]

nosun:

thanx

[05:16:41]

nosun:

;)

[05:16:49]

achew22:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/

[05:16:51]

achew22:

there you go

[05:18:00]

achew22:

yeah — thats RC4

[05:18:28]

buddy (buddy!n=buddyv@host-206-54-195-175.entouch.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:18:52]

buddy:

Good Evening :)

[05:18:57]

achew22:

FC4*

[05:19:02]

achew22:

evening

[05:19:06]

achew22:

how are you doing buddy

[05:19:20]

buddy:

ok and you

[05:19:55]

achew22:

I'm doing well... I have to read hamlet but other than that i'm good

[05:20:32]

buddy:

I have a question

[05:20:37]

nosun:

no offence but that website loses me

[05:20:38]

nosun:

:S

[05:21:03]

nosun:

but hey I'm reading

[05:21:04]

nosun:

:p

[05:21:12]

buddy:

I have just done a NEW install of MthTv

[05:21:20]

myNOOBtv:

Nosun think of it like this....

[05:21:31]

myNOOBtv:

get your video card working with it's drivers

[05:21:39]

myNOOBtv:

then get the capture card working

[05:21:52]

myNOOBtv:

then try to install mythTV with yum

[05:21:55]

buddy:

no updates no touching of anything but the mythtv-setup and mythfilldatabase questions

[05:21:59]

nosun:

the video card part is done;)

[05:22:03]

nosun:

nvidia

[05:22:04]

myNOOBtv:

the guide is not perfect

[05:22:10]

myNOOBtv:

congrats :)

[05:22:22]

buddy:

well sort of :)

[05:22:25]

nosun:

that I had a idea I would need to do though;)

[05:22:32]

nosun:

as for the cap cards

[05:22:34]

nosun:

I dunno

[05:22:41]

myNOOBtv:

which card do you have?

[05:22:43]

nosun:

I think I will try getting one going first then 2

[05:22:43]

buddy:

I ONLY see tv video in the mythphone option

[05:22:44]

nosun:

:p

[05:22:58]

nosun:

Zoltrix TV Max

[05:22:59]

myNOOBtv:

it's just as easy to do both at once honestly

[05:23:15]

nosun:

the other is based on same shit

[05:23:16]

buddy:

what do I need to do to have mythphone stop useing the tv turner?

[05:23:16]

myNOOBtv:

is that an IVTV driver card?

[05:23:20]

nosun:

so should work with same drivers

[05:23:31]

nosun:

give sec

[05:23:37]

nosun:

got to google IVTV:P

[05:23:42]

nosun:

dunno what that is;)

[05:23:48]

myNOOBtv:

hehe nvm I'll google your card

[05:24:03]

nosun:

its based on bt434 or something

[05:24:04]

nosun:

give sec

[05:24:41]

_rjune (_rjune!n=rjune@oh-67-76-200-198.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[05:24:50]

achew22:

Does anyone in here know why it says processed: 19364 of 53835 frames (35.97%), 13.19 fps

[05:24:57]

achew22:

but is obviously not running at that speed

[05:26:01]

myNOOBtv:

nosun: looks like your card is not a hardware MPEG enc card so what type/speed is your CPU?

[05:26:17]

nosun:

600mhz

[05:26:32]

nosun:

I can get a max of 1ghz as a system to do this on;)

[05:27:14]

nosun:

oh by the way I also have a MSI TV@nywhere but I doubt its supported

[05:27:16]

_rjune (_rjune!n=rjune@oh-67-76-200-198.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:27:18]

nosun:

cause its a piece of shit

[05:27:19]

nosun:

;)

[05:27:23]

nosun:

I think

[05:28:03]

buddyv (buddyv!n=buddyv@host-206-54-195-175.entouch.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:28:10]

myNOOBtv:

lol

[05:28:12]

myNOOBtv:

um

[05:28:16]

buddyv:

doh hir wrong key

[05:28:19]

myNOOBtv:

check this out nosun...

[05:28:20]

myNOOBtv:

Brook Tree

[05:28:20]

myNOOBtv:

Brook Tree is the manufacturer of the bttv set of video capture chipsets. Many of these cards also provide audio capabilities supported by the btaudio drivers. These cards are software driven components in that they rely on the computer processor to handle much of the load, unlike the Haupauge PVR series of hardware encoders. As a result, a processor closer to 1Ghz is needed to capture using one of these cards, especially for

[05:28:20]

myNOOBtv:

Live TV viewing since that involves both encoding and decoding at the same time.

[05:28:25]

buddyv:

doh hit wrong key

[05:28:47]

myNOOBtv:

so if your at 600MHz you need more cpu :/

[05:28:55]

achew22:

get a hardware encoder

[05:29:02]

myNOOBtv:

aye

[05:29:16]

nosun:

as I said I have a MSI TV@nywhere but :P

[05:29:20]

nosun:

its newer

[05:29:23]

nosun:

alot newer;)

[05:29:34]

nosun:

but I question its compatibility

[05:29:36]

achew22:

I got a pvr-150 for 49.99$ at comp usa a couple of weeks ago

[05:29:40]

achew22:

look on the list

[05:29:59]

nosun:

I'm not currently in a state in which I can spend much money

[05:30:04]

mchou:

achew22: wow, they've come down to $50?

[05:30:08]

buddyv:

would anyone know why I have live TV in mythphone option and not in the tv option?

[05:30:10]

achew22:

it was on sale

[05:30:15]

myNOOBtv:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116625

[05:30:17]

nosun:

yes I know though

[05:30:17]

nosun:

:p

[05:30:21]

myNOOBtv:

$87

[05:30:25]

mchou:

achew22: yeah, that's what I meant

[05:30:45]

nosun:

you guys know if the msi TV@nywhere is compat?

[05:30:54]

achew22:

it was a 40$ mail in with a 10 $ instant rebate so it was 90 on the spot but i paid tax on 100$

[05:31:04]

nosun:

as I said my thoughts are no... but I'm still not sure:P

[05:31:16]

stang (stang!n=mustang@ip68-97-59-58.ok.ok.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:31:22]

myNOOBtv:

holy crap that is sweet Achew22

[05:31:27]

mchou:

achew22: was it a pvr 150MCE or pvr-150?

[05:31:32]

achew22:

regular one

[05:31:34]

myNOOBtv:

I avoid them 'cause of price normally

[05:31:48]

achew22:

but I had more remotes from my 250 and the 150 I bought before

[05:31:59]

mchou:

achew22: so it came with the "regular" remote?

[05:32:04]

achew22:

I bought it because it was so cheep — I don't really have a slot for it on any computers

[05:32:08]

achew22:

mce doesn't have remote does it

[05:32:24]

mchou:

I dont think mce ver has remote

[05:32:34]

achew22:

it had a remote and the remote cables

[05:32:38]

achew22:

it was the full retail

[05:32:39]

mchou:

yeah

[05:32:49]

mchou:

that's a good deal for $50

[05:32:57]

achew22:

is anyone in here good with lirc?

[05:33:00]

myNOOBtv:

I was reading about getting a IR KB/mouse combo and a learning remote so no Lirc or config at all just point the KB at the remote

[05:33:20]

achew22:

those remotes are expensive

[05:33:27]

achew22:

only reason I wouldn't want to do that

[05:33:32]

myNOOBtv:

$50 or so right?

[05:33:36]

achew22:

yeah

[05:33:39]

mchou:

yeah, those remotes are a rip

[05:33:52]

achew22:

it was 97$ (40$ mailin) with tax or something like that

[05:33:57]

nosun:

f'ing piece of shit redhat won't load no more:(

[05:34:01]

nosun:

fedora rather

[05:34:04]

myNOOBtv:

the remote from my receiver learns so I was thinking I'd try it

[05:34:09]

achew22:

hit it with a bat....

[05:34:13]

mchou:

if you gat a learning remote get one of those JP1 thingies

[05:34:35]

achew22:

look at prices

[05:34:36]

mchou:

got*

[05:34:41]

buddyv:

would anyone know why I have live TV in mythphone option and not in the tv option? PLEASE HELP

[05:34:42]

achew22:

if its cheaper to do that then do that otherwise go the lirc path

[05:34:50]

achew22:

in the option?

[05:35:00]

achew22:

buddyv are you talking about the menu?

[05:36:06]

achew22:

and then there was silence...

[05:36:08]

Beirdo:

OK

[05:36:10]

myNOOBtv:

lol

[05:36:15]

Beirdo:

fileserver now running Breezy

[05:36:23]

nosun:

whats the diff http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.a . . . 1&catid=

[05:36:24]

Beirdo:

got a lot of reconfiguring to do tomorrow :)

[05:36:25]

nosun:

and

[05:36:27]

achew22:

is it ubuntu?

[05:36:30]

nosun:

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.a . . . 3&catid=

[05:36:37]

Beirdo:

but NFS was up before the first recording was scheduled

[05:36:41]

mchou:

Beirdo: reconfiguring for what?

[05:36:51]

Beirdo:

mchou, are you daft?

[05:37:04]

Beirdo:

it was running FC1, and I just installed the OS all over again

[05:37:06]

narf:

nosun: check here http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cardlist.BTTV

[05:37:14]

buddyv (buddyv!n=buddyv@host-206-54-195-175.entouch.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[05:37:14]

Beirdo:

gotta reconfigure all the services that were on it

[05:37:15]

achew22:

0665000FS10068303 is different

[05:37:17]

mchou:

Beirdo: what's there to reconfigure on a file server?

[05:37:24]

achew22:

the last 5 digets

[05:37:35]

mchou:

specify the IP addr, nfs exports, you done

[05:37:41]

achew22:

nosun the last 5 chars before &catid= are different

[05:37:41]

myNOOBtv:

that one has a MUCH better remote nosun

[05:37:44]

Beirdo:

samba

[05:37:47]

Beirdo:

for instance

[05:37:48]

achew22:

ohh lol

[05:37:51]

achew22:

damnit

[05:37:59]

Beirdo:

and the many other things that run in the background

[05:38:06]

achew22:

i feel dumb — string comparsion is what I'm doing in my classes so I compaired the strings...

[05:38:14]

Beirdo:

like the RAID manager software, etc

[05:38:20]

myNOOBtv:

lol

[05:38:39]

achew22:

it was a long day today — I fell off a cliff when I was skiing

[05:38:43]

mchou:

Beirdo: why did you decide to move to ubuntu?

[05:38:50]

Beirdo:

because I like it

[05:38:55]

achew22:

ubuntu is sexy mchou

[05:38:59]

mchou:

Beirdo: FC was finally driving you nuts?

[05:39:12]

Octane (Octane!i=Octane@66-234-34-251.nyc.cable.nyct.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[05:39:14]

Beirdo:

FC1 is ancient :)

[05:39:15]

myNOOBtv:

*thinks achew22 is the flying tomato*

[05:39:37]

mchou:

I dont think ubuntu is sexy at all. Was pretty crippled last time I checked it out

[05:39:37]

achew22:

hardly — i'm more like a flying cabbage. when I hit the ground I roll for a while and get ripped to peaces

[05:39:40]

narf:

you mean the flying spaghetti monster?

[05:39:43]

tate (tate!n=tate@fmgh12-196.2wcm.comporium.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[05:39:58]

achew22:

i'm a pastafarian — arent you?

[05:40:06]

narf:

of course

[05:40:19]

achew22:

don't speak ill of my lord. compairing him with me doesn't do him justice. (even though I am pretty awesome)

[05:40:24]

myNOOBtv:

I make my own past with my kitchenAid rollers :)

[05:40:47]

myNOOBtv:

ok THAT was the most gay thing I ever typed in IRC

[05:41:03]

** Beirdo boots the PVR in the bolts **

[05:41:10]

Beirdo:

it won't go back to console

[05:41:11]

Beirdo:

heh

[05:41:34]

mchou:

Wy the hell did ATT announce on a Sunday?

[05:41:50]

myNOOBtv:

sunday news shows

[05:41:59]

myNOOBtv:

investors watching them

[05:42:16]

myNOOBtv:

just a guess

[05:42:21]

mchou:

they didnt announce in the morning. They did it in the evening

[05:42:22]

Beirdo:

great

[05:42:27]

achew22:

ATT = AT&T right?

[05:42:29]

Beirdo:

stupid stupid stupid

[05:42:33]

myNOOBtv:

ja

[05:42:33]

mchou:

achew22: yeah

[05:42:35]

achew22:

i'm really glad sbc switched to use the name ATT because ATT is better known

[05:42:45]

Beirdo:

I buggered the text console on the PVR. I rule

[05:42:49]

mchou:

achew22: it that the dealio? :)

[05:43:05]

mchou:

achew22: more like sbc sux

[05:43:05]

achew22:

yeah — no more sbc

[05:43:08]

myNOOBtv:

what dist +Beirdo?

[05:43:20]

achew22:

Beirdo is running ubuntu breasy

[05:43:20]

narf:

hmm i use SBC ... i mean ...

[05:43:28]

Beirdo:

not on the PVR I'm not

[05:43:28]

myNOOBtv:

*shrugs*

[05:43:29]

achew22:

SBC == att;

[05:43:31]

Beirdo:

it's running FC1

[05:43:38]

achew22:

FC1?!

[05:43:41]

achew22:

why not upgrade

[05:43:43]

myNOOBtv:

do you get a free bowl of soup with that?

[05:43:43]

narf:

more like SBC = ATT

[05:43:55]

buddy (buddy!n=buddyv@host-206-54-195-175.entouch.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[05:44:00]

mchou:

he just upgraded

[05:44:06]

** Beirdo pokes achew22 with a stick **

[05:44:18]

Beirdo:

you don't upgrade a working system without good reason

[05:44:22]

achew22:

yummy i like stick... errr... I didn't say that

[05:44:27]

myNOOBtv:

riddle me this batman.....

[05:44:29]

Beirdo:

I just upgraded my fileserver

[05:44:48]

Beirdo:

[gjhurlbu@pint gjhurlbu]$ uptime

[05:44:49]

Beirdo:

00:44:41 up 394 days, 22:08, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.09, 0.09

[05:44:53]

myNOOBtv:

last bug for my install is that I can only cold boot warm boot makes IvTv die

[05:45:05]

myNOOBtv:

but a cold boot fixes it

[05:45:05]

Beirdo:

and that's another reason it pisses me off that I buggered the console

[05:45:06]

Beirdo:

heh

[05:45:24]

achew22:

AAAHHH MUST KILL NUVEXPORT FOR BEING SO SLOW

[05:45:28]

myNOOBtv:

does ctrl-alt-f2 work on your version?

[05:45:32]

mchou:

Beirdo: what do you mean by buggered the text console?

[05:45:59]

Beirdo:

that has nothing to do with distro, and yes, it works, but the video mode on the text consoles is stuck at something the TV won't display

[05:46:25]

achew22:

do you have a nvidea card?

[05:46:28]

Beirdo:

no

[05:46:33]

achew22:

nevermind

[05:46:34]

Beirdo:

well, not in that box

[05:46:39]

narf:

cmon you can type in commands blind to fix that lol

[05:46:53]

achew22:

I was gonna offer you my xorg.conf file

[05:46:54]

bomba (bomba!n=mphardy@widget.gizmolabs.org) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[05:46:56]

buddy (buddy!n=buddyv@host-206-54-195-175.entouch.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:47:00]

Beirdo:

my X works fine

[05:47:00]

myNOOBtv:

hmm like "killall GDP"?

[05:47:11]

Beirdo:

it's the TEXT consoles that are borked

[05:47:18]

Beirdo:

you guys just don't read tonight :)

[05:47:20]

myNOOBtv:

oooooh

[05:47:21]

achew22:

Beirdo type "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" then enter then y then enter then ssh in

[05:47:29]

Beirdo:

jeez

[05:47:31]

narf:

i was thinking more like "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda

[05:47:34]

Beirdo:

of COURSE I have sshd

[05:47:35]

myNOOBtv:

can you switch to KDE and back?

[05:47:37]

mchou:

Beirdo: so what mode did you use? 794?

[05:47:49]

achew22:

Beirdo sorry — some people don't have it

[05:47:50]

myNOOBtv:

nvm

[05:48:01]

mchou:

Beirdo: vga=794?

[05:48:03]

bomba (bomba!n=mphardy@widget.gizmolabs.org) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:48:07]

myNOOBtv (myNOOBtv!n=pvrmyth@c-24-99-154-175.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has quit ("Client Exiting")

[05:48:31]

Beirdo:

mchou: vga=0x312

[05:49:12]

mchou:

that's pretty screwed up.

[05:49:21]

Beirdo:

stupid "killall -9 X" from ssh :)

[05:49:25]

Beirdo:

I deserved this

[05:49:31]

mchou:

your tv can't display that?

[05:49:38]

Beirdo:

argh

[05:49:40]

Beirdo:

yes it can

[05:49:43]

Beirdo:

of course it can

[05:49:52]

Beirdo:

but it got stuck in the wrong mode

[05:50:44]

narf:

you shouldn't complain, I have to reset the bios every time i want to reboot (buggered bios)

[05:51:00]

Beirdo:

is there a way to force the equivalent of vga= settings without rebooting?

[05:51:09]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[05:51:55]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:52:58]

kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@67.183.242.70) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:53:16]

Beirdo:

ahoy, kormoc

[05:53:37]

kormoc:

Good Mornin' Capt Beirdo.

[05:53:48]

Beirdo:

bought a FX5500 PCI :)

[05:53:54]

kormoc:

sweet :)

[05:54:09]

Beirdo:

and the fileserver's now quietly humming away running breezy

[05:54:10]

Beirdo:

;)

[05:54:13]

damo21 (damo21!n=mythtv@203-214-79-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:54:23]

Beirdo:

but I need to setup a PILE of stuff again now ;)

[05:54:35]

Beirdo:

NFS is up, ntpd is up, the rest can wait

[05:54:42]

kormoc:

hehe

[05:55:07]

Beirdo:

gives me shit to do when I run outta brainpower scripting at work

[05:55:14]

** kormoc nods **

[05:55:29]

kormoc:

I need to get my server setup, but I've been feeling apathic

[05:55:29]

Beirdo:

and I decided to rsync the old filesystem

[05:55:42]

damo21:

hi, i have followed just about every online help with getting mythtv to work with ubuntu breezy but im still getting permission problems accessing the mysql database

[05:55:49]

mchou:

Beirdo: so how much live storage have you got now?

[05:56:08]

Beirdo:

900G of RAID5, 80G system disk

[05:56:14]

buddy:

what name is your mysql database?

[05:56:19]

Beirdo:

so 60G less than before

[05:56:21]

damo21:

mythconverg

[05:56:21]

mchou:

damo21: then you didn't follow every step

[05:56:31]

narf:

damo21: are you using a remote frontend?

[05:56:31]

buddy:

and pw?

[05:56:46]

damo21:

username mythtv pw mythtv

[05:56:54]

damo21:

the backend is logged in fine

[05:56:55]

mchou:

Beirdo: how much of the 900GB is for myth?

[05:57:05]

Beirdo:

400G just like before

[05:57:07]

kormoc:

damo21, are you using a remote frontend?

[05:57:08]

damo21:

but when i login using mythweb i get the following error

[05:57:25]

buddy:

bad ip address ?

[05:57:25]

Beirdo:

didn't resize anything, just pvmoved the entire LVM onto the RAID

[05:57:27]

kormoc:

damo21, is mythweb on a different computer then the database?

[05:57:36]

damo21:

no everything on the one machine

[05:57:40]

mchou:

Beirdo: what do you use the other 500G for mostly?

[05:57:44]

narf:

nm then

[05:58:10]

Beirdo:

mp3s, downloaded ISOs, backups of my linode, etc

[05:58:28]

Beirdo:

100G for converted video

[05:58:33]

mchou:

that's a shitload of mp3

[05:58:40]

damo21:

phpmyadmin says that mythtv is logged in at localhost 4 times

[05:58:58]

damo21:

so that means the backend works?

[05:59:05]

Beirdo:

meh, only 10G of mp3 right now

[05:59:32]

buddy:

what error are you geting?

[05:59:33]

damo21:

but when i login to mythweb it says: Warning at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 54:

[05:59:33]

damo21:

mysql_connect(): Lost connection to MySQL server during query

[05:59:41]

kormoc:

damo21, backend works if the log says it does,

[05:59:42]

Beirdo:

hehehehe

[05:59:47]

damo21:

Fatal Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 55:

[05:59:47]

damo21:

Can't connect to the database server. Did you use the correct settings in config/conf.php?The system administrator has been notified and the problem will be remedied shortly.

[05:59:52]

Beirdo:

I should start sshd on the fileserver before going to bed

[05:59:56]

Beirdo:

dumbass.

[05:59:57]

Beirdo:

heh

[06:00:02]

Beirdo:

good night

[06:00:18]

buddy:

did you do a mythfilldatabase?

[06:00:24]

damo21:

i checked config/conf.php it has the correct settings

[06:01:18]

damo21:

not explicitly... but i saw tv_grab_au run successfully

[06:01:41]

damo21:

when i ran mythtv-setup

[06:01:49]

seme|Home:

ok so tv is now working

[06:01:54]

seme|Home:

but the quality looks aweful

[06:01:54]

buddy:

use web browser & go to ip address of you mythtv server what do you see?

[06:02:00]

seme|Home:

its really interlaced

[06:02:08]

seme|Home:

and the color and brightness are really off

[06:02:10]

damo21:

buddy: i see a page with 2 error messages

[06:02:16]

seme|Home:

is it possible to make adjustments?

[06:02:26]

buddy:

mythfill did not run correctly

[06:02:42]

damo21:

ok what is the command to fill the database

[06:02:49]

buddy:

mythfilldatabase

[06:02:52]

damo21:

k

[06:02:54]

buddy:

user mythtv

[06:02:56]

kormoc:

damo21, did you edit the .htaccess file in mythweb's directory?

[06:03:11]

damo21:

kormoc: no

[06:03:27]

damo21:

kormoc: there is no such file

[06:03:30]

kormoc:

damo21, you might want to do that, cause as of 0.19, that's where the database stuff is now stored.

[06:03:36]

kormoc:

damo21, well, that could be an issue

[06:03:52]

damo21:

kormoc: im not familiar with apache

[06:04:09]

buddy:

ahh i did not know that I'am stil on .18

[06:04:23]

kormoc:

damo21, it should have came with mythweb

[06:04:42]

achew22:

is there a way in bash script to run two commands at the same time? or is there a command line version of nuvexport

[06:04:53]

buddy:

i guess its a good time to ask Which version are you installing :)

[06:05:08]

damo21:

kormoc: i installed mythtv from ubuntu, it seems some dependencies were omitted, like libnss-db... took ages to get the backend working

[06:05:28]

kormoc:

achew22, command1 & (next line) command2 &

[06:05:52]

achew22:

i just realised that there was a manpage for nuvexport

[06:05:57]

achew22:

i'm going to see if I can do it through that

[06:06:47]

damo21:

kormoc: ok im installing mythtv 0.19

[06:07:48]

damo21:

kormoc: which version of mythweb goes with mythtv 0.19

[06:07:51]

buddy:

well I ask my question here cause I cant figure what went wrong :)

[06:08:05]

kormoc:

damo21, mythweb 0.19

[06:08:14]

damo21:

ok

[06:08:19]

buddy:

why do I have live TV in the mythphone option?

[06:08:41]

achew22:

would someone be willing to help me with the setup for my custom commercial cutting job?

[06:09:04]

buddy:

and does apt-get upgrade mythtv work with out any issues?

[06:10:10]

achew22:

buddy yeah but it will only get you to 0.18.1

[06:10:15]

seme|Home:

is it possible to change the tv to deinterlaced mode?

[06:10:20]

seme|Home:

or does that not make sense

[06:10:26]

achew22:

yes... its in your setup somewehre

[06:10:29]

kormoc:

seme|Home, not really, no

[06:10:40]

buddy:

i have 18.1 now I'll wait till later

[06:10:46]

seme|Home:

hrm...

[06:10:57]

kormoc:

achew22, that enables deinterlacing filters, but tv's are interlaced likely, unless they are hdtv, which it should auto do it's thing

[06:11:01]

seme|Home:

I just got the TV working but I can't tell why the quality is so bad

[06:11:04]

damo21:

does mythweb 0.18.1–3 work with mythtv 0.18.1–5?

[06:11:24]

seme|Home:

I'm watching it on my lcd does that usually cause a problem?

[06:11:35]

achew22:

it probably will — but go to the site and get 0.18.1–5 to prevent any issues

[06:11:42]

kormoc:

seme|Home, nah, just enable the deiinterlacing filter in the playback options

[06:12:01]

kormoc:

achew22, the -3 and -5 is maintainer versions, not offical versions

[06:12:10]

achew22:

nevermind then

[06:12:55]

Chicago (Chicago!n=Chicago@c-67-186-94-173.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:13:15]

Chicago:

Is there a method to pull in channel icons built into mythtv?

[06:14:09]

damo21:

ok, i just finished running mythfilldatabase now mythtv + mythweb 0.18 how should i configure htaccess?

[06:14:19]

sphery (sphery!n=sphery@user-142g7bp.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:15:01]

seme|Home:

when you say to "record one showing of this title every week" will it intelligently record the show if you don't already have it?

[06:15:32]

damo21:

im pretty sure everything works except the permissions on the webserver

[06:16:43]

buddy:

whats the latest bttv driver version?

[06:17:15]

damo21:

if there is no .htaccess file, doesnt that mean it should just let me connect from localhost

[06:17:28]

buddy:

try

[06:18:14]

damo21:

phpmyadmin works fine from the webserver, but mythweb throws a specific myth related error page

[06:18:25]

kormoc:

which says?

[06:18:33]

damo21:

Warning at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 54:

[06:18:33]

damo21:

mysql_connect(): Lost connection to MySQL server during query

[06:18:33]

damo21:

<hr>

[06:18:33]

damo21:

[06:18:33]

damo21:

<hr>

[06:18:33]

damo21:

Fatal Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 55:

[06:18:35]

damo21:

Can't connect to the database server. Did you use the correct settings in config/conf.php?The system administrator has been notified and the problem will be remedied shortly.

[06:18:44]

slowburn (slowburn!n=zap@adsl-71-135-114-232.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[06:18:59]

kormoc:

that's not a connection issue

[06:19:04]

achew22:

um... would someone be willing to help me with with a nuvexport issue?

[06:19:09]

phar0e:

Helleeoeoeoeoeo

[06:19:11]

kormoc:

that's an issue with the connection dieing unexpectedly

[06:19:16]

seme|Home:

thanks... the deinterlaced video looks better

[06:19:23]

kormoc:

damo21, what version of mysql?

[06:19:29]

damo21:

ummm

[06:19:43]

seme|Home:

hrm... one last thing.. I can't hear sound for the tv but I can hear sound for the video playback

[06:19:49]

seme|Home:

any idea?

[06:19:51]

damo21:

4.0.24_Debian-10ubuntu2

[06:20:04]

buddy:

raise the volume?

[06:20:15]

achew22:

will someone look at this pastebin http://pastebin.com/586468 it pertains to nuvexport

[06:20:17]

seme|Home:

it is at 90%

[06:20:29]

buddy:

asla?

[06:21:17]

buddy:

on my box i need to do an alsamixer and un mute pcm

[06:21:20]

seme|Home:

that would be odd.. the dvd, and video playback work

[06:21:24]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")

[06:21:43]

damo21:

kormoc: $ mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv works fine ... mysql>

[06:22:12]

kothog (kothog!n=kothog@S010600500480af12.gv.shawcable.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[06:23:09]

damo21:

kormoc: i think there is a broken link php/http <---> mysql

[06:23:31]

seme|Home:

wait... I forgot to set it to ALSA default...

[06:24:15]

lightx (lightx!n=lightx@188.79.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[06:24:24]

damo21:

kormoc: last night i had it working, i could load the mythweb interface, but there was no program data

[06:26:16]

achew22:

unless someone is willing ot help me with my nuvexport issue i'm going to go off to bed (not a threat) so g'night

[06:26:53]

damo21:

kormoc: do you know of a full current howto for ubuntu breezy

[06:26:57]

damo21:

or anyone

[06:27:25]

damo21:

im tempted to wipe it clean and start from scratch

[06:28:45]

threat:

achew22, what?

[06:28:53]

kormoc:

damo21, check wiki.mythtv.org

[06:29:00]

achew22:

threat: what do you need to know

[06:29:08]

croppa (croppa!i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:29:08]

seme|Home:

ok so nothing is muted...

[06:29:09]

damo21:

can someone recommend a very simple distro to get mythtv up and running

[06:29:18]

kormoc:

damo21, it might be a issue with the mysql being set wrong

[06:29:28]

kormoc:

damo21, knoppmyth is considered the easiest

[06:29:34]

seme|Home:

I've changed my config to ALSA:default for the sound device and default for the mixer

[06:29:39]

damo21:

cool

[06:29:50]

achew22:

threat: i'm going to bed i dont care I'll do it tomorrow

[06:30:09]

threat:

lol

[06:30:21]

seme|Home:

hrm... still no sound

[06:31:41]

benc- (benc-!n=benc@markcaswell.dsl.visi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:31:55]

seme|Home:

hrm... I think this is a pcHDTV problem since I can hear sound if I plug my speakers directly into the card... I thought that I didn't need to do this

[06:32:11]

damo21:

its so frustrating to get everything working including the backend, and then have trouble with simple things like mysql

[06:32:48]

Gumby:

does anyone here know if there is something that will take the keypress rate of my ati remote and make it so that a single keypress isnt repeated within say .5 seconds or so?

[06:32:49]

kormoc:

seme|Home, perhaps you do need to then

[06:32:58]

Gumby:

from one press I am getting 5 or so presses

[06:33:01]

Gumby:

quite frustrating

[06:33:02]

seme|Home:

maybe

[06:33:03]

seme|Home:

;)

[06:33:14]

kormoc:

Gumby, I do beleive there is a repeat thing for lirc

[06:33:22]

xris:

Gumby: recalibrate lirc

[06:33:38]

Gumby:

the ati remote isnt using lirc as far as I know

[06:33:44]

kormoc:

ahh

[06:33:48]

kormoc:

then likely not

[06:34:13]

xris:

Gumby: depends on what driver.. there's a keyboard driver for it, or you can use lirc.

[06:34:17]

Gumby:

I've messed with the kernel module and recompiled it before and it helps, but its still not great

[06:34:37]

Gumby:

xris: you dont happen to know of a URL where I can read up on it would you.

[06:34:59]

Gumby:

I guess I am using the keyboard driver.... not sure though

[06:35:06]

kormoc:

I need to get lirc working

[06:35:09]

xris:

Gumby: sorry, not a clue. I remember having a horrible time with my lola remote (same driver)... ended up just not using it.

[06:35:22]

Gumby:

all I know is that I load the ati_remote kernel module and it works... or at least receives input

[06:35:24]

xris:

Gumby: if it was a kernel module specifically for the remote, it's the keyboard driver.

[06:35:24]

kormoc:

I have the remote working fine, irw reads it fine, just myth doesn't do anything when a key is pressed

[06:35:45]

Gumby:

ah, ok. I'll see if I can get lirc working then

[06:35:50]

xris:

kormoc: you configure the lirc config file for myth?

[06:36:09]

xris:

kormoc: ~/.lircrc

[06:36:19]

kormoc:

xris, sure did, and myth reads it fine

[06:36:22]

xris:

weird

[06:36:40]

kormoc:

xris, just the remote presses generate no event, for all of X even, it's not just limited to myth

[06:36:49]

Gumby:

the "fetch channels from listings source" option in mythtv-setup takes some time to complete... this is fine, but it'd be good if the user was notified that something was indeed happening instead of just what appears to be a frozen screen

[06:40:52]

xris:

Gumby: submit a bug report or no one will know it needs to be done.

[06:41:35]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[06:42:05]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:42:50]

tetra:

there's some weird bar down the right side in livetv

[06:43:11]

tetra:

it stays even after exiting mythfrontend and going back in

[06:43:29]

xris:

tetra: more detail

[06:43:50]

xris:

big pink bar while watching hdtv? black bar that's only 2 pixels wide, etc, etc?

[06:44:20]

tetra:

analog cable

[06:44:55]

tetra:

about maybe the right 4% of the screen, almost reaches the top and bottom

[06:45:16]

xris:

you sure it's not just the broadcast overscan stuff?

[06:45:21]

tetra:

looks like part of the video froze in that section on the right

[06:46:05]

buddy (buddy!n=buddyv@host-206-54-195-175.entouch.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[06:46:26]

Cardoe_ (Cardoe_!n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:46:41]

xris:

it's probably just the overscan stuff (usually about 2–4% on each side is assumed to be "overscan" covered up by the tv cabinet on CRT's)... myth has adjustments for it.

[06:47:17]

tetra:

nevermind

[06:48:08]

threat (threat!n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) has quit ("Leaving")

[06:48:17]

Cardoe_ (Cardoe_!n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe) has quit (Client Quit)

[06:48:17]

Cardoe (Cardoe!n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe) has quit ("Leaving")

[06:48:39]

tetra:

i think it's just part of the show i'm watching ;)

[06:49:27]

phar0e:

anyone buy anything cool lately?

[06:49:32]

xris:

aka overscan

[06:49:32]

damo21:

HAHAHA ubuntu forgot to require php mysql dependencies

[06:49:44]

damo21:

no wonfer

[06:50:04]

xris:

phar0e: ole_schoola bought me a refractometer.

[06:50:47]

tetra:

xris: no, it's not overscan, trust me

[06:51:32]

seme|Home:

why would I be able to hear the audio even if I am not running mythfrontend?

[06:51:56]

seme|Home:

I've plugged my tvcapture card audio output to my line in on my sound card

[06:51:58]

tetra:

seme|Home: because your tv tuner sucks? :)

[06:52:04]

tetra:

exactly

[06:52:12]

seme|Home:

?

[06:52:13]

kormoc:

seme|Home, the capture channel on your sound card isn't muted, as per the instructions

[06:52:18]

seme|Home:

aaah

[06:52:21]

xris:

seme|Home: what kormoc said

[06:53:53]

tetra:

ok, it's not part of the show, but it's only on this one channel, it's white toward most of the top, with a red pattern 3/4 down, and black at the bottom

[06:54:15]

xris:

tetra: bad reception?

[06:55:01]

tetra:

xris: no

[06:55:06]

tetra:

xris: it's like part of the frame froze

[06:55:12]

xris:

weird

[06:55:18]

tetra:

i'm going to restart backend

[06:56:52]

damo21:

would it be better to install php5 instead of php4?

[06:56:53]

seme|Home:

thanks guys

[06:57:05]

xris:

damo21: just for mythweb? shouldn't matter.

[06:57:16]

seme|Home:

its working now

[06:57:26]

seme|Home:

I guess it would help to get some sleep ;)

[06:57:26]

damo21:

xris, just have a problem with mysql talking to php

[06:57:30]

seme|Home:

2am here

[06:58:38]

xris:

damo21: do you have the php mysql libraries installed?

[06:58:43]

damo21:

yep

[06:59:03]

damo21:

php4-mysql

[06:59:27]

xris:

what version of mysql?

[06:59:32]

damo21:

4.0

[06:59:56]

xris:

do you have the compat library installed?

[07:00:02]

damo21:

?

[07:00:08]

xris:

mysql compat headers

[07:00:18]

damo21:

checking

[07:00:19]

xris:

sometimes needed for interaction with php/perl libraries

[07:02:23]

damo21:

im running ubuntu, cant seem to find that package what is its name?

[07:03:02]

xris:

no clue

[07:03:08]

xris:

I only run ubuntu at work

[07:03:33]

xris:

apt-cache search mysql | grep -i compat

[07:04:10]

damo21:

gambas-gb-vb – The Gambas Visual Basic (tm) compatibility component

[07:04:11]

damo21:

gambas-gb-xml – The Gambas Visual Basic (tm) compatibility component

[07:04:49]

damo21:

great...

[07:06:16]

xris:

damo21: then it's likely included as part of one of the other mysql modules

[07:06:21]

eiggirC_ (eiggirC_!i=criggie@criggie.dyndns.org) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:06:27]

damo21:

k

[07:06:56]

xris:

damo21: so what php errors are you getting?

[07:07:33]

eiggirC (eiggirC!i=criggie@202.0.42.116) has quit (Nick collision from services.)

[07:07:39]

eiggirC_ is now known as eiggirC

[07:07:50]

threat (threat!n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:08:08]

damo21:

ermmm now i cant even find the mythweb directory anymore on the webserver

[07:08:30]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-67-176-82-206.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[07:08:59]

xris:

dpkg -l mythweb

[07:09:13]

damo21:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force mythweb

[07:09:17]

damo21:

ran fine

[07:09:46]

damo21:

still no directory

[07:10:08]

eiggirC:

damo21: /etc/mythweb/ afaik

[07:10:34]

damo21:

bash: cd: /etc/mythweb: No such file or directory

[07:10:35]

xris:

eiggirC: um, that'd be f'd up if that was true

[07:10:53]

xris:

damo21: apt-get remove mythweb; apt-get install mythweb

[07:11:19]

eiggirC:

what directory are you after?

[07:11:27]

eiggirC:

xris: a --purge might help too

[07:11:28]

damo21:

woops had synaptic open

[07:11:50]

kormoc:

eiggirC, the mythweb web directory

[07:11:50]

eiggirC:

/usr/share/mythtv/mythweb

[07:11:53]

eiggirC:

thats it

[07:12:17]

kormoc:

that's icky too

[07:12:20]

kormoc:

really icky

[07:12:25]

damo21:

xris: reinstalled mythweb, no directory

[07:12:34]

xris:

damo21: dpkg -l mythweb

[07:12:45]

xris:

doesn't that list what files are in the mythweb package?

[07:12:58]

kormoc:

eiggirC, web directorys tend to be in /var in every other distro

[07:13:00]

xris:

kormoc: at least I wrote the new mythweb to account for f'd up installs like that one in/usr/share

[07:13:05]

damo21:

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold

[07:13:06]

damo21:

| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed

[07:13:06]

damo21:

|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)

[07:13:06]

damo21:

||/ Name Version Description

[07:13:06]

damo21:

+++-===============================-===============================-============ ==================================================================

[07:13:06]

xris:

kormoc: or /home/www

[07:13:07]

damo21:

ii mythweb 0.18.1–3 Web interface add-on module for MythTV

[07:13:09]

astate:

forgetting why I do some things always seems to be the root of my evil....setting up a mythbox took 3 attempts, all because I didn't think about what ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" actually does :P

[07:13:24]

eiggirC:

kormoc: its not an official debian package.

[07:13:35]

astate (astate!n=astateof@12.10.108.109) has left #mythtv-users ()

[07:13:50]

xris:

damo21: sorry, L, not l

[07:13:58]

kormoc:

eiggirC, so then the maintainer screwed it up, but that doesn't change the fact that it's screwed

[07:14:03]

xris:

I don't use ubuntu much.. more of an rpm guy myself.

[07:14:15]

damo21:

xris: oh... cool ok

[07:14:48]

xris:

damo21: or you could just listen to what the author recommends (me, btw) and install it from tarball... I think packages for web apps is just silly. too many choices on where to install.

[07:15:09]

damo21:

xris: lol

[07:15:21]

eiggirC:

kormoc: *shrug* doesn't help the guy with the question

[07:15:31]

xris:

damo21: did you find it with -L ?

[07:15:47]

damo21:

xris: yep its all there, but i cant seem to access it on the webserver

[07:15:53]

kormoc:

eiggirC, sure it does. don't use a screwed package and do what the author recommends

[07:16:07]

** kormoc shrugs **

[07:16:18]

xris:

damo21: restart apache? is apache configured properly?

[07:16:29]

damo21:

xris: /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/

[07:17:17]

damo21:

sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [ok]

[07:17:30]

xris:

damo21: ok, that directory location is just dumb

[07:17:48]

xris:

damo21: have you configured apache at all?

[07:18:07]

damo21:

xris: i followed the wiki

[07:18:45]

damo21:

xris: made a htpasswd file etc

[07:19:18]

xris:

damo21: is there a conf file for apache that points to the mythweb install directory?

[07:19:48]

damo21:

xris: probably not

[07:20:32]

damo21:

xris: ohhh the directory is invisible, but the address works

[07:20:56]

xris:

damo21: ?

[07:21:04]

xris:

it's probably aliased or something

[07:21:37]

damo21:

xris: the structure of my /var/www/ has a symlink to the correct directory

[07:21:48]

xris:

makes sense. but f'd up.

[07:22:06]

xris:

but that's why I suggest using the tarball... people put their web installs in really whacked places.

[07:22:30]

damo21:

xris: im just a linux noob, installed from synaptic

[07:22:45]

xris:

damo21: as long as it works.

[07:23:18]

damo21:

xris: yeah thats why im here, coz the whacked ubuntu packages dont work flawlessly

[07:23:24]

xris:

there are a few tweaks in the README that you might want to check on (search for AllowOverride) if it doesn't work...

[07:23:25]

xris:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . thweb/README

[07:23:36]

xris:

I added them after the release — not sure if the distros have put things in there or not

[07:23:59]

xris:

for newbie myth people, I think fedora is the easier to get running.

[07:24:06]

damo21:

ok

[07:24:11]

xris:

axel puts a lot of work into getting the packages to work out of the box...

[07:24:23]

xris:

either that or knopmyth for the people more familiar with debian style packages.

[07:24:26]

damo21:

nice

[07:24:58]

eiggirC_ (eiggirC_!i=criggie@criggie.dyndns.org) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:24:58]

xris:

crap, I never removed the "pre" from the readme

[07:25:05]

damo21:

yeah, once i copy all my files over im formatting this box into a knoppmyth box

[07:25:20]

xris:

anyway, good luck. I'm headed to bed now.

[07:25:25]

xris (xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) has quit ("l8r")

[07:25:26]

damo21:

thanks dude

[07:29:45]

sona:

is anybody using mythfrontend on a pc with an ati radeon97000 ? I'm using tha latest ati-drivers but get framedrops... really crappy performance in mythfrontend :/

[07:30:12]

sona:

video overall sucks, any suggestions ?

[07:30:27]

damo21:

check xorg.conf

[07:30:41]

damo21:

suggest: rewrite ati linux drivers

[07:31:05]

sona:

ok I'm not laughing

[07:31:36]

damo21:

i know man, im thinking of getting red of my 9800pro

[07:31:50]

damo21:

rid* and getting an nvidia card

[07:31:56]

sona:

laptop :/

[07:31:56]

threat:

is mythtv just a frontend to other programs? or it includes the video player, etc..., codecs, etc.. too ?

[07:32:51]

threat:

is there debian packages for mythtv?

[07:33:03]

damo21:

sona: yeah that could be a problem... are u sure u have the latest ati binaries from ati?

[07:33:10]

kormoc:

threat, it is it's own program

[07:33:21]

kormoc:

threat, and you should check the website about suff like that

[07:33:26]

sona:

I have the latest in gentoo-portage

[07:33:31]

kormoc:

threat, www.mythtv.org wiki.mythtv.org

[07:33:35]

threat:

kormoc, sorry, I am lazy, I will look now

[07:33:57]

kormoc:

threat, search the wiki for debian to see what people recommend

[07:34:11]

sona:

damo21: I have great 3d-performance, but video playback sucks, doesn't seem to support xv, whatever that is

[07:34:17]

threat:

kormoc, ok thanx

[07:34:33]

damo21:

sona: i dont know about gentoo, but in ubuntu, i have xv working nicely

[07:34:53]

damo21:

on my radeon9800p

[07:35:12]

sona:

damo21: could you put your xorg.conf on pastebin.com ?

[07:35:37]

kormoc:

outside of the normal places (newegg, zipzoomfly, pcalchemy) where would people recommend getting a pvr 500?

[07:37:31]

eiggirC (eiggirC!i=criggie@criggie.dyndns.org) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[07:41:35]

damo21:

sona: http://pastebin.com/586536

[07:42:52]

damo21:

sona: hmm actually this doesnt have xv in it

[07:44:00]

sona:

thanks

[07:44:18]

sona:

aticonfig seems to have screewed my xorg.conf

[07:45:49]

damo21:

sona: wait a sec

[07:46:11]

damo21:

sona: this is my working laptop xorg.conf with ati fglrx + xv

[07:47:51]

damo21:

http://pastebin.com/586545

[07:48:19]

damo21:

its got a Radeon Mobility 9000 M9

[07:48:45]

damo21:

works great

[07:48:48]

sona:

thank you, thats very helpfull

[07:49:31]

damo21:

i think the important option is to disable opengloverlay and enable videooverlay

[07:50:49]

sona:

testing right now

[07:53:07]

damo21:

i couldnt believe that hibernation, acpi cpuspeed and all the hardware was detected on my laptop out of the box in ubuntu

[07:54:18]

damo21:

im just trying to fiddle with apache to get mythweb running

[07:59:32]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[08:02:10]

NHIwerx (NHIwerx!n=frank@134.100.58.143) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:02:12]

sona:

damo21: indeed those two xorg settings did it, thanks

[08:04:49]

damo21:

sona: cool :)

[08:17:54]

eiggirC (eiggirC!i=criggie@criggie.dyndns.org) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:23:03]

kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@67.183.242.70) has quit ("http://www.openbash.org")

[08:25:59]

eiggirC_ (eiggirC_!i=criggie@criggie.dyndns.org) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[08:28:21]

otwin (otwin!n=otwin@outgoing.lmrl.lu) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:33:13]

Gumby:

does anyone know if it is possible to have multiple X sessions running on diferent monitors so one user could be the PVR user and the other would be a regular desktop user

[08:33:27]

Gumby:

and both would run at the same time

[08:45:31]

damo21:

man i figured out what the problem was finally, but i dont know how to fix it

[08:45:37]

Pitchin_uk (Pitchin_uk!n=dave@host86-134-12-45.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:45:48]

damo21:

how can i install a missing mod_env into apache2?

[08:45:50]

Mobleman (Mobleman!i=Mobleman@82.150.72.15) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:47:14]

Pitchin_uk:

morning – anyone in here running mythweb?

[08:47:21]

damo21:

im trying to

[08:47:36]

damo21:

but apache webserver is broken

[08:47:51]

damo21:

my one anyway

[08:51:53]

damo21:

does anyone have mod_env.so in their apache2 modules?

[08:52:24]

johnp_ (johnp_!n=jmp@82-69-87-196.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:53:59]

Pitchin_uk:

i have env as a module in my apache

[08:54:42]

damo21:

mine didnt install with one from ubuntu, mythweb requires it to authenticate mysql

[08:54:56]

damo21:

its a bit dodgey,

[08:55:34]

damo21:

but im running an old 0.18.1

[08:57:37]

damo21:

how do i find out which user:group apache2 uses in ubuntu

[08:57:50]

damo21:

join #ubuntu

[09:01:03]

pjn:

mod_env is included in apache2 under ubuntu

[09:01:35]

pjn:

you can check it by making a phpinfo file and seeing what modules are loaded

[09:03:59]

threat (threat!n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) has quit ("Leaving")

[09:06:55]

pjn:

you need to set allowoverride on the mythweb directory in apache2.conf

[09:08:21]

Pitchin_uk:

what is htpasswd ??

[09:10:27]

pjn:

is is a program that you can use to generate password files to restrict access to various directories of your webserver when used with a .htaccess file

[09:11:14]

Pitchin_uk:

how do i run it because just typing htpasswd doesn't work

[09:11:40]

pjn:

just typing htpasswd gives you usage doesn't it?

[09:12:04]

pjn:

htpasswd -c .htpasswd username password

[09:12:06]

Pitchin_uk:

no – it says command not found

[09:12:08]

pjn:

at a guess

[09:12:26]

pjn:

hmm

[09:13:05]

pjn:

Pitchin_uk: os?

[09:13:09]

Pitchin_uk:

suse

[09:13:38]

pjn:

can't really help you there

[09:14:27]

pjn:

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jun/2537.html

[09:14:30]

pjn:

there you go

[09:14:34]

pjn:

use htpasswd2

[09:16:05]

Pitchin_uk:

still doesn't work

[09:16:23]

pjn:

have you got apache, or apache2 installed?

[09:16:34]

pjn:

I'm guessing it comes in the packages for them

[09:16:34]

Pitchin_uk:

yeah – im running mythweb

[09:17:57]

pjn:

umm, sorry I don't know where to go to search the suse packages for a particular file

[09:18:26]

Pitchin_uk:

not a prob

[09:18:28]

Pitchin_uk (Pitchin_uk!n=dave@host86-134-12-45.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[09:20:19]

pjn:

bummmer, he went

[09:20:44]

pjn:

I'm guessing he was trying to run it as a regular user and /usr/sbin wasn't on his path

[09:28:14]

nuonguy (nuonguy!n=nuonguy@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:28:25]

Esotericisms (Esotericisms!n=esoteric@ip68-229-113-226.hr.hr.cox.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[09:28:38]

Krazylegz (Krazylegz!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has quit ()

[09:31:47]

jasta_ is now known as jasta

[09:37:15]

Layer01 (Layer01!n=Layer01@203.129.54.104) has quit ()

[09:42:50]

damo21 (damo21!n=mythtv@203-214-79-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[09:45:34]

nuonguy_ (nuonguy_!n=nuonguy@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[09:51:40]

Chicago (Chicago!n=Chicago@c-67-186-94-173.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[09:53:06]

threat (threat!n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:53:43]

Mobleman (Mobleman!i=Mobleman@82.150.72.15) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[09:54:25]

stuarta (stuarta!n=stuarta@81.1.94.11) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:54:40]

phar0e:

the UK'ers are waking up

[09:56:38]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:57:40]

threat (threat!n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[10:09:01]

Juski (Juski!n=juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust7.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:09:32]

phar0e:

the scally hunter has arrived!

[10:10:21]

threat (threat!n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:10:36]

Juski:

heh

[10:16:04]

Juski:

pity I don't have a rifle, then I really could hunt scallies :-)

[10:17:49]

stuarta:

for amusement under mysql; select curdate() -7;

[10:20:00]

hocke (hocke!n=hberg@gentoo.bsnet.se) has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)

[10:21:22]

hocke (hocke!n=hberg@gentoo.bsnet.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:32:28]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:35:46]

Jasper:

morning

[10:39:48]

Layer01 (Layer01!n=Layer01@203.129.54.104) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:40:59]

stuarta:

morning

[10:41:11]

Juski:

morning

[10:41:25]

Juski:

or afternoon, depending where you are but let's not go there

[10:41:38]

stuarta:

it would be warm

[10:41:39]

Jasper:

:p

[10:41:43]

Jasper:

it's not warm

[10:41:44]

Jasper:

it's snowing

[10:41:45]

Jasper:

:)

[10:42:01]

stuarta:

if it were afternoon, you would be in a warm country

[10:42:22]

Jasper:

:p;

[10:43:15]

Jasper:

anyone have a clue how a computer detects what language keyboard you use?

[10:43:25]

Juski:

it doesn't

[10:43:28]

Juski:

you tell it

[10:43:41]

Jasper:

well yeah in linux...but windows seems to recognise a lot of it

[10:43:58]

Jasper:

maybe by keypresses you did before or something.

[10:44:31]

Juski:

????

[10:44:41]

Jasper:

I mean during the installation

[10:45:26]

Juski:

oh, maybe there's an ID string in the keyboard registers

[10:45:50]

Juski:

having to say what kind of keyboard you're using is no big deal though

[10:46:25]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-152-82-206.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:46:35]

Jasper:

well it is :P

[10:46:41]

stuarta:

work to gain ratio for supporting it is rubbish

[10:46:42]

Jasper:

8p

[10:46:54]

stuarta:

can't buy much for 8p

[10:47:09]

Jasper:

lol

[10:47:22]

Juski:

8, penny chews

[10:47:55]

Jasper:

ok...so let's say in japan...how will it know it should display weird signs?

[10:48:22]

Juski:

Jasper: next you'll be saying that having a put a CD in the drive to install a distro is too much like hard work, or downloading one.. whoah.. can't we just power up a machine & it'll know I want ubuntu & just get it itself?

[10:48:25]

greg__:

Jasper you pick the keyboard mapping you're using in windows too

[10:48:33]

greg__:

it's somewhere in the control panel

[10:48:37]

Jasper:

what happens when you plug your keyboard into a japanse computer which has just been formatted?

[10:48:58]

stuarta:

nothing, you have to turn it on first

[10:49:16]

Jasper:

but I mean...you won't have a europian keymapping in command then or?

[10:49:34]

greg__:

you'd have whatever the japanese install disk default is

[10:49:45]

greg__:

when i install windows i get a US keyboard, even though i don't have one

[10:49:50]

greg__:

almost the firs tthing i have to change

[10:49:54]

Juski:

it's one of the first things you do in an install, depending on the distro

[10:50:09]

Jasper:

greg you have a us keyboard layout?

[10:50:16]

greg__:

nope

[10:50:25]

Jasper:

what kinda keyboard do you have then?

[10:50:29]

greg__:

ie

[10:50:39]

greg__:

hmm, or uk in here, ie at home

[10:50:55]

Juski:

anyway to change your keyboard config in Linux is pretty easy. google it

[10:51:03]

greg__:

it can't tell, the keyboards are the same. they have different symbols drawn on them and the keyboard mapping determines what a keypress appears as

[10:51:04]

** hydroksyde come from new zealand... any other NZ MythTV users? **

[10:51:10]

Jasper:

Juski I don't need to know how to change it

[10:51:10]

Jasper:

:P

[10:51:18]

Jasper:

I was just wondering...

[10:52:14]

hydroksyde:

errr

[10:52:43]

Juski:

idle queries eh...

[10:52:51]

hydroksyde:

yes yes

[10:52:54]

hydroksyde:

errr

[10:53:04]

hydroksyde:

i like mythtv :)

[10:53:07]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[10:53:20]

Juski:

doesn't everybody who gets it working? ;-)

[10:53:28]

hydroksyde:

yes

[10:53:32]

hydroksyde:

it can take days

[10:53:44]

hydroksyde:

and the case i'm using is designed for windows XP MCE

[10:53:47]

hydroksyde:

it's a nice case

[10:54:21]

hydroksyde:

but i can't get the front panel, which incorporates the front controls (play, pause, stop, record, etc. and volume), IR, and LCD

[10:56:24]

greg__:

any idea how those frontpanel buttons are connected? Serial? usb? some crazy proprietary interface?

[10:56:30]

hydroksyde:

USB

[10:56:38]

hydroksyde:

it uses some phillips controller

[10:56:48]

greg__:

your best bet is googling and hoping someone's written a linux driver for it

[10:56:54]

stuarta:

maybe it looks like a keyboard?

[10:56:56]

greg__:

unless it's a standard HID device or something lucky

[10:56:56]

hydroksyde:

that apparently will one day be supported through the USB gadget API

[10:57:03]

hydroksyde:

but not yet

[10:57:18]

hydroksyde:

it's definitely not a generic HID

[10:57:27]

Jasper:

anyways what I mean juski was bios level drivers for the keyboard

[10:57:30]

greg__:

you're probably shafted then, unless googling turns up someone having worked on it

[10:57:57]

greg__:

maybe the kernel mailing list?

[10:57:57]

hydroksyde:

http://www.pp.co.nz/ProductsC.php?pp_id=PC00061 – there's the one

[10:58:10]

hydroksyde:

the keyboard works, the remote and front panel stuff doesn't

[10:58:31]

hydroksyde:

and no, the IR is not stock MCE remote IR

[11:01:19]

stuarta:

what does lsusb say about it?

[11:01:27]

hydroksyde:

can't remember

[11:01:36]

hydroksyde:

the case is not with me at the moment

[11:01:38]

hydroksyde:

it's at work

[11:02:01]

hydroksyde:

:P sorry

[11:02:04]

hydroksyde:

i mean

[11:02:06]

hydroksyde:

errr

[11:02:08]

hydroksyde:

something

[11:02:09]

stuarta:

that'll at least give you the usb id to google for.

[11:02:14]

hydroksyde:

yes

[11:02:32]

hydroksyde:

I'm working on my home PC now

[11:02:43]

hydroksyde:

trying to get my hauppage remote to work

[11:02:48]

hydroksyde:

shows up in irw

[11:02:57]

hydroksyde:

mythtv is built with lirc

[11:03:13]

hydroksyde:

i have the appropriate ~/.mythtv/lircrc

[11:03:25]

hydroksyde:

unless...

[11:03:50]

greg__:

if it shows up in irw you're most of the way there

[11:04:01]

greg__:

your mythtv is compiled with native lirc support?

[11:04:06]

hydroksyde:

yep

[11:04:23]

greg__:

your lircrc is in mythtv format, not the irxevent one?

[11:04:26]

hydroksyde:

hmmm... lirc would be handled on the frontend...

[11:04:27]

Juski:

as long as what's in the lircd.conf file aligns with your lircrc file, all will be well

[11:04:29]

greg__:

it should say program mythtv, above all the bits

[11:04:49]

hydroksyde:

it's the one in mythtv-0.19/configfiles

[11:04:57]

Juski:

oh dear.. it's no use having the remote receiver attached to the backend machine ;-)

[11:05:05]

phar0e:

where do I place my iconmap.xml file?

[11:05:08]

hydroksyde:

well no

[11:05:22]

hydroksyde:

i have backend and frontend on same machine

[11:05:27]

hydroksyde:

different users though

[11:06:22]

hydroksyde:

# lircrc.example.HauppaugeGrey-nativelirc

[11:06:22]

hydroksyde:

# 2003-09–17, Robert Kulagowski

[11:06:22]

hydroksyde:

# mailto:rkulagow@rocketmail.com

[11:06:22]

hydroksyde:

# Save this file in ~/.mythtv/lircrc

[11:06:32]

phar0e:

nevermind, found it :D

[11:06:50]

Juski:

what's up with making your own lircrc files anyway?

[11:07:20]

hydroksyde:

erm

[11:07:26]

Juski:

oops that's the old linux "I had to so everyone else should have to" line isn't it? ;-)

[11:07:27]

hydroksyde:

because no one exists for your remote

[11:07:58]

hydroksyde:

Juski, if we all took that attitude, everyone would have to write their own OS

[11:08:04]

Juski:

lol

[11:08:08]

** Juski doesn't care **

[11:08:14]

Juski:

it's Monday after all

[11:08:16]

_BleedAway (_BleedAway!i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:08:31]

stuarta:

it's monday, and my sunday arvo programs didn't record!

[11:08:38]

** stuarta is grumpt **

[11:08:40]

hydroksyde:

well, the power button starts mythtb

[11:08:44]

stuarta:

grumpy even...

[11:08:50]

hydroksyde:

mythtv even

[11:09:03]

** Juski got 'sexy cam' recorded instead of South Park.. turned out better than expected **

[11:10:07]

stuarta:

juski: how is your program info for e4+1? Mine has same times as e4

[11:10:27]

Juski:

stuarta: I don't think I have e4+1.. I'm not fussed

[11:10:40]

stuarta:

it's on freeview...

[11:11:34]

Juski:

oh I do have e4+1 and it's got an xmltvid

[11:12:02]

Juski:

stuarta: looks right here

[11:12:30]

Juski:

current view says E4 showing "whatever you want"

[11:12:46]

Juski:

then e4+1 showing "freshly squeezed tunes"

[11:15:29]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-152-82-206.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[11:19:25]

beavis (beavis!n=beavis@p54A7B2B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:19:32]

BleedAway (BleedAway!i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[11:19:41]

_BleedAway is now known as BleedAway

[11:28:28]

stuarta:

hmm. I have "I still know what you did last summer" both at 10pm tonight

[11:31:51]

phar0e:

anyone here watch any programmes at higher playback speeds?

[11:32:18]

stuarta:

everything

[11:32:24]

phar0e:

how fast do you go?

[11:32:41]

phar0e:

dont lie to me stuarta and tell me you watch 1hr programmes in 15 minutes

[11:33:02]

stuarta:

depends on what I watch. NFL 1.5x, most scifi 1.15–1.3x

[11:33:11]

phar0e:

cool, thank you

[11:36:06]

greg__:

a higher than 1.5x setting would be useful for baseball

[11:36:09]

greg__:

maybe 20x

[11:36:29]

johnp_:

stuarta, E4+1 times == E4 :(

[11:36:38]

stuarta:

anything with instant replays minimum of 1.5x

[11:36:50]

stuarta:

johnp_: thanks. over the air eit?

[11:36:58]

johnp_:

yup

[11:37:24]

stuarta:

someone must have typed wrong at the broadcaster :)

[11:37:40]

johnp_:

need new monkeys

[11:38:07]

stuarta:

number of spelling mistakes they do is huge.

[11:39:22]

kal_ (kal_!i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:39:36]

phar0e:

I know someone here is good at math, what is the proper way of determining time saved by watching a recording at a faster speed? say 1.25x speed would that be TIME/1.25?

[11:40:50]

croppa (croppa!i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has quit ("Konversation terminated!")

[11:48:49]

greg__:

time saved = prog length – (prog_length / play speed )

[11:49:03]

electrichamster (electrichamster!n=jonty@adsl-83-100-231-125.karoo.KCOM.COM) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:51:14]

GreyFoxx:

Woop, mythtv on the msntv: http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums/2006/03-05-MSNTV-MythTV&

[11:51:52]

greg__:

heh very cool

[11:52:54]

Dibblah:

Hmmm... That PCI slot doesn't look too hard to populate...

[11:53:32]

phar0e:

thanks greg__

[11:54:14]

Dibblah:

How about the VGA connector?

[11:54:33]

GreyFoxx:

noone has seriously attempted it

[11:54:40]

GreyFoxx:

but it looks like a few missing components

[11:54:46]

Jasper:

yeah

[11:54:52]

GreyFoxx:

but not likely anything that would really prevent you from using it

[11:54:58]

GreyFoxx:

the IDE header works perfectly

[11:55:01]

greg__:

is it component out or rf?

[11:55:19]

Jasper:

where's the hd?

[11:55:24]

greg__:

the compact flah i'd guess

[11:55:26]

GreyFoxx:

greg__: composite

[11:55:38]

GreyFoxx:

Jasper: IT doesn't come with one

[11:55:45]

GreyFoxx:

you can solder on an ide header though :)P

[11:55:46]

Jasper:

hmm k

[11:55:49]

Jasper:

:p

[11:55:51]

Jasper:

seriously?

[11:55:53]

Jasper:

that's nice

[11:55:53]

Jasper:

:P

[11:55:54]

GreyFoxx:

I have it nfsrooted

[11:56:09]

greg__:

hmm, i'm still not happy with my mini-itx frontends noise. and i've replaced both fans with 14db silenx ones

[11:56:10]

GreyFoxx:

kernel on the cf card, everything else on the network

[11:56:11]

Dibblah:

Is that a sigma chip doing the video output?

[11:56:15]

greg__:

so the msntv thing looks cool

[11:56:20]

GreyFoxx:

Dibblah: Connexant

[11:56:26]

Jasper:

is the quality any good grey ?

[11:56:27]

Dibblah:

Shame they're not really sold in the UK :(

[11:56:34]

GreyFoxx:

Jasper: Looks amazing

[11:56:43]

Jasper:

what tv-out do they use?

[11:57:09]

GreyFoxx:

but so far the only video I've played was with the msn player, I need to update the myth on that one as it's too old to work with my backend

[11:57:20]

GreyFoxx:

Jasper: What do you mean ?

[11:57:27]

Jasper:

device?

[11:57:34]

Jasper:

is it a nvidia?

[11:57:35]

Jasper:

or?

[11:57:44]

GreyFoxx:

Connexant

[11:57:44]

Layer01 is now known as Layer01zzz

[11:57:51]

GreyFoxx:

cx25873

[11:57:59]

GreyFoxx:

intel i830 gpu

[11:58:05]

GreyFoxx:

which supposedly supports XVMC

[11:58:12]

Layer01zzz (Layer01zzz!n=Layer01@203.129.54.104) has quit ()

[11:58:23]

Jasper:

still you have a microsoft box in your living room

[11:58:25]

Jasper:

NOT cool

[11:58:25]

Jasper:

:P

[11:58:30]

Dibblah:

I like working with stuff from Connexant.

[11:58:31]

GreyFoxx:

Like I care :)

[11:58:38]

Dibblah:

Full datasheets :)

[11:58:47]

GreyFoxx:

I've out grown that whole anti-m$ crap :)

[11:58:56]

Dibblah:

... Except on this one. Hmmm :(

[11:59:46]

Jasper:

damn this is difficult...I'm trying to figure out how my pc knows it should draw a e on the screen when I press the e key

[11:59:46]

Jasper:

:P

[11:59:57]

Jasper:

and how it actually draws it :P

[12:01:11]

phar0e:

anyone here use a wireless keyboard with their mythfrontend?

[12:02:06]

Juski:

Jasper: wikipedia is good for that kind of thing.. or howstuffworks.com... but they're not always right of course

[12:02:16]

stuarta:

ahh, thread delete in mutt :)

[12:03:38]

Juski:

Jasper: your keyboard sends out a stream of 1's and 0's to the PC motherboard which end up in a register. the register is read & that's how a PC knows which key has been pressed... put in a very oversimplified way

[12:04:04]

Jasper:

yeah well I know how the integer works Juski....but can the bios for example draw a japanse sign?

[12:04:20]

Jasper:

by iteself....it knows how to draw a e when I let it print an e in assembly..

[12:04:25]

Jasper:

but will it also do that with other signs..

[12:04:27]

Juski:

then to draw characters on the screen these little men who are too tiny to see with the naked eye, they paint the letters one dot at a time

[12:04:27]

Jasper:

see my problem?

[12:05:00]

greg__:

sometimes one of those poor little men dies Juski. That's why you get dead pixels on lcd screens

[12:05:07]

Jasper:

can I put just any sign in a string and will the bios then print it :P

[12:05:09]

Jasper:

that's the question

[12:05:10]

greg__:

i hold a little funeral everytime a pixel dies :(

[12:05:13]

Juski:

greg__: exactly

[12:05:51]

greg__:

Jasper I'd be amazed if your bios supports unicode

[12:06:01]

greg__:

so if it doesn't it probably just does ascii

[12:06:18]

Jasper:

yeah...and that's exactly the problem

[12:06:18]

Juski:

Jasper: I think PC BIOS' just deal with ASCII

[12:06:36]

Jasper:

so I need to rewrite the driver which gets loaded so it knows all the unicode signs..

[12:06:37]

greg__:

Jasper, why are you going through the bios? thats only really to get you up and running in a proper OS

[12:06:48]

greg__:

jasper there;'s no driver involved

[12:06:53]

greg__:

the bios is the driver

[12:07:02]

Jasper:

writing own os greg__

[12:07:02]

greg__:

unless you're inside the os, by which time you should have unicode

[12:07:11]

greg__:

mentalist :)

[12:07:20]

__Ace__ (__Ace__!n=love@kr-lun-162-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:07:33]

Juski:

so go off into #writing-my-own-OS ;-)

[12:08:19]

greg__:

hmm there used to be educational OS's. Simple ones designed to show how an OS was written

[12:08:20]

greg__:

like minix

[12:08:26]

greg__:

maybe there's some more modern equivalent?

[12:09:44]

Juski:

is there really any need to reinvent the wheel though?

[12:10:18]

greg__:

i assume he's doing it for fun

[12:10:24]

** greg__ hopes **

[12:10:38]

Jasper:

also making own fs

[12:10:38]

Jasper:

:P

[12:10:41]

greg__:

:)

[12:11:02]

greg__:

well that should all keep you busy for the next few years anyway ;)

[12:11:11]

Jasper:

and that's exactly the problem...I need to structure my filesystem so it uses the unicode code of directory names to get it into a b+tree

[12:11:19]

kavorka (kavorka!n=mike@69-161-69-17.bflony.adelphia.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[12:12:09]

Juski:

looking fwd to the questions of how do I get mythtv to work on JasperOS

[12:12:34]

Jasper:

:p

[12:12:49]

kavorka (kavorka!n=mike@69-161-69-17.bflony.adelphia.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:12:50]

Jasper:

if mythtv is supported on it yes..

[12:12:50]

Jasper:

:P

[12:13:03]

Juski:

oh there'll be people who try

[12:20:52]

kal_ (kal_!i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[12:33:09]

daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@70-41-156-188.cust.wildblue.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:46:00]

pjn:

I've set the post show recording time to 360 seconds in the mythfrontend setup, and the pre show recording time to 60 seconds. mythtv is only recording shows a minute early and finishing on time, not finishing 5 minutes late. There are no shows being recorded after the current show. Any ideas?

[12:46:21]

pjn:

s/5 minutes/6 minutes/

[12:48:18]

greg__:

try setting the record early and record endlate options in the recording schedule instead

[12:48:25]

greg__:

when you create the recording schedule

[12:48:52]

greg__:

there's another pre and post thing which relate to getting yoru mythtv box up in time to be ready for a recording, and something after. so you may be setting the wrong one?

[12:48:56]

pjn:

I thought the default settings I've changed should apply to all recordings

[12:49:12]

pjn:

hmm, I'll have another look

[12:49:14]

greg__:

i think they're different things. there was a thread about this last week on the mailing list. you may want to search it

[12:51:18]

electrichamster (electrichamster!n=jonty@adsl-83-100-231-125.karoo.KCOM.COM) has quit (Client Quit)

[12:51:30]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:57:37]

pjn:

I am certain they are the start early/end late settings

[12:57:51]

pjn:

the start early setting is recognised, the end late setting is ignored

[12:59:08]

pjn:

(even when there is no show to be recorded after, and livetv isn't being used

[12:59:11]

pjn:

)

[12:59:14]

greg__:

try the other ones, they'll be respected

[12:59:19]

greg__:

or search the mailing lists for that thread i mentioned

[12:59:24]

greg__:

there was an explanation of it all in that

[12:59:29]

pjn:

yeah, I've found the thread

[12:59:39]

pjn:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/186670

[12:59:42]

pjn:

I think...

[13:00:04]

daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@70-41-156-188.cust.wildblue.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[13:01:51]

greg__:

well that thread seems to say to use the options in the recording schedule not the globals

[13:01:55]

Jasper:

GreyFoxx how expensive is such a box?

[13:01:56]

greg__:

so hopefully that'll fix things

[13:04:15]

Krazylegz (Krazylegz!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:04:20]

Jasper:

but it's time to face the through...omg that james blunt whining :P

[13:04:34]

Jasper:

all day long on the freaking radio

[13:06:00]

Juski:

James C***

[13:06:12]

bjohnson (bjohnson!n=bjohnson@i216-58-66-14.cybersurf.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[13:20:11]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[13:20:14]

Jasper^off (Jasper^off!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:25:01]

dberry (dberry!n=dberry@pknat1.passkey.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:33:55]

JasonX (JasonX!n=jasonx@84.12.66.162) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:34:42]

JasonX (JasonX!n=jasonx@84.12.66.162) has quit (Client Quit)

[13:35:06]

JasonX (JasonX!n=jasonx@84.12.66.162) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:35:52]

otwin (otwin!n=otwin@outgoing.lmrl.lu) has left #mythtv-users ()

[13:36:30]

otwin (otwin!n=otwin@outgoing.lmrl.lu) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:46:05]

Kelerion:

oh great.. it was just my PSU that had blown up... been out and got a spare this morning and it don't fit

[13:46:09]

** Kelerion just pfft's **

[13:46:34]

greg__:

hehe

[13:47:05]

Kelerion:

the psu that came with my silverstone case is about 3/4" smaller

[13:47:30]

greg__:

well you can just attach it to the outside with sticky-backed plastic

[13:47:34]

greg__:

:)

[13:47:58]

Kelerion:

yeeeaaahhhh.. I *could*

[13:48:01]

greg__:

:)

[13:52:49]

dougl (dougl!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[13:54:02]

dougl (dougl!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:58:57]

pjn_ (pjn_!n=pat@cust5618.nsw01.dataco.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:59:12]

sphing__ (sphing__!n=sphing@n128-227-137-172.xlate.ufl.edu) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:59:22]

sphing__ is now known as sphing

[14:07:08]

neuro|laptop (neuro|laptop!n=neuro@neuro.me.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:08:06]

neuro|laptop (neuro|laptop!n=neuro@neuro.me.uk) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[14:08:29]

daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@216-107-194-166.gdt.cust.seg.NET) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:08:35]

neuro|laptop (neuro|laptop!n=neuro@neuro.me.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:08:57]

pjn (pjn!n=pat@cust5618.nsw01.dataco.com.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[14:09:22]

Baylink (Baylink!n=jra@24.129.168.240) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:10:04]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:15:45]

sphing_ (sphing_!n=sphing@64-238-183-45.hdlk.apt.gru.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[14:19:55]

deego (deego!n=user@12.166.244.34) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:30:30]

mchou:

GreyFoxx: Hey, is that msntv yours?

[14:36:35]

bmk789 (bmk789!n=bmk789@12-222-67-0.client.insightBB.com) has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/")

[14:39:36]

jnunez (jnunez!n=jnunez@static-68-236-174-125.ny325.east.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:44:04]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has quit ("Leaving")

[14:44:13]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:44:15]

jnunez (jnunez!n=jnunez@static-68-236-174-125.ny325.east.verizon.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[14:47:25]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-67-176-82-206.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:48:20]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-67-176-82-206.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[14:50:22]

dougl (dougl!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[14:52:47]

Juski:

Kelerion: I think Silverstone PSUs are made by FSP

[14:53:30]

mchou:

Juski: I wouldnt doubt it. But I thought FSP PSU are supposed to have a good rep

[14:54:02]

mchou:

Juski: kinda surprising to hear of a blow up.....

[14:54:19]

Juski:

you could try fixing the original PSU – maybe its internal fuse has just gone, though the root cause may well be the main switcher going short, or the input crowbar protection circuit

[14:54:44]

** stuarta thinks juski could blow up anything **

[14:54:48]

Juski:

it's worth the price of a new fuse to try

[14:54:56]

mchou:

Juski: you know much about fixing PSUs?

[14:55:12]

Juski:

switch-mode PSUs.. yeh I've repaired a few

[14:55:30]

Kelerion:

Juski, thanks... I'll have a look at it... it just went "pop" so could be the fuse

[14:55:52]

stuarta:

or a tranny

[14:55:59]

mchou:

Juski: my PSU has low voltage....Is there a way I can "fix" that?

[14:56:18]

Juski:

mchou: buy a one with bigger capacity

[14:56:20]

mchou:

Juski: uniformily low voltage on all rails

[14:56:28]

Juski:

unless you wanna change the main reservoir cap

[14:56:45]

mchou:

Juski: I dont think it's a capacity issue in this case

[14:56:51]

Juski:

usually something about 150 microfarads at 400V

[14:57:12]

Juski:

cost about £5 to change

[14:57:35]

Juski:

they're easy to spot – they're the biggest single component, usually

[14:57:39]

mchou:

Juski: Is that the big honking cap in the PSU?

[14:57:48]

Juski:

yup

[14:58:08]

mchou:

Juski: how do you discharge it prior to desolder?

[14:58:20]

Juski:

screwdriver

[14:58:59]

Juski:

if you just pull the plug while your pc is powered up it should drain itself ;-)

[14:59:11]

mchou:

Juski: so how do I know what value to replace it with?

[14:59:43]

mchou:

I mean in my case

[15:00:01]

Juski:

mchou: you read what value is on the case of the cap – it's ok to use a bigger value but make sure the voltage & temp rating of the new one are at least the same as the old one

[15:00:28]

mchou:

Juski: no no, if I wanna up the voltage.....

[15:00:33]

Juski:

though it's a good idea to replace it with a better one, especially the temperature rating

[15:01:05]

Juski:

mchou: if the voltages are too low, then the main reservoir cap is probably failing

[15:01:25]

Juski:

either that or you're overloading the PSU

[15:01:51]

mchou:

my PSU hasnt blown yet :)

[15:02:10]

mchou:

been this way for quite some time now

[15:02:17]

Juski:

in the latter case you should buy a better PSU – not necessarily more watts, but better quality & capable of delivering its rated current on the rails that matter

[15:02:24]

mchou:

like 2+ yrs

[15:02:42]

mchou:

already ordered a new PSU

[15:02:47]

Juski:

I've seen '400W' supplies not give out even 150W before dropping out of spec

[15:02:57]

woodwizzle (woodwizzle!n=corey@user-0cej715.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:03:02]

mchou:

yeah, I dont doubt it

[15:03:13]

otwin (otwin!n=otwin@outgoing.lmrl.lu) has left #mythtv-users ()

[15:03:17]

woodwizzle:

Is there a key or legend to all the symbols that show up at the bottom of the view recordings page?

[15:03:26]

woodwizzle:

like the gravestone and the book etc.

[15:03:39]

Juski:

woodwizzle: not really

[15:03:49]

mchou:

Juski: crappy asus/antec dont play nice with each other.....

[15:03:53]

woodwizzle:

I figure they have to do with which ones autoexpire and get commercial skipped maybe, but I have no clue which ones mean what

[15:04:02]

Juski:

the book means recordings are bookmarked. the flag means they've been commflagged

[15:04:18]

Juski:

it's up to the theme designer to make them intuitive ;-)

[15:04:36]

mchou:

Juski: how about the toilet roll :)

[15:04:52]

Juski:

erm... I dunno. can't say I've seen that one

[15:04:52]

woodwizzle:

i'm using the retro theme which doesn't look like they've been altered from the defaults. Maybe I'll have a hand at updating them

[15:05:01]

woodwizzle:

An uinrelated question: ...

[15:05:15]

mchou:

Juski: that's in the theme that's mostly gray

[15:05:30]

mchou:

forget the name of it atm. GANT?

[15:05:37]

woodwizzle:

If I were to add a 2nd tuner card so I can record more programs or watch tv and record... would I have to split my cable to go into both cards?

[15:05:49]

woodwizzle:

mchou, Yup

[15:06:00]

Juski:

woodwizzle: yep, if you're talking about the antenna coax

[15:06:21]

Juski:

if you take svid or composite, you'd need another cable/satellite box too

[15:06:33]

woodwizzle:

Juski, poop I already have it split once. I was hoping the 2nd chip could read the coax from the first card.

[15:07:01]

Juski:

woodwizzle: how would it do that?

[15:07:02]

o_cee (o_cee!n=o_cee@c83-249-78-51.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[15:07:12]

woodwizzle:

Juski, I dunno, PCI bus majick

[15:07:20]

Juski:

woodwizzle: time to buy an antenna amp then

[15:08:08]

woodwizzle:

A friend of mine has a very old hauppage card which he wants to get rid of cheap. I'm not ure of the chipset and all yet though

[15:08:23]

woodwizzle:

Having to deal with less scheduling confilcts would be awesome though

[15:08:30]

mchou:

woodwizzle: hell, it should be almost free

[15:08:44]

woodwizzle:

mchou, Practically yes =)

[15:08:44]

Juski:

oh and if you use a framegrabber card that connects to your soundcard, you'll also need another soundcard

[15:08:46]

mchou:

local surplus sells those for $10

[15:08:54]

mchou:

no joke

[15:09:02]

mchou:

the SW encoders

[15:09:13]

mchou:

not the pvr-x50s

[15:09:16]

greg__:

oh, yuck. was about to ask what kind of card. but sw encoder :(

[15:09:22]

Juski:

two software encoders (framegrabbers) and you need 2 soundcards

[15:09:24]

greg__:

my little via would have a fit

[15:09:46]

Juski:

unless the tuner cards have onboard audio capture too – which most don't

[15:09:48]

woodwizzle:

mchou, are the x50s the only hardware encoders?

[15:09:54]

mchou:

greg__: that's more a problem w your mobo :)

[15:10:02]

sphing (sphing!n=sphing@n128-227-137-172.xlate.ufl.edu) has quit ("Leaving")

[15:10:05]

Juski:

woodwizzle: not the only ones, but the only ones which work in linux, more or less

[15:10:07]

greg__:

hehe, nah, it's a design decision :)

[15:10:14]

mchou:

woodwizzle: from hauppauge, afaik, yes

[15:10:19]

greg__:

smallest pc frontend i could make that works well

[15:10:23]

woodwizzle:

mchou, aww damn

[15:10:25]

greg__:

well without going money crazy

[15:10:32]

woodwizzle:

mchou, so it probably wouldn't be worth getting then

[15:10:45]

mchou:

woodwizzle: depends on what cpu you got

[15:10:58]

mchou:

woodwizzle: where you live?

[15:11:03]

Juski:

sw encoders are erm... very pale by comparison with hauppauge pvr cards by the time you've encoded to mjpeg

[15:11:18]

woodwizzle:

AMD 2500. I do have it underclocked a tad because its in my living room and I wanna play the heat issues pretty safe

[15:11:18]

mchou:

Juski: huh???

[15:11:19]

greg__:

woodwizzle if its your friends card why not try it out?

[15:11:24]

greg__:

surely he'll let you try before you buy

[15:11:29]

greg__:

otherwise give him a slap

[15:11:39]

mchou:

woodwizzle: nah, 2500xp is plenty

[15:11:42]

Juski:

what I mean is, framegrabbers & mjpeg encoding <<<< PVR150 quality

[15:11:50]

mchou:

SW will work just fine for ya

[15:11:51]

woodwizzle:

greg__, Yeah, but mythtv has never really been "plug-nplay" just to try it out friendly for me.

[15:12:11]

greg__:

heh well, true, but i always assume mythtv users are linux hobbiests

[15:12:14]

greg__:

you'd want to be ;)

[15:12:22]

woodwizzle:

Oh I am.

[15:12:31]

mchou:

Juski: In what sense? I have a SW card that's better than 150 in quality

[15:12:46]

mchou:

and I have 4x150s :)

[15:12:55]

kold is now known as dougl

[15:13:03]

Juski:

I tried a leadtek pvr2000 around xmas time... in tvtime it looked fabulous, but by the time mjpeg had been done it looked as bad as VHS

[15:13:03]

woodwizzle:

I have another card I wonder about the usefullness of. Its a hardware dvd decoder that came with my first computer that had a dvd drive

[15:13:16]

woodwizzle:

could that be used to transcode, or do anything else useful?

[15:13:24]

Juski:

woodwizzle: nope

[15:13:33]

dougl is now known as dougiel

[15:13:42]

dougiel is now known as douglas

[15:13:46]

mchou:

woodwizzle: if it's a hollywood+ it could be useful

[15:13:47]

douglas (douglas!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[15:14:03]

woodwizzle:

mchou, It may be...

[15:14:04]

Juski:

are there linux drivers for those?

[15:14:13]

mchou:

woodwizzle: but you'd e better off using 2500+

[15:14:19]

woodwizzle:

its a REal Magic EM8300... hollywood_ sounds real familiar

[15:14:34]

mchou:

Juski: sure, for sigma designs hollywood

[15:14:36]

dougl (dougl!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:14:45]

woodwizzle:

This is a sigma designs

[15:14:46]

mchou:

plus, that is.

[15:15:07]

Juski:

in any case I doubt they'd be supported by myth

[15:15:19]

mchou:

personally I think it's way too much work and hassle to get it all working

[15:15:36]

mchou:

Juski: huh?

[15:15:39]

greg__:

if you've 2.5gig amd you don't need to get it working i'd have thought

[15:16:12]

Juski:

mchou: I doubt mythtv supports output through a sigma designs dvd decoder wossit

[15:16:13]

woodwizzle:

Well its laying around here not plugged into anything

[15:16:29]

Juski:

sell it on Ebay & buy a proper tuner card ;-)

[15:16:39]

mchou:

Juski: it's been modded by Greyfoxx to support afaik

[15:16:41]

woodwizzle:

maybe I'll build a frontend box for my bedroom with it

[15:17:05]

mchou:

woodwizzle: why you using all this old tech?

[15:17:24]

woodwizzle:

mchou, I have lots of old computer parts

[15:17:38]

mchou:

woodwizzle: I really dont think it's worthwhile, considering you have 2500+

[15:18:01]

mchou:

wwalker: if you didnt, that might be a diff story.....

[15:18:19]

Juski:

really? I'm impressed if that's the case

[15:18:23]

mchou:

anything above 1Ghz dont need no stinking HW decoder

[15:18:38]

lightx (lightx!n=lightx@188.79.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:18:40]

Juski:

no wonder mythtv is so hard to get working when so many folks use antique hardware ;-)

[15:18:48]

woodwizzle:

well if I were to build a frontend box though it probably wouldn't be 1ghz

[15:19:41]

mchou:

woodwizzle: frontends need more cpu than backends, generally speaking

[15:19:45]

greg__:

my frontend runs at 800mhz and it's perfect

[15:19:51]

greg__:

damn boy racers!

[15:19:59]

greg__:

it's underclocked from 1.3ghz

[15:20:47]

woodwizzle:

My mythbox is a beast, but it is also my samba/nfs file server

[15:21:01]

woodwizzle:

and it runs front and backend

[15:21:07]

greg__:

mines front and backend too

[15:21:14]

o_cee (o_cee!n=o_cee@c83-249-78-51.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:21:14]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v o_cee

[15:21:20]

greg__:

it takes a while to do any commflagging tho :)

[15:21:29]

greg__:

and then the commflagging never works, so i really should just turn that off

[15:21:45]

mchou:

commflag works fine here :)

[15:21:54]

mchou:

woodwizzle: where do you live?

[15:21:55]

woodwizzle:

i've just got my DVR functions working. Havn't got to test commflagging yet.

[15:21:59]

greg__:

you in US mchou?

[15:22:01]

woodwizzle:

mchou, Flori-duh

[15:22:04]

mchou:

yup

[15:22:09]

wwalker:

I got horrible recordings (red and green checkerboarding) when there was any disk IO or other CPU stuff going on on my machine

[15:22:14]

greg__:

i'm in ireland, so we get UK channels. i saw lots of ppl saying on the mailing list they can't commflag uk channels

[15:22:16]

wwalker:

(sempron 2200+

[15:22:26]

greg__:

i'm waiting for someone to post saying they can, then they're gonna get interrogated ;)

[15:22:31]

mchou:

woodwizzle: I'll sell you a HW encoder for cheap.....

[15:22:50]

woodwizzle:

what kind

[15:22:50]

mchou:

woodwizzle: PM if interested :)

[15:22:51]

_rjune:

woodwizzle: have you guys figured out how to vote yet?

[15:23:19]

mchou:

_rjune: hahah!! That's not the problem with FL

[15:23:27]

_rjune:

it's one of many

[15:23:28]

stuarta:

greg__: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't

[15:23:31]

woodwizzle:

I think I know how to, but who knows, maybe I was one of the hanging chads

[15:23:35]

mchou:

_rjune: it's all that vote rigging :)

[15:23:46]

greg__:

i get lots of false positives and lots of false negatives stuarta

[15:24:04]

greg__:

skip ahead is good enough for me tbh tho

[15:24:25]

_rjune:

mchou: if gov. jeb is like his brother, that's possible too, but Al Gore was quite explicit in stating that floridians were too stupid to understand the butterfly ballot

[15:24:32]

stuarta:

overall, it's rubbish. but nobody has been bothered to fix it yet..

[15:24:57]

mchou:

_rjune: dammit, al gore was right! :)

[15:24:59]

greg__:

strikes me as a difficult problem to fix

[15:25:30]

stuarta:

need several different methods to detect all the commercials.

[15:25:59]

stuarta:

aspect ratio changes has been suggested....

[15:28:53]

kurre2 (kurre2!n=tomimo@a80-186-64-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit ("leaving")

[15:29:35]

Captain_Murdoch:

mythcommflag already uses aspect ratio changes, both letterbox/pillarbox and actual physical aspect changes in the stream.

[15:31:21]

greg__:

it can tell that in an encoded analog stream? Does it check for black letterboxing in the image?

[15:31:25]

Captain_Murdoch:

people pop up every 6 months thinking that they can do a better job at flagging and they work on it a while and then give up because they only suceed in making it worse. It's not an exact science like a lot of people think.

[15:31:33]

greg__:

i know the dvb stream itself would have AR in it

[15:31:36]

Captain_Murdoch:

yes, it checks for letterbox/pillarbox.

[15:31:40]

greg__:

cool

[15:32:06]

mchou:

Captain_Murdoch: they pop up that often? :)

[15:32:55]

Captain_Murdoch:

it scans the frame to see if the top and bottom are black and ditto for the sides. if it fits within a certain spec, it assumes the frame is letterbox/pillarbox. then it looks at the list of frames and decides whether the video is letterbox/pillarboxed and if so uses that info to help identify commercials.

[15:33:10]

greg__:

cool

[15:33:25]

greg__:

must play merry havoc with films that go letterbox for panaromic shots

[15:33:38]

Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:33:54]

Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, maybe 6–8 months. :) and it seems like anytime someone mentions some method for identifying commercials on the mailing list, that everyone pops in with their own ideas but noone wants to (or can) code them. :)

[15:34:16]

JasonX (JasonX!n=jasonx@84.12.66.162) has left #mythtv-users ()

[15:34:22]

Captain_Murdoch:

well, the letterbox/pillarbox code is only used as an indicator, it's not the final say on what's show and what's commercial

[15:34:48]

grantm (grantm!n=grant@kolob.wingateservices.com) has quit (Connection reset by peer)

[15:34:56]

greg__:

stuff like the blank frame looks like it should be very reliable. that must be an american thing, they don't seem to appear in the ukl broadcasts i get

[15:35:04]

Captain_Murdoch:

the 'All' method uses weights, it finds blocks of show and then weights each block based on certain criteria to determine whehter it thinks that block is show or commercial

[15:35:36]

mchou:

greg__: so how would you suggest commercials in the UK be detected?

[15:35:56]

mchou:

like is there a dead giveaway?

[15:36:00]

greg__:

i haven't, look up : "greg__ strikes me as a difficult problem to fix"

[15:36:09]

greg__:

i'm talking about it, not criticising it

[15:36:16]

stuarta:

black magic :)

[15:36:27]

greg__:

aye, like i said, strikes me as the hardest part of mythtv

[15:36:28]

Captain_Murdoch:

blank-frame used to be very reliable back 3 years ago when I wrote that code, but over time it became less and less reliable. There are even some shows like Law & Order that put a blank frame at 30 or 60 seconds into the show, possibly to fool blank-frame detection, that started messing things up, so I started working on other methods. About the only thing I work on now is 'All' and that's not that much since it usually wor

[15:36:28]

Captain_Murdoch:

for me.

[15:36:42]

mchou:

greg__: I didnt say you were criticizing. I'm asking what commercials in the UK are like

[15:36:46]

greg__:

i've worked with mpeg streams, i can work with drivers. stuff likethat either works or doesn't

[15:36:57]

greg__:

they're shite mchou :) they have no blank frames, usually don't change AR

[15:37:05]

greg__:

the volume goes up

[15:37:07]

greg__:

a fair bit

[15:37:13]

mchou:

greg__: how aboute volume?

[15:37:16]

greg__:

but that happens during scenes in movies too

[15:37:38]

greg__:

volume is the biggest give away i'd guess

[15:37:42]

greg__:

they go annoyingly loud

[15:37:49]

Juski:

greg__: the perceived volume goes up, not actual volume

[15:37:50]

Captain_Murdoch:

greg__ if you understand that, that's a bonus. :) too many people think it should be 0 or 100%, nothing in between. I wrote the code and I don't even use the auto-skip because I know it will probably never be 100% accurate.

[15:38:00]

ElevenBravo (ElevenBravo!n=ElevenBr@cpe-67-10-112-154.gt.res.rr.com) has quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com")

[15:38:10]

greg__:

perceived volume goes up? really?

[15:38:16]

Captain_Murdoch:

the audio "compression" I think is what it is called.

[15:38:34]

Juski:

yes – commercials are compressed to within a millimetre of the regulations

[15:38:47]

mchou:

Juski: what the diff betw percieved/actual volume?

[15:38:52]

znoG_ is now known as znoG

[15:38:54]

greg__:

so it really isn't louder in a decibel sense of the word?

[15:39:06]

Juski:

exactly

[15:39:10]

greg__:

lol that's cool

[15:39:15]

Captain_Murdoch:

right now the flagger does nothing with audio. I'd like to delve into that area some,but am no audio expert. The flagger was the first time I've delved into video coding as well.

[15:39:15]

greg__:

annoying, but cool :)

[15:39:21]

Juski:

it _sounds_ louder

[15:39:35]

mchou:

Juski: you're incorrect

[15:39:45]

Juski:

mchou I'm not

[15:39:59]

greg__:

heh

[15:40:03]

mchou:

Juski: load up a clip in Vegas and you'll understand why

[15:40:06]

Juski:

you can have two piece of audio peaking at the same level, with the same average level and one could sound louder

[15:40:34]

greg__:

because it's inane waffle about ambulance chasing solicitors or weight loss products?

[15:40:34]

greg__:

;)

[15:41:12]

greg__:

i'll have to google that audio compression think. i find that sort of trick of the mind interesting

[15:41:12]

mchou:

Juski: you any nonlinear editor that displays sound tracks and you'll see exactly what's going on.

[15:41:17]

Niklas_E (Niklas_E!n=ask@c213-100-244-163.swipnet.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:41:27]

mchou:

Juski: s/you/use

[15:41:58]

ole_schoola:

it's called 'dynamic range'

[15:42:15]

stuarta:

fft's come to mind...

[15:42:23]

Juski:

yes, not overall 'loudness' in terms of peak levels

[15:42:56]

Niklas_E:

if the tvkard works with mplayer and tvtime and doesn't work with mythtv, but have been working before I updated the drivers, is it mythth it is wrong? the video starts at normal speed but slows down after a while and I haven't sound either

[15:42:59]

Juski:

so you've accused me of being wrong yet just backed me up

[15:43:03]

ole_schoola:

stuarta: get your hands on Smaart Live if you want to do fft

[15:43:20]

mchou:

Juski: huh?? how did I back you up?

[15:43:33]

stuarta:

Smart Live?

[15:43:42]

ole_schoola:

Smaart Live

[15:43:49]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:43:51]

Juski:

I said it's got nothing to do with the overall level & you said it's to do with dynamic range

[15:43:52]

mchou:

Juski: I said use a NLE that displays sound tracks

[15:43:59]

ole_schoola:

company called SIA makes it, used to be owned by JBL

[15:44:11]

mchou:

I never said anything about dynamic range

[15:44:16]

mchou:

that wasnt me

[15:44:20]

Juski:

ah

[15:44:42]

Juski:

anyway it'd be harder to determine than just the peak levels is what I'm saying – it's more complex

[15:44:46]

greg__:

just reading up on it now, says the entire add is at a constant high volume as opposed to having the normal highs/lows.

[15:44:51]

stuarta:

old_schoola: that wouldn't be much use inside the commflagger :)

[15:45:03]

greg__:

well, if thats the case then a period of show where the difference between min and max audios is way smaller than normal

[15:45:20]

greg__:

would be a part with comrpessed audio, eg an ad

[15:45:24]

ole_schoola:

stuarta, no but it IS a way to fft analyze ;)

[15:45:42]

Juski:

suppose that'd be simpler than a lot of what commflag is doing

[15:45:43]

stuarta:

can do that with audacity IIRC

[15:46:21]

ole_schoola:

really? didn't think audacity could measure time/energy/freq

[15:46:55]

nuxil:

hi guys,, i got angry at mythtv cos i cant figure how to record and watch tv at the same time,, i got a pvr 500 card so i should be able to do so,, anyway i did hit my keybord. while i was watching a channel.. then suddenly a mini windows with another channel poped up on the screen.. it was like watching 2 thing at the same time.. anyone know why or how that is posseble

[15:46:57]

stuarta:

emphasis on IIRC :) Been a while since I played with it so could be talking rubbish

[15:47:15]

tomimo (tomimo!n=kurre@a80-186-64-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit ("Gotta get going ...")

[15:47:22]

greg__:

nuxil thats picture in picture, pip

[15:47:27]

mchou:

nuxil: yeah, it's called you hit the wrong key

[15:47:32]

greg__:

i can't remember the key bound to it tho, maybe v

[15:47:37]

greg__:

though i dunno why i think it's v :)

[15:47:58]

** stuarta makes a note to test pip one day. **

[15:48:04]

nuxil:

ok.. i'll try v

[15:48:07]

nuxil:

lol

[15:48:09]

greg__:

pip doesn't work in xvmc so i live without it :)

[15:48:26]

greg__:

probably for the best, one tv channel is enough ;)

[15:48:56]

stuarta:

no xmvc for me. anyway I don't watch livetv

[15:49:18]

greg__:

i like mythtv for xvmc, i can pause films if the phone rings then get to skip the commercials because of the backlog

[15:49:22]

greg__:

for live tv even

[15:49:27]

greg__:

bah, got xvmc on my brain now

[15:50:27]

nuxil:

ok , V it is..

[15:50:38]

nuxil:

now for my recording problem

[15:50:52]

nuxil:

why cany i watch and record at the same time

[15:50:58]

greg__:

well you've clearly got two working tuners, if pip works

[15:51:02]

greg__:

so that's the good news :)

[15:51:19]

nuxil:

yes.. pvr 500 has 2 tuners

[15:51:37]

greg__:

so what goes wrong if you're recording and try to watch tv?

[15:51:49]

greg__:

if i press record and then want to watch channels i always have to escape out of live tv then go back in

[15:51:55]

greg__:

i can't just channel up/down

[15:52:13]

greg__:

or is it a recording schedueled through the epg?

[15:52:36]

schultmc (schultmc!n=schultmc@zealot.progeny.com) has quit ("Client exiting")

[15:52:46]

schultmc (schultmc!n=schultmc@zealot.progeny.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:52:59]

nuxil:

well when i do a schedueled recordin,, when it 30 secs before the recording stars i get this popup giving me some options

[15:53:14]

nuxil:

watch tv while recording

[15:53:22]

nuxil:

esape to menu

[15:53:34]

nuxil:

and do not record

[15:53:45]

greg__:

k, what happens if you escape back to menu after it starts recording?

[15:53:53]

greg__:

can you then watch live tv, with the other tuner?

[15:54:17]

nuxil:

yes i can go back an watch tv.. but nothing is recorded

[15:54:21]

greg__:

i've had to do that, it decided to use the tuner i was watchign tv with instead of the otehr one. so i had to escape, then watch tv again which gives me the 2nd tuner

[15:54:30]

nuxil:

i checked ion my recoding dir..

[15:54:48]

greg__:

under system status, theres a tuner status bit

[15:54:53]

greg__:

you can see what your two tuners are doing

[15:55:07]

greg__:

let it record the show, escape to menu and check that

[15:55:40]

greg__:

after that i'm out of ideas, you got logging turned on?

[15:55:56]

nuxil:

logging turned on?

[15:55:58]

Juski:

anyway mchou: I'm speaking from experience with UK adverts. In occasional cases the programme content is measurably quieter but that doesn't happen very often. One of my cable channels has advert sound 6dB hotter than programmes, so that'd be a dead giveaway but that's the only case I've ever encountered

[15:56:21]

greg__:

Juski, have a look at http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/G3.HTM

[15:56:34]

nuxil:

greg__ i'll try your method.. see if it works..

[15:56:41]

greg__:

it's about the annoying things they do with sound in ads

[15:56:58]

greg__:

nuxil if that fails try the mailing list i guess, and turn on logging

[15:57:24]

nuxil:

ok. thxz for your help so far

[15:57:32]

Juski:

greg__: I have a good idea what they do – had 2 weeks' experience in a commercial production dept of a radio station when I was at college

[15:57:44]

greg__:

ahh cool

[15:58:17]

greg__:

came as news to me. i assumed they just bumped up the volume

[15:58:34]

Kelerion:

Juski, you worked for the BBC?

[15:59:03]

Juski:

Kelerion: no, it was Metro Radio

[15:59:26]

Kelerion:

ahh.. must be a Manchester one... never heard of it

[15:59:45]

Juski:

and only a work placement, where I was overseen by one Ian Britton winner of many radio ad awards

[16:00:00]

Juski:

Kelerion: I've only lived here 9 years ;-)

[16:00:18]

Kelerion:

btw.. took the "plain white unmarked fuse" outta the psu.. jotted down the details that are on the pcb next to the fuse... will take it down to maplins tomorrow

[16:00:24]

Juski:

I wanted to work in radio before that placement

[16:00:39]

Kelerion:

where we you before Manchester then?

[16:01:22]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")

[16:03:20]

Juski:

lived in Co. Durham about 15 miles from newcastle most of my life

[16:03:27]

Jasper^off (Jasper^off!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[16:05:39]

tomimo (tomimo!n=kurre@a80-186-64-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:08:21]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #Mythtv-users

[16:16:37]

splAt1 is now known as splat1

[16:17:49]

crayzee (crayzee!n=crayzee@user-173-239-151-83.e7even.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:18:00]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[16:18:42]

Niklas_E (Niklas_E!n=ask@c213-100-244-163.swipnet.se) has quit ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta2 T-Rex")

[16:19:00]

Juski:

Kelerion: there weren't any signs of burning / exploded components were there?

[16:19:48]

scopeuk (scopeuk!n=Scope@cpc3-mfld2-3-1-cust176.nott.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:22:21]

UBL (UBL!i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[16:24:23]

** Beirdo yawns **

[16:29:28]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[16:29:35]

geoff__998e (geoff__998e!n=geoff@c-67-176-82-206.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:31:45]

Kelerion:

nope.. nothing like that that I can see

[16:32:20]

bird603568 (bird603568!n=bird@c-68-34-48-248.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[16:33:41]

Juski:

Kelerion: might've just been a spike that took the overvoltage protection of the PSU into effect. called 'crowbar'.. it effectively shorts out the supply to make the fuse blow to protect the PSU

[16:33:47]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:34:00]

Kelerion:

have never had an internal fuse on any power supply go – I knew psu's had them but it's like 5 years since I last opened a psu..

[16:34:32]

Kelerion:

knowing the electrics in this how... that wouldn't suprise me in the least

[16:34:38]

Kelerion:

this house.. even

[16:35:08]

Juski:

sometimes the fuse doesn't blow in time, with disastrous consequences

[16:35:23]

Kelerion:

boom-boom mobo?

[16:35:29]

Beirdo:

kaPOW

[16:35:30]

xris (xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:35:30]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris

[16:35:45]

Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[16:38:21]

xris (xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[16:40:16]

Mobleman (Mobleman!i=Mobleman@82.150.72.15) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:42:29]

coffee88 (coffee88!n=mike@dsl-217-155-108-166.zen.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:43:29]

wwalker is now known as wwalker_battery

[16:43:36]

Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:44:14]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-71-196-246-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:44:25]

Baylink (Baylink!n=jra@24.129.168.240) has quit ("User disconnected")

[16:48:40]

crayzee:

Hello. I am from the UK and am using both Terrestrial and DVB-T tv-cards. Is it possible to share the same source between both types of cards, or must I have two different sources like I currently do?

[16:50:07]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:50:10]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[16:50:29]

stuarta:

one datasource works fine.

[16:51:43]

crayzee:

So I can use the " mplexid serviceid atscsrcid" columns at the same time as "freqid"?

[16:53:18]

stuarta:

do it in mythtv-setup, just associate the datasource with both cards, then scan for channels

[16:56:33]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-71-196-246-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[16:56:57]

crayzee:

stuarta, ta

[16:57:00]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-71-196-246-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:58:02]

geoff_ (geoff_!n=geoff@c-71-196-246-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[16:58:26]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:00:40]

Mobleman (Mobleman!i=Mobleman@82.150.72.15) has quit ()

[17:00:46]

geoff__998e (geoff__998e!n=geoff@c-67-176-82-206.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has quit (Connection timed out)

[17:01:19]

Juski:

crayzee: you might have problems with that – another user has reported that it used to work in 0.18 but doesn't in 0.19

[17:01:59]

wwalker_battery is now known as wwalker

[17:02:23]

crayzee:

Juski, ta

[17:02:35]

Juski:

I think it'll be okay if you have seperate channels for analogue & digital

[17:02:40]

crayzee:

Juski, is that likely to be fixed later?

[17:02:56]

Juski:

crayzee: I don't think so

[17:03:17]

Juski:

if the mplexid field is populated for a channel, mythtv assumes it's a DVB source

[17:03:19]

stuarta:

Juski: I'm running 2 dvb-t & 1 datasource no problem

[17:03:44]

Juski:

stuarta: I think crayzee meant he's wanting to mix analogue & digital

[17:04:03]

Juski:

I run 2 dvb-t with one datasource too, but I don't mix

[17:04:05]

stuarta:

I read it the other way :)

[17:04:27]

crayzee:

Yeah I want to mix 2 terrestrial with one DVB-t.

[17:04:43]

crayzee:

*2 analog with 1 dvb

[17:04:49]

Juski:

crayzee: call it 'analogue' rather than terrestrial to avoid confusion

[17:04:54]

Juski:

;-)

[17:04:56]

stuarta:

then you need a dvb datasource & analog datasource

[17:05:42]

crayzee:

OK

[17:05:42]

crayzee:

Ta

[17:05:45]

Juski:

you could still use one datasource I think

[17:06:05]

stuarta:

could be tricky tho

[17:06:20]

Juski:

yeh it'd depend on what channel numbers you use

[17:06:39]

Juski:

although channel numbers tend only to matter much if you use live tv

[17:07:01]

kothog (kothog!n=kothog@S010600500480af12.gv.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:07:01]

ole_schoola:

i have ATSC card, pvr-350, and two datasources and i get overlap in the scheduler

[17:07:14]

Kelerion:

if you had one datasource.. and for the digital channels the mplex field was populated and for analog channels both mplex and freqid field was populated... what'd myth do with that?

[17:07:36]

ole_schoola:

ie: channel 11 analogue is simulcast on 11_1 digital and the scheduler will record each

[17:07:47]

Juski:

Kelerion: it'd assume the channels with mplex populated were digital

[17:08:03]

Jasper:

hmm Kelerion ....allready 3 days for a bootloader :P

[17:08:05]

Juski:

look in the source

[17:08:23]

Kelerion:

and therefore have a preference for the dvb card?

[17:08:42]

Kelerion:

that's how I figured it would work anyways

[17:08:42]

Juski:

Kelerion: yes, like it'll _always_ use the dvb card

[17:08:50]

ole_schoola:

i checked the xmltvids for both and they are different

[17:08:57]

xris (xris!n=xris@c-24-19-148-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:08:57]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris

[17:09:33]

Kelerion:

ahh.. I can see the problem there

[17:09:44]

** Kelerion just shuts up and goes back to reading email.. lol **

[17:10:16]

Juski:

I was confused til I looked in the source & the guy with the original query pointed it out

[17:10:39]

Juski:

to get around it you'd need to re-jig the DB & the way the recorder works

[17:13:15]

Hoxzer (Hoxzer!n=niko@a80-186-169-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:18:50]

riksta (riksta!n=rick@213.121.151.210) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:19:15]

Juski:

either way it's not worth losing any sleep over. after all, MCE won't let you use 2 types in the same machine full stop

[17:21:23]

stuarta (stuarta!n=stuarta@81.1.94.11) has quit ("home time")

[17:21:36]

Hoxzer:

Juski: just tell me honestly what do you think about me?

[17:23:04]

Hoxzer:

sometimes I wonder has he ignored me :)

[17:25:44]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:26:04]

Kelerion:

thats wierd.. samba is chewing up 75% of my cpu and nothing is reading from it

[17:26:59]

Kelerion:

a couple of machines have a share mounted from it.. but they ain't actually opening any files

[17:30:21]

coffee88:

I really like the new formatting of Beirdo's channel logs. But.....

[17:30:37]

coffee88:

Makes it a lot harder to get away with reading them at work!

[17:34:33]

drdaz_ (drdaz_!n=drdaz@212.242.226.63) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:36:02]

Beirdo:

sorry, dude :)

[17:36:18]

coffee88:

np

[17:36:49]

kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@c-24-19-148-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:36:49]

Beirdo:

maybe we can make a "boss-won't-notice-as-much" skin sometime

[17:38:11]

Hoxzer (Hoxzer!n=niko@a80-186-169-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[17:38:19]

coffee88:

That would be good! Black and white I can get away with all day....

[17:39:16]

Beirdo:

or maybe you need a better boss :)

[17:40:32]

xris:

coffee88: it's skinnable.. I just haven't had time to work much on the skin.

[17:40:35]

crayzee (crayzee!n=crayzee@user-173-239-151-83.e7even.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[17:40:36]

coffee88:

Nah, can't complain there at all really. "Work at home? Sure, no problem"

[17:41:55]

coffee88:

xris: No drama! This is a busy work time, anyway... I guess that's what they pay me to do after all.

[17:42:22]

** ille_ is working on a minimal white skin/theme **

[17:42:54]

** ille_ first fixed a m3u playlists for mythweb-music **

[17:44:41]

xris:

ille_: we're talking about the irc log viewer, not mythweb

[17:44:52]

xris:

and I won't accept any patches to mythmusic that aren't a complete rewrite

[17:45:12]

ille_:

xris, aha

[17:45:52]

ille_:

xris: how do you want the new mythweb?

[17:46:00]

xris:

not mythweb.. just the music portion.

[17:46:05]

ille_:

xris, music i ment

[17:46:23]

xris:

it just needs to line up with the way the rest of the code is.. not some giant ugly object

[17:46:36]

pleemans (pleemans!n=peter@d54C24BC0.access.telenet.be) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:46:52]

ille_:

xris, Yes, I saw it was only one class

[17:47:38]

xris:

I honestly just want all of the parts of mythweb to match.. the music and video sections don't, and I don't want to touch them until they do.

[17:47:47]

xris:

I don't use either of them, so it's a low priority for me to fix.

[17:48:18]

ille_:

xris, now I will use the music part since I got the m3u streaming working

[17:48:48]

coffee88:

I'm still having no luck getting the backend status page to load (different BE/web server). Does it work differently (e.g. protocols?) to the other pages at all?

[17:48:50]

ille_:

xris, used gnump3d before pointing at the music directory

[17:49:23]

kormoc:

coffee88, it uses the fopen.urls option to talk to the backend, which returns the page

[17:49:56]

coffee88:

kormoc: Is that the only page that does? Would a firewall block that from happening?

[17:50:07]

xris:

ille_: I'm working with someone to rewrite mythweb... his patches may actually do the playlist thing already.

[17:50:17]

kormoc:

coffee88, yeah, it's the only page that does, and yeah, a firewall would prevent that

[17:50:25]

kormoc:

coffee88, the rest of the pages talk via the mysql server

[17:50:34]

coffee88:

Ah that will be why then...

[17:50:41]

Hoxzer (Hoxzer!n=niko@a80-186-169-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:50:53]

ille_:

xris: I saw a patch for editing the playlists, but I did not mention downloading them

[17:51:08]

ille_:

xris: it did not

[17:51:34]

ille_:

xris: I'm swedish, so you must foregive my spelling

[17:52:13]

xris:

ille_: your spelling is fine.

[17:52:36]

ille_:

xris: thanks

[17:54:17]

ille_:

xris: well, If you need help rewriting mythweb-music, I can contribute.

[17:54:22]

phatmonkey (phatmonkey!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:54:59]

Led-Hed (Led-Hed!n=Led-Hed@209.209.124.226) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:55:13]

lars-ut-away is now known as lars-ut

[17:55:57]

xris:

ille_: email me and I'll cc you on the discussion... xris*forevermore.net

[17:56:29]

xris:

heh. you'd think I was worried about harvesters grabbing my address from the channel logs, when I know for a fact that I coded protection for that into the new log display. heh

[17:58:19]

ille_:

hehe

[18:01:46]

AranC23 (AranC23!n=acox@209.227.165.129) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:02:39]

Beirdo:

hehe

[18:02:43]

coffee88:

kormoc: Is there an outward port that I can open for the fopen to work? Google's not helping... Or I'm phrasing the Q wrong...

[18:04:11]

kormoc:

coffee88, you need the web server to be able to talk to port 6543 (I beleive?) on the backend

[18:04:23]

Beirdo:

I think it's 6544

[18:04:36]

kormoc:

ahh

[18:04:39]

Beirdo:

6543 being the backend protocol port (or am I out of it?)

[18:05:03]

kormoc:

I'm so out of it today, I already read gentoo as google once today

[18:05:14]

Beirdo:

hehe. just gentoo it

[18:05:15]

Beirdo:

hehe

[18:05:15]

coffee88:

Cool. I'll give them a go. As long as I can remember my iptables commands....

[18:05:24]

kormoc:

Gentoo 2006-r1 released and I think to my self, Wow, google has a os?!

[18:05:42]

Beirdo:

that's pretty funny

[18:07:35]

Beirdo:

I think I'm gonna get pretty stupid pretty fast if I don't go get lunch soon

[18:07:51]

coffee88:

hey presto! A working status page! Thanks guys.

[18:08:17]

kormoc:

hehe

[18:08:27]

Beirdo:

oh JEEZ

[18:08:35]

Beirdo:

/dev/ubda 6450528 6123076 327452 95% /

[18:08:40]

Beirdo:

that's a paddlin

[18:08:50]

kormoc:

hehe

[18:08:59]

kormoc:

I'm scared to post my disk usage

[18:10:19]

Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[18:11:39]

kormoc:

looks like I'm upto 1.3 TB at home, or 1432000000000 bytes

[18:11:58]

xris:

kormoc: that's insane.

[18:12:11]

xris:

I need more drives of the same size so I can use raid instead of lvm

[18:13:39]

Beirdo:

hehe

[18:13:47]

Beirdo:

my 900G RAID is humming along just fine

[18:13:55]

Beirdo:

the stats there was my linode

[18:14:00]

Beirdo:

(where the logs are currently)

[18:14:01]

Beirdo:

d

[18:14:20]

xris:

ahh

[18:14:23]

xris:

that's not good, then

[18:14:26]

Beirdo:

OK, got it to 90% full

[18:14:39]

kormoc:

the 320 gig western digital sata drives are rather nice for the price

[18:14:47]

Beirdo:

be careful

[18:14:56]

xris:

kormoc: yes. but to add the price of a RAID card busts my budget.

[18:15:05]

Beirdo:

some RAID controllers don't like the JB-series disks

[18:15:06]

** kormoc raises an eyebrow at Beirdo. **

[18:15:12]

Beirdo:

as they do stupid things.

[18:15:25]

xris:

Beirdo: JB is PATA

[18:15:26]

kormoc:

xris, hehe, fair nuff.

[18:15:28]

Beirdo:

like retry a write or read automatically if there's an errror

[18:15:34]

Beirdo:

OK, the SATA equivalent

[18:15:41]

Beirdo:

JD? I can't remember

[18:15:42]

** coffee88 feels deja vu that another drive manufacturer discussion is about to kick off... **

[18:15:43]

xris:

Beirdo: that's why WD released the raid edition drives.

[18:15:46]

xris:

KD

[18:16:14]

Beirdo:

yeah, WD made "RAID edition" drives so they can charge more for a drive that isn't dumb :)

[18:16:23]

Beirdo:

hhe

[18:16:26]

kormoc:

Beirdo, that's most drives tho, that have the retry issue

[18:16:32]

Beirdo:

just be careful what kinda drives you use

[18:16:33]

xris:

Beirdo: they don't cost more

[18:16:41]

Beirdo:

they *shouldn't*

[18:16:45]

ole_schoola:

that marketing guy probably got a bonus for coming up with that one

[18:16:47]

Beirdo:

but many stores do charge more

[18:16:54]

kormoc:

it's sorta ata spec to retry over and over again, and the RE editions don't follow the specs

[18:17:02]

Beirdo:

um, no

[18:17:09]

kormoc:

ooh?

[18:17:09]

xris:

Beirdo: then that's f'd up... the drives basically just disable write caching and other stuff that f's with raid performance/reliability

[18:17:14]

Beirdo:

ATA spec says if you fail, say it's failed

[18:17:52]

kormoc:

on a hard failure

[18:18:00]

kormoc:

the RE drives instantly fail on a soft failure

[18:18:10]

Juski:

unless you turn that feature off

[18:18:35]

Beirdo:

yeah

[18:19:19]

Juski:

I've evaluated RE drives.. don't use em for non-raid applications

[18:19:23]

Beirdo:

OK, drive space back under control. 90% is the sweet-point

[18:20:36]

Juski:

these new seagate 500GB models I've got are nice

[18:20:42]

Beirdo:

heh

[18:20:52]

Beirdo:

I like my Seagate 300G ones I got on Saturday

[18:21:00]

Beirdo:

I ain't paying for 400G or 500G drives right now

[18:21:03]

Beirdo:

not worth it to me

[18:21:15]

Juski:

cool, quiet, not as fast as maxtors but they like being near other disks more

[18:21:18]

Juski:

like 5 times more

[18:21:22]

xris:

Juski: yeah. they're missing features that the raid controller provides, but are basically necessary for normal drive operation.

[18:21:42]

Beirdo:

I don't want maxtors

[18:21:45]

Beirdo:

ever

[18:21:54]

xris:

yeah, maxtor (even though it's now seagate) isn't worth it.

[18:22:08]

Beirdo:

maxtor got bought?

[18:22:10]

Beirdo:

since when?

[18:22:17]

kormoc:

a month or three ago

[18:22:21]

kormoc:

somewhere in that range

[18:22:21]

Juski:

december or so

[18:22:24]

Beirdo:

eek

[18:22:40]

kormoc:

Seagate is gonna put maxtor tech into their drives!

[18:22:41]

Beirdo:

the only good Maxtor drives were the ex-Quantum ones

[18:23:16]

Beirdo:

Seagate won't likely adopt the shit parts, just the good parts :)

[18:23:29]

kormoc:

I don't have much faith in seagate myself :P

[18:23:29]

Beirdo:

unless the marketroids prevail

[18:23:43]

xanderp:

Fujitsu's are pretty much crap in my opinion... always fail on my raid sets at work..

[18:23:53]

Beirdo:

they've consistantly made good drives for a LONG time. (seagate)

[18:24:00]

Beirdo:

Fushitsu's worse than Maxtor

[18:25:05]

xris:

Beirdo: we really only sell seagate and WD. more WD lately, which is an interesting market trend, though the drives seem to hold up just as well as seagate in the field.

[18:25:11]

xanderp:

maxtor lost my vote back in the day when they were selling drives with 'superstacker' or whatever to say your 50meg harddrive was 100meg (through compression) and trying to sell the drive as a 100meg...

[18:25:17]

Beirdo:

well that's a good thing, xris :)

[18:25:32]

xanderp:

i've had pretty good luck with WD

[18:25:33]

xris:

no one in the industry seems to want to touch maxtor

[18:25:43]

Beirdo:

maybe (just maybe) WD will be trustworthy, but I've been bitten SO many times by them in the past

[18:26:03]

Beirdo:

I have ONE Maxtor drive, but only because I needed a disk immediately.

[18:26:13]

Beirdo:

and I replaced it with something else within a month

[18:26:18]

Beirdo:

it's on the shelf

[18:26:39]

Beirdo:

OK, I need food.

[18:26:45]

Beirdo:

friggin starving here

[18:26:46]

xris:

Beirdo: they made a dramatic shift in quality about 1.5 years ago

[18:26:53]

Beirdo:

good to hear

[18:27:02]

Beirdo:

shift UPWARDS I assume?

[18:27:04]

xanderp:

funny... i've got 2 old junker drives on my desk drawer... a 20gig WD, and a 120G maxtor.... the maxtor has sharpie on the label saying 'corrupts data'

[18:27:04]

Beirdo:

hehe

[18:27:05]

xris:

about the same time that maxtor started getting really bad.

[18:27:09]

sona:

I've never had any problems with any maxotr hdd, amazingly..

[18:27:26]

Beirdo:

heh

[18:27:29]

Beirdo:

BRB

[18:27:30]

Juski:

nor have I

[18:28:02]

xanderp:

i've lost data on more than one maxtor

[18:28:27]

drdaz_:

I've never had an issue with WD drives myself.. got 4 and none have failed

[18:28:52]

xris:

drdaz_: helps having large numbers (meaning in the thousands) of drives to compare to...

[18:29:00]

drdaz_:

lol true

[18:29:12]

drdaz_:

but..

[18:29:40]

drdaz_:

I am assuming, perhaps wrongly, that folks here aren't talking of experience with quantities that large

[18:29:41]

xris:

from a personal side of things, you're unlikely to get failures from any manufacturer... since you're such a tiny sample.

[18:29:57]

sona:

yes that's probably why people think maxotr suck, cause sooo many use them

[18:30:31]

xris:

sona: actually, it's all about relative numbers... maxtors suck in comparison to enterprise-level solutions, which area lead by seagate and wd.

[18:30:33]

kormoc:

Beirdo, I've fun WD for a long time, and it's been awesome quality for myself all along, hence why every single drive I own is a WD

[18:31:11]

xris:

kormoc: I still have a 20G maxtor sitting around in case one of my servers dies and I need a temporary replacement drive

[18:31:50]

kormoc:

my boot drive on my one box is a 1.2 gig WD

[18:32:14]

bmk789 (bmk789!n=bmk789@12-222-67-0.client.insightBB.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:33:34]

Juski:

right it's hometime

[18:33:36]

sona:

decent cooling and I think you can feel quite safe with a maxtor

[18:33:41]

Juski:

laters

[18:33:43]

Juski (Juski!n=juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust7.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has quit ("leaving")

[18:35:19]

xris:

sona: probably. but personally, I'd rather trust our proddev guys and our customers.. no maxtor there.

[18:36:01]

Goshen (Goshen!n=Goshen@71-37-97-142.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:36:03]

xris:

damn, speaking of good drives... http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.j . . . de=101220-12

[18:36:23]

xris:

that's way less than wholesale.

[18:36:47]

sona:

looks good

[18:36:59]

sona:

nice prices over there wherever

[18:37:26]

xris:

I just bought 2 of those for my new system a couple of weeks ago.. $8 or so more...

[18:37:44]

xris:

they seem to have realtime pricing adjustments, since their prices do change daily

[18:38:03]

xanderp (xanderp!n=pphillip@12-222-95-177.client.insightBB.com) has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12")

[18:38:06]

jasta:

yawn

[18:38:27]

xris:

4 of those and I could have myself a nice raid10 for my file/webserver

[18:38:57]

mchou:

xris: who made a dramatic shift in quality 1.5 yrs ago?

[18:39:01]

xris:

mchou: WD

[18:39:25]

xris:

well, maxtor, too, but in the other direction.

[18:39:48]

mchou:

xris: bah. My WD drives are the only ones that have SMART warnings

[18:40:17]

Beirdo:

mchou: at least they are warning you

[18:40:23]

mchou:

one with relocated sectors, another with AMNF

[18:40:33]

xanderp (xanderp!n=pphillip@12-222-95-177.client.insightBB.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:41:54]

xanderp:

anyone know of a good howto on getting my vbi working for my pvr250/350's ? I really want to get captions working

[18:42:25]

mchou:

and my maxtor just started having click of death......

[18:42:45]

Beirdo:

my old Caviar 850 was such an excellent drive though :)

[18:43:26]

lcase (lcase!n=l-case@p54B33DAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:43:43]

mchou:

sagates are pretty bad in my case too.

[18:43:50]

mchou:

seagates*

[18:43:54]

xanderp:

My first hard drive was 20 meg... seems like such a long time ago... I didn't ever fill that drive. It was on an Amiga2000HD.

[18:44:12]

Beirdo:

heh

[18:44:13]

xris:

mchou: I'd call that bad luck.

[18:44:23]

Beirdo:

xris: or pebcak

[18:44:25]

mchou:

xris: that's no bad luck

[18:44:44]

mchou:

Beirdo: there is no pebcak here :)

[18:45:15]

mchou:

everyones seagate smart reports virtually the same things in smart

[18:45:42]

mchou:

astronomical seek failures

[18:46:00]

mchou:

most ppl just dont notice

[18:47:08]

mchou:

7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 085 060 030 Pre-fail Always – 336619183

[18:47:23]

mchou:

1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 061 057 006 Pre-fail Always – 174228270

[18:47:35]

Beirdo:

funny, I never got that with mine

[18:47:39]

mchou:

now there is just no excuse for that crap

[18:47:58]

lcase (lcase!n=l-case@p54B33DAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit ()

[18:48:00]

lcase (lcase!n=l-case@p54B33DAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:48:42]

mchou:

Beirdo: I've checked with other ppl here and elsewhere who installed new seagates, they all pretty much say the same crap.

[18:49:19]

** Beirdo shrugs **

[18:50:04]

mchou:

bet seagate has some firmware issues

[18:50:46]

xanderp (xanderp!n=pphillip@12-222-95-177.client.insightBB.com) has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12")

[18:50:58]

mchou:

either that or their voice activated coils are hosed

[18:51:40]

Beirdo:

or smartctl is reading the numbers wrong

[18:52:10]

mchou:

Beirdo: maybe, but smartctl says device is in db.

[18:52:42]

** Beirdo shrugs **

[18:52:44]

mchou:

got to be one majort smartctl fuck-up if that's the case......

[18:56:54]

Beirdo:

OK, lunch is over, time to go back to my regularly scheduled work.

[18:56:59]

kal_ (kal_!i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:59:27]

xris:

heh

[18:59:43]

** xris logs for the day when he's done processing weblogs **

[18:59:51]

Beirdo:

heh

[18:59:59]

Beirdo:

try validating DNS zones :)

[19:02:23]

atom_jack (atom_jack!n=atomjack@c-67-188-41-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:03:40]

atom_jack:

i'm having an ivtv/pvr-350 problem – i just had to do a reinstall so everything was working properly before, but now when i capture video (from /dev/video0) i get video but no sound – I know it's not a mythtv problem as I am doing a straight cat, and I checked the mpg and it says there's an audio stream, but I'm not hearing any sound. Is it possible it's being muted for some reason?

[19:03:42]

kormoc:

xris, you've really been dealing with logs for too long, that line just proves it

[19:04:19]

kormoc:

atom_jack, check out ivtvctl

[19:06:30]

atom_jack:

hmmm, ivtvctl -d /dev/video0 -Y reports mute = 0

[19:06:34]

atom_jack:

and volume = 58880

[19:06:57]

kormoc:

well then, does anything play audio?

[19:07:00]

atom_jack:

yeah

[19:07:14]

atom_jack:

that's not the issue, i'm checking it in media player classic on my XP box which does sound just fine

[19:07:44]

xris:

kormoc: you're completely correct

[19:07:55]

atom_jack:

and looking at the mpg's properties in mpc, it shows there's an audio stream and yet i don't hear any sound

[19:08:13]

kormoc:

atom_jack, maybe it's a bad version of ivtv

[19:08:18]

kormoc:

or of the firmware

[19:08:18]

atom_jack:

ah

[19:08:22]

Filip (Filip!n=filip@sterrenbos.demon.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:08:26]

atom_jack:

hmm i used yum, and jarod's guide

[19:08:37]

atom_jack:

i guess i should try compiling it in myself?

[19:08:49]

kormoc:

couldn't hurt

[19:08:53]

atom_jack:

ok. ugh. thanks

[19:11:05]

woodwizzle (woodwizzle!n=corey@user-0cej715.cable.mindspring.com) has quit ("Leaving")

[19:12:29]

sphing (sphing!n=sphing@n128-227-79-175.xlate.ufl.edu) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:13:13]

sphing:

OT: how can I force make to always recompile

[19:13:26]

otwin (otwin!n=Use@217.31.78.25) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:15:11]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[19:15:27]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:18:33]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:21:21]

phatmonkey_ (phatmonkey_!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:21:25]

phatmonkey (phatmonkey!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))

[19:22:22]

rsquared:

any of you guys know about optics?

[19:22:29]

rsquared:

and IR illumination?

[19:24:06]

Krazyleg1 (Krazyleg1!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:24:07]

Krazylegz (Krazylegz!n=Krazyleg@c-68-82-206-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[19:24:10]

Krazyleg1 is now known as Krazylegz

[19:26:34]

xris:

rsquared: huh?

[19:26:52]

rsquared:

it's totally OT

[19:27:03]

rsquared:

i'm modding a webcam for nightvision

[19:28:46]

xris:

lol

[19:29:00]

** rsquared has a psycho ex **

[19:29:09]

rsquared:

she freakin tp'd my house this weekend

[19:29:15]

xris:

geesch

[19:29:16]

rsquared:

it's like hello... you're fuckin 29... get a clue

[19:29:37]

rsquared:

so yeah... i'm setting up security

[19:29:50]

atom_jack:

ok i'm not havin much luck gettin ivtv to work – it keeps complaining that it's unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw, yet the file is there in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware

[19:30:09]

atom_jack:

(i had to create /usr/lib/hotplug and /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware as they didn't exist – does this matter?)

[19:31:20]

Hoxzer:

:D not again

[19:31:23]

Jasper:

hello!

[19:31:57]

Hoxzer:

do you guys there could be problem because of failure in the install if the channel change crashes live tv

[19:32:21]

Hoxzer:

I have tryed to setup channels so many times now

[19:32:54]

kormoc:

Hoxzer, depends on the error message that it thross out

[19:33:08]

Hoxzer:

kormoc: wait a sec

[19:33:13]

Hoxzer:

says something about audio

[19:33:13]

Juski (Juski!n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust7.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:33:39]

Hoxzer:

ok, nvm I lett scan to run over night

[19:33:47]

rsquared:

damn birds flying by are triggering my camera to pan and tilt

[19:33:50]

Hoxzer:

for some reason it finds channels but doesn't finnish it

[19:34:02]

Hoxzer:

I tryed to scan like 4 hours straight

[19:34:12]

xris:

atom_jack: mine goes into /lib/modules

[19:34:29]

atom_jack:

hmm

[19:34:39]

xris:

but it's a different firmware (pvr-150)

[19:34:50]

atom_jack:

even though it says for 0.4.2+ it hsould go in the hotplug dir?

[19:35:03]

xris:

atom_jack: I'm still using .3.2, so I don't know

[19:35:10]

atom_jack:

nope that didnt work

[19:35:35]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[19:35:41]

atom_jack:

ahhh

[19:35:51]

atom_jack:

i got it

[19:35:51]

drdaz_ (drdaz_!n=drdaz@212.242.226.63) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[19:36:01]

eskil (eskil!n=eskil@natint3.juniper.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:36:15]

atom_jack:

yes, and i got sound, sweet

[19:36:22]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:37:14]

phatmonkey_ (phatmonkey_!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has quit (No route to host)

[19:37:32]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[19:37:42]

achew22 (achew22!n=asdf@c-67-176-104-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:38:34]

xris:

cool

[19:39:10]

kormoc:

atom_jack, now say what you did to fix it, so it gets logged :P

[19:40:20]

atom_jack:

oh haha, yeah, i put the firmware files in /lib/firmware

[19:41:46]

Juski:

Hoxzer: there are some issues with DVB in 0.19 which should be ironed out eventually

[19:41:48]

phatmonkey (phatmonkey!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:42:16]

Hoxzer:

Juski: yeah, It worked before I reinstalled (I messed up my filesystem :D)

[19:42:29]

atom_jack:

hoxzer:i had to set up my channels manually (editing the mysql tables)

[19:42:49]

atom_jack:

is that what you are talking about? for dvb on the hd-3000?

[19:43:00]

Mobleman (Mobleman!i=Mobleman@82.150.72.15) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:43:02]

Hoxzer:

nope

[19:43:15]

atom_jack:

oh ok nm then heh

[19:43:19]

Hoxzer:

atom_jack: I have tryed to import working channels.conf too

[19:43:19]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[19:43:23]

Juski:

Hoxzer has DVB-C if I remember right

[19:43:24]

Hoxzer:

but does same error

[19:43:31]

Hoxzer:

Juski: yeah

[19:43:38]

Hoxzer:

but It worked fine before reinstall

[19:43:48]

Jasper:

hmm

[19:43:48]

Hoxzer:

http://pastebin.com/587489 btw here is error

[19:44:14]

SlicerDicer- (SlicerDicer-!n=Slicer@70.89.135.154) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[19:44:40]

sandos:

is anyone here using myth on directfb

[19:44:49]

Juski:

/ignore lilo

[19:45:03]

sandos:

=)

[19:45:14]

Juski:

trying to work here & these popups keep appearing

[19:45:35]

SlicerDicer- (SlicerDicer-!n=Slicer@70.89.135.154) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:45:59]

xris:

yeah, kind of annoying, all weekend long.

[19:46:32]

Beirdo:

what frigging exploit?

[19:46:48]

Juski:

I can make the popups appear on tabs, but that's just as annoying

[19:47:27]

Beirdo:

oh, keylogger crap?

[19:47:28]

Beirdo:

hehe

[19:47:37]

atom_jack:

how can i get my system to load the dvb modules before the ivtv modules? i have "alias char-major-81–0 cx88-dvb" listed before "alias char-major-81–0 ivtv" in /etc/modprobe.conf, yet it's still loading ivtv before dvb – modprobe cx88-dvb gives an error about differing versions of tveeprom, so i have to unload that and ivtv before i can load dvb (but then ivtv loads just fine)

[19:47:57]

Beirdo:

if you depend on a Netgear and turn that crap on, you deserve it

[19:50:11]

kal_:

wdoes anyone know what is the best dvb-t card for mythtv ?

[19:50:31]

kal_:

mine is slown, i have to wait about 5secondes when i zap channel

[19:51:30]

Juski:

kal_: I get that, but then I don't use livetv. it'd piss me off if I did though

[19:51:38]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:51:59]

drdaz_ (drdaz_!n=drdaz@212.242.226.63) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:53:51]

atom_jack:

oh i am an idiot, there was another ivtv line above the dvb one that i missed

[19:54:34]

kal_:

Juski: oki :/

[19:55:07]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[19:55:15]

drdaz_ (drdaz_!n=drdaz@212.242.226.63) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[19:56:11]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:57:56]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[19:58:50]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[19:59:12]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:59:16]

framp (framp!n=framp@p54A0E257.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:59:16]

Chacabaou (Chacabaou!n=daniel@dialin.212.114.167.211.NEFkom.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:00:33]

_rjune is now known as rjune

[20:01:16]

Jasper (Jasper!n=jverberk@ipd50a583c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:01:54]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-154-232-2.adsl.xtra.co.nz) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:03:48]

phatmonkey_ (phatmonkey_!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:06:35]

threat (threat!n=threat@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[20:11:41]

rjune is now known as Indiana_June

[20:11:42]

phatmonkey (phatmonkey!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))

[20:13:22]

lcase (lcase!n=l-case@p54B33DAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit ()

[20:17:19]

drdaz (drdaz!n=drdaz@212.242.226.63) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:21:37]

meushi (meushi!n=meushi@ip-83-99-48-139.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:22:49]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[20:23:13]

phatmonkey_ is now known as phatmonkey

[20:23:33]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:28:22]

Juski:

for hell's sake, Gracenote... Massive Attack != Aqua

[20:28:39]

roeulogy (roeulogy!n=kvirc@d221-68-84.commercial.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:35:24]

sphenxes (sphenxes!n=sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:35:34]

sphenxes (sphenxes!n=sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) has quit (Client Quit)

[20:37:07]

robthebob (robthebob!n=rn114@82-71-98-18.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:37:34]

robthebob:

hi guys, having a bit of trouble where the subtitles turn on and off whenever i change the volume

[20:38:03]

robthebob:

this used to happen in 0.18.1 as well, but dvb subtitles weren't supported then so all i got was a "TXT ON" or "TXT OFF" in the top left

[20:38:12]

robthebob:

now the subtitles come up every time – any thoughts?

[20:38:37]

meushi:

Juski: it didn't recognize your Aqua album?

[20:38:40]

** meushi runs and hides **

[20:39:04]

Gumby:

can anyone here offer a little ivtv help? Or should I wait for an answer in #ivtv-dev ?

[20:39:28]

atom_jack:

what's the problem gumby

[20:39:37]

Beirdo:

Pokey's missing?

[20:39:51]

framp (framp!n=framp@p54A0E257.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit ("<Leaving>niom niom</Leaving>")

[20:40:12]

Gumby:

hehe

[20:40:40]

Juski:

!slap meushi

[20:40:49]

Gumby:

well, I first installed the ivtv drivers and upon first load of the modules everything was well. cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg worked great

[20:40:51]

Beirdo:

!trout Juski

[20:40:51]

** MythLogBot slaps Juski with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

[20:40:55]

meushi:

Juski: sorry, couldn't resist

[20:41:30]

Gumby:

upon reboot, dmesg showed that the firmware wasnt loaded for some reason. so I then tried modprobe ivtv and the firmware was loaded.

[20:41:51]

Gumby:

but now when I cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg a 0byte file is created :(

[20:42:54]

Juski:

lol

[20:42:54]

Gumby:

the current dmesg output after modprobe ivtv is @ http://ultimate.kicks-ass.net/errors/ivtv.txt

[20:42:54]

Gumby:

I just cant figure this one out

[20:42:54]

atom_jack:

did you try video1 instead of video0?

[20:42:56]

Juski:

maybe ivtv is trying to load before hotplug is up...

[20:43:17]

Gumby:

hrm, maybe.

[20:43:26]

Gumby:

atom_jack: no, I dont have a video1 device

[20:43:54]

atom_jack:

what about if after you boot up you rmmod ivtv and modprobe it again? what's dmesg look like then, same errors?

[20:44:19]

Gumby:

what I posted is what dmesg looks like after removing ivtv and re-modprobing it

[20:44:28]

atom_jack:

ah

[20:44:31]

atom_jack:

http://ivtvdriver.org/trac/ticket/80

[20:44:48]

Gumby:

all look good accept those i2c lines (at least I think so but I am no expert by far)

[20:45:08]

atom_jack:

look at that url, that person was getting errors like that too

[20:47:17]

Gumby:

yes, I am not missing tveeprom or msp3400 and I do not have the info for msp3400 in my modprobe.conf either

[20:47:24]

atom_jack:

hrm

[20:50:14]

Gumby:

odd thing is, I have had this happen in two different distros

[20:50:37]

Gumby:

so maybe its a hardware issue

[20:51:08]

Gumby:

but it seems odd to me that it worked after the initial install of the ivtv drivers and then after a reboot it was broken

[20:51:57]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[20:52:46]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:53:40]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has quit (Connection reset by peer)

[20:54:26]

Gumby:

hrm, ok. something interesting here. I removed ivtv from my modules.preload (not sure why it was there) and once the system was up I did modprobe ivtv. It looks like it went in clean

[20:54:34]

jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cm64-247.liwest.at) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:55:31]

sdog (sdog!n=sdog@213-193-182-135.adsl.easynet.be) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:57:08]

Gumby:

yep, cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg works

[20:58:11]

sdog:

I can see my recordings in Previously Recorded, but when I want to watch recordings not all of them are listed there anymore (series are listed, movies not) however they are on disk , where should I continue to look ?

[21:05:11]

sdog:

ok found :)

[21:06:27]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[21:06:27]

coffee88 (coffee88!n=mike@dsl-217-155-108-166.zen.co.uk) has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12")

[21:07:28]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:07:43]

xris (xris!n=xris@c-24-19-148-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[21:07:44]

xris (xris!n=xris@c-24-19-148-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:07:44]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris

[21:07:57]

atom_jack:

hmm shouldn't there be a place to set where the live tv buffer files should be located on the same screen as where you set recordings to be located, in mythtvsetup?

[21:08:12]

xris:

atom_jack: no, they all live in the same plaec

[21:08:20]

atom_jack:

ohhh

[21:08:23]

atom_jack:

that changed i guess huh

[21:08:30]

sdog (sdog!n=sdog@213-193-182-135.adsl.easynet.be) has left #mythtv-users ()

[21:09:20]

roeulogy:

Hey guys, I'm sure this has been asked a thousand times, but anybody know why I would be getting a missing dependancy of mythtv-frontend-api?

[21:09:26]

xris:

atom_jack: yeah, life tv is no longer a buffer

[21:09:43]

atom_jack:

ahh

[21:09:45]

xris:

roeulogy: um, what's missing?

[21:10:02]

roeulogy:

one sec and I'll get the exact name

[21:10:28]

xris:

atom_jack: livetv is now a recording just like any other. it goes into the LiveTV recgroup, and has a super low auto-expire priority so the recordings expire before anything else.

[21:10:33]

bio_:

http://pastebin.com/587654 ... am i missing something or why isnt it registered as a /dev/videoX device?

[21:11:03]

atom_jack:

i see, cool

[21:11:06]

Raven301 (Raven301!n=raven_30@London-HSE-ppp3547975.sympatico.ca) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:11:07]

roeulogy:

doing an install via yast in suse 10, getting a "missing mythtv-frontend-api" when trying to install many of the packages.

[21:11:46]

roeulogy:

mythbrowser 0.19 is an example of one of the packages that won't install because of it

[21:12:12]

xris:

roeulogy: no clue.. maybe just an install priority issue? is there a mythtv-frontend-api package somewhere?

[21:13:15]

roeulogy:

not that I have found, I've been looking high and low for it. have been following a rather nice guide, but it was a guide designed to install and configure 0.18

[21:14:30]

xris:

roeulogy: could be the packages are just messed up

[21:15:02]

meushi:

daft one, is there a way to select which audio channel to record for analog transmissions with two languages?

[21:15:06]

squeegy (squeegy!n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")

[21:15:30]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[21:16:07]

roeulogy:

any ideas as to what I may end up doing if I just ignore the fact that it can't find that package? I've seen noted on one forum that it goes fine, and on another that I need to get a v-frontend package, which seems to be about as sparse as the frontend-api package

[21:16:13]

dagfinnr (dagfinnr!n=dagfinnr@213.167.126.160) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:17:35]

dagfinnr:

hello, im having some troubles installing mythweb (0.19), had 0.18 installed, and updated via yum (package from atrpms), when trying to access the website, i get database setup error, but if i try to log on with the info in the .htaccess file, it logs in sucessfully (mysql -p). Anyone have any hints?

[21:20:26]

xris:

dagfinnr: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . thweb/README

[21:23:11]

dagfinnr:

xris, ive added the allow override for var/www/html/mythweb, and checked that the env and rewrite modules is beeing loaded in apache.. what else do i need to check?

[21:23:59]

bmk789 (bmk789!n=bmk789@12-222-67-0.client.insightBB.com) has quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/")

[21:23:59]

xris:

dagfinnr: restart apache?

[21:23:59]

dagfinnr:

tried that, several times ;)

[21:24:10]

xris:

What db error are you getting?

[21:24:17]

dagfinnr:

The database environment variables are not correctly set in the

[21:24:17]

dagfinnr:

included .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included

[21:24:17]

dagfinnr:

in the file and set up the db_* environment variables correctly.

[21:24:32]

dagfinnr:

and plus the hint of reading readme / allow override things

[21:24:52]

xris:

if you're getting that, then it's not pulling the vars from the .htaccess filer

[21:25:51]

sandos:

is it not pretty bisarre that I need to use directfb to be able vsync with mplayer?

[21:25:51]

sandos:

youd think that functionality should be in most drivers...

[21:25:53]

dagfinnr:

xris.. strange..how is that possible?

[21:26:11]

sphenxes (sphenxes!n=sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:26:18]

xris:

dagfinnr: are you sure mod_env is loaded (not that other mod_env_somethingelse)?

[21:27:06]

dagfinnr:

yea, im pretty sure; LoadModule env_module modules/mod_env.so

[21:27:23]

sphing (sphing!n=sphing@n128-227-79-175.xlate.ufl.edu) has quit ("Leaving")

[21:27:40]

dagfinnr:

thats the one, right?

[21:27:42]

xris:

yeah

[21:27:51]

xris:

only other thing I can think of is the allowoverride stuff

[21:28:01]

xris:

but if you put in the specific directory, that should be fine

[21:28:47]

dagfinnr:

[21:28:47]

dagfinnr:

Options FollowSymLinks

[21:28:47]

dagfinnr:

AllowOverride All

[21:28:47]

dagfinnr:

</Directory>

[21:28:54]

dagfinnr:

yeah, i put this in the httpd.conf

[21:29:06]

xris:

hmm... I've seen SOME problems with some installs needing RewriteBase set in the .htaccess file to /

[21:29:18]

dagfinnr:

the readme had the dir without the " but i added it

[21:29:21]

dagfinnr:

hm

[21:29:28]

xris:

um, you don't want quotes

[21:29:29]

dagfinnr:

where do i set that in the .htaccess file?

[21:29:55]

dagfinnr:

all my other dirs have quotes xris, and theyre auto generated i think, atleast i havent written them :P

[21:30:30]

xris:

ahh, I guess quotes are fine... should update the readme, then

[21:30:45]

xris:

.htaccess has a RewriteBase line in it already, commented out.

[21:30:48]

otwin:

meushi: with ´ivtvctl -z´ you can select the audio track on pvr-x50 cards – don´t know of a way to do this from within mythtv though

[21:30:49]

xris:

just change the valyue

[21:31:51]

pleemans (pleemans!n=peter@d54C24BC0.access.telenet.be) has quit ("Leaving")

[21:31:52]

dagfinnr:

done..same shit :P

[21:32:09]

dagfinnr:

RewriteBase /var/www/html/mythweb

[21:32:14]

xris:

no

[21:32:15]

xris:

just /

[21:32:26]

xris:

or /mythweb

[21:32:36]

dagfinnr:

ah

[21:33:51]

dagfinnr:

:/

[21:34:00]

dagfinnr:

no luck there either

[21:34:15]

dagfinnr:

strange ..

[21:34:32]

xris:

I've run out of ideas

[21:35:46]

dagfinnr:

well, it would be strange if this would work without many many hours trying different thing..nothing mythtv things has done so far :/ hehe

[21:36:15]

xris:

I've had very little trouble with mythtv. worst is getting lirc transmitter working.

[21:36:32]

xris:

mythweb always works for me, but then again, I'm the one who sets the standards.

[21:37:25]

dagfinnr:

hehe, lirc actually worked nicely here the first time but im using a standard hauppage remote control

[21:37:53]

dagfinnr:

is there any way i can degrade mythweb with yum ?

[21:38:13]

dagfinnr:

(if it aint broke, dont fix it) <- i never learn! lol

[21:38:59]

xris:

dagfinnr: transmitter, not receiver

[21:39:10]

xris:

old mythweb won't work with new mythtv

[21:39:12]

dagfinnr:

aha

[21:39:17]

dagfinnr:

darnit..

[21:39:31]

xris:

it's basically a frontend... has to keep up with changes in the backend.

[21:39:42]

dagfinnr:

oh..i see

[21:40:18]

xris:

do me a favor.. top of init.php, put: debug($_SERVER);

[21:40:25]

Baylink (Baylink!n=jra@rrcs-24-129-168-240.se.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:40:36]

meushi:

otwin: thanks! I'll look into that, worst case I'll add cases to my tuning script :)

[21:41:35]

dagfinnr:

xris, now i just get a blank screen trying to access mythweb.php

[21:41:45]

dagfinnr:

where is the debug info saved?

[21:42:00]

xris:

sorry, debug is defined in utils.php... hang on.

[21:42:13]

xris:

try: echo '<pre>'; print_r($_SERVER); exit;

[21:42:13]

dagfinnr:

k

[21:42:25]

dagfinnr:

k

[21:43:16]

xris:

?

[21:44:05]

otwin:

meushi: i select the 2nd audio channel on startup – that´s ok for me, most of the time...

[21:44:26]

dagfinnr:

omg

[21:44:30]

dagfinnr:

im stupid

[21:44:46]

meushi:

otwin: well, I've got a weird lineup on cable... so for most channels I want 1st lang, but for some 2nd lang :)

[21:45:19]

robthebob:

dagfinnr, you still having trouble with mythweb?

[21:45:33]

xris:

dagfinnr: what was it?

[21:45:41]

dagfinnr:

in the old mythweb i was using a symlink 'tv', to ease the url, the same i used now, that seemed to be the error. Thanks for trying to help me xris.

[21:45:49]

otwin:

ooh, i see you are in luxembourg! salut!

[21:46:00]

xris:

lol

[21:46:09]

robthebob:

is it working ok now then?

[21:46:27]

dagfinnr:

when i removed the symlink its works

[21:46:48]

dagfinnr:

but the links at the main, what should they show? the actual contents of the video dirs etc?

[21:47:09]

robthebob:

yeah

[21:47:38]

dagfinnr:

looks like its replacing mythweb with mythweb.php

[21:47:43]

achew22:

would someone be willing to help me with a nuvexport issue

[21:47:54]

dagfinnr:

The requested URL /mythweb.php/tv/list was not found on this server.

[21:48:03]

dagfinnr:

at the listings ie

[21:48:11]

dagfinnr:

actual url: http://mythbox.ath.cx:1863/mythweb/tv/list

[21:48:35]

meushi:

otwin: it's a pain at times for the cable... some french, a lot of german, not enough english and one dutch channel

[21:48:52]

xris:

dagfinnr: that's mod_rewrite messing up

[21:49:01]

Filip (Filip!n=filip@sterrenbos.demon.nl) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[21:49:14]

dagfinnr:

in .htaccess?

[21:49:24]

sm00f (sm00f!n=sm00f@12-222-181-10.client.insightBB.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:49:46]

xris:

mythweb detects its real location... if you're accessing it via a symlink, it's freaking out

[21:49:52]

dagfinnr:

yeah

[21:49:52]

xris:

just rename the directory instead of using a symlink

[21:49:53]

astate (astate!n=astateof@12.10.108.109) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:50:02]

otwin:

meushi: yeah, my problem is with ARTE – i want french docs/movies in french and germans in german...

[21:50:21]

dagfinnr:

xris, i removed the rewrite stuff in .htaccess, seems like its working now

[21:50:25]

astate:

anyone have a clue why I'm getting a "unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION" when I try to mythfilldatabase?

[21:50:31]

xris:

dagfinnr: um, it shouldn't work at all without mod_rewrite

[21:50:39]

kormoc:

astate, your mythfilldb is a different version then your backend

[21:51:04]

xris:

Beirdo: feature request for the bot... string matches and autoresponses.

[21:51:07]

meushi:

otwin: my german is not good enough for Arte in german... and I only get arte part time... sucks royally

[21:51:15]

astate:

i'm using gentoo on a clean install...i wonder how that happened

[21:51:19]

Beirdo:

we can easily do that

[21:51:21]

achew22:

will someone look at this pastebin? http://pastebin.com/587744

[21:51:43]

Beirdo:

I just don't want it to get too obnoxious :)

[21:51:44]

dagfinnr:

xris, not mod rewrite, # RewriteBase /

[21:52:13]

dagfinnr:

thanks xris :)

[21:52:16]

kormoc:

Beirdo, add a if not in the database, say RTFM :P

[21:52:16]

dagfinnr:

nighty

[21:52:24]

Beirdo:

RTFM

[21:52:37]

otwin:

meushi: well, at least we are now 3 mythtv users in .lu ;-)

[21:52:46]

dagfinnr (dagfinnr!n=dagfinnr@213.167.126.160) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[21:52:47]

Beirdo:

does that make you .lusers?

[21:52:53]

astate:

ah, i think i just figured it out....I have my master set as 127.0.0.1, and it needs to be the reachable address

[21:53:06]

meushi:

otwin: which part are you in? And shit... I thought I was the only one :p

[21:53:07]

otwin:

heh

[21:53:23]

meushi:

Beirdo: and proud of it :p

[21:53:30]

eskil (eskil!n=eskil@natint3.juniper.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

[21:54:03]

otwin:

meushi: no, i met another one in here a few weeks ago – i´m in walferdange

[21:54:16]

Hoxzer (Hoxzer!n=niko@a80-186-169-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[21:54:39]

meushi:

otwin: not too far away... hmm... forget about that, it's Luxembourg ;)

[21:54:52]

otwin:

:-)

[21:55:21]

meushi:

otwin: I'm in Pfaffenthal (spelling?)

[21:55:39]

Beirdo:

hassenpfeffer?

[21:56:42]

otwin:

i think the spelling is ok – not sure about the ´h´...

[21:56:55]

Beirdo:

hehehe

[21:56:59]

Beirdo:

assenpfeffer?

[21:57:03]

Beirdo:

that sounds BAD

[21:57:04]

meushi:

sad actually... been living here for >3 years and I still can't spell it :p

[21:57:08]

IRC (IRC!n=chatzill@c-71-226-16-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:57:17]

otwin:

:-)

[21:57:18]

Beirdo:

someone needs a real nick

[21:57:30]

Beirdo:

!trout IRC

[21:57:30]

** MythLogBot slaps IRC with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

[21:57:32]

kormoc:

I'm surprised it's not banned/taken

[21:57:34]

meushi:

oh in fact I can :D

[21:57:42]

IRC:

:lol:

[21:57:46]

IRC:

im that on everything

[21:58:26]

kormoc:

Ivan Richard Carlson?

[21:58:27]

Beirdo:

it IS already taken by someone else

[21:58:40]

IRC:

yeah probably

[21:58:51]

IRC:

hey can anyone help me with my box

[21:59:04]

Beirdo:

probably, but we'd rather make fun of your nick

[21:59:14]

IRC:

i got it set up last night and i screwed up the theme to a widescreen one

[21:59:23]

** kormoc does the nelson point and HAHA **

[21:59:27]

IRC:

i cant get to the appearance menu to get it back

[21:59:50]

kormoc:

in anycase case, you can change that in the DB I do beleive

[21:59:52]

Beirdo:

you can do some SQL fun and fix it

[22:00:24]

IRC:

can you help

[22:00:40]

Beirdo:

not right now, I have to leave to get to the chiropractor

[22:00:49]

Beirdo:

I'm sure someone can help

[22:00:58]

IRC:

o thanks

[22:01:16]

Beirdo:

at worst, drop the database and start again, it's not like you'll have hundreds of recordings if you just setup yesterday

[22:01:36]

IRC:

do i just reinstall?

[22:01:54]

johnp_ (johnp_!n=jmp@82-69-87-196.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has left #mythtv-users ()

[22:01:59]

** Beirdo hands kormoc a trout **

[22:02:05]

Beirdo:

I'll be back in a while

[22:02:09]

kormoc:

hehe

[22:02:14]

** kormoc salutes with the trout! **

[22:02:23]

kormoc:

enjoy your bone reassignment!

[22:02:35]

Beirdo:

thanks :)

[22:02:39]

kormoc:

IRC, log into your mysql table, you know how to do that?

[22:02:57]

IRC:

no its not hooked up to my network yet

[22:03:08]

kormoc:

you're gonna have to via the console then

[22:03:15]

kormoc:

open up a console, type in

[22:03:18]

Mobleman (Mobleman!i=Mobleman@82.150.72.15) has quit ()

[22:03:20]

meushi:

otwin: do you have a grabber for the local channels, by any chance?

[22:03:27]

kormoc:

mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg

[22:03:37]

kormoc:

IRC, you should then get a "mysql>" prompt

[22:04:18]

IRC:

kormoc: ok then what do i do

[22:04:29]

kormoc:

type this: UPDATE settings SET data = 'G.A.N.T.' WHERE value = 'Theme';

[22:04:33]

kormoc:

then press enter

[22:04:47]

kormoc:

you should see something like "Query OK, 1 row affected"

[22:05:14]

otwin:

meushi: i´m using the french, german, belgian and uk grabber... tv_cat then merges the files into one .xml file

[22:05:35]

IRC:

kormoc: ok do i need to add the semicolon at the end?

[22:05:45]

kormoc:

IRC, yes

[22:05:45]

meushi:

otwin: same, I was talking about TTV and stuff :)

[22:06:07]

IRC:

kormoc: ok im gonna try it right now

[22:06:20]

IRC:

kormoc: o i have knoppmyth will that make a difference

[22:06:25]

kormoc:

shouldn't

[22:06:38]

xris:

kormoc: the lxm themes: http://jmeyer.us/

[22:06:42]

xris:

finally found them again

[22:07:08]

otwin:

meushi: no – someone has to write one and it won´t be me ;-) ttv and rtl is not worth the pain

[22:07:24]

otwin:

although it´s about time i learn perl...

[22:07:33]

meushi:

otwin: and chambre en direct!

[22:07:38]

otwin:

lol

[22:07:46]

meushi:

can't beat that to fall asleep

[22:08:03]

meushi:

"I'm not tired" "watch this!" 5secs pass "ZzzZzz"

[22:08:06]

kormoc:

xris, nice, I wonder if they'll get offically added

[22:08:22]

lars-ut is now known as lars-ut-away

[22:08:35]

meushi:

otwin: and the slideshow known as Nordlich TV

[22:08:46]

Beyondhelp (Beyondhelp!n=Beyondhe@203-118-185-49.bliink.ihug.co.nz) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:08:55]

xris:

kormoc: probably depends on licensing

[22:09:16]

** xris kicks firefox for crashing again **

[22:09:18]

IRC (IRC!n=chatzill@c-71-226-16-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]")

[22:09:19]

otwin:

meushi: that´s my favourite – you can´t do it cheaper

[22:09:31]

meushi:

otwin: actually there was...

[22:10:39]

otwin:

which one?

[22:11:10]

xris:

requires a hacked-up setup.xml file. weird

[22:11:16]

meushi:

otwin: no longer exists, but there was a channel that had *one* picture and radio

[22:13:25]

sphenxes (sphenxes!n=sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) has quit ("Leaving")

[22:14:36]

xris:

really need to get the contributed themes put into the main package...

[22:14:37]

daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@216-107-194-166.gdt.cust.seg.NET) has quit (Client Quit)

[22:15:58]

Chutt:

jams has a patch for setup.xml + the other themes

[22:16:07]

Chutt:

i may make a second myththemes package

[22:16:22]

Chutt:

don't want the individual downloads getting too big

[22:16:57]

kormoc:

Chutt, I assume you considered one theme per package?

[22:17:19]

Niekie (Niekie!n=Niekie@niekie/unaffiliated) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:17:42]

xris:

Chutt: the setup.xml thing is definitely weird... cool that someone's working on it.

[22:17:56]

xris:

what would be cool is to integrate a themes downloader into mythtv itself.

[22:18:14]

Niekie:

Anyone know what "Transcoding aborted, NuppelVideoPlayer is not in raw audio mode." means?

[22:18:25]

xris:

download/cache the screenshot, and then let people grab the ones they want (store in ~/.mythtv/themes/ or something like that)

[22:21:19]

atom_jack (atom_jack!n=atomjack@c-67-188-41-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[22:27:13]

meushi:

gnite

[22:27:15]

meushi (meushi!n=meushi@ip-83-99-48-139.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu) has quit ("Client exiting")

[22:27:41]

dja_ (dja_!n=alden@cpe-24-95-62-160.columbus.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:28:05]

Chutt:

kormoc, i don't want lots of little packages to make

[22:28:23]

Chutt:

xris, some guy was working on a downloader at some poin

[22:28:26]

Chutt:

point

[22:28:34]

Chutt:

never finished it, as far as i know

[22:28:38]

xris:

Chutt: that's cool/lame

[22:28:49]

xris:

maybe someday. I'm patient.

[22:28:55]

Chutt:

heh

[22:28:58]

dja_:

hi, is it possible to set the amount of time a message is on the screen (using mythtvosd)? I looked in osd.xml, but didn't see anything obvious...

[22:29:42]

dja_:

(I had to look at the topic twice just to make sure I was in the right channel, what with just Chutt and xris chatting :-)

[22:30:02]

Chutt:

xris doesn't go into #mythtv often :p

[22:30:03]

xris:

Chutt: I'd rather have someone work on my multiple-favorites-group feature, anyway

[22:30:10]

Chutt:

heh

[22:30:15]

dja_:

ahh :)

[22:30:16]

kormoc:

Chutt, understandable. Ooh, just wondering, did you get to glance at that link I sent you last night?

[22:30:22]

Chutt:

yeah, briefly

[22:30:24]

Chutt:

i dunno

[22:30:32]

Chutt:

i want something i can run =)

[22:30:38]

kormoc:

hehe, fair nuff :)

[22:30:40]

xris:

dja_: I'm only in #mythtv to ask developer questions... don't want my tab bar to fill up with channels I don't really pay attention to

[22:30:47]

kormoc:

I know a few people using it, and it seems really coole

[22:30:58]

xris:

kormoc: what link?

[22:31:05]

Chutt:

'librarything'

[22:31:13]

kormoc:

libarything.com iirc

[22:31:19]

Chutt:

i had expressed my desire for a web-based book catalog app

[22:31:21]

kormoc:

it's a onlike book collection database

[22:31:26]

kormoc:

*online

[22:31:27]

xris:

interesting

[22:31:37]

Chutt:

since mine ( http://www.mythtv.org/books/ ) isn't fun to keep updated

[22:31:41]

dja_:

xris: I understand...I don't come in here very often, my setup has been working fine for almost 3 years :-)...but I recently installed asterisk and my wife wants the callerid to stay on the screen longer...thought I'd ask for help here...:-)

[22:32:29]

xris:

kormoc: I'd need a barcode scanner for all of my books.

[22:32:29]

xris:

heh

[22:32:39]

Chutt:

barcode scanner's too time consuming

[22:32:51]

Chutt:

you have to open up paperbacks and scan the inside front cover

[22:32:57]

kormoc:

xris, heh, yeah, I'll need to bug my bro

[22:33:00]

xris:

Chutt: which is why I don't have anything.

[22:33:15]

Chutt:

i just type in the isbn's manually, doesn't take much longer than scanning used to

[22:33:43]

eskil (eskil!n=eskil@natint3.juniper.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:33:58]

xris:

Chutt: except for the initial import. we probably have around 500 books

[22:34:12]

Chutt:

i've got 870-some now =)

[22:34:30]

xris:

wo

[22:34:31]

xris:

wow

[22:34:39]

jams:

feel sorry for you guys if and when you ever move

[22:34:41]

Chutt:

http://www.mythtv.org/books2.jpg

[22:34:48]

jams:

thats alot to pack

[22:35:03]

Chutt:

that's from when i painted my library/office last july

[22:35:24]

xris:

that's a lot of books.

[22:35:35]

xris:

ours are all cookbooks/literature...

[22:35:49]

Chutt:

and lego yoda

[22:35:51]

xris:

and huge piles of library books about meta-literature

[22:36:52]

dberry (dberry!n=dberry@pknat1.passkey.com) has quit ("Leaving")

[22:37:59]

Indiana_June:

xris: go looking for an old cuecat

[22:38:07]

xris:

Indiana_June: kormoc has a box of them

[22:38:15]

nawab (nawab!n=nawab@87.115.248.235) has quit ("Lost terminal")

[22:38:19]

Indiana_June:

there's a barcode scanner

[22:38:28]

xris:

just need to get them shipped out here

[22:38:33]

Chutt:

it's a pretty crappy barcode scanner, though

[22:38:34]

Indiana_June:

nice fireplace

[22:38:45]

xris:

Chutt: we have some nice ones here at work... except that they run gentuu

[22:38:49]

xris:

gentoo, even

[22:38:57]

Indiana_June:

but what's the painting right in the foreground

[22:38:59]

nawab (nawab!n=nawab@87.115.248.235) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:39:27]

Chutt:

some wizard

[22:39:30]

astate (astate!n=astateof@12.10.108.109) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[22:39:44]

Chutt:

cross-stitch, present from my mom a while back

[22:40:22]

Indiana_June:

ahh,

[22:40:46]

** Indiana_June sees 3 dune books **

[22:41:08]

Chutt:

just 3?

[22:41:18]

Indiana_June:

that I can pick out yeah

[22:42:02]

Indiana_June:

oh, now I see 5

[22:42:07]

** Indiana_June unscaled the image **

[22:42:11]

Chutt:

ah, those are the crappy trilogy

[22:42:29]

kormoc:

the prequils?

[22:42:49]

Indiana_June:

the ones written by herberts kid?

[22:43:23]

Indiana_June:

I've got dune through god emperor of dune, those are pretty good

[22:43:25]

Niekie (Niekie!n=Niekie@niekie/unaffiliated) has quit ()

[22:44:07]

beavis (beavis!n=beavis@p54A7B2B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[22:44:13]

Indiana_June:

I've never counted my books, got something like 10 shelves full, + the ones in the bathrooms and in the closet

[22:46:08]

Indiana_June:

xris: what do you use for your books currently?

[22:46:37]

xris:

Indiana_June: me? nothing. I don't think I've read more than about 4 books since grad school.

[22:47:01]

Indiana_June:

I misunderstood the "I need a barcode"

[22:47:07]

xris:

I have a ton of cookbooks that I occasionally page through, but my wife does most of the reading.

[22:47:37]

Indiana_June:

heh

[22:47:38]

xris:

I'm curious about keeping track of the books we have... database would be cool, but fairly pointless.

[22:47:48]

Indiana_June:

I used openbiblio for a bit

[22:47:57]

Indiana_June:

the devs got to be pains in the ass though

[22:48:11]

Indiana_June:

closed meetings, that kinda shit

[22:48:12]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[22:48:47]

xris:

better than banning you for submitting patches... (imagemagick apparently did that to some of the livejournal/sixapart devs)

[22:48:54]

xpis (xpis!i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:50:42]

Indiana_June:

idiots

[22:51:09]

Indiana_June:

gah, I sound like a bad billy idol impersonator

[22:51:23]

Indiana_June:

I just need the phony sounding accent, and I'll be set.

[22:55:19]

otwin (otwin!n=Use@217.31.78.25) has left #mythtv-users ()

[22:56:17]

xris:

thankfully the mythtv devs aren't like that... well, we're nice most of the time.

[22:57:54]

Baylink:

http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/bth/20060306/#

[22:58:01]

Baylink:

It Has Begun.

[22:58:28]

lars-ut-away is now known as lars-ut

[22:58:51]

narf (narf!n=narf@adsl-70-240-116-236.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[22:58:53]

xris:

Baylink: interesting

[22:59:07]

xris:

probably windows-drm-only, though

[22:59:16]

Baylink:

Indeed. We'll see how that plays. But if I were an affil, I'd be getting nervous.

[22:59:20]

monolith (monolith!n=monolith@c-24-91-115-239.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:59:27]

monolith:

what provides qmake?

[22:59:28]

Baylink:

Hadn't thought about that; I got hung up on 'free'. Silly me.

[22:59:40]

xris:

monolith: qt-devel

[22:59:41]

Baylink:

I believe it's it's own RPM, monolith.

[22:59:45]

xris:

or whatever your distro calls it

[22:59:49]

monolith:

gotit

[22:59:53]

monolith:

thanks xris

[22:59:55]

monolith:

and Baylink

[23:00:06]

Baylink:

Even though I was worng? Nice of you. :-)

[23:02:45]

LasseL (LasseL!n=lasse@0x503fbec4.ronxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[23:07:44]

monolith:

hahha – it was the thought that counts

[23:11:25]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-154-232-2.adsl.xtra.co.nz) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

[23:12:16]

lightx (lightx!n=lightx@188.79.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net) has quit ("Leaving")

[23:12:47]

hydroksyde (hydroksyde!n=hydroksy@222-154-232-2.adsl.xtra.co.nz) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:12:55]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:15:34]

Baylink (Baylink!n=jra@rrcs-24-129-168-240.se.biz.rr.com) has quit ("User disconnected")

[23:17:31]

deego (deego!n=user@12.166.244.34) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[23:18:31]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[23:24:11]

lars-ut is now known as lars-ut-away

[23:27:55]

blueVoid (blueVoid!n=blue@c-24-2-142-173.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:29:00]

blueVoid:

I tried to install MythTV with the Ubuntu package manager. It says everything is installed but when I run mythtv-setup it fails.. it also won't start the backend

[23:29:11]

xris:

blueVoid: error message?

[23:29:28]

FairWtns (FairWtns!i=FairWtns@c-68-45-13-212.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:29:40]

riddlebox (riddlebox!n=james@24-171-11-166.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:29:53]

FairWtns:

Oh look, I just joined this irc thing.

[23:30:06]

blueVoid:

xris, There are a few when I run the setup, I will list them

[23:30:11]

xris:

FairWtns: "just"?

[23:30:17]

blueVoid:

(it does go into the graphical setup process

[23:30:20]

xris:

blueVoid: pastebin

[23:30:31]

blueVoid:

ok

[23:31:27]

FairWtns:

Hehe. Well, I was back in here yesterday, but today it was a happily accidental click.

[23:31:54]

xris:

heh

[23:31:57]

drdaz:

anybody know how / where to compile mythburn-ui?

[23:32:20]

drdaz:

the readme says 'in the myth build directory', but..

[23:32:52]

drdaz:

it may be that I'm a spaz, but I really dont get what that means :p

[23:33:32]

Gumby:

all my guide data is two hours ahead of what it should be. Anyone have any idea why that might be and where to look to fix it?

[23:33:38]

blueVoid:

xris: http://pastebin.ca/44723

[23:34:03]

Gumby:

ah, I see the problem me thinks.

[23:34:06]

drdaz:

Gumby: check your timezone settings

[23:34:20]

Gumby:

yeahm liiks like its set to UTC instead of my local time

[23:34:22]

xris:

blueVoid: mysql.txt is set up with the wrong db login info

[23:34:53]

xris:

Gumby: there's also an "offset" correction somewhere in setup

[23:35:06]

Gumby:

cool, thx xris

[23:35:53]

blueVoid:

xris: Alright, I figured it was somewhere along those lines.. where can I find mysql.txt, and what is the right db login information? I never remember making a login for it

[23:36:41]

xris:

blueVoid: /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt or /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt or /usr/local/.....

[23:36:50]

blueVoid:

ok

[23:37:00]

xris:

correct info is whatever you set it up as during insall

[23:37:01]

xris:

install

[23:37:22]

blueVoid:

is there a way I can see what the information is, or somehow reset it?

[23:37:42]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:38:19]

xris:

blueVoid: you're doing a fresh install, right?

[23:39:04]

daniel_bergamini (daniel_bergamini!n=daniel_b@70-41-156-188.cust.wildblue.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:39:20]

blueVoid:

xris, yes

[23:39:30]

xris:

then: DROP DATABASE mythconverg;

[23:39:30]

Sneezer (Sneezer!n=MrA@c-67-190-89-209.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:39:35]

xris:

then rerun the db creation routines.

[23:39:57]

scopeuk (scopeuk!n=Scope@cpc3-mfld2-3-1-cust176.nott.cable.ntl.com) has quit ("IceChat - Chillin with the Best of em")

[23:40:04]

o_cee (o_cee!n=o_cee@c83-249-78-51.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[23:40:44]

Sneezer:

hello all

[23:40:45]

blueVoid:

xris, where do I type that stuff? (I'm sorry for my ignorence of mySQL)

[23:41:04]

xris:

blueVoid: mysql -u root

[23:41:13]

Sneezer:

will someone help me with a nuvexport issue?

[23:41:39]

blueVoid:

xris: it says the database does not exist

[23:41:40]

xris:

Sneezer: ask the question

[23:41:43]

Sneezer:

ohh

[23:41:52]

Sneezer:

sorry — one sec leme get the pastebin

[23:42:01]

xris:

blueVoid: then you never created the database... it's all in the setup instructions.

[23:42:14]

blueVoid:

all re-read them

[23:43:48]

phatmonkey (phatmonkey!n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[23:43:55]

Sneezer:

http://pastebin.com/587982

[23:45:11]

Sneezer:

xris do you have any ideas? the file /1072_20060303205800_20060303213000.nuv exists

[23:46:10]

xris:

nuvexport --infile=1072_20060303205800_20060303213000.nuv --mode=divx --path=/var/lib/mythtv/dad/ --ffmpeg --deinterlace --debug

[23:46:50]

xris:

infile takes a filename, not a full path

[23:46:58]

Sneezer:

http://pastebin.com/587989 okay thats what it says now...

[23:47:41]

xris:

and /var/lib/mythtv/ is your recordings directory?

[23:47:48]

Sneezer:

it is indeed

[23:48:10]

xris:

what nuvexport are you running?

[23:48:16]

Sneezer:

http://pastebin.com/587996

[23:48:51]

Sneezer:

nuvexport version: 0.3 0.20060228.svn

[23:48:57]

xris:

.3 doesn't work with .18

[23:49:09]

Sneezer:

good call — go to .2

[23:49:31]

xris:

there was no easy way for me to detect .18, so I just left it at that.

[23:49:49]

Sneezer:

I am running .18 so your right

[23:50:20]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)

[23:50:24]

Sneezer:

ohh wait are you the nuvexport creator? are you Chris Petersen?

[23:50:32]

xris:

Sneezer: the "basename" bit says you're running .18

[23:50:33]

xris:

and yes, I am

[23:50:52]

Sneezer:

very good work — complements and contgrats from me on the great software

[23:51:09]

xris:

:)

[23:51:12]

Sneezer:

I also like the look of your site ;)

[23:51:38]

Sneezer:

anyways — how do I deal with it being .18

[23:51:46]

xris:

really? I think it's kind of lame. no time to fix it.

[23:51:52]

xris:

upgrade to .19 is the best way.

[23:51:56]

Sneezer:

its simple which is what I like

[23:52:00]

Sneezer:

.19 doesn't like me

[23:52:01]

xris:

or downgrade to .2.whatever.svn

[23:52:17]

Sneezer:

I think i'll downgrade to .2.whatever.svn

[23:52:21]

Sneezer:

where do I untar the fiels to

[23:52:41]

xris:

if you're installing by hand, doesn't matter, there's a makefile

[23:53:56]

Sneezer:

okay and do I need to delete anything

[23:54:39]

xris:

shouldn't

[23:54:57]

Sneezer:

whats the switch to unbz2tar a file

[23:55:01]

xris:

I haven't changed the file structure that much... main diff is that .3 no longer has mpeg2cut

[23:55:04]

dougiel (dougiel!n=doug@S0106000c41aebcf9.wp.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:55:10]

kormoc:

tar -xjf file.tar.bz

[23:55:10]

xris:

tar jxf

[23:55:26]

Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:55:27]

blueVoid:

where is mc.sql kept?

[23:55:47]

kormoc:

blueVoid, depends on your distro

[23:56:03]

Jasper:

hej kormoc ...the bootloader is still not finished :(

[23:56:11]

drdaz (drdaz!n=drdaz@212.242.226.63) has quit ("Leaving")

[23:56:11]

blueVoid:

kormoc, typically?

[23:56:14]

kormoc:

hehe, amusing

[23:56:19]

Sneezer:

he he he i like your make file it only has make install

[23:56:24]

kormoc:

blueVoid, /usr/share/mythtv/some/where/in/there

[23:56:32]

blueVoid:

ok, thanks

[23:57:02]

Gumby:

ok, this is strange. my guide is telling me a program is on at a specific time, but when I set up a recording the time is still off by 2 hours

[23:57:10]

Sneezer:

xris is there a way to have it silently do that so that I can add it as a userjob

[23:57:10]

Gumby:

my tz is set properly now also

[23:58:01]

xris:

Sneezer: use starttime/chanid instead of infile

[23:58:09]

robthebob:

how come pressing the Vol+/- buttons on my remote also toggle subtitles?

[23:58:28]

xris:

robthebob: because you set it up that way?

[23:59:31]

Sneezer:

xris so its the same thing-- but i just change it to nuvexport --chanid=1072_20060303213000_20060303220200.nuv --mode=divx --path=/var/lib/mythtv/dad/ --ffmpeg --deinterlace --debug

[23:59:44]

ragawu (ragawu!n=alasdair@81-6-224-95.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

Current users (184):