| Wednesday, March 1st, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: That's what I saw to my Fiancee :) |
| [00:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | err say |
| [00:00:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: huh? that didn't make sense (or my brain is too fried from looking at weblogs) |
| [00:00:00] | xris: | ahh. |
| [00:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | she swoons over some guy but I am not allowed to cmment ? Pffft please :) |
| [00:01:00] | sillysally: | i guess i understand that.. |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | heh |
| [00:01:00] | ** GreyFoxx is watching BSG now heh ** | |
| [00:01:00] | rsquared: | hey greyfoxx, that didn't work |
| [00:02:00] | sillysally: | i don't suppose any of you use xine huh? |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | sillysally: besides. that's what they're there for... it's not like they don't take advantage of women's interests the same way (ref: teeny tiny towel in BSG) |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | sillysally: I do |
| [00:02:00] | kormoc: | sillysally, I use xine, but not with lirc |
| [00:02:00] | sillysally: | how do you control it? |
| [00:02:00] | awilkins: | sillysally: I have xine installed ; don't really use the DVD playing, but I can paste you my LIRCRC |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | sillysally: keyboard |
| [00:02:00] | rsquared: | i actually wonder if my problem might have something to do w/my sound card |
| [00:03:00] | rsquared: | with mythfrontend --verbose all i get: |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | altho I'll be setting up lirc soon for my mythbox |
| [00:03:00] | rsquared: | audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 1620 need 4096 |
| [00:03:00] | sillysally: | can you tell me what the xine command your using for ff or jump +60? |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | sillysally: up arrow is ff |
| [00:04:00] | rsquared: | and i notice my receiver keeps trying to resync the channels |
| [00:04:00] | sillysally: | yes on the keyboard i meant for an lircrc file |
| [00:04:00] | rsquared: | hrm |
| [00:05:00] | awilkins: | sillysally: I have FF defined as SeekRelative+30 |
| [00:05:00] | sillysally: | cuz i have scowered and scowered and found 3 different commands and none work with the current version of xine |
| [00:05:00] | sillysally: | let me give that a try |
| [00:07:00] | sillysally: | dagnabbit.. no dice :-( |
| [00:07:00] | kormoc: | sillysally, http://xinehq.de/index.php/readme#2.4.4 |
| [00:07:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone use mythflix ? I haven't seen any screen shots |
| [00:08:00] | kormoc: | sillysally, "xine can self generate a lirc entries draft, using 'xine --keymap=lirc', then you can redirect the output to a file to polish the settings." |
| [00:08:00] | sillysally: | oh my now that is handy! |
| [00:09:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.com/577627 <-- help please |
| [00:09:00] | rsquared: | hey... what about the ac3/dts to spdif passthrough |
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| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, check your mysql logs |
| [00:10:00] | rtsai1111: | Esotericisms: that looks like ENOSPC (errno=28) |
| [00:10:00] | rtsai1111: | (assuming that's an errno value) |
| [00:10:00] | awilkins: | Out of disk space? |
| [00:11:00] | Esotericisms: | yup .. seems to be the problem .. shit ... hold on ... |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | amusing |
| [00:11:00] | rtsai1111: | it also looks weird to be in "./mythconverg"; shouldn't that be /var/lib/mysql/... or something? |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | rtsai1111, it's a realtive path, that's fine |
| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | rtsai1111, the mysql daemon 'lives' in /var/lib/mysql, so that's /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg/blah |
| [00:13:00] | sillysally: | i am going to reboot to give that a try in case i am doing something wrong.. will let you guys know what i find out |
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| [00:14:00] | Esotericisms: | fixed ... yeah I ran out of disk space .. whoops! |
| [00:14:00] | Esotericisms: | now I need to figure out why my mythweb didn't upgrade |
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| [00:21:00] | bird603568: | has anyone installed mythtv with slackware? |
| [00:21:00] | bird603568: | just woundering how easy it is |
| [00:23:00] | awilkins: | I use gentoo. It's virtually impossible, but you learn a lot. |
| [00:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | bird603568: All slackware here |
| [00:23:00] | sillysally: | nope.. didn't work .. that makes me mad.. when xine says it takes a command it should.. the --lirc output says it should take quit to quit but i have to use q for quit.. it only seems to want keyboard commands in my lircrc and i have no idea how to put the left/right arrow in the lircrc file |
| [00:23:00] | bird603568: | nice GreyFoxx |
| [00:23:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I learned all I wanted to about gentoo from funroll-loops.org |
| [00:23:00] | bird603568: | i <3 slackware |
| [00:24:00] | bird603568: | so GreyFoxx its not a pita? |
| [00:24:00] | sillysally: | thanks for trying guys.. not sure what to try next :-( |
| [00:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | bird603568: not in my opinion no |
| [00:24:00] | bird603568: | no dependincy hell? |
| [00:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [00:25:00] | bird603568: | ok because i have slack on that box but i dont want to reinstall another distro |
| [00:29:00] | Esotericisms: | mythweb is kicking my automatically to program_listing.php, which doesn't exist anymore, anyone know why? I can't find a directive in the httpd.conf or the .htaccess file that says to go there |
| [00:30:00] | awilkins: | Esotericisms: Page cache in your browser? |
| [00:31:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: I had issues with that when I upgraded. clear your browser cache |
| [00:31:00] | Esotericisms: | ok ... will try ... |
| [00:31:00] | Esotericisms: | weird ... cool ... how do you take advantage of the wap theme? |
| [00:32:00] | DarkBeer: | nuvexport question: is there a dramatic difference in quality with the "enable noise reduction" option? converting a number of spongebob episodes to divx for the kids. original nuv is 590 meg and the divx file winds up around 190 meg, but it takes almost 2 hours per episode (p4 3ghz 1gig ram). if there isn't that much difference, I'll drop it for the additional speed |
| [00:35:00] | rsquared: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
| [00:36:00] | sillysally: | okay easy question guys.. now that i am relatively configured here i want to get a RF mouse/keyboard combo any suggestionss on what i could buy? |
| [00:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody know if mythfrontend binaries exist for OSX yet? |
| [00:37:00] | rsquared: | i have the cheap logitech, works pretty good |
| [00:37:00] | Esotericisms: | are you going to just be using this system to watch tv, and record? or are you going to use it for the internet and such? |
| [00:37:00] | sillysally: | would like some more range than just 3 meters |
| [00:37:00] | rsquared: | good luck with that |
| [00:37:00] | sillysally: | using it for everything |
| [00:38:00] | sillysally: | games... internet.. everything |
| [00:38:00] | Esotericisms: | nm then ... I just use it for recording and playback and so I use the Niveus Media RF/IR remote ... |
| [00:40:00] | sillysally: | oh so you use the standard microsoft remote and keyboard |
| [00:41:00] | sillysally: | i heard people were very happy with those |
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| [00:47:00] | Esotericisms: | who manages mythweb? |
| [00:47:00] | Esotericisms: | no |
| [00:47:00] | Esotericisms: | that isn't what I use |
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| [00:50:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: me |
| [00:50:00] | xris: | unfortunately, the ms remote keyboard is a huge PITA to get working in linux. kormoc has come the closest of any I've heard. |
| [00:51:00] | kormoc: | I'll be playing with it more later |
| [00:51:00] | kormoc: | I did get it to type a little bit |
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| [00:55:00] | Esotericisms: | xris, you interested in making it a little more robust? I am willing to help in a few weeks. Some ideas are we can cut a lot of data from the listing page so it loads quicker if you were to use ajax to retrieve the data about the shows for the mouseover events |
| [00:55:00] | Esotericisms: | plus there are some other cool things that can be done too |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, xris is gonna be updating the ajax lib sometime soon, to make it much nicer. it will support multiple ajax requests at a single time, async and sync. |
| [00:56:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: there's a lot that needs to be done to that, yes... first thing I want to do is convert the current default theme to a "compact" one... |
| [00:56:00] | xris: | then start adding ajax stuff to default. |
| [00:56:00] | xris: | kormoc: who will be? ;) |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | xris, hehe, then I will be :P |
| [00:57:00] | kormoc: | tho, you still have comit privs :P |
| [00:57:00] | xris: | trye |
| [00:57:00] | xris: | true |
| [00:57:00] | Esotericisms: | xris, you interested in getting mythweb up on an svn server? |
| [00:57:00] | Esotericisms: | or cvs server? |
| [00:57:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: huh? it's at svn.mythtv.org with the rest of myth |
| [00:57:00] | Esotericisms: | I will help ... I am very talented when it comes to xhtml, html, css, javascript, ajax, etc ... |
| [00:57:00] | Esotericisms: | ah .. didn't know that ... sorry ... :/ |
| [00:57:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythplugins/mythweb |
| [00:58:00] | xris: | along with a (small) pile of tickets, inclusding some stuff you probably want to talk about |
| [00:58:00] | xris: | kormoc: I just want to make sure that your changes won't break current code (or what I have to do to prevent breakage) |
| [00:58:00] | xris: | and get your stats stuff in place |
| [00:58:00] | kormoc: | xris, yeah, understandably. |
| [00:58:00] | kormoc: | I should copy ajax.js into my mythweb install at home and play |
| [00:59:00] | xris: | kormoc: it shouldn't be much.. but you're more familiar with that code at the moment. |
| [01:00:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [01:00:00] | ** xris goes back to banging on web logs ** | |
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| [01:08:00] | wakko: | Is MythTV gonna care if it runs on Moto or Intel processors on Mac? |
| [01:08:00] | mos__: | is there a ppc version of mythtv even? |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | wakko: in osx or linux? |
| [01:08:00] | wakko: | OSX |
| [01:09:00] | xris: | mos__: there's an osx version of the frontend. |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | mos__, for OSX, yes |
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| [01:09:00] | mos__: | ah |
| [01:09:00] | wakko: | with this new Mac Mini, I thought it may be cool to use one as a front end |
| [01:09:00] | xris: | wakko: I don't know, honestly. I think most of the osx compile flags are for g4/g5 optimization |
| [01:09:00] | wakko: | but it is Intel |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | wakko, chutt said earler that he knows people have tried, and it doesn't work out of the box yet. |
| [01:09:00] | wakko: | ok kewl |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | so as of right now, it does not work, but likely in the future it shall |
| [01:10:00] | wakko: | Well, it will have to sooner or later – they will all be Intel macs in less than a year |
| [01:10:00] | ** mos__ is disapointed that mac went intel ** | |
| [01:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: I cant find OSX frontend for 0.19 |
| [01:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [01:10:00] | mos__: | I would have rathered they went cell |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, you can compile it yourself |
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| [01:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: the mythtv packager fails |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | mos__, cell won't be that good for a desktop really. |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, could ask on the mailing list |
| [01:11:00] | xris: | wakko: could always just use it with linux |
| [01:11:00] | wakko: | I like the Intel switch – faster for meas a designer and video geek |
| [01:11:00] | wakko: | true, true |
| [01:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: I know its a problem that I created though so I mean the only solution that will really work is reinstall |
| [01:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: QT wont compile is the problem |
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| [01:16:00] | achew22_: | hello! |
| [01:16:00] | achew22_: | Would someone be willing to help me with a lirc problem? |
| [01:19:00] | wakko: | On mythbackend startup, I'm getting a "CheckChannel failed" error. Is that important? |
| [01:19:00] | wakko: | or will it just yeild me a black picture until I change channel? |
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| [01:29:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – anybody here use firewire to grab off their HD box? |
| [01:29:00] | abarbaccia: | i was wondering if it changes channels through the same interface? |
| [01:31:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: I think that depends on the box |
| [01:31:00] | abarbaccia: | its the motorola dct6200? i think |
| [01:31:00] | xris: | no clue about specifics... |
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| [01:32:00] | rsquared: | abarbaccia: it does |
| [01:33:00] | abarbaccia: | alright – do you know of any good reading on that? like how to let myth know its using firewire to change the channels |
| [01:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | abarbaccia: I am going to be starting doing that on next wednesday :) |
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| [01:33:00] | rsquared: | it does it automatically |
| [01:33:00] | abarbaccia: | SlicerDicer-, well, maybe this time tomorrow i can let you know how easy it is! |
| [01:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [01:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I hear its pretty simplistic :) |
| [01:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | once you get it working anwyay |
| [01:33:00] | rsquared: | once it works, it's pie |
| [01:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | aye |
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| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | isnt that true about linux in general – "once u get it working, its easy" |
| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | Firewire. |
| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | You may use the Firewire output of the Motorola DCT6200 or the SA3250. If your provider uses 5C encryption on a particular channel, you won't be able to get any content. |
| [01:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no not really anymore :) alot of shit just werks |
| [01:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | thanks mythtv docs |
| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | you are always so helpful |
| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | yeah, its getting a lot lot lot easier |
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| [01:37:00] | rsquared: | if only the sd channels were working properly for me |
| [01:37:00] | rsquared: | ugh |
| [01:37:00] | rsquared: | it may have to do w/my soundcard though |
| [01:37:00] | rsquared: | since i don't think the sd channels have any real surround |
| [01:37:00] | abarbaccia: | rsquared, you are using firewire right now |
| [01:37:00] | rsquared: | yup |
| [01:37:00] | abarbaccia: | yeah, seems like you have some fancy setup |
| [01:37:00] | abarbaccia: | what sound card do you have? |
| [01:37:00] | rsquared: | onboard |
| [01:38:00] | rsquared: | from a Asus P5WD2 Premium |
| [01:38:00] | abarbaccia: | and how are you outputting |
| [01:38:00] | rsquared: | spdif |
| [01:38:00] | rsquared: | to my receiver |
| [01:38:00] | abarbaccia: | and whats the problem? |
| [01:38:00] | rsquared: | myth works perfectly w/HD content |
| [01:39:00] | rsquared: | but when it switches the 6200 to a SD channel, playback is choppy |
| [01:39:00] | rsquared: | if i do a recording, same thing |
| [01:39:00] | rsquared: | but if i play the recording via mplayer, it works fine |
| [01:39:00] | rsquared: | it makes absolutely -34523423423 sense |
| [01:39:00] | abarbaccia: | how are you outputting to the TV |
| [01:39:00] | rsquared: | DVI-HDMI |
| [01:40:00] | abarbaccia: | do you have any sort of deinterlace settings on |
| [01:40:00] | rsquared: | yeah |
| [01:40:00] | abarbaccia: | LCD tv? |
| [01:40:00] | rsquared: | but i've tried w/out |
| [01:40:00] | rsquared: | nah... sony 34" crt HDTV |
| [01:40:00] | rsquared: | 16:9 |
| [01:40:00] | rsquared: | yada yada yada |
| [01:40:00] | abarbaccia: | im outta answers my man |
| [01:40:00] | rsquared: | along w/everyone |
| [01:41:00] | abarbaccia: | i'll let you know as soon as i get my firewire cable tomorrow (card came today) |
| [01:41:00] | rsquared: | card? |
| [01:41:00] | rsquared: | oh.. firewire? |
| [01:41:00] | abarbaccia: | welll, i have a personal box that had no firewire |
| [01:41:00] | rsquared: | ah |
| [01:41:00] | rsquared: | how fast? |
| [01:41:00] | abarbaccia: | but i'll hook it up to my pundit box with asus onboard – almost same setup u got and let you know whatt happens |
| [01:42:00] | abarbaccia: | 3.0Ghz AMD |
| [01:42:00] | abarbaccia: | or 2.8 |
| [01:42:00] | abarbaccia: | can't rememer |
| [01:42:00] | rsquared: | well... it's funny... |
| [01:42:00] | abarbaccia: | nVidia graphics |
| [01:42:00] | abarbaccia: | but the pundit is onlya 2.6 Celeron |
| [01:42:00] | rsquared: | cuz my old box is a p4 2.8 533fsb, no HT |
| [01:42:00] | abarbaccia: | so its gonna struggle |
| [01:42:00] | rsquared: | w/an audigy |
| [01:42:00] | rsquared: | and the SD stuff worked |
| [01:42:00] | rsquared: | as far as i recall |
| [01:42:00] | rsquared: | so i almost think it might be the sound card |
| [01:43:00] | rsquared: | but i really like having only 1 card inside my new box |
| [01:48:00] | rsquared: | it's like my audio goes too fast, then myth has to drop frames too keep it sync'd |
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| [01:52:00] | Juski: | rsquared: try enabling aggressive audio buffering in the tv playback settings menu. just a thought |
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| [01:52:00] | rsquared: | i'll give that a shot right now... i can't fully test since i'm not at home |
| [01:53:00] | rsquared: | just looking at logs through vnc |
| [01:53:00] | rsquared: | lol |
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| [01:55:00] | rsquared: | doesn't seem to drop as many frames |
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| [01:57:00] | Shdwdrgn: | any idea why my channel listings (pulled from zap2it), about 1/3 of the channels are listed as unknown? |
| [01:58:00] | rsquared: | maybe the connection dropped part of the way through, or the data is wrong from them |
| [01:58:00] | rsquared: | but that's just a guess |
| [01:59:00] | Shdwdrgn: | this has been going on since last week, always the same channels |
| [01:59:00] | Shdwdrgn: | is ther a way to force a full update/ |
| [01:59:00] | rsquared: | you might have to go into mythsetup and remove your input connections/etc to remove the data from the database |
| [02:00:00] | rsquared: | (i could be wrong on that too) |
| [02:00:00] | Shdwdrgn: | hmm well it's worth a shot |
| [02:00:00] | rsquared: | is there seriously no freakin sound cards that have a rear spdif out? |
| [02:01:00] | Juski: | that's the pundit penalty ;-) |
| [02:01:00] | Juski: | I added a coaxial output to my own SBLive! card a few years ago – dead easy |
| [02:01:00] | rsquared: | O RLY? |
| [02:01:00] | rsquared: | how so? |
| [02:01:00] | rsquared: | cuz i have an audigy |
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| [02:02:00] | Juski: | audigy cards have a header for their spdif outputs don't they? you can buy brackets for them.. remove the socket from said bracket & mount in a new case hole |
| [02:03:00] | rsquared: | the audigy has the livedrive |
| [02:03:00] | xpis: | (o/t) I have to spend $35 at Dell by midnight. Any suggestions? (for my mythtv box, of course) |
| [02:03:00] | rsquared: | which is where the spdif is |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | eew |
| [02:03:00] | rsquared: | and there's a firewire cable, and a ide type of cable that go between the card and the livedrive |
| [02:04:00] | Juski: | still, I think the digital connections are on that 40 way cable |
| [02:04:00] | Juski: | I hacked an old IDE cable up to make my spdif output. there are howto pages somewhere for that |
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| [02:06:00] | phar0e: | damn juski, do you ever sleep? |
| [02:06:00] | rsquared: | http://www.opticompo.com/audio/index.html |
| [02:07:00] | Juski: | had early night.. mobile phone came on, woke me up :-/ |
| [02:07:00] | rsquared: | oh wait |
| [02:07:00] | rsquared: | maybe it uses the small cable rather than the ide cable |
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| [02:09:00] | Juski: | http://alive.singnet.com.sg/tech/ |
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| [02:10:00] | rsquared: | alright.. i'm goin home |
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| [02:17:00] | djohnson: | any mythweb experts? |
| [02:17:00] | djohnson: | Or anybody have mythweb running on Suse 10.0 at all? |
| [02:21:00] | Juski: | djohnson: what's the problem? post questions about problems ;-) |
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| [02:24:00] | xpis: | I'm thinking about building a second frontend... would a Geforce MX 4000 suffice? (I can get it free if I order it before midnight from Dell) |
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| [02:25:00] | phar0e: | an mx 4000? |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | mx4000? is that geforce4? |
| [02:25:00] | phar0e: | is that the same thing as an gf4 mx? |
| [02:25:00] | xpis: | I have no idea. |
| [02:26:00] | xpis: | http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDet . . . refurbished= |
| [02:26:00] | phar0e: | well I have the cheapest of the cheap gf4 mx with tv out and it works beautifully for a frontend |
| [02:26:00] | phar0e: | I can play HD content using xvmc no problem, and only have 1GHz CPU |
| [02:27:00] | xpis: | I am currently using a Trident XP5 as a graphics card. There is no YUY2 overlay support from the trident driver in its current state (alanh hasn't got around to fixing it), so my CPU goes nuts. |
| [02:27:00] | phar0e: | I wouldn't buy anything that Dell has touched, but that's just me |
| [02:28:00] | xpis: | I'm not buying it. I am getting it free. |
| [02:28:00] | phar0e: | then you have nothing to lose |
| [02:30:00] | xpis: | But I can get anything <=$35 free... so I'm not sure whether to do it on this or get a USB-serial adapter or something. |
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| [02:49:00] | FunkyELF: | how do I get a count of rows in a mysql table? |
| [02:50:00] | FunkyELF: | select count from table_name; didn't work |
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| [02:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | you have to give it a column name or * |
| [02:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | select count(*) from table; |
| [02:52:00] | FunkyELF: | thanks |
| [02:52:00] | FunkyELF: | loading music into the database takes forever |
| [02:52:00] | FunkyELF: | ....via a samba share |
| [03:02:00] | braniff: | how's about using NFS? |
| [03:04:00] | Icemaann: | does anyone know where to get a datadirect zap2it account for movie times (trying to use mythmovietime)? |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | Icemaann: you can't. it was only for lxmsuite, which is gone now |
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| [03:16:00] | mos__: | im getting an error and am not sure how to fix it, can anyone guide me? error msg is: |
| [03:16:00] | mos__: | Table './mythconverg/recordedmarkup' is marked as crashed and should be repaired |
| [03:18:00] | rtsai1111: | mysqlcheck -r |
| [03:21:00] | mos__: | thanks |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: you wanted to talk? |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | mos__: or run optimize_mythdb.pl from contrib |
| [03:22:00] | mos__: | from contrib? |
| [03:23:00] | mos__: | where is this contrib? |
| [03:23:00] | xris: | mos__: in the source |
| [03:23:00] | mos__: | ah |
| [03:23:00] | xris: | some distros put it in /usr/share/mythtv |
| [03:24:00] | mos__: | looking now |
| [03:24:00] | ** mos__ is using arch ** | |
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| [03:26:00] | mos__: | yep doesnt include it |
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| [03:27:00] | xris: | mos__: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythtv/contrib/ |
| [03:27:00] | xris: | wow, amazing I didn't typo that |
| [03:28:00] | mos__: | heh |
| [03:29:00] | mos__: | well the mysqlcheck method sucedded in reparining the database, but i think ill try and see if i cant get that pl script working |
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| [03:30:00] | xris: | the pl script is nice because it pulls the db login info from your mythweb setup |
| [03:30:00] | xris: | and it optimizes the tables, which can save some disk space here and there. |
| [03:30:00] | mos__: | heh diskspace... |
| [03:30:00] | mos__: | i have 2 400GB sata drives |
| [03:30:00] | mos__: | diskspace isnt an issue |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | well, "makes the db run slightly faster" then |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | heh |
| [03:31:00] | mos__: | except when logfiles go crazy and completely fill my tiny / partition |
| [03:31:00] | rjune: | xris: what is linuxdvb in your specfile? |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | rjune: which spec? |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | mythtv? |
| [03:32:00] | rjune: | http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/mythtv.spec |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | probably something of axel's |
| [03:32:00] | rjune: | it seems to be a soource requrement |
| [03:33:00] | rjune: | source12 |
| [03:33:00] | phar0e: | xris = chris the forevermore mythweb guy? |
| [03:33:00] | rjune: | source is required whether you say to build it or not. |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | phar0e: yes |
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| [03:33:00] | xris: | rjune: it comes from axel's src.rpm |
| [03:33:00] | phar0e: | xris: had a question for you, forgot what it was :) gotta think for a sec |
| [03:33:00] | rtsai1111: | do OTA HD broadcasts have close captioning? |
| [03:33:00] | rtsai1111: | Or is that like a per-area kind of thing? |
| [03:34:00] | rjune: | xris: ok. |
| [03:34:00] | mos__: | yes they do but most closed captions suck |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | rjune: dunno if it's needed anymore. he still includes it, so I do, too |
| [03:35:00] | rjune: | you have a --with-dvb option, and it pulls out building dvb, but not the source rea |
| [03:35:00] | rjune: | req |
| [03:35:00] | ** braniff wonders if there is pr0n with closed captioning... ** | |
| [03:35:00] | braniff: | for the deaf you know |
| [03:36:00] | rjune: | not so much |
| [03:36:00] | rjune: | at least none that I've seen |
| [03:36:00] | rjune: | most people don't much care about the dialog |
| [03:36:00] | xris: | rjune: I probably never noticed. |
| [03:37:00] | braniff: | heh |
| [03:37:00] | rjune: | with-dvb is the default, so probably |
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| [03:39:00] | phar0e: | my cable company carries some spanish porn channel |
| [03:40:00] | rtsai1111: | closed captions are also useful for noisy environments where you can't hear the TV, or if it's late at night and you don't want to wake anyone up. |
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| [03:40:00] | braniff: | i've never seen spanish porn |
| [03:41:00] | rjune: | rtsai1111: it's freaking porn, it's not like the dialog is really anything to get worked up over. |
| [03:41:00] | xris: | rtsai1111: or when you hit mute to do something like talk on the phone, but want to keep watching the show. |
| [03:42:00] | braniff: | or if you are in a bar... |
| [03:42:00] | braniff: | where it's loud |
| [03:42:00] | rjune: | braniff: what bars do you go to that show porn? |
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| [03:43:00] | braniff: | wasn't talking about porn anymore |
| [03:43:00] | rjune: | oh, there was an actual close captioning question I missed. heh |
| [03:43:00] | rjune: | yeah, so now I'm the pervert with a pr0n hangup. |
| [03:43:00] | braniff: | what kind of channel is this anyway? |
| [03:43:00] | ** rtsai1111 waits for a "yes/no" answer to his "yes/no" question ... ** | |
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| [03:44:00] | rjune: | rtsai1111: [22:36] <mos__> yes they do but most closed captions suck |
| [03:44:00] | xris: | rtsai1111: I don't think anyone knows. heh |
| [03:44:00] | mos__: | well at least in MY area it has cc |
| [03:44:00] | braniff: | nes err i mean yo |
| [03:45:00] | ** braniff shouldn't go online when drunk ** | |
| [03:48:00] | phar0e: | impressive resume, chris |
| [03:49:00] | xris: | phar0e: recruiters seem to think so lately, too |
| [03:49:00] | xris: | it's getting annoying. heh |
| [03:50:00] | phar0e: | you must have a nice mythtv setup in your home |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | not really. just a pundit |
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| [03:54:00] | xris: | I'm not that crazy into tv... I just like mythtv for what it does, and wanted to contribute to open source. |
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| [03:55:00] | phar0e: | i'm sorry to hear that |
| [03:55:00] | xris: | oh? |
| [03:55:00] | phar0e: | quality programming on television! |
| [03:55:00] | xris: | that might convince me to get a better tv. heh |
| [03:56:00] | rjune: | Stargate isn't bad |
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| [03:58:00] | rjune: | http://www.oralse.cx/ <-- we need more of this on TV |
| [03:58:00] | xris: | lol |
| [03:59:00] | xpis: | Cable/Satellite is really a rip-off. My cable bill (internet and TV) is about $100/month. |
| [03:59:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | xpis: I think my satellite bill is worthy |
| [03:59:00] | phar0e: | my cable bill (internet and tv) is roughly $200/month +$50/month satellite |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | $50/month vs about $80–90 I'd be paying for cable (after tax) |
| [03:59:00] | rjune: | jeebus |
| [04:00:00] | rjune: | 150 for phone/net/satellite |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | rjune: now, my internet/phone bill is $130 |
| [04:00:00] | wakko: | ehat is oralse.cx? |
| [04:00:00] | rjune: | expanded local calling area? |
| [04:00:00] | rjune: | wakko: click on it and find out |
| [04:00:00] | xpis: | xris: what type of connection do you have? |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | wakko: it's a safe play on goatse |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | xpis: speakeasy dsl and voip |
| [04:01:00] | wakko: | cute. |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | I pay extra for quality of service, static IP's, reverse dns, etc. |
| [04:01:00] | rjune: | as do I |
| [04:01:00] | rjune: | well static IPs anyway |
| [04:01:00] | xpis: | xris: speakeasy is quite expensive... especially when the phone companies are doing $25/month deals. |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | this way, I host my own and don't have to pay $100+/month for colo |
| [04:01:00] | rjune: | I host my own webserver here too. |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | xpis: yeah, but I can call speakeasy with a problem and when I say "I'm using linux" they don't hang up on me |
| [04:02:00] | rjune: | LOL |
| [04:02:00] | rjune: | I don't mention that part. |
| [04:02:00] | rjune: | I just tell them "my router" |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | rjune: I use linux on my desktop |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | and my firewall |
| [04:02:00] | rjune: | as do I |
| [04:02:00] | rjune: | and my terminal server for my kdis |
| [04:02:00] | rjune: | kids |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | they don't care.. they trust me when I say "I'm looking at the numbers in iptraf, and they're not as high as they should be" |
| [04:03:00] | rjune: | that's cool |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | granted, the problem all ends up being that I'm too far from the CO |
| [04:03:00] | rjune: | yeah, that kinda sucks. |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | but static IP, reverse DNS and permission to run whatever servers I want is worth it. |
| [04:03:00] | rjune: | they map reverse for you? |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | yup |
| [04:03:00] | rjune: | coo |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | reverse forevermore.net |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | well, forward it first |
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| [04:05:00] | xpis: | xris: Where I live SBCT&T won't put more DSL connections in the neighborhood terminal. (it's probably too small) |
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| [04:06:00] | xpis: | (so I have Insight Cable/Road Runner) |
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| [04:06:00] | xris: | xpis: that's kind of lame |
| [04:06:00] | xris: | cable would be much faster downloads for me.. I've pondered getting both, but it's not worth it. |
| [04:07:00] | xpis: | They added a bunch of houses to the area after they built the remote termainal... and they haven't built DSL capacity for everyone who wants it. |
| [04:07:00] | jonty: | can you export the channels from an old mythtv install and import them into a new one? |
| [04:07:00] | xpis: | The thing with cable though is that the upload speed is severely restricted. When getting TV shows remotely, this is what counts. |
| [04:08:00] | xris: | you can get up to 512k upload with comcast.. faster than my dsl is (stupid distance-from-co) |
| [04:10:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm having a problem with mythmusic .19.. My music is stored on an external vfat hard drive, but every time I go into mythmusic, it scans for music, but doesn't find anything |
| [04:13:00] | jonty: | Joey, probably a permissions problem |
| [04:13:00] | jonty: | the "mythtv" user won't have access to the VFAT drive |
| [04:13:00] | jonty: | can your normal user access it (NOT as root)? |
| [04:14:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | jonty: yeah, regular users can mount and read/write to it |
| [04:15:00] | jonty: | hmm, thats that out of the window then |
| [04:15:00] | ** jonty shouts at mythtv's DVB scanning ** | |
| [04:15:00] | jonty: | I get a different set of channels every time :'( |
| [04:15:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm almost thinking that it's the fact that it's a vfat drive |
| [04:16:00] | fozi: | jonty: known issue |
| [04:16:00] | jonty: | crap |
| [04:16:00] | jonty: | fozi: is there a fix in the works? |
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| [04:18:00] | harryk: | greetings all |
| [04:19:00] | fozi: | of course: look http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/744, but not high priority |
| [04:19:00] | harryk: | question or two about the mythtranscode and commercial flagging ... i thought I once read a magic way to re-record an mpeg2 stream w/ commercials removed, so that I could burn just the show to a dvd? .. did I read that correctly? |
| [04:20:00] | xris: | harryk: .19 supports lossless mpeg2 commercial cutting. |
| [04:20:00] | jonty: | fozi, just found that....I would have thought it would be a bit higher priority than that....it essentially renders DVB unusable :| |
| [04:20:00] | xris: | though burning straight to dvd can be problematic because there will often be inconsistencies (blank frames) in the stream that cause sync issues on hardware dvd players. |
| [04:20:00] | jonty: | bah, will have to try and pull the channel list from my old box |
| [04:22:00] | fozi: | no dvb scanning works just fine for my sources |
| [04:22:00] | xpis: | hm.. which is the better deal? Geforce MX4000 for $10 or a snap-n-type PDA keyboard for $13? |
| [04:22:00] | fozi: | have you tried to repeat the scanning |
| [04:24:00] | harryk: | xris, but once the commercials have been removed (within myth) how do I take the same mpeg and move it to another machine to record to dvd |
| [04:25:00] | harryk: | if I understood documentation correctly, the commercials were only 'marked' and not exactly removed |
| [04:25:00] | harryk: | marked allowed the player to skip over segments of video |
| [04:25:00] | harryk: | so how do I permentaly remove the comms |
| [04:25:00] | xris: | harryk: um, scp? ftp? |
| [04:25:00] | harryk: | xris, :) thats not what I meant |
| [04:26:00] | xris: | harryk: yes, by default, they only mark. then you edit the show (press E while watching, and Z to import the flag list as a cutlist, then hand-edit each cutpoint because it's not perfect). |
| [04:26:00] | harryk: | although assuming that was a joke, it was perfect timing |
| [04:26:00] | xris: | then after you've set up your mpeg2 transcode profile to not re-encode, you can just press X while watching and it'll cut out the commercials. |
| [04:28:00] | harryk: | xris, ok, so begin watching the video, and then correct the comm flags, then watch a second time pressing X to encode and permentantly remove the comms |
| [04:28:00] | xris: | simple process is.. watch video, E, Z, E, X, esc (to exit) |
| [04:28:00] | xris: | second E (or esc) will bring you from edit back to watch mode |
| [04:28:00] | harryk: | and away the transcode goes ... |
| [04:29:00] | harryk: | cool, i'll try it now |
| [04:29:00] | harryk: | thanks xris |
| [04:31:00] | jonty: | fozi: I just sat and rescanned about five times – it's got them all (I think) on the fifth |
| [04:32:00] | jonty: | I'll check it against freeview.co.uk |
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| [04:33:00] | fozi: | ok fine |
| [04:33:00] | harryk: | xris, quick assist on the transcoders mpeg2 profile settings? |
| [04:33:00] | purplefrog: | I'm trying to find the section of the menus where I deactivate a channel I don't actually have (like HBO). |
| [04:33:00] | xris: | harryk: just make sure you set it to the same as your recording profile. |
| [04:34:00] | harryk: | what about this lossless transcoding, on or off? |
| [04:34:00] | harryk: | also, it won't allot me to select mpeg2 as the codec for the transcoder profile |
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| [04:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. how come when i rip a dvd i dont get any of the menus? |
| [04:37:00] | purplefrog: | Probably because you didn't do a pure rip with dvdbackup |
| [04:38:00] | purplefrog: | I use dvdbackup -M to back up the entire DVD, it essentially copies the on-disk structure, which can be played using ogle, or another dvd player app. |
| [04:38:00] | purplefrog: | Then the discs go on a shelf safe in another room. |
| [04:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ah |
| [04:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | but then again i like it being very small |
| [04:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ~1 gig or so |
| [04:39:00] | purplefrog: | I don't know of an application which preserves the menus and re-encodes the feature at a lower bit-rate. |
| [04:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its all good |
| [04:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | u know whats funny? when i started this project i just wanted 1 hd and 1 pvr.. now i want another 300 gig hd and like 2 more pvr cards |
| [04:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | god damnit! noone warned me it was addicting |
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| [04:41:00] | harryk: | heh |
| [04:41:00] | harryk: | thats about right Yellow-Snow ... wait till you start feining for an HD card |
| [04:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh damn |
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| [04:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | how much those run? |
| [04:42:00] | purplefrog: | If my HD card could coexist with my regular card, I'd have to buy another hard drive. |
| [04:42:00] | harryk: | Yellow-Snow, various card are around $100 to $140 or so |
| [04:42:00] | purplefrog: | Fortunately, the drivers conflict, and I haven't forced Xen to work yet. |
| [04:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ah |
| [04:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i might need to get a quiet fan for my box tho im going to install it in the front of my dresser and block the front w/ dvd's so maybe i wont hear it |
| [04:42:00] | harryk: | a guy at work showed me one for $80 online |
| [04:43:00] | harryk: | can't remember the brand |
| [04:43:00] | harryk: | he's installing it tonight to let me know how it works |
| [04:43:00] | purplefrog: | All the cool kids use an Xbox for a front end and hide the back end in another room. Are Xboxes really that quiet? |
| [04:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | idk i dont have an xbox |
| [04:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im a computer gamer |
| [04:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
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| [04:44:00] | harryk: | its almost worth picking up a used xbox to mod and put out front |
| [04:44:00] | purplefrog: | I used to be a PC gamer, then games started requiring machines with Windows XP and I said "screw product activation, I'm playing DDR and Guitar Hero." |
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| [04:53:00] | xris: | my computer isn't all that quiet. and it's all because of the stupid video card. |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | my mythbox is really quiet, though |
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| [04:54:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 90 mm gsn? |
| [04:54:00] | Yellow-Snow: | fan? |
| [04:57:00] | harryk: | xris, one more question about the mtd ... i assume its required to be running in daemon mode in order for the mythtranscode to work ... reading the output from running it references a port number .. does the default need to be changed or should it good to go |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa: | omfg |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa: | i just updated my mythtv |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa: | 100% idle |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa: | that cpu is hardcore |
| [04:58:00] | harryk: | nice |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa: | lets see how fast it compiles |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa: | AMD64 3200+ |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa: | 728MB Ram |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa: | PVR500 |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | harryk: no clue. it's always just worked for me. |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa: | sort an overkill |
| [04:59:00] | harryk: | k |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | never set up anything but the backend |
| [04:59:00] | harryk: | cool |
| [04:59:00] | harryk: | i'll let it run |
| [04:59:00] | harryk: | see what happens |
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| [05:00:00] | sri: | greetings |
| [05:00:00] | sri: | if you're using mysql 5.0 is there a problem wtih fillmythdatabase (or whatever that command is?) |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | 23:00:15 up 8 min, 2 users, load average: 0.75, 0.54, 0.34 |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | wow |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | what a hell :P |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | this cpu doesnt get worked up over anything |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | i am taking a picture to share my setup |
| [05:00:00] | harryk: | thats not exactly idle .. but then again 8 minutes |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | 0.75 is idle :P |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa: | it is compiling |
| [05:01:00] | sri: | if you're using a mpeg card, yah, there'll be no cpu usage. |
| [05:01:00] | harryk: | ah |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa: | sri : PVR500 |
| [05:01:00] | harryk: | compiling |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:01:00] | sri: | heh. |
| [05:01:00] | ** sri has a pvr150 ** | |
| [05:01:00] | sri: | which is good enough for him |
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| [05:01:00] | a1fa: | i need an additional pvr500 |
| [05:01:00] | samborambo: | hey people :) |
| [05:01:00] | sri: | but for some dumb reason, using dapper, and using mysql 5.0, my database is messed.. getting issues. |
| [05:01:00] | ** sri suspects that moving to 5.0 caused a problem. ** | |
| [05:01:00] | ** harryk has a pvr500 ... running on a dual p3–450 ** | |
| [05:01:00] | harryk: | thats suficient so far |
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| [05:03:00] | samborambo: | I'm getting interference on my tv from my mythbox. it only affects one channel at 400MHz so I'm assuming it's the FSB. What can I do to fix this? |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa: | picture time |
| [05:04:00] | dev-: | ...oh we want wait... |
| [05:04:00] | dev-: | we're sitting with our web browsers open in anticipation.. |
| [05:05:00] | dev-: | zippitty doodah.. |
| [05:05:00] | harryk: | heh |
| [05:05:00] | harryk: | no really.. tell us how you feel dev- |
| [05:05:00] | harryk: | ;) |
| [05:05:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [05:06:00] | samborambo: | can anyone help me please? |
| [05:06:00] | harryk: | samborambo, for something like that... seriously move the pc further away from the tv |
| [05:06:00] | dev-: | would if i had a clue what the problem was. |
| [05:06:00] | harryk: | give it some room |
| [05:06:00] | harryk: | i've had a similar problem before, and just moving the PC further away solved the issue |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa: | pictures are done |
| [05:07:00] | Beirdo: | or get a better RF shielded case :) |
| [05:07:00] | harryk: | or ... and I can't even believe I'm about to suggest this ... wrap the case in aluminum ... might reduce the rf bleeding all over the room |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa: | i have a really nice case |
| [05:07:00] | Beirdo: | and make a tin foil hat while yer at it... |
| [05:07:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [05:07:00] | Beirdo: | but the foil may actually help |
| [05:08:00] | dev-: | just dont cover up your vents ;) |
| [05:08:00] | harryk: | correct |
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| [05:08:00] | ** a1fa is going to run his honeypot from this box ** | |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa: | hexe hexe hexe |
| [05:09:00] | dev-: | you rebel |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf01051ru.jpg |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | my setup guys |
| [05:09:00] | Yellow-Snow: | CANDUY |
| [05:09:00] | Yellow-Snow: | LAN |
| [05:09:00] | Yellow-Snow: | HES |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | what do you think about the case? |
| [05:09:00] | Yellow-Snow: | THE SHIT |
| [05:09:00] | harryk: | its black |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | Yellow-Snow : girlfriend and I play sex games with it |
| [05:09:00] | Yellow-Snow: | it looks like a speaker |
| [05:10:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wnat to see my case |
| [05:10:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | yes |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | thats why i love it |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | people think its a subwofer |
| [05:10:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wtf why have an xbox |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | but it has a window on the side |
| [05:10:00] | Yellow-Snow: | but have it right there? |
| [05:10:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont understand |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | i just bought the xbox |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | 2days ago |
| [05:10:00] | dev-: | lol your bedroom must be noisy as hell |
| [05:10:00] | samborambo: | thanks guys....my DVI cable is pretty short so I'm limited as to how far away I can move the mythbox from the TV.....I'll give it a go :) |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | nope |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | cant hear shit |
| [05:11:00] | dev-: | when you grow up you'll want to make things quiet and use the least amount of space as possible in your home theatre |
| [05:11:00] | dev-: | grow up like i mean having your own living room, moving out of your parents house, etc |
| [05:11:00] | dev-: | :P |
| [05:11:00] | harryk: | samborambo, seriously... give the foil a go .. but DONT cover the vents |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | i dont live with my parents |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | i live by myself |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf01061um.jpg |
| [05:11:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.members.cox.net/danielarbour/DSC00543.JPG |
| [05:12:00] | a1fa: | why do you have the keyboard there? |
| [05:12:00] | a1fa: | dev- : I will be moving to xbox-frontend in 5days |
| [05:12:00] | a1fa: | as soon as i get the mod chip |
| [05:12:00] | harryk: | nice |
| [05:12:00] | harryk: | let us know how that works out |
| [05:12:00] | dev-: | xbox is too noisy |
| [05:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | b/c i was still installing it all |
| [05:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | keyboard is long gone |
| [05:13:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im actually at my uncles |
| [05:13:00] | Yellow-Snow: | let me take a pic |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | dude |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | i cant hear it |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | i work @ a data center |
| [05:13:00] | dev-: | maybe you're deaf/ |
| [05:13:00] | dev-: | ah |
| [05:13:00] | dev-: | :P |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | its silence for me |
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| [05:14:00] | a1fa: | my backend is not starting |
| [05:14:00] | a1fa: | i wonder why |
| [05:14:00] | dev-: | it hates you. |
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| [05:15:00] | ** harryk notices dev-'s hostile this evening ;) ** | |
| [05:15:00] | a1fa: | 2006-02–28 23:04:39.065 ChannelBase: Could not find input: Tuner on card when setting channel 8 |
| [05:15:00] | a1fa: | i think i pluged the cable in the wrong hole |
| [05:15:00] | a1fa: | pvr500 has that fm |
| [05:15:00] | harryk: | whats wrong dev .. no nookie this evening? |
| [05:15:00] | dev-: | wouldnt give you that error |
| [05:15:00] | a1fa: | fm is on the right, no? |
| [05:15:00] | harryk: | top |
| [05:15:00] | harryk: | fm is on top |
| [05:15:00] | harryk: | cable/antennae is on lower coax input |
| [05:16:00] | dev-: | harryk: heh, actually, no, she had to close tonight so just got home a little bit ago, but has to be in early tomrorow so had to go right to bed |
| [05:16:00] | dev-: | so no nookie ;/ |
| [05:16:00] | harryk: | sucks |
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| [05:16:00] | harryk: | i'm working tomorrow night .. anyone in the milwaukee area? |
| [05:16:00] | dev-: | over in new jersey here. |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa: | damn it |
| [05:17:00] | harryk: | come keep me company tomorrow night while I bounce and I'll buy you a beer |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa: | it wont tell me why it wont start mythtvdb |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa: | it wont tell me why it wont start mythtv backend |
| [05:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.members.cox.net/danielarbour/DSC00573.JPG |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa: | http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/3214/dscf01088ex.jpg |
| [05:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thats right now b/c i moved into my uncles for 3 weeks |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa: | wow |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa: | nice screen |
| [05:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol thats my uncles |
| [05:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its crap |
| [05:18:00] | harryk: | haha |
| [05:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its and old screen if u ask me |
| [05:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | my dads owns it |
| [05:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | sometimes it has waves across b/c its old and idk whats the deal w/ the pvr hooked up to it |
| [05:20:00] | harryk: | xris, thanks for the help, it looks like its transcoding now, so I'll check it in the morning .. I thought the commercial flagging automagically removed the comms, but this will do .. thanks agin |
| [05:20:00] | harryk: | i'm out all |
| [05:20:00] | harryk: | bedtime for early rising to work |
| [05:20:00] | harryk: | g'night |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa: | later man |
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| [05:21:00] | a1fa: | i have to get up early too |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa: | so i can go ride my bike at 6:00 AM |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa: | before the crazy working people getup |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa: | and try to run me over |
| [05:22:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wow |
| [05:22:00] | Yellow-Snow: | if its before 12 |
| [05:22:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont get out of bed |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | 12 noon? |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | lucky you |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | i have to be @ work at 8 |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | slavin' for the man! |
| [05:24:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ppfft |
| [05:24:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [05:24:00] | Beirdo: | my server lag shot up there for a few |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | omg |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | bittorrents blow |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i swear |
| [05:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody by chance got a lircrc handy for a hauppauge grey? |
| [05:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rafb.net/paste if you could please |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | Yellow-Snow : how old r u |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 20 |
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| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | college? |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yup |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | hehe |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | i remember those days |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | dude it owns |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | if i didnt feel like waking up :) i just sleep in |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i cant wait for my check from the gov |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | hahaha |
| [05:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i want to buy a toyota corolla s black |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | nice |
| [05:26:00] | dev-: | my fiance got one of those |
| [05:26:00] | a1fa: | i pay so you can drive in stile |
| [05:26:00] | dev-: | car looks ince |
| [05:26:00] | dev-: | but its slow as hell |
| [05:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | tops + grants = make money |
| [05:26:00] | a1fa: | Yellow-Snow : A student? |
| [05:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | while going to college |
| [05:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
| [05:26:00] | a1fa: | good for you |
| [05:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i make more for going to school then working more hours |
| [05:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thats fed up |
| [05:28:00] | Yellow-Snow: | what does everyone use to download movies? |
| [05:29:00] | dev-: | lftp |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | omg |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i wish i had an ftp server |
| [05:29:00] | dev-: | wtfbbq |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i used to have some hackers ftp what was loaded |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | god that was the shit |
| [05:29:00] | Beirdo: | Yellow-Snow, we officially don't download movies... That's illegal |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | dude |
| [05:29:00] | Beirdo: | you MPAA mole :) |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im talking about homemade movies |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | for drama |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | du! |
| [05:30:00] | Yellow-Snow: | idk what are you talking about.. al illegal stuff |
| [05:30:00] | Beirdo: | I use firewire for that |
| [05:31:00] | dev-: | whats with the excessive use of acronyms |
| [05:32:00] | Yellow-Snow: | damn headlights into the window sitting there is freaky as hell |
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| [05:32:00] | Beirdo: | put down the bong ;) |
| [05:32:00] | Agrajag-: | "they are" or "they're" not "there" |
| [05:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol beirdo |
| [05:33:00] | dev-: | college eh.. |
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| [05:34:00] | Yellow-Snow: | give me 0's and 1's.. ill speak that way.. f english grammer |
| [05:34:00] | Beirdo: | oh damn, I was gonna run the dishwasher... too late now, it's bedtime |
| [05:34:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? why cant u |
| [05:34:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i always run it and let it dry for a day |
| [05:35:00] | Beirdo: | because I'm going to bed |
| [05:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its not loaded? to loud? |
| [05:35:00] | Beirdo: | too lazy |
| [05:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | so its not loaded |
| [05:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [05:35:00] | Beirdo: | night all |
| [05:35:00] | a1fa: | night |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | i still have a 1.4Ghz Athlon chip that i need to reuse |
| [05:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | for a frontend eh? |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa: | no |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa: | a desktop maybe |
| [05:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 700 mhz ok for a front end? |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa: | more then enough |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa: | xbox :P |
| [05:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh really? |
| [05:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | f xbox cost |
| [05:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 150$? |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa: | $129 used |
| [05:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | or if i get one hot.. |
| [05:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol hm.. whats to slow for a frontend? |
| [05:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 300 work? or 500 least |
| [05:39:00] | dev-: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa: | 500mhz will work |
| [05:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm |
| [05:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | when i go to videos right? video list.. i see my videos and on the bototn it has file name and like the commands to run it |
| [05:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | but it dosent line up w/ the background |
| [05:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | any clue why? |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | n? |
| [05:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mythvideo5.png |
| [05:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | like that.. the bottom it has the path name and such.. but mine dosent line up w/ the background |
| [05:48:00] | a1fa: | :( |
| [05:48:00] | a1fa: | dunno |
| [05:48:00] | a1fa: | maybe font |
| [05:48:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm |
| [05:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | maybe i can edit that background to drop it down some? any idea where its saved? |
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| [05:53:00] | a1fa: | damn it |
| [05:53:00] | a1fa: | focus issues here |
| [05:54:00] | a1fa: | 2006-02–28 23:48:34.889 MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 2, exiting |
| [05:54:00] | a1fa: | or not? |
| [05:54:00] | a1fa: | fuck |
| [05:56:00] | samborambo: | I'm having probs apt-getting mythtv-frontend 0.19 |
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| [05:57:00] | a1fa: | samborambo : what is wrong with svn? |
| [05:57:00] | a1fa: | samborambo : are you using the unofficial apt tree? |
| [05:57:00] | samborambo: | the nerim one |
| [05:57:00] | samborambo: | is that right? |
| [05:58:00] | djohnson: | Hey, where does Myth output log messages to? |
| [05:58:00] | samborambo: | mythweather: Depends: mythtv-frontend (>= 0.19–0.0) but it is not going to be installed >> |
| [05:58:00] | samborambo: | E: Broken packages |
| [05:59:00] | samborambo: | ...using the sid branch |
| [05:59:00] | a1fa: | djohnson : /var/log/mythtv/ |
| [06:00:00] | a1fa: | samborambo : use svn |
| [06:00:00] | a1fa: | build from source |
| [06:00:00] | a1fa: | it takes 10min |
| [06:00:00] | djohnson: | thanks a1fa that's what I thought.... now I'll have to figure out why it's NOT ;) |
| [06:00:00] | djohnson: | and samborambo I agree with a1fa Myth's build process is so straight forward, it's far better than trying to muck around with RPMs |
| [06:00:00] | samborambo: | alfa: deb-src? |
| [06:01:00] | a1fa: | no |
| [06:01:00] | a1fa: | svn checkout |
| [06:01:00] | samborambo: | svn? is that like cvs? |
| [06:01:00] | a1fa: | holly hsit my 2nd tuner is missing |
| [06:01:00] | djohnson: | pvr 550? |
| [06:02:00] | djohnson: | Or seperate card? |
| [06:02:00] | a1fa: | ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1), card #0 |
| [06:02:00] | a1fa: | ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2), card #1 |
| [06:03:00] | a1fa: | ivtv: version 0.4.3 (tagged release) loading |
| [06:03:00] | a1fa: | time to fix myth-setup again |
| [06:04:00] | tetrawr: | hey |
| [06:04:00] | a1fa: | who esle has pvr500 |
| [06:04:00] | tetrawr: | i have months worth of recordings and the hard drive will soon be full |
| [06:04:00] | a1fa: | burn2dvd |
| [06:04:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [06:04:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: let me see |
| [06:05:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: i don't seem to have that command? |
| [06:06:00] | djohnson: | a1fa: that seems right? Is it just not showing up in Myth? |
| [06:07:00] | djohnson: | samborambo: Yes, svn is like cvs, in fact it's developed as a replacement for cvs |
| [06:08:00] | a1fa: | tetrawr : no dude.. burn them to a dvd |
| [06:09:00] | tetrawr: | heheh.. that's what i thought |
| [06:09:00] | tetrawr: | easier said than done in linux |
| [06:09:00] | a1fa: | anybody know if you can connect a dvd player to pvr500 |
| [06:09:00] | a1fa: | and have a dedicated channel |
| [06:09:00] | a1fa: | on the tv? |
| [06:09:00] | a1fa: | like COMPOSITE#1 |
| [06:09:00] | a1fa: | i whish I can hookup my XBOX to it, and my DVD player |
| [06:09:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: i have a pvr500 |
| [06:09:00] | Cardoe: | haven't installed it yet |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | its easy |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | make sure you get drivers from source |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | www.ivtvdrivers.org |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | www.ivtvdriver.org |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | make sure you follow their install instructions |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | nah. |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | emerge ivtv |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [06:10:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: could you point me in the right direction? |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | gent00bastard |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | tetrawr : buy a dvd burner |
| [06:10:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: have one |
| [06:10:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [06:11:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: aren't you the one that said debian was better? |
| [06:11:00] | tetrawr: | have a dozen ;) |
| [06:11:00] | a1fa: | apt-cache search dvd burn |
| [06:11:00] | tetrawr: | lol |
| [06:11:00] | a1fa: | dvd+rw-tools – DVD+-RW/R tools |
| [06:11:00] | a1fa: | dvdbackup |
| [06:11:00] | a1fa: | k3b – A sophisticated KDE CD burning application |
| [06:11:00] | tetrawr: | k3b can burn dvd movies? |
| [06:11:00] | a1fa: | graveman – graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based |
| [06:11:00] | a1fa: | maybe |
| [06:12:00] | a1fa: | you got nero? |
| [06:12:00] | tetrawr: | or just .iso |
| [06:12:00] | a1fa: | Encoder 1 is local on mytivo and is not recording. |
| [06:12:00] | a1fa: | Encoder 2 is local on mytivo and is not recording. |
| [06:12:00] | a1fa: | both encoders back online |
| [06:13:00] | a1fa: | sweet |
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| [06:13:00] | tetrawr: | let me look at dvdbackup again |
| [06:14:00] | tetrawr: | ugh |
| [06:15:00] | tetrawr: | can i just encode the mythtv recordings in place so that they'll still be in the library? |
| [06:18:00] | a1fa: | video is a bit choppy here |
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| [06:20:00] | a1fa: | setting using_dma to 1 (on) |
| [06:20:00] | a1fa: | HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted |
| [06:20:00] | a1fa: | using_dma = 0 (off) |
| [06:20:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [06:20:00] | a1fa: | bios needs tweeking |
| [06:20:00] | tetrawr: | can you help me? |
| [06:21:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: or you need to include the module for your IDE chipset correctly in the kernel |
| [06:23:00] | a1fa: | tetrawr : dvd burning? |
| [06:23:00] | tetrawr: | in a useful manner regarding mythtv |
| [06:23:00] | a1fa: | what is your ? |
| [06:23:00] | a1fa: | do you have nero? |
| [06:23:00] | Cardoe: | a1fa: awesome debian.. ;) |
| [06:23:00] | tetrawr: | not just general dvd burning, i know how to put files on a cd/dvd |
| [06:23:00] | a1fa: | and a windows desktop |
| [06:24:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: i could have one available |
| [06:24:00] | a1fa: | ther |
| [06:24:00] | a1fa: | just transfer files to your windows box |
| [06:24:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: what would be better is if I could just encode the recordings and leave them on the hard drive |
| [06:24:00] | a1fa: | and burn them |
| [06:24:00] | a1fa: | well you can transcode them to mpeg4 |
| [06:24:00] | tetrawr: | a1fa: ok, how do I change the .nuv files into .IFO, .BUF, and .VOB files? |
| [06:25:00] | tetrawr: | i'm familiar with nuvexport |
| [06:26:00] | tetrawr: | but nuvexport-dvd just makes .mpg files |
| [06:26:00] | a1fa: | amd74xx + AMD and nVidia IDE support |
| [06:26:00] | a1fa: | its allready loaded |
| [06:27:00] | tetrawr: | ok |
| [06:27:00] | tetrawr: | sorry |
| [06:28:00] | tetrawr: | is there a way to make these files smaller while still leaving them in the mythtv library so that I can view them in the same manner, though the menu? |
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| [06:30:00] | tetrawr: | eh |
| [06:31:00] | a1fa: | time to go to sleep |
| [06:31:00] | a1fa: | my kittie has gone to sleep w/o me |
| [06:31:00] | a1fa: | and he is mewing from the other room |
| [06:31:00] | a1fa: | means i need to go to sleep as well |
| [06:31:00] | a1fa: | i will talk to you guys tomorrow |
| [06:32:00] | tetrawr: | so you don't know |
| [06:33:00] | tetrawr: | have a good one :) |
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| [06:35:00] | a1fa: | ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008–0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA |
| [06:35:00] | Scott: | hi guys |
| [06:36:00] | Scott: | got an odd problem. I've got X configured, but all my TV displays in grey. |
| [06:36:00] | a1fa: | Timing buffered disk reads: 22 MB in 3.22 seconds = 6.82 MB/sec |
| [06:36:00] | a1fa: | wow that sucks |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | i will fix it tomorrow |
| [06:37:00] | tetrawr: | total pants |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | i know what is the problem |
| [06:37:00] | Scott: | nvidia 6600 pci express using 7676 |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | i have ttwo disks |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | primary master and primary slave |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | i have to move one to secondary slave |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | i think one hd is defective |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | so it is messing up |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | the system |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | besides that |
| [06:37:00] | a1fa: | looks good |
| [06:38:00] | tetrawr: | good luck with that |
| [06:38:00] | tetrawr: | glad i have tons of hardware to juggle around for testing stuff like that |
| [06:38:00] | Scott: | I get an error when starting up mythfrontend: VideoOutputXv Error: Couldn't get the color key color |
| [06:38:00] | Scott: | video displays fine on my monitor, but the tv is all grey. X is grey for the tv as well. |
| [06:38:00] | tetrawr: | Scott: i get that all the time, seems meaningless |
| [06:39:00] | Scott: | yah, video on my primary head is fine, but the tv out is all grey scale, figured the two went hand in hand since it refers to the color key. |
| [06:40:00] | a1fa: | bios needs to be updated tomorrow as well |
| [06:40:00] | Scott: | any suggestions on where to poke around? X gives no errors on startup. I'm running 7676 drivers (should I upgrade or are there still problems?) |
| [06:41:00] | tetrawr: | Scott: i also get that error on every other computer I've tried it on, even ones without tv-out |
| [06:42:00] | Scott: | hmmm ok. I guess there must be some misconfig with X then. I goggled a bit, but didn't come up with any really good examples for TwinView and such, anyone have any links? |
| [06:43:00] | Scott: | heh *googled |
| [06:43:00] | Scott: | (or a working xorg.conf) |
| [06:43:00] | tetrawr: | that error might be unrelated, color key color, from your greyscale problem |
| [06:44:00] | tetrawr: | i had it running (with a CRT and tv-out at the same time) on a geforce4 mx4000 |
| [06:44:00] | Scott: | yah, I'm assuming it is unrelated. I only get it when starting mythfrontend. X itself is greyscale on the TV using twinview. |
| [06:44:00] | tetrawr: | and still got that error |
| [06:44:00] | Achew22: | does anyone have any suggestions about what program to use with myth: links? |
| [06:45:00] | Scott: | Unfortunately, the X logs show X starting up just fine. :( |
| [06:45:00] | tetrawr: | i just wanted to stress the possibility so you might not waste time searching for that error in corellation to your problem |
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| [06:45:00] | Scott: | Definitely, thanks. I'm gonna ignore that. :) Any suggestions for TwinView X config docs out there? |
| [06:46:00] | Scott: | Since the video capture works fine and is in color on my primary head, it's just a display problem to the tv. |
| [06:47:00] | tetrawr: | i've done it with twinview in clone mode, but, i don't have that computer plugged in at the moment and I don't remember any links |
| [06:47:00] | tetrawr: | let me try to find something |
| [06:47:00] | Scott: | much appreciated. :) |
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| [06:55:00] | tetrawr: | not finding much yet |
| [06:55:00] | tetrawr: | i know you want twinview and clone mode |
| [06:56:00] | tetrawr: | i assume you already have Option "TwinView" "yes" |
| [06:57:00] | Scott: | sorry, was lookin too. :) Yes, twinview is on |
| [06:57:00] | Scott: | I think the problem is solely X11 is giving me a Grayscale palette for the tvout screen. |
| [06:58:00] | tetrawr: | Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone" |
| [06:58:00] | Scott: | okay right now I have that off |
| [06:58:00] | Scott: | tv is actually working as a second head. |
| [06:59:00] | Scott: | Oh...I wonder if it's the bitdepth |
| [06:59:00] | tetrawr: | are you setting up this computer so you'll only be using the tv-out? doesn't matter whether or not you have a CRT on it |
| [06:59:00] | Scott: | eventually yes |
| [06:59:00] | Scott: | right now, just getting it all working |
| [06:59:00] | tetrawr: | yeah, bit depth :) |
| [06:59:00] | tetrawr: | bits of 1 would give you monochrome, not greyscale |
| [06:59:00] | Scott: | All I have a 24 setting hehe, prolly needs to be 8 |
| [06:59:00] | tetrawr: | no, shouldn't be |
| [06:59:00] | Scott: | hmmm |
| [06:59:00] | tetrawr: | i used 24 just fine |
| [06:59:00] | Scott: | is there a "twinview" option for bitdepth? |
| [07:00:00] | tetrawr: | no, that's set near the modes lines |
| [07:00:00] | tetrawr: | DefaultColorDepth 24 |
| [07:00:00] | Scott: | yah I have that |
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| [07:01:00] | tetrawr: | SubSection "Display" |
| [07:01:00] | tetrawr: | Depth 24 |
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| [07:01:00] | tetrawr: | Modes "2048x1536" "1800x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" |
| [07:02:00] | Scott: | I also have a sub for 16 depth |
| [07:02:00] | tetrawr: | actually on the computer i got it working in clone mode was Modes "640x480" |
| [07:02:00] | Scott: | wonder if it's trying to use that for the tv |
| [07:02:00] | tetrawr: | why? |
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| [07:02:00] | Scott: | hehe...came standard |
| [07:02:00] | tetrawr: | try just one sub for 24, that's all I *ever* use |
| [07:03:00] | tetrawr: | i also needed a line for metamodes to be correct for my setup |
| [07:03:00] | tetrawr: | that took me the most time to get right |
| [07:03:00] | tetrawr: | Option "MetaModes" "1152x864,800x600; 800x600,800x600,800x600; 640x480, 640x480" |
| [07:04:00] | tetrawr: | that's one from a page i'm looking at but I don't think that's right |
| [07:04:00] | tetrawr: | i had to set mine like this, iirc |
| [07:04:00] | Scott: | yah that works for non-cline |
| [07:04:00] | Scott: | *clone |
| [07:04:00] | tetrawr: | Option "MetaModes" "640x480,640x480" |
| [07:04:00] | Scott: | they're just multiple ones to attempt |
| [07:04:00] | Scott: | gonna pair it down now to one res tho in both parts and see if that clears it. |
| [07:05:00] | tetrawr: | yeah |
| [07:05:00] | tetrawr: | i couldn't get any combination other than plain 640x480 to work |
| [07:05:00] | tetrawr: | 800x600 just virtualed |
| [07:06:00] | tetrawr: | even though I wasn't using virtual and i tried viewport 0 |
| [07:06:00] | Scott: | yah my tv supports 1024x768 |
| [07:06:00] | tetrawr: | mine will do that too but it's too blurry for any text |
| [07:06:00] | Scott: | but I'm gonna knock it down to get it working |
| [07:06:00] | tetrawr: | 640x480 is just fine for mythtv |
| [07:07:00] | tetrawr: | i use 2048x1536 on this crt |
| [07:07:00] | Scott: | what I really want is 640x480 on the tv and normal 1680x1050 on my primary |
| [07:07:00] | Scott: | so that'll be the next thing to attempt. hehe |
| [07:08:00] | tetrawr: | wuxga laptop? |
| [07:08:00] | Scott: | dell 2005FPW head |
| [07:09:00] | Scott: | (24" wide) |
| [07:09:00] | tetrawr: | oh |
| [07:09:00] | tetrawr: | lcd? |
| [07:09:00] | Scott: | yah |
| [07:09:00] | Scott: | very nice |
| [07:09:00] | Scott: | 12ms |
| [07:09:00] | tetrawr: | k |
| [07:10:00] | Scott: | home folks I think can still get them there for ~550 |
| [07:10:00] | tetrawr: | i couldn't get mythtv to use the second head |
| [07:10:00] | Scott: | with twinview it pops up as an option |
| [07:10:00] | Scott: | in the appearance settings |
| [07:10:00] | Scott: | okay...gonna give this a go |
| [07:10:00] | Scott: | I'll pop back in and let you know if it was successful, appreciate all your help! |
| [07:10:00] | tetrawr: | how do i go into edit mode? |
| [07:11:00] | Scott: | edit mode where? |
| [07:11:00] | tetrawr: | in mythtv |
| [07:11:00] | Scott: | if you have twinview non clone up, you can get to the option for which head to put it on in Setup > Appearances |
| [07:12:00] | tetrawr: | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythFeatures |
| [07:12:00] | tetrawr: | third row of pictures |
| [07:13:00] | Scott: | hmmm, that's a new one on me |
| [07:14:00] | Scott: | I imagine once you've got a video up, there's a key binding for it, possibly only available if you have the commercial stuff on. |
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| [07:14:00] | Scott: | I think you should be able to get to it from the menu when playing back tho |
| [07:14:00] | intruz: | what tv-out cards do you guys use? |
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| [07:15:00] | Scott: | nvideo 6600 |
| [07:15:00] | Scott: | bah nvidia |
| [07:15:00] | tetrawr: | 6600 GT |
| [07:15:00] | tetrawr: | i'm not using it for tv-out though |
| [07:15:00] | thechris: | 4000mx or such |
| [07:15:00] | Scott: | Thanks again Tetrawr :) I'll be back |
| [07:15:00] | tetrawr: | i have an mx4000 too |
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| [07:15:00] | intruz: | do those just basically plug in |
| [07:16:00] | intruz: | just like a monitor |
| [07:16:00] | tetrawr: | uh |
| [07:16:00] | tetrawr: | a video card? |
| [07:16:00] | intruz: | no |
| [07:16:00] | intruz: | i didnt phrase that right |
| [07:16:00] | tetrawr: | didn't think you did |
| [07:16:00] | intruz: | does the tv hook up to the card the same way as a monitor |
| [07:16:00] | thechris: | i plugged my tv into my vidcard and it just worked |
| [07:17:00] | tetrawr: | s-video, yes.. |
| [07:17:00] | intruz: | ok |
| [07:17:00] | intruz: | i have an fx5200 right now |
| [07:17:00] | tetrawr: | and it's configured in xorg.conf just like another monitor |
| [07:17:00] | thechris: | my card has no fancy svideo, just composite |
| [07:17:00] | intruz: | i have a converter |
| [07:17:00] | intruz: | that came with my card |
| [07:17:00] | tetrawr: | thechris: they call the three-connector video "composite" |
| [07:18:00] | intruz: | little 4 prong thing has a circular thing on the other side of the cable |
| [07:18:00] | tetrawr: | 4 prong is svideo |
| [07:18:00] | thechris: | mine has an actual RCA jack for composite video on the card. no svideo to comp adaptor |
| [07:19:00] | intruz: | i guess the other side is rca |
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| [07:19:00] | intruz: | i hate a/v cables |
| [07:19:00] | tetrawr: | thechris: you know the new kind with three rca connectors for video? like, yellow, green, blue |
| [07:20:00] | intruz: | mine are yellow/red/white |
| [07:20:00] | thechris: | tetrawr: have not seen that. unless you mean composite video + stereo sound |
| [07:20:00] | tetrawr: | intruz: that's rca, composite has red/white and yellow/green/blue |
| [07:20:00] | intruz: | ah |
| [07:21:00] | tetrawr: | then there those funny people that call that coax |
| [07:21:00] | intruz: | i tried hooking up my uncles a/v stuff |
| [07:21:00] | intruz: | it reminded me how much i hate a/v cables |
| [07:21:00] | intruz: | so many cables |
| [07:22:00] | tetrawr: | i hate stupid entertainment centers that give you no access to the back of a tv |
| [07:22:00] | intruz: | all these inputs |
| [07:22:00] | intruz: | i think we should run everything over cat5 |
| [07:22:00] | intruz: | makes everything much simpler |
| [07:22:00] | thechris: | hmm. wikipedia seems to think "composite video" is just video w/o the sound. |
| [07:23:00] | intruz: | is there some adapter i can get that will take soundcard output and change it to rca |
| [07:23:00] | thechris: | intruz: sure |
| [07:23:00] | intruz: | ok |
| [07:23:00] | intruz: | i just need the tv speakers for now |
| [07:24:00] | thechris: | you can usually find them at $1 stores |
| [07:24:00] | intruz: | nice |
| [07:24:00] | intruz: | ill check radioshack |
| [07:24:00] | thechris: | or radioshack for $5 |
| [07:24:00] | intruz: | typical radioshack] |
| [07:24:00] | intruz: | always screwing customers |
| [07:24:00] | intruz: | but i dont feel like going through a dollar store |
| [07:25:00] | intruz: | i never have look with those places |
| [07:25:00] | intruz: | luck* |
| [07:25:00] | thechris: | i buy speaker wire there |
| [07:25:00] | tetrawr: | i'm still trying to find a solution with mythtv to either make recordings take up less space or to put them on DVDs |
| [07:25:00] | thechris: | 50ft, copper, 18g, $1 |
| [07:25:00] | thechris: | tetrawr: maybe use transcoding? |
| [07:26:00] | intruz: | im not going to get a capture card until i switch to hd |
| [07:26:00] | intruz: | i figure it isnt worth spending the money just to get another card |
| [07:27:00] | tetrawr: | thechris: i just noticed mythtv is saving .mpg files in /var/video |
| [07:27:00] | thechris: | tetrawr: is that what you set it too? |
| [07:27:00] | tetrawr: | thechris: any simple way to make that into .VOB, .IFO, and .BUF files appropriate for a dvd video? |
| [07:28:00] | tetrawr: | thechris: yeah, i think i set mythtv to save in DVD format |
| [07:28:00] | thechris: | tetrawr: oh, and i found the thing with 3 video cables "component" video. "composite" only has one. |
| [07:28:00] | tetrawr: | thechris: oops, i was wrong |
| [07:28:00] | thechris: | tetrawr: i think there are a few things out there for mythtv for DVD recording |
| [07:28:00] | thechris: | i think they are plugins even |
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| [07:30:00] | tetrawr: | i seem to remember mythburn but it's not available it seems |
| [07:30:00] | Scott: | well after further investigation, something is screwy with the svideo signal cause even the startup console stuff is all greyscale. |
| [07:30:00] | Scott: | don't think it's my cable |
| [07:30:00] | Scott: | know it's not the tv |
| [07:30:00] | Scott: | don't have a spare video card. /sigh |
| [07:30:00] | tetrawr: | Scott: have anything else that uses svideo to try? |
| [07:31:00] | tetrawr: | some video game console |
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| [07:34:00] | tetrawr: | i found how to manually edit recordings |
| [07:35:00] | tetrawr: | start viewing a recording and press the E key |
| [07:37:00] | tetrawr: | *sigh* |
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| [07:37:00] | tetrawr: | now i have to guess what to do to actually finalize the cuts out |
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| [07:40:00] | tetrawr: | http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/editmode-insert.jpg |
| [07:40:00] | tetrawr: | anyone know how to actually cut the red sections out? |
| [07:45:00] | tetrawr: | i didn't know you could run mythbackend on more than one computer |
| [07:45:00] | tetrawr: | together |
| [07:46:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm having a problem with mythmusic .19.. My music is stored on an external vfat hard drive, but every time I go into mythmusic, it scans for music, but doesn't find anything |
| [07:46:00] | tetrawr: | but i still don't see anything about the actual trimming of commercials |
| [07:50:00] | tetrawr: | nevermind, found it, had to press E again to stop editing, THEN x |
| [07:50:00] | intruz: | so if my tv only has the rca jacks |
| [07:50:00] | intruz: | then which would be better to get |
| [07:50:00] | intruz: | a card with composite or s-video |
| [07:51:00] | Scott: | if you don't have svideo, then composite |
| [07:51:00] | intruz: | ok |
| [07:51:00] | Scott: | (composite == rca jacks) |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | intruz: composite is "rca jacks" |
| [07:51:00] | intruz: | oh ok |
| [07:51:00] | intruz: | see all these terms confuse me |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | intruz: but the "svideo" port on many video cards is actuall svideo + composite |
| [07:51:00] | intruz: | i wish they would use the same term |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | and they come with an adapter |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | intruz: rca refers to the plug |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | composite refers to the signal |
| [07:51:00] | intruz: | ah |
| [07:51:00] | intruz: | ok |
| [07:52:00] | Scott: | anyone ever heard of needing to set the svideo out on an nvidia card so it was something other than grayscale? |
| [07:52:00] | intruz: | thanks for clearing that up |
| [07:52:00] | xris: | intruz: my new video card has an "svideo" plug and a breakout box that does svideo, composite and component |
| [07:52:00] | Scott: | I'm grasping at straws...hoping the card isn't screwed. |
| [07:52:00] | intruz: | i have an nvidia fx5200 that has s-video out then it has a composite adapter |
| [07:53:00] | intruz: | im guessing that will work fine for mythtv? |
| [07:53:00] | Scott: | should yah |
| [07:53:00] | intruz: | ok |
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| [07:54:00] | intruz: | does the amount of memory on the videocard effect the playback if all you are doing is like simple stuff |
| [07:54:00] | tetrawr: | i'd be more concerned that the CPU and RAM are fast enough |
| [07:55:00] | intruz: | ok |
| [07:55:00] | intruz: | if i was going to playback some videos that are encoded in divx what would be the minimum ram/cpu speed |
| [07:56:00] | tetrawr: | i got some choppiness on a P3 700 with 512 MB of ram |
| [07:56:00] | tetrawr: | i think the problem was the 700 not the 512 |
| [07:56:00] | intruz: | yeah |
| [07:56:00] | intruz: | i have a 1ghz celeron |
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| [07:57:00] | intruz: | well that is the box i would like to use anyways |
| [07:57:00] | tetrawr: | flavor of linux? |
| [07:57:00] | intruz: | i prefer gentoo |
| [07:57:00] | tetrawr: | ok, make sure your kernel is set for P3/celeron not 586 ;) |
| [07:57:00] | intruz: | heh |
| [07:57:00] | intruz: | yeah |
| [07:57:00] | tetrawr: | and march=pentium3 |
| [07:57:00] | tetrawr: | i think |
| [07:57:00] | intruz: | it has 384mb of ram |
| [07:58:00] | tetrawr: | should be fine |
| [07:58:00] | intruz: | ok |
| [07:58:00] | tetrawr: | you aren't running the backend on that too, are you? |
| [07:58:00] | intruz: | yeah i was going to run both on the same machine |
| [07:58:00] | tetrawr: | i wouldn't try watching and recording at the same time |
| [07:58:00] | intruz: | no recording |
| [07:59:00] | intruz: | i just want to play back dvd's i have ripped to divx |
| [07:59:00] | tetrawr: | er, well, that's what livetv is |
| [07:59:00] | tetrawr: | ... |
| [07:59:00] | tetrawr: | i don't think you need mythtv then |
| [07:59:00] | intruz: | i dont like to put in dvd's |
| [07:59:00] | tetrawr: | i'd use mplayer |
| [07:59:00] | intruz: | i like the interface |
| [08:00:00] | tetrawr: | my favorite xvid/other file player |
| [08:00:00] | intruz: | being able to select videos |
| [08:00:00] | intruz: | and have the music available as well |
| [08:00:00] | tetrawr: | i'd rather use ls and tab completion.. |
| [08:00:00] | intruz: | yeah |
| [08:00:00] | tetrawr: | if it's just you |
| [08:00:00] | intruz: | but the rest of my family isnt as unix oriented |
| [08:00:00] | tetrawr: | but if you have non-computer guests i could understand it |
| [08:01:00] | tetrawr: | family, well, i'd train them, should only take a few minutes |
| [08:01:00] | intruz: | yeah |
| [08:01:00] | intruz: | but what i saw in the screenshots looked really cool |
| [08:01:00] | tetrawr: | yeah |
| [08:01:00] | intruz: | as opposed to a terminal |
| [08:01:00] | tetrawr: | yeah, i'm sure you'll grow to use more than just that |
| [08:02:00] | tetrawr: | you can make a terminal look like anything you want |
| [08:02:00] | intruz: | i know |
| [08:02:00] | intruz: | i use linux everyday |
| [08:02:00] | tetrawr: | but i'm sure you'll use all the other plugins eventually if you do have mythtv |
| [08:02:00] | intruz: | yeah |
| [08:02:00] | intruz: | i was going to eventually setup something capable of recording |
| [08:03:00] | intruz: | but i wanted to wait till we switched to hd |
| [08:03:00] | intruz: | and i got a new computer so i could use this one |
| [08:05:00] | tetrawr: | i see, that computer isn't available for mythtv yet |
| [08:05:00] | intruz: | no unfortunately |
| [08:06:00] | intruz: | it would be perfect too |
| [08:06:00] | tetrawr: | i doubt that computer is worth $100 |
| [08:06:00] | intruz: | the one i am on is worth 100 |
| [08:06:00] | tetrawr: | without the monitor |
| [08:07:00] | intruz: | 2.2ghz athlon 2x120 gig hdd's 2x 256mb of ram pc3200 |
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| [08:07:00] | tetrawr: | i meant the celeron 1ghz |
| [08:07:00] | intruz: | oh |
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| [08:07:00] | intruz: | yeah |
| [08:07:00] | intruz: | that thing 1ghz celeron/60 gig hdd/384 mv of ram |
| [08:08:00] | intruz: | mb* |
| [08:08:00] | intruz: | i figured it would be a decent box for that though |
| [08:08:00] | intruz: | then i could start ripping all my dvd's to divx |
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| [08:08:00] | intruz: | i could probably put at least 10 |
| [08:08:00] | tetrawr: | i wish commercial flagging worked 100%, then i could enable automatic transcoding |
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| [08:09:00] | tetrawr: | intruz: I'd rather download than rip dvds |
| [08:09:00] | intruz: | i guess there isnt anything wrong when you have the copies |
| [08:09:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm having a problem with mythmusic .19.. My music is stored on an external vfat hard drive, but every time I go into mythmusic, it scans for music, but doesn't find anything |
| [08:09:00] | intruz: | JoeyJoeJo, is it mounted |
| [08:10:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yup |
| [08:10:00] | intruz: | hmm |
| [08:10:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I can play music as the same user in other apps, but not mythmusic |
| [08:11:00] | intruz: | hmm |
| [08:11:00] | intruz: | cant help you then |
| [08:11:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | dang |
| [08:11:00] | intruz: | not a mythtv guru |
| [08:11:00] | tetrawr: | how can i find out what the files actually are in /var/video? |
| [08:11:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ls /var/video |
| [08:12:00] | tetrawr: | better yet, how to make mythtv not use a useless naming convention |
| [08:12:00] | intruz: | cant you play them |
| [08:12:00] | tetrawr: | nope |
| [08:12:00] | tetrawr: | mplayer says vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()! |
| [08:12:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | are you ssh'ed into the box? |
| [08:14:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I get that error when i'm ssh'ed and I try to start a gui app |
| [08:14:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | if you have aalib installed you can try mplayer -vo aa |
| [08:14:00] | tetrawr: | damn thing won't transcode.. i hit X and it says "transcoding" in the upper left but it's not happening, load average stays 0.00 |
| [08:15:00] | tetrawr: | JoeyJoeJo: er heh, i forgot about that |
| [08:16:00] | tetrawr: | i wonder if I can't tell it to transcode from mythfrontend on a remote computer |
| [08:16:00] | tetrawr: | anyway, isn't there a command line interface for showing what all the files are? |
| [08:16:00] | tetrawr: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2335256576 Feb 28 20:00 2041_20060228190000.mpg |
| [08:16:00] | tetrawr: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1989322816 Feb 28 16:51 2007_20060228160027.mpg |
| [08:16:00] | tetrawr: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2334609472 Feb 28 16:00 2004_20060228150001.mpg |
| [08:16:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | what do you mean by showing what the files ar? |
| [08:17:00] | tetrawr: | that's rather useless names |
| [08:17:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | do you mean what shows those are? |
| [08:17:00] | tetrawr: | *yes* |
| [08:17:00] | tetrawr: | what shows are these files? |
| [08:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | well, the first file was recroded from channel 41 on 02-28–06 |
| [08:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I think at 7:00 |
| [08:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | pm |
| [08:18:00] | tetrawr: | got it |
| [08:18:00] | tetrawr: | so what's the name of the show and title? |
| [08:19:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I don't know.. what did you record at 7:00 tonight on channel 41? |
| [08:20:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | do you have mythweb installed? |
| [08:20:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | or can you fire up mythfrontend? |
| [08:21:00] | tetrawr: | i know there is some way to do it on the command line, i've done it before but don't remember the command |
| [08:21:00] | opello: | odd, my filenames are in 3 groups |
| [08:22:00] | opello: | or is this fancy new 0.19 |
| [08:22:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | my guess would be that it has something to do with mysql |
| [08:22:00] | tetrawr: | supposely some script to do the dirty work of renaming them to something that makes more sense but I never could get it to work |
| [08:22:00] | tetrawr: | 0.19.1 i think |
| [08:22:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yeah, knoppmyth has that enabled |
| [08:23:00] | tetrawr: | i don't think any amount of using mythtv is ever going to make me like sql |
| [08:23:00] | samborambo: | I just upgraded to 0.19 . The frontend was working fine until I compiled and installed the plugins: |
| [08:23:00] | samborambo: | 2006-03–01 21:26:06.885 Upgrading to MythVideo schema version 1007 |
| [08:24:00] | samborambo: | then a Seg Fault |
| [08:24:00] | opello: | tetrawr: i can give you a bit that works for 0.18 that you should be able to modify with a little effort if you want |
| [08:24:00] | tetrawr: | opello: ok.. |
| [08:25:00] | opello: | tetrawr: http://pastebin.com/578024 since i'm not on 0.19 yet i don't know the db setup :/ |
| [08:26:00] | tetrawr: | i think it's the same |
| [08:26:00] | tetrawr: | i upgraded from 0.18 and didn't have to do anything |
| [08:26:00] | opello: | the the file name just uses chanid_starttime.mpg? |
| [08:26:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | opello: yeah, I'm pretty sure thats all a .19 file is |
| [08:27:00] | opello: | ok, i guess i'll change it a bit and you can try it |
| [08:27:00] | tetrawr: | opello: first of all, mythtv records to .mpg files in /var/video here |
| [08:27:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | as far as I understand, the .nuv files of .18 and the .mpg files of .19 are the same thing with a different name |
| [08:28:00] | opello: | yeah, i have a hardware encoder, so it's an mpeg2-ps in my nuv files |
| [08:28:00] | tetrawr: | JoeyJoeJo: i thought it was because i changed the recorder to DVD format |
| [08:29:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | no, what you did changed the bitrate and resolution of the files you record to match dvd specifcations |
| [08:29:00] | opello: | tetrawr: 'update': http://pastebin.com/578026 |
| [08:31:00] | opello: | just be in your /var/video dir when you run it, and you should be ok if the query works |
| [08:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | opello: that actually changes the file name, right? |
| [08:31:00] | opello: | no, just displays |
| [08:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ah, ok |
| [08:31:00] | opello: | he just wanted to know, right? |
| [08:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | right |
| [08:31:00] | opello: | heh, ok :) |
| [08:32:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yup, it works alright |
| [08:32:00] | opello: | cool |
| [08:33:00] | tetrawr: | opello: thanks, that works |
| [08:33:00] | opello: | glad to hear it |
| [08:34:00] | tetrawr: | now if i can just get it to actually /remove/ the commercials from the files |
| [08:34:00] | opello: | if you mark them in edit mode, nuvexport :) |
| [08:34:00] | opello: | or maybe there's a new way with 0.19, i should look into updating |
| [08:35:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | can you make nuvexport a user job? |
| [08:36:00] | opello: | i rarely archive stuff (record and burn for friends if i do) so i just run it manually – but i imagine you could write something that does it – but probably not out of the box |
| [08:37:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | gotcha |
| [08:38:00] | tetrawr: | opello: i'm using E to edit, moving the marks around, pressing E to stop editing, then X to transcode |
| [08:39:00] | tetrawr: | opello: the docs on the web site say transcoding cuts according to commercial flags |
| [08:39:00] | opello: | oh, cool |
| [08:39:00] | tetrawr: | but when i hit X, it seems like nothing happens after it says "transcoding" in the upper left |
| [08:39:00] | opello: | i've never used that transcoding thing |
| [08:39:00] | tetrawr: | i used nuvexport a long time ago with 0.18 but it took six hours and didn't work |
| [08:40:00] | Dibblah: | Is anyone else pointed at 28.2E? |
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| [08:43:00] | tetrawr: | Dibblah: what? |
| [08:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody here know lvm well? |
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| [08:47:00] | Juski: | I think Dibblah means he's having problems using DVB-S, particularly the European Astra satellites |
| [08:50:00] | Dibblah: | Not problems, exactly – Just wondering if anyone else is seeing certain transponders (the HD ones) yet? |
| [08:51:00] | Dibblah: | And thanks for the translation :) |
| [08:52:00] | Juski: | ahhh. I recently saw a page detailing the transponder/sat details for free to view HD in Europe |
| [08:54:00] | tetrawr: | 134 GB of files are allowed to autoexpire |
| [08:54:00] | tetrawr: | can i delete those somehow? |
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| [08:57:00] | Juski: | live tv recordings will expire after 1 day by defaut |
| [08:58:00] | Scott: | hey tetrawr you still up? |
| [08:58:00] | Scott: | Well, I'll share my good news regardless. :) |
| [08:58:00] | Juski: | and the rest can be deleted either from the 'watch recordings' or 'delete recordings' screens |
| [08:59:00] | Juski: | (or they'll naturally expire according to your expiration rules) |
| [08:59:00] | Scott: | Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" fixed the problem. Apparently my card is defaulted to composite which makes the svideo signal go grayscale. |
| [08:59:00] | Scott: | (that's for the xorg.conf file btw) |
| [09:00:00] | tetrawr: | Scott: yeah |
| [09:00:00] | Scott: | At any rate, there's something for a FAQ somewhere. Was a real tough one to find. |
| [09:00:00] | tetrawr: | Scott: i needed that too, but it seemed too obvious |
| [09:00:00] | tetrawr: | Scott: now i remember adding "svideo" to my google search |
| [09:01:00] | tetrawr: | Scott: glad you fixed it |
| [09:01:00] | tetrawr: | Juski: i found that I must have set it to 7 days |
| [09:01:00] | tetrawr: | Juski: i changed it to 1 |
| [09:02:00] | tetrawr: | when will that take effect? |
| [09:02:00] | Scott: | Nite all |
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| [09:02:00] | Juski: | tetrawr: expiration takes place at intervals you specify, as far as normal recordings are concerned |
| [09:04:00] | phar0e: | greetings |
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| [09:21:00] | phar0e: | my cable company is so retarded |
| [09:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol your not the only one :) |
| [09:29:00] | tetrawr: | Juski: all of the recordings allowed to expire were from livetv |
| [09:29:00] | tetrawr: | Juski: i'd prefer that livetv just expire immediately |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody here use nvidia for tvout? |
| [09:30:00] | tetrawr: | i have |
| [09:30:00] | tetrawr: | but not now |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am just trying to figure out why my entire image is shifted down |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have about a half inch black bar at the top of my TV |
| [09:30:00] | tetrawr: | zoom? |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nothing is there at all |
| [09:30:00] | tetrawr: | use nvidia-settings i think |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the rest is fine |
| [09:31:00] | tetrawr: | i was able to adjust some stuff but still had some cut off past the bottom |
| [09:31:00] | tetrawr: | are you using 8178? |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
| [09:32:00] | tetrawr: | 6629? |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 7676 I think |
| [09:33:00] | tetrawr: | oh, i never tried that |
| [09:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they are very stable drivers :) |
| [09:33:00] | tetrawr: | any way to trigger expiration now? |
| [09:33:00] | tetrawr: | i need about 134 gigs of crap to just "go away" now :) |
| [09:33:00] | Juski: | what video mode you using? for NTSC, use as close to 720x480 as possible, and for PAL use as close to 720x576 as possible ;-) |
| [09:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [09:34:00] | Juski: | tetrawr: you should just be able to delete them. Maybe 0.19 allows whole groups to be deleted now |
| [09:34:00] | tetrawr: | Juski: it doesn't let me delete them, and livetv doesn't show up in the recordings menu. |
| [09:34:00] | tetrawr: | but they are clearly there in /var/video |
| [09:34:00] | tetrawr: | i just don't want to manually rm 119 recordings |
| [09:35:00] | Juski: | livetv will only show up in the recordings menu if you enable that recording group to be shown. press M while in the watch/delete recordings screen |
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| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | even with 720x480 its off Juski :/ |
| [09:40:00] | tetrawr: | yes, much better now |
| [09:41:00] | tetrawr: | SlicerDicer-: have you tried nvidia-settings? |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fixin too |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok well I would if it did not segfault lol |
| [09:42:00] | eiggirC: | where abouts are recording groups setup? |
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| [09:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | updating driver tetrawr to try to get it to work heh |
| [09:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 6629 was not my favorite driver anyway |
| [09:47:00] | hydroksyde: | good evening people |
| [09:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hello hydroksyde |
| [09:48:00] | hydroksyde: | i'm developing a linux distro for appliances |
| [09:49:00] | hydroksyde: | based around mythtv |
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| [09:49:00] | hydroksyde: | anyway |
| [09:49:00] | hydroksyde: | i was wondering if there is a mythtv plugin out there for configuring system settings |
| [09:50:00] | hydroksyde: | most notable |
| [09:50:00] | hydroksyde: | notably |
| [09:50:00] | hydroksyde: | network settings |
| [09:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn that anti flicker is nice tetrawr in nvidia-settings |
| [09:51:00] | hydroksyde: | nvidia->good++; |
| [09:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no shit hehe |
| [09:52:00] | greg_: | Juski i got my pvr500 recording at 720x576 without crashing, I moved from Breezy badger Ubuntu to Drapper Drake and reinstalled everything. So something somewhere got fixed :) |
| [09:52:00] | greg_: | thanks for letting me know it ought to work |
| [09:55:00] | Dibblah: | Okay. That explains why I can't see the new Sky transponders. They're DVB-S2. |
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| [09:58:00] | otwin: | hydroksyde: never saw such a thing |
| [09:59:00] | hydroksyde: | I might have to write one then |
| [09:59:00] | hydroksyde: | must keep the user trapped in mythtv |
| [10:03:00] | otwin: | hydroksyde: i hope it will be GPL ;-) |
| [10:03:00] | hydroksyde: | sure |
| [10:04:00] | hydroksyde: | GPL, or BSD, depending on how trivial it is |
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| [10:10:00] | Gumby: | I'm trying to use mythtranscode and the command I am using is "mythtranscode -i /storage/mythtv/recordings/1009_20060223195000.mpg -o /storage/videos/americal_idol.mpg --showprogress" and I get the following error "2006-03–01 02:09:28.694 Unknown video codec:" |
| [10:10:00] | Gumby: | anyone have any idea how to fix this? |
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| [10:20:00] | Juski: | Gumby: google is your best pal on that issue |
| [10:21:00] | Gumby: | Juski: I think I found it in the #mythtv-users log |
| [10:22:00] | Gumby: | allthough in searching I see that mythtranscode is really not what I want/need |
| [10:22:00] | Gumby: | allthough in this specific case it will work |
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| [10:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn now if I could solve this LIRC problem heh |
| [10:23:00] | Dibblah: | irxevent. Solved. ;) |
| [10:23:00] | Juski: | Gumby: you just wanna make a commercial-free mpeg2? use the new 'lossless' transcoder ;-) |
| [10:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well Dibblah when I press a button sometimes it works sometimes it does not |
| [10:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | heh |
| [10:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kinda a pain in the ass |
| [10:24:00] | Dibblah: | What does irw say? |
| [10:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it randomly shows up |
| [10:24:00] | Gumby: | Juski: I am looking to trim the size of a recording so its faster for the gf to download them from me |
| [10:24:00] | Dibblah: | Use irrecord to record your own conf file for your remote. |
| [10:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Dibblah: errm |
| [10:25:00] | Gumby: | commercial-free isnt a priority right now |
| [10:25:00] | Dibblah: | (Timings may be slightly off for your reciever, etc) |
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| [10:32:00] | greg_: | SlicerDicer you using irxevent or mythtv's native lirc support? |
| [10:32:00] | greg_: | i had it randomly ignoring keypresses when i was using irxevent, it seems to work fine now i'm using native lirc support |
| [10:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am using native |
| [10:32:00] | greg_: | ahh well |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cannot get irrecord to work though |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats why I used a set I grabbed online |
| [10:33:00] | Dibblah: | What's your receiver? |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pvr-350? |
| [10:33:00] | Dibblah: | And what error do you get with irrecord? |
| [10:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions) |
| [10:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | irw works fine though |
| [10:34:00] | Dibblah: | Uhuh... And you did what it said? |
| [10:34:00] | greg_: | you don't have lircd running right? |
| [10:34:00] | Dibblah: | If irw works, then you do. |
| [10:34:00] | greg_: | irrecord talks to /dev/lirc directly i think so if you have lircd running it won't be able to lock the device |
| [10:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I killed it dont worry hehe |
| [10:34:00] | greg_: | :) |
| [10:35:00] | Dibblah: | In which case, you've not specified the device correctly. |
| [10:35:00] | greg_: | and you're running lircd and irrecord as the same user? so there's no permission problems? check it's /dev/lirc and not /dev/lirc/0 or such |
| [10:35:00] | greg_: | i had that because of udev, and it kept assuming /dev/lirc until i forced it to /dev/lirc/0 |
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| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | question |
| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when it says hold down arbitrary button |
| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does that mean that when I do it it should spam dots the entire time? |
| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or does it stop |
| [10:39:00] | greg_: | hold the button down until it tells you to stop |
| [10:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [10:39:00] | greg_: | unless you're getting screens full of them |
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| [10:41:00] | hydroksyde: | what needs to be set up to monitor media status? |
| [10:42:00] | hydroksyde: | right now when i launch mythfrontend it will go straight to the media menu if i have a dvd in |
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| [10:42:00] | hydroksyde: | but it wont automatically detect it |
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| [10:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hand hurting pressiing buttoon crazy fast lol |
| [10:50:00] | greg_: | is it working slicerdicer? |
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| [10:50:00] | greg_: | don't press the button repeatedly by the way, hold it down instead |
| [10:51:00] | greg_: | or at least that's what worked for me |
| [10:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | at the end it told me to |
| [10:51:00] | greg_: | ahhh |
| [10:51:00] | greg_: | i'd swear my memories totally gone thse days :) |
| [10:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got to get to sleep |
| [10:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well at least I know the direction to go hehe |
| [10:54:00] | greg_: | :) |
| [10:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gnite thanks for the help |
| [10:55:00] | greg_: | good luck |
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| [11:23:00] | Calroth: | with the "monitor cd/dvd hardware" option |
| [11:23:00] | Calroth: | do you need some sort of automount set up for that? |
| [11:23:00] | Calroth: | cos i've never gotten it to work |
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| [11:29:00] | Juski: | I'd expect you to have your dvd drive automount for it to work |
| [11:29:00] | Juski: | ..like it says in the FM somewhere |
| [11:31:00] | ** Gumby wonders what the point of online UPS tracking is when it hasnt updates in 48hours. ** | |
| [11:31:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [11:37:00] | greg_: | heh a friend of mine ordered a new macbook pro and according to the tracking it's been on a plane from shanghai for the last week |
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| [11:37:00] | greg_: | slow plane, or fast boat :) |
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| [11:42:00] | Juski: | your mac has been shanghai'd? eek |
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| [11:42:00] | nuxil: | hello gents |
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| [11:42:00] | nuxil: | how do u make a X session just for mythtv |
| [11:42:00] | nuxil: | no kde or gnome or whatever |
| [11:43:00] | Juski: | no window manager? asking for trouble |
| [11:43:00] | nuxil: | why is that?.. |
| [11:43:00] | nuxil: | cant it handel gb |
| [11:43:00] | nuxil: | *fb |
| [11:43:00] | nuxil: | framebuffer |
| [11:44:00] | Juski: | it's better within a window manager for lots of reasons. #1 being you stand more chance of never losing focus on windows you want to control |
| [11:44:00] | greg_: | there are some pretty light weight window managers you could run with X and no gnome/kde |
| [11:45:00] | Juski: | evilwm, ratpoison.. list goes on & on |
| [11:47:00] | Juski: | as for running without X itself, I wouldn't advise that, noting the headaches you've already had |
| [11:49:00] | nuxil: | Juski the thing is that i wanna run 2 X servers.. well i actaly do run 2.. on my 2nd one i just want mythtv. while i do other stuff on X1 |
| [11:50:00] | Juski: | so you just put something like |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | while true do |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | mythfrontend; |
| [11:51:00] | nuxil: | but i dont wana run 2 kdes-- |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | done |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | no idea |
| [11:52:00] | Juski: | I've heard it can be fun getting mythfrontend to play nicely while doing stuff on another desktop though |
| [11:52:00] | greg_: | nuxil i think i remember something i nthe mythtv docs about automatically starting a mythfrontend using the xinitrc |
| [11:52:00] | greg_: | not gnome/kde |
| [11:52:00] | Juski: | put mythfrontend in .xinitrc |
| [11:52:00] | nuxil: | well.. the prob is that kde also gets started from that file |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | or a script to restart mythfrontend if it dies |
| [11:53:00] | ** Juski doesn't understand these folks who want to use multiple displays like this ** | |
| [11:53:00] | nuxil: | lol |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | don't be stingy – buy another computer |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [11:54:00] | nuxil: | i will if you send me some money to buy one :) |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | or.. don't expect too much from your PC. you might find that simple things like scrolling down a webpage makes your tv playback glitch |
| [11:57:00] | UBL: | i can run mythfrontend in a window and browse the web fine |
| [12:00:00] | Juski: | YMMV |
| [12:01:00] | UBL: | non-hd content on amd 1ghz athlon,512ram |
| [12:01:00] | UBL: | pvr-250 |
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| [12:51:00] | Juski: | hmmm... not much doing on the RM4100 front today |
| [12:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, my samples from Maxim arrived yesterday so I can put together my rs232-ttl cable, hoping the first of my boxes arrives today |
| [12:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | one of the guys finally got aorund to launching X on his yesterday |
| [12:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [13:08:00] | Dibblah: | Why not just buy cheap phone cables from ebay like the rest of us do? |
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| [13:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well I could do that for the wires, but I still need the chip to do the conversion |
| [13:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I have 500M of phone cable on a spool in my basement, so plenty of that :) |
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| [13:50:00] | Juski: | damn rj11 crimp tool can never be found when you need it |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | good to hear someone's had X running on the msntv thing though :-0 |
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| [13:55:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [13:55:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:57:00] | Juski: | more than some people manage to do on a linux pc ... haha |
| [13:59:00] | Jasper: | hmm Juski ? I guess I need to install transcode for it to work ? :P |
| [14:02:00] | Juski: | install transcode for _what_ to work? |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | oh, transcoding.. ahhh |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [14:03:00] | Jasper: | :?p |
| [14:03:00] | Jasper: | hehe |
| [14:03:00] | Jasper: | last time I transcoded something...my files were just deleted.. |
| [14:04:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:04:00] | Jasper: | I hoped transcoding was auto-emerged with mythtv.. |
| [14:04:00] | Jasper: | but guess not :P |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | unless you have transcode in your use flags... |
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| [14:07:00] | Jasper: | hmm but transcode isn't a use flag right? |
| [14:07:00] | Jasper: | for mythtv? |
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| [14:15:00] | opello: | Jasper: no |
| [14:18:00] | Jasper: | no as in; it's not? |
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| [14:19:00] | opello: | yeah, transcode is not a use flag for mythtv |
| [14:19:00] | opello: | it is a use flag, but mythtv isn't affected by it |
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| [14:28:00] | STemplar_: | he guys do you know how I can improve the playback quality of mythtv? I tried standard, libmpeg2 and xvmc but I still see a lot of blocks |
| [14:28:00] | STemplar_: | are there other options I can try? |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | increase the bitrate |
| [14:30:00] | STemplar_: | ok |
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| [14:30:00] | Juski: | STemplar: what recording method are you using? |
| [14:31:00] | STemplar_: | euhm I don't know actually :D |
| [14:31:00] | STemplar_: | Juski: how can I check? |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | what capture care do you use? |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | *card |
| [14:31:00] | STemplar_: | twinhan dvb |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | are you transcoding recordings at all? |
| [14:32:00] | Juski: | if not, welcome to the world of DVB-T |
| [14:32:00] | STemplar_: | nope not transcoding |
| [14:32:00] | Juski: | in the UK some programming looks, frankly, really shitty |
| [14:32:00] | greg_: | what output resolution are you using for your tv? |
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| [14:33:00] | STemplar_: | pal |
| [14:33:00] | greg_: | is it the native pal res, and what tv out chip are you using and is scaling disabled? |
| [14:33:00] | dfgh: | Can some modern graphic processors be used to video encoding? |
| [14:33:00] | STemplar_: | I have an geforce msi 6600 |
| [14:33:00] | STemplar_: | with svideo output |
| [14:33:00] | Juski: | scaling doesn't really affect how blocky things look – in terms of seeing MPEG2 macroblock artifacts |
| [14:33:00] | greg_: | k |
| [14:34:00] | Juski: | low bitrates, however (<2mbits) and poor encoding at the broadcaster's side, don't help |
| [14:34:00] | Juski: | STemplar: are you in the UK? |
| [14:35:00] | greg_: | heh i sometimes see mpeg block artifacts on sky 1 even without my pvr in the way |
| [14:35:00] | cosmo-: | anyone got a good recipe for installing mythtv .19 on xebian? |
| [14:35:00] | STemplar_: | Juski: no in the netherlands |
| [14:35:00] | STemplar_: | Juski: using dvb-c |
| [14:35:00] | Juski: | greg_: that's cos $ky use low bitrates too |
| [14:35:00] | greg_: | yeah guessed that, kind of funny |
| [14:35:00] | Juski: | STemplar_: it's your cable provider's fault then |
| [14:35:00] | STemplar_: | Juski: I also imported an DVD in myth and that also seems a bit blocky at times (using xine) |
| [14:36:00] | Juski: | STemplar_: did you transcode it aswell? or was it just a straight import? |
| [14:37:00] | STemplar_: | straight import |
| [14:37:00] | Juski: | hrm |
| [14:37:00] | STemplar_: | Juski: strange isn't it? |
| [14:38:00] | STemplar_: | Juski: if I watch the HD demo the picture is clear and perfect |
| [14:40:00] | STemplar_: | I will try and fiddle with some things |
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| [14:52:00] | rjune: | is there a way to start ssh from the gentoo install CD? |
| [14:52:00] | rjune: | on a system w/out a hard drive |
| [14:53:00] | rjune: | soorry wrong channel |
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| [15:14:00] | Juski: | rjune: that'd be /etc/init.d/sshd start |
| [15:15:00] | rjune: | heh, thanks |
| [15:15:00] | Juski: | like the instructions in the bootsplash say ;-) |
| [15:15:00] | rjune: | I don't get to see the bootsplash |
| [15:15:00] | rjune: | and have a trained monkey on the other end |
| [15:15:00] | Juski: | btw you'll need to set root's passwd or you'll not be able to log in |
| [15:15:00] | rjune: | got there |
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| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [15:23:00] | Juski: | the mind boggles at how long it'd take to crack a randomly generated password |
| [15:23:00] | rjune: | rainbow tables |
| [15:24:00] | rjune: | if you know the algorithm, it's an interesting propesition |
| [15:24:00] | Juski: | even so, it might take a while ;-) |
| [15:24:00] | ivor: | Juski: often a surprisingly short time. |
| [15:25:00] | Juski: | maybe I should have much longer passwords then |
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| [16:13:00] | Juski: | afternoon mr Kelerion |
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| [16:15:00] | wh|tey: | Hi can anyone here straighten me out on whether or not I will be able to watch tv and capture it to HD using a wintv-pvr150 connected to my dish network dvr |
| [16:15:00] | wh|tey: | ? |
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| [16:15:00] | wh|tey: | or is that not possible? I have seen conflicting reports on the net about this |
| [16:15:00] | Anon5134: | I'm about to build a myth box. Eyeballing an ASUS Pundit AE3 as my base. Main issue: how to make a machine that can SLEEP till a specific time or another machine in the LAN wakes it. |
| [16:16:00] | Anon5134: | Your disk likely gives you one channel only.. |
| [16:16:00] | Anon5134: | so if you're looking for the SAME channel.. |
| [16:16:00] | Anon5134: | Watching what you're recording is rarely a problem. |
| [16:16:00] | wh|tey: | yeah that's fine same channel as I am watching I would like to be able to record |
| [16:17:00] | Anon5134: | Can't imagine that to be a problem. I am also eyeballing a PVR-150, but for cable use. |
| [16:17:00] | wh|tey: | ok so it is possible by running a splitter off the tv-out rg-6 and running a rg-6 cable then off that back to the tv and the other over to the pvr-150 |
| [16:18:00] | wh|tey: | well digital sat is all I am worrying about as I thought that was a showstopper |
| [16:18:00] | wh|tey: | I was thinkin awww hell no now I have to cancel dish network and go back to comcast analog cable |
| [16:18:00] | wh|tey: | :-( |
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| [16:18:00] | Anon5134: | Ehm.. sounds like you're about to end up with two signals on one connection, no? |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | you may need a cable amp too for good signal levels if you split cable too much |
| [16:19:00] | Juski: | bah. ack. fskin win2k |
| [16:19:00] | wh|tey: | apparently tvtime doesnt work for shit w/ the ivtv drivers and this card |
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| [16:19:00] | Anon5134: | You are using to seperate AV connectors on your TV? One for the sat-receiver, one for the HTPC? |
| [16:19:00] | Juski: | sometimes when I play media on my work machine – no matter if it's avi, xvid, mpeg2, or wmv.. my machine just _hangs_ :-/ |
| [16:19:00] | Anon5134: | Or is the HTPC supposed to BE that sat receiver? |
| [16:20:00] | wh|tey: | yeah, I am almost positive, my tv still works and I have it split using a simple 5–1000 mhz splitter and the other coax screws onto my hauppauge, is this incorrect? |
| [16:21:00] | wh|tey: | no I just want the capability to snag tv contect to my htpc from the dish network receiver |
| [16:21:00] | Anon5134: | Oh.. I assumed you'd be using scart or such, not the coax antenna |
| [16:21:00] | Juski: | wh|tey: you can only split an antenna/cable feed so many times without amplifying it. you can't split satellite cables at _all_ |
| [16:21:00] | wh|tey: | so what do I need to do to get thsi setup properly? |
| [16:21:00] | wh|tey: | dang I thought I was surely headed down the right path |
| [16:22:00] | Anon5134: | Well; personally I'd never have my sat box recode to antenna/cable feed |
| [16:22:00] | Anon5134: | we tend to use scart connectors, or is that a european thing? |
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| [16:22:00] | Juski: | anon5134: it's us Euros who use SCAT.. erm.. SCART |
| [16:23:00] | wh|tey: | must be a euro thing :-D |
| [16:23:00] | Anon5134: | hmm.. well.. the idea remains: find the video and audio signal feeds on your sat receiver, work with those |
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| [16:23:00] | wh|tey: | I got svid and rg-6 coax hookup off my hauppauge wintv-pvr 150 |
| [16:23:00] | Anon5134: | svid sounds good :) |
| [16:24:00] | wh|tey: | k |
| [16:24:00] | Anon5134: | off pvr -> tv that is? |
| [16:24:00] | Anon5134: | and what comes from sat box to xx? |
| [16:24:00] | Kelerion: | afternoon Monsieur Juski :) |
| [16:24:00] | wh|tey: | still the fact remains that how do I take a tuner card that does 125 channels (analog) at that and hit my dish network channels that are in the 200's 300's |
| [16:25:00] | Anon5134: | btw: I am assuming rg-6 coax hookup is a fancy name for "antenna/cable feed" as that's the coax I know.. |
| [16:25:00] | wh|tey: | ya got it |
| [16:25:00] | wh|tey: | hehe sorry |
| [16:25:00] | wh|tey: | I worked for Dish Network at one point so I unfortunately knwo and still have a hard time breaking off the terms rg-59, rg6 |
| [16:26:00] | Anon5134: | all your 200–300 channels will arive as just one "channel", an aux feed |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | rg-6.. very low-cost ;-) |
| [16:26:00] | wh|tey: | I dont get the 'one' channel thing, an aux feed? |
| [16:26:00] | wh|tey: | hmmm |
| [16:26:00] | Anon5134: | but I just read that mythtv *should* be able to switch channels on the external box |
| [16:27:00] | Anon5134: | Well.. your sat box will do the tuning for you |
| [16:27:00] | wh|tey: | ohhh ok gotcha |
| [16:27:00] | Anon5134: | or should the PVR do that? (I strongly doubt it can) |
| [16:27:00] | Anon5134: | That only tends to suck for scheduled recording, as you need to make sure the external box is on the right channel.. |
| [16:27:00] | Anon5134: | but I just read that mythtv *should* be able to switch channels on the external box |
| [16:28:00] | Juski: | someone's like totally on the ball |
| [16:28:00] | wh|tey: | hey ehy now |
| [16:28:00] | wh|tey: | heh |
| [16:28:00] | Anon5134: | Yep; this is stuff I know; made a setup with two sat receivers and switchboxes and stuff for my parents :) |
| [16:28:00] | wh|tey: | well I gotta take off to work, tty all later, thanks for the pointers, got ivtv install properly on my gentoo box and now emerging mythtv |
| [16:29:00] | Anon5134: | What I came here to get some light on myself though: any chance of building a box that will go to sleep and actually wake up again nicely? |
| [16:29:00] | Anon5134: | I'd hate it to be on full power 24/7.. |
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| [16:30:00] | Anon5134: | So basically it should wake up on time (scheduled) or LAN (other box needing it) |
| [16:31:00] | wh|tey: | wake on lan packet is what i am thinking :_D |
| [16:31:00] | Anon5134: | right |
| [16:31:00] | Anon5134: | for the one thing |
| [16:31:00] | Anon5134: | and some form of bios support for the other.. |
| [16:31:00] | Anon5134: | but I've only heard linux is notorious in that area.. |
| [16:31:00] | wh|tey: | OR, some BIOS' have an option for a auto WOL feature where ya can set a specific time for it to pwr on |
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| [16:32:00] | wh|tey: | that prolly wont be the most useful though |
| [16:32:00] | Anon5134: | Well.. only if the myth program can set that time.. |
| [16:34:00] | Anon5134: | I'm reading some stuff in those archives pointed to on entry here, but it all seems "wannahave this feature" talk rather than something existing.. |
| [16:35:00] | Juski: | mythtv can indeed wake up a backend using its BIOS feature. the subject is covered in mythtv's FM |
| [16:35:00] | wh|tey: | would I be saving myself a lot of time and effort to go out and take my filter off my broadband internet and just get 60–70 analog channels from that for now to test and play w/ and then tackle the dish network digital receiver and getting content from that to my mythtv box? |
| [16:36:00] | Anon5134: | Connecting the two is perfectly simple. Getting one to control the other might take you time. |
| [16:37:00] | wh|tey: | sounds good, well I am really off this time, gonna be a tad late today |
| [16:37:00] | wh|tey: | heh |
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| [16:38:00] | Anon5134: | Hmm.. sorry to be asking this, but where to find the "FM". "Documenentation" on the site gives me only an "Installing and Using"; not other manuals :( |
| [16:39:00] | Anon5134: | D'oh... 11.5 of that :| |
| [16:39:00] | ** Juski laughs ** | |
| [16:39:00] | Juski: | oh dear oh dear |
| [16:39:00] | Anon5134: | Gosh.. and I like to think of myself as good in spotting things in long documents :( |
| [16:39:00] | Anon5134: | Good thing today isn't very long anymore.. |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | it's always a good idea to read lots and often before you set out on your journey ;-) |
| [16:40:00] | dev-: | even moreso with myth |
| [16:41:00] | dev-: | reading will be your friend and your advantage heh |
| [16:41:00] | Anon5134: | and mindboggling at time ;) |
| [16:41:00] | Anon5134: | times |
| [16:41:00] | dev-: | its written in high school english, i dont think its mind boggling ;p |
| [16:41:00] | Anon5134: | Well, I kinda told a friend I was making a dual boot system: |
| [16:41:00] | dev-: | didnt have to look up one word on dictionary.com! |
| [16:41:00] | Anon5134: | dev machine (Debian) + media center.. |
| [16:42:00] | Anon5134: | he suggested to skip the Win bit altogether |
| [16:42:00] | Anon5134: | not the difficulty, dev, but the amount of stuff to wade through |
| [16:42:00] | dev-: | hrm, the mythtv docs arent THAT long heh |
| [16:42:00] | Anon5134: | :) |
| [16:42:00] | dev-: | unless you're also learning your os.. |
| [16:43:00] | Anon5134: | Well.. selecting and learning the hardware |
| [16:43:00] | Anon5134: | I have rather stringent space constraints |
| [16:43:00] | Anon5134: | And I know nothing of "media center interfaces" in general |
| [16:43:00] | dev-: | heh me niether, i just use a remote |
| [16:44:00] | Anon5134: | (which seem to be not very unique at all, despites MS bravodo about their's) |
| [16:44:00] | Anon5134: | Lol.. |
| [16:44:00] | Anon5134: | but then you have already selected some program (MythTV?) that you can use with that remote |
| [16:44:00] | dev-: | thats why i lurk around this channel ;) |
| [16:44:00] | Anon5134: | I started with thinking I'd connect my upstairs pc to the tv |
| [16:45:00] | Anon5134: | but can't get to control it with ONLY the TV image |
| [16:45:00] | dev-: | i use epia 10k machines for my frontends, in mini-itx cases, very small, fits in the shelf under the tvs, and mid tower pcs for my master and slave backend in the computer room. |
| [16:45:00] | dev-: | all myth, of course |
| [16:45:00] | Anon5134: | but that backend runs Linux too, right? |
| [16:46:00] | dev-: | yes, thats what myth runs on ;) |
| [16:46:00] | Anon5134: | I.e. I can't plug a PVR-150 into my WinXP box and use that |
| [16:46:00] | dev-: | no, mythtv doesnt work on windows. |
| [16:46:00] | Anon5134: | Nor does it prolly interface with all that vendor specific stuff the win box would be running.. |
| [16:47:00] | Anon5134: | Oops.. just missed my bus.. guess I got hooked already :( ;) |
| [16:47:00] | dev-: | eh? what vendor specific stuff |
| [16:48:00] | dev-: | only cards that have issues in *nix are ati, gee, shocker there. |
| [16:48:00] | Anon5134: | Well, if you buy a PVR-150, it comes with some "PVR software" for windows.. |
| [16:48:00] | Anon5134: | basically I don't really need the box downstairs to do the recording, just the playback.. |
| [16:48:00] | dev-: | thats just crap for win32 because noone makes software for free for windows these days. everything you can do in windows with a pvr you can do in *nix |
| [16:48:00] | Anon5134: | (the box upstairs does 24/7 anyway) |
| [16:48:00] | Juski: | I've seen the 'pvr |
| [16:49:00] | Anon5134: | Yeah, but the upstairs box already runs 24/7, but is however stuck in WinXP.. |
| [16:49:00] | Juski: | software in windows... ewew |
| [16:49:00] | Juski: | Anon5134: so forget about mythtv already then |
| [16:49:00] | Anon5134: | Well.. dunno.. it can play back files from disk, right? |
| [16:50:00] | Juski: | or have an all-in box downstairs.. but it's hard to make a nice looking, quiet, fast enough box |
| [16:50:00] | Anon5134: | Or are there better genneral play back interfaces for Linux? |
| [16:50:00] | Juski: | windows can browse files over a Samba share, and you can use VLC to play them with, but that's not like MythTV |
| [16:50:00] | Anon5134: | right; space and sound are an issue. Leave out the TV card + big HD requirement and plenty little boxes off the shelf are there :) |
| [16:51:00] | Juski: | as far as PVR'ing is concerned, mythtv is the best |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | your box in the livingroom doesn't _have_ to sport a hard disk ya know ;-) |
| [16:52:00] | Anon5134: | yeah right.. but that's bringing a third box into the story... |
| [16:52:00] | dev-: | i wouldnt even go there |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [16:52:00] | macroexp: | diskless boxes rule... quiet.... |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | make a cheap, big noisy box & put it out of view & earshot |
| [16:53:00] | Anon5134: | a.k.a. long cable from upstairs.. |
| [16:53:00] | dev-: | or wireless if you're not doing hd |
| [16:53:00] | dev-: | which with a pvr, you're not |
| [16:53:00] | Anon5134: | Ok guys; thanks for the food for more thought. Gotta go or miss 'nother bus. |
| [16:54:00] | Anon5134: | bye |
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| [16:54:00] | dev-: | toodaloo |
| [16:54:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [16:54:00] | macroexp: | wireless netbooting is not possible, afaik, but boot off cd would work |
| [16:54:00] | dev-: | i use laptop drives on my frontends |
| [16:54:00] | dev-: | cant hear them. |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | boot from USB flashy flashy |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | or use proper networking ;-) |
| [16:56:00] | dev-: | yeah no reason you cant netboot over wireless if its just a bridge |
| [16:56:00] | Juski: | I compared a netboot to HDD booting & there wasn't much in it in terms of boot time |
| [16:56:00] | macroexp: | sure, if you use a external bridge, that'd work |
| [16:56:00] | dev-: | usb flash would be nice, especialy with 512meg/1gig being so cheap now |
| [16:56:00] | Juski: | quite easy to keep a root partition down to <512MB |
| [16:57:00] | Juski: | if you skip KDE/Gnome that is |
| [16:57:00] | dev-: | hehe who would run gnome or kde on a frontend |
| [16:57:00] | dev-: | i use bb |
| [16:57:00] | Kelerion: | whats the easiest way to join two avi's? |
| [16:57:00] | dev-: | Kelerion: cat? |
| [16:57:00] | Kelerion: | never tried it with an avi |
| [16:58:00] | macroexp: | i'm still running "commando", no wm... |
| [16:58:00] | macroexp: | although i'll probably need something once i get mythgame going, focus issues will hit me i'm sure |
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| [17:01:00] | Kelerion: | ok – cat didn't work |
| [17:02:00] | dev-: | why not? |
| [17:02:00] | Kelerion: | dunno.. it plays as if it's the first avi.. |
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| [17:02:00] | Kelerion: | and only the first |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | use a tool like avidemux |
| [17:03:00] | dev-: | yeah might have header information right in the middle it doesnt like |
| [17:03:00] | Kelerion: | as if the avi's header contains a "this is only 1:10 long" and thats all it plays |
| [17:03:00] | dev-: | ya, avidemux2 is goodstuff. |
| [17:03:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. |
| [17:03:00] | ** Kelerion goes to install it ** | |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | or avicat |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | which comes with avifile, I think |
| [17:05:00] | dev-: | ah sweet, didnt know about that util |
| [17:05:00] | dev-: | even though its on my box ;/ heh |
| [17:05:00] | Kelerion: | ahh.. avicat seems to be working :) |
| [17:05:00] | Juski: | virtualdub is good, but no idea if there's 'nux version |
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| [17:06:00] | Kelerion: | thats what I use under windows.. very good piece of software |
| [17:07:00] | ** Kelerion thinks avidemux2 would still be worth installing for future use ** | |
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| [17:08:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. avicat messed up...sound is all outta sync |
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| [17:08:00] | Juski: | VBR audio eh? |
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| [17:09:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. I think so |
| [17:09:00] | Juski: | virtualsub'd do it |
| [17:10:00] | Juski: | ahem.. virtualdub |
| [17:10:00] | Kelerion: | I can't be bothered moving the avi's to a windows machine.. am feeling lazy :P |
| [17:10:00] | Kelerion: | so I'll spend 20 mins getting avidemux2 working instead... logical huh? lol |
| [17:23:00] | Juski: | heh |
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| [17:36:00] | Kelerion: | this is a new one: configure: error: *** SPIDERMONKEY javascript engine not found !*** |
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| [17:37:00] | Kelerion: | checked and it is |
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| [17:47:00] | Kelerion: | ok – installed.. cheated and installed an rpm :) |
| [17:50:00] | Kelerion: | I supposed avidemux2 is about as close to virtualdub as there is available – even down to the clunky interface :) |
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| [17:56:00] | Juski: | sitting here logged into home, making video test sequences... weird |
| [17:57:00] | Kelerion: | ain't the internet a amazing thing? |
| [17:57:00] | Juski: | saves my company having to buy Sony Vegas ;-) |
| [17:57:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [18:06:00] | Juski: | render render... |
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| [18:15:00] | Mersault: | I have a large collection of music shared across my local network using itunes sharing(using mt-daapd). Is there any way to access this music in mythmusic? |
| [18:20:00] | Juski: | samba or nfs would be better AFAIK |
| [18:21:00] | Mersault: | does mythmusic just read the filesystem and not touch it? or does it try to turn my collection into it's own library sorted how it wants? |
| [18:21:00] | Juski: | it reads a bunch of files, id3 tags & all, into the database |
| [18:22:00] | Mersault: | but it just points to the actual files in the filesystem, doesn |
| [18:22:00] | Mersault: | t try and manipulate them? |
| [18:22:00] | Juski: | you can opt to have mythmusic leave the files alone when you change track details, or to update the DB instead / both |
| [18:22:00] | jchome: | hmpf.. svn source fails evrytime while compiling .. |
| [18:22:00] | Mersault: | I'm just hesitant about having myth muck about with my music. I have a lot of it, and I'd rather it not get hosed |
| [18:23:00] | Mersault: | as I said, I share it across the local network, and more than a couple people listen to it |
| [18:23:00] | Juski: | should be fine. the only way mythmusic can mess with tags is if you ask it to |
| [18:23:00] | Mersault: | okay, that's good. |
| [18:23:00] | Juski: | make the share read-only & you wouldn't need worry anyway |
| [18:23:00] | Mersault: | true dat |
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| [18:26:00] | Juski: | uhhhh I need a faster uplinky |
| [18:26:00] | Juski: | 20.3KB/sec download of a video from home.. bah |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | go home with a blank DVD |
| [18:27:00] | Juski: | gonna show off to my boss' boss ;-) |
| [18:28:00] | Juski: | ages ago I made a coloured wheel we could use to measure recording rates. it's in demand, so now it's gone electronic |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [18:29:00] | Juski: | basically I can't be arsed to make any more of the wheel things, so I'm doing a DVD instead |
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| [18:37:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i know this isnt myth related but im stuck i cant connect to the internet from my suse box – using the wireless card i just plugged in – it can the gateway but no further?? |
| [18:37:00] | rsquared: | well then.. i figured out my problem last night |
| [18:38:00] | _willcooke_: | Pitchin_uk, default gateway? dns? |
| [18:40:00] | Pitchin_uk: | _willcooke_ – it can see the gateway which is 192.168.0.1 |
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| [18:41:00] | rsquared: | apparently enabling ac3 passthrough to spdif has issues when playing back SD content captured from a DCT6200 |
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| [19:07:00] | ** rsquared is away: help ** | |
| [19:07:00] | rsquared: | heh |
| [19:07:00] | rsquared: | or not |
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| [19:24:00] | Mersault: | has anyone had luck getting zsnes and fce ultra to work with lirc? I'd like to be able to exit the emulator/save/load states with the remote. |
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| [19:35:00] | a1fa2: | hey |
| [19:35:00] | a1fa2: | guys |
| [19:35:00] | rsquared: | hey |
| [19:35:00] | a1fa2: | who is running softmoded |
| [19:35:00] | a1fa2: | xbxo? |
| [19:35:00] | a1fa2: | xbox? |
| [19:36:00] | rsquared: | not i |
| [19:36:00] | dev-: | not many people do because if you fuck up flashing the tsop you're screwed |
| [19:37:00] | a1fa2: | i am going to attempt it tonight |
| [19:37:00] | a1fa2: | if i messup tsop, i will just get a mod chip |
| [19:37:00] | dev-: | you dont understand |
| [19:37:00] | dev-: | if you fuck up the tsop, you're done |
| [19:37:00] | dev-: | game over |
| [19:37:00] | dev-: | new xbox |
| [19:37:00] | dev-: | :) |
| [19:37:00] | a1fa2: | ;P |
| [19:37:00] | a1fa2: | that bad? |
| [19:37:00] | a1fa2: | i am kind of sceptical |
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| [19:38:00] | a1fa2: | most of these guides ask for you to login to xbox live and update your dashboard |
| [19:38:00] | a1fa2: | wouldnt they patch the dashboard all ready |
| [19:38:00] | a1fa2: | so its not vulnerable |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [19:39:00] | a1fa2: | gay? |
| [19:41:00] | hydroksyde: | errr |
| [19:41:00] | hydroksyde: | the issue is not with dashboard, is it? |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | this isn't an xbox-hacking channel |
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| [19:42:00] | hydroksyde: | it's a buffer overflow in another game, bur Beirdo is correct |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | xbox-hacking is somewhat grey-area legally.... don't make me update the FAQ |
| [19:42:00] | a1fa2: | Beirdo : its not grey |
| [19:42:00] | a1fa2: | you own it |
| [19:42:00] | a1fa2: | you can do whatever you want with it |
| [19:42:00] | hydroksyde: | exactly |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | not so |
| [19:42:00] | a1fa2: | as long as you dont sell it |
| [19:42:00] | a1fa2: | quiet so |
| [19:42:00] | a1fa2: | same thing when you buy a coke |
| [19:43:00] | a1fa2: | you can put it up your ass |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | please redirect your conversation elsewhere |
| [19:43:00] | a1fa2: | bcos you own it :P |
| [19:43:00] | a1fa2: | but you can drink it |
| [19:43:00] | a1fa2: | it is much better if you drink it.. the way it was suggested |
| [19:43:00] | dev-: | if beirdo doesnt want it discussed in here, its entire his choice |
| [19:43:00] | hydroksyde: | if I buy an X-Box, if it doesn't have a label on the box saying "YOU MAY NOT HAXX THIS XBOXXX", i can hack it |
| [19:43:00] | dev-: | so respect it |
| [19:43:00] | hydroksyde: | yes |
| [19:43:00] | hydroksyde: | you are correct, dev- |
| [19:43:00] | a1fa2: | fine fine :P |
| [19:44:00] | hydroksyde: | but I am curious Beirdo, why do you think it could be illegal? |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | they have license agreements, etc... there are places to discuss it without MPAA-heads seeing it here and alerting MS |
| [19:44:00] | dev-: | the illegal part is when the conversation switches to playing "backed up games" |
| [19:44:00] | dev-: | because the conversation rearely stays on running linux only useing the cormwell bios (which is legal, for now anyway) |
| [19:44:00] | hydroksyde: | MPAA? are you high Beirdo? |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | the only non-legal quagmire way to do it that I've heard of is using cromwell on an external ROM |
| [19:45:00] | dev-: | yup |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | hydroksyde: you think the MPAA and others don't go through our channel logs? |
| [19:45:00] | dev-: | thats why the modchips ship with cromwell, its perfectly legal, and you're allowed to do it — except you void your warranty. |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | you on crack? :) |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | whereas messing with the dashboard... is not on the up and up. |
| [19:46:00] | hydroksyde: | Beirdo, good point |
| [19:46:00] | hydroksyde: | I see |
| [19:46:00] | hydroksyde: | you're talking about softmods... makes perfect sense |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | MS doesn't like people reverse engineering their code, and they have more money for lawyers than any of us (presumably) |
| [19:47:00] | dev-: | i wonder if its a problem with channel 9 or one of my tuners.. hrm.. every so often i get recordings of ds9 (and only ds9) with echos of the image heh |
| [19:47:00] | dev-: | does the db indicate which tuner a recording was recorded on>? |
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| [19:48:00] | dev-: | ah i found it in mythbackend log nm |
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| [19:52:00] | Juski: | evening |
| [19:54:00] | rsquared: | heh |
| [19:54:00] | rsquared: | it's not even noon |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | sure it is |
| [19:55:00] | rsquared: | not here |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | silly west-coasters |
| [19:55:00] | rsquared: | yup |
| [19:56:00] | rsquared: | i wonder if i should call comcast and bitch at them to turn off encryption on some of my HD channels |
| [19:56:00] | Juski: | haha |
| [19:56:00] | Juski: | I wonder if they'll tell you where to go or pull the plug |
| [19:56:00] | rsquared: | is that even possible? |
| [19:56:00] | Juski: | no, it's probably a condition of them carrying the programming |
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| [19:57:00] | rsquared: | it makes no sense because they have their own pvr |
| [19:57:00] | Juski: | yes, which is a closed, 'safe' format you can't share on the internet |
| [19:57:00] | rsquared: | you can pull off the recordings via firewire |
| [19:57:00] | Juski: | I'd be amazed if you can pull encrypted channel recordings off |
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| [19:58:00] | rsquared: | i really don't see how you couldn't |
| [19:58:00] | Juski: | if they allow that, then I don't see the point in them using 5C for the live firewire feeds |
| [19:59:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [20:01:00] | Juski: | just pulled up a blog which says "Most cable systems gladly switch off the 5C encryption for 'compatibility' purposes, and you can capture the actual HDTV over the firewire" |
| [20:02:00] | rsquared: | that's what i read somewhere |
| [20:02:00] | rsquared: | i just sent them an email |
| [20:02:00] | rsquared: | between having my SD capture fixed and if i can get them to turn off 5C, my myth setup will be at about 95% complete |
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| [20:04:00] | Juski: | heh. well it'd be nicer if it all just worked and they went after the (you know who) instead, but lets not get into a debate about it |
| [20:05:00] | rsquared: | went after the you know who? |
| [20:05:00] | ** rsquared has no clue ** | |
| [20:05:00] | a1fa2: | god dman it |
| [20:05:00] | a1fa2: | people are fighting with guns around here |
| [20:05:00] | a1fa2: | and i am stuck on the phone |
| [20:05:00] | a1fa2: | geez |
| [20:05:00] | Baylink: | ?? |
| [20:05:00] | rsquared: | guns? |
| [20:05:00] | rsquared: | where are you? |
| [20:05:00] | a1fa2: | paper guns |
| [20:06:00] | ** Baylink relaxes ** | |
| [20:06:00] | a1fa2: | they shoot those paper bullets |
| [20:06:00] | rsquared: | ah |
| [20:06:00] | a1fa2: | they shoot eachother over cubes |
| [20:06:00] | a1fa2: | and yell |
| [20:06:00] | a1fa2: | bastards |
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| [20:07:00] | Juski: | could be worse |
| [20:08:00] | rjune: | a1fa2: time to break out the chemical weapons. |
| [20:09:00] | rjune: | have a breakfast of tacos and baked beans |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa2: | rjune : i have KFC in my trashcan |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa2: | i ordered 6pc meal and only had 4 |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa2: | 2 stinky crispy chicken left |
| [20:09:00] | rjune: | not as effective |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa2: | maybe i can hit somebody and they would stfu |
| [20:12:00] | a1fa2: | oh man |
| [20:12:00] | ** a1fa2 is thinking of recompiling everything to x64 ** | |
| [20:12:00] | a1fa2: | still thinking |
| [20:13:00] | a1fa2: | AMD64 3200+ on my mythtv |
| [20:13:00] | a1fa2: | sort an overkill |
| [20:13:00] | rsquared: | heh |
| [20:13:00] | rsquared: | you're using x86? |
| [20:13:00] | a1fa2: | yeah |
| [20:13:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. same |
| [20:13:00] | a1fa2: | i need to switch to x64 |
| [20:13:00] | rsquared: | except i got an intel |
| [20:13:00] | rsquared: | me too |
| [20:13:00] | rsquared: | i messed up when i built the box |
| [20:14:00] | rsquared: | and now that everything's working... i'm like ugh |
| [20:14:00] | a1fa2: | i replaced my cpu yesterday |
| [20:14:00] | rsquared: | ah |
| [20:14:00] | a1fa2: | so i am still using my old systems os |
| [20:14:00] | a1fa2: | it was Athlon 1400+ |
| [20:14:00] | a1fa2: | XP |
| [20:14:00] | a1fa2: | Linux mytivo 2.6.15-1-k7 #1 Tue Jan 3 10:46:46 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| [20:14:00] | rsquared: | yeah... i thought the amd64 gentoo wasn't for the intels |
| [20:15:00] | rsquared: | Linux nooblet 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Thu Feb 23 17:43:54 PST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| [20:15:00] | a1fa2: | time to replace it |
| [20:15:00] | macroexp: | but, is there any gain to running x64 binaries, besides that you get to use up your ram 2x faster? |
| [20:16:00] | rsquared: | if there's an app that's 64 bit |
| [20:16:00] | rsquared: | like.. gcc |
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| [20:17:00] | a1fa2: | ya |
| [20:17:00] | rsquared: | if you compile it for 64 |
| [20:17:00] | rsquared: | would probably compile stuff faster |
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| [20:17:00] | macroexp: | hmph. someone ought to do some benchmarks |
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| [20:18:00] | rsquared: | they have them on the hardware review sites |
| [20:18:00] | Juski: | ricers_r_us.com etc |
| [20:18:00] | aluicious: | ive got some dvd rips from a while ago that i want to make into iso's for use with mythvideo – i tried mkisofs (with the -R option) but when i tried to play the iso from mythvideo xine quits with the error "There is no input plugin avaialable to handle ..." |
| [20:19:00] | rsquared: | oh.. that reminds me.. i'm getting a transcode error on my box |
| [20:19:00] | aluicious: | mythvideo plays iso rips that i made from within myth just fine |
| [20:20:00] | aluicious: | when i try to play one i made using mkisofs and i get the error message in xine, mythfrontend console says "libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed; libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed; libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO." |
| [20:21:00] | aluicious: | is there a different way i should be making the iso images? or should i be using option other than -R with mkisofs? |
| [20:24:00] | AranC23: | I'll bite: aluicious, are you trying to make a DVD or CD-ROM with an iso9660 filesystem on it containing some video file? |
| [20:26:00] | aluicious: | i had ripped some dvds to the filesystem, theyre full rips but not iso images. i want to make iso images out of them for use with mythvideo |
| [20:27:00] | aluicious: | i dont actually want to burn anything... |
| [20:29:00] | AranC23: | what tool did you use to rip them? |
| [20:29:00] | aluicious: | mkisofs |
| [20:29:00] | AranC23: | and is it a single file or a directory structure? |
| [20:29:00] | aluicious: | firectory structure |
| [20:30:00] | AranC23: | you ripped a dvd with mkisofs? oh I see, you mounted it and used mksiofs to recreate an ISO |
| [20:30:00] | AranC23: | except I don't think that will work ;) |
| [20:30:00] | AranC23: | see if you have vobcopy around |
| [20:30:00] | AranC23: | that's what I used in the past, now I use dvddecrypter under wine |
| [20:31:00] | AranC23: | if you mount your dvd and run vobcopy -l -m it recreates the whole dvd as a directory structure |
| [20:31:00] | aluicious: | thats basically what i have |
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| [20:31:00] | aluicious: | the whole dvd as a directory structure |
| [20:31:00] | aluicious: | what i need to do is turn the directory structure into an iso image so i can use it in mythvideo |
| [20:32:00] | AranC23: | I don't think you can use just mkisofs as you described and create something that xine will recognize as a DVD |
| [20:32:00] | AranC23: | vobcopy is really the tool you want |
| [20:32:00] | AranC23: | it doesn't need to be a file for xine to play it, it can be a directory structure btw |
| [20:32:00] | aluicious: | ok – ill check it out. thanks a lot aran |
| [20:32:00] | AranC23: | sure |
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| [20:33:00] | aluicious: | i know – but if i leave it as a directory stucture then its a pain to get it to display the way i want when browsing my dvd collection in mythvideo |
| [20:34:00] | AranC23: | yah, that's why I went to dvd decrypter (among other reasons) because it can rip it straight to a .ISO file which is just more convenient |
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| [20:35:00] | aluicious: | can dvd decryptor convert a directory structure into an iso file? |
| [20:36:00] | AranC23: | I used to make a video directory with vobcopy (outside mythvideo's directory) then make a file that contained the path to that directory in mythvideo's directory with a suffix of .dvddir. Then I had a helper script that was used for playing .dvddir files which read the path and passed it correctly to xine... convoluted and annoying really |
| [20:36:00] | AranC23: | I think so.... |
| [20:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys i have a question |
| [20:36:00] | AranC23: | I know dvd shrink probably can |
| [20:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | u know when you are watching a recorded tv show and u quit in the middle u can come back to it where u left off? |
| [20:36:00] | bird603568: | dvdshrink under wine works for me |
| [20:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | why cant you do that with videos? |
| [20:38:00] | AranC23: | dvdshrink works well for me under wine as well |
| [20:38:00] | AranC23: | Yellow-Snow: are you referring to mythvideo I assume? |
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| [20:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
| [20:39:00] | AranC23: | what video player are you using? |
| [20:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | er xine |
| [20:40:00] | dev-: | im pretty sure xine will do markers |
| [20:40:00] | AranC23: | bookmarking is a feature of mythtv |
| [20:40:00] | AranC23: | and mythvideo isn't tied to any one player |
| [20:41:00] | dev-: | he just said he's useing xine for the player in mythvideo.. |
| [20:41:00] | AranC23: | mythvideo just runs xine, it has no other interaction with the player |
| [20:41:00] | dev-: | im 99% sure xine does markers. |
| [20:41:00] | rsquared: | comcast is lame |
| [20:41:00] | dev-: | have to find out what the key is for it and bind it to your remote, thats all. |
| [20:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | aight |
| [20:41:00] | gbee: | came in half-way through a conversation here ... would anyone fill me in as I might be able to help -> I'm currently rewriting marker code for myth :) |
| [20:41:00] | rsquared: | the guy responded to my email saying: I understand you have questions regarding your PVR. We are unable to provide support for this equipment. As we do not support this equipment I am not sure if there is anything you can do to get it to work, or if you will have to subscribe to Comcast DVR service to get those. Technical support is sometimes available from the store you purchased the equipment from. In addition, there is some h |
| [20:41:00] | rsquared: | information regarding connecting VCRs to cable available at www.Comcast.com under the FAQ section. |
| [20:42:00] | dev-: | gbee: mythvideo usein xine not internal hehe |
| [20:42:00] | rsquared: | so i responded with: Actually, after doing some research, I was told that you guys should be able to turn off the 5C encryption from the firewire output of your cable box which I am renting from you guys. |
| [20:42:00] | dev-: | yeah, xine does marker locations |
| [20:42:00] | AranC23: | gbee: while your here though, if you import a video into mythtv proper, do markers work? will they? |
| [20:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im trying to find the key to mark a location |
| [20:44:00] | dev-: | control+a |
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| [20:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ah |
| [20:44:00] | dev-: | its easiest to just open xine with a video and mess around with the menus :) |
| [20:44:00] | dev-: | you'll find out what keys do what that way. |
| [20:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | =) |
| [20:45:00] | Mersault: | Wow. I just got MythMusic to scan all my music... and damn is the music module ever broken. I mean, it's functional, barely, but the user interface is bad enough that's it's just plain broken. |
| [20:45:00] | Mersault: | unless I'm missing something. |
| [20:45:00] | gbee: | if you use the internal player ... yes you get full marker support, although that is currently limited to a single bookmark or the cutlist |
| [20:45:00] | gbee: | I'm adding support for multiple custom (labelled) markers though |
| [20:46:00] | dev-: | dont go moving the keys around and stuff tho :( |
| [20:46:00] | dev-: | its so simple and effective the current way |
| [20:46:00] | gbee: | nope ... not planning on changing any bindings :) |
| [20:47:00] | dev-: | cool |
| [20:48:00] | gbee: | btw marker support should apply to videos played through mythvideo using the internal player ... not just those imported completely into mythtv |
| [20:48:00] | dev-: | but only svn supports menus right? |
| [20:49:00] | gbee: | out of interest, as I don't use mythvideo myself – for what reasons are people using xine/mplayer etc instead of the internal player? unsupported formats? |
| [20:49:00] | dev-: | menu's in dvd images |
| [20:50:00] | gbee: | yup ... the support was added through stanley's patch after 0.19, although the earlier versions of the patch might apply to 0.19 |
| [20:51:00] | dev-: | cool. |
| [20:51:00] | gbee: | not that a patched 0.19 install would be supported! |
| [20:52:00] | Chutt: | Mersault, you're missing something. |
| [20:52:00] | gbee: | but it did work, I was beta testing the patches long before 0.19 was released :) |
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| [20:52:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [20:52:00] | rsquared: | so.. can they change the 5c on a cable box from their offices, or do they need to visit the cable box themselves? |
| [20:53:00] | Jasper: | what's the english word for a renovation car? |
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| [20:53:00] | Mersault: | Chutt: I dunno. How do I get to my Underworld without scrolling through *everything* that comes before. |
| [20:53:00] | Chutt: | hit 3. |
| [20:53:00] | Chutt: | use the playlist editor. |
| [20:53:00] | Mersault: | Chutt: I even made up some playlists with Artists A-E, etc... |
| [20:53:00] | Chutt: | wow, you mean just like the playlist editor gives you? |
| [20:54:00] | Mersault: | and I have Artists U-Z as my play queue, but the listing starts with Bele Fleck and the Fleckstones |
| [20:54:00] | Mersault: | so, BROKEN |
| [20:54:00] | Chutt: | uh, no |
| [20:54:00] | Chutt: | there's different modes of operation |
| [20:54:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. i'm not a big mythmusic fan |
| [20:55:00] | Chutt: | you seem to not like the tree on the main playback window, so, go disable it. |
| [20:55:00] | Mersault: | and how do I change the modes of operation? how do I make the active queue I see in "Listen to Music" reflect the playlist I have selected |
| [20:55:00] | Chutt: | in the settings? |
| [20:55:00] | Mersault: | I don't see a tree... I just see a listing of every song I have |
| [20:55:00] | ole_schoola: | isn't there someone working on an ajax based redo of the music and video sections in mythweb? |
| [20:55:00] | gbee: | mythmusic could be improved, but it is far from broken |
| [20:56:00] | Mersault: | given the quality of other music programs out there, mythmusic (given about 15 minutes of playing around so far) is bad enough that it could be considered broken. |
| [20:56:00] | Chutt: | http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/newmusic2.jpg |
| [20:56:00] | Chutt: | or |
| [20:56:00] | Chutt: | http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/newmusic.jpg |
| [20:56:00] | Chutt: | which view are you using? |
| [20:57:00] | Mersault: | second one. |
| [20:57:00] | Mersault: | how do I get to the first one? |
| [20:57:00] | Chutt: | if it's listing every song, then that's what you've selected for your play queue. |
| [20:58:00] | Mersault: | I checked play queue in the edit playlist screen. it's set to Artists U-Z |
| [20:58:00] | Mersault: | now, what if I want to sort by genre? |
| [20:58:00] | Chutt: | sort what? |
| [20:58:00] | Chutt: | the playqueue? |
| [20:59:00] | Mersault: | well, or make a playlist of 'electronica' and another of 'blues' |
| [20:59:00] | Mersault: | many of my genre tags are correct enough that this works. |
| [20:59:00] | Chutt: | hit 'm' on the playing screen. |
| [20:59:00] | gbee: | Mersault: have you discovered the menu? hit 'M' |
| [21:01:00] | Mersault: | first, Chutt, how do I get a display like the first screen you linked to? |
| [21:01:00] | Chutt: | it's in the settings |
| [21:02:00] | Mersault: | in 'tree sorting' right? |
| [21:02:00] | Chutt: | no, that's for the edit playlists screen |
| [21:02:00] | dev-: | hey chutt, no problems with livetv.. looking good hombre. |
| [21:02:00] | Chutt: | 'Show entire music tree' |
| [21:02:00] | dev-: | just cuz you dont get enough of it, a big hella thank you for fixing it :) |
| [21:03:00] | electrichamster: | DVB channel changing in 0.19 is reeaaaaallly slow |
| [21:03:00] | electrichamster: | Weird |
| [21:03:00] | Chutt: | heh, thanks. |
| [21:04:00] | otwin: | are the fixes for livetv backend only, or do i have to update my frontend too? |
| [21:04:00] | Chutt: | uh, they're all frontend fixes. |
| [21:05:00] | otwin: | ok – then i will have to wait for a new minimyth release – thanks |
| [21:05:00] | Juski: | otwin: 0.19beta3 contains fixes up to a certain point I believe |
| [21:05:00] | gbee: | electrichamster: someone is working on improving speed in certain scenerios – i.e. one slowdown occurs because the OSD images are being rescaled each time |
| [21:06:00] | electrichamster: | gbee: good to know, I've been getting earache off my housemates since I upgraded it |
| [21:06:00] | otwin: | Juski: i tried that – even build my own using the perforce version |
| [21:06:00] | gbee: | so caching the images for different resolutions should reduce the time some |
| [21:06:00] | Juski: | otwin: fair enough then ;-) |
| [21:07:00] | mos__: | /close |
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| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | /dumbass |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
| [21:08:00] | aluicious: | the answer to my own question from a while ago: to make an iso image from a dvd directory structure on your harddrive the command is "mkisofs -dvd-video -o [iso] [root of dvd directory structure]" — basic... should have found it before i even asked... |
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| [21:11:00] | wh|tey: | anyone here might be able to point me in the right direction as to why I would be getting a 'Could not connect to the master backend server" msg, I am POSITIVE that the mythbackend is started and have even stoped/restarted it to no avail |
| [21:11:00] | Mersault: | Chutt: thanks, I think I have mythmusic sorted out a little better now. although, I still feel that there's a lot left to be desired, it's not broken |
| [21:12:00] | Chutt: | most of the design decisions in mythmusic are due to the lack of buttons. |
| [21:12:00] | Chutt: | and no mouse |
| [21:12:00] | wh|tey: | and just how exactly does this work if I have my mythbox w/ a pvr-150 card connected to it to be able to capture content from my dish network receiver? |
| [21:13:00] | Mersault: | Chutt: maybe it's just that I'm a mac user as well, but it seems like the iTunes interface choices would fit in well with mythmusic and the limitations thereof |
| [21:13:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't, really |
| [21:13:00] | Mersault: | use the remote to jump between selecting genre, artist or album, and have the playlist below update accordingly |
| [21:17:00] | Mersault: | also, does anyone have plans to try and get mythmusic incorporated more into the whole mythtv experience? it would be great to have music playing while watching mythweather, or the photo gallery, etc... |
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| [21:20:00] | sphing: | any news from Greyfoxx of those msntvs? |
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| [21:23:00] | Juski: | how ironic it'll be, if the msntv units end up being useful as lightweight frontend ;-) |
| [21:23:00] | sphing: | they're selling so cheap |
| [21:23:00] | sphing: | like under $20 including shipping |
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| [21:27:00] | Juski: | yeh if you live in the USA.. great |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | so move :) |
| [21:27:00] | Juski: | hmmm. |
| [21:28:00] | sphing: | Juski: where are you |
| [21:28:00] | Juski: | UK |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | merry ole |
| [21:28:00] | sphing: | Juski: Beirdo gets them too ya kno |
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| [21:28:00] | sphing: | Juski: so let me ask you, do I have an accent or do you? |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | you both do |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | I have an English accent though :-P |
| [21:29:00] | sphing: | oot and aboot over there doesn't count ;) |
| [21:29:00] | Jasper: | juski, you happen to know any uk car sites? |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | Jasper: plenty, thanks. what do you have in mind? |
| [21:29:00] | Jasper: | project cars |
| [21:30:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: i actually have quite a thick hispanic accent which I didnt know I had until I moved to school |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | don't buy a British made car (or anything).. they're craptacular |
| [21:30:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [21:30:00] | Jasper: | I'm thinking mgb, e-type, austin healey .. |
| [21:30:00] | Jasper: | something like that |
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| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | sphing, I'm sure I'd understand ya fine... |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | My fiancee being hispanic... |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | my employer obliges me to add 'unless it's a CCTV DVR .. then they're not craptacular' |
| [21:31:00] | sphing: | o yea, I speak perfect english... its just funny cause I didnt know i had it til I moved... |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:31:00] | sphing: | you cant resist our exotic-ness |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | all parts falling off this car are of finest British manufacture |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | s/manufacture/workmanship/ |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | my last car was made by Rover. Biggest piece of rubbish I've ever had the displeasure to drive |
| [21:31:00] | Jasper: | but you know any sites except autotrader or ebay Juski ? |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | that's the word I was looking for |
| [21:32:00] | Jasper: | 8) |
| [21:32:00] | Juski: | Jasper: google is your bestest pal: http://www.kitcarlinks.com/ukmakers.htm |
| [21:33:00] | Jasper: | what's the english word for renovation cars? |
| [21:33:00] | Jasper: | is it project car ? |
| [21:33:00] | Juski: | kit car |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | google for this "kit car uk -'knight rider' " |
| [21:34:00] | Jasper: | isn't a kit car something you build from items..instead of refurbeshing? |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | what am I? A bloody lexicon? |
| [21:34:00] | Jasper: | 8) |
| [21:35:00] | Jasper: | well...I'm not a native speaker.... |
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| [21:35:00] | Juski: | kit, project, rebuild .... |
| [21:35:00] | Juski: | restoration... |
| [21:35:00] | sphing: | Juski: i love the -knight rider |
| [21:35:00] | sphing: | thats so funny |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | "michael, what are you doing with my gear stick? .. Michael!" |
| [21:39:00] | gbee: | Juski: are you going to pay to repair my laptop? I've sprayed beer all over it! |
| [21:39:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [21:39:00] | Juski: | I better go watch some of my 226GB of recordings |
| [21:40:00] | sphing: | theres really nothing better than having a really busy week... then firing up mythtv on friday... and seeing like 8 of your favorite shows |
| [21:40:00] | sphing: | ... ah yes... vegetation time |
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| [21:51:00] | a1fa2: | sphing : true true |
| [21:51:00] | a1fa2: | you know whats even better? |
| [21:51:00] | a1fa2: | watching god damn lost and prison break w/o interuption |
| [21:51:00] | sphing: | never seen lost |
| [21:52:00] | sphing: | althought I'm renting the DVDs this weekend... |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa2: | lost is ok |
| [21:52:00] | sandos: | he, swedes generally dont have commercials since TV is lagging behind our downloaded episodes.. theres_really_ no reason to watch it on TV since I get both delay AND commercials :) |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa2: | 1/4th of the show is a repeat |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa2: | from previous show |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa2: | 1/4th is their memories |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa2: | 1/4th is unecessary drama |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa2: | 1/4th is new show |
| [21:52:00] | sandos: | its a drama series.. how can it be unneccesary ;) |
| [21:53:00] | a1fa2: | sandos : no..like drama as in soappy material |
| [21:53:00] | kormoc: | drama and memories are new, so it's 3/4 new, 1/4 good new :P |
| [21:53:00] | a1fa2: | no |
| [21:53:00] | a1fa2: | its more like 1/2 old 1/2 new |
| [21:53:00] | sandos: | but I agree that it has gotten less good. although I still enjoy it. but Watching episoded back-to-back is so much better when you get to used to it.. maybe I should stop watching until its sent its fifth or whatever episode =) |
| [21:53:00] | a1fa2: | prison break is coming out |
| [21:53:00] | a1fa2: | on the 10th |
| [21:54:00] | a1fa2: | my 2nd favorite show |
| [21:54:00] | sandos: | oh, btw |
| [21:54:00] | sandos: | in how many hours do lost air in the US? at the earliest? |
| [21:54:00] | a1fa2: | the only reason i built mythtv is bcos i was out most of the time |
| [21:54:00] | a1fa2: | and I was missing LOST and PRISON BREAK |
| [21:54:00] | a1fa2: | ended up having AMD64 3200+ for my backend |
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| [21:54:00] | a1fa2: | and about to have xbox as my frontend |
| [21:55:00] | sphing: | everyone has these powerful machines, my main backend is a p3–500 and my commflagger is a celeron-733 |
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| [21:56:00] | a1fa2: | i spent half-a-g for my backend |
| [21:56:00] | bird603568: | can i run a back and front end on a 933mhz? |
| [21:56:00] | dtm: | a1fa2: how's xbox workin out? have you used xbmc? |
| [21:56:00] | a1fa2: | dtm : not yet |
| [21:56:00] | sphing: | dtm: my xbox nice |
| [21:56:00] | sphing: | linux not xbmc |
| [21:56:00] | dtm: | bird603568: i hereby grant you permission to do so |
| [21:56:00] | a1fa2: | dtm : i am faxing my xbox tonight |
| [21:56:00] | a1fa2: | i am thinking of running xebian |
| [21:56:00] | dtm: | :-. |
| [21:56:00] | dtm: | a1fa2: define 'faxing' :) |
| [21:56:00] | bird603568: | but will it work? |
| [21:56:00] | a1fa2: | dtm : softmodding it |
| [21:57:00] | dtm: | bird603568: crystal ball says OUTLOOK UNKNOWN |
| [21:57:00] | sphing: | bird603568: it has more to do with everything else than the speed |
| [21:57:00] | sphing: | ie hardware encoder decent video card |
| [21:57:00] | dtm: | dang we need a web form that'll force people to input their configuration, in response to "will XXXXX work?" |
| [21:57:00] | sphing: | alfa2: friend of mine just got xebian running on his and he says its choppy |
| [21:58:00] | a1fa2: | thats bcos he doesnt have dma enabled |
| [21:58:00] | sphing: | dtm: simple HTML page... OUTLOOK UNKNOWN |
| [21:58:00] | sandos: | hehe |
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| [21:58:00] | dtm: | sphing: hahahaahhh |
| [21:58:00] | sphing: | alfa2: my gentoo install took a little bit, bu tit ones quite well |
| [21:58:00] | dtm: | sphing: what is exactly? |
| [21:58:00] | dtm: | sphing: frontend or backend orwhat |
| [21:58:00] | sphing: | for the xbox? |
| [21:58:00] | sphing: | just fe |
| [21:59:00] | sandos: | backend on a xbox would be.. interesting =) |
| [21:59:00] | sandos: | tuner in a xbox? |
| [22:00:00] | a1fa2: | HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted |
| [22:00:00] | a1fa2: | i am still battling this shit |
| [22:00:00] | rsquared: | sata? |
| [22:00:00] | dtm: | i'm curious to know how xbmc compares to mythtv. i've only used xbmc at a friend's house. |
| [22:00:00] | dtm: | and mythtv at my place |
| [22:00:00] | a1fa2: | xbmc+mythtv |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa2: | its easy |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa2: | all the recorded shows are allready there |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa2: | all you need to do is connect to the database |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa2: | and leech them out |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa2: | s/leech/stream/ |
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| [22:02:00] | a1fa2: | commercial skipping will not work |
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| [22:02:00] | dtm: | a1fa2: xbmc and mythtv overlap quite a bit in functionality, don't they? why would xbmc still be needed? |
| [22:03:00] | a1fa2: | it has some nice features |
| [22:03:00] | a1fa2: | xlink, etc |
| [22:04:00] | hydroksyde: | quick survey:: what is your favorite DVD/movie player, and why? do you use something else for videos/DVDs in mythtv? why? |
| [22:04:00] | sphing: | alfa2: I can send you my gentoo install |
| [22:05:00] | a1fa2: | i am not a gentoo fan |
| [22:05:00] | a1fa2: | hydroksyde : mplayer |
| [22:05:00] | a1fa2: | i am out |
| [22:05:00] | a1fa2: | meeting |
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| [22:06:00] | dev-: | mplayer is alright, but it doesnt support dvd menus which is kind of a bummer. xine does however. |
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| [22:07:00] | hydroksyde: | i'm using xine for that reason |
| [22:07:00] | sphing: | ogle has the best dvd menus |
| [22:07:00] | sphing: | but is much more cpu intensive than wine |
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| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | or you could use a real DVD player :) |
| [22:07:00] | sphing: | BOOOO |
| [22:07:00] | Mersault: | and take away all the fun? |
| [22:08:00] | Hoxzer: | can I somehow see what mythbackend is doing without restarting it in terminal? |
| [22:08:00] | dev-: | yeah i do, i <3 progressive scan |
| [22:08:00] | dev-: | plus i dont use spdif out or even have a dvdrom in my frontends heh |
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| [22:09:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer: did you pipe the output somewhere or run it in screen? |
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| [22:09:00] | Hoxzer: | sphing: I have the command for it it in boot script |
| [22:09:00] | Hoxzer: | it is not in screen |
| [22:09:00] | dev-: | use --verbose quiet |
| [22:09:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer: you cant |
| [22:09:00] | dev-: | then you can checkout /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [22:10:00] | dev-: | --verbose quiet gives you decent logging without too much bs |
| [22:10:00] | Mersault: | is there a way to make the number buttons on my remote (which have corresponding letters like a phone) move me about a selection screen in mythmusic or mythgame? |
| [22:10:00] | dev-: | (as long as your bootscript uses --logfile anyway, which i think all of them do by default) |
| [22:11:00] | Mersault: | as in, if I want to pick a game or artist that starts with 'P' I could hit 7 and end up at the P's? |
| [22:12:00] | gbee: | hydroksyde: I use the internal player, has menu support (in svn) and is properly integrated with Myth |
| [22:14:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | does anyone know what the changes are to mythtv in gentoo's portage? |
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| [22:15:00] | dev-: | be more specific |
| [22:16:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | well, I have .19 installed now, but there are .19-r1 and .19_p9163 |
| [22:16:00] | dev-: | p9163 are fixes up to 9163 |
| [22:16:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ah, ok |
| [22:16:00] | dev-: | if you're not having any problems, though, there's no point in updating |
| [22:17:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ok then, I'll just hold off |
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| [22:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm also having a problem with mythmusic.. I store my music on an external vfat hard drive, and whenever I go into mythmusic, it scans for new songs, but never finds any |
| [22:19:00] | dev-: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline are the changes if you're curious |
| [22:20:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | dev-: thanks, I'll check it out |
| [22:21:00] | gbee: | nothing in there which fixes "not finding new songs on external vfat hard drive" – just in case you should go looking :) |
| [22:21:00] | gbee: | and the timeline includes fixes which are not in the .19 fixes branch |
| [22:21:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | well, didn't figure it would |
| [22:21:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | gbee: you mean fixes that will be in .20? |
| [22:21:00] | dev-: | gbee: thats why cardoe renamed the ebuilds to what fixes are included in it |
| [22:22:00] | gbee: | JoeyJoeJo: yes, most of what appears in the timeline would be features, fixes etc for the 0.20 release |
| [22:22:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | cool |
| [22:23:00] | dev-: | or maybe .19.1 ;) |
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| [22:30:00] | achew22_: | will someone help me setup lirc? |
| [22:33:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | what are you having trouble with? |
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| [22:33:00] | Jasper^bed: | whyyyyyyy |
| [22:33:00] | Jasper^bed: | :( |
| [22:34:00] | achew22_: | I followed the tutorial at abarbaccia.com and when I run modprobe -ae it says FATAL: Module lirc_i2c not found. |
| [22:35:00] | achew22_: | JoeyJoeJo, you have any ideas? |
| [22:35:00] | Jasper^bed: | you don't have the module in your kernel? |
| [22:35:00] | achew22_: | how do I add it — I added the alias |
| [22:35:00] | Jasper^bed: | what kinda ir is it? |
| [22:35:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | achew22: I'm looking at the tutorial now |
| [22:35:00] | achew22_: | I compiled it |
| [22:35:00] | Jasper^bed: | serial? |
| [22:36:00] | achew22_: | yeah, through serial |
| [22:36:00] | Jasper^bed: | this is really unbelievable.. |
| [22:36:00] | Jasper^bed: | I get home...and hear a ticking sound coming from my mythbox.. |
| [22:36:00] | achew22_: | I have a pvr-150 and pvr-250 but I would llike use this since it has a better cord |
| [22:36:00] | Jasper^bed: | appears my hd is ticking like a loonatic...it's broken |
| [22:36:00] | Jasper^bed: | ffs |
| [22:36:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | achew22: so you are using the remote with you tv cards? |
| [22:37:00] | achew22_: | no |
| [22:37:00] | Jasper^bed: | do you have a serial? |
| [22:37:00] | achew22_: | i am using the serial thingy that I got a long time ago — it has a better range of view and a better cable |
| [22:37:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | then you need to use the lirc_serial module |
| [22:37:00] | achew22_: | okay... |
| [22:37:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | lirc_i2c is for wintv card remotes |
| [22:38:00] | achew22_: | ohh — I learn more... |
| [22:38:00] | Jasper^bed: | DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK...NOOOOO |
| [22:38:00] | Jasper^bed: | :( |
| [22:38:00] | rsquared: | take the non bootable floppy out ;) |
| [22:38:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | Jasper: that hurts me, so I know it must be horrible for you |
| [22:38:00] | Jasper^bed: | I just had the install completed after 1,5 week of getting xvmc to work |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | :( |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | I wanna die.. |
| [22:39:00] | rsquared: | Jasper^bed: you try booting from knoppix and see if you can get your data? |
| [22:39:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | don't get me started on xvmc |
| [22:39:00] | rsquared: | haha.. xvmc is half of the reason i bought new hardware |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | rsquared I don't think so...it was ticking like a loonatic |
| [22:39:00] | Jasper^bed: | TICK TICK TICK TICK |
| [22:39:00] | rsquared: | well.. it's worth a shot |
| [22:39:00] | rsquared: | you can probably salvage some of the data |
| [22:40:00] | Jasper^bed: | whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
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| [22:40:00] | Jasper: | I wanna throw with some stuff |
| [22:43:00] | Jasper: | how can a HD go ticking all of a sudden? |
| [22:43:00] | rsquared: | it has moving parts |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | yes I know |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | but how can it so suddenly brake... |
| [22:44:00] | rsquared: | seriously though... it may not be as bad as you think |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | GODDAMN! |
| [22:44:00] | rsquared: | have you tried booting off a cd? |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | rsquared it is.. |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | the IRC logs cause about 1.6G/month traffic |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:44:00] | rsquared: | and mounting? |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | rsquared ....how can this not be bad... |
| [22:44:00] | Jasper: | even if I can get to it....I still need to buy a new hd.. |
| [22:45:00] | rsquared: | yeah |
| [22:45:00] | rsquared: | but that's the least of your problems |
| [22:45:00] | Jasper: | omg.. |
| [22:45:00] | Jasper: | I'm gonna put something on fire.. |
| [22:45:00] | ** rsquared finds data more important than hardware ** | |
| [22:45:00] | rsquared: | but that's just me |
| [22:45:00] | Jasper: | rsquared there was no data on it.. |
| [22:45:00] | rsquared: | oh |
| [22:45:00] | Jasper: | I just finished installing it completely after 3 weeks of work |
| [22:45:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [22:45:00] | rsquared: | well... maybe you can copy your /etc/ dir |
| [22:45:00] | rsquared: | :) |
| [22:46:00] | rsquared: | what os? |
| [22:46:00] | Jasper: | gentoo.. |
| [22:46:00] | rsquared: | oh |
| [22:46:00] | ** Jasper feels like crying.. ** | |
| [22:46:00] | rsquared: | ... now i feel your pain? |
| [22:46:00] | rsquared: | umm.. remove the ? |
| [22:46:00] | rsquared: | how fast is the box? |
| [22:46:00] | Jasper: | 800 |
| [22:46:00] | rsquared: | ok.. then i definitely feel your pain |
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| [22:47:00] | Jasper: | this is the second time in like 10 years this has happend to me.. |
| [22:47:00] | Jasper: | why NOWQ! |
| [22:47:00] | rsquared: | the gentoo gods want you to become a more patient person |
| [22:47:00] | Jasper: | Juski you're not gonna believe this.. |
| [22:48:00] | rsquared: | you should've had it build binaries packages after everything was working |
| [22:48:00] | rsquared: | actually.. i should do that on my box |
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| [22:48:00] | Jasper: | yeah...well ...I was too happy everything was working I guess.. |
| [22:48:00] | Jasper: | only transcoding didn't work yet ;( |
| [22:48:00] | rsquared: | yeah... i'm getting errors on my transcoding |
| [22:49:00] | rsquared: | would your jobs just fail? |
| [22:49:00] | Jasper: | no they succeeded |
| [22:49:00] | Jasper: | but then the files were nowhere to be found |
| [22:49:00] | Jasper: | ;P |
| [22:49:00] | Juski: | transcoding is not anything to lose sleep over |
| [22:49:00] | Jasper: | Juski ...my HD crashed.. |
| [22:49:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. my jobs just fail |
| [22:49:00] | Jasper: | that is.. |
| [22:49:00] | Juski: | not in the big scheme of things |
| [22:49:00] | Jasper: | Juski it was just ticking when I got home.. |
| [22:50:00] | Juski: | now you have to buy a nice big HDD, and reinstall using ubuntu :-) |
| [22:50:00] | Jasper: | I feel so sad.. |
| [22:50:00] | Jasper: | all these hours of work |
| [22:50:00] | Juski: | I lost my system to a rm -rf * in my root directory once. never again I say |
| [22:51:00] | rsquared: | sudo is your friend |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | sucky |
| [22:51:00] | Jasper: | sad thing is...got no money for a new HD Juski :( |
| [22:51:00] | rsquared: | and god invented credit.... |
| [22:51:00] | ** rsquared hates credit ** | |
| [22:51:00] | rsquared: | although i do sleep better at night now |
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| [22:52:00] | Juski: | Jasper: best get sacrificing that windows machine then eh |
| [22:52:00] | Jasper: | god also invented debet I guess. |
| [22:52:00] | Jasper: | .which windows machine Juski ? |
| [22:52:00] | Jasper: | my laptop? |
| [22:52:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. i got plenty of debt |
| [22:53:00] | achew22_: | okay — so I did a little changing and changed it to lirc_serial from lirc_ic2 FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial Device or resource busy |
| [22:53:00] | achew22_: | how do I make it... not... busy |
| [22:53:00] | rsquared: | achew22_: lsmod | grep lirc |
| [22:53:00] | Jasper: | achew22_ try setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none |
| [22:53:00] | rsquared: | then ps -aux | grep lirc |
| [22:53:00] | rsquared: | and also what Jasper says |
| [22:54:00] | Jasper: | hmmmm do they still sell normal harddrives? |
| [22:54:00] | rsquared: | ata? |
| [22:54:00] | Jasper: | like NON SATA |
| [22:54:00] | rsquared: | yeah |
| [22:54:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [22:54:00] | rsquared: | they're pretty cheap |
| [22:54:00] | Jasper: | I need a old harddisk |
| [22:54:00] | Jasper: | for my old crappy stuff |
| [22:54:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [22:54:00] | rsquared: | it sucks, cuz i have a 200gb and a 250gb pata drives |
| [22:54:00] | rsquared: | and i don't want to put them in my new box |
| [22:54:00] | rsquared: | but i need the space |
| [22:54:00] | achew22_: | rsquared, lsmod | grep lirc returned lirc_dev 12484 0 |
| [22:55:00] | Jasper: | I Guess sata doesn't work on ata? |
| [22:55:00] | rsquared: | you can get an adapter |
| [22:55:00] | rsquared: | but it's not worth the money |
| [22:55:00] | rsquared: | since sataII is so much faster |
| [22:55:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [22:55:00] | Jasper: | but I can't get sataII on my pc.. |
| [22:55:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [22:56:00] | rsquared: | w/a pci card you probably could |
| [22:56:00] | Jasper: | but I couldn't boot from it then |
| [22:56:00] | achew22_: | rsquared, did you see that? |
| [22:56:00] | rsquared: | you probably could |
| [22:56:00] | ** Jasper is gonna look for a cheap all-in-one computer...just for the cpu, motherboard and harddisk ** | |
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| [22:56:00] | rsquared: | achew22_: you try to modprobe lirc_serial? |
| [22:57:00] | rsquared: | Jasper: I was gonna do that |
| [22:57:00] | rsquared: | then i was like.. this thing's gonna be as slow as my current box |
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| [22:57:00] | rsquared: | and it can't be upgraded/expanded/etc |
| [22:57:00] | rsquared: | so i said screw it and built nooblet |
| [22:57:00] | rsquared: | it was expensive though |
| [22:57:00] | achew22_: | rsquared, its still in use |
| [22:57:00] | Jasper: | hmm...but investing 200 euro for a new harddisk...and then still have a 800 mhz.. |
| [22:57:00] | Jasper: | kinda silly.. |
| [22:58:00] | Jasper: | if for 400 you have a new cpu, motherboard, harddisk |
| [22:58:00] | rsquared: | that's pretty cheap |
| [22:58:00] | rsquared: | hell.. i need to sell my old box |
| [22:58:00] | Jasper: | maybe I can get a second hand |
| [22:59:00] | rsquared: | i wonder if 400 is reasonable for a p4 2.8 533fsb w/1gb ram, 80gb hdd, sb audigy, 5200fx |
| [22:59:00] | achew22_: | rsquared, any ideas? |
| [22:59:00] | rsquared: | achew22_: what's in use? |
| [22:59:00] | Jasper: | I think it is rsquared |
| [22:59:00] | rsquared: | lirc_serial? |
| [22:59:00] | achew22_: | yeah |
| [22:59:00] | rsquared: | Jasper: I'm talkin USD |
| [22:59:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [22:59:00] | Jasper: | bit low.. |
| [22:59:00] | achew22_: | /lib/modules/2.6.12-10–686/misc/lirc_serial.ko is in use |
| [23:00:00] | rsquared: | achew22_: you don't see it listed when you lsmod? |
| [23:00:00] | rsquared: | Jasper: that's kinda what i was thinking |
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| [23:00:00] | AranC23: | anyone have troubles canceling lossless mpeg2 transcode jobs? |
| [23:00:00] | rsquared: | it also has an antec case/psu w/fans/fan controller/etc |
| [23:00:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [23:00:00] | Jasper: | make it like 600 dollar |
| [23:00:00] | rsquared: | cancelling? hell.. i'm having problems getting them to run |
| [23:00:00] | achew22_: | lirc_dev is the only one thats on the lsmod list |
| [23:00:00] | rsquared: | try to rmmod lirc_dev |
| [23:00:00] | rsquared: | then modprobe lirc_serial |
| [23:01:00] | rsquared: | see if that changes anything |
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| [23:01:00] | achew22_: | FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10–686/misc/lirc_serial.ko): Device or resource busy |
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| [23:02:00] | rsquared: | you google that? |
| [23:02:00] | rsquared: | or something similar? |
| [23:02:00] | achew22_: | not many results |
| [23:02:00] | rsquared: | take out the kernel version number |
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| [23:02:00] | achew22_: | ohh remove the uri to it |
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| [23:03:00] | AranC23: | don't you have to run setserial before you insert lirc_serial |
| [23:03:00] | Jasper: | something similar I guess |
| [23:03:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [23:03:00] | Jasper: | setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none |
| [23:03:00] | ** rsquared has no clue about serial ** | |
| [23:03:00] | Jasper: | see what that does with dmesg |
| [23:04:00] | achew22_: | i'm going to try rebooting Be back soon |
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| [23:05:00] | AranC23: | I can't cancel this mpeg2 mythtranscode job, if I kill mythtranscode it just restarts it, if I do "stop transcoding" it ignores me |
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| [23:05:00] | AranC23: | and while it's running I can't cancel other jobs that might be schedule either |
| [23:05:00] | Jasper: | rsquared 150 euro for second hand |
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| [23:05:00] | rsquared: | for a hdd? |
| [23:05:00] | Jasper: | :;p |
| [23:05:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [23:06:00] | Jasper: | Pentium 4 processor 2.8 2800Mhz |
| [23:06:00] | Jasper: | complete system |
| [23:06:00] | rsquared: | hrm |
| [23:06:00] | Jasper: | with 80 SATA gig harddisk 7200 rpm |
| [23:06:00] | ivorwe is now known as ivor | |
| [23:06:00] | unicorn___: | hi all. question about xine and mythtv. I understand mythtv has an internal player. does it use the xine-libs or mplayer for playback? If yes how does it control xvmc playback? |
| [23:06:00] | rsquared: | this is my old box |
| [23:06:00] | rsquared: | http://russ.angrypacket.com/gallery/2006-01-20-nooblet/dsc00731 |
| [23:07:00] | Jasper: | unicorn___ you can set it yourself |
| [23:07:00] | Jasper: | in setup...which to use |
| [23:07:00] | AranC23: | well, it doesn't use xine or mplayer really |
| [23:07:00] | AranC23: | or xine-libs |
| [23:07:00] | Jasper: | damn rsquared it's pimped |
| [23:07:00] | Jasper: | ;P |
| [23:07:00] | unicorn___: | problem is that I am enabling xvmc in xine and bob but the picture is not good, jitter |
| [23:08:00] | Mersault: | I'm having trouble finding mod_env for ubuntu in order to make mythweb work properly, anyone know the ins and outs of getting mod_env on ubuntu? |
| [23:08:00] | AranC23: | so, you're using the internal player but configuring xine? |
| [23:08:00] | rsquared: | lol jasper... you should see the cooling fan on my new one ;) |
| [23:08:00] | Jasper: | what kind is it? |
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| [23:08:00] | rsquared: | http://russ.angrypacket.com/gallery/2006-01-20-nooblet/dsc00752 |
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| [23:08:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, I wan to compare which has the best deinterlace with acceptable frame rate |
| [23:09:00] | Jasper: | yo rsquared we got the same graphic cooler |
| [23:09:00] | rsquared: | hehe.. nice |
| [23:09:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. zalman makes good stuff |
| [23:09:00] | rsquared: | i spent way too much on this machien |
| [23:09:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: in mythvideo or mythtv? |
| [23:09:00] | Jasper: | why didn't you put a zalman on your cpu? |
| [23:09:00] | unicorn___: | running on an AMD64 3700+ san diego, and get dropped frames when using deinterlace |
| [23:10:00] | Jasper: | didn't fit? |
| [23:10:00] | rsquared: | i did |
| [23:10:00] | rsquared: | that is a zalman |
| [23:10:00] | Jasper: | it is? |
| [23:10:00] | unicorn___: | mythvideo |
| [23:10:00] | rsquared: | yeah |
| [23:10:00] | Jasper: | I thought they only made the round ones |
| [23:10:00] | Jasper: | the VERY big round ones |
| [23:10:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:10:00] | rsquared: | this thing is pretty damn big |
| [23:10:00] | rsquared: | http://russ.angrypacket.com/gallery/2006-01-20-nooblet/dsc00759 |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | what is pata? |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | parallel ATA |
| [23:11:00] | rsquared: | http://russ.angrypacket.com/gallery/2006-01-20-nooblet/dsc00740 |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | aka IDE |
| [23:11:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: then the internal player probably uses the settings in Setup/TV/Playback |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | so pata is just the same ? |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | as IDE |
| [23:11:00] | rsquared: | Jasper: yeah |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | it's 100 euro for 300 gigh |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | new disk |
| [23:11:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: you can choose between xvmc, libmpeg2, default (ffmpeg) and set your deinterlacer |
| [23:12:00] | rsquared: | not bad |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | no it aint..but still |
| [23:12:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesnt mythvideo use an externa player, either mplayer or xine also defined by the file types? |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | is my computer worth it.. |
| [23:12:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. i hear you |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | 800 mhz.. |
| [23:12:00] | rsquared: | haha |
| [23:12:00] | rsquared: | probably not |
| [23:13:00] | Juski: | Jasper: put a zalman Cu sink on your CPU & you'd never hear it ;-) |
| [23:13:00] | rsquared: | the only reason why i deal w/a sub 1ghz machine is because it's my notebook |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | Juski I know..but then they have to fit |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [23:13:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: mythtv always uses the internal player, mythvideo can use the internal player or mplayer/xine/etc. |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | they are so damn big |
| [23:13:00] | rsquared: | Jasper: that's why i got the one i got |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | you need a big tower for it.. |
| [23:13:00] | rsquared: | because the other ones don't fit my motherboard |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | yeah rsquared that's the problem I had too |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | the round one just didn't fit |
| [23:14:00] | rsquared: | but they probably don't make the vertical ones for your cpu |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | I didn't know they made good other shapes |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | dunno |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | it wasn't my cpu |
| [23:14:00] | Juski: | actually I have a Zalman HS I can flog on the Fleabay |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | was my parents |
| [23:15:00] | Mersault: | I'm having trouble finding mod_env for ubuntu in order to make mythweb work properly, anyone know the ins and outs of getting mod_env on ubuntu? |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | make some money on the shipping – weighs about a kilo! |
| [23:15:00] | rsquared: | lol |
| [23:15:00] | macroexp: | Mersault, i think it's built in |
| [23:15:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. my new computer weighs a ton |
| [23:15:00] | rsquared: | esp w/the double walled case |
| [23:15:00] | macroexp: | Mersault, i remember looking for it and ignoring it when it worked |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | Mersault: same as mod_env in every other apache2 config... you may need to enable mod_rewrite though |
| [23:16:00] | Mersault: | I've enabled mod_rewrite |
| [23:16:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, in tv/playback I have deinterlace, bob 2x and xvmc. I load a video and play it (i have no file type defined). I suppose it will use the internal player |
| [23:16:00] | unicorn___: | picture is not good |
| [23:16:00] | Mersault: | but mod_env doesn't exist in /etc/apache/mods-available |
| [23:16:00] | Jasper: | I need to get a job.. |
| [23:16:00] | macroexp: | i had issues with the php mysql module not loading automatically. i had to add a few lines to the db include file to get mythweb to run (ubuntu 5.04) |
| [23:16:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. those help when you wanna buy stuff |
| [23:16:00] | rsquared: | speaking of work.. i should probably do some since i am at work |
| [23:17:00] | Juski: | unicorn___: you mean you have a recording or a video? |
| [23:17:00] | rsquared: | and getting paid |
| [23:17:00] | Mersault: | macroexp: happen to recall what those lines were? |
| [23:17:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: not sure how that works as I've never used the internal player for mythvideo, but if the OSD stuff looks like mythtv proper it's certainly mythtv's internal player, if it looks like xine, it's xine |
| [23:17:00] | macroexp: | hold on i'll throw it up on pastebin |
| [23:17:00] | Juski: | it's mplayer by default for mythvideo, IIRC |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | where do you live rsquared ? |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | usa? |
| [23:17:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. northern cali |
| [23:17:00] | AranC23: | of course it can't use xvmc on anything but mpeg2... and I don't think it can really use any de-interlacer except bob with xvmc iirc |
| [23:17:00] | AranC23: | I wouldn't use xvmc if I was you... use the default |
| [23:18:00] | AranC23: | xvmc also ignores the filters section |
| [23:18:00] | unicorn___: | yeah I removed mplayer default, it looks like it's better now |
| [23:18:00] | Jasper: | I used xvmc.. |
| [23:18:00] | AranC23: | I use xvmc only because my machine isn't fast enough to play back HD recordings without it... otherwise junk it |
| [23:18:00] | Jasper: | mind the 80 SATA gig harddisk 7200 rpm |
| [23:18:00] | Jasper: | woops |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | xine is good, better than mplayer, certainly when it comes to dvd playback |
| [23:18:00] | Jasper: | for menu's |
| [23:18:00] | rsquared: | AranC23: i had to do the same thing w/my old box, but the OSD would freak out to no end |
| [23:19:00] | Jasper: | rsquared I had that problem too |
| [23:19:00] | Jasper: | major laggg with the osd |
| [23:19:00] | AranC23: | rsquared: yah you have to turn on ChromaKeyOSD to have a chance |
| [23:19:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, do you use xvmc from internal player with bob? |
| [23:19:00] | AranC23: | yes |
| [23:19:00] | rsquared: | eh.. too late now.. i can do hd w/out xvmc now :) |
| [23:19:00] | AranC23: | but only out of necessity |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | btw if you deinterlace xvid/dvix etc it looks _awful_ |
| [23:19:00] | rsquared: | AranC23: you use comcast? |
| [23:19:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, so you never use xine for videos? |
| [23:19:00] | AranC23: | but I don't use the internal player for mythvideo, I use xine |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | hmm is AMD worth looking at? |
| [23:20:00] | rsquared: | yeah |
| [23:20:00] | rsquared: | i almost got one |
| [23:20:00] | rsquared: | but they didn't have any in stock |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | the last time I looked at AMD was when there were pentium's 166 MMX! |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:20:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: in xine I use auto (or xv) |
| [23:20:00] | rsquared: | so i went fro the dual core intel 64 instead |
| [23:20:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, for what do u use internal? |
| [23:20:00] | AranC23: | normal mythtv |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | how's amd performance? |
| [23:20:00] | rsquared: | lol Jasper yeah.. they're way better now |
| [23:20:00] | rsquared: | good |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | is it the same? |
| [23:20:00] | AranC23: | watching recorded shows, from pvr card, hd cards, etc. |
| [23:20:00] | rsquared: | if not better |
| [23:21:00] | Jasper: | because I remember them being so much worse then pentium |
| [23:21:00] | Jasper: | that I never took another look at them |
| [23:21:00] | rsquared: | that was a long time ago |
| [23:21:00] | AranC23: | Jasper: 5 years ago? |
| [23:21:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [23:21:00] | rsquared: | yeah.. they've come a looooooooooong way |
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| [23:21:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, so for mythvideo xine is fast? |
| [23:21:00] | AranC23: | your computer is so fast fast is irrelavent |
| [23:21:00] | macroexp: | Mersault, http://pastebin.ca/44160 |
| [23:22:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, just tryin to understand the reason for using xine |
| [23:22:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: I would turn off xvmc and never look at it again |
| [23:22:00] | Jasper: | do all mb's still have agp btw? |
| [23:22:00] | Jasper: | or is that getting dumped also? |
| [23:22:00] | macroexp: | Mersault, i added the lines inbetween the ubuntu comments. |
| [23:22:00] | Mersault: | macroexp: actually, I discovered just now that I had the override directive and whatnot set to the wrong directory in apache2.conf |
| [23:23:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: I use xine because I set up mythtv long before using the internal player for mythvideo was even an option |
| [23:23:00] | macroexp: | yeah that override thing is important |
| [23:23:00] | Mersault: | but thanks, all the same. now I'm just getting a Database Access Denied error |
| [23:23:00] | macroexp: | but i'd be surprised if it works without adding the @dl thing |
| [23:23:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: and now I keep using it because I have to use xvmc for HD recordings in mythtv and I don't want to use xvmc in mythvideo for watching dvds... so I |
| [23:23:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, turn off xvmc, and use xine for everything? |
| [23:23:00] | macroexp: | ah, access denied probably means it's actually finding the mysql bit |
| [23:24:00] | AranC23: | xvmc can be used in xine and mythtv's built in player |
| [23:24:00] | AranC23: | I would not use xvmc in either |
| [23:24:00] | AranC23: | in mythtv I would set the playback setting to default |
| [23:24:00] | unicorn___: | why not? because of the bob deinterlacer? |
| [23:24:00] | AranC23: | partly, and because the OSD can be wonky |
| [23:24:00] | AranC23: | and because you can't use the filters |
| [23:25:00] | Jasper: | what kinda work do you do rsquared ? |
| [23:25:00] | AranC23: | like denoise3d, etc. |
| [23:25:00] | Mersault: | macroexp: yeah. what's strange though is that my .htaccess file is correct. |
| [23:25:00] | Mersault: | do I need to configure /use/share/mythtv/mythweb/config/conf.php at all? |
| [23:26:00] | Jasper: | hmm maybe a dual processor cpu is interesting.. |
| [23:26:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, so u recommend I turn off xvmc, use deinterlacer kernel, and MPEG2 playback libmpeg2? |
| [23:26:00] | AranC23: | I would use the default playback |
| [23:26:00] | AranC23: | not libmpeg2 |
| [23:26:00] | Jasper: | what speed is your box unicorn___ ? |
| [23:27:00] | AranC23: | but you can check it yourself and see if you notice a difference |
| [23:27:00] | unicorn___: | default is called "Standard" |
| [23:27:00] | unicorn___: | ? |
| [23:27:00] | AranC23: | oh, ok standard then |
| [23:27:00] | macroexp: | i was getting the message "you need the php mysql libraries, you dummy" message, even though they were all installed... it just wasn't loading it. but no i didn't change anything in conf.php |
| [23:27:00] | unicorn___: | Jasper, it's AMD64 3700+ san diego |
| [23:27:00] | unicorn___: | AranC23, just wanted to be sure that is the dafault one :) |
| [23:28:00] | AranC23: | yah, I guess I thought it was called Default ! |
| [23:28:00] | Jasper: | why would you need xvmc then unicorn___ ? |
| [23:28:00] | unicorn___: | my problem is that with xine, when I use deinterlacing the video is bad, too many dropped frames |
| [23:28:00] | Jasper: | your use HD? |
| [23:28:00] | unicorn___: | even though cpu usage is low |
| [23:29:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: try setting the decoder in xine to xv or auto or something |
| [23:29:00] | AranC23: | maybe xvmc is just a little broken on your setup |
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| [23:29:00] | AranC23: | xine looks super killer on my DVD's and various random .avi type files |
| [23:29:00] | unicorn___: | also I can't use greedy2frame from tvtime, because of the 64 bit setup I have (mmx instructions) |
| [23:29:00] | AranC23: | I don't recall what deinterlacer I use though |
| [23:30:00] | unicorn___: | I mean greedy2frame from xine->tvtime |
| [23:30:00] | Jasper: | oh, I hate these advertisements...ppl wanting more money because the system is totaly installed with windows.. |
| [23:31:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: ahh... that's why I always figured that If I got an athlon64 I'd be doing a 32 bit install |
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| [23:31:00] | Mersault: | hmmm... if I try and log into phpmyadmin using a username of 'mythtv' and a password of 'mythtv', assuming I went with the defaults all the way through, I should be able to access the mythconverg database, right? |
| [23:31:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: I'm sure it'll all be straightened out someday, I'm just not too keen on being that kind of guinea pig ;) |
| [23:32:00] | macroexp: | 64-bit kernel, mostly 32-bit userland seems to be the best mix |
| [23:32:00] | unicorn___: | u can set a 32bit chroot, but ... |
| [23:32:00] | macroexp: | at least, it's what worked the best on all the non-x64 64-bit unixes in the past (irix, solaris, sparc linux, hpux) |
| [23:33:00] | AranC23: | well, I have to run folks |
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| [23:33:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: good luck with xine... I'm sure you can sort it out! |
| [23:33:00] | unicorn___: | thanks for the help AranC23 |
| [23:34:00] | macroexp: | i mean, there's no reason for a 64-bit /bin/cat |
| [23:34:00] | AranC23: | unicorn: sure, for what it's worth ;) |
| [23:34:00] | Jasper: | I don't get this amd shit...why do they call it's 2800= if it's only a 1,6 gigh? |
| [23:35:00] | unicorn___: | Jasper, they are comparing it to equivalent 2.8 ghz processors |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | LOL ? |
| [23:36:00] | Jasper: | you mean they compare their 1,6 with pentium 2,8 ? |
| [23:36:00] | unicorn___: | clock speed is not everything |
| [23:36:00] | macroexp: | a 2800 amd is roughly equivalent to a p4 2.8ghz |
| [23:36:00] | AranC23: | it's a marketing thing that's somewhat based in reality |
| [23:36:00] | unicorn___: | yes |
| [23:36:00] | macroexp: | it's certainly closer to a 2.8ghz p4 than it is to a 1.6ghz p4 |
| [23:36:00] | AranC23: | intel is going that route as well, touting Mhz is over... |
| [23:37:00] | Jasper: | it's kinda lame though :P ...they are the concurrent of intel...and then they go calling their cpu's names of the opponent |
| [23:37:00] | AranC23: | yah, it's all so that they can still sell boxes at compusa |
| [23:37:00] | unicorn___: | well they'r good cpus |
| [23:37:00] | AranC23: | when you have a 2.5Ghz machine next to a 1.6 Ghz machine, the average joe is going to think the AMD at 1.6 is slower |
| [23:37:00] | AranC23: | and it might be considerably faster in real terms |
| [23:38:00] | AranC23: | the last intel chip I bought was a P90 |
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| [23:38:00] | ** rsquared wonders if comcast can figure out 5c encryption disabling ** | |
| [23:38:00] | unicorn___: | think mine was a p166 |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | my new intel box is quite fast |
| [23:38:00] | rsquared: | so's mine :) |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | and a heck of a lot cheaper than an a64 |
| [23:39:00] | unicorn___: | and cool n quiet works well |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | (granted, I got a deal from intel) |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | unicorn___: mine would be quiet if I got a different heatsink. btx is nice,though. |
| [23:39:00] | macroexp: | i've got a 133mhz cyrix "PR166" in my basement. i think they were the originators of the "clock-speed equivalence" marketing dealie |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | s/heatsink/video card/ |
| [23:39:00] | AranC23: | price/performance is something AMD has had IMHO for a long time |
| [23:39:00] | AranC23: | over intel |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | AranC23: generally speaking, yes... but it wasn't until the opterons that "quality" came into play. |
| [23:40:00] | unicorn___: | xris, 32bit? |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | unicorn___: no |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | I hate watching computer adverts while having no money.. |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | 820 proc. 2.8G dual core 64 bit |
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| [23:40:00] | AranC23: | hmmm... I had a K2–400 that was rock solid |
| [23:40:00] | AranC23: | under linux |
| [23:40:00] | AranC23: | k6–2 400 that is |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | I got good deal from intel.. and after selling off the stuff that came with it, I think I got proc and motherboard for about $100 |
| [23:41:00] | brando1: | Random question, about a year ago myth had some problems with the screensaver not starting stopping correctly with gnome, anyone know for sure if this has been fixed? |
| [23:41:00] | unicorn___: | anyone have a non HDTV connected with mythtv? |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | unicorn___: I don't have hdtv |
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| [23:41:00] | AranC23: | really leaving this time... |
| [23:41:00] | unicorn___: | bye |
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| [23:42:00] | unicorn___: | I have a tochiba 36" CRT, with component progressive |
| [23:42:00] | unicorn___: | toshiba 36zp48 |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | hmm...a dell isn't that great either I guess.. |
| [23:42:00] | unicorn___: | what do u guys use for tv-out. I have a 6150 mobo, with component out |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | unicorn___: my pundit has nice onboard tv out. |
| [23:43:00] | unicorn___: | s-video? |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | y |
| [23:43:00] | Jasper: | component is better then s-video right? |
| [23:43:00] | Mersault: | macroexp: the settings in mythweb's .htaccess should be set for the mythtv mysql user, not the root mysql user, correct? |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | yes |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | Mersault: yes |
| [23:43:00] | Mersault: | alright, so I'm not on crack... |
| [23:44:00] | unicorn___: | Im using 8178 nvidia driver. and there is no option for component, only composite and s-video |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | what dfoes a component connector look like? |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | Jasper: three rca-style plugs in red, blue and green |
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| [23:44:00] | unicorn___: | it has 3 RCA connectors |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | ah k |
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| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | unicorn___, have you tried without setting it? it *should* autodetect it |
| [23:45:00] | Funky|Sleep: | hey guys....I have been using nuvexport to get my recordings from 1 gig down to 80 meg. After I do this, I delete the recording. I was wondering if there is a way instead to replace the recording with the compressed one? |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | 80 megs? |
| [23:45:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [23:46:00] | unicorn___: | no not yet from mythtv. I tried once in normal boot and it does autodetect |
| [23:46:00] | unicorn___: | just wondering why the nvidia driver does not explicitly give an option fro component. and also if 576p is enough for PAL progressive |
| [23:46:00] | Funky|Sleep: | I tried replaceing the .mpg file with the .avi file and it playes in Mythfrontend but not the same as if it was using mplayer. When it first starts it is a black screen and until things start moving around the scene doesn't get painted....same thing when skipping forward |
| [23:46:00] | Jasper: | that's sweet |
| [23:46:00] | Funky|Sleep: | kormoc, yeah....xvid |
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| [23:47:00] | galorin: | I'm not sure what's going on.. using tzap/dvbstream, my dvb-t channels come in clear, but in mythtv the channels are blocky, like there's really bad reception. I'm using a SVN that's about an hour old. |
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| [23:47:00] | Funky|Sleep: | kormoc, 82 megs up to 95 after commercial skipping |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | Funky|Sleep, wow, what options are you using? |
| [23:47:00] | xris: | Funky|Sleep: just put it into mythvideo |
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| [23:47:00] | Funky|Sleep: | kormoc, default pretty much |
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| [23:48:00] | FunkyELF: | xris, well...then it won't show up through mythweb |
| [23:48:00] | kormoc: | default xvid I thought was around 160ish |
| [23:48:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: um, default xvid export results in about 350M/hour (minus commercials) files. |
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| [23:48:00] | DC_daNMan: | Ok, checked the documentation, and the messages boards, can't see anything already there. Can someone help me setup mythTV. Im using a lifeview DVB-T tuner card (UK), and all my attmpts to get it to work so far, have failed. |
| [23:48:00] | FunkyELF: | i use nuvexport --transcode |
| [23:48:00] | unicorn___: | is anyone using vlc for dvd playback? |
| [23:48:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: default bitrate is the same for transcode or ffmpeg |
| [23:49:00] | FunkyELF: | then I resize it to 480x368 |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | ahh, resizing would cut it a bit, aye |
| [23:49:00] | FunkyELF: | and I don't do multipass |
| [23:49:00] | xris: | resize has no bearing on bitrate |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | hrm, oh right. |
| [23:49:00] | xris: | bitrate is bitrate... though if you're not setting bitrate, the resize would make it smaller, yes |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | it'll just cover more of the screen. |
| [23:49:00] | FunkyELF: | I think multipass actually makes the file bigger |
| [23:49:00] | FunkyELF: | which is the oposite of what it is supposed to do |
| [23:49:00] | DC_daNMan: | Anyone want to help..? |
| [23:49:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: no, it doesn't... it just guarantees that the bitrate you choose is accurate |
| [23:50:00] | kormoc: | DC_daNMan, ask specific questions |
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| [23:50:00] | DC_daNMan: | Err, I did.. |
| [23:50:00] | FunkyELF: | so when mythfrontend tries to play a file from recordings....what player does it use? |
| [23:50:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: internal |
| [23:50:00] | DC_daNMan: | Well, mythtv wont detect my card |
| [23:50:00] | xris: | DC_daNMan: does the card work outside of mythtv? |
| [23:50:00] | DC_daNMan: | Hmm.. No. |
| [23:51:00] | FunkyELF: | xris, weird how it actually played the xvid file when I replaced the mpeg file |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | that's step one |
| [23:51:00] | DC_daNMan: | Although it does work in windows (its not dead) |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: not really.. it's just libavcodec. plays pretty much whatever you throw at it. |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | DC_daNMan, that doesn't mean anything if there's no linux driver for it |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | DC_daNMan: might not have linux drivers. |
| [23:51:00] | DC_daNMan: | I compiled the kernel, with the drivers for the chipset it has |
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| [23:52:00] | kormoc: | DC_daNMan, http://linuxtv.org/ |
| [23:52:00] | DC_daNMan: | (phillips SAA7134 or something like that) |
| [23:52:00] | DC_daNMan: | Woo |
| [23:52:00] | Jasper: | omg...why did my hd crash....this is such a sad day |
| [23:52:00] | kormoc: | DC_daNMan, does the driver pick it up? |
| [23:53:00] | DC_daNMan: | Ahh nuts. |
| [23:53:00] | DC_daNMan: | <my card> Not supported. |
| [23:53:00] | DC_daNMan: | Oh well. That was short lived. |
| [23:54:00] | unicorn___: | when using default mythtv player for video I get no sound |
| [23:54:00] | DC_daNMan: | Coldplug picks it up.. |
| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | DC_daNMan, do you get the /dev/ entrys for it? |
| [23:54:00] | DC_daNMan: | And runs the appropriate modules.. |
| [23:54:00] | DC_daNMan: | I get /dev/v4l, but no /dev/dvb entry |
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| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | then yeah, the driver isn't working correctly |
| [23:55:00] | DC_daNMan: | Hmm.. Sucks to be me then.. |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | unicorn___: what kind of tuner? |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | did you set up the audio input so that it's recordable? |
| [23:55:00] | DC_daNMan: | Uhh.. Now I need to use windows.. Quasi-legally.. |
| [23:55:00] | unicorn___: | xris, just video |
| [23:55:00] | FunkyELF: | xris, kormoc do you know of a way to get mythfrontend to use mplayer rather than it's internal player to play recordings? |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | unicorn___: then your audio isn't set up properly |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: not for tv |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | that's what mythvideo is for |
| [23:56:00] | FunkyELF: | yeah, i know...I use mythvideo. |
| [23:57:00] | DC_daNMan: | Anyway, thanks for your help people. |
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| [23:57:00] | FunkyELF: | it would just be nice to be able to transcode the recordings into a size that isn't retarded and keep them with the recordings |
| [23:57:00] | unicorn___: | xris, music files play ok |
| [23:57:00] | unicorn___: | so alsa is setup ok |
| [23:57:00] | FunkyELF: | I think I used the built in transcoder and even though it said it was mpeg-4 and mp3 for audio, I couldn't play the files from Windows |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | unicorn___: you're not recording music files |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | I'm talking about input, not output |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, that's cause of the nuv container they are in likely |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: it is.. but windows can't understand the nupplevideo container without dsmyth filters installed |
| [23:58:00] | unicorn___: | xris, I am just playing back a file from hard disk. it's not a recording. I can play it in xine with audio |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | unicorn___, is mplayer setup to use alsa? |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | unicorn___: oh. no clue, then... permissions? |
| [23:59:00] | FunkyELF: | one the video is transcoded using myth's internal transcoder.... is there a way to losslessly change the file's "container" so that it would be playable in windows? |
| [23:59:00] | FunkyELF: | *once |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: no |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | unicorn___, you could run mplayer from a console (gmplayer file.mpg) and put the output from it to a pastebin and show that to us |
| [23:59:00] | unicorn___: | kormoc, yes. why mplayer? |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | just install dsmyth in windows |
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