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| [00:00:00] | Kallie: | //////////////////////////744444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444 44444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444 4444444444444444444444444444444477.709999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 |
| [00:00:00] | Kallie: | 3333333333++++++++ |
| [00:00:00] | Kallie: | iiiiiiiii? |
| [00:00:00] | Kallie: | = |
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| [00:01:00] | ** laga coughs ** | |
| [00:01:00] | DreadPirateBob: | cat prancing on the keyboard? |
| [00:01:00] | laga: | is that utf-8? |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | laga, no, it's not |
| [00:01:00] | Jasper: | hehe, always fun to browse old pictures :P |
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| [00:11:00] | mythmonkey: | Any more suggestions then guys? |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper: | not me...am unable to browse the menu's (recompiling) |
| [00:12:00] | mythmonkey: | I think Juski_ must of retired for the evening. I will see if I can catch him tomorrow... he said he might of had something else to try earlier on tonight... |
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| [00:23:00] | Jasper: | ok |
| [00:23:00] | Jasper: | this was a bad idea |
| [00:23:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [00:28:00] | msh_: | hi |
| [00:28:00] | msh_: | does anyone here use a wintv pci card? |
| [00:28:00] | phar0e: | cryyy, I need firewire |
| [00:29:00] | scopeuk: | msh_ yes and no |
| [00:29:00] | scopeuk: | i use one but ive nto had too much look with myth in general |
| [00:30:00] | msh_: | too much luck you mean? |
| [00:33:00] | msh_: | hmm |
| [00:33:00] | msh_: | ok |
| [00:33:00] | msh_: | well |
| [00:33:00] | msh_: | today, i customer of mine gave me a "WinTV" tv tuner card |
| [00:33:00] | msh_: | i was just wondering if there were some good docs on it |
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| [00:34:00] | scopeuk: | depeands and yes i did mean luck |
| [00:34:00] | scopeuk: | depends which win tv card |
| [00:34:00] | scopeuk: | mine is several years old |
| [00:34:00] | mythmonkey: | msh_: try this http://www.hauppauge.com/html/linux.htm |
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| [00:35:00] | scopeuk: | orig bt867 type |
| [00:35:00] | mythmonkey: | TV Time is the easiest way to see if yout tv card is workin IMHO |
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| [00:37:00] | scopeuk: | mine works fine in xaw tv and it did work oncein myth |
| [00:37:00] | scopeuk: | then it lost the channel froze up and never atuned correcltly again |
| [00:39:00] | msh_: | ok |
| [00:39:00] | msh_: | mine from 1998 |
| [00:39:00] | msh_: | i thinks its a bt 8 something |
| [00:39:00] | msh_: | 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:39:00] | msh_: | 0000:00:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:39:00] | msh_: | there it is |
| [00:40:00] | mythmonkey: | msh_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Video_capture_card |
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| [00:41:00] | msh_: | ok |
| [00:41:00] | msh_: | thanks |
| [00:42:00] | scopeuk: | msh_ shounds very much like mine |
| [00:45:00] | scopeuk: | one thing to point out that is probably documented any way is that you have to take audio from the line out to the line in on your sound card |
| [00:45:00] | scopeuk: | there is no onboard capture |
| [00:45:00] | msh_: | hmm |
| [00:45:00] | msh_: | so like |
| [00:45:00] | msh_: | 19:39 < msh_> 0000:00:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:46:00] | msh_: | then what is that |
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| [00:46:00] | scopeuk: | thats the chipset |
| [00:46:00] | msh_: | no |
| [00:46:00] | msh_: | look |
| [00:46:00] | scopeuk: | its an early haupauge wintv tuner |
| [00:46:00] | msh_: | Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:46:00] | msh_: | it has audio capture |
| [00:46:00] | scopeuk: | yeh mine says that toothere is no capture device |
| [00:47:00] | scopeuk: | it says so |
| [00:47:00] | msh_: | i see |
| [00:47:00] | scopeuk: | it can mix tv with its own line in |
| [00:47:00] | scopeuk: | maby its somethign to do with that |
| [00:47:00] | scopeuk: | i played iwith it in windows for a quit a while |
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| [00:53:00] | Tall-guy: | Hey dudes, long time no lurk. |
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| [01:09:00] | Gumby: | man, I missed a pvr 150 that went for $15 + $10 shipping (CAD) on ebay two days ago. What a piss off |
| [01:09:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:10:00] | scopeuk: | hm thats a though |
| [01:10:00] | scopeuk: | any one knwo what pvr 350's go for on ebay? |
| [01:11:00] | Gumby: | www.ebay.com might |
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| [01:12:00] | scopeuk: | im thinking .co.uk sdince im in the uk |
| [01:12:00] | scopeuk: | but it usualy doesent give you prievious finishing prices |
| [01:12:00] | Servo888: | Question... It looks like many pvr's, such as tivo, and Windows media recorder, are now restricting as to what you can record (IE: HBO shows). Whill this type of censorship hit mythtv? |
| [01:12:00] | scopeuk: | Servo888 i doubt it |
| [01:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course not |
| [01:13:00] | ** scopeuk is glad to hear it ** | |
| [01:13:00] | Manolis: | Is there even a tv card that can pickup high numbered cable channels? |
| [01:15:00] | Servo888: | might be... But in general you always have the option of using a cable box, and some analog input |
| [01:15:00] | scopeuk: | or firewire (if hd) |
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| [01:21:00] | scopeuk: | any one using anything liek this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hauppauge-WinTV-CI-Comm . . . cmdZViewItem with or outside mythtv |
| [01:21:00] | Manolis: | I keep hearing something about a "cable card" – is that a TV card that could possible use high channels? |
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| [01:23:00] | sphing: | is there a way to forward X so that mythtv-setup will work through ssh |
| [01:24:00] | Kel-kippin: | probably.. dunno how to do it though |
| [01:24:00] | Kel-kippin is now known as Kelerion | |
| [01:24:00] | scopeuk: | iirc it is possible to redirect x and therefore whould be possible to divert it thrgoh ssh but as to acctually doing it |
| [01:24:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_card |
| [01:24:00] | scopeuk: | it can be done |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | sphing: ssh -X will forward X11 stuff |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | sphing: needs to be enabled server side of course |
| [01:25:00] | sphing: | hmm... maybe thats it, thought i thought it was |
| [01:25:00] | paulc37: | Question: Some of my recordings are not starting until I restart the backend. It appears to be some sort of MySQL error. I'm using the latest MythTV 0.19 and MySQL using Debian unstable. Is there a known problem? |
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| [01:26:00] | paulc37: | Just did an upgrade and noticed that MySQL was updated, so hoping there was some kind of bug that just got fixed. Anyone know? Searched the archives, but can't find anything |
| [01:26:00] | Juski_: | scopeuk: you'll prolly get more than you originally paid for your pvr350 (unless you bought it on Ebay) |
| [01:26:00] | xanderp: | anyone here using an epia board's onboard unichrome output for tv? mine looks like total crap and I don't know how to fix it. |
| [01:27:00] | sphing: | Agrajag-: sure enough you're right |
| [01:27:00] | sphing: | thanks |
| [01:27:00] | Juski_: | xanderp: describe "total crap" ... |
| [01:27:00] | Manolis: | Thanks ip_goat_rodeo – not quite the cable ready pci card that I had invisioned |
| [01:27:00] | scopeuk: | Juski_ ifonly i had one to sell |
| [01:28:00] | paulc37: | MythTV / MySQL Debian unstable: Anyone have problems with recordings not starting??? |
| [01:28:00] | xanderp: | the picture looks very distorted in color as well as crispness. |
| [01:28:00] | Juski_: | scopeuk: hell, don't buy a Hauppauge tuner on the fleabay |
| [01:28:00] | scopeuk: | i dotn have the cash to buy a tuner fatm i dont think |
| [01:28:00] | Juski_: | xanderp: mine looks good here. you PAL or NTSC ? |
| [01:29:00] | xanderp: | but only in graphical modes. i'm using a high res console on boot up and that looks awesome, so it appears to be a X driver issue. |
| [01:29:00] | Manolis: | paulc37: nope, running Debian unstable and 19 MySql 5.0.18–7 |
| [01:29:00] | xanderp: | NTSC |
| [01:29:00] | scopeuk: | never the same color twice |
| [01:29:00] | ** scopeuk lieks this game ** | |
| [01:29:00] | Juski_: | xanderp: I got my xorg.conf here: www.juski.co.uk/xorg.conf |
| [01:29:00] | Manolis: | paulc37: I do notice a slight delay when deleting a recorded show though |
| [01:29:00] | xanderp: | will check it out... thanks! |
| [01:29:00] | paulc37: | Manolis: I just did another upgrade now and see mysql server was upgraded... |
| [01:30:00] | paulc37: | but don't know if that was the problem |
| [01:30:00] | Juski_: | xanderp: mine's set for PAL but uncomment the right lines & you'll be good to give it a try |
| [01:30:00] | paulc37: | Some of my recordings work...but others don't and don't know why |
| [01:30:00] | xanderp: | will do. can't hurt! :) |
| [01:30:00] | Manolis: | paulc37: I suspect the delay when deleting is due to MySQL 5.0.18–7 |
| [01:30:00] | paulc37: | I'm not worried about the delay |
| [01:31:00] | paulc37: | I'm getting lines written to my mythtv log constantly now too |
| [01:31:00] | Juski_: | xanderp: there are a bunch of lines which deal with features of the TV encoder, dotcrawl being one of them... you can try them out aswell, but be careful |
| [01:31:00] | xanderp: | off to try Juski_ 's xorg.conf wish me luck! |
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| [01:32:00] | scopeuk: | whyed he go ofline to edit a config on his myth box/reada website |
| [01:33:00] | scopeuk: | spose he could be ircing on his myth bow |
| [01:33:00] | scopeuk: | box* |
| [01:33:00] | Juski_: | maybe xchatting on his telly |
| [01:33:00] | scopeuk: | ^^ |
| [01:33:00] | nasa: | I would like to run nvidia-settings so I can fix my tv-out. I have tried several versions of "nvidia-settings --ctrl-display=:0" all return a "refused by server error" (btw I login via ssh). I can startup a vncserver, but that's the wrong displa y (:1 vs :0). When I try x11vnc I get "refused by server errors". Doing "xhost +" doesn't help. And I tried suggestions from http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=x11vncHowTo with n |
| [01:33:00] | nasa: | o love |
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| [01:34:00] | Kelerion: | nasa.. still??? you were doing this this time last night! |
| [01:34:00] | ** nasa is really slow.... ** | |
| [01:35:00] | nasa: | Plus I have a day job. |
| [01:35:00] | Juski_: | hiya Kelerion. how's it going? |
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| [01:35:00] | Kelerion: | stick with x11vnc.. it really is what you want... and btw.. why aren't you just doing this directly on your myth box? |
| [01:35:00] | Kelerion: | hey Juski :) not bad thanks .. you? |
| [01:35:00] | scopeuk: | argh the mesenger isms |
| [01:35:00] | scopeuk: | noo |
| [01:35:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. only 4 months to go or so! |
| [01:35:00] | ** scopeuk hides behind the sofa ** | |
| [01:35:00] | Juski_: | not bad. still not booked my hotelroom for lugradio live yet |
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| [01:36:00] | Jasper: | ;p |
| [01:36:00] | nasa: | Kelerion: I don't know how to get both nvidia-settings showing and liveTV going at the same time so I can watch how the changes work... |
| [01:36:00] | Kelerion: | me either.. I did book it last year.. but couldn't make it. .was gutted.. am definately getting there this year though.. looked like a real laugh |
| [01:37:00] | Kelerion: | nasa: run nvidia-settings.. run myth.. then livetv.. then ALT+TAB |
| [01:37:00] | Juski_: | more of a laugh than the radio shows I hope. I've tried listening to them, no offence, but they erm... well I'm not a huge fan I have to confess |
| [01:37:00] | Jasper: | anyone here accidentaly knows where xorg -configure gets its lists of modules from? |
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| [01:37:00] | nasa: | Do ratposion's key commands work when mythtv is up and running? |
| [01:38:00] | Juski_: | Jasper: I accidentally know lots of things, but not that ;-) |
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| [01:38:00] | Kelerion: | nasa – no idea |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | hehe Juski_ after I managed to get xvmc working I decided to downgrade to a older version of nvidia |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | but now the whole of x doesn't start anymore.. |
| [01:38:00] | Juski_: | Jasper: WHY?!?!?! |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | guess it wasn't smart |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:38:00] | ** nasa off to give it a try... ** | |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | well...I can always go back |
| [01:39:00] | Kelerion: | "if it ain't broke – keep messing with it till it is" syndrome? I suffer from it too |
| [01:39:00] | Juski_: | Jasper: fucking hell man after what you've been through, what did you learn? |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | just wanted to go with the recomended driver |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | Juski_ never change a winning team ? :P |
| [01:39:00] | Juski_: | what 'recommended driver' ? |
| [01:39:00] | Juski_: | if it works, sod it ! |
| [01:39:00] | scopeuk: | heh i should rearly take some of the general advice that comes out of the channel |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | well...but the problem aint that big at the moment |
| [01:40:00] | Jasper: | it's just that Xorg is for some reason loading the nvidia module twice.. |
| [01:40:00] | Jasper: | first time it succeeds...second time it fails. |
| [01:40:00] | Juski_: | to hell with what nvidia recommend anyway.. they'd have us all buy some mad £350 cards just to use TV-out |
| [01:40:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [01:41:00] | Jasper: | ;p |
| [01:41:00] | Juski_: | marketing drives too much in the way of sales rather than necessity these days |
| [01:41:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. my wife would love you.. really.. she gets pissed at me messing things up just because I'm curious about something new.. lol |
| [01:42:00] | Juski_: | Kelerion: my wife's initial impression of the 0.19 minimyth weren't good.. she spotted things I didn't even notice at first |
| [01:42:00] | Kelerion: | oh? whats wrong with it? |
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| [01:43:00] | Juski_: | "what the fuck are those green lines at the bottom of the screen? why's the sound not right?". lucky they were minor tweaks |
| [01:43:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [01:43:00] | Juski_: | "the old one seemed to work better" |
| [01:43:00] | lightx: | im getting QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query and then MySQL server has gone away ... when i try to schedule a recording, any idea why? |
| [01:43:00] | Juski_: | WAF now in positive numbers thanks to my graft.. she deleted her own recordings tonight :-) |
| [01:44:00] | Agrajag-: | lightx: have you actually read that error message or did you just go "oh no, an error, what shall i do?" |
| [01:44:00] | lightx: | mysql is running |
| [01:44:00] | Kelerion: | my WAF goes up and down week to week.. depending on whether I'm bored and want to mess about.. lol |
| [01:44:00] | Juski_: | MYSQL error? better upgrade MYSQL ! |
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| [01:44:00] | lightx: | i can connect to the database no problem |
| [01:44:00] | Juski_: | er.. what mysql version are you running? |
| [01:45:00] | lightx: | mysql Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.18, for slackware-linux-gnu (i486) using EditLine wrapper |
| [01:45:00] | xris: | ok, why can't I find the mythweb ticket that talks about future shows being marked as previously recorded? |
| [01:45:00] | Juski_: | so it's mysql5 eh... though 5 should be ok with 0.19 I think |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | aha, found it. |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | Juski_: should be, yes |
| [01:47:00] | lightx: | so.. ? ! any thoughts? |
| [01:49:00] | paulc37: | LightX: I had that problem but after upgrading MythTV to 0.19 (or CVS before) fixed it. What version of MythTV |
| [01:49:00] | lightx: | 0.19 |
| [01:49:00] | paulc37: | There was a MythTV / MySQL incompatability |
| [01:50:00] | paulc37: | mind you, I'm still hvaing problems, albeit different ones...some of my recording aren't kicking off because there are no recordings listed (which must be a problem communicating with MySQL as well) |
| [01:50:00] | dev-: | i heard that mysql5 and myth still cause problems, after its been up/idle for a while |
| [01:50:00] | paulc37: | LightX: There also was the "Old" password problem, but I'm not sure if that is relevant anyway |
| [01:50:00] | lightx: | you running slackware? |
| [01:50:00] | Manolis: | lightx: I had to enable this to get MythTV to work with MySQL 5 |
| [01:50:00] | Manolis: | old_passwords = 1 |
| [01:50:00] | Manolis: | lightx: that's in the my.cnf |
| [01:50:00] | paulc37: | Ah.....dev- thanks. Have you heard of my problem? i.e. The communicationg breaking down like that? |
| [01:51:00] | dev-: | Manolis: no problems with mysql5 after its been up for a while? |
| [01:51:00] | lightx: | Manolis: thanks, ill try that |
| [01:51:00] | Juski_: | btw Kelerion: this thing about me messing with stuff – I like to mess, but not if it's gonna cause me too much work. I'd miss mythtv if I couldn't just dip into it whenever I want – it took guts to upgrade it last week.. now I'm in what they must call the 'comfort zone' ;-) |
| [01:51:00] | paulc37: | LightX, that's probably it, I made the adjustment manually |
| [01:51:00] | Manolis: | dev- no, not at all |
| [01:51:00] | paulc37: | dev-, have you had problems yourself, or just heard about it? |
| [01:52:00] | dev-: | heard about it from a developer. |
| [01:52:00] | paulc37: | oh..that sounds reliable, ok I feel better. Posted to mythtv-users mail list so I"m sure I'll get a replay if I"m not the only one |
| [01:52:00] | dev-: | if i remember correctly, said that mythbackend eventually loses connection with mysql and cant reestablish without being restarted. |
| [01:53:00] | paulc37: | That's what it looks like is happening to me..Manolis, I can't believe you're not having that problem! |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | she does have a valid argument, i must admit, i have enough spare machines to mess with them instead of my backends and frontends.. but it's just not the same.. lol |
| [01:54:00] | lightx: | Manolis: that did the trick! |
| [01:54:00] | ** Manolis can't believe he actually got one right! ** | |
| [01:54:00] | lightx: | actually |
| [01:54:00] | lightx: | i restarted mythbackend too |
| [01:54:00] | lightx: | so.. |
| [01:55:00] | xris: | rtsai: you around? |
| [01:55:00] | scopeuk: | Kelerion i cant even get one of my "spare" machines to work as a ackend how crap am i |
| [01:55:00] | Manolis: | lightx: take you could verify by taking it out of my.cnf again |
| [01:55:00] | lightx: | Manolis: true, let me try |
| [01:56:00] | Kelerion: | scopeuk, why not? |
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| [01:57:00] | lightx: | Manolis: i removed old_password and its showing the recording, no mysql errors but, that doesnt mean the old_password trick is not good |
| [01:57:00] | Juski_: | scopeuk: it might have more to do with the fact your machines are like steam powered compared to what can comfortably run mythtv ;-) |
| [01:57:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [01:58:00] | scopeuk: | Juski_ hence "spare" and im sure some of mine are powered by water wheels |
| [01:58:00] | Kelerion: | that *might* have something to do with it |
| [01:58:00] | scopeuk: | who needs a comfort zone |
| [01:58:00] | scopeuk: | a 433 system should be blet to handle backend only |
| [01:58:00] | Kelerion: | guys with wives need comfort zones.. lol |
| [01:58:00] | scopeuk: | it as only hiting 50% cpu when recording |
| [01:58:00] | Juski_: | comfort zones come with married territory |
| [01:59:00] | scopeuk: | klerion im 18 |
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| [01:59:00] | scopeuk: | im in the playing stage |
| [01:59:00] | scopeuk: | findign a box for front end hasent even been solved yet |
| [01:59:00] | Juski_: | when you've been made redundant twice in your working life you need a work comfort zone too ;-) |
| [01:59:00] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [01:59:00] | scopeuk: | i havent had my first real job yet |
| [02:00:00] | Kelerion: | I decided being self-employed worked best for me.. I'd have to be *really* pissed with myself to sack myself |
| [02:00:00] | scopeuk: | im considering seting up my main box as a dual boot myth unit unfurtunately when i use it is when i want to be recording |
| [02:00:00] | scopeuk: | Kelerion heh im sure i could get there with myself |
| [02:01:00] | scopeuk: | after apending 4 -6 hours debuging some basic action script only to find i missed an under score |
| [02:01:00] | rtsai: | xris: here |
| [02:02:00] | xris: | rtsai: dunno what your patch in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1293 is doing.. though I think my last commit should have fixed the issue |
| [02:02:00] | Jasper: | huhu |
| [02:02:00] | Jasper: | this is interesting Juski_ :P with the older driver doesn't recognise my card as being a 6200 just NV44 |
| [02:03:00] | rtsai: | I was pretty sure the last patch wouldn't fix his problem. But it was a shot. It keeps autoexpired stuff from showing up as 'recorded' (really, I want the boxes to mean "watched", but "recorded" is the only thing we have). |
| [02:03:00] | squish102: | hello all, can any1 give me an idea where to look to fix a pvr 150 that records with a black bar running down the left side of a recording about 1/16th of the picture |
| [02:04:00] | rtsai: | it mimics the logic in ProgramInfo::ForgetHistory, so I thought it would be appropriate, in any case. |
| [02:04:00] | squish102: | even when i do mythburn, it is still there |
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| [02:04:00] | squish102: | or view the icon on mythweb |
| [02:04:00] | xris: | rtsai: you still want me to commit it? auto-expired stuff *is* recorded.. and in fact often watched... |
| [02:04:00] | Jasper: | isn't it just overscan? |
| [02:05:00] | Jasper: | or the lack of it |
| [02:05:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [02:05:00] | squish102: | when i bring up the OSD it is over into the black bar |
| [02:05:00] | rtsai: | xris: yeah that's your call. I tend to delete stuff after watching it. |
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| [02:05:00] | squish102: | i have my record set on 720 x 480 |
| [02:05:00] | rtsai: | i guess you should leave it out |
| [02:05:00] | rtsai: | least confusion |
| [02:06:00] | xris: | I think it's best to leave it as it is for now, but think about a "watched" flag for the future (though that's hard — is 75% "watched" or what about 50%, etc) |
| [02:06:00] | rtsai: | My problem is that I have tons of stuff at low priority that gets autoexpired without ever getting watched (Conan, Dave, etc.), so I don't want those to clutter up my listings as being 'watched'. |
| [02:06:00] | rtsai: | i agree; leave that #1293 oldrecorded.duplicate patch out :). |
| [02:07:00] | squish102: | and strange thing is i didnt have it with 0.18 only in 0.19 |
| [02:07:00] | rtsai: | I think a "watched" flag might simply be whether or not the user got to the end of the recording (e.g., mythtv appears to also clear bookmarks if the end of a recording is reached) |
| [02:07:00] | squish102: | and looked in mailing lists and no1 seems to have the problem |
| [02:07:00] | rtsai: | but that's another discussion :) |
| [02:09:00] | briand: | rtsai: does your patch address how to handle shows such as news, news magazines, soap operas, etc that are 99% of the time new programming, but the schedule shows their premiere date as "original airdate" so they erroneously show as "reruns" and/or "previously recorded" |
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| [02:10:00] | chuckyp: | Is there a way to install just the frontend |
| [02:11:00] | eidolon: | sure, use a frontend cd. |
| [02:11:00] | kormoc: | chuckyp, sure, delete mythbackend after you install it |
| [02:11:00] | eidolon: | hah |
| [02:11:00] | scottder: | Anyone use the DVD ripping feature? |
| [02:11:00] | kormoc: | chuckyp, which would save you a entire 692k of space |
| [02:11:00] | eidolon: | i've never actually gotten it working. |
| [02:11:00] | eidolon: | (the dvd ripping) |
| [02:12:00] | Kelerion: | "./configure --disable-backend" |
| [02:12:00] | scottder: | Just curious how well it would work on a 1ghz system |
| [02:12:00] | Jasper: | hmm where is the moduledb stored? :P |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, as Issac has said many times, that is a development feature to help with porting and shouldn't ever be used on a live install, as it may break things |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, depends on your distro |
| [02:13:00] | Jasper: | gentoo |
| [02:13:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [02:13:00] | Kelerion: | ahh. .okies.. not heard that.. just ignore me :) |
| [02:13:00] | chuckyp: | kormoc, so just install the entire package and just run the frontend setup |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, /var/lib/module-rebuild/moduledb |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | chuckyp, that's the usual way, aye |
| [02:14:00] | Manolis: | scottder: 1Ghz should work fine |
| [02:14:00] | chuckyp: | kormoc, gotcha thanks |
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| [02:15:00] | Jasper: | kormoc you use gentoo? |
| [02:15:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, yes |
| [02:15:00] | Jasper: | do you have any clue why a module could get loaded twice in xorg? |
| [02:15:00] | xris: | kormoc is a gentoo junkie |
| [02:16:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/Xorg.0.log <-- this shows Xorg -configure ...it tries to load nvidia twice |
| [02:16:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, xorg modules are very different then kernel modules. Depending on your xorg config, you can use a module many times |
| [02:16:00] | Jasper: | yeah but the nvidia module it loads fails the second time |
| [02:16:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, what videocard do you have? |
| [02:17:00] | Jasper: | 6200 |
| [02:17:00] | Jasper: | it's just weird that the nvidia is in the list twice isn't it? |
| [02:17:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, what did you use to create the xorg.conf? |
| [02:17:00] | Jasper: | kormoc I don't have a xorg.conf at the moment |
| [02:17:00] | Jasper: | the log you see is of Xorg -configure |
| [02:18:00] | scottder: | Manolis: thanks :) |
| [02:18:00] | ** Juski_ hates unsolicited PMs, Manolis ** | |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, ahh, well, your nvidia card has two outputs, or also known as dual heads. Each head can use the nvidia module, and thus the two listed |
| [02:18:00] | Beirdo: | no soliciting here :) |
| [02:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:19:00] | Manolis: | scottder: than an nVidia card in it and you're set |
| [02:19:00] | scopeuk: | http://www.aldi.co.uk/special_buys/product_861.html if only i had tat sort of money to spare |
| [02:19:00] | Jasper: | hmm k kormoc but do you have any idea whyh it fials the second time loading ? |
| [02:19:00] | Manolis: | Juski_ ok fuck you too then |
| [02:19:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, not off hand, dmesg might give hints to that |
| [02:19:00] | Juski_: | Manolis: wow you really have a way with words :) |
| [02:20:00] | kormoc: | Manolis, please be a bit nicer |
| [02:20:00] | Beirdo: | Manolis needs a lesson in behaving, it seems |
| [02:20:00] | Juski_: | it's generally considered to be _bad_ etiquette PM'ing people you don't know without asking first |
| [02:20:00] | scottder: | Manolis: I bought an FX5200 just for my MythTV box :) |
| [02:21:00] | Manolis: | it's either that or get flamed for off-topic questions in the forum |
| [02:21:00] | scottder: | Myth is already up and running...thinking of picking up an inexpensive DVD burner |
| [02:21:00] | Jasper: | yeah kormoc the weird thing is though that the drivers seem to work just fine :P |
| [02:21:00] | kormoc: | Manolis, you can talk in the channel, or ask Juski_ first if he would mind talking in private. |
| [02:21:00] | Juski_: | Manolis... what? we go off topic in here loads and nobody blows their stack about it |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, it could just be a bug with the order xorg's configurer trys loading things |
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| [02:22:00] | Jasper: | I WISH I never downgraded |
| [02:22:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, if it keeps happening when you have a xorg.conf then you should start looking into it :P |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [02:22:00] | Jasper: | well it does happen with a xorg.conf |
| [02:22:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [02:22:00] | FOAMERtailgrep: | how can one FORCE alsa to save you damn mixer settings? |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [02:22:00] | Jasper: | it says no screen found kormoc |
| [02:22:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, got a link to the xorg.conf and the log that goes with it? |
| [02:23:00] | Jasper: | the only thing I did was downgrade |
| [02:23:00] | Agrajag-: | FOAMERtailgrep: i think you want #alsa ? |
| [02:23:00] | FOAMERtailgrep: | that's convenient. |
| [02:23:00] | FOAMERtailgrep: | thanks. |
| [02:23:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/backup <-- that's the Xorg.conf |
| [02:23:00] | Juski_: | Jasper: 'I only pulled the trigger' ;-) |
| [02:23:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [02:23:00] | briand: | FOAMERtailgrep: ever heard of `/usr/sbin/alsactl store` ? |
| [02:24:00] | FOAMERtailgrep: | YES |
| [02:24:00] | FOAMERtailgrep: | i'm not a moron |
| [02:24:00] | FOAMERtailgrep: | so don't treat users that way |
| [02:24:00] | briand: | ah, okay. then you're question was rhetorical. |
| [02:24:00] | ** Kelerion just shakes his head ** | |
| [02:25:00] | kormoc: | FOAMERtailgrep, /usr/sbin/alsactl store *is* the way to force it to store your mixer levels |
| [02:25:00] | scopeuk: | FOAMERtailgrep they have to spend too much time dealing with people suchas myself that spend 90% + of the time clueless |
| [02:25:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, got the xorg.log that goes with that? |
| [02:25:00] | Agrajag-: | FOAMERtailgrep: well you definately need to improve you question asking skills then |
| [02:25:00] | briand: | scopeuk: no, you ask questions that you *don't* know the answers to, and you listen to the answers given. :) |
| [02:25:00] | scopeuk: | ok fair enough |
| [02:25:00] | Jasper: | trying to create one over ssh kormoc :P |
| [02:25:00] | briand: | scopeuk: so there's no problem there. :) |
| [02:26:00] | Juski_: | also helps to ask questions more likely to get answers rather than the likes of "is anyone here using mythtv?" |
| [02:26:00] | scopeuk: | however what is curently a problem is there are bits of pc all over the floor and when i turn off the light and atempt to get to my bed im going to become injured |
| [02:26:00] | ** briand snickers @ Juski_ ** | |
| [02:26:00] | Kelerion: | scopeuk, plus we're british – it's generally understood people need more patience with us :P |
| [02:27:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/Xorg.0.log kormoc |
| [02:27:00] | scopeuk: | yeh were non native american speakers :grin: |
| [02:27:00] | briand: | Kelerion: if you become a doctor, you'll gain more patients. |
| [02:27:00] | Juski_: | was it a British user who phoned Dell to say their cup holder had broken? ;-) |
| [02:27:00] | briand: | Juski_: the coffee cup tray, you mean? |
| [02:27:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. lol |
| [02:28:00] | briand: | urban legend.. but funny, nonetheless. |
| [02:28:00] | scopeuk: | best invention ever |
| [02:28:00] | scopeuk: | it was ona british advert and i know a user who did it |
| [02:28:00] | xris: | anyone else find that the trac server is incredibly slow? |
| [02:28:00] | scopeuk: | jsut the right size for coke cans :D |
| [02:28:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah xris |
| [02:28:00] | Juski_: | was it? yikes. I take it all back then :) |
| [02:28:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: ok, glad it's not just me |
| [02:28:00] | scopeuk: | what part of it xris it seams to work fine for browsign tickets ect |
| [02:28:00] | briand: | xris: it was very sluggish the other night... haven't been on there since then... i just assumed it was always that way. |
| [02:29:00] | Kelerion: | was also a british user that couldn't get his 5 1/4 inch floppy in his drive so folded it in half so it'd fit his 3 1/2 drive..then called to ask why it wasn't working |
| [02:29:00] | ** scopeuk is probably just use to crap connection speeeds ** | |
| [02:29:00] | xris: | briand: no, usually it's blazing fast |
| [02:29:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [02:29:00] | xris: | load average is over 2 |
| [02:29:00] | briand: | Kelerion: well, i was working technical support when a user couldn't get disk #3 (of 27!!) in the drive during the install... |
| [02:30:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [02:30:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, |
| [02:30:00] | kormoc: | Xorg is not able to detect your mouse |
| [02:30:00] | briand: | ...we amended the installation program to prompt them to _remove_ disk #x and then insert disk #y |
| [02:30:00] | scopeuk: | any one here read userfriendly? |
| [02:30:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, set the moust protocol from auto to ImPS/2 |
| [02:30:00] | briand: | (true story – Enable Software, Inc. circa 1989–1990) |
| [02:30:00] | kormoc: | scopeuk, of course :P |
| [02:30:00] | briand: | scopeuk: occasionally, yes. |
| [02:30:00] | scopeuk: | gonna say there fairly good for this sort of thing |
| [02:31:00] | scopeuk: | there is also www.jituonline.freeservers.com (caution popup blocker required) |
| [02:31:00] | Jasper: | ok kormoc, you really think that's the problem ? :p |
| [02:31:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, look at the last lines of your log file |
| [02:31:00] | Jasper: | what to see? |
| [02:32:00] | scopeuk: | http://www.jituonline.freeservers.com/images/e24.gif one of my personal favorites |
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| [02:32:00] | danq: | Hi. |
| [02:32:00] | briand: | danq: I am not. My eyes are always that color. |
| [02:32:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, where it says "Xorg is not able to detect your mouse" |
| [02:32:00] | danq: | I've got very limited experience with MythTV -in fact I'm installing it for the first time tonight – but I was wondering if there was any way to make it so that I can have my own series of MythTV set-top boxes for all the TV's in my house |
| [02:32:00] | Jasper: | are we both using the same log file kormoc ? |
| [02:32:00] | scopeuk: | danq yes |
| [02:33:00] | danq: | So I'd be able to do my own videos on demand, set my own cable TV channels, all that neat stuff. |
| [02:33:00] | scopeuk: | you can have as many front ends / backends as you like |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/Xorg.0.log? |
| [02:33:00] | Jasper: | I think you should reload it maybe |
| [02:33:00] | danq: | Really now. |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, ooh... right |
| [02:33:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [02:33:00] | briand: | scopeuk: how about the one given to us by none other than IBM? IBM PC and PC-XT both had BIOS errors that read: "Keyboard Error: Press F1 to continue." |
| [02:33:00] | ** kormoc refreshes ** | |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, modprobe nvidia |
| [02:33:00] | scopeuk: | briand most computers still do in my experience |
| [02:33:00] | scopeuk: | so did windows 95 |
| [02:33:00] | Jasper: | and then kormoc ? |
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| [02:34:00] | Juski_: | nice erm.. windows error diaglog box: http://www.jituonline.freeservers.com/images/e40.gif |
| [02:34:00] | briand: | scopeuk: yes, but not when the "Keyboard Error" in question is that there is no keyboard. ;) |
| [02:34:00] | kormoc: | scopeuk, it's a bios thing, not a os thing |
| [02:34:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, startx |
| [02:34:00] | danq: | I want a "mythtv network" in my house. I don't want any of the TVs receiving a regualar cable TV system. I want special channels, like channels 100+, to be playing on-demand movies which are stored on disk, etc etc. |
| [02:34:00] | briand: | danq: go for it. |
| [02:34:00] | kormoc: | danq, yes, you can have multiple frontneds for myth no problemo |
| [02:34:00] | Jasper: | still the same error kormoc |
| [02:34:00] | Jasper: | for some reason it's failing to load the module.. |
| [02:34:00] | danq: | Excellent. |
| [02:34:00] | scopeuk: | i am aware you were talkign about at bios level but i jsut felt that it was apt that windows did it also and yes my pc if bootedwithout a keyboard tellsme keyboard not detected press f1 to continue |
| [02:34:00] | danq: | Again, sorry for asking what might appear to be a dumb question. |
| [02:35:00] | danq: | I don't have much experience with MythTV just yet. |
| [02:35:00] | danq: | Ultimately I'd like to be able to stream from my house to, say – work. |
| [02:35:00] | danq: | heh |
| [02:35:00] | danq: | Because, well, I'm a slacker. |
| [02:35:00] | Jasper: | could it be a problem that I use nvidia-kernel- r1 and nvidia-glx r2 kormoc ? |
| [02:35:00] | briand: | dunno how your work IT department will like that... but, sure why not? |
| [02:35:00] | Juski_: | danq: I hope you have a fat pipe |
| [02:35:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, as long as the major version is the same, shouldn't be, no |
| [02:35:00] | scopeuk: | Juski_ beat me too it |
| [02:35:00] | danq: | nope, just want to give it a go. |
| [02:36:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, is it listed in lsmod? |
| [02:36:00] | phar0e: | anyone know why my libmysql isn't working? it's acting like qt doesn't have mysql support, but the libraries are in the path |
| [02:36:00] | Jasper: | yes kormoc |
| [02:36:00] | scopeuk: | danq you could i spose have the files transcode then usea 3rd party program vlc maby to stream them it goes beyond my level of knolage though |
| [02:36:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, it would appear confused... |
| [02:36:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, what does dmesg say? |
| [02:36:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [02:37:00] | kormoc: | danq, if your internet connection is fast enough, you could fine |
| [02:37:00] | scopeuk: | isent it funeny how we all say the same thing with a few seconds seperation |
| [02:37:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/nvidia.dmesg <-- kormoc |
| [02:38:00] | Jasper: | and the only thing I did was downgrade from the newest nvidia to this version.. |
| [02:38:00] | danq: | Excellent. I believe I'll stick around here longer. |
| [02:38:00] | danq: | Thanks again for the help, I greatly appreciate it. |
| [02:38:00] | scopeuk: | Jasper jsut a throught but have you tried re upgrading? |
| [02:38:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, rmmod nvidia |
| [02:39:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, then modprobe nvidia |
| [02:39:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, then startx |
| [02:39:00] | scopeuk: | danq just loiter the rest of us do |
| [02:39:00] | danq: | Word. |
| [02:39:00] | Jasper: | scopeuk same error kormoc |
| [02:39:00] | briand: | okay, back to this perl program... |
| [02:39:00] | Jasper: | sorry scopeuk I ment to say yes to you |
| [02:40:00] | scopeuk: | yeh i figured that |
| [02:40:00] | scopeuk: | ive had random multiway conversations before |
| [02:40:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, have you perhaps rebooted after the downgrade? |
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| [02:42:00] | Jasper: | yea kormoc |
| [02:43:00] | Snack_Mage: | hell oall |
| [02:43:00] | Jasper: | hi |
| [02:43:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, that's so very odd |
| [02:43:00] | Jasper: | yeah it is |
| [02:44:00] | Snack_Mage: | would one of you know where I could grab the lirc cofniguration for a Radioshack 15–2136 universal remote? (Kameleon 4 in 1 touch screen) |
| [02:44:00] | Jasper: | I think I'll just re-upgrade |
| [02:44:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [02:44:00] | Jasper: | since that worked |
| [02:44:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [02:49:00] | Jasper: | am off to bed |
| [02:49:00] | Juski_: | Snack_Mage: depends what code you set a function to – I think it has codes built-in to emulate the grey Hauppauge remote |
| [02:49:00] | Jasper: | goodnigh |
| [02:49:00] | Jasper is now known as Jasper^off | |
| [02:49:00] | Juski_: | night Jasper |
| [02:49:00] | Juski_: | too late oops |
| [02:50:00] | Snack_Mage: | oh yeah? |
| [02:50:00] | Snack_Mage: | yeah because I was gonna have it replace my pvr-350's remote |
| [02:50:00] | Snack_Mage: | so it should emulate the pvr-350 signaling? |
| [02:51:00] | Snack_Mage: | that would be neat :D |
| [02:53:00] | Juski_: | yeh, or you could find a code where the most (or all) of the remote's buttons work and use irrecord to make your own conf files |
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| [02:54:00] | ** Snack_Mage is a lirc noob ** | |
| [02:54:00] | Juski_: | me, I just reprogrammed my OFA6 remote with a new protocol (my own made up one based on RC5) and used irrecord |
| [02:54:00] | Snack_Mage: | I'm really doing this half because my audio control has left me |
| [02:54:00] | Snack_Mage: | I'll look into that |
| [02:54:00] | Juski_: | lirc ain't so hard |
| [02:54:00] | Snack_Mage: | you wouldn't happen to know the mysql command to modify the myth database would you? |
| [02:54:00] | Juski_: | irrecord <conf file name> |
| [02:55:00] | Juski_: | which bit of the database? |
| [02:55:00] | Snack_Mage: | I'm trying to see if I can't get volume control back |
| [02:55:00] | Juski_: | where did it go? |
| [02:55:00] | Snack_Mage: | I was reading in the mail list about someone (who has the same issue as me) whou couldn't control the volume in mythtv 0.19 for live/recorded tv |
| [02:55:00] | Snack_Mage: | I have no clue |
| [02:55:00] | Juski_: | mess with your keybindings or something? |
| [02:55:00] | Snack_Mage: | no actually |
| [02:55:00] | Snack_Mage: | I upgraded with yum to myth 0.19 |
| [02:56:00] | Snack_Mage: | and all of a sudden there was no more OSD volume control |
| [02:56:00] | Snack_Mage: | and I wept |
| [02:56:00] | Juski_: | dunno then |
| [02:56:00] | Juski_: | might be mapped to different keys now but I doubt it |
| [02:56:00] | Juski_: | I use the TV vol. control or my amplifier |
| [02:56:00] | Snack_Mage: | yeah thats what I planened to do with the remote |
| [02:56:00] | Juski_: | normally use digital out so the volume control in myth has no effect anyway |
| [02:58:00] | Juski_: | if you're not keen on making your own lirc configs I wouldn't advise you try reprogramming your zapper with JP1 then ;-) |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | same here.. my remote (kameleon) drives both my myth and my amp.. and has a "universal volume" option so even though I am control the myth.. when I press volup or voldown it knows to do it on my amp instead |
| [02:58:00] | Shdwdrgn: | hey I've noticed that if I choose a show to record, and select to record this show at any time on any channel, I never get ANY recordings, not even the one I actually selected. Is this a known issue? |
| [02:59:00] | briand: | hmm. I don't have any scheds like that... I've got several "anytime on channel x", and they've been recording fine... |
| [02:59:00] | Kelerion: | Shdwdrgn, sounds like it's related to something else.. can you record normally? |
| [02:59:00] | Shdwdrgn: | all right, I'll give that one a shot, see what comes up |
| [02:59:00] | ** Juski_ 's hard drive is filling up with 'Mythbusters' & South Park, so record any time, any channel is working ** | |
| [03:00:00] | Shdwdrgn: | yeah I can record from livetv, and I can schedule a single recording of a show |
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| [03:00:00] | Kelerion: | I started watching Mythbusters a couple of months ago and got hooked |
| [03:00:00] | scopeuk: | hey another fello lunatic |
| [03:00:00] | scopeuk: | you seen the one where they blow up the cement truck? |
| [03:01:00] | Snack_Mage: | :D |
| [03:01:00] | SithAdmin: | kaboom! |
| [03:01:00] | Snack_Mage: | thats a good show |
| [03:01:00] | SithAdmin: | rocked the whole countryside with that one. |
| [03:01:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. from *very* far away |
| [03:01:00] | Snack_Mage: | I started watching Star Trek TNG and now I have like 5 episodes record everyday |
| [03:01:00] | briand: | Kelerion: it's a great show, isn't it? |
| [03:01:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [03:01:00] | SithAdmin: | how many pounds of RDX did they use? |
| [03:01:00] | Kelerion: | enough so there was no cement truck left |
| [03:01:00] | briand: | my friend told me about it.. and he was quite surprised I wasn't already a fan... actually, I had never heard of it before a few months ago. |
| [03:01:00] | SithAdmin: | pretty much..couple of hundred.. |
| [03:02:00] | scopeuk: | it jsut about filled the truck |
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| [03:02:00] | scopeuk: | i have it on dvd round here somewplace |
| [03:02:00] | SithAdmin: | oh, and, morning all. |
| [03:02:00] | scopeuk: | or maby my friend has it |
| [03:02:00] | scopeuk: | morning |
| [03:02:00] | Snack_Mage: | sweeet lord in heaven |
| [03:02:00] | Kelerion: | morning (it's 3am here) so I think it's morning |
| [03:02:00] | Snack_Mage: | IT WORKED |
| [03:02:00] | scopeuk: | techinicaly its 3am here and i should have been in bed baout 4 hours ago but hey |
| [03:02:00] | Snack_Mage: | hooray! |
| [03:02:00] | squish102: | can u rename a recording? |
| [03:03:00] | Kelerion: | sure |
| [03:03:00] | Kelerion: | use mythrename.pl |
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| [03:03:00] | Kelerion: | renames *all* your recordings |
| [03:03:00] | Kelerion: | lot nicer to read |
| [03:03:00] | Juski_: | I was in bed asleep til about 1.30am |
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| [03:03:00] | squish102: | i have one recording with "--" in the recording name |
| [03:03:00] | Juski_: | need to go back soon actually or I'll be a grumpy Juski later |
| [03:03:00] | scopeuk: | Juski_ ive only been up 16 hours |
| [03:04:00] | squish102: | and mythburn blows chunks |
| [03:04:00] | Manolis: | Snack_Mage can you control the volume through the telnet interface? |
| [03:04:00] | Juski_: | mythburn blows chunks regardless ;) |
| [03:04:00] | squish102: | mythburn is only reason i use myth :P |
| [03:05:00] | Shdwdrgn: | huh... so it doesn;t show that I have any upcoming recordings scheduled, but under recording priorities I have several different shows listed with a priority of +0 |
| [03:06:00] | Shdwdrgn: | and backend is still running |
| [03:06:00] | squish102: | what table in mysql will have the recording names in |
| [03:06:00] | Snack_Mage: | haven't tryed telnet |
| [03:06:00] | Snack_Mage: | but I fixed the sound issue |
| [03:06:00] | Kelerion: | recorded |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | ok, enough mythweb commits for now... |
| [03:06:00] | Snack_Mage: | oh and what about mythburn? |
| [03:06:00] | Juski_: | I think what mythburn devs need to do is take working mjpegtools (etc) code & build a proper app |
| [03:06:00] | Snack_Mage: | Is it actually good? |
| [03:07:00] | squish102: | recordedprogram |
| [03:07:00] | Snack_Mage: | does it atleast burn the dvd with the selected files? |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | or we need to get jams to just improve nuv2disc |
| [03:07:00] | Juski_: | Snack_Mage: allegedly. if you can get it to work with all the dependencies on crappy apps that it has. just segfaults here when it uses mpeg2enc |
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| [03:08:00] | Kelerion: | squish102, not on mine.. it's basename field in recorded |
| [03:08:00] | Snack_Mage: | I'll take my chacnes :D |
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| [03:08:00] | squish102: | thanks Kelerion |
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| [03:09:00] | sPiN: | hey guys, im getting this strange output in from mythtv when it recors, it says, ac-tex damaged at 42 29 |
| [03:09:00] | Juski_: | maybe mjpegtools has been fixed now I dunno. couldn't be arsed debugging it |
| [03:09:00] | Juski_: | sPiN: minor mpeg2 corruption |
| [03:10:00] | Kelerion: | I got mythburn working once.. but then I reinstalled and just couldn't face doing it all again |
| [03:10:00] | sPiN: | nothing to serious then? and what can i do to fix it... |
| [03:10:00] | squish102: | Kelerion, mine works well except for a little problem with the thumbnails |
| [03:10:00] | Juski_: | sPiN: depends on your recording source (capture card & stuff) |
| [03:11:00] | squish102: | and with the computer not plugged into tv yet, it is the only way to watch recorded shows |
| [03:11:00] | Shdwdrgn: | do I need to set the priority to +1 to make it actually record? I assumed that +0 would record unless something with a higher priority overrode it |
| [03:11:00] | Kelerion: | and I just didn't see the point of having to do it all from mythweb.. so figured I'd wait till it was nicely incorporated as a function in mythfrontend |
| [03:11:00] | Juski_: | Shdwdrgn: you assumed correctly. that's how it _should_ work |
| [03:11:00] | sPiN: | using a pvr 150 |
| [03:11:00] | Shdwdrgn: | well damn |
| [03:11:00] | squish102: | well i do most from mythweb |
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| [03:13:00] | squish102: | i just wish i could figure out this black line on the left side of my picture (only happened with 0.19) pvr 150 :( |
| [03:13:00] | Chutt: | heh |
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| [03:14:00] | Chutt: | hey, xris, no need to merge _everything_ back into the fixes branch =) |
| [03:14:00] | F0AMERtailgrep: | anyone have tips to stretch the TVout display (composite) on a GF2MX? |
| [03:14:00] | F0AMERtailgrep: | (to eliminate black lines) |
| [03:15:00] | sPiN: | FOAMERtailgrep, i dont think you can with that card, the gf4 have an overscan feature... |
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| [03:15:00] | F0AMERtailgrep: | i figured that =( |
| [03:15:00] | sPiN: | and newer cards |
| [03:15:00] | paulc37: | Q: Is MythTV dropping connections to MySQL???? |
| [03:16:00] | Juski_: | FOAMERtailgrep: get nvtv and play with it... you can experiment with different video modes |
| [03:16:00] | Agrajag-: | paulc37: no |
| [03:16:00] | Kelerion: | A: not here |
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| [03:16:00] | Juski_: | paulc37: see the IRC log from earlier today.. it came up & I think there's a solution |
| [03:16:00] | paulc37: | I am running Debian unstable with all the packages updatedand have had some drops. |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | Chutt: they were all bugs. :) |
| [03:17:00] | paulc37: | Oh, I don't know how to look at the logs |
| [03:17:00] | scopeuk: | it was somethign about old_password=1 in a config file |
| [03:17:00] | markl: | any ivtv gurus here? my rabbit ears work ok but when i try to switch the input to composite on my pvr250 I get this in dmesg: |
| [03:17:00] | markl: | [4295526.752000] ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40045612! |
| [03:17:00] | paulc37: | no, that's different |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | and I didn't move everything back... I did leave the new skin in trunk. heh |
| [03:17:00] | markl: | any idea what to do? |
| [03:17:00] | Juski_: | I think mysql5 drops inactive connections after a while... something in your my.cnf |
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| [03:17:00] | paulc37: | This is a situation where I have a connection working, but then it drops after some time |
| [03:17:00] | Kelerion: | xris, new skin? how new is that? |
| [03:17:00] | jams: | paulc37- which version of mysql? |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | oh, speaking of which, I should make my changes to the readme |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | xris, true |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | Kelerion: someone contributed a grey-color skin for mythweb |
| [03:18:00] | ** Juski_ stands corrected.. again ** | |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | just saw all the merges :p |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | no UI for changing skins yet, though |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | themes, not skins |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah, a bunch of them. |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | Chutt: mythweb has both |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [03:18:00] | Juski_: | Chutt: thanks for pointing that out. I hate them being called 'skins' too |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | needed a way to differentiate between display-features and lookfeel |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | or rather, between "feel" and "look" |
| [03:19:00] | Juski_: | anyway.. bedtime. night all. |
| [03:20:00] | Kelerion: | g'night Juski :) |
| [03:21:00] | Manolis: | paulc37: is the frontend on the same machine as the backend? |
| [03:21:00] | scopeuk: | night |
| [03:21:00] | paulc37: | yes |
| [03:21:00] | paulc37: | It's not a frontend problem |
| [03:21:00] | paulc37: | since it's just about recording |
| [03:22:00] | paulc37: | I'm hoping the upgrade of mysql will have fixed whatever it was |
| [03:22:00] | briand: | i've had an instance of the backend running for months without ever losing connection with the database... |
| [03:22:00] | Manolis: | paulc37: has it happened again tonight since you restarted the backend? |
| [03:23:00] | briand: | ...i suspect the program(s) don't keep it open indefinitely... open the connection, do what they need, close it again. |
| [03:23:00] | jams: | paulc37- if you are using mysql 5 there is a good chance that is causing your problem. |
| [03:23:00] | paulc37: | not yet |
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| [03:24:00] | paulc37: | Brian: I have as well, but that was before 0.19 |
| [03:24:00] | ** xris kicks wiki.mythtv.org for capitalizing his name ** | |
| [03:24:00] | briand: | paulc37: well, i haven't had 0.19 going for months (yet)... but it's been running for days, anyway. |
| [03:24:00] | paulc37: | Jams: Yes, it's MySQL 5, but so is everyone else |
| [03:24:00] | briand: | xris: it did it to me, too. :/ |
| [03:24:00] | Kelerion: | brb |
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| [03:24:00] | xris: | Xris just looks funny... |
| [03:24:00] | paulc37: | Bri: Did you upgrade your MySQL server too? |
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| [03:25:00] | briand: | paulc37: nope. no reason to upgrade what was working/functioning. ;) |
| [03:25:00] | briand: | xris: yeah.. i hear ya. so does 'Briand' |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | Chutt: and here goes another one. :) |
| [03:25:00] | paulc37: | I run Debian unstable and just upgrade everything all quite often (that might be my problem, I'm on the upgrade edge..I should switch to your procedure :)) |
| [03:26:00] | briand: | paulc37: well, if you're playing around on a machine you don't care what happens with it... learning stuff, etc... that path is fine. |
| [03:27:00] | Manolis: | paulc37 is it 5.0.18–7 or even newer? I update/upgrade just about once a week... |
| [03:27:00] | briand: | paulc37: ...but when you get into "production" ... when you're doing something useful with the machine, you don't go needlessly changing anything. |
| [03:27:00] | paulc37: | Man: Not sure, since my upgrade tonight just included MySQL-Sevrer |
| [03:27:00] | paulc37: | so not sure what it was before |
| [03:27:00] | briand: | I've got an old 486 IBM ThinkPad running DOS (well, 4DOS, actually) running the same monitoring program for the past 7 or 8 years... |
| [03:28:00] | Manolis: | paulc37 "dpkg -l mysql-server" |
| [03:28:00] | paulc37: | The current version is 5.0.18–8 |
| [03:28:00] | paulc37: | but that's after the upgrade I just did tonight |
| [03:28:00] | Manolis: | ahh! remind me not to upgrade tonight ;) |
| [03:28:00] | paulc37: | since then haven't had the problem, but I don't think it was happening to often..like once a day |
| [03:29:00] | briand: | (it reads the 4800 baud serial stream for our local public service motorola trunking system, and controls a receiver based on the state of the various talkgroups, etc) |
| [03:29:00] | paulc37: | so, I guess itwas on the 18–7 version where I was getting the problem |
| [03:29:00] | Manolis: | I honestly haven't had a problem since moving to 19 the day it was released |
| [03:30:00] | Manolis: | I think I did an upgrade / dist-upgrade before installing 19 |
| [03:30:00] | scopeuk: | isent it update/dist-upgrade |
| [03:30:00] | scopeuk: | may be wrong there |
| [03:30:00] | paulc37: | ok..I was running Myth from CVS before the upgrade, I wonder if there is something left from the local install that is screwing with it |
| [03:31:00] | Manolis: | scopeuk I just meant upgrade in a general way, not the command, but you're right update then upgrade |
| [03:32:00] | Manolis: | paulc37 : I did dump my db when I upgraded to 19 and then started from scratch |
| [03:32:00] | paulc37: | oh, I didn't do that |
| [03:33:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, where's the new ebuild, people are confused on the users list :p |
| [03:33:00] | Manolis: | I had a weird issue when trying to schedule a show from MythWeb that was resolved by dumping the DB |
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| [03:35:00] | F0AMERtailgrep: | btw, will nvtv coexist with existing drive setups? |
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| [03:35:00] | marccd: | anybody else experiencing ticket 1340? |
| [03:37:00] | scopeuk: | marccd whould it not be easier for the rest of us if you post a link |
| [03:37:00] | jams: | Chutt, your recent commits really cleared up that pause I was having |
| [03:37:00] | Chutt: | good. |
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| [03:38:00] | paulc37: | marc: yes, please post link |
| [03:38:00] | phar0e: | qt 3.3 is installed, I have mysql libraries for it! it's in the ldconfig path, and ... nothing works! aaa |
| [03:38:00] | jams: | thanks, the wife no longer gives me a strange look every half hour =) |
| [03:38:00] | marccd: | scopeuk svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1340 |
| [03:39:00] | scopeuk: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1340 |
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| [03:41:00] | scopeuk: | ok scince its getting clsoe on 4am here i spose i orta sleep |
| [03:41:00] | marccd: | scopeuk: ? |
| [03:41:00] | scopeuk: | night all |
| [03:41:00] | marccd: | why isnt it getting fixed? |
| [03:41:00] | jams: | marccd- are you running at least 9107? |
| [03:41:00] | Chutt: | 1340's fixed. |
| [03:42:00] | Chutt: | if it's still happening to you, you have a different issue. |
| [03:42:00] | paulc37: | yes, other people are experiencing it, but it is fixed |
| [03:42:00] | marccd: | jams: how can I check therevision number?? |
| [03:42:00] | paulc37: | I didn't experience it mysekf, I'm having a different problem where my connection to the DB was dropping once a day |
| [03:42:00] | marccd: | if you guys are talking about fix 9013, it does NOT fix it |
| [03:42:00] | jams: | mythfrontend --version |
| [03:42:00] | marccd: | it is commented on the bug |
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| [03:43:00] | Chutt: | 9013? |
| [03:43:00] | Chutt: | why would that fix it? |
| [03:43:00] | marccd: | Library API version: 0.19.20060121–2 |
| [03:43:00] | marccd: | 1309, sorry |
| [03:43:00] | Chutt: | jams just asked if you're running at least 9107 |
| [03:44:00] | Chutt: | are you going to answer him? |
| [03:45:00] | marccd: | I asked how can I check |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | here it is, again, easier – are you running current svn from the last 8 hours. |
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| [03:45:00] | marccd: | --version does not give me the revision number |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | then you're not running svn |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | so, uh, why would you think the problem would magically fix itself? |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | without updating mythtv? |
| [03:45:00] | marccd: | i AM running svn |
| [03:46:00] | Chutt: | if you were, you'd have a line like: Source code version: 9105:9107M |
| [03:47:00] | marccd: | mmh |
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| [03:51:00] | maximus2000: | How do I wakeup mythbackend? The only way I can get this to work is to run mythbackend in a terminal then start mythfrontend. I do habe /etc/ini.t/mythbackend started |
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| [03:52:00] | chuckyp: | maximus2000, You mean start the backend on boot? |
| [03:52:00] | maximus2000: | oh ok so I can't start it from a terminal have to set it up to start at boot. Thanks |
| [03:53:00] | chuckyp: | maximus2000, huh? You can start it however you want. I don't understand your question. |
| [03:55:00] | maximus2000: | I start log into my machine start run #/etc/init.d/mythbackend start next I type $mythfrontend. However it always states it cannot connect to the backend. |
| [03:55:00] | maximus2000: | If I type mythbackend at a terminal the mythfrontend it works |
| [03:55:00] | chuckyp: | Thats wierd. |
| [03:56:00] | maximus2000: | so it seems that /etc/init.d/mythbackend start is not working although it states it started |
| [03:56:00] | chuckyp: | what if you try /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart perhaps its already running when you log in? |
| [03:56:00] | marccd: | the init script is a fix of crap |
| [03:57:00] | marccd: | try starting the backend and then seeing if myth is there with |
| [03:57:00] | marccd: | pgrep myth |
| [03:57:00] | marccd: | if not, edit the myth backend script, it usually runs it as user mythtv |
| [03:57:00] | marccd: | su to that user and try running mythbackend in the terminal |
| [03:57:00] | marccd: | it should give you an error |
| [03:57:00] | Manolis: | maximus2000 : try creating an rc.local and just putting "/usr/local/bin/mythbackend & " in it |
| [03:58:00] | marccd: | that wont work in all distros |
| [03:58:00] | marccd: | and it is a bad way to do it anyways |
| [03:58:00] | sphing: | ... why? |
| [03:58:00] | Manolis: | marccd : no and oh ? |
| [03:58:00] | maximus2000: | marccd, I can start the backend as root user from terminal then log in log in to mythfrontend as user and all works |
| [03:59:00] | marccd: | maximus2000: grep -i user /etc/init.d/mythbackend |
| [03:59:00] | sphing: | what?! |
| [03:59:00] | sphing: | I must be misreading that |
| [03:59:00] | chuckyp: | maximus2000, yeah the user is set wrong then |
| [04:00:00] | sphing: | marccd: ah i see... i guess it depends on the distro |
| [04:00:00] | marccd: | sphing: of course |
| [04:00:00] | sphing: | yea cause I was like wtf... that should be conf.d |
| [04:00:00] | marccd: | sphing: it is a shame everybody does it different, and they allsuck btw |
| [04:00:00] | sphing: | but i relalized |
| [04:01:00] | maximus2000: | marccd, that command produces no output |
| [04:01:00] | marccd: | maximus2000: what distro? where did you get myth? |
| [04:01:00] | sphing: | maximus2000: what distro? |
| [04:01:00] | maximus2000: | Gentoo |
| [04:01:00] | sphing: | maximus2000: /etc/conf.d is the configuration for the init scripts |
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| [04:03:00] | maximus2000: | http://pastebin.com/569722 This is /etc/init.d/mythbackend |
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| [04:05:00] | maximus2000: | sphing, The config.d/mythbackend only has #MYTH_VERBOSE="none" |
| [04:05:00] | jams: | check the permission on the recording dir. make sure mythtv can read and write to it. |
| [04:05:00] | sphing: | maximus2000: is not starting? |
| [04:07:00] | maximus2000: | sphing, Well mythbackend starts atleast that is what i get but mythfrontend cannot cnnect. However like I said if I type mythbacken in a command promt the log into mythfrontend as a user all is fine. |
| [04:07:00] | sphing: | did you set it to start with rc-update? |
| [04:08:00] | maximus2000: | No I just start it from a terminal with /etc/init.d/mythbacken start |
| [04:08:00] | marccd: | #gentoo might be able to help you if it is a gentoo specific issue |
| [04:08:00] | marccd: | it should produce output, set it to verbose |
| [04:08:00] | maximus2000: | I just set it up to start at boot with rc-update |
| [04:09:00] | maximus2000: | marccd, Yeah I am going to as on gentoo irc too. Thought I would ask here first thought maybe I was doing something wrong |
| [04:09:00] | maximus2000: | I do appreciate all the help gonna try reboot with mythbackend starting at boot. Hope that does something but not counting on it. |
| [04:10:00] | marccd: | it wont help |
| [04:10:00] | marccd: | it should start from the terminal |
| [04:10:00] | marccd: | if it isnt starting, then it is a problem in the way the script executes it |
| [04:11:00] | marccd: | that is why you should edit it and set $MYTH_VERBOSE to true |
| [04:11:00] | marccd: | -z checks if the string is empty.. on start().. [[ -z "${MYTH_VERBOSE}" ]] && MYTH_VERBOSE="none" |
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| [04:11:00] | marccd: | so, either comment out that line or edit MYTH_VERBOSE in /etc/conf.d/ or wherever it is |
| [04:12:00] | marccd: | the script is run as root, but if you see it chowns and tells start-stop-daemon about User mythtv |
| [04:12:00] | maximus2000: | marccd, thanks will do |
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| [04:21:00] | marccd: | why does myth include in source libmpeg2 and other codecs?.. |
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| [04:21:00] | redline--: | lo all |
| [04:21:00] | marccd: | are there myth specific issues?, it takes a while to compile, besides I would guess they at not at par with the upstream dev |
| [04:21:00] | redline--: | i got an offtopic question, maybe some of oyu guru's could help with.... |
| [04:21:00] | marccd: | although libmpeg2 seems pretty much dead (releaseS) |
| [04:22:00] | redline--: | anyone deal with a bootloader that can boot from usb stick? |
| [04:22:00] | marccd: | wtf does that have to with myth? |
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| [04:22:00] | redline--: | marccd: you talking to me? |
| [04:22:00] | marccd: | yes |
| [04:22:00] | Chutt: | all the libraries included with myth are current. |
| [04:22:00] | redline--: | did you see i said i have an offtopic question? |
| [04:22:00] | marccd: | that is a question for some other channel, dealing with grub, lilo, whatever did you use |
| [04:23:00] | marccd: | redline--: I did |
| [04:23:00] | marccd: | Chutt: ok, I just thought it would be more efficient to link them at configure rather than compiling |
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| [04:23:00] | Chutt: | why? |
| [04:24:00] | Chutt: | so you can break things by upgrading ffmpeg later on? |
| [04:24:00] | marccd: | so you dont get duplicates and faster comp times.. but I guess it could be an option in configure to use the system's ffmpeg/whatever rather than myths |
| [04:24:00] | Chutt: | or go find and compile some library that's not in any distro? |
| [04:25:00] | Chutt: | buy a faster machine or use distcc if you want faster compile times. |
| [04:25:00] | marccd: | an option to use external libs seems useful |
| [04:26:00] | Chutt: | i disagree. |
| [04:26:00] | Chutt: | you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. |
| [04:28:00] | Manolis: | "[21:21] <Juski_> Manolis... what? we go off topic in here loads and nobody blows their stack about it" |
| [04:29:00] | redline--: | lol |
| [04:29:00] | Manolis: | That was just tonight too... |
| [04:29:00] | redline--: | topic also says Please don't be a dumbass! Dammit! |
| [04:29:00] | sphing: | Manolis: so? |
| [04:29:00] | sphing: | I ask OT questions all the time |
| [04:30:00] | redline--: | as do i and get answers from helpfull people in the channel |
| [04:30:00] | redline--: | namely Kelerion GreyFoxx Juski and others |
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| [04:44:00] | scottder: | Anyone use USB drives with there MythTV |
| [04:45:00] | redline--: | thats what i am trying to do now scottder |
| [04:45:00] | redline--: | i cant get my box to boot it |
| [04:46:00] | scottder: | Oh i wa just going to use for addition storage |
| [04:46:00] | scottder: | say for music and video, but not the TV stuff |
| [04:46:00] | redline--: | sure i would easily use for storage not for direct recodings or playback |
| [04:47:00] | redline--: | allthough you may be able to use it hassle free for playback depending on the file |
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| [04:47:00] | scottder: | probably invest in a pci USB2.0 card though...this machine is a tad old |
| [04:47:00] | buddy: | hello |
| [04:47:00] | scottder: | but does the job well enough for standard def |
| [04:48:00] | redline--: | should |
| [04:48:00] | buddy: | my mythfilldatabase fails to updata myth DB BUT givesno errors in log |
| [04:48:00] | buddy: | any pointers? |
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| [04:48:00] | redline--: | any errors given after mythfill runs? |
| [04:48:00] | scottder: | what happens when you run it from command line? |
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| [04:49:00] | buddy: | mysqlcheck mythconverg |
| [04:49:00] | buddy: | says OK |
| [04:49:00] | redline--: | i mean you run mythfilldatabase and at the end does it give oyu any errors? |
| [04:50:00] | redline--: | what user are you running the filldatabase as? |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | Adjusting program database end times... |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | 0 replacements made. |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | Marking repeats...found 0 |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window...found 0 |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–23 22:49:50.806 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.15.220:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–23 22:49:50.814 Using protocol version 15 |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | ran as mythtv |
| [04:50:00] | buddy: | ran as mythtv user |
| [04:51:00] | buddy: | i copied and pasted :) |
| [04:51:00] | redline--: | how do you start your backend, by init script or manually? |
| [04:51:00] | buddy: | manually |
| [04:51:00] | redline--: | do you use the -l option for log file? |
| [04:52:00] | buddy: | 1 sec and I'll run it with log option |
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| [04:52:00] | Ediehow: | laga, you there? |
| [04:54:00] | danq: | Hi. |
| [04:54:00] | danq: | I'm getting some interesting problems when trying to run mythtv-setup... it'll ask me for a language and some DB information, and goes through like it normally would. But then if I try to run mythtv again, it'll ask for the same messages. |
| [04:55:00] | buddy: | what woul be the cmd mythflldatabase -l > /home/mythtv/error.log ? |
| [04:55:00] | danq: | In the background it complains about not being able to load the database, but more than that, no errors |
| [04:55:00] | buddy: | yes no errors but nothing filled |
| [04:56:00] | buddy: | also new load from mythdora with static IP address |
| [04:57:00] | buddy: | when I try DHCP and box gets new IP frontend and back end dosent have same IP |
| [04:57:00] | buddy: | so I changed IP to reflect both |
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| [04:59:00] | redline--: | ip of the frontend should match the one of the backend at all times, best to harcode the ip of the backend |
| [05:00:00] | buddy: | Hmmmm i jus ran mythbackend and recived this error msg |
| [05:00:00] | buddy: | QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [05:00:00] | redline--: | type /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| [05:01:00] | marccd: | revision 9132 fixes 1340 Chutt, thanks |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | <marccd> why isnt it getting fixed? |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | hrm |
| [05:02:00] | marccd: | when I said that I did not know it was fixed by SVN, I dont see the reasoning behind the hostile attitude you displayed throughout our conversation |
| [05:02:00] | marccd: | anyways, I dont care enough to inquiry about it |
| [05:02:00] | marccd: | thansk for the help Chutt :) |
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| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | what a moron. |
| [05:02:00] | phar0e: | lol |
| [05:03:00] | phar0e: | i bet that's how you talk about me when I quit irc, chutt |
| [05:03:00] | buddy: | as mythtv user access denied |
| [05:03:00] | buddy: | as root sats unknown databast 'start' |
| [05:03:00] | redline--: | buddy reade the readme or the mythtv install guide on how to set permissions on mythconverge to allow users |
| [05:04:00] | redline--: | i really suck at typing |
| [05:04:00] | buddy: | dont worrk my typing skills suck also |
| [05:04:00] | buddy: | :) |
| [05:04:00] | redline--: | marccd name didnt sound familliar to me and I was gonna blast him when he gave me lip but held back |
| [05:04:00] | ilan: | hello anyone know what kind of bandwidth requirements MythFrontEnd has? |
| [05:05:00] | phar0e: | depends on the quality of video, ilan |
| [05:06:00] | redline--: | buddy what distro do you use? |
| [05:06:00] | redline--: | redhat? |
| [05:06:00] | mishehu: | ilan: that depends on what you plan to view. |
| [05:06:00] | phar0e: | redline--: I use slackware, if you were curious |
| [05:06:00] | buddy: | fc3 |
| [05:06:00] | redline--: | how do you normally startup programs in fc3? |
| [05:07:00] | redline--: | in gentoo its in init.d |
| [05:07:00] | buddy: | ? its an ISO image from mythdora |
| [05:07:00] | redline--: | make sure your sql server is running |
| [05:07:00] | ilan: | mishehu: tv mostly... someone showed me slingbox the other day... and mythtv popped into my head. |
| [05:09:00] | redline--: | also make sure permissions are set on mythconverg db |
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| [05:10:00] | ilan: | mishehu: basically i travel a lot. and was hoping to watch tv remotely :) |
| [05:10:00] | redline--: | ilan i use a 24 port 10/100 ibm switch and notice that it bursts to max capacity at time when using mythfrontend but.. i also hear you can use a 54g wireless with myththfrontend |
| [05:11:00] | redline--: | mythstreamtv can do that for you |
| [05:11:00] | phar0e: | it's very difficult to get 54g working with linux.. I'm not sure if it's even possible |
| [05:11:00] | Cardoe: | phar0e: ?!? |
| [05:11:00] | mishehu: | ilan: that'd be a lot then. |
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| [05:11:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v Chutt | |
| [05:11:00] | phar0e: | the lucky ones get 22Mbps.. |
| [05:11:00] | phar0e: | Cardoe?! |
| [05:11:00] | Cardoe: | phar0e: where do you get that random crap from? |
| [05:11:00] | ilan: | mishehu: ya... i figured... |
| [05:12:00] | phar0e: | I read it someplace |
| [05:12:00] | Cardoe: | phar0e: well that place was talking out of it's ass. |
| [05:12:00] | redline--: | or was written back in 2002 |
| [05:12:00] | phar0e: | you have heard of 802.11g cards operating at full operational rates? |
| [05:12:00] | Cardoe: | phar0e: you mean the one I'm talking to you over? |
| [05:12:00] | Cardoe: | at 54g? |
| [05:13:00] | ilan: | the other option i was thinking was to just setup an encoding box her in LA... and then just copy the data over to a viewing box down in south america |
| [05:13:00] | phar0e: | yeah, , what driver are you using? |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | phar0e: the one that Intel provides open source drivers for? |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | phar0e: that are merged into the kernel? |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | that card? |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | yes, I've heard of it |
| [05:13:00] | Chutt: | no you haven't |
| [05:13:00] | Chutt: | it can't exist! |
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| [05:14:00] | redline--: | ilan check out the possibilities of mythstreamtv its broaband bandwidth streaming |
| [05:14:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: ha. thank you! |
| [05:14:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I was just gonna ask if it's "make random shit up" day. |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | it is |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | hey, you done with those updated ebuilds? |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | people on the users list were getting confused |
| [05:15:00] | Chutt: | course, that's because they're dumb, but, whatever |
| [05:15:00] | Cardoe: | no. |
| [05:15:00] | Cardoe: | I worked both jobs today |
| [05:15:00] | Cardoe: | I was suppose to just go in for 5 minutes. |
| [05:15:00] | Cardoe: | 5 minutes turned into "hmm.. is it 5 oclock already?" |
| [05:16:00] | redline--: | hey i resemble that remark, i subscribe to that list |
| [05:16:00] | buddy: | well sql server running checked permissions via webadmin all ok |
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| [05:16:00] | ilan: | redline--: thanks... ill check it out |
| [05:16:00] | buddy: | well check permissions via webadmin all ok |
| [05:17:00] | redline--: | hmm |
| [05:18:00] | buddy: | yes i know hmmm |
| [05:18:00] | redline--: | try running mythfilldatabase as root |
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| [05:19:00] | phar0e: | hmm 54g must only work in gentoo |
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| [05:20:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I told you gentoo was better... |
| [05:20:00] | Chutt: | apparently |
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| [05:20:00] | buddy: | oops |
| [05:20:00] | phar0e: | I read gentoo will alter code to make it seem like text is flying passed your screen faster than it is |
| [05:21:00] | buddy: | sorry about spamming didnt know their was a liit on what I cut & paste :) |
| [05:22:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: and Gentoo cheats at being "better" |
| [05:22:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: oh well. you win some and you lose some. |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | indeed |
| [05:27:00] | buddy: | i did a netstat just now and I dont see socket 6543 or 6544 for sql |
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| [05:27:00] | Chutt: | sql doesn't use either. |
| [05:27:00] | buddy: | yet mysql is running |
| [05:27:00] | buddy: | ? dosent mythtv use then for mysql |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | uh, no |
| [05:28:00] | bones10: | I've got about getting hotkey buttons and a control knob from imod to work. I was hoping someone could just point me in the right direction. |
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| [05:29:00] | bones10: | arg – can't type tonight |
| [05:29:00] | rav3r: | any idea what "buffer overflow detected" means? |
| [05:30:00] | bones10: | rav3r, that in /var/log/messages when you load up stuff for your pvr card? |
| [05:30:00] | rav3r: | its when i try to run zsnes |
| [05:30:00] | bones10: | hm not sure |
| [05:31:00] | rav3r: | hmmm, it's puzzeling me |
| [05:31:00] | buddy: | hmm mythbackend has errors QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [05:31:00] | buddy: | Failed to bind port: 6543 |
| [05:31:00] | bones10: | I tried the game emulators for a bit, but then decided it was a mess and disabled mythgame |
| [05:31:00] | rav3r: | "buffer overflow detected" tells me nothing in google |
| [05:31:00] | rav3r: | i seem to have xmame working wonderfully |
| [05:31:00] | bones10: | try "zsnes buffer overflow" in google |
| [05:32:00] | bones10: | I've got this case: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc16m.htm |
| [05:33:00] | bones10: | I've got the lcd display to work in mythtv, along with most of the remote, but I need help getting the selection knob and hotkey buttons to work |
| [05:33:00] | rav3r: | thanks bones |
| [05:33:00] | bones10: | anyone know if the the buttons and knob send signals that lirc picks up, or are these registered as keyboard keys/controls? |
| [05:33:00] | bones10: | rav3r, np |
| [05:34:00] | rav3r: | pretty case, goodluck |
| [05:34:00] | bones10: | thx |
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| [05:35:00] | redline--: | anyone know any boot managers that can boot usb? |
| [05:35:00] | bones10: | it appears that the VFD and ir receiver and buttons/knob are from soundgraph and are basically iMon stuff |
| [05:36:00] | buddy: | hmm founs something |
| [05:36:00] | bones10: | redline--, uboot is supposed to be very configurable, but I don't know if it can boot over usb. you might search the net on uboot to see if that will help you. |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | f'ing laptop crashed |
| [05:36:00] | buddy: | i did a killall mythbackend |
| [05:37:00] | buddy: | then mythbackend |
| [05:37:00] | redline--: | thanks bones |
| [05:37:00] | buddy: | went to another putty screen and did mythfilldatabase |
| [05:37:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–23 23:35:05.672 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback |
| [05:37:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–23 23:35:05.672 adding: MythDora as a client (events: 0) |
| [05:37:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–23 23:35:05.680 Reschedule requested for id -1. |
| [05:37:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–23 23:35:05.686 unknown socket |
| [05:37:00] | buddy: | 2006-02–23 23:35:05.692 Scheduled 0 items in 0.0 = 0.01 match + 0.00 place |
| [05:38:00] | buddy: | like for unknown socketis strange to me |
| [05:40:00] | bones10: | is there a mailing list I can post questions to? |
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| [05:41:00] | buddy: | whats myqsl cmd to quert mythconverg database for user connections |
| [05:41:00] | danq: | Anyone have any clues as to why mythtv and mythtv-setup would have me keep going through the initial setup over and over and over again? |
| [05:42:00] | danq: | in the background it whines about not being able to connect to the DB, but I can connect using that same info on the CLI |
| [05:43:00] | bones10: | danq, you might double check the settings – user name, password, etc |
| [05:43:00] | danq: | I've quadruple-checked them. |
| [05:43:00] | danq: | Like I said, I have no problem connecting to the database on the CLI. |
| [05:43:00] | bones10: | danq, what distro are you using? |
| [05:44:00] | danq: | FC4 |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | you might, yo know, pay attention to the error message it gives you. |
| [05:44:00] | danq: | er, damnit. CentOS 4.2 |
| [05:44:00] | bones10: | lol |
| [05:44:00] | danq: | I might, like, say that it's bitching about not, like, you know, being able to connect to the database. |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | sure |
| [05:44:00] | danq: | Indeed. |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | and what's the actual error message? |
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| [05:45:00] | bones10: | when it says it can't connect to the database, does it show the host, port, login, and pw it's trying to use? |
| [05:45:00] | danq: | like, hold on, like, while uh, i like paste, like the entire error here. |
| [05:45:00] | danq: | No, bones10. |
| [05:45:00] | danq: | http://pastebin.com/569797 |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt: | try pasting the _first_ error message. |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt: | not some random one |
| [05:46:00] | buddy: | is mysql running? |
| [05:46:00] | danq: | Yes. Like, you know, I can like, connect to the database like, using like the supplied user/pass/host combo I like, give to myth |
| [05:46:00] | bones10: | in that link, it seems the first error may be further up in the output |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | no more help for you, you're being irritating. |
| [05:47:00] | redline--: | you from the valley danq? |
| [05:47:00] | danq: | In Denver for work, redline--. |
| [05:47:00] | danq: | but yea. |
| [05:47:00] | danq: | like, if you like helped like, at all like, i'd like feel bad. dude. |
| [05:47:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Chutt | |
| [05:47:00] | danq: | *sigh* |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | i asked for the error message |
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| [05:47:00] | redline--: | somones getting booted |
| [05:48:00] | danq: | I gave you the error message. I revised the error message. I warn you, again, it's the same stuff over and over again. |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | if you can't even provide that, how the fuck do you think anyone can help you? |
| [05:48:00] | danq: | http://pastebin.com/569800 |
| [05:48:00] | danq: | Because it's the same *fucking* message over and over. |
| [05:48:00] | danq: | oh shit. |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | that's not the error message |
| [05:48:00] | redline--: | go into myth and run setup general make sure the ip of hte backend is set |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | # |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | # |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| [05:48:00] | danq: | Yeah, just saw that haha! |
| [05:48:00] | danq: | Nice. |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | moron. |
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| [05:48:00] | danq was kicked from #mythtv-users by Chutt | |
| [05:49:00] | benklop: | hello |
| [05:49:00] | redline--: | lol saw that coming from a few miles away |
| [05:49:00] | benklop: | i think my DB is hosed... how do i fix it? |
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| [05:49:00] | redline--: | mysqlcheck mythconverg |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt sets mode -o Chutt | |
| [05:50:00] | bones10: | if I came back at a different time, would there be people active in here that might be able to answer my question about getting the selector knob on my case to work? |
| [05:51:00] | benklop: | aight |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | bones10, possibly |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | but you'd probably have more luck with google. |
| [05:51:00] | bones10: | Chutt, I've been googling for a while now |
| [05:51:00] | buddy: | would you know what table in mythconverge holds the data on whos allowed to connect to it? |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | buddy, no such thing. |
| [05:52:00] | bones10: | Chutt, I guess I'll try contacting the manufacture direct, see if that works. |
| [05:52:00] | buddy: | so its in global permission page on webadmin? |
| [05:52:00] | redline--: | buddy thats a seperate database |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | bones10, that's probably your best bet |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | they should at least have some idea |
| [05:52:00] | bones10: | one would hope ;-) |
| [05:53:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Chutt | |
| [05:53:00] | redline--: | buddy its mysql database under users, add the user there for mythtv |
| [05:53:00] | buddy: | OIC its database named MYSQL |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt sets mode -b *!*n=dant@*.ph.ph.cox.net | |
| [05:54:00] | buddy: | awww beat me to it :) |
| [05:54:00] | Chutt sets mode -o Chutt | |
| [05:54:00] | bones10: | Thanks all. I'm headed out. |
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| [05:55:00] | buddy: | ok I have 2 seperate entries for mythtv |
| [05:55:00] | redline--: | buddy you may have more luck with this if you use mytdora lists or possible forums |
| [05:55:00] | Beirdo: | OH GOD. |
| [05:55:00] | redline--: | i have no idea how they set that up |
| [05:55:00] | Beirdo: | no wonder it didn't work |
| [05:55:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [05:56:00] | Beirdo: | I put $dom instead of $domain |
| [05:56:00] | Beirdo: | eeediot |
| [05:56:00] | redline--: | i gotta sleep later all |
| [05:57:00] | buddy: | thak you for the help |
| [05:57:00] | redline--: | np, good luck |
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| [06:01:00] | benklop: | i think my DB is screwed... |
| [06:01:00] | phar0e: | goodnight redline! |
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| [06:01:00] | benklop: | Told to create a NEW database schema, but the database |
| [06:01:00] | benklop: | already has 42 tables. |
| [06:01:00] | benklop: | If you are sure this is a good mythtv database, verify |
| [06:01:00] | benklop: | that the settings table has the DBSchemaVer variable. |
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| [06:02:00] | benklop: | any idea how i fix this? |
| [06:02:00] | benklop: | how do i start my DB from scratch? |
| [06:04:00] | phar0e: | drop command I think |
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| [06:07:00] | benklop: | mysql drop mythconverg? |
| [06:13:00] | buddy: | doyou have webadmin working? |
| [06:15:00] | buddy: | benklop do you have webadmin working? |
| [06:17:00] | benklop: | no, but that shouldnt be to ohard to set up |
| [06:18:00] | benklop: | since its a headless myth backend that might not be a bad idea |
| [06:18:00] | buddy: | yes very good idea |
| [06:18:00] | buddy: | you starting from scratch or using a ISO like mythdora? |
| [06:18:00] | benklop: | i'm runnig gentoo though, so it may take a few mins to set up. how do i clear mysql and start over in the meantime? |
| [06:19:00] | benklop: | scraqtch, gentoo |
| [06:19:00] | benklop: | i had it working |
| [06:19:00] | buddy: | well you need 2 databases |
| [06:19:00] | buddy: | one called mythconverg |
| [06:19:00] | buddy: | another called mysql |
| [06:19:00] | benklop: | but somehow a ram stick worked itself halfway out as it ran, and the box started restarting when you tried to watch, |
| [06:19:00] | benklop: | and that killed my DB |
| [06:21:00] | benklop: | why the second? |
| [06:21:00] | buddy: | as root do mysqlcheck mythconverg |
| [06:22:00] | buddy: | 2nd db is for user permissions |
| [06:22:00] | benklop: | i already have |
| [06:23:00] | benklop: | mythfrontends complain now |
| [06:23:00] | buddy: | what error is on it? |
| [06:24:00] | benklop: | hold on, i'm rececking the DB |
| [06:27:00] | benklop: | buddy: http://pastebin.ca/42983 |
| [06:28:00] | buddy: | ok |
| [06:29:00] | buddy: | hmm my database has 65 tables not 42 |
| [06:29:00] | benklop: | yah, it was complaining on the backend about a table missing |
| [06:30:00] | buddy: | i think i'llset up weadmin to get a visual on the db |
| [06:30:00] | buddy: | what sql file are you running to create db |
| [06:30:00] | benklop: | hmm? |
| [06:33:00] | benklop: | this is how i initialized my DB |
| [06:33:00] | benklop: | mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [06:34:00] | benklop: | aught i just clear my DB and do that again? |
| [06:34:00] | buddy: | are u running it as root $ mysql -u root < mc.sql |
| [06:35:00] | benklop: | yea |
| [06:36:00] | buddy: | are you also doing /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql stop first ? |
| [06:36:00] | benklop: | i've only ever had to run that command once, so i'm not sure |
| [06:36:00] | buddy: | do su - |
| [06:36:00] | benklop: | i think that was with mysql stopped |
| [06:36:00] | buddy: | run as root |
| [06:37:00] | benklop: | run ? as root |
| [06:37:00] | buddy: | yes |
| [06:39:00] | benklop: | with mysql stopped? |
| [06:39:00] | buddy: | yes |
| [06:39:00] | benklop: | i think it needs to be runnig |
| [06:39:00] | benklop: | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| [06:39:00] | buddy: | ok then |
| [06:40:00] | buddy: | post mc.sql on that web page and I'll compare it to my database |
| [06:40:00] | benklop: | aight |
| [06:42:00] | buddy: | callsignnetworkmap |
| [06:42:00] | buddy: | capturecard |
| [06:42:00] | buddy: | cardinput |
| [06:42:00] | buddy: | channel |
| [06:42:00] | buddy: | codecparams |
| [06:43:00] | buddy: | CREATE DATABASE mythconverg; |
| [06:43:00] | buddy: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| [06:43:00] | buddy: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [06:43:00] | buddy: | GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| [06:43:00] | buddy: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES |
| [06:43:00] | buddy: | does your's look like this? |
| [06:43:00] | benklop: | roughly |
| [06:43:00] | benklop: | let me compare jas |
| [06:44:00] | benklop: | from create database downward |
| [06:44:00] | benklop: | and adds |
| [06:44:00] | benklop: | ALTER DATABASE mythconverg DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1; |
| [06:44:00] | buddy: | ok then you have database but no tables in it I THINK |
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| [06:45:00] | benklop: | well for some reason that command doesnt seem to be finishing |
| [06:45:00] | benklop: | it just sits there forever |
| [06:45:00] | benklop: | mythserver ~ # mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [06:45:00] | benklop: | just sits there forever |
| [06:46:00] | buddy: | ctl x stops it then ? |
| [06:46:00] | benklop: | yeah |
| [06:46:00] | benklop: | ctl c anyway |
| [06:46:00] | benklop: | just running ~# mysql seems to hang forever |
| [06:48:00] | buddy: | as roo do this |
| [06:48:00] | buddy: | as root do this |
| [06:48:00] | buddy: | cd /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg |
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| [06:48:00] | buddy: | then do ls |
| [06:48:00] | buddy: | tell me what u see |
| [06:48:00] | benklop: | jas |
| [06:48:00] | buddy: | what is jas? |
| [06:49:00] | benklop: | jjust a sec |
| [06:50:00] | buddy: | oic |
| [06:51:00] | benklop: | here it is: |
| [06:51:00] | benklop: | http://pastebin.ca/42985 |
| [06:52:00] | benklop: | i'm going to reset this server to see if i can make the mysql command not hang |
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| [06:53:00] | buddy: | ok well need to go to bed sry couldn help more |
| [06:53:00] | buddy: | BTW looks loke you have tabes |
| [06:53:00] | buddy: | BTW looks loke you have tables |
| [06:54:00] | buddy: | look here |
| [06:54:00] | buddy: | http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/optimize_mythdb.pl.txt |
| [06:55:00] | benklop: | thx |
| [06:55:00] | benklop: | night |
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| [06:55:00] | k-man: | has anyone started working on some sort of rss feed thing for mythtv? |
| [06:56:00] | k-man: | idealy i would like to treat rss feeds like a source of programs to record |
| [06:56:00] | k-man: | and they would show up in recordings once they have downloaded |
| [06:56:00] | k-man: | anyone thought of that idea? |
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| [07:10:00] | Woosta: | Anyone know anything about using the AVerMedia Hybrid PCMCIA cardbus on linux? I know it's not (yet) directly related to mythtv, but it will be soon :) |
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| [07:46:00] | daktak: | i've upgraded to 0.19 from 0.18 and when i record something it doesn't save a file.. |
| [07:46:00] | daktak: | the setup doesn't complain about creating a .test file after I've altered the permissions ... |
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| [08:15:00] | alc6379: | anybody here running the latest release on Gentoo? |
| [08:18:00] | daktak: | im trying :) |
| [08:18:00] | daktak: | well 0.19 at least |
| [08:23:00] | alc6379: | gotcha |
| [08:24:00] | alc6379: | any luck? Is there a particular version of MySQL you're supposed to use, or is me typing emerge mythtv on a fully synced portage tree going to do it? |
| [08:24:00] | daktak: | should be okay as long as you hav ethe mysql use flag for qt |
| [08:25:00] | alc6379: | ok |
| [08:25:00] | alc6379: | I'm just jumping off on a brand spanking new stage 3 |
| [08:25:00] | daktak: | ;-) |
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| [08:26:00] | alc6379: | cool, then I guess I'll start this emerge, and head to bed... |
| [08:26:00] | alc6379: | thanks for the info |
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| [08:27:00] | daktak: | np |
| [08:42:00] | benklop: | hello |
| [08:42:00] | benklop: | i'm having a really wierd issue with my mythtv setup |
| [08:43:00] | benklop: | my backend restarts all by itself if i start watchingTV |
| [08:44:00] | benklop: | from any frontendf |
| [08:44:00] | benklop: | i'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting this |
| [08:46:00] | benklop: | any ideas anyone |
| [08:49:00] | Calroth: | do the logs say anything? |
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| [08:50:00] | benklop: | nothing in the system logs i i could see |
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| [08:53:00] | Calroth: | what about the mythbackend logs? |
| [08:53:00] | benklop: | nothing at all but |
| [08:53:00] | benklop: | vbi: Invalid argument |
| [08:53:00] | benklop: | Starting up as the master server. |
| [08:54:00] | benklop: | a few times |
| [08:54:00] | benklop: | it doesnt always restart immediately |
| [08:54:00] | benklop: | sometimes i can watch for a bit, |
| [08:55:00] | benklop: | but it will restart eventually |
| [08:55:00] | benklop: | and it never does if i am not watching or (possibly) recording. i havnt verified if it does it on just recording |
| [08:56:00] | Calroth: | maybe you can turn on more verbose logging for mythbackend |
| [08:56:00] | benklop: | how would i do that |
| [08:58:00] | benklop: | ok, it just restarted again |
| [08:58:00] | benklop: | i tried to start watching on a second frontend |
| [09:00:00] | benklop: | could it be hardware related? |
| [09:04:00] | benklop: | this is darn frustrating |
| [09:08:00] | benklop: | ok, i have it in very verbose logging |
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| [09:16:00] | phar0e: | I'm trying to configure mythtv with firewire support but it doesn't seem to love me, is there a way I can find out where it's looking for what and failing? |
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| [09:20:00] | jarango: | Is it possible to execute xmms from mythtv ? |
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| [09:42:00] | mythmonkey: | anyone up yet??? |
| [09:43:00] | daktak: | StartRecorder() — timed out waiting for recorder to start |
| [09:43:00] | daktak: | :( its not creating files |
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| [11:08:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm |
| [11:08:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [11:12:00] | Jasper^off: | can anyone tell me the differenc ebetween the internal player and the livetv player? |
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| [11:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper^off: non really |
| [11:43:00] | mythmonkey: | Well I've just tried a 2.6.15 kernel, got exactly the same behaviour. Sound works everywhere, except in Watch TV |
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| [11:49:00] | mythmonkey: | Hi Juski |
| [11:49:00] | Juski: | hey hey hey. happy friday |
| [11:50:00] | mythmonkey: | LOL not really. I just tried a 2.6.15. No joy, I get exactly the same results |
| [11:50:00] | laga: | friday? *shrug* i'm on a one-week break from school ;) |
| [11:50:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey... see if you've got an alsa mixer device for your tv tuner |
| [11:50:00] | Juski: | hi laga |
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| [11:51:00] | laga: | hi Juski |
| [11:51:00] | mythmonkey: | Juski I have a "Video", but nothing that looks specific to the TV Card... |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey: what controls does that have? |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | a volume control & a mute button or just a mute button? |
| [11:52:00] | mythmonkey: | Oh sorry, you mean a seperate one to my sound card one? I'll go check |
| [11:52:00] | laga: | alsamixer -c1 prolly |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | there's obviously _something_ tvtime is changing in a tvcard register – just thought the driver might have it mapped to a mixer device – I think it's been known |
| [11:57:00] | mythmonkey: | nope, can't get any other mixer device up with alsamixer -c1 |
| [11:58:00] | mythmonkey: | the "video" line in alsamixer has a slider and a mute button |
| [11:58:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [11:59:00] | mythmonkey: | is there anything in v4l that might help??? |
| [11:59:00] | Jasper^off: | it's weird...Internal player failing where mplayer is working |
| [11:59:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:01:00] | laga: | so i've got this standard atx board with a normal atx PSU and a low-profile vga card as my mythfrontend. now i'd like to put it in a nice a case, any suggestions? i've got a drill.. ;) |
| [12:01:00] | Jasper^off: | can anyone tell me if it's normal that the menu is flickering like a loonatic when you have de-interlacing on? |
| [12:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Using xvmc or something ? |
| [12:01:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah |
| [12:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think many see that when using xvmc |
| [12:02:00] | Jasper^off: | wow |
| [12:02:00] | Jasper^off: | bob gives me 95% cpu usage |
| [12:02:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have no idea if it's fixed in svn or not |
| [12:05:00] | Juski: | 95%, that leave 5% for lirc :-) |
| [12:05:00] | Juski: | *leaves |
| [12:05:00] | laga: | actually, bobdeint doesn't flicker for me with xvmc (and opengl vsync, dunno if this affects playback) |
| [12:06:00] | Juski: | bob doesn't flicker for me either but then I'm outputting interlaced video |
| [12:06:00] | Juski: | matters not whether I deinterlace any more :-) |
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| [12:06:00] | Juski: | someone needs to see if nvidia drivers can still do interlaced modes |
| [12:07:00] | laga: | 7676 can do them, at least on my gf4 mx |
| [12:07:00] | Merlin83b: | I should try turning that off. |
| [12:09:00] | Juski: | time to go buy my dinner & have my wallet raped at the petrol station |
| [12:10:00] | mythmonkey: | ouch |
| [12:11:00] | fryfrog: | Juski: suv? :) |
| [12:11:00] | fryfrog: | with 2 tanks? |
| [12:11:00] | fryfrog: | anyone here married, getting married or have been married? |
| [12:12:00] | ** GreyFoxx is getting married in a month and a half ** | |
| [12:12:00] | fryfrog: | doing anything special for the wedding? |
| [12:12:00] | fryfrog: | i'm looking for ideas :/ |
| [12:12:00] | fryfrog: | (non-church) |
| [12:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | flying us and our family down to the dominican for the ceremony |
| [12:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | 15 of us are going |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | wow, nice! |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | how long? |
| [12:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1 week |
| [12:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | MUCH MUCH lessstress than planning awedding |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | I am interested in doing a cruise wedding, but gf doesn't like that :( |
| [12:13:00] | laga: | go to vegas? |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | Destination would be nice to :) |
| [12:13:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [12:14:00] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: are *you* paying for your guests, or are they paying their own way? |
| [12:14:00] | fryfrog: | i mean, air fare and hotel |
| [12:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: the dominican has a lot of nice cheap 1 week all inclusive packages |
| [12:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's costing $1545 Canadian per person |
| [12:14:00] | fryfrog: | not terrible |
| [12:14:00] | Layer01 is now known as Layer01snooze | |
| [12:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | in Punta Cana at one of the nicest resorts( with a casino hehe) |
| [12:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, paying for us, and half of my sisters |
| [12:15:00] | Jasper^off: | is it normal that audio/video syncing takes longer with xvmc? |
| [12:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | everyone else is paying their own |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [12:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's costing a lot less than a nromal wedding (which I really don't like) |
| [12:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | and less planning crap |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | $1500 is righta bout what a cruise would cost too |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | give or take |
| [12:16:00] | fryfrog: | what are you doing for photography? |
| [12:16:00] | fryfrog: | just wing it? |
| [12:16:00] | fryfrog: | or do you have some package wedding tyhing? |
| [12:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd say go to Cuba, it's gorgeous and closer to $1000 per person for a week all inclusive |
| [12:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if you are in the US you can't |
| [12:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: most resorts including ours have wedding packages. They are doing the ceremony for free |
| [12:17:00] | fryfrog: | sounds spiffy |
| [12:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | but we either hire our own photographer or pay the hotels one |
| [12:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | we almost chose Cuba but the GF wanted to go back to the Dominican |
| [12:17:00] | fryfrog: | we had an awsome week in cozumel, but it was all diving :) |
| [12:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can't wait, there are a few of the side trips I pla n to take |
| [12:18:00] | Jasper^off: | :p |
| [12:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | snorkelling of course, swimming with the dolphins, swimming with the sharks/feeding them, parasailing, renting seadoos, etc |
| [12:19:00] | Jasper^off: | swimming with sharks.. |
| [12:19:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm |
| [12:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, cool stuff |
| [12:19:00] | fryfrog: | have you been there before? you said your gf had |
| [12:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | She has, I've been to the Carribean a few times, but never there |
| [12:19:00] | fryfrog: | afk, stupid work |
| [12:22:00] | mythmonkey: | WOOOOO HOOOOO!!!! |
| [12:22:00] | mythmonkey: | ITS WORKING!!! |
| [12:22:00] | Jasper^off: | hmmmm, anyone here know why the audio/video is out of sync the first few seconds when I DON'T INTERLACE |
| [12:22:00] | Jasper^off: | with xvmc on |
| [12:23:00] | Juski: | Jasper: cos you've got a crappy underpowered CPU ;-) |
| [12:24:00] | Jasper^off: | is that really the reason ? :P |
| [12:24:00] | laga: | i thought he was using an amd64? |
| [12:24:00] | Jasper^off: | because the cpu load doesn't get really high |
| [12:24:00] | Juski: | Jasper: my experience with an 800mhz box seemed to say so |
| [12:24:00] | Jasper^off: | no laga....pIII |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | what speed? |
| [12:25:00] | Jasper^off: | 800 |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | that should be sufficient |
| [12:25:00] | Jasper^off: | well it is |
| [12:25:00] | Jasper^off: | it's just when I switch channels |
| [12:26:00] | Jasper^off: | the first ffew seconds it has to sync for some reason |
| [12:26:00] | Juski: | I used to find that playback takes a little while to get up to speed |
| [12:26:00] | laga: | is the audio out of sync then or is it just stuttering? |
| [12:26:00] | Jasper^off: | audio is fine |
| [12:26:00] | Jasper^off: | it's the video |
| [12:26:00] | Jasper^off: | that has to sync in |
| [12:26:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:26:00] | laga: | playback is very smooth for me, except when the OSD vanishes – i need to fix that |
| [12:26:00] | Jasper^off: | and it's only with xvmc on |
| [12:26:00] | laga: | Jasper^off: go to /usr/share/mythtv/themes/<ourosdtheme>/osd.xml and set the fadeaway stuff to 0 there. |
| [12:27:00] | laga: | and try again |
| [12:27:00] | Jasper^off: | it's time I find a job...and get a better cpu :P |
| [12:27:00] | Juski: | so be a good lad & don't use live tv ;-) |
| [12:27:00] | laga: | Jasper^off: well, when you're unemployed, you have a lot of tiome to make playback perfect on a low-power cpu :) |
| [12:27:00] | mythmonkey: | Juski I got it working :-D |
| [12:27:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah but no money laga! |
| [12:27:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey: wth was it? |
| [12:27:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:27:00] | laga: | Jasper^off: heh |
| [12:28:00] | mythmonkey: | I downloaded and installed xawtv, then used v4lctl to unmute the tv card. Hey presto, sound!!! |
| [12:28:00] | mythmonkey: | thanks for all your help mate, I would of given up without you taking an interest :) |
| [12:28:00] | Juski: | funny I was just thinking that in the massive long queue @ the petrol station while watching the checkout girls chew gum open-mouthed |
| [12:29:00] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: does 1500 include airfare? |
| [12:29:00] | Jasper^off: | GreyFoxx hire a plane and I'll fly you freely :P |
| [12:29:00] | mythmonkey: | lol you were definitely on the right track. i had read about v4lctl, but thought it was a standard tool, but then i couldn't find it. so it seems thats all it is; myth can't unmute the card |
| [12:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: Yes |
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| [12:30:00] | Juski__: | damn break key |
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| [12:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper^off: I'd rather get my own pilots license :) |
| [12:30:00] | Jasper^off: | why's that? |
| [12:30:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:30:00] | Jasper^off: | don't trust me |
| [12:30:00] | Jasper^off: | 8( |
| [12:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | BEcause I want to get it anyway :) |
| [12:30:00] | mythmonkey: | well, my week off hasn't been _totally_ wasted... |
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| [12:31:00] | Jasper^off: | GreyFoxx then go get it :P |
| [12:31:00] | Juski__: | arggh |
| [12:31:00] | mythmonkey: | lol |
| [12:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper^off: once my little one is a little older and I have the time, I plan on it |
| [12:31:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:31:00] | Jasper^off: | I just finished with it |
| [12:31:00] | Jasper^off: | got my ATPL license |
| [12:31:00] | Merlin83b: | You did? Nice one. |
| [12:31:00] | ** Merlin83b is a PPL. ** | |
| [12:32:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah...that's why I'm unemployed |
| [12:32:00] | Jasper^off: | waiting for KLM .. |
| [12:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [12:32:00] | laga: | duh, abbreviation hell ;) |
| [12:32:00] | Jasper^off: | or british airways......depends which one is faster |
| [12:32:00] | Jasper^off: | :p |
| [12:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Jasper^off: Not teaching or anything in the meantime? |
| [12:32:00] | Jasper^off: | hehe laga :P the osd to 0 helped a lot |
| [12:32:00] | Juski__: | go work for RyanAir.. or not ;-) |
| [12:33:00] | mythmonkey: | right, i'm off for some lunch now, thanks for all the help guys, especially Juski |
| [12:33:00] | Jasper^off: | men...never...I will never fly for ryanair |
| [12:33:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:33:00] | daktak: | anyone in melb aus with dvb? trying to scan for sbs and 536500000 isn't bringing me any luck |
| [12:33:00] | Jasper^off: | Merlin83b you need your instructor license for that |
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| [12:33:00] | laga: | Jasper^off: :) yay. i still have to make that change :). want some other hints for optimizing the tv-out? |
| [12:33:00] | Jasper^off: | sure |
| [12:33:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
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| [12:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Jasper^off: But it would keep some money moving while you wait on a right hand seat :-) |
| [12:33:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah I know... |
| [12:33:00] | laga: | Jasper^off: here we go: http://laga.ath.cx/~laga/tvout-nvidia_chutt.txt |
| [12:34:00] | Jasper^off: | but I like my free time |
| [12:34:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [12:34:00] | Juski__: | Jasper^off: you need all the free time. your mythtv won't go breaking itself now will it? ;-) |
| [12:34:00] | Merlin83b: | ANd there's the trade off. Free time or cash :-) |
| [12:35:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. Anyone know the right person to contact about adding a new download item on the beta download pages. I've a download location for myth RPMs for suse10 machines. |
| [12:35:00] | Merlin83b: | simon_c: I guess that'd be Chutt, but he's probably asleep right now. Try back in a few hours :-) |
| [12:35:00] | simon_c: | OK. Will do. |
| [12:35:00] | ** Merlin83b goes for lunch., ** | |
| [12:35:00] | Jasper^off: | Juski I was planning on formatting it again.,..since it works now...nothing left to do 8p |
| [12:36:00] | Jasper^off: | laga when I enable bob it messes up my osd |
| [12:36:00] | Juski__: | xvmc does that |
| [12:36:00] | Juski__: | and bob |
| [12:36:00] | Jasper^off: | well without deinterlacing |
| [12:36:00] | Jasper^off: | it doesn't |
| [12:36:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
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| [12:38:00] | Juski__: | nice Register BOFH today |
| [12:39:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm laga |
| [12:39:00] | Jasper^off: | what's the use of opengl vertical syncing ? |
| [12:39:00] | fryfrog: | Oh, new one? |
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| [12:40:00] | Jasper^off: | ah I see the difference |
| [12:40:00] | Jasper^off: | 95% cpu load instead of 40 |
| [12:40:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
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| [12:41:00] | Juski__: | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/24/bofh_2006_episode_8/ |
| [12:41:00] | Juski__: | "Well I logged in as root earlier and I was just going to try that ps thing you mentioned, but instead I accidentally typed in 'nohup cd /; rm -rf * > /dev/null 2>&1 &' " |
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| [12:45:00] | simon_c: | bofh is always good for a laff |
| [12:47:00] | Brov: | I use bob double frame rate and interlaced, what happens if you use bob double rate non interlaced. DOES it send a whole frame at the same speed as the interlaced but EACH frame only updated with either odd or even lines? |
| [12:48:00] | Brov: | Is the AIM of using interlaced to try to 'pass thru' the ORIGINAL interlaced frames unaltered to avoide signal degredation? |
| [12:50:00] | Juski__: | yes Brov the aim of using an interlaced video mode is to show the stream unaltered |
| [12:50:00] | Brov: | and my first question? |
| [12:51:00] | Juski__: | Brov: basically yes |
| [12:52:00] | Brov: | I seem to remember when getting this working that there was a lot of talk about WHICH video cards would allow the frames to pass through unaltered, BUT surely once you scale or filter the image this is lost? |
| [12:52:00] | Jasper^off: | ok time to mess around :P |
| [12:52:00] | Juski__: | Brov: you lose some if you re-scale, yes |
| [12:52:00] | simon_c: | I wanted to setup a parallell myth system, to test 0.19 on my setup. I've got a couple of spare boxes I can use as a front and back end, but no TV cards. If I copy the database from the current master back end, what tabels to I need to keep copied to see the new recordings, and schedules etc ? |
| [12:53:00] | Juski__: | always best to use native resolutions of the formats you've recorded ;-) |
| [12:54:00] | Brov: | SO if say you wanted to use Twinview to a monitor AND interlaced TV, your best bet is to use bob double frame rate (non interlaced) I guess the video->tv on your video card will then deinterlace to the tv and the vga gets a progressive image that is like fake interlaced |
| [12:55:00] | Juski__: | Brov: if you're doing twinview, chances are both modes will be progressive |
| [12:55:00] | Juski__: | hence the need to deinterlace in the 1st place ;-) |
| [12:57:00] | Brov: | yer so i guess for the tv, we get an interlaced broadcast signal, then bob double frame rate it to be progressive, one signal goes to vga as progressive the other signal goes to tv, the video card converts the progressive vga signal to an interlaced tv signal |
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| [12:58:00] | Juski__: | Brov: specifically the tvencoder on the graphics card would do the very last bit |
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| [12:59:00] | Jasper^off: | anyone know how I can set mythtv to auto-login? |
| [13:00:00] | Jasper^off: | I found this in a manual : Configure mythtv to be the autologin account using the Configure option |
| [13:00:00] | Jasper^off: | which configure option? |
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| [13:00:00] | Brov: | there is a utility in x to configure stuff |
| [13:00:00] | Brov: | i think it will bge under apps | system |
| [13:00:00] | Juski__: | depends which desktop manager you use |
| [13:01:00] | Jasper^off: | well |
| [13:01:00] | Jasper^off: | none |
| [13:01:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
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| [13:01:00] | Jasper^off: | I only got xdm |
| [13:01:00] | Juski__: | there's a huge raft of wikis devoted to this |
| [13:01:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah I found one |
| [13:01:00] | Jasper^off: | but it tells I have to use gdm |
| [13:01:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [13:03:00] | Brov: | If I am using deinterlace bob double frame rate in myth then presumably despite using interlaced output I am NOT passing through original interlaced signal |
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| [13:04:00] | Juski__: | Brov: you'd know if you were using a proper interlaced output when playing an interlaced strem |
| [13:05:00] | Juski__: | here's the sometimes hard to believe part: your tv output on your graphics card is always outputting interlaced video. the difference is in what it gets from the GPU ;-) |
| [13:05:00] | laga: | if you use a deinterlacing filter, why would you expect it to produce interlaced video? ;) |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper^off: | I don't even see a difference between interlaced or not |
| [13:06:00] | Brov: | SO if using an interlaced monitor setting I presume i should not be doing ANY deinterlacing |
| [13:07:00] | ** simon_c has been following this conversation sligtly. ** | |
| [13:07:00] | simon_c: | So, is that why I can watch something on the laptop and it looks crap, but on the TV screen it looks fine. |
| [13:07:00] | simon_c: | Intlacing ? |
| [13:07:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [13:07:00] | Juski__: | interlacing? yup |
| [13:07:00] | Brov: | presumably IF on his laptop he uses bob double frame rate it will look a lot better? |
| [13:08:00] | simon_c: | So this is a use ofe new playback filters ? Set a de-interlace playback filter on the laptop, leave the file unchanged for the TCs ? |
| [13:08:00] | Juski__: | Brov: you'd need to be using an _interlaced_ video mode |
| [13:08:00] | Brov: | I AM using an interlaced video mode |
| [13:08:00] | ** Juski__ bangs his head on the desk. it was a good day til now ** | |
| [13:08:00] | Juski__: | Brov: if you were, then you |
| [13:08:00] | Juski__: | you'd not need to deinterlace |
| [13:09:00] | Brov: | ModeLine "PAL1" 15.125 720 770 842 968 576 579 607 625 interlace |
| [13:09:00] | simon_c: | Jasper^off: You can autologin with KDM too. |
| [13:09:00] | Brov: | Or ModeLine "PAL3" 13.75 720 744 800 880 576 581 583 625 interlace -hsync -vsync |
| [13:09:00] | Juski__: | but if you have to deinterlace so it doesn't look crap, then erm... it's not working in interlaced mode |
| [13:09:00] | Juski__: | how many more times do I have to say this? |
| [13:10:00] | laga: | well, i had playback looking like crap even when i was using an interlaced mode since Xv would mess with the frames or something. |
| [13:10:00] | laga: | fields* |
| [13:10:00] | Juski__: | possible I suppose |
| [13:10:00] | Juski__: | comes from rescaling the video too |
| [13:11:00] | Brov: | I think my confusion is about the diff between passing an interlaced signal to tv encoder BY using an interlaced video output mode VERSUS passing a progressive signal to the tv encoder and letting it do the deinterlacing |
| [13:11:00] | Juski__: | anyway I'm off outta here before I put my keyboard through my screen |
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| [13:11:00] | laga: | yeah. though i was recording at 720x576. |
| [13:13:00] | Brov: | Getting a GOOD TV output signal from a PC seems to be a black art. Ironic as if you cant get a good tv image (assuming most people will use MythTV on a TV) then it ruins the whole potential |
| [13:13:00] | Brov: | I HAVE not managed to get a signal nearly as good as my 6 year old DTV box |
| [13:13:00] | simon_c: | Brov: Yep. |
| [13:14:00] | Brov: | BUT acceptable. |
| [13:14:00] | laga: | you can get quite good results with nvidia cards. http://www.sput.nl/hardware/tv-x.html – this looks interesting, though |
| [13:14:00] | simon_c: | Brov: My 28" wide screen is still not quite using the fill width of the screen, and has a slight kink on the top 5% of the screen. (not really noticiable) |
| [13:14:00] | laga: | matrox cards with directfb have awesome quality, in my opinion. sad that the directfb output driver for mythtv is rather crappy ;) |
| [13:15:00] | simon_c: | Brov: And the 21" standard TV I had to use a vga-tv converter to get it to work at all, and the colors are still not quite right (but good enough for #1 offspring to watch) |
| [13:15:00] | laga: | for some reasons, both of my TVs show a slight color distortion in the left upper part of the screen. with different hardware attached. :/ |
| [13:15:00] | Brov: | well then you need to overscan to use the full screen. Stand alone boxes overscan loads if you compare them side by side and look at the logo positions |
| [13:16:00] | simon_c: | Brov: Ahh. And that would be an X option for the gfx card driver normally ? |
| [13:16:00] | Brov: | no what gfx card is it |
| [13:16:00] | simon_c: | nvidia IIRC |
| [13:17:00] | Brov: | well you CAN put Option "TVOverScan" "1.0" in the monitor section (change 1.0 to what val you need) |
| [13:17:00] | Brov: | BUT |
| [13:17:00] | laga: | nvidia-settings is a nice tool to fiddle with overscan. isaac gave me some hints regarding good tv-out with nvidia cards. http://laga.ath.cx/~laga/tvout-nvidia_chutt.txt |
| [13:17:00] | Brov: | I prefer to use nvidia-settings |
| [13:17:00] | simon_c: | thanks. |
| [13:18:00] | laga: | nvidia-settings is stupid since it won't set up overscan properly in my (and other people's) setup. i have to set it to '24' first, then to '25', if it's started automagically on boot |
| [13:18:00] | Brov: | you can run it WHILE you watch a cartoon to set the colours and overscan BUT you then need nvidia-settings -l to be called when x is rerun to reload the settings |
| [13:20:00] | simon_c: | that is the wacky think with Myth. Myth tends to work easilly, and well. It's all the rest of the linux system, that is just not ready for the livingroom yet. When I got my system setup the first time, I spent *ages* on the remote control setup. |
| [13:21:00] | simon_c: | Still haven't got the new remote on the dvb-t card setup yet instead of the crappy one that came with the analogue card. |
| [13:21:00] | Brov: | I BET you didnt spend as long on the remote control setup as I did :) |
| [13:21:00] | Brov: | I set my remote up to control Xmame :) |
| [13:22:00] | simon_c: | Brov: It was days. Well, about 3 hours a night for several nights. |
| [13:22:00] | Brov: | BUT its crap |
| [13:22:00] | simon_c: | Brov: Supprisingly, setging up the bought/home-brued receiver that pluges into the serial port for the lapton frontend was dead easy. Even programming a new remote for it. |
| [13:22:00] | Brov: | yer my unix knowledge wasnt too great a month ago. I think Myth is actually a subversive project to MAKE people learn unix |
| [13:23:00] | Brov: | :) |
| [13:23:00] | simon_c: | I guess I learned enough the first time roung. :-) |
| [13:23:00] | simon_c: | lol |
| [13:23:00] | Brov: | It's like the BEST adventure game I ever played :) |
| [13:24:00] | Brov: | gotta get the .lircrc info from agent hauppauge to be able to access remoteland while picking up unix tips on the way for bonus points |
| [13:25:00] | simon_c: | :-) |
| [13:25:00] | Brov: | I think I need to read a good sysadmin book |
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| [13:26:00] | ** simon_c just needs more time. ** | |
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| [13:26:00] | Brov: | maybe eventually I'll start developing on it, to get stuff I want |
| [13:28:00] | Brov: | One thing I don't understand is if you go to LiveTV while recording (single tuner) it msgs you, 'tuner is busy'? Why doesnt it just play the current stream from the current live position |
| [13:28:00] | simon_c: | Well, my long term plan is to get the suse RPMs into good enough shape to get them included in the packman repository, then start looking at the development tree. I'd like to play with mythweb, maybe document the database layout, and abstract it to make it easier to write web modules. But I've not even seen what they've done with 0.19 mythweb yet. |
| [13:29:00] | Brov: | I know you can go to current recordings | recording in progress to chase play it, BUT it must be easy to do it automatically |
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| [13:29:00] | simon_c: | Brov: I've no idea. |
| [13:30:00] | Brov: | if say you had a mythbackend with dual tuners and say 4 Haup-MVP myth frontends, it seems you would only be able to watch tv on 2 of them |
| [13:30:00] | simon_c: | I'd like some getter transcoding and DVD ripping options too. (Again, i've not looked at what's in 0.19 yet) I'm just looking at dvd::rip, and it's very cool to be able to rip on one box, and use other boxes to do the transcoding. That would be nice to have built into myth. |
| [13:30:00] | Brov: | as they are unable to share? |
| [13:30:00] | simon_c: | Brov: Is that the case with 0.19 ? Cos now live TV is just a recording too. |
| [13:31:00] | Brov: | i dunno i aint used 0.19 |
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| [13:31:00] | simon_c: | Brov: Well, that might sort it. 0.19 has changed things so that live TV is a recording, so you can (for example) start recording a live TV stream as you watch it, and save the entire show (I think) |
| [13:31:00] | Brov: | One thing is for sure, If/ehn i upgrade I will do so using a second (identical) drive |
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| [13:32:00] | Brov: | as i would be too scared i might break what i have done, though i have very indepth notes about every little thing i di |
| [13:33:00] | simon_c: | Brov: Yep. Just planning my upgrade. right now. The last thing I need is for the other half to be giving me ear-ache about why I've broken something that was working very well. |
| [13:33:00] | Brov: | Yer I think the ideal is a wireless mythbackend in the loft with tiny wireless mvp's dotted around the house |
| [13:33:00] | Brov: | yer i mean a new drive is like cheap vs the timeout |
| [13:34:00] | Brov: | I would hopefully clone the drive then upgrade one of them |
| [13:35:00] | simon_c: | Well, on my setup, I've got the master backend on one box, NFS mouning several disks on my main server. So, I'm planning to make the server the new master backend, dupelicate the datebase for a while, to make sure it seems to work, then cut over the old master backend into a non-master backend. At least the front end updates should just be a case of rpm -Uvh |
| [13:36:00] | Juski: | cloning is all well & good if you have the time & spare disks |
| [13:36:00] | Juski: | this time last week all I did was back up my database & upgrade |
| [13:36:00] | Juski: | the likelihood of trashing the OS during a software upgrade is pretty minimal |
| [13:37:00] | laga: | Juski: have you ever used fedora? ;) |
| [13:37:00] | Juski: | ah |
| [13:37:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [13:38:00] | Juski: | just had 3TB worth of disks dumped on my desk. how nice |
| [13:38:00] | laga: | do you have my address? ;) |
| [13:38:00] | Juski: | hmm 3 of these 500GB baracudas would look nice inside my backend |
| [13:39:00] | simon_c: | Juski:Yeh, but I want to move my backend anyway. I want to get it sorted so the box in the livingroom (wuth the TV cards) can record even if the database + disk server go down. Or at least continue with it's recording. Currently I've got worst of both worlds. A very slow, crappy disk on the main backend, with the myth store on a different box. So if I loose anything the entire setup's gone. |
| [13:39:00] | simon_c: | Juski: Yep, think they woudl look good in mine too ;-) |
| [13:40:00] | Juski: | simon_c: fair play |
| [13:40:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm I think I just fscked my box :( |
| [13:40:00] | Juski: | all the HDDs we use right now are maxtors.. aparently since maxtor were bought out, only seagate products will be shipped from a certain date |
| [13:41:00] | Juski: | I have to re-evaluate every single model |
| [13:41:00] | simon_c: | What's the percived wisdom of multi disk setups for myth ? Multiple mounted partitions, with the old programs symlinked from the main disk to the other store areas ? I'm always a bit nervos of raid0 arrays when there's not a DLT autocahnger on hand to backup. |
| [13:41:00] | simon_c: | Ahh. |
| [13:41:00] | Juski: | simon_c: at the end of the day it's only TV |
| [13:42:00] | simon_c: | Juski: No, at the end of the day it's the other half giving me a very hard time if I stuff goes missing. |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | so get RAID5 |
| [13:42:00] | simon_c: | Juski: true |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | actually no.. RAID is still no use without backups |
| [13:42:00] | Jasper^off: | oh man...I get like 100 errors about /sbin/depscan.sh |
| [13:42:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [13:43:00] | simon_c: | Juski: Well, the disk server isn't in an obvious place, so it's *probably* OK in event of a burglary. But fire on the other hand. ..... |
| [13:44:00] | Juski: | if you have a house fire the last thing on your mind will be your precious recordings |
| [13:44:00] | simon_c: | Exactly. |
| [13:44:00] | Juski: | same thinking for burglary |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | only one is less harrowing for everyone involved |
| [13:45:00] | simon_c: | Not so sure. Burglary here is in, grab and out. You lose some CDs, DVDs, a bit of electronics equipment. A fire you loose everything. |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | hard to put figures on it |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | block where I used to live, a couple of people had their places cleaned out |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | came home to a bare flat, one of them. no signs of a breakin either |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | I moved out pretty quick |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | aaanyway |
| [13:47:00] | simon_c: | Ahh. I live in a nice neghbourhood, with an alarm, and with naghbours who would take an interst if it were to go off. So, different risks. |
| [13:47:00] | Juski: | make your house airtight, then if the alarm goes off, pump carbon dioxide in |
| [13:47:00] | Juski: | :-D |
| [13:47:00] | simon_c: | lol |
| [13:47:00] | Jasper^off: | man |
| [13:47:00] | Brov: | Maxtor – crikey!!!! |
| [13:48:00] | Brov: | I've had at least a 50% failure rate on maxtors |
| [13:48:00] | Juski: | Brov: we get very good reliability here |
| [13:48:00] | simon_c: | Actually, there's they hailon here they don't really need |
| [13:48:00] | Merlin83b: | (That from a professional) |
| [13:48:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah an carbon mono? |
| [13:48:00] | Brov: | this is just me at home I've sent 4 back in the last 3 years |
| [13:48:00] | dasOp is now known as dasop | |
| [13:48:00] | Jasper^off: | Juski ? what's the use of pumping are in :P |
| [13:48:00] | dasop is now known as dasOp | |
| [13:48:00] | Brov: | I'm Strictly Seagate now |
| [13:48:00] | Jasper^off: | air |
| [13:48:00] | Jasper^off: | : |
| [13:48:00] | Juski: | bah you never know what a vendor has been doing with the boxes |
| [13:49:00] | Juski: | we get em direct |
| [13:49:00] | Juski: | less than 1% fail rate here |
| [13:49:00] | Brov: | well my maxtors failed after 2–3 years of working |
| [13:49:00] | Jasper^off: | is it possible to use subitltes with the internal player? |
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| [13:49:00] | Juski: | better than their published specs which ain't bad going |
| [13:49:00] | Brov: | im not talking about DOA |
| [13:49:00] | Juski: | and Brov: now maxtor are owned by seagate, so that's either very good for maxtor people or bad for seagate fans |
| [13:50:00] | Juski: | I'm not talking DOA either |
| [13:50:00] | Juski: | our returned units rate < 1% |
| [13:50:00] | Brov: | last i bought was 2 x segate sata now on a raid they were mispriced at ebuyer |
| [13:50:00] | Jasper^off: | Juski do you know if it' spossible to use subtitles when watching videos? |
| [13:51:00] | Juski: | marketing peeps were alarmed by even that so we called the manufacturers here to look at our processes – they were amazed |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | so i thought i'll 'ave a cuttlah them mate |
| [13:51:00] | Juski: | Jasper^off: I don't watch anything with subtitles, so I dunno |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | yer subtitles are easy |
| [13:51:00] | Jasper^off: | how brov? |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | hang on |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | # Hash -> Cycle forward through subtitles |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | begin |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | prog = mplayer |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | button = Hash |
| [13:51:00] | Brov: | repeat = 3 |
| [13:52:00] | Brov: | config = sub_select |
| [13:52:00] | Brov: | end |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper^off: | I mean with the internal player |
| [13:52:00] | Brov: | thats my entry in my .lircrc file |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | Brov: that's mplayer |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper^off: | cuz I can't seem to control mplayer when I use that |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper^off: | my keyboard is like irresponsive |
| [13:52:00] | Brov: | what internal player |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper^off: | is that normal? |
| [13:52:00] | Brov: | mplayer is the internal player isnt it |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | Brov: mythtv's internal player of course |
| [13:52:00] | Brov: | or whatever you set it to be |
| [13:53:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah |
| [13:53:00] | Jasper^off: | but I can't control mplayer with the keyboard for some reason |
| [13:53:00] | Jasper^off: | or is that normal? |
| [13:53:00] | Juski: | you can set it to 'internal' & myth will use the same player it uses for TV |
| [13:53:00] | Brov: | which is mplayer isnt it |
| [13:53:00] | Juski: | no |
| [13:54:00] | Brov: | oic what is the internal player then |
| [13:54:00] | Juski: | I find xine to be very good – can't think of any reason to use mplayer |
| [13:54:00] | Jasper^off: | can I use irxevent for mplayer? |
| [13:55:00] | Juski: | xine supports dvd menus, and via XvMC, so that's reason enough not to use mplayer |
| [13:55:00] | simon_c: | well, we've lost two 4 disk IDE raid 5 arrays in the last year and they were all maxtors. One array lost 2 disks, the other lost 4 |
| [13:55:00] | simon_c: | 3 |
| [13:55:00] | Brov: | yer i just setup xine, need to get spdif working |
| [13:55:00] | fryfrog: | simon_c: at the *same* time??? |
| [13:55:00] | simon_c: | fryfrog: Yep |
| [13:56:00] | fryfrog: | that is the king of unlukcy :( |
| [13:56:00] | fryfrog: | i try to keep track of their SMART status |
| [13:56:00] | Juski: | everyone has horror stories about all kinds of manufacturers |
| [13:56:00] | fryfrog: | except microsoft, everyone loves them |
| [13:56:00] | Juski: | especially when they're in a company who use as many as we do |
| [13:56:00] | fryfrog: | never read anything bad about em |
| [13:57:00] | simon_c: | fryfrog: Yeh. Story was, server died for some reason, rebooted, and the fsck put so much stress on the drives, they failed. |
| [13:57:00] | fryfrog: | damn, how old were they? |
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| [13:58:00] | Brov: | I'm sure all drive manu's are similar but FOR me I have had Sooooo many maxtors fail as have friends that 'I' no longer will buy them, BUT I'm sure if I worked for large company then maybe it would even out among diff manu's |
| [13:58:00] | Baylink: | It's not just you; Maxtors suck. |
| [13:58:00] | Juski: | we sued to deal with seagate & had fails of >10% |
| [13:58:00] | Juski: | tried hitachi for a while.. fails >15% |
| [13:59:00] | Brov: | all mine died within time RMA them BUT then one of the RMA'd one's FAILED again 9 month later, BUT retue only had 3 months warranty hence binned!! |
| [13:59:00] | Juski: | heh. |
| [13:59:00] | Brov: | mayeb they all suck |
| [14:00:00] | Juski: | Seagate call this a datasheet? there's no power consumption info on there |
| [14:00:00] | Brov: | one thing Maxtor DID teach me though is to BACKUP stuff! |
| [14:00:00] | Brov: | stax of dvdr's |
| [14:00:00] | Brov: | + ghost of all my installs |
| [14:00:00] | simon_c: | fryfrog: 9 months the first. About 18months the 2nd |
| [14:01:00] | fryfrog: | yuck |
| [14:01:00] | Juski: | only ever had one HDD die on me – and that was a Deathstar 80GB |
| [14:01:00] | Brov: | mind u my myth is on a maxtor that ironically has been giving errors every now and then, yesterday it was claiming to be a maxtor romulus and myth would get stuck during boot |
| [14:02:00] | Juski: | god am I sorry I brought the subject of HDDs up in the company of zealots |
| [14:02:00] | Brov: | i turned off smart, changed from CS to master and used slave ide connector on cable (not ideal) but.... |
| [14:02:00] | simon_c: | lol |
| [14:02:00] | Juski: | next up... Via vs other chipsets |
| [14:03:00] | Brov: | VIA SUCK!!! |
| [14:03:00] | Brov: | crikey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| [14:03:00] | simon_c: | bbl |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | then can we have KDE vs Gnome? |
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| [14:03:00] | Brov: | LOL |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | then FreeBSD vs Linux |
| [14:03:00] | Brov: | i'm strictly nvidia and seagate |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | Via suck so much that I had to upset > 6 months uptime to upgrade my backend's HDD to a larger one |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | zealots. like I said |
| [14:04:00] | Brov: | I think it comes down to the personal problems you experience |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | YMMV |
| [14:04:00] | Brov: | I experienced the via usb disconnect adls modem problem about 4 years ago ironically under freebsd |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | bah USB |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | USB sucks |
| [14:05:00] | Brov: | caused me endless problems so I consequently HATE via for wasting so much of my time |
| [14:05:00] | Brov: | well yer this was in early adsl days though when routers cost $$$ |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | actually I've yet to hear of ADSL not being sucky |
| [14:05:00] | Brov: | as 'I' have RMA'd 3 + binned 1 maxtor drive in recent years I also do not trust them |
| [14:05:00] | Brov: | once bitten... |
| [14:06:00] | Brov: | BUT this is just my personal experience |
| [14:06:00] | dasOp: | it is |
| [14:06:00] | dasOp: | for me, they all die equally well |
| [14:06:00] | Brov: | but thats all we have to go on |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | you should see how carefully you have to treat em |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | no moving the machine while it's powered up |
| [14:06:00] | Jasper^off: | how do I see if mplayer has support for lirc? |
| [14:07:00] | dasOp: | only brand that hasnt died on me yet is hitachi, but they're quite new with consumer level stuff |
| [14:07:00] | dasOp: | yet to have a wd raptor die on me tho |
| [14:07:00] | Brov: | I have to admit back in 1984 when i sat there coding on my spectrum I assumed by now computers would be rock solid!! |
| [14:07:00] | Juski: | hitachi – they're making the IBM deathstars now |
| [14:07:00] | Brov: | by now |
| [14:07:00] | dasOp: | deathstar was one series |
| [14:08:00] | dasOp: | dont think there's much left of the ibm stuff, its been hitachi for some years now |
| [14:08:00] | dasOp: | Brov: I had a commodore, I knew they wouldnt be :P |
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| [14:09:00] | phar0e: | hi |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | computers back then... they were nowhere near as complex. the memory map for peripherals was fixed & well known. now it's erm... an ever-changing nightmare |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: otherwise known as "more fun" |
| [14:10:00] | Brov: | in the UK they have these great ads. Sound of a spectrum tape loading, then "do you rememebr the good old days... well maybe now you need nivia face cream for men" (they've figured the spectrum kids are now 30 somethings) |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | Beirdo yeh. in 1984 who'd have dreamt that we'd all be recording telly on computers |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | true enough |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | face cream for gay men? nothing new there |
| [14:10:00] | Brov: | lol |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | for vain men? okay slightly newer |
| [14:10:00] | phar0e: | anyone want to ease my pain and help with either a.) firewire <=> sa3250 or b.) pchd-3000 |
| [14:11:00] | Brov: | anyway nice chatting l8r |
| [14:11:00] | Juski: | okees Brov |
| [14:11:00] | Juski: | say one thing about these seagates though – they are less thirsty than maxtors.. and that'll be good – less heat! |
| [14:12:00] | dasOp: | good thing about seagate is that they're quite quiet |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | yeh – a good 3dB down on maxtors |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | (half as loud) |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | not that maxtors are noisy like |
| [14:13:00] | dasOp: | god damn logarithmic scales! :P |
| [14:13:00] | dasOp: | the raptor is kinda noisy |
| [14:13:00] | dasOp: | not exactly frontend material |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | you don't need disks in frontends |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | WD and Maxtor are both on my shitlist |
| [14:13:00] | dasOp: | agreed |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | but not as prominently as Fujitsu |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | those are SHITE |
| [14:14:00] | dasOp: | beirdo: they all should be, dont restrict yourself to some :P |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [14:14:00] | dasOp: | ugh.. sun servers tended to come with rebranded fujitsu drives |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | Seagate currently makes the best drives (as far as I can tell) |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | wtf do they mean "3-D defense system" ? |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | Sun would use Fujistu or Seagate |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | Sun used HP for a spell |
| [14:15:00] | Juski: | I was there then they did. Oh dear. |
| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | but 10k RPM drives aren't known for lasting forever |
| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | they used IBM too |
| [14:15:00] | dasOp: | yeah. worst part was back when the rebranded drives had diff firmware |
| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | if you want your drives to last longer, get slower drives :) |
| [14:15:00] | Juski: | the Fuji/HP drives.. now they got _hot_ |
| [14:15:00] | dasOp: | so they identified themselves as SUN and 'format' required sun drives |
| [14:16:00] | Juski: | get slower drives, keep em cool & away from shocks |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [14:16:00] | Juski: | and away from other disks |
| [14:16:00] | dasOp: | I just use wd's for system drives |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | 7200RPM drives are pretty decent anyways for my uses |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want 10k or 15k RPM ones |
| [14:17:00] | dasOp: | I could notice a difference 2 years ago |
| [14:17:00] | dasOp: | nowadays I dont know, 7200 drives are gettin top notch |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | but 4500 RPM drives are likewise not wanted |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:17:00] | dasOp: | in my powerbook one is, I like long lasting batteries |
| [14:18:00] | Cromz: | but 4500 are abunded in laptop world. |
| [14:18:00] | Merlin83b: | abunded eh? :-P |
| [14:18:00] | Beirdo: | they suck |
| [14:18:00] | ** dasOp tries to parse that ** | |
| [14:18:00] | Cromz: | I frunk engrish |
| [14:18:00] | Beirdo: | the only good thing about 4500RPM is that they don't get as hot in a laptop :) |
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| [14:20:00] | Merlin83b: | ...by not using as much power. Also a good thing in a laptop. |
| [14:20:00] | Cromz: | Merlin83b, ya I work in a data recovery lab.. I see lots. 'laptop ran over by a people mover' 'laptop got ran over by a taxi in newyork' ' cat pee'd on laptop' you name in.. |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | by being slow as crap... |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:21:00] | Merlin83b: | Not quite my ponit, Cromz ;-) |
| [14:21:00] | Jasper^off: | :p |
| [14:21:00] | Merlin83b: | Yep Beirdo :-) |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I should get to work |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [14:22:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm anyone here ever worked with package.provided on gentoo? |
| [14:22:00] | Juski: | you know... seek performance is affected by a HDD being next to another HDD – I measured about 15% decrease a few weeks ago |
| [14:23:00] | Juski: | that's standard PC HDD mountings for ya ;-) |
| [14:23:00] | Juski: | Jasper^off: Gentoo packages? from CD ? |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | you tell it something's already installed from a package so it won't go emerging & compiling a new one? |
| [14:24:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah |
| [14:24:00] | Jasper^off: | but I can't get it too work Juski |
| [14:24:00] | Jasper^off: | I added app-misc/lirc-1 to it |
| [14:24:00] | Jasper^off: | but it still tries to emerge lirc |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | hmm. I dunno |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | ask in #gentoo |
| [14:25:00] | Juski: | there are sometimes friendly folks in there ;-) |
| [14:25:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah am in #gentoo-uk |
| [14:25:00] | Jasper^off: | :LP |
| [14:25:00] | johnp_: | juski. quick question. with minimyth did you go the standard net route to boot or try booting from a cf/hdd/usb etc. ? |
| [14:26:00] | Juski: | johnp_: net booting |
| [14:26:00] | Juski: | apparently network booting isn't very much slower than anything else. infact one person reported a great slowdown using a USB stick for minimyth |
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| [14:27:00] | Juski: | I can go from powered down to watching a show in about a minute |
| [14:27:00] | Juski: | pretty happy with that – it's a lot better than a diskless gentoo frontend was ;-P |
| [14:28:00] | johnp_: | dunno which way to go really, I could set it up but it's a bit of a pain. can't honestly decide which is less painful. |
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| [14:28:00] | Juski: | PXE booting a pain? get real |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | not much harder than NFS.. and that's not hard |
| [14:28:00] | johnp_: | not that, I assume I have to shift the dhcp server away from my nice little router box. |
| [14:28:00] | praet: | can anyone recommend a flat file (no database) cms for php? |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | no |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | johnp_: my router still runs DHCP |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | and my backend hosted DHCP server always gives the frontend a fixed address |
| [14:29:00] | johnp_: | juski, ah so now I'm intrigued how did you manage that then ? |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | I dunno – it just works (tm) |
| [14:30:00] | Juski: | presumably because the frontend doesn't get a pxe boot image from the router |
| [14:30:00] | Juski: | and the dhcp server in the backend only gives one address out to the right mac address |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | I dunno if the router's dhcp still works though, since I use fixed IPs on my home network |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | 6 addresses are easy to manage |
| [14:32:00] | johnp_: | (duh.) I'm guessing pxeboot must announce itself in a different way to dhcp then. I'm kind of seeing how this could work. (Never done this stuff before) |
| [14:32:00] | Juski: | but I've never turned off the router's dhcp server |
| [14:32:00] | Juski: | might get more interesting when I get a hauppauge MVP though |
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| [14:33:00] | johnp_: | it'll be fun :) |
| [14:33:00] | Juski: | even so, you could just run dhcp on your backend or wherever – it's not gonna be a huge demand is it? |
| [14:33:00] | Juski: | like you'll be needing it anyway for the netbooted FE |
| [14:34:00] | johnp_: | the tricky bit is, the backend isn't up all the time. That's why I was thinking off mooving pxeboot stuff to yet another server box. |
| [14:34:00] | johnp_: | (as I said complicated) |
| [14:34:00] | Juski: | backend not up all the time? unthinkable in my house |
| [14:35:00] | Juski: | if you have any always-on machines you can just use them. hell even windows desktops can be dhcp & Pxe servers |
| [14:35:00] | johnp_: | I think I should bite the bullet and read the doc etc. |
| [14:36:00] | Juski: | one thing I've often thought about sometimes-on backends... unusable with diskless frontends... and no good if you remember on the spur of the moment you read about a show you want to record.. no more popping into mythweb if the server is off :-( |
| [14:36:00] | sphing: | johnp_: hack your router and put the dhcp there |
| [14:37:00] | Juski: | I think johnp_' |
| [14:37:00] | sphing: | there for you are |
| [14:38:00] | Juski: | johnp_'s router already does dhcp... just won't be a pxe boot server |
| [14:38:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [14:38:00] | johnp_: | right. |
| [14:38:00] | sphing: | i meant... if you have a flashable router you could put a small distro and put the pxe tftp all that jazz on it |
| [14:38:00] | johnp_: | it's no biggy, I could just switch the feature off and move to my permanent on box, sort out pxeboot from there and away I go. |
| [14:39:00] | johnp_: | (obviously much too complicated) |
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| [14:46:00] | Juski: | sphing: I know what you meant, but not everyone has a 'nuxible router ;-) |
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| [14:47:00] | Juski: | speaking of hacking routers... gonna have to look into those things you can easily turn into NAS boxes |
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| [14:48:00] | dasOp: | a linksys with usb2 :P |
| [14:48:00] | Juski: | blugh. usb2 |
| [14:49:00] | Juski: | any with gigabit ethernet & firewire? :-P |
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| [14:50:00] | dasOp: | guess a small form factor will be cheaper then :P |
| [14:51:00] | Juski: | yeh.. thought about mini-itx.. 500mhz CPU or so |
| [14:51:00] | dasOp: | my openwrt box only has a 200mhz arm and 16mb of memory |
| [14:51:00] | dasOp: | and a screaming 4mb of flash! |
| [14:51:00] | Juski: | wooo |
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| [14:52:00] | dasOp: | hey, it loads 2.4 and runs alot of stuff I need :P |
| [14:52:00] | Juski: | can you turn the wireless bit off easily? |
| [14:53:00] | dasOp: | I assume so |
| [14:53:00] | dasOp: | there are controls for it |
| [14:53:00] | dasOp: | I never turn it off |
| [14:53:00] | Juski: | I don't want wireless |
| [14:54:00] | dasOp: | got an embedded radius server doing the wpa authentication |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | still, I like good performance & I have cat5 all over my house |
| [14:55:00] | dasOp: | then I guess you want a good switch instead |
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| [14:55:00] | dasOp: | but I get enough performance to run a frontend on my powerbook |
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| [15:18:00] | Shdwdrgn: | hey is there a timezone setting somewhere for the zap2it data? The listings for the local channels are correct, but all the cable channels I'm checking are wrong by 3 hours. |
| [15:18:00] | jams: | the timezone is set by your system not zap2it |
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| [15:20:00] | Shdwdrgn: | yeah that's the only one I was aware of |
| [15:20:00] | Shdwdrgn: | and that one is set right |
| [15:21:00] | Merlin83b: | Ooh, interesting mythtv behaviour. LiveTV works fine, recording stuff seems not to make any files. |
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| [15:25:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b: that's bad. naughty mythtv |
| [15:25:00] | Shdwdrgn: | Merlin – try chmod 777 on your /mnt/store directory (or wherever you store) |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, just did o+w (only one missing on /myth/tv) and it seems to have fixed it. |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b: | Damn, going to have to tell it to rerecord some stuff now. |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b: | Any idea why that changed? I only put a new tuner in... |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b: | (And moved to a new case, but that shouldn't matter) |
| [15:26:00] | Brov: | with a UDF dvdr fstab = /dev/sr0 /cdrom udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 FAILS? BUT /dev/sr0 /cdrom udf user,noauto 0 0 WORKS. Obviously I cant edit fstab every time I use a diff type of dvd though. ANyone know why? |
| [15:27:00] | Shdwdrgn: | checking channel listing, I have 3 hour discrepancies with channels 23, 29, 30, 32... weird that most are correct but a lot of random ones are wrong. |
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| [15:31:00] | wakko: | hello everyone |
| [15:34:00] | Brov: | with a UDF dvdr fstab = '/dev/sr0 /cdrom udf,iso9660 ...' FAILS? BUT '/dev/sr0 /cdrom udf ...' WORKS. I cant alter fstab each time I use a dvd though. Doesn't the udf,iso9660 line mean it should try both? |
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| [15:40:00] | hyperstream: | what is udf dvd ? |
| [15:40:00] | Juski: | UDF – universal disk format |
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| [15:40:00] | wakko: | Commercial DVDs are UDF |
| [15:40:00] | hyperstream: | ahh |
| [15:41:00] | hyperstream: | whats the difference format wise? |
| [15:41:00] | hyperstream: | new protection method? |
| [15:41:00] | wakko: | nope |
| [15:41:00] | Juski: | different structure to the filesystem |
| [15:41:00] | wakko: | set-top boxes will nto play back a VIDEO_TS folder unless it is on a UDF disc |
| [15:41:00] | hyperstream: | woah |
| [15:41:00] | hyperstream: | wierd |
| [15:41:00] | hyperstream: | :x |
| [15:42:00] | Juski: | not really weird |
| [15:42:00] | wakko: | other than that, the fs is different, I'm not sure what other differences. You can use either one for data DVDs |
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| [15:42:00] | hyperstream: | normal dvd players play udf ? |
| [15:43:00] | wakko: | I'm having serial card problems (PCI serial card). Can antone recommend a resource for setting up my card so that I can control my second DirecTV reciever? |
| [15:43:00] | wakko: | I just installed it |
| [15:44:00] | hyperstream: | make[2]: *** [tv_play.o] Error 1 |
| [15:44:00] | Brov: | this is a data dvd with divx files on it |
| [15:44:00] | hyperstream: | when compiling with --enable-dvb |
| [15:44:00] | Brov: | it was burned as udf |
| [15:45:00] | Brov: | if i chnage the fstab so instead of udf,iso9660 in fstab it is just udf it works, BUT then my other iso9660 ones wont work |
| [15:45:00] | Juski: | wakka: your kernel will have to support the serial port controller used on the card |
| [15:45:00] | Juski: | *wakko: I meant... not wakka – sorry |
| [15:45:00] | wakko: | netmos 9820 chipset – is that what you refer to? |
| [15:45:00] | wakko: | :) |
| [15:46:00] | Juski: | wakko: yeh you'll need support for that chipset in your kernel |
| [15:46:00] | wakko: | I'm running Kmoppmyth Debian |
| [15:46:00] | Juski: | wakko: that's nice |
| [15:46:00] | wakko: | I don;t know if that helps |
| [15:46:00] | wakko: | 2.6.13.2-chw-3 |
| [15:46:00] | Juski: | or erm.. actually for using lirc for an IR blaster you'd be better off using a new instance of lirc |
| [15:47:00] | Juski: | more than one instance of lirc can get messy |
| [15:47:00] | wakko: | I'm using serial cables into the back of the DirecTV receivers |
| [15:48:00] | wakko: | no IR at all :) |
| [15:48:00] | Juski: | okay – so you'll need to enable support for that chipset in your kernel if it's not already there |
| [15:48:00] | wakko: | ok – any resources on where to look for how to do that? |
| [15:48:00] | Juski: | I don't know how universal knoppmyth kernels are |
| [15:48:00] | Juski: | well, cd to /usr/src/linux |
| [15:48:00] | Juski: | and look in the .config file or run make menuconfig |
| [15:49:00] | Juski: | but before you do that, read some howtos for compiling your own kernel |
| [15:49:00] | Juski: | noobs beware: here be demons |
| [15:49:00] | wakko: | oh wow – I've been using Linux for about 5 days, and I'm compiling a kernel. |
| [15:49:00] | wakko: | heh – I think I should be as scared as I am. |
| [15:50:00] | Juski: | compiling kernels isn't as bad as it sounds – you just have to be careful you do it right |
| [15:50:00] | wakko: | ok |
| [15:50:00] | wakko: | thanks for your help |
| [15:50:00] | Juski: | i.e. careful you don't miss anything out |
| [15:50:00] | wakko: | heh |
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| [15:51:00] | Juski: | course you could always dump knoppmyth & use something like ubuntu- myth isn't so hard to get going on that |
| [15:51:00] | Juski: | or – ask in the knoppmyth forums |
| [15:51:00] | wakko: | :) |
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| [15:51:00] | Merlin83b: | Sticking with KnoppMyth is serving me okay :-) |
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| [15:52:00] | wakko: | Knoppmyth has been good to me, as a noob. Easy to get running. |
| [15:54:00] | Juski: | had a couple of bad experiences with knoppmyth – won't be going back to it |
| [15:54:00] | Juski: | saying that, when I tried it there was no dvb support |
| [15:54:00] | Merlin83b: | I don't count myself as a newbie by a long stretch, but KnoppMyth stopped me giving up on Myth totally ;-) |
| [15:55:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm on R5A26 with myth pulled up to SVN. |
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| [15:55:00] | Juski: | also tried a new frontend box with knoppmyth – crashed the backend so bad it locked up |
| [15:56:00] | Juski: | instant black marks there |
| [15:56:00] | Juski: | so erm... for DVB-T – is it really just a case of answering some questions & letting it install? |
| [15:57:00] | jams: | cat /dev/ttyS0 and cat /dev/ttyS1 would tell you if the serial port is working. |
| [15:57:00] | wakko: | I have a very basic hardware setup, P4, 2xhauppage cards, 1GB RAM, Knoppmyth installed almost effortlessly |
| [15:57:00] | jams: | if it returns Input/output error then it's not working |
| [15:58:00] | Juski: | was almost effortless to install ubuntu & myth for me too |
| [15:58:00] | jams: | if nothing happens and you have to hit ctrl-c to get back to a prompt it's working |
| [15:58:00] | jams: | course lspci and lsmod and dmesg would also be a good place to start. |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | ahhhh. Megadeth morning |
| [16:00:00] | Merlin83b: | No Juski, you have to do the drop out of setup, do dvbscan, plug numbers into setup thing. |
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| [16:01:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b: so erm... the one attraction is negated then ;-) |
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| [16:01:00] | Merlin83b: | For you, perhaps :-) |
| [16:01:00] | Merlin83b: | Worked for me (to an extent) |
| [16:02:00] | Merlin83b: | In any case, I now have it up and running and am pretty happy with it. Until tracking SVN proves to need something that's not installed, that is. |
| [16:02:00] | Juski: | I must either be mega-brainy (which I doubt) or just damn lucky |
| [16:02:00] | Merlin83b: | At that point, I'm likely to start swearing. |
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| [16:04:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [16:14:00] | Juski: | well that's a full diagnostic started on the new 500GB drive |
| [16:15:00] | Juski: | can't trust a HDD to be good out of the box, so start from a known good position ;-) |
| [16:15:00] | DGnome: | :o |
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| [16:22:00] | a1fa: | damn dog |
| [16:22:00] | a1fa: | whats up people |
| [16:23:00] | a1fa: | i have a dilema |
| [16:23:00] | a1fa: | i just bought a 200gb hd for $79 |
| [16:23:00] | Merlin83b: | That is a dilemma. |
| [16:23:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [16:23:00] | a1fa: | no |
| [16:23:00] | Juski: | dilemma != bargain |
| [16:23:00] | a1fa: | but i allready have mountpoints for tv recording |
| [16:23:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [16:24:00] | Juski: | so make a new mount point for the new HDD, copy all the recordings to it, then change fstab |
| [16:24:00] | a1fa: | my storage for everything.. movis,mp3s,images |
| [16:24:00] | a1fa: | /dev/hda9 70G 35G 32G 53% /home |
| [16:24:00] | a1fa: | well /home/mythtv/data |
| [16:24:00] | a1fa: | i dont want to waste 30 gb |
| [16:24:00] | Juski: | I'm starting to run out of /media space |
| [16:24:00] | a1fa: | of home space |
| [16:25:00] | a1fa: | i want to use both |
| [16:25:00] | Juski: | you need lvm |
| [16:25:00] | Juski: | only snag is, one disk fails you lose the lot |
| [16:25:00] | a1fa: | so.. i am going to 200GB -> /home |
| [16:25:00] | a1fa: | and 30GB /home/mythtv/data/videos/DISK2/ |
| [16:25:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [16:26:00] | a1fa: | my question is, can that video manager, go in and out of directories to scan for new videos? |
| [16:26:00] | a1fa: | at least i can use it for some storage |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | a1fa: it can drill into subdirectories from your video directory, yes |
| [16:26:00] | a1fa: | so, no more dilema, but a somewhat skanky solution |
| [16:27:00] | Juski: | or you can make links & I think it'll follow them |
| [16:27:00] | a1fa: | i would hate to make links |
| [16:27:00] | Juski: | or just fdisk the new hdd to 200GB, mount it, copy the old stuff onto it & change your fstab |
| [16:27:00] | a1fa: | its a 200GB 7200RPM for $80 |
| [16:27:00] | a1fa: | Juski.. i lose 35gb then |
| [16:28:00] | a1fa: | gotta love SVN |
| [16:28:00] | a1fa: | Updated to revision 9136. |
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| [16:31:00] | a1fa: | so juski.. i am going to mount that as disk2 |
| [16:31:00] | a1fa: | just enough of space for mp3s and pre-recorded divx |
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| [16:46:00] | Juski: | I need to sort out my mp3s & videos.. got way too much I never use and that I'm not likely to use |
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| [16:47:00] | Juski: | 225GB of music & videos :-/ |
| [16:48:00] | cschrader: | juski screw sorting it out, just buy more hard drives :-) |
| [16:49:00] | cschrader: | theres a terabyte or storage calling you |
| [16:49:00] | Juski: | 32GB of music |
| [16:49:00] | Juski: | 165GB of videos.. oops :-O |
| [16:50:00] | Juski: | only got 2 pata ports on my backend & I need one for my cdrom drive |
| [16:50:00] | Juski: | besides, 1TB is a lot of data to lose ;-) |
| [16:51:00] | Juski: | my via board works great with pata but I wouldn't trust its sata controller as far as I could throw it |
| [16:51:00] | cschrader: | i was thinkin about getting one of these http://www.buffalotech.com/products/storage.php |
| [16:51:00] | cschrader: | we have one at work for backup – they seem pretty nice |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | seen raidon are doing 5 disk external sata2 boxes now. one port to 5 sata drives |
| [16:52:00] | cschrader: | damn |
| [16:53:00] | Juski: | hmm raid5 with 4 500GB disks would be nice |
| [16:56:00] | epictetus: | loud though |
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| [16:57:00] | Juski: | how loud? long as I can't hear it from the bedroom, should be fine |
| [16:58:00] | Jasper^off: | lol juski..I just got mplayer to work with the remote |
| [16:58:00] | Jasper^off: | now when I exited mplayer I pressed enter to soon |
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| [16:59:00] | Jasper^off: | and now my tv-out is all fucked u |
| [16:59:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
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| [16:59:00] | coffee88: | Jasper^off: You had your bloody box working, so why the hell did you feck with it again!? |
| [16:59:00] | Jasper^off: | this is funny |
| [16:59:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [16:59:00] | Jasper^off: | coffee88 IT still works |
| [16:59:00] | Juski: | Jasper^off: oh dear oh dear. oh dear |
| [16:59:00] | Jasper^off: | but for some reason my tv-out just got fucked up :P |
| [16:59:00] | coffee88: | really?!! |
| [17:00:00] | epictetus: | coffee88: to me, the whole point of my myth box is to have something to mess with |
| [17:00:00] | Jasper^off: | I think I need to like really get the power of it |
| [17:00:00] | epictetus: | i dont really care about _using_ it |
| [17:00:00] | epictetus: | it's fixing it and tweaking it that is fun |
| [17:00:00] | Jasper^off: | this is weird..how can I like reset the tv-out? |
| [17:00:00] | Juski: | the whole point of me having a myth box is so I never miss a show. funny |
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| [17:00:00] | coffee88: | But he's already had over a week getting it to go! He coudl have left it for one full day working right! |
| [17:00:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | no coffee88 it didn't work in the mean time |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | took me 2 weeks off & on getting mythtv working properly |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | I only got xvmc to work yesterday |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | juski is ther any way to reset tv-out ? |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | reset it? |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | .. |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | I know it's a weird question |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | it just goes & goes in my experience |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | reboot? ;-) |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | but exiting x and restarting x didn't help |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | reboot also didn't help |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | .. |
| [17:01:00] | Jasper^off: | LO |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [17:02:00] | Juski: | starting to sound like your filesystem is flaky |
| [17:02:00] | coffee88: | But I thought it was all fine yesterday and then you went and downgraded drivers?! |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah coffee88...I agree..that was a bad idea |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [17:02:00] | Juski: | the only way to bork stuff is by editing config stuff willy-nilly |
| [17:02:00] | Juski: | or upgrading/downgrading etc |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | I think it's my tv |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | juski |
| [17:02:00] | Juski: | or using FC |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | because when I cut the poewr |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | it keeps the image |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [17:02:00] | Juski: | what?! |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah |
| [17:02:00] | Jasper^off: | kinda funny |
| [17:03:00] | Jasper^off: | I dunno why |
| [17:03:00] | Juski: | your TV 100hz or something? |
| [17:03:00] | Jasper^off: | my pc is off now |
| [17:03:00] | Jasper^off: | and it keeps the image |
| [17:03:00] | Juski: | the sort with a framestore... |
| [17:03:00] | Jasper^off: | prolly |
| [17:03:00] | Juski: | would have to be |
| [17:03:00] | coffee88: | Quantum computer. You get the answer without turning it on..... |
| [17:03:00] | Jasper^off: | I'm gonna unplug the tv-oiut |
| [17:03:00] | Jasper^off: | maybe that helps |
| [17:03:00] | Juski: | I need to watch some TV: # Total Space: 469,452 MB |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | # Space Used: 204,668 MB |
| [17:04:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm I'll try rebooting the tv :P |
| [17:04:00] | Jasper^off: | yeah that worked |
| [17:04:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | you've got one weird setup there Jasper |
| [17:04:00] | Jasper^off: | why';s that? |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper^off: | the problem was with tv...I don't know why it kept that image |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper^off: | even when the computer was off |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper^off: | but a new image wouldn't go completely through to it.. |
| [17:05:00] | Jasper^off: | so I kept seeing the old one in the background.. |
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| [17:06:00] | Jasper^off: | is there any way to solve a problem when the remote sends multiple signals |
| [17:06:00] | Jasper^off: | ? |
| [17:06:00] | Jasper^off: | instead of only just once.. |
| [17:07:00] | coffee88: | Juski: And all the soap omnibus' still to record this weekend.... |
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| [17:13:00] | Jasper^off: | coffee88 are you using irxevent for your remote? |
| [17:13:00] | Juski: | coffee88: like hell |
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| [17:13:00] | coffee88: | Hmmm. Don't think so..... |
| [17:13:00] | Juski: | that's what live tv is for :-D |
| [17:13:00] | Jasper^off: | I installed mythtv with lirc support |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | not wasting CPU cycles on fsking emmerdale |
| [17:14:00] | Jasper^off: | but for some reason it won't work |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | Jasper^off: you tried irw ? |
| [17:14:00] | Jasper^off: | should prog be mythtv in .lircrc for native support? |
| [17:14:00] | Jasper^off: | Juski it works with irxevent |
| [17:14:00] | Jasper^off: | I just want it native |
| [17:14:00] | Jasper^off: | withouth an external program |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | it's not .lirc in your mythtv home directory |
| [17:14:00] | coffee88: | Juski: :-) At least you know you'll get quiet time. Mine doesn't watch anything like that. Sigh. |
| [17:15:00] | Jasper^off: | what do you mean Juski ? |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | I know we're married but there are much better things to do than watch soaps ;-) |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | ahem |
| [17:15:00] | coffee88: | heh |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | anyway... in ~/.mythtv the lirc config file should be called _lircrc_ |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | not .lircrc |
| [17:16:00] | Jasper^off: | ah |
| [17:17:00] | coffee88: | Somebody slap me! I just saw a mini-itx clear acrylic case and started to wonder what it would look like all lit up under the tv..... |
| [17:17:00] | coffee88: | Nnoooooooo! |
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| [17:18:00] | Juski: | coffee88: my attitude towards that kind of thing is – nice novelty value. but you're gonna be watching TV, not flashing lights |
| [17:18:00] | laga: | slapping? no, i don't ever want to touch you after saying that. |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | Juski: umm, and what about the visualisations in mythmusic? ;) |
| [17:19:00] | Juski: | that's why my frontend will never have a VFD or LCD.. they have ricer value & ricer value only |
| [17:19:00] | Juski: | laga: visualisations. if you need them have some more to drink / sniff |
| [17:19:00] | coffee88: | I know, I could never really see the point.... I must be bored..... |
| [17:20:00] | Juski: | opengl animated erotic dancers.. maybe |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | Juski: that reminds me, it's weekend :) |
| [17:20:00] | coffee88: | I'd still like to hook up a small LED bar graph on the front that shows how full the disk is though.... |
| [17:21:00] | Juski: | be better to get that in the menus... not as if there's much room for more but hey |
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| [17:21:00] | Juski: | I'm HSF modding at the weekend.. suddenly with minimyth 0.19 by CPU temp is sky high |
| [17:22:00] | coffee88: | I'm finding 19 seems to be taking more cpu than 18 on my epia.... |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | umm, fix the software instead? ;) |
| [17:22:00] | Juski: | damn 2.6.15 kernel & it's 'optimisations'.. unless lmsensors is just lying |
| [17:23:00] | coffee88: | lmsensors seems to lie for epias, i seem to recall..... |
| [17:23:00] | Juski: | says my core voltage is twice as high as it should be |
| [17:23:00] | ** laga has the impression that epias are crap :) ** | |
| [17:23:00] | Juski: | 5V is 4.70 volts... |
| [17:23:00] | Juski: | when it's not... |
| [17:23:00] | coffee88: | Yeah. There is a patch/listing around to get "proper" values though.... |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | I'll ask on linpvr.org to see if we can get that patch in then |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | I could always power it up for a while then go into the health page in the BIOS |
| [17:24:00] | coffee88: | Juski: See http://www.seanm.ca/eden/lmsensors.html? |
| [17:25:00] | Jasper^off: | so juski the mplayer stuff still goes in .lircrc? |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | seen that before... no idea what's in minimyth |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | Jasper^off: you can have a .lircrc file in the user's home dir |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | I could always make my own distro – how hard can it be? ;-) |
| [17:26:00] | laga: | Juski: looking thru the english forums now. i'm sorry for you. |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | laga: and you wonder why I'm so pissed off lately? ;-) |
| [17:27:00] | coffee88: | Juski: actually meant here... http://hem.bredband.net/ekmlar/vt1211.html |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | FOAD, noobs :-) |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | by tht I mean people who can't be arsed to RTFM |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | coffee88: ahh so I may not be frying my cpu after all ;-) |
| [17:28:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | Juski: i'm gonna help you a little bit :) |
| [17:29:00] | Juski: | I'll borrow an IR thermometer from work |
| [17:29:00] | coffee88: | Juski: No, I suspect not. I've given up on sensors. |
| [17:29:00] | Juski: | I think if it'd gone as high as lmsensors has said, it'd be dead by now |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | i wonder if 'mbmon' works for you epia guys. |
| [17:31:00] | laga: | Juski: fancy putting some kind of ultimate hardware guide to mythtv together sometime? |
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| [17:32:00] | Juski: | laga: hardware guide? |
| [17:32:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [17:32:00] | coffee88: | Start with a 42" plasma? |
| [17:32:00] | Juski: | I've given a lot of thought to this already. if people can't be bothered to do some basic googling that's their own lookout |
| [17:33:00] | coffee88: | There is a whole lot of dodgy/outdated stuff around though..... |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | Juski: heh. might be fun to do, and it'd save us a lot of annoying questions |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | coffee88: yep. |
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| [17:33:00] | Juski: | like you should believe anything you read on the internet... ;-) |
| [17:33:00] | wakko: | I RTFM whenever I can, but sometimes TFM is porrly written or outdated. |
| [17:34:00] | Juski: | laga: I know one thing that'd save me a lot of annoying questions, and it wouldn't be good for the forums |
| [17:34:00] | coffee88: | The wiki is looking really good, but still quite a few holes.... Sometimes it;s not easy to work out when to use, say gl sync... |
| [17:34:00] | laga: | Juski: heh :) |
| [17:34:00] | laga: | the wiki at mythtv.org is coming along very nicely, i have to admit. |
| [17:34:00] | Juski: | "0.19 frontend with 0.18 backend ???" |
| [17:34:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's lunch time |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | Juski: only one guy applied for that moderator position :/ |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | i think it's about time to get drunk :) |
| [17:35:00] | Juski: | the german one? |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | Juski: yeah. |
| [17:35:00] | Juski: | we had to go bowing & scraping to get an English moderator |
| [17:35:00] | Juski: | he's really good & enthusiastic though |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | heh, i know, i read that message ;) |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | yep |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | they're all enthusiastic in the beginning. we were, too, right? |
| [17:37:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [17:37:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [17:37:00] | Juski: | roger that |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | heh |
| [17:41:00] | coffee88: | Who can I propose an international "get all that old outdated crap off your web sites, or at least put a created date on it" week to? |
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| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | to /dev/null |
| [17:45:00] | coffee88: | heh |
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| [18:10:00] | Juski: | right time to gan hyem |
| [18:10:00] | Juski: | (go home) |
| [18:11:00] | Juski: | laters... I'll have a a few JDs in me when I re-appear no doubt ;-) |
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| [18:20:00] | xris: | Beirdo: my how the week just flies by |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
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| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | Net::DNS isn't round-robining the servers |
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| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | it's trying the first one, then the second, etc |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | well have to hit it repeatedly with a lead pipe |
| [18:26:00] | robin_: | Beirdo: ? |
| [18:26:00] | robin_: | oh round-robining |
| [18:26:00] | robin_: | hmm. |
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| [18:27:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, no, you see, robins don't like lead pipe, they like birdseed, and if they eat enough bird seed, they get very very round, which is what you want! |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | then you hit em with the lead pipe |
| [18:27:00] | kormoc: | and have stew? |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [18:27:00] | robin_: | don't talk about me that way |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | OK, easily fixed, but in a dumb way |
| [18:27:00] | robin_: | that hurts. |
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| [18:28:00] | robin_: | "then you hit em with the lead pipe" :\ |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | $res->nameservers($nameservers[rand $#nameservers]); |
| [18:28:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: you do know that round robining is having a list, and just cycling through them, right? |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | yes, I just want to spread the resolving load, and resolvers don't normally do that |
| [18:28:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | so I'll pick a random one from the list |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:29:00] | kormoc: | rand $#nameservers returns the key and not the value? |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | it returns a random number between 0 and $#nameservers |
| [18:29:00] | kormoc: | ahh! # for number, gotcha |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | which I then use as an index into the array |
| [18:29:00] | robin_ is now known as nibor | |
| [18:29:00] | nibor: | . |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | which SHOULD spread the load a bit |
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| [18:30:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, until your random number picks 0 a billion times in a row! |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | hheh |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | it won't |
| [18:30:00] | scopeuk: | has any one else had a nasty shock off an arial conenction? |
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| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | BTW, .nl whois servers are anal and only allow 15 queries per day from an IP |
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| [18:35:00] | xris: | Beirdo: time to ip spoof. :) |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | good thing there's only one .nl domain we need to check once a week or so |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | if we were IN .nl, I'd be calling them and bitching |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [18:44:00] | Jasper^off: | Beirdo I'm in .nl |
| [18:44:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | go kick your NIC |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | although... .nl domains last a lifetime, it seems |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | unless you do something to piss em off |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | that's kinda cool |
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| [18:50:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: automated whois queries are generally prohibited by domain registries anyway. |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | this isn't automated |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | it's scripted, run by a human |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | for the stated purpose of validating domains that we serve |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | modify existing registrations |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | from the Verisign registry, most others say the same |
| [18:53:00] | xpis: | And most all registries will ban high volume queriers automatically. But 15 seems a bit low. |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | 15 a day is NOT high volume |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | that's fuckin dumb |
| [18:54:00] | beavis: | GreyFoxx: heh Invalid time :) |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | 15 an hour, perhaps |
| [18:54:00] | beavis: | GreyFoxx: millions of Invalid time messages here as well |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | 15 a second, definitely |
| [18:54:00] | beavis: | GreyFoxx: I was starting to write to daniel atm |
| [18:55:00] | rtsai: | who decides whether a theme gets into the myththemes svn repository? |
| [18:56:00] | xpis: | 15 a day * a block of 255 IPs = a query every 20 seconds. |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | blah |
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| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | it's dumb |
| [18:57:00] | Jasper^off: | anyone here using mplayer with subtitles? |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | the day we have > 15 .nl domains, I assure you someone will be writing them asking for an exception |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | we need to be able to validate our domains |
| [18:58:00] | xpis: | Why would you have >15 .nl domains? |
| [18:58:00] | rtsai: | Jasper^off: what do you mean? I've used mplayer to watch DVDs that have subtitles ... |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | because we have many customers, and they register domains |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | beavis: Yeah, it happened with changeset 9110 |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was doing stuff on 9109, but saw 9110 so I updated and suddenly it was broken :) |
| [18:58:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: and you need to query every domain every day? |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | you don't get it |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | it's a weekly audit, and YES we have to do all of them every week |
| [18:59:00] | Jasper^off: | rtsai if I use mplayer to play divx with subtitles |
| [18:59:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [19:00:00] | Chutt: | rtsai, when a developer wants to maintain it |
| [19:02:00] | Chutt: | Beirdo, so, um, do them on different days? |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | well, that might have to happen, I guess, but that's harder to maintain. |
| [19:02:00] | Chutt: | that brings the limit to 105 domains |
| [19:02:00] | Chutt: | and i don't think there are that many _people_ in .nl |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | at least not that aren't constantly smokin weed |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | ah well. |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | it's fun to vent once in a while |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | I'll go back into my hole and get this script finished :) |
| [19:06:00] | Juski_: | looks like I'm debugging an airbag system this weekend. nice |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | don't let it hit you in the face too often |
| [19:07:00] | Juski_: | lol |
| [19:07:00] | Juski_: | for 'debugging' read chopping the connectors off & soldering them |
| [19:07:00] | Juski_: | well, maybe just unplugging em & re-plugging |
| [19:08:00] | Juski_: | pity they use such crappy shoddy connectors on life preserving gear eh |
| [19:08:00] | Klatuu: | I can't seem to get mythmusic to change the tree sort |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:08:00] | Klatuu: | I put "directory" in that field and nothing changes |
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| [19:12:00] | Jasper^off: | Juski_ do you know if it's possible to use mplayer and then in the commandline %f.srt ? |
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| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could likely use %s.srt |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | %s is replaced with the filename |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | so %s.srt would become file.avi.srt |
| [19:13:00] | Jasper^off: | hmm |
| [19:13:00] | Jasper^off: | %f = the file? |
| [19:13:00] | Jasper^off: | or? |
| [19:13:00] | beavis: | Do 0.19 and 0.19-fixes still use the same protocol? |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe there is only %s |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | beavis: i'd think so |
| [19:13:00] | Juski_: | Jasper^off: I don't use mplayer, so I dunno |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | %d = default player, %s = full filename |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is no %f |
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| [19:14:00] | Jasper^off: | huh?> |
| [19:15:00] | Jasper^off: | how come it works then with %f? |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | All I can tell you is what the sourceode is telling me :) |
| [19:16:00] | Jasper^off: | %s doesn't work GreyFoxx |
| [19:16:00] | Jasper^off: | %f does :P |
| [19:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Run strace and see what is getting sent out, because there is no%f in the source |
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| [19:21:00] | shygrrl: | are there any gotcha for nvidia 6600's :) |
| [19:21:00] | shygrrl: | or was to improve performance? |
| [19:21:00] | Spum: | ello |
| [19:21:00] | shygrrl: | hi! |
| [19:23:00] | Spum: | :-) |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | shygrrl, what performance problems do you have? |
| [19:24:00] | shygrrl: | i was just wondering if I have to turn on any acceleration or anything |
| [19:24:00] | shygrrl: | i am actuallyusing knoppmyth |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | usually not, they tend to be rather good about the defaults. |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | as long as you are using the nvidia driver and not the nv driver |
| [19:25:00] | Jasper^off: | GreyFoxx how do I do that? |
| [19:25:00] | Jasper^off: | strace? |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | Jasper^off: strace `which mythfrontend` – you'll probably want to redirect the output to a file or pipe to rhough your favoruite pager |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | or..read 'man strace' :) |
| [19:28:00] | Jasper^off: | ok |
| [19:28:00] | Jasper^off: | %f = the filestrea |
| [19:28:00] | Jasper^off: | not the name |
| [19:28:00] | Jasper^off: | sweet god |
| [19:28:00] | Jasper^off: | I did cat %f > f.log |
| [19:28:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [19:31:00] | shygrrl: | yep i see the pretty splash screen |
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| [19:33:00] | Jasper^off: | GreyFoxx are you stil here? |
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| [20:06:00] | Juski_: | it's all gawn quiet |
| [20:07:00] | Spum: | shh |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | Juski_: boo. |
| [20:12:00] | ** laga vanishes ** | |
| [20:12:00] | Spum: | :-O |
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| [20:25:00] | Klatuu: | ugh |
| [20:25:00] | Klatuu: | mythmusic is really getting on my nerves |
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| [20:27:00] | Juski_: | Klatuu: so write something better already :-) |
| [20:27:00] | Klatuu: | would if I could |
| [20:27:00] | Klatuu: | i am finding the tree sort thing FUBAR |
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| [20:28:00] | Klatuu: | it doesn't matter what change I make |
| [20:28:00] | Klatuu: | it never changes the display |
| [20:28:00] | Juski_: | hmmm |
| [20:29:00] | Juski_: | I find playlist editing overbearing |
| [20:29:00] | Klatuu: | yeah |
| [20:29:00] | Klatuu: | but |
| [20:29:00] | Klatuu: | I tried the "directory" option |
| [20:29:00] | Klatuu: | which if I read the help correctly should mirror the file system |
| [20:29:00] | Klatuu: | but it does nothing as far as I can tell |
| [20:30:00] | Klatuu: | I just want to be able to easliy browse my collection at this point |
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| [20:33:00] | Klatuu: | there |
| [20:33:00] | Klatuu: | that is fixed |
| [20:33:00] | Klatuu: | and it is NOT intuitive |
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| [20:35:00] | Klatuu: | "Show Entire Music Tree" should be on the general settings page |
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| [20:40:00] | Juski_: | there was a rumbling I heard a long time ago about major changes in myth regarding pulling some of the plugins into the core code... the UI stuff is being rewritten so maybe it'll get a full overhaul eventually |
| [20:41:00] | Juski_: | something I often wonder is – are there any other linux music players a) usable on a TV and b) remote controllable ? |
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| [20:43:00] | ** Juski_ goes to get booze – relegated to the computer room tonight ** | |
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| [21:07:00] | astate: | i'm running a gentoo install (currently, may change it :P) and I was wondering if there was a way of building (emerging) mythtv as just a backend and not having to install X (and possibly skipping ALSA too?) |
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| [21:09:00] | Klatuu: | I think some of the configuration of mythbackend depends on X |
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| [21:10:00] | Klatuu: | right now there is no way to install mythbackend by itself that I know of |
| [21:11:00] | astate: | ick :( then its probably gonna take a day or two on my 400mhz backend huh? :P |
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| [21:12:00] | kormoc: | astate, mythbackend depends on QT as well as X and mysql and all that |
| [21:12:00] | Klatuu: | you can see if there is a X package for your platform |
| [21:12:00] | kormoc: | Klatuu, he's on gentoo :P |
| [21:12:00] | Klatuu: | there are binary packages for gentoo |
| [21:12:00] | kormoc: | astate, I'd recommend that you go with xorg 7.0, as with it's modular style, it is much faster to emerge |
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| [21:13:00] | Klatuu: | I use gentoo |
| [21:13:00] | kormoc: | Klatuu, but they tend to be quite out of date |
| [21:13:00] | kormoc: | Klatuu, and so the first update will compile anyway |
| [21:13:00] | Klatuu: | I didn't say they would be easy to find |
| [21:14:00] | astate: | k....i'm not against switching my distro...my initial thought was gentoo would be the easiest because I figured I could just "emerge mythtv" |
| [21:14:00] | kormoc: | astate, you can, and it will go, and just take awhile :P |
| [21:14:00] | kormoc: | astate, you could setup distcc and cluster compile, which would speed it up a bit |
| [21:14:00] | clintar: | 400Mhz backend and you thought gentoo? hehe |
| [21:15:00] | kormoc: | astate, or just create a bin package of a already installed x install on a box with similar stats |
| [21:15:00] | Klatuu: | I am running gentoo on my 500mhz firewall |
| [21:15:00] | dev-: | thats what i do with my 450mhz laptop. distcc's on 2 xp3200's and 1 1.4ghz athlon heh |
| [21:15:00] | Klatuu: | no problems |
| [21:15:00] | kormoc: | I ran gentoo on a 486 dx4 66 :) |
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| [21:15:00] | Klatuu: | emerge -u world |
| [21:15:00] | Klatuu: | walk away |
| [21:15:00] | Klatuu: | watch tv |
| [21:15:00] | Klatuu: | sleep |
| [21:15:00] | Klatuu: | then it is done |
| [21:16:00] | clintar: | anyone here have reliable firewire input? |
| [21:16:00] | astate: | are there any up to date distros that'd have everything precompiled (that isn't redhat :P) like a knoppix solution or something? |
| [21:16:00] | clintar: | there was knopmyth |
| [21:16:00] | clintar: | dunno if it's updated |
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| [21:17:00] | kormoc: | astate, there's packages for ubuntu and debian and fedora, iirc |
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| [21:18:00] | astate: | i think i've dabbled in debian in a bit in the past, i'll probably look inot that |
| [21:18:00] | astate: | *into |
| [21:18:00] | dev-: | k |
| [21:18:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [21:18:00] | Klatuu: | ugh |
| [21:18:00] | Klatuu: | debian |
| [21:18:00] | Klatuu: | it gives me gas |
| [21:19:00] | dev-: | would figure a gentoo user would say that ;p |
| [21:19:00] | Klatuu: | I tried debian |
| [21:19:00] | Klatuu: | once |
| [21:19:00] | Klatuu: | and that was enough |
| [21:20:00] | astate: | well I'm definitely all about gentoo for my main PC, but I know every flavor has its strong points, and for a mythtv backend I really don't care...I just want what'll be quickest/easiest to get up and running |
| [21:20:00] | Klatuu: | gentoo wont be quick to install |
| [21:20:00] | dev-: | windows and media center |
| [21:20:00] | dev-: | are you best bet |
| [21:20:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [21:21:00] | astate: | but there's no xbmc front end for that :P |
| [21:21:00] | Klatuu: | but I don't see why it matters if it isn't a computer you are using interactively |
| [21:21:00] | dev-: | so sick of people going "whats the quickest and easiest! i am a tool!" |
| [21:21:00] | dev-: | ;/ |
| [21:21:00] | astate: | well I am :p I'm not even installing it for myself |
| [21:22:00] | clintar: | yeah, i've been trying to get a stable myth box for 2 years, and that's fine! |
| [21:22:00] | clintar: | bleh |
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| [21:23:00] | Klatuu: | stable is not a word to us |
| [21:23:00] | Klatuu: | e |
| [21:23:00] | Juski_: | stable? > 6 months uptime for 0.18 and me |
| [21:23:00] | dev-: | same. |
| [21:23:00] | Juski_: | looking forward to another > 6 months |
| [21:24:00] | dev-: | same :D |
| [21:24:00] | dev-: | only trouble i had with 6months+ uptime was a small memory leak in mythfrontend, process would be useing near 700meg of ram by then |
| [21:24:00] | dev-: | have to see what happens with .19 :D |
| [21:24:00] | Juski_: | I never have frontend up for more than a day at a time |
| [21:24:00] | dtm: | i just had my first problem with 0.18.1. it spontaneously stopped working and i had to restart it, after about a month or two |
| [21:25:00] | dtm: | :} |
| [21:25:00] | Juski_: | only issue I ever had with the backend crashing was my stupid channel changer script failing. my own fault, totally |
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| [21:26:00] | dev-: | my backends have never crashed. |
| [21:26:00] | dev-: | knock on wood, i guess |
| [21:26:00] | dev-: | :D |
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| [21:26:00] | astate: | what distros are you two using? (Juski_ and dev-) |
| [21:27:00] | Juski_: | astate: gentoo and minimyth |
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| [21:27:00] | Juski_: | keep swearing to move to ubuntu for the backend if gentoo pisses me off any more, but last time it did it didn't take long to fix |
| [21:27:00] | Juski_: | lesson learned for not updating portage for over 6 months I suppose |
| [21:28:00] | dev-: | my backends are gentoo, 1 frontend is gentoo, the other 2 frontends are debian |
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| [21:28:00] | Juski_: | used to have a diskless gentoo frontend but got sick of it taking too long to boot |
| [21:28:00] | dev-: | i got stuck with gentoo because at work, 1 guy was useing debian and the other was useing redhat |
| [21:28:00] | lwizardl: | hi |
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| [21:29:00] | dev-: | both were having problems, so i drew the gentoo straw. i dont mind gentoo, because im a bsd guy. so portage and me go together well |
| [21:29:00] | lwizardl: | anyone here using a vga to component cable on their mythtv box? |
| [21:29:00] | dev-: | Juski_: yeah my frontends use 40gig laptop drives |
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| [21:29:00] | ** Klatuu would have a more stable myth box if he could easily drop a network cable to it's location ** | |
| [21:31:00] | ** Juski_ would have a more stable myth box if he got round to fixing the floor it's sat on... boomboom tish ** | |
| [21:31:00] | dev-: | id have more stable mythboxes if .19 didnt come out and i didnth ave ot upgrade |
| [21:31:00] | dev-: | drr drr ;) |
| [21:33:00] | astate: | well gentoo's portage only seems to have .18.x still |
| [21:33:00] | Klatuu: | it has 0.19 |
| [21:33:00] | astate: | ah, i probably read over it too fast :) |
| [21:34:00] | Klatuu: | your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is probably set to the stable branch |
| [21:34:00] | astate: | yup |
| [21:34:00] | Juski_: | astate: it's probably still in ~x86 will be why you cannae see it yet |
| [21:35:00] | astate: | at any rate reports of 6 mos. uptime seals the deal...can't compete against unnecessary road trips, even if they would only be 2 blocks :P gentoo it is...thanks for the info |
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| [21:41:00] | Juski_: | remember astate: YMMV |
| [21:41:00] | sandos: | lwizardl, I use a VGA->SCART (RGB Component) |
| [21:41:00] | dev-: | its not the distro that makes it stable |
| [21:41:00] | sandos: | you might mean ycpbr or some other component? (S-video is also component, sort of) |
| [21:44:00] | lwizardl: | sandos: hmm was there any settings you had to set? |
| [21:44:00] | sandos: | for myth? nope. I mean, I made the cable (home-brew) and then I fixed a modeline, which took awhile and got X running with that modeline |
| [21:44:00] | sandos: | what is your problem? |
| [21:46:00] | lwizardl: | i have this cable and all i get a a messed up screen http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=901 . . . 111&sp=1 |
| [21:47:00] | sandos: | aha, what are you connecing that to? (I mean, my cable has one more lead.. sync. I assume youre using sync-on-green or something then) |
| [21:47:00] | lwizardl: | my hdtv |
| [21:48:00] | sandos: | is the image wandering about? moving up or down? |
| [21:49:00] | lwizardl: | wavey image almost like its rolling from lower left to top right |
| [21:51:00] | lwizardl: | time to go back to work be back around 10pm est |
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| [21:52:00] | sandos: | hmm |
| [21:52:00] | sandos: | "*Note: The Device to which the "VGA" connector is connected, needs to support Component video(Y-Pr-Pb)for this type of cable to work. Check your Plasma, Projector or HDTV manual, otherwise your picture won't sync! In this case you need a "transcoder"." |
| [21:52:00] | sandos: | says the documentation for such cables at one site.. I assume youre card is not able to output that? or does it have explicit HDTV support? |
| [21:53:00] | sandos: | read your gfx-card documentation and the TVs documentation.. see if the input/outputs match =) |
| [21:53:00] | sandos: | if the inputs on the TV says YPrPb and the vga-card doesnt.. then Id think you need something else |
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| [21:55:00] | sandos: | you might need one of those: http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/kd-vtca2.htm |
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| [21:59:00] | Juski_: | quickie.. what protocol ver. is 0.19 again? |
| [21:59:00] | Juski_: | duh scratch that – no matter if I ain't got a network cable for my xbox spare |
| [22:00:00] | Kelerion: | 26 and 27 |
| [22:00:00] | Kelerion: | for reference :) |
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| [22:01:00] | Juski_: | cheers Kelerion |
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| [22:02:00] | ** Kelerion gets back to the strangely daft film he recorded last night ** | |
| [22:04:00] | dtm: | Kelerion: ya gotta watch it, coz you have it, huh :) |
| [22:05:00] | Kelerion: | am half way through it and am just *hoping* that the person who made this film realised how crap a job they were doing and decided to improve themselves |
| [22:05:00] | Kelerion: | "I {heart} huckabees" is feeling like it's draining my will to live |
| [22:05:00] | Juski_: | Kelerion: you know it's never gonna happen ;) |
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| [22:06:00] | Kelerion: | I have to have faith in humanity |
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| [22:08:00] | dtm: | Kelerion: yeah. |
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| [22:11:00] | Rule: | Hello cesman :) |
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| [22:11:00] | cesman: | hello |
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| [22:14:00] | Rule: | Hmm Im getting SI table parse errors ("QDate::setYMD: Invalid date 1865-00–18"). Am I correct in assumign this is part of the EIT parser ? |
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| [22:15:00] | Juski_: | Rule: aye |
| [22:15:00] | Rule: | ok so I'll disable it to keep mythbackend up :) |
| [22:15:00] | Juski_: | heh |
| [22:16:00] | Juski_: | always important to keep your (back) end up |
| [22:16:00] | Rule: | heh perv ;) |
| [22:16:00] | Rule: | weird that is crashes the backend though |
| [22:17:00] | Juski_: | EIT parser & SIT stuff is being re-wrotted as we sit here (kind of) |
| [22:17:00] | Rule: | yeah I saw |
| [22:18:00] | Juski_: | I think it'll all come right before too long with such experts on the case though |
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| [22:43:00] | Spunx: | hello, i have come back. :) Ok so a jack cable is from the capturecard out to the audio card line-in. i can only hear the line in which is the tv audio directly. This sux since mythtv is buffering and is behind 'live', so how do i change it so that i can hear the correct sound with the correct image. |
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| [22:44:00] | Spunx: | pls help me |
| [22:44:00] | Spunx: | i have an old pctv pro card. |
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| [22:45:00] | Juski_: | Spunx: read the manual |
| [22:45:00] | Juski_: | mute the line input but have it set to selected for recording |
| [22:45:00] | brtab395: | Anybody know what has to be done to get the scheduled recordings to work after upgrading from .18 to .19? |
| [22:46:00] | Juski_: | (in your linux mixer), Spunx |
| [22:46:00] | Spunx: | Juski_, i have the gnome mixer |
| [22:46:00] | Spunx: | i shut down line-in cause that's the the sound i want. |
| [22:46:00] | Jasper^off: | :P |
| [22:47:00] | Spunx: | i read btaudio does not support pctv pro |
| [22:47:00] | brtab395: | The previously scheduled recordings are all reporting "The file for this recording can not be found" when trying to play it after recording was supposed to start. |
| [22:47:00] | Spunx: | oops meant i dont want! |
| [22:49:00] | Juski_: | Spunx: the idea is you mute the input you use in the playback section of the mixer so you don't hear it 'live' – you make sure you're set to record audio from the line input |
| [22:50:00] | Juski_: | ... juuust like it says in the mythtv FM |
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| [22:56:00] | ** jasta notices the schema for musicplaylist and raises a curious eyebrow ** | |
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| [22:57:00] | jasta: | a comma-separated list eh? |
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| [22:58:00] | Juski_: | jasta: yeh track index numbers seperated by commas |
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| [23:04:00] | jasta: | Juski_: Who is responsible for that nonsense? |
| [23:05:00] | juanchotazo: | recording on myhtfrontend works fine, but when I try to do a scheduled recording without mythfrontend running, the log says "RingBuf: /mnt/recordings//1076_20060224140000.mpg)" Invalid file (fd 8). I dont have any ideas on what might be causing this |
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| [23:05:00] | juanchotazo: | the file is there, but it is a 0, empty file |
| [23:06:00] | juanchotazo: | any ideas? |
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| [23:08:00] | jasta: | brb |
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| [23:14:00] | Merlin83b: | Any chance someone like Juski_ or GreyFoxx is around? |
| [23:15:00] | jams: | someone like Juski or greyfoxx? |
| [23:16:00] | Merlin83b: | Or anyone who might have an idea why of two encoders, one records fine, the other won't create files for recordings? |
| [23:17:00] | Merlin83b: | Figured it was a bad time for this :< |
| [23:18:00] | hyperstream: | ahh using the ./configure line |
| [23:18:00] | hyperstream: | how do i enable alsa? |
| [23:18:00] | hyperstream: | i disabled oss. and tryed --enable-audio-alsa |
| [23:18:00] | hyperstream: | but still comes up with no support |
| [23:19:00] | Juski_: | Merlin83b: hello! |
| [23:19:00] | Juski_: | and no, no idea as to why one encoder ain't recording. |
| [23:21:00] | Juski_: | Merlin83b: try some Jack Daniels ;-) |
| [23:21:00] | coffee88: | Juski_: Just how many jds will it need?! |
| [23:21:00] | Juski_: | mebbe one of the pitfalls of using SVN |
| [23:22:00] | Juski_: | it'll need a few JDs.. you'll be able to look at one encoder working & see two |
| [23:22:00] | hyperstream: | ahh using the ./configure line how do i enable alsa? i disabled oss. and tryed --enable-audio-alsa but still comes up with no support |
| [23:22:00] | coffee88: | Cool! 2 4 1! |
| [23:23:00] | Juski_: | hyperstream: you prolly need the alsa-dev libraries |
| [23:24:00] | hyperstream: | ahh |
| [23:25:00] | juanchotazo: | any ideas on what Invalid file (fd *) means? |
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| [23:26:00] | hyperstream: | perfect |
| [23:26:00] | hyperstream: | thanks alot Juski_ |
| [23:26:00] | Juski_: | np |
| [23:26:00] | Juski_: | that help was brought to you by Jack Daniel's fine whiskey |
| [23:27:00] | hyperstream: | wewt |
| [23:27:00] | hyperstream: | go the JD"s |
| [23:30:00] | Agrajag-: | hyperstream: "a lot" |
| [23:31:00] | Spunx: | ok. so now when i turn on the line in, the sound ends up in a repeating loop with the correct sound in the background. |
| [23:31:00] | Spunx: | lol |
| [23:32:00] | Agrajag-: | Spunx: so mute it? |
| [23:33:00] | Spunx: | dude! mute what, line in? but then i hear nothing |
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| [23:33:00] | Spunx: | ok |
| [23:33:00] | Agrajag-: | you have to set it to record |
| [23:33:00] | Agrajag-: | and then mute it |
| [23:33:00] | Spunx: | playback is muted |
| [23:34:00] | Spunx: | capture is not |
| [23:34:00] | Spunx: | i don't hear nothin! |
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| [23:35:00] | hyperstream: | Agrajag-, spelling test? |
| [23:35:00] | hyperstream: | heard of nz english ? |
| [23:35:00] | hyperstream: | its different to american english etc. |
| [23:35:00] | hyperstream: | ie: color and colour. |
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| [23:35:00] | Agrajag-: | hyperstream: are you trying to say nz's spell "a lot" as one word? |
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| [23:36:00] | Agrajag-: | excuse me, but i'm australian, i'd think i'd know |
| [23:36:00] | hyperstream: | im australian also. |
| [23:36:00] | hyperstream: | well know i am :) |
| [23:36:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, so please don't make us look stupid by spelling "a lot" as one word, because it's not, it's two |
| [23:36:00] | hyperstream: | but anyhow. whats alot and a lot matter to yourself? |
| [23:36:00] | hyperstream: | ill spell it how ever i wish lol. im sure you can understand it . this is irc not english. |
| [23:37:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, if you want to appear stupid that's fine |
| [23:37:00] | hyperstream: | sure. |
| [23:37:00] | hyperstream: | :) |
| [23:40:00] | hyperstream: | ewww: warning: libstdc++.so.6, needed by /usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.5 |
| [23:40:00] | Spida: | anybody got a clue how the timeoffset from EPG to clock is called in the db= |
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| [23:43:00] | Merlin83b: | Nice try Juski_, gotta be up early though. |
| [23:43:00] | Merlin83b: | I've just set the working encoder to a higher preference for now. |
| [23:43:00] | Merlin83b: | And am working on the theory that I need a powered signal splitter thingy when i get back off hols in a week and a bit. |
| [23:48:00] | Juski_: | well you could always try using PiP to test that theory out |
| [23:48:00] | Juski_: | it _does_ have a use after all ;-) |
| [23:49:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
| [23:49:00] | Merlin83b: | I have managed to watch while it was recording something else, but it may be getting a marginal signal. |
| [23:50:00] | Merlin83b: | Don't have the time to play with it now, though. |
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| [23:50:00] | Juski_: | most I can manage is two tuners passed thru to each other |
| [23:50:00] | Juski_: | any more and ... |
| [23:50:00] | ** Juski_ plays the Mr Babbage 'family fortunes' sample ** | |
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| [23:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, think that may be it – this is two tuners one passing through but I don't have fantastic signal usually. Investigation in a couple of weeks. |
| [23:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Seeya :-) |
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| [23:56:00] | hyperstream: | http://pastebin.com/571194 anyone know how to resolve this issue |
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| [23:59:00] | hyperstream: | why does alsa require oss headers? |
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