| Friday, February 17th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | briand: | dev-: okay.. hmm... i don't see it pointing to /dev/lirc-anything.. just looking at /etc/sysconfig/lircd to grab any options (and that file has LIRCD_OPTIONS=<blank>) |
| [00:00:00] | TUplink: | well.. that like mplayer.. |
| [00:00:00] | TUplink: | didnt think that was a prog |
| [00:00:00] | TUplink: | im thick headed |
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | it's not, IMHO |
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | actually – the dependencies listing in the docs could do with some provisos |
| [00:01:00] | TUplink: | thats to much to read... |
| [00:01:00] | dev-: | briand: thats where you should put the device line, if its not explicity put in your init script |
| [00:01:00] | dev-: | id check the init script first though.. |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | turns out you need a wee bit more than qt & mysql... ;) |
| [00:01:00] | TUplink: | ill be glad when someone packages mythtv-suite |
| [00:02:00] | pac1: | cpu is pegged at 100% butthen mythfilldatabase is taking 38% |
| [00:02:00] | TUplink: | just a weeeeeeeeeeee bit |
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| [00:02:00] | dev-: | TUplink: too much to read? i think your should fdisk and reinstall windows xp then plzkthnxbye |
| [00:02:00] | briand: | dev-: 'k... so i add (after the =) --device=/dev/lirc0 ?? |
| [00:02:00] | TUplink: | on fedora if it says its missing just try " yum install <what is says">-devel" |
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| [00:03:00] | Juski: | I think I read & re-read every howto & readme for a fortnight before installing – went quite smoothly when I got round to the install |
| [00:03:00] | threat: | werd |
| [00:03:00] | dtm: | whirred |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | word? |
| [00:03:00] | dev-: | briand: if /dev/lirc0 is your device, then yup, but again id doublecheck the init script just to make sure its not being specified in there too |
| [00:03:00] | TUplink: | i hate winblows |
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| [00:03:00] | TUplink: | i figured it out this far... |
| [00:03:00] | TUplink: | i had 18 working |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | TUplink: must be bloody dark in your house without the lights on during the day then |
| [00:03:00] | TUplink: | i have 19 working.... just want the rest of it |
| [00:04:00] | Pitchin_uk: | evening juski |
| [00:04:00] | scottder: | anyone on FC4 do a successful upgrade using RPMs yet? |
| [00:04:00] | briand: | dev-: it's called in the init script with lircd and $LIRCD_OPTIONS (which is set in /etc/sysconfig/lircd) .. since it was blank, it loaded up with the default (ie: /dev/lirc), which didn't exist... lemme try changing that in /etc/sysconfig/lircd and we'll try it again. |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | evenin Pitchin_uk |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | scottder: I did in fc3 |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | can anybody help this guy out? http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . p;highlight= |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [00:05:00] | TUplink: | lircd is next ;) |
| [00:05:00] | dev-: | briand: cool, ls /dev/lirc* should show you the device if you dont know what it is |
| [00:05:00] | briand: | it is lirc0 now... i think it used to be /dev/lirc (which is why it used to work, and now it doesn't) |
| [00:05:00] | TUplink: | can i get an IR reciver and use my universal TV Remote? |
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| [00:06:00] | dev-: | briand: ahh, yeah, that'll do it. you upgraded lirc then? thats when my device changed too |
| [00:06:00] | Juski: | TUplink: depends what kind of IR receiver you get. LIRC serial receivers will work with just about any remote |
| [00:07:00] | briand: | yes, i upgraded it thinking that (for some reason) 0.7.1 wasn't working after the whole 'get rid of atrpms' bit we went thru the other night |
| [00:07:00] | quitte: | dan. i cant find the menu again to configure output sound devices |
| [00:07:00] | quitte: | err damn.(i really need a bunch of ne keyboards) |
| [00:08:00] | dev-: | output sound devicesa? setup->tvsettings->playback ? |
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| [00:09:00] | dev-: | oh its setup->general |
| [00:09:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [00:09:00] | Jasper: | juski? did the guy try to press R on the channel guide? |
| [00:09:00] | Pitchin_uk: | once i have update the database with the xmltv ids will my mythfilldatabse work?? |
| [00:09:00] | Jasper: | christ.. |
| [00:10:00] | Jasper: | I thought I was a n00b :P |
| [00:10:00] | pac1: | dev-, could this cause the prebuffering and jitter?audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 5408 need 6144 |
| [00:10:00] | pac1: | |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | god bless the noobs |
| [00:10:00] | quitte: | dev-: it's gone. nowhere in those menus any more |
| [00:10:00] | pac1: | Juski, some of us are not what we seem. |
| [00:10:00] | dev-: | quitte: setup->general , i actually just looked |
| [00:10:00] | dev-: | few screens in. |
| [00:11:00] | dev-: | pac1: yes, it can |
| [00:11:00] | quitte: | ah found it. was looking in tv settings->general |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper: | juski did you catch the part in irc where I said I bought a new video card....except for the fact it didn't have my tv-out on it 8) |
| [00:11:00] | quitte: | dev-: if i want to use alsa – what do i set mixer to? |
| [00:11:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – once i have update the database with the xmltv ids will my mythfilldatabse work?? |
| [00:11:00] | pac1: | dev-, Ok, I'll chase that down. |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | Jasper: oops! |
| [00:11:00] | dev-: | quitte: /dev/mixer |
| [00:11:00] | quitte: | dev-: doesnt work |
| [00:11:00] | dev-: | pac1: try enableing aggressive soundcard buffering and see if that helps |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper: | well juski when I opened the box it only had composite.. |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | I try to have a life rather than keep up with channel logs when I'm not here :-O |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper: | so gonna return it tomorrow |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:12:00] | dev-: | quitte: alsa configured correctly? hehe |
| [00:12:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: Sorry to bother you again, but the page says to use the card type "Digital Video Broadcast Card (DVB)", which doesn't exist in the list. Is this the same thing as DVB DTV capture card (v3.x), which I was using before? |
| [00:12:00] | Jasper: | it was like 20 mins ago ...so I thought you might had seen it |
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| [00:12:00] | Agrajag-: | JimBowen: you need to compile with --enable-dvb |
| [00:13:00] | JimBowen: | Agrajag: I did :/ |
| [00:13:00] | briand: | dev-: this is weird. after booting... no lircd service, and it still won't load |
| [00:13:00] | quitte: | dev-: alsamixer works – and mythaudio works |
| [00:13:00] | Agrajag-: | JimBowen: did you also specify the dvb headers? |
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| [00:13:00] | JimBowen: | Agrajag: No? |
| [00:13:00] | briand: | do I need to put "" around the --device=/dev/lirc0 ?? |
| [00:13:00] | Agrajag-: | JimBowen: ./configure --help |
| [00:13:00] | dev-: | quitte: actually i think by default its /dev/sound/mixer — i just have a symlink. if alsamixer works you have a mixer device, just have to find it. check /dev for 'mixer' it should be in there somewhere. maybe /dev/sound |
| [00:13:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski- what do you reckon?? |
| [00:13:00] | JimBowen: | Ok |
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| [00:14:00] | psofa: | im having some trouble.I set up a second remote frontend but i get prebuffering pauses during playback.It seems like fast farward with many skips |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | psofa, network fast enough? |
| [00:15:00] | psofa: | and i dont know how to test the damn network |
| [00:15:00] | dev-: | ftp some files back and forth |
| [00:15:00] | psofa: | its supposed to be fast but i want to make sure of it |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | ftp/scp/other_file_transfer_program |
| [00:15:00] | dev-: | 1big file, back and forth, preferably |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: yep to the DTV capture card doo-dah |
| [00:16:00] | dev-: | if your bitrate is 5500 for mpeg2 you need at least 6mbit throughput |
| [00:16:00] | psofa: | okay lemme check it |
| [00:16:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: once you have the xmltvids in the DB and your .xmltv file in .mythtv/ are set, mythfilldatabase _should_ work |
| [00:17:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: check that when you ran ./configure --enable-dvb that it did actually enable dvb ;-) |
| [00:17:00] | quitte: | great – now im getting a popping noise about every minute |
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| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | quitte, change the capture rate and/or turn down the capture volume |
| [00:18:00] | Juski: | bout time tuner cards had audio limiters on their inputs I think – some ac97 codecs have em |
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| [00:20:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – why do you think that it isnt working at the mo?? |
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| [00:20:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: Yes, before I used that it was saying: |
| [00:20:00] | JimBowen: | Error: DVB card configured on video device 0, |
| [00:20:00] | JimBowen: | but MythTV was not compiled with DVB support. |
| [00:20:00] | JimBowen: | Recompile MythTV with DVB support or remove the card |
| [00:20:00] | JimBowen: | from the configuration and restart MythTV. |
| [00:20:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: well, I have no idea. try popping the output of mythfilldatabase into a pastey bin & I'll take a squizz |
| [00:20:00] | JimBowen: | It no longwer says that |
| [00:21:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: mmmkay |
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| [00:21:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: if you've not got the linuxtv dvb utils, now would be a good time to get em |
| [00:21:00] | JimBowen: | The default location /usr/include _does_ contain linux/dvb/frontend.h |
| [00:22:00] | dev-: | darn i ate all my valentines day chocolate |
| [00:23:00] | briand: | this still has me puzzled. despite adding a "--device=/dev/lirc0" to the options line in /etc/sysconfig/lircd, lircd still doesn't load. running `service lircd start` does nothing. manually running `lircd --device=/dev/lirc0` loads up a (non-responsive) lircd |
| [00:23:00] | Juski: | it's not valentines day anyway – it's Clinton Cards day ;-) why only be uber romantic once a year? |
| [00:24:00] | dev-: | briand: have you looked at the init script yet to see why it might not be loading? |
| [00:24:00] | briand: | dev-: several times. |
| [00:24:00] | dev-: | if you put it in a pastebin i'll see if i can find out why |
| [00:24:00] | ** Serbitar fribbles ** | |
| [00:25:00] | briand: | 'k.. stand by a sec |
| [00:25:00] | jams: | anybody in here having trouble compiling svn mythmusic? |
| [00:25:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – http://pastebin.com/558710 it seems to pause on that channel itn bit?? |
| [00:25:00] | Juski: | shit – gonna have to ring t' hotel so I can stay at the LUGradio Live bash |
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| [00:26:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: right now post the .xmltv file |
| [00:26:00] | psofa: | 58.730 seconds (measured here), 11.18 Mbytes per second |
| [00:27:00] | psofa: | is that ok? |
| [00:27:00] | dev-: | thats 100mbit, yeah, you did it both ways and got the same speed? |
| [00:27:00] | jams: | This is the error i'm getting http://pastebin.com/558712 |
| [00:27:00] | psofa: | wait ill rcv now |
| [00:29:00] | psofa: | 66.475 seconds (measured here), 9.87 Mbytes per second |
| [00:29:00] | psofa: | so im ok i guess |
| [00:29:00] | briand: | dev-: http://pastebin.ca/41903 |
| [00:29:00] | dev-: | yup |
| [00:29:00] | Pitchin_uk: | what freeview.xmltv |
| [00:29:00] | jebel: | Hi everyone. Just updated to .19 and having some troubles. The Frontend says " Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:" The backend says "WriteStringList: Error, invalid string list." and "Unknown socket closing". |
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| [00:29:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: yup |
| [00:30:00] | dev-: | briand: do you have /etc/lircd.conf ? |
| [00:30:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Juski – here you go http://pastebin.com/558718 |
| [00:30:00] | briand: | dev-: a-ha. |
| [00:30:00] | JimBowen: | Ok, done everything on that webpage, though now mythtv-setup itself is complaining about that truncation. It says Card 5 is set to start on channel BBC O, which does not exist. |
| [00:30:00] | jebel: | I saw something on mythtv-users about making sure you have a real address and not 127.0.0.1... already checked that. Also I compiled lated SVN and have the same issues. :-/ |
| [00:31:00] | dev-: | check out lines 15,16,17 on the pastebin, those are tests |
| [00:31:00] | dev-: | if any of them fail it will exit |
| [00:31:00] | dev-: | -x are executables it looks for, -f are files |
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| [00:31:00] | dev-: | if any of those are missings, poof, exit, no start |
| [00:31:00] | JimBowen: | If I change it to BBC ONE in the input connections menu it just changes back |
| [00:31:00] | Juski: | JimBowen: slight discrepancy between the channels mythfilldatabase inserted & the channels you found |
| [00:32:00] | JimBowen: | Juski: Should I manually edit the database? |
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| [00:32:00] | Serbitar: | drop database and restarT? |
| [00:32:00] | dev-: | jebel: does your mythtv user in mysql have lock table grants? |
| [00:33:00] | briand: | hmm.. at least now it says "Starting infrared remote control daemon:" ... lemme go see if it's working |
| [00:34:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Juski – any ideas |
| [00:34:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: well for one thing your mythfilldatabase is doing itn.co.uk – and that xmltv file you gave me has no itn.co.uk in there |
| [00:35:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – is it worth dding that line in?? |
| [00:35:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – adding even |
| [00:35:00] | Juski: | so that tells me mythfilldatabase is using a different file |
| [00:36:00] | psofa: | NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [00:36:00] | psofa: | No useable audio output driver found. |
| [00:36:00] | psofa: | Don't disable OSS support unless you're not running on Linux. |
| [00:36:00] | psofa: | NVP: Disabling Audio, reason is: Unable to create AudioOutput. |
| [00:36:00] | psofa: | thats all the strange things im getting |
| [00:36:00] | Pitchin_uk: | in the mythfilldatabse is says about the tv grab???.conf |
| [00:36:00] | psofa: | and after that im all prebuffering pauses |
| [00:37:00] | psofa: | and ofcourse no sound.Ive got alsa up and running though |
| [00:37:00] | TUplink: | ok... whereis a list of dependcies? |
| [00:37:00] | dev-: | the docs. |
| [00:37:00] | TUplink: | yea.... what is find is about 4 things |
| [00:37:00] | dev-: | psofa: audio settings are right in settings->general ? |
| [00:37:00] | JimBowen: | Well I'm going to have to leave it here, or I'll miss my lecture tomorrow morning. Thankks Juski, Agrajag, Serbitar. I'll be back tomorrow no doubt. |
| [00:38:00] | briand: | dev-: yup. that was it. remote is working now. :) thanks for your help!! |
| [00:38:00] | dev-: | no prob |
| [00:38:00] | TUplink: | i cant get plugins to install transcode |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | np JimBowen |
| [00:38:00] | TUplink: | just instaled the newest one |
| [00:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – it says channel itn.co.uk (184) not seen on site at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 203. |
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| [00:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | you back in tomorrow night?? |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: it means it's not seen on the radiotimes site, that |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | tomorrow? maybe not |
| [00:39:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i have to shoot off to bed – i'll catch up with you and we will continue our discussion – thanks for the help |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | np |
| [00:39:00] | dev-: | juski is always here ;p |
| [00:40:00] | quitte_: | what'S the problem with snd-bt87x? btaudio used to detect the card just fine. |
| [00:40:00] | quitte_: | i hate alsa |
| [00:40:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – final thought could it be a prob with my grabber or is it more likely to be the file mythfilldatabase is pointing to?? |
| [00:40:00] | TUplink: | so how cani get transcode to be compiled in plugins |
| [00:40:00] | quitte_: | any idea what i should set id to? |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: first time it runs it can take quite a while – best leave it to do its stuff |
| [00:41:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok i'll leave it over night – does it matter if the backend service is running |
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| [00:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | arg is there anyway to auto login w/ vncviewer on windows? |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: backend has to be running iirc |
| [00:42:00] | dev-: | Yellow-Snow: wrong channel heh |
| [00:42:00] | Pitchin_uk: | iirc? |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | if I remember correctly |
| [00:43:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok cheers |
| [00:43:00] | Pitchin_uk: | night all |
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| [00:43:00] | dev-: | i think it can be off, its just updating mysql |
| [00:43:00] | psofa: | ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer |
| [00:43:00] | psofa: | but i have a /dev/mixer |
| [00:44:00] | psofa: | in audio output i put ALSA:default |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | oh lordy. since 0.19 came out there's been a sudden influx of daft questions on the forum... losing the will to stay awake now |
| [00:44:00] | briand: | hm. where would i find the init script for mythbackend (to put into /etc/init.d/mythbackend) ? |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | briand... the contrib directory |
| [00:44:00] | dev-: | it should be placed during install |
| [00:44:00] | dev-: | or there! :) |
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| [00:45:00] | Juski: | dev: isn't done when compiling from source on umbongo |
| [00:45:00] | dtm: | Juski: daft due to newbieism? or due to fundamentally new stuff? |
| [00:45:00] | quitte: | psofa: i changed it o not change mixer settings. dev/mixer is an oss device. asa doesnt know how to handle it – and i couldnt find out what alsa mixer names are |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | dtm: blatant, flagrant noobism... didn't RTFM-ism |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | mostly the latter |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | those posts will go unanswered I hope |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | answer them |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | with "banner RTFM" |
| [00:48:00] | quitte: | is thereweather data thats closer to me than aachen somehow? tübingen was nice. or böblingen. even stuttgart was better |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | heh... do unto others.. I remember the reply to my 1st post |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | so, just `cp etc.init.d.mythbackend.lsb /etc/init.d/mythbackend` ?? |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | quitte, ty |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | it works now |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | and the strange prebuffering pauses too |
| [00:49:00] | quitte: | psofa: great. doesnt work for me :( |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | hahaha |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | lol |
| [00:50:00] | psofa: | only thing now is that dvb-s channel switching is still too slow |
| [00:50:00] | squish102: | so is nuvexport not part of the base mythtv suite? |
| [00:50:00] | psofa: | compared to vdr |
| [00:50:00] | Juski: | vdr.. blah blah blah |
| [00:50:00] | squish102: | nor mythburn |
| [00:50:00] | Juski: | if vdr is so damn good... |
| [00:50:00] | psofa: | bcause i dont want to use both |
| [00:50:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [00:51:00] | psofa: | i use myth for everything else than tv |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | so get used to _not_ watching live tv |
| [00:51:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [00:51:00] | quitte: | actually vdr can do things that are really missing – especially recording several programs from one card |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | I stopped watching live a year ago & I don't miss it |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | all that is coming to mythtv |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | so :-P |
| [00:52:00] | psofa: | so theres nothing i can do to make channels changing faster? |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | psofa: nope |
| [00:52:00] | quitte: | Juski: im just allergic to those go use something else things on perfectly valid coplaints |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | quitte: looking forward to seeing your code |
| [00:52:00] | psofa: | so its a general myth problem and not only me? |
| [00:53:00] | jams: | psofa- how fast are your channel changes |
| [00:53:00] | psofa: | like crap |
| [00:53:00] | quitte: | psofa: i dont know. do you know a good app to help me put my dish back in decision so i can find out? |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | psofa: dvb has always been slow to change channels in mythtv – it's slightly faster in 0.19 now |
| [00:53:00] | jams: | mine are around 1 or 2 secs |
| [00:53:00] | psofa: | mine is around 6 seconds |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | card drivers have a role to play in that |
| [00:53:00] | briand: | quitte: put your dish back in decision?? what does that mean? |
| [00:54:00] | quitte: | ewrr position |
| [00:54:00] | quitte: | cant blame my keyboard fo that one |
| [00:54:00] | psofa: | Juski, yes but then how vdr does it in 2 secs? |
| [00:54:00] | briand: | got moved off point, did it? |
| [00:54:00] | Yellow-Snow: | GD contacts blow for computers |
| [00:54:00] | Juski: | psofa: different methods, obviously |
| [00:55:00] | psofa: | quitte, no idea. i placed the dish manualy |
| [00:55:00] | quitte: | briand: yes |
| [00:55:00] | Yellow-Snow: | anyone use vnc via web? |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | I'll stay out of this 'mythtv sucks ass.. vdr is great' shit |
| [00:55:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wtf vdr? |
| [00:55:00] | quitte: | psofa: how? you have to measure signal strength somehow |
| [00:55:00] | briand: | Juski: good call. :) |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | mythtv didn't get where it is today by people whining their asses off |
| [00:55:00] | psofa: | quitte, oh yes i forgot |
| [00:55:00] | psofa: | i have a regular reciever too |
| [00:55:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [00:55:00] | briand: | quitte: find or borrow a "birddog" |
| [00:55:00] | Yellow-Snow: | who is saying vdr is better? |
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| [00:56:00] | psofa: | im saying vdr changes channels faster |
| [00:56:00] | Juski: | certain features of mythtv could bear improvement, yes it's fair to say that |
| [00:56:00] | quitte: | briand: small boxes that beep? got one. but its for analog and doesnt give best results for digital |
| [00:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ok anything else that makes it better? |
| [00:56:00] | Juski: | well, a lot of the DVB stuff is being rewritten right now |
| [00:56:00] | psofa: | Yellow-Snow, there are other things too but im not allowed to speak about that |
| [00:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i personally dont watch live tv on my box |
| [00:56:00] | psofa: | ;) |
| [00:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | well im saying for myth.. u can already do so much and they are working on even more shit |
| [00:57:00] | Juski: | don't bite the hand that feeds is all I'm saying |
| [00:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ctrl via web and all |
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| [00:57:00] | psofa: | Juski, ffs what did i say? i just said that vdr changes channels faster |
| [00:57:00] | Juski: | you were whining |
| [00:57:00] | psofa: | im not whining |
| [00:58:00] | psofa: | im just asking what can i do |
| [00:58:00] | Juski: | you can't do anything to improve it |
| [00:58:00] | psofa: | ok then end of story |
| [00:58:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [00:58:00] | Juski: | unless you can code & you want to rewrite the dvb recorder class |
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| [00:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | arg this vnc via web is not working =\ |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | lets figure this out.. is vdr as fast to change channels all the time? I mean not just when you're changing to channels on the same multiplex/transport? |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | Yellow-Snow: I vnc in from work all the time |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | if you're going through a router you'll need to forward the port |
| [01:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | er juski |
| [01:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea i have it all set up.. 1 main vnc and 1 X vnc |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | right |
| [01:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im trying to do that via browser |
| [01:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i think i found it tho |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | ahhh never done that |
| [01:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | -httpdir /path/to/the/java/classes/dir |
| [01:03:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i guess add that to start up of vnc |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | java is stinky |
| [01:03:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea but |
| [01:03:00] | Yellow-Snow: | still nice if u r somewheres |
| [01:03:00] | Yellow-Snow: | and u dont have your jump drive.. tho i always have mine |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | true |
| [01:03:00] | psofa: | Juski, yes all the time |
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| [01:03:00] | Yellow-Snow: | java is powerfull tho eh? |
| [01:03:00] | Yellow-Snow: | u can do a lot w/ it |
| [01:04:00] | Yellow-Snow: | or is java universal |
| [01:04:00] | psofa: | when on the same transport it almost instant |
| [01:04:00] | scottder: | So, how is MythWeb in 0.19? |
| [01:04:00] | scottder: | the release notes say "overhauled" :) |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | psofa: maybe it's something the dvb dev guys could look into |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | scottder: install it after reading the readme & see for yourself.. it's nice |
| [01:04:00] | Yellow-Snow: | No matter how many times you try, Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A won't unlock her "bonus stage." |
| [01:05:00] | scottder: | Juski: just curious whats new...not doing my update till Sunday |
| [01:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im not doing it till knoppmyth comes out w/ it |
| [01:06:00] | Juski: | lots is new... new front page for one thing |
| [01:06:00] | Juski: | expanded features & stuff |
| [01:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im still waiting for sounds and better music management |
| [01:06:00] | Juski: | psofa: on your tuner how quick can tzap go between muxes? |
| [01:06:00] | scottder: | My wife was hooked on the web interface from the moment I showed her :) |
| [01:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | really? |
| [01:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | what theme? orginal style? |
| [01:08:00] | psofa: | Juski, im using szap and it needs 2 secs or sth |
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| [01:09:00] | psofa: | maybe the problem with myth is just the buffering it needs to show live tv ? |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | psofa: yeah maybe |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | just tried tzap here: maybe 0.5 sec to get a lock |
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| [01:10:00] | AngryElf: | So, all of a sudden without any modifications whatsoever myth is picking up a completely black screen without any sound on all channels.......is it possible the recorder is hosed? |
| [01:11:00] | Juski: | maybe it's because of the time it takes to get a lock PLUS the time the buffer adds.. and time it takes the SI parser to find the channel you want... |
| [01:11:00] | dtm: | AngryElf: try another playback app like mplayer |
| [01:11:00] | loop_: | Hey all... I am having problems getitng my SA3250HD to change to the right channels. Anyone have any similar issues? |
| [01:11:00] | Juski: | channel changes on my PVR150 are pretty swift even in 0.18 |
| [01:12:00] | Juski: | loop_: lots of users list activity on that subject |
| [01:12:00] | AngryElf: | dtm: black screen too |
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| [01:12:00] | dtm: | AngryElf: did you reload the drivers or possibly *gasp* heaven forbid, reboot? :[ |
| [01:12:00] | loop_: | thanks will check... |
| [01:12:00] | AngryElf: | yea i rebooted, but i do all the time |
| [01:12:00] | dtm: | "give a hoot; don't reboot" |
| [01:12:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [01:12:00] | dtm: | dont say that. |
| [01:12:00] | AngryElf: | i had it all set up to load up normally |
| [01:13:00] | Juski: | whatever happenned to striving for max uptime like a medal? |
| [01:14:00] | AngryElf: | vacuum on the same circuit breaker tripping the breaker |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | fire your electrician :) |
| [01:14:00] | AngryElf: | dev/video exists so that means the driver got loaded right? |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | or move to a country with proper electrical installation practices |
| [01:14:00] | AngryElf: | 50 year old house |
| [01:15:00] | AngryElf: | they didn't take into consideration 3 computers running in one roo |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | my house is like 100 years old but has plenty of outlets & cat5 everywhere |
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| [01:15:00] | AngryElf: | k, come fix mine |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [01:15:00] | psofa: | lol |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | AngryElf, I have like 9 computers and my TV on a 15A circuit, no issues here |
| [01:16:00] | psofa: | mine doesny have cat5 either |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | god how do you sleep at night with wiring that old? |
| [01:16:00] | TUplink: | ok guys i cant get transcoder enabled for the life of me... i instaled transcoder "yum install trannscoder" worked.... but ./configure --enable-all dose not work |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | TUplink: try transcoder-dev |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | you've now got the binary but not the source |
| [01:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. u know how u add that command to get vnc running at start up? /usr/bin/x11vnc -nap -wait 50 -p ect.. can i add a line to the end to run vncserver for my X display also? |
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| [01:18:00] | Juski: | add it to your .xinitrc file, I guess |
| [01:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm |
| [01:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | k |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | and X's vnc server is an X config issue |
| [01:18:00] | AngryElf: | sigh, so it's not the card, cat /dev/video0 produces a normal stream.......i'm not sure where to go from here |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | RTF X M ;) |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | well enough lurking.. bedtime. all this time I had insomnia & I never tried a certain linux podcast... |
| [01:19:00] | Juski (n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust7.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) Quit (""It's not just the music it's the BEAT"") | |
| [01:20:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lata! |
| [01:20:00] | TUplink: | no transcode devel |
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| [01:23:00] | TUplink: | Juski any other ideas? |
| [01:24:00] | pac1: | dev-, every 3 milliseconds, there'se one of these: |
| [01:24:00] | pac1: | MSqlQuery: INSERT INTO recordedmarkup (chanid, starttime, |
| [01:24:00] | pac1: | markl_, type, offset) VALUES ( '1006' , '2006-02–16T19:07:12' , '87' , 6 , '27709440 |
| [01:24:00] | pac1: | ' ); |
| [01:25:00] | pac1: | what's recorded markup for? |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | markups |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | like every keyframe, etc |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | so it can index the video for proper fast-forward, etc |
| [01:28:00] | Yellow-Snow: | guys.. say something is in the channel /usr/ how do u get there via ftp? \\Mythtv\root\usr? it dosent work |
| [01:28:00] | pac1: | right. why so many? |
| [01:28:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [01:28:00] | pac1: | like hundreds per second. |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | doubt it |
| [01:29:00] | Chutt: | try 2 a second. |
| [01:29:00] | TUplink: | Juski you got any ideas on how to get transcoder enabled?/ |
| [01:29:00] | Chutt: | well, on average |
| [01:29:00] | loop_: | I just checked for a record of my problem and have not found the same issue. Must be googling the wrong thing. My firewire channel change is going to the wrong channel. Any ideas? |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | at most, I could see 30 per second on NTSC, one per frame, but I'm pretty sure it's only on the keyframes |
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| [01:32:00] | pac1: | here's a log at http://pastebin.ca/41906 |
| [01:32:00] | pac1: | or part of one anyway. |
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| [01:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | someone needs to create an irc/aim/yahoo ect plugin |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | for what? |
| [01:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | why not? |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | run gaim |
| [01:35:00] | Kelerion: | oh yeah.. can just imagine chatting with my remote |
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| [01:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | er ok gaimprogram? |
| [01:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol true |
| [01:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm.. anyone know a linux program to chat on aim via web so i can use my phone? |
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| [01:36:00] | Kelerion: | huh? |
| [01:36:00] | Agrajag-: | licqweb lets you chat on web. doubt it'll work on any phones browser though |
| [01:36:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, http://aolmobile.aol.com/portal/index.do?rc=true |
| [01:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | agrajag i have full internet on my phone |
| [01:37:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. right |
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| [01:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i can use mythweb on my phone |
| [01:37:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, my phone came with AIM on it |
| [01:37:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, so did my last phone, which I got in 2000 |
| [01:37:00] | Agrajag-: | Yellow-Snow: does the browser to xml http requests? |
| [01:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | mines from overseas |
| [01:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i use opera as the broswer |
| [01:37:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, shouldn't matter if it's a new phone. |
| [01:37:00] | Agrajag-: | Yellow-Snow: anyway, http://whatsbeef.net/philip/licqweb is something i've written |
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| [01:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | kormoc it does |
| [01:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | they dont use aim over there |
| [01:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i have WAP but w/ opera i can get full internet |
| [01:38:00] | Agrajag-: | Yellow-Snow: not sure if it'll work in opera. probably not. needs to support multipart xml http requests |
| [01:38:00] | Kelerion: | hey kormoc.. thanks for the help yesterday with the xorg.conf |
| [01:38:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, np. didja get it working? |
| [01:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm agrajag is there a quick way to test? |
| [01:38:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, likely it's there, just not visable. what phone is it? |
| [01:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | w800i |
| [01:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its not there trust me |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | Agrajag-, if their mobile browser is like their nonmoble browser, it would |
| [01:39:00] | Agrajag-: | Yellow-Snow: no, no quick way to test |
| [01:39:00] | Kelerion: | nah.. gonna give it up and go back to windows.. this is about my 5th try and I just don't think it's do-able.. lol |
| [01:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i know my phone pretty well |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, what manafacturer? |
| [01:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | sony ericsson |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | it's there |
| [01:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? |
| [01:39:00] | Agrajag-: | kormoc: yeah.. but last time i checked only mozilla based browsers supported multipart xml http requests |
| [01:39:00] | Kelerion: | am sitting in front of a pc with 3 monitors.. and I can only use one.. lol |
| [01:39:00] | loop_: | can someone help me with getting my 3250hd to change channels via firewire (.19)? |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, you'll likely have to edit the seem files to enable it |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, do you have a data cable? |
| [01:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yup |
| [01:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i can install programs |
| [01:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | but every aim program i find is not free |
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| [01:40:00] | kormoc: | Agrajag-, opera does, least 8.51 does |
| [01:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | dude i read www.esato.com daily |
| [01:40:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, i guess i should try that one day then |
| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, okay, you'll need to download a seem editor for your phone. |
| [01:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm... |
| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, basically, you'll be rewriting a little bit of the rom on the phone |
| [01:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | where r u reading this? |
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| [01:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | and why have i never herd this after all my searching |
| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, I've done it with my phone, and I've unlocked friend's phones before |
| [01:41:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, I got to a point where I had *something* on all 3 monitors..which was a first.. 3 was fine.. 1 was clone of 3 but with lower res.. and 2 I couldn't even get my mouse to.. and then it'd freeze up after a minute or so |
| [01:42:00] | Kelerion: | want to see where I got with my xorg.conf? |
| [01:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | kelerion use ultramon |
| [01:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | it owns |
| [01:42:00] | Kelerion: | thats a windows app! |
| [01:42:00] | Kelerion: | and yeah.. I do use it |
| [01:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh |
| [01:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wine? |
| [01:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | =p |
| [01:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wait kormoc |
| [01:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | does your "secret aim" use txt messages or web |
| [01:43:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, it's a interface to aim via the text messanger, and has a buddy list screen |
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| [01:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yes i know.. friends have it.. but i think it uses txt messages |
| [01:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | and i dont have txt messages |
| [01:44:00] | loop_: | could someone help me trying to get my firewire cable box to change channels? |
| [01:44:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, hrm, that old of a phone eh? |
| [01:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | + this phone is not marketed in USA which means i really dont think its on there |
| [01:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | no its 2005.. 500$ |
| [01:44:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, http://pastebin.com/558835 |
| [01:44:00] | Kelerion: | thats as far as I got |
| [01:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 512 mb.. i have a dvd on it and ~100 songs |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, it's very likely there, as they all use the same rom images... so why no text messages? |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, I'll have to look at it when I get home. |
| [01:45:00] | Kelerion: | okies |
| [01:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | b/c actually kormoc |
| [01:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i have internet for 5.99.. i can send txt messages via aim |
| [01:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | all u do is add their number +1phonenumber |
| [01:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | so = free txt messages |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, http://www.aim.com/get_aim/express/aim_expr.adp?aolp= |
| [01:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | actually that dosent work |
| [01:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm let me try again tho now that i updated my broswer some time ago |
| [01:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thats java |
| [01:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont have java |
| [01:47:00] | Kelerion: | .adp? I love it when people make up their own extensions.. whats wrong with standards? |
| [01:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | n/m i do have java |
| [01:48:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont think my webbroswer has java |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, http://www.getjar.com/products/1296/IMMobileI . . . orJavaPhones |
| [01:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
| [01:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | those cost money |
| [01:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | Note: You can send/receive only 3 messages for each connection in the trial version. |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, trial version, for free |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | ooh, icky |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | that's under the free section too |
| [01:49:00] | buu: | Kelerion: Haha, there are no standards for extensions. |
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| [01:49:00] | buu: | Kelerion: And why on earth do you care what the webbrowser says? |
| [01:50:00] | buu: | Er, webserver |
| [01:50:00] | quitte_: | i just went out the window. dvb should work now. but scanning for channels doesnt seem to work :( |
| [01:50:00] | Kelerion: | there are generally-accepted extensions.. .html, .php, .asp etc |
| [01:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w800-pictures-1089.php |
| [01:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thats my phone |
| [01:51:00] | buu: | Kelerion: So? What does that have to do with a webserver? |
| [01:52:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, http://www.getjar.com/products/3425/j2mim |
| [01:52:00] | Kelerion: | I don't even recall *mentioning* a webserver |
| [01:52:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, http://www.jimm.org/ |
| [01:52:00] | Kelerion: | I *do* recall mentioning why people feel the need to make up their own extensions when there are perfectly reasonable extensions already |
| [01:52:00] | buu: | Kelerion: The extension was given by a webserver. |
| [01:53:00] | buu: | Kelerion: By extensions are meaningless? |
| [01:53:00] | buu: | s/by/because/ |
| [01:53:00] | buu: | For additional security? |
| [01:53:00] | buu: | So dumbass browsers don't do stupid things? |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | security? wats security have to do with it?? |
| [01:53:00] | quitte_: | how do i get channels configured for dvb? |
| [01:53:00] | buu: | Kelerion: It adds additional, slighty security through obscurity. |
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| [01:54:00] | Kelerion: | if a web admin is capable of making up extensions and making a webserver understand them – he's perfectly capable of making a secure webserver. |
| [01:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | Jimm is probably the most lightweight ICQ clone available |
| [01:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | not aim |
| [01:57:00] | kormoc: | kelerion, http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=adp&Search=Search |
| [01:57:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, AIM/ICQ merged, same network |
| [01:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm |
| [01:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh |
| [01:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | rlealy |
| [01:57:00] | Kelerion: | AOL Server Dynamic Page?? |
| [01:57:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, that's likely what your page was, aye |
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| [02:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | whats my UIN name? |
| [02:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | b/c it only allows numbers = |
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| [02:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | =\ |
| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, I know that from ICQ you can talk to aim, and aim to icq, you might need to get a number to log in tho |
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| [02:01:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh get icq name |
| [02:01:00] | ** kormoc heads home ** | |
| [02:01:00] | Kelerion: | is icq still as popular as it used to be? I haven't used it for years |
| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, nah, it's not |
| [02:01:00] | redline-: | need a suggestion here for 0.19 should I emerge it or build it manually |
| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | redline-, if you have to ask, emerge |
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| [02:02:00] | redline-: | have you emerged on a 64 bit system yet? |
| [02:02:00] | Kelerion: | I remember signing up to it and getting a number that was less than a million.. I felt privelidged.. lol |
| [02:02:00] | kormoc: | redline-, yes, I have |
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| [02:02:00] | redline-: | cool i will take your advice =) |
| [02:02:00] | redline-: | >>> Updating Portage cache: 85% |
| [02:03:00] | scottder: | Man ICQ is still around? |
| [02:03:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [02:03:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. apparently |
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| [02:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wow ripping dvd's takes ages |
| [02:06:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | with Myth? |
| [02:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
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| [02:06:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Isaac just checked in a fix for that. it was using 4K blocks, now uses 1MB blocks. |
| [02:06:00] | braddabug: | where is the mythfrontend config file? |
| [02:06:00] | Kelerion: | in the db |
| [02:07:00] | braddabug: | what if the db is remote? |
| [02:08:00] | braddabug: | i mean, the master database is storing the settings for its clients? |
| [02:08:00] | jams: | braddabug- yes |
| [02:08:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [02:09:00] | braddabug: | seems odd |
| [02:09:00] | Kelerion: | why? |
| [02:09:00] | braddabug: | why not store settings locally? |
| [02:09:00] | Kelerion: | so you can set defaults and you don't lose them on a re-install? |
| [02:10:00] | braddabug: | fair enough, but is there a way to override settings in the db? |
| [02:10:00] | Kelerion: | sure.. if you know sql well enough |
| [02:11:00] | Kelerion: | it's all in the `settings` table |
| [02:11:00] | braddabug: | i mean store the override settings locally on the client |
| [02:11:00] | braddabug: | not in the db |
| [02:11:00] | jams: | braddabug- nope |
| [02:11:00] | Kelerion: | nope |
| [02:11:00] | braddabug: | what if you wanted per client settings? |
| [02:12:00] | jams: | you have that, each frontend has it's own settings in the db |
| [02:12:00] | Kelerion: | everything is stored per-hostname |
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| [02:17:00] | loop: | I am having trouble changing channels on my SA 3250HD. Can record just fine but channel change goes to wrong channel. |
| [02:17:00] | loop: | I am of course trying to get firewire to work |
| [02:17:00] | jams: | loop others have reported that as well, I think the solution was to use an irblaster to change the channel. |
| [02:18:00] | jams: | there was a thread on the -user mailing list a few weeks ago. |
| [02:18:00] | Kelerion: | I know nothing about that box.. myth has internal changing for it doesn't it? or at least a script in the contrib/ directory? |
| [02:18:00] | loop: | jams: that used to be the problem but .19 seems to have the functionality |
| [02:18:00] | jams: | ah I have yet to try it =) |
| [02:19:00] | loop: | It sends change codes to the box but it isnt the channel indicated in the mythbackend output |
| [02:19:00] | jams: | I do have the firewire cables hooked up, just havent done it yet |
| [02:19:00] | loop: | 2006-02–16 21:06:49.116 FireWireChannel: channel:110 cmds: 0x487c67, 0x4313130, 0xff000000 |
| [02:19:00] | Kelerion: | are the channels different on a -HD box? |
| [02:19:00] | braddabug: | i can't get connecting to a remote backend to work... "ReadStringList timeout (quick)" and "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION" |
| [02:20:00] | loop: | but actually tunes to 9-something |
| [02:20:00] | loop: | not sure about the question. |
| [02:20:00] | jams: | braddabug- make sure mysql has networking enabled, and make sure your running the same version of myth on both boxes. |
| [02:21:00] | jams: | also make sure the permissions on the table are correct |
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| [02:21:00] | briand: | okay.. i've got a question about this "loss-less MPEG2 transcoding" — namely, where is it? in fact, where do I configure transcoding? am I missing something? |
| [02:22:00] | braddabug: | well, versions look the same |
| [02:22:00] | braddabug: | and i set the bind-address of the mysql server to it's actual network ip |
| [02:22:00] | Kelerion: | it doesn't take you long to get home huh kormoc ? |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, not at all |
| [02:23:00] | Kelerion: | I bet I can beat ya though.. I work from home :P |
| [02:23:00] | braddabug: | and i did grant all on mythconverg to 'mythtv'@'%' identified by 'mythtv' |
| [02:23:00] | jerky_3: | Captain_Murdoch, is that dvd-ripping fix related in any way to all the hard drive grinding my myth box does when it's playing a DVD ? :) |
| [02:23:00] | jerky_3: | when i try to play a DVD, i hear all this grinding and it goes pretty slowly. it's like it's recording the DVD even though i didn't tell it to |
| [02:23:00] | navreet: | does anyone use XBMCMythTV? |
| [02:23:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, hehe, I'm only a couple of miles :P |
| [02:24:00] | navreet: | what's the best way to use my xbox as a front end?? (I want to make as little modification to the xbox as possible... since it's my roommate's) |
| [02:24:00] | Kelerion: | if I had to work away from home – thats what I'd want to do.. just be a couple of miles |
| [02:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | jerky_3: I'm not sure, I think it was only for ripping. I just saw the -commits email fly by and saw him comment in IRC before he committed. |
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| [02:39:00] | squish102: | hi xris, are u a core developer for mythburn? would u think it can be installed on a FC4 box, as it looks like it is tied in to knoppmyth |
| [02:39:00] | xris: | nope |
| [02:39:00] | xris: | nope meaning that I'm not |
| [02:40:00] | squish102: | and mythburn is probably the most usefull plugin for mythtv |
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| [02:40:00] | squish102: | oh, i thought i saw you name around there, oh probably mythweb then |
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| [02:40:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [02:40:00] | xris: | and nuvexport |
| [02:41:00] | squish102: | ok, good work btw |
| [02:41:00] | ** squish102 goes off to see if he can screw up his machine trying to get mythburn installed ** | |
| [02:41:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, gonna call it a night.. if you get chance to look at that xorg.conf it'd be appreciated |
| [02:42:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, got a link again? |
| [02:42:00] | kormoc: | su |
| [02:43:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, http://pastebin.com/558835 |
| [02:43:00] | briand: | xris: in mythweb, i see where transcoding started for a job, but don't see the ending time.. is that normal? |
| [02:43:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, kk |
| [02:44:00] | Kelerion: | thanks again for the help |
| [02:44:00] | kormoc: | np |
| [02:44:00] | xris: | briand: where? |
| [02:44:00] | briand: | xris: in the backend logs |
| [02:44:00] | xris: | backend status comes straight from the backend. mythweb doesn't touch it other than display format |
| [02:45:00] | briand: | ah.. so there is no "log event" for when transcoding finishes, I guess. |
| [02:45:00] | briand: | i was just wondering how long it took, because by the time I came from the living room back to my computer room to check it (on backend status), it was already done. |
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| [02:51:00] | threat: | Is there any debian packages for mythtv? |
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| [02:53:00] | epictetus: | Hiya... i have some firewire questions (maybe i should try #firewire?).. just i have a brand new motorola dct6200 with 2 firewire plugs on it but when i run gscanbus (a firewire bus scanner thing) it tells me I'm not connected to any cable box, even though I am |
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| [02:53:00] | epictetus: | my firewire host shows up fine |
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| [02:53:00] | epictetus: | hmm. maybe i'll plug it into a windows box with firewire and see if it shows up as a DV/video source just for a quick test to see if the box is outputting anything |
| [02:54:00] | threat: | werd? |
| [02:55:00] | loop: | epictetus: what about plugreport? |
| [02:56:00] | epictetus: | it says 2 ports not connected to anything |
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| [02:57:00] | dansushi: | i installed mythtv, but I cant find the icon for it, and even if i type in the terminal 'mythtv'. Where would it be located? |
| [02:57:00] | jerky_3: | how did you install it? |
| [02:58:00] | jerky_3: | try typing mythtv-setup |
| [02:58:00] | loop: | epictetus: Does it show up after a fresh reboot and then disapear? |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | dant: You have to run mythtv-setup to configure the basics (tuner, video source etc), then run mythbackend which will control the tuner, and mythfrontend is the user gui menu/playback |
| [02:58:00] | dansushi: | jerky_3: urpmi |
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| [02:59:00] | dansushi: | [root@localhost dan]# mythtv-setup |
| [02:59:00] | dansushi: | bash: mythtv-setup: command not found |
| [02:59:00] | dansushi: | [root@localhost dan]# |
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| [03:00:00] | jerky_3: | sounds like it didn't get installed right |
| [03:00:00] | jerky_3: | as root do updatedb, then locate mythtv |
| [03:00:00] | dansushi: | ok |
| [03:01:00] | loop: | dans: try to do a rpm -qa | grep myth |
| [03:01:00] | loop: | or that :) |
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| [03:06:00] | dansushi: | i have these choices: mythtv |
| [03:06:00] | dansushi: | , mythtv-backend, |
| [03:06:00] | dansushi: | mythtv-frontend, |
| [03:06:00] | dansushi: | and mythtv-setup |
| [03:07:00] | dansushi: | jerky_3: which should i choose? |
| [03:07:00] | xpis: | Has anyone thought of having the backend do live transcoding in certain situations? (Say, instead of feeding high-def video to a thin frontend with a hauppauge pvr 350), or when the frontend is over a slow connection? |
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| [03:08:00] | dansushi: | i'm trying mythtv-setup |
| [03:08:00] | jerky_3: | that's what you want to start with |
| [03:08:00] | scottder: | xpis: don't have HD but it sounds cool :) |
| [03:08:00] | jerky_3: | it sounds like they are just not on your $PATH |
| [03:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | xpis: Thought about it sure, just never bothered to do anything about it :)( |
| [03:08:00] | jerky_3: | so add them to $PATH in your ~/.bash_profile or wherever |
| [03:08:00] | xpis: | With people putting such fast processors into their backends, it would really make sense. |
| [03:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Personally I'd want it, along with the ability for the backend to stream content listed under mythvideo |
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| [03:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Would be nice for transcoding xvid->mpeg2 on the fly |
| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I've never never spent more than a few minutes actually looking at it |
| [03:10:00] | xpis: | Which would be nice for the people with hardware mpeg2 decoders. |
| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | My MVP would happily take advantage of it :)( |
| [03:11:00] | xpis: | The only thing is that it could easily overload the CPU, especially for high-def content. |
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| [03:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have HDTV , so for me that's not a problem :) |
| [03:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I'd use it exclusively for a DIVX/XVID/Whatever->SDTV MPEG2 |
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| [03:13:00] | Hostile: | can anyone reccommend a tuner card for like 50 dollars that works in mythtv? I have a pretty hefty system, P4 2.8ghz 768mb ram |
| [03:14:00] | scottder: | PVR-150 can be had for round 60 |
| [03:14:00] | scottder: | If you shop around online... |
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| [03:15:00] | Hostile: | any others? |
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| [03:15:00] | Gumby`: | hrm, anyone had issues with 0.19 atrpms segfaulting? |
| [03:15:00] | squish102: | go pvr-150 |
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| [03:16:00] | squish102: | amazon has for around 60 |
| [03:16:00] | loop: | guby: did the update today w/no probs |
| [03:16:00] | Hostile: | is there ubuntu packages for mythtv? |
| [03:16:00] | xpis: | And of course we can thank MCE for making the PVR150 cheap. |
| [03:17:00] | squish102: | gumby did a fresh FC4 today with atrpms (testing) with no problems so far |
| [03:17:00] | Gumby`: | hrm, strange |
| [03:17:00] | xpis: | Gumby`: when does it segfault? Have you tried resetting the database? |
| [03:17:00] | loop: | whats it choking on? |
| [03:17:00] | Gumby`: | not sure |
| [03:17:00] | Gumby`: | 2006-02–16 19:14:49.275 _AddSamples bytes=4096, used=126977, free=641023, timecode=83105 |
| [03:17:00] | Gumby`: | 2006-02–16 19:14:49.282 Broadcasting free space avail |
| [03:17:00] | Gumby`: | 2006-02–16 19:14:49.283 audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 1568 need 4096 |
| [03:17:00] | Gumby`: | Segmentation fault |
| [03:17:00] | Gumby`: | but I have always had the soundcard messages |
| [03:17:00] | butabi: | hmm, is there a way to get the system time from the sat? |
| [03:18:00] | jerky_3: | Gumby, my mythfrontend segfaults every time i exit it manually |
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| [03:19:00] | loop: | anyone have experience with the SA 3250 and .19 release with changing channels? |
| [03:19:00] | loop: | via firewire of course |
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| [03:24:00] | jams: | loop http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/993 |
| [03:24:00] | jams: | sound like your problem? |
| [03:24:00] | butabi: | is there any way to get the time from the satellite? |
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| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | dvbdate |
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| [03:30:00] | jerky_3: | xpis, what's MCE? |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | or a very similarly named command |
| [03:31:00] | butabi: | thx |
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| [03:45:00] | xpis: | jerky_3: the PVR solution created by a large Washington company. |
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| [03:50:00] | DartmanX1: | question: is NUV the only format that can be recorded to? I want to burn shows straight to dvd, but the show didnt record in mpeg-2 format |
| [03:52:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://cgi.ebay.com/K-World-MPEG-4-TV-Tuner-V . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [03:52:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is that a framegrabber? |
| [03:52:00] | kormoc: | DartmanX1, if you get a hardware mpeg 2 encoder, it will encode to mpeg2 |
| [03:52:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, no, but no idea if it's supported |
| [03:53:00] | DartmanX1: | so it's a probalem with the TV Wonder card, then |
| [03:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | seems pretty badass eh? |
| [03:53:00] | kormoc: | DartmanX1, you can use nuvexport to convert the nuv files into other formats |
| [03:54:00] | DartmanX1: | Im trying that. When I tried to DVD, it said unknown format for DVD |
| [03:54:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: I'm using a Kworld Terminator. So yes, it would be supported. |
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| [03:54:00] | Sneezer: | hello! |
| [03:54:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: be warned that the driver may have bugs though, and require debugging and/or odd hacks to work. |
| [03:55:00] | xpis: | (saa7134 has problems on some kworld cards) |
| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | Sneezer, bless you. |
| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | xpis, what driver? |
| [03:55:00] | Sneezer: | kormoc, thankyou — but this is just my alt for achew22 (still a sneezing action) |
| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | Sneezer, hehe |
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| [03:55:00] | xpis: | DartmanX1: the TV Wonder is a framegrabber. It doesn't encode to anything. |
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| [03:55:00] | Sneezer: | I have a theme |
| [03:55:00] | xpis: | DartmanX1: mpeg2 software encoding support isn't (yet) supported in myth |
| [03:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is there an external encoder? |
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| [03:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | software encoding i hear owns the cpu |
| [03:56:00] | Sneezer is now known as achew22 | |
| [03:56:00] | xpis: | kormoc: for what? |
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| [03:56:00] | kormoc: | xpis, the K-World PVR 883 |
| [03:56:00] | achew22: | damn other computers wanting my name |
| [03:56:00] | kormoc: | achew22, you can steal it with /msg nickserv ghost nick password |
| [03:56:00] | jerky_3: | i'm trying to play back videos recorded in myth on a windows box... is that possible? |
| [03:57:00] | jerky_3: | i thought they were just regular MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 files, but i can't get them to play |
| [03:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yes |
| [03:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | myth windows front end |
| [03:57:00] | achew22: | kormoc, i know — I got it down. I used to run an IRC server... |
| [03:57:00] | kormoc: | jerky_3, depends on your card |
| [03:57:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, what myth frontend? |
| [03:57:00] | achew22: | winmyth? |
| [03:57:00] | jerky_3: | what format are the files recorded in? they say .mpg but they don't seem to be |
| [03:57:00] | achew22: | kormoc, are there other frontends? |
| [03:57:00] | kormoc: | achew22, winmyth has been unmaintained sense 0.17... |
| [03:57:00] | jerky_3: | i don't necessarily need the fancy UI and everything, i just wanted to play the actual recording |
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| [03:57:00] | xris: | jerky_3: dvb stream? |
| [03:57:00] | kormoc: | achew22, it's rather useless with myth .18+ |
| [03:57:00] | jerky_3: | yes |
| [03:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://winmyth.sourceforge.net/ |
| [03:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh im slow |
| [03:58:00] | xris: | jerky_3: they're transport streams instead of program streams |
| [03:58:00] | kormoc: | jerky_3, if they say mpg, they are mpeg2 |
| [03:58:00] | xpis: | kormoc: the card isn't listed explicitly in the driver. |
| [03:58:00] | xris: | they're normal mpeg2, but in a different package |
| [03:58:00] | xpis: | kormoc: I'd need to know the chipset. |
| [03:58:00] | achew22: | so I was talking to my programming friends and I was wondering why we don't just compile mythfrontend on windows. It's based on QT so shouldn't it be portable really easily? |
| [03:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/22565.jpg |
| [03:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is that a chipset? |
| [03:58:00] | kormoc: | xpis, CX23883–19 |
| [03:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
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| [03:59:00] | quitte: | achew22: and call it mythwin? hmm i guess i heard that name someday |
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| [03:59:00] | kormoc: | achew22, qt for windows only became free for qt 4.0+ |
| [03:59:00] | kormoc: | achew22, and myth doesn't support qt 4 |
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| [03:59:00] | achew22: | ohh... will it be upgraded to qt4 in the future? |
| [03:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | this Xpert-pvr sounds badass |
| [03:59:00] | kormoc: | achew22, last I knew, it's nontrivial, and isn't planned |
| [03:59:00] | quitte: | kormoc: uhm as qt3 is gpled and theres cygwin qt3 should be usable with windows |
| [03:59:00] | achew22: | Yellow-Snow, sounds hard to setup |
| [04:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm |
| [04:00:00] | achew22: | so... why not compile it? |
| [04:00:00] | xpis: | kormoc: it would use the cx88xx drive. |
| [04:00:00] | xpis: | s/drive/driver |
| [04:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | so its possible? |
| [04:00:00] | xpis: | / |
| [04:00:00] | kormoc: | quitte, sure, with cygwin, but not windows native, and window's qt is not gpl. |
| [04:00:00] | achew22: | kormoc, if I went through and compiled it for windows would I become a hero and everyone would throw a ticketrape parrade |
| [04:00:00] | kormoc: | achew22, likely |
| [04:00:00] | achew22: | I would do it if that were the case |
| [04:01:00] | achew22: | ooh since it is I'll ad it to my extremely long list of things to do this weekend |
| [04:01:00] | jams: | anybody in here using the internal dvd player? |
| [04:01:00] | DartmanX1: | okay, so if softwar empeg encoding isn't supported by myth, does that mean it's impossible for me to make a DVD of the tv shows I record? |
| [04:01:00] | xpis: | achew22: if you succeeded... and provided instructions... you would be a hero. |
| [04:01:00] | kormoc: | DartmanX1, no, you just need to get nuvexport working |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | DartmanX1: nuvexport |
| [04:02:00] | achew22: | I'll put up the donation page now... |
| [04:02:00] | DartmanX1: | okay, but the option for dvd in nuvexport didn't work. |
| [04:02:00] | achew22: | I actualy came here to ask xpis a question: do you remember how I was having issues with the NVidea drivers for my onboard card? Well I got that working and I was hoping that it's SVideo out would work without configuration, but it doesn't. So where should I look to fix that? |
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| [04:03:00] | xpis: | achew22: are you using the closed source drivers? |
| [04:03:00] | xpis: | achew22: (from nvidia) |
| [04:03:00] | achew22: | NVidea drivers not NV |
| [04:03:00] | xpis: | achew22: ok.. did you read the documentation NVidia provided? |
| [04:03:00] | achew22: | I reinstalled and it just worked — no documentation |
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| [04:04:00] | xpis: | achew22: Try X --configure |
| [04:04:00] | achew22: | alright... |
| [04:04:00] | xpis: | achew22: (this is a bit offtopic here.. but..) |
| [04:04:00] | achew22: | sorry, i'm kindof a spacey person |
| [04:05:00] | achew22: | wait... how is that off topic. most myth users want it on a TV? |
| [04:06:00] | DartmanX1: | nuvexport spit out "Unknown input or output format: dvd" |
| [04:06:00] | xpis: | achew22: wait.. there should be only one – before configure. The correct command is X -configure |
| [04:06:00] | quitte: | noone tries to port qt3 to win32? |
| [04:06:00] | kormoc: | quitte, yes, people have |
| [04:06:00] | Chutt: | trolltech? |
| [04:06:00] | xpis: | quitte: it is already done by trolltech. |
| [04:06:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, he means qt3's gpl version |
| [04:06:00] | achew22: | if I paid for the qt3 then compiled would it work easily? |
| [04:06:00] | xpis: | quitte: QT3 for windows is now GPL too. |
| [04:07:00] | achew22: | wait... where is the problem then? |
| [04:07:00] | kormoc: | xpis, you sure? I thought it was only 4.0+? |
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| [04:07:00] | xpis: | Maybe it is.. I'm not sure. |
| [04:07:00] | xpis: | achew22: what is the output of X -configure? |
| [04:07:00] | quitte: | xpis: great. so nothing prevents achew22 and his friend to make a win32 mythtv frontend? |
| [04:08:00] | achew22: | there is only one way to find out... by sending me a 5$ donation..... |
| [04:08:00] | xpis: | achew22: it should generate a file. Paste the entire thing into pastebin. |
| [04:08:00] | achew22: | xpis: what is the file called? |
| [04:08:00] | xpis: | achew22: it told you when you ran the command |
| [04:08:00] | xpis: | achew22: probably ~/xorg.conf.new |
| [04:08:00] | achew22: | xpis, nevermind it says fatal error: Unrecognized option: --configure |
| [04:09:00] | xpis: | It's -configure, not --configure |
| [04:09:00] | achew22: | xpis, two – same ting |
| [04:10:00] | achew22: | xpis, I'm on ubuntu does that change things? |
| [04:10:00] | xpis: | No, only one - |
| [04:10:00] | xpis: | not two -'s. |
| [04:10:00] | achew22: | ohh sorry |
| [04:10:00] | quitte: | achew22: in case qt didnt gpl the windows version: qtwin.sourceforge.net |
| [04:11:00] | achew22: | i'll try it this weekend... so I'll do my research before I start |
| [04:12:00] | achew22: | now the hardest part will be thinking of what to name this new abomination to the windows world. Winmyth is already taken unfortunately... |
| [04:12:00] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [04:12:00] | xpis: | achew22: how about windows frontend? |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | regular expressions++ |
| [04:13:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [04:13:00] | quitte: | achew22: i'D think about things like ignore the backend or work on that,too – and how to implement sound first |
| [04:13:00] | xpis: | achew22: And what was the output of X -configure |
| [04:13:00] | achew22: | I won't do the backend |
| [04:13:00] | achew22: | ohh xpis it said to turn off x |
| [04:13:00] | achew22: | which I regret to inform you will end my current irc session |
| [04:13:00] | xpis: | Then do so. |
| [04:13:00] | jerky_3: | do you guys know of any free mpeg2 TS codecs for win xp? |
| [04:13:00] | xpis: | You aren't using ircii? |
| [04:13:00] | achew22: | ircii? |
| [04:14:00] | achew22: | no i'm using X-Chat |
| [04:14:00] | scottder: | irssi? |
| [04:14:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [04:14:00] | xpis: | achew22: one of the original irc clients |
| [04:14:00] | achew22: | ohh |
| [04:14:00] | achew22: | what do u use? |
| [04:14:00] | xpis: | achew22: various |
| [04:14:00] | achew22: | ohh I have a question: on the pvr ir receivers do you point the remote at the glowing red thing or the other thing |
| [04:15:00] | briand: | the other thing |
| [04:15:00] | achew22: | damn... the red thing looks so cool |
| [04:15:00] | quitte: | merge them |
| [04:15:00] | achew22: | muahhaha |
| [04:15:00] | briand: | actually, i have no idea what you're talking about with "glowing red thing" |
| [04:15:00] | achew22: | were just full of bad ideas tonight arent we |
| [04:15:00] | achew22: | it glows... and its red... |
| [04:15:00] | xpis: | achew22: you should be able to run X -configure :1 |
| [04:15:00] | flyr: | xpis: is mythweb .19 a bit slower than .18? I appears this way to me, and more noticeably on a slower laptop. |
| [04:15:00] | xpis: | achew22: (without killing X) |
| [04:15:00] | quitte: | achew22: sounds lik a led to me |
| [04:16:00] | briand: | the pvr cards have a socket in the back. you plug the (provided) ir detector into that jack, and you point the remote at it |
| [04:16:00] | braddabug_: | is there a version of mythfrontend that runs on windows? |
| [04:16:00] | achew22: | ohh my god.. it made my tv freak out then it died |
| [04:16:00] | xpis: | flyr: not in my experience.. but a lot has changed since 0.18.x |
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| [04:16:00] | briand: | evenin', xpis. :) |
| [04:16:00] | achew22: | crap... xpis: it says "missing output drivers" |
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| [04:16:00] | achew22: | NOOO I LOVED YELLOW-SNOW |
| [04:16:00] | ** briand is happily running MythTV 0.19 now. ** | |
| [04:16:00] | achew22: | ohh wait he came back... |
| [04:17:00] | flyr: | xpis: ok, thanks. |
| [04:17:00] | Hostile: | anyone have a wintv-150 they wanna sell? |
| [04:17:00] | quitte: | Hostile: arlt.de sells them for 59¤ |
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| [04:17:00] | xpis: | achew22: I guess you'll have to do it without X running |
| [04:17:00] | achew22: | this sounds like a silly question... but I apt-get'd my origional mythtv install... then I compiled my own from .19 how do you tell what version your running? |
| [04:17:00] | briand: | Hostile: newegg.com and amazon.com both have 'em |
| [04:17:00] | achew22: | xpis, that is sad.... |
| [04:18:00] | Hostile: | Yeah thats where I think I'm going to get one, just wondering if anyone is trying to sell one |
| [04:18:00] | xpis: | achew22: first, try it from a console |
| [04:18:00] | briand: | achew22: mythbackend --version and mythfrontend --version |
| [04:18:00] | achew22: | Hostile, I'll make you the offer I make everyone else. I'll sell you a 150 for 299.99$ usd you pay shipping |
| [04:18:00] | xpis: | achew22: a real console, without X controlling the screen |
| [04:18:00] | quitte: | achew22: ypu didnt per cance make debs from 0.19? |
| [04:18:00] | achew22: | okay... i'll setup openssh |
| [04:19:00] | xpis: | achew22: hit ctrl+alt+F1 and do X -configure :1 |
| [04:19:00] | Hostile: | achew22: lol what a deal |
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| [04:19:00] | xpis: | achew22: do you take checks from Nigeria? |
| [04:19:00] | quitte: | muaha |
| [04:20:00] | quitte: | i have that friends that needs someone that helps him with hi multi million dollr transfer .... |
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| [04:21:00] | ** xpis hopes achew22 knows how to get back to his graphical console ** | |
| [04:22:00] | quitte: | wtf is a graphical cnsole? |
| [04:22:00] | xpis: | X |
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| [04:22:00] | braddabug_: | how do you run something in a console and make it not stop running when you close the console window? |
| [04:22:00] | bagleabuse: | quitte its a newfangled invention that ruins the old style computer |
| [04:22:00] | quitte: | not in my experience. i wouldnt even fbgetty consider to be one |
| [04:22:00] | Yellow-Snow: | just type the command |
| [04:22:00] | xpis: | trail it with & |
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| [04:23:00] | xpis: | example: daemon& |
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| [04:23:00] | quitte: | and disown it |
| [04:23:00] | braddabug_: | thanks |
| [04:23:00] | xpis: | achew22: you didn't know how to get back from a console? |
| [04:23:00] | quitte: | daemon&disown |
| [04:23:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i wish u could rip dvd's and still use mythtv |
| [04:23:00] | achew22: | nope i'm stupid |
| [04:23:00] | xpis: | achew22: ctrl+alt+F7, most likely |
| [04:23:00] | jams: | Yellow-Snow- you can |
| [04:23:00] | Yellow-Snow: | how the screen is taken up |
| [04:24:00] | achew22: | I only kindof wish that I had known that |
| [04:24:00] | Anduin: | Yellow-Snow – You can exit and come back |
| [04:24:00] | xpis: | achew22: btw.. regarding your PVR150.. do you take checks from Nigeria? |
| [04:24:00] | achew22: | now I'm sitting in a chair with good music |
| [04:24:00] | achew22: | xpis: as long as my bank does then I'm cool |
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| [04:24:00] | achew22: | as opposed to laying on the hardwood floor in silence |
| [04:24:00] | Yellow-Snow: | does it continue while i exited? |
| [04:24:00] | quitte: | all kinds of weird hw and sw are discussed here. do you have an url for that "chair with music"? |
| [04:24:00] | Anduin: | Yellow-Snow – try it |
| [04:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im scared |
| [04:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | last time i did |
| [04:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | it created 15 files in cdrom |
| [04:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | that was soooo hard to delete |
| [04:25:00] | AlienBaby: | to Preempt or to not Preempt |
| [04:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ill try it next dvd |
| [04:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | this one is almost done |
| [04:26:00] | xpis: | achew22: so.. what file did it generate? |
| [04:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | why dont they have dvd rip volume? |
| [04:26:00] | Anduin: | Yellow-Snow – mtd does the ripping, entirely different process. |
| [04:26:00] | quitte: | Yellow-Snow: because you dont want to reencode digital data |
| [04:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ah ok |
| [04:27:00] | achew22: | okay xpis so where were we |
| [04:27:00] | xpis: | achew22: putting the file it generated on pastebin |
| [04:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i think u were unzipping your pants |
| [04:27:00] | xpis: | achew22: you can also e-mail it or otherwise upload it to me. |
| [04:28:00] | achew22: | http://pastebin.com/559003 |
| [04:28:00] | achew22: | its cool xpis, pastebin is good enough |
| [04:29:00] | xpis: | achew22: did it give you that error in the console as well? |
| [04:29:00] | achew22: | yeah |
| [04:29:00] | achew22: | thats from console |
| [04:29:00] | achew22: | would you like to see nano for that file |
| [04:29:00] | xpis: | It did that when you did CTRL+ALT+F1 as well? |
| [04:29:00] | achew22: | yes |
| [04:30:00] | xpis: | ok.. scrap that.. just send me your xorg.conf. (/etc/X11) |
| [04:30:00] | xpis: | nvidia must not like X -configure. |
| [04:30:00] | xpis: | Put it on pastebin, or send it to me directly. |
| [04:32:00] | achew22: | http://pastebin.com/559006 |
| [04:32:00] | achew22: | there is some overlap |
| [04:33:00] | xpis: | ok, that wasn't generated properly. |
| [04:33:00] | xpis: | You'll need to read the nvidia driver options out of the configuration file and apply them to the file. |
| [04:33:00] | xpis: | Either that, or ask in #nvidia with someone familiar with the machanics of the nvidia driver. |
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| [04:34:00] | achew22: | okey day... |
| [04:34:00] | xpis: | Enabling TV out is one of the device settings, but I have no idea what the name is. X -configure would list all possible options in the config file, but nvidia doesn't like that for some reason. |
| [04:34:00] | xpis: | You might want to try google as well. |
| [04:34:00] | Anduin: | The driver has a readme |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | it's all in the nvidia driver readme |
| [04:34:00] | xpis: | Although you probably only need to look as far as the documentation supplied with the driver. |
| [04:35:00] | kormoc: | under the section, configurating tv out |
| [04:35:00] | xpis: | ok, there's your answer. Read the readme that you should have read before installing. |
| [04:35:00] | achew22: | chuckle.... thankyou all |
| [04:35:00] | achew22: | appendix H |
| [04:36:00] | xpis: | When all else fails, read the readme. |
| [04:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | guys |
| [04:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | whats it called when u have 2 options and u cant make up your mind? dilemma? |
| [04:37:00] | quitte: | Yellow-Snow: being stoned? |
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| [04:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | no player |
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| [04:41:00] | quitte: | Yellow-Snow: anyways – a dilemma is a loose loose situation. you _have_ to chose but either ways you will get into trouble |
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| [04:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody know offhand what database holds the commflag information? |
| [04:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have screwed up mythcomflag :/ |
| [04:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 1004 20050928210000 Lost IN USE |
| [04:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | (the program is already being flagged elsewhere) |
| [04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its saying that but its not being flagged |
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| [04:50:00] | shep_: | so... PVR-250 can do VBI / Closed captioning, eh? Anyone know the key to setting this up? |
| [04:53:00] | shep_: | I cannot seem to find anything of relevance on the documentation, the wiki, or the mailing list. |
| [04:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | arg how do u change that blue bar around the video to black? |
| [04:54:00] | shep_: | Yellow-Snow: is it all around the entire screen? |
| [04:54:00] | Yellow-Snow: | just top and right |
| [04:54:00] | Yellow-Snow: | it differs |
| [04:54:00] | shep_: | xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0 |
| [04:54:00] | shep_: | try that |
| [04:54:00] | shep_: | worked for me |
| [04:54:00] | Yellow-Snow: | aight |
| [04:54:00] | shep_: | sets the background to black |
| [04:55:00] | shep_: | I have it in my ~/.xinitrc |
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| [04:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm |
| [04:56:00] | Yellow-Snow: | testing |
| [04:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hell yes |
| [04:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | now to find .xinitrc =\ |
| [04:57:00] | shep_: | its in your home directory |
| [04:57:00] | shep_: | ~ |
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| [04:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | nope =\ |
| [04:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i have knoppmyth |
| [04:58:00] | quitte: | Yellow-Snow: ls -a |
| [04:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i did that already |
| [04:59:00] | shep_: | how about: |
| [04:59:00] | shep_: | cd |
| [04:59:00] | shep_: | then: |
| [04:59:00] | Anduin: | shep_ – If you are running a newis ivtv and have the setting enabled, yes. |
| [04:59:00] | shep_: | ls -la |
| [04:59:00] | shep_: | Anduin: The setting is what Im not aware of |
| [04:59:00] | shep_: | Anduin: :-) |
| [05:00:00] | shep_: | Anduin: ivtv 0.4.2, myth 0.19 |
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| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | i wouldn't bother with CC on the pvr-x50, really |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't sync very well to what's on screen |
| [05:00:00] | shep_: | Anduin: Think you could nudge me as to the location of the setting? |
| [05:01:00] | shep_: | Chutt: So yoou've got it to work? |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | err, yes? |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | all you have to do is turn it on in the setup program |
| [05:01:00] | shep_: | Chutt: mythtv-setup ? |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | is there another setup program? |
| [05:02:00] | shep_: | Chutt: Touche |
| [05:02:00] | Anduin: | shep_ – Chutt is right though, I found it less useful than I'd hoped. |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | the timestamps that ivtv generates for the subtitles aren't right |
| [05:02:00] | shep_: | Chutt: Perhaps I am missing the setting then, the setup program only offers a box for the video device |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | general settings, last page |
| [05:03:00] | Chutt: | rather, 3rd page |
| [05:03:00] | Chutt: | 'VBI format' |
| [05:04:00] | shep_: | Chutt: Mine is set to NTSC, as I am USA |
| [05:04:00] | xpis: | Chutt: and is raw vbi data from framegrabbers supposed to be supported? |
| [05:05:00] | Anduin: | shep_ – Have you tried hitting T then? |
| [05:05:00] | shep_: | Even if the timestamps are wrong, I'd still like to see how it works here |
| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | xpis, yes |
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| [05:05:00] | shep_: | Anduin: Yea, I cycled through all CC modes, and TXT modes |
| [05:06:00] | Chutt: | stay on the first CC mode, and wait a while. |
| [05:07:00] | shep_: | Yeah, I've had it on for a while and on CNN, which should have them |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | wow, I've never seen AV sync issues with atsc live tv before. |
| [05:09:00] | xris: | then again, I guess I *am* compiling in the background |
| [05:10:00] | shep_: | Grrr |
| [05:10:00] | shep_: | Ive got to be missing something stupid, but I just dont see it |
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| [05:12:00] | shep_: | If I run the vbi program from the ivtv distribution, it prints out text... |
| [05:12:00] | shep_: | so the card works |
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| [05:14:00] | Anduin: | shep_ – With -v record it should print a message when recording starts (VBI service:blah) |
| [05:15:00] | shep_: | Anduin: frontend or backend debug? |
| [05:15:00] | Kyler: | Life is good. Yesterday I realized I not only need to set mpg_buffers for ivtv but I also need max_mpg_buffers. I set them both to 64 and I haven't had a data drop all day. I also just downloaded nuvexport 0.3 and it works for me! (That hasn't happened in a long time.) |
| [05:15:00] | Anduin: | shep_ – backend |
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| [05:17:00] | flyr: | xris: Would you happen to know if myth works better with a newer release of mysql (newer than 4.0.18)? I'm seeing a pegged cpu when mythweb displays a tv listing. |
| [05:18:00] | shep_: | VBI service:4, packet size:0, io size:0 |
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| [05:19:00] | shep_: | Anduin: Would it matter if i am running backend/linux frontend/mac ? |
| [05:20:00] | Anduin: | shep_ – It shouldn't, but I know nothing about what is in/out of the mac version. |
| [05:21:00] | shep_: | hrm... |
| [05:21:00] | shep_: | ler me toggle the kvm and get back in a sec |
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| [05:26:00] | shep_: | Anduin: Yeppers, thats it... |
| [05:26:00] | shep_: | perhaps an email to one of the lists is in order? |
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| [05:29:00] | marccd: | what is the keybinding for the previous channel? |
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| [05:29:00] | Anduin: | H |
| [05:29:00] | marccd: | thanks |
| [05:30:00] | marccd: | in 0.19 the livetv cache for rewind forward is saved as a .mpg? |
| [05:30:00] | shep_: | night all |
| [05:30:00] | shep_: | thanks for the help |
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| [05:30:00] | marccd: | I just want to set the threshold on how big the livetv buffer cache can be, any ideas? |
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| [05:33:00] | marccd: | is there a key to exit myth altogether? |
| [05:33:00] | Anduin: | marccd – It records each show to a file, as if you scheduled it (plus some magic to stitch them) |
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| [05:34:00] | marccd: | Anduin: no, for live tv cache |
| [05:34:00] | marccd: | I didnt set any shows to record |
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| [05:36:00] | chuggachu: | whats the quickest way to get myth on an Xbox ? |
| [05:36:00] | Anduin: | marccd – live tv no longer uses a ring buffer, shows will be recorded to separate files |
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| [05:37:00] | marccd: | Anduin: my record folder is /mnt/ademas/myth/recordings/ç |
| [05:37:00] | marccd: | as a I am watching live tv, I get a mpg file there |
| [05:37:00] | marccd: | with what I am watching |
| [05:37:00] | marccd: | that continuosly grows, BUT, I am NOT recording |
| [05:37:00] | marccd: | so I am assuming it is the ring buffer |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | there is no ring buffer. |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | there is no 'cache' |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | there is no size limit for it. |
| [05:39:00] | marccd: | then how does myth handle to go back and forward while watching live tv? |
| [05:39:00] | marccd: | if I watch live tv continuosly then it will eat up my whole HD |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | so? |
| [05:40:00] | marccd: | so??.. I cant have that happen |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | why not? |
| [05:41:00] | Agrajag-: | don't watch so much tv |
| [05:41:00] | marccd: | because myth hangs up if tha happens |
| [05:41:00] | Agrajag-: | it's bad for you |
| [05:41:00] | marccd: | I have an 8gb drive |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | why will it hang? |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | oh, whatever |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | come back when you have some real hardware. |
| [05:41:00] | marccd: | fuck you |
| [05:41:00] | marccd: | wtf is that? |
| [05:41:00] | Gumby`: | cmon kids, grow up |
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| [05:42:00] | Anduin: | marccd – Use auto-expire |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | he can't |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | he can barely record a single program on that size drive |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | you need space for at least 2 full programs with live-tv. |
| [05:43:00] | marccd: | Anduin thanks |
| [05:43:00] | Chutt: | and there's no need to explicitly use auto-expire, since it's always on for live-tv programs. |
| [05:43:00] | marccd: | Chutt: a show its 2gb |
| [05:43:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Chutt | |
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| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | so, care to apologize? |
| [05:44:00] | marccd: | wtf is this? |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt: | wtf is what? |
| [05:45:00] | marccd: | you are an op and you are rejecting a users question because he doesnt have good hardware |
| [05:45:00] | Gumby`: | Chutt: I personally think you owe him just as much of an apology. |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt: | Gumby`, why, for re-explaining things after he was told several times? |
| [05:45:00] | marccd: | i am sorry for the langauge, but you behavior was inappropiate |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt sets mode +b *!*n=marccd@*.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net | |
| [05:45:00] | marccd was kicked from #mythtv-users by Chutt | |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt sets mode -o Chutt | |
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| [05:46:00] | achew22: | wow... |
| [05:46:00] | chuggachu: | he just apologized and you kicked him ? |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | no, he didn't |
| [05:47:00] | achew22: | hey Chutt, how did you kick him? your only voiced? |
| [05:47:00] | achew22: | ohh nevermind |
| [05:47:00] | achew22: | you opped yourself |
| [05:47:00] | Gumby`: | man, this place is going downhill if this is how the ops act now. |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | i'm tired of morons tonight. |
| [05:47:00] | achew22: | chutt was that a timed ban? |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | timed? |
| [05:47:00] | Gumby`: | and you've never not fully understood something I assume |
| [05:47:00] | achew22: | will you take it off in an hour |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | why would i do that? |
| [05:47:00] | Gumby`: | lol, theres a good example |
| [05:48:00] | Gumby`: | lol |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | no, i understand what he's saying |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | i don't understand _why_ it would be a timed ban |
| [05:48:00] | Gumby`: | because wwhat he did wasnt a major offence at all |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | he can discuss it with me if he wants it removed |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | he hasn't, yet, so i assume he doesn't care. |
| [05:48:00] | achew22: | because people cool down. I haven't given a untimed ban in... ever |
| [05:49:00] | achew22: | anyways... back to the more important things in life... me |
| [05:50:00] | achew22: | I have a question. I got Svideo out working on my NVidea chip and I was wondering what to do when the screen goes black and it says (on the monitor not the tv) "sync out of range" |
| [05:50:00] | ** Gumby` tries to figure out why mythfrontend keeps segfaulting ** | |
| [05:50:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: can you post your xorg.conf somewhere? |
| [05:50:00] | achew22: | sure... one sec |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | Gumby`, backtraces help with that. |
| [05:50:00] | Gumby`: | svideo to TV I assume? |
| [05:50:00] | achew22: | I just issed a reboot so its gotta reboot |
| [05:50:00] | achew22: | yes |
| [05:50:00] | achew22: | exactly right |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | why is this channel turning into a linux help channel? |
| [05:51:00] | achew22: | how isn't that pertaining to mythtv? |
| [05:51:00] | Gumby`: | Chutt: achew22 because hes in a pissy mood and he doesnt want it to |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | how's setting up X have to do with myth? |
| [05:51:00] | Gumby`: | errr |
| [05:51:00] | Gumby`: | -chutt |
| [05:52:00] | achew22: | um... outputting an tv signal to a tv through myth pertains to mythtv in my mind |
| [05:52:00] | achew22: | if you don't like I'd be happy to move this into a private chatroom |
| [05:52:00] | Gumby`: | its more of a distro question IMHO. But its not totally irrelivant to myth |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | right, but it doesn't have much to do with myth itself. |
| [05:52:00] | achew22: | but if you disqualify everything that isn't exactly myth then noone would be here |
| [05:53:00] | achew22: | your people who have issues copiling would be kicked out becasue thats not souly mythtv |
| [05:53:00] | achew22: | the people who have corrupt databases wouldn't be here because thats mysql |
| [05:53:00] | achew22: | linux is a family |
| [05:53:00] | achew22: | it needs to be treated as one |
| [05:53:00] | achew22: | come join my circle of trust Chutt |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby`: | lol |
| [05:53:00] | ** achew22 extends his arms in a loving motion ** | |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby`: | fag |
| [05:54:00] | Chutt: | there's better places to get general linux support |
| [05:54:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [05:54:00] | Chutt: | that's all |
| [05:54:00] | achew22: | okay — well I ended up here, and the past is the past |
| [05:54:00] | Gumby`: | Chutt: sometimes a gentle nudge is more helpful that a full fledged kick in the ass |
| [05:54:00] | achew22: | also where else can I get such incredible help with that specific of an issue. most people in the xorg channel don't do svideo out |
| [05:55:00] | quitte: | achew22: google? |
| [05:55:00] | achew22: | shh... don't prove my point wrong |
| [05:55:00] | Chutt: | a kick in the ass makes people leave faster, though |
| [05:55:00] | achew22: | pointing fingers is the ms way |
| [05:55:00] | Chutt: | and they don't tend to ask more questions that way |
| [05:55:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Chutt | |
| [05:56:00] | Chutt sets mode -b *!*n=marccd@*.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net | |
| [05:56:00] | Chutt sets mode -o Chutt | |
| [05:57:00] | quitte: | ah. good time to say that i'd prefer if the ring buffer still existed. noone wants t record music channels |
| [05:57:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: http://ultimate.kicks-ass.net/files/xorg.conf thats my working one. change "composite" to "svideo" and you should be good to go. |
| [05:57:00] | achew22: | thankyou Chutt |
| [05:57:00] | achew22: | aaw man... i just got it on pastebin http://pastebin.com/559077 |
| [05:57:00] | Gumby`: | lol |
| [05:58:00] | Chutt: | quitte, ocr the video, split up the audio |
| [05:58:00] | Chutt: | sure you want to record it :p |
| [05:58:00] | quitte: | Chutt: ocr? |
| [05:58:00] | achew22: | lol did it through ssh so I did A LOT of page down stuffs |
| [05:58:00] | Chutt: | err, translate into text? |
| [05:58:00] | quitte: | mtd is the memory technology device – ocr is optical character recognition – how are those things mythtv related? |
| [05:59:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:59:00] | ** kormoc whispers to quitte, 'it is myth related if Chutt says it is...' :P ** | |
| [05:59:00] | quitte: | Chutt: so why was the ringbuffer removed? i just dont see a point in removing things that are useful for some |
| [05:59:00] | Chutt: | what's it useful for? |
| [05:59:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: is your card dual output at one time, or does it just have two outputs? |
| [06:00:00] | achew22: | I don't understand |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | quitte, I actually like the new live tv method. If you run out of space, it auto expires and it's all good. |
| [06:00:00] | quitte: | for livetv when you are zapping – people do that. and why prevent them from doingit? |
| [06:00:00] | Chutt: | what about the non-ringbuffer stuff changes that? |
| [06:00:00] | achew22: | it has 2 outputs i think is the answer |
| [06:00:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: well, just because a video card has a svid out and a vga connector doesnt mean that it can do twinview (both at the same time) |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | achew22, some videocards can only output on one connector at a time |
| [06:00:00] | achew22: | 1 at a time |
| [06:00:00] | achew22: | but it will do console on both |
| [06:00:00] | achew22: | so I think it is capible of both |
| [06:01:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: ok, then your xorg.conf is totalyl wrong |
| [06:01:00] | achew22: | chuckle... |
| [06:01:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: naw, console will work on both no problem |
| [06:01:00] | Chutt: | the non-ringbuffer makes channel flipping faster for most people, even |
| [06:01:00] | quitte: | i give up. i' prefer areal livetv method anyways where the hdd ca go to sleep |
| [06:01:00] | achew22: | Gumby` sounds like me... totaly wrong |
| [06:01:00] | kormoc: | quitte, you couldn't do that with the ringbuffer anyway. |
| [06:01:00] | achew22: | Gumby` i'm going to go check on the reboot process and see if the livetv mode will work now |
| [06:01:00] | Gumby`: | quitte: then dont use mythtv. use something like xawtv or tvtime, might be better suited for your needs |
| [06:01:00] | Chutt: | you give up even before you gave a reason why |
| [06:01:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [06:02:00] | achew22: | and not make it freak out |
| [06:02:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: no need to reboot. |
| [06:02:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: just restart X |
| [06:02:00] | achew22: | really? but I can't see anything |
| [06:02:00] | Gumby`: | can you get to a console? |
| [06:02:00] | achew22: | no |
| [06:02:00] | achew22: | well... don't know how so thats the issue |
| [06:02:00] | Gumby`: | ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work ? |
| [06:02:00] | Gumby`: | what distro is this? |
| [06:02:00] | achew22: | okay i already issued the ssh reboot command |
| [06:02:00] | achew22: | Ubuntu |
| [06:03:00] | achew22: | there are a lot of U's in Ubuntu |
| [06:03:00] | quitte: | Gumby`: saying you can use something different is not an excuse for not including something. |
| [06:03:00] | achew22: | is xpis a developer? |
| [06:03:00] | quitte: | achew22: xheck out unununium |
| [06:03:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [06:03:00] | Gumby`: | quitte: mythtv was never developed to do what you are asking it to do. |
| [06:04:00] | Gumby`: | quitte: mythtv was never meant for the use of livetv without touching the hard drive |
| [06:04:00] | Chutt: | there's hooks for running external programs for live-tv, though |
| [06:04:00] | Gumby`: | so if thats what you want, you need to use something else |
| [06:04:00] | Chutt: | since people bitch about it every now and then |
| [06:04:00] | quitte: | Gumby`: and how is adding a plugin to do it a problem except that it wasnt meant to be there when planning it? |
| [06:04:00] | Gumby`: | quitte: I not once said it wasnt, |
| [06:04:00] | dev-: | oh boy im glad im detaching and not getting into this conversation |
| [06:04:00] | ** dev- & ** | |
| [06:05:00] | Gumby`: | lol |
| [06:05:00] | achew22: | dev- be glad |
| [06:05:00] | achew22: | dev- will you frolic in the rain with me? |
| [06:05:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: be quiet and fix your X issues |
| [06:05:00] | Gumby`: | hehehe |
| [06:05:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [06:05:00] | achew22: | leme check on it |
| [06:05:00] | achew22: | brb |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | live-tv without hitting the harddrive is limited to a couple types of capture cards, and machine with tuner cards in them. |
| [06:05:00] | fatmatt: | anyone using myth for internet radio stuff? |
| [06:06:00] | quitte: | i really wonderwhy everytime you make some suggesion how things should work everybody jumps at your throat |
| [06:06:00] | achew22: | lol — your config file made it worse ;) |
| [06:06:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: dont use my WHOLE config. that was just a sample silly man |
| [06:06:00] | quitte: | Chutt: ah great. a technical explanation. i can live with that |
| [06:06:00] | achew22: | ohh... |
| [06:06:00] | ** achew22 feels really stupid ** | |
| [06:07:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: use your config, but have a look at mine as a guide to edit yours. |
| [06:07:00] | Gumby`: | lemme look at yours again, one sec |
| [06:07:00] | achew22: | http://pastebin.com/559077 |
| [06:08:00] | Chutt: | um |
| [06:08:00] | Chutt: | why do you have video card options in the input settings section? |
| [06:08:00] | achew22: | Chutt you can make fun of me now |
| [06:08:00] | quitte: | from mypoint of view tv should be handled asjust another plugin btw. mythtv is useful even if no tv capture cardis available as a easy to use multimedia station for dvds webbrowsinig burning etc. |
| [06:09:00] | Chutt: | quitte, it's a built-in plugin. |
| [06:09:00] | Chutt: | never saw the need to make it separate. |
| [06:09:00] | achew22: | if you don't configure it what happens? |
| [06:09:00] | Chutt: | nothing? |
| [06:09:00] | achew22: | yeah.... |
| [06:09:00] | quitte: | Chutt: it's just logical to do so. maybe you can think about it for .20 |
| [06:10:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [06:10:00] | achew22: | Gumby` you found a cure for my stupidity? |
| [06:10:00] | Chutt: | won't :p |
| [06:10:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: death? |
| [06:10:00] | quitte: | of course not :p |
| [06:10:00] | achew22: | lol |
| [06:10:00] | Gumby`: | hehe |
| [06:10:00] | achew22: | Chutt are you a dev? |
| [06:10:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [06:10:00] | ** kormoc chuckles. ** | |
| [06:10:00] | achew22: | you REALLY wont be thinking about doing it in that case |
| [06:10:00] | Gumby`: | quitte: what video card do you have? |
| [06:10:00] | ** kormoc whispers to achew22, 'You should pick up on something right about now...' ** | |
| [06:11:00] | achew22: | don't argue with the boss? |
| [06:11:00] | quitte: | Gumby`: depends. bttv pvr-150 dvb-s and none. dependingon te location where i set the system up. |
| [06:11:00] | achew22: | or don't argue with ops? |
| [06:11:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: video card, not tuner card :) |
| [06:11:00] | achew22: | ohh |
| [06:11:00] | achew22: | sorry |
| [06:12:00] | ** kormoc whispers to achew22, 'he is _-*the*-_ dev' ** | |
| [06:12:00] | achew22: | nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP |
| [06:12:00] | Chutt: | quitte, i'm actually more pondering removing plugins |
| [06:12:00] | achew22: | ohh |
| [06:12:00] | quitte: | oh. then the answer is unichrome geforce2 g400 i810 |
| [06:12:00] | achew22: | then he should have answered yes to are you a dev? |
| [06:12:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, have them been more work then they are worth sort of thing? |
| [06:12:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [06:12:00] | achew22: | hey Chutt, since your the dev can I ask you some quesitons that are kindof code specific? |
| [06:12:00] | Chutt: | achew22, no |
| [06:12:00] | achew22: | alright |
| [06:13:00] | Chutt: | kormoc, would be easier to unify interfaces if everything's in the same place, is all |
| [06:13:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, understandable. I've often wondered if the interface was a bit more complex due to the plugins. |
| [06:13:00] | quitte: | Chutt: why remove? wouldnt splitting it up into smaller modules be a better idea? so that they can be handled as subprojects taking load off your shoulders? |
| [06:13:00] | Chutt: | quitte, what's separate plugins have to do with handling them as subprojects? |
| [06:13:00] | achew22: | Gumby` i have a nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP |
| [06:14:00] | quitte: | it just makes it possible |
| [06:14:00] | kormoc: | achew22, nForce is a motherboard, GeForce is a videocard |
| [06:14:00] | Chutt: | no more different, really |
| [06:14:00] | Chutt: | it's not like anyone actually maintains the plugins |
| [06:14:00] | achew22: | sorry... i'm getting tired I took my sleep medicine |
| [06:14:00] | achew22: | nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX – nForce GPU] (rev a3) |
| [06:15:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: may I msg you (dont want to flood here) |
| [06:15:00] | quitte: | Chutt: but libmyth already providersthe infrastructure to make your own plugins? |
| [06:15:00] | Chutt: | sure |
| [06:15:00] | achew22: | Gumby` msg at will |
| [06:15:00] | Chutt: | i wouldn't be removing _that_ |
| [06:16:00] | quitte: | Chutt: how stable is libmyth? |
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| [06:16:00] | metalac: | hey guys |
| [06:16:00] | Chutt: | what type of stable do you mean? |
| [06:16:00] | achew22: | What version of QT is mythtv built in? |
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| [06:16:00] | Chutt: | > 3.1, < 4.0 |
| [06:16:00] | metalac: | i just got my viewsonic n3250w installed and the TV quality is kinda bad so i'm wondering what sort of things i can do to improve it? |
| [06:16:00] | Gumby`: | grrr, I cant message. freakin freenode |
| [06:16:00] | quitte: | Chutt: i dont care for binary compatibility. but will current plugins be able to compile for .20? |
| [06:16:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: ok, one sec... |
| [06:16:00] | metalac: | everything looks kinda fuzzy |
| [06:16:00] | Chutt: | quitte, depends |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | libmyth hasn't had a really big major change in a while |
| [06:17:00] | quitte: | Chutt: let me guess. on your decision making? ;) |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | i've been redoing the ui for a bit |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | that'll make all the plugins have to change |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | if i ever have time to finish |
| [06:18:00] | dmachi: | anyone here using a pvr350? I seem to be having issues when live tv switches to a new ring buffer between programs. Additionally, I can't seem to get it to schedule a recordidng any more? I noticed one trac ticket, but not much else. Anyone have any info or ideas? |
| [06:18:00] | quitte: | i hope theres more documentation than just the headers then. |
| [06:18:00] | Chutt: | dmachi, try current svn |
| [06:18:00] | Chutt: | quitte, why? i'll probably end up migrating all the plugins anyway |
| [06:18:00] | dmachi: | Chutt, in the 0.19 fixes branch, or the main trunk? |
| [06:19:00] | Chutt: | dmachi, main trunk |
| [06:19:00] | dmachi: | Chutt, ok thanks |
| [06:19:00] | quitte: | Chutt: sounds like you dont want others to work on your baby a lot. |
| [06:19:00] | Chutt: | quitte, err, there's something like 15 other people with svn access |
| [06:19:00] | Chutt: | so, uh... |
| [06:20:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: have a look at http://ultimate.kicks-ass.net/files/xorg.conf.changes |
| [06:20:00] | Gumby`: | tell me if it makes sense or not |
| [06:20:00] | quitte: | still i'D expect more plugins to pop up from other devs if documentation exists |
| [06:20:00] | kormoc: | quitte, all projects need a leader, who sets a path which is followed. without that, people would be stepping on each other a lot and it would break down. |
| [06:20:00] | dmachi: | Chutt one other question. Since its going to take time to recompile, do you know that this is a fixed bug and svn has the fix in it for sure (sorry, i have to make sure to record a show for my wife tonight or i'll be in trouble). |
| [06:20:00] | Chutt: | copying existing plugins is easy enough, generally |
| [06:20:00] | achew22: | Gumby` use my origional? |
| [06:20:00] | Chutt: | dmachi, i checked in a fix for one thing that could cause it to hang there. |
| [06:21:00] | Gumby`: | achew22: yes, but make those changes |
| [06:21:00] | dmachi: | Chutt: cool, gracias. |
| [06:21:00] | Chutt: | dmachi, obviously, i don't know if it's what's making it happen to you |
| [06:21:00] | dmachi: | Chutt: of course. Do you know about the scheduled recordiong problem too? |
| [06:21:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [06:21:00] | quitte: | kormoc: if there is a standard interface to use the gui additions wouldnt have to break the main project. |
| [06:21:00] | Chutt: | err |
| [06:21:00] | Chutt: | sure it would |
| [06:22:00] | Gumby`: | gah. my frontend crashes are getting worse. |
| [06:22:00] | ** Gumby` googles how to backtrace ** | |
| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | i'm changing from one standard interface for doing the ui to another |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | quitte, it's the nature of progress. |
| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | no compatability layer possible. |
| [06:22:00] | quitte: | Chutt: ok so the problem is that myth is not yet stable enough for that? |
| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | um |
| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | s/stable/static/ |
| [06:23:00] | quitte: | ok |
| [06:23:00] | achew22: | okay Gumby` I will be checking it now... brb |
| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | boring. |
| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | unchanging. |
| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | :p |
| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | go ask why the kernel people change their external apis all the time =) |
| [06:25:00] | quitte: | well. i guess i've made my thoughts clear enough. separating ui and functionality seems to be logic to me. thats it. |
| [06:25:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [06:25:00] | Chutt: | well, most of the existing plugins _are_ ui |
| [06:25:00] | Chutt: | there's very little actual functionality in them |
| [06:26:00] | quitte: | ui is xml files calling external programs? |
| [06:26:00] | Chutt: | english? |
| [06:26:00] | kormoc: | quitte, things like mythvideo are just a interface to call mplayer/xine/myth to play a video. |
| [06:27:00] | quitte: | the mnus can be easily changed by just editting xml files. so it seemed to me thy were just calling external programs or functions |
| [06:27:00] | Chutt: | they're calling internal functions, for the most part. |
| [06:27:00] | Chutt: | mythvideo is all ui, for instance |
| [06:27:00] | Chutt: | aside from some minor database stuff |
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| [06:29:00] | quitte: | ok. so it's just the way it is and changin that would involve a complete rewrite i guess. |
| [06:31:00] | quitte: | thanks a lot for the insight. see you. |
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| [06:41:00] | MrEntropy: | yo |
| [06:41:00] | MrEntropy: | what are "video sources" |
| [06:41:00] | MrEntropy: | ? |
| [06:42:00] | quitte: | something that spits out motion pictures |
| [06:42:00] | MrEntropy: | my quarrel is that they require a grabber, i've taken a look at the info that the grabber gets and it's nothing to do with frequencies. |
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| [06:43:00] | MrEntropy: | quitte: but you specify channels in the channel editor |
| [06:43:00] | MrEntropy: | quitte: so why the video sources? |
| [06:43:00] | quitte: | MrEntropy: so you have just a composite or svideo in? |
| [06:43:00] | MrEntropy: | quitte: DVB-T |
| [06:43:00] | quitte: | that has channels |
| [06:44:00] | quitte: | each channel would be a video source, i think |
| [06:44:00] | MrEntropy: | quitte: but i still have to scan for them in the channel editor |
| [06:44:00] | quitte: | can you give them names there,too? |
| [06:45:00] | MrEntropy: | nope, they get sucked off the dvb stream, the networks name their own channels |
| [06:45:00] | MrEntropy: | quitte: ok, is there any way i can specify the video sources manually? |
| [06:46:00] | quitte: | wait ill have a look at myth-setup. maybe tha helps me understand your questions |
| [06:47:00] | MrEntropy: | i'll detail a little more. i only have a dvb-t card, and the grabber for australia does not give mythtv dvb channel data for my area. So therefore in order to enable the channel scanner in the channel editor i have to download a channel list from a city that's not mine, which is just downright messy. |
| [06:48:00] | quitte: | MrEntropy: seems to me its the source of program information for the channels,actually |
| [06:48:00] | quitte: | MrEntropy: us eit data only would be approprate then i think |
| [06:49:00] | quitte: | s/us/use |
| [06:49:00] | MrEntropy: | quitte: oh wow...i didn't see that option before, that's awesome, i'll see if it works. thank you. |
| [06:50:00] | quitte: | welcome |
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| [06:51:00] | MrEntropy: | OH! no way! 0.19 allows you to import channles.conf! |
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| [06:52:00] | Chutt: | slightly easier for dvb than before :p |
| [06:53:00] | MrEntropy: | definately, scanning the full range took hours last time. |
| [06:54:00] | DGnome: | Satellite? |
| [06:57:00] | MrEntropy: | terrestrial |
| [07:03:00] | DGnome: | hours? |
| [07:03:00] | DGnome: | weird |
| [07:03:00] | quitte: | DGnome: dvb-t |
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| [07:03:00] | DGnome: | well, didn't take that long for me :) |
| [07:03:00] | quitte: | ah |
| [07:03:00] | DGnome: | about 10 minutes |
| [07:04:00] | quitte: | bah. all the world already has dvb-t. i hate baden württemberg |
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| [07:25:00] | Gumby`: | does anyone know why I am able to change channels with my remote on my pvr250 which is on my master backend but not with my bttv card in my slave backend? |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, it's not setup correctly? |
| [07:26:00] | Gumby`: | hrm, nm. its working now |
| [07:26:00] | Gumby`: | strange |
| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [07:26:00] | Gumby`: | two seconds ago it wasnt |
| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | heisenbugs rock |
| [07:26:00] | Gumby`: | I'd click the numbers, they'd appear on the screen, I'd click enter... but the channel wouldnt change |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | non-existant channel? |
| [07:27:00] | Gumby`: | same channel, both times |
| [07:27:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, I had that happen once as well, worked fine after I restarted the backend. |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | there _may |
| [07:27:00] | Gumby`: | hrm, 03 [enter] doesnt work, but 3 [enter] does |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | err, _may_ be something in the logs saying why it didn't change |
| [07:28:00] | Gumby`: | hrm, I have to fix the keypress rate on my ati remote. |
| [07:29:00] | Gumby`: | Chutt: earlier you said the ring buffer didnt exist anymore... if thats so then this message might need to be changed.... |
| [07:30:00] | Gumby`: | 2006-02–16 23:28:42.327 TVRec(1): RingBufferChanged() |
| [07:30:00] | Gumby`: | hehe |
| [07:30:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [07:30:00] | Chutt: | didn't bother changing the class name |
| [07:30:00] | Gumby`: | so the livetv recordings, they just stick around until you expire them manually? |
| [07:31:00] | Chutt: | naw, they get autodeleted whenever space is needed |
| [07:31:00] | Chutt: | unless they're short (< 3 minutes, i think) |
| [07:31:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, I'm reading wikipedia about heisenbug bugs, the Schroedinbug bug is the most amusing, and the one I run into the most :P |
| [07:31:00] | Chutt: | then they get deleted right away |
| [07:31:00] | Chutt: | or there's also a maximum age setting for them, so you could delete them > 1 day, or so |
| [07:31:00] | Chutt: | though that's only set to the day |
| [07:32:00] | Chutt: | but they have the highest autoexpire ranking, so they go first |
| [07:32:00] | Gumby`: | ah nice, I didnt see that |
| [07:32:00] | Chutt: | and you can't disable autoexpire for them |
| [07:32:00] | MrEntropy: | ok, so i've gotten the frontend and backend set up. when i select "watch tv" it comes up with a black screen (with osd at the bottom) and starts recording. Why is it recording? i set no such thing |
| [07:32:00] | Gumby`: | thats good |
| [07:32:00] | kormoc: | MrEntropy, all tv is recorded |
| [07:32:00] | Gumby`: | MrEntropy: thats how mythtv works. if it didnt record how do you expect to timeshift? |
| [07:33:00] | MrEntropy: | kormoc: can i turn it off? |
| [07:33:00] | Chutt: | no. |
| [07:33:00] | MrEntropy: | hmm |
| [07:33:00] | MrEntropy: | ok |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | MrEntropy: you can turn it off if you turn myth off |
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| [07:33:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [07:33:00] | kormoc: | MrEntropy, myth is designed to record, if you don't want to record, tvtime/xawtv might be better choices. |
| [07:33:00] | Gigamonkey: | hi |
| [07:34:00] | Gumby`: | Chutt: us the delete > 1 day etc for livetv files in mythtv-setup or in the setup section within the frontend? |
| [07:34:00] | Gigamonkey: | anyone around that wouldnt mind answering some hardware questions ? |
| [07:34:00] | Gumby`: | Gigamonkey: questions can only be answered when properly asked |
| [07:34:00] | Gigamonkey: | ok |
| [07:34:00] | Chutt: | honestly, i have absolutely no idea |
| [07:35:00] | Chutt: | i'd imagine it's with the rest of the autoexpire settings |
| [07:35:00] | Gigamonkey: | is there a protocal I should follow when asking a question ? |
| [07:35:00] | Gumby`: | Gigamonkey: yes, dont ask to ask, just ask |
| [07:35:00] | Gigamonkey: | ah |
| [07:35:00] | Gigamonkey: | i like that |
| [07:35:00] | Gigamonkey: | ok here it is |
| [07:35:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, usually you describe the issue, and tack on a question mark on the end... |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | eh? |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [07:36:00] | Gumby`: | asuming its an appropriate question for the forum/placae you are asking it |
| [07:37:00] | Gumby`: | Chutt: found it. its in the setup of mythfrontend in the TV Settings. First page |
| [07:37:00] | Gumby`: | set to 1day by default |
| [07:37:00] | Gigamonkey: | I hav eone of these http://www.avantek.co.uk/acl/mobo/in_se7501cw2.htm motherboards I would like to know if it would be resonable to use it as an htpc |
| [07:38:00] | Gigamonkey: | it comes with 4 gigs of ram and 2 xeon 2.8 procs |
| [07:38:00] | Gumby`: | lol |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: what a waste |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, likely a bit of a overkill |
| [07:38:00] | Gumby`: | um, a bit overkill |
| [07:38:00] | Gigamonkey: | no its not |
| [07:38:00] | Gigamonkey: | wait |
| [07:38:00] | Gigamonkey: | no its not a waste |
| [07:38:00] | Gigamonkey: | its free |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: you have an aorport in your living room? |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | airport* |
| [07:38:00] | Gigamonkey: | airport ? |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | complete with traffic controllers? |
| [07:39:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, that's awesome, but as a backend, it's a bit much, if I was you, I'd sell it and buy a shuttle and use that as a backend. |
| [07:39:00] | Gigamonkey: | ah interesting you should ask that question because when i fire this server up it sounds like one |
| [07:39:00] | Gumby`: | Gigamonkey: you can run an htpc on 1/4 of that power |
| [07:39:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: exactly :) |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | hrm |
| [07:39:00] | Gigamonkey: | mrchu i have an add on question to that point |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | aspect ratio's off on this menu |
| [07:39:00] | Gumby`: | Gigamonkey: possibly 1/8th that power if you have an ivtv based card |
| [07:39:00] | Gigamonkey: | im looking to put that mobo in one of these http://www.antec.com/us/support_productInfo_d . . . ProdID=15730 |
| [07:40:00] | Gigamonkey: | overrure II |
| [07:40:00] | Gigamonkey: | overture |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:40:00] | Gigamonkey: | do you think it would have enough cooling |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | forget about it |
| [07:40:00] | Gigamonkey: | ya thats what i thought |
| [07:40:00] | Gigamonkey: | SUck |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | you buy a diswasher type case, tat might provide enough cooling :) |
| [07:40:00] | Gumby`: | Gigamonkey: seriously, sell that system and buy two or three other ones |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | that* |
| [07:41:00] | Gigamonkey: | lol mchou |
| [07:41:00] | Gigamonkey: | the 40 mill fans on this thing scream |
| [07:41:00] | Gumby`: | thats one hell of a system, its just HUGE overkill for an htp |
| [07:41:00] | Gumby`: | c |
| [07:41:00] | Gigamonkey: | its in a 1u half depth case atm |
| [07:41:00] | Gigamonkey: | ya i know |
| [07:41:00] | Gigamonkey: | its quite kick ass |
| [07:42:00] | Gigamonkey: | it was a game server |
| [07:42:00] | Gigamonkey: | but my data center and free 100mb uplink closed |
| [07:42:00] | Gumby`: | and you scored it for free? |
| [07:42:00] | Gigamonkey: | yes i did |
| [07:42:00] | Gumby`: | you suck |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: did the procs com free too? |
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| [07:42:00] | Gigamonkey: | yes they did |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | come* |
| [07:42:00] | Gigamonkey: | and the 4 gigs of ram |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | nice |
| [07:42:00] | Gigamonkey: | and the scsi drive |
| [07:42:00] | Gumby`: | yeah yeah, shut up already |
| [07:42:00] | Gigamonkey: | lol |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | five finger discount? :) |
| [07:43:00] | Gigamonkey: | wanna buy it ? |
| [07:43:00] | Gigamonkey: | no no |
| [07:43:00] | Gumby`: | lol, no. |
| [07:43:00] | Gumby`: | I have no need for such a beast |
| [07:43:00] | Gigamonkey: | i know the vp of biz dev at www.rackable.com |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | or maybe 10 fingers in this case :) |
| [07:43:00] | Gigamonkey: | he gave it to me |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | biz dev? |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:43:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, honestly, I doubt you could fit a power supply into that overture II that would power that board |
| [07:43:00] | Gigamonkey: | yes |
| [07:43:00] | Gumby`: | sounds like a "quick, company is going out of business and we might not get our last paycheck.... smash and grab time" |
| [07:43:00] | Gigamonkey: | the board only needs a 300W PS and it comes with a 450 |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, dual xeons and 4 gigs of ram should really take a 450 watt PS imho. |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: are you a powerful CEO or something? |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, that overture is a small case |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [07:44:00] | Gigamonkey: | Kor you should see what its in |
| [07:44:00] | Gigamonkey: | its very small |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, different form factors |
| [07:44:00] | Gigamonkey: | im only worried about coling |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: redundant power supplies? |
| [07:44:00] | Gigamonkey: | cooling |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, the case it's currently in the PS is beside the mobo |
| [07:44:00] | Gigamonkey: | no |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, the overture, the PS will likely hang over the board |
| [07:44:00] | Gigamonkey: | yes kor |
| [07:45:00] | Gigamonkey: | ah |
| [07:45:00] | Gigamonkey: | hmm |
| [07:45:00] | Gigamonkey: | no i dont think so |
| [07:45:00] | Gigamonkey: | the OvII is a side mount |
| [07:45:00] | Gigamonkey: | ill show u |
| [07:45:00] | Gigamonkey: | sec |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | ah you may be right |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | take a look at this |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | http://www.antec.com/pdf/drawings/overtureII_techdrawing.pdf |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | it does seem lick it sitts above on the left side front |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | whats your take? |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | like |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | mchou: no im not a ceo type |
| [07:46:00] | Gigamonkey: | and rackable just went public |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | so why did biz dev guy give it to you? :) |
| [07:47:00] | Gigamonkey: | they dont give out server to just any slob on the street |
| [07:47:00] | Gigamonkey: | because i know him we are friends |
| [07:47:00] | Gigamonkey: | and i needed a server |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:47:00] | Gigamonkey: | and this was 3 years ago |
| [07:47:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, it's one of those cases, your're likely gonna need to give it a shot and see how it fits, but likely imho, it won't fit really nice. |
| [07:47:00] | Gigamonkey: | so this server would have run around 4k |
| [07:47:00] | Gigamonkey: | neway |
| [07:48:00] | Gigamonkey: | kormoc i tend to agree with you |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: you get rack mount drives with that thing? |
| [07:48:00] | Gigamonkey: | i really need to know how high that ps is off of the board |
| [07:48:00] | Gigamonkey: | no 1 drive internal |
| [07:48:00] | Gigamonkey: | 180gig scsi |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | Gigamonkey: bah |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | that's nowhere near enough |
| [07:49:00] | Gigamonkey: | but |
| [07:49:00] | Gigamonkey: | ya i nkow |
| [07:49:00] | Gigamonkey: | i will add sata drives to it |
| [07:49:00] | Gigamonkey: | two or three |
| [07:49:00] | Gigamonkey: | dont want to afford scsi |
| [07:49:00] | Gigamonkey: | no reason for it |
| [07:50:00] | Gigamonkey: | this overture is a sweet case tho |
| [07:50:00] | Gumby`: | better hope that mobos onboard chipset is well supported in linux |
| [07:50:00] | Gigamonkey: | it is |
| [07:50:00] | Gigamonkey: | its intel |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | it's an intel board |
| [07:50:00] | Gumby`: | I mean the scsi driver |
| [07:50:00] | Gigamonkey: | it is |
| [07:50:00] | Gumby`: | probably is, but you better check just in case |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | of course it's well supported |
| [07:50:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, intel brand boards are going to be supported |
| [07:51:00] | Gigamonkey: | it has run gentoo like a champ in the past |
| [07:51:00] | Gigamonkey: | but i was thinking of running windows on it |
| [07:51:00] | Gumby`: | I had one hell of a time getting a dual xeon board running windows once. lol |
| [07:51:00] | Gigamonkey: | so that i can use it for other things like games and what not |
| [07:51:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, there's no agp on it, so you're going to be limited to pci videocards if you want to have it be a frontend as ell |
| [07:51:00] | Gigamonkey: | this thing runs win 2003 like a shmap |
| [07:51:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, xeon's aren't really that good with games, is my understanding |
| [07:51:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [07:51:00] | Gumby`: | spent 24hrs at a clients. ended up putting linux on and running windows in a vmware session. poor back, but its what my boss decided to do |
| [07:51:00] | Gigamonkey: | yes Kormoc |
| [07:51:00] | mchou: | shmap :) |
| [07:51:00] | Gigamonkey: | LOL gumby |
| [07:52:00] | Gigamonkey: | thats sad |
| [07:52:00] | Gigamonkey: | shmap = champ |
| [07:52:00] | Gigamonkey: | ANYway |
| [07:52:00] | Gumby`: | installed winnt, install went fine, when it did the swap from fat to ntfs, the thing kernel paniced after reboot |
| [07:52:00] | Gigamonkey: | so lest say the case will work |
| [07:52:00] | Gumby`: | would no longer so the hdd. lol |
| [07:52:00] | Gigamonkey: | lets |
| [07:53:00] | Gigamonkey: | next step for me is cards |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | I thought it was a contraction of shit and crap :) |
| [07:53:00] | Gigamonkey: | i assume i need a cap card and a vid card |
| [07:53:00] | Gigamonkey: | Lol |
| [07:53:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, do you know what version the pci slots are? |
| [07:53:00] | Gigamonkey: | um |
| [07:53:00] | Gigamonkey: | good question |
| [07:53:00] | Gigamonkey: | sec |
| [07:54:00] | Gigamonkey: | hree independent PCI buses, up to five total slots: one PCI-X 64-bit/133MHz, two PCI-X 64-bit/100MHz, two 32-bit/33MHz |
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| [07:54:00] | Gigamonkey: | does that help ? |
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| [07:54:00] | mchou: | no |
| [07:54:00] | Gigamonkey: | hmm |
| [07:55:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, I had a dual processor p3 box that only had pci 2.0 slots. the m179 encoder I had would not work in it at all, it required 2.1 |
| [07:55:00] | Gigamonkey: | ah Kormoc this is a dual xeon board that came out in like 2002 |
| [07:55:00] | Gigamonkey: | so i think im ok there |
| [07:55:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, sure, but that doesn't mean that it has them. |
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| [07:56:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, if they felt no reason to put them on there, for example, the lack of the agp |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | shit |
| [07:56:00] | Gigamonkey: | hmm |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | servers dont need agp |
| [07:56:00] | Gigamonkey: | thats very true |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | they barely need any video at all, in fact |
| [07:57:00] | Gigamonkey: | this has on board ati vid |
| [07:57:00] | Gigamonkey: | 8meg radion |
| [07:57:00] | Gigamonkey: | kinda nice |
| [07:57:00] | Gigamonkey: | till you really need some power |
| [07:57:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, you mean 8 mb rage :P |
| [07:57:00] | Gigamonkey: | yes sire |
| [07:57:00] | Gigamonkey: | thats correct |
| [07:57:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, way older then a radeon |
| [07:57:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [07:57:00] | Gigamonkey: | my bad mixed lingo |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | raeons came out by 2002 |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | I have one |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | radeons* |
| [07:58:00] | Gigamonkey: | yes i just looked at the chip its a rage |
| [07:58:00] | Gigamonkey: | like what you would see in a laptop prolly |
| [07:58:00] | kormoc: | http://www.ati.com/products/embedded/ragexl/features.html |
| [07:58:00] | kormoc: | Graphics Clock: 83MHz :P |
| [07:58:00] | Gigamonkey: | single chip the size of a stamp |
| [07:59:00] | Gumby`: | finally got the strace from mythfrontend segfaulting |
| [07:59:00] | kormoc: | in anycase, I'm off to bed |
| [07:59:00] | Gumby`: | nanosleep({0, 10000000}, 0) = ? ERESTART_RESTARTBLOCK (To be restarted) |
| [07:59:00] | Gumby`: | +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ |
| [07:59:00] | Gumby`: | mean anything to anyone? |
| [07:59:00] | Chutt: | backtrace |
| [07:59:00] | Chutt: | not strace :p |
| [07:59:00] | Gumby`: | gah. |
| [07:59:00] | Chutt: | troubleshooting section in the docs on the website |
| [07:59:00] | ** Gumby` tries again ** | |
| [08:00:00] | Gigamonkey: | ok lets see if that power supply is sitting right abouve my ram you see any issues with that ? |
| [08:00:00] | Chutt: | gdb, etc |
| [08:00:00] | Gumby`: | thx Chutt |
| [08:00:00] | Gigamonkey: | above |
| [08:00:00] | Gigamonkey: | i think not |
| [08:00:00] | Chutt: | you'll have to recompile |
| [08:00:00] | Gumby`: | gah |
| [08:00:00] | kormoc: | Gigamonkey, other then it might not fix, could cause the ram to overheat if it's stagnet air |
| [08:00:00] | Gumby`: | I'll just wait for now. hehe |
| [08:01:00] | Gumby`: | I'm not in a compiling mood. I am using atrpms currently anyhow. maybe its a bug and tehy'll be fixed when the packages go stable |
| [08:01:00] | Chutt: | doubtful |
| [08:01:00] | Chutt: | where's it segfaulting? |
| [08:01:00] | Chutt: | like, are you just running it, and it dies? |
| [08:01:00] | Gumby`: | yeah |
| [08:01:00] | Gumby`: | livetv mostly it seems |
| [08:01:00] | dmachi: | Chutt: no love with the svn update :( Still hangs between programs |
| [08:01:00] | Chutt: | oh, not just startup |
| [08:01:00] | Gumby`: | actually, I havnt seen it die anywhere else |
| [08:01:00] | Chutt: | dmachi, sorry |
| [08:01:00] | Gigamonkey: | Server Board Form Factor SSI Entry E-Bay 3.0 (fits in many ATX-compliant tower chassis) |
| [08:01:00] | Gigamonkey: | Server Board Size 12" x 13" |
| [08:02:00] | Gigamonkey: | thats kinda big im thinking |
| [08:02:00] | Gumby`: | nope, startup is fine. everything seems fine, just sometimes watching livetv and boom, back to desktop |
| [08:02:00] | Gigamonkey: | Main Board Size |
| [08:02:00] | Gigamonkey: | 12"(W)x9.6"(L) |
| [08:02:00] | Gumby`: | sometimes its after a minute, sometimes its hours |
| [08:02:00] | Gigamonkey: | there goes the overture |
| [08:02:00] | Gigamonkey: | damn |
| [08:03:00] | Gigamonkey: | maybe i will try to sell it then |
| [08:03:00] | Gigamonkey: | any idea what i box like this will fetch on ebay ? |
| [08:03:00] | Gumby`: | I wonder if it has something to do with the buffer that isnt a buffer but more like a live recording |
| [08:03:00] | Gumby`: | hehe |
| [08:03:00] | Gumby`: | I was thinking hdd space maybe, but looks like I have lots of space |
| [08:03:00] | dmachi: | Chutt: np, i'll see if i can isolate it. |
| [08:04:00] | Gigamonkey: | o my the procs alone are still 350 bux a pop |
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| [08:04:00] | Gigamonkey: | 250 |
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| [08:07:00] | Gigamonkey: | ram is 130 a stick |
| [08:07:00] | Gigamonkey: | o my |
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| [08:07:00] | Gigamonkey: | anyway thank you all for the advise |
| [08:08:00] | Gigamonkey: | it was emotional |
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| [08:08:00] | dmachi: | hrmph, emotional seems a strange way to describe it. |
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| [08:17:00] | Gumby`: | is the avertv m179 similar to a pvr1/2 50? |
| [08:18:00] | Gumby`: | orshould I say, is it an ivtv chipset that works well in linux and myth |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | yes, though it's generally mentioned that it's of lesser quality |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | and some people had issues with them |
| [08:19:00] | Gumby`: | hrm |
| [08:21:00] | Gumby`: | gah, there goes the frontend again |
| [08:30:00] | Calroth: | i'm a few minutes away from starting the 0.19 upgrade |
| [08:30:00] | Calroth: | any words of wisdom? :-) |
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| [08:33:00] | mchou: | back up :) |
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| [08:35:00] | ** Calroth is backing up everything, contents of /usr/local, database, everything :-) ** | |
| [08:39:00] | Calroth: | and now for the magic command, "emerge mythtv" :-p |
| [08:40:00] | Chutt: | i get the most amusing emails |
| [08:40:00] | Chutt: | It took me 2 weeks for Mythtv to compile properly, because of your installation |
| [08:40:00] | Chutt: | guide is soo complex it is not funny. |
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| [08:41:00] | mchou: | Chutt:haha!! |
| [08:42:00] | fatmatt: | are the dvico plus cards the ones you need to patch the kernel for? |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | depends on your kernel ver afaik |
| [08:42:00] | fatmatt: | latest |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | which is? |
| [08:43:00] | fatmatt: | umm, 2.6.15 I think |
| [08:43:00] | fatmatt: | at least it will be when I pull that machine apart to install the new card |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | I think that should be up to date |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | as far as the fusion is concerned. |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | where did you get your fusion, and how much did you pay? |
| [08:44:00] | fatmatt: | there's a dvico lite that has been in the kernel for a while, but research on the plus gives me a whole bunch of stuff about 6–12 months old that suggests patching |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | ahh, plus might require patching |
| [08:45:00] | fatmatt: | I'm trying to work out if I get the lite or the plus, I want kernel, not patched support |
| [08:46:00] | mchou: | lol, by the time you get it it will be in the std kernel :) |
| [08:46:00] | fatmatt: | I'm in the mood for an impulse buy |
| [08:46:00] | mchou: | like I said, from where and how $? |
| [08:48:00] | fatmatt: | if I order it now, it'll be waiting for me when I get home next week, auspcmarket AUD$204 |
| [08:49:00] | mchou: | umm, is this for DVB? |
| [08:49:00] | mchou: | I thought you were talking atsc |
| [08:49:00] | fatmatt: | yes, and no |
| [08:50:00] | mchou: | if this is dvb you should ignore what I said earlier :) |
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| [09:30:00] | Calroth: | ok, moment of truth time |
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| [09:32:00] | Calroth: | my analog tuner is now tuning static, my digital tuner seems to work |
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| [09:33:00] | MrIch: | Hello, I have a mysql problem with 0.19 |
| [09:33:00] | MrIch: | Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client |
| [09:33:00] | MrIch: | I have already set old_passwords in my.conf |
| [09:35:00] | stuarta: | sounds like mysql5 with mysqlclient10 |
| [09:36:00] | MrIch: | mysql4.1 |
| [09:36:00] | MrIch: | libmysqlclient10 12 14 15 |
| [09:37:00] | Agrajag-: | does anyone know what to change in the theme xml to change the number of items that appear on each page? there's heaps of space but i have to scroll through to see all menu items |
| [09:37:00] | MrIch: | suarta any idea? |
| [09:38:00] | stuarta: | what libmysqlclient? |
| [09:39:00] | MrIch: | I have version libmysqlclient 10, 12, 14 and 15 installed |
| [09:39:00] | MrIch: | all at the same time |
| [09:40:00] | stuarta: | so do i. |
| [09:40:00] | MrIch: | what shall I do? |
| [09:40:00] | stuarta: | okay, which one is the backend linked against? (ldd mythbackend) |
| [09:41:00] | MrIch: | ldd says 52 linked libaries but no one with sql |
| [09:42:00] | stuarta: | just going to have a poke around... scuse me a moment |
| [09:48:00] | stuarta: | bugger, it's linked in via libqt3-mt-mysql which doesn't have an .so version :( |
| [09:48:00] | stuarta: | okay what distrib are you using...? |
| [09:48:00] | MrIch: | debain 3.1 testing |
| [09:49:00] | stuarta: | did you compile from source? |
| [09:49:00] | MrIch: | no |
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| [09:49:00] | MrIch: | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main |
| [09:49:00] | MrIch: | am I using... |
| [09:50:00] | stuarta: | ahh. I'm on deb testing to, but I compile from source. |
| [09:50:00] | MrIch: | Hmm is the problem that I am using debian testing but using a sid mythtv? |
| [09:51:00] | stuarta: | sid should = unstable / testing, |
| [09:51:00] | stuarta: | I'd apt-get the source and build it... |
| [09:53:00] | MrIch: | Oh my machine is suddenly rebooting, seems like mythbackend is runing? |
| [09:53:00] | stuarta: | huh? |
| [09:55:00] | MrIch: | it is definitly runing now, do not ask my why |
| [09:55:00] | MrIch: | I have resetet the password simply once again |
| [09:56:00] | ** stuarta scratches head... ** | |
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| [10:01:00] | jvs: | where does mythmusic usually save its playslists? |
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| [10:07:00] | stuarta: | morning juski |
| [10:08:00] | Calroth: | did 0.19 do anything to the frequency tables? |
| [10:08:00] | Calroth: | my analog tuner is only picking up static |
| [10:08:00] | juski: | morning stuarta. TFIF ;-) |
| [10:09:00] | stuarta: | Indeed.. |
| [10:09:00] | stuarta: | finally tried your theme last night. Nice :-) |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | cheers :-) |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | the wide one is too dark for my tv.. shows shown as being recorded in the recorded programs list are unreadable... red text on black |
| [10:11:00] | stuarta: | normal is great on my TFT monitor. |
| [10:11:00] | juski: | looks mighty fine on my TFT too |
| [10:11:00] | juski: | maybe my TV gamma needs calibrated again |
| [10:12:00] | stuarta: | they tend to be a bit darker anyway. |
| [10:12:00] | juski: | I'm sure my wife keeps messing with the settings.. bit of a random button presser ;-) |
| [10:13:00] | juski: | might improve matters by finally getting around to trying the VGA-RGB lead I made |
| [10:13:00] | juski: | can't mess with RGB inputs (muhahahahaha) |
| [10:14:00] | stuarta: | you can tell it's friday. You're more evil than normal :) |
| [10:14:00] | juski: | made a couple of very helpful posts on the mythtvtalk forum before coming in to work – I'm all helped out now |
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| [10:17:00] | MrIch: | where do I find the dvd playback function in 019? |
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| [10:23:00] | MrIch: | no idead? |
| [10:23:00] | juski: | erm... |
| [10:23:00] | stuarta: | think it's in mythplugins. |
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| [10:23:00] | MrIch: | is there a mythweb debian version availiable? |
| [10:23:00] | juski: | select the dvd player application to be 'internal' |
| [10:24:00] | quitte: | MrIch: yes. marillat has it |
| [10:24:00] | juski: | is mythweb distro dependant now? ;-) |
| [10:25:00] | juski is now known as dogbert | |
| [10:25:00] | quitte: | jurich usually you never install with make install in debian |
| [10:25:00] | quitte: | err juski/dogbert |
| [10:25:00] | dogbert: | I didn't install mythweb with make install either |
| [10:26:00] | quitte: | does this new dvdplayer in 0.19 support dvd menus? |
| [10:26:00] | MrIch: | juski where can I select the dvd player application? |
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| [10:26:00] | dogbert: | utils/settings/settings/media/dvd |
| [10:26:00] | stuarta: | for mythweb, I just have an svn co in the relevant directory. |
| [10:26:00] | MrIch: | media dvd is not here :( |
| [10:26:00] | MrIch: | there are only image/picture settigs |
| [10:27:00] | dogbert: | MrIch: oops |
| [10:27:00] | quitte: | MrIch: is mythtv in cdrom group? |
| [10:27:00] | quitte: | oh. MrIch mythdvd installed? |
| [10:27:00] | stuarta: | mythplugins.... |
| [10:27:00] | quitte: | stuarta: plugins are split in multiple packages in debian |
| [10:28:00] | MrIch: | hmm my mythplugisn version is still 0.18? |
| [10:28:00] | MrIch: | but I did an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [10:28:00] | quitte: | MrIch: marillat hasnt made 0.19 packages,yet it seems. |
| [10:28:00] | MrIch: | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/m/mythplugins/ |
| [10:28:00] | stuarta: | quitte: ah, I use source, not packages... |
| [10:28:00] | MrIch: | here are no 0.19 packages!!! |
| [10:28:00] | dogbert: | boo hoo |
| [10:28:00] | MrIch: | :P |
| [10:28:00] | quitte: | MrIch: shouting doesnt make them appear |
| [10:29:00] | MrIch: | I know ;) |
| [10:29:00] | dogbert: | try stamping your foot & shouting ;-) |
| [10:29:00] | stuarta is now known as dilbert | |
| [10:29:00] | quitte: | MrIch: i got some for athlon – but libmyth-dev is broken |
| [10:29:00] | MrIch: | where do you come from quite? |
| [10:29:00] | dilbert is now known as stuarta | |
| [10:29:00] | quitte: | MrIch: europe |
| [10:29:00] | dogbert: | seeing as I'm 'evil' |
| [10:29:00] | MrIch: | I do not think my shouting will be listend by you |
| [10:29:00] | dogbert: | thought I may aswell have an evil-ish nick ;) |
| [10:30:00] | MrIch: | germany... |
| [10:31:00] | dogbert: | MrIch: compiling all by yourself isn't so bad |
| [10:31:00] | quitte: | dogbert: it was before i changed the prefix in the wiki |
| [10:32:00] | MrIch: | dogbert this is an option but another optin is waiting some days |
| [10:32:00] | dogbert: | never had any issues doing it on ubuntu, and that's debian (kind of) |
| [10:33:00] | quitte: | dogbert: you get the issues when you install myth from debs or want to remove it |
| [10:33:00] | dogbert: | remove mythtv? why would I want to do that? ;-) |
| [10:33:00] | quitte: | dogbert: to install a new version for example |
| [10:34:00] | quitte: | dogbert: just nothing that isnt a package should go to usr. thats what usr/local is for |
| [10:34:00] | dogbert: | just build the new on top. I compiled & installed SVN ontop of 0.18 from a package. I knew I'd never be able to uninstall it with apt |
| [10:35:00] | quitte: | dogbert: noticed that some files arent in 0.19 any more? they are still on your disk,though |
| [10:35:00] | dogbert: | true |
| [10:35:00] | dogbert: | not harming anything being there though |
| [10:36:00] | stuarta: | i beg to differ |
| [10:36:00] | quitte: | dogbert: just use --prefix=/usr/local next time. usr/local is early in the path anyways |
| [10:37:00] | dogbert: | how so? if a lib is there but nothing uses it how can that be harmful? |
| [10:37:00] | stuarta: | the trick lies in making sure nothing uses it. |
| [10:38:00] | quitte: | if a program that has suid set and has a bug that is fixed in a newer version and you forget that file... |
| [10:38:00] | dogbert: | well – the prefix change is noted anyway :-) |
| [10:38:00] | dogbert: | I just blunder along being lucky sometimes |
| [10:39:00] | stuarta: | an occasionally a make uninstall is good :) |
| [10:39:00] | quitte: | dogbert: if you add your user to the staff group you dont even have to be root to install to usr/local. gaining extra safety |
| [10:39:00] | ** quitte goes add that to the wiki ** | |
| [10:40:00] | dogbert: | like apparently I should've have 0.4.1 ivtv working on a 2.6.12 kernel.. but mine works |
| [10:40:00] | dogbert: | can't remember who told me that but I think they might have been wrong in hindsight |
| [10:40:00] | stuarta: | maybe it only works for some people... |
| [10:41:00] | dogbert: | some jiggerypokery was needed to make the installer script think it'd installed the modules which confliced with v4l modules |
| [10:41:00] | dogbert: | maybe that's what they meant |
| [10:42:00] | stuarta: | the 1 button install didn't work :) |
| [10:43:00] | dogbert: | I hate things being over-simplified. look at what happenned to Nero on windows. burning a video DVD is now a series of 'one click' operations |
| [10:44:00] | MrIch: | my splaso,age os notworking in grub,any idea? |
| [10:44:00] | MrIch: | image... |
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| [10:44:00] | dogbert: | erm... something framebuffery missing from the kernel? |
| [10:45:00] | stuarta is now known as fred_basset | |
| [10:45:00] | catbert: | ah very british. |
| [10:45:00] | fred_basset: | my favourite |
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| [10:47:00] | catbert: | no ratbert? |
| [10:47:00] | fred_basset: | knew there was another character!!! |
| [10:47:00] | Merlin83b: | There are loads. |
| [10:47:00] | fred_basset: | thought about apu |
| [10:48:00] | catbert: | someone should be phb |
| [10:48:00] | fred_basset: | or it abu? |
| [10:48:00] | catbert: | which one's that? |
| [10:48:00] | Merlin83b: | apu |
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| [10:48:00] | fred_basset: | Pointy Haired Boss |
| [10:49:00] | catbert: | I meant which one's apu |
| [10:49:00] | catbert: | or is apu phb? |
| [10:49:00] | fred_basset: | oh, the new guy... |
| [10:49:00] | quitte: | hi again. can someone explain how mysql in sid is broken? it worked for me. so unless the problem was explained to me i'll just replace the fix with the debian way to set mysql root password |
| [10:49:00] | Merlin83b: | Um, I think you mean Asok. |
| [10:50:00] | catbert: | quitte: no it's a cartoon only channel today. |
| [10:50:00] | fred_basset: | quitte: mysql in debian isn't broken. |
| [10:50:00] | Merlin83b is now known as Elbonian | |
| [10:50:00] | quitte: | www.rabbit-comics.org <- damn funny. but you have to read from the beginning or it is just confusing |
| [10:51:00] | quitte: | fred_basset: ok. removing that in the wiki then |
| [10:51:00] | catbert: | Elbonian? |
| [10:51:00] | fred_basset: | let me read what you have first... |
| [10:51:00] | fred_basset: | may be specific to the marillat debs. |
| [10:51:00] | Elbonian: | Elbonian. A person from Elbonia. |
| [10:52:00] | catbert: | ahaa. |
| [10:52:00] | catbert: | you got your big hat and bushy beard on? |
| [10:52:00] | Elbonian: | Of course. |
| [10:52:00] | Elbonian: | You got yor being a cat on ;-) |
| [10:53:00] | catbert: | miaow. |
| [10:54:00] | catbert: | haven't seen jono in the channel for a long time. did he get annoyed after his usability thing? |
| [10:55:00] | fred_basset: | quitte: which wiki is the info in?? |
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| [11:03:00] | dogbert: | catbert: he's just busy with stuff I think |
| [11:04:00] | quitte: | fred_basset: www.mythtv.org/wiki |
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| [11:05:00] | ** dogbert listened to abour 30 mins worth of the latest 'cast last night 8-| ** | |
| [11:05:00] | quitte: | fred basset have a look at the old version. did some major changes |
| [11:06:00] | quitte: | fred_basset: and if you want to add how to add a mythtv user to mysql. using mysql with root user isn'T a good idea,too. |
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| [11:07:00] | fred_basset: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv identified by 'passwd'; |
| [11:07:00] | fred_basset: | flush priviledges; |
| [11:07:00] | fred_basset: | That's all from memory of course.... |
| [11:08:00] | quitte: | fred_basset: the marillat debs did that for me. i'm sorry but i have no clue about this. |
| [11:08:00] | fred_basset: | Which section is it in? |
| [11:08:00] | quitte: | its its own installing on debian |
| [11:09:00] | fred_basset: | see what I can find... |
| [11:13:00] | dogbert: | upgrading at the weekend – I hope to hell the DVB stuff is okay when I do, though my contingency plan should work if it doesn't |
| [11:13:00] | MrIch: | can someone helpme with grub? |
| [11:13:00] | MrIch: | I want to ahev an PowerOffe Entry |
| [11:13:00] | quitte: | MrIch: yes #yourdistro |
| [11:13:00] | MrIch: | debian |
| [11:13:00] | quitte: | #debian then |
| [11:14:00] | MrIch: | it is a bit mythtv specific |
| [11:14:00] | dogbert: | a poweroff entry in grub? to each their own I suppose |
| [11:14:00] | quitte: | no |
| [11:14:00] | quitte: | its not myth specific |
| [11:14:00] | MrIch: | let me explain |
| [11:14:00] | dogbert: | you'll want lirc enabled in grub next :-/ |
| [11:14:00] | MrIch: | mythtv starts a script if not used 5minutes an reboot the machine |
| [11:14:00] | Calroth: | is it possible for an analog and digital input to share the same channel? |
| [11:14:00] | Calroth: | cos i can't seem to get it to work in 0.19 |
| [11:14:00] | dogbert: | Calroth: nope |
| [11:15:00] | Calroth: | (it worked fine in 0.18) |
| [11:15:00] | dogbert: | eh? |
| [11:15:00] | quitte: | MrIch: grub is the wrong place anyways |
| [11:15:00] | quitte: | learn about sysvinit |
| [11:15:00] | Calroth: | e.g. channel 2 has both dvb and analog tuning params |
| [11:16:00] | dogbert: | Calroth: each in-duh-vidual channel can come from one tuner source, and one only AFAIK |
| [11:17:00] | Calroth: | hmm |
| [11:17:00] | quitte: | dogbert: no. it is possible to have multiple tuners so that if you have overlapping schedules a free tuner is picked |
| [11:17:00] | Calroth: | both analog and digital seem to be reading the "mplexid" column in the channel table |
| [11:18:00] | dogbert: | I know that, but I didn't think you could mix tuner types on each channel |
| [11:18:00] | quitte: | dogbert: why not. i dont know – but i'd be surprised |
| [11:18:00] | Calroth: | worked fine for me for 0.18, as said |
| [11:19:00] | Calroth: | but now, if i set up a channel for dvb, the analog doesn't tune, only picks up static |
| [11:19:00] | dogbert: | my 2 DVB-T tuners have been assigned the same video source, but that's not the same thing |
| [11:20:00] | dogbert: | Calroth: so you might need to have two channels instead of one (one digi, one analogue) |
| [11:20:00] | Calroth: | yeah, I guess |
| [11:20:00] | dogbert: | damn that won't work the same way either – myth chooses the recording channel by chanid, not channel name |
| [11:21:00] | Calroth: | although as mentioned above, having the same channel helps with overlaps in scheduling :-) |
| [11:24:00] | dogbert: | I suppose myth 0.19 is making an assumption that if mplexid isn't 'null' then it's a digital channel |
| [11:26:00] | dogbert: | Calroth: it'd be worth making a post to the users list with this – or even the dev list |
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| [11:29:00] | Calroth: | going through the --verbose all logs and the source code now |
| [11:30:00] | Calroth: | it's picking up the analog card, but it's getting static – probably using the wrong frequency table |
| [11:31:00] | dogbert: | narrows it down quite a bit |
| [11:37:00] | ivor: | ah crap. to get my work machine more memory they want to "monitor" it for three days. crap. going to have to uninstall some software. :) |
| [11:38:00] | dogbert: | ivor: sucky |
| [11:38:00] | Elbonian: | Heh. |
| [11:38:00] | ivor: | oui. |
| [11:38:00] | dogbert: | Calroth: http://www.cuymedia.com/doxygen-dev-docs/html . . . -source.html |
| [11:39:00] | dogbert: | lines 1000–1048 look interesting |
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| [11:47:00] | Calroth: | the code is in mythtv/libs/libmythtv/channel.cpp |
| [11:48:00] | Calroth: | SetChannelByString – looks like if mplexid is defined, it returns the digital frequency, else it returns the analog frequency |
| [11:48:00] | Calroth: | quite a major change from the release-0-18-fixes branch |
| [11:49:00] | dogbert: | ouch |
| [11:50:00] | Calroth: | man, they really did overhaul this module :-) |
| [11:51:00] | dogbert: | so – new limit of one tuner type per channel |
| [11:52:00] | quitte: | Bi got a little confused about lnb specs. what's better – 0,5db snr or 0,7db snr? |
| [11:53:00] | dogbert: | 0.7db I think |
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| [11:53:00] | dogbert: | signal to noise ratio – you want more signal than noise ;) |
| [11:53:00] | Calroth: | else you get your analog card tuning in to the digital frequency (which doesn't work too well) |
| [11:53:00] | quitte: | Calroth: well that is nonsense |
| [11:54:00] | dogbert: | Calroth: heh. |
| [11:54:00] | dogbert: | quitte: makes perfect sense |
| [11:54:00] | quitte: | dogbert: uhm thatd be a insanely low snr then |
| [11:55:00] | dogbert: | quitte: I know |
| [11:55:00] | quitte: | and it'd mean getting several channels at once all the time |
| [11:56:00] | dogbert: | quitte: no it wouldn't |
| [11:56:00] | dogbert: | it'd just mean the analogue tuner wouldn't be able to demodulate anything at that frequency & all you'd get is mush |
| [11:56:00] | quitte: | it wouldn't? aren't the digital channels on a remarkably higher frequency range? |
| [11:56:00] | dogbert: | quitte: depends |
| [11:57:00] | dogbert: | digital channels are on muxes whose frequency isn't the same as the analogue channels |
| [11:57:00] | dogbert: | there's no rule that says they're always on higher frequencies |
| [11:57:00] | dogbert: | certainly not the case in the UK – they can be anywhere in the band |
| [11:57:00] | quitte: | this is all very confusing to me. |
| [11:58:00] | quitte: | some 10000mhz go to the lnb and then some 1000–2100mhz come back? |
| [11:59:00] | fred_basset: | quitte: are you talking satellites now? |
| [11:59:00] | quitte: | yes |
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| [11:59:00] | fred_basset: | the lnb is meant to downconvert the incoming freq, to one that can be transmitted along wires. |
| [12:00:00] | dogbert: | quitte: I got the lnb info. the value in dB is the noise figure, not SNR. so lower numbers are better |
| [12:00:00] | dogbert: | if they quote 0.7dB SNR they're mistaken ;-) |
| [12:00:00] | quitte: | ugh. so 0,7 is really bad |
| [12:01:00] | fred_basset: | ~= 0 signal |
| [12:01:00] | quitte: | the crappy ones from the supermarket are 0.6 and 0.5 |
| [12:01:00] | dogbert: | good ones are like 0.3dB & less |
| [12:01:00] | quitte: | damn. that sure explains why i have to jump out the window every few weeks |
| [12:02:00] | fred_basset: | dogbert: is that the attenuation of the lnb? |
| [12:02:00] | dogbert: | it's very interesting how LNBs work... they take frequencies in the high GHz range, mix them with a local oscillator & the resultant frequency is lower than the input :-) |
| [12:03:00] | quitte: | and i bet if you open them you dont get to see anything interesting? |
| [12:03:00] | dogbert: | fred_basset: the dB figure is the 'noise figure' – i.e. the amount of noise output by the amplifier in the LNB |
| [12:03:00] | dogbert: | quitte: SHF amps aren't very interesting to look at, no |
| [12:03:00] | fred_basset: | ah. |
| [12:04:00] | dogbert: | fred_basset: you could look at that like an attenuator in some ways because the incoming signal will have noise added to it ;-) |
| [12:04:00] | quitte: | db is logarithmic – so 0,5db is a lot better than 0,7? |
| [12:04:00] | dogbert: | yes |
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| [12:05:00] | dogbert: | gain is an important spec. too btw |
| [12:05:00] | quitte: | the 0,5s are really cheap. and i could get one with 4 switched outputs. go for that or wait until i can afford something in the 0,3db range? |
| [12:05:00] | quitte: | gain? hmm |
| [12:05:00] | quitte: | sigh. so hard to buy things you dont understand the specs of |
| [12:05:00] | dogbert: | gain = amplification factor |
| [12:05:00] | fred_basset: | dvb-s is a bit of a technical art... |
| [12:05:00] | dogbert: | more is better |
| [12:06:00] | dogbert: | gain.. higher numbers better |
| [12:06:00] | quitte: | this one i have here doesnt even mention gain |
| [12:06:00] | dogbert: | noise figure – lower numbers are better |
| [12:06:00] | dogbert: | quitte: well... find another shop |
| [12:07:00] | quitte: | but noise is relative – so noise distance is more important? |
| [12:07:00] | quitte: | dogbert: i was looking at the actual lnb |
| [12:07:00] | dogbert: | well, a 50dB gain amp with a noise figure of 3dB will be worse than a 45dB gain LNB with a noise figure of 0.5dB |
| [12:08:00] | dogbert: | go for lower noise |
| [12:08:00] | quitte: | i dont have very long cables – so i'd think amp is really not that important |
| [12:08:00] | dogbert: | course 0.2dB might not make all that much difference at all if you get a good signal in the first place |
| [12:10:00] | quitte: | dogbert: do you know about positioning the lnb in its holding? as in moving away from the dish or to the dish? |
| [12:10:00] | dogbert: | OMFG.. that's a satellite & cable publication called SCATMAG |
| [12:10:00] | Dibblah: | quitte: Ah. You're here. |
| [12:10:00] | quitte: | i'd think there is some linkage to which astras you get better |
| [12:11:00] | Dibblah: | It's not something we can solve inside the Myth build. |
| [12:11:00] | dogbert: | quitte: I've aimed a few dishes in my time but I'm no installer dude |
| [12:11:00] | Dibblah: | However, a quick sed on the Makefiles should get you the result you seem to want. |
| [12:12:00] | quitte: | Dibblah: ok. thanks a lot. seems i misspelled my email address so you could identify me? |
| [12:12:00] | dogbert: | quitte: all the atra satellites are supposed to be placed in such a way that if you get one well, you should get all of them more or less the same |
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| [12:12:00] | [Elvis]: | morning guys |
| [12:12:00] | Elbonian: | Good morning JASPER |
| [12:12:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [12:13:00] | [Elvis]: | my nickname is allready in use |
| [12:13:00] | [Elvis]: | by my laptopp |
| [12:13:00] | dogbert: | the astra publicity bumph more or less explains it as all the Astra satellites are in the same 'bubble' that you aim your dish at |
| [12:13:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [12:13:00] | [Elvis] is now known as [Jasper] | |
| [12:13:00] | [Jasper]: | :P |
| [12:13:00] | Dibblah: | Apologies for closing the ticket abruptly, but... I really don't want to leave Isaac to answer questions like that, since he tends to get... Wound up. |
| [12:13:00] | Elbonian: | Today's nick theme is cartoons. And particularly Dilbert characters. |
| [12:13:00] | dogbert: | what did I start? ;-) |
| [12:13:00] | Dibblah: | They ain't made a cartoon of me yet, I think. |
| [12:13:00] | fred_basset: | No the theme is cartoon animals!! |
| [12:13:00] | quitte: | Dibblah: ok. no worries. you gave me an idea how to make it work. should do the trick for me. |
| [12:13:00] | Elbonian: | It is? |
| [12:13:00] | Elbonian: | Whoops. |
| [12:14:00] | fred_basset: | cartoons in general :) |
| [12:14:00] | ** fred_basset doesn't belong in dilbert :( ** | |
| [12:14:00] | Elbonian: | Indeed. |
| [12:15:00] | dogbert: | fred_basset: they have laws against that kind of thing |
| [12:15:00] | fred_basset: | wouldn't fit anyway... |
| [12:15:00] | [Jasper]: | hmm why is it that some sites say the nvidia geforce 4 has full hardware mpeg2 decoding? |
| [12:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Because the hardware does ? |
| [12:16:00] | [Jasper]: | hmm GreyFoxx but the 5200 doesn't? |
| [12:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would expect that it does |
| [12:18:00] | ivor: | perhaps its a typical "marketing distortion field" |
| [12:19:00] | [Jasper]: | probably |
| [12:19:00] | [Jasper]: | it would be weird having a geforce4 with full mpeg2 hardware decoding...and 6200 without |
| [12:21:00] | dogbert: | do any of them perform _full_ decoding anyway? I've always been led to believe xvmc just 'helped' |
| [12:22:00] | ivor: | dogbert: all shades of grey. |
| [12:22:00] | ivor: | dx3 was about the only one that did full decoding I think. |
| [12:23:00] | [Jasper]: | all those specs got me a bit confused...some sites saying they do have it...some sites saying they don't |
| [12:23:00] | Dibblah: | ... The fully-featured DVB cards do full decoding. |
| [12:23:00] | [Jasper]: | I think it's just support from the card |
| [12:24:00] | ivor: | Dibblah: yeah I thought we were talking about video cards. :) |
| [12:24:00] | Dibblah: | You just feed in the raw mpeg stream and it squirts it out the video / audio connector. Same with the pvr350. |
| [12:24:00] | Dibblah: | How aren't they video cards? ;) |
| [12:25:00] | dogbert: | fully featured DVB cards aren't made anymore afaik |
| [12:25:00] | ivor: | Dibblah: true |
| [12:25:00] | [Jasper]: | but the question is...are there, or are there not nvidia cards with full mpeg2 hardware :P |
| [12:25:00] | dogbert: | ask nvidia |
| [12:26:00] | dogbert: | they make the chips, so they'd know & they'd always tell the truth, right? ;) |
| [12:26:00] | ivor: | wahahahahahahahhaaaaahahahaaa |
| [12:26:00] | [Jasper]: | :p\ |
| [12:27:00] | dogbert: | from the nvidia site, regarding 'purevideo': "With dedicated hardware to accelerate MPEG-2/DVD" |
| [12:27:00] | dogbert: | looks like they only assist then |
| [12:30:00] | dogbert: | still, on my 800mhz system xvmc took cpu usage down by a fair amount, and I only have an fx5200 |
| [12:31:00] | dogbert: | might not be _full_ decoding but it's worth having :-) |
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| [12:34:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Hello |
| [12:34:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Here'sa fun one : if my Myth box reboots without a keyboard plugged in, some of the buttons on the remote stop working. |
| [12:35:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Suggestions for tricking Linux into thinking a keyboard is plugged in at all times? |
| [12:36:00] | dogbert: | never had my frontend reboot cos it has no keyboard.. i dont think having a keyboard unplugged is the problem |
| [12:37:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | No, the problem is not that it's rebooting. The problem is, when I *choose* to reboot it, if I don't have a keyboard plugged in while it boots, some of the buttons on the remote (including OK and Exit) stop working. |
| [12:37:00] | dogbert: | eew |
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| [12:38:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | I'd guess it's something to do with the way the remote driver sends events through the keyboard. |
| [12:38:00] | dogbert: | you using irexec by any chance? irexec similautes keybaord presses doesn't it? no yeboard – nothing to simulate? |
| [12:38:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | But I'm not up for another marathon C hacking session to fix it. |
| [12:38:00] | dogbert: | yeboard? keyboard |
| [12:39:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | No, the driver just does it on it's own |
| [12:39:00] | ** fred_basset chews on dogberts yeboard... ** | |
| [12:40:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | The last time, it was buttons on the remote not working because they had no mapping values ; had to submit a kernal patch to get that one fixed. |
| [12:40:00] | ** dogbert unplugs & replugs keyboards with wild abandon to no apparent ill-effect, on a regular basis ** | |
| [12:40:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Yeah, once it's booted, you can unplug it |
| [12:40:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | It's just booting without one that causes it |
| [12:40:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Thing is, I've now got a USE for the keyboard. |
| [12:40:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Instead of just sitting behind my MythTV box.... |
| [12:40:00] | dogbert: | same on my frontend though – I sometimes plug a keyboard in |
| [12:41:00] | dogbert: | sometimes I don't.. works regardless |
| [12:41:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Bah. |
| [12:41:00] | dogbert: | can't think of any logical reason why X would care |
| [12:41:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | s'not X. |
| [12:41:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | It's the keyboard drivers, I think |
| [12:42:00] | dogbert: | is it a USB keyboard? |
| [12:42:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Because "OK" actually generates an "ENTER" keypress normally, but it stops when you unplug it. |
| [12:42:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | PS/2 |
| [12:43:00] | quitte: | thats a funny way to use lirc |
| [12:43:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Something about the ir-common module must abuse the keyboard driver to generate keypresses. And if you don't plug in a keyboard, it doesn't work anymore..... |
| [12:43:00] | dogbert: | I don't know enough about how linux treats keyboard devices to be able to help, obviously |
| [12:43:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | LIRC not involved for the "OK" key. Just weird ones like "NEXT_SONG". |
| [12:43:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Where there is an obvious mapping to a standard keyboard key, it's used. |
| [12:44:00] | tweak_st: | you check the lirc mailing archive? |
| [12:44:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Otherwise, LIRC maps it to the equivalent Myth keypress. Check out linux/drivers/media/common/ir-common.c |
| [12:44:00] | tweak_st: | maybe somebody else had your problem |
| [12:45:00] | dogbert: | it's hardly expected behaviour to only have a keyboard plugged in sometimes – it'd usually be one or the other |
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| [12:45:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | I'ts not an LIRC problem, because the buttons concerned don't go through LIRC |
| [12:46:00] | dogbert: | wha? |
| [12:46:00] | quitte: | could i use ok button as enter in my terminal when i have setup a remote and myth running? |
| [12:46:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | On my system, yes |
| [12:46:00] | dogbert: | ouch |
| [12:46:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Even wihtout myth or LIRC running |
| [12:46:00] | quitte: | thats clearly a bug |
| [12:46:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | It's the way the driver is implemented |
| [12:47:00] | quitte: | should only work with myth |
| [12:47:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | The driver generates keyboard impulses. |
| [12:47:00] | dogbert: | post your lircrc file |
| [12:47:00] | quitte: | so you type your gf grabs ir and pushes buttons and your system is fucked. hooray! |
| [12:47:00] | dogbert: | Dr_Barnowl: lirc tends to direct keypress events at applications |
| [12:47:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | I only admin it from a ssh terminal |
| [12:48:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | So that's not a problem. |
| [12:48:00] | quitte: | it is a potentially dangerous problem that you have to know to avoid. and it wouldnt come to anybodys mind before it happens that it might happen |
| [12:49:00] | dogbert: | what kind of remote is it? one of them things that sits in the keyboard area? |
| [12:49:00] | quitte: | i'd expect the ir to control myth even if it is running on a different terminal |
| [12:50:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | It's the stock remote from a Hauppauge WinTV-Nova-T PCI |
| [12:50:00] | dogbert: | the thing is. LIRC simulates keypresses IIRC. some IR receivers have to be cludged to work like keyboard devices |
| [12:51:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | .lircrc at http://pastebin.ca/41935 |
| [12:51:00] | dogbert: | you generally don't need to mess about with kernel shennanigans to get LIRC to operate |
| [12:51:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | I had to patch the driver because it was missing some of the button impulses rom the remote : my remote was a newer revision than the driver code. |
| [12:52:00] | dogbert: | ah |
| [12:52:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | It was making the kernal log show up things like "unknown keycode" |
| [12:52:00] | dogbert: | didn't irrecord work? |
| [12:52:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | It's an event device |
| [12:52:00] | Calroth: | are you sure you were even using lirc? |
| [12:52:00] | dogbert: | right... |
| [12:52:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Using lirc compiled in /dev/event mode |
| [12:52:00] | Calroth: | iirc, plugging the nova-t receiver in generated keypresses without even using lirc |
| [12:52:00] | dogbert: | yeh i can see how it's gone wrong now |
| [12:53:00] | Calroth: | i.e. if you turn off lirc and plug in your keyboard, the remote will (may) still work :-) |
| [12:53:00] | dogbert: | that's cludgy |
| [12:53:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Yeah, the remote behves like a keyboard |
| [12:53:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | With weird keys like "NEXT_SONG" – they're all defined in the kernel keyboard.h file |
| [12:54:00] | quitte: | is that normal lirc behaviour? |
| [12:54:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | LIRC is not involved |
| [12:54:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | AFK a mo |
| [12:54:00] | dogbert: | in your position I'd get a serial LIRC receiver |
| [12:54:00] | Calroth: | for what it's worth, I soldered together a serial port to ir adaptor for my nova-t remote, and use lirc_serial |
| [12:55:00] | quitte: | that really got me worried. but im happy again. |
| [12:55:00] | dogbert: | Calroth: doing it that way has the advantage you can use remotes other than hauppauge's crappy $0.20 thing ;-) |
| [12:55:00] | Calroth: | yeah – one less remote on the lounge table, you can re-use your tv remove |
| [12:56:00] | ** dogbert uses a custom-programmed OneForAll-6 ** | |
| [12:56:00] | Calroth: | assuming your tv will ignore the input when you're pointing it at the myth box ;-) |
| [12:56:00] | dogbert: | heh |
| [12:56:00] | quitte: | soldering iron fixes tv ir |
| [12:56:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | back.... I'm fine with it, I'm happy with the behaviour : apart from it not working when it boots without a keyboard plugged into the PS/2 port |
| [12:57:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | I mean, I hacked my way through the driver code and got a frickin' patch in the Linux Kernel, how many people can say that..... |
| [12:57:00] | quitte: | hmmm. even a drill could do it |
| [12:58:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | I just wondered if there was a way of telling the kernel "regardless of what the hardware says, you have a keyboard plugged in, so damn well behave like it" |
| [12:58:00] | ** quitte gets a hammer and goes out to fix his dish ** | |
| [12:58:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | I suppose there might be a BIOS option I can set.... |
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| [13:04:00] | [Jasper]: | time to do some soldering soon :P |
| [13:07:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Damn, now the f**ing thing wont even boot up |
| [13:08:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Bkloody mother in law, she's cursed it |
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| [13:10:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | This could be a problem |
| [13:10:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Another three weeks of hacking around with Gentoo *sob* |
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| [13:13:00] | [Jasper]: | I was wondering if it's possible to define a tv-watch size just like the mythtv gui size? |
| [13:14:00] | [Jasper]: | cuz when I select use gui size..it will still give me black bars... |
| [13:14:00] | [Jasper]: | and when I resize the gui too fall of the tv..it's kinda ugly |
| [13:14:00] | dogbert: | Jasper: I already told you – bump up the overscan so the black bars no longer appear on any channels, & resize the gui a tad |
| [13:15:00] | [Jasper]: | dogbert...but the tvchannels use the gui size at the moment |
| [13:15:00] | [Jasper]: | some channels have black bars..some don't |
| [13:15:00] | dogbert: | so? set them to not use the gui size |
| [13:15:00] | Beirdo: | so live with it |
| [13:15:00] | [Jasper]: | dogbert so you suggest..not use the gui size...make the overscan even larger...and then select gui size again? |
| [13:16:00] | [Jasper]: | set the gui size again even |
| [13:16:00] | ** dogbert puts a pistol against his head & pulls the trigger ** | |
| [13:16:00] | dogbert: | click! |
| [13:17:00] | dogbert: | dammit |
| [13:17:00] | quitte: | kaboom! |
| [13:17:00] | tweak_st: | you forgot the safety :) |
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| [13:17:00] | [Jasper]: | hmm I'll just wait for the new card then..cuz this aint gonna work |
| [13:18:00] | [Jasper]: | overscan is at max and still black bars.. |
| [13:18:00] | dogbert: | Jasper: you have black bars because broadcasters assume that you're overscanning |
| [13:18:00] | [Jasper]: | yes I know that |
| [13:18:00] | [Jasper]: | but I got a geforce2 not very good overscanning capabilites |
| [13:18:00] | laga: | you can adjust the overscan in mythtv as well. |
| [13:18:00] | [Jasper]: | I'll just wait for fx6200 |
| [13:19:00] | [Jasper]: | where laga? |
| [13:19:00] | dogbert: | in the tv playback setup menu |
| [13:19:00] | laga: | johnp_: it's in the settings |
| [13:23:00] | [Jasper]: | that solved it laga |
| [13:23:00] | [Jasper]: | overscan on 3 |
| [13:24:00] | laga: | :) |
| [13:24:00] | [Jasper]: | but now the channel bar on the bottom of the screen when you switch channels is a bit too big...can you also make that smaller? |
| [13:24:00] | [Jasper]: | I know..I'm demanding.. |
| [13:24:00] | [Jasper]: | :P |
| [13:25:00] | laga: | huh? i didn't know it gets bigger when you overscan in mythtv |
| [13:25:00] | dogbert: | 'trying' would be a better word ;-) |
| [13:27:00] | [Jasper]: | :p |
| [13:28:00] | [Jasper]: | it doesn't get bigger...but it falls of the screen :P |
| [13:28:00] | dogbert: | try a different OSD theme then |
| [13:28:00] | laga: | and it is normal if you don't use mythtv's overscans etting? |
| [13:30:00] | dogbert: | Jasper: what video mode are you using? |
| [13:31:00] | [Jasper]: | 800x600 |
| [13:31:00] | dogbert: | I can't change the amount of overscan in my video driver at all – merely enable & disable it |
| [13:32:00] | [Jasper]: | I use nvtv |
| [13:32:00] | dogbert: | Jasper: try other modes – there might be one that fits better |
| [13:32:00] | [Jasper]: | might wanna try 1024x768 |
| [13:32:00] | dogbert: | nvtv has lots of modes to try |
| [13:34:00] | Kyler: | Grrrr...I thought I finally had things working *so* well. This morning I saw that there was a buffer overrun at 6:43AM. Then I found the backend unresponsive. I restarted it and discovered that I didn't get any of my recordings from this morning – not even the one that would have been recording at 6:43. I also see that when I restarted there was a flurry of dropped data from the three encoders that started. Ug. |
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| [13:37:00] | psofa: | XvMCWrapper: Could not open config file "XConfigDir/XvMCConfig". |
| [13:37:00] | psofa: | XvMCWrapper: No such file or directory |
| [13:38:00] | psofa: | im using modular xorg |
| [13:38:00] | Dibblah: | Anyone got a uirt2? |
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| [13:40:00] | dogbert: | kaboom |
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| [13:45:00] | laga: | psofa: i've seen that message before. search either http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ or |
| [13:45:00] | laga: | MythLogBot: help |
| [13:45:00] | Beirdo: | morning, laga |
| [13:46:00] | laga: | afternoon Beirdo :) |
| [13:46:00] | Beirdo: | my bot is alive... |
| [13:46:00] | Beirdo: | still got work to do on it, but it's getting close |
| [13:47:00] | Beirdo: | just needs the web frontend soon :) |
| [13:47:00] | Dibblah: | What revision is your bot? |
| [13:47:00] | laga: | Beirdo: awesome :) |
| [13:47:00] | Beirdo: | the one I'm writing? SVN revision 39 |
| [13:48:00] | tweak_st: | MythLogBot: commands |
| [13:48:00] | Beirdo: | sorry: 40 |
| [13:48:00] | Beirdo: | not this bot |
| [13:48:00] | Dibblah: | Damn. Number 5.... Alive! wouldn't quite work, then. |
| [13:48:00] | Beirdo: | this is a POS Java-based one |
| [13:48:00] | laga: | Dibblah: hehe, yep. let's just call him frankenstein instead ;) |
| [13:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'm writing a trim one in C |
| [13:48:00] | tweak_st: | lol java bots rule |
| [13:49:00] | Beirdo: | nothing about Java rules for bots |
| [13:49:00] | Beirdo: | Java is a bloated POS |
| [13:49:00] | tweak_st: | for network stuff, you cant go wrong with java |
| [13:49:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i'm gonna teach myself C soon. i plan on getting an 'asuro' robot so i have to know C in order to program it's microprocessor :) |
| [13:49:00] | Beirdo: | I see no reason that the bot here (which just logs) should take about 40M in memory |
| [13:49:00] | tweak_st: | but for computation intensive stuff i would look elsewhere |
| [13:49:00] | Beirdo: | Java is shite |
| [13:50:00] | Beirdo: | the one I'm working on takes 1.4M in memory currently |
| [13:50:00] | tweak_st: | memory is cheap these days |
| [13:50:00] | Beirdo: | and that's logging 4 channels across three servers, and with much more functionality |
| [13:50:00] | Beirdo: | no it isn't |
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| [13:51:00] | laga: | Beirdo: make that four. #mythtv-de ;) |
| [13:51:00] | znoG: | hi guys, is it normal for nuvexport to take over 24 hours to export a video? |
| [13:51:00] | Beirdo: | it's currently running on 2 channels on this network, one on oftc, and one on a test server at home |
| [13:51:00] | znoG: | i can rip a DVD to XviD in less than half the time |
| [13:51:00] | Dibblah: | Ummm... That's cos Java by default uses 32Mb for the heap, if I remember right. |
| [13:51:00] | Beirdo: | Java is shite for stuff this simple |
| [13:52:00] | psofa: | does myth compress or alters in anyway the livetv dvb-s stream when the frontnend is remote? |
| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [13:53:00] | Dibblah: | Bierdo: http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.0/performance/jvm-tuning.xtp |
| [13:53:00] | psofa: | lol it looks crap on my lcd compared to my crappy old tv |
| [13:53:00] | psofa: | even with deinterlace |
| [13:53:00] | laga: | hmm, bier *drool* |
| [13:53:00] | Beirdo: | the best way to tune java: find / -name java -exec rm {}; |
| [13:54:00] | Beirdo: | bye bye, java |
| [13:54:00] | Dibblah: | That's the problem with LCDs at the moment. Cheap CRT is MUCH better than cheap LCD. |
| [13:54:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not interested in tuning the current bot. Only in replacing it with something more useful |
| [13:55:00] | psofa: | Dibblah, but games look better on my lcd than my previous crt |
| [13:56:00] | Beirdo: | laga: got regular expression matching into it last night :) |
| [13:56:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [13:56:00] | laga: | Beirdo: so it wreaks havoc if i write 'softcam'? |
| [13:56:00] | Beirdo: | if you make such a plugin, sure |
| [13:57:00] | laga: | yay |
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| [14:01:00] | Dibblah: | Why would softcam upset it? |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | because we like garden gnomes better |
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| [14:03:00] | Layer01 is now known as Layer01_zzz | |
| [14:05:00] | dogbert: | could we possibly have auto-kicking for mentioning s**tc**s ? |
| [14:07:00] | Dibblah: | Don't see why softcams are all that useful, though. Do they just make up the image? |
| [14:07:00] | Beirdo: | shit whats? ;) |
| [14:07:00] | Beirdo: | auto-kicking would be a bit extreme |
| [14:07:00] | dogbert: | people jumping to conclusions that mythtv is about hacking TV is extreme too |
| [14:08:00] | laga: | yeah, this is not ircnet ;) |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | now, auto mode q... |
| [14:08:00] | Dibblah: | No. Auto kick-ban would be extreme. |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | for 5 minutes or something |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | that would be cool |
| [14:08:00] | dogbert: | auto-report to MPAA :-D |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | or auto-ban, no kick |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | for a limited time |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | that would shut em up (if the ircd works right) |
| [14:09:00] | laga: | err. no. such actions should be taken manually, not by a bot. sometimes users just don't know that we don't wanna talk about it even if it's (semi-)legal in their county |
| [14:10:00] | Dibblah: | Softcams are legal. Emulators are not. |
| [14:10:00] | ivor: | but it would be funny if you banned laga for saying hey another idiot talking about softcams on the forum. |
| [14:10:00] | dogbert: | oops |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | silencing em, and sending a message saying that the topic is verboten in the channel, then unsilencing em later would be cool |
| [14:10:00] | Dibblah: | But that's a discussion for other places... |
| [14:10:00] | laga: | ivor: yep. |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | and yeah, that's why auto-kick is bad |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | auto-trouting... we can handle |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:10:00] | laga: | Beirdo: no. we don't need a robot for that. yelling at them is sufficient. |
| [14:11:00] | ivor: | that bash log of the bot getting kicked from the christian channel is funny. |
| [14:11:00] | laga: | ivor: yep. |
| [14:11:00] | Dibblah: | ? |
| [14:11:00] | ivor: | um, let me see if I can find the link. |
| [14:12:00] | synmoo: | ivor: http://www.bash.org/?178890 |
| [14:12:00] | ivor: | heh snap, I'd just copied it to the clipboard. |
| [14:12:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, that bash.org entry made me laugh |
| [14:13:00] | synmoo: | one of the classics for sure. |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | a fine example of auto-kick-ban gone awry |
| [14:13:00] | ivor: | but oh so funny |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | well, I guess I should start heading to work |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [14:15:00] | synmoo: | You could be like me, already at work. |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | or I could be like me... lying on the couch when I should be at work |
| [14:16:00] | Dibblah: | http://www.bash.org/?612055 |
| [14:16:00] | laga: | or you could be like me..already in the weekend. |
| [14:16:00] | Dibblah: | Oh dear. Thanks for that. |
| [14:16:00] | synmoo: | Well, if you have to be at work, IRC is a great way to kill the time. |
| [14:16:00] | dogbert: | or.. not so great |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | so true |
| [14:17:00] | laga: | synmoo: and if you have to be at home, it's a great way to waste your youth ;) |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | seeya in a bit |
| [14:17:00] | dogbert: | see ya later Beirdo |
| [14:17:00] | dogbert: | laga: at least IRC doesn't make you go blind, so there's that I suppose |
| [14:18:00] | dogbert: | hmmm .. blind or mad.. which'd you rather be? ;-) |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | good-looking, mentally stable, single: choose two. that's how IRC is. :) |
| [14:18:00] | ** laga is good-looking and mentally stable (more or less), thank god ** | |
| [14:19:00] | Cromz: | irc can make you go blind.. if your font is too small :O |
| [14:19:00] | laga: | or if you terminal is transparent and you have the wrong wallpaper |
| [14:20:00] | Cromz: | lol ya that too |
| [14:20:00] | dogbert: | must just be being married driving me insane then |
| [14:21:00] | laga: | uh, yeah |
| [14:22:00] | synmoo: | laga: Agreed. I'm only on IRC when I: 1. Should be doing something else (working.) 2. Trying to fix a problem with something. |
| [14:22:00] | Cromz: | so last night I felt like such a newb. I got .19 fully working, transcoding and everything. then the system acted alittle dumb. rebooted and no more logging in. disk full error. doh! forget where myth was putting temp files for dvd ripping. |
| [14:22:00] | Cromz: | its all better now :) |
| [14:23:00] | laga: | hehe. was probably just caffeine depirvation ;) |
| [14:23:00] | laga: | deprivation* |
| [14:24:00] | Cromz: | I blame it on my age and being married. duh.. which dir did it go george? |
| [14:25:00] | Cromz: | got smrt after that and ssh to the box, did a locate mythdvd and found like 26 gig of .vobs it was saving for later.. :/ |
| [14:25:00] | dogbert: | haven't felt mentally up to the job of upgrading all week |
| [14:26:00] | dogbert: | even though it should be a piece of **** |
| [14:27:00] | Cromz: | dogbert, when I built this last time. I basicly went lazy and used yum install mythtv-suite. didn't get all the libs and devs. :/ lol wow. got'em now tho. |
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| [14:34:00] | ** dogbert will mostly be compiling 0.19 on the backend for dvb radio & EIT patch ** | |
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| [14:34:00] | dogbert: | btw laga – I read a rumour about there now being mods for a dbox2 IDE interface! |
| [14:35:00] | laga: | dogbert: really? awesome :) i've gotta google that later. with the dboxI, you could attach a scsi disk, i believe (with hacked firmware, of course) |
| [14:36:00] | dogbert: | pparently on the Sagem boxes you more or less just fit a connector |
| [14:36:00] | synmoo: | I installed .19 clean last night. Used Jarod Wilson's Fedora howto. It's very complete! Time consuming, but walked through the whole process very well! I've got a small punch list now: overscan, slow remote, pvr-150 capturing in mono, pvr-150 color a little washed out, zap2it listings working |
| [14:36:00] | dogbert: | the nokia boxes are more involved though |
| [14:36:00] | laga: | dogbert: darn, i have a nokia one :) |
| [14:37:00] | dogbert: | if mine continues to behave the way it has been, I won't have one much longer |
| [14:37:00] | synmoo: | running mythfilldb, zap2it is giving me 401 so I need to figure out how to get an account setup for that I assume. I setup a regular listings account but that doesn't seem to be where I need to set things up with zap2it |
| [14:37:00] | laga: | dogbert: hehe, does it keep crashing? and did we talk before about the dboxen? |
| [14:38:00] | laga: | synmoo: take a look at the mythtv howto at www.mythtv.org |
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| [14:38:00] | laga: | oh. |
| [14:38:00] | laga: | heh. |
| [14:38:00] | laga: | *cough* |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | stuarta said I was being evil, so I decided to change nick for a bit |
| [14:38:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [14:39:00] | psofa: | what dpi should my 1280x1024 lcd have? |
| [14:40:00] | juski: | everyone should be running mythtv @ 100 DPI as documented by the FM |
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| [14:40:00] | dogbert: | that's better |
| [14:40:00] | psofa: | are you serious? |
| [14:41:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [14:41:00] | synmoo: | Where do I go to establish an account with DataDirect? |
| [14:41:00] | dogbert: | it doesn't make much, if any difference in my experience |
| [14:41:00] | synmoo: | google hasn't been particularly helpful |
| [14:42:00] | dogbert: | my forehead is getting bloodier by the minute |
| [14:42:00] | Cromz: | didn't reconize you. lol you still ok in my book :P |
| [14:43:00] | ** laga is currently fiddling with the tv-out of the darn pundit again. POS. ** | |
| [14:43:00] | dogbert: | synmoo: er.. hmmm let's see. to sign up to a service would it not be logical to visit said service's homepage? |
| [14:43:00] | laga: | dogbert: relax, it's friday :) |
| [14:43:00] | ivor: | he's quite grumpy today isn't he |
| [14:43:00] | dogbert: | and revelling in it :-D |
| [14:43:00] | laga: | yep, grumpier than usual |
| [14:43:00] | Elbonian: | s/today//# |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | Elbonian: hehe |
| [14:44:00] | dogbert: | I enjoy being mardy some days |
| [14:44:00] | Elbonian: | He's our friendly channel curmudgeon. |
| [14:45:00] | dogbert: | a rottweiler crossed with a st bernard? |
| [14:45:00] | Cromz: | omg! mythweather says it's -7 here now.. and it feels colder.. had to go start my car get it warming. :/ |
| [14:45:00] | dogbert: | maybe not that severe |
| [14:45:00] | synmoo: | dogbert: that would be logical, but I'm having difficulty finding said homepage.....got it now. had to twist my search terms a bit. |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | Elbonian: i thought that was beirdo. |
| [14:45:00] | synmoo: | It's 14 here. Warm as hell for fricken Feb |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | Cromz: heh. i'm too late, usually, so i have to sit in a cold car ;) |
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| [15:11:00] | tweak_st: | ah crap didnt compile xine with lirc...bah |
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| [15:15:00] | chuckyp: | Okay need a little help with getting the program guide to display the right time. |
| [15:17:00] | chuckyp: | I'm in Ohio using Eastern Standard Time. System clock in bios is set for current time here. Mythtv shows the time as being five hours ahead. |
| [15:17:00] | chuckyp: | and program guide data is five hours behind the actual time here not system time. |
| [15:18:00] | chuckyp: | So how do I even come close to sorting this out. |
| [15:18:00] | Kelerion: | theres an option in the frontend->setup to specify a time offset |
| [15:18:00] | Kelerion: | I seem to recall |
| [15:18:00] | synmoo: | Does the system clock think it's UTC? |
| [15:18:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, yes |
| [15:18:00] | chuckyp: | Kelerion, I've looked and can't find that. |
| [15:18:00] | synmoo: | thats the problem |
| [15:18:00] | synmoo: | if in the bios the clock is set for local time |
| [15:18:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, Okay so how do I fix that? |
| [15:19:00] | synmoo: | and the system thinks this time is UTC |
| [15:19:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, like the results of date show 5+ hrs of current time and say UTC |
| [15:19:00] | dogbert: | what' |
| [15:20:00] | dogbert: | what's your local time say? |
| [15:20:00] | dogbert: | and what timezone is your system set to? |
| [15:20:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, I just set the timezone via tzone or whatever to Eastern |
| [15:20:00] | dogbert: | ah ok |
| [15:20:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, but the system clock still thinks its in utc |
| [15:20:00] | synmoo: | yeah but the box thinks it's time is UTC |
| [15:21:00] | synmoo: | then applies the timezone adjustment to that |
| [15:21:00] | dogbert: | .. if it's set to the right timezone |
| [15:21:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, Shouldn't the bios time be set to my local time? |
| [15:22:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, Or should I set it to UTC |
| [15:22:00] | dogbert: | set the BIOS time to local time |
| [15:22:00] | synmoo: | well the timezone the box is in.. and whether or not the box thinks it's in UTC are differen |
| [15:22:00] | dogbert: | set the linux timezone to be where you are |
| [15:22:00] | synmoo: | if the box thinks the system clock is set to UTC, it will apply the timezone setting to that |
| [15:22:00] | synmoo: | if the box knows that it's clock is NOT UTC |
| [15:22:00] | synmoo: | it will NOT apply the timezone correction to normal time |
| [15:22:00] | synmoo: | so two options: |
| [15:23:00] | synmoo: | well 3 |
| [15:23:00] | synmoo: | 1. set the system clock to UTC |
| [15:23:00] | synmoo: | 2. tell the box that the system clock is local time, not UTC |
| [15:23:00] | synmoo: | or 3. set your timezone to GMT/UTC |
| [15:23:00] | chuckyp: | Okay how do we do option 2 |
| [15:24:00] | synmoo: | I know how to do it during the initial box install, but not after the fact. :-) |
| [15:24:00] | dogbert: | make a symlink from the right place in /usr/share/zoneinfo to /etc/local/timezone ? |
| [15:25:00] | dogbert: | oops |
| [15:25:00] | synmoo: | Just set your clock in the BIOS to UTC. All will magically be fixed and the time will still be shown correctly. |
| [15:25:00] | dogbert: | ls -al /etc/localtime |
| [15:25:00] | dogbert: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jun 24 2005 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/GB |
| [15:26:00] | dogbert: | synmoo: yes, but what about DST? how would that be handled in UTC? |
| [15:26:00] | synmoo: | the timezone settings would handle that |
| [15:27:00] | synmoo: | set your timezone to eastern and use daylight when appropriate and it will adjust the times that are show to you from UTC |
| [15:27:00] | dogbert: | for such a seemingly simple thing, it's complicated isn't it? ;-) |
| [15:27:00] | ** Kelerion is glad he's in the uk.. no messing them :) ** | |
| [15:27:00] | synmoo: | it really is |
| [15:27:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, The reason I didn't use the timezone thing during setup is because it thinks the hardware clock is UTC |
| [15:27:00] | synmoo: | the idea is that all systems in the world should be at UTC |
| [15:28:00] | synmoo: | right |
| [15:28:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, So it would be -5hrs behind what the current time is if I used it. |
| [15:28:00] | dogbert: | and all time is a positive integer, where zero is midnight, jan 1st 1970... heh |
| [15:29:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, So the way it should be fixed is setting the hardware clock to UTC |
| [15:29:00] | synmoo: | chuckyp: That's probably the easiest way, yes. |
| [15:29:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, But thats not going to fix the problem because it will add 5 hours to that. Which is wrong |
| [15:29:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, It needs to subtract 5 hours. |
| [15:29:00] | synmoo: | wait your listings are 5 hours ahead or 5 behind? |
| [15:30:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, Here its 10:30hrs right now here mythtv is showing 15:30hrs. and the program guide is showing data for 0530hrs. if that makes any sense to you. |
| [15:30:00] | synmoo: | chuckyp: wtf |
| [15:30:00] | chuckyp: | so program data is 5 hours behind current time. |
| [15:31:00] | chuckyp: | mythtv is 5 hours ahead of current time. |
| [15:31:00] | synmoo: | wow |
| [15:31:00] | chuckyp: | lol |
| [15:31:00] | chuckyp: | exactly |
| [15:31:00] | synmoo: | ok lets fix one at ttime |
| [15:31:00] | synmoo: | set your bios for UTC |
| [15:31:00] | synmoo: | lol |
| [15:31:00] | chuckyp: | alright |
| [15:31:00] | chuckyp: | lets try that and reboot hold up |
| [15:31:00] | synmoo: | hold on |
| [15:31:00] | chuckyp: | have to run across the room |
| [15:31:00] | chuckyp: | k holding |
| [15:31:00] | synmoo: | what time does the clock say in gnome/kde whatever on the task bar? |
| [15:32:00] | chuckyp: | let me check |
| [15:32:00] | chuckyp: | time on task bar is 1532 |
| [15:32:00] | chuckyp: | so 5 hours plus |
| [15:33:00] | dogbert: | you're on Uk time :-) |
| [15:33:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Yes i'm on UTC |
| [15:33:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Hence the problem |
| [15:33:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, It should be on EST |
| [15:33:00] | dogbert: | ahhh.. UTC = greenwich? |
| [15:33:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, yes |
| [15:33:00] | dogbert: | so nice they picked us |
| [15:34:00] | synmoo: | well you're the prime meridian or whatever. :-) |
| [15:34:00] | dogbert: | figures.. not on form today |
| [15:34:00] | synmoo: | chuckyp: ok set the bios clock to UTC so 1532 and we'll go from there |
| [15:34:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, Okay let me do that. Plus I don't even want to know what ntp is going to do at 4 am |
| [15:35:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: ntp should be okay |
| [15:36:00] | chuckyp: | Okay does nix have the ability to change the bios time or hardware time? |
| [15:36:00] | dogbert: | iirc, you set your time to what the local timezone is at install time, then set the time to what the local time is |
| [15:37:00] | chuckyp: | Because I just checked it and it was UTC so I'm changing it to local time. |
| [15:37:00] | dogbert: | then when you shut down it sets your BIOS time to current system time |
| [15:37:00] | dogbert: | no hang on.. I'll STFU |
| [15:38:00] | dogbert: | aha.. |
| [15:38:00] | dogbert: | http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html |
| [15:38:00] | dogbert: | [#mythtv-users] |
| [15:39:00] | dogbert: | When Linux boots, one of the initialisation scripts will run the /sbin/hwclock program to copy the current hardware clock time to the system clock. hwclock will assume the hardware clock is set to local time unless it is run with the --utc switch. |
| [15:39:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, Okay set the bios time to "local time" (it was UTC for some reason). And now the time in myth and one the taskbar is correct. |
| [15:39:00] | synmoo: | awesome |
| [15:39:00] | synmoo: | now reboot to make sure it stays that way |
| [15:39:00] | synmoo: | :-) |
| [15:39:00] | dogbert: | and I learnt a little about how linux time works |
| [15:40:00] | chuckyp: | k |
| [15:41:00] | dogbert: | little tip for yous... if you have different frontends, it helps a lot to have them all get their time via ntp to avoid playback issues |
| [15:41:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, I'm rebooting now I'm sure it will stay that way atleast until crontab runs NTP at 4am |
| [15:41:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, But we'll check anyways |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | dogbert: why would that mess with playback? |
| [15:41:00] | dogbert: | laga: the way myth worked out its playback timing I think |
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| [15:42:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
| [15:42:00] | dogbert: | put it this way my frontend didn't have its timezone set & it was just freewheeling.. couldn't seek through recordings |
| [15:42:00] | dogbert: | fixed timezone & got ntp going – all was well suddenly |
| [15:43:00] | Elbonian: | That seems mad. |
| [15:43:00] | dogbert: | that's what I thought. but it fixed it |
| [15:43:00] | Elbonian: | Fair enough, but there must be some wacky code in there. |
| [15:44:00] | Elbonian: | What if your house straddled a timezone? |
| [15:44:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, Okay on reboot time stayed correct; now just the program guide is behind 5 hours. |
| [15:44:00] | dogbert: | I think it's because myth uses absolute timestamps |
| [15:46:00] | dogbert: | (if it does it might explain it anyway) |
| [15:46:00] | chuckyp: | synmoo, So now how do we fix the programguide data? |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | dogbert: i should set up ntp then :) |
| [15:47:00] | dogbert: | laga: newer versions of minimyth chuck their guts if you don't tell em a timeserver |
| [15:47:00] | dogbert: | apparently it's really important that the timing be close to the backend |
| [15:47:00] | laga: | dogbert: sounds like a fragile distro |
| [15:47:00] | chuckyp: | I think I'm jsut going to reinstall |
| [15:48:00] | dogbert: | laga: my gentoo frontend was the same |
| [15:48:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: no no no... :-) |
| [15:48:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Okay well then how would I get the programguide correct? |
| [15:48:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: if the guide data was grabbed & your TZ was wrong... |
| [15:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: BRiefly, waiting for a call |
| [15:49:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: no worries i gotta go now... |
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| [15:49:00] | chuckyp: | histo@mythtv:~$ date |
| [15:49:00] | chuckyp: | Fri Feb 17 10:48:53 UTC 2006 |
| [15:49:00] | chuckyp: | That is the results of date. |
| [15:49:00] | dogbert: | so grab your epg data again & see how it goes then |
| [15:49:00] | chuckyp: | UTC is wrong but if I change the timezone it will mess up the time, SO I have to set the bios to UTC and select a timezone somehow. |
| [15:50:00] | dogbert: | myth thinks it's the right time, right |
| [15:50:00] | dogbert: | system thinks its the right time |
| [15:50:00] | chuckyp: | system does not think its the right time. |
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| [15:50:00] | chuckyp: | I'm in the US not in the UK the hours are right but timezone is wrong. If I pull guide data right now it will still be five hours behind. |
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| [15:51:00] | dogbert: | my weekend upgrade is doomed if I can't grasp this one |
| [15:51:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, So what do you want me to do re-run mythfilldatabase? |
| [15:51:00] | rjune: | chuckyp: what distro? |
| [15:51:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, i.e. go into mythtv-setup and blow out channel data then re-run it. |
| [15:51:00] | dogbert: | don't take any of my advice today ;-) |
| [15:51:00] | chuckyp: | rjune, knoppmyth its debian based. |
| [15:51:00] | threat: | sooooo, is there a debian package for mythtv? |
| [15:51:00] | threat: | chuckyp, is there? |
| [15:51:00] | rjune: | dunno how to set time there3 |
| [15:52:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: how did the time end up wrong anyway? select the wrong TZ at install time? |
| [15:52:00] | chuckyp: | threat, I don't know knoppmyth is a distro designed with mythtv built in etc... |
| [15:52:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, yes |
| [15:53:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: I'll pull that page I posted earlier |
| [15:53:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, I didn't select a timezone at install time. I just told it to leave the setting alone becuase If i select a timezone it will put it 5 hours behind current time. Because it thinks the bios is UTC. |
| [15:54:00] | chuckyp: | I'm completely lost. |
| [15:54:00] | dogbert: | so am I LOL |
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| [15:55:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Here's the way I think it should be and is on every other install. BIOS time should be set to local time. Right? |
| [15:55:00] | dogbert: | we're not really UTC all year round in the UK.. |
| [15:55:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: yup |
| [15:55:00] | threat: | chuckyp, yeah, buts its an complete distro |
| [15:56:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Okay then during the install if I select eastern time. For the time zone. it changes it to -5hours behind the BIOS time. You still with me? |
| [15:57:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Hence why I didn't do that. Because then I would have to set the bios to UTC the software to EST and pray that the program data was correct and that NTP would function properly. |
| [15:57:00] | threat: | b |
| [15:57:00] | dogbert: | no it wouldn't do that |
| [15:57:00] | dogbert: | if your TZ is set right & you use ntp, then surely you'll end up with the right time |
| [15:58:00] | scopeuk: | its like one of the spec opps guns |
| [15:58:00] | dogbert: | linux uses the TZ info to work out your offset from UTC |
| [15:58:00] | dogbert: | NTP info is in UTC |
| [15:58:00] | Elbonian: | dogbert: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005KJJ9 Nice and cheap :-) |
| [15:58:00] | dogbert: | therefore... :-) |
| [15:58:00] | scopeuk: | sorry wrong chan |
| [15:59:00] | dogbert: | Elbonian: ohh 'high speed' USB cables? bet they move fast at that price too ;-) |
| [15:59:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Okay then my problem began that my timezone Is not set and I ran ntp which updated the BIOS time to UTC. and since my timezone isn't set it is using UTC instead of subtracint the hours. |
| [15:59:00] | dogbert: | so set your timezone already |
| [15:59:00] | dogbert: | ntp sets _system_ time not bios time |
| [16:00:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, NTP sets BIOS time trust me it just did. |
| [16:00:00] | dogbert: | how do you know that? |
| [16:01:00] | dogbert: | cos when you shut your system down, your BIOS clock gets set to the current time to make sure it keeps track during the time your machine's powered off |
| [16:01:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, because if I run ntp it changes the bios time and adds 5 hours it thinks the clock is 5 hours behind. |
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| [16:01:00] | Elbonian: | dogbert: A friend just suggested that I buy 1000 and sell them for £2.50 each on eBay. |
| [16:01:00] | Elbonian: | I may do it if I can be bothere! |
| [16:01:00] | dogbert: | Elbonian: set up a carboot in PC world carpark :-D |
| [16:02:00] | dogbert: | USB cables.. £10.. half price! |
| [16:02:00] | quitte: | dogbert: ntp doesn't set bios time. maybe your shutdown scrits do. |
| [16:02:00] | quitte: | err chuckyp ^ |
| [16:02:00] | dogbert: | quitte: I just bloomin said that |
| [16:02:00] | dogbert: | quite, quitte ;-) |
| [16:02:00] | quitte: | dogbert: im just backing you |
| [16:03:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Okay well the question still is how do I tell nix that this box is in EST |
| [16:03:00] | dogbert: | wait a bloody minute here chuckyp |
| [16:03:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, because it still thinks its in UTC |
| [16:03:00] | dogbert: | set your BIOS time to your local time or whatever. it doesn't matter |
| [16:03:00] | quitte: | chuckyp: tzconfig |
| [16:03:00] | dogbert: | set up your timezone, then set the time & date with the _date_ command |
| [16:04:00] | chuckyp: | quitte, I've tried tzconfig not working. |
| [16:04:00] | quitte: | chuckyp: how does it not work? |
| [16:04:00] | chuckyp: | quitte, Well i've told it est and when I type date in it still thnks its UTC |
| [16:05:00] | chuckyp: | quitte, here watch. |
| [16:05:00] | quitte: | chuckyp: when i run it i get told my current timezone was Europe/Berlin and im asked wether i wanted to change that |
| [16:05:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: knoppmyth isn't having its timezone setting stored in /usr/lib/timezone is it? |
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| [16:06:00] | chuckyp: | quitte, Okay now tzconfig worked but the time is wrong. |
| [16:06:00] | dogbert: | chuckyp: so use the date command to put it right |
| [16:06:00] | quitte: | chuckyp: use ntdate then |
| [16:06:00] | dogbert: | then do ntpdate |
| [16:07:00] | quitte: | dogbert: nt doesnt have that problem wher time has to be close. it will even change years now |
| [16:07:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, need a server let me get one hold up |
| [16:07:00] | quitte: | pppp |
| [16:08:00] | quitte: | chuckyp: tock.fh-augsburg.de |
| [16:08:00] | dogbert: | ntp2.ja.net |
| [16:08:00] | dogbert: | use 2 or more – get the benefit |
| [16:08:00] | chuckyp: | okay now the time is proper |
| [16:08:00] | dogbert: | w00t |
| [16:08:00] | chuckyp: | jesus |
| [16:08:00] | dogbert: | I'm exhausted |
| [16:08:00] | quitte: | chuckyp: and then use hwclock --systohc to set bios time |
| [16:09:00] | dogbert: | quitte: tempting fate there |
| [16:09:00] | quitte: | huh? |
| [16:09:00] | chuckyp: | okay back to prompt and time is still correct |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | actually, you should go to ntp.org to find a list of open NTP servers, not just choose randomly |
| [16:09:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, Yeah I have crontab set to use a server near me. |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | without express permission, you may be abusing their systems, and that can cause... issues |
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| [16:10:00] | quitte: | Beirdo: did that some time ago. unless they changed policy that one was ok |
| [16:10:00] | chuckyp: | quitte, Okay it returned to prompt and time is still correct |
| [16:10:00] | dev-: | or just use pool.ntp.org |
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| [16:10:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, or just use the pool :) |
| [16:10:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, I went to their site and I'm using a public server that is close to me. |
| [16:10:00] | Beirdo: | but the concept of permission still remains :) |
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| [16:10:00] | Beirdo: | good to know that people are trying to be careful and play by the rules... |
| [16:11:00] | chuckyp: | dogbert, Alright i'm trying a restart now and see if it still stays good. |
| [16:11:00] | dev-: | i dunno, if its in pool they forfiet their right to restriction ;p |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | but others may need the reminder :) |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | the pool is there as open servers, that's why they did that. |
| [16:11:00] | dev-: | yup yup |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | I personally use a router at my ISP |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | but they told me to :) |
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| [16:18:00] | chuckyp: | Okay, Now all that needs fixed is the program data is 5 hours behind. |
| [16:19:00] | phoner2: | anyone use mythstream to get radio streams? |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | run mythtv-setup and tell it to clear the data, then rerun mythfilldatabase |
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| [16:19:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, Gotcha |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | likely the fastest way to fix that once your time is fixed |
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| [16:30:00] | Yellow-Snow: | sup all |
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| [16:34:00] | dogbert: | time to emerge --sync – upgrade is go for tonight, I've had enough pontificating |
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| [17:04:00] | juski: | time to bite the bullet |
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| [17:22:00] | juski: | time to get the new minimyth... |
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| [17:23:00] | xpis: | minimyth? |
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| [17:24:00] | to3cutt3r: | is anyone using mythflix? |
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| [17:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea what is minimyth |
| [17:27:00] | juski: | xpis: if I had £1 for evry time somebody has said that :-P |
| [17:28:00] | juski: | www.linpvr.org |
| [17:28:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: fear my Xgl |
| [17:30:00] | praet: | wow i just realized .19 is out |
| [17:30:00] | juski: | ROFL |
| [17:31:00] | praet: | well the topic gets cut off in irssi |
| [17:31:00] | praet: | :) |
| [17:32:00] | xris: | praet: it doesn't print into the channel when you log in, too? |
| [17:32:00] | juski: | pay attention, 007 |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | i use /topic to display it completely when i feel like it |
| [17:33:00] | juski: | I've quit the emerge (bottled it). sticking with 0.18 for a bit longer |
| [17:33:00] | praet: | joined on feb 10th.. in irssi it has a bunch of status that say > Day changed to 11 Feb 2006 etc |
| [17:34:00] | praet: | well i see that saving the buffer works |
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| [17:35:00] | laga: | juski: why's that? |
| [17:35:00] | juski: | laga: too scared! |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | juski: poor juski. :/ |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | hehe :) |
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| [17:36:00] | juski: | I felt like this with 0.18 when it came out too, but I wasn't so dependent on myth then |
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| [17:36:00] | praet: | anyone running it? |
| [17:36:00] | juski: | no praet. nobody is runing 0.19 |
| [17:36:00] | praet: | << still in .16 land on the home machine |
| [17:37:00] | praet: | juski, i thought you were in svn land |
| [17:37:00] | juski: | I was, but not on my main system |
| [17:37:00] | praet: | im working on a new sys and ill probably try .19 |
| [17:37:00] | praet: | mythweb should be interesting |
| [17:37:00] | juski: | you're in for a shock, coming from 0.16 |
| [17:38:00] | praet: | well that is the main home machine.. |
| [17:38:00] | juski: | I might take this in stages... |
| [17:38:00] | praet: | this new box has been .18.1 and ive also tried the pseudo .19 knoppix release |
| [17:39:00] | praet: | juski, you go first.. |
| [17:39:00] | juski: | my minimyth is on 0.18.1.2 and the current stable version of that is 0.18.1.11 – loads of config file changes |
| [17:39:00] | juski: | I tried getting a later version to work but got very lost |
| [17:39:00] | praet: | hrmm.. why minimyth? |
| [17:40:00] | juski: | diskless, ready-made |
| [17:40:00] | praet: | are you using it as a temp frontend? |
| [17:40:00] | juski: | very optimised too |
| [17:40:00] | juski: | no – permanent frontend |
| [17:41:00] | juski: | if I upgrade to 0.19 on the backend, frontend needs to follow. if the frontend can't be got working I'm screwed for a while |
| [17:41:00] | praet: | in that case i would stick to what is working now... dont want to play with protocol mismatches and such |
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| [17:41:00] | BeanHead905: | hi all |
| [17:41:00] | BeanHead905: | xris – you there? |
| [17:41:00] | praet: | lo BeanHead905 |
| [17:43:00] | juski: | what's the worst that can happen? I've backed up my DB today. stop mythbackend.. emerge the new stuff... make a new dir for minimyth & point the PXE config @ that.. if it goes pearshaped, dump the DB, unmerge mythtv etc, re-emerge 0.18 & copy the old minimyth back |
| [17:43:00] | Elbonian: | Nice plan :-) |
| [17:43:00] | praet: | the worst would be all that wasted time... |
| [17:44:00] | praet: | lets think of what you could do insteat |
| [17:44:00] | juski: | I can live with that |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | Heya, Cardoe |
| [17:44:00] | juski: | I could hang round here helpingthe hopeless |
| [17:44:00] | juski: | emerge! |
| [17:44:00] | praet: | egads. |
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| [17:44:00] | Kelerion: | urgh |
| [17:45:00] | Kelerion: | anyone have any ideas what this means? |
| [17:45:00] | Kelerion: | dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to |
| [17:45:00] | Kelerion: | when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx' |
| [17:45:00] | Kelerion: | found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' |
| [17:45:00] | DGnome: | juski: fyi, the problem with the remote was within 0.19 SVN, stable 0.19 works flawlessly :) |
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| [17:45:00] | juski: | DGnome: that's good to know |
| [17:45:00] | sanmarcos: | I just told myth to transcode my recording, it gave me a 1.8gb 1007_20060215205800_20060215220700.nuv that the file() command identifies as "data", mplayer cant play it, what should I do with it? |
| [17:46:00] | sanmarcos: | 2006-02–17 08:22:19.143 Transcoding /mnt/ademas/myth/recordings//1007_20060215205800_20060215220700.nuv done; 2006-02–17 08:22:20.496 Transcode Finished for Lost "One of Them": 2.5 GB => 1.7 GB (Autodetect) |
| [17:46:00] | praet: | sanmarcos, what did you transcode too? |
| [17:46:00] | sanmarcos: | any ideas? |
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| [17:46:00] | juski: | shit I've not stopped mythbackend yet |
| [17:46:00] | sanmarcos: | praet: I just told it to transcode, how can I check? |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | sanmarcos: play it in myth |
| [17:46:00] | sanmarcos: | Beirdo: will do |
| [17:47:00] | praet: | and doeas mplayer spit an error? |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | myth transcodes to either MPEG4 or RTJPEG in a nuv container last I looked |
| [17:47:00] | sanmarcos: | it plays in myth |
| [17:48:00] | sanmarcos: | but i want a MPEG4 I can play with mplayer |
| [17:48:00] | juski: | so use nuvexport already |
| [17:48:00] | sanmarcos: | ok the transcoding shows a little less quality and it did cut my commercials, which is good |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | what juski said :) |
| [17:49:00] | sanmarcos: | what provides nuvexport? |
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| [17:49:00] | ** juski now has impressions of keys on his head again ** | |
| [17:49:00] | laga: | Beirdo: mythtranscode can mpeg2 now as well. if you have dvb/hardware encoder or such stuff |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | ummm, nuvexport maybe? |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | laga: yes mpeg2->mpeg2 |
| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | can it do mpeg4->mpeg2? |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | juski: me too. looks like this daliman is annoying the vdr guys now. i hope he won't come back. |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i odn't think so, but i never tried |
| [17:50:00] | juski: | laga: muhahahahaha |
| [17:50:00] | sanmarcos: | Beirdo: I dont have such apackage |
| [17:51:00] | juski: | I think I managed to work out how vdr is so quick at changing channels last night |
| [17:51:00] | laga: | juski: MAK was even suggesting legal action. maybe one of my fellow lawyer family members can come up with something if it's necessary :) |
| [17:51:00] | sanmarcos: | anyways I enabled lossless transcoding |
| [17:51:00] | laga: | juski: with a bottle of jack daniel's? ;) |
| [17:51:00] | juski: | laga: heh.. that's later |
| [17:51:00] | juski: | nah – it's little more than a frontend for szap / tzap isn't it? |
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| [17:52:00] | laga: | juski: prolly. |
| [17:52:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: what's up? |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | juski: dunno how they do timeshifting etc |
| [17:52:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm guys |
| [17:52:00] | juski: | laga: maybe set up a cronned tzap |
| [17:52:00] | Yellow-Snow: | howcome there not a program to use the phone line for caller id? |
| [17:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | er plugin |
| [17:53:00] | BeanHead905: | hey xris – just wanted to let you know I'm up and running. New php with sessions enabled. thanks again for your help |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | Yellow-Snow get writing one :) |
| [17:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol u forget how noob i am |
| [17:53:00] | xris: | BeanHead905: :) |
| [17:53:00] | jnunez (n=jnunez@ool-43519335.dyn.optonline.net) Quit () | |
| [17:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i just leared how to vi |
| [17:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | so when i reformat.. i run my script and im back to normal |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | I think there's a way to do that using asterisk if you have that setup, but I dunno |
| [17:53:00] | juski: | where's catbert when you need him to downsize some peeps? |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | how about ratbert? :) |
| [17:54:00] | juski: | ratbert's a good guy |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | he's cool |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | and stooopid |
| [17:54:00] | juski: | Yellow-Snow can be Asok |
| [17:54:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | I made my girlfriend's hair look like Alice once (by mistake) |
| [17:55:00] | juski: | the intern who gets the raw deal |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | she was so not impressed. |
| [17:55:00] | juski: | how did that happen, beirdo? |
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| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | note to self... brushing curly hair in humidity leads to fun times |
| [17:55:00] | juski: | lol |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | but she ASKED me to brush it |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | so it was her fault |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | but I couldn't stop laughing |
| [17:56:00] | juski: | no that's not how it works |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | she couldn't either |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | one big triangle for a hairdo |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | it was pretty amusing |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | that was after we spent like 2.5h in the ocean.. |
| [17:58:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | ah well :) |
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| [18:02:00] | Kelerion: | iiiiits a bullseye! |
| [18:02:00] | juski: | iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin one |
| [18:02:00] | JimBowen: | Oh for goodness sake |
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| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:03:00] | ** Kelerion grins ** | |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | leave it to the Brits. |
| [18:03:00] | juski: | you can't have a nick like that & not expect a cult following. I said CULT |
| [18:03:00] | JimBowen: | I am a brit. :P |
| [18:03:00] | jams: | so who wants to loan me a netflix account so I can finish this theme =) |
| [18:04:00] | kormoc: | JimBowen? |
| [18:04:00] | JimBowen: | anyway.. mythtv works, sort of, but is borked in many other ways |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.ukgameshows.com/index.php/Jim_Bowen |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | should help demystify for those of us not British |
| [18:04:00] | JimBowen: | Heh. |
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| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a little google can't find |
| [18:04:00] | JimBowen: | kormoc: yes? what? |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bowen |
| [18:05:00] | JimBowen: | should be (bullseye) on the end of that URL :@ |
| [18:05:00] | kormoc: | JimBowen, just wondering where it was from, and Beirdo answered |
| [18:06:00] | JimBowen: | anyway, as I was saying.. borkage. |
| [18:06:00] | JimBowen: | *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x0814f817 *** |
| [18:06:00] | JimBowen: | Aborted |
| [18:06:00] | JimBowen: | bowen@cyberdemon:/var/downloads/mythtv$ |
| [18:06:00] | juski: | there's a DVD of the game now.. it's a bit lame though |
| [18:06:00] | JimBowen: | happened on the backend while watching a recording |
| [18:06:00] | juski: | ouch |
| [18:07:00] | JimBowen: | then later on the client, watching livetv |
| [18:07:00] | JimBowen: | *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x08627718 *** |
| [18:07:00] | JimBowen: | Aborted |
| [18:07:00] | JimBowen: | and again |
| [18:07:00] | JimBowen: | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x086cf7f0 *** |
| [18:07:00] | JimBowen: | Aborted |
| [18:07:00] | juski: | time to compile it with debuggerring enabled |
| [18:07:00] | JimBowen: | :/ |
| [18:08:00] | JimBowen: | I was hoping you'd say "oh I fixed that. Download the latest SVN." :P |
| [18:08:00] | JimBowen: | though, latest SVN may be a good idea I suppose |
| [18:08:00] | JimBowen: | this was the latest about a week ago |
| [18:09:00] | to3cutt3r: | Is anyone using Mythflix? I have some issues. |
| [18:09:00] | JimBowen: | though tv works now btw, just rather buggy |
| [18:09:00] | JimBowen: | except I can only see ITV and Channel4 stations |
| [18:10:00] | JimBowen: | the rest fail to lock for some reason |
| [18:10:00] | juski: | JimBowen: where in the UK are you? |
| [18:10:00] | JimBowen: | Southampton. |
| [18:11:00] | JimBowen: | Using rowridge transmitter |
| [18:11:00] | JimBowen: | I imported a channels.conf generated by scan |
| [18:11:00] | juski: | ah so I can't just waz my dtv_mux table intoa pastebin for you to ompare |
| [18:11:00] | JimBowen: | which works for kaffeiene |
| [18:11:00] | juski: | JimBowen: one snag with that |
| [18:11:00] | juski: | mythtv needs the networkid & stuff that a channels.conf file won't provide |
| [18:12:00] | JimBowen: | Well I told it to get infos from a listings source |
| [18:12:00] | JimBowen: | which it did |
| [18:12:00] | juski: | eh? |
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| [18:12:00] | JimBowen: | (That's what I mistook for scanning yesterday, when it was chomping CPU and filling the database) |
| [18:13:00] | juski: | riiight |
| [18:13:00] | juski: | if you run dvbscan again with mythbackend shut down, do it with the very very verbose option turned on & look for serviceid & network ids |
| [18:14:00] | juski: | dvbscan won't write them to the conf file so you'll need a big scrollback buffer |
| [18:14:00] | juski: | when you've got em, put them into the dtv_multiplex table |
| [18:14:00] | JimBowen: | er |
| [18:14:00] | JimBowen: | > file |
| [18:14:00] | juski: | networkid will be the same for all the muxes from the same transmitter site |
| [18:15:00] | juski: | sod it – aborted the upgrade again |
| [18:16:00] | JimBowen: | I have to enter them all manually? |
| [18:16:00] | JimBowen: | oh, and I tried that |
| [18:16:00] | juski: | all.. like six of them |
| [18:16:00] | JimBowen: | again just the ITV and C4 ones worked |
| [18:16:00] | JimBowen: | It is possible I suppose that it is due to my aerial being shit |
| [18:17:00] | JimBowen: | though unlikely as kaffeine has no problem |
| [18:17:00] | juski: | er.. not if kaffeine is okay |
| [18:17:00] | JimBowen: | except the glitches associated with it being only just an acceptable signal |
| [18:18:00] | JimBowen: | like every few seconds the picture freezes and I get random pixels on part of it, and a blip from the speakers |
| [18:19:00] | juski: | marginal error rate |
| [18:19:00] | JimBowen: | so maybe myth is a bit more picky about what it will accept or something? |
| [18:19:00] | juski: | dunno. anyway time I was out of here. |
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| [18:19:00] | JimBowen: | :/ |
| [18:19:00] | JimBowen: | bye. |
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| [18:23:00] | Yellow-Snow: | holy shit |
| [18:23:00] | Yellow-Snow: | anyone watching usa hockey |
| [18:23:00] | Yellow-Snow: | right now? |
| [18:23:00] | Yellow-Snow: | overtime.. 14 seconds till shoot out |
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| [18:24:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wow shootout |
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| [18:32:00] | to3cutt3r: | Does anyone have MythFlix working properly? |
| [18:35:00] | mocker: | Does Myth .19 have any audible feedback? |
| [18:35:00] | mocker: | Like noises when you hit FF/RW? |
| [18:35:00] | to3cutt3r: | none that I have noticed |
| [18:35:00] | laga: | do you want some high-pitch whine like on a real VCR? |
| [18:35:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [18:36:00] | mocker: | laga: More like friendly bloops to let me know that it received my button press. |
| [18:36:00] | to3cutt3r: | I have noticed that FF/RW have mysteriously reversed function on occasion since upgrading. |
| [18:36:00] | kormoc: | mocker, it more deals with visual feedback |
| [18:38:00] | Chutt: | i'd like the option of audio feedback |
| [18:38:00] | chuckyp: | Okay how do you delete files from mythmusic because d is not working for whatever reason. I added music to the folder then I later deleted it. Now the deleted music is still showing up. |
| [18:38:00] | Chutt: | chuckyp, run the 'scan for new music' |
| [18:38:00] | chuckyp: | Chutt, I'm using the remote so where is that option? |
| [18:39:00] | mocker: | chuckyp: I think it's under setup/music manager. |
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| [18:39:00] | chuckyp: | mocker, Gotcha let me hunt arround a little more |
| [18:41:00] | tweak_st: | hmm should xine-lib give me a --enable-lirc option in configure? |
| [18:42:00] | mocker: | Completely unrelated to Myth, but I have to say that svn+trac is awesome. |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | aside from when trac breaks |
| [18:43:00] | Chutt: | and doesn't have any concept of new users =) |
| [18:43:00] | mocker: | It's concept of users is pretty basic overall. :) |
| [18:44:00] | mocker: | Actually maybe I'm more enthralled with just SVN+apache. |
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| [18:46:00] | chuckyp: | mocker, yeah its under setup> music tools > scan for new music |
| [18:46:00] | chuckyp: | Now I just have to figure out why transcode is erroring. |
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| [18:47:00] | chuckyp: | Anytime I transcode it adds it to the job queue then it just errors, any ideas? |
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| [18:53:00] | chuckyp: | mocker, Have you had any luck with transcoding stuff? |
| [18:54:00] | laga: | chuckyp: look at the backend logs, prolly in /var/log/mythtv/ |
| [18:54:00] | laga: | that's a very good place to look if you experience problems |
| [18:54:00] | chuckyp: | laga, Let me reque and look again but i'm pretty sure nothign was showing up |
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| [18:57:00] | chuckyp: | 2006-02–17 13:56:19.594 New DB connection, total: 2 |
| [18:57:00] | chuckyp: | 2006-02–17 13:56:19.616 Transcoding from /myth/tv/1024_20060217122400_20060217122900.nuv to /myth/tv/1024_20060217122400_20060217122900.nuv.tmp |
| [18:57:00] | chuckyp: | 2006-02–17 13:56:19.845 Unknown video codec: |
| [18:57:00] | Juski: | right 2 aborted emerges later.. I'm gonna go for it |
| [18:57:00] | chuckyp: | laga, There is the error i'm getting. |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | Juski: 0.19? |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | chuckyp: that looks weird. |
| [18:58:00] | Juski: | laga: yup |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe ;) |
| [18:58:00] | Juski: | it's been an easy life since 0.18.1 came out |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | yep, gotta change that |
| [18:59:00] | chuckyp: | laga, What do you mena looks wierd. |
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| [18:59:00] | laga: | chuckyp: well, 'unknown video codec:', looks lkike there is missing somethign |
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| [18:59:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: unknown video codec... |
| [19:00:00] | chuckyp: | laga, how can mp2 be an unknown codec? |
| [19:00:00] | chuckyp: | laga, mpeg2 |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | it shouldn't happen |
| [19:02:00] | chuckyp: | laga, Any ideas of what to try? |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | chuckyp: run mythtranscode manually on that file |
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| [19:05:00] | KaZeR: | hi people |
| [19:06:00] | KaZeR: | i have a weird bug : my program guide is giving me the schedule of yesterday with today's date... |
| [19:06:00] | KaZeR: | has anybody a tip about that? |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | put down the crack pipe? |
| [19:07:00] | KaZeR: | lol Beirdo |
| [19:07:00] | KaZeR: | and hi. |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | other than to dump the data and to re-grab, I dunno |
| [19:07:00] | KaZeR: | bu i swear i didn't smoke :) |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | hi :) |
| [19:08:00] | KaZeR: | Beirdo, i did. i truncated the table, and ran mythfilldatabase, but still the same |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | you check the system date? |
| [19:08:00] | KaZeR: | yup |
| [19:08:00] | KaZeR: | 17 feb. |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | K. |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | dunno off hand |
| [19:08:00] | KaZeR: | and mythweb shows 17 feb too |
| [19:08:00] | KaZeR: | k.. |
| [19:08:00] | chuckyp: | laga, trying to figure out what options I need. |
| [19:08:00] | KaZeR: | i happened once before, but i don't remember what i did to solve it |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | my Friday-afternoon brainpower's a bit limited |
| [19:09:00] | KaZeR: | hehe |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | chuckyp: mythtranscode --help |
| [19:09:00] | chuckyp: | laga, There we go was looking for man pages online and everywhere. |
| [19:09:00] | chuckyp: | laga, you can smack me later |
| [19:11:00] | KaZeR: | mmmm interesting. my whole datas are one day back. so this is rather xmltv related... |
| [19:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | arg |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | chuckyp: will do. :) |
| [19:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | u know whats sad? |
| [19:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i now want 3 monitors |
| [19:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | =\ |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | i want a nice 30" HDTV. |
| [19:12:00] | KaZeR: | i want girls on bread |
| [19:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | haha i wonder if i can go get some old black and white monitor to just put irc on it |
| [19:13:00] | chuckyp: | laga, Okay I ran "mythtranscode -i filename -l" yields info about the stream etc.. and says "Ran out of video buffers!" |
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| [19:15:00] | laga: | chuckyp: sorry, gotta run now. real life needs my attention ;) |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | you don't have a life |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:15:00] | chuckyp: | laga, np thanks for your previous help |
| [19:16:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, You have any ideas? |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | rarely |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | what was the question? |
| [19:19:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey |
| [19:20:00] | Yellow-Snow: | if im transcoding a dvd right |
| [19:20:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is that frontend or backend |
| [19:20:00] | Yellow-Snow: | in other words can i get out of myhttv? |
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| [19:24:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, Nevermind I'm retarded and forgot to setup transcoding profile. But I do have another question. |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | K |
| [19:25:00] | a1cypher: | Hey, I have my mythtv setup working, but for some reason after I have changed channels the video starts to mess up and I see a faded/dimmer copy of the picture shifted right, a sort of shadow effect. |
| [19:25:00] | a1cypher: | Has anyone else had this problem? |
| [19:25:00] | a1cypher: | In order to fix it, I have to exit and go back to watch TV. |
| [19:25:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, Is ther any way to shrink the size of the theme or maybe I don't have to do that. The problem is in some windows within mythtv i'm losing the first few characters off the left of my tv. I need to move it over or shrink the image some how. |
| [19:25:00] | a1cypher: | then it screws up again as soon as I change channels. |
| [19:25:00] | chuckyp: | a1cypher, What type of tuner are you using? |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | chuckyp: there is a gui size adjustment in the frontend setup menu |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | or you can tweak your overscan in X |
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| [19:26:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, Yeah does overscan accept negative values? |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | for most cards, yes |
| [19:27:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, Wouldn't I want to go under zero for over scan |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:27:00] | chuckyp: | Beirdo, And let me look for that gui size adjustment. |
| [19:27:00] | a1cypher: | its a Hauppauge WinTV 150 |
| [19:28:00] | Cardoe: | hey Beirdo |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | whazzup? |
| [19:28:00] | a1cypher: | I think it may have something to do with it trying to change channels. I am using the IR Blaster to change channels on my reciever; is it possible to disable the commands from myth to the card to change channels since I am not using cable, just S-Vid? |
| [19:28:00] | Cardoe: | nada. you? |
| [19:28:00] | Cardoe: | Issac got a little upset last night |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | just trying to survive the rest of this week |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | oh? |
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| [19:28:00] | Cardoe: | check out the log |
| [19:29:00] | Cardoe: | he went off the deep end for a bit. |
| [19:29:00] | elvis: | hello people, you guys know how I can check if lircd is working? |
| [19:29:00] | Cardoe: | wife musta made him sleep on the couch or something |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | it does happen sometimes to all of us |
| [19:29:00] | chuckyp: | a1cypher, Yeah get rid of the external channel change script in mythtv-setup |
| [19:29:00] | Cardoe: | and he was bitter |
| [19:29:00] | Cardoe: | yep |
| [19:29:00] | Cardoe: | it was funny |
| [19:29:00] | chuckyp: | a1cypher, Also i'm using one of those cards and I'm not having any problems. |
| [19:29:00] | elvis: | can someone help me set up lircd? I just soldered the receiver.. :P |
| [19:30:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [19:30:00] | a1cypher: | I am using the externel changer script, I want to disable the internal channel changer |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, a super-ignorant user |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | gotta love those |
| [19:31:00] | chuckyp: | a1cypher, Ahh you could stop lirc from running. |
| [19:31:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: Can you tell me how to format my hard drive? ;) |
| [19:31:00] | Chutt: | ssure |
| [19:31:00] | a1cypher: | ?? that's got nothing to do with Myth |
| [19:32:00] | a1cypher: | I want the internal changer, the one that tells the Card to switch channels on the Coax input to stop |
| [19:32:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, i was mainly pissed off at some fucktard opening a 'blocker' 'major' ticket for a svn merge issue due to local changes in his source |
| [19:32:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: you should tell users "kill -9 -1" |
| [19:32:00] | Cardoe: | I came home and you kicked the guy |
| [19:32:00] | Cardoe: | I didn't have the background behind it |
| [19:33:00] | Cardoe: | I thought it was funny |
| [19:33:00] | Chutt: | relieved some steam =) |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | people should know better than to poke the bear :) |
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| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | it was pretty obvious from the logs that Chutt was in a bad mood for some reason... so the luser's attitude wasn't wise :) |
| [19:34:00] | Chutt: | eh |
| [19:36:00] | Juski: | that fucktard was has come up again :-) |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | after a while on IRC, it's often easy to tell when someone's having a bad day or whatever, and that's a pretty bad time to curse at them, especially when they have ops :) |
| [19:36:00] | mchou: | damn, 1GB 3200 DDR for $50 |
| [19:37:00] | Juski: | nice price |
| [19:37:00] | mchou: | corsair value ram |
| [19:37:00] | Juski: | nice make.. better n' some unbranded crap |
| [19:39:00] | mchou: | I guess they must be phasing out 3200 DDR in preparation for M2....... |
| [19:40:00] | KaZeR: | RAHHHHH why the hell is xmltv adding one day to my tvguide |
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| [19:42:00] | r10: | hi |
| [19:43:00] | r10: | what is the easys way to update my mythtv ? |
| [19:44:00] | elvis: | did anyone here compile the lircd from source ? |
| [19:44:00] | elvis is now known as {jasper} | |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | elvis is dead |
| [19:44:00] | KaZeR: | r10, depends of your distro |
| [19:45:00] | r10: | KaZeR: I have gentoo |
| [19:45:00] | Juski: | anyone here ever have a nick without daft characters on the sides? ;-) |
| [19:45:00] | KaZeR: | r10,emerge -u world ? |
| [19:45:00] | r10: | KaZeR: no, there is only the old version in portage :( |
| [19:45:00] | KaZeR: | r10 nop :) |
| [19:46:00] | {jasper}: | them this is annoying..I can't select anything in setup.sh ? with lircd instal |
| [19:46:00] | r10: | KaZeR: oh, sow it is masked ? |
| [19:46:00] | KaZeR: | maybe you need to unmask it (echo "media-tv/mythtv" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords ) |
| [19:46:00] | KaZeR: | r10, probably since it's new |
| [19:46:00] | KaZeR: | Anduin, de facto, not heavily tested |
| [19:46:00] | KaZeR: | Anduin ?? damn why did i press the tab key here. |
| [19:47:00] | r10: | KaZeR: what will happen if I do a make install on the source I downloadet from the mythtv site ? |
| [19:47:00] | KaZeR: | r10, you may go into trouble because of paths. although this is doable, i wouldn't recommend it. |
| [19:47:00] | KaZeR: | emerge is so much simplier, and cleaner |
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| [19:48:00] | KaZeR: | should i say simplier or simpler? |
| [19:48:00] | ** KaZeR has a doubt ** | |
| [19:48:00] | r10: | KaZeR: yes, but I needs to modifie the source, and the install it on anothe box... |
| [19:48:00] | Cardoe: | r10: No 0.19 is in Portage |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | you just need to unmask it |
| [19:48:00] | KaZeR: | r10, modify the source? |
| [19:48:00] | Cardoe: | it's not even masked |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | is it not? |
| [19:49:00] | Cardoe: | it's ~x86, ~amd64, and ~ppc |
| [19:49:00] | a1cypher: | Does anyone know how I can install just the frontend in Gentoo ? |
| [19:49:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: no |
| [19:49:00] | r10: | KaZeR: yes I needs to recode som part of mythtv :( |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | emerge today said it was masked (~x86) |
| [19:49:00] | Cardoe: | a1cypher: emerge -pv mythtv |
| [19:49:00] | KaZeR: | Cardoe, true, by masked i meant marked as ~. my bad. |
| [19:49:00] | Cardoe: | a1cypher: read the possible USE |
| [19:49:00] | KaZeR: | r10, really? which part? |
| [19:49:00] | Cardoe: | echo "media-tv/mythtv ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| [19:50:00] | r10: | KaZeR: the TV part, I do not have a TV-tuner, but I uses VLC to stream tv to my box |
| [19:50:00] | Cardoe: | emerge mythtv |
| [19:50:00] | Cardoe: | and now you have 0.19 |
| [19:50:00] | KaZeR: | a1cypher, i believe there's a "frontendonly" flag |
| [19:50:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I feel your pain |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | now multiply it by about 10,000 |
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| [19:50:00] | {jasper}: | hmm can't get lircd installed |
| [19:50:00] | {jasper}: | :( |
| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | r10, realistically myth isn't ment to do that, and given you have to ask about how tocompile it, are you sure you have the knowledge to modify it to do what you want? |
| [19:51:00] | Juski: | here we go.. 0.18 is being unmerged |
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| [19:52:00] | Juski: | just 7 more packages to go :) |
| [19:52:00] | {jasper}: | juski you use lirc right? |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | I got it bad, got it bad, got it bad... I'm hot for teacher... |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehhe |
| [19:53:00] | Juski: | {jasper}: if you can't run setup.sh properly maybe you don't have the right version of the menu program it uses (can't remember what that is btw) |
| [19:53:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: ? |
| [19:53:00] | ** Beirdo is listening to Van Halen ** | |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | you must be too young to remember that song :) |
| [19:53:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: how old are you? |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh. |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | a child of the early 70s |
| [19:54:00] | r10: | kormoc: I have done a lot of koding in my time, sow I thing I can do it :) |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | r10, you're going to have to reimpliment most of the backend code, you understand that? |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | r10, this is not a trival change |
| [19:55:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: yeah... 70s... wasn't even alive then. |
| [19:55:00] | KaZeR: | r10, just to know, you want to use mythtv as a vlc client? |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | I think that song's from the 1984 album |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | with Jump, Panama |
| [19:56:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: I was 2 |
| [19:56:00] | r10: | kormoc: I thing I can byepass the tuner part, and the start the VLC play, in the same manner when you play a movie via mplayer |
| [19:56:00] | Juski: | 4 down.. 4 to go |
| [19:57:00] | kormoc: | r10, why not just setup mythvideo to start VLC, without any code modifications |
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| [19:57:00] | kormoc: | r10, and myth doesn't use mplayer to play tv, it uses it's own internal player |
| [19:57:00] | {jasper}: | hmm juski...any way I can find out the menu version? |
| [19:57:00] | {jasper}: | cuz only the cancel button works :P |
| [19:58:00] | r10: | kormoc: yes, now is it not in version 0.18... |
| [19:58:00] | kormoc: | r10, excuse me? |
| [19:59:00] | r10: | kormoc: now I use version 0.18, and there it uses mplayer to play my movies |
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| [19:59:00] | kormoc: | r10, sure, but not the tv part... |
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| [20:07:00] | {jasper}: | hmm, can someone help me install lirc ? |
| [20:08:00] | Juski: | {jasper} if setup.sh isn't playing there's not much you can do |
| [20:09:00] | {jasper}: | Juski I did a ./configure --with-driver=serial |
| [20:09:00] | ** Juski might need a minimyth expert shortly ** | |
| [20:09:00] | {jasper}: | it told me it needed lirc_serial in kernel |
| [20:09:00] | riksta: | h/topic |
| [20:09:00] | riksta: | oops |
| [20:10:00] | ** Beirdo swings the trout at riksta ** | |
| [20:10:00] | riksta: | hey m8 |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | heya |
| [20:10:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: you know the problems with nvidia binaries |
| [20:10:00] | riksta: | are they ok in 0.19 |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | no idea, I use ATI |
| [20:11:00] | riksta: | oh alrite |
| [20:11:00] | riksta: | whats new anyway |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | not much. headache... engaged... writing a new bot... |
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| [20:11:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
| [20:12:00] | fir3st0rm: | are there any mythweb themes expect the standard one? |
| [20:12:00] | psofa_: | is there any alternative for mysql-query-browser in linux? |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | psofa_: dunno of what you speak |
| [20:13:00] | psofa_: | a nice interface to edit tables |
| [20:13:00] | psofa_: | using the mysql syntax |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | phpmyadmin or something... |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a little google can't find ya |
| [20:14:00] | psofa_: | all i find is binding and such |
| [20:14:00] | psofa_: | i dont want php |
| [20:14:00] | psofa_: | i want a gtk interface |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | off to google with ya |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | or freshmeat |
| [20:15:00] | {jasper}: | where can I find serial support in the kernel menuconfig? |
| [20:15:00] | psofa_: | Description: TCL MySQL Interface |
| [20:15:00] | riksta: | dev-db/gmyclient |
| [20:15:00] | psofa_: | i think that sounds good |
| [20:15:00] | riksta: | http://gmyclient.sourceforge.net/ |
| [20:16:00] | riksta: | nice doesn't work |
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| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | Jasper: keep looking |
| [20:17:00] | Klatuu: | the hardest part about my upgrade to mythtv-0.19 was mythweb |
| [20:17:00] | psofa_: | riksta, ill install it though |
| [20:17:00] | riksta: | {jasper}: here is a secret in menuconfig press "/" and search |
| [20:17:00] | riksta: | it will tell you where it is |
| [20:18:00] | psofa_: | theres search in menuconfig? |
| [20:18:00] | psofa_: | holy shit |
| [20:18:00] | psofa_: | :D |
| [20:18:00] | riksta: | of course |
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| [20:20:00] | {jasper}: | hmm anyone got an idea how I get lirc_serial installed? :P |
| [20:22:00] | riksta: | yes |
| [20:23:00] | riksta: | you tell it to use that module in the configure |
| [20:23:00] | riksta: | --with-driver=foo or something |
| [20:24:00] | {jasper}: | that's not the problem...I get FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial Device or resource busy |
| [20:24:00] | riksta: | look in dmesg |
| [20:24:00] | Juski: | okees that's me files in /etc updated |
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| [20:28:00] | Juski: | backend started after fixing permissions on my recordings dir... |
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| [20:31:00] | Juski: | now to get mythweb working... |
| [20:32:00] | Juski: | okay who moved the readme file? |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | not me |
| [20:34:00] | {jasper}: | hmm dmesg says: no version for lirc_unregistred_plugin found |
| [20:34:00] | {jasper}: | kernel tained, port 03f8 allready in use |
| [20:35:00] | Juski: | easy |
| [20:35:00] | {jasper}: | it is? |
| [20:35:00] | Juski: | setserial command as detailed in the FM at www.mythtv.org |
| [20:35:00] | Juski: | look hard for it |
| [20:35:00] | {jasper}: | you mean setserial ttyS0 uart none ? |
| [20:35:00] | {jasper}: | that says no device.. |
| [20:36:00] | Juski: | hmm I'm tempted to rm -rf this directory & re-emerge mythweb |
| [20:36:00] | Juski: | renaming is safer for now |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | reaming? |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | oh, there IS an n in there |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | duh.. still same error: fsockopen(): unable to connect to 192.168.1.10:6543 |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | mythbackend is running btw |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | oops.. no it's bloody not |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | my bad |
| [20:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [20:38:00] | ** Beirdo slaps Juski with a trout ** | |
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| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | is that I Luser, or IL user? |
| [20:40:00] | dev-: | getting the right overscan sux |
| [20:40:00] | ILuser: | hey everyone hope alls well – im thinking about moving from mythtv 0.18.1 to 0.19 via a "smart upgrade mythv-suite". i am running ivtv 0.4. has anyone does this? should i expect anythin to break? |
| [20:40:00] | dev-: | sometimes it doesnt even appear to take effect heh! |
| [20:40:00] | ILuser: | beirdo – let's go with the latter ;) |
| [20:41:00] | Juski: | hrm... mythbackend starts fine in a terminal but if I run the init script (/etc/init.d/mythbackend start) it can't connect to the DB |
| [20:42:00] | ** Juski goes to check mythtv is in the right groups ** | |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | check the backend logs |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | betcha it can't find the mythtv.txt, or is finding the wrong one |
| [20:42:00] | Juski: | backend log makes no mention of |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | i.e. in the home dir of the wrong user |
| [20:42:00] | Juski: | mythtv.txt ? |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | er |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | mysql.txt |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | damn, I AM fried |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | I hate feeling like a zombie |
| [20:43:00] | Juski: | in the home dir of the wrong user... 0.18 had it stored in /etc/mysql.txt on this system |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | it maybe ain't looking there now for whatever reason? |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | still no complaints about not being able to find it |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | maybe it can find it but it's set wrong |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | tis possible |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | finding all mysql.txt occurences now |
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| [20:46:00] | Juski: | I'll check the user groups juust in case |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | not that it moans about that |
| [20:46:00] | pembo13: | how do i change the audio language of dvd playback in mythtv? |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | pembo13: depends what player you use |
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| [20:47:00] | pembo13: | well it seems to be using mplayer |
| [20:47:00] | mchou: | ok, in 0.19, you still have the option to use mplayer or xine if you dont compile in the native dvd player, correct? |
| [20:47:00] | Juski: | so go in search of mplayer documentation and you shall find |
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| [20:48:00] | {jasper}: | hmm I don't think this is gonna work..I got lirc to run...but it doesn't do anything with irrecord myremote.. |
| [20:48:00] | {jasper}: | no reaction on remote control whatsoever |
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| [20:49:00] | Juski: | /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt was the culprit – bloody hell guys |
| [20:50:00] | Juski: | what was wrong with /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ? |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | anyhoo – recorded shows page is taking a while to load up.. I presume it's making thumbs |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | I can relax for a bit.. or plod on with minimyth |
| [20:52:00] | ** Juski opts for taking a breather ** | |
| [20:55:00] | {jasper}: | juski could you take a look at my dmesg ? http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/dmesg |
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| [20:56:00] | Juski: | sorry jasper – have things of my own to sort out |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | right now |
| [20:56:00] | {jasper}: | k |
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| [21:02:00] | Juski: | hmm now minimyth is gonna complain cos it can't find my theme (I ain't put it in the image yet) |
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| [21:02:00] | Juski: | into the DB I go |
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| [21:03:00] | Juski: | I can't edit the settings fields.. bugger |
| [21:04:00] | ILuser: | hey guys mythtv 0.19 isn't dependent on a particular version of ivtv right? |
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| [21:06:00] | Juski: | ILuser: I bloody hope not |
| [21:07:00] | ILuser: | juski: thanks.. i'm having trepidations about doing the upgrade from 0.18.1 to 0.19 |
| [21:07:00] | dev-: | yeah i dunno.. |
| [21:07:00] | dev-: | im having a problem with livetv wheen it swtiches between liveshows on the same channel/tuner |
| [21:08:00] | dev-: | where the frontend just stops |
| [21:08:00] | dev-: | not sure if upgrading was realy worth it :P |
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| [21:08:00] | ILuser: | dev – thanks trouble notes much appreciated too :) |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | ILuser: I started at about 7pm... now got it working – just playing with minimyth so I can be fully functional again |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | scheduled recordings are going well so far |
| [21:09:00] | dev-: | its the livetv stuff i have problems with |
| [21:09:00] | ILuser: | yeah i may have to hold off until wifey won't freak if her recordings don't happen |
| [21:09:00] | dev-: | slowass channel changing when its supposed to be faster |
| [21:09:00] | dev-: | mythfrontend stopping when livetv shows switch |
| [21:09:00] | ILuser: | yeah i gave up on the fast livetv channel changing already |
| [21:10:00] | dev-: | i think it was faster for me in .18 |
| [21:10:00] | dmachi: | dev-: I have that same problem with the switch between programs :( |
| [21:10:00] | dev-: | maybe because my frontends are remote, dunno.. but its slow ;/ |
| [21:10:00] | ILuser: | who knows |
| [21:10:00] | dev-: | dmachi: ugh, great, any idea whats wrong with it? |
| [21:10:00] | dmachi: | thought the channel change speed, seems to me (even with 19) to be faster than my moms tivo :P |
| [21:10:00] | ILuser: | hah i hear that |
| [21:11:00] | ILuser: | i dropped the tivo long time ago over that |
| [21:11:00] | dev-: | ive only seen a tivo once, never used one heh |
| [21:11:00] | dmachi: | dev-: I had seen some bugs that seem to indicate it was a problem with the pvr-350 |
| [21:11:00] | dev-: | i dont have a 350 ;/ |
| [21:11:00] | dev-: | 4 250's |
| [21:11:00] | dmachi: | well i think the bug was actually for pvr-*50 |
| [21:11:00] | dev-: | ugh.. |
| [21:11:00] | dmachi: | anyway, i tried to update to svn last night |
| [21:11:00] | dmachi: | but it didn't fi the probelm |
| [21:12:00] | dmachi: | are you having problems going into the guide and scheduling a recording too? |
| [21:12:00] | dev-: | havent tried that yet, i do all my scheduling fom mythweb |
| [21:12:00] | ILuser: | ah so yeah, maybe i'll hold off ;) thanks for sharing guys |
| [21:12:00] | dev-: | wil try now though, any specific to do? |
| [21:13:00] | dev-: | any+thing |
| [21:13:00] | dmachi: | hit guide, select a program, and try to make it record |
| [21:13:00] | dev-: | osd guide while watching livetv or guilde in 'manage recordings'? |
| [21:13:00] | dmachi: | it just did nothing for me (though a program i had already scheduled did in fact record fine) |
| [21:13:00] | dmachi: | osd guite |
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| [21:14:00] | dev-: | works here |
| [21:14:00] | dev-: | its scheduled |
| [21:15:00] | dmachi: | hmm, wierd |
| [21:15:00] | dmachi: | maybe i have a database issue |
| [21:15:00] | dmachi: | i've not really started to try to isolate the problem yet. |
| [21:16:00] | dmachi: | but my wife is getting pissy with me because it basically freezes and i have to escape to the menu between each program |
| [21:16:00] | dev-: | yeah.. i have that same problem |
| [21:16:00] | ILuser: | dmachi: been there |
| [21:16:00] | dmachi: | :) |
| [21:16:00] | Juski: | lesson to be learned here. record everything & watch when you want to watch it, not when 'they' want you to |
| [21:16:00] | dev-: | nothing in the frontend log really except 'timing out wait due to impending livetv switch' |
| [21:17:00] | Juski: | you spend more time watching great TV |
| [21:17:00] | dev-: | then 'waited too ong for ringbuffer pause' |
| [21:17:00] | dev-: | then froze |
| [21:17:00] | dmachi: | yeah thats basically what I get |
| [21:17:00] | dev-: | Juski: great advice juski, but sometimes you just channel surf to see whats on and land on tlc or dsc |
| [21:17:00] | dev-: | and want to watch it for more than 1 program :P |
| [21:17:00] | dmachi: | juski: yeah thats nice in theory, but i don't tend to plan what i watch ;P |
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| [21:18:00] | dev-: | 10 minutes till show switch, watching my logs, gonna try and see what the deal is |
| [21:18:00] | dev-: | ive ran into alot of little issues from having a slave/master backend config |
| [21:18:00] | dev-: | like stupid lock table grants heh |
| [21:19:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 16:06:20.632 RingBuf(/mnt/store//1005_20060217160620.mpg): Invalid file (fd 20) when opening '/mnt/store//1005_20060217160620.mpg'. 12 retries remaining. |
| [21:19:00] | dev-: | hrm |
| [21:19:00] | dev-: | but thats when i restarted livetv |
| [21:20:00] | dev-: | apparently mythbackend thought there were no problems |
| [21:20:00] | dev-: | at least not with quiet logging on |
| [21:20:00] | dev-: | changed to all |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | right time to go downstairs & boot upski the laptop |
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| [21:22:00] | {jasper}: | hmm, I'm getting BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [00000001] code: modprobe/7234 with lirc :( |
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| [21:27:00] | {jasper}: | argh |
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| [21:30:00] | dev-: | just like clockwork.. |
| [21:30:00] | dev-: | now to dig through logs |
| [21:30:00] | dev-: | at least its a punctual problem |
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| [21:32:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 16:30:00.882 Preview: 'myth://192.168.0.80:6543/1005_20060217162147.mpg' is not local, |
| [21:33:00] | dev-: | replacing with '/mnt/store//1005_20060217162147.mpg', which is local. |
| [21:33:00] | dev-: | hjrm now why did it do that |
| [21:33:00] | dev-: | when its useing a remote encoder |
| [21:33:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 16:30:00.974 RingBuf(/mnt/store//1005_20060217162147.mpg): OpenFile(/mnt/store//1005_20060217162147.mpg, 0) |
| [21:33:00] | dev-: | then it tries to open it local again |
| [21:33:00] | dev-: | hrm. |
| [21:34:00] | {jasper}: | anyone here with experience with lirc? |
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| [21:37:00] | dev-: | hrm i dont seee a ticket for this frontend freeze problem |
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| [21:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski you in?? |
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| [21:39:00] | dev-: | maybe it needs a larger ringbuffer |
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| [21:41:00] | tweak_st: | yay finally got lirc working with both mythtv and xine |
| [21:41:00] | ** tweak_st dances around his box ** | |
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| [21:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | dont dance on it! |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | don't whiz on the electric fence |
| [21:44:00] | Yellow-Snow: | why not |
| [21:45:00] | dev-: | dont watch livetv on remote encoders ;/ |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | zzzzzzoooootT! |
| [21:45:00] | Juski: | it's aliiiiive .. but the remote doesn't work & the screensize is a bit borked |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | bork bork bork |
| [21:45:00] | tweak_st: | lol and my xine crashes |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | that reminds me |
| [21:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | who actually watches live tv on mythtv |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | I have like 30 muppet shows recorded |
| [21:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | sad |
| [21:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | delete |
| [21:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | asap |
| [21:46:00] | dev-: | Yellow-Snow: people who have every tv in their house on mythtv |
| [21:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | show me via mythweb |
| [21:46:00] | ** ivor puts his hand up. ** | |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | no way will I delete them until I watch em |
| [21:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | still dont understand dev |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | herrrrshki borky bork errr mythty borky bork.. hurgen & schmurgen and yum, bork bork bork.. that's the full jist of the song, IIRC |
| [21:46:00] | dev-: | im thinking about just downgrading back to .18 |
| [21:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i wana see the new mythweb |
| [21:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | =\ |
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| [21:47:00] | dev-: | .19 introduced slower channel changes for me, perhaps because of my remote encoders, and lockups in mythfrontend when its switching shows in livetv on the same channel |
| [21:47:00] | dev-: | the new mythweb does not relaly have anything new on it |
| [21:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea but i wana see what it looks like |
| [21:48:00] | dev-: | except it shows shows that are currently recording in the 'upcoming shows' list. |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, only 24 of em |
| [21:48:00] | dev-: | it looks the same as .18 |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:48:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ohoh |
| [21:48:00] | Yellow-Snow: | bummer |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | still.. 12h of muppet goodness |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | bork bork bork |
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| [21:48:00] | dev-: | it has a few extra options on recording schedules, like recording shows in a default time stretch. |
| [21:49:00] | dev-: | but i dunno, nothing worth upgrading for really heh |
| [21:49:00] | kormoc: | dev-, new welcome screen! |
| [21:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hehe |
| [21:49:00] | dev-: | lol.. |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | wanna see the new mythweb huh? www.juski.co.uk/mythweb/png |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | www.juski.co.uk/mythweb.png even |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | you need to move to the cook islands |
| [21:50:00] | dev-: | the only thing thats nwe is the welcome screen — which i guess was nice, since you dont have to go through all that db traffic by automatically pulling up the listings.. |
| [21:50:00] | kormoc: | Juski, you know everyone is gonna try http://www.juski.co.uk/mythweb now |
| [21:50:00] | dev-: | but its not worth upgrading for :P |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | kormoc: they can try ;-) |
| [21:50:00] | dev-: | this livetv lockup crap is bs though |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | so don't use livetv |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | juski.co.uk doesn't resolve to my home address :-) |
| [21:50:00] | dev-: | heh ;p |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | it's all part of a cunning plan to wean you off live tv |
| [21:50:00] | dev-: | so since one other person reported the exact same problem |
| [21:50:00] | kormoc: | Juski, what about home.juski.co.uk ? :P |
| [21:51:00] | dev-: | more people have to be experiencing this |
| [21:51:00] | ** Juski blocks port 80 ** | |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | doesn't take too many braincells to find out what my IP is |
| [21:52:00] | ** psymin nods. ** | |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | I still laugh at google's Cook Islands site |
| [21:52:00] | psymin: | It took great effort to not go to that url |
| [21:52:00] | ** psymin queues up hours of CSPAN for Juski. ** | |
| [21:52:00] | tweak_st: | Juski your ip is 127.0.0.1 :) |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | lol |
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| [21:52:00] | dev-: | hah hah. |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | bye, Chanserv you POS |
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| [21:53:00] | dev-: | quick everyone leave so we cna cycle and get awps! |
| [21:53:00] | dev-: | :P |
| [21:53:00] | Juski: | right back to the er... fun |
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| [21:57:00] | ivor: | anyone know their gnome backwards? |
| [21:58:00] | dev-: | yeah i buttfuk him all the time |
| [21:58:00] | kormoc: | ivor, I do know gnome is backwards... |
| [21:58:00] | dev-: | oh, backwards not backside |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | emong? |
| [21:58:00] | ivor: | kormoc: I can't argue with that... |
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| [21:58:00] | ivor: | why have they removed all the options... and then hidden the ones they had left. damnit. |
| [21:59:00] | jams: | perhaps laga the gardengnome can help |
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| [21:59:00] | ivor: | all I want is it to display the dimensions of a window as it resizes.... like you can do in twm , kde, fwvm.. and any other window manager.... |
| [22:00:00] | dev-: | nice, its not just remote encoders that do it |
| [22:00:00] | dev-: | even the local ones, sweet. |
| [22:00:00] | dev-: | great livetv changes guys </sarcasm> |
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| [22:04:00] | juski_: | here I go – bootming minimyth for the nth time tonight |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | well, dev-, I don't see you doing anything but whining, so... |
| [22:04:00] | Ediehow: | hi, i upgraded to .19, and for some reason, today, http://localhost/mythweb just shows a dir |
| [22:04:00] | dev-: | i guess you need to scroll up to the part where i tried to debug it |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | Ediehow: read the mythweb readme maybe? |
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| [22:05:00] | juski_: | waiting for remote control device? wtf?! |
| [22:05:00] | Ediehow: | hmm, yeah, i have the new mythweb p[ackage |
| [22:05:00] | Ediehow: | mythweb-0.19–71.at |
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| [22:06:00] | dev-: | at first i thought it was a remote encoder problem, because i have a master and slave backend. 2 encoders in each |
| [22:06:00] | dev-: | but its not. |
| [22:06:00] | juski_: | changed minimyth.conf again... come on you bugger |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | Ediehow: I'm not sure exactly, but it's likely a mod-rewrite issue |
| [22:07:00] | dev-: | soon as a show on livetv ends and myth goes to change to the new file, the frontend studders for a second then freezes. but the file itself keeps getting written to as if the frontend is still viewing it |
| [22:07:00] | Ediehow: | Beirdo: that changed from .18 to .19? |
| [22:07:00] | Agrajag-: | does anyone know what to change in the theme xml to change the number of items that appear on each page? there's heaps of space but i have to scroll through to see all menu items |
| [22:07:00] | dev-: | no obvious errors in the logs, and im not the only one with this problem |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | Ediehow: LOTS changed |
| [22:07:00] | dev-: | Ediehow: not much changed in mythweb itself, but it has some rewrite rules now and other crap that needs allowoverride all set in httpd.conf |
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| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | dev-: have you looked for bug reports? |
| [22:07:00] | juski_: | Agrajag: look for 'row |
| [22:07:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: yes. didnt find anything. |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | um, quite a bit changed in mythweb |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | mod_env |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | mod_rewrite |
| [22:08:00] | juski_: | 'rows' in theme.xml |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | it looks much the same, but it got a decent beginning of an overhaul |
| [22:08:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: yeah? it has a welcome page i saw. it can show livetv recordings. still can set any mythtv settings in it, it shows a show thats currently recording in upcoming recordings which is nice |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | so it seems that's being loaded |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | if i go to mythweb.php |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | The database environment variables are not correctly set in the |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | included .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | in the file and set up the db_* environment variables correctly. |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | Ediehow: check your apache logs, etc |
| [22:09:00] | juski_: | 'over current charge on port5'.. wahhhh! |
| [22:09:00] | Ediehow: | LoadModule env_module modules/mod_env.so |
| [22:09:00] | Ediehow: | that's in there too |
| [22:09:00] | Ediehow: | so both those modules should be loaded, right? |
| [22:09:00] | dev-: | mythweb still does what i liked about it in .18, so thats good. but i freaking hate livetv now with its individual recordgins that you cant turn off, etc |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | read what you just pasted |
| [22:09:00] | dev-: | the fact all my frontends lockup when a show ends and new one starts in livetv |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | vi .htaccess |
| [22:09:00] | Ediehow: | Beirdo: i didn't paste what followed, saying to verify mod_env |
| [22:09:00] | Ediehow: | k |
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| [22:10:00] | dev-: | Ediehow: the readme tells you exactly what you need to do... you shouldnt have any of these questions. |
| [22:10:00] | Ediehow: | dev-: i wouldn't have checked those two modules if i'd not gotten them from the readme |
| [22:10:00] | juski_: | loooks like my home-made lirc receiver needs an overhaul |
| [22:11:00] | Ediehow: | the .htaccess file seems to have the correct db_stuff |
| [22:11:00] | dev-: | a few people would be happy to get this livetv lockup straightened out |
| [22:11:00] | dev-: | especially since its new to .19. |
| [22:12:00] | Ediehow: | what is confusing me is i had the rpms for .18, and i upgraded to the rpms of .19, and everything but mythweb works |
| [22:12:00] | dev-: | 11614 root 15 0 1493m 364m 27m S 20.9 72.4 2:02.75 mythfrontend |
| [22:12:00] | dev-: | LOL nice. |
| [22:13:00] | dev-: | at least .18 took a month or so to read that kind of mem usage |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | 4921 root 16 0 20928 17M 13136 S 0.0 3.4 1:38 0 mythbackend |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | 5232 root 15 0 70756 17M 7696 S 0.0 3.4 32:34 0 mythfrontend |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | not sure what you borked |
| [22:13:00] | dev-: | perhaps its this livetv crap |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | perhaps |
| [22:14:00] | dev-: | at least im not the only one |
| [22:14:00] | dev-: | so you guys will have to fix it eventually |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | [gjhurlbu@pint gjhurlbu]$ uptime |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | 17:14:06 up 378 days, 14:38, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 |
| [22:14:00] | dev-: | in the meantime i think i'll just downgrade heh |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | good luck with the downgrade |
| [22:14:00] | Baylink: | memleak? |
| [22:14:00] | Baylink: | And who watches live TV, anyway? |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | maybe try running it with valgrind or something, see if there's a memory leak |
| [22:15:00] | dev-: | 17:15:05 up 2:20, 3 users, load average: 0.61, 0.51, 0.56 |
| [22:15:00] | dev-: | power went out for 2hrs today ;) |
| [22:15:00] | dev-: | 1.5gig in 2hours in awesome |
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| [22:16:00] | tweak_st: | does lvm make different physical drives look like one logical one? |
| [22:16:00] | sandos: | hmmpf |
| [22:16:00] | sandos: | anyone using a VGA -> SCART-RGB cable? |
| [22:16:00] | kormoc: | tweak_st, it can, aye |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | tweak_st: kinda |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | it makes it look like a bunch of logical devices |
| [22:16:00] | tweak_st: | need something like it so i can add new drives without much fuss |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | LVM is great for that |
| [22:17:00] | dev-: | beirdo/baylink : either of you use a master and slavebackend with several frontends? |
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| [22:17:00] | tweak_st: | cool |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | although if a drive dies... it can be nasty (unless they've fixed that now) |
| [22:17:00] | tweak_st: | well i plan on using raid |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | dev-: have a slave backend, yes. only one frontend |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | ah. |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | RAID with LVM on top... good plan |
| [22:17:00] | dev-: | did you live your hd ringbuffer at the default 9meg or did you increase it? |
| [22:18:00] | dev-: | s/live/leave |
| [22:18:00] | tweak_st: | sarcasm? |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | no idea |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do live TV |
| [22:18:00] | dev-: | i hope some of the devs do heh |
| [22:19:00] | Ediehow: | dev-: in the config/conf.php, can i change server_domain to localhost? |
| [22:19:00] | kormoc: | dev-, what ringbuffer? |
| [22:19:00] | dev-: | livetv ring buffer... |
| [22:19:00] | kormoc: | dev-, my understanding is that is gone now |
| [22:20:00] | dev-: | negative. its just not the same kind of ringbuffer |
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| [22:20:00] | kormoc: | dev-, ooh? |
| [22:20:00] | the_login: | hello |
| [22:20:00] | kormoc: | dev-, care to explain? |
| [22:20:00] | dev-: | kormoc: you can find it in settings->tvsettings->general |
| [22:20:00] | dev-: | "hd ringbuffer size" |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | dev-, I do beleive that's a depericated option |
| [22:21:00] | dev-: | has livetv been deprecated too is that why it doesnt work? |
| [22:21:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | dev-, not at all, but live tv is now just done as instantly scheduled recordings. |
| [22:22:00] | briand: | livetv works fine on my system, under 0.19 |
| [22:22:00] | Ediehow: | dev-: so it'd be like define('home', $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] ? $ |
| [22:22:00] | Ediehow: | change server_name to whatever ? |
| [22:22:00] | dev-: | briand: have you watched livetv past the current shows time, like say, 2 episodes of the simpsons back to back? |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | dev-, hence why it shows up instantly on the recorded tv list, and allows to be streamed to clients. |
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| [22:22:00] | sanmarcos: | how can I set Live TV to auto expire? |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | gotta go |
| [22:22:00] | briand: | dev-: no, not yet. lemme guess, tho... there's a two second pause? |
| [22:22:00] | dev-: | kormoc: yes, which is a nifty feature i thought at first. until i watched livetv for a couple of hours, then when it switched between shows, the frontend locked up and i had to exit/resume livetv |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | sanmarcos, it does automatically. |
| [22:23:00] | dev-: | kormoc: im not the only one whos run into this problem, and i wasnt able to find a bug report for it |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | dev-, mine does not do that |
| [22:23:00] | dev-: | briand: even better, for me, it stops |
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| [22:23:00] | dev-: | kormoc: lucky you :) |
| [22:23:00] | briand: | hmm. well, i'll go try it. should be a show ending in 7 minutes |
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| [22:23:00] | sanmarcos: | kormoc: hmm what does auto expire ean ? Reuse the disk space' |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | dev-, I get the 2 second pause, as it switches to the new file. |
| [22:24:00] | kormoc: | sanmarcos, yes, it automatically deletes the old shows |
| [22:24:00] | kormoc: | dev-, but it works fine |
| [22:24:00] | dev-: | my frontend pauses for 2 seconds, then dies |
| [22:24:00] | dev-: | image stays on screen, freezes, no sound, but the file is recording |
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| [22:25:00] | dev-: | kormoc: do you use a standalone box or multiple frontends with a master and slave backend? |
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| [22:26:00] | Ediehow: | dev-: conf.php says it should work by default? |
| [22:26:00] | sanmarcos: | kormoc: in my recordings folders, when I am watching live tv, not recording anything I get mpg files, are those the ring buffers Myth uses for rewidingin / pausing?, how come those files dont get deleted when I restart mythfrontend? |
| [22:26:00] | juski_: | heh. now I think my custom xorg.conf was failing because... it couldn't find the keyboard device.. figures cos there's not one plugged in |
| [22:26:00] | dev-: | Ediehow: i dont recall editing conf.php |
| [22:26:00] | juski_: | yep I was right |
| [22:26:00] | dev-: | just .htaccess and my apache config.. |
| [22:28:00] | Ediehow: | in the .htaccess file, you just edited setenv db_server "localhost" |
| [22:28:00] | Ediehow: | lines? |
| [22:28:00] | dev-: | i edited what needed to be edited for my setup |
| [22:29:00] | dev-: | dont recall line by line heh |
| [22:29:00] | achew22: | Hey All! |
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| [22:30:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 17:30:03.533 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 17:30:04.329 RingBuf(myth://192.168.0.80:6543/1023_20060217172057.mpg ): Timing out wait due to impending livetv switch. |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 17:30:04.933 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 17:30:05.357 RingBuf(myth://192.168.0.80:6543/1023_20060217172057.mpg ): Waited too long for ringbuffer pause.. |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | 2006-02–17 17:30:06.333 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | over and over and over again |
| [22:30:00] | dev-: | awesomeness!!!!!!111111oneoneoneone |
| [22:30:00] | Ediehow: | i wonder what i am missing |
| [22:31:00] | Ediehow: | i mean, i have db_* |
| [22:31:00] | dev-: | whats the error? |
| [22:31:00] | Kelerion-flux: | kormoc, getting *so* close with with xorg now.. lol |
| [22:31:00] | Ediehow: | well, http://localhost/mythweb just shows dirs |
| [22:32:00] | briand: | dev-: absolutely nothing (noticeable) happened here, as the 5:00 program ended and the 5:30 program started. Didn't see a pause, hiccup, or anything. |
| [22:32:00] | dev-: | briand: you use a standalone box or backends and frontends |
| [22:33:00] | briand: | dev-: i have a combined frontend/backend machine |
| [22:33:00] | dev-: | Ediehow: something isnt right because it should at least error 500 if an .htaccess is there and the right apache settings arent set, like allowoverride... so i dunno, doublecheck your stuff |
| [22:33:00] | dev-: | hrm maybe thats it |
| [22:33:00] | sanmarcos: | how does myth handle to pause rewind live tv if it doesnt save any data to the hd? |
| [22:33:00] | briand: | I do have a bug report for xris, though.... |
| [22:33:00] | Kelerion-flux: | it *does* save data |
| [22:33:00] | dev-: | lol it saves data to the hd.. |
| [22:34:00] | sanmarcos: | people have told me it does not.. |
| [22:34:00] | sanmarcos: | where does it save it, to the recordings folder? |
| [22:34:00] | dev-: | maybe people think you're guilable |
| [22:34:00] | dev-: | yes |
| [22:34:00] | Kelerion-flux: | whereever you've told it to save to |
| [22:34:00] | sanmarcos: | as .mpg files, I have a PVR 350 |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | briand: http://svn.siliconmechanice.com |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | crap, wrong url, *and* I typo'd it |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | briand: http://svn.mythtv.org |
| [22:34:00] | briand: | xris: in the "welcome" screen for mythweb, the "Visit MythTV.org" is stationary in Firefox on my linux boxes, but jumps all over the place (obscuring text) when you mouse over the various menu items in IE on my WinXP machines. |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | lol. you'll have to wait for someone with IE to send me a patch.. I don't run windows |
| [22:35:00] | briand: | well, it's an HTML/PHP error, not an IE error. |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | but go ahead and put in a bug |
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| [22:36:00] | xris: | right. but if I can't test it, I can't fix it |
| [22:36:00] | briand: | all right.. i'll see if I can take a look at it. where would you like the bug report, on siliconmechanics? |
| [22:36:00] | dev-: | are there problems with the db when tryin to downgrade from .19 back to .18.1?> |
| [22:37:00] | Chutt: | you can't downgrade |
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| [22:37:00] | dev-: | oh yippy. so im stuck with this livetv problem |
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| [22:37:00] | kormoc: | sanmarcos, they are actually the recording, you can rewind and exit and come back and watch them later. The ringbuffer is gone |
| [22:37:00] | {jasper}: | can anyone help me with serial port setup? |
| [22:37:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: did you upgrade to .19? |
| [22:37:00] | juski_: | I've always wanted to say this... |
| [22:37:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [22:37:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, yup |
| [22:37:00] | Kelerion-flux: | you can't downgrade – it's illegal and immoral and unethical :) |
| [22:37:00] | Chutt: | could always, try to debug it :p |
| [22:37:00] | juski_: | I've got green lines on the outside of the video.. wah! |
| [22:37:00] | Ediehow: | well, it seems to work for me except mythweb just shows dir |
| [22:38:00] | Ediehow: | http://localhost/mythweb |
| [22:38:00] | dev-: | Chutt: i did try, scoured through the backend logs and cant find what the problem is |
| [22:38:00] | dev-: | Chutt: interesting thing, im not the only one with this problem. at least one other person |
| [22:38:00] | Chutt: | well, logs don't really tell you that much |
| [22:38:00] | Chutt: | unless you're already familiar with the code |
| [22:38:00] | Ediehow: | are you supposed to actually go to http://localhost/mythweb/mythweb.php? |
| [22:38:00] | Chutt: | a frontend -v playback might help |
| [22:39:00] | dev-: | i was looking at frontend -v all logs and backend -v all logs as well |
| [22:39:00] | dev-: | frontend apparently cant open the new recording file, even though it exists |
| [22:39:00] | juski_: | bastard.. this new minimyth, when it shuts down does a _full_ shutdown so I can no longer use WoL |
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| [22:39:00] | dev-: | and the backend doesnt report a problem with the file or any error from the frontend trying to access it |
| [22:39:00] | Chutt: | -v all is waaay too verbose to use |
| [22:40:00] | dev-: | its fine if you grep out things that dont matter to you, like i figured out it wasnt a problem with mysql so i greped out msql lines |
| [22:40:00] | dev-: | *shrug* ;p |
| [22:40:00] | briand: | xris: is there a way to get an account on the MythTV trac? I see a login, but no 'register' ... |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | Chutt: so why cant i downgrade |
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| [22:41:00] | xris: | briand: not yet. |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | i understand id have to rename a few files and change some things in mysql manually to point to .nuv again.. |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | only devs have accounts for now |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | but what else? |
| [22:41:00] | Chutt: | there's other changes |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | but you can configure your session info with an email address, etc. |
| [22:42:00] | Chutt: | couldn't go through and tell you them all, though |
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| [22:42:00] | dev-: | isnt one sql script in the source that does it eh |
| [22:42:00] | Chutt: | dbcheck.cpp |
| [22:42:00] | briand: | xris: okay. whatever. |
| [22:43:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: ? |
| [22:43:00] | briand: | it's not my program, so if you don't want/need my help.. that's fine. I've plenty of programming to do elsewhere. |
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| [22:44:00] | xris: | briand: the problem is that trac auth works via htauth... so at the moment the only way to get an acct is to manually add it to the htpasswd file |
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| [22:45:00] | xris: | we're working on a way for people to sign up on their own... it just isn't ready yet |
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| [22:46:00] | dev-: | this doesnt look bad at all to undue |
| [22:46:00] | dev-: | i dunno whos bright idea it was to think a 2 second pause in livetv would be liveable |
| [22:46:00] | dev-: | even if it did work here :P |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | maybe you guys will fix it someday and upgrade again |
| [22:47:00] | {jasper}: | dev do you know how to setup my serial port |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | oh, i could just use a backup instead lol. drr. should have thought of that before |
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| [22:47:00] | dev-: | probably, but i have enough to do myself ;p |
| [22:47:00] | Chutt: | things don't get fixed if people just downgrade |
| [22:47:00] | {jasper}: | 8( |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | Chutt: im no developer, i setup HA clusters for companies to put their software on |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | i dont make the osftware ;/' |
| [22:48:00] | juski_: | I' |
| [22:48:00] | Chutt: | just sayin.. |
| [22:48:00] | Chutt: | bugs don't go away if people ignore them |
| [22:48:00] | briand: | xris: ah. 'k. |
| [22:48:00] | kormoc: | dev-, but you can get backtraces of the issue so the coders can fix it |
| [22:49:00] | juski_: | is anyone on top of the preview video window colour messiness? |
| [22:50:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [22:50:00] | juski_: | I can live with it |
| [22:50:00] | Chutt: | GreyFoxx has said he'd look at it |
| [22:50:00] | dev-: | how can i get you guys backtraces before i downgrade |
| [22:50:00] | dev-: | at least one other person has this problem, so it would be nice for you guys to see |
| [22:50:00] | dev-: | but the fiance will never let me hear the end of it if i just leave it like this |
| [22:51:00] | Chutt: | a backtrace won't help, nor will logs |
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| [22:51:00] | dev-: | okie heh |
| [22:51:00] | juski_: | it's the other faults in minimyth I need to report... video quality has gone _down_, it no longer fills the screen in overscan mode... bah.. and dvd playback isn't working anymore |
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| [22:51:00] | dev-: | Chutt: at least you cant say im ignoreing the bug :P |
| [22:51:00] | juski_: | that, and WoL no longer works (how the hell I don't know) |
| [22:52:00] | Jasper: | hmm dmesg | grep tty gives no reply |
| [22:52:00] | Jasper: | that's bad right ? :p |
| [22:52:00] | juski_: | Jasper: I got issues of my own still |
| [22:52:00] | juski_: | I really don't want to have to resort to building my own diskless image |
| [22:52:00] | Jasper: | k juski_, are you updating mythtv? |
| [22:53:00] | juski_: | backend went fairly smoothly |
| [22:53:00] | juski_: | minimyth on the other hand... |
| [22:54:00] | juski_: | new recordings worked, so I'm confident the backend is fine |
| [22:54:00] | dev-: | good luck with livetv ;/ |
| [22:55:00] | juski_: | and mythbackend seems not to need the EIT patch |
| [22:55:00] | juski_: | dev: don't use (and won't use) livetv |
| [22:55:00] | juski_: | wakefront |
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| [22:55:00] | juski_: | doh |
| [22:56:00] | scottder: | I see a t-shirt "MythTV....TV isn't worth watching till it's Commflagged!" |
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| [22:57:00] | juski_: | or... "it's not about LIVE TV.. it's about MythTV ;-) " |
| [22:59:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/560324 |
| [22:59:00] | Ediehow: | that's the error i get |
| [23:00:00] | Ediehow: | for mythweb with .19 |
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| [23:01:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: can you _read_ ? |
| [23:01:00] | Ediehow: | Juski: can you? |
| [23:01:00] | Ediehow: | i checked those env variables |
| [23:01:00] | dev-: | only watching recorded tv is nice, but you cant plan out what shows you're going to watch *every* day |
| [23:02:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/560330 |
| [23:02:00] | dev-: | at least, in the year ive been useing myth i havent been able to. still go to livetv sometimes. |
| [23:02:00] | Ediehow: | see, i set them |
| [23:02:00] | briand: | xris: #1317 |
| [23:02:00] | Juski: | dev-: I can hardly keep up with my recordings |
| [23:02:00] | briand: | evening, Juski. :) |
| [23:02:00] | dev-: | same :) but i still look for other things sometimes :) |
| [23:02:00] | Juski: | evening briand |
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| [23:02:00] | dev-: | channel surfing is still fun. though much, much harder to do on .19 |
| [23:03:00] | dev-: | its a good 2–3seconds to change channels now |
| [23:03:00] | Juski: | aha! took me logging into a vnc session to see the xine error... |
| [23:03:00] | dev-: | used to take 1 second before, that was aggrevating heh |
| [23:03:00] | briand: | I *love* how MythWeb now distinguishes shows/episodes/movies that you've previously recorded in the Listings... that's fantastic! |
| [23:04:00] | Juski: | I *love* how little time mythmusic now takes to load |
| [23:04:00] | tweak_st: | the whole point of mythtv is to record what you want to watch and watch it when you want, no? |
| [23:04:00] | dev-: | distinguishes shows/episodes? didnt it always do that? |
| [23:04:00] | dev-: | tweak_st: thats part of it, yes, its also so you can pause livetv |
| [23:04:00] | Ediehow: | i set allowoverride to options |
| [23:04:00] | Ediehow: | but i still get a directory |
| [23:04:00] | tweak_st: | yeah that part is fun |
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| [23:05:00] | Ediehow: | err, i set it to options, and now i get internal server error |
| [23:06:00] | dev-: | i dont believe options is enough |
| [23:06:00] | dev-: | set it to all. |
| [23:06:00] | briand: | ..but, because I once recorded the local news, and on a different occasion, recorded the national news... they always show up as 'previously recorded' (because in the listings database, they have the same "original airdate" [== 1957!!], and are marked as 'reruns'. I might suggest that the "rerun" flag and "original airdate" be _ignored_ when the program's category == "News" |
| [23:06:00] | tweak_st: | Juski did you have problems with the visualizations? |
| [23:07:00] | Juski: | tweak_st: I don't use em |
| [23:07:00] | Ediehow: | dev-: did you create a /var/www/mythweb directory thing in httpd.conf? |
| [23:07:00] | dev-: | no because i dont have anything else on my master backend that uses apache |
| [23:08:00] | Juski: | I might use the albumart one when I get my music DB back on track though |
| [23:08:00] | dev-: | so i gues the focus of .19 was mythmusic |
| [23:08:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [23:08:00] | dev-: | 'who cares about livetv, lets release this busted thing' :) |
| [23:09:00] | tweak_st: | theres one that uses albumart?? |
| [23:09:00] | tweak_st: | i was thinking of adding that in |
| [23:09:00] | tweak_st: | link pls! |
| [23:09:00] | Juski: | in mythvideo my remote's menu button doesn't bring up the options anymore (like choosing gallery, browse, list).. has that key changed? |
| [23:10:00] | tweak_st: | juski is that the settings or watch videos? |
| [23:11:00] | Juski: | watch videos |
| [23:11:00] | tweak_st: | mine works fine |
| [23:11:00] | jams: | Juski- works for me |
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| [23:12:00] | jams: | post .19 |
| [23:13:00] | Juski: | must be my lircrc file... maybe copied the wrong one across |
| [23:15:00] | tweak_st: | Juski does the svn mythmusic have albumart now? |
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| [23:15:00] | Juski: | I dunno haven't got that far yet |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | trying to sort DVD playback |
| [23:15:00] | jams: | albumart has been around for a while |
| [23:16:00] | tweak_st: | wha? |
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| [23:17:00] | Ediehow: | oh poopie |
| [23:17:00] | Ediehow: | The requested URL /mythweb/ was not found on this server. |
| [23:18:00] | Ediehow: | that's after i put this in httpd.conf |
| [23:19:00] | Ediehow: | oh woops |
| [23:19:00] | Ediehow: | got it!:) |
| [23:20:00] | juski_: | libdvdcss.. damn you!! |
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| [23:20:00] | juski_: | bastard evil macrovision corporation |
| [23:21:00] | mishehu: | pee on them. |
| [23:21:00] | juski_: | I wouldn't |
| [23:21:00] | juski_: | not even if they were on fire |
| [23:22:00] | juski_: | I think I just left a ldconfig line out of my minimyth.conf |
| [23:23:00] | juski_: | nope |
| [23:25:00] | briand: | maybe I'll work on a new theme (or two) this weekend... |
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| [23:25:00] | juski_: | or two? feeling hopeful? |
| [23:25:00] | jams: | wow 2 themes in a weekend that would be impressive |
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| [23:26:00] | juski_: | 2 crap themes in a weekend would be possible I guess |
| [23:26:00] | juski_: | change the backgrounds & just knock em out |
| [23:26:00] | briand: | juski_: do you know me? |
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| [23:27:00] | juski_: | briand? knocking one theme in one weekend would be impressive |
| [23:27:00] | briand: | juski_: (that was rhetorical)... because, unless you know somebody, there's really no way to know how capable they are of doing anything. |
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| [23:27:00] | briand: | juski_: ..unless you were just generically slamming people for the heck of it. |
| [23:27:00] | ircsloth: | can someone tell me how I can disable the auto commercial flagging job? My mythbox seems to be crashing and I read that this can often be one of the causes on the knoppmyth wiki |
| [23:28:00] | Chutt: | briand, notice the big huge 'guide for submitting features requests, bugs, and patches' link at the top of the new ticket page? |
| [23:28:00] | Chutt: | no, of course you didn't |
| [23:28:00] | Chutt: | why do i even bother asking |
| [23:28:00] | briand: | ircsloth: turn off commercial flagging in setup. |
| [23:28:00] | ircsloth: | I checked the crontabs on the box and can't find any jobs |
| [23:28:00] | juski_: | briand: no I was just saying... there's a hell of a lot of work in putting a new theme together – far more than is first apparent |
| [23:28:00] | briand: | Chutt: what are you on about?? |
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| [23:29:00] | Chutt: | go read that link. |
| [23:29:00] | Chutt: | here, i'll even paste the appropriate section for you |
| [23:29:00] | Jasper: | hmm It appears I had to change rc_device_tarball to no instead of yes to get my serial ports working juski_ |
| [23:29:00] | Chutt: | First, please verify that: |
| [23:29:00] | juski_: | jams: would you agree? kinda makes you wish you'd never started it sometimes |
| [23:29:00] | Chutt: | That this is really a bug, and not a feature request. Feature requests should go in the wiki. |
| [23:29:00] | jams: | Juski- got that right |
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| [23:29:00] | jams: | the plugins can really bog you down |
| [23:29:00] | jams: | especially the plugins you dont care about =) |
| [23:30:00] | juski_: | mythvideo, especially.. that's a beast – admittedly not as much as ui.xml is ;-) |
| [23:30:00] | briand: | Chutt: yes, I've read that. So, you think having something work correctly is a "feature request" ??? |
| [23:30:00] | eye69: | Hello. I'm having trouble finding where I can limit the maximum time (or space) that the livetv buffer can use. |
| [23:30:00] | Chutt: | sure it is |
| [23:30:00] | Chutt: | it works correctly now. |
| [23:30:00] | briand: | No it doesn't. |
| [23:30:00] | Chutt: | um |
| [23:30:00] | Chutt: | the data you're getting is bad. |
| [23:30:00] | Chutt: | that's myth's fault? |
| [23:30:00] | juski_: | eye69: it'll take as much disk on the recording partition as you've got |
| [23:30:00] | kormoc: | eye69, there is no live tv buffer. it's stored the same as normal recordsing, with it se tot autoexpire first. |
| [23:31:00] | briand: | I believe that's flagged as an "enhancement" for that reason. |
| [23:31:00] | briand: | ..ie: not a bug. ..but something that requires programming to 'fix' |
| [23:31:00] | jams: | Juski- i'm hoping the new ui will reduce the redundancy in the themes |
| [23:31:00] | Chutt: | ie, feature request. |
| [23:31:00] | eye69: | juski_: So there's no way to limit? My partitioning scheme is quite suboptimal, so I only have 5.5GB on / for playing around right now. |
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| [23:32:00] | briand: | but, since 99% of the north american users are getting their data from the same place... it is going to affect 99% of the North American users. |
| [23:32:00] | naetrick: | Is MythTv's commercial skip for playback only? |
| [23:32:00] | kormoc: | eye69, when your disk space gets low, it autodeletes old recordings to make room for new ones |
| [23:32:00] | juski_: | jams: I'm hoping the new ui will do a lot of things ;-) |
| [23:32:00] | jams: | so true |
| [23:33:00] | eye69: | kormoc: Ok, so having a separate partition (or one that I don't care if it gets full) is the only way? |
| [23:33:00] | jams: | guess we just have to wait for chutt to get some free time |
| [23:33:00] | briand: | Chutt: "As a feature, I'd like MythWeb not to flag as "previously recorded" shows that I obviously haven't (or couldn't!) previously record." Something like that? |
| [23:33:00] | kormoc: | eye69, I beleive you can set the admount it thinks is low, but I don't know how well that would work for you. |
| [23:33:00] | Chutt: | for the wiki? |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | briand: I've never seen such behavior |
| [23:33:00] | Chutt: | first off, it's not mythweb doing the flagging |
| [23:33:00] | kormoc: | eye69, and recording tv takes up a lot of room, 5.5g isn't a lot at all |
| [23:34:00] | juski_: | quick question (OT) about xorg.conf without a keyboard configured... would I just wipe out any mention of keyboard/mouse devices? |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | eye69, if you only want to do live tv, tvtime/xawtv might be better options |
| [23:34:00] | chuggachu: | is there a fix for the signed packages problem using yum? |
| [23:34:00] | briand: | Beirdo: record tonight's ABC Nightly News. Every ABC Nightly news after that will show up in mythweb's listings as "previously recorded" |
| [23:34:00] | naetrick: | Anyone? |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | then change the duplicate policy |
| [23:35:00] | eye69: | kormoc: I was asking as a temporary measure until I can fix my partitioning. |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | give me a moment for it to load up my huge recording schedules page :) |
| [23:35:00] | briand: | to what? it's marked as a 'rerun' with an original airdate years old. |
| [23:35:00] | juski_: | naetrick: commflagging affects recorded programs upon playback, but some utils like mythburn (bah!) and nuvexport.. and even lossless transcode will chop out commercials |
| [23:36:00] | briand: | the subtitle is always the same, the main title is always the same but, alas.. .the news is not always the same. ;) |
| [23:36:00] | eye69: | kormoc: I found something saying 1GB, but that doesn't seem to have helped. |
| [23:36:00] | briand: | I'm not sure if this affects the scheduler — (hm.. i should check that) I think it's just a display thing in mythweb. |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | Duplicate Check method: when you setup the recording |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | and mythweb just shows what the scheduler tells it |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | which is what Chutt was trying to tell you.. It's NOT mythweb that determines what's previously recorded |
| [23:39:00] | Anduin: | Beirdo – I don't think that is true anymore, there was that mythweb patch awhile ago that did some manual merge thing. |
| [23:39:00] | Chutt: | why i changed it to 'mythtv', not 'mythweb' |
| [23:39:00] | Chutt: | unless xris is ignoring that data |
| [23:39:00] | naetrick: | juski_: Ok, thanks... I thought I told nuvexport to do so, though... does mythcommflag cut out commercials, or just check for them? |
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| [23:40:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski you there?? |
| [23:40:00] | juski_: | mythcommflag merely looks for them & sets flags accordingly |
| [23:40:00] | Anduin: | Chutt – It was part of that "I want to know if I ever recorded a movie" thing a while back, who knows I'm probably wrong again. |
| [23:40:00] | juski_: | not now Pitchin_uk |
| [23:40:00] | Chutt: | Anduin, heh |
| [23:40:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok |
| [23:40:00] | juski_: | just got to beat DVD playback into submission |
| [23:40:00] | Chutt: | well, xris can straighten it out |
| [23:40:00] | juski_: | among other things |
| [23:40:00] | Chutt: | i have to figure out what in this ffmpeg merge broke ts playback |
| [23:41:00] | Pitchin_uk: | nope probs – just to let you know i have successfully ran mythfilldatabase |
| [23:41:00] | Pitchin_uk: | all it took was patience |
| [23:41:00] | naetrick: | juski_: That I did... I used "myth cutlist", yet it didn't cut them out |
| [23:41:00] | Beirdo: | my stupid wireless needs fixing with a sledgehammer |
| [23:41:00] | juski_: | Pitchin_uk: cool... |
| [23:41:00] | bmbler: | Hi. Is this the right place to ask questions about getting ivtv loaded? (I get "ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw" in the log. Thi sfile does exist under /lib/hotplug/. I am using ubuntu dapper.) |
| [23:41:00] | Pitchin_uk: | question for the floor how do i remove channels |
| [23:42:00] | juski_: | Pitchin_uk: if you're using DVB (freeview) set them to invisible or they'll come back like a bad smell |
| [23:42:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok |
| [23:42:00] | briand: | Anduin: ...and I *love* having the "I want to know if I've recorded this movie before" thing... but there are some categories where it is impractical ('news', and possibly 'newsmagazine') |
| [23:43:00] | Chutt: | briand, if mythweb's doing it's own 'recorded before' detection, then i was wrong, and it's certainly a mythweb bug |
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| [23:44:00] | briand: | Chutt: well, not a 'bug' per-se.. in that it's only reporting (as you intimated) what it has been told from the database. I did, indeed, previously record "ABC World News Tonight" and that show's original airdate is the same as tonight's... |
| [23:44:00] | briand: | ..but some analysis and clever coding can get around Tribune Media's lazy channel editors.. :) |
| [23:45:00] | briand: | (I can say that because I know them, personally ... well, not all of them, but quite a few of them) |
| [23:45:00] | Pitchin_uk: | at least i can do that through mythweb!! |
| [23:45:00] | Chutt: | naw, it'd be a bug if it's not joining the data properly |
| [23:45:00] | juski_: | Pitchin_uk: you can in 0.19 anyway ;) |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | too bad xris isn't here to help decipher |
| [23:46:00] | briand: | Chutt: I'll check to make sure it isn't also affecting the scheduler, thus preventing recording subsequent showings... |
| [23:46:00] | Pitchin_uk: | how easy is it to upgrade?? |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | I get the fun of having 4 wisdom teeth yanked tomorrow |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [23:46:00] | briand: | yeowch. |
| [23:46:00] | Ediehow: | Beirdo: so how is harper? |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | how should I know? |
| [23:47:00] | briand: | Beirdo: have they already done the x-rays? are they simple extractions, or do they need to do some fairly intensive oral surgery? |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | heh, one of em will be a PAIN |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | but we shall see |
| [23:47:00] | briand: | (ie: are they impacted wisdom teeth?) |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | the best part: no dental insurance. :) |
| [23:48:00] | briand: | well, i wish you the best... there is -nothing- more debilitating than a toothache. |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | sure there is |
| [23:48:00] | briand: | Beirdo: been there, done that. bled on the t-shirt. |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | migraine |
| [23:48:00] | briand: | possibly linked. ;) |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | true enough |
| [23:48:00] | briand: | i used to have migraines... how's your caffeine intake? |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | so after noon tomorrow, I will likely be doped up for a while |
| [23:48:00] | bmbler: | Where is the pvr-150 firmware supposed to be located? (dmesg reports "ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw") |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | I get migraines occasionally. |
| [23:49:00] | briand: | i haven't had a migraine since I started drinking coffee regularly (at about 14 years of age) |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | not recently, thankfully, all recent headaches have been directly stress related, or caffeine withdrawl |
| [23:49:00] | juski_: | cool – dvd playback works now, but the bottom few lines are the wrong colour. |
| [23:49:00] | briand: | and, as it turns out, caffeine pills are regularly prescribed for persistent migraine sufferers. |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | my caffeine intake is too high |
| [23:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:50:00] | briand: | mine used to be... i might drink 10–15 cups of coffee per day, now. |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | !? |
| [23:50:00] | briand: | ...used to be in the 50–60 cup range! |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | holy crap |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | my 2-carafe-a-day is down to 2-cups a day |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | and it's still too much |
| [23:50:00] | briand: | and, no, before you ask.. I have -no- trouble sleeping. |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | I can believe it |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | kicking that habit will frigging hurt |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | trust me |
| [23:51:00] | briand: | it just doesn't keep me awake.... conversely, it doesn't "wake me up" either. |
| [23:51:00] | sphery: | Chutt: Your response to the latest comment on #1024 is classic... lol. |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | cutting it down to 2 cups a day or so will be a week of hell |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | so bought lots of "nutritious" liquids like V8... |
| [23:52:00] | bmbler: | Where is the pvr-150 firmware supposed to be located? (dmesg reports "ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw") |
| [23:52:00] | Beirdo: | something tells me my 96h of recorded TV will be trimmed WAY down soon :) |
| [23:52:00] | Beirdo: | bmbler, I dunno, read the ivtv docs? |
| [23:53:00] | rjune: | xris: you around? |
| [23:53:00] | Yellow-Snow: | arg i still cant figure out how to run vncserver via startup |
| [23:53:00] | briand: | Beirdo: why do you feel compelled to cut down on coffee? |
| [23:54:00] | Ediehow: | anyone upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3? any problems? |
| [23:54:00] | Ediehow: | ivtv |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | rjune: ? |
| [23:54:00] | Beirdo: | briand: high blood pressure |
| [23:54:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [23:54:00] | bmbler: | I think I have, and it appears to need to be in /lib/firmware/kernel-version/ or /lib/hotplug/firmware. I placed it in both and still get the same error. |
| [23:54:00] | briand: | yeah, that'd do it. |
| [23:54:00] | Beirdo: | and all round general health reasons |
| [23:54:00] | rjune: | xris: you were building RPMs for SVN myth right? |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | rjune: I do, yes |
| [23:54:00] | Beirdo: | being too addicted to caffeine isn't good for me. YMMV |
| [23:54:00] | briand: | Mine stays fairly regularly at 120/72, despite the caffeine. |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | bastard |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | my last was 140/100 |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:55:00] | rjune: | You sent me the URL for the SRPMs a while ago, but I had my email borked, could I get it again |
| [23:55:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: I was asked if I was dead |
| [23:55:00] | briand: | yeah, well.. you're probably better looking than I am, and attract a higher quality of female. there's always trade-offs. |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | rjune: http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc |
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| [23:55:00] | xris: | I made some changes last night to make them work with svn |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | but haven't posted that yet |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | briand, I attracted the ONE that I wanted, that's all that matters to me |
| [23:56:00] | briand: | there ya go... and I like your attitude. :) |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | briand: we're all ugly geeks here... |
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| [23:56:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you got YOUR girl too. :) |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | I did |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | we need to find one for kormoc now. |
| [23:57:00] | briand: | xris: heheh. ;) mmm-kay. |
| [23:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ^^ |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i found mine last ngiht |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | poor kormoc... his luck will turn |
| [23:57:00] | juski_: | on the street corner? |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | Yellow-Snow: that was fast |
| [23:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol confidence |
| [23:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is the key young grashopper |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | took me 2 dates to get mine |
| [23:57:00] | rjune: | that's just mean juski |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | and then a big rock. |
| [23:58:00] | rjune: | Mine asked me. |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | big rock... done |
| [23:58:00] | briand: | I'd like to find one that a) understands my lust for computers, gadgets, etc... and possibly shares it... but doesn't b) play with -my- computer |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | I wish you luck |
| [23:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | impoossible |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [23:58:00] | bmbler: | Does anyone with experience with ivtv under Ubuntu know where the file v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw belongs? |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | briand: I just give mine the faster one and she leaves mine alone |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | I do certainly hope so. |
| [23:58:00] | scottder: | briand: you just build her her own... :) |
| [23:58:00] | briand: | xris: hmm. interesting strategy. |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | it's possible, just not probable, briand :) |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | my luck with gals has been rather... spotty at best... |
| [23:58:00] | briand: | i hear ya, Beirdo |
| [23:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wow xpis i didn't think that was possible |
| [23:58:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i could never |
| [23:58:00] | juski_: | dammit what've you got to do to get tv outputs centred these days? |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | briand: she has an ibook, and a nice windows box... I get her handmedown box. |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | mine is also a Solaris admin :) |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | though since her last upgrade cost me $50 (after selling off my old hardware), I got myself an identical box |
| [23:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | you know you are in love when you give your wife the faster computer |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | Yellow-Snow: she plays games, I write code... I don't need much speed |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | that can also be indicative of self-preservation |
| [23:59:00] | juski_: | okay peeps.. xvcolorkey thingy in minimyth – does anybody here know how to set it to black? |
| [23:59:00] | briand: | xris: well, for what that's worth — my WindowsXP box (800MHz w/ .5G RAM) is slower than my FC3 box (600MHz w/ .5G RAM) |
| [23:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | no excuses |
| [23:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ! |
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