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| [00:03:00] | NotLarry: | How much necessary? |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | required |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | how else can you download the program listings? |
| [00:05:00] | NotLarry: | Guess I need to just install windows on the box. All I was looking for was a way to feed tv through the capture card to the screen (maybe a little pause live tv in the process)... |
| [00:06:00] | NotLarry: | Right now I don't want the listings or the scheduled recording, etc... Just want to get the tv signal from composit in to VGA out |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | well, you can do that fine |
| [00:06:00] | NotLarry: | Somehow I didn't get that working |
| [00:06:00] | ** NotLarry goes back to the man pages ** | |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | mythtv.org's documentation is slightly better... |
| [00:08:00] | simon_c: | NotLarry: I had loads of problems actually recording anything with no tv data. |
| [00:08:00] | simon_c: | NotLarry: I use mythweb to schedule manual recordings from the avinput on my analogue card |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | simon_c, he just wants live tv |
| [00:11:00] | juski: | livetv? hell even Leadtek's rubbish software can do that ;) |
| [00:12:00] | juski: | found out that episode I thought I'd missed.. I actually hadn't.. it'd already been watched & deleted, so I just missed the repeat (phew) |
| [00:12:00] | kwilson: | Has anyone ever gotten this error? Channel(/dev/video0)::SetColourAttribute(): failed to se t controls, error: No such device |
| [00:13:00] | kwilson: | I get this when starting mythbackend |
| [00:13:00] | simon_c: | kormoc: aHH |
| [00:13:00] | kwilson: | my live tv is not working |
| [00:13:00] | kwilson: | basically capture is not working anymore |
| [00:13:00] | juski: | kwilson.. does your tuner work outside of mythtv? |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | kwilson, undo whatever you did to break it |
| [00:14:00] | kwilson: | no, cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg yields an empty file |
| [00:14:00] | juski: | oops |
| [00:14:00] | kwilson: | i wish it was that simple |
| [00:14:00] | juski: | one day I'll have a temperamental system & I'll wish I'd never been so glib |
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| [00:15:00] | mchou: | kwilson: what are the perms on /dev/video0? |
| [00:15:00] | kwilson: | the device is there |
| [00:16:00] | kwilson: | crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-01–24 23:50 /dev/video0 |
| [00:16:00] | NotLarry: | I aquired a knoppmyth cd |
| [00:16:00] | kwilson: | mythtv is in video group |
| [00:16:00] | kwilson: | and I ran it as root |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | kwilson, gentoo? |
| [00:16:00] | kwilson: | and I ran cat command as root |
| [00:16:00] | kwilson: | ubuntu |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | what does dmesg say about ivtv? |
| [00:17:00] | kwilson: | [4364570.178000] ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0xc0cc5605! |
| [00:17:00] | kwilson: | [4364570.750000] ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40045613! |
| [00:17:00] | kwilson: | [4364570.750000] ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command 0x40045612! |
| [00:17:00] | juski: | so erm.. what happenned in between it working and now? power-cut or something? ungraceful shutdown? upgrades? |
| [00:17:00] | mchou: | kwilson: I ran into this before, but I forgot what I did to fix it. It must have been pretty simple, otherwise I would have remembered |
| [00:17:00] | Ediehow: | hey |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.301000] Linux video capture interface: v1.00 |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.344000] ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ==================== |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.344000] ivtv: version 0.4.2 (tagged release) loading |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.344000] ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.12-10–386 386 gcc-3.4 |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.344000] ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between |
| [00:18:00] | Ediehow: | what do i do in nuvexport to make it dvd quality? |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.344000] ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with |
| [00:18:00] | Ediehow: | xvid or divx? |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.344000] ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist. |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.352000] ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 250 card (cx23416 based) |
| [00:18:00] | mchou: | wtf |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.357000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.357000] ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32) |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.419000] tveeprom: ivtv version |
| [00:18:00] | mchou: | reat the topic |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.419000] tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26132, rev = C599, serial# = 8911041 |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.419000] tveeprom: tuner = TCL 2002N 5H (idx = 99, type = 50) |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.419000] tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x00001000) |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.419000] tveeprom: audio processor = CX25841 (type = 23) |
| [00:18:00] | mchou: | read the topic |
| [00:18:00] | ** juski puts his finger in the dyke.. flood! ** | |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.419000] tveeprom: decoder processor = CX25841 (type = 1c) |
| [00:18:00] | kwilson: | [4294690.419000] ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50] |
| [00:18:00] | Ediehow: | shoot |
| [00:18:00] | Ediehow: | what were those options |
| [00:19:00] | juski: | looks like ivtv loaded without any problems anyhow |
| [00:19:00] | juski: | if indeed the card is a pvr250 |
| [00:20:00] | kwilson: | the card is a pvr 150 |
| [00:20:00] | juski: | wrong ivtv then |
| [00:21:00] | juski: | that's a little bug.. remember reading that somewhere |
| [00:21:00] | juski: | 150 cards being detected as pvr250... |
| [00:21:00] | kwilson: | what should I do? |
| [00:21:00] | juski: | what ver. ivtv is it? |
| [00:22:00] | juski: | 0.4.2.. damn.. that's pretty new |
| [00:22:00] | juski: | try asking in ivtv-dev |
| [00:22:00] | juski: | or on their mailing list |
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| [00:22:00] | juski: | and use a pastebin in future ;) |
| [00:23:00] | kwilson: | 0.4.2 |
| [00:24:00] | kwilson: | this is my first time in irc |
| [00:24:00] | kwilson: | < noob |
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| [00:24:00] | kwilson: | don't know the etiquette |
| [00:24:00] | juski: | maybe I read the comment about wrong autodetection about 0.4.2.. can't remember it was a few days ago now |
| [00:25:00] | juski: | kwilson: FYI.. any more than a couple of lines, use pastebin.ca or pastebin.com or something |
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| [00:28:00] | juski: | ack.. no wonder commflagging isn't so hot here in the UK.. got some adbreaks in a video editor.. there are no blank frames... no still channel logos... any fades to black are all in the show :-/ there's always aspect ratio changes.. but if the programme is 16:9 there won't be any |
| [00:36:00] | mik3: | i've noticed commflagging getting progressively less effective here in the us |
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| [00:37:00] | kormoc: | ooh? it's been really wonderful for myself |
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| [00:38:00] | xris: | cool, Joe finished the WAP theme updates... that was the last thing I was really worried wouldn't make it into .19 |
| [00:40:00] | xris: | mik3: yeah... depends on the show/channel, but it's been great for me |
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| [00:42:00] | mik3: | well, it still works very well on about 50% of the channels I record from – the others, well, it has gotten worse steadily over the last few months. 2 channels that come to mind are cbs and spike. |
| [00:43:00] | mik3: | i'm not complaining – i guess the broadcasters are just getting "smarter"? |
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| [00:54:00] | sphery: | xris, quick question about the mythvideo_handler... |
| [00:54:00] | sphery: | Shouldn't the $dir on line 170 of modules/video/handler.php be $mythvideo_dir |
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| [00:55:00] | sphery: | I got a link to "Resource #38" without the change. |
| [00:55:00] | xris: | sphery: can you ask me in a couple of hours? can't look at the code at work. |
| [00:55:00] | sphery: | np |
| [00:56:00] | sphery: | or could make a ticket if you like |
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| [00:59:00] | xris: | ticket guarantees I'll read it tonight |
| [00:59:00] | xris: | since I have others I need to get fixed |
| [00:59:00] | sphery: | I'll do a ticket/patch. |
| [00:59:00] | sphery: | thx |
| [00:59:00] | xris: | if it's a one-liner, don't bother with a patch.. just tell me where. |
| [00:59:00] | sphery: | one liner... |
| [01:00:00] | sphery: | I'll try to describe it as well as a patch would. ;) |
| [01:00:00] | sphery: | but thanks |
| [01:00:00] | sphery: | You'll probably get far fewer complaints after 0.19 is out with the change. |
| [01:02:00] | sphery: | heh. Gave you the wrong line number above... |
| [01:03:00] | sphery: | Good thing you're looking later instead of now... |
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| [01:12:00] | jd86: | randomly recordings will not record, and i go to play them and it says this recording can not be found, whats up with this |
| [01:15:00] | jd86: | and also, the foward, rewind and other buttons do not work while watching videos and thats quite annoying, how do i fix this? 9also does not work with keyboard) |
| [01:18:00] | k-man_: | what do you mean when watching a vide? |
| [01:18:00] | k-man_: | video? |
| [01:18:00] | k-man_: | like not a recording and not live tv? |
| [01:18:00] | k-man_: | but in mythvideo? |
| [01:19:00] | k-man_: | i believe mythvideo uses mplayer to play videos |
| [01:20:00] | k-man_: | so you need to configure mplayer's keys for rewind and ff |
| [01:20:00] | jd86: | mythvideo |
| [01:20:00] | jd86: | and it is using mplayer |
| [01:20:00] | jd86: | and i used a config file which others have used i guess i should review it |
| [01:21:00] | k-man_: | where did you put it? |
| [01:21:00] | k-man_: | did you try plaing the videos directly with mplayer and testing that your keys work in mplayer? |
| [01:21:00] | jd86: | i have it at both /home/tvuser/.lircrc and /home/tvuser/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:22:00] | jd86: | that'd be a good idea eh? |
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| [01:24:00] | jd86: | i fixed it |
| [01:24:00] | jd86: | sorry for the trubble |
| [01:24:00] | jd86: | the file didn't change the mplayer stuff |
| [01:25:00] | redline--: | anyone know any good irc chans for dvd ripping/encoding or good tutorials? |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | OMFG.. I just don't beleive this. there are now four shows I want to watch at 9pm tomorrow night |
| [01:26:00] | juski: | last week there were three, and I could only record 2... need another tuner in that box |
| [01:26:00] | redline--: | juski: i think you should cut back on some tv |
| [01:26:00] | juski: | and an aerial amp. |
| [01:26:00] | redline--: | hehe 4 shows =p your worse than my wife by 2 shows |
| [01:27:00] | juski: | redline--: it's ok.. there's bog all else on most of the week |
| [01:27:00] | juski: | just the one night it's on, there's loads of it |
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| [01:27:00] | redline--: | lost is on tonight i think |
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| [01:27:00] | juski: | how's the 'record whole mux' work going on? need help? ;-) |
| [01:28:00] | juski: | lost.. bah. I thought '24' was far-fetched |
| [01:28:00] | jd86: | anyone have any idea bout the other question? |
| [01:28:00] | juski: | jd86: only thing I can think of is that your disk is foo'ed |
| [01:29:00] | juski: | recordings don't just vanish |
| [01:29:00] | redline--: | they do though juski |
| [01:29:00] | juski: | oh no they don't |
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| [01:29:00] | redline--: | im wonder about a couple of recordings ive had that are now gone. |
| [01:29:00] | juski: | or rather.. they _shouldn't_ |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | even if they're expired by mythtv, the DB entries for them will be gone too |
| [01:30:00] | jd86: | juski: they don't start |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | so you should _never_ experience 'cannot find' problems |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | ah.. so the DB entry is there but there's no file |
| [01:31:00] | jd86: | juski: its like i've watched it and as it started to record it just creates it and then doesn't go red and record |
| [01:31:00] | redline--: | cannot find problems will happen with the current svn if you had .18 installed prior |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | that's not the same as a recording vanishing though |
| [01:31:00] | jd86: | then i worded the question wrong |
| [01:31:00] | jd86: | it was never there in the first place |
| [01:31:00] | jd86: | it creates entry and then doesn't have a file to go with it |
| [01:31:00] | jd86: | sorry for the mis communication |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | np |
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| [01:31:00] | juski: | never experienced that problem either though |
| [01:31:00] | redline--: | jd i think its a bug in the current svn |
| [01:32:00] | jd86: | redline--: any reason it selects my favorite shows not to record? |
| [01:32:00] | juski: | and all the testing I've done of svn was mostly superficial |
| [01:32:00] | redline--: | no, ive seen it supposedly record but never do it |
| [01:33:00] | jd86: | could it have to do with a misconfiguration? |
| [01:33:00] | redline--: | my wife is recording american idol now ill check after its done to see if its there |
| [01:33:00] | juski: | is this recording during watching live tv? |
| [01:33:00] | redline--: | it could possibly, there are new changes that have been made that arent documented yet |
| [01:33:00] | redline--: | yea Juski |
| [01:34:00] | juski: | that's another thing I've not used much.. live tv |
| [01:34:00] | redline--: | i got the OSD for recording and then select record and watch but it never records |
| [01:34:00] | juski: | can't.. when most of the shows I want to watch are on at the same time, or at awkward times ;) |
| [01:34:00] | jd86: | i never use live tv |
| [01:34:00] | jd86: | but i might ahve to now |
| [01:34:00] | jd86: | because of this problem |
| [01:35:00] | redline--: | ../dev/vg/video 340G 46G 295G 14% /video =) |
| [01:35:00] | juski: | you do realise to expect problems using SVN though... |
| [01:36:00] | redline--: | yes I do |
| [01:36:00] | redline--: | the most recent as of last night fixed several funky issues |
| [01:36:00] | redline--: | and the new README in svn says its .19 now |
| [01:36:00] | redline--: | also ./configure shows "release" as the type |
| [01:37:00] | juski: | I tend to get pissed off if things don't record when I expect them to, so I stuck with 0.16, 0.18.. it's bad enough when the schedules get screwed up |
| [01:37:00] | juski: | feature freeze |
| [01:37:00] | juski: | any changes will be bug fixes until the actual release |
| [01:38:00] | redline--: | I really like myth and its potential, im just getting my wife to like it now, i pulled my media center box and replaced it with a myth frontend |
| [01:38:00] | juski: | how bad was MCE? |
| [01:38:00] | juski: | (or good) ? |
| [01:39:00] | redline--: | mce is nice for regular tv |
| [01:39:00] | redline--: | it was polished |
| [01:39:00] | redline--: | but... |
| [01:39:00] | juski: | I don't think I could live with it only supporting 2 SD tuners though |
| [01:39:00] | redline--: | no commercial flagging |
| [01:39:00] | redline--: | and you can not record digital tv casue MS blocks all digital content as copy protected |
| [01:40:00] | juski: | what?! |
| [01:40:00] | redline--: | yeap |
| [01:40:00] | redline--: | couldnt record hbo or show time |
| [01:40:00] | juski: | HD & SD? |
| [01:40:00] | redline--: | would always freeze up on thise channels |
| [01:40:00] | redline--: | sd |
| [01:40:00] | redline--: | sd digital |
| [01:41:00] | juski: | that's very sucky |
| [01:41:00] | redline--: | then i tried to use vista beta 2 which has the most current MCE code |
| [01:41:00] | juski: | same thing, but worse? |
| [01:41:00] | jd86: | when i get back from vacation i'll do svn update |
| [01:41:00] | redline--: | and when i switched to sd digital i got a blue screen saying it was protected digital content |
| [01:42:00] | juski: | isn't that just cos of the broadcast flag though? |
| [01:42:00] | redline--: | broadcast flags arent even legal yet |
| [01:42:00] | juski: | we don't have that here, and it's not likely we will |
| [01:42:00] | redline--: | that has been delayed until summer of 2006 |
| [01:42:00] | juski: | but M$ are checking for it.. they must be |
| [01:43:00] | juski: | so erm.. can you pause digital TV? |
| [01:43:00] | redline--: | and if.. you already have a non flagged tuner you wont even be affected by it |
| [01:43:00] | blackcamera: | I've looked and searched everywhere, i'm using fc4, with a pvr-150. When i try to watch live tv through myth i get my log filled up with lines like ... 006-01–25 19:28:01.580 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [01:43:00] | blackcamera: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/movies/buffer/ringbuf1.nuv |
| [01:43:00] | redline--: | chmod 777 /movies |
| [01:44:00] | juski: | yup |
| [01:44:00] | redline--: | juski you cant even watch digital tv |
| [01:44:00] | juski: | but I thought that was one of MCE's selling points... have up to 2 SD & one HD tuner.. watch/record the lot |
| [01:45:00] | juski: | I'm shocked... I thought it'd be restrictive but not that bad... |
| [01:45:00] | ** juski hugs his mythtv box gently ** | |
| [01:45:00] | redline--: | sure 2 sd channels 2–99(non digital) and HD (certain stations like fox and cbs abc) |
| [01:46:00] | redline--: | im sure if oyu switched to hd-hbo it would be blocked |
| [01:46:00] | juski: | but you can't get HBO over the air, right? |
| [01:46:00] | redline--: | correct |
| [01:47:00] | redline--: | thtis is the whole reason I am here now is casue of all that crap with MS MCE |
| [01:47:00] | blackcamera: | after chomoding to 777, i restarted the backend and the front end, with the same errors. using ivtv 0.4.2, i can get a picture with mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [01:47:00] | juski: | hell – they should make a plugin thing.. hardware dongle/CAM or something so you're at least entitled to record the encrypted stream & decode it on playback.. or something |
| [01:47:00] | redline--: | i really didnt have time to dedicate to myth witha 14 month old and wife nagging me all the time so iwanted easy with MS |
| [01:48:00] | redline--: | after i saw that i formated the disk and installed gentoo |
| [01:48:00] | juski: | blackcamera: have you set the capture card type in mythtv-setup to be 'mpeg encoder card (PVR250/350)' ? that's what you need for the pVR150, 250, 350 etc |
| [01:48:00] | redline--: | try chmod -r 777 /movie |
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| [01:48:00] | juski: | blackcamera: by default the card type is set to the wrong type for ivtv cards |
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| [01:50:00] | blackcamera: | Thank you juski |
| [01:51:00] | juski: | was that it? |
| [01:51:00] | juski: | if so, you'll need to restart mythbackend to accept the change |
| [01:51:00] | redline--: | juski you use a pvr500? |
| [01:51:00] | juski: | no pvr150 |
| [01:51:00] | juski: | and 2 DVB-T tuners |
| [01:51:00] | redline--: | k |
| [01:51:00] | juski: | got a 3rd dvb tuner waiting in the wings |
| [01:52:00] | redline--: | dvb for overseas? |
| [01:52:00] | juski: | gonna pop that in when I upgrade the 160GB disk to a 300 |
| [01:52:00] | juski: | dvb-t for UK digital TV |
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| [01:52:00] | juski: | no HD yet... infact no OTA HD for several years |
| [01:53:00] | redline--: | wow |
| [01:53:00] | redline--: | man HD is amazing |
| [01:53:00] | juski: | satellite HDTV comes to the UK this year, but you'll only be able to record it with the satellite box |
| [01:53:00] | redline--: | they are calling for hd by me in the end of this year |
| [01:54:00] | juski: | I've seen HD.. it's not worth all the expense right now |
| [01:54:00] | redline--: | 1080P is |
| [01:54:00] | juski: | as for the next DVD format.. that can wait til it's settled down. Don't wanna buy a betamax ;-) |
| [01:55:00] | redline--: | I know what yea mean |
| [01:55:00] | juski: | anyway UK HDTV will be mpeg4. try decoding that on a 3GHz machine, even with xvmc |
| [01:55:00] | redline--: | by then it wont be a problem |
| [01:56:00] | juski: | by that time though, hopefully nvidia will have linux drivers for their 'tru-video' or whatever they call it |
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| [01:56:00] | blackcamera: | juski, yes that fixed it |
| [01:57:00] | juski: | cool... |
| [01:57:00] | juski: | that's the 3rd or 4th person in here with that problem I've helped |
| [01:57:00] | juski: | quite easy to miss if you're keen to get it all going I guess |
| [01:58:00] | redline--: | ive been at myth for about 2–3 months now and i would say i am about 25% profficent |
| [01:58:00] | Cromz: | juski, I have a problem.. I really need a goth theme.. but I dont know where to get one :> |
| [01:59:00] | juski: | Cromz: I'm taking a break from theming for now |
| [01:59:00] | Cromz: | doh! |
| [01:59:00] | Cromz: | ;) |
| [01:59:00] | juski: | just another week or so |
| [01:59:00] | juski: | have to rework my 4:3 theme next |
| [01:59:00] | juski: | then update the lot |
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| [01:59:00] | blackcamera: | juski, the bad thing is, i didn't see anything in any of the docs about it, either that or in my frustration i missed it. |
| [02:00:00] | Cromz: | rework? what? |
| [02:00:00] | juski: | Cromz: should be quite easy to goth my theme up |
| [02:00:00] | Cromz: | hmmm |
| [02:00:00] | juski: | very easy to make it tacky though |
| [02:00:00] | Cromz: | yeah I know. I'm just lazy and dont wanna mess with your hard work :) |
| [02:01:00] | juski: | well.. the easiest way would be to load the .png files into your fave bitmap editor & add to them |
| [02:01:00] | juski: | don't change the layout at all – that's where all the work is |
| [02:01:00] | Cromz: | after I make a backup :> |
| [02:01:00] | juski: | just copy the theme directory to a new one.. cp -r ProjectGrayhem-wide gothic-wide |
| [02:02:00] | juski: | any damn foo can edit bitmaps ;) |
| [02:02:00] | nasa: | Could anyone help me troubleshoot my pvr-500? I am getting static on "tuner 1" , but good video on "tuner 2". Both tuners seemed to work when I tried it in my windows box |
| [02:02:00] | juski: | see my idea of 'gothic' may not be to your taste |
| [02:02:00] | Cromz: | cp -r ProjectGrayhem-wide gothic(thanks to juski)-wide |
| [02:02:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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| [02:03:00] | juski: | bit out of touch with slaughtering virgins & all that stuff |
| [02:03:00] | nasa: | I added it as /dev/video0 & /dev/video1 — with both having the same source. No other inputs were/are given a source. |
| [02:03:00] | juski: | nasa: you tried catting /dev/video1 to an mpeg test file & playing it? |
| [02:04:00] | juski: | first step is always check the hardware/driver before jumping into mythtv-setup |
| [02:05:00] | nasa: | Juski: I tried /dev/video0 and got static... /dev/video1 gave me good output |
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| [02:06:00] | ** nasa is wondering if he needs to check it under windows again.... ** | |
| [02:06:00] | juski: | maybe the 1st tuner isn't detected properly.. can happen |
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| [02:07:00] | juski: | in ivtv I mean |
| [02:07:00] | nasa: | The logs seem to look ok... |
| [02:07:00] | juski: | you'd only get static if the tuner wasn't tuned in to a station |
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| [02:08:00] | md10md: | anybody here? |
| [02:09:00] | nasa: | juski: yeah, just went and double checked... It's on a station (cnn) |
| [02:09:00] | md10md: | when I start up my mythbox it doesn't automatically login and startup the frontend anymore |
| [02:09:00] | md10md: | it just stopped doing it one day |
| [02:09:00] | md10md: | anyone know how to reenable that? |
| [02:09:00] | md10md: | knoppmyth btw |
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| [02:10:00] | juski: | knoppmyth.. no idea |
| [02:11:00] | juski: | have a look on their forums |
| [02:11:00] | md10md: | I've tried looking |
| [02:11:00] | md10md: | well it should probably be the same as any other os |
| [02:11:00] | md10md: | afaik |
| [02:12:00] | juski: | it's knoppix based, so whatever that's based on |
| [02:12:00] | juski: | only ever tried it once, that was enough |
| [02:12:00] | md10md: | eh, much better than FC3 |
| [02:13:00] | md10md: | I'm pretty sure it's based on debian |
| [02:13:00] | juski: | think it is |
| [02:13:00] | juski: | wasn't the distro part I didn't like ;) |
| [02:13:00] | juski: | was the bit where it crashed my backend |
| [02:13:00] | md10md: | haha never had that happen |
| [02:14:00] | juski: | same version number & everything.. backend just stopped |
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| [02:14:00] | juski: | ejected the CD, slung it in the bin |
| [02:14:00] | md10md: | ouch, that's no good |
| [02:14:00] | juski: | not a great 1st impression, no |
| [02:15:00] | md10md: | which version did you use |
| [02:15:00] | juski: | was a long long time ago |
| [02:15:00] | md10md: | i've been using r5a16 but I'm gonna update soon when they put out one with myth .19 |
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| [02:15:00] | md10md: | so any ideas about autologin |
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| [02:16:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [02:16:00] | juski: | google fer it |
| [02:16:00] | nasa: | md10md: what wm is started? |
| [02:16:00] | juski: | and whatever window manager knoppmyth users |
| [02:17:00] | md10md: | well once it boots up it just goes to the console and once I login I have to type "startx" to get it going |
| [02:17:00] | md10md: | mythfrontend then just starts up |
| [02:17:00] | md10md: | it's fluxbox iirc |
| [02:17:00] | sean33: | my mythtv box is pritty new and i was having some issues with the channels and getting myth to change channel so i added the external comand for the tuner imput like .. |
| [02:17:00] | sean33: | " /usr/bin/ivtv-tune -f |
| [02:18:00] | sean33: | and then set the frequency for each channel ... seems a bit slow though |
| [02:20:00] | sean33: | this is probabaly not the best way to get it to change channel is it ? |
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| [02:20:00] | sean33: | ive got a PVR-150 in it btw |
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| [02:21:00] | cosmo_: | other than the telnet socket interface I hear is being integrated into the next myth release, is there any other way to have frontend play a random recording upon startup? |
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| [02:23:00] | juski: | cosmo_: no |
| [02:24:00] | cosmo_: | rats, guess my plans for the ultimate alarm clock will have to wait ;) |
| [02:24:00] | Cromz: | md10md: check your inittab file. I don't know where it is in debian / knoppix. but in fedora it's /etc/inittab |
| [02:25:00] | Cromz: | doh |
| [02:25:00] | Cromz: | didn't see'em leave |
| [02:25:00] | Cromz: | day late and a myth short. |
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| [02:28:00] | ** nasa off to try pvr-500 card in windows again (make double sure it works) ** | |
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| [02:37:00] | prologic: | I've compiled mythtv-0.17 with --enable-lirc, yet when I run the mythtvfrontend it doesn't connect to the lirc daemon |
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| [02:39:00] | juski: | wahhhht? |
| [02:39:00] | juski: | mythtv 0.17? |
| [02:40:00] | prologic: | that's what I said |
| [02:40:00] | kormoc: | prologic, you might want to try a newer version 0.18.1 is out and stable, the svn code is quite nice as well |
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| [02:44:00] | xris: | w00t. one more thing off my checklist for .19 |
| [02:46:00] | scottder: | is there an ETA on .19 or is it 'when it's ready' :) |
| [02:46:00] | prologic: | well guys I get a compile error on 0.18.1 |
| [02:47:00] | prologic: | is there some library that mythtv needs that 0.17 didn't need ? |
| [02:47:00] | ** scottder is gonna start his Myth build this coming weekend ** | |
| [02:47:00] | kormoc: | scottder, "weekish" but take with sole salt |
| [02:47:00] | kormoc: | *some salt |
| [02:47:00] | kormoc: | prologic, you could put the error in a pastebin and show it to us |
| [02:47:00] | prologic: | yeh gotta do it again |
| [02:47:00] | prologic: | it causes a huge cascading compile error :) |
| [02:48:00] | prologic: | ain'y gcc lively ;) |
| [02:51:00] | prologic: | distcc[28578] (dcc_build_somewhere) Warning: failed to distribute, running local |
| [02:51:00] | prologic: | ly instead |
| [02:51:00] | prologic: | dialogbox.cpp:4:21: qlayout.h: No such file or directory |
| [02:51:00] | prologic: | dialogbox.cpp:5:25: qpushbutton.h: No such file or directory |
| [02:51:00] | prologic: | I already have qt3 installed |
| [02:51:00] | prologic: | seems I might need the kdebindings ? |
| [02:51:00] | kormoc: | do you have the qt dev package installed? |
| [02:52:00] | prologic: | this is crux a source-based distro |
| [02:52:00] | kormoc: | well then |
| [02:52:00] | prologic: | qt3 is installed, I'd imagine it's headers are too |
| [02:52:00] | prologic: | I did a search for the file it wants |
| [02:52:00] | prologic: | kdebindings |
| [02:53:00] | kormoc: | /usr/qt/3/include/qlayout.h is the location of the file for myself |
| [02:53:00] | kormoc: | and it came from x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 |
| [02:53:00] | prologic: | k |
| [02:53:00] | kormoc: | what version of qt are you using? |
| [02:53:00] | prologic: | lemme try installing kdebindings first |
| [02:53:00] | prologic: | $ prt-get current qt3 |
| [02:53:00] | prologic: | 3.3.4–1 |
| [02:53:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [02:54:00] | Mayol: | anyone have set ep a mythtvbox that auto encode the recorded material to an other format? |
| [02:54:00] | Mayol: | with an external encoder like ffmpeg? |
| [02:54:00] | Mayol: | up even |
| [02:55:00] | kormoc: | Mayol, look up nuvexport |
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| [02:55:00] | prologic: | $ locate qlayout.h |
| [02:55:00] | prologic: | /usr/include/qt/qlayout.h |
| [02:55:00] | prologic: | hmm |
| [02:55:00] | prologic: | the file it wants is installed :/ |
| [02:55:00] | Mayol: | krmoc: ok |
| [02:55:00] | Mayol: | need it to work with ffmpeg |
| [02:56:00] | kormoc: | Mayol, nuvexport supports ffmpeg |
| [02:56:00] | prologic: | oh wait I think I know why |
| [02:56:00] | prologic: | mythtv is assuming incorrect things about my system |
| [02:56:00] | kormoc: | myth assumes standard things |
| [02:56:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [02:57:00] | Mayol: | haha |
| [02:57:00] | xris: | prologic: echo $QTDIR |
| [02:57:00] | Mayol: | incoreect, whats correct in the linux world =) |
| [02:58:00] | hpAuto: | anyone use mythstreamtv? |
| [02:58:00] | Krazylegz: | hpAuto: I do/did. |
| [02:58:00] | Mayol: | kormoc: thanx, looks like something that i need |
| [02:58:00] | Mayol: | ed |
| [02:59:00] | hpAuto: | it won't install with the latest cvs |
| [02:59:00] | Krazylegz: | hpAuto: Ah, that I don't have experience with. What seems to be the problem? |
| [02:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Also, it's SVN now, not CVS. |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | kormoc: so jarod works at 6:30 on sunday, but is probably free before that |
| [03:00:00] | kormoc: | coolness |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: what time you think you'll be available? |
| [03:00:00] | hpAuto: | I think some of the directory structr is changed |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | 3–4 would probably be a good time |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | kormoc: can you email me your use flags for ffmpeg? |
| [03:00:00] | kormoc: | xris, where abouts should we meet? |
| [03:00:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Still not sure. |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | kormoc: that's a good question. |
| [03:01:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: If you pick a time, that might be best. Keep in mind that I will be in Orting, and not sure if I have transportation or not. |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | jarod is east, we're all south... so I suggest somewhere southcenter-ish or something |
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| [03:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Who is Jarod? |
| [03:02:00] | kormoc: | xris, hrm, so around the mall or you mean more abstract? |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | abstract |
| [03:03:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, really cool linux guy, whore the fedora myth guide |
| [03:03:00] | rjune: | Krazylegz this crazy guy that wrote a howto on building a mythbox with fedora |
| [03:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, THAT Jarod. |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | bahama breeze is a nice place, but kind of loud to chat |
| [03:03:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | but a bar would be,too |
| [03:03:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [03:03:00] | kormoc: | there's a good terriki place near ikea that's cheap and yummy |
| [03:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Duke's Chowder House. |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | hmm, there's a nice chinese place in the great wall mall, too |
| [03:03:00] | Krazylegz: | The Ram/Big Horn Brewery. |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | might be the same place. heh |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: I don't think the Ram has anything I'd eat |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, you're a veggie-monster. |
| [03:04:00] | kormoc: | Too bad Krazylegz can't try the man |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | hahaha |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | I'd go along to watch that |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Eh? |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | and eat some lemon cake |
| [03:05:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, local BBQ place, has some 'really hot' hot sauce. calls it 'the man'. I ate like 8 spoon fulls on my bbq. |
| [03:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Neat. |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | kormoc: also mention that most people can barely handle one |
| [03:06:00] | kormoc: | xris, details, details... |
| [03:07:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/131302_momentwith18.html |
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| [03:07:00] | Ediehow: | xris: r u there sir? |
| [03:07:00] | Klatuu: | Dixie's BBQ |
| [03:07:00] | Ediehow: | Loading MythTV recording info. |
| [03:07:00] | Ediehow: | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'basename' in 'field list' at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 67. |
| [03:07:00] | Ediehow: | 50% |
| [03:07:00] | Klatuu: | and chestnut cafe for teriyaki |
| [03:08:00] | ** Klatuu agrees that they have good teriyaki ** | |
| [03:08:00] | kormoc: | xris, looks like I tied the record, as I took a spoonfull stright before I got 8 on my bbq. |
| [03:08:00] | kormoc: | should have went one more |
| [03:08:00] | Krazylegz: | How many Scovilles is that? |
| [03:08:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, I'd say it's right around 400,000 |
| [03:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [03:09:00] | xris: | kormoc: haha |
| [03:09:00] | xris: | should have set a new one |
| [03:09:00] | kormoc: | yeah, weould have been cool |
| [03:09:00] | kormoc: | next time perhaps |
| [03:09:00] | kormoc: | too bad it's not that tasty. |
| [03:10:00] | xris: | yeah, that's unfortunate |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | kormoc: hmm, that place looks interesting..... |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | I'm always up for good BBQ |
| [03:10:00] | xris: | mchou: unfortunately, I hear it's not "good" |
| [03:10:00] | xris: | just hot |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | xris: oh, too bad |
| [03:10:00] | xris: | the desserts are apparently "good", though |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | but the meat is mediocre |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | yeech..... |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | bad BBQ meat is a serious turn-off for me |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | needs just the right amount of fat for proper texture..... |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | personally, I prefer the right amount of meat... like none. |
| [03:12:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [03:12:00] | ** xris has an awesome thai peanut bbq tofu recipe ** | |
| [03:12:00] | mchou: | I dont like too much meat..... |
| [03:14:00] | kormoc: | mchou, it's not that it's bad, it's just standard fast cooked bbq, and the sauce is a bit... bitter. |
| [03:14:00] | kormoc: | xris, you should share that one :) |
| [03:14:00] | xris: | kormoc: I'll try to remember to bring in the book so you can copy it |
| [03:15:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: You should get on my mom's Netflix friends list. |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | kormoc: ok, building ffmpeg from cvs today with your use flags |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | will see if it can handle ts |
| [03:15:00] | kormoc: | kk, hopefully it shall |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: no netflix |
| [03:15:00] | ** kormoc taps his foot ** | |
| [03:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Doh. Oh well. |
| [03:15:00] | kormoc: | this dude called at 6, saying he'd be here at 6:30, and he's still not here. |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | we have a shared acct at work if I want anything |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | kormoc: lame. could be traffic./ |
| [03:16:00] | kormoc: | yeah, just hopeing he didn't flake out |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | that'd suck |
| [03:16:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: You eat cheese? |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | even the nonvegetarian stuff sometimes |
| [03:17:00] | Krazylegz: | You could eat a Big Horn Salad at The Ram. |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | not a big fan of salads |
| [03:17:00] | Krazylegz: | I should refuse to eat meat too. Just vegetables and desserts. |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | haha |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | you'd have to use your full name to pull that off |
| [03:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | go all brahmin. |
| [03:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Sorry, not that cool. |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | haha |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | that's ok, my one real/practicing brahmin friend in college wasn't that cool, either... he did wear his sacred string, though |
| [03:19:00] | Krazylegz: | My family is Kshatriyas. |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | ahhh |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | that's a good one to be,though |
| [03:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Sure. |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | all kingly and such. or soldierly, anyway |
| [03:22:00] | Mayol: | kormoc: is there anyway to use nuvexport as a service that auto encode all recordings? |
| [03:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, soldierly. |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | Mayol: you can set it up as a user job. |
| [03:23:00] | Mayol: | okej can i use my own ffmpeg settings |
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| [03:24:00] | Mayol: | xris how does that work with all the questions and sort, the documentation of nuv was a bit thin |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | read the nuvexportc file |
| [03:24:00] | Mayol: | want to export to 3gp |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | every option in there is a cli option |
| [03:24:00] | Mayol: | okej |
| [03:24:00] | Mayol: | thanx |
| [03:24:00] | robperkins: | where can i find nuvexportc? |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | robperkins: comes with nuvexport |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | be default in /etc |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | or .nuvexportrc in your homedir |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | s/be/by/ |
| [03:25:00] | robperkins: | ah, ok, that is what i am using now. |
| [03:25:00] | robperkins: | but the version i have is dog slow using ffmpeg |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | robperkins: turn off denoise |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | it's always slow. |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | linux encoders suck for speed |
| [03:25:00] | Mayol: | hmm |
| [03:25:00] | robperkins: | right, that doesnt work for me anyway. |
| [03:25:00] | Mayol: | ffmpeg is good, |
| [03:26:00] | Mayol: | tried to find a good encoder for mpeg4 3gp |
| [03:26:00] | xris: | robperkins: why not? |
| [03:26:00] | Mayol: | that could encode with cbr |
| [03:27:00] | xris: | why would you want cbr? |
| [03:27:00] | Mayol: | take a guess =) |
| [03:27:00] | robperkins: | the fastest way I do it is to use the scripts found http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/ArchiveRecordingsToDvdHowTo |
| [03:27:00] | Mayol: | streaming |
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| [03:27:00] | xris: | what does that have to do with anything? |
| [03:28:00] | iggy: | anybody using some recent svn snapshot that feels like running a little mysql query for me? |
| [03:28:00] | robperkins: | xris: I dont know why denoise doesnt work for me. I just dont use it. |
| [03:28:00] | xris: | robperkins: if you're getting errors, you should upgrade nuvexport |
| [03:28:00] | robperkins: | ----------------------------------------------------------------- |
| [03:28:00] | robperkins: | INFO: [yuvdenoise] mjpeg-tools yuvdenoise version 1.8.0 |
| [03:28:00] | robperkins: | INFO: [yuvdenoise] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| [03:28:00] | robperkins: | yuvdenoise: invalid option — r |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | yeah, upgrade |
| [03:29:00] | Mayol: | well gprs and 3g doesnt like that the bitrate change, specailly if peaks over what on channel can handle and tries to open an new channel |
| [03:29:00] | robperkins: | ah, ok, thanks |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | Mayol: ah, phone streaming |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | or something like that |
| [03:29:00] | Mayol: | =) |
| [03:29:00] | ** xris mumbles something about crazy people and small screens ** | |
| [03:29:00] | Mayol: | hehe |
| [03:30:00] | robperkins: | I spent a lot of time last night getting mythtv to work again after upgrading my kernel. Its nice to upgrade but somehow it corrupted my database and I had to flush it. |
| [03:30:00] | ** Mayol agrees with xris ** | |
| [03:30:00] | Krazylegz: | hpAuto: Any luck? You never posted your error. |
| [03:30:00] | hpAuto: | oh |
| [03:31:00] | kormoc: | booya, speak of the devil |
| [03:31:00] | kormoc: | I'm $60 richer |
| [03:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Spendy spendy! |
| [03:31:00] | Ediehow: | xris: did u get what i pasted? |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | kormoc: awesome |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | Ediehow: huh? |
| [03:32:00] | Ediehow: | Loading MythTV recording info. |
| [03:32:00] | Ediehow: | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'basename' in 'field list' at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/mythtv/recordings.pm line 67. |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | kormoc: ok, much weirdness.. SOMETHING I changed in my ffmpeg spec makes it work now. |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | or something was fixed in cvs |
| [03:32:00] | kormoc: | odd, well, glad that it works |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | well, now to track down the issue and submit a bug report to freshrpms |
| [03:33:00] | hpAuto: | error is, Checking MythWeb Compatablity: cat: /var/www/html/mythweb/themes/Default/theme.php: No such file or directory |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | hpAuto: ? what are you trying to do? |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | Ediehow: upgrade nuvexport... |
| [03:34:00] | hpAuto: | installing mythstreamtv |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | hpAuto: against svn? |
| [03:34:00] | kwilson: | anybody know anything about ivtv bugs using pvr-150? |
| [03:34:00] | hpAuto: | eys |
| [03:34:00] | hpAuto: | yes |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | there's a patch out there somewhere (link posted to the mailing list today) to make it work with svn |
| [03:35:00] | kwilson: | first, it detected it as a pvr-250 |
| [03:35:00] | Ediehow: | xris: i have .2? |
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| [03:35:00] | xris: | Ediehow: and what svn version? |
| [03:36:00] | xris: | if all you have is the .2 release, it's completely broken |
| [03:36:00] | kwilson: | I read on a forum that someone has to power down there computer for about 30 seconds and then turn it back on |
| [03:36:00] | Ediehow: | xris: so i can get latest from ure site? |
| [03:36:00] | kwilson: | so I did it and it works (very odd behaviour if you ask me) |
| [03:37:00] | kwilson: | but then it locks up after aobut 1 minute of live tv |
| [03:37:00] | Ediehow: | http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport-latest.tar.bz2 |
| [03:37:00] | Ediehow: | ? |
| [03:37:00] | kwilson: | the backend spits out 'joined null string in WriteStringList' |
| [03:37:00] | iggy: | select * from tvchain; |
| [03:38:00] | Ediehow: | xris: is that one ok? |
| [03:38:00] | xris: | Ediehow: yes |
| [03:38:00] | xris: | my package script creates that symlink whenever I publish a new version |
| [03:38:00] | xris: | otherwire files/nuvexport/ directory has a dated version in it |
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| [03:42:00] | prologic: | Why does tht mythtv docs say to use irxevent instead of talking directly to lirc ? |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | because they're outdated |
| [03:43:00] | prologic: | any plan to put them back in ? |
| [03:43:00] | prologic: | jsut seems odd using irxevent |
| [03:43:00] | xris: | "back"? |
| [03:44:00] | prologic: | *shrugs* |
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| [03:47:00] | hpAuto: | hm, I got the mythstreamtv updated version, installed fine |
| [03:47:00] | hpAuto: | but the link to stream shows isn't there |
| [03:47:00] | kormoc: | prologic, he means, current myth does talk with lircd I beleive |
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| [03:50:00] | xris: | kormoc: seems like maybe it was just a broken cvs checkout |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | new checkout with same old spec from freshrpms works now |
| [03:51:00] | kormoc: | welp, that's good that it's all good |
| [03:52:00] | scottder: | Ooooh Mythflix looks pretty cool |
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| [03:56:00] | ** iggy kicks Cardoe in the nuts ** | |
| [03:58:00] | xris: | kormoc: yeah.. will see how it handles things now |
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| [04:01:00] | xris: | kormoc: it can read the .ts file just fine, but freaks out when trying to convert it to xvid |
| [04:01:00] | kormoc: | hrm, what's your command line? |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | ./nuvexport --ffmpeg --mode ipod --title 9_5 --nodenoise --nomultipass --filename 'hdsample' |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | :) |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | it runs through mythtranscode fifo |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | grab new nuvexport... ffmpeg's version string changed, or something. |
| [04:03:00] | kormoc: | kk |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | kormoc: http://pastebin.ca/38627 |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | btw, I had no trouble last night using transcode on a 720p recording. this only seems to happen on 1080i stuff |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | it's f'd up. |
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| [04:05:00] | xris: | anyway, time to go help the wife cook dinner.. afk |
| [04:05:00] | cosmo_: | mythdinnermaker.....a new plugin idea! |
| [04:05:00] | cosmo_: | no, better, mythtv_dinner |
| [04:06:00] | rjune: | booo |
| [04:06:00] | cosmo_: | AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! |
| [04:07:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
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| [04:17:00] | a1fa: | hey.. a bug in svn version.. it records forever after the show is done |
| [04:17:00] | a1fa: | until you run out of space |
| [04:18:00] | kormoc: | uhh? |
| [04:18:00] | kormoc: | I'm not experencing that |
| [04:18:00] | a1fa: | it recorded for 15h :P |
| [04:18:00] | a1fa: | straight :P |
| [04:20:00] | a1fa: | i am going to reboot after this svn update |
| [04:22:00] | a1fa: | it takes 10min to compile mythtv |
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| [04:26:00] | a1fa: | kormoc |
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| [04:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | a1fa: that sounds like this bug: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/6896 |
| [04:35:00] | dtm: | do you guys have any experience with commercial detectoin working, perhaps specifically on us cable? |
| [04:36:00] | a1fa: | thats old |
| [04:36:00] | dtm: | mine doesn't work at all. i've got it set to screen blanking, and with or without strict checking. |
| [04:36:00] | a1fa: | it works for me |
| [04:36:00] | a1fa: | you need to enable commercial skipping on playback |
| [04:36:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | a1fa: the ticket? it was just created. |
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| [04:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | dtm, use the ALL method, it's better. |
| [04:37:00] | a1fa: | are u sure? |
| [04:37:00] | a1fa: | Timestamp: 07/22/05 01:16:25 (6 months ago) |
| [04:37:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: i did that, to no avail as well |
| [04:37:00] | a1fa: | 996 |
| [04:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | sorry, vnc didn't copy the cut buffer. :( http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1120 |
| [04:38:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | dtm, and what do you expect it to do? |
| [04:38:00] | hpAuto: | non of the preview pictures load on my mythweb eather |
| [04:38:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you have to tell it to skip unless you turn on auto-skip. and it doesn't remove the commercials, it just lets you skip them. |
| [04:39:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [04:39:00] | a1fa: | thats the bug |
| [04:39:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [04:39:00] | a1fa: | i let it record a show |
| [04:39:00] | a1fa: | but it kept recording |
| [04:39:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: Hmmmmmmm........ Well... I expect commercial skipping to probably skip the commercials. |
| [04:40:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: oh what now? it doesn't edit them out? |
| [04:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | no, you have to copy the commercial skip list to the cutlist and run transcode or nuvexport to actually cut them out of the video. |
| [04:40:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: by what means do i skip them? does that only work for mythtv's inline playback? |
| [04:41:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the skip list is just for skipping, it doesn't modify the file, it just allows you to skip the commercials during playback (within Myth) |
| [04:41:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: there's no way to get it to edit them out, is there? or to create an EDL for mencoder? |
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| [04:41:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | normally 'Z' skips forward and 'Q' skips backwards inside mythfrontend unless you redefined those keys. |
| [04:41:00] | dtm: | k |
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| [04:42:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I just described how to cut them out. use mythtranscode or nuvexport is better if you want to play them in mplayer |
| [04:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | no way to create an EDL for mencoder. are you runing SVN or 0.18.x? |
| [04:45:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ?? |
| [04:46:00] | Chutt: | figured out the togglerecord bug |
| [04:46:00] | Chutt: | don't know how daniel would want to fix it, though, so, i'll let him do it |
| [04:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) |
| [04:47:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: i have 0.18.x |
| [04:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | dtm, well, with 0.19, you'll be able to use "mythcommflag --gencutlist" to copy the commercial skip list to the cutlist, then "mythcommflag --getcutlist" to display the cutlist, you can capture the cutlist and create a EDL file if you want. |
| [04:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I should add a --getskiplist so you can bypass the first step and just get the skip list directly. :) |
| [04:49:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: <3 |
| [04:52:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: why does it say that "strict commercial detection" should be disabled for more accurate detection? |
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| [04:54:00] | kormoc: | dtm, less false postives, more false negatives |
| [04:54:00] | scottder: | anyone using FC4 for their MythTV? |
| [04:55:00] | Nothingman: | hi, all |
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| [04:55:00] | Nothingman: | for some reason zap2it isn't giving me my schedule suddenly |
| [04:55:00] | a1fa: | Nothingman: did you do the survey? |
| [04:56:00] | a1fa: | maybe your subscription ended |
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| [04:56:00] | Nothingman: | a1fa: never contacted about a survey |
| [04:56:00] | Nothingman: | 'course, someone hijacked my e-mail account |
| [04:56:00] | dtm: | Nothingman: try logging into your zap2it.com account |
| [04:56:00] | Nothingman: | but I figured logging onto zap2it would give me a clue to find the survey |
| [04:56:00] | dtm: | oh. |
| [04:56:00] | Nothingman: | dtm: have, but where would I click to find the survey? |
| [04:57:00] | dtm: | Nothingman: i dunno. i just signed up the other day. :) |
| [04:57:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | strict requires blank to be more uniform and dark, non-strict requires just blank (ie, all one color, but with wider leeway than strict). also, strict requires commercial lengths to be closer to 30sec, 60sec, etc. exactly but non-strict gives a little leeway in the lengths. |
| [04:57:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: <voice type="spock"> Fascinating, captain. </voice> |
| [05:00:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the length stuff only applies to blank-frame detection mode. the "blank" vs "black"-frame detection applies anytime you use blank-frame (ALL, blank-frame, blank-frame plus scene-change modes) |
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| [05:08:00] | ord-afk: | i've been looking, but can't find out specifically: i would have to have two tuner cards if i'd like to watch one show/live tv and record another, correct? |
| [05:11:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes |
| [05:11:00] | ord-afk: | thank you |
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| [05:19:00] | a1fa: | took me 45min to compile mythtv on 1.3ghz w/ 256mb of ram |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa: | i seriously need to run vmware |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | and make me .debs on my 64bit ahtlon with 2gb of ram |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:21:00] | rjune: | no kidding |
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| [05:22:00] | nanoITX: | Anyone have a 720p or 1080i xorg.conf (for monitor, not TV... yet) I can try to get around the stutter in HD playback on a CN400? (/me is lazy tonight to roll his own). |
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| [05:25:00] | ** nanoITX googles for one... ** | |
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| [05:28:00] | a1fa: | nanoITX: u lazy ass |
| [05:28:00] | a1fa: | lookup google |
| [05:28:00] | nanoITX: | yup. |
| [05:28:00] | nanoITX: | nebermind I found a couple modelines I can try, |
| [05:29:00] | nanoITX: | I had 720p and 1080ii playback on the CN400 with H/W HD MPEG2 decoding, but it was still jerky. |
| [05:29:00] | nanoITX: | It was suggested to match screen refresh to playback V rate... which makes sense. |
| [05:33:00] | nanoITX: | O.K. time to try something... back later. |
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| [06:03:00] | wylie: | Captain_Murdoch: are you still around? I was just wondering what commercial skip method and strict combination you find works best for you? |
| [06:06:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I use ALL, but then I wrote 95+% of the code, so I'm partial. :) if it starts getting bad, I start tweaking. |
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| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | mchou, my internet yesterday got f up |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:18:00] | mchou: | defaultro: when you bought the Fusion, it came with no other accessories other than the card, correct? |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | i have to upgrade or downgrade my wireless phone |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | it's the lite version |
| [06:18:00] | mchou: | like it didnt have a remote control or anything...... |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | just cd and audio wire |
| [06:18:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [06:19:00] | defaultro: | the gold comes with the remote |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | defaultro: ok. I think I'm gonna buy the snapstream bundle |
| [06:19:00] | defaultro: | what is it |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | $107 shipped with mce remote |
| [06:19:00] | defaultro: | is it still dvico? |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
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| [06:20:00] | defaultro: | fusion? |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | ite |
| [06:20:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | lite* |
| [06:20:00] | defaultro: | i didn't need the remote since i made a homebrew remote |
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| [06:20:00] | mchou: | comes with an antenna too :) |
| [06:20:00] | defaultro: | i just need the remote functionality in myth only |
| [06:20:00] | defaultro: | oh cool |
| [06:21:00] | defaultro: | do you watch 24? |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | yup. just saw this wks episode |
| [06:21:00] | defaultro: | cool huh ;) |
| [06:21:00] | nanoITX: | So, I have jerky HD playback on a monitor with 720p and 1080i material using HW MPEG2 decoding on a CN400 via openchrome. Any suggestions? |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | 24 is getting old for me though. Where is House MD??? |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | i didn't have any recording |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | ah, american idol 2 hrs |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | nano, weak cpu prolly |
| [06:22:00] | nanoITX: | I can't get the monitor vsync rate to match the material (too slow at 720 25fps) |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | i don't have any issues with HD :) |
| [06:22:00] | nanoITX: | defaultro: got a modeline I could look at? |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | hmmm |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | depends on your card too |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | am running at 1920x1080 |
| [06:23:00] | nanoITX: | CN400, on an LCD right now. |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | couldn't remember where i had it |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | mine is crt |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | rear projection crt |
| [06:23:00] | mchou: | nanoITX: lol, on an LCD, no wonder |
| [06:23:00] | mchou: | get a real tube man :) |
| [06:23:00] | nanoITX: | Well the CN400 will do 1920x1080 but the LCD monitor won't do better than 1280x1024 |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | mchou, btw, on July/August, I'm going to buy a CRT projector :D |
| [06:24:00] | mchou: | defaultro: nice, which one? |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | either marquee 8500 or barco 808 |
| [06:24:00] | nanoITX: | mchou: I have one, but don't quite want to burn the Sony if I fuck up. |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | they said, it can take 720p 960p and 1080i |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | even 1080p but still on the works |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | am building a dedicated ht in the basement |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | defaultro: hmm, nice. How $ do those babies run these days? |
| [06:25:00] | nanoITX: | mchou: I can understand pixel latency on the LCD, but the driver shouldn't be dropping frames, no? |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | some are $1400-$2000, depending on the bulb |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | some are $1000 |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | nanoITX: frame drops are not an LCD problem :) |
| [06:25:00] | nanoITX: | right. |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | i also see some guys at avsforum that they got theirs for $700 |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | defaultro: really?? did they say where? |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | avsforum thread, crt channel |
| [06:26:00] | nanoITX: | so why am I dropping frames if the CPU is not saturated? |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | you can also search at videogon.com |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | looks like am gonna buy at curt palmes |
| [06:26:00] | nanoITX: | the CN400 is doing H/W decoding and I'm pegged at around 30% CPU for 1080i/ |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | www.curtpalme.com |
| [06:26:00] | mchou: | nanoITX: cause of memory bandwidth? |
| [06:26:00] | nanoITX: | hmm. good point. |
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| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | this guy is a long time user in crt channel/avsforum |
| [06:27:00] | nanoITX: | but others have no problem. I wonder if AGPDMA is fscked or my video arpeture is wrong. |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | i think, the weight of the pj i'm going to buy is around 110–120 lbs |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | LOL |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | defaultro: I can no longer keep up w/ this crap :) |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | it's the old technology |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | that's true |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | crt would be the last for me |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | prolly for another 4 yrs |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | LOL |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | as long as it delivers pq |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | i'm fine with that |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | until you find out there is no HDMI :) |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | more DRM bullshit |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | hdmi is not a big deal to me |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | i'll be using RGBHV |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | i will havta convert hdvi back to rgbhv |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | lol |
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| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | have you see a screenshot of a crt pj in action? |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | nope, not really |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | someone from the CRT forum invited me to his house |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | damn, the pj was huge |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | yeah, I 've seen some |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | but i couldnt believe that that old technology can deliver better than lcd/dlps |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | my neighbor has a 12 ft TV :) |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | let me grab one screenshot |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | this is a screenshot from G90 sony |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | this model is expensive |
| [06:30:00] | mchou: | spans the wall of his living room |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | it can deliver 1080p without a pain |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | $10k |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | i wish i had that money |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | bah. I dont think I'd spend $10K on TV. Dont get enough use :) |
| [06:31:00] | defaultro: | like what i said, the guy invited me and discovery hd was phenomenal |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | yeah. no kidding :) |
| [06:31:00] | defaultro: | his is NEC somehting |
| [06:31:00] | wylie: | here's a first: |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | I go over to my neighbors to watch :) |
| [06:31:00] | wylie: | [17564396.952000] ivtv0: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data. |
| [06:31:00] | wylie: | [17564396.952000] ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough. |
| [06:32:00] | wylie: | Captain_Murdoch: [long pause since you responded] ya, I knew you wrote the code. we've talked before (I think I was "wswanson") |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | mchou, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php . . . #post6767780 |
| [06:32:00] | wylie: | that's why I wanted to see what you were partial to. ;) |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | get rid of the username password prompt |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | some wannabee didnt know how to post picture |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | the lower picture is the Sony G90 |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | by Clarence |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | defaultro: my neighbor's bigger :) |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | yep, but my point is, the quality of this old technology CRT is still superior to the newest technology |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | yeah, no doubt |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | LCD/DLP suffers from SDEs and rainbows |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | if your neighbor's is bigger, look at this, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=48463 |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | LOL |
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| [06:36:00] | defaultro: | did you see curt palme's website |
| [06:36:00] | defaultro: | we actually sent email back and forth and he gave me some points of what i should buy |
| [06:37:00] | mchou: | defaultro: yeah, I checked it out |
| [06:38:00] | nanoITX: | Hmm, others are getting 1080i playback on the CN400 without problem. Though I see the badnwidth issue. |
| [06:38:00] | defaultro: | oh, i forgot, i will also buy a single transducer for my second row in riser |
| [06:38:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:38:00] | defaultro: | don't know if it would be enough |
| [06:39:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you got too many toys :) |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | not yet |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | slowly |
| [06:40:00] | defaultro: | on the list :D |
| [06:40:00] | defaultro: | i will build my own ht |
| [06:40:00] | defaultro: | so I can save a lot of money |
| [06:40:00] | mchou: | bah. Do it right. Build your own IMAX theatre :) |
| [06:41:00] | mchou: | that's the ultimate :) |
| [06:41:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [06:42:00] | defaultro: | there this guy in avsforum and his nick is Sandmax. His theater is cool. He's still working on it |
| [06:42:00] | defaultro: | Sandman |
| [06:42:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [06:44:00] | defaultro: | mchou, i'm hitting the hay now, I'll catch you tomorrow |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | alright, later |
| [06:45:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | so when is "Bubble" coming out |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | the movie from Steven Soderberg |
| [06:46:00] | dtm: | i could play all my .nuv files via xine because they're just mpeg2/mp3 streams from my hardware codec. but now some of them which i could play before, suddenly become unplayable in xine as if it's an unknown codec, but they're playable in vlc. any idea why? how do they get modified later? |
| [06:46:00] | dtm: | "there is no demuxer plugin available" |
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| [06:57:00] | Mayol: | if i want to add a custom part in nuvexport with my switches for ffmpeg how do i do that? |
| [06:57:00] | Mayol: | found the config file but cant really figure out the markup |
| [06:59:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: thank you for commercial detection. |
| [07:02:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that was one of the first things I started coding on Myth when I started using it over 3 years ago. :) figured if I could see thinkgs like blank frames between commercials then I could detect them and use them to skip. |
| [07:04:00] | nanoITX: | *blush* |
| [07:05:00] | nanoITX: | It, er, *helps* if one remembers -V xxmc |
| [07:05:00] | nanoITX: | LOL |
| [07:05:00] | nanoITX: | got 30% idle playing back 1080i now. Whee! |
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| [07:08:00] | kormoc: | wow, this is nice |
| [07:08:00] | kormoc: | my 5200 can decode 1080i as well as 720p and sdtv at the same time |
| [07:13:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: well done. |
| [07:13:00] | nanoITX: | key, kormoc |
| [07:13:00] | nanoITX: | er, hey. |
| [07:13:00] | kormoc: | mornin |
| [07:13:00] | nanoITX: | evenin' |
| [07:13:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: ok i'm trying to understand how to use mythcommflag. but i don't. :) what am i supposed to be able to 'get' or do with what i get? |
| [07:14:00] | dtm: | Captain_Murdoch: is that for internal use only until 0.19 when i can create EDL? |
| [07:14:00] | nanoITX: | I think I got stable 1080i playback. |
| [07:14:00] | nanoITX: | finally! |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [07:14:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: well done. |
| [07:14:00] | nanoITX: | stupid me... half the time I forgot -V xxmc |
| [07:15:00] | ** nanoITX is a stubbord S.o.B. ** | |
| [07:15:00] | nanoITX: | er, stubborn |
| [07:15:00] | dtm: | :/ |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [07:15:00] | nanoITX: | 30% idle too, on the 1.0 GHz Via nano |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | nice |
| [07:16:00] | nanoITX: | so, that's 70% busy... Hmm, a fanless 800 Mhz *might* be able to pull that off: 1-(1–0.3)/0.8=12.5% idle, in theory. |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | it likely doesn't scale that perfectly |
| [07:17:00] | nanoITX: | still loses frames when overlaying OSD, but that's understandable, and Ivor knows about it. |
| [07:18:00] | nanoITX: | yeah, 12% was too close for comfort — that's why I got the 1.0 GHz nano. Still, I wanted a *fanless* system, and this thing puts out about 14 DbA with it's fan. |
| [07:18:00] | nanoITX: | I'm downloading a few more sample clips at 1080i so I can stress it a bit. |
| [07:19:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: i'd like to see what a fanless G4 can do. |
| [07:19:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: like an old Mac Cube? |
| [07:20:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: yeah or a mac mini or a powerbook |
| [07:21:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: I've read that tha mac mini has trouble with HD playback. I had considered it at one point. |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | mac minis are not fanless |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | and powerbooks are not fanless as well |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, it's funny, a external firewire hd is faster then the internal one in the mini :) |
| [07:21:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: oic |
| [07:21:00] | dtm: | kormoc: the fans are optional. |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | dtm, not especially, from what I've seen, they just spin slowly most of the time and spin up when they get hot |
| [07:23:00] | dtm: | kormoc: ok well you wouldn't be able to hear it anyway |
| [07:23:00] | nanoITX: | 14 DbA at 1 meter is pretty good though: about as loud as a whisper. Though, when I see people with 3.5 GHz Intel "burnlikethesun-eons" trying to render 1080i in software, I chucle at my little CN400 and 1 Ghz nano |
| [07:23:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: wheee |
| [07:23:00] | kormoc: | dtm, you can when they spin up |
| [07:23:00] | ** nanoITX still wants fanless. ** | |
| [07:23:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [07:24:00] | nanoITX: | I had disconnected the fan at one point to see how hot the proc got running full speed, but chickened out at 70C. |
| [07:24:00] | Chutt: | my xp-m 2200+ machine (current production mythbox) is quieter than my old via m10000 (old production mythbox) |
| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, my 2.4 ghz p4 can do 1080i in software without too much stress, you only need 2 ghz to software 1080i |
| [07:24:00] | dtm: | why does xine suddenly say it doesn't have a demuxer for some of my .nuv files which are just mpeg2/mp3 from my hardware codec, and which it could play earlier today? |
| [07:24:00] | Chutt: | same case for both machines. |
| [07:24:00] | mchou: | Chutt: really? |
| [07:24:00] | Chutt: | no, i'm lying |
| [07:25:00] | Chutt: | of course it is :p |
| [07:25:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: I was pulling a number out of my A**. Your 2.4 ghz P4 draws how many megawatts? |
| [07:25:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, cpu fan? or perhaps northbridge ? |
| [07:25:00] | Chutt: | they both only had a cpu fan |
| [07:25:00] | nanoITX: | Stil, I *almost* considered a hushpc with a heatpipe instead |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | Chutt: kind of surprised xp-m would be cooler/quieter than m10000 |
| [07:25:00] | Chutt: | and the xp-m is something like 6x faster than the m10000 |
| [07:25:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, around 80 watts or so iirc |
| [07:25:00] | nanoITX: | A heatpipe would be *perfect* for this box. |
| [07:26:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: yeah, just the CPU. |
| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | mchou, it's a laptop cpu in a desktop case with a 80mm fan on it :p |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, well, my little myth shuttle box is only drawing 250 watts total |
| [07:26:00] | nanoITX: | It does suck that this needs a fan at all. |
| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | oh, and i undervolted it a bit |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | Chutt: heh, that make a tad more sense :) |
| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | i bought a new tiny case for the m10000, but it sounds like an airplane |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | and i never felt like buying a 3rd replacement cpu fan for the m10000 |
| [07:27:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: well *my* little myth box in a Silverstone LC08 case draws less than 60 watts total and can still render 1080i in real time. |
| [07:27:00] | ** nanoITX questions the wisdom of this "mine is smaller than yours" contest. ** | |
| [07:27:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, 1080i while commflagging and transcoding? |
| [07:27:00] | nanoITX: | I'm just happy it's working. |
| [07:28:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: naw, just rendering and deinterlacing. |
| [07:28:00] | nanoITX: | I let the back end do the heavy stuff. |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | nanoITX: you've never seen the ipod flea, have you? |
| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I wanted a box that could do it all |
| [07:28:00] | Chutt: | i figure i'll upgrade my production box to a nf4 w/ a mobile xp64 at some point |
| [07:28:00] | nanoITX: | mchou: no. |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | nanoITX: goggle for it. |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | google* |
| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, I'm more just saying that the intel platform isn't /that/ bad for myth |
| [07:28:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [07:28:00] | Chutt: | shouldn't be any warmer, and will be better at doing stuff like goom at hd resolutions |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | nanoITX: it's damn funny :) |
| [07:29:00] | wylie: | Chutt: what's goom? |
| [07:29:00] | Chutt: | one of the visualizations in mythmusic. |
| [07:30:00] | nanoITX: | does the girl come with it? |
| [07:30:00] | dtm: | i have manually deleted some of my .nuv files. how do i manually reconcile this with my database? i can't delete it in mythfrontend. |
| [07:31:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: yeah, intel is O.K. |
| [07:32:00] | nanoITX: | I was just scared of S/W MPEG2 decoding. |
| [07:32:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, you can get hardware mpeg2 decoding with any nvidia card :) |
| [07:32:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: with open source drivers? |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | kormoc: not any |
| [07:33:00] | kormoc: | mchou, okay, any newer one, mx4000+ I beleive? |
| [07:33:00] | dtm: | i want to do myth on nintendo64 plz |
| [07:33:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, not yet, I don't beleive |
| [07:33:00] | dtm: | i have the 8MB ram upgrade. somebody get on that |
| [07:33:00] | nanoITX: | 'course the CN400 is bleeding edge under Linux. (Thanks, Ivor!) |
| [07:33:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, but nvidia's own drive is quite nice. |
| [07:33:00] | nanoITX: | I wanted a completely free software solution.... just because. |
| [07:33:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [07:34:00] | Chutt: | because a decompiled binary translated into C is a "completely" free software solution :p |
| [07:34:00] | Chutt: | (how the open source via driver started) |
| [07:34:00] | mchou: | reverse engineering is OK though :) |
| [07:34:00] | nanoITX: | Chutt: openchrome is clean code, and Via opened the base on which it is based, but H/W MPEG2 was ripped out of unichrome. |
| [07:34:00] | Chutt: | that's not proper reverse engineering. |
| [07:35:00] | Chutt: | nanoITX, it didn't start as clean code. |
| [07:35:00] | nanoITX: | how it got free is largely irrelevant to me as long as there is no issue now. |
| [07:35:00] | nanoITX: | Besides, reverse enginerring for reasons of interoperability is *still* legal in the U.S. |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | haha, tell that to MSFT :) |
| [07:36:00] | Chutt: | but that wasn't reverse engineering :p |
| [07:36:00] | dtm: | whether there is no issue now is irrelevant to the potential for it to become an issue in the future |
| [07:36:00] | nanoITX: | now, the issue with libdvdcss is another matter... |
| [07:36:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: er, via freed the root of the fork, so it's free now and forever. |
| [07:36:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: s w e e t |
| [07:37:00] | nanoITX: | at least, AFAIK. |
| [07:37:00] | nanoITX: | but, the "official" unichrome drivers don't have Ivor's XvMC VLD MPEG2 decoding support |
| [07:37:00] | nanoITX: | hence, openchrome. |
| [07:37:00] | dtm: | i'm sure lots of embedded manufacturers have performed illegal use of gpl code anyway so maybe we'll have a standoff ;) |
| [07:38:00] | dtm: | mutually assured destruction |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | dtm, proving it is the problem |
| [07:38:00] | dtm: | ;] |
| [07:38:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: when I worked at Teradyne, we developed a product with GPL code. It was fun inviting RMS to explain the do's and don'ts. |
| [07:39:00] | dtm: | haaa. nanoITX did you read the RMS hosting howto first |
| [07:39:00] | nanoITX: | What sucked was that we only distributed to about 12 customers (at several $million each) world wide who had no incentive to redistribute. |
| [07:39:00] | dtm: | did you obey RMS compatible protocol |
| [07:39:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: I *wrote* the RMS hosting howto. |
| [07:39:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: for real? |
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| [07:39:00] | nanoITX: | If you're referring to the article on /. around 2001, yes. |
| [07:39:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: you have the cheese? |
| [07:40:00] | dtm: | YOU ARE THE KEEPER OF THE CHEESE? |
| [07:40:00] | dtm: | yeah that's what i'm referring to lol |
| [07:40:00] | nanoITX: | I think we are talking about different things. |
| [07:40:00] | dtm: | what else could we possibly be talking about, another RMS? :) |
| [07:41:00] | nanoITX: | It went well: he was there to explain, we were there to ask, but the one ground rule I laid was *NO* debate about the merits or disadvantages of the GPL — we used GPL code, we honoured the license, and that was it. |
| [07:41:00] | dtm: | what would make you think that |
| [07:41:00] | dtm: | yeah that's wise |
| [07:41:00] | nanoITX: | I think you are refering to a different howto on hosting RMS |
| [07:41:00] | nanoITX: | ... make sure to have a supply of his favorite teas... and internet access... |
| [07:42:00] | dtm: | yeah. |
| [07:42:00] | dtm: | i've only heard of one howto |
| [07:42:00] | nanoITX: | I had made some changes to syslinux so it could do different installs depending on whether the device was headless, or whether the *yes, wipe out the disk* serial dongle was inserted. |
| [07:43:00] | kormoc: | My lug had Jon "Maddog" Hall for a talk, he was quite cool |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: didn't you have an issue with cheese? |
| [07:43:00] | nanoITX: | Well, the one on /. was written by me... lemme find the link. |
| [07:43:00] | kormoc: | never could get RMS to stop by |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: you didn't have the proper cheeses or something? |
| [07:43:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: don't remember. |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | k |
| [07:43:00] | nanoITX: | Proper *teas* |
| [07:43:00] | dtm: | istr some stinky cheeses. |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | welp, time for sleep |
| [07:44:00] | ** kormoc yawns ** | |
| [07:44:00] | dtm: | he DOES so love the stinkiness. |
| [07:44:00] | dtm: | kormoc: l8r |
| [07:44:00] | nanoITX: | He had to drink vending machine swill because I completely forgot his fondness for good tea. |
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| [07:44:00] | dtm: | oic |
| [07:44:00] | dtm: | he coulda brought some ;) |
| [07:45:00] | nanoITX: | http://www.hollan.org/rmsvisit.html |
| [07:45:00] | dtm: | oh my. |
| [07:46:00] | nanoITX: | http://slashdot.org/features/00/08/02/2111236.shtml is the original posting |
| [07:48:00] | nanoITX: | The sad thing is that we never got to really contribute back to the community... just give source to those that paid million$ for binaries. |
| [07:49:00] | nanoITX: | And, having paid those million$, they weren't about to redistribute. |
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| [07:53:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: heh! :/ |
| [07:53:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: I wanted to describe the person, more than the philosophy. |
| [07:53:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: but by golly you contributed a howto. knowledge! |
| [07:54:00] | dtm: | you increased the public brain trust, where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts ;) |
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| [07:56:00] | nanoITX: | I respect the man because he is so damn stubborn and pigheaded in his belief. This does not mean I agree with his phililosophy: Both Free code and Microsoft can exist, and there is a place for both. Of course, caveat emptor. |
| [08:00:00] | dtm: | the law provides a framework of balance between the rights of the individual/corporation vs. the rights of the collective public. but grassroots efforts will always be required in order to remove the profit from corruption, and that grassroots mentality will always require hypervigilant, although not zealous, leadership |
| [08:00:00] | nanoITX: | 250 of 454 MB downloaded (a NASA 1080i shuttle launch) |
| [08:00:00] | dtm: | ooo cool |
| [08:00:00] | nanoITX: | yes. |
| [08:00:00] | dtm: | so what's that, five minutes? ;) |
| [08:00:00] | nanoITX: | I wish. I have 1.5 Mb/s x 384 Kb/s DSL. |
| [08:01:00] | nanoITX: | Yes, a cable modem would be faster. |
| [08:01:00] | nanoITX: | No, comcast won't give me a static IP address. |
| [08:01:00] | dtm: | so my communication with RMS has always been based around rewarding his hypervigilance and innovation but requesting self restraint of zeal ;) |
| [08:01:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: no i was suggesting that 454MB gets you 5 mins TRT of HD footage ;) |
| [08:01:00] | nanoITX: | Oh, that. Yeah, I suppose. |
| [08:02:00] | dtm: | hehehe |
| [08:02:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: where are you working now |
| [08:02:00] | nanoITX: | I have a 15 second trailer I was using for initial testing, and I wanted someting a bit longer. |
| [08:02:00] | buu: | Hrm. This is a weird problem |
| [08:02:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: you wouldn't believe me if I told you. |
| [08:02:00] | dtm: | i ran 'mythcommflag --all' which has been at almost 100% cpu for the last 42 minutes |
| [08:02:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: what, microsoft? |
| [08:02:00] | buu: | Well, I'm sure it's not a problem, but I've got a couple of .mpg files in /myth/video |
| [08:02:00] | nanoITX: | Let's just say that the devil pays well. |
| [08:02:00] | buu: | Then when I go to "play video" from the myth front end screen, it lists nothing |
| [08:02:00] | dtm: | :-I |
| [08:03:00] | ** nanoITX feels like a cheap code whore. ** | |
| [08:03:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: what are rights and dignity worth? :) |
| [08:03:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: sounds like you're suggesting those are at stake or for sale |
| [08:03:00] | nanoITX: | Nobody is forced to buy Microsoft. |
| [08:03:00] | dtm: | yeah, they effectively are. hence the illegal monopoly. |
| [08:03:00] | nanoITX: | that's business. |
| [08:03:00] | dtm: | heh. geez. |
| [08:04:00] | dtm: | that's economic coercion. i.e. force |
| [08:04:00] | nanoITX: | It is odd, because I use strictlu free stuff at home. |
| [08:04:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: no. "Go code your own". RMS did. |
| [08:04:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: ha. he's a software engineer! |
| [08:04:00] | nanoITX: | and Linus, and us, and me. |
| [08:04:00] | buu: | nanoITX: I'm pretty sure microsoft didn't get convicted of being a monopoly for regular business practices.. |
| [08:05:00] | dtm: | not me! i'm a sysadmin and volunteer. i utterly depend on you guys. |
| [08:05:00] | nanoITX: | I write test software for them. |
| [08:05:00] | nanoITX: | business is dirty. |
| [08:05:00] | nanoITX: | actually, I write software to manage shared test labs of large numbers of test machines. |
| [08:05:00] | buu: | Anyway, am I right in assuming my .mpg files should show up in the video screen for mythfrontend? |
| [08:05:00] | buu: | Do I have to add them to a database? |
| [08:06:00] | nanoITX: | But. I do feel *unclean* some days. |
| [08:06:00] | buu: | That's never a good sign |
| [08:06:00] | nanoITX: | Still, never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Make of that remark what you will. |
| [08:07:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: you can't globalize or fully rationalize your personal decisions, sir. you can't have it both ways. |
| [08:07:00] | buu: | nanoITX: Less whining, more fixing! |
| [08:07:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: i make a nonsequitur of that remark sir :) |
| [08:08:00] | dtm: | buu: what video screen? |
| [08:08:00] | dtm: | buu: you should get at least a .png |
| [08:08:00] | nanoITX: | I am a libertarian. I do not see a natural monopoly as evil, merely inconvenient. So, I see value *both* in Microsoft's offerings as well as free software. |
| [08:08:00] | dtm: | a thumbnail |
| [08:08:00] | buu: | dtm: When I boot the front end, then click "play videos" |
| [08:08:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: they are not a natural monopoly. that's absurd to the extreme. |
| [08:08:00] | buu: | Itjust shows me an empty screen with "video/" at the top |
| [08:08:00] | buu: | Do I need to update something someplace? Relaunch myth? |
| [08:08:00] | nanoITX: | I say they are: Microsoft never put a gun to anyone's head: they just offered deals that were inconvenient to refuse. |
| [08:09:00] | nanoITX: | I'd rather not talk about them: I do not speak for them. |
| [08:09:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: by loading the market and sabotaging competition |
| [08:09:00] | ** cesman ponders which channel he is in ** | |
| [08:09:00] | buu: | cesman: You are my only hope! |
| [08:09:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: yeah and you wouldn't speak rationally for them if you did! so never mind |
| [08:09:00] | nanoITX: | fine by me. I am a libertarian. |
| [08:10:00] | cesman: | hope for what? |
| [08:10:00] | nanoITX: | put another way: if there was no MSF |
| [08:10:00] | buu: | cesman: Solving my problems |
| [08:10:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: ok then you'd eventually become a fascist or victim thereof |
| [08:10:00] | nanoITX: | T, there would be less pressure for there to be free software. And, I believe the existance of free software is a good thing. |
| [08:10:00] | buu: | cesman: I just want to watch a video =[ |
| [08:10:00] | cesman: | so what is stopping you? |
| [08:11:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: that's an absurdly vacuous and nonsequitur pseudo-rationale |
| [08:11:00] | buu: | cesman: The video play mode isn't detecting them. |
| [08:11:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: anyway, sorry, never mind :) |
| [08:11:00] | cesman: | did you run the vidoe manager? |
| [08:11:00] | buu: | cesman: Um. No? How? |
| [08:12:00] | dtm: | cesman: what's the video manager |
| [08:12:00] | buu: | Heh |
| [08:12:00] | dtm: | is 'mythcommflag --all' supposed to manually scan all content, end to end? |
| [08:12:00] | ** cesman ponders if anyone reads the MythTV docs... ** | |
| [08:12:00] | dtm: | cesman: oh good grief. |
| [08:12:00] | buu: | No =[ |
| [08:12:00] | dtm: | cesman: the docs and the experience they entail are complex and huge. |
| [08:12:00] | cesman: | good gried nothing... |
| [08:13:00] | buu: | cesman: Where do I find this manager? |
| [08:13:00] | dtm: | cesman: no, good grief" |
| [08:13:00] | dtm: | no good grief everything. |
| [08:13:00] | dtm: | everything about it is complex and minute |
| [08:13:00] | cesman: | it is under the settings |
| [08:14:00] | buu: | Ok great, I found it |
| [08:14:00] | buu: | Thanks |
| [08:16:00] | cesman: | you're welcome |
| [08:16:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: you wanna see a real *evil* org? Look at the RIAA: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/26/0050209 |
| [08:17:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: just as evil. i dont live in a world of absolute moral relativism, sorry |
| [08:17:00] | buu: | Now um. Hrm. I'm not getting sound =[ |
| [08:17:00] | buu: | aumix shows my volume is up.. |
| [08:18:00] | dtm: | no "ends justifying the means", nor less guilt by comparison .. only by intent. i.e. rule of law |
| [08:19:00] | nanoITX: | to each his own. I *am* an odd one there because their commercial stuff isn't good enuf "for me", even at the employee discount. Fortunately for them, they still sell to lots of others. How long this will continue depends on what the market demands and accepts. |
| [08:19:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: nor less guilty by proximity of personal impact. doesn't matter how it affects me personally |
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| [08:20:00] | buu: | Hmph. |
| [08:20:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: and what they demand and accept depends on the public's (and the public's leadership's) awareness of M$'s war against the global public, like any illegal monopoly. that's why they're illegal. |
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| [08:20:00] | buu: | Anyone have an idea where I could debug sound? lspci lits my sound card.. |
| [08:20:00] | dtm: | just like with the RIAA. |
| [08:21:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: as a libertarian I believe the proper response to a monopoly leveraging it's strenght is community backlash and organization. Any government that can quash a monopolist is more to be feared than the monopolist itself. The fact that Linux exists *proves* that MSFT is "mostly harmless". |
| [08:21:00] | Chutt: | when did this channel become /.? |
| [08:21:00] | buu: | lsmod shows 'snd_ac97_codec' and so forth |
| [08:22:00] | buu: | But I get no output. |
| [08:22:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: no, it doesn't. but the rest of that is true :) |
| [08:22:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: winning the war against the public will prove that it's mostly harmless, someday |
| [08:22:00] | nanoITX: | I do not submit to the notion of "illegal monopoly". Inconvenient, perhaps. But the state should not be the one to try to "correct" that. |
| [08:22:00] | buu: | That's sad. |
| [08:23:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: that would assume an ideally informed public, which is impossible, and is to a large degree due to the illlegal monopoly. that's why they're illegal. |
| [08:23:00] | Chutt: | you guys go talk in #morons or something |
| [08:23:00] | dtm: | the game is utterly and fundamentally rigged |
| [08:23:00] | dtm: | Chutt: k |
| [08:23:00] | buu: | Chutt: HELP ME. |
| [08:23:00] | Chutt: | buu, no |
| [08:23:00] | buu: | =[ |
| [08:23:00] | dtm: | buu: how about your mixer |
| [08:23:00] | buu: | So much for being ontopic |
| [08:23:00] | buu: | dtm: aumix shows volumes at about 80% |
| [08:23:00] | dtm: | buu: speakers plugged into the proper port |
| [08:23:00] | dtm: | ? |
| [08:24:00] | buu: | I tried them all |
| [08:24:00] | buu: | I hear static from the speakers when I plug them in |
| [08:24:00] | dtm: | buu: does any app work? |
| [08:24:00] | dtm: | buu: anything in 'dmesg'? |
| [08:24:00] | buu: | 'work' ? |
| [08:24:00] | dtm: | work. |
| [08:25:00] | buu: | You mean does any other app play sound? |
| [08:26:00] | dtm: | yeah! |
| [08:26:00] | nanoITX: | dtm:yes, strenght is derived from the public being generally incapable of forming a proper value analysis. Eventually, the market corrects this. Forceful response to the inconvenience caused by a monopolist is caving into impatience, and ultimately creating a greater evil. How many people can billy-gee kill? Georgy boy? Hmm. I see the proposed cure far worse than the disease. Anyway, shall we agree to disagree and remain utterly |
| [08:26:00] | nanoITX: | disgusted (or disgusting, as the case may be)? |
| [08:26:00] | buu: | dtm: I haven't found any other app yet.. |
| [08:26:00] | ** nanoITX checks his 454 MB HD download. ** | |
| [08:26:00] | dtm: | buu: how about aplay i think |
| [08:27:00] | buu: | Ah, mpg123 |
| [08:27:00] | dtm: | buu: mplayer |
| [08:27:00] | dtm: | yeah that too. |
| [08:27:00] | dtm: | buu: are you using the right sound api? OSS vs. alsa? |
| [08:28:00] | dtm: | buu: do you have errors in dmesg |
| [08:28:00] | dtm: | buu: you might also ask in #alsa |
| [08:28:00] | buu: | dtm: No errors in dmesg |
| [08:28:00] | buu: | I'm using whaatever sound myth set up |
| [08:29:00] | dtm: | buu: are you using alsa or OSS? |
| [08:29:00] | dtm: | buu: and do any other sound apps ploay? |
| [08:29:00] | dtm: | play? |
| [08:29:00] | buu: | No. |
| [08:29:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: kthx |
| [08:30:00] | buu: | I'm using snd_ac97_codec |
| [08:30:00] | nanoITX: | kthx? |
| [08:30:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: do you happen to know how i can reconcile the fact that my mythfrontend still lists shows whose .nuv files i had to manually delete? |
| [08:30:00] | dtm: | now i can't delete them from mythfrontend. |
| [08:30:00] | Chutt: | manually delete them from the database. |
| [08:30:00] | dtm: | a delete request simply does nothing |
| [08:31:00] | dtm: | Chutt: oh ok so i'm just not supposed to do that ;) |
| [08:31:00] | dtm: | in the first place |
| [08:31:00] | Chutt: | and use the frontend, or mythweb next time |
| [08:31:00] | nanoITX: | yeah, db looks out of sync with reality. |
| [08:31:00] | Chutt: | there's several tables to delete entries from. |
| [08:31:00] | dtm: | it'd be nice if the filenames in some way could also reflect the show's name |
| [08:31:00] | dtm: | because i have had to preview them in external apps |
| [08:32:00] | Chutt: | there's scripts in contrib to rename things |
| [08:32:00] | Chutt: | or create links, etc |
| [08:32:00] | dtm: | oh ok. |
| [08:32:00] | nanoITX: | dtm: perhaps if you created new files with the old names that have bogus content, the frontend would let you delete them (for real and from the db). |
| [08:32:00] | dtm: | nanoITX: it doesn't :) |
| [08:32:00] | dtm: | apparently |
| [08:33:00] | nanoITX: | bah |
| [08:33:00] | dtm: | i used 'touch' |
| [08:34:00] | dtm: | why does mythencode.pl need a patched mencoder? |
| [08:34:00] | nanoITX: | can you try having mythsave files with the same names and *then* delete them? |
| [08:34:00] | dtm: | is that from the time when .nuv was a special codec? |
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| [08:35:00] | Chutt: | dtm, make them non-zero size. |
| [08:36:00] | dtm: | k |
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| [08:48:00] | dtm: | it doesn't look like mythname.pl checks for duplicate output filenames. does it?/ |
| [08:50:00] | dtm: | are there docs for the contrib dir? |
| [08:58:00] | dtm: | Chutt: that did it! |
| [08:59:00] | dtm: | dd if=/dev/zero of=1050_20060125023000_20060125030000.nuv bs=1M count=1 |
| [09:01:00] | dtm: | Chutt: why does 'mythcommflag -all' have an fps indicator? is it seeking each file end to end? |
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| [09:32:00] | prologic: | kay guys, someone was helping me the other day with my "flickering" problem |
| [09:33:00] | prologic: | was told to try 0.18.1 (which I've now done) |
| [09:33:00] | prologic: | the overscan setting is in "tv settings", "play back" few pages in |
| [09:33:00] | dtm: | prologic: what's the problem |
| [09:33:00] | prologic: | I've set a vertical overscan of 30% just to get rid of that flickering, but (dunno if it's just me) but the picture seems vertically stretched now |
| [09:33:00] | dtm: | prologic: it's related to overscan? |
| [09:34:00] | prologic: | well prior to this I was getting bad flickering at the top when watching tv |
| [09:34:00] | prologic: | or recorded tv |
| [09:34:00] | prologic: | was told to use overscan, but I'm no exprt on it :) |
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| [09:38:00] | prologic: | hrmm |
| [09:38:00] | prologic: | this is not good :/ |
| [09:38:00] | prologic: | how do I get rid of this flickering ? |
| [09:38:00] | nanoITX: | well, that big HD sample of mine hung the machine hard. I wonder if that's because it's a transport and not program stream. |
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| [10:07:00] | juski: | morning |
| [10:10:00] | dtm: | juski: hi |
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| [10:59:00] | dtm: | does mythbackend automatically run mythfilldatabase? |
| [11:00:00] | dtm: | i noticed that it's running mythcommflag at 4am |
| [11:00:00] | dtm: | without cron |
| [11:02:00] | juski: | dtm: if you tell it to, it will |
| [11:02:00] | dtm: | :-o |
| [11:02:00] | juski: | I can't remember when it schedules it to though |
| [11:03:00] | dtm: | juski: is mythcommflag scanning all my content end to end or what? |
| [11:03:00] | dtm: | it's been running for an hour |
| [11:03:00] | dtm: | at full cpu |
| [11:03:00] | juski: | depends |
| [11:04:00] | dtm: | it was started by mythbackend, but i didn't configure it |
| [11:04:00] | dtm: | i see no way to do so |
| [11:04:00] | dtm: | it's running "mythcommflag -j -V 3 --chanid 1017 --star"...... |
| [11:08:00] | juski: | heh |
| [11:08:00] | juski: | you've obviously set comflagging & other jobs to start at a certain time automatically |
| [11:08:00] | dtm: | i haven't deliberately. |
| [11:09:00] | dtm: | whatever it is, i enabled something, and the settings are default |
| [11:09:00] | juski: | and all recordings will be commflagged by default if set to do so |
| [11:09:00] | dtm: | i did enable commflagging in general. |
| [11:09:00] | juski: | right |
| [11:09:00] | dtm: | yeah ok. |
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| [11:15:00] | juski: | you can set jobs like commflagging to run between certain times... the defaults have the start & end time the same, so they won't run straight away |
| [11:16:00] | juski: | in the same screen you can set how much CPU you want myth to use for the jobs too |
| [11:17:00] | juski: | this stuff ain't rocket science |
| [11:17:00] | juski: | ;) |
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| [11:26:00] | Chicago: | Hi. Can somebody help me with getting myth up? I have been using it for a year, but here's my current problem. |
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| [11:27:00] | Chicago: | Now myth won't start, after changing my version of php to 5.1 and my version of mysql to 4.1... here's the error... "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QPSQL7 QIBASE" |
| [11:28:00] | juski: | upgraded mysql but not the mysql libs for Qt ? |
| [11:28:00] | directhex|work: | you need Qt MySQL bindings |
| [11:28:00] | juski: | or that |
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| [11:29:00] | Chicago: | juski: directhex|work: I did do a revdep-rebuild on the mysql shared objects. Do you know what I need to rebuild specifically? |
| [11:30:00] | juski: | probably the stuff Qt uses to talk to mysql |
| [11:31:00] | directhex|work: | "aptitude install libqt3-mt-mysql" does the job for me. anything more sounds like wasted effort |
| [11:31:00] | Chicago: | hmm... lemme see what I can call to re-emerge all the relavant qt stuff. |
| [11:31:00] | Chicago: | directhex|work: what's aptitude? I'm on gentoo... I havne't used that command before. |
| [11:32:00] | directhex|work: | Chicago, you wouldn't do. it's not for you. |
| [11:33:00] | Chicago: | Thanks for the advice. |
| [11:34:00] | Chicago: | I'll see what I can do. :) |
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| [11:36:00] | MytE: | hey mythtv is pretty much for cable tv service right ? |
| [11:36:00] | directhex|work: | it is? damn, i have to bin my freeview cards and buy an NTL subscription |
| [11:37:00] | MytE: | smartass |
| [11:37:00] | MytE: | :) |
| [11:37:00] | MytE: | well i have only just started reading about it |
| [11:37:00] | MytE: | hehehe |
| [11:37:00] | juski: | erm.. 'emerge' would be the command then |
| [11:38:00] | MytE: | hey directhex .. which service are you using ? |
| [11:39:00] | juski: | if there's an ebuild for qt3-mysql that's compatible with MYSQL4... |
| [11:39:00] | juski: | anyway – lesson learned... don't upgrade if it ain't broken ;) |
| [11:40:00] | directhex|work: | MytE, hum? just a pair of DVB-T tuners |
| [11:40:00] | MytE: | i guess i should start reading |
| [11:40:00] | MytE: | basically i am wondering if i can somehow use mythtv with my pansat receiver |
| [11:44:00] | juski: | you can use a PVR150 to grab the audioudio & video from the box, and get mythtv to change channels on the box with an IR zapper |
| [11:48:00] | juski: | *grab audio.. duh |
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| [11:48:00] | juski: | have to get freenx going soon |
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| [12:59:00] | ramon: | hi all ,,, |
| [12:59:00] | ramon: | i have one question... |
| [13:02:00] | ramon: | The question is ,, i have a hauppage winttv express with bt878 and is perfectly functional,, but when i run mythtv to watch tv,, after fill the database with channels , i cant change the channel in livetv.. i need to exit and use another aplication to change it..anyone knows something..? |
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| [13:10:00] | laga: | ramon: it's either wrong permissions on the device or your channel database is broken/wrong |
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| [13:15:00] | dasOp: | with 18.1, mythfilldatabase --manual completely screwed up what I had entered so I had to fix it manually in the db |
| [13:15:00] | dasOp: | so I guess its not impossible |
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| [13:16:00] | directhex|work: | bearing in mind tuned channels and program listings are distinct entities, unless you link them up by hand |
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| [13:23:00] | slibs: | hello |
| [13:23:00] | slibs: | im totally new to mythtv and that's why i came to ask few questions |
| [13:24:00] | ** laga runs for cover ** | |
| [13:24:00] | slibs: | i haven't even tried mythtv yet, but im going to install it after this |
| [13:24:00] | slibs: | :D |
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| [13:24:00] | slibs: | laga: come back you covard! |
| [13:24:00] | slibs: | so... |
| [13:24:00] | ** laga looks suspiciously at killefiz and wonder if he'd be a new victim for #mythtv-de spam ** | |
| [13:24:00] | slibs: | if i did understood right mythtv is just a program which runs in linux |
| [13:25:00] | slibs: | so i need to install some distro at first |
| [13:25:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [13:25:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [13:25:00] | ** killefiz wonders what is wrong with mythtv-en ** | |
| [13:25:00] | slibs: | hmm that's kind of good thing |
| [13:27:00] | slibs: | i was going to ask about mini-itx things but seems that some guy has made thing called minimyth, so i'll check that first :) |
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| [13:27:00] | laga: | slibs: minimyth is only a frontend, i think. you'd need a separate machine for a backend, i think |
| [13:28:00] | slibs: | seems so |
| [13:28:00] | slibs: | well that shouldn't be a problem anyway |
| [13:29:00] | slibs: | well maybe i'll still try debian or something |
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| [13:42:00] | ** juski is gonna stop using GAIM for IRC ** | |
| [13:43:00] | slibs: | good for you |
| [13:43:00] | slibs: | im not going to stop using bitlbee for all instant messengers from irc-client :D |
| [13:44:00] | juski: | gaim never seems to realise the connection has timed out |
| [13:44:00] | laga: | juski: i like irssi, but it may be too 'command-line' for you |
| [13:44:00] | juski: | laga: there's no such thing as 'too command-line' ;) |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | if it doesn't need a GUI, so much the better |
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| [13:45:00] | laga: | juski: try irssi then. |
| [13:46:00] | juski: | searching... |
| [13:47:00] | juski: | emerging... |
| [13:47:00] | laga: | and a real distro |
| [13:47:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [13:50:00] | slibs: | irssi has to be good since it's from finland originally, just like linux is :D |
| [13:50:00] | juski: | heh |
| [13:52:00] | ** juski refrains from making a terrible pun on 'Finnish' and 'finished' ** | |
| [13:54:00] | Kelerion: | I prefer xchat anyways.. works just fine |
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| [13:55:00] | juski: | wow.. irssi _is_ very, erm... isn't it? |
| [13:55:00] | laga: | yes, though the lack of any adjectives disturbs me a little bit |
| [13:56:00] | laga: | speechlessness++ |
| [13:56:00] | juski: | not as shocking as when I installed slackware a few years ago.. took ages & ages... booted it up.. er.. where's the GUI????! reformat... |
| [13:57:00] | slibs: | :DDD |
| [13:57:00] | laga: | /server irc.freenode.net |
| [13:57:00] | laga: | /join #mythtv-users |
| [13:57:00] | slibs: | :o |
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| [13:59:00] | slibs: | if im not going to use mythtv for tv-stuff, just music, dvd and other videotypes – is there any reason to install it? |
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| [14:01:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. the kudos of saying you have it :P |
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| [14:13:00] | juski: | omfg... I'm appalled by M$ Excel even more today.. plotted a graph of ambient temp against internal temp. for a new camera housing... results in a table.. all looked good. the graph has something that isn't shown in the data and is physically impossible. the camera temp at one point on the x-axis goes 20 degrees below ambient temp. very 'clever'. |
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| [14:13:00] | juski: | i.e. the graph is bollocks and has no relation to the data |
| [14:14:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [14:14:00] | laga: | gnuplot? |
| [14:14:00] | laga: | dunno if that can do such things, though. |
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| [14:15:00] | laga: | juski: BTW, MAK accepted my offer. looks like we have a new mod :) |
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| [14:15:00] | Cromz: | new mod? |
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| [14:15:00] | juski: | w00t. |
| [14:15:00] | ** juski leaves ** | |
| [14:15:00] | juski: | lol |
| [14:16:00] | laga: | juski: no, that's what *i* was going to do ;) |
| [14:16:00] | laga: | Cromz: new moderator at mythtvtalk.com. quite off-topic here, i know. sorry. |
| [14:17:00] | Cromz: | oh ;) |
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| [14:17:00] | juski: | noobs: see ya, and I wouldn't wanna be ya |
| [14:17:00] | Cromz: | is ok |
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| [14:18:00] | juski: | can I have a paypal payment link in my sig? ;) |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | juski: i was thinking about that. hehe |
| [14:19:00] | ** juski wonders exactly how long it's taken to turn evil ** | |
| [14:19:00] | laga: | juski: i don't know. it's a slow transition. |
| [14:19:00] | laga: | but user support makes you bitter. |
| [14:19:00] | juski: | better take note of that before I sign up for any user support job |
| [14:20:00] | laga: | hehe, yep |
| [14:20:00] | juski: | .. and just when you think the software change you asked for fixes the ide flash disk issues... someone else tries it & managed to break it again :-/ |
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| [14:27:00] | Jusk1: | heh |
| [14:28:00] | Jusk1: | this irssi ain't too bad ;-) |
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| [14:34:00] | Kelerion: | xvmc should work on my mx440 right? |
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| [14:37:00] | Kelerion: | just reading a couple of posts about xvmc on a mx440 – they are saying it was essential.. but everything seems pretty ok to me without it.. but I still want to give it a go to see what it does |
| [14:37:00] | juski: | I can live without it on my gf2 card |
| [14:38:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. the post was on about hd.. so that makes sense I suppose |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | if it manages not to catch fire, that is ;) |
| [14:38:00] | Kelerion: | I think I'd want something a bit juicier if I was doing hd though |
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| [14:39:00] | laga: | Kelerion: yep |
| [14:39:00] | laga: | about the 'gf4 mx 440 can do xvmc' part |
| [14:40:00] | Kelerion: | ok cool.. having to recompile anyways so am giving it a try :) |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | you running SVN? |
| [14:40:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [14:40:00] | Kelerion: | they've fixed a bug I reported a couple of weeks ago.. so gonna try it out |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | take a look at ticket #512 then (and related discussions) |
| [14:41:00] | Kelerion: | thats for a via board right? |
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| [14:43:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. this is gonna be erm.. "fun".. that I thought.. but I might learn something in the process.. lol |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | Kelerion: nope, works for nvidia as well. |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | i'm using it on my gf4 mx 440 |
| [14:44:00] | Kelerion: | so you had to do the xorg changes and the db changes? |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [14:45:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. will do.. thanks for the heads-up :) |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | no problem :) |
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| [14:46:00] | laga: | Kelerion: you don't *have* to do it, but i heard it may help with playback it of course, you get a color OSD |
| [14:46:00] | laga: | which does *not* jump up and down when using the bob deinterlacer |
| [14:46:00] | juski: | ooo |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | juski: ack. |
| [14:47:00] | Kelerion: | I'll try it without.. and with.. and see what difference I get |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | (wtf) |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | Kelerion: yep, do that :) |
| [14:49:00] | juski: | nifty. might see if I can get minimyth to work with that. Grayhem is just too.. grey ;-) |
| [14:53:00] | NHIwerx: | is there a problem with getting the svn ? |
| [14:54:00] | NHIwerx: | svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/!svn/vcc/default' |
| [14:54:00] | NHIwerx: | svn: REPORT of '/svn/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.mythtv.org) |
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| [14:54:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. I just got it 20 mins ago |
| [14:54:00] | NHIwerx: | i do: svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv |
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| [14:55:00] | ** Kelerion gives it another go ** | |
| [14:55:00] | Kelerion: | well.. it's checking out as I type this |
| [14:56:00] | johnp_: | NHIwerx: behind a proxy ? |
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| [14:58:00] | Kelerion: | huh? I just saw something called DVDRingBuffer |
| [14:58:00] | Kelerion: | I wonder what thats for |
| [14:58:00] | kwilson: | Anyone know anything about this dmesg |
| [14:58:00] | kwilson: | ivtv0: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data. |
| [14:58:00] | kwilson: | ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough. |
| [14:58:00] | kwilson: | liveTV is not working, but recording is fine |
| [14:59:00] | sphing: | kwilson: never, but I would try increasing the bitrate? |
| [14:59:00] | sphing: | maybe? |
| [14:59:00] | Kelerion: | NHIwerx: all checked out fine here |
| [14:59:00] | NHIwerx: | johnp_: mbe fw |
| [14:59:00] | kwilson: | read: Device or resource busy |
| [15:00:00] | kwilson: | is what mythbackend outputs |
| [15:00:00] | kwilson: | my bitrate is 4400 |
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| [15:00:00] | kwilson: | is that too low? |
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| [15:01:00] | NHIwerx: | johnp_: hmm no fw doesnt block anything |
| [15:02:00] | johnp_: | NHIwerx: AFAIK it's only an issue if you've got a proxy in the way. |
| [15:03:00] | NHIwerx: | i wonder if I can just install the svn version over the rpm installed stable version |
| [15:03:00] | NHIwerx: | johnp_: hm yeah theres a transparent proxy between |
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| [15:05:00] | johnp_: | NHIwerx: try looking at http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#proxy |
| [15:05:00] | NHIwerx: | thx! |
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| [15:07:00] | NHIwerx: | after adding extensions to squid it works, thx alot |
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| [15:08:00] | Kelerion: | where's the xvmc setting gone in FE? |
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| [15:10:00] | sphing: | Kelerion: svn? |
| [15:10:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [15:10:00] | sphing: | nm, I use .1 but I had a similar problem because I didnt compile myth with xvmc support... maybe thats it? |
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| [15:18:00] | Kelerion: | I wonder if it's detecting it's not enable in xorg |
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| [15:30:00] | praet: | juski: im running irssi right now |
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| [15:30:00] | praet: | interesting stuff |
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| [15:41:00] | johnp_: | GreyFoxx: around ? |
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| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
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| [15:42:00] | johnp_: | GreyFoxx, ah cool. I tared up the ati_remote.c and a diff to kernel 2.6.15.1 |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool, can you email it to me ? |
| [15:42:00] | johnp_: | GreyFoxx : link = http://www.pullan.org.uk/john/mythtv/ati_remote.tar |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | grabbing now |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Thanks, I'll have a look later |
| [15:43:00] | johnp_: | GreyFox: not saying you want to use any of it :) but it works for me (TM) |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's my motto for most everything I write :) |
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| [15:45:00] | johnp_: | GreyFoxx: things I did different are : I use Xmodmap to change they key mappings. I auto detect the niveus device and I make use of protocol header bytes 0x14 and 0x20 to differentiate between the niveus and ati remotes. Oh and the channel masking thing didn't look like it would work for the niveus anyway :) |
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| [15:49:00] | NHIwerx: | hmm im triying to compile svn and get /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt but its in lib path |
| [15:49:00] | NHIwerx: | /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/ its here |
| [15:49:00] | NHIwerx: | libqt-mt.so -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 |
| [15:50:00] | NHIwerx: | did ldconfig b4 too |
| [15:50:00] | johnp_: | NHIwerx: QTDIR not set before you qmaked ? (do you still qmake these days) |
| [15:51:00] | NHIwerx: | johnp_: oh hmm no i didnt – where does it have to point to, to the qt lib path ? |
| [15:52:00] | NHIwerx: | lemme check docs |
| [15:52:00] | johnp_: | NHIwerx: it would be /usr/lib/qt-3.3 in your case I think. (assuming I'm not talking rubbish here) |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. anyone know of a xvmc howto off the top of their heads? |
| [15:53:00] | NHIwerx: | johnp_: ok i set it and make goes on – thx |
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| [15:57:00] | juski: | Kelerion: xvmc is now in tv playback settings in SVN |
| [15:58:00] | Kelerion: | I looked in there |
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| [15:58:00] | juski: | well it _was_ about a week or 2 ago |
| [15:59:00] | juski: | decode method, I think |
| [15:59:00] | Kelerion: | ahhhhh |
| [15:59:00] | Kelerion: | thats it |
| [15:59:00] | Kelerion: | thanks |
| [16:03:00] | juski: | np |
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| [16:16:00] | engi1: | Hi. How do I specify exactly what sound input mythtv should use? I can record sound with arecord, but myth isn't picking it up. I note that arecord -l specifies I have two devices on my sound card, and I think it's the second one I need to record off |
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| [16:16:00] | Kelerion: | laga.. you still about? |
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| [16:23:00] | juski: | engi1: you got a tuner card plugged into your soundcard? |
| [16:23:00] | juski: | just _one_ tuner card plugged into it? |
| [16:24:00] | engi1: | juski: The input is direct into the sound card from teh sky receiver |
| [16:24:00] | juski: | if you're not using a PVR mpeg encoder or DVB tuner, you set where mythtv gets the audio in mythtv-setup |
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| [16:25:00] | engi1: | my arecord -l is: |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | card 0: nForce2 [NVidia nForce2], device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia nForce2] |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | Subdevices: 1/1 |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | card 0: nForce2 [NVidia nForce2], device 1: Intel ICH – MIC ADC [NVidia nForce2 – MIC ADC] |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | Subdevices: 1/1 |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | card 1: default [C-Media USB Headphone Set ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | Subdevices: 1/1 |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | So I have two sub devices on one card |
| [16:25:00] | Kelerion: | engi1: use pastebin if you do that again |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | I assume /dev/dsp0 is listening to the first sub device |
| [16:25:00] | engi1: | Kelerion: Sorry |
| [16:25:00] | ** juski puts his finger in the dyke for the 2nd time in as many days.. flood! ** | |
| [16:26:00] | juski: | so are you using a framegrabber card, engi1? |
| [16:26:00] | engi1: | juski: It's an old one |
| [16:26:00] | engi1: | The video works great |
| [16:27:00] | engi1: | And if I record with arecord, the sound in is fine |
| [16:27:00] | engi1: | into the sounds card |
| [16:27:00] | engi1: | It's just puersuading mythtv to listen to the mike input |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | just a case of pointing mythtv at the right audio device in mythtv-setup |
| [16:27:00] | engi1: | Is myth listening to the OSS sound source |
| [16:27:00] | engi1: | ? |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | the mike input?! use the line input |
| [16:27:00] | engi1: | juski: I know. This is a nforce2 board – no line input |
| [16:27:00] | engi1: | Not that I've found |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | ouch |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | mono sound here you come |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | if you want stereo sound, you might aswell stop at this point |
| [16:28:00] | stuarta: | or go buy a proper soundcard |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | I thought all these new boards have smartjack or whatever so you can reassign inputs |
| [16:29:00] | directhex|work: | correct |
| [16:29:00] | engi1: | I've never figured out how to do that with linux |
| [16:29:00] | directhex|work: | you do it in alsa by muting/unmuting some toggleswitches in alsamixer |
| [16:29:00] | engi1: | will have a look |
| [16:29:00] | directhex|work: | http://apebox.org/modules/images//Miscelaneou . . . gitalout.png |
| [16:29:00] | directhex|work: | ^^ like that |
| [16:30:00] | juski: | as for getting myth to capture from an audio device.. I just used dev/dsp when I mucked with a framegrabber (for 10 minutes) |
| [16:30:00] | engi1: | directhex|work: Thanks, will try |
| [16:30:00] | juski: | I dunno what the alsa device name would be |
| [16:33:00] | engi1: | Irritatingly, if I turn up the output volume of the mike channel I can hear the sound piped straight through |
| [16:33:00] | engi1: | however myth still won't record it |
| [16:33:00] | engi1: | (it is set to be a capture device) |
| [16:34:00] | juski: | so mythtv is probably set to use the wrong device.. it'd be /dev/dsp by default or something |
| [16:34:00] | engi1: | juski: It is set to use /dev/dsp – but there are sub devices |
| [16:34:00] | engi1: | I think :/ |
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| [16:45:00] | Kelerion: | laga: you about dude? could you post a copy of your xorg.conf please? I want to compare something |
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| [16:46:00] | juski: | Kelerion: is this about the XvMCUsesTextures bit? It's on the ML |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | can't find any info on what an alsa input device might be.. I think you're supposed to guess from doing arecord -l |
| [16:48:00] | engi1: | I've plugged the audio in through a small USB sound dongle I had – that'll do for now! |
| [16:48:00] | Kelerion: | nah.. something else.. I don't think I have my device settings right in xorg.. I think (however I have *no* idea why) it's loading the "nv" driver instead of the "nvidia" driver |
| [16:48:00] | engi1: | All I have to do now is build the device to get it to control the Sky box – but that's a project for another day |
| [16:48:00] | engi1: | Thanks all |
| [16:49:00] | Kelerion: | which is ridiculous as it definately says "driver 'nvidia'" |
| [16:49:00] | juski: | on some cards, from what I've been able to gather, /dev/dsp0 is the output, and /dev/dsp1 is the input.. but it varies, allegedly ... glad I don't have to work all that out ;-) |
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| [16:54:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... somehow my myth database got borked... It's got recordings in it that don't exist... anyone know how I can fix the database? It won't let me delete them (I see "file does't exist" in the console output) |
| [16:55:00] | jams: | flithm- touch the file and then you will be able to delete it with myth |
| [16:55:00] | flithm: | jams, I see... how do I get the filename? (console output doesn't show file name) |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | the output from the backend will |
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| [16:57:00] | flithm: | ahh gotcha |
| [16:57:00] | flithm: | thanks |
| [17:00:00] | flithm: | hmm i must have to increase the verbosity level or something |
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| [17:05:00] | juski: | look in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend or stop mythbackend & run it in a console |
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| [17:07:00] | Kelerion: | ahhh *crap* .. I just uninstall X.. lol |
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| [17:14:00] | stuarta: | kelerion: gives you a chance to try out xorg 6.9 |
| [17:16:00] | Kelerion: | I'm having enough problems with what I *did* have! lol |
| [17:16:00] | stuarta: | :) |
| [17:17:00] | metalac: | Kelerion: what sorts of problems? |
| [17:17:00] | Kelerion: | not exactly sure.. it ain't using nvagp by the looks of it.. and dri and opengl definatly aren't working |
| [17:18:00] | Kelerion: | and I *think* it's using the nv driver when it's supposed to be using the "nvidia" driver |
| [17:18:00] | metalac: | but is it all setup properly in xorg.conf? |
| [17:18:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [17:18:00] | stuarta: | can always try moving the nv driver out of the way |
| [17:18:00] | stuarta: | or removing X entirely :) |
| [17:18:00] | Kelerion: | thats what I did.."apt-get remove blah".. and it uninstalled X!!! lol |
| [17:20:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, when it's installed again, put your xorg.conf up and let us look at it |
| [17:20:00] | metalac: | yeah |
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| [17:22:00] | Eszenia: | is there a point in doing usefbdev option in xorg.conf? |
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| [17:22:00] | Eszenia: | in relation to myth? |
| [17:22:00] | metalac: | no |
| [17:23:00] | metalac: | at least not that i can see |
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| [17:25:00] | Eszenia: | do you know of which i refer to? |
| [17:25:00] | Eszenia: | or are you guessing? |
| [17:25:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, only if you're using a FB device |
| [17:25:00] | Eszenia: | i just noticed my laptop goes much faster when i have that option |
| [17:25:00] | Eszenia: | as far as video |
| [17:25:00] | Eszenia: | and glxgears |
| [17:25:00] | Eszenia: | ati card |
| [17:25:00] | metalac: | yeah seems that most ati's have it enabled |
| [17:26:00] | Eszenia: | i just enabled it, i mean |
| [17:26:00] | Eszenia: | should i enable it for nvidia card? |
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| [17:26:00] | Eszenia: | that myth runs on? |
| [17:26:00] | Eszenia: | here's a question |
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| [17:26:00] | Eszenia: | myth is running on my desktop |
| [17:26:00] | Eszenia: | where i often use it |
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| [17:27:00] | Eszenia: | can i also view it from laptop on same network? |
| [17:27:00] | Eszenia: | i guess with backend on desktop, and watching movies from laptop? |
| [17:27:00] | Kelerion: | sod it.. just gonna reinstall.. might give fc4 a try for a change |
| [17:28:00] | xris: | Eszenia: that's sort of the point of separate backend and frontend |
| [17:28:00] | Eszenia: | i figured xris |
| [17:29:00] | Eszenia: | so you can have multiple front ends? |
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| [17:31:00] | jams: | Eszenia- yes |
| [17:31:00] | Eszenia: | k |
| [17:31:00] | Eszenia: | xris, any advantage to usefbdev for nvidia? |
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| [17:33:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, shouldn't be any, no |
| [17:33:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, shouldn't be any for ati tho as well, are you sure you are using ati's binary only driver? |
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| [17:36:00] | juski: | later.. |
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| [17:38:00] | Eszenia: | kormoc ati's binary driver doesn't work for my card |
| [17:39:00] | Eszenia: | 320m |
| [17:39:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, ahh, that's why then it works for you. usefbdev uses the in kernel radeon frame buffer device |
| [17:39:00] | Eszenia: | no advantage for nvidia binary? |
| [17:39:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, with nvidia's or ati's binary drivers, you have no in kernel driver, so it wouldn't work at all |
| [17:40:00] | Eszenia: | oic |
| [17:40:00] | Eszenia: | with nvidia's too? |
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| [17:40:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [17:40:00] | Eszenia: | k |
| [17:40:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, if you don't beleive me, just look at nvida's docs. They list every option that works with their driver, and it's not listed. |
| [17:42:00] | Eszenia: | k |
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| [17:52:00] | xris: | w00t. nice microsoft mce keyboard... hope it works in linux |
| [17:54:00] | xris: | comes with 2 IR blasters, too |
| [17:54:00] | xris: | wonder if there is linux support for them |
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| [18:11:00] | ** xris kicks the awesome keyboard that doesn't seem to work in linux ** | |
| [18:11:00] | slibs: | :) |
| [18:12:00] | slibs: | microsoft keyboard + linux = NO WAY |
| [18:12:00] | xris: | that sucks |
| [18:12:00] | metalac: | it's ironic though :) |
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| [18:13:00] | xris: | slibs: my microsoft ergonimoc keyboard works in linux.. and all microsoft mice I've ever used. |
| [18:14:00] | slibs: | well sure they work :D |
| [18:14:00] | slibs: | it would be stupid if not |
| [18:14:00] | xris: | this one apparently may ONLY work with windows MCE |
| [18:14:00] | slibs: | like microsoft had made some chip which allows their keyboards to be used only with windows systems :D |
| [18:15:00] | slibs: | well does it need somekind of special drivers :/ |
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| [18:15:00] | metalac: | i mean i doubt |
| [18:16:00] | metalac: | most keyboards are pretty damn standard |
| [18:16:00] | metalac: | of course special buttons are always a problem |
| [18:16:00] | metalac: | but there are workaround |
| [18:16:00] | metalac: | s |
| [18:17:00] | xris: | this one seems to have lirc support. |
| [18:17:00] | xris: | but not as a keyboard. |
| [18:17:00] | xris: | guess I'll play with it in myth and see what I can come up with. it's a nice keyboard |
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| [18:25:00] | xris: | sucks it doesn't just work as a keyboard, but at least I can take solice in the fact that it doesn't work with windows, either.. only windows mce 2005 |
| [18:27:00] | ** xris kicks microsoft for good measure. ** | |
| [18:30:00] | laga: | Kelerion: here i am. sorry for the delay, had RL interfere on me |
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| [18:54:00] | Kelerion: | laga: np.. could you post your xorg.conf for me please? |
| [18:54:00] | laga: | Kelerion: hehe. mx XF86Config-4 should work as well :) |
| [18:54:00] | Kelerion: | what are you running? |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | Kelerion: http://laga.ath.cx/~laga/XF86Config-4.myth-bedtv |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | Kelerion: debian sarge. |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | Kelerion: but the configs are compatible |
| [18:55:00] | Kelerion: | ok – got it.. thanks :) |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | :) |
| [18:56:00] | metalac: | laga: so when you start X do you see Nvidia logo? |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | metalac: yep. |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | but that can easily be disabled |
| [18:57:00] | metalac: | so that means it's using nvidia driver |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | right. |
| [18:57:00] | metalac: | now do you have all the stuff necesary for DRI compiled in kernel? |
| [18:57:00] | Kelerion: | metalac: it was me having problems.. not laga |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | the nvidia driver shouldn't care about DRI. why are you asking, BTW? |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | :) |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | oh, ok. ;) |
| [18:58:00] | metalac: | oh whoops :) |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | wow. that rocks. getting user support without asking for it. metalac: you rock ;) |
| [18:58:00] | metalac: | what can i say :) |
| [18:58:00] | metalac: | we take pride in our work ;) |
| [18:58:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | hehehe |
| [19:00:00] | ** Kelerion decides he really doesn't like mandrake as much as he used to and goes to re-install ubuntu ** | |
| [19:00:00] | xris: | Kelerion: why would you install a 2-year-old distro? |
| [19:01:00] | Kelerion: | ok – mandriva as it's now called.. but I got used to 7.2 for so long.. lol |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:02:00] | ** xris kicks microsoft again for good measure ** | |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | WHY would you make a keyboard that requires a special IR driver that only works withone version of windows?!? |
| [19:03:00] | Kelerion: | *why* would you buy such a kb? :P |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | becuase for $250, I got the keyboard, windows mce, a $250 proc and a $120 motherboard |
| [19:04:00] | Kelerion: | ok – you win.. lol |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | will probably just sell the kb/remote/mce |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | seems to go on ebay together for $200 |
| [19:04:00] | ** laga 'defuses' MCE in the microwave ** | |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | should be able to undercut that for $150 or so |
| [19:04:00] | laga: | before it contaminates your household |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | laga: it's in a sealed container |
| [19:05:00] | laga: | xris: please make sure that the sealing is OK |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | :) |
| [19:06:00] | kormoc: | yeah, gonna do the same I'd think |
| [19:07:00] | ** laga grunts at kormoc and xris ** | |
| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | laga, it's gonna help fund the rest of the box :) |
| [19:07:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [19:08:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... is there an option to change video modes before playing video? I thought I remembered seeing an option for this once, but for the life of me I can't find it now if it exists? |
| [19:08:00] | kormoc: | flithm, check the frontend settings |
| [19:09:00] | flithm: | kormoc, I am :). I've been through all the menus at least 3 times and I can't find it. I must be blind or something. It's like looking in the fridge I think. |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | flithm: did you enable the xrandr extension when compiling mythtv? |
| [19:09:00] | kormoc: | I beleive it's under general |
| [19:10:00] | flithm: | laga, I'm not sure. should I? |
| [19:10:00] | flithm: | ahh I found it! |
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| [19:14:00] | stuarta: | hmpf. kernel de-int seems to have been broken recently :( |
| [19:15:00] | beavis: | heh, that's what I said yesterday :P |
| [19:16:00] | stuarta: | thought so. |
| [19:17:00] | stuarta: | plus there's another problem I think got mentioned yesterday |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | i've found that linearblend gives me smoother movement anyways :) |
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| [19:17:00] | stuarta: | don't know if i've tried that, but never liked bob. |
| [19:18:00] | laga: | bob is great imho, the annoying thing is the bobbing OSD |
| [19:18:00] | stuarta: | i can just see the whole screen bobbing slightly. |
| [19:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tried out the ChromaKey OSD ? |
| [19:19:00] | stuarta: | doesn't that need xvmc? |
| [19:19:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't think it required it |
| [19:19:00] | stuarta: | when I get bored of fixing other things I might try it. |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm, I recompiled myth to support xranddr, but for the life of me I can't find any mention of it in the menus. |
| [19:19:00] | Chutt: | and kernel de-int hasn't changed in over 5 months. |
| [19:20:00] | laga: | bob works great with chromakey OSD :). however, i found that bob complains that my refresh rate is too low when i'm using a pal modeline. |
| [19:20:00] | stuarta: | that's why I was surprised it didn't work properly... |
| [19:20:00] | stuarta: | worked 2 days ago. |
| [19:20:00] | Chutt: | find the changelist which broke it, and maybe someone can do something about it. |
| [19:21:00] | stuarta: | Will do, just trying to work out why I'm getting "AFD Error: Could not find codec parameters" quite often. |
| [19:21:00] | stuarta: | that's in the last 2 days too :( |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think I've ever seen that |
| [19:22:00] | stuarta: | okay, weirdness. gdb can't debug it. Full rebuild again to be sure.... |
| [19:23:00] | stuarta: | tho if your interested I'll pastebin it. |
| [19:26:00] | Chutt: | making people on the list be moderated is fun. |
| [19:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Someone annoying you ? |
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| [19:28:00] | Chutt: | yeah, the guy that complained about being 'singled out' when i quashed the lameass political thread. |
| [19:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [19:29:00] | laga: | some amusement would go well with my beer. i think i should check my emails ;) |
| [19:30:00] | Chutt: | his first moderated post was complaining about someone smacking him for top posting. |
| [19:30:00] | Chutt: | of course, he top posted there, too |
| [19:30:00] | Chutt: | i don't approve any moderated postings =) |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | So he can watch but not participate |
| [19:31:00] | laga: | great, there's a mythtv newsgroup.. |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wish I could do that with a couple of my coworkers :) |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: saw that |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not some sort of mail->news gateway someone setup is it ? |
| [19:32:00] | Chutt: | sure better not be. |
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| [19:33:00] | laga: | i don't think so *shrug* |
| [19:33:00] | stuarta: | beavis: What version started giving you problems |
| [19:34:00] | beavis: | now with gmail I'm not complaining anymore about the big amount on emails :P |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | i'll take a look at it if groups.google.com mirrors it, i'm too lazy to setup usenet stuff now |
| [19:34:00] | beavis: | stuarta: it was the first one yesterday |
| [19:34:00] | stuarta: | i have 8724 not working, 8699 working... |
| [19:34:00] | beavis: | stuarta: the one built two days ago was ok |
| [19:35:00] | stuarta: | same. |
| [19:35:00] | ** GreyFoxx fires up tin ** | |
| [19:35:00] | Chutt: | version numbers are useful. 'the first one yesterday' is not |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Nothing in alt.video.ptv.mythtv |
| [19:35:00] | beavis: | Chutt: he'll know since he's in europe too ;) |
| [19:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | At least not on the WorldComs news server |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: nice. well, maybe your news server doesn't carry the group yet, i don't know how usenet works. this guys said in his mail to -users that they're trying to get it added to news.individual.net |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: The group itself appeared today, but so far no messages in it |
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| [19:39:00] | beavis: | stuarta: I wrote to -dev that 8722 isn't working |
| [19:39:00] | Chutt: | the version number where it _broke_ |
| [19:39:00] | Chutt: | not some random version number after that. |
| [19:40:00] | stuarta: | chutt: we're just narrowing down where to start looking... |
| [19:40:00] | beavis: | stuarta: and the first one was 2 or 3 hours earlier |
| [19:40:00] | beavis: | thanks stuarta |
| [19:40:00] | Chutt: | just binary search it |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, upnp, iptv, mythui, etc ,etc . If all that made it in myth 0.20 would be quite a different beast :) |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | it won't |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | people aren't going to submit code |
| [19:41:00] | stuarta: | pseudo binary: use trac timeline to pick out interesting changesets.... 1st 8719 |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, I've been watching long enough to doubt most of it would come |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it would be interesting :) |
| [19:42:00] | Chutt: | 8719 has absolutely nothing to do with playback. |
| [19:42:00] | laga: | well, the upnp guys have some code. iptv is still on the drawing board :) |
| [19:43:00] | laga: | i really hope that mythburn-ui is somewhat usable in 0.20 (or maybe even 0.19) |
| [19:43:00] | stuarta: | well 8703 does. |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Is that the same mythburn that;'s been out for a while? It's a seperate app, not an actual plugin ? |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I remember a year or so ago looking at screenshots of something I thought was mythburn |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i think mythburn-ui is some kind of real plugin that's supposed to be a frontend for the mythburn scripts |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: mythburn is just a mod for mythweb (that works quite well from what i've heard) |
| [19:45:00] | beavis: | stuarta: so we're between 8703 and 8721 now? |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: maybe you mean nuv2disc? |
| [19:45:00] | stuarta: | not yet. |
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| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: QWhatever it was I saw was definately called "mythburn" |
| [19:46:00] | Chutt: | laga, only way it's getting official is if the dependency list gets cut _way_ down. |
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| [19:46:00] | the-FoX: | hello |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: http://mythburn.sourceforge.net/ – mythburn-ui could be the 'new interface' they're mentioning there |
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| [19:47:00] | laga: | Chutt: let me guess, you don't like the idea of having projectX as a dependency? :) |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: cool |
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| [19:47:00] | stuarta: | jvm's are evil. |
| [19:48:00] | beavis: | we could use the new geoff-transcoder :) |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | stuarta: Ahmen |
| [19:48:00] | stuarta: | that's what I'm aiming to do beavis... |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | stuarta: are you somehow involved with the development? |
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| [19:49:00] | stuarta: | I hack, submit patches, danielk commits. |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | stuarta: nice. and what are you going to use geoffrey's transcoder for? |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, sometimes looking at gprof's output in a small window makes my eyes go crossed. |
| [19:50:00] | stuarta: | dvb-t -> dvd :-) |
| [19:50:00] | beavis: | my standalone player already plays the geoff-transcoded files correctly :P |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | i can feel it. i'm gonna buy a DVD writer these days. |
| [19:51:00] | stuarta: | I get stuck at mythburn, but haven't played lately.... |
| [19:51:00] | beavis: | it's quite easy, i just burn the pure mpg file |
| [19:52:00] | metalac: | anybody knows if mythtv will work ok with hollywood plus mpeg2 encoder card? |
| [19:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: It's a decoder, and no |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | metalac: won't work. blame it on greyfoxx. ;) |
| [19:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah yeah |
| [19:52:00] | metalac: | ahahahhaahah |
| [19:52:00] | stuarta: | I'm being optimistic & hoping for a nice interface :) |
| [19:52:00] | metalac: | damnn yoouuuuuuu |
| [19:52:00] | metalac: | it has such a nice TV out |
| [19:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a version of 0.13 and 0.144 that works with it |
| [19:52:00] | stuarta: | despite being a command line baby. |
| [19:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I still have the source to that |
| [19:53:00] | metalac: | much better than any video card i've seen |
| [19:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Yeah, I agree |
| [19:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I used one in a P166 for afrontend for a while |
| [19:53:00] | metalac: | so i assume none of the cards that do similar things will work either/ |
| [19:53:00] | metalac: | ? |
| [19:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | The PVR350 works |
| [19:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the XvMC decoding on unichrome/epia boards plus nvidia cards |
| [19:54:00] | metalac: | now with 350 I still need a video card to display mythtv interface? or is 350 doing it somehow? |
| [19:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | The 350 can display both X/Myth and the video |
| [19:55:00] | metalac: | you think it's better quality than average nvidia cards? |
| [19:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | The IVTV drivers have a X driver you can use for regular X display |
| [19:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not worth the money imho |
| [19:56:00] | metalac: | ok |
| [19:56:00] | metalac: | i figured i'm gona get pvr500 or 150 depending on the money situation |
| [19:56:00] | metalac: | and fx5200 |
| [19:57:00] | ** GreyFoxx has 3 dxr3's sitting on a shelf. Everytime I see them I think I need to get back to working on that, then life and my family steal all of my time until I forget about it again :) ** | |
| [19:58:00] | ** metalac has two under the bed, hopefully there will be some use for them in future ** | |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I really liked the video output when I was using them. Sweet stuff |
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| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course if you want to go HD they are not an option heh |
| [19:58:00] | metalac: | hey so how much does nvidia's encoding offload the cpu? with dxr3 the cpu was less that 10% at all times no matter what the DVD was |
| [19:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: I don't use hardware decoding on my nvidia cards. Though when I tried it for a few minutes it was fairly significant |
| [19:59:00] | metalac: | ok |
| [19:59:00] | metalac: | i heard that Sigma Designs is supposed to come out with some HD card |
| [19:59:00] | metalac: | apparently they have the chip out already |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a dev board for the em8621. PCI based, does mpeg2/4/h264. HDTV component, VGA and Svideo I think outputs |
| [20:00:00] | metalac: | that would be soo sweet |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | nice |
| [20:01:00] | metalac: | then the 3.0ghz requirement for HD would go out the door :) |
| [20:01:00] | ** xris would still settle for legal DVB from Dish. ** | |
| [20:01:00] | metalac: | but i bet the card would be really pricy |
| [20:01:00] | stuarta: | well 8702 works, but now I've 2.5hrs of recordings. |
| [20:01:00] | stuarta: | Have to wait till the weekend for more testing. |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: Certainly more than an cheap Nvidia fx5200 :) |
| [20:02:00] | Chutt: | stuarta, won't be fixed in 0.19, then. |
| [20:02:00] | stuarta: | no problems. Unless beavis can work something out. |
| [20:02:00] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: but it should be worth it if it covers a wide array of formats and if it's decent price say sub $200 |
| [20:02:00] | Chutt: | it'd only be worth it if you can use it as a video card. |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: I suspect you wont see it under $$200, at least not initiallly |
| [20:03:00] | Chutt: | and use it for stuff other than decoding. |
| [20:03:00] | metalac: | Chutt: well you can always have a cheap ass card to deal with UI, but have this bad boy deal with actuall stuff we care about |
| [20:03:00] | Chutt: | err |
| [20:04:00] | Chutt: | how do you handle displaying the ui on one video output, and the decoded video on another? |
| [20:04:00] | beavis: | Chutt: oh, so there are only 1 or 2 days left? we still have some plugins to translate |
| [20:04:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
| [20:04:00] | metalac: | just like did DVDs on my Hollywood+ |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | doesn't that already work? run X on your vga card and tell mythtv to output via the pvr 350? |
| [20:04:00] | Chutt: | laga, X runs on the pvr-350 |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | Chutt: yes, but you don't have to do that. |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | metalac, that's a crappy user experience. |
| [20:05:00] | metalac: | Chutt: i used to pass a command to mplayer so that it would decode on hollywood plus |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | you can either switch displays |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | or switch inputs on your display |
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| [20:07:00] | metalac: | Chutt: if i remember correctly hollywood+ used to connect to video card and grab it's output and send it to TV and when you watched MPEG2 then hollywood would do it byitself |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | You remember incorrectly |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | There was a VGA passthrough and the mpeg video would be overlayed on it using the onboard em9xxx chip |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | but the VGA in no way makes it out the TV out of the dxr3 |
| [20:08:00] | metalac: | i remember that the cable cost more than the card itself :) |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it did I'd add support for the card tomorrow :) |
| [20:09:00] | metalac: | hehe |
| [20:11:00] | metalac: | around here dxr3s can be bought for as little as $15 in second hand stores |
| [20:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [20:12:00] | metalac: | i bought both of mine for $30 3–4 years ago, i assume they only get cheaper |
| [20:13:00] | metalac: | the cable was another $15 i think :), but well worth it |
| [20:15:00] | Juski: | $15 for a poxy VGA cable? |
| [20:15:00] | Juski: | charlatans ;) |
| [20:16:00] | metalac: | ahahaah |
| [20:16:00] | metalac: | i just checked it's $10, but shipping is extra :) |
| [20:17:00] | Juski: | when it's that short a length, going from card to card, it doesn't even have to be very good cable |
| [20:17:00] | Juski: | certainly not at TV resolutions ;) |
| [20:17:00] | metalac: | i know |
| [20:18:00] | metalac: | but that connector is weird from what i remember |
| [20:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums/2004/07-2 . . . 166.JPG& |
| [20:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | The bottom one is the VGA passthrough |
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| [20:19:00] | k-man_: | hello |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I took photos of them so that I wouldn't have to crack the boxes later if I wanted to see something :) |
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| [20:21:00] | Juski: | 8-pin mini-DIN to VGA plug.. cost less than £5 to make |
| [20:22:00] | metalac: | Juski: i coun't 9 pins |
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| [20:23:00] | Juski: | I just glimpsed ;) |
| [20:23:00] | Juski: | even so – you can get 9 pin mini DIN |
| [20:23:00] | metalac: | i'm telling you it's something totally non-standard |
| [20:24:00] | metalac: | would probably have to order something like that online |
| [20:24:00] | metalac: | and pay $5 in shipping :) |
| [20:25:00] | Juski: | you can make your own plugs from scratch now anyway |
| [20:26:00] | Juski: | shove pins in the socket, then put 'polymorph' around them while it's still soft... wait til it's set.. and finish the job |
| [20:26:00] | metalac: | oh jeezeee |
| [20:26:00] | metalac: | all that for $10 :) |
| [20:26:00] | Juski: | if yer desperate... |
| [20:27:00] | Juski: | $10 if you can still get em ;) |
| [20:27:00] | metalac: | you can get them from their site |
| [20:27:00] | Juski: | that's ok then |
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| [20:30:00] | metalac: | plus no clue what wire corresponds to what |
| [20:30:00] | metalac: | and that'd be a day's work probably |
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| [20:31:00] | Juski: | bit of an old hand at working out which wire goes where.. used to get computers given to me with no PSUs |
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| [20:32:00] | Juski: | there are a couple of Matrox Rainbow Runner cards lying round in a junk box at work... wonder what they'd be like |
| [20:34:00] | Juski: | both have a chip on them which googles as an MPEG decoder.. bloody big J-lead SMT device |
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| [20:36:00] | Coume: | evening |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | good evening |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | heya Coume |
| [20:38:00] | Coume: | how are you guys :) |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | fine, but tired :) |
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| [20:38:00] | laga: | and you? got new glasses? ;) |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | not bad thanks Coume.. you? |
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| [20:39:00] | Juski: | big TV night tonight.. no less than 5 shows on I want to watch.. four of them at the same time |
| [20:39:00] | Coume: | eheh not bad, indeed I finaly bought some but have to wait the lenses... |
| [20:41:00] | Coume: | eheh still watching BB juski ;) |
| [20:41:00] | Juski: | yes.. can't get enough of the D_listers |
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| [20:42:00] | Coume: | eheh |
| [20:43:00] | ** stuarta goes to the corner to be sick... ** | |
| [20:43:00] | ** laga wonders if that was an euphemism for 'i'm gonna puke into that corner' ** | |
| [20:43:00] | stuarta: | all reality shows should be banned.... |
| [20:44:00] | Juski: | all reality should be banned |
| [20:44:00] | stuarta: | laga: yep. Could have said gone to ralph or chunder... |
| [20:44:00] | Coume: | stuarta, I was also wondering :) |
| [20:44:00] | ** stuarta offers juski a red pill and a yellow pill ** | |
| [20:45:00] | ** Juski takes both ** | |
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| [20:45:00] | stuarta: | I thought that was the least aussie thing I could say. |
| [20:45:00] | Coume: | stuarta, don't want to spare some of your blue pills to juski? |
| [20:45:00] | Coume: | ;) |
| [20:45:00] | stuarta: | may have eaten them all. |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | we saw the results of Tuesday's 'opinion gathering' meeting today (about the move)... most amusing.. or it would be if it wasn't happenning to us |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | "the overall reaction has been very negative" |
| [20:47:00] | Juski: | re-arrange these words into a well known saying ... "sherlock, shit, no" |
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| [20:48:00] | ** stuarta sings happy australia day to me. ** | |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | Juski: annoying |
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| [20:52:00] | Juski: | anyway.. time to watch some livetv or I'll miss a show.. recording the others |
| [20:53:00] | stuarta: | live tv? blimey... |
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| [20:54:00] | Juski: | need another tuner.... dunno how this KT600 chipset will go on with another though |
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| [20:55:00] | support_: | heya. I was looking at building a mythtv setup and have my heart set on using firewire for the video out from my cable box. I've got comcast digital cable (boston area), i'm wondering if anyone knows how I go about getting a cable box with firewire out? Actually mine might have it, I haven't checked yet.. |
| [20:55:00] | support_: | but, assuming it doesn't, can I buy one? do I have to ask Comcast for one? |
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| [20:56:00] | support_: | (firewire sounds like the bomb, HD support and also the signal is staying digital instead of going digital->analog->digital |
| [20:57:00] | metalac: | i thought all HD cards just dump the stream straight to the drive |
| [20:58:00] | xris: | metalac: pretty much |
| [20:58:00] | metalac: | so then firewire is not THAT big of a deal |
| [20:58:00] | metalac: | i mean you save on a card |
| [20:59:00] | xris: | metalac: right. but you can't GET hd cable without a firewire card |
| [20:59:00] | xris: | only the OTA channels are left unencrypted in QAM |
| [20:59:00] | metalac: | ohhhhh |
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| [21:00:00] | xris: | technically, firewire doesn't have to be HD, either. they're only required to output 480p, but I think it's cheaper for them to not have to resample/transcode the signal |
| [21:00:00] | support_: | so does anyone know what the deal is? should I call my cable provider and ask them to swap me out for a box that has firewire output? |
| [21:01:00] | metalac: | well you can always try :) |
| [21:01:00] | support_: | or is it possible to buy a third-party box, not from them? |
| [21:01:00] | xris: | support_: if you pay for HD content, they're supposed to provide you with a firewire-capable box on request. not necessarily for free, either. |
| [21:01:00] | support_: | xris: I don't want HD content, i don't think I pay for it |
| [21:01:00] | xris: | support_: then you're out of luck |
| [21:02:00] | support_: | xris: so you're saying the only way to get a firewire-capable box is to pay for HD content? |
| [21:02:00] | support_: | maybe we do |
| [21:02:00] | support_: | I'm really not sure |
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| [21:02:00] | support_: | this is Comcast |
| [21:02:00] | xris: | that's the only way that most cable providers will do it, since they're required to do so by fcc regulation |
| [21:02:00] | support_: | xris: what about buying my own cable box? |
| [21:02:00] | support_: | xris: or do they have to set it up |
| [21:03:00] | xris: | support_: I don't think you can do that anymore.. and if you can, it's expensive. |
| [21:03:00] | support_: | i guess i'll call comcast |
| [21:05:00] | xris: | support_: you have digital cable? |
| [21:06:00] | beavis: | stuarta: 8710 doesn't work |
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| [21:06:00] | stuarta: | I'd try 8703. |
| [21:06:00] | beavis: | I'm trying 8705 |
| [21:07:00] | beavis: | it's pretty fast with ccache |
| [21:07:00] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [21:08:00] | stuarta: | that may not work too well, see 8706 |
| [21:08:00] | beavis: | 2mins with a make clean |
| [21:08:00] | beavis: | stuarta: oh ok you're right :/ |
| [21:08:00] | stuarta: | :( |
| [21:09:00] | jams: | just as a point time warner will give you the HD box if you ask for it. And it will work with the local stations for no charge |
| [21:11:00] | beavis: | stuarta: what's the last working one? |
| [21:11:00] | stuarta: | 8702 |
| [21:11:00] | stuarta: | 8703 looks suspicius |
| [21:11:00] | stuarta: | suspicious even |
| [21:11:00] | beavis: | 8704 is broken |
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| [21:12:00] | metalac: | jams: time warner offers cable service? |
| [21:13:00] | jams: | yes |
| [21:13:00] | metalac: | which part of country? |
| [21:13:00] | jams: | midwest and east coast |
| [21:13:00] | metalac: | oh wow had no clue |
| [21:15:00] | jams: | decent service, but not outstanding |
| [21:16:00] | jams: | at least the call centers are local for most stuff |
| [21:16:00] | metalac: | my building has free cable included in HOD, so i'd hate to pay who knows how much to get digital service |
| [21:16:00] | metalac: | not india :) |
| [21:16:00] | beavis: | stuarta: Chutt: 8702 works and 8704 is broken |
| [21:17:00] | Chutt: | and 8703? |
| [21:17:00] | beavis: | just compiling |
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| [21:19:00] | support_: | hmm. on the phone with comcast. |
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| [21:20:00] | support_: | their first phone monkey didnt know what firewire was and refused to answer.. second one says it's an extra 5 bucks a month for HD |
| [21:21:00] | simcop2387: | jams: they're better than charter, i once got an angry indian man who was upset that the phone woke him up |
| [21:21:00] | alberink: | Hi guys... |
| [21:21:00] | beavis: | Chutt: stuarta: 8703 is broken too |
| [21:21:00] | alberink: | I'm in the process of re-building my MythTV setup after my HD crashed. |
| [21:21:00] | beavis: | Chutt: stuarta: so it's 8703 |
| [21:21:00] | simcop2387: | beavis: how many people on IRC make lame joke about fire and laugh in your prescense? |
| [21:22:00] | alberink: | I'm having a devil of a time trying to get my tuner to work again. |
| [21:23:00] | alberink: | Driver loads fine, initialization all seem to go great (judging from dmesg) but a cat /dev/vidoe0 > test.mpg yields a file of 0 bytes... |
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| [21:23:00] | alberink: | It's tuned to a channel with a known signal on it, listening to the right input.. |
| [21:23:00] | alberink: | Any ideas? |
| [21:23:00] | Chutt: | tell daniel |
| [21:24:00] | alberink: | ? |
| [21:24:00] | Chutt: | i'm not talking to you |
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| [21:24:00] | alberink: | OK |
| [21:25:00] | simcop2387: | alberink: what card and driver? |
| [21:26:00] | beavis: | Chutt: but it's strange, #8703 doesn't touch the deinterlacer :/ |
| [21:26:00] | alberink: | It's a Hauppage PVR-150 MCE, IVTV 0.4.2 |
| [21:26:00] | support_: | nice, bargained them down to 3 bucks/month and they say they'll turn on HD and give me a motorola DCT5100 with firewire output |
| [21:26:00] | Chutt: | nothing's touched the deinterlacer. |
| [21:28:00] | stuarta: | perhaps it's due to the ring buffer pause. ie. not feeding enough data |
| [21:29:00] | simcop2387: | alberink: sounds like the firmware isn't being loaded properly then |
| [21:29:00] | simcop2387: | or you have the wrong ones |
| [21:29:00] | ** simcop2387 has the same card ** | |
| [21:29:00] | metalac: | so is firewire able to only transfer HD content or the rest of the stuff also? |
| [21:30:00] | stuarta: | or I'm talking rubbish :) |
| [21:30:00] | beavis: | heh |
| [21:30:00] | alberink: | simcop2387: don't think so: I have the following lines in my logging |
| [21:30:00] | alberink: | cx25840 0–0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes) |
| [21:30:00] | alberink: | ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes) |
| [21:31:00] | simcop2387: | hmm my encoder firmware is 376836 bytes |
| [21:31:00] | simcop2387: | i've got the same card |
| [21:32:00] | simcop2387: | though mine are different names... |
| [21:32:00] | alberink: | simcop2387: firmware size on disk or the reported size in the logging? |
| [21:32:00] | alberink: | I'm on kernel 2.6.15, they changed names there... |
| [21:32:00] | simcop2387: | on disk |
| [21:32:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [21:32:00] | simcop2387: | i'm on 2.6.13 |
| [21:33:00] | simcop2387: | i don't know what it says in logs, dmesg has filled over |
| [21:33:00] | alberink: | simcop2387: hmmm, that shouldn't matter, namechange was done in the transition from 2.4 -> 2.6 kernel series |
| [21:33:00] | alberink: | simcop2387: what names do you have? |
| [21:34:00] | alberink: | size of these files on disk doesn't map 1-to-1 to the size in the logging. Apparently the disk-files have some padding in there as well. |
| [21:34:00] | simcop2387: | HcwFalcn.rom HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [21:34:00] | simcop2387: | hmm |
| [21:35:00] | alberink: | simcop2387: those are the old names, that's strange... |
| [21:36:00] | simcop2387: | i'm using ivtv 4.something i can't remember what let me look |
| [21:36:00] | alberink: | Do you have symlinks or something? |
| [21:36:00] | simcop2387: | 4.0 |
| [21:36:00] | alberink: | 4.0? |
| [21:36:00] | alberink: | or 0.4? |
| [21:36:00] | simcop2387: | er 0.4.0 |
| [21:37:00] | simcop2387: | the only symlink is to HcwFalcn.rom to ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
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| [21:38:00] | alberink: | Hmmm... |
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| [21:50:00] | scottder: | http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info. . . . p;pfp=BROWSE |
| [21:50:00] | scottder: | is that a good choice for an output card |
| [21:53:00] | swarm_: | is this an ivtv error or a myth config error? Channel(/dev/video0)::SetColourAttribute(): failed to set controls, error: No such device |
| [21:53:00] | laga: | would be better if you gave us the name of the card so we don't have to click. ;) |
| [21:53:00] | scottder: | for svideo |
| [21:53:00] | scottder: | 3D Fuzion GF MX4000 Video Card, 8x AGP 128MB DDR |
| [21:54:00] | swarm_: | use a fanless fx 5200 would be my choice |
| [21:56:00] | metalac: | yeah fx 5200 seem to be the cheap standard these days |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | metalac: nvidia has better linux drivers... and if all you're doing is tv out, you don't need much of a gpu |
| [21:57:00] | metalac: | xris: i know i just agreed with swarm_ :) |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | metalac: yeah, you were just the last name on the list to reply to. heh |
| [21:57:00] | metalac: | ahahaha |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | and my brain isn't working so well because I've been writing javascript all day, while being distracted by the pieces of new computer sitting behind me |
| [21:57:00] | kormoc: | I would honestly go with a 6200 fanless right now |
| [21:58:00] | kormoc: | it's not much more, and a nice boost in performance |
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| [21:59:00] | metalac: | yeah that would work too |
| [21:59:00] | ole_schoola: | kormoc: what's the state of XvMC with 6200 right now? just enable use_textures? |
| [21:59:00] | metalac: | fanless is the key :) |
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| [21:59:00] | kormoc: | ole_schoola, that's my understanding, aye |
| [21:59:00] | ole_schoola: | cool, might try one sitting here then |
| [22:00:00] | ole_schoola: | first, gotta get myth compile prereqs figerred out |
| [22:00:00] | kormoc: | ole_schoola, let me know if you do have issues, but afaik, it's all golden |
| [22:00:00] | ole_schoola: | missing libdts to enable DTS passthrough |
| [22:00:00] | scottder: | A 5200 with an Integrated Full Hardware MPEG-2 Decoder |
| [22:00:00] | scottder: | hmm |
| [22:00:00] | ole_schoola: | anyone know what provides it or should i build source from videolan's ftp site |
| [22:00:00] | metalac: | scottder: they all have that |
| [22:01:00] | metalac: | everything past 5200 and newer |
| [22:01:00] | scottder: | offer any advantage.... |
| [22:01:00] | metalac: | ummm yes |
| [22:01:00] | metalac: | offloads your cpu when it decodes mpeg2 |
| [22:01:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [22:02:00] | scottder: | Ok, so worth the $10 more it costs then |
| [22:02:00] | metalac: | so say you're recording and watching at the same time |
| [22:02:00] | kormoc: | scottder, as opposed to? |
| [22:02:00] | scottder: | only going to have a 1ghz processor in it |
| [22:02:00] | kormoc: | ole_schoola, http://www.videolan.org/dtsdec.html |
| [22:02:00] | scottder: | the MX4000 |
| [22:02:00] | metalac: | cpu will be free to do recording and is not preoccupied displaying your video |
| [22:02:00] | ole_schoola: | kormoc: ty, bbiab |
| [22:02:00] | xris: | of course, with a hardware encoder, the cpu is barely touched, anyway |
| [22:03:00] | kormoc: | scottder, ahh, yeah. tho, as I said, I'd recommend going a step up to the 6200 just for the nice boost, but I'm running a 5200 just fine |
| [22:03:00] | scottder: | Yeah this is going to be pretty basic.... |
| [22:03:00] | scottder: | so keeping cost low is good |
| [22:04:00] | ** xris stole kormoc's 5800.. well, "stole" for $50. ** | |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | soon, I'll have a 6600 PCI-E and the world will be mine! |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | yes |
| [22:05:00] | ** kormoc crackles with laughter! ** | |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | crackles? |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | http://www.google.com/search?num=25&hs=BM . . . ;btnG=Search |
| [22:07:00] | ** kormoc didn't think it quite ment that... ** | |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | hahaha |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | you may be thinking "cackles" |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
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| [22:16:00] | Kyler: | I finally figured out how to eliminate the flicker I've been getting occasionally from my PVR-250. I just have to run "ivtvctl --set-freq" with the current frequency. That seems to kick it in the head. |
| [22:17:00] | Kyler: | I tried making a script to do this when recording starts. I used it as the channel change command but that seemed to disable the regular tuning. (I'm not sure though.) |
| [22:17:00] | ole_schoola: | kormoc: ty again, freakin lawyers <grumble,grumble,grumble> |
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| [22:18:00] | ole_schoola: | now to get DVD playback enable |
| [22:18:00] | ole_schoola: | taking a deep breath before i dive back into .configure =) |
| [22:18:00] | Kyler: | I just got DVD playback working last night. |
| [22:18:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [22:18:00] | ole_schoola: | tell more! |
| [22:18:00] | kormoc: | np |
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| [22:19:00] | Kyler: | "mplayer --dvd-device /dev/dvd -fs -dvdnav" |
| [22:20:00] | scottder: | Only other thing I need is a wireless card.... |
| [22:20:00] | Kyler: | Ha! I *just* got a wireless USB dongle working. It's been sitting in the box here for months. |
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| [22:20:00] | ole_schoola: | kyler: oh i see — i'm trying to pickup playback while ./configure fro mythtv (read: hunting dependencies +) |
| [22:21:00] | Kyler: | I wasn't sure I was going to find a driver for this Belkin USB 802.11g stick but they GPLed the driver! Way cool. |
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| [22:21:00] | Esuirin: | hi |
| [22:22:00] | Esuirin: | i have myth frontend and backend running on desktop. i am on same network on laptop, and want to watch mythtv from it |
| [22:22:00] | Esuirin: | what all do i need to do on laptop to watch the tv card output from desktop? |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | run the frontend on the laptop |
| [22:22:00] | Kyler: | Esuirin: mythfrontend is all I think I needed. You'll need MySQL info for it to use. |
| [22:22:00] | Esuirin: | right |
| [22:23:00] | Esuirin: | so i don't need to do yum install mythtv-suite? |
| [22:23:00] | Kyler: | No, you shouldn't need everything. |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | if there's just a mythfrontend package, then no, else yes |
| [22:23:00] | Esuirin: | so maybe just yum install mythtv-frontend? |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | but usually, they are packaged together |
| [22:23:00] | Kyler: | (I use Debian but I do SVN compiles.) |
| [22:24:00] | Esuirin: | mythtv-frontend-0.18.1–117.rhfc4.at |
| [22:24:00] | scottder: | Kyler: what model? |
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| [22:24:00] | Esuirin: | should it be decent quality if it's over 54g network? |
| [22:25:00] | Kyler: | scottder: USB 802.11g model? It's a Belkin. I didn't find a model number but it's a Ralink chip. |
| [22:25:00] | Kyler: | This looks like it. http://www.compuplus.com/i-Belkin-F5D7050-Wir . . . froogle.html |
| [22:25:00] | scottder: | Hmmmm |
| [22:26:00] | Esuirin: | do you guys know for a spec file how you specify kernel version? |
| [22:26:00] | Kyler: | I'm looking forward to putting some of these USB sticks on my settop boxes. |
| [22:27:00] | Esuirin: | Name: shfs-module-$KERNEL |
| [22:27:00] | Esuirin: | apparently that is wrong |
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| [22:27:00] | scottder: | Kyler: cool local place sells that model...sweet |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | Esuirin: yeah. it's coded into the build args. |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | man rpmbuild, and search for --define |
| [22:30:00] | Esuirin: | ok, so i installed mythfrontend |
| [22:30:00] | Esuirin: | and the backend is running on "desktop" |
| [22:31:00] | Esuirin: | do i still need to do some kind of setup? |
| [22:31:00] | Esuirin: | i gives me a bunch of database errors xris |
| [22:31:00] | Esuirin: | do i need to create a mythconverg db for this local machine which will also run frontend? |
| [22:32:00] | Esuirin: | i can't use the myth tables on the backend machine? |
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| [22:32:00] | Esuirin: | oh wait |
| [22:32:00] | Esuirin: | i see |
| [22:32:00] | Esuirin: | ah shoot |
| [22:33:00] | Esuirin: | Database error was: |
| [22:33:00] | Esuirin: | Host 'laptop' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
| [22:33:00] | xris: | :) |
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| [22:34:00] | Esuirin: | xris, do i need to do anything aside from telling backend mysql server to accept connections from "laptop" |
| [22:34:00] | Esuirin: | actually, can't i limit it to just that db? |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | Esuirin: huh? |
| [22:35:00] | Esuirin: | xris, did you see the error my frontend had? |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | frontend needs to connect to the db and the master.. it should handle the rest on its own |
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| [22:35:00] | Esuirin: | xris, frontend does not need it's OWN mysql stuff, right? |
| [22:35:00] | Esuirin: | just connect to backend/master? |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | correct |
| [22:35:00] | Esuirin: | ok |
| [22:35:00] | Esuirin: | so i just need to tell mythconverg to allow connections from localhost and laptop? |
| [22:35:00] | Esuirin: | as laptop resolves to my local IP |
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| [22:36:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [22:37:00] | Esuirin: | xris, ever use webmin? |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | nope |
| [22:38:00] | Esuirin: | poopie, i am wondering how to specify multiple hosts |
| [22:38:00] | Esuirin: | localhost is in blank |
| [22:38:00] | ** xris is a cli junkie ** | |
| [22:38:00] | Esuirin: | i am wondering if i use , to separate |
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| [22:38:00] | xris: | specify where? |
| [22:38:00] | Esuirin: | using webmin to look at server mysql config |
| [22:38:00] | Esuirin: | for database perms for mythconverg |
| [22:38:00] | Esuirin: | need to allow localhost and laptop to connect |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'laptop' IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv'; |
| [22:38:00] | Esuirin: | oh ok |
| [22:38:00] | swarm_: | anyone know why this is negative?Reschedule requested for id -1. |
| [22:39:00] | Esuirin: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'laptop' IDENTIFIED BY 'myththtv'; |
| [22:39:00] | Esuirin: | ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' to database 'mythconverg' |
| [22:39:00] | swarm_: | got root? |
| [22:39:00] | Esuirin: | oh |
| [22:39:00] | Esuirin: | i can't do it as user mythtv, i guess |
| [22:40:00] | metalac: | Esuirin: read permission control for mysql |
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| [22:40:00] | metalac: | mainly GRANT PRIVILEGES command |
| [22:40:00] | Esuirin: | metalac, i can do it from webmin, issue the sql command |
| [22:40:00] | Esuirin: | i just don't remember my root pw |
| [22:40:00] | metalac: | well that can be a problem :) |
| [22:40:00] | swarm_: | you can clear the root password |
| [22:41:00] | swarm_: | its buried in the sql manual somewhere |
| [22:41:00] | Esuirin: | yeah, i remember |
| [22:41:00] | Esuirin: | it takes a while |
| [22:41:00] | swarm_: | been ther done that |
| [22:41:00] | Esuirin: | ;) |
| [22:41:00] | Esuirin: | i will eventually |
| [22:41:00] | Esuirin: | ok, no data returned |
| [22:41:00] | Esuirin: | hopefully that's uit |
| [22:41:00] | swarm_: | 2006-01–26 17:39:56.780 Channel(/dev/video0)::SetColourAttribute(): failed to set controls, error: No such device |
| [22:41:00] | swarm_: | anyone have any ideas on that one? |
| [22:41:00] | Esuirin: | oh looks like it's connecting:) |
| [22:43:00] | Esuirin: | err the mythbackend is running on this machine? |
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| [22:43:00] | Esuirin: | nm |
| [22:44:00] | Esuirin: | :( |
| [22:44:00] | Esuirin: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [22:44:00] | Esuirin: | Database error was: |
| [22:44:00] | Esuirin: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'laptop' (using password: YES) |
| [22:44:00] | Esuirin: | xris? |
| [22:44:00] | xris: | Esuirin: use the IP |
| [22:44:00] | Esuirin: | i issued the command you said |
| [22:44:00] | xris: | or put an entry in /etc/hosts |
| [22:45:00] | Esuirin: | it is in /etc/hosts |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | mythtv uses reverse lookup for some of ots stuff |
| [22:45:00] | Esuirin: | 192.168.0.100 desktop |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | oh, did you FLUSH PRIVILEGES? |
| [22:45:00] | Esuirin: | oh wait |
| [22:45:00] | Esuirin: | i need to put it in /etc/hosts on server? |
| [22:45:00] | Esuirin: | backend? or frontend? |
| [22:45:00] | Esuirin: | i think it's in both anyway |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | mysql is VERY picky about hostnames. |
| [22:45:00] | Esuirin: | both have it in /etc/hosts |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | I've had horrible luck getting it to keep things straight. easier to just use IP's |
| [22:46:00] | Esuirin: | ok, so i need to flush privs? |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | definitely need to flush privs |
| [22:46:00] | Esuirin: | can you do the same if you restart mysql server? |
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| [22:48:00] | xris: | restarting does the same as flushing |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | try using the IP |
| [22:48:00] | Esuirin: | ok, must have to |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | mysql is picky about hostnames because of a bunch of internal stuff to prevent against man-in-the-middle and dnshack attempts. |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | "dns hack" |
| [22:48:00] | Esuirin: | same problem:( |
| [22:49:00] | Esuirin: | or do you mean the ip for GRANT? |
| [22:49:00] | Esuirin: | desktop = 192.168.0.100 |
| [22:49:00] | Esuirin: | laptop = 192.168.0.101 |
| [22:49:00] | xris: | for the grant |
| [22:49:00] | Esuirin: | k |
| [22:49:00] | kormoc: | i just use 192.168.0.% for my grant |
| [22:50:00] | Esuirin: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'192.168.0.101' IDENTIFIED BY 'myththtv'; |
| [22:50:00] | Esuirin: | k |
| [22:50:00] | Esuirin: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'192.168.0.%' IDENTIFIED BY 'myththtv'; |
| [22:50:00] | Esuirin: | ? |
| [22:50:00] | Esuirin: | oh a misspelling |
| [22:50:00] | Esuirin: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@'192.168.0.%' IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv'; |
| [22:50:00] | Esuirin: | ? |
| [22:50:00] | swarm_: | is there an ivtv channel? |
| [22:51:00] | Esuirin: | ivtv-dev |
| [22:51:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, yeah, that will allow access to anyone on your local network (192.168.0.*) |
| [22:51:00] | Esuirin: | still no go:( |
| [22:51:00] | kormoc: | erm, that was to Esuirin |
| [22:51:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, ooh? |
| [22:51:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [22:51:00] | Esuirin: | mysql -h 192.168.0.100 -u mythtv -p |
| [22:51:00] | Esuirin: | Enter password: |
| [22:51:00] | Esuirin: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'laptop' (using password: YES) |
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| [22:52:00] | Esuirin: | err it still looked at laptop? |
| [22:52:00] | kormoc: | you sure you have mysql allowing non local connections? |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| [22:53:00] | Esuirin: | ok, what am i looking for? |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, make sure any lines like "skip-networking" or "bind-address = 127.0.0.1" are commented out |
| [22:54:00] | Esuirin: | http://pastebin.com/524775 |
| [22:55:00] | Esuirin: | it says databasemythconverg user mythtv and host 192.168.0.% |
| [22:56:00] | Esuirin: | this is retarded |
| [22:56:00] | Esuirin: | mythconverg mythtv laptop Select | Insert | Update | Delete | Create | Drop | References | Index | Alter |
| [22:56:00] | Esuirin: | mythconverg mythtv 192.168.0.% Select | Insert | Update | Delete | Create | Drop | References | Index | Alter |
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| [22:57:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, that's your entire mysqld section? |
| [22:57:00] | Esuirin: | no |
| [22:57:00] | Esuirin: | that's the two relevant entries from my mysql frontend browser |
| [22:57:00] | Esuirin: | ok, i jsut granted any host mythconverg perm |
| [22:57:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, put your entire my.cnf file up and I'll look at that |
| [22:58:00] | Esuirin: | i did |
| [22:58:00] | Esuirin: | http://pastebin.com/524775 |
| [22:58:00] | Esuirin: | sheesh, it is STILL having same error |
| [22:58:00] | Esuirin: | mysql -h 192.168.0.100 -u mythtv -p |
| [22:58:00] | Esuirin: | Enter password: |
| [22:58:00] | Esuirin: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'laptop' (using password: YES) |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | that can't be your entire my.cnf file |
| [22:58:00] | Esuirin: | it is:) |
| [22:58:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
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| [23:00:00] | Esuirin: | :( |
| [23:00:00] | Esuirin: | i just made a new host permission |
| [23:00:00] | swarm_: | any idea why ivtv would change channels etc... but when i cat /dev/videoX > test.mpg i get a 0 sized file? |
| [23:00:00] | Esuirin: | to give 192.168.0.% all access to mythconverg |
| [23:00:00] | Esuirin: | mysql -h 192.168.0.100 -u mythtv -p |
| [23:00:00] | Esuirin: | Enter password: |
| [23:00:00] | Esuirin: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'laptop' (using password: YES) |
| [23:00:00] | Esuirin: | still get that:( |
| [23:00:00] | swarm_: | im sure its an ivtv problem |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | Esuirin: what's the pastbin thing about? |
| [23:01:00] | Esuirin: | that's the contents of my.cnf |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | the grant is in my.cnf? |
| [23:01:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, did you really strip it down that far? |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | kormoc: it's blank in some distros |
| [23:01:00] | Esuirin: | i think i created ita while back |
| [23:01:00] | kormoc: | ahh, that's sucky |
| [23:01:00] | Esuirin: | xris, all there is is what you se |
| [23:01:00] | Esuirin: | see |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | Esuirin: is the grant in the my.cnf? |
| [23:02:00] | Esuirin: | NoUse, i issued a mysql command for that |
| [23:02:00] | Esuirin: | oh woops |
| [23:02:00] | Esuirin: | NoUse, it's not |
| [23:02:00] | Esuirin: | http://pastebin.com/524791 |
| [23:02:00] | xris: | ok, just wanted to verify that... looked like a jumbled copy/paste on that. |
| [23:02:00] | Esuirin: | ok, i got it working |
| [23:03:00] | xris: | your my.cnf looks fine (dunno what's up with the skip-innodb) |
| [23:03:00] | Esuirin: | #192.168.0.101 laptop |
| [23:03:00] | Esuirin: | why did i have to comment that out on desktop? |
| [23:03:00] | Esuirin: | in /etc/hosts |
| [23:03:00] | xris: | Esuirin: has to do with mysql's anti-hacking and host lookups |
| [23:03:00] | xris: | it's a PITA |
| [23:03:00] | kormoc: | xris, so it doesn't start the innodb engine, less memory usage and faster startup times |
| [23:03:00] | Esuirin: | is there any way i can give my laptop a hostname? |
| [23:04:00] | xris: | Esuirin: hosts entry shouldn't matter. could be that you need to re-issue the grant command once with the ip and once with the name |
| [23:04:00] | xris: | that should cover it. |
| [23:04:00] | Esuirin: | i think i had done that:O |
| [23:04:00] | Esuirin: | i am pretty sure i did, actually |
| [23:04:00] | xris: | well, won't hurt to do it again |
| [23:05:00] | Esuirin: | i mean, i don't think that fixed it:O |
| [23:05:00] | Esuirin: | does not having lirc on this machine slow down myth from loading? |
| [23:05:00] | Esuirin: | pre-scaling themes takes forever:O |
| [23:05:00] | kormoc: | Esuirin, no |
| [23:05:00] | kormoc: | they are unrelated |
| [23:06:00] | Esuirin: | to use alsa, what do i put as audio putput device again? |
| [23:06:00] | Esuirin: | audio output |
| [23:06:00] | kormoc: | alsa: default |
| [23:06:00] | Esuirin: | and what for mixer device? |
| [23:06:00] | kormoc: | I just disabled myth's mixer |
| [23:07:00] | kormoc: | I control it from external |
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| [23:07:00] | Esuirin: | hmm, it can't connect to backend server |
| [23:07:00] | Esuirin: | where do i tell it where that is located? |
| [23:07:00] | kormoc: | the db tells it where it's located. to change what the db says, use mythtv-setup |
| [23:08:00] | Esuirin: | ohhhhhh |
| [23:08:00] | Esuirin: | that could be a problem |
| [23:08:00] | Esuirin: | on the machine i usually use |
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| [23:08:00] | Esuirin: | it's localhost |
| [23:08:00] | Esuirin: | so i need to put local ip? |
| [23:08:00] | Esuirin: | like 192.168.0.100? |
| [23:08:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [23:08:00] | Esuirin: | k |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | Esuirin: or "desktop" |
| [23:09:00] | ole_schoola: | ./configure indicates ccache=no, i thought default was =on and should I care? not using distcc |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | ole_schoola: ccache has little to do with distcc |
| [23:10:00] | ole_schoola: | check |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | if you have ccache installed, it should work.. otherwise, no. |
| [23:10:00] | ole_schoola: | ..but should it not be =yes by deafault? |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | but it won't matter |
| [23:10:00] | ole_schoola: | how not? |
| [23:10:00] | kormoc: | ccache emulates gcc |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | ccache only helps when recompiling stuff |
| [23:11:00] | ole_schoola: | ok, but i expect to be recompiling =) |
| [23:11:00] | kormoc: | so even if it's not isntalled, and it thinks it is, it will just compile using gcc and nothings the matter |
| [23:11:00] | Esuirin: | got it |
| [23:11:00] | ole_schoola: | figured as much, thanks |
| [23:11:00] | ole_schoola: | IANAP so it's learn as i go |
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| [23:12:00] | ole_schoola: | make is happily purring away |
| [23:13:00] | ole_schoola: | ...prolly adding to room temp as well |
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| [23:13:00] | Esuirin: | eerrr |
| [23:13:00] | Esuirin: | why is it still looking at 127.0.0.1 for backend? |
| [23:13:00] | Esuirin: | or do i have to, on THIS machine, run mythtv-setup? |
| [23:14:00] | Esuirin: | NoUse, it's not on this machine:O |
| [23:14:00] | kormoc: | couldn't hurt |
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| [23:14:00] | Esuirin: | why is this machine's frontend still looking at mythtv-backend on 127.0.0.1? |
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| [23:14:00] | xris: | Esuirin: you rerun -setup? |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | restart the backend? |
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| [23:14:00] | Esuirin: | on host, yes, and restarted |
| [23:16:00] | kormoc: | rerun setup and make sure it's not 127.0.0.1 |
| [23:16:00] | Esuirin: | 2006-01–26 17:16:02.425 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [23:16:00] | Esuirin: | Connection timed out. |
| [23:16:00] | Esuirin: | mythtvsetup, right, on the HOST Machine, right?> |
| [23:16:00] | Esuirin: | because this client doesn't have mythtvsetup |
| [23:16:00] | kormoc: | sure, that'd be fine |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | Esuirin: you need mythtv-setup on all machines |
| [23:17:00] | Esuirin: | woopsie |
| [23:18:00] | Esuirin: | i had changed home ip |
| [23:18:00] | Esuirin: | not master servier ip |
| [23:18:00] | Esuirin: | trying to watch livetv now:O |
| [23:18:00] | Esuirin: | 2006-01–26 17:18:26.131 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [23:18:00] | Esuirin: | :O |
| [23:19:00] | kormoc: | they need to be the same version |
| [23:19:00] | Esuirin: | i thought they were |
| [23:19:00] | kormoc: | evendently not |
| [23:19:00] | Esuirin: | this happened before when i first downloaded |
| [23:20:00] | Esuirin is now known as Ediehow | |
| [23:20:00] | Ediehow: | ;) |
| [23:20:00] | ole_schoola: | it's a settings error, mythproto is generic message |
| [23:20:00] | Ediehow: | i think i fixed it as it was a database error |
| [23:20:00] | ole_schoola: | check Kulagowski doc, wait amin.... |
| [23:21:00] | kormoc: | ole_schoola, actually, that's the error message when the protocal version the backend sends out is different then the one the frontend expects... |
| [23:21:00] | ole_schoola: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc5.4 |
| [23:21:00] | ole_schoola: | kormoc: wait one, finding reference.... |
| [23:22:00] | Ediehow: | what ris the name of xris' optimize script again? |
| [23:22:00] | Ediehow: | optimize_mythdb.pl |
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| [23:23:00] | ole_schoola: | i have repair_optimize.pl but could be old |
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| [23:23:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-01–26 17:23:38.118 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [23:23:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-01–26 17:23:38.119 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [23:23:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-01–26 17:23:39.121 Changing from None to None |
| [23:23:00] | Ediehow: | :( |
| [23:23:00] | Ediehow: | get that trying to watch tv on this side |
| [23:24:00] | Ediehow: | bbiab |
| [23:24:00] | ** Ediehow is away: nap ** | |
| [23:24:00] | ole_schoola: | Esuiren: follow above link and near the end of the entry is frontend only info |
| [23:25:00] | ole_schoola: | Esuiren: i believe the proto error goes away after completing above |
| [23:27:00] | Ediehow: | let me try |
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| [23:29:00] | Ediehow: | ole_schoola, |
| [23:30:00] | Ediehow: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc5.4 |
| [23:30:00] | Ediehow: | ? |
| [23:30:00] | Ediehow: | where are you talking about? |
| [23:31:00] | Ediehow: | ole_schoola, ? |
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| [23:32:00] | Ediehow: | ....... |
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| [23:33:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-01–26 17:32:50.700 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [23:33:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-01–26 17:32:50.700 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [23:33:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-01–26 17:32:51.702 Changing from None to None |
| [23:33:00] | Ediehow: | still getting that on mythtv |
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| [23:35:00] | Ediehow: | NOTE: If you modify the 127.0.0.1 address and use a "real" IP address, you must use real IP addresses in both fields, otherwise your frontend machines will generate "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION" errors. |
| [23:35:00] | Ediehow: | ah |
| [23:35:00] | angryelf: | is it possible to have myth re-markup old recordings?? |
| [23:35:00] | ole_schoola: | Ediehow: that was it :) |
| [23:36:00] | ole_schoola: | yes, try mythcommflag --help |
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| [23:36:00] | Ediehow: | it can't open alsa:default? |
| [23:37:00] | Ediehow: | alsa:default: No such file or directory |
| [23:37:00] | Ediehow: | ? |
| [23:37:00] | ole_schoola: | make sure current user has .asoundrc in homedir |
| [23:37:00] | Ediehow: | does not |
| [23:37:00] | Ediehow: | touch .asoundrc? |
| [23:37:00] | ole_schoola: | or rather, the user myth runs at |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | $ cat > ~/.asoundrc |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | pcm.emu10k1 { |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | type hw |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | card 0 |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | } |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | ctl.emu10k1 { |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | type hw |
| [23:38:00] | ole_schoola: | card 0 |
| [23:39:00] | ole_schoola: | } |
| [23:39:00] | ole_schoola: | crap, didn't meant to do it quite like that |
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| [23:39:00] | ole_schoola: | replace emu10k1 with intel8x0 or whatever works for your soundcard |
| [23:40:00] | ole_schoola: | i've had cmipci is an older system |
| [23:40:00] | Ediehow: | snd_ali5451 |
| [23:41:00] | ole_schoola: | then replace emu10k1 with just ali5451 in both places of your new .asoundrc and should be good |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | pcm.ali5451 { |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | type hw |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | card 0 |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | } |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | ctl.ali5451 { |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | type hw |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | card 0 |
| [23:41:00] | Juski: | jees.. I've made a logo 1 meter across by 30cm high at 300dpi... got 1.5GB RAM in my machine & it's not enough :-/ |
| [23:41:00] | Ediehow: | } |
| [23:42:00] | ole_schoola: | let 'er rip Ediehow |
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| [23:49:00] | Ediehow: | ok, alsa works now |
| [23:49:00] | Ediehow: | for some strange reason these speakers that i plugged in only play myth through one of them:O |
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