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[00:06:00] casey_-: question: where do i configure the codes i want lircd to transmit?
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[00:07:00] casey_-: i used irrecord to record the remote and create a file
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[00:22:00] ShockValue: when i enable xvmc my OSD gets all interlaced and jittery looking... anyone know what causes this (and fix?)
[00:29:00] ip_goat_rodeo: My silverstone case FINALLY arrived yesterday after being on backorder for like a month ><
[00:29:00] ip_goat_rodeo: So new mythbox will FINALLY be up soon.
[00:30:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: are you around?
[00:30:00] xris: no
[00:30:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I found something interesting with transcoding I dont know if you have seen this or not but it caused a extreme fast encode but then it went beserk and killed the performance
[00:31:00] SlicerDicer-: my system became as fast as a snail once it went crazy
[00:31:00] ip_goat_rodeo: speaking of which, has anyone managed to make the remote that comes with the LC-14-M to work with lircd?
[00:31:00] SlicerDicer-: alright xris I will speak with you about it later :)
[00:31:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: ???
[00:31:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I figured that you said no so you were busy hehe
[00:32:00] xris: no, I said no I wasn't here...
[00:32:00] SlicerDicer-: anyway I dont know what purpose it served but I was messing with useflags with gentoo and transcode. I enabled the useflag lzo as it was a fast compression/decompression library I dont know what it had to do with transcode but it seems it gave me a good 25% increase in speed? At anyrate once I got to about 35% complete on the second pass all my buffers dumped and the time increased to finish transcoding by about 1.5 hours
[00:33:00] xris: hmm
[00:33:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: it was very interesting I will say that.. the video seemed to come out of a higher quality too not as pixelized at a low low bitrate
[00:33:00] xris: yeah, lzo shouldn't do anything like that
[00:33:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: it was weird
[00:34:00] SlicerDicer-: but before and after seem to speak otherwise so I have no idea...
[00:34:00] SlicerDicer-: and thats all I changed
[00:35:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I have also been reading about the hd-3000 card makers forums I found some pretty interesting information I am going to experiment with mencoder and compressing that video clip you sent me later today
[00:35:00] SlicerDicer-: although they were talking about audio/video being off
[00:36:00] SlicerDicer-: but it sounds promising anyway doing it to xvid mpeg4 so a 8gb file gets compressed down to 700mb or so they said but it takes some crazy amount of time like 6+ hours on a 2.4ghz Intel
[00:36:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: cool
[00:37:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I have removed lzo and am going to experiment with it on and off several times and see if I can replicate the speed increase by just that though and will report the findings back to you
[00:38:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: what is the TRT of an 8GB hd file?
[00:38:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: and what's the original codec? mpeg2?
[00:39:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: mpeg2 yeah I think let me doublecheck
[00:39:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: you're using an analog digitizer, right? not a stream copy?
[00:39:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: xris sent me a hdtv clip and I am experimenting with it hehe
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[00:40:00] SqWaw: oh
[00:40:00] SqWaw: emm
[00:40:00] SlicerDicer-: http://www.pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1 . . . t=xvid+mpeg4 dtm thats what I was looking at
[00:40:00] SqWaw: gee
[00:40:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: someone sent you an 8GB clip?
[00:41:00] SlicerDicer-: no dtm of course not
[00:41:00] SlicerDicer-: this is only a 380mb recording of some random thing on PBS
[00:42:00] dtm: ahahaaHAA HA AAAAAA 8000kbps
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[00:42:00] SlicerDicer-: ?
[00:42:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: that should be '-sws 9' if you have a clean source
[00:43:00] dtm: which uh i should HOPE that you do :)
[00:43:00] nasa: Anyone know how to watch video files stored on a data dvd?
[00:43:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: thats not the thread I was reading though that was just one of them
[00:43:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: i can give you some more options if you wanna multiply your encoding time by about 8 ;)
[00:43:00] Yellow-Snow: nasa just copy and paste the video over to the folder
[00:43:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: if you're going to drop the resolution and all that, then wha'ts the point of having hd?
[00:44:00] Yellow-Snow: mass movies!
[00:44:00] ** nasa hopes that not the only solution... He has 30+ dvds with videos burned on them... **
[00:44:00] dtm: not that i see any point in having it to begin with, unless digital cable just sucks
[00:44:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: it was a request that xris had for me to see if I could reduce the resolution :)
[00:44:00] dtm: where you're at
[00:44:00] Yellow-Snow: so he wont get caught w/ his porn
[00:44:00] dtm: :-.
[00:45:00] Yellow-Snow: you're trying to change the res of a movie?
[00:45:00] xris: dtm: because a lot of people record in HD, but want to encode to ipod or psp or sd avi or whatever with nuvexport.
[00:45:00] Yellow-Snow: best thing to do that is nero reencode
[00:45:00] Yellow-Snow: yea like i said ^^
[00:45:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: and there is your answer :)
[00:45:00] Yellow-Snow: i have a turtorial if u need it
[00:45:00] xris: Yellow-Snow: nero works in linux?
[00:45:00] kormoc: xris, nero linux
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[00:45:00] xris: kormoc: yes. but nero recode?
[00:46:00] dtm: Yellow-Snow: how is that just magically better than an existing mencoder command out of the blue?
[00:46:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: its a steaming pile though I dont like nero
[00:46:00] dtm: Yellow-Snow: or are you just saying that because you dont understand mencoder?
[00:46:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: does't help nuvexport, either.
[00:46:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: it crashes constantly its pretty unstable
[00:46:00] Yellow-Snow: guys im just saying that b/c i do it w/ my phone and from what i have read .. the best quality for little size is that program
[00:46:00] Yellow-Snow: and i love the results
[00:46:00] Yellow-Snow: so do what you wish.. i just know what i do
[00:46:00] dtm: Yellow-Snow: so you don't know.
[00:46:00] diamon: Is it reasonably easy to move my myth info from one system to another? I have to move my data from one HDD to another to set up LVS, and I was toying with updating from FC3 to FC4 while I was at it. Is moving a Myth system chock-full of pain or reasonably easy?
[00:46:00] dtm: ok
[00:47:00] kormoc: diamon, depends on your setup. I can move myth peice of cake, others have a hard time.
[00:47:00] dtm: diamon: i would expect it has nothing to do with myth and everything to do with mysql.
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[00:48:00] dtm: kormoc: why would they have a hard time? i haven't done it but i'd expect it's just a matter of a dump and restore of mysql, possibly with a little sed action to search and replace a hostname maybe.
[00:48:00] diamon: kormoc: Nothing special in my setup, the biggest difficulty would be installing the NVidia driver, which isn't a problem really. I mean, can I just copy/dump my DB and move my recordings over and it'll go, or will it take way more than that?
[00:48:00] kormoc: that should be all that's needed
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[00:48:00] kormoc: dtm, there's been people in here who have nuked their install somehow
[00:48:00] dtm: :-o
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[00:49:00] dtm: kormoc: from the source host's perspective, moving involves only reading.. how do they delete anything?  :)
[00:49:00] Juski: er... when they panic? ;-)
[00:49:00] diamon: So basically I should just try an install of FC4 and see if I can dump and restore the DB, then copy the recordings over?
[00:50:00] nasa: So there's no way to watch videos straight off of a burned dvd....
[00:50:00] kormoc: nasa, not a data dvd, no
[00:50:00] Juski: mythtv != xbmc ;-)
[00:50:00] nasa: diamon: if you are moving to a new harddrive – why not just dump everything over to the new drive?
[00:51:00] ** nasa wishes he knew what xbmc meant.. **
[00:51:00] Juski: nasa: google fer it
[00:51:00] diamon: nasa: I was thinking to upgrade the core install from FC3 to FC4 since I'd be moving data anyway, while the second 250Gb drive is free, not later when all 500 is full.  :)
[00:51:00] ip_goat_rodeo: I would suspect that the only major issue with updating would be a major-version number change in mysql and there were charset issues with your data.
[00:51:00] nasa: ahh....
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[00:51:00] ip_goat_rodeo: But I don't know what version numbers of mysql in each release on fedora
[00:53:00] nasa: I don't know how easy an upgrade is with Fedora (haven't used it), but if it's easy — I would upgrade the install and then dump it over
[00:55:00] diamon: Maybe I'll just clone the data over for now and shrink my oversized /boot and swap space (they're preposterous anyway, 10Gb /boot and 8Gb swap, don't ask me how) and keep it on one 250Gb for the day, and try it later.
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[00:58:00] dtm: nasa: it's easy but you gotta dump first
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[01:01:00] nasa: dtm: ok, sounds like a plan...
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[01:01:00] orville: i'm in a bit of a pickle
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[01:02:00] orville: i'm using ubuntu and it forces me to use and set up mythtv as a separate user.
[01:02:00] orville: how do i override this?
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[01:02:00] dtm: nasa: i upgraded from rh8 to fc1 by simply changin the version in /etc/yum.conf and maybe manually upgrading yum and/or rpm (don't recall whether i did that)
[01:03:00] dtm: nasa: and i did it while fully using all apps, and i rebooted at my leisure
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[01:03:00] orville: i had the same user setup in pclos, but if i had to do anythingsppecial to get it to happen i've long since forgotten now.
[01:04:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I got it shrinkin :)
[01:05:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: and not going wonky-color?
[01:05:00] SlicerDicer-: nay no wonkey
[01:05:00] SlicerDicer-: hang on
[01:05:00] orville: ping?
[01:05:00] SlicerDicer-: btw xris I have a video ipod so I am fully capable of testing :)
[01:05:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: cool. except the ipod exporter is ffmpeg, not transcode
[01:05:00] SlicerDicer-: I am using mencoder
[01:06:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: do you accept dcc?
[01:06:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: wouldn't do any good here.
[01:06:00] xris: wait until I get home in an hour or so
[01:06:00] SlicerDicer-: ok
[01:06:00] SlicerDicer-: I will just encode the entire thing then hehe
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[01:08:00] nasa: dtm: that does sound simple.
[01:09:00] orville: is what I'm typing not being seen or am I just being ignored?
[01:09:00] SlicerDicer-: ohhh noes my computer is having a heart attack lol
[01:09:00] SlicerDicer-: this encoding is being very mean to it haha
[01:10:00] Chris97b: orville, I see your typing, but can't help ya, sry :(
[01:10:00] orville: ah. just wanted to know if i could be seen.
[01:10:00] orville: I'll waitabit
[01:10:00] Yellow-Snow: whats a vcf?
[01:10:00] Yellow-Snow: vcd
[01:11:00] dtm: Yellow-Snow: look it up on http://videohelp.com
[01:12:00] Yellow-Snow: arg or just 3 words
[01:12:00] dtm: wtf
[01:13:00] dtm: a vcd is
[01:13:00] dtm: hows that, lazy ass?
[01:13:00] Chris97b: lol
[01:13:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[01:13:00] Yellow-Snow: =p
[01:14:00] squish102: has any1 done something really stupid like "apt-get install ffmpeg" on knopmyth before?
[01:14:00] dtm: squish102: what's stupid about that
[01:15:00] squish102: and now nuvexport has everything disabled :(
[01:15:00] dtm: [i haven't]
[01:15:00] Yellow-Snow: hm
[01:15:00] dtm: does ffmpeg not execute at all?
[01:15:00] Yellow-Snow: i think i locked up mythtv
[01:15:00] squish102: well WARNING: Dont do it
[01:15:00] dtm: or are there different options?
[01:15:00] dtm: i have seen mjpegtools change their command line options.
[01:15:00] dtm: between versions
[01:16:00] squish102: it works
[01:16:00] squish102: for vcd
[01:16:00] squish102: but xvid, divx etc are all diabled now
[01:17:00] squish102: well the problem was that -vtag was not supported in ffmpeg when executed from nuvexport
[01:17:00] squish102: so i thought "good idea to upgrade ffmpeg"
[01:18:00] squish102: now i only have 2,3,5,11 available, rest are diabled :(
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[01:19:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I compressed it down to 66mb :)
[01:19:00] dtm: squish102: can you not downgrade
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[01:19:00] dtm: squish102: you could at least manually acquire the dpkgs
[01:20:00] squish102: i'm new to deb.. i'll have to figure out how
[01:21:00] squish102: or maybe i should figure out mencoder
[01:21:00] dtm: squish102: it's all here http://smuckola.org/etc/sysadmin_cheat_sheets.html
[01:21:00] dtm: squish102: and i also know mencoder.
[01:21:00] squish102: what do other ppl use to convert from .nuv to xvid
[01:21:00] squish102: thanks dtm
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[01:22:00] dtm: here's a 2pass xvid mencoder
[01:22:00] dtm: mencoder -oac copy -vf lavcdeint,crop=704:464:8:8,scale=320:240 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts hq_ac:bitrate=800:chroma_me:max_bframes=3:min_iquant=1:max_iquant=31:min_pquant= 1:max_pquant=31:min_bquant=1:max_bquant=31:vhq=4:pass=1 -sws 2 ~/media/store/1008_20060126130000_20060126133000.nuv -o /tmp/1008_20060126130000_20060126133000.nuv.avi && mencoder -oac copy -vf lavcdeint,crop=704:464:8:8,scale=320:240 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts hq_ac:bitrate=800:chroma_me:max_
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[01:23:00] dtm: squish102: but you can use '-sws 9' if you have a clean (dvd quality and up) source
[01:23:00] dtm: squish102: and you can do infinite passes by simply incrementing 'pass='
[01:23:00] squish102: thanks.. gonna make a script out of that
[01:24:00] dtm: k
[01:24:00] squish102: after i figure out all the switches
[01:24:00] mattwj2005: here is a crazy question....
[01:24:00] diamon: Yeah, I'll play with that myself; I can't seem to make any usable DivX files, only craptastic explosions of color...
[01:24:00] Yellow-Snow: can someone help me out with my weird remote issue?
[01:24:00] mattwj2005: what shows do you guys like to watch? :P
[01:24:00] dtm: mattwj2005: stuff
[01:24:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: not bad
[01:25:00] squish102: dtm, my irc client cannot take that long paste
[01:25:00] Yellow-Snow: ok i reboot my computer... remote wont work.. type irw in shell and nothing.. reboot again.. and remote works.. type irw and it works.. why does sometimes it load and other times it wont?
[01:25:00] mattwj2005: I watch Stargate Atlantis, Stargate SG-1, and Battlestar
[01:26:00] diamon: I lost it after chroma_me:max_, myself.
[01:26:00] squish102: man i need to get an irc client that i know how to use
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[01:26:00] mattwj2005: squish have you tried gaim?
[01:26:00] squish102: sent it to me in pvt and i have no idea to reply in this client
[01:26:00] dtm: mencoder -oac copy -vf lavcdeint,crop=704:464:8:8,scale=320:240 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts hq_ac:bitrate=800:chroma_me:max_bframes=3:min_iquant=1:max_iquant=31:min_pquant= 1:max_pquant=31:min_bquant=1:max_bquant=31:vhq=4:pass=1 -sws 2 ~/media/store/1008_20060126130000_20060126133000.nuv -o /tmp/1008_20060126130000_20060126133000.nuv.avi
[01:26:00] dtm: && mencoder -oac copy -vf lavcdeint,crop=704:464:8:8,scale=320:240 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts hq_ac:bitrate=800:chroma_me:max_bframes=3:min_iquant=1:max_iquant=31:min_pquant= 1:max_pquant=31:min_bquant=1:max_bquant=31:vhq=4:pass=2 -sws 2 ~/media/store/1008_20060126130000_20060126133000.nuv -o /tmp/1008_20060126130000_20060126133000.nuv.avi
[01:26:00] xpis: squish102: wine mirc32.exe -- :P
[01:27:00] squish102: lol xpis
[01:27:00] kormoc: mattwj2005, my top ten is Simpsons (264), CSI (91), Family Guy (74), Twilight Zone (72), Daily Show (66), Futureama (59), Stargate (51), Mythbusters (48), Aqua Teen Hunger Force (46)
[01:27:00] dtm: you'll also want to know '-edlout' and '-edl' to cut out commercials
[01:27:00] squish102: i use irssi most of the time
[01:27:00] mattwj2005: I really like Family Guy too
[01:27:00] mattwj2005: :)
[01:27:00] xpis: Why not X-chat?
[01:28:00] kormoc: I've wasted 3237540 seconds watching tv via myth
[01:28:00] squish102: well this linux box that i irc off has no monitor or X for that matter
[01:28:00] xpis: squish102: Then you can use vnc.
[01:28:00] kormoc: squish102, bitchx
[01:28:00] diamon: I don't want to know how much time I've wasted, but it makes me happy, since I work 3rd-shift and hardly get to see anything good anymore.
[01:28:00] mattwj2005: hey here is a question for you.....
[01:28:00] Chris97b: "this box that I irc off"
[01:28:00] diamon: Myth just lurks patiently on my behalf, waiting to get anything I tell it to...
[01:29:00] Chris97b: that sounds vaugely obscene :)
[01:29:00] xpis: squish102: Or, the ultimate text-based irc client: ircii
[01:29:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: does 320x180 sound right for 16x9 ipod?
[01:29:00] mattwj2005: I have an old tv tuner analog......linux supports it I can tune it using xawtv
[01:29:00] mattwj2005: do you think mythtv will support it?
[01:30:00] dtm: mattwj2005: if v4l supports it then yes
[01:30:00] diamon: I glowingly suggest PVR-150/250/350/500 cards myself, the quality on mine is beautiful...
[01:30:00] Yellow-Snow: Can i put something in /etc/modules 2 times so make sure it loads? or will it load it 2x's?
[01:30:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: no, you shouldn't declare something twice.
[01:31:00] Yellow-Snow: ok b/c sometimes it boots up and other times my remote wont work
[01:31:00] Yellow-Snow: wondering if that would help
[01:31:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: If you need a load/unload hack, use /etc/rc.d/rc.local or something.
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[01:31:00] Chris97b: check the logs for any errors the next time it boots and doesn't work
[01:31:00] Yellow-Snow: ah it auto logs?
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[01:31:00] Chris97b: if it's a module issue, ought to show up in dmesg
[01:31:00] diamon: It should.
[01:32:00] Yellow-Snow: how do i check my logs? where is it located
[01:32:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: dmesg | less
[01:32:00] Yellow-Snow: got it
[01:32:00] Chris97b: [root@host /]# dmesg
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[01:32:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: I forget... what card are you using?
[01:32:00] Yellow-Snow: pvr-150
[01:33:00] Yellow-Snow: its weird.. works most of the time.. just sometimes it wont when i restart
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[01:33:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: How about on a hard reboot?
[01:33:00] Yellow-Snow: it all varies
[01:33:00] Yellow-Snow: sometimes if i unplug the ir and plug it in it works
[01:33:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: Does unloading and reloading teh module fix it?
[01:34:00] xpis: *the
[01:34:00] Yellow-Snow: never tried it
[01:34:00] diamon: Yellow: I had something similar, but mine (in FC3) didn't ever work after reboot. Turns out it wanted a /dev/lircd device and I only had /dev/lirc0 or something, so I symlinked it in rc.local.
[01:34:00] Yellow-Snow: i just keep rebooting and cross my fingers
[01:34:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: Hm.. if unplugging and replugging works, it's probably a connections issue.
[01:34:00] Yellow-Snow: hm but it it works.. it works till i reboot
[01:34:00] Yellow-Snow: and i don't touch another
[01:34:00] Yellow-Snow: anything
[01:35:00] Yellow-Snow: idk its not that major
[01:35:00] Yellow-Snow: just a stumper
[01:35:00] Yellow-Snow: time to see if im going to lock up mythtv again
[01:35:00] dtm: give a hoot. don't reboot.
[01:35:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: Is your device being registered as a keyboard device?
[01:36:00] Yellow-Snow: idk man.. im gana do dmesg | less next time it happens
[01:36:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: And, are you sure that you aren't unplugging a usb mouse, second keyboard, or something else in between reboots?
[01:36:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
[01:36:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: I honestly blew up a portion of my myth system hopefully I can repair it heh
[01:36:00] diamon: If it's that IR device that my PVR-150 has, I think it's an i2c device.
[01:36:00] Yellow-Snow: yea diamon
[01:36:00] Yellow-Snow: or lircd?
[01:36:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: Does the mouse attached to your computer always stay there?
[01:36:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
[01:37:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, ooh? whatcha do?
[01:37:00] SlicerDicer-: experimenting with transcoding and trying to speed it up
[01:37:00] SlicerDicer-: I keep killing my buffers to 0k haha
[01:37:00] diamon: Mmmm, transcoding...
[01:37:00] SlicerDicer-: I guess it was something else
[01:37:00] Yellow-Snow: well time to reboot.. locked up mythtv again
[01:37:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: Locked up? How?
[01:37:00] diamon: Yellow: Trying to use the ir dev?
[01:37:00] Yellow-Snow: tried to play this dvd
[01:37:00] diamon: Oh, dvd.
[01:37:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: mplayer?
[01:37:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
[01:38:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: What does mplayer and/or libdvdread say?
[01:38:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: you want quality and speed huh? you're gonna hafta sacrifice size then, if possible
[01:38:00] Yellow-Snow: idk i go to play dvd in mythtv and it just like reads the dvd for a second then stops
[01:38:00] diamon: Check the /var/log/messages file, maybe it's a bad DVD? I had a bad copy of the epic miniseries for Battlestar Galactica that locked up Myth. That's the only thing aside from my IR that has.
[01:38:00] xpis: (it may be a disc engineered to crash old versions of libdvdread to thwart copying)
[01:38:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: I am experimenting haha
[01:38:00] Yellow-Snow: im just trying to play it.. im gana see if the -slang and -alang cause it
[01:39:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: try to play it using mplayer dvd:// from xterm
[01:39:00] Yellow-Snow: aight
[01:39:00] Yellow-Snow: woot
[01:39:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: I am trying to find a middle area of speed quality and size :)
[01:39:00] Yellow-Snow: remote dosent work
[01:39:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: ls /dev/event
[01:39:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: Mem: 514072k total, 437224k used, 76848k free, 0k buffers
[01:39:00] SlicerDicer-: yay
[01:40:00] xpis: er.. /dev/input I mean
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[01:40:00] Yellow-Snow: ok im looking for an error right?
[01:40:00] xpis: no, you're looking for a device
[01:40:00] xpis: ls /dev/input
[01:41:00] Yellow-Snow: dmesg | less
[01:41:00] Yellow-Snow: from that?
[01:41:00] xpis: no, you type ls /dev/input at a command prompt
[01:41:00] Yellow-Snow: oh ok
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[01:41:00] xpis: tell me how many eventX devices are listed
[01:42:00] xpis: They will be event0, event1, etc
[01:42:00] Yellow-Snow: is command not found =\
[01:42:00] Yellow-Snow: Is ect
[01:42:00] Chris97b: LS
[01:42:00] xpis: rofl.. not is
[01:42:00] Yellow-Snow: oh
[01:42:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[01:43:00] xpis: ls, as in LiSt
[01:43:00] Yellow-Snow: event0 event 2 js0 js2 mice mouse 1 mouse 3
[01:43:00] Yellow-Snow: event1 event3 js1 js3 mouse0 mouse2
[01:43:00] xpis: no event1?
[01:43:00] xpis: so, event0, event1, event2, and event3, right?
[01:44:00] Yellow-Snow: yes not in that order tho
[01:44:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: the computer seems to function as normal with 0k buffers to some extent but half the stuff dont work thats whats worrying me
[01:44:00] xpis: What on earth is your 4th input device?
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[01:44:00] xpis: keyboard, mouse, remote... and...
[01:44:00] Yellow-Snow: hm
[01:44:00] Yellow-Snow: ethernet?
[01:44:00] Yellow-Snow: sounds?
[01:45:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, why disable the buffers?
[01:45:00] xpis: No
[01:45:00] xpis: A human interface device
[01:45:00] Yellow-Snow: xpis pvr-150 has ir and the cable box thing
[01:45:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: I did not it just explodes and the buffers vanish when trying to transcode something
[01:45:00] Yellow-Snow: not sure man thats all i have pluged in
[01:45:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: and the transcode either goes SLOW! or dies outright
[01:45:00] Kelerion: joystick?
[01:45:00] xpis: ir blaster shouldn't be an input device
[01:45:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: and then my computer gets rendered fubar haha
[01:46:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: Type cat /dev/input/event3
[01:46:00] Yellow-Snow: no such device
[01:46:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: like I was telling xris I was messing with useflags and put on lzo and it went crazy so I am fixing that right now heh
[01:46:00] xpis: Then cat /dev/input/event2
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[01:47:00] Yellow-Snow: went to the next line
[01:48:00] Yellow-Snow: and stoped
[01:48:00] Kelerion: press ctrl+c
[01:48:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[01:48:00] Yellow-Snow: now what
[01:48:00] xpis: Type the command again
[01:48:00] Kelerion: dunno.. just came into the conversation :)
[01:48:00] xpis: This time, don't press ctrl+c
[01:48:00] Yellow-Snow: aight
[01:49:00] ** Kelerion ducks **
[01:49:00] Yellow-Snow: same thing
[01:49:00] xpis: Now, press keys on your remomte
[01:49:00] Yellow-Snow: did
[01:49:00] Yellow-Snow: nothing showed
[01:49:00] xpis: Try multiple keys
[01:49:00] Yellow-Snow: i mashed
[01:49:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[01:49:00] xpis: ok.. then ctrl+c
[01:50:00] xpis: Now... are you physically at this computer now?
[01:50:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
[01:50:00] xpis: Hrm.. do that command again. See if that was your mouse.
[01:50:00] xpis: Type the command, move your mouse around, see if junk appears.
[01:50:00] Yellow-Snow: nope
[01:50:00] Kelerion: whats he trying to do?
[01:51:00] Yellow-Snow: the mouse wont work tho
[01:51:00] Yellow-Snow: n/m
[01:51:00] Yellow-Snow: it does
[01:51:00] xpis: He's trying to see if his remote is being registered as an input device.
[01:51:00] Kelerion: ah ok
[01:51:00] xpis: Do you get junk?
[01:51:00] Yellow-Snow: nope
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[01:52:00] xpis: Well, that's the problem. It seems the device is being registered, but it's just plain not working.
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[01:52:00] Yellow-Snow: nothing to do w/ software?
[01:52:00] Yellow-Snow: drivers ect
[01:52:00] xpis: type dmesg | grep event
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[01:53:00] sportman: hmm
[01:53:00] sportman: so anyone ever run myth tv backend
[01:53:00] sportman: on linespire?
[01:53:00] Yellow-Snow: did that
[01:53:00] xpis: sportman: everyone in the channel has run mythbackend
[01:53:00] sportman: on linespire
[01:53:00] sportman: :-p[
[01:53:00] Kelerion: linspire?
[01:53:00] xpis: sportman: What's linespire? Linspire?
[01:53:00] sportman: yea
[01:54:00] sportman: sorry typos
[01:54:00] Kelerion: nope
[01:54:00] xpis: sportman: Well, linspire is not free, so it hasn't been tested on it.
[01:54:00] Yellow-Snow: event1 is my mouse
[01:54:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: dmesg | grep event2
[01:54:00] Kelerion: never used it.. whats is based on? debian?
[01:54:00] SlicerDicer-: xpis: its a bit of a outlandish claim to say "everybody" ;-)
[01:54:00] Yellow-Snow: event 0 is my kb
[01:54:00] xpis: Yes, it's a hacked debian to use Create_New_Revenue packages.
[01:55:00] Kelerion: lol
[01:55:00] Yellow-Snow: did that
[01:55:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: developers, then. I haven't seen a single one run Linspire.
[01:55:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: (other than ones being paid or sponsered by said company)
[01:55:00] Kelerion: I've seen it.. wasn't impressed though.. ubuntu was better at what it's goals were
[01:56:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: any matches?
[01:56:00] Yellow-Snow: it just goes to the next line when i type that
[01:56:00] Yellow-Snow: back to root
[01:56:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: ok... try rmmodding and insmodding your ivtv driver.
[01:56:00] Yellow-Snow: way over my head
[01:57:00] xpis: sportman: what problems are you having on linspire?
[01:57:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: lsmod | grep ivtv
[01:57:00] Yellow-Snow: kk
[01:57:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: I keep forgetting how new you are to linux
[01:57:00] Yellow-Snow: thats good
[01:57:00] Yellow-Snow: im learning more and more
[01:58:00] Yellow-Snow: did that
[01:58:00] xpis: what output do you get/
[01:58:00] Yellow-Snow: ivtv 206228 5 lirc_pvr150
[01:58:00] xpis: ok, rmmod ivtv
[01:58:00] Yellow-Snow: i2c_algo_bit 10504 2 bttv,ivtv
[01:58:00] xpis: then, modprobe ivtv
[01:58:00] sportman: im not having problems xpis
[01:59:00] sportman: just wondering if people have done it
[01:59:00] sportman: lol
[01:59:00] Kelerion: whats bttv loaded for?
[01:59:00] Yellow-Snow: error module ivtv is in use by lirc_pvr150
[01:59:00] Kelerion: you have two cards installed?
[01:59:00] Yellow-Snow: nope just pvr and graphic card
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[01:59:00] xpis: sportman: Well, if you manage to get all the librarys installed and install gcc... it would probably work.
[01:59:00] Yellow-Snow: ethernet and sound
[01:59:00] xpis: *libraries
[02:00:00] sportman: ok
[02:00:00] sportman: kool
[02:00:00] xpis: sportman: Why linspire?
[02:00:00] sportman: cause that was the disk i had lying around
[02:00:00] sportman: lol
[02:00:00] sportman: but forget it
[02:00:00] sportman: the install messed up
[02:00:00] xpis: sportman: fedora.redhat.com
[02:00:00] sportman: ok,, so im going to isntall ubuntu
[02:00:00] sportman: :-p
[02:00:00] xpis: sportman: debian.org
[02:00:00] sportman: i dont want to download it
[02:00:00] sportman: lol
[02:00:00] sportman: i have downloaded too many distros
[02:01:00] sportman: how bout Ubuntu
[02:01:00] Kelerion: it's *1* disk! lol
[02:01:00] xpis: sportman: well, linspire lacks development tools. You're supposed to subscribe to "Click and Run" to download packages.
[02:01:00] Kelerion: ubuntu is I mean
[02:01:00] sportman: lol
[02:01:00] xpis: sportman: that will work fine. Any *real* distribution will work.
[02:02:00] Yellow-Snow: error module ivtv is in use by lirc_pvr150
[02:02:00] sportman: xpis: i have hacked linspire to use apt
[02:02:00] sportman: :-p
[02:02:00] xpis: rmmod lirc_lvr150 first
[02:02:00] sportman: but yea ubuntu it is
[02:02:00] xpis: sportman: good job
[02:03:00] Yellow-Snow: module lirc_pvr150 is in use
[02:03:00] xpis: sportman: have you managed to get kernel headers and various library headers from their GPL source tarballs though?
[02:03:00] Kelerion: linspire used apt anyways doesn't it? it's just setup to use linspires own repo's?
[02:03:00] sportman: pretty much
[02:03:00] sportman: i just messed with it
[02:03:00] sportman: and got synaptiic installed
[02:04:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: close mythtv, tvtime, or whatever else you are watching tv with.
[02:04:00] Yellow-Snow: mythtv is closed
[02:04:00] Yellow-Snow: tvtime idk what that is
[02:04:00] Yellow-Snow: if u want vnc its all set up
[02:04:00] xpis: Somehow the driver thinks the card is in use.
[02:05:00] Kelerion: lirc has it loaded
[02:05:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: vnc is insecure unless protected behind ssh. Don't leave it open to the world!
[02:05:00] Kelerion: either force it.. or remove lirc_pvr150 first
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[02:05:00] Yellow-Snow: i dont keep the port forwarded 247
[02:06:00] xpis: Kelerion: Doesn't lirc just use the input device already exported?
[02:07:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: lsmod | grep pvr150
[02:07:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[02:07:00] Kelerion: nope.. it's a whole new kernel module
[02:07:00] Yellow-Snow: lirc_pvr150
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[02:07:00] Yellow-Snow: lirc_dev
[02:07:00] Yellow-Snow: ivtv
[02:07:00] Yellow-Snow: i2c_core
[02:07:00] xpis: ok, then rmmod lirc_pvr150
[02:08:00] xpis: then rmmod ivtv_pvr150
[02:08:00] Yellow-Snow: error: module lirc_pvr150 is in use
[02:08:00] Kelerion: rmmod lirc_pvr150 ivtv lirc_dev
[02:09:00] Yellow-Snow: all in use
[02:09:00] xpis: Kill the cat you have on /dev/input/event2
[02:09:00] Yellow-Snow: ?
[02:09:00] xpis: Did you ctrl+c it?
[02:09:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[02:09:00] Yellow-Snow: way
[02:09:00] Yellow-Snow: long ago
[02:10:00] Kelerion: kill the cat? don't take it out on the cat! :P
[02:10:00] Yellow-Snow: thats what i thought
[02:10:00] Yellow-Snow: lol!
[02:10:00] xpis: lsmod | grep lirc
[02:11:00] Yellow-Snow: lirc_pvr150
[02:11:00] Yellow-Snow: lirc_dev
[02:11:00] xpis: Er... just force the removal. It's evident that they are mutually dependent
[02:11:00] Yellow-Snow: ivtv
[02:11:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
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[02:12:00] xpis: rmmod -f lirc_pvr150
[02:12:00] xpis: Then, see if rmmod ivtv_pvr150 will work
[02:12:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[02:12:00] Yellow-Snow: ivtv_pvr150 does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:13:00] Kelerion: what ivtv_pvr150? isn't it just ivtv?
[02:13:00] xpis: er.. yes
[02:13:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[02:14:00] Yellow-Snow: module ivtv is not in use
[02:14:00] xpis: is *not* in use?
[02:14:00] Yellow-Snow: er is
[02:14:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[02:14:00] Kelerion: I don't have a 150.. I don't know much about it.. I have a 250 so figure it's quite similar in it's setup
[02:14:00] Ryushin: Yellow-Snow: Sorry to just drop in and run, but I'll need to go in about 10 minutes. What distro are you using?
[02:14:00] sportman: u know what fuck it
[02:14:00] Yellow-Snow: knoppmyth
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[02:14:00] xpis: then rmmod -f ivtv. Then, just modprobe both modules.
[02:15:00] Kelerion: sportman: you having problems with ubuntu too?
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[02:15:00] Ryushin: How much linux do you know?
[02:15:00] Yellow-Snow: very little
[02:15:00] Yellow-Snow: how much have i learned? tons in the past couple of days
[02:15:00] sportman: Kelerion: my disk is damaged
[02:15:00] Yellow-Snow: still blow at it tho
[02:15:00] kahuna_: ubuntu is nice but I've had lots of little problems with it
[02:15:00] sportman: yea, i had tons of problems
[02:15:00] Yellow-Snow: modprobe both modules?
[02:15:00] sportman: trying to get myth work
[02:15:00] sportman: thats why im going to do fedora
[02:16:00] xpis: sportman: fedora core 5 will be out before too long.
[02:16:00] sportman: just going to be a while to download
[02:16:00] kahuna_: I use gentoo on my myth box.
[02:16:00] sportman: ah, i was going to use fedora 4
[02:16:00] sportman: :X
[02:16:00] Kelerion: I have my backend running on ubuntu.. two frontends.. and a fc4 frontend.. plus an ubuntu running in a vmware on my xp machine too running myth
[02:16:00] xpis: fc4 is fine, if you update everything as soon as you install it.
[02:16:00] Ryushin: Okay, write this down, it will be kind of a fool prof way to get things working, but it is a bit advanced. I use debian, which knoppmyth is a derived from.
[02:17:00] Yellow-Snow: yea i knew its debian
[02:17:00] Yellow-Snow: couln't think of it
[02:17:00] Ryushin: The PVR-150 and PVR-500 cards need the newer ivtv driver. You need to use 0.4.2.
[02:17:00] sportman: what if i do a fc5 test dvd?
[02:17:00] Ryushin: You will also probably need the development version of lirc to get your remote to work.
[02:17:00] Yellow-Snow: no ryushin
[02:17:00] kahuna_: personally I haven't had any trouble with ubuntu and myth, but just ubuntu in general.
[02:17:00] Yellow-Snow: it works
[02:17:00] xpis: sportman: you can always use that and update when fc5 final comes out.
[02:17:00] Yellow-Snow: just sometimes when i reboot it wont work
[02:18:00] Yellow-Snow: other time it works fine the whole time
[02:18:00] Yellow-Snow: i just keep rebooting till it works.. 2–3 times max
[02:18:00] Ryushin: 2.6.15 has a lot of NICE changes for the haupauge cards.
[02:18:00] Ryushin: Does Knoppmyth have access to the latest kernel?
[02:19:00] Ryushin: Is it just your remote that is having issues?
[02:19:00] sportman: ok xpis
[02:19:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
[02:19:00] kahuna_: Ryushin: like most of the stuff being in v4l or what?
[02:19:00] Ryushin: Everything else is working okay?
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[02:19:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
[02:19:00] Ryushin: kahuna_: Yea.
[02:20:00] Ryushin: Yellow-Snow: Your lirc module has to start AFTER the ivtv driver starts.
[02:20:00] Ryushin: You can control the module loading order by editing /etc/modules
[02:20:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[02:21:00] Yellow-Snow: i dont see any lirc
[02:21:00] xpis: Ryushin: the lirc module would refuse to start without the card module installed, wouldn't it?
[02:21:00] Kelerion: I'd think so
[02:21:00] xpis: So I doubt that's the issue
[02:21:00] Yellow-Snow: no lirc in /etc/modules
[02:22:00] Ryushin: kahuna_: svn myth, 2.6.15 kernel, 0.4.2 ivtv, latest dev version of lirc, everything works perfectly. HD-3000, PVR-350, XvMC, everything.
[02:22:00] Ryushin: Let me check my myth box.
[02:22:00] xpis: If it has been fixed in newer ivtv releases, he should simply compile the latest lirc modules for his current kernel.
[02:22:00] kahuna_: good deal.
[02:22:00] Kelerion: simply? lol
[02:22:00] Yellow-Snow: ^^
[02:22:00] xpis: It would be easier than compiling an entire kernel.
[02:22:00] Kelerion: this is true
[02:22:00] kahuna_: ivtv 0.4.1 works pretty good for me too. I had to modify the code a bit but it works.
[02:23:00] Kelerion: modify the code? why?
[02:23:00] Ryushin: Yellow-Snow: Make sure lirc_dev and lirc_i2c are loaded after your ivtv driver.
[02:23:00] Yellow-Snow: i dont see any lirc
[02:23:00] Ryushin: Well, the 2.6.15 solves a lot of problems with the PVR-350 and HD-3000 card.
[02:24:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: ok, now dcc me whatever it was
[02:24:00] Ryushin: Type modinfo lirc_dev
[02:24:00] kahuna_: Theres' a hardware bug in my happuage card that screws up audio, so I had to set a register for audio in the driver instead of auto detecting it
[02:24:00] Ryushin: modinfo lirc_i2c
[02:24:00] kahuna_: I have a pvr-150mce
[02:24:00] xpis: Ryushin/Yellow-Snow: He could get someone else to aid in the compilation. Then, he could install the compiled modules.
[02:24:00] Yellow-Snow: k i did it.. what to know?
[02:25:00] sportman: aight
[02:25:00] sportman: fedora done in 3 hours
[02:25:00] Ryushin: True. But if he doesn't have a HD card, then the kernel he has is probably fine. He should use the latest ivtv 0.4.2 though.
[02:25:00] Ryushin: Yellow-Snow: Did it find the module?
[02:25:00] Yellow-Snow: found both
[02:25:00] Yellow-Snow: oj whats it called?
[02:25:00] Ryushin: Good, put those two module names at the end of /etc/modules and reboot.
[02:25:00] Yellow-Snow: got it
[02:26:00] Ryushin: Do you see a ivtv driver in /etc/modules?
[02:26:00] Yellow-Snow: yes
[02:26:00] Yellow-Snow: and i2c_core
[02:26:00] Yellow-Snow: i2c_sensor
[02:27:00] Yellow-Snow: rebooting
[02:27:00] Ryushin: You can "probably" comment out the i2c_core and i2c_sensor. ivtv will start any extra modules it needs. So do ivtv, lirc_dev, lirc_i2c and you should be good.
[02:28:00] Yellow-Snow: ryushin just wondering.. you have your remote all set up and configed? like mplayer sound and all?
[02:28:00] Ryushin: I use xine, but yea. Fully done. Only took 3 1/2 hours to make.
[02:29:00] Yellow-Snow: oh my
[02:29:00] Ryushin: xine has menu support, mplayer does not.
[02:29:00] Yellow-Snow: xine eh? i would like to switch but thats beyond my league
[02:29:00] Yellow-Snow: yea maybe thats why a burned dvd works
[02:29:00] Yellow-Snow: but this real one sorta locks up mythtv
[02:30:00] xpis: Ryushin: I doubt the module loading is the issue. I have all sorts of initialization problems with my framegrabber cards and my XGI video card... and since this happens on some reboots only, it looks to be the same for him.
[02:30:00] Yellow-Snow: now it works
[02:30:00] Yellow-Snow: well..
[02:31:00] Yellow-Snow: for now..
[02:31:00] Yellow-Snow: should i keep rebooting?
[02:31:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: try a hard reboot
[02:31:00] Yellow-Snow: that is?
[02:31:00] Ryushin: You can use my lirc here: http://www.chrisdos.com/lircrc I got the base from somone else and then just kept modifying until I was done.
[02:31:00] xpis: reset button on computer
[02:31:00] Ryushin: No. Do a really hard reboot.
[02:31:00] Yellow-Snow: got it
[02:31:00] Yellow-Snow: ? lol
[02:31:00] m1k3: i need some advice... an acquaintance bought a pvr-500 because he thought it would do pic-in-pic in windows. naturally it doesn't but if i can find him a card that will i can get the pvr500 off him cheep. any suggestions?
[02:31:00] Ryushin: Shut it down. Leave it off for 30 seconds and then start it back up.
[02:31:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[02:32:00] xpis: Ryushin: you can get harder than that. Power down the PSU.
[02:32:00] Yellow-Snow: hm now that i think about it
[02:32:00] Yellow-Snow: i turned off my pc.. went to sleep
[02:32:00] Yellow-Snow: turned it on and remote didnt work
[02:32:00] UBL: m1k3, you can do pic in pic with pvr500 in mythtv
[02:32:00] squish102: sorry quick question, on knoppmyth where is the file with all the keys in it, or the file name?
[02:32:00] Kelerion: why can't you do pip in windows?
[02:32:00] m1k3: yup i know but this guy is vehemently windows only
[02:32:00] m1k3: his loss
[02:32:00] Ryushin: The PVR cards can retain their settings for up to 30 seconds.
[02:33:00] m1k3: i dunno – no software support
[02:33:00] Kelerion: k
[02:33:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: that screams initialization problem. Which is often fixed by load/unload hacks.
[02:33:00] riddlebox: I wrote a script that is supposed to insert data into the record table, which it does, but myth does not set it to record?
[02:34:00] riddlebox: m1k3, my pvr-500 does pic in pic
[02:34:00] m1k3: using what software?
[02:34:00] Ryushin: Yellow-Snow: I have a DLP HD TV with DVI. I bought a fanless nvidia 5200 DVI card. The nvidia card can accelerate playback of mpeg2 streams which your pvr-150 card will put out.
[02:34:00] riddlebox: m1k3, mythtv
[02:34:00] Kelerion: I bet it'd work with something like media portal
[02:34:00] m1k3: oh, i know – like i said this guy won't use linux, let alone myth
[02:35:00] Yellow-Snow: ?
[02:35:00] Kelerion: but you wanna nick his 500 huh? lol
[02:35:00] m1k3: hey, i could use another 2 tuners ;)
[02:36:00] Yellow-Snow: remote works
[02:36:00] Ryushin: Yellow-Snow: xpis was saying you have a xgi video card. The nvidia 5200 will allow you to do XvMC.
[02:36:00] Ryushin: Cool.
[02:36:00] Kelerion: so tell him to get two 150's or something
[02:36:00] Ryushin: Now you have a PVR.
[02:36:00] Yellow-Snow: whats XvMC?
[02:36:00] xpis: Ryushin: no, I said that *I* have an XGI video card. I have no idea what he has.
[02:36:00] Yellow-Snow: 5500
[02:36:00] Yellow-Snow: nvidia geforece 5500
[02:37:00] Ryushin: Oh, I didn't know, I came in in the middle of the conversation.
[02:37:00] Yellow-Snow: pimp glad remote works for now
[02:37:00] riddlebox: when my script runs, in mythbackend --v all I get this when my script inserts the data, is it normal http://pastebin.com/542665
[02:37:00] Yellow-Snow: hey ryushin to get xine to work.. just install.. and add the command line to mythtv to get it to play it?
[02:37:00] Ryushin: That will probably do just fine. XvMC accelerates mpeg2 video and off loads your cpu for playback.
[02:38:00] Kelerion: Yellow-Snow: and add all your remote commands to your lircrc file for xine
[02:38:00] Ryushin: Yea, that should be all. You will probably want to play with the xine options.
[02:38:00] Ryushin: The lircrc file I posted has it all ready for xine.
[02:38:00] Ryushin: Modify that to your liking.
[02:38:00] Kelerion: ohh. didn't see you post that
[02:39:00] Ryushin: http://www.chrisdos.com/lircrc
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[02:39:00] squish102: i'm still confused y nuvexport would diable a whole lot of options after a "apt-get install ffmpeg"
[02:39:00] Yellow-Snow: yea already saved
[02:39:00] Yellow-Snow: could u tell me whats your command line?
[02:39:00] Ryushin: It's for Kelerion if he wanted it.
[02:39:00] Ryushin: Let me remote to my pvr box and I'll look it up for you.
[02:40:00] Yellow-Snow: sweet
[02:40:00] Yellow-Snow: lmao 192.168.1.103 and 192.168.1.102.. back and forth
[02:40:00] Yellow-Snow: thats so strange
[02:41:00] m1k3: i dunno... from what i can tell pip has not gone beyond feature request stage in any software but mythtv. just checked media portal – feature request
[02:44:00] Kelerion: am gobsmacked the hauppauge software for the 500 didn't have pip included too
[02:45:00] xpis: IMO, the only two things needed to make mythtv "feature complete" are volume normalization (to not wake everyone in the house up) and integrated video streaming and control via mythweb. (And mythstreamtv doesn't count)
[02:45:00] xpis: And I'm adding mplayer's volume normalization algorithm to mythtv as we speak.
[02:45:00] Yellow-Snow: remote works again!
[02:45:00] Yellow-Snow: whats that?
[02:46:00] Yellow-Snow: damn i cant play any real dvd
[02:46:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[02:46:00] Ryushin: Yellow-Snow: xine -pfhq --no-splash %s
[02:46:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: and the only thing you did different was explicitly specify module loading order?
[02:46:00] Yellow-Snow: badass!
[02:46:00] Yellow-Snow: no just add the 2 things at the end
[02:46:00] kahuna_: xpis: what kind of streaming protocol?
[02:46:00] Yellow-Snow: lirc_i2c and lirc_dev
[02:47:00] kahuna_: I'd like to see some kind of streaming that's compatible with vlc
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[02:47:00] ShockValue: grrr.. this xvmc + osd thing is annoying.. seems that all the methods i find to fix it just make it varying degrees of bad
[02:47:00] Ryushin: kahuna_: Just use vlc. I use it on linux and windows. mythstreamtv works great.
[02:48:00] Ryushin: ShockValue: latest svn is your friend for xvmc.
[02:48:00] Yellow-Snow: ryushin do u have your box setup to save power when its not in use?
[02:48:00] Ryushin: Nope, only think I haven't done. It runs all the time and pretty much works a lot of that time.
[02:48:00] ShockValue: Ryushin yeah? I dont spoze it's easy to use with gentoo?
[02:48:00] kahuna_: Cool. Does mythstreamtv work with latest svn?
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[02:49:00] xris: kahuna_: search the mailing list archives, there's a patch
[02:49:00] Ryushin: kahuana: Yea, it does. There was a patch for it. Just check the dev list last month for mythstreamtv.
[02:49:00] Yellow-Snow: have u made it auto cut the commercials and resave it?
[02:49:00] Ryushin: ShockValue: should workd great with gentoo.
[02:49:00] kahuna_: xpis = xris?
[02:49:00] ** xris is still waiting for the mythstreamtv author to contact him about including it officially in mythweb **
[02:49:00] xris: kahuna_: no
[02:49:00] xpis: no, xris != me
[02:49:00] kahuna_: just another wannabe I guess.
[02:49:00] kahuna_: :P
[02:50:00] Ryushin: It just flags the commercials. Works like a charm. Though I have 600 GB to store my shows. Need it for HD.
[02:50:00] ** xris likes having groupies. **
[02:50:00] Yellow-Snow: wow
[02:50:00] Yellow-Snow: i have 300 gb comin in
[02:50:00] ShockValue: Ryushin – im kind of a linux newb.. im just scared of borking my system after months of getting it running nice :)
[02:50:00] xpis: Well, xris predates my usage of this nick. Prior to xpis (which I picked before ever joining this channel), I was dnl, zzxc, and ml.
[02:51:00] Yellow-Snow: shockvalue.. LOL thats what im doing till i get my stuff in
[02:51:00] Ryushin: ShockValue: Then image it so you can go back to it in case it doesn't work out.
[02:51:00] Yellow-Snow: im trying to learn how to do everything
[02:51:00] xpis: As for streaming, mythstreamtv relies on encumbered streaming technology.
[02:51:00] ShockValue: howto: image machine in linux
[02:51:00] xris: xpis: I've been using xris as a nic since like 1994. heh
[02:51:00] kahuna_: says it outputs wmv2 adn divx3
[02:52:00] Yellow-Snow: oh shit ryushin i forget why i dont use xine
[02:52:00] kahuna_: 94? I wasn't even on the internet then. Only BBS.
[02:52:00] xpis: xris: zzxc is my "established" nickname. I only started using xpis about a month ago.
[02:52:00] Ryushin: ShockValue: http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
[02:52:00] Yellow-Snow: i try to install apt-get install xine-ui and i get an error.. the following packages have unmet dependencies blah balh libreadline5
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[02:52:00] xris: never understood people picking unpronouncable nics
[02:53:00] Ryushin: Is knoppmyth based on stable, testing, or unstable?
[02:53:00] Yellow-Snow: ?
[02:53:00] xpis: xris: FYI: xpis is based on the mozilla package installer format
[02:53:00] GreyFoxx: Sweet, looks like my main frontend can playback HDTV without any problems.
[02:53:00] poser: I used mtd and mythtranscode to rip a chapter of dvd, now I wanted to burn that to a dvd. the chapter is larger than the size of a dvd, so should I compress it?
[02:53:00] xpis: xris: You pronounce your nick?
[02:54:00] kahuna_: what do you think of ebgytdmncswopz for a nick?
[02:54:00] poser: trying for a data dvd
[02:54:00] xris: xpis: considering that it's a derivation of my name, yes.
[02:54:00] Ryushin: yellow-snow: At marillat to your sources after you figure out which version you need. Check the faq on ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[02:54:00] kahuna_: I really like 4 or more consonants in a row.
[02:54:00] xris: xpis: but at least I can pronounce yours now. heh since x-piss sounds kind of lewd.
[02:54:00] Ryushin: Well, time to go. Take care all.
[02:54:00] xpis: xris: rofl
[02:54:00] kahuna_: at least it's not sexpiss.
[02:55:00] GreyFoxx: xris: That HDTV sample you put up looks sweet
[02:55:00] GreyFoxx: Just found out that we will be getting at least 3 OTA channels here by the end of the summer
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[02:55:00] Ryushin: GreyFoxx: You finally can get HD. That's great!
[02:56:00] xris: GreyFoxx: yeah, 1080i is awesome
[02:56:00] xris: if only my tv supported it.
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[02:56:00] jnunez: GreyFoxx: is it OTA?
[02:56:00] kahuna_: My box wont handle it. I was a cheapskate and got a celly instead of a pentium
[02:56:00] redline--: stop stop stop you are making me jealous! I cant get it til the end of 2006
[02:56:00] ShockValue: gentoo related: if i unmerge mythtv and emerge mythtv-svn, will it save my settings, or will i need to re-setup everything?
[02:56:00] GreyFoxx: xris: yeah, mine is SDTV as well, but the sample looked sweet, and my box played it without my having to change anything :)
[02:56:00] kahuna_: I have 5 OTA HD stations here.
[02:56:00] GreyFoxx: jnunez: Over the air HDTV broadcasts
[02:56:00] rtsai: xris: around?
[02:57:00] xris: GreyFoxx: cool. now if only I could get nuvexport to export those. there's some cool stuff on pbs I'd like to record
[02:57:00] xris: rtsai: what's up?
[02:57:00] rtsai: oops
[02:57:00] xris: rtsai: just put in your patch
[02:57:00] rtsai: any idea of a timeframe for committing my last patch (Scheduled_Recordings[channum])? the Channels array has the same problem, and fixing that will be much more invasive; I'd rather not have overlapping patches
[02:57:00] redline--: GreyFoxx would you say the latest svn is very close to release?
[02:57:00] kahuna_: how close are we to 0.19?
[02:57:00] rtsai: oh
[02:58:00] jnunez: I have a ton of HDTV stations in my area (according to AntennaWeb.com) but I need a better indoor Omni Directional Antenna
[02:58:00] xris: rtsai: about 30 secs ago.  :)
[02:58:00] GreyFoxx: redline--: I'd say so
[02:58:00] xpis: xris: By the time I noticed you were one letter off from my nick, I was already known by people in the v4l and xorg development channels as xpis. And zzxc-xpis doesn't look appealing.
[02:58:00] rtsai: [i should ask, do you agree that Channels has a similar problem/solution?]
[02:58:00] GreyFoxx: I saw a local surplus shop had a ton of HDTV antennas for sale... I might go grab one for later
[02:58:00] xris: kahuna_: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/report/3
[02:59:00] jnunez: I live in an Apartment so I can't mount one on the roof
[02:59:00] xris: rtsai: hadn't looked that deeply, actually. your way is definitely better than the way I was doing it before (and way better than the quickfix I put in)
[03:00:00] kahuna_: wow, only 4 tickets left.
[03:00:00] xris: but yeah, it's likely worth doing to channels, too. except that the channel is more often accessed as a specific channel on a specific card...
[03:00:00] xris: hard to say
[03:00:00] jnunez: I have a directional antenna and I have to get up and position it.
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[03:00:00] xris: kahuna_: there are really only 2 major bugs left.
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[03:00:00] xris: once those are fixed, isaac will pick a release date and we'll be off toward .20
[03:01:00] rtsai: xris: hmm, yeah. My eyes starting glazing over when 'grep Channels' returned multiple screenfuls of lines :P. I was hoping you'd have some quick fix in mind.
[03:01:00] redline--: under mythtv-setup how do you setup your pvr-500?
[03:01:00] kahuna_: and then I get to pick up svn and frustrate my wife once again :)
[03:01:00] rtsai: redline--: one of the choices is PVR-x00, isn't it?
[03:01:00] redline--: haha kahuna_ im in the same boat
[03:02:00] redline--: well i have /dev/video0 and video1 but i can get both tuners off of /dev/video0
[03:02:00] kahuna_: i bet lots of us are
[03:02:00] xris: rtsai: not really. not without some serious digging, anyway.
[03:02:00] redline--: its rather confusing
[03:02:00] ShockValue: meh.. i think ill just turn off xvmc until 19 is released.. im scared of breaking my machine :)
[03:03:00] redline--: i also have an external cable box hooked to composite in and regular cable to coax
[03:03:00] rtsai: redline--: how do you have two tuners? My PVR500 only has a tuner0, but I have two two Svideo and two composite options (for some reason).
[03:03:00] Manolis: Anyone notice menu navigation being slow in this weekend's SVN ?
[03:03:00] kahuna_: one thing that's cool is that svn uses a lot less CPU than 0.18.x does
[03:04:00] kahuna_: Manolis: not me.
[03:04:00] redline--: i set them up in mythtv-setup
[03:04:00] Yellow-Snow: can someone PLEASE tell me how to install xine-ui if i get the error depends on libreadline5?!
[03:04:00] kahuna_: install libreadline5 first?
[03:04:00] redline--: add 1 pvr-XX0 as then add another, then assign a video source
[03:05:00] Yellow-Snow: i tried
[03:05:00] jnunez: Yellow-Snow: What distro? On Debian apt-get usually takes care of deps. But Gentoo would give me issues
[03:05:00] Yellow-Snow: i have debian
[03:05:00] Manolis: xris: what's the reference to .20? Will 19 be skipped in leau of 20?
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[03:05:00] redline--: .19 is about to be released
[03:05:00] xris: Manolis: once .19 is released, us devs can then start working on .20
[03:05:00] jnunez: Check the version of libreadline
[03:05:00] Manolis: xris: You guys deserve a raise! :)
[03:05:00] Yellow-Snow: how?
[03:06:00] xris: Manolis: I'll take that 1000% raise....
[03:06:00] jnunez: xris! Congrats!
[03:06:00] xris: 0 * 1000 is still 0, unfortunately.
[03:06:00] kahuna_: I'll raise my glass to you.
[03:06:00] xris: I did just get a big raise, though.
[03:06:00] Kelerion: Yellow-Snow: no you don't have debian.. you have knoppmyth.. which is a derivative
[03:06:00] xris: got one for kormoc, too.
[03:06:00] Yellow-Snow: oh
[03:06:00] xpis: xris: What is the policy on point releases? Are they always bugfix only?
[03:06:00] kahuna_: And hope that someday I can contribute some useful patches...
[03:06:00] redline--: I can send a hooker to your place to give you a raise
[03:06:00] xris: xpis: honestly, I don't know
[03:07:00] Yellow-Snow: i thought knoppmyth is built on debian
[03:07:00] xris: redline--: my wife might take issue with that.
[03:07:00] Kelerion: that doesn't mean it *is* debian
[03:07:00] jnunez: Yellow-Snow: I have KnoppMyth and was able to install with no issues. My Debian box had no problems either
[03:07:00] redline--: haha i bet
[03:07:00] Yellow-Snow: wtf why do i only have problems
[03:07:00] Yellow-Snow: i swear..
[03:07:00] kahuna_: redline--: Send em over here...
[03:07:00] Yellow-Snow: everything in the world points to the windows pvr programs
[03:07:00] redline--: lol Yellow i feel your pain
[03:07:00] Yellow-Snow: but i just cant settle for less
[03:08:00] ** xris is still waiting for the knop-based usb-bootable thumbdrive distro **
[03:08:00] Yellow-Snow: why me!
[03:08:00] xris: lxmsuite was supposed to come up with something like that, but then they had financial trouble.
[03:08:00] redline--: why me too!
[03:08:00] jnunez: Check out the forums for any assistance
[03:08:00] Kelerion: Yellow-Snow: to be honest : at your level of linux I'd suggest using Fedora and following Jarod's guide
[03:08:00] kahuna_: Try something othe than knoppmyth then maybe? Install an easy distro like ubuntu then just apt-get install mythtv
[03:08:00] Yellow-Snow: ... wait
[03:08:00] Yellow-Snow: i thought knoppmyth was the easy way
[03:09:00] Yellow-Snow: it sets up remote and all
[03:09:00] Kelerion: you did huh?
[03:09:00] Yellow-Snow: and dosen't load sutff i didnt need
[03:09:00] Yellow-Snow: so you are telling me.. there is even more of a noob proof way?
[03:09:00] kahuna_: Obviously it can't be that easy of you're running into dependency issues
[03:09:00] Kelerion: knoppmyth is good.. but it has it's own problems
[03:09:00] jnunez: KnoppMyth is easy but very particular
[03:09:00] Yellow-Snow: i see that
[03:09:00] xpis: xris: There's always reverse engineering gemstar's tv guide on screen.
[03:09:00] Yellow-Snow: A noone else uses it so they cant help
[03:10:00] xris: xpis: huh?
[03:10:00] Yellow-Snow: ok so what does everyone suggest?
[03:10:00] xpis: xris: for guide data without datadirect
[03:10:00] jnunez: Fedora is a lengthly install but if you follow Jarod's Guide it will be easier
[03:10:00] xris: dd is good, though
[03:10:00] Kelerion: Fedora.. ubuntu/debian has difficulties with lirc
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[03:10:00] xpis: xris: until it is shut down by tribune
[03:10:00] Yellow-Snow: if you'd like to install a custom version of Knoppix optimized for MythTV.
[03:11:00] Yellow-Snow: see i though that was best
[03:11:00] kahuna_: I use gentoo but I can't reccomend it for a newbie.
[03:11:00] xris: xpis: I don't think it will be. the scrapers cost them too much bandwidth, and they know that if kill DD, we'd go back to that.
[03:11:00] xpis: xris: As soon as tribune doesn't like giving away their data any more...
[03:11:00] Kelerion: yes.. if you know knoppix/debian
[03:11:00] squish102: i dunno, i stuggled with FC4 and Jerod's guide, and knoppmyth worked for me in like 2 hours
[03:11:00] Yellow-Snow: im just trying to install xine-ui!
[03:11:00] squish102: although i still have a few problems
[03:11:00] Kelerion: squish: whats your level of linux use?
[03:11:00] xris: Yellow-Snow: "best" is what you're most familiar with. knop is good for newbies, but fedora gives you a little more control. and the OS itself is a little friendlier in general
[03:11:00] Yellow-Snow: i didnt think i needed to know to much
[03:12:00] squish102: mythtv is not the best introduction to linux
[03:12:00] Yellow-Snow: ahah amen
[03:12:00] dtm: lol.
[03:12:00] xris: xpis: we'll see. they have a LOT of people using DD now. pretty sure that gbpvr has way more users than myth does
[03:12:00] kahuna_: mythtv isn't really easy. It could be but nobody's come up with a magic bullet yet.
[03:12:00] ** Kelerion loves understatements **
[03:12:00] xpis: xris: Or, more likely, they'll start charging.
[03:12:00] Yellow-Snow: well.. knoppmyth does it all
[03:13:00] Yellow-Snow: tho.. i want xine
[03:13:00] Yellow-Snow: and vnc
[03:13:00] Yellow-Snow: and other sit
[03:13:00] Yellow-Snow: stuff u know?
[03:13:00] xpis: xris: They already charge an arm and a leg for the data to tivo, et al.
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[03:13:00] squish102: DD ?
[03:13:00] xris: xpis: again, if they start charging, people will go back to scraping. and they lose their market research and start having bandwidth issues again. they've also promised that they won't start charging as long as people follow the rules.
[03:13:00] xris: squish102: datadirect
[03:13:00] xpis: squish102: datadirect
[03:13:00] kahuna_: Hmmm... what happens when we have to pay for guide data? I wouldn't mind if it was a couple of bucks and I could referesh a couple of times per day.
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[03:14:00] xpis: xris: then zap2it can ban abusive (aka xmltv) IPs.
[03:14:00] xris: xpis: that'd be really hard to do
[03:14:00] beau: dudes
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[03:14:00] xris: and someone would figure a way around it.
[03:14:00] kahuna_: yah, especially seeing that a relly determined person can get a proxy list.
[03:14:00] jnunez: what is the datadirect url? I need to update my account
[03:14:00] xris: jnunez: labs.zap2it.com
[03:15:00] xpis: labs.zap2it.com
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[03:15:00] beau: im having troubles, im getting out of time audio and no audio in recordings, my line is muted and that
[03:15:00] jnunez: Thanks for the reminder and URL
[03:15:00] beau: i have FC4
[03:15:00] beau: running myth 0.18.2
[03:15:00] beau: anyone got any suggestions as to how i can fix this?
[03:15:00] xpis: beau: what card?
[03:15:00] beau: winfast dv2000
[03:15:00] xris: beau: your line isn't set up for recording
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[03:15:00] Yellow-Snow: see jarods guide seems to hard
[03:16:00] beau: its not set up for recording?
[03:16:00] Kelerion: it's all cut and paste Yellow-Snow
[03:16:00] xpis: beau: Is your dv card plugged into your sound card?
[03:16:00] beau: yep
[03:16:00] xpis: beau: alsamixer
[03:16:00] beau: using a stereo cable
[03:16:00] beau: k
[03:16:00] xris: beau: out of time audio during livetv means that your machine is just playing the sound-in from the soundcard, but not recording it
[03:16:00] beau: ahh ok
[03:16:00] beau: i also have the audio continuing when i exit mythtv
[03:17:00] beau: does that sound like the same problem? or a different one?
[03:17:00] xpis: beau: Set the channel to mute and enable recording on that channel.
[03:17:00] squish102: beau, i've been there, 2 spftware encoded cards, eventually bought a pvr 150 as i could not sort sound out
[03:17:00] xris: beau: exact same problem
[03:17:00] Kelerion: yup
[03:17:00] beau: k
[03:17:00] beau: does anyone know the alsactl store default for mythtv
[03:17:00] beau: i remember seeing it somewhere
[03:17:00] squish102: beau if u get that right, and decent sound let me know pls
[03:18:00] beau: squish102 + anyone else my hotmail is bagaudron54321@hotmail.com (yea, shouldnt give it out but who cares)
[03:18:00] xris: I open gnome-volume-control, go to capture, mute the line-in, and turn on capture.
[03:18:00] beau: ive done that in kmix
[03:18:00] beau: ill check if its the same in alsamixer
[03:19:00] xpis: beau: some cmedia cards have mixer problems with alsa.
[03:19:00] xpis: beau: What is your soundcard?
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[03:19:00] beau: sound blaster audigy
[03:19:00] beau: not sure which type, it uses the snd_emu10k1 driver
[03:20:00] xpis: beau: you should have no trouble there.. just verify the mixer settings are correct in alsamixer.
[03:20:00] beau: i remember reading something bout the AC97 being a problem with it in myth
[03:20:00] beau: whats the setting i have to change in the mythtv, the mute channel?
[03:20:00] jnunez: I have a HDTV and I want to set a bootsplash image. Can the image be 720p?
[03:20:00] squish102: beau in xawtv or tvtime u should have no sound
[03:20:00] xpis: beau: the only thing mythtv controls is the volume level
[03:21:00] xpis: beau: it doesn't directly control the mute or record settings.
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[03:21:00] beau: k
[03:21:00] beau: squish: i get sound in xaw
[03:22:00] xpis: beau: you will have to use alsamixer to set your mixer settings. Make sure only one recording device is selected – your line in. Also make sure it is muted. Alsactl can then be used to recall them.
[03:23:00] beau: k
[03:23:00] squish102: beau because your line in is not muted. it needs to be muted.. but i would not listen to me, i never got it right ;)
[03:23:00] beau: i think it was set up like that allready
[03:23:00] beau: squish: it was muted
[03:23:00] beau: squish: i didnt realise what u were asking lol
[03:24:00] xpis: beau: and you still get sound looping through?
[03:24:00] beau: yea
[03:25:00] xpis: beau: that definately shouldn't happen..
[03:25:00] beau: yea
[03:25:00] xpis: beau: What kernel are you using?
[03:25:00] beau: ill just see something no
[03:25:00] beau: 2.6 kernel
[03:25:00] xpis: 2.6.what?
[03:25:00] Yellow-Snow: can anyone point me to the lircrc file? xedit what
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[03:26:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: btw, I haven't been following all your messages. Is your remote finally working?
[03:26:00] Yellow-Snow: yes sir
[03:26:00] Yellow-Snow: i added 2 things to /etc/modules
[03:26:00] Yellow-Snow: lirc_i2c and lirc_dev
[03:27:00] beau: xpis: should i have capture set as on for recording as well?
[03:27:00] beau: or just line?
[03:27:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: and .lircrc is in your home directory.
[03:27:00] Yellow-Snow: ah ok so xedit .lircrc?
[03:28:00] xpis: xedit ~/.lirc
[03:28:00] Yellow-Snow: hm
[03:28:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[03:28:00] xpis: ~ gets you to your home directory. (/home/you)
[03:28:00] xpis: beau: capture should be line only
[03:28:00] xpis: beau: and line in should be muted.
[03:29:00] xpis: beau: You may not be selecting the proper device in the mixer. Try muting them one-by-one.
[03:29:00] xpis: beau: and what exact kernel version are you using?
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[03:30:00] beau: um is there a command to do that (well i know there is lol) whats the command?
[03:30:00] Yellow-Snow: wait wait i know
[03:30:00] Yellow-Snow: er no shit i forgot
[03:30:00] beau: xpis: yea, i had capture set to capture and line set to capture, now its just line
[03:30:00] beau: hoping itll work
[03:30:00] xpis: uname -r
[03:31:00] Yellow-Snow: thats it!
[03:31:00] Yellow-Snow: so why does apt-get upgrade mplayer
[03:31:00] Yellow-Snow: take 4 years?
[03:31:00] beau: xpis: here it is 2.6.14–1.1656_FC4
[03:31:00] xpis: beau: that should suffice
[03:32:00] beau: yea
[03:32:00] orville: hi!
[03:32:00] beau: k ill c if it sorts itself now
[03:32:00] orville: esay problem this time.
[03:32:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: probably because you are upgrading every single dependency on your system at teh same time.
[03:32:00] orville: mythfilldatabase is crapping out
[03:32:00] Yellow-Snow: is that good?
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[03:32:00] orville: DB Error (Creating temporary table)
[03:32:00] orville: how do I fix that?
[03:33:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: it depends on the repository you are using.
[03:34:00] beau: xpis: absolutely no sound, ill try with the capture device set to capture now
[03:35:00] xpis: beau: try playing tv, and muting channels one at a time until you find the device.
[03:35:00] beau: k
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[03:38:00] Yellow-Snow: whats NFS?
[03:39:00] beau: xpis: i rose the ac97 level and left everything else muted, and now i got sound but not sure if its right yet
[03:39:00] orville: how do I fix DB Error (Creating temporary table) from mythfilldatabase?
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[03:40:00] xpis: ac97? I thought this was an audigy.
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[03:40:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: network file system
[03:40:00] beau: xpis: its meant to be
[03:40:00] squish102: if any1 has knoppmyth 30.x could they run a ffmpeg -version and paste?
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[03:41:00] xpis: orville: what mythtv version? And did you install the initial mysql database supplied with the documentation?
[03:41:00] squish102: i'm trying to compile ffmpeg but have no idea what to enable
[03:41:00] beau: xpis: i switched to watch live tv, it looked right, now i pressed escape out of it and the audio is stil going, is that a problem?
[03:41:00] xpis: beau: yes, it means that the loopback is not shut off
[03:42:00] beau: ahh damn it
[03:42:00] xpis: beau: now, go to alsamixer and start muting channels one by one
[03:42:00] beau: k
[03:42:00] orville: xpis: .18.1 for mythtv and ubuntu took care of mysql.
[03:42:00] jnunez: I have an HDTV with severe overscan. I fixed this in Myth but it doesn't apply to Mame. Is there a gui tool for X11?
[03:42:00] beau: xpis: muted pcm
[03:42:00] xpis: orville: did you read and follow the mythtv documentation?
[03:42:00] beau: xpis: no more tv audio
[03:42:00] xpis: beau: hm. then it's not loopback.
[03:42:00] beau: xpis: does that sound like im on the right track
[03:42:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: were you tryin to get ahold of me?
[03:43:00] xpis: beau: what happens when you kill mythfrontend?
[03:43:00] orville: xpis: you mean the ubuntu one, the mythtv one, the ivtv one?
[03:43:00] orville: cause I've read 'em all
[03:43:00] orville: too many times.
[03:43:00] beau: xpis: the audio continues
[03:43:00] orville: :-)
[03:43:00] xpis: orville: the mythtv one. Did you follow the installation procedure?
[03:43:00] orville: nope.
[03:43:00] xpis: orville: Most notably, "setting up the mysql database"
[03:43:00] orville: just install via an ubuntu package.
[03:43:00] orville: oh, that stuff.
[03:43:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: you wanted to send me something
[03:44:00] xpis: orville: Yes, that stuff.
[03:44:00] orville: yeah, that's all good.
[03:44:00] xpis: Did you do mysql -u root < some.file?
[03:44:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah are you able to accept a DCC?
[03:45:00] rtsai: xris: how can one get blank chanid's?
[03:45:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: dunno. try
[03:45:00] SlicerDicer-: sorry I kinda went AFK I just got my 3500+ AMD myth box :)
[03:45:00] xris: rtsai: I don't think you can. it's a primary key, isn't it?
[03:45:00] beau: xpis: i muted the pcm, opened mythfrontend and it unmuted the pcm itself
[03:45:00] orville: xpis: nope. i opened some.file and then opened the mysql console and put the commands in some.file directly into the console.
[03:45:00] rtsai: there's code that tries to check against blank chanids
[03:45:00] rtsai: (in mythweb)
[03:45:00] rtsai: so maybe it's not strictly correlated with stuff from the database
[03:45:00] xpis: beau: did the sound stop when you closed mythfrontend?
[03:46:00] SlicerDicer-: I compressed it further xris :)
[03:46:00] xris: rtsai: could be me being paranoid.. or leftover from ages ago
[03:46:00] rtsai: ok
[03:46:00] beau: xpis: nope, it stayed on
[03:46:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh way not bad upload goin on here :)
[03:46:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe 116k :)
[03:46:00] xpis: beau: is mythtv using alsa or oss?
[03:46:00] beau: xpis: its like its just constantly feeding from the tv card into the sound card
[03:47:00] squish102: can any1 do a ffmpeg -version that uses nuvexport to burn xvid with it
[03:47:00] beau: xpis: oss emulated by alsa i think, cos i compiled it with no OSS support but with ALSA support
[03:47:00] xpis: beau: type cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
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[03:47:00] beau: xpis: yea
[03:48:00] beau: xpis: typed in
[03:48:00] xpis: beau: and are you still able to hear?
[03:48:00] xpis: beau: (aka, did you get loud white noise)
[03:48:00] beau: yep
[03:48:00] beau: actually
[03:48:00] beau: yea
[03:48:00] beau: i got loud noise
[03:48:00] xpis: and do you still have TV?
[03:49:00] orville: GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv";
[03:49:00] beau: ill c
[03:49:00] xpis: Did the TV audio stop when you did that?
[03:49:00] orville: that's the line in the sql dealing with creating temp files.
[03:49:00] beau: xpis: tv audio stopped yep
[03:49:00] orville: it doesn't seem to be having any effect though since mythilldatabase isn't working.
[03:50:00] xpis: beau: type cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp
[03:50:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: looks good. now tell me how you did it?  :)
[03:50:00] beau: xpis: now i hear nothing
[03:50:00] xpis: ok.. kill that and start watching TV again.
[03:51:00] beau: in mythtv
[03:51:00] beau: ?
[03:51:00] xpis: Yes
[03:51:00] xpis: Then escape out of livetv and run that command again
[03:51:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: hehe
[03:51:00] SlicerDicer-: I used mencoder
[03:52:00] SlicerDicer-: mencoder hdtv_sample.mpg -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vqscale=3:v4mv:trell -vf tfields,scale=320:180 -fps 60000/1001 -ofps 60000/1001 -o test.avi
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[03:52:00] SlicerDicer-: thats what I used xris
[03:52:00] xpis: beau: ok.. are you getting TV audio now?
[03:53:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont know how that would transfer to doing similar with ffmpeg xris but I am sure it cant be that much differnet to a degree
[03:53:00] beau: xpis: yep
[03:53:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: I'll play with it
[03:53:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: alright :)
[03:53:00] beau: xpis: still kept going when i exited mythfrontend though, ill c what killing the backend does
[03:53:00] SlicerDicer-: but at least you know its possible with that hehe
[03:53:00] xris: yeah
[03:53:00] beau: xpis: audio was still goin
[03:53:00] xris: well, part of the problem is going through mythtranscode to get the commercials removed
[03:53:00] xpis: beau: try cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp again
[03:53:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: the quality is pretty nice too
[03:54:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh yeah xris
[03:54:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: hard to have problems with a pristine source
[03:54:00] SlicerDicer-: was not thinking about that
[03:55:00] beau: xpis: i did, no change
[03:55:00] xpis: beau: did the command fail, or hang like it should?
[03:55:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: cool, works for me, too
[03:55:00] xris: now to figure out how to move that into nuvexport
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[03:56:00] SlicerDicer-: cool xris
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[03:57:00] squish102: SlicerDicer-: do u have a working ffmpeg?
[03:57:00] SlicerDicer-: yes
[03:57:00] beau: xpis: it just did the same as all the other ones
[03:57:00] SlicerDicer-: ffmpeg, transcode and mencoder
[03:57:00] squish102: im looking for the output of a ffmpeg -version
[03:57:00] SlicerDicer-: I have them all!
[03:57:00] squish102: so i know what switches are needed to compile
[03:57:00] xpis: beau: ok, it looks like you are getting all loopback but no recording.
[03:57:00] xpis: beau: Do recorded programs have any sound?
[03:58:00] squish102: is this channel logged? i would love to read through the steps xpis has taken beau
[03:59:00] xpis: beau: Also, check dmesg for messages related to your sound card driver.
[03:59:00] GreyFoxx: squish102: It is
[03:59:00] squish102: ok i suppose google is my friend
[03:59:00] xpis: beau: or any PCI errors in general
[04:00:00] beau: xpis: no recorded programs have sound
[04:00:00] beau: xpis: whats the dmesg command
[04:00:00] squish102: i think google is ignoring me since i have abused it with mythtv questions ;)
[04:00:00] xpis: dmesg
[04:00:00] xpis: dmesg | grep -i pci
[04:00:00] beau: k
[04:00:00] xpis: squish102: lol
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[04:00:00] xpis: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/
[04:00:00] xpis: FYI
[04:01:00] beau: um
[04:01:00] beau: gameport: EMU10K1 is pci0000:01:0a.1/gameport0, io 0x1460, speed 1125kHz
[04:01:00] beau: shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
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[04:01:00] squish102: thanks, xpis, u know everything :P
[04:01:00] beau: xpis: only thing i found with the word fail in it
[04:01:00] xpis: squish102: I don't know everything.
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[04:02:00] jflatt: Should I use nvidia proprietary drivers or the nv open source ones?
[04:02:00] GreyFoxx: proprietary
[04:02:00] jflatt: I'm using an Athlon XP 3200+ and DVI out on a 5200
[04:02:00] xpis: beau: ok.. try this: turn off the computer. Ground yourself. Pull the sound card out. Put it back in. Turn on computer.
[04:02:00] xpis: beau: do not skip step 2.
[04:03:00] xpis: beau: It may be something related to the PCI transport itself.
[04:03:00] squish102: you sure u did not wanna say "Drown yourself" ;)
[04:03:00] beau: lol yea
[04:03:00] beau: i know bout static squish
[04:03:00] beau: k ill b back later
[04:03:00] xpis: squish102: drowning would involve water, which should be kept away from his computer.
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[04:04:00] squish102: xpis, u have a second now to do a ffmpeg -version for me please?
[04:05:00] xpis: squish102: What for?
[04:05:00] squish102: i wanna compile it, and have no idea what switches are needed
[04:05:00] squish102: after a apt-get install ffmpeg i hosed nuvexport
[04:06:00] xpis: it's too long for an irc PRIVMSG
[04:06:00] squish102: so i am trying a cvs version, but no idea what to compile with
[04:06:00] jflatt: GreyFoxx: why proprietary over open? I'm not doing any gaming, just Myth
[04:06:00] Chutt: where the hell did this guy on the users list get that amd64 doesn't do mmx?
[04:06:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: ok, I think the biggest issue mencoder has is that it tries to seek backwards in the fifo
[04:07:00] squish102: thanks xpis wow that is a log one
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[04:07:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I dont like mencoder myself I was just trying it
[04:07:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I prefer transcode myself
[04:07:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: well, I'd settle for one of the three working
[04:07:00] bmk789: can someone recomment a good USB tv tuner for mythTV?
[04:08:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe :)
[04:08:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: ffmpeg is what nuvexport uses though right?
[04:08:00] jnunez: ConvertX is Hardware and does DiVX
[04:08:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: nuvexport can use all 3
[04:08:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh cool
[04:08:00] bmk789: jnunez: that the plextop?
[04:08:00] xris: I use it with transcode, but ffmpeg is the default
[04:08:00] jnunez: yup
[04:08:00] bmk789: plextor*
[04:08:00] xris: bmk789: only one I know of is the plextor
[04:08:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: sweet! I will be using it with transcode then
[04:09:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: --transcode (or in the nuvexportrc file)
[04:09:00] bmk789: i guess ill buy that one then
[04:09:00] SlicerDicer-: I will work on getting that hdtv transcoded with transcode :)
[04:09:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: once I get out of hectic bullshit I am in right now everything is upside down I just got a new computer hehe
[04:09:00] xris: good luck. I've had no end of failures
[04:09:00] xris: heh. I'll have a new computer this week
[04:09:00] xris: dual core 64bit pentium
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[04:10:00] xpis: xris: why not amd?
[04:10:00] xpis: beau: did it work?
[04:10:00] xris: xpis: because intel was cheaper
[04:10:00] beau: xpis: i switched the sound card to a diff pci slot now
[04:10:00] beau: xpis: what am i meant to do now?
[04:10:00] xris: and quieter
[04:11:00] SlicerDicer-: cool xris
[04:11:00] xpis: beau: see if you still get the odd mixer behavior
[04:11:00] beau: k
[04:11:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I am waiting for AM2 myself
[04:11:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: this intel deal was too good to pass up
[04:12:00] beau: xpis: ok
[04:12:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: understood
[04:12:00] xpis: xris: people used to buy amds because they were cheaper. Now, for the high end market, it is reversing.
[04:12:00] Manolis: When running configure on an AMD Atholon is tune/arch/cpu=i686 correct and the best I can do?
[04:12:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: at the current time I am so broke I have a AMD 3200+ I cant use cause I aint got no fricken cases haha
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[04:13:00] xris: xpis: it's also cheaper when intel offers $400+ worth of gear for $250 to channel partner employees
[04:13:00] xris: and I then turn around and sell half of that for $150 because the really awesome microsoft mce keyboard/remote don't work in linux
[04:14:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I got tons of spare cd drives... I got 5 of them I think, 3 PSU's, 2 spare gfx cards I mean the list goes on but no fricken case lol
[04:14:00] SlicerDicer-: so 1 frontend has to wait :)
[04:14:00] beau: xpis: no change
[04:14:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: that's kind of silly.
[04:15:00] xris: I just need to sell the box I'm currently using. 3G HT p4 packed full of stuff
[04:15:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[04:15:00] xris: if I can sell it for $615, I break even on the new machine
[04:15:00] SlicerDicer-: :)
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[04:15:00] xpis: beau: type dmesg | grep bus
[04:15:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: do you know any place locally I could pick up a cheap ass case that would be like useful but I dont care how ugly for like 10$?
[04:15:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[04:16:00] xris: where's local?
[04:16:00] SlicerDicer-: errm your in seattle right?
[04:16:00] xris: but not that would fit an athlon mobo...
[04:16:00] SlicerDicer-: I live out in North Bend :)
[04:16:00] SlicerDicer-: :/
[04:16:00] xris: oh, thought you were much further east
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[04:16:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: wait for Fry's to have a $10 after rebate case
[04:16:00] SlicerDicer-: heh
[04:16:00] xris: um, re-pc is the only place that comes to mind.
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[04:17:00] xris: but it'd be utter crap. much better to just get a new one online for like $30–40
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[04:17:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: re-pc guys are asshats
[04:17:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: Or wait for a really big sale and get an Antec case for $30.
[04:17:00] djperegrine: oh man, I can't wait for .19 :P
[04:17:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: the part that bothers me if I ordered it online sure I could get one for 15$ that was great... but then I have to pay 20$ shipping
[04:17:00] SlicerDicer-: defeats the purpose
[04:17:00] beau: xpis: ill brb
[04:17:00] SlicerDicer-: and I am heading into seattle on the 9th so I figured I could kill birds with many stones and not waste gas
[04:17:00] SlicerDicer-: if you knew of something anyway
[04:17:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[04:18:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: then, there's always garbage bins behind corporations
[04:18:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[04:18:00] SlicerDicer-: xpis: its illegal in the bellevue area where I would know to go
[04:19:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: go to company. Say "I'd like a really old computer case. Are there any you are going to be throwing away?"
[04:19:00] SlicerDicer-: heh
[04:20:00] SlicerDicer-: nah I will just swing by the local computer joint they got one for 35$ when I have cash
[04:20:00] SlicerDicer-: it aint bad either
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[04:20:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: my new btx one was $50... looks pretty nice for a crappy case
[04:21:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: wait for Fry's/Outpost to have this case for $30 again: http://www.computingondemand.com/reviews/case . . . /page1.shtml
[04:21:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: that's what I got
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[04:21:00] djperegrine: I like having shitty cases so when something doesn't fit I can just bend it and it doesn't matter :P
[04:22:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: you want some tv cards?
[04:22:00] djperegrine: ( like my accediently purchased PVR-150 lo profile card)
[04:22:00] xris: actually, anyone in the seattle area can have them for free.. one pctv pro, and one no-tuner svideo/composite card.
[04:23:00] xpis: xris: you trust some stranger coming to your house to pick up an old bttv card?
[04:23:00] xris: xpis: work  :)
[04:24:00] xris: and work is moving in a few months, too. heh
[04:24:00] beau: xpis: ACPI: bus type pci registered
[04:24:00] beau: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfa134, last bus=2
[04:24:00] beau: PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
[04:24:00] beau: ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0
[04:24:00] beau: ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
[04:24:00] beau: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[04:24:00] beau: not meant to do that
[04:24:00] xpis: Btw, SlicerDicer, you should build your computer like this... no case required: http://vilimpoc.org/research/caldera/
[04:24:00] beau: ill try paste bin
[04:25:00] SlicerDicer-: xpis: I dont support fry's btw
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[04:25:00] xris: beau: please don't paste so much
[04:25:00] Yellow-Snow: http://www.amamax.com/cotdmeceatxm.html
[04:25:00] Yellow-Snow: i just bought that
[04:25:00] SlicerDicer-: they are too far away and I got cool locally owned places that I go to that they know me and give discounts I was just wondering if there was a place that might have them cheaper other than pc-re
[04:26:00] xpis: SlicerDicer: that link shows how to build a computer without going to Fry's.
[04:26:00] beau: xris: ok
[04:26:00] SlicerDicer-: rofl xpis
[04:26:00] SlicerDicer-: thats horrid
[04:26:00] SlicerDicer-: absolutely horrid
[04:27:00] SlicerDicer-: that piping more than likely would cost more than a fricken case
[04:27:00] xpis: You can get the piping from a building being rennovated.
[04:27:00] xpis: Just ask to buy some scrap.
[04:28:00] xpis: And it will make a nice piece of modern art for your TV room.
[04:28:00] xpis: And you can use a low profile (any profile, for that matter) PCI card.
[04:30:00] SlicerDicer-: omg... no
[04:30:00] xpis: And if that design is too.. modern.. for you, try http://vilimpoc.org/research/extrovert/
[04:30:00] beau: or..
[04:30:00] beau: buy a cheap pc, u will be right
[04:30:00] xpis: If you would prefer to avoid copper, there's always http://vilimpoc.org/research/hellbender/8
[04:31:00] xpis: beau: is this a new card?
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[04:31:00] xpis: too late
[04:32:00] xpis: None of those designs require cases.. and everyone who entered the room would comment on it.
[04:33:00] Yellow-Snow: any comments on my case?
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[04:35:00] xpis: Yellow-Snow: How much was it?
[04:36:00] xpis: beau: is this a new card?
[04:36:00] Yellow-Snow: 50
[04:36:00] Yellow-Snow: w/ a 550w power supply
[04:36:00] Yellow-Snow: free shipping
[04:36:00] Yellow-Snow: 49.99 totall
[04:36:00] xpis: How loud is it?
[04:36:00] Yellow-Snow: ill tell u when it comes in
[04:36:00] Yellow-Snow: cant i always insulate it?
[04:36:00] xpis: not really
[04:37:00] beau: xpis: the tv card?
[04:37:00] beau: xpis: or the sound card?
[04:37:00] xpis: if you insulate it, you'll trap heat
[04:37:00] xpis: beau: the sound card
[04:37:00] beau: xpis: nope same one
[04:37:00] xpis: beau: How old is the sound card? Has it worked fine before?
[04:38:00] beau: xpis: no idea how old it is, not too old its worked fine for everything else, just been a problem with a mythtv
[04:38:00] xpis: Well, the mixer is not working right
[04:38:00] xpis: And that doesn't seem to have anything to do with mythtv
[04:39:00] beau: yea
[04:39:00] beau: i just changed in fedora it had sound system auto detect, changed it to ALSA, though it shouldnt have mattered
[04:39:00] xpis: wait.. is kde-soundsystem enabled?
[04:39:00] xpis: If so, disable it.
[04:40:00] xpis: it does odd things to sound cards.
[04:40:00] beau: k
[04:40:00] beau: how do i check?
[04:40:00] xpis: use the kde control center
[04:41:00] xpis: or whatever it is called.
[04:41:00] beau: k
[04:41:00] beau: ahh disabled now
[04:42:00] beau: ill reboot
[04:42:00] beau: brb
[04:42:00] xpis: I don't know why KDE thinks it has to be an absolute hog.
[04:42:00] beau: yea
[04:42:00] beau: brb
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[04:42:00] xpis: The KDE people would probably like to rename linux to klinux.
[04:43:00] xpis: complete with kernel modules so that their kde filesystem would be native...
[04:43:00] xpis: And every single program on the system, even the kernel, compiled with qt tools.
[04:43:00] xpis: qmake kernel. I can see it now.
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[04:45:00] xpis: Oh yes, and the /dev/ directory would cease to exist, in favor of everything linking to kernel level KDE
[04:46:00] Yellow-Snow: xpis http://www.acoustiproducts.com/en/acoustipack.asp
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[04:46:00] xpis: Then, just turn kernel panics into pretty animated blue screens of death... and the koperating system would be complete.
[04:46:00] beau: xpis: lets try again shall we lol
[04:46:00] xpis: </rant>
[04:47:00] xpis: beau: go ahead
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[04:49:00] beau: xpis: no change
[04:49:00] beau: xpis: this is an output from mythfrontend though
[04:49:00] beau: 2006-02–07 15:48:53.810 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
[04:49:00] beau: 2006-02–07 15:48:53.811 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
[04:50:00] jnunez: Anyone have a xine line to use to replace mplayer?
[04:50:00] xpis: Do you have onboard audio too?
[04:51:00] beau: xpis: yea
[04:51:00] beau: xpis: maybe give it a try?
[04:51:00] xpis: Is it /dev/dsp1?
[04:51:00] xpis: cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp1
[04:51:00] beau: its disabled currently
[04:51:00] xpis: See what happens
[04:52:00] beau: says input file is output file
[04:52:00] beau: ive disabled onboard audio in BIOS
[04:52:00] xpis: type ls -al /dev/dsp*
[04:52:00] xpis: ah, ok, then the onboard audio isn't an issue
[04:52:00] beau: yea
[04:53:00] beau: i really dont understand why its doing it
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[04:53:00] xpis: Well, try loading your driver in debug mode
[04:53:00] beau: when i rmmod the capture card the sound stops, but i guess it should
[04:53:00] xpis: See if you get any errors
[04:54:00] beau: how do i do that?
[04:54:00] beau: sorry, not too flash on how to do certain things
[04:54:00] xpis: add debug=1 to the modprobe line
[04:54:00] xpis: anyway, I must be going. I'll be back some time tomorrow.
[04:54:00] beau: k
[04:54:00] xpis: You can leave me messages in PM.. or e-mail me at my nickname at zzxc dot net
[04:55:00] beau: thanks for ur help
[04:55:00] beau: cya
[04:55:00] xpis: ok
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[04:58:00] Yellow-Snow: how do u check the md5 check sum via windows?>
[05:00:00] dtm: Yellow-Snow: you get a win32 binary that can perform and output an md5 checksum.
[05:00:00] jnunez: Yellow-Snow: there is an app that I use called md5summer
[05:00:00] dtm: and you run it.
[05:00:00] Yellow-Snow: lol aight
[05:01:00] dtm: google is a tool for locating specific information and tools
[05:01:00] jnunez: Crap! Can't kill my xine process
[05:01:00] jnunez: kill -s 15 XXXX should do it correct?
[05:02:00] dtm: jnunez: sudo killall -9 xine
[05:02:00] jnunez: Thanks
[05:07:00] Yellow-Snow: hm
[05:07:00] Yellow-Snow: im disappointed u cant record for like 20 min
[05:07:00] Yellow-Snow: i only want to record the stand up and headlines for leno
[05:08:00] Captain_Murdoch: why can't you? I do it all the time.
[05:08:00] Yellow-Snow: ?
[05:08:00] GreyFoxx: set a custom recording schedule
[05:08:00] Yellow-Snow: oh
[05:08:00] Captain_Murdoch: just set a negative "end-late"
[05:08:00] GreyFoxx: That too
[05:10:00] beau: hey
[05:11:00] beau: anyone dealt with audio troubles in mythtv
[05:11:00] Yellow-Snow: what does everyone record @? high? default? im guessing not low
[05:12:00] GreyFoxx: I record everything at default
[05:12:00] beau: i record at lower end........ i have a pretty low end computer lol
[05:12:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[05:12:00] Yellow-Snow: i record lower right now
[05:12:00] Yellow-Snow: 10 gig
[05:12:00] Yellow-Snow: 20 inch tv? or less idk
[05:12:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[05:12:00] beau: yea, 4 inch lol
[05:13:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
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[05:14:00] Yellow-Snow: hm my commerical detection dosent work
[05:14:00] Yellow-Snow: maybe b/c i don't let it finish recording
[05:15:00] beau: set it to do it after u finish recording
[05:15:00] beau: so whenever it stops it flags them out
[05:15:00] Yellow-Snow: yea
[05:15:00] Yellow-Snow: it didnt stop
[05:15:00] Yellow-Snow: lol
[05:15:00] beau: hmm
[05:15:00] beau: at least ur myth sound is working! dammit lol
[05:16:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
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[05:17:00] beau: i really dnt see why mine isnt working
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[05:19:00] beau: its really.... really....... really annoying lol
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[06:30:00] hpAuto: I just upgraded svn, now all my shows aren't commercial flagged
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[06:31:00] gpx1000: I'm having a weird issue need some help with...
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[06:32:00] gpx1000: I have a pvr350 card... I just did a kernel upgrade, and installed the latest ivtv driver from source.
[06:32:00] gpx1000: long story short, on all new recordings (i.e. livetv, and regular recordings) I have no audio
[06:32:00] gpx1000: The audio works great for the old recorded shows.
[06:33:00] gpx1000: anyone have any ideas?
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[07:08:00] gpx1000: anyone available to help?
[07:09:00] dtm: gpx1000: did you troubleshoot it at a lower level, such as by using xawtv or whatever low level viewer?
[07:09:00] dtm: or 'cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpeg'
[07:11:00] gpx1000: dtm, I'm trying that now.
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[07:12:00] gpx1000: dtm, mplayer doesn't have audio either after doing the cat commend.
[07:13:00] gpx1000: however it says that it's trying to play the audio stream.
[07:13:00] dtm: gpx1000: maybe google for your kernel version and for your card model
[07:13:00] dtm: and "no sound" or "no audio"
[07:14:00] dtm: gpx1000: could it be the mixer?
[07:14:00] dtm: check the record level and muting
[07:15:00] gpx1000: it's the pvr 350... all other audio works great, if I play a mpeg from a different source I have audio.
[07:15:00] dtm: ok so did you or did you not check the mixer?
[07:15:00] gpx1000: I'm guessing somewhere the ivtv source didn't include the msp3400??
[07:15:00] dtm: ok. is its module loaded?
[07:16:00] gpx1000: yes... checked the mixer... nothing is muted...
[07:16:00] gpx1000: ivtv is loaded... msp3400 isn't found...
[07:16:00] dtm: /sbin/lsmod | grep msp3400
[07:16:00] dtm: ok check your kernel config.
[07:17:00] gpx1000: dtm, explain what you mean please.
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[07:22:00] dtm: gpx1000: by what? you configured your kernel source tree, so check that configuration
[07:23:00] gpx1000: I thought msp3400 was supposed to be part of the ivtv install... I misinterpreted what I read then
[07:24:00] dtm: i didn't say anything about msp3400. i dont know what it is.
[07:26:00] gpx1000: oh... msp3400 is supposed to be the thing that captures the audio from the mpeg2 stream for the x50 cards (pvr350 included)
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[08:50:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: you still here?
[08:50:00] dtm: why?
[08:50:00] SlicerDicer-: was wondering if I could ask you a question
[08:51:00] dtm: i'm confused as to whether or not that was the question.
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: are you aware of any issues with xvid4 failing to init with AMD64 and not be able to create xvid stuff
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: that was the idea!
[08:51:00] dtm: i know nothing of amd64
[08:52:00] dtm: BUT I KNOW OF THOSE WHO DO
[08:52:00] dtm: i have a duron.
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: ow
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: thats right
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: and the 300mhz or whatever backend
[08:52:00] ** SlicerDicer- hits his head on the desk **
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: the G3
[08:53:00] dtm: correct
[08:53:00] dtm: i have a 233MHz g3 linux backend and a 350 MHz G3 macos frontend, soon to be 1300 MHz duron frontend.
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[09:24:00] RancidLM: hey hey
[09:24:00] RancidLM: i was woundering if any one has used knopmyth + getting lirc to work? im having problems getting a homebrew serial reciver to work
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[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: well I solved the problem with my mythtv harddrive problems
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:54:00] dtm: wooooo
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: at least with the harddrives acting stupid!
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: my PSU just blew up
[09:54:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: what problem was that
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: the computer is alright but yep it solved the problems
[09:54:00] dtm: k
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: I got a temporary PSU in there to test and see if it works properly now and its great!
[09:55:00] ** SlicerDicer- says huzzah for exploding PSU's **
[09:55:00] dtm: HUZZAH.
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: dtm: least it did not explode like my last one did
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: my last one litterally went BOOM!! and blew capaciters off and dented the casing
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: stunk like shit in the house for days
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: this one only stunk mildly
[09:58:00] dtm: :-o
[09:58:00] dtm: i've never heard of such a thing.
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: well now you have!
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: lesson of the day! dont use cheap PSU's
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: I only use antecs they dont blow like a motha! ;-)
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: those cheap ones that come with a 20$ case dont use it!
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: they explode
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: this one that blew was a antec
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: I should be able to RMA it though thats the good news
[10:00:00] `Gumby: any fedora users here? Just installed mythtv and I cant seem to get my bttv card to play nicely with its sound input. I've chosen "Line" to record in alsamixer, and if I unmute it I hear sound but of course its not in sync with the video... when I set it to mute I hear nothing at all. Anyone have any ideas?
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[10:36:00] dtm: SlicerDicer-: is it under warranty :)
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[10:43:00] laurentpat: hi, is there anybody to help me with lirc ?
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[11:32:00] juski: wow. Plextor ConvertX for under £50 today – nice
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[11:33:00] Kelerion: could that be used as a capture device?
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[11:34:00] juski: Kelerion: yup... supported by mythtv too
[11:34:00] Kelerion: cool
[11:35:00] juski: they came down in price fast
[11:35:00] juski: svid & stereo audio to divx over usb ;-)
[11:35:00] Kelerion: and myth records it as divx?
[11:36:00] juski: dunno...
[11:36:00] juski: maybe not
[11:36:00] Kelerion: so would still have the transcoding to do then
[11:36:00] juski: also does mpeg in hardware
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[11:37:00] Kelerion: it does *look* nice and sleek
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[11:38:00] juski: ahhh just looked in the FM... mythtv only suppports mpeg4 capture with it
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[11:39:00] juski: good way to get extra vid inputs if you're shy of pci slots though ;-)
[11:39:00] Kelerion: yup.. and mpeg4 ain't too bad
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[11:40:00] Kelerion: my pc has 12 usb slots.. that'd be quite a setup.. lol
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[11:40:00] Kelerion: I didn't think usb would be quick enough to handle that kind of throughput though
[11:41:00] Kelerion: must be able to though
[11:41:00] dtm: Kelerion: 11Mbps isn't enough for ya
[11:41:00] dtm: ?
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[11:41:00] dtm: DVDs are about 2 to 6.
[11:41:00] juski: and a good quality mpeg4 will be 2mpbs max
[11:41:00] dtm: i keep my usb 1.1 mpeg2 encoder at < 3Mbps
[11:42:00] juski: the £50 model doesn't have a tuner but hey... analogue is dead now anyway
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[11:42:00] Kelerion: if your feeding everything through it's svideo.. tuner ain't important really
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[11:43:00] Kelerion: okies.. here's a dumb question.. can a dvb card be used as a normal ota tuner?
[11:44:00] dtm: Kelerion: if someone's broadcasting OTA mpeg2!
[11:49:00] Kelerion: well.. thats my camera ordered.. will be here tomorrow :)
[11:49:00] Kelerion: and if it's crap am blaming juski :P
[11:49:00] Kelerion: j/k :P
[11:50:00] juski: yeh just blame someone who doesn't care ;-)
[11:51:00] Kelerion: lol
[11:51:00] Kelerion: well you get blamed for everything else.. you have wide shoulders.. so one more thing shouldn't matter :)
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[11:55:00] juski: so there's Somebody Else's Problem (tm)... Tell Someone Who Cares (tm)... and IDGAF ;-)
[11:55:00] Merlin83b: BOCTAOE.
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[11:56:00] stuarta: morning all
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[11:57:00] juski: Merlin83b: heh
[11:57:00] juski: morning stuarta
[11:59:00] juski: time to switch computers...
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[12:05:00] laurentpat: hi, i need help to configure IR with mythtv, can you help me ?
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[12:11:00] arnbak-: laurentpat, what is your specific problem ?
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[12:20:00] tweak_st: just get lirc working then look at keys.txt and map your remote to those
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[12:42:00] laurentpat: sorry i was out ... still here ?
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[13:05:00] Freman: hey, I'm trying to get my dvb card working... I've got all the modules loaded, and dvbscan works... how can I use mplayer to test?
[13:05:00] Freman: (I'm testing, cos something is broken cos I can't make myth work with dvb)
[13:09:00] juski: Freman: you need to see any of a number of webpages on the subject. try wwww.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html
[13:09:00] Freman: I've actualy got mplayer playing it...
[13:10:00] Freman: I was following one tutorial... but they say to do something in the channel editor... that doesn't exist
[13:11:00] juski: ah yeh that bit's out of date
[13:11:00] juski: what you need to do is get a good channels.conf from a scan
[13:11:00] Freman: I've got 2 of them (c;
[13:11:00] juski: then go into mythtv-setup, in the channel editor...
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[13:11:00] Freman: my channel editor has no dvb page if that's where you're telling me to go...
[13:12:00] juski: then do a scan in there using an initial transponder (multiplex, or whatever)
[13:12:00] juski: put as many details as you can in the boxes provided, working from the channels.conf file
[13:12:00] juski: that should do the trick for scanning channels in mythtv ;-)
[13:13:00] juski: and if I had a pound for every time I've said that in here...
[13:13:00] Freman: I've already got all my chans from xmltv tho )c:
[13:13:00] Freman: oh wow, everytime I start this... I get more settings
[13:13:00] Freman: first time I came through it wouldn't let me define transponders
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[13:16:00] ExUser2: wtf
[13:16:00] ExUser2: i just reburned knoppmyth.. checked the check sum
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[13:16:00] yellow-snow: and it gets stuck at 7%
[13:17:00] yellow-snow: i burned it at 1x also
[13:17:00] yellow-snow: god
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[13:19:00] Freman: wassit mea when scan progress gets stuck at 5%?
[13:23:00] juski: wassit mean? usually means it's got stuck
[13:24:00] juski: try doing it again but put the _right_ data in the fields ;-)
[13:24:00] Kelerion: gits.. camera company just called back.. "Sorry we can't accept Visa Electron cards"
[13:25:00] Kelerion: gotta find someone else now
[13:28:00] Freman: 16% signal isn't very good is it
[13:28:00] stuarta: <50% bad.
[13:29:00] Freman: the stb I have doesn't seem to mind it... unless it's storming
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[13:38:00] Kelerion: ok – done.. another camera ordered from another company.. lol
[13:38:00] yellow-snow: owned
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[13:53:00] juski: Freman – PC tuner cards sometimes have much less sensitive tuners than STBs, and even then the inside of a PC case can be harsh on radio frequency signals
[13:53:00] Freman: I've got GREAT s/n ratio (c;
[13:54:00] juski: and some DVB drivers report the signal strength the wrong way round
[13:55:00] juski: if you had a signal of 16 I doubt a scan would even work
[13:55:00] Freman: worked well
[13:55:00] Freman: the stb reports 80%
[13:55:00] Freman: so yeh, maybe it's backwards
[13:55:00] Freman: cos that would almost be on the money...
[13:56:00] Freman: meh, now I'm stuffed trying to put guide data into the chans
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[13:57:00] juski: use the onair guide for the time being
[13:58:00] Merlin83b: Woo, my new DVB card just arrived. Impressively, the courier delivered it to me at the office (we've had quite a few deliveries from them) even though it's addressed to home.
[13:58:00] Freman: problem is, there isn't exactly one
[13:58:00] Freman: most of the aussie chans have the current show, and the next one
[13:58:00] Freman: I have a datasource... it's just not showing up in myth
[14:00:00] Freman: if I set the xmltv id, shouldn't it take it from that?
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[14:01:00] juski: Merlin83b: wow... some fast move they pulled, eh? ;-)
[14:01:00] Merlin83b: Pretty much.
[14:02:00] juski: Freman: heh if you're in Australia you'd have to use xmltv
[14:02:00] juski: but merely putting the xmltvids in isn't enough – you need to configure the xmltv grabber too ;-)
[14:02:00] Merlin83b: The office is all of 5 minutes' walk from home so it would have been the same courier guy. Nonetheless, Initial CityLink++
[14:03:00] Caveman: http://immir.com/tv_grab_au <-- should be the latest tv_grab_au
[14:03:00] Caveman: pulls data from ninemsn website
[14:03:00] Freman: well, I have an xmltv set up and working, it's getting the data (I'm using the tvguide.org.au one) – It's pretty much a copy of my analog source with a couple of extra chans for digital... and I'm putting the chanID's in the box... but it aint listing
[14:05:00] Freman: Can 2 data sources have the same chan ids?
[14:05:00] juski: Merlin83b: citylink? wow! I normally cringe when I find out it's they who deliver my orders..
[14:06:00] juski: Freman: you can attach 2 tuners to the same video source ;-)
[14:06:00] juski: er... EPG data source (video source)
[14:07:00] Merlin83b: Never had trouble with them myself :-)
[14:07:00] Kelerion: thats twice today a company has said "Sorry, we don't accept Visa Electron cards".. wtf is going on?
[14:07:00] Freman: No I can't (c:
[14:07:00] Merlin83b: And now am even more impressed.
[14:07:00] Freman: I have an analog tuner, and a digital tuner
[14:08:00] Merlin83b: Kelerion: Electrons have lots of wierd restrictions on them.
[14:08:00] Freman: the analog one has extra chans of it's own, the digital one also has extra chans of it's own
[14:08:00] juski: Kelerion: Visa Electron... they're not who Smile use are they?
[14:08:00] Kelerion: I've used these cards for over a year and never once had a problem with it
[14:08:00] Kelerion: dunno.. but mines from Halifax
[14:09:00] juski: Freman: you can still attach the same vid source to the other tuner, as long as they have the channels you want
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[14:10:00] Freman: but what happens when I schedule a recording on one of these "extra" channels and the card is in use... it can't get the extra channel on the other card... but will try anyway?
[14:10:00] Kelerion: juski: got this being delivered tomorrow.. have got sick of looking at cameras so just went with the one the guy on the phone suggested.. lol: http://www.henrys.co.uk/cctv/col1025ir.htm
[14:10:00] juski: don't suppose anyone has the pinouts for a Via TV output encoder lying around do they? want to modify my EPIA board to get RGB directly out of the TV encoder ;-)
[14:11:00] juski: Kelerion: nifty :-)
[14:11:00] yellow-snow: kele what for?
[14:12:00] Kelerion: what do you normally use a cctv camera for?
[14:12:00] yellow-snow: GD
[14:12:00] yellow-snow: it happened again
[14:12:00] yellow-snow: black lines at the end of knoppinstall
[14:13:00] yellow-snow: and it was a clean burn
[14:13:00] Dibblah: Personally, I recommend http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/cctv-camera.htm#D . . . era%202134AI
[14:13:00] juski: yellow-snow: coulda got ubuntu installed & mythtv working by now
[14:14:00] Kelerion: I tried ordering that this morning from *exactly* the same people.. they're in belfast btw
[14:14:00] Kelerion: they don't accept Visa Electron cards apparently
[14:14:00] Dibblah: Shame. They're quite fast and cheap.
[14:15:00] juski: switch banks.. & tell them you're sick of hearing that stupid tw** sing when you ring them up ;-)
[14:15:00] yellow-snow: juski wha?
[14:15:00] Kelerion: lol
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[14:17:00] Dibblah: Wanted a PTZ one... But don't have unlimited cash.
[14:17:00] ** juski has some ptz domes lying around.. and a new IP one **
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[14:19:00] Dibblah: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Colour-Wireless-Video-S . . . cmdZViewItem
[14:20:00] Dibblah: are really nice too.
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[14:21:00] juski: try a dennard 2060 dome.. little bit conspicuous
[14:22:00] possie: is there a list of recommended TV cards cause i got a Haupage card wich doesn't seem to work (Haupage WInTV PVR 26xxx)
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[14:24:00] juski: possie... try PVR250 / PVR150 / PVR500
[14:24:00] ** Freman sighs **
[14:24:00] Freman: well I"ve got everything set up
[14:24:00] Freman: and I go to try and watch tv...
[14:25:00] Freman: and I get this...
[14:25:00] Freman: 2006-02–08 00:24:17.154 taking too long to be allowed to read..
[14:25:00] Freman: 2006-02–08 00:24:26.155 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again...
[14:25:00] Freman: 2006-02–08 00:24:54.186 Waited 14 seconds for data to become available, aborting
[14:25:00] Freman: Couldn't read file: rbuf://192.168.0.21:6543/home/video/ringbuf2.nuv
[14:25:00] Freman: 2006-02–08 00:24:54.258 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
[14:27:00] juski: run mythbackend in a terminal as opposed to as a daemon for a while
[14:27:00] juski: backend will give more useful info
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[14:28:00] Freman: first thing it does is bitch about...
[14:29:00] Freman: 006-02–08 00:28:15.912 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 3.
[14:29:00] Freman: that won't hurt it will it?
[14:29:00] Freman: 2006-02–08 00:28:15.912 DVB#0 ERROR – Unable to find channel in database.
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[14:29:00] juski: Freman: yup
[14:29:00] juski: change the default starting channel to one that exists
[14:29:00] juski: in mythtv-setup
[14:30:00] juski: then restart mythbackend
[14:31:00] juski: 0.19 will at least warn you mythtv is set to start on a nonexistant channel ;-)
[14:31:00] Freman: I'm looking forward to 0.19
[14:32:00] juski: I'm more looking forward to 0.20 but hey not to worry
[14:33:00] Freman: whoooooooooot!
[14:33:00] Freman: it's working!
[14:33:00] Freman: now all I need is to get the spdif working for the analog chans (c;
[14:33:00] ** Freman hugs juski **
[14:34:00] juski: easy tiger :-)
[14:34:00] Freman: hmm
[14:34:00] Freman: my signal is obviously not good enough to drive 10HD... 10SD works fine, HD skips
[14:35:00] possie: juski, ah just looked it up, looks like the PVR500 is a nice one right? :-)
[14:35:00] juski: possie.. two tuners & mpeg encoders on one card
[14:36:00] juski: Freman: what cpu/video card do you have?
[14:36:00] Freman: now I've got heaps of prebuffering pauses (it's recording, transcoding, and now displaying digital)
[14:36:00] possie: juski, you got it aswell?
[14:37:00] juski: possie no – I've got the single tuner version
[14:37:00] juski: freman: hdtv needs oodles of CPU/GPU grunt to decode
[14:37:00] Freman: Tuners: DVico Dual HDTV tuner, Leadtek winfast 2000 xp pro... CPU: Athlon xp 1800 (or is it 1600)... RAM: 1g... Video Out: ATI x800 pro
[14:38:00] Kelerion: I doubt thats enough to playback HD
[14:38:00] juski: freman: you've not got a hope in hell with that ATI card
[14:38:00] possie: juski, which is the pvr 350 ?
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[14:38:00] Freman: why not juski ?
[14:38:00] juski: possie: the pvr350 is the one with built in mpeg2 decoder & tv output.. a waste of money IMHO
[14:38:00] juski: Freman: for an 1800 mhz CPU you need XvMC acceleration.. and you don't get that with ATI cards
[14:39:00] Freman: I thought we did?
[14:39:00] ** Freman shrugs **
[14:39:00] Kelerion: XvMC is nvidia only
[14:39:00] juski: Freman: not in linux you don't
[14:39:00] possie: juski, a waste of money because of the tv output ?
[14:39:00] Freman: it's only there cos the GF2mx died, and then my normal mainboard died... that was a left over
[14:39:00] juski: possie: a waste of money because not everything you will want to watch is mpeg2 ;-)
[14:39:00] Freman: any perticular card you advise on? IE: Don't want to spend another $600 on this
[14:40:00] juski: > nvidia 5200
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[14:40:00] Kelerion: loads of people use those card and highly recommend them
[14:41:00] possie: juski, soon i want to build my own Media Center, friend of mine uses WMCE , i tried running the KnoppMyth version on his computer, but that one din't see the PVR card he had
[14:41:00] juski: I use on in my backend.. it's what I videoed for my mythtv promo video
[14:41:00] Freman: I so badly want to dualcore it, but the budget is pffft after buying the stuff I've got, and I'm saving my bond money
[14:41:00] juski: possie: you need a compatible card, even for MCE
[14:41:00] Freman: oh, lots of prebuffering (v:
[14:42:00] juski: mythtv doesn't have _any_ of MCE's limitations (two tuners.. LAME!)
[14:42:00] Kelerion: *especially* for mce – mce is *picky*
[14:42:00] possie: juski, he uses MCE with that hauppauge card
[14:42:00] juski: mythtv you can mix analogue & digital tuners.. MCE can't
[14:42:00] possie: Kelerion, hmm so my knoppmyth cd (latest version) should detect that card?
[14:43:00] juski: possie: it's possible that card isn't supported by the linux ivtv driver
[14:43:00] juski: trade it for a PVR150 & all will be well
[14:43:00] Freman: Gigabyte N55256D FX5500 256mb 128BIT AGP8X DVI-PORT TVO TwinV <- sound good enough?
[14:43:00] juski: Freman: should be
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[14:44:00] possie: does mythtv also support the feature that TiVo has, that i can selected it to record everything on tv that has to do with topic X ?
[14:44:00] Freman: yes
[14:45:00] Kelerion: custom records can match keywords in title/episodes/descriptions etc
[14:45:00] Freman: in fact, you can make it record anything on any channel on topic x
[14:45:00] Freman: hmmm would the 128 meg 64bit version of that card work just as well?
[14:45:00] possie: woohoo :-) can't wait to get my new house (that's why i need a Media Center)
[14:46:00] juski: Freman: apparently more ram can help XvMC
[14:46:00] Freman: ah ok
[14:46:00] Freman: so can more cpu...
[14:46:00] Freman: (c:
[14:46:00] juski: I mean more GPU RAM ;-)
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[14:47:00] juski: even 3GHz CPUs could do with help.. no point uneccessarily loading your CPU
[14:47:00] possie: does my normal video card matter a lot in a MediaCenter?
[14:48:00] juski: possie: stop saying that word please
[14:48:00] juski: say 'PVR' or 'HTPC' ;-)
[14:48:00] Freman: hehe, DVR or HT... never mind
[14:49:00] Freman: of course, once I put a geforce card in... I have to recompile everything again to enable the nforce flags (love gentoo!)
[14:49:00] juski: possie: if you're on linux, and your CPU is somewhat lacking (<2GHz) nvidia cards are better for you than ATI (especially for HDTV)
[14:51:00] Freman: hey... um... how do I get it to swap tuner? I can't get into any of my hdtv chans cos it's jumped on the analog tuner
[14:51:00] juski: RTFM ;-)
[14:52:00] juski: the y key helps too
[14:52:00] Freman: thanks (c:
[14:52:00] Freman: I should be heading to bed...
[14:52:00] Freman: I take it i CAN run the same channel # on different tuners with different actual channels then (c:
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[14:53:00] Freman: 19967 root 39 17 68536 28m 9.9m R 32.8 3.2 3:33.70 mythtranscode
[14:53:00] Freman: 19655 root 39 17 68656 28m 9.9m R 32.3 3.2 11:05.88 mythtranscode
[14:53:00] Freman: 20149 root 15 0 143m 61m 36m S 23.4 6.9 0:20.88 mythfrontend
[14:53:00] Freman: 20148 root 15 0 156m 21m 11m S 4.0 2.5 0:03.22 mythbackend
[14:54:00] Kelerion: stop doing that.. use pastebin as it says in the topic
[14:54:00] Freman: so I'd be looking for the cpu on Mythfrontend to drop with an nforce card (c:
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[14:56:00] possie: juski, okee PVR :-)
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[14:56:00] possie: juski, MediaCenter == M$ 's term ?
[14:57:00] Merlin83b: Windows MediaCenter edition, yes.
[14:57:00] juski: possie: yup.. and it's a dirty, dirty filthy word
[14:57:00] possie: juski, point taken :-)
[14:57:00] juski: especially when 'centre' isn't spelled properly
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[14:57:00] Kelerion: lol
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[14:59:00] juski: just a personal thing, of course ;-)
[15:00:00] Kelerion: this is getting ridiculous.. thats 3 times now I've had the "sorry we don't accept that card"!
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[15:00:00] Kelerion: sod it.. am just gonna go out an buy one
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[15:00:00] juski: Kelerion: (cough).. computer says no
[15:00:00] ** Kelerion tries to think of a company in Leeds that will sell them **
[15:00:00] Freman: TIs cos they're lazy
[15:00:00] Freman: they cbf dealing with the restrictions, so they don't
[15:03:00] juski: is Visa Electron what they used to call 'switch' ?
[15:03:00] juski: loads of places were arsey about those cards
[15:03:00] Merlin83b: Nope.
[15:03:00] Merlin83b: Switch is now Maestro
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[15:04:00] juski: only thing I can remember about the adverts for that is the stupid rathergood.com animations
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[15:05:00] casey-_: hey
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[15:05:00] casey-_: anyone here know much about lirc?
[15:05:00] casey-_: trying to set it up to transmit to my cable box
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[15:06:00] arnbak-: yes? and your problem is ?
[15:06:00] ** Freman wonders if he can query XvMC status.. **
[15:06:00] casey-_: in the lircrc.conf do i need to set something up other than begin remote? like a begin transmit or something else?
[15:06:00] arnbak-: you need to configure lirc to your specific remote
[15:06:00] casey-_: i have my remote working for accepting commands
[15:06:00] arnbak-: find a lirc.conf file on lirc.org wich fits your remote
[15:06:00] juski: Freman: no point with ATI hardware. seriously
[15:06:00] casey-_: now i want to configure lirc to send ir commands
[15:07:00] arnbak-: yes, use irexec then
[15:07:00] arnbak-: goes in ~.lircrc file
[15:07:00] juski: if you need to know if xvmc is supported in X, do an xdpyinfo command
[15:07:00] casey-_: ircexec, cool lemme look into that
[15:07:00] casey-_: thank you
[15:08:00] Freman: it's not
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[15:11:00] casey-_: wow irexec has almost no docs
[15:11:00] casey-_: heh
[15:12:00] Freman: I've got a mate who's writing a focus aware python version of irexec
[15:12:00] casey-_: is this honestly how people get mythtv working with a set top box?
[15:13:00] arnbak-: casey-_, youve been doing som research on it ?
[15:13:00] GreyFoxx: casey-_: Either using an IR blaster setup or firewire is pretty much how it's done
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[15:14:00] GreyFoxx: when connecting to a stb
[15:14:00] casey-_: arkbak: doesnt look like there is much info on it
[15:14:00] arnbak-: well it is pretty straight forwarded
[15:14:00] casey-_: GreyFoxx: if you use a ir blaster (which i am) you use irexec to send channel changes to mythtv?
[15:14:00] arnbak-: begin
[15:14:00] casey-_: or to your st
[15:14:00] arnbak-: button = Power
[15:14:00] arnbak-: prog = irexec
[15:14:00] arnbak-: repeat = 0
[15:14:00] arnbak-: config = mythfrontend
[15:14:00] casey-_: b
[15:14:00] arnbak-: end
[15:14:00] casey-_: rather
[15:14:00] casey-_: arnbak-: can you show me it changing a channel
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[15:15:00] Dibblah: Hmmm... Does anyone have Myth running on a really old video card?
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[15:15:00] casey-_: like entering the digit 5 or something
[15:15:00] arnbak-: i dont use mythtv with a tv card, so no
[15:15:00] casey-_: heh, k
[15:15:00] Dibblah: No – Video card.
[15:15:00] casey-_: thx
[15:15:00] arnbak-: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_LIRC_for_MythTV
[15:15:00] Dibblah: Ah. I see ;)
[15:16:00] rogier: hello people, I have an issue using mythtv to rip cd's. While it will work with almost all my cd;s, there is one particular cd which it just pops as if ripping was done. But in fact it doesn't do anything.
[15:16:00] casey-_: lemme check that
[15:16:00] rogier: Anybody come across this before ?
[15:17:00] arnbak-: casey-_, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_LIRC heres a bunch of various config files also
[15:17:00] GreyFoxx: casey-_: No, I use a shellscript that sends the command via irsend
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[15:17:00] casey-_: GreyFoxx: could you send me that script?
[15:17:00] GreyFoxx: I don't use it personally, as none of my stuff goes through a STB, but I have used it in the past for others
[15:18:00] casey-_: i guess im just trying to figure out where to interface in mythtv to send ir commands
[15:18:00] casey-_: i mean i can do it from console
[15:18:00] casey-_: i guess that would be in the .lircrc under program mythtv
[15:18:00] GreyFoxx: In mythtv-setup you can tell myth to use a shell script for a particular input for channel changes
[15:18:00] arnbak-: casey-_, and mythtv is supporting lirc ?
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[15:19:00] casey-_: arnbak-: what do you mean?
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[15:19:00] arnbak-: casey-_, is mythv compiled so that it is supporting lirc ?
[15:19:00] casey-_: yes
[15:19:00] GreyFoxx: casey-_: I used this site as a basic howto for the IR blasters I made with some parts and for setting up the software and script. http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . ed_LIRC.html
[15:19:00] casey-_: i have it receiving ir commands now, im able to nav the menu etc etc
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[15:23:00] casey-_: GreyFoxx: thats exactly what i needed
[15:23:00] casey-_: thanks
[15:23:00] GreyFoxx: np
[15:24:00] GreyFoxx: They even have links if you wanna buy a prebuilt IR blaster (if you don't have one already)
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[15:25:00] casey-_: yeah
[15:25:00] casey-_: ihave the media center receiver
[15:26:00] casey-_: which is actually a tranceiver
[15:26:00] possie: the word!
[15:26:00] possie: :-P
[15:26:00] casey-_: so it should work, but i have a sctisys 2000l or whatever the hell as well somewhere in the garage
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[15:31:00] GreyFoxx: Man, setting up vpn's with the new openssh is disgustingly easy
[15:32:00] casey-_: anyone know any good sites for mythtv themes? specifically wanting to see if anyone has done much work on the OSD or guide, i see whats on mythtv.org... didnt know if there were others
[15:33:00] GreyFoxx: There are a few others out there. Project Grayhem is a nice theme that many seem to like (try googling for it) as for OSD's there aren't as many. I've got one here you can try: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/
[15:34:00] rtsai: Isthmus is a nice OSD, you can google for that.
[15:34:00] GreyFoxx: I should do up new screenshots for it and get rid of the old ones that are no longer what it is like now
[15:34:00] GreyFoxx: isthmus is nice, and the new version of it is really nice too
[15:34:00] possie: juski, you happen to know if the AVERMEDIA A 169 is also support by MythTV
[15:35:00] juski: possie: no idea. it's more a matter of whether it's supported by linux or not
[15:36:00] juski: check www.ivtvdriver.org
[15:36:00] juski: and the v4l homepage/wiki
[15:36:00] possie: juski, okee, it need the /dev/video0 ? :-)
[15:36:00] Arkkis: hey guys, any info if mythtv will start working with mysql5 anytime soon?
[15:37:00] GreyFoxx: It already does
[15:37:00] juski: possie: just cut the procrastination & plump for a PVR150 or PVR500 card – guaranteed to work
[15:37:00] GreyFoxx: If you are running SVN or 0.18.-fixes
[15:37:00] Arkkis: GreyFoxx, hmm
[15:37:00] possie: juski, hehe okee :-)
[15:37:00] juski: and FYI ProjectGrayhem can be had from www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem ;-)
[15:38:00] possie: juski, now i need to shop for a LCD or Plasma TV :-) wonder what's better now 1080i or 720p
[15:38:00] Arkkis: GreyFoxx, I'm running gentoo, and I have 0.18.1-r2 installed, as I understand, that means that I should do some fixes?
[15:39:00] ** juski has little knowledge of HDTV apart from the fact it's a _long_ way off in the UK **
[15:39:00] GreyFoxx: Arkkis: Not being a Gentoo user I don't know what sort of packages are available to you
[15:39:00] GreyFoxx: And I run SVN, so even 0.18-fixes is alien to me :)
[15:39:00] Arkkis: hmm, ok
[15:40:00] juski: Arkkis: best thing to do would be to stick to mysql4.x for mythtv 0.18 unless you want to build myth yourself
[15:41:00] Arkkis: well, I currently have mysql5 and some other stuff using it too, any idea how hard is it to downgrade without loosing my db?
[15:41:00] juski: in that case, grab the 0.18.2-fixes branch from svn
[15:41:00] possie: people in here using knoppmyth (version R5A30.2) as well or is KnoppMyth not really a good way to go ?
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[15:42:00] juski: I wouldn't personally recommend knoppmyth to anyone
[15:42:00] Arkkis: juski, had bad experiences about it?
[15:43:00] Arkkis: juski, hmm, maybe I'll have to get the fixes branch, but first I'll have to figure out from where, how and what to do with it =)
[15:43:00] juski: I think there's an ebuild for the 'fixes' branch
[15:44:00] Arkkis: in the current portage?
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[15:44:00] Arkkis: (running sync atm)
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[15:45:00] possie: juski, ow another thing, you got digital television as well? cause i'm wondering how to connect it
[15:45:00] juski: possie: using dvb-t
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[15:49:00] possie: juski, so instead of a PVR500 card i need a DVB-T ?
[15:50:00] juski: possie: for digital TV you need whatever card you need to receive digital TV where you live ;-)
[15:51:00] juski: in Australia/some parts of Europe, there's DVb-T/DVB-C & DVB-S
[15:51:00] possie: juski, i live in The Netherlands
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[15:51:00] juski: well if you have DVB-T in your country, I'd recommend you buy a DVB-T tuner or two
[15:52:00] possie: juski, two ? :-)
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[15:52:00] juski: one is little or no use
[15:52:00] Merlin83b: One is lots of use!
[15:52:00] possie: okee, so acctually i should forget about the PVR500 stuff, if i want digital tv ?
[15:52:00] Merlin83b: Two is more :-)
[15:52:00] juski: and there's only one dual tuner DVB-T card working in linux.. and it's as rare as hen's teeth
[15:53:00] juski: possie: if you want digital tv, forget all about PVR500
[15:53:00] possie: "hen's teeth" ? ehhehe
[15:53:00] juski: and you'll want digital TV.. analogue will soon be no more
[15:54:00] possie: juski, ah perfect :-) so i should look into which dvb-t cards are support in linux
[15:56:00] juski: Hauppauge nova-t, leadtek lr6650, blackgold GDI, Twinhan DVB-T.. the list is extensive.. be careful of Twinhan cards though
[15:56:00] juski: www.linuxtv.org/dvb
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[15:59:00] possie: juski, thanks!
[16:04:00] possie: juski, just found out that my region the use DVB-C good you mentioned the difference :-)
[16:04:00] stuarta: anyone else notice commflag memory usage during the superbowl?
[16:05:00] stuarta: I hit ~1250Mb mem usage by about 90% into a 5hr recording...
[16:06:00] juski: possie: that'd be something to check up with your local cable provider.. they might not offer unencrypted signals
[16:08:00] scopeuk: im prety sure my old provider did that analog ones could even be picked uup by a standard tv
[16:08:00] juski: stuarta: so uk commflagging works then? that's an awful lot of memory being eaten up btw
[16:09:00] stuarta: I know, I'm going to stick it under valgrind when I get a chance..
[16:09:00] stuarta: Suspect it's not 'leaking' but being used.
[16:09:00] stuarta: as for commflagging, it seems to work better the more 'american' a show is :)
[16:10:00] possie: juski, ah okee, guess there teir one support doesn't know that though :-)
[16:10:00] juski: heh. what method works best in the UK? I tried 'all' the other week.. didn't have _any_ joy with that at all
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[16:11:00] scopeuk: what you guys recon is wrogn with this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/White-Label-120GB-ATA13 . . . cmdZViewItem
[16:11:00] stuarta: I use 'all' with varying results.
[16:12:00] stuarta: did find all the superbowl commercials though :)
[16:12:00] stuarta: crap on sci-fi
[16:12:00] johnp1: juski,stuarta: It's a shame you can't specify one per channel, maybe that's not needed though.
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[16:12:00] juski: 'all' wasn't getting me anywhere.. didn't spot a single one on my 0.18 system
[16:13:00] stuarta: I'm always on svn.
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[16:13:00] johnp1: we could do with a system which spots that square at the top right of the screen.
[16:13:00] johnp1: (not that it's always there though)
[16:13:00] juski: it's not always there, so we can't use it
[16:13:00] johnp1: good clue though.
[16:14:00] juski: only ever seen it on live itv shows
[16:14:00] johnp1: channel 4 news as well I think.
[16:14:00] stuarta: there is something in the background (maybe VBI???) that knows when...
[16:14:00] juski: if it's in the VBI data it'll be a _doddle_
[16:14:00] possie: juski, HDTV is not Digital TV or is it?
[16:14:00] juski: possie: yes it is
[16:15:00] johnp1: but since we're using DVB it's probably not VBI (?)
[16:15:00] stuarta: HD=High Definition
[16:15:00] juski: has to be digital or you'd not be able to have more than a couple of channels
[16:15:00] possie: juski, ah okee :-) so dvd-c is hdtv :-)
[16:15:00] juski: johnp1: there's still VBI data in DVB streams I think
[16:15:00] juski: possie: not quite
[16:16:00] juski: HDTV is digtally transmitted
[16:16:00] johnp1: juski: I'll defer on that one.
[16:16:00] juski: has anyone even looked for something like that? seems a little bit obvious
[16:17:00] johnp1: only to us in the UK
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[16:17:00] juski: program start codes.. or whatever in the EIT data too... they'd be a goldmine if everyone was to 'cast them
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[16:18:00] stuarta: juski: seen a device plugged into the back of the sky box, inserted it's own ads in the output stream
[16:18:00] juski: $ky have patented a method of showing ads while users pause/skip recordings :-/
[16:18:00] stuarta: detected the ads being broadcast, switched to it's own info stream
[16:18:00] possie: juski, so for MythTV it's not really important what type of video device is used, as long as it can talk to it via /dev/video0 device ?
[16:19:00] stuarta: this worked off the scart output...
[16:19:00] juski: possie.. more or less, yes. read the docs ;-)
[16:19:00] juski: stuarta: interesting
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[16:19:00] stuarta: the technical details were obviously trade secret, but proves it can be done.
[16:20:00] Beirdo: beer me!
[16:20:00] ** stuarta lobs a beer at beirdo **
[16:20:00] Beirdo: thanks :)
[16:20:00] Beirdo: such fun times
[16:21:00] stuarta: now I fancy a beer, but it's not beer o'clock yet... :(
[16:21:00] ** Beirdo whips a beer at his coworker's head **
[16:21:00] Beirdo: stop grumbling or I'll have to put on headphones! :)
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[16:22:00] Beirdo: all I hear is him pounding on the keyboard and random "fuck OFF" and the like
[16:22:00] Beirdo: think he's having a wonderful day... "un-fucking-believable"
[16:22:00] Beirdo: heheh
[16:23:00] scopeuk: is hsi a windows workstation?
[16:23:00] scopeuk: shutdown -f -r "box name" now
[16:23:00] Beirdo: I think he's fighting with a firewall that won't behave
[16:23:00] scopeuk: ok lol
[16:23:00] scopeuk: i usetodo it to my sister when she refused to tunr off the webcam when i wanted to game
[16:24:00] scopeuk: turn*
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[16:24:00] Beirdo: I'm sure all the drooling guys on the internet hate you for it too
[16:24:00] scopeuk: she aint that age
[16:24:00] Beirdo: I'll just drown him out here... Megadeth should do
[16:24:00] scopeuk: yeh
[16:25:00] scopeuk: megadeath 75 dBi
[16:25:00] Beirdo: ain't gonna hear him now
[16:25:00] Beirdo: they were great in concert
[16:25:00] Beirdo: :)
[16:25:00] scopeuk: :-p
[16:25:00] scopeuk: not a huge fan but i can stand it
[16:25:00] scopeuk: better than 50 bloody cents
[16:25:00] Beirdo: hehe
[16:25:00] scopeuk: more liek no bloody sense
[16:25:00] Beirdo: I'd have to agree there
[16:26:00] Beirdo: but I like most music but rap and country
[16:26:00] scopeuk: unfortunately another sibling of mne finds him fantastic
[16:26:00] scopeuk: so i have to drown him outwith rasmous and greenday
[16:26:00] scopeuk: yeh
[16:26:00] scopeuk: all i know is doesent liek that i have a sub and he doesent
[16:27:00] Beirdo: heheh
[16:27:00] scopeuk: sibling rivalry gotta love it
[16:27:00] Beirdo: I never had that problem... two sisters
[16:27:00] scopeuk: oh yeh and the fact his pc is a 433 with 64 meg of ram runnign windows xp :-p
[16:27:00] scopeuk: 1 brother 1 sister both younger
[16:27:00] Beirdo: Eeek
[16:27:00] scopeuk: yeh i know
[16:27:00] scopeuk: its fine as long as i dont have to use it :-p
[16:28:00] Beirdo: and don't even look at it
[16:28:00] scopeuk: his own fault for refusing to use even 98
[16:28:00] scopeuk: its out hte way
[16:28:00] scopeuk: all i ever do is go steal his keyboard when im working on another system
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[16:30:00] laga: xris: tzhanks a lot :)
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[16:37:00] Umaro: Hey guys.. anyone here gotten the spdif working on a KT333 via AC97 sound chip?
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[16:42:00] Beirdo: we lost our majesty. long live the republic!
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[16:45:00] coffee88: This feels like a bit of a dumb question, but...
[16:45:00] Beirdo: oh oh, here it comes
[16:45:00] coffee88: Can anyone confirm if a DVD drive with a disk in it spins down automagically, or it needs hdparm'ing?
[16:46:00] nuxil: wot is audio-jack?
[16:46:00] Beirdo: if nothing's reading the disk, the disk shouldn't spin AFAIK
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[16:46:00] coffee88: Leaving a disk in seems to make the box a lot hotter, tis all.... Made me wonder.
[16:47:00] Beirdo: something might be periodically checking that the disk is in there maybe?
[16:47:00] Beirdo: dunno
[16:47:00] coffee88: nuxil: Just jack, or audio-jack? I know what jack is meant to do....
[16:47:00] stuarta: coffee88: redhat? fedora?
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[16:48:00] coffee88: stuarta: Gentoo.
[16:48:00] nuxil: yes jack
[16:48:00] nuxil: audio jack from configure --help
[16:48:00] stuarta: not familiar with that one, but the redhat stuff layers crap to automount disks etc.
[16:49:00] coffee88: nuxil: Jack is meant to be like a patch bay, where you can connect inpurt and outputs to programees for sound... Never used it though.
[16:49:00] nuxil: ahh of..
[16:49:00] nuxil: *ok
[16:49:00] coffee88: stuarta: The box shouldn't have any of that. Don't remember installing anything like that, but my memory.....
[16:50:00] nuxil: man i had to disable alot of stuff to get the svn version to compi le
[16:50:00] nuxil: ./configure --disable-distcc --disable-joystick-menu --disable-audio-jack --disable-firewire --disable-xvmc-vld --disable-audio-arts --disable-ivtv
[16:50:00] nuxil: :\
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[18:13:00] xris: wow.. quiet in here today
[18:14:00] beavis: xris: ok, so I'll start ;) I have a big white bar on the settings page
[18:15:00] rsdvd: Hi – has anyone seen this erro before : http://www.paste.me.uk/136.html
[18:16:00] rsdvd: I cannot start mythbackend, it keeps throwing an error with mysql, but I can access the mysql database fine from the command line
[18:16:00] scopeuk: do you use a seperate front end?
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[18:17:00] rsdvd: I do have one.....but I am currently only working from the backend server
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[18:17:00] scopeuk: ok is the frontend off?
[18:17:00] scopeuk: im no expert jsut thinking through what id try
[18:17:00] rsdvd: yes...the actual frontend is not even here at the moment :-)
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[18:18:00] rsdvd: It looks to me like a databse problem......so I backed up that database...dropped it and recreated it...still the same problem
[18:18:00] scopeuk: ok
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[18:20:00] cthompson: anyone know if there's a patch or a plan for a version where you can jump to a channel in the EPG by typing its number on the remote?
[18:21:00] cthompson: that's probably the last thing before I can make the spousal acceptance factor workable and put Myth in front of the wife
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[18:22:00] Kelerion: cthompson: that already works
[18:22:00] cthompson: oh
[18:22:00] cthompson: heh
[18:23:00] cthompson: I haven't used myth since 0.17, and thought from what I read on the docs it didn't work in 17
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[18:23:00] cthompson: I'm just starting to rebuild my system
[18:23:00] Kelerion: works fine and dandy in .18 as far as I know
[18:23:00] cthompson: cool
[18:23:00] cthompson: I need to make EPG work at least similar to the Time Warner/SciAtl Explorer DVR
[18:23:00] cthompson: for the wife and kids
[18:24:00] Blammo[work]: .morning all.
[18:24:00] cthompson: cool
[18:25:00] cthompson: now all I need to do is figure out how to control three TW boxes easily, since they're notoriously bad with blasters, or, were
[18:26:00] Blammo[work]: anyone here doing FireWire with a comcast box? moving, and have a couple of questions...
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[18:39:00] casey-_: cthompson: there is something in the config for that
[18:39:00] casey-_: to have it jumpt o channel when you type in in the epg
[18:39:00] casey-_: i dont think it will tune to the channel ,b ut will change the guide to that channel
[18:40:00] cthompson: casey-_: cool, that was the last thing on my list the last time I set up myth, which was over a year ago.
[18:40:00] casey-_: cthompson: yeah i just installed it the other day
[18:40:00] casey-_: i need to find out if i can have it switch to a channel when i switch to it in the epg
[18:40:00] casey-_: instead of bringing up the stupid record menu
[18:41:00] casey-_: id rather that menu come up if i actually press.... record
[18:41:00] casey-_: heh
[18:41:00] cthompson: I had a whole setup, three PVR250s in a backend box in the basement, disk over NFS to my fileserver, was starting to work on xbox as front end, and we moved to a place where I couldn't get DirecTV to work, so I packed it all up
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[18:41:00] Blammo[work]: cthompson: ouch. Getting ready to move myself, not sure if I'll be able to get OTA HD anymore.. :(
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[18:42:00] cthompson: actually, there used to be a setting where if the program you click on in EPG and the program is either currently running or starts in 5 minutes or less, it would change channels, otherwise it was record menu
[18:42:00] cthompson: that was in 0.17 I know
[18:42:00] cthompson: is that not still there?
[18:42:00] cthompson: Blammo[work]: I can get Time Warner Digital, and HD, and HD over firewire
[18:42:00] cthompson: of course, I have no HD set to display it on
[18:43:00] cthompson: but the TW boxes are awful, apparently
[18:43:00] cthompson: no serial control
[18:43:00] cthompson: and they are very picky about IR blasters
[18:43:00] Blammo[work]: cthompson: Any experience with firewire? I may have no choice but to go comcast FW. :(
[18:43:00] cthompson: no, I haven't done it since I only have SD tvs
[18:43:00] cthompson: I know I've read that people are doing it with the Time Warner boxes successfully
[18:44:00] cthompson: and comcast
[18:44:00] cthompson: of course, comcast could encrypt, I don't know
[18:44:00] cthompson: from what I read, TW here in cincinnati only encrypts movie channels on the firewire
[18:45:00] scopeuk: http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=3&am . . . &e=10401
[18:45:00] xpis: That gives me an idea... a small CMOS censor could be put in front of the DCT2000 remote sensor LED so that sent IR commands could be verified. Slower than serial, but still reliable.
[18:46:00] xpis: (for cable companies, like mine, that disable serial control)
[18:46:00] cthompson: xpis, I'm about to try to figure out how to control the TW boxes over USB
[18:46:00] xpis: cthompson: is the usb interface enabled?
[18:46:00] cthompson: the TW boxes have a USB port that you can plug in a USB keyboard and change channels by typing
[18:46:00] cthompson: and it changes FAST
[18:46:00] xpis: cthompson: well, if it expects a keyboard... it should be easy enough.
[18:47:00] cthompson: I found a chip that might be able to convert parallel or serial to USB keyboard
[18:47:00] cthompson: xpis, you'd think, but nobody makes a device tht can emulate a USB keyboard that you can control with a computer, that doesn't cost like $300 a pop
[18:47:00] cthompson: and I've got three capture cards
[18:47:00] scopeuk: could you not do sometign with a hacked up usb driver (yes i am this amature)
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[18:48:00] cthompson: scopeuk: some people have suggested that you may be able to do it with a "usbnet" cable and a hacked driver
[18:48:00] scopeuk: whould make sense to me
[18:48:00] cthompson: but nobody who knows how to hack usb drivers has stepped forward
[18:48:00] scopeuk: but like i say im prety clueless at hardware level
[18:48:00] cthompson: I found a company that makes a chip that takes serial or parallel in and spits out USB keyboard. $10 a chip]
[18:48:00] cthompson: but they have this freaky protocol for input
[18:48:00] scopeuk: ntb
[18:49:00] scopeuk: how much suport circuitory does that need?
[18:49:00] scopeuk: humm
[18:49:00] xpis: cthompson: Are there any AT keyboard<->usb interfaces you could use?
[18:49:00] scopeuk: how "freeky" is it
[18:49:00] cthompson: I'm going to try to see if I can feed it by using perl to twiddle a pin on the parallel port
[18:49:00] scopeuk: you got a link to the documentation
[18:49:00] cthompson: xpis: that's the wrong direction, they make AT->USB, we want USB<-AT
[18:50:00] scopeuk: i can handle the electronic side of these sorts of things(ish)
[18:50:00] cthompson: scopeuk: each character wants 19 bits
[18:50:00] scopeuk: what sort of clock?
[18:50:00] cthompson: let me dig
[18:50:00] scopeuk: ok
[18:50:00] scopeuk: you gota a chip number or a model or manufacturer?
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[18:51:00] xpis: cthompson: Don't converters take an AT keyboard and connect it via USB?
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[18:51:00] xpis: cthompson: Would it be easier to emulate an AT keyboard?
[18:51:00] scopeuk: i belvie ive sen some
[18:51:00] cthompson: xpis, yes,and cheaply, but the timing on AT is more delicate than this
[18:51:00] cthompson: http://www.radovan.org/EasyInput/index.htm
[18:52:00] cthompson: the protocol is in the specs
[18:52:00] cthompson: the clock is just "pull it low, flash your data, go high"
[18:52:00] cthompson: I'm thinking this could almost be done with no support circuitry
[18:52:00] cthompson: though I have no idea what voltage comes out a parallel port
[18:53:00] scopeuk: 5 volts irrc bu dont take that as gosple
[18:53:00] cthompson: and, if you do the data in serial mode, you could, I think, get four chips attached to one lp0
[18:54:00] cthompson: since you need /CLOCK and data0 for each
[18:54:00] cthompson: and you SHOULD be able to twiddle a pin on lp0 fast enough in perl
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[18:54:00] cthompson: and for this, all you really need is 0–9, escape and Enter on the keypad
[18:54:00] cthompson: so you can leave /SHIFT /CRTL and /ALT alone
[18:55:00] cthompson: I'm broke, or I'd already have a few of these chips
[18:55:00] scopeuk: parralel port is 3 volts maximum from what im reading atm
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[18:56:00] cthompson: Supply voltage: 4.2 to 5.5vdc
[18:56:00] cthompson: Supply current: 20mA Max
[18:56:00] cthompson: Input low voltage: 25% of Vcc Max
[18:56:00] cthompson: Input high voltage: 65% of Vcc Min
[18:56:00] cthompson: for the chip
[18:56:00] xpis: cthompson: you could always try the usb driver hack method. Nothing at all should ever be powered by a parallel port, ever, by the way.
[18:56:00] cthompson: 65% of 4.2 is 2.7 volts
[18:56:00] cthompson: should be close
[18:56:00] cthompson: xpis, true
[18:57:00] cthompson: with a bit of support circuitry, you could power it externally
[18:57:00] scopeuk: could always draw off the 5 volt line on a molex conenctor
[18:57:00] cthompson: transistor the input lines
[18:57:00] cthompson: or optoisolate if you're paranoid
[18:57:00] xpis: An easy source of 5V is USB and AT keyboard interfaces.
[18:58:00] cthompson: yeah
[18:58:00] xpis: Or... power it with the cable box itself
[18:58:00] scopeuk: i was jsut thinking the keboard suport will be supplying 5 votls
[18:58:00] xpis: It should be providing 5V to that port.
[18:58:00] cthompson: xpis, right, which acts as a host
[18:58:00] cthompson: that would work too
[18:58:00] xpis: Have you thought of taking apart an old usb keyboard for a control chip?
[18:59:00] cthompson: yeah
[18:59:00] cthompson: you can get USB keypads for $9
[18:59:00] cthompson: but I'm not enough of a hardware guy to figure out how to tell the chip inside which keys are pressed
[19:00:00] cthompson: a keypad is a grid of 3x4, right? 12 inputs? I couldn't figure out how do do that from, say, parallel
[19:00:00] xpis: The usb interface should be a separate chip to the chip that actually processes the keys.
[19:00:00] cthompson: hmmm, maybe
[19:00:00] cthompson: I'll have to look in to that
[19:00:00] cthompson: I've got a spare USB keyboard I can hack
[19:00:00] xpis: It might even be a standard AT interface between them.
[19:01:00] xpis: Or something simpler.
[19:01:00] scopeuk: keybaord is a matrix connected to a small controler
[19:01:00] cthompson: right, but if I had an easy way to create AT protocol, I'd just get an AT->USB convertor and be done
[19:01:00] xpis: Do you have some sort of logic probe you could use?
[19:01:00] scopeuk: cut traces put in transistors between lines controled by paralel
[19:01:00] cthompson: xpis, only a multimeter
[19:01:00] xpis: that won't work
[19:01:00] xpis: you need a logic probe
[19:02:00] cthompson: I'm not a hardware guy, normally
[19:02:00] cthompson: last time I swung a soldering iron was in college in 1989
[19:02:00] xpis: I guess in theory, a multimeter might work... but it's not best practice.
[19:02:00] scopeuk: ps2 keybaords use at comands right?
[19:02:00] cthompson: yes
[19:02:00] cthompson: they're electrically identical
[19:02:00] cthompson: only the plug is different
[19:02:00] xpis: PS2 is just a fancy port for an old protocol.
[19:02:00] scopeuk: there very similar but not identical
[19:03:00] cthompson: well, right, but for this exercise they are
[19:03:00] cthompson: AT didn't have windows keys
[19:03:00] cthompson: and volume controls
[19:03:00] cthompson: and odd things
[19:03:00] scopeuk: my ps2 keyabord dosent have most of that stuff
[19:03:00] scopeuk: has windows keys thgough
[19:04:00] cthompson: all I need is 0–9, Enter, Escape. If I want to figure out how to record Pay Per View, I need capital A B and C
[19:04:00] xpis: How did Microsoft ever manage to get a key named after it...
[19:04:00] GreyFoxx: by making their own keyboards
[19:04:00] cthompson: xpis, they built and sold their own keyboard, tied it into a new OS, and other keyboard companies had to follow
[19:04:00] scopeuk: ive seen ps2 to usb adaptors
[19:05:00] cthompson: scopeuk: if I knew how to make a serial or parallel port signal AT keyboard, I'd be done
[19:05:00] scopeuk: ok
[19:05:00] cthompson: AT->USB is $2
[19:06:00] cthompson: I read the protocol spec a while back, and thought "I don't know how to do that"
[19:06:00] xpis: Surely there is some AT keyboard emulator used for mass hosted servers, for example.
[19:06:00] scopeuk: maby have a look at any open source kvms you cna find
[19:07:00] cthompson: I did a ton of google, but couldn't find any
[19:07:00] scopeuk: ok
[19:07:00] scopeuk: im on google atm
[19:07:00] cthompson: I found one USB->AT device that was $299 a piece
[19:07:00] cthompson: scopeuk: also, I haven't looked at this in about three months :)
[19:07:00] xpis: cthompson: how many AT devices did it control?
[19:08:00] cthompson: xpis one
[19:08:00] cthompson: if you think about it, it's not hard
[19:08:00] cthompson: it's just turning one signal into another
[19:08:00] cthompson: you could probably do it with a pic
[19:09:00] cthompson: if the boxes just had reasonable IR handling, it wouldn't matter
[19:10:00] cthompson: but for these boxes, the LED has to be at least six inches away, and you need to go very slow. It can take 5sec to change a channel
[19:10:00] cthompson: I miss my directv boxes
[19:10:00] cthompson: serial control
[19:10:00] mik3: i've got a new directv box with usb, can't control the dang thing
[19:11:00] cthompson: mik3, no serial/Home Control port?
[19:11:00] mik3: it's got a usb host port, designed for a usb->serial adapter
[19:11:00] cthompson: ah
[19:11:00] mik3: got one of those, but the new boxes use a slightly different command set
[19:11:00] mik3: still haven't been able to completely reverse-engineer the new command set
[19:12:00] cthompson: ah
[19:12:00] xpis: cthompson: does it accept anything other than a keyboard?
[19:12:00] mik3: i can get it to randomly change channels though :)
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[19:13:00] whyz: hey.. perhaps a bit offtopic; anyone using mythtv to watch realplayer files?
[19:13:00] cthompson: xpis, apparently it just looks for a keyboard
[19:13:00] Beirdo: nope
[19:13:00] Beirdo: they might use mythvideo though
[19:13:00] cthompson: it can't use like a USB drive for more storage
[19:13:00] brendan: hi, I'm looking for some documentation on the nuppel video format produced by mythtranscode. I thought nuv was just for rtjpeg but mp4 transcodes don't seem to be normal mp4 files?
[19:14:00] xpis: cthompson: well, since there doesn't seem to be any commodity hardware to do this... you might just have to hack a usb driver. (and release the patches, of course)
[19:15:00] cthompson: xpis, of course
[19:15:00] cthompson: either that or figure out a hardware solution that's not $300
[19:15:00] cthompson: see
[19:15:00] cthompson: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . tegory=15071
[19:15:00] cthompson: I've got three of those, but obstructed view south
[19:15:00] cthompson: those work great
[19:16:00] xpis: Just figure out the usb keyboard protocol.. and make the usb driver put the data.
[19:16:00] cthompson: xpis, my C is 15 years old
[19:16:00] cthompson: my C++ older
[19:16:00] Blammo[work]: Quicktime: Anyone able to play the newer HD-Encoded Apple Trailers with mplayer? Unable to get them to work right.. Not sure how to get working H.264 support in...
[19:16:00] cthompson: which is why I'm looking for a hardware solution I can drive with perl :)
[19:17:00] xpis: cthompson: a cable would be much more elegant than a circuit
[19:18:00] xpis: Or.. here's an idea... a robot to press the keys.
[19:18:00] scopeuk: Blammo[work] have you tried vlc
[19:18:00] scopeuk: belive that claims support for it
[19:18:00] xpis: You can control the servo robot via perl.
[19:19:00] xpis: (I take it you're looking for something along the lines of.. solid state)
[19:19:00] cthompson: xpis, now you're talkin
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[19:20:00] scopeuk: could you not just use soem sort of solid state switching on lines from an old usb keyboard?
[19:20:00] laga: brendan: transcoding to mpeg4 will result in mpeg4 video in a nuppelvideo container
[19:20:00] cthompson: scopeuk: sure, but again, that was beyond my electronics skills
[19:21:00] scopeuk: cut ad solder a few cables
[19:21:00] scopeuk: you ever taken a keyboard apart?
[19:21:00] brendan: mplayer doesn't seem to like nuv...
[19:21:00] meushi: GreyFoxx: somebody added that?
[19:21:00] cthompson: scopeuk: a LOOOOONG time ago
[19:21:00] scopeuk: there very simple now
[19:21:00] scopeuk: two membranes that touch when prested
[19:21:00] cthompson: there was no USB back then :)
[19:21:00] scopeuk: you jsut cut ad join the two wit hsome from of switching device
[19:22:00] scopeuk: the inside of the keybaod hasent changed
[19:22:00] xris: brendan: only mythtv can play mythtv nuv files
[19:22:00] xris: (and dsmyth filters for windows)
[19:22:00] cthompson: brb
[19:22:00] scopeuk: ;-)
[19:22:00] scopeuk: k
[19:22:00] laga: xris: what about mplayer? i believe gentoo as a 'mythtv' use flag for mplayer. might be third party patches, though
[19:22:00] laga: s/as/has/
[19:22:00] cthompson: xris, I thought mplayer could handle nuv
[19:22:00] brendan: i'm trying to add a new codec and can't figure out a good way to test the output...
[19:22:00] laga: xris: oh, and thanks again for fixing mythrename :)
[19:23:00] xris: laga: mplayer has support for true nuv files, but isaac has changed the format since then, and mplayer never caught up.
[19:23:00] cthompson: now /me really brb
[19:23:00] laga: xris: oh, ok. *shrug* ;)
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[19:23:00] GreyFoxx: meushi: Yeah. Silly people
[19:23:00] xris: mplayer can play myth nuv files, but you can't ff/rw, and audio quickly falls out of sync
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[19:24:00] brendan: it seemed to get the frame rate wrong too on the last mp4 I tried
[19:24:00] laga: hiya Juski
[19:24:00] meushi: GreyFoxx: dodgy people :)
[19:24:00] xris: brendan: yeah. it can't do it well enough to bother.
[19:24:00] xris: easier to just use a hardware encoder card.
[19:24:00] GreyFoxx: What the do on their own end is their own business, but it wont be included in the project itself :)
[19:24:00] laga: GreyFoxx: that was jogibaer8899 (or so), right?
[19:25:00] GreyFoxx: laga: No idea, I just saw it there and removed it
[19:25:00] brendan: xris: yeah, but I need a player to test my codec. I guess I have to figure out how nuv works. are there docs on the format or just myth source?
[19:25:00] xris: brendan: nuv is not quite the same as myth's nuv
[19:26:00] scopeuk: cthompson im thinking you should beyable to cut traces in a eybaord and drop in a few transisitors and switch em via paralel
[19:26:00] xris: what codec would you want to put in, though?
[19:26:00] cthompson: scopeuk: maybe. I'll have to take one apart
[19:26:00] brendan: something called 'speg', a modified xvid that adapts well to varying bandwidth
[19:26:00] cthompson: especially since I really only need ten keys
[19:26:00] brendan: for streaming
[19:27:00] xris: brendan: ahh
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: Man, looking at some of the features requests it looks like people just have not looked at everything Myth can do
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: "options to adjust video hue, contrast, color, brightness via OSD"
[19:27:00] scopeuk: colector ro constantly high layer collector to swiched layer and base to parralel port
[19:27:00] xris: brendan: then you're probably stuck reading through the source
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: That's already there!
[19:27:00] Juski: hi laga
[19:27:00] scopeuk: might be wise to add some resistors for destruction prevention
[19:28:00] brendan: xris: alright :( guess it's the NuppelVideoRecorder::Write... stuff
[19:28:00] cthompson: scopeuk: destruction prevention is always a good thing
[19:28:00] ** scopeuk nods **
[19:28:00] cthompson: I've got a history of destroying things
[19:28:00] scopeuk: yep me too
[19:29:00] Juski: resistors.. for destruction prevention of what?
[19:29:00] scopeuk: been breackign things scince i learnt how to use a screwedriver
[19:29:00] scopeuk: a hackd up usb keyboard
[19:29:00] cthompson: I blew up the first xbox I tried to chip when, with the board out of the case, I plugged it in and set the powersupply daughterboard down on a metallic candy wrapper
[19:29:00] cthompson: zzzzzzzap
[19:29:00] scopeuk: lol
[19:29:00] xris: cthompson: I did something like that with an old black and white mac
[19:29:00] scopeuk: i useualy take thngs apart til lthe point when tey can nlogner be re assembled
[19:30:00] cthompson: it's one of those where you look at it and think "WTF was I thinking?"
[19:30:00] xris: might have been the floppy drive.
[19:30:00] Juski: best way to operate a switch matrix like a keyboard is with opto-isolators.. especially if the controlling device is going to be in another box
[19:30:00] scopeuk: ok
[19:30:00] cthompson: scopeuk: luckily the xbox board was OK, but I had to buy a new power supply
[19:30:00] scopeuk: transistors method is jsut something i understand
[19:30:00] Juski: optoisolators are just transistors on the receiving end ;-)
[19:31:00] scopeuk: yeh
[19:31:00] scopeuk: ive looked at em before
[19:31:00] Juski: only the base is actually a light path
[19:31:00] cthompson: I got this xbox for free. A friend of mine had it, the DVD stopped working, so he tried to open it but had no torx drivers
[19:31:00] scopeuk: moc701 i thinkthe chips were i n a circuti i was looking at
[19:31:00] scopeuk: yeh
[19:31:00] cthompson: so he opened it with bolt cutters and a long screwdriver as a crowbar
[19:31:00] Juski: I hear that there are some PIC micros with ethernet due out soon :-D
[19:32:00] Juski: they might have a use now that mythfrontend has a telnet interface
[19:32:00] cthompson: it does?
[19:32:00] cthompson: cool
[19:32:00] cthompson: if gumstix had the power to decode and display, I'd embed one inside every TV I own
[19:33:00] cthompson: ethernet right into the TV
[19:33:00] GreyFoxx: The telnet interface is nifty. Would make for a good start on a touch screen control panel
[19:33:00] cthompson: is that in 0.19?
[19:33:00] cthompson: or CVS?
[19:33:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[19:34:00] cthompson: nice
[19:34:00] GreyFoxx: SVN/soon to be 0.19
[19:34:00] cthompson: excellent
[19:46:00] laga: Juski: my next posting on mythtvtalk will be #1000 for me. i wonder what i could do to make it more special, hehe ;)
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[20:03:00] Juski: laga: 1000th post is quite a landmark :)
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[20:08:00] Juski: I've now officially given up on mythburn – mjpegtools lets it down
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[20:13:00] laga: Juski: sad :7
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[20:14:00] topher: hey all. my fedora core 4 mythtv box display seems to go dead after a half hour or so of inactivity. i think it's a sleep or power mode setting. does anybody know how to disable this?
[20:15:00] laga: topher: yep, that's the 'xset' stuff in jarods howto
[20:15:00] laga: you probably skipped that
[20:15:00] topher: laga, no
[20:15:00] topher: laga, im positive i skipped it
[20:15:00] topher: :)
[20:15:00] laga: :)
[20:15:00] topher: thanks laga
[20:15:00] laga: no problem
[20:17:00] floffe: does anyone here know if i can just scan through the channels on my pvr-150 before setting them?
[20:18:00] Juski: floffe: not in 0.18
[20:18:00] floffe: :/
[20:18:00] laga: Juski: i'm thinking about a 'screw you guys' posting ;)
[20:18:00] floffe: in other words, i have to enter a bunch of channels, the re-configure when I've figured out which is which?
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[20:21:00] Juski: hrm... wonder if my cflags are right for this system.. been no trouble up to now but maybe...
[20:21:00] Juski: laga: go for it man! ;)
[20:24:00] Juski: just changed my cflags for 'safe athlon xp' in gentoo's wiki.. emerged mjpeg tools this time & it's patched a file
[20:24:00] Juski: so much for giving up, eh?
[20:24:00] Juski: bah... failed
[20:25:00] laga: hehe
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[20:26:00] Juski: right... screw this ebuild
[20:26:00] Juski: time to go get da sauce
[20:26:00] fabjan: Hello, I'm having some problems with the starting channel. It keeps changing to numbers I haven't set.
[20:26:00] fabjan: Would anyone care to point me in the right direction?
[20:29:00] Juski: the starting channel will be the same every time, unless it goes back to a channel you watched last time
[20:29:00] fabjan: it gets set to a number not even in the channel list.
[20:30:00] Juski: how the?
[20:32:00] fabjan: I can be wrong though, I don't have access to that computer atm. It's at my parents', but I don't think they have added any channels.
[20:32:00] fabjan: I'll google a bit until I get there to look at it I guess.
[20:32:00] Juski: got the sauce... just done the confligger, now complying :)
[20:32:00] GreyFoxx: Man, I wish I was more graphically inclined. I need to make several buttons and they all look like crap heh
[20:32:00] Juski: wow... is that like some kind of thinly veiled hint? ;)
[20:33:00] GreyFoxx: Heh, no actually. Just self whipping over my lack of skill in that department
[20:33:00] Juski: apart from 'not crap' how do you want em to look, GreyFoxx?
[20:33:00] Juski: I have a few spare minutes (or 50) waiting for mjpegtools to bomb out of compiling
[20:34:00] Kelerion: you optimist you
[20:34:00] Juski: spoke too soon
[20:34:00] Juski: finished compiling
[20:34:00] GreyFoxx: Well, I'm planning to make a graphical "remote". so I need to come up with all of the common buttons, as well as a few more for other functions not normally found on a remote
[20:34:00] Kelerion: got the cam btw.. went to maplins in the end
[20:34:00] Juski: GreyFoxx... that's more a weekend job I think but I can certainly do that.. anything to keep me away from theming
[20:34:00] fabjan: Can I like set some script to set the starting channel before mythbackend starts at bootup?
[20:34:00] fabjan: They're running Knoppmyth and I'm a linux-newbie.
[20:34:00] Kelerion: just trying to set it up on a slave BE now
[20:34:00] Juski: Kelerion: result!
[20:35:00] GreyFoxx: Juski, I'd more than appreciate any assistance :)
[20:35:00] Kelerion: 130 quid for a damn camera.. these kids are expensive
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[20:36:00] VirJenny: Hi, can i add a video source (IE: S-VIDEO) without adding a Channel Line up to it?
[20:36:00] ** Juski whispers to GreyFoxx... "cool" **
[20:36:00] ivor: Kelerion: did you find anything for capturing the images?
[20:37:00] Juski: VirJenny: quick answer: not really
[20:37:00] Juski: mythtv != VCR
[20:37:00] VirJenny: Juski: BUT i have no means of changing channels!
[20:38:00] Juski: oops
[20:38:00] Juski: then you'll need to get a means of changing channels
[20:38:00] VirJenny: Juski: via the computer
[20:38:00] Kelerion: ivor: yup.. myth :)
[20:38:00] VirJenny: Juski: no way of just contruscting source with 1 channel?
[20:39:00] Juski: maybe you could insert 24 hour long programs into the database
[20:39:00] ivor: Kelerion: bah, was hoping you'd found something funky.
[20:39:00] VirJenny: Juski: but how do i set up a channel withouth attaching it to xml source
[20:39:00] Kelerion: myth isn't funky?
[20:40:00] topher: myth is funky cool ... *cough*
[20:40:00] ivor: Kelerion: well in a different way. :) I meant something smart that would be more suited for cctv
[20:40:00] ivor: movement detection and stuff
[20:40:00] Juski: there's an open source CCTV DVR app
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[20:41:00] Kelerion: ivor: try "motion" I saw that a while ago
[20:41:00] ivor: Kelerion: heh I don't want to do the work finding a working solution. I was hoping someone else would. :)
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[20:42:00] Juski: some of my employers' competitors are using tweaked versions of it & bttv capture devices
[20:43:00] Juski: rumour has it that they're gash on a nasty smelling stick, but
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[20:44:00] fabjan: What's wrong if the frontend says: "waited too long for ringbuffer pause"?
[20:46:00] VirJenny: fabjan: means the ringbuffer is to slow
[20:46:00] VirJenny: fabjan: ie: network erro
[20:46:00] VirJenny: fabjan: or somethign crashed ie: your back end
[20:46:00] fabjan: front and backend are on the same machine
[20:46:00] VirJenny: fabjan: check the service
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[20:47:00] fabjan: The machine is a couple of miles from here, but I'll tell them to hook it up to the net so I can ssh and have a look
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[21:09:00] Juski: fuck... still segfaulting.. oh well
[21:09:00] laga: suckage :7
[21:10:00] laga: so is my keyboard, heh
[21:15:00] laga: OT: can anyone comment on the quality of crumpler bags?
[21:16:00] cthompson: laga, there was just a long thread on "manbags" on the 43Folders google group and several people commented how much they loved their crumpler bags
[21:16:00] laga: thanks :)
[21:16:00] meushi: laga: I've read a lot of good things about them
[21:17:00] Juski: what on Earth are crumpler bags?
[21:17:00] meushi: Juski: backpacks and laptop bags
[21:17:00] Juski: ahh
[21:17:00] laga: cool. i'm currently finishing my email to them. i need to get a bag for a 14,1" laptop and a ring binder but i'm not sure which bag to get
[21:17:00] cthompson: http://groups.google.com/group/43Folders/brow . . . 31cec171d507
[21:18:00] Juski: there are google groups about laptop bags 8-o
[21:18:00] laga: there are news groups about worse stuff, trust me
[21:18:00] cthompson: laptop bag midget goat nun fetish pics
[21:19:00] meushi: laga: don't tell :p
[21:19:00] cthompson: in black and white
[21:19:00] stuarta: juski: commflagging works some of the time :)
[21:19:00] meushi: or in technicolor
[21:19:00] cthompson: meushi: no, the people that like it in color are freaks
[21:19:00] meushi: laga: I'm quite happy with a Hedgren for my 12" powerbook... carries loads
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[21:21:00] cthompson: I use a cheap $19 Eastpak Backpack I bought on sale at Back-To-School time a few years ago
[21:21:00] cthompson: has a padded laptop slot
[21:21:00] meushi: or simply add a sleeve for the laptop
[21:21:00] laga: eastpak sucks, imho. *shrug*
[21:22:00] cthompson: laga, it's not sexy, sure, but I've had it for ten years, and it looks like new
[21:22:00] laga: i once had my laptop in my eastpak when both of the straps got loose....
[21:22:00] laga: let's say that i wasn't pleased, but at least the laptop didn't get hurt :)
[21:23:00] ** laga complains over the crumpler website in his email **
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[21:26:00] Arkkis: doh, just as when I was about to harass juski about gentoo&myth
[21:26:00] laga: yeah, his user support senses were probably tingling ;)
[21:26:00] laga: but just ask away, there are other knowledgeable people in here
[21:27:00] Arkkis: okay, I heard that mythtv should work with mysql5 if some fixes were used
[21:28:00] Beirdo: the best fix is to install mysql4.1
[21:28:00] Beirdo: :)
[21:28:00] Arkkis: I have a certain version of mythtv installed and I was wondering if I read the gentoo portage just right, as to me it looks like this version should have that fix
[21:28:00] Arkkis: but I'm still having problems
[21:28:00] Beirdo: what was wrong with your previous version of mysql?
[21:28:00] Arkkis: Beirdo, what's the easiest way to downgrade without losing my databases?
[21:28:00] Beirdo: that I dunno
[21:29:00] Beirdo: likely a mysqldump
[21:29:00] Beirdo: and reimport
[21:29:00] Arkkis: Beirdo, nothing, I think I installed it on accident or upgraded, from portage
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[21:29:00] Juski: bastardo
[21:29:00] Beirdo: I don't completely understand why people like to run bleeding edge packages, then wonder why they are borked :)
[21:29:00] Arkkis: there he is
[21:30:00] Juski: random reboot city tonight
[21:30:00] Arkkis: Beirdo, I think I did not have mysql4 installed before
[21:30:00] kormoc: Arkkis, you unmasked the .19_pre ebuilds?
[21:30:00] Beirdo: ahh
[21:30:00] Juski: first time in weeks the pc case side has been back on and... rebootski
[21:30:00] Juski: ggrrrr
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[21:30:00] Arkkis: 0.18.1-r2 is not new enough?
[21:30:00] Juski: thankfully it's just my winblows box :)
[21:31:00] Arkkis: http://www.gentoo-portage.com/media-tv/mythtv/ChangeLog
[21:31:00] Arkkis: I'm trying to understand that page, but I'm not sure if 0.18.1-r2 has that fix or not
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[21:34:00] kormoc: Arkkis, why not just use the .19_pre's that are known to work?
[21:35:00] laga: well, how can you tell that these wil lwork? :)
[21:35:00] Arkkis: kormoc, "known to work" ?
[21:36:00] Arkkis: this is the reason I do not usually install packages like that "[23:29] <Beirdo> I don't completely understand why people like to run bleeding edge packages, then wonder why they are borked :)"
[21:36:00] Arkkis: kormoc, so it works?
[21:36:00] Beirdo: Arkkis: yeah :)
[21:39:00] Juski: just had my farking backend die on me!!!
[21:39:00] Arkkis: Juski, that sucks
[21:41:00] Juski: I over-reacted... only the daemon had stopped running
[21:41:00] Beirdo: that's not quite as bad
[21:42:00] laga: just kick it extra-hard then
[21:42:00] Beirdo: stomp it like it's a protestor
[21:42:00] Juski: bloody stupid channel change script (blush)
[21:43:00] Juski: fixed now though – phew!
[21:43:00] Arkkis: I've been running backend on screen just to see when it dies (darn mysql5)
[21:43:00] Blammo[work]: I have run into a situation where the backend 'appeared' to be up, but nothing was working, IE mythweb, frontend queries, etc... made me temped to try to write some sort of stateful monitor.. .just haven't yet.
[21:43:00] Blammo[work]: happened to me 4–5 times last year
[21:43:00] Juski: /etc/init.d/mythbackend zap
[21:43:00] Arkkis: Blammo[work], running mysql5?
[21:43:00] Juski: seems to sort it out every time ;)
[21:43:00] Arkkis: zap?
[21:43:00] Juski: now to watch some telly at last
[21:43:00] ** Beirdo zaps gentoo **
[21:44:00] Beirdo: static electricity rules
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[21:44:00] Blammo[work]: Arkkis: no, SQL4
[21:44:00] sammylin: question
[21:45:00] sammylin: may i ask a question?
[21:45:00] Arkkis: Blammo[work], you just described my problem exactly, execpt mine dies almost every day
[21:45:00] Beirdo: sammylin: you just did
[21:45:00] laga: Beirdo: well, he asked a meta question
[21:45:00] sammylin: may i ask 2 questiosn?
[21:45:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:45:00] Beirdo: just ask
[21:45:00] sammylin: alright
[21:45:00] sammylin: got everything setup
[21:45:00] sammylin: trying to use firewire capture
[21:46:00] sammylin: blank screen when i go to "watch TV"
[21:46:00] sammylin: goes back to main menu after a min or so
[21:46:00] sammylin: anyone using firewire capture?
[21:47:00] xris: sammylin: run the frontend with -v all
[21:47:00] Blammo[work]: Arkkis: Odd thing about it, when you restart myth, it appears to be running, IE shuts down, complains about it in the log, then starts back up. My 'symptom' is that mythweb never returns, but I'm sure there's some protocol specific way to ask if it's alive, wait XX seconds, then if no response, restart
[21:47:00] xris: it'll tell you why it can't get the tv signal
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[21:47:00] Blammo[work]: xris : do the same for the backend – which is likely where the trouble is, imho..
[21:47:00] sammylin: thanks xris
[21:47:00] Blammo[work]: (sammylin rather)
[21:48:00] xris: Blammo[work]: yes. but best to start with the frontend since it's easier
[21:48:00] Arkkis: oh, ie?
[21:48:00] Arkkis: who uses ie these days ;)
[21:48:00] Blammo[work]: Arkkis: any browser.
[21:48:00] Arkkis: doh, read wrong your line =)
[21:49:00] sammylin: poll: what window manager are u guys using with mythtv?
[21:49:00] GreyFoxx: IceWM here
[21:49:00] Arkkis: kde
[21:49:00] laga: fluxbox
[21:49:00] Blammo[work]: Sammylin: none – autostart
[21:49:00] sammylin: any gripes about gnome?
[21:49:00] laga: no window manager with mythtv? that just asks for trouble with mythvideo etc ;)
[21:50:00] Freman: hmmm have to build an irtransmitter.. so that I can hook up the exteral channel changer... When I go to an analog channel, I want to switch the amp to stereo input... when I go to a digital chan, I want to switch it to spdif input
[21:50:00] Caveman: fluxbox
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[21:52:00] ** xris wonders if it's worth trying to get this MS keyboard working with lirc **
[21:52:00] sammylin: i like using my wireless keyboard as my remote
[21:52:00] sammylin: i get bragging rights, "my remote is bigger than yours"
[21:52:00] xpis: xris: an IR keyboard?
[21:53:00] Freman: I have a LG flatron kb/mouse as a remote... it works REAL WELL most days (c:
[21:54:00] xris: xpis: yeah
[21:54:00] xris: awesome kb and remote.
[21:54:00] Beirdo: if it's an IR keyboard, isn't it just a keyboard?
[21:54:00] xris: no
[21:55:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:55:00] Beirdo: go MS
[21:55:00] xris: it doesn't even work with XP
[21:55:00] Beirdo: wankers
[21:55:00] xris: only works with mce
[21:55:00] Beirdo: sounds like a candidate for the "Office Space" treatment to me
[21:55:00] cthompson: xris, any idea if the protocol is even close to normal?
[21:55:00] xris: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkey . . . aspx?pid=038
[21:55:00] xris: cthompson: ?
[21:55:00] cthompson: RG5/RG6 or something
[21:56:00] cthompson: whatever that IR protocol is
[21:56:00] xris: Beirdo: it's an awesome keyboard.. $80 retail.
[21:56:00] xris: cthompson: well, I'm more concerned about getting the mouse working.. and knowing if lirc can make it work as a normal keyboard for console access
[21:56:00] Beirdo: "awesome MS product" is an oxymoron in my mind :)
[21:56:00] Beirdo: heh
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[21:56:00] xris: Beirdo: MS hardware tends to be really good
[21:57:00] Beirdo: especially the old mice that were rebadged Logitech
[21:57:00] xris: this one WOULD be good, but I suspect the MCE marketing people got in charge and had them f'ck it up to encourage people to buy mce
[21:57:00] Beirdo: yup, I think you'd be right there :)
[21:58:00] xris: there's some chatter on the users list about it.. and some historical stuff on the lirc list. I joined the lirc list to get a definite answer.
[21:58:00] xris: if I can't easily get it working, I'll just sell it like I did the last one
[21:59:00] xris: made $80 on the copy of MCE.. or will when the guy shows up this evening
[21:59:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:59:00] xpis: xris: you could always simulate a keyboard input device with lirc... but you'd have to write support. And of course, this is after you figure out the protocol.
[22:00:00] xris: xpis: there's already a driver for it. just don't know how much the driver supports
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[22:01:00] aVirulence: hi, is there someone that can help me with mythweb svn?
[22:01:00] xris: aVirulence: I'd probably be the one
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[22:01:00] Beirdo: run away, xris :)
[22:01:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:01:00] aVirulence: :P
[22:01:00] Beirdo: what be the problem?
[22:02:00] Freman: my dvb remote has a windows key )c:
[22:02:00] Snecklifter: hello, just updated to latest fedora kernel and msp3400 is failing to load  – im using atrpms
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[22:03:00] aVirulence: xris: okay, I did everything that was suggested for a good installation in the README file, but I get a directory listing when I go to http://localhost/mythweb
[22:03:00] xris: Snecklifter: sounds like a question for the atrpms mailing list.
[22:03:00] xris: aVirulence: is php installed?
[22:03:00] xris: ie. does it work if you then click on mythweb.php?
[22:03:00] aVirulence: xris: yes it is and other applications are running fine, as did mythweb 0.18
[22:03:00] Snecklifter: xris, okay i had searched the log but couldnt see a common prob
[22:03:00] xris: and allowoverride is set up?
[22:03:00] Beirdo: might need the index.php as the auto-index, no?
[22:04:00] xris: Snecklifter: personally, I'd just downgrade the kernel
[22:04:00] xris: Beirdo: no index.php
[22:04:00] Beirdo: ah
[22:04:00] Beirdo: never mind
[22:04:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:04:00] xris: it's all handled via mod_rewrite
[22:04:00] Beirdo: make sure mod_rewrite is active :)
[22:04:00] aVirulence: xris: nah that was what I was coming to: when I click index.php it doesn't work and gives me the go read the README file warning
[22:04:00] Snecklifter: xris, yes my thinking also, first 2.6.15 seems a little problematic
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[22:05:00] xris: aVirulence: there is no index.php file
[22:05:00] stuarta: I quite like 2.6.15. First version that worked well for me.
[22:05:00] sammylin: Freman: I've been seeing alot of remotes with the windows key
[22:05:00] Snecklifter: stuarta, you running fedora?
[22:05:00] stuarta: only at work, myth box is debian
[22:05:00] aVirulence: xris: yeah, I have mod_rewrite loaded, at least it is in my httpd.conf file; yeah sorry I meant mythweb.php
[22:05:00] sammylin: Can you pop that button and replace the picture in side? Or is the picture actually on the button
[22:06:00] stuarta: but both run 2.6.15
[22:06:00] ole_schoola: has anyone built pre-19 on a FC4_x86–64 ?
[22:06:00] Snecklifter: and no probs with loss of sound after upgrading?
[22:06:00] aVirulence: xris: this is what I get: Database Setup Error
[22:06:00] aVirulence: xris: I changed the mysql variables
[22:06:00] xris: aVirulence: what distro?
[22:07:00] stuarta: no, but I have different hardware to you
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[22:07:00] aVirulence: xris: gentoo, I checked the forum and someone seems to have the same problem
[22:07:00] xris: you need to make sure you have the AllowOverride set up correctly... and you need to make sure that mod_env is enabled in your httpd settings
[22:07:00] ** Freman better head off to work **
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[22:08:00] xris: also sounds like mod_rewrite isn't working, which would result in your directory listing problem.. though that may be a weird setup problem with the directory index module overriding mod_rewrite
[22:08:00] psymin: aVirulence: I just set up mythtv and mythweb on gentoo ..
[22:08:00] psymin: aVirulence: You using the vhost USE flag?
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[22:09:00] sammylin: whats the flag to see what use flag u used for a specific package?
[22:09:00] sammylin: -v?
[22:09:00] aVirulence: psymin: I don't use vhost, but I think I have found a possible solution, just a sec
[22:09:00] psymin: equery uses packagename
[22:10:00] Beirdo: man emerge
[22:10:00] aVirulence: sammylin: yes
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[22:12:00] aVirulence: <Directory />
[22:12:00] aVirulence: Options FollowSymLinks
[22:12:00] aVirulence: AllowOverride all
[22:12:00] aVirulence: </Directory>
[22:13:00] aVirulence: xris: that is how it should be isn't it? there is no directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
[22:13:00] aVirulence: xris: I mean no erm, listing in the php.ini file
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[22:16:00] xris: aVirulence: no.. there's likely a /var/www/ below that to override
[22:16:00] xris: generally, httpd.conf turns everything off for /, and then enables it selectively for other subdirs
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[22:21:00] psymin: Can anyone recommend USE flags (or ./configure flags) for vlc when using it with mythstreamtv ?
[22:21:00] aVirulence: xris: yeah that is what I thought about, but there is only a mention of some other directories, maybe you can take a look at my conffile?
[22:21:00] xris: aVirulence: not at the moment. someone else might have time to, though
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[22:22:00] aVirulence: xris: okay
[22:22:00] aVirulence: erm. is there anyone that has time to look at my httpd.conf file? There might be something wrong with the allowoverride settings
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[22:26:00] xris: aVirulence: is there no <directory /var/www> ?
[22:27:00] aVirulence: xris: nope
[22:27:00] xris: weird
[22:28:00] aVirulence: xris: yeah but since that is not in, it should take the default, shouldn't it?
[22:29:00] xris: aVirulence: should, yes
[22:29:00] xris: unless that comes in another file.
[22:31:00] aVirulence: xris: psymin just send me part of his conf-file, so I'm going to try that
[22:32:00] xris: cool, good lyuck
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[22:39:00] awilkins: Hi there : anyone else suffer horrible audio clipping when transcoding DVDs and any tips on solving it?
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[22:47:00] aVirulence: xris: it worked! I'll post the solution on the gentoo forum.
[22:48:00] xris: aVirulence: cool
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[22:49:00] aVirulence: xris: one question btw, I'm if this has been asked before. Do you have any idea if in the future the possibility to add frequencies manually for the channels instead of using freqid and finetuning?
[22:50:00] Chutt: just put the frequency in
[22:51:00] aVirulence: Chutt: in mythweb?
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[22:56:00] Blammo[work]: Anyone here running MythStreamTV with HD content?
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[23:02:00] aVirulence: Chutt: setting the frequency to 200.00 in mythweb gives me Channel(/dev/v4l/video1)::TuneTo(200.00): Error, failed to find channel.
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[23:10:00] ole_schoola: stupid FC4_64
[23:11:00] ole_schoola: cp -R /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib64
[23:11:00] ole_schoola: dud
[23:11:00] ole_schoola: duh
[23:12:00] aVirulence: erm wouldn't it be better to link? instead of copy?
[23:13:00] ole_schoola: i think i did a -l
[23:13:00] ole_schoola: yep cp -Rl /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib64
[23:13:00] ole_schoola: anyway, grrrrr
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[23:14:00] ole_schoola: i'll need to clean it out anyways after SVN pulls
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[23:34:00] sammylin2: ok I'm the mythtv box
[23:34:00] sammylin2: firewire not working
[23:35:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:21:19.121 Read(): reqd=128000, rcvd=0, rept=0, error=0
[23:35:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:21:19.133 write->15 53 QUERY_RECORDER 1[]:[]REQUEST_BLOCK_RI...
[23:35:00] sammylin2: thats what the output is when it in WatchTV mode
[23:38:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:21:20.602 Waited 14 seconds for data to become available, abortingCouldn't read file: rbuf://192.168.1.105:6543/mnt/store//ringbuf1.nuv
[23:38:00] sammylin2: got that as well
[23:39:00] psymin: sammylin2: is /mnt/store on the firewire drive?
[23:40:00] sammylin: psymin
[23:40:00] sammylin: no
[23:41:00] psymin: sammylin: frontend and backend both on the same machine?
[23:41:00] sammylin2: yes
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[23:42:00] ** psymin shrugs. **
[23:43:00] psymin: Guess I can only suggest obvious things like .. verify the permissions =]
[23:43:00] sammylin2: just did that
[23:43:00] sammylin2: touched a file in /mnt/store
[23:43:00] psymin: sammylin: What distro .. outta curiousity
[23:43:00] sammylin2: gentoo
[23:43:00] psymin: ls -ld /
[23:44:00] aVirulence: bye, thanks for your help
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[23:44:00] sammylin2: d-wxr----t 19 root root 4096 Feb 5 20:34 /
[23:44:00] psymin: chmod that to 755 and try again
[23:44:00] ** psymin checks his. **
[23:44:00] cthompson: um
[23:44:00] cthompson: [ct@box ~]% ls -ld /
[23:44:00] cthompson: drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4096 Jan 31 15:17 /
[23:44:00] cthompson: that's my gentoo box
[23:44:00] cthompson: that can't possibly be right
[23:44:00] psymin: it is
[23:45:00] psymin: I've had a number of installs do that
[23:45:00] psymin: really messes with stuff till you fix it
[23:45:00] cthompson: freaky
[23:45:00] dtm: cthompson: what's not right about it?
[23:45:00] psymin: been too lazy to find out what causes it though
[23:46:00] dtm: cthompson: oh you mean his isn't right.
[23:46:00] dtm: ^_^
[23:46:00] cthompson: dtm, owner can't read, group can read but not execute
[23:46:00] cthompson: yeah
[23:46:00] cthompson: r-- on group is pointless
[23:46:00] dtm: lols. i read the scrollback twice on that and missed that line.
[23:46:00] sammylin2: ok i got nothing
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[23:46:00] sammylin2: but i dont get errors
[23:46:00] dtm: sammylin2: check the perms down the tree
[23:46:00] sammylin2: ?
[23:47:00] sammylin2: ls -ld /mnt/store ?
[23:47:00] xanderp: i've got my new frontend built and it seems to be working, just one issue. my pvr350 remote is only being seen (testing with irw) about 50% of the keypresses. is this a known issue that has a workaround?
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[23:49:00] sammylin2: this is the output now, when i try to watch TV
[23:49:00] Blammo[work]: xanderp: in my experience, that's a LIRC issue... timing/spacing
[23:49:00] Blammo[work]: find someone's config (lircd.conf) and copy it
[23:50:00] Blammo[work]: often irrecord gets it wrong
[23:50:00] xanderp: i've copied the one from my backend that did work fine when the 350 was in that box. odd...
[23:50:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:50:01.664 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.105:6543 (try 1 of 5)
[23:50:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:50:01.665 write->13 21 MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 15:
[23:50:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:50:21.678 ReadStringList timeout (quick).
[23:50:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:50:21.678 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:
[23:50:00] sammylin2: 2006-02–07 13:50:21.679 Changing from None to None
[23:50:00] Blammo[work]: xanderp: Same version of LIRC?
[23:50:00] xanderp: lemme check
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[23:51:00] psymin: sammylin2: /etc/init.d/mythbackend status
[23:51:00] xanderp: yup... same ver LIRC
[23:51:00] sammylin2: * status: started
[23:51:00] sammylin2: ;)
[23:51:00] psymin: =]
[23:52:00] xanderp: Blammo[work]: maybe batteries are dying... i can check that.
[23:52:00] sammylin2: keep in mind
[23:52:00] sammylin2: my input device is FireWire from my SA3250HD
[23:53:00] sammylin2: STB
[23:53:00] psymin: sammylin: does that error appear when launching the frontend .. or when doing a specific task with the frontend?
[23:54:00] sammylin2: thats the output when i execute "Watch TV"
[23:55:00] psymin: I have little experience with mythtv, but when I was configuring it a couple days ago, the frontend would crash when I had my inputs set improperly.
[23:56:00] sammylin2: its not crashing for me...
[23:56:00] sammylin2: =]
[23:56:00] sammylin2: just goes back to main menu
[23:57:00] sammylin2: what does ReadStringList timeout ( quick ) mean?
[23:58:00] cthompson: sammylin2: are you sure that your firewire port on the cable box is enabled?
[23:58:00] cthompson: most cable co's disable it until you bitch
[23:58:00] sammylin2: i've confirmed its working
[23:58:00] Juski: GreyFoxx: you still around?
[23:58:00] sammylin2: i was able to record HDTV to my iBook
[23:58:00] sammylin2: using iRecord
[23:58:00] sammylin2: pretty sweet too
[23:58:00] cthompson: then I have no idea :)
[23:58:00] sammylin2: same as me
[23:58:00] sammylin2: lol
[23:59:00] cthompson: got a firewire drive to test with?

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