| Thursday, February 9th, 2006, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:00] | sammylin2: | Freeman |
| [00:01:00] | sammylin2: | you may have solved my problem which has plagued me for 3 days |
| [00:01:00] | sammylin2: | Freman |
| [00:01:00] | Yellow-Snow: | has anyone set their cpu to hibernate? |
| [00:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ? |
| [00:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hibernate? |
| [00:01:00] | Yellow-Snow: | er computer |
| [00:01:00] | Yellow-Snow: | sorry |
| [00:01:00] | ** sammylin2 thanks Freman ** | |
| [00:01:00] | Freman: | Why go to the effort? (c; |
| [00:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they are not bears! ;-) |
| [00:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | save power |
| [00:02:00] | Freman: | np sammylin2, hope it's right (c: |
| [00:02:00] | ** sammylin2 crosses fingers ** | |
| [00:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Yellow-Snow: I only use powernow and stuff like that |
| [00:02:00] | Freman: | and increase wear |
| [00:02:00] | sammylin2: | the use flag i used before was ie1394 |
| [00:02:00] | sammylin2: | =X |
| [00:02:00] | Freman: | +e (c: |
| [00:02:00] | sammylin2: | +ee |
| [00:02:00] | sammylin2: | now portage threw in an extra package |
| [00:03:00] | sammylin2: | libav1394 |
| [00:03:00] | sammylin2: | hope thats what im missing |
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| [00:17:00] | Gumby: | looking for a bit of a hand with getting ivtv running. I get the following when running utils/ivtvfwextract.pl pvr_2.0.24.23035.zip |
| [00:17:00] | Gumby: | utils/ivtvfwextract.pl: Can't open /root/tmp/ivtvex.1562/hcwpvrp2.sys: No such file or directory |
| [00:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | well time to begin 14 hour fast |
| [00:17:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ARG! |
| [00:18:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm im debating.. do i want 2 monitors or 1 monitor and a tv |
| [00:20:00] | Gumby: | 1 monitor and a TV if you are going to be watching TV much |
| [00:20:00] | rav3r: | mount -F cifs -o username=xxx,password=xxx //192.168.0.100/matt /mnt/mattmac why doesn't this work? |
| [00:21:00] | Gumby: | whats the error? |
| [00:21:00] | rav3r: | it just returns a usages instuctions |
| [00:21:00] | Gumby: | try mount -t |
| [00:21:00] | rav3r: | mount error 1 = Operation not permitted |
| [00:22:00] | Gumby: | is this a windows share? |
| [00:22:00] | rav3r: | -t instead of -F? |
| [00:22:00] | rav3r: | it is a mac share |
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| [00:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: is it possible that the PCI slot I have the hauppauge in is disagreeing with the hauppauge? |
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| [00:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am just trying to figure out cause I am having serious issues |
| [00:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I never remember anything like this with my 32bit box |
| [00:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its odd |
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| [00:29:00] | rav3r: | is this right for fstab? /192.168.0.101/matt /mnt/mattmac smbfs username=xxx,password=xxx 0 0 ? |
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| [00:30:00] | rav3r: | or //? |
| [00:36:00] | kramman: | hello |
| [00:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well apparently 2.6.15 hates ivtv I guess |
| [00:37:00] | kramman: | new mythtv install on ubuntu, pvr 500, new ivtv drivers, it can only tune in the "default" channel and then won't change channels |
| [00:38:00] | kramman: | log says : Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
| [00:38:00] | kramman: | I have set up the capture cards and successfully ran mythfilldatabase |
| [00:39:00] | rav3r: | where can i see any errors from /etc/fstab? i'm looking at the logs in /var/log and can't find anything |
| [00:40:00] | kramman: | rav3r: are trying to mount a local file system or an nfs file system? |
| [00:41:00] | rav3r: | it's on my local network |
| [00:42:00] | kramman: | a sample fstab line would be like: |
| [00:42:00] | kramman: | ... |
| [00:43:00] | rav3r: | is i've restarted and /mnt/mattmac is empty, so i'm looking for the error |
| [00:43:00] | rav3r: | in what? Xorg.log? |
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| [00:44:00] | kramman: | 192.168.0.101:/the/exported/filesystem /the/local/directory/you/want/to/mount/to nfs noatime,hard,intr 0 0 |
| [00:44:00] | kramman: | have you "exported" the nfs share on 192.168.0.101 ? |
| [00:44:00] | rav3r: | when i do the mount command on the command line, it works |
| [00:45:00] | kramman: | k |
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| [00:45:00] | kramman: | your first question: is this right for fstab? /192.168.0.101/matt /mnt/mattmac smbfs username=xxx,password=xxx 0 0 ? --that is not right |
| [00:45:00] | kramman: | but you are close if you follow my example |
| [00:48:00] | rav3r: | in your example, where does my username and password go? |
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| [00:48:00] | kramman: | rav3r: my bad, I thought you were doing nfs and didn't see samba |
| [00:49:00] | kramman: | I've never mounted a samba share like that |
| [00:49:00] | kramman: | sorry |
| [00:49:00] | rav3r: | lol |
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| [00:49:00] | rav3r: | is ok |
| [00:49:00] | rav3r: | thanks |
| [00:50:00] | rav3r: | do you know where the error log would be? |
| [00:51:00] | Layer01_zz-_-zz is now known as Layer01 | |
| [00:52:00] | rav3r: | it works now! |
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| [00:57:00] | kramman: | rav3r: what did you do? |
| [00:58:00] | kramman: | and do you have any suggestions for my aforementioned problem? :) |
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| [01:00:00] | rav3r: | kramman, i think it was because i had 1 / |
| [01:00:00] | rav3r: | not // |
| [01:00:00] | rav3r: | and i had one digit off in the ip ,oops. |
| [01:00:00] | rav3r: | <oops> |
| [01:00:00] | rav3r: | your question about filldatabase? |
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| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, hihi, have oyu figured it out? |
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| [01:04:00] | kramman: | my problem is, I can't change channels |
| [01:05:00] | kramman: | the log says: Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
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| [01:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: doing good here |
| [01:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that 2.6.15 just was causing issues |
| [01:07:00] | kramman: | mythtv web site suggests there may be a problem with the program database, which there does not seem to be. AND, it suggests there may be a permissions issue on the video device, which there isn't |
| [01:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think I am going to modify the information on the wiki and advise against it |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | kramman: if it says your channel is named "" then something sounds wrong with the database |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | though it's likely the channel table, not the program table |
| [01:09:00] | kramman: | xris: thanks! whats funny is I am using the exact same database I was using prior to reinstalling everything (from gentoo to ubuntu) |
| [01:10:00] | kramman: | ok, so its not funny, just strange :) |
| [01:10:00] | rav3r: | kramman, i havn't gotten that far yet |
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| [01:10:00] | xris: | kramman: different versions of mysql? |
| [01:11:00] | xris: | at least ubuntu didn't wipe your drive like it did for me |
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| [01:12:00] | kramman: | I thought ubuntu was pretty "careful" about that. but I did have my recordings on a different drive than the system |
| [01:13:00] | kramman: | while I'm here...i have to ask |
| [01:13:00] | kramman: | has anyone had any luck getting ffmpeg/nuvexport to work with exporting to ipod on ubuntu/mythtv setup? |
| [01:14:00] | kramman: | I've tried ALL of the guides to "fix" ffmpeg and none of them have worked for me |
| [01:14:00] | kramman: | there is one thing I haven't tried yet because I don't know how, and that is using ffmpeg from hoary |
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| [01:15:00] | stevenm: | Hello. Many things (mythtv, nuvexport) complain about Can't open file: 'recordedmarkup.MYI'. What the heck is this file, where would it be, and what does it DO? |
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| [01:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's the mysql datafile for the recordedmarkup table |
| [01:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | it stores seek informationas well as commercial/edit info about every recording |
| [01:16:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: actually, it's the index file |
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| [01:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if you are getting that error odds are the file got corrupted by an im[proper shutdown |
| [01:17:00] | xris: | MYD is data, MYI is index |
| [01:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | true, true |
| [01:17:00] | mos__: | hi there, Im using knoppmyth and have a problem if anyone wants to take a shot at it. nvidia seems to have dropped DGA support so i cant seem to watch tv with xawtv and im assuming thats what mythtv is using, does anyone know a workaround to get it to use xv instead? |
| [01:17:00] | xris: | stevenm: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . ze_mythdb.pl |
| [01:17:00] | xris: | run that, it'll likely fix it |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | mos__: Myth uses XV, or failing that falls back to regular X11 calls |
| [01:19:00] | mos__: | hmm then it must be something else.... |
| [01:19:00] | mos__: | any idea? it will work, barely, under the vesa driver |
| [01:19:00] | kramman: | xris: per your previous comment "different versions of mysql" the answer is yes |
| [01:19:00] | stevenm: | xris, thanks! |
| [01:19:00] | xris: | kramman: if you went from 5 in gentoo to 4 in ubuntu, that can cause all kinds of problems. |
| [01:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | mos__: Assuming you have a nvidia card, then the regular nvidia driver (the one from nvidia I mean, not the open source one) should work fine |
| [01:20:00] | xris: | if you want from 4 to 5, then you need to run update scripts. |
| [01:20:00] | kramman: | ok, guess better dump and import |
| [01:20:00] | kramman: | I wanted to get off easy, guess that won't happen |
| [01:20:00] | mos__: | GreyFoxx, thats what I am using driver version 8176 |
| [01:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | try to revert to 7676 |
| [01:20:00] | mos__: | okay |
| [01:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | 8174 and 8178 have issues with OpenGL Vsync which can chew up CPU |
| [01:20:00] | kramman: | xris: actually I don't remember for sure which version gentoo had, but I don't think it was 5....hmmm... |
| [01:21:00] | kramman: | thanks for ideas |
| [01:22:00] | mos__: | ill try that, thanks for the help GreyFoxx |
| [01:23:00] | stevenm: | anyone here used nuvexport? What versions of ffmpeg, transcode do you guys use with it? |
| [01:23:00] | kramman: | xris: dang, missed your comment again. I'm not familiar with update scripts but I'll look in to it |
| [01:23:00] | xris: | stevenm: it should work with just about everything out there |
| [01:23:00] | xris: | kramman: there are grant-related updates that need to happen going from 4 -> 5... |
| [01:23:00] | kramman: | ok |
| [01:23:00] | xris: | I had other issues, too. was easier to dump/import and avoid problems altogether. |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | kramman, on the end of the merge of mysql 5, it tells you what scripts to run to migrate your data |
| [01:24:00] | stevenm: | xris, not working. first off, yuvdenoise responds- invalid option -r, then dies. With no noise reduction, sits there for a few min with "processed 0 of 0 frames" and then says ffmpeg died early. then dies |
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| [01:24:00] | xris: | stevenm: upgrade nuvexport |
| [01:24:00] | kramman: | kormoc: I saw that notification, but was scared to run them fearing it would mess up my database. |
| [01:24:00] | stevenm: | xris, latest, 0.2 |
| [01:24:00] | kramman: | I'll go back to that point. you guys are great |
| [01:24:00] | xris: | .2 is ancient. svn tag is the latest |
| [01:24:00] | stevenm: | xris, thanks, will do in a sec |
| [01:25:00] | kramman: | but I am talking about the ubuntu scripts... |
| [01:25:00] | stevenm: | xris, where is the official svn for it? or is there a snapshot/tarball I can use? |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | it's all at http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | downloads, anyway |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | or https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport for svn checkout |
| [01:26:00] | stevenm: | xris, http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport/nuvexp . . . .svn.tar.bz2 ? |
| [01:26:00] | xris: | I just don't like to version my software with so many little changes happening |
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| [01:26:00] | xris: | stevenm: -latest is a symlink to the latest version... or the most recent date |
| [01:26:00] | andrer: | anyone know a way to know which TUNER my card have? i've found out that it is card# 139, but i am yet to find which tuner |
| [01:27:00] | xris: | I will likely release 0.3 when mythtv .19 comes out... and then maybe start more consistent versions once I get some perl libraries built into libmyth |
| [01:28:00] | jemarcks_: | when is .19 coming out? |
| [01:28:00] | stevenm: | xris, thank you. Showing XXX or 0 frames, 0%, 0.00 fps, but at least it seems to be running |
| [01:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | anytime now |
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| [01:28:00] | xris: | jemarcks_: soon |
| [01:28:00] | kramman: | xris: I didn't know who you were. Hail xris! |
| [01:28:00] | jemarcks_: | cool... is it worth the upgrade from 18.1? |
| [01:28:00] | nasa: | Could anyone tell me what creates the /dev/lircm ? For some reason it's not being created on my mandriva system... |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | stevenm: the frame count doesn't always work... |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | jemarcks_: yes |
| [01:28:00] | stevenm: | xris, thats fine... as long as the output does |
| [01:28:00] | jemarcks_: | cool |
| [01:29:00] | xris: | nasa: lirc |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks_: | xris, briefly, what do i get if i upgrade to .19? |
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| [01:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | a higher version number :) |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks_: | lol |
| [01:30:00] | nasa: | xris: thanks — I think I just noticed my problem (must look at everything before asking questions...) |
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| [01:31:00] | xris: | jemarcks_: there's a huge changelog at wiki.mythtv.org |
| [01:31:00] | jemarcks_: | ok, thanks |
| [01:31:00] | jemarcks_: | ill keep my eyes peeled for it |
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| [01:34:00] | mos__: | GreyFoxx, that fixed the DGA problem, except now its telling me /dev/video0: no overlay support and still giving me nothing |
| [01:35:00] | kramman: | Time to go home and try finishing my mythtv box. A big thanks to everyone who has anything to do with mythtv, its developoment, ivtv, nuvexport, and other related projects. It is awesome! |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, /dev/video has nothing to do with your video card |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | sounds like something related to your tuner |
| [01:35:00] | mos__: | GreyFoxx, its a hauppage 350 |
| [01:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | wtf would overlay support have to do with video0 ? |
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| [01:38:00] | mos__: | heres the exact error from xawtv |
| [01:38:00] | mos__: | /dev/video0 [v4l2]: no overlay support |
| [01:38:00] | mos__: | v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway |
| [01:38:00] | rav3r: | is it difficult to change the music visualization in 18? |
| [01:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | mos_ ahh, well xawtv last I looked doesn't work with ivtv cards |
| [01:38:00] | bmk789: | can someone explain to me how 2 frontends to one backend would work? |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | hmm, looks like I get me an mce remote for my mythbox.. just couldn't sell it together with the kb |
| [01:38:00] | mos__: | GreyFoxx, ah, well its still not working with whatever mythtv uses |
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| [01:39:00] | dtm: | bmk789: two roommates in a house |
| [01:39:00] | mos__: | and i cant figure out how to get an error log for it |
| [01:39:00] | dtm: | bmk789: two family TVs |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | mos__: myth doesn't use an external app |
| [01:39:00] | mos__: | GreyFoxx, ah |
| [01:39:00] | bmk789: | but if one had 2 overlapping recordings scheduled, would it assign a recording to the other? |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | so you will hjave to get messages from the output of the backend and thde forntend |
| [01:40:00] | mos__: | GreyFoxx, any log files for that? |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | bmk789: that's a backend thing, got nothing to do with a frontend |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | a frontend plays, the backend records |
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| [01:40:00] | bmk789: | ok then ive got 2 backends and 2 frontends then |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | then yes, it will spread the load assuming the channels are available on each tuner |
| [01:41:00] | bmk789: | sweet thx |
| [01:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | That is regardless of whether or not the tuners are in 1 or multiple machines |
| [01:43:00] | bmk789: | ok so ive got 2 machines, one with each tuner, 1 machine has the database and the other stores the media, would they work like 2 terminals to the same media center? |
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| [01:45:00] | bmk789: | or is that a dumb setup? |
| [01:46:00] | Gumby: | bmk789: its a perfectly valid setup |
| [01:46:00] | Gumby: | I'd prefer to run the DB and media storage on the same box, but thats just me |
| [01:47:00] | sammylin: | do i need any decoder packages to watch HDTV from firewire? |
| [01:48:00] | Yellow-Snow: | does anyone use sounds w/ their mythtv? |
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| [01:54:00] | seme: | hi guys.... I keep getting the error... "No useable audio output driver found"... I've changed the output device to "ALSA:default" and the mixer to default |
| [01:54:00] | seme: | I can run mplayer -ao alsa file.mp3 and it works perfectly from the command line |
| [01:55:00] | mos__: | GreyFoxx, after looking at the output of mythfrontend it seems im not getting any picture because it cant get the color key color, heres the paste: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xSI71c82.html How do I get it to get the color key color? |
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| [02:02:00] | Manolis: | Anyone familiar with this when connecting to a remote backend? |
| [02:03:00] | Manolis: | Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
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| [02:06:00] | seme: | sorry |
| [02:06:00] | seme: | I just connect locally |
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| [02:10:00] | Manolis: | I think I just found the answer in the manual of all places DOH! |
| [02:12:00] | seme: | do you have an alsa card? |
| [02:12:00] | seme: | everything is working on my mythtv box but I can't play my mp3's because it can't find a usable audio output driver |
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| [02:14:00] | but4bi: | anyone got mythstreamtv to work with the new svn mythweb? |
| [02:15:00] | Manolis: | seme: go to a console prompt and type "mplayer -ao help" |
| [02:16:00] | Manolis: | seme: do you have alsa sdl and/or oss listed? |
| [02:16:00] | Manolis: | but4bi: I'll check, I have yesterday's SVN |
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| [02:17:00] | but4bi: | that would be nice, but since the new mythweb seems to be very different in structure it wont happen without any programming ... i started, but well :) |
| [02:18:00] | but4bi: | recoding other peoples code sucks :) or at least i suck in it :) |
| [02:19:00] | seme: | I have alsa mpegpes sdl null and pcm listed |
| [02:20:00] | seme: | hrm... there are multiple audio settings... damnit.... |
| [02:20:00] | seme: | ok so audio is playing now with ALSA:default set in both the general and music player areas |
| [02:20:00] | Manolis: | but4bi: I tried installing .96 into MythWeb and got this: |
| [02:20:00] | Manolis: | Oops! No support for this version of MythWeb |
| [02:21:00] | seme: | odd... my videos don't show any kind of preview... how do I get it to find hte imdb image for the dvd I am transcoding |
| [02:21:00] | Manolis: | seme: press i ? then search imdb ? |
| [02:22:00] | but4bi: | manolis: thx, but thats no news for me though :) |
| [02:23:00] | seme: | it doesn't give me those options.. .it just lets me look at the details or view the movie |
| [02:23:00] | but4bi: | those damn different versions all the time |
| [02:23:00] | Manolis: | but4bi: are you running CVS? |
| [02:23:00] | Manolis: | seme: oh, setup / video manager |
| [02:24:00] | Manolis: | seme: but do it after you haved the .avi file in your video dir, I never used Myth to convert DVD's |
| [02:24:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm.. how many people use universal remotes? |
| [02:24:00] | seme: | nice... that works |
| [02:25:00] | but4bi: | manolis: im running snapshots of it, yes |
| [02:25:00] | but4bi: | svn8765–1 |
| [02:26:00] | Manolis: | but4bi: what's the right command to get the latest mythstreamtv cvs? |
| [02:26:00] | Manolis: | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net :/cvsroot/mythstreamtv co -P modulename |
| [02:26:00] | Manolis: | What's the module name? |
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| [02:29:00] | but4bi: | hmm, sorry. cant help ya here, im running precompiled svn of myth and normal release of mythstreamtv. im not really into that svn/cvs stuff |
| [02:29:00] | Manolis: | I thought you were saying that you were running a cvs of mythstreamtv |
| [02:29:00] | Manolis: | Looks like we're both SOL |
| [02:30:00] | seme: | hrm... where do you find the imdb number for a movie... I can't find it on imdb.com |
| [02:30:00] | but4bi: | manolis: no, i thought you meant mythtv itself :) |
| [02:31:00] | but4bi: | or mythweb |
| [02:31:00] | Manolis: | seme: it'll be in the url address |
| [02:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | Can someone help me out with installing a theme? seems i cant find the right dir =\ |
| [02:31:00] | seme: | aaah |
| [02:31:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: sure |
| [02:31:00] | Yellow-Snow: | http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv/ |
| [02:32:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i downloaded it.. tried to do the tar but im not sure where the folder is? im using knoppmyth.. what user is it under ect? |
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| [02:33:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: try goin here --> /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes |
| [02:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | under users mythtv? |
| [02:33:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: do you see other themes there? |
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| [02:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | root? |
| [02:33:00] | Yellow-Snow: | cd /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes right? |
| [02:34:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: sure root is ok, can you "cd" to that dir or maybe it doesn't exist? |
| [02:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hm it exist |
| [02:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | k let me see if i can do it now |
| [02:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | cd ~ |
| [02:35:00] | Yellow-Snow: | wops |
| [02:35:00] | Manolis: | :) |
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| [02:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i tried that command and it says |
| [02:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | tar /usr/share/mythtv/themes: not found in the archive |
| [02:37:00] | Yellow-Snow: | tar: error exit delayed from prebious errors |
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| [02:39:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: it's a tar file that has also been gzipped, you see it a lot |
| [02:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh then why did it tell me to tar it? |
| [02:39:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: you can untar and unzip it in one fell swoop like this: |
| [02:39:00] | Manolis: | tar xvfz file.tar.gz |
| [02:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | aight |
| [02:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | so just do that? |
| [02:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | tar -xzvf MythCenter.tar.gz |
| [02:39:00] | Yellow-Snow: | tar xzvf MythCenter.tar.gz |
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| [02:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | just that? |
| [02:40:00] | Manolis: | skip the "-" otherwise yes |
| [02:40:00] | Manolis: | no! |
| [02:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? |
| [02:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh |
| [02:40:00] | Manolis: | oh, no, it's ok, your 2nd one was right "tar xvfz file.tar.gz" |
| [02:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ..tar xvfz MythCenter.tar.gz |
| [02:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | k |
| [02:40:00] | Manolis: | yes |
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| [02:41:00] | Manolis: | I guess that was your first one but without the "-" |
| [02:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | did that.. its in the right dir now? |
| [02:41:00] | Manolis: | it's in the dir where you executed that command |
| [02:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh |
| [02:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | root |
| [02:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | damn |
| [02:42:00] | Manolis: | you might have to move it into /usr/share/mythtv/themes/ now |
| [02:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | its a bunch of files |
| [02:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | tar -xzvf MythCenter.tar.gz /usr/share/mythtv/themes/ |
| [02:42:00] | Yellow-Snow: | why does it say to do it like that? |
| [02:42:00] | Manolis: | why does what/who say that? |
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| [02:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | the website |
| [02:43:00] | rav3r: | where can i find documentation of mythmusic key commands? i don't see it in the documentation... |
| [02:43:00] | Manolis: | oh, not sure, I never use the "-" but maybe it doesn't matter, I figure why use it if you don't need to |
| [02:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | mv is move file? |
| [02:43:00] | Manolis: | yes |
| [02:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | omg |
| [02:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | it works |
| [02:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thanks! |
| [02:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | just one of the many things i want to do |
| [02:47:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: cool! This is also a good theme if you don't have it already: |
| [02:47:00] | Manolis: | http://www.aldorf.no/mythtv/ |
| [02:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | oh i have that one i think |
| [02:47:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im not a fan of the pictures idk |
| [02:47:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: you may sometimes also see a tar file that has been bzipped |
| [02:48:00] | Manolis: | it'll be file.tar.bz instead of file.tar.gz , you can use "tar xvfj file.tar.bz" |
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| [02:50:00] | rav3r: | anyone know where i can find keyboard commands for mythmusic? |
| [02:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | bz = xvfj gz = xvfz and bz2 = xjf |
| [02:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ? |
| [02:50:00] | Manolis: | bz2 is also xvfj (v is just for verbose so you see what is happening) |
| [02:51:00] | Manolis: | think "z for gz" and "j for bzip" |
| [02:53:00] | dtm: | or read the fucking manual. |
| [02:54:00] | dtm: | == rtfm |
| [02:55:00] | lane: | Hi all. A question for those who are familiar with trac – would it be accurate to say that the items still listed in Active Tickets for 0.19 are the only items which are not currently in the svn code which will make it into 0.19? |
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| [02:57:00] | bmk789: | how do i install themes? |
| [02:58:00] | Manolis: | bmk789: un tar them into /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/ |
| [02:59:00] | bmk789: | ah thats it? |
| [02:59:00] | Manolis: | bmk789: yeah, if that is your theme directory that is... |
| [03:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | now how do u delete a theme? |
| [03:00:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
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| [03:01:00] | Manolis: | Yellow-Snow: don't even bother, just don't use that particular theme |
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| [03:02:00] | squish102: | Yellow-Snow u still here? i thought by now someone whould be sick of u and just vnc'ed to your computer and fixed everything ;) |
| [03:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | lol |
| [03:02:00] | dtm: | squish102: you're right about that first part |
| [03:02:00] | dtm: | holy shit. |
| [03:02:00] | Yellow-Snow: | =) |
| [03:02:00] | ShockValue: | lol.. i just finished installing xorg7.0, but i cant get my wife off the mythtv box so i can reboot it :) |
| [03:02:00] | dtm: | ShockValue: now that's a problem many people would love to have ;) |
| [03:02:00] | squish102: | lol ShockValue |
| [03:03:00] | Manolis: | ShockValue: bait her with chocolate leading out of the room |
| [03:03:00] | squish102: | yes me me |
| [03:03:00] | ShockValue: | )$!*!#_).. why didnt anyone tell me Vonage went public today? jeez.. another lost opportunity |
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| [03:04:00] | dtm: | ShockValue: lost to what? |
| [03:05:00] | ShockValue: | lost money i could have made :) |
| [03:07:00] | ShockValue: | i had a good laugh at work today... i walked by our conference room, and 2 sales guys were in there struggling to set up MSFT media center |
| [03:07:00] | ShockValue: | they're like, this is so cool, wait till we get it running... i was like "nah, i build myself a better one at home.." |
| [03:08:00] | ShockValue: | but.. but... mce can play mp3's too! <yawn> |
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| [03:08:00] | ShockValue: | has anyone asked when 0.19 will be released in the last 15 minutes? |
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| [03:11:00] | rav3r: | nice ShockValue |
| [03:12:00] | rav3r: | i like my first box so far, but there are things i wish would have done differently, so i think this "test box" is going to be someone else, then i will make myself a better one <eg> |
| [03:12:00] | mattwj2005: | what type of DVD backup capabilities does MythTV have? |
| [03:12:00] | lane: | ShockValue: no, but if you'd like I could oblige |
| [03:12:00] | lane: | :) |
| [03:13:00] | mattwj2005: | divx/xvid support? |
| [03:13:00] | ShockValue: | go for it, then i dont have to sound annoying :) |
| [03:13:00] | UBL: | "lost money i could have made" — sounds like you work at the riaa? |
| [03:13:00] | rav3r: | it this rate, 19 will be out before i am done setting up 18 :0/ |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | mattwj2005: Myth doesn't natively support any dvd burning/backup |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are other projects, like mythburn that do thay tsort of thing |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I have never used one to comment on how good they are |
| [03:13:00] | ShockValue: | unless you're speaking of ripping DVD's to hard drive? |
| [03:14:00] | rav3r: | even then, the built in ripper sux |
| [03:14:00] | squish102: | mattwj2005 thanks to mythburn and mythtv, i have just completed recording a show and putting it on dvdrw for my wife |
| [03:14:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, i dont use myth ripping either |
| [03:15:00] | mattwj2005: | I was referring to MythDVD |
| [03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahh, ripping then, not burning |
| [03:16:00] | dtm: | UBL: bravo |
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| [03:16:00] | rav3r: | i got dvdshrink working in wine, but now i think it might be eaiser to just do my ripping in <gasp> windows |
| [03:16:00] | rav3r: | and then copy it over the network |
| [03:16:00] | squish102: | i think ripping is one of the biggest reasons i have to get mythtv up and running. i want instant access to my dvd collection instead of hunting for the stupid "bob the builder" dvd |
| [03:16:00] | seme: | nice |
| [03:16:00] | seme: | now everything is working |
| [03:16:00] | seme: | now I only have to connect this damn thing to my tv ;) |
| [03:16:00] | mattwj2005: | I would love to use MythTV as a video jukebox....and DVD backup system |
| [03:16:00] | mattwj2005: | :) |
| [03:16:00] | ShockValue: | rav3r: thats what i do... DVDDecrypter (windows) -> Network share -> MythVideo |
| [03:17:00] | seme: | mattwj2005: well let me tell you I just got it working and bamn.... I LOVE IT |
| [03:17:00] | rav3r: | squish102: that's me as well, my dream is all my media, including vhs, on my hard drives |
| [03:17:00] | Manolis: | squish102: just use dvdbackup and then acidrip |
| [03:17:00] | seme: | pictures... videos... music.... now if I can get games and my phone working |
| [03:17:00] | seme: | :) |
| [03:17:00] | ShockValue: | MythVideo + NitFlix = I WIN :) |
| [03:17:00] | briand: | hiyas, all. |
| [03:17:00] | rav3r: | ShockValue i like dvd shrink, cause you can easily remove stuff (like the french audio track) and do some compressing if you want |
| [03:17:00] | dtm: | ShockValue: lols. |
| [03:18:00] | mattwj2005: | nice logic Shock :P |
| [03:18:00] | squish102: | i'll brb, i have to dump the sql database, back up all my nuv, and reinstall (again) |
| [03:18:00] | rav3r: | but sometimes, i have to decrypt first |
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| [03:19:00] | ShockValue: | i just rip the whole thing to VOB and leave it at that.. I can hold about 100 dvd's that way, so I'm not that worried about it |
| [03:19:00] | rav3r: | i've just started, i've ripped one disk so far. got other issues to flush out before i do more |
| [03:19:00] | briand: | i have a MythTV box (0.18.1) which has been running for quite some time (nearly a year, now) with few (if any) problems. Now, I'd like to start saving some space by transcoding (mostly to remove commercials & cut points) the video. Perhaps later, I'll burn some DVDs... anyway: I'm using the PVR-350's TV-Out, so what transcode settings should I use so that I still have audio in the resultant file? |
| [03:20:00] | rav3r: | and i just have 200 gigs, and eaisly a few hundered dvds |
| [03:20:00] | ShockValue: | oops.. wife's show is over.. AFK |
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| [03:21:00] | rav3r: | and this box doesn't have room for another harddrive, so im not sure what i am going to do when it comes time to expand :s |
| [03:21:00] | rav3r: | (that was supposed to emote 'worried') |
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| [03:22:00] | dtm: | rav3r: you're going to reencode. |
| [03:23:00] | j3g: | i am having a hard time configuring audio for a bt878 card... i get audio but it is WAY too low.. is there a way to adjust the volume (alsa mixer/etc? ) the volume setting on tvtime has no effect |
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| [03:28:00] | rav3r: | dtm lol |
| [03:28:00] | mattwj2005: | yeah I saw a demo of mythtv at my college (some friends had it) |
| [03:28:00] | mattwj2005: | I am very impressed with the setup.....now all I need is some hardware :P |
| [03:29:00] | squish102: | mattwj2005 here is some advice |
| [03:29:00] | Yellow-Snow: | im still stuck on mythtv themes that are bz2 format |
| [03:29:00] | squish102: | get the right hardware, do research first |
| [03:30:00] | mattwj2005: | why is that? |
| [03:30:00] | squish102: | on 3rd tv tuner and now have only got it right |
| [03:30:00] | Yellow-Snow: | is there anyway to see root on ftp? |
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| [03:31:00] | mattwj2005: | what I was thinking *eventually* get enough money together and getting an HDTV tuner and two analog tuners |
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| [03:32:00] | mattwj2005: | then again from what I understand some of the HDTV turners....support analog including cable so made I should just get 3 of thoses |
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| [03:40:00] | Yellow-Snow: | how do u move everything in a folder into another folder? |
| [03:40:00] | kormoc: | mv /path/to/files/* /path/to/holder/ |
| [03:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | got it |
| [03:42:00] | SqWaw: | <3 gmail and its sexyness... http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gchat0pd.jpg |
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| [03:44:00] | squish102: | windows and internet explorer????? |
| [03:45:00] | Yellow-Snow: | anyone use athcool? |
| [03:47:00] | dtm: | rav3r: well! ya are! |
| [03:48:00] | Freman: | I've got a "dual" hdtv tuner... (realy a pci one, and a usb one) – the usb one doesn't seem to work )c; |
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| [03:51:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes |
| [03:51:00] | Yellow-Snow: | where is that like via ftp? //Mythtv/root ? |
| [03:51:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i cant find it |
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| [03:52:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – anybody here use mythweb and can stream both tv shows and videos? they both point to the video_dir link, but i have different folders for my tv and videos |
| [03:52:00] | abarbaccia: | is the proper way to set this up using both in the same directory? |
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| [03:56:00] | dtm: | Yellow-Snow: go to #linuxhelp. |
| [03:57:00] | Yellow-Snow: | fastingsucks.com |
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| [04:02:00] | mattwj2005: | so are PcHDTV HD-3000 hard to install? |
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| [04:05:00] | ShockValue: | good question mattwj2005 – ive been thinking of getting one as well |
| [04:05:00] | mattwj2005: | the only thing I don't like is no hardware encoding :( |
| [04:05:00] | mattwj2005: | all software based |
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| [04:06:00] | mattwj2005: | but dude....HDTV! *drools* |
| [04:06:00] | ShockValue: | its because hdtv is already encoded :) |
| [04:06:00] | ShockValue: | all it does is take the stream and write it to your hard drive |
| [04:06:00] | mattwj2005: | in what format? nuv??? |
| [04:07:00] | ** ShockValue shrugs ** | |
| [04:07:00] | ShockValue: | i think it's mpg4 stream |
| [04:07:00] | ShockValue: | or 2? i get mixed up |
| [04:07:00] | squish102: | mattwj2005 there is a pvr database on internet somewhere |
| [04:08:00] | squish102: | also u can check the knoppmyth forums "Tier 1 Installs" |
| [04:08:00] | squish102: | ppl that had no problems installing |
| [04:08:00] | ShockValue: | decoding is a different story.. that takes some horsepower |
| [04:11:00] | sammylin: | can i specify the vo option for live tv? |
| [04:11:00] | jerky_2: | mattwj2005, yes, it writes .nuv files |
| [04:11:00] | jerky_2: | i just got a box up and running on the PCHDTV 3000 |
| [04:12:00] | jerky_2: | it came out to about 5.4 gigs for 1 hour of 1280x720p HDTV |
| [04:12:00] | mattwj2005: | sounds good |
| [04:12:00] | jerky_2: | i would say it wasn't too hard to install, some snags here and there |
| [04:12:00] | jerky_2: | it took me about a week or two of working on it in my spare time at nights |
| [04:13:00] | mattwj2005: | jerky how did you install it? FC, debian, knoppmyth? |
| [04:14:00] | jerky_2: | i went with FC4, started with the wilsonet HOWTO, then needed to google for some extra info on DVB |
| [04:14:00] | jerky_2: | i have heard good things about knoppmyth though, but i wanted to try to create a "fully featured" box as best i could |
| [04:14:00] | jerky_2: | i want this box to be a dual-monitor box that can hook up to my HDTV and also have a monitor next to it for general purpose web browsing at the same time |
| [04:15:00] | mattwj2005: | sounds impressive |
| [04:15:00] | jerky_2: | well it will be, if i can get it to work :) |
| [04:15:00] | mattwj2005: | :) |
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| [04:18:00] | mattwj2005: | so what about these pvr-250s or pvr-350s? |
| [04:19:00] | mattwj2005: | from what I hear they run pretty well on an older system? |
| [04:19:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey is there a way to run a command after and before a recording? |
| [04:19:00] | Yellow-Snow: | like athcool on and athcool off? |
| [04:19:00] | xris: | user jobs can do it after |
| [04:20:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thats only under mythtv-setup eh? |
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| [04:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mattwj2005: I love my 350 |
| [04:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | great for encode/decode on a older system |
| [04:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it ran on a 1.4ghz I could do jobs while recording it was great! |
| [04:28:00] | jnunez: | I have a 150 on my P3 |
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| [04:29:00] | jnunez: | I don't use it much for LiveTV but my son does. I use it to record stuff and MAME |
| [04:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jobs while recording, and watching actually I could have it doing like 5 tasks without issue mattwj2005 it was awesome |
| [04:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jnunez: I have a dedicated box to my mythbox cause I dont like the delay hehe and I like ondemand :) |
| [04:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I got 2 cableboxes in my tv stand |
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| [04:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/mythfront.jpg.jpg that was before I upgraded my computer of course I need to redo that image soon |
| [04:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wow that is quite a while ago |
| [04:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that was before I got my PS2 haha |
| [04:31:00] | mattwj2005: | nice |
| [04:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kinda amazing to think that I have been running mythtv for nearly a year now heh |
| [04:32:00] | mattwj2005: | yeah I need a descent job before I am going to build a nice myth box.....but hey it is fun to read and learn about them for now |
| [04:32:00] | mattwj2005: | nice and stable cool |
| [04:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mattwj2005: I have just added as I could and my mythbox gets bigger and bigger and bigger hehe |
| [04:33:00] | mattwj2005: | slicker you go HD yet? |
| [04:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mattwj2005: although if your interested in HDTV you might want to consider the hd3000 |
| [04:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah I havent gone HDTV yet I am going to be doing it I guess in a 2 months or so I am planning out the way to do it hehe |
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| [04:42:00] | jnunez: | SlicerDicer-: I just got an extra cable box but can't get the 150's IR Blaster to work. I just got in my Serial IR Blaster. |
| [04:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what cablebox? |
| [04:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is it a motorola? |
| [04:44:00] | jnunez: | GI CFT 2200 |
| [04:44:00] | jnunez: | I wish. I heard the Motorola has Serial Control |
| [04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah thats what I do |
| [04:45:00] | jnunez: | I was also looking into Firewire for my Cablevison provided box |
| [04:46:00] | jnunez: | The firewire is working on it. I was able to grab videos via my iBook |
| [04:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have no idea how to do the ir blaster :/ |
| [04:46:00] | Yellow-Snow: | pimp! channel icons are working now |
| [04:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jnunez: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10927211 |
| [04:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | enjoy :) |
| [04:49:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hhhmmm |
| [04:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | ... u know how the ps has that thing for the cable where if its it channel 3 u see the playstation? |
| [04:50:00] | Yellow-Snow: | i wonder if i can use that some how |
| [04:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you mean a rf-modulator? |
| [04:51:00] | Yellow-Snow: | thats what its called? |
| [04:51:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [04:51:00] | Yellow-Snow: | idk.. ether im going to buy a universal remote or.. idk |
| [04:51:00] | ** SlicerDicer- dances around kormoc ** | |
| [04:51:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [04:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I knew something totally crazy like that! |
| [04:51:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, http://www.jimmykimmel.net/JimmyKimmelLive/bestcensorship1.htm |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha! I am 1% closer to being as useful as kormoc |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [04:52:00] | Yellow-Snow: | hey for other remotes? are they faster in response time? |
| [04:52:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [04:52:00] | mattwj2005: | what the heck is QAM? |
| [04:52:00] | mattwj2005: | :P |
| [04:52:00] | kormoc: | Quadrature Amplitude Modulation |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | see now that I did not know |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [04:52:00] | jnunez: | SlicerDicer-: Thanks. Reading through |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep jnunez |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just wondered if it might work it seems somebody got it to work |
| [04:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant say myself if it does but hey |
| [04:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its worth a shot you can pick up a RS232 from radioshack for like 5$ thats what I did |
| [04:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if thats what I think it is anyway |
| [04:53:00] | mattwj2005: | okay kormoc....what does it mean if a tuner doesn't support it? |
| [04:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tuner does not support what? |
| [04:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | QAM? |
| [04:53:00] | kormoc: | mattwj2005, it's how digital tv is sent, so it would support analong tv (normal), but not digital |
| [04:53:00] | mattwj2005: | yeah |
| [04:54:00] | mattwj2005: | oh okay thanks |
| [04:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well lost is on :) be back later heh |
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| [05:04:00] | ShockValue: | kormoc – got xorg 7 working with a bit of tinkering.. |
| [05:05:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [05:06:00] | ShockValue: | yeah.. it allowed me to use xvmc acceleration with xine.. but that didnt really work anywya :) |
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| [05:09:00] | croddy: | hello, can anyone recommend a way to install mythgame on a debian system? |
| [05:10:00] | Yellow-Snow: | same |
| [05:11:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, hehe, nice |
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| [05:18:00] | ShockValue: | is there a compregensive list of myth plugins available someplace (not just the "official" ones?) |
| [05:18:00] | StickMan: | i dont think so shock |
| [05:19:00] | StickMan: | the only non official one i know of is mythstream |
| [05:20:00] | ShockValue: | what about the p2p streaming one? or is that the same? |
| [05:21:00] | Yellow-Snow: | anyone know where i can find a walkthrough to set up my res and dpi w/e for my size tv? |
| [05:22:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, that one is 'forbidden' to be spoken of here |
| [05:22:00] | ShockValue: | yeah yeah.. i dont want it.. im just saying, there are some plugins floating around |
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| [05:25:00] | stevenm: | Hello. I have a program in Upcoming Recordings. It is coming up as Conflicting. I do not want to record it. I select it, type 'i' and look at it. I can set it to 'Do not record this program' but it still shows conflicting |
| [05:25:00] | stevenm: | Restarted frontend, backend. This show still comes up conflicting, even though it SAYS 'do not record this program' in the options videw |
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| [05:25:00] | ShockValue: | stevenm: i'd suggest the mythweb as a workaround (easier to schedule IMHO). but not sure otherwise |
| [05:25:00] | eiggirC: | thats okay |
| [05:26:00] | eiggirC: | stevenm: go to the upcoming recordings and tell it to "not record this episode" |
| [05:26:00] | eiggirC: | or something similar |
| [05:26:00] | eiggirC: | you want the schedule to continue, just not that specific one |
| [05:26:00] | stevenm: | eiggirC, DID that. still shows conflicting. For multiple programs at the moment |
| [05:26:00] | stevenm: | eiggirC, no, I never want to see this. ever |
| [05:27:00] | eiggirC: | okay |
| [05:27:00] | stevenm: | in fact, there are two items in Upcoming Recordings which are flagged as 'Do not record this program' |
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| [05:38:00] | ShockValue: | so does 0.19 really have an internal DVD player module now? |
| [05:38:00] | laga: | yep. without menu support, though (for now, this patch will go after 0.19 is released) |
| [05:38:00] | ShockValue: | meh.. thats why im still stuck using xine. |
| [05:42:00] | ShockValue: | here's a pretty good list of un-official plugins: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythUnofficialPlugins it doesnt list "that one" though :) |
| [05:43:00] | Yellow-Snow: | nice find |
| [05:44:00] | ShockValue: | nothing too exciting though.. guess ill just go watch some TV instead of breaking myth :) |
| [05:46:00] | Arkkis: | kormoc, soo, got home yet? |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | Arkkis, yup |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | Arkkis, edit /usr/portage/eclass/mythtv-plugins.eclass |
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| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | Arkkis, change line 15 to |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | Arkkis, S="${WORKDIR}/mythplugins" |
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| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | Arkkis, then it will work till you reemerge |
| [05:53:00] | Arkkis: | ok, thanks |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | Arkkis, erm, it will work until you sync portage |
| [05:53:00] | Arkkis: | ok |
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| [07:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Job: Flag Commercials 24% Completed @ 285.331 fps. wow |
| [07:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn that system is fast hehe |
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| [07:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey is anybody around who knows mysql really well? |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not sure how to backup a database |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I want to backup the database entirely for mythtv but I dont know how |
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| [07:29:00] | UBL: | SlicerDicer-, i think there is a script |
| [07:29:00] | UBL: | that does that |
| [07:29:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: mysqldump -a mythconverg -h localhost --opt > mythconverg.sql |
| [07:30:00] | DGnome: | dtm: \o/ |
| [07:31:00] | dtm: | :-o <3 |
| [07:31:00] | DGnome: | ^^ |
| [07:31:00] | dtm: | DGnome: is that it, MISTER SQL EXPURT |
| [07:31:00] | DGnome: | SIR, DUNNOSIR!@# |
| [07:32:00] | dtm: | roger dat |
| [07:32:00] | DGnome: | right now I R ACCOUNTING |
| [07:32:00] | DGnome: | :/ |
| [07:32:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [07:32:00] | dtm: | noted, sir |
| [07:32:00] | DGnome: | soon to be I R SQL |
| [07:33:00] | dtm: | werd. |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm thanks |
| [07:34:00] | dtm: | lalalallaa |
| [07:34:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: use it in good health |
| [07:35:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: i assume you know how to create a new db if necessary and various assorted whatnots, of which there should be few or none |
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| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer: | holy crap man.... dtm |
| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer: | that hardlocked my system |
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| [07:35:00] | DGnome: | :o |
| [07:35:00] | dtm: | to restore it, i believe you'd do something not unlike this --> mysql mythconverg < mythconverg.sql |
| [07:35:00] | dtm: | WHAT |
| [07:35:00] | tetra: | do I need mysql installed on a box if I'm only using it for mythfrontend? |
| [07:35:00] | DGnome: | madness |
| [07:36:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: i ...think... there must be..... some.... ...... MISTAKE |
| [07:36:00] | SlicerDicer: | yeah and not the one that I was doing the backup on either :o |
| [07:36:00] | dtm: | tetra: no |
| [07:36:00] | SlicerDicer: | haha |
| [07:36:00] | dtm: | :-. |
| [07:36:00] | SlicerDicer: | I was controlling the computer over ssh |
| [07:37:00] | tetra: | i keep getting unable to connect to database errors and I have no idea why it started doing this on this one box |
| [07:38:00] | tetra: | it also says No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [07:39:00] | SlicerDicer: | this bites |
| [07:39:00] | SlicerDicer: | says no keyboard now lol |
| [07:41:00] | tetra: | what's QSQL? never heard of it |
| [07:42:00] | tetra: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [07:42:00] | tetra: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QPSQL7 |
| [07:42:00] | Agrajag-: | qt mysql driver |
| [07:42:00] | Agrajag-: | you need to install them |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer: | noooooooo |
| [07:43:00] | tetra: | uh |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | or maybe you're using mysql4 when it needs 3 |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: ? |
| [07:44:00] | tetra: | dtm: it used 4 before |
| [07:45:00] | tetra: | i'm trying to connect to a remote backend |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | ... i already told you.. you need the qt mysql stuff |
| [07:45:00] | tetra: | Agrajag-: don't see it anywhere |
| [07:45:00] | tetra: | what's the package called? |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | what distro? |
| [07:45:00] | tetra: | gentoo |
| [07:46:00] | ** Agrajag- vomits on gentoo ** | |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont know.. on debian/ubuntu it's libqt3-mt-mysql |
| [07:46:00] | tetra: | i never needed it before |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | there is no way your mythtv connected to mysql without it so i think you'll find you did |
| [07:47:00] | buu: | hahaha gentoo |
| [07:47:00] | tetra: | gentoo is just about the easiest distro to run |
| [07:47:00] | Agrajag-: | and stupidest |
| [07:48:00] | tetra: | and fastest |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | hahaha yeah |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | when you have to wait to compile everything |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | that'd be great |
| [07:48:00] | buu: | tetra: jajajaahahahahhaha |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | having to wait hours for stuff to compile so that it *might* run 0.2% faster |
| [07:48:00] | buu: | "easiest" |
| [07:48:00] | buu: | "fastest" |
| [07:48:00] | tetra: | yeah so it will run optimized for more than a 586 like other distros' binary packages |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | and quite possibly runs slower |
| [07:48:00] | buu: | tetra: You sound like those audiophile idiots who swear that a piece of tape makes their cds sound better. |
| [07:48:00] | tetra: | unless you have a 586, that's fine |
| [07:49:00] | Agrajag-: | tetra: do you *know* what these "optimisations" actually do? |
| [07:49:00] | buu: | Have you *tested* the speed differences? |
| [07:49:00] | buu: | Have you measured the time it took to compile? |
| [07:49:00] | tetra: | yeah basically, i'm trying to fix this mythtv problem |
| [07:49:00] | buu: | We'd rather mock gentoo |
| [07:49:00] | buu: | It's far more amusing |
| [07:50:00] | tetra: | you're a bunch of babies |
| [07:50:00] | Agrajag-: | hahaha |
| [07:50:00] | ** fatmatt mocks ** | |
| [07:50:00] | Agrajag-: | i already told you how to fix it |
| [07:50:00] | tetra: | yeah i'm trying to find out how to do that |
| [07:50:00] | tetra: | since i never needed to before |
| [07:50:00] | Agrajag-: | you're a genius.. i already told you, mythtv _doesn't work_ without it |
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| [07:51:00] | dtm: | and as it happens, i do have it on good authority that tetra is actually as a matter of fact, an idiot as buu claims. he holds the distinction of being the ONLY person banned from #mplayer. |
| [07:51:00] | dtm: | repeatedly. |
| [07:51:00] | Agrajag-: | hahaha |
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| [07:51:00] | dtm: | followed up by extensive personal insults to me for having done it and promising to repeat offenses. repeatedly. which, ironically, his behavior had already made impossible. |
| [07:52:00] | fatmatt: | given the issues I've had with mplayer and some of the things I've thought about it... I find it hard to believe that he'd be the only one banned ever |
| [07:52:00] | dtm: | unrepentant, blatant, contemptuous toward the community as a whole and to those who enforce the community's rights to not be abused. that's the benchmark that only a *TRUE* idiot can claim. |
| [07:53:00] | dtm: | fatmatt: well he's the only one in the approximately two years i've been there. |
| [07:54:00] | dtm: | <3 |
| [07:54:00] | ** dtm golf clap ** | |
| [07:54:00] | fatmatt: | what about cornflake? |
| [07:54:00] | dtm: | hmm that name only brings the vaguest familiarity. i dont remember anything about such a nick. |
| [07:55:00] | fatmatt: | I just did a /banlist there are 4 there |
| [07:55:00] | fatmatt: | maybe spam |
| [07:55:00] | fatmatt: | nm |
| [07:56:00] | dtm: | if there are any others, they're pure legacy |
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| [08:05:00] | Tsagadai: | ok guys anyone on who can answer questions? |
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| [08:06:00] | Agrajag-: | how are we supposed to know if we can answer them unless we know what they are? |
| [08:06:00] | Tsagadai: | oh i was just wondering whether anyone was active |
| [08:06:00] | Agrajag-: | ask the question, if someone knows and is active, they'll answer |
| [08:06:00] | Tsagadai: | im getting a cannot connect to database error when i try to run mythtv-setup |
| [08:07:00] | Agrajag-: | paste the error http://pastebin.ca/ |
| [08:11:00] | Tsagadai: | im pretty sure that just posted it |
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| [08:11:00] | UBL: | Tsagadai, is your backend and frontend on same box? |
| [08:11:00] | chuckyp: | Thats odd search of myth yields no results |
| [08:12:00] | chuckyp: | On channels list |
| [08:12:00] | Tsagadai: | I dont think so because i haven't got past that setup window |
| [08:13:00] | Tsagadai: | i was hoping to have back and front on the same box |
| [08:13:00] | Tsagadai: | http://pastebin.ca/40836 < the url of the error |
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| [08:14:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, What problem are you having? |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer: | dtm: my usb hub decided to go crazy at the same time I did the SQL backup haha |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer: | it was just bad timing :) |
| [08:15:00] | Tsagadai: | an error in mythtv-setup (http://pastebin.ca/40836) |
| [08:15:00] | DGnome: | SlicerDicer: ouch :) |
| [08:16:00] | SlicerDicer: | yer |
| [08:16:00] | chuckyp: | The url is either extremely slow or broken. |
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| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer: | send in the clone! |
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| [08:17:00] | Tsagadai: | how do i do that? |
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| [08:17:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: noted |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well my main machine is bak :) |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that sucked |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I about lost my mind cause this was brand new mobo haha |
| [08:18:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, do you have a db created? Set up properly for mythtv? |
| [08:19:00] | Tsagadai: | i honestly wouldn't know, i'm basically a complete noob to mythtv and mysql ive been reading off a guide http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php |
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| [08:22:00] | beau: | hey |
| [08:22:00] | beau: | is anyone in this channel using a soundblaster audigy with mythtv? |
| [08:23:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, it sounds to me like mythtv-setup is unable to connect to the database. Did you install mysql server? |
| [08:23:00] | Tsagadai: | sure did |
| [08:24:00] | Tsagadai: | its definately running too |
| [08:24:00] | chuckyp: | mysqld is running? |
| [08:24:00] | chuckyp: | Did you create a root passwd for mysql or leave defaults with no pass. |
| [08:24:00] | chuckyp: | and do you have apache running? |
| [08:25:00] | Tsagadai: | apache is turned off |
| [08:25:00] | Tsagadai: | mysqld is running |
| [08:25:00] | Tsagadai: | ive got a root passwd for mysql set |
| [08:27:00] | chuckyp: | Okay then you need to enter user name and password in the mythtv-setup so it can access the database. |
| [08:28:00] | chuckyp: | Whatever username and password you are using for the sql db |
| [08:28:00] | UBL: | lol |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | no you don't. |
| [08:28:00] | Tsagadai: | still the same error |
| [08:28:00] | UBL: | i believe Tsagadai said he gets errors when tryign to run mythtv-setup |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | if you created the database with the mc.sql script, the default username/password are as given. |
| [08:29:00] | UBL: | Tsagadai, try the howto at the mythtv web site |
| [08:29:00] | chuckyp: | I don't believe he's using mc.sql not atleast on this walkthrouhg. |
| [08:29:00] | UBL: | not a 1 page guide ;) |
| [08:29:00] | chuckyp: | that he is using. |
| [08:29:00] | dtm: | SlicerDicer-: yes that reminds me; you'll have to create the proper mysql user first. and maybe the db; i dont know if that dump includes the db creation instruction. |
| [08:30:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, The other thing to try would be getting httpd/apache & php and install phpmyadmin may be easier for you to administer the database. |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dtm: already done that :) |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just was not sure how to back it up |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all my programs are on a seperate LVM I am just wiping the main system files and replacing it with 64bit |
| [08:32:00] | dtm: | k. |
| [08:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am backing up the important stuff right now heh |
| [08:32:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, you need to create a database and give it a user and pass that you then specify in mythtv setup. |
| [08:33:00] | chuckyp: | mythtv-setup will save its settings in that database. For some reason it sounds like its unable to do this. |
| [08:33:00] | chuckyp: | So either sqlserver isn't running, database is f'd, or user and pass is botched up. |
| [08:33:00] | chuckyp: | from what you are using. |
| [08:33:00] | Chutt: | chuckyp, why on earth would anyone need to create the database manually? |
| [08:34:00] | chuckyp: | He's using ubuntu. |
| [08:34:00] | Chutt: | and that means he can't use the standard db creation scripts? |
| [08:34:00] | chuckyp: | Is there a script to create it somewhere floating around I've always created it manually. |
| [08:34:00] | Chutt: | comes with the app |
| [08:34:00] | Chutt: | it's part of the instructions to install it |
| [08:34:00] | Tsagadai: | so php/apache should be installed? |
| [08:34:00] | Chutt: | not unless you want to use mythweb |
| [08:34:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, no, |
| [08:35:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, I was only offering that suggestion for ease in creating the db. But I guess there is a script as the others are stating that comes with mythtv. |
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| [08:36:00] | Tsagadai: | ok ive found that script now and im giving it a whirl |
| [08:37:00] | beau: | hey |
| [08:37:00] | beau: | anyone used audigy cards in mythtv? |
| [08:37:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, mysql < mc.sql |
| [08:37:00] | beau: | mine doesnt seem to want to work properly |
| [08:37:00] | chuckyp: | beau, what is it doing? |
| [08:38:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 You are using a debian based distro with ubuntu |
| [08:38:00] | chuckyp: | Follow the directions on that page. |
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| [08:40:00] | chuckyp: | Its gumby damn it not gum |
| [08:41:00] | Tsagadai: | ok thanks |
| [08:43:00] | Tsagadai: | "mysql < mc.sql " thats not working |
| [08:43:00] | Tsagadai: | cannot find file :( |
| [08:44:00] | chuckyp: | I thought you said you found the file? |
| [08:44:00] | chuckyp: | It should be in your docs directory. |
| [08:44:00] | Tsagadai: | no i found the command |
| [08:44:00] | chuckyp: | i.e. /usr/share/docs/mythtv-18.1/database/mc.sql |
| [08:44:00] | chuckyp: | something like that |
| [08:45:00] | chuckyp: | I have no idea how you installed mythtv other than apt-get and I have no idea where it would put that file on a debian distro. |
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| [08:46:00] | beau: | chuckyp: audio continuing when i exit, out of time audio and the line in is muted and everything |
| [08:47:00] | beau: | chuckyp: i was just wondering if its just these cards that have problems, i read somewhere about using AC97 settings and making it work |
| [08:47:00] | beau: | chuckyp: but im yet to find out how |
| [08:48:00] | chuckyp: | beau: I haven't heard anything like that. |
| [08:52:00] | mick: | hi, got a little problem with my joystick. I enable the mythtv interface control with it. The problem is : when I play games, and I get back to Mythtv interface, it seems to "replay" all keys pressed during the game... |
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| [08:56:00] | beau: | chuckyp: yea |
| [08:56:00] | mick: | Anyone experience this kind of problem ? |
| [08:56:00] | beau: | chuckyp: its a common myth problem, like audio continues when line in isnt muted, i think my mixing programs are messed up or something |
| [09:00:00] | chuckyp: | mick, thats odd |
| [09:00:00] | chuckyp: | Tsagadai, Is it working now? |
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| [09:07:00] | mick: | chuckyp, that's annoying... |
| [09:10:00] | chuckyp: | mick, like it replays all the keys? |
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| [09:11:00] | mick: | something like that |
| [09:12:00] | chuckyp: | mick, is it wireless |
| [09:12:00] | mick: | it relaunch the game about 5–6 times, and then it does random things in mythtv, launching other games etc... |
| [09:12:00] | mick: | chuckyp, nop, usb |
| [09:13:00] | mick: | PSX gamepad |
| [09:13:00] | chuckyp: | mick, then the frontend is reading js events upon launching a game it sounds like. |
| [09:13:00] | chuckyp: | mick, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/160727 |
| [09:14:00] | mick: | ohhh, great |
| [09:16:00] | mick: | perhaps I should switch to last SVN version |
| [09:16:00] | mick: | thanks chuckyp |
| [09:16:00] | chuckyp: | np |
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| [09:43:00] | Freman: | damnit |
| [09:43:00] | Freman: | one of my tuners isn't working... now I have to wait an hour to diagnose it... |
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| [10:00:00] | eiggirC: | heh a recording has started right ? |
| [10:01:00] | Freman: | all three recordings started... but one is 0bytes |
| [10:01:00] | Freman: | the tuner that's responsible is the usb part of a DVico Dual HDTV tuner )c: |
| [10:02:00] | Freman: | dmesg isn't overly vocal about anything |
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| [10:36:00] | eiggirC: | Freman: sounds messy |
| [10:37:00] | eiggirC: | I have one PVR-150, and I have just been given a BT878 card. I dunno if I can add the new (non-hardware) one without screwing up the existing tuner |
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| [10:40:00] | juski: | mornin |
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| [10:46:00] | eiggirC: | juski: evening |
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| [10:52:00] | macin: | mornin |
| [10:53:00] | eiggirC: | time zones suck. |
| [10:53:00] | eiggirC: | its 7 minutes to midnight ere |
| [10:55:00] | juski: | way I feel today it might as well be nighttime now ;-) |
| [10:56:00] | eiggirC: | so go to bed |
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| [10:56:00] | macin: | are those dozen "QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range" messages okay if i'm setting up mythtv? |
| [10:56:00] | eiggirC: | g'ngiht all |
| [10:56:00] | macin: | n8 |
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| [10:58:00] | juski: | bah.. lost my ssh connection |
| [11:00:00] | macin: | phew, mythsetup works if i start with a new db but next time i start it (and answered those two questions to yes) the keyboard doesn't work anymore in the main menu. very weird... |
| [11:00:00] | macin: | any ideas? |
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| [11:28:00] | fatmatt: | macin: does the keyboad setup stop when you do the bit in the setup about xmltv setup? something about country? |
| [11:31:00] | macin: | fatmatt: hmm actually only after a restart of mythsetup or so |
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| [12:08:00] | macin: | BUG: StackedConfigurationGroup::raise(): unrecognized child 0 on setting QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range |
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| [12:09:00] | macin: | each time it try to setup my capture device mythsetup detects it but when i click finish it is listed as "0 00:00:00" |
| [12:09:00] | macin: | that seems to be faulty, no? |
| [12:11:00] | macin: | somehow mythfrontend/setup like to write zeros... each setting i confirm seems to be "0" afterwards. for example mythfrontend complains that it cannot find theme "0". |
| [12:13:00] | macin: | btw im on a gentoo system with a dvb-t a800 usb device running mythtv 0.18.1 |
| [12:14:00] | macin: | arg everything seems to be totally fucked up |
| [12:16:00] | macin: | should i be corcerned that mythsetup is initially doing dozens of Database Schema upgrades? |
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| [12:35:00] | juski: | just been doing a spot of sleuthing.. finding out how it'd be possible to add DVI-D to a TFT monitor which doesn't have the connector populated :) |
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| [12:36:00] | dtm: | macin: upgrades to what schema? |
| [12:36:00] | dtm: | macin: what version of mysql are you using |
| [12:37:00] | dtm: | it needs to be < 5 |
| [12:40:00] | macin: | dtm: 4.1.14 |
| [12:41:00] | macin: | dtm: im not sure what schema means. maybe the schema mythtv stores its preferences in the database? |
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| [12:46:00] | juski: | what is up with this server today? been dropping off like nobody's business |
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| [12:51:00] | juski: | oh, and I found a datasheet for the tv encoder on epia boards, so I'm gonna have a go at putting a _proper_ RGB output on it |
| [12:52:00] | juski: | none of this farting around with VGA adapter business.. and the bonus of doing it this way is that I'll be able to see the BIOS screens etc |
| [12:53:00] | bongobong: | I don't know if this is allowed here, but is anyone using the latest SVN with SASC? (BTW:nothing illegally, my sat-subscription is regularly paid) |
| [12:53:00] | juski: | what's SASC? |
| [12:54:00] | bongobong: | A SoftCam software. I'm using it to read my sat provider subscription card and watch encrypted TV in Myth |
| [12:55:00] | juski: | hmmm |
| [12:56:00] | juski: | talk of such things is frowned upon, whether you pay your subs or not |
| [12:57:00] | bongobong: | ok, no problem. Just to be clear and for future reference: I pay my subscription and have no intention of doing otherwise |
| [12:57:00] | juski: | makes a change to hear that ;-) |
| [12:58:00] | juski: | well if what you're using works now I don't see any reason why it wouldn't in SVN |
| [12:58:00] | juski: | apart from the DVB parts of myth that have been er.. rewritten |
| [12:58:00] | bongobong: | No, the problem is that the SVN version doesn't work with the latest SASC release, but only people actually using SASC could actually help |
| [12:59:00] | juski: | ah3 |
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| [13:00:00] | bongobong: | And anyway it is quite frustrating having to look in forums ridden with people looking for keys and a way to actually watch programs without paying when you just want to be able to better enjoy what you're paying for |
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| [13:01:00] | bongobong: | Thanks anyway, people. Bye! |
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| [13:05:00] | juski: | time to go.. busy busy busy |
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| [14:05:00] | GenghisKhan: | hello, i'm having problems with xvmc on a via unichrome chipset |
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| [14:09:00] | ivor: | GenghisKhan: such is life. |
| [14:10:00] | GenghisKhan: | ivor: it says XvMCWrapper: Could not open config file "XConfigDir/XvMCConfig". |
| [14:10:00] | GenghisKhan: | but /etc/X11/XvMCConfig exists on my system |
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| [14:11:00] | Merlin83b: | Permissions okay on the file? |
| [14:11:00] | GenghisKhan: | yes, 644 |
| [14:12:00] | GenghisKhan: | maybe it's an issue of packages. i'm using ubuntu breezy |
| [14:12:00] | Merlin83b: | No idea, sorry. |
| [14:13:00] | GenghisKhan: | i have libxvmc1 and libxvmc-dev from the distro and downloaded libxvmc from http://www.openchrome.org/snapshots/ubuntu/ |
| [14:13:00] | ivor: | as a last resort you could strace it and see where it's looking for the file |
| [14:14:00] | GenghisKhan: | i did a strace, and I searched for XvMC on it, but it seems that it doesn't open that file |
| [14:14:00] | ivor: | strace mythtv 2> logfile |
| [14:15:00] | ivor: | GenghisKhan: eh. |
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| [14:17:00] | GenghisKhan: | it's strange. maybe libXvMCW from ubuntu isn't working properly |
| [14:18:00] | ** ivor scratches head ** | |
| [14:18:00] | ivor: | is your xvmcw from breezy upto date? |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | tiem for a bug report, probably! to the bugmobile! |
| [14:19:00] | GenghisKhan: | yes, it is, but it seems that breezy doesn't support or doesn't ship viaxvmc |
| [14:20:00] | GenghisKhan: | i can try building xvmcw from mainstream. do i need the whole xorg tree to build xvmcw? |
| [14:22:00] | ivor: | no ubuntu chopped pre-modular x up into little pieces so building it is quite tricky. |
| [14:22:00] | GenghisKhan: | maybe build it from mainstream sources and then quick and dirty copy to install? |
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| [14:23:00] | laga: | maybe search for a backport? |
| [14:23:00] | GenghisKhan: | where? |
| [14:23:00] | ivor: | GenghisKhan: try putting it in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XvMCConfig |
| [14:23:00] | laga: | google? :) |
| [14:24:00] | GenghisKhan: | ivor: doesn't work |
| [14:25:00] | GenghisKhan: | laga: i find lots of stuff in google. i don't know what to install |
| [14:25:00] | ivor: | GenghisKhan: can you do: grep -a libXvMCW.so |
| [14:25:00] | laga: | can't help you much there |
| [14:25:00] | ivor: | oops. ahen |
| [14:25:00] | ivor: | I mean: "grep -a Config libXvMCW.so" |
| [14:25:00] | ivor: | :) |
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| [14:26:00] | GenghisKhan: | do you mean grep -a Config /usr/lib/libXvMCW.so? |
| [14:26:00] | ivor: | oh and ldd mythfrontend to confirm you have just one libXvMCW.so and myth is linked to the right one. |
| [14:27:00] | ivor: | GenghisKhan: yeah, wherever breezy has popped your library. |
| [14:27:00] | ivor: | thx |
| [14:29:00] | GenghisKhan: | output pasted on http://pastebin.ca/40860, i don't see anything special |
| [14:31:00] | ivor: | whoa that wrapper lib is screwed. that's never going to work. |
| [14:31:00] | GenghisKhan: | how can I install a good wrapper lib? |
| [14:31:00] | ivor: | hmm. you might get lucky if you put an "XConfigDir/XvMCConfigXvMC" file in the working directory you're running myth from. |
| [14:31:00] | ivor: | otherwise you need a new wrapper.... |
| [14:32:00] | ivor: | odd, noone else has this problem. strange. |
| [14:32:00] | GenghisKhan: | ivor: it worked, but now it gives another error |
| [14:33:00] | GenghisKhan: | _xmvc_create_context() returned incorrect data size! |
| [14:33:00] | GenghisKhan: | Expected 30, got 35 |
| [14:35:00] | GenghisKhan: | is it because i'm mixing openchrome's libviaxvmc with ubuntu's xorg? |
| [14:37:00] | ivor: | shouldnt be, because you've installed the openchrome xvmc and x driver over the top of the breezy one. |
| [14:37:00] | GenghisKhan: | no, i didn't :(. i didn't install x driver. letme test |
| [14:37:00] | ivor: | !!! :o |
| [14:37:00] | ivor: | \o/ |
| [14:39:00] | ivor: | and drm. you need to install drm. |
| [14:41:00] | GenghisKhan: | now I get Unable to create XvMC Blocks |
| [14:41:00] | GenghisKhan: | i have built and installed kernel 2.6.15.2. do i still need drm? |
| [14:44:00] | GenghisKhan: | i have via-drm loaded, but i get something strange when i run glxinfo |
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| [14:45:00] | GenghisKhan: | glxinfo output is at http://pastebin.ca/40862 |
| [14:45:00] | ivor: | I can't remember if 2.6.15.2 has an un-to-date drm module. you should be able to see from your X logs. |
| [14:46:00] | GenghisKhan: | i don't think i see that. what do i look for? |
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| [14:46:00] | ivor: | GenghisKhan: a message that your drm is out of date usually. |
| [14:47:00] | ivor: | re glxinfo, that's telling you you dont have 3d installed. |
| [14:47:00] | ivor: | which you dont. |
| [14:48:00] | ivor: | Please paste your Xorg log |
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| [14:50:00] | GenghisKhan: | http://pastebin.ca/40863 |
| [14:51:00] | GenghisKhan: | i don't need 3d libs for xvmc. do i? |
| [14:51:00] | ivor: | no |
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| [14:53:00] | ivor: | GenghisKhan: logfile looks fine. whats happening? |
| [14:54:00] | GenghisKhan: | i don't know. mythtv just says Unable to create XvMC Blocks |
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| [14:56:00] | ivor: | paste the mythlog. |
| [14:56:00] | jams: | ah the joys of xvmc |
| [14:58:00] | GenghisKhan: | http://pastebin.ca/40864 |
| [14:58:00] | ** ivor sticks tongue out at jams ** | |
| [14:58:00] | GenghisKhan: | i have to go. i'll be back in an hour |
| [14:58:00] | ivor: | >> XvMC found and using MC surface |
| [14:59:00] | ivor: | not using VIA VLD XvMC. your myth is built/configured wrong. |
| [15:03:00] | ** ivor hums to self. ** | |
| [15:04:00] | ** laga pats ivor ** | |
| [15:04:00] | ** ivor wags tail. ** | |
| [15:04:00] | ** laga gives weird look ** | |
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| [15:05:00] | ** ivor oh yeah it's not a tail is it.... eeeuw. ** | |
| [15:08:00] | ivor: | juski: lo |
| [15:09:00] | laga: | hi juski |
| [15:10:00] | Merlin83b: | Yeah, Hi dammit. |
| [15:11:00] | laga: | righto |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | hiyas |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | wasn't asleep – was working ;-) |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | laga: we've had a withdrawal – have you seen? :-( |
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| [15:13:00] | laga: | juski: yep. sad :/ |
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| [15:14:00] | juski: | my wife read the message & said "maybe he has a wife who doesn't like him spending too much time on the computer too" :-O |
| [15:14:00] | Merlin83b: | Heh |
| [15:14:00] | ** laga notes the 'too' ;) ** | |
| [15:14:00] | Tuomaz: | Hi everybody... |
| [15:14:00] | laga: | hi Tuomaz |
| [15:15:00] | juski: | apparently now even watching mythtv is classed as being in front of 'the' computer |
| [15:15:00] | Merlin83b: | lol |
| [15:15:00] | juski: | hi Tuomaz |
| [15:15:00] | Tuomaz: | Do I need to run some part of MythTV (backend, filldatabase etc) as root? |
| [15:15:00] | Merlin83b: | MythTV has made my gf spend more time with me in front of the TV so has been classed as a good thing. |
| [15:15:00] | laga: | Tuomaz: no. |
| [15:15:00] | juski: | whatever works :) |
| [15:15:00] | Tuomaz: | laga: creating a user mythtv with correct groups is the best approach? |
| [15:15:00] | laga: | Tuomaz: yep! |
| [15:15:00] | Tuomaz: | Thanx! |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | my gentoo box runs as root – is that a good or a bad thing? not gentoo... myth running as root? ;-) |
| [15:16:00] | Beirdo: | gentoo is a bad thing... :) |
| [15:16:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [15:16:00] | laga: | *shrug* running stuff as root is bad. ;) |
| [15:16:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | running stuff as root on an insecure machine is bad |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | well, i'm the admin here. |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | which is pretty much every machine in existance |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | right :) |
| [15:17:00] | juski: | it does that by default... the init script that the ebuild puts in does that |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | the ebuild is stupid then |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | I've run myth as root forever |
| [15:17:00] | juski: | & I dunno how to change it, and I've never looked |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | mythtv doesn't need to be root |
| [15:18:00] | ** laga is afraid that his backends run as root as well ** | |
| [15:18:00] | jams: | mine do |
| [15:18:00] | ivor: | juski: withdrawal... what are you talking about? |
| [15:18:00] | juski: | can't see the problem myself – it's behind a NAT firewall |
| [15:18:00] | Beirdo: | I know there's a potential security issue with running as root, but I'm confident in my own skills. |
| [15:18:00] | juski: | ivor: nothing you need to know about ;-) |
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| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | and as long as nobody else gets on there, I see no issue with taking risks |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | but I wouldn't suggest it for the weak at heart or the inexperienced admin |
| [15:19:00] | laga: | *shrug* i'm pretty safe in here :) |
| [15:19:00] | juski: | so why does the default installer do it if it's a 'bad thing' ? |
| [15:20:00] | juski: | I better ask whoever made the ebuild |
| [15:20:00] | laga: | well, it's not *that* bad, but it's not necessary. |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: juski's lookin for ya |
| [15:21:00] | ** ivor waves his handbag at juski ** | |
| [15:22:00] | Cardoe: | juski: hmm? |
| [15:22:00] | Beirdo: | he has an ebuild question re: mythtv :) |
| [15:23:00] | laga: | i think we scared him. |
| [15:23:00] | Beirdo: | wake up, juski, silly boy |
| [15:23:00] | juski: | Cardoe: just wondering why the default init script in gentoo for mythtv runs the backend as root... some peeps seem to think it's a ' |
| [15:23:00] | juski: | 'bad thing' |
| [15:23:00] | Cardoe: | it doesn't |
| [15:23:00] | Cardoe: | it runs it as mythtv |
| [15:23:00] | Cardoe: | the user |
| [15:23:00] | Cardoe: | it creates |
| [15:23:00] | Cardoe: | which some people complain about |
| [15:23:00] | Tuomaz: | Cardoe: it does not |
| [15:23:00] | juski: | ah |
| [15:23:00] | Cardoe: | because root doesn't get real time |
| [15:24:00] | Cardoe: | hmm |
| [15:24:00] | Tuomaz: | Look at /etc/con.d/mythbackend |
| [15:24:00] | Cardoe: | well the stable one might run as root |
| [15:24:00] | Cardoe: | with a conf option to run as another user |
| [15:24:00] | Cardoe: | the issue is that the other user you pick has to be in the audio,video groups |
| [15:24:00] | Tuomaz: | yep |
| [15:24:00] | Cardoe: | which is noted in the conf file |
| [15:24:00] | Cardoe: | yeah that's the stable version |
| [15:25:00] | juski: | the conf file the howto I followed didn't mention... |
| [15:25:00] | Cardoe: | That's stable so I'm not tinkering with it. |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | "stable" |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [15:25:00] | Cardoe: | Gentoo WIKI howto |
| [15:25:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: yeah.. "stable" exactly. |
| [15:25:00] | Tuomaz: | Cardoe: ~x86 mythtv have mythtv as default user? |
| [15:25:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: Have the crap out there I support the "stable" is just too old. |
| [15:25:00] | juski: | I wasn't having a dig – was just wondering. it works, I'm happy |
| [15:25:00] | Cardoe: | juski: just use the 0.19 snapshots |
| [15:26:00] | juski: | I use minimyth as my frontend & can't be bothered to build it myself yet |
| [15:26:00] | Cardoe: | Tuomaz: it might |
| [15:26:00] | Cardoe: | not 100% sure |
| [15:26:00] | Cardoe: | I've been busy with lots of other stuff lately. |
| [15:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh, what's her name? |
| [15:26:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: Jeanne |
| [15:26:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [15:26:00] | Beirdo: | I know the symptoms :) |
| [15:27:00] | Cardoe: | haha |
| [15:27:00] | Cardoe: | you called me out on it. |
| [15:27:00] | Beirdo: | hey, I'm not one to talk |
| [15:27:00] | Cardoe: | but I did admit to it a few weeks ago |
| [15:27:00] | Cardoe: | when I told kormoc I was working on a new ebuild |
| [15:27:00] | Cardoe: | but was taking girl out to dinner that night first |
| [15:27:00] | Beirdo: | I'm just over 3 months shy of making it an official permanent arrangement... |
| [15:27:00] | Cardoe: | and when we got back I'd work on it. |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | nothing wrong with it, Cardoe :) |
| [15:28:00] | Cardoe: | nope |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | computers are a great diversion, but a woman will trump them every time for most of us |
| [15:28:00] | Cardoe: | I still haven't worked on it though |
| [15:29:00] | Cardoe: | She thinks this "nerdy" thing is cute. |
| [15:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:29:00] | Beirdo: | I'm a geek, and I'm proud of it |
| [15:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:29:00] | Merlin83b: | We like to call that "a keeper", Cardoe ;-) |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | she's probably just glad that you get distracted by it :) |
| [15:30:00] | Beirdo: | my soon-to-be-wife is almost as geeky as I am, but she's still in denial :) |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | we are both Solaris admins by profession after all |
| [15:31:00] | laga: | long coding nights in front of the fireplace? ;) |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | now that would rule |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | once my DSL gets unfucked, I have some more testing I can do on my bot |
| [15:32:00] | laga: | there's other stuff to do, though. ;) |
| [15:32:00] | Beirdo: | well, DUH |
| [15:32:00] | Beirdo: | but with no internet, no phone (last few days), I had TV and coding... |
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| [15:32:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:32:00] | Tuomaz: | Thanx for the info and bye |
| [15:32:00] | Beirdo: | and the cellphone |
| [15:32:00] | ** Beirdo burps ** | |
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| [15:32:00] | Beirdo: | mmm, coffee |
| [15:33:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, I wonder if I should go get those pictures now... Sun will be here over lunch |
| [15:33:00] | Beirdo: | ;) |
| [15:34:00] | laga: | pictures? |
| [15:34:00] | ** laga feels lost ** | |
| [15:34:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [15:34:00] | Beirdo: | pictures from her visit up here.. they should be ready to pick up... |
| [15:35:00] | Beirdo: | well, negatives and slides that I will need to scan |
| [15:35:00] | laga: | oh, ok |
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| [15:35:00] | ** laga just lets the GF put everything on a website ** | |
| [15:35:00] | laga: | that's less work for me ;) |
| [15:35:00] | Beirdo: | well, she put all her digital pics up |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | but I have a pile of film ones too |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | we both enjoy taking pictures |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe film cameras, how quaint :) |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | hey, I like film, you get a better shot often (once you know what you are doing) |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | as you have to think about what you are doing, as there's no instant feedback |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I put all my photos up, only time I get prints is for grandparents and such |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, I never get prints |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | The newer digital camers are just incredible for both price and photo quality |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | I do development only for negatives, and I do get them to mount any slides |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | and then use the film scanner :) |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | yes, they are quite good |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | but I still like film |
| [15:38:00] | Beirdo: | I think having learned with film tends to make a better photographer in general |
| [15:38:00] | Beirdo: | learning how to compose shots, etc |
| [15:38:00] | ** laga is a crappy photographer ** | |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's where digital SLR and suck come into play. |
| [15:38:00] | Beirdo: | correction... having learned with a film SLR |
| [15:38:00] | laga: | and that's likely never going to change :) |
| [15:39:00] | Beirdo: | digital SLRs *still* lend to the "just take lots of pictures, some will turn out" problem |
| [15:39:00] | Beirdo: | whereas, when I shoot with film, I can shoot like 400 shots and throw out maybe 10 |
| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hehe and professional photographers often take 400 and throw out 399 :) Expect for carefully setup shots :) |
| [15:40:00] | Beirdo: | comes with practise, I guess, but many people who learn with digital tend to get careless with their shooting |
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| [15:40:00] | Beirdo: | from what I've seen anyways |
| [15:40:00] | Beirdo: | oh, if I were doing professional, I'd want a top-end digital |
| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | As long as you produce what you need in the same time frame, I don't see that as a negative :) |
| [15:41:00] | Beirdo: | as then you can see if you screwed it up |
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| [15:41:00] | Beirdo: | but for personal shooting, I still like film :) |
| [15:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:41:00] | Beirdo: | I know, I'm a geek |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | some of the guys here at my office spend crazy money on their cameras |
| [15:41:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [15:42:00] | Merlin83b: | Film++ |
| [15:42:00] | Merlin83b: | Used to be, anyway :-) |
| [15:42:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'll be back in a few minutes, gonna go pick up the negs and slides |
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| [15:42:00] | Merlin83b: | I haven't shot 35mm for a serious amount of time. |
| [15:42:00] | Beirdo: | got a meeting at lunch, so I can't go them |
| [15:42:00] | Beirdo: | then. |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | The guy sitting next to me spent like $20k on his, excluding other lenses and accessories |
| [15:42:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [15:42:00] | Merlin83b: | Blimey. |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm more than happy with a$500 camera :) |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | all I care about is a waterproof enclosure, and good battery life |
| [15:43:00] | laga: | and..picture quality, maybe? :) |
| [15:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: to a point, but these days $500 gets incredible picture quality |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | yep, i'd hope so ;) |
| [15:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | far more than I am worried about |
| [15:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll be replacing my camera soon |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | hmm, geek toys. *drool* |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | mine is getting old, and starting to show the wear and age :) |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | sounds like a great reason for a divorce as well |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | dammit, i'm in a bad mood today :) |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:46:00] | juski: | not notched up that 1000th post yet? |
| [15:46:00] | juski: | make it special – yell at a noob |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | juski: i did, unintentionally. now i got to wait for #1100 to tell them to fsck off :) |
| [15:47:00] | juski: | I walked out of here yesterday. had some explaining to do this morning |
| [15:47:00] | laga: | huh? what did you do? |
| [15:47:00] | juski: | got pissed off & went home |
| [15:47:00] | laga: | haha, nice |
| [15:48:00] | Merlin83b: | I need a new camera – I kind of broke my by catapulting it at the floor through efficient use of the wrist strap. |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | i got pissed off when i came home today as well. people tend to park their cars at thend of the road so you can't turn anymore. i was actually thinking about taking a hammer and...but lunch distracted me then ;) |
| [15:48:00] | juski: | lunch – the great saver of window glass ;-) |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | yep. :) |
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| [15:49:00] | juski: | never mind a new camera – I need a new employer before I have a breakdown |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | next time, i'm just gonna put a note under the guy's screen wipers, that might be better ;) |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | ugh, employment. that'd be nice :) |
| [15:50:00] | juski: | it's said that it's much easier to find a job if you already have one, so I'll do my best to stay in this one for the time being |
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| [15:50:00] | laga: | yep. just send out a few applications |
| [15:53:00] | sjors: | hello, i can't record anything anymore. LiveTV does work, but when trying to schedule a recording, the recording is listed in the recording scheme, but will not be scheduled. How do I fix this? |
| [15:53:00] | juski: | schmoke time |
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| [16:02:00] | Pitchin_uk: | what is myth link and how do i get it?? |
| [16:05:00] | sjors: | anyone? |
| [16:06:00] | laga: | sjors: make sure your card is connected to your video source (mythtv-setup) |
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| [16:09:00] | sjors: | laga: checked, settings are correct |
| [16:13:00] | GenghisKhan: | hello, i'm back |
| [16:13:00] | laga: | sjors: well, i'm not sure where to look then. you sure it'S not mentioned in the docs somewhere? |
| [16:14:00] | GenghisKhan: | ivor: what do i need to build mythtv with VIA VLD support. it showed up as no in the ./configure |
| [16:15:00] | sjors: | laga: I've been searching the docs for over an hour now, but I only found other people with the same problem, no solution |
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| [16:17:00] | juski: | Pitchin_uk: mythlink – google for it... the 3rd or 4th hit is the one you want. mythlink makes symbolic links to your recordings and gives them nice, readable names |
| [16:20:00] | GenghisKhan: | ivor: never mind. i just added it to the ./configure and now it's building :) |
| [16:22:00] | sjors: | I guess I'll have to reconfigure the whole thing :S |
| [16:23:00] | laga: | sjors: yep, that can happen. sometimes, you break something but cannot find out what's wrong :/ |
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| [16:25:00] | sjors: | Oh well, the good thing is that I'm getting faster and faster :) |
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| [16:27:00] | tevee: | hi |
| [16:27:00] | tevee: | how can i test if my current tv card in my system is detected by linux? |
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| [16:31:00] | Pitchin_uk: | juski: cheers. ive found a site with the code as a txt file is this what i need?? |
| [16:32:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Also i have my apache working but i cant seem to get mythweb working |
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| [16:35:00] | Pitchin_uk: | I get what appears to be a php error |
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| [16:48:00] | sjors: | what's the error Pitchin_uk? |
| [16:50:00] | laga: | juski: http://jmeyer.us/ (jams' website) |
| [16:51:00] | Pitchin_uk: | sjors: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: session_name() in /srv/www/htdocs/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 48 |
| [16:52:00] | jams: | time to jump on a conf call. |
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| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | and I have a meeting with a Sun rep ;) |
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| [16:55:00] | sjors: | did you compile php with session support (it's a module in php4 I believe) |
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| [16:57:00] | Pitchin_uk: | im guessing not |
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| [17:02:00] | Pitchin_uk: | Sjors: im runing suse – I used the rpms |
| [17:04:00] | sjors: | the session support for php4 is in the list in yast |
| [17:05:00] | sjors: | just a guess: yast -i php4_session |
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| [17:15:00] | juski: | gardengnome: not gardenKDE? ;-) btw... thanks for the link to the defunct stuff |
| [17:18:00] | gardengnome: | juski: defunct? works fine here. |
| [17:19:00] | juski: | defunct as in the project is now deprecated ;-) |
| [17:20:00] | juski: | wonder if they're up to much.. never liked the look of the screenshots |
| [17:20:00] | gardengnome: | oh, ok :) |
| [17:20:00] | gardengnome: | well, try the themes, they're awesome |
| [17:21:00] | juski: | I still find it hard to accept that any theme other than my own is awesome... that bites |
| [17:21:00] | jams: | heh |
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| [17:27:00] | juski: | sometimes wish I'd never made grayhem.. pride is a horrible thing |
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| [17:33:00] | sjors: | laga: FYI: I had made a dump before the problem occurred. I stopped the backend, dropped the database and restored the backup |
| [17:38:00] | mlehrer: | ok i feel silly here for not being able to figure this out, but i am trying to set up a front end to connect to a machine that is the back end & mysql |
| [17:38:00] | mlehrer: | i figured out the mysql part but how do I set the backend ip address? |
| [17:39:00] | mlehrer: | there are no config files in /etc/mythtv |
| [17:39:00] | mlehrer: | i also figured out the nfs part for the media |
| [17:39:00] | mlehrer: | that's easy |
| [17:39:00] | mlehrer: | do i need the mythtv-backend package to be installed, even if I don't start it up on the front end? |
| [17:39:00] | mlehrer: | that is the package that contains mythtv-setup |
| [17:40:00] | juski: | made a dump? that's a bit too much information |
| [17:40:00] | mlehrer: | heh |
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| [17:41:00] | sjors: | mysqldump |
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| [17:48:00] | ** xris REALLY likes ubuntu's method of dealing with lirc.... compile the modules yourself, with cryptic instructions. bleck ** | |
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| [17:49:00] | juski: | serial lirc will be even more fun ;-) |
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| [17:56:00] | mlehrer: | so is anyone here familiar with using a frontend & backend on different boxes? i got the mysql & backend ip's set up correctly and the frontend thinks it is connecting to the backend. however, I get this when I pick a channel: |
| [17:56:00] | mlehrer: | 2006-02–09 10:52:11.535 RemoteFile::openSocket(control socket): Could not connect to server "" @ port -1 |
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| [17:58:00] | mlehrer: | the frontend that is installed on the backend box works perfectly |
| [18:00:00] | xris: | juski: well, thankfully ubuntu is just my work machine |
| [18:00:00] | xris: | wanted to test out irrecord with this microsoft keyboard.. looks like maybe I can get it to work |
| [18:03:00] | mlehrer: | lirc is about as much fun as a flaming bag of doggie poop |
| [18:04:00] | mlehrer: | why isn't it part of the linus kernel yet |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | mlehrer: I agree completely. which is why I'd rather sell this keyboard... but it's so cool that *if* I could get it working in linux, it'd be totally worth it. |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | friggin' microsoft with their keboard-that's-not-a-keyboard |
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| [18:09:00] | juski: | hmm syth is quite nice |
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| [18:15:00] | juski: | now, how would one get back into the setup menu in Midnight? |
| [18:17:00] | juski: | 'you don't' is not the answer I was looking for... |
| [18:17:00] | juski: | minimalist-wide does that too |
| [18:18:00] | jams: | juski- try pgup or pgdwn |
| [18:18:00] | jams: | the themes are not meant to handle more then 6 options. |
| [18:18:00] | juski: | pgup & pgdwn are no good for me – not got enough buttons on my remote for them |
| [18:19:00] | juski: | overall I think those 2 themes are stylish :) |
| [18:20:00] | juski: | the watermarks & icons aren't to my taste but I love the menu graphics |
| [18:20:00] | jams: | yeah that's one of the reasons I cant stand horizontal themes |
| [18:20:00] | juski: | jams: wouldn't be a problem if the ui could do horizontal scrolling / shuffling ;-) |
| [18:21:00] | jams: | The idea was to keep the focus on the center icon, but myth doesn't allow that |
| [18:21:00] | juski: | well, while the UI is being respin, it'd be a good time to get suggestions in |
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| [18:21:00] | kgbudz: | yo |
| [18:22:00] | juski: | who's gonna program the opengl animations? ;-) |
| [18:22:00] | kgbudz: | anyone know where in the db to find the length of a recording |
| [18:22:00] | juski: | stoptime-starttime |
| [18:22:00] | kgbudz: | you familiar with nuvexport or mpeg2cut |
| [18:23:00] | kgbudz: | trying to figure out this last frame param for mpeg2cut |
| [18:23:00] | juski: | can't help you there I'm afraid |
| [18:23:00] | juski: | been having a horrendous time getting mythburn to work, so er... |
| [18:23:00] | kgbudz: | how many frames a second is an mpeg2 recording off a pvr card? |
| [18:24:00] | kgbudz: | what are you trying to burn |
| [18:24:00] | juski: | depends |
| [18:24:00] | jams: | juski that suggestions has already been made |
| [18:24:00] | juski: | 30fps for NTSC (actually 29.97 or something) or 25fps for PAL |
| [18:24:00] | juski: | jams: cool.. just making sure it's covered ;-) |
| [18:25:00] | kgbudz: | like in the past, i found that sometimes things in myth dont work good |
| [18:25:00] | kgbudz: | and its best to create work arounds |
| [18:25:00] | kgbudz: | like ripping dvds |
| [18:26:00] | kgbudz: | i find its best just to copy the video_ts to the hd, then create a xine bash script in your video directory |
| [18:26:00] | kgbudz: | which will allow myth to play the dvd |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | I find xine plays back everything I throw at it juuuust fine thanks |
| [18:26:00] | kgbudz: | im sure something similar can be done for burning |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | "just works for me (tm)" |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | kgbudz: not quite |
| [18:26:00] | kgbudz: | im talking about ripping dvds |
| [18:27:00] | kgbudz: | myth does some unneeded work |
| [18:27:00] | kgbudz: | when all you need to do is copy the video_ts |
| [18:28:00] | juski: | burning is a whole kettle full of hacks |
| [18:28:00] | kgbudz: | dont you just copy files to the cdrom drive? |
| [18:28:00] | juski: | nope |
| [18:28:00] | juski: | authoring a DVD is a little bit more involved than that |
| [18:28:00] | kgbudz: | right, but putting the image/files onto a disc |
| [18:29:00] | kgbudz: | are you talking about the process of coming up with the files/image? |
| [18:29:00] | juski: | mythburn cuts the recordings, remuxes em.. makes menus.. then makes an ISO, then burns it to disc |
| [18:29:00] | kgbudz: | nice |
| [18:29:00] | juski: | parts of it rely on projectx, other parts rely on mjpegtools & imagemagick |
| [18:29:00] | kgbudz: | im actually working on a commercial cut script right now |
| [18:30:00] | kgbudz: | to export recordings |
| [18:30:00] | juski: | the parts relying on mjpegtools are holding me up because mjpegtools' mpeg2enc keeps segfaulting |
| [18:30:00] | kgbudz: | interesting |
| [18:30:00] | juski: | it's not specifically mythburn's fault |
| [18:30:00] | kgbudz: | what is mpeg2enc used for? |
| [18:31:00] | juski: | making an mpeg of a still frame from a menu screen |
| [18:31:00] | juski: | or an animated menu screen |
| [18:31:00] | kgbudz: | like i remember i was having problems once and it was cause i compile some binaries without 2gb file support |
| [18:31:00] | juski: | well whatever.. it's screwed & I'm about past caring. making your own DVDs can be fun, besides |
| [18:32:00] | kgbudz: | ya, im not one of those guys who has to do everything in myth |
| [18:32:00] | kgbudz: | i setup some user jobs to do stuff like exporting, moving, etc |
| [18:32:00] | juski: | anyway.. hometime (finally!!0 |
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| [18:44:00] | aVirulence: | hi all, I have a problem with the svn version of mythtv |
| [18:45:00] | kgbudz: | whats that? |
| [18:45:00] | aVirulence: | I only get static on both my tuners |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | let me be the first to congratulate you |
| [18:45:00] | kgbudz: | did you verify your tuner drivers aquire video correctly? |
| [18:46:00] | aVirulence: | they do aquire video, but I haven't tried tuning them since I didn't get the ivtv tuning thing. I added the correct frequencies in mythweb though |
| [18:47:00] | kgbudz: | is this the 1st time you are running myth |
| [18:47:00] | aVirulence: | no, it's not, it's just that I did a clean install for my OS and tried to setup myth 0.19 |
| [18:48:00] | kgbudz: | i would go back and verify your driver installation |
| [18:50:00] | aVirulence: | okay |
| [18:50:00] | aVirulence: | thanks |
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| [18:51:00] | ** Beirdo is in Friday afternoon smartass mode ** | |
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| [18:53:00] | aVirulence: | I found out what I did wrong. Someone told me I could enter the frequency in freqid in mythweb, but that didn't work, so I only got static |
| [18:54:00] | kgbudz: | ya, ive never heard of that |
| [18:54:00] | aVirulence: | actually it was my own fault, thanks anyways :) |
| [18:55:00] | aVirulence: | ah no, it works kgbudz, the frequency is much easier to input for me, but I had to put the frequency in khz instead of mhz |
| [18:55:00] | aVirulence: | bye :) |
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| [18:55:00] | kgbudz: | im still waiting for mythweb to support paginating the recordings page |
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| [18:56:00] | kgbudz: | i cant get mythweb to even display my recorded programs page anymore |
| [18:56:00] | kgbudz: | somewhere something is breaking |
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| [18:58:00] | kgbudz: | i guess thats what happens when you have close to 1000 recordings |
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| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | likely using too much memory in PHP and have to bump the limit |
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| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | in php.ini or .htaccess |
| [18:58:00] | kgbudz: | ya, but even if it did work |
| [18:58:00] | kgbudz: | thats way too much info for 1 page |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | mornin' Cardoe |
| [18:59:00] | kgbudz: | maybe like 50 recordings at a time is reasonable |
| [18:59:00] | Cardoe: | hey kormoc |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, getting a new snapshot soon? :P |
| [18:59:00] | Cardoe: | Just got a gtk+ patch that makes my system a bunch faster |
| [18:59:00] | Cardoe: | yay |
| [18:59:00] | Cardoe: | still needs some more work |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | yay! |
| [18:59:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [18:59:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: problem has been with latest Gnome, GTK, Cairo |
| [18:59:00] | Cardoe: | I can't run emerge |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | ooh? why? |
| [19:00:00] | Cardoe: | without my system grinding to a non-responsive halt. |
| [19:00:00] | Cardoe: | in fact anything in a terminal |
| [19:00:00] | Cardoe: | because the new code sucks |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | kgbudz: give xris a ticket, maybe he might look at supporting "50 at a time", etc |
| [19:00:00] | Cardoe: | they don't accel a bunch of paths |
| [19:00:00] | NHIwerx: | can mythrename be told not to use umlauts |
| [19:00:00] | NHIwerx: | those are undeleteable from mythweb |
| [19:00:00] | Cardoe: | Pentium M 1.8ghz w/ 768mb RAM |
| [19:00:00] | ** kormoc makes a note to fix up his page recording patch and submit it soonish... ** | |
| [19:00:00] | Cardoe: | should not be slower then a P3 600mhz w/ 256mb RAM on Windows XP |
| [19:00:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, wow, that's insane |
| [19:01:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: page recording? |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, for mythweb. |
| [19:01:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: switching work spaces took ~1.5–2.0 seconds |
| [19:01:00] | Cardoe: | It takes nearly 5 minutes for Cairo to open a PDF |
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| [19:01:00] | xris: | Beirdo: there's already a ticket in |
| [19:01:00] | kgbudz: | cool |
| [19:01:00] | Cardoe: | I can boot WinXP in VMWare and open it in VMWare before Cairo renders the PDF file |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | oh goodie :) |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, wow |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | I'm not going to do it unless someone gives me a good patch, though. |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | kgbudz: just don't use the "all recordings" filter... |
| [19:02:00] | kgbudz: | good patch? |
| [19:02:00] | kgbudz: | xris, i rarely do |
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| [19:39:00] | Tobbe: | Hi, I have a python script that launch either mplayer or xine depending on what kind of subtitles the movie I want to watch has. The problem is that when the movie is done focus isn't returned to mythtv. I have to manualy switch to MyhtTV so I can control it with my remote again. What can I do to solve that? |
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| [19:56:00] | laga: | Tobbe: are you running a window manager? |
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| [20:01:00] | Tobbe: | laga: yeah, I run what ever comes with Ubuntu Breezy |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | gnome, then. well, that *should* work then, but i never tried it. |
| [20:02:00] | Tobbe: | I always get confused. What part is the window manager? Gnome? |
| [20:02:00] | Tobbe: | right :) |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | Tobbe: does it work without your python script? |
| [20:02:00] | Tobbe: | yeah |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | Tobbe: actually, gnome is the desktop environment and the window manager is called metacity IMHO – but who cares :) |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | Tobbe: did you write the script? |
| [20:04:00] | Tobbe: | yes |
| [20:04:00] | Tobbe: | I did |
| [20:04:00] | Tobbe: | I'll post it somewhere, hold on |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | does it mess with some display settings? i wouldn't think so, though |
| [20:05:00] | Tobbe: | no, it doesn't |
| [20:05:00] | Tobbe: | it's very simple as it's my first ever python script... |
| [20:06:00] | mlehrer: | ok how do i tell mythtv to use the absolute worst quality (i.e. smallest file size) on a pvr250/350 |
| [20:06:00] | mlehrer: | i'm trying to watch my home tv at work and don't have a huge upload pipe |
| [20:06:00] | Tobbe: | laga: http://pastebin.ca/40897 |
| [20:07:00] | kormoc: | mlehrer, set the live tv bit rate to the lowest it will go, and set the res really low as well |
| [20:07:00] | mlehrer: | recording profiles eh |
| [20:07:00] | kormoc: | yup |
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| [20:09:00] | mlehrer: | cool thanks |
| [20:09:00] | laga: | Tobbe: i don't see anything obvious, sorry. try a different window manager, maybe fluxbox. that's the only advice i can give to you |
| [20:09:00] | mlehrer: | of course i found the section like 10 seconds after i posted my question |
| [20:11:00] | Tobbe: | laga: Ok, thanks |
| [20:14:00] | whyz_: | hey, this is a bit ivtv specific, but noone ever answers in #ivtv-dev.. so here it goes: |
| [20:14:00] | whyz_: | i'm trying to get ivtv-fb working. it worked flawlessly before, just upgraded to 0.4.2 |
| [20:14:00] | whyz_: | i get: FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb (/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1/ivtv/ivtv-fb.ko): Operation not permitted |
| [20:14:00] | whyz_: | dmesg gives me: ivtv-osd: ivtv_fb_card_id parameter is out of range (valid range: 0--1) |
| [20:14:00] | mlehrer: | at the lowest setting it is using 650 KB / sec |
| [20:14:00] | mlehrer: | 320x200, 1k video 64k audio |
| [20:15:00] | mlehrer: | is there a way to analyze the nuv file to see if the settings are actually being used |
| [20:15:00] | Arkkis: | kormoc, argh, the bug is still there |
| [20:16:00] | Arkkis: | for some reason mythbackend loses it's connection to db |
| [20:16:00] | Arkkis: | I'll prolly have to downgrade to mysql4 to fix this |
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| [20:23:00] | mlehrer: | ok it is 187KB when i use the smallest possible setting |
| [20:23:00] | mlehrer: | getting closer |
| [20:24:00] | mlehrer: | need to cut that in half though |
| [20:24:00] | mlehrer: | can you transcode live tv to another format? |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | nope :/ |
| [20:26:00] | mlehrer: | hmm that is unfortunate |
| [20:27:00] | mlehrer: | is it possible with scheduled recordings? |
| [20:27:00] | whyz_: | mlehrer, what are you trying to do? |
| [20:27:00] | laga: | you can transcode recordings on the fly with mythstreamtv, but that doesn't work for livetv |
| [20:27:00] | mlehrer: | whyz_: watch my home tv at work |
| [20:27:00] | whyz_: | mlehrer, that's easy |
| [20:27:00] | whyz_: | use vlc |
| [20:27:00] | whyz_: | i do that when i'm going to my parents house.. they don't have many channels |
| [20:27:00] | mlehrer: | so you cat /dev/video0 | mencoder ... > program.xvid |
| [20:27:00] | mlehrer: | or whatever |
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| [20:27:00] | mlehrer: | ? |
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| [20:28:00] | whyz_: | no.. vlc can transcode and stream on the fly |
| [20:28:00] | mlehrer: | you mean the videolan server? |
| [20:28:00] | mlehrer: | and rtsp? |
| [20:28:00] | whyz_: | no, vlc has all the functionality of vls (afaik) |
| [20:29:00] | mlehrer: | but how can vlc on one box talk to /dev/video0 on the server |
| [20:29:00] | whyz_: | pvr:// |
| [20:30:00] | mlehrer: | ok i'll consult google, thanks for the tip |
| [20:30:00] | whyz_: | mlehrer, i can help you if you want.. |
| [20:31:00] | whyz_: | quite easy actually |
| [20:31:00] | mlehrer: | whyz_: can you still pause, rewind, etc |
| [20:31:00] | whyz_: | mlehrer, that depends on what player your watching it with.. a stream is always a stream |
| [20:32:00] | mlehrer: | right, i may want to pause and go to a meeting, then come back in an hour & resume |
| [20:32:00] | whyz_: | ok. vlc (if you use that as a client) can dump the stream to disk .. that should do it for you |
| [20:32:00] | mlehrer: | assuming infinite ram & disk space |
| [20:33:00] | whyz_: | so, vlc both on the server and on the clientside |
| [20:33:00] | mlehrer: | but will it do that automatically by hitting the pause button, or do i have to screw around with files |
| [20:33:00] | whyz_: | you can tell it on startup to do so |
| [20:33:00] | mlehrer: | ah cool feature! |
| [20:33:00] | mlehrer: | too bad nobody in #videolan knew about it, 8^( |
| [20:34:00] | whyz_: | but, that's just what i have seen when messing around with the streaming options. i have never tried it myself. |
| [20:34:00] | mlehrer: | ok |
| [20:34:00] | whyz_: | so your milage may ofcourse vary.. but i'd say it's worth trying :) |
| [20:34:00] | mlehrer: | definitely, can you paste the cmd line you use on both ends? |
| [20:34:00] | whyz_: | sure |
| [20:40:00] | whyz_: | mlehrer, did you see my query? |
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| [20:40:00] | mlehrer: | whyz_: no |
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| [20:40:00] | whyz_: | heh. check it out then |
| [20:40:00] | mlehrer: | whyz_: i think you missed my private msg too |
| [20:40:00] | whyz_: | hmm |
| [20:40:00] | whyz_: | strange |
| [20:40:00] | piku: | hey guys, my mythfrontend is getting ridiculously high cpu load on latest nvidia drivers.. is this a known issue? |
| [20:40:00] | mlehrer: | i just sent another |
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| [20:41:00] | whyz_: | i can pastebin it i guess,, i'm not seeing any messages |
| [20:41:00] | mlehrer: | whyz_: weird! |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | anyone have experience with getting best quality out of a sis tv-out (asus pundit)? i wonder if i should set the overscan to max like i'd do on a nvidia card |
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| [20:41:00] | mlehrer: | whyz_: or email to mark@knm.org perhaps |
| [20:41:00] | whyz: | mlehrer, apparently i wasn't registered.. should work now |
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| [20:42:00] | mlehrer: | ah i am not registered either |
| [20:42:00] | mlehrer: | what is the process for that |
| [20:42:00] | mlehrer: | nm |
| [20:42:00] | mlehrer: | just a sec |
| [20:44:00] | psymin: | I've got a foolish noob question. There is a local channel that has an incorrect program listing on zap2it. The do have a somewhat accurate listing on their website. I assume that I could scrape the info from the site and insert it into the 'program' table and be up and running? |
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| [20:45:00] | piku: | yeah.. finally verified, very high mythfrontend cpu load on nvidia-driver 8178 and very low on 7667 |
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| [20:48:00] | piku: | yeah my problem is already reported in the forums |
| [20:49:00] | piku: | brb |
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| [20:57:00] | Juski: | laga: hiya :) Any idea who makes the TV encoder for the sis chip? |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | Juski: good question. it's either a chrontel or some thing called 'sis video bridge'. but i think i found good settings now – using 640x480 without any filtering |
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| [20:59:00] | Juski: | found a good page for you anyhow... you've probably seen it already, but: http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#25 |
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| [21:01:00] | Juski: | back to my mythtv :) |
| [21:01:00] | laga: | thanks :) |
| [21:03:00] | laga: | hehe. nice. the picture gets better if i lower the resolution :) |
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| [21:08:00] | mik3: | at low bitrates, low res is better – there's more bandwidth per pixel, as it were |
| [21:13:00] | psymin: | for the record, the answer to my previous question is 'yes' =] |
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| [21:18:00] | bmk789: | anyone know any drivers for this? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Searc . . . amp;NoMapp=0 |
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| [21:30:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [21:31:00] | ** topping pours a coke for Beirdo ** | |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | I think a large glass of vodka on ice would do well |
| [21:31:00] | ** laga adds half a bottle of rum ** | |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | hehe. great alcoholics think alike. :) |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | I am not an alcoholic. |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:32:00] | topping: | alcoholics go to meetings |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | I have at times been a drunk |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | hehe :) |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | yup. alcoholics go to meetings |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | and to be honest, I haven't had much to drink over the last year |
| [21:33:00] | topping: | hey, what versions are you guys running on your home systems? |
| [21:33:00] | topping: | 18.1? |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | postfix 2.2 |
| [21:33:00] | laga: | SVN. i update every two weeks or so |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | oh, of myth |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | SVN, but not updated in the last few weeks |
| [21:34:00] | topping: | laga: that's pretty stable? last time i played that game i got burned |
| [21:34:00] | laga: | topping: no problems here. core runs pretty stable |
| [21:34:00] | topping: | i'm mostly worried about the database |
| [21:34:00] | ** laga switches from oss emulation to native alsa to see if it helps playback ** | |
| [21:35:00] | laga: | topping: get a backup then :) |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | take a dump.. |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | mysqldump that is |
| [21:35:00] | mocker: | I wonder if a new myth will be released soon. |
| [21:35:00] | mocker: | Fedora has a faster release cycle. :) |
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| [21:38:00] | ** topping takes a deep breath and starts downloading svn ** | |
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| [21:41:00] | Gumby: | I've just installed mythtv on fc4 and I am getting no sound out of my pvr250. Anything in particular I might look into? Does anything in alsaconf need to be adjusted perhaps? |
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| [21:41:00] | mocker: | Gumby: By sound from your PVR250 you mean out of your soundcard, right? |
| [21:42:00] | mocker: | :) |
| [21:42:00] | psymin: | Gumby: Are you running your frontend and backend on the same machine? |
| [21:42:00] | Gumby: | psymin: yes |
| [21:43:00] | psymin: | Gumby: do you have /dev/dsp ? |
| [21:44:00] | Gumby: | dmesg > /dev/dsp works |
| [21:44:00] | psymin: | Gumby: I believe what mocker is saying, is that the 250 card doesn't need your soundcard configured in order to capture sound |
| [21:44:00] | Gumby: | well, if you can call that working.. but it produces sound |
| [21:45:00] | Gumby: | well, I get no sound in livetv and also no sound when watching the streamproduced by cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg in mplayer |
| [21:46:00] | psymin: | do you get sound when the inputs are hooked up to another video device .. like a tv or vcr .. etc? |
| [21:48:00] | psymin: | Gumby: Anyway .. I doubt its alsa =] |
| [21:49:00] | Gumby: | I dont have another device to test with. no outputs on tv and no vcr |
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| [21:57:00] | Gumby: | any other ideas? |
| [21:57:00] | ** Gumby is lost here. ** | |
| [21:57:00] | Gumby: | had no problems with it on a previous install |
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| [22:13:00] | andrer: | anyone here with a bt878 card? |
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| [22:16:00] | xris: | andrer: I have one you can have if you want it. heh. |
| [22:16:00] | topping: | wow, getting 'svn co' to run to completion is really difficult |
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| [22:16:00] | xris: | topping: huh? |
| [22:16:00] | topping: | it just seems to die partway through every time |
| [22:16:00] | topping: | must be my link, maybe my router |
| [22:17:00] | andrer: | xris: does it set up a MIXER on your linux box? are you able to change its volume outside tvtime or xawtv/etc? |
| [22:17:00] | laga: | what does it say? |
| [22:18:00] | xris: | andrer: mine spits audio out to an external port, which I plugged into my soundcard. that's how most work. |
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| [22:19:00] | andrer: | xris: yeah mine does that too, the problem I am having is that the audio volume is WAAY too low, and changing the " volume " on tvtime makes no difference (from 0 to 100) |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | andrer: dunno. never had any trouble with mine... I stopped using it a long time ago, though |
| [22:19:00] | laga: | well, bedtime for me :) |
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| [22:20:00] | andrer: | xris: do you load " tvaudio" module for bt878 cards? |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | andrer: like I said, I haven't used it in months. |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | but likely no. |
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| [22:21:00] | xris: | I can't really remember, though. fedora enabled it all automatically for me |
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| [22:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey xris what does it mean by DVB Signal Information |
| [22:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | There is no DVB signal quality data available to display. |
| [22:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that was not on my old system with my new AMD64 it showed up |
| [22:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am confused |
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| [22:30:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: no clue |
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| [22:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: alright |
| [22:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know wiether |
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| [22:31:00] | xris: | ooohhh... curling in HD. w00t. |
| [22:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nice xris |
| [22:33:00] | XZZzzY^_^YzzZZX is now known as Layer01 | |
| [22:34:00] | topping: | xris: what's curling? |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | topping: freakish scottish sport |
| [22:35:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: It's neat! |
| [22:35:00] | topping: | ha |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | throw a rock down a lane of ice and see how far it goes. |
| [22:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Kind of fun to watch. |
| [22:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Rock = 42lb stone. |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: it's apparently really fun to play.. weird to watch. |
| [22:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Sweepers have to guide the stone. |
| [22:36:00] | Krazylegz: | The concentration of the faces of the throwers.....amazing. |
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| [22:42:00] | Juski: | can't wait to see snooker in HD in place of the programmes I schedule to record ;-) |
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| [22:43:00] | meushi: | HDTV snooker... |
| [22:43:00] | ** meushi drools ** | |
| [22:45:00] | Juski: | ... or darts... or football for that matter. Watching soap opera & reality TV 'stars' beating each other to death with sticks... that's what I'd call a sport |
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| [22:55:00] | overseer: | has anyone done the necessary integration of their tivo (series 1) as a recording source for mythtv? |
| [22:56:00] | scopeuk: | feel free ;-) |
| [22:56:00] | Gumby: | Ive just ocmpiled ivtv following the ivtv howto and it doesnt seem like tveeprom gets created during the make && make install process. Would anyone have an idea why? |
| [22:58:00] | psymin: | Gumby: I've recently installed ivtv for a hauppauge 150 .. I'm not sure what you are referring to with 'tveeprom' but if it is the firmware .. I copied it off my driver disk. |
| [22:59:00] | Gumby: | psymin: tveeprom is a kernel module that from what I gather, is supposed to be created during the compiling of ivtv |
| [22:59:00] | Gumby: | except for some reason, mine doesnt get built |
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| [23:00:00] | overseer: | scopeuk: was that directed at me? |
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| [23:02:00] | Gumby: | man, I just did this all yesterday without any hickups. today, I cant seem to do anything |
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| [23:04:00] | scopeuk: | yup |
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| [23:05:00] | psymin: | Gumby: I guess you are right, I do have tveeprom built and running .. sorry |
| [23:06:00] | Gumby: | psymin: did you manually build ivtv? |
| [23:07:00] | psymin: | Gumby: I took the easy way 'emerge ivtv' I believe |
| [23:07:00] | Gumby: | hehe |
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| [23:16:00] | overseer: | scopeuk: what's the short list of hangups why nobody has turned the tivo tuner/mpeg stream into a capture source? |
| [23:19:00] | scopeuk: | ive no idea |
| [23:19:00] | scopeuk: | jsut be cool |
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| [23:22:00] | mlehrer: | is it possible for vlc to save the file that it is streaming |
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| [23:22:00] | mlehrer: | why not ask in the right channel, heh, sorry |
| [23:23:00] | dtm: | mlehrer: mplayer -dumpstream http://foo -dumpfile foo |
| [23:23:00] | dtm: | that's all i know. |
| [23:23:00] | dtm: | assuming there wasn't another container file you have to search first |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody seen Cardoe lately? |
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| [23:24:00] | scopeuk: | mlehrer yes it is |
| [23:26:00] | Cardoe: | nothing but us chickens here |
| [23:26:00] | rtsai: | xris: here? How do I turn on the "nodups" stuff in modules/tv/search.php? |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: I was wondering your the one who edits the gentoo mythtv wiki right? |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | rtsai: no clue |
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| [23:30:00] | overseer: | maybe I can use the mythtv scheduler to drive recording/metadata creation on a tivo (series 1)? |
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| [23:35:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: unfortunately no |
| [23:35:00] | Cardoe: | I've tried several times to organize it. |
| [23:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: ohh I thought you were |
| [23:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [23:36:00] | Cardoe: | but the problem with collective natures |
| [23:36:00] | Cardoe: | the idiot prevails |
| [23:36:00] | Cardoe: | never under estimate the stupidity of masses |
| [23:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: alot of good information got zapped from there :/ I noticed that |
| [23:36:00] | ** Cardoe nods. ** | |
| [23:36:00] | Cardoe: | Yeah. |
| [23:36:00] | mlehrer: | what does the "automatically transcode after recording" do? does that affect live tv, recordings, both, or neither |
| [23:36:00] | Cardoe: | Everytime I put up something that's dead on |
| [23:36:00] | Cardoe: | within a week... some moron will say "That's totally not true!" |
| [23:36:00] | Cardoe: | and delete it |
| [23:37:00] | Cardoe: | I've created that side menu |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean I cant get the information on how to get half the things working I did |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is there anyway to view the old version? |
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| [23:37:00] | Cardoe: | yeah hit history |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or did that get nuked? |
| [23:37:00] | Cardoe: | at the top |
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| [23:38:00] | dtm: | mlehrer: just recordings. neither? what else is there, content that your mythtv's content creation AI generates? |
| [23:39:00] | mlehrer: | dtm: just wanted to have all the options there |
| [23:40:00] | dtm: | mlehrer: in live tv, there's no endpoint, and it consists of a ringbuffer so that means it's totally volatile so there's nothing to archive. |
| [23:41:00] | dtm: | mlehrer: unless you scheduled it for recording, in which case it'll i guess probably cut the show out of the ringbuffer if the ringbuffer's big enough. or something. |
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| [23:41:00] | Yellow-Snow: | yes hd came in! |
| [23:43:00] | scottder: | Is there any advantage to setting up a second machine as a slave backend, with no tuner card in it? say for transcoding? |
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| [23:44:00] | mlehrer: | dtm: ok i'm playing with it now. i'm trying to use mythtv over a low bandwidth connection between frontend and backend – the lowest quality setting is not usable for live tv. i will see if recorded programs will work |
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| [23:45:00] | dtm: | mlehrer: wow .. interesting... why is it low bandwidth? |
| [23:45:00] | mlehrer: | backend at home, frontend is my desktop at work |
| [23:45:00] | rjune: | whow was looking for me? |
| [23:45:00] | dtm: | l o l |
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| [23:47:00] | mlehrer: | dtm: it definitely wasn't designed for this unfortunately |
| [23:48:00] | mlehrer: | if vlc had the ability to pause & rewind a stream, i wouldn't have to worry about this |
| [23:48:00] | dtm: | mlehrer: hehe |
| [23:49:00] | dtm: | mlehrer: what job is it where you can seriously watch tv |
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| [23:52:00] | scopeuk: | a good one ;-) |
| [23:53:00] | dtm: | ^_^ |
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| [23:56:00] | rtsai: | any DVB EIT users in here? |
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| [23:59:00] | xris: | rtsai: I can help tonight... some of my atsc channels are EIT |
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