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[00:08:00] beau: rogier: install lame + lame-dev and also the mpeg123 package i think it is
[00:09:00] beau: rogier: it means it cant find an appropriate decoder for the audio , someone correct me if im wrong
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[00:15:00] rogier: beau, Checking right now if I have those packages......
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[00:19:00] rogier: I'm running gentoo. It seems that lame-dev does not exist for gentoo. I have mpg123–0.59s and lame-3.96.1
[00:22:00] beau: k
[00:22:00] scottder: rogier: how about libmad
[00:22:00] beau: that guy is on the money lol
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[00:31:00] rogier: I also have libmad 0.15.1b
[00:32:00] rogier: I must say, probabely only 1 out of 20 songs doesn't play
[00:33:00] scottder: if you find a song...see if it will play with mpg123
[00:34:00] scottder: may just be corrupt ...who knows
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[00:35:00] rogier: will try, but I know all those songs do play with xmms, totem, rhythmbox, you name it....
[00:36:00] beau: yea
[00:36:00] beau: whats the extensions on the songs?
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[00:40:00] rogier: mp3 it is
[00:40:00] UBL: how is mythmusic like? you browse music by directory or artist/id3tags ?
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[00:43:00] rogier: id3tags it is, but I personally use it as a big jukebox, just throw in all my music in one playlist
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[00:46:00] rogier: But, one example song just plays ok with mpg123 directly, but not with MythMusic
[00:47:00] rogier: I will try some other examples
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[00:49:00] rogier: OK, I have some bad songs as well...... this one doesn;t work
[00:50:00] scottder: what guy? :)
[00:50:00] scottder: ops wrong window
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[01:08:00] casey_: Getting the following error "Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/usr/mythtv/ringbuf1.nuv" when attempting to start mythtv for the first time
[01:09:00] casey_: anyone?
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[01:11:00] scottder: is the mythbackend running?
[01:11:00] Chris97b: happened to a friend of mine, running a PVR-150 w/ the card type set wrong
[01:12:00] casey_: yeah
[01:12:00] casey_: the backend was running
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[01:13:00] foobum: hi all, is anyone using a recent svn build on OS X?
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[01:16:00] casey_: on the backend i see "error unknown audio codec"
[01:16:00] casey_: and unknown video codec
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[01:23:00] casey_: anyone?
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[01:35:00] beau: what r u tring to play/do casey?
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[01:44:00] Chris97b: hello, all; I'm trying to get my capture card up (PVR-150) but having some issues, when I modprobe ivtv, I get the following in dmesg:
[01:44:00] Chris97b: ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[01:44:00] Chris97b: ivtv0: did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory?
[01:44:00] Chris97b: ivtv0 warning: failed loading encoder firmware
[01:44:00] Chris97b: ivtv0 warning: Error loading firmware -3!
[01:44:00] Chris97b: ivtv0: Error -3 initializing firmware.
[01:44:00] Chris97b: ivtv0: Error -12 on initialization
[01:46:00] Beirdo: please don't flood channels like that, use http://pastebin.ca or similar
[01:46:00] Beirdo: and it sounds like your firmware isn't where the driver expects
[01:47:00] Chris97b: but v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw is in both /lib/firmware/ /lib/modules and /etc/hotplug/firmware/
[01:47:00] DSC22: How do I set up MythTV to use my wireless card, ath0... All I see in the options is eth0...
[01:48:00] Beirdo: DSC22, huh? I don't recall EVER seeing eth0 in myth
[01:50:00] Kelerion: in mythphone?
[01:50:00] DSC22: Sorry... wrong chan... that is a knoppmyth question
[01:51:00] Kelerion: ah
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[02:00:00] fatmatt: DSC22: look at /etc/network/interfaces
[02:01:00] fatmatt: and also check that modules.conf (or whatever does modules with your kernel I forget) points your network driver at ath0 though this is probably unnecssary
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[02:11:00] foobum: hi all, is anyone using a recent svn build on OS X?
[02:13:00] ole_schoola: beau: still around?
[02:14:00] ole_schoola: beau: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc4.3
[02:14:00] ole_schoola: beau: read through and check section on mandriva, maybe works for FC4
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[02:20:00] SlicerDicer-: does anybody run a 64bit myth box?
[02:21:00] Cromz: I used to. now it's just a dual 2600+
[02:21:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh
[02:22:00] Cromz: wanted to free up my main machine for the games.. lol ;)
[02:22:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[02:22:00] SlicerDicer-: I am thinking of throwing myth on a 64bit box
[02:22:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[02:23:00] SlicerDicer-: I am just wondering how much faster/improvement mtd will go with doing transcoding when squishing things down really hardcore
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[02:24:00] zach: I'm having a problem with mythtv and live tv... From what I've been reading online, it has to do with the "prebuffered pause"
[02:24:00] Cromz: it does pretty good. I trascoded some of the dvds I own to excellent quality in about 3 to 4 hours.
[02:24:00] SlicerDicer-: Cromz: I am doing my own settings hehe
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[02:25:00] SlicerDicer-: making it go beyond the excellent quality and squishing it further
[02:25:00] zach: Is there a way to turn off the ability to pause live tv?
[02:25:00] SlicerDicer-: delete the hotkey?
[02:25:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[02:25:00] zach: SlicerDicer-: I just don't want it to buffer the live tv =)
[02:26:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh
[02:26:00] SlicerDicer-: dunno
[02:26:00] SlicerDicer-: Cromz: yeah I just learned how to do the compression rules
[02:26:00] SlicerDicer-: and modify them myself
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[02:27:00] SlicerDicer-: Cromz: its pretty cool actually
[02:27:00] SlicerDicer-: default excellent quality does a 1616 bitrate or something like that with 2 pass and does not specify audio and uses divx5
[02:28:00] SlicerDicer-: I have changed the bitrate from 1618 to 993 and I am about to drop it further cause 993 looks really good with what I have been doing
[02:28:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[02:28:00] SlicerDicer-: I want to squish them down to about 700mb for a 2.5 hour movie
[02:29:00] SlicerDicer-: :)
[02:29:00] ole_schoola: SlicerDicer: very big improvement so far with ivtv captures, i'll know about dvb in awhile
[02:29:00] fatmatt: I still haven't worked out how to compress and store stuff
[02:29:00] ole_schoola: SlicerDicer: went from xp mobile +2500 to venice +3500
[02:29:00] fatmatt: SlicerDicer-: do you need to play the compressed files through mythvideo, or does it play via the recorded programmes window?
[02:29:00] Beirdo: well, the bot isn't QUITE done, but it's getting close, it will connect and join channels, but not log yet :)
[02:30:00] xris: zach: that would defeat the purpose of mythtv
[02:30:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: I am running a 1.4.ghz AMD and upgrading to a 3200+ AMD64
[02:30:00] SlicerDicer-: it will more than likely run 1gb or more of ram too
[02:30:00] ole_schoola: you will like that a lot
[02:30:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: what are you using to transcode? just the internal stuff?
[02:30:00] ole_schoola: internal
[02:30:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: yes
[02:30:00] SlicerDicer-: I am modifying all the default variables in the database
[02:30:00] ole_schoola: not much transcoding goin on, mythcommflag hauls
[02:31:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: never been happy with the quality from the ffmpeg stuff...
[02:31:00] SlicerDicer-: added support for xvid4 and am compressing the hell out of stuff
[02:31:00] zach: xris: Can I change the amount it prebuffers then? Because my live tv is really jerky
[02:31:00] xris: but it sure is faster than using ffmpeg directly
[02:31:00] SlicerDicer-: I am using transcode + xvid4
[02:31:00] xris: zach: then turn down the compression quality for livetv
[02:31:00] xris: has nothing to do with the buffers. it's trying to encode/decode/resize at the same time.
[02:32:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: how is that "internal"? or is this not for tv?
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[02:32:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I am using the mythdvd stuff
[02:32:00] ole_schoola: SlicerDicer: i will look into xvid4 when i get dvb straightened out
[02:32:00] SlicerDicer-: it uses mtd right?
[02:33:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: ahh. and what kind of speeds are you getting?
[02:33:00] SlicerDicer-: time to compress it down you mean?
[02:33:00] SlicerDicer-: its taking like 7 hours haha
[02:33:00] SlicerDicer-: its terrible thats why I am going to a 64bit
[02:34:00] Beirdo: xris: gonna remove dcc functionality for now since it won't work for a while anyways
[02:34:00] Beirdo: :)
[02:34:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: ok, as long as you didn't figure something out about making transcode go faster and didn't share it. heh
[02:34:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I was wanting to write some howtos on how to use mythdvd to the full potential :)
[02:34:00] xris: Beirdo: dcc the bot? heh
[02:34:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: ahh
[02:35:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I think it would be helpful
[02:35:00] Beirdo: yeah :)
[02:35:00] Beirdo: it's almost ready to be v0.1
[02:35:00] Beirdo: :)
[02:35:00] xris: nice
[02:35:00] Beirdo: it just doesn't log yet
[02:35:00] Beirdo: heh
[02:35:00] SlicerDicer-: there is nothing really around I had to just fight with myself and pester kormoc over and over and started realising how things worked
[02:35:00] SlicerDicer-: but its very simple though
[02:36:00] Beirdo: it will already connect to several servers, and several channels per server
[02:36:00] Beirdo: all MySQL driven
[02:36:00] xris: I'm still trying to figure out how to get transcode/ffmpeg/mencoder to encode my 1080i recordings. none of them work properly
[02:36:00] xris: Beirdo: nice
[02:36:00] SlicerDicer-: Beirdo: it took me a while to figure out how to use the mysql parts of mythdvd
[02:36:00] SlicerDicer-: and how to use it :) creating my own rules for video sizes etc heh
[02:36:00] xris: now to figure out the sql queries to pull in only an hour worth of conversations when serching.
[02:37:00] Beirdo: now to get the SQL in to do the logging too :)
[02:37:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:37:00] Beirdo: oh, and I do one thread per server
[02:37:00] Beirdo: :)
[02:37:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I will be messing with transcode though alot now so if I find anything interesting I will be sure to let you guys know
[02:38:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: let me know ifyou figure out how to get it to encode 1080i without f'ing up
[02:39:00] xris: Beirdo: lol
[02:39:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I dont even know where I would get a 1080i video from
[02:39:00] SlicerDicer-: heh
[02:39:00] SlicerDicer-: is that HDTV or something?
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[02:39:00] xris: I can give you one if you want... 350 megs for about 3 minutes
[02:39:00] xris: and yeah, it's hdtv
[02:40:00] SlicerDicer-: ouch 350mb for 3 mins
[02:40:00] SlicerDicer-: that hurts haha
[02:40:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: sure shoot it over too me I will mess with it
[02:40:00] xris: sorry, 380M for 8 minutes
[02:40:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh
[02:40:00] SlicerDicer-: still thats pretty hardcore heh
[02:41:00] xris: 9.5G/hour for 1080i
[02:41:00] Cromz: if it's a red shoes or something simular.. I w.. er.. nvm
[02:41:00] xris: http://forevermore.net/files/hdtv_sample.mpg
[02:41:00] xris: Cromz: no, just a quick clip from something on pbs
[02:41:00] Cromz: lol
[02:42:00] Cromz: so like off topic I got my new custom car plates today. woots. '02 v6 mustang. with plates that say 'CROMZ' lol
[02:43:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: so transcode works internal?
[02:43:00] ole_schoola: girlie
[02:43:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: never tried the internal one
[02:43:00] ** ole_schoola ducks behinf his chevelle **
[02:43:00] xris: just want to get it working with nuvexport
[02:43:00] SlicerDicer-: beings that you were talking about it I am just wondering if I can mess with that internal via mtd and get videos to transcode with that and use similar options to what I am for this
[02:43:00] SlicerDicer-: that would be awesome
[02:43:00] xris: and ffmpeg, transcode and mencoder all do the same thing. recording goes wonky with colors
[02:43:00] xris: and I'm not the only one it happens to.
[02:44:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I am basicly using the same options that nuvexport does with what I am doing
[02:44:00] xris: and it only happens (if I recall correctly) when resizing
[02:44:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: makes sense
[02:44:00] SlicerDicer-: your trying to resize?
[02:44:00] Cromz: ole_schoola, come on now.. it was only 17k brand new :P
[02:44:00] SlicerDicer-: what are you trying to resize it down to?
[02:44:00] xris: yeah. I don't want a 9.5G 1920x1080 recording.
[02:44:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[02:44:00] xris: 624x464 is my standard
[02:44:00] SlicerDicer-: ok
[02:45:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah I do 720x480 so I will attempt with that if thats cool
[02:45:00] xris: I think 16:9 goes to 624x352
[02:45:00] ole_schoola: jk cromz, i like the plates, obscure but fits
[02:45:00] Cromz: lol
[02:45:00] SlicerDicer-: hey I got to run to a mexican food joint I will be back in a few
[02:46:00] ole_schoola: just don't get TOO well known by the local gendarme
[02:46:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: anything.. I crop off 2% borders to get rid of broadcast overscan.. ends up making the files a little smaller
[02:48:00] foobum: is anyone using a recent svn build on OS X?
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[03:11:00] kusznir_: hi all: I'm trying to emerge (compile on gentoo) mythtv, and I get this compile error:
[03:11:00] kusznir_: ../../libs/libavcodec/libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so: undefined reference to `postProcess_C'
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[03:16:00] fridge: Has anyone come across a situation where X fonts become incredibly small when plugged into a TV, but on a normal monitor the fonts are normal size
[03:16:00] fridge: ?
[03:17:00] fridge: I have got myth running with all fonts at 48pt, but it's still rather small
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[03:18:00] GreyFoxx: what does this return ? xdpyinfo | grep resolution
[03:18:00] squish102: fridge, i just read something about that on a forum
[03:19:00] ** squish102 goes to look in history **
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[03:22:00] kusznir: ok, I'm using knoppmyth, and just verified that I'm getting 75x75 dpi. How do I fix that to 100x100? (I'm a gentoo user normally, not a knoppix/debian)
[03:22:00] GreyFoxx: I just start x with the command "startx — -dpi 100
[03:22:00] GreyFoxx: "
[03:23:00] GreyFoxx: Or you can edit a couple x config values which I don't remember offhand to make it work out to the same
[03:23:00] squish102: fridge try check this out
[03:23:00] squish102: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . =displaysize
[03:23:00] squish102: talks about displaysize
[03:25:00] fridge: thanks
[03:25:00] kusznir: knoppmyth starts x automagically using gdm.
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: kusznir: then look at the same URL squish: just posted. DisplaySize is the x config value you can edit to accomplish the same thing
[03:26:00] kusznir: already reading :)
[03:26:00] fridge: gah, I'm not registering for an account
[03:27:00] squish102: i know nothing... im a n00b at this too
[03:27:00] squish102: fridge, btw i think that is the most helpfull active forum
[03:30:00] fridge: GreyFoxx: resolution: 29x31 dots per inch
[03:31:00] mrapper: anyone had problems getting mythstream to appear in the menus?
[03:32:00] Beirdo: blah
[03:32:00] Beirdo: if someone does /nick, I will have to (eventually) determine which channel they are in
[03:32:00] mrapper: i've looked high and low.. it sucks having to type: mythfrontend mythstream to run the plugin
[03:33:00] fridge: at 48pt font size it is readable, but my missus will not be happy with it :)
[03:34:00] fridge: on the plus side I can now fit all tv channels and 2 hours of programming into the EPG
[03:35:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: you still around mate?
[03:35:00] mrapper: no takers 'eh?
[03:38:00] kusznir: can mythstream play realaudio streams (or wmp streams, for that matter)?
[03:39:00] rtsai: mrapper: you have to put it into some XML file
[03:39:00] rtsai: anyone else noticing that mythweb tv listings don't seem to 100% correctly decorate upcoming recordings?
[03:40:00] rtsai: Thing show up in mythfrontend and mythweb's "Upcomign recordings" page, but on the "TV Listings" grid page, some upcomign recordings don't get boxed up
[03:41:00] SlicerDicer-: Beirdo: maybe you know offhand is there a database entry that controls mtd internal? I am looking through the database and I dont find it
[03:41:00] SlicerDicer-: ok thats terrible english
[03:42:00] SlicerDicer-: "and I cannot find it"
[03:42:00] squish102: mrapper, i installed knopmyth and it came installed and working
[03:42:00] SlicerDicer-: insert that and remove the dont
[03:42:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[03:42:00] Beirdo: no idea, I don't use mtd
[03:43:00] SlicerDicer-: do you use any of the internal stuff?
[03:43:00] squish102: does any1 have PVR 150 plugged into a HDTV and can tell me how the quality compares to normal SDTV?
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[03:43:00] Beirdo: YAY
[03:43:00] Beirdo: it logs
[03:43:00] SlicerDicer-: heh
[03:43:00] rtsai: squish102: isn't the PVR 150 an input-only card?
[03:43:00] Beirdo: I'm writing a replacement bot
[03:44:00] jnunez: ATI Wonder Elite Tuner and MythTV?? Is it possible?
[03:44:00] squish102: yes
[03:44:00] scottder: last I check it was :)
[03:44:00] SlicerDicer-: squish102: AFAIK the pvr 150 wont take advantage of HDTV stuff
[03:44:00] rtsai: SlicerDicer-: well, you can still watch wide-screen-aspect-ratio content
[03:44:00] squish102: i am just wondering what the record quality is like on that 150
[03:44:00] Beirdo: yeeehaw
[03:44:00] rtsai: can the pvr-150 even do HDTV tuning (OTA?) ?
[03:45:00] jnunez: squish102: I have the PVR 150 and the quality is very good
[03:45:00] SlicerDicer-: rtsai: I am planning on getting a pchdtv card and running it and controlling my cablebox via firewire
[03:45:00] squish102: as i recorded something on my 150, then used mythburn to put on dvd and played on my hdtv and it sucked
[03:45:00] jnunez: No HDTV
[03:45:00] squish102: so i guess i must have screwed something up (wouldnt be the first time)
[03:47:00] Beirdo: xris: v0.1 is JUST about done
[03:47:00] Beirdo: hehe
[03:47:00] jnunez: I have a Sony HDTV and I twin view the cable box and my mythtv output to compare I the quality is not bad.
[03:47:00] Chris97b: quick question, just got mythtv installed, but when I go to 'watch tv' the system completely locks (have to hard reboot) I checked /var/log/mythtv but it's empty (also ran mythbackend over ssh to watch the output, but no errors)
[03:47:00] Beirdo: it isn't logging /nick or /quit yet
[03:47:00] Chris97b: any idea where I can find logs of some kind to figure out what's happening?
[03:48:00] jnunez: Chris97b: I had issues by activating xv in my setup (I didn't install xv) DOH!
[03:49:00] Chris97b: hmm, I don't remember playing with an option for xv, do you know if it's enabled by default?
[03:49:00] jnunez: no. I just tried it because I like to mess with things after I get it working
[03:50:00] Chris97b: lol, as soon as I get it going, I'll be playing with things too
[03:50:00] Chris97b: but under a bit of pressure atm, trying to get it going before the game tomorrow :P
[03:51:00] jnunez: Hold on getting some info to help you
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[03:51:00] Chris97b: cool, thx
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[03:52:00] squish102: Chris97b what distro u running it on?
[03:52:00] Chris97b: FC4
[03:52:00] Chris97b: (following Jarod's guide)
[03:52:00] jnunez: Goto setup, Appearance, Check Run the frontend in a window
[03:52:00] jnunez: quit
[03:53:00] Chris97b: k
[03:53:00] jnunez: Open a shell and run "mythtv-frontend &"
[03:53:00] jnunez: CTRL-TAB to see the shell window and any output
[03:53:00] squish102: Chris97b i'm a linux n00b (well only about 5 years) and eventually gave up on FC4 and just used knoppmyth ;)
[03:53:00] Manolis: Hello – I think I royally screwed up by upgrading to MySQL 5.0.18–7
[03:54:00] Manolis: mythfilldatabase pukes errors like there's no tomorrow
[03:54:00] squish102: jnunez, thanks for the info above
[03:54:00] Manolis: Can someone help me please?
[03:54:00] Chris97b: lol, yea, I'm about ready to ditch fedora, and give it a whirl on gentoo :)
[03:54:00] squish102: frying pan into the fire ;)
[03:54:00] jnunez: squish102: No Prob. Also check syslog and dmesg for any errors
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[03:55:00] jnunez: Chris97b: I had gentoo and felt that it was always behind on MythTV releases. I went with a Debian box and a knoppmyth box
[03:55:00] mrapper: squish102: which version of knoppmyth? i have R5A30.2 installed, and it doesn't seem to be in the menu.
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[03:56:00] jnunez: Manolis: Are you running knoppmyth? if not which distro? What did you upgrade to MySQL 5
[03:56:00] Chris97b: really, I'll have to look into that. Never played with deb, maybe this will give me an excuse :)
[03:57:00] jnunez: You might have to recompile MythTV
[03:57:00] mrapper: rtsai: yeah, i actually did that.. and it still doesn't show up..
[03:57:00] Manolis: jnunez: Debian Sid – I did an "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:58:00] jnunez: Did you have MythTV working before the dist-upgrade or are you trying to install it now
[03:58:00] squish102: mrapper that is the one i have, and it is in the mythweb main page
[03:58:00] mrapper: squish102: i also ran "mythstream-install.sh"
[03:58:00] Chris97b: well, just locked again, no obvious errors in the shell; the last output was 'Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV"
[03:58:00] mrapper: squish102: oh, but what about the interface in mythtv itself?
[03:58:00] squish102: nope didnt see it there
[03:58:00] Manolis: jnunez: Everything (MythTV) was working fine before the upgrade
[03:58:00] jnunez: mrapper: Are you having issues with MythWebStream
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[03:59:00] jnunez: Manolis: put up the errors on pastebin
[03:59:00] mrapper: junez: nope, with mythstream
[03:59:00] Manolis: jnunez: I can still watch recorde programs but have no schedule info
[03:59:00] Cardoe: someone ping?
[03:59:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: yo
[03:59:00] mrapper: jnunez: it doesn't wanna show up in the mythtv interface.
[03:59:00] SlicerDicer-: pong Cardoe
[03:59:00] Cardoe: SlicerDicer-: did someone ping me
[03:59:00] Cardoe: ;)
[03:59:00] jnunez: mrapper: What distro?
[04:00:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe: I did not haha
[04:00:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe: got a moment for a question? I dont know how busy you are hehe
[04:01:00] mrapper: jnunez: knoppmyth r5a30.2
[04:01:00] squish102: mrapper u want the mythstream from mythfrontend?
[04:01:00] mrapper: yes
[04:01:00] Chris97b: lol, getting somewhere now, the system didn't totally lock, just the video (I was still able to ssh in)
[04:01:00] Cardoe: SlicerDicer-: sure
[04:01:00] Chris97b: looks like the *****ing nvidia driver is at it again
[04:02:00] jnunez: I am on a30.1 and I got this to work last night. Actually many of the stream I chose timed out
[04:02:00] Chris97b: kernel: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel
[04:02:00] Beirdo: whazzup, Cardoe?
[04:03:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: nada you?
[04:03:00] squish102: mrapper, is it in your mythweb interface?
[04:03:00] jnunez: Chris97b: That message is always there
[04:03:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe: I am wondering if you are aware of what controls the mtd if its in the database or where its located? I was wanting to see if I could tweak it or something. I am just wanting to start playing with it :)
[04:03:00] mrapper: squish102: lemme check
[04:03:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe: see if i can make it a bit more useful for myself hehe
[04:03:00] mrapper: jnunez: really?? i wonder what the problem is
[04:03:00] Cardoe: SlicerDicer-: I've never actually used mtd
[04:03:00] Cardoe: :(
[04:03:00] SlicerDicer-: dang nobody does haha
[04:03:00] Chris97b: oh really? hmm, I've been having the infamous black screen on boot w/ the nvidia drivers, do I assumed that was the issue
[04:04:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe: I am afraid to start crawling through the db and locating that stuff haha
[04:04:00] Chris97b: atm, if I put nvidia's xorg.conf in, it won't even boot
[04:04:00] Manolis: jnunez: I've posted them here is that ok ? --> http://www.perdignus.com/mytherrors.html
[04:04:00] jnunez: Chris97b: It could be the driver but that message is always there because the Drivers are not open source
[04:05:00] Chris97b: aah
[04:05:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe: I will just start looking through the source like I did with mythdvd and try to see if i can find out how it works heh
[04:05:00] Chris97b: I dunno, I've tried 3 different kernels, and 4 nvidia drivers (both official installer, and atrpms packages) and nothing...
[04:06:00] Chris97b: from reading through the nvidia forums, it looks like a pretty common issue
[04:06:00] Chris97b: *ugh* back to the other vid card
[04:06:00] Chris97b: thx jnunez for the help :)
[04:06:00] squish102: Chris97b, u have a spare harddrive
[04:06:00] Chris97b: I can probably dig one up, yea
[04:06:00] squish102: switch harddrives and try a knoppmyth
[04:07:00] jnunez: Chris97b: Hold up I need to finish helping Manolis
[04:07:00] squish102: it just made my life soooo much easier
[04:07:00] Chris97b: I'm in no rush :) squish: googling it now
[04:07:00] fridge: whoot
[04:07:00] fridge: everything but the font issue is fixed/setup
[04:08:00] squish102: i still have to get over the fact that my main linux FC4 i have to move over to a debian based system now :(
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[04:08:00] Beirdo: heya, Cardoe... was writing a replacement bot...
[04:08:00] Beirdo: hey, MythLogBot: your Java-bloated days are SOOO numbered
[04:10:00] jnunez: Manolis: The issue is with MySQL 5.0 having a reserved word "repeat" and MythTV using "repeat" as a column name
[04:11:00] Manolis: jnunez: ugh, sounds bad or?
[04:11:00] jnunez: I can show you how to fix this but it won't mean that MythTV is going to be able to add recording
[04:11:00] jnunez: You will need to open the script and do a find and replace.
[04:11:00] Manolis: jnunez: So I won't be able to record any more programs even with the fix?
[04:12:00] jnunez: Not sure. If MythTV makes all it's calls with the backtick around the database field names then it should work
[04:13:00] Manolis: jnunez: OK, if you don't mind I'd like to try the fix / search & replace
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[04:13:00] jnunez: hold on. need to search where the script pulls it's SQL statements
[04:14:00] Manolis: jnunez: ok thanks :) take your time
[04:15:00] jnunez: Crap mythfilldatabase is binary. I thought it was a perl script.
[04:16:00] Manolis: jnunez: hrrm any other ideas for a work-around? I'm suprised no one else has run into this or is MySQL 5 very new?
[04:18:00] spader3d: how do i get my vp-1020 towork with mythtv 5a30.2?
[04:18:00] jnunez: MySQL 5 switch to production a few months ago. All of my servers at work are still on 4 because we haven't been able to test our apps on 5
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[04:18:00] Chris97b: Manolis, you could try going to mysql4
[04:18:00] scottder: anyone have a wireless keyboard they'd recommend for mythtv use?
[04:18:00] jnunez: Yeah. Look into a downgrade on Debian
[04:19:00] Manolis: Chris97b: good point, that's what got me into this mess to begin with, I'll check to see if I can go backwards after an "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:19:00] Manolis: Many thanks for your time jnunez
[04:20:00] jnunez: scottder: I am currently looking into the... SN503–02 “Presenter”
[04:20:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: you around buddy?
[04:20:00] jnunez: no prob
[04:21:00] beau: any compiled 0.18.2? im having troubles, still lol
[04:21:00] jnunez: Chris97b: What exactly is your issue with NVidia? Also which card? I have a 4400MX and a 5200MX on my Myth boxes and I wouldn't give them up
[04:21:00] mrapper: okay.. now it's in mythweb, but i get the following: SQL Error: Table 'mythconverg.streams' doesn't exist
[04:21:00] mrapper: i suspect this is because the plugin has yet to be run
[04:21:00] Chris97b: I've loved every nvid card I've owned, until this one...
[04:21:00] Chris97b: it's an FX5500
[04:21:00] mrapper: why wouldn't the damn button show up?? (frustrated)
[04:22:00] jnunez: 5500's are good
[04:22:00] Chris97b: as soon as I load the NV drivers, the system hangs
[04:22:00] beau: look for alternative drivers
[04:22:00] Chris97b: sometimes it's during startup, occasionally it gets all the way to the login screen, and hangs as soon as I type anything
[04:22:00] beau: sourceforge.net is usually good for stuff like that
[04:22:00] jnunez: mrapper: did you see an error during the install? My stream link appears at Media Library -> Internet Stream (at the bottom)
[04:22:00] Chris97b: I've tried 2 different driver versions, using both the nvidia installer script, and the packages from atrpms
[04:23:00] jnunez: Chris97b: which distro?
[04:23:00] Chris97b: the strange thing, is it works flawlessly with my FX5900, and I know the card is good, as it works in my windows machine
[04:23:00] Chris97b: FC4
[04:23:00] beau: good question
[04:23:00] beau: yea
[04:23:00] Chris97b: tried various kernels, stock 2.6.11, 2.6.14 and 2.6.15
[04:23:00] beau: download version?
[04:24:00] mrapper: jnunez: media library.. okay.. lemme look there
[04:24:00] jnunez: Do you get an error in the X logs?
[04:24:00] mrapper: jnunez: and no, no errors
[04:24:00] Chris97b: drivers I tried were 7667 and 8178
[04:25:00] mrapper: jnunez: where is the media library button??? i'm using G.A.N.T
[04:25:00] mrapper: could that be the problem?
[04:25:00] jnunez: What other hardware do you have on the system? Integrated VGA on the MB?
[04:25:00] ole_schoola: beau: you get it sorted out?
[04:25:00] Chris97b: the only way I could get it to function is to go back to the original xorg.conf (which does not load the nvid stuff)
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[04:26:00] Chris97b: yes, mobo has integrated VGA, but I couldn't find a way to kill it off. Let me look again
[04:26:00] jnunez: mrapper: nope. On my box it's where I select Play Games
[04:26:00] beau: ole_schoola: no, not yet lol, i found out how to add the QT dir using a command
[04:26:00] jnunez: Chris97b: Check the bios but if switching the xorg.conf works then it's one of the modules in xorg
[04:26:00] mrapper: jnunez: hmm...
[04:26:00] ole_schoola: Chris97b: using 8178 pkgs for 2.6.15_FC4 kernel right now, no probs with 5200
[04:27:00] Chris97b: was that the installer from nvidia, or packages from somewhere else?
[04:27:00] beau: ole_schoola: QTDIR:$QTDIR:/usr/lib/qt-3.3
[04:27:00] jnunez: There is a module you need to disable to get it to work
[04:27:00] beau: adds it to the path
[04:27:00] beau: then i typed make
[04:27:00] beau: same error
[04:27:00] ole_schoola: try export $QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3
[04:28:00] ole_schoola: is your PATH straightened out?
[04:28:00] jnunez: let me look it up
[04:28:00] beau: um
[04:28:00] beau: its the same as what it was this morning, is that correct?
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[04:28:00] jnunez: mrapper: I'll brb
[04:29:00] ole_schoola: Chris9b: pkgs from atrpms
[04:29:00] Chris97b: really? I couldn't find anything on atrpms for 2.6.15
[04:29:00] ** Chris97b checks again **
[04:29:00] ole_schoola: beau: echo $PATH needs to return /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin, not /usr/lib/qt3/bin
[04:30:00] jnunez: Chris97b: the two modules I have disabled on my XF86Config-4 is "GLcore" and "dri"
[04:30:00] ole_schoola: Chris97b: they were pushed out about two hrs or so ago
[04:30:00] Chris97b: sweet
[04:30:00] ole_schoola: i've been waiting an eternity for 2.6.15 for native dvb driver support for hd5000
[04:31:00] ole_schoola: tried patching and building ikernel (success) but could never get myth built with dvb
[04:31:00] Chris97b: I hear ya, I was hoping to get .15 going so I can add my ATI HDWonder :)
[04:31:00] ** ole_schoola hears angels from on high **
[04:31:00] beau: ole_schoola: here, i just did this
[04:31:00] beau: echo $PATH
[04:31:00] beau: /usr/kerberos/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bi n:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/beau/bin:/usr/lib/qt3/bin::/usr/kerberos/sbin:/sbin:/usr/ sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/beau/bi n:/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin
[04:31:00] ole_schoola: i'm watching HD OTA right now :)
[04:32:00] beau: oh damn i doubled it up
[04:32:00] beau: ole_schoola: never mind, i will sort the error i just made try agin
[04:32:00] ole_schoola: beau: it looks right the second time
[04:33:00] jnunez: Does anyone know if an ATI Wonder Elite work with MythTV? My brother is dropping MCE after he saw my system (with the MythCenter skin)
[04:33:00] DSC22: hmm.. I tried the nvidia-tvout.sample for my nvidia card/tv (of course)... X (and mythtv) are black and white... and live TV flickers...
[04:33:00] beau: ole_schoola: yea, cept for things are in there twice, but i just fixed that lol
[04:33:00] ole_schoola: what's it say now?
[04:34:00] beau: otion_est_mmx.o simple_idct_mmx.o fft_sse.o vp3dsp_mmx.o vp3dsp_sse2.o -L/usr/lib/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lqt-mt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread
[04:34:00] beau: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt
[04:34:00] beau: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:34:00] beau: same thing
[04:35:00] ole_schoola: type echo $QTDIR
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[04:35:00] beau: k
[04:35:00] beau: echo $QTDIR
[04:36:00] beau: /usr/lib/qt3
[04:36:00] beau: ill just add the next dir as well
[04:36:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: what are you writing it in?
[04:36:00] ole_schoola: type export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-3.3
[04:36:00] jnunez: DSC22: you need to set an option to use NTSC-M
[04:36:00] jnunez: mrapper:
[04:36:00] Beirdo: C
[04:37:00] ole_schoola: echo to verify it takes, then make distclean, yadda yadda
[04:37:00] Beirdo: it logs to mysql
[04:37:00] Beirdo: from multiple channels, multiple servers, if so configured
[04:37:00] DSC22: jnunez.. lemme try.. thx
[04:37:00] ole_schoola: Beirdo: gonna give that mysqld a workout, eh?
[04:37:00] beau: ole_schoola: echo $QTDIR
[04:37:00] beau: /usr/lib/qt3::/usr/lib/qt-3.3
[04:37:00] beau: look better?
[04:38:00] Beirdo: nah, this is quite light load for a db
[04:38:00] beau: k
[04:38:00] beau: different errors now
[04:38:00] ole_schoola: Beirdo: i know ;) wrangled MSSQL and Oracle in a past life ;)
[04:38:00] beau: cd libs && make -f Makefile
[04:38:00] beau: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/beau/Desktop/mythtv/libs'
[04:38:00] beau: cd libavcodec && make -f Makefile
[04:38:00] beau: make[2]: Entering directory `/home/beau/Desktop/mythtv/libs/libavcodec'
[04:38:00] beau: Makefile:322: *** target pattern contains no `%'. Stop.
[04:38:00] beau: make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/beau/Desktop/mythtv/libs/libavcodec'
[04:38:00] beau: make[1]: *** [sub-libavcodec] Error 2
[04:38:00] beau: make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/beau/Desktop/mythtv/libs'
[04:38:00] beau: make: *** [sub-libs] Error 2
[04:38:00] Beirdo: beau: cut it out
[04:39:00] Beirdo: use http://pastebin.ca
[04:39:00] beau: um k
[04:39:00] Beirdo: flooding is bad, mmmkay?
[04:39:00] Beirdo: just post the URL :)
[04:39:00] beau: ok
[04:39:00] beau: i didnt understand what i was doing
[04:40:00] Beirdo: no prob.  :)
[04:40:00] DSC22: jnunez: there is already a line Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
[04:40:00] ** ole_schoola gets an stinky fish handy **
[04:40:00] beau: now.... anyone with ideas on that? lol
[04:40:00] jnunez: Are you using SVIDEO?
[04:40:00] DSC22: jnunez.. yes
[04:40:00] Chris97b: hmm, loaded the atrpms packages for 8178 (2.6.15) and it hangs on a grey screen on boot
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[04:40:00] jnunez: There is a setting for that as well
[04:40:00] ole_schoola: beau: gotta fix your QTDIR, how did you build up your FC4 system and get those very old defaults?
[04:41:00] DSC22: I took the nvidia sample jnunez... it also has that setting
[04:41:00] ole_schoola: Chris97b, post yer xorg.conf to pastebin.ca
[04:41:00] Chris97b: booting to su as we speak :)
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[04:42:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I just managed to half my transcoding times Id ont know the quality of the video yet but i will let you know
[04:42:00] SlicerDicer-: ;-)
[04:42:00] beau: ole_schoola: i have no idea
[04:43:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: if this holds true on the 64bit system its going to absolutely fly
[04:43:00] beau: ole_schoola: you sure this is a QTDIR thing?
[04:43:00] jnunez: SlicerDicer-: Are you on AMD 64? How was the install?
[04:43:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: naturally this is estimated transcoding times but the estimated before was 2x the current of about 3 hours
[04:43:00] Chris97b: http://pastebin.ca/40043
[04:43:00] SlicerDicer-: jnunez: next week I am switching my backend over to 64bit I will let you know
[04:44:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: what'd you do?
[04:44:00] SlicerDicer-: if your still interested and I am considering doing 2gb of ram on the backend too
[04:44:00] ole_schoola: if export $QTDIR don't = /usr/lib/qt-3.3 on your distro, it isn't gonna work, gotta fix that
[04:44:00] jnunez: DSC22: Let me see your xorg conf. place it on http://pastebin.ca
[04:44:00] jnunez: SlicerDicer-: Thinking of getting a NVidia 4 Socket 939 MB with 1GB and a AMD 64
[04:45:00] Chris97b: you won't regret the amd64, wouldn't trade my 3500 for anything :)
[04:45:00] ole_schoola: Chris97b: looks like everything in there is kosher
[04:46:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I changed the bitrates around to compress it further and audiorates. Now according to my calulations this should make a very good quality video at 126 mins in length should compress down to 650mb or so and retain quality. I am hoping but at this point its 1.5 hours for the first pass on a 1.4ghz machine
[04:46:00] SlicerDicer-: I think thats pretty impressive considering that my times were 3 hours before
[04:46:00] Chris97b: any idea where the logs would be on that?
[04:46:00] ole_schoola: Chris97b: do you have another 5xxx nvidia card lying about you can pop in real quick? maybe test that one in a winderz box?
[04:46:00] SlicerDicer-: 3 hours first pass 3 and 1/2 the second pass
[04:47:00] SlicerDicer-: I think anyway it took about 7 hours total before
[04:47:00] Chris97b: yep, let me put my 5900 back in there (worked before, but that was pre 2.6.15/8178)
[04:47:00] SlicerDicer-: I will let you know my settings once I get this completed and time it and see quality 100% sure
[04:47:00] Chris97b: shutdown -h now
[04:47:00] beau: ole_Schoola: dont worry i got it
[04:47:00] Chris97b: lol
[04:47:00] jnunez: Chris97b: comment out Load "fbdevhw"
[04:47:00] Chris97b: k
[04:47:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: what does your target compression seem to be for size vs time does yours compress down beyond 650mb for 126 min video?
[04:48:00] SlicerDicer-: I cant remember but I think you said you got about 300mb for a hour of video IIRC
[04:48:00] beau: ole_schoola: export QTDIR:/usr/lib/qt-3.3 we were trying to use $QTDIR, so it was listing /usr/lib/qt3:/usr/lib/qt-3.3 and messing things up
[04:48:00] jnunez: I need a good tutorial for MythGame .18
[04:48:00] beau: ole_schoola: thank you so very much, uve solved a pretty well known, but not well dealt with problem
[04:50:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: 1 hour minus commercials is about 46 mins, the default two-pass xvid encode is 960kbps, which ends up with a file about 350M
[04:50:00] Beirdo: xris, the logger loggeth
[04:50:00] Beirdo: :)
[04:51:00] Beirdo: so I'll have to document the schema :)
[04:51:00] Chris97b: jnunez: commented fbdevhw, and it made it all the way to a login screen, then hung as soon as I started typing
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[04:52:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: alright I will hold off on saying what mine is for the time being cause it could explode in my face and be terrible quality but at this time it looks promising :) but I am using xvid and 2 pass resulting in 25mb under your target size about
[04:52:00] Chris97b: rebooting, gonna see what happens if I let the auto-login kick in
[04:52:00] jnunez: Chris97b: LOL I'm lost!
[04:52:00] Chris97b: yea, me too, worked on that problem for HOURS, then gave up and played with the other myth stuff
[04:53:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: this is all assuming my math calculations are correct and I got straight F's in math at school ;-) "never did homework :P"
[04:53:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: I picked my file sizes to coincide with what most of the random rips on the net are.
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[04:54:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: I am basing mine off of a 126min video approximation as thats the largest a video will be and I dont want the video size to exceed 700mb or thats my target for a 126mb video
[04:54:00] Chris97b: any idea where to look for errors, other than /var/log/messages?
[04:54:00] Chris97b: again the system isn't actually locked, just looks like the graphics locked
[04:54:00] squish102: i bought the pvr 150 without remote, but i have a leadtech 2000 xp (that i could not get working with mythtv) that has remote. could i use that card's remote?
[04:55:00] jnunez: Chris97b: Look at the X11 logs for any lines that start with (WW) or (EE)
[04:55:00] jnunez: squish102: You should if they are all IR remotes
[04:55:00] ole_schoola: beau: congrats, i see the typo now :\
[04:56:00] ole_schoola: Chris: /var/log/xorg.log shed any light?
[04:56:00] squish102: jnunez, install 2 tuners, one will not be used to record as doesnt work, but just give me access to remote?
[04:56:00] Chris97b: pastebin'ing the WW lines now
[04:57:00] squish102: SlicerDicer- what do u use to encode to xvid?
[04:57:00] DSC22: jnunez.. sorry.. had to turn on ssh and copy from terminal :P
[04:57:00] SlicerDicer-: transcode is what I am using right now squish102
[04:57:00] DSC22: jnunez: http://pastebin.ca/40045
[04:57:00] Chris97b: http://pastebin.ca/40046
[04:57:00] jnunez: squish102: is the IR Receiver on that un-used card?
[04:58:00] Chris97b: a few warnings, but I don't see anything fatal-looking
[04:58:00] squish102: the card that does not record (no sound)
[04:59:00] squish102: SlicerDicer- nuvexport? or do u do your own thing?
[04:59:00] SlicerDicer-: squish102: I am using mythdvd atm
[04:59:00] squish102: oh ok
[04:59:00] SlicerDicer-: squish102: but I mean its the same basic principle
[04:59:00] jnunez: DSC22: Try changing SVIDEO to COMPOSITE
[05:00:00] squish102: SlicerDicer- i was just wondering if ppl use nuvexport or if there are other tricks that i dont know of
[05:00:00] SlicerDicer-: squish102: I think nuvexport is the best option atm for doing the myth recorded content
[05:01:00] squish102: thanks SlicerDicer-
[05:01:00] jnunez: Chris97b: I think your conf is defaulting to the monitor. Do you have one plugged in?
[05:01:00] Chris97b: yep :)
[05:01:00] jnunez: To have the monitor and TV you need to have TWINVIEW active
[05:01:00] Chris97b: I don't even have Svideo out configred atm, I figure I'll get the card working, then worry about output to a tv
[05:02:00] Chris97b: what is twinview? (and could it possibly be a problem that I have an svideo cable connected to it?)
[05:02:00] jnunez: sorry working on to many request. DSC22 has the svideo issue
[05:02:00] Chris97b: lol
[05:02:00] beau: ole_schoola: u dont happen to have experience using the xbox as a frontend do u?>
[05:02:00] SlicerDicer-: squish102: mythtranscode builtin that does its thing its "ok" it does a decent job but I would like to see it be able to do more but its kinda questionable on the size/quality vs using something like transcode is extremely reliable
[05:03:00] jnunez: TWINVIEW will mirror the output to both ports
[05:03:00] ole_schoola: beau: nah
[05:03:00] beau: yea
[05:03:00] beau: i got the py extensions for my xbox to do it
[05:03:00] beau: just gotta test it soon
[05:03:00] ole_schoola: Chris97b: unplug that s-vid cable and try, i recall one card borked up because of that
[05:04:00] DSC22: jnunez.. trying now
[05:04:00] Chris97b: k
[05:04:00] SlicerDicer-: squish102: I have used transcode for quite a while but I used prefab scripts to do things for other purposes but I was not aware of how they worked so I dug into it to figure out how it worked. Tore through mythdvd with the assistance of kormoc and started learning how to tweek it :) so as of now I am experimenting with multihour transcodes to see what happens haha
[05:04:00] ole_schoola: beau: this stuff is like crack ;)
[05:05:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[05:05:00] Chris97b: nah, same problem with only a monitor connected
[05:05:00] Freman: Under Information Center / System Status / Job Queue | All my programs show up in there in red, "Job: Transcode Status: Errored"
[05:06:00] Freman: can anyone point me to where I can find out more information about the error, and perhaps even fixing it?
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[05:06:00] kristok: i just broke a surface mount capacitor off my hard drive
[05:06:00] kristok: anyone have a seagate barracuda 7200.7?
[05:06:00] jnunez: CRAP!
[05:07:00] jnunez: How many GB?
[05:07:00] beau: ole_schoola: i need a fix lol
[05:07:00] ole_schoola: kristok: yup
[05:07:00] kristok: 200
[05:07:00] jnunez: kristok: I think I have a dead one
[05:07:00] kristok: im hoping someone has the drive and can figure out what value the cap is
[05:07:00] DSC22: jnunez.. now I've got color!... but still flickers :(
[05:07:00] kristok: pictures here:http://robotics.caltech.edu/~klk/drive/
[05:07:00] beau: ole_schoola: now i got /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmp3lame
[05:07:00] jnunez: DSC22: Could be your refresh rate
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[05:08:00] DSC22: jnunez... I'll go eat... and play with that when I get back..
[05:08:00] DSC22: thanks
[05:08:00] jnunez: no prob
[05:09:00] kristok: jnunez: any chance you could measure a capacitor on it for me?
[05:10:00] jnunez: kristok: I suck at electronics. if you walk me through I get you a reading. I have a old multimeter
[05:10:00] kristok: jnunez: it would have to measure capacitance
[05:10:00] jnunez: let me get it
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[05:12:00] scottder: what do you need to add to a basic config to get the svideo to mirror the same material as the VGA out?
[05:12:00] jnunez: ok the Seagate Drive is a 120 7200.7
[05:12:00] scottder: I have an nvidia FX5200
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[05:13:00] jnunez: scottder: TWINVIEW. it's in the readme for nvidia drivers
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[05:15:00] jnunez: kristok: The multimeter I have a is crappy one that my dad got me when I was in my teens (early 80's), he recently found it and brought it over to me
[05:15:00] kristok: jnunez: oh well, thanks for checking
[05:16:00] jnunez: kristok: I get these drives at computer shows for $5 dollars. They are sold as is. Usually get 3 out of 5 drives working
[05:16:00] jnunez: Where are you located?
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[05:16:00] kristok: jnunez: los angeles area
[05:17:00] jnunez: I could try and pull the controller board if you want it?
[05:17:00] kristok: did you take a look at my pictures?
[05:18:00] jnunez: yup I see the cap on my board
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[05:18:00] kristok: so they look the same more or less?
[05:18:00] MooingLemur: Is there a way to get the PVR-150 tuner to capture in stereo? It seems to tune every channel in mono.
[05:19:00] jnunez: Actually some of the other chips and smds are in a different orientation
[05:19:00] DSC22: jnunez.. could it be a refresh rate issue if it only flickers on video live/playback and not any other time?
[05:19:00] jnunez: DSC22: hmmm could be your tuner card?
[05:20:00] DSC22: hmmm
[05:20:00] beau: any of you tried compiling 0.18.2 and got a lmp3lame error?
[05:22:00] squish102: MooingLemur, i just got a pvr 150 running under knoppmyth 5A30.2 and all i had to do was in the record settings in mythfrontend tv settings to 100% it sounds good
[05:22:00] jnunez: DSC22: it's not your refresh rate. Just looked at your config.
[05:23:00] DSC22: jnunez.. k..
[05:23:00] jnunez: DSC22: look at setup. i think there is a setting to keep playback and live tv the same res as your frontend
[05:24:00] MooingLemur: interesting. I'll try it, but it seems odd that it would tune everything in mono until I maxed the rec level?
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[05:24:00] squish102: mine was never mono, only recorded low
[05:24:00] jnunez: MooingLemur: Check the mixer. cause I get stereo sound out of my PVR 150
[05:25:00] MooingLemur: you tune channels via the built-in tuner?
[05:25:00] squish102: yes i had to change mine to sound not being PVM but MASTER
[05:25:00] MooingLemur: it works fine with the cable box
[05:25:00] jnunez: Yes
[05:26:00] MooingLemur: hmm
[05:26:00] jnunez: I cant get the IR Blaster to work
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[05:27:00] MooingLemur: the IR blaster I have working on the other box
[05:27:00] MooingLemur: and it was an exercise in exercise (and patience) in getting it to work
[05:27:00] MooingLemur: it's extremely short-range
[05:28:00] jnunez: Anyone have a fix for clicking HD? I hear that placing it in the freezer works but my wife will probably try to cook it. LOL
[05:28:00] MooingLemur: well, turning, the rec level up just made it overdriven :P
[05:28:00] jnunez: MooingLemur: I have a separate box just for the MythTV but I just can't get it to work
[05:30:00] jnunez: separate cable box which I have taped the IR blaster too
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[05:33:00] LonEagle: does anyone in here know anything about why mythbackend doesn't seem to be recognizing my tuner?
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[05:34:00] LonEagle: it isn't printing any error messages in the log, even with maximum verbosity
[05:34:00] beau: dudes, what is lraw34?
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[05:34:00] LonEagle: also, i can cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg just fine.
[05:34:00] jnunez: LonEagle: What tuner?
[05:35:00] LonEagle: pvr-150.
[05:35:00] jnunez: LonEagle: Distro?
[05:35:00] LonEagle: debian unstable
[05:35:00] UBL: did you run mythtv-setup?
[05:35:00] jnunez: is ivtv installed? have you tired 4.0.1
[05:35:00] jnunez: tried
[05:35:00] LonEagle: yes i ran mythtv-setup, many many times.
[05:36:00] jnunez: sorry ivtv-0.4.2
[05:36:00] LonEagle: what do you mean is ivtv installed?
[05:36:00] jnunez: IVTV is the driver for the pvr cards
[05:36:00] LonEagle: yes, this all started when i upgraded ivtv from .4.0 to .4.2, and the kernel from 2.4.11 to 2.4.15.
[05:37:00] jnunez: ivtv before or after the kernel? 0.4.2 has a couple of ivtv fixes? Which card are you selecting in myth-setup
[05:37:00] LonEagle: ivtv after the kernel, selecting MPEG tuner in mythtv-setup.
[05:38:00] jnunez: MPEG-2 Hardware (PVR 250/350) should work
[05:39:00] jnunez: check out you dmesg run the following...
[05:39:00] jnunez: dmesg | grep ivtv
[05:39:00] LonEagle: i'm saying ivtv is properly loaded.
[05:39:00] LonEagle: as far as i can tell. no errors in dmesg.
[05:39:00] UBL: he just said cat dev video> foo.mpg works so i'm guessing ivtv works, its mythtv
[05:39:00] LonEagle: yeah. also ivtv-tune works as well.
[05:40:00] jnunez: sorry missed the cat part
[05:40:00] LonEagle: ah.
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[05:41:00] jnunez: what happens when you try to go to Watch TV?
[05:42:00] LonEagle: get a message about no tuners being availab
[05:42:00] LonEagle: available.
[05:42:00] beau: modprobe tuner sometimes helps
[05:42:00] jnunez: tuner works with cat
[05:43:00] UBL: in mythtv-setup, do it again. pick "yes' to delete card/channel settings
[05:43:00] LonEagle: yeah, did it.
[05:43:00] LonEagle: i've re-set up the card many a time
[05:44:00] beau: try /dev/video0 if it doesnt say it allready
[05:44:00] LonEagle: yeah it does say it already.
[05:45:00] LonEagle: as far as i can tell, i've done setup the only way i know how
[05:45:00] jnunez: Goto setup, appearance and click on the line "Run the frontend in a window". then exit and run the frontend from the shell with the following command "mythfrontend &" try accessing WatchTV then switch to the shell to see any errors
[05:45:00] LonEagle: i'm tempted to try to do a brand new myth database and see if that works.
[05:46:00] beau: well
[05:46:00] LonEagle: hold on i don't need to do that, i can run from an ssh terminal
[05:46:00] beau: use ur shell first
[05:46:00] beau: use ur shell, and see what it says, its the best way to figure out errors
[05:49:00] LonEagle: it doesn't say anything.
[05:49:00] mchou: LonEagle: did you bother to read the ivtv readme?
[05:50:00] mchou: LonEagle: I'm certain the "problem" is covered in there
[05:50:00] LonEagle: mchou: i did.
[05:50:00] beau: ur shell says nothing.......?
[05:50:00] beau: nothing at all?
[05:50:00] mchou: grep myth in the readme, you'll know what I'm talking about
[05:50:00] mchou: LonEagle: ^^
[05:51:00] LonEagle: mchou: i saw that in the readme. i know what you're talking about. but perhaps i'm not understanding it.
[05:51:00] LonEagle: mchou: i took that to mean i had to run mythtv-setup and delete and re-add the card. unless mythtv is not calling the tuner the tuner any more?
[05:52:00] mchou: LonEagle: when you did myth-setup what source did you choose?
[05:52:00] mchou: input source
[05:52:00] SlicerDicer-: hi mchou
[05:52:00] SlicerDicer-: your momma wears combat boots!
[05:52:00] mchou: hi SlicerDicer-
[05:52:00] SlicerDicer-: ;-)
[05:53:00] SlicerDicer-: sorry I did not respond too ya too much last night
[05:53:00] SlicerDicer-: I had a pretty bad failure of my system and had to fix it or try
[05:53:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[05:53:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: your momma so fact she got her own zip code.
[05:53:00] mchou: fat*
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[05:53:00] LonEagle: mchou: tuner.
[05:53:00] Freman: hey SlicerDicer-, I'm looking through old logs... did you ever get that "job: transcoding status:errored" fixed?
[05:53:00] Freman: I've got it now );
[05:56:00] LonEagle: mchou: i mean, the options mythtv-setup gives are tuner, composite 0, composite 1, s-video 0, s-video 1.
[05:57:00] mchou: LonEagle: so, select tuner. restart mythbackend. It should work w/o problems
[05:57:00] LonEagle: mchou: but it doesn't. mythbackend acts like it has nothing to record from.
[05:57:00] mchou: bullshit.
[05:58:00] mchou: you RESTART mythbackend?
[05:58:00] LonEagle: yes.
[05:58:00] mchou: what's it say in the myth tv log/consol when you start mythbacked?
[05:58:00] mchou: end*
[05:59:00] SlicerDicer-: Freman: you mean for mythtranscode or what?
[05:59:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou: yeah yeah :)
[05:59:00] LonEagle: mchou: what are you looking for? or should i pastebin it?
[05:59:00] mchou: pastebin
[06:00:00] LonEagle: with -v all or not?
[06:00:00] Freman: Under Information Center / System Status / Job Queue | All my programs show up in there in red, "Job: Transcode Status: Errored"
[06:00:00] mchou: w/o v first
[06:01:00] LonEagle: mchou: incidentally, i also tried upgrading to current svn to see if it was a mysql bug that got patched already.
[06:01:00] mchou: what mysql bug?
[06:01:00] LonEagle: mchou: debian unstable moved to mysql5
[06:01:00] mchou: and that's a bug?
[06:02:00] LonEagle: mchou: mysql added a new reserved word that mythtv uses. a few of the queries changed.
[06:02:00] kristok: jnunez: you still around?
[06:03:00] mchou: LonEagle: well, I cant help you there
[06:03:00] jnunez: Im here
[06:03:00] mchou: I'm using mysql4
[06:03:00] LonEagle: mchou: all the symptoms were the same with the stable myth release.
[06:03:00] kristok: so i actually found a broken 160 gb barracuda
[06:03:00] LonEagle: mchou: pastebin of choise in here?
[06:03:00] jnunez: cool
[06:03:00] kristok: but ive never replaced a controller board before. should i expect it to work or not?
[06:03:00] mchou: kristok: why not warranty it :)
[06:04:00] kristok: mchou: because i broke it myself
[06:04:00] kristok: and i want my recordings now, not in a week :-)
[06:04:00] mchou: kristok: you ever figure out the value for the cap?
[06:04:00] xris: LonEagle: /topic
[06:04:00] xris: LonEagle: not that it matters, but the guy who runs pastebin.ca is a myth user
[06:04:00] kristok: mchou: no
[06:04:00] LonEagle: of course. i'm an idiot.
[06:05:00] mchou: kristok: at caltech I'm sure someone can figure it out for ya :)
[06:05:00] mchou: much easier to replace a cap than the whole controller
[06:05:00] kristok: well, i have the one off the old drive now...
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[06:06:00] jnunez: kristok: I swapped out boards once before but it was for the same model. I got two 120GB for $5 and I used the board from one that clicked to the one that didnt POST
[06:06:00] kristok: i guess i'll see what happens
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[06:06:00] jnunez: Good Luck
[06:06:00] jnunez: Let me know if it works
[06:06:00] LonEagle: http://pastebin.ca/40055
[06:06:00] mchou: kristok: go to the ee supply store in the basement :)
[06:07:00] kristok: mchou: if i knew what value it was i would just stick on any old cap
[06:07:00] kristok: i don't care if it's hanging out or anything
[06:07:00] mishehu: hmm nice topic. but can't I ask a question before engaging my brain? it's much more enjoyable that way.
[06:07:00] mchou: kristok: why dont you measure the one on the other controller board?
[06:08:00] kristok: mchou: because they don't look exactly the same
[06:08:00] mchou: kristok: bah, but is that ti logic chip on the other board?
[06:08:00] LonEagle: mchou: waiiit a minute. this time it said it found a recorder.
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[06:09:00] mchou: LonEagle: sigh. Told you to restart
[06:09:00] kristok: mchou: its a different chip
[06:10:00] LonEagle: mchou: yeah but sadly, if i do it again, it doesn't pick up a recorder.
[06:10:00] mchou: kristok: chances are you look up the to spec sheets for that chip it will tell you what capacitance to use
[06:10:00] kristok: mchou: great idea
[06:11:00] kristok: can i damage the drive worse by trying out this other controller board?
[06:11:00] mchou: we dont know what the mystery board will do :)
[06:11:00] kristok: maybe a genie will jump out
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[06:11:00] sportman: hey
[06:12:00] sportman: im building my pc as we speak
[06:12:00] mchou: considering all the logic is different I'd use that as a last resort
[06:12:00] sportman: and im looking for a power supply
[06:12:00] sportman: that is small
[06:12:00] sportman: i have 2 power connectors on my mobo
[06:12:00] sportman: one that is like this ::::::::::::
[06:12:00] sportman: and one like this ::
[06:12:00] sportman: i cant find any small power supplies like that
[06:12:00] sportman: any ideas?
[06:12:00] LonEagle: oh, i just figured it out.
[06:13:00] LonEagle: if i start mythbackend as root, it finds no recorders. if i start it as the mythtv user, it finds the recorder.
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[06:14:00] UBL: Freman, where are you running mythbackend from?
[06:14:00] Freman: a gentoo server...
[06:14:00] UBL: maybe mythtranscode is not in the path variable
[06:14:00] Freman: mythtranscode is being executed
[06:15:00] Freman: bawx ~ # pidof mythtranscode
[06:15:00] Freman: 1540 1539 1536
[06:15:00] lupin_sanse1: just got knoppmyth setup. I'm confused about hot to setup the channels. Does Knoppmyth require an internet connection? My other machine doesn't have a LAN card and it's Sunday here!
[06:15:00] UBL: so what does it say in the mythbackend log?
[06:15:00] Freman: nothing about transcoding...
[06:15:00] LonEagle: lupin_sanse1: to downloat channel listings you need the internet.
[06:15:00] LonEagle: lupin_sanse1: err, download.
[06:15:00] Freman: ooh actualy... now that I know what I'm looking for
[06:15:00] lupin_sanse1: can I just play with it without the net, or is it required?
[06:15:00] Freman: it's full of mpeg 4 errors
[06:16:00] LonEagle: lupin_sanse1: that i don't know the answer to.
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[06:16:00] lupin_sanse1: LonEagle: okay, so normally knoppmyth goes on the net to get the channel listings does it? There's no actual place where you configure the channels manually?
[06:17:00] mchou: kristok: that chip is apparently the HDD motor combo ic
[06:17:00] Freman: UBL: Last 34 lines of log: http://pastebin.com/539681
[06:17:00] kristok: mchou: i was still looking
[06:18:00] UBL: Freman, isnt 0.18.1 the latest stable release? maybe try downgrading
[06:20:00] Freman: bawx ~ # mythbackend --version
[06:20:00] Freman: 0.18.1.20050510–1
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[06:20:00] achew22: Hello everyone!
[06:20:00] Freman: gentoo doesn't have 0.19 yet...
[06:20:00] LonEagle: lupin_sanse1: normally is correct, but there might be a way to set up the channels manually.
[06:21:00] LonEagle: lupin_sanse1: look in mythtv-setup.
[06:21:00] achew22: Does anyone know where the executables are found (or how to find them)
[06:21:00] lupin_sanse1: okay, will try and find a shop open now that has a nic....
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[06:21:00] casey-_: having problems with the nvidia accel drivers and tvout
[06:21:00] UBL: my eyes are playing tricks on me, i could have sworn i saw "0.19" somewhere in that pastbin output. my bad
[06:21:00] casey-_: i will get tvout working, and then it will just stop working
[06:21:00] lupin_sanse1: Well I'm impressed how easily knoppmyth set itself up!
[06:21:00] casey-_: like i reboot, and it no longer works anymore
[06:22:00] casey-_: amd64x2 nvidia 6600GT
[06:22:00] casey-_: anyone see that behavior before?
[06:22:00] achew22: make sure to change your refresh rate
[06:22:00] casey-_: thats what i dont get
[06:22:00] casey-_: it was working, i didnt change anything
[06:22:00] casey-_: and then i reboot and it no longer works
[06:22:00] ** sportman thinks for a moment **
[06:22:00] sportman: why did i bother taking my desktop
[06:23:00] sportman: and putting it into my vcr
[06:23:00] achew22: ohh, I know nothing about it your problem — but its bad for the tv to have the wrong refresh rage
[06:23:00] sportman: shell
[06:23:00] achew22: rate*
[06:23:00] sportman: when i could have just upgraded my laptop hdd
[06:23:00] sportman: and gotten an externel tuner
[06:24:00] Freman: no idea UBL...
[06:25:00] lupin_sanse1: I wonder why when I watch some DVDs through myth they look all garbled, like weird text mode characters?
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[06:28:00] LonEagle: does anyone know how to delete a recording profile group?
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[06:29:00] jnunez: Anyone have info on MythGame .18?
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[06:31:00] jnunez: I scan for games and all I get is PC and MAME and I delve deeper into MAME I just get the genre but never the ROM
[06:32:00] sportman: so can anyone help me find a small power supply?
[06:32:00] sportman: i have a 20 pin connector
[06:32:00] sportman: and a 4 pin 12v one
[06:32:00] sportman: not small watts wize
[06:32:00] sportman: but like physically small
[06:32:00] sportman: thats all i have left to do to complete my vcr to pvr case mod
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[06:34:00] SlicerDicer-: yay xris almost done downloading that file heh
[06:34:00] kristok: mchou: where'd you find the info on that chip?
[06:41:00] mchou: kristok: heh, looks like a wild goose chaise
[06:41:00] mchou: chase*
[06:41:00] kristok: i can't find a damn thing on ti's site
[06:41:00] mchou: no data sheets publicly available
[06:42:00] kristok: what the hell, i'm trying the other board
[06:42:00] mchou: but knowing what I know about that logic chip I'd be leery of using another controller
[06:43:00] mchou: probably screw up the data royally....
[06:43:00] kristok: hmmmm
[06:43:00] achew22: um... what is the /etc/rc.status file?
[06:44:00] mchou: kristok: no body at caltech has a similar drive?
[06:44:00] mchou: kristok: walk over to Jorgasm and ask what they've got :)
[06:44:00] kristok: mchou: the board i have is from a similar drive, a 160 as opposed to a 200
[06:45:00] kristok: mchou: and i did this a 3 hours ago, so i haven't really been to campus...
[06:45:00] mchou: kristok: similar in terms of controller board
[06:45:00] mchou: as opposed to drive.....
[06:45:00] jnunez: kristok: I could get the same drive for $25 but then i need to ship it to you. And the computer show closes early tomorrow (East Coast) because of the Super Bowl
[06:46:00] kristok: mchou: no, the other controller board has an ST chip instead of the ti
[06:46:00] mchou: kristok: ahh, ok. the ST chip is a compatible part
[06:46:00] mchou: measure the cap on that controller and be done with it.
[06:47:00] kristok: mchou: they are oriented and organized differently
[06:48:00] mchou: what's the markings on the st chip?
[06:48:00] kristok: smooth
[06:48:00] kristok: 100244097
[06:48:00] kristok: h997zo314
[06:49:00] kristok: maybe zero?
[06:49:00] kristok: instead of "o"
[06:49:00] mchou: 100244097
[06:50:00] kristok: yes
[06:59:00] rav3r_: does it hurt to change my resolution when mythfrontend isn't running?
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[07:04:00] sportman: n e one ?
[07:04:00] sportman: seriously i need help finding a nice psu
[07:05:00] sportman: something small
[07:05:00] sportman: that is atleast 350 watts
[07:06:00] kristok: did you look around on newegg or something?
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[07:10:00] Freman: meh, krashed
[07:10:00] sportman: i did kristok
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[07:10:00] sportman: i need something as small as possible though
[07:10:00] bhs128: hello all
[07:10:00] ** Freman wonders how much mythbackend could enjoy a dual core ath64... **
[07:10:00] sportman: but it needs to have a 20 pin connector
[07:10:00] sportman: and a 4 pin connector
[07:10:00] sportman: but i want it like really small
[07:10:00] sportman: lol
[07:11:00] bhs128: i am looking for some help setting up mythtv with a hd3000 card and a soundblaster live
[07:11:00] bhs128: i am going out of the spdif into my denon reciever and if i enable ac3 passthrough all i get is chop
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[07:15:00] bhs128: any ideas? is this some thing that i need to mess with my asoundrc that i have heard of?
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[07:28:00] ShockValue: good evening all
[07:29:00] ShockValue: I'm interested in setting up my mythtv box to recieve OTA HD signals. I'm not sure what type of card I'm looking for to do this – can someone suggest a site to read up on this, or give me a suggestion on a card?
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[07:32:00] achew22: yep
[07:33:00] achew22: I would go with a pvr card made by hoppague
[07:33:00] kristok: for HD?
[07:33:00] ShockValue: i have a pvr250... do they make another that does HD?
[07:33:00] achew22: ooh... missed the hd line
[07:33:00] achew22: one sec — I got a list of the hd cards supported
[07:33:00] achew22: if its got v4l it should be good once you've got it configured
[07:34:00] ShockValue: my pvr250 setup is working nicely.. but it's making me sad to waste my new plasma tv :)
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[07:34:00] ShockValue: and i figure the winter olympics is a good excuse to get a HD card (wife loves the olympics)
[07:34:00] achew22: good excuse
[07:36:00] achew22: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/HardWare_2fVideoCaptureCards
[07:36:00] ShockValue: danke, ill check it out
[07:37:00] achew22: are you going for dvb or hdtv?
[07:37:00] ShockValue: dvb?
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[07:38:00] achew22: digital broadcast?
[07:38:00] ShockValue: umm.. i guess im unclear on what that is
[07:38:00] ShockValue: right now i'm just pulling "regular tv" from satelite (directv)
[07:39:00] ShockValue: would like to watch OTA things in hidef
[07:39:00] achew22: we will be switching to ota dvb broadcasts in 2007
[07:39:00] achew22: dvb is digital over the air
[07:39:00] ShockValue: oic
[07:39:00] ShockValue: will dvb = hd?
[07:39:00] sportman: dvico makes some kick ass cards
[07:39:00] sportman: do they work with myth tv by any chance?
[07:39:00] achew22: hdtv is 4dvb broadcasts
[07:39:00] achew22: they do, but my neiborhood doesn't get dvb yet
[07:40:00] ShockValue: ive heard much discussion on the list about the pchdtv 3000.. is this a well supported card?
[07:40:00] sportman: hmm
[07:43:00] achew22: I don't have hdtv — there is only 1 channel in my neiborhood so I'm not going to buy one for a while
[07:44:00] achew22: probably 2007
[07:44:00] ShockValue: k, well i appreciate the help given :)
[07:44:00] ShockValue: got a few pages loaded up to read now :)
[07:44:00] achew22: yep — have fun
[07:44:00] achew22: any more questions, I'm going to be on for another 1:15 min
[07:45:00] achew22: wow
[07:45:00] achew22: wrong 1:15hr
[07:46:00] ShockValue: second question of the evening> when i use xvmc acceleration, the picture flickers/studders when the OSD is onscreen.. and when i use xvmc+deinterlacing, the OSD "vibrates" like it's really slow refresh rate on an old monitor or something
[07:46:00] ShockValue: this is wish drivers 7676.. with the latest drivers, xvmc doesnt work at all
[07:46:00] ShockValue: any fixes for this issue?
[07:46:00] ShockValue: (s)
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[07:48:00] travis_: how can i change my xorg.conf to just use on monitor?
[07:48:00] travis_: one
[07:49:00] travis_: right now, under Section "ServerLayout" i have Identifier "Multihead layout"
[07:49:00] travis_: and i want it to be just one output
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[07:51:00] achew22: does anyone know the fstab syntax for samba connections
[07:51:00] ole_schoola: dumb question: any reason why prelink is eating up my cpu?
[07:51:00] achew22: no — kill it
[07:51:00] achew22: if it screws stuff up then leave it be
[07:52:00] ole_schoola: what would invoke it? i know i didn't
[07:52:00] achew22: isn't prelink a compiler thing?
[07:52:00] ole_schoola: i thought so, but i'm not compiling :\
[07:53:00] achew22: why aren't you supposed to sleep if you get a concussion?
[07:53:00] sportman: i dunno why?
[07:54:00] sportman: im serious i dont know
[07:54:00] ole_schoola: so care providers can momitor your reactions i believe...
[07:54:00] achew22: if your such a sportman why don't you know ;)
[07:54:00] sportman: lol
[07:54:00] ole_schoola: ...if you sleep, no can tell if you get worse
[07:54:00] achew22: good way to be
[07:54:00] sportman: i thought u can suffer memory loss
[07:54:00] sportman: or it can increase
[07:54:00] ole_schoola: dunno
[07:54:00] sportman: if you sleep
[07:54:00] achew22: probably part of not knowing how bad you are
[07:54:00] sportman: or u might go into a como
[07:55:00] achew22: como? is that like a coma?
[07:55:00] sportman: yea
[07:55:00] sportman: lol
[07:55:00] ShockValue: concussion = brain bruise. there can be a lot of different side effects of this
[07:55:00] sportman: why are we talking bout concussions anyways
[07:55:00] achew22: i know someone who got 4 concussions so far this year...
[07:55:00] sportman: i still need to find a psu
[07:55:00] sportman: lol
[07:55:00] achew22: she is going to die
[07:55:00] sportman: wow, thats bad achew22
[07:55:00] sportman: im sorry
[07:55:00] sportman: lol
[07:55:00] achew22: she keeps falling off the ballance beam
[07:56:00] sportman: are you joking?
[07:56:00] ShockValue: sounds to me like she needs a spotter until she gets better
[07:56:00] achew22: no, she fell on the climbing wall one time too
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[07:56:00] sportman: she should not do physical activities
[07:56:00] achew22: but 3 times were gymnastics related
[07:56:00] achew22: she is kindof a clutz but she is like the 3rd or 4th best gymnist in teh state so she keeps doing it
[07:56:00] sportman: she probably should wear a helmet when having sex
[07:56:00] ShockValue: QAM = ?
[07:57:00] ole_schoola: great, now makewhatis has launched itself
[07:57:00] achew22: ha ha
[07:57:00] sportman: ok seriously psu time
[07:57:00] sportman: i gotta find one
[07:57:00] ole_schoola: QAM = Quadrature Amplitude Modulati0on
[07:57:00] achew22: its the first scary linux trojan — it actualy compiles itself so that it will work on all systems
[07:57:00] sportman: i dont like this brink sitting outside my vcr
[07:57:00] sportman: why do people gotta make linux trojans
[07:57:00] sportman: what douches
[07:58:00] achew22: joke...
[07:58:00] sportman: lol
[07:58:00] sportman: sorry 3 am
[07:58:00] sportman: kinda slow right now
[07:58:00] achew22: its okay
[07:58:00] sportman: that would suck
[07:58:00] ole_schoola: search on DC->DC snap-on suppies that use an external AC brick
[07:58:00] achew22: east coast = loser time
[07:58:00] sportman: hey, not cool
[07:58:00] sportman: :(
[07:58:00] achew22: :D
[07:58:00] sportman: i was looking for something like that ole_schoola
[07:59:00] sportman: all the ones i found were to low of a wattage
[07:59:00] ole_schoola: figgers
[07:59:00] achew22: do cars have mains power?
[08:00:00] ole_schoola: how bout doin liposuction on an ATX supply (read, break out the dremel tool and hot glue gun)?
[08:00:00] sportman: id do that ole_schoola
[08:00:00] sportman: sounds like a fun project
[08:01:00] ole_schoola: look at the seasonic supplies, PFC, 80+, intelligent thermal mgmt
[08:01:00] sportman: im looking at it, seems feasable
[08:01:00] sportman: im going to have to like move shit around a lot
[08:01:00] sportman: should be interesting
[08:01:00] Chutt: anyone have a copy of msp3400.h from the kernel sources, say, version 2.6.15?
[08:01:00] ole_schoola: hang tight Chutt...
[08:02:00] Chutt: ah, nevermind, got it.
[08:02:00] achew22: i'm sure its in their vault
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[08:03:00] ** ole_schoola is watching US-cable QAM for the first time **
[08:04:00] achew22: what is qam
[08:04:00] ole_schoola: QAM-256 is the modulation scheme used by US cable for digital signals
[08:04:00] achew22: cool....
[08:04:00] ShockValue: ouch.. hd-3000 is 165$
[08:05:00] achew22: yep — you will pay a pretty penny
[08:05:00] ole_schoola: so is the HD5000
[08:05:00] ShockValue: which is better do ya think?
[08:05:00] achew22: get the more expensive one then ;)
[08:05:00] ole_schoola: dunno, i've only worked witrh the air2pc gen2 and airstar gen3
[08:06:00] ole_schoola: couldn't talk about the hd3000
[08:06:00] sportman: you said PFC
[08:06:00] ole_schoola: the airstar is tuning rather quickly under SVN compared to 18.1
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[08:06:00] ole_schoola: sportman: PFC = active Power Factor Correction
[08:07:00] ole_schoola: makes cleaner and more stable power rails
[08:07:00] achew22: ole_schoola are you a electrical engineer
[08:07:00] sportman: my teacher told me to look at electrical engineering
[08:07:00] ole_schoola: that's what Purdue tells me
[08:07:00] sportman: lol
[08:07:00] achew22: what do you know about broadcasting over FM frequencies
[08:08:00] ole_schoola: i mostly work in acoustical eng now, but that is all derived from EE, physics and of course, calc
[08:08:00] achew22: ps: I got a spark fairy vibe from your insane knowlege about electricity stuff
[08:08:00] ShockValue: looks like I'd need a "red" antanna pointed almost due east from my place to get the signal
[08:09:00] ole_schoola: bcast over FM? get license, first ;)
[08:09:00] achew22: yeah i plan on being illegal for a little while... untill I can raise the $100,000 fee
[08:09:00] ole_schoola: google has ALLLL you need to know
[08:10:00] ole_schoola: start off with the ARRL handbook, we all did
[08:10:00] achew22: no... I have questions about how to convert from audio cable (rca or minijacks) to air
[08:10:00] ole_schoola: Amateur Radio Relay Leaque
[08:10:00] achew22: leaque?
[08:10:00] ole_schoola: and that book has all the answers
[08:11:00] rav3r_: how does one get s/pdif to work? i have tried kmix and alsamixer, but sound still is coming out of my built in speaker, and not the digital out
[08:11:00] ole_schoola: waaaaay beyond the scope of an IRC session (way off-topic at that)
[08:11:00] achew22: its a book?
[08:12:00] ole_schoola: big book, about an eight-pounder
[08:12:00] ShockValue: ole_schoola: what kind of antenna would i need for this type of thing? I'm not sure how much all this is gonna run
[08:12:00] ole_schoola: rav3r_: while you have something playing back, switch to kmix and diddle with the IEC958 settings under Switches
[08:15:00] ole_schoola: while i was in the Quad, we could get about 1/8 mile out of a 300mW "rig" using 1/4 wave omni i threw together
[08:16:00] ole_schoola: tyou're really going to need to acquire a copy of the ARRL book if you want to persue this
[08:17:00] rav3r_: im doing that, i dont hear any difference
[08:17:00] rav3r_: i've set kmix to turn of the speaker, and it still is coming out of it
[08:17:00] ole_schoola: using ALSA:default and a decent .asoundrc?
[08:18:00] ole_schoola: oh, i see, runaway BEEP speaker
[08:18:00] rav3r_: i have a msi barebones, it has a speaker in it
[08:19:00] rav3r_: i guess i will try jarod's guide again, maybe i missed something
[08:19:00] ole_schoola: speaker soldered onto mobo?
[08:20:00] rav3r_: i think so
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[08:20:00] achew22: wow — http://www.bulletinboardforum.com/m/homemade_web_server.php check this out
[08:21:00] ShockValue: yeah ok, but what's it do?
[08:21:00] lupin_sanse1: So I setup my knoppmyth, put my network card in the computer, setup everything and so on. Now when I watch TV I just get a blank screen. Where do I start working out what's wrong?
[08:21:00] rav3r_: the sound comes out of the computer, and i didn't install it, so yea, i guess it is
[08:22:00] achew22: ShockValue: what is it? its a server array
[08:23:00] ShockValue: it's a bunch of pc hardware strung together... for some, unknown purpose.
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[08:23:00] ShockValue: my 300mhz pc in the basement running mythweb is a "sever" too :)
[08:23:00] ole_schoola: love the paint on the walls
[08:23:00] achew22: lupin_sanse1 what kind of hardware do you have (tvcard wize)
[08:23:00] lupin_sanse1: a DVICO DVB-T card
[08:23:00] achew22: not quite the same you don't have 20 of them and oyur house wont go up in smoke due to an electrical fire
[08:24:00] ole_schoola: prolly some romanian leet haxor
[08:24:00] eiggirC: heh
[08:24:00] ShockValue: i'd take the servers i build at work anyday.
[08:24:00] achew22: ayoneone know if the DVICO DVB-T card has drivers off the bat on any systems?
[08:24:00] eiggirC: I love the way they pop thousands for 64 bit CPUs but not dozens of dollars for a case
[08:25:00] achew22: yep...
[08:25:00] achew22: silly
[08:25:00] eiggirC: mind you there's a kvm in the picture too
[08:25:00] eiggirC: so its not completely ghetto
[08:25:00] ole_schoola: i'm told that a MS Exchange 5.5 server i built on an AlphaServer 2100 in '97 is still in service
[08:25:00] achew22: where?
[08:25:00] achew22: I would use it — the protocols havn't changed
[08:25:00] ole_schoola: those AlphaServers defined good hardware design
[08:26:00] rav3r_: jarod says to make .asoundrc, he gives the text and say's to replace "emu10k1" where necessary. what do i replace that with? my sound is intergrated, i don't know what the driver needs to be...
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[08:26:00] ole_schoola: rav3r_: this is easy, follow along....
[08:26:00] ShockValue: i woudl venture to guess there's quite a few exchange 5.5 servers still floating around. lots of people dont fix things that arent broke (im not one of those...)
[08:26:00] ole_schoola: what is the chipset of your onboard sound?
[08:27:00] achew22: me neither
[08:27:00] lupin_sanse1: achew22: is there some way to tell if myth detected my tuner card or not?
[08:27:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: I am testing on a 3500+ AMD transcoding :)
[08:27:00] ole_schoola: Realtek? Intel? nforce?
[08:27:00] achew22: run it...
[08:27:00] SlicerDicer-: I got NFS going and MTD across the network heh
[08:27:00] rav3r_: im sorry, im not sure
[08:27:00] rav3r_: intel?
[08:28:00] lupin_sanse1: achew22: how do I "run it", just select "Watch TV"?
[08:28:00] rav3r_: i have a celeron processor
[08:28:00] Captain_Murdoch: lupin_sanse1: if it detects your card, then it will list the inputs when you configure the card in mythtv-setup.
[08:28:00] achew22: thats a good bet
[08:28:00] lupin_sanse1: so I need to run mythtv-setup again do I?
[08:28:00] achew22: no do mythfrontend
[08:28:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: I may not need to put a 64bit machine on my backend :) just use a frontend this way haha
[08:28:00] sportman: is it ok that my pvr is running at 41 degrees celcius
[08:28:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: nah I will do it on the backend it will be nice hehe
[08:29:00] ole_schoola: sport: yes, i measured that on my 350 recently
[08:29:00] SlicerDicer-: is that how hot the pvr-350 gets?
[08:29:00] lupin_sanse1: achew22: Sorry I am so dumb. Where is the frontend should I be looking?
[08:29:00] ole_schoola: rav: crack open the case, dig out a flashlight and read the stuff off the audio chip, use the manual to locate
[08:29:00] achew22: just type into console mythfrontend
[08:29:00] ShockValue: anyone selling a hd3000 card?:)
[08:29:00] achew22: yeah, hd3000 $250
[08:29:00] achew22: usd
[08:30:00] achew22: i'll pay shiping ;)
[08:30:00] ShockValue: where do i sign up?
[08:30:00] ole_schoola: Slicer: it get cranky hot
[08:30:00] achew22: arent they like 160$?
[08:30:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: haha
[08:30:00] rav3r_: ok, checking the manual...
[08:30:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: yeah
[08:30:00] rav3r_: (forgot about that)
[08:31:00] rav3r_: it says realtek alc655
[08:31:00] achew22: yeah only $250 and I'll pay shiping — then its all yours
[08:31:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: oddness no severe time difference that I can see from 1.4ghz to 3500+ AMD is that normal? haha
[08:31:00] ShockValue: hmm, they must be having a sale at pchdtv.com because it's only 170 there ;)
[08:31:00] ole_schoola: rav: once you knoew the manufacturer of the audio chip, go to the ALSA site and look her up, on the right side it will tell you what to put in the .asoundrc in place of the emu10k1
[08:31:00] lupin_sanse1: achew22: now where do I set the tuner card up in mythfrontend
[08:31:00] achew22: yeah — right on
[08:32:00] rav3r_: awesome, thanks!
[08:32:00] achew22: you don't you just connect to mythbackend — it should just work when you go to watch tv
[08:32:00] ole_schoola: rav: np, anytime
[08:32:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont understand this
[08:32:00] achew22: okay ask your questions
[08:33:00] SlicerDicer-: why would a 3500+ AMD64 run slower than a 1.4ghz thunderbird?
[08:33:00] SlicerDicer-: on transcoding
[08:33:00] achew22: who would have thought that at 1:30am the support is better than at noon
[08:33:00] lupin_sanse1: so I am confused now. When I watch TV I just get the blank screen, and eventualy it goes back to the main mythtv page
[08:33:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: seems like it always is
[08:33:00] ole_schoola: Slicer: PEBKAC?
[08:33:00] achew22: are you running 64 bit linux
[08:33:00] achew22: problem exists between keyboard and chair
[08:34:00] ole_schoola: achew: are you an IT type?
[08:34:00] rav3r_: i don't see realtek in the list?
[08:34:00] achew22: I like to pretend that
[08:34:00] rav3r_: looking at the dropdown here http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[08:34:00] achew22: ole_schoola: what do you need?
[08:34:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: hell no
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: how could it be a pebkac?
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[08:35:00] achew22: SlicerDicer- look in the mirror
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: I mean honestly I am running 64bit linux...
[08:35:00] achew22: thats how
[08:35:00] achew22: time to watch team america
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: 64bit linux runs slower than 32bit?
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: wtf?
[08:36:00] achew22: sometimes...
[08:36:00] SlicerDicer-: are you trying to make me tweek out?
[08:36:00] achew22: no — if you emulate 32bit it will run way slower
[08:36:00] SlicerDicer-: its not emulating
[08:36:00] ole_schoola: rav: can you crack the case and read the chip?
[08:36:00] achew22: also your 64 bit computer can be doing other stuff, check active processes
[08:36:00] SlicerDicer-: I did its doing nothing
[08:37:00] achew22: how did you check it?
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: well other than the transcode jobs
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: top?
[08:37:00] achew22: thats a good way
[08:37:00] achew22: so what was taking stuff up
[08:37:00] rav3r_: i have the manual, it say's realtek
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: umm nothing? other than transcode and its jobs
[08:38:00] ole_schoola: apparently it's a something else ;)
[08:38:00] ole_schoola: i'll bet it's a 'cmipci' or C-Media chip if you open it up
[08:39:00] ole_schoola: always look at the chips when dealing with linux. geeks are very literal ;)
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh well ole_schoola it was just a mess around thing
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: maybe its mtd gone bad
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[08:39:00] achew22: also — always listen to ole_schoola... he is prety good at this
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: I am doing something very strange heh
[08:40:00] achew22: yes...
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: I am using the mythdvd with the mtd across the network on a remote frontend
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: heh
[08:40:00] achew22: watching tv on your computer is VERY strange to most people
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: so that could be why its slow
[08:40:00] achew22: are you doing other stuff wile you transcode?
[08:41:00] achew22: here is a speed tip don't run mythbackend
[08:41:00] ole_schoola: Get it while you can! after next week, i'll be dropping of the chan again, big six-figure job coming up
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[08:42:00] achew22: hey ole_schoola is there any way to run mythbackend on system startup without users logging in (kindof like services on windows)
[08:42:00] ole_schoola: besides, i have absolutely no clue what i'm doing, just cashing in some karma that carried over
[08:43:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: errm ok.. I guess you have no idea what I am doing over here its no big deal
[08:43:00] achew22: i'm very confused
[08:44:00] achew22: and I like long walks on the beach...
[08:45:00] ole_schoola: achew: daemonize it. read the official myth docs, section 23 or somesuch
[08:45:00] achew22: 23 is a plugin thing
[08:45:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: I have been running the 32bit system with the backend running and its getting better performance than a 64bit system
[08:46:00] ShockValue: if i ordered a pchdtv3000 from their website tonight.. wonder if i would get it in time to watch the olympics.
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont understand it given how old that 32bit system is
[08:46:00] achew22: I have a 64 bit that runs slower but its infested with spyware
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: the only thing I can figure is that the mtd is not working right or something when it remotes
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: the thing is this box does not run slow
[08:46:00] ole_schoola: achew: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.12
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: it hauls ass thats the first thing to go slow haha
[08:46:00] achew22: thankyou ole_schoola
[08:46:00] achew22: weird...
[08:46:00] achew22: did your compile it yourself?
[08:47:00] SlicerDicer-: yep gentoo
[08:47:00] junrelya: hello, my goal is mythtv but i'm stuck in alsa. can one of you help?
[08:47:00] achew22: there are many very nerdy people in here. We have large glasses and we would love to help you with your questions
[08:47:00] rav3r_: thanks ole_schoola, im restarting
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[08:48:00] ole_schoola: rav: you find the exact hw?
[08:48:00] junrelya: i have a via 82xx alsa module loaded, and a bt87x as well (that dsp is on my tv card)
[08:48:00] junrelya: however, i get no sound from the "watch tv" just video
[08:48:00] SlicerDicer-: achew22: its just very odd :) I dont think most people do what I am doing... I had to pretty much learn all this on my own haha
[08:48:00] ole_schoola: Slicer: how i got here, too
[08:48:00] achew22: obviously...
[08:49:00] junrelya: i've checked my mutes, then i went and tried mpg123, no sound.
[08:49:00] junrelya: checked the cables... they work on other devices (ipod)
[08:49:00] junrelya: any ideas?
[08:51:00] achew22: shit... i have rcx.d but no rc.d (where x = a number)
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: I am using mythdvd and the dvdrip thingy but its giving me headaches heh
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: 6mins for first stage on 32bit 1.4ghz, 18mins on 3500+AMD64 somethings not right haha
[08:52:00] ole_schoola: it's 0250 here and i have a very healthy pile of mplexid crapola to wade thru when i wake up
[08:53:00] junrelya: ok i should probably be in #alsa, thx
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[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: lol crapola
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: love that :)
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: check private message if you would
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: please
[08:53:00] ole_schoola: rav: i'll give you 5 more, than i'm heading off
[08:53:00] achew22: ole_schoola: what should I do about not having a /etc/rd.d folder
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[08:55:00] ole_schoola: achew: adjust for your distro, what are you running again?
[08:55:00] achew22: Ubuntu — and I don't think I told you... if you forgot that means you're clervoinent
[08:56:00] achew22: ole_schoola: should I do rc-update?
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[08:57:00] ole_schoola: that's debian based so i would find out what debian uses for init script dir structure and adjustaccordingly
[08:57:00] ShockValue: anyone know the syntax for seachign in mythweb? what i'd like to do it do a search for all HD programming on channels 4,5,7,9
[08:57:00] rav3r_: well, this is depressing. i guess i will have to open it. i tried the one you guessed
[08:58:00] ole_schoola: achew: i've onlt got fedora and pieces of gentoo in recent memory
[08:58:00] achew22: damn
[08:58:00] rav3r_: just sucks because i finally thought i was down with the inside, and just hooked it all up to my receiver
[08:58:00] achew22: ole_schoola: what is it called
[08:58:00] ole_schoola: not depressing at all, think of yourself as a geeky Harrison Ford in an exotic Aztec adventure here
[08:59:00] achew22: very geeky
[08:59:00] ole_schoola: does your manual give you pictoral diagram of the chips on the brd?
[08:59:00] sportman: hmm
[08:59:00] sportman: what does sone mean
[08:59:00] SlicerDicer-: ole_schoola: I think gentoo is the best for a backend as it sets up with minimal effort if you can stand the compiling :)
[09:00:00] sportman: like i found a heatsync with a 1.4 sone level
[09:00:00] sportman: is that good?
[09:00:00] rav3r_: yes
[09:00:00] sportman: really?
[09:01:00] sportman: like will it bother me like my stock heatsync does
[09:01:00] rav3r_: sorry,
[09:01:00] rav3r_: ole_schoola: yes
[09:01:00] sportman: ah
[09:01:00] sportman: ok
[09:01:00] sportman: lol
[09:01:00] achew22: ole_schoola: What is it called when you start something on bootup
[09:01:00] ole_schoola: rav: go find it with a flashlight, jot down what you see
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[09:05:00] rav3r_: cool, have to shut down to do it.
[09:05:00] sportman: so no one knows about sones and heatsyncs
[09:05:00] rav3r_: thanks for your help, perhaps i'll see you on again tomorrow
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[09:06:00] ole_schoola: good luck rav3r
[09:06:00] sportman: good luck dude
[09:10:00] ShockValue: bah.. i look up space, as in 'the universe" and i get 01391 pages of "trading spaces"
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[09:14:00] achew22: where can I find .xinitrc ?
[09:14:00] ShockValue: !/
[09:14:00] ShockValue: ~/
[09:14:00] achew22: thx
[09:15:00] achew22: so --
[09:15:00] achew22: sudo gedit ~/.xinirc
[09:19:00] Freman: can someoen tell me what the red (/) cross icon means... and the toilet paper icon?
[09:19:00] achew22: i think the toiletpaper one is cut commercials
[09:20:00] SlicerDicer-: does anybody have any experience with a PVR-350 and MythVideo?
[09:21:00] ShockValue: i think the icons are different depending on what theme you are using too.. not positive
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[09:21:00] achew22: if you are watching tv and you decide to record it and you had it buffered, does that mean that all the way to the beginning of the show it records?
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[09:23:00] Freman: I'm using the gray one...
[09:24:00] Freman: wow...
[09:24:00] Freman: I just saw a chunk of simpsons with extreamly poor interlacing.... yet the show after it (smallvill) looked fine...
[09:26:00] stoffel: Freman: hit 'F1' for a description
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[09:27:00] Freman: tah stoffel
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[09:51:00] achew22: ta ta all!
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[10:46:00] oreinert: Can'b build latest SVN release due to compilation problem:
[10:46:00] oreinert: mythtv/programs/mythtv/main.cpp:139: undefined reference to `TV::LiveTV(bool, bool)'
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[11:09:00] stoffel: oreinert: Rev 8867 built fine here, try make clean or make distclean before
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[11:20:00] cryos_laptop: Anyone in here using mythtv in the UK?
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[12:00:00] lupin_sanse1: So I ran mythtv-setup again. On the "capture cards" screen should my card be automatically displayed? Or is it normal to only have the "(New Capture Card" option there?
[12:01:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: it is normal to only have "New Capture Card"
[12:02:00] meushi: oh, just noticed the "again"
[12:02:00] lupin_sanse1: meushi: okay thanks. So I select that and then it comes up with the "Standard V4l Capture Card" preselected. Is that just the first one in the list, or does it think that's what I have installed? (I don't I have a DVB card)
[12:02:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: it is the first in the list, I think
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[12:03:00] lupin_sanse1: So the one that is automatically selected is the one it thinks it is?
[12:03:00] mizery: I don't use qt/kde at all, just fluxbox, howeverit seems mythtv uses qt, and when it's running, the mouse cursor seems to disappear behind the background of mythtv and I can't see where I'm clicking. Is this normal?
[12:05:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: no, it is simply the first one in the list :p
[12:05:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: what card do you have?
[12:05:00] lupin_sanse1: It's a DVB one. A DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T Lite
[12:05:00] lupin_sanse1: I'm in Australia
[12:07:00] meushi: hmm, blue sky
[12:07:00] lupin_sanse1: yeah it was 37c here today
[12:08:00] meushi: grrr
[12:08:00] ** meushi is jealous **
[12:08:00] lupin_sanse1: 37c is getting annoying through ;)
[12:09:00] meushi: want to swap with 0C?
[12:09:00] lupin_sanse1: where are you?
[12:09:00] meushi: Luxembourg
[12:09:00] lupin_sanse1: ok, I grew up in England – I know the feeling
[12:09:00] meushi: currently 1C, thanks to the sunshine
[12:11:00] lupin_sanse1: been struggling to get mythtv working with my card. I *think* it can detect it, but I'm not really sure how to check if it can or not. When I watch TV it's just a blank screen
[12:11:00] meushi: for your card, you may want to use "Digital Video Broadcast"
[12:11:00] lupin_sanse1: yeah that's what I selected
[12:12:00] lupin_sanse1: on booting it does say "found bt878 device" which is a tuner device I know – so that looks good doesn't it
[12:12:00] meushi: I know the feeling, at the moment I can watch LiveTV in full PAL resolution but I can't record
[12:13:00] lupin_sanse1: I really want to get myth working, but am considering just whacking the card into my windows machine and just using the crappy software that comes with it :(
[12:13:00] lupin_sanse1: So can you get English TV from Luxembourg?
[12:13:00] Freman: it's 10:30 pm at night – <Stats> Current temperature – Room: 28.5c – Cabnet: 32.2c – Coolant: 35.0c
[12:14:00] Freman: I'll take 0C
[12:14:00] fryfrog: i'm pretty sure a bt878 card is v4l
[12:15:00] fryfrog: "It's a DVB one. A DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T Lite"
[12:15:00] Freman: you can always put more clothes on... but you can't keep taking them off
[12:15:00] fryfrog: nm :)
[12:15:00] lupin_sanse1: is a V4L a DVB card or not?
[12:15:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: yeah, 5 channels on the cable + BBCs and ITVs off the dish
[12:15:00] fryfrog: lupin_sanse1: i'm a little confused by what you have going on
[12:15:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: http://www.users.on.net/~jani/dvico-mythtv.html <-- check this
[12:15:00] fryfrog: lupin_sanse1: i thought "bt878" was a type of bttv card
[12:16:00] lupin_sanse1: thanks
[12:16:00] fryfrog: but i have not any exp with that FusionHDTV card
[12:16:00] fryfrog: is it supposed to do HDTV and analog?
[12:16:00] Freman: lupin_sanse1: http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~chrisp/Linux-DVB/DVICO/
[12:16:00] fryfrog: and do you even *have* hdtv? i thought you were in AU?
[12:16:00] lupin_sanse1: yes AU has HDTV
[12:16:00] fryfrog: OTA or?
[12:16:00] lupin_sanse1: yeah
[12:17:00] fryfrog: Nice, I didn't realize :)
[12:17:00] lupin_sanse1: we have digital that has some programs in SD and some in HDTV
[12:17:00] Freman: if you havn't got it working by wednessday – come back, I'll have mine by then – can work it out together (c:
[12:17:00] fryfrog: you have of course gotten the card *working* before trying myth, right?
[12:17:00] fryfrog: using the azap, tzap, etc type dvb tools?
[12:17:00] Freman: hehe... there's only like 6 chans in total... but meh
[12:18:00] fryfrog: there are plenty of dvb utilities for getting the card working in linux, i have an air2pc card and spent some time with them
[12:18:00] lupin_sanse1: fryfrog: no I used knoppmyth, should I try those other tools first? I am totally new to Linux really, so I'm not sure where to start
[12:18:00] fryfrog: oh, totally new to linux :(
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[12:18:00] fryfrog: i know nothing about knopp, so i can't really advise on *it*
[12:18:00] Freman: lupin_sanse1: Can you wait a few days? I should have my dvb card soon (I'm in QLD)
[12:18:00] fryfrog: my suggestion would be to install a real distro like Fedora Core or Ubuntu and start reading
[12:19:00] lupin_sanse1: Freman: yes
[12:19:00] Freman: I don't know knoppmyth, but I might be able to help
[12:19:00] fryfrog: Freman: what are you gonna end up using?
[12:19:00] lupin_sanse1: who knows?
[12:19:00] ** meushi agrees with fryfrog **
[12:19:00] fryfrog: lupin_sanse1: I believe that most of the really great guides are written for FC
[12:19:00] lupin_sanse1: so my biggest question is what can I do to check that linux recognised my card at all? In Windows I would look in device manager
[12:19:00] Freman: Gentoo, I have a BT878 analog card, and I'm getting the DVB dual tuner card
[12:20:00] fryfrog: lupin_sanse1: lspci
[12:20:00] dtm: lupin_sanse1: type 'dmesg' and 'lspci'
[12:20:00] Freman: it probably hasn't – based on the age of the drivers (c;
[12:21:00] lupin_sanse1: okay, just rebooting now, so if I run dmesg followed by lspci I should see my card if it detected it?
[12:22:00] lupin_sanse1: Thiis site says "The Lite card works with stock kernels since 2.6.9" – I have a Lite card, now I'm wondering what kernal I have
[12:22:00] Freman: uname -r
[12:23:00] lupin_sanse1: cool so I have 2.6.13.2-chw-3 so according to that it should have my drivers....
[12:23:00] Freman: cross fingers
[12:23:00] Freman: dmesg | grep -i dvb
[12:24:00] lupin_sanse1: lspci says I have a bt878 video capture card
[12:25:00] Freman: I can't confirm that util I get mine
[12:25:00] lupin_sanse1: so you think I should just try the V4L one and see if it works?
[12:26:00] Freman: I know it's for fedora, but this might give you a head start: http://www.users.on.net/~jani/dvico-mythtv.html#toc1
[12:27:00] lupin_sanse1: ta
[12:28:00] meushi: same site :)
[12:28:00] meushi: a lot of DVB cards have a BT chip
[12:28:00] lupin_sanse1: what is a BT chip?
[12:29:00] lupin_sanse1: something TV?
[12:29:00] meushi: the bt878 'encoder'
[12:29:00] lupin_sanse1: so bt878 does the mpg2 encoding does it?
[12:29:00] meushi: not really
[12:30:00] laga: re
[12:30:00] scopeuk: arnt the 878 series frame grabers?
[12:30:00] meushi: yeah, basically grabbers
[12:31:00] lupin_sanse1: so is bt878 what the machine gets it's frames from is it?
[12:31:00] scopeuk: prety much
[12:31:00] lupin_sanse1: so is that the same as an analogue card?
[12:32:00] Freman: divco lite probably does have the bt chip on it
[12:32:00] scopeuk: if its using a frame graber output chipsetr yes
[12:32:00] scopeuk: depends on the chip though
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[12:33:00] Freman: pull the card out of the box and look for a connexant chip
[12:33:00] lupin_sanse1: just putting the aircon on, I'm sweating something terrible
[12:35:00] meushi: Freman: it has one bt878
[12:36:00] meushi: the Lite has bt878, the Plus has CX 2388x
[12:37:00] Freman: yeh, I remmembered reading something like that, just wanted to confirm
[12:37:00] Freman: you want to configure your myth to use a v4l device
[12:37:00] lupin_sanse1: okay, using mythtv-setup?
[12:37:00] Freman: yep
[12:38:00] lupin_sanse1: hey do I actually have to add each channel one by one in the Channel Editor?
[12:38:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: configure the program grabber and it will fill in the channels
[12:38:00] lupin_sanse1: after I have configured the program grabber should that Channel Editor be full of channels?
[12:39:00] meushi: after the initial mythfilldatabase, it will be
[12:39:00] Freman: with regards to grabbers... and australia http://www.tvguide.org.au/ <- best option I've found... (you need to register – I don't know how this would work with knopmyth)
[12:40:00] lupin_sanse1: okay yes my channel editor is full of channels no
[12:40:00] lupin_sanse1: 'Now"
[12:40:00] lupin_sanse1: What should be in "Input Connections"?
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[12:45:00] mizery: It appears that myth isn't designed to be used by mouse, however, when I try to exit mythtv, pushing enter or spacebar on "yes" for exiting does nothing. How come?
[12:45:00] lupin_sanse1: man I still get a blank screen during Watch TV :(
[12:46:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: add a start channel
[12:46:00] lupin_sanse1: add a start channel?
[12:46:00] lupin_sanse1: Oh does that mean the first channel to be shown when you turn on Watch TV?
[12:47:00] meushi: in the input connections
[12:47:00] meushi: yup
[12:47:00] lupin_sanse1: in mythtv-setup?
[12:47:00] meushi: looks like it is necessary for that one
[12:47:00] meushi: yes
[12:47:00] lupin_sanse1: okay trying....
[12:49:00] lupin_sanse1: there's nothing in my "input connections" screen. And the terminal says "Couldn't open /dev/video to probe its inputs"
[12:49:00] Freman: hehe... emerging and watching mpeg4 streams isn't compatible
[12:50:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: http://www.users.on.net/~jani/dvico-mythtv-11.html <- redo the card and input as on that page
[12:50:00] lupin_sanse1: thanks
[12:51:00] meushi: it should work (TM)
[12:52:00] meushi: ok, could someone hemp me with a weird problem? Myth 0.18.1, IVTV 0.4, I can watch LiveTV in 720x476, I can't record anything other than 480x480
[12:53:00] meushi: s/hemp/help/
[12:54:00] meushi: grr, typo day... 720x576
[12:54:00] meushi: no errors in the logs
[12:54:00] meushi: it tunes in, starts recording, ends recording, starts commflag
[12:55:00] meushi: the .nuv files are between 0 bytes and 1MB at the end of the process
[12:55:00] lupin_sanse1: meushi: looking good so far
[12:57:00] meushi: if I reconfigure for 480x480, I get mangled recordings but at least it records
[12:58:00] Freman: I god a mate who's having all sorts of trouble with his ivtv
[12:58:00] Freman: god/got
[12:58:00] Freman: hehe... this is typochan
[12:58:00] meushi: hehe
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[12:59:00] meushi: worked fine and dandy with Myth .16 and a very old IVTV
[12:59:00] Freman: mine doesn't seem to like transcoding
[12:59:00] meushi: yeah, transcoding is still on my todo list
[13:00:00] Freman: it transcodes some, but not others
[13:00:00] Freman: and I have to check the interlacing...
[13:00:00] Freman: simpsons looks like crap... but "normal" (IE non-animated) shows look fine
[13:00:00] meushi: I can rule out perms problems, I changed the bitrates but still no luc
[13:00:00] meushi: no luck
[13:00:00] meushi: damn
[13:00:00] meushi: oops, cooking time
[13:01:00] Freman: try dmesg – perhaps it's the driver causing the hickup
[13:01:00] lupin_sanse1: meushi: so I need to actually type in the frequencies of all the channels do I?
[13:02:00] meushi: lupin_sanse1: or you can try scanning
[13:02:00] lupin_sanse1: I get "Failed to open the card"
[13:02:00] oreinert: stoffel: Tried make distclean, it still doesn't compile, same error as before. I wonder if this has something to do with a dependency outside of mythtv, in the qt-libs or so...
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[13:12:00] lupin_sanse1: how do I shut the mythtv backend down?
[13:14:00] xpis: kill it.
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[13:15:00] xpis: Btw, does your card work in xawtv?
[13:15:00] stoffel: oreinert: hmm, works fine here on debian unstable
[13:16:00] Freman: hehe.. my card doesn't work in xawtv...
[13:16:00] Freman: but it works SOOO well in myth
[13:17:00] xpis: Freman: it's probably bad mode settings. Or it's a mpeg2 hardware encoder.
[13:17:00] lupin_sanse1: I started xawtv and I get a blue screen
[13:17:00] Freman: bt chipset xpis
[13:20:00] lupin_sanse1: so if I get a blue screen in xawtv is that good?
[13:21:00] Freman: actually... depending on the card... yes
[13:21:00] lupin_sanse1: so can I actually watch tv on xawtv?
[13:21:00] Freman: if you work out your chans
[13:22:00] lupin_sanse1: you need to know the freq do you
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[13:23:00] Freman: Can't answer that, I havn't got xawtv working myself (c:
[13:24:00] xpis: lupin_sensel: try right clicking and selecting your frequency table
[13:25:00] Freman: also try scantv (or is it tvscan)
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[13:26:00] lupin_sanse1: I tried scantv and it said "open /dev/video0: No such device"
[13:27:00] xpis: Then it's a v4l problem
[13:27:00] xpis: What's your card and kernel version?
[13:27:00] lupin_sanse1: DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T Lite
[13:28:00] lupin_sanse1: 2.6.13.2-chw-3
[13:28:00] Freman: try /dev/video/0 or something
[13:28:00] Freman: ls /dev/video/
[13:29:00] Freman: it's a command line option to change that in scantv
[13:30:00] lupin_sanse1: ls /dev/video just says /dev/video
[13:30:00] Freman: or ls -la /dev/v4l
[13:31:00] laga: scantv and xawtv (3.x at least) won't work well with DVB devices. try mplayer, xine, kaffeine, szap, tzap or something like that
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[13:32:00] t00m: good evening
[13:33:00] t00m: anyone out there using ffmpeg with ogg-vorbis audio codec?
[13:34:00] lupin_sanse1: hmm I give up. I have no idea how to confirm my capture card is working at all
[13:40:00] lupin_sanse1: any pointers on what I can do?
[13:41:00] laga: try mplayer, xine, kaffeine, szap, tzap or something
[13:41:00] laga: like that
[13:41:00] laga: to verify it's working, i mean
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[13:41:00] lupin_sanse1: man I have to learn all about how those work to do that right?
[13:42:00] laga: usually, these tools are quite intuitive
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[13:42:00] pounce: morning folks
[13:44:00] lupin_sanse1: so mplayer can "play" what the tv capture card receives can it?
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[13:47:00] lupin_sanse1: tried Xine and it had a button for DVB (sounds promising) so I pressed it and it says "No channels.conf found"
[13:49:00] t00m: make one
[13:49:00] laga: well, you probably should read its manual then. sorry, i can't help much because i'm not a DVB user
[13:49:00] Beirdo: hey laga
[13:49:00] Beirdo: :)
[13:49:00] Beirdo: my bot seems to work well :)
[13:50:00] Beirdo: now I just need a frontend to read logs from the web :)
[13:50:00] Beirdo: and then make a convertor to insert the old log data
[13:51:00] laga: Beirdo: awesome :)
[13:51:00] laga: Beirdo: let me know when you're finished, we totally need a log bot for #mythtv-de :)
[13:51:00] Beirdo: using like 1.3MB, most of which is the mysql client lib :)
[13:51:00] whyz: oi, if i want to move my recordings dir to a new place, is it safe to just change the path in mythsetup and move the files by hand?
[13:51:00] Beirdo: sure. I have it now working with multiple servers and multiple channels :)
[13:52:00] laga: Beirdo: cool :)
[13:52:00] laga: whyz: should work
[13:53:00] lupin_sanse1: so how do I make a channels.conf file?
[13:54:00] Beirdo: I also need it to log /nick and /quit commands
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[13:54:00] Beirdo: the logs are per-channel, and the data from those two commands don't specify the channel, so I have to put some thought as to which channel(s) on a server to log it for
[13:55:00] Freman: you'll need to check which channels the user is on
[13:56:00] Beirdo: also need to add me some documentation :)
[13:56:00] Freman: option a) /who when the bot joins, then manualy maintain a table full of hostmasks vs chans
[13:56:00] whyz: does text tv work with happuage pvr 350?
[13:56:00] Freman: iotuib b) whois the user and check for common channels
[13:56:00] Freman: iotuib? jez...
[13:56:00] Freman: option
[13:56:00] Beirdo: yeah
[13:56:00] Beirdo: neither do I want to do, really
[13:56:00] Freman: option a uses more ram
[13:56:00] Freman: option b will get you booted for flooding
[13:57:00] Beirdo: and only option a will work for quitting
[13:57:00] Freman: perlbot?
[13:57:00] Freman: or something from scratch?
[13:57:00] Beirdo: and I can maintain the userlist in the sql database
[13:57:00] Beirdo: from scratch
[13:57:00] Freman: ouch.. that's painful
[13:57:00] Beirdo: the bot that's here now is a Java monstrosity
[13:57:00] cryos_laptop: Are any of you guys living in England?
[13:57:00] Freman: while not heavy on ram, it's awfully slow in comparison
[13:57:00] Beirdo: so I wrote one yesterday
[13:58:00] Beirdo: mysql is fast enough
[13:58:00] Freman: either sqlite it or just use a hash
[13:58:00] wole: cryos: London ;)
[13:58:00] Beirdo: no to both, Freman
[13:58:00] Freman: mysql would be so overkill tho (c:
[13:58:00] Beirdo: the whole idea it to create web-accessible logs
[13:58:00] Beirdo: sqlite won't do
[13:58:00] cryos_laptop: wole: I am having trouble grabbing the TV listings with xmltv – any tips you could share? It just errors out on me.
[13:58:00] Beirdo: and hashes are not fun
[13:58:00] Beirdo: and I already have mysql in there. Hhehe
[13:59:00] wole: cryos: what card are you using?
[13:59:00] Beirdo: and it's SO easy to search
[13:59:00] Beirdo: anyways, I gotta go for a while
[13:59:00] Beirdo: church and all.
[13:59:00] cryos_laptop: wole: It is a Hauppage PVR500 which I think is working, but need to grab the TV frequencies.
[13:59:00] Beirdo: be back in a few hours
[13:59:00] laga: cu Beirdo
[13:59:00] Beirdo: http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/beirdobot
[14:00:00] Beirdo: BTW
[14:00:00] cryos_laptop: wole: This is my first play with MythTV though – so I am a bit of a noob
[14:00:00] Beirdo: I'll put the tarball for release 0.1 onto http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ later today, but it has NO docs :)
[14:00:00] wole: cryos: when you use the setup prog, and select uk-alternative you have to press alt+tab and press a to select all the channels
[14:00:00] Beirdo: hehe
[14:00:00] Beirdo: and no web frontend yet
[14:00:00] Beirdo: TTYL
[14:00:00] cryos_laptop: wole: It keeps dying here, saying it can't grab the channels, or a few times it just froze.
[14:01:00] cryos_laptop: wole: I will give it another try.
[14:01:00] wole: cryos: it hasn't died, it's waiting for your input, presee alt tab & you'll see what i mean
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[14:03:00] cryos_laptop: wole: Little further – unable to retrieve channel information for your provider (what I was getting before).
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[14:04:00] wole: cryos: did you select any channels in setup?
[14:04:00] cryos_laptop: I got exit status 65200 and a shed load of code.
[14:04:00] wole: do the alt tab thing
[14:05:00] cryos_laptop: I did and that is what I saw, and got last time. Didn't know if it was broken.
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[14:06:00] cryos_laptop: wole: ^^ Using tv_grab_uk_rt
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[14:09:00] wole: cryos: *stupid question* have you checked the internet connection on the box
[14:09:00] cryos_laptop: wole: Yeah – I have been downloading stuff etc.
[14:09:00] cryos_laptop: I can ping, download, browse the web.
[14:10:00] cryos_laptop: It has got me a little stumped and I didn't know if I was missing something obvious, or if it might be broken.
[14:10:00] Freman: hehe... nothing worse then trying to diagnose an ipv6 connectivity problem... only to realize the tunnel box had lost it's pppoe connection
[14:10:00] whyz: hey, anyone knows how to get the console framebuffered to work with the hauppauge pvr 350?
[14:13:00] cryos_laptop: wole: Here is a pastebin of the long error if it sheds any light – http://pastebin.ca/40139
[14:14:00] cryos_laptop: So it looks like it can't parse the HTML properly.
[14:14:00] wole: ooh, that looks bad – i hope the radio times hasn't changed it's site again
[14:15:00] wole: what versio are you using
[14:15:00] wole: ?
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[14:16:00] cryos_laptop: I think you might have spotted it! I was using an older version, I am just updating now.
[14:16:00] wole: good stuff :)
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[14:20:00] cryos_laptop: I think it might be working now. I still need to figure out how to handle sky through a composite signal or something.
[14:20:00] cryos_laptop: Thank you very much for the pointers wole :)
[14:20:00] wole: you're welcome
[14:22:00] oreinert: stoffel: You're right, it compiles just fine. I had some old header files lying around that got included in the build. Mea culpa...
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[14:46:00] scopeuk: cryos_laptop you should be bale to input your sky box through composit then se an ir blaster
[14:46:00] scopeuk: or get aq dvb-s tv card
[14:51:00] Freman: jesus... the hdd in this laptop don't sound too good...
[14:52:00] cryos_laptop: scopeuk: Yeah – I have to figure it all out though :) Still having trouble seeing TV through the tuner right now...
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[15:13:00] Dudev|1727: is there a way to reset the mythtv database settings?
[15:14:00] wole: Dudev- what settings
[15:14:00] Dudev|1727: i entered the wrong info, and mythtv-setup tries to connect to the nonexistant database
[15:14:00] Dudev|1727: for the mysql database
[15:14:00] wole: er.. rerun mythtv-setup
[15:14:00] laga: Dudev|1727: check ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[15:14:00] Dudev|1727: okay thanks
[15:15:00] wole: has anyone got an uptodate version of this patch http://brej.org/dvb/index.html
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[15:28:00] Axios: Does MythTV support any DVB-C tuner cards?
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[15:45:00] scopeuk: in the hardware section on mythtv.org theere is a link to a page where all linux compatible dvb cards are listed
[15:45:00] scopeuk: you could try looking there
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[15:58:00] electrichamster: Are there any patches or functionality floating about that allows mythtv to "recommend" TV shows you might like, in a similar manner to Tivo?
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[16:00:00] Kelerion: not that I know of
[16:00:00] electrichamster: I didn't think so – one of my housemates was asking me if he could get the box to show stuff we might also like
[16:01:00] electrichamster: shame
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[16:12:00] wole: electrichamster: http://brej.org/dvb/index.html
[16:12:00] wole: but it's for an old version – i was wondering if anyone had an uptated version
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[16:19:00] spankyhorawitz: hello all!
[16:19:00] spankyhorawitz: anyone out there in irc-land?
[16:19:00] laga: no. ;)
[16:19:00] spankyhorawitz: hehe
[16:20:00] spankyhorawitz: I was wondering if I could run something by the group which doesn't seem to be coverd to well in the mail thread
[16:20:00] laga: ask away
[16:20:00] spankyhorawitz: the dreaded frontend keeps trying to connect to localhost, even though the db doesn't ref "localhost"
[16:21:00] spankyhorawitz: I have a master/front on box1, and front only on box2
[16:21:00] laga: and which frontend is acting up?
[16:21:00] spankyhorawitz: box1 works fine, the frontend log says it's connecting to the REAL IP of backend, but box2 only goes for localhost
[16:22:00] laga: spankyhorawitz: on box2, check ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[16:22:00] spankyhorawitz: yep, look right
[16:22:00] spankyhorawitz: it looks like from the log on box2 that it makes a db connection
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[16:22:00] spankyhorawitz: I didn't see any items in the .txt for setting backend, only mysql server (which is on box1
[16:22:00] spankyhorawitz: )
[16:23:00] laga: yeah, right
[16:23:00] spankyhorawitz: on box2: DBHostName=172.16.254.11
[16:23:00] spankyhorawitz: (ie. not localhost)
[16:23:00] laga: i'd suggest that you open mythtv-setup on box1 and check the ip settings there.
[16:23:00] spankyhorawitz: is there a diff between mythtv-setup and mythsetup?
[16:23:00] laga: nope
[16:23:00] laga: :)
[16:24:00] spankyhorawitz: I did that, and then I checked the frontend log on box1 (working box) and it connects to real IP. so went back to box2 and tried again, still wants to go for "localhost"
[16:24:00] dasOp: for db or for backend connection?
[16:24:00] spankyhorawitz: box1=master/backend/frontend box2=frontend only
[16:25:00] dasOp: frontend connects both to backend and db
[16:26:00] spankyhorawitz: um, ok. master/backend/db are on box1, frontend only on box2. box1 works, box2 frontend tries to connect to localhost, log:
[16:26:00] spankyhorawitz: 2006-02–05 08:03:22.674 Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543
[16:26:00] dasOp: so is the conenction to backend failing or the connection to db?
[16:26:00] spankyhorawitz: backend
[16:26:00] dasOp: ok, thats failing
[16:26:00] spankyhorawitz: db appears to be ok
[16:26:00] spankyhorawitz: it's weird
[16:26:00] dasOp: so whats the setting in the db via mythtv-setup on backend?
[16:26:00] spankyhorawitz: real IP address
[16:26:00] dasOp: you've got two inputs for hostname there
[16:27:00] dasOp: does both of them contain the real ip address?
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[16:27:00] spankyhorawitz: I'll go look.
[16:29:00] winga: ok can someone help me program a few remote buttons on my mythbox? i'm using knoppmyth with a grey remote i believe it is
[16:29:00] spankyhorawitz: both contain the REAL IP of box1 (master/backend/db)
[16:30:00] winga: i have a slew of buttons that aren't working
[16:30:00] spankyhorawitz: when frontend on box1 is run, the frontend log says it's connecting to REAL IP of backend
[16:30:00] winga: when i run irw i see that it pops up as Rewind hauppauge_pvr
[16:31:00] laga: winga: /etc/lircd.conf contains the buttons that are available, ~/.mythtv/lircrc contains the mappings for mythtv – check keys.txt for available actions
[16:31:00] winga: so i know it's working to there
[16:32:00] winga: that might be what it is, i was editing just ~/.lircrc
[16:32:00] spankyhorawitz: does the frontend poll the db to find the backend?
[16:32:00] winga: is that what i did wrong laga ?
[16:32:00] dasOp: spanky: run it like mythfrontend -v all
[16:32:00] spankyhorawitz: yep, that's what I'm doing
[16:32:00] dasOp: and if log doesnt help you, paste it on a pastebin site
[16:33:00] dasOp: yup, takes it from db
[16:33:00] spankyhorawitz: sorry, not familiar with "a pastebin site"
[16:33:00] dasOp: try pastebin.ca
[16:33:00] spankyhorawitz: ok
[16:33:00] dasOp: a pastebin site is something to prevent flooding on irc and other places :)
[16:34:00] spankyhorawitz: got it. I'm pasting now. Not very long
[16:34:00] spankyhorawitz: http://pastebin.ca/40154
[16:35:00] dasOp: yeah, its fetching the wrong info from the db
[16:35:00] spankyhorawitz: but the weird thing is, there's no ref to localhost in db
[16:36:00] dasOp: at all?
[16:36:00] dasOp: do you know your way around mysql?
[16:37:00] dasOp: if so, use mythconverg and see "select * from settings where value like '%ServerIP';"
[16:37:00] wole: Grrr, myth needs gcc3.4 to compile?
[16:37:00] winga: laga, the Rewind button is configured already in that lircrc file, but when i push it it does nothing
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[16:45:00] Axios: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/PCI_devices_DVB-C
[16:46:00] Axios: doesnt have this card represented
[16:46:00] Axios: http://www.twinhan.com/product_cable_2.asp
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[16:46:00] Axios: does it mean that it wont work, or nobody have tested?
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[16:47:00] scopeuk: if tis not there is untested unless explicitly marked as incompatible
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[16:48:00] laga: wole: no, it does not. at least the fixes branch compiles fine with gcc 4.x
[16:48:00] Yellow-Snow: P4 2G MHZ CPU or above
[16:48:00] Yellow-Snow: whoa steam req
[16:48:00] Yellow-Snow: steap*
[16:50:00] dasOp: that might be run the provided tv app with playback et al
[16:50:00] Axios: scopeuk: are there any way of telling if there might be a chance it is working?
[16:50:00] dasOp: tias? :)
[16:50:00] scopeuk: you coudl try looking if it has a chipset common with a supported one
[16:50:00] Axios: perhaps looking at the chipset or something
[16:51:00] Axios: yeah, I will do that
[16:51:00] dasOp: doesnt twinhan stuff generally work well with linux?
[16:51:00] scopeuk: it ma be a litle hit and miss though
[16:51:00] dasOp: I thought they were quite open with specs and the like
[16:51:00] spankyhorawitz: am I still on
[16:51:00] spankyhorawitz: sorry, my cable modem died on me
[16:51:00] dasOp: you are
[16:51:00] Axios: hehe
[16:51:00] dasOp: did you see what I said?
[16:51:00] dasOp: <dasOp> do you know your way around mysql?
[16:51:00] dasOp: <dasOp> if so, use mythconverg and see "select * from settings where value like '%ServerIP';"
[16:52:00] scopeuk: twits on the supported list Axios
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[16:52:00] scopeuk: its*
[16:53:00] spankyhorawitz: sorry, my cable modem went down for a bit
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[16:53:00] spankyhorawitz: last post I got was from dasOp: yeah, its fetching the wrong info from the db
[16:53:00] dasOp: <dasOp> <dasOp> do you know your way around mysql?
[16:53:00] dasOp: <dasOp> <dasOp> if so, use mythconverg and see "select * from settings where value like '%ServerIP';"
[16:53:00] spankyhorawitz: yep
[16:53:00] dasOp: third time's the charm
[16:53:00] dasOp: the host column is important
[16:54:00] spankyhorawitz: I looked at it earlier
[16:55:00] spankyhorawitz: I changed it again while I down. put in the hostname to try that
[16:55:00] spankyhorawitz: still works fine on master/backend/frontend and frontend log says it connecting to "box1"
[16:55:00] spankyhorawitz: remote frontend (box2) still tries "localhost"
[16:56:00] scopeuk: Axios http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/20 . . . /006957.html
[16:56:00] dasOp: so unless you're scared of revealing ip, pastebin the output from that select
[16:56:00] scopeuk: apparently they supply linux drivers with it andthey are compatable with the linux tv application
[16:56:00] spankyhorawitz: ok
[16:56:00] spankyhorawitz: no prob, but I changed it hostname
[16:57:00] spankyhorawitz: so IP will be "pvr1"
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[16:58:00] spankyhorawitz: ok, have orig post, post of frontend log on master box, and output of sql query
[16:58:00] dasOp: dont forget to paste url, I dont have it here
[16:59:00] scopeuk: can any one give me an approx minspec for a front end only machine?
[16:59:00] spankyhorawitz: oh, ok
[16:59:00] spankyhorawitz: http://pastebin.ca/40162
[17:01:00] dasOp: in mysql, do: "update settings set hostname = NULL where value = 'MasterServerIP';"
[17:02:00] dasOp: see, if a hostname is set, the setting is only valid when connecting from that hostname
[17:03:00] spankyhorawitz: oh
[17:03:00] spankyhorawitz: maybe that's it
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[17:04:00] dasOp: let me know if it works
[17:04:00] spankyhorawitz: ok, the remote frontend log looks good
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[17:05:00] spankyhorawitz: but i still get a can't connect message from gui
[17:05:00] spankyhorawitz: I mean, log says it's trying correct name
[17:05:00] spankyhorawitz: but now I'm getting a Socket error
[17:05:00] spankyhorawitz: ConnectionRefused
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[17:06:00] spankyhorawitz: should I restart backend? I would have thought the db poll would be separate
[17:06:00] Axios: scopeuk: nice
[17:06:00] dasOp: is it showing the correct hostname in frontend log?
[17:07:00] dasOp: if so it should just work
[17:07:00] spankyhorawitz: yeah
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[17:07:00] dasOp: and you're getting a db connection?
[17:07:00] kormoc: spankyhorawitz, are you sure mysql is allowing external computers to connect?
[17:07:00] spankyhorawitz: 2006-02–05 09:05:56.227 Connecting to backend server: pvr1:6543 (try 1 of 5)
[17:07:00] kormoc: can you ping pvr1?
[17:07:00] Axios: But generelly, setting up a HTPC seems a lot more work, than I thought
[17:07:00] spankyhorawitz: yes kormoc. I'm connecting direct to db from remote frontend
[17:07:00] dasOp: and pvr1 resolves properly?
[17:07:00] spankyhorawitz: using mysql client
[17:07:00] spankyhorawitz: yep
[17:07:00] spankyhorawitz: it connects to db on that host
[17:07:00] spankyhorawitz: using that name
[17:08:00] kormoc: odd
[17:08:00] spankyhorawitz: pvr2 mythtv # mysql -h pvr1 -u mythtv mythconverg -p
[17:08:00] spankyhorawitz: works
[17:08:00] spankyhorawitz: for connecting to mysql
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[17:09:00] spankyhorawitz: I'm wondering if I should blow away db and restart. Just takes a really loooong time for program data
[17:09:00] dasOp: nah
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[17:09:00] spankyhorawitz: I think there's another line in db that should be NULL and isn't
[17:09:00] dasOp: that shouldnt be necessary
[17:10:00] spankyhorawitz: I was mucking with it earlier to try to fix it.
[17:10:00] spankyhorawitz: or vice versa
[17:10:00] spankyhorawitz: it's not polling the right name though for backend. That's a least an improvement
[17:11:00] spankyhorawitz: I'll bet it's the "BackendServerIP" line
[17:11:00] dasOp: nah
[17:11:00] spankyhorawitz: should hostname be NULL?
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[17:12:00] dasOp: mine doesnt
[17:12:00] spankyhorawitz: so both cols have same data on yours?
[17:12:00] dasOp: I just downloaded the osx frontend for my new powerbook
[17:12:00] dasOp: and it just worked
[17:12:00] spankyhorawitz: that was my next stop
[17:13:00] spankyhorawitz: I have a pb too
[17:13:00] scopeuk: any one knwo if this http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index . . . ct_uid=96664 is the same as the magicboxII mentioned here?
[17:13:00] scopeuk: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB_USB . . . DVB-T_USB2.0
[17:13:00] dasOp: | BackendServerIP | 192.168.1.121 | shine |
[17:13:00] dasOp: | MasterServerIP | 192.168.1.121 | NULL |
[17:13:00] dasOp: thats what I have
[17:13:00] dasOp: and it just works
[17:13:00] spankyhorawitz: similar to mine, except I'm using names for both
[17:13:00] dasOp: my backend is still in the testing phase
[17:14:00] spankyhorawitz: I assume shine = 192.168.1.121
[17:14:00] dasOp: just an old 850 with a grabber card in it
[17:14:00] dasOp: yup
[17:14:00] dasOp: altho shine doesnt resolve remotely
[17:14:00] spankyhorawitz: I've got an old Athlon box w/PVR-350
[17:14:00] dasOp: that should work fine
[17:14:00] spankyhorawitz: been playing with myth for a while now off/on
[17:14:00] dasOp: mpeg2 cards = not alot of cpu needed
[17:14:00] dasOp: a grabber card requires a bit more
[17:15:00] spankyhorawitz: right, that's why I fig'd old Athlon would work for backend for now
[17:15:00] spankyhorawitz: also have a mga400
[17:15:00] dasOp: I dont want a frontend on this box
[17:15:00] spankyhorawitz: me either
[17:15:00] GreyFoxx: spankyhorawitz: So you are entering a hostname for the server entry rather than an IP ?
[17:15:00] dasOp: I use the powerbook and dsmyth on windows
[17:15:00] spankyhorawitz: my goal is to get TV in my garage and backryard via network
[17:15:00] spankyhorawitz: I have satelite, no third box or cable in those locations
[17:16:00] spankyhorawitz: yes Grey
[17:16:00] spankyhorawitz: I've tried both
[17:16:00] GreyFoxx: spankyhorawitz: I'm 99% sure that hostnames are not an option
[17:16:00] spankyhorawitz: I put the name in recently just to make it diff from prev
[17:16:00] spankyhorawitz: ok, I'll change it back
[17:17:00] spankyhorawitz: can I just do it from mysql, or is there something that mythsetup does in addtion
[17:17:00] GreyFoxx: spankyhorawitz: You can update it directly in mysql
[17:17:00] spankyhorawitz: so the "data" fields should be IP's then
[17:17:00] Chutt: nowhere does it tell you that you can use hostnames.
[17:18:00] Chutt: help text for those items say 'ip address'
[17:18:00] spankyhorawitz: sure it does
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[17:18:00] spankyhorawitz: It hink
[17:18:00] spankyhorawitz: I think
[17:18:00] Chutt: you're wrong.
[17:18:00] spankyhorawitz: I saw it in setup
[17:18:00] Chutt: suuure, you did.
[17:18:00] spankyhorawitz: well, it worked on frontend/backend box
[17:18:00] GreyFoxx: No, it says IP right in the field and in the help text :)
[17:18:00] spankyhorawitz: just won't work on remote frontend
[17:18:00] Kelerion: ok – am a happy chappy.. got a frontend running in vmware :)
[17:19:00] spankyhorawitz: wow
[17:19:00] GreyFoxx: Kelerion: Heh
[17:19:00] spankyhorawitz: tha'ts kool Kelerion
[17:19:00] dasOp: spanky: there's quite a possibility that it defaults to localhost
[17:19:00] dasOp: spanky: if whatever is entered borks
[17:19:00] spankyhorawitz: damn
[17:19:00] spankyhorawitz: that's it
[17:20:00] Kelerion: it's not the *fastest* playback.. but just for watching something while I'm at my xp machine.. it's more than adequate :)
[17:20:00] dasOp: Kelerion: that seems like overkill compared to just using dsmyth/mythweb
[17:20:00] spankyhorawitz: works great as long as you don't kick the cord
[17:21:00] scopeuk: ok guys thansk for lettign me know bout dds myth that will finsih the job :-p
[17:21:00] scopeuk: i had a box spare for backend but i dident have anthing with tv out for a front end
[17:21:00] spankyhorawitz: thank you everyone!
[17:22:00] Kelerion: dasOp: if it's a pre-recorded show.. maybe.. but playing something that is still recording just isn't reliable
[17:22:00] spankyhorawitz: now I think I need to upgrade sound card on remote frontend. Sound really bad
[17:22:00] scopeuk: any one tried with qemu?
[17:22:00] Yellow-Snow: ARG
[17:22:00] Yellow-Snow: can smoeone help me? i installed VNC and for some reason its New "X" desktop
[17:23:00] spankyhorawitz: any idea if this is correctable in software?
[17:23:00] spankyhorawitz: 2006-02–05 09:24:16.955 audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 3672 need 4096
[17:23:00] Yellow-Snow: i dont want it to be X desktop i want it to be the real thing
[17:23:00] Kelerion: now.. if I can figure out why it takes about 2 minutes to mount a remote nfs export.. I'll be happy
[17:23:00] kormoc: Kelerion, do you have portmap installed and running?
[17:23:00] GreyFoxx: Kelerion: make sure portmap is running
[17:24:00] Kelerion: on the frontend or backend?
[17:24:00] GreyFoxx: both should be running it
[17:24:00] spankyhorawitz: Kelerion, I think that can happen with name resolution
[17:24:00] spankyhorawitz: issues
[17:25:00] kormoc: spankyhorawitz, name resolution issues would cause it not to work at all, not be slow
[17:26:00] spankyhorawitz: not if name server is slow. are they private IPs?
[17:26:00] kormoc: spankyhorawitz, 2 minutes would be over the timout value for the nameserver query
[17:26:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[17:26:00] Kelerion: bingo.. portmap was the problem.. thanks guys
[17:26:00] spankyhorawitz: right
[17:26:00] spankyhorawitz: 2 mins is excessive
[17:27:00] ** Kelerion wonders why portmap was removed in breezy **
[17:27:00] spankyhorawitz: then is SMB I'm thinking of that has name resolution issues???
[17:27:00] Yellow-Snow: how do u stop a program? or kill it?
[17:27:00] laga: Kelerion: i portmap  – The RPC portmapper
[17:27:00] bmk789: anyone have mythtv running in Ubuntu breezy amd64?
[17:27:00] laga: Kelerion: it's there :)
[17:27:00] kormoc: Yellow-Snow, killall program
[17:27:00] Yellow-Snow: kkk
[17:28:00] Kelerion: it was installed by default in hoary.. but not in breezy
[17:28:00] kormoc: Kelerion, likely the dev who removed it had no idea what it was
[17:29:00] spankyhorawitz: thanks again everyone. Time to button up the boxes and call it a success! ;-)
[17:30:00] Kelerion: installed it on another frontend too that was having the same problem.. works fine now.. mounting instantly
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[17:32:00] sportman: i need help finding a small size but 400 watt psu
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[17:37:00] rav3r: i need to find out what the brand of my on board audio is, i'm looking at the motherboard now, any hints what i should look for?
[17:37:00] sportman: hey u were there last night
[17:37:00] sportman: lo
[17:37:00] sportman: remember me?
[17:37:00] rav3r: yum
[17:37:00] rav3r: yup
[17:37:00] sportman: im still looking for a psu
[17:37:00] sportman: lol
[17:37:00] rav3r: i had to go to bed :(
[17:37:00] rav3r: hehe
[17:38:00] Yellow-Snow: 2 questions
[17:38:00] Yellow-Snow: how do u delete a file?
[17:38:00] Yellow-Snow: and how to you edit what boots on startup
[17:38:00] rav3r: slow process, isn't it
[17:38:00] rav3r: yellow-show, are you working with fedora?
[17:39:00] Yellow-Snow: no
[17:39:00] Yellow-Snow: knoppmyth
[17:39:00] Yellow-Snow: trying to get vnc working
[17:39:00] Yellow-Snow: not Xvnc
[17:39:00] Yellow-Snow: but i install vnc and run the server it auto comes up as Xvnc
[17:39:00] rav3r: my only experince is fedora, i followed jarod's guide, but maybe it can still help you: http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#auto
[17:41:00] rav3r: any idea about this sound brand name thing?
[17:41:00] junrelya: rav: try 'lspci' or 'cat /proc/pci'
[17:42:00] junrelya: rav: for instance, my lspci shows 00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 06)
[17:45:00] Yellow-Snow: ARG
[17:45:00] Yellow-Snow: WHY can i only install Xvnc
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[17:45:00] junrelya: yel: what package mgmt does knoppmyth use?
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[17:48:00] Yellow-Snow: idk man .. im not that good w/ linux
[17:48:00] Yellow-Snow: =\
[17:48:00] Yellow-Snow: so i cant figure this out
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[17:50:00] nasa: Is there a way to be viewing the program guide, select a channel and go to TV from there?
[17:50:00] GreyFoxx: If you load the EPG while in LiveTV you can
[17:50:00] GreyFoxx: just hit M when over the show you want to change to
[17:50:00] ** sportman waves to GreyFoxx **
[17:51:00] nasa: GreyFoxx: so programming a M key in my remote is requied?
[17:51:00] Kelerion: I just press enter when I'm on the guide to switch channel..
[17:51:00] GreyFoxx: Kelerion: That is configurable
[17:52:00] Kelerion: second screen of Setup/EPG "Use select to change channel etc etc"
[17:52:00] nasa: Kelerion: when I hit "ok" I get a menu for setting up recording for that channel
[17:52:00] Yellow-Snow: Can anyone help me w/ my VNC
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: nasa: It's configurable which behaviour is used
[17:52:00] nasa: GreyFoxx: from within mythtv-setup?
[17:53:00] Kelerion: frontend setup
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: the frontend I believe
[17:53:00] nasa: Yellow-Snow: what's your issue?
[17:53:00] Yellow-Snow: i install vnc.. well when i run it
[17:53:00] nasa: GreyFoxx & Kelerion: cool — thanks
[17:53:00] Yellow-Snow: it comes out as Xvnc.. i dont want X i want the real thing
[17:53:00] Kelerion: yellow.. which dist?
[17:53:00] Yellow-Snow: knoppmyth
[17:54:00] Kelerion: dunno then.. never used it.. but under my ubuntu I have "vino".. which runs vnc on the :0
[17:54:00] nasa: Yellow-Snow: did you install a server on the myth box and a viewer on your machine
[17:54:00] Yellow-Snow: yes
[17:54:00] Yellow-Snow: apt-get install vncserver
[17:54:00] Kelerion: that will open up a seondary X server on :1
[17:55:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: I use x11vnc.
[17:55:00] nasa: Yellow-Snow: I use tightvnc
[17:55:00] Yellow-Snow: hm
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[17:55:00] Yellow-Snow: is it real time?
[17:55:00] Yellow-Snow: or that X stuff
[17:55:00] Yellow-Snow: all i want is vnc thats live not the x
[17:55:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: it allows me to share my desktop instead of opening up a secondary x server.
[17:56:00] Yellow-Snow: share?
[17:56:00] nasa: I use tightvnc to do what you are talking about yellow-snow
[17:56:00] Yellow-Snow: ah ok
[17:56:00] Yellow-Snow: let me install it
[17:57:00] Yellow-Snow: ARG
[17:57:00] Yellow-Snow: tightvncserver did the same thing
[17:57:00] nasa: what do you mean?
[17:57:00] Yellow-Snow: tho slightly different
[17:58:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: What are you trying to do again?
[17:58:00] Yellow-Snow: have vnc thats LIVE.. i move the mouse.. it moves it on the other screen
[17:58:00] Kelerion: he's trying to open up vnc server on :0
[17:58:00] Yellow-Snow: yea
[17:58:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: Try x11vnc
[17:58:00] Yellow-Snow: k
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: Yellow-Snow: So, what is the stuff doing now that you don't want ?
[17:59:00] Yellow-Snow: its creating Xvnc everytime
[17:59:00] Kelerion: opening on :1 so he can't see it on the other comps monitor
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: And what you mean by that ?>
[17:59:00] Yellow-Snow: like its a different windows.. not live
[17:59:00] Yellow-Snow: a X session
[18:00:00] nasa: yellow-snow: when you get the dialog box after typing 'vncviewer' — type <box address>:0 , then the password
[18:00:00] GreyFoxx: I see
[18:00:00] Yellow-Snow: im using windows for vnc viewer
[18:00:00] monkeypet: x11vnc allows one to remotely view and interact with real X displays (i.e. a display corresponding to a physical monitor, keyboard, and mouse) with any VNC viewer. In this way it plays the role for Unix/X11 that WinVNC plays for Windows.
[18:00:00] junrelya: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/DTG/attarchive/vnc/xvnc.html
[18:01:00] kormoc: Yellow-Snow, what you want is not realted to VNC.
[18:01:00] Yellow-Snow: i dont want xvnc
[18:01:00] Yellow-Snow: oh
[18:01:00] Yellow-Snow: thats what i thought.. what program is creating X session
[18:01:00] kormoc: X does
[18:01:00] kormoc: but anyway
[18:01:00] Yellow-Snow: ? how do i go about removing it
[18:01:00] Kelerion: isn't vino available for knopp?
[18:01:00] kormoc: Yellow-Snow, you should look up NX
[18:02:00] kormoc: http://www.nomachine.com/
[18:02:00] Kelerion: I suspect NX will be erm.. over-kill for him
[18:03:00] GreyFoxx: x11vnc -display :0 -passwd blah will do what he wants
[18:03:00] kormoc: Kelerion, it's the only VNC like program that will have it's own Xsession that doesn't share with the phsical screen
[18:03:00] GreyFoxx: and is what he has been told over and over for days
[18:03:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, but that shared the physical screen, which he doesn't want
[18:03:00] GreyFoxx: he just said he wanted that, and that he doesn't want a seperate x sessioni
[18:03:00] kormoc: ooh, maybe I misread what he said then, sorry
[18:04:00] GreyFoxx: unless I'm completely misresading him
[18:04:00] Kelerion: he wants vnc to work under linux like it does under windows
[18:04:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, likely I am, as I just woke up :P
[18:04:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[18:04:00] Yellow-Snow: i know its possible
[18:04:00] Kelerion: Yellow-Snow: do what GreyFoxx just told you to
[18:05:00] Yellow-Snow: did doing again tho b/c i cant connect
[18:05:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: When you connect, you will need to type in ":0".
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[18:05:00] Yellow-Snow: X11vnc was unable to open the X display :0
[18:06:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: You need to run in terminal open from your desktop.
[18:06:00] GreyFoxx: Yellow-Snow: Then either X is not running, you are launching as a user that doesn';t have permissions, or you need to use xhost to give yourself authoiszation
[18:07:00] junrelya: you know, Xvnc would probably run as :1, then you could maybe export DISPLAY=:1.0; mythfrontend
[18:07:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: Login to the linux desktop, launch terminal, and type it again.
[18:07:00] junrelya: then connect to it using the windows viewer
[18:07:00] Kelerion: I just tryied *exactly* the line GreyFoxx posted and it works perfectly
[18:07:00] monkeypet: Kelerion: Yeah, I been using it for years. lol.
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[18:08:00] Yellow-Snow: aight well dont worry about it.. im gana try again when i get my new hd in b/c i have to reformat anyways.. im just trying to learn how to do everything before it comes in
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[18:08:00] Yellow-Snow: but i think x11vnc will work next time.. b/c i have been fucking w/ all the files
[18:09:00] Kelerion: Yellow-Snow: I suspect your logged in as one user and trying to launch x11vnc as root instead of that user
[18:09:00] ** GreyFoxx goes **
[18:09:00] Yellow-Snow: oh yea kelerion
[18:10:00] Yellow-Snow: as root
[18:10:00] Yellow-Snow: instead try the user?
[18:10:00] jnunez: What happened to mythgame-settings.txt?
[18:10:00] Kelerion: run it as the user your logged in as
[18:11:00] jnunez: how can I change the joystick settings
[18:11:00] webbnetsys: does anybody know how to speed up the frame rate of mythtv when I am watching TV?
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[18:12:00] Yellow-Snow: will this work w/ linux?
[18:12:00] Yellow-Snow: http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=2&a . . . s_id=93&
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[18:12:00] Kelerion: no idea
[18:13:00] Yellow-Snow: and who has their system to save power and hibernate
[18:13:00] jnunez: Yellow-Snow: It might work with the SDL Joystick but I can't test it. I have a radio shack version of the device
[18:13:00] Yellow-Snow: ah works well?
[18:13:00] Yellow-Snow: i mean ps controls are better then radio shack shit
[18:13:00] Yellow-Snow: + i already have 2
[18:13:00] jnunez: Nope. Cant find where to change the mythgame joystick settings
[18:14:00] Dudev|1727: Yellow-Snow I can tell you that I have the trio linker, ps2/dreamcast/gamecube to usb converter, and it works with no extra drivers in windows
[18:14:00] Dudev|1727: haven't tried it on my debian system though
[18:14:00] Yellow-Snow: ah
[18:14:00] webbnetsys: Anybody?
[18:14:00] webbnetsys: I am using the vesa driver and am using 460x680??
[18:14:00] monkeypet: webbnetsys: I think it is the livetv profile.
[18:15:00] Yellow-Snow: X11vnc works
[18:15:00] webbnetsys: It was working perfectly through Hauppage, and it there was no flaws at all.
[18:15:00] Yellow-Snow: I LOVE YOU GUYS!
[18:15:00] Yellow-Snow: YES!
[18:15:00] Yellow-Snow: gata do it as user
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[18:15:00] webbnetsys: What is in the livetv settings??
[18:15:00] Yellow-Snow: yup
[18:15:00] webbnetsys: I pretty much went through everything last night.
[18:15:00] monkeypet: webbnetsys: The recording profiles.
[18:16:00] Kelerion: Yellow-Snow: which is what GreyFoxx said before I did.. you need to read what people are tell you
[18:16:00] webbnetsys: monkeypet: I have a screeming system.
[18:16:00] Yellow-Snow: =\ sorry
[18:16:00] webbnetsys: recording or playback??
[18:16:00] webbnetsys: I was going to mess around with the recording and playback at two different sizes and see if that does anything.
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[18:17:00] Yellow-Snow: wait
[18:17:00] Kelerion: which of the plugins is it that pull kdelibs in as a requirement?
[18:17:00] Yellow-Snow: when i close xterm when i start x11vnc
[18:18:00] Yellow-Snow: the connect closes
[18:18:00] Kelerion: yup
[18:18:00] Yellow-Snow: ?
[18:18:00] Kelerion: when you close the xterm.. your closing all programs running in it.. including x11vnc
[18:19:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: you need to configure autologin and stuff http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frontend_Auto_Login
[18:20:00] Yellow-Snow: all i want to do is have it always running.. do i still have to do that monkey?
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[18:21:00] Kelerion: add it to xinitrc
[18:21:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: Just configure your desktop to start it up automatically.
[18:21:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: What desktop are you using?
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[18:23:00] Yellow-Snow: knoppmyth
[18:23:00] monkeypet: Yellow-Snow: No, desktop meaning KDE or GNOME.
[18:24:00] Yellow-Snow: oh sorry i believe its GNOME
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[18:24:00] Kelerion: I thought it used xfce
[18:25:00] md10md: anyone know anything about modelines for an HDTV in xfree86?
[18:25:00] monkeypet: You can go into the Gnome Control Center, and under Session – Startup
[18:25:00] monkeypet: Programs you can add programs to run when Gnome starts, like gkrellm for
[18:25:00] monkeypet: instance. :-) Setting the priority will dictate when in the start up
[18:25:00] monkeypet: squence it will load.
[18:26:00] Yellow-Snow: er i can get to the txt file that is the start i think
[18:26:00] Yellow-Snow: anywho what would i add to the txt file that loads all the files
[18:26:00] Yellow-Snow: x11vnc?
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[18:32:00] md10md: if I have a XF86Config file along with a XF86Config-4 file in the /etc/X11/ directory, which file will XF86 read from?
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[18:33:00] md10md: I'm trying to get my component output on my nvidia 6200 working
[18:33:00] md10md: and I can see the bootup stuff fine but as soon as X starts the screen goes black
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[18:35:00] nasa: In mythtv what keys are used to select visuals?
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[18:44:00] rav3r_: anyone else use x-chat?
[18:45:00] kormoc: I am
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[18:46:00] rav3r_: anyway not to have to type in #mythtv-users everytime i start?
[18:46:00] kormoc: sure
[18:47:00] kormoc: put it in the channels to join on connect section
[18:47:00] rav3r_: i was looking for something like that
[18:47:00] kormoc: xchat->server list
[18:47:00] kormoc: select the network
[18:47:00] kormoc: press edit
[18:48:00] kormoc: and then put it under channels to join
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[18:48:00] rav3r_: ah
[18:49:00] rav3r_: i was looking for a channel list or something
[18:49:00] rav3r_: (used to mirc)
[18:49:00] rav3r_: thanks!
[18:49:00] kormoc: np
[18:49:00] rav3r_: and thanks, junrelya, i see that it's intel now. didn't even have to open it up :(
[18:49:00] jasta: teehee. beer and football, how deliciously crude.
[18:50:00] junrelya: no prob, lspci is one of the greatest tools ever
[18:50:00] junrelya: kinda like msinfo32
[18:51:00] junrelya: can someone help me with sound issues?
[18:52:00] junrelya: i can get sound from other progs: xmms, mpg123...
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[18:56:00] foobum: hi, is anyone running svn on OS X?
[18:56:00] junrelya: as in svn HEAD of myth on osx(no), or and osx svn client(yes)?
[18:58:00] foobum: as in HEAD of myth on osx :)
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[18:58:00] arkadius: hello all
[18:59:00] arkadius: i'm arkadius remix
[18:59:00] arkadius: :P
[18:59:00] laga: o_O
[18:59:00] arkadius: evrybady house??
[18:59:00] laga: hello and welcome to #mythtv-users, mister remix.
[18:59:00] arkadius: :)
[19:00:00] arkadius: from polisch :)
[19:00:00] arkadius: and you froms??
[19:00:00] laga: germany ;)
[19:00:00] arkadius: germany good :P
[19:00:00] arkadius: you like polisch???
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[19:01:00] laga: never heard/read the language
[19:02:00] arkadius: hehehe
[19:03:00] arkadius: i'm back 15mn
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[19:04:00] Ubongo: hi all
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[19:05:00] junrelya: so i see this: Opening audio device '/dev/dsp' on stdout, hear nothing, and the video is choppy, please help!
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[19:06:00] Ubongo: I just installed myth...using a Hauppage PVR 150....I get a black screen when I select "watch TV"...any hints as to what I need to change?
[19:06:00] xpis: Is there any way to activate fast forward/timewarping with a specified modifier? (say, 1.2 for example)
[19:07:00] Nichotin: Ubongo: the channel frequency id's, probably
[19:07:00] Ubongo: I see...Is there a guide somewhere about setting up the channel frequency IDs?
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[19:08:00] Ubongo: the documentation doesn't mention too much about that
[19:13:00] wole: does anyone have a nicely optimised xbox frontend set up that i could have a copy of? (befor i go make one)
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[19:14:00] Bog_: hello
[19:15:00] Bog_: anyone with a PVR-500?
[19:16:00] Bog_: I'm creating a custom back panel for my PVR so it looks more like audio/video components
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[19:17:00] Bog_: I'm curious to how Line-in on the motherboard (EPIA SP) is different from Line-in on PVR-500?
[19:17:00] scopeuk: diferent sound device
[19:18:00] Bog_: I plan to use a lin-in adaptor from the mobo so my external connectors are L/R RC connectors
[19:18:00] scopeuk: and i think t says on the wiki that capturing through a bt device is normaly only mono
[19:18:00] Bog_: bt device?
[19:18:00] scopeuk: its to do wit hthe chipset
[19:18:00] scopeuk: i dotn claim to understand it but i rememebr reading it
[19:19:00] Bog_: the EPIA has stereo line in and line out
[19:19:00] cryos_laptop: Bog_: I have the same device but can't seem to get the tuners working right now... Just get static :(
[19:19:00] scopeuk: ouch
[19:20:00] Bog_: cryos :(
[19:20:00] scopeuk: i was lokign at the 500 and thinkign hwo cool oen whould be in the box im planning
[19:20:00] scopeuk: but the price put me off
[19:20:00] cryos_laptop: Didn't mind the price, but it is a bitch trying to get it working here.
[19:20:00] Bog_: scope: are there any other dual tuners
[19:20:00] scopeuk: i havent seen any
[19:20:00] scopeuk: although im sure there will be
[19:20:00] scopeuk: how much did you get you 500 for
[19:21:00] scopeuk:
[19:21:00] Bog_: cryos: I'm planning the case first
[19:21:00] cryos_laptop: The IR receiver and blaster doesn't seem to work at all either – have you had any luck?
[19:21:00] Bog_: cry: where does it connect?
[19:21:00] cryos_laptop:
[19:21:00] scopeuk: yeh
[19:21:00] cryos_laptop: Bog_: It is USB, and it is seen but no nodes created.
[19:21:00] Bog_: cry: I don't have it all yet
[19:22:00] scopeuk: is the mce edition of the 500 with a seperate back plate?
[19:22:00] cryos_laptop: I have the MCE edition, with the IR receiver/blaster and you get two IRC backplates (one with the card).
[19:23:00] Bog_: scope: I'm designing a case but will have a custom backplane... so the mobo will be about an inch in from the back
[19:23:00] cryos_laptop: So far I am not having very much luck any of it though.
[19:23:00] scopeuk: yeh
[19:23:00] scopeuk: im a get it working guy rarther than messign wit hasthetics
[19:23:00] cryos_laptop: As am I.
[19:23:00] scopeuk: although i can see how there miht be use for a fully laied out back plate
[19:24:00] cryos_laptop: So far it doesn't seem to.
[19:24:00] scopeuk: yeh
[19:24:00] Bog_: scope: or, I'll rotate the mobo so all the cables go along the side to the backplane
[19:24:00] scopeuk: you sure you antena can hit a decent signal on dvb?
[19:24:00] scopeuk: that could work
[19:24:00] cryos_laptop: I am just trying to get BBC1! I am going to try composite from my Sky box later too.
[19:25:00] cryos_laptop: The tuners don't seem to be getting set up properly.
[19:25:00] cryos_laptop: AFK for a while anyway – food :P
[19:25:00] scopeuk: bbc itv and some of the otehr chanels work off didferent antena grids
[19:25:00] scopeuk: good on you
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[19:26:00] Bog_: scope: I'm going to start doing designs for the faceplate too... something with an ipod like plastic.. something like http://products.sel.sony.com/xl1/index.html?D . . . l1_sonystyle
[19:26:00] laga: anyone got a sample xine command line for mythdvd handy? that'd rock, TIA.
[19:26:00] scopeuk: http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/coverage.html
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[19:26:00] scopeuk: you tried looking at the silverstone cases
[19:27:00] Bog_: scope: I'm very picky about style
[19:27:00] scopeuk: faier enough
[19:27:00] Bog_: scope: so I'll try to make the case, faceplate and backplate
[19:27:00] scopeuk: ok
[19:28:00] Bog_: scope: my harman kardon receiver and that new vaio are my inspiration
[19:28:00] scopeuk: i wish i had that sort of money to burn :-p
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[19:29:00] scopeuk: you could rip the guts out of an old tuner/video
[19:29:00] scopeuk: or dvd player
[19:29:00] Bog_: scope: I dont know what it will cost yet... if the vaio had a dual tuner I'd just buy that
[19:29:00] scopeuk: lol
[19:29:00] Manolis: Hello – Anyone know how to fix "Invalid command 'setenv'" – I get it with MythWeb SVN
[19:29:00] scopeuk: could you not get a vaio desktop and put in a dual tuner
[19:30:00] Bog_: scope: since I'm doing the faceplate design in CAD I'll see what it costs to do a rapid prototype
[19:30:00] xris: Manolis: read the readme?
[19:30:00] xris: Manolis: turn on mod_env... it's covered in the readme
[19:31:00] Bog_: scope: I dont think the vaio will be easily modified
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[19:31:00] Manolis: xris: Yes, and I think I have the modules loaded properly in modules.conf
[19:31:00] laga: xris: BTW, i finally made that bugreport regarding mythrename
[19:31:00] Manolis: This is in modules.conf --> LoadModule setenvif_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_setenvif.so
[19:31:00] xris: Manolis: if you're getting that error, then you haven't set things up properly
[19:31:00] scopeuk: oh is it one of those new fangled ones where its all been crushed into a box thats smaller than it should be?
[19:31:00] Manolis: xris: OK fair enough I'll re-examine everything
[19:32:00] xris: Manolis: the module is mod_env, not mod_setenvif
[19:32:00] rav3r_: can anyone help me out with my audio? i have my s/pdif hooked up, but can't seem to get it to work
[19:32:00] Bog_: scope: yes and no. Go to http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enf . . . LivingSystem and click on more images
[19:32:00] Bog_: scope: you'll see the video card should be easily removed
[19:33:00] rav3r_: i've never used s/pdif before
[19:33:00] Manolis: xris: doh! sorry & thanks
[19:34:00] Bog_: scope: I'm really concerned how loud the vaio would be in the living room
[19:34:00] rav3r_: im in kde, fedora core 4
[19:34:00] Bog_: scope: so I'm paying particular attention to heat and noise
[19:34:00] rav3r_: trying to follow jarod's guide
[19:35:00] scopeuk: yeh
[19:35:00] Bog_: scope: plan on using a DC power supply, fanless mobo, and a notebook hdd even
[19:35:00] scopeuk: if its a media center pc it should be quiet
[19:36:00] Bog_: scope: will even use some rubber washers to reduce vibrations from the drives
[19:36:00] Manolis: xris: Thanks and sorry again, that was the trick.
[19:36:00] scopeuk: yeh i have drive rubbers
[19:36:00] scopeuk: they were built into my case
[19:37:00] xris: Manolis: :)
[19:37:00] Bog_: scope: however, if I could find a DVD Recorder with HDD that had two tuners I'd be all over it
[19:38:00] Bog_: scope: I've been thinking of working in a bay for a removable hdd
[19:39:00] Bog_: accessible from under the fold down flap on the front
[19:39:00] Bog_: know of any existing assemblies for removable notebook drives?
[19:41:00] scopeuk: think i ahve seen that dvd recorder
[19:41:00] Bog_: scope: you've seen a DVD recorder with two tuners?
[19:43:00] scopeuk: i belive so
[19:43:00] scopeuk: wa dvb dual tuner with hdd and dvd recorder
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[19:43:00] Bog_: lemme google
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[19:46:00] Bog_: is the pvr-350 a dual tuner?
[19:46:00] laga: nope
[19:46:00] laga: pvr 500 is
[19:46:00] Bog_: ok
[19:46:00] Bog_: thats what I thought
[19:47:00] Bog_: one article incorrectly called pvr-350 a dual tuner
[19:47:00] Bog_: http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,120534,00.asp
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[19:51:00] Manolis: What is "mythcontrols" ?
[19:52:00] laga: a plugins that allows you to map keys to actions
[19:52:00] Manolis: laga: thanks
[19:52:00] laga: np :)
[19:52:00] rmiddle: Question I am tring to setup CernOS 4.2 and having trouble getting my bttv card to work. Had no problem with ivtv but can't get a simple bt8x8 card to work any idea were to look? I used atrpms.net rpms
[19:54:00] Bog_: scope: this is interesting.. http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/pvr-9200t.asp
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[19:58:00] Kelerion: you mean CentOS?
[19:58:00] scopeuk: google for the modal number and linux and there will probably be a hacked firmare somewhere that wil llet you use a usb network adaptor
[19:58:00] Beirdo: laga: it now tracks nicks as people join/leave/quit, etc
[19:59:00] Beirdo: ;)
[19:59:00] laga: Beirdo: you rule. ;)
[19:59:00] unkn0wn2u: geek
[19:59:00] Beirdo: which will make stuff like "!seen laga" possible as a side effect
[20:00:00] unkn0wn2u: geek
[20:00:00] Beirdo: without tracking nicks, the /nick and /quit can't be sanely logged in the channel logs in a multi-channel logger
[20:00:00] unkn0wn2u: geek
[20:01:00] Beirdo: unkn0wn2u, in case you didn't realize... "geek" is a compliment to a true geek :) not an insult... so thanks
[20:01:00] laga: unkn0wn2u: your point...?
[20:01:00] laga: Beirdo: !seen is nice, too. people tend to get...lost sometimes ;)
[20:01:00] Beirdo: yup
[20:02:00] Kelerion: !seen my_brain
[20:02:00] Kelerion: bugger.. guess not
[20:02:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:02:00] Beirdo: it's not even in this channel
[20:02:00] Beirdo: and I haven't implemented !seen yet :)
[20:02:00] Kelerion: just messin' :)
[20:02:00] Beirdo: I will likely do so, it's a useful tool
[20:03:00] xris: Beirdo: going to have to get it to start echoing ticket numbers when someone types #123
[20:03:00] xris: or links...
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[20:03:00] Beirdo: yeah, that's more of a web frontend thing though :)
[20:04:00] xris: well, would be nice here, too
[20:04:00] Beirdo: like !ticket #123
[20:04:00] Beirdo: yeah, could be handy :)
[20:04:00] xris: yeah
[20:04:00] ** Kelerion becomes really happy they fixed the double-escape crash **
[20:04:00] laga: and stuff whjere certain triggers like !wiki wouldn have it spit outn links, but you said that'd be bloaty ;)
[20:04:00] xris: trac is all rss-friendly, so you could make it web-aware and grab that stuff.  :)
[20:04:00] laga: Kelerion: they did? woohoo! svn up time!
[20:04:00] Kelerion: that alone will make my FE 200% more stable
[20:04:00] Beirdo: right now it's just a silent bot that logs :)
[20:05:00] Kelerion: laga: I tried to find a commit but couldn't.. but noticed it when I did a svn last night
[20:05:00] Beirdo: in multiple channels across multiple servers (should you wish)
[20:05:00] Kelerion: tried it on a couple of machines now and all is fine in the land of the cuckoos :)
[20:06:00] xris: Beirdo: should still do the "this channel is logged" thing... but just limit it to one message/day or something like that
[20:06:00] Beirdo: yeah, we could make it do that periodically
[20:06:00] xris: well, the per-person message is nice.
[20:07:00] xris: some peopel really don't like being logged, nice to get them to just leave. heh
[20:07:00] Beirdo: it is. That's simple enough to add
[20:07:00] Kelerion: some people seem to have notices turned off in their irc client though
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[20:07:00] Beirdo: although if it uses privmsg, it's tricky if the server requires it to be registered first
[20:07:00] xris: ahh, true
[20:07:00] Beirdo: notices I'm sure are possible
[20:08:00] lightx: is their a trick to have live tv audio sync ?
[20:08:00] laga: lightx: let me guess, your audio is like 2 seconds off?
[20:08:00] Beirdo: heh, I should add an auto-trouting if someone mentions laga's favourite garden gnomes
[20:08:00] lightx: something like that
[20:08:00] Kelerion: laga: combination of fixing that bug and changing the *exit* key should help *tons* with usability
[20:09:00] lightx: ?
[20:09:00] rtsai: xris: tv listings are keyed by chanid, right?
[20:09:00] xris: lightx: your sound input is set up wrong.. you're not recording the sound, but just playing it back through the speaker.
[20:09:00] xris: mute the sound-in, and set it for record-mode.
[20:09:00] xris: rtsai: the channels, yes
[20:09:00] rtsai: xris: do you have multiple tuners?
[20:10:00] xris: air2pc and pvr-150
[20:10:00] laga: Beirdo: that'd rock. ;)
[20:10:00] rtsai: I have a problem where I have two tuners both pulling in separate antenna OTA signals (a different subset, think bat to moving rabbit ears around in the old days).
[20:10:00] laga: lightx: i'm sure your issue is covered by the documentation
[20:10:00] rtsai: For overlapping channels, I have, say, 1381 and 2381.
[20:11:00] rtsai: The scheduler will choose say 1381, but tv listings will happen to choose 2381 (GROUP BY), so it won't mark a show as "WillRecord"
[20:11:00] rtsai: So I think channels should (for the purposes of deciding "WillRecord"edness) key by callsign or channum or something
[20:11:00] lightx: laga: so its not going through /dev/pcm ?
[20:12:00] xris: rtsai: that chanid info comes from the backend.
[20:12:00] lightx: i mean /dev/dsp
[20:12:00] laga: lightx: read the manual :)
[20:12:00] xris: if it's not recording on the second tuner, it shouldn't show "will record"
[20:12:00] Beirdo: anyways, I need a nap
[20:12:00] ** MooingLemur moos for no reason. **
[20:12:00] Beirdo: then I'll look at what to work on in the bot next
[20:12:00] laga: night Beirdo
[20:12:00] Beirdo: MOO!
[20:12:00] ** laga moos back **
[20:12:00] rtsai: Let me try to rephrase. Both my tuners can pull in channum 38.1, which is two separate chanids 1381 and 2381.
[20:13:00] rtsai: The mythweb TV listings end up choosing either 1381 or 2381 for the listings.
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[20:13:00] xris: rtsai: doesn't show them both?
[20:13:00] rtsai: If it chooses wrong, then the key with Scheduled_Recording doesn't match.
[20:13:00] rtsai: xris: Ah, no, I only get one of 1381 or 2381.
[20:13:00] rtsai: You're saying it should show both?
[20:13:00] xris: rtsai: ahh, that's an issue.
[20:13:00] xris: I'm pretty sure it should show both
[20:13:00] rtsai: if they're both the same channel, I'd prefer that it only show up once.
[20:13:00] rtsai: They really are the same channel, it's just that both of my sources can get them.
[20:14:00] xris: or not. crap
[20:14:00] xris: group by channum,callsugn
[20:14:00] rtsai: right
[20:14:00] rtsai: that makes "chanid" kind of random
[20:14:00] xris: yeah
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[20:14:00] xris: well, most reliable fix is to show them both
[20:14:00] rtsai: Hmm.
[20:15:00] rtsai: Would you have a problem with something that showed some kind of merged version?
[20:15:00] rtsai: They have the same schedule; the only problem is figuring out that something is a WillRecord
[20:15:00] xris: no.. merging would be a better UI
[20:15:00] xris: let me check in this "show them all" patch quickly, though.
[20:15:00] rtsai: So your Air2PC and PVR cards don't have overlapping channels (you separate digital from analog channels)?
[20:16:00] xris: separate.. "4" vs "4_1"
[20:16:00] xris: since many of my digital channels have several...
[20:16:00] lightx: laga, i have a pvr 250, shouldnt it be embedded in the stream?
[20:16:00] rtsai: I see.
[20:16:00] xris: pbs is channel 9, but has 4 separate hd channels
[20:17:00] laga: lightx: oh, yeah. you shouldn't have issues then.
[20:17:00] rtsai: yeah, i have a similar setup here.
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[20:17:00] lightx: well, it still is lagging! ..
[20:17:00] rtsai: xris: ok, i'll wait for your checkin before I start thinking of what to do.
[20:17:00] laga: lightx: in the frontend, under settings – tv – playback, there's a options for a larger sound buffer or something, try that
[20:17:00] xris: rtsai: ok, it just went in.
[20:17:00] rtsai: xris: thanks.
[20:19:00] lightx: laga, should i turn on use video as a timebase?
[20:20:00] lightx: hum, that might have done the trick
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[20:22:00] rav3r_: im following the instructions here: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/DigitalSoundH . . . 72f1b4d1ffc6 and when i do aplay -D digital /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav why do i get Unknown PCM digital  ?
[20:23:00] Manolis: Anyone using the a recent SVN version of MythWeb?
[20:23:00] xris: Manolis: I am.
[20:23:00] Manolis: I get an error when I choose "Never Record" in "Scheduled Recordings"
[20:23:00] Manolis: http://www.perdignus.com/mythweberror.html
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[20:24:00] xris: sounds like your db didn't get set up properly
[20:24:00] xris: unless someone removed the recordid field from the db schema and didn't tell me
[20:24:00] Manolis: xris: when I ran the SVN mythbackend for the first time it looked like it update the db schema
[20:25:00] xris: Manolis: I'll have to check.. need to upgrade my backend
[20:25:00] rav3r: basically, what's Unknown PCM digital telling me i have to do?
[20:25:00] Manolis: xris: thanks, otherwise "Don't Record" works fine, just not "Never Record"
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[20:27:00] xris: yeah, they do completely different things db-wise
[20:28:00] MaxPower: anyone here use mythdora?
[20:30:00] winga: ok i have somewhat of a stupid question, lets say i want to watch livetv but it's recording the show i want to watch and i don't want to watch everything up to "live"
[20:30:00] winga: is there a "jump to end" sort of thing available?
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[20:42:00] scopeuk: how much storage do you guys think is resonable for myth usage
[20:42:00] scopeuk: 150 – 200 gig?
[20:43:00] Krazylegz: As much as you can afford.
[20:43:00] scopeuk: yeh was kindof expecting that
[20:44:00] rav3r: anyone have experience with audio setup with asla?
[20:44:00] scopeuk: you mean alsa?
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[20:45:00] scopeuk: youed probably be better off talkign to the peopel who maintain/use your distribution
[20:45:00] rav3r: little dyslexia there
[20:45:00] scopeuk: hey me 2
[20:45:00] rav3r: fedora core 4
[20:45:00] scopeuk: youll see me type lsot alot
[20:45:00] cougar_h: what does it mean:
[20:45:00] cougar_h: [mpeg @ 0x4090d360]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
[20:46:00] rav3r: trying to debugg "Unknown PCM digital"
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[20:46:00] scopeuk: i dont know why im tryign to help im prety crap with linux and i havent even got myth isntalled yet
[20:48:00] rav3r: lol
[20:48:00] rav3r: me either
[20:48:00] rav3r: i mean me too
[20:48:00] rav3r: crap with linux
[20:48:00] rav3r: i do have mythinstalled
[20:48:00] rav3r: guess that's something
[20:48:00] rav3r: roommate was all excited about this when i started it
[20:49:00] rav3r: 3 months ago
[20:49:00] scopeuk: yeh i couldentfidn my spare 60 gig drive
[20:49:00] rav3r: now, he's like, that's too much work
[20:49:00] ** laga hands scopeuk a new keyboard ;) **
[20:49:00] SlicerDicer-: hey xris I did not get the bitrate calculations right it looked really pixelized. I do find however that I cannot seem to find the video codec for that hdtv I can play it but I cannot transcode it? Very strange..
[20:49:00] rav3r: but, it will be worth it!
[20:49:00] ** scopeuk thanks laga **
[20:50:00] scopeuk: yeh ive told a few friends i planed on ahvign a go with yth there all like thats soo cool wherecan i get it
[20:50:00] scopeuk: these are peopple that dont know what linux looks like
[20:50:00] spankyhorawitz: I'm back
[20:50:00] scopeuk: and in many cases fidn installing windows xp difficult
[20:50:00] spankyhorawitz: my last issue then I'll go away, I promise
[20:50:00] scopeuk: howdy
[20:51:00] spankyhorawitz: I have a G400-TV that I just can't seem to figure out
[20:51:00] spankyhorawitz: I'm looking over the list and googl'ing, but I'm not having much luck
[20:53:00] spankyhorawitz: was hoping to find a fellow Matrox user who's had success
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[20:53:00] spankyhorawitz: My current platform is gentoo
[20:54:00] scopeuk: think i jsut foudn a backend system http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index . . . t_uid=103005
[20:54:00] Manolis: Weird, MythWeb shows program info but the EPG shows only UNKNOWN
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[20:57:00] Juski: evening
[20:58:00] EricL: Would I get a performance increase if I changed the arch=pentiumpro config option when building mythtv from source?
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[20:58:00] achew22: Hi All!
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[21:02:00] laga: hi Juski
[21:02:00] Juski: hi laga. good weekend?
[21:02:00] laga: EricL: tried ./configure --enable-proc-opt yet (or however it is spelled)?
[21:02:00] laga: Juski: yeah, quite exhausting :). how was yours?
[21:02:00] rav3r: where would be the best place to ask about s/pdif out from fedora core 4?
[21:03:00] Juski: pretty damn fine actually :)
[21:03:00] laga: Juski: :)
[21:03:00] xris: Manolis: recordid is still there. I think your db schema got messed upp
[21:06:00] Manolis: xris: Is the schema update automagic or did I miss something in a README ? I went from 18.2 to yesterday's SVN
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[21:07:00] xris: Manolis: it's automatic. but something must have gone wrong. recordid is still in the oldrecorded table, but for some reason yours doesn't have it.
[21:08:00] Manolis: xris: anyway to manually do the schema update?
[21:08:00] xris: not really
[21:08:00] xris: that field has been there since .18, though. and was never touched
[21:08:00] Juski: laga: dbox2 network is foo-barred.. hopefully a re-flash will fix it
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[21:08:00] laga: Juski: well, did it ever work correctly? ;)
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[21:09:00] Juski: it did, but it's not responding to ping, webserver isn't accepting connections, so my channel change script won't work
[21:09:00] laga: Juski: would you know a place where i could get free (OSS-ish, preferably) artwork suitable for dvd menu backgrounds?
[21:10:00] Juski: laga: no idea. I make all my own
[21:10:00] Juski: usually with video ;-)
[21:10:00] laga: Juski: k
[21:10:00] laga: Juski: hehe
[21:11:00] Juski: just find a picture you like & clip it to 720x576.. if you want widescreen menus just stretch it to 1024x576 & resize back to 720x576
[21:11:00] foobum: anyone running a recent (svn) myth on OS X?
[21:12:00] Juski: oh yeah.. that reminds me of what I was up to before the weekend :-/ grrr
[21:12:00] laga: Juski: thanks :). i'm currently installing the gimp. doesn't ship with kubuntu by default o_O
[21:12:00] Juski: strangeness
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[21:13:00] Juski: btw you know the new mythtranscode ... could that be used with 0.18.1 ?
[21:14:00] laga: Juski: i don't think so. but you can build a standalone executable, search for mpeg2fix. BTW, you'll still need to run replex on the resulting files, unfortunately
[21:14:00] Juski: bah
[21:15:00] Juski: actually that won't help me either will it?
[21:15:00] Juski: cos it's mplex or jpeg2yuv that's broken
[21:15:00] laga: well, depends on what your issue is ;)
[21:15:00] achew22: YAY-- i killed gnome and got kde working!
[21:15:00] Juski: I might just modify the script to email me the files & I'll do it myself :-P
[21:15:00] laga: oh, hum. get a new mplex or jpeg2yuv ;).
[21:15:00] laga: Juski: hehe
[21:16:00] Juski: laga: I tried the newest, and an older one.. no joy with those either
[21:17:00] Juski: I wonder if I've anything missing from my use flags
[21:21:00] rav3r: is working with cvs very advanced?
[21:21:00] Juski: rav3r: cvs of what?
[21:22:00] rav3r: im still trying to get my digital sound to work, and i found this: "The S/PDIF support in this chipset currently requires a CVS version of ALSA..."
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[21:23:00] Juski: cvs is pretty simple to use
[21:23:00] rav3r: i've never done it
[21:24:00] rav3r: but, i've done lots of things over the past couple weeks i've never done
[21:24:00] achew22: Does anyone know how to start mythbackend on bootup on ubuntu (which is based on debian)
[21:24:00] kormoc: achew22, did you read the mythtv docs?
[21:25:00] achew22: it only has stuff for mandrake and redhat
[21:25:00] rav3r: do you usually have to register for cvs access?
[21:25:00] achew22: its section 23.12
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[21:25:00] Juski: rav3r: you don't normally have to register just to check stuff out of CVS
[21:26:00] rav3r: do i just make any folder to hold the download?
[21:26:00] Juski: basically
[21:26:00] laga: achew22: mythtv in ubuntu comes with init scripts. you can fiddle with them with update-rc.d, for example. i'd suggest that you check the ubuntu docs/wiki
[21:27:00] achew22: okay.. thank you
[21:27:00] laga:
[21:27:00] Juski: laga: nope
[21:27:00] Juski: safer cflags?
[21:27:00] laga: Juski: might be worth a try.
[21:27:00] Juski: like without mmx & stuff?
[21:27:00] laga: Juski: compiler optimizations, i mean. yep.
[21:27:00] Kelerion: Juski: remember that cctv camera I was talking about?
[21:27:00] laga: Juski: and prolly check the gentoo bugzilla/forums as well
[21:27:00] Juski: might be an idea
[21:28:00] Juski: laga: someone asked on a gentoo bugzilla/forum.. no reply other than a shouting at for posting in the wrong area
[21:28:00] laga: hehe
[21:28:00] Juski: Kelerion: yeh I remember that.. did it arrive?
[21:28:00] Kelerion: I called 'em today and they said they were out of stock.. and its gonna be a while till they get some more.. so am looking at others (in the uk)
[21:29:00] Kelerion: I remember you said the ones with all the LEDS around the lense are crap.. is that right?
[21:29:00] Juski: yeh they are, unless you want to have a halo on all the images
[21:29:00] Kelerion: so http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/waterproof_camera.htm ?
[21:29:00] Kelerion: it has loads of em
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[21:30:00] Juski: Kelerion: those little bullet cameras aren't bad, but I'd not get one with the IR LEDs built in
[21:31:00] Kelerion: the 20m at 0 lux sounded impressive
[21:31:00] Juski: or I'd modify it so the leds are futher away from the lens ;-)
[21:31:00] mediaman: head has an internal dvd player, how does one enable this for dvd playback instead of it launching xine or mplayer?
[21:31:00] Kelerion: lol
[21:32:00] Juski: eew... mjpegtools failed to build... blah blah nasty error
[21:32:00] laga: mediaman: compile it and use 'internal' as the dvd player command
[21:32:00] Kelerion: it has a bnc connector.. how do you plug that into a pc? my tv cards dont have them
[21:32:00] Juski: so buy a BNC-phono adapter for about £0.50 from Maplin
[21:32:00] mediaman: ah, that helps, that's not said in the info :)
[21:32:00] Kelerion: ahh
[21:32:00] Kelerion: simple as that huh? lol
[21:33:00] Juski: laga: disabling mmx makes the build fail :-(
[21:33:00] laga: Juski: that sucks :/
[21:33:00] Kelerion: yanno.. I bet it wouldn't be too difficult to move the lense further forward in that model.. it's already in front of the leds
[21:34:00] Juski: it's going back on the shelf. time to reflash the dbox
[21:34:00] rav3r: how do i tell what the version of alsa is in the cvs?
[21:34:00] laga: Juski: keep me posted whenif you get back to it ;)
[21:34:00] Juski: I hope all it is is that I telnetted into it the other day & looked at some files... it's easily broken like that
[21:35:00] Juski: ah no it's not mmx that made it fail... just goofed out again
[21:35:00] laga: Juski: by *looking* at it?
[21:35:00] Juski: laga: yup
[21:35:00] Juski: the fs is very touchy
[21:35:00] laga: Juski: well, i knew it was fragile..
[21:35:00] ** laga sets mode +craptacular dbox **
[21:35:00] Juski: ERROR: media-video/mjpegtools-1.8.0-r1 failed.
[21:35:00] Juski: !!! Function src_compile, Line 89, Exitcode 2
[21:36:00] meushi: heh
[21:36:00] meushi: laga: a shame there's no integration for dreambox/relook in myth
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[21:36:00] laga: meushi: well, get coding ;)
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[21:37:00] meushi: laga: good point, except I don't have a dream or relook at this point :)
[21:37:00] laga: meushi: hehe
[21:37:00] meushi: but if they were supported, I'd get some in no time
[21:37:00] laga: meushi: the dreambox uses neutrino, right?
[21:37:00] meushi: that would solve my current "not enough PCI slots in modern mobos" problem
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[21:38:00] meushi: laga: can use neutrino, yes... just not the best image around for them
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[21:38:00] laga: meushi: ok. well, neutrino works with mythtv. i think i've even heard levon (the author of the dbox patch) recommend dreamboxen
[21:38:00] meushi: ah
[21:40:00] rav3r: the install instructions say bunzip2 alsa-driver-xxx, and im guessing the xxx should be the version but i can't find it
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[21:41:00] achew22: what switch starts mythbackend as a deamon?
[21:42:00] dtm: achew22: it does by default
[21:42:00] achew22: thanks
[21:42:00] meushi: laga: ok, I'll try to get one soon then... I'll also have a look at the patch, could be easy to port it for other images
[21:42:00] dtm: achew22: er no it's -d
[21:43:00] scopeuk: shame dreambox/neutrino are illegal in uk
[21:43:00] scopeuk: networks dont support tere use
[21:43:00] scopeuk: fear of the unknown
[21:43:00] achew22: okay so if I add an item to the menu and I would put it in as "mythbackend -d" and and have it run from terminal
[21:43:00] dtm: achew22: to what menu
[21:43:00] achew22: kde menu
[21:44:00] dtm: achew22: i use this -> mythbackend -d -l /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[21:44:00] achew22: dtm:okay.. lets see if it works
[21:45:00] dtm: let's.
[21:45:00] Juski: dreamboxes etc aren't illegal though. using em for naughty things is
[21:45:00] scopeuk: yeh
[21:45:00] scopeuk: but the networks wont let you use em
[21:45:00] scopeuk: and its a breach of contract to use unauterised equipement
[21:45:00] achew22: now when I go to taskmanager its not there
[21:46:00] ** nanoITX is so glad he has decent TOS with his ISP... but then again I pay about 2x to 3x to get it. **
[21:46:00] dtm: achew22: naturally. it's a daemon.
[21:46:00] meushi: scopeuk: well, I can see why Sky wouldn't like them... card sharing and stuff
[21:46:00] achew22: wouldn't it be in the process list though? appache is
[21:46:00] scopeuk: ntl hate them
[21:46:00] ** braniff wonders what a *dreambox* is... **
[21:46:00] scopeuk: alot of people use em to get allchanels including ppv for nothing
[21:46:00] nanoITX: since when is an SMTP server (that does not relay), or SSHD unreasonable? Damn a**hole ISPs...
[21:46:00] scopeuk: normaly people that dont even have a contract currently
[21:47:00] braniff: oh
[21:47:00] meushi: braniff: a small linux sat receiver with extra functions... such as PVR over SMB
[21:47:00] nanoITX: Oh, this is about a *cable* co?
[21:47:00] scopeuk: they jsut kick the box in on the streeet reconect there flat/house and hook up the box
[21:47:00] scopeuk: yeh
[21:47:00] dtm: nanoITX: since the "public" joined the internet
[21:47:00] nanoITX: dtm: sucks, don't it?
[21:47:00] laga: dtm: september that never ended?
[21:47:00] dtm: on broadband
[21:47:00] dtm: laga: :[
[21:48:00] Juski: scopeuk: yeh when their own engineers aren't selling dodgy boxes out of their own vans!
[21:48:00] dtm: DARN YEW, PUBLIC!
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[21:48:00] Juski: (cos they are!)
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[21:48:00] braniff: nanoITX, you can use port redirection and multiple other ways to get around ISPs blocking incoming smtp,ssh servers etc
[21:48:00] scopeuk: yeh i knwo they are
[21:48:00] scopeuk: my cable went a while back
[21:48:00] scopeuk: it was an expense we could no logner afford
[21:48:00] dtm: braniff: port redirection from where?
[21:49:00] nanoITX: my wife is in a chatroom, with a web-based wonky java client that just won't work well in firefox... so I have her ask the chatroom what the IRC server, port, and channel are and.... NO ONE KNOWS.
[21:49:00] scopeuk: if i still ahd it id have had a box
[21:49:00] scopeuk: thats what happens when you let people withlut a clue in
[21:49:00] nanoITX: braniff: yes, but I like to stay legal. As a foreigner in the U.S. what would be a minor civil issue can be considered a felony.
[21:49:00] scopeuk: you could try netstat -a
[21:49:00] sportman: my vcr kicks ass
[21:49:00] sportman: its almost complete
[21:49:00] sportman: i just need to get a capture card
[21:49:00] nanoITX: braniff: '
[21:49:00] sportman: that is small enough
[21:49:00] braniff: say the isp allows any one incoming port....then you can run a vpn concentrator/ssh server or whatever on that port --- voila!
[21:50:00] nanoITX: 'sides, I don't want to have to play cat and mouse... my time is too valuable.
[21:50:00] kormoc: nanoITX, not all java chats are irc frontends
[21:50:00] nanoITX: braniff: I know all the technical ways to get around such things... ‭ I just don't want to deal with the legal hassles... it's bad enough that I'm playing DVDs that I own under Linux
[21:51:00] braniff: heh ok
[21:51:00] nanoITX: kormoc: yeah, I was afraid of that. but they keep calling it their IRC chatroom on the web, so I figured...
[21:51:00] kormoc: nanoITX, hehe, don't count on people knowing what IRC actually means :)
[21:51:00] achew22: internet relay chat
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[21:52:00] nanoITX: anyway, it's the difference between $29.95 and a lot of work to get around things, or $60 and no work.
[21:52:00] kormoc: nanoITX, but in anycase, you might want to look into installing the sun JVM rather then blackdown (As most distros (all?)) use blackdown, and it's slightly different then sun's
[21:52:00] meushi: achew22: no, it is I Repeat Classes
[21:52:00] scopeuk: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAGEM-D-BOX-2-BLACK-CAB . . . cmdZViewItem for isntance its just destroying the market for the rest of us
[21:52:00] achew22: lol right
[21:52:00] nanoITX: kormoc: yeah, if I get around to it. But I prefer all open source stuff on my machines at home.
[21:52:00] scopeuk: id love a cable box that was compatible with myth or anythign else on my network tbh
[21:53:00] kormoc: nanoITX, sun's is opensource, just requires you to agree to the licence before downloading iirc
[21:53:00] AeSSeD: I install mythtv, work fine but I don't hear voice from tv
[21:53:00] nanoITX: Oh, that's news to me.
[21:53:00] nanoITX: It is funny, though, considering who I work for.
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[21:54:00] Beirdo: kormoc, Sun Java? I don't think it's open SOURCE
[21:54:00] meushi: kormoc: it's not OSS, it's only free as in beer
[21:54:00] nanoITX: they want me to take a laptop home to work remotely, but have a policy against it being on a LAN with open source software.
[21:54:00] Beirdo: but it's a free license for sure
[21:54:00] rav3r: anyone willing to walk me through this asla cvs thing?
[21:54:00] meushi: Beirdo: free as in beer, the OSS'ing hasn't happened yet
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[21:54:00] nanoITX: and I'm not keen to run a SECOND DMZ
[21:54:00] dtm: nanoITX: what's this? mandatory overtime?
[21:54:00] kormoc: sorry
[21:55:00] Beirdo: meushi, free as in you don't pay for it
[21:55:00] meushi: yup
[21:55:00] nanoITX: dtm: for what they pay me, they deserve it.
[21:55:00] kormoc: Beirdo, meushi, nanoITX, yeah. The source I saw was sdk example source code, not the sdk's actually sorce...
[21:55:00] meushi: they've been talking of OSS'ing it for years, just never done it
[21:55:00] Beirdo: ahhh
[21:55:00] rav3r: im really confused
[21:56:00] nanoITX: dtm: besides, in some cases it beats driving 20 mi / 32 km into the office
[21:56:00] meushi: <-- ex Sun employee
[21:56:00] braniff: hmm...slashdot story the other day said Sun's JVM was going open source
[21:56:00] braniff: don't remember when it's supposed to happen
[21:56:00] meushi: braniff: they keep saying it will happen since early 2000
[21:56:00] Beirdo: oh, slashdot. there's a reliable source
[21:56:00] dtm: nanoITX: so your employer doesn't allow a host to be on the same lan as any host that's running free software? did i undersatnd that correctly?
[21:56:00] braniff: vaporware
[21:57:00] meushi: especially /. on a stable direction company as Sun
[21:57:00] rav3r: bunzip2 alsa-driver-xxx returns No such file or directory
[21:57:00] AeSSeD: Why I hear the suond with kdetv but not with mythtv???
[21:57:00] Beirdo: someone needs to go back and read the docs :)
[21:58:00] Beirdo: in particular look for the section about the sound with echoing audio
[21:58:00] AeSSeD: I'm reading :)
[21:58:00] nanoITX: dtm: a bit more strict than that... no host on the same lan as any host that HAS free software.
[21:59:00] braniff: seems a bit draconian
[21:59:00] Beirdo: nanoITX, I wish you employer luck in surviving
[21:59:00] nanoITX: I understand why: they don't want noob devs "accidentally" incorporating GPL code
[21:59:00] Beirdo: then train the damn devs
[22:00:00] nanoITX: Beirdo: easier said than done.
[22:00:00] rav3r: where is alsa-driver-xxx supposed to be?
[22:00:00] meushi: nanoITX: by following their policy, you shouldn't even be able to connect a winhoze box... BSD tcp stack
[22:00:00] braniff: training? that went away years ago in american tech companies
[22:00:00] nanoITX: BSD isn't GPL
[22:00:00] kormoc: if a company has devs who are not worthwhile to train, it's rather doubtful it's gonna go anywhere imho
[22:00:00] Beirdo: and no firefox, so you will be stuck with IE, which is shite
[22:00:00] nanoITX: It's GPL that they mostly worry about
[22:00:00] meushi: nanoITX: BSD still is free software
[22:01:00] nanoITX: meushi: picky.
[22:01:00] meushi: ;)
[22:01:00] nanoITX: the TCP/IP stack in Windoze boxzen is "approved"
[22:01:00] kormoc: and what about MIT software, or one of the bazillion free software licences?
[22:01:00] nanoITX: kormoc: not on the same LAN unless approved
[22:01:00] Beirdo: so dumb
[22:02:00] kormoc: couldn't use certain cisco or linksys routers
[22:02:00] achew22: does anyone have any knowlege about how fstab works?
[22:02:00] kormoc: wow
[22:02:00] laga: achew22: man fstab
[22:02:00] kormoc: achew22, man fstab
[22:02:00] Beirdo: but I'm sure they allow floppies and USB keys :)
[22:02:00] kormoc: of course!
[22:02:00] laga: kormoc: :)
[22:02:00] kormoc: :)
[22:02:00] achew22: fstab isn't a command, its a file
[22:02:00] braniff: kormoc, yeah many linksys routers use linux 2.4 kernel
[22:02:00] laga: achew22: man fstab.
[22:02:00] kormoc: achew22, so? man fstab still works
[22:02:00] meushi: achew22: man 5 fstab
[22:02:00] nanoITX: kormoc: routers, and certain S/W has "exceptions". Routers are not considered computers... you're being overly technical where the suits that make the rules don't understand.
[22:03:00] nanoITX: The issue is inadvertant pollution of proprietary dev code with GPL code.
[22:03:00] nanoITX: They just word policy badly
[22:03:00] meushi: yes, very
[22:03:00] kormoc: nanoITX, sure, but the thing is, you can use GPL software without ever seeing the code, so it's just assinine imho
[22:04:00] Beirdo: glad I don't work there, I'd tell them daily how stupid it is
[22:04:00] nanoITX: kormoc: yes, yes, and if you don't redistribute, you can even change it and link to it with your proprietary code internally.
[22:04:00] nanoITX: But, they want to avoid "accidents", and a blanket prohibition is the easiest way.
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[22:04:00] nanoITX: Better that than some fool incorporating GPL source into a product, and it not being discovered until too late.
[22:04:00] ** kormoc is glad his company embraces open source and encourages it **
[22:05:00] nanoITX: I've worked both sides of that fence.
[22:05:00] ** Beirdo is glad he doesn't work for dumbasses as well **
[22:05:00] nanoITX: some dumbasses pay VERY well. Besides, what I run at home is my business.
[22:05:00] kormoc: speaking of which, I've been meaning to grab that new copy of ajax.js that I've modified for here at home.
[22:06:00] nanoITX: and frankly, I prefer NOT having their stuff on my LAN.
[22:06:00] Beirdo: you can't pay me enough to work for people that make me want to break stuff into pieces daily
[22:06:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:06:00] nanoITX: most jobs are like that.
[22:06:00] meushi: nanoITX: last time I had to deal with such an idiotic policy, Sun paid me a second net link :D
[22:06:00] meushi: just for VPN
[22:07:00] nanoITX: meushi: that's basically what I said.
[22:07:00] achew22: is there a way to remount from fstab without rebooting?
[22:08:00] meushi: achew22: mount -a ?
[22:08:00] dtm: achew22: mount -o remount
[22:08:00] achew22: thankyou
[22:08:00] meushi: yeah, -o remount is nice
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[22:08:00] meushi: wonder if -a -o remount works
[22:09:00] meushi: nanoITX: and I had it in writing that I was only to connect when I was on call
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[22:11:00] bhs128: hello all
[22:11:00] nanoITX: meushi: now that's severe... what about checking email just before leaving for work to get a head start on Mondays, etc.?
[22:12:00] Bjerre: Any advice on a gentoo / mysql brought up with a 'utf8' use flag and now failing with a 1000 char limit during myth-setup ?
[22:12:00] bhs128: need a bit-o-help with compiling mythplugins
[22:12:00] meushi: nanoITX: the idea was not to be flooded by stuff when they were not paying me by it... that was basically ass covering on my part
[22:12:00] nanoITX: it's a little blurry with me since I have fully flexible hours, but I see your point.
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[22:14:00] nanoITX: Anyway, we have an understanding: they don't want the S/W on my home machines "easily" accessible from theirs, and I don't want their's behind my home's firewall.
[22:15:00] nanoITX: It gets a little messy whether I can use IPTABLES on a linux box to set up a DMZ just for them.
[22:15:00] nanoITX: So, they can provide me with a firewall of their choice, but I'm not eager to deal with those headaches either.
[22:16:00] nanoITX: So, I'll probably just stick them ahead of my firewall (not even in it's DMZ), and let their boxes fend for themselves.
[22:17:00] meushi: nanoITX: my current position is far better, no remote access to the net, I can access my email from outside if needed
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[22:19:00] nanoITX: 'course if their boxes get zombied and my ISP bitches, then it'll get interesting: employer doesn't trust my firewall, and ISP does and likes it.
[22:19:00] nanoITX: (actually, "doesn't trust" is too strong... they haven't said that, but I would expect that)
[22:19:00] meushi: thus the good idea of having them to fork over for a second line
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[22:21:00] nano_ITX: router glitch
[22:22:00] meushi: happens
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[22:22:00] nano_ITX: I brushed past the power switch as I went to check the audio connection to my mythtv box
[22:22:00] bhs128: http://pastebin.com/540768
[22:23:00] bhs128: can someone take a look at this and tell me what i did wrong
[22:23:00] nano_ITX: I need to reinstall all the myth stuff on the box for real, but I need to find all the myth and xine dependencies... see for a first try I just put a full FC3 on the box, and that's WAY too much.
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[22:24:00] dtm: kthx
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[22:24:00] nano_ITX: question: do I need a mythbackend if all I want to do is play DVDs, CDs, and rip them locally, and play back the ripped copies?
[22:25:00] nano_ITX: right now I have mythbackend running on the same box.
[22:25:00] nano_ITX: I'm not recording TV yet (that would definately be a backend server function)
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[22:25:00] achew22: Does anyone know how to disable the screensaver when your in mythfrontend?
[22:26:00] dtm: achew22: man xscreensaver
[22:26:00] achew22: thankyou
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[22:27:00] dtm: achew22: to search a man page, you hit '/' and the keyword and 'enter'
[22:27:00] nano_ITX: ivor! My savior
[22:27:00] ivor: heh.
[22:28:00] ivor: unlikely. this weekend Ive upgraded to Xorg7, gcc4.0.2 and x86–64 all at the same time. :D
[22:28:00] nano_ITX: any recent openchrome improvements? I sometimes see rendering lockups, but I haven't been able to trace them to xine, X, or xxmc
[22:28:00] nano_ITX: hmm, I'm running linux 2.6.15, X11R6.9 (same as 7, I'm, told), and your openchrome stuff.
[22:29:00] ivor: nano_ITX: no news, although I think totte mentioned he believed the problems were with the dri/drm code probably worth looking for a bug.
[22:29:00] ivor: i.e. an existing report.
[22:30:00] nano_ITX: I occasionally see dropped frames too, but not consistently. Of course, I'm running a full FC3, with all the damn servers (I did that just to test the box), and I should really reduce it to the bare minimum.
[22:31:00] nano_ITX: And I get DMA timeouts (recoverable) that appear to be related to the disk drive, so I want to swap that.
[22:31:00] nano_ITX: So, I'll start over with as minimal an OS installation as possible.
[22:34:00] Dudev|1727: argh I can't get mythtv to connect to the mysql database
[22:34:00] bhs128: found it
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[22:36:00] meushi: hmm... this is driving me nuts. Since I upgraded to ivtv 0.4.x and myth 0.18.1, I can't record in anything but 480x480... LiveTV works fine tho
[22:36:00] meushi: and there's absolutely no error in the logs
[22:37:00] nano_ITX: ivor: I'll check the buglist thanks
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[22:39:00] nano_ITX: But I obviously have other issues to resolve/simplify first.
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[22:47:00] nano_ITX: off to the pub to watch the Superbowl (I guess watching it at the pub makes it the "StuporBowl")
[22:47:00] meushi: heh, enjoy
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[23:02:00] scopeuk: any one tried knoppmyth in qemu?
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[23:03:00] scopeuk: wow t detects the cpu from withing qemu as a p2 1.8 not bad to say its an amd64 at 2 ghz
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[23:14:00] meushi: woot! fixed!
[23:14:00] meushi: myth kept setting the card back to NTSC
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[23:22:00] meushi: good night
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[23:50:00] drdaz: hey there... anybody here have any experience moving a linux install from one motherboard to another?
[23:51:00] itsmik: hey anyone interested in either a top notch desktop by alienware or a top notch notebook by compaq? price is 500 each and includes sameday shipping, case, wireless router. message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com
[23:52:00] drdaz: I'm currently running an nForce2 system with an athlon XP 2600+... and will be transplanting my harddisks to an ASRock 939Dual SATA2, Sempron based system... can I expect linux to be functional straight off?
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