| Sunday, February 12th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | which one is that ? |
| [00:01:00] | scottder: | "DO NOT start using svn like the |
| [00:01:00] | scottder: | genius who jumped the gun suggests." |
| [00:01:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [00:02:00] | Chutt: | i originally used something slightly stronger than 'genius' |
| [00:02:00] | ShockValue: | anyone have any lxmsuite theme screenshots? i can only find references to them on their website.. but their website is down |
| [00:02:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [00:02:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: I was referring to the webpage remote contro thingy ;-) |
| [00:02:00] | scottder: | Chutt: hmmm fucktard :) |
| [00:02:00] | timm is now known as bleh | |
| [00:02:00] | xpis: | lxmsuite is dead |
| [00:02:00] | ShockValue: | yes, and the theme is now public |
| [00:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh, heh Mostly been playing in the background stuff and making notes on stuff I'd wanna add to the telnet controls |
| [00:02:00] | Juski: | ShockValue: screw screenshots – download em & take them for a spin. them is nice |
| [00:02:00] | bleh is now known as asdfasdf | |
| [00:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | and playing with some javascript |
| [00:03:00] | asdfasdf (n=omg@86.41.159.142) Quit ("http://timmins.ti.funpic.org/blog") | |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | I won't be using em but they weren't a wasted download, any of them |
| [00:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | They look pretty nice, I was looking around in them last night |
| [00:03:00] | ShockValue: | currently using hte dark grey widescreen one.. its pretty nice |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | it's not gonna be as dark for much longer |
| [00:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Going with a lighter look? |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | more highlights... shiny |
| [00:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | sweey |
| [00:04:00] | ShockValue: | Oh, are you the author of that theme? Let me say thanks for your work then :) |
| [00:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | little shiny chrome thrown in ? |
| [00:05:00] | ShockValue: | ooo shiney.. i like shiney... |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | now I can do brushed aluminium... |
| [00:05:00] | ** ShockValue stares at the nickle on his desk ** | |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | jackdaw-wide? |
| [00:05:00] | ShockValue: | sorta like dark+crystal ? |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | crystal things are yummy IMHO |
| [00:06:00] | Juski: | been trying to figure a way to get the mythmusic screen to look more like a tangible thing |
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| [00:06:00] | scottder: | The Dark Crystal....so sort of a muppet look :) |
| [00:07:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [00:07:00] | ShockValue: | in another world... in another time.. |
| [00:07:00] | Juski: | theming for 0.20 is going to be a whole new bag 'o' tricks I imagine |
| [00:08:00] | Juski: | sorry.. 0.19 isn't even out yet & I'm talking about 0.20 |
| [00:08:00] | Juski: | little bit excited about opengl things |
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| [00:10:00] | aztek: | i am kinda curious about the 0.19 changelog :) |
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| [00:12:00] | xris: | aztek: it's in the wiki |
| [00:13:00] | xris: | fyi, I just released nuvexport 0.3.. it's the same as the last svn snapshot, but I figured I'd bump the version up to coincide with myth .19 |
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| [00:21:00] | scottder: | Juski: open gl things? :) |
| [00:21:00] | scottder: | xris: whats new? |
| [00:22:00] | Juski: | scottder: read some mailing list archives ;) |
| [00:24:00] | scottder: | Bah :) |
| [00:26:00] | ShockValue: | umm ok.. so i installed this new theme.. and it doesnt have a "setup" menu item.. how do i select a differetn theme now? :) |
| [00:27:00] | Juski: | page down |
| [00:27:00] | ShockValue: | hrm |
| [00:28:00] | Juski: | horizontal stuff doesn't work too well in the menus |
| [00:28:00] | ShockValue: | thanks |
| [00:29:00] | Juski: | ooo drop everything... listened to a couple of old tracks from 1995.. now I want to do a mix |
| [00:29:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, i dont like horizontal.. i like using the "right" button for selections more than hitting OK |
| [00:30:00] | Juski: | I like the idea of having an array of menu items, shuffling them around to bring the one you want to the front though |
| [00:30:00] | Juski: | without 'whoosh' sound fx ;) |
| [00:32:00] | ShockValue: | i kinda like audio feedback, as long as it's subtle |
| [00:32:00] | xpis: | " ....::::OWNZ BY V10 D3N14L H4CK3RS::::...." |
| [00:33:00] | ShockValue: | well, back to grey-wide. those lxmsuite ones didnt do much for me |
| [00:33:00] | xpis: | Who did that? |
| [00:33:00] | scottder: | I'd say the "D3N14L H4CK3RS" |
| [00:33:00] | xpis: | And they now appear to have taken the entire server offline. |
| [00:33:00] | xpis: | (killed apache) |
| [00:33:00] | ShockValue: | which, wha? |
| [00:33:00] | Chutt: | err, i took it offline :p |
| [00:34:00] | xpis: | Chutt: who are the D3N14L H4CK3RS, and why do they want to screw the 0.19 release? |
| [00:34:00] | Chutt: | i had admin.php +w while i was adding the new story |
| [00:34:00] | Chutt: | of course, that's been a grand total of 15 minutes |
| [00:34:00] | ShockValue: | wow.. little parasites move damn fast |
| [00:35:00] | xpis: | It must have been an automated script attacking every php nuke site constantly |
| [00:36:00] | xpis: | So.. did the "D3N14l H4CK3RS" do anything that can't be undone in 15 minutes? |
| [00:36:00] | Chutt: | of course not. |
| [00:36:00] | Chutt: | all they had access to was phpnuke :p |
| [00:36:00] | xpis: | They could have deleted the site content |
| [00:37:00] | xpis: | (requiring a restore from backup or google cache) |
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| [00:37:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but i have backups |
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| [00:38:00] | Chutt: | 201.13.44.69 |
| [00:39:00] | xpis: | That's the IP that did it? |
| [00:39:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [00:40:00] | scottder: | Brazil |
| [00:40:00] | scottder: | weee |
| [00:49:00] | Chutt: | whoops, missed one part |
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| [00:51:00] | scottder: | All /win 3 |
| [00:51:00] | scottder: | Opps |
| [00:51:00] | xris: | scottder: huh? nothing new. just the new number |
| [00:52:00] | scottder: | Changelog: Bumping version number jus because! :) |
| [00:53:00] | hans0lo: | I can no longer play recordings, from the server, or from the frontends. Where do I need to look to start troubleshooting this? |
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| [00:54:00] | xris: | hans0lo: wait 3–4 hours and then install .19? |
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| [00:55:00] | hans0lo: | are there mythbackend logs somewhere that might show an error? |
| [00:55:00] | beau_: | hey, just wanted to let anyone in here know this |
| [00:56:00] | beau_: | if u are using fc4, and ur audio has been playing up, turn off the KDE sound system completely, and compile mythtv with NO OSS support |
| [00:57:00] | beau_: | then, get a newer alsa driver, for some reason the 1.0.10 never worked for me, but the rc2 release of 1.0.11 worked for me |
| [00:57:00] | beau_: | i think it was that version |
| [00:57:00] | beau_: | anyway, thats all i know a fair few people had this problem, so just letting everyone know what worked for me |
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| [00:58:00] | Z-Morek: | mmmmmm time to migrate |
| [00:59:00] | Z-Morek: | I have 3 hours until FMA is on |
| [00:59:00] | Z-Morek: | if I don't finish by then I'll be very sad |
| [01:00:00] | ** Z-Morek gasps ** | |
| [01:00:00] | Z-Morek: | 0.19 is essentially done |
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| [01:02:00] | hans0lo: | I am getting the following error: Invalid file handle when opening /myth/tv/1025_20060211180800_20060211183000.nuv. 4 retries remaining. |
| [01:03:00] | hans0lo: | Any clue as to how to fix it? |
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| [01:03:00] | hans0lo: | The file exists |
| [01:03:00] | Kelerion: | Chutt: the "cheap TV tuner card" link in the Background section of the site doesn't go where it's supposed to go.. |
| [01:04:00] | Kelerion: | in fact.. none of the links in that section are right |
| [01:04:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. the case link still works |
| [01:05:00] | Kelerion: | new link for nuv codec is: http://frost.htu.tuwien.ac.at/~roman/nuppelvideo/ |
| [01:06:00] | scottder: | Proof that the word extreme (or worse Xtreme) is overused, http://img.buzznet.com/assets/users8/axa13/di . . . 840436-2.jpg |
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| [01:09:00] | Z-Morek: | that bread has been around for a while |
| [01:09:00] | Z-Morek: | I work at a grocery store |
| [01:09:00] | Z-Morek: | it's like... cheap white bread with extra vitamins and minerals... targeted at kids |
| [01:09:00] | jnunez (n=jnunez@ool-43519335.dyn.optonline.net) Quit () | |
| [01:10:00] | scottder: | It's so extreme they don't even need the first E |
| [01:10:00] | scottder: | :) |
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| [01:10:00] | Z-Morek: | call in maddox |
| [01:15:00] | Chutt: | Kelerion, i don't mind terribly :p |
| [01:16:00] | Kelerion: | nah.. not that important.. lol |
| [01:16:00] | Kelerion: | I mean.. this room alone proves no-one actually *read* the website .. lol |
| [01:17:00] | Kelerion: | it'd be nice if they did of course.. |
| [01:17:00] | Chutt: | it comes up every few months |
| [01:19:00] | Kelerion: | out of curiosity... does the guy that came up with nuppelvideo use myth do you know? |
| [01:19:00] | Kelerion: | I know myth uses a customised version |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | hah |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | doubt it |
| [01:20:00] | Kelerion: | you ever spoken to him? |
| [01:21:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [01:22:00] | Chutt: | his email address didn't work back when i tried it |
| [01:22:00] | Kelerion: | I bet he knows it's been used this widely.. suprised he hasn't been in touch |
| [01:23:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. I knew I had a question for you |
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| [01:23:00] | Kelerion: | whats the largest installation of myth you know of? |
| [01:24:00] | Kelerion: | my wife asked me and I wasn't sure |
| [01:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | How do you define large? Amount of disk space? or number of frontends ? |
| [01:24:00] | Kelerion: | I know someone on the ML asked about a BBC type installation.. but I dont know if he went with it |
| [01:25:00] | Z-Morek: | 0.19 release! woot |
| [01:25:00] | Kelerion: | number of backends.. number of frontends etc |
| [01:28:00] | Kelerion: | "Because, you know, we like you. Kind of. Anyway." ?? lol |
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| [01:31:00] | scottder: | One of my co-workers has a Myth with 3TB of attached storage... |
| [01:32:00] | Kelerion: | I have 1TB.. and I thought that was good! lol |
| [01:33:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( |
| [01:33:00] | scottder: | Beats my 2 60GB drives.... |
| [01:33:00] | Z-Morek: | I have 180 gigs.... |
| [01:33:00] | scottder: | but they were also free so hard to argue with free |
| [01:33:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [01:33:00] | Kelerion: | can't beat free :) |
| [01:33:00] | Z-Morek: | so I'm migrating from rpms to self-compile |
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| [01:34:00] | Z-Morek: | in apt should I just apt remove mythtv-suite, and then just follow the docs otherwise? |
| [01:34:00] | Z-Morek: | as if it were from scratch... ish |
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| [01:34:00] | Kelerion: | Z-Morek: I did use svn.. and it really is *very* stable |
| [01:34:00] | Z-Morek: | I signed up for the mailing lists |
| [01:34:00] | Kelerion: | especially since the double-escale bug was fixed |
| [01:34:00] | Kelerion: | escape..even |
| [01:35:00] | Z-Morek: | okay |
| [01:35:00] | dtm: | one wonders if 3TB dedicated to a personal media store is more indicative of an obsessive/compulsive condition than a technological advantage |
| [01:35:00] | Kelerion: | did=do.. damn I must be getting drunk |
| [01:36:00] | Layer01_afk is now known as Layer01 | |
| [01:36:00] | Z-Morek: | so in other words... remove the mythtv-suite and just install svn |
| [01:36:00] | Kelerion: | I'd say so yes |
| [01:37:00] | Z-Morek: | and should I even bother backing up my database? |
| [01:37:00] | Z-Morek: | or will this be fairly safe |
| [01:37:00] | laga: | 0.19!!!! yeeeeeeehaw! |
| [01:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've go 3 backends ( master, slave and dev slave), and 4 frontends, with 1 TB of storage |
| [01:37:00] | Kelerion: | Z-Morek: always backup.. just in case |
| [01:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Z-Morek: It is ALWAYS good practive to backup |
| [01:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | always |
| [01:37:00] | Cardoe: | GreyFoxx: make tv out on my PPC work! |
| [01:38:00] | Kelerion: | I have 3 backends and 3 frontends and 1TB.. so you win so far :P |
| [01:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | sure, get me a ppc and I'll figure it out :) |
| [01:38:00] | Z-Morek: | I dugg the 0.19 release |
| [01:38:00] | Z-Morek: | it's my first digg... I feel like a noob |
| [01:38:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders how many 0.19 tarballs will be grabbed in the next couple days ** | |
| [01:38:00] | Cardoe: | is 0.19 official? |
| [01:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [01:38:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [01:38:00] | ** laga gets one while they're still hot ** | |
| [01:39:00] | ** laga dances ** | |
| [01:39:00] | Chutt: | GreyFoxx, 40 so far. |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [01:39:00] | Kelerion: | am running svn from a couple of days ago and all is fine here.. so not gonna bother upgrading at the moment |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: Same here |
| [01:39:00] | laga: | make that 41 in a few seconds :) |
| [01:39:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, shouldn't be long for ebuilds, right? |
| [01:39:00] | laga: | i'm running SVN as well, but hey – it's 0.19. :) |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: Care to update the topic in here? Still says 0.18.1 |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: hehe |
| [01:40:00] | Chutt: | that requires me opping myself |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | there have been like 3 updates since my last svn up, heh |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: Then give me ops and I'll do it ;) |
| [01:40:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Chutt | |
| [01:40:00] | Chutt changes topic to '.:. Welcome to the official user-to-user support channel. .:. http://pastebin.ca/ .:.' | |
| [01:40:00] | Chutt sets mode -v Chutt | |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | would be nice for booting some of the fools in here some days ;) |
| [01:40:00] | Chutt sets mode -o Chutt | |
| [01:41:00] | dtm: | okay. yellow-snow is the proof that the /topic policy has no teeth! ;-> |
| [01:41:00] | dtm: | that or he's the court jester |
| [01:41:00] | Kelerion: | what I *do* have to figure out though is why adding my 2nd and 3rd backend screwed up recording.. all my records are jumping video/popping audio.. I figure it's a hard drive problem but I can't figure out where to start solving it |
| [01:41:00] | dtm: | do we have a dumbass quota or what |
| [01:42:00] | laga: | dtm: status quo is 100% |
| [01:42:00] | Z-Morek: | okay it's my first self-compile |
| [01:43:00] | scottder: | Why aren't the RPMS put yet!!! |
| [01:43:00] | Z-Morek: | where would it be ideal to download the tarballs and compile from there? |
| [01:43:00] | scottder: | Just kidding ;0 |
| [01:43:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [01:43:00] | xpis: | Who wants to bet on who which news site will realize first |
| [01:43:00] | Z-Morek: | I dugg it! |
| [01:43:00] | Z-Morek: | :-P |
| [01:43:00] | xpis: | s/who// |
| [01:44:00] | scottder: | xpis: Slashdot will post it....in a few weeks anyway :) |
| [01:45:00] | Chutt: | it's not that big of a deal |
| [01:45:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: testing a final 0.19 ebuild right now |
| [01:45:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: essentially just making sure everything works from the ebuild of the snapshot from a week ago |
| [01:46:00] | xpis: | Well, the tarballs are downloading at 400KBps.. |
| [01:47:00] | Juski: | doing a mix to celebrate |
| [01:47:00] | Z-Morek: | downloading the svn now.... |
| [01:47:00] | xpis: | Chutt: why don't you write the slashdot story, so it will read as you want it to? |
| [01:47:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: and uploading the tarballs to the Gentoo mirrors |
| [01:48:00] | Cardoe: | and I'm gonna let it settle on those mirrors first too |
| [01:48:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: should make your mirror admins a little happier |
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| [01:48:00] | djperegrine: | w000t |
| [01:48:00] | djperegrine: | .019 out |
| [01:48:00] | Chutt: | xpis, i don't care to :p |
| [01:49:00] | Chutt: | Cardoe, mirror admins? |
| [01:49:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: whoever runs your mirrors |
| [01:49:00] | ** Cardoe shrugs. ** | |
| [01:49:00] | Chutt: | what mirrors? |
| [01:49:00] | Cardoe: | I dunno |
| [01:49:00] | Chutt: | me gots big pipes |
| [01:49:00] | Cardoe: | alright |
| [01:49:00] | djperegrine: | wonder when knoppmyth will update |
| [01:49:00] | Chutt: | never required a mirror |
| [01:49:00] | Cardoe: | never |
| [01:50:00] | Chutt: | well, once i moved it off of my dsl line |
| [01:50:00] | Z-Morek: | knoppmyth is trash |
| [01:50:00] | Chutt: | but that was many years ago |
| [01:50:00] | Chutt: | i'm going to get rid of that lameass 'Read More' link on the website |
| [01:51:00] | laga: | didn't jams make a new website? |
| [01:51:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [01:51:00] | Chutt: | using joomla, i think |
| [01:51:00] | djperegrine: | Z-Morek... why/ |
| [01:51:00] | Chutt: | however |
| [01:51:00] | djperegrine: | ? |
| [01:51:00] | Z-Morek: | why svn? |
| [01:51:00] | Chutt: | i have serious doubts about its ability to scale |
| [01:52:00] | Z-Morek: | okay so I have lame installed via apt |
| [01:52:00] | Z-Morek: | and the configure script doesn't recognize it |
| [01:53:00] | Z-Morek: | and I'm a noob |
| [01:53:00] | laga: | Chutt: well, might be worth a try :) IIRC, it looked spiffy :) |
| [01:53:00] | Chutt: | looked fairly similar to the existing site, which is what i wanted |
| [01:54:00] | ** laga obviously doesn't RC then ** | |
| [01:54:00] | laga: | hum. public svn access kinda spoils the joy of a new release :/ |
| [01:54:00] | scottder: | So don't do SVN :) |
| [01:55:00] | laga: | scottder: what fun would that be? :) |
| [01:55:00] | laga: | well, i think i'm gonna stay stable for some time now :) till i see a new feature :/ |
| [01:57:00] | laga: | well, let's hope that marillat will have 0.19 packaged soon. i don't feel like packaging it on my own :) |
| [01:59:00] | laga is now known as gardengnome | |
| [02:00:00] | Z-Morek: | am I a noob for using root over ssh instead of a user and then superuser when needed? |
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| [02:01:00] | dtm: | Z-Morek: yeah. |
| [02:01:00] | Z-Morek: | I thought so |
| [02:01:00] | dtm: | Z-Morek: ideally you'd have the desired command in the form of a shell script on the target system, and you'd configure /etc/sudoers to allow your user to execute that one command as uid0 if needed. |
| [02:01:00] | dtm: | or as whatever user. |
| [02:02:00] | dtm: | that's how i do my backups for example |
| [02:02:00] | dtm: | and disable root ssh entirely |
| [02:02:00] | dtm: | and change its public port ^_^ |
| [02:02:00] | xpis: | I'm submitting a story to slashdot. Are the tarballs on any mirrors I should link to, instead of the download page? |
| [02:02:00] | Chutt: | don't link to the download page |
| [02:03:00] | Chutt: | and why would slashdot care? |
| [02:03:00] | Chutt: | do you see every release of every opensource software project getting a story? |
| [02:03:00] | djperegrine: | Chutt, mythtv is a big deal :P |
| [02:03:00] | Chutt: | don't link to the wiki, don't link to the download page |
| [02:04:00] | gardengnome: | link to www.mythtv.org/mc/mythtv-0.19.tar.bz2 instead ;) |
| [02:04:00] | Chutt: | err, no |
| [02:04:00] | Chutt: | if you do that, i'll change the urls |
| [02:04:00] | gardengnome: | i was just joking :) |
| [02:04:00] | Chutt: | suure |
| [02:04:00] | Z-Morek: | I dugg to the news story on the homepage |
| [02:05:00] | xpis: | Chutt: I thought you said the wiki was cached |
| [02:05:00] | ** scottder is looking forward to OSD working with xvmc ** | |
| [02:05:00] | Chutt: | it is |
| [02:05:00] | Chutt: | but it's still dumb to link to it from slashdot |
| [02:05:00] | xpis: | Chutt: If I don't submit a story, someone will submit a worse one. |
| [02:05:00] | Chutt: | directly, that is. |
| [02:05:00] | xpis: | Chutt: could you cache the release notes somewhere? |
| [02:05:00] | Chutt: | well, from what you're saying, not likely :p |
| [02:05:00] | Z-Morek: | most people that read slashdot or digg click the first page |
| [02:05:00] | Z-Morek: | and stop there |
| [02:06:00] | Chutt: | why on earth would you need to link directly to the release notes? |
| [02:06:00] | xpis: | ok, I guess I'll take out all links except for the main page. |
| [02:06:00] | Z-Morek: | and anihilate the server |
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| [02:07:00] | Z-Morek: | okay I'm removing mythtv-suite from apt |
| [02:07:00] | Z-Morek: | :-\ |
| [02:08:00] | Z-Morek: | I feel like I'm breaking my mythrig |
| [02:09:00] | djperegrine: | mythrig? |
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| [02:11:00] | chuckyp: | Is there anywhere I can find a changelog for .19? |
| [02:12:00] | xpis: | chuckyp: it's linked to on the homepage |
| [02:12:00] | gardengnome: | read the announcement |
| [02:12:00] | xpis: | chuckyp: it's in the wiki |
| [02:12:00] | chuckyp: | I must be blind |
| [02:12:00] | gardengnome: | yep :) |
| [02:12:00] | Z-Morek: | mythtv dedicated backend |
| [02:12:00] | Z-Morek: | mythrig |
| [02:12:00] | Z-Morek: | the only computer in my house running linux :-/ |
| [02:13:00] | chuckyp: | How do you change tuners from within live tv |
| [02:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | c |
| [02:14:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: rtfm |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | You shouldn't have to though |
| [02:14:00] | scottder: | chuckyp: read above |
| [02:14:00] | gardengnome: | hiya Juski |
| [02:14:00] | Juski: | hiya gardengnome |
| [02:14:00] | gardengnome: | hehe |
| [02:14:00] | Z-Morek: | mmm building.... |
| [02:15:00] | duckeo: | do most people do an upgrade of mythtv or a complete rebuilt? |
| [02:15:00] | duckeo: | rebuild* ? |
| [02:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | upgrade |
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| [02:15:00] | ** gardengnome actually ponders purging his mythconverg database ** | |
| [02:15:00] | gardengnome: | that might be more fun :) |
| [02:16:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm migrating from rpms to self-compile |
| [02:16:00] | Juski: | been trying to find a sound sample for this mix... google is getting bogged down in scripted responses |
| [02:16:00] | Z-Morek: | so how do I upgrade after this? |
| [02:16:00] | Z-Morek: | it's definitely not just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| [02:16:00] | chuckyp: | Juski, can't you just tell me the key? |
| [02:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | upgrade after installing by source ? |
| [02:16:00] | Z-Morek: | rtfm... gotcha |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: reading the manual will teach you more than just one key ;-) |
| [02:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, I was asking if that's what you mean |
| [02:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | are you asking "if I install from source, how do I upgrade later" |
| [02:17:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah |
| [02:17:00] | Z-Morek: | and I assume I'm just not reading something |
| [02:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | download the new source, compile and run |
| [02:17:00] | chuckyp: | Juski, I know how to do everything else I need to. I JUST NEED TO CHANGE THE DAMN TUNNER FROM WITHIN LIVE TV SO I CAN GET OFF OF tunner 1 |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | so press Y already |
| [02:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | chuckyp: I just did tell you |
| [02:17:00] | chuckyp: | Juski, but if you don't want ot tell me thats fine |
| [02:18:00] | Juski: | c changes inputs on tuners iirc |
| [02:18:00] | gardengnome: | 7kick chuckyp |
| [02:18:00] | chuckyp: | Thank you |
| [02:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | right, I had them reversed |
| [02:18:00] | chuckyp: | Was that so hard |
| [02:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | chuckyp: LiveTV, according to the change log should not require you to manually change tuners |
| [02:18:00] | Z-Morek: | if everone asks every little question |
| [02:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | chuckyp: Apparently for you it was |
| [02:18:00] | Juski: | can I be ruder than I've ever been? I'm tempted |
| [02:18:00] | Z-Morek: | it gets bad |
| [02:18:00] | gardengnome: | Juski: show us. |
| [02:18:00] | gardengnome: | :) |
| [02:19:00] | Z-Morek: | which is why I feel guilty asking anything :-( |
| [02:19:00] | chuckyp: | GreyFoxx, its a complicated problem |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | cause in the time it took for you to go on in here you could have looked at the documentation on the website or read keys.txt from the source |
| [02:19:00] | gardengnome: | chuckyp: it's in a file called 'keys.txt' (or keys_de.txt if you fancy reading it in german) |
| [02:20:00] | Z-Morek: | will I need to run mythtvsetup after compiling and installing? or will the settings still be saved somewhere |
| [02:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Z-Morek: Your settings are stored in a mysql database |
| [02:20:00] | Z-Morek: | which is why I backed it up... just in case |
| [02:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | you wont need to rerun mythtv-setup |
| [02:21:00] | Z-Morek: | k |
| [02:22:00] | chuckyp: | gardengnome: I'm still looking through the wiki for it |
| [02:22:00] | gardengnome: | chuckyp: read keys.txt. |
| [02:22:00] | chuckyp: | I'm not on the nix box currently |
| [02:23:00] | gardengnome: | *shrug* |
| [02:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | chuckyp: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 |
| [02:23:00] | Z-Morek: | we're still on this? :-P |
| [02:23:00] | gardengnome: | Z-Morek: not me. night :) |
| [02:23:00] | Juski: | night gardengnome |
| [02:23:00] | chuckyp: | ty GreyFoxx: I still have trouble with the way some of these wikis are written |
| [02:23:00] | xpis: | Unless someone has any objections, I'm posting this to slashdot: |
| [02:24:00] | xpis: | MythTV 0.19 has been <A HREF="http://mythtv.org/">released</A>. New features include closed captioning support (not on all cards), a much improved MythWeb web-based interface, the ability to save the live TV buffer as recordings, a telnet interface for the MythTV frontend, and saving recordings from hardware MPEG2 encoders as standard mpeg files. A large number of bugs have been fixed, |
| [02:24:00] | Juski: | who even takes any notice of slashdot these days? |
| [02:24:00] | xpis: | resulting in increased support for devices and greater overall stability. See the <A HREF="http://www.mythtv.org.nyud.net:8090/wiki/inde . . . ;>release notes</A> for a list of all changes. |
| [02:24:00] | Juski: | knee jerk reactions called 'news' :-P |
| [02:24:00] | Chutt: | that's not even true |
| [02:24:00] | xpis: | Note that I'm not linking directly to the wiki. |
| [02:24:00] | Chutt: | closed captioning has been around for ages |
| [02:24:00] | xpis: | well, it hasn't worked. |
| [02:24:00] | Chutt: | only on some cards. |
| [02:25:00] | xpis: | It hasn't worked on my standard framegrabber with a /dev/vbi device. |
| [02:25:00] | Chutt: | worked on mine. |
| [02:25:00] | Z-Morek: | mmm coral cache |
| [02:25:00] | Chutt: | and that code certainly wasn't changed in 0.19 |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | recordings from hardware mpeg2 encoders have always been standard mpeg files too |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | just with a different extension ;) |
| [02:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | they just have .mpg filenames now :) |
| [02:25:00] | Chutt: | that too. |
| [02:25:00] | xpis: | Then why is closed captioning mentioned in teh release notes? |
| [02:25:00] | chuckyp: | I'm so about to give up |
| [02:25:00] | Chutt: | because it support was added for the pvr-250/350. |
| [02:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | chuckyp: What exactly is the problem you are having ? |
| [02:26:00] | Chutt: | see, should've just left it :p |
| [02:26:00] | Chutt: | that's a not very good slashdot story |
| [02:26:00] | chuckyp: | Alright here's whats going on I get everything working with pvr-150 including the remote controlling my directv last night went to mythweb clicked on program listings. It blew up the backend. |
| [02:26:00] | xpis: | Ok, then should I say "closed captioning support on more cards"? |
| [02:26:00] | Juski: | mythtv ate my MCE system alive... that's more like a slashdot story |
| [02:26:00] | Chutt: | i don't see why you should be saying anything, personally. |
| [02:26:00] | chuckyp: | GreyFoxx: If I use the same settings that I know work I get static instead of the cable. |
| [02:26:00] | Chutt: | especially if you can't even get the basic new features right |
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| [02:27:00] | chuckyp: | GreyFoxx: PVR150 myth version is .18.1 with Fedora Core 4 |
| [02:27:00] | Juski: | xpis: anyone who's even remotely interested in mythtv will know 0.19 is out soon enough |
| [02:27:00] | chuckyp: | GreyFoxx: The drivers for the card are being loaded and everything. |
| [02:27:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: and erm... catting /dev/video0 into a file then playing it works okay? |
| [02:27:00] | sPiN: | hey guys i had a system freeze on the mythtv svn, and now im getting these sql errors when i start mythbackend |
| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Actually looks like I'm being summoned (daughter woke up), gotta run |
| [02:28:00] | sPiN: | are there some database repair tools |
| [02:28:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: hold up I'm going to have my buddy log in who is at the box to help further. |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: I've never known mythweb crash the backend |
| [02:29:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: It does like clock work for some reason |
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| [02:29:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: that could be a very tricky thing to debug |
| [02:29:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: Then upon restarting the backend I get static |
| [02:30:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: I'd have serious concerns about your machine if it's that bad |
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| [02:30:00] | Chris123: | hello |
| [02:30:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: it was working before I just can't get it up again |
| [02:30:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: Chris123 is at the box with the problem. |
| [02:30:00] | Juski: | mythweb doesn't do much in the way of talking to mythbackend.. it speaks to the database more than anything else |
| [02:31:00] | Chris123: | Juski: i noticed the beckend was still running but i believe that mythweb was crashign it |
| [02:31:00] | Chris123: | backend* |
| [02:31:00] | Juski: | I've got no idea what could cause that |
| [02:31:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: I'm not worried about why the mythweb crashes is but more about how to get it running again. |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | does it work after a reboot? |
| [02:32:00] | Chris123: | Juski:no |
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| [02:32:00] | Juski: | or if you restart the backend process? |
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| [02:32:00] | Chris123: | No |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | and/or reload ivtv? |
| [02:32:00] | Chris123: | tried all that |
| [02:32:00] | xpis: | Is this better?: MythTV 0.19 has been <A HREF="http://www.netflix.com>Netflix</A>. |
| [02:32:00] | Chris123: | its almost like it modified and saved a setting |
| [02:32:00] | Chutt: | that's better |
| [02:33:00] | xpis: | ok, I'm submitting, with a fixed netflix link |
| [02:33:00] | Chutt: | i do prefer the www.mythtv.org |
| [02:33:00] | Chutt: | but, either way |
| [02:33:00] | Chris123: | Juski: i got it back up 2 times before by clearing the capture card setting and channels int he master backend |
| [02:33:00] | Chris123: | but that doesnt work anymore |
| [02:33:00] | Chutt: | since there are other subdomains that actually go to different places |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | Chris123 & chuckyp: if it's screwing the database up there's more wrong than meets the eye |
| [02:34:00] | dtm: | Chutt: it's not referencing a subdomain. |
| [02:34:00] | dtm: | Chutt: why would you prefer that |
| [02:34:00] | Chris123: | Juski: think if I delete the database and rebuild it it my remedy the problem |
| [02:34:00] | Chutt: | because there _are_ other subdomains. |
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| [02:34:00] | Chutt: | svn/cvs and wiki |
| [02:34:00] | Chutt: | oh, and mail |
| [02:35:00] | Juski: | Chris123: I think it might fix it until the next time mythweb is used |
| [02:35:00] | Chutt: | though mail doesn't go someplace differently anymore. |
| [02:35:00] | Chris123: | Juski: mythweb is fine until I click on the 3 icons uptop |
| [02:35:00] | xpis: | Chutt: ok, I'm adding www. |
| [02:35:00] | Juski: | but I really can't see how mythweb would break anything.. it should be _impossible_ |
| [02:36:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [02:36:00] | Chris123: | Juski: i have 16,000 mp3z in the database |
| [02:36:00] | Chutt: | load on the server is a screaming... 8%. |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | I have more than that |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | more than 16,000 music tracks I mean ;-) |
| [02:36:00] | scottder: | Unless it hosed the mysql DB...but how likely is that |
| [02:36:00] | Chris123: | i thought maybe loadin all that info crashed it |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | how would mythweb hose the DB? |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | something with the system it's on is very suspect |
| [02:37:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: I don't know. But it does like clockwork multiple reinstalls etc.. |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | and it won't be mythweb's fault, mark my words |
| [02:37:00] | Z-Morek: | wow compiling takes forever on my rig |
| [02:37:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: so what are you saying try to reinstall the db? |
| [02:37:00] | Chris123: | if i try tv functions including recorded programs, or myth video on the web I lose my channel guide and tuner |
| [02:38:00] | Chutt: | Juski, mythweb used to cause the backend to die all the time in older versions. |
| [02:38:00] | Juski: | did it? |
| [02:38:00] | Chutt: | yes |
| [02:38:00] | xpis: | Ok, slashdot story submitted. Prepare for many downloads at once if it is accepted. |
| [02:38:00] | Juski: | so anything's possible then |
| [02:38:00] | Chris123: | Mythweb music Mythweb video and recordings crashes my DB I think |
| [02:38:00] | xpis: | And make sure to have your postnuke permissions set right :P |
| [02:38:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: So does the DB hold the settings from mythtv-setup? |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: you name it, the DB has it |
| [02:39:00] | Chutt: | xpis, err, we get slashdotted around once a month |
| [02:39:00] | Chutt: | it won't be anything special |
| [02:39:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: Is there a log file for the mythtv-setup somewhere? |
| [02:39:00] | xpis: | Chutt: but not when a new release is ready for people to download |
| [02:39:00] | Chutt: | last couple were |
| [02:39:00] | Chutt: | didn't do anything. |
| [02:39:00] | Chutt: | and most people use the rpms |
| [02:39:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: cause that could be the case. |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: not specifically mythtv-setup, no |
| [02:39:00] | Chutt: | not the source |
| [02:39:00] | xpis: | Chutt: there are still as of yet no RPMs to download |
| [02:39:00] | Chutt: | so? |
| [02:39:00] | Chris123: | I can schedule any recordings but if i use anything else that acesses the Db pretty much kills my tuner to statis |
| [02:40:00] | Chutt: | you think people are going to try to figure out how to compile on their own instead of waiting a day or two? |
| [02:40:00] | Juski: | but look in the terminal window you're running mythtv-setup from |
| [02:40:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: If its hosing the db then possibly whatever changes are made in setup have no effect and hence the static. |
| [02:40:00] | Chutt: | doesn't happen :p |
| [02:40:00] | dtm: | xpis: who makes the rpms usually? |
| [02:40:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: no errors |
| [02:40:00] | Chutt: | axel thimm |
| [02:40:00] | xpis: | dtm: They are hosted on atrpms. No idea who makes them. |
| [02:40:00] | Chris123: | Juski: no errors in terminal |
| [02:40:00] | Z-Morek: | axel puts them on atrpms |
| [02:40:00] | Chris123: | mythbackend.log is fine aswell |
| [02:40:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: sorry but I'm out of my depth here.. like I already said I've got no idea what's gone wrong there |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | I've never heard of that sort of thing happenning til now, and my experience has mostly been very good |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | had a knoppmyth live cd crash a backend once or twice, but I stopped trying it ;-) |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | it didn't actually _break_ anything |
| [02:42:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: So now the question is how to delete the db? |
| [02:43:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: Or can I just run the my.sql script and rebuild it? |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | I'd go out on a limb & say maybe mysql is shitting itself because of all the queries.. and that's how the DB is getting corrupted |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: nothing to lose, do drop the database and run the my.sql step |
| [02:44:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: my sql experience is crap. SO I don't even know how to drop the database |
| [02:44:00] | Juski: | I cant remember right now.. I know a really bad way to do it though |
| [02:44:00] | Chris123: | Wish I had mysqllite GUI |
| [02:44:00] | Juski: | a lot of people swear by phpmyadmin |
| [02:45:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: Yeah i've used phpmyadmin before |
| [02:45:00] | chuckyp: | Chris123: Alright I have to go the people on here can help you a lot more than i can. |
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| [02:46:00] | Juski: | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/drop-database.html |
| [02:46:00] | jnunez: | Im having an issue with my PVR-150 after an ivtv. The Watch TV output is clipped on the right side. |
| [02:46:00] | Juski: | jnunez: what do you mean 'clipped'? |
| [02:47:00] | Chris123: | Juski: Thanks for all your help made some headway ill play around and see where I can get |
| [02:47:00] | Juski: | half the screen missing? a narrow line? |
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| [02:47:00] | jnunez: | juski: about a couple inches of the image is missing. I can't see the CBS logo on the right side |
| [02:48:00] | Juski: | Chris123: I'd still be worried about your system... FC & mythtv is a well tested combination. you should be aware that some FC4 users have had serious problems recently (so I heard) |
| [02:48:00] | Juski: | jnunez: did you upgrade ivtv? |
| [02:49:00] | Chris123: | ivtv is .4.2 |
| [02:49:00] | Juski: | what are your recording sizes? still 480x480? try changing em to see if it helps.. could be a problem with scaling in the driver |
| [02:49:00] | Chris123: | im running dual 2.4 ghz xeons and 1 gb of ram |
| [02:49:00] | Juski: | Chris123: that should be more than enough |
| [02:49:00] | Chris123: | :p |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | hell my 800 smeg athlon with 256mb coped with all these files without ever coughing |
| [02:51:00] | Z-Morek: | install complete |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | and lots of lesser systems have no problems.. I'd suspect a software/memory problem (ish) in your case.. but as I already said – it's uncharted territory from my point of view |
| [02:51:00] | Z-Morek: | reboot in progress |
| [02:53:00] | jnunez: | juski: I did upgrade ivtv and my size is the default 480x480 (it worked before) |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | jnunez: "it worked before" the upgrade is a sign that the upgrade borked it ;) |
| [02:54:00] | jnunez: | what is the ideal setting for the PVR cards? |
| [02:54:00] | Juski: | jnunez – if scaling works properly, then anything that works |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | if in doubt, whack it up to full resolution (720x480 for NTSC, 720x576 for PAL) |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | I tried 480x480 with 0.4.1 and didn't find it to be good enough, so I now use 720x576 |
| [02:56:00] | jnunez: | thanks juski I'll start messing with it. My daughter is currently pissed. She missed her cartoons cause all of the recordings were clipped today |
| [02:56:00] | Juski: | ouch! |
| [02:56:00] | Juski: | having a look on the ivtv forum/list would be a very good idea too... |
| [02:56:00] | jnunez: | yup reading it now |
| [02:56:00] | Juski: | or ask in #ivtv-dev |
| [02:56:00] | Z-Morek: | ok installed |
| [02:56:00] | Juski: | (read first though, eh) ;-) |
| [02:57:00] | Z-Morek: | and mythbackend isn't running... |
| [02:57:00] | Juski: | here we go... |
| [02:57:00] | Z-Morek: | something about libmyth |
| [02:57:00] | Juski: | right I'm off to bed.. lots to do tomorrow. sadly upgrading isn't on my list yet |
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| [02:58:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( |
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| [03:04:00] | Z-Morek: | could this be svn related? |
| [03:07:00] | djperegrine: | jnunez, my recording have been clipped alot |
| [03:08:00] | djperegrine: | accually all of them |
| [03:09:00] | Z-Morek: | what's the actual url of the 0.19 tarball |
| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can'y navigate mythtv.org ? |
| [03:11:00] | Z-Morek: | nvm |
| [03:11:00] | Z-Morek: | I was trying to use wget in console |
| [03:11:00] | Ryushin: | Which SVN number is actually .19? |
| [03:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | 8962 I believe |
| [03:12:00] | Z-Morek: | well I followed the instructions on compiling and installing the svn from the docs |
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| [03:13:00] | Z-Morek: | and when I try to start mythbackend it says the libmyth library doesn't exist only it does |
| [03:14:00] | Z-Morek: | I probably screwed up something really small |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | did you actually remove the packaged version first? Cause it sounds like you have a mix of stuff on there |
| [03:14:00] | Z-Morek: | I went into apt and removed the packages |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | most packages are installed in different locations and the source builds, so just installing from source it wouldn't overwrite |
| [03:15:00] | Z-Morek: | well does it make a difference where I download the tarball and compile it? |
| [03:15:00] | Z-Morek: | I probably screwed that up |
| [03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | not really |
| [03:16:00] | Z-Morek: | would it make a difference if I compiled it as root rather than the user? |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | sounds to me like you are running a leftover binary |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | cept you would need to be root to install it |
| [03:18:00] | Z-Morek: | so by doing apt-get remove it doesn't really remove does it? |
| [03:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would assume it should, but I've never used apt-get |
| [03:19:00] | Z-Morek: | :-\ |
| [03:21:00] | Z-Morek: | if when I removed during apt |
| [03:21:00] | Z-Morek: | and mythbackend and frontend were running |
| [03:21:00] | Z-Morek: | and continued running while I compiled and installed would that be significant? |
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| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Z-Morek: try this |
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| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | type into a shell |
| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | which mythbackend |
| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | what does it return ? |
| [03:25:00] | Z-Morek: | only /usr/local/bin/mythbackend |
| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the timestamp on ls -la /usr/local/bin/mythbackend |
| [03:26:00] | Z-Morek: | feb 11th |
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| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | as root run ldconfig |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | then try launching it again |
| [03:27:00] | Z-Morek: | it won't let me do the command "ldconfig" |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | "as root" |
| [03:28:00] | Z-Morek: | I am root |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it wont LET you do it ? |
| [03:28:00] | Z-Morek: | it says command not found |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | what is the error ? |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe you're new to this unix stuff huh ?:) |
| [03:28:00] | Z-Morek: | very |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | try /sbin/ldconfig |
| [03:29:00] | Z-Morek: | I had a feeling.... |
| [03:29:00] | Z-Morek: | AHHHHHHh |
| [03:29:00] | Z-Morek: | okay it's running..... |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | the backend or ldconfig ? |
| [03:30:00] | Z-Morek: | ldconfig :-p |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | when done try mythbackend again |
| [03:30:00] | Z-Morek: | error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.19.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | run "find /usr -name libmythtv-0.19.so.0" |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | see if/where it finds a match |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | it might take a moment |
| [03:31:00] | Z-Morek: | spits out: /usr/local/lib/libmythtv-0.19.so.0 |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | and is /usr/local/lib in your /etc/ld.so.conf file ? |
| [03:33:00] | Z-Morek: | include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf |
| [03:33:00] | Z-Morek: | oops |
| [03:33:00] | Z-Morek: | didn't copy everything |
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| [03:33:00] | Z-Morek: | it has /usr/.....ggraphics... |
| [03:33:00] | Z-Morek: | that line i pasted earlier |
| [03:34:00] | Z-Morek: | and /usr/x11 and /usr/lib/mysql |
| [03:34:00] | Z-Morek: | I abbreviated |
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| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | All I need to know is, is "/usr/local/lib" in there ? :) |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | if not, add it |
| [03:35:00] | Z-Morek: | added |
| [03:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | run ldconfig again |
| [03:35:00] | Z-Morek: | backend running |
| [03:35:00] | Z-Morek: | so what just occurred? |
| [03:35:00] | Z-Morek: | what is ldconfig? |
| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | it builds a "cache" of where the various shared libraries are on your box so that apps can load them without actually knowing where they are installed |
| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the directory containing libmyth wasn't included in your cache |
| [03:37:00] | Z-Morek: | right |
| [03:37:00] | Z-Morek: | and that cropped up now and not on the apt builds because... |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | because they didn't install under /usr/local |
| [03:38:00] | Z-Morek: | mmmmmm |
| [03:38:00] | Z-Morek: | touche |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | they installed under /usr which |
| [03:38:00] | Z-Morek: | thanks a lot |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | is in the various patches and such |
| [03:38:00] | Z-Morek: | now I just gotta reconfigure the start-on-boot things |
| [03:38:00] | Z-Morek: | and I'm good to go |
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| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can send the $20USD to my paypal account :) |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | ;) |
| [03:40:00] | Z-Morek: | hey I thought this was a community thing :-P |
| [03:40:00] | Z-Morek: | people helping people |
| [03:41:00] | Z-Morek: | pro bono :-P |
| [03:41:00] | scottder: | You'd be helping by sending the $20 |
| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | exactly |
| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | helping me be here to help others |
| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | and besides, I'm a money whore :) |
| [03:42:00] | scottder: | hehe "Say big boy, what features do you want!" |
| [03:42:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [03:42:00] | ** Z-Morek shudders ** | |
| [03:43:00] | Z-Morek: | the thought of a developer type saying that scares me |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:43:00] | Z-Morek: | noone in a t-shirt that commemorates some open source software should say something with such thick innuendo |
| [03:44:00] | Z-Morek: | and use the words "big boy" |
| [03:44:00] | ** Z-Morek vomits a little ** | |
| [03:44:00] | Z-Morek: | :-P |
| [03:44:00] | Z-Morek: | anyways |
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| [03:44:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm off to learn how to make init scripts |
| [03:45:00] | alex777: | ok, here it is, I set up my mythbox, and I ran the mythfilldatabase but my time was in UTC |
| [03:46:00] | alex777: | after changing my time to the correct time zone, the program guide still is like 6 hours wrongs |
| [03:46:00] | alex777: | wrong* |
| [03:46:00] | alex777: | can I change that or can I just wipe the program guide and rerun mythfilldatabase ? |
| [03:46:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah I can see how what I said could be taken in a bad way I merely meant a developer type whoring himself on a street corner saying that |
| [03:46:00] | Z-Morek: | it's icky |
| [03:48:00] | Z-Morek: | seppuku time |
| [03:48:00] | scottder: | I have made someone shudder, my work here is done :) |
| [03:50:00] | Z-Morek: | thanks a lot :-p |
| [03:52:00] | Z-Morek: | okay |
| [03:53:00] | Z-Morek: | so compiling on my own is a LOT harder in general |
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| [03:53:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( |
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| [03:57:00] | Octane: | anyone here have a change channel script for a settop box that needs you to send out each channel digit seperately? the change channel script that i have sends them all at once |
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| [04:09:00] | ShockValue: | mythtv.org down? |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | ShockValue: works for me |
| [04:11:00] | Z-Morek: | works for me |
| [04:11:00] | ShockValue: | ah there we go.. had to /flushdns |
| [04:11:00] | ShockValue: | false alarm, sorry |
| [04:12:00] | Z-Morek: | okay so I got the init script setup |
| [04:12:00] | Z-Morek: | frontend starts on boot |
| [04:12:00] | Z-Morek: | but I gotta fix lirc AGAIN for like the 100th time since I made my myth computer |
| [04:12:00] | djperegrine: | hrh |
| [04:13:00] | Z-Morek: | okay lircd is running and accepting commands |
| [04:13:00] | Z-Morek: | myth however is not recognizing it |
| [04:13:00] | Z-Morek: | hmmmmmmmmm |
| [04:15:00] | topping: | Z-Morek: didja configure with --enable-lirc? |
| [04:16:00] | Octane: | anyone? |
| [04:16:00] | ** topping is currently debugging the same problem when compiling from svn ** | |
| [04:17:00] | Z-Morek: | topping: probably not |
| [04:17:00] | Z-Morek: | I just did it defaults |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | Well |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | Gentoo has 0.19 ebuilds |
| [04:18:00] | Cardoe: | and is mirroring the tarball |
| [04:18:00] | djperegrine: | I am waiting for debian :D |
| [04:18:00] | djperegrine: | then I will get it |
| [04:20:00] | Z-Morek: | by default when compiling lirc is disabled |
| [04:20:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( |
| [04:20:00] | Z-Morek: | there is no way I'm compiling again |
| [04:20:00] | topping: | i can't get it to enable actually |
| [04:20:00] | topping: | it's odd |
| [04:21:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( |
| [04:21:00] | Z-Morek: | perhaps it was unwise to use svn being the noob I am |
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| [04:22:00] | topping: | Z-Morek: nah, it's good experience |
| [04:22:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ohla |
| [04:22:00] | topping: | this is how to graduate out of n00b |
| [04:22:00] | Z-Morek: | it sucks |
| [04:22:00] | Yellow-Snow: | f graduating |
| [04:22:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im always going to be one |
| [04:22:00] | topping: | yah, but if it were, easy, everyone would be doing it |
| [04:23:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ^^ |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | anyways |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | is there any immediate solution? |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | the docs say if you don't use lirc native you can use irxevent |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | but it won't run in console for me |
| [04:23:00] | Z-Morek: | at least not over ssh |
| [04:24:00] | Z-Morek: | and when I run it on the mythbackend/frontend terminal in background mode |
| [04:25:00] | Z-Morek: | frontend still won't respond to remote |
| [04:25:00] | Z-Morek: | and I know the remote is configured and setup correctly, I just upgraded from a fully working setup |
| [04:25:00] | Z-Morek: | and irw picked up everything |
| [04:25:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: so, are you going to install mythtv 0.19 now, or wait until knoppmyth releases an update? |
| [04:26:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: with fedora, you would get binaries quicker than knoppmyth |
| [04:26:00] | Z-Morek: | or you can compile on your own like I did! :-P |
| [04:26:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm exiting noobdom |
| [04:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | xpis not sure man |
| [04:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i might do both |
| [04:27:00] | Z-Morek: | and while lirc is imploding |
| [04:27:00] | Z-Morek: | I'll figure out themes |
| [04:27:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: Or, you could use gentoo. It will automate most things, but it will take forever to install. Everything will have to be compiled. |
| [04:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | themes are easy |
| [04:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ew yuck sounds no fun |
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| [04:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | there is not just 1 command to run |
| [04:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | but multi commands eh? |
| [04:28:00] | xpis: | Yellow-Snow: you would just have to use the gentoo livecd to start the install process. Then, while it is installing, go to sleep. Wake up, do some things, and before bed tomorrow it might be done installing. |
| [04:28:00] | bmk789: | woah, new version, sweet |
| [04:28:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i mean i could but imo there is not point right now to hurry and do it |
| [04:29:00] | ole_schoola: | Z-Morek: crossing the equator to meet King Neptune, eh? |
| [04:33:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah.... |
| [04:33:00] | Z-Morek: | never in my life have I heard an analogy like that |
| [04:33:00] | Z-Morek: | actually |
| [04:34:00] | Z-Morek: | I heard something like "she's going to texas by passing through alasa [from connecticut]" |
| [04:34:00] | Z-Morek: | but yeah... |
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| [04:34:00] | ole_schoola: | Z-morek: US Navy tradition for new sailors |
| [04:37:00] | Z-Morek: | and my alasa I meant alaska |
| [04:38:00] | Z-Morek: | mmm |
| [04:39:00] | Z-Morek: | way over my head :-P |
| [04:39:00] | ole_schoola: | so was i, don't let it get you down |
| [04:39:00] | Z-Morek: | done |
| [04:39:00] | ole_schoola: | i'm off to bed right now but i'll pitch in tomorrow and lend a hand |
| [04:39:00] | Z-Morek: | I installed themes but they aren't showing up GRRRRRRr |
| [04:40:00] | Z-Morek: | and lirc isn't working |
| [04:40:00] | Z-Morek: | all in a days work |
| [04:40:00] | Z-Morek: | with every upgrade something else breaks |
| [04:40:00] | Z-Morek: | :-( |
| [04:40:00] | ole_schoola: | welcome to Myth Unplugged |
| [04:40:00] | Z-Morek: | I was better off as a noobling with rpms |
| [04:41:00] | Z-Morek: | I think I'm gonna call it a night too |
| [04:41:00] | Z-Morek: | I can fix it tomorrow |
| [04:41:00] | ole_schoola: | excellent idea |
| [04:41:00] | Z-Morek: | as long as teh backend is trucking along |
| [04:41:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm good |
| [04:41:00] | ole_schoola: | lirc never got fixed for me until after a good nights sleep |
| [04:42:00] | Z-Morek: | lirc broke on me many times |
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| [04:42:00] | Z-Morek: | I've gone without before I'll go without again |
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| [04:53:00] | ShockValue: | Cardoe: are you around? |
| [04:55:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [04:55:00] | ShockValue: | workin on the ebuild for 19? and is there anything i can do to help out? (besides leaving you alone? :) |
| [04:56:00] | ** Cardoe looks at the Portage tree. ** | |
| [04:56:00] | ** Cardoe sees a 0.19 ebuild there already. ** | |
| [04:56:00] | ShockValue: | you rock :) |
| [04:56:00] | ShockValue: | my emerge sync keeps timing out :( |
| [04:56:00] | ** Cardoe goes back to watching South Park. ** | |
| [04:56:00] | Cardoe: | what's up with your connection? |
| [04:57:00] | ShockValue: | i dont know.. i keep getting to about 13k files to consider.. and it times out... on 3 different mirrors |
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| [04:57:00] | ShockValue: | i'd like to reboot it, but my wife is watchign ice skating :) |
| [04:58:00] | Cardoe: | odd |
| [04:58:00] | bmk789: | id be willing to help |
| [04:58:00] | ShockValue: | ah wel.. i'll keep hammering on it.. thanks for your work on the ebuild.. make my life easier :) |
| [04:58:00] | awb4422: | If i have an hd3000 can I output the captured tv shows via svideo to my standard def tv until i buy an hdtv? |
| [04:59:00] | Cardoe: | awb4422: does your TV support svideo? |
| [04:59:00] | awb4422: | yes |
| [05:00:00] | ShockValue: | 137179 files to consider |
| [05:00:00] | ShockValue: | io timeout after 180 seconds — exiting |
| [05:00:00] | awb4422: | i dont have to transcode first or anything then |
| [05:00:00] | awb4422: | just straight hd recordings are fine? and it wont fry my tv? |
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| [05:05:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey |
| [05:05:00] | awb4422: | hey |
| [05:05:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is the pvr-150 remote able to be programed to a tv? |
| [05:05:00] | awb4422: | what do you mean? |
| [05:05:00] | awb4422: | as in universal? |
| [05:05:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea |
| [05:05:00] | Yellow-Snow: | no right? |
| [05:05:00] | ShockValue: | the hauppauge remotes arent programmable |
| [05:05:00] | awb4422: | not to my knowledge |
| [05:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | bummer =\ |
| [05:06:00] | awb4422: | buy a logitech harmony |
| [05:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | how much? |
| [05:06:00] | awb4422: | and get your lircrc working and then send it over here ;) |
| [05:06:00] | ShockValue: | they pretty basic remotes that work ok for myth.. but they wont do any other components |
| [05:06:00] | awb4422: | the 600 series i was looking at is around $125 |
| [05:06:00] | ShockValue: | i have an older model logitech series.. love it. |
| [05:06:00] | Yellow-Snow: | no thx |
| [05:06:00] | awb4422: | the 800 series is over 2 bills i believe |
| [05:07:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i want one like this |
| [05:07:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?p . . . tPage=search |
| [05:07:00] | awb4422: | i believe jarod wilson has one |
| [05:08:00] | awb4422: | he wrote about it in the universal remote section of his website |
| [05:08:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i want a plain and simple one |
| [05:08:00] | Yellow-Snow: | those are the best |
| [05:08:00] | Yellow-Snow: | f all those buttons |
| [05:09:00] | ShockValue: | i like mine :) http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/5858.jpg |
| [05:09:00] | awb4422: | nice |
| [05:09:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yuck |
| [05:09:00] | ShockValue: | it doesnt have the fancy LCD screen like the new ones, but i hardly use that section of the remote anyway |
| [05:10:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yup |
| [05:10:00] | ShockValue: | "aspect ratio" is about the only button i couldnt fit on the regular pad |
| [05:11:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?p . . . tPage=search |
| [05:11:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i think im going to get that one |
| [05:11:00] | Chutt: | i paid $160 for my 880 |
| [05:11:00] | Yellow-Snow: | tho i want an OK button =\ |
| [05:11:00] | Chutt: | they're on sale regularly. |
| [05:11:00] | awb4422: | chutt: from where? |
| [05:11:00] | awb4422: | chutt: thats an AWESOME deal lol |
| [05:12:00] | Chutt: | either amazon or buy.com |
| [05:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 688 160 |
| [05:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | right now |
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| [05:21:00] | Cardoe: | What do you guys think of the mythtv ebuild pulling in the mythtv themes automatically? |
| [05:22:00] | ShockValue: | i dont know of anyone who doesn't emerge them anyway... |
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| [05:23:00] | Cardoe: | well sometimes people aren't aware |
| [05:23:00] | Cardoe: | or forget |
| [05:23:00] | Cardoe: | like I did on one of my boxes |
| [05:25:00] | ShockValue: | right, what i meant was.. might as well do it automatically since it's needed and everyone does it. |
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| [05:27:00] | Yellow-Snow: | what about myhtdvd |
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| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/02/66/16/74/00026 . . . _500X500.jpg |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/p . . . 77906_sa.jpg |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | someone pick one so i can order it |
| [05:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | can't decide out of those 2 |
| [05:30:00] | ShockValue: | well, the phillips looks 1 step less ghetto :) |
| [05:30:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 1 step less? |
| [05:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i like the OK buttons in the middle of the arrows |
| [05:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | but i also like on the other remote how the volume and channel are big and not in a circle |
| [05:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | sony is not learnable |
| [05:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | =\ |
| [05:31:00] | ShockValue: | i find that i rarely use the ch+ and ch- buttons in mythtv |
| [05:32:00] | ShockValue: | its all about easy direction and ok buttons |
| [05:32:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yea tho its universal |
| [05:32:00] | Yellow-Snow: | so i use it for the tv also |
| [05:32:00] | Yellow-Snow: | .. |
| [05:32:00] | ShockValue: | but... if you have mythtv, why do you need to do antying on the Tv set itself except adjust volume maybe? |
| [05:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | um |
| [05:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i dont watch live tv from it |
| [05:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | volume.. and um hm |
| [05:34:00] | ShockValue: | my perspective is a bit skewed though.. my "tv' doesnt have speakers or a tv tuner |
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| [05:51:00] | scott_: | hell yeah!!! |
| [05:51:00] | scott_: | 0.19 ! !! ! !! who is excited? |
| [05:51:00] | ** lane raises his hand ** | |
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| [05:52:00] | drunqen: | hi all |
| [05:52:00] | scott_: | YO! |
| [05:52:00] | drunqen: | can anyone answer a goofy mplayer question for me real quick? |
| [05:53:00] | lane: | maybe |
| [05:53:00] | drunqen: | i am using an mplayer command line that has -zoom and -vf expand=-65 |
| [05:53:00] | drunqen: | this fits a fullscreen mplayer movie perfectly inside the overscan of my hdtv |
| [05:53:00] | drunqen: | BUT, it leaves nasty gray bars on either side of the movie (according to the expand= arg, of course) |
| [05:54:00] | drunqen: | any ideas on how to change the color of those gray bars to just plain black? |
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| [05:54:00] | ** drunqen crosses his fingers in anticipation ** | |
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| [05:54:00] | cosmo_: | electrical tape ;) |
| [05:55:00] | drunqen: | heh |
| [05:55:00] | cosmo_: | Ive got a similar problem in normal tv playback, so if you find out, pm it to me in case I dont check my irc window for a few days ;) |
| [05:55:00] | drunqen: | well, its frustrating because it lets me fit my movies perfectly inside the overscan. |
| [05:56:00] | cosmo_: | oh, nevermind, you mean to the left and right? |
| [05:56:00] | Gumby`: | does anyone know if there is a way to start a recording and choose which tuner gets chosen for it? |
| [05:56:00] | drunqen: | but the gray bars on either side cause a "light leak" on my screen, which reflects off the glass (crt) into dark scenes of the movie |
| [05:56:00] | drunqen: | cosmo_: yeah, left and right |
| [05:57:00] | cosmo_: | yuck, that is indeed nasty, afraid Ive never dealt with it |
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| [05:58:00] | drunqen: | its a hack fix, but the only thing stopping it from being perfect is the color of the negative "expand" area |
| [05:58:00] | ShockValue: | drunqen: im not sure if this would help or not.. but try googling for xvattr and the argument "xv_colorkey" |
| [05:58:00] | drunqen: | its gotta be something stupid too |
| [05:59:00] | ShockValue: | i had a nasty 1 pixel horizontal bar that was bright blue above my playback.. i used xvattr to turn it black |
| [06:00:00] | drunqen: | ShockValue: thanks, im googling now to see what it does |
| [06:01:00] | ShockValue: | anyone know how to get rid of the mouse curser for that 1 or 2 seconds i shows up when starting mplayer or xine from the frontend? |
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| [06:02:00] | ShockValue: | guess it might not matter with .19 since it has a built in dvd player :) |
| [06:03:00] | scott_: | it does? |
| [06:03:00] | ShockValue: | so ive heard |
| [06:03:00] | ShockValue: | havent seen it myself yet.. still waiting for portage to update with 19 |
| [06:03:00] | k-man_: | ahh, nice to see 0.19 is out |
| [06:03:00] | k-man_: | anyone tried it out yet? |
| [06:04:00] | scott_: | compiling now |
| [06:04:00] | drunqen: | No luck with xvattr |
| [06:04:00] | drunqen: | :( |
| [06:04:00] | drunqen: | was hoping to find something from mplayer on how to change it |
| [06:04:00] | drunqen: | still scouring the man pages |
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| [06:11:00] | simcop2387: | 0.19 is out!?!?! wtf am i doing with 0.18.1? |
| [06:13:00] | simcop2387: | SWEET MERCIFUL GODS WHAT AN AWSOME BIRTHDAY PRESENT |
| [06:13:00] | Cardoe: | um |
| [06:13:00] | Cardoe: | take a breath |
| [06:13:00] | ** ShockValue commands the portage gods to update his local mirror for 0.19! ** | |
| [06:14:00] | simcop2387: | hehe |
| [06:14:00] | simcop2387: | i've been waiting for 0.19 for a while :) |
| [06:16:00] | k-man_: | simcop2387, haven't we all? |
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| [06:16:00] | simcop2387: | k-man: well it wasn't released on your 21st birthday |
| [06:16:00] | k-man_: | is there an upgrade procedure document somewhere? (0.18.1->0.19) |
| [06:16:00] | ShockValue: | wtf,,, its your 21st and you're waiting on software? (you must not be from the US :) |
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| [06:24:00] | Cardoe: | I haven't messed with mythcontrols |
| [06:24:00] | k-man_: | whats the situation with debian builts of mythtv these days? |
| [06:24:00] | Cardoe: | wtf does it do in a sentense |
| [06:24:00] | k-man_: | is anyone maintianing them any more? |
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| [06:27:00] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: i am from the US but i don't feel like i belong |
| [06:29:00] | ShockValue: | simcop2387: i understand completely... i dream of sailing away (once i get my boat) never to return |
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| [06:31:00] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: i'm starting my own country once i figure out how to raise parts of the techtonic plates, then i won't let anyone on or i'll detonate a 1.1trillion kiloton nuclear warhead |
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| [06:32:00] | ShockValue: | I wouldnt want the hassle of running my own government |
| [06:32:00] | simcop2387: | ShockValue: it'd all be run but an AI |
| [06:33:00] | ShockValue: | 0.19 AI? |
| [06:34:00] | Gumby`: | I have three tuners in two different boxes. Is there any way to specify which tuner will record a specific show? or just to start a recording manually with a specific tuner? |
| [06:35:00] | MattC: | why do you want to do that? |
| [06:35:00] | simcop2387: | by* |
| [06:35:00] | Gumby`: | to test out a specific card. the reason isnt really relative to the question though. I just want to know if its possible. Either it is or isnt and either you know the answer or dont |
| [06:36:00] | simcop2387: | Gumby: you could probably do that in livetv easily, by switching tuners |
| [06:36:00] | Gumby`: | simcop2387: I'm not local to either box ATM |
| [06:36:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [06:36:00] | simcop2387: | upgrade to 0.19 and you can do it with telnet! |
| [06:36:00] | Gumby`: | hehe |
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| [06:37:00] | Gumby`: | if I had a devel box I'd do it. UNfortunately I dont |
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| [06:41:00] | simcop2387: | Gumby: 0.19 was released |
| [06:41:00] | simcop2387: | not dev anymore |
| [06:41:00] | Tank-: | I have this weird problem were certain australia channels don't have audio in LiveTv unless you start on one of those channels. As soon as you change to a channel that works all the time they stop working. Does anyone know if this was fixed in .19 |
| [06:41:00] | Tank-: | I can't find the problem documented anywhere. |
| [06:42:00] | simcop2387: | what tuner |
| [06:42:00] | Tank-: | dvbt bt8xx |
| [06:42:00] | Gumby`: | simcop2387: I just get everything up and running. I'm not willing ATM to upgrade the RPM's I've just installed. I can wait 24hrs until I get home to test the tuners :) |
| [06:43:00] | Gumby`: | unless of course I can find either official fedora c4 rpms or atrpm's to upgrade with |
| [06:43:00] | Tank-: | Twinhan VisionPlus DVB |
| [06:43:00] | simcop2387: | Gumby: schedule 3 recordings and check them out if they work find |
| [06:43:00] | simcop2387: | fine* |
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| [06:44:00] | Gumby`: | simcop2387: part of the problem is that when i do that the box tends to crash |
| [06:44:00] | simcop2387: | ooo |
| [06:45:00] | simcop2387: | sounds like you'll probably have to wait then? |
| [06:45:00] | simcop2387: | could always play with tuners priorities and make that one highest |
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| [06:46:00] | Gumby`: | yeah, I might try that |
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| [06:51:00] | Tank-: | anyone know the timeline on the debian packaging of .19 for unstable. |
| [06:51:00] | akira_: | has anybody had any issues with mysql 5 and mythtv 18.1? |
| [06:51:00] | simcop2387: | i think some people have IIRC, check the mailing lists? |
| [06:52:00] | akira_: | yea, mythsetup and mythbackend both give QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
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| [06:53:00] | Chutt: | that has nothing to do with mysql 5. |
| [06:57:00] | akira_: | Chutt, what is it then? i had this problem months ago, but can't recall what i did to fix it |
| [06:57:00] | Chutt: | it's in the docs. |
| [06:58:00] | akira_: | i looked |
| [07:00:00] | Gumby`: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003-April/001924.html |
| [07:00:00] | Gumby`: | I googled mythtv QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [07:00:00] | Gumby`: | imagine that, first hit |
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| [07:00:00] | akira_: | yea i saw that, and couldn't find any mysql / qt packages |
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| [07:01:00] | Gumby`: | which distro? |
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| [07:02:00] | akira_: | gentoo |
| [07:03:00] | akira_: | and 'mysql' isn't available a use option to qt |
| [07:03:00] | simcop2387: | what qt version? |
| [07:03:00] | akira_: | nm. i got it. |
| [07:03:00] | simcop2387: | because it is for mine |
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| [07:03:00] | akira_: | 'emerge -pv qt' didn't show mysql as being an option |
| [07:04:00] | simcop2387: | it does for me |
| [07:04:00] | Gumby`: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Ho . . . ed_things.3F |
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| [07:43:00] | Tank-: | ok, how do i open a bug item, to get some sort of resolution to the wierd audio bug in livetv |
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| [07:45:00] | ShockValue: | whats the weird audio bug you speak of? |
| [07:45:00] | eiggirC: | I'm getting the weirdest colour problems.... liveTV and recorded files are very dull. Another front-end is fine.... |
| [07:45:00] | eiggirC: | turns out that this frontend needed Xv controls turned on |
| [07:45:00] | eiggirC: | but if I turn that on for another I get over-bright picture |
| [07:45:00] | eiggirC: | how weird is that |
| [07:46:00] | ShockValue: | different video cards, different drivers, different TV's ? |
| [07:47:00] | eiggirC: | ShockValue: there's no TV involved... The bad one was a laptop with LCD screen, the good one is a desktop with a CRT |
| [07:49:00] | ShockValue: | wee.. i just bought myself a router for my birthday :) |
| [07:49:00] | eiggirC: | cool |
| [07:50:00] | akira_: | is there a video card that can handle digital cable? |
| [07:50:00] | ShockValue: | no |
| [07:50:00] | eiggirC: | akira_: no idea. I only get four channels :) |
| [07:50:00] | akira_: | why not? is it licensing or something? |
| [07:51:00] | akira_: | i want to be able to record hbo and what not, and that's all in the digital range for me |
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| [07:51:00] | ShockValue: | AFAIK there's only one card, and its not really supported or on the market yet: http://news.com.com/FAQ+CableCard+Whats+that/ . . . 5542400.html |
| [07:51:00] | ShockValue: | akira_ you can.. you just have to get mythtv to control your cable box |
| [07:52:00] | akira_: | yea, i don't have a cable box in my room, that's downstairs. |
| [07:53:00] | ShockValue: | i just set my directv box next to my myth-backend so it can changethe channels via a serial cable |
| [07:54:00] | akira_: | yea, i was hoping they'd leave the digital reciever when we got a dvr from adelphia |
| [07:54:00] | akira_: | but they jacked it. |
| [07:55:00] | ShockValue: | i dont remember updating the portage cache in gentoo taking so long.. it takes like 15 minutes.. is that normal? |
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| [07:57:00] | scott: | a! I can't get "default" aka mythcenter theme working, doesn't even list it as an option |
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| [08:01:00] | ShockValue: | scott – what linux brand? |
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| [08:13:00] | ShockValue: | emerging 0.19 now.. so exciting :) |
| [08:13:00] | eiggirC: | brave souls |
| [08:14:00] | ShockValue: | ive heard nothing but good reports from SVN users... so im hopefull |
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| [08:32:00] | akira_: | what are the big difference btwn 18.1 and 19? |
| [08:33:00] | ShockValue: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.19#MythTV |
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| [08:46:00] | Thrilla: | anyone awake? |
| [08:47:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, but not sober :) |
| [08:48:00] | Thrilla: | just looking for a good set of instructions for settingup a WinTV-GO....mine;s getting nothing but static |
| [08:49:00] | ShockValue: | ew.. sorry, im the wrong guy |
| [08:49:00] | eiggirC: | Thrilla: I have one of those on a shelf waiting to go into my mythbox :) |
| [08:49:00] | eiggirC: | Thrilla: btw – static is good |
| [08:49:00] | eiggirC: | static shows the tuner is getting something |
| [08:49:00] | eiggirC: | you need to look at channel tuning in mythtv-setup |
| [08:49:00] | Thrilla: | yeah, and I can record static too.... |
| [08:50:00] | eiggirC: | mmmm kwality digital static :) |
| [08:50:00] | Thrilla: | in stereo |
| [08:50:00] | eiggirC: | to get static means you've got past all the firmware issues etc. |
| [08:50:00] | eiggirC: | so feel confident you're making progress |
| [08:50:00] | Thrilla: | what am I looking for in the setup? Havent really found a detailed set of instructions for specific cards |
| [08:51:00] | ShockValue: | it seems that staring at the 0.19 compile isnt helping it go any faster |
| [08:51:00] | eiggirC: | ShockValue: distcc is your friend |
| [08:51:00] | Thrilla: | Using KnoppMyth.... |
| [08:51:00] | eiggirC: | 21 seconds to compile a linux kernel, using 60 P4 machines :) |
| [08:52:00] | ShockValue: | well, i only have 3 in the house, and myth is the only one running rinux |
| [08:53:00] | Thrilla: | Is there a way to make Myth scan for channels rather than use the Zap2it listings? |
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| [09:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wow alot of changes with 19 |
| [09:02:00] | ShockValue: | they've increased the compile time by 25% too! |
| [09:02:00] | ShockValue: | ;) |
| [09:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [09:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I wont be upgrading for a while though hehe |
| [09:03:00] | Thrilla: | Question...I have a WinTV Go that is just giving me static. As a general rule, are the settings easier to manage on a hardware based card like the PVR-150, etc? |
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| [09:14:00] | aep: | hihi |
| [09:15:00] | aep: | is it true, that the remote of the pvr150 is supported by lirc (and mythv) |
| [09:17:00] | ShockValue: | hrm, mythweb bombs out on me with the gentoo ebuild |
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| [09:24:00] | Cardoe: | ShockValue: k |
| [09:24:00] | Cardoe: | I've only tested mythtv & mythtv-themes |
| [09:24:00] | Cardoe: | my myth box isn't too functional right now. |
| [09:25:00] | Cardoe: | I haven't had a chance to play with the plugins and mythweb yet |
| [09:25:00] | Cardoe: | that's why it's still masked |
| [09:26:00] | Cardoe: | ShockValue: if you wanna test.. :) |
| [09:27:00] | beavis: | do you guys know if DVB-channels from 0.18.1 will be automatically used in 0.19? |
| [09:27:00] | beavis: | since the channel table format has changed |
| [09:28:00] | ShockValue: | Cardoe – ill help test if you need something from me |
| [09:29:00] | Cardoe: | Just test it |
| [09:29:00] | Cardoe: | beavis: yeah it'll upgrade it |
| [09:29:00] | beavis: | ok thanks |
| [09:29:00] | ShockValue: | mythvideo seemed to compile fine |
| [09:31:00] | ShockValue: | as did mythtv obviously |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: are you talking about 0.18 mythweb? |
| [09:31:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe I haven't had a chance to play with the plugins and mythweb yet Cardoe that's why it's still masked |
| [09:31:00] | Cardoe: | 0.19 |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh ok |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nvm heh |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am half asleep |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ignore my mindless babble |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was meaning ~ not masked lol bleh |
| [09:32:00] | ** SlicerDicer- shuts up now ** | |
| [09:32:00] | ShockValue: | cardoe: ebuild fault: file '/usr/share/webapps/mythweb/0.19/htdocs/config/conf.php' not found |
| [09:33:00] | fryfrog: | ohhh, 0.18 |
| [09:33:00] | fryfrog: | er |
| [09:33:00] | fryfrog: | 0.19 |
| [09:33:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: heh |
| [09:34:00] | fryfrog: | are they in portage or? |
| [09:34:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: yes |
| [09:34:00] | Cardoe: | masked |
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| [09:34:00] | ShockValue: | Cardoe: more detail: http://pastebin.com/550849 |
| [09:34:00] | Cardoe: | mythtv, mythtv-themes, mythvideo, mythdvd, mythweb(broken apparently) |
| [09:34:00] | Cardoe: | are in Portage |
| [09:34:00] | fryfrog: | masked as in, ~ or as in unmask with package.unmask |
| [09:35:00] | ShockValue: | unmask |
| [09:35:00] | fryfrog: | updating portage now :) |
| [09:37:00] | ShockValue: | Cardoe: i only see mythdvd-0.19_pre8642, not 0.19 proper |
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| [09:37:00] | Cardoe: | I recently commited it. |
| [09:37:00] | ShockValue: | kk |
| [09:40:00] | Cardoe: | ok mythweb fixed in new commit |
| [09:41:00] | fryfrog: | i'm quite happy that SMART works with kernel 2.6.15 :) |
| [09:41:00] | fryfrog: | i found a drive reporting errors though :( |
| [09:41:00] | beavis: | does lirc work with 2.6.15 for you? |
| [09:41:00] | fryfrog: | yup |
| [09:41:00] | fryfrog: | at least, ivtv + lirc |
| [09:42:00] | fryfrog: | the bastard forces bttv to load |
| [09:42:00] | fryfrog: | i fixed it in source last time, but i lazied up this time |
| [09:43:00] | fryfrog: | did you guys see that gmail is going to offer a domain mail system? |
| [09:43:00] | fryfrog: | er, hosted mail solution? |
| [09:43:00] | fryfrog: | what ever you'd call it |
| [09:43:00] | fryfrog: | your domain, gmail interface |
| [09:44:00] | Cardoe: | hrm mythweb is weird for me |
| [09:44:00] | Cardoe: | half the screen is blue |
| [09:44:00] | Cardoe: | 1/2 is white |
| [09:44:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [09:44:00] | beavis: | yeah for me too |
| [09:45:00] | beavis: | pressing reload helps |
| [09:46:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [09:46:00] | Cardoe: | so manifest re-commit is failing |
| [09:46:00] | Cardoe: | so... mythweb is fine now |
| [09:46:00] | Cardoe: | but it'll probably give you some kind of weirdo Portage error |
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| [09:53:00] | fryfrog: | You doing all these ebuilds Cardoe? |
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| [09:55:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [09:55:00] | Cardoe: | why? |
| [09:56:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: |
| [09:56:00] | Cardoe: | next weekend I'll even update the SVN snapshots too |
| [09:56:00] | Cardoe: | for you crazy folk |
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| [10:01:00] | ShockValue: | Cardoe: when i emerged mythtv, it updated /etc/init.d/mythbackend and conf.d/mythbackend... (i did the blind etc-update since i've never modified those files.) but now it doesnt start mythbackend at boot |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | check /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | I had the same issue |
| [10:01:00] | ShockValue: | it /thinks/ it does, but the frontend wont connect to it... i started mythbackend manually from the command line, and then my frontend works fine |
| [10:01:00] | ShockValue: | ok |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | it was giving me an issue with libGL |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | I had to re-run eselect opengl set 1 |
| [10:01:00] | ** Cardoe shrugs. ** | |
| [10:03:00] | Cardoe: | none of you guys are AMD64 people are you? |
| [10:03:00] | ShockValue: | not me |
| [10:03:00] | ShockValue: | was that mythweb pastebin of any use? |
| [10:03:00] | ShockValue: | oh, yeah i see it was... cool :) |
| [10:03:00] | Cardoe: | I already knew the issue |
| [10:03:00] | Cardoe: | but I peeked anyway |
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| [10:06:00] | ShockValue: | imnot getting any libGL i dont think.... i get : /tv/nfslockfile.lock: Permission denied |
| [10:07:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [10:07:00] | Cardoe: | ShockValue: it runs as the user mythtv now |
| [10:07:00] | dtm: | ShockValue: change the perms on /tv |
| [10:07:00] | Cardoe: | chown -R mythtv /tv |
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| [10:08:00] | ShockValue: | do i need a chmod too? |
| [10:08:00] | Cardoe: | no |
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| [10:09:00] | ShockValue: | kk, trying again |
| [10:09:00] | ShockValue: | thanks for all the help btw |
| [10:10:00] | Cardoe: | what I'm here for |
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| [10:14:00] | MissActek: | Any experts who can help me set up TV out with my GeForce 2 GTS? I've read many guides and I still get a blank screen. |
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| [10:17:00] | Puh: | hmm.. i'm not getting any eit data after upgrading to 0.19 |
| [10:18:00] | Puh: | whoops, false alarm |
| [10:18:00] | Puh: | it just took some time |
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| [10:20:00] | ShockValue: | that fixed it, thanks |
| [10:21:00] | ShockValue: | i was looking for the "use xvmc" button in playback options, but it seems to have dissapeared with 019. how do i use xvmc now? |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | This guy told me I was doing it wrong in the ebuild |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | I believed him |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | because... my system is dead. |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | my x86 box died |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | all I've got for MythTV is ppc |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | and ppc doesn't have any TV out support |
| [10:22:00] | Cardoe: | so.. I see squat. |
| [10:23:00] | Cardoe: | I tweaked it to how he said |
| [10:23:00] | Cardoe: | ShockValue: you have Nvidia? |
| [10:23:00] | ShockValue: | yes |
| [10:23:00] | Cardoe: | emerge mythtv |
| [10:23:00] | Cardoe: | see what it says in that summary box |
| [10:23:00] | Cardoe: | of like what's enabled and stuff |
| [10:24:00] | ShockValue: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.19 USE="alsa dvd lirc mmx nvidia oggvorbis opengl -arts -dbox2 -debug -dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack -joystick -lcd -oss -unichrome" 0 kB |
| [10:26:00] | ShockValue: | as of 18–1 xvmc was buggy on my system, but i could certainly tell the checkbox was doing something |
| [10:26:00] | Cardoe: | not emerge output |
| [10:26:00] | Cardoe: | start emerging it |
| [10:26:00] | Cardoe: | after the ./configure script runs |
| [10:26:00] | Cardoe: | it gives a little bit of an output |
| [10:26:00] | Cardoe: | know what I'm talking about? |
| [10:26:00] | Cardoe: | basically you'll ctrl-c the emerge |
| [10:26:00] | ShockValue: | think so.. sec |
| [10:27:00] | ShockValue: | i assume you're not talking about this: * You enabled the 'nvidia' USE flag, you must have a GeForce 4 or |
| [10:28:00] | ShockValue: | * Running ./configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --disable-audio-oss --disable-audio-arts --disable-audio-jack --disable-altivec --enable-xvmc |
| [10:28:00] | ShockValue: | looks like xvmc is in the config part |
| [10:29:00] | Cardoe: | later on |
| [10:29:00] | gbee: | ShockValue – it's on the first screen of the plaback options, a mutli-option dropdown or something |
| [10:29:00] | MissActek: | Can someone please either tell me how to set up my GeForce 2 GTS with TV as the only X display, or tell me where to ask? |
| [10:29:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: using the nvidia drivers? |
| [10:30:00] | ShockValue: | gbee – it makes reference to it, but i dont think that's the part that says "use it, or dont" |
| [10:30:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: Yes. |
| [10:30:00] | gbee: | ShockValue -> Preferred MPEG2 Decoder |
| [10:30:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: Older ones. |
| [10:30:00] | ** ShockValue goes to run and check ** | |
| [10:31:00] | gbee: | I should know, Daniel made that change in response to a bug report I submitted ;) |
| [10:31:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: when you boot the box up... does it display stuff to the TV? |
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| [10:31:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: Yes. |
| [10:31:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: I only get a blank screen when I startx. |
| [10:32:00] | Cardoe: | the checkered pattern? |
| [10:32:00] | Cardoe: | or black? |
| [10:32:00] | MissActek: | At that point it doesn't take the CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE command to close, either. |
| [10:32:00] | MissActek: | Black. |
| [10:32:00] | Cardoe: | ShockValue: go look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the TV setting |
| [10:32:00] | Cardoe: | I can't remember it off the top of my head. |
| [10:33:00] | MissActek: | You mean me, right? |
| [10:33:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: no. telling ShockValue to open up his file and peek to help you out. |
| [10:34:00] | Cardoe: | since he's using nvidia |
| [10:34:00] | MissActek: | Ahh. |
| [10:37:00] | MissActek: | Are there any OSS drivers for old nVidia cards like this? Maybe I'd be better with them? |
| [10:37:00] | Cardoe: | stick with what you've got |
| [10:41:00] | ShockValue: | gbee – you were right, i missed that option in there |
| [10:41:00] | ShockValue: | Cardoe – xvmc working OK :) |
| [10:41:00] | ShockValue: | goodnight all |
| [10:42:00] | Cardoe: | ShockValue: cool |
| [10:42:00] | MissActek: | :/ |
| [10:42:00] | Cardoe: | ShockValue: good night |
| [10:42:00] | MissActek: | Night. |
| [10:42:00] | ShockValue: | will try mythweb and mythdvd tomorrow |
| [10:42:00] | ShockValue: | 019 mythtv and mythvideo working great though |
| [10:43:00] | Cardoe: | cool |
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| [10:44:00] | Cardoe: | well all the plugins are now commited |
| [10:44:00] | Cardoe: | time to emerge most of them |
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| [10:45:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: Any place else you can think for me to ask? |
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| [10:46:00] | gbee: | MissActek -> not sure it I might be able to help? I've TV out working on a GF4 (SVideo PAL) |
| [10:46:00] | Cardoe: | gbee: what's the "turn the TV on" setting in xorg.conf |
| [10:46:00] | Cardoe: | it's quick |
| [10:46:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: hit google with the question |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | you'd get the answer quickly |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | read the README file that comes with the nvidia driver |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | you'll get it |
| [10:47:00] | MissActek: | Tried that already, Cardoe. |
| [10:47:00] | MissActek: | Tried that too. |
| [10:47:00] | gbee: | Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | then you're over complicating things |
| [10:47:00] | MissActek: | Got that. |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | gbee: thank you |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: that's all you need. |
| [10:48:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: I should remove "TVStandard" "PAL-I" and "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" then? |
| [10:48:00] | tetra: | i had to emerge qt |
| [10:49:00] | gbee: | Here's my full Monitor section config -> http://pastebin.ca/41238 |
| [10:49:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: it should detect all that |
| [10:51:00] | MissActek: | Odd, now I'm getting some MTRR error... |
| [10:51:00] | MissActek: | gbee: You put those options int he monitor section? |
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| [10:54:00] | gbee: | aye, maybe can be put elsewhere, I've forgotten |
| [10:56:00] | MissActek: | How do I kill X, once it's started, by the way? CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE won't work, pkill -9 won't work... |
| [10:56:00] | gbee: | MissActek: Just checking, you have the driver option set to "nvidia" yes? |
| [10:56:00] | MissActek: | I do. |
| [10:56:00] | MissActek: | And now for some reason it's giving me an error: |
| [10:56:00] | MissActek: | NVIDIA: failed to set MTRR 0xd8000000, 128M (write-combining) |
| [10:57:00] | MissActek: | Yet X is still running... |
| [10:58:00] | FinnTux: | any idea why mythweb wants to re-create thumbnails for recorded programs every time I open recorded page? |
| [10:58:00] | tfm: | I wonder what the cost of a new version is, --> cpu cycles --> power sed ;) |
| [10:58:00] | gbee: | do you know for certain this cards TV out works under the NVIDIA linux drivers? |
| [10:59:00] | gbee: | FinnTux: Which version? |
| [10:59:00] | FinnTux: | 0.19 |
| [10:59:00] | FinnTux: | cache files are there but they are re-created |
| [11:00:00] | MissActek: | gbee: No. How would I find out? |
| [11:00:00] | gbee: | FinnTux: Don't know then, doesn't do that here although my version is actually a couple of weeks older than 0.19 |
| [11:00:00] | MissActek: | gbee: I know it's not supported by the latest nVidia drivers anymore. |
| [11:00:00] | FinnTux: | happened in previous (svn) versions too |
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| [11:01:00] | gbee: | MissActek: That is a very good question, I don't know the answer but you could try the NVidia forums |
| [11:02:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: do you have MTRR turned on in your kernel? |
| [11:02:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: I do. |
| [11:04:00] | gbee: | FinnTux: Odd, try asking on the Dev mailing list, this isn't expected behaviour |
| [11:06:00] | FinnTux: | ok, I might |
| [11:06:00] | FinnTux: | gonna upgrade my other machine first |
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| [11:26:00] | Puh: | livetv playback is jerky |
| [11:27:00] | Puh: | but playback of previously recorded shows seems fine |
| [11:27:00] | Puh: | odd |
| [11:39:00] | Cardoe: | Puh: system isn't fast enough |
| [11:39:00] | Cardoe: | or hd isn;t |
| [11:40:00] | Puh: | the system is xbox playing over ethernet |
| [11:40:00] | Puh: | and it has worked fine before |
| [11:40:00] | Puh: | as in 0.18.x |
| [11:41:00] | Kelerion: | different recording profile for livetv and default? |
| [11:42:00] | Puh: | huh? |
| [11:43:00] | Puh: | i didn't touch any of those settings after upgrading |
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| [11:43:00] | gardengnome: | wb Juski |
| [11:44:00] | Cardoe: | Puh: what'd you do to your xbox to make it work? |
| [11:44:00] | Puh: | make what work? |
| [11:44:00] | Cardoe: | mythtv |
| [11:44:00] | Cardoe: | mod chip? |
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| [11:44:00] | Puh: | yes |
| [11:44:00] | Cardoe: | been meaning to do that to mine |
| [11:45:00] | Puh: | and xebian linux and a lot of tuning |
| [11:45:00] | Puh: | it's pretty close to the limits with xbox, some extra cpu power would be nice |
| [11:45:00] | Juski: | morning gardengnome |
| [11:46:00] | Juski: | Puh: it's RAM the xbox needs more of to run linux, not necessarily CPU |
| [11:47:00] | Puh: | well judging by vmstat and top output cpu is also needed |
| [11:47:00] | Puh: | it plays but for example picture-in-picture things and such don't work |
| [11:47:00] | Juski: | keep an eye on the open XDK ;) |
| [11:48:00] | Puh: | the really nice part is a decent tv-out and sound output |
| [11:48:00] | Juski: | they could do some cool stuff in the open XDK |
| [11:48:00] | Juski: | constitutional over.. time for breakfast |
| [11:50:00] | fryfrog: | where does mythbackend expect to find a mysql.txt file Cardoe? |
| [11:51:00] | Cardoe: | in /etc/mythtv/ |
| [11:52:00] | Cardoe: | but there could be a couple of places |
| [11:52:00] | Cardoe: | Puh: which mod chip did you get? |
| [11:54:00] | Cardoe: | arrrg!! |
| [11:54:00] | Cardoe: | CSS is driving me nuts |
| [11:54:00] | Cardoe: | http://www.cardoe.com/index2.php |
| [11:54:00] | fryfrog: | if i run mythbackend -d, it gets it from the right file (found in many places) |
| [11:54:00] | Cardoe: | those drop down menus don't wanna behave. |
| [11:54:00] | fryfrog: | if i start it with gentoo scripts, it does not find it |
| [11:55:00] | fryfrog: | but the damn thing does tell me *where* its looking |
| [11:55:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: it should pull it from /etc/mythtv |
| [11:55:00] | Cardoe: | delete all the files. |
| [11:55:00] | Cardoe: | it should use /etc/mythtv by default |
| [11:55:00] | Cardoe: | that's what it's hardcoded to use |
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| [11:55:00] | fryfrog: | ok |
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| [11:57:00] | fryfrog: | Using runtime prefix = /usr |
| [11:57:00] | fryfrog: | it used to be /var/run i think |
| [11:58:00] | fryfrog: | i usued to have to copy the mysql.txt file to /var/run/mythtv/.mythtv/ because *that* is where it was looking... |
| [11:58:00] | fryfrog: | and it actually *said* that is where it was looking |
| [11:59:00] | fryfrog: | stupid ass... |
| [11:59:00] | fryfrog: | it stores that shit in... /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/ |
| [11:59:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [11:59:00] | fryfrog: | /etc/mythtv/ is almost correct |
| [12:00:00] | fryfrog: | there is a .mythtv dir inside that it wanted |
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| [12:00:00] | Cardoe: | sorry |
| [12:00:00] | fryfrog: | my fault, i should have known |
| [12:00:00] | fryfrog: | all the *other* dirs were inside a .mythtv |
| [12:00:00] | fryfrog: | i just assumed they had fixed / changed it to be less dumb for inside of /etc/ |
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| [12:02:00] | fryfrog: | any more 0.19 ebuilds? |
| [12:03:00] | Puh: | Cardoe, the chip is called DuoX 2 |
| [12:03:00] | fryfrog: | I tried installing GentooX, gave up |
| [12:04:00] | fryfrog: | then tried to figure out how to install real gentoo on xbox |
| [12:04:00] | fryfrog: | but never could |
| [12:05:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: what do you mean anymore 0.19 ebuilds? |
| [12:05:00] | fryfrog: | is xebian spiffy? |
| [12:05:00] | Cardoe: | Puh: works good? disable switch for Xbox Live? |
| [12:05:00] | fryfrog: | last time you talked about em, you said there was only for like 3 modules? |
| [12:05:00] | fryfrog: | dvd, web and something else? |
| [12:05:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [12:05:00] | Puh: | Cardoe, works fine, i've never used xbox live |
| [12:05:00] | Cardoe: | I said they're all done |
| [12:05:00] | fryfrog: | er, addons... plugins... |
| [12:05:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [12:05:00] | fryfrog: | i missed it |
| [12:06:00] | Cardoe: | I'm canceling Xbox Live tomorrow |
| [12:06:00] | Cardoe: | I wanna get a chip |
| [12:06:00] | Puh: | Cardoe, i've been mostly watching mythtv on my xbox :) |
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| [12:06:00] | Cardoe: | did you have to get anything else? |
| [12:06:00] | Cardoe: | like a bigger HD? |
| [12:06:00] | Puh: | nope |
| [12:07:00] | Cardoe: | the pain in the neck part is getting a BIOS probably |
| [12:07:00] | Puh: | i compiled qt and myth and such on remote filesystem over nfs and used distcc |
| [12:07:00] | Puh: | i can't even remember the first steps with the modded box |
| [12:07:00] | Puh: | but it was actually quite easy |
| [12:09:00] | dtm: | Puh: so you have a somewhat generic linux distro on your xbox? |
| [12:09:00] | fryfrog: | bios is easy :) |
| [12:09:00] | fryfrog: | no, he said xebian |
| [12:09:00] | fryfrog: | which would be xbox specific debian, not generic i'd say ;) |
| [12:10:00] | Cardoe: | can you still use the Xbox to play DVDs? |
| [12:10:00] | Puh: | well the main difference to debian is the custom kernel |
| [12:10:00] | Puh: | sure |
| [12:10:00] | dtm: | anything based on another distro is by definition generic |
| [12:10:00] | Puh: | i can play games and whatever |
| [12:10:00] | Cardoe: | reboot? |
| [12:10:00] | Cardoe: | can you switch to DVD with just the remote? |
| [12:10:00] | dtm: | Puh: do you have a tv input? |
| [12:11:00] | fryfrog: | i imagine its just his FE |
| [12:11:00] | Puh: | i can select shutdown from mythtv menu and it reboots to a custom dashboard |
| [12:11:00] | Puh: | there i can choose to run mythtv or xbmc or watch dvd or play games or .. |
| [12:11:00] | fryfrog: | what dash do you use? |
| [12:11:00] | fryfrog: | i really like xbmc |
| [12:11:00] | Puh: | evolution-x |
| [12:11:00] | dtm: | Puh: does it use the xbox controller as the mythtv gui pointer? |
| [12:11:00] | Puh: | i use the xbox remote |
| [12:11:00] | Puh: | but the xbox controller works also |
| [12:12:00] | Puh: | i just like it wireless |
| [12:12:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [12:12:00] | Cardoe: | Choice is for Generation 3b or 4 mod chips |
| [12:12:00] | fryfrog: | damn, now i'll have to start messing with it ;/ |
| [12:12:00] | fryfrog: | i'd always go with the "latest" |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | unless the older ones are a lot cheaper? |
| [12:13:00] | dtm: | Puh: my buddy has xbmc from about 1.5 yrs ago. do you happen to know offhand if there are any problems in upgrading to current? does he hafta back up any conf files? |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | I <3 my X3, but i'd get another laterer one |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | dtm: There were some minor changes, i think they recommended nuking your config and starting over |
| [12:13:00] | fryfrog: | dtm: its also easier to *make* xbmc your dash now |
| [12:13:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: so.. |
| [12:13:00] | dtm: | fryfrog: oic |
| [12:13:00] | Puh: | dtm, my xbmc is just as old so i wouldn't know |
| [12:13:00] | Cardoe: | http://www.xboxscene.com/modchips4_table.htm |
| [12:14:00] | Juski: | dtm: the biggest difference is in the skin – ProjectMayhem3 |
| [12:14:00] | ** Cardoe has no idea which one he wants ** | |
| [12:14:00] | dtm: | fryfrog: would that be a bunch of work? i never set one up. |
| [12:14:00] | dtm: | fryfrog: i guess upgrading to any new system would be a buncha work if you want to configure the new stuff anyway. |
| [12:14:00] | fryfrog: | It is just FTP'ing a ton of files |
| [12:14:00] | Juski: | Cardoe: they're basically all the same, allowing you to run unsigned code... when you get the chip it only comes with a basic BIOS that lets you reflash it |
| [12:14:00] | fryfrog: | you then simply copy a "xbmc.xbe" file to your c:\ |
| [12:14:00] | dtm: | fryfrog: it's all automatic, isn't it? |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | and tell your mod chip to boot it |
| [12:15:00] | Puh: | installing xbmc is basically unzipping a file to a specific folder on the xbox filesystem |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | well, its not really an "upgrade" |
| [12:15:00] | dtm: | that's what i thought. |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, what puh said |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | its not like going from win95 -> win98 |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | more like unzipping a new version of putty :0 |
| [12:15:00] | dtm: | cool. |
| [12:15:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: My GF got me the X3 for xmas (and the xbox) and it works fine |
| [12:15:00] | Juski: | you can even still access the original dashboard if you like – unless you've unlocked or changed the HDD |
| [12:16:00] | dtm: | he doesn't have to back anything up then huh |
| [12:16:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: But I suspect *any* of those modchips would be awsome |
| [12:16:00] | fryfrog: | dtm: not unless he has something *super* special configured |
| [12:16:00] | dtm: | i reckon he'll start over anyway |
| [12:16:00] | Puh: | dtm, i would probably rename the old folder first just in case :) |
| [12:16:00] | Cardoe: | so the X-lite @ $35 is probably fine. |
| [12:16:00] | Puh: | dtm, then test the new version before throwing the old one away |
| [12:16:00] | fryfrog: | I update xbmc every month or so, when I ftp it skips a TON of files |
| [12:17:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: prolly, I think one of the big differences is the amount of storage space for bioses |
| [12:17:00] | fryfrog: | I *only* use the X3 one, even though I think it could hold like 4 more |
| [12:17:00] | Puh: | also the file upload is a LOT easier with xebian as one can use any ftp or sftp server or such |
| [12:17:00] | Puh: | the evox ftp server is somehow crippled and refuses to work with some ftp programs |
| [12:17:00] | fryfrog: | that sucks |
| [12:17:00] | Puh: | yep |
| [12:17:00] | fryfrog: | most of the bios also have a ftp server built in |
| [12:18:00] | fryfrog: | I've used FlashFXP with X3, evox, xbmc and ummm |
| [12:18:00] | fryfrog: | avalaunch |
| [12:20:00] | Puh: | i'll try to compile the frontend without --enable-proc-opts next, maybe that helps for the jerkiness |
| [12:20:00] | Juski: | the most basic of ftp works for me.. good ole commandline ;) |
| [12:21:00] | Cardoe: | Puh: try adding -Os for compiles |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | does xbox linux user nvidia drivers? |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | maybe xvmc would work |
| [12:21:00] | Puh: | as far as i know, it doesn't |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | bah |
| [12:22:00] | Juski: | well, xbmc uses mplayer & I've yet to see a file stumble on playback |
| [12:22:00] | Puh: | so far i've only touched mythtv and changing any x drivers or such could only worsen this |
| [12:22:00] | Puh: | i'll try to fix mythfrontend first, then break the world if necessary :) |
| [12:23:00] | Cardoe: | did you guys get a solderless chip? |
| [12:23:00] | Puh: | nope, a friend of mine has steady hands |
| [12:23:00] | fryfrog: | I also went solder, a friend is real good at it |
| [12:24:00] | fryfrog: | looking back i'm glad i had him do it, i have *very* shakey hands |
| [12:24:00] | fryfrog: | he made it look easy though :) |
| [12:24:00] | Cardoe: | well then |
| [12:24:00] | ** Cardoe orders the $35 X-lite chip. ** | |
| [12:24:00] | fryfrog: | took us about 1 hour, that included desoldering the "easy" 1.6 bridge and using little wires |
| [12:24:00] | Cardoe: | I have a 1.0 Xbox |
| [12:24:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [12:24:00] | fryfrog: | who makes the X-lite? |
| [12:24:00] | fryfrog: | is it Xecuter? |
| [12:25:00] | Cardoe: | Team X-Chip? |
| [12:25:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [12:25:00] | fryfrog: | the X in the name confused me :) |
| [12:25:00] | Cardoe: | not Xecuter |
| [12:26:00] | Cardoe: | maybe I'll have MythTV working in the living room |
| [12:26:00] | Cardoe: | won't have to deal with the PPC box |
| [12:26:00] | Cardoe: | it can only be a back end |
| [12:26:00] | MissActek: | Cardoe: I found out my problem. |
| [12:26:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: ? |
| [12:26:00] | MissActek: | The one that was making me have a black unresponsive screen in X. |
| [12:26:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [12:26:00] | Cardoe: | what was it |
| [12:26:00] | MissActek: | The stable nvidia-kernel package for x86 (1.0.6629-r5) appears to be incompatable with the stable kernel for x86 (2.6.15-gentoo-r1). I don't know how to properly report that. |
| [12:26:00] | Cardoe: | MissActek: http://bugs.gentoo.org |
| [12:27:00] | MissActek: | Sorry, copied that from #gentoo, where I'm asking how to report it. |
| [12:27:00] | MissActek: | Yeah, but how do I use that? |
| [12:27:00] | Cardoe: | they "stable" kernels too quickly. |
| [12:27:00] | Cardoe: | there's probably a bug report about it already. |
| [12:27:00] | fryfrog: | the one "neat" thing i like about x3 is that it has lan/hdd activity lights |
| [12:27:00] | fryfrog: | useless... but cute! |
| [12:27:00] | Cardoe: | haha |
| [12:28:00] | MissActek: | x3 is what exactly? |
| [12:28:00] | fryfrog: | modchip for xbox |
| [12:28:00] | MissActek: | Awesome. :) |
| [12:28:00] | fryfrog: | and some of them can have LCDs |
| [12:29:00] | fryfrog: | which could potentially be neat for myth |
| [12:29:00] | MissActek: | I wanna get this one for PS2 that lets you put on OS on it and boot from HD. |
| [12:29:00] | Cardoe: | anyway I'm out |
| [12:29:00] | Cardoe: | Gotta go to work |
| [12:29:00] | fryfrog: | don't you have to buy the hd for ps2? and it comes with linux? |
| [12:29:00] | fryfrog: | or am i totally wrong? |
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| [12:31:00] | UBL: | just buy the network adaptor and a hdd and dl the blackrhino iso |
| [12:31:00] | MissActek: | You have to buy a HDD, but you can use a range of drives of your choice. Gotta have a network adapter though. |
| [12:31:00] | MissActek: | I'd probably just buy a premodded one. |
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| [12:36:00] | coffee88: | Can someone confirm for me that the RT xmltv site is still down, or I'm wondering if I've somehow borked my setup.... |
| [12:37:00] | Juski: | it'd not down, coffee88 |
| [12:37:00] | coffee88: | Juski: Pants! Then it must be my end somehow.... There hasn't been an upgrade to xmltv lately I've missed? |
| [12:37:00] | Juski: | ph shit |
| [12:37:00] | Juski: | yes it is! wah! |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | or rather – mine's broken |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | but I upgraded PERL yesterday – not that I had much choice |
| [12:38:00] | coffee88: | Whew! And I thought it was just a conspiracy against me..... My system hasnt' changed, so must be the site has? |
| [12:38:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [12:39:00] | coffee88: | I just get a whole list of "not found on site" messages..... |
| [12:39:00] | Juski: | http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/channels.dat is empty 8-O |
| [12:40:00] | Juski: | I think I'm missing the perl SQL libs |
| [12:40:00] | coffee88: | And I'm guessing that's not good? I have found the actaul web page to be down for a lot of the last two days too... |
| [12:41:00] | Juski: | it was ok yesterday and still is okay today |
| [12:41:00] | coffee88: | hmmmm. |
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| [12:44:00] | Juski: | oh shit! big problems here.. xmltv isn't working, presumably because it needs the perl sql stuff, and I can't emerge what I need |
| [12:44:00] | coffee88: | But I haven't upgraded anything, and it's still not working for me? |
| [12:45:00] | Juski: | if the channels.dat is empty, one can only assume it's down |
| [12:46:00] | ** gbee reads old conversations ** | |
| [12:46:00] | coffee88: | So I won't panic for now then. Good. |
| [12:47:00] | gbee: | re playing DVDs on Xbox w/mythtv installed, does mythdvd not work on Xbox? |
| [12:47:00] | Puh: | i don't really know |
| [12:47:00] | Puh: | i've never tried it |
| [12:48:00] | Puh: | xbox plays dvds just fine even without myth so .. |
| [12:48:00] | gbee: | with the new internal DVD player might be easier than rebooting or whatever you have to do now |
| [12:48:00] | gbee: | aye used to use my xbox for DVDs |
| [12:49:00] | gbee: | menu support will be available from 0.20 onwards too (or earlier if you use SVN) |
| [12:51:00] | Juski: | coffee88: maybe they're just updating it ;) |
| [12:51:00] | coffee88: | Been like that for me for 2 days now.... Maybe they dind't finish Friday before the first round at the pub was calling.... |
| [12:52:00] | Juski: | wonder what's up with my box.. I _knew_ I'd have issues. all I did was upgrade mjpegtools & it even pulled in a new X & gcc ffs |
| [12:53:00] | coffee88: | Juski: You run gentoo? Did you emerge -u or just emerge? |
| [12:53:00] | Juski: | emerge -u (d'oh) |
| [12:54:00] | Juski: | I didn't say world or system though |
| [12:54:00] | Puh: | opening the mythweb recorded programs page is veeerryyy slow — it seems that the image cache for the recorded files doesn't work |
| [12:54:00] | Puh: | it creates new images every time |
| [12:54:00] | coffee88: | Yeah, that's caught me before.... Anything with u wants to upgrade evrything just for the sake of it. It doesn't work like I thought it did just on the package.... |
| [12:55:00] | Juski: | well if this has borked too much I'll dump gentoo & go with ubuntu |
| [12:55:00] | Juski: | it's too much like hard work keeping up to date |
| [12:56:00] | coffee88: | I think they really shoudl have used something different to the u option.... I've given up trying to keep too up to date... If it ain't broke... |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | it wasn't broke.. til I upgraded |
| [12:56:00] | coffee88: | heh |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | thing is I went for the best part of a year without updating anything |
| [12:58:00] | coffee88: | it does seem weird it borked it though. I've not really had too many isses... Did you do the etc-updates? Manually? |
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| [12:58:00] | Juski: | but I have no recordings scheduled until 4.30 today |
| [12:58:00] | Juski: | coffee88: I used etc-update & guessed most of it would be okay |
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| [12:59:00] | Juski: | course I looked at each one as I went.. didn't just do -3 |
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| [12:59:00] | Juski: | was mostly changes X brought about... security things & stuff |
| [13:00:00] | Juski: | now emerge --sync is hung at 51% |
| [13:00:00] | Juski: | cpu is pegged |
| [13:00:00] | coffee88: | I assumed averything would be fine once. It wasn't. Bloody pam! |
| [13:00:00] | Juski: | pam.. that was it |
| [13:00:00] | ** Juski prepares an ubuntu cd ** | |
| [13:00:00] | coffee88: | Juski: It does that lately 50–52% is the new KDE builds. It just sits there for a while.... |
| [13:01:00] | coffee88: | But then carries on... |
| [13:01:00] | Juski: | oo 52% now.. never used to be this slow |
| [13:01:00] | coffee88: | The new version of portage is meant to fis this sometime.... It's all the split KDE ebuilds.... |
| [13:02:00] | coffee88: | fis? Mean fix.... |
| [13:02:00] | Juski: | this is a version of portage I installed yesterday |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | 53%... |
| [13:03:00] | mikey: | hi everybody |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | hi mikey |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | ahh now it's back up to speed |
| [13:04:00] | mikey: | hi Juski |
| [13:04:00] | coffee88: | I can't remember if it's still an upstream testing version that fixes it... http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-384292-h . . . tage+51.html |
| [13:04:00] | mikey: | Juski |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | coffee88: I'm not interested. gentoo has pissed me off one last time... I'm gonna timetable a change to ubuntu soon |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | I'm not suited to using gentoo. I'm not saying gentoo is crap, but it's not for me |
| [13:05:00] | ** coffee88 shrugs, and doesn't care what distro anyone uses.... ** | |
| [13:05:00] | mikey: | anybody had played ""TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTULES"? |
| [13:06:00] | Juski: | as in, dressed up as donatello & waxed some rats? |
| [13:06:00] | Kelerion: | Juski: you tried the themes that lxmsuite released yet? |
| [13:06:00] | coffee88: | Juski: I only like it because it make me feel like I know what's going onto the system. It's taught me how linux actually works. |
| [13:06:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: yeh.. liked some of the things in syth |
| [13:07:00] | Kelerion: | I didn't like syth at all.. but Midnight is spiffy |
| [13:08:00] | mikey: | OH |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | midnight has an inaccessible setup menu if you don't have PGUP & PGDOWN keys mapped to your remote :-/ |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | http://pastebin.com/551072 |
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| [13:09:00] | Kelerion: | well thats true.. but I have those keys mapped |
| [13:09:00] | coffee88: | Juski: Doh! |
| [13:10:00] | coffee88: | Juski: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-279109-h . . . dkey+pm.html |
| [13:11:00] | laga: | uh, is it normal that the mythweather config doesn't highlight item when i choose them? |
| [13:11:00] | Juski: | coffee88: got it already ;) |
| [13:12:00] | Juski: | or rather, googled myself & started getting it |
| [13:12:00] | Juski: | need xml stuff now |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | so much for gentoo getting all the dependencies |
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| [13:16:00] | Juski: | got XML-Parser now.. getting XML-Twig |
| [13:17:00] | Juski: | yay.. mythfilldatabase doesn't bomb out now |
| [13:17:00] | Juski: | and yes, the radiotimes xml feeds are still gone |
| [13:18:00] | dtm: | fryfrog: i just encoded lavc mpeg4 files with mencoder using vhq and v4mv and my buddy's 1.5 yr old xbmc (which uses mplayer) can't play the video! isn't that insane? |
| [13:18:00] | ** coffee88 tries hard to remember how many days listings he has left in the db... ** | |
| [13:18:00] | ** Juski has 12 days left ** | |
| [13:18:00] | ** coffee88 thinks he's down to about 6.... ** | |
| [13:19:00] | Juski: | coffee88: there's always the dvb grabber |
| [13:19:00] | Juski: | if you've got a dvb card ;) |
| [13:19:00] | Juski: | btw laga: coume's back ;) |
| [13:19:00] | coffee88: | Juski: yeah, nova-t.... |
| [13:20:00] | laga: | Juski: yep, saw his posting |
| [13:20:00] | ** coffee88 goes to search on dvb grabber... ** | |
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| [13:20:00] | Juski: | coffee88: it's called tv_grab_dvb |
| [13:21:00] | ** Juski wonders what else got borked yesterday, to do some pre-emptive fixing ** | |
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| [13:21:00] | whyz: | hey.. anyone got the solution to this: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-May/086720.html |
| [13:22:00] | Juski: | -bash: /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt: No such file or directory ... wtf? |
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| [13:23:00] | Juski: | whoah... |
| [13:23:00] | Juski: | it didn't install tv_grab_uk_rt ! |
| [13:25:00] | coffee88: | huh?! But all the others? |
| [13:25:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [13:25:00] | Juski: | xmltv-0.5.39 is masked.. emerging now |
| [13:26:00] | laga: | 0.5.39 masked? geeez, that's almost older than me |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | same thing again... saw some message 'not be installed' whizz by |
| [13:26:00] | coffee88: | Cruising the site... 0.5.42 is the latest? |
| [13:27:00] | Juski: | there's no merit putting messages in there if my scrollback buffer is only 2000 lines long |
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| [13:28:00] | Juski: | this went whizzing by: http://pastebin.com/551097 |
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| [13:29:00] | Juski: | how the hell do you configure it to put the uk grabber in then? |
| [13:29:00] | Juski: | time to look at the ebuild |
| [13:30:00] | laga: | Juski: USE flags? |
| [13:30:00] | Juski: | NOTE: you can customize the xmltv installation by defining a XMLTV_OPTS variable |
| [13:30:00] | Juski: | that's in the ebuild notes... in the ebuild file... pffffft |
| [13:31:00] | Juski: | is that what they call documentation? ;) |
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| [13:31:00] | coffee88: | I'm glad you're going through this so I don't have to.,,, I'm assuming that goes in /etc/make.conf? |
| [13:31:00] | Juski: | dunno |
| [13:32:00] | coffee88: | that's where things like that normally go.... |
| [13:32:00] | Juski: | trying |
| [13:32:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [13:33:00] | Juski: | missing another perl module |
| [13:33:00] | Juski: | hey how much fun is this? |
| [13:33:00] | coffee88: | But if you don't have it, the ebuild says everything will be built? But it's obviously not being.... |
| [13:33:00] | Juski: | Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm |
| [13:33:00] | Kelerion: | enough fun that I'd have given up and installed ubuntu by now.. lol |
| [13:34:00] | coffee88: | Some days you need a challenge.... And some days you don't! |
| [13:34:00] | Juski: | I'll fix this within the hour (I hope).. then gentoo is going into /dev/null by this time next week |
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| [13:35:00] | Juski: | hopefully there'll be a minimyth rollout for 0.19 by then & I'll do it all in one go |
| [13:35:00] | SubZ3r0: | Hey peeps need some help here im setting up my mythtv box and the video flickers and its all mis coloured I tried to update video drivers but didnt seem to make difference |
| [13:36:00] | coffee88: | Juski: I assume you know from the ebuild what package it is? |
| [13:36:00] | Kelerion: | ok – here's a question.. when my slave backend records something.. and stores it on the master backend.. the master backends recordings get screwed up. (they start jumping and spluttering).. is that a harddrive speed/bandwith problem? |
| [13:36:00] | Juski: | coffee88: it's not in the depends list if that's what you mean |
| [13:37:00] | coffee88: | Juski: it's not dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.34, or similar? |
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| [13:38:00] | Juski: | looks like I didn't have HTML-Parser installed either |
| [13:38:00] | Juski: | w00t: tv_grab_uk_rt doesn't give me errors now |
| [13:38:00] | coffee88: | Juski: it's a conditional depends for tv_grab_rt.... |
| [13:39:00] | coffee88: | Juski: But still no data? |
| [13:39:00] | Juski: | no data still |
| [13:39:00] | coffee88: | Grrrrrr. |
| [13:39:00] | SubZ3r0: | anyone? to my question above? |
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| [13:40:00] | Juski: | SubZ3r0: without information about your video card etc there's little I can suggest |
| [13:40:00] | SubZ3r0: | Radeon 9200 vivo |
| [13:40:00] | Juski: | oh fuck |
| [13:40:00] | SubZ3r0: | processor is 750mhz duron |
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| [13:41:00] | SubZ3r0: | tv tuner im using is a ati tv wonder ve |
| [13:41:00] | Juski: | erm... if it's the output you're talking about, SubZ3r0, not the TV picture itself .. then yes it's a driver/config issue |
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| [13:41:00] | Juski: | is it all borked on the TV out but fine on your monitor? |
| [13:41:00] | SubZ3r0: | well in the tv itself it has audio and picture but its frammed up and colours are funky |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | but on the monitor output? |
| [13:42:00] | SubZ3r0: | yes |
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| [13:42:00] | Juski: | yes what? |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | yes it's borked too? |
| [13:42:00] | SubZ3r0: | its outputting on the monitor |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | does it look good on the monitor? |
| [13:43:00] | SubZ3r0: | no its miscoloured and very frammy |
| [13:43:00] | Juski: | how does the desktop look? |
| [13:43:00] | SubZ3r0: | fine looks clean |
| [13:43:00] | Juski: | good, so the issue is with the tuner card |
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| [13:44:00] | Puh: | i can't seem to make my both dvb tuners work with 0.19 |
| [13:44:00] | Puh: | starting with mythtv-setup |
| [13:44:00] | SubZ3r0: | im using video for linux driver |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | SubZ3r0: then the tuner isn't configured properly. you should've tested it outside of mythtv first |
| [13:45:00] | SubZ3r0: | I have I was running windows xp on the pc before I formatted it and it worked great |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | that's not the same |
| [13:45:00] | SubZ3r0: | u mean linux tv app |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [13:46:00] | SubZ3r0: | know of any good ones |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | tvtime, xawtv... |
| [13:46:00] | SubZ3r0: | google searchin........ |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | you'll need to do some fettling of the driver.. sometimes tuners aren't detected properly etc |
| [13:46:00] | whyz: | heya... i installed new ivtv drivers, but can't watch live tv now.. mythtv gives me this in the log: Remote encoder not responding. |
| [13:46:00] | whyz: | 2006-02–12 14:47:04.142 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [13:46:00] | whyz: | 2006-02–12 14:47:04.143 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [13:47:00] | Juski: | whyz: try an ivtv forum ;) |
| [13:47:00] | whyz: | #ivtv-dev is quiet as a grave |
| [13:47:00] | laga: | whyz: you sure that your tv car dis configured a s an 'hardware mpeg2 encoder' in m<ythtv-setup? |
| [13:47:00] | Juski: | always is |
| [13:48:00] | whyz: | laga, i haven't changed anything in the setup.. i can check again though. |
| [13:49:00] | Juski: | now we just need to find out why the radiotimes xml data is AWOL |
| [13:50:00] | Juski: | oh hell.. I don't have the updated definitions for channels now |
| [13:52:00] | Kelerion: | what can I used to check disk throughput? |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: hdparm |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | you might want to verify that network throughput doesn't impact it too |
| [13:53:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: you using onboard LAN? |
| [13:53:00] | Layer01 is now known as Layer01_Zzzz | |
| [13:53:00] | Juski: | network activity can stifle systems if you've got a very cheap NIC |
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| [13:53:00] | Kelerion: | I think so |
| [13:54:00] | Juski: | realtek controller? mine slows down everything.. good job I don't load it up much |
| [13:54:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. 8139 |
| [13:55:00] | Juski: | same here |
| [13:55:00] | Juski: | maybe try turning the speed down (honestly) |
| [13:55:00] | Kelerion: | the network speed? |
| [13:55:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [13:55:00] | Kelerion: | less bandwidth used = less load on card = less load on bus? |
| [13:56:00] | Juski: | exactement |
| [13:56:00] | Juski: | some controllers are sloppy on the bus... you can prolly fix it by tuning PCI latency timing but that's a royal pain in the arse |
| [13:57:00] | Juski: | early sata controllers were marred by that too |
| [13:57:00] | Kelerion: | the slave backend is only recording the camera.. which is relatively low quality compared to TV.. so will try dropping the quality of the captured video first and see if that helps |
| [13:57:00] | Juski: | less so since they're generally built into northbridges now |
| [13:58:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: did you look at zoneminder? that looks cool as... |
| [13:58:00] | Kelerion: | never heard of it |
| [13:59:00] | Juski: | http://www.zoneminder.com/ |
| [13:59:00] | whyz: | laga, it is still on.. i can watch live tv for about 30 seconds, but i cannot bring the menu up or anything.. |
| [13:59:00] | Juski: | activity/motion detection looks very nice.. better than anything the company I work for do ;) |
| [14:00:00] | Kelerion: | that looks very nice |
| [14:00:00] | Kelerion: | ok – gonna give it a shot |
| [14:00:00] | Kelerion: | thanks |
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| [14:02:00] | Puh: | as i said it seems one of the two dvb cards does not work — it works fine with 0.18.x though |
| [14:02:00] | Puh: | can anyone help? |
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| [14:03:00] | Juski: | Puh: try deleting both cards & set them up again |
| [14:03:00] | Puh: | i just did |
| [14:03:00] | Puh: | no go |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | really? ouch |
| [14:03:00] | Juski: | erm... do you still have both devices in the /dvb tree? |
| [14:04:00] | Puh: | card 0 just does not get anything |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | /dvb/adapterx/frontendx etc |
| [14:04:00] | whyz: | ok, here's the deal.. i can watch live tv for about 20 seconds. I can see the livebuffer nuv file growing, and then suddenly mythtv logs spit out "Remote encoder not responding." and then WriteStringList: Bad socket, followed by ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [14:04:00] | Puh: | yes i didn't even boot after update |
| [14:04:00] | whyz: | pvr350 |
| [14:04:00] | Puh: | er, upgrade |
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| [14:04:00] | Juski: | Puh: have you tried testing adapter0 with tzap & so on? |
| [14:05:00] | Puh: | no as it works fine with 0.18.x |
| [14:05:00] | gbee: | puh what card? |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | so you've got TWO versions of mythtv on your system? |
| [14:05:00] | Puh: | but after upgrading to 0.19 its just silent |
| [14:05:00] | Puh: | no, only one |
| [14:05:00] | Puh: | 0.18 worked fine, 0.19 does not |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | Puh: just to eliminate driver issues, test both cards seperately |
| [14:05:00] | Juski: | I know it 'can't' be drivers, but check anyway |
| [14:06:00] | gbee: | Puh: what card is it? |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | could save a lot of time in the long run |
| [14:06:00] | Puh: | ok i'll try them one at a time |
| [14:06:00] | Puh: | 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | Puh: it's not that... he means the card make/model |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | but being saa7146 based I'd guess it's a twinhan |
| [14:08:00] | gbee: | well my saa7146 is an old model Nova-T |
| [14:08:00] | Juski: | I only guessed ;) |
| [14:08:00] | Juski: | the card make etc are irrelevant anyway |
| [14:09:00] | gbee: | but either way .. works fine here, so as Justki said, test them seperately |
| [14:09:00] | gbee: | Juski ... not Justki ;) |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | I'm waiting for a 0.19 minimyth to come out before I upgrade... and I'm changing to ubuntu on the backend then too |
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| [14:11:00] | Puh: | it seems card 0 is not getting anything and card 1 is getting data .. tried setting them up separately and together |
| [14:11:00] | The_Login: | hello |
| [14:11:00] | Juski: | Puh: in tzap? |
| [14:11:00] | Puh: | nope in mythtv-setup |
| [14:11:00] | Puh: | i'll try tzap next |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | Puh: you very well might have to zap the DB to fix this issue |
| [14:12:00] | Puh: | i have some recordings that i wouldn't want to lose |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | you wouldn't have to lose any recordings :) |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | or anything else |
| [14:13:00] | The_Login: | does mythtv supoort dvb-s card ? |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | you could just drop the capture card table & rebuild it |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | The_Login: yes it does |
| [14:13:00] | Puh: | Juski, by using mythtv-setup or by hand with mysql? |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | The_Login: many people use dvb-s |
| [14:14:00] | The_Login: | Juski even paytv ? |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | Puh: either or.. but let's see what tzap produces first |
| [14:14:00] | Puh: | ok |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | The_Login: yeh if you have a card with a CommonInterface, a CAM and a valid viewing card |
| [14:14:00] | The_Login: | Juski that is not really what i mean |
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| [14:15:00] | Juski: | in that case, NO |
| [14:15:00] | The_Login: | Juski if i have a legal subsci^tion and i use emulation ? |
| [14:15:00] | Juski: | NO |
| [14:16:00] | The_Login: | ok thx for the info :) |
| [14:16:00] | Juski: | np :) |
| [14:16:00] | The_Login: | where can i get help for dvb -s installation |
| [14:17:00] | Juski: | erm.. google for mythtv dvb-s |
| [14:17:00] | floffe: | i have a bit of trouble, mythfrontend uses 90–95% cpu on my xp2500+ when just watching tv (from a pvr150), and the playback stutters |
| [14:17:00] | gbee: | might try the wiki, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ |
| [14:17:00] | floffe: | any tips for what to tweak? |
| [14:17:00] | Juski: | floffe: you using nvidia drivers later than 7667 ? |
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| [14:18:00] | floffe: | yeah 8178 |
| [14:18:00] | floffe: | is that the problem? |
| [14:18:00] | gbee: | floffe: downgrade ... bad drivers |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | floffe: there's a bug in them... opengl vsync eats up CPU like nothing else |
| [14:18:00] | floffe: | ah |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | if you can live without it, use nvidia-settings to turn it off |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | or downgrade to 7667 |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | 99% sure it'll drop CPU usage down to something more realistic for you :) |
| [14:19:00] | floffe: | hmm, turning it off would mean gaming would suffer, right? |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | possibly |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | downgrading isn't so bad |
| [14:19:00] | floffe: | yeah |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | that has issues of its own but |
| [14:20:00] | Juski: | you should be ok |
| [14:20:00] | Juski: | btw nvidia are 'working on it' |
| [14:20:00] | floffe: | good to know :) |
| [14:20:00] | Juski: | though they've already made 2 releases with the same bug |
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| [14:22:00] | Kelerion: | nah.. zoneminder is refusing to install |
| [14:23:00] | Juski: | bah well |
| [14:23:00] | xpis: | Btw.. slashdot doesn't care about another new version of mythtv. I guess they weren't impressed with the (short) new feature list. |
| [14:23:00] | Juski: | xpis: who cares? |
| [14:23:00] | xpis: | Juski: Well.. that means less people will know about it. |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | having seen a lot of comments on slashdot we'd all be better off without those kind of end users IMHO |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | flamers :) |
| [14:24:00] | Puh: | interesting |
| [14:25:00] | Puh: | it seems dvbscan is unable to find anything either |
| [14:25:00] | coffee88: | mythtv already runs on linux, so there can only be half the usual comments made on slashdot.... |
| [14:25:00] | Juski: | if someone farts a new way it gets slashdotted |
| [14:25:00] | Puh: | i think i should reboot and try again |
| [14:25:00] | gbee: | short? 0.19 is a huge leap over 0.18! Especially for DVB etc |
| [14:25:00] | xpis: | coffee88: no, the question would be whether or not it can *run* linux. |
| [14:26:00] | Puh: | unable to scan anything from /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0 and getting nice data from /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux1 |
| [14:26:00] | coffee88: | heh! You're right.... |
| [14:26:00] | Juski: | Puh: driver locked up :) |
| [14:26:00] | xpis: | gbee: but the features don't sound spectacular, even though there are many improvements. |
| [14:26:00] | Puh: | something like that |
| [14:26:00] | Puh: | rebooting now |
| [14:26:00] | coffee88: | Is the upgrade to .19 painless? |
| [14:26:00] | xpis: | coffee88: yes |
| [14:26:00] | Juski: | xpis: mythtv doesn't need slashdot to spread the word imho.. things as good as this become known to people |
| [14:27:00] | Puh: | oops i meant /dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0 of course |
| [14:27:00] | Juski: | Puh: of course.. heheh |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | xpis: I've seen posts on an MCE forum about mythtv.. people gave up on myth after like half an hour because they didn't know what they were doing |
| [14:28:00] | ** coffee88 wonders how long it will be hard masked in gentoo portage.... ** | |
| [14:28:00] | xpis: | Juski: which is why an easier install is needed. |
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| [14:29:00] | coffee88: | somebody told me on Friday that with MCE you can't even choose a specific input source to record... Weird. |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | xpis: it takes less time to install linux on a box than it does to install XP |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | by the time you take all the updates into account ;) |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | install patch.. reboot.. install more patches.. reboot.. more patches.. reboot |
| [14:29:00] | xpis: | Juski: but once MCE is installed, updated, anti-virus protected, etc.... everything is ready to go. |
| [14:29:00] | Puh: | all right, now i'm getting data from card 0 as usual |
| [14:29:00] | Puh: | phew |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | Puh: cool! |
| [14:30:00] | Juski: | xpis: problems with MCE... you can't mix tuner types |
| [14:30:00] | Juski: | i.e. if you have 2 tuners they've got to be both analogue or digital |
| [14:30:00] | Juski: | and you can only have two tuners |
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| [14:30:00] | Juski: | and the rest... sheesh |
| [14:30:00] | Juski: | it's no picnic to install & configure either |
| [14:31:00] | xpis: | Juski: Having to make sure you have library headers installed, have all the path settings correct, configure mythtv, compile & install it, set it up... |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | xpis: wtf are you talking about? |
| [14:31:00] | xpis: | Juski: that's what people have to go through to install mythtv. |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | I put mythtv on a spare box using ubuntu in less than 2 hours from a blank hard disk |
| [14:31:00] | coffee88: | xpis: If I found it easy on gentoo, it must be a piece of piss on something like knoppmyth! |
| [14:32:00] | xpis: | Juski: But you are not the average joe popping a fedora CD. |
| [14:32:00] | coffee88: | Cardoe? You there? |
| [14:32:00] | xpis: | Yes, gentoo would make things easier, as everything is done automagically... but compiling everything sounds scary to people with fedora CDs. |
| [14:32:00] | Juski: | well hey look – it's free, right.. well almost... so you've got to be prepared to roll up your sleevs & get a little dirty |
| [14:33:00] | Juski: | if users can't see that they should get lost ;) |
| [14:33:00] | Puh: | aah, i'm relieved ;) i need a drink ;) |
| [14:33:00] | Juski: | there are still people out there who can't operate TVs properly ffs, never mind work computers properly :P |
| [14:34:00] | lyndon: | has anyone got mythgame working? |
| [14:34:00] | Kyler: | I just re-encountered a problem I've been having with ivtv drivers for awhile. My second (of four) PVR-250s doesn't seem to like recording from s-video. The picture is horribly fuzzy. A few minutes ago I caught a recording like that. I verified that the input was set correctly and then tried setting it svideo2. That resulted in a black screen so I switched back to svideo1. Then it was fine. |
| [14:34:00] | gbee: | xpis: well in that case I don't see the launch of Windows Vista getting slashdotted either, nothing new there at all! ;) |
| [14:34:00] | xpis: | Juski: I think mythtv should be installable with a remote. Just like it can be operated with a remote. |
| [14:34:00] | Juski: | oh yeah right |
| [14:34:00] | xpis: | Juski: the ease of installation should approach the ease of use. |
| [14:34:00] | Juski: | so get coding young skywalker |
| [14:35:00] | laga: | it should be possible to map './configure; qmake mythtv.pro; make; sudo make install;' to a button your remote |
| [14:35:00] | Juski: | if Isaac and the other devs intended mythtv to get the widest possible audience I'd guess they'd already have made inroads to that |
| [14:36:00] | Juski: | laga: think I did the right thing locking the 0.19 announcement thread? ;) |
| [14:36:00] | xpis: | an installation wizard would have to detect missing libraries, and tell the user how to get them. It would be quite a task to detect every possible setup properly. |
| [14:36:00] | Juski: | xpis: yup... and then some |
| [14:37:00] | Juski: | knoppmyth works well in a lot of situations.. but it still asks users questions they can answer wrong & screw things up big style |
| [14:37:00] | xpis: | But it shouldn't require installing a linux live cd to install a software package. |
| [14:38:00] | xpis: | And knoppmyth may not have the latest drivers and such – something fedora would with a quick yum update kernel. |
| [14:38:00] | Juski: | talked to one of our customer service guys on friday.. he had a guy on asking where the enter key is on his keyboard |
| [14:38:00] | The_Login: | u can try ubuntu |
| [14:38:00] | The_Login: | i just discover a mythtv guide on ubuntu |
| [14:38:00] | The_Login: | http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/13/27/ |
| [14:38:00] | Juski: | The_Login: that way is so far the sweetest install I've ever done |
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| [14:40:00] | The_Login: | i just begin the installaton on ubuntu |
| [14:41:00] | xpis: | Then perhaps it is as simple as telling people to not use fedora, as there is no good source of mythtv RPMs. |
| [14:41:00] | Juski: | just posted to the users list about tv_grab_uk_rt not working,. hopefully someone will know |
| [14:42:00] | Juski: | xpis: jarod's guide is nothing if not comprehensive... but FC is letting folks down all over the place |
| [14:42:00] | xpis: | Also – due to patent issues, it is a bad idea to tell anyone to use binaries. |
| [14:42:00] | xpis: | Juski: the Fedora guide is good. (I've looked at it) But ATRPMS is not. |
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| [14:43:00] | xpis: | Juski: the package dependencies are beyond messed up. |
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| [14:43:00] | Juski: | rotfl @ patent issues... there aren't many things mythtv uses that are protected by patents... dvd playback of protected discs being one of them |
| [14:44:00] | Juski: | and then that doesn't have _much_ to do with myth itself |
| [14:44:00] | Juski: | installing that is the user's perogative |
| [14:44:00] | The_Login: | does the Hauppauge PVR-150 TV Tuner have a hardware mpeg2 decoder ? |
| [14:44:00] | Juski: | The_Login: it has an _en_coder |
| [14:44:00] | floffe: | The_Login: no |
| [14:44:00] | xpis: | Juski: mpeg4, lame |
| [14:45:00] | Juski: | possibly |
| [14:45:00] | xpis: | Juski: anyone distributing ffmpeg binaries could be sued. Esp. since now the SBC sharks have apparantly aquired another mpeg4 patent with AT&T. |
| [14:46:00] | Juski: | so can we not just pay our $0.20 and be done with it? |
| [14:46:00] | xpis: | That's a bit hard with the GPL. |
| [14:47:00] | The_Login: | Juski what linux distribution are u using ? |
| [14:47:00] | Juski: | The_Login: ubuntu on my spare unused box, gentoo on the backend & minimyth on the frontend |
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| [14:47:00] | floffe: | so nvidia's 7667 drivers are ok? |
| [14:47:00] | Juski: | floffe: apparently so |
| [14:49:00] | xpis: | I wish someone would license various patents and sell (licensed) open source binaries for a small fee. The source would of course be free and downloadable, since that only describes the patent – and would be covered under the GPL. |
| [14:49:00] | Juski: | anyway – dropping mp3 audio from mythtv wouldn't bother me too much – all I'd need do is re-rip all my 10,000 CDs |
| [14:50:00] | Juski: | I don't think I'd miss mpeg4 much either |
| [14:50:00] | xpis: | Also, there is currently no support for vorbis in recordings. |
| [14:50:00] | Juski: | though ac3, I rely on quite a bit... bloody dolby labs |
| [14:51:00] | xpis: | If patents on algorithms would just be overturned, the headaches would go away. |
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| [14:52:00] | Juski: | the BBC OSS codec is showing promise |
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| [14:52:00] | Juski: | they've patented it, but only to allow continued free use |
| [14:55:00] | coffee88: | huh?! I've just noticed (from mythlinking) somehow I've got some old recordings still in the dir that aren't in the db any more... |
| [14:55:00] | coffee88: | Any way to quicly fix? |
| [14:56:00] | Juski: | coffee88: look in the contrib directory |
| [14:56:00] | Juski: | or maybe mythlink needs an update |
| [14:56:00] | Puh: | livetv still seems jerky |
| [14:57:00] | Puh: | sound is ok, but the video is somehow jumpy |
| [14:57:00] | Juski: | Puh: any prebufferring pauses? |
| [14:57:00] | Puh: | like it would slow down and speed up in periods of about 1 second |
| [14:57:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [14:57:00] | Puh: | no |
| [14:57:00] | xpis: | Puh: try pausing it for a second and restarting it. |
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| [14:57:00] | Juski: | how's your CPU usage? |
| [14:57:00] | coffee88: | Juski: seems they are there... I think it was when I first started using mythweb, and it wasn't quite working right deleteing recordings.... |
| [14:58:00] | xpis: | Puh: Is the bahavior the same after restarting? |
| [14:58:00] | Puh: | it takes quite a long time for the playback to start, but then it plays without pauses, just jerks |
| [14:58:00] | Puh: | yes i saw this already before |
| [14:58:00] | Puh: | but the recorded programs play just fine |
| [14:58:00] | Puh: | its only the live tv that jerks |
| [14:58:00] | cryos_laptop: | Hey – anyone in here know anything about the Import DVD option? I press it and nothing happens. What does it need me to setup? |
| [14:58:00] | Juski: | Puh: I suspect it's the EIT grabbing |
| [14:58:00] | Puh: | hmm |
| [14:59:00] | Juski: | can't remember if the patches for that made it into 0.19 |
| [15:00:00] | Puh: | if you have some patches that could help out i'm willing to try em |
| [15:00:00] | Puh: | livetv is quite annoying like this |
| [15:00:00] | Puh: | not that i'd even use it much |
| [15:00:00] | Juski: | Puh: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . =eit;#174937 |
| [15:01:00] | Puh: | the eit handling is done in the backend? |
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| [15:01:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [15:01:00] | Juski: | backend usage without the patch was like 60% CPU when I was testing SVN |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | went down to <3% with the patch |
| [15:02:00] | Puh: | the backend has barely any load — load average around 0.26 and this is AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | it's very bursty |
| [15:02:00] | Puh: | hmm |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | and the fact the patch didn't get into 0.19 tells all ;) |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | nor did DVB radio |
| [15:03:00] | Juski: | they're on my list for when I upgrade |
| [15:03:00] | Juski: | theres gonna be a whole lot of traffic about this too I suspect |
| [15:04:00] | Puh: | hmh |
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| [15:05:00] | Puh: | the frontend says that there's like 20 seconds of data buffered |
| [15:05:00] | Puh: | and if the frontend gets it by nfs — how can the eit handling cause jerkiness? |
| [15:05:00] | Juski: | Puh: if you look at top, I suspect you'll see mythbackend using more than its old amount |
| [15:05:00] | Puh: | (i don't quite understand what i'm doing here :) |
| [15:06:00] | Juski: | Puh: before the patch, the EIT parser was doing a _lot_ of sql queries.. and that's what eats things up |
| [15:06:00] | Puh: | ok |
| [15:06:00] | Juski: | like hundreds in the space of a couple of seconds, every few seconds, all the time |
| [15:07:00] | Puh: | but the sql queries would still be from the backend machine to the mysql machine? |
| [15:07:00] | Juski: | you've got the database on a different machine to the backend? |
| [15:07:00] | Juski: | that'd make it even worse |
| [15:07:00] | Puh: | no, i meant that the queries still wouldn't affect the frontend playing back files over nfs? |
| [15:08:00] | Juski: | Puh: no |
| [15:08:00] | Juski: | but it's still possible that that is the cause |
| [15:09:00] | Juski: | anyway you don't need nfs to share recordings/ringbuffer |
| [15:09:00] | Juski: | myth can do it all itself |
| [15:09:00] | Juski: | all you really need nfs/samba for is to share files for mythvideo/mythmusic/mythgallery |
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| [15:10:00] | Puh: | i have xbox frontend with very little hd so i need nfs anyway |
| [15:10:00] | Juski: | ah well |
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| [15:11:00] | Juski: | Puh: one thing to check... in the capture card table... recording method should now be TS by default.. you may have had it set to PS previously |
| [15:11:00] | floffe: | hehe "Don't complain because your -momfg-fast-speed CFLAG is being stripped" |
| [15:12:00] | Puh: | nope, it's been ts for some time now as i needed the dvb subtitles |
| [15:12:00] | Puh: | i had a patch against 0.18.1 that enabled the subtitles, unfortunately the patch was a bit off and the subtitle timings were weird and the whole system a bit unstable :) |
| [15:13:00] | laga: | check beebof's stuff ;) |
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| [15:14:00] | theNeil: | Hi, anyone having probs populating the database using tv_grab_uk_rt? |
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| [15:14:00] | Juski: | theNeil: yup |
| [15:15:00] | coffee88: | theNeil: Yup |
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| [15:15:00] | Juski: | already asked on the users list |
| [15:15:00] | Juski: | they're just not putting any data out at all |
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| [15:15:00] | theNeil: | ah, ok grand! |
| [15:15:00] | Juski: | very bad |
| [15:15:00] | theNeil: | yes, channels.dat is empty |
| [15:15:00] | theNeil: | although the individual files seem ok |
| [15:16:00] | Juski: | we kinda need channels.dat ! |
| [15:16:00] | theNeil: | channels.dat is there, it has a timestamp of: Last-modified: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:00:01 GMT |
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| [15:16:00] | theNeil: | kinda, yes ;-) |
| [15:16:00] | Juski: | well someone could make one up & we could do a workaround |
| [15:16:00] | Puh: | i'll get some food now, i might try the eit patch later if i still have the energy |
| [15:16:00] | Puh: | thanks for all the help :) |
| [15:17:00] | Juski: | Puh: I just checked the 0.19 source – doesn't look like the EIT patch is in there |
| [15:17:00] | Puh: | ok |
| [15:17:00] | Juski: | I just had a quick look though – so it might be that it was just rewritten |
| [15:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not there |
| [15:17:00] | Juski: | me & my memory eh? ;) |
| [15:18:00] | Puh: | :) |
| [15:18:00] | Juski: | well I'll be alright Jack (tm) |
| [15:18:00] | Juski: | there's gonna be ructions though |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I'm always extremely happy with the output of my nvidia cards UNTIL I compare it directly with the output of my mvp... |
| [15:19:00] | Puh: | mythweb also seems to generate the thumbnail images again each time the recorded programs page loads |
| [15:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | nah, they get generated once |
| [15:19:00] | Puh: | as if the cache didn't work or something |
| [15:19:00] | Juski: | Puh: check permissions & configurable-ation thingies ;) |
| [15:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | that being said, my mythweb is a couple days old |
| [15:19:00] | floffe: | hmmm, anyone know where i can change the order the channels show up in the tv guide? |
| [15:19:00] | Puh: | but i have to go and get the pizzas now or my gf will kick my ass |
| [15:19:00] | Puh: | -> |
| [15:20:00] | coffee88: | Puh: I just turned off the thumbnails to speed things up... |
| [15:20:00] | Juski: | pizza for sunday lunch.. ouch |
| [15:20:00] | Juski: | having pork roast today :P |
| [15:20:00] | Juski: | well I've decided that if the radiotimes data will no longer be available, I have a plan |
| [15:20:00] | coffee88: | Juski: ever?! |
| [15:21:00] | theNeil: | it's only just not available, right? |
| [15:21:00] | theNeil: | or has this been a few days? |
| [15:21:00] | Juski: | it won't be nice & will involve the nice folks at Digiguide |
| [15:21:00] | theNeil: | how difficult is it to integrate the tv_grab_uk_bleb? |
| [15:21:00] | Juski: | uk_bleb depends on radiotimes |
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| [15:22:00] | theNeil: | bleb appears to work from the cmd-line? |
| [15:23:00] | Juski: | jees – and it does icon grabberring too |
| [15:23:00] | Esotericisms: | do we have upgrade instructions for 0.19? |
| [15:23:00] | laga: | Esotericisms: get a backup. :) |
| [15:23:00] | laga: | at least of your myythconverg database |
| [15:24:00] | laga: | and then..install! :P |
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| [15:26:00] | Esotericisms: | really? hrm ... |
| [15:27:00] | Juski: | dunno where bleb gets its data from... just the bleb website by the looks of it.. as to exactly _where_.. who knows? |
| [15:28:00] | Esotericisms: | so backup the db, install, then re-import the db? |
| [15:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, backup db, install, done |
| [15:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | the backup is incase the automatic db updates fail |
| [15:29:00] | coffee88: | There's a cached channels.dat on google from a week or so ago... Can we use this until it's fixed? |
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| [15:30:00] | coffee88: | Doesn't look complete though. :-( |
| [15:30:00] | Esotericisms: | GreyFoxx, what distro are you running with myth? |
| [15:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | slackware |
| [15:32:00] | mocker: | Does anyone have any recommendations on prebuilt slimline PCs? |
| [15:32:00] | mocker: | Or slimline cases? |
| [15:32:00] | mocker: | (if that's even the right term) |
| [15:32:00] | possie_: | anyone that has a link to the new mythtv theme? |
| [15:33:00] | possie_: | screenshots i mean |
| [15:33:00] | Kelerion: | new theme? which new theme? |
| [15:33:00] | possie_: | MythCenter |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | oh, i thought you were talking about www.jmeyer.us |
| [15:33:00] | Esotericisms: | holy hell, 102 mb for my db ... dang |
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| [15:34:00] | Juski: | just download the bloody theme & have done with it ;) |
| [15:34:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv/ |
| [15:34:00] | possie_: | Juski, if i had a mythtv box in my presence i would do that indeed |
| [15:34:00] | coffee88: | laga: I get a 403 from that link?! |
| [15:34:00] | Esotericisms: | do I need to stop the services GreyFoxx? |
| [15:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i have a slimline case |
| [15:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its nice but idk my fan is really loud |
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| [15:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | so im going to A. keep it in my closet.. and just run the wire.. or B get a new fan |
| [15:35:00] | possie_: | Kelerion, yeah i had that page as well, it only contains one screen shot |
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| [15:35:00] | mocker: | Yellow-Snow: Yeah, I'm trying to avoid noise in my new system. |
| [15:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | it mainly was my cpu fan that i ened to replace |
| [15:36:00] | mocker: | Yellow-Snow: Is that the term you used when finding it? |
| [15:36:00] | mocker: | Or is there a better search query? |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Esotericisms: Stop what? Stop the backend and frontend? Well, that would certainly be a good idea :) |
| [15:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | for what |
| [15:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | mocker i can show u my case |
| [15:36:00] | Yellow-Snow: | cheap |
| [15:36:00] | mocker: | Yellow-Snow: Yeah, what brand is it? |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | But you only gotta stop them where you are ready to do the make install (if compiling from source) and reinstall after |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | err restart |
| [15:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.amamax.com/cotdmeceatxm.html |
| [15:37:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah, I am running on Fedora, I think I can apt-get the binaries and install it |
| [15:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | 49.99 w/ a 550w paer supply w/ free shipping |
| [15:38:00] | Yellow-Snow: | mocker go to www.pricewatch.com |
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| [15:47:00] | chuckyp: | So what would cause my set up to just die all of the sudden after mythweb crashed the backend? I've double checked settings in mythtv-setup everything appears okay; however, I just get static for video. This is after restart, system was working for approximately 3 days prior to this event. |
| [15:48:00] | chuckyp: | IVTV is loading without errors remote is working but static from the tunner in mythfrontend. |
| [15:48:00] | chuckyp: | I had to redo the db because mythweb hosed it somehow and then mythtv-setup was re ran and mythfilldatabase etc.... |
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| [15:49:00] | chuckyp: | cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg also results in static. |
| [15:50:00] | Esotericisms: | aparently there aren't any binaries for 0.19 right now in the apt repositories :( |
| [15:50:00] | floffe: | does the channel table in the db look good? |
| [15:51:00] | chuckyp: | floffe: everything appears fine in the db; however, I'm not using the db when using cat /dev/video0 as stated above. |
| [15:51:00] | chuckyp: | floffe: just to test the tuner. So i'm thinking ivtv got screwed up somehow. |
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| [15:52:00] | Octane: | anyone here have a change channel script for a settop box that needs you to send out each channel digit seperately? the change channel script that i have sends the digits all at once... |
| [15:52:00] | chuckyp: | floffe: or the tuner somehow died at the same time. |
| [15:52:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: yes I have one. |
| [15:53:00] | Jin^eLD: | has anyone been able to compile mythtv for mipsel? |
| [15:53:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: like you mean send 2 then 4 then 9 then enter, you can even configure it for no enter. |
| [15:53:00] | Octane: | yes! |
| [15:53:00] | Octane: | the one i have sends 2 4 9 |
| [15:53:00] | Octane: | SEND_ONCE 2 4 9 |
| [15:54:00] | Octane: | i need SEND_ONCE 2; SEND_ONCE 4; SEND_ONCE 9; |
| [15:54:00] | Octane: | so it needs to parse the number it gets from the command line |
| [15:54:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: this is the best one i've found on the web so far and I'm using it now. Link is http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/lmilk/change_channel |
| [15:55:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: it also parses numbers from text commands so you need to edit your lirc.conf so that number keys start with numbers and function keys such as power etc.. start with letters. |
| [15:55:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: If you read the script its pretty easy to understand. |
| [15:56:00] | Juski: | laga: I'm amazed there've not been any posts with 0.19 problems on the forum yet.. it must just work, then :-O |
| [15:56:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: also keep in mind this is a perl script. |
| [15:56:00] | Kelerion: | oh -cool.. a slave backend can save to a different storage area and all the frontends can still see it.. didn't realise that |
| [15:56:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: yeah I'm just waiting for the binaries because I think it will fix a lot of my problems. |
| [15:56:00] | Octane: | chuckyp thanks, i dont think this is it though... it just adds spaces b/w the digits |
| [15:56:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: yeh that's what the myth protocol does ;-) |
| [15:57:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. it makes sense.. just didn't occur to me.. lol |
| [15:57:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: no it adds spaces then sends each one individually I believe let me check real quick. It adds spaces just so the script can understand each digit seperately. |
| [15:57:00] | Juski: | you could go to the trouble of sharing the folders all mounted to one place, but there's no merit |
| [15:58:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: like myth sends change_channel 249 then the script changes that to irsend .... 2 irsend .... 4 irsend ...9 then if you turn the enter option on it sends the enter key. |
| [15:58:00] | JeffATL: | do i need to concern myself with this "MythTV is still very much bleeding edge, and you may find a lot of useful bugfixes in the latest versions. Ebuilds from SVN can be obtained here:" given that gentoo portage is calling up mythtv-0.18.1-r1 ? |
| [15:58:00] | Juski: | JeffATL: give it a while until 0.19 is no longer hard masked |
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| [15:58:00] | Juski: | unless you want to build it from source |
| [15:59:00] | floffe: | JeffATL: .19 compiled fine for me |
| [15:59:00] | floffe: | Juski: gentoo builds from source |
| [15:59:00] | Juski: | when I say build from source I mean compile yourself |
| [15:59:00] | chuckyp: | Octane: if you read the script it has a counter for the ammount of digits so if you are trying to change to a 3 digit channel it sends each one independantly. |
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| [16:00:00] | Juski: | and when I say compile yourself I mean download the tarball, unpack it, configure & make it yourself rather than rely on the ebuild ;) |
| [16:00:00] | floffe: | Juski: well, the ebuild worked fine for me (haven't started using it yet though ;) ) |
| [16:00:00] | chuckyp: | Does anyone know where there are updating instructions from .18.1 to .19? All the documentation on updating seems to be dated like .11 etc... |
| [16:00:00] | Juski: | if you've not used it yet you can hardly say it works ;) |
| [16:01:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: backup the database, then just install the new one |
| [16:01:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: no need to install the old one or all the old plugins? |
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| [16:01:00] | JeffATL: | Juski: given the deep depenencies of mythtv, that sounds like a ticket to hell |
| [16:02:00] | Juski: | JeffATL: emerge 0.18.1 and then build 0.19 yourself ;) |
| [16:02:00] | Juski: | that should nix most missing things if not all |
| [16:02:00] | Juski: | or read the ebuild file |
| [16:02:00] | Puh: | this might be stupid question, but how do i use the brand new mpeg2 cutter? |
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| [16:03:00] | Puh: | its a transcoder i guess? |
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| [16:03:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: I meant no need to unistall .18.1 or all the old plugins just install over top? |
| [16:03:00] | Puh: | so i mark the commercial breaks and then .. what? |
| [16:03:00] | Juski: | dunno.. mebbe something to add as a user job |
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| [16:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | nah, there is a transcoder profile "Autodetect from Mpeg2" |
| [16:04:00] | Juski: | chuckyp: just install the new over the top |
| [16:04:00] | chuckyp: | Juski: gotcha |
| [16:04:00] | Puh: | GreyFoxx, what exactly does this "autodetect" autodetect? |
| [16:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you go in there and choose lossles encoding or some such on the first page, then it will do mpeg2->mpeg2 withoiut transcoding |
| [16:05:00] | Puh: | ok |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | the fact that the source is mpeg2 :) |
| [16:05:00] | Puh: | ah, ok :) |
| [16:05:00] | Puh: | must try that next :) |
| [16:05:00] | hfghfh: | has anyone heard any news on getting the irblaster on the mce remote to work with lirc |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I started playing wiht it the other night, works pretty well in my tests |
| [16:05:00] | Puh: | i guess this feels a bit like buying a new car or something ;) |
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| [16:05:00] | Puh: | "i must start smoking so i can try this ashtray" |
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| [16:06:00] | Puh: | well i must say everything seems better than before |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | new MVPMC and new Myth on the same day, heh |
| [16:09:00] | xpis: | hm.. does svn have an easy way to revert to a specific version? |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | -r |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | svn -r REVNUM |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can use it in a checkout or update |
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| [16:10:00] | xpis: | ok. That will make things easier when trying to update my 4 machines |
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| [16:15:00] | Kelerion: | ok – now I'm confused.. I have a MBE recording to one storage area.. a SBE recording to another storage area.. but the MBE's recordings are all jumpy and blippy |
| [16:15:00] | Kelerion: | it shouldn't even be affecting the MBE |
| [16:15:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [16:16:00] | Juski: | if all you're using the SBE for is that cctv camera doo-dah, mabbe time to rethink it needing myth |
| [16:16:00] | Kelerion: | am beginning to think the same |
| [16:17:00] | Juski: | that thing I pointed out earlier isn't the only linux cctv app |
| [16:17:00] | JeffATL: | what needs to come first – emerging nvidia stuff or mythtv and its deps? |
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| [16:17:00] | Juski: | most basic stuff first generally, so nvidia |
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| [16:18:00] | rav3r: | i have svideo out and a monitor, and right now mythtv comes up on both of them, and i have to exit the one on the monitor, is there a way to not have that one automaticaly start? |
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| [16:23:00] | lightx: | anyone know if there is an article, an howto on how to build mythtv on linux for a mac frontend? |
| [16:23:00] | lightx: | or if its even possible |
| [16:23:00] | chuckyp: | lightx: building it on linux doesn't matter. If your frontend is on a mac. |
| [16:24:00] | lightx: | chuckyp, so, yes its doable? |
| [16:24:00] | rav3r: | im using myth-load.sh from jarod, but don't know how to get the "mythfrontend &" to target just one screen |
| [16:24:00] | chuckyp: | lightx: are you talking about installing the backend on a nix box, then installing a frontend on the mac box? |
| [16:25:00] | chuckyp: | rav3r: you need to turn off twinview. |
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| [16:25:00] | chuckyp: | rav3r: mostlikely does nix display on both monitors? |
| [16:25:00] | lightx: | chuckyp, i got my backend installed, i just want to build mythtv for my powerbook which act as a frontend |
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| [16:26:00] | lightx: | what im asking is |
| [16:26:00] | lightx: | can i build my Mac frontend on my linux box ? |
| [16:26:00] | Kelerion: | lightx: it's doable.. and a few people have done it |
| [16:26:00] | Kelerion: | you can build a frontend on a mac |
| [16:27:00] | chuckyp: | lightx: yeah I guess I don't know why you would wan tot do that though. Don't they have a mac frontend availible? |
| [16:27:00] | rav3r: | chuckyp: i would like to keep the second monitor running, just not mythfrontend automatically loading on it |
| [16:27:00] | chuckyp: | rav3r: ahhh |
| [16:27:00] | rav3r: | right now, i just exit one of them |
| [16:27:00] | lightx: | chuckyp, im not sure, havent seen one with the latest rls |
| [16:28:00] | lightx: | Kelerion, how about building it on linux tho, for my mac |
| [16:28:00] | chuckyp: | rav3r: possibly check with nvidia support. About launching an app on one monitor I have no idea how they handle the twinview in linux. |
| [16:28:00] | chuckyp: | rav3r: not really a myth issue more of an nvidia issue. |
| [16:28:00] | Kelerion: | doubt it |
| [16:29:00] | rav3r: | thanks |
| [16:30:00] | rav3r: | i got the .sh from jarod's site, just don't know what to change in it |
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| [16:30:00] | Kelerion: | lightx: http://swik.net/Mac+MythTV?tagspage |
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| [16:31:00] | Kelerion: | theres ready made downloads for mac |
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| [16:32:00] | lightx: | yeah, actually, i just found one from the sniderpad.com |
| [16:32:00] | PhilQ: | Hi anyone seen mythfrontend terminate with a 'std::bad_alloc' call? |
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| [16:34:00] | thelogin: | hello |
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| [16:34:00] | floffe: | hmm, i don't get livetv with .19 |
| [16:35:00] | thelogin: | i got i problem when i start mythtv i got that message "Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES)" |
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| [16:36:00] | [Elvis]: | can anyone tell me where I can find the grabber when I emerge mythtv on gentoo? |
| [16:36:00] | theNeil: | thelogin Have you populated the database with mc.sql? |
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| [16:37:00] | thelogin: | The_Login, dunno |
| [16:37:00] | thelogin: | The_Login, how do i will ? |
| [16:38:00] | theNeil: | thelogin: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Manual:Index |
| [16:38:00] | theNeil: | follow through initial installation |
| [16:39:00] | thelogin: | theNeil, thx |
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| [16:40:00] | laga: | Juski: i believe most people are still trying to figure out how they can extract the tarball, that's why we don't have any problems yet |
| [16:40:00] | theNeil: | You mean 0.19? |
| [16:40:00] | theNeil: | I tried to d/l it last night but the site wasn't up (c. 0100 GMT) so I waited until this morning and I now have it up and running fine albeit without tv_grab_uk_rt working! |
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| [16:42:00] | Cromz: | hmm least I'm further then extracting the tarball.. the configure isn't seeing that I do infact have lame installed. oh well.. |
| [16:43:00] | theNeil: | the download counter is whizzing up on the homepage! |
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| [16:46:00] | pac1: | is there any place to go that has various error messages you get from myth with their causes and possible solutions? |
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| [16:47:00] | PhilQ: | Is there a good way to check the sanity of the .nuv files Myth produces? |
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| [16:50:00] | Cromz: | strange.. dunno why if didnt make the usr/local/lib links before. oh well. lol |
| [16:50:00] | Cromz: | must not have been holding my mouth right or something when I compiled it. :/ |
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| [16:52:00] | thelogin: | hello again |
| [16:52:00] | thelogin: | i started myth tv but it dispaly message couldn't connect to the backend server |
| [16:53:00] | laga: | is the backend running? |
| [16:53:00] | thelogin: | dunno |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | *shrug* |
| [16:54:00] | pac1: | thelogin, you have to start the backend server. |
| [16:54:00] | thelogin: | ok thx |
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| [16:57:00] | pac1: | Mine's running but i've got some permission problem: Can't open video device, error "Permission denied" |
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| [16:59:00] | pac1: | what should permissions be for /mnt/store and the files in it? |
| [17:02:00] | The_Login: | where cen i configure the backend server ip ? |
| [17:03:00] | floffe: | mythtv-setup in .19, mythsetup (maybe with a dash there) in earlier |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | Hitachi LMG7420PLFC-X: |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | * module size: 159,4(W)mm * 101,0(H)mm * 11,0(D)mm |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | darn, sorry |
| [17:04:00] | sPiN: | hehe i bet you guys are busy today :) |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | bleh |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | no busier than usual |
| [17:05:00] | sPiN: | i think im finally going to make a few notes on how to compile mythtv on a 64bit suse box, for mythplugins, you have to edit the settings.pro file to reflect the proper paths |
| [17:05:00] | sPiN: | ive had quiet a few emails and comments on my website asking me to write a guide for it |
| [17:07:00] | pac1: | set group on all /dev/video* to video. now I'm getting QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [17:07:00] | pac1: | Failed to bind port: 6543 |
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| [17:09:00] | sPiN: | damn, my database has gotten screwed up :( |
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| [17:09:00] | sPiN: | my whole machine becomes unresponsive when i go into the media library, i was running the svn, but i just compiled .19 |
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| [17:10:00] | sPiN: | it shows a blank media library, even though i have several recordings... |
| [17:10:00] | sPiN: | and it wont respond to even ctrl alt delete |
| [17:10:00] | sPiN: | are there any tools to repair the database? |
| [17:11:00] | sPiN: | i had this issue with the svn release too btw.... |
| [17:11:00] | Kelerion: | sure your looking at the right recording group? |
| [17:12:00] | sPiN: | just started yesterday, and when i watch live tv, it seems to work fine, but the backend console sessions spits out driver error was [2/1016] QMYSQL unable to execute query data base errror was cant open file: 'recordedmarkup.MYI'( errno: 145) |
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| [17:13:00] | sPiN: | yeah i have it set to let me pick which group i want, |
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| [17:14:00] | sPiN: | i dont know what caused this originally, it all started last night when i set the olympics to record, then tried to watch the recording while it was still going, and it frooze on a the 'select a recording to watch' but it never shows anything to watch, and i have to hard reset my machine :( |
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| [17:15:00] | isamuel: | hi guys. I'm using a MythTV box both as a backend/transcoder machine and as a router for a very small home network (1–2 devices). I've noticed that when mythtranscode is running, I drop packets like crazy and the entire network slows to a crawl. I've tried renicing the transcode process to no avail--is there an obvious solution I'm overlooking? |
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| [17:16:00] | ** sphing points to topic... 19 is out? ** | |
| [17:16:00] | tehNeil: | yeah! |
| [17:16:00] | ** tehNeil dances a little dance ** | |
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| [17:17:00] | sPiN: | i can shut it down cleanly if i ssh in and send a reboot |
| [17:18:00] | sphing: | isamuel: my only remote idea, is that maybe youre renicing incorrectly? |
| [17:18:00] | isamuel: | sphing: higher nice value is better/"nicer" right? i set it to like, +19 |
| [17:18:00] | sphing: | no |
| [17:18:00] | sphing: | other way |
| [17:18:00] | sphing: | man nice |
| [17:19:00] | floffe: | isamuel: yes, 19 is the one with lowest priority |
| [17:19:00] | Kelerion: | +19 is the lowest priority |
| [17:19:00] | isamuel: | yeah that's what I thought. :) |
| [17:20:00] | sphing: | better is negative... |
| [17:20:00] | sphing: | highest priority is -20 |
| [17:20:00] | isamuel: | yeah, I'm saying I set it to a really low priority |
| [17:20:00] | isamuel: | because I want the box to stop dropping packets when routing |
| [17:20:00] | sphing: | o. i misunderstood... |
| [17:20:00] | simcop2387: | 0.19 was released for my 21st birthday! i'm updating it later today |
| [17:21:00] | rav3r: | fyi: export DISPLAY=:0.1 (or 0.0) sends a command to a target screen in a startup .sh |
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| [17:21:00] | Juski: | isamuel: you can set the target cpu to use for transcoding & commflagging to make it use less IIRC |
| [17:22:00] | isamuel: | oh hrm |
| [17:22:00] | isamuel: | let me check that |
| [17:22:00] | simcop2387: | yea theres an option for low middle high |
| [17:22:00] | simcop2387: | for commflaggi9ng its in mythsetup, dunno where it is for transcoding |
| [17:22:00] | simcop2387: | never checked |
| [17:23:00] | The_Login: | what is the plugin to run divx from cd on mythtv |
| [17:23:00] | laga: | simcop2387: happy birthday;) |
| [17:23:00] | Juski: | The_Login: mythvideo |
| [17:24:00] | simcop2387: | laga: i just like thinking that 0.19 was released all for me :) |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | and you can't just go playing stuff off of CDs :-P |
| [17:24:00] | The_Login: | thx |
| [17:24:00] | sphing: | telnet socket... interesting? |
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| [17:25:00] | ShockValue: | what does the mythcontrol package do? |
| [17:25:00] | Juski: | god does nobody keep up to date with the docs? will somebody please keep up to date with the docs?! |
| [17:26:00] | ShockValue: | i just noticed the name fly by when i was compiling something.. no need to get grouchy :) |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | ShockValue: mythcontrol... for editing your key bindings inside the frontend |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | I fink |
| [17:26:00] | sphing: | juski: you know the reason for the telnet control? |
| [17:26:00] | sPiN: | have any of you ever had your database get corrupted? |
| [17:27:00] | sphing: | yes... on crashes |
| [17:27:00] | Kelerion: | the telnet control allows remote control of a frontend |
| [17:27:00] | sPiN: | sphing, what did you do to resolve it? |
| [17:27:00] | Kelerion: | via a telnet socket |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | sphing: yeh... it's so you can erm.. control mythfrontend from any device capable of using telnet |
| [17:27:00] | sphing: | spin: used a backup |
| [17:27:00] | sPiN: | damn, does it make backups automatically by chance? |
| [17:28:00] | ShockValue: | Cardoe: MythDVD installed cleanly. Still getting errors with MythWeb: http://pastebin.com/551376 |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [17:28:00] | sPiN: | cause my db was fine yesterday before the olympics |
| [17:28:00] | Kelerion: | "go to epg" "go to livetv" "press R key" type commands |
| [17:28:00] | sphing: | Juski: lol.. yes i know whats its for, why was it developped, I'm sure there is a good reason for it... |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | sphing: someone paid a bounty for it |
| [17:29:00] | Juski: | that someone was plutohome |
| [17:29:00] | The_Login: | how to eject the cd on mythtv :) |
| [17:29:00] | Juski: | wtf is the point of being able to eject discs with remote control ? |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | Juski: scaring the cat? |
| [17:30:00] | Juski: | you need to get up out of your chair to insert a disc... |
| [17:30:00] | Juski: | laga: lol |
| [17:30:00] | ShockValue: | Juski: ive never understood that either |
| [17:30:00] | The_Login: | Juski not from the remote but using keyboard |
| [17:30:00] | Juski: | sharpen the edges of your DVDs.. then modify the mechanism... much more fun :-D |
| [17:30:00] | The_Login: | cause whene i push the cd ejevt butoon it doenst respond |
| [17:30:00] | Juski: | oh dear. someone hasn't unmounted the disc |
| [17:31:00] | sphing: | sPiN: thanks, you just reminded me to run a backup |
| [17:31:00] | sphing: | :) |
| [17:32:00] | sPiN: | so im screwed huh? i should take my shows that i have in my store dir and put them else where... then i should empty that database and start with a fresh one? |
| [17:33:00] | Juski: | take a pen and write out the following one million times: "I must back up my database" ;-) |
| [17:33:00] | Kelerion: | there's a rebuilddb script in the contrib |
| [17:34:00] | Kelerion: | "myth.rebuilddatabase.pl" |
| [17:36:00] | isamuel: | also, if I'm recording standard NTSC, what's the ideal resolution to be recording at? |
| [17:36:00] | sPiN: | thanks Kelerion, ill give that a shot |
| [17:36:00] | The_Login: | Juski i cannot play my divx movie when i select them on te list |
| [17:37:00] | sPiN: | Juski, well for the record, this wasnt because i installed myth .19, this all happened yesterday when i recoreded the olympics |
| [17:37:00] | Juski: | The_Login: are you missing mplayer perchance? |
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| [17:37:00] | The_Login: | :) i'm gona see |
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| [17:37:00] | Juski: | mplayer is the default player mythvideo uses |
| [17:37:00] | sPiN: | isamuel, i record mine at 640x480 becuase i use a svideo out to put the signal on my tv, and that is the highest res supported by svideo |
| [17:38:00] | isamuel: | Ah. |
| [17:38:00] | simcop2387: | yay updating :) |
| [17:38:00] | Juski: | sPiN: I've got 720x576 running with svideo |
| [17:38:00] | sPiN: | Juski, thats PAL isnt it? |
| [17:38:00] | Juski: | and it appears that minimyth has a beta for 0.19, so it's bye bye gentoo tomorrow |
| [17:38:00] | Puh: | btw can the frontend playback buffer size be adjusted somehow? |
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| [17:39:00] | Juski: | sPiN: yes it's PAL but you could also do 720x480 in NTSC over svideo if your card is up to the task |
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| [17:39:00] | sPiN: | Juski, yeah i did 720x480 but i couldnt see a diff on my 32" crt tv.. using a pvr 150 |
| [17:39:00] | Juski: | some chrontel TV encoders used on older nvidia cards won't look good over 640x480 though.. fuzzy/inverted colours & other artifacts |
| [17:40:00] | Juski: | I can tell the difference on my TV so I use 720x576 |
| [17:40:00] | Juski: | 480x480 looks like vhs by comparison |
| [17:40:00] | sPiN: | yeah 480x480 was aweful |
| [17:41:00] | ** Juski wonders what ubuntu is like for managing partitions manually at install time ** | |
| [17:41:00] | Juski: | don't like the idea of lumping all my disks onto one LVM |
| [17:41:00] | The_Login: | Juski now it work mplayer was missing |
| [17:42:00] | Juski: | cool. btw for menu support in DVDs you'll need xine, VLC or Ogle |
| [17:42:00] | Juski: | and in 0.20, the internal player :) |
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| [17:43:00] | The_Login: | the 0.20 is it the myththv version |
| [17:43:00] | Kelerion: | Juski: it's not bad.. I managed to sortout my software raid with it |
| [17:43:00] | Juski: | The_Login: yup |
| [17:44:00] | twisted_one: | Are there working .ebuilds for 0.19, the ones which are currently in portage appear to be slightly retarded. mythtv depends on mythtv-themes, which in turn depends on mythtv. So neither one will build without the other being built first... |
| [17:44:00] | The_Login: | does it have an intarbal player ? |
| [17:44:00] | The_Login: | internal |
| [17:44:00] | Juski: | infernal? |
| [17:44:00] | twisted_one: | playing from inside a tarball? =P |
| [17:44:00] | Juski: | twisted_one: I wouldn't have said 'retarded if I were you' ;-) |
| [17:44:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [17:44:00] | twisted_one: | good point |
| [17:45:00] | twisted_one: | oh shit, Cardoe wrote them... |
| [17:45:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [17:45:00] | twisted_one: | sorry maan |
| [17:45:00] | twisted_one: | I just woke up...? =P |
| [17:46:00] | Juski: | there had to be a reason they're hard masked |
| [17:46:00] | Juski: | for what it's worth just download the source & build it yeself |
| [17:47:00] | twisted_one: | Hrmm |
| [17:47:00] | twisted_one: | Really dont like doing that on that box... |
| [17:47:00] | floffe: | i got the .19 ebuilds to work fine by unmasking them |
| [17:48:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm |
| [17:48:00] | twisted_one: | I'll resync perhaps they were changed already |
| [17:48:00] | The_Login: | how to chek the mythtv version ? |
| [17:49:00] | floffe: | although i can't get it to tune in any channel |
| [17:50:00] | Juski: | funny definition of 'work fine' but carry on |
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| [17:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | good day |
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| [17:53:00] | floffe: | s/work/compile |
| [17:53:00] | floffe: | probably |
| [17:53:00] | Juski: | welcome to the funhouse, _willcooke_ |
| [17:54:00] | _willcooke_: | hey Juski, how's it going? I've finally managed to get ffmpeg to compile today, so I'm busy with nuvexport to tidy up my recorded list a bit |
| [17:54:00] | Juski: | omg.. 500GB sata2 HDD for £221.56 inc vat! |
| [17:54:00] | _willcooke_: | mmmmmmm. storage |
| [17:55:00] | ** Juski is gonna drop gentoo tomorrow.. preparing for that now ** | |
| [17:55:00] | _willcooke_: | drop as in get rid of? |
| [17:55:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [17:55:00] | _willcooke_: | ubuntu instead? ;) |
| [17:55:00] | Juski: | yrp |
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| [17:55:00] | _willcooke_: | yay! |
| [17:56:00] | _willcooke_: | it's the future. I've tasted it. |
| [17:56:00] | Juski: | wait a sec... I could just about install ubuntu on a different box & just swap the HDD over |
| [17:56:00] | pac1: | what advantages ubuntu? |
| [17:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody managed to get mythmusic to take fftw libs? |
| [17:56:00] | sPiN: | bah, i cant get myth.rebuilddatabase.pl to work... keeps telling me it cant connect to db with the defualts |
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| [17:57:00] | sPiN: | and ive tried it setting what i know to be the correct user/pass and host and i know they are right because i can login just fine |
| [17:57:00] | Juski: | pac1: I'm sick of gentoo breaking when I update stuff. I don't update much, and would prefer to keep it that way |
| [17:57:00] | _willcooke_: | pac1, no real advantages as far as myth goes, just a nice distro |
| [17:57:00] | sPiN: | doh, fixed it... needed to use dbhost as localhost instead of the hostname |
| [17:58:00] | isamuel: | alright I was dicking around with stuff and now I get "Invalid file handle when opening (name of file to record to). 4 retries remaining" when I try to record anything. crap. wtf did I do? |
| [17:58:00] | ** Juski keeps schtum ** | |
| [17:59:00] | Juski: | isamuel: what did you dick around with? |
| [17:59:00] | isamuel: | just changed the resolution in mythsetup |
| [17:59:00] | isamuel: | and the bitrate |
| [17:59:00] | isamuel: | nothing really weird |
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| [17:59:00] | Kelerion: | isamuel: but your alright because you backed everything up before dicking around.. ... right?? |
| [17:59:00] | Juski: | try restarting mythbackend |
| [18:00:00] | isamuel: | i failed to do a full off-site backup before changing the capture bitrate, I guess. :) |
| [18:00:00] | isamuel: | Juski: i already did |
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| [18:01:00] | Juski: | I'm off to watch 'click' |
| [18:01:00] | scopeuk: | ive managed to rangle myself a drive |
| [18:01:00] | scopeuk: | so no pissign about for storage yay |
| [18:02:00] | _willcooke_: | laters Juski |
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| [18:03:00] | scopeuk: | telnet daemon is jsut telnetd on apt-get isent it |
| [18:03:00] | _willcooke_: | scopeuk, should be |
| [18:04:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [18:04:00] | scopeuk: | i jsut figure my sister will be hoem shortly and will probably want here keyboard back |
| [18:04:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [18:04:00] | scopeuk: | yeh my bigest probalem i have more bases than keyboards mice or monitors |
| [18:05:00] | _willcooke_: | use ssh instead of telnet |
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| [18:05:00] | scopeuk: | could do sshd? |
| [18:05:00] | _willcooke_: | scopeuk, vnc & ssh are handy here! |
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| [18:05:00] | scopeuk: | yes most likely |
| [18:05:00] | _willcooke_: | scopeuk, depending on your distro, it might be "openssh-server" or similar |
| [18:05:00] | scopeuk: | knpopp myth has webmin right? |
| [18:05:00] | scopeuk: | so i cna breake in quickly any way |
| [18:05:00] | _willcooke_: | dunno |
| [18:05:00] | scopeuk: | its debian |
| [18:06:00] | scopeuk: | and im prety sure it does |
| [18:06:00] | scopeuk: | ive been waiting weeks to do this |
| [18:06:00] | scopeuk: | then someon broughtme a system with a "flakey" hdd and gave me another to swap it for |
| [18:06:00] | scopeuk: | so m gonna "test" the flakey one |
| [18:06:00] | scopeuk: | and hope to hell it aint a bad ide interface on the motherboard |
| [18:07:00] | scopeuk: | then again its only a socket aso ill pay for the mobo if it is |
| [18:07:00] | scopeuk: | my mistake ill pay for it |
| [18:07:00] | scopeuk: | but i figure that it was jsut ntfs that got screwed and my myth box isent critical yet |
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| [18:09:00] | scopeuk: | was talking to some guy in koppmyth channel the other day and hes built a bootable cd backend off mandrake |
| [18:09:00] | scopeuk: | i have his frotn end iso but unftunately for some reason the grahics dont work on my myth box |
| [18:09:00] | Weezey: | if I removed some channels from my zap2it profile, what's the best way to remove them from the database? |
| [18:10:00] | Kelerion: | mythweb or the Channel Editor in mythsetup |
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| [18:11:00] | Weezey: | Kelerion: right, forgot about that, thanks. |
| [18:12:00] | Kelerion: | mythweb is the easiest if you have it installed |
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| [18:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | poke? anybody use mythmusic and fftw for visualizations? |
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| [18:25:00] | coffee88: | ShockValue: What version of webapp-config are you using? I was getting the same type of errors with web apps unitl I upgraded webapp-config |
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| [18:33:00] | ShockValue: | coffee88_away: 1.10 it looks like.. i'll try to upgrade |
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| [18:34:00] | Scopeuk_: | any one here using knoppmyth there chanel doesent seam to be bothered about helpign anyone |
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| [18:34:00] | laga: | Scopeuk_: they're probably just afk or something. |
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| [18:35:00] | Scopeuk_: | yeh im jsut having a small issue at boot mind if i ask think it might be lilo playing up |
| [18:35:00] | laga: | ask away |
| [18:35:00] | chuckyp: | Scopeuk_: what issue are you having? And are you using SATA or SCSI? |
| [18:35:00] | Scopeuk_: | oh im usign an ide drive |
| [18:36:00] | Scopeuk_: | its hda |
| [18:36:00] | chuckyp: | Scopeuk_: k whats going on. |
| [18:36:00] | Scopeuk_: | lilo gets to "BIOS data check successful" then locks up |
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| [18:36:00] | laga: | you sure that his message belongs to lilo? |
| [18:36:00] | scopeuk: | it seams to be in alot of results on google |
| [18:37:00] | scopeuk: | im nto certain though |
| [18:37:00] | chuckyp: | Scopeuk: yeah knoppmyth distro is screwed up. You need to boot the cd and chroot to /dev/hda and then fix the lilo.conf |
| [18:37:00] | scopeuk: | ok could yo talk me through it? |
| [18:37:00] | Weezey: | sweet, any word on when rpms will have 0.19 ? |
| [18:37:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: been a while since I fixed it I think there are walkthroughs avaiible but I know thats your problem. |
| [18:37:00] | scopeuk: | i waok |
| [18:38:00] | chuckyp: | Weezey: don't they usually compile on sundays? |
| [18:38:00] | scopeuk: | ok* |
| [18:38:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: I'll hunt around on google hold up. |
| [18:38:00] | scopeuk: | ok thanks alot |
| [18:38:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: they really need to fix there distro though. |
| [18:38:00] | scopeuk: | yeh |
| [18:38:00] | scopeuk: | couldent agree more |
| [18:39:00] | scopeuk: | hda1 wasent even flaged as bootable |
| [18:39:00] | scopeuk: | that was first thing i cheacked |
| [18:40:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: did you make it bootable with cfdisk or whatever? |
| [18:40:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: alright i'll try to walk you threw it I need a smoke first. |
| [18:41:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [18:41:00] | scopeuk: | and yes ive set it to bootable |
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| [18:43:00] | chuckyp: | alright back. can you handle booting to the cd and mounting "/" on your own? |
| [18:44:00] | scopeuk: | im there i think |
| [18:44:00] | scopeuk: | although ls isent showing anything |
| [18:44:00] | chuckyp: | okay well you have to mount /dev/hda |
| [18:45:00] | scopeuk: | ok i can do that |
| [18:45:00] | scopeuk: | ok ive mounted it but theres still ntohign there |
| [18:46:00] | chuckyp: | where did you mount it to? |
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| [18:47:00] | scopeuk: | /mnt/hda1 |
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| [18:47:00] | Kelerion: | NTL is field testing a 100Mb broadband connection! *excellent* |
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| [18:47:00] | scopeuk: | ok its jsut the shell playing up |
| [18:48:00] | scopeuk: | i mounted after i moved to the dir my bad |
| [18:48:00] | chuckyp: | k |
| [18:48:00] | chuckyp: | chroot /mnt/hda1 |
| [18:48:00] | scopeuk: | Kelerion it aint gonan hapen for a long time |
| [18:48:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [18:48:00] | Kelerion: | they're already offering 30Mb connections |
| [18:48:00] | scopeuk: | operation not permited |
| [18:48:00] | chuckyp: | hold up |
| [18:48:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [18:49:00] | scopeuk: | i dont need to to edit lilo.conf do i? |
| [18:49:00] | chuckyp: | okay here we go |
| [18:49:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [18:49:00] | chuckyp: | yes you do but i'll walk you threw it. |
| [18:49:00] | chuckyp: | boot to cd exit to shell |
| [18:50:00] | scopeuk: | so i need to reboot? |
| [18:50:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [18:50:00] | chuckyp: | not if you umount what you already did |
| [18:50:00] | scopeuk: | ok ill do that |
| [18:50:00] | scopeuk: | done |
| [18:50:00] | chuckyp: | mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 |
| [18:51:00] | scopeuk: | done |
| [18:51:00] | chuckyp: | then we need to chroot to that so we do the following |
| [18:51:00] | chuckyp: | chroot /mnt/hda1 /bin/bash |
| [18:51:00] | scopeuk: | done |
| [18:51:00] | chuckyp: | vi /etc/lilo.conf |
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| [18:52:00] | scopeuk: | done |
| [18:52:00] | chuckyp: | and what is the top line? |
| [18:52:00] | scopeuk: | - |
| [18:52:00] | scopeuk: | i must have mi typed the command |
| [18:52:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: are you familiar with vi? |
| [18:52:00] | scopeuk: | its comming up as new file |
| [18:53:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: have you used vi before? |
| [18:53:00] | scopeuk: | no i normaly use nano |
| [18:53:00] | chuckyp: | okay then nano /etc/lilo.conf |
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| [18:53:00] | scopeuk: | ok how do i quitvi |
| [18:53:00] | scopeuk: | its got me trapped |
| [18:53:00] | ** scopeuk knows hes a noob ** | |
| [18:54:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: first hit esc then type a : then q and hit enter |
| [18:54:00] | chuckyp: | did it exit? |
| [18:54:00] | scopeuk: | doesent seam to be working |
| [18:54:00] | scopeuk: | nope |
| [18:54:00] | scopeuk: | nothing hapens when i press esc |
| [18:54:00] | chuckyp: | okay try esc then : then q! and enter |
| [18:55:00] | scopeuk: | screen jsut flashes white |
| [18:55:00] | chuckyp: | yeah and then you hit : |
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| [18:55:00] | chuckyp: | colon |
| [18:55:00] | chuckyp: | and a little colon comes up at the bottom |
| [18:55:00] | scopeuk: | yep |
| [18:55:00] | chuckyp: | then you hit q and ! |
| [18:55:00] | chuckyp: | apostrophe |
| [18:55:00] | chuckyp: | then hit enter |
| [18:55:00] | scopeuk: | ok im out |
| [18:55:00] | scopeuk: | few |
| [18:55:00] | chuckyp: | and it should exit |
| [18:56:00] | scopeuk: | yes it has |
| [18:56:00] | chuckyp: | okay not type in "nano /etc/lilo.conf" no quotes of course |
| [18:56:00] | scopeuk: | now i have it up in nano |
| [18:56:00] | chuckyp: | okay what is your first two lines? |
| [18:56:00] | scopeuk: | vga=normal |
| [18:56:00] | xpis: | It seems the geniuses behind Cablecard 2.0 intend to support *only* Windows Vista running on |
| [18:56:00] | scopeuk: | #/etc/lilo ... |
| [18:57:00] | xpis: | "secure" DRM'd Dells |
| [18:57:00] | xpis: | (and other major OEMs) |
| [18:57:00] | chuckyp: | scopeuk: there is nothing above vga=normal? |
| [18:57:00] | scopeuk: | nope |
| [18:57:00] | chuckyp: | alright hold up a second I need to fire up my box. |
| [18:57:00] | scopeuk: | ok |
| [18:58:00] | xpis: | (in other words, it doesn't look like it will be possible to even boot linux on such boxes, let alone access the cablecard) |
| [18:58:00] | chuckyp: | nm not plugged in arghhh. |
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| [18:58:00] | chuckyp: | i'm sending you a private message if you get it. |
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| [19:04:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | hi, how do you enable TCP in MYSQL again |
| [19:05:00] | Kelerion: | I just uncommented the bind-address |
| [19:06:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Kelerion what do i bind it to? |
| [19:06:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | my local ip? |
| [19:07:00] | Kelerion: | I mean I put a # in front of it to comment it out |
| [19:07:00] | Kelerion: | so it ain't used |
| [19:07:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | oh its not in my my.cnf |
| [19:07:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | its /etc/my.cnf right |
| [19:07:00] | ShockValue: | hrm.. mythtv is working fine, but i cant seem to connect to mythweb.. i get: |
| [19:07:00] | ShockValue: | Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=15, backend=26) |
| [19:07:00] | ShockValue: | User Notice at /var/www/localhost/htdocs/includes/mythbackend.php, line 156: |
| [19:07:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | ShockValue: wrong version of mythweb |
| [19:07:00] | Kelerion: | you have: skip-networking ? |
| [19:08:00] | ShockValue: | but i just installed it like 10 minutes ago... |
| [19:08:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | ShockValue: ive hacked the mythbackend.php file and changed the version number to 26 |
| [19:08:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Kelerion: nop |
| [19:08:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | yet telnet does |
| [19:08:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | telnet 127.0.0.1 3306 |
| [19:08:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| [19:08:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused |
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| [19:08:00] | Kelerion: | is it a combined BE/FE? |
| [19:09:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | yep |
| [19:09:00] | ShockValue: | [ebuild R ] www-apps/mythweb-0.19 |
| [19:09:00] | ShockValue: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.19 |
| [19:09:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | im getting ready to put another slave on it though |
| [19:09:00] | Kelerion: | you could try: bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| [19:09:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Kelerion: im getting ready to put another slac eon it |
| [19:09:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | so i need lan |
| [19:09:00] | Kelerion: | well.. get it working first |
| [19:09:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | well myth fill weems to work |
| [19:10:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | filling right now.. |
| [19:10:00] | Kelerion: | well try telnetting to the boxes real ip |
| [19:10:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | # telnet 192.168.32.11 3306 |
| [19:10:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Trying 192.168.32.11... |
| [19:10:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | telnet: connect to address 192.168.32.11: Connection refused |
| [19:10:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| [19:11:00] | Kelerion: | how'd you know mythfill is working? sure it's not currently downloading data? |
| [19:11:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | hmm.. maybe.... |
| [19:11:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | give me a second ill tell you |
| [19:12:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | launchign front end |
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| [19:14:00] | Niklas_E: | anyone know if the 0.19supports mysql version 5? |
| [19:15:00] | Kelerion: | not sure.. but I think so |
| [19:15:00] | Arkkis: | Niklas_E, I think it will support 5, atleast it will have less bugs |
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| [19:15:00] | Niklas_E: | ok, great |
| [19:16:00] | Arkkis: | I'm running a pre version of it that's in gentoo portage and it seems to work better with mysql5 |
| [19:16:00] | Arkkis: | (compared to the daily crash, anything somewhat stable is better :) |
| [19:16:00] | Niklas_E: | well, I had to install mysql5 cause of openoffice and the mythtv stopped working |
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| [19:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys |
| [19:26:00] | Yellow-Snow: | if my remote dosen't have "learn" on it.. will it still work w/ pvr-150? |
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| [19:32:00] | UBL: | probably not |
| [19:32:00] | UBL: | i tried other remotes with my ir reciever for my pvr 250 and they dont work |
| [19:33:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: 100MB?! |
| [19:34:00] | Juski: | 100Mb even |
| [19:35:00] | Juski: | with 256k upload pipe I bet :-P |
| [19:36:00] | Juski: | UBL: they probably won't work out of the box – you'd need to use irrecord |
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| [19:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thats what i thought Juski |
| [19:37:00] | UBL: | yea, i've went thru the process to setup a remote and it doesnt recognize it |
| [19:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm |
| [19:37:00] | Juski: | UBL: maybe it's just the wrong protocol. I've used all kinds of remote zappers with my serial IR receiver |
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| [19:38:00] | Juski: | though I'm sure the tuner card IR hardware doesnt actually do anything with the IR data other than slop it into a register |
| [19:38:00] | Juski: | so it shouldn't necessarily care about the protocol unless the IR circuits are doing anything fancy |
| [19:40:00] | Chutt: | the tuner card ir hardware decodes a specific protocol of data |
| [19:41:00] | ** xris wonders if the pvr-150 remote (actually the microsoft remote) would... need time to try that out at some point. ** | |
| [19:42:00] | Juski: | ah... |
| [19:42:00] | Juski: | well you could still use a serial port receiver ;) |
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| [19:44:00] | xpis: | Juski: except for those of us with only one serial port |
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| [19:53:00] | rtsai: | anyone have a webcam with their myth machine? |
| [19:58:00] | UBL: | web cam for what? |
| [19:59:00] | Gumby`: | getting dirty with camwhores |
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| [20:03:00] | Niklas_E: | I get QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded is that casue I uses mysql5? |
| [20:04:00] | Juski: | xpis: what do you use the other serial port for? |
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| [20:06:00] | The_Login: | what's the backend server role ? |
| [20:07:00] | UBL: | to record and commercial detection and transcodeing if you want |
| [20:08:00] | Juski: | & stuff |
| [20:08:00] | The_Login: | thx then i din't need it if i use mythtv to watch divx only |
| [20:08:00] | Juski: | it basically runs the show |
| [20:08:00] | Juski: | you need a backend to host the DB |
| [20:08:00] | Juski: | and if watching divx is all you're gonna do, no need for mythtv |
| [20:08:00] | seme: | anyone else running.19 |
| [20:08:00] | seme: | I'm building now and my slow ass box is taking forever |
| [20:09:00] | The_Login: | i always got meassage couldn't connect to backend |
| [20:10:00] | Niklas_E: | The_Login: tried to start mythbackend? |
| [20:10:00] | The_Login: | wich command |
| [20:10:00] | Niklas_E: | the_login: "mythbackend" |
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| [20:12:00] | The_Login: | i got failed to bind or lisen to the socket |
| [20:12:00] | The_Login: | failed to bind port 6543 |
| [20:14:00] | alex777: | I am watching some divx movies off a samba share |
| [20:14:00] | alex777: | so when I do that, the movie starts in mplayer |
| [20:14:00] | alex777: | but I can't use the remote to get out of mplayer ? |
| [20:15:00] | alex777: | I'm using the remote from my PVR250 |
| [20:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | do you have mplayer set up to use lirc? |
| [20:15:00] | alex777: | I can use the volume and the other stuff |
| [20:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | do you have something bound to exit? |
| [20:15:00] | alex777: | I installed mythtv using knoppmyth |
| [20:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and are you using irexec or native bindings? |
| [20:15:00] | alex777: | I have something bound for quit and something for Esc |
| [20:16:00] | Twiggy: | Hey I just tossed a second sound card and tuner card into my backend, and it works fine except that when I'm watching on two frontends one frontend is slightly choppy, would some more RAM give it the juice to fixthat or could it be something else? |
| [20:16:00] | alex777: | Kleptophobiac I guess it's using native bindings because irexec is not running in the background |
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| [20:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [20:19:00] | alex777: | and I changed stuff in the .lircrc file |
| [20:19:00] | alex777: | but no success |
| [20:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does irw show that something has been pressed when you press the button? |
| [20:20:00] | alex777: | the remote works |
| [20:20:00] | alex777: | the same buttons work in mythtv |
| [20:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | are you sure that your exit binding is correct? |
| [20:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | prog = mplayer |
| [20:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | button = exit |
| [20:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | config = quit |
| [20:21:00] | alex777: | begin |
| [20:21:00] | alex777: | prog = mplayer |
| [20:21:00] | alex777: | button = Back/Exit |
| [20:21:00] | alex777: | config = Esc |
| [20:21:00] | alex777: | # button = BACK |
| [20:21:00] | alex777: | # config = quit |
| [20:21:00] | alex777: | end |
| [20:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you might try setting config to quit |
| [20:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | since config makes it emulate a button rather than an action |
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| [20:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | err, Esc makes it emulate the keystroke |
| [20:22:00] | alex777: | yea |
| [20:23:00] | alex777: | how do I apply the new lirc file now ? |
| [20:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | save the new one |
| [20:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | where the old one was |
| [20:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and restart mplayer |
| [20:23:00] | alex777: | that's it ? |
| [20:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah |
| [20:23:00] | alex777: | no need to restart lircd ? |
| [20:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | nope |
| [20:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you need to restart lircd if you change /etc/lircd.conf |
| [20:24:00] | alex777: | got it |
| [20:24:00] | alex777: | it was supposed to be config = quit |
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| [20:24:00] | alex777: | but the button name was previously wrong, how it came during install it was called BACK |
| [20:24:00] | alex777: | instead of Back/Exit |
| [20:24:00] | alex777: | thanks Kleptophobiac |
| [20:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | works? |
| [20:25:00] | alex777: | yeppers |
| [20:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh good |
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| [20:26:00] | alex777: | now to find an application that'll run my .img and .iso images :) |
| [20:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I thought mplayer could handle iso's... |
| [20:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | at least if you mount them |
| [20:27:00] | alex777: | another quick (stupid) question: how do you change visualizations in mythmusic ? :) |
| [20:27:00] | alex777: | Kleptophobiac yea, if I mount them, but I want it to kinda do it without any user interaction, so maybe a script that also mounts the iso before playing it |
| [20:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | try pressing 4, 5, and 6 |
| [20:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you can write a bash script launcher |
| [20:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that determines if it's an ISO |
| [20:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and then have mythvideo call that script instead of mplayer |
| [20:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | the script would call mplayer based on its analysis of the file |
| [20:28:00] | alex777: | I could just do it by extension |
| [20:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | indeed |
| [20:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's legit |
| [20:30:00] | alex777: | now another question about mythvideo |
| [20:30:00] | alex777: | can I have it organize files by folder structure |
| [20:31:00] | alex777: | it seems that it just takes all the files in all the subfolders |
| [20:31:00] | alex777: | kinda hard to keep anything organized |
| [20:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah |
| [20:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | set it to file browser view |
| [20:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it then preserves directory structure |
| [20:32:00] | alex777: | where do I do that from ? |
| [20:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | setup -> media -> video |
| [20:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | somewhere in there |
| [20:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | can't remember specifically |
| [20:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that changes the default menu |
| [20:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you can use the menu button and change it "on the fly" but the setting doesn't stick as default |
| [20:34:00] | alex777: | ah, I see what you mean, that works |
| [20:34:00] | alex777: | thanks |
| [20:34:00] | scopeuk: | anyone considere riging a gp2x as a frontend? |
| [20:34:00] | alex777: | even gallery view has a folder view |
| [20:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [20:34:00] | alex777: | and another question now |
| [20:35:00] | alex777: | in live tv |
| [20:35:00] | ** Kleptophobiac doesn't use live tv ** | |
| [20:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but feel free to ask |
| [20:35:00] | alex777: | when in browsing through the guide |
| [20:35:00] | alex777: | and I find a channel, how do I make it switch to that channel ? |
| [20:35:00] | alex777: | my instict was to press OK (return), but it doesn't do it |
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| [20:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it can |
| [20:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but that's a behavior option set from within the depths of the setup pages |
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| [20:36:00] | alex777: | I figured heh |
| [20:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | actually, the setup pages are my least favorite part of myth right now |
| [20:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | just... ugly |
| [20:37:00] | alex777: | I think I found it |
| [20:37:00] | alex777: | and I need to find out why it takes 2–3 seconds to switch channels |
| [20:37:00] | alex777: | it's really slow |
| [20:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's normal |
| [20:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it has to build up a buffer to hard disk before sending out video |
| [20:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | on top of normal channel switching time of a tuner card (which is considerably longer than a TV in the first place) |
| [20:38:00] | alex777: | true |
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| [20:49:00] | Ubongo: | hi all |
| [20:49:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody using mythmusic w/visualizations? |
| [20:49:00] | Ubongo: | eiggirC....r u here? |
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| [20:55:00] | cryos_laptop: | Anyone know about the mtd? It isn't transcoding my stuff, but it seems to be running. |
| [20:56:00] | cryos_laptop: | Is there something I am missing? |
| [20:57:00] | I8usc: | cryos_laptop: look at /var/lib/mythdvd/mtd.log ? |
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| [20:59:00] | cryos_laptop: | Nothing much in there, job finished succesfully: job dvd 1 1 0 0 -1 /home/mythtv/videos/SMALLVILLE_SEASON3_T5_D4 and I have a 6 GB vob file. |
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| [21:02:00] | I8usc: | did it tell you the transcode command line options it used? sometimes transcode spits |
| [21:02:00] | [Elvis]: | hello people...I have a question, when I try to run mythfrontend I suddenly get a segmentation error after: registering internal as a media playback plugin |
| [21:02:00] | I8usc: | out errors that mtd.log does't show. |
| [21:04:00] | cryos_laptop: | It doesn't seem to be calling transcode – have I missed something obvious. |
| [21:06:00] | I8usc: | did you choose "perfect"? |
| [21:06:00] | cryos_laptop: | Yes – is that where I screwed up? |
| [21:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | are there any plans to absorb mythstreamtv into standard mythweb? |
| [21:08:00] | I8usc: | transcoding seems to only happen if you select a compression level, like "good" or "excellent". |
| [21:08:00] | cryos_laptop: | Right – I will give it another go. |
| [21:08:00] | cryos_laptop: | Thanks for tips. |
| [21:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I honestly like using windows w/ autogk and dvd decrypter for this job. Nothing in the linux world is quite so... easy? |
| [21:09:00] | I8usc: | no prob |
| [21:10:00] | [Elvis]: | anyone here know something about segmentation faults? |
| [21:11:00] | scopeuk: | normaly means somethigns broke |
| [21:11:00] | scopeuk: | </something> |
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| [21:13:00] | briand: | specifically, it normally means that a program has tried to access a register or section of memory not assigned to it and/or protected from it by the operating system or other software that has reserved it. |
| [21:13:00] | briand: | ...in other words, "something's broken" :) |
| [21:14:00] | The_Login: | got i problem in mythtv menu i miss some caratere because the font are bigger |
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| [21:18:00] | Juski: | The_Login: check for missing fonts |
| [21:19:00] | The_Login: | and how ? |
| [21:19:00] | Juski: | if a font is missing mythtv will substitute one for you – and if said font is too big, some characters will be clipped from the text area |
| [21:20:00] | Juski: | The_Login: please use some initiative ;-) |
| [21:20:00] | The_Login: | there is something strange |
| [21:21:00] | The_Login: | when i run mytfronted on another user session in terminal window everything is ok |
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| [21:21:00] | The_Login: | but when i log into the mythtv user session the fonts are biger |
| [21:22:00] | The_Login: | nb: mythtv user session has a .xsession file |
| [21:22:00] | cryos_laptop: | I8usc: I think that has done the trick – it is transcoding it now. Thanks :) |
| [21:22:00] | The_Login: | which run mythfronted automaticlly on login |
| [21:23:00] | The_Login: | Juski any idea ? |
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| [21:28:00] | Gumby`: | The_Login: use gdm for your login manager and choose to automagically login the user you want mythtv to run as. use fluxbox as your WM and in that users .fluxbox/startup script add exec mythfrontend & |
| [21:29:00] | Gumby`: | works great for me |
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| [21:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I use kdm, but it's the same difference – it does work great |
| [21:29:00] | Gumby`: | sorry, not exec mythfrontend &... just mythfrontend & |
| [21:30:00] | Gumby`: | but make sure its before exec /usr/bin/fluxbox line |
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| [21:36:00] | [Elvis]: | hello, can anyone help me..I get a segmentatin fault when running mythfrontend] |
| [21:36:00] | mofu: | anyone make anything of this: http://pastebin.com/551733 |
| [21:37:00] | mofu: | bombed out of LiveTV when it should have switch to Record |
| [21:37:00] | mofu: | [Elvis]: all the time?? |
| [21:37:00] | mofu: | [Elvis]: the backend log say anything of value?? |
| [21:38:00] | mofu: | [Elvis]: I've gotten a couple Segmentation Faults today . . . on my HD development box w/ 0.19 |
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| [21:39:00] | Agrajag-: | my mythweb is telling me "this showing was recorded" for shows that are in the future? and shows that i don't have recording schedules for (bob the builder) ??? |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: have you recorded it before? |
| [21:40:00] | mofu: | Agrajag-: is time and date set correct on your system?? |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | there's a new feature that shows which shows you've recorded in the past. |
| [21:40:00] | Agrajag-: | yes, both are correct, and im pretty sure i've never recorded bob the builder, heh |
| [21:41:00] | Agrajag-: | i guess that must be it though |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: then something f'd and set the seriesid/whatever for one of your recorded shows incorrectly |
| [21:41:00] | Agrajag-: | i probably recorded it when testing or something |
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| [21:41:00] | [Elvis]: | I Get a segmentation error after registering internal as a media playback plugin |
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| [21:42:00] | akira: | mythtv can't create one it's tables cause one of the column names is a SQL key word, does anybody know a fix for this? |
| [21:43:00] | mofu: | akira: MySQL 5?? |
| [21:43:00] | [Elvis]: | I have no idea how to solve this |
| [21:43:00] | akira: | "You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'repeat bool, ..." |
| [21:43:00] | mofu: | akira: v4 or v5 ?? |
| [21:43:00] | akira: | it during the create of temp table for channel listing retrieval. has anybody heard of this |
| [21:43:00] | akira: | v5 |
| [21:43:00] | [Elvis]: | ]can anyone help me with this segmtentaion error? |
| [21:44:00] | Agrajag-: | [Elvis]: have you recently upgraded? |
| [21:44:00] | mofu: | MySQL v5 breaks all sorts of things . . . rollback to v4 |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | akira: still using .18? |
| [21:44:00] | akira: | yea, 18.1 |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | upgrade to .19 |
| [21:44:00] | [Elvis]: | Agrajag I only edited the kernel to add sound supoort |
| [21:44:00] | [Elvis]: | support |
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| [21:44:00] | Agrajag-: | [Elvis]: no i mean upgraded mythtv |
| [21:44:00] | mofu: | 0.19 is compatible w MySQL v5?? |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | mofu: months ago |
| [21:45:00] | mofu: | good to now |
| [21:45:00] | [Elvis]: | no agrajag |
| [21:45:00] | mofu: | know |
| [21:45:00] | [Elvis]: | hmm I don't get this weird shit |
| [21:46:00] | Agrajag-: | [Elvis]: how did you install mythtv? |
| [21:46:00] | [Elvis]: | gentoo |
| [21:46:00] | [Elvis]: | emerge mythtv |
| [21:46:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea then |
| [21:46:00] | [Elvis]: | and it did work |
| [21:46:00] | mofu: | anyone using QAM256 w/ Cable?? |
| [21:46:00] | [Elvis]: | until I changed something on .xinitrc or somethign I think |
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| [21:47:00] | [Elvis]: | let's see what happends when I remove xorg.conf |
| [21:48:00] | [Elvis]: | agrajag when I remove xorg.conf it works again.. |
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| [21:51:00] | Arkkis: | how can I use myth to listen streams? |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | Arkkis: mythstream |
| [21:52:00] | Arkkis: | darn, not in gentoo portahe |
| [21:52:00] | Arkkis: | *portage |
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| [21:53:00] | Ubongo: | I have myth kinda' working....however when I try to watch "Live TV" it dies after a few seconds....what can I do to fix this? |
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| [21:56:00] | beavis: | any output in the frontend console? |
| [21:56:00] | benc-: | updated to 0.19 and now mythmusic garbles all mp3s, but aac still works.. prints a torrent of "Using resampler, From 44100 to 43512" and "opening audio device" lines while trying to play mp3 but only one set on aac, so seems related. any suggestions on how to fix this? |
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| [21:58:00] | squish102: | im compiling .19 on knoppmyth and left out this step: qmake mythtv.pro : i'm a noob so is that bad? |
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| [22:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys |
| [22:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | if i can see in the shell when i type irw that my remote responds |
| [22:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i can get it to work right? |
| [22:00:00] | v_thunder: | hey everyone – I have a very curious problem... |
| [22:01:00] | v_thunder: | commercial skipping is not working from one of my frontends |
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| [22:01:00] | v_thunder: | it says 'Not Flagged' |
| [22:01:00] | v_thunder: | I can't figure why, it's only this one machine that does it |
| [22:01:00] | v_thunder: | s/figure/figure out/ |
| [22:02:00] | v_thunder: | I even tried going into the db and deleting all the rows in the settings table for that host |
| [22:02:00] | simcop2387: | squish102: it probably won't finish building but shouldn't be too bad |
| [22:02:00] | simcop2387: | Yellow-Snow: yep |
| [22:03:00] | v_thunder: | no ideas? |
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| [22:04:00] | Ubongo: | beavis: I get static on the screen and I get sound....but it stops playing after a few seconds |
| [22:05:00] | Yellow-Snow: | Save this file in ~/.mythtv/lircrc, and make a symlink with ~/.lircrc |
| [22:05:00] | Yellow-Snow: | how do i do that? |
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| [22:07:00] | isamuel: | ln -s ~/.mythtv/lircrc ~/.lircrc |
| [22:07:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thanks! |
| [22:07:00] | isamuel: | no prob. |
| [22:08:00] | beavis: | Ubongo: try starting the frontend from the console and put the output on pastebin.com |
| [22:09:00] | Ubongo: | ok |
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| [22:11:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. when i put this file on my linux box |
| [22:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | it addes ^M to it |
| [22:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | why? |
| [22:12:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ^M to like the end of every line |
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| [22:12:00] | Cromz: | cause your editing it on a windows machine. |
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| [22:12:00] | [Elvis]: | what can I do about channel(/dev/v4l/video0): checkchannel failed, please verify channel "3" |
| [22:12:00] | simcop2387: | dos and *nix use different things to mark the end of the line, dos uses \r\n and unix uses just \n |
| [22:12:00] | Ubongo: | beavis: here goes.....http://pastebin.ca/41326 |
| [22:13:00] | epoch: | Yellow-Snow: if you're FTPing it, use text mode, not binary mode |
| [22:13:00] | jasta: | i want to buy one of those cool neon beer signs for my game room |
| [22:13:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im doing wget |
| [22:13:00] | jasta: | but apparently they're like $300 :( |
| [22:13:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? |
| [22:13:00] | jasta: | that blows |
| [22:13:00] | simcop2387: | jasta: i want a neon penguin |
| [22:13:00] | jasta: | http://www.neonsign.com/dealers/signform.html . . . shamrockneon |
| [22:13:00] | jasta: | i wanted that one |
| [22:13:00] | simcop2387: | dang |
| [22:13:00] | [Elvis]: | ah problem found |
| [22:13:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [22:14:00] | Gumby`: | anyone use or have mythstrea installed? Ive followed the howto, but I dont see any difference in mythweb |
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| [22:14:00] | Gumby`: | mythstream that is |
| [22:14:00] | jasta: | simcop2387: http://www.jackdanielsstore.com/product.asp?specific=jnnrcml4 |
| [22:14:00] | jasta: | i also want that :) |
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| [22:15:00] | simcop2387: | :)\ |
| [22:15:00] | jasta: | im gonna buy a dart board and stuff too. |
| [22:15:00] | jasta: | already have a pool table and a mythtv box :) |
| [22:15:00] | jasta: | and an open wetbar :) |
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| [22:25:00] | xpis: | Is anyone using serial port expansion cards with IR blasters/receivers? (are there any that work for non-RS232 communication) |
| [22:25:00] | Juski: | you know, I think JD merchandise is mostly a waste of money that'd be better spent on Jack Daniel's ;-) |
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| [22:28:00] | DreadPirateBob: | I get an error when trying to run mythtv-setup: Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes when creating the jump points table. Is there a workaround? |
| [22:29:00] | ** DreadPirateBob downloads the 0.19 release to see if it fixes it. ** | |
| [22:30:00] | jasta: | i need to buy a remote control for my myth box |
| [22:30:00] | Twiggy: | Hey is there a way to turn off the automatic black screen that pops up when the myth menu sits idle? |
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| [22:31:00] | jasta: | Twiggy: turn off DPMS in the X config. |
| [22:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | OMG why wont my remote work |
| [22:31:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | hi i have a BTTV tuner card. it was workign fine but now i lost sound comepltey.. anyu one have any idea |
| [22:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | !@)#*! |
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| [22:32:00] | andrew_: | hey guys- i made a theme but i dont know how to get it to work in myth |
| [22:32:00] | andrew_: | anybody can help me out here? |
| [22:32:00] | beavis: | Ubongo: search the gossamer-threads, there was a thread about this issue |
| [22:32:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | TV Wonder tuner card. it was workign fine but now i lost sound comepltey.. anyu one have any idea |
| [22:33:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | hmmm... |
| [22:33:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | how do u mute in mythtv? |
| [22:34:00] | mick: | Twiggy, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc22.4 |
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| [22:35:00] | dat: | I'm running into problems getting my tvtuner to capture correctly. When I cat /dev/video0 > tmp.mpg, it always creates a zero-length file |
| [22:36:00] | Twiggy: | hmm weird, it's turned off already |
| [22:37:00] | dat: | i also noticed that if i rmmod ivtv, then modprobe ivtv, it says "FATAL: Module saa7115 not found." |
| [22:37:00] | dat: | but, if i lsmod, ivtv shows up |
| [22:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody have mythmusic working with fftw? |
| [22:37:00] | dat: | ivtv-detect detects the pvr250 and correctly shows it as /dev/video0 |
| [22:38:00] | dat: | any ideas? |
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| [22:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wow i have reformated my hd 7 times already.. gd i fucking suck w/ linux |
| [22:40:00] | dat: | am i missing a kernel option maybe? |
| [22:44:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | any one have any idea why by BTTV card keeps loosing sound. |
| [22:44:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | i have it in XAWV but when i go to myth it disapears.. even if i unmute the channle |
| [22:45:00] | dat: | nm.. i found the missing kernel option |
| [22:45:00] | dat: | thanks anyway |
| [22:45:00] | Agrajag-: | darkdrgnk2k: you have to mute it and set it to capture |
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| [22:45:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Agrajag-: yes i know |
| [22:45:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Agrajag-: and i had nothing |
| [22:46:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Agrajag-: so i turned the channle on anyway.. but i dont hear anything |
| [22:46:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Agrajag-: normaly you would get the real-time audio |
| [22:46:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | Agrajag-: but XAWTV works fine after i hit UNMUTE |
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| [22:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | alright, I have libfftw3f_threads in /usr/lib |
| [22:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but the configure for mythplugins refuses to acknowledge it |
| [22:47:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | any one know what xawtv does to UNMUDE |
| [22:49:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | anyone? |
| [22:49:00] | xpis: | Does anyone know where to get a PCI to serial card in the simplist sense, so it will work with lirc? (not one with multiple ports /w shared irq) |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | xpis: umm, why bother taking up 1 pci slot for a serial port? |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | use a usb to serial adapter |
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| [22:51:00] | xpis: | mchou: that won't give it an interrupt... |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | xpis: wont give what an interrupt? |
| [22:52:00] | xpis: | mchou: the serial port |
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| [22:52:00] | mchou: | xpis: why do you need a dedicated interrupt? |
| [22:53:00] | xpis: | mchou: for an ir blaster/receiver |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | xpis: usbuirt works, dunno what your problem is |
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| [22:54:00] | mofu: | xpis: how about this? --initrd |
| [22:55:00] | mofu: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815124010 |
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| [22:55:00] | mofu: | opps, |
| [22:55:00] | mofu: | cheny "accidently" shot someone?? |
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| [22:56:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | is there a way to MUC myth tv?> |
| [22:56:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mute myth tv |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | "MUC" ? What's that ? |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | f9 |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | and then go read keys.txt :) |
| [22:57:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | damit doesnt work |
| [22:57:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | i lost sound on my BTTV and i cant get it back |
| [22:57:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | the CARD itself isent making any sound! |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | bad mixer settings? |
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| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | linein muted ? |
| [22:58:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | GreyFoxx: i unmuded everythign |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | well, I guess that's another way to mute :) |
| [22:58:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | if i use XAWTV i get no sound |
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| [22:58:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | then when i hit MUTE/UNMUTE i hear it |
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| [22:58:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | its likethe CARD is not producing any sound.. doesnt even HIT the mixer |
| [22:58:00] | xpis: | mofu: that won't work.. it would have to be a "dumb" controller card. Literally, one that would convert a PCI port into a serial port. |
| [22:59:00] | Cardoe: | cryos_laptop: around? |
| [22:59:00] | mofu: | xpis: no such thing, serial port = 16550 |
| [22:59:00] | cryos_laptop: | Cardoe: Just – nearly my bed time ;) |
| [22:59:00] | xpis: | mchou: I would much rather use $5 in radioshack components |
| [22:59:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | GreyFoxx: any idea whats wrong |
| [22:59:00] | Cardoe: | cryos_laptop: alright. |
| [22:59:00] | Cardoe: | how'd it all work out for you? |
| [23:00:00] | cryos_laptop: | Cardoe: The new MythTV ebuild seems to be working great, some really nice improvements in there too. |
| [23:00:00] | mchou: | xpis: usbuirt is made of ratshack components |
| [23:00:00] | Cardoe: | cryos_laptop: cool. |
| [23:00:00] | xpis: | mchou: is there a schematic? |
| [23:00:00] | cryos_laptop: | The TV tuner is great, wish I had it before! |
| [23:00:00] | mchou: | xpis: of course there are schematics |
| [23:00:00] | cryos_laptop: | I have ripping and transcoding working now too I think. |
| [23:00:00] | xpis: | mchou: one available for free download? |
| [23:01:00] | mchou: | xpis: dude, get the hint already? Google is your friend |
| [23:01:00] | cryos_laptop: | I still need to try connecting remotely though, dang said he was having issues connecting frontend to a backen d on a different box. I haven't tried that yet. |
| [23:01:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | any one know why my sounds is missing? |
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| [23:01:00] | xpis: | mchou: I did google it, and the devices are sold for $50 |
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| [23:02:00] | mchou: | xpis: that's one guy selling a "pre-fab" version |
| [23:02:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | any one at all |
| [23:02:00] | mchou: | one guy doesnt mean free/libre schematic does not exist |
| [23:02:00] | dat: | ok, running into a weird problem now. im able to get video / audio output if i manually cat from /dev/video0 |
| [23:03:00] | Ubongo: | thanks beavis I will search gossamer-threads |
| [23:03:00] | dat: | but.. if i use mythtv, i get just video, no sound |
| [23:03:00] | mofu: | darkdrgnk2k: what sound module are you using for the TV card? OSS or ALSA? |
| [23:03:00] | cryos_laptop: | You probably have to switch to use alsa dat |
| [23:03:00] | dat: | switch where? in mythtv? |
| [23:03:00] | cryos_laptop: | Or at least that is what I had to do to get sound. |
| [23:03:00] | dat: | i didn't see it in the setup if so |
| [23:03:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: OSS emulaton |
| [23:03:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: but like i asid works perfec in XAWTV, |
| [23:04:00] | cryos_laptop: | It is in mythtv under sound output somewhere, it is in the wiki I believe. |
| [23:04:00] | cryos_laptop: | Where is says /dev/dsp or whatever it was. |
| [23:04:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: and nothign comes out of the linein port dyring mythtv |
| [23:04:00] | mofu: | darkdrgnk2k: using a patch cable?? |
| [23:04:00] | dat: | ahh.. i see it now |
| [23:04:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: ye |
| [23:04:00] | dat: | thanks, i'll play around with it |
| [23:04:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: CD actually |
| [23:04:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: but nothign comes out of theCD channel when myth starts |
| [23:04:00] | cryos_laptop: | Look on the wiki dat – it tells you some good settings for it. |
| [23:04:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: and it was working like before last reboot |
| [23:05:00] | cryos_laptop: | It is alsa: something... |
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| [23:05:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | alsa:default |
| [23:05:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | cryos_laptop: alsa:default |
| [23:05:00] | cryos_laptop: | Cardoe: I think MythTV looks good on amd64 though – all seems to be working well here and the new release is great :) |
| [23:05:00] | mofu: | glad I'm not in the N.E. US . . . nasty snow storm |
| [23:06:00] | dat: | ok.. thanks cryos_laptop ! |
| [23:06:00] | cryos_laptop: | darkdrgnk2k: That is the one – couldn't remember. |
| [23:06:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: any ideas? |
| [23:06:00] | mofu: | darkdrgnk2k: sorry, no |
| [23:06:00] | ** cryos_laptop is off to get some sleep... ** | |
| [23:06:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: odd part is that when i launch XAWTV |
| [23:06:00] | mofu: | bttv cards suck ass |
| [23:06:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: i first have to hit MUTE UNMUTE |
| [23:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does mythmusic use single precision or double precision fourier transforms? |
| [23:06:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | twice! |
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| [23:07:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: its my sdecondary tuner! |
| [23:07:00] | Chrismyth: | evening all |
| [23:07:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mofu: its nice to havce 2 |
| [23:07:00] | mchou: | whois Kleptophobiac |
| [23:07:00] | mofu: | mchou: add a forward slash |
| [23:07:00] | mchou: | mofu: haha |
| [23:08:00] | Cardoe: | cryos_laptop: great |
| [23:08:00] | xpis: | I think for my IR receiver, I'm going to build a schematic to go into my (bad) onboard soundcard. Might as well make use of that. Then, my IR blaster will be the single serial port, and my UPS will be a USB-Serial adapter. |
| [23:10:00] | mchou: | xpis: you're making a simple device WAY more complicated than it needs to be |
| [23:10:00] | mofu: | xpis: is your motherboard so new it is missing regular DB9 serial ports?? |
| [23:11:00] | mchou: | I've never seen a mobo w/o serial ports (or didnt have serial port headers) |
| [23:11:00] | Chrismyth: | looking for some assistance with my myth box, when I record on the playback about every 10–15 seconds the video and audio glitch like they are resyncing the streams |
| [23:11:00] | xpis: | mchou: Mine is a Nforce3 chipset motherboard. It has one serial port. |
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| [23:11:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mchou: sure you have.. look at any laptop! |
| [23:11:00] | nanoITX: | #join #unichrome |
| [23:11:00] | nanoITX: | #join #xine |
| [23:11:00] | The_Login: | anyone have a tutorial how to install dvb driver on ubuntu |
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| [23:12:00] | mchou: | darkdrgnk2k: dude, laptops have internal pads for serial port |
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| [23:12:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mchou: yes but you dont SEEE them :-P |
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| [23:13:00] | lotia: | anyone here having problems with a slow program guide after updating to 0.19? |
| [23:13:00] | xpis: | lotia: how slow? |
| [23:13:00] | mchou: | you dont see see headers on desktop mobos either if you're looking outside the case, either |
| [23:13:00] | lotia: | slower than 0.18.1? |
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| [23:14:00] | darkdrgnk2k: | mchou: well there you go.. evne more mobos that you dont see serials on :-P |
| [23:14:00] | xpis: | lotia: Is it slow to be a bug, or just not as fast as 0.18.1? |
| [23:15:00] | mofu: | The_Login: HD3000 or Air2PC?? |
| [23:15:00] | lotia: | xpis: well looking at the logs i've learned that its looking for the channel icons in the wrong place? anyone know how i can reload channel icons? |
| [23:15:00] | mchou: | lotia: modify the db? |
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| [23:16:00] | lotia: | mchou: where in db? |
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| [23:16:00] | mchou: | lotia: to point to the correct location, that is.... |
| [23:16:00] | xpis: | lotia: It would be easier to just move your icons to the location that you have in your database. |
| [23:16:00] | xpis: | lotia: unless you are handy with sql. |
| [23:16:00] | lotia: | xpis: reasonably handy |
| [23:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | guys why is it added ^M again? and how do i get rid of it? |
| [23:17:00] | mchou: | lotia: probably the channels tbl |
| [23:17:00] | xpis: | lotia: then search it for the directory it is looking for. Then, modify the setting(s). There may be a path for each icon. |
| [23:18:00] | mofu: | The_Login: HD3000 or Air2PC?? |
| [23:18:00] | The_Login: | mofu a pinnacle budget |
| [23:19:00] | mofu: | The_Login: is that known to work w/ Linux DVB drivers?? |
| [23:19:00] | mofu: | and Myth? |
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| [23:20:00] | The_Login: | mofu with linux yes i tried it on vdr |
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| [23:20:00] | mofu: | so its already working?? |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | The_Login: where do you live? |
| [23:20:00] | The_Login: | mchou morocco |
| [23:21:00] | mchou: | mofu: so there :) |
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| [23:21:00] | mchou: | The_Login: is the pinnacle a dvb card? |
| [23:21:00] | mchou: | The_Login: afaik pinnacle is a bttv card |
| [23:21:00] | mofu: | mchou: ?? |
| [23:21:00] | The_Login: | mchou yes |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | mofu: morrocco wouldnt be using ATSC |
| [23:22:00] | mofu: | I never mentioned ATSC . . . . |
| [23:22:00] | mofu: | I mentioned two ATSC cards . . . . |
| [23:23:00] | mchou: | mofu: which is why that's the wrong question :) |
| [23:23:00] | mchou: | [15:18:03] <mofu> The_Login: HD3000 or Air2PC?? |
| [23:23:00] | mofu: | I assume he knows what card he has, sounds like he has the card working in Linux, just not in Myth |
| [23:23:00] | mchou: | mofu: so why did you ask the question if he knew? |
| [23:24:00] | mofu: | at that point he hadn't mentioned what type of card, SORRY! |
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| [23:25:00] | mchou: | The_Login: ok, looks like pinnacle does have dvb cards |
| [23:25:00] | The_Login: | mchou yes |
| [23:25:00] | The_Login: | mchou i tried on live cd it work |
| [23:25:00] | The_Login: | the kanotix live cd |
| [23:25:00] | mchou: | The_Login: and if it's working with vdr, that means the dvb drivers are working already |
| [23:26:00] | The_Login: | mchou i said a live cd |
| [23:26:00] | The_Login: | now i'm on ubuntu |
| [23:26:00] | mofu: | The_Login: so do you have the same or better kernel version installed?? |
| [23:26:00] | The_Login: | and i wanna make it work using the dvb driver |
| [23:26:00] | mofu: | same as LiveCD? |
| [23:26:00] | mchou: | The_Login: you either can upgrade the kernel or patch the dvb drivers.... |
| [23:26:00] | Chrismyth: | looking for some assistance with my myth box, when I record on the playback about every 10–15 seconds the video and audio glitch like they are resyncing the streams |
| [23:27:00] | The_Login: | on ubuntu i got 2.6.12–9 |
| [23:27:00] | mchou: | The_Login: source, that is |
| [23:27:00] | mofu: | The_Login: The BreezyBadger kernel is fairly up to date, |
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| [23:27:00] | The_Login: | ls |
| [23:27:00] | The_Login: | sorry |
| [23:27:00] | fdsd: | hey guys, Congrats on the 0.19 |
| [23:28:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. why when i wget a file it adds ^M to the file? i xedit it and it adds ^M if i use nano i dont see it.. why? |
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| [23:29:00] | [Elvis]: | anyone here using ivtv? |
| [23:29:00] | [Elvis]: | sorry nvtv |
| [23:29:00] | [Elvis]: | :P |
| [23:30:00] | fdsd: | has anyone tried upgrading from 0.18 to 0.19 does the database merge over ok? |
| [23:30:00] | xpis: | fdsd: yes, it works fine. |
| [23:30:00] | xpis: | fdsd: back up first, though |
| [23:31:00] | fdsd: | yea I make a database dump every hour |
| [23:31:00] | lotia: | thanks folks |
| [23:31:00] | fdsd: | cron is my friend |
| [23:31:00] | xpis: | fdsd: lol, that's a bit excessive... but whatever works for you. |
| [23:31:00] | lotia: | also anyone having problems with xvmc? |
| [23:31:00] | fdsd: | xpis, well I write to it every 5 min |
| [23:31:00] | xpis: | fdsd: manually? |
| [23:32:00] | fdsd: | xpis, no, with my other database's for my webserver |
| [23:32:00] | xpis: | oh |
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| [23:32:00] | fdsd: | I am waiting for ebuilds for mythtv |
| [23:32:00] | fdsd: | 0.19 |
| [23:32:00] | fdsd: | so I can upgrade |
| [23:33:00] | lotia: | fdsd: they exist |
| [23:33:00] | The_Login: | does the kernel header is the kernel source file ? |
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| [23:33:00] | lotia: | fdsd: they are masked using keyword and package.mask |
| [23:34:00] | fdsd: | r they? |
| [23:34:00] | fdsd: | cool |
| [23:34:00] | lotia: | fdsd: yeah, i just got done installing |
| [23:34:00] | mofu: | The_Login: in many cases you can compile against the correct version of kernel headers instead of having the entire source |
| [23:35:00] | mofu: | make sense? |
| [23:35:00] | [Elvis]: | I can't get nvtv to start when I put it in my .xinitrc anyone has a clue why? |
| [23:35:00] | fdsd: | lotia, need to do anythign special? |
| [23:35:00] | [Elvis]: | it works perfectly fine when I start it in x itself |
| [23:36:00] | lotia: | fdsd: do you know how to unmask stuff by putting it in /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| [23:36:00] | lotia: | fdsd: you also need to put stuff in /etc/portage/package.unmask |
| [23:36:00] | lotia: | do you need to know what to put in? |
| [23:36:00] | The_Login: | [Elvis] http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/19/31/ |
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| [23:37:00] | lotia: | folks any difference between the quality of xvmc and ffmpeg mpeg2 decoders? |
| [23:39:00] | mofu: | most think the software decoders do a slightly better job, assuming you have the HP to keep up |
| [23:40:00] | lotia: | mofu: p4 3.2? will that do the job? |
| [23:40:00] | fdsd: | emerging now |
| [23:40:00] | mofu: | lotia: err, yeah, maybe ;-) |
| [23:41:00] | lotia: | fdsd: did you check to make sure that its installing 0.19? |
| [23:41:00] | mofu: | lotia: I'm using 2.8 Cel-D |
| [23:41:00] | mofu: | works ok with HD |
| [23:41:00] | fdsd: | it is |
| [23:41:00] | lotia: | mofu: will it have any impact on the backend stuff, sometimes i'm doing 4 sd records at once? |
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| [23:42:00] | mofu: | lotia: I've only run HD on single card develepment boxes, not sure, your extra speed and HT will definetely help |
| [23:43:00] | mofu: | this is a combo front/back?? |
| [23:43:00] | lotia: | also what about ffmpeg vs libmpeg2, which one should i use |
| [23:43:00] | lotia: | mofu: yes it is |
| [23:43:00] | mofu: | lotia: I prefer libmpeg2, slightly better usage, nice pic |
| [23:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey guys.. why when i wget a file it adds ^M to the file? i xedit it and it adds ^M if i use nano i dont see it.. why? |
| [23:44:00] | lotia: | mofu: libmpeg2 does a better job than ffmpeg? |
| [23:44:00] | mofu: | slightly lower cpu usage I think |
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| [23:49:00] | mofu: | New Server: /dev/md0 601G 541k 601G 1% /myth |
| [23:49:00] | The_Login: | any good tutorial for dvb driver install plz |
| [23:49:00] | xris: | well, we made the front page of /. with .19 |
| [23:50:00] | mofu: | and Digg earlier today |
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| [23:51:00] | xris: | heh |
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| [23:52:00] | nanoITX: | :-) |
| [23:52:00] | mofu: | The_Login: http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html |
| [23:53:00] | nanoITX: | Oh, is there a *definitive* list of dependencies for mythtv anywhere? I'd like to completely build from scratch on a minimal linux 2.6.15 install on my nanoITX |
| [23:53:00] | nanoITX: | Right now, I just slapped FC 3 on it, and went from there, but that's WAY too much for this frontend |
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| [23:54:00] | lotia: | so combined system and usr cpu usage is < 20% will it spike watching fast motion stuff using ffmpeg? |
| [23:54:00] | fdsd: | I think Mythtv needs to update their website more |
| [23:54:00] | lane (n=lschwar@c-24-118-139-118.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [23:54:00] | fdsd: | it was almost 1 year since they updated it |
| [23:55:00] | Comprox: | If one is looking at trying to use MythTV, but has not touched Linux in over 10 years (and only a little back then), am I in for a world of hurt trying to figure this out? The sintructions seem like greek to me already :) |
| [23:55:00] | mofu: | fdsd: which do you want? Update the website or update the software?? there hasn't been any news worth sharing, if you;re using SVN pay more attention to the mailing lists instead of the webiste |
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| [23:56:00] | fdsd: | Comprox, yeah, you should have a good understanding on how the system works, command line is your friend.. |
| [23:56:00] | Comprox: | that's what I figured |
| [23:56:00] | nanoITX: | Comprox: you might want to do what I did: start with a relatively full Linux + O/S install, like FC 3 and then layer the myth bits on top. |
| [23:56:00] | mofu: | Comprox: be patient, go slow . . the Docs are actually pretty good |
| [23:56:00] | fdsd: | Comprox, if you can install gentoo linux you can install mythtv |
| [23:57:00] | Comprox: | Oh, Im sure the docs are good, Im not sure if Im good at reading docs, being male and all |
| [23:57:00] | mofu: | lol |
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| [23:58:00] | Comprox: | Not used to the whole manual reading thing |
| [23:58:00] | lotia: | fdsd: actually gentoo is not too much of a pain if you follow the instructions. |
| [23:58:00] | fdsd: | yay mythtv 0.19 is installed |
| [23:58:00] | mofu: | ubuntu distro makes myth fairly painless as well, take your choice, emerge or apt-get |
| [23:58:00] | lotia: | also i'd strongly recommend using evms for disk management |
| [23:58:00] | ** Comprox scurris off to read ** | |
| [23:58:00] | fdsd: | lotia, naw |
| [23:59:00] | lotia: | fdsd: i think its better than the lvm2 tools |
| [23:59:00] | mofu: | I've decided to go w/ RAID0 from now on |
| [23:59:00] | mofu: | its just TV . . . |
| [23:59:00] | fdsd: | hmm I cant see any differences in apperence with 0.19 |
| [23:59:00] | fdsd: | interesting |
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