| Saturday, February 18th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | sky_monkey007: | hey all. I'm setting up MythTV on a SuSE 9.1 box and am using a Happauge WinTV-Go (BT878), but in the mythtv-setup, the settings for Standard V4L capture card using /dev/video0 doesn't seem to be right.. |
| [00:01:00] | juski_: | sky_monkey007: it'd be about right |
| [00:01:00] | briand: | dev-: livetv still running here, been through three program changes on this channel with no hiccups. |
| [00:01:00] | sky_monkey007: | when I cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg, it just comes back as a bunch of jumbled video |
| [00:01:00] | achew22: | sky_monkey007 is it static or jumbled? |
| [00:01:00] | sky_monkey007: | it's not snow-like static, it's just jumbled video. |
| [00:01:00] | briand: | I have "JUMBLED_VIDEO=never" set in my environment variables. |
| [00:01:00] | ** briand winks. ** | |
| [00:01:00] | juski_: | bah.. xvattr not found |
| [00:02:00] | sky_monkey007: | briand: funny ;) |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | sky_monkey007, check that you have it in NTSC/PAL mode as appropriate |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | then that the tuner type is correct |
| [00:02:00] | juski_: | oh minimyth.. this just isn't funny. man xine.. man not found. ffs |
| [00:02:00] | sky_monkey007: | when I do run mythtv and go to watch live tv, it just goes to a black screen and freezes my system too. |
| [00:02:00] | sky_monkey007: | Beirdo, I'll doublecheck, but I'm pretty sure I have it set to NTSC |
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| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | sky_monkey007, does it tune right in tvtime or xawtv? |
| [00:03:00] | briand: | sky_monkey007: i used to do stuff like that years ago, when i worked for a software company. I'd submit config.sys files with the bug reports with stuff like "RANDOM_LOCKUP=true" and "HANGTIME=infinite" ... just to see if the devs really read thru 'em. |
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| [00:03:00] | ** briand ...but of course, I also always kept my *.BATs in D:\BELFRY, too... ** | |
| [00:04:00] | defi_: | What are all the mythtv-bin files in /var/lib/mysql? |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | Oh GOD |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | someone from snapstream.com in the dev channel asking questions |
| [00:04:00] | juski_: | kick, ban ban kick |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | that's up to Chutt :) |
| [00:05:00] | Beirdo: | but I ain't gonna answer him, especially as I have no clue |
| [00:05:00] | sky_monkey007: | Beirdo: under mythtv-setup, I can't find any setting for NTSC/PAL |
| [00:05:00] | Beirdo: | it would be a module parameter, I think |
| [00:05:00] | Beirdo: | bttv module that is |
| [00:06:00] | juski_: | hrm.. going crazy listening to the pulp fiction menu loop here |
| [00:06:00] | Beirdo: | been a while since I setup a bttv setup |
| [00:06:00] | defi_: | anyone know what those are for, mysql maybe? |
| [00:06:00] | sky_monkey007: | ah, well I know the bttv module is setup and working correctly. I have my card installed and can view tv fine using tvtime |
| [00:06:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [00:06:00] | Beirdo: | that's step one |
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| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | and you can tune all the channels right, not just one? |
| [00:07:00] | sky_monkey007: | yep, all the channels come in fine |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | so not a driver issue. |
| [00:07:00] | sky_monkey007: | nope, it would seem not to be. |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you are using the correct input in mythtv-setup |
| [00:07:00] | sky_monkey007: | it's set for TELEVISION |
| [00:08:00] | sky_monkey007: | not composite or otherwise |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | dunno what it will be, nor what the choices are |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | and it's not tuning? |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, I assume you are using zap2it? |
| [00:09:00] | Beirdo: | for channel info? |
| [00:09:00] | Beirdo: | and that you didn't edit the channel settings? |
| [00:09:00] | sky_monkey007: | on Input Preference, for bttv it should be set to 0, since thats what the bttv module has set for the tuner, correct? |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | not sure |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | been a while for that part |
| [00:10:00] | sky_monkey007: | hmm...brb going to re-read through the wiki real quick. |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | after changing the settings in mythtv-setup, don't forget to restart the backend |
| [00:12:00] | nasa: | hi gang, what creates devices under /dev/lirc/* ?? I use to have 0 & 1 in there — but they are gone now... |
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| [00:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | can someone people tell me how to make vncserver start on startup? |
| [00:12:00] | Beirdo: | udev or something, nasa |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, what's wrong with a guy from slipstream.com? |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | snapstream. |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | not slipstream |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | nasa, udev/devfs do, as requested by the lirc driver |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, s/slipstream/snapstream/g then :P |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | nothing's WRONG with that.. other than it being the main competitor to mythtv (and not free, not Linux) :) |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:14:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I ain't got a clue about what's being asked, and it is the wrong channel for the question, so... |
| [00:14:00] | briand: | MythTV is mentioned on the Hauppauge site... snapstream isn't. ;) |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, ooh, I didn't know they made pvrs. I thought they were just a iptv group |
| [00:15:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv fits my needs WAY better than snapstream ever could |
| [00:15:00] | bmbler: | Does anyone with experience with ivtv under Ubuntu know where the file v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw belongs? Also, my pvr-150 cd has a HcwMakoB.ROM and HcwMakoC.ROM, but no HcwMakoA.ROM – what version of this file should I be using (and renaming to v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw , as I undertand the directions.) |
| [00:15:00] | briand: | likewise. |
| [00:15:00] | briand: | bmbler: in your hotplug directory ? |
| [00:16:00] | briand: | bmbler: are you using an init ramdisk? |
| [00:16:00] | bmbler: | briand: Which is ...? I've placed it in /var/lib/hotplug/firmware , but dmesg still reports it can't load it diring modprobe. |
| [00:16:00] | briand: | bmbler: if so, need to rebuild that and make sure the firmware is included. |
| [00:16:00] | Juski: | break time again |
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| [00:17:00] | bmbler: | briand: This can't be loaded after? It has to be placed in the initrd? |
| [00:17:00] | briand: | bmbler: depends on how you've set up your system. |
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| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc, they make what used to be called snapstream, now called "beyond tv". runs in winblows |
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| [00:18:00] | briand: | bmbler: i have a pvr-350, and use it's built-in TV-Out... so I put the stuff in initrd to get a video display sooner than I otherwise would. |
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| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | he's gone, briand |
| [00:18:00] | briand: | hmm. how dare he leave while I'm still talking. ;) |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
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| [00:19:00] | briand: | there he is... |
| [00:19:00] | briand: | bmbler: i have a pvr-350, and use it's built-in TV-Out... so I put the stuff in initrd to get a video display sooner than I otherwise would. |
| [00:19:00] | znoG: | this can't be right |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | and the pathetico user's back |
| [00:19:00] | znoG: | nuvexport taking like 3 days to export a nuv to avi |
| [00:20:00] | znoG: | 3.4fps |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | on what CPU, what options? |
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| [00:20:00] | znoG: | no options, just using standard nuvexport |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | what options? |
| [00:20:00] | znoG: | CPU: model name : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2800+ |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | i.e. WHICH exporter? |
| [00:20:00] | znoG: | ffmpeg, i think? |
| [00:20:00] | bmbler: | briand: I have a 150 – should simply placing it int eh hotplug directory (which may or may not be /var/lib/hotplug/firmware) be acceptable? |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | 3fps on that CPU? That's a wee bit slow, but might be right |
| [00:21:00] | defi_: | What exactly is kept in the files mythtv-bin.000*** in /var/lib/mysql |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | especially if the CPU's doing other stuff |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | defi_, no clue |
| [00:21:00] | briand: | bmbler: you might search thru the ivtv-dev list... I seem to recall someone having a similar problem, so they created a link to the name of a different hotplug directory, or something like that... |
| [00:22:00] | znoG: | Beirdo: its just way too slow, i mean I can convert a DVD to XVID in 6–8 hours... surely exporting a .nuv to .avi can't take this long |
| [00:22:00] | briand: | /etc/hotplug or something, maybe? I don't remember. |
| [00:22:00] | znoG: | it has a total of 240,000 frames |
| [00:22:00] | znoG: | 272880 actually |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | znoG, what's the CPU load like? |
| [00:22:00] | defi_: | Beirdo I have about 125 files in there all called mythtv-bin and I dont know if I can remove them |
| [00:22:00] | znoG: | 17107 gs 39 19 13148 6284 444 R 47.7 0.8 359:53.40 yuvdenoise |
| [00:22:00] | znoG: | 17108 gs 39 19 43452 37m 1484 R 46.3 4.9 382:45.77 ffmpeg |
| [00:22:00] | znoG: | ouch |
| [00:22:00] | znoG: | maybe the denoise stuff I enabled is causing it |
| [00:23:00] | znoG: | it did say it would make it slower but better quality in the end |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | yuvdenoise will always slow it way down, but gives nicer output |
| [00:23:00] | znoG: | yep thats just what nuvexport said :) |
| [00:23:00] | znoG: | so that's why then |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | either I wrote that text or xris did |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:23:00] | Pitchin_uk: | do i need to set the interactive channels on like to invisbel |
| [00:23:00] | znoG: | i haven't tried exporting with and without denoise so i haven't a clue how different it would be |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | well, try making a SHORT recording (manual schedule a 5min or something) |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | then try with and without, etc |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | see if it gives decent enough output without :) |
| [00:24:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: yes |
| [00:25:00] | briand: | I tried out the new 'lossless MPEG2' transcoder last night.. kicked it off on a 1/2-hour show I had set some cut points in.. then walked back to my computer room to check on it's progress via mythweb. |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | as it sure will make it faster to not use yuvdenoise |
| [00:25:00] | briand: | ...it was already done. |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | briand, shouldn't take long |
| [00:25:00] | tweak_st: | mpeg2 is lossy, whats the point |
| [00:25:00] | briand: | Beirdo: it didn't... maybe 20–30 seconds or so. |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | what's the point? |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | it just cuts out the parts you don't want |
| [00:26:00] | briand: | tweak_st: my pvr-350 directly reads mpeg2 and decodes it. with the mpeg2 transcoder, I can permanently remove commercial breaks, PBS pledge breaks, etc.. and still view it on my PVR-350 |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | rather than reencoding it all |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | that's the point |
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| [00:27:00] | briand: | yes... and it's a great feature, and the main reason I was so anxious to upgrade to 0.19 |
| [00:27:00] | bmbler: | Ah, for future reference, after fixing hotplug, ivtv must be unloaded and reloaded. Simply modprobing it doesn't do the trick. |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | and it makes the crude hack I did before (mpeg2cut in nuvexport) totally unnecessary :) |
| [00:27:00] | briand: | bmbler: of course. |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
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| [00:28:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski once i have removed the channels i dont want – is it a good idea to re run mythfilldatabase |
| [00:28:00] | daedius: | anyone here familiar with getting "uhci_hcd" remotes to work? |
| [00:28:00] | ** briand thinks ..oO(snapstream? what's that??). ** | |
| [00:29:00] | sky_monkey007: | Beirdo: I think I have all the settings correct now, yet when I start mythtv as a standard user, I do notice in the terminal mythtv: permission denied and mythtv: could not connect to socket. |
| [00:29:00] | daedius: | SnapStream makes BTV! =P |
| [00:29:00] | daedius: | Is anyone here familiar with remotes under linux? |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | sky_monkey007, you may need to change perms on /dev/video0 |
| [00:29:00] | briand: | sky_monkey007: what do the directory permissions on /dev/vid* look like? |
| [00:29:00] | sky_monkey007: | brb, lemme look |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | and maybe also to /dev/dsp*, /dev/mixer |
| [00:30:00] | briand: | BTV? never heard of it. |
| [00:30:00] | briand: | second only to ATV? |
| [00:30:00] | briand: | Beirdo: ...and /dev/lirc* |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [00:30:00] | daedius: | Prolly not, its windows-ware. ;P I'm trying to get some of our companies remotes to work under linux, it looks like there is a driver that exists ""uhci_hcd"" but lirccd isn't detecting it too well |
| [00:30:00] | ** Beirdo smacks lirc with a stick and goes back to his IR keyboard ** | |
| [00:31:00] | sky_monkey007: | Beirdo: checked and it's owned by root, video group, and perms are 775 as I had set it. |
| [00:31:00] | defi_: | can someone tell me how big there /var/lib/mysql dir is on there master backend? |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | daedius, I can't help ya, unfortunately. I don't do lirc |
| [00:31:00] | briand: | Beirdo: I specifically chose an RF remote keyboard/mouse for my MythTV box... too much IR floating around the place as it is... as well as flourescent lights in the kitchen, etc.. |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | sky_monkey007, is the "regular user" in the video group? |
| [00:32:00] | Juski: | ooo how fast does 'recorded programs' load now? nicely done |
| [00:32:00] | Beirdo: | briand, good choice, but the IR ones often have better range and are cheaper :) |
| [00:32:00] | briand: | defi_: not that big. |
| [00:32:00] | Yellow-Snow: | can someone people tell me how to make vncserver start on startup? |
| [00:32:00] | defi_: | briand under 1 GB |
| [00:32:00] | defi_: | ? |
| [00:32:00] | briand: | drwx------ 2 mysql mysql 4096 Jun 10 2005 mysql |
| [00:32:00] | briand: | srwxrwxrwx 1 mysql mysql 0 Feb 16 19:55 mysql.sock |
| [00:32:00] | briand: | drwx------ 2 mysql mysql 12288 Feb 16 17:48 mythconverg |
| [00:32:00] | briand: | drwx------ 2 mysql mysql 4096 Jun 10 2005 test |
| [00:32:00] | briand: | [ |
| [00:32:00] | Beirdo: | defi_, what's IN those files? |
| [00:32:00] | defi_: | Beirdo dont know |
| [00:33:00] | Beirdo: | I assume you tried to use less? |
| [00:33:00] | briand: | how many years worth of data do you have in your mythconverg database? ;) |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | I have 2.5 years |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:34:00] | briand: | Juski: seems faster on my system than under 0.18.1, too. |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | or whatever it is from Nov 2003 |
| [00:34:00] | defi_: | Beirdo there binary files |
| [00:34:00] | sky_monkey007: | Beirdo: yep, under /etc/groups, it shows root and my user account as being part of the video group |
| [00:34:00] | briand: | Beirdo: well, I'm a relative latecomer... I built my 0.18.1 box just under a year ago. |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | sky_monkey007, did you login after you added the user to the group? |
| [00:35:00] | jams: | daedius- going to be around for a while? |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | or was the shell you are using already open? |
| [00:35:00] | sky_monkey007: | you mean log out of the account and then log back in? |
| [00:35:00] | briand: | yes. |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [00:35:00] | sky_monkey007: | yep |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | after you add a group, you'll need to do that |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | or the shell has no idea it's in the group |
| [00:36:00] | jams: | daedius- might be able to help you when I get back |
| [00:36:00] | daedius: | yah =) |
| [00:36:00] | daedius: | thanks jams |
| [00:36:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow: umm... chkconfig vncserver on ?? |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | stupid zap2it |
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| [00:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | braind where? |
| [00:37:00] | briand: | what'd it do now, Beirdo ? |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | this isn't Crumbs, this is Grey's Anatomy! |
| [00:37:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [00:37:00] | sky_monkey007: | brb |
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| [00:38:00] | briand: | Beirdo: just for the heck of it, what does the schedule for your area say on the website (www.clicktv.com will auto-redirect there) ? |
| [00:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | briand where do i put that? |
| [00:38:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow: at a command prompt, logged in as root. |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | on what website? |
| [00:38:00] | briand: | sorry.. dos terminology. at a terminal prompt. |
| [00:38:00] | briand: | s/command/terminal/g |
| [00:38:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [00:38:00] | briand: | clicktv.com |
| [00:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | chkconfig command not fonund |
| [00:39:00] | briand: | zap2it's site |
| [00:39:00] | achew22: | HEllo all! |
| [00:39:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, not sure when this was recorded |
| [00:39:00] | briand: | Yellow-Snow: what OS/distro are you running? |
| [00:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | knoppmyth |
| [00:39:00] | Beirdo: | yesterday at 9:30 |
| [00:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i forget what it is |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | channel 18... |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | let me see |
| [00:40:00] | briand: | i don't know what the equivalent knoppix command is for 'chkconfig' |
| [00:40:00] | achew22: | Yellow-Snow you don't know what distro your on? |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | bastards |
| [00:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | no im a newb |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | it's right there |
| [00:40:00] | briand: | was it right on the web site? |
| [00:40:00] | briand: | ..but not in the xml feed? |
| [00:40:00] | briand: | you should point that out to them.. |
| [00:40:00] | Layer01_zzz is now known as Layer01 | |
| [00:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | can't i add something to /home/mythtv/.fluxbox/apps? |
| [00:41:00] | briand: | or... what's the timestamp on that entry in your program table?? |
| [00:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | like [startup] {vncserver}? |
| [00:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont get it |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | well, it MAY have been one week old data |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:41:00] | briand: | perhaps you didn't "update" the listings. |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | as my DSL came back up yesterday |
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| [00:41:00] | briand: | ah.. yeah, late change to the program lineup |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | tis possible |
| [00:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | anyone? |
| [00:42:00] | briand: | my best friend's wife is one of the channel editor supervisors at Tribune Media .. |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | Yellow-Snow, this isn't #vnc, why would we know? |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | briand, hehe. kick his ass |
| [00:42:00] | achew22: | i thought that you were the vnc master? |
| [00:42:00] | briand: | the zap2it labs feed should be the same as their 'live' web feed. |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it should be |
| [00:43:00] | briand: | Beirdo: he's 1300+ miles away from me! |
| [00:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | idk i was thinking there is something where i can just add a line to startup |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | vnc? I've never run that nonsense :) |
| [00:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | like a startup file |
| [00:43:00] | briand: | I moved from upstate NY to Tallahassee, FL 10+ years ago |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | my condolences on the hurricane-fest |
| [00:43:00] | bmbler: | briand: Thanks for the handholding. Beirdo: Thanbks for the pseudoabuse. :) |
| [00:43:00] | briand: | briand: no problem.. all working now? |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | any time |
| [00:44:00] | znoG: | Yellow-Snow: wrong chan mate, try #fluxbox |
| [00:44:00] | briand: | er, bmbler: all working now? |
| [00:44:00] | Beirdo: | all I said was to go read the docs :) |
| [00:44:00] | bmbler: | briand: I think so- channels and PVR setup, rebooting to fix sound issues. |
| [00:44:00] | briand: | <-- types too fast for his own good, sometimes. |
| [00:44:00] | briand: | cool deal. |
| [00:44:00] | Beirdo: | and abused your ISP, not you |
| [00:44:00] | bmbler: | Beirdo: I think you also insulted my dsl provider. :) |
| [00:44:00] | Beirdo: | sympatico (and ALL of Bell) piss me off |
| [00:44:00] | Beirdo: | ;) |
| [00:44:00] | Beirdo: | not your fault |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | Beirdo: I worked for FL Emergency Management last summer and the summer before... so I've seen more hurricane-fest related crap than most! |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | (not working there now, though. :) |
| [00:45:00] | bmbler: | Heh. Yes, but what you did not know is I acidentally hit ctrl-alt-backspace, it wasnt' sympatico. :) |
| [00:45:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [00:45:00] | Beirdo: | been there, done that |
| [00:45:00] | bmbler: | Bye, thanks. |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | ta! |
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| [00:45:00] | briand: | where are you located, Beirdo ? |
| [00:45:00] | Beirdo: | Toronto |
| [00:45:00] | Beirdo: | currently |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | ah. nice area. snow, tho |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | lake effect snow, no less. |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | once I can find a damn job and get a TN visa.... Puerto Rico |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | nah, Toronto misses much of the snow, it lands all around us. |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | have you finished shovelling yet? |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | used to happen like that in Glens Falls, NY, too... |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | ain't snowed here much |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | and I live in a hi-rise condo on the waterfront |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | no shovelling for me, just lots of wind |
| [00:47:00] | briand: | kinda in between the beginning of the Adirondacks and the middle of the Green Mountains... so storms would kinda go one way or the other... |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | and a wicked thunderstorm last night |
| [00:47:00] | defi_: | For anyone that cares the mythtv-bin.**** files are part of the mysql binlog |
| [00:47:00] | achew22: | How do you setup mythttranscode or another program to transcode files to AVI files automaticly and have it cut out commercials? |
| [00:47:00] | briand: | ...but, if they came up the upper hudson valley? TONS of snow. |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | I'd love to live there, briand |
| [00:47:00] | briand: | Adirondacks? beautiful country. |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | but I'd rather escape snow permanently |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | my step-dad still lives there |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I grew up off Georgian Bay, also beautiful area |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | ...so I can go visit when I feel like hiking. |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | Adirondacks.. wonderful, even if it IS in NY :) |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | "hiking" in florida is ho-hum. very flat. |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | NY: "If you like it, we'll tax it!" |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | NY: "If you don't like it, we'll tax it!" |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | they put in a sex tax yet? |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | dunno.. I live in FL now. :) |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:49:00] | achew22: | anyone got any ideas? |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | achew22: how much confidence do you have in the accuracy of the commercial flagging? |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | achew22, right now, to go to AVI, you need nuvexport, and it's not automatic |
| [00:50:00] | achew22: | very much |
| [00:50:00] | briand: | I find that it, sometimes, will flag a movie scene that gets too "black" as a commercial.. and skip over 10–15 seconds. |
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| [00:51:00] | briand: | ...done it a few times on Law & Order too, if I recall |
| [00:51:00] | achew22: | briand: I don't care if it screws up the thing its just the news |
| [00:51:00] | achew22: | if its really screwed up I'll watch the 10 o' clock |
| [00:51:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [00:52:00] | briand: | hmm... which begs the question. |
| [00:52:00] | briand: | do you record the news every night, then? |
| [00:52:00] | achew22: | yes I do |
| [00:52:00] | nasa: | ok, all the lirc devices (/dev/lircd /dev/lircm /dev/lircd1 /dev/lirc/0) are created — except /dev/lirc/1 the appropriate modules are loaded. But irw doesn't see anything... |
| [00:52:00] | Beirdo: | poor achew22 |
| [00:52:00] | achew22: | yes, poor me... why? |
| [00:53:00] | briand: | does myth's scheduler see each broadcast as a 'regular' show? ...not a 'rerun' or a 'previously recorded' episode? |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | news = propaganda :) |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | I'll take my lies in the form of fictitious shows :) |
| [00:53:00] | briand: | in other words, did you need to do anything special with 'duplicate matching' methodology to get it to record? |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | you haven't fixed that yet? :) |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:54:00] | briand: | it's not my bug! |
| [00:54:00] | briand: | (not yet, anyway) |
| [00:54:00] | briand: | in fact, I'm not even a 'developer-of-record' |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | briand, I don't have a issue with shows that don't have descriptions or what not |
| [00:54:00] | briand: | :P |
| [00:55:00] | briand: | kormoc: see #1318 for a description of what I'm seeing in mythweb |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | fiddle the dupe policy and see if it changes |
| [00:55:00] | achew22: | so, noone knows how to help? |
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| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | achew22, what kind of tuner are you using? |
| [00:56:00] | sky_monkey007: | Beirdo: I think I may have nailed down the problem. When I try to run mythbackend as root, I see QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
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| [00:56:00] | achew22: | PVR-250 so its a mpeg2 output |
| [00:56:00] | sky_monkey007: | and "Failed to bind port: 6543" |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | sky_monkey007, you sure it's not already running? |
| [00:56:00] | achew22: | sky_monkey007 you have a previously running copy of mythbackend |
| [00:56:00] | achew22: | reboot or kill the process |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | achew22, use the lossless MPEG2 transcode |
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| [00:56:00] | achew22: | okay... so how do I have it cut the commercials? |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | you can tell it to auto-skip commercials |
| [00:57:00] | briand: | import the commercial flags as cutlist, then run the transcode |
| [00:57:00] | achew22: | auto-skip commercials... okay |
| [00:57:00] | achew22: | brb lets see if I can find those options |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | and auto-transcode using lossless MPEG2 transcode |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | that should do what you're looking for, I'd think |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | although not to AVI, but mplayer should be able to play no prob |
| [00:59:00] | briand: | Never, not once, have I batted around the kitty toys... so why does she think it's okay to bat around *my* toys?? |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | because she's a cat |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | cats rule the world |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | just ask them |
| [00:59:00] | briand: | perhaps that's it. |
| [01:00:00] | briand: | I should count myself lucky that she allows me to live here. |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much |
| [01:00:00] | juski_: | wow. it's right what people have been saying. video previews look fine in projectgrayhem-wide :-) |
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| [01:03:00] | juski_: | whoah it's too early in the morning for subwoofer |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | nah, no such thing |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | crank it |
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| [01:04:00] | briand: | If I had known, early on, her predeliction for the laser pointer, I'd have named her "Bullet" .. cuz she goes wherever that red dot goes. |
| [01:04:00] | briand: | hehehe |
| [01:04:00] | juski_: | so erm.. playing DVDs & videos in xine I've got green bands on the borders. not so noticable on 16:9 stuff but totally obtrusive on 4:3... I need shot of them but minimyth doesn't have xvattr :-( any way around that? |
| [01:04:00] | ** Beirdo wonders why mysql is being such a slow bitch on his PVR ** | |
| [01:04:00] | briand: | Beirdo: reindex? |
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| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | either that or apache's being slow on my webserver |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | or my stupid browser's fuckin up |
| [01:05:00] | simcop2387: | Beirdo: its whatever one makes the least sense |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh, usually |
| [01:05:00] | briand: | well... i've several hours worth of video i need to watch before it fills up my disk... any further missives from this keyboard will be from the cat. ;) check w' y'all later.. |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | have fun |
| [01:05:00] | briand: | u2 |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | get more disk |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | it's worth it |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | Asus Pundit ... no room for another drive. |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | NFS... |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | maybe I should build one of those multi-terabyte network storage systems... |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | all my recordings go over NFS |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | there ya go |
| [01:06:00] | juski_: | aha! using xxmc does away with the green borders |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | what network speed? |
| [01:06:00] | juski_: | w00t |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | 100Mbit |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | I've only got 10/100 wired here now. |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | 100Mbit switched |
| [01:07:00] | briand: | really? hmm. maybe I *will* build a network file system. |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | more than adequate |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | look at the bitrate of your recordings |
| [01:07:00] | briand: | I've got a mini mb with 4 ide channels on it... that'd be 8 400G drives, right? |
| [01:07:00] | juski_: | and how did the petshop boys get random music to play on their menus? that's what I wanna know |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | I record like 4 at a time at 6Mbit each, still have LOTs of bandwidth to spare |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | that would likely do |
| [01:08:00] | briand: | it'd be a good start... |
| [01:08:00] | briand: | now, can I put NFS mounts in my LVM ?? or will I need to rebuild/reconfigure things? |
| [01:08:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
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| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | oldrecorded has 9360 rows |
| [01:09:00] | juski_: | would that be altogether wise, even if you could put an nfs mount in your lvm? |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | umm, do LVM on the NFS server |
| [01:09:00] | briand: | Beirdo: 725 rows here. |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | then mount the logical volume :) |
| [01:10:00] | briand: | Beirdo: i would do that... |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | I've recorded 9360 shows that I've deleted already |
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| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | that's scary |
| [01:10:00] | juski_: | you know all the real techy improvements in 0.19 aside – what I really like is the proper spellings a British menu brings |
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| [01:10:00] | briand: | but then I'd have to make the mountpoint /video, and what would I do with the 300G of drivespace *in* the Pundit? store MP3 files? |
| [01:10:00] | juski_: | is/are * |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | briand, pr0n? |
| [01:10:00] | briand: | hey.. wait a minute... I _could_ store MP3 and transcoded video there... |
| [01:10:00] | briand: | hmm... |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, transcoded video... that's it :) |
| [01:11:00] | briand: | good idea. |
| [01:11:00] | briand: | glad i thought of it. |
| [01:11:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [01:11:00] | briand: | heheh. okay, I'm gonna go watch tv before you spend too much of my money... |
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| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you use nfsv3 or newer |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | (supports >2G files) |
| [01:11:00] | briand: | I'll chat with you further on this topic when the project nears... |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | sure |
| [01:12:00] | briand: | cool. |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | it works great here |
| [01:12:00] | Capt_Eye: | anyone know of a known resoluion to the MS Media Center remote control threads I've read on the forums |
| [01:12:00] | briand: | "My Tivo will record 40 hours, what does your home-built box do?" "hmm.. well, in Tivo 'Hi Quality' terms, about 6 months of video." |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:13:00] | ** briand grins. ** | |
| [01:13:00] | juski_: | briand: I know similar people at work |
| [01:13:00] | briand: | 'k. have a good evening. i'll chat atcha later |
| [01:13:00] | juski_: | only they bleat on and ON about their 'sky plus' |
| [01:13:00] | briand: | pfft. |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | I have 96h recorded right now, and am sitting at 154G of 300G free |
| [01:14:00] | juski_: | right – just gotta get the menu key working again somehow |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | I think those were the numbers |
| [01:14:00] | briand: | I have 38G free on my 300MB drive, now. |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | fix that :) |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:15:00] | juski_: | shit – it's taken me 6 hours to get the upgrade this far |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | oh wait. 154G of 400G free |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | that makes more sense |
| [01:15:00] | juski_: | 5 of that has been juggling with minimyth |
| [01:15:00] | briand: | but there's like 10 or 11 episodes of Nova, and probably half a dozen Extreme Engineering episodes that are only temporary. |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | 246G used – 96h |
| [01:15:00] | juski_: | /dev/hdd1 480721608 167152156 289150128 37% /video |
| [01:15:00] | Agrajag-: | 50 programs, using 147 GB (58 hrs 42 mins) out of 229 GB (70 GB free). |
| [01:16:00] | briand: | Agrajag-: what are you running to get that? |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | mythweb |
| [01:16:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | 129 programs, using 190 GB (96 hrs) out of 400 GB (147 GB free). |
| [01:16:00] | briand: | on which screen? |
| [01:16:00] | Agrajag-: | list recordings |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | recorded programs |
| [01:16:00] | briand: | ah, at the bottom. :) |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | I have other programs I haven't deleted in another subdir, which is why my numbers don't add up quite right |
| [01:17:00] | briand: | I was looking at the backend status screen |
| [01:18:00] | briand: | 68 programs, using 183 GB (86 hrs 39 mins) out of 220 GB (37 GB free). |
| [01:18:00] | briand: | not so bad, considering more than half of 'em are watch and throw away shows |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | you got some watching to do :) |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | as do I :) |
| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [01:19:00] | briand: | and the rest, now that there's lossless mpeg2, will get transcoded and eventually burned to DVD (after another transcode, obviously) |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | 13 episodes of E-Ring |
| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | looks like i have the highest bitrate :P |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [01:20:00] | briand: | Agrajag-: HD, I assume? |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | you may only need a re-mux, briand |
| [01:20:00] | briand: | true. |
| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | briand: nah SD dvb |
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| [01:20:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | if you record at 720x480, that's all it should take |
| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | still awesome quality |
| [01:20:00] | juski_: | mrs juski is gonna be happy – she saw the state of 0.19 earlier & was like "why isn't it filling the screen.. ugh the preview window!!! and what the fuck are those green lines all about?" |
| [01:20:00] | briand: | SD here, too... but at 480x480 |
| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | higher than dvd quality |
| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | ah.. .au digital SD is still really good |
| [01:20:00] | briand: | yup. |
| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | then there's HD dvb which i don't quite get good enough reception for |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | briand, a hint.. if you want to make DVDs, change it to a DVD resolution |
| [01:21:00] | jams: | daedius- back now |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | 720x480, 704x480, 352x480 |
| [01:21:00] | briand: | Beirdo: yes, I know. :) but I'll have to wait for some of these things to be re-ran |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | but of course ;) |
| [01:21:00] | daedius: | wb jams |
| [01:21:00] | briand: | then i'll kick it up to 'high quality' (720x480) |
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| [01:21:00] | juski_: | right that's my menu button back.. who knows why that flipped out... then just the video view to set to use folder views... |
| [01:21:00] | briand: | anyway.. as i've said four times now... i'm outta here.. laterz. |
| [01:21:00] | jams: | daedius- so what was the question again |
| [01:21:00] | daedius: | jams, I think I realized that the remote control was working, apparently it is just a keyboard! =) |
| [01:21:00] | ** briand waves... ** | |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | ciao, briand |
| [01:22:00] | juski_: | night briand |
| [01:22:00] | juski_: | jams: when you were working on the themes you had a hand in, did you ever play with the video preview window size? |
| [01:23:00] | jams: | juski_ yes |
| [01:23:00] | juski_: | did you ever notice the preview looking mono but having diagnoal bands of colour? (looks like scaling the chroma went wrong) |
| [01:23:00] | jams: | daedius- ok sounds like it's working for you |
| [01:24:00] | daedius: | yah =P making it more complicated than it was |
| [01:24:00] | jams: | can't say that every happened to me |
| [01:24:00] | juski_: | when I upgraded I set my frontend to use GANT, and the previews in that looked all screwy |
| [01:24:00] | jams: | daedius- for lirc you can use the atiusb module , at least for the firefly |
| [01:24:00] | juski_: | but in my wide theme they look like they should |
| [01:25:00] | jams: | hmm, let me try GANT |
| [01:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wow some guy told me to do some shit.. well.. now my mythbackend wont work |
| [01:25:00] | daedius: | hmm *nods* thanks jams. firefly mini apparently just seems to be a keyboard reciever |
| [01:25:00] | juski_: | Yellow-Snow: do some shit |
| [01:25:00] | daedius: | thanks jams! |
| [01:25:00] | daedius: | jams++ |
| [01:25:00] | jams: | hah that was easy |
| [01:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | echo "/usr/bin/vncserver">/etc/init.d/vncserver |
| [01:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ln -s /etc/init.d/vncserver /etc/rc5.d/S99vncserver |
| [01:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | chmod +x /etc/init.d/vncserver |
| [01:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | he told me to do that and well.. now its fed.. and i rm those 2 files |
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| [01:27:00] | jams: | juski_ looks ok to me |
| [01:27:00] | juski_: | jams: okees. might be a driver related thing too |
| [01:27:00] | jams: | juski_ i did see something similiar to that when I compiled without mmx support |
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| [01:28:00] | juski_: | if it was something like that though you'd kind of expect it to affect every theme |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, what to eat... |
| [01:28:00] | jams: | thats true |
| [01:28:00] | juski_: | unless it's integer related... i.e. the size of the preview in my theme divides better or something |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | third-last solid meal for a while... |
| [01:29:00] | jams: | Beirdo- eh I was eating almost normally withing two days |
| [01:29:00] | juski_: | Beirdo.. general or local? |
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| [01:29:00] | jams: | hopefully you don't wake up in the middle of the op like I did |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | dunno which, unfortunately |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | well, I might be OK quickly |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | or I might be out of luck for a week like my sister |
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| [01:30:00] | juski_: | heh. I've seen some sorry states after the ole wiz extractions |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | she was a chipmunk for a week |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:30:00] | jams: | the first few hours when your still bleeding is the worst |
| [01:31:00] | juski_: | sounds lovely |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, that will suck |
| [01:32:00] | juski_: | I had my jaw broken badly when I was really young – had to be wired up for about 2 months.. I mostly sucked everything. the bleeding after the accident wasn't too nice either |
| [01:32:00] | Beirdo: | yuck |
| [01:32:00] | Beirdo: | I have soups (no lumps), V8 juice, etc |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | I should be good |
| [01:33:00] | juski_: | my parents bought a liquidizer |
| [01:33:00] | juski_: | cereal was the most fun to have ;-) |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | yeah for wired jaw, that's important |
| [01:34:00] | juski_: | and I have something to blame for me ending up not looking as handsome as I might have ;-) |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | other than genetics? |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | hhe |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | sorry |
| [01:34:00] | juski_: | lol |
| [01:34:00] | juski_: | you've been to my home town then? |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh, not unless you were born in Heathrow |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | it's the only part of UK I've been to so far |
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| [01:35:00] | juski_: | I need to travel more |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | me too |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, still need to figure out what to eat |
| [01:36:00] | juski_: | one last adventurous holiday before setting roots down properly |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | I'll be having one AFTER setting down roots :) |
| [01:36:00] | juski_: | saying that I called visiting marrakech 'adventurous' |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | well, I dunno how adventurous we'll go, but I want to take her to Europe |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | but that has to wait a while, I'm sure |
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| [01:38:00] | juski_: | you've not lived til you've almost got totally lost in the big souk in marrakech at dusk |
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| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | Morocco isn't high on my list right now |
| [01:38:00] | juski_: | nah it wouldn't be on mine either |
| [01:38:00] | juski_: | not just cos I've been there |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | Vienna would be higher on the list. |
| [01:39:00] | juski_: | hmm I can see the attraction |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | been there... |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | want to go to the staatsoper though |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | my coworkers didn't want to go to the opera. wusses |
| [01:40:00] | juski_: | went to barcelona a couple of years ago & OD |
| [01:40:00] | juski_: | overdosed on Gaudian thingies... |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | ?? |
| [01:40:00] | juski_: | Gaudi |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | BRB |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | need food. |
| [01:41:00] | juski_: | gonna shut up shopp shortly.. I can safely declare 0.19 fully working I reckon |
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| [01:46:00] | headtailgrep: | hello. |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | hello |
| [01:48:00] | headtailgrep: | any tips for those who want to stretch their tv-out to reduce the amount of wasted 'black bars' on screen? |
| [01:48:00] | headtailgrep: | (i'm using a Nvidia card for tv-out) |
| [01:48:00] | Juski: | install nvidia-settings |
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| [01:49:00] | Juski: | that has a slider for 'overscan' so you can make it fit your TV better |
| [01:49:00] | quink: | hey. any gentoo users here running .19? |
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| [01:49:00] | Juski: | quink: yup |
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| [01:49:00] | quink: | did it compile properly for you? i got an error at hte end with the useradd bit |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | well I'm running 0.19 so that kinda tells you the install succeeded |
| [01:50:00] | quink: | http://pastebin.com/560534 |
| [01:50:00] | quink: | ah good opint. |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | went without a hitch (apart from /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt now being /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt) |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | quink: make a note of that ^^^ |
| [01:51:00] | quink: | heh |
| [01:51:00] | Juski: | quink: weird error |
| [01:51:00] | Juski: | since when did the ebuild see fit to make a user for you? |
| [01:51:00] | headtailgrep: | thanks |
| [01:52:00] | quink: | at the end |
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| [01:53:00] | Juski: | erm... maybe the useradd function is different on your install |
| [01:53:00] | Pitchin_uk: | hi guys in myth ive dont seem to have any tv playing when i try and watch tv (jusk a black screen) |
| [01:53:00] | quink: | Juski: it shouldn't be thats a thing from the ebuild, not myth. i think |
| [01:54:00] | Juski: | quink: I already had the mythtv user – I was upgrading from 0.18 |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | quink: looks like the syntax of the useradd command on my system is the same as yours... so erm... try adding a mythtv user yourself then repeat the emerge |
| [01:55:00] | quink: | yeah. |
| [01:56:00] | eiggirC: | I'm not screwing with my 0.18 box for a while |
| [01:56:00] | eiggirC: | am I lazy? |
| [01:56:00] | quink: | whats hte point of adding a mythtv user? |
| [01:56:00] | Juski: | quink: makes life easier |
| [01:56:00] | quink: | i just made a shell script that ran as my default user |
| [01:56:00] | quink: | it'd start it on the computer and leave it running |
| [01:57:00] | Juski: | I don't know the exact reasons... it's just the 'proper' way so I did it like that |
| [01:57:00] | quink: | oh. |
| [01:57:00] | Juski: | course you can run mythfrontend as any user you like |
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| [01:57:00] | quink: | ah |
| [01:58:00] | Juski: | mythbackend likes to run as mythtv, but can be run as any user that has the right access rights & group membership |
| [01:59:00] | quink: | i just wish i could get this to display right on my bigscreen tv without lots of fucking around |
| [01:59:00] | quink: | and by right i mean i had to stretch it all kinds of weird ways to fill the screen |
| [01:59:00] | Juski: | quink: what's your video card? |
| [01:59:00] | Juski: | and your TV aspect ratio? |
| [02:00:00] | quink: | widescreen |
| [02:00:00] | quink: | and ati 9200se |
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| [02:00:00] | Juski: | I'm not too good with ATI cards... |
| [02:00:00] | quink: | i just went to the x config file and manually set stretch options |
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| [02:00:00] | quink: | was a pain cause it didn't seem to have any rhyme or reason to how it stretched |
| [02:00:00] | quink: | it shifted and stretched, seemingly |
| [02:00:00] | Kelerion: | evening all |
| [02:00:00] | Juski: | but.. have a look in www.juski.co.uk/xorg.conf for the DISPLAYSIZE lines |
| [02:00:00] | Juski: | evening Kelerion |
| [02:00:00] | quink: | cool, i shall |
| [02:00:00] | Amy-21: | Howdy all. I was wondering if there is any place that I can go online to find out modlines for my type of tv (analog tv) |
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| [02:01:00] | quink: | anyways back in 15, its compiling again |
| [02:01:00] | Kelerion: | Amy-21, theres a link or two on the wiki |
| [02:01:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: there are lots online. which modeline you need depends on 3 things: your VGA card, your TV aspect ratio & the resolution you want to run at (depends on PAL or NTSC) |
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| [02:02:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: not long finished upgrading to 0.19 |
| [02:02:00] | Juski: | started at 7pm |
| [02:02:00] | Amy-21: | Awesome. I have been playing with my XF86... and i can not get this little line almost look like a sync line fixed! |
| [02:02:00] | Kelerion: | oh – how'd it go? was pretty painless here |
| [02:02:00] | Amy-21: | i am going to check out that wiki |
| [02:02:00] | seanmccann: | How do I change my freq table? |
| [02:02:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: backend went smoothly |
| [02:02:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:HOWTO |
| [02:02:00] | Juski: | frontend was a _bitch_ |
| [02:02:00] | Kelerion: | oh? how come? |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | fiddly little things like minimyth not having libdvdcss |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | and their config file changing loads since I last upgraded |
| [02:03:00] | Kelerion: | only problem I had with the frontend was mythdvd not compiling.. but I use an external dvd player anyways so wasn't so much a big deal |
| [02:03:00] | Kelerion: | I've never tried minimyth |
| [02:03:00] | Kelerion: | you got a link for it? |
| [02:04:00] | Juski: | and one final thing... green lines in Xine on the borders |
| [02:04:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: www.linpvr.org/forum |
| [02:04:00] | Amy-21: | Juski – you said that it depends on PAL or NTSC...If i am running an NTSC tv would I want something like 640 x 480? |
| [02:04:00] | seanmccann: | I put the wrong freq table and can not find a way to change it. The FAQ and how tos do not show how to do this. How can I? |
| [02:04:00] | Kelerion: | oh right.. it's an epia thing? |
| [02:04:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: in theory you need it as close to 720x480 as you can get it |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | aye it's for EPIAs |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | support is creeping in for other boards though |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | http://linpvr.org/dnload/ |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | they don't do themselves any favours by not updating their front page though |
| [02:05:00] | Kelerion: | any reason it's released with 2.4 kernels? or is it just a "it works" thing? |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | I didn't know they used 2.4kernels |
| [02:06:00] | Amy-21: | Oh wow I didnt know that at all! I have to do some more reading then and figure out how to do a whole differnt resolution. I was just using a XF86Config i found on some wiki out there for the fx5200 |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | it works, so I don't care |
| [02:06:00] | Amy-21: | and i thought i did my reading...grr |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: if you're using nvidia, look into nvidia-settings for tuning the size of your TV out with overscan ;-) |
| [02:07:00] | Juski: | set your settings in that, save em.. then add nvidia-settings --load-settings-only (or something) in your .xinitrc |
| [02:07:00] | Amy-21: | the size looks pretty right using the one that was on the knoppmyth wiki it is just has a bit of a jitter or sync line |
| [02:08:00] | Juski: | a tiny smidge of overscan might put that right then |
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| [02:08:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: can you post your X config file into a pastebin for me to have a peek at? |
| [02:08:00] | Amy-21: | pastebin? |
| [02:08:00] | Kelerion: | www.pastebin.com |
| [02:09:00] | Beirdo: | pastebin.ca or pastebin.com |
| [02:09:00] | Amy-21: | awesome |
| [02:09:00] | Juski: | wb Beirdo |
| [02:09:00] | Kelerion: | universal clipboard.. saves people pasting thousands of lines into here |
| [02:09:00] | Juski: | also saves people getting kicked for flooding :) |
| [02:09:00] | Amy-21: | that is awesome! |
| [02:09:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. that too.. lol |
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| [02:10:00] | Kelerion: | personally.. I think it's one of the great ideas for a website |
| [02:10:00] | Beirdo: | some haddock, yum |
| [02:10:00] | Kelerion: | not too many original ideas still about out there |
| [02:10:00] | flindet_: | speaking of yum... |
| [02:10:00] | flindet_: | I'm suffering from dependency hell. |
| [02:10:00] | Juski: | fishy distro? |
| [02:11:00] | flindet_: | Error: Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/gst-register-0.8 is needed by package gstreamer-plugins |
| [02:11:00] | flindet_: | I've been stumped on this for over a week |
| [02:11:00] | flindet_: | I can't figure out how to resolve this |
| [02:11:00] | Beirdo: | no clue |
| [02:11:00] | flindet_: | Can anyone help? |
| [02:12:00] | Juski: | flindet_: some good reading here by the look of it: http://warpedvisions.org/ |
| [02:12:00] | Kelerion: | I managed to get my machine is such a dependency hell this afternoon... I flattened and re-installed.. so I'm not the person to help.. lol |
| [02:12:00] | Amy-21: | is it okay to post that url in here? |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | yeh fire away |
| [02:13:00] | Amy-21: | http://pastebin.com/560552 |
| [02:13:00] | Kelerion: | well it wasn't dependency.. I just couldn't uninstall an xorg-driver |
| [02:13:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, after you paste to the pastebin, you put one URL. much nicer than flooding a channel :) |
| [02:13:00] | Amy-21: | I will be honest the XF86config just confuses the heck out me |
| [02:13:00] | Amy-21: | I just bookmarked that site |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: see this line here: # Option "TVOverScan" "0.5" ? |
| [02:13:00] | Amy-21: | AWESOME idea |
| [02:13:00] | Amy-21: | yes i do |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | uncomment that like |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | *line |
| [02:14:00] | Juski: | if it's almost spot on as it is, try 0.2 to start off with |
| [02:14:00] | Amy-21: | okay |
| [02:14:00] | Kelerion: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=XF86ConfigForFX5200HowTo |
| [02:14:00] | Juski: | overscan 'zooms' your TV output into the desktop area so you don't get black borders |
| [02:14:00] | flindet_: | Juski: They're describing the exact problem I'm having |
| [02:14:00] | flindet_: | this could very well fix it. thanks |
| [02:15:00] | Amy-21: | there was just a bit of a blue line up on top and left like maybe a pixel width...i didnt know if i should have moved that in the mythtv setup |
| [02:15:00] | Juski: | thanks for using google |
| [02:15:00] | Amy-21: | Kelerion – That is where i got this config file from |
| [02:15:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: that's easy to move back |
| [02:16:00] | flindet_: | Juski: Heh.. I tried to google for my error. have been for a week! but didn't come up with the magic to find this page. sorry |
| [02:16:00] | Juski: | flindet: you know what I searched on? |
| [02:16:00] | Amy-21: | okay i just uncommented that and restarted gdm |
| [02:16:00] | Juski: | flindet_: http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox . . . oogle+Search |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | gst-register-0.8 |
| [02:17:00] | Kelerion: | ok – am gonna try again to setup my xorg.. so will be in and out.. |
| [02:17:00] | Amy-21: | okay would .2 have made it smaller than when i had that commented out? |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | ookies Kelerion |
| [02:17:00] | Amy-21: | does that just work like a multiplier? |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: just a tad bigger |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | I think... |
| [02:17:00] | Amy-21: | hmmm i must be going nuts because i think it looks smaller |
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| [02:17:00] | Juski: | well try a bigger number;-) |
| [02:18:00] | Amy-21: | and those sync type of lines are there |
| [02:18:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: maybe the answer isn't a custom modeline |
| [02:19:00] | Juski: | you can use a 4:3 mode like 800x600 & correct it to fit your TV with the overscan setting |
| [02:19:00] | Juski: | then if your TV is 16:9, use the DISPLAYSIZE attribute in the X config file, as in mine here www.juski.co.uk/xorg.conf |
| [02:19:00] | flindet_: | well, that resolved my dependency problem, but for some reason I'm missing a key now |
| [02:20:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: how do you mean 'sync type of lines' anyway? |
| [02:20:00] | Amy-21: | It is just like a bit of a jitter |
| [02:20:00] | Amy-21: | but not like the entire screen |
| [02:21:00] | Juski: | where are these lines? |
| [02:21:00] | Amy-21: | like there is just a few lines that are kind of running through it |
| [02:21:00] | Amy-21: | kind of center screen sometimes sometimes bottom |
| [02:21:00] | Juski: | on the menus & stuff? |
| [02:21:00] | Amy-21: | sorry...i can see it on the menus a bit but more noticable on the tv or recording |
| [02:22:00] | Juski: | is it more noticeable on moving things? |
| [02:22:00] | Juski: | like _lots_ more? |
| [02:22:00] | Amy-21: | well like for example there was a guy just sitting on a couch and i can see the lines...its not like the motion blur |
| [02:22:00] | Juski: | so it's not an interlacing artifact |
| [02:22:00] | Amy-21: | it is just a bit of jitter on the entire screen |
| [02:23:00] | Amy-21: | like it is some lines that go across from left to right |
| [02:23:00] | Amy-21: | its really hard to explain... |
| [02:24:00] | Juski: | sounds a little bit strange |
| [02:24:00] | Juski: | if it's noticeable on static stuff then it isn't that you need to deinterlace |
| [02:25:00] | Amy-21: | yea i have been searching forums and trying all sorts of things |
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| [02:25:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: what mode are you using in X ? |
| [02:25:00] | Amy-21: | is there a way to see that? |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | xdpyinfo |
| [02:26:00] | Amy-21: | I will admit i have basic linux knowledge...I program on it at work but not good at setting it up |
| [02:26:00] | Juski: | don't worry about it. nobody becomes an expert overnight |
| [02:26:00] | Juski: | this time 14 months ago I knew how to cd & ls.. that was it |
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| [02:27:00] | Juski: | looks like by default your video driver will be set to 800x600 |
| [02:27:00] | jams: | Juski- were you talking earlier about a remote frontend not being able to FFW/rrw ? |
| [02:28:00] | Amy-21: | hmmm i might have to hook up a monitor and switch off that output to svideo because i cant see that on the tv clearly |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | jams: yeh.. TZ setting |
| [02:28:00] | Agrajag-: | anyone here happen to have a spare nvidia pci card? :) |
| [02:28:00] | jams: | let me check |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: vnc comes in handy for that |
| [02:28:00] | Amy-21: | really hard to see the text in the terminal i opend up |
| [02:29:00] | Amy-21: | i know vnc! i will try setting that up...i saw a howto on the knopmyth wiki |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | jams: apparently time sync between machines is important too |
| [02:29:00] | jams: | time is synced, but somehow this box is Pacific instead of CDT |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | jams: that'd do it |
| [02:30:00] | Juski: | you try to FF & the time indicator jumps around but the video stays still more or less |
| [02:30:00] | jams: | yeah, just acts like the recorded markup table is not there |
| [02:30:00] | Juski: | aye. timezone |
| [02:30:00] | jams: | about to find out |
| [02:31:00] | Juski: | it shocked me, that. I would've thought myth worked out its timings in relative terms |
| [02:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc: question for you.. I have an onboard x300.. and a pci express x700 pro.. in what order would you put monitors 1,2 and 3 and on which outputs? |
| [02:31:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [02:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I got all three monitors displaying something today |
| [02:31:00] | kormoc: | my gut would be pci express first, then onboard, but knowing ati, it could be opposite. |
| [02:31:00] | kormoc: | as for the order, I'd do vga then dvi |
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| [02:32:00] | Amy-21: | Juski – I am installing the VNC...should hopefully be just a few moments :) |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: cool |
| [02:32:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I *have* to have the x300 (onboard) as the primary according to the bios.. but the x700 gives far better performance |
| [02:32:00] | Kelerion-flux: | if I have the x700 as primary.. linux doesn't even see the x300 in lspci |
| [02:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | at the moment – monitor 1 is x700 pri.. 2 is x300.. and 3 is x700 secondary |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | wow, odd |
| [02:33:00] | jams: | yep that was it |
| [02:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | but.. I'm beginning to think that isn't the best setup for xorg |
| [02:34:00] | Amy-21: | wow i did that howto perfectly :) |
| [02:34:00] | Kelerion-flux: | because xorg (I think) want's to use x700 secondary as an extension to x700 primary |
| [02:34:00] | Kelerion-flux: | as it would if it was the only card |
| [02:35:00] | Kelerion-flux: | ie: xinerama |
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| [02:35:00] | Kelerion-flux: | so am I right in thinking x700 pri should be 1.. x700 sec should be 2.. and x300 should be 3? |
| [02:36:00] | Amy-21: | Juski – okay I did that command in a terminal and what exactly is this telling me. |
| [02:36:00] | Amy-21: | i see it saying stuff about colors but i dont see a resolution |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | rrrr |
| [02:38:00] | Juski: | xdpyinfo |grep dimensions :-) |
| [02:39:00] | Amy-21: | 800x600 |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | as I suspected |
| [02:39:00] | Amy-21: | okay just to learn what does that grep command do? I have seen that in a few places |
| [02:39:00] | Kelerion-flux: | actually.. if x300 has to be primary card in bios.. it should be x300=1, x700pri=2 and x700sec=3 I think |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | grep searches for strings |
| [02:39:00] | Amy-21: | cool thank you |
| [02:40:00] | Juski: | it'll pull the line out containing the text you put in the search string |
| [02:40:00] | Amy-21: | wow that is very useful! |
| [02:40:00] | Amy-21: | i will have to remember that one |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | okee.. so try commenting out lines 77 and 80 |
| [02:41:00] | Amy-21: | i am looking at the nvidia-settings app now...how does that correlate to the XF86config file. |
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| [02:41:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: it's for fine-tuning |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | try commenting out the custom modelines & see how you get on |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | and play with the overscan value to see how close you can get it to filling the screen |
| [02:42:00] | Amy-21: | okay i will do that |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | btw valid values of overscan in the X config file go from 0.0 to 1.0 in 0.1 steps |
| [02:42:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc: http://pastebin.com/560588 thats what I have so far.. all look ok? |
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| [02:43:00] | Juski: | jees it's getting early |
| [02:43:00] | JimBowen: | Bah it's friday night :@ |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | achieved more than I set out to do tonight (thankfully) and mrs Juski will be happy with mythtv again... she really didn't get a good 1st impression of 0.19 |
| [02:44:00] | quitte_: | ugh. it's saturday? what happened to friday? |
| [02:44:00] | Kelerion-flux: | it's Saturday morning.. lol |
| [02:44:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion-flux, yeah, looks nice |
| [02:44:00] | JimBowen: | Kelerion-flux, true.. :/ |
| [02:44:00] | Juski: | think I've earned my saturday night beers tonight |
| [02:45:00] | Juski: | btw Kelerion: I chickened out of upgrading twice today |
| [02:45:00] | Amy-21: | I think I have the size pretty darn close to full screen |
| [02:45:00] | Amy-21: | just that bit of a flicker thing |
| [02:45:00] | Amy-21: | is that something i can play with in the nvidia-settings? |
| [02:46:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: it's prolly best to take the size slightly past the edges of the screen so you have no black borders |
| [02:46:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: are you in the USA/Canada? |
| [02:47:00] | Amy-21: | I am in the USA |
| [02:47:00] | Amy-21: | i took it past the borders a bit |
| [02:47:00] | Amy-21: | i am at .6 |
| [02:47:00] | Juski: | right... so your video standard is right anyway |
| [02:47:00] | Juski: | NTSC-M |
| [02:47:00] | Juski: | in nvidia-settings there's a setting for deflicker |
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| [02:48:00] | Juski: | it softens the image a bit to remove annoying flickery bits... |
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| [02:49:00] | Kelerion-flux: | ok – moved the monitors around |
| [02:49:00] | Amy-21: | i see the tv flicker slide bar... so i am thinking the higher number i go the more it is effecting the flicker? |
| [02:49:00] | Amy-21: | like it is currently at 127 |
| [02:49:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc: 3rd monitors is a clone of the 2nd at the moment (and at a lower res) why would that be? |
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| [02:49:00] | Amy-21: | so i would want to move that up |
| [02:49:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: yeh |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | move it up so that the flicker juuuust disappears |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | if you can get it to disappear that is |
| [02:50:00] | Kelerion-flux: | do I need an extra <screen> section for the 3rd monitor? |
| [02:50:00] | Amy-21: | do i need to restart the X server after each change i did with the nvidia settings? |
| [02:50:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion-flux, yup, you do |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: no |
| [02:51:00] | Amy-21: | okay |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | did you make it better? |
| [02:51:00] | Amy-21: | i am starting myth backup |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | ah |
| [02:52:00] | Juski: | well, when you're done making adjustments with nvidia-settings, make sure it saves the settings |
| [02:52:00] | Amy-21: | ehhh it didnt look like it did anything |
| [02:52:00] | Kelerion-flux: | and an extra <device> section for the second output of the x700? |
| [02:52:00] | Juski: | Amy-21: see if you can adjust it with mythtv running |
| [02:53:00] | Amy-21: | is there a button to get mythv in a window mode? |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | settings > appearance... somewhere in the pages there... 'run mythfrontend in a window' |
| [02:53:00] | Amy-21: | okay cool |
| [02:53:00] | Amy-21: | i will do that |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | anyway I was about to say |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | if nvidia-settings makes a useful difference, rebooting or restarting gdm will lose the changes |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | but if you put the line |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | nvidia-settings -l |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | (thats – the letter 'l') |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | in your .xinitrc file |
| [02:55:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc: ok – so that gives me this: http://pastebin.com/560593 |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | it'll load the config every time |
| [02:55:00] | Kelerion-flux: | no change |
| [02:55:00] | Amy-21: | okay awesome! |
| [02:55:00] | Amy-21: | i will play around with this and see what i can do |
| [02:55:00] | Amy-21: | Thank you for all of your help it has been GREAT |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | go for it |
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| [02:55:00] | Juski: | np... just spreading the er.. joy |
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| [02:55:00] | Juski: | :) |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | right I'm off to bed |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | see you guys |
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| [02:56:00] | Capt_Eye: | anyone running the Media Center remote on their mythtv box? |
| [02:59:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc: sorry to be a pain dude.. betcha wish you hadn't offered help now.. :) |
| [03:00:00] | ** Kelerion-flux decides to give kormoc a break for now :P ** | |
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| [03:01:00] | Kelerion-flux: | anyone else here *really* good with xorg and ati drivers in a multi-headed setup? |
| [03:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion-flux, tis okay, I'm just doin chores :P |
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| [03:01:00] | MrEntropy: | yo |
| [03:01:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I just finished my chores.. had to cook .. lol |
| [03:01:00] | MrEntropy: | where is the inbuilt dvd player in .19? |
| [03:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion-flux, you also need a second xorg section for the second head of the videocard |
| [03:01:00] | Kelerion-flux: | done that |
| [03:01:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I have a second device and screen section for that head |
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| [03:03:00] | kormoc: | odd |
| [03:03:00] | kormoc: | what's the log say? |
| [03:04:00] | Kelerion-flux: | absolutely nothing.. want to see? |
| [03:04:00] | kormoc: | sure |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion-flux: | 560606 |
| [03:06:00] | Kelerion-flux: | oops |
| [03:06:00] | Kelerion-flux: | http://pastebin.com/560606 |
| [03:07:00] | Kelerion-flux: | hey.. pastebin has a limit.. |
| [03:08:00] | Kelerion-flux: | second part: http://pastebin.com/560609 |
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| [03:11:00] | nasa: | Ok, I have worked through a bunch of issues today with my myth box, but this one is interesting... When I change channels it mutes the sound. Really... |
| [03:12:00] | Kelerion-flux: | what does the "Screen 0" "Screen 1" option in the device settings of xorg do? |
| [03:12:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I tried them earlier but they just broke it |
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| [03:14:00] | nasa: | Kelerion-flux: each screen describes a display (or real life — a different monitor). So for some of us with tv-out — you may have 2 screens (1 for tv 1 for monitor) |
| [03:15:00] | Kelerion-flux: | isn't that what the "Screen" section is for? |
| [03:16:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I keep seeing "Screen" as an *option* is the "Device" section when I keep looking at various xorg.conf's |
| [03:17:00] | nasa: | you can have multiple "Screen" sections with "Identifier "screen0" or "Identifier "screen1" and so on... |
| [03:17:00] | Amy-21: | darn that flickr thing didnt fix anything |
| [03:20:00] | Kelerion-flux: | nasa.. as an example.. look at http://www.paranoidbsd.org/x40/xorg.conf.37.txt |
| [03:20:00] | Kelerion-flux: | and look at the "Device" sections |
| [03:20:00] | Kelerion-flux: | there's a screen option with integers in that do not relate to the identifiers |
| [03:22:00] | ** nasa is looking at it right now. But will have to explain it after dinner... :} ** | |
| [03:22:00] | Kelerion-flux: | okies |
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| [03:27:00] | Kelerion-flux: | we have anyone else here that is really good with xorg.conf's? lol |
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| [03:36:00] | Weezey: | yum update mythtv-suite gives me: Error: Missing Dependency: mythtv-frontend-api = 0.18 is needed by mythstream so I can't update |
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| [03:47:00] | beernutz: | hey, i have had a crash on my LVM partition that held all my recordings. I have fixed this now, but all videos are gone. How do i then tell mythtv to clear out all recordings? |
| [03:49:00] | beernutz: | can anyone help please? |
| [03:50:00] | Kelerion-flux: | empty the 'recorded' table in mythconverg |
| [03:50:00] | beernutz: | is that all then? |
| [03:50:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yu |
| [03:50:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup |
| [03:51:00] | beernutz: | cool. one more q |
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| [03:51:00] | Kelerion-flux: | might want to empty oldrecorded as well if you want them re-recorded |
| [03:51:00] | beernutz: | it still thinks the free space is what was there before too. does it get this from teh database too? |
| [03:51:00] | Kelerion-flux: | nope.. calculates it as-when I think |
| [03:52:00] | beernutz: | so it will recalc once the database is cleared? |
| [03:52:00] | Kelerion-flux: | empty the tables first.. then see what it says |
| [03:52:00] | beernutz: | k.. on it now. thank you |
| [03:52:00] | Weezey: | so long and thanks for all the fish. |
| [03:56:00] | beernutz: | k, that cleared the recordings.. thank you |
| [03:56:00] | Kelerion-flux: | np |
| [03:56:00] | beernutz: | it still thinks the freespace is wrong tho |
| [03:56:00] | beernutz: | hmmm |
| [03:57:00] | Kelerion-flux: | don't know about that..sorry |
| [03:57:00] | tweak_st: | see if df gives you the same number |
| [03:59:00] | beernutz: | ya.. strange .. df is reporting same thing. not myths fault. i was just SURE i had dont ethe lvm right. *sigh*. thanks for the help guys.. |
| [03:59:00] | beernutz: | was really nervous about clearing recording db.. |
| [04:00:00] | Kelerion-flux: | always a good idea to make a backup of the db first |
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| [04:01:00] | skone: | hows 0.19? |
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| [04:03:00] | Kelerion-flux: | wonderful here |
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| [04:03:00] | skone: | worth the upgrade? |
| [04:03:00] | Kelerion-flux: | depends on how you use myth.. you use livetv a lot? |
| [04:03:00] | skone: | no |
| [04:03:00] | quitte_: | nice – but seems a little overrated to me. if your distributor is going to provide it you might as well wait |
| [04:03:00] | skone: | I never was crazy about the live tv |
| [04:03:00] | Kelerion-flux: | well.. still worth the upgrade |
| [04:04:00] | skone: | is the live tv better? |
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| [04:04:00] | Kelerion-flux: | *much* |
| [04:04:00] | skone: | hows the channel changing? |
| [04:04:00] | Kelerion-flux: | you seen the feature list? |
| [04:04:00] | skone: | na, I was looking for it now |
| [04:04:00] | Kelerion-flux: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.19 |
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| [04:05:00] | skone: | is it faster changing channels? |
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| [04:05:00] | Kelerion-flux: | for most people |
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| [04:06:00] | alainm_: | whats the best way to install myth, |
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| [04:06:00] | skone: | mine is working pretty good, I hate to mess with it |
| [04:06:00] | Kelerion-flux: | alainm: depends on your preferred distro |
| [04:06:00] | alainm_: | i got me a new shuttle mini pc and want to get it up and running |
| [04:06:00] | alainm_: | i am a big fan of kubuntu |
| [04:07:00] | skone: | Kelerion-flux: how is mythweb? |
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| [04:08:00] | rav3r: | i am copying a file from a windows share, and all the sudden i am getting cp: cannot open for reading: Permission denied |
| [04:08:00] | Kelerion-flux: | skone: a *bit* harder to setup.. and doesn't *look* much different.. but is technically better |
| [04:08:00] | rav3r: | it's worked before |
| [04:08:00] | skone: | Kelerion-flux: does it have any way of searching for recordings based on interests? |
| [04:08:00] | skone: | thats what I was wanting |
| [04:09:00] | Kelerion-flux: | sure.. use a category or regex search |
| [04:10:00] | skone: | you couldnt do that before could you? |
| [04:10:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup |
| [04:10:00] | skone: | how? |
| [04:12:00] | Kelerion-flux: | search on "/^food/" |
| [04:12:00] | skone: | oh yeah, I did know that |
| [04:13:00] | skone: | I just liked the preconfigured ones in the front end |
| [04:13:00] | skone: | sometimes I dont know what category I want |
| [04:13:00] | Kelerion-flux: | well.. you can setup a new search if the pre-defined searches if you want |
| [04:14:00] | skone: | yeah I figured that |
| [04:14:00] | skone: | just never went through the trouble |
| [04:14:00] | Kelerion-flux: | you can do what you want.. if you know your sql you can build up pretty complex queries |
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| [04:15:00] | skone: | another question while I am thinking about |
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| [04:16:00] | skone: | if I record something in the past and a duplicate show comes on, it wont record it |
| [04:16:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup |
| [04:16:00] | skone: | but after a certain amount of time, I would like to delete that show, and still have it not record it |
| [04:16:00] | skone: | that make sense? |
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| [04:16:00] | Kelerion-flux: | thats what it does |
| [04:17:00] | skone: | right, it doesnt record it |
| [04:17:00] | skone: | because I already have it recorded |
| [04:17:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yep |
| [04:17:00] | skone: | but, I would like to be able to delete the file |
| [04:17:00] | winga: | it puts that episode on a "do not record" list of sorts |
| [04:17:00] | skone: | and still have it not record in the future |
| [04:17:00] | winga: | it won't |
| [04:17:00] | Kelerion-flux: | you can delete it.. it stores what you record in a table called oldrecorded |
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| [04:18:00] | skone: | so if I delete the file, is the episode still in the "do not record" list? |
| [04:18:00] | Kelerion-flux: | so it doesn't record it again after you delete the file |
| [04:18:00] | skone: | ahh |
| [04:18:00] | skone: | nice |
| [04:18:00] | skone: | didnt realize that |
| [04:18:00] | skone: | I have just been saving them forever |
| [04:18:00] | winga: | no need |
| [04:19:00] | winga: | thats another reason why it is recommended to back up your database |
| [04:19:00] | skone: | any easy way to view that database? |
| [04:19:00] | winga: | so that you don't lost that list |
| [04:19:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yup |
| [04:19:00] | Kelerion-flux: | "previously recorded" |
| [04:19:00] | Kelerion-flux: | in the manage recording screen |
| [04:19:00] | skone: | ok cool |
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| [04:20:00] | Kelerion-flux: | manage recordings – menu..even |
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| [04:22:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc: I have all screens.. displaying things in the right order.. so am getting there.. it's still a little borked.. but damn close :) |
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| [04:23:00] | kormoc: | yay! |
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| [04:24:00] | Kelerion-flux: | my xorg.conf is getting more complicated lol... but it's worth it :) |
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| [04:25:00] | Kelerion-flux: | monitor 3 is still at the wrong res.. and the mouse doesn't display on monitor 1.. and it freezes when I actually try to *do* anything.. like move a window.. but am getting there.. lol |
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| [04:27:00] | Beirdo: | adante's having issues today |
| [04:27:00] | Kelerion-flux: | any idea what these mean? |
| [04:27:00] | Kelerion-flux: | Symbol firegl_PM4Alloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved! |
| [04:27:00] | Kelerion-flux: | Symbol DRILock from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved! |
| [04:27:00] | Kelerion-flux: | Symbol DRIUnlock from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved! |
| [04:28:00] | Kelerion-flux: | theres hundreds of them |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | means you're missing something |
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| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm going to bed |
| [04:28:00] | dtm: | Kelerion-flux: maybe you need to reinstall your ATI driver |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | adante, fix your crappy client :) |
| [04:29:00] | Kelerion-flux: | it *only* happens when I try to specify fglrx as the driver for both cards |
| [04:29:00] | dtm: | Kelerion-flux: google em |
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| [04:29:00] | Kelerion-flux: | if I specify fglrx for one and radeon for another.. it works.. kinda.. so I know the driver is fine |
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| [04:31:00] | nasa: | Kelerion-flux: did you see what I left for you? |
| [04:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | yes.. you get my reply? |
| [04:31:00] | nasa: | ah.. nope. |
| [04:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | <nasa> Your example is incomplete. it doesn't describe the CRT... |
| [04:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | <Kelerion-flux> all monitors 17" lcd's.. onboard x300 (monitor 1).. x700 pro dual-head (2 and 3) |
| [04:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | <Kelerion-flux> that fixed the cloning problem.. thanks |
| [04:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | <Kelerion-flux> and there was me thinking that was what BusID was for.. lol |
| [04:32:00] | nasa: | ok, cool |
| [04:32:00] | Kelerion-flux: | I have all the 3 monitors displaying things in the right order :) |
| [04:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | the "Screen 0" and "Screen 1" on the x700 device sections worked |
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| [04:36:00] | ** nasa hopes his question is as easy... ** | |
| [04:36:00] | chuckyp: | Need a little help getting my remote working with .19. |
| [04:36:00] | nasa: | amixer gives me this: Mixer attach default error: Permission denied — how do I fix this? |
| [04:36:00] | Kelerion-flux: | easy? I've been trying to get linux working on this damn machine for over 6 months! lol |
| [04:36:00] | chuckyp: | irw is reading the remote mythtv is sending channel change scripts to the external box. But the receiver is not using any of the input in the frontend. |
| [04:36:00] | ** nasa feels Kelerion-flux's pain ** | |
| [04:36:00] | Kelerion-flux: | you have permission to access the "audio" group? |
| [04:37:00] | Kelerion-flux: | or – whatever your trying to do – does it work as root? |
| [04:38:00] | chuckyp: | brb have to restartx |
| [04:38:00] | Kelerion-flux: | on my ubuntu box, at least, it's called the "audio" group |
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| [04:38:00] | nasa: | I'm using mandriva (and am looking right now) |
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| [04:41:00] | chuckyp: | Okay back. |
| [04:41:00] | chuckyp: | Question for anyone. Why would mythtv frontend not accept signals from my remote if irw is reading it etc... |
| [04:42:00] | Kyler: | We have closed captions now, right? I've enabled them but I'm not seeing anything. |
| [04:42:00] | Kelerion-flux: | because you don't have an lircrc file? |
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| [04:43:00] | briand: | Kyler: you've enabled them in MythTV? |
| [04:43:00] | chuckyp: | Kelerion-flux, lircrc file k let me check on that. |
| [04:43:00] | Kelerion-flux: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#lirc |
| [04:43:00] | Kyler: | briand: I hit "T" to toggle them and I got a message that they're enabled. |
| [04:43:00] | Kelerion-flux: | gives you a few pointers where to start with it |
| [04:43:00] | briand: | Kyler: what does ivtv think it's doing with your capture card? They may be turned off there. |
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| [04:44:00] | Kyler: | briand: I suspect that's the problem. I'm using ivtv 0.6 and I haven't done anything special about captions on it. The frontend shows the "CC" icon for some programs though. |
| [04:45:00] | Kyler: | BTW, what's the other new icon that looks like a speaker? |
| [04:45:00] | briand: | 0.6 ?? Can I borrow your time-travelling delorean so I can get 0.6, too? |
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| [04:46:00] | Kyler: | briand: Are you asking for the URL? |
| [04:46:00] | briand: | Kyler: i'm asking when they came out with 0.6 ... it was 0.4.x a few days ago. |
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| [04:47:00] | fatdave: | hey everyone. I'm having a problem with the ivtv drivers. i don't think it is starting correctly. can anyone help me if I post the error? |
| [04:47:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: I'll try to help. I've been knee-deep in ivtv lately. |
| [04:47:00] | fatdave: | :) |
| [04:47:00] | fatdave: | ok. i loaded the drivers and looked at the dmesg output |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | do you want to see everything between the START and END ? |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | if so i should post in a private window |
| [04:48:00] | briand: | no, just the error.. or use pastebin |
| [04:48:00] | Kelerion-flux: | use pastebin |
| [04:48:00] | Kyler: | s'pose so. It's loading? Where's the problem symptom? |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | ok. here is error |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.152000] ivtv0: Allocate DMA decoder MPEG stream: 16 x 65536 buffers (1024KB total) |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.153000] modprobe: page allocation failure. order:4, mode:0xd0 |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.153000] [<c01323f0>] __alloc_pages+0x2e3/0x2f0 |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | and at the bottom |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.153000] ivtv0 warning: No memory on buffer alloc! |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.153000] ivtv0 warning: Buffer alloc failed! |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.153000] ivtv0: Couldn't allocate buffers for decoder MPEG stream |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.165000] ivtv0: Error -12 setting up streams |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.179000] ivtv0: Error -12 on initialization |
| [04:48:00] | fatdave: | [4300012.179000] ivtv: probe of 0000:01:06.0 failed with error -12 |
| [04:49:00] | briand: | fatdave: what kind of capture card do you have? |
| [04:49:00] | fatdave: | i'm following an ubuntu installation guide for mythtv i found in the ubuntu forums |
| [04:49:00] | fatdave: | hauppauge pvr-350 |
| [04:49:00] | fatdave: | the ivtv drivers compiled and installed ok |
| [04:49:00] | briand: | is this ubuntu installation guide for the same version of ivtv as you're using? |
| [04:50:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: I got a similar error when I tried to increase my buffer space but that doesn't look like your problem. |
| [04:50:00] | fatdave: | i suyes. 1.4.3 i think |
| [04:50:00] | briand: | 0.4.3, maybe? |
| [04:50:00] | fatdave: | probably |
| [04:50:00] | fatdave: | :) |
| [04:50:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: You're using ivtv 0.4? There are a bunch of conflicts with mainline kernel drivers. Did you see those messages? |
| [04:50:00] | briand: | Kyler's running 0.6.0 ;) |
| [04:51:00] | fatdave: | with the HIDE things? |
| [04:51:00] | fatdave: | is that what you mean Kyler |
| [04:51:00] | Kyler: | 0.6 eliminates the conflict problems. (There is a problem with saa7115 though. I posted a fix.) |
| [04:51:00] | briand: | fatdave: use pastebin.ca and paste the entire ivtv dmesg output |
| [04:51:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: Yes, the "hide" stuff. |
| [04:51:00] | fatdave: | ok. i'm not sure how to use it though |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | go to that url |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | paste what you wanted to paste here |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | hit submit |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | it'll give you a url |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | paste that url here |
| [04:52:00] | chuckyp: | Kelerion-flux, Yeah that was it i'm a little retarded tonight. |
| [04:52:00] | chuckyp: | Kelerion-flux, thanks bro |
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| [04:52:00] | Kelerion-flux: | np |
| [04:52:00] | fatdave: | http://pastebin.ca/42024 |
| [04:53:00] | briand: | Kyler: where did you find 0.6 ?? 0.4.3 is, in fact, the latest stable release |
| [04:53:00] | briand: | 0.6.0 will be the next tagged release |
| [04:53:00] | Kyler: | Who said anything about stable...or 0.6.0? |
| [04:54:00] | Kyler: | http://ivtvdriver.org/svn/ivtv/branches/0.6/ |
| [04:54:00] | fatdave: | are you guys able to see my paste? |
| [04:54:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: Yeah...looking... |
| [04:54:00] | User9561: | fatdave: Are you passing any options to your ivtv driver in your modprobe.conf? |
| [04:54:00] | fatdave: | ok. nice |
| [04:55:00] | briand: | Kyler: you said "Kyler briand: I suspect that's the problem. I'm using ivtv 0.6 [...]" |
| [04:55:00] | fatdave: | i don't think so |
| [04:55:00] | Kyler: | briand: If you don't like that I called the 0.6 branch "0.6" then please disregard and ignore me. |
| [04:55:00] | fatdave: | you mean in /etc/modules? |
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| [04:56:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: Are you comfortable with trying a newer kernel? |
| [04:56:00] | fatdave: | hmm...i guess so. but I don't know how to |
| [04:56:00] | User9561: | yeah, I guess so... sorry I am use to Fedora |
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| [04:57:00] | fatdave: | i added ivtv and ivtv-fb to the end of /etc/modules. i added ivtv-fb because i want to get the tv out working too |
| [04:57:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: I had lots of problems with the older kernel (and ivtv 0.4). |
| [04:58:00] | fatdave: | well, i'm willing to change. synaptic updated it once for me already. how do I do it again? |
| [04:58:00] | briand: | I've been running ivtv 0.4 since it came out, under a variety of kernels, from FC3 release until the latest 2.6.12 FC3 kernel. |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | and I'm controlling a PVR-350 and a PVR-500 with it. |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | fatdave: have you looked thru dmesg output prior to loading ivtv? are there any sort of errors or warnings before that? |
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| [05:00:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: It doesn't sound like a new kernel would be easy for you. I suggest rechecking the modules you're using; make sure you're not loading mainline kernel versions of the modules that ivtv also provides. |
| [05:01:00] | fatdave: | http://pastebin.ca/42026 |
| [05:01:00] | fatdave: | that is what i'm loading I think |
| [05:02:00] | User9561: | could ivtv be complaining that other required modules aren't loaded yet? Would a "depmod -a" help? |
| [05:03:00] | quitte_: | User9561: dont ever use insmod. use modprobe. and yes after adding new modules to the module dir run depmod -a |
| [05:03:00] | briand: | fatdave: as root, run `find / -name ivtv*.ko -print` |
| [05:04:00] | briand: | that'll find all the loadable modules starting with 'ivtv' on your system. |
| [05:04:00] | fatdave: | woh |
| [05:04:00] | fatdave: | root@mythtv:~# find / -name ivtv.ko -print |
| [05:04:00] | fatdave: | /lib/modules/2.6.12-10–386/ivtv/ivtv.ko |
| [05:04:00] | fatdave: | /usr/src/ivtv-0.4.3/driver/ivtv.ko |
| [05:04:00] | fatdave: | find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc/7797: this may be a bug in you r filesystem driver. Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. Earlier r esults may have failed to include directories that should have been searched. |
| [05:04:00] | Kyler: | fatdave: Use "find /lib/modules ..." or you'll be on it all night... |
| [05:05:00] | quitte_: | fatdave: proc is not a normal filesystem. you can ignore that |
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| [05:05:00] | fatdave: | Kyler, its already done |
| [05:06:00] | briand: | compare the ivtv.ko module in your /lib/modules/2.6.12-10–386/ivtv directory with that in your /usr/src/ivtv-0.4.3/driver/ directory |
| [05:06:00] | briand: | ...they should be the same |
| [05:06:00] | fatdave: | how do you compare them. diff? |
| [05:07:00] | euphobot: | good evening |
| [05:07:00] | briand: | you could probably just `ls -la ` each of them |
| [05:07:00] | briand: | same file size, same date, etc. |
| [05:07:00] | User9561: | md5sum to compare them? |
| [05:07:00] | alainm_: | anyone try installing myth on kubuntu? |
| [05:09:00] | fatdave: | briand, they are the same |
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| [05:10:00] | fatdave: | did it look like I was loading any conflicting modules? |
| [05:13:00] | briand: | dunno yet. something weird going on, that's for sure. |
| [05:13:00] | briand: | do the same with tuner.ko and tveeprom.ko |
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| [05:15:00] | fatdave: | for tuner.ko the size is the same but the time is a few seconds different |
| [05:16:00] | fatdave: | mut have been created in /lib/modules first then copied over huh |
| [05:17:00] | briand: | probably not a problem. |
| [05:17:00] | briand: | a few questions... |
| [05:18:00] | fatdave: | ok |
| [05:18:00] | briand: | did you, in fact, run `depmod -a` prior to rebooting and receiving that output in dmesg? |
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| [05:19:00] | fatdave: | i never rebooted |
| [05:19:00] | fatdave: | i ran modprobe ivtv |
| [05:19:00] | briand: | okay.. |
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| [05:19:00] | briand: | since you have the modules set to load on boot (in /etc/modules) ... |
| [05:19:00] | fatdave: | but i did the depmod -a prior to that |
| [05:19:00] | briand: | go ahead and run `depmod -a` now.. |
| [05:19:00] | fatdave: | ok |
| [05:20:00] | fatdave: | done |
| [05:20:00] | fatdave: | and now? |
| [05:20:00] | fatdave: | should i run something else now |
| [05:20:00] | briand: | and, instead of simply rebooting, do a complete shutdown... wait a few seconds, and then power it back up, and we'll look at dmesg again after you boot. Sometimes weird stuff gets 'stuck' in the card without a hardware reset |
| [05:20:00] | fatdave: | ok |
| [05:20:00] | fatdave: | i'll try it |
| [05:20:00] | fatdave: | bbs |
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| [05:21:00] | briand: | Kyler: so you're running the development version, then? under a new kernel? trying out the V4L2 api? |
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| [05:26:00] | fatdave: | hey guys. i'm back |
| [05:26:00] | fatdave: | http://pastebin.ca/42027 |
| [05:26:00] | fatdave: | tell me what you think briand :) |
| [05:28:00] | briand: | reading |
| [05:28:00] | briand: | looks a lot better, eh? |
| [05:29:00] | fatdave: | :D |
| [05:29:00] | fatdave: | indeed |
| [05:29:00] | fatdave: | i have a question |
| [05:29:00] | fatdave: | do you see at the very end of the post about the cdrom thing? |
| [05:29:00] | briand: | sure, in my limited capacity, I'll try to answer it |
| [05:29:00] | fatdave: | what does that mean? |
| [05:29:00] | briand: | means it could not open cdrom |
| [05:29:00] | briand: | `ls -la /dev/cdrom` |
| [05:29:00] | fatdave: | why would it try though? i don't have a cd in there |
| [05:30:00] | briand: | do you, indeed, have a device called /dev/cdrom ? |
| [05:30:00] | briand: | sometimes, you need to create a link to /dev/hdb for it... |
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| [05:32:00] | briand: | anyway.. as far as ivtv goes, it looks like you should be able to proceed with your installation of MythTV... :) have you tried doing the cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg bit yet (or is that in the tutorial you're following?) |
| [05:33:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Are you having trouble with your niveus remote on 2.6.15 kernel? |
| [05:33:00] | randomuserguy: | does anyone know why mythtv would hang at a black screen when I go to watch live tv? X uses 100% cpu and killing all mythtv processes doesnt do anything |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never tried 2.6.15 |
| [05:33:00] | flindet_: | ah, bummer |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't change a working kernel unless I have a damn good reason :) |
| [05:34:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Is this still the latest version? http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
| [05:34:00] | fatdave: | briand, i'm going to do that now. but i don't have my cable hooked up yet so I don't expect to see anything |
| [05:34:00] | fatdave: | thanks for your help guys! |
| [05:34:00] | briand: | ah.. might want to wait until you have the cable hookup for that, then. ;) |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [05:34:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: I hear ya. I just got the new kernel with the fedora updates. I hate that |
| [05:34:00] | briand: | no prob, fatdave ... glad to help |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind a problem are you having ? |
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| [05:35:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: I load the module, but the remote doesn't work (still trying to find an error message in the logs). When I rmmod the module, it takes a LONG time then eventually seg faults |
| [05:35:00] | flindet_: | I can never properly rmmod it |
| [05:35:00] | flindet_: | I'm loading with /sbin/modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1 |
| [05:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm, weird |
| [05:36:00] | briand: | flindet_: same seg fault if you `modprobe -r` instead of `rmmod` ?? |
| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I haven't tried it on anything newer than 2.6.12.5 |
| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | at some point I'll try it out on a newer one |
| [05:36:00] | flindet_: | briand: let me try |
| [05:36:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: I'm not seeing anything controversial in /var/log/messages |
| [05:37:00] | rtsai1111: | anyone know of a free hosting site where I can put up a new theme (1.1MB)? Yahoo! GeoCities will only do HTML, TXT, GIF, and JPG, and actually validates the files (e.g., I can't just rename my .tar.bz2 to something else). |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | try dmesg |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | it will have kernel logged messages that syslog might not be configured to write to that log file |
| [05:38:00] | flindet_: | it'll take me a minute |
| [05:38:00] | flindet_: | I'm trying briand's suggestion to unload |
| [05:38:00] | flindet_: | it looks like it will fail |
| [05:38:00] | flindet_: | it seems to lock the whole box while it tries to unload |
| [05:38:00] | briand: | it shouldn't take this long |
| [05:38:00] | flindet_: | briand: I think it's going to seg fault again |
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| [05:39:00] | flindet_: | maybe I can get this fedora to use an older kernel |
| [05:39:00] | briand: | like GreyFoxx said.. you might want to look at the output of dmesg |
| [05:39:00] | flindet_: | yeah, I'll give that a try once it lets me back in |
| [05:39:00] | flindet_: | okay, even with modprobe -r it segfaults |
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| [05:40:00] | flindet_: | Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 |
| [05:40:00] | briand: | yeah, i should imagine so. |
| [05:42:00] | jnunez: | I am trying to modprobe ivtv and the error is ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' where would this parameter be coming from. It's a knoppmyth install |
| [05:42:00] | flindet_: | well, even with dmesg I don't see complaints loading |
| [05:42:00] | flindet_: | just that complaint when unloading |
| [05:42:00] | flindet_: | yet, the remote doesn't work :-( |
| [05:42:00] | flindet_: | maybe I can get fedora to load one of the older kernels |
| [05:43:00] | flindet_: | hopefully nothing in those updates insists on this new kernel |
| [05:43:00] | briand: | jnunez: what distro? |
| [05:43:00] | jnunez: | knoppix |
| [05:43:00] | jnunez: | knoppmyth to be exact |
| [05:43:00] | briand: | jnunez: are you specifying any options to the kernel in /etc/module ? |
| [05:44:00] | briand: | er, not the kernel.. sorry.. to the module? |
| [05:44:00] | jnunez: | I had to redo ivtv just to try and get the pvr-150 ir blaster working |
| [05:44:00] | briand: | <-- getting late here. |
| [05:44:00] | jnunez: | let me check briand |
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| [05:45:00] | jnunez: | none in modules |
| [05:46:00] | briand: | flindet_: well.. umm.. your loadable modules are in a kernel-specific directory in your /lib/modules heirarchy... so you'll probably need to re-install all that stuff under the new kernel, if you decide to go that route |
| [05:47:00] | flindet_: | yeah |
| [05:47:00] | flindet_: | that's no big deal |
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| [05:47:00] | flindet_: | I'll tell you how it goes in a few minutes |
| [05:47:00] | flindet_: | I'm trying with 2.6.14 |
| [05:47:00] | briand: | jnunez: in knoppix... i think you might want to check out the contents of /etc/modules --- there may be module options specified in there. |
| [05:48:00] | briand: | <--not a knoppix expert, by far. |
| [05:48:00] | jnunez: | ok thanks briand |
| [05:49:00] | quitte_: | jnunez: /etc/modprobe.d/ might be worth a try,too |
| [05:49:00] | quitte_: | jnunez: after editing files there run update-modules |
| [05:49:00] | briand: | sounds like we found someone familiar with that distro... |
| [05:49:00] | briand: | :) |
| [05:49:00] | jnunez: | quitte_: cool let me look |
| [05:49:00] | quitte_: | no. familiar with debian |
| [05:49:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [05:49:00] | briand: | <-- quasi-familiar with fedora |
| [05:50:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: In 2.6.14 I get: /home/myhthtv/ati_remote/ati_remote.c: Weird data, len=1 ff 00 00 00 00 00 ... |
| [05:50:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: that's while trying to load the module! |
| [05:50:00] | flindet_: | weird |
| [05:50:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Yet, the remote seems to work |
| [05:50:00] | flindet_: | even weirder |
| [05:50:00] | briand: | hmm. |
| [05:51:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: So, 2.6.14 complains when loading the driver, but it does work. By 2.6.15, it doesn't work anymore. :-( |
| [05:51:00] | quitte_: | flindet_: is there some ir source sending data while loading, maybe? |
| [05:51:00] | flindet_: | quitte_: Doubtful |
| [05:51:00] | briand: | flourescent light nearby? |
| [05:51:00] | flindet_: | isn't the niveus rf anyway? |
| [05:51:00] | quitte_: | flindet_: you should compile modules for your secific kernel everytime you witch to a new kernel anyways |
| [05:52:00] | flindet_: | quitte_: Yeah, I did |
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| [05:52:00] | flindet_: | quitte_: But when I compile the same code under 2.6.15 it doesn't work. Compile it under 2.6.14 and it complains, but works |
| [05:52:00] | flindet_: | 2.6.12 it works without complaint |
| [05:53:00] | briand: | flindet_: did you `./configure && make && make install` or just `make && make install` ? |
| [05:53:00] | quitte_: | flindet_: lots of kernel changes hapened lately. |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can ignore the Weird Data line |
| [05:53:00] | flindet_: | Anyway, I have no problem with using 2.6.14, but wanted to let GreyFoxx know about the problem in case he's bored one day and wants to make the world a better place. ;-) |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | you will see that periodically |
| [05:53:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: nice. Thanks |
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| [05:53:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Yeah, it's just something about 2.6.15 as far as I can tell |
| [05:53:00] | briand: | GreyFoxx: really? what causes that? |
| [05:53:00] | flindet_: | GreyFoxx: Sadly, I haven't found anything in the logs, though to explain WHY it's not working in 2.6.15 |
| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | every once in a while the remote sends data to the driver that it's not coded to handle. so it;s just saying "I'm seeing something I don't understand" |
| [05:54:00] | briand: | ah |
| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | It seems to be some sort of broadcast "hey, I'm here" message |
| [05:55:00] | briand: | seems to be some way to make sure the batteries in the remote die, even if you don't use it for a while... |
| [05:55:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* :) |
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| [05:57:00] | flindet_: | briand: I just have my own Makefile that I made that is VERY basic. I don't know if GreyFoxx has a Makefile now that he distributes. Anyway, I just make the ati_remote.ko. I then make sure that no ati_remote is loaded. I mv the ati_remote.ko to ati_remote.ko.orig, then copy my new ati_remote to the lib/modules dir. Then I change permission to 744 and load it with modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1 |
| [05:58:00] | flindet_: | the Makefile just compiles. Everything else I do by hand. |
| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just manually copy it overtop of the ati_remote.c in the kernel source and leave it there |
| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | compile like normal |
| [05:59:00] | briand: | question for the masses: I was playing around with my 'High Quality' profile... it had been == to my 'default' profile. So, I change it from 480x480 to 720x480 and record a 1/2 hour program. Noticeable difference in quality.... yet, the file is 1 G ... typically, the 'default' profile 1/2 hour shows are 1.1G ... why is the higher quality recording smaller than the lower? |
| [05:59:00] | briand: | flindet_: gotcha. |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | did you increase the bitrate as well ?> |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Resolution is irrelevant |
| [05:59:00] | briand: | nope. only changed the vertical from 480 to 720 |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | the bitrate is how much data is generated regardless of resolution :) |
| [06:00:00] | briand: | so, "DVD quality" is 720x480 resolution...and what bitrate(s) (video and audio) ? |
| [06:01:00] | flindet_: | ah, wouldn't you know it! |
| [06:01:00] | flindet_: | atrpms doesn't have the nvidia driver for 2.6.14 anymore! |
| [06:01:00] | flindet_: | GRRR |
| [06:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | DVD's vary, I've seen as low as 3Megabits, as high as 9Megabits |
| [06:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx: those 9giggers are expensive as all hell |
| [06:02:00] | briand: | any recommendation for settings (SD) ? |
| [06:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | briand: honestly experiment and find whayou prefer. Personally I record at 544x480 with a bitrate of 4000 with a max of 9000 |
| [06:04:00] | briand: | 'k. |
| [06:04:00] | briand: | fair enough. |
| [06:05:00] | briand: | I'm just trying to set up a decent 'High Quality' profile, for when I know I'll want to archive to DVD |
| [06:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx: I record at 6000/9000 at 720x480 :) it looks really nice and 2.2gb per hour |
| [06:05:00] | jnunez: | quitte_: here is what I have |
| [06:05:00] | jnunez: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [06:05:00] | jnunez: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [06:05:00] | jnunez: | alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c |
| [06:05:00] | jnunez: | options ivtv cardtype=6 ivtv_std=1 |
| [06:05:00] | jnunez: | # tuner=39,50 ivtv_std=1,1 tda9887=0 mixer_input=1 |
| [06:05:00] | jnunez: | #add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c |
| [06:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahhh the spam pain |
| [06:05:00] | ** SlicerDicer- melts ** | |
| [06:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jnunez: please next time paste that to rafb.net/paste or something similar as the topic says not to be a dick or anything |
| [06:06:00] | briand: | SlicerDicer-: really? my 'default' settings (480x480 at whatever the 'default' bitrate is) take 2.2G/hr. |
| [06:06:00] | jnunez: | sorry |
| [06:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | briand: yeah really :) |
| [06:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | briand: up it to 720x480 it looks really nice on those |
| [06:06:00] | briand: | hmm.. so there's not much of a filesize tradeoff to be made with various settings, then |
| [06:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well of course there is |
| [06:07:00] | briand: | did you see my question/statement above? |
| [06:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | right I did |
| [06:07:00] | briand: | ...or is that because I didn't fiddle with the bitrate? |
| [06:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well let me double check my settings |
| [06:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry I run 4500x6000 at 720x480 |
| [06:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my bad ;-) |
| [06:08:00] | flindet_: | does anyone know what /var/log/lastlog is? It's taking an enormous amount of space |
| [06:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | err 4500 min 6000 max |
| [06:08:00] | dtm: | flindet_: that's the log of login events |
| [06:09:00] | dtm: | flindet_: is it not under rotation? |
| [06:09:00] | flindet_: | apparently not |
| [06:09:00] | briand: | SlicerDicer-: lemme go check what mine is set at for 'default' and 'high-q' |
| [06:09:00] | flindet_: | is it normally binary? |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: at least he does not have 5gb of mysql logs ;-) |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [06:09:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: :-o |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I had that the other day |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | shut off logging |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wow that was ugly |
| [06:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hah |
| [06:10:00] | briand: | dang... my /var/log/lastlog file is 19M ! |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | those binary logs dtm they were huge |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | avg of about 1gb per day or so is what I was doing |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was insane |
| [06:10:00] | briand: | apparently not under the default logrotate ... |
| [06:11:00] | flindet_: | I'm using up all 30 gigs in my / and I'm trying to figure out why |
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| [06:13:00] | briand: | SlicerDicer-: my High Quality profile is: 720x480, 4500min 6000max. my 'default' profile is: 480x480, 4500 min 6000max |
| [06:14:00] | jnunez: | briand: What tuner? |
| [06:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Which is why you don't see a size difference, your bitrates are the same |
| [06:14:00] | briand: | jnunez: Hauppauge PVR-350, and a PVR-500 |
| [06:15:00] | jnunez: | I tried 720x480 and I must have done something wrong cause it recorded in 720x480 but displayed 480x480 (cropped the right side) |
| [06:15:00] | briand: | hmm. |
| [06:16:00] | briand: | i dunno... i just recorded a 1/2-hour show in 720x480, and it looked normal (except markedly cleaner on 'paused' screens than 480x480) |
| [06:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | You don't know what ? |
| [06:16:00] | briand: | i don't know why he only got half a picture. |
| [06:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh, hehe I didn't actually see what he had written :) |
| [06:23:00] | briand: | hmm. is this a 'new' result of how LiveTV works? under 0.18.1, I think if you hit the 'info' button during b'cast, it'd show the program info OSD, unless you were 'behind live' ..... now, under 0.19, first press of the 'info' button shows the progress bar (which is really meaningless in this situation), and you need to press 'info' a second time to get the program info |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's been that way for a long time... 0.18 is too far back for me to remember though |
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| [06:24:00] | briand: | i think if it was in the ringbuffer, it performed differently before.... no progress bar showed up, unless it was necessary to show one (paused livetv, or behind real-time livetv) |
| [06:26:00] | briand: | incidentally.. i had livetv running for a couple hours earlier this evening (checking out what dev- was describing on his system), and in looking through the "LiveTV" group in 'recordings' I noticed I can go back and watch that stuff "again" ... that's very cool. |
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| [06:33:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | briand: I think the INFO button was changed a little to cycle through 2–3 different things now, so it acts a little different than 0.18 did. |
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| [06:35:00] | RancidLM: | hey all |
| [06:35:00] | RancidLM: | has any one set up a mythtv box with lirc + a homebrew IR reciver? |
| [06:36:00] | quitte_: | a lot of people did. |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry briand I am running up and down stairs trying to get knoppmyth going with bootable frontend hehe |
| [06:40:00] | RancidLM: | well i built a serial reciver and i have no idea where to start.. i ran lirc-reconfig.sh and used the logitech one and said it didn't have the info to continue.. im just woundering how and where i should go to get this serial reciver working with LIRC+mythtv using koppmyth |
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| [06:47:00] | Calroth: | anyone here had a problem with the keyboard and/or remote stopping working in 0.19? |
| [06:49:00] | briand: | Captain_Murdoch: Okay.. fair enough. I don't see the point of the 'Position' info in LiveTV, though — it always shows the same thing |
| [06:49:00] | briand: | Calroth: my remote stopped working.. but that was because my 'yum update' installed a new kernel.. ;) |
| [06:51:00] | Calroth: | on occasion, sometimes when changing channels, remote and keyboard stop |
| [06:51:00] | Calroth: | but video keeps playing |
| [06:51:00] | Calroth: | only way to exit is to ctrl-alt-f1 to the host terminal and ctrl-c it |
| [06:51:00] | briand: | no.. haven't experienced anything like that here. |
| [06:52:00] | briand: | anyway... i'm off to bed... nearly 2am here, and I've been up since 4:30am yesterday. |
| [06:53:00] | briand: | g'nite all. |
| [06:53:00] | Calroth: | night |
| [06:55:00] | RancidLM: | is there any one here who could help me with lirc.. the lirc channels pritty much dead by the looks of it? |
| [06:55:00] | tweak_st: | is there a 64bit windows media center? |
| [06:56:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | brian, not if you pause or are behind LiveTV. |
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| [07:27:00] | flindet_: | hi, on the mythtv page, it says to read the README in the plugins folder to learn how to set up your netflix account. I can't find the plugin directory, though. Does anyone know where it's located? |
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| [07:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | flindet, it is in mythplugins/mythflix/README |
| [07:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | if you're using packages, you need the mythplugins package, if you're using SVN, you need to checkout mythplugins. |
| [07:36:00] | flindet_: | thanks |
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| [08:09:00] | feld: | what changed in 0.19's mythweb? why doesnt it work? I get basically a dead page. |
| [08:16:00] | kormoc: | feld, read the readme |
| [08:16:00] | feld: | lol gotta see if i have it on hand... |
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| [08:22:00] | feld: | fixed it; was a stupid issue |
| [08:22:00] | feld: | yay! |
| [08:23:00] | feld: | wasnt even part of the readme |
| [08:23:00] | feld: | :P |
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| [09:24:00] | [Elvis]: | hello guys, where can I enable xvmc in mythtv? |
| [09:26:00] | [Elvis] is now known as {Jasper} | |
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| [09:37:00] | {Jasper}: | yo coffee88 |
| [09:38:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: Howzit |
| [09:38:00] | {Jasper}: | kinda alright, with you? |
| [09:38:00] | {Jasper}: | I cant' get xvmc running for some reason |
| [09:38:00] | {Jasper}: | it says it loads in xorg.conf but I don't know how to check if it' |
| [09:39:00] | coffee88: | Saturday morning and all's well. Except for the hangover. |
| [09:39:00] | {Jasper}: | 's actualy doing something |
| [09:39:00] | coffee88: | If it says it's loading in xorg logs, then it probably is.... |
| [09:39:00] | {Jasper}: | yeah but cpu load is the same as without |
| [09:39:00] | {Jasper}: | so that's weirde |
| [09:39:00] | {Jasper}: | maybe mythtv isn't using it somehow? |
| [09:40:00] | {Jasper}: | should I enable it somewhere? |
| [09:40:00] | coffee88: | You can try watching top while it's playing something, then turn off xvmc in set up and see if it increase the load? |
| [09:40:00] | {Jasper}: | it's the same with both.. |
| [09:41:00] | coffee88: | Only place I saw it is in the setup – you choose the mpeg decoding method |
| [09:41:00] | {Jasper}: | yeah but that's only for pvr350 orr?? |
| [09:41:00] | coffee88: | On my box, without it I can't play anything. Too slow.... |
| [09:42:00] | coffee88: | That box let me choose the via xmvc, which I need.... |
| [09:42:00] | {Jasper}: | same for me./I got 80% cpu load all the time |
| [09:42:00] | coffee88: | What graphics card do you have? |
| [09:42:00] | {Jasper}: | which menu is it coffee88 ? |
| [09:42:00] | coffee88: | Ummm... Hang on.... |
| [09:43:00] | {Jasper}: | I got a msi 6200 |
| [09:44:00] | coffee88: | TV settings -> playback -> preferred mpeg decoder... |
| [09:44:00] | {Jasper}: | I can select libmpeg2 |
| [09:44:00] | {Jasper}: | is that it? |
| [09:44:00] | coffee88: | I get about 40% load with it on, and 100% without.... |
| [09:44:00] | coffee88: | Hmm. Don't think so.... |
| [09:45:00] | {Jasper}: | cpuload appears to be lower though |
| [09:45:00] | coffee88: | On my other front end I have an option for "standard xmvc" – that's gat a nvida card... |
| [09:46:00] | {Jasper}: | but still 70X |
| [09:46:00] | coffee88: | gat? got. |
| [09:46:00] | {Jasper}: | but I use 720 x 675 to capture |
| [09:46:00] | coffee88: | 675? |
| [09:47:00] | {Jasper}: | erm |
| [09:47:00] | {Jasper}: | 7208562 |
| [09:47:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [09:47:00] | coffee88: | Heh |
| [09:47:00] | {Jasper}: | 78% cpu load on 720 with 10 mbit |
| [09:48:00] | coffee88: | Hmmm. What speed proc? |
| [09:50:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | Anyone using the HDTV output with the nvidia binary driver? Any troubles? |
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| [09:52:00] | chuckyp: | Question of the morning is. I have a program recorded that has already been flagged for commercials. How do I cut the commercials out now? |
| [09:52:00] | {Jasper}: | coffee88 800 mhz |
| [09:53:00] | coffee88: | Hmmm. I'm out of ideas really. I don't now enough about your card... Maybe it's to do with your use flags for either x or mythtv? |
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| [09:53:00] | {Jasper}: | cpu load = 100X when I don't use libmpeg2 |
| [09:53:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [09:54:00] | quitte: | coffee88: do you use nvidia driver? nv doesnt support xvmc |
| [09:54:00] | Juski: | morning |
| [09:54:00] | chuckyp: | mornign juski |
| [09:54:00] | coffee88: | On my main be/fe, via unichrome, on the other fe, nvidia 7676(?) |
| [09:55:00] | Juski: | unichrome can be a sod to get working properly, I hear |
| [09:55:00] | chuckyp: | Juski, Do you know much about transcoding? |
| [09:55:00] | coffee88: | It was. |
| [09:56:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: about all I know about transcoding is – I select a show to be transcoded and it gets done |
| [09:56:00] | mchou: | gah!! help! how do you specify a specific cpu optimization (i.e. i686) in the "make rpm" command in the generic kernel? |
| [09:56:00] | chuckyp: | Juski, Do you edit out commercials? |
| [09:56:00] | {Jasper}: | juski do you know if xvmc = same as use libmpeg2 in mythtv? |
| [09:57:00] | mchou: | all I get is i386 |
| [09:57:00] | Juski: | since I upgraded the hard drive where my recordings partition is, I don't transcode |
| [09:57:00] | Juski: | {jasper}: xvmc != libmpeg2 |
| [09:58:00] | chuckyp: | What i'm trying to do is I have a recorded show that has been flagged for commercials. Now I want to delete the commercials out and transcode it or whatever as long as the commercials are gone. |
| [09:58:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm but libmpeg2 reduces my cpu load...why is that then? |
| [09:58:00] | Juski: | {jasper}: cos erm... xvmc isn't working? |
| [09:58:00] | mchou: | because libmpeg2 is well optimized :) |
| [09:58:00] | Juski: | libmpeg2 is better on some CPUs |
| [09:58:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm juski ... :( |
| [09:58:00] | {Jasper}: | so how can I enable xvmc then..I'm out of ideas |
| [09:58:00] | {Jasper}: | xorg says it's loaded |
| [09:59:00] | Juski: | {jasper}: in a terminal, do xdypinfo and grep for acceleration |
| [09:59:00] | {Jasper}: | I had use flag xvmc ...and recompiled mythtv |
| [09:59:00] | {Jasper}: | k |
| [09:59:00] | mchou: | {Jasper}: you got a shitty handle. And configure --help |
| [09:59:00] | Juski: | {jasper}: if mythtv has xvmc enabled properly you'll see it in the list of decoder methods |
| [10:00:00] | mchou: | tells you exactly how to enable xvmc |
| [10:00:00] | {Jasper}: | it doesn't know xdypinfo |
| [10:00:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [10:00:00] | Juski: | try x d p y i n f o then |
| [10:00:00] | {Jasper}: | ah |
| [10:00:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [10:01:00] | mchou: | Juski: why the fuck you giving him crappy advice? |
| [10:01:00] | {Jasper}: | no acceleration in there juski |
| [10:01:00] | mchou: | he asked how to enable xvmc in myth. |
| [10:02:00] | Juski: | mchou: xdyinfo will tell you if xvmc is loaded or not |
| [10:02:00] | mchou: | Juski: lol |
| [10:02:00] | Juski: | in X, I mean |
| [10:03:00] | mchou: | dont be silly |
| [10:03:00] | {Jasper}: | but juski I do see in there unters extensions: XVideo-MotionCompensation |
| [10:03:00] | {Jasper}: | under even |
| [10:03:00] | Juski: | okay, okay |
| [10:03:00] | {Jasper}: | but grep acceleration gives nothing |
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| [10:03:00] | Juski: | right my bad |
| [10:03:00] | Juski: | fucking hell I just got up, give me a break |
| [10:03:00] | mchou: | {Jasper}: you need to compile myth with xvmc support |
| [10:04:00] | {Jasper}: | well how can I chcekc if I did that before? |
| [10:04:00] | {Jasper}: | becuase I emerged it with xvmc in use flags.. |
| [10:04:00] | mchou: | ldd `which mythfrontend` |
| [10:04:00] | mchou: | FUCK use flags |
| [10:05:00] | mchou: | another clueless gentoo user |
| [10:05:00] | {Jasper}: | I know how to ./configure ...but I rather stick to emerge if that works |
| [10:05:00] | mchou: | well, obviously emerge hasnt worked for ya, has it? |
| [10:06:00] | {Jasper}: | mchou what did you wanna see on ldd ? |
| [10:06:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: emerge -pv mythtv and see what it says. |
| [10:06:00] | mchou: | {Jasper}: it should say something like libxvmc*.so or some such |
| [10:06:00] | Juski: | if you're compiling myth from source downloaded yourself (i.e. not emerged), your use flags won't be read |
| [10:06:00] | {Jasper}: | I know |
| [10:07:00] | {Jasper}: | that's why I emerged it |
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| [10:07:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm this is werid hang on |
| [10:07:00] | {Jasper}: | xvmc is not in use flags when I pretend to emerge |
| [10:08:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm should I have the nvidia use flag? |
| [10:08:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [10:08:00] | {Jasper}: | that's it then |
| [10:09:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: You are using the nvidia drivers, not nv, right? |
| [10:09:00] | {Jasper}: | yeah |
| [10:09:00] | coffee88: | Just checking. :-) |
| [10:10:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | Hmmm... There's no option to TVOutFormat to force component or d4 output? |
| [10:10:00] | {Jasper}: | I think the problem was that I didn't have nvidia in use flags |
| [10:10:00] | {Jasper}: | I thought it was xvmc |
| [10:11:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | What TVOutFormat would I use if I want to drive my tv at 1080i from the D4 output? |
| [10:12:00] | coffee88: | Oh. I just ran the script from Beirdo's FAQ to recover an undeletable file.... And I think the script needs updating for .19..... |
| [10:13:00] | mchou: | coffee88: linky to Beirdo's faq? |
| [10:13:00] | coffee88: | Now i have things like Feb 16 23:30 1024_20060216230000.mpg AND Feb 18 10:02 1024_20060216230000_20060216233000.nuv |
| [10:13:00] | coffee88: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ |
| [10:14:00] | Juski: | ip_goat_rodeo: TVOutFormat is used to configure a video card's TV encoder, which AFAIK will only output PAL or NTSC over svideo / composite, not HD |
| [10:14:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | Then what's the use of the HD1080i setting for TVStandard? |
| [10:15:00] | Juski: | I said AFAIK |
| [10:15:00] | Juski: | I'm gonna STFU now |
| [10:16:00] | mchou: | Juski: open mouth, insert foot |
| [10:17:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | Hopefully I won't have to resort at driving my set at 1280x1024 via dvi when its 1920x1080 native res... |
| [10:17:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: hehe |
| [10:17:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: you dont like EDTV? :) |
| [10:18:00] | mchou: | actually 1280x1024 is better than EDTV |
| [10:18:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | Well, after dropping US$4k on the set I expect eyepopping video |
| [10:18:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: bah. $4k is cheap :) |
| [10:18:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | well, its only a 37" |
| [10:19:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: what make? |
| [10:19:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | Sharp Aquos – its a non-US model |
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| [10:19:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: hmm, seen those at costco here.... |
| [10:19:00] | {Jasper}: | that's a lot of money for a tv.. |
| [10:19:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [10:20:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | the 37" sharp models sold in US are native 1366x768. mine is full-spec |
| [10:20:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: where did you get yours? |
| [10:20:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | japan |
| [10:20:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: hehe, no wonder it cost $4k :) |
| [10:20:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | 1080i over-the-air broadcasts on it are amazing. |
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| [10:21:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: you live in Japan? |
| [10:21:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | yeah |
| [10:22:00] | mchou: | or did you have to ship it somewhere? |
| [10:22:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | For their olympic coverage, NHK shut down their alternate general channel and combined bandwidth for 1080i broadcast. |
| [10:22:00] | mchou: | nice |
| [10:22:00] | mchou: | about time stations got smart |
| [10:23:00] | mchou: | does japan use dvb or atsc or some other thing for HD? |
| [10:24:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | they use isdb-t and isdb-s |
| [10:24:00] | Juski: | the opposite is going on here. the bbc are broadcasting 4 extra channels during the olympics, stealing bandwidth from others |
| [10:24:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | -t for terrestial, -s is for sattelite |
| [10:25:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: so that thing is only good in japan? |
| [10:25:00] | mchou: | at least the tuner part |
| [10:25:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | brazil may be adopting it too from what I heard |
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| [10:25:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | but at the moment isdb is only used in japan |
| [10:25:00] | coffee88: | Juski: Do you know if they are mapped to channel nos on dvb-t card? The "red button" on our freeview box doesn't work.... |
| [10:26:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: are you japanese or gaijin? |
| [10:26:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | which sucks because no pc-capture cards – have to use firewire-attached tuner |
| [10:26:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I just live here. |
| [10:26:00] | ** mocker gets woken up by work to walk someone through a force fsck. ** | |
| [10:26:00] | Juski: | ip_goat_rodeo: you got a fair price for that TV – over here you can pay £4999 for a TV that only does 480 resolution |
| [10:26:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: where were you from originally? |
| [10:26:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | US |
| [10:27:00] | Juski: | coffee88: 700, 701, 702, 703 I believe |
| [10:27:00] | coffee88: | Juski: Thanks. |
| [10:27:00] | mchou: | ip_goat_rodeo: hehe, for a sec I thought goat reodeos must have gotten popular in jp :) |
| [10:27:00] | mchou: | rodeos* |
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| [10:28:00] | Juski: | coffee88: if there's nothing on those channels when you go to watch em you'll get errors |
| [10:28:00] | coffee88: | Juski: I suspect it won't be something we'll be doing much. Too much ice dancing on.... Bleech. |
| [10:29:00] | Juski: | the interactive streams on cable & sky are pretty good quality – can't speak for the freeview ones though |
| [10:30:00] | coffee88: | Did everyone see the women's downhill snowbarding final? That was funny! |
| [10:30:00] | Juski: | the rate of them on freeview is likely to be _low_ |
| [10:30:00] | mchou: | coffee88: I only heard about it |
| [10:30:00] | mchou: | coffee88: the US coach collapsed |
| [10:30:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I need to switch my sattelite over to the HD-capable service, need to aim at a different bird. |
| [10:31:00] | coffee88: | It was classic! The british commentators only just stopped themselves from laughing. |
| [10:31:00] | mchou: | coffee88: haha!! |
| [10:31:00] | mchou: | coffee88: they managed to keep the stiff upper lip? |
| [10:31:00] | coffee88: | It was quivering. |
| [10:31:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [10:31:00] | mchou: | god, that chick must be dumb |
| [10:31:00] | {Jasper}: | what happened? |
| [10:32:00] | mchou: | was she blonde? |
| [10:32:00] | coffee88: | She was winning by a mile, then started showing off.... Fell over, and came second. |
| [10:32:00] | mchou: | {Jasper}: she had the gold wrapped up...... |
| [10:32:00] | Juski: | ha-ha |
| [10:33:00] | mchou: | I heard them interviewing her afterwards....She said she was "just having fun" |
| [10:33:00] | coffee88: | The commentators said something like "well, that will be one for the bloopers shows for years to come...." |
| [10:33:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [10:33:00] | {Jasper}: | :p |
| [10:34:00] | {Jasper}: | yeah like whatever |
| [10:34:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [10:35:00] | coffee88: | Juski: How long does a netboot take on your minimyth box? Over what network speed? |
| [10:36:00] | mchou: | lol, she is blond |
| [10:36:00] | Juski: | 100mbit switched... takes under a minute |
| [10:36:00] | mchou: | blonde* |
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| [10:36:00] | RancidLM: | hey all |
| [10:36:00] | RancidLM: | im running REALLY low on ram |
| [10:36:00] | coffee88: | Hmmm. So maybe 2–3mins over wireles?.... |
| [10:36:00] | RancidLM: | and i notice None of my swapspace is being used |
| [10:37:00] | coffee88: | Juski: But minimyth is still at 18 at the moment? |
| [10:37:00] | RancidLM: | is there a way to enable the use of my swap space iv done swapon /dev/hda2 -p2 but my swapspace is still at 0 |
| [10:37:00] | mocker: | RancidLM: Linux pretty much allocates all the RAM. |
| [10:37:00] | mocker: | If you haven't dipped into swap much then you are good. |
| [10:37:00] | RancidLM: | well |
| [10:38:00] | RancidLM: | i got 3mb of avalible ram when using mythvideo |
| [10:38:00] | Juski: | coffee88: there's a 0.19beta2 version which seems to work brilliantly |
| [10:38:00] | RancidLM: | and 0k swap used |
| [10:38:00] | RancidLM: | .... |
| [10:38:00] | RancidLM: | so this is pritty wierd allocation |
| [10:38:00] | ** coffee88 considers ordering another epia board...... ** | |
| [10:39:00] | Juski: | RancidLM: my backend has 512MB RAM, and its 1GB swapfile has 0k usage.. has had since I installed it |
| [10:39:00] | RancidLM: | but with 3mb of avalible ram..shouldn't my swap space kick in? |
| [10:40:00] | Juski: | linux is very good at memory management |
| [10:40:00] | Juski: | it takes up as much ram as it can & reserves it until programs ask for it |
| [10:40:00] | RancidLM: | ... well my mplayer would dissagree with you lol :P |
| [10:40:00] | RancidLM: | im getting bad video playback |
| [10:41:00] | Juski: | that might have nothing to do with the amount of ram you have |
| [10:41:00] | RancidLM: | very choppy and its just yelling for more cache |
| [10:41:00] | Juski: | how fast is your CPU? |
| [10:41:00] | RancidLM: | 1.7gb is my pvr's speed |
| [10:42:00] | RancidLM: | err ghz |
| [10:42:00] | RancidLM: | sorry been a long day |
| [10:42:00] | {Jasper}: | American snowboarder Lindsey Jacobellis says her down-the-stretch bobble and crash that cost her a gold medal in women's snowboard-cross was the result of a blown "grab," a move to stabilize her against cross-winds after the final jump. |
| [10:42:00] | coffee88: | RancidLM: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management |
| [10:42:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: BS! |
| [10:42:00] | mchou: | that is complete BS |
| [10:43:00] | Juski: | hmmm ;-) |
| [10:43:00] | mchou: | she was going so fast she wouldnt know if a cross wind hit her |
| [10:43:00] | Juski: | RancidLM: ever tried xine? |
| [10:44:00] | mchou: | "I was having fun," she said. "Snowboarding is fun. I was ahead. I wanted to share my enthusiasm with the crowd. I messed up. Oh well, it happens." |
| [10:44:00] | {Jasper}: | Jacobellis had a 60-yard lead going into the final jumps just before the finish line, but caught her backside edge on the landing and fell to her posterior. |
| [10:44:00] | {Jasper}: | hehe |
| [10:44:00] | {Jasper}: | Jacobellis initially said the grab was like any other she used to stabilize herself. She said the wind was giving her trouble, and added that she carried a lot of speed into it because she didn't know where the other riders were. |
| [10:45:00] | mchou: | that's classic tortoise and hare story |
| [10:45:00] | Juski: | well either she came a cropper thru bad luck or showing off. either way... she didn't _win_ in the end and that's what counts :-P |
| [10:45:00] | {Jasper}: | damn I wanna see the movie of this |
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| [10:45:00] | {Jasper}: | someone must have put it online |
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| [10:45:00] | mchou: | nbcolympics.com has it |
| [10:46:00] | mchou: | but no worky for me in linux |
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| [10:47:00] | Juski: | this NBCOlympics.com video may not be viewed in your country |
| [10:47:00] | Juski: | why? is it a USA-santised version? |
| [10:47:00] | {Jasper}: | that's lame. |
| [10:47:00] | Juski: | *sanitised? |
| [10:48:00] | Juski: | BBC'll no doubt have it |
| [10:48:00] | mocker: | Probably viewing rights. |
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| [10:48:00] | coffee88: | Im assuming that while the extension on recordings has changed from nuv to mpg, it's still just a dvb-t dump, and I still need to demux etc if I'm burning a DVD? |
| [10:49:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm I can't find the movie on that site |
| [10:49:00] | Juski: | coffee88: lossless transcode does the biz, I've been led to beleive |
| [10:49:00] | mocker: | bleh. |
| [10:50:00] | mocker: | want to go back to sleep. |
| [10:50:00] | coffee88: | Juski: I had trouble with the nuvexport mpg2->mpeg2 cut only before, but I'll try again... |
| [10:50:00] | Juski: | coffee88: there's a new transcoder available |
| [10:50:00] | coffee88: | sweet. Saves me a job in projectX.... |
| [10:51:00] | Juski: | I had a couple of recordings I couldn't fix with projectX or pvastrumento last year |
| [10:52:00] | coffee88: | I can never get used to the whole collection thing in projectx, if trying to cut out ads in there show by show.... |
| [10:54:00] | Juski: | wow.. that downhill snowboarding effort looks like a wheeze |
| [10:56:00] | Juski: | HAHAHA.. she was definitely showing off |
| [10:56:00] | coffee88: | there is NO doubt about that. Just watching it again myself too. He he he |
| [10:56:00] | Juski: | commentator: "that one is gonna be on sports bloopers for years to come" |
| [10:57:00] | mchou: | Juski: linky? |
| [10:57:00] | Juski: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/ . . . /4723398.stm |
| [10:57:00] | Juski: | watch the video highlights (realplayer req'd) |
| [10:58:00] | {Jasper}: | lol BBC's Top Gear team propel a rocket-powered Mini off the ski jump in Lillehammer. |
| [11:00:00] | Juski: | where's that? |
| [11:00:00] | {Jasper}: | on bbc.com |
| [11:00:00] | {Jasper}: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/ . . . /default.stm |
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| [11:01:00] | coffee88: | There was a top-gear winter olympics special on this week(?) I've got it recorded, but not seen it yet. Looked like a lot of fun.... |
| [11:01:00] | peep: | is there any documentation yet for the included lcdserver? |
| [11:01:00] | peep: | can't find any on the wiki |
| [11:03:00] | {Jasper}: | oh christ that mini |
| [11:03:00] | {Jasper}: | HAHA |
| [11:03:00] | Juski: | was there? dammit |
| [11:04:00] | coffee88: | It's on again tonight. 10:15 pm BBC2 |
| [11:05:00] | Juski: | search didn't find it |
| [11:06:00] | coffee88: | Juski: Hmm. I got that browsing off the RT main site. But then that's london BBC2... Not sure if it's a change for you guys tup north.... |
| [11:06:00] | Juski: | searched for 'top gear' & all mythweb found was top gear on UKTVG2 |
| [11:07:00] | Juski: | got it though |
| [11:09:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm still compiling :( |
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| [11:10:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: I remember what that feels like! |
| [11:11:00] | Juski: | that snowjumping mini... f*ckin class! |
| [11:11:00] | Juski: | I'm so glad the BBC is spending my licence fee so responsibly :-D |
| [11:12:00] | coffee88: | They must make money off that show, surely! Even the GF likes watching it. And we don't have a car, either. |
| [11:12:00] | Juski: | to be honest, with stunts like that I don't care – that show is worth the fee by itself |
| [11:12:00] | coffee88: | Heh |
| [11:13:00] | coffee88: | Not to mention all the fun the have with caravans..... |
| [11:13:00] | {Jasper}: | haha brilliant |
| [11:13:00] | {Jasper}: | coffee88 look at http://www.flabber.nl/archief/015126.php |
| [11:13:00] | {Jasper}: | and press play on the movie |
| [11:14:00] | Juski: | ok so they fake a lot of the races & stuff.. but seeing real cars being radio-controlled doing a demolition derby (& stuff) is mint, in a puerile kinda way |
| [11:14:00] | {Jasper}: | :p |
| [11:14:00] | {Jasper}: | juski check out the link I posted |
| [11:14:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [11:14:00] | Juski: | mythbusters is cool, but top gear is better imho |
| [11:15:00] | coffee88: | heh |
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| [11:16:00] | Juski: | {Jasper}: lol. don't send that link to laga |
| [11:16:00] | {Jasper}: | why not? |
| [11:16:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [11:16:00] | {Jasper}: | ah I see |
| [11:16:00] | {Jasper}: | he's german |
| [11:16:00] | {Jasper}: | 8p |
| [11:17:00] | Juski: | time for some eats |
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| [11:43:00] | MattC: | have the fedora rpms on ATRPMS been moved into the stable section yet? |
| [11:45:00] | Juski: | oo just noticed 'delete+rerecord' in mythweb.. another nice touch |
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| [11:45:00] | Juski: | I like nice surprises :) |
| [11:50:00] | coffee88: | I still can't work out why I'd want to do that though? |
| [11:52:00] | Cardoe: | I do it if I'm running low on space |
| [11:52:00] | Cardoe: | and there's some other stuff I wanna record for sure |
| [11:53:00] | MattC: | or if a show has the end cut off or something. Or if the guide data had the wrong episode information listed. |
| [11:53:00] | coffee88: | It does make sort of sense.... Ah, MattC, that makes even more sense! |
| [11:54:00] | Cardoe: | MattC++ |
| [11:56:00] | Juski: | Cardoe: while you're here... quick question about 0.19 on gentoo... my mysql.txt ended up in /etc/mythtv/.mythtv – took a little bit of finding |
| [12:00:00] | Juski: | when I first installed 0.19 I could start mythbackend fine from a terminal, but the startup script was failing. I checked /home/mythtv/.mythtv, root/.mythtv – all had mysql.txt files and all were correct, but until I edited the one in /etc/mythtv/.mythtv it wouldn't start |
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| [12:10:00] | Juski: | soon fixed it when I located all the occurences of mysql.txt.. was just a matter of finding it :) |
| [12:14:00] | peep: | can't seem to get any channellocks after upgrading to 0.19. Says some error in mythtv-setup aswell on my Nexus-CA card (can't read the whole errormsg tho') |
| [12:16:00] | Juski: | peep: no such issues here – all my DVB recordings have gone fine since upgrading as far as I can tell |
| [12:16:00] | Juski: | peep: did you wipe your channels & start again or just let it import everything? |
| [12:17:00] | peep: | didn't wipe my chans, was going to do that now |
| [12:17:00] | {Jasper}: | gah wrong api version for nvidia after 2 hours of compiling |
| [12:17:00] | {Jasper}: | this is so annoyoing :P |
| [12:18:00] | Juski: | peep: if it doesn't work properly without blatting the DB, I'd suggest maybe you shouldn't. I found DVB scanning didn't work well in SVN |
| [12:19:00] | peep: | hmm, well I can't seem to have any other option, since I still don't get no picture in livetv (no signal lock) |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | peep: scour the mailiing lists |
| [12:23:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm juski I can now select standard xvmc |
| [12:23:00] | {Jasper}: | but the cpu load doesn't get reduced at all |
| [12:23:00] | Juski: | have you still only got a GF2 card? |
| [12:23:00] | {Jasper}: | no |
| [12:23:00] | {Jasper}: | fx6200 |
| [12:24:00] | Juski: | and you're definitely using the nvidia driver? |
| [12:24:00] | psofa: | Juski, about the slow channel changing in myth: myth says partial lock when trying to tune into the channel.Does this say anything about my problem? |
| [12:24:00] | Juski: | psofa: you can configure myth to wait less time by not waiting for a lock |
| [12:24:00] | {Jasper}: | juski...how can I find out? |
| [12:25:00] | {Jasper}: | I do get the nvidia screen before entering x |
| [12:25:00] | {Jasper}: | so I guess so |
| [12:25:00] | psofa: | Juski, where? |
| [12:25:00] | Juski: | {Jasper}: which version of the driver are you using? |
| [12:25:00] | psofa: | in mythtv-setup? |
| [12:25:00] | {Jasper}: | latest from the site |
| [12:25:00] | Juski: | psofa: I can't remember exactly where |
| [12:25:00] | {Jasper}: | 8178 |
| [12:25:00] | Juski: | {Jasper}: using xvmc & opengl sync with drivers newer than 7667 hogs cpu like no tomorrow |
| [12:26:00] | {Jasper}: | hogs? |
| [12:26:00] | Juski: | use nvidia-settings to disable opengl vsync temporarily |
| [12:26:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm kj |
| [12:26:00] | {Jasper}: | when I type nvidia-settings I get an error |
| [12:26:00] | Juski: | downgrading the driver to 7667 will probably fix the problem {Jasper} |
| [12:26:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm k |
| [12:27:00] | Juski: | {Jasper} so install nvidia settings you numpty |
| [12:27:00] | {Jasper}: | how can I downgrade with emerge? |
| [12:27:00] | Juski: | you can emerge a specific version |
| [12:27:00] | psofa: | Jasper, you can emerge /path/to/ebuild |
| [12:28:00] | {Jasper}: | trying now |
| [12:28:00] | Juski: | try emerge -s nvidia – should show you all the available ebuilds |
| [12:28:00] | psofa: | but its not the best way to do it |
| [12:28:00] | Juski: | then you can emerge =<specific version> |
| [12:29:00] | Juski: | downgrading can bring problems of its own if the kernel driver isn't downgraded at the same time |
| [12:29:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm so like emerge nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r5 ? |
| [12:29:00] | Juski: | emerge =nvidia-kernel-blah |
| [12:30:00] | Juski: | man emerge |
| [12:30:00] | Juski: | remembering all this kind of stuff in gentoo is getting beyond me & I often think of using a more me-friendly distro |
| [12:31:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [12:31:00] | {Jasper}: | so it's just nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx I have to downgrade? |
| [12:32:00] | Juski: | {Jasper}: yes |
| [12:32:00] | Juski: | but don't do that yet |
| [12:32:00] | Juski: | emerge nvidia-settings |
| [12:32:00] | {Jasper}: | t |
| [12:32:00] | {Jasper}: | it's allready emerging |
| [12:32:00] | {Jasper}: | don't care about out of date driver..as long as it works |
| [12:33:00] | Juski: | latest != greatest ;) |
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| [12:33:00] | Juski: | when nvidia fix the opengl vsync issue they'll be top of the tree again |
| [12:33:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm |
| [12:34:00] | {Jasper}: | I downgraded nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx |
| [12:34:00] | {Jasper}: | now I get the API mismatch stating the nvidia kernel module the old version still |
| [12:34:00] | Juski: | chances are the newer module is still loaded |
| [12:35:00] | Juski: | don't forget that the kernel module is loaded a while before x starts |
| [12:35:00] | {Jasper}: | so I should reboot? |
| [12:36:00] | Juski: | stop gdm, reload the nvidia kernel module should do the trick |
| [12:36:00] | Juski: | modprobe -r nvidia |
| [12:36:00] | Juski: | modprobe nvidia |
| [12:36:00] | Juski: | then restart gdm |
| [12:36:00] | {Jasper}: | k |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | I'm off to sort out my livingroom cabling bundle shortly – it's a proper mess |
| [12:38:00] | {Jasper}: | jmm |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | mmyes? |
| [12:38:00] | {Jasper}: | I now get failed to load module glx |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | which version is it trying to load? |
| [12:38:00] | Hoxzer: | can I configure general volume somewhere? |
| [12:39:00] | {Jasper}: | Failed to load module "glx" a required submodule could not be loaded |
| [12:39:00] | {Jasper}: | I used version 6629 |
| [12:40:00] | {Jasper}: | I think I've allready found the problem maybe..installing the driver from the site now |
| [12:40:00] | {Jasper}: | man |
| [12:40:00] | {Jasper}: | getting a lot of errors :( |
| [12:40:00] | Juski: | nvidia's own installer has had a history of issues with gentoo |
| [12:40:00] | Juski: | use emerge |
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| [12:41:00] | {Jasper}: | well the installer said the new version was still installed |
| [12:41:00] | Juski: | btw plenty of info on downgrading nvidia on gentoo forums |
| [12:41:00] | Juski: | emerge --unmerge nvidia-glx nvidia |
| [12:42:00] | {Jasper}: | doing that now juski |
| [12:42:00] | {Jasper}: | ok |
| [12:42:00] | {Jasper}: | unmerged |
| [12:43:00] | Juski: | now emerge the specific versions of glx & nvidia |
| [12:43:00] | Juski: | and modprobe -r nvidia |
| [12:44:00] | {Jasper}: | ok I'll unmerge the stable version then |
| [12:44:00] | Juski: | but before that, stop gdm to make sure X isn't running |
| [12:44:00] | Juski: | stable? newest you mean |
| [12:44:00] | {Jasper}: | how do I stop gdm? |
| [12:44:00] | {Jasper}: | just kill it? |
| [12:44:00] | Juski: | /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| [12:45:00] | {Jasper}: | no such file or dir |
| [12:45:00] | Juski: | what manager are you using? |
| [12:45:00] | {Jasper}: | I stopped xdm... |
| [12:45:00] | Juski: | ah |
| [12:46:00] | Juski: | read between the lines with me today.. not on top form. upgrading minimyth smashed my brain |
| [12:46:00] | {Jasper}: | :P |
| [12:46:00] | {Jasper}: | it's ok |
| [12:46:00] | {Jasper}: | I'll do emerge nvidia now ok? |
| [12:46:00] | Juski: | yeah but the full version number with the = sign |
| [12:46:00] | peep: | Juski, the frontend gave this error aswell [VideoOutputXv Error: Couldn't get the color key color, probably due to a driver bug or limitation. You might not get any video, but we'll try anyway.] Any idea? |
| [12:46:00] | Juski: | peep: seen that loads of times and found myth worked all the same |
| [12:47:00] | {Jasper}: | it is 6629-r5 |
| [12:47:00] | Juski: | have to try figure out why the latest minimyth stopped wakeonlan working too :-/ |
| [12:48:00] | {Jasper}: | ok |
| [12:48:00] | {Jasper}: | nvidia-glx = version 6629-r65 |
| [12:48:00] | {Jasper}: | r6 evem |
| [12:48:00] | Juski: | used to waking it from up here then by the time I get downstairs it's ready & waiting for me ;-) |
| [12:49:00] | {Jasper}: | ok emerged them juski |
| [12:49:00] | {Jasper}: | now what? |
| [12:49:00] | Juski: | now modprobe nvidia |
| [12:50:00] | {Jasper}: | done |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | so long as you remembered to modprobe -r it before |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | did you remove it earlier? |
| [12:50:00] | Hoxzer: | can I somehow configure diffrend gui size for tv view |
| [12:50:00] | {Jasper}: | yes |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | ok jasper |
| [12:51:00] | Juski: | now restart xdm |
| [12:51:00] | {Jasper}: | ok it's started |
| [12:52:00] | {Jasper}: | should I try startx now? |
| [12:52:00] | Juski: | {Jasper} yeh |
| [12:52:00] | {Jasper}: | that gives an error |
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| [12:52:00] | Juski: | I thought xdm would startx |
| [12:52:00] | {Jasper}: | nvidia failed to initialise nvidia graphics device |
| [12:53:00] | {Jasper}: | screen found but none have a usable configuration |
| [12:54:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [12:54:00] | Juski: | what's the X log look like? |
| [12:54:00] | {Jasper}: | I did a Xorg -configure |
| [12:54:00] | {Jasper}: | hmm let me look at the log |
| [12:55:00] | {Jasper}: | what should I look for in particular |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | look for errors, version numbers... |
| [12:56:00] | {Jasper}: | the nvidia module loads the correct version |
| [12:57:00] | Juski: | right... is glx the wrong version still? |
| [12:57:00] | {Jasper}: | module glx = 1.0.6629 |
| [12:57:00] | {Jasper}: | so that's correct also |
| [12:57:00] | {Jasper}: | chipset NVIDIA gpu found |
| [12:58:00] | {Jasper}: | NVIDIA X Driver 1.0–6629 |
| [12:58:00] | {Jasper}: | so it finds everything it just complains about the config.. |
| [12:58:00] | Juski: | hm |
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| [12:59:00] | Juski: | I wouldn't ordinarily say this but... try rebooting |
| [12:59:00] | Juski: | and remember I'm not on form today |
| [13:00:00] | {Jasper}: | have to switch to other laptop..its rebooting now |
| [13:00:00] | {Jasper}: | brb |
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| [13:03:00] | Jasper: | k |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | k what? |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | hmm reboot didn't work |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | stop x |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | stop xdm |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | unmerge everything nvidia again |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | stopping xdm now |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | hmm hibeds an error |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | xdm error (pid 7321): extra arguments on command line:xdm error |
| [13:06:00] | Jasper: | is xdm stop a valid command? |
| [13:06:00] | Juski: | should be |
| [13:07:00] | Jasper: | it runs x...sort of and it complaints about the stop |
| [13:07:00] | Jasper: | it starts xdm I mean when I type xdm stop |
| [13:07:00] | Juski: | no .. /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| [13:07:00] | Jasper: | that's better |
| [13:07:00] | Jasper: | xdm has noy been started yet |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | /etc/init.d/xdm zap |
| [13:08:00] | Jasper: | done |
| [13:08:00] | Jasper: | you want me to unmerge everything again?> |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | erm... maybe not |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | modprobe -r nvidia |
| [13:08:00] | Jasper: | done |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | modprobe -v nvidia – tell me what that reports |
| [13:09:00] | Jasper: | insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1/video/nvidia.ko |
| [13:09:00] | ** Juski cranks up the stereo ** | |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | heheh no version number.. handy |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | well... |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | try startx now |
| [13:10:00] | Juski: | no xdm.. just x |
| [13:10:00] | Jasper: | same error |
| [13:10:00] | Juski: | Jasper: pastebin the error |
| [13:10:00] | Jasper: | k |
| [13:10:00] | Jasper: | I'll just up the log |
| [13:10:00] | Jasper: | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/Xorg.0.log |
| [13:11:00] | Jasper: | oh wait |
| [13:11:00] | Juski: | looks like it oculd be a config issue |
| [13:11:00] | Jasper: | iot's a different error |
| [13:12:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [13:12:00] | Jasper: | it says FFailed to initialise the NVIDIA kernel module |
| [13:12:00] | Juski: | EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! |
| [13:13:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | emerge -pv =nvidia (whateverversion number) |
| [13:14:00] | Jasper: | when I try emerge -pv =nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r5 |
| [13:14:00] | Chacabaou: | I'm using aoss to run mythfrontend (didn't get it work with ALSA) which worked fine for some days and now I always get this error message: ERROR: ld.so: object libaoss.so from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. |
| [13:14:00] | Jasper: | it says Ebuild R media-vide/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r5 0 kb |
| [13:15:00] | Chacabaou: | The strange thing about that is, when I try to examine the problem using strace, the problem disappears. |
| [13:15:00] | Chacabaou: | Any ideas? (maybe on how I could get mythfrontend to use ALSA natively) |
| [13:16:00] | Juski: | Jasper: when you installed the nvidia drivers earlier on, did you use emerge or the nvidia website installer? I mean have you ever used the nvidia installer rather than emerge? |
| [13:16:00] | Jasper: | yea I have |
| [13:17:00] | coffee88: | Jasper, I have things like "=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7676-r1 ~x86" in my /etc/portage/package.keywords to get a particular version.... |
| [13:17:00] | Jasper: | I can try that |
| [13:17:00] | Calroth: | does the end of "dmesg" give any hint as to why nvidia isn't loading? |
| [13:18:00] | Jasper: | no it says; NVRM: Loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA KERNEL MODULE |
| [13:18:00] | Juski: | Jasper: that nvidia installer has an uninstall option |
| [13:18:00] | Juski: | if you ever want to remove their driver that was installed with their installer you _must_ use their own uninstaller |
| [13:19:00] | Jasper: | hmm k |
| [13:19:00] | Jasper: | wwhere can I find that unintsaller? |
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| [13:20:00] | Jasper: | I'll try a upgrade to a newer version juski |
| [13:20:00] | Jasper: | the 7676 |
| [13:21:00] | Juski: | uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [13:21:00] | Jasper: | not ok? |
| [13:21:00] | Juski: | did you read the documentation that came with the nvidia PoS installer? |
| [13:21:00] | Jasper: | there didn't came any? |
| [13:21:00] | Jasper: | it was just a .sh |
| [13:21:00] | Juski: | oh yeah – there's a big fuck-off readme.txt file |
| [13:22:00] | Jasper: | where? |
| [13:22:00] | Jasper: | ah on the site |
| [13:22:00] | Jasper: | I see |
| [13:22:00] | Calroth: | if your gentoo is set up like mine, check in /usr/portage/distfiles/NVIDIA-Linux-x86–1.0-6629-pkg1.run |
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| [13:24:00] | Calroth: | i would suppose that to uninstall, you'd do something like "sh /usr/portage/distfiles/NVIDIA-Linux-x86–1.0-6629-pkg1.run --uninstall" |
| [13:24:00] | Calroth: | but you run that command at your own discretion |
| [13:24:00] | Jasper: | ok |
| [13:25:00] | Jasper: | it uninstalled |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | mixing installer scripts & gentoo ebuilds is risky business |
| [13:26:00] | Calroth: | yeah, i'd take the ebuilds only from here in, that's what I do |
| [13:27:00] | ** coffee88 can't quite belive that he gets smooth playback over BE->14Mbps homeplg net -> wireless -> FE link.... ** | |
| [13:27:00] | Juski: | people go to lots of trouble to provide ebuilds, so use em :-) |
| [13:27:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [13:27:00] | Jasper: | ok I uninstalled |
| [13:27:00] | Juski: | coffee88: wait til someone coughs next door :-P |
| [13:27:00] | Jasper: | and emerged nvidia 7676 |
| [13:27:00] | coffee88: | heh |
| [13:28:00] | Jasper: | should I run eselect opengl set nvidia? |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | Jasper: now guess what? you might have to recompile mythtv |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | worth a try without doing that though |
| [13:29:00] | Jasper: | let's first get x working |
| [13:29:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:29:00] | Calroth: | is there a big difference for mythtv between 6629 and 7676, btw? |
| [13:29:00] | Juski: | Caltroth: not for most people |
| [13:30:00] | Juski: | never ever ever EVER upgrade just for the sake of having the latest. we're not in some fucking out-fragging game here |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | only for Jasper |
| [13:30:00] | ** Calroth is still on 6629, cos it's the latest marked as stable :-p ** | |
| [13:30:00] | Juski: | I was loathe to upgrade myth to 0.19 yesterday but I got it going relatively easily |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | WEEEEEEEEE |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | it works |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | again |
| [13:30:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:31:00] | Juski: | Jasper: you won't be using that lame-ass nvidia installer again will you? WILL YOU |
| [13:31:00] | Jasper: | don't think so ...NO |
| [13:31:00] | Juski: | if you do, ffs make sure you unmerge the ebuild you've got first |
| [13:31:00] | Juski: | and use nvidia's uninstaller |
| [13:32:00] | Juski: | Jasper: I know what you've been through with the nvidia driver – I had the same headache |
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| [13:33:00] | Juski: | and can I just say.. "hello, jack & meg white.. can you please use digital recording, or at least get some freakin noise reduction gear in"... |
| [13:33:00] | coffee88: | ??! |
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| [13:33:00] | Juski: | never heard hiss like that on an album in _years_ |
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| [13:34:00] | Jasper: | ok let's try xvmc |
| [13:34:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:35:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [13:35:00] | Jasper: | still 90% cpu load |
| [13:35:00] | Jasper: | I'm going crazy here |
| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | libmpeg2 runs better then xvmc |
| [13:37:00] | Calroth: | on my sempron 2400 and geforcefx 5200, i get about 80% load for HD |
| [13:37:00] | Calroth: | but 100% and dropping frames without xvmc |
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| [13:37:00] | Calroth: | i dunno how people measure "cpu load", i basically call it 100% – idle% |
| [13:37:00] | Jasper: | I'm out of ideas here.. |
| [13:38:00] | Jasper: | is there a simpe way of seeing if xvmc works? |
| [13:38:00] | Calroth: | sure, bring up the OSD, if it's black and white, xvmc is working ;-) |
| [13:38:00] | Jasper: | it's see through |
| [13:38:00] | Calroth: | unless you specifically turned on chromakey OSD, you have to go to some trouble |
| [13:38:00] | coffee88: | It shows as loaded in the xorg logs, huh? |
| [13:39:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [13:39:00] | Beirdo: | did you rebuild X with xvmc support? |
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| [13:39:00] | Beirdo: | err |
| [13:39:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv |
| [13:39:00] | Jasper: | ahhhhhhhhh |
| [13:39:00] | Beirdo: | I need coffee |
| [13:39:00] | Jasper: | VideoOutput Error could not open XvMC port |
| [13:39:00] | ** juski_ is playing very loud music in 0.19 ** | |
| [13:39:00] | juski_: | and it's like 5% too fast! |
| [13:40:00] | juski_: | no it's more than that.. |
| [13:40:00] | juski_: | LOL |
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| [13:40:00] | Jasper: | juski ever seen that error before? |
| [13:41:00] | juski_: | Jasper:time to recompile mythtv |
| [13:41:00] | juski_: | you compiled it with newer nvidia drivers |
| [13:41:00] | Jasper: | just emerge mythtv ? |
| [13:41:00] | juski_: | so mythtv is linked to the newer, now no longer existent xvmc for nvidia AFAICT |
| [13:42:00] | Calroth: | "emerge mythtv" should do it |
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| [13:42:00] | juski_: | okay...music playback is way too quick |
| [13:42:00] | juski_: | what the hell? |
| [13:42:00] | Calroth: | and then get a few cups of coffee cos you know it'll take a while :-) |
| [13:42:00] | Jasper: | ok ...emerge will be done in 50 mins :P |
| [13:42:00] | Jasper: | I think |
| [13:42:00] | Jasper: | if not more |
| [13:42:00] | Calroth: | actually, i had ccache installed and mythtv picked it up... rebuilds in about 5 minutes |
| [13:43:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: My be time to install ccache first?! |
| [13:44:00] | juski_: | cramfs:wrong magic?!?!?! what the?? |
| [13:45:00] | juski_: | guess alsa:iec958 was the wrong option to choose for mythmusic output |
| [13:45:00] | briand: | panic! bad magic number! |
| [13:46:00] | juski_: | but _three_ is the magic number,iirc |
| [13:46:00] | briand: | no, third time is the charm. ;) |
| [13:46:00] | juski_: | maybe it's looking for the karmic fibinnachi or somefink |
| [13:47:00] | briand: | seriously, do you know what 'magic' is all about on *nix? |
| [13:47:00] | juski_: | yes |
| [13:47:00] | briand: | m'kay. ;) |
| [13:47:00] | juski_: | used to work for a firm who made fault-tolerant 68040-based Unix systems |
| [13:48:00] | coffee88: | £200 + VAT for a mini-itx case?! They're having a laugh! |
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| [13:49:00] | juski_: | coffee88: yeh..all the way to the bank! |
| [13:49:00] | briand: | quite a number of years ago, I submitted the magic for determining Enable Software's various file formats.. hmm.. I wonder if it's still in there... |
| [13:49:00] | juski_: | time to edit that minimyth.conf file again |
| [13:49:00] | coffee88: | It must be made of silver, not just silver coloured! |
| [13:50:00] | juski_: | coffee88: you could get someone to hand-craft you a case for about the same amount |
| [13:50:00] | Beirdo: | using 2x2 timbers and sheet metal? :) |
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| [13:51:00] | juski_: | ok I exaggerateed |
| [13:51:00] | briand: | hmm.. nope, not there. perhaps it's still on sco |
| [13:51:00] | coffee88: | perspex would do |
| [13:52:00] | juski_: | trying just digital out in minimyth now.. see if it'll playmusic @ the right speed |
| [13:52:00] | juski_: | this is what comes of iec958 being 48khz & my music being 44k I bet |
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| [13:54:00] | juski_: | dammit..still too bloody fast |
| [13:54:00] | juski_: | I don'tmind 2 or 3%.. but 10%? |
| [13:54:00] | quitte: | surprises me you can hear the difference |
| [13:54:00] | juski_: | I was a club DJ |
| [13:54:00] | juski_: | 10% is a _lot_ |
| [13:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [13:54:00] | Beirdo: | I play my TV at 1.2x |
| [13:55:00] | Beirdo: | so I have kinda gotten used to 20% too fast |
| [13:55:00] | quitte: | Beirdo: saves some time? |
| [13:55:00] | juski_: | be nice to hear a DJ CD turntable with pitch shifting as good as myth's |
| [13:55:00] | DGnome_: | :D |
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| [13:56:00] | juski_: | music still sounds okay at 20% faster in myth..except it's fast |
| [13:56:00] | Beirdo: | yah, saves a LOT of time |
| [13:56:00] | juski_: | do that on a Pioneer CDDJ deck...oh shit that's baaaad |
| [13:57:00] | juski_: | wrong magic again... |
| [13:58:00] | quitte: | juski_: mythtv doesnt need resampling for that – while the pioneer does it. but it could instead just overclock the dsp. otoh optical out wouldnt work that way |
| [13:58:00] | juski_: | quitte: the pioneer & myth players fettle the audio in a similar way |
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| [13:58:00] | quitte: | hmm. thinking about it digital out on cds is a bad idea. |
| [13:58:00] | juski_: | up the speed & change the pitch (key) of the audio |
| [13:59:00] | juski_: | quitte: most dj players still do a proper digi out in varispeed mode |
| [13:59:00] | quitte: | juski_: i thought your problem was the actual dac being at wrong frequency? |
| [13:59:00] | juski_: | quitte: no – I'm using digital out.. and my music is at44khz |
| [14:00:00] | juski_: | as everyone knows spdif etc is 48k by default |
| [14:00:00] | quitte: | so it gets output at 48khz without resampling? |
| [14:00:00] | juski_: | yup |
| [14:00:00] | juski_: | baaad |
| [14:00:00] | juski_: | used to be alright before I upgraded |
| [14:00:00] | quitte: | so you loose quality with digi out on cd players as they do resample |
| [14:01:00] | juski_: | quitte: yes but not so you'd notice when it's banged out at 110dBA |
| [14:02:00] | juski_: | trying good ole (shitty) on board analogue now |
| [14:02:00] | quitte: | right. even vinyl works good then |
| [14:02:00] | juski_: | vinyl is better than CD in that environment |
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| [14:03:00] | juski_: | the bass is erm... better. the numbers just don't add up but it really sounds much better |
| [14:04:00] | quitte: | must be the needle getting extra frequency from surrounding noise |
| [14:04:00] | juski_: | quitte: not really. put an sl1210 too close to your sub and erm... wuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [14:04:00] | juski_: | okees... analog sounds shitty but the right speed |
| [14:05:00] | quitte: | ever tried listening to the second turntable when no vinyl is on it? |
| [14:05:00] | juski_: | wonder if my amp should be resampling & it ain't... |
| [14:05:00] | quitte: | i never did – but now would like to |
| [14:06:00] | quitte: | if your amp did that music would get out of sync and it'd have to make a break when the buffer is full or empty. dont want to think about which is the case |
| [14:06:00] | juski_: | quitte: yeh – when I wasn't too busy wrestling pissed arseholes |
| [14:06:00] | quitte: | juski_: and? |
| [14:06:00] | juski_: | good pickup of surrounding music... |
| [14:06:00] | juski_: | maybe 40dB quieter but still... |
| [14:07:00] | quitte: | nothing like bass is more extrem than normally? |
| [14:07:00] | juski_: | so I guess it's a factor you don't notice but can tell when it's missing |
| [14:08:00] | juski_: | okay... |
| [14:08:00] | juski_: | I changed back to digital+analog |
| [14:08:00] | juski_: | now music is the right speed |
| [14:08:00] | juski_: | what the hell?!?! |
| [14:09:00] | ** juski_ exercises his sub ** | |
| [14:09:00] | juski_: | crossover freq needs a tweak |
| [14:11:00] | juski_: | jesus I had this thing on 11 on new year's |
| [14:11:00] | juski_: | got 100dBA with volume on 0 |
| [14:12:00] | ** juski_ hopes his neighbours were already awake ** | |
| [14:13:00] | quitte: | juski_: on the toilet got another idea why vinyl sounds "better" |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [14:13:00] | quitte: | high frequency travels faster? |
| [14:13:00] | juski_: | lol |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | that echoing fart gave you an idea? |
| [14:13:00] | juski_: | ermm... yeh that's why the best systems are time-aligned |
| [14:13:00] | juski_: | www.phazon.org |
| [14:14:00] | juski_: | club local to me has a phazon... omfg... don't go there if your guts are bit loose |
| [14:14:00] | quitte: | ok. so sound comes out of box and until you get the oversampling from the needle the high frequencies are closer to original time then original. so low frequencies are stretched |
| [14:15:00] | juski_: | anyone live next door to a music lover who has a bad-boy subwoofer? |
| [14:15:00] | juski_: | ;-) |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | thankfully not |
| [14:16:00] | juski_: | back down to -4 |
| [14:16:00] | juski_: | have some consideration |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | at least it's the daytime |
| [14:17:00] | juski_: | watched ST:TNG the other week with the HT amp on |
| [14:17:00] | quitte: | err s/then original/than low frequencies |
| [14:17:00] | juski_: | never heard the lf rumble before |
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| [14:19:00] | briand: | juski_: I used to... when i was in an apartment. fixed it, though. I have a Sony Audio Test CDROM. I looped the 50Hz-20MHz sweep at half volume through my 4-channel 100w system (plus subwoofer) for about 40 minutes. I think he got the 'hint'. |
| [14:20:00] | juski_: | heheh |
| [14:20:00] | juski_: | 3 words: |
| [14:20:00] | quitte: | juski_: maybe some time you could try using a mic at low volume to play the sound back into the room. maybe it improves cd sound |
| [14:20:00] | juski_: | digital video essentials :) |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | what about dvd-audio though eh? super high sampling rates to excite alsatians |
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| [14:27:00] | Juski: | right now to have a nice cuppa & sort my wires out |
| [14:28:00] | briand: | whatcha wiring up? |
| [14:28:00] | sphing: | Juski: were you and coffee upgrading myth from emergE? |
| [14:29:00] | coffee88: | sphing: I was. |
| [14:29:00] | sphing: | o you're around... |
| [14:29:00] | sphing: | I can't find 19 as a packet |
| [14:29:00] | sphing: | *pacage |
| [14:29:00] | Jasper: | wohooo coffee88 |
| [14:29:00] | Jasper: | your pc is not the only slow one :P |
| [14:29:00] | coffee88: | You'll need to unmask it in package.keywords...... |
| [14:30:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: Wondered how you were getting on.... ? |
| [14:30:00] | sphing: | coffee88: yea but I dont even see it when I -s mythtv... |
| [14:30:00] | Jasper: | still compiling..avformatdecoder.o |
| [14:30:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:30:00] | juski_: | briand: just tidying |
| [14:31:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [14:31:00] | juski_: | this is mad. playing back music uses more CPU than playing recordings |
| [14:32:00] | briand: | on my second cup (coffee) here.. and still on the computer... no energy to tidy anything up, yet. ;) |
| [14:32:00] | coffee88: | sphing: I have media-tv/mythtv ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords. That got me 19 after a sync |
| [14:33:00] | sphing: | i just synced 3 days ago... I'll try again |
| [14:33:00] | coffee88: | juski_: Tidying cables never works for more than a day.,,, |
| [14:33:00] | briand: | coffee88: less than that, around here, it seems |
| [14:33:00] | coffee88: | sphing: Hmm. Should have been there.... I think. |
| [14:34:00] | coffee88: | I've learned not to look into the spaghetti junction any more.... |
| [14:34:00] | juski_: | coffee88:when you have spiral wrap it does |
| [14:34:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
| [14:34:00] | Jasper: | hmm coffee88 do you remember vsync being somewhere in the end? |
| [14:34:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: You don't know my memory then. |
| [14:35:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [14:36:00] | coffee88: | I have a ups here that arrived a few days ago that I still haven't plugged in as I can't face trying to sort the cable mess out..... |
| [14:36:00] | sphing: | anyone else have on multiple mythtv boxes running from the mythtv directory |
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| [14:46:00] | juski_: | there we go.. all nice again |
| [14:47:00] | juski_: | I was gonna install a floorbox behind the TV when we redecorated but couldn't be arsed cutting the floorboards up |
| [14:48:00] | Chutt: | Feb 18 14:48:21 www postfix/smtp[26234]: 93D1716F5EE: to=<paulmaynard@nerdshack.com >, relay=mail.nerdshack.com[209.189.235.50], delay=215826, status=deferred (host mail.nerdshack.com[209.189.235.50] said: 451 This user account has been configured not to accept more than 50 messages per twenty-four hour period from any single internet subnet. Please try again later. (in reply to RCPT TO command)) |
| [14:48:00] | Chutt: | what a moron |
| [14:48:00] | Chutt: | this is why people shouldn't run their own mail servers. |
| [14:49:00] | juski_: | oops! |
| [14:50:00] | xpis: | Is there a way for myth to recognize nuv files on a mounted files, such as a dvd? |
| [14:50:00] | dtm: | Chutt: are you sure he does? it sounds precisely like he doesnt. |
| [14:50:00] | xpis: | s/files/device/ |
| [14:50:00] | Chutt: | dtm, people that run their own servers tend to do stuff like that |
| [14:50:00] | dtm: | Chutt: oh really? why would they choose to wreck their own accounts? |
| [14:50:00] | Chutt: | or run tarpits that only.... accept..... mail..... very........ very........................... slowly...................... |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | why would anyone setup a mail server like that THEN join a mailing list? |
| [14:51:00] | Chutt: | because they're rabid linux anti-spam people, that's why! |
| [14:51:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | people are stupid |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:51:00] | xpis: | Chutt: just configure that person to use digest mode in the list(s) they are subscribed to. |
| [14:51:00] | Chutt: | xpis, i just disabled their account |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | even better :) |
| [14:51:00] | xpis: | That works. |
| [14:51:00] | Chutt: | it was easier than finding the digest toggle |
| [14:51:00] | Chutt: | of course, i think it's on the same page |
| [14:52:00] | Chutt: | dtm, because no _real_ person sends tons of mail to them |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | tarpits are great, but you really should make exceptions for any mailing list servers you KNOW you will be receiving mail from |
| [14:53:00] | Chutt: | it's like the people that sign up for the mailing list then complain about getting no email because they have a challenge/response system setup |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather just have my machine receive full bore then toss crap |
| [14:55:00] | Chutt: | ah, ok, so nerdshack.com isn't a privately run server |
| [14:55:00] | ** threat is watching Little Britain DVD Season 1 ** | |
| [14:55:00] | xpis: | ...where we provide the public with free anonymous POP3 e-mail accounts... – serves the user right. |
| [14:55:00] | Chutt: | still, from their lameass missions statement, it sounds like some fucktard linux user |
| [14:56:00] | Beirdo: | of course, witnessing the havok caused by people like that when dealing with the mail servers at work kinda makes me want my system to act like a "professional" setup, not some fucktard setup like that |
| [14:56:00] | Chutt: | eh |
| [14:56:00] | Chutt: | it's not causing problems, just filling up my logs as postfix retries stuff :p |
| [14:56:00] | Chutt: | i was making sure the lists were working again |
| [14:56:00] | Beirdo: | eventually, if enough do that, your queues will get huge |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | of course, our systems at work relay millions of messages a day, so it's far more likely to crap out from huge queues |
| [14:57:00] | Chutt: | we have some pretty aggressive settings for dropping mail |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | good ;) |
| [14:58:00] | threat: | Beirdo, ya I know |
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| [14:59:00] | xpis: | So.. is there any method of making myth see nuv (mpeg4) files on a dvd, or would I be better to convert them to some other container? |
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| [14:59:00] | Chutt: | mythvideo doesn't really have any removeable media support |
| [15:02:00] | xpis: | Let's see... I could always make a script softlink them all to mythtv's video directory, and then run the script to regenerate the recorded shows database. :) |
| [15:03:00] | Juski: | well not the recorded shows database |
| [15:04:00] | Juski: | the video bit of the database... videometadata |
| [15:05:00] | Juski: | you could do the same thing by having a symlink directory in your mythvideo directory |
| [15:05:00] | Juski: | link it to an automount |
| [15:05:00] | xpis: | And would mythvideo automatically see new videos placed in there (by mounting a dvd) |
| [15:06:00] | Juski: | no |
| [15:06:00] | Juski: | I don't think it does even if you enable file browsing, but try it anyway |
| [15:07:00] | Beirdo: | dentist -2h... |
| [15:07:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [15:10:00] | Jasper: | still compiling coffee88 |
| [15:11:00] | coffee88: | Running mythweb on a different box to the BE, I can never get the backend status page to load. Anyone else find this? |
| [15:11:00] | juski_: | Beirdo: you booked in for long – were you told how long it's gonna take? |
| [15:11:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: ah, yes, waiting on your wisdom teeth. |
| [15:11:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: What did it take me last time? About 4 hours? |
| [15:12:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [15:12:00] | Jasper: | times have gone up since .18 |
| [15:12:00] | Jasper: | that's for sure |
| [15:12:00] | juski_: | only took about 40 mins to emerge 0.19 |
| [15:12:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: It won't be as bad as you fear it. |
| [15:12:00] | Chutt: | yeah, compile times have gone up |
| [15:12:00] | Chutt: | it almost takes me 7 minutes nowadays |
| [15:12:00] | juski_: | the plugins etc took it to able 90 mins |
| [15:12:00] | coffee88: | file_get_contents(http://ipaddress:6544): failed to open stream: Connection timed out |
| [15:12:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: (I had to have 4 removed) |
| [15:13:00] | coffee88: | grrr. |
| [15:13:00] | juski_: | coffee88: on gentoo? |
| [15:13:00] | coffee88: | Yup. |
| [15:13:00] | juski_: | I found last night that starting mythbackend with the init script didn't work |
| [15:13:00] | juski_: | but running it from a terminal did |
| [15:14:00] | Jasper: | wrong user running it juski? |
| [15:14:00] | juski_: | turned out to be /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt not /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [15:14:00] | coffee88: | I had to change the init script... There was another one in /etc like ._confMythbackend or something... Had to swap them over.... |
| [15:15:00] | coffee88: | oh, in conf.d |
| [15:17:00] | juski_: | no there was a new mysql.txt file in /etc/mythtv/.mythtv |
| [15:17:00] | juski_: | where previously there was just /etc/mythtv |
| [15:18:00] | coffee88: | You're not still using teh 18 init script though? |
| [15:18:00] | coffee88: | Bah! Why can I only type "the" 50% of the time. Grrrrr. |
| [15:19:00] | juski_: | no I updated the init script using etc-update |
| [15:19:00] | juski_: | figured it best todo that |
| [15:19:00] | xpis: | What do people use to get mpeg4 streams out of nuv files? mplayer? |
| [15:19:00] | coffee88: | I thought I had, but there was still another one there that I had to manually swap over, if my memory is right..... |
| [15:20:00] | coffee88: | And it may not be. |
| [15:20:00] | juski_: | heheh DTS works |
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| [15:23:00] | juski_: | and whatever I said last night about the new unichrome driver – I take it back |
| [15:25:00] | coffee88: | actually, that's odd. the header for my mythbackend init script still has "mythbackend-0.18.2.rc" in the header..... Hmmm. Starts as mythtv user now though, so something must have changed.... |
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| [15:27:00] | coffee88: | juski_: Which new driver? |
| [15:28:00] | juski_: | coffee88: whichever one the 0.19beta2 minimyth uses |
| [15:28:00] | coffee88: | Ah. Not working right? |
| [15:28:00] | juski_: | works perfick |
| [15:28:00] | juski_: | the version I had before, mythvideo & mythdvd were using xv |
| [15:28:00] | juski_: | now using xxmc |
| [15:28:00] | juski_: | top-tastic |
| [15:29:00] | coffee88: | sweet. Are you running on 1gig cpu? |
| [15:29:00] | juski_: | yup |
| [15:29:00] | coffee88: | What's the load watching recordings? |
| [15:30:00] | juski_: | 15% |
| [15:30:00] | juski_: | used, not 15%free |
| [15:30:00] | juski_: | uses more playing mp3s |
| [15:30:00] | juski_: | erm..right... what's the command to show xine keymaps again? |
| [15:31:00] | coffee88: | I get about 35–45 ish on a 600... Not too bad, but I'd still prefer less... But then I guess that's what you get for wanting fanless.... |
| [15:31:00] | juski_: | never mind --keymap |
| [15:32:00] | Jasper: | woohooo |
| [15:32:00] | Jasper: | it finished |
| [15:32:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:32:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: But does it work?! |
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| [15:33:00] | juski_: | just added a remote button to toggle deinterlacing |
| [15:34:00] | juski_: | don't want to add custom commands to mythvideo juust yet |
| [15:35:00] | Jasper: | hmm Juski more errors :P |
| [15:35:00] | Jasper: | cpu load 2%... |
| [15:35:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:35:00] | Jasper: | but black screen |
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| [15:36:00] | Jasper: | I get VIdeoOutputXv Error: Couldn't get the color key color, probably due to a driver bug or limitation. You might not get any video but ew'll try anyway |
| [15:37:00] | Jasper: | and I don't get any video :P |
| [15:37:00] | Jasper: | before that I get Error:Badmatch (invalid paramater attributes) 8 Major opcode: 140 Minor opcode:14 |
| [15:38:00] | juski_: | hmmm xine is a bit judderry playing back Indy's last crusade :-/ cpu is at35% though |
| [15:39:00] | ** threat is confused ** | |
| [15:40:00] | juski_: | fight scene in Kill Bill looks fabbo though.. go figure |
| [15:41:00] | Jasper: | juski any ideas? |
| [15:41:00] | juski_: | Jasper: it's fucked ;-)# |
| [15:42:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [15:42:00] | Jasper: | interesting.. |
| [15:42:00] | Jasper: | anything I can do about it? |
| [15:44:00] | juski_: | Jasper: that's a common error |
| [15:44:00] | juski_: | googleoogleoogle |
| [15:44:00] | Kelerion-flux: | ok – I have a new toy |
| [15:44:00] | Kelerion-flux: | flite |
| [15:45:00] | juski_: | flite? wossat? |
| [15:45:00] | Kelerion-flux: | it's causing my dogs to freak and my wife to laugh |
| [15:45:00] | Kelerion-flux: | festival type |
| [15:45:00] | Kelerion-flux: | speech synthesis |
| [15:45:00] | juski_: | ahh |
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| [15:45:00] | juski_: | repeat after me |
| [15:46:00] | juski_: | "touch me..so I can get some ..satisfaction" |
| [15:46:00] | Jasper: | nvidia removed the video overlay in 6600 series cards, also for the 7800, |
| [15:46:00] | Kelerion-flux: | what the?? lol |
| [15:50:00] | juski_: | get it to sing.. be the next Busted |
| [15:50:00] | juski_: | or James C*** |
| [15:50:00] | Kelerion-flux: | lol |
| [15:52:00] | quitte: | would any of you play some #trivia with me? |
| [15:53:00] | juski_: | oh yeah baby.. my own DVD rips have come out nice & good in DTS |
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| [15:57:00] | Jasper: | hmm I'm dying inside.. |
| [15:57:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:57:00] | quitte: | go to #trivia instead |
| [15:58:00] | juski_: | nah.. try www.poker.roburass.com |
| [15:58:00] | quitte: | some xskat maybe? |
| [15:59:00] | juski_: | xskat? that doesn't sound fun. sounds messy |
| [15:59:00] | quitte: | skat is a great card game |
| [16:00:00] | juski_: | pardon me, but I'm a bit preoccupied |
| [16:00:00] | sphing: | coffee88: any advisories before i emerge mythtv |
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| [16:01:00] | juski_: | sphing: yeh. back up your DB |
| [16:01:00] | sphing: | ... as we speak |
| [16:01:00] | sphing: | it jsut finished |
| [16:01:00] | coffee88: | sphing: No, not really. You'll just have to change some perms afterwards... |
| [16:01:00] | sphing: | alright going for it now on my backend |
| [16:02:00] | coffee88: | Oh, and add the mythtv user to some groups.... |
| [16:04:00] | sphing: | ... the themes package is masked and its flipping out even thought its inmy package.keywords |
| [16:05:00] | coffee88: | x11-themes/mythtv-themes ~x86 |
| [16:06:00] | sphing: | --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.19 |
| [16:06:00] | Jasper: | coffee88 it aint working |
| [16:06:00] | juski_: | okees got xine behaving again |
| [16:06:00] | coffee88: | sphing: Take off the 0.19? |
| [16:07:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: Which bit? |
| [16:07:00] | Jasper: | coffee88 xvmc |
| [16:07:00] | Jasper: | I'm getting VideoOutputXv errors |
| [16:07:00] | coffee88: | That's out of my league |
| [16:07:00] | sphing: | <-- silly goose |
| [16:08:00] | Jasper: | Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. You likely won't get any video |
| [16:08:00] | juski_: | xvattr |
| [16:09:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [16:09:00] | juski_: | this is almost definitely in the docs come to think of it.. if it aint it's in many a howto |
| [16:09:00] | juski_: | the xvattr command |
| [16:13:00] | flindet_: | anyone here have the mythflix working? |
| [16:14:00] | Juski: | Jasper: emerge xvattr I think |
| [16:14:00] | nasa: | What works a video card harder — watching tv (no xmvc support) ,displaying standard graphics (different menus for example) or mythmusic (with it's minor 3d graphics) |
| [16:14:00] | Juski: | nasa: prolly the latter |
| [16:14:00] | flindet_: | mine is mostly working (maybe it is fully working), but I'm not able to add movies from the "Browse Movies" section to my queue. Is that the same experience as others? |
| [16:15:00] | Juski: | flindet_: I was under the impression that's all mythflix can do, but being in the UK I can't test it |
| [16:15:00] | flindet_: | oh, it can browse, but not add to the queue? bummer :-( |
| [16:15:00] | nasa: | Juski: does watching tv tax the card at all (or is it just a pass thru) |
| [16:15:00] | Juski: | nasa: not really |
| [16:16:00] | flindet_: | Juski: You'd think there would be a way to add to the queue, because you can manipulate the queue by moving movies to the top or deleting them. So, it would be nice if when browsing you could add a movie to the queue if you like it |
| [16:16:00] | Juski: | taxes the CPU more than the GPU when you're not using xvmc, but then even in X you're getting 2d acceleration |
| [16:17:00] | Juski: | nasa: I doubt mythtv would push a recent-ish card much unless you're playing back 1080 HD with xvmc |
| [16:18:00] | nasa: | Reason I ask is that I am witnessing strange lockup — watching tv works fine, but doing other things (like moving among menus) causing the frontend to lockup... |
| [16:18:00] | nasa: | I am thinking it might be video card overheating... |
| [16:18:00] | Juski: | maybe it's something else |
| [16:19:00] | Juski: | been using 0.19 for a good few hours here without any issues on my lickle EPIA system |
| [16:19:00] | sphing: | coffee88: I'm going for it alll currently emerging on 4 machines |
| [16:20:00] | coffee88: | If one of them is like mine you'll know how it went in 4 hours.... |
| [16:20:00] | flindet_: | Juski: Did you hear adding movies was a technical impossibility, or just that they haven't got around to coding that portion yet? |
| [16:20:00] | nasa: | Juski: I can vnc into the box, startup a new frontend and it works as expected. But at the tv the frontend will lock up (X will typically start taking 99% of cpu, although not all the time) |
| [16:20:00] | Jasper: | will install it juski |
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| [16:22:00] | jams: | flindet- it has the ablity to add movies to the queue. |
| [16:22:00] | jams: | Currently I am getting an error but the ability is there |
| [16:23:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... just upgrading to 0.19 here, and I'm trying to get mythweb to work again. It says there's supposed to be directions in .htaccess about some db* vars, but .htaccess file that the gentoo ebuild installed doesn't have any of this!? Is it documented somewhere else? |
| [16:24:00] | juski_: | flithm: rm -rf the mythweb directory and emerge it again |
| [16:24:00] | flithm: | k |
| [16:25:00] | juski_: | .htaccess wouldn't have been overwritten |
| [16:26:00] | flithm: | i guess that's probably a good thing |
| [16:27:00] | juski_: | I didn't rm the directory, merely renamed it |
| [16:27:00] | juski_: | it's gone now though ;-) |
| [16:27:00] | flithm: | NOW you tell me :)... j/k, I did the same |
| [16:27:00] | flindet_: | jams: You can add movies from the "Browse Movies" section? How are you doing it? |
| [16:28:00] | juski_: | off-hand anybody know what core voltage lmsensors should report for an EPIA-M ? |
| [16:31:00] | flithm: | thanks Juski, got it working again... pretty sweet little intro screen! |
| [16:32:00] | flindet_: | jams: I find a movie in the new releases, and I try hitting enter, but no menu or option to add it to my queue comes up. How are you adding it to your queue? |
| [16:34:00] | jams: | press right |
| [16:34:00] | flindet_: | jams: Nothing :-( |
| [16:34:00] | flindet_: | jams: You're doing this in the "Browse movies" section? |
| [16:34:00] | jams: | yes |
| [16:35:00] | jams: | watch the console, look for errors |
| [16:35:00] | jams: | or look in the log file |
| [16:35:00] | jams: | you should see the request to netflix |
| [16:35:00] | flindet_: | jams: I'm just getting 200 |
| [16:35:00] | flindet_: | does it bring up a menu for you? Or does it quietly just add it to the queue? |
| [16:36:00] | jams: | quietly |
| [16:36:00] | flindet_: | oh, maybe it's working and I'm just not noticing because my queue hasn't refreshed? |
| [16:37:00] | flindet_: | jams: Hmmm..Nope. Logging into the netflix website, I don't see anything added to the queue. :-( |
| [16:37:00] | flindet_: | jams: Hmmm.. I tried movie a movie to the top of my queue, and that crashed mythfrontend! |
| [16:39:00] | xpis: | Is there a tool specifically made for converting mpeg4 nuv files into some other container? (avi, ogg) Does anyone have mplayer working with mythtv nuv files? |
| [16:39:00] | flithm: | I've got another issue since upgrading... when I go to watch recordings I get a long list of recordings that don't exist anymore... filename doesn't exist... is there a good way of removing them? |
| [16:41:00] | flindet_: | jams: In fact, when I hit 1 on my remote, it just selects the top of the queue. It doesn't move the movie to the top of the queue. :-( |
| [16:41:00] | flithm: | when I try to delete it just says the "file for this recording can not be found" do I have to manually create the files again? |
| [16:41:00] | Jasper: | juski I emerged xvattr...what shoud I do with it? |
| [16:42:00] | flithm: | touch /home/mythtv/1005_20050803230000_20050804000000.nuv |
| [16:42:00] | flithm: | err oops |
| [16:42:00] | flithm: | :) |
| [16:43:00] | flithm: | this is pretty irritating... there has to be a better way |
| [16:45:00] | Jasper: | juski what should I do with xvattr ? |
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| [16:47:00] | drdaz: | hello all... I've noticed on the mailing list that many users are having live TV issues with 0.19. I was wondering if anybody wasnt having problems. I'm particularly interested in those using atrpms... |
| [16:48:00] | xpis: | drdaz: What sort of problems are you having? |
| [16:48:00] | drdaz: | crashes when programmes 'change' |
| [16:48:00] | xpis: | drdaz: nearly everyone here is using 0.19 without problem. |
| [16:48:00] | drdaz: | ahh ok |
| [16:48:00] | xpis: | drdaz: That's quite odd. What does the log file say? |
| [16:49:00] | drdaz: | good to hear... I suspected that it was just the minority making a noise |
| [16:49:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: I'm using atrpms, and livetv is working, though I have literally launched it ONLY for a quick test. I never watch livetv regularly. But it does start and run. |
| [16:49:00] | drdaz: | oh I'm not running it yet :) |
| [16:49:00] | drdaz: | ok |
| [16:49:00] | xpis: | drdaz: if you're not running it.. how do you know it crashes? |
| [16:49:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: I'm running livetv now. no problems yet |
| [16:49:00] | drdaz: | I'm hesitating on installing it... cant risk WAF |
| [16:49:00] | flindet_: | changes channels a bit faster than it used to |
| [16:50:00] | drdaz: | xpis: mailing list |
| [16:50:00] | Jasper: | hmm when I try xvattr -a NV_COLORKEY it doesn't work either |
| [16:50:00] | drdaz: | there are many posts of the sort |
| [16:50:00] | xpis: | drdaz: well, most of us have been using 0.19 for months now. |
| [16:50:00] | flindet_: | i just upgrade to 0.19 yesterday. but so far so good |
| [16:50:00] | flindet_: | I'm having some minor issues with mythflix |
| [16:50:00] | flindet_: | but otherwise everything is fine |
| [16:50:00] | xpis: | drdaz: if you have problems with atrpms, compile from source before submitting a bug report. |
| [16:51:00] | xpis: | drdaz: (for crash bugs that is) |
| [16:51:00] | flithm: | I found a small 0.19 bug. deleting the last recording updates the list to show no recordings, but the little preview window is still trying to play the last recording. it hangs my frontend for a little while, then lets me escape out |
| [16:51:00] | drdaz: | sure thing :) I just wanted to hear whether it was a real problem or just the handful of folks who do have issues who were actually saying something |
| [16:52:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: still no problem with livetv. what in particular do you want me to test? |
| [16:52:00] | xpis: | flithm: thanks for the report. You may want to send mail to the mythtv dev list. |
| [16:52:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: I'm using nvidia with xvmc if that matters |
| [16:52:00] | flithm: | xpis, cool. |
| [16:52:00] | drdaz: | people are saying that when a programme is scheduled to end and the next starts, something goes wrong |
| [16:52:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: oh, okay. so, I need to wait for a show to end? |
| [16:53:00] | drdaz: | I guess... heh |
| [16:53:00] | xpis: | flithm: It will most likely be fixed in the svn fairly quickly, since it is such a small, easy to fix problem. |
| [16:53:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: okay, looks like we'll have to wait for 10 minutes then |
| [16:53:00] | drdaz: | or find one that's close to ending? I wont trouble you though.. |
| [16:53:00] | xpis: | flithm: however, it shouldn't bother too many people – not many people delete *all* of their recordings. |
| [16:53:00] | flithm: | xpis, yeah I figured... overall I'm really impressed with 0.19! |
| [16:53:00] | xpis: | flithm: What happens if you delete the last recording in a group (but not all recordings)? |
| [16:54:00] | flithm: | xpis, I dunno, I didn't test that... I was just deleting all my recordings, and now I have none left :) |
| [16:54:00] | xpis: | flithm: for example, have a recorded program in the list. Watch live tv. Change your filter to show only livetv recordings. Delete all such recordings. |
| [16:54:00] | flithm: | interesting |
| [16:55:00] | flithm: | where is this filter you speak of? |
| [16:55:00] | flithm: | it must be the last in a group, because I haven't deleted live buffers... only scheduled recordings |
| [16:56:00] | xpis: | flithm: press M (or menu) in the watch recordings menu. |
| [16:56:00] | flithm: | just found it :) |
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| [16:56:00] | Jasper: | anyone here using a nvidia 6200 ? |
| [16:57:00] | flithm: | xpis, yeah the same thing happens... it's actually quite weird. The list changes to show "Sorry, no recordings avail", the preview window goes away, and then it comes back and actually starts to play the deleted recording for a few frame, then stutters to a stop, and the frontend hangs for a bit at that point |
| [16:57:00] | xpis: | ok.. someone let mythtv.info expire. Now, someone either gets to pay go daddy $70 or have it sold to the highest bidder. (and domain squatters will bid, as it has high google ratings) |
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| [16:58:00] | flithm: | that's irritating |
| [16:58:00] | drdaz: | flindet_: as far as I can tell, whats supposed to happen is there is perhaps a brief pause in playback (if any?) and then playback continues... numerous users are saying it's crashing |
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| [16:59:00] | drdaz: | whats interesting is that folks are saying that they had been using svn and only when they moved to the tagged revision did the issue start |
| [16:59:00] | xpis: | flithm: Send a detailed report of what happens in all cases to mythtv-dev@mythtv.org |
| [16:59:00] | flithm: | xpis, will do |
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| [17:04:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: You still there? |
| [17:04:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: LiveTV seems to be working even though a new show has come on |
| [17:05:00] | flindet_: | I didn't notice any pause |
| [17:05:00] | flindet_: | and it hasn't crashed yet |
| [17:05:00] | drdaz: | ok |
| [17:05:00] | drdaz: | thats cool.. |
| [17:05:00] | drdaz: | and the programme has changed according to the epg? |
| [17:07:00] | flindet_: | yeah, seems to be |
| [17:07:00] | drdaz: | hmm cool |
| [17:07:00] | drdaz: | might risk the upgrade then :) |
| [17:07:00] | flindet_: | epg, being the drop down that shows the title? |
| [17:07:00] | drdaz: | yeah |
| [17:08:00] | drdaz: | the schedule in myth basically |
| [17:08:00] | flindet_: | yeah, SEEMS to be working fine |
| [17:08:00] | drdaz: | ok |
| [17:08:00] | drdaz: | nice :) |
| [17:08:00] | flindet_: | i'm using atrpms on fc4 |
| [17:08:00] | drdaz: | ditto |
| [17:08:00] | flindet_: | i'm not use atrpms latest kernel, though. I'm using 2.6.13 |
| [17:08:00] | drdaz: | ahh ok |
| [17:08:00] | flindet_: | because of a problem with my remote control driver in the latest kernel |
| [17:08:00] | drdaz: | ok? |
| [17:08:00] | flindet_: | i doubt that would matter for livetv |
| [17:09:00] | flindet_: | but just so you know in case you do have problems. |
| [17:09:00] | flindet_: | the remote works flawlessly in 2.6.13, but not in 2.6.15 :-( |
| [17:09:00] | drdaz: | thats... odd |
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| [17:09:00] | flindet_: | yeah, well, I'm using a driver that a regular here wrote, and he's still on 2.6.12, so something may have changed that he hasn't had a chance to look at yet |
| [17:10:00] | flindet_: | so, I'm just sticking with 2.6.13. |
| [17:10:00] | drdaz: | ur using lirc? |
| [17:10:00] | flindet_: | again, I'm guessing 2.6.15 will be fine for you |
| [17:10:00] | xpis: | flindet_: are you using an ivtv device or a v4l device? |
| [17:10:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: No, I'm using the niveus remote. GreyFoxx modified the ati_remote driver to work with it. |
| [17:10:00] | flindet_: | xpis: ivtv |
| [17:10:00] | drdaz: | actually I'm stuck on .14 atm.. |
| [17:10:00] | xpis: | flindet_: and are you using fedora? |
| [17:11:00] | drdaz: | errors with alsa under .15 :-/ |
| [17:11:00] | flindet_: | xpis: I have a pvr350 and two pvr250s, but I'm using an nvidia card for playback because I couldn't get the pvr350 to play mame fullscreen |
| [17:11:00] | flindet_: | xpis: Yeah |
| [17:11:00] | xpis: | flindet_: figured so. |
| [17:11:00] | xpis: | flindet_: The first fedora .15 kernel was botched. yum update kernel |
| [17:11:00] | flindet_: | I'm not exactly a huge fan of fedora, to be honest, but a lot of documentation for myth on fedora exists, so I went with that |
| [17:12:00] | xpis: | flindet_: for the record, the first fedora .14 kernel was *also* botched. |
| [17:12:00] | flindet_: | xpis: Well, I experienced the problem just last night. Are you saying there's a new one since then? |
| [17:13:00] | xpis: | flindet_: if you want an easy mythtv experience, the best way is probably gentoo, debian, or ubuntu – as they have mythtv packages without botched dependencies. |
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| [17:13:00] | Pitchin_uk: | hi guys im having probs with my mythfilldatabase |
| [17:13:00] | xpis: | flindet_: What is the exact kernel you have installed? |
| [17:13:00] | flindet_: | xpis: hahah.. yeah, fedora quite frequently runs me through dependency hell! Maybe i'll try ubuntu |
| [17:14:00] | Pitchin_uk: | when it runs it adds the channels with their name as their callnumber |
| [17:14:00] | xpis: | flindet_: correction: atrpms runs you through dependency hell. |
| [17:14:00] | flindet_: | 2.6.13–1.1526_FC4 |
| [17:14:00] | xpis: | flindet_: What is your .15 version? |
| [17:14:00] | flindet_: | most of the time atrpms are fine, but every month or so it puts me through the endurance test |
| [17:14:00] | flindet_: | it makes me outraged |
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| [17:14:00] | flindet_: | i prefer mandriva, but they're mythtv support is a bit dodgy |
| [17:14:00] | yepee: | Hi all, i have installed on FC4 following the guide provided by winsonet.com and using WinTV500 |
| [17:15:00] | yepee: | having problem while i choose "watch tv" |
| [17:15:00] | flindet_: | the guy that packaged mythtv for mandriva is a bit slow and not particularly popular in mandriva circles |
| [17:15:00] | xpis: | flindet_: it's because the dependencies of atrpms packages are screwed up. It becomes even more screwed up if it trys to get packages from freshrpms. In that case, you end up with unsatisfied dependencies that keep you from updating things. |
| [17:15:00] | yepee: | i see nothing but just some grains... |
| [17:15:00] | xpis: | flindet_: you could always compile mythtv yourself. That's what all the developers do, as well as many users. |
| [17:16:00] | xpis: | flindet_: there aren't a whole lot of dependencies required to compile, so it's not that hard to do. |
| [17:16:00] | drdaz: | xpis: sorry to join in on the conversation here.. but I find satisfying the build dependencies of myth to be the biggest pain... is it a decent approach to use atrpms for that? |
| [17:16:00] | drdaz: | xpis: oops |
| [17:16:00] | drdaz: | lol |
| [17:16:00] | flindet_: | xpis: Yeah, I hear ya. I'm just sort of lazy to be honest. I like to use binaries if I can because I don't often have a lot of time |
| [17:16:00] | yepee: | can someone please help me.... i have all the time and i can wait for someone to answer m after they are done helping others... |
| [17:17:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: atrpms is fair. But they can be a pain in the ass from time to time |
| [17:17:00] | xpis: | drdaz: no, you shouldn't use atrpms for that. You can and should use fedora packages, though, to fill depedencies. |
| [17:17:00] | drdaz: | ahh kk |
| [17:17:00] | flindet_: | drdaz: I've not tried the other recommendations, but it might be worth exploring xpis suggestions. I may. |
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| [17:17:00] | xpis: | drdaz: make sure you install development packages, especially for qt. |
| [17:18:00] | xpis: | drdaz: and remove atrpms from your repository list before compiling... |
| [17:18:00] | drdaz: | flindet_: yeah... I find if I dont try and update all the time its not a problem.. |
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| [17:18:00] | drdaz: | xpis: ok |
| [17:18:00] | xpis: | drdaz: you'll need to remove mythtv-suite also. |
| [17:18:00] | flindet_: | yeah, i only upgrade if I know there's a significant security issue or if I'm seeing a problem with my myth |
| [17:19:00] | xpis: | flindet_: if you use svn, upgrading is as easy as one command. |
| [17:19:00] | drdaz: | flindet_: generally dependency issues in the repo get sorted after a while |
| [17:19:00] | flindet_: | wait a minute, though, I would have thought that svn was unstable |
| [17:19:00] | flindet_: | no? |
| [17:20:00] | flindet_: | oh, they must have a stable tag or something |
| [17:20:00] | xpis: | flindet_: yes, now svn is unstable. |
| [17:20:00] | xpis: | flindet_: it is best to use 0.19 until 0.20 gets closer and the trunk starts to tighten up. |
| [17:22:00] | Juski: | laga: you around? |
| [17:23:00] | Juski: | laga: no worries.. just worked out those support tickets were for moderator applications :) |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | Juski: more or lesst |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | Juski: oh, ok :) |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | yeh my german is that bad ;) |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | Juski: i already assigned them to me, didnt i? or are they fresh |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | erm.. |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | who knows.. I'll let you deal anyway |
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| [17:25:00] | laga: | Juski: heh |
| [17:25:00] | Juski: | oh btw laga: now fully functional in 0.19 & minimyth |
| [17:25:00] | Juski: | DTS & everything :-) |
| [17:25:00] | laga: | Juski: great :) did you update minimyth yourself? |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | hell no... downloaded minimyth-0.19beta2 |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | had to stuff some things into the cramfs rootfs though |
| [17:26:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | I can feel the lure of beers calling me out tonight |
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| [17:27:00] | laga: | heh. io got up at 3pm and i'm still too tired to go out ;) |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | jus hope I don't get a phone call when I'm getting drunk saying "help! mythtv..." |
| [17:28:00] | laga: | heh |
| [17:29:00] | jams: | Juski- you take mythtv support phone calls? |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | from ms juski, i suppose |
| [17:29:00] | jams: | heh |
| [17:30:00] | Juski: | yeh.. only from her |
| [17:30:00] | Juski: | never had to so far though |
| [17:30:00] | Juski: | only for the (D) box from hell |
| [17:31:00] | laga: | :> |
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| [17:34:00] | Juski: | hmm 15" lcd touchscreen monitor on ebay for £100.. pity the seller has so much negative feedback :-. |
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| [17:44:00] | rav3r: | trying to set up my ir blaster to control my cable box. i run rpm -qa lirc* and only lirc-0.8.0–55.rhfc4.at comes back. when i try to yum install the other parts, each comes back "nothing to do" |
| [17:45:00] | human39: | try- yum install lirc-kmdl-`uname -r` |
| [17:45:00] | human39: | yum install lirc-lib-devel |
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| [17:47:00] | rav3r: | yum install lirc-kmdl-`uname -r` — nothing to do |
| [17:47:00] | rav3r: | yum install lirc-lib-devel — nothing to do |
| [17:47:00] | rav3r: | :) |
| [17:47:00] | rav3r: | :( |
| [17:48:00] | human39: | hrm, I forget which repos you need |
| [17:48:00] | rav3r: | i did a search on the net for the packages, couldn't find any repos |
| [17:49:00] | xpis: | Is anyone successfully using nuv2avi? (is there a way to completely disable rtjpeg, without taking all relavent functions out?) |
| [17:49:00] | human39: | I have atrpms, livna and freshrpms |
| [17:49:00] | human39: | installed |
| [17:50:00] | stanton: | Hi, I'm trying to configure mythbackend to run automatically. It's currently not listed in chkconfig. /sbin/chkconfig --add mythbackend comes back with: |
| [17:50:00] | stanton: | error reading information on service mythbackend: No such file or directory |
| [17:50:00] | stanton: | I have to be missing something easy/obvious? |
| [17:51:00] | ** Freman laughs manicly ** | |
| [17:51:00] | Freman: | it all works |
| [17:51:00] | Freman: | 0.19 rox |
| [17:51:00] | ** human39 is installing 0.19 right now ** | |
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| [17:52:00] | xnor: | I choosed a incomplete theme so now i cant change theme, help! :) |
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| [17:53:00] | xnor: | Is there any way of choosing theme in a file or in the database? |
| [17:53:00] | Juski: | xnor: minimalist-wide? |
| [17:53:00] | xnor: | Juski yes |
| [17:53:00] | Juski: | use the page down key |
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| [17:54:00] | Juski: | then you can see the setup menu item onscreen |
| [17:54:00] | xnor: | oh! :) |
| [17:54:00] | Juski: | or use projectgrayhem – the wide theme with everything fitting onscreen |
| [17:54:00] | Juski: | www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem |
| [17:55:00] | jams: | shameless |
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| [17:55:00] | xnor: | Juski: thanks!, another question all text is so small i cant read it in the setup screens, can i cange it in a file or so? |
| [17:55:00] | Juski: | or... use Syth from erm... |
| [17:56:00] | Juski: | http://jmeyer.us/themes/ |
| [17:56:00] | jams: | that moved last night, now it's just http://jmeyer.us click on downloads |
| [17:56:00] | Juski: | jams: I was about to plug your themes.. just took a little while finding the link |
| [17:56:00] | rav3r: | human39 i added livna, but don't see instructions for adding freshrpms |
| [17:57:00] | Juski: | jams: all things being fair & stuff... I wouldn't force my theme on anybody ;) |
| [17:57:00] | jams: | heh |
| [17:57:00] | Juski: | we need more wide themes, people.. get cracking |
| [17:57:00] | jams: | doesn't bother me any |
| [17:57:00] | human39: | rav3r, here is my repo file: http://www.scottkriebel.com/mythtv/fc3/files/freshrpm.repo |
| [17:58:00] | Juski: | I'll let 0.19 settle in for a bit & do projectgrayhem2-wide |
| [17:58:00] | Juski: | and fix the original |
| [17:58:00] | human39: | rav3r, link fix: http://www.scottkriebel.com/mythtv/fc3/files/freshrpm.repo |
| [17:59:00] | jams: | at some point I should update midnight, but i'm hoping somebody else will submit the patch =) |
| [17:59:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [18:00:00] | jams: | highly doubt that will happen. |
| [18:00:00] | Juski: | yeh... make the people who add extra features update the themes |
| [18:00:00] | Juski: | not! |
| [18:00:00] | Juski: | jams: the extra schedulechange info? |
| [18:01:00] | jams: | that and mythflix |
| [18:01:00] | jams: | and finish the setup screens |
| [18:01:00] | Juski: | I've no idea how to go about mythflix – can't use netflix here |
| [18:01:00] | Juski: | have to get round to doing mythgame & mythphone properly too |
| [18:01:00] | jams: | the setup screens need graphics, without them you cant tell what the buttons do |
| [18:01:00] | Juski: | ack |
| [18:02:00] | rav3r: | human39 thanks, still getting 'nothing to do' |
| [18:02:00] | jams: | doubt I will touch mythphone |
| [18:02:00] | Juski: | been quite a while since any major work was done on some of the plugins |
| [18:03:00] | Juski: | though with the new UI looming it's gonna have to happen |
| [18:03:00] | jams: | yep |
| [18:03:00] | human39: | rav3r, not sure — if you wish, the HOWTO I've been working on is at: http://www.scottkriebel.com/mythtv/fc3/ — its for FC3, so you need to take that in consideration. Its a word in progress, so remember that also. |
| [18:03:00] | xnor: | How do i get bigger text in all screens? (i cant se the setup screens they are too small) |
| [18:04:00] | jams: | xnor make sure your running X at 100dpi |
| [18:04:00] | Juski: | xnor: any font size which is capable of being changed is set up in the appearance settings menus |
| [18:04:00] | xnor: | oh ill check |
| [18:04:00] | rav3r: | thanks, i was using http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php, but it's down now and i was using google's cache |
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| [18:06:00] | jams: | oh I am not allowing annoymous downloads, need to fix that |
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| [18:10:00] | Juski: | jams: what do you reckon to this? |
| [18:10:00] | xnor: | I have dvi out from my computer and that goes to my projectors hdmi input. I run X @ 1280x720 BUT i cant se a bit of the left and bottom of the picture, what can that be? |
| [18:10:00] | Juski: | http://www.juski.co.uk/images/mythfrontend2.png |
| [18:11:00] | nasa: | Has anyone else seen/noticed frontend lockups when navigating through the menus? Looking at top shows X using 99% of the cpu. |
| [18:11:00] | Juski: | nasa: what video card & driver are you using? |
| [18:12:00] | nasa: | I am using a ATI 8500DV and the ATI drivers |
| [18:12:00] | Juski: | so it's not nvidia's openglsync issue then |
| [18:13:00] | jams: | menu looks good, not a fan of that watermark |
| [18:13:00] | Juski: | going thru menus really shouldn't tax a CPU |
| [18:13:00] | Juski: | jams: watermarks are all gonna change anyway |
| [18:13:00] | ** nasa agrees with juski ** | |
| [18:14:00] | nasa: | Right now I am running neverball on that box to see if running a 3d app for a while causes a lock up (about 20 min now and no problems) |
| [18:15:00] | Juski: | jams: the big challenge is going to be properly skinning mythmusic to look like (ahem) a 'real' music player |
| [18:16:00] | Juski: | nasa: then it must be 2d acceleration causing the problem |
| [18:17:00] | Juski: | nasa: are any clues left in the xorg log? |
| [18:17:00] | nasa: | Juski: nada |
| [18:18:00] | Juski: | when it locks, is the machine still usable? like can you ssh into it? |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | 4 teeth less |
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| [18:19:00] | nasa: | Juski: yes, that's how I can tell how much cpu X is using |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | mmm, blood. |
| [18:19:00] | Juski: | nasa: should be possible to debug it then |
| [18:19:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: niiiice. |
| [18:20:00] | nasa: | Juski: I agree — I just not sure what to be looking for |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | it actually went pretty well... can't wait for the local to wear off... |
| [18:20:00] | Juski: | oh hell that'll make eating & drinking fun, Beirdo |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, no kidding |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | I feel suddenly less wise :) |
| [18:21:00] | Juski: | you've had the noob drug? |
| [18:21:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: You survived :) |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | got tylenol 3 for the pain |
| [18:21:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: the pain will get worse within 12 hours |
| [18:21:00] | Juski: | sounds ominous |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | and ibuprofen for pain and inflammation |
| [18:21:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: (I had 4 pulled also) |
| [18:21:00] | Juski: | yeh go on xpis give Beirdo something to look forward to why don't you |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, tonight will be miserable |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | tis OK, Juski |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | I'll be OK |
| [18:22:00] | Juski: | still, on that cocktail you won't be needing any visualisations ;) |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | right now I have a frozen corn icepack on one cheek :) |
| [18:23:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: Before the real pain sets in... is there something horribly wrong with the latest nuv2avi svn? (I get tons of warnings with RTjpeg) |
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| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I never quite finished it |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:23:00] | Juski: | it's that time of year again.. bathtime |
| [18:23:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: is there a way to nix rtjpeg altogether? |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | how Victorian of you, Juski |
| [18:23:00] | alainm: | whats the best distro to setup myth with? |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | xpis: grab the oooold version |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | 0.0.3 I think it was |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | will only work on x86 (not 64-bit) |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | maybe I'll make time to tweak it this week as I'll be mostly couch-bound |
| [18:24:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: Well, I use amd64.. and I'd rather compile for it – so is there any way to hack the svn? |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | not really :( |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | I was in the middle of overhauling it |
| [18:24:00] | xpis: | How about ifdef'ing all the RTjpeg code? |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | the MPEG4 won't work right either |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | massive sync issues I hadn't resolved yet |
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| [18:25:00] | xpis: | Even in 0.0.3? |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | which weren't really there in the OOLD one |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | nah, 0.0.3 should be OK |
| [18:25:00] | Freman: | all that's left to do is emerge mythweb and re-schedule all my recordings |
| [18:25:00] | xpis: | What's the latest svn version before all these bugs? |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | 0.0.3 |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | I think |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | it's been a while |
| [18:25:00] | xpis: | Is that what you use to convert nuv to avi? |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | I changed too much crap at once |
| [18:26:00] | xpis: | (or do you use mplayer) |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | I don't |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have much nuv at all, mostly MPEG2 |
| [18:26:00] | alainm: | anyone try on kubuntu? |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | from PVR250 |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | I have a bttv card for overflow recordings though |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | I'll try to work on nuv2avi over the next week |
| [18:27:00] | xpis: | I am doing it now with mplayer, but that results in messed up avi files. |
| [18:27:00] | xpis: | (I just make it copy audio and video streams verbatim) |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport works pretty well, but it reencodes |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | well nuv2avi just repackages too |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | and reencodes audio if necessary |
| [18:27:00] | xpis: | And that's what mplayer is doing. |
| [18:28:00] | xpis: | It just creats bad avi files. |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | not too surprising, the sync is a BITCH to get right |
| [18:29:00] | xpis: | no, the sync is fine. |
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| [18:29:00] | xpis: | I just have to play it back with mplayer -forceidx |
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| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | that's not bad |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | then reindex it with avidemux or something? |
| [18:29:00] | xpis: | I suppose.. |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | or ffmpeg? |
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| [18:30:00] | xpis: | (mplayer is just copying data, after all, not building indexes) |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, take your non-indexed avi and rewrite it with an index. should be tools for that out there |
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| [18:31:00] | xpis: | So, does the old nuv2avi version create properly synced files? |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | it did pretty well in my testing, yes |
| [18:32:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: btw, how was your prognosis? (some people have chronic tingling after having wisdom teeth removed if the teeth were too close to a major nerve) |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | the part you'll have issues with in compiling for amd64 will be the ffmpeg libs |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | well, the freezing is still wearing off |
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| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | the ffmpeg libs, I ran ./configure on athlon, and deleted ./configure after |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | which was stupid |
| [18:33:00] | nasa: | hmm... As soon as I stopped neverball — no more moving amongst the menus |
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| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | you can likely reconfigure that, and amd64 will behave mostly... The SVN repo should show you what else if anything I had to tweak |
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| [18:35:00] | xpis: | ok |
| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, or was it 0.0.2 that worked? |
| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, been a LONG time |
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| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | it was 0.0.2 |
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| [18:49:00] | Led-Hed: | is there a way to group games by name. example: all games starting with the letter "A" show up in the "A" category |
| [18:49:00] | xpis: | Well, mplayer seems to handle mythtv nupplevideo just fine. |
| [18:49:00] | Led-Hed: | I have 4000 games and it takes forever to get to the bottom of the list |
| [18:50:00] | xpis: | Does nuv2avi do it without requiring an index rebuild? |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | it creates an avi using ffmpeg libs, which (AFAIK) properly index |
| [18:52:00] | Led-Hed: | Beirdo, is there a place to submit feature requests for mythtv? |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | for mythtv? yes. wiki.mythtv.org has a page |
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| [18:53:00] | Led-Hed: | thanks |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
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| [19:06:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: well, good luck for the next 3 days. Keep stocked up on juices/etc. |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | that was the plan :) |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | thanks |
| [19:06:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: in a week, you should be able to eat things like meat again. |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, this is good for forced dieting anyways |
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| [19:20:00] | xpis: | btw... does anyone know why mythtv.info was left to expire? |
| [19:21:00] | xpis: | Now, someone either gets the joy of paying go daddy $70 to renew it, or have a domain squatter grab it and turn it into Ad Central. |
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| [19:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | because the content was moved to wiki.mythtv.org. |
| [19:22:00] | xpis: | Captain_Murdoch: mythtv.info could have redirected there. |
| [19:22:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | they talked about that, guess they decided not to or forgot. |
| [19:22:00] | human39: | 0.19 is looking in /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins, for my plugins, but the plugins installing in /lib/mythtv/plugins/ |
| [19:22:00] | xpis: | It ranks high in google searches, so it will be valuable once someone grabs it and turns it into "Mythtv.info. Your #1 source for Media Center, Gambling, and get-rich-quick scams" |
| [19:23:00] | human39: | I've just been moving the files, but I should probably do it right |
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| [19:24:00] | xpis: | Captain_Murdoch: unlike most registrars, once a domain passes its expiration date Go Daddy puts it up for auction. The owner must pay $70 to get it back. Most registrars allow penalty free renewal for 40 days. |
| [19:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok. |
| [19:26:00] | znoG: | anyone know how to split a .avi in 2 files? |
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| [19:27:00] | mocker: | http://linuxreviews.org/man/avisplit/ |
| [19:29:00] | Led-Hed: | is there a way to sort/group roms by the first letter of the game title in mythgame? |
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| [19:34:00] | human39: | where do you add game starters in myth 0.19? |
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| [19:36:00] | Ripp_: | hey! why can't I change fastforward/rewind jump amounts in .19? :/ |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | Ripp_: i *believe* the behaviour changed a little bit, check keys.txt to see if you are still using the right keys |
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| [19:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | go to the Playback Groups setup page and you can adjust the default values or create new sets of values for different groups like sports, movies, etc.. |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | (at least i experience that as well..) |
| [19:37:00] | Jasper: | i've installed a new videocard yesterday (geforce nx6200) and i'm trying to make it work with xvmc and mythtv...when i'm switching to live-tv the screen stays dark and i get an error msg about a color key that could not be set |
| [19:37:00] | Jasper: | xvattr isn't working either |
| [19:38:00] | Ripp_: | oooohhhh, that's why I couldn't find it, its moved to the groups setup |
| [19:38:00] | Ripp_: | thx, I was about ready to gouge my eyes out |
| [19:38:00] | Ripp_: | >_< |
| [19:39:00] | epictetus: | heya, so I got myth installed/working with firewire but there is a line of static on the top of the screen when i'm actually watching tv |
| [19:39:00] | epictetus: | maybe 2 lines |
| [19:39:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | also, Playback Groups are independent of Recording Groups. |
| [19:39:00] | epictetus: | (or some kind of garbage, not exactly static) |
| [19:39:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's not static, that's the VBI info, try adjusting your overscan settings |
| [19:39:00] | Ripp_: | common overscan artifact |
| [19:39:00] | Ripp_: | heh |
| [19:39:00] | epictetus: | ahh |
| [19:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's the closed-captioning, V-chip stuff, etc.. in the VBI |
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| [19:47:00] | sona_: | um how do I change audio stream in mythtv 0.19 ? |
| [19:47:00] | laga: | sona_: '+' |
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| [19:48:00] | sona_: | thanks, where do I find information about these shortcutkeys ? |
| [19:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | keys.txt or mythcontrols plugin |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | can anyone recommend a good, cheap remote for a mythtv box? |
| [19:53:00] | xpis: | laga: any universal remote |
| [19:53:00] | laga: | xpis: i was looking for something more suitable for a HTPC :) |
| [19:53:00] | bertboerland: | i like my philips microft mediacentre remote |
| [19:53:00] | phatmonkey: | I am compiling from the 0.19 tarball, and getting errors along the lines of "../libs/libavcodec/libmythavcodec-0.19.so: undefined reference to `XvMCLoadQMatrix'" |
| [19:54:00] | phatmonkey: | yes, media centre remote works nicely for me too |
| [19:54:00] | laga: | thanks, i'm gonna google that ;) |
| [19:54:00] | phatmonkey: | bit costly though (?40/$80 off ebay) |
| [19:54:00] | bertboerland: | cheap, long cable for receiver, standard and nice |
| [19:55:00] | bertboerland: | 17 euros + 10 for reiciever at local store |
| [19:55:00] | phatmonkey: | wow |
| [19:55:00] | bertboerland: | bout 33 dollars |
| [19:55:00] | phatmonkey: | any ideas about compilation problem? |
| [19:55:00] | laga: | not bad. :) thanks |
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| [19:55:00] | laga: | phatmonkey: tried a make distclean? and maybe a --disable-xvmc if you don't need? |
| [19:55:00] | bertboerland: | it is an oem though, so they are not allowed to sell it without windows |
| [19:56:00] | phatmonkey: | yeah, I tried without xvmc, one sec |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | bertboerland: they're no fun |
| [19:57:00] | bertboerland: | i didnt buy windows |
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| [20:01:00] | lp5: | hello, i'm having trouble with squelchy audio with mythtv using a wintv go card and a sis sound card.. has anyone had experience with this? |
| [20:01:00] | lp5: | i've consulted a ton of documents but can't seem to find the fix |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | lp5: squelchy? |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | bertboerland: does your remote have that ugly windows logo? |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | xris: updated the bot schema to make the lastseen and lastnotified also UNIX timestamps :) |
| [20:09:00] | xris: | cool |
| [20:09:00] | xris: | thx |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | makes life easier for the seen command which is now implemented |
| [20:09:00] | xris: | can you get me access to your machine so I can interact with the web stuff in a live environment? |
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| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | I'll have to think how to set that up ;) |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | ok |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | then I'll start poking at the web stuff |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | you have my key, so just let me know when you get something set up. |
| [20:10:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: does that old version of nuv2avi support saving of episode/title data in the avi file? |
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| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | I think I have the key still, yeah |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | xpis, no as there's no "standard" way of doing that |
| [20:11:00] | quantum_: | can anyone access gmail? |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | quantum_, yup |
| [20:11:00] | quantum_: | dang I just get server error when I try |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | if it says 'X10' on a remote, is it usually supported by lirc/linux then? |
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| [20:15:00] | xris: | laga: not necessarily |
| [20:15:00] | xris: | which remote is it? |
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| [20:16:00] | laga: | xris: umm, brand is 'medion'. i was just wondering if it was some kind of standard :) but i don't like that remote anyways |
| [20:16:00] | lp5: | xris: yes, squechy.. kindof a high pitched distortion |
| [20:17:00] | lp5: | it was worse when using the line out of the tv card to the line in of the soundcard |
| [20:17:00] | lp5: | i'm now using the bt87x driver to get sound |
| [20:18:00] | lp5: | some channels its really bad, others not as much |
| [20:18:00] | quitte: | lp5: im having trouble with exactly that. are you using the btaudio module? |
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| [20:19:00] | lp5: | i tried the btaudio prior to the bt87x |
| [20:19:00] | lp5: | it didn't work well for me |
| [20:19:00] | quitte: | lp5 snd-bt87x? |
| [20:19:00] | lp5: | sound quality was worse |
| [20:19:00] | lp5: | yes |
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| [20:20:00] | quitte: | lp5: does your bttv have a companion soundchip? |
| [20:20:00] | xris: | lp5: could just be a bad tuner card |
| [20:20:00] | lp5: | from what i understand, the snd-bt87x is for the newer conexant chips? |
| [20:20:00] | quitte: | lp5: could you show me what showed up in dmesg when you loaded it |
| [20:21:00] | quitte: | lp5: i think its just the alsa version of btaudio. but its so badly documented i cant figure out what it can and cannot do. |
| [20:21:00] | quitte: | so i need user experience |
| [20:21:00] | quitte: | well gotta go :( |
| [20:23:00] | Capt_Eye: | can anyone answer a dvd ripping question? |
| [20:23:00] | lp5: | meh |
| [20:25:00] | Capt_Eye: | when I go into the dvd menu and try to rip a dvd it tells me there is a problem with transcoding |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | Capt_Eye: is mtd running? |
| [20:29:00] | lp5: | anyone dealt with sound rate conversions? |
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| [20:31:00] | phatmonkey: | laga: that fixed that problem |
| [20:31:00] | phatmonkey: | but... |
| [20:32:00] | phatmonkey: | ben@media:~$ mythwelcome |
| [20:32:00] | phatmonkey: | mythwelcome: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.19.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| [20:32:00] | speakman: | hi folks! |
| [20:33:00] | phatmonkey: | that error with any myth app |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | phatmonkey, add /usr/local/lib into /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [20:33:00] | phatmonkey: | can't find those libs in /usr/lib/ |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | then ldconfig |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | phatmonkey: add /usr/local/lib/ to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig |
| [20:33:00] | phatmonkey: | oh okay |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | Beirdo: dammit ;) |
| [20:33:00] | phatmonkey: | hehe |
| [20:33:00] | phatmonkey: | thanks |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | beat ya |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [20:34:00] | speakman: | Where can I read more about using Xine as default DVD player? |
| [20:34:00] | Capt_Eye: | laga : what is mtd? |
| [20:34:00] | phatmonkey: | eerm |
| [20:34:00] | speakman: | I generally think it's very lacking for documentation for MythTV right now... |
| [20:34:00] | speakman: | Memory Technology Device |
| [20:34:00] | phatmonkey: | /etc/ld.so.conf doesn't exist, shall I create it? |
| [20:34:00] | Beirdo: | lacking? |
| [20:34:00] | Capt_Eye: | laga : I did just fire it off |
| [20:34:00] | speakman: | flash memory and stuff.. |
| [20:34:00] | speakman: | lacking, yes |
| [20:34:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, if there is none, you should just create it |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | speakman, Capt_Eye: myth transcoding demon. |
| [20:35:00] | Beirdo: | mtd in myth terms is myth transcode daeamon |
| [20:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:35:00] | Beirdo: | laga beat me this time |
| [20:35:00] | speakman: | I've been setting up MythTV under Debian Unstable for a couple of days, and most things I've figured out my self. |
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| [20:35:00] | speakman: | laga: ? |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | Beirdo: own3d!!111 ;) |
| [20:35:00] | speakman: | oh, MTD :P |
| [20:36:00] | phatmonkey: | wee, thanks everyone, working! |
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| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | oh, that reminds me... |
| [20:37:00] | speakman: | I currently tried mplayer, and that worked out great... But after removing mplayer, and installed xine, I can't get the DVD Playback to work... |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | take paperwork for blood test OUT of jacket |
| [20:37:00] | Dibblah: | Uhuh. You've reset your DVD player command? |
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| [20:37:00] | Dibblah: | xine -pfh %s |
| [20:37:00] | Dibblah: | works ... |
| [20:38:00] | Dibblah: | I think :) |
| [20:38:00] | marccd: | I am trying to set up a PVR 350 for tv out, and I get (EE) FBDEV(0): mapping of video memory failed while trying to start x, any idea? |
| [20:39:00] | speakman: | Where is the config file for MythVideo to be edited? |
| [20:39:00] | Dibblah: | It's not a config file. It's a setting in the database. |
| [20:39:00] | Dibblah: | And it's changed in the frontend settings for mythdvd. |
| [20:40:00] | marccd: | there ar eno config files |
| [20:40:00] | marccd: | all is stored in SQL |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | there is ONE config file |
| [20:40:00] | Dibblah: | Can't wait until Internal is up to Xine quality. :) |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | which says where to find the database |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | that's it |
| [20:41:00] | Dibblah: | ... Bookmarking is one thing I'd really like. |
| [20:42:00] | Dibblah: | marccd: http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID . . . 127.msg42099 |
| [20:43:00] | Dibblah: | Of course, using ivtvdrv is probably a better idea. |
| [20:43:00] | Dibblah: | Than the framebugger stuff. |
| [20:43:00] | marccd: | yeas I googled that, I removed vesa from my main fbv |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | framebugger ;) |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [20:43:00] | Dibblah: | Errr... That'll be framebuffer. |
| [20:43:00] | marccd: | I boot without fb at all. although the kernel has fb |
| [20:43:00] | marccd: | and I dont have ivtvdrv |
| [20:44:00] | Dibblah: | Keys are too close together :) |
| [20:44:00] | marccd: | X says it is not found |
| [20:44:00] | Dibblah: | Get ivtv 0.4, it's included, I think. |
| [20:44:00] | Dibblah: | + |
| [20:44:00] | marccd: | I have, let me check |
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| [20:45:00] | marccd: | I am using debian packages, that might be it |
| [20:46:00] | Dibblah: | marccd: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=XDriverHowTo |
| [20:46:00] | marccd: | I know how to set up my card, and Ive googled, besides that is way outdated |
| [20:47:00] | Dibblah: | ... Well. It's a wiki. |
| [20:47:00] | Chutt: | i need to make a list of issues with the internal dvd stuff |
| [20:47:00] | marccd: | fb out works, it is X that is giving me a pain because fbdev wont work, and ivtvdev/drv whatever is called is not there |
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| [20:47:00] | Dibblah: | So, you know what do do when you fix it for yourself. |
| [20:47:00] | Dibblah: | marccd... Have you... You know... Tried reading that page? |
| [20:47:00] | laga: | reading? *gasp* |
| [20:48:00] | marccd: | Dibblah: oh |
| [20:48:00] | Dibblah: | Yeah. Oh. |
| [20:49:00] | marccd: | its outdated anyways |
| [20:49:00] | marccd: | README.X11 in ivtv/utils gives the solution |
| [20:49:00] | marccd: | I hope |
| [20:49:00] | Dibblah: | Well, get with the wiki generation. |
| [20:50:00] | Dibblah: | Anyone got a regression-testing framework for Myth yet? ;) |
| [20:51:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: btw, 0.0.2 won't compile due to errors in libavcodec |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | that's what I told ya |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | libavcodec was configured for x86 |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | I just had the version # wrong |
| [20:52:00] | xpis: | So, if everything is configured for x86, why would it make a difference what platform I compile on? |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | as ffmpeg will configure for 64-bit or non-64bit |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | if I remember right |
| [20:54:00] | xpis: | Everything is pre-configured to use i386 |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | as I configured it on an Athlon |
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| [21:00:00] | marccd: | god the ivtv tv out drivers are a pain |
| [21:00:00] | Dibblah: | ... And a Virgin party isn't quite as entertaining as it sounds. |
| [21:01:00] | marccd: | Dibblah: did you get them working? |
| [21:01:00] | Dibblah: | I only have a 150. |
| [21:01:00] | marccd: | I mean fbdev wont work, ivtvdev wont compile, ivtv-fb for X doesnt even exist afaik |
| [21:01:00] | Dibblah: | And Gentoo – So I'm somewhat atypical. |
| [21:01:00] | marccd: | still the same driver, anyways |
| [21:01:00] | Dibblah: | Uhuh. For input. |
| [21:01:00] | marccd: | Dibblah: what driver do you use for X? |
| [21:01:00] | Dibblah: | The 150 / 250 / 500 don't have video out. |
| [21:01:00] | Dibblah: | nvidia. |
| [21:02:00] | marccd: | ah |
| [21:02:00] | marccd: | crap |
| [21:02:00] | macroexp: | i've never had any issues with tv-out on my 350... |
| [21:03:00] | marccd: | macroexp: what X driver do you use? |
| [21:03:00] | marccd: | maybe I should try vesa instead of fbdev |
| [21:03:00] | speakman: | Sorry for beeing away, what about that internal DVD-player, *how* can I set it as default? |
| [21:03:00] | speakman: | Manually editing MySQL-tables? |
| [21:04:00] | macroexp: | marccd, http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/xdriver/0.10.6/ivtvdev_drv.o.bz2 |
| [21:04:00] | marccd: | has problems with symbols here |
| [21:04:00] | macroexp: | what distro |
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| [21:05:00] | marccd: | debian, xorg |
| [21:05:00] | Dibblah: | You'll have to compile it yourself, probably. |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | hola j-rod |
| [21:05:00] | marccd: | yep, but it gives me an eerorr about imake.tmpl |
| [21:05:00] | j-rod: | hey Beirdo |
| [21:05:00] | macroexp: | hmm, worked fine for me on fedora rc2, just put ubuntu 5.04 on it and works there too |
| [21:06:00] | Dibblah: | Chutt: Way to go on request -> commit latency! |
| [21:06:00] | j-rod: | I've got a fun problem going on here... |
| [21:06:00] | macroexp: | what symbols is it complaining about |
| [21:06:00] | j-rod: | all of a sudden, I'm getting "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 26':" |
| [21:06:00] | j-rod: | all 0.19 stuff running on the same machine, and it worked yesterday. funky. |
| [21:06:00] | marccd: | Required symbol shadowSetup from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ivtvdev_drv.o is unresolved! |
| [21:06:00] | marccd: | and other ones |
| [21:07:00] | j-rod: | I'm thinking db problem... |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, did you try restarting the backend just to be sure? |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | and you sure you updated mythweb? |
| [21:08:00] | macroexp: | yeah i guess you'll probably need to recompile it, you'll need the source for whatever X you're running |
| [21:08:00] | macroexp: | i believe |
| [21:08:00] | j-rod: | yes, yes, yes, and yes. :) |
| [21:08:00] | marccd: | macroexp, Dibblah, using the vesafb driver works fine, but it starts X on my monitor, both using fb0 and fb1 |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [21:08:00] | marccd: | ivtvctl -K 1 outputs TV fine |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, j-rod :) |
| [21:09:00] | j-rod: | mysqlcheck says all the db stuff is fine... |
| [21:09:00] | j-rod: | hrm, probably has to do with the slave I connected... |
| [21:10:00] | j-rod: | master is pre-fc5, mysql 5, etc |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | could be yer slave, yes |
| [21:10:00] | j-rod: | everything worked perfectly until a bit ago, then I tried to slave in an fc4 box |
| [21:11:00] | macroexp: | marccd, could you dump your xorg.conf onto a pastebin? |
| [21:11:00] | j-rod: | mythtv-setup went fine, but mythfrontend on the fc4 box kept stalling w/proto errors (and yes, everything is running 0.19) |
| [21:12:00] | j-rod: | the fc4 box is out of the picture, but now the fc5 box is spitting out proto mismatches trying to connect to the local backend |
| [21:13:00] | marccd: | marccd: sure |
| [21:13:00] | j-rod: | wacky |
| [21:14:00] | Dibblah: | j-rod: In which case, everything isn't running 0.19, or your backend has fallen over in an entertaining way. |
| [21:14:00] | xnor: | I have dvi out from my computer and that goes to my projectors hdmi input. I run X @ 1280x720 BUT i cant se a bit of the left and top of the picture, what can that be? |
| [21:14:00] | j-rod: | time to just dump the db... (been playing with a new HD5000 and FusionHDTV 5 card) |
| [21:14:00] | xpis: | Beirdo: Does nuv2avi do anything more than use ffmpeg with the raw mpeg4 data? Does it save keyframes? |
| [21:14:00] | j-rod: | Dibblah, trust me, everything is definitely running 0.19, and it all worked last night. |
| [21:14:00] | Dibblah: | Well then, one of your backends has gone squirrelly. |
| [21:15:00] | speakman: | How can I generally change settings within MythTV? (like default media player) |
| [21:15:00] | j-rod: | time to drop the db... |
| [21:15:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, db caching? |
| [21:15:00] | j-rod: | I don't think so, I've bounced the db too |
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| [21:15:00] | marccd: | macroexp: http://pastebin.com/561666 right now it is vesa |
| [21:15:00] | psofa: | whats the standard mysql port? |
| [21:15:00] | marccd: | macroexp: since fbdev gives me crap about memory and ivtvdev wont compile |
| [21:16:00] | j-rod: | psofa, 3306 |
| [21:16:00] | j-rod: | or 'grep mysql /etc/services' |
| [21:16:00] | Dibblah: | marccd: Won't compile how? |
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| [21:19:00] | marccd: | Dibblah: as in http://pastebin.com/561672 |
| [21:20:00] | kormoc: | yum yum yum, fake thai iced cofee... |
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| [21:20:00] | Dibblah: | Okay... Did you read the bit about "you must have the x -dev headers installed"? |
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| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | yum... strawberry/banana puree. |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:21:00] | marccd: | Dibblah: I do, but I believe I have to have the whole fscking crappy 90 year old X source code |
| [21:21:00] | j-rod: | crap, I'm a moron, just killed all the channel updates I did from the last QAM scan |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | ooops |
| [21:21:00] | j-rod: | scan picks up 250+ "channels" on my cable feed |
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| [21:21:00] | kormoc: | hrm. |
| [21:22:00] | j-rod: | had it whittled down to the ~30 or so I gave a shit about |
| [21:22:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. Could well do :) |
| [21:22:00] | kormoc: | if j-rod is a moron, I think the world is in trouble... |
| [21:22:00] | j-rod: | ah well, I have the important stuff (like the mplexid and serviceid for most HD channels) saved |
| [21:22:00] | j-rod: | kormoc, :p |
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| [21:23:00] | j-rod: | atsc/qam channel scans still make next to no sense to me either |
| [21:23:00] | Dibblah: | Corollary: If something is idiot proof, the world will find a better idiot. |
| [21:23:00] | j-rod: | I'm told KIRODT is found on channel 86, service 0 |
| [21:23:00] | j-rod: | but the cable box connected to the same feed puts it on 107 |
| [21:24:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. Same as most other boxes. They rely on "private" listing / configuration data. |
| [21:24:00] | marccd: | anyways, I give up |
| [21:25:00] | macroexp: | marccd, my xorg.conf is up at http://pastebin.com/561675 |
| [21:25:00] | j-rod: | Out of the 250+ "channels", all of _two_ actually identify themselves (thank you KTWB and KCPQ) |
| [21:25:00] | macroexp: | i've no idea if it'll help |
| [21:26:00] | j-rod: | db dropped, recreated, now everything plays nice again |
| [21:27:00] | laga: | err, well. i'm running mythfrontend with the suid bit set. i'd like to start e.g. k3b and k9copy within mythtv, but they won't start ('kdelibs not designed to run with the suid bit set' or something like that. 'su mythtv -c /usr/bin/k3b' won't work either because su wants to be run from a terminal. does anyone have an idea how i could make it work? |
| [21:27:00] | marccd: | macroexp: thanks, but I cant get it to work, sorry, did you have to install the X sources to compile the ivtvdev driver? |
| [21:27:00] | j-rod: | it appears mixing mysql 4 and 5 pieces can hose up your db quite nicely |
| [21:27:00] | macroexp: | i didn't compile it, i just used the prebuilt one |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod, not too surprised :) |
| [21:28:00] | j-rod: | yeah, me neither |
| [21:28:00] | marccd: | macroexp: with xorg? |
| [21:28:00] | j-rod: | I figured it would not work sooner though. :) |
| [21:28:00] | macroexp: | yes |
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| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:29:00] | j-rod: | well, a bit more testing on my FC5 box, then I'll just move all of 'em up to FC5... :) |
| [21:29:00] | macroexp: | x.org 6.8.2 |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | FC0.5 ;) |
| [21:29:00] | macroexp: | what version are you running? (X -version) |
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| [21:29:00] | marccd: | macroexp: 6.9 |
| [21:30:00] | Dibblah: | Anyone putting a hand up to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/357/Test.txt |
| [21:31:00] | marccd: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . 50;list=ivtv that is what I get |
| [21:31:00] | j-rod: | blah |
| [21:31:00] | j-rod: | time to go rake rocks |
| [21:32:00] | j-rod: | (laying new gravel in the driveway, making the house look nicer to prep it for sale) |
| [21:32:00] | j-rod: | later all |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | have fun |
| [21:32:00] | j-rod: | LOADS... :( |
| [21:32:00] | marccd: | I doont have libshadow |
| [21:33:00] | macroexp: | that would be a problem |
| [21:33:00] | marccd: | ah tehre it is /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libshadowfb.so |
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| [21:34:00] | macroexp: | libshadowfb.a != libshadow.a |
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| [21:34:00] | human39: | is there a config file that you can change where themes and plugin are installed to? |
| [21:34:00] | macroexp: | u need libshadow.a |
| [21:35:00] | marccd: | human39: sql |
| [21:35:00] | marccd: | what provides libshadow.a? |
| [21:35:00] | marccd: | I cant find it on my sys |
| [21:35:00] | human39: | ok, because my themes and plugin are not viewed by myth after the upgrade |
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| [21:37:00] | marccd: | macroexp: can you dpkg -S $(locate libshadow.a) ? |
| [21:37:00] | jams: | nothing todo with sql, you specify during the build what the prefix is. |
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| [21:40:00] | jams: | Beirdo- you seem to have recovered well |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | the freezing is just wearing off now |
| [21:40:00] | jams: | local or did they put you out? |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | local |
| [21:41:00] | jams: | numbness gone? |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | my whole mouth was frozen pretty good |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | can feel it now |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | dull ache where the teeth were |
| [21:41:00] | jams: | the rightof my face was numb for 2 months and a full later its still not right |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | that won't last :) |
| [21:42:00] | jams: | full year later |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | I'm enjoying the reprieve |
| [21:42:00] | jams: | cool |
| [21:42:00] | jams: | glad it went ok for ya |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | it will hurt like hell in a couple hours. |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | gotta remember to pop another ibuprofen in about 1.5h |
| [21:42:00] | marccd: | anyways the ivtv tv out is impossible to work with it |
| [21:43:00] | jams: | well back to the party |
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| [21:44:00] | kormoc: | marccd, still looking for libshadow.a? |
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| [21:50:00] | jumpkick: | channel wiki is totally messed up |
| [21:51:00] | jumpkick: | SearchEngine::showResults". MySQL returned error "1016: Can't open file: 'searchindex.MYI'. (errno: 145) |
| [21:51:00] | jumpkick: | anyone here use a AGP nvidia 6200 gfx card.... thinking of buying one to use with myth |
| [21:52:00] | jumpkick: | looking for opinions, gotchas, etc... |
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| [21:53:00] | MikeyMan: | Good day, is anybody around? |
| [21:53:00] | jams: | jumpkick- should work fine |
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| [21:53:00] | marccd: | macroexp: still there? |
| [21:53:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
| [21:54:00] | jumpkick: | jams: good to hear |
| [21:54:00] | fir3st0rm: | xris: are you here? |
| [21:54:00] | MikeyMan: | Can anybody tell me where mythfrontend stores all of its configuration information? |
| [21:55:00] | jams: | MikeyMan- in the settings table of the database |
| [21:55:00] | marccd: | MikeyMan: sql |
| [21:55:00] | MikeyMan: | I just upgraded to .19 and mythfrontend starts up and pre-caches the theme info and then just sits there with a blank screen. |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, this show has a news flash about Hurricane Wilma |
| [21:55:00] | MikeyMan: | No menu at all |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | I should watch TV quicker |
| [21:55:00] | jams: | heh that is a little dated |
| [21:56:00] | MikeyMan: | jams and marccd, thanks. Is there a quick way to clear out all of that info and reset it? |
| [21:56:00] | jams: | delte from settings where hostname='yourhostname' or something pretty close to that |
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| [21:58:00] | jams: | or change the hostname of the frontend |
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| [21:58:00] | MikeyMan: | Hmm, will that wipe my backend settings too? Or just frontend? |
| [21:58:00] | human39: | hrm, can somebody tell me if there is anything I need to do after upgrading. I can only see two themes' |
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| [22:00:00] | jams: | MikeyMan- I suggest a backup of your db before you start |
| [22:00:00] | jams: | human39- install the themes in the correct location |
| [22:00:00] | human39: | jams, I have. |
| [22:00:00] | human39: | but they are only showing GANT and blue |
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| [22:01:00] | jams: | permission correct? |
| [22:02:00] | jams: | if you type which mythfrontend what comes back? |
| [22:03:00] | MikeyMan: | Hmm, is there a recommended version of qt which should be used with the .19 release? |
| [22:03:00] | kormoc: | marccd, still looking for libshadow.a? |
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| [22:04:00] | marccd: | kormoc: you making fun of me? |
| [22:04:00] | kormoc: | marccd, no... |
| [22:04:00] | kormoc: | welp, if you don't want help, whatever |
| [22:04:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [22:04:00] | marccd: | do you own a 350 and have video out workiing?= |
| [22:04:00] | jams: | howdy kormoc |
| [22:04:00] | kormoc: | hihi jams |
| [22:05:00] | MikeyMan: | OK, so I started mythfrontend with "-v all" and the output stops on "MSqlQuery: SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'Language' AND hostname = 'mythtv' ;" |
| [22:05:00] | marccd: | hello? kormoc |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | marccd, not at all, but I'm semi good at x stuff. |
| [22:05:00] | MikeyMan: | Any idea *why* it would just quit at that point? |
| [22:05:00] | marccd: | well I cant get the ivtvdev module to compile, I am downloading the X sources now to get the fscing 90 year old headers |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | marccd, which is why I can tell you about libshadow. |
| [22:05:00] | ** kormoc shrugs. ** | |
| [22:06:00] | marccd: | its pissing me off, I mean using vesa rather than ivtvdev or fbdev which doesnt work at all, I get X but on my monitor |
| [22:06:00] | marccd: | not on my tv out |
| [22:06:00] | marccd: | kormoc: I get unresolved symbols, and libshadow.a is nowhere to be found, I have libshadow.so though |
| [22:06:00] | marccd: | that is why I am compiling the ivtvdev driver |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you should have libshadow.la |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you see, there is no libshadow.a it's .la and it's a xorg module. |
| [22:07:00] | marccd: | kormoc: I dont have it |
| [22:08:00] | Reepicheep: | Is there a trick to getting my frontend to read gamelist.xml? |
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| [22:08:00] | Reepicheep: | I can't seem to get PC games to show up in the game list |
| [22:08:00] | marccd: | kormoc: any ideas? |
| [22:08:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you might want to figure out why libtool didn't generate it |
| [22:08:00] | marccd: | kormoc: how can I generate it manually? |
| [22:09:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you see, libshadow.la is just a librool library file, ascii text, generated form libshadow.so |
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| [22:09:00] | kormoc: | marccd, Generated by ltmain.sh – GNU libtool 1.5.6 |
| [22:10:00] | marccd: | kormoc: right |
| [22:10:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you see, it should be built during the compile |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | hey kormoc |
| [22:11:00] | kormoc: | hihi Cardoe |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | how's it going? |
| [22:11:00] | kormoc: | tis goin well, hows you been? |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | alright |
| [22:12:00] | MikeyMan: | Hey Cardoe thanks for the .19 ebuilds |
| [22:12:00] | Cardoe: | no prob |
| [22:12:00] | MikeyMan: | Seems my backend upgraded just fine, but my frontend doesn't want to play. |
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| [22:13:00] | marccd: | kormoc: anyways I want to compile the fscking ivtvxdriver |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you installed the xorg-dev stuff? |
| [22:14:00] | marccd: | kormoc: yes, but I am about to fucking beat somebody to death |
| [22:15:00] | kormoc: | marccd, I'd likely say, you got a foobar x package, as it really should have that |
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| [22:15:00] | human39: | ah, Im not sure if anybody else is having this issue, but the configure scripts are not picking up my path prefix when installing |
| [22:15:00] | marccd: | http://pastebin.com/561750 |
| [22:15:00] | marccd: | that is what I get |
| [22:15:00] | laga: | human39: mythplugins? |
| [22:15:00] | human39: | yes |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | human39: check the docs, you need some special magic, i believe |
| [22:16:00] | marccd: | now I have the missing .h files in the X source kormoc |
| [22:16:00] | Dibblah: | marccd: Those -I -s look very hardcoded... |
| [22:16:00] | kormoc: | marccd, they should be provided by the xorg-dev package |
| [22:17:00] | marccd: | Dibblah: if it works, i couldnt give a crap |
| [22:17:00] | marccd: | kormoc: debian doesnt provide them |
| [22:17:00] | kormoc: | marccd, I'll put it this way then, debian is broken. |
| [22:17:00] | MikeyMan: | OK, I did a "delete from settings where hostname = 'mythtv';" and then brought up mythfrontend again, but it still hangs with an empty screen. |
| [22:17:00] | marccd: | kormoc: its debian, anyways Ill copy the missing X file sto where? |
| [22:18:00] | MikeyMan: | It pre-caches the theme stuff and puts the default theme background up (filling the whole screen) and then does nothing after that. |
| [22:18:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you'll need to get the same version headers as the version of x you have, else you might have serrious problems. |
| [22:18:00] | MikeyMan: | The other thing that is odd at this point is that X seems to be completely locked up. |
| [22:19:00] | MikeyMan: | CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE won't kill it and the numlock key doesn't toggle the numlock LED on the keyboard. |
| [22:19:00] | MikeyMan: | However my ssh session from my other box still works and I can forcibly kill X. |
| [22:19:00] | MikeyMan: | Does anybody have any ideas? |
| [22:19:00] | marccd: | kormoc: yes.. where do I drop the .h file so this crap recognizes it |
| [22:20:00] | marccd: | kormoc: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ doesnt work |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | marccd, /usr/X11R6/include |
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| [22:24:00] | marccd: | anyways I give up |
| [22:24:00] | marccd: | this shit doesnt wokr |
| [22:24:00] | marccd: | fuck X |
| [22:26:00] | marccd: | piece of shit man, you would think this crap would work |
| [22:26:00] | marccd: | fuck the author of fbdev |
| [22:27:00] | marccd: | and his family too |
| [22:27:00] | marccd: | i am totally lost, fbdev wont work because of memory crap, which waas already allocated by ivtv-fbosd or whatever, vesa works but it doesnt dispaly anything on tv out |
| [22:28:00] | marccd: | and ivtvdev wont compile because x-dev in debian doesnt provide anything |
| [22:30:00] | marccd: | hello? |
| [22:31:00] | kormoc: | marccd, maybe it's time to try a different distro |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | your attitude sucks ;) |
| [22:31:00] | marccd: | no, I am pissed off |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | *shrug* |
| [22:31:00] | marccd: | ive been trying to fix this for hours |
| [22:31:00] | marccd: | kormoc: I want to know why I cant get X to start on my TV with vesa |
| [22:31:00] | marccd: | it starts on my monitor |
| [22:32:00] | kormoc: | marccd, different devices require and do different things. |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | marccd, you need to chill :) |
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| [22:32:00] | epictetus: | heya, my myth was working earlier then the machine got unplugged, now when backend is running and live tv starts i end up with: 2006-02–18 17:31:09.249 Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (select) |
| [22:32:00] | kormoc: | marccd, you are tring to take a rendered video stream, convert it to mpeg2 and output it. that's very different then outputing to a videocard |
| [22:33:00] | marccd: | ok, so how does fbdev does it then? |
| [22:33:00] | epictetus: | plugreport (the firewire connection viewing utility thing) seems to give very different info than it did before, also |
| [22:33:00] | marccd: | ivtv0-osd: framebuffer at 0xf9510000, mapped to 0xd1f10000, size 1665k |
| [22:34:00] | marccd: | yet (EE) FBDEV(0): mmap fbmem: Invalid argument (EE) FBDEV(0): mapping of video memory failed |
| [22:34:00] | kormoc: | marccd, frame buffering takes a memory address and throws data into it, allowing the videocard to do all the work, if it's not putting mpeg2 data to the 350, the 250 can't display it |
| [22:34:00] | kormoc: | *350 |
| [22:34:00] | marccd: | that is why there is the ivtv-fb driver |
| [22:34:00] | jd86: | my mythtv totally died now |
| [22:34:00] | jd86: | ugh |
| [22:35:00] | kormoc: | marccd, I'd still say you might get better results with a different distro |
| [22:35:00] | sandos: | uhm, why exactly does the distro matter? |
| [22:35:00] | marccd: | ditto |
| [22:35:00] | marccd: | people have it working on debian |
| [22:35:00] | marccd: | debian is one hell of a distribution |
| [22:35:00] | kormoc: | sandos, marccd's debian's install doesn't provide any x headers with the xorg-dev package, not allowing him to compile the driver. |
| [22:35:00] | marccd: | the problem here is clearly X |
| [22:36:00] | marccd: | because doing ivtctl -K 1, works |
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| [22:36:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [22:36:00] | jd86: | and theres no relevent errors :( |
| [22:36:00] | sandos: | I would download the source... (or something) |
| [22:37:00] | marccd: | kormoc: hold on |
| [22:37:00] | marccd: | I might be missing some packages, xlibs-dev, x-window.system-dev |
| [22:37:00] | kormoc: | sandos, if debian's packages don't provide the required stuff, it seems likely that it's gonna be more work then it's worth to compile X and all that stuff by haand |
| [22:42:00] | marccd: | anyways |
| [22:43:00] | marccd: | I think i better give up |
| [22:46:00] | MikeyMan: | Anybody have any ideas on why starting mythfrontend would lock up X solid? |
| [22:46:00] | MikeyMan: | I have tried re-compiling mythtv just to be sure the mythfrontend binary wasn't corrupted... |
| [22:46:00] | MikeyMan: | I've removed all plugins. |
| [22:49:00] | MikeyMan: | Hmm, mythtv-setup also causes a hard lockup. |
| [22:50:00] | marccd: | anyways kormoc you were righty |
| [22:50:00] | Anduin: | MikeyMan – video driver? |
| [22:50:00] | marccd: | debian doesnt package that shit |
| [22:51:00] | marccd: | now kormoc, id like to know why do people say to use FBDEV if it wont even work with tvout |
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| [22:51:00] | MikeyMan: | Doh – I could have sworn the backend was running fine, but in the backend log it says "No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP" |
| [22:51:00] | gnuyen: | I'm sorry, this is a simple question but how do you setup automatic transcoding with pvr-250s? |
| [22:51:00] | gnuyen: | I setup a transcoder profile |
| [22:52:00] | gnuyen: | if i hit 'x' while viewing a show it transcodes |
| [22:52:00] | gnuyen: | but i'd like it to automatically do it for me |
| [22:52:00] | MikeyMan: | Anduin: X seems to run fine, I can open up a terminal window and run mythfrontend from there, but as soon as it runs it locks up X solid. |
| [22:52:00] | MikeyMan: | I think I may have a backend problem though, and that may be while it locks up. I'm guessing it crashes the backend as soon as it tries to connect. |
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| [22:54:00] | MikeyMan: | gnuyen: There is a checkbox somewhere that says something like "automatically transcode" |
| [22:54:00] | scopeuk: | be prepared for some stupid questions later guys mr linux beginer (me in case your wondering) is making another (criminal) attempt at getting myth running |
| [22:54:00] | gnuyen: | MikeyMan, I can't find it in setup.. is it per show? |
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| [22:55:00] | MikeyMan: | gnuyen: No, I believe it is under Settings -> Recording Profiles |
| [22:56:00] | MikeyMan: | Under the default profile for MPEG2 I think is where you want it |
| [22:56:00] | marccd: | exit |
| [22:56:00] | marccd (n=marccd@ppp-69-229-49-127.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) Quit ("leaving") | |
| [22:56:00] | MikeyMan: | Or whatever profile you use for recording. |
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| [22:58:00] | MikeyMan: | Ah-hah. It helps when you run mythbackend manually from the command-prompt so that you can see if anything is going wrong. |
| [22:59:00] | MikeyMan: | Crud. I think I screwed my database. |
| [22:59:00] | MikeyMan: | ERROR: Unable to acquire database upgrade lock |
| [23:00:00] | MikeyMan: | Anybody know of a way to manually recover from this? |
| [23:01:00] | gnuyen: | MikeyMan, ahh thank you very much, I checked it |
| [23:01:00] | gnuyen: | now is there anyway to get all the mpeg2 shows to be put in a transcode queue? |
| [23:01:00] | gnuyen: | without going to each and hitting X? |
| [23:01:00] | MikeyMan: | gnuyen: I'm not aware of another way besides that. |
| [23:04:00] | MikeyMan: | gnuyen: Well if you know how the database backend works I suppose there is an sql query you could enter to do it, but I don't know what it would be. |
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| [23:08:00] | MikeyMan: | Sigh... I'm shooting myself in the foot. I restored a backup of my mysql data and forgot to change the permissions to mysql:mysql afterwards. |
| [23:08:00] | MikeyMan: | The permissions change fixed it. |
| [23:08:00] | i814u2: | ok, im trying to upgrade everything to .19, especially mythweb because of a few of the new features....however i get an error with mythweb about a database setup error. my files worked before, seem to be correct in settings (i read the mythweb readme, checked various config files)...is there something else to try? |
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| [23:09:00] | laga: | i814u2: did you read the *new* mythweb readme? |
| [23:09:00] | i814u2: | hmm |
| [23:09:00] | i814u2: | maybe not |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | you need to change stuff in .htaccess |
| [23:10:00] | i814u2: | actually what i read was foudn in a link from a log from this channel, (from a couple weeks ago) |
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| [23:10:00] | i814u2: | ill find the new one |
| [23:10:00] | i814u2: | thanks |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | np |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | hope it helps :) |
| [23:11:00] | i814u2: | me too, i've had the .htaccess working fine but ill asusme its new stuff that isnt in there right now. ill check the file and hope it works =)( |
| [23:11:00] | i814u2: | err =) |
| [23:11:00] | night-red: | i belive mine is setup properly but ot dpes npt ;load still |
| [23:12:00] | mchou: | anyone have any experience with usb to ide bridges like cypress, initio, etc.? |
| [23:12:00] | i814u2: | mchou – experience in what way? |
| [23:12:00] | i814u2: | i use a number of them for work daily...but not sure exactly what you are asking... |
| [23:12:00] | mchou: | i814u2: any usage experience :) |
| [23:13:00] | i814u2: | use cypress |
| [23:13:00] | i814u2: | ;P |
| [23:13:00] | mchou: | i814u2: is cypress pretty good? |
| [23:13:00] | i814u2: | cypress seems to be the best usb chip for that |
| [23:13:00] | gnuyen: | ig i'm running knoppmyth |
| [23:13:00] | gnuyen: | can i just apt-get upgrade to get a new myth? |
| [23:13:00] | mchou: | i814u2: which others have you tried? |
| [23:13:00] | i814u2: | also supports larger harddrives (some still have lba28 restrictions) |
| [23:14:00] | i814u2: | mchou – probably most out there. i work for a data recovery company and so i see a lot of varied equipment during the day |
| [23:14:00] | mchou: | i814u2: I bought a cheap usb enclosure that has cypress. lba48 |
| [23:14:00] | i814u2: | yeah cypress is good about that |
| [23:15:00] | i814u2: | one of the reasons i recommend it. as well as performance and what not. |
| [23:15:00] | mchou: | i814u2: ok, so a silly question. If the drive is formatted and partitioned (using normal ide), do I have to reformat after I pluging it in the usb-ide bridge? |
| [23:15:00] | i814u2: | nope |
| [23:16:00] | i814u2: | i do that all the time |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | i814u2: so the drive geometry is preserved? |
| [23:16:00] | i814u2: | that seperate of bridge |
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| [23:16:00] | i814u2: | yes |
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| [23:16:00] | mchou: | i814u2: yeah, but I cant do a hdarm -I on the bridge itself :( |
| [23:16:00] | bitbang: | hey guys, i'm trying to setup mythtv on fedora core, but it's crashing whenever i do modprobe ivtv-fb |
| [23:17:00] | mchou: | hdparm* |
| [23:17:00] | i814u2: | you can take a drive out of a system and plug it in to one of those bridges and image it and create an identical image to imaging it from the computer. so yes you see the same thing |
| [23:17:00] | bitbang: | i'm following the Myth(TV)ology guide |
| [23:17:00] | i814u2: | well no you cant use hdparm with the bridge |
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| [23:18:00] | mchou: | i814u2: you recommend any mobile racks enclosures with cypress? |
| [23:18:00] | mchou: | good^^ |
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| [23:18:00] | mchou: | i814u2: the enclosure I got seems to have good electronics but lousy mounting |
| [23:19:00] | bitbang: | anyone know how to fix this? |
| [23:19:00] | mchou: | i814u2: plastic pain in the ass. |
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| [23:19:00] | Jasper: | hmm anyone here got any idea why I can't xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY? |
| [23:21:00] | mchou: | i814u2: heh, but you guys probably just leave bare drives in the open :) |
| [23:21:00] | bitbang: | anyone here using hauppage wintv x50 cards know how to fix crash on modprobe ivtv-fb? |
| [23:21:00] | i814u2: | from what i know the hdparm wont work since its the usb interface |
| [23:21:00] | i814u2: | and the chip actually controls whether its using dma, etc. |
| [23:21:00] | i814u2: | which i believe the cypress does. |
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| [23:22:00] | mchou: | i814u2: I'm a bit concerned cause fdisk reports different too. |
| [23:22:00] | i814u2: | and yes we do leave drives in the open ;P |
| [23:22:00] | i814u2: | reports different how? |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | capacity is slightly different |
| [23:22:00] | briand: | bitbang: "crashes" how, exactly? Post your dmesg to pastebin |
| [23:23:00] | bitbang: | briand: how can i grab it, the machine literally crashes and i have to hard reboot |
| [23:23:00] | briand: | bitbang: which version of ivtv are you loading? |
| [23:24:00] | bitbang: | latest one from yum |
| [23:24:00] | bitbang: | ivtv-0.4.3 |
| [23:24:00] | bitbang: | -103.rhfc4.at |
| [23:25:00] | briand: | can you ssh or telnet into the box to look at dmesg? |
| [23:25:00] | mchou: | i814u2: the drive is 120GB. fdisk reports (w/usb) 120x10^9 bytes. On ide it reports 120x10^9+256000 bytes |
| [23:25:00] | bitbang: | briand: yeah i can try that, one sec i'll load the module and try sshing |
| [23:25:00] | briand: | ssh first. ;) |
| [23:25:00] | bitbang: | right, that's what i meant :) |
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| [23:27:00] | bitbang: | wtf, it's saying no route to host |
| [23:28:00] | bitbang: | oh i think i have firewall enabled or something |
| [23:29:00] | i814u2: | mchou – odd |
| [23:29:00] | Jasper: | anyhone here using a 6200 nvidia? |
| [23:29:00] | briand: | has anyone heard from Beirdo since he got back from surgery? |
| [23:29:00] | mchou: | i814u2: yeah. which is why I'm a bit leery |
| [23:30:00] | mchou: | briand: surgery for what? |
| [23:30:00] | bitbang: | ok, briand, here's the dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/561865 |
| [23:30:00] | bitbang: | im logged in through ssh now, local terminal is crashed |
| [23:31:00] | i814u2: | thats obviously a difference of the bios (the onboard ide chip) and the usb/ide chip...not sure if i'd be too worried tho |
| [23:31:00] | mchou: | i814u2: maybe. I do know that this drive has an HPA |
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| [23:32:00] | mchou: | i814u2: put on by the drive manufacturer..... |
| [23:32:00] | mchou: | my question is whether cypress "honors" HPA..... |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | i814u2: ^^ |
| [23:34:00] | briand: | bitbang: i don't see a crash there |
| [23:35:00] | briand: | hook your tv up to the pvr-350's TV-Out, and see if you see anything |
| [23:36:00] | bitbang: | nothing |
| [23:37:00] | briand: | bitbang: have you tried capturing some video (assuming you have signal connected to the 350 as well) and playing it? |
| [23:37:00] | bitbang: | yeah, that worked ok |
| [23:37:00] | briand: | okay, then... |
| [23:37:00] | bitbang: | wasn't tuned right, there was lots of static, but there was a picture |
| [23:37:00] | briand: | proceed thru the install |
| [23:38:00] | briand: | next, you need to set up X to display thru the pvr-350, now that the framebuffer is set up for it |
| [23:38:00] | briand: | then you'll see something. :) |
| [23:38:00] | bitbang: | wait, what, but how do i do that with this ivtv-fb crashing |
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| [23:38:00] | mchou: | bitbang: use ssh :) |
| [23:38:00] | briand: | but, after the point where ivtv-fb loads during boot, the local monitor shouldn't show anything further (looks like it's locked up, but it's not... it's displaying elsewhere (your tv) |
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| [23:39:00] | briand: | bitbang: where do you see ivtv-fb crashing? everything seems normal so far |
| [23:39:00] | bitbang: | no but i mean in xorg.conf |
| [23:39:00] | bitbang: | i do modprobe ivtv-fb in console |
| [23:39:00] | bitbang: | and it crashes |
| [23:39:00] | bitbang: | on lcd monitor vga is hooked up to |
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| [23:43:00] | briand: | bitbang: it doesn't seem as though anything is crashing on your machine, despite your thinking so... |
| [23:43:00] | briand: | ...from your ssh prompt, you can make the necessary edits to your xorg.conf file |
| [23:44:00] | briand: | (of course, you'll need to restart X to see them take effect...) |
| [23:44:00] | bitbang: | i can't seem to get X to work off the pvt350 now |
| [23:44:00] | bitbang: | it says no screens found |
| [23:44:00] | bitbang: | i use this xorg.conf file... |
| [23:44:00] | briand: | mchou: how're you doing today? |
| [23:44:00] | bitbang: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/xorg.conf-PVR350.txt |
| [23:45:00] | briand: | bitbang: hmm. seems like you maybe skipped a step or two in that tutorial |
| [23:45:00] | bitbang: | oh really, ok ill backtrack a bit |
| [23:45:00] | briand: | you may well need to edit a few things in the xorg.conf file to tailor it to your system |
| [23:46:00] | briand: | ...specifically, you might want to see what *your* framebuffer device is called, and where it's located... it may well be different than Jarod's machine. ;) |
| [23:46:00] | bitbang: | right, all i have is /dev/fb0 |
| [23:46:00] | bitbang: | that's why that's what i put in there |
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| [23:47:00] | bitbang: | and really, i dont have anything till i load up ivtv-fb, at which point i can't use X anymore |
| [23:47:00] | briand: | did you change anything based on the output of your lspci command? |
| [23:47:00] | bitbang: | the video card pci bus |
| [23:47:00] | bitbang: | changed to 01:08.0 |
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| [23:49:00] | briand: | bitbang: well.. re-read thru that section of the tutorial.. dmesg shows that ivtv-fb loaded fine, and set up a 720x480 screen. ...but your X session has no screen device... |
| [23:49:00] | bitbang: | ok, i'll go back through it |
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| [23:49:00] | briand: | chances are, they're not singing from the same page of the hymnal. :) |
| [23:49:00] | bitbang: | indeed |
| [23:49:00] | bitbang: | also, how do i get ivtv-fb to load at boot |
| [23:50:00] | bitbang: | putting /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb in /etc/modprobe.conf spits out errors |
| [23:50:00] | ** D4vid is away: Occupé ** | |
| [23:50:00] | briand: | bitbang: it's one of those things that seems trivially easy *after* you've done it... |
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| [23:50:00] | briand: | I seemed to have endless questions about it, and many doubts, when I was first setting my system up |
| [23:51:00] | briand: | bitbang: just go thru that tutorial bit, step-by-step... and it'll work. |
| [23:52:00] | briand: | don't skip over any steps, or do them out of order... be sure to read everything he says there... and just follow along. |
| [23:52:00] | bitbang: | ok, thanks |
| [23:53:00] | briand: | np |
| [23:53:00] | briand: | <-- is also on FC3, using a PVR-350 (and a PVR-500) ... so I've been thru what you're doing. |
| [23:54:00] | bitbang: | do you have any /sbin/modprobe lines in your /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [23:54:00] | briand: | sure, of course. |
| [23:54:00] | bitbang: | cause that's what's supposed to make it start at boot i take it, but it's just spitting out errors right now |
| [23:55:00] | briand: | well, that's half of it, yeah.... you'll probably also set up an initrd (mkinitrd-ivtv), but that's a bit later on in the tutorial, i think |
| [23:55:00] | bitbang: | oh ok |
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| [23:59:00] | Todd: | anyone have time for a question? I upgraded to .19 and now all I am getting from my card is static.. mythfrontend compains: RingBuf(/video/records/...) Invalid file (fd 18) X tries remaining |
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