| Wednesday, February 15th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | kgbudz: | hmm.. the yum install of .19 testing failed |
| [00:00:00] | kgbudz: | some gcc/libtool dep failed |
| [00:00:00] | nero_: | Say, if I update my channel listing with zap2it, (ex- I removed about 300 stations I dont care about) is there anything specifically I need to do to get them out of my channel listings? Or will the next mythdatabaseupdate take care of everything? |
| [00:00:00] | kgbudz: | bummer |
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| [00:00:00] | Jasper: | juski back allready? |
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | Jasper: caddies went a-beeping again |
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | 2 fans failed today |
| [00:00:00] | Jasper: | ai |
| [00:01:00] | kristok: | nero_: I think you have to run mythtvsetup again and remove them from there |
| [00:01:00] | Jasper: | not good ...too much dust ? :P |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | too much continuous operation |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | sunon crap |
| [00:01:00] | Jasper: | juski do you know if gentoo servers ban you for a few hours if you update too much? |
| [00:01:00] | Jasper: | I am suddenly unable to emerge :( |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | Jasper: they frown on it, that's what they say |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | but that's just syncing |
| [00:02:00] | Jasper: | hmm maybe the srver is really down then..but I can't believe that |
| [00:02:00] | Jasper: | I use ftp.snt.utwente.nl |
| [00:02:00] | Jasper: | it must be like one of the most stable servers there is.. |
| [00:02:00] | Juski: | well, if you keep emerging world every 2 seconds... maybe they'll take exception to that |
| [00:02:00] | Jasper: | :p |
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| [00:03:00] | Jasper: | juski |
| [00:03:00] | Jasper: | can you ping that server?> |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | it's not there |
| [00:03:00] | Jasper: | very weird |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | shouldn't you have more than one source for portage anyway? |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | best practise & all that jazz |
| [00:04:00] | Jasper: | would be better yes.. |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | mine just uses <wherever> |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | I get 150k – 250k download speed & that's enough |
| [00:05:00] | Jasper: | well juski it like 4 different servers |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | download time is nothing compared to compiling time |
| [00:05:00] | Jasper: | but those are all utwente.nl |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | I can't even remember how to check which I use |
| [00:05:00] | k-man_: | where can i find a list of compatible dvb-t cards with v4l? |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | :-/ |
| [00:06:00] | Juski: | k-man www.linuxtv.org |
| [00:06:00] | Pitchin_uk: | how often should i run mythfilldatabase – and what is it?? |
| [00:06:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: please RTFM |
| [00:08:00] | Jasper: | Juski what's the use in adding extra server to make.conf when the connecting to a server never expires when emerging ? |
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| [00:08:00] | Juski: | Jasper: timeouts are configurable, I thought |
| [00:09:00] | mofu: | Pitchin_uk: U.S. users should let the backend run mythfilldatabase automatically (no cron job) and let it auto-negotiate daily times with the zap2it servers, outside the U.S you should follow guideline based on what listings grabber you are using |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | okay Pitchin_uk: seen as I'm in a good mood tonight.. mythfilldatabase is the program wot fills the programme guide |
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| [00:10:00] | Juski: | uk users can run it every night or every few days. if you use the radiotimes grabber (tv_grab_uk_rt) you get up to 14 days worth of programme info |
| [00:10:00] | Jasper: | you get 14 days juski? |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper: | nice shit! |
| [00:11:00] | Jasper: | I only get like 5 |
| [00:11:00] | mofu: | Pitchin_uk: assuming you are from the UK you probably need some type of xmltv grabber solution |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | aye.. sure do |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | tv_grab_uk_rt |
| [00:11:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i see – cos i finally have mythweb working and on backend status it say the the last time it ran it faild because of xmltv error |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | well, Pitchin_uk you'd better run mythfilldatabase from a command line & paste the error into a pastebin |
| [00:12:00] | mofu: | I think if you let zap2it auto-negotiate your time you should get your full 13/14 day lists, otherwise they should restirct download based on current server load . . . |
| [00:12:00] | Juski: | or if it only ran last sunday, it'll have failed cos the radiotimes xmltv feed was down all day |
| [00:13:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – as su or just me?? |
| [00:13:00] | Juski: | erm... usually as the mythtv user |
| [00:13:00] | Pitchin_uk: | nah it was a while ago |
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| [00:14:00] | Juski: | depends what user you ran mythtv-setup as |
| [00:14:00] | Jasper: | is zap2it getting overloaded? |
| [00:14:00] | mofu: | hey dhofstra – what up?? |
| [00:14:00] | Juski: | Jasper: they cut back to three days worth recently, then went back to 13 days |
| [00:14:00] | dhofstra: | hey not much |
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| [00:14:00] | dhofstra: | its been a long time since I've been in here |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | well zap2it is a great service.. |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | I mean juski how long does it take you to grab the info? |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | a good few minutes |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | info for 5 days and 21 channels takes me 2,5 hours |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | not that long |
| [00:15:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – how long should it take?? |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | well it does here :p |
| [00:15:00] | dhofstra: | mofu: just thinking about totally redoing all of my machines and then slapping 0.19 on them.. LOL in my minds eye it will only take a few days, but in reality it will take weeks |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | Jasper: the kind peeps at radiotimes.com made an xmltv feed available, so there's no page scraping involved |
| [00:15:00] | Jasper: | it's prolly the grabber being more complex or something juski |
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| [00:16:00] | mofu: | Jasper: yeah, they really need people to spread the load out to take the peak load down. 0.19 has a new feature to auto-negotiate your download time w/ zap2it server . . . . use it!! drop your cron job and turn on 'run mythfilldatabase automatically' option |
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| [00:16:00] | dhofstra: | i dont believe thier problem is actually with MYTH |
| [00:16:00] | dasOp: | some grabbers take a few seconds and some take hours. are some servers just slow? |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | dhofstra: but there are plenty of mythtv users who are part of the problem |
| [00:16:00] | Achew22: | Jasper: it says its missing Nvidea.ko |
| [00:16:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: how long it takes depends on 3 things...1: how many channels you have 2, internet connection speed and 3. how many shows there happen to be |
| [00:17:00] | dhofstra: | evidence the tread in -users where the guy didnt even know we were only grabbing 2 days... they have problems with other companies that use the service and grab every day...(prolly those windows bastards) |
| [00:17:00] | mofu: | dhofstra: yeah, know what you mean, I have 0.19 on a separate HD box to make sure its all cool before upgrading my production boxes |
| [00:17:00] | Jasper: | Nvidea.ko? |
| [00:17:00] | Jasper: | Achew22 when does it say that? |
| [00:17:00] | mofu: | production boX. |
| [00:17:00] | dasOp: | I have 40 chans and a 10day grab takes a few seconds |
| [00:18:00] | Achew22: | after it compiles |
| [00:18:00] | dasOp: | but I'm guessing zap2it is a tgad more loaded than swedb |
| [00:18:00] | Jasper: | with zap2it dasOp ? |
| [00:18:00] | Juski: | I have about 160 channels & it takes about 15 mins to do 14 days |
| [00:18:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [00:18:00] | dasOp: | no, swesb |
| [00:18:00] | Jasper: | why do mine 20 channels for 5 takes take 2,5 hours then.. |
| [00:18:00] | dasOp: | db |
| [00:18:00] | Juski: | Jasper: what grabber? |
| [00:18:00] | mofu: | dhofstra: actually, anyone installing myth from a binary package is probably getting a cron job installed at the same time, all those jobs run the same hour . . . . |
| [00:19:00] | Juski: | it might be accessing html pages then having to scrape each page & convert it into xmltv format |
| [00:19:00] | Jasper: | prolly Juski |
| [00:19:00] | dasOp: | might be. swedb serves xml |
| [00:19:00] | Jasper: | tv_grab_nl |
| [00:19:00] | dhofstra: | mofu: ahh, i see.. didnt know that... well anyway i think that'll stop right quick |
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| [00:20:00] | Jasper: | juski the uk grabber gets xml? |
| [00:20:00] | Jasper: | doesn't need to scrape? |
| [00:20:00] | mofu: | dhofstra: setting up my new server w/ 2x300GB SATA RAID0, trying to figure out what cards to put in there |
| [00:21:00] | Juski: | Jasper: that's what I said |
| [00:21:00] | mofu: | btw, SLK3700BQE case is very nice and very quiet . . . . |
| [00:21:00] | dhofstra: | nice mofu... why raid 0 instead of LVM? |
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| [00:21:00] | Jasper: | Achew22 does it compile allright? |
| [00:21:00] | mofu: | best performance |
| [00:21:00] | Jasper: | no errors Achew22 ? |
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| [00:22:00] | Achew22: | i think so |
| [00:22:00] | Juski: | raid is ok, but it doesn't stop your FS becoming corrupted & ballsing everything up |
| [00:22:00] | dasOp: | you can run lvm on top of a raid if you want |
| [00:22:00] | Achew22: | I have someone else who might be able to help — I'm going to exhaust him then talk to you... |
| [00:22:00] | dasOp: | lvm doesnt help that much with performance |
| [00:22:00] | mofu: | not really worried about expandability, I'll re-do the damn thing before I add drive space |
| [00:22:00] | dasOp: | even though you can interleave the PE allocation |
| [00:23:00] | mofu: | dasOp: hence, the RAID0 on the new server . . . |
| [00:23:00] | mofu: | lol |
| [00:23:00] | Juski: | raid also doesn't stop your HDD caddies' fans failing either |
| [00:23:00] | dhofstra: | mofu: I will be upgrading my server, so I was backing all my LVM stuff to other pc's when I found that my samba only allows 2gb transfers...LOL |
| [00:23:00] | xpis: | Achew22: did you ever figure out how to install nvidia drivers? |
| [00:23:00] | mofu: | Juski: sound's like experience talking . . . |
| [00:23:00] | Achew22: | still playing |
| [00:24:00] | mofu: | yeah, I have 16+GB movies on my HD box . . . . |
| [00:24:00] | Juski: | mofu: caught 2 fans failing tonight before they got so bad the caddies powered the disks down (phew) |
| [00:24:00] | dhofstra: | I am using 523Gig of my LVM ... this backup is taking FOREVER |
| [00:25:00] | Achew22: | xpis: it says it cant find cc? can I apt-get install cc? |
| [00:25:00] | mofu: | i think chances are almost as good that you can lose EVERYTHING on an LVM volume as a RAID0 array . . . anyway, its just TV . . . . |
| [00:25:00] | dtm: | dhofstra: are you using 100Mbps ethernet or what |
| [00:25:00] | dhofstra: | yeah 100mbps |
| [00:25:00] | mofu: | dhofstra: you couldn't thin that down at all?? |
| [00:26:00] | dhofstra: | that is thinned down |
| [00:26:00] | mofu: | lol |
| [00:26:00] | dasOp: | raid0 is as failsafe as lvm (ie, not at all) |
| [00:26:00] | mofu: | yep |
| [00:26:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – ok the output at the moment is HASH(0x8d6c120) |
| [00:26:00] | Pitchin_uk: | guessing thats not right |
| [00:26:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: drop the whole lot into a pastebin |
| [00:26:00] | dasOp: | but with lvm, if you want to replace 1 drive, you can insert the new one, migrate the pe's and pull the old one |
| [00:26:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok |
| [00:26:00] | Juski: | the hash just means it failed, more or less |
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| [00:27:00] | dasOp: | hash means you're printing a reference |
| [00:27:00] | dasOp: | to a HASH :P |
| [00:27:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – http://pastebin.com/555245 |
| [00:27:00] | ** dasOp assumes this is perl ** | |
| [00:27:00] | mofu: | anyone in here tonight using QAM256 over Cable?? |
| [00:28:00] | dasOp: | oh, it was a grabber |
| [00:28:00] | ** dasOp stfu's ** | |
| [00:28:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: looks like none of your xmltv IDs match up |
| [00:28:00] | Jasper: | this is so annoying 2,5 hours of grabbing...and what does it grab...bob the builder, pokemon, gadget...omg |
| [00:29:00] | Pitchin_uk: | no idea |
| [00:29:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: shortly I'm gonna ask you to do a mysql thing... |
| [00:29:00] | Pitchin_uk: | +sure thing |
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| [00:30:00] | Jasper: | NOOOOOOOOOOO |
| [00:30:00] | Jasper: | IT FAILED!!!!!!! THE GRABBER FAILED! |
| [00:30:00] | Jasper: | :( |
| [00:30:00] | Criggie: | Jasper: don't knock Bob... he's got a Big Hammer |
| [00:30:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: in a terminal session, log into your mysql server ... mysql |
| [00:31:00] | Jasper: | omg... is the grabber info cached Juski ? |
| [00:31:00] | Jasper: | tell me it's cached plz |
| [00:31:00] | Kelerion: | it ain't cached |
| [00:31:00] | Pitchin_uk: | yep |
| [00:31:00] | Juski: | might be something like mysql -u mythtv -p |
| [00:31:00] | Juski: | anyway... then do |
| [00:31:00] | Juski: | use mythconverg |
| [00:32:00] | Juski: | and then |
| [00:32:00] | Juski: | SELECT name, xmltvid FROM channel WHERE sourceid = 1; |
| [00:32:00] | Juski: | pop the result of that into a pastebin please |
| [00:32:00] | Achew22: | xpis: I think I have figured it out |
| [00:32:00] | Achew22: | but I don't know how to fix it |
| [00:32:00] | Jasper: | weee it cached |
| [00:33:00] | Blammo[work]: | As far as Raid — Take it from me... drives FAIL.. to run data you care about without some form of backup, is ASKING for trouble... |
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| [00:34:00] | mofu: | Blammo[work]: the only thing that goes on the RAID array is TV, . . . . |
| [00:34:00] | Pitchin_uk: | http://pastebin.com/555251 |
| [00:34:00] | Juski: | anyway, Pitchin_uk: here are my xmltv ids for the Freeview channels: http://pastebin.com/555250 |
| [00:34:00] | xpis: | Achew22: it can't find cc? |
| [00:34:00] | Achew22: | yeah thats what I think |
| [00:34:00] | xpis: | Achew22: apt-get install gcc |
| [00:35:00] | xpis: | (why you don't have gcc installed I don't know) |
| [00:35:00] | Achew22: | it wants 3.4 and when I do that it installs 4.0 |
| [00:35:00] | xpis: | Yep, that's a problem. |
| [00:35:00] | Achew22: | I have 3.4 installed but its not configured right |
| [00:35:00] | xpis: | Look for an updated version. |
| [00:35:00] | xpis: | (of the driver) |
| [00:35:00] | Achew22: | okay... |
| [00:36:00] | Achew22: | Jasper you lead me wrong |
| [00:36:00] | xpis: | GCC 4 has been out awhile. |
| [00:36:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. btw.. did you know you can run a select statement from the command line? 'mysql -u root -p mythconverg -e "SELECT name, xmltvid FROM channel WHERE sourceid = 1;" |
| [00:36:00] | Juski: | right.. Pitchin_uk: what's happenned is – your xmltv ids seem to be wrong in the .xmltv file (freeview.xmltv). the channel table in the DB doesn't have any xmltv ids in it anyway |
| [00:36:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: I do now ;-) |
| [00:37:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: your Freeview.xmltv file should look a little something like this: http://pastebin.com/555255 |
| [00:37:00] | Juski: | match em up ;-) |
| [00:37:00] | Pitchin_uk: | when i run it as root i get a different answer |
| [00:37:00] | Juski: | and then put the correct xmltv ids into the channel editor |
| [00:37:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [00:37:00] | Kelerion: | multiple config files |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [00:38:00] | xpis: | Achew22: 32 or 64 bit? |
| [00:38:00] | Achew22: | 32 and I just upgraded it is the same error |
| [00:38:00] | Jasper: | qww |
| [00:38:00] | Jasper: | juski it was indeed my database...watching livetv works again |
| [00:38:00] | xpis: | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8178.html |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | Jasper: cool :-) |
| [00:39:00] | xpis: | (Achew22: did you download that?) |
| [00:39:00] | Achew22: | the update? |
| [00:39:00] | Pitchin_uk: | http://pastebin.com/555260 |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | don't wanna sound patronising, Jasper, but you need a pat on the back... good work |
| [00:39:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [00:39:00] | Jasper: | it sounds very patronising.. |
| [00:39:00] | Jasper: | somehow |
| [00:39:00] | xpis: | Achew22: what driver are you trying to run? |
| [00:40:00] | Achew22: | nvidea |
| [00:40:00] | scottder: | Is ATrpms carrying 0.19 yet? |
| [00:40:00] | Achew22: | NVIDIA-Linux-x86–1.0-8178-pkg1.run |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: what user is mythfilldatabase running as? if mythfilldatabase is set to run automatically, it'll be the same user mythbackend runs as |
| [00:40:00] | Kelerion: | line 18 of that pastebin gives the clue |
| [00:40:00] | Pitchin_uk: | my user account |
| [00:41:00] | scottder: | they have a new mpjpeg lib out...want smart really wants to uninstall mythtv now :) |
| [00:41:00] | xpis: | Achew22: and that won't work with gcc4? |
| [00:41:00] | Achew22: | nope |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | yeah, but Pitchin_uk: your xmltv file is borked.. well maybe not borked but prolly won't work with the file in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids |
| [00:42:00] | Pitchin_uk: | my freeview.xmltv looks like yours |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | except the xmltvids dont look like ones you'll find in the channel_ids file |
| [00:42:00] | Kelerion: | it ain't using *your* xmltv config file.. it's using roots |
| [00:43:00] | Pitchin_uk: | how do i solve that |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | first try copying /root/.mythtv/Freeview.xmltv to ~/.mythtv/. |
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| [00:43:00] | Achew22: | xpis: nope doesnt work |
| [00:43:00] | roz: | does anyone have any HD experience? |
| [00:43:00] | Achew22: | I watched a HD tv once... does that count? |
| [00:44:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [00:44:00] | Pitchin_uk: | root doesn't use mythtv and doesn't have freeview.xmltv |
| [00:44:00] | ** Juski chuckles ** | |
| [00:44:00] | roz: | Achew22: I've done that too! |
| [00:44:00] | Jasper: | oh christ how can I set my clock to use gmt +1 for date? |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk... I think you ran mythtv-setup as root didn't you |
| [00:44:00] | Achew22: | actualy... I have never seen a HDTV image because we don't have any towers near us. but I have a HDTV ready tv |
| [00:44:00] | Pitchin_uk: | no |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | so how come there's a /root/.mythtv/Freeview.xmltv and there's no ~/.mythtv/freeview.xmltv ? |
| [00:45:00] | Kelerion: | is mythfilldatabase setuid root by any chance? |
| [00:45:00] | k-man_: | are there any usb dvb-t tuners that work with linux? |
| [00:45:00] | roz: | but that doesn't help my blue screen using XV as output with an HDTV TS Stream |
| [00:45:00] | diamon: | My MythTV system is HD-ready, I just need the TV... |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | k-man_, I don't think there are any usb dvb tuners period. |
| [00:45:00] | Pitchin_uk: | definitely ran it as me |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | kormoc: oh but there are;-) |
| [00:45:00] | Achew22: | xpis: you got any ideas? |
| [00:45:00] | k-man_: | kormoc, they don't exist? |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | Juski, ooh? |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | yeh. see the DVB wiki @ www.linuxtv.org |
| [00:46:00] | xpis: | Achew22: trying to get gcc3.4 installed wouldn't be a good idea. It would probably be best to compile it on another machine. |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | some even work in linux :-) |
| [00:46:00] | k-man_: | kormoc, i'm sure they exist |
| [00:46:00] | k-man_: | kormoc, just not sure they work with linux |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | k-man_, look at the same link Juski just gave me |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | tempted to get one to see if I can record DVB-T on an xbox for a laugh |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | Juski, that's cool |
| [00:47:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.as . . . uctID=217946 |
| [00:47:00] | ** Juski can't believe nobody's done it yet... ** | |
| [00:47:00] | roz: | anyone have any ideas that would help my blue screen using XV as output with an HDTV TS Stream |
| [00:47:00] | k-man_: | thanks |
| [00:47:00] | Juski: | they'll work with USB 1.1 right? xbox has that... there are USB drivers for tuners in Linux... bada-bong |
| [00:48:00] | mofu: | roz, can you play an SD stream . . ? |
| [00:48:00] | Achew22: | alrigh — does anyone know if the kubuntu live cd can install? |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | Achew22: don't fink so |
| [00:48:00] | diamon: | usb 1.1? That's a 1Mbit data rate; can't capture much through that I'd think. |
| [00:48:00] | roz: | Hey mofu was looking for you --- Yes I can No problem. I'll double check. |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | diamon: worth a try |
| [00:48:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [00:49:00] | Chutt: | fox has house running from 9:03 to 10:03 tonight |
| [00:49:00] | diamon: | Juski: True! |
| [00:49:00] | mofu: | diamon: usb1.1 = 11 Mbit/s . . . |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | diamon, 1.5 Mbps |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | or 12 Mbps |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | dependsing on the device |
| [00:49:00] | diamon: | Yeah, I meant 1Mb/sec, but just woke up. :P |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | anyway some UK channels are like 512kbits |
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| [00:49:00] | roz: | ls |
| [00:49:00] | mofu: | 1.5 MB/s = 12 Mb/s |
| [00:49:00] | Kelerion: | I hate that.. I've just spent 3 hours on and off trying to compile ffmpeg.. and now it's done I can't remember what I wanted it for! |
| [00:50:00] | roz: | mofu: I just played a 320x240 mpg no problem via xv |
| [00:50:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: erm... wasn't it that cctv thing? |
| [00:50:00] | Achew22: | do they have a net inst version of kubuntu or ubuntu? |
| [00:50:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. sussed that one.. lol |
| [00:50:00] | roz: | mofu: SD works just fine in Myth using XV |
| [00:50:00] | Juski: | erm.. nuvexport? |
| [00:50:00] | Jasper: | hmm wtf |
| [00:50:00] | Kelerion: | yes! .. that was it.. thanks.. lol |
| [00:51:00] | xpis: | Achew22: you can probably compile it in knoppix |
| [00:51:00] | roz: | mofu: X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) ??,?% 4 0 27% |
| [00:51:00] | Jasper: | huh? juski .....everything worked...and after I reboot....it stops working? |
| [00:51:00] | roz: | mofu: thats the error I get when I try to play an HD stream |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | how you doing there, Pitchin_uk? |
| [00:51:00] | Kelerion: | nope nope.. you were right first time.. was still on the cctv thing.. lol |
| [00:51:00] | Achew22: | xpis: i'm angry and I just want to install again... |
| [00:52:00] | mofu: | roz: what video card?? |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | Jasper: dear oh dear.. wtf did you reboot for? :-P |
| [00:52:00] | Jasper: | had to try if ntpd started at boot |
| [00:52:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i was just re running through the mythtv setup |
| [00:52:00] | Jasper: | how can it stop working at reboot? |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | quite easy |
| [00:52:00] | roz: | mofu: nVidia Corporation NV11GL [Quadro2 MXR/EX] 32 MB |
| [00:53:00] | roz: | mofu: to be honest, a Geforce2 MX 32 MB modded to be a Quadro2. |
| [00:53:00] | mofu: | roz, not sure that's enough card . . . |
| [00:53:00] | Pitchin_uk: | but when i do a channel scan i get failed to open the card |
| [00:53:00] | Jasper: | lol juski I found the problem |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | I have a vague recollection of having to edit the mythbackend startup script to make sure mysql was running last time I installed |
| [00:53:00] | diamon: | So, fishing one last time... I'm looking to take the excuse of Myth 0.19 to go and upgrade my FC3 system to FC4, but that'll give me a different major version (4.x) if MySQL. Someone mentioned once that there was some kind of problem doing that. Anyone heard that? |
| [00:54:00] | mofu: | roz, PCI or AGP? |
| [00:54:00] | roz: | mofu: Higher-end Geforce (more memory?) required for higher-res XV? AGP |
| [00:54:00] | dasOp: | 4.x works grand, 5.0 used to have issues |
| [00:54:00] | Jasper: | juski if I start mythbackend at boot....it runs the backend...but I cna't watch livetv...then when I stop mythbackend...and restart it...with the same user mythfronted can watch live tv again |
| [00:54:00] | Jasper: | weird? |
| [00:54:00] | diamon: | roz: Spiff! I modded my 9800Pro to be a 9800XT, turned out I had the right core and memory. |
| [00:54:00] | Jasper: | this is all a permission issue I guess |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | Jasper: I suspect that mythbackend is missing a vital service when it first starts |
| [00:55:00] | Jasper: | I'm gonna reboot again |
| [00:55:00] | Jasper: | and see what it says in the log |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | like it won't start up if mysql isn't running (and stuff) |
| [00:55:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – got it mythbackend was running |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [00:55:00] | roz: | mofu what Kind of card are you running |
| [00:56:00] | mofu: | FX5200 . . . |
| [00:56:00] | Pitchin_uk: | just about to do a channel scan |
| [00:56:00] | Pitchin_uk: | need to remember all my settings for my local transmitter |
| [00:56:00] | ** scottder is still trying to figure out why s-video is so crappy on his FX5200 ** | |
| [00:56:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: you don't need to do that |
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| [00:57:00] | Jasper: | Juski I got no errors in mythbackend log |
| [00:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.metku.net/index.html?sect=view& . . . pc/index_eng |
| [00:57:00] | mofu: | roz, not certain, but you probably want at least MX4 or better . . . . |
| [00:57:00] | Chutt: | roz, a gf2 won't do hd. |
| [00:58:00] | Juski: | Jasper: I bet if you set mythbackend not to start in the default runlevel, but start it sometime after booting all will be well |
| [00:58:00] | roz: | I was looking at an FX5200, they're about ohhhhh $35 |
| [00:58:00] | scottder: | Of course maybe the crappy svideo output will nudge my wife into Oking an LCD tv |
| [00:59:00] | Jasper: | hmm Juski it starts as mythtv-users |
| [00:59:00] | Jasper: | user |
| [00:59:00] | Jasper: | and when I shut it down and start it again |
| [00:59:00] | Jasper: | it's as root |
| [00:59:00] | Jasper: | so it has more permissions...can't that be the problem? |
| [00:59:00] | mofu: | roz, you have AGP on that board I hope?? |
| [00:59:00] | Yellow-Snow: | anyone see that case? |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | 1st 3 lines of my script go: depend() { |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | need net |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | use mysql |
| [01:00:00] | roz: | mofu: yes Its an AGP GF2... I have an Athlon 1600.... |
| [01:00:00] | Juski: | since I added the last bit – no more problems starting mythbackend |
| [01:00:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – i think i remember from last time it didn't work unless i found the settings |
| [01:00:00] | roz: | mofu: Processor-wise I should be ok. |
| [01:00:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: got a channels.conf from a dvb scan handy? that's where you get the settings |
| [01:00:00] | mofu: | roz, you might be OK w/ XvMC, but not with Xv |
| [01:00:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – its now doing a channel scan |
| [01:00:00] | Pitchin_uk: | yeah i got one from linux tv apps |
| [01:01:00] | roz: | mofu: what is xvmc? |
| [01:01:00] | Jasper: | I think the mythtv user should have more permissions |
| [01:01:00] | xpis: | roz: I think me means xvnc |
| [01:01:00] | mofu: | roz, pretty much full hardware mpeg2 decoding on nvidia cards . . |
| [01:01:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – should i create a mythtv user for my machine – as it is my main machine as well i have just been using my account |
| [01:01:00] | mofu: | no, its xvMc |
| [01:02:00] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: you're fine |
| [01:02:00] | scottder: | I watch standard def stuff on my 1ghz PIII fine using Xv |
| [01:02:00] | roz: | mofu: am I OK w/ HD on a Radeon 9600? |
| [01:02:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – channel scan all done |
| [01:02:00] | xris: | mofu: no real change using xvmc for me.. was actually worse for some things. |
| [01:02:00] | mofu: | scottder: the discussion is HD, 1920x1080i, your P3 do that?? |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | roz, ati cards do not support Xvmc |
| [01:03:00] | xris: | roz: what speed proc? |
| [01:03:00] | scottder: | Ah no then :) |
| [01:03:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – whats next |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | right.. you scanned... |
| [01:03:00] | Pitchin_uk: | yep |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | now you need to assign the card a video source |
| [01:03:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok |
| [01:03:00] | roz: | but ATI supports regular XV |
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| [01:04:00] | roz: | will an ATI 9600 do HD though? |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | go in there, select tv_grab_uk_rt, then select the 'next' button |
| [01:04:00] | mofu: | I know someone running XP2400+/Nvidia/XvMC will run HD, but not with Xv |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | you'll then see a progress bar stuck at 50%... alt-tab or whatever to the terminal you ran mythtv-setup from |
| [01:04:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – i already have the card and the video source and the input all setup with defaults |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | ok then... go out of mythtv-setup |
| [01:04:00] | roz: | I have an Athlon XP 1600 w/ a GeForce2 and an a Duron 1300 w/ an ATI Radeon 9600 |
| [01:05:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok |
| [01:05:00] | Juski: | then in a terminal do mythfilldatabase --configure |
| [01:05:00] | xris: | roz: neither of those will play HD |
| [01:05:00] | roz: | neither card? or will I also be CPU limited? |
| [01:05:00] | xris: | bare minimum for HD is 2Ghz |
| [01:05:00] | mofu: | roz: I doubt either system will handle a full 1080 stream . . . even w/ a video card upgrade |
| [01:05:00] | Juski: | oh shat.. that won't work |
| [01:05:00] | Achew22: | is there a way to have xorg rescan your cards? |
| [01:05:00] | xris: | I have enough trouble on my 3G p4 with a 5800 |
| [01:05:00] | Pitchin_uk: | yep just found that |
| [01:06:00] | xris: | Achew22: X -configure |
| [01:06:00] | Achew22: | bash command x not found |
| [01:06:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: tv_grab_uk_rt --configure |
| [01:06:00] | mofu: | Achew22: what distro? |
| [01:06:00] | Achew22: | ubuntu |
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| [01:06:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: then answer a bunch of questions about which channels you want |
| [01:06:00] | mofu: | in debian/ubunto dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or something close) |
| [01:07:00] | roz: | well... Now its time to start considering a system upgrade! |
| [01:07:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: type in a basic name like bbc1 – you'll then be shown a list of alternatives... pick the one for your region |
| [01:07:00] | Achew22: | anyone definitive on the command? |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: it does kinda fuzzy searches so it'll sometimes need a better hint (or no hint) |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | Achew22: X, not x |
| [01:08:00] | Achew22: | ohh thats different |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: go thru all that doing all your channels then enter . to quit out |
| [01:08:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – i just went through a bunch of questions saying which channels i wanted |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | and you need to be in console mode when you run it |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: you'll then have a file called .xmltv |
| [01:09:00] | Pitchin_uk: | just a text list though |
| [01:09:00] | mofu: | Achew22: that should be right |
| [01:09:00] | Achew22: | yeah |
| [01:09:00] | Achew22: | but it errored... |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: copy that file to freeview.xmltv |
| [01:09:00] | mofu: | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| [01:09:00] | Achew22: | "missing output drivers |
| [01:09:00] | mofu: | fubar |
| [01:10:00] | Achew22: | its detecting the PVR-250 card i think |
| [01:10:00] | mofu: | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core ??? |
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| [01:10:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – where does it copy the file |
| [01:10:00] | Achew22: | dpkg-reconfgure isn't found |
| [01:11:00] | Achew22: | bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| [01:11:00] | mofu: | needs an 'i' |
| [01:11:00] | Pitchin_uk: | in .mythtv i have a freeview.xmltv and a vs1/xmltv |
| [01:11:00] | mofu: | Achew22: are you root?? |
| [01:11:00] | Pitchin_uk: | .xmltv even |
| [01:11:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: oopsie... there'sa directory called .xmltv |
| [01:11:00] | mofu: | sudo . . . . |
| [01:11:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: in there will be a file called tv_grab_uk_rt.conf |
| [01:11:00] | Achew22: | WHA!?!?! |
| [01:11:00] | Achew22: | why would that make it different |
| [01:11:00] | Achew22: | i'm very confused |
| [01:12:00] | mofu: | obviously, |
| [01:12:00] | Achew22: | yeah... |
| [01:12:00] | Pitchin_uk: | so the conf is bacically just a channel picker |
| [01:12:00] | mofu: | you can't configure packages if your not root |
| [01:12:00] | Achew22: | shh... i'm not looking at this logicly |
| [01:12:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: copy _that_ file to freeview.xmltv in /root/.mythtv |
| [01:12:00] | Kelerion: | if I stream a file to an windows share.. and look at that file listing in windows.. the file keeps getting bigger.. if I do the same to an nfs or samba share.. it updates in chunks after some period of time.. why would it do that? |
| [01:13:00] | Juski: | this is what happens, btw when you run the grabber configurator from mythtv-setup |
| [01:13:00] | Achew22: | mofu it says "no screens found" |
| [01:13:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok im there |
| [01:13:00] | Pitchin_uk: | does it matter that i accepted all the channels |
| [01:13:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: no idea.. refresh it more often & you'll see a more gradual change? |
| [01:13:00] | mofu: | Achew22: are you in an X session now?? |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: not much |
| [01:14:00] | Pitchin_uk: | its in root/.mythtv |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: anyway now you need to put each xmltvid into the channel editor |
| [01:14:00] | Achew22: | mofu: I typed sudo X |
| [01:14:00] | Pitchin_uk: | how do i do that |
| [01:14:00] | mofu: | Achew22: did I once tell you to type 'X" |
| [01:14:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. I can keep freshing or "ls"'ing.. and the file stays the same time for a while.. then suddenly jumps in size as if it's got a new chunk of data |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: in the channel editor, or with your favourite mysql mangler |
| [01:15:00] | Achew22: | mofu its caps |
| [01:15:00] | roz: | mofu: do you reccommend Athlon 64? or stay away? |
| [01:15:00] | Pitchin_uk: | the channel editor in myth setup |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: must be something sync related |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: yup |
| [01:15:00] | mofu: | Achew22: sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | or phpmyadmin, or webmin... |
| [01:15:00] | Kelerion: | I was thinking the same.. will look at the nfs options |
| [01:15:00] | Klatuu: | heh |
| [01:15:00] | Pitchin_uk: | run as me or root |
| [01:15:00] | rtsai1111: | Kelerion: filesystem caching |
| [01:15:00] | Klatuu: | this is too recursive |
| [01:16:00] | Achew22: | dkpg-reconfigure: command not found |
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| [01:16:00] | Achew22: | i'm in root |
| [01:16:00] | rtsai1111: | Kelerion: the same thing will happen if you try writing something locally and watch "iostat" or something |
| [01:16:00] | Klatuu: | I am using vnc to connect to my home system and then vnc inside the vnc session to connect to my myth box |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: same user you initially ran mythtv-setup as |
| [01:16:00] | mofu: | roz: Athlon64 is probably more future proof, but its semi-beta in terms of linux at this point |
| [01:16:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok me |
| [01:16:00] | Achew22: | mofu: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found |
| [01:16:00] | Achew22: | mofu: i'm in root |
| [01:17:00] | Kelerion: | rtsai1111: is there some way to reduce the caching in nfs? |
| [01:17:00] | Pitchin_uk: | right im in the channel editor |
| [01:17:00] | mofu: | Achew22: not sure why you don't have dpkg on your Ubuntu box, apt-get install dpkg |
| [01:17:00] | roz: | mofu: are you a gentoo user? |
| [01:17:00] | Achew22: | mofu: its already installed |
| [01:17:00] | mofu: | roz: no, Debian/Ubuntu |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: for each channel in turn, select each one & paste the correct xmltv ID into the xmltvid field |
| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, of course you can, man nfs |
| [01:18:00] | mofu: | Achew22: sorry, can't help |
| [01:18:00] | Achew22: | sad panda |
| [01:18:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok – this could take a while |
| [01:18:00] | roz: | mofu: I guess I live in the beta world with gentoo |
| [01:18:00] | Kelerion: | ahhh.. positive news.. thats what I like to hear.. *goes to read* |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | any UK users know if there's a doc for this? I don't ever remember seeing one, I just worked it out |
| [01:18:00] | rtsai1111: | Kelerion: I think it's a kernel thing, not a NFS thing; e.g., if you "cp bigfile newname", you'll see the same thing happen, and NFS isn't even in the picture |
| [01:18:00] | mofu: | back in a bit . . . |
| [01:18:00] | rtsai1111: | all the writes get batched up and written out all at once for efficiency |
| [01:19:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ooh, if you do mean kernel caching, the answer is I don't think you can, but why would you want to? |
| [01:19:00] | rtsai1111: | "NFS caching" generally refers to client-side caching. |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | I've always assumed I ended up having to work it out because I'd done it wrong in the 1st place |
| [01:20:00] | Achew22: | mofu: can you help me install my ATI drivers? |
| [01:20:00] | ** Juski remembers when tv_grab_uk_rt --configure would crash if you have it a channel name that didn't exist ** | |
| [01:20:00] | Juski: | Achew22: didn't I see someone tell you to install nvidia drivers earlier? |
| [01:21:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc: live streaming a file to an nfs share.. I want the data on that stored file to be as nearly realtime as possible |
| [01:21:00] | Achew22: | yeah, it was halucinating NVidea stuff |
| [01:21:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ahh... hrm. |
| [01:21:00] | Achew22: | I actualy have ATI and I looked in the box |
| [01:21:00] | Juski: | ahh.. that would bork stuff |
| [01:21:00] | Kelerion: | it ain't that important.. I was just curious :) |
| [01:21:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [01:21:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, it's better to stream from a nfs share... i.e. have the client initiate the stream. |
| [01:22:00] | ** Juski thought for one horrible moment someone was trying to do one over on Achew22 ** | |
| [01:22:00] | Achew22: | that would be a sweet trick |
| [01:22:00] | ** Achew22 chuckles ** | |
| [01:23:00] | xpis: | Achew22: are you talking about the same box? Do you have two video cards? |
| [01:23:00] | Juski: | get a noob in... mk2fs /dev/hda3 to install mythtv |
| [01:23:00] | Achew22: | it says I have an ATI Radion 7000 (which is builtinto the board) |
| [01:23:00] | Jasper: | Juski could it be a problem of the user mythtv not having enough rights running the backend...able to start the backend but not get too something important ? |
| [01:23:00] | Achew22: | it HAD 2 cards... |
| [01:23:00] | Kelerion: | Juski: yer cruel.. but it'd be funny.. :) |
| [01:23:00] | Achew22: | the radeon which was built in and the nvidea that was pci and I took it out |
| [01:23:00] | mofu: | Achew22: step1, order Nvidia Card, step2, throw ATI card in garbage |
| [01:23:00] | xpis: | Achew22: an ATI radion built into a NForce2 board? |
| [01:23:00] | Jasper: | LOL Achew22 you have a ATI CARD? |
| [01:23:00] | Achew22: | I don'y know any more |
| [01:23:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [01:23:00] | ** Achew22 = confused ** | |
| [01:24:00] | xpis: | Achew22: lspci showed a geforce4... I'm very confused. |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, you have quite the board. |
| [01:24:00] | Achew22: | its built into the board |
| [01:24:00] | Jasper: | Achew22 did you know what board you had when you were in windows? |
| [01:24:00] | xpis: | I think he has a chameleon board. |
| [01:24:00] | Achew22: | whatever it is |
| [01:24:00] | mofu: | Achew22: what motherboard?? |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, a nvidia board would have a nvidia card onboard |
| [01:24:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [01:24:00] | Juski: | Jasper: try adding the line 'use mysql' in /etc/init.d/mythbackend under the 'need net' line |
| [01:24:00] | Achew22: | I got swarmed with messages... |
| [01:24:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – i take it i dont need the word channel before the id |
| [01:24:00] | Achew22: | wow — I feel honored |
| [01:24:00] | Juski: | don't break the braces btw ;-) |
| [01:25:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: nope |
| [01:25:00] | xpis: | Achew22: do lspci again |
| [01:25:00] | xpis: | Achew22: and make sure you do it on the correct computer. |
| [01:25:00] | Juski: | people hadn't heard of ATI video on nforce boards? or vice-versa... perverse, but very real |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | Juski, saywhat? |
| [01:25:00] | xpis: | Juski: lspci showed a geforce4 |
| [01:25:00] | mofu: | Juski: example please . . . |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | will try it tomorrow Juski, allready powered down the system :p was getting too late |
| [01:26:00] | Achew22: | okay -xpis is right |
| [01:26:00] | Achew22: | ati is the pci card nvidia is built in |
| [01:26:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, just remove the ati card |
| [01:26:00] | Achew22: | done |
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| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | Achew22 that sounds weird? |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | ah you got a onboard chip |
| [01:26:00] | Jasper: | P |
| [01:26:00] | Achew22: | its on my coffee table |
| [01:26:00] | Juski: | one of my mates has a system with ATI video & nforce chipset, honest |
| [01:26:00] | mofu: | Jasper: yeah, nforce motherboard = Nvidia On-board video |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | Juski, only a agp/pci ati card, not a onboard ati chipset |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, so install the nvidia driver |
| [01:27:00] | Juski: | he said onboard ATI |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | Juski, he's pulling your leg |
| [01:27:00] | Achew22: | you weren't here for htis delema were you kormoc |
| [01:27:00] | Juski: | coulda been wrong. sounded wrong. prolly is wrong |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, no? |
| [01:28:00] | mofu: | Achew22: you still running 2.6.12–9 Ubuntu kernel?? |
| [01:28:00] | Achew22: | kernel was compiled with 3.4 so I have to build with 3.4 right? well I cant get that to go — I can get 4.0 to work |
| [01:28:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: anyhow – that should get you filling the DB ... |
| [01:28:00] | Jasper: | so achew .....you must have been able to install the Nvidia driver then? since you also have a nvidia chip? |
| [01:28:00] | Achew22: | 2.6.12-9-k7 |
| [01:28:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – also what happens if there is a channel but no id |
| [01:28:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, there is no precompiled nvidia kernel module for your kernel? |
| [01:28:00] | Achew22: | nope |
| [01:28:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: dont worry about that for now |
| [01:28:00] | Achew22: | no precompiled |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: btw which channel? |
| [01:29:00] | mofu: | is it a custom kernel or a packaged kernel?? |
| [01:29:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, welp, you're just gonna have to compile your own kernel with gcc 4.0 then |
| [01:29:00] | Achew22: | if I reboot and change the grub config to load 2.6.12–9 not 2.6.12-9-k7 |
| [01:29:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, but that's not really recommended |
| [01:29:00] | Achew22: | will tha twork? |
| [01:29:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, it might, worth a try |
| [01:29:00] | Achew22: | okay ... brb |
| [01:29:00] | Pitchin_uk: | bbc 3 & 4 |
| [01:30:00] | Juski: | bbc3 is: choice.bbc.co.uk |
| [01:30:00] | Juski: | bbc4 is knowledge.bbc.co.uk |
| [01:30:00] | Jasper: | I find it weird people not knowing what graphic device they got.. |
| [01:30:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [01:30:00] | Pitchin_uk: | citv?? |
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| [01:31:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: if you ever need a clue as to the xmltv id of a channel, look in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids ;-) |
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| [01:31:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: citv isn't even on air yet |
| [01:31:00] | Pitchin_uk: | bbci |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | no guide for that |
| [01:31:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok cool |
| [01:31:00] | Achew22: | okay 2.6.12–9 wasn't an option but 2.6.12-10-k7 |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | set it to invisible btw |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | any channels you don't want, set em to invisible |
| [01:31:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | oh fark.. just remembered you can use mythweb to enter xmltvids for channels now |
| [01:32:00] | Jasper: | hmm juski what is the use mysql actually for? |
| [01:32:00] | Jasper: | it won't start until mysql is loaded? |
| [01:32:00] | Achew22: | okay — uname -r now returns 2.6.12-10-k7 |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | Jasper: I had a very similar problem to yours – it won't harm anything if that isn't the problem but it'll help if it is ;-) |
| [01:33:00] | Jasper: | yeah, was just wondering |
| [01:33:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – is that easier |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: much easier to use mythweb for that |
| [01:33:00] | Achew22: | Otherwise, select "Yes" to abort installation, set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler used to compile your kernel, and restart installation. Abort now? |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | I'm not on 0.19 yet and I just forgot |
| [01:34:00] | Achew22: | how do I "set the CC environment variable" |
| [01:34:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, it should automatically when gcc is installed |
| [01:34:00] | Achew22: | yeah remember its set to 4.0 |
| [01:34:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, or CC=/path/to/gcc ./nvidia-driver-install-file |
| [01:34:00] | Achew22: | i'm going to change it to 3.4 then change it to 4.0 later |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: another tip: if you delete a Freeview channel, it'll keep re-appearing some time later |
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| [01:35:00] | Jasper: | you're gonna change it to an old version Achew22 ? |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | hence the need to set channels to invisible ;-) |
| [01:35:00] | Achew22: | don'y question my thinking i'm crazy |
| [01:35:00] | kormoc: | Achew22, remember, gcc 4.0 is not considered stable |
| [01:35:00] | Achew22: | I want to go to 3.4 |
| [01:35:00] | Achew22: | the stable one |
| [01:35:00] | Jasper: | why did you go to 4.0 in the first place? |
| [01:35:00] | Achew22: | I didn't mean to? |
| [01:36:00] | Jasper: | does ubuntu have like stable/unstable/testing like debian (I never saw it) |
| [01:36:00] | Juski: | Jasper: kind of |
| [01:36:00] | Jasper: | how can Achew22 end up with the unstable release then? |
| [01:36:00] | Juski: | pretty easy if you don't know what you're doing ;-) |
| [01:36:00] | Jasper: | Achew22 did you install unstable or testing? if so why? |
| [01:37:00] | Achew22: | I thought it might be fun to install with installlinux.com |
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| [01:37:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – where do i edit the in mythweb |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: tools |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | channels |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | bada-bing |
| [01:37:00] | Jasper: | Achew22 does your apt sources say you use stable ? |
| [01:37:00] | Jasper: | do even |
| [01:37:00] | Achew22: | ohh shit.... |
| [01:38:00] | Achew22: | I changed that to a different one |
| [01:38:00] | Achew22: | not noing what it did |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | Lol |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | and did you do a apt-get upgrade after that |
| [01:38:00] | Juski: | like I said,,, pretty easy to fuck it up if you're not sure |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | would be fun |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | P |
| [01:38:00] | Achew22: | yeah |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | seriously? |
| [01:38:00] | Achew22: | lol — i'm going to go reinstall now |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | HAHA |
| [01:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | yep channels and then |
| [01:38:00] | Achew22: | lol |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | orryh for laughing Achew22 |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | sorry even |
| [01:38:00] | Achew22: | its okay i'm laughing at myself |
| [01:38:00] | Jasper: | but stick with stable.. |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | isn't it possible to downgrade back to stable Juski ? |
| [01:39:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: in the last SVN I played with, there's a field to enter the xmltv ids |
| [01:39:00] | Juski: | erm.. no idea |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | prolly hard to do |
| [01:39:00] | Juski: | be just as quick to reinstall |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | better reinstall then |
| [01:39:00] | Juski: | more guarantee of working too |
| [01:39:00] | Jasper: | yup |
| [01:39:00] | Pitchin_uk: | there is freq id field |
| [01:40:00] | Jasper: | so Achew22 you didn't have much installed yet right? |
| [01:40:00] | Pitchin_uk: | but its not very big |
| [01:40:00] | Jasper: | at least that's what I figure since you don't have your videodevice installed yet |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: it's near the freqid field IIRC |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | or it was in the last SVN I played with |
| [01:41:00] | Juski: | might not even be there now I dunno |
| [01:41:00] | miketay: | Can someone tell me how this works? When my frontend requests a recording from the backend, how does the recording get sent over? |
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| [01:41:00] | Juski: | miketay: by magic & invisible pixie-dust |
| [01:41:00] | Juski: | erm.. the mythtv protocol ;-) |
| [01:42:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [01:42:00] | scottder: | Juski: you told me Magic Server Angels! fibber |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [01:42:00] | Jasper: | they beam it over.. |
| [01:42:00] | miketay: | I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to transfer my files nightly from one backend for viewing later on a front-end that's on a lower bandwidth connection |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | oh dear. a hiding to nothing if there ever was one |
| [01:43:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – doesn't seem to be there any way i have to hit the sack |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | unless by 'lower bandwidth' you mean like 512kbit upload pipe |
| [01:43:00] | Pitchin_uk: | just one last thing where was that file for a help with the ids ?? usr/share??? |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | Pitchin_uk: okees... stick to the channel editor etc then |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | comes in very handy |
| [01:44:00] | miketay: | Yeah, another location Juski, over the Internet |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | like when new channels are launched & you need to update its lookup list |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | figures, miketay |
| [01:45:00] | Juski: | bedtime for me now too.. I'm knackered |
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| [01:45:00] | briand: | evening all... |
| [01:45:00] | mofu: | BitTorrent is backing up my router . . . :-( |
| [01:45:00] | Jasper: | evening |
| [01:45:00] | Jasper: | off to bed also |
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| [01:45:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski – is discoveryrtime not airing?? and thanks for the help – i will be in touch when i have filled the db |
| [01:46:00] | briand: | xris: you'd be proud of me. finished the yum update overnight. ran `yum install qt-devel` this morning (installed fine), rebooted and went to work... |
| [01:47:00] | briand: | xris: ..came home to no MythTV display on the TV, and (coincidentally) also no internet connectivity (fibre cut ..grrr)... |
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| [01:48:00] | xpis: | briand: so you finally sorted out your package mess? |
| [01:48:00] | briand: | xris: and so, without help or benefit of any 'help' wikis or pages.. I reinstalled ivtv 0.4.0 (because I now had a new kernel!), ran depmod -a, remade my initrd and 0.18.1 is back up and running on the box, under the new kernel |
| [01:48:00] | briand: | xpis: yes, apparently. |
| [01:48:00] | xpis: | briand: so.. will 0.19 compile now? |
| [01:48:00] | briand: | the fonts are a little wacky now, in the 18.1 display — I imagine that's because of the new fontlib that installed during the yum update |
| [01:49:00] | xpis: | Is freetype properly installed and configured? |
| [01:49:00] | briand: | xpis: that's my second task... first, I need to reinstall lirc under the new kernel (Myth works, but only via my wireless keyboard) |
| [01:50:00] | briand: | dunno about that.. it's installed via the 'yum update' and/or 'yum install qt-devel' ... haven't done anything to "configure" it... |
| [01:50:00] | xpis: | It's probably that some fonts got lost. |
| [01:51:00] | briand: | yeah, i vaguely remember a page somewhere saying that the fonts look crummy, and download/install <<these>> fonts... which I did way back when. I guess I'll need to find that page and do that again, too. |
| [01:51:00] | xris: | briand: :) |
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| [01:52:00] | briand: | but I -do- have /usr/lib/qt-3.3 now... just need to add it to the path, and I can proceed with the 0.19 compile/install |
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| [01:55:00] | briand: | xpis: as we have determined that ATrpms is not necessarily a -good- thing... what would you suggest for getting lirc going again? (or is it already here, and I just need to do some linux-magic to put it under the new kernel? |
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| [02:14:00] | briand: | hmm. where might i find lame-devel ?? yum cannot locate one. :/ |
| [02:15:00] | scottder: | briand: for what? |
| [02:16:00] | briand: | scottder: i'm preparing to compile/install 0.19 ... i was led to believe it requires lame-devel to be installed |
| [02:16:00] | scottder: | FC4? |
| [02:16:00] | briand: | FC3 |
| [02:16:00] | nasa: | ok got svn install up and running (mostly), got a couple of issues I hope somone is kind enough to help me with. When I press "ok" (or select) within livetv (after entering numbers) it fails to change channels. "ok" works within the main menu for myth — so I don't think it's the remote... |
| [02:17:00] | scottder: | I see it on fresh-rpms |
| [02:17:00] | briand: | let me make sure yum.conf knows about fresh-rpms... |
| [02:18:00] | briand: | aha.. i don't have freshrpms in my yum.conf file... |
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| [02:22:00] | briand: | ah. okay.. got it. thanks, scottder :) |
| [02:22:00] | scottder: | glad I could help :) |
| [02:22:00] | scottder: | couldn't wait for the RPMs eh? :) |
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| [02:30:00] | nasa: | ok, simpler question... Is there any difference between ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc ? |
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| [02:31:00] | rtsai1111: | briand: try "liblame-dev" or "libmp3lame0-dev"; that's what it's called on my system |
| [02:32:00] | briand: | rtsai1111: thanks... got it, after i setup/enabled freshrpms in my yum.conf file. :) |
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| [02:32:00] | briand: | scott: nope. ;) |
| [02:32:00] | briand: | er, scottder: nope. ;) |
| [02:33:00] | scottder: | right ATrpms is all broke for me |
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| [02:33:00] | scott: | brian!!! you woke me up from my sleep |
| [02:34:00] | briand: | okay.. i think everything is ready to try compiling... after I reboot and add qt to my path... |
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| [02:34:00] | briand: | scott: sorry. :( |
| [02:34:00] | xpis: | briand: why do you need freshrpms to compile myth? |
| [02:34:00] | briand: | xpis: I needed to get lame-devel |
| [02:34:00] | scott: | it's ok brian :) we can still be valentine lovers |
| [02:34:00] | xpis: | briand: Just compile it from lame.sf.net |
| [02:34:00] | briand: | umm... |
| [02:34:00] | briand: | i dunno.. are you cute? ;) |
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| [02:35:00] | briand: | xpis: well, i've already got it now. :) |
| [02:35:00] | xpis: | briand: ok |
| [02:35:00] | sanmarcos: | is it possible to have the backend running on a machine with the capture card, and then lets say use the Windows client on another machine and watch live tv/schedule stuff from the client windows machine? |
| [02:35:00] | briand: | I also downgraded the urw-fonts (again!) |
| [02:35:00] | briand: | so i need to reboot for that to take effect in X |
| [02:36:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: yes, assuming the windows front-end is up to snuff. |
| [02:36:00] | sanmarcos: | briand, that is great |
| [02:36:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: you can use mythweb, but the frontend doesn't work on windows. Winmyth may be usuable, but it is out of date. |
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| [02:36:00] | sanmarcos: | 10mb network enough for seeing live tv? |
| [02:36:00] | briand: | hmm. |
| [02:36:00] | UBL: | nasa, just make a sym link from one to the other |
| [02:37:00] | briand: | well, see above about Winmyth being out-of-date. |
| [02:37:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: 10mbps, of course. |
| [02:37:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: dvd is around 6, irc. |
| [02:37:00] | xpis: | s/irc/iirc/ |
| [02:37:00] | xpis: | (bad laptop keyboard) |
| [02:37:00] | sanmarcos: | how can I check if my network is 100mb? |
| [02:37:00] | nasa: | UBL: thanks for the reply :} I am doing that — just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to cause any issues. |
| [02:37:00] | sanmarcos: | cat 5 supports 100mb right? |
| [02:37:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: you won't need 100mbps bandwidth. |
| [02:38:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: yes, cat5 supports 100mbps bandwidth. |
| [02:38:00] | sanmarcos: | ok, better checkout winmyth |
| [02:38:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: winmyth is out of date |
| [02:38:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: it won't work. |
| [02:38:00] | sanmarcos: | why not? |
| [02:39:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: It needs to be updated to work with the database and mythbackend protocol of the latest version. |
| [02:39:00] | sanmarcos: | I am running myth 0.18 afaikj |
| [02:39:00] | briand: | maybe, after i get the mythbox upgraded to 0.19, I'll set this machine up as a remote frontend... should look nice on my new 19" LCD, doncha think? |
| [02:40:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: since it is a completely separate codebase, keeping it in sync is not easy. |
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| [02:41:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: if you are up to the task, you could always help in updating it, and possibly merging it into the main mythtv codebase. |
| [02:42:00] | sanmarcos: | sure |
| [02:42:00] | xpis: | The mythtv protocol isn't standardized in any way.. so it would be a monumental task. |
| [02:42:00] | sanmarcos: | that is a bad coding practice |
| [02:42:00] | sanmarcos: | everything should be abstract |
| [02:43:00] | xpis: | mythtv isn't done that way. It's made as one huge codebase that incorporates everything – including the kitchen sink. |
| [02:43:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [02:43:00] | dtm: | xpis: terror++ |
| [02:44:00] | dtm: | xpis: i dont suppose there's any reason in asking you why that is :) |
| [02:44:00] | xpis: | dtm: save that for Chutt |
| [02:44:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: you can tell if your network is 100Mbps by sending data over it and seeing if arrived at about 100 Mbps ;) |
| [02:44:00] | sanmarcos: | that is 10mbytes |
| [02:44:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: or look at your hub/switch and see if the lights correspond with a speed. |
| [02:44:00] | Gumby: | someone mentioned in here that its possible to save a livetv as a recorded program. is this true and if so how does select the option to save it? |
| [02:44:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: or run 'mii-tool' on linux |
| [02:44:00] | briand: | xpis: actually you can `./configure --disable-kitchen-sink` before you compile. :) |
| [02:45:00] | sanmarcos: | dtm, do you happen to own a linksys? |
| [02:45:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: a linksys WHAT? |
| [02:45:00] | briand: | linksys sucks. |
| [02:45:00] | sanmarcos: | eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok I guess I am ok |
| [02:45:00] | dtm: | the mind boggles as to what 'linksys' could mean |
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| [02:46:00] | sanmarcos: | router |
| [02:46:00] | briand: | dtm: they make noisy routers and network cards that don't adhere to FCC Type 15 standards. |
| [02:46:00] | dtm: | and again. |
| [02:46:00] | xpis: | Getting mythtv to work on windows would almost certainly require a complete rewrite of winmyth to use code from libmyth. |
| [02:46:00] | sanmarcos: | their wrtg45 based on linux is extremely popualqar |
| [02:46:00] | dtm: | briand: noisy network cards? how's that possible? |
| [02:46:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: you mean wrt54g, now wrt54gl. |
| [02:46:00] | sanmarcos: | xpis, so winmyth version .18.6 wont let me watch live tv from my myth backend .18 ? |
| [02:47:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: yeah i've had a number of those for all purposes |
| [02:47:00] | sanmarcos: | dtm, ah see you know, liar liar |
| [02:47:00] | dtm: | with openwrt.org |
| [02:47:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: it might, I haven't tested it. |
| [02:47:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: :-I |
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| [02:47:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: give it a shot if you want. It won't work on the current version, though. |
| [02:47:00] | D-side: | eh, i wouldnt bother with less than a wrt54gs, and not the latest models either. |
| [02:47:00] | dtm: | sanmarcos: you're just babbling, ignoramus ignoramus :) |
| [02:48:00] | briand: | dtm: The same way it's possible that they stamp them "conforms to FCC Type 15 specifications for incidental radiators" and yet it tears the hell out of nearby FM and amateur reception. |
| [02:49:00] | xpis: | Getting winmyth to work on all mythtv versions would require an almost wine like approach in using libmythtv code. |
| [02:49:00] | dtm: | briand: you're talking about wifi cards and APs? |
| [02:49:00] | briand: | ...doesn't even have to be moving packets.. just power it up, and the hashing begins |
| [02:49:00] | dtm: | briand: i hadn't heard about that in particular |
| [02:49:00] | sanmarcos: | I like hash |
| [02:49:00] | briand: | dtm: no, standard 10/100-base-T wired network |
| [02:49:00] | dtm: | whaaaa?!! amazing |
| [02:49:00] | briand: | I replaced my linksys routers with NetGear equipment. no more noise. |
| [02:50:00] | sanmarcos: | linksys works fine for me, although netgear seems a second choice |
| [02:50:00] | briand: | and my 2-meter and HF tranceivers are less than 5 feet from the router. |
| [02:50:00] | briand: | sanmarcos: fine. glad it works for you. |
| [02:50:00] | sanmarcos: | yeah no need to brag briand |
| [02:51:00] | briand: | who's bragging? |
| [02:52:00] | dtm: | :-I |
| [02:52:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: it may be easier to just get another linux box than to do a massive porting effort. |
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| [02:52:00] | sanmarcos: | i would love to go offtopic in an abstract obscure and totally freaky convo, but back to mythtv, the mpeg4 encoder it encodes to standar mpeg4? so then it can be converted to xvid, divx |
| [02:52:00] | sanmarcos: | xpis, yeah I will once the sun turns nova |
| [02:53:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: it encodes to msmpeg4 |
| [02:53:00] | sanmarcos: | xpis, as much as I love developement, I cant stand QT and besides I just have basic experiences with C++ |
| [02:53:00] | sanmarcos: | I would guess Myth is entirely written in C++ |
| [02:53:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: this can be transcoded to smaller xvid files later, for transfer elsewhere. |
| [02:53:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: yes, it's qt and c++. |
| [02:54:00] | sanmarcos: | xpis, ok, ill have to check that out, since I dont need mpeg2 quality, although it is nice that some cards (haupp 350) do it on the card itself |
| [02:54:00] | sanmarcos: | mencoder is great for converting files anyways |
| [02:55:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: mythtv currently can't do mpeg2 software encoding – as it is not implemented. (although ffmpeg supports it) |
| [02:55:00] | sanmarcos: | xpis, ah.. have you tried freevo? |
| [02:55:00] | sanmarcos: | or has anybody tried it, does it even compare to myth? |
| [02:56:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: no, I haven't tried freevo... which doesn't even come close in features to mythtv. |
| [02:57:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: freevo uses mencoder to encode video from framegrabbers, so it supports any formats/encoding options that mencoder does. |
| [02:57:00] | sanmarcos: | basically everything out there if setup with the right codecs |
| [02:58:00] | sanmarcos: | anyways, Id yet have to try enconding with the "high quality" low quality, live tv presets, I dont even know what they mean |
| [02:58:00] | xpis: | You will probably want to adjust the settings to use mpeg4 rather than the default mjpeg, which results in very large files. |
| [02:58:00] | Gumby: | someone mentioned in here that its possible to save a livetv as a recorded program. is this true and if so how does select the option to save it? |
| [02:59:00] | xpis: | Gumby: are you using 0.19? |
| [02:59:00] | Gumby: | xpis: yes |
| [02:59:00] | xpis: | Gumby: then livetv recordings are already saved programs |
| [02:59:00] | xpis: | Gumby: set your filter options (using the M key iirc) to display them in your watch recordings menu. |
| [03:00:00] | Gumby: | xpis: any idea what the name of that option is in the key settings? All mine are changed from the defaults so I cant just look for "m" in mythweb keybindings |
| [03:02:00] | sanmarcos: | is there a list of the keybindings of the livetv mode? |
| [03:02:00] | xpis: | it should be whatever you have *M*enu set to. |
| [03:02:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: see the documentation |
| [03:04:00] | sanmarcos: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 |
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| [03:07:00] | nasa: | which does a better job of fullscreen, xmame.SDL or xmame.x11 |
| [03:08:00] | sanmarcos: | probably x11 |
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| [03:09:00] | nasa: | thanks sanmarcos |
| [03:09:00] | D-side: | xris: howdy. |
| [03:09:00] | D-side: | v-day stuff must be over with. :) |
| [03:09:00] | sanmarcos: | ahh I need to update to .19 ... |
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| [03:10:00] | Gumby: | thx xpis |
| [03:10:00] | sanmarcos: | cant wait until there are debian packags |
| [03:11:00] | Gumby: | sanmarcos: I used ububtu ones adn they worked flawlessly |
| [03:11:00] | sanmarcos: | Gumby, in debian? anyways I could build from source |
| [03:11:00] | sanmarcos: | Myth gives the impression of being a giant |
| [03:11:00] | Gumby: | deb http://deb.thehunter.ws/ breezy mythtv-stable |
| [03:11:00] | Gumby: | deb-src http://deb.thehunter.ws/ breezy mythtv-stable |
| [03:11:00] | Gumby: | those are the two sources I used |
| [03:12:00] | Gumby: | no idea about building |
| [03:12:00] | sanmarcos: | but you are in debian? |
| [03:12:00] | Gumby: | yep |
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| [03:12:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: it's a giant.. but since the kitchen sink is included, there's no need to configure 10 different things. |
| [03:12:00] | sanmarcos: | breezy is old anyways |
| [03:12:00] | sanmarcos: | xpis, did you just replace the kitchen sink? |
| [03:12:00] | xpis: | sanmarcos: ? |
| [03:13:00] | sanmarcos: | dont know what that means |
| [03:13:00] | Gumby: | sanmarcos: well, I can tell you that it works just fine. I disabled the dijkstra.csh.rit.edu sources, added those, and did apt-get install mythtv. backend runs flawless |
| [03:13:00] | sanmarcos: | I use marillat |
| [03:14:00] | Gumby: | well, have fun waiting for 0.19 then |
| [03:14:00] | sanmarcos: | it is only close captioning and the new theme that interests me, and the livetv buffering |
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| [03:18:00] | sanmarcos: | I thought hare krishna stopped doing deb packages anyway |
| [03:19:00] | simcop2387: | hrmm i'm recording more tv than i can watch but i want to get another tuner to record more... is there something wrong with me? |
| [03:20:00] | sanmarcos: | simcop2387, yes, go see a psychologist, you have a problem balancing your life |
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| [03:27:00] | simcop2387: | sanmarcos: seriously? |
| [03:27:00] | dtm: | simcop2387: why'd you ask? |
| [03:27:00] | sanmarcos: | simcop2387, I dont know, what is your theory? |
| [03:28:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: or.. just watch your TV in 1.3x (or so) speed |
| [03:29:00] | sanmarcos: | yeah, skip the crap parts |
| [03:29:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: no, just speed the whole thing up |
| [03:29:00] | simcop2387: | xpis: i already watch it without commercials and at 2x |
| [03:29:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: so you see the entire show – at a slightly higher speed. |
| [03:30:00] | simcop2387: | lets see ~3x faster (22min – commercials, 11min @ 2x, giving 11/30) |
| [03:30:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: alternatively, you could just orbit the earth in a (very large) orbit nearing the speed of light. |
| [03:31:00] | simcop2387: | xpis: easier to do it that to a black hole |
| [03:31:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: but those are so hard to get to. |
| [03:31:00] | simcop2387: | xpis: but if you can go near the speed of light it wouldn't be that hard |
| [03:31:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: and once you've gotten near one, it would take quite a bit of energy to escape. |
| [03:32:00] | simcop2387: | who says i want to escape? |
| [03:32:00] | xpis: | simcop: rofl |
| [03:32:00] | simcop2387: | it'll only send be back to a white hole anyway |
| [03:32:00] | sanmarcos: | anti matter |
| [03:32:00] | Discipulus: | antimatter is cool |
| [03:33:00] | xpis: | You would still die on schedule, though – as you see it. It's just no one on earth will ever know you are dead. |
| [03:33:00] | simcop2387: | or that i had been alive |
| [03:33:00] | simcop2387: | unless history remembers it |
| [03:33:00] | xpis: | You won't be dead to people far away from the black hole. |
| [03:35:00] | xpis: | anyway... since approaching the speed of light is not an option... you will just have to speed up the video. |
| [03:36:00] | xpis: | MythRelativity is still in heavy development, and shouldn't be relied upon. Bugs include annihilation and black hole creation. |
| [03:37:00] | xpis: | Until it is ready, video time warping will have to do. |
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| [03:43:00] | simcop2387: | how would i check my Apache setup to figure out why mythweb 0.19 isn't working? |
| [03:44:00] | Agrajag-: | how isn't it working? |
| [03:44:00] | briand: | xpis: how are you at troubleshooting lirc installation? I can't seem to get it working again... |
| [03:45:00] | simcop2387: | Agrajag-: keeps saying that it can't connect to the DB and says that either mod_env isn't loaded or that Options/AllowOveride isn't set correctly when i believe they should be according to the config |
| [03:45:00] | simcop2387: | the DB, backend, and apache are all on the same machine |
| [03:45:00] | Agrajag-: | well check your error/access logs |
| [03:46:00] | briand: | xpis: relevant output of dmesg >> http://pastebin.ca/41694 |
| [03:47:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: make sure AllowOverride is set to all for the directory mythweb is in. |
| [03:47:00] | simcop2387: | it is |
| [03:49:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: and did you sigup apache? |
| [03:50:00] | xpis: | s/sigup/sighup/ |
| [03:50:00] | simcop2387: | i've restarted it several times, sighup, complete shutdown/restart |
| [03:51:00] | simcop2387: | nothing in error logs or strange in access logs |
| [03:52:00] | xpis: | briand: there is no error in that pastebin.. what is the problem? |
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| [03:53:00] | briand: | did you miss the 'kernel tainted' bit? |
| [03:53:00] | xpis: | simcop2387: And are you sure you set allowoverride for the correct directory? And that it is not being overridden by another more specific setting? |
| [03:53:00] | briand: | i don't remember ever seeing that before... |
| [03:53:00] | xpis: | briand: the kernel tainting shouldn't matter. |
| [03:53:00] | DSC22: | Is there an easy way to refresh the entire channel listings? Mine is coded to the wrong timezone |
| [03:53:00] | xpis: | briand: the driver is otherwise loading properly |
| [03:54:00] | briand: | xpis: yes, and lsmod shows lirc_dev and lirc_i2c both loaded |
| [03:54:00] | simcop2387: | aha, that was the problem, apache kept thinking things should be in another place |
| [03:54:00] | briand: | my .lircrc link to -> /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc is still in place... but the remote doesn't work. The keyboard does, though... |
| [03:55:00] | xpis: | And is this lirc configuration correct for your remote? |
| [03:56:00] | simcop2387: | i like the new mythweb |
| [03:56:00] | briand: | i picked 'hauppauge' in the ./setup.sh for lirc when I compiled it. |
| [03:57:00] | simcop2387: | though on the index.php/mythweb.php the background doesn't extend down all the way |
| [03:57:00] | simcop2387: | on my screen |
| [03:58:00] | xpis: | simcop: are you using firefox? |
| [03:58:00] | xpis: | simcop: or some other mozilla-based browser |
| [04:00:00] | briand: | xpis: ah, wait.. i'll bet I need(ed) to do a `depmod -a` after installing it, eh? |
| [04:00:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: should we ask when the next release comes out? |
| [04:01:00] | xpis: | briand: yes, that would help. |
| [04:02:00] | briand: | xpis: heheh. yeah.. waiting for the bootup to complete, so I can see if it works now. |
| [04:03:00] | briand: | grr. still doesn't work. :( |
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| [04:04:00] | xpis: | Try running the lirc auto configuration program. See if it recognizes buttons. |
| [04:06:00] | briand: | lirc auto configuration program? |
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| [04:08:00] | xpis: | yes, to set up a remote by manually pressing buttons |
| [04:08:00] | xpis: | I'm not currently using lirc, though I have experimented with it. Look at the documentation to see the proper procedure. |
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| [04:17:00] | hadees: | anyone know how to add keys or change the keys on a niveus remote? |
| [04:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, that would depend on how you are controlling it I suppose |
| [04:20:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, i am not sure what you mean |
| [04:21:00] | hadees: | i have the driver source |
| [04:21:00] | hadees: | don't i need to edit that |
| [04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | What I mean is that how you would do it would depend on what you are using to control it. the ATI_REMOTE kernel module or the lirc ati_usb module |
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| [04:22:00] | hadees: | ah ATI_REMOTE |
| [04:22:00] | hadees: | i didn't know about the lirc ati_usb |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | then yes, edit the source, find the definition you want to change, and change it |
| [04:22:00] | hadees: | hmm is that better or worse? lirc has some problems |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | receompile, reload |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use lirc, I can't give a comparison |
| [04:23:00] | hadees: | with the driver though how do you enter, is this the right place to edit? {KIND_FILTERED, 0xa2, 0x5d, EV_KEY, KEY_5, 1}, /* 5 Button */ |
| [04:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Try that again, in english |
| [04:24:00] | hadees: | how do you enter a key |
| [04:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, if you wanted to change that particular key defintion, you would change KEY_5 to be the key you want...for example KEY_A |
| [04:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can find the KEY_* defintions in /usr/include/linux/input.h |
| [04:25:00] | hadees: | thats it just the KEY_ then the button name |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pretty much |
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| [04:29:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, thanks |
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| [04:45:00] | Kyler: | Well, after much twiddling I finally figured out how to make the kernel saa7115 really get along with MythTV. The saa7115 wants values in the range 0–127 for saturation and contrast. MythTV likes to set both of those to 127. Yeow! I decided that Myth probably thinks that's midrange (on a scale of 0–255) so I just modified saa7115.c to do "ctrl->value /= 2;" for contrast and saturation. Looks fine now. |
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| [04:47:00] | Chutt: | Kyler, myth does query the possible range for those values, and scales what it sets to that – i'd check if the driver was reporting those values properly |
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| [04:51:00] | Kyler: | Chutt: Hmmm...interesting...looking... |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | xpis: service --status-all shows me this "lircd dead but subsys locked" |
| [04:53:00] | Kyler: | Chutt: Yup, the mainline kernel had the max values for contrast and saturation wrong. |
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| [04:57:00] | Agrajag-: | Kyler: it's not the module that has it wrong? |
| [04:57:00] | Kyler: | Chutt: Thanks for the help. That did it. I should send that to someone... |
| [04:57:00] | gpx1000: | I'd like to connect mythphone to Asterisk on the localhost. Can someone help me with this? Or point me in the direction of a resource to read up on it? |
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| [05:08:00] | dmachi: | anyone here know of a work around for the freeze when switching ring buffers with a pvr-350 in 0.19 ? |
| [05:14:00] | ShockValue: | is it possible to turn off the large tv buffer? my wife likes to surf around the channels, and it takes a long time due to this (i assume its the buffering anyway) |
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| [05:18:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, it's more the lag in the tuner change and the buffering to encode the video |
| [05:18:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, channel changing will always have a delay |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | ShockValue: just be glad you don't have to wait for both mythtv *and* a satellite receiver... |
| [05:20:00] | ShockValue: | i do.... |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | takes me like 5–8 seconds to change channels |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | I don't bother with livetv |
| [05:20:00] | ShockValue: | takes like 15 seconds to start live tv, and 5+ to change channels |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, that's normal, aye |
| [05:21:00] | kormoc: | at least for me |
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| [05:22:00] | ShockValue: | all i know is that 0.18 -> 0.19 added at least 5 seconds on startup, and a couple more per channel change |
| [05:22:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [05:22:00] | kormoc: | it cut time for myself |
| [05:22:00] | ole_schoola: | me too |
| [05:22:00] | ole_schoola: | cut time |
| [05:22:00] | ShockValue: | i assumed it was because of the new recording features |
| [05:23:00] | ole_schoola: | nah, the bits were flyin down the wire in either case |
| [05:23:00] | ShockValue: | now when i change channels, i see the "myth osd" for 3 seconds, and /then/ it changes the channels on my satelite box |
| [05:24:00] | xris: | ShockValue: don't think the new recording features added anything. |
| [05:24:00] | xris: | there are some lingering prebuffering pause issues, though. |
| [05:24:00] | ole_schoola: | ShockValue: sounds more like your sat box takes 3 secs to get in gear |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | but they're supposedly fairly rare |
| [05:26:00] | ** xris really likes the new mpeg2cut functionality ** | |
| [05:26:00] | xris: | I think I can probably just remove it from nuvexport now. |
| [05:26:00] | ShockValue: | ole_schoola – perhaps, but i didnt change anything on the channel script nor has my box received any new updates.. |
| [05:27:00] | ShockValue: | seems to me like myth is taking longer to call the channel change script maybe? |
| [05:28:00] | ole_schoola: | hmmm, i'm prolly blaming the unknown — i only have ATSC and analog/QAM cable right now |
| [05:29:00] | Chutt: | xris, that's working well for you, then? |
| [05:31:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah, so far |
| [05:31:00] | xris: | I couldn't find the old checkbox for keeping the pre-cut files, so I just started testing. |
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| [05:33:00] | xris: | lets me pull out 900M from each hour of tv I record... not bad. |
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| [05:34:00] | scott: | mythtv has cost me 4,000 dollars |
| [05:35:00] | kormoc: | scott, seems a bit much |
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| [05:35:00] | dmz: | yeah how many plasma tv's did you by to run off the 6 computers you built for frontends? |
| [05:35:00] | xris: | scott: I could say that it's made me much more than that... since I'm sure it contributes to my keeping my job. |
| [05:36:00] | Chutt: | myth got me my job |
| [05:36:00] | Chutt: | so it's made me... uh, quite a lot |
| [05:36:00] | xris: | and this channel got kormoc his job. |
| [05:36:00] | scott: | The controller I bought was 500 dollars |
| [05:36:00] | kormoc: | well, I guess I could say that it also got me my job as well |
| [05:36:00] | dtm: | scott: are you sure you dont mean that your media habit cost you $4000? |
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| [05:37:00] | dtm: | scott: or does mythtv ... *talk* to you? and... make you.. DO things? |
| [05:38:00] | scott: | I'm just playing around |
| [05:38:00] | scott: | I like mythtv a lot |
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| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, awake? |
| [05:39:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: yep |
| [05:39:00] | Cardoe: | what's up? |
| [05:39:00] | xris: | dtm: it does to me. |
| [05:39:00] | Cardoe: | I have a better idea then the kde patch I submitted |
| [05:39:00] | xris: | oh, speaking of which.. now that I have channel icons again, I can finish taking my screencaps |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | you wanted me earlier? |
| [05:40:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: oh yeah |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | well, a _lot_ earlier today |
| [05:40:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: can we get "0.19.1" targets and stuff in trac? |
| [05:40:00] | dtm: | xris: me too. ....dear God.... |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | targets? |
| [05:40:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: not really an important request. |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | i know i need to add 0.19 _versions_ |
| [05:41:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | i don't want to add a specific milestone for 0.19.1, though |
| [05:41:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | since that's more of a 'release it if it's needed' thing |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | what's the 'time' variable associated with a version in trac for? |
| [05:42:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [05:42:00] | Cardoe: | I'm getting an Xbox setup for Myth |
| [05:42:00] | Cardoe: | so I'll be able to test there for ya |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: time variable? where at? |
| [05:43:00] | Chutt: | just don't compile on it :p |
| [05:43:00] | Chutt: | version add <name> [time] — Add version |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | no way |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [05:43:00] | Chutt: | version time <name> <time> — Set version date (Format: "YYYY-MM-DD" or "now") |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | when the version was "released" |
| [05:43:00] | xris: | Chutt: maybe an expected release date? |
| [05:43:00] | Cardoe: | yeah you can post date or pre date |
| [05:43:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | so you can say 0.20 is expected in 2020 |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | i need to decide if i want to move over to their 'new ticket model' at some point |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | query based searching? |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | it's really good |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | err, isn't that more milestones? |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | and easy to setup |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | milestone due date |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | no, their new ticket model gets rid of priority |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | or severity |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | that |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | one of them |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | switch the ticket views to query |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | http://gentopia.gentooexperimental.org |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | check it out there |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt: | that's the new report module |
| [05:45:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | aw, shit, g++ just crashed |
| [05:46:00] | Cardoe: | :( |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | something's wonky in one of my ram modules |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | will crash under extended periods of very high load |
| [05:46:00] | Cardoe: | yeah sounds like it |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | but memtest86 runs for days |
| [05:46:00] | Cardoe: | could be heat |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | naw, cpu's under 50c |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | ram's underclocked |
| [05:47:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, depending on the vendor, could rma it |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | it's been too long :p |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | and i don't know which of the 4 modules |
| [05:47:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: how's everything working? |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | oh yeah |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, so far quite good. |
| [05:47:00] | Cardoe: | good |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, what's the ebuild description for 'mythcontrols'? |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, tis why I like corsair, lifetime RMA's, no questions asked. |
| [05:48:00] | Cardoe: | ha |
| [05:48:00] | Cardoe: | something stupid |
| [05:48:00] | Cardoe: | I didn't have a clue |
| [05:48:00] | Cardoe: | I never even saw mythcontrols added in 0.18 |
| [05:48:00] | Cardoe: | I asked in here |
| [05:48:00] | Cardoe: | no one had an answer for me |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, Cardoe, ooh, one issue I've found. The little preview display in the recorded tv window has it's colors slightly off in a slanting lined pattern. |
| [05:48:00] | Cardoe: | External Controls for MythTV. |
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| [05:49:00] | Cardoe: | g++ crashed |
| [05:49:00] | Cardoe: | and he thinks he's having RAM issue... |
| [05:49:00] | Cardoe: | heh |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I've had that happen with known bad ram before :P |
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| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: I've seen that identical problem, though strangley not on all my frontends |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | silly unstable kde |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, do all the ones that do it use xvmc? |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use xvmc at all |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | kk |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, wasn't bad ram, kwin crashed :p |
| [05:51:00] | kormoc: | Yeah, I donno what could do it. |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | i upgraded kde a few hours ago |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: hah |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | hadn't restarted it yet |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | so i was really asking for it =) |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/preview.jpg |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | was gonna say... g++ crashed then you 104ed on us |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | mythcontrols is a keybindings editor, basically |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [05:51:00] | Cardoe: | cool |
| [05:51:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, that's exactly it, aye |
| [05:52:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: where'd you see the weird description? |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | someone asked what the hell it was on the mailing list |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: Do you use the Gui width/height adjustments at all ? |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | and posted the gentoo ebuild description |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, negative. Pure full screen |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | k, |
| [05:52:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: ha. I was asking what the hell it was |
| [05:52:00] | Cardoe: | and people were like "uh dunno" |
| [05:53:00] | Cardoe: | there wasn't anything in the README |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt: | could've, well, run it :p |
| [05:53:00] | Cardoe: | my x86 Myth box is dead. :( |
| [05:53:00] | Cardoe: | all I've got is the PPC box |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | which isn't behaving with the TV |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | which is why it's going in a closet sometimes |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | and the Xbox is going to take charge |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | there |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | "Key Binding Editor for MythTV" |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | is the new description |
| [05:55:00] | Chutt: | excellent |
| [05:56:00] | Cardoe: | hah |
| [05:56:00] | Cardoe: | I just saw an ad for allergy stuff |
| [05:57:00] | Cardoe: | side affects may include viral infection, coughing, sneezing, running nose, and inflamed temp |
| [05:57:00] | dtm: | :-. |
| [05:57:00] | Cardoe: | so basically... same thing as an allergy... |
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| [06:02:00] | gpx1000: | So anyone able to help? Or direct me to documentation? |
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| [06:11:00] | Cardoe: | gpx1000: I've been in the chan for over 40 min |
| [06:11:00] | Cardoe: | and you haven't said a word except saying "anyone able to help" |
| [06:11:00] | Cardoe: | help with what |
| [06:11:00] | Cardoe: | read the links in the topic |
| [06:11:00] | gpx1000: | I'd like to connect mythphone to Asterisk on the localhost. Can someone help me with this? Or point me in the direction of a resource to read up on it? |
| [06:12:00] | gpx1000: | Cardoe, sorry was being patient after asking question. |
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| [06:15:00] | Cardoe: | wiki? |
| [06:17:00] | gpx1000: | Cardoe, nothing that seems to be useful... The problem comes from the fact that I can't seem to get asterisk to let mythphone login. I'm trying to set mythphone to use the localhost as it's IP and asterisk is confusing the real IP with the localhost IP. |
| [06:17:00] | kormoc: | gpx1000, mythtv-users might be a better place to ask as well. |
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| [06:19:00] | gpx1000: | kormoc, erm... what? :-) is this not mythtv-users? :-) |
| [06:19:00] | kormoc: | gpx1000, the mailing list, sorry :P |
| [06:19:00] | gpx1000: | kormoc, ahh... yeah, that's going to be my next stop... wanted to try here first. |
| [06:20:00] | lightx: | is their a way to make mythtv not play with the ivtv settings? i like my card brightness high but for some reason, it always reset it to 127.127.127 |
| [06:21:00] | Calroth: | afaik, mythphone doesn't connect to asterisk? don't you need to be an IAX client to do that? |
| [06:21:00] | kormoc: | lightx, you can set what myth sets it to, if that would fix it |
| [06:21:00] | lightx: | where? |
| [06:21:00] | kormoc: | lightx, myth allows a perchannel setting. it's in the DB. |
| [06:22:00] | gpx1000: | Calroth, asterisk supports SIP clients which mythphone is. |
| [06:22:00] | lightx: | oh boy, can i change them all in one setting? |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | lightx, yup |
| [06:22:00] | Calroth: | ahh, well my knowledge of Asterisk doesn't go much past that :-) |
| [06:22:00] | lightx: | in mythtv-setup ? |
| [06:22:00] | gpx1000: | Calroth, no worries... |
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| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | lightx, nah, you're gonna have to adventure into mysql |
| [06:23:00] | gpx1000: | Alright, well I guess I'll go ahead and go for the mailing list... if that doesn't work, I'll try something else. |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | lightx, on the computer the has the database: mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | lightx, then at the mysql> prompt |
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| [06:24:00] | lightx: | yep |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | lightx, UPDATE channel SET brightness=bleh; |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | when bleh is what you want it to be |
| [06:24:00] | lightx: | of course, ;-) |
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| [06:25:00] | lightx: | thanks |
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| [06:25:00] | kormoc: | lightx, np :) |
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| [06:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. whats something cool i can do w/ a 2inch speaker? |
| [06:25:00] | kormoc: | lightx, you can also change contrast, colour, and hue the same way, if you want |
| [06:25:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, make sounds? |
| [06:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [06:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i mean attach it to what |
| [06:25:00] | lightx: | great! |
| [06:25:00] | Yellow-Snow: | use it for what? speaker phone? |
| [06:25:00] | lightx: | good to know. |
| [06:26:00] | kormoc: | lightx, DESCRIBE channel will show you all the fields in that table and what they are, if you care to explore a little :) |
| [06:26:00] | lightx: | nice. |
| [06:26:00] | lightx: | will check that out. |
| [06:26:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, hrm. What about say, a load monitor. have a constant tone that changes based on the load! |
| [06:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? |
| [06:27:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, as the cpu get's used, have the tone go up, so it becomes a shrill sound! |
| [06:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | or |
| [06:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | install it in the front of my box |
| [06:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | for another speaker for my tv |
| [06:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ! |
| [06:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | or put leds around it |
| [06:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | make it light up |
| [06:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | idk |
| [06:30:00] | lightx: | kormoc: know anything about changing the saturation? |
| [06:31:00] | kormoc: | lightx, might be colour |
| [06:31:00] | lightx: | i tried UPDATE channel SET hue=0; |
| [06:31:00] | lightx: | but, got a -127 when doing ivtvctl -Y |
| [06:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wtf how do u delete a file thats read only? |
| [06:31:00] | kormoc: | lightx, try setting it to 128 and see if it becomes a 1 in ivtvctl? |
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| [06:33:00] | lightx: | can i set something in mysql while watching livetv ? |
| [06:33:00] | lightx: | or do i need to quit then change mysql then restart mythfrontend? |
| [06:33:00] | kormoc: | shouldn't need to restart the frontend |
| [06:33:00] | kormoc: | but likely need to exit livetv and go back |
| [06:33:00] | kormoc: | or |
| [06:34:00] | kormoc: | maybe if you press M and see if there's a option to set the hue |
| [06:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | How do u delete read only files? |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, make them writable? |
| [06:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | how? |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, make the directory writable? |
| [06:37:00] | lightx: | brightness is stuck at 0 and hue is stuck at -127 |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, chmod |
| [06:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | chmod -c ? what exactly |
| [06:38:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, chmod +w file |
| [06:38:00] | lightx: | nevermind, .. im probably on crack |
| [06:38:00] | kormoc: | +w means to add wriable |
| [06:38:00] | kormoc: | lightx, ooh? |
| [06:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | .. i did that kormoc |
| [06:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | still cant delete |
| [06:40:00] | lightx: | nop, not on crack, not working |
| [06:40:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, chmod +w directory |
| [06:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | chmod +w *vob |
| [06:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh |
| [06:41:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, you need write permissions on the direcotry as well to delete |
| [06:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | nope |
| [06:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | chmod +w video_ts |
| [06:42:00] | lightx: | kormoc: its not accepting the values for some reason |
| [06:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | chmod: chaning permissions of 'video_ts': read-only file system |
| [06:42:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, that's different |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, that's a read only filesystem, the filesystem itself can't be written to |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | lightx, odd... |
| [06:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i just want to delete it |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | Yellow-Snow, from what? |
| [06:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | my computer |
| [06:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | video_ts |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | a dvd? harddrive? |
| [06:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | all this juck that was made when i was ripping a dvd |
| [06:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | and canceled |
| [06:45:00] | lightx: | kormoc: in my mythbackend log is complains that it cant set those values because they are out of range, im trying to set them at 1 tho.. so ?! |
| [06:45:00] | kormoc: | lightx, odd... |
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| [06:46:00] | kormoc: | lightx, mine is set to 32768 |
| [06:46:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm getting a mac mini to use as a frontend.. does anyone know if lirc can compile on on osx? |
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| [06:50:00] | lightx: | kormoc: if i use the latest ivtv driver, it uses the term saturation not colour, do you think thats a problem or !? |
| [06:51:00] | kormoc: | lightx, ivtv 0.4.0 uses saturation for myself as well... |
| [06:53:00] | Chutt: | channel spamming sucks. |
| [06:58:00] | opello: | heh, a fake lilo, fun |
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| [07:03:00] | Calroth: | i've never heard of anyone using lirc on mac os x |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | 'linux infrared controller' |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [07:04:00] | Calroth: | you'd need a usb infrared receiver (no serial port on macs), does lirc even support those? |
| [07:04:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | calroth: do you know what kind of remote controls that are mac osx compatable |
| [07:04:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | calroth: yes, the streamzap remote works great on my linux box |
| [07:04:00] | Calroth: | i don't know about mac remote controls, but i haven't read up on them... with the release of frontrow, some may have cropped up |
| [07:05:00] | Calroth: | personally i'd just use a wireless keyboard ;-) |
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| [07:05:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | true.. I'm just now doing research on mythtv and mac.. does mythtv.info still exist? |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | heck, I'm surprised Jobs didnt build an ir receiver on the mac :) |
| [07:05:00] | Calroth: | the new imac does have an infrared receiver and remote control, it comes standard |
| [07:06:00] | Calroth: | also has 6 buttons total |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | Calroth: well, there you go then :) |
| [07:06:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | does the mac mini come with that? |
| [07:06:00] | Calroth: | nope, imac only |
| [07:06:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | damn |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | Calroth: time to get an imac, dont ya think? |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | Jobs and his never ending HW treadmill |
| [07:07:00] | Calroth: | mac mini wasn't designed as a pvr, although you're not the first to consider it :-) |
| [07:07:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yeah, I've read on the mailing list about it |
| [07:07:00] | Calroth: | i doubt the processor can handle HD though, at least not in its current state |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | lol, I doubt the proc can handle SD |
| [07:07:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm not worried about HD right now, so I think it would be right up my street |
| [07:08:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | really, at 1.5ghz? |
| [07:08:00] | Calroth: | it can handle SD just fine :-) |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | only if you run osx :) |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | not linux |
| [07:09:00] | Calroth: | never tried mythfrontend on linux on mac hardware |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | gah.... |
| [07:09:00] | dtm: | i have mythfrontend on macos on a 350 MHz g3 with macos and the backend on a 233 MHz powerbook with ppc linux |
| [07:10:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | calroth: what about a native osx mythfronted? |
| [07:10:00] | dtm: | JoeyJoeJo: what about it |
| [07:10:00] | Calroth: | dtm – what kind of performance do you get? |
| [07:10:00] | Calroth: | my g3/400 can't decode SD digital |
| [07:10:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | did you try that calroth? a native osx frontend? |
| [07:10:00] | Calroth: | and yes, I have a native mac os x frontend, works fine |
| [07:11:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | sweet, thats exactly what I wanted to hear.. have you upgraded to .19 yet? |
| [07:11:00] | Calroth: | nope... winter olympics ;-) |
| [07:12:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | where can I find the osx frontend? |
| [07:13:00] | dtm: | JoeyJoeJo: google |
| [07:13:00] | Calroth: | http://www.thesniderpad.com/ and click on "Downloads" |
| [07:13:00] | Calroth: | or build your own, like I did :-p |
| [07:13:00] | mchou: | anyone have any experience with using usb drive enclosures? |
| [07:14:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | thanks.. can the frontend compile from the regular sources on osx? |
| [07:15:00] | Calroth: | sure |
| [07:15:00] | Calroth: | there are scripts to automate it for you, else you have to compile qt, mysql, etc. etc. for yourself |
| [07:15:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | awesome, thanks for the info |
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| [07:16:00] | Calroth: | np |
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| [07:23:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | question.. I'm new to mac, so what is a dmg file? |
| [07:31:00] | xris: | JoeyJoeJo: disk image. |
| [07:31:00] | xris: | sort of like an easily-mountable compressed iso |
| [07:31:00] | Chutt: | new dvd stuff seems to actually kindof work |
| [07:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | xris: thaks |
| [07:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | thanks |
| [07:32:00] | Arkkis: | kormoc, the setup runs just fine, but I found a major downside, this xinerama setup is _slow_! |
| [07:32:00] | kormoc: | Arkkis, it's not that bad imho |
| [07:34:00] | Arkkis: | well, I have noticed a great reduce in speed after switching from two-disp twinview to three-disp xinerama, using firefox for an example is a pain |
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| [08:56:00] | johnp_: | morning |
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| [09:38:00] | bazil: | hi guyes .. need urgent help .. im at work .. and want to watch olympics from my mythcomputer via stream .. anyone willing to help out settin it up .. dont see i have the time reading how2 since i need this within an hour ???? |
| [09:39:00] | Puh: | are you sure you have the bw required to view your recordings over the net? |
| [09:39:00] | bazil: | when i click on recorded flick i get a link like http:/127.0.0.1:6543/recordingtitle.nuv |
| [09:40:00] | Puh: | ahem |
| [09:40:00] | Puh: | 127.0.0.1 refers to localhost |
| [09:40:00] | bazil: | hmm .. have 0.8mbit out from server .. cant i record in lowquality and cope with thtat ? |
| [09:40:00] | Puh: | well that depends on your system setup |
| [09:40:00] | bazil: | yea .. but if i change 127 to my ipnr .. it still cant find anything .. |
| [09:41:00] | bazil: | winmyth doesnt work on the computers ive tryed ... otherwise that would work i think .. it doesnt install like it should |
| [09:41:00] | Puh: | uh, i have to go get some lunch |
| [09:41:00] | bazil: | k |
| [09:42:00] | bazil: | thnks anyhow |
| [09:42:00] | Puh: | if you still need help when im back ill try to help you |
| [09:42:00] | bazil: | great .. thanks |
| [09:42:00] | Puh: | now.. must.. eat.. -> |
| [09:42:00] | bazil: | ill try myself in the meantime |
| [09:42:00] | bazil: | later bud |
| [09:48:00] | bazil: | what port does mysql use ? |
| [09:48:00] | johnp_: | 3306 ? |
| [09:48:00] | bazil: | oki |
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| [10:04:00] | juski: | morning |
| [10:06:00] | Merlin83b: | Morning juski. |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | got a couple of hdd caddies to replace tonight |
| [10:10:00] | bazil: | mornin |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | might even get my performance review today – who knows? |
| [10:11:00] | quitte: | qte is driving me crazy |
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| [10:25:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: Have you played with the OSD XML file at all? |
| [10:25:00] | Merlin83b: | Or do you know if there's a reference to these things? |
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| [10:26:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: never played with them – looked in there thoug h- it's not rocket science ;-) |
| [10:26:00] | Merlin83b: | Nah, not much to it. |
| [10:26:00] | juski: | bear in mind that some of the OSD is hard coded |
| [10:26:00] | Merlin83b: | I put Chromakey OSD on last night. Wow is that an improvement! |
| [10:26:00] | juski: | like the menu for a start ;-) |
| [10:27:00] | juski: | I can live without colour OSD for the time being |
| [10:27:00] | Merlin83b: | I didn't even pop the menu up – had to go out being the date it was :-) |
| [10:27:00] | juski: | going out for valentines.. feeling rich? ;-) |
| [10:27:00] | Merlin83b: | Thing is, when the parts of the OSD fade out it causes mild jerkiness. I was wondering if I can just remove the fadeaway attribute in the XML file. |
| [10:27:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh, don't think I'd get away with not going out :-) |
| [10:27:00] | Merlin83b: | Nice restaurant and cinema wasn't too bad. |
| [10:28:00] | juski: | well, mrs juski called yesterday Clinton Cards day, so I got away with cooking a meal |
| [10:28:00] | Merlin83b: | Hehe |
| [10:28:00] | juski: | I'd rather not have had to slave away for 2 hours in the kitchen but hey |
| [10:29:00] | ivor: | juski: was the meal edible? :P |
| [10:29:00] | juski: | I'm not saying my wife's cheap but... she can take or leave fancy resteraunts.. infact any eatery |
| [10:30:00] | Merlin83b: | I do enjoy a good restaurant, as does the other half so out we went :-) |
| [10:30:00] | Merlin83b: | Booked it weeks ago! |
| [10:30:00] | juski: | you'd have had to |
| [10:30:00] | juski: | also marks the start of my 9th year living here |
| [10:30:00] | Merlin83b: | I know – didn't do it in time last year so ended up at somewhere that's not great but they know us there so managed to squeeze us in :-) |
| [10:31:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm on 8.5 up here :-) |
| [10:31:00] | ivor: | then you can get overcharged for a set menu that's been poorly cooked by an overworked kitchen and served by surly staff who'd rather be out enjoying themselves and can't be bothered giving service. |
| [10:32:00] | juski: | last time we went out for valentines it was short notice, so ended up at cafe rouge – I didn't expect it to be up to much but it was |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Except we went early, and to a good restaurant. |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | There was one other couple in there. |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Cafe Rouge isn't too bad. |
| [10:32:00] | ivor: | Merlin83b: ah not too bad then. |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Nope, it was really nice :-) |
| [10:32:00] | Merlin83b: | Had to be early so we weren't rushed and could make the cinema showing :-) |
| [10:32:00] | ivor: | maison aux quatre seasons wins hands down. |
| [10:32:00] | ivor: | cinema... what did you see? |
| [10:33:00] | juski: | I read yesterday that manchester has the highest proportion of single people in the UK |
| [10:33:00] | juski: | 8-| |
| [10:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Chicken Little 3D :-) |
| [10:33:00] | juski: | oh LOL |
| [10:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh, that'd be all the students :-) |
| [10:33:00] | ivor: | oooh neat. |
| [10:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, all films should be in 3d. |
| [10:34:00] | juski: | the day you can drive to a carpark & your hover-car ends up in a vertical stack, that's when all films will be in 3d ;-) |
| [10:34:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh. |
| [10:34:00] | Merlin83b: | Since it was made for non 3d too, there was no attempt to force the 3d down your throat with things rushing at you etc, it was just there :-) |
| [10:36:00] | juski: | coolness |
| [10:37:00] | juski: | so er... no exploding helicopters zomming about? must've been a chick flick |
| [10:37:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, there were helicopters and aliens and stuff :-) |
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| [10:38:00] | Merlin83b: | Death rays and people (well, animals) being vaporised. |
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| [10:38:00] | juski: | ooo... I just saw the 'making of' thing when I was visiting my parents and thought "not on my list..." |
| [10:39:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh, depends if you like Pixar type stuff I guess. |
| [10:40:00] | juski: | well there's Pixar & then there's everyone else ;-) |
| [10:40:00] | Merlin83b: | True, this was just Disney and not the awesomeness that is Pixar. |
| [10:41:00] | Merlin83b: | But I enjoyed it nonetheless. Not sure if having split wine, champagne (free with the meal) and other drinks first helped :-) |
| [10:43:00] | Merlin83b: | "In 2006 at least 6 animation films will be releasing in 3D digital or 3D IMAX film presentation, as part of their distribution schedule." |
| [10:43:00] | Merlin83b: | Woo! |
| [10:45:00] | quitte: | how can i make mythtv compile with qte instead of qt when i have both installed? |
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| [10:57:00] | quitte: | ok. i give up |
| [10:58:00] | dennis-: | so, if i am about to get a new agp vga for my mythbox, which one should i get? gf5200? gf6x00? |
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| [11:03:00] | juski: | a good drink can always make a so-so film good ;-) |
| [11:03:00] | juski: | I got really bladderred & almost enjoyed "love actually" :-P |
| [11:04:00] | juski: | quitte: it's qt or bust I'm afraid |
| [11:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Wow. |
| [11:04:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, but we were doing a lot of laughing and I do remember it all. :-) |
| [11:05:00] | juski: | fell asleep during spiderman.. woke up & went to the bar.. that didn't improve it any either |
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| [11:06:00] | juski: | btw I can really recommend 'the gallery' experience... £10 for a real comfy seat, bar, free chocs, nachos, popcorn & soft drinks |
| [11:07:00] | quitte: | juski: i got it to link against qte already. but qte didnt install some dev tools. so i installed those from qt |
| [11:08:00] | quitte: | that didnt work unfortunately |
| [11:09:00] | quitte: | i guess the qte package is just plain broken. i'D need some other testing scenarios but i have no clue what woud be a small and simple qt program that i could use to fix the qte packages |
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| [11:11:00] | quitte: | qmake is in the wrong place obviously. but then moc is still missing :( |
| [11:12:00] | juski: | sounds like an obvious thing to ask, but why install qte in the 1st place? |
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| [11:24:00] | quitte: | juski: because it is needed for mythtv on directfb? |
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| [11:24:00] | juski: | ahh directfb (ugh) |
| [11:24:00] | Jasper: | good morning people |
| [11:24:00] | juski: | morning Jasper |
| [11:24:00] | Jasper: | Yo juski...when I looked this morning in mythbackend to my surprise...use mysql allready was in the depend section |
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| [11:25:00] | juski: | Jasper: hehe |
| [11:25:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [11:25:00] | juski: | so it's not that then |
| [11:25:00] | Jasper: | could it be a 'mythtv user not having enough rights' issue |
| [11:25:00] | juski: | could be |
| [11:25:00] | Jasper: | because it starts as mythtv |
| [11:26:00] | Hoxzer: | where could I get good howto for lirc configure? |
| [11:26:00] | juski: | Jasper: is mythtv user in the audio & video group? and the mysql one? |
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| [11:26:00] | quitte: | i give up for now. i got qte high on my priority list anyways. but i guess i should first get qte2 working for emdebian. |
| [11:27:00] | Jasper: | no juski |
| [11:27:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [11:27:00] | Jasper: | I was hoping mythtv installer did that by itself |
| [11:27:00] | Jasper: | :> |
| [11:28:00] | juski: | Jasper: make it so |
| [11:28:00] | Jasper: | allready did, it's rebooting |
| [11:29:00] | Jasper: | yup |
| [11:29:00] | Jasper: | it works now |
| [11:29:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [11:32:00] | scott: | hello my norweigen friend |
| [11:33:00] | scott: | do you loveeeeeeeeeeeee TV? |
| [11:33:00] | Jasper: | this might be a stupid question...but if I use the same frequency and finetuning in .19 it gives me a very bad quality? |
| [11:33:00] | Jasper: | heb nieuwe versie ero pstaan |
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| [11:34:00] | Jasper: | woops |
| [11:34:00] | Jasper: | this is weird? I use the same frequency? |
| [11:36:00] | quitte: | any debian user here that wants to help me package 0.19? |
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| [11:37:00] | Hoxzer: | hmm, where can I get good howto to configure lirc? |
| [11:38:00] | Hoxzer: | :D I dont even remeber the distro anymore :O |
| [11:39:00] | Hoxzer: | what were those two mythbox distros? |
| [11:39:00] | juski: | IMHO there are no good lirc howoto guides. it's another baptism of fire |
| [11:39:00] | Hoxzer: | k |
| [11:40:00] | Jasper: | hmm juski did anything happen with the frequency's in the new version? |
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| [11:41:00] | Hoxzer: | juski: can I configure it via ssh? |
| [11:41:00] | juski: | course you can |
| [11:41:00] | Hoxzer: | ok |
| [11:41:00] | juski: | Jasper: don't think so |
| [11:41:00] | Hoxzer: | can you tell me howto start configuring it? |
| [11:41:00] | juski: | Hoxzer: what remote & remote receiver do you have |
| [11:42:00] | Jasper: | I'll better do a new tvscan then |
| [11:42:00] | Jasper: | see if itimproves |
| [11:42:00] | Hoxzer: | juski: wait a sec |
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| [11:43:00] | Hoxzer: | remote: One for all URC- 7632 |
| [11:43:00] | Hoxzer: | and ir receiver was bought from zapways |
| [11:43:00] | Hoxzer: | serial port |
| [11:44:00] | juski: | okees |
| [11:44:00] | juski: | you first need to make sure that your serial ports aren't enabled in your kernel |
| [11:45:00] | juski: | that part is very important or you won't be able to load the lirc-serial module |
| [11:45:00] | Hoxzer: | maaan, you have to tell me howto :E |
| [11:46:00] | Jasper: | lol |
| [11:46:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [11:47:00] | Jasper: | 1 option is to go to /usr/src/linux |
| [11:47:00] | quitte__: | Hoxzer: it'S all in the myth howto |
| [11:47:00] | Jasper: | type make menuconfig |
| [11:47:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [11:47:00] | Jasper: | and see |
| [11:47:00] | juski: | if you don't know how to build your own kernel by now... |
| [11:47:00] | juski: | you're gonna have to learn :-) |
| [11:48:00] | juski: | come on then.. I'll open a terminal onto my machine & I'll go through it with you. I must be in a good mood again (!) |
| [11:48:00] | Jasper: | I hate making own kernel..always forget something...and have to do it like twice or 3 times |
| [11:48:00] | Agrajag-: | has the frontend freezing problem been fixed? I haven't really been following the discussion or svn commits |
| [11:48:00] | quitte__: | i think that distribution kernels are good in 90% of cases |
| [11:49:00] | juski: | yeh well they're no damn good if you need to use lirc-serial |
| [11:49:00] | Jasper: | well not mine :P had no sound or v4l |
| [11:49:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [11:49:00] | juski: | you get nothing in vanilla gentoo kernels – everything has to be done yourself |
| [11:49:00] | quitte__: | juski: in fact lirc can be built against kernel headers. and you can disable the uart with setserial – as it is described in the myth howto |
| [11:50:00] | quitte__: | gentoo is no distro |
| [11:50:00] | juski: | really? didn't used to be in the docs |
| [11:50:00] | juski: | otherwise I'd just have said RTFM ;-) |
| [11:51:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [11:53:00] | juski: | so okay – where in the docs does it say "setserial" ? |
| [11:53:00] | juski: | aha |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | that's good to know |
| [11:54:00] | quitte__: | juski ah you found it yourself. just used grep to proof it |
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| [11:54:00] | juski: | so Hoxzer: looky here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html |
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| [11:55:00] | Jasper: | gonna browse my old database for frequency's ... see if I wrote it down wrong.. |
| [11:56:00] | Jasper: | oh wait..I forgot....I deleted it.. |
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| [11:56:00] | Hoxzer: | how can I see if lirc is already installed? |
| [11:57:00] | Jasper: | maybe it wasn't smart to call it blaat.txt afterall |
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| [11:57:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: if it was debian i could tell you |
| [11:57:00] | Hoxzer: | it is |
| [11:58:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [11:58:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: dpkg --get-selections|grep lirc |
| [11:58:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: or just search and install |
| [11:58:00] | Jasper: | isn't it just like apt-get intsall lirc ? |
| [11:59:00] | quitte: | yes |
| [11:59:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: yeah, it is |
| [11:59:00] | juski: | I prefer to build it by hand |
| [11:59:00] | Jasper: | well sometimes.. |
| [11:59:00] | quitte: | juski: why? m-a is great |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | emerging it was fruitless, but that was before I learned to dig into ebuild files |
| [12:00:00] | quitte: | juski: i bet m-a prepare&&m-a a-i lirc just works |
| [12:00:00] | Jasper: | I stop prefering it when it takes like 5 hours.. |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | m-a ? wth? |
| [12:00:00] | quitte: | module-assistant. great debian tool |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | gentoo doesn't have that |
| [12:00:00] | juski: | :-P |
| [12:00:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: read the above. i bet you want to use module-assistant |
| [12:01:00] | Jasper: | it helps you install right? |
| [12:01:00] | quitte: | it helps you build and install modules for the running kernel |
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| [12:02:00] | Jasper: | I think emerge does a great job too :P |
| [12:02:00] | juski: | compiling yer own kernel & loading modules yourself aint so hard |
| [12:02:00] | juski: | scary the first couple of times, sure – but not hard |
| [12:03:00] | Jasper: | why scary...what can go wrong ? |
| [12:03:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [12:03:00] | ** Calroth uses genkernel with gentoo ** | |
| [12:03:00] | quitte: | juski: theres no reason to do it any more. unless you have a pretty uncommon system. like my via c3 for example |
| [12:03:00] | Calroth: | works for me |
| [12:03:00] | juski: | hell I'd not even been using linux for 2 days & I had to patch the kernel to get a DVB card working |
| [12:03:00] | Jasper: | Calroth how did you fix your tv cards then? |
| [12:03:00] | quitte: | or you are using gentoo of course :p |
| [12:03:00] | juski: | well no, maybe not _now_ there's no need |
| [12:03:00] | Calroth: | well, I also use mercurial source of v4l-dvb ;-) |
| [12:03:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [12:03:00] | Jasper: | and sound? |
| [12:04:00] | Jasper: | also? |
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| [12:04:00] | quitte: | juski: high modularization and initrd fixes future needs,too |
| [12:04:00] | Calroth: | my onboard sound is fine with the gentoo-sources |
| [12:04:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [12:04:00] | Jasper: | I needed to use alsa.. |
| [12:05:00] | Jasper: | hmm is firewire support in the genkernel? |
| [12:05:00] | Calroth: | i recommend the nightly source of video4linux (v4l-dvb) though... made my card tune much faster and cleared up a lot of defects |
| [12:05:00] | juski: | genkernel? ugh |
| [12:05:00] | Calroth: | genkernel builds everything possible in the kernel as a module, so i'd guess so |
| [12:06:00] | Jasper: | I still need to plug my firewire card and install it |
| [12:06:00] | Jasper: | don't feel like it, till I solved this frequency issue on myth |
| [12:08:00] | Jasper: | hmm what's the differnece between the gd and gd-external flag? |
| [12:09:00] | quitte: | wild guess – build with debugging symbols and uild with loadable debugging symbols? |
| [12:10:00] | juski: | Scott McNealy joking about taking Bill Gates on a hunting trip, Dick Cheney style... lol @ El Reg today |
| [12:13:00] | Jasper: | huh? |
| [12:13:00] | Jasper: | does the php package conflict with the mysql use flag ? |
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| [12:14:00] | ** Freman bangs head on bench ** | |
| [12:14:00] | Freman: | it keeps messing up and recording wrong chan )c: |
| [12:18:00] | Jasper: | can you get lirc running with every remote you want? |
| [12:20:00] | juski: | just about, if you use a non-tuner card receiver |
| [12:20:00] | juski: | lirc-serial is the most able I think |
| [12:21:00] | Jasper: | I got a rc-925 I wanna try with it |
| [12:22:00] | Jasper: | hmm have to find a place to buy a infrared receiver |
| [12:23:00] | Jasper: | juski did you also have the infrared via cat5 ? |
| [12:23:00] | Jasper: | or do you use a hf remote? |
| [12:23:00] | NHIwerx: | do I have to make clean after updating svn or does a new make do |
| [12:24:00] | juski: | Jasper: I change channels on my cable box with http |
| [12:26:00] | Jasper: | ok but then you always need your laptop at hand or something>? |
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| [12:26:00] | juski: | Jasper: far from it. I made a script to do it |
| [12:27:00] | Jasper: | how do you control it then? |
| [12:27:00] | Jasper: | with remote? |
| [12:27:00] | juski: | no – via http |
| [12:27:00] | ** Jasper is confused ** | |
| [12:27:00] | juski: | I don't watch livetv. ever |
| [12:27:00] | Jasper: | ah k |
| [12:27:00] | juski: | I work my frontend with a normal IR remote |
| [12:28:00] | juski: | tha backend changes channels on the cable box over a network connection |
| [12:28:00] | Jasper: | I see |
| [12:28:00] | Jasper: | juski do you think a usb ir adapter is any good? |
| [12:29:00] | juski: | Jasper: you might on;y be able to use the supplied remote with it |
| [12:29:00] | Jasper: | there's no remote supplied with it |
| [12:29:00] | ** Freman shrugs ** | |
| [12:29:00] | Freman: | I'll format the begger |
| [12:29:00] | Freman: | that'll fix it for sure |
| [12:30:00] | Freman: | I know 'format linux'? but seriously, before it was a myth tv, it was a pabx, before it was a pabx, it was a dvr, before it was a dvr it was a pabx, and before that... it was almost a mythtv |
| [12:30:00] | Jasper: | http://www.sweex.nl/product.asp?pid=134 <-- juski |
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| [12:31:00] | juski: | Jasper: that's IrDA, not IR remote |
| [12:31:00] | Freman: | I've got one you can have (c: |
| [12:31:00] | juski: | probably won't work |
| [12:31:00] | Freman: | funniest bit is... for $15 I can build 2 of them |
| [12:32:00] | juski: | I could buld 5 for that if I was so inclined |
| [12:32:00] | Freman: | this is $aud juski (c: |
| [12:33:00] | juski: | no idea how much that's worth so erm... |
| [12:33:00] | Freman: | well lets go on $8 for an ir receiver |
| [12:34:00] | Jasper: | what's difference between irda and ir ? |
| [12:34:00] | ** Freman checks price list ** | |
| [12:34:00] | juski: | eek – just seen the price of matrox cards.. why anyone would want to pay that much for a card where the video isn't accelerated in mythtv is beyond me |
| [12:34:00] | Freman: | okk... $6.50 |
| [12:34:00] | Freman: | I'm about to format my mythbox... fresh slate and all... |
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| [12:34:00] | Freman: | it's being funky |
| [12:35:00] | Freman: | like trying to record from channel 10 on the analog |
| [12:35:00] | Freman: | when there is no channel 10 on the analog |
| [12:35:00] | Freman: | and it keeps trying to load the bttv without a tuner even when I set one specificly |
| [12:36:00] | Freman: | hehe, never was much of one for upgrades anyway – so a fresh install of gentoo for a fresh install of myth 0.19 should be fun |
| [12:36:00] | Freman: | lets hope it doesn't take me 3 years to finish again |
| [12:36:00] | laga: | are you gonna start with a fresh database? |
| [12:36:00] | Freman: | yep |
| [12:36:00] | Freman: | completely fresh format |
| [12:37:00] | juski: | probably just wiping the DB will work wonders by itself |
| [12:37:00] | Freman: | yeh, but the system was 6 other things before it was a myth box |
| [12:37:00] | laga: | why did you do that? you're gonna lose the metadata for your recordings and the 'oldrecorded' table |
| [12:37:00] | juski: | erm.. reinitialising the DB I mean |
| [12:37:00] | Freman: | laga: I've watched everything I'm going to so, no major loss |
| [12:37:00] | Freman: | as long as it's finished by saturday (c: |
| [12:38:00] | ** juski recorded 7 shows yesterday ** | |
| [12:38:00] | Freman: | what's sad is it's going to be installed on a ati vga again... |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | keeping up with recordings is now a war of attrition |
| [12:38:00] | Freman: | I get house, oc, and surface |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | Freman: noooooooooooo don't torture yourself like that – no need |
| [12:39:00] | Jasper: | if only there was an electronics shop here, I could make it mysql :( |
| [12:39:00] | juski: | btw laga: employers came up with a (crappy) package |
| [12:39:00] | Jasper: | myself |
| [12:39:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [12:40:00] | juski: | it's better n' nothing, but still |
| [12:41:00] | Freman: | laga: I made this one... http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~tmccoy/index.php . . . mp;Itemid=26 |
| [12:41:00] | laga: | juski: what do they have in mind? |
| [12:41:00] | juski: | laga: mileage allowance for the 1st 2 years & new flexitime arrangements (permanent) |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | it' |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | it's better than not having a job though |
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| [12:44:00] | juski: | heh.. tv-cards.com mentioned the 0.19 release. "anyone here using linux?" |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | time to go endanger my health will my government still allows it |
| [12:46:00] | juski: | *while |
| [12:46:00] | tweak_st: | sage for linux sucks so bad |
| [12:46:00] | juski: | laga: did you see that? they voted to ban smoking! wtf do they think they are? talking about banning it in your own car next |
| [12:48:00] | laga: | juski: yep. |
| [12:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Now that is going too far |
| [12:48:00] | laga: | juski: ban smoking? where? your company? |
| [12:48:00] | laga: | tweak_st: sagetv? |
| [12:49:00] | tweak_st: | yeah |
| [12:49:00] | laga: | tweak_st: got a URL handy? |
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| [12:49:00] | tweak_st: | sagetv.com? |
| [12:49:00] | laga: | thanks |
| [12:50:00] | tweak_st: | juski, its illegal to commit suicide |
| [12:50:00] | tweak_st: | go figure. |
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| [12:51:00] | laga: | tweak_st: has anyone requested the sources yet? ;) |
| [12:52:00] | Jasper: | hm |
| [12:52:00] | tweak_st: | lol even if they did i can see what a mess it would be |
| [12:53:00] | tweak_st: | pre-packaged solutions dont work on linux, we got windows for that |
| [12:53:00] | Jasper: | ok I got a choice of like 10 ir infrared receiver modules...anyone got an idea what to look at for specs ? |
| [12:53:00] | Jasper: | to build one? |
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| [12:55:00] | tweak_st: | you planning to have mythtv control your other devices? (cable box for example) |
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| [12:57:00] | quitte: | wtf. seems configure -prefix is calculated relative |
| [12:57:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [12:58:00] | tweak_st: | then find one without a transmitter |
| [12:58:00] | Jasper: | I got choices of http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/test.html |
| [12:58:00] | danieldk_: | hi guys – could you explain why mythmovies does not appear in my frontend after a make install? |
| [12:58:00] | Jasper: | no I mean tweak_st like a build on module |
| [12:58:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [12:59:00] | danieldk_: | i'm running 0.19 |
| [12:59:00] | tweak_st: | ah you building one |
| [12:59:00] | quitte: | hmm. why does make install INSTALL_ROOT=$PWD/debian/mythtv result in it installing to $PWD/debian/mythtv/../../../bin lib etc? |
| [12:59:00] | quitte: | Jasper: oh that no wasnt for me |
| [13:01:00] | laga: | quitte: INSTALL_ROOT=${PWD}/debian/mythtv/ |
| [13:01:00] | laga: | quitte: or INSTALL_ROOT=${`pwd`}/debian/mythtv/ may<be – i suck at bash |
| [13:02:00] | quitte: | laga: $PWD is not the problem. i get the same results if i type $PWD manually |
| [13:02:00] | tweak_st: | yeah quitte, i had problems with changing the prefix, especially when i got everything to work, plugins broke |
| [13:03:00] | tweak_st: | so i ended up using default |
| [13:03:00] | quitte: | im pretty sure its those weird relative paths |
| [13:04:00] | Dibblah: | Why are you fiddling with INSTALL_ROOT, anyway? |
| [13:05:00] | Dibblah: | _everything_ is "calculated relative" by qmake. |
| [13:05:00] | Jasper: | hmm my mythweb seems to be 'non functioning' |
| [13:06:00] | Jasper: | Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace() in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 28 |
| [13:06:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [13:07:00] | tweak_st: | they need to replace mythweb with lynx |
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| [13:10:00] | quitte: | Dibblah: ugh. qmake is making this stupidness? i want to make it a debian package – and for that i have to install it to a temporary directory within $PWD |
| [13:10:00] | Jasper: | christ I compiled php without pcre I guess |
| [13:10:00] | quitte: | tweak_st: id prefer something graphical. links2 -g maybe |
| [13:11:00] | Freman: | is 0.19 safe for mysql 5 yet? |
| [13:11:00] | Freman: | (and just as importantly, is mythweb php5 safe?) |
| [13:11:00] | quitte: | Freman: marillats mythtv 0.18.1 has a pacth for php5 |
| [13:12:00] | quitte: | tweak_st: never mind. i confused mythweb and mythbrowser |
| [13:12:00] | tweak_st: | hmm seems i did as well |
| [13:13:00] | ** tweak_st hits self with a dry fish ** | |
| [13:13:00] | juski: | laga: uk govt has banned it in all public enclosed spaces |
| [13:13:00] | juski: | comes in, july 2007 |
| [13:13:00] | juski: | wonder if they've worked out how much revenue they'll lose yet :-) |
| [13:15:00] | tweak_st: | those pubs with tables outside gonna get a lot of business |
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| [13:18:00] | juski: | yeh.. and cause a lot of aggro to people wanting to be inside ;-) |
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| [13:25:00] | Nichotin_: | juski: the norwegian govt. did that too |
| [13:25:00] | Nichotin_: | except they waited till summer |
| [13:25:00] | danieldk_: | ok this sucks... mythphone, weather etc is in there but mythvideo is missing ...£@#%! |
| [13:25:00] | Nichotin_: | punishing smokers was just a bonus, the reason the law came, was to protect the staff at pubs etc. |
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| [13:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | They banned smoking in public areas (including restaurants and such) here almost 2 years ago |
| [13:27:00] | Freman: | yeh... same here |
| [13:27:00] | Freman: | no pubs any more either |
| [13:27:00] | Freman: | and no lighting up under 4 meters from a doorway |
| [13:27:00] | Ryushin: | I've been thinking about hdcp. I'm starting to get the real impression that we'll never see a solution for hdcp to run under linux. So no blueray, no cable cards. Not very happy about that. |
| [13:27:00] | ** Freman remmembers something about beaches also ** | |
| [13:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | And while I, a non smoker, and all for that, I would very angrily disagree with anyone trying to impose any limit on what people do in their own houses/cars. |
| [13:27:00] | tweak_st: | keep that measuring stick handy...=\ |
| [13:28:00] | juski: | time for my appraisal |
| [13:28:00] | Jasper: | hmm first the installer tells me to remove the mysql flag when intsalling php...and now it says it compiled without mysql so can't run...najs |
| [13:28:00] | tweak_st: | Ryushin i think it will die a terrible death first |
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| [13:29:00] | tweak_st: | not many people like the idea of somebody killing their hardware for ANY reason |
| [13:29:00] | Ryushin: | tweak_st: I don't think so. It's freaking integrated into everything now. I just don't know how it's going to work. Maybe by having a card with a binary only driver could allow it to be done. |
| [13:30:00] | Ryushin: | I'm secretly hoping china will release a blueray player without any protection at all. |
| [13:30:00] | Ryushin: | Still don't know of a way for cablecard's to work legally. |
| [13:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [13:31:00] | Kyler: | Why does cable matter now? Isn't satellite TV service adequate? |
| [13:31:00] | juski: | you can dance with the devil, or not use it... |
| [13:31:00] | Ryushin: | The industry just doesn't give a rats ass about linux. |
| [13:31:00] | juski: | (appraisal delayed _again_) |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | Ryushin: if anyone as okay with the idea of _some_ closed source, we could have it |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | juski: well, banning smoking in public places is good. |
| [13:32:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: Hmm.... Do the sat receivers have a firewire out that we can record from? |
| [13:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ryushin: No, they are just scared of it and the idea of people learning how they do what they do |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | juski: smoking sucks. :) |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | really? I thought it's supposed to be really cool. ah well |
| [13:32:00] | Kyler: | Ryushin: Yes, there are Firewire-recordable HD satellite receivers. |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | ;-) |
| [13:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I agree, but didn't he say they were wanting to ban it even in your own car ? |
| [13:32:00] | Ryushin: | juski: My nvidia driver is closed (not happy about that), but it works. |
| [13:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Now that is too far |
| [13:32:00] | Hoxzer: | does mythtv use third party software to view tv? |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i believe he was joking about that. |
| [13:33:00] | juski: | they're talking about banning it in cars next |
| [13:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Blimey, watching my frontend's terminal session when turning to LiveTV is entertaining! |
| [13:33:00] | ivor: | Ryushin: no it doesn't it's broken in recent versions. |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | juski: that was a few years ago :) |
| [13:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: You mean as the player ? |
| [13:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Errors aplenty! |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | juski: omfg? really? they suck as much as smoking does. |
| [13:33:00] | Hoxzer: | GreayFoxx: yeah |
| [13:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: I hate smoking, but that's just wrong |
| [13:33:00] | Ryushin: | ivor: True. :) But at least the old version works. |
| [13:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: No, it uses it's own internal player for livetv/recording playback |
| [13:33:00] | ivor: | Ryushin: and since noone can see the source, everyones got to sit like lemons waiting for NVidia to release a fix. |
| [13:33:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: Are there any for echostar? Also, how do we change the channel on those? |
| [13:34:00] | ivor: | Ryushin: closed source is bad. |
| [13:34:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i could imagine them prohiting smoking for the driver – handling a cigarette may be distracting |
| [13:34:00] | tweak_st: | nothing is stopping someone from reversing the nvidia driver... |
| [13:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bah, so is your radio, or talking to a mate in the car with you |
| [13:34:00] | Hoxzer: | I was just wondering if I could setup "volume_down" button as volume down in the player but when in menu it would work as "down" |
| [13:34:00] | Merlin83b: | I may well post a thing on this into trac. I think it explains the LiveTV takes ages to start issue. |
| [13:34:00] | Ryushin: | ivor: Oh, I'm a firm believer in open source. If there was a via unichromepro video card, I'd drop nvidia in a heart beat. |
| [13:35:00] | ivor: | well there's deltachrome... but I don't know anyone who's tried one. |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: I'm not sure how you would do that, I've never tried... but you can check out the new key editor in 0.19 |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: ever dropped your mate on your seat while they were bruning? ;) |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | s/bruning/burning/ |
| [13:36:00] | ivor: | heh perhaps I should take a look at the nvidia driver code. |
| [13:36:00] | tweak_st: | anybody have their 'watch recordings' little preview window have messed up colors? |
| [13:36:00] | tweak_st: | like smeared diagonally |
| [13:36:00] | Jasper: | hmm time to go to carwash.. |
| [13:37:00] | Ryushin: | ivor: Can deltachrome use the xvmc drivers? |
| [13:37:00] | ivor: | Ryushin: don't know. as I said noones tried. |
| [13:37:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I test is my lirc config working? |
| [13:37:00] | tweak_st: | lircd; irw; press buttons. |
| [13:38:00] | ivor: | I'm sure someone said it was basically a unichrome-pro, just need to find someone with a card to try. |
| [13:38:00] | Kyler: | Ryushin: http://169time.com/ Seems like I saw something about channel change commands over FireWire but I use IR to control my satellite receivers. |
| [13:39:00] | juski: | laga: can't say I remember the last time I 'smoked' a friend in the car :-P (or the 1st time, come to think of it) |
| [13:39:00] | Spida: | hi |
| [13:39:00] | Spida: | laga: I read somewhere in a forum that you worked with some german epg-grabbers... |
| [13:39:00] | Merlin83b: | lol |
| [13:39:00] | laga: | juski: blech |
| [13:39:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: Thanks, I've going to have seriously look into this. |
| [13:39:00] | laga: | Spida: maybe. not saying anything without a lawyer. |
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| [13:40:00] | Kyler: | Ryushin: I'd like to see someone reverse-engineer the AVX1 and turn it into a Linux driver. |
| [13:40:00] | Hoxzer: | what config wokrs as "select in mythtv menu? |
| [13:41:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: check keys.txt |
| [13:41:00] | Spida: | laga: aeh, aerger bekommen? |
| [13:41:00] | Hoxzer: | in where? |
| [13:41:00] | juski: | Hoxzer: or look in someone else's lircrc file |
| [13:41:00] | laga: | Spida: nö. just kidding ;). #mythtv-de, wenns deutsch sein muss :) |
| [13:42:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: mythtv/keys.txt |
| [13:42:00] | Hoxzer: | rgr |
| [13:42:00] | Spida: | laga: doessn't need to talk in german, but I need a grabber for a german epg |
| [13:42:00] | Kyler: | Last night I fixed saa7115.c (and sent the change to LKML). I also set mpg_buffers=64. I haven't received a buffer overrun yet (and I have four recordings going now). |
| [13:43:00] | laga: | Spida: get either tv_grab_de_tvtoday or stoffel's prisma grabber. |
| [13:44:00] | juski: | hell, if my boss doesn't hurry up soon the meeting room he's booked will be occupied |
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| [13:44:00] | Spida: | laga: where do I get them? all download-locations seem to be offline |
| [13:45:00] | Kyler: | Last night I also disabled NFS access to my TV recordings. I can imagine that playback is now slightly better. I still get a lot of pauses but I'm not getting timeouts when I first try to play programs. |
| [13:45:00] | laga: | Spida: my fixed packages for debian stuff can't be offline since i'm currently IRCing from that machine :) |
| [13:46:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: Are you using nfs over tcp or udp? I have a LOT of experience (both good and bad) with nfs. |
| [13:47:00] | Kyler: | Ryushin: I assume it's UDP. I just used the standard Debian kernel NFSd. |
| [13:48:00] | Kyler: | I generally prefer to avoid NFS. |
| [13:48:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: UDP is enabled by default. You have to export it using tcp. Do you have one system that has gigabit and the other one is 10/100? |
| [13:49:00] | Kyler: | Ha! Both systems I'm using now have GigE but I'm still using a 10/100 switch. |
| [13:50:00] | Kyler: | My next step, however, is to deploy a couple more of my frontends with wireless networks... |
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| [13:51:00] | Ryushin: | If if one system has gig, and the other has 100, then UDP is going to cause all sorts of issues. |
| [13:51:00] | Kyler: | They both should negotiate a 100Mbps connection with the switch. |
| [13:52:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: The real key to NFS is optimizing the exports and mounts. It should only take about an hour to do the research and set up the appropriate settings. |
| [13:52:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: Yea, then UDP shouldn't be your problem. But UDP in general, sucks. It's fast, but I've seen TCP run just as fast using NFS. |
| [13:52:00] | Kyler: | Is there a real advantage to using NFS instead of the other transport Myth uses? |
| [13:53:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I reload new lirc config? |
| [13:53:00] | Kyler: | I only switched to NFS because I seemed to need it for plugins (video and music). |
| [13:53:00] | rjune: | myth doesn't use any other transport for most things |
| [13:53:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: Yea, in fact this was just on the development list. Someone has having issues streaming between the backends and frontends. NFS was much faster. |
| [13:54:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: I actually use smbfs instead of nfs for my music and video. |
| [13:54:00] | Spida: | laga: hm, I am not on debian... |
| [13:54:00] | Kyler: | Hmmm...o.k., maybe I'll change back. |
| [13:54:00] | Spida: | laga: do you have a .tar.gz? |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | Spida: nope. you might want to get a cvs checkout then |
| [13:55:00] | Spida: | yeah. |
| [13:55:00] | Spida: | where? |
| [13:55:00] | Merlin83b: | Ooh, seen 8947/8948, juski? |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | Spida: should be described on http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/xmltv/ |
| [13:56:00] | rjune: | why smbfs? |
| [13:56:00] | Kyler: | Ryushin: Is the advantage of NFS (with UDP, I assume) just the elimination of some overhead? Is timing actually better? Can the transport handle dropped data gracefully? |
| [13:59:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: UDP won't handle dropped data very well. NFS over TCP will. From what I understand with Myth, it likes to pull the data off using a block like device. |
| [14:00:00] | Kyler: | UDP handles dropped data just fine. It's Myth that would have to deal with never getting the data. Perhaps that's o.k. though. |
| [14:00:00] | Ryushin: | NFS v3 is actaully very fast. I've just gotten in the habit now of always using TCP because of the problems I've had in the past. Also settings your buffers to 32168 (I think) improves performance because the packets are larger. |
| [14:00:00] | Ryushin: | Well UDP doesn't handle congestion very well. TCP won't have a problem with congestion. |
| [14:01:00] | Kyler: | UDP deals with congestion by dropping packets. TCP...well, there's ECN, I suppose. Are you using it? |
| [14:02:00] | Kyler: | (I should have said "UDP *misses* packets" under congestion pressure. It's not so much a function of the protocol.) |
| [14:03:00] | rjune: | actually, I think it is. IIRC UDP doesn't allow for any sort of retransmission like TCP |
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| [14:03:00] | rjune: | it just sends and doesn't care if the data got to where it's going |
| [14:03:00] | Ryushin: | TCP will slow it's rate down if it encounters congestion. From what I understand, UDP wont. |
| [14:04:00] | Kyler: | I'm trying to determine if that's an advantage to Myth. |
| [14:04:00] | Ryushin: | Try NFS over TCP with the larger buffers, you might be pleasently surprised. |
| [14:04:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: And there is a whole thing about hard mounts and soft mounts. |
| [14:05:00] | Hoxzer: | what was that program to control nvidia tv-chip? |
| [14:05:00] | Kyler: | If I'm pushing 5Mbps video, it really doesn't help to spend a bunch of bandwidth on retranmissions and error congestion control. I need the video when it's ready to be seen or not at all. |
| [14:07:00] | Kyler: | BTW, I'm noticing clearly better response when selecting a MythTV program to play now that I'm not using NFS. With NFS I'd select a program and wait several seconds. Often it would timeout and I'd have to reselect it (after telling Myth not to delete it). Now I'm getting playback after just a couple seconds or so. |
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| [14:09:00] | Ryushin: | Okay. Well, I'm using smbfs for my mp3's and video files. Linux to Linux. Microsoft's implimenation of smbfs isn't any good. :) |
| [14:09:00] | Kyler: | I suspect that some of my latency problems might be caused by software RAID5. I'm considering turning off parity to see if it's substantially better. |
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| [14:10:00] | Ryushin: | Kyler: I have my recordings on RAID 0. But all my mp3's and video's are on RAID 1 and 5. Linux's RAID 5 is actually very fast. |
| [14:10:00] | Kyler: | Ryushin: Did you consider CIFS? Incidentally, I'm using FUSE/SSHFS a lot recently and I'm quite happy with it. I'd probably have to play with different ciphers to keep it reasonable on my Mini-ITX though. |
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| [14:11:00] | Kyler: | Ryushin: I saw something recently that said RAID5 is substantially slower than non-parity RAIDs. |
| [14:12:00] | DGnome: | yup |
| [14:12:00] | DGnome: | but raid5 is pure love ;) |
| [14:12:00] | Ryushin: | I'll have to play with FUSE/SSHFS. I've been waiting for an encypted network file system. I only use cifs when I have to talk to win2003. |
| [14:12:00] | Kyler: | When I was getting buffer overruns I wondered if I might be experiencing drive (thermal) recalibrations. With four drives, I suppose that would happen a lot. |
| [14:13:00] | Kyler: | As I recall, SMBFS is no longer maintained. CIFS does all it does and more (and is maintained). It supports stuff like symlinks (which is important to me). |
| [14:15:00] | Ryushin: | Hmmm.... Maybe it's time to dump smbfs then. I'll have to do some more research. |
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| [14:16:00] | Ryushin: | I was seeing 45 MB/s using RAID 5 and large files on my 200 GB SATA drives. |
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| [14:16:00] | Kyler: | I'm really enjoying Myth this morning! It hasn't been this solid in many months. I do still notice delays if, for example, I switch into edit mode and then back to playback. But the next time I do it there's no delay. |
| [14:18:00] | Ryushin: | I'm going to have to play with chromakey OSD again to see if it looks good for HD and NTSC. HD was perfect, NTSC was completely corrupted. |
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| [14:20:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I setup nvtv tv-out settings to load at startup? |
| [14:20:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: cross-posting is bad for your karma |
| [14:21:00] | Hoxzer: | :( I know but that way I will most likely get help |
| [14:21:00] | Kyler: | Just a little off-topic...I get a ton of these messages "kernel: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!" How do I tell the kernel to stop probing my CD drive? Or at least keep the messages out of syslog? (I'm not sure what the level is.) |
| [14:22:00] | Kyler: | (The CD checks are about two per second.) |
| [14:22:00] | laga: | Kyler: did you enable the media monitoring in mythtv? or probably you're running automount? |
| [14:23:00] | Kyler: | Hmmm...this is the backend and I don't recall enabling media monitoring but maybe it snuck in there. Is that set in mythtv-setup? |
| [14:23:00] | laga: | not sure, sorry. |
| [14:23:00] | Kyler: | I'd like to have media monitoring on my frontend (which has its own DVD drive) but not the backend. |
| [14:24:00] | Kyler: | Actually...I could survive without media monitoring. I can handle selecting it manually (and so can my wife). I thought it would be kinda cool to have DVDs start automatically (especially with my spiffy slot-loading drive). |
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| [14:25:00] | laga: | Kyler: i never got it to work here :/ well, i just enabled it and waited for things to happen, do you know if there's additionaly stuff that has to be done? |
| [14:25:00] | Jasper: | gahhh |
| [14:26:00] | Jasper: | I get Please install the MySQL libraries for PHP. on mythweb |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | Jasper |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | oops... Jasper: werent you upgrading from .18 with emerge |
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| [14:27:00] | Jasper: | yea I was |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | how'd it go.. |
| [14:27:00] | Jasper: | mwah mwah |
| [14:27:00] | Kyler: | laga: I never did anything with it either. |
| [14:27:00] | sphing: | i'm doing it this weekend |
| [14:27:00] | Jasper: | fine except for little things |
| [14:28:00] | Jasper: | the userrights are a bit f*cked up |
| [14:28:00] | sphing: | lovely |
| [14:28:00] | Jasper: | I couldn't watch livetv.....so I figured it was the db...deleted it...made it completely again...rebooted and I got the same error after 3 hours |
| [14:28:00] | sphing: | was it a myth crash or it just wasnt working? |
| [14:28:00] | Jasper: | came to the conclusion that the mythbackend was running as mythtv user.. |
| [14:29:00] | Jasper: | mythtv user wasn't in audio/video/mysql group |
| [14:29:00] | Jasper: | that's why it gave me the error.. |
| [14:30:00] | sphing: | Jasper: you must have been starting manually no? |
| [14:30:00] | Jasper: | omg, just went through the carwash..forgot to put the gear back...it started driving by itself :P they had to push the emergency stop..lovely.. |
| [14:30:00] | Jasper: | well sphing when I started it manually everything works..just not when it started at boot..since that's a different user then |
| [14:30:00] | sphing: | where are you? |
| [14:30:00] | Jasper: | netherlands |
| [14:31:00] | sphing: | no.. where are you that you're at the carwash? |
| [14:31:00] | Jasper: | that was like 10 mins ago |
| [14:31:00] | Jasper: | allready back |
| [14:31:00] | sphing: | o haha.. |
| [14:31:00] | Jasper: | they looked a bit angry though |
| [14:31:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:31:00] | sphing: | i figured boot time was init scripts |
| [14:32:00] | Jasper: | sphing do you have mythweb running atm? |
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| [14:34:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I set nvtv settings to load at startup? |
| [14:35:00] | Jasper: | what do you mean startup? |
| [14:35:00] | Jasper: | on startx? |
| [14:35:00] | sphing: | Jasper: i dont... |
| [14:36:00] | Jasper: | damn |
| [14:36:00] | Jasper: | I can't get it working on gentoo |
| [14:36:00] | sphing: | whats the error |
| [14:36:00] | Jasper: | Hoxzer are you still here ? |
| [14:36:00] | Jasper: | hello |
| [14:36:00] | Jasper: | Please install the MySQL libraries for PHP. |
| [14:37:00] | Jasper: | and I emerged with the mysql use flag.. |
| [14:37:00] | sphing: | make a page that has this : <? phpinfo() ?> |
| [14:37:00] | sphing: | and see what it says about mysql |
| [14:37:00] | Jasper: | well |
| [14:37:00] | Jasper: | I tried |
| [14:37:00] | Jasper: | that |
| [14:37:00] | Jasper: | it says nothing about mysq |
| [14:37:00] | Jasper: | mysql |
| [14:37:00] | Jasper: | just about mysqli |
| [14:37:00] | sphing: | then you dont have mysql |
| [14:38:00] | Jasper: | well yeah that's what I figured...but I don't know how to get it |
| [14:38:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [14:38:00] | Hoxzer: | Jasper: yeah |
| [14:38:00] | Hoxzer: | yeah, I mean that I dont need to reset my nvidia settings when I restart my box |
| [14:38:00] | Hoxzer: | so yes, startx |
| [14:39:00] | Jasper: | ok Hoxzer |
| [14:39:00] | Jasper: | add nvtv to your startup script |
| [14:40:00] | Jasper: | rc.update add nvtvd default |
| [14:40:00] | Jasper: | or something |
| [14:40:00] | Hoxzer: | ok |
| [14:40:00] | Hoxzer: | so whats the command? |
| [14:40:00] | Jasper: | I just told you? |
| [14:40:00] | Hoxzer: | nvtv? |
| [14:40:00] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [14:40:00] | Jasper: | did you add it to your startup? |
| [14:40:00] | Jasper: | nvtvd |
| [14:40:00] | Jasper: | I believe |
| [14:40:00] | Hoxzer: | ok .... |
| [14:42:00] | Jasper: | Hoxzer you did that? |
| [14:43:00] | Hoxzer: | :D I can't remeber where the startup script was |
| [14:43:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [14:43:00] | Jasper: | what do you mean? |
| [14:43:00] | Jasper: | just type |
| [14:44:00] | Jasper: | rc-update add nvtvd default |
| [14:44:00] | Jasper: | oh btw Hoxzer what card do you have? |
| [14:44:00] | Hoxzer: | you mean videocard? |
| [14:44:00] | Hoxzer: | mx400 (lol) |
| [14:44:00] | Jasper: | yes |
| [14:44:00] | Jasper: | hmm does that need nvtv then? |
| [14:45:00] | Hoxzer: | yes |
| [14:45:00] | Jasper: | why? |
| [14:45:00] | Hoxzer: | only geforce 4 is supported |
| [14:45:00] | Hoxzer: | at least that is what I heard from nvidia staff |
| [14:45:00] | Jasper: | hmm is that so? |
| [14:45:00] | Jasper: | I think not |
| [14:45:00] | Jasper: | go to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [14:45:00] | Hoxzer: | I already tried to edt it |
| [14:45:00] | Hoxzer: | tv overscan doesn't work |
| [14:46:00] | Jasper: | ah that's right |
| [14:46:00] | Jasper: | that's the only thing that doesn't work |
| [14:46:00] | Hoxzer: | yeah |
| [14:46:00] | Hoxzer: | thats why I want to use nvtv |
| [14:46:00] | Jasper: | so Hoxzer you added nvtv to rc-update? |
| [14:46:00] | Hoxzer: | wait a sec |
| [14:46:00] | Hoxzer: | I dont know where it is |
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| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | Hoxzer you can just type |
| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | rc-update add nvtvd default |
| [14:47:00] | Jasper: | should work |
| [14:48:00] | Hoxzer: | root@mythtv:/home/mythtv# rc-update add nvtvd default |
| [14:48:00] | Hoxzer: | -bash: rc-update: command not found |
| [14:50:00] | Hoxzer: | I found it |
| [14:50:00] | Jasper: | ah you dont run gentoo, sorry |
| [14:50:00] | Freman: | doh |
| [14:50:00] | Freman: | can't build a new mythtv box on my fast amd64 x2 then just copy it across )c: |
| [14:51:00] | Jasper: | no |
| [14:51:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [14:51:00] | Freman: | it won't build a kernel for the athlon )c: |
| [14:51:00] | Hoxzer: | well I added it to startup script (hopefully to right place) |
| [14:51:00] | Freman: | I can emerge --fetchonly tho (c: |
| [14:51:00] | Freman: | that'll save me some time |
| [14:51:00] | Jasper: | ok Hoxzer do you have a .xinitrc |
| [14:51:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [14:53:00] | Jasper: | damn, you're not very fast responding :P |
| [14:53:00] | Hoxzer: | wait a second |
| [14:54:00] | Hoxzer: | jasper: I have .fluxbox |
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| [14:55:00] | Jasper: | hmm k |
| [14:55:00] | Hoxzer: | and at least locate didn't find .xinitrc |
| [14:55:00] | Jasper: | you need to add a line |
| [14:55:00] | Jasper: | I don't know fluxbox |
| [14:55:00] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [14:55:00] | Jasper: | but in your init script you need to add |
| [14:55:00] | Jasper: | nvtv -t -r 800,600 -s Large |
| [14:55:00] | Jasper: | or something like that |
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| [14:56:00] | juski: | hmm that went well :-) |
| [14:56:00] | Jasper: | and maybe --set Dualview:0 |
| [14:56:00] | Jasper: | what went well juski ? |
| [14:57:00] | juski: | performance review |
| [14:57:00] | Jasper: | :p tricksy |
| [14:57:00] | Hoxzer: | jasper: I think it's like [startup] {command you want run on startup} |
| [14:57:00] | juski: | I exceed :-) |
| [14:57:00] | Jasper: | nice |
| [14:57:00] | Merlin83b: | Will they give you more money, juski? |
| [14:57:00] | juski: | now to shop for a SATA and a USB2 analyser |
| [14:57:00] | Jasper: | he's allowed to stay :P |
| [14:58:00] | Hoxzer: | I have a init file in .fluxbox |
| [14:58:00] | Hoxzer: | you mean that? |
| [14:58:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: they have a track record of doing that :) |
| [14:58:00] | Jasper: | juski do you know how fluxbox works? |
| [14:58:00] | Merlin83b: | More money? Awesome. |
| [14:58:00] | Merlin83b: | Ooh, seen 8947/8948, juski? |
| [14:58:00] | Merlin83b: | (from earlier) |
| [14:58:00] | Jasper: | Hoxzer wants to add nvtv -t -r 800,600 -s Large to his startup script |
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| [14:58:00] | Jasper: | he doesn't know how to do it.. |
| [14:58:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: no – will look in a bit |
| [14:58:00] | Merlin83b: | DVB radio |
| [14:58:00] | juski: | and as for fluxbox – no idea I'm afraid |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | sorry Hoxzer ask in the fluxbox channel (if there is one) how to put something in startup script |
| [14:59:00] | juski: | what's wrong with just using .xinitrc anyway? |
| [14:59:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: wait a second. |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | dunno |
| [14:59:00] | Jasper: | he doesn't have one he says and can't use |
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| [15:00:00] | Jasper: | oh my god...I'm going crazy with mythweb |
| [15:00:00] | quitte: | properly setup nvidia drivers dont need nvtv anyways |
| [15:00:00] | Jasper: | yeah they do quitte |
| [15:00:00] | Jasper: | for tv-out overscan.. |
| [15:00:00] | juski: | indeed they do |
| [15:01:00] | juski: | nvtv comes in very handy for those people with GF2 cards |
| [15:01:00] | quitte: | im pretty sure i read somewhere – i even think myth docs – that it now works |
| [15:01:00] | juski: | who don't have a TV-Overscan option in their xorg.conf |
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| [15:02:00] | quitte: | juski: and why not just add that option? |
| [15:02:00] | juski: | because it won't work because the driver doesn't support it |
| [15:02:00] | juski: | ;-) |
| [15:02:00] | quitte: | ah |
| [15:02:00] | Jasper: | quitte it's only for geforce4 the overscan |
| [15:02:00] | juski: | gf4 the the likes are a different matter though |
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| [15:03:00] | Jasper: | weee |
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| [15:03:00] | Jasper: | I got mysql support now with php |
| [15:03:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: debian has a nvtvd. i guess you have to configure that |
| [15:03:00] | juski: | even then, nvidia-settings is good to have |
| [15:03:00] | Jasper: | next error is: The database environment variables are not correctly set in the included .htaccess file. |
| [15:03:00] | juski: | Jasper: peasy |
| [15:03:00] | juski: | edit the .htaccess file & put your DB connection details in there |
| [15:03:00] | juski: | come on – it's telling you what's wrong ;-) |
| [15:03:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [15:04:00] | Jasper: | I'm just to lazy |
| [15:04:00] | dev-: | the install windows media center ;/ |
| [15:04:00] | dev-: | then |
| [15:04:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:05:00] | juski: | lynx |
| [15:05:00] | juski: | oops |
| [15:05:00] | Ferrety: | umm, if the .htaccess is ok, you might need to fix your apache or php |
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| [15:07:00] | Jasper: | hmm juski they look ok to me...the settings |
| [15:08:00] | Ferrety: | you are using gentoo? |
| [15:08:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [15:08:00] | Ferrety: | if so, you might need to change apache conf as I think thats been changed since last mythweb release |
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| [15:09:00] | Kabutor: | main.cpp:126: error: `addCurrentLocation' undeclared (first use this function) |
| [15:09:00] | Kabutor: | error while comp. mythgame, any suggestion? (myth 0.19 |
| [15:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Fresh source download or did oyu just update existing svn source ? |
| [15:10:00] | Kabutor: | I have svn installed Im compiling fresh one |
| [15:10:00] | Kabutor: | did I have to install first mythtv? |
| [15:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Generally yes |
| [15:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Since you will be compiling against the installed libraries and include files |
| [15:11:00] | Jasper: | hmm....htaccess is correct with db settings |
| [15:11:00] | Kabutor: | Oh, thx.. I wanted to make the move as smooth as possible but I see I have to install first mythtv |
| [15:11:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: 8947/48 – ticket numbers or revisions? |
| [15:11:00] | Ferrety: | Jasper: I can't check just now, but I had to change apache allowoverdire on apache confs to make apache see the .htaccess file |
| [15:11:00] | Jasper: | so the problem must be somewhere else..but where...I checked httpd.conf nothing looks wrong to me.. |
| [15:11:00] | Merlin83b: | Revisions |
| [15:12:00] | juski: | ah |
| [15:12:00] | Jasper: | hmm ok hang on |
| [15:12:00] | Ferrety: | Or I think I had to change, don't quite recall at the moment |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: I'm gonna need some hints – vnc connection is mega slow today |
| [15:13:00] | cosmo-: | i just set up mythweb.. remember to set allowoverride in httpd.conf! |
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| [15:13:00] | Jasper: | hmm what should I change it to ferrety any idea? |
| [15:13:00] | Merlin83b: | juski: It's someone putting DVB radio into mythtv, including in the scanner. I recall you talking about it so though you might want to take a peek. |
| [15:14:00] | juski: | Merlin83b: I did more than take a peek |
| [15:14:00] | juski: | I have it working on my 'bongo box |
| [15:14:00] | Ferrety: | my home network seems to be down, can't check them |
| [15:14:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh, fair enough :-) |
| [15:14:00] | Ferrety: | you could unpack the mythweb package, there is readme related on the apahce/php config |
| [15:14:00] | Ferrety: | (ebuild /usr/portage/.../mythweb.ebuild unpack) |
| [15:14:00] | ** juski hopes 0.19 will patch cleanly for the EIT fix & DVB radio additions ** | |
| [15:15:00] | Ferrety: | (where the /usr/..mythweb.ebuild is the ebuild for you mythweb) |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | thanks anyway, Merlin83b ;-) |
| [15:17:00] | Ferrety: | but all on allowoverride allows all, so that could be ok (if you are not paranoid) |
| [15:17:00] | Jasper: | hehe |
| [15:17:00] | sphery: | /server irc.freenode.net |
| [15:17:00] | sphery: | oops |
| [15:18:00] | juski: | irssi rules |
| [15:19:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [15:20:00] | Jasper: | Ferrety should I add a dir in httpd.conf for mythweb or? |
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| [15:24:00] | Ferrety: | probably |
| [15:25:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I check what program is using my tv-card? |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | I don't get this shit |
| [15:25:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:27:00] | Jasper: | weee |
| [15:27:00] | Jasper: | got it too work |
| [15:27:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [15:29:00] | Jasper: | this is great now I can finetune a lot faster :P |
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| [15:29:00] | Ferrety: | was it the allowoverride? |
| [15:29:00] | Hoxzer: | "failed to open card" |
| [15:30:00] | Hoxzer: | :D is it just wonderful? |
| [15:31:00] | Hoxzer: | and I can't kill mythbackend |
| [15:31:00] | juski: | Hoxzer: how come you can't stop mythbackend? |
| [15:31:00] | Hoxzer: | I write "killall mythbackend" but it does nonthing |
| [15:31:00] | juski: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend zap works for me when the chips are down |
| [15:31:00] | Jasper: | yeah ferrety I had to add a dir with mythweb to allowoverride all |
| [15:31:00] | johnp_: | juski: it does patch reasonably. |
| [15:32:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop? |
| [15:32:00] | Hoxzer: | :D I dont really understand last time I restarted mythbox it worked fine |
| [15:32:00] | Ferrety: | jeah, I recall I had the same, probably should make bug-report |
| [15:32:00] | juski: | johnp_: reasonably? that doesn't sound like 'perfectly' ;-) |
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| [15:32:00] | Ferrety: | ..to gentoo |
| [15:32:00] | eka: | hi all |
| [15:32:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: you used debs for marillat? |
| [15:32:00] | juski: | if it's a small fiddle I can probably handle it though |
| [15:32:00] | johnp_: | a few offset lines in tv_rec.cpp I seem to remember |
| [15:32:00] | johnp_: | not too bad |
| [15:33:00] | juski: | johnp_: thanks for the heads-up :-) |
| [15:34:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: I haven't used any debs lately |
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| [15:34:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: you are not the one that uses debian? |
| [15:36:00] | eka: | i get this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86vm |
| [15:36:00] | eka: | compiling |
| [15:36:00] | Jasper: | yes, I totaly got it too work now....so sweet |
| [15:36:00] | eka: | my distro uses xorg |
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| [15:37:00] | quitte: | eka: your distro is which? |
| [15:37:00] | eka: | quitte : debian |
| [15:37:00] | quitte: | eka installed x-dev? |
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| [15:38:00] | eka: | quitte : i followed the installation guide and didnt mention that, i'l check |
| [15:38:00] | eka: | quitte : is there |
| [15:38:00] | quitte: | eka: do you actually need 0.19? otherwise id recommend you just use marillats debs |
| [15:39:00] | eka: | quitte : whats that? |
| [15:39:00] | quitte: | eka etch? |
| [15:39:00] | eka: | quitte : yes |
| [15:40:00] | quitte: | eka dpkg should have told you what to do. then just apt-get install mythtv |
| [15:40:00] | eka: | quitte : so i can get mythtv as debian pkg? nice |
| [15:40:00] | quitte: | eka im preparing 0.19 debs right now. but marillat should do that soon,too |
| [15:40:00] | quitte: | and he usually does a better job than i do |
| [15:41:00] | eka: | quitte : which version is that? |
| [15:41:00] | quitte: | 0.18.1 |
| [15:42:00] | quitte: | i didnt see a difference so far |
| [15:42:00] | eka: | quitte : no prob for me... so i look for the mythtv package? |
| [15:42:00] | quitte: | yes. or just install it |
| [15:43:00] | eka: | quitte : ok |
| [15:43:00] | quitte: | plugins are in sepaarate packages so searching is a good idea,too |
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| [15:44:00] | eka: | quitte : i need info on how to do a distro with mythtv like booting with mythtv as a front end where can i get info about that? |
| [15:44:00] | quitte: | eka: i added a line to inittab |
| [15:44:00] | Hoxzer: | NO GUYS |
| [15:45:00] | Hoxzer: | I know what I did |
| [15:45:00] | Hoxzer: | :D I messed up kernel |
| [15:45:00] | quitte: | but the package recommends using gdm and make it auto login |
| [15:45:00] | eka: | quitte : where can i read about that? |
| [15:46:00] | quitte: | itll be shown to you on install |
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| [15:47:00] | quitte: | eka dont forget to set a mysql root passwor after mysql-server installed. |
| [15:47:00] | quitte: | eka: mysqladmin -u root password newpassword |
| [15:47:00] | eka: | quitte : thx |
| [15:48:00] | johnp_: | Anyone seen the FE hitting 100% and freezing you out ? :( |
| [15:48:00] | johnp_: | on the good side it's my dev box on the bad side it's my dev box!! |
| [15:49:00] | eka: | quitte : so all the info on how to build a distro is in there? |
| [15:49:00] | eka: | quitte : is there also any good site to get info about |
| [15:49:00] | quitte: | no. but you dont want to build a distro anyways |
| [15:50:00] | dev-: | maybe he wants ekaos :P |
| [15:51:00] | eka: | quitte : why not? maybe based on distro |
| [15:51:00] | Hoxzer: | I am really pissed off now |
| [15:51:00] | Hoxzer: | I have take like 2 hours to configure this with my noob skills |
| [15:51:00] | ** dev- pisses on ** | |
| [15:51:00] | dev-: | all fixed. |
| [15:51:00] | Hoxzer: | I dont even rember my tv-card name |
| [15:51:00] | eka: | quitte : like a debian based but with the only needed for mythtv |
| [15:52:00] | juski: | Hoxzer: you've got some DVB tuner or other. I remember that |
| [15:52:00] | juski: | DVB-C |
| [15:52:00] | dev-: | if thats all you want to do, you dont have to go make your own distro to do that... |
| [15:52:00] | dev-: | but if you're asking that question, i think its over your head :P |
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| [15:52:00] | Hoxzer: | juski: yeah |
| [15:52:00] | quitte: | eka: you obviously have no clue about what building a distro involves. you seem to not even know init. and you really think you want to make a distro? for what reason anyways? you can just install it. noone needs a new debian. |
| [15:53:00] | eka: | dev-: you'r right not my own distro... but based on debian |
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| [15:53:00] | Hoxzer: | I remeber it was DVB-c, but now that I messed up my kernel (damn me) I have to know what tv-chip it uses |
| [15:53:00] | eka: | quitte : i can learn |
| [15:53:00] | Delemas: | Anyone had much luck building mythtv in a setarch i386 chroot on a x86_64 CPU? It keeps insisting on using qt x86_64 which isn't even in the chroot.... |
| [15:53:00] | quitte: | eka: but not by making a distro. start with learning bash |
| [15:53:00] | Delemas: | I used to build it fine in the 0.18.x days... |
| [15:53:00] | eka: | quitte : i've ever needed, but now i can try to learn it |
| [15:54:00] | dev-: | then go learn it |
| [15:54:00] | dev-: | kthnxbye! |
| [15:54:00] | dev-: | :) |
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| [15:54:00] | Hoxzer: | it was philips I remember that |
| [15:54:00] | Hoxzer: | and card was pinacle |
| [15:55:00] | juski: | the knack with linux is to be able to fix stuff without breaking anything ;-) |
| [15:55:00] | Hoxzer: | terratec it was |
| [15:55:00] | Hoxzer: | 1200 dvb-c |
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| [15:57:00] | Hoxzer: | do you guys know where could I check the tv-chip? |
| [15:57:00] | bazil: | maby the dumbest question today .... but . when settin up myth .. were doest myth put the rootdir for the webadmin page ? |
| [15:57:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: why do you think you need to compile your own kernel when the original worked? |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | webadmin? |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | what webadmin? |
| [15:58:00] | bazil: | hmm . wrong word |
| [15:58:00] | dev-: | Hoxzer: on the card itself, or lspci might help |
| [15:58:00] | bazil: | the page were i can start and stop recordings |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | oh, mythweb? |
| [15:58:00] | bazil: | ya |
| [15:58:00] | bazil: | thats it |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | I think that's dependant on how you install it |
| [15:59:00] | bazil: | oki ... |
| [15:59:00] | dev-: | its what you specified during the install .sh heh |
| [15:59:00] | quitte: | juski: for debian users great parts of not breaking stuff involves letting the tools do things for you. recommending to build a kernel for something trivial as getting lirc to work is a bad idea imho |
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| [16:00:00] | juski: | well I didn't know about the setserial command |
| [16:00:00] | juski: | and a howto guide I read once said not to build the serial ports into the kernel |
| [16:00:00] | bazil: | was hoping that i could use that install for running different sitets on same server .. for example if i connect to the webmyth with http://192.168.0.6/newpage |
| [16:00:00] | juski: | something which usually needs to be done retroactively |
| [16:00:00] | quitte: | juski: no problem. it's Hoxzers fault now that he ignores me |
| [16:00:00] | juski: | heh |
| [16:00:00] | dev-: | thats apache, nothing to do with mythtv |
| [16:01:00] | Hoxzer: | LOL |
| [16:01:00] | Hoxzer: | I can't find my tv-chip from the list |
| [16:01:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [16:01:00] | bazil: | oh .. but did mythweb change stuff in apache then ? .. what happens if i set a virtual dir for my newpage |
| [16:01:00] | Hoxzer: | I lost my mind now |
| [16:01:00] | juski: | I'm glad I found out about the setserial command now though – wasn't looking fwd to recompiling my umbongo kernel anyway |
| [16:01:00] | bazil: | in httpd.conf |
| [16:02:00] | Hoxzer: | I found it.... |
| [16:02:00] | Hoxzer: | uuuh :D |
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| [16:02:00] | juski: | drama queen :-P |
| [16:02:00] | quitte: | haha |
| [16:02:00] | Hoxzer: | no I didn't |
| [16:02:00] | Octane: | i know fedora was the favorite among good distros that made iteasy to instal myth... is there another? |
| [16:02:00] | Hoxzer: | I'm afraid I have to reinstall my system for third time |
| [16:03:00] | juski: | Hoxzer: you shouldn't need to do that |
| [16:03:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: wtf? because you cant configure your kernel? |
| [16:03:00] | Hoxzer: | k |
| [16:03:00] | dev-: | gentoo is apparently suited for tools |
| [16:03:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [16:03:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: yes :D |
| [16:03:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: you are using debian? |
| [16:03:00] | scopeuk: | ok i have decided i must improve my typing so if i start typing crap can you pick me up on it please? |
| [16:03:00] | juski: | Octane: gentoo, ubuntu.. knoppmyth... debian.. |
| [16:03:00] | Jasper: | hmm watching livetv mythfrontend takes 60%...a bit much maybe? |
| [16:03:00] | Hoxzer: | I found it |
| [16:03:00] | ** quitte bangs his head on the table ** | |
| [16:04:00] | Jasper: | what is a normal cpu load for mythfrontend? |
| [16:04:00] | juski: | Jasper: what's a normal alcohol capacity for people of varying weight & height? |
| [16:04:00] | dev-: | haha nice answer |
| [16:04:00] | Jasper: | hmm |
| [16:04:00] | dev-: | i couldnt think of a good one |
| [16:05:00] | Jasper: | let me look it up for you |
| [16:05:00] | Delemas: | Octane, CentOS too.. |
| [16:05:00] | Hoxzer: | what does "---" mean in kernel configure menu? |
| [16:05:00] | dev-: | that was perfect |
| [16:05:00] | scopeuk: | and the msn tv 2 boxes now have video output yay :D |
| [16:05:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: it means dont comile your own kernel |
| [16:05:00] | Jasper: | ok juski...is 65% much> |
| [16:05:00] | juski: | how many mytht users does it take to change a lightbulb if they haven't read the manual? |
| [16:05:00] | bazil: | hmm ..ill give up the webpageproblem for now .. guyes .. how do i set users for mythconverg database ? cant seem to find the commando and i cant connect from winmyth to the mythserver |
| [16:05:00] | juski: | Jasper: if you have a 3GHz CPU and you're trying to watch standard def. TV it's quite a lot |
| [16:05:00] | dev-: | bazil: rtfm mysql |
| [16:06:00] | Jasper: | I got a 600 mhz |
| [16:06:00] | Jasper: | erm 800 |
| [16:06:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | Jasper: looks about right |
| [16:06:00] | bazil: | dev .. thanks for the tip |
| [16:06:00] | dev-: | there's a reason 600mhz is the minimum requirements |
| [16:06:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte? eh...? |
| [16:06:00] | Jasper: | will it be less with hardware mpeg2 out juski ? |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | use xvmc and that 60% could be lowered a little |
| [16:06:00] | dev-: | so yeah, that sounds right |
| [16:06:00] | ** juski doesn't recommend anyone use a PVR350, so there ** | |
| [16:06:00] | Jasper: | like a lit less |
| [16:06:00] | Jasper: | you DON'T recommend it? |
| [16:07:00] | dev-: | bazil: no problem, this is a mythtv channel not a mysql howto channel. googleing for "adding users to mysql" is a better idea than asking in here. |
| [16:07:00] | juski: | Jasper: that's right |
| [16:07:00] | Jasper: | why not juski ? |
| [16:07:00] | quitte: | could someone please confirm that Hoxzer is the one that recompiles his kernel to remove serial support? |
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| [16:08:00] | juski: | quitete: I suggested it – you quickly corrected me |
| [16:08:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: now the problem is with dvb card |
| [16:08:00] | bazil: | dev np .. thought id ask and get an easy solution ... well . ill google instead |
| [16:09:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: you cannot make a better kernel than debians. believe me. just install a kernel for your cpu and be done. |
| [16:09:00] | dev-: | now what would you learn from that |
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| [16:09:00] | juski: | Jasper: 60% aint so bad – and you could prolly reduce that a fair bit by using a nvidia card (fx5200 or so) with tv out |
| [16:09:00] | dev-: | to come back here and questions you dont feel like looking up? now thats no good.. is it.. |
| [16:10:00] | Jasper: | juski you think it will reduce that much more than with a geforce2 ? |
| [16:10:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: you mean installing one from deb? |
| [16:10:00] | dev-: | xvmc is nice, yes, it will reduce cpu useage. |
| [16:10:00] | juski: | Jasper: my whole point about the pvr350 is that its main selling point (quality TV output & mpeg decoding) has been offset in recent times by nvidia cards etc |
| [16:10:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: yes |
| [16:10:00] | Hoxzer: | what if I say "lol"? |
| [16:10:00] | Jasper: | yeah but the nvidia cards don't have mpeg decoding? |
| [16:10:00] | juski: | Jasper: with geforce2, you don't get xvmc |
| [16:10:00] | dev-: | juski: not to mention the best setup is a split frontend so whats the point of mpeg2 decoding on the backend |
| [16:11:00] | juski: | dev – that too |
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| [16:11:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: then ill add you to my ignore list |
| [16:11:00] | Jasper: | are there nvidia cards with mpeg2 decoding? |
| [16:11:00] | dev-: | are you blind |
| [16:11:00] | dev-: | go lookup what xvmc is |
| [16:11:00] | ** dev- shakes head. ** | |
| [16:12:00] | dev-: | xvmc has been mentioned 4 times in the last 6 minutes |
| [16:12:00] | juski: | Jasper: X video Motion Compensation. it can take a lot of load off the CPU, but not all of it |
| [16:12:00] | tweak_st: | anybody have any problems with the 'watch recordings' preview picture colors? |
| [16:12:00] | dev-: | if you dont knwo what it is, you should look it up.. |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | tweak_st: that was an old bug in 0.17 iirc |
| [16:13:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: ok, what kernel do you sugges? |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | or Qt.. |
| [16:13:00] | bazil: | sorry if i annoyed u by beeing to lazy to search .. my bad dev .. sorry .. will not happend again .. in the future i will not ask questions that i cant look up .... so .. prolly will not ask nything since everything is possible in some way to look up on internet |
| [16:13:00] | Hoxzer: | 2.6? |
| [16:13:00] | tweak_st: | the weird thing is when i use a theme that distorts the preview aspect ratio there are no artifacts |
| [16:13:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: sarge or etch? what cpu? |
| [16:13:00] | tweak_st: | juski im on .19 |
| [16:13:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: yes. 2.6 |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | tweak_st – what's your desktop DPI set to hmm? |
| [16:13:00] | dev-: | bazil: good to hear. most likely you will come across something you *cant* lookup, which is what this channel is for :) |
| [16:14:00] | dev-: | unfortuantely it seems noobs just come to this channel now instead of even reading the mythtv docs. its pretty sad. |
| [16:14:00] | Ferrety: | well, xvmc cant beat pvr-350 on cpu usage(or am I wrong)... but still, juski is right about not recommending 350 at this day and age |
| [16:14:00] | tweak_st: | it was fine before i upgraded to .19 ...? |
| [16:14:00] | bazil: | sorry to bother .... now .. off to the internet |
| [16:14:00] | dev-: | Ferrety: until you split your frontend and backend |
| [16:14:00] | juski: | themes are based on 800x600 res at 100 DPI in the case of 4:3 themes. 16:9 themes are based on 1280x720 @ 100DPI |
| [16:14:00] | dev-: | you will outgrow a single box, it is inevitable |
| [16:14:00] | Jasper: | so xvmc is like some sort of driver? |
| [16:14:00] | Ferrety: | well, I am capturing dvb and decoding it with pvr |
| [16:14:00] | juski: | Jasper: kind of. it's an extension to X |
| [16:14:00] | Ferrety: | so, whats your point? |
| [16:15:00] | tweak_st: | how do i check dpi? |
| [16:15:00] | dev-: | pvr350 does not fit in mini-itx :) |
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| [16:15:00] | Ferrety: | heh :) |
| [16:15:00] | tweak_st: | xorg log? |
| [16:15:00] | Jasper: | I still don't get why my question was so weird..if there were nvidia cards with mpeg2 hardware encode.. |
| [16:15:00] | Hoxzer: | which one? :D |
| [16:15:00] | quitte: | dev-: that's what dremels are for |
| [16:15:00] | juski: | tweak_st: try xdpyinfo |
| [16:16:00] | juski: | Jasper: it's mpeg2 decoding _assistance_ |
| [16:16:00] | dev-: | quitte: true, but going for astetics is nice sometimes :) the fiance would not like a full height pci card sitcking out of a mini-itx case hehe |
| [16:16:00] | SpamLap: | I'm having some trouble changing channels ... the docs suggest I have a problem with my programs database. Any way I can confirm that? mythfilldatabase took forever to run.. not keen on clearing the db if i can avoid it. |
| [16:16:00] | dev-: | i use my 1 pci slot on my epia10ks for wireless |
| [16:16:00] | quitte: | dev-: the mini-itx i have has layd down pci – i assumed that was normal |
| [16:17:00] | tweak_st: | 75x75 |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | via xvmc is pretty nifty – that really _is_ decoding all the mpeg2 ;-) |
| [16:17:00] | Jasper: | but you're talking about decoding |
| [16:17:00] | dev-: | yah, riser slot, but you'll burnout a pvrXXX in such a small case |
| [16:17:00] | Jasper: | I'm talking about encoding |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | tweak_st: time to google how to set yopur desktop DPI |
| [16:17:00] | dev-: | especially if you're going fanless |
| [16:17:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: I see kernel-patch-2.6* files like 6 cuples which one I choose? |
| [16:17:00] | Jasper: | like the pvr350 |
| [16:17:00] | tweak_st: | you think that's the problem? |
| [16:17:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: no patch. how about you answered my questions? |
| [16:17:00] | dev-: | there are no nvidia cards that hardware encode mpeg2 |
| [16:18:00] | Jasper: | ok that was my question :P |
| [16:18:00] | dev-: | yes, i know |
| [16:18:00] | dev-: | and i believe you asked the wrong one |
| [16:18:00] | dev-: | i think you meant decode :) |
| [16:18:00] | Jasper: | why would I mean decode? if I talk about tv-out? |
| [16:18:00] | dev-: | lol. |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer: | quitte: cpu is 2,4Ghz pentium 4 (intel) |
| [16:18:00] | ** dev- gets out his crayons ** | |
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| [16:19:00] | dev-: | because you ENcode coming IN, you DEcode coming OUT |
| [16:19:00] | dev-: | :)))) |
| [16:19:00] | Jasper: | ah |
| [16:19:00] | Jasper: | then I mixed them up, sorry about that |
| [16:19:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: sarge or etch? |
| [16:19:00] | juski: | Jasper: easy to get confused. pvr350 decodes all the mpeg2 itself.. cpu just ticks over. nvidia XvMC _helps_ lighten the load on the CPU |
| [16:20:00] | dev-: | Jasper: http://www.xfree86.org/~mvojkovi/XvMC_API.txt |
| [16:20:00] | Jasper: | yeah I allready looked at that dev- |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | dev: so explain why the chips on tuner cards that digitise the video are called video decoders :-P |
| [16:21:00] | Jasper: | I would expect people calling them encoders.. |
| [16:21:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: for etch use linux-image-2.6-686-smp |
| [16:21:00] | Hoxzer: | I dunno which one I use |
| [16:21:00] | dev-: | juski: you're joking, right |
| [16:22:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: cat /etc/debian_version |
| [16:22:00] | Hoxzer: | 3.1 |
| [16:22:00] | Hoxzer: | and you can read from that is it sarge or etch? |
| [16:23:00] | quitte: | it is sarge |
| [16:23:00] | Hoxzer: | :D how can you know it |
| [16:23:00] | quitte: | actually i cant. but you'd told me if it was etch. |
| [16:23:00] | juski: | dev: I'm not... bt878 – video decoder. cx23880 – video decoder. phillips saa7134 – video decoder... I can see how noobs get confused |
| [16:24:00] | Hoxzer: | k |
| [16:24:00] | Hoxzer: | so what |
| [16:24:00] | Hoxzer: | now |
| [16:24:00] | Ferrety: | Jasper: of the pvr350, if you don't have one, dont get one (unless for really cheap), its not worth of its price these days (I think) |
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| [16:25:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| [16:25:00] | Hoxzer: | k |
| [16:26:00] | Hoxzer: | packages.debian.org is down at the moment due to performance issues. |
| [16:26:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [16:26:00] | quitte: | pdo.debian.net – as it says on the same page |
| [16:26:00] | quitte: | why dont you just apt-get install it? |
| [16:27:00] | Hoxzer: | lets try |
| [16:28:00] | Hoxzer: | didn't get it |
| [16:28:00] | quitte: | you didn'T get what? |
| [16:28:00] | Hoxzer: | repos suck in my box for some reason |
| [16:29:00] | Hoxzer: | like half of em isn't online |
| [16:29:00] | quitte: | sigh |
| [16:29:00] | Hoxzer: | I haven't set them |
| [16:29:00] | quitte: | apt-setup |
| [16:29:00] | quitte: | Hoxzer: did you even have a look at the debian install guide? |
| [16:29:00] | quitte: | i really dont understand how you managed to compile mythtv |
| [16:30:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [16:30:00] | Hoxzer: | It was already on distro |
| [16:30:00] | quitte: | no it wasn't. so someone else installed the box for you and you are fucking up his setup? |
| [16:31:00] | Hoxzer: | no, I'm using knoppmyth |
| [16:32:00] | quitte: | ok. THAT IS NOT DEBIAN |
| [16:32:00] | quitte: | for me that does it. go back configure your damn kernel |
| [16:32:00] | Hoxzer: | eh.... isn't knoppix debian based? |
| [16:32:00] | bazil: | shit .. the mysql online manual doesnt tell me how2 add users ... damn .. im stuck .. well .. keepin on searching |
| [16:33:00] | Merlin83b: | bazil: It does. GRANT PERMISSIONS ON dbname.* to username@hostnameorwildcard IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; |
| [16:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Or very similar. |
| [16:33:00] | tweak_st: | well that was futile, but hey i know how to change my dpi now |
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| [16:38:00] | bazil: | ah .. is that what the line from mythtv manuall means .. strange .. i cant get it to work .. well .. trying it again |
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| [16:41:00] | quitte: | hmm my Xorg.0.log says that XVideo-MotionCompensation was successfully loaded. i thought that didnt work with geforce2? |
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| [16:41:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: you there? |
| [16:43:00] | Jasper: | yea |
| [16:43:00] | Jasper: | coffee88 how did it go? |
| [16:43:00] | coffee88: | Got it all working? I'm just about to start trying to sort it out now.... |
| [16:44:00] | coffee88: | If I read the irc logs right, all I need to do is add mythtv to the video and audio groups, and chown all the old recordings?? |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
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| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | yeah |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | add mythtv to audio/video/mysql or it will give problems watching livetv |
| [16:44:00] | Jasper: | I deleted my complete db unfortunately ( |
| [16:45:00] | coffee88: | Does it need to be in the mysql group? |
| [16:45:00] | Jasper: | and you have to give permissions to your recording dir.. |
| [16:45:00] | Jasper: | since it's running on a new user |
| [16:45:00] | Jasper: | yeah I think so |
| [16:45:00] | coffee88: | recording dir is currently 777.... |
| [16:45:00] | Jasper: | no problem then |
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| [16:49:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: Do I need to change the ringbuffer perms as well? |
| [16:49:00] | Jasper: | not that I know off |
| [16:50:00] | Jasper: | hmm nice to see mythweb crashed allready |
| [16:50:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [16:50:00] | ** coffee88 runs downstairs to see if the changes have sorted it..... ** | |
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| [16:52:00] | bazil: | dev .. now i have a "askable" question for u .. witch i cant lookup .. i have set up the correct rights in mysql for mythconverg to be able to run winmyth but i still cant get the DSmyht to connect to the mysqldatabase trew the intranetwork |
| [16:53:00] | Jasper: | winmyth> |
| [16:54:00] | Merlin83b: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [16:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Welcome to the fun world of mysql. |
| [16:54:00] | bazil: | merlin .. have done |
| [16:54:00] | bazil: | even restarted mysql |
| [16:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Then your error message will tell you what's up. |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | winmyth != dsmyth |
| [16:55:00] | bazil: | errormsg only says that it cant connect to the mysqldatabase |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | and anyway.. winmyth won't work with 0.19 |
| [16:55:00] | Merlin83b: | That's not a Mysql error message. |
| [16:56:00] | juski: | barely even worked with 0.18 |
| [16:56:00] | Jasper: | winmyth blah ? |
| [16:56:00] | bazil: | no but the mysql doesnt give me any errormsgs .. or is there a logfile for mysql i havent thought about ? |
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| [16:56:00] | Jasper: | coffee88 did it work? |
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| [16:57:00] | bazil: | DAMN .. i really want to stream mythtv to work so i can watch the olympix at work ;/ |
| [16:57:00] | juski: | try doing some work instead |
| [16:57:00] | coffee88: | Well, it all seems to be working... Thought it had completly borked things, as the first time I wachd TV it was completly unwatchable. Stuttering like crazy..... |
| [16:57:00] | juski: | (said the pot to the kettle) |
| [16:57:00] | D-side: | good luck if you're behind nat. |
| [16:57:00] | juski: | wait til your IT dept. go 'hey what's all this eating up our pipe?" |
| [16:57:00] | coffee88: | BUt then I checked and the via xvmc had changed settings... Enabling that made a big diff!!... |
| [16:58:00] | bazil: | juski .. we dont have an IT department .. only me and my knowledge go so far |
| [16:58:00] | coffee88: | Still need to review all the settings though. It's not runnign as smooth as 18 yet, and picture is not as clear so far. :-( |
| [16:59:00] | bazil: | juski .. i dont wanna do some work .. company fired everyone for moving it to hungary instead .. so were just passing time untill shit closes down |
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| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | have fun in Budapest |
| [17:01:00] | quitte: | wheee. i finally have a picture. now i gotta make audio work somehow |
| [17:02:00] | quitte: | and switch filesystem to jfs :/ |
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| [17:04:00] | Merlin83b: | What? Mythweb's stopped working on my box? Dammit. |
| [17:05:00] | Merlin83b: | Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 26': |
| [17:05:00] | Merlin83b: | :< |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | right |
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| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | you have to upgrade it as well as the backend and frontend |
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| [17:05:00] | Merlin83b: | They are one the same SVN revision. |
| [17:07:00] | coffee88: | Mythweb's not working here either... But it's the first time i've tried it after the upgrade. Internal server error... Grrrr. |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | read the mythweb readme |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | that's why it was written :) |
| [17:07:00] | Merlin83b: | Have done, I wasn't asking for a fix, just venting :-) |
| [17:07:00] | Merlin83b: | I'll fix it somehow :-) |
| [17:08:00] | coffee88: | Invalid command 'setenv' |
| [17:09:00] | coffee88: | Beirdo: Where is teh readme?! Can't see it anywhere in the dir.... |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | wherever it got installed |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | in the source tree it's in mythplugins/mythweb/README |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | damned if I know where your packaging system put it |
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| [17:11:00] | coffee88: | Beirdo: gentoo, so it's not that simple, I think.... |
| [17:11:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [17:12:00] | dev-: | its always simple, just download and untar the source for the docs |
| [17:12:00] | dev-: | much easier than scavenger hunting for it. |
| [17:12:00] | Nichotin: | or simply use the ebuild tool |
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| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | or go onto svn.mythtv.org, and look at it in the source tree |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | plenty of ways to find it |
| [17:13:00] | Merlin83b: | Hmm, web and backend agree it should be 26. |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | lunch time |
| [17:14:00] | Jasper: | do you guys know if there are cards which ONLY have tv-out and nothing else? |
| [17:15:00] | dev-: | any video card, there are vga -> svideo cables the like.. |
| [17:15:00] | dev-: | why not just get a nvidia fxXXXX for 50$ and be done with it |
| [17:15:00] | dev-: | like suggested already. |
| [17:16:00] | ** xris really doesn't like distros that pull README's and such out of the package ** | |
| [17:16:00] | ** coffee88 doesn't either.... ** | |
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| [17:17:00] | Jasper: | A-OPEN GF FX5500 256MB AGP |
| [17:17:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [17:17:00] | coffee88: | Sweet. sorted. mod env needed. All working so so far. Yippee. Thanks. |
| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | coffee88: xris: The readme is there. |
| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | quit your bitching |
| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: too |
| [17:18:00] | dev-: | unfie? |
| [17:18:00] | coffee88: | Cardoe: My mistake, but I couldn't see it. Where is it? |
| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | it's in that folder |
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| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | the mythweb folder |
| [17:19:00] | xris: | coffee88: portage doesn't have a way to list files associated with a package? |
| [17:19:00] | dev-: | they';re not folders, this isnt windows, they're directories |
| [17:19:00] | dev-: | ;/ |
| [17:19:00] | Cardoe: | xris: coffee88: equery files <package> |
| [17:19:00] | ** Delemas pokes myth ** | |
| [17:19:00] | coffee88: | I was looking in the web dir.... |
| [17:19:00] | Cardoe: | dev-: quit being a tool. |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | coffee88: it's in two places |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | the standard place we put ALL readme files and ALL documentation with a pacakge |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | coffee88: /usr/share/doc/mythweb-0.19/README.gz |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | and it's also in the base *folder* (dev-) of mythweb |
| [17:21:00] | coffee88: | I'm guessing it's in the distfiles as well..... |
| [17:21:00] | dev-: | gay windows tool. |
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| [17:21:00] | Cardoe: | coffee88: rule of thumb all package documentation goes into /usr/share/doc |
| [17:21:00] | dev-: | look at it this way, you could say dir which is 3 letters and faster to type :) or sound like someone who grew up on explorer.exe |
| [17:22:00] | Jasper: | coffee88 did it work? |
| [17:22:00] | coffee88: | Cardoe: Thanks. I'll remember that now..... |
| [17:22:00] | Merlin83b: | dev-: And everybody understood the meaning anyway. Get over it. |
| [17:22:00] | coffee88: | Jasper: Yeah, all good to go now. |
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| [17:26:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh, blimey. /myth has filled up. |
| [17:26:00] | chuggachu: | Is anyone else getting an error installing the binaries from atrpms "Missing Dependency: mythweb >= 0.18" using YUM |
| [17:27:00] | coffee88: | Hmmm. Mythweb backend status page doesn't seem to work for me, but then again it didn't in 18 either.... |
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| [17:30:00] | Kelerion: | bugger.. kormoc ain't about |
| [17:30:00] | Kelerion: | I think it was him that said he'd help with my graphics card problem a week or so ago |
| [17:31:00] | Kelerion: | or it might have been Beirdo.. you about Beirdo? |
| [17:32:00] | Kelerion: | anyone an absolute wizz with ATI's xorg drivers? |
| [17:33:00] | dev-: | not a wizz, i didnt code them, or patch them, or anything like that. just read the docs and installed fglrx for my radeon9500pro and it worked fine.. |
| [17:33:00] | Kelerion: | I have a triple-headed setup here |
| [17:34:00] | dev-: | i heard non-radeon cards is no fun, and neither are radeon mobile. |
| [17:34:00] | Kelerion: | x300 and x700 cards |
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| [17:34:00] | Kelerion: | I can get a single (middle) monitor working.. *or* left and right monitors working as a big desktop.. but not all three going |
| [17:35:00] | dev-: | i havent messed with ati in dual-head or higher... sorry.. only nvidia, which is much much easier heh |
| [17:35:00] | dev-: | ati's linux support kind of sucks, though its gotten better |
| [17:36:00] | Kelerion: | I didn't know the state of the drivers when I bought this machine.. have learnt a lot about them since though.. lol |
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| [17:36:00] | marco_g: | hi |
| [17:36:00] | ** Delemas found the problem. QTDIR was still set to the wrong thing from outside the chroot. ** | |
| [17:37:00] | Jasper: | guys have you ever heard of the sigma x-card? |
| [17:40:00] | dev-: | so uh, plenty of successfull upgrades from .18 to .19? :) |
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| [17:40:00] | dev-: | going to upgrade all of them soon, heh |
| [17:40:00] | Kelerion: | worked a treat here.. but from svn.. not .18.. have been running svn for about a year now |
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| [17:42:00] | dev-: | excellent.. i couldnt really do svn, because every tv in my place is myth, fiance uses it, etc, it needs to work all the time without introducing new bugs hehe |
| [17:42:00] | dev-: | she aware of the new release and that im going to ugprade though. 2pm i will start since thats the beginning of a 5hr window between scheduled recordings heh |
| [17:42:00] | dev-: | dont get many windows like that these days. heh |
| [17:43:00] | dev-: | she made me get a 4th tuner because we were useing 3 at a time constantly. |
| [17:43:00] | dev-: | tv addict, she is |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [17:44:00] | Kelerion: | dev-, well.. it's handy when your other half approves of what your doing.. makes life a lot easier.. :) |
| [17:45:00] | Merlin83b: | Amen to that. |
| [17:46:00] | Merlin83b: | And thanks, backend, for finally freeing up some disk space :-) |
| [17:46:00] | dev-: | hehe yeah.. its funny though, when i started with myth, last spring, it was 1 settop box, it took me about a little less than a week to get going because i had never messed with capture cards in unix before. she was bitching the first couple days i wasnt spending any time with her, etc etc. then i set it up, and she complained and complained about the remote mappings. it took a good week after setting it up to get the mappings 'girlfriend friendly |
| [17:46:00] | coffee88: | Hmmm. Does a frontend box need mysql on it too? Just trying to emerge using the the frontendonly flag, and it still wants to build mysql? |
| [17:46:00] | Merlin83b: | coffee88: mysql client, yes |
| [17:46:00] | Merlin83b: | I'm going home. |
| [17:47:00] | dev-: | a couple weeks after that, we noticed we needed 2 tuners. 1 does not cut it at all. a few months after that, we needed a 3rd, then a 4th... now niether of us can live without myth |
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| [17:47:00] | dev-: | i setup myth on my laptop so we can watch tv in the kitcehn, or the deck, or in the garage when im working on my car.. heh.. |
| [17:47:00] | drdaz: | ahoy there... I'm having some troubles with getting X to actually use my modelines... |
| [17:47:00] | drdaz: | I've added them to xorg.conf in the correct places... but when I restart X and run xvidtune I am told I am running in 1024*768 |
| [17:48:00] | Kelerion: | just found the log.. was kormoc that said he'd give me a hand with the xorg setup :) |
| [17:48:00] | drdaz: | I'm using nvidia's 7676 drivers and am trying to get 720*576 and or 960*576 working |
| [17:49:00] | dev-: | drdaz: maybe the x log can shed some light on why its not useing your modeline? |
| [17:49:00] | drdaz: | I'd imagine so... what filename should I be searching for? |
| [17:50:00] | dev-: | /var/log |
| [17:50:00] | dev-: | :) |
| [17:50:00] | drdaz: | lol |
| [17:50:00] | dev-: | you shouldnt be able to miss it |
| [17:50:00] | ** drdaz sucks ** | |
| [17:50:00] | Kelerion: | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| [17:50:00] | drdaz: | found it |
| [17:50:00] | drdaz: | hehe |
| [17:51:00] | bazil: | anyone here good with winmyth . ive fixed the mysqldatabase connection in DSMyth so it works .. it still complains when starting winmyth |
| [17:51:00] | dev-: | winmyth is useless. |
| [17:51:00] | ** drdaz agrees ** | |
| [17:51:00] | bazil: | how do i make it stream then = |
| [17:51:00] | bazil: | ? |
| [17:51:00] | bazil: | on a windows machine |
| [17:52:00] | drdaz: | live TV? |
| [17:52:00] | dev-: | modifying mythweb to link your .nuv files as http then installing vlc and mapping it to .nuv extension is what i do |
| [17:52:00] | drdaz: | or recordings? |
| [17:52:00] | dev-: | but live tv, is no go. |
| [17:52:00] | bazil: | ya live tv |
| [17:52:00] | dev-: | nothing you can do. |
| [17:52:00] | dev-: | without some vlc trickery and perl scripts |
| [17:52:00] | drdaz: | recordings will go over dsmyth |
| [17:52:00] | drdaz: | although.. |
| [17:52:00] | bazil: | oki |
| [17:52:00] | drdaz: | it can be done if you're not using an mpeg2 hardware encoder card |
| [17:52:00] | Kelerion: | install myth in a vmware on your windows machine :) |
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| [17:53:00] | drdaz: | if its software it can work |
| [17:53:00] | bazil: | oki |
| [17:53:00] | bazil: | i have mpeg2card |
| [17:54:00] | drdaz: | then you're in the same boat as me... waiting for mythfrontend to be ported :p |
| [17:54:00] | dev-: | i heard mythfrontend in vmware runs good |
| [17:54:00] | dev-: | havent tried it myself though. |
| [17:54:00] | Kelerion: | you can open the mpg recordings in vlc easy enough |
| [17:54:00] | drdaz: | I have.. |
| [17:54:00] | drdaz: | it was kinda slow |
| [17:54:00] | bazil: | but i can still stream the recorded programs ? |
| [17:54:00] | ChanServ sets mode +sntc | |
| [17:54:00] | Kelerion: | I run it in vmware fine |
| [17:54:00] | drdaz: | and rendered the rest of my machine pretty useless |
| [17:55:00] | dev-: | /usr/bin/vlc -I http --sout-transcode-fps=25 --sout '#transcode{vcodec=DIV3,acodec=mp3,vb=256,ab=64,scale=.5}:standard{access=http{u ser=username,pwd=password,mime=video/x-ms-asf},mux=asf,url=:8001}' pvr:/dev/video0 |
| [17:55:00] | dev-: | that works, but you have to change channels manually. |
| [17:55:00] | dev-: | is how i watch livetv at work heh |
| [17:55:00] | Kelerion: | I only use it when I want to watch something.. then pause it when I'm finished.. |
| [17:55:00] | drdaz: | Kelerion: what kinda machine do you have? |
| [17:55:00] | drdaz: | beefy? |
| [17:56:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [17:56:00] | drdaz: | heh |
| [17:56:00] | drdaz: | how beefy? |
| [17:56:00] | bazil: | dev .. thats only in linux right .. not gonna work in windows ? |
| [17:56:00] | dev-: | you run vlc on your backend to open up that port which you stream from with mplayer/vlc client |
| [17:56:00] | drdaz: | I tried it out on an athlon XP-M clocked at about 2GHz.. |
| [17:57:00] | dev-: | from what i understand, mediaplayer is gay and wont 'stream' unless you use m$'s little streaming server bs |
| [17:57:00] | drdaz: | on an FC4 install in vmware |
| [17:57:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.computerelectronics.co.uk/acatalog/TarusST3.html |
| [17:57:00] | drdaz: | and performance was just nasty |
| [17:57:00] | drdaz: | youch! |
| [17:57:00] | drdaz: | :-O |
| [17:58:00] | bazil: | dev .. feel like elaborate taht solution further .. i understood justabout nothing |
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| [17:59:00] | bazil: | how about mythstream .. is that shit 2 ? |
| [17:59:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc: just the man I wanted to see :) |
| [17:59:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [17:59:00] | Kelerion: | remember offering to help me out with a xorg problem? (ati cards with triple head setup) |
| [18:00:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | run away! |
| [18:00:00] | Kelerion: | I said I'd take you up on it when I tried linux on this machine again.. and I have it installed |
| [18:00:00] | dev-: | mythstreamtv works great for watching recorded programs. it will not allow you watch livetv either. and all mythstreamtv is, is a few php and shell scripts for vlc |
| [18:00:00] | Kelerion: | I can get a single (middle) monitor working.. *or* left and right monitors working as a big desktop.. but not all three going |
| [18:01:00] | drdaz: | dev: this is bizarre... the log file says "no such mode"... yet I have it defined under the Monitor section |
| [18:02:00] | Kelerion: | drdaz, further up on the log it'll say why it rejected it |
| [18:02:00] | drdaz: | ... it will? |
| [18:02:00] | drdaz: | heh |
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| [18:03:00] | drdaz: | (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "720x576" (no mode of this name) |
| [18:04:00] | drdaz: | oh! |
| [18:04:00] | drdaz: | (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "720x576" (hsync out of range) |
| [18:04:00] | drdaz: | ^^ |
| [18:04:00] | drdaz: | I think that might have been what you were referring to? |
| [18:05:00] | Kelerion: | :) |
| [18:05:00] | Kelerion: | http://pastebin.com/556280 |
| [18:05:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, that has all the info |
| [18:06:00] | Kelerion: | and that xorg.conf is giving me monitors 1 and 3 in a big desktop |
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| [18:07:00] | bazil: | yea dev i know its a shellscript for vlc .. but since i am a freakin lamer i need scripts to fix things for me ;) |
| [18:07:00] | bazil: | watchin recording .. i can start a recording and watch it streamed at the same time ? |
| [18:07:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, okay, and what's the issue? |
| [18:08:00] | Kelerion: | I can't figure out how to get all three going... last time I tried this whenever I reference the driver twice (once for each card) the driver would segfault |
| [18:08:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, well, one thing I noticed is you don't have MTRR's enabled in your kernel, you really should |
| [18:09:00] | sona_: | in mythtv 0.19, everything I watch is recorded, actually it records 24/7 whatever is tuned, why is this ? |
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| [18:09:00] | Kelerion: | that'd take a custom kernel recompile right? |
| [18:09:00] | tamp4x is now known as syntheiq | |
| [18:09:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, yeah |
| [18:10:00] | Kelerion: | I don't mind doing that.. is that a pre-requisite? |
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| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | sona_, it records live tv, aye. |
| [18:10:00] | drdaz: | hmm... I was using gtf to generate my modeline... got any suggestions as to what to use? |
| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, it's one of the very highly recommended items, yeah |
| [18:10:00] | sona_: | kormoc: and adds a show ´to recorded programs when I change channel ? |
| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | sona_, correct |
| [18:10:00] | sona_: | wtf |
| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | sona_, they are just expired first when space is used up |
| [18:11:00] | sona_: | ahaa |
| [18:11:00] | sona_: | damn, is there a way to disable this ? |
| [18:11:00] | kormoc: | sona_, not that I know of, no. |
| [18:11:00] | drdaz: | oO |
| [18:11:00] | sona_: | cause it has already deleted the shows I'd record |
| [18:11:00] | kormoc: | sona_, why have it on live tv 24/7 tho? |
| [18:12:00] | Kelerion: | could downgrade to .17 or pre-.18 I suppose.. it didn't work like that then (livetv handling) |
| [18:12:00] | kormoc: | 0.18.1 didn't do it as well |
| [18:12:00] | sona_: | kormoc: what do you mena ? |
| [18:12:00] | drdaz: | .18 doesnt do that either |
| [18:12:00] | kormoc: | sona_, it should only record like that when you're watching live tv |
| [18:12:00] | drdaz: | yeh |
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| [18:13:00] | drdaz: | it is weird behaviour tho... I can see why they've implemented it that way, but.. |
| [18:13:00] | sona_: | ok so whenever all space is used it starts deleting shows I've recorded ? |
| [18:13:00] | Kelerion: | will let it finish compile myth then recompile the kernel.. this is a default 2.6.12 ubuntu kernel |
| [18:13:00] | kormoc: | sona_, it should delete livetv first, and then the shows in the order you have them set to autoexpire |
| [18:13:00] | Kelerion: | deletes those livetv recordings first though |
| [18:13:00] | lars-ut is now known as lars-ut-away | |
| [18:13:00] | sona_: | Today when I was gonna watch yesterays late Night Show I found 20GB winter OS instead |
| [18:14:00] | drdaz: | methinks it would make a lot more sense to delete the show you've been watching when you change channel |
| [18:14:00] | bazil: | fuck .. latest version of mythstreamtv doesnt have support for my mythweb ... |
| [18:14:00] | xris: | bazil: search the mailing list archives, there's a patch |
| [18:15:00] | bazil: | oki |
| [18:15:00] | bazil: | thanks |
| [18:17:00] | drdaz: | now I'm sitting here with this modeline and wondering how to get hsync in range: |
| [18:17:00] | drdaz: | ModeLine "720x576" 26.57 720 736 808 896 576 577 580 593 -HSync +Vsync |
| [18:18:00] | drdaz: | range being 30–60... that's hopefully appropriate for a PAL CRT |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | drdaz: X -configure |
| [18:21:00] | drdaz: | kk... is there a keyboard shortcut to shut down X and dump me to console? |
| [18:22:00] | jvs: | strg-alt-backspace |
| [18:22:00] | chuggachu: | drdaz init 3 |
| [18:22:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, crtl + alt + backspace |
| [18:22:00] | jvs: | yeah, ctrl :) |
| [18:22:00] | drdaz: | went for init 3... ctrl – alt – backspace restarts it :) |
| [18:23:00] | Kelerion: | should mtrr speed up a machine too? |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, graphically, aye |
| [18:23:00] | Kelerion: | good good.. I like good news :) |
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| [18:24:00] | drdaz: | oO hmm... when I run X -configure I get "Module load failure" |
| [18:24:00] | Kelerion: | I haven't had to compile my own kernel for over 2 years! lol |
| [18:25:00] | Kelerion: | I just know this is gonna break something else |
| [18:25:00] | bazil: | fuck i dont find any patches in mythstreamtvs mailinglist ... found one bugfix but that doesnt work to run |
| [18:25:00] | Kelerion: | bazil – you swear too much |
| [18:25:00] | bazil: | sorry |
| [18:25:00] | drdaz: | lol |
| [18:25:00] | bazil: | didnt mean to offend |
| [18:25:00] | bazil: | my bad .. |
| [18:25:00] | Kelerion: | np |
| [18:26:00] | bazil: | still feel the way i say it though .. hate beeing an idiot |
| [18:26:00] | drdaz: | Duplicate symbol _nv000469X in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia-1.0–7676_drv.o |
| [18:26:00] | drdaz: | Also defined in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o |
| [18:26:00] | drdaz: | ^^ |
| [18:26:00] | drdaz: | wtf? |
| [18:27:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, your nvidia drivers are a bit... screwed |
| [18:27:00] | drdaz: | :-/ |
| [18:27:00] | drdaz: | I'd have said the same except |
| [18:27:00] | drdaz: | they work fine |
| [18:27:00] | drdaz: | lol |
| [18:28:00] | kormoc: | likely one of them should have been removed and wasn't |
| [18:28:00] | drdaz: | or rather.. they usually do |
| [18:28:00] | drdaz: | hmm... |
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| [18:28:00] | drdaz: | should I just try deleting one and hope for the best? |
| [18:28:00] | drdaz: | or might there be a smart way of doing this? |
| [18:28:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc: do you have a similar setup to me too? |
| [18:28:00] | Kelerion: | graphics wise |
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| [18:29:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, I do at home, only with a nvidia card rather then a ati card. I've done similar to yours with ati cards before as well |
| [18:29:00] | Kelerion: | excellent |
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| [18:31:00] | Juski: | what the? http://linpvr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=477 |
| [18:31:00] | drdaz: | kormoc: are my drivers really borked if I can start x normally? |
| [18:31:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, certainly, just not very borked :P |
| [18:32:00] | drdaz: | lolz |
| [18:32:00] | drdaz: | I tried renaming the latter file.. |
| [18:32:00] | Juski: | looks like minimyth can play 1080i on the SP8000 board |
| [18:32:00] | drdaz: | then was told my mouse couldnt be detected oO |
| [18:33:00] | coffee88: | Juski: does minimyth make full use of the unichrome stuff? |
| [18:33:00] | Juski: | coffee88: yup |
| [18:33:00] | Juski: | wouldn't use it otherwise |
| [18:34:00] | coffee88: | May have to try it... Did I see you say the other day that it's no longer being distributed? |
| [18:34:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, perhaps it's the other file that should be removed? |
| [18:34:00] | drdaz: | worth a shot I guess |
| [18:34:00] | Juski: | coffee88: no you didn't |
| [18:34:00] | Juski: | minimyth is very much still alive & well |
| [18:35:00] | Juski: | they've just not bothered updating their linpvr.org front page for the last 2 years |
| [18:35:00] | coffee88: | Juski: my mistake. Again! I thought it was in some convo about patents and grot. |
| [18:35:00] | drdaz: | kormoc: same shit :-| |
| [18:35:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, odd... doublely so given it's complaining about the mouse driver when dealing with the video driver... |
| [18:36:00] | drdaz: | I perhaps didnt tell the whole story |
| [18:36:00] | drdaz: | 2 shakes |
| [18:37:00] | drdaz: | http://pastebin.com/556339 |
| [18:37:00] | Hoxzer: | where are mythtv settings saved? |
| [18:38:00] | bazil: | guyes .. i fixed the problem with the no version for this mythweb now al i need to figure out it this errormsg ... |
| [18:38:00] | bazil: | Fixing up file permissions: chown: `mythtv:mythtv': invalid group |
| [18:38:00] | Juski: | hmmm seems my crappy athlon2800 can play 1080i too |
| [18:38:00] | drdaz: | Hoxzer: generally in the database |
| [18:38:00] | Hoxzer: | so I can't backup them? |
| [18:38:00] | bazil: | what group are the errormsg talking about ? |
| [18:38:00] | drdaz: | I didnt say that |
| [18:38:00] | drdaz: | :) |
| [18:38:00] | drdaz: | thats in the mythtv documentation |
| [18:39:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, change your mouse driver protocol from auto to the correct driver |
| [18:39:00] | drdaz: | correct driver, eh? |
| [18:39:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [18:39:00] | ** drdaz scratches his head ** | |
| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, it's usually ImPS/2 |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | Oh GOD my coworker's music is driving me batty again today |
| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, man 4 mouse to see all the settings |
| [18:40:00] | drdaz: | kk |
| [18:40:00] | drdaz: | erm |
| [18:40:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: showtunes AGAIN? ;-) |
| [18:40:00] | drdaz: | Driver "mouse" |
| [18:40:00] | drdaz: | Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" |
| [18:41:00] | Beirdo: | nah, funky remixes of 80s music |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, caps matter, ImPS/2 |
| [18:41:00] | Juski: | ugh! |
| [18:41:00] | Juski: | funky, as in they _stink_ ;-) |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | Take me to... Funkey Town! |
| [18:41:00] | Beirdo: | time to drown his ass out again |
| [18:41:00] | drdaz: | heh ok.. this was autogenerated I think :p |
| [18:41:00] | ** Beirdo cues Metallica – Ride the Lightning ** | |
| [18:41:00] | j-rod|afk is now known as j-rod | |
| [18:41:00] | Beirdo: | that should do it |
| [18:41:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v j-rod | |
| [18:42:00] | Beirdo: | heya, j-rod. |
| [18:42:00] | Beirdo: | long time, no see |
| [18:42:00] | kormoc: | Mornin' Mr. j-rod |
| [18:42:00] | drdaz: | kormoc: same story |
| [18:42:00] | j-rod: | very long |
| [18:42:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, very odd |
| [18:42:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, you might need to add the device line pointing to the correct /dev/ file |
| [18:42:00] | Beirdo: | welcome back to the jungle |
| [18:42:00] | j-rod: | hehe |
| [18:42:00] | j-rod: | glad to be back |
| [18:42:00] | j-rod: | looking forward to staying back |
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| [18:42:00] | drdaz: | you can see tho that the module error is there |
| [18:43:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, yeah, but they are different issues :P |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | finally shut down my RH8 server a month or so ago :) |
| [18:43:00] | D-side: | wow. |
| [18:43:00] | D-side: | at work? |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | at home |
| [18:43:00] | D-side: | yeesh. what was it doing? |
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| [18:44:00] | drdaz: | kormoc: /dev/mice? |
| [18:44:00] | j-rod: | yay! no more rh8... :) |
| [18:44:00] | Beirdo: | mail, web, news |
| [18:44:00] | ** j-rod still deals with ~300 RH73 boxes on a daily basis ** | |
| [18:44:00] | Beirdo: | still got FC1 on the main PVR and the fileserver |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, perhaps, depending. it is /dev/psaux for me, others use /dev/mice, or /dev/mouse0, or /dev/input/mice or /dev/input/mouse0 or whatever they need |
| [18:45:00] | j-rod: | though I'm in the process of moving one cluster from RH73 to SLES9 |
| [18:45:00] | j-rod: | my last hurrah at Linux Networx |
| [18:45:00] | drdaz: | heh the line is there already oO |
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| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | oh wow, moving on already? |
| [18:46:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, I just checked the .config for this kernel and it says it's in there |
| [18:46:00] | drdaz: | thing is... what I'm actually trying to do here is make a modeline work :p |
| [18:46:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, in your dmesg it's saying it's not, as you can see |
| [18:46:00] | drdaz: | this seems like a bit of a sidetrack somehow |
| [18:47:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, yeah, I just got a job at Red Hat. :) |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | Oh cool. |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | well done |
| [18:47:00] | j-rod: | danke |
| [18:47:00] | laga: | nice :) |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | have to move again? |
| [18:47:00] | j-rod: | lookin' forward to it |
| [18:47:00] | xris: | too far away, though |
| [18:47:00] | j-rod: | yeah, I'm moving from Seattle to Westford, MA |
| [18:47:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, he's gonna be a east coaster |
| [18:47:00] | Kelerion: | actually it said "mtrr: no more MTRRs available" .. doesn't that mean it's in there but just run out? |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | Eeeek |
| [18:47:00] | j-rod: | quite the move |
| [18:47:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ooh! I misread... sorry... |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | that's a bigger move than the one I wanna do soon |
| [18:47:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, cat /proc/mtrr |
| [18:47:00] | j-rod: | REALLY looking forward to the 3000 mile drive... |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | Toronto -> Puerto Rico |
| [18:48:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, is there only one? |
| [18:48:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, it's not that bad of a drive. |
| [18:48:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: whoa. |
| [18:48:00] | D-side: | staying within the company? |
| [18:48:00] | j-rod: | we'll see about the drive |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | D-side: the love of a good woman does wonders |
| [18:48:00] | drdaz: | kormoc: u goy any suggestions for tweaking a modeline? |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | no, looking for employment |
| [18:48:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc http://pastebin.com/556354 |
| [18:48:00] | kormoc: | drdaz, not really, nope |
| [18:48:00] | j-rod: | I've got two small children and two dogs going along for the ride |
| [18:48:00] | drdaz: | :-/ kk |
| [18:48:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: indeed. |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | Beirdo: and two screaming kids. ;) |
| [18:48:00] | Chutt: | j-rod, redhat? |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: make an adventure of it... like camp all the way across the country |
| [18:49:00] | j-rod: | Chutt, yeah |
| [18:49:00] | laga: | j-rod: take a plane? :) |
| [18:49:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, wtf? any idea why you have so many? |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | they turned me down :p |
| [18:49:00] | j-rod: | !?! |
| [18:49:00] | j-rod: | wow |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | not that i wanted to move to MA, anyway |
| [18:49:00] | dev-: | yeah i wouldnt want to heh |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | but i did go interview there |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | hey, I'd work for them if I can do so from PR |
| [18:49:00] | dev-: | if only for the accents ;p |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:49:00] | j-rod: | laga, I still have to get my Volvo and my Tahoe across the country |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | they only had 'build rpm' positions open, no development |
| [18:49:00] | Kelerion: | I don't even know what MTRR's are.. lol.. |
| [18:49:00] | j-rod: | I guess I could sell them or pay to have them shipped, but... |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | j-rod: $500–800 apiece to ship on train |
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| [18:50:00] | j-rod: | yeah, there's a few build monkey jobs I know about |
| [18:50:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, if you reboot, do they get filled up again? |
| [18:50:00] | j-rod: | I'm joining the EL kernel group |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | xris: guess who has a cast around his right wrist because of RSI ;) |
| [18:50:00] | Chutt: | cool |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | congrats, j-rod. |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | laga: you? |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | j-rod: well done ;) |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | xris: yep. it truly sucks. ;) |
| [18:51:00] | Kelerion: | could the bios be mis-representing it's processor somehow? |
| [18:51:00] | xris: | laga: I bet. I only have a taped wrist and a brace |
| [18:51:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, when you're feeling homesick for the nasty traffic of Seattle, remember, DC and Baltamore are very close by! |
| [18:51:00] | j-rod: | hm, only $500–800 to ship the car... |
| [18:51:00] | Kelerion: | one sec.. gonna switch irc to another machine and reboot this one |
| [18:51:00] | j-rod: | kormoc, I *highly* doubt I'll miss the shitty traffic, but I'll keep it in mind... :) |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | driving a Tahoe across country will cost a fair amount in gas, I'd bet |
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| [18:52:00] | j-rod: | yah, there would be that |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | xris: err, yes. i meant brace instead of cast, sorry ;). i've taken it off now, though. i can't use the mouse when i'm wearing it |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | DC and Baltimore? NYC is even closer |
| [18:52:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, just wait till you get to deal with the nasty roads and the wonderful winter weather :) |
| [18:52:00] | j-rod: | esp. if I put my car on a trailer behind it |
| [18:52:00] | kormoc: | beavis, no it's not |
| [18:52:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, erm, no it's not |
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| [18:52:00] | j-rod: | Put the Tahoe in 4-low! |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | Ah, MA, not ME |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | wait |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | yes... |
| [18:52:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, NYC will be 8 hours+ for him, Baltamore will be 1–2, with DC being slightly more. |
| [18:53:00] | j-rod: | MA= Massachusetts |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | MA is NORTH of NYC, DC and Baltimore are south |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | south of NYC that is |
| [18:53:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, I thought you were going to maryland? |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | not MD |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:53:00] | kormoc: | oopsies. |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:53:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [18:53:00] | dev-: | yes, the accents will suck |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | hell, Boston's got traffic enough |
| [18:53:00] | Chutt: | someone doesn't know their state acronyms |
| [18:53:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, you have the wonders of Boston then! |
| [18:53:00] | j-rod: | its about an hour outside of Boston |
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| [18:53:00] | Chutt: | traffic was pretty bad on the highways out by westford when i was there |
| [18:53:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, for the summer, get lots of bug repellient. |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | and MIT-grad repellant |
| [18:54:00] | kormoc: | Sketos love that area a lot. |
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| [18:54:00] | Chutt: | of course, it under construction, dark, and raining heavily |
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| [18:54:00] | j-rod: | traffic wasn't too bad when I was out there, but tons of snow |
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| [18:54:00] | j-rod: | people all do like 30 over the limit on the Everett Turnpike... |
| [18:54:00] | j-rod: | (I can get used to that!) |
| [18:54:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [18:55:00] | ** j-rod has been known to speed. A lot. ** | |
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| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, sadly that means you won't be working with my friend |
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| [18:55:00] | Chutt: | so i imagine you'll have more free time now? |
| [18:55:00] | j-rod: | kormoc, where's the friend? |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | 30 over the limit? what's what, 90miles per hour? |
| [18:55:00] | j-rod: | Chutt, yeah, should have considerably more free time |
| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, maryland :) |
| [18:55:00] | Chutt: | nice |
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| [18:55:00] | j-rod: | laga, yeah, 90-ish |
| [18:56:00] | j-rod: | (I know, its not the autobahn) |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | I'll have more time soon too, I hope.. after relocating and getting married... |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | j-rod: oh, ok. just wondering ;) |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | give me time |
| [18:56:00] | kormoc: | laga, when I was in PA, I hit 120 quite a few times going down the main highway |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:56:00] | j-rod: | I'll have more free time once my kids grow up and move out of the house... |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | kormoc: not too bad. sounds expensive, though ;) |
| [18:56:00] | j-rod: | My old honda had a speed gov that kicked in at 112 |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | I never hit one in my Accord V6 |
| [18:57:00] | j-rod: | haven't had a chance to push my volvo past 105 |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | had it to 180km/h peak, I think |
| [18:57:00] | kormoc: | laga, expensive? for what? |
| [18:57:00] | j-rod: | 180 km/h is roughly 112mph |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: the ticket if you get caught... or is that a directly to jail? |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | kormoc: if you get caught :) |
| [18:57:00] | kormoc: | I've been caught |
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| [18:58:00] | kormoc: | given warnings and let go, no ticket |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: yeah, I lifted my foot though, didn't realize I was going that fast |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | the 60km/h -> 160km/h passing a tractor once was fun |
| [18:58:00] | j-rod: | I got pulled over in Cali doing slightly double the speed limit (which was 55) |
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| [18:58:00] | j-rod: | fortunately, the CHiP was going the other way, so no radar |
| [18:58:00] | kormoc: | I once got pulled over for doing 120 in a 60, and the cop gave me a warning and a ticket for turning right on red in a no turn on red intersection |
| [18:58:00] | j-rod: | got a "70+ in a 55" ticket |
| [18:58:00] | dev-: | lol |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | pull in, do a speed check... doing twice the limit. |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | muhaha |
| [18:58:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc – still all there after rebooting.. but it seems to be complaining about running out just after loaded the fglrx drivers |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, that's so odd... |
| [18:59:00] | j-rod: | I want my friend's modded S60R |
| [18:59:00] | dev-: | i got pegged on radar doing 110 in a 65 in the nj turnpike. but i downshifted and floored it, out ran him heh |
| [18:59:00] | dev-: | that would have been a neat ticket. |
| [18:59:00] | j-rod: | he's got it up to 167 in southeastern washington |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, you are disabling the xfree86-dga mod, right? |
| [18:59:00] | ** kormoc shudders ** | |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | NJ cops suck... |
| [19:00:00] | j-rod: | Chutt, how long ago were you talking to RH? |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | s/NJ // |
| [19:00:00] | Chutt: | hrm |
| [19:00:00] | Chutt: | almost two years now |
| [19:00:00] | dev-: | nj state troopers are a bit of a rare breed of asshole |
| [19:00:00] | Kelerion: | doesn't even mention dga in my xorg.conf.. could the GL stuff do that? |
| [19:00:00] | Chutt: | must've been march-ish, 04 |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | the most interesting speeding story though.. my cousin got pulled over (with me in the car) in his diesel Rabbit... we got clocked doing 160km/h in a 50km/h zone |
| [19:01:00] | j-rod: | if you get the urge again, it always helps to know people on the inside... |
| [19:01:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/xorg.conf.ati |
| [19:01:00] | Chutt: | i like what i'm doing now :p |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, SubSection "extmod" |
| [19:01:00] | ** xris kicks mythweb ** | |
| [19:01:00] | Chutt: | and they weren't keen on the idea of telecommuting |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, you'd want to add that subsection to your xorg.conf |
| [19:01:00] | j-rod: | I figured |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | that poor little car couldn't possibly go faster without a hurricane for a tailwind |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, it frees up some mtrrs, which might help |
| [19:01:00] | j-rod: | I'll be telecommuting for a month or two while I get my house sold |
| [19:02:00] | j-rod: | but yeah, they like you in the office |
| [19:04:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, your xorg.conf looks suspiciously like how I would have thought mine should look like (for two monitors) .. even down the the pciid's.. would it be worth using yours as a template and work from there to add the 3rd monitor? |
| [19:04:00] | jams: | hey j-rod good to see you |
| [19:05:00] | j-rod: | good to be seen. :) |
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| [19:05:00] | j-rod: | yay, my two new HDTV cards show up this afternoon... |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [19:05:00] | j-rod: | finally getting around to some that actually work w/QAM... |
| [19:06:00] | j-rod: | (grabbed an Airstar HD5000 and a FusionHDTV 5 Lite) |
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| [19:08:00] | Niklas_E: | if you enabled and added the path to linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0 and compiled. Adds the channels.conf (dvb-s), the szap works but mythtv won't it doesn't lock the channel so there isn't any picture or sound. Know any tip for this error? |
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| [19:10:00] | j-rod: | why is yast such a pile of shit when it comes to installing software? |
| [19:10:00] | j-rod: | am I doing something wrong here? |
| [19:10:00] | j-rod: | You can't get the updated version of a package, you have to install the old version, then update... |
| [19:11:00] | j-rod: | lord, I can't wait until I don't have to touch suse anymore... |
| [19:11:00] | drdaz: | I'm getting told my mode is 'not a valid TV mode'... trying to get 960x576 working... is there just no way of getting a widescreen res with the standard PAL height? |
| [19:11:00] | jams: | heh, must be the delta package |
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| [19:12:00] | drdaz: | working thru TV out that is :) |
| [19:12:00] | j-rod: | fun with sles9... |
| [19:14:00] | j-rod: | don't even get me started on how unprepared sles9 is for real enterprise environments... |
| [19:15:00] | j-rod: | it wasn't until sp3 that they finally supported ssl proxies |
| [19:15:00] | drdaz: | actually... does anybody here know how to get mythgallery to properly scale photos according to xorg's DisplaySize variable? |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:16:00] | drdaz: | I'm displaying on a widescreen and everybody looks fat in the pictures :-| |
| [19:16:00] | j-rod: | maybe they reallly are fat? |
| [19:16:00] | drdaz: | nah |
| [19:16:00] | j-rod: | :p |
| [19:16:00] | drdaz: | :p |
| [19:17:00] | drdaz: | its kinda odd.. the rest of myth manages to pay attention and stretch things properly |
| [19:17:00] | Niklas_E: | does mythtv use dvbstream? |
| [19:17:00] | Chutt: | mythgallery hasn't really been updated in a while |
| [19:17:00] | Chutt: | i don't know if it was ever really fixed to handle widescreen |
| [19:18:00] | drdaz: | it would appear not :-/ |
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| [19:19:00] | seme: | hi guys.. how do I get subtitles to display? |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Niklas_E: No it does not |
| [19:20:00] | Niklas_E: | ok |
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| [19:23:00] | Kelerion: | ok kormoc.. tried yours but it just went completely outta whack.. have added that dga option but still have tons of mtrr entries |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ooh? |
| [19:24:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
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| [19:24:00] | Kelerion: | 8 of them |
| [19:24:00] | Kelerion: | I had an idea about it though |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ooh? |
| [19:25:00] | Kelerion: | one of the cards is onboard.. and one of them is a pci-express.. the onboard one uses shared memory.. I bet that could be related |
| [19:25:00] | seme: | hrm... mplayer doesn't seem to display subtitles or I didn't record them |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ooh, good point. perhaps indeed |
| [19:26:00] | Kelerion: | and if thats the case.. I doubt its anything to be worried about |
| [19:27:00] | Kelerion: | I do have a problem with that theory of course.. but am gonna let it run for now.. lol |
| [19:28:00] | Jasper: | how do you go to the dvd menu when using the internal player? |
| [19:28:00] | Kelerion: | so.. current state.. I have monitors one and three running as a big desktop.. so what should I do now to get that middle monitor working? |
| [19:28:00] | Kelerion: | want a current view of xorg.conf? |
| [19:29:00] | Kelerion: | http://pastebin.com/556413 |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, well, you need to disable big desktop and switch to xinerama |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, ati's big desktop doesn't support multiple gpu's |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, which is how mine is setup |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | minus the actual xinerama being enabled bit |
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| [19:31:00] | Jasper: | how can I bring up the dvd menu while watching a dvd? |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, you sure you can? I don't think menus work yet. |
| [19:31:00] | Kelerion: | I used aticonfig to get this xorg.conf.. so not sure how it's all done.. does the "DesktopSetup" "horizontal" define it as a big desktop? |
| [19:31:00] | Jasper: | kormoc they don't work yet? |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | Jasper, tis my understanding, aye |
| [19:32:00] | Jasper: | watching a dvd gives me 90% cpu usage |
| [19:32:00] | Jasper: | nice |
| [19:32:00] | Jasper: | :P |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, yup |
| [19:32:00] | Jasper: | bit high maybe |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, it's why I have two device sections for my single card, one for each head |
| [19:33:00] | Kelerion: | so.. comment out the DesktopSetup and add Xinerama to ServerFlags.. right? |
| [19:34:00] | Jasper: | how can you actually see if import dvd works? |
| [19:34:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, and add a second section for the card that had two heads. |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jasper, any idea what song/band was in those music video clips you posted the otherday ? :) |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wanna see the rest of it hehe |
| [19:34:00] | Kelerion: | the two-headed (pciE) card is the one it's using now.. so add a section for the onboard one? |
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| [19:35:00] | Juski: | if the band was on MTV, just wait 5 minutes & they'll be on again ;-) |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | TMF |
| [19:35:00] | jams: | yuck 200 new mod_rewrite rules. Gotta love when the marketing group changes things around. |
| [19:36:00] | Juski: | TMF: they repeat songs on the hour.. I recorded 3 hours of that channel here once to try to get some music I like... no dice.. same 7 songs |
| [19:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:36:00] | Kelerion: | okies..brb |
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| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have no idea what they are saying in the song, but I like the beat/music :) |
| [19:37:00] | Juski: | watch out world.. I'm looking at the mythtv source again |
| [19:37:00] | xris: | jams: for a second I thought you were complaining about the new mythweb |
| [19:37:00] | jams: | nope, just random work stuff |
| [19:37:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:39:00] | dev-: | cant wait to see new mythweb, i highly enjoyed .18 |
| [19:39:00] | dev-: | boxes are upgrading mythtv now :) |
| [19:39:00] | xris: | dev-: might have minor setup issues, but it's a nice change. |
| [19:40:00] | dev-: | no sweat i'll check out the readme as always ;) |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | next one should be even better. I didn't have time to update much of the toolbar this time around. |
| [19:40:00] | dev-: | i should read the changelog, but i really want to ask, can you modify myth config settings through it now? |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | not like you touch them after you get it setup to your likeing, but just curious ;) |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | ooh, one thing that would be sweet is being able to expire those previously recorded db entries from mythweb |
| [19:42:00] | dev-: | changelog here i come ;p |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | no, still only a handful of stuff like key bindings |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | settings stick much better now, though. I bound it to the authenticated user if there is one... |
| [19:43:00] | Juski: | what the??? webmin doesn't work anymore... |
| [19:43:00] | dev-: | has user login now? |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | dev-: no more than ever |
| [19:44:00] | dev-: | oh ok |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | I've always encouraged people to set up authentication, though |
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| [19:45:00] | dev-: | yeah, i have it htpasswd'd, got me thinking for a second there was accesscontrol, like readonly users, write, etc. that would be a bitch to implement though |
| [19:45:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | can anyone help me delete these damn vts_03_2.vob files? |
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| [19:46:00] | ** Juski has his apache server limited to only a few IP addresses ** | |
| [19:46:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. now am completely lost |
| [19:46:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, http://pastebin.com/556428 |
| [19:46:00] | jvs: | anybody running gentoo using a hauppauge pvr card? |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [19:46:00] | Kelerion: | now I have 1 and 3 clones.. nothing on 2 |
| [19:46:00] | jvs: | Juski, have you selected bt848 in the kernel? |
| [19:46:00] | Kelerion: | cloned..even |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | jvs: what?! |
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| [19:47:00] | jvs: | did you say 'yup' to my question? :) |
| [19:47:00] | Juski: | jvs: yes |
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| [19:47:00] | Juski: | I dunno if I have or not. it's a long time since I messed with the kernel on that box |
| [19:47:00] | Kelerion: | and tidied up the xorg.conf too to make things more explanatory |
| [19:47:00] | jvs: | Juski, I have some probs with ivtv |
| [19:47:00] | dev-: | pvr is not 848 ;p |
| [19:47:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, what's your xorg log say? |
| [19:47:00] | Juski: | I'll post my .config to a pastebin |
| [19:47:00] | jvs: | dev-, but otherwise ivtv wont emerge |
| [19:48:00] | dev-: | # CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 is not set |
| [19:48:00] | dev-: | i doubt thats the problem. |
| [19:48:00] | Kelerion: | http://pastebin.com/556430 |
| [19:49:00] | jvs: | dev-, thats what I though |
| [19:49:00] | jvs: | dev-, but then I get CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 is not set and the emerge terminates |
| [19:49:00] | dev-: | gentoo i take it? |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | jvs: www.juski.co.uk/config.txt |
| [19:49:00] | Kelerion: | I think I'm getting confused about what the "Screen" sections are for in xorg.conf |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | just build ivtv yerself – it's dead easy |
| [19:49:00] | marco_g: | In mythtv-setup in the video source setup screen, there is a "XMLTV listing grabber" called "Holland". |
| [19:50:00] | jvs: | Juski, I will |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | I didn't even bother trying to emerge it |
| [19:50:00] | marco_g: | This can better be called "the Netherlands". |
| [19:50:00] | jvs: | I did so the last time, will do this time too |
| [19:50:00] | marco_g: | Because Holland is just a part of the Netherlands. Where should I report this? |
| [19:50:00] | j-rod: | trac.mythtv.org |
| [19:50:00] | j-rod: | er, svn.mythtv.org |
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| [19:51:00] | jvs: | Juski, thanks |
| [19:51:00] | marco_g: | j-rod: That's for me? |
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| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | marco_g, yes |
| [19:53:00] | marco_g: | j-rod: Ok, thanks. :) |
| [19:53:00] | Kelerion: | brb |
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| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | yay, gm spec file fixed, now builds properly against kernel headers... |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | marco_g, np |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | can't believe how broken some of our sprms are... |
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| [19:58:00] | rjune: | j-rod: your howto uses atrpms right? |
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| [19:59:00] | j-rod: | yes |
| [19:59:00] | rjune: | aka, if Livna carries myth, would you be likely to mod the HOWTO? |
| [19:59:00] | Kelerion: | kormoc, http://pastebin.com/556446 latest xorg.conf and log |
| [19:59:00] | Jasper: | is it normal that different frequency's actually need different overscan settings? |
| [20:00:00] | j-rod: | probably not |
| [20:00:00] | ** Kelerion smells food ** | |
| [20:00:00] | j-rod: | too much work for too little benefit |
| [20:00:00] | j-rod: | I've been talking w/Axel though, and he's attempting to address the primary concern people seem to have w/ATrpms for FC5 |
| [20:01:00] | rjune: | he's making it extras compatible? |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | the repo will be split into addons and build-reqs |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | so there should be less stomping on each other |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | still working on full extras-compat |
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| [20:01:00] | rjune: | that would be nice |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | things should get smoother, since come March 6, I go to work for Red Hat. |
| [20:02:00] | Kelerion: | you just got a new job! lol |
| [20:02:00] | rjune: | congrats |
| [20:02:00] | rjune: | gonna try to get myth into extas? |
| [20:02:00] | j-rod: | no way in hell myth ever gets into extras |
| [20:02:00] | j-rod: | too many legal issues |
| [20:02:00] | j-rod: | (already been talked about internally) |
| [20:03:00] | j-rod: | main area of contention for RH is the use of ffmpeg |
| [20:03:00] | Chutt: | legal issues, schmegal issues |
| [20:03:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [20:03:00] | Chutt: | notice i don't distribute binaries. |
| [20:03:00] | j-rod: | that's what I tried to say, but those damned lawyers... |
| [20:03:00] | Chutt: | =) |
| [20:03:00] | dev-: | schmegal loves the precious |
| [20:04:00] | j-rod: | hell, there was even at least one person at RH who was concerned that they could get in legal trouble simply by hiring me, since I've been so involved w/myth |
| [20:04:00] | rjune: | legal with myth itself? or with codecs? |
| [20:04:00] | j-rod: | (which of course, is slightly retarded) :) |
| [20:05:00] | rjune: | so what do you get to do for RH? |
| [20:05:00] | j-rod: | codecs |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | rjune, codecs, mainly |
| [20:05:00] | Kelerion: | damn.. thats paranoid |
| [20:05:00] | j-rod: | nah, that's cya |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | but there's always the gemstar patent on displaying a program guide in a grid on a tv |
| [20:05:00] | rjune: | so then myth itself is ok, just push all the useful codes to livna |
| [20:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | arg where are the backgrounds stored? |
| [20:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i forget |
| [20:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | ls -a |
| [20:05:00] | j-rod: | in theory, I think something like an ogg-theora-only-myth could go into extras |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | cept theora sucks |
| [20:06:00] | j-rod: | though like Chutt said, the gemstar thing too |
| [20:06:00] | Kelerion: | display the guide in a sphere.. that'd screw up the legals :) |
| [20:06:00] | j-rod: | never really used theora |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | it's slow |
| [20:06:00] | rjune: | it's ok, not great |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | and the container format doesn't really work that well for live-broadcasts |
| [20:06:00] | rjune: | Chutt: hates it with a passion |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | same issue as avi |
| [20:06:00] | j-rod: | rjune, as to what I'll be doing, I'm joining the RHEL kernel team |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | they just dropped the ball on the whole theora thing |
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| [20:07:00] | Kelerion: | is the new bbc released format any good? promising? |
| [20:07:00] | rjune: | j-rod: congratulations |
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| [20:08:00] | rjune: | Vorbis sucked for a while too. |
| [20:08:00] | j-rod: | thank you much, lookin' forward to it, no doubt |
| [20:08:00] | ** j-rod goes off to check on myrinet driver builds... ** | |
| [20:08:00] | rjune: | well, I wound up getting involved more with SLES, so I don't use RedHat much anymore. |
| [20:08:00] | Kelerion: | SLES? |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [20:09:00] | j-rod: | I've been using a ton of SLES the past 9 months. |
| [20:09:00] | j-rod: | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server |
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| [20:09:00] | j-rod: | quite frankly, I hate it |
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| [20:09:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: DIRAC? might not see the light of day for a while til people pick up the development work |
| [20:09:00] | j-rod: | too much broken shit |
| [20:09:00] | Jasper: | juski when we talked about xvmc |
| [20:09:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. was hoping that was gonna be a slax thing.. that'd have been interesting.. :) |
| [20:10:00] | Jasper: | you said it was only on geforce4? |
| [20:10:00] | Juski: | Jasper: I said it wasn't on GF2 |
| [20:10:00] | Jasper: | I just looked on my videocard box ... it says enhanced motion compensation |
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| [20:10:00] | Jasper: | isn't that xvmc? |
| [20:10:00] | rjune: | SLES does some stuff right, some stuff wrong, just like RH |
| [20:10:00] | Juski: | oo the box says so, so that means that it's supported in Linux? |
| [20:10:00] | Juski: | ;-) |
| [20:10:00] | j-rod: | as of sp3, sles9 finally sucks a lot less |
| [20:10:00] | Jasper: | :p |
| [20:10:00] | Jasper: | was just wondering |
| [20:11:00] | Jasper: | I got a geforce2 gts |
| [20:11:00] | Jasper: | :P |
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| [20:11:00] | Juski: | maybe it'll work then |
| [20:11:00] | rjune: | I dislike the way they ship stuff non functional, because that's the way it was released |
| [20:11:00] | Juski: | definitely wont work on gefore2Ti crap like I've got in my spare box |
| [20:11:00] | j-rod: | yast online update is flat-out retarded |
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| [20:12:00] | rjune: | I dislike package management too |
| [20:12:00] | Kelerion: | Juski, thats a pity.. I think it'd be cool if an org the size of the bbc got behind an open source format like dirac.. about time they did something useful anyways.. :P |
| [20:12:00] | rjune: | LDAP works though, which is cool |
| [20:12:00] | malaTG: | hi everyone! Just installed the new mythgame and do I have to do something special in order to get the correct information like year genre etc to work for the snes games? |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | they do a decent job of making ldap easy to set up |
| [20:12:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: you mean apart from being a major mover in developing european digital TV, stereo sound, teletext... |
| [20:12:00] | Jasper: | hmm juski how can I find out if it's supported |
| [20:12:00] | Jasper: | ? |
| [20:13:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. apart from that :P |
| [20:13:00] | mchou: | hey, can someone with experience in usb drive enclosures recommend a good usb mobile rack? |
| [20:13:00] | Juski: | Jasper: try getting it to work. you'll soon know |
| [20:13:00] | ** Juski tries to install Authen::PAM again ** | |
| [20:13:00] | Jasper: | you mean just install it? |
| [20:13:00] | rjune: | PAM config is screwy |
| [20:14:00] | Juski: | Jasper: can you ask someone else? I'm tired :-P |
| [20:14:00] | Kelerion: | Juski, please tell me your not trying gentoo again |
| [20:14:00] | rjune: | and my jabber packages don't work with PAM on SLES for some reason |
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| [20:14:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: whaddya mean again? still on it.. |
| [20:14:00] | Juski: | just getting my webmin working again |
| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | time for the mpi stack... |
| [20:14:00] | Kelerion: | you had an ubuntu disk *in your hand*! I thought you were going with it! lol |
| [20:14:00] | Juski: | yeh.. then I fixed what was borked 5 mins later |
| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | I've got damned near everything integrated w/a RHEL4 ldap server on my home network |
| [20:15:00] | Kelerion: | glutton for punishment |
| [20:15:00] | j-rod: | samba pdc even, can join windows boxes to the domain and all that good stuff |
| [20:15:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: getting xmltv working in umbongo requires the same jumping though hoops iirc |
| [20:15:00] | j-rod: | crap, still need pgi, intel9 and pathscale compilers and their mpi stacks... |
| [20:16:00] | Kelerion: | huh? it was installed as part of "apt-get build-dep mythtv" and never worried about it since |
| [20:16:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: didn't work for me somehow |
| [20:16:00] | rjune: | SLES does File/Authentication server really well |
| [20:16:00] | Kelerion: | might be a dvb thing |
| [20:16:00] | Juski: | or at least wasn't in the howto I was following at the time |
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| [20:17:00] | Juski: | found the ebuild (yay).. Authen-PAM |
| [20:17:00] | j-rod: | try setting up ldap auth at any time other than install though, and it falls on its face |
| [20:17:00] | Kelerion: | now.. lirc in ubuntu.. thats a whole new beast to crack |
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| [20:17:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: should be easier than it was in Gentoo |
| [20:17:00] | Kelerion: | probably |
| [20:17:00] | j-rod: | had to jump through a ton of hoops to make ldap auth work when NOT set up at install time |
| [20:17:00] | Juski: | download source, configure, compile |
| [20:18:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | (but did manage it) |
| [20:18:00] | rjune: | we use it for term. servers |
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| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | its running on all the recent opteron clusters we've got here |
| [20:18:00] | Juski: | oh fack. PAM is borked |
| [20:18:00] | Kelerion: | ok – the smell of food is getting to me.. bbl.. |
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| [20:19:00] | j-rod: | mmm... food... |
| [20:19:00] | Juski: | oops... no it's not.. just now webmin doesn't want a secure connection.. shit |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | webmin?! |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | shame on you |
| [20:19:00] | j-rod: | mmc! |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | vi |
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| [20:19:00] | ** j-rod shudders ** | |
| [20:19:00] | rjune: | j-rod: sles is? or rhat? |
| [20:19:00] | drdaz: | whats wrong with webmin? |
| [20:19:00] | drdaz: | oO |
| [20:20:00] | j-rod: | sles9 on all recent clusters |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | quite often it becomes a gaping security hole |
| [20:20:00] | drdaz: | really? |
| [20:20:00] | Juski: | well at least I don't have to worry about anyone logging in & changing stuff. I can't even log in |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | that's what's wrong with it :) |
| [20:20:00] | ** drdaz panics ** | |
| [20:20:00] | rjune: | LOL |
| [20:20:00] | Cardoe: | and by gaping |
| [20:20:00] | Cardoe: | I mean |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: yeah that sucks |
| [20:20:00] | rjune: | you mean goatse |
| [20:20:00] | Cardoe: | rjune: ha |
| [20:20:00] | Juski: | well, it's hidden behind a nice firewall here |
| [20:20:00] | Cardoe: | best answer |
| [20:20:00] | drdaz: | lol |
| [20:21:00] | malaTG: | do I have to do something special in order for mythgame to collect metadata about the game? |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | feed it blueberries |
| [20:22:00] | j-rod: | man I have such a bad case of short-timers right now... |
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| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | malaTG: What version ? |
| [20:23:00] | malaTG: | 0.19 |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Load the romdb data |
| [20:24:00] | malaTG: | how? |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is a file that comes with the source |
| [20:24:00] | malaTG: | okey have installed a binary |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | cat file.sql | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [20:24:00] | rjune: | time to get new clocks then eh? |
| [20:24:00] | malaTG: | ok thx |
| [20:25:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: you use that to put data into all your TV episodes, ya? |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: No, that was for mythgame rom data |
| [20:26:00] | rjune: | I know tjt |
| [20:26:00] | rjune: | gah |
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| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then what are you asking me then:) |
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| [20:26:00] | rjune: | I hate when my fingers are off by one key |
| [20:27:00] | xpis: | Does anyone successfully use the mythstreamtv videolan interface? |
| [20:27:00] | rjune: | I use the same thing to add description to TV shows |
| [20:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oh |
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| [20:28:00] | Juski: | there we go.. back online |
| [20:28:00] | glen: | hello. somewhy i hear only left channel in myth. i don't know what changed. it's not cable problem because if i switch on line in i hear both channels |
| [20:29:00] | glen: | and if i hit mute button i'm able to hear from right channel at some point |
| [20:29:00] | j-rod: | one problem w/suse is that they ship way too much crap |
| [20:29:00] | j-rod: | 7 CDs for sles10 beta 3? |
| [20:30:00] | glen: | there was somewhere setting where i could set mute options for channels, any ideas where it was? |
| [20:31:00] | glen: | was it mythtv-settings or frontend settings? |
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| [20:31:00] | rjune: | yup |
| [20:31:00] | rjune: | up from 6 for sles9 |
| [20:32:00] | j-rod: | I know, there's a set on my desk right now. :) |
| [20:32:00] | rjune: | 9 for OES |
| [20:33:00] | rjune: | though I have to wonder, *why* does a server care about NVIDIA drivers? |
| [20:33:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [20:33:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey guys.. can i get some help? everything i have learned so far i have been writting down.. how do i create a script so all i do is run it and it sets up my comp? like just console commands |
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| [20:33:00] | j-rod: | and why do you need 18 different programs that do the same thing? |
| [20:34:00] | j-rod: | (and occasionally conflict with one another) |
| [20:34:00] | rjune: | come on now, RH does that too |
| [20:34:00] | rjune: | though the apache-prefork and apache-whatever is irritationg |
| [20:34:00] | j-rod: | if you do an 'everything' install w/rh, you get everything |
| [20:34:00] | j-rod: | there's a sensible 'alternatives' system to switch from one mta to another |
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| [20:35:00] | j-rod: | (that may be in sles too, bad example) |
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| [20:35:00] | j-rod: | but providing packages that Provides: the same files is BAD |
| [20:35:00] | j-rod: | which suse does |
| [20:35:00] | j-rod: | and rh does no |
| [20:35:00] | j-rod: | t |
| [20:36:00] | j-rod: | I do like the fact that suse defaults to postfix. Can't stand sendmail, and RH still insists on shipping it as the default |
| [20:36:00] | j-rod: | enough ranting |
| [20:36:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [20:37:00] | j-rod: | gotta run, bbl... |
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| [20:37:00] | naetrick: | Hey guys, when I try to run "/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start" I get: "Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed" |
| [20:39:00] | Juski: | http://www.pvrguide.no-ip.com/bbs-old/viewtopic.php?p=99697&n bsp;– 1st hit in google |
| [20:40:00] | bazil: | dev .. u still here ? |
| [20:41:00] | rjune: | harumph. sendmail works just fine |
| [20:42:00] | bazil: | ive tryed installing mythstreamtv .. and succeded .... but when i run the stream from the webpage nothing happends .. and ps aux makes a note that something called DEFAULT_VHOST -D is running but i cant see if there is anything wrong |
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| [20:43:00] | malaTG: | GreyFoxx: I did what you wrote but all my years and genres on snes games are unknown |
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| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | Oh YAY, here comes the headache |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | did I not have enough coffee today? |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | blame it on the sinusses ;) |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | nah, this is caffeine, I think |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | fcuk |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | addiction is stoooopid ;) |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | says the smoker |
| [20:52:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: blame it on lack of sex, tell your other you need medicinal love |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | not much she can do about it from thousands of miles away |
| [20:53:00] | rjune: | yeah, talk dirty to you is about the best you'll get |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | that's what you get for not using windows. netmeeting gets installed by default there :) |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | I'll survive |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | but first... I need coffee |
| [20:54:00] | dev-: | why would ivtv require bt848 be set in kernel when you're useing pvr250's... hrm |
| [20:54:00] | dev-: | friggin 2.6.15 |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | tuner.o |
| [20:55:00] | dev-: | hrm. |
| [20:55:00] | rjune: | laga: gnomemeeting works too |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | .ko ;) |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | same thing |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | .fo for all I care |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | rjune: oh, nice. :) |
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| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | hey, I should make my plugins for the bot be .fo |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, BRB, getting caffeinated |
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| [21:01:00] | queuetue: | Hi. Is mythtv a good choice for a video and audio jukebox, instead of a tivo-like PVR? Are there better choices? |
| [21:02:00] | rjune: | Video jukebox? not so much, Audio Jukebox, works well |
| [21:03:00] | rjune: | well, I suppose as long as you don't care about it starting videos automatically it's not bad. |
| [21:03:00] | dev-: | i dont knwo if id call tivo a video jukebox, you cant write your own avi's to that can you? |
| [21:03:00] | naetrick: | why might I be getting an "Unable to initialize video" error when trying to watch LiveTV? Permissions? I'm running mythtv as root, though, to try and see if that was the problem |
| [21:04:00] | rjune: | driver not loaded? |
| [21:04:00] | queuetue: | Oh, sorry – not jukebox in the "automatic" sense – just a simple, remote-controllable player. :) |
| [21:05:00] | rjune: | then myth would probably work well |
| [21:05:00] | naetrick: | rjune: It's loaded, I can record with gorecord |
| [21:05:00] | queuetue: | dev-: No, I wouldn't. I said INSTEAD of a tivo. :) |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | there. 20oz of coffee |
| [21:06:00] | queuetue: | rjune: Does mythtv let me navigate directories? If I have series folders under a show folder, for instance. |
| [21:06:00] | rjune: | you cand do that |
| [21:06:00] | rjune: | can do that |
| [21:06:00] | dev-: | im quite happy with myth, been useing it about a year now. have 2 machines dedicated to it now heh. several frontends, one of them being a laptop over 802.11g so i can watch tv in the garage, etc.. myth can do lots of things tivo cant |
| [21:07:00] | queuetue: | rjune: Ok, thank you. |
| [21:07:00] | dev-: | commercialflagging being my numero-uno-favoriteo-functiono |
| [21:07:00] | queuetue: | dev-: Again, I have no desire for a tivo – I don't even have cable. :) |
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| [21:07:00] | queuetue: | Is there an offical myth distro, or would just running it on Ubuntu be as good as any other distribution? |
| [21:08:00] | dev-: | no, myth is just a client/server app, it will run on any linux os. |
| [21:08:00] | rjune: | no official distro |
| [21:08:00] | queuetue: | rjune: Ok, thank you again. |
| [21:08:00] | dev-: | http://mythtv.org for more information |
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| [21:11:00] | queuetue: | Is the pvr 350 a good choice for hardware? (Potential recording, but mostly for remote control.) |
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| [21:12:00] | kormoc: | queuetue, you'd be better with a pvr 150 |
| [21:14:00] | D-side: | hrm. |
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| [21:15:00] | xris: | I love spams that start with stuff like "Dear ##first name##" |
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| [21:15:00] | xris: | queuetue: only buy the 350 if you need its tv-out capability |
| [21:15:00] | D-side: | i laughed out loud at one i got the other day. |
| [21:15:00] | D-side: | "shy t0 fcuk with y0ur sh0rt gun" |
| [21:16:00] | queuetue: | Is the 350's tv-out going to gain me anything over an nvidia tv-out? (Going into composite switchbox into old rf converter to 27" tv) |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | queuetue: only real reason you want the tv-out is if your computer can't handle mpeg decoding |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | if you're going to rf, the quality is going to suck no matter what. |
| [21:17:00] | D-side: | i imagine that might be useful for itx stuff. |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | get a 150.. retail version with microsoft's mce remote if you want a good remote. |
| [21:17:00] | queuetue: | xris: Current computer is a hefty Athlon64 – next computer to get the card may be an EPIA based silent machine. Will those two (the epia in particular) handle decoding? |
| [21:17:00] | D-side: | i've never gotten the unichrome stuff to go |
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| [21:17:00] | xris: | queuetue: many epias have hardware decoding |
| [21:17:00] | queuetue: | xris: The 8000? |
| [21:18:00] | xris: | and even without, they should be fine for SD |
| [21:18:00] | xris: | 500mhz should be plenty for sd |
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| [21:18:00] | queuetue: | Ok. Thanks once again. |
| [21:18:00] | D-side: | so, if i've got a 0.18.1 db that i want to dump to a new 0.19 machine, what docs do i need to read? |
| [21:19:00] | queuetue: | Wow, with how much I'll save getting the 150 instead of the , I could buy a second one. :) |
| [21:19:00] | xris: | D-side: man mysqldump |
| [21:19:00] | Pitchin_uk: | my mythfilldatabase isn't working |
| [21:19:00] | xris: | queuetue: that's the other reason |
| [21:20:00] | naetrick: | could this be the problem: "VIDIOC_S_CTRL:V4L2_CID_AUDIO_MUTE: Invalid argument" << I get that when trying to watch LiveTV |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | MCE version of the 150 (no remote) is only like $60 |
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| [21:20:00] | D-side: | xris: well no, what i meant was is there any scheme changes that are going to be a problem with taking an older db and dumping it into a virgin 0.19 |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | D-side: myth will handle the update |
| [21:21:00] | D-side: | thats what i wanted to hear. thanks. |
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| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | D-side: I upgraded the mythbox at work here today... apt-get install and restart the backend. not a hint of trouble. |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | I have nearly a DVD-full of WMA encoded ripped CDs on this work laptop |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | no wonder D: is so full |
| [21:23:00] | queuetue: | xris: Can you recommend a vendor? I don't see them that cheap. |
| [21:23:00] | D-side: | xris: excellent. i'm migrating from a xen vm to a physical machine. |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | queuetue: I got mine at buy.com with a coupon |
| [21:23:00] | queuetue: | xris: (I'm in Quebec, but will probably order from US) |
| [21:23:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: any reason for wma? |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | because WMP is part of the corporate image |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | queuetue: amazon should have them, too. mce vs retail version. retail is around $100. |
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| [21:24:00] | queuetue: | xris: Ok, that's what I'm seeing. I misread what you got for the 60. |
| [21:25:00] | xris: | sorry for the confusion. I already had a remote. |
| [21:25:00] | xris: | and then randomly ended up getting an mce remote recently, anyway (which is good because it's a nicer remote than I had) |
| [21:27:00] | D-side: | i might want one also. i'm getting a little tired of the xbmc frontend, even though the output quality is great |
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| [21:28:00] | Mobleman: | D |
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| [21:31:00] | k-man: | how good is the xbox as a mythtv fe? |
| [21:32:00] | xris: | D-side: xvmc didn't work so well for me |
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| [21:32:00] | xris: | k-man: won't do hd, but I hear it's decent for other stuff |
| [21:32:00] | k-man: | so just as a front end its pretty good? |
| [21:32:00] | k-man: | i already have a machine that opperates as my backend |
| [21:32:00] | k-man: | what do you mean by hd? high definition? |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | yes |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | processor isn't fast enough to do HD |
| [21:33:00] | k-man: | oh |
| [21:33:00] | k-man: | ok |
| [21:34:00] | Pitchin_uk: | which is the best user to start the mythbackend service? |
| [21:34:00] | Pitchin_uk: | root or the user i ran the setup as?? |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: I prefer to use root.. but that's just how my distro does. |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | the latter |
| [21:34:00] | k-man: | you can get an xbox in australia for around $150-$200 now |
| [21:34:00] | k-man: | not bad for a front end |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | if you ran the setup as a user, run as that user |
| [21:34:00] | k-man: | is it difficult to install linux on an xbox? |
| [21:34:00] | dev-: | hrm viewing recorded programs seems much slower in the new version of mythweb |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | I personally use root too |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: it doesn't really matter, though. as long as the user has access to the the video devices, you're fine |
| [21:34:00] | k-man: | i mean, do you have to hack the hardware to do it? |
| [21:35:00] | D-side: | xris: sorry, you mean xbmc on an xbox? |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | running as root gives you access to realtime priority threading, which is nice. |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | D-side: sorry, thought you mistyped xvmc (as in nvndia) |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | well, so does running suid root, no? |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yes. |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | but running as random-tv-user won't. |
| [21:35:00] | dev-: | xris why is viewing recorded programs so much slower now :) |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:35:00] | dev-: | i was hoping it'd be faster if anything ;) |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | k-man: yes and no. I think there are some games that you can break into console mode in and make it boot linux |
| [21:36:00] | k-man: | xris, but you need to have one of those games |
| [21:36:00] | D-side: | k-man: i didnt isntall linux on the xbox, i use the xbox media center app that runs without installing linux |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | k-man: yup |
| [21:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | devel: What do you mean by slower? What exactly is "slower" ? |
| [21:36:00] | D-side: | you need an action replay usb thing too. |
| [21:36:00] | k-man: | interesting |
| [21:37:00] | k-man: | d-side, what does that do |
| [21:37:00] | dev-: | nice, mythweb crashed mythbackend heh |
| [21:37:00] | k-man: | ? |
| [21:37:00] | Niklas_E: | when you are gonna use a dvb-s card which tv card should you use? dtv? |
| [21:37:00] | D-side: | k-man: xboxmediacenter.com will tell you all about it. and btw, my xbox IS hacked. i've got a modchip in it. |
| [21:37:00] | Pitchin_uk: | ok cool |
| [21:37:00] | D-side: | it made it bearable to upgrade the hard drive. |
| [21:38:00] | k-man: | ok, thanks |
| [21:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | is there a command for actuall stopping a service |
| [21:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | and obviously starting it? |
| [21:38:00] | k-man: | Pitchin_uk, depends on your distro |
| [21:38:00] | k-man: | which distro? |
| [21:38:00] | Pitchin_uk: | suse |
| [21:38:00] | D-side: | you can do as xris suggested with an AR dongle and an exploitable game, but i dont think its a great idea. |
| [21:38:00] | queuetue: | Actually, can mythfrontend be run on a ps2? |
| [21:39:00] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: can you use the atrpms packages? |
| [21:39:00] | Pitchin_uk: | i ont know what they are? |
| [21:39:00] | k-man: | D-side, do what's the best way in your opinion? |
| [21:39:00] | xris: | Pitchin_uk: atrpms.net |
| [21:39:00] | Chutt: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ad . . . mp;rcid=4878 |
| [21:40:00] | Chutt: | is pretty goddamn hilarious |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | I know he tries to make them friendly to all rpm-based distros. |
| [21:40:00] | D-side: | kavorka: eh. |
| [21:40:00] | D-side: | er, misfire. |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | Chutt: you'er too funny. ;) |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt: nice fix :) |
| [21:41:00] | Chutt: | i didn't do it |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | Chutt: hehe |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah, but you pointed it out. heh |
| [21:41:00] | Chutt: | that was more to beirdo |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I didn't mean YOU did it, but gotta love the comment :) |
| [21:43:00] | naetrick: | I keep getting the error "Unable to initialize video" when trying to watch live TV. Here are the messages dumped to console when that happens: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MplzNv25.html |
| [21:43:00] | naetrick: | How should I fix it? |
| [21:43:00] | dev-: | so new ver of mythweb regens all the preview pngs even if they exist eh. |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | note to all: beware calling others morons then making a typo |
| [21:43:00] | queuetue: | Looks like no mythfrontend on PS2? |
| [21:43:00] | dev-: | Beirdo: lol |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | dev-: it regens them if the recordings have been altered since it last grabbed them |
| [21:43:00] | Chutt: | naetrick, your kernel is broken. |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | queuetue: dunno if anyone has tried |
| [21:44:00] | naetrick: | chutt: How so? I can record video with my driver's bundled app, gorecord, just fine |
| [21:44:00] | dev-: | xris: none of them were altered, but all the timestamps show they were rengerated on the first load of recorded programs.. (which crashed mythbackend for some reason).. restarted mythbackend, went to recorded programs again, and it went through and didnt crash.. hope .19 is stable hehe |
| [21:44:00] | dev-: | .18 was very stable. had months of uptime, though memory leakage on frontend |
| [21:44:00] | naetrick: | Maybe a setting is incorrect? |
| [21:44:00] | Chutt: | naetrick, you seem to have shared memory disabled. |
| [21:45:00] | Chutt: | xris, we need a better 'recording was altered' check |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | dev-: it's been very stable for me... I haven't had backend crashes since like .16, though |
| [21:45:00] | Chutt: | since currently it's a timestamp |
| [21:45:00] | Chutt: | so, er, watching the video modifies the record :p |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | Chutt: oh.. timestamp field. yeah, that's not great |
| [21:45:00] | rjune: | funny, I had crashing probs with mythmusic and .18 |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | I'm in favor of just using ints... can do nice math with them, and then they're in php's native time format. |
| [21:46:00] | naetrick: | Chutt: Hmm... how would I enable it? Where is the kernel option |
| [21:46:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
| [21:46:00] | Chutt: | you disabled it, though |
| [21:46:00] | naetrick: | chutt: Well... would that be causing the problem? |
| [21:46:00] | Chutt: | err, yes? |
| [21:47:00] | Pitchin_uk: | can someone lend me a hand im having probs with my mythfilldatabase |
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| [21:48:00] | Pitchin_uk: | and i dont like the idea of populating the db myself |
| [21:48:00] | naetrick: | Chutt: Would it be TINY_SHMEM? |
| [21:48:00] | Chutt: | i have no idea. |
| [21:49:00] | jvs: | hmm...anybody knows this: livetv on pvr-250 goes fast, then slow, then hangs, then again fast....(ivtv-0.4.2) |
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| [22:00:00] | naetrick: | Chutt: Well, I have SHMEM enabled in my kernel... |
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| [22:09:00] | psxpaul: | hey, does anyone else have a problem of livetv freezing at the end of a program? |
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| [22:10:00] | Agrajag-: | yes |
| [22:10:00] | dev-: | freezing? |
| [22:11:00] | Agrajag-: | i have 2 frontends. it only freezes on my diskless remote one, the frontend that's on the same machine as the backend has no problems |
| [22:11:00] | psxpaul: | yeah, the frontend has an error, something like, "Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times." |
| [22:11:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [22:11:00] | dev-: | freeze like dies, or freeze like a hicup then comes back? |
| [22:11:00] | psxpaul: | it says that continually until I escape to the menu |
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| [22:11:00] | dev-: | ugh |
| [22:11:00] | dev-: | as im upgrading to .19 ;/ heh |
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| [22:12:00] | psxpaul: | I found a post about it on one of the mailing lists, but it was from some old SVN version |
| [22:12:00] | rjune: | there is a way to migrate the db from .18 to .19 ya? |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [22:12:00] | Agrajag-: | psxpaul: nah there's a thread about it now |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | run 0.19 backend |
| [22:12:00] | psxpaul: | link? |
| [22:12:00] | Agrajag-: | waiting |
| [22:12:00] | Agrajag-: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/182363 |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | there is no way to migrate back though, so take a dump of the db first just in case |
| [22:13:00] | rjune: | ah, cool |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | psxpaul: is your frontend on the same machine as the backend or remote? |
| [22:14:00] | psxpaul: | yes |
| [22:14:00] | psxpaul: | local storage too, but different drive |
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| [22:15:00] | azap: | does anyone else's mythgame not load at all? not even the menu/interface? 0.18 |
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| [22:17:00] | psxpaul: | I haven't setup mythgame since the upgrade, but the interface works for me |
| [22:17:00] | psxpaul: | its not listing any of my ROMs, so I probably just have to scan the directory again or something |
| [22:17:00] | azap: | yeah its pretty weird, when i select play games, it just cuts the video or something, i have to restart X |
| [22:19:00] | Jasper: | is it normal that different channels need different overscan to fix black edges? |
| [22:19:00] | Juski: | no, just set overscan to cover all of em |
| [22:20:00] | dev-: | doh those ivtv people did what they said they were going to do, and removed options tuner type= |
| [22:20:00] | dev-: | need to figure out the 'new way' heh |
| [22:20:00] | dev-: | my first 2 pvr250's tuner types arent detected |
| [22:20:00] | psxpaul: | isn't it just tuner= ? |
| [22:21:00] | dev-: | thats what i just tried, remodprobinhg heh |
| [22:21:00] | dev-: | found an old entry in messages |
| [22:21:00] | dev-: | nope, guess it isnt |
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| [22:23:00] | Jusk1: | Jasper – 5% overscan should hide most things.. most TVs overscan by at least 5% anyway |
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| [22:26:00] | dagfinnrr: | if i install the new rpms from atrpms.net for 0.19, will it overwrite my settings then? or just update the program and keep the old |
| [22:26:00] | squish102: | atrpms has 0.19 already? |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | the settings are in the database mostly |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | other than how to get at the database |
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| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | and you can always list the files in the RPM if you are worried |
| [22:27:00] | Agrajag-: | does anyone know if there is a fix for the live tv freeze problem, if it will go into release-0-19-fixes ? |
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| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | Agrajag-: what kinda filesystem is your recording spool on? |
| [22:29:00] | Agrajag-: | Beirdo: ext3 (doing lvm). it only happens on a remote diskless frontend (over nfs). my other local frontend doesn't have the same problem |
| [22:29:00] | macroexp: | grr... my machine refuses to record properly from my pvr350's svideo in |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | ewww |
| [22:29:00] | psxpaul: | I have the same problem, and mine is on xfs |
| [22:29:00] | macroexp: | livetv works fine |
| [22:29:00] | dagfinnrr: | squish102, yeah seems like they do |
| [22:29:00] | psxpaul: | local machine only |
| [22:29:00] | macroexp: | recordings end up with no .mpg file |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | OK, ext3 is a bad choice when deleting large files |
| [22:30:00] | dagfinnrr: | squish102, http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/mythtv/ |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | that may not be at all related to the problem though |
| [22:30:00] | Agrajag-: | i haven't had any problems with that. and i don't think that's related |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | I have a simple solution for you :) |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | don't use live tv |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:31:00] | Juski: | just aswell I won't be using livetv much then... you can't just convert between FS types easily (or can you?) |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | depends if you have the drive space |
| [22:31:00] | Agrajag-: | i don't use livetv.. but my mum does |
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| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | carve out a new logical volume for a new FS, move stuff over, etc... it's not that hard, Juski :) |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | well, it might be good to see if there are bug reports in, etc. |
| [22:32:00] | Juski: | have to get up to speed with lvm then |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | I never use live tv, personally |
| [22:32:00] | ** Freman grins, I can't record 3 things simultaniously and watch anything (c: ** | |
| [22:32:00] | kristok: | anyone in here running a Turion in a desktop? |
| [22:32:00] | Juski: | actually lvm would help me out quite a bit sometimes |
| [22:32:00] | macroexp: | some of my schedules are borked after upgrade to 0.19 too... it's now trying to record my wife's soap 3 times a day! aak! |
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| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | LVM is great... unless a disk under it fails and takes out the whole LVM setup |
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| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | LVM over RAID is ideal :) |
| [22:33:00] | Freman: | but raid requires more disks then I've got (c: |
| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well, then you run the risk... |
| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | just like I am :) |
| [22:34:00] | Freman: | oh well, if it breaks, and I miss something... there are other methods (c: |
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| [22:36:00] | Juski: | I changed channels on my cable box to do a test recording yesterday, thinking it'd be okay cos myth would change it back to record a show.. wrong |
| [22:37:00] | Juski: | didn't know that it keeps track of the last channel recorded.. but I do now ;) |
| [22:38:00] | Juski: | if only decent RAID controllers didn't cost so much money .. I'd go for raid5 in a flash |
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| [22:43:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | hey what does everyone sugest for gamepad's for mythtv? |
| [22:46:00] | ** Gumby bangs his head on his desk ** | |
| [22:46:00] | dev-: | i dont think i should have upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15 |
| [22:46:00] | Gumby: | I am unable to get my soundcard to properly record line in |
| [22:46:00] | dev-: | too many changes and things are broke ;/ |
| [22:47:00] | Juski: | dev: just downgrade it then |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | i fixed most except the nvidia driver, which hangs x on start |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | trying one more thing before i reload 2.6.14 heh |
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| [22:47:00] | Juski: | hmm lvm doesn't seem so hard to set up – might give it a go one day soon |
| [22:48:00] | Gumby: | can someone check something in alsamixer for me, does the line-in have a slider bar or is it blank? |
| [22:48:00] | Juski: | has a slider here |
| [22:48:00] | Juski: | depends on the alsa driver because no 2 soundcards are the same I reckon |
| [22:48:00] | Gumby: | hrm, maybe thats my issue. Mine doesnt have a slider so all the sound that is recorded is too low |
| [22:49:00] | Juski: | Gumby: my DVB recordings are very quiet compared to my mp3 collection |
| [22:49:00] | Juski: | most TV is |
| [22:49:00] | Juski: | you need a degree of 'headroom' anyway – IMHO there's little worse than distorted sound |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | OK, home time... |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | home to busted DSL |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | GOD I hate Bell Canada |
| [22:50:00] | Juski: | that's something I keep meaning to check – whether mythmusic remembers the volume setting each time you go in |
| [22:51:00] | Juski: | Beirdo – still off? I'd hate to be in a call centre when you ring them next |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, I don't deal with them directly (lucky them) |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | my ISP is bitching them out though |
| [22:52:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | that reminds me, should call THEM to see if there's an ETA yet |
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| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | will be a week at 10am tomorrow |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | f'ing telcos |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, seeya tomorrow |
| [22:53:00] | Juski: | aye.. have a fun evening |
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| [22:53:00] | squish102: | man i dont feel comfortable with knoppmyth, i have to try again to get FC4 and mythtv running :( |
| [22:54:00] | jvs: | squish102, whats your problem with knoppmyth? |
| [22:54:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | squish |
| [22:54:00] | squish102: | as my only linux server running, and new to debian |
| [22:55:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | squish follow my guide |
| [22:55:00] | squish102: | i am much more comfortable in FC4 |
| [22:55:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | for knoppmyth |
| [22:55:00] | squish102: | the knoppmyth works perfectly |
| [22:55:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | so the problem? |
| [22:55:00] | squish102: | that is the reason i have it running, but now i am moving all my stuff from fc4 over |
| [22:56:00] | squish102: | and having to increase /home (which i have done) and setting up alot of stuff |
| [22:57:00] | squish102: | and i'm so scared that something installes the latest ffmpeg, that then screws up nuvexport |
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| [22:57:00] | Gumby: | ok, suggestions anyone. I have a bttv card, when speakers plugged into audio out on tuner audio is loud and crisp. when audio out plugged into line in on sound card I have VERY low sound. alsamixer has line @ 100% and toggled for capture and is unmuted. |
| [22:58:00] | squish102: | Gumby i have had 2 bttv cards, could get none of them to come even close to reasonable sound |
| [22:59:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | can someone please help me delete files in cdrom/video_tx/video_ts.bup |
| [22:59:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | ? |
| [22:59:00] | squish102: | gave up and bought a pvr 150... much better and not that expensive |
| [22:59:00] | Juski: | bttv cards are 1) more hassle than they're worth for their cheapness and 2) see 1 |
| [22:59:00] | Gumby: | squish102: Ive gotten this, and one other card working just fine. |
| [22:59:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | ^^ i got a pvr |
| [22:59:00] | squish102: | Juski, i agree |
| [22:59:00] | Gumby: | it seems that debian is the only distro they work well in. lol |
| [22:59:00] | dev-: | heh the ivtv faq on their site is out of date |
| [22:59:00] | dev-: | the option they state for setting tuner type does not work anymore |
| [23:00:00] | Juski: | I got one working on ubuntu really easily, but it was craptacular quality |
| [23:00:00] | dev-: | i <3 old docs |
| [23:00:00] | Juski: | bought a pvr150 & never looked back |
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| [23:01:00] | Juski: | if you need any convincing, this is a clip recorded from the composite input at the default bitrate: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/videos/juski.mpg |
| [23:02:00] | Juski: | spend an extra $20 – $30, save yourself hours of farting around ;-) |
| [23:02:00] | squish102: | Juski amen |
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| [23:05:00] | Juski: | you can allegedly get better quality with an ATI theater chip, but they're not working in linux yet :-P |
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| [23:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | someone please help me delete "read-only file system |
| [23:05:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | arg =\ |
| [23:06:00] | Juski: | messy dismount? oops |
| [23:06:00] | dtm: | Yellow-Snow2: someone already did. you need to get off your lazy ass, read a book on linux, or get to #linuxhelp. kthx |
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| [23:06:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | lol dtm relax tiger.. i have searched kid so grow up |
| [23:07:00] | dtm: | Yellow-Snow2: i'm not the one who's a disgrace to the concept of higher learning. someone already explained everything to you. you grow up. |
| [23:07:00] | Juski: | searched? need to do some _finding_ then ;-) |
| [23:07:00] | dtm: | if my taxes are in any way funding your college experience, i want a cash refund out of your pocket |
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| [23:08:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | oh funding and im making a profit |
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| [23:09:00] | dtm: | i don't care if it's $0.12 every time you walk underneath a federally-funds-constructed doorway |
| [23:11:00] | Yellow-Snow: | when was the last time you got laid? |
| [23:11:00] | glen: | i have only left channel hearable in myth 0.19. any ideas? |
| [23:11:00] | Juski: | glen – your soundcard only has a mono audio output socket? |
| [23:11:00] | dtm: | glen: does it work with other apps? |
| [23:11:00] | dtm: | glen: is your mixer partially muted |
| [23:11:00] | glen: | it works elsewhere, and it worked earlier |
| [23:12:00] | dtm: | it worked with mythtv 0.18.1? |
| [23:12:00] | dtm: | glen: any output to dmesg? |
| [23:12:00] | glen: | i mean if i unmute line-in (so that i hear diretly from line in, i hear both) |
| [23:12:00] | Juski: | ahhh... |
| [23:12:00] | glen: | i'm not sure about version, i ran earlier svn rev, but perhaps the same version |
| [23:12:00] | dtm: | oic |
| [23:12:00] | Juski: | mythtv has individual channel mutes though doesn't it? |
| [23:13:00] | glen: | i tried that too, didn't help |
| [23:13:00] | glen: | in fact if i enabled that option i was able to switch the single channel listening to the other speaker ;) |
| [23:13:00] | dtm: | glen: i'm confused by unmuting line-in. what's that got to do with this? do you have your tv input plugged into line in? |
| [23:13:00] | glen: | and the problem is not with playback, because if i exported with nuvexport there's also only single channel (err, right one) |
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| [23:14:00] | dtm: | glen: you're saying you can view the same tv source using another app in stereo? |
| [23:14:00] | glen: | dtm yes, tv input is in line-in |
| [23:14:00] | Juski: | dtm: maybe erm... recording mixer balance? |
| [23:14:00] | dtm: | glen: so then why do you have line-in muted? and if you got it to work by unmuting it, then what's the problem? |
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| [23:14:00] | glen: | dtm well, the other apps use it directly, or just i hear it directly |
| [23:14:00] | Juski: | dtm: you need to mute line in if you use framegrabbers |
| [23:14:00] | dtm: | :-. |
| [23:14:00] | glen: | dtm: if i unmute it, it will repeat with echo |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | mute it in playback but enable it for recording |
| [23:15:00] | dtm: | glen: oh you're saying it works, with an echo, if you unmute the playback. |
| [23:15:00] | glen: | for myth only "record" switch must be on |
| [23:15:00] | dtm: | glen: but your recording channels are always unmuted |
| [23:15:00] | glen: | dtm no.. wait... |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | glen knows the score ;) |
| [23:16:00] | glen: | in mixer there are two "buttons" for line in: "record" and "mute" |
| [23:16:00] | dtm: | kthx |
| [23:16:00] | dtm: | never mind then ^_^ |
| [23:16:00] | glen: | record is what myth uses, mute is what i hear directly |
| [23:16:00] | glen: | hard to explain so i explain it this simple way |
| [23:18:00] | glen: | maybe i should check with sox by reading the line in? |
| [23:18:00] | glen: | because xawtv and kdetv don't really use line in, they just unmute tv card output (whcih is connected to linein) |
| [23:19:00] | dev-: | why the hell cant i find docs on how to set the tuner type manually "the new way" anyway |
| [23:19:00] | dev-: | anymore |
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| [23:20:00] | glen: | is there any app that read /dev/dsp same way as mythtv does? |
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| [23:21:00] | Juski: | glen – yeh... linux sound recorder type apps |
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| [23:23:00] | neodraco: | hi, i'm testing 0.19, live-tv works ok, and I can see live-tv recorded streams, but automated records are broken. if I try to play a recorded show, it says that the file doesn't exists... I've searched for related tickets but found nothing relevant. anyone knows what is failing? |
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| [23:26:00] | xris: | neodraco: could be a permissions issue |
| [23:27:00] | dev-: | going from .18 to .19 has been nothing but a hassle :P |
| [23:27:00] | dev-: | i doubt its even worth upgrading heh |
| [23:27:00] | glen: | ok, with 'rec -d /dev/dsp foo.wav' hear both channels (shitty qualty but stll) |
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| [23:28:00] | neodraco: | yeah, i was thinking the same, however the directory where the records are stored are owned by mythtv:users and is chmodded 777 |
| [23:28:00] | neodraco: | in fact, livetv records are stored there without any problem |
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| [23:29:00] | glen: | neodraco: do you mean your old recordings? |
| [23:29:00] | glen: | from pre 0.19 times |
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| [23:29:00] | AngryElf: | Hey all, I know a while back I found somebody that was selling serial IR recivers......does anyone have the link? |
| [23:29:00] | neodraco: | no no, i deleted everything |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | neodraco: but did you keep the DB in place? |
| [23:29:00] | xris: | AngryElf: receivers? I only know about irblaster.info that sells transmitters |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | AngryElf: google. google |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | can get a nice receiver attached to the mce remote, though. |
| [23:30:00] | neodraco: | yes, i upgraded the db from 0.18.1 |
| [23:30:00] | AngryElf: | thanx juski |
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| [23:30:00] | AngryElf: | xris yea, receivers |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | neodraco: but you deleted the files from the old recordings? |
| [23:30:00] | AngryElf: | i found somebody that's selling them out of europe |
| [23:30:00] | AngryElf: | but i'm in the us and didn't want to bother with that |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | 3rd or 4th google hit: http://iguanaworks.net/ir/ |
| [23:31:00] | neodraco: | yes, there no old record... I delete them as soon as I see them |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | neodraco: you should only delete recordings from within mythfrontend |
| [23:32:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | mount -o remount -o rw /dev/hda4 |
| [23:32:00] | Yellow-Snow2: | i did that and i still cant delete it |
| [23:32:00] | Juski: | ach well... |
| [23:32:00] | neodraco: | I know, there were no recordings stored prior to upgrading |
| [23:32:00] | glen: | hmm, actually with rec -c2 i see that one channel is silent... what to check now? :( |
| [23:33:00] | FunkyELF: | any gentoo users here on the newest version? |
| [23:33:00] | Juski: | glen: sounds like an ALSA drivery issue |
| [23:33:00] | Juski: | anyway – bedtime |
| [23:33:00] | glen: | Juski: reload modules? reboot? |
| [23:33:00] | AngryElf: | juski, you can spend $30 bucks for it if you like |
| [23:33:00] | neodraco: | the fact is that I can't make a new recording, not automated, only livetv records are stored |
| [23:33:00] | neodraco: | FunkyELF: me |
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| [23:34:00] | FunkyELF: | neodraco, are you havign problems? |
| [23:34:00] | neodraco: | yes :) |
| [23:34:00] | FunkyELF: | neodraco, did you upgrade from an older version? |
| [23:34:00] | neodraco: | yes, from 0.18.1 |
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| [23:34:00] | FunkyELF: | neodraco, hrm....I was just about to upgrade...maybe I shouldn't. Did you have problems with 0.18.1 ? |
| [23:35:00] | neodraco: | db upgrade went smoothly, and livetv works ok, but automated recording isn't working |
| [23:35:00] | jvs: | FunkyELF, I had no probs upgrading mythtv |
| [23:35:00] | FunkyELF: | neodraco, and it worked fine in 0.18.1? |
| [23:35:00] | jvs: | only ivtv took me some time |
| [23:35:00] | neodraco: | yeah, all was ok with 0.18.1 |
| [23:35:00] | FunkyELF: | jvs, you had to upgrade ivtv? |
| [23:36:00] | jvs: | but 0.19 is worth the pain, I can switch channels within a second |
| [23:36:00] | jvs: | FunkyELF, no...I just thought it would be time |
| [23:36:00] | jvs: | bad idea |
| [23:36:00] | jvs: | o_= |
| [23:36:00] | FunkyELF: | my emerge -pv mythtv is only showing libdvdnav, mythtv, and mythtv-themes |
| [23:36:00] | jvs: | yep |
| [23:36:00] | neodraco: | FunkyELF: anyway, you can quickpkg mythtv 0.18.1 and make a database backup, test the new version. if it doesn't work for you, you can easily restore your old settings. |
| [23:37:00] | FunkyELF: | jvs, do you think that it was the ivtv that made switching faster and not the 0.19? |
| [23:37:00] | jvs: | FunkyELF, the plugins are called mythvideo, mythweb etc. |
| [23:37:00] | psymin: | Anyone running mythtv (frontend and backend) on a 500mhz machine? |
| [23:37:00] | psymin: | It appears that its *almost* fast enough .. but I'm not running .19 yet |
| [23:38:00] | FunkyELF: | neodraco, I'm not familiar with quickpkg. is that all I have to run is that comand "quickpkg mythtv 0.18.1" ? |
| [23:38:00] | jvs: | FunkyELF, it think its 0.19...heavy changes in livetv code, if I'm right |
| [23:39:00] | dev-: | just dont upgrade your kernel to 2.6.15 |
| [23:39:00] | dev-: | what a bitch. |
| [23:39:00] | dev-: | im reverting to 14 because its bs getting an old pvr250 whos tuner type isnt autodetected to work |
| [23:39:00] | psymin: | dev-: you using ivtv? |
| [23:39:00] | dev-: | 2.6.15 tuner module is build in |
| [23:40:00] | dev-: | 2.6.14 and below it uses ivtv's which i can set manually and works fine |
| [23:40:00] | neodraco: | quickpkg mythtv will suffice, if i recall correctly |
| [23:40:00] | dev-: | cant seem to get the included kernel one manually. |
| [23:40:00] | psymin: | dev-: interesting .. I'm using 2.6.15 and ivtv with a Hauppauge 150 .. seems fine. |
| [23:40:00] | dev-: | its fine if its a newer card |
| [23:40:00] | dev-: | i have 2 that work and 2 that done, 2 are old and 2 are new |
| [23:40:00] | psymin: | dev-: Ahh =] |
| [23:41:00] | FunkyELF: | neodraco, I guess I should do mythtv-themes as well |
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| [23:42:00] | dev-: | i have 17minutes to get this working or im gonna be pissed :) |
| [23:42:00] | dev-: | compile modules faster dammit hehe |
| [23:43:00] | neodraco: | well, quickpkg saves you from recompile if you want to reinstall 0.18, there's not much to compile on mythtv-themes anyway, but yeah, you can make a package of it too |
| [23:43:00] | ** FunkyELF just started to emerge mythtv and prays he'll be able to record American Idol tonight ;-) ** | |
| [23:43:00] | dev-: | oh god thats right, thats on at 8 |
| [23:43:00] | dev-: | if i dont have this working by then, my fiance is going to kill me |
| [23:43:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, yeah |
| [23:43:00] | dev-: | heh |
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| [23:43:00] | psymin: | I hope an emerge -u would migrate everything properly =] |
| [23:43:00] | neodraco: | hahah |
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| [23:44:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, mininova.org + azureus = awesome |
| [23:44:00] | dev-: | yeah right, you tell a woman to wait |
| [23:44:00] | dev-: | "hold on hunny, i just need to dl it" |
| [23:44:00] | dev-: | BANGKILLSTAB |
| [23:44:00] | dev-: | dev will be nomore. |
| [23:45:00] | FunkyELF: | download it and it'll be in widescreen HD |
| [23:45:00] | neodraco: | sometimes I feel lucky for not having a fiance... xD |
| [23:45:00] | FunkyELF: | I prefer it to live actually |
| [23:45:00] | FunkyELF: | untill I get my SA3250 working with myth |
| [23:45:00] | dev-: | 13minutes. fucking modules. hurry. heh |
| [23:46:00] | FunkyELF: | oh shit...I think I left the frontend running in the other room |
| [23:46:00] | ** FunkyELF runs to exit out of it while he emerges a new one ** | |
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| [23:47:00] | dev-: | this is going to cut it close |
| [23:48:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, you watch that show too? |
| [23:48:00] | dev-: | reb0ot! |
| [23:48:00] | dev-: | 7pm is ghost hunters, something my fiance watches |
| [23:48:00] | dev-: | its not on very often |
| [23:48:00] | Spida: | Undefined subroutine &XMLTV::AskTerm::init called at <- anybody seen this in some xmltv grebber? |
| [23:48:00] | dev-: | so missing it, would be teh suck |
| [23:49:00] | dev-: | she doesnt know its recording tonight, so i coudl get away with it not working |
| [23:49:00] | dev-: | but id still feel bad |
| [23:49:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [23:49:00] | dev-: | werd, back up. quick typeing time |
| [23:49:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [23:52:00] | xpis: | Does anyone have mythstreamtv working with the current code? (0.19 now) |
| [23:53:00] | Blammo[work]: | [piggybacking on xpis] or working with MPEG-TS recordings? |
| [23:53:00] | FunkyELF: | xpis, what is mythstreamtv? |
| [23:53:00] | psymin: | xpis: I think that mythstreamtv uses vlc to stream, so it shouldn't be too hard to fix if its broken |
| [23:54:00] | FunkyELF: | dev-, how long did myth take to compile? |
| [23:55:00] | Blammo[work]: | funkyelf: mythstreamTV — (1) integrates with mythweb (2) gives you a nice list of your present recordings to choose from (3) transcodes those and streams them to watch across LAN/Broadband at a chooseable codec, bitrate, and resize value. |
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| [23:55:00] | FunkyELF: | WOW....that seams awesome....it can do the transcoding live? |
| [23:55:00] | psymin: | FunkyELF: yes |
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| [23:56:00] | FunkyELF: | I think when I transcode it takes an hour to transcode an hour long show. |
| [23:56:00] | Blammo[work]: | FunkyELF: In my experience, recordings, not LiveTV |
| [23:56:00] | psymin: | FunkyELF: err .. vlc can .. I couldn't do it with mystreamtv .. prolly a failing on my part though |
| [23:56:00] | FunkyELF: | maybe transcoding into worse quality takes less cpu? |
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| [23:56:00] | AndyW: | good evening |
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| [23:57:00] | Blammo[work]: | Works great for me on PVRx-50 recordings, but it fails miserablly on MPEG2-TS recordings (HD, etc) |
| [23:57:00] | FunkyELF: | does mythstreamtv work with any windows programs? i.e. Windows Media Player or Winamp? |
| [23:57:00] | Blammo[work]: | yep – used it with both. |
| [23:57:00] | Blammo[work]: | does WMV2 or DIVX3 |
| [23:57:00] | psymin: | FunkyELF: Depends on the codec .. I think the only two options work in windows by default |
| [23:57:00] | xpis: | FunkyELF: or VLC if you don't like proprietary software |
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| [23:58:00] | dev-: | Wed Feb 15 18:58:08 EST 2006 |
| [23:58:00] | xpis: | But.. does anyone who is using it have it working on the latest mythweb and mythtv code? |
| [23:58:00] | dev-: | wow, less than 2 minutes to go |
| [23:58:00] | dev-: | and its working perfectly |
| [23:58:00] | AndyW: | I have mythtv running on ubuntu, and the frontend comes up and everything seems to be working great... but I am not able to connect to mythweb from any of my other local network machines... any ideas? |
| [23:58:00] | ** dev- wipes sweat off brow ** | |
| [23:58:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [23:58:00] | AndyW: | error --> mysql_connect(): Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' |
| [23:58:00] | FunkyELF: | i used winamp 2 for the longest time and just installed winamp 5 and I'm digging their videos that you can stream. I need to find a stream capture program so I can put those on my video iPod |
| [23:59:00] | xpis: | winamp2 has quite a few unpatched holes, iirc. |
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