| Sunday, February 26th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Jasper: | it's hard finding a good remote |
| [00:00:00] | daktak: | im a big fan of the usb remote that comes with the dvico cards ;-) |
| [00:01:00] | djohnson: | I just got a serial remote, I'm hooping it works... I haven't even plugged it in yet though |
| [00:01:00] | djohnson: | :%s/hooping/hoping/ |
| [00:01:00] | Jasper: | ah k |
| [00:01:00] | Jasper: | I just soldered one |
| [00:01:00] | Jasper: | just as easy |
| [00:02:00] | djohnson: | just soldered a remotte? |
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| [00:03:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I've just set up a new frontend, but when I go to view my recordings, I get the message that /mnt/store/file.mpg doesn't exist.. but that shouldn't exist on the frontend, but they do exist on the backend.. what am I doing wrong? |
| [00:03:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Jusk1 – hello again |
| [00:03:00] | laga: | JoeyJoeJo: you using 0.19? |
| [00:03:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yup |
| [00:03:00] | laga: | JoeyJoeJo: that's weird. |
| [00:04:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | is there an option somewhere that I have to check? |
| [00:04:00] | feld: | <Barney> Hey Joey Joe Jo! |
| [00:04:00] | laga: | JoeyJoeJo: check the backend logs as well as the frontend logs. maybe you need to start the frontend with --verbose all,-playback |
| [00:04:00] | feld: | <Moe> That's the worst name I've ever heard.... |
| [00:04:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | awww |
| [00:04:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | laga: ok, I'll take a look |
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| [00:05:00] | djohnson: | laga OK, rebooting, thanks for your help |
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| [00:08:00] | FallingCow: | About 10% of my drive is being taken up by TV shows I tried to delete (via mythfrontend), but are still there. They are also still in recorded table with deletepending=1 |
| [00:08:00] | FallingCow: | How can I get rid of them? |
| [00:09:00] | FallingCow: | Also, I tried setting deletepending=0, but the recording didn't seem to show back up in mythfrontend to be deleted |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper: | man |
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| [00:13:00] | Jasper: | how can people program a remote decently...there are far too little buttons for all the functions |
| [00:14:00] | dev-: | i did it fine with the hauppage remote |
| [00:14:00] | dev-: | 2 weeks of girlfriend input heh |
| [00:14:00] | FallingCow: | I've got too many buttons on my hauppauge remote |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper: | you do? |
| [00:15:00] | dev-: | i dont use any of the color buttons, it would not be gf friendly |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | hehe dev- |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | I see... |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | but I mean..who's gonna program stuff like add commercial cutpoint |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | on his remote,.. |
| [00:15:00] | dev-: | the only problem i have, and its new with .19, is i need to find a way to bind r to something, to tell it to record current livetv program. was hoping it would be in the menu dropdown, but its not ;/ |
| [00:15:00] | feld: | sounds like a poor choice for a gf.... |
| [00:16:00] | dev-: | actually, its a pretty good choice. i deal with clusters and networks all day long, i dont want to come home and talk tech with my significant other |
| [00:16:00] | Jasper: | ai.. |
| [00:16:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | laga: I've tried your suggestions, but nothing has worked yet |
| [00:16:00] | FallingCow: | dev-: I have r mapped to my record button |
| [00:17:00] | daktak_: | http://192.168.0.104/downloads/lircrc-mythtv-dvico.txt |
| [00:17:00] | FallingCow: | I've still got about 8–9 buttons I haven't mapped yet |
| [00:17:00] | dev-: | FallingCow: hah, that sounds like a good choice |
| [00:17:00] | dev-: | totally forgot i dont have record bound to anything |
| [00:17:00] | laga: | JoeyJoeJo: make sure that you've set the right host name for you backend both at the frontend and in mythtv-setup on your master backend. |
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| [00:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | hmm.. that may be it.. how do I change a computer's hostname? |
| [00:18:00] | feld: | JoeyJoeJo: /etc/hosts |
| [00:18:00] | laga: | no! don't change the hostname |
| [00:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | both my frontend and backend are named localhost |
| [00:19:00] | feld: | LOL |
| [00:19:00] | laga: | *cough* |
| [00:19:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I thought maybe changing my frontend would fix it |
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| [00:19:00] | laga: | and i think i should go to bed now because i wanna retain some of my mental sanity |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper: | we |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper: | everything works |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper: | except firewire |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:21:00] | Jusk1: | whoah.. more blurry now... this auto thing on my monitor isn;t working right |
| [00:21:00] | Jasper: | woooo |
| [00:21:00] | Jasper: | that took long to load the program guide |
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| [00:21:00] | Jasper: | wow juski you got any experience with program guide being VERYY slow? |
| [00:21:00] | feld: | i do |
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| [00:22:00] | Jusk1: | jasper: nope |
| [00:22:00] | feld: | mine was because it couldnt find station logos it was looking for |
| [00:22:00] | feld: | so do another mythfilldatabse |
| [00:22:00] | Jasper: | yea that looks like the problem here |
| [00:22:00] | Jasper: | ! |
| [00:22:00] | feld: | and it might fxi it |
| [00:22:00] | feld: | *fix |
| [00:22:00] | Jasper: | where does it store the logos? |
| [00:22:00] | feld: | in the home folder of the user that runs mythfrontend |
| [00:22:00] | Jusk1: | stores the logos where you put em, generally |
| [00:22:00] | feld: | .mythtv/logos/ |
| [00:23:00] | briand: | /home/mythtv/.mythtv/channels |
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| [00:23:00] | Jasper: | that's weird |
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| [00:23:00] | Jasper: | since I copied everything from the /root dir in .mythtv to /home/mythtv/.mythtv |
| [00:23:00] | djohnson: | Jasper: Thanks for your help, I got sound! |
| [00:23:00] | Jasper: | mythfilldatabase takes 2,5 hours |
| [00:23:00] | Jusk1: | /usr/share/mythtv/icons/ ..... |
| [00:24:00] | Jasper: | what happend djohnson ? |
| [00:24:00] | mike_d_: | hey, does anyone know why the jump amount is 10 minutes under 0.19? the setting "JumpAmount" doesn't appear to be used anymore. |
| [00:24:00] | djohnson: | It was loading some old drivers that shipped with Suse 10.0... |
| [00:24:00] | djohnson: | laga: Thanks for your help too! |
| [00:24:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [00:24:00] | djohnson: | Yah, so I had to do an rmmod 'all the old stuff' rename the .ko's from modules, do a new install, and then it magically worked! |
| [00:24:00] | djohnson: | So now.... Installing myth ;) |
| [00:24:00] | Jasper: | hmm probably a user permission failure then Jusk1 |
| [00:25:00] | djohnson: | But first, the wife wants to make a trip to Ikea, and she always gets what she wants |
| [00:25:00] | laga: | djohnson: :) |
| [00:25:00] | briand: | aha! done. |
| [00:25:00] | Jusk1: | don't ask me I'm drunk (tm) |
| [00:26:00] | Jasper: | huh Jusk1 /usr/share/mythtv/icons? |
| [00:26:00] | Jasper: | ah k |
| [00:26:00] | Nemesis: | What ar ethe latest Nvidia drivers? |
| [00:26:00] | laga: | Jusk1: wanna share some of that JD? ;) 'JoeyJoeJo> both my frontend and backend are named localhost' |
| [00:26:00] | laga: | Nemesis: 8xxx, not necessarily recommended. 7676 is usually the way to go for use with mythtv |
| [00:26:00] | briand: | I now have actual scheduling information in Myth, gently slurped from http://talgov.com/communications/wcot.cfm and inserted in place of "Local Origination" in the Myth database. |
| [00:26:00] | Jasper: | in my experience 8xxx works fine too |
| [00:26:00] | Jasper: | ;P |
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| [00:27:00] | laga: | Jasper: opengl vsync will not. |
| [00:27:00] | briand: | ...and it only took 192 lines of perl code. |
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| [00:27:00] | feld: | 8xxx has some major stupid bugs :( |
| [00:27:00] | daktak_: | I had to stick with 7676 as 8178 caused me greif |
| [00:27:00] | ** Jusk1 passes laga the bottle ** | |
| [00:27:00] | Nemesis: | laga, I'm runnin KnoppMyth... How do I download the 7676 drivers? |
| [00:27:00] | laga: | Nemesis: ask the knoppmyth guys |
| [00:27:00] | laga: | Jusk1: thanks |
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| [00:29:00] | Jasper: | lol I don't have a icons dir.. |
| [00:29:00] | Jasper: | funny |
| [00:29:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:29:00] | dtm: | briand: i dont know what's more amazing.. the fact that you did it, or the fact that you wanted to. |
| [00:29:00] | briand: | /home/mythtv/.mythtv/channels |
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| [00:29:00] | Jusk1: | knoppmyth / not_myth.. same difference |
| [00:29:00] | Jasper: | hmm briand |
| [00:29:00] | briand: | dtm: well, it's like this — the GF likes to see 'On Location' and 'For Pets Sake' ... and, well... |
| [00:29:00] | Jasper: | why doesn't mythtv use them then? |
| [00:29:00] | dtm: | briand: oh my |
| [00:30:00] | dtm: | briand: well done, sir |
| [00:30:00] | dtm: | briand: i hope you contact the station and tell them about it |
| [00:30:00] | Jusk1: | briand: you need the (yet to be coded) mythtv TASTE filter for recordings |
| [00:30:00] | dtm: | briand: i had mythtv on the drawing board when i worked at a community access tv station |
| [00:30:00] | briand: | Jusk1: heh.. as I said, it's not for me.. it's for the GF to better appreciate the time I spent/spend on the MythTV box... |
| [00:31:00] | Jasper: | briand is the location of the logos stored in the db or something? |
| [00:31:00] | briand: | dtm: I do plan on calling them... perhaps they'll become a little more 'consistent' in how they code the table... ;) |
| [00:31:00] | dtm: | briand: ha. |
| [00:31:00] | briand: | Jasper: hmm... i think so, actually. |
| [00:32:00] | dtm: | briand: they ought to export you their internal data so you can do it however you want |
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| [00:32:00] | dtm: | briand: do they change their format over time? |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper: | I'll just chmod 777 -R my root dir |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [00:32:00] | briand: | dtm: yeah, sometimes they use the " mark in the table, sometimes they don't.. and you're just supposed to -guess- how long some of those shows are. |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper: | that worked |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:33:00] | dtm: | briand: oic |
| [00:33:00] | Jusk1: | briand.. yeh my box never fails to record 'emmerdale' when commanded to by SWMBO |
| [00:33:00] | briand: | otherwise, if the slot is 'empty', they run this computer message board scroll |
| [00:33:00] | briand: | Jusk1: so then, you understand. :) |
| [00:33:00] | Dibblah: | Argh! "Bug-ridden". |
| [00:33:00] | Dibblah: | He bloody well even got a response from Isaac across in -users. |
| [00:33:00] | briand: | dtm: but I would like to know, for instance, how often new 'episodes' of these shows occur... and on what day they 'debut'... |
| [00:35:00] | briand: | Jasper: SELECT icon FROM channel WHERE chanid=<chanid>; |
| [00:35:00] | briand: | Jasper: ..that'll give you the full path to any given channel icon. |
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| [00:37:00] | Nemesis: | How do I download the lastest nvidia drivers? |
| [00:37:00] | briand: | did you ask over in #downloadingthelatestnvidiadrivers ? |
| [00:37:00] | drdaz: | lol |
| [00:37:00] | drdaz: | maybe even www.nvidia.com? |
| [00:38:00] | Jusk1: | Dibblah: just cos Isaac saw fit to respond it doesn't necessarily mean it was erm... well you know... I say fair play to Isaac – I have no idea how the _hell_ he puts up with some of the users to be honest |
| [00:39:00] | briand: | Jusk1: i agree. I'd be tempted to offer them a "full refund" for the full purchase price and send 'em packin' |
| [00:40:00] | Jasper: | briand you don't use zap2it? |
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| [00:41:00] | briand: | Jasper: yes, I do... but zap2it just fills in 4 hour blocks labelled "Local Origination" |
| [00:42:00] | briand: | so, once a week (on monday) i run this perl program... it deletes those, and inserts the sked |
| [00:42:00] | briand: | then calls `mythbackend --reschedule` |
| [00:42:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [00:43:00] | Jasper: | so you wrote your own grabber? |
| [00:43:00] | briand: | i guess, in a manner of speaking, yes. |
| [00:43:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [00:43:00] | briand: | it's rather specific to this channel, obviously. |
| [00:43:00] | Jasper: | will adjusting the cable length change the frequency? |
| [00:43:00] | Jasper: | no right? |
| [00:43:00] | Jusk1: | what?! |
| [00:43:00] | Jasper: | I know it's a werid question |
| [00:43:00] | briand: | cable length of what? |
| [00:44:00] | Jasper: | television cable |
| [00:44:00] | Jusk1: | depends what you're talking about |
| [00:44:00] | briand: | as in coaxial cable? |
| [00:44:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [00:44:00] | briand: | no, it won't change the frequency |
| [00:44:00] | Jusk1: | doppler shift of an extra 1 foot of cable is likely to be quite negligible, I reckon ;-) |
| [00:44:00] | Jasper: | either it's mistuned..or my cable splitter has to be tweaked |
| [00:44:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:44:00] | briand: | but, if you "adjust" it by pulling it taut and stretching it.. it'll change the bandpass characteristics and transmission loss.... |
| [00:44:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:45:00] | Jasper: | the problem is..it's noisy |
| [00:45:00] | Jasper: | and I moved my stuff upstairs |
| [00:45:00] | Jasper: | so it's prolly the cable splitter |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | make sure your f-connectors are well crimped, and tightened up properly |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | failing that, the splitter could be crap. |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | failing that, a (DECENT) amplifier might be needed if you're splitting too many times... |
| [00:46:00] | Jusk1: | split more than once & likely you need an amp |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | Jusk1: depends on the original signal quality, i guess. |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | i installed a Blonder Tongue 8-port broadband amplifier. |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | no signal quality issues here. ;) |
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| [00:47:00] | Jusk1: | blonder tongue.. sounds like a movie on a certain channel soon |
| [00:47:00] | ** Jusk1 needs an IRC breathalyser.... ** | |
| [00:47:00] | briand: | Jusk1: heheh.. doesn't it, though? anyway.. that's the company name... they make decent enough gear. |
| [00:48:00] | scopeuk: | any one know where i can fidn the myth weather locale codes? |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | scopeuk: yes. at weather.com |
| [00:48:00] | scopeuk: | ok thanksyou |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | s'alright |
| [00:48:00] | ** Kelerion grumbles ** | |
| [00:49:00] | Jasper: | I got a amplifier briand |
| [00:49:00] | Kelerion: | gaim's stopped docking to panel.. as has update-notifier |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | a good one, or one from Tandy Electronics (or Radio Shack) ? |
| [00:49:00] | scopeuk: | should i be able to find uk ones on there? |
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| [00:49:00] | briand: | scopeuk: if their web page shows you the weather for your area, your 'locale code' will be in the URL of the rendered page |
| [00:50:00] | scopeuk: | yeh im atempting to find my local area |
| [00:50:00] | scopeuk: | sorry to bug ill go do it myself |
| [00:50:00] | briand: | no bother to me. :) |
| [00:51:00] | Jusk1: | manchester, UK took some scrolling to find |
| [00:51:00] | scopeuk: | yeh i got there in the end |
| [00:51:00] | scopeuk: | although unfurtunately its along way away from me |
| [00:52:00] | briand: | scopeuk: you want the shorthand forecast? You have a 50% chance of rain today. Either it will rain, or it won't. |
| [00:52:00] | scopeuk: | lol yeh |
| [00:52:00] | scopeuk: | knoppmyth poed up and asked for it |
| [00:54:00] | scopeuk: | im sure myth weatehr is of some use in the us |
| [00:54:00] | Jasper: | it's kinda ok briand |
| [00:54:00] | Jusk1: | it's of some use in the UK too :-) |
| [00:54:00] | Jasper: | it changes 1 input to 8 outputs |
| [00:55:00] | Jasper: | it might be a ill connector |
| [00:55:00] | Jasper: | causing the noise |
| [00:55:00] | Jasper: | since the signal looks fine |
| [00:56:00] | scopeuk: | Jusk1 if one hapens to live next to a major airport or in the capital city |
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| [00:56:00] | Jasper: | yup |
| [00:57:00] | Jasper: | looks like a broken connector |
| [00:57:00] | briand: | cheaper to fix than replacing/buying an amplifier |
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| [00:58:00] | Jasper: | hehe |
| [00:58:00] | Jasper: | I think the core wasn't connected |
| [00:59:00] | briand: | that'll definitely cut down on the signal... |
| [00:59:00] | Jasper: | not sure though |
| [00:59:00] | Jasper: | test it first :P |
| [01:01:00] | Jusk1: | scopeuk: shit happens if you're nowehere near civilisation ;-) |
| [01:01:00] | Jusk1: | not that I'd for one minute call manchester civilised like |
| [01:02:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [01:02:00] | scopeuk: | im nto far outside notingham |
| [01:02:00] | scopeuk: | so id have used that but they dotn have it |
| [01:02:00] | scopeuk: | how do i find my soudn card |
| [01:02:00] | scopeuk: | software sirde this is |
| [01:03:00] | scopeuk: | be kinda nice to have soudn in my recordings |
| [01:03:00] | scopeuk: | how do ifidn th edevice is a better way to phrase it |
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| [01:05:00] | Jusk1: | /dev/audio? |
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| [01:05:00] | scopeuk: | possible |
| [01:05:00] | scopeuk: | its set to dsp atm |
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| [01:06:00] | Jasper: | sweet |
| [01:06:00] | Jasper: | briand back at old quality |
| [01:06:00] | Jasper: | the core was broken on both side |
| [01:06:00] | Jasper: | both connectors |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | you gotta stop swingin' around on that coax... |
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| [01:07:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [01:07:00] | scopeuk: | yay i got m ssh up |
| [01:07:00] | scopeuk: | nor i dont have to rip the pwoer lead out for a restart |
| [01:07:00] | Jasper: | man |
| [01:07:00] | Jasper: | that osd is really heavy on the cpu |
| [01:08:00] | ** scopeuk should probably figure out how to convert knopp myth to backend only ** | |
| [01:09:00] | Jasper: | hmm do differnt channels send different quality over the cable? |
| [01:09:00] | scopeuk: | i should imagine yes althoguh im nto sure |
| [01:10:00] | briand: | sometimes... more often, though, there's a degradation in the splitter and/or coax at certain frequencies |
| [01:10:00] | Jasper: | because I've got one channe looking really good |
| [01:10:00] | Jasper: | and some channels look a bit degradated |
| [01:11:00] | Jasper: | it's time I switched to digital |
| [01:11:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [01:12:00] | scopeuk: | yay none of my chanels work |
| [01:13:00] | Jasper: | huh |
| [01:13:00] | Jasper: | I can see the rotorblades of a helicopter while watching.. |
| [01:13:00] | Jasper: | I'm wondering if I would have been able to see that before.. |
| [01:13:00] | scopeuk: | wow the backedn jsut killed itself |
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| [01:18:00] | Jasper: | only one thing left needed on my box |
| [01:18:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:18:00] | Jasper: | a bigger harddrive then 40 gb |
| [01:18:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:18:00] | scaaven: | so, it looks like mythtv is keeping all live recordings when just watching tv. Is this normal and what will happen when the hard drive fills up? |
| [01:19:00] | Jasper: | scaaven they will auto expire |
| [01:19:00] | Jasper: | and yes it's normal |
| [01:19:00] | briand: | scaaven: yes, normal. they will autoexpire to make space. |
| [01:19:00] | briand: | or, what Jasper said. |
| [01:19:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [01:19:00] | scaaven: | thanks. and what about the recordings i manually select? will they take precedence over these "live" ones? |
| [01:19:00] | Kelerion: | yes |
| [01:19:00] | Jasper: | yes |
| [01:19:00] | Jasper: | what Kelerion said |
| [01:19:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:19:00] | kikisli: | Jasper: you get the firewire working? |
| [01:20:00] | Jasper: | no kikisli |
| [01:20:00] | Jasper: | I get some weird errors |
| [01:20:00] | Kelerion: | scaaven, don't worry.. it'll all just work fine |
| [01:20:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/dmesg |
| [01:20:00] | Jasper: | oh wait |
| [01:20:00] | Jasper: | it's http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/dmesg.log I think |
| [01:21:00] | scaaven: | hehe k |
| [01:21:00] | Jasper: | stuff like sda:<3>ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command |
| [01:21:00] | kikisli: | Jasper: oh, trying to use a firewire hard drive? |
| [01:22:00] | Jasper: | ipod kikisli |
| [01:22:00] | kikisli: | thought you were trying to sample from a cable box using firewire |
| [01:22:00] | Jasper: | I tried a mac ipod and a windows formatted ipod |
| [01:22:00] | Jasper: | both ipods failed |
| [01:22:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [01:23:00] | kikisli: | sorry, i don't have experience with that, then :) |
| [01:23:00] | Jasper: | I got an old computer...no sata |
| [01:23:00] | Jasper: | that's why I want firewire external harddisk |
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| [01:24:00] | Kelerion: | hey guys.. gaim has stopped being dockable.. as have other apps under gnome (update notifier for example) anyone any ideas? |
| [01:24:00] | Kelerion: | they just appear as mini-windows instead |
| [01:25:00] | awb4422: | any list moderators in here? I subscribed early this morning and haven't received anything about it yet. |
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| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | oh I found a bug in myth |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | forgot to say it earlier |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:26:00] | Jusk1: | Jasper: cat bug.txt > / dev/null |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:26:00] | drdaz: | lol! |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | Jusk1 ...when updating movie info from imdb |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | when there's a hyperlink in the text |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | it won't convert taht into normal text |
| [01:27:00] | Jasper: | so everything after it gets skipped |
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| [01:27:00] | Jasper: | so you get like a oneline description..because imdb info has a hyperlink after that 1 line...and it continues on for like another 5 lines after that |
| [01:28:00] | Jusk1: | Jasper: hardly a bug i think.. more a limitation of the shitty imdb.org |
| [01:28:00] | Jasper: | why's that Jusk1 ? |
| [01:28:00] | Jasper: | mythtv can easily convert that hyperlink into plain text? |
| [01:30:00] | dev-: | is that a bug in myth or a plugin, tho |
| [01:30:00] | sphing: | anyone else have the backend getting stuck on watching live tv |
| [01:30:00] | Jusk1: | Jasper: some IMDB stuff gets convoluted |
| [01:30:00] | Jusk1: | sphing: sorted in the -fixes branch I think |
| [01:30:00] | dev-: | sphing: yes, there are numerous patches in the fixes svn branch for that problem |
| [01:30:00] | sphing: | ah |
| [01:31:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [01:31:00] | Jasper: | it appears my network connection is gone on my box |
| [01:31:00] | Jasper: | and now mythtv is hanging on retreiving data |
| [01:31:00] | Jasper: | ::P |
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| [01:33:00] | Jusk1: | damn... outta JD in the glass.. wah! |
| [01:37:00] | ** Jusk1 is re-filled... ** | |
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| [01:38:00] | scopeuk: | mythweather setup within myth frotnend is fine |
| [01:39:00] | scopeuk: | heh |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | omg those wireless network shit cards |
| [01:42:00] | ** scopeuk is considerig nkeppign mythtv roudn for weather and tv schedual ** | |
| [01:42:00] | scopeuk: | better than those foudn on any website ive ever used |
| [01:43:00] | Jusk1: | wireless, schmireless, I say |
| [01:45:00] | scopeuk: | the only use for wireless involves a high gain antena and a flock of pidgeons |
| [01:45:00] | scopeuk: | ill elave the rest to your imagination |
| [01:46:00] | kikisli: | i don't think any devs use firewire out of a cablebox |
| [01:47:00] | Jusk1: | scopeuk: music for your micro-wave, as they said in the 1990s |
| [01:47:00] | Jasper: | I'll have to reconsider that wireless tomorrow |
| [01:48:00] | scopeuk: | heh what you think wifi jamer |
| [01:48:00] | scopeuk: | colector in a 2kw microwave and an omnidirectional antena on thre roof |
| [01:48:00] | Jusk1: | wireless just needs someone to cough too loud to screw it up, doesn; tit? |
| [01:48:00] | scopeuk: | yup |
| [01:49:00] | scopeuk: | its crap |
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| [01:49:00] | scopeuk: | 11/54 meg my ass |
| [01:49:00] | scopeuk: | that at mac level and your lucky to get it there |
| [01:49:00] | Jusk1: | lol |
| [01:49:00] | Jusk1: | heard about wireless USB last week |
| [01:49:00] | Jusk1: | shit – two really shit things going together... can't wait :-. |
| [01:50:00] | Jusk1: | :-/ |
| [01:50:00] | scopeuk: | i quite like usb |
| [01:50:00] | scopeuk: | ma by becouse it made my life easier |
| [01:50:00] | scopeuk: | explaing how to maek a usb device work is easier than forqa serial device |
| [01:50:00] | Jusk1: | wait til you compare it to firewire... |
| [01:50:00] | dtm: | scopeuk: maybe because that's all it does for anyone :) |
| [01:50:00] | Jusk1: | got this USB2/firewire disky thingy.. USB2 I get like 500k/sec xfers... firewire is like a real HDD should be |
| [01:50:00] | scopeuk: | fire wire >> usb |
| [01:50:00] | dtm: | yeah i'll compare it to firewire and say "wow, TWO things to make life easier!" |
| [01:50:00] | Jasper: | I got wireless usb on my laptop |
| [01:51:00] | Jasper: | works fine |
| [01:51:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:51:00] | scopeuk: | there is a wireless usb hub out soon |
| [01:51:00] | scopeuk: | but its not wusb compliant |
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| [01:51:00] | dtm: | scopeuk: i wonder what the difference is between that and bluetooth. |
| [01:51:00] | dtm: | throughput, maybe |
| [01:51:00] | scopeuk: | gonna say a life time and a fortnight |
| [01:51:00] | scopeuk: | and thqats jsut transfering an mp3 |
| [01:54:00] | scopeuk: | my sound is still out humm wonder if its being detected at all |
| [01:54:00] | scopeuk: | how well is linux likely to cope if i move this hdd to another machine? |
| [01:54:00] | Kelerion: | ok – thats two films in two days that have been a waste of time |
| [01:55:00] | Jusk1: | Kelerion: the titles are a giveaway |
| [01:55:00] | Jusk1: | I mean.. "I heart huckabees" FFS |
| [01:55:00] | Jusk1: | ;-) |
| [01:55:00] | drdaz: | scopeuk: as long as all the hardware on the new motherboard is supported it wont be a problem |
| [01:56:00] | scopeuk: | humm |
| [01:56:00] | scopeuk: | we wil lsoon find out if it is |
| [01:56:00] | drdaz: | I moved my main myth install from an nForce2 mobo to an ULi based Athlon64 motherboard without issue recently |
| [01:57:00] | Jusk1: | sorry btw I've watched some fskcing lemons in my time |
| [01:57:00] | Kelerion: | Jusk1, "Strip Search" in case you come across it.. has no relevance to it's title. .lol |
| [01:57:00] | drdaz: | coming from a windows world, I was quite impressed |
| [01:57:00] | Jusk1: | lol |
| [01:57:00] | Jusk1: | I came here from MCE & showshifter.. just the fact mythbackend stayed up for more than an hour impressed me enough |
| [01:58:00] | drdaz: | :p |
| [01:58:00] | Kelerion: | some Glenn Close film about two people getting questioned about terrorism in two different countries.. and the dialog is the same in both interogations.. *identical* dialog |
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| [01:58:00] | drdaz: | actually does anybody know hoe to kill the damn pam console? I want to stop it from popping up permanently |
| [01:59:00] | Kelerion: | some chinese guy questioning some american lass.. and glenn close questioning some asian guy.. I give in.. lol |
| [01:59:00] | Jusk1: | heh |
| [01:59:00] | Jusk1: | just give in... grab some '24' series 5 |
| [01:59:00] | ** Kelerion watches a re-run of Knight Rider instead ** | |
| [02:00:00] | drdaz: | Knight Rider --> teh win |
| [02:00:00] | Kelerion: | I made a *fatal* mistake today |
| [02:00:00] | drdaz: | "Turbo Boost now Kitt!" |
| [02:00:00] | Kelerion: | I showed my wife how to record her own programs/films |
| [02:01:00] | drdaz: | etc |
| [02:01:00] | Jusk1: | oh gawd |
| [02:01:00] | Jusk1: | now a HDD full of corrie |
| [02:01:00] | Jusk1: | LOL |
| [02:01:00] | Kelerion: | first thing she recorded was "Voyage of the Unicorn".. things look terribly bleak |
| [02:01:00] | scopeuk: | poor you |
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| [02:02:00] | scopeuk: | damn it where did put my screwdrivers |
| [02:02:00] | Kelerion: | eastenders is already recorded.. I was ordered to setup that one for her when I first installed myth lol |
| [02:02:00] | Jusk1: | LOL |
| [02:04:00] | drdaz: | the cat just took a dump on the floor :-| |
| [02:04:00] | Kelerion: | drdaz, ever heard the term "too much information"? |
| [02:04:00] | drdaz: | heard of it, yes |
| [02:05:00] | Kelerion: | I have 4 dogs.. I don't need to know about your pets too.. lol |
| [02:05:00] | drdaz: | never quite understood the semantics of it tho :p |
| [02:05:00] | drdaz: | but 4 dogs? |
| [02:05:00] | drdaz: | oO |
| [02:05:00] | Jusk1: | :-O |
| [02:05:00] | Kelerion: | mine mess way more than they should be physically able to |
| [02:06:00] | Kelerion: | but.. thankfully.. thats a wife-job :) |
| [02:06:00] | drdaz: | this cat is kinda amazing... it kicks the litter around and makes a real effort to like, do things properly.. |
| [02:06:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [02:06:00] | drdaz: | then craps over the side of the tray |
| [02:06:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [02:07:00] | drdaz: | bless it |
| [02:08:00] | Nemesis: | What steps do I need to take to install/remove and intel_agp moduel? |
| [02:08:00] | drdaz: | really.. I'd like to surgically remove pamconsole... |
| [02:08:00] | drdaz: | any ideas how to do so? |
| [02:09:00] | Jusk1: | apt-remove pamconsole (I'm sick of yer silicone-ness)... or is that more pammi-console? |
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| [02:09:00] | drdaz: | lolz |
| [02:09:00] | drdaz: | gonna give it a try |
| [02:10:00] | drdaz: | it aint called pamconsole :( |
| [02:10:00] | Jusk1: | saw that lass who won big brother in the paper the other day. couldn't help thinking "fucking hell, the poor cow looks the spitting double of Paris Hilton" |
| [02:10:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [02:10:00] | drdaz: | it seems no matter how many times I tell it to not react when a new medium shows up it just keeps doing it |
| [02:11:00] | Jusk1: | not so much forehead but FIVE head ;-) |
| [02:12:00] | briand: | hmm. not bad... i just added entries into mythlog for my 'additional listings' perl program... it downloaded the page, parsed out the information from the table and inserted 84 records (now thru sunday nite) in 2 seconds. |
| [02:12:00] | Jusk1: | the best thing to do with mediums (like our learned friend Derek Accorah) is to treat them as charlatans, IMHO |
| [02:12:00] | Kelerion: | learned? |
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| [02:13:00] | Perdignus: | Are there tweaks for a frontend on a very slow laptop that can help with choppy playback? |
| [02:13:00] | Jusk1: | Kelerion: learn-ed |
| [02:13:00] | Kelerion: | I know what you meant.. I was wondering about the accuracy.. lol |
| [02:13:00] | scopeuk: | ok tv card and scusi swaped andso are the hdds now to try and boot |
| [02:13:00] | briand: | Perdignus: yes, back up the entire drive, and install it on a faster laptop. |
| [02:13:00] | xris: | Perdignus: nice -0 |
| [02:13:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [02:13:00] | briand: | evenin, xris |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | evening |
| [02:16:00] | Jusk1: | oh hell.. one finger left... |
| [02:16:00] | Kelerion: | of JD? |
| [02:17:00] | Nemesis: | What steps do I need to take to install/remove an intel_agp module? |
| [02:17:00] | Jusk1: | that'll make 70cl drank this weekend |
| [02:17:00] | briand: | Jusk1: ...sounds like you're not really trying. |
| [02:17:00] | Jusk1: | Nemesis: depends on what ditro you run |
| [02:18:00] | Jusk1: | * distro, even |
| [02:18:00] | Kelerion: | am trying to be good.. am making a concious effort to cut down on the amount I drink.. I'm putting on way too much weight and it's affecting my back.. so am trying to be good |
| [02:18:00] | Jusk1: | uhhh typing getting difficult now |
| [02:18:00] | Nemesis: | Jusk1, I'm running KnoppMyth... |
| [02:18:00] | drdaz: | cut back on the lard |
| [02:18:00] | drdaz: | it does more than the booze |
| [02:18:00] | Nemesis: | Jusk1, Simple variation of Knoppix |
| [02:18:00] | Jusk1: | knott_myth, no sympathy, sorry |
| [02:19:00] | Nemesis: | Hmmm |
| [02:19:00] | drdaz: | but better than any cutting back... excercise is a very good thing |
| [02:19:00] | Nemesis: | Can you at least point me in the right direction? |
| [02:19:00] | Kelerion: | I don't each that much actually.. and everything is grilled (ala George Forman).. have been for a few years |
| [02:19:00] | drdaz: | ok |
| [02:19:00] | Jusk1: | mysettopbox.tv or whatever |
| [02:19:00] | drdaz: | then the excercise will do it I expect |
| [02:20:00] | drdaz: | you'll likely wind up eating more if your train |
| [02:20:00] | Kelerion: | excersise is tricky for me |
| [02:20:00] | drdaz: | ... and losing flab doing it |
| [02:20:00] | drdaz: | how so? |
| [02:20:00] | Kelerion: | disabled |
| [02:20:00] | drdaz: | ahh |
| [02:20:00] | briand: | true... but your metabolism also rises... even during resting periods and sleep.. thus burning more calories.. |
| [02:20:00] | drdaz: | yes |
| [02:21:00] | Jusk1: | exercise is erm... taxing... |
| [02:21:00] | drdaz: | Kelerion: do you mind me asking? disabled how? |
| [02:21:00] | Kelerion: | spinobifida |
| [02:21:00] | drdaz: | exercise gets easier |
| [02:21:00] | Jusk1: | and futile, when you think that a KitKat takes a half hour run to take off |
| [02:21:00] | drdaz: | ahh i see |
| [02:21:00] | drdaz: | Jusk1: it just isnt that simple |
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| [02:22:00] | Jusk1: | really? dammit I've been using that excuse for ages ;-) |
| [02:22:00] | drdaz: | :p |
| [02:22:00] | Kelerion: | not as bad as it can be.. I can still walk for example.. but it does limit things |
| [02:22:00] | drdaz: | I confess I'm not familiar with the disorder, so I can't advise.. |
| [02:23:00] | drdaz: | but an awful lot of physiological problems can be positively affected by appropriate exercise |
| [02:23:00] | Kelerion: | like I said.. my weight is adding pressure to my spine.. and I do drink a lot.. so it makes sense to sort that out first |
| [02:23:00] | Jusk1: | drdaz: I get a lot of that off by just dancing... sounds poofy but it works for me |
| [02:24:00] | drdaz: | hehe it works :) |
| [02:24:00] | drdaz: | I remember I went clubbing one night and lost 13lbs |
| [02:24:00] | Kelerion: | I swim 5 times a week.. and that really helps |
| [02:24:00] | drdaz: | sooo not healthy |
| [02:24:00] | Jusk1: | late nights & linux usage can lead to drinking... speaking from experience... that saying "free as in beer..." doesn't help much |
| [02:25:00] | drdaz: | lolz |
| [02:25:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. very true |
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| [02:26:00] | flyr: | In mythweb 0.19, schedule options, is there suppose to be several unlabeled checkboxes? |
| [02:26:00] | Jusk1: | I SO have to stagger to bed shortly.. it's been kinda fun but no substitute for a night out |
| [02:26:00] | drdaz: | there's less chance to ogle tits in here... granted |
| [02:27:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
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| [02:27:00] | Kelerion: | of course Juski and I are both married.. so no problems oggling when we want :P |
| [02:28:00] | drdaz: | heh my girlfriend is in bed... |
| [02:28:00] | drdaz: | its always fun to ogle other boobs tho |
| [02:28:00] | Kelerion: | this is true |
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| [02:29:00] | drdaz: | going to town in denmark is, in that respect at least, a treat |
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| [02:29:00] | Kelerion: | I can imagine :) |
| [02:29:00] | Kelerion: | ok folks.. heading to bed.. g'night all :) |
| [02:29:00] | drdaz: | nn |
| [02:29:00] | ** Kelerion waves and heads off ** | |
| [02:29:00] | Kelerion is now known as Kel-kippin | |
| [02:30:00] | Calroth: | hmm, new ebuild of mythtv |
| [02:30:00] | ** Calroth ponders it ** | |
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| [02:40:00] | drdaz: | noob question here: when running ./configure I'm told that xvmc support is disabled... how/where would I enable it? |
| [02:40:00] | drdaz: | I'm probably missing something profoundly obvious in the docs |
| [02:41:00] | drdaz: | ahh nm |
| [02:41:00] | drdaz: | found the answer I think :) |
| [02:43:00] | Calroth: | you could try "--enable-xvmc" on your configure string, if you have your nvidia set up all right |
| [02:43:00] | drdaz: | :) yes |
| [02:43:00] | drdaz: | I'm toying with the idea of moving from rpms to source u see |
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| [02:49:00] | Calroth: | i went the other way, from source to package |
| [02:49:00] | Calroth: | i think i've had enough of messing with the source :-) |
| [02:49:00] | drdaz: | heh |
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| [02:50:00] | drdaz: | well I'm looking at buying a Twinhan Cab CI card... support for it has only been implemented recently |
| [02:50:00] | ** Calroth nods ** | |
| [02:50:00] | drdaz: | and is only scheduled for inclusion in a 0.20 release :( |
| [02:50:00] | drdaz: | else I'd stick to packages |
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| [03:34:00] | phar0e: | hellooooo |
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| [03:40:00] | Calroth: | wow, ccache is taking up 800MB, that's a lotta code |
| [03:40:00] | ** Calroth clears it ** | |
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| [03:43:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, good evening |
| [03:44:00] | defaultro: | can you guys suggest a capture card that accepts RCA jack input? |
| [03:49:00] | ** Calroth doesn't have experience with that ** | |
| [03:49:00] | defaultro: | np |
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| [03:56:00] | MaxPower: | I seem to have set my mythfrontend resolution too high, i cat see anything when i run mythfrontend anymore. is there a text file where i can change it |
| [03:59:00] | MaxPower: | I would just like to know if there is a config file i can change somewhere |
| [04:03:00] | kikisli: | it's in the sql stuff i think |
| [04:04:00] | kikisli: | if you can get phpmyadmin going, that's a good way to tinker with the sql stuff |
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| [04:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody know offhand of gentoo guide for mythweb .19? |
| [04:09:00] | Calroth: | emerge it and follow the instructions onscreen? |
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| [04:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Calroth: umm no? |
| [04:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont get any instructions |
| [04:12:00] | Calroth: | then, well, did it work? |
| [04:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | only problems with php5 that are listed |
| [04:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats all |
| [04:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I dont use php5 |
| [04:13:00] | Calroth: | what error message do you get? |
| [04:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Calroth: no of course not it did not work |
| [04:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its saying that my database enviroment variables are not set correctly blah blah blah |
| [04:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I read the wiki for gentoo about that and it says to do it one way |
| [04:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont trust the wiki |
| [04:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I tried to do it the way the mythdocs said it did not work |
| [04:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so i really have no idea what to do |
| [04:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: said that people piss with the wiki and I would have to agree alot of the information there is not valid so thats why I asked |
| [04:15:00] | MaxPower: | thanks, i found the table with the settings and just used the mysql command line |
| [04:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean hell its not valid cause what it says about the .htaccess and how to set it up.... that does not even exist in my apache conf |
| [04:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so yeah I have looked around Calroth :) |
| [04:16:00] | Calroth: | just checking the docs to see what they say |
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| [04:17:00] | Calroth: | from memory, all I needed to do was to append the following to httpd.conf (then restart) |
| [04:17:00] | Calroth: | <Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb> |
| [04:17:00] | Calroth: | AllowOverride All |
| [04:17:00] | Calroth: | </Directory> |
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| [04:17:00] | Calroth: | but your mileage may vary :-) |
| [04:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Calroth: thats not what I am wanting to do btw |
| [04:17:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: hmm? |
| [04:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I want it to require authentication |
| [04:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | as such if you read the .htaccess it highly advises it |
| [04:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and if xris advises it I would think its a good idea |
| [04:18:00] | Calroth: | i see |
| [04:18:00] | ** Cardoe nods. ** | |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | I'll write something up. |
| [04:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thanks Cardoe |
| [04:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | I worked on the wiki a little bit |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | like that side menu I added that |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | and all sorts of improvements |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | but I was busy for a week |
| [04:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe Cardoe that information about the httpd.conf and where its located well does not exist |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | and I didn't touch it |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | got back to it and all my info was crufted up |
| [04:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I searched it for that line and it does not exist etiehr |
| [04:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it says <directory /> is there already |
| [04:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but its not on mine |
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| [04:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I am confused on how to enter it or where to put it |
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| [04:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and the http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#Opt . . . view_MythWeb |
| [04:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | says nothing about the .htaccess or anything else |
| [04:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kinda frustrating :/ |
| [04:21:00] | Calroth: | hmm, looks like that article is about setting up site-wide passwords |
| [04:21:00] | Calroth: | whereas the mythweb-supplied .htaccess is about setting up mythweb-only passwords |
| [04:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Calroth: exactly its so fucking vague and missleading its BAD information given the situation |
| [04:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it has nothing to do with what I want to do |
| [04:22:00] | ** Calroth can see why this is a bad thing :-) ** | |
| [04:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | still does not allow me to use mythweb either |
| [04:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Calroth: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Kq6XRL81.html thats the error I get |
| [04:23:00] | Cardoe: | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5305279580707421379 |
| [04:23:00] | Cardoe: | using <directory /> would be wrong |
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| [04:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: its just frustrating about the info being so misleading there :/ |
| [04:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know what to do |
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| [04:32:00] | Calroth: | right-o |
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| [04:32:00] | Calroth: | try this: |
| [04:32:00] | Calroth: | as an admin, run "htdigest2 -c /var/www/htdigest MythTV SlicerDice" and enter a password |
| [04:32:00] | Calroth: | then uncomment the four auth options up the top of .htaccess |
| [04:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah it still errors |
| [04:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mythweb gives me that same error |
| [04:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | about database setup error |
| [04:35:00] | Calroth: | does it work without passwords? |
| [04:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
| [04:35:00] | Calroth: | ok, maybe get it working without passwords first, then add them later :-) |
| [04:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah well I dont know how to get it working at all thats the problem I have mod_env enabled |
| [04:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know what to do at all |
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| [04:36:00] | Calroth: | have you set up an appropriate AllowOverride? |
| [04:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | perhaps if there was some documents? |
| [04:38:00] | Calroth: | well, as said, I put the above 3 lines into my /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and it worked |
| [04:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know where to put them in the httpd.conf |
| [04:39:00] | Calroth: | I put them down the bottom |
| [04:40:00] | Calroth: | I don't think it matters where, so whenever I can, I make all my changes down the bottom where I can remember to check for them :-) |
| [04:42:00] | Calroth: | I have no idea how the Gentoo web apps thing works, but maybe they can set it up so, all this httpd.conf stuff gets done automatically |
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| [04:44:00] | jnunez: | I don't set any password and I have ip tables limit port 80 to localhost, I create an ssh tunnel and then browse to it |
| [04:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | was mythvideo and mythweather functionality removed from mythweb? |
| [04:47:00] | Calroth: | from that question, I presume you got it working? :-) |
| [04:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [04:47:00] | Calroth: | i've never used mythvideo or mythweather with mythweb, so I can't answer that one for you sorry |
| [04:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah there is a big blank spot where that stuff usto be |
| [04:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh Calroth |
| [04:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it does not show up unless you use it |
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| [05:11:00] | hadees: | will mythfrontend still build for xbox? |
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| [05:27:00] | sphing: | yes |
| [05:39:00] | simcop2387: | whee |
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| [05:43:00] | lt_: | hey all.. been a mythtv user for a while... tweaked some settings recently and now both tuners are "not available" or "in use"... but they are available and not in use.. gimme a pointer where to look? |
| [05:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | question for you guys |
| [05:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got a metric ton of .nuv's but the update to .19 makes them named .mpg due to my pvr350 anyway when you update was it suposto update those names? |
| [05:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am just wondering cause my system crashed bad last night and basename got nuked so it blew it up last night |
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| [05:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anyway please let me know if it changes |
| [05:46:00] | lt_: | I upraded and it left them nuv |
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| [05:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok thanks lt_ |
| [05:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I had a VERY horrible experience last night haha |
| [05:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my motherbord died while I was updating the database via ssh |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well... during that KDE exploded killed the terminal session and obliterated the basname field under recorded table lol |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was bad news bears |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so all my recorded programs were GONE! well in its mind anyway they are still in the store directory :) |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I can manually input all the programs back and hopefully that will work |
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| [05:59:00] | lt_: | any idea how to manually check the db to see what tuners it thinks are in use? |
| [06:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I use mythweb for that under status :) |
| [06:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | makes it easy |
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| [06:07:00] | hadees: | i am looking at the mythweb conf.php but i don't see where to put my database location |
| [06:08:00] | lt_: | slicerdicer.. no, it thinks they're both in use,but they're not |
| [06:08:00] | lt_: | I need to find out how to clear it |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh |
| [06:11:00] | phar0e: | anyone here using the sa3250hd channel changer? |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, what capture card do you recommended that has a rca jack input? |
| [06:23:00] | hadees: | so is this the line for the database in the mythweb config.php? define('server_domain', $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] ? $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] : $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']); |
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| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: awake? |
| [06:52:00] | dtm: | what? |
| [06:57:00] | lt_: | what table holds scheduled recordins? |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: I am getting them added so far |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have added 5 programs backed from that obliterated database |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am having to manually insert everything haha |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the old table is so blown apart I cant just query it in |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [06:59:00] | dtm: | the backup is? |
| [06:59:00] | dtm: | how is that |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I backed up the blown up database |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it has all the data that I need but lacks a few things |
| [07:00:00] | dtm: | oic |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the thing its lacking is basename |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so for instance |
| [07:00:00] | dtm: | there's no way to algorithmically correct the data like with 'sed' |
| [07:00:00] | dtm: | ? |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 2005-12–26 18:00:00 that is the date of a program I just added |
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| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I search my store directory for *20051226180000* |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it returns that recorded nuv file |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | from there I can get the full name and put that into basename |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and bingo it works |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but not after manually entering the rest of the data haha |
| [07:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its alright its only 50 programs |
| [07:02:00] | djohnson: | defaultro: My Hauppauge 150 has RCA jack input, good quality, and is cheap |
| [07:03:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: i was gonna write a script to do the opposite. to delete from the db the names of shows i've already manually deleted from my filesystem |
| [07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that works dtm |
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| [07:11:00] | mchou: | damn, I just saw "Grizzly Man" on Discovery |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | that's some crazy shit |
| [07:13:00] | hadees: | mchou, i was watching that also, i can't belive they got hate mail after he died |
| [07:17:00] | dtm: | yeah. |
| [07:17:00] | dtm: | and that guy who said he got what he deserved |
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| [07:17:00] | dtm: | that was an utterly tasteless way to voice it |
| [07:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: no thanks |
| [07:17:00] | dtm: | that's the soundbite people will remember, and the media will preserve, out of his whole otherwise fairly reasonable speech |
| [07:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: that had to be horrible |
| [07:17:00] | hadees: | he got what was most likely to happen |
| [07:17:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: they didn't show the tragedy :) |
| [07:18:00] | dtm: | hadees: yeah that's what the guy was trying to say but nobody deserves to be eaten alive |
| [07:18:00] | dtm: | ^_^ |
| [07:18:00] | dtm: | he already made his point ^_^ |
| [07:19:00] | hadees: | yeah i know the guy loved the bears but i am not sure exactly why he had to do all that to save the bears although he did get some crazy shots |
| [07:20:00] | hadees: | just sad, if he had just done it from a distance he could still be fighting for them |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hey mchou |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you read above what happend to me last night? |
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| [07:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: your right I can make it easy |
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| [07:33:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: k |
| [07:33:00] | Kury: | Can anyone help me w/ my PVR 350 card... I can't get the darn thing to work.. I've read throught the tutorial.. and the trouble shooting guides.. |
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| [07:36:00] | AlienBaby: | Is the bttv kernel module required for PVR 350? |
| [07:38:00] | Kury: | the tutorials say nothing about it... but I thought it was.. from past experience.. |
| [07:39:00] | Kury: | I'm having to rebuild this system do to a bad hard drive... that I lost a few weeks back |
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| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn it |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I hit the wrong button |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | :-. |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anyway I just did a simple replace dtm |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | k |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | now granted every single entry has the same date and all that |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: in sed? |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | eh? |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just modified the 'INSERT INTO' |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | from my borked database backup |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | now granted I have to modify those it wont be near as bad |
| [07:44:00] | Kury: | the ivtv drive compiled & installed fine... it is currently loaded as a module fine... but I get a segfault when I run ptune.pl and I can't run mplayer on any of my /dev/video# devices.. |
| [07:45:00] | AlienBaby: | my ivtv .42 is locking up my system.. or maybe it's myth .19 |
| [07:45:00] | AlienBaby: | I dont know.. |
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| [07:52:00] | Kury: | no one knows anything about the ivtv driver for the pvr 350? |
| [08:02:00] | phar0e: | Hello lovers |
| [08:02:00] | dtm: | phar0e: <3 |
| [08:02:00] | phar0e: | i'm making progress, what more could I ask for? |
| [08:02:00] | dtm: | alrighty, then. |
| [08:06:00] | phar0e: | zap2it is so nice |
| [08:06:00] | dtm: | <3 |
| [08:07:00] | phar0e: | someone is frisky tonight |
| [08:07:00] | phar0e: | man... they don't ouput the adult channels over firewire |
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| [08:10:00] | Kury: | now I'm getting "unable to open: No such device at /usr/bin/ptune.pl line 311" |
| [08:10:00] | Kury: | any ideas anyone? |
| [08:11:00] | phar0e: | what is line 311 of ptune.pl? |
| [08:12:00] | Kury: | its an open call on my suposid.. video devices... that doesn't appear to exist.. |
| [08:13:00] | Kury: | although I'm not sure why.. |
| [08:13:00] | Kury: | its a pvr 350 |
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| [08:15:00] | phar0e: | hmm |
| [08:15:00] | phar0e: | is the module loaded for it? |
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| [08:15:00] | Kury: | ya.. ivtv |
| [08:15:00] | Kury: | I'm not sure if there is suppose to be others... but the ivtv is loaded |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: what happened last night? |
| [08:17:00] | Nipper: | Anyone know if mythtv 0.19 still borked with mysql5, or was that fixed before the 0.19 release? |
| [08:17:00] | phar0e: | I read about people having no problems with mysql5 |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: my mobo died |
| [08:17:00] | phar0e: | I run mysql5, but... I'm in a bit of a transitional stage |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: it was during the update from 18 to 19 |
| [08:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so it blew apart my database |
| [08:18:00] | Nipper: | Yeah, all my scheduled recordings are marked as 'has been recorded' |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | that's a mythweb bug, not a mysql issue |
| [08:18:00] | Nipper: | Using 0.19 |
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| [08:19:00] | Chutt: | mostly fixed in svn |
| [08:19:00] | phar0e: | I get on demand channels via firewire, that's weird.. do you have to press buttons to start the ondemand programs? |
| [08:19:00] | Nipper: | Chutt: Oh? the backend won;t record those programs though? |
| [08:19:00] | Chutt: | it should |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: your mobo died during upgrade?? |
| [08:19:00] | Chutt: | use the frontend to check :p |
| [08:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: on my main system yes I was sshed in |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: how exactly did this happen? |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm bad mobo? |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: that must have been a super duper upgrade |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I have my main system that I am talking on right now |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | I've never had a mobo die on me |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | only bad caps :) |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was all defective |
| [08:20:00] | Nipper: | Chutt: Manage Recordings->Upcoming Recordings shows none to record. |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the USB died |
| [08:20:00] | Chutt: | well, then, different issue =) |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | USB dying doesnt mean mobo is dead :) |
| [08:20:00] | Nipper: | Ah, lovely... |
| [08:21:00] | Chutt: | make sure there's no errors in the logs/whatnot |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: yeah but it sure as hell crashed the hell out of my computer haha |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: it crashed KDE extremely hard |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | bah, I'm in the market for a new system, I think. |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I am repairing the database by hand |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tis all good |
| [08:22:00] | Nipper: | Hmm, using front-end to set schedules, but they don't get saved :P |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | but my old systems work so well, but no USB2 |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | or firewire |
| [08:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe well every last keyboard of mine is USB |
| [08:23:00] | Chutt: | i had an odd problem with a usb keyboard today |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | Chutt: how odd? :) |
| [08:23:00] | Chutt: | the keyboard refused to do anything |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | no lights, no response from the computer |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | Chutt: was it plugged in? :) |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | pulled the plug, put it back in, nothing |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | rebooted the computer, nothing |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | hooked up another usb keyboard, worked fine. |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | removed that one, put the old one back, didn't work |
| [08:25:00] | Chutt: | hooked up the working one while the non-working one was plugged in, and they both worked. |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [08:25:00] | Chutt: | removed the new one, and the previously non-working one was fine |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | haha, that's some boot sequence |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [08:26:00] | Nipper: | Ah well, will downgrade mysql for a start, seems pretty messed up. |
| [08:26:00] | Chutt: | i think it just went wonky from the electric company playing with my power the other day |
| [08:26:00] | Chutt: | that machine (my mythtv production box) was the only one that rebooted |
| [08:26:00] | mchou: | Chutt: possible |
| [08:27:00] | mchou: | Chutt: you get a lot of brownouts over there or what? |
| [08:27:00] | Chutt: | not this time of year |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Chutt: trist me I tried doing alot |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it just would refuse to work |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no usb devices would work at all |
| [08:27:00] | Chutt: | there were two big trucks outside my house and they dug up the buried electrical box beside my driveway :p |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | Chutt: umm, they didnt shut your power off while doing that? |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | that's fubar |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | one computer shutdown, and i think the cablebox reset itself |
| [08:28:00] | phar0e: | probably not the best place to ask, but I am an asshat, anyone know of a program/codec in windows to watch uncompressed mpeg2 data files? |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | everything else was fine |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | uncompressed mpeg2?? Is there even such a thing? |
| [08:29:00] | phar0e: | I think so |
| [08:31:00] | dtm: | phar0e: uncompressed huh? you got a few hundred terabytes you found in a closet and want to know what's on them? |
| [08:31:00] | dtm: | just kinda curious what they're doing there? |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: kde is generally a crashfest anyways |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: serves you right for running kde and mysql on the same machine |
| [08:32:00] | dtm: | phar0e: by my math (720*480*3*30*60*60/1024/1024/1024), you're lookin at about 104TB per hour of video alone, at 720x480 |
| [08:32:00] | dtm: | 30fps |
| [08:33:00] | dtm: | 24bpp |
| [08:33:00] | phar0e: | aaa, I was never good at lingo with tech terms |
| [08:33:00] | phar0e: | I was just trying to sound like I knew there was a difference |
| [08:33:00] | dtm: | phar0e: ok so what is it really? mplayer -identify -frames 0 foo.mpeg |
| [08:34:00] | phar0e: | VIDEO: MPEG2 720x480 (aspect 2) 29.970 fps 15000.0 kbps (1875.0 kbyte/s) |
| [08:34:00] | Kury: | do any of you guys run the ivtv driver? |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | Kury: haha |
| [08:34:00] | phar0e: | I don't kury, sorry |
| [08:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I hardly ever have KDE crashing |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it only crashes if something catastrophic happens |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | Kury: you must be joking, right? |
| [08:35:00] | dtm: | phar0e: that's an outrageously high bitrate though |
| [08:35:00] | dtm: | phar0e: so, you play it with mplayer. it'll play anything. |
| [08:35:00] | dtm: | phar0e: that's about twice your average DVD |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: I get kde stack traces all the time |
| [08:35:00] | dtm: | high quality dvd |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: kicker likes to go south on me |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: hmm I have no issues |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I use gentoo though and compile it |
| [08:36:00] | Kury: | mchou: would you mind filling me in.. because I'm 100% serouse.. |
| [08:36:00] | phar0e: | dtm: I want to play them from windows though, the linux machine is on the cold tile downstairs |
| [08:37:00] | phar0e: | I guess I could use vnc, but i'm more of the point and click type of guy |
| [08:37:00] | mchou: | Kury: I'd wager about >85% of myth users use ivtv if they capture analog |
| [08:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I run weeks without KDE going south heh |
| [08:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the only reason why it goes down is cause I do something stupid and have to restart X |
| [08:38:00] | Kury: | mchou: thats what I would expect.. although I'v been waiting in here for a helpful ivtv soul.. to come along for some time now.. so... |
| [08:38:00] | dtm: | phar0e: so play it on mplayer on windows. |
| [08:38:00] | Kury: | thats how I phrased the question.. |
| [08:38:00] | dtm: | phar0e: mplayerhq.hu has it. maybe download.com does too. there are gui versions. |
| [08:38:00] | phar0e: | holy sh... |
| [08:38:00] | Kury: | where should the firmware images go for ivtv v0.4.3? |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | Kury: unless you ask specific questions no one will help you |
| [08:38:00] | dtm: | phar0e: or videolan.org |
| [08:39:00] | mchou: | I dont use 0.4.3 |
| [08:39:00] | mchou: | still on 4.2 |
| [08:39:00] | phar0e: | dtm: wow, news to me on a windows verison of it, been many months before I last installed mplayer |
| [08:39:00] | mchou: | Kury: and the docs tell you where the firmware files should go |
| [08:39:00] | mchou: | so does the ivtv log, iirc |
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| [08:40:00] | Kury: | mchou: it says /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ yet I'm getting errors in /var/log/messages that say it can't load/find the firmware for the card |
| [08:40:00] | Kury: | file v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [08:41:00] | phar0e: | badass dtm, thanks for pointing that out |
| [08:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: but yeah I am having to manually enter all the information for over a year's worth of recordings haha |
| [08:41:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: there is no need to do that |
| [08:41:00] | dtm: | phar0e: oic k |
| [08:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why mchou? |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: sed, grep, tr aree your friend |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | are your friends* |
| [08:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | have already done half of it |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | Kury: the location depends on your distro, iirc |
| [08:43:00] | Kury: | mchou: gentoo.. |
| [08:43:00] | mchou: | Kury: haha |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | Kury: then go ask some gentoo zealot where hotplug firmware files should be stored |
| [08:44:00] | dtm: | Kury: to be absolutely sure, you could symlink /lib/firmware to that |
| [08:45:00] | dtm: | Kury: i'm 99.99999999% sure that /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware is correct though. |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | Kury: if I'm not mistaken you might also need a *.bin fw file, iirc |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: gentoo + ivtv? |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | easy as hell heh |
| [08:46:00] | Kury: | no |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh misunderstood |
| [08:47:00] | Kury: | it was last time... but they've changed so much in ivtv.. that they are releasing a specific version for each kernel.. here for awhile until they get ivtv worked completely into the kernel itself I guess?? |
| [08:49:00] | Kury: | thats my understanding of whats going on anyways.. |
| [08:55:00] | Kury: | no ideas then hu? |
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| [08:57:00] | dtm: | Kury: you might check for #ivtv or #vrl |
| [08:57:00] | dtm: | er #v4l |
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| [09:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: but yeah if I lost my 2 seasons of lost that I have built up I think I would lose my mind |
| [09:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [09:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that show is one that you have to watch over and over |
| [09:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sometimes even frame by frame :) |
| [09:05:00] | Juski: | so presumably, I've yet to live cos I've never seen 'lost' |
| [09:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [09:05:00] | eiggirC: | Juski: you're not missing anything |
| [09:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | like hell! |
| [09:05:00] | Juski: | beg to differ, and I've never even seen it ;-) |
| [09:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ;-) |
| [09:05:00] | eiggirC: | now, BSG... thats another matter again |
| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | heh |
| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah I did not like BSG |
| [09:06:00] | eiggirC: | not that it shows here.... |
| [09:06:00] | ** eiggirC looks to the sky and dum de doos ** | |
| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | although I have started watching Invasion |
| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that show is cool |
| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | creepy but cool |
| [09:06:00] | Juski: | invasion is losing me fast |
| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dude how can you miss lost? |
| [09:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its on just before invasion |
| [09:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [09:07:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: oh really |
| [09:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [09:07:00] | Juski: | it's on erm.. never in my house so I dunno ;-) |
| [09:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [09:08:00] | Juski: | what episode number of Invasion does stuff actually happen? |
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| [09:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: none really |
| [09:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: its just a interesting story to me |
| [09:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | creepy but cool |
| [09:09:00] | Juski: | we're half way through the series here and I'm starting to feel indifferent about it |
| [09:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
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| [09:14:00] | AMD64Athlon: | hi |
| [09:15:00] | AMD64Athlon: | anyone using MythTV with ATI wonder card |
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| [09:17:00] | Juski: | ATI 'wonder why it doesn't work in Linux' ? ;-) |
| [09:18:00] | Juski: | AFAIK the only ATI tuners which are supported in Linux are the TV wonder cards, not 'all in wonder' ones |
| [09:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yay 5 more left :) |
| [09:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then I am good to go |
| [09:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [09:20:00] | Kury: | why would my firmware not beable to load for the pvr 350? |
| [09:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: use 2.6.13 |
| [09:20:00] | Kury: | why? |
| [09:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause 14 and 15 are piles of shit that slide down the wall for ivtv |
| [09:20:00] | Kury: | I'm not having problems w/ the drivers themselves.. |
| [09:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | are you trying to do hardware decoding? |
| [09:21:00] | Kury: | I'm getting an Error -3 initializing firmware |
| [09:21:00] | Kury: | in my /var/log/messages.. |
| [09:21:00] | Juski: | is that the 'can't find firmware' error? |
| [09:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dmesg Kury get the error and paste it to rafb.net/paste |
| [09:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I will take a look |
| [09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: it should be pretty obvious what IVTV is doing though |
| [09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it will be like -------------------- IVTV --------------------------- |
| [09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or something like that |
| [09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when you go to modprobe it |
| [09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it will give you whatever errors or whatever its doing |
| [09:24:00] | Kury: | http://pastebin.com/572991 |
| [09:25:00] | Kury: | I'v never gotten a single error when modprobing.. its always went fine w/ no errors.. |
| [09:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | strange Kury |
| [09:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what kernel are you using? |
| [09:27:00] | Kury: | one of my firmware files isn't coming up w/ the md5's that are listed here http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware but I'v re d/l and extracted it several times.. and I keep getting the same value |
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| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: did you not use emerge ivtv? |
| [09:29:00] | Kury: | I'v done it both ways... and it installs fine.. it loads everything fine.. |
| [09:29:00] | Kury: | their are no errors anywhere.. except this little blip about the firmware not loading |
| [09:29:00] | Kury: | which tends to matter just a little :P |
| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: once again what kernel version |
| [09:30:00] | Kury: | where is the support for hotplugable firmware in the kernel menu? |
| [09:30:00] | Kury: | 2.6.13 |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then I have no idea |
| [09:32:00] | Kury: | any idea why that md5sum wouldn't be coming out right? |
| [09:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no idea I always used emerge for the drivers and specified my version of ivtv that I wanted |
| [09:33:00] | Kury: | its only the v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg ... but |
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| [09:34:00] | Kury: | are you/we suppose to d/l the firmware manualy when you emerge ivtv or does emerge take care of it? |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I guess you havent tried emerging it have you? |
| [09:34:00] | Kury: | ya 2 different version |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well then you would know that it takes care of downloading everything for you |
| [09:34:00] | Kury: | but I'v also resorted to d/l the latest stable.. and installing it |
| [09:34:00] | dtm: | Kury: the firmware is proprietary. you're supposed to get it from the device's Windows installer or whatever. |
| [09:35:00] | Kury: | so emerge comes w/ these proprietary firmwares though.. |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | add this to your /etc/portage/package.keywords '=media-tv/ivtv-0.4.0-r3 ~x86' |
| [09:35:00] | Juski: | Kury: hot pluggable stuff is in the Bus options part of menuconfig |
| [09:35:00] | AMD64Athlon: | well I have a TV wonder card and I am able to view it using TV time but I was hoping that i would be able to use MythTV with it |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | of you use amd64 Kury then use ~amd64 |
| [09:36:00] | Juski: | though it's not enabled on my system with a pvr150, Kury. I have hotplug installed though |
| [09:36:00] | Juski: | as in 'emerge hotplug' ;-) |
| [09:36:00] | Kury: | Juski: what is it labled? all I see is hotpluggable cpu's pci, etc... no firmware |
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| [09:37:00] | Juski: | AMD64Athlon: if it works in tvtime okay, chances are you can use it with mythtv. it's only a software encoding card though so results might be disappointing (very disappointing) |
| [09:38:00] | Juski: | Kury: just emerge hotplug – I don't think you need the option enabled in the kernel for it. I don't have & my pvr150 gets its firmware loaded okay |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: if you want to know what I run on my AMD64 mythtv box check this http://rafb.net/paste/results/O0ECVo26.html |
| [09:38:00] | Kury: | Juski: gots it.. and the system is all updated as of this morning |
| [09:38:00] | AMD64Athlon: | Juski: so I would be better off just getting the Hauppauge 150 |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats how my /etc/portage/package.keywords looks |
| [09:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: I have a habit of keeping it clean :) |
| [09:40:00] | Kury: | SlicerDicer: its cool... I do the same thing w/ all my USE flags :P |
| [09:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
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| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | makes it much more readable and quicker to edit with it clean like that :) |
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| [09:42:00] | Kury: | welp.. I was going to make a correction in the wiki.. but.. aparently I have to have an account :( |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so has anybody had issues with trying to delete things with mythweb 0.19? |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kury: make one :) |
| [09:44:00] | Juski: | AMD64Athlon: PVR150 cards beat the ass off any framegrabber card ;-) |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: all the PVR's are nice :) |
| [09:44:00] | Juski: | I tried a framegrabber for about 5 minutes last year.. it worked & all that but looked crap |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PVR 150, 250, 350, 500 are all nice |
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| [09:45:00] | Juski: | my test of a framegrabber (which looked great in tvtime I might add) looked more like VHS than mythtv |
| [09:46:00] | Juski: | anyway folks – RIP analogue TV, soon |
| [09:46:00] | Kury: | I'm just wondering if I'm missing something in my kernel.. |
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| [09:47:00] | Juski: | Kury: is it notjust that you've put the firmware in the wrong place? took me ages to find out where my system wanted it (it wasn't where the docs said) |
| [09:48:00] | Juski: | Kury: also if the md5 sum doesn't check out, that'll be where the problem lies.... unless the md5 is wrong somehow |
| [09:48:00] | Kury: | .. I have it in both /lib/firmware/ and /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ and one was installed by me manualy and the other is from emerge... and they both have the same md5sum's.. |
| [09:49:00] | Kury: | the only md5 that doesn't match the tutorial I'm following is the mpg file.. but I'd image that one doesn't matter (maybe they changed it??) and the emerge one matches mine I d/l'ed and extracted so.. |
| [09:50:00] | Kury: | what options should I have / not have under the v4l menu in the kernel config? |
| [09:51:00] | Juski: | eh? it's an mpg file not a .bin file? |
| [09:52:00] | Kury: | v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg |
| [09:52:00] | Kury: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [09:52:00] | Kury: | so I guess that one is fine.. because the md5 isn't there... |
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| [10:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so has anybody had any issues with mythweb and not being able to delete recordings with the delete button in 0.19? |
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| [10:05:00] | Juski: | not so far |
| [10:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when I click delete it does nothing |
| [10:07:00] | Juski: | prolly a permissions issue or something |
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| [10:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: changed permissions and nothing |
| [10:18:00] | bcarlisl: | Hi all. |
| [10:19:00] | bcarlisl: | I seem to be having a permissions problem but I can't figure out what to do. |
| [10:20:00] | bcarlisl: | Specifically, the relevant error that I got when trying to watch live tv is this: |
| [10:21:00] | bcarlisl: | NVP::OpenFile(): Error, file not found: /mnt/store//1001_20060226051728.mpg |
| [10:21:00] | Juski: | too many slashes in the setup? you've got /mnt/store/ instead of /mnt/store ? |
| [10:21:00] | bcarlisl: | hmmm |
| [10:21:00] | bcarlisl: | I'll check that. |
| [10:22:00] | Juski: | does /mnt/store exist and does the mythtv user have permissions to write to it? |
| [10:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: when you go to delete something with mythweb in 0.19 what happens? |
| [10:23:00] | Juski: | SlicerDicer: it er.. just deletes the file.. or it might ask me if I'm sure first |
| [10:23:00] | bcarlisl: | Juski: http://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gaim/gaim-1.5.0.exe |
| [10:23:00] | bcarlisl: | oops |
| [10:23:00] | bcarlisl: | wrong middleclick haha |
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| [10:23:00] | bcarlisl: | NVP::OpenFile(): Error, file not found: /mnt/store/1001_20060226052407.mpg |
| [10:24:00] | Juski: | bcarlisl: could also be yer tuner not set up properly.. file won't be recorded if that's the case |
| [10:25:00] | bcarlisl: | Tuner should be set up properly |
| [10:25:00] | bcarlisl: | It finds all the channels just fine. |
| [10:25:00] | Juski: | dvb-t ? |
| [10:25:00] | bcarlisl: | I'm using a pvr350 |
| [10:26:00] | Juski: | run mythbackend in a terminal, or post /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log in a pastebin |
| [10:26:00] | bcarlisl: | And ls -l shows mythtv:video as the owner/group on the files. :-/ |
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| [10:29:00] | bcarlisl: | bingo |
| [10:29:00] | bcarlisl: | QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [10:29:00] | bcarlisl: | That may be the source of my errors. |
| [10:32:00] | Juski: | failed to connect to the mysql server eh |
| [10:34:00] | bcarlisl: | I guess so, I'll check my mysql real quick |
| [10:34:00] | laga: | 11:29 < bcarlisl> QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [10:34:00] | laga: | ^^ maybe mythbackend is already running |
| [10:36:00] | Juski: | wuhh.. or that... mornin laga |
| [10:36:00] | laga: | morning Juski |
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| [10:37:00] | bcarlisl: | ok, doesn't look like it's giving that error any more |
| [10:37:00] | bcarlisl: | next line just says starting up as master server |
| [10:38:00] | cat: | i can't get 0.19 working with my tv card, and i want to tape some stuff... any pointers on how to *remove* 0.19 so i can put the old one back? |
| [10:38:00] | bcarlisl: | I cat'd /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log again |
| [10:38:00] | mace: | hi – i'm having some mythweb problems on debian following an upgrade and wondered if anyone could advise me on how to find out what the problem is? i get a "Database Setup Error" message when trying to view mythweb.php..? |
| [10:38:00] | Juski: | btw laga: http://world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread . . . 8&page=2 |
| [10:39:00] | cat: | heh, ok make uninstall... that was srupidly easy |
| [10:40:00] | laga: | Juski: o_O thanks |
| [10:40:00] | Juski: | cat: if you couldn't get 0.19 to work.. good luck with 0.18 |
| [10:40:00] | bcarlisl: | Would lirc_init failing cause any problems with mpeg files not being found for live tv playback? |
| [10:40:00] | Juski: | bcarlisl: no |
| [10:40:00] | Juski: | it'd stop your remote working though |
| [10:41:00] | bcarlisl: | k, I'll deal with that later. |
| [10:41:00] | cat: | 0.18 was *fine* |
| [10:41:00] | cat: | 0.19 just wont see my card atm |
| [10:41:00] | cat: | i'll try again when tehre's less tv on :P |
| [10:41:00] | bcarlisl: | I have chowned and set rw permissions on /mnt/store for mythtv:video |
| [10:41:00] | bcarlisl: | And the mpeg file it creates is mythtv:video |
| [10:42:00] | bcarlisl: | owner/group that is |
| [10:42:00] | bcarlisl: | Could it have to do with the fact that I'm using JFS? |
| [10:42:00] | bcarlisl: | for my /mnt/store partition |
| [10:44:00] | Juski: | nah |
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| [10:46:00] | laga: | Juski: is it possible that people in this forum suck a little bit? |
| [10:47:00] | Juski: | everything is possible |
| [10:47:00] | laga: | heh. gee, it's not even 12am and i'm already in a shitty mood ;) |
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| [10:47:00] | laga: | my firefox crashed. dammit. |
| [10:48:00] | Juski: | oh I know... time to strike up some more NFS |
| [10:49:00] | Juski: | "do not drive in a real car like you drive in this game." |
| [10:49:00] | Juski: | DUH. my car won't do 180 MPH |
| [10:50:00] | laga: | mine won't even do 180km/h ;) |
| [10:50:00] | bcarlisl: | :( I haven't the slightest clue as to why this isn't working. |
| [10:51:00] | bcarlisl: | The channels all autodetect, I can mythfilldatabase just fine, but I can't watch livetv because it tells me the file that is clearly there is not there. |
| [10:51:00] | bcarlisl: | What user does mythfrontend run as? |
| [10:51:00] | fryfrog: | what ever you log into X as? |
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| [10:52:00] | bcarlisl: | I log in as my user, but I'm running mythfrontend as root. |
| [10:53:00] | bcarlisl: | in a terminal window |
| [10:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | heh mine would do about 160 if it was not speed locked for import to USA lol Juski ;-) |
| [10:53:00] | fryfrog: | bcarlisl: any particular reason? |
| [10:53:00] | fryfrog: | i happen to login to X as "mythtv" then just run mythfrontend |
| [10:54:00] | bcarlisl: | No particular reason, just because I've been starting and stopping the scripts and needed to be root to do so |
| [10:54:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [10:54:00] | fryfrog: | did you "su" or "su -"? |
| [10:54:00] | fryfrog: | erm, nm |
| [10:55:00] | fryfrog: | you aren't having display issues obviously |
| [10:55:00] | fryfrog: | and root can see everything :/ |
| [10:55:00] | bcarlisl: | same error running as normal user |
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| [10:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wow logging in as root to do script starts and stops |
| [10:57:00] | milkyflava: | hello |
| [10:57:00] | ** SlicerDicer- is baffled ** | |
| [10:57:00] | milkyflava: | When trying to access mythweb I am getting Database Error |
| [10:57:00] | bcarlisl: | I could sudo, but I don't have it installed at the moment. |
| [10:57:00] | milkyflava: | I have added AllowOverride All into my httpd.conf file |
| [10:58:00] | laga: | milkyflava: edit .htaccess |
| [10:58:00] | milkyflava: | I have made sure the .htaccess was correct with the db and user and pwd |
| [10:58:00] | milkyflava: | does .19 have to have authenticated access now? |
| [10:58:00] | bcarlisl: | Invalid file (fd 16) |
| [10:59:00] | laga: | milkyflava: i don't think it's enabled by default |
| [10:59:00] | milkyflava: | laga: No it's not, does it need to be now? I mean is it now a requirement? |
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| [11:01:00] | bcarlisl: | RingBuf is dying. |
| [11:01:00] | laga: | milkyflava: nope |
| [11:01:00] | laga: | bcarlisl: ringbuffeR? are you still on 0.18? |
| [11:01:00] | milkyflava: | I didn't think so |
| [11:01:00] | milkyflava: | any other ideas? |
| [11:01:00] | bcarlisl: | 0.19-r1 |
| [11:02:00] | laga: | bcarlisl: well, there shouldn't be any ringbuffers involved |
| [11:02:00] | bcarlisl: | 2006-02–26 05:57:49.643 RingBuf(/mnt/store/1001_20060226055749.mpg): Invalid file (fd 16) when opening '/mnt/store/1001_20060226055749.mpg'. |
| [11:02:00] | bcarlisl: | That's what pops up when I try to watch live tv |
| [11:02:00] | bcarlisl: | and it has 12 retries |
| [11:02:00] | laga: | oh |
| [11:02:00] | bcarlisl: | and fails |
| [11:02:00] | bcarlisl: | every time |
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| [11:02:00] | bcarlisl: | and then tells me it can't open the file |
| [11:02:00] | laga: | can you record? |
| [11:02:00] | bcarlisl: | Dunno, haven't tried since I don't know of anything I want to record. |
| [11:03:00] | Juski: | hm. car racing games with glazed over eyes.. not good performance |
| [11:03:00] | laga: | bcarlisl: just record something. and check the backend logs |
| [11:05:00] | bcarlisl: | I set it to record something in 4 minutes for a minute |
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| [11:08:00] | milkyflava: | laga: when you said to edit .htaccess, was that to make sure my settings to access the DB were correct? |
| [11:08:00] | laga: | milkyflava: yep! |
| [11:08:00] | milkyflava: | ok, I am lost now and have posted to the list. Thanks for the effort. |
| [11:09:00] | milkyflava: | One more question, should the mythweb.php file be executable? |
| [11:10:00] | laga: | i don't think so |
| [11:12:00] | milkyflava: | neither did I, I am now grasping at straws as I slowly slip into madness trying to figure this out |
| [11:12:00] | dtm: | milkyflava: no web-accessible php files need to be executable |
| [11:12:00] | dtm: | milkyflava: did you read the error_log of apache |
| [11:12:00] | milkyflava: | yes, I'll post that here |
| [11:13:00] | dtm: | heh. |
| [11:13:00] | bcarlisl: | laga: It's still telling me invalid file |
| [11:13:00] | milkyflava: | PHP Notice: Undefined index: PATH_INFO in /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 37, referer: http://192.168.9.7/mythweb/ |
| [11:13:00] | laga: | bcarlisl: check the backend logs |
| [11:13:00] | milkyflava: | I looked at line 37 and have no idea what I would need to do |
| [11:13:00] | bcarlisl: | Is there any option to make the logs verbose? |
| [11:14:00] | bcarlisl: | Starting up as the master server. |
| [11:14:00] | bcarlisl: | 2006-02–26 06:12:27.765 Using runtime prefix = /usr |
| [11:14:00] | bcarlisl: | 2006-02–26 06:12:27.790 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [11:14:00] | bcarlisl: | 2006-02–26 06:12:27.798 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost |
| [11:14:00] | Juski: | bcarlisl: you know, mythtv doesn't set up UK channels by itself.. how did you add your channels? |
| [11:14:00] | bcarlisl: | I scanned. |
| [11:14:00] | bcarlisl: | And I'm in the U.S. |
| [11:14:00] | laga: | bcarlisl: don't flood. mythbackend --verbose help |
| [11:16:00] | milkyflava: | When I do try to access mythweb, all I get is the directory listing, then when I click on mythweb.php is when the error hits |
| [11:20:00] | laga: | milkyflava: did you restart apache after adding the allowoverride stuff? |
| [11:20:00] | milkyflava: | yes I did |
| [11:21:00] | laga: | milkyflava: do you have any vhosts defined that may override the AllowOverride directive? |
| [11:21:00] | milkyflava: | none. |
| [11:22:00] | milkyflava: | There are about 3–4 AllowOverride's in http.conf, I only changed the first one |
| [11:23:00] | laga: | milkyflava: read the whole file and try to understand what belongs to what ;) |
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| [11:24:00] | milkyflava: | shit. |
| [11:24:00] | milkyflava: | It was the second AllowOverride I needed to change |
| [11:24:00] | laga: | :) |
| [11:24:00] | milkyflava: | lol |
| [11:24:00] | milkyflava: | I think the comment in the http.conf file about .htaccess should have tipped me off. |
| [11:24:00] | milkyflava: | thanks laga! |
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| [11:25:00] | laga: | no problem ;) |
| [11:25:00] | laga: | always glad to hit people with the clue bat |
| [11:26:00] | milkyflava: | lol |
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| [11:27:00] | milkyflava: | Well, thats it. My upgrade is now completed! I am going to sleep now. |
| [11:27:00] | milkyflava: | night laga and thanks again |
| [11:27:00] | laga: | have a good night ;) |
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| [11:27:00] | Brov: | How do I get fixed pitch fonts working in mythweb eg guitartab = unplayable as its not lined up properly: http://www.guitaretab.com/l/led-zeppelin/21671.html |
| [11:28:00] | laga: | do you mean mythbrowser? |
| [11:28:00] | Brov: | yer sorry |
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| [11:28:00] | laga: | no clue ;) |
| [11:28:00] | Juski: | web browsing on TV... bah humbug |
| [11:28:00] | Brov: | i set it up for my gf so she can see tabs nice n big on the telly and not need me to print them out |
| [11:29:00] | Brov: | no its looks great |
| [11:29:00] | Brov: | zoom = 200% |
| [11:29:00] | coffee88: | Stairway denied!! |
| [11:29:00] | Brov: | if you try that link in myth browser ne1 and see if it lines up for you |
| [11:29:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:30:00] | Brov: | maybe i need to add fonts to XF86Config-4 ? |
| [11:30:00] | ** laga doesn't have mythbrowser installed ** | |
| [11:31:00] | Juski: | well I reckon I've cleared up what gives me stinking hangovers, Becks or JD... it's not the Becks |
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| [11:31:00] | laga: | heh. i get hangover from everything so there's no need to debug |
| [11:31:00] | laga: | though i'd like to blame the cuba libre for yesterday's |
| [11:32:00] | coffee88: | One minor annoyance with mythweb... If I have the date format set to 12 hour clock, then there appears to be no am/pm indication? |
| [11:32:00] | laga: | i wonder if the kernel automagically starts /sbin/portmap if i do nfsroot. |
| [11:32:00] | coffee88: | Gets a bit confusing sometimes... |
| [11:33:00] | Juski: | laga: think it does on gentoo |
| [11:33:00] | Brov: | so ne1 know why fixed pitch fonts dont work? |
| [11:34:00] | Juski: | er.. cos you've not got any installed? |
| [11:34:00] | laga: | Juski: only on gentoo? ;) |
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| [11:34:00] | Juski: | laga: think so.. that's what had me so confuzzled about umbongo's slow mounting of NFS shares |
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| [11:35:00] | laga: | well, the kernel should do the same on every distro, maybe it's done in userspace then, prolly by init |
| [11:36:00] | Juski: | yeh maybe |
| [11:36:00] | Juski: | I've just read that $ky TV have this new feature coming... press a button on your remote to set a reminder for a show they run a trailer for, when the trailer is on |
| [11:37:00] | Juski: | see trailer, go "oooo".. press button & a recording is set up. nifty |
| [11:37:00] | laga: | sound slike MHEG..i believe there was a patch for this stuff somewhere in trac |
| [11:37:00] | Juski: | be ages til terrestrial broadcasters get wise to it |
| [11:38:00] | Juski: | they have all this metadata & they're not doing anything with it |
| [11:38:00] | laga: | they suck? ;) |
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| [11:38:00] | Juski: | like bloody channel logos.. there's no need for em to be burnt into the video anymore |
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| [11:39:00] | laga: | i believe they do it to prevent people from copying the stream and redistributing it |
| [11:39:00] | Juski: | hmm. like it stops anyone |
| [11:39:00] | laga: | heh |
| [11:39:00] | Juski: | logo blur |
| [11:39:00] | Juski: | bing, sorted ;-) |
| [11:40:00] | Juski: | logos have broken many an early adopter's plasma :-D |
| [11:41:00] | laga: | well, early adopters deserve it ;) |
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| [11:44:00] | UBL: | early adopters dont deserve it :p |
| [11:46:00] | Juski: | oh yes they do |
| [11:47:00] | Juski: | very much looking forward to the outcry when $ky bring out their HDTV service & folks with 'HD' sets find they don't have HDCP |
| [11:47:00] | Juski: | muhahahah |
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| [11:52:00] | Syphn: | morning all ... |
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| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | i updated yesterday from 0.18 - ?0.19 and now when i try and access mytheweb i get: Database Setup Error |
| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | The database environment variables are not correctly set in the |
| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | included .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included |
| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | in the file and set up the db_* environment variables correctly. |
| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | Some possible solutions are to make sure that mod_env is enabled |
| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | in httpd.conf, as well as having followed the instructions in the |
| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | README about the AllowOverride settings. |
| [11:53:00] | Syphn: | any ideas? |
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| [11:53:00] | UBL: | did you do what the suggestion was in the error msg? |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | talk about a FAQ |
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| [11:59:00] | Syphn: | the only mod_env i have is: LoadModule env_mod modules/mod_env.so |
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| [12:00:00] | xinit: | hi |
| [12:00:00] | Syphn: | UBL: ? |
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| [12:01:00] | xinit: | I'm trying to compile mythtv 0.19 on ubuntu dapper, but I get NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:3188: error: 'lame_encode_flush_nogap' was not declared in this scope |
| [12:01:00] | UBL: | i'm still on 0.18.1, sorry |
| [12:01:00] | xinit: | what package is needed for lame_encode_flush_nogap? |
| [12:01:00] | Syphn: | UBL awe ... ok thanks ... |
| [12:01:00] | xinit: | I have liblame 3.96.1–1 installed.. |
| [12:02:00] | laga: | xinit: what about liblame-dev? |
| [12:02:00] | xinit: | got that one |
| [12:02:00] | xinit: | lame.h defines the function |
| [12:02:00] | xinit: | int CDECL lame_encode_flush_nogap( |
| [12:02:00] | laga: | make distclean and start over ;) |
| [12:03:00] | xinit: | mhh |
| [12:03:00] | xinit: | why would that help me? |
| [12:04:00] | laga: | because it often worked for me :) |
| [12:05:00] | xinit: | hmpf |
| [12:07:00] | xinit: | let's try again then.. |
| [12:07:00] | xinit: | but I doubt it |
| [12:08:00] | xinit: | building takes a lot of time... |
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| [12:09:00] | laga: | xinit: get ccache |
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| [12:11:00] | xinit: | ah.. :) |
| [12:16:00] | Syphn: | anyone have any idea what: and set up the db_* environment variables correctly. means? |
| [12:17:00] | Juski: | Syphn: it's not rocket science. you know that little mysql.txt file you made to get mythtv to talk to the mysql server? same details |
| [12:18:00] | Juski: | edit the .htaccess file in your mythweb directory, find the db details and put them right for your system |
| [12:18:00] | Syphn: | nope don't recall making one of those ... |
| [12:18:00] | Syphn: | sec. |
| [12:19:00] | Syphn: | there is nothing in my .htaccess file about db |
| [12:19:00] | Juski: | http://pastebin.com/573098 |
| [12:20:00] | Juski: | Syphn: in that case the installer probably didn't copy a new .htaccess file.. did you already have one there? |
| [12:20:00] | Syphn: | awe ... |
| [12:20:00] | Syphn: | sec. |
| [12:20:00] | Syphn: | yup |
| [12:20:00] | Juski: | remove the mythweb directory (or rename it).. then re-install mythweb |
| [12:21:00] | Syphn: | why is that? |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | just to be absolutely sure everything gets created with the right permissions etc |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | renaming is safest, but not necessary really |
| [12:21:00] | Syphn: | ya i iwll try that ... |
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| [12:22:00] | drdaz: | hmm... I've just followed the guide to move from rpms to source and... something's a bit wrong |
| [12:23:00] | drdaz: | mythbackend doesnt respond to "service mythbackend [...]" anymore |
| [12:23:00] | drdaz: | I can start it from console by typing mythbackend, but... using the service commands does nothing |
| [12:23:00] | drdaz: | similarly, it doesnt start at boot anymore... any ideas? |
| [12:24:00] | Syphn: | Juski: that fixed that error, new one now! |
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| [12:24:00] | Syphn: | Can't connect to the database server. #HY000Host '192.168.0.103' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server [#1130] |
| [12:25:00] | Syphn: | 192.168.0.103 is the internal ip of the mythbackend/frontend |
| [12:25:00] | Syphn: | should it just be localhost? or loopback? |
| [12:25:00] | drdaz: | ... the guide I followed was the one in the wiki btw |
| [12:25:00] | Juski: | I dunno if localhost will work |
| [12:26:00] | Syphn: | yup it does ... |
| [12:26:00] | Juski: | try it.. then if not, edit your my.cnf to bind the mysql server to your machine's real IP address |
| [12:26:00] | Syphn: | i only have 1 backend/frontend so it doesn't access any connections from other ip's |
| [12:26:00] | drdaz: | aha! found the problem |
| [12:26:00] | Juski: | fair enough |
| [12:26:00] | Syphn: | fancy ... new mythweb ... |
| [12:26:00] | Syphn: | i love updating :-) |
| [12:28:00] | Syphn: | Juski: mabey not ... a bunch of dead links ... http://192.168.0.103:8080/mythweb/tv/list doesn't exist |
| [12:28:00] | Syphn: | etc .. |
| [12:28:00] | Syphn: | might have to reinstall like you said |
| [12:29:00] | Juski: | no idea for that, but have a read of the .htaccess file for some tips to make sure apache & php are configured right |
| [12:30:00] | Syphn: | to fix this link problem? |
| [12:30:00] | Juski: | like I said, no idea |
| [12:31:00] | Syphn: | hmmm |
| [12:31:00] | Juski: | but reinstalling it & editing the .htaccess file again won't harm |
| [12:32:00] | Syphn: | i have to uninstall that modult before i can reintall it no? |
| [12:33:00] | Juski: | uninstalling may not remove the directory |
| [12:33:00] | Syphn: | ya i cna do that ... |
| [12:34:00] | drdaz: | looking @ the guides to install from source, they all suggest to have libmyth installed from binaries... would it not make some sense to compile that yourself too? |
| [12:34:00] | Syphn: | now i just need to get the package name of mthweb and how to uninstall it |
| [12:34:00] | drdaz: | or would that complicate matters? |
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| [12:38:00] | Syphn: | hmm how can i find out that package name? |
| [12:39:00] | drdaz: | which package? |
| [12:39:00] | Syphn: | mythweb |
| [12:39:00] | drdaz: | thats... what its called |
| [12:40:00] | Syphn: | well i can't just do yum remove mythweb? |
| [12:40:00] | drdaz: | cant you? does it take other stuff with it? |
| [12:40:00] | Syphn: | let me try that sec... |
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| [12:42:00] | phar0e: | la la la |
| [12:46:00] | Syphn: | well i guess i can do that ... yum remove mythweb |
| [12:46:00] | drdaz: | well yes |
| [12:47:00] | Syphn: | err .... |
| [12:47:00] | Syphn: | thats not good ... |
| [12:47:00] | drdaz: | ? |
| [12:48:00] | Syphn: | http://pastebin.com/573115 |
| [12:48:00] | Syphn: | i've used wilsonet's howto ... |
| [12:48:00] | Syphn: | so i have myth-suite instlaled |
| [12:48:00] | drdaz: | thats not a problem |
| [12:48:00] | Syphn: | i don't know if it wasnt to uninstall that as a dependency or not? |
| [12:49:00] | Syphn: | or is it just telling me that it was a dependency? |
| [12:49:00] | drdaz: | when it's done just yum install mythtv-suite and it will reinstall both packages |
| [12:49:00] | Syphn: | so will it uninstall myth-suite? |
| [12:49:00] | drdaz: | yes |
| [12:49:00] | drdaz: | but thats not as bad as you think |
| [12:49:00] | drdaz: | mythtv-suiute doesnt contain any usable binaries afaik |
| [12:49:00] | Syphn: | what about al my settings? channels? cards etc? |
| [12:50:00] | drdaz: | they will stay |
| [12:50:00] | Syphn: | ok ... :-( |
| [12:50:00] | ** Syphn crosses fingers ** | |
| [12:50:00] | Jasper: | hello, good morning |
| [12:50:00] | drdaz: | look @ the size of the package... there's almost literally nothing in it |
| [12:54:00] | Syphn: | mythweb uninstalled mythweb sir removed, yum install myth-suite processing ... |
| [12:56:00] | Syphn: | sweet! |
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| [13:01:00] | Syphn: | not i just have to repassword the mythweb dir ... |
| [13:02:00] | Syphn: | ha my mythvideo listing are all out of date ... |
| [13:02:00] | Syphn: | like way out of date ... |
| [13:09:00] | drdaz: | hmm... for some reason the option for openGL vsync has disappeared now that I've installed from source |
| [13:10:00] | laga: | drdaz: ./configure --help |
| [13:10:00] | drdaz: | I just rebuilt with it enabled |
| [13:10:00] | drdaz: | :-/ |
| [13:11:00] | Layer01 is now known as Layer01snooze | |
| [13:12:00] | drdaz: | but.. it aint there oO |
| [13:15:00] | drdaz: | it actually said after running configure that opengl vsync would be enabled, so I'm a tad confused |
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| [13:16:00] | laga: | maybe you installed using the wrong PREFIX. do you have /usr/share/mythtv/ and /usr/local/share/mythtv/ on your HDD? |
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| [13:16:00] | drdaz: | nah |
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| [13:17:00] | drdaz: | just /usr/share... |
| [13:19:00] | drdaz: | there should be no need to reboot for these changes to take effect surely? |
| [13:19:00] | drdaz: | I just restarted the backend and frontend after all the changes were made |
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| [13:20:00] | jan__: | hi all |
| [13:20:00] | dtm: | jan__: hi |
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| [13:21:00] | jan__: | i am getting this error: mythtv APIC error on CPU0: 02(02) and my mythtv is shuting down by it self... |
| [13:21:00] | jan__: | does anyone know what to do? |
| [13:22:00] | laga: | add 'noapic' to your kernel boot options |
| [13:22:00] | jan__: | ok thanks... :) |
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| [13:24:00] | dtm: | jan__: do you have smp? |
| [13:25:00] | jan__: | smp? |
| [13:26:00] | jan__: | what do you mean? |
| [13:28:00] | laga: | simultaneous multi processoring. do you have more than one cpu/hyperthreading/dualcore in that box? |
| [13:28:00] | jan__: | no |
| [13:29:00] | jan__: | only one cpu |
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| [13:32:00] | Jasper: | goodmorning laga |
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| [13:33:00] | laga: | hi Jasper ;) |
| [13:33:00] | Jasper: | I found out I had to disable my normal network device for wireless to work better |
| [13:33:00] | Jasper: | :P: |
| [13:34:00] | laga: | probably just a matter of getting the setup right ;) |
| [13:34:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [13:34:00] | Jasper: | when it tried downloading something |
| [13:34:00] | Jasper: | it first tried the non-wireless device |
| [13:34:00] | Jasper: | and it waited for that to time-out |
| [13:35:00] | Jasper: | before it went to wireless to try |
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| [13:35:00] | Jasper: | so I removed the eth0 and eth1 from rc-update |
| [13:35:00] | Jasper: | it's just this firewire connecting which is really bugging me |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | you using gentoo? |
| [13:35:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [13:36:00] | laga: | gentoo has excellent documentation :) |
| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | that's affirm |
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| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | but I followed the gentoo manual |
| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | and it stilld oesn't work |
| [13:36:00] | laga: | that's weird |
| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/ipod |
| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | that's what it sticks me with |
| [13:37:00] | Jasper: | it doesn't create a sda or anything |
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| [13:37:00] | laga: | are you sure it's possible to use an ipod over firewire with linux? |
| [13:39:00] | Hoxzer: | can somebody tell me how do I play divx or xvid files with mythtv? |
| [13:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | install and configure MythVideo |
| [13:39:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [13:41:00] | Hoxzer: | GreyFoxx: I think I already have it? |
| [13:41:00] | Hoxzer: | does it come with mythplugins? |
| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes |
| [13:41:00] | Jasper: | laga I have a complete manual on how to do it.. |
| [13:41:00] | Hoxzer: | ok, how do I tell it what folder contains videos? |
| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | So go into setup, configure it with where you store your videos, configure the player |
| [13:41:00] | Jasper: | it just doesn't work...and I don't have another firewire device to test if it's the system or the ipod |
| [13:41:00] | Jasper: | but I have 2 ipod's doing the same |
| [13:41:00] | Hoxzer: | I tried to go "media settings -> video settings" |
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| [13:45:00] | xinit: | hmpf |
| [13:45:00] | xinit: | NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp: In member function 'void NuppelVideoRecorder::WriteAudio(unsigned char*, int, int)': |
| [13:45:00] | xinit: | NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:3188: error: 'lame_encode_flush_nogap' was not declared in this scope |
| [13:46:00] | xinit: | anyone ever had this error while compiling? |
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| [13:47:00] | Hoxzer: | GreyFoxx: could you tell me exactly where to go to enable divx/xvid support |
| [13:47:00] | Hoxzer: | I have my file in /home/mythtv/movies |
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| [13:53:00] | xinit: | argh |
| [13:54:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: mythvideo is basically just a frontend for mplayer and the like, you don't need to enable anything |
| [13:55:00] | Hoxzer: | Laga: ok... how do I configure it? |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | read the manual |
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| [13:55:00] | Brov: | How do I create a script that issues commands that require root access that user=mythtv can run. Maybe make it so user mythtv can only run it but not view it if i need to chnage to root within script |
| [13:55:00] | Hoxzer: | .... |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | Brov: maybe with sudo |
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| [14:00:00] | nuxil: | hello gents |
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| [14:01:00] | nuxil: | how is mythtv compared to freevo ? |
| [14:01:00] | sphing: | about 50 pounds heavier but 3 inches taller |
| [14:01:00] | nuxil: | lol |
| [14:02:00] | nuxil: | you know what freevo is? |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | mythtv is more sophisticated |
| [14:02:00] | sphing: | heard of it |
| [14:02:00] | sphing: | laga... do you sleep? |
| [14:02:00] | nuxil: | so its more complex. im having freevo installed |
| [14:03:00] | nuxil: | i have a Q for mythrv.. you see.. i got this pvr500 card.. is it posseble to record and watch tv at the same time with mythtv |
| [14:03:00] | laga: | sphing: barely |
| [14:03:00] | nuxil: | the pvr 500 got 2 tuners |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | nuxil: yeah. you can even do that with only one tuner. (if it's the same channel ;)) |
| [14:04:00] | nuxil: | oh.. nice |
| [14:05:00] | nuxil: | so it supports ivtv good then |
| [14:05:00] | nuxil: | that is a no can do in current feevo.. |
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| [14:07:00] | nuxil: | laga, how about that xml stuff. you see.. im from norway and i need to put the tvguide in a xml file. is it possenle to fill the database from that file.. if you know what i mean. |
| [14:07:00] | laga: | really? i thought they had ivtv support back then when i was lookign at it..like 2 years ago |
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| [14:07:00] | mace: | is there a guide to getting mythtv running without the overhead of kde or gnome? i've got it setup to autostart from inittab but the fonts are a bit too big so often you can't read the dates/times on recordings..? |
| [14:07:00] | laga: | nuxil: i know what you mean and it's perfectly possible to do that. |
| [14:07:00] | nuxil: | laga i know nothing about mythtv |
| [14:08:00] | nuxil: | :) nice |
| [14:08:00] | laga: | mace: umm, tried startx — -dpi 100? |
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| [14:08:00] | Hoxzer: | laga: Myth doc's dont have so comprehensive manual for mythvideos |
| [14:08:00] | nuxil: | 1 more Q.. do i need to be that use mythtv or can i grant some premission in mysql for other users? |
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| [14:08:00] | nuxil: | *user |
| [14:08:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: find out for yourself and update them then, it's easy |
| [14:09:00] | laga: | nuxil: you can use whatever sql user you want ;) |
| [14:09:00] | sphing: | mace: you're just using the xserver? |
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| [14:09:00] | mace: | laga: nope not tried that |
| [14:09:00] | mace: | sphing: pretty much aye |
| [14:09:00] | nuxil: | nice :) sonds better and better |
| [14:09:00] | sphing: | mm... sounds like a good idea for my xbox |
| [14:09:00] | Hoxzer: | laga: and video management should find .avi files? |
| [14:10:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: yep. |
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| [14:10:00] | Hoxzer: | eh |
| [14:12:00] | Hoxzer: | LOL |
| [14:12:00] | Hoxzer: | my path was: /home/mythv/movies |
| [14:12:00] | Hoxzer: | ok, now it works |
| [14:12:00] | ** laga sighs ** | |
| [14:13:00] | ** jchome sighs too. ** | |
| [14:14:00] | jchome: | i need a second tuner ;-] |
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| [14:17:00] | sphing: | mace: how do you start X automatically... |
| [14:18:00] | mace: | sphing: i've modified /etc/inittab to do an automatic login as mythtv, then modified ~mythtv/.bashrc to call startx, then also created an ~mythtv/.xinitrc file that starts up vnc, myth etc |
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| [14:19:00] | mace: | sphing: :) |
| [14:19:00] | sphing: | mace: I found it, I had my xbox automatically login and fire up xfce4, but I couldnt remember how I did it |
| [14:19:00] | Freman: | heya, is there anyway to make mythtv on one "source" record like 30 minutes before/after, but on another source not? |
| [14:19:00] | sphing: | I want to try running myth from regular X |
| [14:20:00] | Freman: | ie: I have two digital tuners on the same source, unfortunatly tv in this country sux and the shows can be WAY off time, but because I have 2 tuners, and very few channels I'd like it to try to cover up to 30 minutes either way |
| [14:20:00] | Freman: | the other source is my analog tuner and it's recording pay tv, which is relativly accurate, and 10 minutes either side covers it |
| [14:20:00] | mace: | sphing: trouble is there are lots of different ways to do autostartup |
| [14:20:00] | sphing: | mace: I found it... it was in my .bash_profile instead of rc |
| [14:21:00] | mace: | ah right |
| [14:21:00] | sphing: | mace: startx — -dpi 100 ? |
| [14:21:00] | Freman: | RE autologin: one way is to use mgetty in your inittab to log into the user, then in the .bash_profile launch X, in .xinitrc launch mythtv |
| [14:22:00] | xinit: | anyone running mythtv 0.19 on ubuntu drapper? |
| [14:23:00] | mace: | sphing: not tried it yet, i'm having problems with festival/mythphone crashing |
| [14:25:00] | sphing: | mace: yea that works |
| [14:25:00] | sphing: | laga: nice with the dpi 100 |
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| [14:26:00] | mace: | dpi 100 doesn't help for me |
| [14:26:00] | mace: | in the media library menu "Watch recordings" gets truncated to just "Watch" |
| [14:26:00] | sphing: | mace; you can adjust fonts in mythtv |
| [14:27:00] | mace: | pretty sure i've tried that |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | and you did startx — -dpi |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | even with the -- |
| [14:27:00] | mace: | aye |
| [14:27:00] | Juski: | mace: you probably don't have a necessary font installed |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | hmm... check the X server logs for fonts |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | yea |
| [14:27:00] | mace: | ok will check that |
| [14:27:00] | mace: | ta |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | mythtv substitutes one in place – which might not suit the theme |
| [14:28:00] | mace: | ah right |
| [14:28:00] | mace: | do i want 75 or 100 dpi? |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | anyway.. afk |
| [14:29:00] | mace: | or is it ymmv? |
| [14:29:00] | sphing: | ymmv |
| [14:29:00] | mace: | ok |
| [14:29:00] | sphing: | 100 is REALLY small from my couch |
| [14:30:00] | sphing: | let met try dpi 100 on my laptop... brb |
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| [14:34:00] | sphing: | how did I live without dpi 100 |
| [14:35:00] | mace: | aha |
| [14:35:00] | mace: | 75dpi works for me |
| [14:35:00] | mace: | but 100 gives truncated names |
| [14:37:00] | xinit: | damn.. I just violated the topic |
| [14:37:00] | mace: | ? |
| [14:37:00] | xinit: | had an old lame.h lying around in /usr/local |
| [14:37:00] | xinit: | mace: "Please don't be a dumbass!" |
| [14:37:00] | mace: | nice |
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| [14:48:00] | xinit: | argh.. |
| [14:48:00] | xinit: | when I want to setup mythtv, I get a segfault |
| [14:51:00] | xinit: | damnit |
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| [14:52:00] | laga: | ? |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | logs! |
| [14:53:00] | xinit: | laga: hold on |
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| [14:55:00] | xinit: | http://pastebin.ca/43220 |
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| [14:57:00] | Syphn: | damit ... can anyone tell me howto turn the beep off, when i use TAB key in Konsole? |
| [14:57:00] | xinit: | laga: http://pastebin.ca/43221 |
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| [15:02:00] | briand: | Syphn: Settings|Bell |
| [15:02:00] | sillysally: | anyone good fixing partition issues? |
| [15:03:00] | laga: | xinit: umm, that's weird. you running 0.19? |
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| [15:04:00] | xinit: | laga: yes |
| [15:04:00] | laga: | umm. compiled from scratch? |
| [15:04:00] | xinit: | using debian pacakges.. also built them myself, but same error |
| [15:04:00] | xinit: | both |
| [15:04:00] | laga: | when you built them yourself, did you remove the debian packages before installing? |
| [15:04:00] | xinit: | ofcourse |
| [15:05:00] | laga: | umm, that sucks. try to get a backtrace and submit to trac – see the mythtv howto for further information |
| [15:06:00] | xinit: | let's try my own compiled stuff again |
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| [15:12:00] | xinit: | mhh.. |
| [15:13:00] | xinit: | laga: mythtv-setup says that I need to run something from /etc/cron.daily, but it's not there.. |
| [15:13:00] | xinit: | what should I run? |
| [15:13:00] | Kel-kippin: | for anyone that uses Breezy.. just found this..running it now seems to be quite quick and handy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563 |
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| [15:17:00] | xinit: | mh |
| [15:18:00] | xinit: | I put the mc.sql in, but mythtv-setup complains that there is nothing in the database |
| [15:19:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [15:19:00] | Jasper: | laga I found out that eth1394 is fucking up my stuff |
| [15:19:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:21:00] | sphing: | xinit: did you run mythfill |
| [15:22:00] | Juski: | nothing like a visit to a DIY supermarket when you're not in the mood... |
| [15:23:00] | sphing: | haha... wtf? |
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| [15:23:00] | xinit: | sphing: I'm trying to run the setup program first |
| [15:23:00] | xinit: | but that fails |
| [15:23:00] | sphing: | mythtv-setup? |
| [15:23:00] | nuxil: | i just got mythtv installed. im currently comfiguring it. now im woundring about callsign is that the name from xml fil "channel id" ? |
| [15:24:00] | Kelerion: | DIY supermarket? B&Q? |
| [15:24:00] | nuxil: | i must do tv_grab_no --days 1 > /mythtv/TV.xml |
| [15:24:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: aye.. B&Q... |
| [15:25:00] | Kelerion: | at least it isn't homebase.. I really do not like that place.. lol |
| [15:25:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [15:25:00] | nuxil: | anyone..? |
| [15:25:00] | Kelerion: | Juski, did you see my post a few minutes ago? |
| [15:25:00] | sphing: | nuxil: you need to create the tables in the db... have you done that? |
| [15:25:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: yeh... interesting |
| [15:25:00] | nuxil: | cos in the xml file i see etc : <channel id="1.fredag.dagbladet.no"> |
| [15:25:00] | xinit: | sphing: mythfilldatabase: 2006-02–26 16:23:01.102 There are no channel sources defined, did you run the setup program? |
| [15:25:00] | nuxil: | sphing yes |
| [15:25:00] | sphing: | nuxil: sorry that was for xinit |
| [15:26:00] | Kelerion: | running it now.. it's like an automated ubuntuguide.org but with a few more handy things.. |
| [15:26:00] | nuxil: | so would that be callsign 1.fredag.dagbladet.no |
| [15:26:00] | nuxil: | for etc channel E5 |
| [15:26:00] | Kelerion: | I found it while trying to find a workaround for installing skype on ubuntu |
| [15:26:00] | sphing: | xinit: you shouldn't be running mythfilldb if you havent run mythtv-setup |
| [15:27:00] | nuxil: | im reading this http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html |
| [15:27:00] | xinit: | sphing: I can't run mythtv-setup because it segfaults |
| [15:27:00] | nuxil: | but i cant see anything about the callsing in the channel editor |
| [15:27:00] | sphing: | xinit: you got a problem. |
| [15:27:00] | nuxil: | i the howto |
| [15:27:00] | Juski: | haven't used Skype in ages. none of my mates will install it since they're all MSN lovers |
| [15:27:00] | xinit: | sphing: I know.. |
| [15:28:00] | xinit: | sphing: can't seem to figure out why it segfaults |
| [15:28:00] | xinit: | the setup starts, but segfaults when I choose one of the 5 options |
| [15:28:00] | nuxil: | xinit, compiled with worng arch? |
| [15:28:00] | Kelerion: | a few of my customers love it.. one in particular has customers *all* over the world.. and he refuses to deal with them unless they install skype.. and I speak to him for about an hour a day nearly every day.. has saved me a bomb |
| [15:29:00] | xinit: | nuxil: using the debian packages right now |
| [15:29:00] | nuxil: | oh.. sarge? |
| [15:29:00] | xinit: | nuxil: and I recompiled those whith my own settings |
| [15:29:00] | xinit: | no |
| [15:29:00] | nuxil: | i did try that pkg didnt work so i did svn |
| [15:29:00] | xinit: | ubuntu dapper |
| [15:29:00] | nuxil: | oh use the svn |
| [15:30:00] | xinit: | let's try that |
| [15:30:00] | nuxil: | Guys Callsign? what to put there? |
| [15:30:00] | sphing: | xinit: it was a binary package? |
| [15:30:00] | xinit: | sphing: no.. I rebuild the package |
| [15:31:00] | Juski: | bah. how the hell have I got channels in my guide I don't want? not dvb-t ones either |
| [15:31:00] | xinit: | so I think that is not the problem.. some lib or something breaks |
| [15:31:00] | sphing: | hmm... try compiling svn like nuxil said |
| [15:31:00] | nuxil: | shall i use the name from the xml file for the current channel cos i need to use filldtabase --file TV-xml |
| [15:32:00] | nuxil: | erm. |
| [15:32:00] | nuxil: | xinit, im using debian sarge and i just did a fresh install of mythtv using the svn,, it works fine.. |
| [15:33:00] | nuxil: | just takes 15 min to compile... depends on your hw |
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| [15:34:00] | xinit: | nuxil: how do I get the svn? |
| [15:34:00] | nuxil: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html |
| [15:34:00] | Juski: | http://pastebin.com/573284 |
| [15:34:00] | Jasper: | wow this is extreme weirdom |
| [15:34:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:35:00] | xinit: | thnx |
| [15:35:00] | nuxil: | :P |
| [15:36:00] | Jasper: | how can my firewire fuck up my network? |
| [15:36:00] | nuxil: | easy.. it it tryed to set it on fire :P |
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| [15:37:00] | Jasper: | :p; |
| [15:37:00] | Jasper: | if I have a device in my firewire |
| [15:37:00] | Jasper: | my network stops functioning |
| [15:37:00] | Jasper: | that's not cool 8) |
| [15:39:00] | nuxil: | chech the logs in var |
| [15:39:00] | nuxil: | *check |
| [15:42:00] | AlienBaby: | is there a stable version of ivtv? .4.2 lock up my .19 pvr 350 box when mythfrontend is up for more than 8 hours.. |
| [15:44:00] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Anyone here with a Via Epia (Sp-13000) and a PVR-500 board who actually got it working? :/ |
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| [15:56:00] | Kelerion: | Juski, you ever come across an issue when gnome stops letting apps dock themselves to the status/task bar? ie gaim, update-notifier etc? they just appear as mini-windows instead? |
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| [15:59:00] | Jasper: | weeee |
| [15:59:00] | Jasper: | got my firewire to work |
| [15:59:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:59:00] | Zzeiss: | OK, two problems... |
| [15:59:00] | Jasper: | problem was the modules got loaded before the network devices...causing firewire to fail...without any errors |
| [15:59:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:00:00] | Zzeiss: | Both of my own making, as I had an (old, but working) Gentoo Myth box working; I did an "emerge --update world" and it all went to heck. |
| [16:01:00] | Zzeiss: | Problem 1: with the backend: it's trying to open a lockfile that looks like this: |
| [16:02:00] | Zzeiss: | 0/nfslockfile.lock: No such file or directory |
| [16:03:00] | Zzeiss: | Problem 1 can be "worked around" by creating a directory "0" in root... but I'm not sure if that's just going to cause me more problems later. |
| [16:03:00] | Zzeiss: | So, anyone have a clue where the nfslock gets defined? |
| [16:04:00] | Zzeiss: | Well, second problem, maybe related, maybe not... I do a "startx", everything's fine. Keyboard works, mouse works. |
| [16:06:00] | Zzeiss: | Then I do a "mythfrontend"- and the screen does the "prescaling" thing, then it paints the menu, then it locks up hard. Nothing works (no kb, no mouse) until I hit ctrl-alt-backspace and kill off X windows completely |
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| [16:06:00] | Zzeiss: | Any hints there? |
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| [16:13:00] | socpeuk: | what hardware is this on |
| [16:14:00] | socpeuk: | what soft options are you using |
| [16:14:00] | socpeuk: | xvmc for instance? |
| [16:14:00] | socpeuk: | all of this makes a hue diference |
| [16:14:00] | Zzeiss: | socpeuk: This is on an Athlon 2400+ |
| [16:15:00] | Zzeiss: | and no idea what an "xvmc" is... |
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| [16:15:00] | Kelerion: | thats better.. got my systray back.. lol |
| [16:15:00] | Zzeiss: | no soft options specified either. This is strictly a "emerge --update world" . |
| [16:16:00] | socpeuk: | ok |
| [16:16:00] | Kelerion: | scopeuk – you spelt yer nick wrong :P |
| [16:16:00] | Zzeiss: | socpeuk: though somehow I don't think I fully understand the question.... and which problem are you thinking of? |
| [16:16:00] | socpeuk: | are you sure its locked and nto jsut beign slow? |
| [16:16:00] | socpeuk: | buigger thanks Kelerion |
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| [16:16:00] | Kelerion: | welcome :) |
| [16:17:00] | Zzeiss: | socpeuk: Pretty sure. I will give it another whirl. But the lockfile issue is wierd too. |
| [16:18:00] | Zzeiss: | socpeuk: ten seconds, no response. |
| [16:18:00] | scopeuk: | Zzeiss ok and im not sure on a particular issue but the more information the better |
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| [16:19:00] | Zzeiss: | scopeuk: thirty seconds... (the suspicious thing is that ctrl-alt-backspace *does* still work. Weird, eh?) |
| [16:19:00] | Zzeiss: | and the machine isn't wedged; I can still do all sorts of things via ssh connections. |
| [16:20:00] | Zzeiss: | top shows the machine is essentially idle. |
| [16:20:00] | scopeuk: | hmm |
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| [16:20:00] | scopeuk: | and seg faults ect in the logs? |
| [16:20:00] | scopeuk: | have you tried changing the skin maby |
| [16:20:00] | Zzeiss: | and ... aha... an errror " QDate::setYMD: Invalid date 2006-22–23 " from mythbackend. |
| [16:21:00] | Zzeiss: | Nope- it is not waking up with my old skin. |
| [16:21:00] | Zzeiss: | But sadly, the same pseudo-lockup happens when I try to run mythtv-setup |
| [16:21:00] | Zzeiss: | sixty seconds. Still no response. |
| [16:21:00] | scopeuk: | humm |
| [16:22:00] | scopeuk: | have you tried reconffiguring the device for remote front ends |
| [16:22:00] | scopeuk: | then usign something liek knoppmyth |
| [16:22:00] | Zzeiss: | What ho! ctrl-alt-backspace, then restarting X, then trying mythtv-setup DOES look at the kb! |
| [16:22:00] | Zzeiss: | at least on a warning "backend is running" |
| [16:23:00] | Zzeiss: | The arrows worked. Heh... |
| [16:23:00] | Zzeiss: | Now I'm in setup... and frozen. |
| [16:24:00] | Zzeiss: | and no, no remote front ends. |
| [16:24:00] | Zzeiss: | The only slightly wierd thing on this machine is I want to put in multiple tuner cards. |
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| [16:24:00] | Zzeiss: | but I couldn't get that going so tuner #2 is not plugged into the chassis. |
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| [16:29:00] | Zzeiss: | Further data – killing off the backend, and restarting mythtv-setup doesn't get the "backend is running" message, but again goes into the pseudo-lockup (nothing works except ctrl-alt-backspace) |
| [16:32:00] | Zzeiss: | Anyone else see any problems like this? |
| [16:35:00] | sphing: | Zzeiss: is this from source? |
| [16:36:00] | Zzeiss: | Yes. This is a Gentoo "emerge --sync" "emerge --upgrade world". |
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| [16:36:00] | sphing: | someone else earlier was saying setup was locking up on them |
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| [16:36:00] | Zzeiss: | version 0.19.20060121–2 |
| [16:37:00] | Zzeiss: | Ewww... in other words we have a bug in v. 19? |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | Zzeiss: try the fixes branch of the svn |
| [16:37:00] | Zzeiss: | sphing: ouch.... I've never done that. |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | every used cvs? |
| [16:37:00] | Zzeiss: | nope. |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | emerge svn |
| [16:38:00] | sphing: | then used it to download the sources... |
| [16:38:00] | Zzeiss: | I was once a Windows programmer. ClearCase lost things for me. I swore off CVSen ever since. Gimme flat files. |
| [16:38:00] | Zzeiss: | can you walk me thru it? |
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| [16:38:00] | Zzeiss: | I am emerging svn now |
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| [16:39:00] | sphing: | i'm a cvs guy... but I'll do my best |
| [16:39:00] | Zzeiss: | er, no. "there are no ebuilds to satisfy "svn" |
| [16:40:00] | Zzeiss: | lemme emerge sync first, see if there are any new fixes in the pipe |
| [16:40:00] | sphing: | Zzeiss: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 |
| [16:40:00] | sphing: | o sorry i think its emerge subversion |
| [16:41:00] | Zzeiss: | sphing: Got it. I'll run that through. |
| [16:43:00] | Zzeiss: | well, nothing out of date. |
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| [16:45:00] | Zzeiss: | Hmmm... I wonder – is the front end by any chance written in perl? |
| [16:45:00] | sphing: | with file extensions like cpp... i'm gonna go with no |
| [16:46:00] | foobum: | anyone running mythfrontend on OS X here? |
| [16:46:00] | Zzeiss: | OK... that's probably not it. But the cpp upgrade procedure was wierd. |
| [16:46:00] | Zzeiss: | I am not sure that it actually is using the latest-n-greatest gcc |
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| [16:47:00] | sphing: | ... shouldn't matter |
| [16:48:00] | Blerghass: | This topic has been visited over and over, but a lot of the threads are old. What would you recommend for a cheap, decent quality sdtv out video card? I was thinking an fx5200. |
| [16:49:00] | Jasper: | haha |
| [16:52:00] | Blerghass: | what |
| [16:53:00] | nasa: | Blerghass: fx5200 still is the standard ($30-$50 on newegg.com) |
| [16:53:00] | Blerghass: | thanks. |
| [16:53:00] | nasa: | np |
| [16:54:00] | Blerghass: | Is there any way I can tell if one manufacturer's TV out is better than another's? |
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| [17:02:00] | Blerghass: | http://tvtool.info/index_e.htm is of help, if anybody else cares |
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| [17:07:00] | Brov: | Does anyone know why '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' closes but DOESN'T restart when run as root in an xterm window? |
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| [17:11:00] | Cardoe: | Brov: because you already have an X server running? |
| [17:12:00] | Brov: | yer I wanna restart it |
| [17:12:00] | Brov: | BUT from xterm |
| [17:15:00] | Brov: | I've got a script that modifies XF86Config so then needs to restart x to load the changes. script works fine from console BUT not when called from x |
| [17:20:00] | xinit: | daaaamn.. |
| [17:20:00] | xinit: | compiled mythtv from svn and mythtv-setup still segfaults |
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| [17:24:00] | xinit: | aaah |
| [17:25:00] | sphing: | xinit |
| [17:25:00] | Hoxzer: | guys guys |
| [17:25:00] | sphing: | you might want to go to -dev |
| [17:25:00] | sphing: | and chat them up |
| [17:25:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I actually play those file in "play video" menu :P |
| [17:25:00] | xinit: | aaaaah |
| [17:25:00] | xinit: | got it! |
| [17:25:00] | Hoxzer: | I tried to click "space" |
| [17:26:00] | Hoxzer: | but it only shows information about the movie |
| [17:26:00] | xinit: | some old libGLU from transgaming was fucking things up |
| [17:26:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer: I have no idea what youre talking about |
| [17:26:00] | sphing: | xinit: |
| [17:26:00] | sphing: | ah |
| [17:27:00] | Hoxzer: | sphing: there is "Play video" menu under "media libary" menu |
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| [17:27:00] | Hoxzer: | I see two files there but when I click one it only shows information about the file but the player wont start |
| [17:28:00] | Hoxzer: | I just dunno how to start the player |
| [17:31:00] | Hoxzer: | ok, I found it out |
| [17:31:00] | Hoxzer: | need to edit lircc file again :D |
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| [17:37:00] | xinit: | config file /home/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_nl.conf does not exist, run me with --configure |
| [17:37:00] | xinit: | run what with --configure? |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | tv_grab_nl |
| [17:38:00] | Kelerion: | tv_grab_nl |
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| [17:38:00] | laga: | tv_grab_nl --configure --configfile /home/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_nl.conf |
| [17:38:00] | Kelerion: | smart-ass :P |
| [17:38:00] | laga: | heh ;) |
| [17:39:00] | nuxil: | laga sourceid whats that? |
| [17:39:00] | nuxil: | like mythfilldatabase --file <sourceid> <offset> <xmlfile> |
| [17:40:00] | laga: | the internal id of your videosource |
| [17:40:00] | CoolerQ: | does anyone know where I can find the statements to create the SQL tables? I just upgraded to 0.19 and my tables are very screwed up |
| [17:40:00] | nuxil: | laga ok.. and callsign whats thet? the channel id in the xml file for the channel? |
| [17:40:00] | laga: | echo "select * from videosource;" | mysql -u <user> -p<pass> mythconverg (no space!) <- nuxil |
| [17:40:00] | CoolerQ: | channum is a varchar(1), for instance, which is causing all sorts of problems |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | nuxil: callsign is just how you wanna call that channel |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | CoolerQ: i believe it's in the source :/ |
| [17:41:00] | CoolerQ: | laga: thanks, where? :P |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | CoolerQ: no clue, sorry. i still prefer terry pratchett over c++ code ;) |
| [17:41:00] | nuxil: | how so how does it know what channles is for what in the xml file? |
| [17:42:00] | nuxil: | it needs a refreance |
| [17:42:00] | Kelerion: | hey.. am a pratchett fan too :) |
| [17:42:00] | Kelerion: | not read any for about a year though |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | Kelerion: i've just finished 'sourcery', i have to do a school report on it ;) |
| [17:42:00] | ** Kelerion goes to check waterstones ** | |
| [17:43:00] | laga: | nuxil: please elaborate |
| [17:43:00] | Kelerion: | a school report on a pratchett book??? lucky git |
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| [17:43:00] | laga: | Kelerion: heh. it's for my english class ;) |
| [17:44:00] | Kelerion: | hey.. there's been a couple of new books since I last read any |
| [17:44:00] | ** Kelerion hits amazon to order them ** | |
| [17:44:00] | laga: | heh |
| [17:45:00] | nuxil: | laga the xml file is full of <channel id="somenames"> one for each channel i confgured with tv_grab_no.. some names are weird tho. so im woundring how can the database know what is for what if you know waht i mean,, it needs a referance,, thats why i was woundring if callsign was it |
| [17:45:00] | Kelerion: | going on holiday in a few weeks.. so I'll have something to read :) |
| [17:45:00] | Zzeiss: | CoolerQ: Are you getting the "nfslockfile" problem too? Or perhaps even the "QDate::setYMD: Invalid date 2006-22–18" problem? |
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| [17:45:00] | Zzeiss: | CoolerQ: are you getting the "nfslockfile" problem? Or even the "QDate::setYMD: Invalid date 2006-22–18" problem? |
| [17:46:00] | Zzeiss: | (sorry for the dupe... fat fingers) |
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| [17:46:00] | laga: | nuxil: hehe. no :) channel id from the xml file gets mapped to the channel frequency and stuff in mythtv. mythfilldatabase --manual basically parses the xml file so it alreadys knows the channel id (i believe the mythtv therm is 'xmltv id') |
| [17:47:00] | nuxil: | ahh,, so i need to run it manualy first |
| [17:47:00] | nuxil: | i was using the -file option |
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| [17:53:00] | ** Kelerion tries to figure out why his transcode jobs have stopped working ** | |
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| [17:55:00] | nuxil: | laga, i need some more help of you |
| [17:55:00] | nuxil: | im running it manual now |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | Kelerion: i believe there was a ticket regarding such an issue in trac.. |
| [17:55:00] | nuxil: | it says |
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| [17:55:00] | nuxil: | Choose a channel ID (positive integer) [0] |
| [17:55:00] | nuxil: | so what to put there? |
| [17:55:00] | nuxil: | anything? |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | anything you want :) |
| [17:56:00] | nuxil: | dies it need to be a number? |
| [17:56:00] | nuxil: | *doeszx |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | postivie integer |
| [17:56:00] | nuxil: | dont say anything i want then :P |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | 1+ ;) |
| [17:56:00] | nuxil: | ahh 1.test etc? |
| [17:56:00] | nuxil: | or 1 test |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | no |
| [17:56:00] | nuxil: | just 1 |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | '1'. it's kind of like the numbers your button ;) |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | err |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | on your remote |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | i'm watching southpark, that's why i may type weird stuff ;) |
| [17:57:00] | nuxil: | lol |
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| [17:58:00] | nuxil: | so next channel would be 2 |
| [17:58:00] | Kelerion: | well.. I know why it isn't working.. can't find any trac entry about it though.. am using mythrename.. and it ain't putting quotes around the "file open" when trying to transcode |
| [17:58:00] | nuxil: | have i got tha right now? |
| [17:58:00] | Kelerion: | I think there's an option in mythrename to use _'s instead.. that should fix it |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | yeah, why not? mythfilldatabase --preset fills in some presets, i believe. it's been a long time.. ;) |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | nuxil: hehe |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | Kelerion: how's mythrename related to mythtranscode? |
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| [18:00:00] | Kelerion: | transcode opens the file.. "my file name etc.mpg" after mythrename has renamed the file from 1024_123412341234.mpg |
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| [18:00:00] | laga: | Kelerion: wow, that's weird. that shouldn't happen. |
| [18:01:00] | Kelerion: | I mean I have mythrename running every hour.. and I set transcode to when I want a film transcoded |
| [18:01:00] | Kelerion: | I didn't mean one launches the other |
| [18:02:00] | laga: | yeah, i know. but mythtransode should still be able to handle filenames with spaces |
| [18:02:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. I'd have thought so |
| [18:02:00] | laga: | file a bug! ;) |
| [18:02:00] | Kelerion: | but the default filenames don't have them.. so suppose it's not a common problem |
| [18:03:00] | nuxil: | laga, so is it good to have channel ID & channel number as the same number? |
| [18:03:00] | laga: | nuxil: oh. now that you mention that there are two settings... channel id ist probably just for internal purposes |
| [18:04:00] | nuxil: | ? |
| [18:04:00] | nuxil: | im confused |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | nuxil: you know, how mythtv handles channels internally ;) |
| [18:04:00] | Kelerion: | laga.. I don't think thats the problem.. using underscores and it's still failing on the open.. |
| [18:04:00] | nuxil: | ok.. let me star over again.. |
| [18:04:00] | ** Kelerion digs further ** | |
| [18:05:00] | nuxil: | so what shall i use for channel ID should i do 1++ for the channels? |
| [18:05:00] | nuxil: | 1 2 3 4 5 and so on? |
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| [18:06:00] | laga: | yeah, sounds good |
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| [18:06:00] | nuxil: | so i could do that i first did.. |
| [18:06:00] | nuxil: | have channel ID & channel number as the same number |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | nuxil: hehe, sorry for cuasing confusion ;) |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | causing* |
| [18:07:00] | nuxil: | np. |
| [18:08:00] | ** nuxil continues configuring ** | |
| [18:09:00] | Kelerion: | laga: http://pastebin.com/573544 |
| [18:09:00] | Kelerion: | wierd |
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| [18:10:00] | Kelerion: | and that file is definately there |
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| [18:11:00] | Zzeiss: | Hurm... so eventually, it *does* lock up solid. ctrl-alt-backspace does not get out. |
| [18:11:00] | sphing: | Kelerion: perms? |
| [18:12:00] | sphing: | you've probably tried it |
| [18:12:00] | Kelerion: | ahhh.. I know what it is |
| [18:12:00] | sphing: | ... ? |
| [18:12:00] | Kelerion: | mythtranscode is trying to deduce channel and starttimes from the filename |
| [18:13:00] | laga: | Kelerion: how do you call mythtranscode? |
| [18:14:00] | laga: | oh, a pastebin |
| [18:14:00] | Kelerion: | I just tried it manually too: http://pastebin.com/573557 |
| [18:14:00] | laga: | umm, ok. Kelerion: how do you execute mythtranscode? |
| [18:15:00] | sphing: | Kelerion: Manonfile |
| [18:15:00] | sphing: | nice |
| [18:15:00] | Kelerion: | that doesn't matter.. just an output filename |
| [18:16:00] | sphing: | haha yea i kno |
| [18:16:00] | laga: | that shouldn't happen. FYI, mythtranscode --mpeg2 --honorcutlist will not work since the mpeg2 transcoder doesn't pull the cutlist from the database when you use with --infile |
| [18:16:00] | Kelerion: | ah |
| [18:17:00] | laga: | does it happen if you remove the date etc from the filename? maybe there's some weird guessing logic in there |
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| [18:18:00] | Kelerion: | ah crap.. that means I can't use my cutlists now then |
| [18:19:00] | ** Kelerion shouldn't have use mythrename ** | |
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| [18:23:00] | laga: | mythrename should have some kind of backup mechanism. i fscked up my database really good when it was messing with symlinks ;) (which is fixed now) |
| [18:23:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. no mythrename undo |
| [18:23:00] | nuxil: | hmm this is really confusing |
| [18:24:00] | nuxil: | laga, insted of running -manual cant i just use a file? |
| [18:24:00] | Kelerion: | it's ok.. nuxexport can still use the cutlist.. so using that to transcode them |
| [18:24:00] | laga: | nuxil: nope. |
| [18:24:00] | nuxil: | so i need to run it |
| [18:24:00] | nuxil: | manualy. damn |
| [18:24:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [18:24:00] | laga: | hehe :) |
| [18:24:00] | laga: | there is another possibility |
| [18:24:00] | nuxil: | oh tell me about it |
| [18:25:00] | laga: | do a channel scan in mythtv-setup and assign the xmltv ids to the correct channels then |
| [18:25:00] | nuxil: | are xmltv ids the channel id from xml? |
| [18:26:00] | laga: | yep |
| [18:26:00] | nuxil: | like <channel id="1.fredag.dagbladet.no"> |
| [18:26:00] | nuxil: | <display-name>NRK 1</display-name> |
| [18:26:00] | nuxil: | </channel> |
| [18:26:00] | laga: | right. |
| [18:26:00] | nuxil: | i see |
| [18:27:00] | nuxil: | so i just run filldatabase with no parameters after that? |
| [18:27:00] | nuxil: | *mythfill.. |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [18:28:00] | nuxil: | ok,, lets see how that goes :) |
| [18:28:00] | Kelerion: | ok – not all knackered then.. nuvexport-mpeg2cut works even when the file name isn't based on channel/time |
| [18:29:00] | Kelerion: | and is only taken 7 minutes per film.. so thats handy |
| [18:30:00] | Kelerion: | umm .might take longer.. I think that 7 mins is only for indexing it first |
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| [18:38:00] | xinit: | is it possible to play my recorded programs with xbmc on my xbox? |
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| [18:42:00] | zooted: | Hello all, does anyone here know how to setup 2 capture cards using the same channels? I need to be able to choose a specific card for certain channels and there seems to be no intuitive way to choose which card is used for a recording. I am using .19. |
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| [18:44:00] | zooted: | More specifically, I am using a PVR-350 and a firewire point-to-point link to an RCN PVR cable box. |
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| [18:48:00] | Santzes: | Hi! I changed my password at mysql. How can I tell my new password to mythtv? |
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| [18:48:00] | scopeuk: | its in setigns on front end |
| [18:51:00] | Santzes: | oh, there |
| [18:52:00] | Santzes: | thank you |
| [18:52:00] | eiggirC: | Santzes: yeah – mythweb needs to know the password too |
| [18:52:00] | eiggirC: | if you use it |
| [18:52:00] | Santzes: | ok |
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| [18:57:00] | eiggirC: | what's debian up to with mythtv packages at the moment? |
| [18:57:00] | eiggirC: | do they have working ones? |
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| [18:59:00] | scopeuk: | it dident liek ti last time i tierd althoguh i belvie it was pebkac |
| [18:59:00] | eiggirC: | hmmmm |
| [19:00:00] | eiggirC: | does mythtv 0.19 use mysql 5 okay? |
| [19:00:00] | scopeuk: | yes sosedl |
| [19:01:00] | scopeuk: | althoguh .19 isent on debian stable |
| [19:01:00] | eiggirC: | who tracks stable? |
| [19:01:00] | eiggirC: | ahh I see – testing's version is Version: 0.18.1–5 |
| [19:01:00] | eiggirC: | so its not 0.19 |
| [19:03:00] | eiggirC: | later all – thanks for the advice scopeuk |
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| [19:08:00] | Dibblah_: | Why can't NDS just release a bleeding CAM? Argh. |
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| [19:16:00] | techgeek_us: | How do I determine which sound system I am using? |
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| [19:17:00] | laga: | alsa drivers are usually prefixed with snd_ or snd-. check 'lsmod' |
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| [19:18:00] | techgeek_us: | laga, thanks, it would appear that I am indeed using Alsa (that's what I thought). Is there something special I have to do to allow two sound sources to play simultaneously? |
| [19:18:00] | laga: | techgeek_us: i believe you need to read up on the alsa dmix plugin |
| [19:19:00] | techgeek_us: | ala: thanks, I shall do that |
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| [19:25:00] | xinit: | my program guide doesn't show anything, although xmltv grabbed a lot of stuff.. |
| [19:25:00] | xinit: | what do I do wrong? |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | did you connect your video source to your capture card in the 'input connections' screen in mythtv-setup? |
| [19:25:00] | xinit: | yes\ |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | umm. |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | your channels, are they associated with the epg for the concerned channel via the xmltv id? |
| [19:26:00] | nasa: | Anybody using ratpoison and if so what version? |
| [19:26:00] | xinit: | laga: mhh.. probably not.. |
| [19:27:00] | xinit: | i need to fill in everything by hand, as it seems |
| [19:27:00] | nuxil: | nasa why you need a simple wm |
| [19:27:00] | laga: | xinit: check the channel editor in mythtv-setup |
| [19:27:00] | xinit: | or is there a beter/faster way? |
| [19:27:00] | nuxil: | god damn mythth is awsome compared to freevo |
| [19:28:00] | nasa: | Since my box is only for myth — why waste resources on large wm? |
| [19:28:00] | nuxil: | true |
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| [19:29:00] | nuxil: | nasa, xfce isnt lage tho. |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | i'm running evilwm. |
| [19:30:00] | nasa: | nuxil, true. It just was mentioned on some howto I was reading — so I went with it. I was just trying to track down some high (like 99% high) cpu usage issues I am seeing |
| [19:31:00] | laga: | nasa: nvidia driver version 8xxx? |
| [19:31:00] | nasa: | nah, 7676 |
| [19:32:00] | nuxil: | what card? |
| [19:32:00] | nuxil: | 6XXX? 5XXX? |
| [19:32:00] | nasa: | a fx5200 |
| [19:33:00] | nuxil: | the driver should work fine then,,, i dont think its the driver |
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| [19:33:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [19:33:00] | nuxil: | i use the same driver on fx6600 |
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| [19:33:00] | nuxil: | nasa, do you got java installed= |
| [19:33:00] | nuxil: | ? |
| [19:33:00] | nasa: | nuxil: I agree and no I don't have jave installed |
| [19:33:00] | nuxil: | i have had issues with java using that high cpu usage |
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| [19:34:00] | nuxil: | what app is using that much cpu power? |
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| [19:34:00] | nasa: | no, top is reporting X using 99% cpu usage... |
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| [19:34:00] | nuxil: | top |
| [19:34:00] | nuxil: | ohmy |
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| [19:35:00] | nasa: | I killed my frontend and then the wm and that returned things back to normal. |
| [19:35:00] | nuxil: | check the X log and see if it loads something |
| [19:36:00] | nasa: | nothing in x logs — let me go over and restart my frontend. |
| [19:36:00] | nuxil: | hmm |
| [19:37:00] | nuxil: | laga, can you give me your lircrc file :P |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | nuxil: i got mine from wilsonet.com |
| [19:37:00] | nuxil: | k. |
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| [19:40:00] | nasa: | brb |
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| [19:53:00] | nuxil: | laga where on wilsonet.com i cant find it.. i must be blind |
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| [19:53:00] | laga: | nuxil: search ;) |
| [19:58:00] | mlb: | SlicerDicer: xris mentioned you were able to encode a 1080i recording without the crazy "rolling" colors...how did you do it? |
| [19:59:00] | scopeuk: | what the best way to tune in my myth box (im in the uk) |
| [19:59:00] | nuxil: | what card? a ivtv cased or bttv |
| [20:00:00] | nuxil: | set it to europe-west pherhaps |
| [20:00:00] | nuxil: | then scan away |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | how do you record hdtv content with a ivtv/bttv based card? ;)) |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | oh |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | umm |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | never mind *blushes* |
| [20:02:00] | nuxil: | ivtv & mythtv = true :) |
| [20:02:00] | nuxil: | its like a hand in a glowe |
| [20:04:00] | nuxil: | laga im still blind.. i dont know where you found that lircrc file on that site.. all i see is "Get and install lirc" |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | nuxil: he has example files somewhere there..strg +f -> lircrc |
| [20:06:00] | scopeuk: | sorry |
| [20:06:00] | scopeuk: | i did it |
| [20:06:00] | scopeuk: | xaw tv on myth box and myth web on my box |
| [20:06:00] | scopeuk: | hazarded a guess and it worked |
| [20:06:00] | scopeuk: | my 433 can almsot do realtiem live tv |
| [20:06:00] | nuxil: | and why dosnt the wiki have a lircrc expample |
| [20:06:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [20:06:00] | nuxil: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/LIRC the link there is not workin |
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| [20:07:00] | laga: | mythtv comes with an example file |
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| [20:07:00] | nuxil: | weee |
| [20:07:00] | nuxil: | now you tell me |
| [20:07:00] | nuxil: | :P |
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| [20:10:00] | nuxil: | laga whats it named? i need to search for it.. i cant find it |
| [20:10:00] | nuxil: | forget that |
| [20:10:00] | nuxil: | i found it :) |
| [20:10:00] | nuxil: | just needed to put my glasses on :P |
| [20:12:00] | Zzeiss: | Well, I'm going to unmerge mythtv, then emerge it again. |
| [20:12:00] | nuxil: | why not use the snv? |
| [20:12:00] | nuxil: | *svn |
| [20:13:00] | nuxil: | better that way imo |
| [20:13:00] | Zzeiss: | nuxil: well, in theory at least the Gentoo setup will be stable. In theory. In theory. Maybe even tested. In theory. |
| [20:14:00] | laga: | if anyone catches me using SVN, please beat me hard. i wanna stay on 0.19 for some time ;) |
| [20:14:00] | nuxil: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html Zzeiss follow that guide and you'll be fine.. |
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| [20:15:00] | nuxil: | its stable. atleast for me |
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| [20:15:00] | Zzeiss: | nuxil: well, I've been having problems |
| [20:15:00] | nuxil: | with svn? |
| [20:16:00] | Zzeiss: | I did a stupid thing. I hadn't upgraded since .15, and did an "emerge --sync" "emerge --update world", and it broke in like three places and I can't get any of them fixed. |
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| [20:16:00] | nuxil: | suxz |
| [20:16:00] | laga: | you mean, your whole gentoo install was untouched since the days of 0.15? |
| [20:16:00] | Zzeiss: | Yep. |
| [20:17:00] | nuxil: | omg thats a loong time |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | ouch |
| [20:17:00] | Zzeiss: | It's been sitting in my AV rack running for a year plus. Only downtime was when power failed. |
| [20:17:00] | Zzeiss: | (and long fails – longer than the beefy UPS could keep it up) |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | gentoo should now be using a different compiler...completely different profile, even (which should protect you from gcc upgrades, now that i come to think about it) |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | i wonder if emerge --update --deep world might have been smarter ;) |
| [20:18:00] | Zzeiss: | Heh.... |
| [20:18:00] | Zzeiss: | Lemme do the rebuild, and if that doesn't fly, --deep it is. |
| [20:19:00] | laga: | hehe. '10^20 config files in /etc/ need to be updated.' ;) |
| [20:19:00] | nuxil: | gentoo rocks.. but im a debian fan :) |
| [20:19:00] | laga: | so am i |
| [20:19:00] | nuxil: | :) |
| [20:20:00] | Zzeiss: | As a matter of fact, it's not using the new compiler either. |
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| [20:21:00] | nuxil: | my filosify is that why should i compile every app.. when they are already compiled.. |
| [20:21:00] | dev-: | if you want different configure options, that could be a problem |
| [20:22:00] | nuxil: | not really. you can compile with apt to pasing options to the build |
| [20:22:00] | Zzeiss: | Darn... where do I set which gcc to use? |
| [20:22:00] | dev-: | then you're compiling :D |
| [20:22:00] | nuxil: | yea.. |
| [20:23:00] | nuxil: | but you said.. If i want diff option.. i dont always want that |
| [20:23:00] | nuxil: | brbr |
| [20:24:00] | laga: | Zzeiss: gcc-config. be careful. read the gcc transitioning guides |
| [20:24:00] | nuxil: | laga, this lircrc example is simple.. is that there is to it? i mean is that all options there is for myth. and why use prog = irxevent and not prog = mythtv |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | nuxil: you can use prog = mythtv if mythtv is compiled with native lirc support |
| [20:26:00] | nuxil: | ohmy.. is it compiled in as default |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | dunno |
| [20:26:00] | nuxil: | how to fig it out,, do you know? |
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| [20:28:00] | nuxil: | ahh yes,.. |
| [20:28:00] | nuxil: | running ./configure told me: lirc support yes |
| [20:28:00] | nuxil: | :D |
| [20:28:00] | dev-: | ldd will tell you as well. |
| [20:29:00] | nuxil: | ldd what? mythtv? |
| [20:29:00] | nuxil: | ldd mythtv? |
| [20:29:00] | dev-: | heh no |
| [20:29:00] | nuxil: | lol |
| [20:29:00] | dev-: | ldd `which mythfrontend` |grep lirc |
| [20:29:00] | Dibblah_: | You don't have to read the guides. You just need to go 'huh' when ld stops being able to link. |
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| [20:29:00] | nuxil: | ic |
| [20:29:00] | Dibblah_: | And wonder how the hell to recover from it, since you need to recompile ld. |
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| [20:30:00] | FunkyELF: | where do I set when to expire live tv recordings? |
| [20:30:00] | dev-: | setting -> general i think |
| [20:30:00] | dev-: | maybe settings -> tv settings -> general |
| [20:30:00] | dev-: | one or the other. |
| [20:31:00] | nuxil: | dev-, do you got your lircrc with prog = mythtv ? |
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| [20:31:00] | dev-: | yes |
| [20:31:00] | nuxil: | can i get a copy of you? |
| [20:31:00] | dev-: | there are many available online |
| [20:31:00] | dev-: | i just used an example and modified it |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | no, his DNA is protected by international patent laws. |
| [20:32:00] | dev-: | lol |
| [20:32:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [20:32:00] | nuxil: | hehe |
| [20:32:00] | FunkyELF: | where can I watch my live tv recordings? It keeps them so I figured there'd be a place to view them but I couldn't find any |
| [20:32:00] | nuxil: | FunkyELF look in the menus |
| [20:32:00] | nuxil: | its there |
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| [20:32:00] | dev-: | its not in the menus, you set a filter view in recorded programs |
| [20:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what would cause it to where mythweb for 0.19 would not be able to delete recordings? |
| [20:33:00] | FunkyELF: | nuxil, under watch recordings? |
| [20:33:00] | nuxil: | listen to dev- |
| [20:33:00] | ** nuxil is a mythtv newbee ** | |
| [20:33:00] | nuxil: | 1st day |
| [20:33:00] | dev-: | by default it wont show them in recorded programs, you can change that in settings if you want, to see them by default hit m and you'll see a filter for livetv |
| [20:34:00] | oneko: | hey all. i bought a fancy hdtv the other day and am in the planning stages of setting up my a MythTV box. It's an AthlonXP 3200+ and I figured I'd do mpeg4 encoding. However, I want to run it diskless for noise reasons. Will I be banging my head against the wall if I use mythTv to record/playback from 100mbit NFS? Am I better off just getting a quiet hard disk? |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | well, first of all: are you gonna record hdtv? |
| [20:34:00] | oneko: | most likely not |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | oh. ok. because hdtv usually comes encoded as mpeg2, that's why i was asking |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | well, one of my frontends is a diskless one and it works well. |
| [20:35:00] | oneko: | alright |
| [20:35:00] | dev-: | laga: you stream hdtv over 100mbit? 1080i? |
| [20:35:00] | oneko: | i actually dont even have any HD inputs yet.. ;) the tv was kindof an impulse purchase |
| [20:36:00] | nuxil: | laga, guess what.. my first hit on google was.. "mythtv lircrc" hehe http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haup |
| [20:36:00] | oneko: | oh also |
| [20:36:00] | laga: | oh, and i'd suggest that you don't get a framegrabber card (prerequsite for mpeg4 recordings), get a PVR 500. recordings will be slightly larger, but usually better quality and it won't cost you any cpu cycles (less noise) |
| [20:36:00] | nuxil: | :P i told you i was blind |
| [20:36:00] | oneko: | we use DirecTV. Should I just shoot myself in the head now? |
| [20:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [20:36:00] | laga: | dev-: i stream sdtv over 100mbit ;) |
| [20:36:00] | dev-: | laga: ah. i got confused. |
| [20:36:00] | laga: | oneko: can't comment on that |
| [20:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga: I stream sdtv over gigabit |
| [20:37:00] | nuxil: | i got a pvr 500.. its awsome |
| [20:37:00] | oneko: | i can upgrade my network to gigabit if necessary |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | dev-: the major culprit with hdtv might not be fast ethernet, but the 450mhz cpu in my frontend ;) |
| [20:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [20:37:00] | dev-: | laga: that will be ap roblem, yes :) |
| [20:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would agree laga |
| [20:37:00] | oneko: | i was planning on doing that anyway this year |
| [20:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that would not work well |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | oneko: for SDTV, 100mbit should work well. my recordings are like 5mbit/s. |
| [20:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody here know what would cause mythweb not to be able to delete recordings? |
| [20:38:00] | dev-: | php running in safe mode |
| [20:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dev-: hmm |
| [20:38:00] | dev-: | hmmm! |
| [20:39:00] | laga: | dev-: you sure? i believed that mythweb would talk to the backend |
| [20:39:00] | dev-: | not sure, just my first guess |
| [20:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dev-: php_value safe_mode 0 |
| [20:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but when I click the delete button it does absolutely nothing |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: check apache, php and mythbackend logs |
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| [20:43:00] | techgeek_us: | slicerdicer: check javascript settings in the browser |
| [20:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh |
| [20:43:00] | oneko: | goddamn DRM. |
| [20:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | File does not exist: /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/data/recordings/1502_20051228200000_2005122822 3000 |
| [20:43:00] | oneko: | i wish i could just have the directtv receiver just pass the decrypted mpeg2... |
| [20:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | oneko: you in the US? |
| [20:44:00] | oneko: | yeah |
| [20:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga: I dont know how to allow it heh |
| [20:44:00] | oneko: | just the idea of having the set top box decode, passed as shitty analog, then re-encoding it seems kludgy and ugly to me |
| [20:44:00] | Peit|home: | sill question, but does anyone know why mythtv now appears to require a soundcard to do transcoding? (0.18 was fine without a sound card), now i get "NVR::AudioInit() This Unix doesn't support device files for audio access. Skipping", looking at NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp it's checking to see if a soundcard is defined |
| [20:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think its a permissions error laga I am not a person who knows apache heh |
| [20:45:00] | dev-: | if you click delete and it doesnt do anything, like not even ask you if you're sure yo uwant to delete it |
| [20:45:00] | dev-: | techgeek_us is probably closest to the problem :) your browser |
| [20:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dev-: umm I checked javascript |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | oneko: oh, the quality won't be that bad. but if you are in the US, your cable company has to provide you a box that has firewire output which can be used together with mythtv (i've heard reports where it wouldn't work too well, though, so be careful). but i'm just a kraut so may have to find a yankee to explain it all to you ;) |
| [20:46:00] | briand: | SlicerDicer-: when you installed mythweb, did you follow the instructions about setting permissions on the ..mythweb/data directory? |
| [20:46:00] | oneko: | hmm |
| [20:46:00] | oneko: | hey, personally, i'd rather be in europe myself |
| [20:46:00] | oneko: | :) |
| [20:46:00] | dev-: | SlicerDicer-: if you dont get that confirmation dialoge, i would look further at your browser |
| [20:47:00] | Kury: | how do I change the channle to test my PVR 350 card? |
| [20:47:00] | squish: | do u know if u can change the channel names in mythweb -> listing? |
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| [20:48:00] | briand: | Kury: ptune-ui.pl |
| [20:48:00] | Kury: | briand: .. I've been using ptune.pl... but it keeps seg faulting |
| [20:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dev-: yeah I dont but I cant figure out what would be causing htat |
| [20:49:00] | Kury: | the ui version seg faults too |
| [20:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dev-: I have looked at java script and it should all be working |
| [20:49:00] | briand: | Kury: are you sure that your ivtv 0.4.x driver is loading correctly? |
| [20:50:00] | oneko: | this may be a painful experience. hmm. |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | painful? bah. you guys at least have zap2it. |
| [20:50:00] | techgeek_us: | anyone have sound multiplexing working? |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | i have to sit down with an execel spreadsheet, browse epg websites and write it all down, then export to xml and feed it to mythfilldatabase |
| [20:51:00] | oneko: | well |
| [20:51:00] | oneko: | my directv receiver doesnt have a data port |
| [20:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dev-: I have tried several browsers now too |
| [20:51:00] | Kury: | briand: I don't see anything bad on the command line or in /var/log/messages when I modprobe ivtv.. |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | oneko: irblaster? |
| [20:51:00] | oneko: | :) |
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| [20:54:00] | scopeuk: | ok can any one help me my audio works fine in myth music but not in live tv or playing back recorded files |
| [20:54:00] | briand: | Kury: what about dmesg output? |
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| [20:54:00] | dev-: | SlicerDicer-: dunno.. sounds like a javascript problem to me |
| [20:55:00] | Kury: | briand: nothing.. |
| [20:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I mean is it possible that its broken on 3 differnet computers? |
| [20:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | with 5 differnet browsers? |
| [20:55:00] | dev-: | anythings possible, but likely, no |
| [20:55:00] | dev-: | maybe your logs will show you something. apache errorlog being the first place to start |
| [20:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I already pasted the apache error |
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| [20:56:00] | squish: | scopeuk, u using a bttv driver? |
| [20:57:00] | scopeuk: | no its a cable |
| [20:57:00] | scopeuk: | belvie mine predates sound through the pci bus |
| [20:57:00] | scopeuk: | i think i may ahve set the sound device wrong |
| [20:57:00] | dev-: | SlicerDicer-: hrm did you not symlink video_dir to your recordgings directory? |
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| [20:57:00] | dev-: | SlicerDicer-: believe it says to do that in the docs ;p |
| [20:58:00] | techgeek_us: | slicerdicer: do you get the conformation dialogue when attempting to delete a recording? |
| [20:58:00] | squish: | scopeuk, i had a software encoded one that needed the jumper cable.. and i never got the sound working well |
| [20:58:00] | scopeuk: | itsa bt878 |
| [20:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dev-: I can access the video's through it by clicking on the images and download them so I would assume that the link is working |
| [20:58:00] | squish: | gave up and bought a pvr 150 |
| [20:58:00] | scopeuk: | and ok |
| [20:58:00] | scopeuk: | ive had the soudn working on debian but nto on knoppmyth |
| [20:58:00] | dev-: | SlicerDicer-: interesting. |
| [20:58:00] | dev-: | oh well, i dunno, good luck hehe |
| [21:00:00] | techgeek_us: | slicerdicer: the delete link uses javascript while clicking on the image accesses the video directly |
| [21:00:00] | techgeek_us: | are you using a proxy of some sort? |
| [21:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
| [21:03:00] | techgeek_us: | slicerdicer: do you get the conformation dialogue when attempting to delete a recording? |
| [21:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
| [21:03:00] | techgeek_us: | then the javascript link isn't working for some reason |
| [21:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Directory index forbidden by rule: /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/data/recordings/ |
| [21:03:00] | techgeek_us: | it doesn't attempt to delete it until after you confirm through that javascript popup |
| [21:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what apache says |
| [21:04:00] | techgeek_us: | I think that message is a red herring |
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| [21:09:00] | ruckus: | hi – has has anyone been having trouble using nuvexport-mpeg2cut on FC4 with myth .19? I get the error "Unknown exporter mode: mpeg2cut" at startup. Any help would be much appreciated. |
| [21:09:00] | techgeek_us: | bbl8r |
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| [21:11:00] | Tommck: | I've been monitoring the 0.19 release messages in mythv-users mailing list. It seems to have settled down. Are people seeing generally stable results now? |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | works for me [tm] |
| [21:12:00] | Tommck: | hey laga... how's it going? |
| [21:12:00] | jnunez: | ls |
| [21:12:00] | jnunez: | lol sorry |
| [21:12:00] | jnunez: | sleepy |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | Tommck: pretty good ;) though i need a new beer. what about you? |
| [21:12:00] | Tommck: | having one right now :) |
| [21:13:00] | nuxil: | hmm do i need to start mythtv up with some parameters to get lirc support? |
| [21:13:00] | bcarlisl: | I keep getting this recurring error in dmesg. It says the tuner type isn't set. Do I need to modprobe the tuner module again? |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | Tommck: heh |
| [21:14:00] | nuxil: | or do i need to put the lircrc somewhere else than ~/.lircrc ? |
| [21:14:00] | Tommck: | laga – this may seem like a silly question, but I have a 27GB boot drive on my backend and I need to upgrade OS (need new kernel for HD3000) ... was wondering if it would be hard to do a dual boot on the same drive (resize the partition, etc. |
| [21:15:00] | laga: | Tommck: do you need to upgrade the kernel or to upgrade the whole OS? (fedora, right?) |
| [21:15:00] | nuxil: | lircd is running.. test with irw is good ... /etc/lircd.conf is ther .. mythtv has lirc support.. what am i missing then |
| [21:15:00] | Tommck: | I'm on SUSE 9.1 (kinda old) and there are no supported kernels high enough.. |
| [21:15:00] | Tommck: | I figured I'd take the chance and try running Ubuntu 5.10 instead |
| [21:16:00] | laga: | Tommck: humm. |
| [21:16:00] | laga: | Tommck: oh, you're gonna migrate to ubuntu? ;) |
| [21:16:00] | Tommck: | yeah... I've played with it... seems pretty nice |
| [21:16:00] | Tommck: | and it seems there are more people using it for Myth too |
| [21:16:00] | laga: | Tommck: but honestly, if your system works well, just try to get the latest & greatest from kernel.org and install that alongside with your currently running kernel |
| [21:17:00] | Tommck: | laga – the guys on #suse told me not to do that because it would break some other stuff.. |
| [21:17:00] | nuxil: | hmm someone hjelp me pls |
| [21:17:00] | Tommck: | apparently the SUSE folks customize the kernel based on file locations, etc. |
| [21:17:00] | bcarlisl: | After trying to run live tv a bunch of times, I get tuner 0–0061: tuner type not set |
| [21:17:00] | bcarlisl: | in dmesg and then a bunch of ivtv0 warnings about an address not being found. |
| [21:17:00] | laga: | Tommck: yeah, that's possible. suse has some ugly custom patchsets. |
| [21:17:00] | scopeuk: | guys think i may have got my sound going for the card think it may have been the mixer settings |
| [21:17:00] | ** scopeuk is a dunce ** | |
| [21:18:00] | scopeuk: | works for lvie tv jsut testign recorded now |
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| [21:18:00] | Tommck: | laga – I can drop another drive in there and dual boot on that, I guess. |
| [21:19:00] | Tommck: | of course, that machine's got 6 drives in it already. |
| [21:19:00] | Tommck: | not sure if I have any more bays left |
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| [21:20:00] | nuxil: | damn lirc |
| [21:20:00] | ** Tommck doesn't use lirc ** | |
| [21:20:00] | ** Tommck uses an IR keyboard + learning remote :) ** | |
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| [21:21:00] | nuxil: | learning remote? |
| [21:21:00] | Tommck: | yeah... you point the keyboard at the remote... and "learn" the IR signal... they're common |
| [21:21:00] | laga: | Tommck: that should work ;) |
| [21:21:00] | Tommck: | the remote has a "learning" mode for programming buttons |
| [21:21:00] | Tommck: | laga – what should work? |
| [21:22:00] | nuxil: | ahh cool |
| [21:22:00] | nuxil: | what do i need to do to get this lirc stuff working |
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| [21:23:00] | nuxil: | this is anoying |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | Tommck: dual-booting off another drive |
| [21:23:00] | Perdignus: | Hello – I using a PCHD3000 for NTSC but it looks all washed out and too bright, what could cause this? |
| [21:23:00] | Tommck: | laga – yeah... just have to figure out how to hook it up |
| [21:24:00] | Tommck: | Perdignus – why use it for NTSC? kind of a waste of an HD card, huh? |
| [21:24:00] | nuxil: | is lirc verison 0.7.2 incomartible with myth ? |
| [21:24:00] | nuxil: | doent myth need 0.7.X? |
| [21:25:00] | Tommck: | laga – guess I could ghost the drive onto another one to get extra space... then make another partition for the 2nd install... that way I could get back to the first drive if it's broken |
| [21:25:00] | Juski: | using 0.7.2 here fine |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | Tommck: not sure if ghost would work, it'd probably have to modify the partition table. not sure, though. i'm not much of a partitions guy ;) |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | heya Juski |
| [21:26:00] | Juski: | hiya laga |
| [21:26:00] | Juski: | hellish in here again I see |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [21:26:00] | nuxil: | Juski what else have you dont? |
| [21:27:00] | laga: | Juski: at least it gives me an excuse for drinking ;) |
| [21:27:00] | Juski: | what else have I don't? I read all the FM & everything a few times before I even downloaded anything |
| [21:27:00] | laga: | nuxil: and then he got yelled at by me (several times) |
| [21:27:00] | laga: | it worked :) |
| [21:27:00] | Juski: | oh, and I didn't rely on anyone else's config files ;-) especially for LIRC |
| [21:28:00] | nuxil: | Juski, i got ~/.lircrc i got /etc/lircd.conf .. lircd is running |
| [21:28:00] | Juski: | laga: that was a light treatment I got.. made me think about stuff for sure ;) |
| [21:28:00] | Juski: | nuxil: you tested the configuration of the remote using irw ? |
| [21:28:00] | nuxil: | yeds it works with irw |
| [21:28:00] | nuxil: | *yes |
| [21:29:00] | laga: | Juski: sarcasm is my favourite thing. |
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| [21:29:00] | Juski: | got a lircrc file (not .lircrc) in ~/.mythtv, nuxil ? |
| [21:29:00] | nuxil: | no |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | that's part of the problem then |
| [21:29:00] | nuxil: | heh lemme try that :) |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | not reading the FM is many a user's downfall |
| [21:30:00] | Zzeiss: | May I rant on that? |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | nope |
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| [21:31:00] | nuxil: | Juski still not workin |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | Zzeiss: why not? |
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| [21:31:00] | nuxil: | weird |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | nuxil: is mythtv built with LIRC support? |
| [21:31:00] | nuxil: | yes |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | sure? |
| [21:32:00] | nuxil: | 100% |
| [21:32:00] | Zzeiss: | [[ the current MythTV HowTo needs to be set up so you can print it out as one long document, rather than being available only as 10^3 separate web pages. That is, allow both ways. End rant. ]] |
| [21:32:00] | Perdignus: | Anyone using an HD3000 for standard NTSC ? |
| [21:32:00] | nuxil: | verry weird |
| [21:32:00] | Zzeiss: | Perdignus: Have one, haven't tried it yet. Why, is it not workng? |
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| [21:32:00] | Perdignus: | Zzeiss : yes and not, it works but looks awful, all washed out, too bright, colors are weird |
| [21:33:00] | Juski: | pretty lame use for such a good card I think.. welcome to the world of software encoding |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | I tried software encoding last year – got it all working really easily but it was craptacular |
| [21:34:00] | Perdignus: | Juski: yes it's very disapointing, I've the card and problem for about a year now and try to resolve it ever 3 months or so, never have... |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | bite the bullet & buy a pvr150 for SDTV – you won't regret it |
| [21:34:00] | ** Juski goes off to watch Invasion ** | |
| [21:35:00] | laga: | Zzeiss: check the mythtv source tarball. |
| [21:35:00] | laga: | Zzeiss: docs/ subdir. |
| [21:35:00] | mchou: | I dont understand what problems you guys have with SW encoding. it is not superb, but it's certainly passable |
| [21:35:00] | laga: | mchou: my mythtv boxen tend to be way underpowered ;) |
| [21:35:00] | mchou: | a pvr-x50 would be preferable, but hardly a REQUIREMENT |
| [21:36:00] | nuxil: | arr problem.. Juski how am i suppose to save the file as .mythtv when i have a dir with the same name |
| [21:36:00] | laga: | nuxil: ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [21:36:00] | nuxil: | tryed that one |
| [21:37:00] | mchou: | laga: shit, you can buy a barebones mobo + 3000+ CPU (Sempron) for around $70 these days |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | mchou: hardware is a little bit more expensive in germany. and i don't buy crap. |
| [21:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: are you around? |
| [21:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: HA! maybe in your dreams! |
| [21:38:00] | mchou: | laga: crap?? I'd hardly call semprons crap |
| [21:38:00] | ** SlicerDicer- looks around ** | |
| [21:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wait maybe I am dreaming! |
| [21:38:00] | laga: | mchou: cheap mobos, that is |
| [21:38:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: wtf you talking about? |
| [21:38:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: that'd be a nightmare. |
| [21:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I dunno haha |
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| [21:38:00] | mchou: | laga: the mobos work very reliably |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | last night, i dreamt how my inbox got flooded with notifications for new postings from mythtvtalk.com. i think i need a break ;) |
| [21:39:00] | sandos: | bah. I found a interlace-able card for my mythbox, but it hangs the machine randomly.. even pre-POST :( very weird. Never seen anything like that. |
| [21:39:00] | sandos: | laga, I didnt know about that forum =) |
| [21:39:00] | mchou: | laga: you are attempting to avoid the main point by casting aspersions. |
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| [21:40:00] | sphing: | laga: I dreamt that MS hired me as an intern |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | mchou: my point is that i don't know why i should buy a crappy card for ¤30 when i can get an awesome one for ¤60, especially if the crappy card is gonna cost me ¤100 in hardware upgrades and add more noise to my living room. |
| [21:40:00] | sphing: | i also need a break |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | sphing: how was it? lots of leather and whips? |
| [21:41:00] | sphing: | ... they pay $80k for new recruits... not bad |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | nice |
| [21:42:00] | ** Tommck will be right back ** | |
| [21:42:00] | mchou: | laga: most ppl if they have modern systems have more than enough CPU to handle SW encode |
| [21:42:00] | Brov: | Why is it I can run a script fine as user mythtv from xterm but it doesn't run properly when called from mythtv interface? |
| [21:43:00] | laga: | mchou: none of my business then :) i don't have to prove anything in here, i believe |
| [21:43:00] | oneko: | hmm. |
| [21:43:00] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Brov: enviroment variables might be different |
| [21:43:00] | Brov: | its driving me kerrazee i spent like 10 hours trying to get it to work |
| [21:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: hey I was wondering if you were aware of a way to deinterlace playback with AMD64 |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | Brov: start mythfrontend in an xterm, execute your script, switch back to the xterm. |
| [21:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my 64bit cannot seem to deinterlace |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: deinterlacing should work just fine with amd64 |
| [21:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga: well it does not |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | that's weird then ;) |
| [21:45:00] | Brov: | I sudo call a script that executes 'nohup /etc/init.d/gdm restart', works fine in xterm but not when called either by remote or EXEC in one of the menu.xml files |
| [21:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga: yeah it is |
| [21:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my 32bit system does fine but AMD64 system does not |
| [21:46:00] | Brov: | laga: trouble is the script is to do gdm restart it kills it OK but doesn't then re-run it |
| [21:46:00] | Brov: | but DOES work when i call from xterm (uses nohup so it doesnt die) |
| [21:47:00] | Brov: | Is there maybe another way maybe to get XF86Config-4 to reload? |
| [21:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga: yeah my AMD64 system acts weird still though |
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| [21:48:00] | laga: | while true; do startx; done – that's hackish but works well for me ;)) |
| [21:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga: 3500+ AMD goes as slow as a 1.4ghz with MMX enabled cause I dont think that SSE is working properly |
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| [21:51:00] | bobbyz: | is there an advantage to using mythtv with jack audio as opposed to using mythtv with alsa? |
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| [21:52:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: in myth or any proggie? |
| [21:52:00] | Perdignus: | So if I were to buy a new card right now, and wanted two of them, should I get a 150/250/350 or 500? |
| [21:52:00] | nuxil: | pvr 500 |
| [21:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mythtv mchou when doing playback of recordings |
| [21:53:00] | Perdignus: | nuxil linux support is good for the 500 ? |
| [21:53:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: di works fine for me in amd64 |
| [21:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: hmm |
| [21:53:00] | nuxil: | Perdignus, mythtv & ivtv = true |
| [21:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what cpu are you using? |
| [21:53:00] | nuxil: | :) Perdignus i got a pvr 500.. its awsome. |
| [21:53:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: 3200+ |
| [21:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not bad |
| [21:54:00] | sandos: | 500 is the dual-tuner one? |
| [21:54:00] | Perdignus: | nuxil: and it has two tuners right? just no video out? |
| [21:54:00] | nuxil: | you can watch one thong and record another thing |
| [21:54:00] | nuxil: | yes 2 tuners |
| [21:54:00] | mchou: | thong thong thong |
| [21:54:00] | Perdignus: | and they are hardware mpeg encoders? |
| [21:54:00] | nuxil: | 2 vid outs too |
| [21:54:00] | nuxil: | svid |
| [21:54:00] | scopeuk: | wow rtjpeg realy does eat disc space |
| [21:54:00] | nuxil: | arr thats inn |
| [21:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: what distro you using? |
| [21:55:00] | mchou: | mandriva |
| [21:55:00] | nuxil: | Perdignus use your grafic card for tv out |
| [21:55:00] | Perdignus: | nuxil: I think I'm sold |
| [21:55:00] | nuxil: | oh. |
| [21:56:00] | nuxil: | get the 500 :) if you gonna buy a pvr card |
| [21:56:00] | Perdignus: | nuxil: what did you pay for it? |
| [21:56:00] | nuxil: | about 200$ here in norway |
| [21:57:00] | Perdignus: | that's a reasonable price |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: street price in us is about $125 for pvr500 |
| [21:57:00] | nuxil: | its woth it |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | maybe $140 |
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| [21:57:00] | nuxil: | *worth |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | nuxil: I dont think it's worth $200 |
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| [21:58:00] | mchou: | I'd pay $130, but not $200 |
| [21:58:00] | Perdignus: | mchou: I was thinking 200 in Norwegen sheckels ;) |
| [21:58:00] | nuxil: | mchou, caluclate how much its is.. i payed 1354 Norwegian Kr |
| [21:58:00] | nuxil: | i dont know the valuta |
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| [21:59:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: where are you from? |
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| [21:59:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: you dont have DVB over there? |
| [21:59:00] | Perdignus: | mchou – err, do I have to answer that, it's a bit embarrasing |
| [22:00:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: you're german. |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | oh, he's german? ;) |
| [22:00:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: what's wrong with dvb? |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | Perdignus: /join # mythtv-de |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | Perdignus: /join #mythtv-de |
| [22:01:00] | Perdignus: | mchou : I just can't get standard ntsc working as well as my 1960's ATI TV Wonder card |
| [22:01:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: haha |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | Perdignus: are you located in germany or not? |
| [22:01:00] | Perdignus: | laga: uh, er, well, I'm uh, no |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | oh, ok |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | your host name is a little bit misleading |
| [22:02:00] | Perdignus: | laga: yes, I'm hiding from the feds ;) |
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| [22:02:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: what's so embarassing about where you live? |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | Perdignus: heh |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | mchou: he's prolly located in the US |
| [22:03:00] | ** Perdignus lives in Wisconsin "Helloooo Wisconsin!" ** | |
| [22:03:00] | sphing: | Perdignus: you seen dogma |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: if you're in US get a qam capable atsc card |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | way better than pvr500 |
| [22:03:00] | ** SlicerDicer- lives in washington Perdignus "HEELOOOOO WASHINGTON" – Chris Farley ** | |
| [22:03:00] | Perdignus: | mchou : I can't get HD other than over the air, so right now I'm watching standard def |
| [22:03:00] | zooted: | I have 2 capture devices and only one can receive certain channels. How do I make sure that Myth uses the correct capture device for recordings? |
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| [22:04:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: you cant get HD over cable? |
| [22:04:00] | Perdignus: | mchou: yeah, hard to believe, but no, not yet |
| [22:04:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: where the fuck is this? |
| [22:05:00] | Perdignus: | mchou : Sheboygan, AKA Shevegas, Sheboogie, SheerBoredome (50 miles North of Milwaukee) |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | even Wisconsin aint that backwards unless you're ted kosinski |
| [22:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [22:06:00] | Brov: | laga: How does 'while true; do startx; done' work for you, it just hangs for me |
| [22:06:00] | Perdignus: | That 70's Show sometimes refers to Sheboygan as "Sin City" |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | Perdignus: make sure to look under your bed |
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| [22:07:00] | Perdignus: | nothing but cat hair and dustballs under there |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | Brov: it'll execute 'startx' and after you kill X, it'll just restart. it's an ugly hack, though. you 'd better add a sleep somewhere in there |
| [22:07:00] | Brov: | OIC you put that in the original myth startup script |
| [22:09:00] | Brov: | so I can just use /etc/init.d/gdm stop then x will restart itself |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | (what original myth startup script?) |
| [22:09:00] | Brov: | well somewhere when the pc boots something must startup x, i guess |
| [22:10:00] | Brov: | where did u stick it? |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | Brov: i'm using initng and wrote a custom init script that just executes 'startx' |
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| [22:13:00] | Brov: | hmmmm |
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| [22:17:00] | scopeuk: | okmy sound is still not working i can get live soudn out of the card or i can fidle the mixer and get it but it doesent seam to record |
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| [22:17:00] | scopeuk: | ive set lien to recording but it doesent like it |
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| [22:23:00] | nasa: | Can anyone help me with optimizing my latency settings? |
| [22:24:00] | laga: | --verbose |
| [22:24:00] | drdaz: | hey there.. I've just moved from rpms to SVN and my weather icons have disappeared oO any idea why? |
| [22:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [22:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant get my stupid commflag to fly like it usto with 0.18 at 500fps |
| [22:27:00] | nasa: | drdaz: 1) did you completely uninstall all rpms? 2) did you make sure everythign was installed to the same locations? (ie svn uses /usr/local/share by default) 3)did you recompile both mythtv, mythplugins, & myththemes? |
| [22:27:00] | nasa: | /s/all/both |
| [22:27:00] | drdaz: | 1) yes 2) yes 3) almost :p |
| [22:27:00] | drdaz: | didnt recompile myththemes |
| [22:28:00] | bobbyz: | If I setup the jack audio daemon, will I end up with better mythtv audio performance than if I use alsa alone? |
| [22:28:00] | drdaz: | I'm using projectgreyhem-wide though... that could be the issue? |
| [22:28:00] | nasa: | drdaz: is it installed to the right location? |
| [22:29:00] | drdaz: | yeah.. I used /usr as the prefix at all steps |
| [22:29:00] | drdaz: | so |
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| [22:29:00] | nasa: | ie: if you used the defaults, it should be /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/ |
| [22:30:00] | nasa: | so you have a projectgreyhem-wide directory at /usr/share/mythtv/themes/ |
| [22:30:00] | drdaz: | yes |
| [22:30:00] | drdaz: | all works fine actually apart from the weather icons |
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| [22:31:00] | nasa: | hmmm.... haven't checked my setup lately — let me check. BTW: did you try any other theme? |
| [22:31:00] | drdaz: | no actually |
| [22:32:00] | nasa: | Try that — if they show up there, then reinstall the theme. |
| [22:32:00] | drdaz: | also the dsmyth filters dont seem to work anymore... anybody know if the version in CVS is compatible with current myth svn? |
| [22:33:00] | drdaz: | nasa: I'll give that a shot |
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| [22:40:00] | opello: | so my cable provider is cruel and likes to mess with me, they switched 2 channels around, do i just mythfilldatabase and it fixes itself? |
| [22:40:00] | nasa: | what latency should the ide subsystem be set to? I am guessing 0 is not good.... |
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| [22:44:00] | opello: | that didn't seem to fix it |
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| [22:54:00] | drdaz: | nasa: got a slightly unexpected result from switching themes.. when I select mythweather using blue or GANT, *nothing* happens |
| [22:54:00] | drdaz: | or rather.. I just get to stare at the background |
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| [22:54:00] | drdaz: | no error, no weather, no nothing oO |
| [22:57:00] | nasa: | drdaz: that's not cool :{ |
| [22:57:00] | drdaz: | heh nope |
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| [22:59:00] | nasa: | drdaz: At this point I would do "make uninstall" in both mythtv && mythplugins. Then check to make sure directories are empty, then ./configure; make *pro; make install for both mythtv && mythplugins |
| [23:00:00] | drdaz: | :( |
| [23:00:00] | nasa: | I would also look at doing a script before compiling the before mentioned items (so you can check for any errors) — script creates the typescript file |
| [23:01:00] | nasa: | You could always just look at as an opportunity to do a "svn update" |
| [23:01:00] | drdaz: | hehe I guess so |
| [23:02:00] | drdaz: | I'm quite hesitant to do that tho.. it strikes me as an opening for instability to creep in |
| [23:02:00] | drdaz: | not that the current version is working flawlessly :P |
| [23:02:00] | nasa: | lol |
| [23:02:00] | drdaz: | current installation even |
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| [23:03:00] | Brov: | Laga: hey I spent all day trying to get this reboot gdm script working but failed. The knoppmyth guy just gave me the answer. 'killall -1 gdm' is the elusive magic command that solves ALL my issues... |
| [23:03:00] | nasa: | drdaz: which branch of svn did you use? |
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| [23:03:00] | drdaz: | trunk |
| [23:04:00] | laga: | Brov: :) |
| [23:04:00] | Brov: | I'm so happy :) :) :) I can finally go to bed! |
| [23:04:00] | nasa: | drdaz: doing the "make uninstall" ensures a clean canvas to paint things back on — thus helping to reduce the chance of instability due to a bad install... |
| [23:05:00] | nasa: | No promises on the code though. |
| [23:05:00] | drdaz: | agreed.. |
| [23:05:00] | drdaz: | I'll do it too.. but it wont be tonight.. |
| [23:05:00] | drdaz: | have to get up again awfully soon :( |
| [23:06:00] | nasa: | work getting in the way of fun.... got to hate that! |
| [23:06:00] | drdaz: | fwiw.. I ran make uninstall today |
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| [23:06:00] | drdaz: | first time around I built and installed without xvmc support |
| [23:07:00] | nasa: | drdaz; you can build with xvmc — it's turned off by default |
| [23:07:00] | drdaz: | yes :) |
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| [23:07:00] | drdaz: | thats what I did the second time, following a make uninstall |
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| [23:08:00] | Pitchin_uk: | evening all |
| [23:08:00] | Pitchin_uk: | with 0.19 mythweb is there any config that needs doing to get it working |
| [23:08:00] | Pitchin_uk: | im getting a 500 error |
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| [23:09:00] | nasa: | drdaz: so you have done clean installs 2x? |
| [23:09:00] | drdaz: | yeah |
| [23:09:00] | ** nasa rethinks his suggestion... ** | |
| [23:09:00] | drdaz: | actually 3... heh |
| [23:09:00] | drdaz: | it seems that make clean is needed when you recompile too :p |
| [23:10:00] | nasa: | yeah, always a good idea |
| [23:10:00] | nasa: | drdaz: which theme did you switch too? |
| [23:10:00] | drdaz: | both blue and GANT |
| [23:10:00] | drdaz: | same result |
| [23:10:00] | drdaz: | they are included per default with the main myth bundle right? |
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| [23:11:00] | ** nasa scratches his head — as both of those have worked on his system ** | |
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| [23:11:00] | drdaz: | I *havent* installed themes since switching |
| [23:11:00] | ** nasa also using svn trunk version ** | |
| [23:11:00] | nasa: | drdaz: right |
| [23:12:00] | ** drdaz screwed something up somewhere ** | |
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| [23:12:00] | nasa: | drdaz: everything else works, right? |
| [23:12:00] | drdaz: | yep |
| [23:12:00] | drdaz: | seems to at least |
| [23:14:00] | jh81: | i'm having a bit of an issue getting ir blaster to work; setting it up based on http://www.mmdsi.com/mythtv/MythTV_DISH_IR_LE . . . ed_LIRC.html but need to run on com 4 (ttyS3) instead of com 2 |
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| [23:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so hey guys would you say a raptor would be worth it for the myth database and base ssystem? |
| [23:15:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: no |
| [23:16:00] | jh81: | i got everything installed i believe however when trying to ledxmit-irsend the ir led does not illuminate |
| [23:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why not nasa? |
| [23:16:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: raptor are 10K very fast drives (and expensive) — what part of mythtv needs something that fast? |
| [23:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | database? |
| [23:17:00] | Juski: | nah |
| [23:17:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: nope |
| [23:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144200 |
| [23:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its only 100$ |
| [23:17:00] | Juski: | for SDTV & HDTV you could probably get away with a 5400RPM drive if its interface is fast enough |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | spend the $100 on a bigger drive |
| [23:18:00] | nasa: | Plus space is much more important than speed for a mythbox — especially if you are going to have HD |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: I got enough space right now |
| [23:18:00] | ** Juski laughs ** | |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | you can _never_ have enough storage |
| [23:18:00] | ** nasa knows there is never enough space ** | |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well of course not |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but the way I see it I can allocate 100$ a month in harddrives |
| [23:19:00] | drdaz: | :-o |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that means I can either add 250gb this month or speed up the database and make it less laggy as I get more recordings :) |
| [23:19:00] | laga: | raptors are noisy, i think |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | and hot, don't forget |
| [23:19:00] | nasa: | 10K == loud |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | so it'll need cooling, which means more noise |
| [23:19:00] | sandos: | spcr has reviewed recenr raptors afaik |
| [23:19:00] | sandos: | I dont think they were that awful but Im not sure |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: got it covered :) |
| [23:20:00] | Juski: | oh and putting HDDs next to other HDDs slows em down too |
| [23:20:00] | nasa: | and each additional one will add 3db of noise |
| [23:20:00] | Juski: | less so with the new rotational vibration sensing models |
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| [23:21:00] | sandos: | Juski, also potentially killing eachother.. one guy had a bunch of disks together.. they broke down one after another.. it was apparnelty one of them vibrating the others to hell :) |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [23:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was basicly wanting to shift my /tmp and base system off of the storage drive :/ |
| [23:21:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: you think a faster drive will solve laggy issues? |
| [23:21:00] | sandos: | Ive never had that problem though luckily :9 |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | most pc case designs treat HDDs very badly |
| [23:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: faster seeks would eh? |
| [23:21:00] | ** nasa wishes he could solve drdaz issue.... ** | |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | a faster CPU would help more |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got a 3500+ AMD in there and 2gb of ram |
| [23:22:00] | drdaz: | SlicerDicer: unless your machine is doing alot of read/write aside from myth, your drives wont be causing the lags |
| [23:22:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: what about your network.... |
| [23:22:00] | ** drdaz wishes nasa could solve it too :p ** | |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gigabit nasa |
| [23:22:00] | Pete_: | hmm, strange problems.. it says it has a lock, but no audio or video shows, then after a while I get a message, which I guess is an error but it has no text in it.. |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | ahh but is it a proper gigabit controller or one that steals PCI bus bandwidth? realtek controllers are bad for being bus hogs |
| [23:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: I am trying to get a idea of how I can speed it up when I start getting 500+ recordings |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | 500+ recordings? shit you need to watch more TV man |
| [23:23:00] | techgeek_us: | If I'm using the PVR-350 audio output, is it possible to multiplex the sound with other applications? |
| [23:23:00] | nasa: | So SlicerDicer: how many people will be accessing the recordings at the same time? |
| [23:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: I dunno I got 8 frontends right now lol |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I still need 3 more |
| [23:24:00] | Juski: | techgeek_us: in the mythtv FM it tells you to put the audio line output of the pvr350 into your soundcard's line input |
| [23:24:00] | drdaz: | ^^ |
| [23:24:00] | drdaz: | SlicerDicer: big family? oO |
| [23:24:00] | Juski: | big house?! |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | drdaz: alot of computers :) |
| [23:24:00] | drdaz: | lol |
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| [23:24:00] | Pete_: | any ideas? |
| [23:24:00] | drdaz: | is this one of those "because I can" things? |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm what do you mean? |
| [23:24:00] | laga: | techgeek_us: i don't think so. re-routing that input through your sound card may help |
| [23:25:00] | Juski: | Pete_: what says it's got a lock? what tuner? etc... |
| [23:25:00] | techgeek_us: | Juski: Yes, I do that and everything works fine, but I want to be able to play festival sounds at the same time live tv or a recording is playing. |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no I mean I wont get it if its not needed drdaz |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am just wondering if the raptor would speed it up |
| [23:25:00] | drdaz: | heh I'm picturing 11 PCs running frontends with nobody watching :) |
| [23:25:00] | techgeek_us: | laga: I am rerouting currently |
| [23:25:00] | scopeuk: | laga im having a problem with that method it jsut doesent record the sound |
| [23:25:00] | Juski: | techgeek_us: mythtv grabs the audio device, and er.. that's it AFAIK.. unless you use JACK |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the sql queries and make it load faster when I start getting a shitload of recordings on there |
| [23:25:00] | Pete_: | two wintv nova-t cards, but one is the old style and one is the new. It works in other dvb apps, mythtv is saying I have a lock on the onscreen output, but no video |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | drdaz: lol |
| [23:26:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: I would assume you are using raid arrays.... |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well drdaz if it makes you feel better 6 of them are setting at my desk :) |
| [23:26:00] | drdaz: | LOL |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | Pete_: you trying the same channels myth is trying in dvb apps? |
| [23:26:00] | drdaz: | well at least they're being watched then :p |
| [23:26:00] | Pete_: | Juski: yes, most channels do work, but in other apps all channels work |
| [23:26:00] | techgeek_us: | Juski, I've been playing around with dmix settings in .asoundrc. I also tried to define the audio device as ALSA:mixed-analog in mythfrontend, but then I got no sound at all in Myth |
| [23:26:00] | Pete_: | its this strange error where I get a blank message |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no nasa I am not at the moment |
| [23:27:00] | Juski: | Pete_: post the frontend verbose output and verbose output from the backend – it might help us see what's going on |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I only have 500gb for myth storage nasa |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but with how I compress things I can fit about 600 2 hour programs on that thing |
| [23:27:00] | Pete_: | do I need to start the backend with something else to get verbose, or is what it gives already enoyugh |
| [23:28:00] | Pete_: | enough* |
| [23:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | although all that changes when I start doing HDTV |
| [23:28:00] | Juski: | Pete_: stop the backend daemon & run it in a terminal with mythbackend -v all |
| [23:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: my main concern is I have talked to people that have around 300 recordings and the shit starts to slug up really badly cause it takes so long to query the database |
| [23:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: thats why I was asking if a raptor would help with that |
| [23:28:00] | nasa: | If I had infinite money, and a place where I could store my array (away from people) I would get multiple http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136011 of these |
| [23:29:00] | Pete_: | ok, Ill get some logs. Back in a bit |
| [23:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: haha I want that for my mainbox running XFS |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | SlicerDicer: I'm sure myth was designed to be scalable for a reason but you might be asking a bit much of it... |
| [23:29:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: give what you have described — a raid array look like it's in your future. So what ever drive you get now, plan for that. |
| [23:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: well I plan on getting rid of the IDE drives that I have currently and going SATA on all of them :) |
| [23:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I have to wait for the funds to work out to do it |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | not so much the amount of frontends, but the number of recordings... |
| [23:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | right Juski |
| [23:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean I can run all my frontends at once |
| [23:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no problem |
| [23:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have tested it I am just concerned about when I start to get over hundreds of programs |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | maybe there's some stuff you could do to improve the performance of the mysql server |
| [23:31:00] | ** nasa needs a new processor.... ** | |
| [23:31:00] | jmblack: | (speaking about what I do not know ;) And you cant tweak mysql to take more memory for prefetching? |
| [23:32:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: you mentioned that machine has 2 Gigs of ram.... |
| [23:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [23:33:00] | Juski: | AFAIK the DB usage code in myth is far from sloppy, so it won't be myth's fault all the queries are holding you up, necessarily |
| [23:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [23:33:00] | Pete_: | heres my frontend output : http://pastebin.com/574051 , just getting the backend |
| [23:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: well I mean I know myth is fast its very fast just I look at the query times on mythweb program listing and it makes me fear putting 100's of recordings on there |
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| [23:35:00] | Pete_: | and here is from the backend : http://pastebin.com/574054 |
| [23:35:00] | Pete_: | hmm I think it clipped some of it |
| [23:36:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: this drive will be only for managing the database? |
| [23:36:00] | jh81: | my ir blaster hardware was working on previous incarnation of this machine (prev version of myth) but having issues with the new install; was wondering if anyone knows of something else i need to change other than /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and /etc/modutils/lirc-ledxmit to have it use ttyS3 rather than ttyS1 |
| [23:36:00] | Pete_: | yeh, there is about ~2.5k lines |
| [23:36:00] | squish: | Juski, was that mythvideo installed by default in mythweb? |
| [23:37:00] | Juski: | squish: if mythvideo is installed, mythweb makes use of it |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: I was planning on having all but the massive storage on it |
| [23:37:00] | squish: | oh ok, thanks.... |
| [23:37:00] | Juski: | squish: same with mythmusic |
| [23:37:00] | ** squish goes to find out how to install mythvideo ** | |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: so all of the / would be on there but /myth/store etc would be on 7200 rpms |
| [23:38:00] | squish: | xris, u in the house? can i change my desctions of my channel numbers on mythweb? |
| [23:38:00] | Juski: | Pete_: I suspect that you're just another user having DVB headaches... did you upgrade from 0.18 or is 0.19 a fresh install? |
| [23:38:00] | Pete_: | Juski: fresh, although I did have to scan with 0.18 as 0.19 kept getting no tables, and reuse the database |
| [23:39:00] | Juski: | squish: you can edit channel details like xmltvid, ch numbers, freqids etc from mythweb |
| [23:39:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: so your basic requirements for size are already known, if the drive fits those requirements and its' noise won't be a bother — than from your description there's nothing else that would address your concerns. |
| [23:39:00] | Juski: | Pete_: there's been a lot of work going on in the DVB SIT/EIT parsers etc of late, because of various reasons... they might help you |
| [23:40:00] | Pete_: | Juski: http://88.111.164.70:85/mythbackend_log there is the full backend log |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | squish: huh? |
| [23:40:00] | Juski: | Pete_: can you show me the dtv_multiplex table ? |
| [23:40:00] | Pete_: | give me a sec |
| [23:40:00] | nasa: | as in more memory (most likely) won't help, a faster cpu won't help, your network seems maxed out — so guess the harddrive would be the next item |
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| [23:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe well I am not running into a bottleneck yet but I have heard of people that have |
| [23:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: I was just asking if that would work |
| [23:41:00] | Juski: | SlicerDicer-: maybe a better switch would help |
| [23:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | like I said I havent run into the issue yet |
| [23:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just like to plan ahead |
| [23:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [23:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | based on what other people I have spoken to have said :) |
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| [23:43:00] | Juski: | to hell with what anyone else says – YMMV ;) |
| [23:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | also the 37gb raptor has come down to a reasonable cost IMO so thats why I am considering it :) |
| [23:43:00] | Juski: | Pete_: looks like the streams you're getting on your channels are discontinuous |
| [23:43:00] | Pete_: | Juski: http://88.111.164.70:85/myth_log/dtv_multiplex.xml |
| [23:43:00] | Pete_: | oh, hmm |
| [23:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: aye heh |
| [23:44:00] | Pete_: | Juski: what is likely to be causing that? I can't do a totally fresh install of 0.19 as it won't scan properly |
| [23:44:00] | Juski: | Pete_: in dvb apps tzap, what kind of signal strength do you get? |
| [23:45:00] | Pete_: | Juski: give me a sec, Ill run it |
| [23:45:00] | nasa: | SlicerDicer: I haven't tried anything as ambitious as you — so I am at the end of my experience level now |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | not just that.. what are your BER etc? |
| [23:45:00] | Pete_: | what will I pass to tzap? |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | even if I had a frontend in every room, that'd just be erm... 6 frontends |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | Pete_: you must've run tzap before ;) |
| [23:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: well I am learning about the transcoding and now that I have learned about that I have learned how to manipulate the database "through a catastrophe I had 2 days ago" I feel pretty confident I can do some really cool things :) |
| [23:46:00] | Pete_: | its been a while |
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| [23:46:00] | Juski: | tzap "BBC ONE" -c ../uk-WinterHill/channels.conf – or something like that |
| [23:46:00] | drdaz: | Juski: what weather icons does ProjectGreyhem-wide use? |
| [23:46:00] | Juski: | noticed you're on Winter Hill – same tx as me |
| [23:47:00] | Juski: | drdaz: the standard ones AFAIK.. why? |
| [23:47:00] | drdaz: | heh I cant see any :) |
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| [23:47:00] | drdaz: | the standard theme being...? |
| [23:47:00] | Pete_: | Juski: no, im not on winterhill.. I should be on durris |
| [23:47:00] | drdaz: | see I upgraded to SVN today from rpms.. |
| [23:47:00] | Juski: | Pete_: you have a network ID of 9018 on your muxes |
| [23:47:00] | teevee (n=tv@c-69-244-43-245.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [23:47:00] | drdaz: | and in the process my weather icons have gone away |
| [23:47:00] | Juski: | drdaz: oops |
| [23:48:00] | Pete_: | well all I entered was a known frequency for my transmitter, and I got 0.18 to find other channels for me |
| [23:48:00] | drdaz: | I figure the nexessary theme has been wiped |
| [23:48:00] | Juski: | the themes all look in the default directory if you don't specify one in the theme |
| [23:49:00] | drdaz: | ok |
| [23:49:00] | drdaz: | I cant see any of the weather pngs in there I dont think |
| [23:49:00] | drdaz: | that might explain it |
| [23:49:00] | Juski: | Pete_: maybe the network ID field isn't tx specific... |
| [23:49:00] | Pete_: | Juski: I thought it was just multiplex specific, but Im not sure |
| [23:50:00] | Juski: | anyway.. you've got 2 identical muxes in there |
| [23:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nasa: wow I just realised http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136011 with window the cost differnece is huge |
| [23:50:00] | Juski: | PCs don't need Windows ;-) |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [23:51:00] | nasa: | lol |
| [23:51:00] | Pete_: | Juski: hmm, I guess I did that by mistake with the 2 cards |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: I dont understand why people would want a clear top on the hdd anyway |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its not like I am going to be looking at it spinning I will be looking at my monitor lol |
| [23:51:00] | Juski: | they need that, if they're ricers or something |
| [23:51:00] | Juski: | like go-faster LEDs |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh |
| [23:52:00] | Gumby: | does anyone here have a mythlink.sh file? I am trying to find one online but I cant seem to find one that works for me |
| [23:52:00] | drdaz: | heh fixed the icons :) |
| [23:52:00] | Juski: | Pete_: shouldn't be a problem having 2 muxes the same in the DB so long as both are correct ;) |
| [23:52:00] | Juski: | Gumby have you ever heard of www.google.com ? |
| [23:53:00] | Pete_: | ERROR: could not open file '/home/pete/.tzap/channels.conf' (No such file or directory) |
| [23:53:00] | Juski: | it'll prolly need fixed for 0.19 btw, Gumby |
| [23:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: hey dont knock the go-faster leds they do work! I have seen the light! har har ;-) |
| [23:53:00] | drdaz: | copied them from the mythplugins/mythweather/images source dir to /usr/share/mythtv/themes/default/ and now all is well |
| [23:53:00] | Gumby: | Juski: indeed I have. aparantly you cant read, "I am trying to find one online but cant seem to find one that works for me" |
| [23:53:00] | Juski: | Juski: it'll prolly need fixed for 0.19 btw, Gumby |
| [23:54:00] | Gumby: | hrm, well I cant code my way out of a wet paper bag. I'll have to try and struggle my way through it |
| [23:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Juski: I may just shift that partition over to XFS and see how that works out I am really liking what I hear about XFS |
| [23:55:00] | mlb (n=mlb@71-10-237-162.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
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| [23:55:00] | nasa: | drdaz: fixed icons — glad to hear it! |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | Gumby: I got this one – it was about the 3rd google hit or so... www.juski.co.uk/scripts/mythlink.sh |
| [23:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know cause I am not at that point yet haha |
| [23:55:00] | Gumby: | Juski: what were you googling? |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | mythlink |
| [23:56:00] | threat is now known as threat2 | |
| [23:56:00] | threat2 is now known as threat3 | |
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| [23:56:00] | Juski: | damn... can't find the original page I found it on now |
| [23:56:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [23:56:00] | Gumby: | lol |
| [23:56:00] | Pete_: | hmm.. its like one of my cards won't tune to some multiplexes |
| [23:57:00] | drdaz: | :) I'm gonna hit the sæk now.. l8r all |
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| [23:57:00] | nasa: | drdaz: later |
| [23:57:00] | drdaz (n=drdaz@212.242.226.63) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [23:58:00] | nasa: | So how much bandwith is needed to watch tv when the fe is seperated from the be? |
| [23:58:00] | Juski: | Pete_: that'd do it |
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| [23:59:00] | Pete_: | yes.. I think thats what it is. I have no idea why.. |
| [23:59:00] | Juski: | Pete_: I can only run two tuners from one aerial feed – maybe one of your tuners is less sensitive than the other – try swapping the aerial connections around |
| [23:59:00] | Pete_: | Juski: I was just thinking that |
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