Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, March 4th, 2006, 00:00 UTC

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SlicerDicer-:

http://funroll-loops.org/

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SlicerDicer-:

guess he was rite :/

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kormoc:

drdaz, it stands for Function unroll loops

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Cardoe:

that's kinda old

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** SlicerDicer- bashs his head into the wall **

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drdaz:

oh!

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dtm:

SlicerDicer-: hell yeah he's rite

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Cardoe:

on newer gccs

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Cardoe:

like gcc-3.4 and up

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Cardoe:

-Os is faster then -O3 -funroll-loops

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dtm:

hehe

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Cardoe:

because it'll squeeze code into logical block transfers for your RAM <-> L2 <-> L1 transfers

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: would you advise a complete rebuild of the system after changing the flags?

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dtm:

especially if said code fits consistently into cache

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dtm:

SlicerDicer-: NO

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dtm:

SlicerDicer-: that's exactly the point!!!!

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Cardoe:

SlicerDicer-: don't bother

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dtm:

SlicerDicer-: it's impossible to globally optimize an OS

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Cardoe:

it'll work itself through your system eventually

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, hrm. you might want to if you have the time, but yeah, not likely worth it, it will work it's way out

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SlicerDicer-:

ok

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dtm:

SlicerDicer-: it's purely a pastime

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rsquared:

ugh

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: but recompile transcode?

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kormoc:

dtm, his entire os is already built with the flag, he was gonna compile it out

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, for sure

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** Cardoe high fives kormoc **

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I dont mind compiling it

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Beirdo:

Cardoe, yeah -Os can be faster. ;) but that also depends on the architecture

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SlicerDicer-:

I got 2 days before another recording

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Cardoe:

Beirdo: yep

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kormoc:

hehe

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Chutt:

optimizations all depend on what you're running

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dtm:

Beirdo: and the app and the specific machine

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Chutt:

the code

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Beirdo:

there's no one flag that's best in all situations :)

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dtm:

Beirdo: and the context in which the app is run

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Cardoe:

Beirdo: yes there is

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dtm:

<3

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Cardoe:

Anything is better then -march=i386 -O0

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Beirdo:

well -O something is almost ALWAYS better than no optimization

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SlicerDicer-:

but removing the flags like -funroll-loops can remove alot of issues?

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Cardoe:

SlicerDicer-: not issues

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, speed issues, perhaps

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, other issues, likely not

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Cardoe:

but big loops on pure floating point math... yes

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SlicerDicer-:

Cardoe: ahh ok

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SlicerDicer-:

yeah I will just do a full recompile of my system :)

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SlicerDicer-:

whats the worse that can happen?

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Cardoe:

big loops on floating point math will scream without -funroll-loops compared to with it

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SlicerDicer-:

FIRE!??!?! from the cpu going so fast! ;-)

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** kormoc invisions it overheading and melting down **

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Beirdo:

hard drive failure from all the swapping?

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Beirdo:

hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: I dont swap!

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Beirdo:

don't try running Gentoo on a box with not enough RAM

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SlicerDicer-:

;-)

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Beirdo:

it's painful as hell

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SlicerDicer-:

Beirdo: I got 2gb of ram on my mythbox hehe

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kormoc:

Beirdo, just don't add -pipe! :P

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: should I remove pipe?

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Beirdo:

even without -pipe, it will still swap a lot

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Cardoe:

no

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, not at all

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Beirdo:

2G?

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Cardoe:

uh

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Beirdo:

nah, you're good with pipe

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kormoc:

Beirdo, he's a little bit...

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Cardoe:

wtf

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** kormoc makes a coocoo sound **

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Cardoe:

oh

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Cardoe:

without ram

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: any advise before I slam the entire box on full recompile?

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** Cardoe sleeps **

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** kormoc waves to Cardoe **

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kormoc:

sleep well!

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SlicerDicer-:

gnite Cardoe

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Beirdo:

yeah, go get a book or two to read :)

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kormoc:

SlicerDicer-, I would try just transcode first, see if it helps or not

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SlicerDicer-:

dont xvid4 rely on other things other than transcode?

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SlicerDicer-:

should I do those too

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** kormoc shrugs **

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kormoc:

I donno off hand

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Beirdo:

and I should start watching or deleting some Friends episodes

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** kormoc needs to get lirc working on his mythbox **

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SlicerDicer-:

alright kormoc

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SlicerDicer-:

I will manually do a few things

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xris:

kormoc: what ever happened to your speed tests based on compile options?

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I am redoing xvid, ffmpeg, lame

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kormoc:

xris, I screwed it up so I was gonna redo them and forgot, but now I have a standalone box, I'll work on them again

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SlicerDicer-:

just for good measure

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: doesn't emerge have a dependency tree?

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: yeah

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Beirdo:

Oh, I dropped by a store on the way home... they have a box for an Escalade 7506–4LP in the window

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SlicerDicer-:

I am just not able to remember how to force the deptree

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xris:

just re-compile everything associated with transcode?

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Beirdo:

and it's empty, and they have none

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Beirdo:

fucktards

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xris:

Beirdo: lame

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Beirdo:

and he'd order one for $360CDN

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Beirdo:

I told him I'd keep looking

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Beirdo:

I wanted instant gratification, dammit!

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xris:

heh

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kormoc:

xris, sadly, emerge doesn't really have a way to say, emerge depnds of only one level

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SlicerDicer-:

well I can do tree

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SlicerDicer-:

but I dont know how to force it to do all of them

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SlicerDicer-:

hehe

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Beirdo:

WTF?

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kormoc:

empty tree

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Beirdo:

this site is saying that RAID3 is the successor to RAID5?!

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Beirdo:

I think not

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

isn't it more raid 6?

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SlicerDicer-:

holy fuck kormoc

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Beirdo:

maybe, but definitely NOT RAID3

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narf:

ok i still haven't fixed my prob, the output of `cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug` is empty to obviously hotplug isn't getting called

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gWprID44.html

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SlicerDicer-:

yeah I think I should just redo the entire system heh

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SlicerDicer-:

at that kinda deps

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kormoc:

well, yeah, that's why I said myth can't really jsut do 1 level of depends

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SlicerDicer-:

yeah kormoc I will just rebuild the system

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SlicerDicer-:

thats totally insane

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wjy2Db86.html ;-)

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: thanks for the help btw

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kormoc:

np

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SlicerDicer-:

I just wonder how much of a nightmare its going to be after I rebuild everything heh

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kormoc:

why would it be any?

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SlicerDicer-:

cause its what kinda shit flys at me

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kormoc:

as long as you don't -5 etc-update...

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SlicerDicer-:

I am a shit magnet

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SlicerDicer-:

you heard about my mythtv update explosion

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SlicerDicer-:

something that would have normally worked without a problem exploded

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I dont run -5 ;-)

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narf:

woot i got the firmware to load!! apparently the default firmware directory in gentoo is /lib/firmware rather than /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: btw I am getting HDTV box on wednesday I will let you know how it goes :)

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SlicerDicer-:

I am super excited after xris sent me that HDTV clip I have been obsessed lol

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rsquared:

have fun not being able to get any channels w/5c

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SlicerDicer-:

rsquared: lower channels work

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rsquared:

yes.. they do

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SlicerDicer-:

thats all I care about

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rsquared:

but i can't tune discHD, hboHD, inhd 1&2

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SlicerDicer-:

ABC and so forth

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SlicerDicer-:

I want Lost

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SlicerDicer-:

Lost in HDTV

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: I still need to get those parameters from you so I can try to encode from the mythtranscode signal

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rsquared:

yeah.. well.. i'd like to be able to watch baseball games in HD

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pjn:

would anybody be able to point me in the direction of solving the following, which started happening after mythfrontend segfaulted. http://www.panic.id.au/mytherror.txt

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: alright

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: I will have to dig them up

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: First HD channel ever (king5), and one of the highest numbers of HD channels in the country.

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SlicerDicer-:

what about kong?

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SlicerDicer-:

;-)

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SlicerDicer-:

king kong!!!!

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rsquared:

it would be cool if i could use ac3 passthrough to spdif w/non hd channels coming off my dct6200

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xris:

I don't think kong is in HD.

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kormoc:

pjn, might want to restart mysql

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pjn:

kormoc: tried that

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xris:

nope, no HD. at least not that I can receive.

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SlicerDicer-:

komo is xris

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SlicerDicer-:

thats all I care about hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

Lost in HDTV ;-)

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SlicerDicer-:

I dont watch King typically

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xris:

I don't receive that one half of the time.

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xris:

kind of lame

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kormoc:

pjn, it might be corrupt then, if you're sure your user name and password is correct, as it's not allowing access anymore

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xris:

but I have a tiny antenna, and am on the back side of a hill from the transmitters.

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: do you use comcast HDTV box or how do you get your HDTV?

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xris:

blech. no cable crap for me.

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SlicerDicer-:

ahh

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SlicerDicer-:

yeah thats how I am doing it

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SlicerDicer-:

firewire from comcrap box

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rsquared:

same

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rsquared:

i was thinking about getting a firewire card w/a similar chip to the ones that have 5c capabilites and resoldering

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rsquared:

one w/5c

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SlicerDicer-:

holy crap xris over the air is that nice?

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SlicerDicer-:

rsquared: there is no chip for 5c

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SlicerDicer-:

heh

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rsquared:

yeah there is

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SlicerDicer-:

not for computers anyway that I know of

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rsquared:

TI makes em

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rsquared:

not for computers

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: digital is digital

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rsquared:

but.. you know.. match the pins

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rsquared:

and it might work

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rsquared:

lol

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xris:

gets pixelated/jumpy when the quality is bad, but the picture is always great.

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xris:

s/quality/signal/

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SlicerDicer-:

yeah xris there is no way I could get the signal out in north bend heh

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rsquared:

yeah.. i live on the other side of a hill from the HD towers

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rsquared:

it sucks

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rsquared:

i wish i lived in SF again

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xris:

SlicerDicer-: you'd be surprised... you're at a higher altitude, depending on which side of the moutain you're on

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SlicerDicer-:

I am blocked completely

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: I live on rattlesnake ridge

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xris:

ah

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xris:

well, so much for that idea.

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xris:

comcast + firewire is your best bet, then.

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xris:

I really only have HD because Jarod gave me an extra/old air2pc card so I could test 1080i with nuvexport.

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rsquared:

that reminds me.. i need to go through and delete some channels

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rsquared:

is it possible to use 2 6200's?

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kormoc:

rsquared, if you mean nvidia cards, for sure

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aquatic0384:

ok well after going through the entire install tutorial in fedora core, i start the frontend after configuring it, and go to watch tv, to find that it freezes and i dont know how to get out

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rsquared:

cable boxes

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aquatic0384:

i am looking at a black screen right now and i cannot seem to exit it

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aquatic0384:

help?

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rsquared:

actually, i just wanna use the 2nd one via the svideo out via pvr250 and changing channels via firewire so i can record the encrypted channels

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rsquared:

even though it'll only be 480i

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xris:

aquatic0384: hit escape.. or if it's crashed... control-alt-backspace will kill X

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rsquared:

lol.. my boss yelled at me cuz i had 4 iso's downloading so i could deploy a server

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rsquared:

he's like "i set you to 10mb till the downloads are done"

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rsquared:

and now he's playing unreal

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rsquared:

greaaaaaaaaaat

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aquatic0384:

k neither works

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aquatic0384:

guess it just shut down?

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aquatic0384:

odd the lights are still on

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aquatic0384:

and show activity

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aquatic0384:

how do i change channels with the keyboard

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xris:

aquatic0384: up/down/numbers

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xris:

control-alt-backspace should kill X.. if that doesn't, then it's hard-locked and you need to just reset the box

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aquatic0384:

k

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aquatic0384:

it is locked

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aquatic0384:

so what might cause it to just lock like that?

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aquatic0384:

where do i start to troubleshoot

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SlicerDicer-:

xris: well once I get it I can help you test the nuvexport stuff :)

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xris:

:)

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SlicerDicer-:

kormoc: I am trying to figure out why its bothering me about dev-lang/php I dont have that merged

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SlicerDicer-:

its blocking may mammoth update haha

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narf:

what does this mean? DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for transport 0

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shadsash:

can anybody help me to understand why mythtvburn isn't part of the main build?

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feld:

shadsash: because it dosent come with the main build

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shadsash:

or something else like it

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SlicerDicer-:

feld: worky?

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feld:

SlicerDicer-: still worky

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feld:

:)

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SlicerDicer-:

right on

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feld:

nearing 20 hours

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SlicerDicer-:

good stuff :)

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feld:

yeah I'm hoping so

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SlicerDicer-:

well I mean I have had so many issues with that

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shadsash:

so can anybody (besides feld) help me to understand why mythtvburn isn't part of the main build?

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SlicerDicer-:

that I am pretty sure that was the problem of yours

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dberry:

does anyone using proxypass to forward an external web connection to an internal mythweb box?

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feld:

i just use port forwarding dberry

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SlicerDicer-:

shit I forgot to ask Cardoe to do something hehe

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SlicerDicer-:

drat

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dberry:

yeah, the problem is that i already have a web site up and running on a box

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feld:

dberry: so?

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dberry:

and would like to keep it clean

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dberry:

using just the proxy stuff

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feld:

mythtv runs @ port 555 here

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feld:

and phpmp @ 666

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dberry:

i might have to do that

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feld:

yeah

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feld:

and then I have .htaccess password protecting it

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feld:

so nobody finds my site and deletes recordings

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dberry:

what is phpmp?

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feld:

web frontend to mpd

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feld:

mpd+icecast controlled over the web via phpmp

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feld:

for streaming music wherever I go

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feld:

:)

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dberry:

ah, nice

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feld:

i can show you, one second

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Juski:

shadash: mythburn isn't part of the main build because.. it's a big lump of code that adds lots of (unreliable) dependencies. and it's very hacky

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SlicerDicer-:

ARGHsauce heh

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feld:

dberry: feld.sh.nu:555

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dberry:

nice, good song list too

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feld:

yeah and then another port lets me listen to the stream in a music program

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shadsash:

Juski: Thank you

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feld:

it's on my mythtv box also :)

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dberry:

where the hell is .nu?

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feld:

nowhere

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feld:

just owned by a friend in California

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feld:

free

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feld:

sh.nu — go there

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dberry:

those are the best

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feld:

:)

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aquatic0384:

ok so when i start the backend for the first time it does some stuff then says running housekeeping

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aquatic0384:

and seems to stop

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aquatic0384:

is that normal and how long does this take

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aquatic0384:

or should it take

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aquatic0384:

it keeps saying "running housekeeping" every 5 minutes

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aquatic0384:

ok so when i start the backend for the first time it does some stuff then says running housekeeping, and seems to stop. is that normal and how long does this take? it keeps saying "running housekeeping" every 5 minutes

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xris:

aquatic0384: sounds like the backend is running

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xris:

it's not going to print stuff out unless it'd doing things.

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aquatic0384:

ok

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aquatic0384:

hummm

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aquatic0384:

well that is good

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aquatic0384:

the schedule seems to work

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astate:

i'm getting a bunch of "libmythui-0.19.so: undefined reference to ..." before compiling of mythtv fails...all of them are "QGLWidget"s...am I missing something?

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xris:

astate: opengl qt headers?

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** Kelerion checks commits to see if it's worth upgrading svn from a couple of weeks ago – although everything is running sweetly **

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astate:

xris...i just found something about that on a webpage....I know QT was compiled with opengl though (gentoo, had it in the "USE" variable)

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Juski:

Kelerion: apparently there are nice sexy menu transitiony type things

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Kelerion:

you teasing me?

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Juski:

nope – that's what I've heard today

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astate:

arg, i just need a backend...i dunno why I have to have X and QT and all this

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Juski:

astate: you just _do_, m'kay

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** Kelerion gets excited and goes to find a commit **

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Cardoe:

SlicerDicer-: wha?

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GreyFoxx:

Juski: 3 of my msntv's showed up today! looks like I have some new toys to play with :)

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SlicerDicer-:

Cardoe: can you please add ~amd64 to nuvexport ebuild keywords

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Cardoe:

ok

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SlicerDicer-:

everytime I emerge sync I have to manually add it

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SlicerDicer-:

:)

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SlicerDicer-:

it works with AMD64 so

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SlicerDicer-:

thanks Cardoe you rock!

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Cardoe:

done

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Cardoe:

give it like 15–20 min to hit the rsyncs

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Juski:

GreyFoxx: wicked!

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GreyFoxx:

I had it up and playing stuff using the built in msntv player hehe

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GreyFoxx:

the tv out quality is good :)

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Beirdo:

more toys for GreyFoxx?

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GreyFoxx:

after my little one goes to bed I'll solder up the connector and put linux on it

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GreyFoxx:

Beirdo yeah :)

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Beirdo:

crazy east-coaster :)

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

congrats, more toys is always good

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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astate:

does myth work with qt4.1.1, or do I have to use qt3x?

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Kelerion:

qt3

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astate:

ah

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astate:

i think that might be my problem

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astate:

the first time I emerged it I had -opengl in my use, then mythtv complained so I added it and re-emerged qt, but i think that just compiled qt4.1.1 with opengl headers

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Kelerion:

well.. I *think* it only works with qt3... qt4 was on the list of todo things last time I checked but they were waiting for more dists to ship with qt4... but my info could be out of date

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GreyFoxx:

you are correct

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Kelerion:

ahh.. am learning obiwan :)

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astate:

k, 3.3.5 should work, right?

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astate:

just to double check ;)

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astate:

as qt takes a couple hours

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astate:

er, well emerge says that one causes a lot of compilation errors

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astate:

so 3.3.4-r8?

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Kelerion:

I have no idea sorry... I don't use gentoo

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Kelerion:

that should work.. thats what I'm running on my ubuntu apparently

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astate:

thanks

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SlicerDicer-:

well feld you survived the 20hour mark it looks like!

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Kelerion:

Juski, just installed zone-minders livecd – it worked first time

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Kelerion:

am lettings it do a install-to-hd now

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kusznir:

hi all: I've got a problem getting Myth to work with ALSA. It outputs, but I have to disable the mixer controls. As I now use computer speakers for my sound output, I kinda need myth's volume controls to work.

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kusznir:

I think the core of the problem is my sound card doesn't have "Master" or "PCM" controls — The only one of interest here is "Analog Front". I tried setting my mixer controls to "default" and "Analog Front", but I got the same error about not finding PCM.

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kusznir:

(I did go back and verify in the settings, it did still have "Analog Front" in the mixer control)

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kusznir:

Any suggestions?

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rsquared:

dunno

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rsquared:

i have no volume controls in myth through my spdif out

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Kelerion:

no idea.. never seen a sound card without pcm

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rsquared:

i can't wait to sue my ex

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kusznir:

Its a SoundBlaster Audiogy(sp?).

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rsquared:

it'll be great

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Kelerion:

I would have thought Audigy's had Master and PCM – but i've never used one

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rsquared:

it should

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rsquared:

my audigy does

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rsquared:

but i'm leaving

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rsquared:

have a good weekend

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mikehull:

I'm having a problem with 6200ch. I'm having trouble debugging it. It works fine when I try to debug with gdb or strace. It also works if I type randomly in an ssh session (which is is the only clue i have). At first I thought, network IRQs might be making it work, but that's not the case. So, now i'm at a dead end. Anyone heard of anything like this before? Any ideas?

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mikehull:

lspci says: FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (rev 04)

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mikehull:

i'm not sure what brand i'm using

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mikehull:

i think the problem is related to the firewire hardware/driver

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mlb:

has anyone used nuvexport as a job?

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Servo888:

what happens if you have a recording setup for 10pm... and at that same time your watching live tv?

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Cardoe:

it'll ask you what you want to do

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Servo888:

if I say, record, will I be able to watch while it records?

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Servo888:

watch 'what' it records I mean

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jnunez:

Q: If I run the backend on one machine and the frontend on 2 other computers can I have recordings transcoded on the frontends?

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jnunez:

Servo888: depends on your tuner and CPU

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Servo888:

jnunez, it's a pvr 150 by hauppauge, and the tv out is done via xvmc.

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jnunez:

CPU?

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Servo888:

800mhz

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jnunez:

xvmc? what vid card?

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Servo888:

20% cpu when watching live tv

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Servo888:

geforce 4 4000

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jnunez:

I have a 933MHZ, PVR150 and a NVidia 5200 and I can watch and record the same program

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Servo888:

I'll give it a shot.

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Servo888:

Also, what was the plugin called were you could just take the mpg stream, edit out commericals, and just ouput them with out doing encoding

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jnunez:

I think that is a new feature in .19

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jnunez:

I use knoppmyth so I haven't upgraded yet

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Servo888:

what's the remove commerial button again?

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Servo888:

like in the watching recordings I think you need to click a key to so that

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Servo888:

do*

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Servo888:

or something

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jnunez:

Well I have the flagging after recording, I goto to the editor (E) and load the Flags(Z) and inspect it. After wards I hit X to transcode it

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Servo888:

jnunez, how do you get to the editor?

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jnunez:

Start viewing a recording and then hit E

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Servo888:

ohh hehe now I got it ;-0

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jnunez:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/keys.txt – Keys

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aquatic0384:

ok my mythtv seems to be all setup, i can watch dvds, weather, news, but i cannot get the tv to work. everytime i start tv, it switches over to a blank screen, and then the screen just goes really dark and locks the computer, i have to hard reset

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jnunez:

aquatic0384: try the following:

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Yellow-Snow:

arg someone tell me when mythtv was first released?

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Yellow-Snow:

i want to know how long i have missed out!

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blaine:

Anyone having trouble getting audio in the new internal DVD player in 0.19?

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Kelerion:

I used it Dec 04.. and it was at .15 I think

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jnunez:

Open a shell and run your frontend with the & so you can see what is happenning while in the black screen. Oh set you mode to Window instead of fullscreen

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Yellow-Snow:

omg 04?

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Yellow-Snow:

2 years?

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Kelerion:

might have been an earlier version.. can't remember for sure

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Kelerion:

yup

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Yellow-Snow:

wow how is that possible i missed it for that long

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Kelerion:

I searched the archives a couple of nights ago and found my first post

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jnunez:

I choose Freevo in 04 over MythTv due to Python scripting

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Yellow-Snow:

it should of been so many webpages and such

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blaine:

Is there a menu I'm missing for indicating the sound device to the internal DVD?

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blaine:

It's totally silent.

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blaine:

Silent movies.

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jnunez:

blaine: did you check your mixer?

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Juski:

well... time for bed. need to be up earlyish

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Juski:

night all

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blaine:

Yes, nothing muted but the 3D sound

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jnunez:

later Juski

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Yellow-Snow:

later

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blaine:

levels look good

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jnunez:

Sorry blaine

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blaine:

rats

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jnunez:

Does anyone know if I can get a frontend connected to my Master to transcode videos?

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jnunez:

Wonder if I can install on a USB key just so I can use my son's PC to transcode my recording. He has 2.8GHz

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phar0e:

juski happy hunting scallies

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jerky_2:

hey guys... i see there is a FC4 kernel update to version 2.6.15–1.1833_FC4, do you guys recommend an upgrade?

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jerky_2:

also, i'm getting some audio stuttering using XvMC w/ HDTV playback and the wiki's suggestions haven't fixed the problem... any suggestions?

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jerky_2:

i am currently on kernel 1831 so i'm not sure if it's worth it

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dat:

quick question.. what does it mean if in mythtv-setup, when i go to input connections, nothing shows up?

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dat:

does that mean my card wasn't detected?

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aquatic0384:

where and how do i get transcoding?

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aquatic0384:

and what is it?

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aquatic0384:

because i dont have a hardware encoder, so dont i need i?

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jerky_2:

dat, i think so... check to see if /dev/dvb exists, or wherever your card should be

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jerky_2:

aquatic0384, transcoding is taking a stream and decoding/reencoding it to another stream, usually to shrink the file size and quality

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aquatic0384:

so i dont ned it o watch live tv?

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jerky_2:

you don't need to use a hardware encoder to do that, you can use your CPU, but it usually takes a long time

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jerky_2:

no, a system usually can't keep up if you do it to live tv

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jerky_2:

you would only do it if you wanted to shrink files down and store them long term

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dat:

jerky_2, i'm using a pvr250

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aquatic0384:

wel i have a capture card not a hardware encoder

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dat:

jerky_2, and my dmesg output is...

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dat:

sh-3.00$ dmesg | grep -i pvr

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dat:

[4297567.011000] ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 250 card (cx23416 based)

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jerky_2:

dat, that's good, but you may still need to do some modprobe to load the right module

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jerky_2:

try ls /dev/dvb and see if anything is there

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dat:

jerky_2, i did a modprobe on ivtv.. do i need anything else?

[03:56:28]

aquatic0384:

so youre saying that it cant keep up with live tv that is why its locking up with a blackscreen?

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dat:

jerky_2, /dev/dvb isn't there.. i thought i should be using /dev/video0 or /dev/video1.. something like that

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jerky_2:

dat, not sure... google for it. for my card it's /dev/dvb, for your card might be /dev/video*

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jerky_2:

my card is a pcHDTV 3000, i have to do modprobe cx88-dvb before it works

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jerky_2:

aquatic0384, turn off transcoding. you don't want it. see if that helps

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aquatic0384:

where do i find it

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aquatic0384:

?

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narf:

quick question: where did the "Use hardware XvMC MPEG Decoding" move to in myth 0.19?

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jerky_2:

aquatic0384, i don't know, you asked me :)

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jerky_2:

narf, that option is "Standard XvMC" now

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jerky_2:

under TV settings -> playback -> preferred mpeg2 decoder

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narf:

well i tried that and it's not working

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jerky_2:

it's not a check box any more, it's one of the decoders

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jerky_2:

which graphics card and driver are you using?

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narf:

it doesn't change the speed of playback or cpu load

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jerky_2:

then it's not working for you

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narf:

nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3

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jerky_2:

use driver 7676, that one has known problems

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narf:

o really?

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jerky_2:

yah, see this page for lots of info: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC

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kormoc:

narf, all you need to do is disable opengl timing and it's fine

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narf:

kormoc: ok i'll try that first

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Kelerion:

ok – those new menu transitions are really nice

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Kelerion:

anyways.. bedtime :)

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narf:

kormoc: it didn't make a difference

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kormoc:

narf, what's the issue?

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aquatic0384:

i will try in a sec

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narf:

disabling opengl timing didn't allow the nvidia 8178 driver to function correctly

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jerky_2:

narf, i know it is painful, but you will have to revert to the 7676 driver

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jerky_2:

i ran into the same problems

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narf:

i'm doing that now :-)

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narf:

it's just crazy that nvidia didn't test that it actually worked before releasing it

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Chutt:

almost nothing besides myth uses that gl extension

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narf:

mplayer i suppose also

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Chutt:

nope

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narf:

really?

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narf:

that doesn't make sense

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Chutt:

why?

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jerky_2:

narf, i agree... i hope nvidia fixes the issue soon, 8178 worked well for me in quake 4

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narf:

well i downgraded and now i'm getting lots of these http://webcreations.homelinux.com/paste.txt

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phar0e:

who sees any potential problems by merging some recorded info from my old database which dates back to aug 2003 into my newer database?

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narf:

didn't find any solutions on google

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bmk789:

if its not on google, it doesnt exist

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phar0e:

lol isn't microsoft supposed to be releasing some "better" search engine in 6 months time?

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narf:

hehe

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narf:

that should be amusing

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bmk789:

their "avalanche" wont work either

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narf:

they should name it giggle so we can all laugh at it

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bmk789:

lol

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phar0e:

anyone here use channel icons?

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mchou:

phar0e: you look up the info for me? :)

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mchou:

phar0e: need to know what chips you got

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narf:

good answer lol

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phar0e:

haha I got the PCI card right here buddy

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mchou:

phar0e: hehe

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phar0e:

on the chip it says "VIA6202"

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phar0e:

oh wait, are we talking USB 2.0 pci card or that NAS?

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mchou:

phar0e: haha!! told you!

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phar0e:

is that the bad one?

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mchou:

phar0e: yeah

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phar0e:

haha

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phar0e:

well I'm glad to know that now

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mchou:

if you use via use 6212 (fixed)

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mchou:

phar0e: how about the nas?

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phar0e:

that's locked up downstairs so I'm unsure

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mchou:

phar0e: ok, np

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mchou:

but do look it up when you get a chance

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phar0e:

but it's working beautifully so the bottleneck had've been the via6202

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mchou:

phar0e: yeah, most likely

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mchou:

phar0e: now you need to figure out how to turn off dhcpd on the NAS

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phar0e:

I don't see how other than programming a new firmware for the device

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phar0e:

and I'm not a programmer, I can barely turn on my systems

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mchou:

phar0e: you sure web config doesnt contain that option?

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phar0e:

I'm _POSITIVE_

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mchou:

that's pretty fubar

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phar0e:

I tried so hard to disable it, there's just not an option, if it doesn't find an authoritative DHCP server on the network it assumes I want it to be authoritative

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mchou:

phar0e: time to hack your router then, I suppose

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phar0e:

it's not worth the headache, the throughput over the RJ45 port is only like... 2000KB/s, USB2.0 will give me much better performance

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phar0e:

and my slackware server it's hooked up to it rock stable so.. just not worth the headache, but I can still hate it

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mchou:

ok

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narf:

are there any restrictions in the nvidia xvmc code to specific screen resolutions? i'm using 1360x768

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topping:

anyone used a distributed file system for their storage yet?

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Chutt:

Cardoe, issues?

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CyberKnet:

evening

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Chutt:

i want a web-based book collection/database app

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Cromz:

Chutt, http://mediamate.rocks.cc/

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kormoc:

http://library.thebookforum.com/ I know some people who use it

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Chutt:

i use readerware, now

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kormoc:

so would anyone know offhand where the lirc commands to jump to a mythtv section is documented?

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Chutt:

but i generate my collection list ( http://www.mythtv.org/books/ ) manually

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Chutt:

kormoc, mythweb, the jump points list

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kormoc:

Chutt, Thanks muchly

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kormoc:

Chutt, you have a nice collection of books there

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Chutt:

that's not been updated in a few weeks

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topping:

Chutt: I just saw something like this for mac

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topping:

they use the UPC reader that used to be sold at radio shack

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topping:

it's probably on PC as well

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Chutt:

as i said, i use readerware (www.readerware.com)

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topping:

oh is that the one... lol sry

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Chutt:

i'd _prefer_ something web based

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Chutt:

that mediamate thing cromz linked to might be ok

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topping:

yah that looks pretty cool

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Chutt:

kormoc, http://www.mythtv.org/books2.jpg

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Chutt:

that's from last june when i painted my old office/library

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kormoc:

hehe, I'm a bit jealous, as my collection is like 1/15th yours :)

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mchou:

topping: dfs lik wgat?

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mchou:

topping: dfs like what?

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topping:

like lustre

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topping:

petabytes of movies and music!! hehe

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Chutt:

heh

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Chutt:

mediamate has a ubuntu package, but can't install

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Cardoe:

Chutt: apparently my internet connection was sucking it up

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Chutt:

apparently? heh

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Chutt:

ah well, bed time for me.

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Cromz:

night Chutt

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Chutt:

Cromz, thanks for that url

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Cromz:

no prob.. I used it a few systems ago :/ hope it'll do ya good.

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kormoc:

night night Chutt

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achew22:

Does anyone know of a pci card that will output a component video that outputs YPbPr?

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** kormoc raises an eyebrow **

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kormoc:

isn't component RGB?

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xris:

no

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xris:

achew22: my pci-E card does.. probably doesn't help you, though.

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achew22:

will it work over agp

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xris:

kormoc: the plugs are RGB, but the signal is whatever that YPbPr stuff is.

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xris:

achew22: it's pci-E

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xris:

might be some agp ones out there, dunno.

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kormoc:

ahh

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achew22:

anyone have any links

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xris:

achew22: I'd suggest the power search feature at newegg

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kormoc:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814270010

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kormoc:

that one perhaps?

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kormoc:

tho, I have to say, I have no idea if that card is supported under linux

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achew22:

thats not composite

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xris:

lame. power search doesn't actually list component as an option.

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xris:

achew22: you said component

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achew22:

wait...

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achew22:

that doesn't have either

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achew22:

the one that has red green and blue — the high def one

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kormoc:

that is component, and that is component

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achew22:

it has dvi and vga thats it

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kormoc:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?i . . . 20-%20Retail

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kormoc:

notice the red, green, and blue blugs

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kormoc:

*plugs

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xris:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp . . . eValue=679%3

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xris:

oops, that was long.

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kormoc:

and how it has hdtv out listed?

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xris:

anyway, there's at least one MSI right near the top that has a component adapter cable included with it.

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achew22:

thats through dvi

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xris:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127203

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achew22:

I don't have dvi in on my tv

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kormoc:

achew22, no it's not

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achew22:

"HDTV/S-Video Out" but that wont output YPbPg

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astate:

is mysql required for frontendonly mythtv installs?

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kormoc:

achew22, it means it does both...

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astate:

er compiles

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kormoc:

astate, yes

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kormoc:

astate, the headers are at least

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astate:

and I'd bet there's no way to emerge just the headers with gentoo?

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xris:

achew22: look at the link I pasted you

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kormoc:

astate, correct

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kormoc:

xris, that's the same one I just got! :)

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xris:

kormoc: I was just noticing that

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xris:

then it's a worthy card, too. cheap, does what achew22 seems to need.

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kormoc:

yeah, other then he wants a pci one

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achew22:

one sec my girl called

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** xris goes to spend time with his wife.... (afk) **

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achew22:

she == angry

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kormoc:

and the one I linked is the only pci card that is listed on new egg that does it

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** kormoc waves to xris **

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tetrawr_:

astate: are you trying to avoid mysql? :)

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tetrawr_:

what would cause an NFS mount to show 7 GB free when the local machine shows 35 GB free?

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spher1:

xpis: still having connection issues?

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kusznir:

Has anyone been able to override the default "Master" or "PCM" values in the frontend sound config? I'm using ALSA, I put in "default" for the slider, but it can't find "PCM". Its supposed to be "Analog Front", but when I type that in, it still errors out with "can't find PCM".

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sphery:

kusznir: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/184107#184107

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kusznir:

Cool...my googling didn't find that one....Thanks.

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sphery:

np

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Tsagadai:

just wondering if anyone can help me with configuring channels for digital tv in australia

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eiggirC:

not I sorry.

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fryfrog:

unrelated to myth question for anyone around...

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fryfrog:

http://fryfrog.com/wordpress/v/MaryAnn-Donnie . . . 857.JPG.html

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fryfrog:

the pic is "640xsomething"

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fryfrog:

should i make it bigger, to get closer to the ~800px it could be?

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fryfrog:

humm, failed to open stream: Too many open files

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fryfrog:

when trying to run "recreate resized images" on a big-ish album

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phar0e:

hey fryfrog, does google pay you well?

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Hoxzer:

where is mythbackend log located?'

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Hoxzer:

found it

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phar0e:

:)

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Hoxzer:

backend crashes just confuse me

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Hoxzer:

backend is up and running like 24h after it crashes

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Hoxzer:

would be nice if there would be option for auto restart

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phar0e:

could write a simple crontab job for that

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phar0e:

that calls a program, if the process isn't running it starts it

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phar0e:

can check every 5 minutes, might even be one in the wiki, not sure

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Hoxzer:

k

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Juski:

Hoxzer: it'd be altogether better to find out why mythbackend is crashing – it shouldn't do that, so to 'fix' it by restarting it is pointless IMHO

[09:22:09]

phar0e:

my cable company sucks balls

[09:22:22]

phar0e:

you find them scallies yet juski?

[09:22:28]

phar0e:

or are cameras not hooked up yet?

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Pitchin_uk:

morning room

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Juski:

phar0e: no not yet. We have snow now so they probably didn't bother. Maybe they'll never come down our street again, who knows

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Hoxzer:

juski: yeah, I'm checking .log files atm

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Juski:

just searching through last night's activity log ;)

[09:24:39]

Hoxzer:

ok, I think I found out the problem

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Hoxzer:

there is one folder in record dir that dont have permission to write for user mythtv

[09:25:31]

Pitchin_uk:

http://pastebin.com/583215 – where can i get tv_grab_uk_rt from??

[09:26:11]

Juski:

oo there's like almost an hour (2am-3am) where no cars go past my house. never knew my street was so busy

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Pitchin_uk:

Morning Juski

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Juski:

Pitchin_uk: the error is that tv_grab_uk_rt can't find your config file.. again

[09:27:13]

Pitchin_uk:

yeah – my machine died :(

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Juski:

install xmltv

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galorin:

Is the svn server down?

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xris:

galorin: ssh works fine for me

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Juski:

Pitchin_uk: it died? wtf? my bag 'o' bones backend can stay up for > 6months by itself, though I do have a habit of maintaining it (fan swaps, HDD upgrades, check airflow etc)

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fryfrog:

phar0e: yeah, i make phat google cash

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fryfrog:

$14 in like 4 months!

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Hoxzer:

can I somehow convert mythtv dvb subtitles to the .sub or .srt format?

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Juski:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.mplayer.user.dvb/1125

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Juski:

Hoxzer: ^^^^

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phar0e:

fryfrog: not bad for 2–3 visitors only

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Pitchin_uk:

juski – its been a bit flakey for a little while – its my machine i do everything on

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fryfrog:

phar0e: yup, i guess i have click happy 2 – 3 visitors :)

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phar0e:

oh you only get paid if people click?

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Pitchin_uk:

juski – whats a good setting for the channel and tuning timeouts??

[09:51:38]

Juski:

Hoxzer: well, here's some news for you. I'm playing a DVB recording in VLC – selected the subtitles & they work, so they must be in a standard mpeg subtitle format ;-)

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Hoxzer:

k...

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Juski:

Pitchin_uk: try doubling em... makes livetv pretty useless though – but then live DVB is pretty damn near useless anyway IMHO. expect improvements soon ;-)

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Pitchin_uk:

juski – cool will do

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phar0e:

I love computers but I hate my cable company because they can't delivery HDTV properly

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Juski:

phar0e: kick, punch & scream.. they'll carry on regardless. THE MAN is gonna take our TV out of our hands ;-)

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Hoxzer:

is there some special way to view subtitles in recorded programs?

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Juski:

special way.. hmmm... press M , bring up the OSD, then select 'view subtitles'

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Juski:

I think they'll get discarded if you transcode though

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Hoxzer:

I tried

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Hoxzer:

but doesn't work

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Hoxzer:

in live tv it does work

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Juski:

in 0.19? works fine here

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** Gumby wonders why his sound card will not record the audio stream from his tuner card. **

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Juski:

actually works on recordings I made in 0.19

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Juski:

.. and it works on recordings I made before 0.19 as far as I can tell ;-)

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Gumby:

could my problem with not being able to hear audio anywhere other than in livetv using tvtime be an alsa problem? (all sound works elsewhere)

[10:12:59]

Gumby:

it just seems to be the recording/processing of input that doesnt work

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Juski:

Gumby: if it works in livetv it should work for recorded shows. live tv is, after all recorded

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Juski:

oh it works in tvtime

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Gumby:

Juski: I dont mean livetv in mythtv.

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Juski:

heh

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Gumby:

:)

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Juski:

funny, but there was a guy with the same problem

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Juski:

the solution for him was to use a control command to enable the sound on his tuner card

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Gumby:

I've checked in alsamixer at home on my FC4 box and in the "Playback" screen I have volume control on "Line" But on this other box I dont

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Juski:

something like v4lctl

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Gumby:

ah.

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Gumby:

I'll do some googling

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Juski:

Gumby: it'll be in the logs from last week

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Gumby:

which can be found where? mythtv.org?

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Gumby:

I may or may not have been here. hehe

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Juski:

!help

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Juski:

http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1/history

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Gumby:

thx

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Hoxzer:

where can I choose default language for DVB subtitles?

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Juski:

in some settings menu or other. look for it yourself you lazy, lazy user

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Juski:

Gumby: I got it! mythmonkey: I downloaded and installed xawtv, then used v4lctl to unmute the tv card. Hey presto, sound!!!

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Hoxzer:

I already looked it by my self in settings but everything seems to pass rigth before my eyes

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Gumby:

Juski: hrm, maybe. But my card already has audio coming from it

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Juski:

never mind then Hoxzer

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Gumby:

if I plug speakers into the cards output I get audio

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Gumby:

if I open tvtime I get audio

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Juski:

Gumby: ahhhh. and you've set your alsamixer 'record' channel to the one your tv audio cable is plugged into, yes?

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Gumby:

if I open mythtv I get no audio

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Gumby:

Juski: yes

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Gumby:

its set to "Line"

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Juski:

you tried using arecord when tvtime is running, to verify you can actually record audio with your soundcard?

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Gumby:

maybe I can try Mic

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Juski:

no! Mic is too sensitive & it'll distort

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Gumby:

Juski: nope, I'll look into that though. Shouldnt be a hardware problem though. Ive used this tuner and sound card together before.

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Juski:

open tvtime & use a sound recorder app to check it

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Gumby:

k

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** Gumby figures out how to record audio. hehe **

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Hoxzer:

how do I check mythtv versio?

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Gumby:

which distro?

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Juski:

Hoxzer, have you not picked up a single thing after all the (same) questions you ask? I'm not meaning to be personal, but do you even read what people say here?

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Hoxzer:

yeah, but then I forget :)

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Juski:

mythfrontend --version

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Juski:

mythbackend --version

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Juski:

mythfrontend --help – I mean how hard is it to work out? ;-)

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Hoxzer:

;-) I tried in ssh connection but x wasn't on

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Juski:

how hard is it to know what version of mythtv you're running? Unless you're using SVN it's fairly clear-cut I'd have thought

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rf:

any ideas why mythtv might be losing the 'start channel' information for the input card and thereby causing issues when trying to watch tv? (blank screen)

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Calroth:

didn't something like that get fixed for 0.19?

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rf:

i hope so... i'm still on .18x

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Calroth:

up until then, i just had an sql script to run to reset the initial channel

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Calroth:

echo "update cardinput set startchan = 5 where cardinputid = 1;" | mysql --user=mythtv --password=...... mythconverg

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Calroth:

brute force solutions ahoy :-)

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rf:

Calroth: when do you run that script? I'm getting other errors in the backend now and still no tv.

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rf:

2006-03–04 22:10:42.038 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup.

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Calroth:

oh, i just run it when i get that error you talked about

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Calroth:

you did change the startchan and cardinputid to suit yourself, right?

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rf:

ahh. i changed the channel but not cardinput... hang

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Calroth:

shutting down mythbackend first?

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rf:

err nope.

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rf:

will try that now too

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Calroth:

yah

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rf:

Calroth: you rule :-)

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Calroth:

;-)

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phar0e:

so who can explain to me what the hell mythflix is?

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Juski:

mythflix is a plugin which lets you manage your netflix account (online DVD rental)

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phar0e:

ok thank you

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sona:

I have an ati radeon 9700, using ati's binary drivers, what should I compile the frontend with to get smoothvideo playback, right now playback is to slow for livetv, the frontend just crashes

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rf:

should I be losing audio when changing channels? (comes back if I hit ESC and select Watch TV again)

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joeeex:

hi

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joeeex:

I have 0.19 but the program guide dose not work on dvb-c

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joeeex:

I have an Terratec Cinergy 1200 DVB-C card.

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joeeex:

Is there some way I can debug it?

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joeeex:

And when I start the backend so do I get this:

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joeeex:

Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Could not open network socket

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joeeex:

the backend is changing the ports evrytime I start it.

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joeeex:

eg the port numbers.

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joeeex:

There is no other program listening on port 6543 and 6544

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joeeex:

Where is the ports defined for the backend?

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rf:

i think its stored in the mysql db

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rf:

and set in the mythtv-setup step 1

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rf:

but dont take my word for it – i'm new to all this myself

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joeeex:

ok

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haffe:

Hi, I checked the faq, but I can't seem to find the information I'm looking for. I run knoppmyth, and I wonder if I can use an old SE T610 as a remote (via bluetooth).

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RaYmAn-Bx:

haffe: google is helpful: http://tuxmobil.org/phones_survey_ericsson.html

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Gumby:

does anyone here know if there are debian mythtv builds anymore?

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haffe:

RaYmAn-Bx: None of the links on that site mentions what I want to do.

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fryfrog:

i don't spose anyone here is quite skilled with photoshop?

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RaYmAn-Bx:

haffe: look at the LIRC and "HOWTOs: Mobile Phone as Remote Control" sections perhaps..It looks like LIRC has support for it (at least some bluetooth phones as remotes)

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Tsagadai:

I've got a problem with mythfilldatabase, my error printout is

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Tsagadai:

2006-03–04 22:36:20.650 New DB connection, total: 1

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Tsagadai:

2006-03–04 22:36:20.703 New DB connection, total: 2

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Tsagadai:

----------------- Start of XMLTV output -----------------

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Tsagadai:

2006-03–04 22:36:20.707 New DB connection, total: 3

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Tsagadai:

tv_grab_au – (version 0.6.2 – release 2005-05–31)

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Tsagadai:

config file /root/.mythtv/aus.xmltv does not exist, run me with --configure

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Tsagadai:

------------------ End of XMLTV output ------------------

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Tsagadai:

Error in 3:1: unexpected end of file

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Tsagadai:

Updating icons for sourceid: 1

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Tsagadai:

2006-03–04 22:36:21.418 New DB connection, total: 4

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Tsagadai:

Updated programs: 0 Unchanged programs: 0

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Tsagadai:

Failed to fetch some program info

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Tsagadai:

sorry bout the spam

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RaYmAn-Bx:

considered doing that? =P

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Tsagadai:

it doesn't work

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Tsagadai:

mythfilldatabase doesn't accept --configure

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RaYmAn-Bx:

It's xmltv that's saying it

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Tsagadai:

so i have to run xmltv --configure?

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RaYmAn-Bx:

sounds like it..what does the installation guide say? :P

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RaYmAn-Bx:

ok, so it doesn't seem to actually say a whole lot =P

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Tsagadai:

its says very little about most of the problems ive come up against

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Tsagadai:

xmltv --configure isn't happening in bash..

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RaYmAn-Bx:

I suspect you need to run the specific grabber you want to use and pass that --configure

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Tsagadai:

ive already configured the grabber tv_grab_au

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Tsagadai:

it works, outputting xml tv listings

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RaYmAn-Bx:

where is this config file located? Presumably not at /root/.mythtv/aus.xmltv where it's looking :)

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Tsagadai:

"/usr/share/xmltv

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Tsagadai:

i really need to change mythfilldatabase but i can't even locate its source code and its options and helpfiles are poor at best

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unicorn___:

Hi all. I have a problem with mplayer stuttering when play audi video. Using gentoo 64. tried both 64bit and 32 binary. Any ideas?

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Beirdo:

morning, Juski :)

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Beirdo:

xpis: having issues?

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Beirdo:

!seen blahtest

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Beirdo:

!seen bendy24

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Beirdo:

Heya, Juski

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Juski:

hey hey Beirdo

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Juski:

just wasted some petrol on an excursion to find a cctv camera :-/

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Beirdo:

awww

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Beirdo:

I might be wasting some in a bit too

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Beirdo:

get an SATA RAID card

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Beirdo:

but I'll call to see if they have them

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Juski:

Maplin used to be really good – now their sales people – well lets just say if they had brains they'd be braindead

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Juski:

Beirdo – good plan. wish I'd done likewise now

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Juski:

!seen laga

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Beirdo:

still planning on recording the neighbourhood punks?

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Juski:

Beirdo: resistance is futile. I need a megapixel camera. wake up folks, PAL just doesn't cut it unless someone's face fills 1/3 of the frame

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

so true

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Beirdo:

unless you live in the magic world of CSI of course

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Juski:

and I now figure I'll need a 100W IR lamp

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Juski:

played back last night's recordings – even with decent illumination it'd be no use

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Beirdo:

use it to cook meat while you're at it

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Juski:

ha

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Juski:

anyway – can someone tell me since when did video coax cable come in AGP & PCI-E variants please?

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Juski:

;-)

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Beirdo:

hahaha, say WHAT?

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Juski:

that's what I said

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

and I still need to get the bot to log its replies to the db too

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Beirdo:

that can happen AFTER I go to my blasted doctor appt in 1.5h

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Juski:

Beirdo can I suggest something for the bot?

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Beirdo:

sure

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Juski:

doctor's appointment on a saturday? lucky!

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Beirdo:

you can even make a ticket at http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/beirdobot if ya want :)

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Juski:

I think be good to have something to point users in the direction of the logs & stuff

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Beirdo:

it will notify people when they join. When I first imported the old logs, I set everyone as being notified

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Beirdo:

as otherwise it woulda sent out 180 notifies when it started

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Beirdo:

if it hasn't notified in 24h, it will send one when you join

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Juski:

ahhh I see

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Beirdo:

also planning on putting a "notify" command

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jnunez:

If I cancel transcoding will it start back where it stopped or will it start over?

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Beirdo:

or "notice"

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Beirdo:

which will say the notify string

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Beirdo:

that's also for later today :)

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Kel-kippin:

morning all

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Beirdo:

jnunez, I think it will start over

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Juski:

morning kelerion

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Juski:

ahem...

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Beirdo:

the last person (in the channel) to be notified was Gnea

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jnunez:

Thanks Beirdo I should cancel anyway. It's a 933MHz CPU and I was trying MPG4

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Beirdo:

jnunez, that could be a bit slow :)

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Kelerion:

Juski, did you see my msg last night that I'd got zone-minder working?

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Juski:

yeh I did

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jnunez:

Yeah. it's on 5 hours for a 30 minutes episode of Oprah that my wife wants to save

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Kelerion:

the live-cd makes it a breeze

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Juski:

I realised today that any cctv setup I can afford is useless for what I want to do

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Beirdo:

jnunez, use it as an excuse to buy a new machine :)

[14:05:22]

Kelerion:

you know a *really* simple and easy way to do it? webcam

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jnunez:

I'll try MythTVHelper on my son's Windows PC (2.8GHz)

[14:05:39]

Juski:

Kelerion: I'd need a megapixel camera or something

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Kelerion:

you can get megapixel webcams

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jnunez:

Beirdo: She doesn't see it that way. It's more like... It works and leave it alone

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Juski:

I know, but you seen the price of them?!

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Beirdo:

women :)

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jnunez:

LOL!

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Juski:

I could petition the local council to put in daylight floodlights... that'd make it better

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Beirdo:

and you think you'd get any sleep after that, Juski?

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Kelerion:

Juski, http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.as . . . uctID=327683

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jnunez:

There is a PC Expo this weekend. I am planning on getting a few parts to slowly build a new AMD64. Thinking about buying the Neo4 MB

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Kelerion:

thats a bad example because it's support under linux is crap.. but it is a 1.3megapixel webcam for 15 quid

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Beirdo:

I love my AMD64 boxes

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Juski:

Kelerion: interpolated 1280x1024

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Beirdo:

all using Gigabyte motherboards (one NForce4, two NForce3)

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Kelerion:

the picture quality is *excellent*

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Kelerion:

in fact it's better than my cctv in low-light

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jnunez:

Beirdo: Any issues with Myth? What Distro?

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Juski:

we've got a 1.5 megapixel networked camera in our dept.. proper breadboard jobby.. nuts & bolts, but picture quality is amazing

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Beirdo:

I have my main PVR on a Sempron 2800 running FC1

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Beirdo:

my slave backend / devel box is AMD64 3200+, running ubuntu hoary

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Beirdo:

no issues

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Beirdo:

or is it a 3000+

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Beirdo:

I can't remember

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jnunez:

How's transcoding of a 30 minute show? I need to give this woman so examples LOL

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Beirdo:

dunno, I don't transcode in myth

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Beirdo:

I leave it all MPEG2

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Juski:

don't transcode – get bigger disks :-D

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rjune:

jnunez: transcoding depends a lot on your target format

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jnunez:

I have 200GB HD but my wife and daughter won't let me delete their old shows

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rjune:

you could always burn them to VCD

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Beirdo:

or DVD

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Beirdo:

VCD required transcoding for sure

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jnunez:

Example: I watch Taxi and delete the moment I see it. They watch SOAPs, OPRAH and DORA and I have tons of episodes.

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rjune:

Oprah?

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rjune:

ye gods man, you can't be spreading that around

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Beirdo:

so tell your wife... either she deletes stuff or you buy more disks

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Juski:

silly question – can I delete large swathes of recordings now in 0.19?

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jnunez:

That is my planned purchased this weekend is a DVD-R for this box

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Beirdo:

ah

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Beirdo:

a DVD-R is a good plan

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** rjune is grateful his wife would rather watch Stargate then oprah **

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Beirdo:

my plan is: LSI 6-channel SATA RAID card... 5 * 250G SATA drives (maybe 6)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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rjune:

that's a way to do it

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Beirdo:

setup a huge honkin RAID5, move my LVM over from the 4*200G IDE + 160G IDE

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Juski:

hot-swappable?

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Kelerion:

Juski, add them all to a playlist and delete playlist

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Beirdo:

no, not hot-swappable :(

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Juski:

aha... knew there'd be a way to do it

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Juski:

only snag is you've still got to add stuff to a playlist

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rjune:

why not hot swap?

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Kelerion:

yup.. but it's quicker (less remote pressed / keys)

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Beirdo:

Alloc PE / Size 45728 / 714.50 GB

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Beirdo:

Free PE / Size 8151 / 127.36 GB

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Beirdo:

moving 714.5G of data will take a LONG time

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Juski:

aye

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narf:

omg that's a lot of video

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Juski:

even at 50MB/sec

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Beirdo:

not all is video, got ISO images, etc too

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jnunez:

My wife is a big BSG fan but I can't get the PVR-150 IR Blaster to work. I have purchased the serial IR Blaster but need to configure it

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Juski:

which is realistically what you get from most IDE disks.. if you're lucky ;-)

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Beirdo:

400G of that is my video recordings dir

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Beirdo:

Timing buffered disk reads: 186 MB in 3.01 seconds = 61.79 MB/sec

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Juski:

Kelerion: seen as you're here I may aswell ask – are you going to lugradiolive ?

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Beirdo:

but even then... that will take a LONG time

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Kelerion:

yup

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narf:

that's about what I get actually

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Kelerion:

am planning on it anyways

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Beirdo:

but once I have RAID5, I don't have to worry about drive failure nearly as much

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Kelerion:

will depend on if I've got enough.. am planning on going on holiday at around that time too

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Juski:

Kelerion: as you know I'm 'doing the stand' at the show – I'm taking a system but it'd be better to have more – would it be remotely possible for you to cart one along?

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Kelerion:

sure.. no problems.. I'll bring my living room one along

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narf:

i'm still on my problem from last night, xvmc won't work using 7676 driver, myth .19 and a geforce 5200

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unicorn___:

Beirdo, how do you play back the ISO images on the fly, mplayer? or do u mount first

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Kelerion:

and of course I'll have my laptop too

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Beirdo:

nah, it's ISOs of Linux distros, Solaris, etc

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Juski:

I'll see if I can scrape a frontend together anyway.. I don't wanna bring my livingroom one

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Juski:

I think some mythtv CDs might be a good idea too, but god knows who'd fork out for that freebie

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narf:

mplayer dvd:// -dvd-device something.iso aught to do it

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unicorn___:

is any 1 using vlc for DVD playing?

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Kelerion:

Juski, you mean knoppmyth cd's?

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Beirdo:

bring some Ubuntu CDs too (they're free after all)

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Kelerion:

got tons off those.. lol

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Beirdo:

perfect time to spread em around

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Kelerion:

I don't mind burning off a couple of hundred myth cd's (i'll cover cost of blanks) if I have an iso to burn

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unicorn___:

how do you integrate vlc in mythtv? it alsways opens in a different window

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Beirdo:

stupid store doesn't HAVE 5 250G SATA Seagates

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Beirdo:

argh

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Kelerion:

Beirdo, knowing the lugradio guys... they'd have tons of ubuntu disks there too.. they big fans...

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Beirdo:

good :)

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Kelerion:

spread the word!

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Beirdo:

and any other free distro CDs ya feel like bringing of course :)

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Beirdo:

too bad it's not in Canada or PR

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Kelerion:

blank cds are pennies now anyways

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Kelerion:

people flew from as far away as Aus for last lugradio :P

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Beirdo:

well, I'm gonna catch enough shit for making my server have RAID5

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** Kelerion chuckles **

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Beirdo:

getting married in a few months, not wasting money flying unnecessary places

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Kelerion:

ahhh.. congrats :)

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Juski:

Kelerion: yeh I was thinking about knoppmyth but I'm not their biggest advocate

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Beirdo:

thanks :)

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Kelerion:

might as well get into the practice of being under the thumb ahead of the big event :)

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Beirdo:

Hmmm, I don't WANT WD drives!

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Juski:

Beirdo – can't be long til the big day now

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Beirdo:

May 20

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Kelerion:

I've only install knopp once.. just couldn't get into it

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Beirdo:

Hmm

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Beirdo:

maybe I'll be "good"

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Beirdo:

buy a 4-port Adaptec RAID card

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Beirdo:

and 4 drives

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Cromz:

Beirdo getting married.. omg the poor girl.. j/k :) gratz.

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

thanks

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Beirdo:

I guess 4 300G drives will do

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Beirdo:

what's this bullshit?

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Beirdo:

0 in stock at the store I want to go to?

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Beirdo:

but 10 in stock for online!?

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Beirdo:

assmasters

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Cromz:

I got 6 wd's in my raid. out of the inital set.. only 1 was bad. good thing it's a raid 5. lol

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Cromz:

6 by 200 gig.

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Beirdo:

I'm looking at doing 4 * 250G Seagate

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Beirdo:

or 4 * 300G Seagate

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jerky_2:

yeah check out the seagates with the 5 year warranty

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jerky_2:

i assume you are doing HD if you need that much space

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Beirdo:

or I could play the lottery and buy Crapstor

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Beirdo:

no

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Beirdo:

it's my fileserver

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UBL:

you guys using software raid? can you do raid with out /boot on a seperate partition/drive ?

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Beirdo:

I have tons of stuff on there

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jerky_2:

oh cool

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Beirdo:

right now I LVM onto the disks, I want to LVM onto RAID5

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jerky_2:

i have 500 GB in my fileserver with various music, movies, and divx tv shows

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Beirdo:

UBL: no thanks, no software RAID

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jerky_2:

then i have a 200 GB 2 disk LVM for my HD Myth box

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Beirdo:

I use software RAID1, but not RAID5, no thanks

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Beirdo:

the pvmove will take frigging forever once I get the stuff and set it up ;)_

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Cromz:

0.30/Data 961462272 801210368 160251904 84% /Data my 3ware with the 6 by 200gig wd's. raid5.

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Beirdo:

nice

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Beirdo:

I'd love to have a 3ware, but I don't wanna pay for it

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Beirdo:

heh

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jerky_2:

yeah it helps a whole lot if you get your array set up BEFORE you put data on it

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jerky_2:

i did those in the reverse order and ended up losing all of my recordings

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Beirdo:

well, I'll setup the array, add it to the LVM

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Cromz:

I plan on getting newer drives.. like 400 giggers. but I'll wait.

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jerky_2:

but that's ok because it fills up in like 5 days anyway

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Beirdo:

transfer all the stuff over inside the LVM

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Beirdo:

then remove the 4*200G IDE :)

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Beirdo:

built me a kernel last night with both megaraid2 and aacraid

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Beirdo:

so I can decide today which card to get

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UBL:

hehe

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Beirdo:

and once the 4 200G drives are out, the 2 promise cards can come out too

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Beirdo:

and the 120G might get swapped for an 80G.

[14:40:28]

Beirdo:

hmm, I thought it was a 160

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

ST3120026A

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Beirdo:

that's definitely 120

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Cardoe:

Chutt: my connection problems arise from some damn script kiddies that figured out some malformed packet to send to anyone that has a netgear router and it resets their connection or something

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Cardoe:

Fee Fie Foe Fum, I hate script kiddies

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Beirdo:

nice

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** Beirdo is glad his openbsd firewall ain't Netgear **

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Beirdo:

OK, time to get dressed and start heading to the doctor's office (like a block away)

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Beirdo:

stupid post-bloodwork nonsense

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znoG:

guys, nuvexport fails to run (waits endlessly for a fifo to be created) when I use cutlists. I ran nuvexport using --debug and ran the commands manually, and it seems to work if I do it manually?

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narf:

what resolutions is everyone using with nvidia drivers and XvMC?

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Hoxzer_:

how does mythnews work?

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Hoxzer:

how does mythnews work?

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Juski:

narf: I used to use 800x600 or 720x576

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Juski:

but now I don't use nvidia on my frontend

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narf:

ah i think i found the problem: the nvidia driver didn't install correctly and I have an "API mismatch"

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znoG:

[mpeg4 @ 0x11602c4]Error at MB: 578

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znoG:

[mpeg4 @ 0x11602c4]concealing 389 DC, 389 AC, 389 MV errors

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znoG:

[mpeg4 @ 0x11602c4]Error at MB: 439

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znoG:

[mpeg4 @ 0x11602c4]concealing 524 DC, 524 AC, 524 MV errors

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znoG:

ouch

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znoG:

nuvexport before failed even before starting, now if I do it manually it starts but fails later on

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narf:

ok so what do I do if reinstalling the driver doesn't remove the "API mismatch" http://webcreations.homelinux.com/paste.txt

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narf:

it seems like it didn't actually remove the driver

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narf:

Gentoo btw

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nasa:

Does anyone know why recorded shows list on mythweb, but not within mythtv? I look for the recorded programs on my tv, but only find the 1st one — none of the rest (and that includes "all programs")

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Captain_Murdoch:

change your recording group/filter using the popup 'MENU' (usually the M key)

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nasa:

Will try that, thanks Captain_Murdoch.

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Juski:

nasa: I've read about people having problems when they install mythtv with one set of nvidia drivers/libs – then they change drivers & have an xvmc mismatch – solution is (apparently) to rebuild mythtv. Though in _theory_ you shouldn't have to

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nasa:

Juski: thanks for the input — although, it was me being stupid. Captain_Murdoch was right on the mark.

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** nasa remembers basic rule of troubleshooting — check the idiot behind the keyboard first **

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jnunez:

What are a few good places to purchase hardware online? I use NewEgg and ZipZoomFly

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haffe:

Hmmm, wonder if this will work. Mythtv on a PIII 450.

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rjune:

nasa: y'all haven't done a very good job of that lately, you've lost how many mars landers and shuttles lately?

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jnunez:

haffe it might work if you have a hardware tuner

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jnunez:

I have a PIII 933 and it works like a dream for recording and playback. I also play old games on it

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nasa:

later

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narf:

does anyone use Gentoo and nvidia?

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haffe:

I have.

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narf:

haffe: are you using XvMC for playback?

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haffe:

narf: Nope.

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narf:

haffe: hmm ok

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haffe:

I didn't use mythtv when I used gentoo.

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narf:

haffe: XvMC doesn't want to work and I can't play hdtv even with an athlon64 3000

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mikehull:

narf: what video card do you have?

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mikehull:

it worked great with my geforce 4

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mikehull:

i've got a hardware divx encoder now, so i don't use it, but i used to

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mikehull:

i had no problems at all

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mikehull:

USE="nvidia" emerge mythtv

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mikehull:

worked just fine

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mikehull:

i was using the latest stable nvidia kernel module

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haffe:

Would a celeronD suffice in a mythtvmachine?

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jerky_2:

narf, an athlon 64 3000 should be able to play HDTV, especially 720p

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jerky_2:

my p4 3.0 can play 1080i HDTV at about 95% CPU use

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Juski:

haffe: for SDTV, probably. not for HDTV though

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Juski:

jerky_2: ATI video card huh?

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jerky_2:

my p4 2.2 required XvMC to play HDTV, which brought the CPU use down to 50–60% , but the audio stutters sometimes

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Juski:

oops

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jerky_2:

nah, the p4 3.0 is a windows gaming machine, but it can play 1080i HDTV recordings via the network

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jerky_2:

XvMC is nice, but i'm stuck with either interlacing problems, or if i turn on BOB deinterlacing, the audio is crackly

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jerky_2:

still haven't figured that one out yet

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jerky_2:

but i got my LVM issues resolved, so it has been a good weekend

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mikehull:

my 2.0ghz used to play mpeg4 with 20% cpu usage but now that i'm using a hardware encoder its at 98%

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dtm:

mikehull: ya mean 98% idle?

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mikehull:

no

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mikehull:

i mean 98% usage

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mikehull:

the decoder

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mikehull:

frontend

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mikehull:

backend is like 0.5%

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mikehull:

i got the plextor usb mpeg4 encoder

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mikehull:

i havn't played with the bitrate and stuff

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mikehull:

my guess is my bitrate is to high

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mikehull:

does anyone know if myth uses the mpeg4 or divx to encode on the plextor?

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Juski:

mikehull: dvix is mpeg4-based

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jerky_2:

so you're taking MPEG-2 transfer streams, and encoding them to mpeg4? then watching them?

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mikehull:

Juski: i know, but a divx encoded file can encode much more data in a smaller file than a spec mpeg4 codec

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mikehull:

i'm just encoding video capture to mpeg4

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mikehull:

i used to use firewire

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mikehull:

but half the channels quit working

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mikehull:

either they're encrypted or my firewire hardware sucks

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mikehull:

and now with the latest kernel i have problems with changing the channel via 6200ch

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narf:

ok, so why does the latest nvidia driver (8178) work, but jerkily, but the 7676 driver gives me a "Could not open XvMC port..." error

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narf:

mythfrontend output: http://webcreations.homelinux.com/paste.txt

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narf:

anyone else seeing this?

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Juski:

narf: there's a bug in the latest nvidia driver which means that it eats CPU cycles when used with opengl vsync – you can try turning off opengl sync with nvidia-settings

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narf:

it's off

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narf:

doesn't seem to make a difference

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narf:

did it work for you?

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nosun:

um when it comes to capture cards/tv tuners does it make a difference in age?

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nosun:

I have 2 oldies Zoltrix TV Max and Grabit Extreme

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narf:

wow never heard of them

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narf:

as long as video4linux supports them they should work

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nosun:

they both stopped production but are based on BT434

[18:06:06]

nosun:

or whatever

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nosun:

:P

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nosun:

give sec

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nosun:

also got a MSI TV@nywhere but its not compat... I don't think

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nosun:

not based on the bt chips:P

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nosun:

the Zoltrix is from 95 era...

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nosun:

and the grabit is 95–98

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nosun:

somewhere inbetween:P

[18:08:11]

nosun:

I remember seeing em when futureshop originally open in Canada(bestbuy canadian edition)

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narf:

it appears that the Zoltrix is supported http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cardlist.BTTV

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nosun:

what I'm asking though... is should there be a difference in say picture quality?

[18:09:01]

nosun:

or something

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narf:

that depends on whether the chip was improved in that time period, which I would say is likely

[18:10:17]

nosun:

The grabbit is basically same card... just has fm tuner;)

[18:10:48]

nosun:

I'll try em out

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nosun:

so to start off I will have to look into video4linux

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nosun:

:P

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nosun:

I suppose

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narf:

yes

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nosun:

thanx

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nosun:

I'll save the MSI incase I end up taking windows route:P

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narf:

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nosun:

works fine on windows.... I found it would lag out my computer after a hour of recording or so though;)

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nosun:

lol thats a great windows jk;)

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Kelerion:

ok – thats zoneminder all configured.. it's now *only* recording when someone walks past the house.. and not when a car drives past :)

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Juski:

heheh. I've taken my chocolate fireguard down

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xris:

Kelerion: I just set up motion the other day. so much simpler than ZM....

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dtm:

Juski: the what?

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Juski:

dtm: the cctv system that's as much use as a chocolate fireguard for protecting my car

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Juski:

I need a house with a driveway & a garage

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dtm:

Juski: why'd you take it down

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Kelerion:

xris, I thought so too.. this is the second time... but I installed the livecd of it last night and it was just a case of telling it which input on the capture card to use

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dtm:

Juski: is it somehow worse than useless?

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Juski:

dtm: the distance the camera is away from it, coupled with the fact it's only a PAL camera makes it pretty pointless

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dtm:

Juski: i'd think that it'd work if you advertised clearly that it's there.

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dtm:

Juski: its presence should be a deterrant

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Juski:

but pointing into the street raises privacy issues

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Kelerion:

presuming of course the culprit actually cares and thinks they'll get caught.. which a lot of kids don't

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Juski:

and you don't know UK kids – something like that is like a red rag to a bull

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xris:

Kelerion: that's cool. I kept getting dependency issues... not having a good rpm of it wasn't helpful.

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xris:

motion was a piece of cake to install.. Not that it watches much more than me getting things out of my garage...

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Juski:

pity you can't get those diddy little cameras with zoom lenses though

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narf:

does nvidia-setting segfault on amd64 always or something?

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Kelerion:

the livecd makes it easy.. and then it has an "installer" which installs a fully configured linux setup (mandrake) with it all installed

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narf:

nvidia-settings*

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Kelerion:

well.. I'm fairly impressed... at least I didn't have to mess with ffmpeg like the last time I tried this

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drdaz:

Anybody that had these "Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page" errors? I had understood that it was an alsa issue with .15, but... having just run yum update it seems the errors have stopped Oo

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drdaz:

alsa wasnt updated ;)

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astate:

what mysql database works best with 0.18.1-r2? mysql 5.x.x doesn't work at all, right?

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Juski:

argghh! another fsckin unscheduled reboot

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Juski:

think it might be almost time to reinstall

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Kelerion:

which machine?

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Juski:

not linux

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Juski:

trying to render a video in vegas

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Juski:

have to track down the registry setting .. DWORD-RandomRebootFrequency

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drdaz:

lol

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Juski:

maybe my CPU is getting too hot

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** Kelerion chuckles **

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xpis:

Juski: I think the problem lays kernel32.dll. Perhaps you should consider upgrading it.

[18:51:47]

xpis:

Juski: High quality replacements are available without charge at kernel.org.

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xpis:

The reboots are probably caused by a hardware failure or a bad/corrupted driver. Unfortunately, the source code usually isn't distributed with said kernel.

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Octane:

anyone here know how to make the mythtv (master) volume control all volume?

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Beirdo:

f'ing computer stores

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Octane:

Beirdo which one

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Beirdo:

my 4-port RAID card (OEM) came with 2 cables

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Beirdo:

thanks

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Beirdo:

this time: Canada Computers

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Beirdo:

so now I get to go back onto the streetcar for 20min to go buy 2 SATA cables.

[19:02:42]

Beirdo:

what a waste of time

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Beirdo:

got the RAID controller, 4 * 300G drives

[19:03:30]

Beirdo:

but nooo, I don't have enough cables

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** Beirdo mumbles **

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bmk789:

ouch

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Beirdo:

so I'm gonna go grab a book to read on the way there and back... all for $10 in cables.

[19:04:30]

Beirdo:

if that

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bmk789:

sata right?

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Beirdo:

yeah

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Chutt:

my last motherboard came with 8 sata cables

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Chutt:

i'm using.. 1

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Beirdo:

mine came with one each, it seems

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Beirdo:

I thought they came with 2, but if so, then 3 are mysteriously missing

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bmk789:

my MB came with 8

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Beirdo:

nice

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Beirdo:

my fileserver's getting a lobotomy soon

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Beirdo:

gonna have LVM on RAID5... then it will get ubuntu to replace FC1

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Beirdo:

Athlon XP 2200+

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Beirdo:

old beast

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Beirdo:

anyways, gotta get off the couch and go buy some lousy cables.

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xris:

enjoy

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TarasBulba_:

hi, I have a universal lnb, however the lnb settings do not allow me choose it. I can only choose "single LNB" from the settings... because of this, I can get watch channels from mplayer, however not mythtv (instead a blank screen).

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TarasBulba_:

how can I fix it?

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jerky_2:

anyone know how to remap the buttons in FCEU for linux?

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nosun:

on myth tv can I watch avi's/mpg's off a samba share?

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GreyFoxx:

sure

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dtm:

nosun: smb is a network filesystem, so mythtv and every other app are entirely unaware of it

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GreyFoxx:

just mount the sahre and configure mythvideo to point to where you mounted it

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drdaz:

mythvideo can only point to one directory right?

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GreyFoxx:

yes,,m just mount the share(or shares) under it

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nosun:

what I'm asking is when I had fedora..... I found that if I tried playing a mp3 off a network share..... it wouldn't play it

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nosun:

had to copy it to the computer

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nosun:

then it would play

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nosun:

yet in windows I could run it strait off:P

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nosun:

does it have that issue or no clue:P

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GreyFoxx:

you just didnt have fedora setup correctly

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GreyFoxx:

myth wont care

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GreyFoxx:

but you will have to mount the share

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nosun:

thanx

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nosun:

well we'll see

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nosun:

also considering trying out myth on freebsd:P

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nosun:

since I like bsd

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nosun:

:D

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nosun:

but that I'll see after

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Juski:

hiya GreyFoxx. how's the msntv project going?

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GreyFoxx:

just got the caps I needed, about to start the adapter so I can flash the bios

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Juski:

heh. so a fully working frontend by this tomorrow, then. good stuff ;-)

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GreyFoxx:

:) here's hoping :)

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Juski:

well here goes another rendering attempt....

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jerky_2:

nosun, out of the box, fedora's smb support is weird... you double click a shared file and it copies and plays

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jerky_2:

but if you smbmount the directory, then all is well

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jerky_2:

i do what you're talking about all the time, i have a /video directory which has /recordings natively on that hard drive, but /movies mounted in from an smbmount

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flithm:

hey everyone... just curious if there's a fix for the 0.19 live tv end of show issue yet?

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drdaz:

flithm: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.20#Fixes

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flithm:

cool good news... so I should compile from CVS then eh?

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flithm:

or will a new release be along soon?

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** drdaz shrugs **

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** flithm nods **

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drdaz:

:)

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flithm:

gotcha :)

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drdaz:

I havent had the issue myself

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flithm:

lucky :)

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drdaz:

heh yeah... that said just today starting live tv began hard locking my system under .14 oO

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drdaz:

running in .15 it doesnt happen

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flithm:

doh!

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drdaz:

very odd... I didnt change anything between when I went to sleep and when I got up

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flithm:

wait... 0.14? why you still using that?

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drdaz:

sry kernel 2.6.14

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drdaz:

:)

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flithm:

ohhh I gotcha

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flithm:

that is weird!

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drdaz:

totally

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drdaz:

flithm: apparently the fix is in 0.19.1

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drdaz:

I'd think the atrpms binaries are following that branch

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drdaz:

although if you arent running fedora, that's not much use to you :p

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Octane:

anyone know how to make myth control ALL volumes? master and pcm?

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drdaz:

Ocatane: IIRC you can only do one or the other

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drdaz:

could be wrong on that tho..

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flithm:

Octane, I dunno how to make myth do it, but if you're looking for a good way to have your remote do it try http://gizmod.sf.net... it can do any number of mixers, and has a groovy on screen volume display (like an actual TV)

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flithm:

Octane, plus it'll do app specific remote key mapping... so you can map different keys for mplayer, mythfrontend, etc

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Octane:

flithm thanks man, you use this w/ lirc?

[20:50:30]

flithm:

Octane, yep sure do.

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flithm:

I have an RF remote that I use it with too. (I'm the program's author) :).

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flithm:

can't blame me for plugging it :). It really does work great too. Another problem I had with my hauppauge lirc based setup was the buttons were a little touchy. gizmod'll fix that too if you find that as well.

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woodwizzle:

I'm having troubles

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** drdaz goes to gizmod.sf.net **

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woodwizzle:

i can mplayer /dev/video

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woodwizzle:

and it works

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woodwizzle:

but if i select watchtv in mythtv

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woodwizzle:

it says all the tuners are busy recording

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Octane:

thanks flithm

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woodwizzle:

but I don't have anything scheduled to record

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flithm:

Octane, no probs :)

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drdaz:

woodwizzle: is this a new install?

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flithm:

woodwizzle, have you set up the capture cards in the setup program?

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woodwizzle:

its a relatively new install. I've just now setup the tv card

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woodwizzle:

and yes I ran mythtv-setup. Setup my card, my input and connected them

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drdaz:

so u havent had TV working yet.. thats what I'm getting at

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drdaz:

it didnt just break

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woodwizzle:

correct

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drdaz:

hmm..

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drdaz:

it should be working if you have them configured right in mythtv-setup

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woodwizzle:

maybe i'm missing somethin, but i'm pretty sure i did it correctly.

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drdaz:

give it another whirl...

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drdaz:

just don't clear all your settings :)

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woodwizzle:

i should probably point out I'm using a pcr-250.

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woodwizzle:

pvr-250

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flithm:

woodwizzle: remember you have to give the tuner a programming source too, not just set up the tuner card

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drdaz:

sure... you've got ivtv installed and working too you claim

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drdaz:

since you can get video out of /dev/video

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woodwizzle:

yup, I've setup my tuner card to use tuner0 and /dev/vide0. I set up my data direct cable source and ran mythfilldatabase

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woodwizzle:

and I connected my cable source to tuner0

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woodwizzle:

I don't know what else I could be missing

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woodwizzle:

and yeah mplayer /dev/video0 plays video so ivtv should be running fine as well

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drdaz:

in my Input Connections screen I have /dev/video0 (Tuner) --> [Cable Source]

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drdaz:

thats presumably what u have

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woodwizzle:

i believe so... lemme double check (in the living room)

[21:05:54]

woodwizzle:

yeah thats exactly what i have

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drdaz:

VNC is your friend for these things.. although its been slowly getting more useless with myth since the .19 release :(

[21:06:02]

drdaz:

hmm ok

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flithm:

woodwizzle, have you verified that mythfrontend is setup properly and connecting to the backend okay?

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flithm:

try information center, backend status

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drdaz:

it must be if he's being told it's recording..

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flithm:

oh

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flithm:

yeah I guess so eh

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flithm:

I thought it just said no inputs were avail for recording

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flithm:

nope I was wrong

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flithm:

i just scrolled back

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drdaz:

well I think if I start the frontend without the backend running... I get told :)

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flithm:

that's pretty wacky

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drdaz:

I'd suggest checking /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log, but..

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drdaz:

mine seems not to be getting touched atm

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drdaz:

might be worth looking anyhow

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flithm:

woodwizzle, what does the status say anyway? if it's busy recording maybe it actually is :).

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drdaz:

heh good point

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woodwizzle:

hmmm, looks like maybe my backend crashed

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drdaz:

u got root access?

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woodwizzle:

lemme restart it and see if that fixes it

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drdaz:

dude

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drdaz:

try starting it as a process and you'll get output in the terminal about what its doing

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xris:

w00t. channel logs will soon be searchable.

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flithm:

yeah that's a good idea

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drdaz:

as in... don't start it as a background service

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drdaz:

if it is recording something it'll tell u I think

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DarkDrgn2k:

a 20 gig FAT32 partition.. what type of partition is it?

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DarkDrgn2k:

in fdish

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DarkDrgn2k:

k

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flithm:

whoa

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DarkDrgn2k:

?

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flithm:

sorry just kinda came outta no where... lemme check :)

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DarkDrgn2k:

lol

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DarkDrgn2k:

i tried win96 fat 32 lba

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DarkDrgn2k:

but it says its to big to mkfs.vfat LOL

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DarkDrgn2k:

b

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flithm:

hmm... I had that problem on a redhat based system once (centos) and I had to upgrade the dos utils package to fix it... what version is your mkfs.vfat?

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DarkDrgn2k:

sept 2003

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DarkDrgn2k:

LoL

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DarkDrgn2k:

says

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DarkDrgn2k:

"Attempting to create to large file system"

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drdaz:

you need to specify the size of the FAT according to man mkfs.vfat

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drdaz:

so you need to tell it to use 32 bits

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DarkDrgn2k:

aaaaa

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drdaz:

-F 32 I'd guess

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flithm:

yeah I upgraded to mar 2005... maybe your problem is different though

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DarkDrgn2k:

there we go

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DarkDrgn2k:

LMAO

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drdaz:

:p

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DarkDrgn2k:

learn somethign new every day

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flithm:

haha

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DarkDrgn2k:

drdaz: thankx dudw

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DarkDrgn2k:

dud

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drdaz:

np

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DarkDrgn2k:

i hate resorting to FAT though :-S

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DarkDrgn2k:

is there a way i can force the unmounting of a drive?

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drdaz:

it has to be done sometimes tho :-/

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DarkDrgn2k:

(dang winblows)

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drdaz:

how do u mean?

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drdaz:

is there a drive that doesnt want to umount?

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DarkDrgn2k:

drdaz: i want to (and i KNOW THIS IS BAD IN PRINCIPAL) make an ide drive hot swapable. so im gonna trow it in a removable bay

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DarkDrgn2k:

drdaz: ive seen that sometimes if an app is using that drive it wont wanan unmount

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woodwizzle:

yup the backend was the problem

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DarkDrgn2k:

is there a way to force it

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woodwizzle:

all better now but .....

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woodwizzle:

now it says that /dev/mixer isn't a mixer and I get no sound

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dtm:

DarkDrgn2k: are you nuts?

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woodwizzle:

mythmusic works though

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: liek i said.. BAD in principal

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dtm:

i'll just say what we all must be thinking. :)

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: i really dont care about the drive or the data on it LOL

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dtm:

DarkDrgn2k: a lot more than principal.

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: umm core foundation of what IDE stands for?

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: JUST DAM WRONG?

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dtm:

DarkDrgn2k: what?

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: lol question is CAN It be done?

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dtm:

DarkDrgn2k: that's like asking if i CAN hit you in the head and take your candy

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drdaz:

woodwizzle: not sure whats going on there... you're getting sound from mythmusic?

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dtm:

DarkDrgn2k: you need USB or firewire

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dtm:

DarkDrgn2k: or a grip on common sense and patience

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: the answer is YES you CAN...

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dtm:

either one will do

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: but HOW?

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: lol but i dont WANT to spend money!

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DarkDrgn2k:

lo

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DarkDrgn2k:

l

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dtm:

DarkDrgn2k: you will once you destroy your drive anyway. wtf are you thinking?

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: i dotn care about the drive ro the data on it?

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dtm:

i guess destroying your drive in itself is free.

[21:24:16]

DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: its making noises

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dtm:

so have fun.

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DarkDrgn2k:

dtm: out of warently and only 20 gigs

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drdaz:

heh u trying to kill it proper?

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dtm:

drive and/or IDE controller etc

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DarkDrgn2k:

it wouldnt kill the ide controler!

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narf:

would anyone happen to know what nvidia driver version knoppmyth uses as default?

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topping:

http://www.cheapstingybargains.com/cheapster/ . . . c_pj400.html

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disavowed:

has anyone here had compile problems, failing on ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.19.so: undefined reference to `vbi_bit_reverse'

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bio_:

hopefully goint to compile in a few minutes, but didnt have problems compiling yesterday on my notebook

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bio_:

# Sound Output Support

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bio_:

OSS support yes

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bio_:

ALSA support no

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bio_:

wondering about that

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bio_:

dont have oss support compiled into the kernel but have alsa instead

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Delemas:

sounds like the wrong --configure options then...

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bio_:

yeah, but under configure options i only find options for disabling sound systemes

[21:53:37]

Delemas:

missing alsa development files perhaps?

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bio_:

yeah, you were right

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bio_:

fixed that. thank you :)

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phishman:

hello, any here that can help?

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Juski:

help with what?

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phishman:

when I start the mythTv frontend; all I get is the backgrounf (grayish background).

[21:58:03]

Juski:

help you raise money for a caribbean holiday? nah

[21:58:08]

phishman:

ha

[21:58:29]

phishman:

X is running at 99% all the tie

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Juski:

phishman – try mythfrontend --verbose all & see what pops out

[21:59:04]

Juski:

btw phishman I hope you're not a miner 419'er ;-)

[21:59:15]

Niklas_E:

anyoen know how to fix ifthe mythtv starts playing the tv att the right speed and then suddenly starts going in half the speed (about) and no sound is there anytime

[21:59:35]

phishman:

btw... mythtv-setup worked fine

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Niklas_E:

the drivers works (works with tvtime and mplayer)

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jonk:

hello anyone around?

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jonk:

anyone at all

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Servo888:

Hey all

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Juski:

hey Servo888

[22:03:03]

jonk:

no one seems to be talking

[22:03:09]

Servo888:

Okie dokie. just upgraded to .19

[22:03:11]

phishman:

Juski – everything looks fine.. I just get a bunch of mysql statements

[22:03:12]

Juski:

jonk – just ask a question man

[22:03:19]

Niklas_E:

hi

[22:03:23]

jonk:

yes, why be friendly

[22:03:42]

jonk:

anyone think of a reason why a nvidia tv out would just die?

[22:03:54]

RaYmAn-Bx:

if everyone was friendly every time they joint, the channel would be full of that =P

[22:04:00]

Servo888:

looks good so far. Here's my issue... on a recording, I hit the edit key, to edit the commerial flags. Then I hit x to encode it... But nothing's happening.

[22:04:00]

phishman:

jonk – what do you mean die?

[22:04:00]

jonk:

was fully working before i left town on wednesday

[22:04:04]

Juski:

yep – a buggy driver or an unexpected change in your xorg.conf

[22:04:12]

jonk:

but nothing has changed

[22:04:23]

jonk:

came back last night and nothing

[22:04:24]

Juski:

cable fell out?

[22:04:34]

drdaz:

dog pissed on your rig?

[22:04:55]

jonk:

i have two cats, although they are still under suspicion

[22:04:58]

jonk:

at this time, nothing

[22:05:11]

drdaz:

dont trust them

[22:05:23]

Servo888:

hmm looks like it errors with "Status: Errored(videobox)"

[22:05:28]

jonk:

if i use the dvi out and a monitor it works, but the svideo out

[22:05:30]

jonk:

dead...

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drdaz:

you checked xorg logs?

[22:05:59]

jonk:

i am not even sure what to try to diagnose it

[22:06:03]

narf:

check dmesg too

[22:06:18]

jonk:

hang on... i'll ssh to that box and see if anyting's up

[22:06:35]

jonk:

except it's not on.... will need to boot

[22:06:45]

drdaz:

there's your problem

[22:06:47]

drdaz:

:p

[22:07:27]

xris:

w00t. searchable channel logs.

[22:07:40]

phishman:

Juski – Here is my output http://68.45.213.105/FILES/output

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phishman:

I dont see anything crazy

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kormoc:

Mornin' guys. Anyone a lirc expert?

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jonk:

kormoc, what you got

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kormoc:

Welp, I have lirc running fine, irw reads the buttons fine, and I have a ~/.lircrc and a ~/.mythtv/lircrc file, but it doesn't seem to actually send the events

[22:09:38]

jonk:

stupid question, you compiled with lirc support?

[22:09:42]

kormoc:

yuppies

[22:09:55]

jonk:

anything in the lirc log?

[22:10:03]

Juski:

phishman – so far so good – next, post what happens when you start livetv

[22:10:24]

kormoc:

jonk, where would that be?

[22:10:35]

phishman:

I can't get there; right now I just have the background of G.A.N.T.

[22:10:43]

phishman:

no icons whatsoever

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drdaz:

I was just wondering.. is anybody working on an official plugin that does what mythstream does?

[22:10:55]

jonk:

mine is in ./var/log/lircd

[22:11:44]

kormoc:

yeah, I don't have one, let me see if it's a option somewhere

[22:13:07]

kormoc:

ahh, mine seems to just be in /var/log/messages

[22:13:26]

jonk:

dmesg tells me that the module is loading just fine

[22:13:33]

jonk:

for nvidia

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kormoc:

in any case, it looks good, found the device, says it's ready and accepts the client on /dev/lircd

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phishman:

Juski – I can't get there; right now I just have the background of G.A.N.T. I am using 0.19; I am thinking about going to svn version

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jonk:

is it possible that the svideo out is just dead and i need a new card?

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kormoc:

jonk, what's the issue?

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jonk:

frontend died

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drdaz:

jonk check the xorg logfile too

[22:15:16]

kormoc:

http://pastebin.ca/44494 is my lirc log

[22:15:18]

phishman:

jonk – I accidently bent an svideo pin once and that killed my video output

[22:15:19]

jonk:

looking at this now

[22:15:31]

jonk:

box runs fine, just the svid out

[22:15:41]

ru080:

hi

[22:15:41]

jonk:

dvi on same card works when using with monitor

[22:15:48]

jonk:

but this box is specifically for the television

[22:15:55]

kormoc:

jonk, then yeah the xorg log file is gonna be where to look

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ru080:

I get the error "GuideGrid: You don't have any channels defined in the database. Guide grid will have nothing to show you."

[22:16:02]

kormoc:

jonk, if you want to pastebin it, I can take a gander at it

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kormoc:

ru080, did you run mythfilldatabase?

[22:16:35]

ru080:

yes, and y have chanels in mythtv-setup

[22:17:01]

jonk:

nothing clearly a "this just borked" entry

[22:17:18]

kormoc:

jonk, you could put up your xorg.conf file as well if you want

[22:17:39]

ru080:

kormoc: i use: mythfilldatabase --file 1 o tvguide.xml

[22:17:47]

jonk:

i'd be happy to, but remember this was a working system when i left 2 days ago

[22:17:56]

drdaz:

we havent forgot

[22:18:04]

ru080:

and i see my database and y have de channels

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drdaz:

it just might give a clue as to what is going on

[22:18:10]

jonk:

wait... maybe something here

[22:18:12]

kormoc:

jonk, I've had a issue with nvidia's drivers detecting things differently if they are not explicitly set at times

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Beirdo:

OK

[22:19:42]

Beirdo:

moving data from my LVM onto the RAID5 (which is now in the LVM)

[22:19:47]

Beirdo:

this should take some time.

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phishman:

anyone have an ideas?

[22:21:01]

drdaz:

phishman: what does the output of mythfrontend say

[22:21:03]

jonk:

ok xorg.log at pastebin.ca/44495

[22:21:12]

Beirdo:

I have lots of ideas, but few are printable

[22:21:19]

phishman:

http://68.45.213.105/FILES/output

[22:21:28]

phishman:

drdaz – http://68.45.213.105/FILES/output

[22:21:53]

jonk:

looks fine to me...

[22:22:07]

jonk:

yes, the dark mania that is...

[22:22:10]

jonk:

beirdo

[22:22:14]

Beirdo:

pvmove — /dev/hde1 [PE 243 [iso [LE 5048]]] -> /dev/sda1 [PE 243] [244/3771]

[22:22:19]

phishman:

drdaz – the screen is basically blank (just the background is showing, no icons) and X is at 99% constantly

[22:22:21]

Beirdo:

wheee, this will take a while

[22:22:53]

Beirdo:

got another 3 drives after that one

[22:22:54]

Beirdo:

hehe

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jonk:

i'm thinking about just buying a new card

[22:23:06]

kormoc:

jonk, what's your TVStandard nvidia option set to?

[22:23:19]

jonk:

where would i find such an option?

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Beirdo:

kormoc, I found a local source for PCI FX5500

[22:23:26]

Beirdo:

$81CDN

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kormoc:

in your xorg.conf under the video card section

[22:23:37]

kormoc:

Beirdo, that's not bad at all

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Beirdo:

that's what I thought :)

[22:24:03]

Beirdo:

but today was the day to go to RAID5

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jonk:

which section

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phishman:

i guess ill try svn version

[22:24:28]

kormoc:

jonk, the one for your videocard...

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jonk:

i see, ill just post it

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Servo888:

What do you use to output a recorded show to an mpeg?

[22:25:45]

kormoc:

Servo888, nuvexport

[22:25:55]

jonk:

pastebin.com/44497

[22:26:04]

jonk:

err pastebin.ca/4497

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kormoc:

"hat is an invalid ID, or the post has expired."

[22:26:41]

Servo888:

kormoc, and is there a way to speed up transcoding of mpeg files? I know there was something around before that could do it with out transcoding, but by just ripping out the commericals. Took little time

[22:26:41]

jonk:

let's leave my hat out of this

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kormoc:

there we go

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kormoc:

jonk, line 73

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kormoc:

jonk, might want to set that value

[22:27:29]

jonk:

ti what

[22:27:33]

jonk:

to what

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kormoc:

NTSC-M for north america

[22:27:53]

jonk:

but here's the thing, before, it would display the post message, show the kernel booting, long before any of the moduels were loaded

[22:28:03]

jonk:

now, nothing, just a blue screen

[22:28:03]

kormoc:

yeah?

[22:28:20]

** kormoc blinks **

[22:28:33]

kormoc:

did you hook up anything else to the card?

[22:29:00]

jonk:

well, i unhooked everything and moved teh machine to where i could plug a monitor into it

[22:29:02]

jonk:

that works fine

[22:29:08]

jonk:

moved it back to the tv and ...

[22:29:08]

jonk:

nothing

[22:29:14]

jonk:

other outputs on the card work

[22:29:24]

jonk:

but the svideo does not

[22:29:30]

kormoc:

jonk, might was t remove line 43, 128–130

[22:29:35]

woodwizzle:

whats the name of that script that downloads all the channel icons?

[22:29:54]

kormoc:

jonk, also, why line 71?

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mchou:

Beirdo: that's rather expensive, dont you think?

[22:30:21]

Beirdo:

what is?

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mchou:

Beirdo: fx5500

[22:30:35]

Beirdo:

no

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kormoc:

jonk, are you using a Frame Buffer X server?

[22:30:41]

Beirdo:

it's a PCI card

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Beirdo:

you find me a PCI fx5500 for much less than that :)

[22:30:54]

Beirdo:

heh

[22:31:00]

jonk:

probably not

[22:31:09]

Beirdo:

I'm interested for use with gputrans once I get moving on it

[22:31:16]

mchou:

Beirdo: you dont have an agp slot?

[22:31:16]

ru080:

I get the error "GuideGrid: You don't have any channels defined in the database. Guide grid will have nothing to show you." and I have channels in database and in mythtv-setup chanels and i have de progama of this channels

[22:31:26]

Beirdo:

you're missing the point, mchou

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mchou:

Beirdo: what's the point I'm missing?

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kormoc:

jonk, then remove lines 71 and 46

[22:31:51]

Beirdo:

I will be working on loading up a server with like 5 FX5500 for GPU power

[22:32:03]

Beirdo:

can't do that with AGP or PCI-E

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mchou:

Beirdo: what the hell for?

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kormoc:

mchou, the idea is to use those cards to transcode

[22:32:14]

Beirdo:

transcoding

[22:32:19]

mchou:

lol

[22:32:30]

Beirdo:

once I get time to start working on it

[22:32:32]

woodwizzle:

I believe I speak for all of us when I say jesus chrizzist

[22:32:40]

mchou:

Beirdo: you sure have a lot of money to burn

[22:32:46]

ru080:

select * from channel;

[22:32:47]

ru080:

+--------+---------+--------+----------+----------+--------------------+------+- ---------+--------------+------------------+-------------+----------+----------- -+--------+-------+----------+----------+---------+---------------+------------- --+---------+-----------+-----------+

[22:32:47]

ru080:

[22:32:49]

ru080:

+--------+---------+--------+----------+----------+--------------------+------+- ---------+--------------+------------------+-------------+----------+----------- -+--------+-------+----------+----------+---------+---------------+------------- --+---------+-----------+-----------+

[22:32:52]

ru080:

| 1 | 01 | 01 | 1 | TVE1 | tve1 | | 0 | | tve1 | 0 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | Default | 0 | 1 | | 0 | NULL | 0 | 0 |

[22:32:57]

ru080:

| 2 | 02 | 02 | 1 | LA2 | La2 | | 0 | | tve2 | 0 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | Default | 0 | 1 | | 0 | NULL | 0 | 0 |

[22:32:58]

mchou:

wtf!

[22:32:59]

kormoc:

oh joy

[22:33:01]

Beirdo:

ru080, use pastebin!

[22:33:06]

mchou:

stope the spam

[22:33:06]

ru080:

ok, sorry

[22:33:15]

jonk:

still noe of this explains why it went from working to not working

[22:33:20]

woodwizzle:

Beirdo, Are you recording every show on every channel or something?

[22:33:24]

Beirdo:

mchou, anyways, $80CDN is cheap for the GPU power

[22:33:26]

mchou:

Beirdo: I thought you were done w/toys

[22:33:49]

kormoc:

jonk, if the card boots up in a slightly different way, it might stop detecting things the same

[22:33:50]

Beirdo:

I am, although I bought a RAID5 card and drives today (before that machine dies)

[22:34:09]

kormoc:

jonk, I've had that issue at times as well with nvidia's autodetection

[22:34:14]

Beirdo:

but that's a business expense :)

[22:34:32]

mchou:

Beirdo: wtf are you doing, trancode host?

[22:34:41]

mchou:

transcode*

[22:34:46]

Beirdo:

the RAID5 is for my fileserver

[22:34:54]

mchou:

no, the gpus

[22:35:00]

Beirdo:

ah

[22:35:06]

Beirdo:

yeah, for offloading the CPU

[22:35:39]

Beirdo:

use the GPU. an FX5200 has the approximate processing power of an Athlon according to the openvidia people

[22:35:41]

woodwizzle:

isn't there a .pl script that gets all the icons for channels? like the peacock for NBC?

[22:35:49]

jonk:

i've been workign with cg

[22:36:06]

mchou:

Beirdo: where is the code for gpu transcode?

[22:36:10]

Beirdo:

yeah, my plan is to use cg to make OpenGL programs

[22:36:14]

Beirdo:

there is no code yet

[22:36:31]

Beirdo:

I've been busy on other things... like wedding plans, work, the bot, etc

[22:36:32]

woodwizzle:

Beirdo, wouldn't additional cpus be more effective and cheaper?

[22:36:37]

Beirdo:

no

[22:36:40]

Beirdo:

hell no

[22:36:47]

mchou:

woodwizzle: exactly :)

[22:36:47]

kormoc:

mchou, there's a windows version already, http://www.avisynth.org/tsp/

[22:36:52]

kormoc:

mchou, fft3dgpu

[22:36:53]

Beirdo:

how much is a 4-way box?

[22:37:14]

woodwizzle:

get some older cpus and build a beowulf cluster =)

[22:37:14]

mchou:

Beirdo: who said anything about 4-way

[22:37:16]

Beirdo:

now, how much is it for 3 PCI FX5200 or so?

[22:37:21]

Beirdo:

think about it

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mchou:

X2 baby!!

[22:37:48]

mchou:

2xX2 ought to suffice :)

[22:38:16]

Beirdo:

oh, and that's SO power-efficient

[22:38:20]

mchou:

Beirdo: what power supply you using?

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jonk:

cool i do work for nvidia

[22:38:36]

Beirdo:

and that would require a rewrite of the code anyways to use > 1 processors

[22:38:40]

mchou:

lol, like 5cfx5500 is more power efficient than 2xX2

[22:38:55]

mchou:

bullshit!

[22:38:56]

Beirdo:

it is

[22:39:29]

Beirdo:

anyways, you can go play with your crap, I'll play with mine

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drdaz:

hmm how do I disable the opengl painter?

[22:39:41]

Beirdo:

at the end, you may find the coolness of it

[22:40:35]

drdaz:

ahh nm think I found it

[22:40:44]

jonk:

i'd just like my nvidia tvout to work again

[22:41:01]

kormoc:

jonk, so did that change anything?

[22:41:16]

Juski:

jonk: something must have changed – linux doesn't 'just stop working'

[22:41:18]

jonk:

i haven't tried anything

[22:41:32]

jonk:

the box works fine, it's just the svid out on the card

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mchou:

kormoc: fft3dgpu is for fft. Not transcoding. :)

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jonk:

came home last night from trip to minnesota

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jonk:

(got to play with a blue gene system)

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jonk:

and nothign, blue screen of no signal

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mchou:

kormoc: and a dsp would be cheaper than a vid card for that stuff.

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kormoc:

mchou, yes, hence my saing for windows. Beirdo's project is to do something similar for transcode.

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mchou:

kormoc: huh??

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mchou:

kormoc: fft!=transode

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kormoc:

...

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andrew_:

hey all – anybody here use USB drives for storage / extending an LVM?

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mchou:

transcode*

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jonk:

and try what kormoc,

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Beirdo:

mchou, what he pointed to was a denoising filter

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kormoc:

mchou, hence my saing the link I gave you was for a windows program, not transcode...

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Beirdo:

which is the first step

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kormoc:

jonk, everything I said, set the tv standard, remove the int10 and the framebuffer lines

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jonk:

ok wil try, but all that comes into play long after the post screen

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Pitchin_uk:

evening room – any mythweb wizards in??

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kormoc:

sure, but if perchance it works and you lose post viewableness, it's it worth a shot?

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ru080:

I get the error "GuideGrid: You don't have any channels defined in the database. Guide grid will have nothing to show you." and I have channels in database and in mythtv-setup chanels and i have de progama of this channels

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abarbaccia:

anybody here use USB disks for storage?

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Pitchin_uk:

Evening Juski if your in

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jonk:

nerding it up on battle.net

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mchou:

abarbaccia: yeah, I use usb for back up.

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mchou:

abarbaccia: great for making use of those old ide drives

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mchou:

abarbaccia: I suddenly got lots of usable storage :)

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jonk:

so "tvstandard"

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jonk:

"NTSC-M"

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jonk:

?

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Juski:

evenin Pitchin_uk

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Beirdo:

I use a USB key to transfer data to/from work.

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Juski:

mythweb wizards – what hell that?

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Juski:

peeps who got it working? ;-)

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drdaz:

hmm I think there's a boob in mythnews atm

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drdaz:

when I select an article I get a black screen on my telly.. if I alt-tab there are 2 mythbrowsers open

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drdaz:

the one in front is black..

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drdaz:

^^ wow

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Pitchin_uk:

anyone know if the mythweb setup changed much when it went to 0.19??

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mchou:

man, irc is pretty screwed up

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Juski:

Pitchin_uk: yeah – config is now done in the .htaccess file in the mythweb root directory

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Juski:

there's something about it on the wiki I think

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Beirdo:

oh nice

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Beirdo:

lag?!

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Beirdo:

stupidass server

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mchou:

lots of ppl got dropped apparently

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drdaz:

big time

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drdaz:

I'll repost my last messages just to make sure :p

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drdaz:

hmm I think there's a boob in mythnews atm

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drdaz:

when I select an article I get a black screen on my telly.. if I alt-tab there are 2 mythbrowsers open

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drdaz:

the one in front is black..

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OMFG

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narf:

did freenode just restart or something?

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Beirdo:

nah, it just split into a few pieces, it seems

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drdaz:

lol I'll try again..

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drdaz:

hmm I think there's a boob in mythnews atm

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drdaz:

when I select an article I get a black screen on my telly.. if I alt-tab there are 2 mythbrowsers open

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drdaz:

the one in front is black..

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defi:

Whats better getting a remote and lirc, or just programming a remote with a wireless keybpard

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narf:

so freenode does this from time to time?

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kormoc:

yup

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Beirdo:

sometimes, but not terrribly often, thankfully

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Beirdo:

I hope that's all for now

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kormoc:

yeah

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Pitchin_uk:

Juski – ive tried to follow the readme but im lost – when i goto http://localhost/mythweb/ i get a Server error! error 500 – any ideas??

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Juski:

Pitchin_uk: try using your machine's real ip address

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Pitchin_uk:

juski – same

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Pitchin_uk:

im a bit confused about how ive added the host – could you run through it with me??

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Juski:

I don't really know what I'm doing with apache to be honest.. I fiddle, it works

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drdaz:

story of my life tbh

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Juski:

hehe

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Juski:

I was ok with basic stuff, like getting php pages working by myself, but all this vhost stuff loses me

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ru080:

I get the error "GuideGrid: You don't have any channels defined in the database. Guide grid will have nothing to show you." and I have channels in database and in mythtv-setup chanels and i have de progama of this channels

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Juski:

ru080: try assigning a video source to your capture card then

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Pitchin_uk:

juski – same here

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Pitchin_uk:

except without the php knowledge

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Pitchin_uk:

is the follow symlinks bit crucial??/

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jonk:

i think it was a bent svideo pin

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ru080:

I have a video source, buy I use: mythfilldatabase --file 0 1 tvguide.xml , because xmltv in spain is broken

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Juski:

made my own php database app thingy a while back, so 'customers' could check my availability & request music – but I decided against going back into the biz of mobile DJing

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ru080:

Juski: you anderstant me?

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Juski:

ru080: you said everything you need to do apart from assign the video source to the capture card

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Pitchin_uk: generally the apache error log should give you a hint about why the error is there

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jonk:

and i bet it was the maid

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jonk:

that bent it

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Beirdo:

and what were you doing to the maid at the time?

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Pitchin_uk: although, if it's a fresh apache install, chances are you are missing one of the required apache modules...mod_rewrite and mod_env I believe

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Pitchin_uk:

RaymAn-Bx – yeah i noticed they weren't in the lis

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Pitchin_uk:

t

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ru080:

Juski: where can I assing the video source to the capture card?

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Pitchin_uk:

right slight progress – im now getting access forbidden

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atomjack:

i need some help setting up ivtv for my pvr-350 – for some reason yum wants to install the kernel modules for i686, when ivtv wants i586 – i am able to install the kernel modules for i586, but when i go to install ivtv, it then installs the kernel modules for i686 – is there a way to make yum skip that?

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atomjack:

ahh ok well i figured it out – using --exclude, but it complains about a missing dependancy

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atomjack:

(the kernel modules)

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Juski:

so, get the kernel-dev stuff you need ;-)

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atomjack:

juski:talkin to me?

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Juski:

atomjack: you might be better off not using yum – just get the kernel source & ivtv source – build it yourself

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atomjack:

ok:(

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atomjack:

ugh it worked previously with apt

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atomjack:

argh

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Juski:

seems FC is dependency hellish

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Juski:

atomjack: compiling it yourself ain't that bad :-)

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atomjack:

i can get the kernel source that the kernel i got from yum was compiled from, from yum?

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drdaz:

... ye

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drdaz:

s

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atomjack:

hmm i dont see it on yum list all

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drdaz:

yum install kernel-devel

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drdaz:

?

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atomjack:

ahhh

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atomjack:

ok, yeah

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Pitchin_uk:

thats weird when i goto http://localhost/mythweb/ i get access forbidden but when i goto the ip of my machine/mythweb i get a blank screen?

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atomjack:

check the .htaccess file?

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atomjack:

argh, it installed the source for 1372, not 1381. wtf.

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drdaz:

heh

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drdaz:

well u can find the rpm for the source and use rpm to install it

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drdaz:

rpm -ivh link://to.rpm.file

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atomjack:

hm it installed the 686 kernel-devel when i have the 586 kernel installed

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atomjack:

going to try that

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atomjack:

oh well, that didnt work. gr

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Pitchin_uk:

juski + rayman-bx – does this mean anything to you http://pastebin.com/584255

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drdaz:

dumb question... u sure you're running i586?

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drdaz:

yum seems convinced you arent

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Pitchin_uk: enable the ones it asks for =P

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atomjack:

[root@localhost kernels]# uname -a

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atomjack:

Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 #1 Fri Oct 21 03:46:49 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

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drdaz:

...

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atomjack:

i am so confused

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** drdaz agrees **

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drdaz:

:p

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drdaz:

looks alot like i686 from here

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atomjack:

this all came about because when i installed the ivtv drivers with yum, it complained about some version magic 686 gcc-3.4 should be 586 gcc-3.4...

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atomjack:

when i tried to modprobe

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kormoc:

just cause gcc is 586 compiled doesn't mean your kernel is

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atomjack:

oh so i need gcc 686

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atomjack:

?

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Pitchin_uk:

rayman-bx – not sure i follow

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atomjack:

rpm -qa and yum list all say nothing about 586 or 686 for gcc

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atomjack:

in fact, it all says i386

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Pitchin_uk: it asks for FollowSymLinks and SymLinksIfOwnerMatch so you need to enable those in the directory setting for the place where your files are

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atomjack:

ok so how do i get past this:

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atomjack:

ivtv: version magic '2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 586 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4'

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Pitchin_uk:

rayman – does that mean enable one of the modules – its over my head at the mo

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RaYmAn-Bx:

Pitchin_uk: Option as it says. I'm a tad tired, but have a look at the apache manual

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xanderp:

I see that the latest release of myth included support for pvr2/350 closed captions but i haven't located any docs on how to get them working. would someone please point me in the correct direction?

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drdaz:

atomjack: try removing the ivtv driver and kernel module with yum

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atomjack:

oh i think i figured it out

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atomjack:

i had to manuall install the latest kernel (rpm) in order to get my ethernet card working, and i did the 586..woops

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drdaz:

but..

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drdaz:

according to your uname output you are running i696

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atomjack:

it's giving me that problem cause i am acually running on a 586 kernel

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atomjack:

yeah i dunno

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