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| [00:06:00] | xris: | laga: you could get a dish |
| [00:06:00] | xris: | aren't there any german dvb-s providers? |
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| [00:08:00] | laga: | xris: there are a lot of german DVB-s providers. in fact, all the stuff i can get over cable is available via dvb-s as well. but my parents would kill me if i got myself a dish ;) |
| [00:09:00] | o_cee: | xris, been busy? |
| [00:09:00] | o_cee: | np: Portishead – Wandering Star |
| [00:09:00] | o_cee: | seriously weird music |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | o_cee: busy at work, and stupid video game (final fantasy 9) at home. |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | laga: 18" isn't that bad. heh |
| [00:10:00] | o_cee: | xris, haha, okay :) i think there was a dupe of my ticket, might have been the same |
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| [00:11:00] | laga: | xris: i might be able to hide it ;) |
| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | laga, just put it up and glue a fake bird to it, clame it's a endangered, rare bird and that removing the dish will remove it's nest and be illegal! |
| [00:13:00] | laga: | kormoc: that might just work. :) |
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| [00:33:00] | scopeuk: | guys entire screen full of disc io erros dead hdd? |
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| [01:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. any way to add more mythtv music visuals? |
| [01:05:00] | Chutt: | with the source. |
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| [01:09:00] | fenix: | hello, i have matrox g450 and i want to display mythtv on tv-out. how to do that? i think that there are two options: using xdirectfb or using qt-embedded. does someone have this graphic card? |
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| [01:20:00] | Cardoe: | laga: did you try 0.19-r1? |
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| [01:23:00] | nasa: | fenix: google is your friend. Ie — http://www.bglug.ca/matrox_tvout/ (done with a quick search). Since mythtv is an application, the users here aren't the people to ask. Try looking for a matrox user forum. |
| [01:24:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: did you try 0.19-r1? |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, will when I get home, it's emerged |
| [01:24:00] | Cardoe: | it emerged for you? |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | beleive so, aye |
| [01:25:00] | Cardoe: | dev- says it won't emerge |
| [01:25:00] | Cardoe: | he says the patch fails |
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| [01:25:00] | Cardoe: | the patch is fine here. |
| [01:25:00] | Cardoe: | on 2 boxes |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | nope, emerged fine on 2 out of 3 boxes, 3ed box is still compiling, and the patch was fine |
| [01:25:00] | Cardoe: | Yeah worked on 2 boxes here. |
| [01:25:00] | Cardoe: | he's just on crack |
| [01:26:00] | kormoc: | have him wipe his distfiles and portage dirs |
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| [02:04:00] | human39: | does anybody use myth with directtv? |
| [02:04:00] | redline-: | Guys, is there any reason why I can see all of my recordings on my frontend only but on my frontend/backend machine I only see some of my recordings? |
| [02:06:00] | Kelerion: | different recording group being viewed? |
| [02:08:00] | macroexp: | human39, i do, but it doesn't work very well. can't control the receiver i have with ir blaster or via serial/usb |
| [02:08:00] | macroexp: | i end up setting timers on the receiver to coincide with scheduled recordings. kinda blows |
| [02:08:00] | human39: | that was my second question, seeing if the IR blaster worked |
| [02:08:00] | human39: | ;-) |
| [02:08:00] | macroexp: | it really depends on the receiver you have |
| [02:09:00] | macroexp: | a lot of them evidently work, just not the one i got "free" for signing up with directv |
| [02:09:00] | human39: | hrm, so I should research that |
| [02:10:00] | human39: | I got my brand spanking new mythbox up and running, I think its time I get cable. ;-) |
| [02:10:00] | macroexp: | yeah the low-end standard def receiver they distribute now is the d11–300, and it doesn't work. the older d11–500 does, as do the d10's |
| [02:10:00] | redline-: | Kelerion: how do I know what group I am in? |
| [02:10:00] | redline-: | I just checked through all mythfrontend settings |
| [02:10:00] | Kelerion: | on recording screen menu M..change group filter |
| [02:10:00] | redline-: | k ill try that thanks |
| [02:11:00] | human39: | macroexp, any idea if you can request those receivers? |
| [02:11:00] | macroexp: | nope, don't know. i just took what they gave and found out later about what worked and what didn't :) |
| [02:12:00] | human39: | probably unlikely |
| [02:12:00] | rav3r: | is there a tutorial for setting up nes or snes for mythgame somewhere? |
| [02:13:00] | human39: | rav3r, check the wiki, the cover most of them. |
| [02:13:00] | human39: | s/the/they/ |
| [02:13:00] | macroexp: | it's possible that the new receivers will be supported at some point. i've tried my best at reverse engineering the command set on this d11–300 but the best i can do is to get it to change to a random channel |
| [02:13:00] | macroexp: | not really useful :) |
| [02:13:00] | redline-: | Kelerion: thanks! that worked |
| [02:13:00] | human39: | macroexp, you mentioned serial. They have serial ports? |
| [02:13:00] | Kelerion: | np |
| [02:14:00] | macroexp: | older ones do. all the new ones have usb ports, you use a usb->serial adapter and then serial to the pc from that |
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| [02:14:00] | human39: | hrm, interesting |
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| [02:15:00] | rav3r: | ah, the wiki, thanks |
| [02:15:00] | macroexp: | i can talk to my box that way, but they changed the command set. all the silly commands still work (power on/off, osd on/off, etc) but not the channel changing commands |
| [02:16:00] | human39: | hrm, so reverse engineering is possible, just need to find it out |
| [02:17:00] | macroexp: | yeah... evidently this one is manufactured by philips but i'm not too hopeful about getting any info out of them |
| [02:18:00] | human39: | cool. |
| [02:19:00] | human39: | I'm not sure what to do now. |
| [02:19:00] | macroexp: | buy the equipment off ebay and just sign up for service? |
| [02:19:00] | human39: | I might. |
| [02:20:00] | human39: | one last piece before I take that jump |
| [02:20:00] | human39: | I only have a 20G hd at this point |
| [02:20:00] | human39: | ;-) |
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| [02:30:00] | spstarr: | hrm |
| [02:30:00] | spstarr: | has anyone hacked the Gatos KM driver to work with full Video4Linux support? |
| [02:30:00] | spstarr: | is it possible to do with that code base? |
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| [02:31:00] | spstarr: | it has some bits |
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| [02:32:00] | sillysally: | hey boys |
| [02:33:00] | sillysally: | it was the drive afterall ... ya'll were right.. even tho i could read cd's the drive was messed up |
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| [02:35:00] | arcadies: | squish102 u suck |
| [02:35:00] | arcadies: | ;/ |
| [02:35:00] | sillysally: | cardoe you there? |
| [02:37:00] | nasa: | anyone know how to run nvidia-setting on a remote box (logged in via ssh). I tried all 3 of these options http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=NvidiaSetup but I either permission denied or can't open display errors |
| [02:37:00] | Achew22: | do one that gave permission denied but do as su – or sudo |
| [02:38:00] | nasa: | AcheW22: you mean run as root? |
| [02:38:00] | Achew22: | yeah try it |
| [02:38:00] | Achew22: | thats what I do when I don't have permission |
| [02:38:00] | Kelerion: | all it does is creating a settings file in your home dir.. so run as root and then you can copy it over to your normal user |
| [02:40:00] | nasa: | Running as root gives me "Xlib:connection to "mythtv:0.0" refused by server. Xlib: No protocol specified. ERROR: Cannot open display 'mythtv:0'. |
| [02:40:00] | Kelerion: | run it with sudo |
| [02:40:00] | nasa: | I tried nvidia-settings --ctrl-display=:0 and nvidia-settings --ctrl-display=mythtv:0 |
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| [02:41:00] | macroexp: | xhost + |
| [02:41:00] | Kelerion: | sudo nvidia-settings --ctrl-display=:0 |
| [02:42:00] | nasa: | access control disabled, clients can connect from any host |
| [02:42:00] | macroexp: | then try your nvidia-settings again |
| [02:42:00] | nasa: | ran Kelerion's suggestion — got same errors. |
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| [02:49:00] | Cardoe: | sillysally: yes |
| [02:49:00] | Cardoe: | sillysally: what's up? |
| [02:49:00] | Cardoe: | soldering my Xbox right now.. |
| [02:49:00] | Cardoe: | so I'm in and out |
| [02:49:00] | Cardoe: | Who has a modded Xbox in here? |
| [02:50:00] | Beirdo: | mine's got a software mod (dumbass was SUPPOSED to put in a modchip) |
| [02:50:00] | sillysally: | hey Cardoe |
| [02:51:00] | sillysally: | turns out it was the drive got a new one and awaaaaayyyy i go! |
| [02:52:00] | Cardoe: | sillysally: cool :) |
| [02:52:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: that sucks |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [02:52:00] | sillysally: | now i am trying to get that remote issue resolved.. weirdest thing ever! |
| [02:54:00] | sillysally: | i can't find anything in the ml or net on it.. but when i use my remote to change a selection the screen blinks black and then back again lol |
| [02:54:00] | sillysally: | so i am messing around trying out various lircd.conf files |
| [02:54:00] | sillysally: | hoping that may solve it |
| [02:55:00] | Kelerion: | why not make your own lircd.conf? it's a lot easier than messing around |
| [02:56:00] | sillysally: | for some reason ircrecord doesn't work well for me.. it catches like every other button.. weird huh? |
| [02:56:00] | Kelerion: | every other button? explain further |
| [02:57:00] | macroexp: | toggle_bit |
| [02:57:00] | sillysally: | well when i record the file.. i get one just fine.. then when i run the test with irw some of the buttons register and others dont |
| [02:57:00] | sillysally: | some get out of sequence.. its strange |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | I had that with one of my remotes.. it turned out that my remote generated multiple codes for the same keypress.. so I had to record all codes for that keypress |
| [02:58:00] | Kelerion: | just meant I had to do it a few times |
| [02:59:00] | sillysally: | not sure what you mean by that.. it generated multiple codes.. hmmm |
| [02:59:00] | Kelerion: | also.. depending on the remote you might have to set it up to act as a certain *type* of remote.. expecially the types of all-in-one type remotes |
| [03:00:00] | Kelerion: | ie, vcr,sat,amp,tv etc |
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| [03:00:00] | macroexp: | mine was the same way, it is a toggle bit, it toggles a bit, like mine it was bit 2, so the thing can detect multiple button presses in quick succession |
| [03:00:00] | sillysally: | i have the haup 250 with the grey and black remote.. the standard lircd.conf didn't work so i tried to get it using irrecord but had that prob.. so i am checking out some of the standard ones out there |
| [03:00:00] | macroexp: | lirc supports that sort of thing, my conf is up at http://pastebin.ca/42859 |
| [03:01:00] | macroexp: | mine's a 350 with remote, i guess i'd say it's black and silver? |
| [03:01:00] | sillysally: | to see if that fixes the problem i am having with the screen "blanking" when i change options in myth |
| [03:01:00] | sillysally: | silver/grey.. same thing |
| [03:02:00] | Kelerion: | ahh I have a kameleon 9660.. works a bit differently with that |
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| [03:04:00] | ** nasa is just getting no love... ** | |
| [03:04:00] | sillysally: | need to reboot be back in a few :-) |
| [03:04:00] | sillysally: | before i head off.. anyone have that issue i was talking about? with the screen blanking? |
| [03:04:00] | Kelerion: | I didn't like the remotes I got with my wintv or pvr250.. but I did like the one I got with my dvb card.. it's a usbhid device so no messing with lirc.. but thats in my bedroom frontend.. kameleon is in my living room |
| [03:05:00] | nasa: | I started up a vnc session and logged into remote computer that way. logged in as my mythtv user and then tried nvidia-setting --ctrl-display=:0 |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | no blanking here because of lirc |
| [03:05:00] | nasa: | same errors as before... |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | even when it wasn't working right |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | if your in a vnc session shouldn't it be :1 or similar? |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | or you using x11vnc? |
| [03:07:00] | sillysally: | to get my remote working i used a standard haup lircd.conf in the remotes dir for 0.8 on my box.. i haven't tried any others.. tyring to figure out what would make the screen blank with the remote but not the keyboard |
| [03:07:00] | nasa: | Kelerion: I am using tightvnc |
| [03:08:00] | Kelerion: | when you start the vnc server it tells you what display # it is.. :1,:2,:3 etc etc |
| [03:08:00] | nasa: | Kelerion: If I start with a :1 — it gives me a box to configure :1 display (which isn't the display that the tv is using...) |
| [03:08:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. tv is on :0 |
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| [03:09:00] | Kelerion: | besides.. vnc wouldn't work right anyways.. you lose most of the options in nvidia-settings if your viewing it through vnc |
| [03:09:00] | Kelerion: | at least you do on :1 |
| [03:10:00] | nasa: | yeah, how do I setup vncserver to allow connections on :0 ? |
| [03:10:00] | Kelerion: | use x11vnc |
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| [03:13:00] | Kelerion: | all depends on dist |
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| [03:13:00] | Kelerion: | it's built-in in my ubuntu... very handy |
| [03:14:00] | nasa: | Kelerion: I am searching for it now :} |
| [03:16:00] | Kelerion: | anyways.. time for my bed... g'night |
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| [03:22:00] | croxis: | I broke it :( |
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| [03:25:00] | croxis: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
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| [03:30:00] | croxis: | hi |
| [03:30:00] | sillysally: | screen is still blanking ;-( |
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| [03:31:00] | croxis: | at least yours is still running. I don't know what i did but now the backend wont start |
| [03:33:00] | sillysally: | when i am diagnosing this and i exit out of mythtv after a reboot and restart mythfrontend it doesn't recognize remote commands.. isn't there something that i need to run before launching mythfrontend.. but i can't remember the file name irevent or something anyone know? |
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| [03:34:00] | sillysally: | croxis that could be a million things.. diskspace.. hardware failure.. tons of things.. have you diagnosed running it by command line? |
| [03:34:00] | croxis: | thats what i'm doing. Whats wierd was that it was running fine last night |
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| [03:35:00] | sillysally: | i don't remember the diagnostic switch that increases the logging.. anyone know that off hand? |
| [03:37:00] | croxis: | i undid the last changes i remember, attempting restart |
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| [03:45:00] | ** croxis cries some more ** | |
| [03:46:00] | croxis: | mysql is working |
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| [03:47:00] | croxis: | the mailing list is not helping =P |
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| [04:25:00] | Agrajag-: | xris: the headers in all the mythweb source files – im assuming they're autogenerated somehow? how? |
| [04:26:00] | xris: | which headers? |
| [04:26:00] | Agrajag-: | the comment – @url @date and such |
| [04:27:00] | xris: | oh, yeah.. they're generated by subversion |
| [04:27:00] | Agrajag-: | ah ok |
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| [04:31:00] | sillysally: | okay fixed my screen "blanking" when i use my remote |
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| [04:32:00] | sillysally: | it was a matter of chaning the desktop resolution to something lower than 1024x768 once that was done using my remote no longer "blanked" the screen when changing options |
| [04:34:00] | sillysally: | posted that if someone ever asks about a prob like that |
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| [04:40:00] | jaytee: | I'm having difficulties filling my channel lineup database |
| [04:40:00] | jaytee: | mythfilldatabase is failing |
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| [04:42:00] | jaytee: | anyone know why this might be happening? |
| [04:42:00] | dev-: | solar flares? |
| [04:42:00] | jaytee: | naw ;) |
| [04:42:00] | topping: | mercury is in retrograde |
| [04:43:00] | jaytee: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized |
| [04:43:00] | jaytee: | doesn't seem to be getting the channel guide very well |
| [04:43:00] | topping: | didja create an account? |
| [04:43:00] | jaytee: | yep |
| [04:43:00] | jaytee: | and i can login from firefox |
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| [04:44:00] | topping: | added all the account info to mythsetup then? |
| [04:44:00] | Achew22: | yep... |
| [04:44:00] | Achew22: | it loads really well.. but only knows how to tune one channel |
| [04:44:00] | jaytee: | did that too |
| [04:44:00] | Achew22: | oops not for me |
| [04:44:00] | jaytee: | is it somewhere in a config I can check? |
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| [04:45:00] | topping: | jaytee: did you select your lineup online? |
| [04:45:00] | jaytee: | yes |
| [04:45:00] | topping: | ok ok just checking :) |
| [04:45:00] | jaytee: | hmmm |
| [04:45:00] | jaytee: | doesn't show up |
| [04:45:00] | jaytee: | that might pose a problem |
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| [04:46:00] | sillysally: | anyone getting a slight buzzing in the background using alsa? |
| [04:46:00] | topping: | tinnitus will do that |
| [04:47:00] | jaytee: | selected.. (thought i did this before) |
| [04:48:00] | jaytee: | it stuck this time... weird |
| [04:52:00] | Cardoe: | Who's got a modded Xbox? |
| [04:52:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | why? |
| [04:52:00] | topping: | +1 |
| [04:52:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | i do |
| [04:53:00] | ** topping has two of them ** | |
| [04:53:00] | dev-: | same, they used to be my media center boxes before myth |
| [04:53:00] | dev-: | xbmp was the shit — though ive used xbmc and it blows it away ;) |
| [04:53:00] | topping: | let's make a ginormous statue out of them! |
| [04:53:00] | dev-: | but back then, it was the shit. |
| [04:54:00] | sillysally: | hey guys is it possible to set up mythvideo to access more than one directory.. i.e. one local and one on a server? |
| [04:55:00] | jaytee: | will it refuse to change channels if the program lineup is empty? |
| [04:55:00] | sillysally: | hmmm guess no one knows? |
| [04:56:00] | topping: | jaytee: probably |
| [04:56:00] | topping: | jaytee: can you enter a channel directly? |
| [04:56:00] | jaytee: | seems to be pulling stuff down |
| [04:56:00] | jaytee: | no |
| [04:56:00] | jaytee: | entering numbers doesn't seem to help |
| [04:56:00] | jaytee: | i thought i should be able to press up or down arrows to move |
| [04:57:00] | jaytee: | or enter the channel number directly |
| [04:57:00] | jaytee: | at least i'm getting video :-) |
| [04:57:00] | topping: | jaytee: you definitely can once the channel table is loaded |
| [04:57:00] | jaytee: | (and this is just night 1) |
| [04:58:00] | topping: | hey now, you aren't allowed to be up and running that fast.... ;-) |
| [04:58:00] | jaytee: | seems to take about 10–20 seconds per channel to download... |
| [04:58:00] | jaytee: | hehe |
| [04:58:00] | jaytee: | running on a pundit-r with a nice little celeron |
| [05:00:00] | briand: | jaytee: sounds like my system. pundit-r, 2.4GHz celeron, 512MB, pvr-350, pvr-500, and 300G drive.. |
| [05:01:00] | jaytee: | briand, yep... but I've just got a pvr-150 and a spare 45G drive I had laying about |
| [05:02:00] | jaytee: | i'll replace the drive soon |
| [05:02:00] | topping: | RAID5! RAID5! |
| [05:02:00] | briand: | ;) no doubt. Myth is addictive. |
| [05:02:00] | jaytee: | are you using the TV-out on the pundit? |
| [05:03:00] | briand: | I'm already making plans to build a (hefty?) NFS share for my /video directory |
| [05:03:00] | topping: | i have 2.5t of disk |
| [05:03:00] | jaytee: | woot! |
| [05:03:00] | briand: | jaytee: nope. i'm using the TV-Out on the PVR-350 card. |
| [05:03:00] | jaytee: | ahh yeah |
| [05:03:00] | topping: | jaytee: when you set up your disk(s), consider how you are going to grow it |
| [05:03:00] | topping: | it's *really* important to think about up front |
| [05:04:00] | briand: | topping: I have a MB with 4 IDE controllers, built-in. ...that's room for 8 drives. ;) ... or, using 500G drives, 4TB of video storage. |
| [05:04:00] | topping: | sweet... i ended up with some scrap drives in four of my eight sots |
| [05:04:00] | topping: | slots |
| [05:04:00] | topping: | 4x400g + 4x250g |
| [05:05:00] | briand: | cool. :) |
| [05:05:00] | jaytee: | for asthetic reasons, i'm limited to the simple small pundit box (for now) |
| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | onlyl 8 drives? |
| [05:05:00] | briand: | Chutt: in that one server, sure. More later, if necessary. |
| [05:05:00] | topping: | couldn't stand to pitch the 250s right away, but they are set up as separate RAID5 sets |
| [05:05:00] | topping: | Chutt: how are you doing your drives? external chassis? |
| [05:06:00] | Chutt: | uh, no, i just have a tiny amount of storage :p |
| [05:06:00] | briand: | Chutt: in fact.. hmm. I might find a deal on a DataStor and just network in 50 or 60 TB ;) |
| [05:06:00] | topping: | i have a scalar 100, but they quit making drives for it |
| [05:06:00] | briand: | ...but I'd have to become *really* addicted to television before that kind of investment. |
| [05:06:00] | topping: | or dvds |
| [05:07:00] | topping: | it's not the addiction to movies, it's the women that like the movies |
| [05:07:00] | briand: | 'zackly. ;) |
| [05:07:00] | Chutt: | but i believe that my desktop box could handle 12 drives if i really wanted it to |
| [05:07:00] | Chutt: | though this case only has 11 drive bays |
| [05:07:00] | briand: | well, anyway.. i'm off to bed.. gotta get up for work in 5.5 hours. g'nite all |
| [05:07:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I have one case that could handle that if I got a new PSU |
| [05:07:00] | jaytee: | LVM and XFS are your friend(s) |
| [05:08:00] | sillysally: | chutt has anyone found a good way to use mythvideo to access multiple directories on multiple machines? |
| [05:08:00] | topping: | nite |
| [05:08:00] | Chutt: | sillysally, err, nfs mounts? |
| [05:08:00] | jaytee: | yay! getting the program listings really helps ;-) |
| [05:08:00] | briand: | jaytee: indeed. |
| [05:08:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | yeongyang used to make a nice faux-next type cube case that had 8 extra 3.5 bays underneath the mobo. |
| [05:08:00] | jaytee: | i'm off to play |
| [05:08:00] | ** briand waves g'nite all around. ** | |
| [05:08:00] | jaytee: | bye y'all |
| [05:08:00] | jaytee: | bye briand |
| [05:09:00] | jaytee: | thanks for the help all... I'll be back |
| [05:09:00] | topping: | l8s |
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| [05:09:00] | briand: | s/s/r/g |
| [05:09:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [05:09:00] | sillysally: | chutt you have a good place for me to learn that.. I have not set up nfs mounts to windows boxes or other linux machines b4 |
| [05:09:00] | Chutt: | no |
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| [05:16:00] | Cardoe: | topping: you have MythTV installed on your Xbox? |
| [05:16:00] | topping: | yes |
| [05:16:00] | rjune: | sillysally: you don't nfs mount on a windows machien |
| [05:16:00] | Cardoe: | topping: and suggestions |
| [05:17:00] | topping: | to get it working? |
| [05:17:00] | sillysally: | yea i know.. samba.. but i don't know the best way to do it |
| [05:17:00] | topping: | or how to make it better? :-) |
| [05:18:00] | Cardoe: | get it working |
| [05:18:00] | Cardoe: | later how to make it better |
| [05:18:00] | topping: | my xboxen are running xebian, so i turned off fluxbox and all the non-essential processes, checked out from svn and let it compile for a day or so |
| [05:18:00] | Cardoe: | I'm struggling horribly |
| [05:18:00] | topping: | where are you stuck? |
| [05:18:00] | Cardoe: | I just installed my X-Lite chip |
| [05:18:00] | topping: | out of memory errors? |
| [05:18:00] | topping: | oh |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | tested it everything |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | turned it off |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | put it all back together |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | turned it back on |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | connected a controller |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | it was at the X-Lite Cromwell 1.1 screen |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | bunch of choices |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | I dropped the controller on the way back to the laptop |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | last thing I saw is "switching to bios A" |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | or something like that |
| [05:20:00] | topping: | what's it doing now? |
| [05:20:00] | Cardoe: | and now when I turn it on before showing anything it turns off after like 3 seconds |
| [05:20:00] | topping: | can you boot an os? |
| [05:20:00] | topping: | ewww |
| [05:20:00] | Cardoe: | then waits 2 seconds and turns back on |
| [05:20:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | actually doesn't SFU have nfs client for windows in it? |
| [05:20:00] | Cardoe: | but boots to the Xbox Dashboard |
| [05:20:00] | Cardoe: | and forgets the time |
| [05:20:00] | Cardoe: | ip_goat_rodeo: yes |
| [05:20:00] | topping: | forgetting the time is a bad thing |
| [05:20:00] | topping: | sounds like a hardware issue |
| [05:21:00] | Cardoe: | it was fine until I dropped the controller |
| [05:21:00] | dev-: | it might have accidentally flashed an empty bios on the chip |
| [05:21:00] | topping: | that's strange, controller shouldn't make a diff |
| [05:21:00] | Cardoe: | dev-: that's what I'm thinking |
| [05:21:00] | Cardoe: | damnit |
| [05:21:00] | topping: | yah it sounds like something likethat |
| [05:22:00] | dev-: | there are tools to fix, its ok, the ones i still have on disk are years old so i dont know if theyre around anymore. but ozxflasher i think its called |
| [05:22:00] | Cardoe: | the chip has recovery mode |
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| [05:37:00] | dev-: | yeah, useful if you want to take the drive out and put it in a pc or something |
| [05:37:00] | dev-: | oops. |
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| [05:43:00] | Majestik: | I'm trying to get nuvexport (and mythfrontend) working on a remote machine, and it looks like it's not inserting the hostname into the settings table.. it's on 0.19 |
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| [05:52:00] | Majestik: | Ok.. nevermind, throwing the insert into the sql DB did the trick.. not sure if it's a nuvexport or a mythtv issue, but it's working for me now |
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| [06:04:00] | Chutt: | dev-, don't msg me. |
| [06:04:00] | dev-: | lol woops sorry. |
| [06:05:00] | dev-: | was just going to bed and thought it say it really quick |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | unless your log file is _identical_, then it's not the same issue. |
| [06:06:00] | dev-: | get the same prebuffer wait timeouts, and a huge scroll of livetv forcing jumpto 1 |
| [06:06:00] | Chutt: | err, yeah |
| [06:06:00] | Chutt: | that's _exactly_ what i meant by identical. |
| [06:07:00] | dev-: | well um, obviously the ringbuffer uri is different |
| [06:07:00] | dev-: | heh. |
| [06:07:00] | dev-: | we're talking about 1340's log no |
| [06:07:00] | Chutt: | regardless, i don't really give a damn anymore. |
| [06:08:00] | Chutt: | someone else can fix it. |
| [06:08:00] | dev-: | heh ok. |
| [06:08:00] | Chutt: | not that that'll happen |
| [06:14:00] | Chutt: | GreyFoxx, fixed your fps stuff |
| [06:16:00] | Agrajag-: | xris: just attached my patch for #1146 |
| [06:16:00] | Chutt: | dev-, the prebuffering pause + forcing jumpto stuff are symptoms, not indicators of a specific problem. |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | hell, they're not even debugging statements from the same thread as what's having issues. |
| [06:18:00] | akira: | are there any digital tv capture cards available with linux drivers? |
| [06:18:00] | dtm: | has anyone here finished Super Mario RPG? and that is of course relevant because it could conceivably be played via mythtv. |
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| [06:47:00] | Chutt: | i don't even know why i bother, sometimes. |
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| [06:52:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, cause you love us ever much! |
| [06:52:00] | Chutt: | trac's closed, untill i install the user reg stuff |
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| [06:52:00] | kormoc: | not unexpected. |
| [06:55:00] | dev-: | if the tickets are closed the problem doesnt exist, right |
| [06:55:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [06:56:00] | Chutt: | well, in that case, yes. |
| [06:56:00] | Chutt: | since that problem is fixed. |
| [06:56:00] | Chutt: | i don't see why everyone thinks that they have the same problem. |
| [06:57:00] | dev-: | maybe its not, but everyones logs show the same thing |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | no, they don't |
| [06:57:00] | dev-: | oh ok. |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | people aren't looking at the right things. |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | they see the 'prebuffering pause' and a couple other lines match, and think it's the same bug. |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | but it's not. |
| [06:58:00] | Chutt: | since those don't have anything to do with what's actually wrong. |
| [06:58:00] | Chutt: | if you're coughing, do you automatically assume that it's the flu? |
| [06:58:00] | dev-: | actually i was compareing to LiveTVChain(live-ares-2006-02–23T01:27:37): ReloadAll(): Added new recording |
| [06:58:00] | dev-: | and below, of course different hostnames tho |
| [06:58:00] | Chutt: | nothing to do with it |
| [06:58:00] | Chutt: | try current svn, anyway |
| [06:59:00] | dev-: | no crap that particular line has nothing to do with it, thanks, i know, just saying i was looking from that point down. |
| [06:59:00] | dev-: | man obviously you're having a bad day, go take a nap or something sheesh. |
| [06:59:00] | Chutt: | since i spent something like 6 hours fixing more things today |
| [06:59:00] | Chutt: | and all i get is bitched at. |
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| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | dev, since 0.19, i've fixed a good 5 or 6 completely separate things that can cause it to hang on a program switch, not including the 2 new ones this evening |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | i've had _one_ person say 'thank you' |
| [07:02:00] | dev-: | seems to me that shows 1 person out of 15 track svn |
| [07:02:00] | dev-: | which is not unexpected.. |
| [07:02:00] | gremlin484: | How might I go about deleting my listing data, to re-download? |
| [07:02:00] | gremlin484: | My data is one channel off, up until march 3rd, but after that it's fine. |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | hardly :p |
| [07:02:00] | kormoc: | gremlin484, mythfilldatabase --refresh-all |
| [07:03:00] | gremlin484: | thanks! |
| [07:03:00] | kormoc: | your welcome. |
| [07:03:00] | Chutt: | for the remaining issues, i asked people to come on #mythtv to help debug. noone did. |
| [07:03:00] | dev-: | i havent seen you say that once, sorry. |
| [07:03:00] | Chutt: | people would rather accuse me of ignoring the issue |
| [07:03:00] | Chutt: | on the -dev list. |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | or continually reopening the wrong ticket. |
| [07:05:00] | Chutt: | with out even adding any new information |
| [07:05:00] | Chutt: | except 'me too! this is really important for me to fix!!!!!!' |
| [07:06:00] | dev-: | i search the ticket system for the common error i was seeing in my frontend logs, and 1 ticket returned, 1340, you complained at least twice i didnt give logs, so i attached them, and i dont think i said anything of that sort in that ticket |
| [07:07:00] | dev-: | i apologize that it was the wrong ticket. |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | there's no logs attached to the ticket except from the original poster |
| [07:07:00] | dev-: | bs, i attached mine. |
| [07:07:00] | dev-: | mythfrontend.playback.output.txt (48.0 kB) – added by anonymous on 02/23/06 06:36:29. |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | oh, sorry |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | 'anonymous' is a bit misleading |
| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | ah, so everyone can blame you when i say why trac's closed, then. |
| [07:08:00] | dev-: | i figured it would be, thats why i mentioned i attached it |
| [07:08:00] | dev-: | guess so. |
| [07:09:00] | dev-: | i guess i'll have to mention the ticket why it was closed over when blamed, and how it was just constantly closed as resolved. |
| [07:09:00] | dev-: | god what is the point in this lol |
| [07:09:00] | Chutt: | um |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | the ticket wasn't closed as resolved, it was closed as a duplicate |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | if _any_ ticket should be reopened, it should be the original one. |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | seriously, try current svn. |
| [07:12:00] | Chutt: | of course, i said that before |
| [07:12:00] | Chutt: | and you haven't, since there'd be more useful logging in that log :p |
| [07:13:00] | dev-: | i will, i'll find the svn client and check it out and compile it manually. blah. im so against going source on a package os because shit will get hosed. but one time, and for this, will be fine. no, just the patches incorporated by cardoe |
| [07:13:00] | dev-: | which dont go near the latest ones, but go up through 9013 |
| [07:13:00] | Chutt: | he better only be pulling from the fixes branch |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | actually 9092 |
| [07:14:00] | Chutt: | and none of this is in there |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I am |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | I've switched my local repo to release-0-19-fixes |
| [07:14:00] | Chutt: | people get confused by branch version numbers |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | svn diff -r8926 -r9092 |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | I'm using release 0.19 fixes |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | believe me |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | I know how to use SVN |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | oh, i believe you :p |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | i need to extract out the actual fixes parts of these changes |
| [07:16:00] | dev-: | i dont know how :) never used svn, know how to use cvs though and they're almost the same. :D |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | svn numbers each commit sequentially, regardless of what branch it's on |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | so '9092' exists on both trunk and the fixes branch |
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| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | dev, the 'Waited too long for RingBuffer pause' is different, btw, and is a different issue than the original one |
| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | it _should_ be fixed as of tonight |
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| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | but hey, what do i know, i just wrote the thing |
| [07:19:00] | dev-: | changes are in svn as of tonight? |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | trunk, not fixes |
| [07:19:00] | dev-: | right. |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | as of 9106 |
| [07:19:00] | dev-: | just in case you go to bed before i try it, thanks. |
| [07:20:00] | dev-: | i do appreciate what you do, and i dont think ive showed otherwise throughout this heh. |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | thank o_cee, he debugged things with me for hours and hours tonight. |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | 'add a verbose at line 234 of NVP.cpp and send me the new logs' |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | repeat over, and over, and over. |
| [07:22:00] | dev-: | lots of changes in 9106 |
| [07:22:00] | Chutt: | you can't just pull _that_ change |
| [07:22:00] | Chutt: | there's been quite a few checkins. |
| [07:22:00] | dev-: | no no i wont heh, i was just reading about it |
| [07:23:00] | Chutt: | it seems that other people thought they could just pull one of them and apply it to 0.19 :p |
| [07:23:00] | Chutt: | 9106 mostly only applies to streaming to a remote frontend that doesn't have access to the file on a shared drive |
| [07:24:00] | Chutt: | though some of it is general |
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| [07:44:00] | Chutt: | 9013, 9059, 9060, 9061, 9065, 9102, 9106 |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | there we go, time to merge all those into the fixes branch |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | and i guess 9104 and 9105 |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, is there any indication of what revision you're using in the --version output? |
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| [07:48:00] | Cardoe: | --version of what? |
| [07:48:00] | Chutt: | mythfrontend/mythbackend |
| [07:48:00] | Cardoe: | probably not. |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | Library API version: 0.19.20060121–2 |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | but that's not unique |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | I'm gonna rename the next ebuild to include rev # |
| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | cool, thanks |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | which will basically be "up to revision X" |
| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | makes keeping track of things a bit easier |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | I dunno why I didn't |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | that's what I've done in the past |
| [07:50:00] | Cardoe: | I had my Xbox on my mind |
| [07:50:00] | Cardoe: | it was all over my desk in pieces |
| [07:51:00] | dev-: | im 'working from home' tomorrow. more like 'staying up all night playing with my tv then sleeping in' |
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| [07:53:00] | Cardoe: | I had HW due |
| [07:53:00] | Cardoe: | god I'm so bad with this |
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| [07:55:00] | dev-: | thats one thing i dont miss about school |
| [07:55:00] | Chutt: | crap, one of these conflicts |
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| [07:59:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, the fixes branch (as of 9108) now includes all the live-tv fixes i've done |
| [08:00:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
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| [08:01:00] | dev-: | ahh, nice |
| [08:01:00] | Chutt: | actually, it'll be 9109 |
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| [08:01:00] | Chutt: | there's one line missing, though certainly not critical |
| [08:02:00] | rav3r: | anyone know anyting about snes9x? |
| [08:03:00] | Chutt: | there, 9109's good. |
| [08:05:00] | rav3r: | im running snes9x fs, and everything is fine until i hit enter to stop the demo and start playing, then it goes blank and i hear audio. any ideas? |
| [08:05:00] | dev-: | Chutt: if i install svn can i revert back to .19 stable? |
| [08:05:00] | Chutt: | if you install the fixes branch |
| [08:05:00] | rav3r: | wndowed, i can play fine, even stretching the window to fill the screen |
| [08:05:00] | Chutt: | i haven't been following the db changes the other devs have made |
| [08:06:00] | dev-: | ahh nice. |
| [08:06:00] | Chutt: | i do know that the db schema rev's been bumped a few times |
| [08:07:00] | Chutt: | (in trunk, not the fixes branch) |
| [08:07:00] | dev-: | cool i'll definitely go wit hthe fixes branch then |
| [08:08:00] | dev-: | glad these compiles still didnt finish ;) |
| [08:08:00] | Cardoe: | dev-: there will be an ebuild in 30 seconds |
| [08:08:00] | dev-: | oh sweet, that works |
| [08:08:00] | dev-: | though ive got svn all ready now! heh |
| [08:09:00] | dev-: | cool though. i was just jacking the config line out of the ebuild anyway heh |
| [08:10:00] | Chutt: | of course, the fixes branch doesn't have internal dvd menu support |
| [08:10:00] | dev-: | svn does? |
| [08:10:00] | Chutt: | yes |
| [08:10:00] | Chutt: | not 100%, of course, since it's still being worked on |
| [08:11:00] | dev-: | wow, sweet, how did you guys do that? i thought xine was the only thing that could work such magic, and i thought it was libdvdcss it did it with |
| [08:11:00] | Chutt: | libdvdnav does most of the work |
| [08:11:00] | dev-: | ah of course |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: now I remember why I did just -r1 |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | because my depends of mythtv-0.19 isn't met by doing |
| [08:11:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | mythtv-0.19_p9108 |
| [08:11:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | which is treated as patch 9108 |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | or I could do |
| [08:11:00] | Chutt: | 9109! |
| [08:11:00] | Chutt: | not 9108 |
| [08:12:00] | Cardoe: | mythtv-0.19.1_pre9108 |
| [08:12:00] | Chutt: | though, i guess it doesn't matter |
| [08:12:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt> Cardoe, the fixes branch (as of 9108) now includes all the live-tv fixes i've done |
| [08:12:00] | Chutt: | i know |
| [08:12:00] | Chutt: | <Chutt> actually, it'll be 9109 |
| [08:12:00] | Cardoe: | damnit |
| [08:12:00] | Chutt: | <Chutt> there's one line missing, though certainly not critical |
| [08:12:00] | Chutt: | it's a _very_ tiny race condition that 9109 fixes |
| [08:12:00] | Chutt: | i doubt it'd ever get triggered, but, who knows |
| [08:13:00] | Cardoe: | hmm |
| [08:13:00] | Cardoe: | now how do I wanna do the versioning schema |
| [08:13:00] | Chutt: | 0.19.1_pre9108 sounds reasonable |
| [08:14:00] | Chutt: | it's a hell of a lot more obvious than a lot of the other packagers use |
| [08:15:00] | ** Cardoe has to rethink depends ** | |
| [08:15:00] | Cardoe: | because right now all the plugins have "~mythtv-0.19" |
| [08:15:00] | Cardoe: | and ~ basically means match "mythtv-0.19" or "mythtv-0.19-r1" or "mythtv-0.19-r2" |
| [08:15:00] | Chutt: | the abi or api didn't change |
| [08:16:00] | Cardoe: | but not mythtv-0.19.1 |
| [08:16:00] | Cardoe: | I know |
| [08:16:00] | Chutt: | you can't do 'provides'? |
| [08:16:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [08:16:00] | Cardoe: | that's a good point |
| [08:16:00] | Chutt: | one of those changes really _should_ have bumped the abi |
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| [08:16:00] | Chutt: | but i didn't just to make the fixes branch easier :p |
| [08:17:00] | Cardoe: | I think I'll sleep on it |
| [08:17:00] | Cardoe: | I'm getting really tired |
| [08:17:00] | Chutt: | bah, it's only 3:20 am |
| [08:17:00] | Arkkis: | 10:17 am here =) |
| [08:17:00] | Cardoe: | yeah yeah |
| [08:18:00] | Cardoe: | I can't do it |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | 31133 www-data 21 0 394m 171m 4856 S 0.0 17.0 23:58.00 apache2 |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | 31166 www-data 20 0 192m 103m 4844 S 0.0 10.3 27:28.12 apache2 |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | trac sucks, sometimes. |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | though, that could be svn i suppose. |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | more likely trac, though |
| [08:20:00] | Cardoe: | you are using a dev version |
| [08:20:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [08:20:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but it's not appreciably different than 0.9 |
| [08:20:00] | Chutt: | except the arbitrary diff stuff |
| [08:22:00] | rav3r: | anyone know how to get zsnes on fedora core 4? |
| [08:22:00] | dev-: | test out the livetv stuff in about 15minutes |
| [08:22:00] | dev-: | gonna have to do it on the 4am mark i think heh |
| [08:23:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: what diff stuff |
| [08:23:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: and the annoying thing about the web based diff is if you hit unified diff |
| [08:23:00] | Cardoe: | it always creates DOS coded ones |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | in 0.10dev you can select arbitrary versions to get a diff for |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | not just consecutive |
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| [08:31:00] | Cardoe: | I always have these damn CD-RWs around |
| [08:31:00] | Cardoe: | except now when I need one |
| [08:35:00] | dev-: | might want to waste your time trying to use them even if you found them.. for some people they work great, but for alot of people they boot randomly. like 1 out of 6 tries |
| [08:35:00] | dev-: | its not worth the aggrevation of the extra 50cents useing a dvdr hehe |
| [08:35:00] | rav3r: | i know there has to be a package for fedora for znes, but i can't seem to find it |
| [08:35:00] | rav3r: | *zsnes |
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| [08:39:00] | Chutt: | bah, mailman partially broke |
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| [08:47:00] | dev-: | werd, 13minutes |
| [08:47:00] | dev-: | fingers crossed! :D |
| [08:47:00] | dev-: | i have faith though |
| [08:47:00] | dev-: | this craps fixed i know it |
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| [08:49:00] | Chutt: | suure you do |
| [08:49:00] | Chutt: | watch it not be fixed |
| [08:50:00] | dev-: | ;/ |
| [08:50:00] | dev-: | positive thinking! glass is half full! |
| [08:50:00] | dev-: | :D |
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| [09:00:00] | dev-: | any second now |
| [09:00:00] | dev-: | woah |
| [09:00:00] | dev-: | chutt, you got it dude |
| [09:00:00] | dev-: | perfect |
| [09:00:00] | dev-: | no hiccup or anything |
| [09:00:00] | dev-: | thank you very much for fixing this really annoying (i bet for both of us) problem |
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| [09:01:00] | Chutt: | it may occasionally pause on the switch |
| [09:02:00] | Chutt: | depends on how close you are to live, how fast your machine is, etc |
| [09:02:00] | rav3r: | snes is telling me "*** buffer overflow detected ***: /usr/emulators/snes/bin/zsnes terminated" |
| [09:02:00] | rav3r: | zsnes |
| [09:03:00] | dev-: | thats cool. this last switch it was close to livetv as possible, i was expecting a small pause as it switched files, but it didnt pause at all |
| [09:04:00] | dev-: | sweet, very sweet |
| [09:04:00] | dev-: | again, thanks, that sure did it |
| [09:04:00] | Chutt: | if you change channels right before it switches, you'll likely get a pause :p |
| [09:04:00] | Chutt: | and, there still could be other issues |
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| [09:04:00] | Chutt: | i _did_ fix 6 separate ones :p |
| [09:06:00] | dev-: | all of our tvs in the house are on myth, so if there's anything else i'll let ya know ;) after i get told there's a problem from the fiance heh. |
| [09:06:00] | dev-: | shes already a ball and chain and we arent even married yet |
| [09:06:00] | dev-: | blah blah fix the tv blah blah. wheres my wife beater. |
| [09:09:00] | laga: | /lastlog laga |
| [09:09:00] | laga: | oops. |
| [09:09:00] | laga: | Cardoe: nope, haven't tried 0.19-r1 yet. gonna emerge it now :) |
| [09:10:00] | dev-: | might need to upgrade patch, unless it was changed |
| [09:12:00] | dev-: | i had to unmask patch to get -r1 to patch cleanly. but there's probably going to be another ebuild tomorrow for the fixes chutt just put in |
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| [09:14:00] | laga: | it needs a new version of patch? now that's weird |
| [09:14:00] | dev-: | wouldnt patch cleanly without it |
| [09:15:00] | laga: | that's weird |
| [09:15:00] | laga: | well, maybe i'm just gonna ~x86 completely |
| [09:15:00] | dev-: | dangerous |
| [09:16:00] | laga: | *shrug* i have a backup :) |
| [09:20:00] | dev-: | off to bed, nite |
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| [09:23:00] | Cardoe: | laga: it's fixed |
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| [09:56:00] | daktak: | upgraded from 0.18 to 0.19, using dvico plus and light, the recording now comes out as a .mpg and the filename in the recorded table is wrong as it is .nuv, any ideas? |
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| [10:11:00] | daktak: | hmm, or does it take a long while for the file to be written out to xfs? |
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| [10:42:00] | Juski: | morning. only took an hour to go 11 miles coming into work today |
| [10:42:00] | laga: | nice :) |
| [10:42:00] | Juski: | the M60 carpark ;-) |
| [10:43:00] | laga: | you need a tank |
| [10:43:00] | Juski: | laga: morning btw.. you having fun with gentoo now? |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | Juski: yep. it's all working now. turned out that i had to share my recordings over nf instead of using the mythtv streaming stuff. |
| [10:49:00] | Juski: | laga: someone had that issue yesterday – changed my mind about the myth protocol being altogether better for remote frontends – must be to do with the extra caching NFS brings like someone else said :-) |
| [10:50:00] | Juski: | so erm.. your P3 frontend – what speed is it? |
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| [11:15:00] | jarango: | How do I set mythmusic to ALSA ? |
| [11:19:00] | Juski: | utils/settings > settings > media > music |
| [11:21:00] | Juski: | sorry... it's in utilities/setup > setup > media setup > music setup > general |
| [11:22:00] | Juski: | hardly rocket science ;-) |
| [11:26:00] | laga: | Juski: 450 mhz |
| [11:26:00] | Juski: | laga: wooo – nice work :-) |
| [11:27:00] | Juski: | so much for needing a pvr350 for mpeg2 playback then :-P |
| [11:27:00] | laga: | Juski: :) playback si very smooth, too. i have to tinker with it some more, i believe, but i'm getting fed up with watching the same damn southpark episode all the time |
| [11:28:00] | Juski: | heh |
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| [11:51:00] | jarango: | Is the album art visualizer in mythmusic broken ? I get a question mark instead of a picture |
| [11:52:00] | Juski: | jarango: AFAIK it looks for a picture in the directory of the currently playing mp3. i.e. you have artist/album/track_x.mp3 – it' |
| [11:53:00] | laga: | heh. darn keyboard, huh? :) |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | it'll look for a graphic in /artist/album |
| [11:53:00] | jarango: | Juski: So no tags ? |
| [11:53:00] | jarango: | Juski: That sucks |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | |
| [11:53:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:53:00] | Juski: | jarango: sucky or not that's how it is |
| [11:54:00] | laga: | RSI sucks, trust me ;) |
| [11:54:00] | Juski: | and jarango – it obviosuly doesn't suck enough for you to make it work how you want it to :-P |
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| [12:08:00] | Juski: | anyone taking MythTV to CeBIT this year? |
| [12:09:00] | laga: | bah, cebit is overrated ;) |
| [12:10:00] | laga: | i believe jarod was there last time or so |
| [12:12:00] | Juski: | we don't have much like it over here |
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| [12:27:00] | ** Juski laughs at all the replies to the 0.19 announcement on slashdot ** | |
| [12:29:00] | stuarta: | good, bad, or indifferent? |
| [12:29:00] | laga: | 'insightful' |
| [12:30:00] | ** stuarta goes off to read slashdot ** | |
| [12:31:00] | ** laga dito ** | |
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| [12:34:00] | ** laga closes slashdot and takes a deep breath ** | |
| [12:34:00] | ** stuarta bangs head against the wall... ** | |
| [12:35:00] | Juski: | stuarta: bad, bad bad bad slashdotters |
| [12:35:00] | Juski: | bah.. there's no fscking windows mythtv yet... |
| [12:35:00] | Juski: | bah.. no dvd changer support yet.. wah! |
| [12:35:00] | stuarta: | thank f!"£$%^ |
| [12:35:00] | Juski: | mostly negative stuff & peeps asking for help getting systems working (!!) |
| [12:36:00] | stuarta: | I reckon monkeys wrote those reviews... |
| [12:36:00] | Juski: | still – didn't read a single thing about how great MCE is... |
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| [12:36:00] | stuarta: | thankfully, I haven't tried it. |
| [12:37:00] | ** Juski slaps the user who asked "Is it possible to run a backend mythtv computer and have someone who runs Windows using WinMyth use my mythtv server as their backend?" ** | |
| [12:37:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [12:37:00] | Juski: | gonna delete that thread... tempted |
| [12:37:00] | stuarta: | now where did I put my cluebat... |
| [12:37:00] | stuarta: | I don't subscribe to -users for a reason.. |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | new sticky... warning.. pointless, stupid threads will be deleted without warning :-D |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | another classic |
| [12:38:00] | stuarta: | a no warning in a warning :) |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | "hey, I've got a cable box.. if I get a dual tuner card can I record 2 cable channels at the same time?" |
| [12:39:00] | stuarta: | If i get a second brain can I think twice as fast? |
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| [12:39:00] | Juski: | a second one? ;-) |
| [12:39:00] | stuarta: | first one is pickled... |
| [12:39:00] | ** laga kicks gentoo ** | |
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| [12:39:00] | laga: | stupid init. |
| [12:40:00] | ** Juski takes a break from moderating ** | |
| [12:40:00] | stuarta: | out of interest, where/what do you moderate? |
| [12:40:00] | Juski: | mythtvtalk.com |
| [12:41:00] | Juski: | went there just over a year ago for some tips in getting mythtv 0.16 working. laga was really rude, so I stuck around |
| [12:42:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [12:42:00] | laga: | shut it. ;) |
| [12:42:00] | mythmonkey: | hello everyone |
| [12:42:00] | Juski: | laga: tis okay – I know exactly how you felt then, believe me |
| [12:43:00] | laga: | Juski: uhehe ;) |
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| [12:44:00] | Juski: | never got to the bottom of how I managed to install mythtv 0.15, upgrade it to 0.16 and still be left with the 0.15 DB... but anyway |
| [12:45:00] | Juski: | oh wait.. |
| [12:45:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [12:45:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [12:52:00] | mythmonkey: | is it better to ask questions on an evening when people aren't at work??? |
| [12:52:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [12:53:00] | Juski: | it's better just to ask good, well formed questions any time you like ;-) |
| [12:53:00] | mythmonkey: | lol, well i tried that on mythtv talk forum Juski, so I guess i am not as well formed as I though ;-) |
| [12:54:00] | mythmonkey: | thought* |
| [12:54:00] | Juski: | what was the question? |
| [12:54:00] | mythmonkey: | it was about sound on 0.19 (yeah, i know!) but i don't have the same hardware as most other people reporting the issue |
| [12:55:00] | mythmonkey: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2512 |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | ugh. framegrabber |
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| [12:57:00] | Juski: | have you tried plugging amp / speakers / headphones into the audio output of the tuner card while mythtv is in live tv mode? |
| [12:57:00] | mythmonkey: | nope, i will go try that now. thanks Juski |
| [12:57:00] | Juski: | probably a capture volume problem you know |
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| [13:00:00] | mythmonkey: | just tried that Juski, still no sound. Yes, I totally agree, because everything seems to indicate that. TVTime works just fine, but even when I try to unmute and increase the volume on the card when not using Myth/TVTime I still can't hear the sound from the TV Card. Do I _need_ to create an asoundrc file for everything to work? |
| [13:02:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [13:02:00] | Juski: | no sound, even when you connect the audio cable directly to the tuner? |
| [13:02:00] | Juski: | that smacks of a tuning/driver issue |
| [13:04:00] | mythmonkey: | I connect the tv card audio out to the line in on the sound card. TVTime then gives me sound fine. When I try myth and Watch TV or recordings, no sound. The sound is fine in Music/Videos. I don't have AC3 to SPDIF checked, and I've tried everything in the settings. Rexima and Alsamixer both report the line in is being captured. |
| [13:04:00] | Jasper: | feel the love generation |
| [13:04:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:04:00] | mythmonkey: | even with the speaker cables connected to the audio out of the TV card there is no sound in MythTV |
| [13:04:00] | mythmonkey: | will just go check with TV time |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | interesting |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:05:00] | mythmonkey: | yep, speaker cable connected to audio out on TV card, and TV Time has sound |
| [13:06:00] | Juski: | hmmmm |
| [13:07:00] | mythmonkey: | lol thats what i've been doing since monday. whole install was so damn smooth, but this is a PITA! i even tried swapping the card with a SB Live, and the same problem |
| [13:07:00] | Jasper: | christ |
| [13:07:00] | Jasper: | male cheerleaders...omg |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | hey Jasper I don't wanna know what you like to watch behind closed doors ;-) |
| [13:08:00] | Jasper: | hehe Juski |
| [13:08:00] | Jasper: | it's on mtv... |
| [13:08:00] | Jasper: | a guy with boobs....gah |
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| [13:10:00] | Juski: | eh? he drank too much beer & didn't exercise? sad |
| [13:10:00] | scopeuk: | mythmonkey do you have sound at all or is it just in myth |
| [13:10:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey – swapping your soundcard to a more lame one won't help either ;-) |
| [13:10:00] | Jasper: | never blame beer! |
| [13:10:00] | mythmonkey: | LOL @ juski |
| [13:10:00] | Jasper: | 8) |
| [13:11:00] | scopeuk: | were a serious bunch arnt we :D |
| [13:11:00] | mythmonkey: | scopeuk, yes sound works fine everywhere, including videos, dvds and music in myth |
| [13:11:00] | scopeuk: | argh ok |
| [13:11:00] | Juski: | put it this way mythmonkey... in mythtv, even a direct audio connection to the tuner's audio out doesn't work |
| [13:11:00] | Juski: | so – it's a tuner setup / tuning / driver problem |
| [13:11:00] | scopeuk: | just cheacking i installed fedora and the aincient sb in the box dident function at all |
| [13:11:00] | mythmonkey: | thats right juski |
| [13:12:00] | Juski: | you can probably rule out a driver issue since tvtime works |
| [13:12:00] | Jasper: | Juski I decided to update to the newest driver.. |
| [13:12:00] | mythmonkey: | yep tv time works fine. picture is fine as well in MythTV (well as fine as the picture gets in my valley ;-) |
| [13:12:00] | Jasper: | for nvidia...see if they fixed anything in that |
| [13:12:00] | Juski: | some framegrabber cards can have their audio output muted by the driver – that might have a bearing on it |
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| [13:13:00] | mythmonkey: | right Juski. So maybe if I updated to a newer kernel it might be resolved. I am thinking it has to be a tv card issue not a sound card issue |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey – I dunno |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | it's definitely a TV tuner issue not a soundcard issue |
| [13:13:00] | mythmonkey: | worth a try i think, i have tried _everything_ else |
| [13:14:00] | mythmonkey: | all the same hardware worked fine in slack 9.1 with that default 2.6 kernel, can't remember the minor version |
| [13:14:00] | Juski: | so you've tried deleting & re-adding your tuner card? checked you've got it set to all the right things? |
| [13:15:00] | Juski: | if it works fine in tvtime now, it's not a driver issue |
| [13:15:00] | Juski: | actually, in a lot of cases the live tv audio will come out of the tuner's audio output whether you're running a TV viewing program or not |
| [13:16:00] | mythmonkey: | right. so delete the card from where? myth? or rmmod and modprobe again? slack just finds the card with no fuss, so i don't know about any special modprobe commands |
| [13:16:00] | Juski: | stop mythbackend. run mythtv-setup, delete the card & re-add it. start mythbackend again |
| [13:17:00] | Juski: | do you get tv audio out from the audio output of the tuner card all the time when myth isn't running? |
| [13:17:00] | Juski: | you should do I think |
| [13:17:00] | Juski: | say if you run tvtime then quit it |
| [13:18:00] | mythmonkey: | nope Juski. Only when TVTime is on do I get sound out. I hear sound, quit TVTime, no sound. Start TVTime again, and sound is there, I don't have to adjust the volume. |
| [13:18:00] | Juski: | you can then start up mythfrontend to see if it's causing the audio to stop working |
| [13:18:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey I mean when you connect the speakers directly to the card |
| [13:18:00] | mythmonkey: | I will go try now Juski |
| [13:19:00] | Juski: | if that's the case then your tv card has a register to mute it, and tvtime is unmuting it, but mythtv isn't |
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| [13:24:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [13:24:00] | mythmonkey: | OK, tried deleting capture card and adding again, no difference. Started TV time with audio out plugged into speakers, sound was fine. Quit TVTime, sounds goes off. Start TVTime and volume back on. Juski, I think you are spot on there. TVTime is unmuting the tv card, mythtv isn't |
| [13:24:00] | Jasper: | JUST DO IT! |
| [13:24:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:25:00] | Jasper: | do they broadcast "made" in the uk? |
| [13:26:00] | mythmonkey: | hmm, I wonder if I can turn off the muting from the TVTime config then... brb |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | ohhh shit I've got 194GB of recordings to watch now |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | or delete. whatever |
| [13:27:00] | Juski: | Jasper: wtf is 'made'? |
| [13:27:00] | Jasper: | made on mtv |
| [13:27:00] | Juski: | if it's on MTV UK, god knows. their schedule varies wildly – never got anything to record on time from that channel yet.. |
| [13:28:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [13:28:00] | Jasper: | they make a obese fag into a soccer player.. |
| [13:28:00] | Jasper: | that |
| [13:28:00] | Jasper: | that's the guy I was talking about on tv |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | I used to like watching MTV til mobile phone ringtones caught on |
| [13:29:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [13:29:00] | Jasper: | I don't know why they call it music television anymore... |
| [13:29:00] | Juski: | ringtone ads are the reason I don't have throwable items in my livingroom |
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| [13:29:00] | Jasper: | 8) |
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| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | christ |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | 295 |
| [13:30:00] | mythmonkey: | nope, i tried switching off the audio boost from tvtime, but that didn't work |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | he weighs 295 |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | !! |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | LOL |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | 40% bodyfat |
| [13:31:00] | Jasper: | american's |
| [13:31:00] | stuarta: | there's a movie out soon called 'feed' |
| [13:31:00] | Jasper: | there is? |
| [13:31:00] | Jasper: | what's it about? |
| [13:31:00] | stuarta: | about the people who like to feed ppl up to that sort of weight |
| [13:31:00] | stuarta: | and think it's sexy. |
| [13:31:00] | Jasper: | yeah, those people are pigs, saw a documentary on discovery...they're called feeders |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | blech. |
| [13:32:00] | stuarta: | not pretty. |
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| [13:33:00] | mythmonkey: | tried setting the "Mute" volume in TVTime config to the same as the unmute volume, but it keeps being overwritten, and it didn't leave the volume on when tv time goes off either |
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| [13:33:00] | scopeuk: | mythmonkey think what hes thinking is that your card is muted by defualt and myh isent de muting it |
| [13:34:00] | stuarta: | something like alsa isn't muting it is it? |
| [13:35:00] | Dibblah: | Anyone here tried to get the MCE_USB2's blaster working? |
| [13:35:00] | mythmonkey: | scopeuk, thats it to me. I was thinking along those lines myself, I never even thought of plugging in the speaker cable to audio out on the tv card (kudos to Juski, just what I came here for). However, how to fix it is another thing! |
| [13:36:00] | mythmonkey: | stuarta, I am not sure how alsa can mute the tv card??? |
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| [13:37:00] | stuarta: | it mutes the sound card input's |
| [13:38:00] | mythmonkey: | stuarta, we have tried bypassing the sound card altogether. Just using the tv card's audio out, tvtime works fine, mythtv still has no sound |
| [13:39:00] | Jasper: | christ |
| [13:39:00] | Jasper: | I should really record this and put it online |
| [13:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: What ? |
| [13:40:00] | Beirdo: | mythmonkey, how do you expect myth to capture audio if you aren't using the sound card? |
| [13:40:00] | Beirdo: | through magic? |
| [13:40:00] | Jasper: | GreyFoxx, a 295 gay kid who wants to become a soccer player ...he's like 20 |
| [13:40:00] | Jasper: | and starts crying like a girl.. |
| [13:41:00] | ** stuarta wonders what is up with bugs.debian.org ** | |
| [13:41:00] | Jasper: | the only advantage he has...he has always like 20 girls around him |
| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: IC :) |
| [13:41:00] | mythmonkey: | Beirdo, read up, you will see what we are trying to accomplish. If the TVCard audio out doesn't get any sound, how on earth do you think mythtv can capture it? |
| [13:41:00] | Beirdo: | did you plugin headphones? |
| [13:42:00] | laga: | Jasper: i'm not sure who is more 'gay' here. the guy who's getting fscked up by MTV, the mtv producers who create this crap or you who's watching it |
| [13:43:00] | mythmonkey: | Beirod, read up and look at the history of this, we know the problem now, its not the sound card |
| [13:43:00] | Jasper: | hmm good point laga |
| [13:43:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [13:43:00] | stuarta: | just the concept makes me cringe. |
| [13:43:00] | Beirdo: | have fun then |
| [13:46:00] | Jasper: | but you gotta do something while mythtv compiles :P |
| [13:46:00] | mythmonkey: | Juski, do you think this is an issue with MythTV then??? Should I email to the developers list? |
| [13:48:00] | Jasper: | this is lame...mtv just went off the air 8( |
| [13:48:00] | stuarta: | justice... |
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| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, if only I had a clue what the people in this music video were saying |
| [13:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx needs to learn a couple more verbal languages ** | |
| [13:49:00] | Jasper: | GreyFoxx primary language? |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | English |
| [13:49:00] | Jasper: | which music videos are you talking about then? |
| [13:49:00] | Jasper: | almost everything is english? |
| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, other than a couple words none of it is english :) |
| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | The opposites – Slaap |
| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Streaming clips from TMP |
| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | err TMF |
| [13:50:00] | Jasper: | can you receive TMF? |
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| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have the internet :) |
| [13:50:00] | Jasper: | why on earth would you wanna watch TMF? |
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| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Because I like to expose myself to new and different things ? |
| [13:51:00] | Jasper: | it's a lame ass shit station |
| [13:51:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:51:00] | Jasper: | like commercials every 5 mins |
| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not on the webstream that I've seen so far :) |
| [13:51:00] | Jasper: | so GreyFoxx you're watching u2 now? |
| [13:51:00] | Jasper: | on tmf? |
| [13:51:00] | praet: | i hate commercials.. |
| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, not U2 |
| [13:51:00] | Jasper: | huh? |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey: if I were you I'd email the users list – detail everything you've tried & mention that in tvtime you get audio from the tuner card directly but in myth you don't |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper: | you're watching the dutch TMF? |
| [13:52:00] | praet: | id rather record, then eat a sandwich, then go back |
| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | "Web Stream" from tmf.nl |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper: | welll |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper: | then they laggg behind |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:52:00] | praet: | hey anyone know how to get external change script to work? |
| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't seen a commerical yet, which is weird |
| [13:52:00] | Jasper: | they just finished broadcasting u2 -origin of the species |
| [13:52:00] | praet: | new stuff or something? |
| [13:53:00] | mythmonkey: | OK, Juski. I have emailed the users list, but not with the latest but of testing we did. I will endeavour to post to my original thread :) |
| [13:53:00] | Juski: | don't forget to edit the mythtvtalk forum thread when it's solved ;-) |
| [13:54:00] | Juski: | praet: just put the path to your external channel change command in mythtv-setup – easy peasy |
| [13:54:00] | Juski: | e.g. /usr/bin/dbox2zap.sh |
| [13:55:00] | Jasper: | so you wanna learn dutch GreyFoxx ? |
| [13:55:00] | mythmonkey: | Juski, will do. I hate it when people never reply to resolved issues on forums! :-( I will also write up a full HOWTO once I have this dam sound card issue resolved! |
| [13:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah. Would have been handy last time I was in Belgium and Amsterdaam |
| [13:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Plus I have several friends over there |
| [13:56:00] | Jasper: | I hear it's a difficult language to learn |
| [13:56:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [13:57:00] | praet: | Juski: ive got /usr/local/bin/change_chan.sh (which works from term) |
| [13:57:00] | praet: | in setup, same path, set initial chan to 3 |
| [13:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: heh it would take me a while, especially without anyone here to speak it too :) |
| [13:57:00] | praet: | but in livetv no worky |
| [13:57:00] | praet: | GreyFoxx: whats that stream url? |
| [13:58:00] | Juski: | praet: does it work when you run it as the user mythbackend is running as? |
| [13:58:00] | Beirdo: | praet, in the script, it might be a good idea to make sure anything you call will be on the path when run from myth |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.tmf.nl, click Music at the top, and click on one of the listed videos |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will start a stream at that point |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | So far it's just a stream of videos, so I don't think it |
| [13:58:00] | Jasper: | GreyFoxx er zijn genoeg nederlandse chatkanalen op irc geloof ik |
| [13:58:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | 's a stream of the actual broadcast |
| [13:58:00] | praet: | Juski: yes both root and mythtv user works ok the chown is root:root tho |
| [13:59:00] | Beirdo: | i.e. if stuff is in /usr/local/bin, either put (assuming bash) PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} ; export PATH |
| [13:59:00] | Beirdo: | or put the full path to the binary when called (inside the script) |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: Sure there are plenty of Dutch on IRC, and I would need to pratice it verbally |
| [13:59:00] | praet: | would that make a difference if it works from the terminal? |
| [13:59:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [13:59:00] | Beirdo: | it's often a problem when running scripts from cron, and the same CAN be true when running from elsewhere |
| [13:59:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anders zou ik het niet zeer goed leren |
| [14:00:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:00:00] | Beirdo: | your terminal may have a different path than the backend |
| [14:00:00] | praet: | oh i see |
| [14:00:00] | Jasper: | what language do you learn in the UK at school? |
| [14:00:00] | Juski: | I had to edit my changer script to use the full pathname of a config file it reads in a few places ;-) |
| [14:00:00] | Beirdo: | no harm in using overkill in the script :) |
| [14:00:00] | Juski: | Jasper: they don't learn English anymore, that's for sure ;-) |
| [14:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | to be sure, you can put: echo ${PATH} > /tmp/blah |
| [14:01:00] | Jasper: | how do oyu mean Juski ? |
| [14:01:00] | Juski: | iz it bcuz I is not litty-rit? |
| [14:01:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | into your script, then try to use it from the backend |
| [14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Here in Canada we learn English obviously, anda bastardization of French |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | and compare to the path in your terminal |
| [14:01:00] | Juski: | Jasper: u shud c how kidz talk 2 eech othr on the net |
| [14:01:00] | Jasper: | yeah that's true.. |
| [14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I HATE that. It makes someone look like a immature fool |
| [14:02:00] | Jasper: | I need to come over to the UK soon...gonna try to find me a e-type for renovation |
| [14:02:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:02:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx, most of the people who talk that way ARE immature fools :) |
| [14:02:00] | Juski: | it's like nobody knows the right context for 'their' 'there' and 'they're' anymore – and rogue apostrophe's (sic) are rife |
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| [14:02:00] | Merlin83b: | Idiots. Everywhere. |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | makes me laugh when you see white kids talking as if they were brought up in 'the hood' |
| [14:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hahahah yeah |
| [14:03:00] | mythmonkey: | the "no belt" thing is the best... we don't even have death row in the UK lol |
| [14:03:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure there are a finite number of them that were |
| [14:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pull yer damn pants up you disrespectful buggers. I don't wanna see your drawers |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | which brings us back to MTV in a roundabout way ;-) |
| [14:03:00] | laga: | fo sheezy |
| [14:03:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | I blame RnB |
| [14:04:00] | praet: | Beirdo: brilliant, the paths were different |
| [14:04:00] | Merlin83b: | I blame the parents :-) |
| [14:04:00] | Beirdo: | I blame idiocy |
| [14:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Idiot parents. |
| [14:04:00] | Beirdo: | praet, cool, that's my usual first suspect. :) |
| [14:04:00] | Jasper: | they should all go to bootcamp |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | RnB is the root of all evil. |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | I blame the parents, law makers & do-gooders, and tabloid media |
| [14:04:00] | bjohnson: | c u n t (see you next time) |
| [14:04:00] | Jasper: | they broadcast this funny bootcamp television of uk teenagers.. |
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| [14:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh dear, Jasper appears to like Reality TV. |
| [14:04:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:05:00] | Jasper: | nah it's more like a documentary |
| [14:05:00] | Beirdo: | screw reality, it's just fun to watch the stupidity sometimes |
| [14:05:00] | Jasper: | they send em over to texas...to get their affairs in order |
| [14:05:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:05:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [14:05:00] | Beirdo: | send em to Phoenix, AZ |
| [14:05:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [14:05:00] | Jasper: | is that so? |
| [14:05:00] | Beirdo: | the work camp jails... |
| [14:05:00] | Jasper: | hehe |
| [14:06:00] | Jasper: | they have enough jails in the whole of the usa |
| [14:06:00] | Jasper: | it's loonatic |
| [14:06:00] | Beirdo: | well, that county has effective ones |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | talked to a woman @ work yesterday who used to work in a shop.. a kid came in, held a knife to her throat & tried to rob the till. She fended him off by picking up a big stick & threatening to use it. She got hauled up to the Police station – kid's mother went over to her & threatened to 'do 'er' for threatening her kiddie. "but he held a knife to my throat", says the woman. Kid's mother said.. "but it was only a pocket |
| [14:06:00] | Merlin83b: | ... |
| [14:06:00] | Merlin83b: | "but it was only a pocket... |
| [14:07:00] | Juski: | knife |
| [14:07:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, the law has gone mad on things like that. |
| [14:07:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.mcso.org/ |
| [14:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:07:00] | Jasper: | I was flying in florida, and I could navigate by just following the jails... |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: That's insane |
| [14:07:00] | Juski: | other than overthrowing governments how can we stop the tide of political correctness? |
| [14:07:00] | Juski: | kids run amok cos they know nothing can happen to them |
| [14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Get rid of democracy. Cause franky we all know that most people are not very bright |
| [14:08:00] | Juski: | </high horse> |
| [14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | and shouldn't get a say in how things are run :) |
| [14:08:00] | Jasper: | we had a case like that here in the netherlands juski.....2 guys threatening the people behind the tills at a local supermarket....they fled without anything so 2 employes went behind them and beat them up till the police got there...they both had to pay a high fine |
| [14:08:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: you're probably right. give people a choice & they'll choose wrongly |
| [14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: yup |
| [14:09:00] | Jasper: | so the husband of the queen here decided to pay the fine :) |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | Jasper: wicked! |
| [14:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nice! |
| [14:09:00] | mythmonkey: | LOL @ GreyFoxx: Democracy is great in theory... |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | at lease SOMEONE has sense |
| [14:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Thats awesome |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | mythmonkey, so is communism... in theory... |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | so is marxism.. in theory |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't really work either |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | people are too greedy to let communism work |
| [14:10:00] | mythmonkey: | yeah. As always, the polar ends of theory don't work so well in practice. |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | bah. kill all the humans. that'll sort it out |
| [14:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth democracy in a moneyless society maybe. |
| [14:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Yeah, money is a huge part of the ruin of all systems |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | oh wait.. one flaw in my plan.. when the humans are all gone there'll still be politicians |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | true democracy will never get anything done as the people would have to vote on everything |
| [14:11:00] | Beirdo: | politicians aren't people, they are pond scum |
| [14:11:00] | Jasper: | I don't know how good your dutch is GreyFoxx but maybe you can read this: |
| [14:11:00] | Jasper: | Hun actie deed veel stof opwaaien en dat viel bij de prins helemaal verkeerd. Bernhard was woedend dat het tweetal uiteindelijk werd vervolgd. Hij had juist begrip voor het gebruikte geweld, waardoor de overvaller een gebroken neus opliep. De prins betaalde zelfs de boete die een van de verdachten door de rechter kreeg opgelegd. |
| [14:11:00] | Beirdo: | well, that's Dutch alright |
| [14:11:00] | Beirdo: | it's all Greek to me |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | I understood '.' and ',' |
| [14:12:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [14:12:00] | Beirdo: | it's recognizably Dutch though |
| [14:12:00] | Jasper: | why is that? |
| [14:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper heh Cool. Broke the guys nose. The Prince did the right thing by getting upset about it and paying the fine |
| [14:12:00] | Beirdo: | nothing else looks quite like it |
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| [14:13:00] | laga: | wow, i understood more when the swedish guys were talking.. |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | bork bork bork |
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| [14:13:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | and Dutch is so close to German in some ways, laga :) |
| [14:13:00] | Jasper: | it aint that difficult.. |
| [14:13:00] | Jasper: | omg.. |
| [14:13:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i know. that's what scares me ;) |
| [14:13:00] | Jasper: | laga did you see the link I posted a few days ago ? |
| [14:14:00] | Jasper: | with the movie? |
| [14:14:00] | laga: | Jasper: probably not |
| [14:14:00] | Jasper: | hehe, I'll look it up for you |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | it'll be in saturday's log |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | when we were talking about the mini doing the lillehammer ski-jump |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | I like the Dutch people I've met, but damn, I can't understand the language |
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| [14:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [14:15:00] | Jasper: | laga: http://www.flabber.nl/archief/015126.php |
| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | I'll take some triple-salt licorice though... and I like tulips :) |
| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | being Canadian has its advantages, especially while living in Ottawa. The tulip festival rules |
| [14:15:00] | Jasper: | it's so funny |
| [14:16:00] | laga: | Jasper: sorry, don't have time to watch it right now |
| [14:16:00] | Jasper: | uberlebensradar! |
| [14:16:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [14:16:00] | praet: | thx Beirdo, pixing the path worked |
| [14:16:00] | praet: | *fixing |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | great :) |
| [14:17:00] | praet: | ive got the pvr-150 biult in ir transmitter to control my DCT200 stb |
| [14:17:00] | praet: | dct2000 rather |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | am I right in remembering Highpoint RAID controllers are rubbish and are to be avoided? |
| [14:18:00] | Beirdo: | that's my recollection of the matter, Juski |
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| [14:19:00] | Juski: | shame. seen some affordable ones at last |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | maybe they've improved over time |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | wouldn't count on it |
| [14:20:00] | Jasper: | oh laga don't take the commercial personal if you see it :P |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | what, it picks on Germans? |
| [14:21:00] | ** laga launches some nazi saucers ** | |
| [14:21:00] | mythmonkey: | are there any UK tv cards which do freeview and have a dedicated onboard MPEG encoder?? |
| [14:22:00] | laga: | heh. there is this sect who still believe in nazi saucers. they're funny ;) |
| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | there are stupid people everywhere, laga |
| [14:24:00] | laga: | Beirdo: yep |
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| [14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth isn't freeview a DVB broadcast ? |
| [14:24:00] | mythmonkey: | i *think* so |
| [14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then it's already broadcast in mpeg |
| [14:25:00] | stuarta: | yes it is |
| [14:25:00] | Jasper: | haha |
| [14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | you just need something to capture it |
| [14:25:00] | Jasper: | http://www.centraalbeheer.nl/cbi/cb/corporate . . . Target=_self |
| [14:25:00] | stuarta: | mythmonkey: just buy a dvb card ~£40 |
| [14:27:00] | mythmonkey: | As I understood, you can get card with dedicated onboard decoders which help take the load off the CPU, like the PVR-250 (I think?), but I wasn't sure whether there was one that did freeview also. Its a long time since I looked though, I got a regular TV card for £20 in the bargain bin. |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth the 250 is an encoder for taking the raw signal and turning it into a mpeg stream. Freeview is already broadcast as an mpeg2 stream and you just need to be able to grab it |
| [14:29:00] | stuarta: | you only need to decode it when you want to display it |
| [14:29:00] | ille: | only PVR-350 ha a mpeg2 decoder, the other PVR has encoders |
| [14:29:00] | mythmonkey: | ah right GreyFoxx, I see |
| [14:30:00] | ille: | see which DVB-T cards people use here http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=WhatCardYouUse |
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| [14:32:00] | Jasper: | haha so funny, check out: http://www.centraalbeheer.nl/cbi/cb/corporate . . . ;linkTarget= |
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| [14:32:00] | clint30: | I have a USB-DVD at /dev/sr0 but I cannot work out how I map it . I tried ln -sf /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom but that doesn't seem to work |
| [14:39:00] | Jasper: | hahaha |
| [14:39:00] | Jasper: | omg compiling takes sooo long |
| [14:39:00] | Jasper: | :O |
| [14:41:00] | stuarta: | jasper needs more horsepower... |
| [14:41:00] | butabi: | same thing here, but youre providing me with some time killers here, i have to admit :) |
| [14:44:00] | ** laga fiddles with initng to make his myth box boot really fast ** | |
| [14:45:00] | johnp_: | jasper, thanks for the pointer the other night. |
| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | what pointer johnp_ ? |
| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | stuarta what do you mean..compiling mythtv only takes 150 minutes at the moment |
| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:47:00] | johnp_: | jasper, dvd media player, helps if I compile in the plugin :) |
| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | ah yes |
| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:48:00] | Jasper: | take a look at this commercial; http://www.crapville.com/uploads_videos/clintonvoodoo1.wmv |
| [14:50:00] | Jasper: | sometimes you don't wanna skip them :P |
| [14:52:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey: you don't mpeg2 decoders on CPUs of >600Mhz if you have recent-ish nvidia graphics |
| [14:53:00] | Juski: | or if you were asking about freeview cards which also encode analogue inputs to MPEG2 – there are a couple – Hauppauge HVR1300 being one of them but not yet fully working in Linux |
| [14:53:00] | jams: | laga, with each new release initng gets slower and slower |
| [14:53:00] | mythmonkey: | ah right Juski, I am just in that bracket. My system consists of donated parts, but I am over that. Someone may be paying me to build them a mythtv system, so I am just thinking ahead. |
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| [14:54:00] | mythmonkey: | I think the NOVA-T would be the best option at the moment |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | the HVR1300 isn't a dual-tuner model, so it'll prolly be as much use as a chocolate fireguard |
| [14:54:00] | Stephmw: | Juski, it's semi-dual tuner ;) one analogue, one digital |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | yes but you can't use both at the same time AFAIK |
| [14:55:00] | Stephmw: | you mean PIP? I haven't been able to try, none of the software I can find does PIP on windows |
| [14:55:00] | Juski: | .. which'd put in in the next-to useless category |
| [14:55:00] | Juski: | no I don't mean PiP. I mean recording 2 things at the same time |
| [14:55:00] | Stephmw: | hmmm, I'll have to try it when I get home tonight |
| [14:56:00] | Stephmw: | but yeah, probably not |
| [14:56:00] | Jasper: | omg |
| [14:56:00] | Juski: | good news is there's gonna be a linux driver eventually for both sides. the DVB driver works |
| [14:56:00] | Jasper: | myth just finished compiling...sweet |
| [14:56:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:58:00] | scopeuk: | how many days it been going jasper :P |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | only 2.5 hours |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | and it still DOESN'T WORK! |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | OOMGGGGGGGGG |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | I think I'm gonna be throwing with my computer soon |
| [14:59:00] | scopeuk: | lol |
| [14:59:00] | scopeuk: | heh that soudns familier |
| [14:59:00] | scopeuk: | ive tried 3 diferent distros and two diferent systems and still o look |
| [14:59:00] | mythmonkey: | Jasper, what distro are you using? |
| [15:00:00] | Jasper: | gentoo |
| [15:00:00] | Jasper: | NVP: Time out waiting for free video buffers |
| [15:00:00] | Jasper: | gah |
| [15:00:00] | mythmonkey: | ah, well not like gentoo isn't meant to be compiled on ;-) |
| [15:01:00] | mythmonkey: | I swear by Slackware myself |
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| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | this is so annoying |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | everything works...except for the xvmc :O |
| [15:03:00] | clint30: | Has anyone got a USB DVD to work properly |
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| [15:09:00] | laga: | hehe, funny. DISPLAY=:0 mythfrontend works, but mythfrontend -display=:0 segfaults :) |
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| [15:11:00] | Jasper: | can anyone take a look at this log : http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/mythfrontend.data2 |
| [15:13:00] | Juski: | USB stinks IMHO, clint30. worst thing to happen to PCs since ISA PnP |
| [15:15:00] | Juski: | Jasper: do xdpyinfo & pastebin that |
| [15:17:00] | Jasper: | k |
| [15:17:00] | clint30: | well i had it kinda working before but now i have deleted /dev/scd0 and got real confused |
| [15:17:00] | clint30: | how do i recreate scd0 |
| [15:18:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/xdpyinfo.data |
| [15:19:00] | Juski: | Jasper: well you got xvmc okay |
| [15:20:00] | Juski: | and Xv |
| [15:20:00] | clint30: | ./MAKEDEV -v scd |
| [15:20:00] | clint30: | i guess |
| [15:21:00] | Jasper: | yeah Juski so I don't know what I can do anymore :P |
| [15:21:00] | Jasper: | have been trying for a week now.. |
| [15:21:00] | mythmonkey: | Jasper, what version of the Nvidia drivers are you using? |
| [15:22:00] | Jasper: | the newest |
| [15:22:00] | Jasper: | but I've tried all of them at this point.. |
| [15:22:00] | mythmonkey: | I seem to remember there was something about xvmc and the newer versions of the nvidia drivers... |
| [15:22:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [15:23:00] | mythmonkey: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Nvidia |
| [15:23:00] | Juski: | mythmonkey that's the opengl vsync issue |
| [15:23:00] | mythmonkey: | oh right |
| [15:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Woop Segfaults! |
| [15:23:00] | Juski: | Jasper: what video mode are you running in? 8 bit colour? |
| [15:24:00] | Jasper: | no? |
| [15:24:00] | Jasper: | 24 I guess? |
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| [15:24:00] | Jasper: | right? |
| [15:24:00] | Juski: | dunno I was asking you |
| [15:24:00] | Jasper: | in xorg.conf |
| [15:24:00] | laga: | nvidia 7676 works fine for me |
| [15:24:00] | Juski: | you don't have renderaccel turned in in xorg.conf either do you? |
| [15:24:00] | Jasper: | I have DefaulthDepth 24 |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | Default even |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | hmm dunno Juski |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | how do I see that? |
| [15:25:00] | Juski: | look in xorg.conf for RenderAccel |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [15:25:00] | Juski: | if on, turn it off & restart xdm |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | I now got Option "renderaccel" "true" |
| [15:26:00] | Jasper: | it was off before I guess? |
| [15:26:00] | Jasper: | is it default on or off? if it's commented out |
| [15:26:00] | Juski: | defaults to off apparently |
| [15:26:00] | laga: | it's off by default |
| [15:26:00] | laga: | it's considered experimental and unstable |
| [15:26:00] | Jasper: | so I'll put it on now |
| [15:26:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [15:26:00] | Jasper: | HMM |
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| [15:27:00] | Jasper: | you want me to put it on Juski ? |
| [15:27:00] | Juski: | uncomment it saying "renderaccel" "false" to be absolutely sure, I suppose |
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| [15:27:00] | laga: | and i've been told that it won't affect myth playback anyways |
| [15:27:00] | Juski: | I'm definitely all outta ideas now Jasper |
| [15:27:00] | Juski: | ask the users list, if you can stand to |
| [15:28:00] | shadash: | Does myth still require a Window manager? If so which is recommended |
| [15:28:00] | laga: | Juski: is this a combined frontend/backend? |
| [15:28:00] | Juski: | btw googling on "X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)" might get you results also |
| [15:28:00] | Juski: | laga: ask Jasper |
| [15:28:00] | laga: | shadash: yep. evilwm, ratpoison or fluxbox may be good |
| [15:28:00] | Jasper: | yes laga it is |
| [15:28:00] | laga: | err, sorry, iment jasper ^^ |
| [15:28:00] | laga: | Juski: oh, ok. |
| [15:28:00] | Jasper: | yeah juski |
| [15:28:00] | shadash: | thank you laga |
| [15:29:00] | Jasper: | but I get that error because I don't have NV_Colorkey I guess |
| [15:29:00] | Jasper: | since it appears nv_colorkey is no longer on the geforce cards |
| [15:29:00] | shadash: | I'll stick with ratpoision since I know how to script it |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | Juski: ok. what driver? what card? what distro? |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | dammit |
| [15:29:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | i meant Jasper |
| [15:29:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [15:29:00] | Juski: | nvidia 6200 on gentoo |
| [15:29:00] | Jasper: | geforce 6200 gentoo |
| [15:29:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:29:00] | Jasper: | newest nvidia driver |
| [15:30:00] | Jasper: | but all versions of the driver give me the same errors |
| [15:30:00] | Jasper: | on nvnews.net I saw other people had the same problem also |
| [15:30:00] | shadash: | although evilwm looks pretty nice |
| [15:31:00] | laga: | Jasper: at first, use 7676. that's the recommended version. newer ones are buggy. |
| [15:32:00] | Jasper: | yeah laga |
| [15:32:00] | Jasper: | but I tried that version before |
| [15:32:00] | Jasper: | nothing helps :( |
| [15:33:00] | Jasper: | when I try cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/o |
| [15:33:00] | Jasper: | it says it recognises 6200 irq 11 video bios ?? card type agp |
| [15:33:00] | Jasper: | so it has intsalled correctly |
| [15:33:00] | Jasper: | . |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | yeah. sounds good. |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | what *exactly* is your problem? |
| [15:34:00] | Jasper: | ok problem is http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/mythfrontend.data2 |
| [15:34:00] | Jasper: | I get sound for 1 second with xvmc enabled |
| [15:34:00] | Jasper: | and black screen |
| [15:34:00] | Jasper: | and then everything freezes |
| [15:34:00] | Jasper: | if I don't use xvmc everfything works fine |
| [15:35:00] | laga: | wait a sec, just put lotion on my hands and i dont wanna touch the mouse now :) |
| [15:36:00] | Jasper: | hehe |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | 2006-02–23 17:11:44.703 Using OpenGLVideoSync – that's not gonna work with new drivers anyways, will cause high cpu usage. |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | is your display running at 640x480? |
| [15:38:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [15:38:00] | laga: | and your recordings are 720x576, right? |
| [15:38:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [15:39:00] | Jasper: | at least I think it's using 640*480 |
| [15:39:00] | Jasper: | let me check |
| [15:39:00] | laga: | i really doubt this wil lcause any problems, but set X to 800x600 to see if it fixes your problem |
| [15:39:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [15:39:00] | Jasper: | I don't have any resolution defined at this moment |
| [15:39:00] | laga: | VideoOutputXv Error: Couldn't get the color key color – does this happen as well when xvmc is disabled? |
| [15:39:00] | laga: | Jasper: enable one ;) |
| [15:40:00] | Jasper: | no it doesn't |
| [15:40:00] | Jasper: | I think |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | that's weird. |
| [15:40:00] | Jasper: | never checked actually |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | please verify it |
| [15:40:00] | Jasper: | let me tae a look |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | while you are at it, disable opengl vsync as well till you get good drivers ;) |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | did you rebuild mythtv after switching driver versions? that shouldn't cause any problems, but it might help :/ |
| [15:41:00] | ** laga is a little bit lost as well, so there's only suggestions ** | |
| [15:41:00] | Jasper: | yeah I did |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | oh, ok. good :) |
| [15:41:00] | Jasper: | that took me 2,5 hours :p |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | you should use ccache ;) |
| [15:41:00] | Jasper: | yeah.. |
| [15:42:00] | laga: | are you using chromakey osd? |
| [15:42:00] | Jasper: | don't think so |
| [15:43:00] | Jasper: | huh |
| [15:43:00] | Jasper: | how can I define 800600 ? |
| [15:43:00] | laga: | ok. if everything else fails, try that as well. instructions can be found in trac, it's ticket #512. i'm not sure if it'll work with your card, though |
| [15:43:00] | Jasper: | just Modes "800x600" right? |
| [15:43:00] | laga: | Jasper: in the screen section, in 'subsection display' |
| [15:44:00] | Jasper: | yeah but with modes "800x600" right? |
| [15:44:00] | Jasper: | it seams to stick at 640 |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| [15:46:00] | Jasper: | hmm interesting |
| [15:46:00] | Jasper: | I'll upload it |
| [15:46:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/Xorg.0.log |
| [15:47:00] | Jasper: | (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "800x600" (no mode of this name) |
| [15:47:00] | Jasper: | (**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device TV-0: |
| [15:47:00] | Jasper: | (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz |
| [15:47:00] | Jasper: | (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) |
| [15:47:00] | Jasper: | (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 640 x 480 |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | now that's weird! |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | Jasper: are you in PAL country? |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | oh yeah, he is. ;) |
| [15:50:00] | laga: | HorizSync 10–50 |
| [15:50:00] | laga: | VertRefresh 60 |
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| [15:50:00] | laga: | put that in your monitor section (edit your current values accordingly) |
| [15:50:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [15:51:00] | Jasper: | and I only use tv-out laga |
| [15:51:00] | Jasper: | just so you know |
| [15:51:00] | laga: | ok :) |
| [15:52:00] | Jasper: | ok have added it |
| [15:53:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [15:53:00] | Jasper: | 800x600 now |
| [15:53:00] | Jasper: | ;P |
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| [15:54:00] | Jasper: | will upload a new log |
| [15:55:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/mythfrontend.data3 |
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| [15:55:00] | Jasper: | is this a problem youi think? |
| [15:55:00] | Jasper: | 2006-02–23 17:58:20.544 DRMVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/dri/card0, No such file or directory |
| [15:55:00] | Jasper: | 2006-02–23 17:58:20.544 RTCVideoSync: Could not open /dev/rtc, No such file or directory. |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | nope, that's normal since you turned opengl vsync off |
| [15:56:00] | Jasper: | I'm gonna make a log without xvmc now |
| [15:57:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/mythfrontend.data4 |
| [15:57:00] | Jasper: | that's a log without xvmc |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | yeah, you get the same error there. |
| [15:58:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | re colorkey |
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| [15:58:00] | Jasper: | but then it works |
| [15:58:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | heh |
| [15:58:00] | Jasper: | so that can';t be the problem? |
| [15:59:00] | laga: | it's possible. might you wanna search www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ for that colorkey problem. maybe it's just not supported with your card anymore |
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| [16:00:00] | Jasper: | no it's not supported |
| [16:00:00] | Jasper: | allready looked that up |
| [16:00:00] | Jasper: | but the problem is i nthe buffers apparently nvp |
| [16:00:00] | Jasper: | but mplayer also doesn't work |
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| [16:01:00] | laga: | mplayer with Xv or XvMC? |
| [16:02:00] | Jasper: | xvmc |
| [16:02:00] | Jasper: | xv works fine |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | do you have the correct nvidia-glx package? |
| [16:05:00] | Jasper: | huh |
| [16:05:00] | Jasper: | After much pain and suffering, I got it working by setting NVAGP "1" |
| [16:05:00] | Jasper: | in the config file. |
| [16:05:00] | Jasper: | that's a comment of someone |
| [16:05:00] | Jasper: | should I try that?:P |
| [16:06:00] | Juski: | just finished cutting a CPU heatsink down to size :-) (phew) |
| [16:07:00] | laga: | Jasper: yeah, try that. |
| [16:07:00] | stuarta: | fun & games that sounds like |
| [16:07:00] | laga: | Jasper: make sure that agpgart is not loaded! and you have to reboot for the setting to take effect |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | Jasper: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ . . . endix-f.html |
| [16:09:00] | Juski: | agpgart – isn't that just for hard-nosed folks who prefer directfb to X? |
| [16:09:00] | laga: | umm, no? |
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| [16:10:00] | Jasper: | have to finish compiling mplayer first |
| [16:10:00] | Jasper: | before I can reboot |
| [16:10:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [16:10:00] | Jasper: | agpgart is just a module right?: |
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| [16:11:00] | Jasper: | I don't see it loaded when I lsmod.. |
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| [16:11:00] | Juski: | no? so what's agpgart for then? |
| [16:12:00] | Juski: | oh.. general AGP access... still none the wiser |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | agpgart is either compiled in the kernel or a modul |
| [16:12:00] | Jasper: | so how do I make sure it's disabled? |
| [16:13:00] | laga: | Juski: if you don't have it, your agp won't give you full speed. i believe it's jsut a general frameowkr and you still have to have the right driver for your chipset |
| [16:13:00] | laga: | framework* |
| [16:13:00] | Juski: | disabled it in the kernel config & recompile the kernel, or else just never load the module |
| [16:13:00] | laga: | Jasper: make sure it's not statically compiled in. look for CONFIG_AGP in your kernel config |
| [16:13:00] | Jasper: | ok |
| [16:14:00] | laga: | on gentoo, i had to disable CONFIG_AGP because nvidia.ko wouldn't load otherwise due to missing symbols when agpgart was not loaded |
| [16:14:00] | Jasper: | under what section is it in kernel menuconfig"? |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | device drivers – character devices |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | i believe. |
| [16:15:00] | ** laga had so much fun with this stuff in the last two days ** | |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | now everything was working and stupid laga has to try initng ;) |
| [16:15:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:15:00] | Jasper: | it's not selected |
| [16:15:00] | Jasper: | ./dev/agpgart |
| [16:16:00] | laga: | oh, it works now. |
| [16:16:00] | laga: | Jasper: that's weird. the nvidia should be using NvAgp then anyways. |
| [16:16:00] | Jasper: | it probably is then |
| [16:16:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:16:00] | laga: | well, try with agpgart then, can't hurt ;) |
| [16:16:00] | Jasper: | I don't know how I can check |
| [16:16:00] | Jasper: | you want me to put it in the kernel? |
| [16:17:00] | laga: | you probably should see a reference to it either in dmesg or Xorg.0.log |
| [16:17:00] | laga: | Jasper: might be worth a try. |
| [16:17:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:17:00] | Jasper: | so what chipset |
| [16:17:00] | Jasper: | should I give with it.. |
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| [16:17:00] | laga: | the right one :) |
| [16:17:00] | Jasper: | nvidia nforce/nforce2 chipset? |
| [16:18:00] | laga: | depends on your hardware. check gentoo documentation. |
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| [16:20:00] | Juski: | I'll check my config here. xvmc works fine |
| [16:20:00] | laga: | don't mess with it then ;) |
| [16:20:00] | Juski: | agpart isn't a module here |
| [16:21:00] | Juski: | CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y |
| [16:21:00] | Jasper: | man |
| [16:21:00] | Juski: | man man |
| [16:21:00] | Jasper: | I'm wondering which chipset to select :P |
| [16:21:00] | Juski: | no manual file found for man |
| [16:22:00] | Juski: | nvidia |
| [16:22:00] | Juski: | do cat /usr/src/linux/.config |grep AGP |
| [16:22:00] | Juski: | nforce == nvidia, yes? |
| [16:22:00] | Jasper: | config_AGP is not set |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | yeah nforce = nvidia |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | I guess |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | now it says |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | CONFIG_AGP |
| [16:23:00] | Juski: | looks more likely than the other possibilities |
| [16:23:00] | Jasper: | CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=m |
| [16:23:00] | Juski: | cool |
| [16:24:00] | Juski: | leave it as a module, recompile the kernel |
| [16:24:00] | Juski: | then add the module to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [16:24:00] | Juski: | whatever the module is called |
| [16:25:00] | Jasper: | I'm recompiling now |
| [16:25:00] | Jasper: | and making modules_install |
| [16:25:00] | Jasper: | how do I find out the module name? |
| [16:26:00] | laga: | will 'XVideoBlitterSyncToVBlank' (nvidia-settings) have any effect on playback? |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | Jasper: hotplug or coldplug may do that for you... |
| [16:27:00] | Jasper: | k |
| [16:28:00] | laga: | if not, check /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/agp/ or something like that |
| [16:29:00] | laga: | 23s from bootloader to usable mythfrontend. not bad :) |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | certainly not |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | I wish my pc was faster :P |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | How slow ? |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | well, it takes 25s to get to the bootloader ;) |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | that's bad |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: p3 450 |
| [16:30:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | p3 800 |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: And it took you HOURS to compile myth earlier ? |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Cool |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [16:31:00] | Jasper: | GreyFoxx between 2 and 2.5 hours |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper: My devbox is a P3 650, and it takes around 40 minutes when not using ccache or distcc |
| [16:32:00] | Jasper: | .19? |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup/svn |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | i absolutely love it how nvidia-settings doesn't apply the setting of TVOverScan[TV-0]=25. i have to set it to 24 first |
| [16:32:00] | Jasper: | .18 also took me around 25 mins |
| [16:32:00] | Jasper: | 45 |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | takes me 90 minutes to compile mythtv on my athlon 700 without ccache. |
| [16:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | 0.19(well, now a svn, 0.19 is a couple weeks old after all) takes me that long |
| [16:33:00] | stuarta: | ccache = <5mins |
| [16:34:00] | Jasper: | compiling = relaxing |
| [16:34:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [16:34:00] | laga: | i always thought the ccache size had to be rather large to be of any use. if i do a complete recompile of my gentoo box, ccache is only like 500mb afterwards |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | stuart I was about to update the ticket with the new patch when I came accross a segfault in the huffman routines. Weird that I have never come accross them before the refactoring since the code for the routine is identical |
| [16:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got it narrowed down now (thank you gdb) |
| [16:36:00] | stuarta: | something unitialized? |
| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope...well maybe. The length being passed is wrong. insanely high. |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | making the routine loop past the end of the buffer |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've just waiting for it to die again now that I've popped in some more debug routines. |
| [16:37:00] | Jasper: | hmm laga when I try : cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
| [16:37:00] | Jasper: | I get status: disabled |
| [16:37:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: my athlon 2000 took 50 mins to compile mythtv 0.19 without ccache or distcc.. how the hell is a p3 faster? |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | Juski: different CFLAGS, less bloat |
| [16:38:00] | Juski: | maybe my gentoo box isn't riced enough yet |
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| [16:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: No idea, but I did a full, non ccache and no distcc last night and it took 40–50 mins |
| [16:38:00] | Juski: | ah.. CFLAGS :-/ |
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| [16:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm just using a stock Slackware install |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | so intentional fscking with compile flags beyond the ./configure stuff for it |
| [16:39:00] | Juski: | I keep saying one day I'll buy a proper CPU (Intel) but the price always puts me off |
| [16:39:00] | laga: | i'd like to buy a dual core amd64 *drool* |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | is 64 bit working properly yet? |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | laga any idea why it says disabled? |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | when I try cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
| [16:40:00] | laga: | Jasper: what is disabled? |
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| [16:40:00] | Juski: | Jasper: you got directfb enabled? |
| [16:40:00] | wakko: | Good morning |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | no clue.. |
| [16:40:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:40:00] | laga: | Juski: why would directfb show up in /proc/? ;) |
| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I keep saying I'm going to replace that particular box with something speedy but I enver do heh |
| [16:40:00] | laga: | Jasper: check lsmod |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you can do plenty with older hardware if you apply the proper tweaks ;) |
| [16:41:00] | Juski: | going to have a look in menuconfig for the 1st time in aaaages |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: and just avoid bloated crap :) |
| [16:41:00] | wakko: | is there a keyboard command in MythTV that jumps a current recording to the beginning and/or end? |
| [16:41:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [16:41:00] | Jasper: | directfb isn't in there |
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| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | wakko:Hmmm I don't think so |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: USE="-*" did the job for me. ;) |
| [16:42:00] | wakko: | ok – my harmony remote has buttons for it – would be cool ;) |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Not using Gentoo, and not having a USE flag help me :) |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | ;) |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | interesting. mythfrontend feels sluggish now when navigating the menus. looks like i have to turn off some eye candy ;) |
| [16:42:00] | Juski: | Jasper: does glxgears work and if so, what framerate do you get? |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: hehehe ;) |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | wakko: I'm pretty sure there are non currently, at least nothing I remember :) |
| [16:43:00] | wakko: | ok thanks |
| [16:43:00] | Jasper: | hmm you want me to try that while it's making the new kernel? |
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| [16:43:00] | Juski: | Jasper: no point while you're compiling ;-) |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | that's what I figured.. |
| [16:44:00] | Juski: | always a good way to verify your nvidia drivers have made a difference |
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| [17:01:00] | wakko: | hey – should my remote work in the MythTV DVD player? |
| [17:01:00] | wakko: | That's built into MythTV now, no more Xine, right? |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it works with myth it should work using the internal player for edvd's |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | wakko: not quite |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | when I'm playing a DVD and I press the button on my remote for "back" (esc key), it does nothing – but the esc key on the keyboard works. |
| [17:02:00] | Juski: | I mean the remote should work fine, but the internal DVD player might have issues with some discs – still under development |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | ah |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | that's the other thing |
| [17:02:00] | wakko: | commercial DVD would not play back – but a "backed up" dvd worked fine |
| [17:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | You don't have libdvdcss installed |
| [17:03:00] | Jasper: | how long can compiling a kernel take ffs |
| [17:03:00] | wakko: | is that bad? I have no idea what that is |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | wakko: It's bad if you want to watch commercial dvd's :) |
| [17:04:00] | wakko: | heh |
| [17:04:00] | wakko: | are there instructions online for installing it? |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | css == content scrambling system |
| [17:04:00] | wakko: | I'm running kmoppmyth |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can only imagine |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | some less twitchy distros come packing it |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | google is your friend |
| [17:04:00] | wakko: | yup – just googled it – we'll see. . . |
| [17:05:00] | wakko: | thanks ;) |
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| [17:10:00] | Juski: | yay I can use LM837 opamps in my cat5 thingy |
| [17:10:00] | Juski: | GBP of 25MHz – more than enough for video |
| [17:10:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [17:13:00] | Juski: | they're a bit cheaper than EL4022 or whatever I used on my prototype |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | arrrrgggggghhhhhh |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | and by good luck, lm837 is what my schemas are made of |
| [17:15:00] | Jasper: | how much juski? |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I fix the segfault, do one last test before updating the patch in trac, and more siparser changes and now I need to move stuff around again |
| [17:16:00] | Jasper: | like a few cents or a few euro's :P |
| [17:16:00] | Jasper: | or pounds.. |
| [17:16:00] | Juski: | |
| [17:17:00] | Juski: | |
| [17:17:00] | Juski: | this might be cheap enough to make & still be affordable for people to buy |
| [17:17:00] | Juski: | course technically, my employer owns the rights to it |
| [17:17:00] | Jasper: | why is that? |
| [17:17:00] | Juski: | not that I'd tell em :-P |
| [17:18:00] | Juski: | in most employment contracts there's a clause that says anything you invent while working for the company (during your employment period), the company owns it |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [17:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, I had to get something put in my last one saying that didn't apply to me |
| [17:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | And the same for my new company |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | the amps..why do some have +6 -6 |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [17:19:00] | Jasper: | volt |
| [17:19:00] | Juski: | unless I start building CCTV DVRs & domes I doubt I'd get into trouble though |
| [17:20:00] | Juski: | Japser: U1 & U2 are quad parts – four amps in each one |
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| [17:20:00] | Juski: | with a common power supply for all 4 amps ;-) |
| [17:22:00] | coffee88: | damn! After following Jasper's progress for the last few weeks, I thought I should check my other FE to see if it's all playing nice... And guess what.... |
| [17:22:00] | coffee88: | Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 0.7676.0, but this library is version 1.0.6629. Please be sure blah blah blah.... |
| [17:22:00] | Juski: | the regulator U3 splits a single 12 volt input into +6 and -6V |
| [17:22:00] | coffee88: | nivida-kernel and nvidia-glx are both 7676, so I guess I need to rebuild mythtv? |
| [17:23:00] | Juski: | coffee88: er... yes? |
| [17:23:00] | Jasper: | coffee88 just recompile? |
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| [17:23:00] | coffee88: | So just so I'm clear, every change of nvidia stuff, recompile mythtv..... |
| [17:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
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| [17:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | You should not have to rebuild myth if you just updated your nvidia drivers |
| [17:24:00] | Jasper: | hmm laga |
| [17:24:00] | coffee88: | Then where is it getting the 6629 from? |
| [17:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | except in rare circumstances where they changed their library api or something, which has personally never happened to me |
| [17:24:00] | Jasper: | I finished makeing the kernel |
| [17:24:00] | Jasper: | how can I see if it worked out? |
| [17:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | coffee88: You have 2 versions installed and the kerbnel doesn't match the one you are ttempting to load ? |
| [17:25:00] | Jasper: | hymm |
| [17:25:00] | coffee88: | Hmmm. Maybe, but don't think so unless gentoo's getting sloppy. |
| [17:25:00] | Jasper: | Juski I get 1550 fps |
| [17:26:00] | Jasper: | with glxgears |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | that's not bad |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | what cpu you got? |
| [17:27:00] | Jasper: | how can I make sure agpgart is working now |
| [17:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Happy, if the app is saying that the loaded library is 6629m, yet the currently loaded kernel module is 7676 then that is the reason |
| [17:27:00] | Jasper: | 800 mhz Juski |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | Jasper: 1550 fps is good |
| [17:27:00] | Jasper: | good luck recompiling coffee88 :P |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | for an 800mhz machine |
| [17:27:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [17:27:00] | Jasper: | yeah but still |
| [17:27:00] | coffee88: | This box is fast. No problem this time. |
| [17:28:00] | Jasper: | how do I check agpgart? |
| [17:28:00] | coffee88: | GreyFoxx: Which library though? Confused. |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | Jasper: you remade the kernel & rebooted, yes? |
| [17:29:00] | Jasper: | Use intel-agp if you have an intel board. Next, edit /etc/modules.d/aliases and change the line that says this |
| [17:29:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [17:29:00] | Jasper: | Juski that's correct |
| [17:29:00] | coffee88: | having copied the kernel to /boot first, of course?.... |
| [17:29:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | coffee88: libnvidia* |
| [17:29:00] | Jasper: | doh |
| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | what does this return : ldd /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend | grep -i nvidia |
| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | or change the patch to whereever you have mythfrontend |
| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | err path |
| [17:31:00] | coffee88: | GreyFoxx: Err... I have no ldd ..... |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | bullshit |
| [17:31:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | might not be in your path |
| [17:31:00] | coffee88: | Um, not in my path, anyway.... |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | locate ldd |
| [17:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | or use "find" to find it |
| [17:32:00] | Jasper: | hmm nothing gets loaded with agp |
| [17:32:00] | Jasper: | if I try dmesg | grep NVAGP |
| [17:32:00] | Jasper: | nothing is returned |
| [17:32:00] | coffee88: | Found it... Which line are you interested in so I don't spam.... 3 lines returned |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | spit them all into pastebin.ca and post the link |
| [17:34:00] | coffee88: | GreyFoxx: http://pastebin.ca/42907 |
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| [17:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | and what do you get from: ls -la /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libnvidia* |
| [17:36:00] | coffee88: | http://pastebin.ca/42908 |
| [17:36:00] | whyz: | hey yo! i've got a pvr 350, and i'm considering buying a dvb card. Do you know if it's possible to feed the mpeg2 stream from the dvb card directly to the mpeg2 decoder of the pvr 350? that would be neat |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok, now : lets try the same thing for the XVMC stuff since it's nvidia supplied too |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | ldd /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend | grep -i xvmc |
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| [17:38:00] | coffee88: | libXvMC.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXvMC.so.1 (0xb6c7f000) |
| [17:38:00] | Jasper: | how can I see if agpgart works? |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | ls -la /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMC* |
| [17:39:00] | Jasper: | Juski ? |
| [17:39:00] | coffee88: | http://pastebin.ca/42909 |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Now that is messed up. When exactly are you seeing this error show up ? |
| [17:40:00] | coffee88: | when I run mythfrontend -v playback , After starting to watch a recording..... |
| [17:40:00] | coffee88: | I'll rebuild and see what happens. Won't take long..... |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | running 0.19 ? |
| [17:40:00] | coffee88: | yes |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | just for a test try disbaling opengl vsync |
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| [17:41:00] | Jasper: | just recompile |
| [17:41:00] | Jasper: | hmm coffee88 |
| [17:41:00] | Jasper: | did you erboot? |
| [17:41:00] | coffee88: | just kicked off the rebuild.... |
| [17:41:00] | Juski: | Jasper: no idea about how you check agp thingy is working |
| [17:41:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: this isn't windows?! |
| [17:41:00] | Jasper: | did you try a reboot? |
| [17:41:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [17:41:00] | Jasper: | well |
| [17:41:00] | Jasper: | I figured that changing the driver with some stuff running wouldn't work |
| [17:41:00] | Juski: | I guess you load agpgart module or whatever |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I can tell you from experience that you should not have to recompile, but it's your time :) |
| [17:42:00] | Jasper: | yeah Juski it's loaded |
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| [17:42:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: I haven't changed anything. Cold booted about an hour ago.... |
| [17:42:00] | Jasper: | but when I try cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
| [17:42:00] | Jasper: | it still says status: disabled |
| [17:44:00] | ** coffee88 goes off to get a coffee to warm up while things are building.... ** | |
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| [17:54:00] | Juski: | ugh single sided PCBs are a bitch to lay out |
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| [17:56:00] | coffee88: | heh. Looks like the rebuild worked. No more errors, and "VideoOutputXv: XvMC surface found with IDCT support on port 240" |
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| [17:57:00] | Jasper: | damn |
| [17:57:00] | Jasper: | I don't get this agpgart |
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| [18:05:00] | SimonTemplar: | does anybody know where to find information on not seeing an active recording in the recordings list? |
| [18:07:00] | Jasper: | juski do you know anythign about sysctl? |
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| [18:09:00] | Juski: | sysctlsaywhat? |
| [18:10:00] | Juski: | computer says "no" |
| [18:10:00] | SimonTemplar: | configure kernel parameters realtime |
| [18:10:00] | SimonTemplar: | at runtime |
| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, what about it? |
| [18:10:00] | SimonTemplar: | sorry |
| [18:11:00] | Jasper: | juski |
| [18:11:00] | Juski: | duh – stupid pcb design program won't let me have vertically oriented resistors... ass |
| [18:11:00] | Jasper: | hehe |
| [18:11:00] | Juski: | Jasper.. what? |
| [18:11:00] | Jasper: | never mind |
| [18:12:00] | Juski: | you've had the benefit of all my linux knowledge, w.r.t. your problem (and about everything else, what there is of it) |
| [18:12:00] | SimonTemplar: | lol |
| [18:12:00] | ** coffee88 goes off to hear the gf's daily rant about her day. I may be a while. ** | |
| [18:12:00] | Juski: | I have a rest from that tonight |
| [18:13:00] | Juski: | does any woman know that "I had a shit day" would be enough? ;-) |
| [18:13:00] | Coume: | lol |
| [18:13:00] | Juski: | my wife's been reading that nice "men are from venus.. women are from mars" book – it explains everything, but still... |
| [18:14:00] | Juski: | I'm dead if she ever finds these chat logs aren't it? |
| [18:14:00] | Juski: | *I ? |
| [18:14:00] | kormoc: | Juski, and google likes the logs |
| [18:14:00] | Coume: | no justin, no worries ;) will just have to buy a nice dinner |
| [18:15:00] | Jasper: | w.r.t = ? |
| [18:15:00] | Juski: | Japser: with respect to |
| [18:15:00] | kormoc: | Juski, send a check for $299.95 per line you want removed to Beirdo, 123 S. extortion ave, canada vzv4d3 |
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| [18:15:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [18:15:00] | SimonTemplar: | just don't tell your nickname and you'll be fine with google :D |
| [18:16:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
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| [18:20:00] | Brov: | I can play and rip DVD's but how do I do a directory of its contents over tsh? |
| [18:20:00] | Led-Hed: | anyone know of a good tutorial for modelines. |
| [18:22:00] | Juski: | bah to hell with this work lark. time to go home |
| [18:22:00] | Juski: | I'll make up my hours tomorrow |
| [18:22:00] | Juski: | ttfn |
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| [18:27:00] | drdaz: | lo all... my liveTV and tv card in general seems to have gone belly up without warning.. |
| [18:27:00] | drdaz: | I get this in mythbackend.log: |
| [18:28:00] | drdaz: | select timeout – ivtv driver has stopped responding |
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| [18:28:00] | drdaz: | a few people have been getting this recently... does anybody know what's going on there? |
| [18:30:00] | macroexp: | what version of ivtv |
| [18:30:00] | drdaz: | just tried both 0.4.2 and 0.4.3 |
| [18:31:00] | drdaz: | built from source |
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| [18:32:00] | macroexp: | ps ax |
| [18:32:00] | macroexp: | hmm irc doesn't respond to shell cmds very well |
| [18:32:00] | drdaz: | lolz |
| [18:32:00] | drdaz: | u dont want my output from that then I take it? |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | ok I've had itr |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | time to format |
| [18:33:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [18:34:00] | macroexp: | no i just looked to see if i was getting similar messages in my logs and found a bazillion memory allocation failures |
| [18:34:00] | drdaz: | heh ok |
| [18:35:00] | drdaz: | this... really blows Oo |
| [18:35:00] | drdaz: | could it be that the card is toast? |
| [18:36:00] | macroexp: | could try a different firmware or something |
| [18:36:00] | drdaz: | yeah... just weird that it works gr8 for months and then suddenly.. |
| [18:36:00] | drdaz: | nada |
| [18:36:00] | drdaz: | :-| |
| [18:36:00] | macroexp: | did you upgrade kernel or anything? |
| [18:36:00] | drdaz: | nope |
| [18:37:00] | drdaz: | I noticed a little artifacting and so I figured I'd poweroff |
| [18:37:00] | drdaz: | did so for like 30 secs |
| [18:37:00] | drdaz: | now no picture at all |
| [18:38:00] | drdaz: | kinda weird tho that this has been happening to a couple of folks lately.. |
| [18:38:00] | drdaz: | and across different versions of PVR card |
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| [18:40:00] | SimonTemplar: | do you guys know how to make a video playlist? |
| [18:43:00] | drdaz: | there isnt an ivtv IRC channel somewhere is there? |
| [18:44:00] | laga: | #ivtv-dev |
| [18:44:00] | drdaz: | n1 thx |
| [18:44:00] | Jasper: | laga ...you got time to look to agpgart with me? |
| [18:45:00] | laga: | Jasper: a little bit :) what's the matter? |
| [18:45:00] | Jasper: | ok |
| [18:45:00] | Jasper: | how can I see if it's working? |
| [18:45:00] | laga: | try 'lsmod' and see if it's used |
| [18:45:00] | Jasper: | well |
| [18:45:00] | Jasper: | I can make them load |
| [18:46:00] | Jasper: | but when I try cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
| [18:46:00] | Jasper: | it still says status disabled |
| [18:47:00] | laga: | weird. do you still have that "NvAGP 1" stuff in your xorg.conf? |
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| [18:47:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [18:47:00] | Jasper: | I have |
| [18:47:00] | Jasper: | option "NvAGP" "1" |
| [18:47:00] | laga: | remove it or set nit to somethign more sensible |
| [18:48:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga? njord! |
| [18:48:00] | Jasper: | but that shouldn't change amnything should it? |
| [18:48:00] | Jasper: | since I don't run X |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: i know my spelling sucks, i'm not used to that keyboard ;) |
| [18:48:00] | Jasper: | I just try cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status directly after a reboot |
| [18:48:00] | SimonTemplar: | haha :D |
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| [18:49:00] | Juski_: | hmmm can I record the soaps tonight? hmmmm. nope |
| [18:49:00] | laga: | Jasper: is the special module for your chipset loaded? |
| [18:50:00] | Jasper: | laga I'm rebooting now with nvidia-agp and agpgart in modules.autoload.d |
| [18:52:00] | drdaz: | omfg |
| [18:52:00] | drdaz: | found the problem |
| [18:52:00] | Jasper: | ok laga in lsmod it says nvidia_agp and agpgart |
| [18:52:00] | Jasper: | and agpgart is used by nvidia_agp |
| [18:52:00] | drdaz: | ftr... somehow the card was being set to stream_type=1 at startup... stream_type=0 works fine |
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| [18:54:00] | Jasper: | but it still says disabled jnow laga |
| [18:54:00] | Jasper: | and when I try dmesg | grep agp |
| [18:54:00] | Jasper: | it returns NOTHING |
| [18:55:00] | Juski_: | is grep case sensitive? |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | yep |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | try grep -i |
| [18:56:00] | Jasper: | hmm lage |
| [18:56:00] | Jasper: | laga |
| [18:56:00] | Jasper: | I found something |
| [18:56:00] | Jasper: | when I try less /var/log/dmesg | grep agp |
| [18:56:00] | Jasper: | I get Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones |
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| [18:56:00] | Jasper: | bus pci: add driver agpgart-nvidia |
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| [18:58:00] | SimonTemplar: | hmm changing entries directly in mysql in mythconverg is not smart lol |
| [18:59:00] | drdaz: | is there a way of takinga screenshot of mythmusic running? I'm running KDE... I know that in gnome printscreen works, but.. |
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| [18:59:00] | SimonTemplar: | (if you are not sure what you are doing, that is) |
| [18:59:00] | Pete__: | does mythtv support dab cards? |
| [18:59:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: there are some opengl screenshot grabbers somewhere |
| [18:59:00] | Juski_: | Pete__: no myth doesn't support DAB |
| [18:59:00] | Juski_: | DVB, yes. DAB, no |
| [19:00:00] | drdaz: | ok... I need to grab a screen from your skin Juski :) |
| [19:00:00] | Pete__: | ah ok, I have 2 dvb cards, was just wandering about dab |
| [19:00:00] | laga: | Jasper: sorry, i'm running out of ideads |
| [19:00:00] | drdaz: | have to illustrate a problem I've got :p |
| [19:00:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [19:00:00] | Juski_: | skin?! don't fscking call it a skin. 'skin' makes it sound like a lame scrawl done for WinAMP done by a spotty 13 year old kit |
| [19:00:00] | Jasper: | laga do you think I have to load nvidia-agp and agpgart? |
| [19:00:00] | Jasper: | both? |
| [19:00:00] | drdaz: | sorry :( |
| [19:01:00] | drdaz: | your masterpiece |
| [19:01:00] | drdaz: | * |
| [19:01:00] | ** laga boozes Juski_ ** | |
| [19:01:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: to be honest, I've taken a holiday from theming |
| [19:01:00] | drdaz: | oh |
| [19:01:00] | drdaz: | hmm |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | Jasper: i have no clue, sorry :/ search the gentoo forums |
| [19:01:00] | ** drdaz scratches his head ** | |
| [19:01:00] | drdaz: | any idea when you'll be back? |
| [19:01:00] | Juski_: | if the problem is the folder navigation I have no idea how to fix it – god knows I tried |
| [19:01:00] | Jasper: | laga I can't even sysctl hw.nvidia :P |
| [19:01:00] | SimonTemplar: | do you guys know the problem that recordings aren't being shown under watch recordings? |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | Jasper: i have no clue what that'd do ;) |
| [19:02:00] | Juski_: | SimonTemplar: mythtv defaults to only showing certain recording groups at first |
| [19:02:00] | SimonTemplar: | ok |
| [19:02:00] | SimonTemplar: | and how can I change that? |
| [19:03:00] | SimonTemplar: | because at first it worked |
| [19:03:00] | drdaz: | Juski: it isnt :) I'm running on a 16:9 CRT... mythmusic isnt fulling the screen at all – the visualizations box is jammed up against the right of the screen with the volume bar |
| [19:03:00] | SimonTemplar: | and now it doesn't anymore (after changing file locations) |
| [19:03:00] | drdaz: | filling* |
| [19:03:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: you using the wide theme? |
| [19:03:00] | drdaz: | yep |
| [19:03:00] | Juski_: | oh yeh – happens here too |
| [19:03:00] | drdaz: | the rest looks class tho |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: take a look at keys.txt (probably 'm' or 'i') |
| [19:03:00] | drdaz: | I had to fiddle the text size in the theme mind |
| [19:04:00] | Juski_: | this is gonna sound harsh, but you'll have to live with it til I get motivated enough to fiddle with it again |
| [19:04:00] | drdaz: | hey np :) |
| [19:04:00] | SimonTemplar: | aha, you guys are the best :D |
| [19:04:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: did you install the bitstream Vera font? |
| [19:04:00] | drdaz: | but it's happening on your rig too? |
| [19:04:00] | drdaz: | yes.. |
| [19:04:00] | Juski_: | Arial or Tahoma will work too btw |
| [19:04:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: yes... I noticed it the other day |
| [19:04:00] | Juski_: | won't take long to fix it |
| [19:05:00] | drdaz: | ahh ok... I figured it was something screwy on my end |
| [19:05:00] | Juski_: | I plan to re-do the whole thing soon anyway |
| [19:05:00] | Juski_: | newer, spiffier ;-) |
| [19:05:00] | drdaz: | yeah u said something about combining both of them right? |
| [19:05:00] | drdaz: | hehe... I think this one's hella spiffy |
| [19:06:00] | Juski_: | yeh a while ago I did. That's gone to the wall since I found I can use wide themes on my frontend properly |
| [19:06:00] | Juski_: | so it's bye bye 4:3 Grayhem |
| [19:06:00] | stuarta: | :( |
| [19:06:00] | drdaz: | heh |
| [19:06:00] | Juski_: | maintaining one is a handful enough |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | Juski_: how do you do that? i thought you were using an SDTV? |
| [19:07:00] | drdaz: | maintaining a theme? I could imagine.. |
| [19:07:00] | Juski_: | laga: yep.. got 400 225 as my DISPLAYSIZE |
| [19:07:00] | jams: | right, once you can 16:9 4:3 themes lose priority |
| [19:07:00] | Juski_: | running at 720x576 too |
| [19:07:00] | Juski_: | the button text is offset a little but I can totally live with that |
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| [19:08:00] | wakko: | knoppmyth |
| [19:08:00] | wakko: | oops |
| [19:08:00] | drdaz: | ... the font used is defined in the theme right? |
| [19:08:00] | Juski_: | yep |
| [19:08:00] | Juski_: | lots |
| [19:09:00] | Juski_: | needs a major cleanup to take the theme features (font base etc) into account so you define a font usage once or so |
| [19:09:00] | SimonTemplar: | thanks guys for the help |
| [19:10:00] | drdaz: | kk... do you also have your 'top' level of mythmusic (All My Music etc) displayed as "All M..." |
| [19:10:00] | drdaz: | ? |
| [19:10:00] | Juski_: | next themes I do (!) will more or less keep the same layout – that should make the job a whole lot easier |
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| [19:12:00] | drdaz: | Juski: do you define your PAL modeline to be interlaced? |
| [19:12:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: I get that by putting 720x576Over in my minimyth.conf file |
| [19:13:00] | Juski_: | minimyth takes care of a lot, which is nice cos I'm so lazy |
| [19:13:00] | drdaz: | hehe |
| [19:13:00] | drdaz: | ok... I'm guessing I should try adding the interlacing flag to my modeline... |
| [19:13:00] | Juski_: | btw http://www.juski.co.uk/music.png |
| [19:14:00] | drdaz: | atm I have to use a deinterlace filter to watch TV else it looks like arse |
| [19:14:00] | SimonTemplar: | wow that theme looks dark! |
| [19:14:00] | Juski_: | hello! |
| [19:14:00] | drdaz: | lolz |
| [19:14:00] | drdaz: | hi |
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| [19:14:00] | SimonTemplar: | :D |
| [19:14:00] | Juski_: | SimonTemplar: you've noticed the point of the theme then |
| [19:15:00] | wakko: | Jams – you there? |
| [19:15:00] | Juski_: | I wanted one that looked less like something I didn't like ;-) |
| [19:15:00] | SimonTemplar: | lol |
| [19:15:00] | SimonTemplar: | well it looks nice I think |
| [19:15:00] | ** drdaz agrees ** | |
| [19:15:00] | Pete__: | scanning with a dvb card, I get what 'no signal' is hinting at, but what does 'no tables' reffer to? |
| [19:15:00] | Juski_: | hey don't pander to my bad mood :-) |
| [19:16:00] | SimonTemplar: | lol sorry |
| [19:16:00] | Juski_: | Pete__: it means myth couldn't find the channel tables |
| [19:16:00] | Pete__: | Juski_: hmm ok, how to I fetch them? |
| [19:16:00] | Juski_: | DVB has lots of channels on one frequency right... there are tables saying which part of the stream things are in |
| [19:17:00] | SimonTemplar: | pids? |
| [19:17:00] | Juski_: | Pete__: myth gets them on the fly |
| [19:17:00] | Juski_: | yes, PIDs |
| [19:17:00] | terevos: | here's a question.. might be stupid: If I get a ATSC card, can I receive NTSC signals still? |
| [19:17:00] | Pete__: | ok |
| [19:17:00] | Juski_: | terevos: depends on the card |
| [19:17:00] | terevos: | Juski_: card needs to specifically be analog AND digital? |
| [19:17:00] | SimonTemplar: | gonna grab a pizza, later guys |
| [19:17:00] | Juski_: | if an ATSC card does do NTSC aswell it'll be a software encoder-needing framegrabber on the NTSC side |
| [19:18:00] | Juski_: | and in any case you prolly can't use both at the same time, so you might aswell add a PVR150 or something IMHO |
| [19:19:00] | terevos: | yeah.. I was thinking of getting HD, but wasn't sure if I was really ready or not |
| [19:19:00] | terevos: | guess I'll get a PVR150 or similar as I'm still on a SD TV |
| [19:19:00] | Juski_: | not much point getting a HD card if your TV isn't HD too |
| [19:21:00] | terevos: | well.. I do have computer monitors that have decent resolution |
| [19:22:00] | Juski_: | yeh, but watching on a monitor, not sitting on a comfy sofa, not surrounded by 5.1 audio..... hardly comparable ;-) |
| [19:23:00] | meushi: | Juski_: you forgot the beer and the crisps |
| [19:23:00] | meushi: | ;) |
| [19:23:00] | drdaz: | Juski: http://drdaz.adsl.dk/pub/screenshot.png |
| [19:23:00] | Juski_: | just the beer for me ta :-) |
| [19:23:00] | Juski_: | yeh drdaz: not got round to widening that yet |
| [19:24:00] | drdaz: | np |
| [19:24:00] | Juski_: | and amazingly you're the 1st person to bring that up! |
| [19:24:00] | drdaz: | just so u know what I'm blabbering about |
| [19:24:00] | drdaz: | w00t! |
| [19:24:00] | drdaz: | wow |
| [19:24:00] | sandos: | is vsync possible while using vesa-fb? |
| [19:24:00] | Juski_: | Pete Tong? have you no taste in music? ;-) |
| [19:24:00] | drdaz: | lol |
| [19:25:00] | drdaz: | he's... alright... heh |
| [19:25:00] | Juski_: | saying that you should see my ex-cheesy dj collection I've got |
| [19:25:00] | drdaz: | not the best DJ in the world.. but not the worst :) |
| [19:26:00] | drdaz: | who's the DJ with the most cheese u think? |
| [19:26:00] | Pete__: | so why might mythtv not be grabbing the table data for me? |
| [19:26:00] | drdaz: | it should be said until you've heard danish "DJ's" you havent heard cheese.. |
| [19:26:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: Judge (the fudge packer) Jules |
| [19:26:00] | Pete__: | I have had mythtv working before, but now im using it on a new box with 2 capture cards ;) |
| [19:26:00] | drdaz: | hehe.. granted |
| [19:27:00] | drdaz: | poppy trance --> cheese |
| [19:27:00] | Juski_: | Pete__: the working system.. was it a new install or just an upgrade? |
| [19:28:00] | Pete__: | new install on a different box, I never remember having this problem when scanning for channels before though |
| [19:28:00] | Juski_: | I found DVB scanning to be a bit er... borked with my card |
| [19:29:00] | Pete__: | Might take a card out and try scanning again, just with the old card |
| [19:29:00] | Juski_: | tried all sorts – just wasn't playing canny for me |
| [19:29:00] | Pete__: | hmm |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm, cheese |
| [19:29:00] | Juski_: | the EIT / SIT changes should make a huge difference.. but they're not in 0.19 |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the patches in track wont apply to current svn |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Daniel has been moving a lot of code around in the last couple days :) |
| [19:30:00] | Pete__: | hmm |
| [19:33:00] | stuarta: | an awful lot of code. But it's necessary |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | I hope nothing gets borked in the process :) |
| [19:34:00] | stuarta: | not so far |
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| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, and I had fixed that segfault and completed the patch only to find more had moved so I'm compiling another :) |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | But it's all good. Nice to see it getting done |
| [19:34:00] | esoteric: | anyone know if there are rpms for fedora for 0.19 yet? |
| [19:34:00] | stuarta: | :) |
| [19:35:00] | stuarta: | it's needed it for a long time. |
| [19:36:00] | esoteric: | anyone? |
| [19:37:00] | drdaz: | esoteric: yes |
| [19:37:00] | drdaz: | there are |
| [19:37:00] | esoteric: | upgrade process is .... backup mysql db ... rpm upgrade, and finished? .. |
| [19:37:00] | esoteric: | where can I find the rpm files? |
| [19:38:00] | drdaz: | well... I used yum myself.. |
| [19:38:00] | drdaz: | but the rpms are @ atrpms.net |
| [19:38:00] | esoteric: | yum works for me |
| [19:38:00] | esoteric: | I don't care which one ... either works .. |
| [19:38:00] | drdaz: | if you've got atrpms configured as an active yum repo.. |
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| [19:38:00] | drdaz: | yum upgrade will do the job for you |
| [19:39:00] | esoteric: | alright, I will try that tonight ... |
| [19:39:00] | esoteric: | thanks! |
| [19:39:00] | drdaz: | np |
| [19:39:00] | esoteric: | yum upgrade mythtv? (that the command?) |
| [19:39:00] | drdaz: | well I keep my install updated with atrpms... so I just ran upgrade |
| [19:40:00] | drdaz: | you could try yum install mythtv |
| [19:40:00] | drdaz: | not sure if that would update the whole lot tho.. I think it wouldnt |
| [19:40:00] | esoteric: | alright I will test when I get home |
| [19:40:00] | Jasper: | laga I managed to get it working a bit |
| [19:42:00] | terevos: | for those of you who have upgraded to 0.19 – what themes are you using? and are they good? |
| [19:42:00] | drdaz: | ProjectGrayhem-wide! |
| [19:43:00] | ** drdaz kisses Juski's ass ** | |
| [19:44:00] | terevos: | also – is there a good mythtv theme site where I can preview themes? |
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| [19:52:00] | xris: | terevos: wiki.mythtv.org |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | I don't know how many are updated for .19, though |
| [19:53:00] | terevos: | geez.. I've been to mythtv.org I don't know how many times.. never seen the wiki before though |
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| [20:02:00] | laga: | Jasper ? |
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| [20:03:00] | Jasper: | laga I got it enabled |
| [20:04:00] | Jasper: | I didn't know I had to check it out in x :P |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | ok, i'm running two frontends now, both have mythvideo installed and the video files are mounted are mounted on a different directory on each frontend. now every file shows up twice, presumably because it's stored twice in the database now, one time for each frontend. is this intended behaviour or am i being stupid? |
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| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's expected that you will mount them in the same location on each frontend |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | otherwise you will see what you are seeing |
| [20:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or just use directory browsemode and never pull anything into videomanager at all |
| [20:06:00] | laga: | ok, thanks. gonna mess with my fstab then ;) |
| [20:06:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi all. hi GreyFoxx |
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| [20:09:00] | Juski_: | drdaz: don't lay it on too thick :-) |
| [20:10:00] | Juski_: | took me ages to find out why I scanned for videos on one frontend & it made them disappear on the other one :-/ |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | hehehe |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | i kinda like it the way is it because it shares imdb info now |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | i hope the poor p3 can cope with my xvid files |
| [20:11:00] | Juski_: | only noticed when I started using the upstairs frontend to edit the metadata ;-) |
| [20:11:00] | drdaz: | :p |
| [20:11:00] | SimonTemplar: | :D |
| [20:12:00] | simon_c_home: | Whos the best person to contact about adding a binary download location to the "web_links/precompiled packages" page ? |
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| [20:12:00] | Juski_: | laga: my wife's laptop (700mhz) just copes with xvid in windows, so a 600mhz box in Linux should cope too |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | Juski_: oh no, i don't want to overclock it again ;) |
| [20:13:00] | Juski_: | unencumbered by windows, xbox' handles xvid/divx/everything just fine |
| [20:13:00] | ** laga wonders my mplayer -vo xvmc,xv wouldn't work – isn't it supposed to fall back to xv if xvmc won't work? ** | |
| [20:13:00] | Juski_: | & that's just a 733 celery |
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| [20:13:00] | SimonTemplar: | yup |
| [20:13:00] | Juski_: | laga: yeh it's sposed to |
| [20:14:00] | laga: | weird. gotta fiddle with it, then |
| [20:14:00] | Juski_: | xine might handle it better |
| [20:14:00] | ** simon_c_home 's oldest front end is a P3, 500, which works. *most* of the time ** | |
| [20:15:00] | Juski_: | I'm sorta forced to use xine, besides liking it more than mplayer |
| [20:15:00] | laga: | my oldest frontend is a p3 450 which works all of the time ;) (at least, it did in the last two days) |
| [20:15:00] | Juski_: | time for eats (8:15pm!) |
| [20:15:00] | Jasper: | laga I got to the point that the internal agp works |
| [20:15:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [20:16:00] | laga: | Jasper: nice. did it improve things? and what internal agp? agpgart? |
| [20:16:00] | laga: | Jasper: sorry, forgot about you ;)) |
| [20:16:00] | simon_c_home: | I do have one problem on it though. There's a a recordings (picked up from dvb-t, and not trasncoded yet) that suffers sound dropouts. It's fine on other frontends, and other recordings are fine on this front end. |
| [20:16:00] | simon_c_home: | strange. |
| [20:16:00] | Jasper: | it now uses the nvidia driver |
| [20:16:00] | Jasper: | and no |
| [20:16:00] | Jasper: | it improve snothing :( |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | i thought you'd been using the nvidia driver before? o_O |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | Jasper: are you sure that xvmc actually works with the 6200? |
| [20:17:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [20:17:00] | Jasper: | but it won't run agpgart |
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| [20:18:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, you sure you compiled into your kernel the correct agpgart driver? |
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| [20:18:00] | Jasper: | then I get AGP initialisation failed |
| [20:18:00] | Jasper: | P |
| [20:18:00] | kormoc: | and dmesg says? |
| [20:18:00] | Jasper: | kormoc http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/agp.log |
| [20:18:00] | Jasper: | guess so |
| [20:20:00] | Jasper: | AGP initialization failed, please check the ouput |
| [20:20:00] | Jasper: | of the 'dmesg' command and/or your system log file |
| [20:20:00] | Jasper: | for additional information on this setup problem |
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| [20:20:00] | Jasper: | that's what I get now |
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| [20:22:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, and that's the only thing dmesg outputs? |
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| [20:25:00] | Jasper: | well yer kormoc if I grep it for agp |
| [20:25:00] | Jasper: | should it be more? |
| [20:34:00] | drdaz: | hmm... if I'm outputting an interlaced signal to my TV, why do I get motion blur when I'm not using a deinterlacer? |
| [20:34:00] | drdaz: | oO |
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| [20:35:00] | laga: | that's normal, because somethign usually messes the signal up by scaling or the like |
| [20:35:00] | drdaz: | u think outputting at native PAL would improve it? |
| [20:36:00] | laga: | yep, of course. but it never quite worked for me (and others), xv tends to break it |
| [20:36:00] | drdaz: | :-/ kk |
| [20:37:00] | SimonTemplar: | what is a good resolution for putting it on tv? |
| [20:37:00] | drdaz: | I tried native res actually... but for some reason xine did stupid things playing back HD content :( |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | 720x576 if you're in PAL land ;) |
| [20:37:00] | SimonTemplar: | ah |
| [20:38:00] | drdaz: | I lost about 1/3 of the picture off the right of the screen |
| [20:38:00] | drdaz: | any idea whatsoever as to why *that* would happen? |
| [20:38:00] | SimonTemplar: | Modeline "720x576" 27.15 720 736 880 896 576 578 579 606 |
| [20:38:00] | SimonTemplar: | something like that? |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | i'Ve got a good one |
| [20:39:00] | Jasper: | laga will deinterlacing give a better view? |
| [20:39:00] | SimonTemplar: | he drdaz maybe it's the overscan |
| [20:39:00] | drdaz: | no |
| [20:39:00] | drdaz: | :) |
| [20:39:00] | drdaz: | it screwed the aspect ratio too.. |
| [20:39:00] | SimonTemplar: | when I used overscan on my tv it was all bad |
| [20:39:00] | SimonTemplar: | ok |
| [20:39:00] | drdaz: | and everything else ran fine |
| [20:39:00] | drdaz: | and still runs fine in 1024*768 |
| [20:40:00] | drdaz: | really really weird actually |
| [20:40:00] | SimonTemplar: | ok |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | ModeLine "720x576x50i" 12.58 720 752 792 824 576 589 592 605 interlace – but you'd have to modify your vrfresh and horizsync settings, probably |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: no PMs, please ;) |
| [20:40:00] | SimonTemplar: | haha ok |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: i'm not registered, hehe |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | Jasper: yep |
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| [20:41:00] | laga: | but with that modeline, the bob deinterlacer wouldn't work properly for me anymore :) it gives me the best results. so i'm running 800x600 now |
| [20:41:00] | drdaz: | I find bob 2x to give the best picture by far.. just a shame about the flicker :-| |
| [20:41:00] | SimonTemplar: | ok here we go (ctrl alt backspace) |
| [20:41:00] | drdaz: | heh |
| [20:41:00] | SimonTemplar: | looks fine |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | drdaz: i don't get flicker with xvmc + opengl vsync |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | (and chromakey osd) |
| [20:42:00] | drdaz: | really? |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | yep. my playback is just awesome. :) |
| [20:42:00] | drdaz: | chromakey... thats VIA isnt it? |
| [20:42:00] | drdaz: | lies |
| [20:42:00] | drdaz: | ignore what I just wrote :p |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | drdaz: works with nvidia as well, check ticket #512 in trac |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:43:00] | ** simon_c_home ponders myth playback on the Xgl cube..... ** | |
| [20:43:00] | SimonTemplar: | he laga thanks |
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| [20:45:00] | drdaz: | laga: just trying the VIA XvMC option.. |
| [20:45:00] | drdaz: | playback seems a tad jumpy... no more flicker tho |
| [20:45:00] | laga: | drdaz: what kind of hardware is that? |
| [20:46:00] | drdaz: | FX5200, Socket939 Sempron 3400+, 1GB DDR400 Dual |
| [20:46:00] | drdaz: | not lacking muscle :) |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | what are you using the via xvmc stuff then? ;) |
| [20:46:00] | Jasper: | which deinterlacer is the best laga? |
| [20:47:00] | drdaz: | I think its cos I'm tired and confused tbh |
| [20:47:00] | laga: | Jasper: kerneldeint if you can afford it cpu-wise. bobdeint works best if you can live with the flicker ;) |
| [20:47:00] | laga: | drdaz: is opengl vsync enabled? |
| [20:47:00] | drdaz: | yeah |
| [20:48:00] | laga: | *ponder* realtime priority? ;) |
| [20:48:00] | drdaz: | yep |
| [20:48:00] | ** laga looks at his cheat sheet ** | |
| [20:48:00] | drdaz: | heh.. I expect its the VIA option, dont you? |
| [20:49:00] | drdaz: | interesting that I dont get flicker using that tho... |
| [20:49:00] | Jasper: | huh |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | drdaz: what VIA option? you lost me, kind of |
| [20:49:00] | Jasper: | it looks like xvmc is wokring |
| [20:49:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [20:49:00] | drdaz: | VIA XvMC playback |
| [20:49:00] | Jasper: | nah this is impossible |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | drdaz: make sure you're using the nvidia libs ;) |
| [20:50:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: I |
| [20:50:00] | drdaz: | using standard XvMC there's no problem |
| [20:50:00] | SimonTemplar: | can send you my agp settings |
| [20:50:00] | drdaz: | apart from flicker |
| [20:51:00] | Jasper: | wow |
| [20:51:00] | Jasper: | I think it's working |
| [20:51:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [20:52:00] | SimonTemplar: | ok |
| [20:52:00] | SimonTemplar: | what is so special about xvmc? |
| [20:52:00] | Jasper: | HAHA |
| [20:52:00] | Juski_: | xvmc takes a lot of the load off your cpu playing back mpeg2 |
| [20:52:00] | Jasper: | IT'S WORKING~!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [20:52:00] | SimonTemplar: | aha |
| [20:52:00] | Juski_: | Jasper: really? |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | it accelerates playback of mpeg2 video and it changes the way the bobdeinterlacer behaves, it believe |
| [20:53:00] | SimonTemplar: | Ok, and has better quality? |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | www.mythtv.org/wiki/ – search for 'xvmc' there |
| [20:53:00] | Jasper: | cpu load without = 90% |
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| [20:53:00] | Jasper: | it's 48% with |
| [20:53:00] | Jasper: | so I guess it's working ? :P |
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| [20:54:00] | Jasper: | but I haven't tried it with tv-out yet |
| [20:54:00] | drdaz: | laga: I was getting Chromakey OSD and the Unichrome video accelerator I believe :) |
| [20:54:00] | Jasper: | I'm just trying it on the moniter |
| [20:54:00] | Jasper: | Juski_ about time after 1 week |
| [20:54:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [20:54:00] | SimonTemplar: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | Juski_: | w00t.. we rock |
| [20:55:00] | SimonTemplar: | my cpu is at about 12 without xvmc |
| [20:55:00] | Juski_: | got there in the end... now reboot & watch it break :-P |
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| [20:55:00] | Juski_: | I get 12% CPU usage playing back mpeg2 recordings on my 1Ghz :) |
| [20:55:00] | ** stuarta does the *woo hoo* shuffle... ** | |
| [20:56:00] | Juski_: | so Japser: what finally did it? |
| [20:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | any fedora people know where I can find SSE2 rpm's? for things like transcode, ffmpeg, mencoder and so forth |
| [20:56:00] | The_Login: | hello all |
| [20:56:00] | The_Login: | soon mplayer will support the dvd navigation |
| [20:56:00] | simon_c_home: | SlicerDicer-: Have you tried atrpms ? |
| [20:56:00] | The_Login: | nice :) |
| [20:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | atrpms? |
| [20:56:00] | Jasper: | I got no clue at all why it's working now Juski_ |
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| [20:57:00] | Jasper: | well |
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| [20:57:00] | drdaz: | I need to rtfm on this chromakey lark.. I'm looking @ the trac but don't see what I gotta do to enable it... anybody got a link? |
| [20:57:00] | Jasper: | I installed agpgart |
| [20:57:00] | simon_c_home: | SlicerDicer-: http://atrpms.net/name/ |
| [20:57:00] | Jasper: | which made my agp mode go from 2x to 4x |
| [20:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [20:57:00] | Jasper: | using nvagp |
| [20:57:00] | Jasper: | I'm gonna reboot now |
| [20:57:00] | Jasper: | and hopefully it will still work |
| [20:58:00] | Jasper: | the only obstacle now is....WILL it work with tv-out enabled.. |
| [20:58:00] | SimonTemplar: | haha hope so too jasper |
| [20:58:00] | Juski_: | laga: seen this that Coume posted? http://www.metku.net/index.html?sect=view& . . . pc/index_eng |
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| [20:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | simon_c_home: looking at it how would I tell what ones are SSE2 enabled? |
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| [20:59:00] | Juski_: | pc in a whisky bottle... interesting idea. maybe I'll finish that JD tomorrow night after all ;) |
| [20:59:00] | simon_c_home: | SlicerDicer-: Is SSE2 a fedora subtype or something ? |
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| [20:59:00] | ** Juski_ goes to watch some more mythtv... only 180GB left unwatched ** | |
| [20:59:00] | simon_c_home: | SlicerDicer-: Sorry, I may be being thick. ;-) |
| [21:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | simon_c_home: its this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2 |
| [21:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont use fedora but I am asking around for a friend hehe |
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| [21:01:00] | simon_c_home: | SlicerDicer-: Ahhhhh. Sorry. no idea |
| [21:01:00] | Jasper: | why would deinterlacing make it look better on a normal tv? |
| [21:01:00] | whyz: | it wouldn't |
| [21:01:00] | drdaz: | heh |
| [21:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | simon_c_home: it has the ability to speed up transcoding by quite a large amount :) |
| [21:02:00] | Chutt: | because you can't guarantee that the fields are going to match up to the tv's |
| [21:02:00] | simon_c_home: | hummm. I could do with finding out if the suse RPMs for transcoding include that then. it's *very* slow on my systems. |
| [21:03:00] | chuckyp: | What do you need to know about fedora? |
| [21:03:00] | drdaz: | everything plz :p |
| [21:03:00] | chuckyp: | lol |
| [21:03:00] | Jasper: | Juski_ it works after reboot |
| [21:03:00] | Jasper: | gives me around 20% cpu unload |
| [21:03:00] | Jasper: | is that a normal amount? |
| [21:05:00] | Merlin83b2: | Hey Juski_, we alloweed to swear around here? |
| [21:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | chuckyp: where to locate sse2 enabled RPM's |
| [21:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Merlin83b: shit no ;-) |
| [21:05:00] | ** SlicerDicer- ducks ** | |
| [21:05:00] | Merlin83b2: | In that case... Fuckers. |
| [21:05:00] | laga: | hell, yeah. :) |
| [21:06:00] | Jasper: | laga there was something with the new drivers making the cpu load high? |
| [21:06:00] | Merlin83b2: | When I order a system with 256MB RAM, I expect it to have 256MB, not 96MB. |
| [21:06:00] | laga: | Jasper: yep. 7676 is teh win. |
| [21:06:00] | Merlin83b2: | See, I didn't think to check that. |
| [21:06:00] | chuckyp: | SlicerDicer-, You can use yum to specify version, arch everything. |
| [21:06:00] | Merlin83b2: | Been worrying over why my new box won't do it's stuff. 96MB isn't enough to run MythTV, in case anyone had thought if trying it. |
| [21:06:00] | drdaz: | erm wow @ Chromakey OSD |
| [21:06:00] | drdaz: | :-O |
| [21:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | chuckyp: yum will allow you to get SSE2 enabled? |
| [21:07:00] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, Chromakey is lovely |
| [21:07:00] | drdaz: | thats.. astounding! |
| [21:07:00] | Jasper: | laga I'm scared to reinstall the older ones :( |
| [21:07:00] | drdaz: | holy crap!! |
| [21:07:00] | laga: | Jasper: get a backup ;) |
| [21:07:00] | Jasper: | how?: |
| [21:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean say I wanted a SSE2 enabled transcode chuckyp how would I go about using yum to do that? |
| [21:07:00] | laga: | Jasper: tar? ;) |
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| [21:07:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: Acronis? |
| [21:07:00] | Jasper: | tar what? |
| [21:08:00] | chuckyp: | SlicerDicer-, what are you trying to do exactly? |
| [21:08:00] | drdaz: | laga: thanks for getting me looking @ that Chromakey stuff... :-o |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | Jasper: gee, c'mon, google or something ;) |
| [21:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tar and feather!!! /me bangs the drums and says lets have ourselfs a hangin! |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | drdaz: hehe |
| [21:08:00] | SimonTemplar: | slicerdicer: lol |
| [21:08:00] | chuckyp: | SlicerDicer-, are you just trying to install stuff compiled for 64? |
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| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | I'm not untarring ;.. |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | unmerge :P |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | even |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | gonna try first with tv-out |
| [21:09:00] | SimonTemplar: | slicerdicer: just use gentoo and compile amd64 ;) |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | I'm so happy xvmc works at last |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [21:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | chuckyp: well its not me but when I enable SSE2 on my cpu it speeds up the transcodes by quite a bit by using that instruction set now I use gentoo so its very easy to do that. A guy I know uses fedora and I cannot figure it out other than compiling it |
| [21:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SimonTemplar: read my last statement ;-) |
| [21:09:00] | Jasper: | at last we will have revenge :P |
| [21:09:00] | SimonTemplar: | slicerdicer: just did ;) |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: have him compile it then ;) |
| [21:10:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: You make me curious about xvmc too |
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| [21:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so yeah I was trying to figure out a way to make it easy for him without having to compile |
| [21:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but if he has to ohh well I can tell him how to do it heh |
| [21:10:00] | Jasper: | SimonTemplar good luck |
| [21:10:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [21:11:00] | chuckyp: | SlicerDicer-, I take it you want to install mythtv via yum install mythtv-suite? |
| [21:11:00] | chuckyp: | SlicerDicer-, you can add an arch option on the yum command. |
| [21:11:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: Not sure if I gonna change my setup was very difficult to get my dvb card working |
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| [21:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | chuckyp: SSE2 is not arch dependent. |
| [21:11:00] | Jasper: | trust me xvmc is harder |
| [21:11:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [21:11:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: Have you got dvb? |
| [21:12:00] | drdaz: | only thing with chromakey is that you dont get the transparency effects on the OSD... thats not exactly a problem tho |
| [21:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SimonTemplar: well anyway to give you a idea my AMD64 without SSE2 enabled is as slow as a 1.4ghz with MMX enabled on transcoding LOL! so yeah its worth it ;-) at least in my mind |
| [21:12:00] | Chutt: | or working on newer cards |
| [21:12:00] | SimonTemplar: | SlicerDicer: I understand I've got the same setup ;) |
| [21:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SimonTemplar: this is why I love gentoo its so easy to do this stuff hehe |
| [21:13:00] | chuckyp: | SlicerDicer-, you will most likely have to compile yourself. |
| [21:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [21:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am guessing that |
| [21:13:00] | SimonTemplar: | Slicerdicer: yeah same with me |
| [21:13:00] | chuckyp: | SlicerDicer-, compile mythtv yourself that is. |
| [21:14:00] | SimonTemplar: | SlicerDicer: I've got my mythbox since last saterday and loving it! |
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| [21:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SimonTemplar: I have been running it for over a year :) |
| [21:14:00] | SimonTemplar: | Nice :D |
| [21:15:00] | SimonTemplar: | SlicerDicer: I |
| [21:15:00] | SimonTemplar: | 've built it in this case: http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2614&p=2 |
| [21:16:00] | SimonTemplar: | SlicerDicer: this is a better link http://www.pc-experience.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=19493 |
| [21:18:00] | Arkkis: | arrr, I'm a bit rusty with gentoo, how can I see what packages depend on a package? |
| [21:18:00] | laga: | Arkkis: emerge -pv |
| [21:18:00] | Jasper: | laga I found out that it doesn't work with nvagp |
| [21:18:00] | SimonTemplar: | Arkkis: and online www.gentoo-portage.com |
| [21:18:00] | Jasper: | I have to use nvagp 0 |
| [21:18:00] | Arkkis: | laga, no, I mean when I'm considering uninstalling a package |
| [21:18:00] | Jasper: | to disable agp |
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| [21:19:00] | Jasper: | but I have to intsall agpgart |
| [21:19:00] | Arkkis: | laga, like, I want to see what breaks if I remove something |
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| [21:20:00] | Jasper: | I'm never gonna format this pc again |
| [21:20:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [21:20:00] | Jasper: | though I'm gonna go try and go back to the old drivers |
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| [21:20:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: good luck! |
| [21:21:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: You can always try ghost or acronis ;) |
| [21:21:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: That's what I always do |
| [21:21:00] | Jasper: | nah |
| [21:21:00] | Jasper: | I like risks |
| [21:21:00] | Jasper: | I'm just gonna delete it |
| [21:21:00] | Jasper: | 8) |
| [21:21:00] | wakko: | hey guys – have any of you used mythtvosd? |
| [21:22:00] | Cardoe: | so... who's got an Xbox MythTV frontend? |
| [21:22:00] | chuckyp: | Cardoe, My friend has one |
| [21:22:00] | AranC23: | alas, I do |
| [21:22:00] | AranC23: | actually I shouldn't complain it still looks better than any SD frontend I've ever had |
| [21:22:00] | simon_c_home: | Whos the best person to contact about adding a binary download location to the "web_links/precompiled packages" page ? |
| [21:22:00] | SimonTemplar: | Arkkis: go to www.gentoo-portage.com |
| [21:22:00] | wakko: | I think I have the syntax wrong for mythtvosd |
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| [21:23:00] | wakko: | I type – mythtvosd --template=scroller --scroller_text="message" |
| [21:23:00] | SimonTemplar: | Arkkis: and go to the package you want to delete, then click reverse dependencies |
| [21:23:00] | Cardoe: | AranC23: does it work with Xbox games still? |
| [21:23:00] | wakko: | and I just get "%scroll_text%" on the screen |
| [21:23:00] | Arkkis: | SimonTemplar, gentoo-portage.com will not tell me what packages on my computer the one is depending on, will it? |
| [21:23:00] | Cardoe: | chuckyp: same question to you |
| [21:23:00] | Cardoe: | Arkkis: equery depends package |
| [21:23:00] | AranC23: | Cardoe: yes it's "soft" modded, which means you can't use Xbox live but it otherwise works fine for games |
| [21:24:00] | Arkkis: | Cardoe, thanks, that's what I was looking for |
| [21:24:00] | Chutt: | wakko, because the option name is 'scroll_text', not 'scroller_text'. |
| [21:24:00] | wakko: | oh thanks |
| [21:24:00] | Cardoe: | AranC23: can I /query you? |
| [21:24:00] | chuckyp: | Cardoe, He's not using it through the linux install like all the tutorials online are. He's using evox dash I believe with Xbox media center. Then he found a frontend for Xbox media center for myth. |
| [21:24:00] | chuckyp: | Cardoe, So yes he can still play games using it that way. |
| [21:25:00] | chuckyp: | Cardoe, His frontend is just an application he launches from the dash. |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | chuckyp: that's basically what I wanna do |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | I don't wanna install all of Linux |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | Cardoe: BTW, 0.19-r1 works fine for me. the fronted, that is |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | and nuke the drive.. etc etc |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | laga: cool |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | frontend* |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | laga: new one gonna come out soon |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | Cardoe: haven't done much testing, though :) |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | again |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | Cardoe: nice |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | tonight after work |
| [21:25:00] | Cardoe: | more of Chutt's livetv fixes |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | sounds good. make sure to let me know so i can update this box ;) |
| [21:26:00] | chuckyp: | Cardoe, are you talking about XBMC myth? |
| [21:26:00] | AranC23: | cardoe: sure,, I don't know what that is but feel free :) |
| [21:26:00] | Cardoe: | chuckyp: yeah I didn't know such thing exists |
| [21:27:00] | chuckyp: | Cardoe, the only thing to watch for is there is a problem with livetv on .19 using XBMC myth right now. Just hasn't been updated yet. |
| [21:27:00] | chuckyp: | laga, .19-r1???? What software are you talking about? |
| [21:28:00] | Cardoe: | chuckyp: gentoo |
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| [21:28:00] | ** laga snickers ** | |
| [21:28:00] | chuckyp: | so confused. |
| [21:29:00] | chuckyp: | Cardoe, But yes there are many ways you can go about getting a frontend on the xbox. |
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| [21:30:00] | Jasper: | laga you think I have to recompile mythtv if I downgrade the driver? |
| [21:30:00] | bagleabuse: | chuckyp what ways do you think are best? |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | Jasper: maybe ;) shouldn't be necessary, though. i'm not sure how all this library stuff fits together. it's supposed to work without recompiling, i think |
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| [21:31:00] | Ediehow: | you know, myth works surprisingly well on a 54mb/s network |
| [21:31:00] | Ediehow: | wireless |
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| [21:32:00] | Jasper: | I'm gonna emerge -N world |
| [21:32:00] | Cardoe: | he look Chutt... it's another QT fan boy! |
| [21:32:00] | ** Cardoe points at ivor ** | |
| [21:33:00] | Cardoe: | hi ivor... just messing around |
| [21:33:00] | bagleabuse: | I have a question. Why hasn't someone just recompiled mythtv for windows? |
| [21:33:00] | bagleabuse: | if its built on QT3 then it should work right? |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, go for it |
| [21:34:00] | ** stuarta bwaaahaaaahaaaaa ** | |
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| [21:34:00] | dtm: | Ediehow: being surprised over playing broadcast video on a 54Mbps network is not quite a response i'd expect |
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| [21:34:00] | test34: | I get warnings while compiling mythtv -> distcc[16701] (dcc_get_hostlist) Warning: no hostlist is set; can't distribute work and distcc[16701] (dcc_build_somewhere) Warning: failed to distribute, running locally instead. Whats wrong? |
| [21:34:00] | bagleabuse: | kormoc I want to know if there are any pitfalls before I devote any time to it |
| [21:34:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: what kind of setup do you have? |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | test34, your distcc isn't setup right |
| [21:35:00] | SimonTemplar: | Jasper: Analog or dvb? |
| [21:35:00] | test34: | Beirdo, ok I need to set it up so it only uses one computer to compile then ? |
| [21:35:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, until recently (not even sure if it is now) qt wasn't free for windows. |
| [21:35:00] | Ediehow: | dtm: i was told it wouldn't work well |
| [21:35:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, qt3 that is |
| [21:35:00] | bagleabuse: | I have a copy of qt3... |
| [21:35:00] | drdaz: | oO |
| [21:35:00] | dtm: | Ediehow: you were told 54Mbps wasn't fast enough to play 6 or 10Mbps video? |
| [21:36:00] | Ediehow: | dtm: it worked on 11mb/s until i paused/unupaused or changed chan |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | if you are only using one computer, don't use distcc, it's pointless |
| [21:36:00] | Ediehow: | dtm: look at posts about wireless on mythtvtalk.com |
| [21:36:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, it wasn't offical for awhile at least. |
| [21:36:00] | dtm: | Ediehow: those posts will most likely say that they didn't have a 54Mbps network ^_^ |
| [21:36:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, see http://qtwin.sourceforge.net/qt3-win32/index.php |
| [21:36:00] | bagleabuse: | I paid for it a long time ago |
| [21:37:00] | Ediehow: | dtm: no, it said even in those cases. something about instability on wireless or something |
| [21:37:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, sure, but you can't redistrubute it |
| [21:37:00] | bagleabuse: | does that break gpl... |
| [21:37:00] | Ediehow: | dtm: my laptop didn't support usb 2, but i bought a pcmcia card which does, and i tried myth with it and it worked well. |
| [21:37:00] | test34: | export DISTCC_HOSTS='localhost' fixed it |
| [21:37:00] | bagleabuse: | ssh runs on port 22 right? |
| [21:37:00] | Ediehow: | dtm: shouldn't technically a 11mb/s network be sufficient? |
| [21:37:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, correct |
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| [21:37:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, as for breaking gpl, the windows version of qt wasn't gpled |
| [21:37:00] | bagleabuse: | trying to setup ssh remotely |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | test34, yeah, but maybe you should just uninstall distcc if you are only ever going to use one computer |
| [21:38:00] | dtm: | Ediehow: yeah if it is indeed 11Mbps |
| [21:38:00] | bagleabuse: | if I compiled it off of winqt or that project would that be gpl |
| [21:38:00] | drdaz: | bagleabuse: if u manage to get it running in windows.. I'd be your best friend if u sent me a copy :p |
| [21:38:00] | Cardoe: | test34: yes it fixed it but now slowed down your compile still |
| [21:38:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, sure |
| [21:38:00] | test34: | Beirdo, thats an idea |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | Ediehow, 11Mbps half-duplex is about 6Mbps usable on average if you are lucky |
| [21:38:00] | dtm: | Ediehow: mine doesn't either. i use a WinTV PVR USB2 at USB 1.1 and it rules. |
| [21:38:00] | test34: | Cardoe, ok |
| [21:38:00] | Cardoe: | Ediehow: no.. it's not |
| [21:38:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: b was 6? |
| [21:38:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: what crack pipe were you chewing on? |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | it's 11Mbps half-duplex |
| [21:38:00] | Ediehow: | dtm: you can get a pcmcia card for usb 2.0 for $12 |
| [21:39:00] | bagleabuse: | I don't want any legal issues though. If I submitted it to chutt then would I be breaking any rules? |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | which gives about 6Mbps on average |
| [21:39:00] | Ediehow: | my wireless thingie is usb 2.0 |
| [21:39:00] | dtm: | Ediehow: noted. |
| [21:39:00] | dtm: | Ediehow: $12 for real? wow |
| [21:39:00] | Ediehow: | yessir, i just bought one |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | don't mock my queuing theory training until you've learned it :) |
| [21:39:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, if you use the gpl'ed port, not at all |
| [21:39:00] | bagleabuse: | but if I compile it with the version I paid for is it breaking gpl? |
| [21:40:00] | bagleabuse: | I wouldn't be selling it... |
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| [21:40:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: 6 if they were touching antenna to antenna |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [21:40:00] | bagleabuse: | why does that sound like a bad porno line |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, on a good day, full bandwidth will average around 6 |
| [21:40:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, I donno. I would think so, as you couldn't provide the full source on demand. |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | about the same as using thinnet ethernet (10-base2 |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | ) |
| [21:41:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga: still thanks for the modeline, it is so much better now! |
| [21:41:00] | Ediehow: | i wonder if there's any way to get my MM keys recognized on my laptop if xev shows nothing on press |
| [21:41:00] | bagleabuse: | why not, just link to the mythtv.org page? |
| [21:41:00] | praet: | whats the clearest way to print out a directory structure to a novice? |
| [21:41:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, you can't give out the qt source code |
| [21:41:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, which is linked into the myth binary |
| [21:41:00] | Cardoe: | praet: ls -l ? |
| [21:41:00] | bagleabuse: | so... if you compile a program in .net it cant be gpl because you don't have full access to everything... or VB or delphi? |
| [21:42:00] | Cardoe: | praet: ls -lh ? |
| [21:42:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, tis how the gpl is worded I beleive, aye |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | if you use .net, it's not myth-related :) |
| [21:42:00] | praet: | ls -l gives too much info |
| [21:42:00] | bagleabuse: | yeah, but I am just saying in general |
| [21:42:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, it's why people call it the viral licence, cause it 'infects' everything it touches |
| [21:42:00] | bagleabuse: | thats strange... |
| [21:43:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: really? wow :) |
| [21:43:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga: yeah, much less blocks |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | Ediehow: regarding these multimedia keys..shut down acpid and do a 'cat /proc/acpi/event'. hit one the keys then |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: yay :) |
| [21:44:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga: Tomorrow I need to tackle my last tv problem |
| [21:44:00] | Ediehow: | laga: i heard it was more a kernel issue, is that true? |
| [21:44:00] | Ediehow: | if they don't output anything? |
| [21:44:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga: I am missing a lot channels (dvb) |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: what's that? |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | SimonTemplar: oh, heh. sorry, cn't help ya there |
| [21:45:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga: the signal isn't coming through for a certain range |
| [21:45:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga: yeah I know, there is only one guy who can help me : |
| [21:45:00] | SimonTemplar: | D |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | Ediehow: not necessarily. these keys probably use a different way of sending events – acpi. |
| [21:45:00] | SimonTemplar: | laga: and that is the developer of the driver |
| [21:45:00] | Ediehow: | oic |
| [21:45:00] | Ediehow: | should that reveal their keycode? |
| [21:45:00] | Ediehow: | cuz 2 of them work, the other 3 don't, at least, with xev. |
| [21:46:00] | bagleabuse: | so if I ported the code to QT4 then would I be able to releease it? |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | Ediehow: not necessarily their keycode.. but you could map that event to a key then. ubuntu ships with an utility called acpi_fakekey )or somethign like that) that takes care of that |
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| [21:47:00] | Ediehow: | oic |
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| [21:50:00] | Brov: | where is my DVD? |
| [21:50:00] | Brov: | do i have to add a line to fstab |
| [21:50:00] | bagleabuse: | okay... people of the channel, I have a very strange problem. My tuner cards (PVR150/250) can't tune to anything other than channel 4 |
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| [21:51:00] | chuckyp: | Brov, what do you want to do mount a dvd? |
| [21:51:00] | bagleabuse: | brov look in /mnt |
| [21:51:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, what about using the ivtv-tune command to try to change channel? |
| [21:51:00] | Brov: | well so i can see a directory of it and play divs files off a dvd |
| [21:51:00] | bagleabuse: | it may already be mounted |
| [21:51:00] | Brov: | divx |
| [21:51:00] | Brov: | well yer it plays a dvd fine in myth |
| [21:52:00] | mythmonkey: | are there any devs who frequent this channel? |
| [21:52:00] | Brov: | but is it automounted by x or something |
| [21:52:00] | bagleabuse: | "/dev/video0: 175.250 MHz (Signal Detected)" |
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| [21:53:00] | bagleabuse: | ooh... ivtv-tune -l gives me a few channels that start T## what are they? |
| [21:53:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, Where are you at? US or foreign? |
| [21:53:00] | bagleabuse: | US |
| [21:54:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, using cable then I assume? |
| [21:54:00] | bagleabuse: | indeed |
| [21:54:00] | Brov: | there is /mnt/auto /mnt/cdrom / mnt/floppy but they all appear empty |
| [21:54:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, So in myth if you can only select channel 4? |
| [21:55:00] | bagleabuse: | duno, helping my dad and he just left |
| [21:55:00] | bagleabuse: | he said it cant change channels |
| [21:55:00] | bagleabuse: | thats all |
| [21:55:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, Okay well try to change channels first just to confirm what he said. |
| [21:55:00] | bagleabuse: | itvt-tune -c=7 was sucessfully |
| [21:55:00] | bagleabuse: | sucessfull |
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| [21:56:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, I would double check your mythtv-setup for capture cards and their video sources. |
| [21:56:00] | bagleabuse: | whatever, I'll deal with it later |
| [21:56:00] | bagleabuse: | thanks for help though |
| [21:56:00] | chuckyp: | np |
| [21:56:00] | Brov: | myth is playing a dvd now, surely somehwhere is a folder that displays the dvd contents that i can dir |
| [21:56:00] | bagleabuse: | do you know what the T## channels are? |
| [21:56:00] | bagleabuse: | brov go to your DVD configuration settings |
| [21:56:00] | bagleabuse: | it will be listed in there |
| [21:56:00] | chuckyp: | Brov, /mnt/cdrom then? |
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| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | myth doesn't mount a dvd to play it. |
| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | so, no, there isn't a place like that. |
| [21:57:00] | bagleabuse: | really? |
| [21:57:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, nah don't know what that T## stuff would be |
| [21:57:00] | bagleabuse: | Chutt are you the dev? |
| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
| [21:57:00] | bagleabuse: | would you mind if I ported mythtv to windows? |
| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | not at all |
| [21:58:00] | SimonTemplar: | lol |
| [21:58:00] | bagleabuse: | do you have an ETA for QT4 compattible code? |
| [21:58:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, there is a windows port mythwin |
| [21:58:00] | Chutt: | 3 years. |
| [21:58:00] | bagleabuse: | lol |
| [21:58:00] | Chutt: | chuckyp, that's not a windows port. |
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| [21:58:00] | bagleabuse: | chuckyp that one sucks |
| [21:58:00] | chuckyp: | err.... frontend |
| [21:58:00] | bagleabuse: | only works with .15< |
| [21:58:00] | ** drdaz agrees ** | |
| [21:58:00] | mythmonkey: | hi Chutt, I think I maybe have a bug with MythTV, done quite a bit of testing with Juski today, would you mind having a look at a post I made to the users list? |
| [21:58:00] | mythmonkey: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . iew_threaded |
| [21:58:00] | Chutt: | yes, i wuold |
| [21:59:00] | bagleabuse: | chutt are you having a bad day? |
| [21:59:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [21:59:00] | bagleabuse: | would you like a back massage ;) |
| [22:00:00] | ** drdaz would ** | |
| [22:00:00] | Brov: | my dvd appears at sr0, do i need to add a line to fstab to mount it? |
| [22:00:00] | ** laga offers beer ** | |
| [22:00:00] | ** stuarta beer me! ** | |
| [22:00:00] | mythmonkey: | Chutt, do you know any devs who are interested in bug squashing then? |
| [22:00:00] | bagleabuse: | ooh... chutt do you know what the channel T10 is? |
| [22:00:00] | bagleabuse: | mythmonkey I think he is THE dev |
| [22:00:00] | mythmonkey: | what there's only one? |
| [22:01:00] | mythmonkey: | god help me then |
| [22:01:00] | drdaz: | There can be only one. |
| [22:01:00] | Chutt: | mythmonkey, you have to make sure it's a myth bug, first. |
| [22:01:00] | Chutt: | you haven't done that, as far as i can tell. |
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| [22:01:00] | Chutt: | bagleabuse, what's channel 3? |
| [22:01:00] | mythmonkey: | yes which is why i asked if you could take a look at the post. what do i need to do extra? |
| [22:01:00] | rjune: | mythmonkey: not to be rude, but have you looked in the mirror for a dev |
| [22:02:00] | rjune: | Chutt: is really big on us helping ourselves |
| [22:02:00] | mythmonkey: | i'm not a programmer |
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| [22:02:00] | bagleabuse: | i'm sorry Chutt, I don't understand. Channel 3 is 61.250 aka upn... |
| [22:02:00] | drcphd: | What's the best way to output on multiple monitors (TVs)? I have an FX 5500 |
| [22:02:00] | Chutt: | you need to be a programmer to try and record audio from your tv card? |
| [22:02:00] | Chutt: | outside of myth? |
| [22:02:00] | Jasper: | is there any advantage of de-interlacing when watching on a tv? |
| [22:02:00] | Chutt: | bagleabuse, same thing as T10. |
| [22:03:00] | drdaz: | Jasper: yep |
| [22:03:00] | bagleabuse: | but the frequencies are different... |
| [22:03:00] | Brov: | deinterlacing is good for me (smoother) |
| [22:03:00] | Jasper: | what drdaz ? |
| [22:03:00] | drdaz: | it just looks better :) |
| [22:03:00] | Jasper: | hmm k |
| [22:03:00] | drdaz: | smoother indeed |
| [22:03:00] | mythmonkey: | thats what you want me to try? |
| [22:03:00] | bagleabuse: | T10 is 26.250 and channel 3 is 61.250... |
| [22:03:00] | Chutt: | they're different? |
| [22:03:00] | Chutt: | so? |
| [22:03:00] | bagleabuse: | they are the same thing...?? |
| [22:03:00] | Chutt: | um |
| [22:03:00] | Brov: | look on a news channel with a scrolling news bar at bottom for smoothness on deint |
| [22:03:00] | Chutt: | it's a channel. |
| [22:04:00] | Chutt: | 3 is a channel |
| [22:04:00] | Chutt: | T10 is a channel |
| [22:04:00] | bagleabuse: | yeah, but is it digital or something? |
| [22:04:00] | Chutt: | uh, no? |
| [22:04:00] | bagleabuse: | why does it get a T then? |
| [22:04:00] | Chutt: | because it does |
| [22:04:00] | drdaz: | bob deint = teh win |
| [22:04:00] | bagleabuse: | thats as good an explination as any... |
| [22:04:00] | Jasper: | oh chutt I had a question :P I was wondering if it's possible to make a live-tv recording....so like the buffer...if you switch channel that gets saved...if you want to safe that buffer later...is that psosible? |
| [22:04:00] | Jasper: | through mythweb? |
| [22:04:00] | Brov: | to utput on multiple monitors on fx5500 you need to edit XF86Config and add twinview stuff |
| [22:04:00] | Chutt: | Jasper, not through mythweb |
| [22:04:00] | Chutt: | mythfrontend, sure, all you have to do is tell it to keep it |
| [22:05:00] | Jasper: | how do you do that in mythfrontend? |
| [22:05:00] | Chutt: | disable it from autoexpiring |
| [22:05:00] | bagleabuse: | push r |
| [22:05:00] | Chutt: | or togglerecord while in livetv |
| [22:05:00] | Jasper: | but where do you see the recording? |
| [22:05:00] | Chutt: | in the watch recordings menu? |
| [22:05:00] | Jasper: | because it aint in the libary |
| [22:05:00] | galorin: | I've checked through SVN tickets, and can't tell if the issue I'm having is resolved or not. It looks to be the one documented in ticket 1099 or 819 (which is marked as fixed 2 months ago). when scanning valid mplexes, it gets a lock but states no tables found. |
| [22:05:00] | Jasper: | are livetv recordings there? |
| [22:05:00] | Chutt: | sure it is, you just have to switch to the livetv group |
| [22:05:00] | chuckyp: | I thought of a question. Is there a way while watching tv to start recording what you are whatching and then stop that recording without recording the remainder of the show. i.e. watching mtv or something and just record one music video for later viewing? |
| [22:05:00] | Jasper: | hmm k |
| [22:05:00] | bagleabuse: | Chutt, I love you... can I bear your children? |
| [22:05:00] | Jasper: | I'll check it out |
| [22:05:00] | Jasper: | didn't see it last time. |
| [22:06:00] | Brov: | so what is best way to play divx files from a dvd in mythtv? |
| [22:06:00] | bagleabuse: | Brov are they data files or encoded to mpeg2? |
| [22:06:00] | Brov: | no data files |
| [22:06:00] | Agrajag-: | chuckyp: it records what you're watching already. |
| [22:06:00] | Brov: | xvid/divx etc etc |
| [22:06:00] | bagleabuse: | Brov I would mount the folder to a specific location (/mnt/cdrom) then add that to the list for mythvideo |
| [22:07:00] | Brov: | i have quite a few dvd's with say 6 divx files on |
| [22:07:00] | chuckyp: | Agrajag-, I understand the live tv concept that it is recording what you are watching but like in the example I want to record one video. not the entire block of videos |
| [22:07:00] | Brov: | mount the folder? but its a dvd so will be diff everytimne i insert a new disc in |
| [22:08:00] | bagleabuse: | yeah... |
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| [22:08:00] | bagleabuse: | I don't see the problem its like telling the program to look in D: in windows |
| [22:08:00] | bagleabuse: | it will change.. sometimes it will be empty but it will still work |
| [22:08:00] | Brov: | ideally myth would detect a dvd with divx files, create a temp playlist and pass that to mplayer and skip buttons on remote would move between them |
| [22:08:00] | drdaz: | bagleabuse: you could symlink to mythvideo's directory too couldnt you? |
| [22:08:00] | bagleabuse: | yes thats another option |
| [22:09:00] | bagleabuse: | its just as easy |
| [22:09:00] | bagleabuse: | I prefer adding ;/mnt/cdrom |
| [22:09:00] | drdaz: | hmm I think I'll give it a bash |
| [22:09:00] | bagleabuse: | to the end of the thingy |
| [22:09:00] | drdaz: | thingy? |
| [22:09:00] | bagleabuse: | sorry |
| [22:09:00] | drdaz: | :p |
| [22:09:00] | chuckyp: | Agrajag-, Do you understand what I mean? |
| [22:09:00] | bagleabuse: | mythvideo settings / folder to load from |
| [22:09:00] | Brov: | but i dont see where the dvd is mounted or even if it is? should there be an fstab entry for it? |
| [22:09:00] | bagleabuse: | there are other ways of mounting |
| [22:09:00] | bagleabuse: | like.... the mount command |
| [22:10:00] | chuckyp: | So basically is there a way of recording part of a show and not the whole thing? |
| [22:10:00] | Agrajag-: | chuckyp: yes, and i think you're stupid – it's already recording it – if you want something from the recording, go edit the recording and transcode |
| [22:10:00] | chuckyp: | Agrajag-, I have one tuner is the issue |
| [22:10:00] | Agrajag-: | so? |
| [22:10:00] | bagleabuse: | Agrajag- lets be nice here... |
| [22:10:00] | chuckyp: | Agrajag-, So upon exiting livetv it will no longer record the channel I was watching. |
| [22:10:00] | bagleabuse: | were a loving community of nerds.... |
| [22:10:00] | chuckyp: | lol |
| [22:11:00] | Brov: | yer i can mount it using 'mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /cdrom' but how do i automount i on boot |
| [22:11:00] | Agrajag-: | no, most of you are retarded |
| [22:11:00] | bagleabuse: | Agrajag- wow.... |
| [22:11:00] | bagleabuse: | just wow |
| [22:11:00] | drdaz: | thing is... if there's a folder your optical disks get mounted to in fstab... cant u just symlink that |
| [22:11:00] | macroexp: | heh |
| [22:11:00] | drdaz: | lmao.. |
| [22:11:00] | drdaz: | somebody had their cage rattled today it seems oO |
| [22:11:00] | macroexp: | all must bow to Agrajag- |
| [22:11:00] | ** drdaz boes ** | |
| [22:12:00] | drdaz: | bows* |
| [22:12:00] | chuckyp: | Okay well done asking Agrajag then |
| [22:12:00] | bagleabuse: | "/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0" is my line in the fstab file |
| [22:12:00] | drdaz: | right.. |
| [22:12:00] | bagleabuse: | so you would do "/dev/sr0 /folder/to/mount/to udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0" |
| [22:12:00] | Agrajag-: | chuckyp: what do you mean it will no longer record the channel you were watching? the recording of what you were watching is still there |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | chuckyp: it will remain there until it autoexpires |
| [22:13:00] | chuckyp: | Agrajag-, No it deletes live tv buffer on exit |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | uhh no |
| [22:13:00] | bagleabuse: | Agrajag- you know how it caches the live tv.... |
| [22:13:00] | Brov: | ah bagelabuse thanks i will try : /dev/sr0 /cdrom udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
| [22:13:00] | ** bagleabuse inserts an obligatory who is the stupid one now to Agrajag- ** | |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | what version are you using? |
| [22:13:00] | bagleabuse: | Brov don't reboot |
| [22:13:00] | chuckyp: | .18 |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | well use 0.19 |
| [22:13:00] | bagleabuse: | save it and type "mount -a" |
| [22:14:00] | chuckyp: | lol |
| [22:14:00] | chuckyp: | Agrajag-, I don't believe .19 saves live tv buffer either. |
| [22:14:00] | Brov: | ALSO though /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd softlink to /dev/hdb – should i also change them to instead softlink to /cdrom |
| [22:14:00] | macroexp: | in .18 you can hit record while watching live tv, when done go to recordings and "stop recording" |
| [22:14:00] | Agrajag-: | yes it does |
| [22:14:00] | bagleabuse: | um... yeah it does |
| [22:14:00] | macroexp: | it's some extra button presses but i've used it to record small sections of shows |
| [22:14:00] | bagleabuse: | chuckyp yeah its a BIG rewrite thingy... |
| [22:15:00] | bagleabuse: | "LiveTV rewritten to support saving buffered content while watching" http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.19 |
| [22:15:00] | chuckyp: | macroexp, ty |
| [22:15:00] | Brov: | yer I used mount -a before when setting up smb links to my windows folders in fstab – thanks i will go try it |
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| [22:15:00] | bagleabuse: | i love smb links in fstab |
| [22:15:00] | chuckyp: | Brov, wouldn't you want it to auto mount though? THen just symlink it. |
| [22:16:00] | bagleabuse: | chuckyp I think he is talking bout samba |
| [22:16:00] | chuckyp: | ahh |
| [22:16:00] | bagleabuse: | smb = samba and symbolic |
| [22:16:00] | drdaz: | the trouble with mounting optical disks tho is that you have to unmount them to eject them right? |
| [22:16:00] | bagleabuse: | as a demonstration go to smb:\\username:password@ipofwindowsbox\dirtogoto |
| [22:16:00] | chuckyp: | bagleabuse, I was talking about his divx dvd issue. |
| [22:16:00] | bagleabuse: | ohh... |
| [22:17:00] | bagleabuse: | drdaz I don't... I don't have problems |
| [22:17:00] | drdaz: | hmm ok |
| [22:17:00] | Brov: | chuckyp – symlink to what ? |
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| [22:17:00] | Brov: | sorry the samba was an aside that was onde ages ago and works fine |
| [22:17:00] | bagleabuse: | aaw... |
| [22:17:00] | bagleabuse: | i love samba... its sexy |
| [22:18:00] | bagleabuse: | anyone played with 4 yet? |
| [22:18:00] | Brov: | drdaz: are you saying i will not be able to eject the dvd if i mount it |
| [22:18:00] | bagleabuse: | brov thats not true necessarily |
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| [22:19:00] | drdaz: | its a problem I have that I'd love to get rid of tbh |
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| [22:20:00] | bagleabuse: | drdaz what does it do when you eject |
| [22:21:00] | drdaz: | nada |
| [22:21:00] | drdaz: | heh |
| [22:21:00] | chuckyp: | drdaz, even if you are using auto mount? |
| [22:21:00] | bagleabuse: | nothing... |
| [22:21:00] | drdaz: | I only play video DVDs atm... for exactly this reason |
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| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | bagleabuse, nfs is much nicer then samba/smb :) |
| [22:22:00] | drdaz: | I'll try bagleabuse's options tho... see if they work |
| [22:23:00] | Brov: | 'mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /cdrom' works BUT /dev/sr0 '/cdrom udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0' in fstab then mount -a doesnt seem to do anything |
| [22:23:00] | eidolon: | hi folks, i'm trying to get my mythtv box back up after doing... something... i don't quite understand :) but it broke a lot of things. I've gone back to mythtv-setup, cleared card and channel information, reinitted the card, havne't done the zap2it subsscription yet... when i go to watch tv, i get just static. like it's tuned slightly off from the correct channel. |
| [22:23:00] | bagleabuse: | I love in a windows world |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | Brov, noauto tells mount -a to not mount it |
| [22:23:00] | drdaz: | oO |
| [22:23:00] | eidolon: | is there a channel offset or something i misconfigured? this was the problem i had before i cleared all my settings – i set an offset... or something :( |
| [22:23:00] | eidolon: | (xref: cable tv, Comcast Cable in the us northeast. |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | Brov, try mount /cdrom |
| [22:24:00] | eidolon: | do i have to have a zap2it subscription, and mythfilldatabase done to just tune channels? |
| [22:24:00] | Brov: | ok i put auto in fstab and it now works |
| [22:24:00] | kormoc: | Brov, auto will try to mount it on ever boot as well |
| [22:25:00] | kormoc: | *every |
| [22:25:00] | bagleabuse: | yeah it will just say "cant boot /cdrom" on boot now |
| [22:25:00] | bagleabuse: | but it will keep going |
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| [22:25:00] | kormoc: | and you'll still need to mount the device by hand anyway |
| [22:25:00] | kormoc: | mount /cdrom works just as well |
| [22:26:00] | Brov: | the last thing re this I am unclear on is I have /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdb & /dev/dvd -> /dev/hdb should I ln -s them to point to /cdrom instead |
| [22:26:00] | kormoc: | Brov, no... |
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| [22:26:00] | kormoc: | Brov, /dev/hdb is a special 'file' known as a device. it's the raw data |
| [22:27:00] | kormoc: | Brov, when you mount it, you put the data though a filter, known as a filesystem to take that data and abstract it into files and what not |
| [22:27:00] | Brov: | should they point to sr0 instead of hdb then? |
| [22:27:00] | kormoc: | Brov, if it works. leave it alone, imho |
| [22:27:00] | Brov: | as sr0 is my dvd not hdb |
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| [22:27:00] | kormoc: | Brov, you sure? |
| [22:27:00] | drdaz: | is there any way of getting the optical drive to automount? |
| [22:28:00] | Brov: | Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| [22:28:00] | drdaz: | ... and still be able to play back video DVDs and the like |
| [22:28:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, there's a automount daemon that will automount on access of the mount point |
| [22:28:00] | drdaz: | ok.. how about a link to the mount point? :p |
| [22:28:00] | mythmonkey: | does anyone know if a .asoundrc is required for myth to work? |
| [22:28:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, so if you ls /mnt/cdrom, it will mount /mnt/cdrom and then continue the command. |
| [22:29:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, sure, the link only points to the mount point, so it'd work the same |
| [22:29:00] | drdaz: | hmm |
| [22:29:00] | kormoc: | mythmonkey, only if it's required for alsa output to wokr, and you tlel myth to use alsa |
| [22:29:00] | Brov: | hmmm since i mounted dvd i can no longer eject dvd so thats not gonna work |
| [22:29:00] | kormoc: | Brov, you now have to unmount it to eject it |
| [22:30:00] | DRC00L: | any of you play xvid movies in mplayer with subtitles ? |
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| [22:30:00] | kormoc: | Brov, welcome to linux, it's all manual. |
| [22:30:00] | Brov: | hmmm i wanted to be able to insert a dvd with 6 divx files on and play them in myth |
| [22:30:00] | mythmonkey: | kormoc; so if i have sound working in alsa, then i shouldn't need a .asoundrc? |
| [22:30:00] | kormoc: | mythmonkey, correct |
| [22:30:00] | macroexp: | make a script to unmount and eject, run it via ir remote button press |
| [22:30:00] | mythmonkey: | thanks kormoc |
| [22:30:00] | drdaz: | serious WAF killer this issue tbh |
| [22:30:00] | alex777: | I'm about to play an xvid encoded japanese movie and it has a .sub file (which contains the subtitles) |
| [22:31:00] | kormoc: | Brov, scripting or automountd would be your ways. |
| [22:31:00] | alex777: | and I'm doing it from MythVideo |
| [22:31:00] | alex777: | so will mplayer recognize the .sub file and display subs correctly ? |
| [22:31:00] | kormoc: | alex777, you'd need to tell them to use that .sub, via the command line likely, man videoplayer to see the options |
| [22:31:00] | Brov: | yer i have seen the MPEG4 cd script with knoppmyth but didnt get how it worked but now it makes more sense |
| [22:31:00] | alex777: | kormoc I see, thanks |
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| [22:32:00] | Juski_: | mythmonkey: get anywhere with that sound issue? |
| [22:33:00] | Juski_: | I've thought of something else it could be. there might be another 'mixer' device for your tv tuner's audio |
| [22:33:00] | mythmonkey: | nope Juski, I am just waiting till the gf stops watching Donnie Darko, then I am going to try and record anything from the TV card from the sound card as helpfully suggested a few minutes back |
| [22:34:00] | Juski_: | fairy snuff then |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | donnie darko is an awesome movie :) |
| [22:35:00] | Brov: | Hmmm i think the mud is clearing a little. the script does mount /cdrom, that gets picked up from /etc/fstab so i presume i change the cdrom mount in fstab to noauto so it DOESNT get mounted on reboot but only when i issue mount /cdrom |
| [22:35:00] | mythmonkey: | just got the directors cut free laga, i understand what's going on a little more now :) |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | mythmonkey: do you mean the director cut actually makes snese? |
| [22:36:00] | Juski_: | director's cut? pah. you mean it didn't make sense before? |
| [22:36:00] | mythmonkey: | sort of laga. there are still many questions |
| [22:36:00] | Juski_: | apparently in the new cut, the soundtrack helps a lot |
| [22:36:00] | ** kormoc owns the directors cut dvd ** | |
| [22:36:00] | mythmonkey: | Juski_: in some ways it made sense, but it helps more with the structure of the movie |
| [22:36:00] | Juski_: | ah ok |
| [22:37:00] | mythmonkey: | the interesting questions philosophically wise are still there, but i can now tick off a few things :) |
| [22:37:00] | kormoc: | Juski_, it's rather strightforward, a timeloop happened and we got to watch what happened in a tangent universe :P |
| [22:37:00] | Juski_: | I think I figured most of it out |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | kormoc: dammit, no spoilers ;) |
| [22:37:00] | mythmonkey: | lol |
| [22:37:00] | Juski_: | but then I'd had rather a lot to drink, maybe that helped |
| [22:38:00] | kormoc: | laga, hehe, sorry :P |
| [22:38:00] | ** kormoc timeloops back and wipes laga's memory ** | |
| [22:38:00] | Juski_: | jees man wth is myth recording now? I don't think it's stopped all night |
| [22:38:00] | mythmonkey: | I just worry about Donnie's sister in the non tangent universe now :-S |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | kormoc: owell, i was thinking that myself, but don't spoil my fun of watching it over and over again :) |
| [22:39:00] | Juski_: | oh another episode of 'cartmans mom is a dirty slut' – just what I need |
| [22:39:00] | kormoc: | laga, the trick is, is the tangent universe in donnie's mind, or is in reality? |
| [22:40:00] | mythmonkey: | kormoc: i never thought of that... another question to add... gggrrrr |
| [22:40:00] | praet: | love that movice |
| [22:41:00] | mythmonkey: | I always feel slightly odd after watching it... |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | mythmonkey, or did it exist at all? maybe he just passed out at the top of the hill and dreamed the end! |
| [22:41:00] | Juski_: | it's quite a headfuck the 1st time, I think |
| [22:42:00] | mythmonkey: | kormoc: true. of course you are swayed watching it by the evidence you see, but as you point out this is all from donnie's pov really... |
| [22:42:00] | praet: | my gf refused to watch it after i explained that there is a demented rabbit |
| [22:42:00] | mythmonkey: | lol praet I asked someone what it was about before I saw it and they said it was about a superhero bunny.... |
| [22:43:00] | praet: | haha |
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| [22:43:00] | praet: | why are you wearing that stupid man suit << best line ever |
| [22:43:00] | Juski_: | we had a few friends round to watch it one night. I'd doctored the closing credits to put my name in them... that freaked a couple of people out unintentionally |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | praet: yep |
| [22:43:00] | mythmonkey: | lol @ Juski_ |
| [22:43:00] | kormoc: | I love the movies they watched back to back, The last temptation of christ and evil dead 2 |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | praet: or i love how we rants about christina applegate when he's talking to his therapist |
| [22:43:00] | praet: | way to go Juski |
| [22:43:00] | Juski_: | was a bugger getting it to scroll at the same speed |
| [22:44:00] | praet: | this brngs me back |
| [22:44:00] | praet: | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246578/quotes |
| [22:44:00] | mythmonkey: | kormoc: and of course the other film showing (after we learn about donnie's gf's mum) is friday 13th!!! |
| [22:44:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [22:45:00] | praet: | if anyone hasnt seen it i recommend buying it so you can watch it a second time shortly after the end of the first time |
| [22:45:00] | kormoc: | I recommend the directors cut, it's much better |
| [22:46:00] | praet: | i agree |
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| [22:46:00] | praet: | Donnie: I made a new friend today. Dr: Real or imaginary? Donnie: Imaginary. |
| [22:47:00] | mythmonkey: | brb, just off to do some more testing... |
| [22:48:00] | Brov: | donnie is a great flick |
| [22:48:00] | Juski_: | long live cerebral films, that's what I say.. let's have more :-) |
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| [22:49:00] | Brov: | Prison Break Vs Lost? Which episode do you most anticipate? |
| [22:49:00] | Juski_: | oh wait.. that southpark episode I'm recording.. it's new... one word difference ;-) |
| [22:49:00] | Juski_: | Brov: neither :-) |
| [22:50:00] | Juski_: | Invasion lost me this week – might cancel my future recordings of it. enough of the backstory already |
| [22:50:00] | stuarta: | gave up on that after half an episode :) |
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| [22:52:00] | mythmonkey: | Ok I just tried firing up TVTime, then recorded with arecord. It recorded fine, should I try now with myth??? |
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| [22:52:00] | Brov: | OK Cool thx for your help guys, I now have divx working, but more importantly I understand why |
| [22:53:00] | Agrajag-: | xris: had a change to look at my patch for the frontend control thing? |
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| [22:54:00] | xris: | nope |
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| [22:56:00] | Agrajag-: | well get to it, wtf do you think this is!? |
| [22:56:00] | mythmonkey: | well i tried that, arecord wouldn't work whilst mythfrontend is watching TV |
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| [22:56:00] | Jasper: | hello, is it me you're looking for! |
| [22:56:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [22:57:00] | mythmonkey: | has anyone seen a short film (french, subtitled) called "Easy Money"??? |
| [22:57:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: blame final fantasy 9. |
| [22:57:00] | Agrajag-: | hahah |
| [22:57:00] | Agrajag-: | i've lost enough friends due to WoW |
| [22:57:00] | jams: | 9 is good |
| [22:58:00] | jams: | SOOO much better then 8 |
| [22:58:00] | mythmonkey: | Juski_: what were you thinking about my tv card mixer device??? |
| [22:58:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: I don't like the subscription model for games |
| [22:59:00] | Jasper: | men...I wish I could be watching my computer compiling all year long...it's sooo relaxing |
| [22:59:00] | Agrajag-: | xris: neither do i, but i can't blame the game companies for doing that for that style of game |
| [23:00:00] | xris: | yes |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | I prefer the Second Life model... small up front cost, or options to spend more money to get more stuff in-game |
| [23:01:00] | ** eidolon bleahs ** | |
| [23:01:00] | ** eidolon gives up. ** | |
| [23:01:00] | eidolon: | i think i need to nuke it from orbit and start over. |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | plus, Second Life contributes to my paycheck. heh |
| [23:01:00] | eidolon: | :( :( |
| [23:01:00] | eidolon: | hey xris. |
| [23:01:00] | ** xris just got eidolon's nick. ** | |
| [23:01:00] | eidolon: | heh. |
| [23:02:00] | eidolon: | i think my ancient knoppmyth install is fucked. :( |
| [23:02:00] | xris: | :( |
| [23:02:00] | eidolon: | *shrug* means i'll just revamp and run 0.19 or svn. |
| [23:02:00] | eidolon: | which i've been meaning to do for a while, but it's still annoying. |
| [23:02:00] | eidolon: | have to burn down to bedrock and start ove r;( |
| [23:03:00] | eidolon: | so. suggestions for a base platform? i'm leaning toward ubuntu or debian testing. |
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| [23:03:00] | eidolon: | working against svn most likely, cuz i'm gonna wanna work on mythweb. |
| [23:04:00] | Agrajag-: | what are you going to do to it? |
| [23:05:00] | eidolon: | build it, and they will come! :) this'll be my tinkering myth box – one tuner, install svn, and hopefully help xris rewrite some of the mythweb stuff. |
| [23:05:00] | eidolon: | i also do a lot of emulation gaming. |
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| [23:06:00] | Agrajag-: | btw xris pretty good framework for mythweb, i was able to figure it all out and do that frontend thing in < 2 hours |
| [23:06:00] | xris: | I will likely end up with a new "play" box... no idea what to do with it, though. |
| [23:06:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: thx.. wasn't sure how it'd end up, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. |
| [23:07:00] | eidolon: | well, my 'use' box is dead dead dead, so i don't have much choice :) |
| [23:07:00] | xris: | eidolon: that sucks |
| [23:07:00] | eidolon: | the only spare machines i have a celery 700 boxen. |
| [23:07:00] | eidolon: | not enough oomph to be a back end box, and that's what i want to work on. |
| [23:08:00] | xris: | well, I upgraded my desktop (and my wife's), and was only able to sell off one of the old boxes.. so I have a 3G p4 spare now. |
| [23:08:00] | eidolon: | how conveeenient. |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | my 1Ghz p3 is plenty as its current job as my web server, so no idea what to do with the p4. |
| [23:09:00] | eidolon: | send it to meeee! |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | sell it and buy two AMD64 boxes? :) |
| [23:09:00] | eidolon: | is your dev host == that webserver, and do you have a tuner in it? or just running mythbakend + webserver + mysql on it sans tuner? |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I can't sell it.. that's the problem |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | I already have a new intel64 box. |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | bah, that sux |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | xris: i'd take it for free. |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | AMD64 runs cooler, I bet :) |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | laga: that'd mean I'd have to pay like $150 to ship it to you |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | Beirdo: could be. mine sits around 60C |
| [23:10:00] | mythmonkey: | Beirdo: I just tried recording with arecord whilst TVTime was going. Recorded fine. I couldn't record with arecord whilst Myth was watching TV is there any way round that? |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | holy hell |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | my AMD64 boxes sit around 30C |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | xris: you should only do that if you could ship it together with the right mainboard. |
| [23:11:00] | xris: | laga: that's the whole computer. |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | you can't have both arecord and mythtv controlling the capture card at the same time, think about it |
| [23:11:00] | eidolon: | anyway – so what should i install as a base OS? debian testing work? |
| [23:11:00] | mythmonkey: | so what's next then? |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | p4 spare.. |
| [23:11:00] | Jasper: | nice.. |
| [23:11:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yeah. definite temp issues with the 820 procs... I think the BTX heatsinks need help. only 2 brands out, and both suck. |
| [23:11:00] | eidolon: | the p4 should be on my BOINC team :) |
| [23:11:00] | xris: | it's SUPPOSED to be 40–50C |
| [23:11:00] | laga: | xris: no, sorry, i have enough cases! keep it! i don't want your crap! :) |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:12:00] | xris: | gone through two thermaltake coolers and finally settled on the intel. |
| [23:12:00] | Jasper: | the p4 get damn hot |
| [23:12:00] | xris: | no other brands to choose from |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | xris zalman's are good |
| [23:13:00] | ** drdaz nods ** | |
| [23:13:00] | mythmonkey: | Juski_: you still around??? |
| [23:13:00] | drdaz: | 7000Cu is very quiet, and very effective |
| [23:13:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | I got zalman cpu and graphic cooler on p4.. |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | it's good cooling and very quiet |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | Jasper: zalman doesn't make anything for btx |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | only intel and thermaltake |
| [23:14:00] | Jasper: | yup |
| [23:15:00] | macroexp: | is there any evidence that that mythtv/transcode/commflag/etc would benefit from being compiled in 64-bit? |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | the thermaltakes are all messed up. either REALLY loud (off-balance fan), or too slow and holds the temp at 70+C |
| [23:15:00] | macroexp: | (besides just supposition) |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | we've gone throuh 8 or so and the intel is the most reliable.. but needs a new fan. |
| [23:15:00] | Jasper: | most of the times the intels are kinda good |
| [23:15:00] | Jasper: | if you put on the paste that is |
| [23:15:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | yeah, I have arctic silver 5 |
| [23:16:00] | eidolon: | so. not to be a real nudge here, but i have to start downloading cd images soon. platform suggestions please? :) |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | these are nice. 1.5" dia core of copper with an aluminum spiral running up |
| [23:16:00] | Jasper: | eidolon ? that's your own pick |
| [23:16:00] | Beirdo: | eidolon, go with what you know |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | eidolon: what Beirdo said |
| [23:17:00] | eidolon: | thank you :) i was thinking of debian testing – anything wrong with that? |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | I like fedora, Beirdo likes ubuntu |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | why would you go for testing? |
| [23:17:00] | eidolon: | more current. |
| [23:17:00] | eidolon: | testing is -very- stable. |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | eidolon: really, it's best to go with what you're most familiar. |
| [23:17:00] | eidolon: | debian 'stable' is traditionally reasonably out of date. |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | it will likely work, never heard many complaints about testing |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | yeah..but why would you need the newest versions of everything ? :P |
| [23:17:00] | Jasper: | for a mythtv box? |
| [23:18:00] | eidolon: | i'm running kubuntu 'dapper' on my laptop full time. |
| [23:18:00] | eidolon: | i do other things on my myth box:) like run xmame. *nod* :) :) |
| [23:18:00] | laga: | debian sarge works fine with mythtv :) but it's probably not the best distro for development, though |
| [23:18:00] | eidolon: | seriously though, debian 'stable' is now, what, 9 months old? that's pretty long. |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | FC1 works fine too |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:18:00] | eidolon: | ewww. i had to support fc2 for a bit. never again. |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | I didn't say FC2 |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:19:00] | eidolon: | i know :) |
| [23:19:00] | macroexp: | ok i'll rephrase my question, is anyone running mythtv compiled as 64-bit? |
| [23:19:00] | eidolon: | okay, lemme pull the latest installer, i'll unwrap that spare 250gig drive i have, and get-a-installin. i'll probably noodge ya'll once i get to 'okay, time ot install svn'. |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | my PVR is still running on FC1 |
| [23:20:00] | Jasper: | so eidolon what's it gonna be? |
| [23:20:00] | eidolon: | deb testing. |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | macroexp, yes, people do it all the time |
| [23:20:00] | mythmonkey: | (22:02:42) Chutt: you need to be a programmer to try and record audio from your tv card?(22:52:28) mythmonkey: Ok I just tried firing up TVTime, then recorded with arecord. It recorded fine |
| [23:20:00] | xris: | eidolon: fc2 and 3 sucked |
| [23:20:00] | eidolon: | i'm so done with redhat. |
| [23:20:00] | eidolon: | once i've seen and used apt, and on suse boxes used yast, i don't ever. ever. ever want to fiddle with rpms again. |
| [23:20:00] | eidolon: | ever. |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | I like the upgrade methodology in ubuntu so much better than FC, personally |
| [23:21:00] | Jasper: | damn, how cool is that..flying those aeromed helicopters |
| [23:21:00] | laga: | <3 apt-get |
| [23:21:00] | eidolon: | aptrox. |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | you can use apt on FC too |
| [23:21:00] | eidolon: | Beirdo: it's an unholy union of rpm and apt. |
| [23:21:00] | laga: | h8 apt4rpm |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | it works |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | as long as the RPM DB doesn't eat it |
| [23:21:00] | eidolon: | i wouldn't trust it with a 10ft string of mouldy pirahnas. |
| [23:21:00] | eidolon: | ding. |
| [23:21:00] | eidolon: | AAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway. |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | dpkg has the same potential issues, of course. |
| [23:22:00] | eidolon: | i'm running kubuntu dapper (apt!), and debian testing (apt!) and supporting a suse box (yast!), adn i'm happy. so there. |
| [23:22:00] | mythmonkey: | Am I just better off reverting back to 0.18.1 then??? |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | but I guess they test better :) |
| [23:22:00] | eidolon: | i've never had a debian box eat itself via packages. |
| [23:22:00] | eidolon: | i've killed many a redhat box via rpms. |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | mythmonkey, I don't know what you should try |
| [23:22:00] | eidolon: | anyway. silly argument. |
| [23:22:00] | ** eidolon carries on. ** | |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | argument? |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | who's arguing? |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | use what ya like, dude ;) |
| [23:23:00] | eidolon: | *grin* didn't you see me gesticulating wildly? |
| [23:23:00] | eidolon: | i was fairly foaming at the mouth! |
| [23:23:00] | mythmonkey: | Beirdo: do you know anyone who can give me any suggestions then? |
| [23:23:00] | Jasper: | mythmonkey what aint working? |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | as long as it has QT3 and mysql, you should be good |
| [23:24:00] | mythmonkey: | Jasper, its the sound in Watch TV. posted to the forums and to the users list. Juski gave me some good help in here today, but all we could ascertain is that Myth doesn't seem able to unmute my TV Card's audio, but TVTime can. Sound works fine in Videos, Music |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | eidolon: properly-managed fedora is fine.. it's when repositories like atrpms start replacing core packages that you get into trouble. |
| [23:25:00] | mythmonkey: | I've justed tested sound capture with arecord from TV Time, again no problems, sound card can capture the sound fine |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | xris, or RH8/9's RPM which routinely ate itself |
| [23:25:00] | Jasper: | mythmonkey you got a pvr? |
| [23:26:00] | mythmonkey: | Yeah, was running myth 0.18.1 fine for many months, but since the upgrade i've had this problem. |
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| [23:26:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I only started having trouble when I started using atrpms, actually. |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | but rh8 did suck |
| [23:26:00] | Jasper: | mythmonkey what happends if you cat the device to a file? |
| [23:26:00] | mythmonkey: | nope, its a philips semiconductors SAA7130 |
| [23:26:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [23:26:00] | Jasper: | what pvr is it? |
| [23:27:00] | mythmonkey: | sorry, what do you mean by PVR Jasper? |
| [23:27:00] | Jasper: | ah ok |
| [23:27:00] | Jasper: | you got a hauppauge? |
| [23:27:00] | Jasper: | or something else? |
| [23:27:00] | chuckyp: | mythmonkey, what drivers are you using? |
| [23:27:00] | mythmonkey: | the standard drive from the 2.6.13 slackware kernel |
| [23:28:00] | Jasper: | mythmonkey what card do you have? |
| [23:28:00] | mythmonkey: | nope Jasper its a SAA7130 philips semiconductor. was a boxed "packard hell" ;-) |
| [23:28:00] | mythmonkey: | i got it in the bargain bin |
| [23:28:00] | Jasper: | ah k |
| [23:29:00] | mythmonkey: | I get a picture fine, and it works flawless in TV Time |
| [23:29:00] | Jasper: | is that a mpeg2 decoder via hardware? |
| [23:29:00] | Jasper: | encoder even |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | no, it's a frame grabber |
| [23:29:00] | mythmonkey: | nope, framegrabber |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | a Dutch-designed one |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:29:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:29:00] | Jasper: | then it MUST work |
| [23:29:00] | Jasper: | .. |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, are you sure you have mythtv setup correctly for the card? |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | and compiled in the correct sound system support, etc? |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | I'm SO deleting this Soundstage |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | Joss Stome with Mavis Staples |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | BLECH |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | I'll pass |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | Stone rather, can't type |
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| [23:31:00] | Jasper: | mythmonkey does xawtv work with it: |
| [23:31:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [23:31:00] | mythmonkey: | Beirdo: what do you mean? |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | did you compile in support for OSS/ALSA correctly? |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | and have the audio input set correctly in your setup, etc |
| [23:32:00] | mythmonkey: | Jasper: don't think I have xawtv installed. Previously, I couldn't get xawtv to work on 0.18 with slack 9.1, so i tried TV Time and that worked ok? |
| [23:32:00] | mythmonkey: | audio input is line in |
| [23:32:00] | Jasper: | hmm k |
| [23:33:00] | Jasper: | I have no clue how the framegrabbers work.. |
| [23:33:00] | mythmonkey: | compile support for alsa in mythtv? I thought it was the default? If its working in videos/music, doesn't that mean alsa is working ok? |
| [23:33:00] | Jasper: | so it's not using the line-in in mythtv? |
| [23:33:00] | Jasper: | right? |
| [23:33:00] | mythmonkey: | mythtv-setup has audio device as /dev/sound/dsp |
| [23:34:00] | mythmonkey: | alsamixer is set to record from line in |
| [23:34:00] | Jasper: | and you disabled use internal settings in mythtv? |
| [23:35:00] | mythmonkey: | i tried changing pretty much every setting in myth-tv setup. i will try that now Jasper |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | I feel like playing a game |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | why's that Beirdo |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | because I do? |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | ah ...I understand now |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | then go play one? |
| [23:35:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [23:35:00] | laga: | get a GF ;) |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc: | he has one |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | Have a fiancee, even better |
| [23:36:00] | Jasper: | laga did you see the movie I posted? |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | but she's many many miles away |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc: | and she's taking him to a tropical paradise where the water is crystal blue, just like the skys... lucky sob... :P |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, screw this snow and cold |
| [23:37:00] | laga: | Jasper: not yet, i've spent the last 12 hours breaking and fixing things ;) |
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| [23:37:00] | Jasper: | http://www.flabber.nl/archief/015126.php <--- if you have time |
| [23:37:00] | Jasper: | 8) |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | oh laga...did you hear I had the xvmc working ? :P |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | Martina McBride.. that's country? |
| [23:38:00] | laga: | Jasper: yep. good job :) |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | more luck then something else.. |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:38:00] | laga: | Jasper: what fixed it? |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | I have no clue whatsoever |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | I think messing around with agpgart |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | gah, the info said Martina McBride, but it's actually the Wallflowers?! |
| [23:38:00] | Jasper: | I managed to find out that it has to run with agp: disabled |
| [23:39:00] | kormoc: | agpgart is sucky, nvagp tends to be better imho. |
| [23:39:00] | ** Beirdo slaps PBS for feeding zap2it bad data ** | |
| [23:39:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | kormoc it won't run with nvagp |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | for some reason |
| [23:39:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, why's that? |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | no clue.. |
| [23:39:00] | kormoc: | what's your motherboard's chipset? |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | 815 |
| [23:39:00] | Jasper: | intel |
| [23:40:00] | kormoc: | nvagp will provide much better performance on a 815 in my experences |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | well ...probably |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | if it would work |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:40:00] | kormoc: | you sure you disabled agpgard out of your kernel? |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | I can give it one more try later on |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | njo I didn't |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | I left it on |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | because I otherwise won't have 4x agp |
| [23:40:00] | kormoc: | that's a requriement for nvagp |
| [23:40:00] | kormoc: | of course you will |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | then it remains on 2x |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | for some reason |
| [23:40:00] | Jasper: | nah |
| [23:40:00] | kormoc: | you need to tell the nvidia kernel module to enable 4x |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | if I boot without agpcard it will use 2x |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | how do I tell it that? |
| [23:41:00] | kormoc: | no... |
| [23:41:00] | ** Beirdo hands kormoc a trout ** | |
| [23:41:00] | kormoc: | modprobe nvidia NVreg_ReqAGPRate=4 |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | but anyways I had it running on nvagp before |
| [23:41:00] | kormoc: | modinfo nvidia will list all the module options for the kernel module. |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | but then xvmc didn't work |
| [23:41:00] | Jasper: | that's why I went back to agp = disabled |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | and besides, xvmc care about agp drivers |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | it works fine on pci as well |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | don't know why |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | I can give it another try |
| [23:42:00] | mythmonkey: | yep, tried that Jasper, still nothing |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | after I re-emerged mythtv |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | since I needed to recompile it |
| [23:42:00] | ** kormoc munches on Beirdo's trout. ** | |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | yummy |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | hmm mythmonkey |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, why would you need to do that? |
| [23:42:00] | Jasper: | kormoc I downgraded my nvidia drivers |
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| [23:43:00] | kormoc: | no need to recompile myth cause you downgraded drivers |
| [23:43:00] | Jasper: | yeah that's what I though |
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| [23:43:00] | Jasper: | but It complained about using the wrong libraries |
| [23:43:00] | mythmonkey: | I've been at this Monday now, its getting really frustrating. I have tried every setting I can, killing backend, mythtv-setup, starting backend, mythfilldatabase, frontend, still no luck |
| [23:43:00] | kormoc: | you sure your system is sane? |
| [23:43:00] | Jasper: | I know how you feel mythmonkey had the same with xvmc |
| [23:43:00] | Jasper: | just hang in there.. |
| [23:43:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | I hope so kormoc |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | revdep-rebuild is your friend |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | nah |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | emerge is |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | revdep-rebuild is a tool for emerge |
| [23:44:00] | mythmonkey: | yeah i am back to work next week though, so i won't have any time. I think i am better off going back to 0.18.1 |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | well the strange thing is.. |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | it checks your system to make sure everything is correct |
| [23:44:00] | Jasper: | emerge -pvN world also said I needed to recompile it. |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | reemerging broken packages |
| [23:45:00] | Jasper: | yeah prolly should have done that before then |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | emerge doesn't check for broken stuff, hence revdep-rebuild |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | it's part of gentoolkit |
| [23:45:00] | laga: | revdep-rebuild is nice. i think i'm finally getting the grasp of maintaining a gentoo system now with my fourth attempt or so ;) |
| [23:45:00] | mythmonkey: | maybe a different kernel might change things... i might try 2.6.15 tomorrow |
| [23:47:00] | laga: | i should do some regression testing and find out what changes in my system would affect playback negatively. but then again, getting shaved and going out sounds better ;) |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | it is better laga |
| [23:48:00] | Jasper: | we have traditional 'carnaval' here from friday till the wednesday following it :P |
| [23:49:00] | Jasper: | 6 days of being drunk.. |
| [23:49:00] | laga: | yeah, we too. and i fscking hate it :) |
| [23:49:00] | Jasper: | you do? why's taht? |
| [23:49:00] | mythmonkey: | I'm gonna have my own little Carnival if I get this dam sound working... |
| [23:49:00] | Jasper: | I didn't know they had carnaval in germany |
| [23:49:00] | laga: | because i don't know why people would be happy and funny just because. and i don't need a reason to get drunk so it's kinda useless to me |
| [23:49:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:50:00] | laga: | mythmonkey: it's big especially in cologne |
| [23:50:00] | Jasper: | it just fun..getting drunk 6 days in a row with friends...without worry's |
| [23:50:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:50:00] | mythmonkey: | my parents used to live in Spain, they had a few there :) |
| [23:50:00] | mythmonkey: | don't forget the eating!# |
| [23:51:00] | test34: | I have problems compiling mythtv, I did ./configure --disable-joystick-menu because I was getting errors with the joystick header file but now I get this: ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.19.so: undefined reference to `JoystickMenuClient::Init(QString&)' Any ideas how to fix it ? |
| [23:51:00] | Jasper: | mythmonkey it's kinda different in spain |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | test34: suse? |
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| [23:52:00] | test34: | laga, slackware |
| [23:52:00] | mythmonkey: | more/less eating/drinking? |
| [23:52:00] | Jasper: | well that is if oyu mean the feria's over there mythmonkey |
| [23:52:00] | Jasper: | no they're great |
| [23:52:00] | mythmonkey: | test34, i compiled myth on slackware fine on monday |
| [23:52:00] | Jasper: | only they last like 2 weeks |
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| [23:53:00] | laga: | test34: oh. humm. make sure you remove all mythtv libs from your system, do a make distclean and recompile from scratch |
| [23:53:00] | Jasper: | I was over there in june |
| [23:53:00] | mythmonkey: | yeah, my parents were surprised at the stamina of the older generation! |
| [23:53:00] | Jasper: | celebrating the feria of jerez de la frontera |
| [23:53:00] | test34: | its version 0.19 |
| [23:53:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [23:53:00] | test34: | laga, ok let me try |
| [23:53:00] | Jasper: | If you go to a bar you will see 60 year old partying |
| [23:53:00] | Jasper: | it's amazing |
| [23:54:00] | test34: | any precompiled mythtv for slackware, it takes forever to compile on my 1ghz |
| [23:54:00] | mythmonkey: | must be the sun and good diet :) |
| [23:54:00] | laga: | test34: install ccache |
| [23:54:00] | Jasper: | well my experience was that the food sucked |
| [23:54:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [23:54:00] | laga: | mythmonkey: that reminds me of a very stupid commercial ;) |
| [23:54:00] | Jasper: | they manage to frie everything |
| [23:54:00] | mythmonkey: | well compared to food in the UK it was great ;-) |
| [23:54:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [23:55:00] | Jasper: | then that must be really bad |
| [23:55:00] | mythmonkey: | most of it is. unless i've made it ;-) |
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| [23:56:00] | mythmonkey: | test34: http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_view.php? . . . amp;ver=10.2 |
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| [23:56:00] | phar0e: | hellooooo |
| [23:56:00] | test34: | mythmonkey, cool, thanks |
| [23:57:00] | mythmonkey: | watch those dependencies though test34 |
| [23:57:00] | phar0e: | I have libraw1394, libavc1394, and libdv installed... /usr/local prefix... but I can't get mythtv to enable firewire support, any suggestions? |
| [23:57:00] | mythmonkey: | Requires: ALSA, aRts, JACK, LAME, libdvdnav, Qt |
| [23:57:00] | test34: | mythmonkey, ok |
| [23:59:00] | mythmonkey: | so do you guys think I should try a new kernel then? I think we've covered pretty much everything now... |
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