| Sunday, January 22nd, 2006, 00:04 UTC | ||
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| [00:05:00] | sPiN-: | fellas, what should my record resolution be? it was at 480x480 by default and that doesnt make any sense |
| [00:05:00] | sPiN-: | i put it upto 640x480, it is NTSC |
| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | 480x480 works well, as would 720x480 |
| [00:06:00] | sPiN-: | really? that doesnt seem right, it is a 4:3 display why wouldnt it be 640x480? |
| [00:08:00] | kormoc: | on mine, it adds black bars |
| [00:08:00] | kormoc: | NTSC is 648 x 486 anyway |
| [00:09:00] | Nichotin: | what res is pal? 720x480? |
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| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | 720 x 486 |
| [00:09:00] | juski: | is it? I thought NTSC was 720x480 |
| [00:09:00] | juski: | PAL is 720x576 |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | juski, that's NTSC D-1 |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | juski, that's PAL D-1 |
| [00:09:00] | Nichotin: | uhm |
| [00:09:00] | juski: | ah |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | http://www.strata.com/support/3dmanual/ch13/ch13_7.html |
| [00:10:00] | Nichotin: | what is pal d-1? |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | "The D-1 pixels used in the PAL format are displayed using a horizontal axis. This format uses the same standard frame aspect ratio as the PAL format. Unlike the PAL format, the D-1 PAL uses a 720 by 576 resolution." |
| [00:10:00] | sPiN-: | so why would it record 480x480, that is a 1:1 ratio instead of 4:3? |
| [00:10:00] | jvs: | 720x576 is resolution my pvr-250 cannot handle |
| [00:11:00] | juski: | ? |
| [00:11:00] | dasOp: | all about the horizontal res |
| [00:11:00] | juski: | my pvr150 handles 720x576 just fine |
| [00:11:00] | jvs: | strange |
| [00:11:00] | Nichotin: | ok, I have pvr350 |
| [00:11:00] | juski: | looks way better than 480x480 that's for sure |
| [00:11:00] | Nichotin: | I guess 720x576 should work |
| [00:11:00] | jvs: | I get about 3 seconds, stuttering, and then it dies |
| [00:11:00] | juski: | and doesn't take up much more space, somewhat confusingly |
| [00:12:00] | meushi: | good night |
| [00:12:00] | juski: | but I guess the filesize is all about bitrate |
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| [00:12:00] | juski: | night meuishi |
| [00:12:00] | jvs: | I use the next lower now |
| [00:12:00] | jvs: | 720x526 or smthg like that |
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| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | I record at 480x360, but used to record at 480x480 just fine |
| [00:14:00] | inkypinky: | n00b here!! I am trying to invoke mythv-backend daemon and i keep getting autentication errors any pointers where can I start troubleshooting. I ran mythtv-seup configured everything and ran mythfilldatabase too but not abe to start up the backend |
| [00:15:00] | scottder: | Anyone here using the Hauppauge PV%-150? |
| [00:15:00] | scottder: | PVR-150 |
| [00:15:00] | sPiN-: | scottder: yep |
| [00:15:00] | Nichotin: | ok, I set it to 720x576, hope this works |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | inkypinky, most authentication errors are meaningless, can you copy and paste the entire thing? |
| [00:15:00] | juski: | yep |
| [00:15:00] | alpha255: | 250 here |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | m179 here |
| [00:15:00] | sPiN-: | i setup my to 740x480 |
| [00:15:00] | sPiN-: | seems ok but makes no sense |
| [00:15:00] | inkypinky: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [00:15:00] | inkypinky: | /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log: Permission denied |
| [00:15:00] | inkypinky: | Error opening logfile |
| [00:15:00] | scottder: | I am starting with a pretty basic setup |
| [00:15:00] | scottder: | any downside to the 150? |
| [00:15:00] | alpha255: | better on cost |
| [00:15:00] | juski: | it can only capture one input at a time |
| [00:15:00] | alpha255: | newer card |
| [00:15:00] | sPiN-: | scottder: if you got the remote be sure you have ivtv .4.2 |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed can be ignored |
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| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | /var/log/mythtv needs to be read/writabel by the mythtv user |
| [00:16:00] | alpha255: | juski, can 2/350 caputure two inputs? |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | inkypinky, what distro? |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | alpha255, no, only the 500 can |
| [00:16:00] | scottder: | sPiN-: are you referring to the package that includes the remote? |
| [00:17:00] | inkypinky: | kormoc, debian testing. lemme check the permission on that log file |
| [00:17:00] | Nichotin: | you guys know the thumbnails in mythweb? how can I make them be captured somewhere else in the recording? I mean, it seems to always pick a frame right before the show actually starts |
| [00:17:00] | sPiN-: | ivtv is the driver used for video playback, but it has some other stuff too |
| [00:17:00] | alpha255: | i thought the 150 had some chips combined to make it cheaper than the 250 |
| [00:17:00] | scottder: | wasn't sure what I was going to do remote-wise |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | Nichotin, there's a setting in mythfrontend somewhere the defines it to 64 seconds or so |
| [00:17:00] | scottder: | trying to do this as cheaply as I can :) |
| [00:17:00] | Nichotin: | ah |
| [00:18:00] | Vantage__: | anyone know how to specify an ati card to use either s-video or composite output instead of the monitor? |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | alpha255, yes, it uses one chip to do it all, but still only one stream |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | Vantage__, read the ati driver manual |
| [00:18:00] | alpha255: | k |
| [00:18:00] | alpha255: | the 500 has two tuners right? |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | correct |
| [00:18:00] | juski: | two tuners and 2 mpeg encoders |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | the 500 is two 150's on a single card |
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| [00:18:00] | juski: | so you can record 2 things at the same time on the same card |
| [00:19:00] | Nichotin: | kormoc: unf, cannot seem to find it |
| [00:19:00] | scottder: | that reminds me ...I'll need something with s-vid output too |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | Nichotin, you need to mkdir /var/log/mythtv and make that directory read/write by the mythtv user |
| [00:19:00] | alpha255: | pip! |
| [00:19:00] | alpha255: | picture in picture ? |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [00:19:00] | Nichotin: | Nichotin: I was talking about the thumbnail stuff |
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| [00:22:00] | kormoc: | Nichotin, ooh, it's in there somewhere |
| [00:22:00] | kormoc: | it might be in mythtv-setup tho |
| [00:22:00] | scottder: | sPiN-: what are you using for a remote? |
| [00:22:00] | Nichotin: | kormoc: can mythtv-setup be run with the backend still running? |
| [00:22:00] | sPiN-: | the one that came with my 150 |
| [00:23:00] | Vantage__: | kormoc: ok, I did and it didn't say. Any thoughts? |
| [00:23:00] | scottder: | Ah... |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | Nichotin, sure, it throws a warning |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | Vantage__, it does say |
| [00:23:00] | sPiN-: | ohhh man i change the livetv record settings to 720x480, it looks muuuch better! |
| [00:24:00] | sPiN-: | could of issues with the remote ive had is i dont know what to set all the buttons too |
| [00:25:00] | Vantage__: | kormoc: Not the manual I have. It's a directory called user-manual and has one page in it. index.html. The page contains only the list of cards it works for and the system requirements. Do you have another document that contains the relevent info? |
| [00:25:00] | sPiN-: | like when i press the videos button id like it to go to the videos module of mth, and when i hit music, id like it to just to the listen to music module |
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| [00:25:00] | sPiN-: | anyone know how to do this? |
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| [00:26:00] | kormoc: | Vantage__, there's a util somewhere that it talks about that can help with it |
| [00:26:00] | ** nanoITX is chatting from his nano-ITX in an Silverstone LC08 case! ** | |
| [00:26:00] | kormoc: | Vantage__, I've done it one, and I had docs from ati about it, so I know it's out there |
| [00:26:00] | nanoITX: | All I need to do is build myth for it, using the CN400 for MPEG2 decoding. |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | sPiN-: jump point editor in mythweb's key settings. |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | dunno where in the frontend. |
| [00:26:00] | Vantage__: | kormoc: were the docs online somewhere or did it come with the driver? I can't seem to find anything useful that came with the driver itself... |
| [00:27:00] | juski: | nanoITX: nice... they got mpeg4 decoding going yet? |
| [00:27:00] | nanoITX: | juski: dunno... I'd be happy with HD MPEG2 in H/W |
| [00:27:00] | nanoITX: | the only sucky thing is that the damn thing still needs a small fan. |
| [00:28:00] | nanoITX: | I tried running it without one and it got to 70C with the CPU loaded before I stopped the torture. |
| [00:28:00] | juski: | small heatsink with a small fan more or less equals bigger heatsink with no fan |
| [00:28:00] | sPiN-: | xris: so like bind it to an un configed key on the keyboard then point set the config= to that key in the lircrc file eh? |
| [00:28:00] | juski: | or bigger heatsink & huge, slow, silent fan ;-) |
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| [00:28:00] | nanoITX: | the heatsink is already huge on the damn thing. I heatpipe would be perfect for this — with the big alluminum top of the case |
| [00:29:00] | xris: | sPiN-: yup. dunno how to do it with the direct lirc interaction (rather than using lirc as a keyboard type event sender) |
| [00:29:00] | nanoITX: | still beats a PC by miles, though. |
| [00:29:00] | juski: | nanoITX: so it needs a bigger fan then |
| [00:29:00] | nanoITX: | can't... it has an integrated fansink |
| [00:29:00] | sPiN-: | well i will give ti a try, thanks! |
| [00:29:00] | nanoITX: | heatpipe is the way to go. |
| [00:29:00] | nanoITX: | still.. it's about 18–20 dbA |
| [00:29:00] | juski: | so you can buy these things now? |
| [00:29:00] | nanoITX: | yup |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | where from? |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | and how much, more importantly ;) |
| [00:30:00] | sPiN-: | does anyone know anything about this error i get saying that it was unable to 'get color key color' |
| [00:30:00] | nanoITX: | gott check my invoice. about $400 with 512MB RAM |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | 18–20dBA.. that should be un-noticeable in a livingroom, but that's what they said about my M10k board |
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| [00:31:00] | nanoITX: | damn... gotta go... but I will be back later. |
| [00:31:00] | juski: | and I used to be a club DJ so it's not like I can hear pins drop |
| [00:32:00] | Nichotin: | humf, what does it take to get color when using the svideo output on a epia-m? |
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| [00:32:00] | Nichotin: | composite looks like shit |
| [00:34:00] | inkypinky: | the mythtv backend only starts when I do a ' sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start ' while logged in as the user mythtv. I want it to launch during system startup startup – is this so by design or can that be modified |
| [00:34:00] | alpha255: | inkypinky, chkconfig is your friend |
| [00:34:00] | alpha255: | if you are on fedora/redhat |
| [00:34:00] | inkypinky: | me on debian testing |
| [00:35:00] | alpha255: | init scripts then |
| [00:35:00] | alpha255: | there should be a gui for starting services |
| [00:35:00] | juski: | Nichotin: an xorg.conf with the right bits in, of course ;-) |
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| [00:35:00] | alpha255: | inkypinky, you running gnome? |
| [00:35:00] | inkypinky: | the case is that it refuses to launch even from a su login |
| [00:35:00] | inkypinky: | yes indeed I am running gnome |
| [00:36:00] | alpha255: | look under the desktop pull down menu |
| [00:36:00] | alpha255: | system settings |
| [00:36:00] | juski: | Nichotin: www.juski.co.uk/xorg.conf |
| [00:36:00] | alpha255: | I'm thinking taht would be the place for a gui entry to set services to start automatically |
| [00:37:00] | inkypinky: | I already have the service at the correct runlevel with the proper symlinks the problem is that it wont start as the root user |
| [00:38:00] | inkypinky: | only when I login as mythtva nd so a sudo that the service starts |
| [00:38:00] | alpha255: | juski, did you do that theme? |
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| [00:39:00] | juski: | alpha255: yup |
| [00:39:00] | juski: | gonna give the new version a damn good testing shortly |
| [00:40:00] | juski: | little taste of the future: http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend3.png |
| [00:41:00] | juski: | and http://www.juski.co.uk/pg.png |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | Vantage__, online I beleive |
| [00:41:00] | alpha255: | nice!! :) |
| [00:41:00] | juski: | cheers |
| [00:41:00] | alpha255: | i'm pretty stoked about mythtv... I have the tv, gui, remote, audio all working |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | commerical flagging for the win! |
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| [00:42:00] | juski: | I missed a recording tonight for the 1st time in ages.. I just blindly set it up & didn't realise there was a conflict until it failed to record |
| [00:43:00] | juski: | I was using all 3 of my tuners at the same time |
| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | better get 3 pvr 500's |
| [00:43:00] | scottder: | that's a sign you watch WAY too much TV :) |
| [00:43:00] | juski: | so when I'm done testing this (other) box, it's gonna get another one |
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| [00:44:00] | juski: | kormoc: I have one analogue tuner & two DVB-T... not buying another analogue |
| [00:44:00] | nanoITX: | Sorry 'bout that... my KVM is acting up |
| [00:44:00] | nanoITX: | anyway on wher I got the nanoITX: http://www.digitalww.com |
| [00:44:00] | nanoITX: | US$400 |
| [00:44:00] | nanoITX: | another $60 for 512 MB RAM |
| [00:45:00] | nanoITX: | I got the board around July 2005 |
| [00:45:00] | nanoITX: | On the LC08 case... there wre TWO VERSIONS: Via changed the mobo at the last minute and Silverstone had to retool the case to accomodate a fan vent on the top (they orriginally included a heatblock) |
| [00:46:00] | nanoITX: | The new case, from Silverstone is US$132. Add a slimline DVDRW and 500 GB disk, and your up to almost $1000 |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | meh |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | I perfer $200 for a myth shuttle sized box |
| [00:46:00] | juski: | nanoITX: that fan could do with being twice the size |
| [00:47:00] | nanoITX: | There are few if any new LC08 cases in the US: they're on a slow boat from Taiwan — I got mine by begging and pleading to purchase the show demo case — Silverstone USA let me have it for $60. |
| [00:47:00] | juski: | use a speed controller on it & quieten it down a bit |
| [00:47:00] | nanoITX: | I was expecting it to be scratched a bit bit it's fine. |
| [00:47:00] | juski: | I've got an LC02 case & I'm not impressed with Silverstone at all |
| [00:47:00] | juski: | very expensive for what it is |
| [00:48:00] | nanoITX: | When via decided to accomodate the Luke processor and CN400, they had to rotate and change tghe power connector in the corner so all the back panel stuff got moved. |
| [00:48:00] | nanoITX: | Yeah, it's expensive, but here's where it beats the Shuttle: CN400 H/W MPEG2 decoding. |
| [00:48:00] | nanoITX: | There are some mini-ITX boards that have that, but they tend to have a VT1623 SD YPbPr encoder instead of a VT1625. |
| [00:49:00] | juski: | that board is about 5 inches square :-) |
| [00:49:00] | nanoITX: | yup |
| [00:49:00] | nanoITX: | 12 cm |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, hardware mpeg2 decoding via my nvidia card, hdtv even :) |
| [00:49:00] | juski: | actually how much smaller than mini-itx is that? |
| [00:49:00] | juski: | can't be that much smaller |
| [00:49:00] | nanoITX: | I took a bunch of picks (but with a lousy camera) as I built the thing... I can post them some time soon |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | juski, about 2 inches on a side |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | iirc |
| [00:49:00] | nanoITX: | mini-ITX is 17cm x 17 cm. |
| [00:50:00] | nanoITX: | kurmoc: on a nanoITX or miniITX? nanoITX only has CPCI slot. |
| [00:50:00] | juski: | I took my EPIA board into work to show it off... everyone had a damn good gawp at it ;) |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, miniITX |
| [00:50:00] | Nichotin: | juski: wow, what a great config.. picture scewed a bit left with 720x576 though, any way to fix that? |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, I went with a slightly larger, way cheaper solution :) |
| [00:50:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: is it fanless? |
| [00:51:00] | Nichotin: | kormoc: only difference I made on mine was that I set it to 24bit |
| [00:51:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, two large, slow fans, quite quiet |
| [00:51:00] | juski: | Nichotin: adjust the GUI settings in the Appearance menu of mythtv-setup |
| [00:51:00] | juski: | PITA to do, but you only need do it once ;) |
| [00:51:00] | nanoITX: | Cheaper? Lesse, take off the RAM, DVDRW. and disk, and it's $400 for the mobo, and $132 for the case. One could use a less expensive case. |
| [00:51:00] | nanoITX: | gotta go. |
| [00:51:00] | nanoITX: | bbaib |
| [00:52:00] | Nichotin: | juski: which is your tv? "TV-PAL" or "PAL TV"? |
| [00:52:00] | juski: | erm... dunno |
| [00:52:00] | juski: | can't remember – so long since I set it up |
| [00:52:00] | Nichotin: | :D |
| [00:53:00] | juski: | TV-PAL judging by my xorg.conf |
| [00:53:00] | Nichotin: | tv-pal is the one |
| [00:53:00] | Nichotin: | yeah |
| [00:53:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, mine was $200 for Mobo, 2.13 ghz celeron D, and ram |
| [00:53:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, as well as case |
| [00:53:00] | juski: | Nichotin: is the TV out filling the screen? |
| [00:53:00] | Nichotin: | juski: seems to be a huge list of funky via options |
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| [00:53:00] | Nichotin: | the tv is filling the screen |
| [00:53:00] | juski: | cool |
| [00:54:00] | Nichotin: | the image is a bit darker now, I think |
| [00:54:00] | juski: | be nicer if there was a control for centring etc |
| [00:54:00] | Nichotin: | yeah |
| [00:54:00] | cosmo_: | How do I have the system launch an app as a particular user on bootup? I always assumed that the system just ran apps as root out of local, but evidently thats not the case |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, mine was slightly under $400 total for everything |
| [00:54:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [00:54:00] | Nichotin: | what options in the xorg.conf can scew the picture a bit? |
| [00:55:00] | juski: | Nichotin: you'd be entering into modeline territory there |
| [00:55:00] | juski: | see if you have any joy with xvidtune though |
| [00:55:00] | juski: | but be careful you don't lose your desktop ;) |
| [00:56:00] | Nichotin: | still b&w with s-video, though |
| [00:56:00] | Nichotin: | composite will have to do for now |
| [00:57:00] | juski: | hmmm |
| [00:57:00] | juski: | what PAL standard are you? where do you live? |
| [00:58:00] | Nichotin: | norway |
| [00:59:00] | juski: | oh wait.. works fine in composite... so maybe it's not that |
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| [01:00:00] | juski: | using an svideo to svideo lead or svideo to SCART? |
| [01:02:00] | Nichotin: | svideo to scart |
| [01:02:00] | juski: | does the lead work with other things? like a DVD player? |
| [01:03:00] | juski: | oh wait.. there might even be a BIOS setting for that too.. worth having a look |
| [01:03:00] | Nichotin: | what you mean? the scart on my tv works fine with composite on the epia, and a ps2 |
| [01:03:00] | Nichotin: | I have checked the bios stuff |
| [01:04:00] | Nichotin: | composite looks just fine with those funky via options, only thing is, the picture is pretty good with 640x480, but scewed with 720x576 |
| [01:05:00] | juski: | Nichotin: I mean.. does the svideo end of the lead work with other stuff that has svideo? |
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| [01:05:00] | juski: | Nichotin: stick with 640x480 then ;) |
| [01:07:00] | Nichotin: | I don't get what you mean with lead.. |
| [01:07:00] | Nichotin: | ah |
| [01:07:00] | Nichotin: | you mean the svideo connector |
| [01:07:00] | Nichotin: | havent tried it with anything else |
| [01:07:00] | Kelerion: | hey juski |
| [01:07:00] | Nichotin: | I think it was a plug that came with some video card, that just fit with the epia as well |
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| [01:08:00] | Kelerion: | juski: you know you put an example animated png together for the new myth? |
| [01:09:00] | Kelerion: | new theme.. I mean |
| [01:10:00] | juski: | Kelerion: that was just a tester |
| [01:10:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | iMedia embedded MythTV instantly reboots on loading the kernel – any ideas ? |
| [01:10:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. I know.. had another idea that might be interesting |
| [01:10:00] | juski: | btw Kelerion: www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend2.png |
| [01:11:00] | juski: | fire away with ideas though, K ;) |
| [01:11:00] | scottder: | oooh cool |
| [01:11:00] | scottder: | Is there a good site for MythTV themes? |
| [01:11:00] | darkfire: | I have a vt6420 VIA SATA controller, and I can't get DMA to enable on it. when I do "hd_parm -d1 /dev/sata", it errors with "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" i've googled for it, and I can't find anything that seems to help. i have sata_via compiled in the kernel. any thoughts? |
| [01:11:00] | Kelerion: | oh – I like that |
| [01:11:00] | Kelerion: | that lends itself even more to my thought |
| [01:11:00] | juski: | darkfire: DMA comes as standard with SATA iirc |
| [01:11:00] | darkfire: | (this is with 2.6.13-gentoo-r5) |
| [01:12:00] | juski: | Kelerion: your thought being? (make the UI look like something?) |
| [01:12:00] | kormoc: | DarkBeer, juski is correct |
| [01:12:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. I installed MCE today (gasp!) and saw something I thought looked really nice |
| [01:12:00] | kormoc: | erm, that was to darkfire |
| [01:12:00] | kormoc: | darkfire, is your drive slow or something? |
| [01:12:00] | darkfire: | juski, well, I was having the issue with live tv viewing in myth, which i had before when dma was off |
| [01:13:00] | Kelerion: | I had to reinstall myth on that box anyways so thought I'd try MCE and see what all the hype was about |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | darkfire, hdparm -t /dev/sata |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | darkfire, how fast does it say the drive is? |
| [01:13:00] | darkfire: | Timing buffered disk reads: 162 MB in 3.03 seconds = 53.50 MB/sec |
| [01:13:00] | juski: | so come on Kelerion spit it out... |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | that is plenty fast for anything myth related |
| [01:14:00] | Kelerion: | in the background to mce's menu there is a *very* *very* subtle animation it's almost like clouds moving across the black background.. |
| [01:14:00] | Kelerion: | and it isn't distracting at all |
| [01:14:00] | juski: | Kelerion: animation can't be done without libmythui |
| [01:14:00] | Kelerion: | the background is just a png isn't it? |
| [01:14:00] | juski: | or is it mythui.. anyway.. until the UI is redone |
| [01:14:00] | scottder: | juski: that theme is swee |
| [01:14:00] | scottder: | sweet |
| [01:14:00] | scottder: | ;) |
| [01:14:00] | darkfire: | hrmm, any idea what else might be causing really jumpy viewing? this is viewed through the tv-out of a nvidia fx5200, with a pvr-350 for input |
| [01:15:00] | juski: | sweet it may be, but started, it aint |
| [01:15:00] | kormoc: | darkfire, any programs using a lot of cpu? you can use top to see |
| [01:15:00] | juski: | Kelerion: yeh it's mostly all PNGs |
| [01:15:00] | darkfire: | not at all, i'm trying to set this up to primarily just be a mythbox |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | darkfire, and by chance, what nvidia driver version are you using? |
| [01:16:00] | juski: | it'd be much less wasteful to use OpenGL for effects like clouds, smoke, flames, fog... |
| [01:16:00] | Kelerion: | so can't the bg just be a single animated png? am presuming libpng (which I presume myth uses) would just handle it |
| [01:16:00] | darkfire: | 1.0.8178-r2 |
| [01:16:00] | juski: | ... rotating, zooming.... |
| [01:16:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | png supports animation ? |
| [01:16:00] | juski: | reflections... |
| [01:16:00] | juski: | yeh |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | darkfire, I would wadger that if you downgrade to 7676, your issue will be fixed |
| [01:17:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | kewl |
| [01:17:00] | juski: | but not in the _current_ (even SVN) mythtv |
| [01:17:00] | darkfire: | kormoc, thanks, i'll try that |
| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | darkfire, there's some issues with opengl vsync and nvidia driver version 8xxx that cause it to use 100% cpu for playback, causing skippyness |
| [01:19:00] | juski: | SteveWrightNZ: apparently PNG does support animation, but I've yet to find anything that'll save animated PNGs.. I know the version of GIMP I've got doesn't |
| [01:20:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | ok |
| [01:20:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | I got a gimp guru here, asking him now |
| [01:20:00] | Kelerion: | Gimp Animation Packgage? |
| [01:21:00] | juski: | erm... I used that to make the animated gif.. www.juski.co.uk/animated.gif |
| [01:21:00] | sPiN-: | ohh man this is working really well now :) |
| [01:21:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | GAP 2.2.8 doesnt support it |
| [01:21:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | png that is |
| [01:21:00] | Kelerion: | imagemagick does it |
| [01:21:00] | Kelerion: | "convert animation.gif animation.mng" |
| [01:22:00] | sPiN-: | i love the album art visualizer for the mythMusic, but i dont have all the album art coming up, what can i do to have them all show up like say amarok does |
| [01:22:00] | juski: | anyway.. resistance is futile.. mythtv won't work with it right now, I think |
| [01:22:00] | Kelerion: | or.. "convert *.png output.mng" |
| [01:22:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. lol |
| [01:22:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | o.O |
| [01:23:00] | juski: | sPiN: what does amarok do exactly? I think mythmusic can only show covers |
| [01:25:00] | sPiN-: | juski: it goes out to some amazon site and fetches all your covers |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | sPiN-: I think you have to put it all there yourself with mythmusic, but someone did a script a few days ago.. check the ML |
| [01:25:00] | sPiN-: | juski: there is a plugin script for amarok that will download the cover art and save it in the dir of the track, and i think that is how i ended up with some of the myth covers i have showing up, but i want to get them all, cause i love that it will full screen the album art |
| [01:26:00] | sPiN-: | cool thanks |
| [01:28:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.17/it.A/id.421/.f <-- anyone played with iMedia Embedded MythTV ? any good ? |
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| [01:32:00] | juski: | whoah shit! |
| [01:33:00] | juski: | box I'm working on my theme with just powered itself down |
| [01:33:00] | juski: | lucky I made a backup |
| [01:33:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | sudo reboot |
| [01:34:00] | juski: | need to buy a new video card for it.. the current one gets way too hot & I suspect it may be that |
| [01:34:00] | juski: | had a noisy fan so I took it off |
| [01:35:00] | juski: | hmmm.. new video card please |
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| [01:35:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | its gotta have a fan really.. or a phat-ass custom heatsink |
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| [01:36:00] | juski: | I know |
| [01:36:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | I fried a GF4 vidcard with just a heatsink – no fan |
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| [01:36:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | had no fan – factory standard |
| [01:36:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | I bought it coz it was slient |
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| [01:37:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | but it didnt last.. got more cranky every day until it was unusable |
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| [01:38:00] | juski: | this un's a GF2 |
| [01:38:00] | juski: | and it's been on all day |
| [01:38:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | k. mine was a fx5200 IIRC |
| [01:39:00] | juski: | thank god I'm not using XFS on this machine though |
| [01:42:00] | juski: | it's a bit of a donkey though, this box... loose HDD power connectors.. PSU is a bit ropey |
| [01:42:00] | juski: | CPU fan on its way out |
| [01:43:00] | laga: | sounds like you're describing my main machine ;) |
| [01:43:00] | juski: | I replaced bad caps on the motherboard |
| [01:43:00] | juski: | got a makeshift fan on the GPU now |
| [01:44:00] | juski: | god it's noisy |
| [01:44:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [01:44:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | vacuum cleaner ? |
| [01:44:00] | juski: | method of mounting the fan.. gaffer tape |
| [01:45:00] | juski: | sounds like an old VCR rewinding a tape |
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| [01:46:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | whats that ? 8-) |
| [01:47:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | rewinding a what ? |
| [01:47:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | 8-) |
| [01:47:00] | juski: | heh.. just found an old banshee card |
| [01:47:00] | juski: | I'll put that in the bin next to the ATI All In Wonder Why It Doesn't Work PCI jobbie |
| [01:49:00] | juski: | time to make a tarball I reckon |
| [01:50:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | | feather |
| [01:51:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | piping tar to ssh is good for backups too, especially when space is limited |
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| [01:56:00] | juski: | FUCK! |
| [01:56:00] | juski: | just tarred it all up.. checked my gmail.. changes wanted... grrr |
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| [01:56:00] | juski: | sod it |
| [01:57:00] | laga: | hrhr |
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| [01:59:00] | juski: | well I sorted out the overscan, redid all the selector boxes.. got the size down.. what the fuck do these people want?! |
| [01:59:00] | juski: | ;-) |
| [02:00:00] | juski: | </rant> |
| [02:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | you cannot please everyone :) get it to where you are happy and ignore them :) |
| [02:00:00] | juski: | course if I wasn't always publicising it ;-) |
| [02:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [02:01:00] | juski: | I think when this is uploaded & I've updated my webshite I'll take a break from it |
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| [02:01:00] | darkfire: | kormoc, thanks, switching the driver to 7676 fixed it |
| [02:01:00] | Baylink: | Beirdo? |
| [02:02:00] | juski: | less than 8 megs now.. think I did a good job of optimising it without increasing the PNG compression |
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| [02:05:00] | kormoc: | your welcome Mr. darkfire. |
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| [02:12:00] | ** nanoITX is back ** | |
| [02:12:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: with the mini-ITX and Nvidia card for H/W HD MPEG2 decoding don |
| [02:12:00] | nanoITX: | t you need a fan for the card? |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, nope |
| [02:12:00] | nanoITX: | also, how much does the card cost? |
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| [02:14:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, $30 |
| [02:14:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814168002 |
| [02:15:00] | sPiN-: | i think i may have found a nice python-qt script someone made that will all of your album art, save it to the dir with the tracks in various formats |
| [02:15:00] | sPiN-: | i think ill even be able to get my ipod nano to load these up :) |
| [02:17:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: O.K. so it's cheaper than the nano-ITX — I would have expected that in a mini-ITX board. But, what enclosure is it in? And, are there any fans at all (P/S, CPU, case, etc?) I originally wanted a fanless solution, and the nITX looked like it, but Via fscked up at the last minute with the N10000. I was considering an N 8k instead (which should run fanless) but was worried about processign power |
| [02:17:00] | xris: | sPiN-: music? I have a nice little script that'll convert ogg or mp3 stuff to aac files, and add in any cover art it finds in the directory. |
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| [02:18:00] | sPiN-: | wow you mean like add it to the files meta data |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, not fanless, no, one cpu fan and one ps fan |
| [02:18:00] | xris: | sPiN-: yeah, it's built into faac |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856117002 is the case |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, but it's quiet, quite quiet |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | xris, so I fixed the overheating problem with my mythbox as well |
| [02:18:00] | xris: | kormoc: oh? fan? |
| [02:18:00] | nanoITX: | thanks, kormoc |
| [02:19:00] | kormoc: | xris, the ide cable for the hard drive was covering part of the cpu block, so it was keeping a lot of the air from flowing |
| [02:19:00] | xris: | sPiN-: https://svn.forevermore.net/svn/misc/trunk/scripts/convertmusic |
| [02:19:00] | xris: | kormoc: ahh... |
| [02:19:00] | kormoc: | xris, was a oops moment |
| [02:19:00] | sPiN-: | ive got the mother of all tutorials to write about my experience with mythtv 64bit and hauppauge 150 |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | yes, should show you how to slice up IDE cables and use the flex covering stuff. |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | I should remember to do that with my new box. |
| [02:20:00] | kormoc: | xris, just a reason to go to Sata sooner then later :) |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | well, but no (cheap) sata optical drives |
| [02:21:00] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff, ya |
| [02:21:00] | xris: | anyway, good to hear. |
| [02:21:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc08.htm $US$132 One CPU fan. External power brick and internal DC/DC converter (both fanless). |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | nanoITX, yeah, it does look sharp, it's just, hard to justify that much money for a box |
| [02:23:00] | nanoITX: | kormoc: yeah, I hear ya. And $400 for the mobo. But it IS sweet. And the case is a damn nice one, build-wise as well as asthetically. Personally, I don't mind paying a bit for looks as well as functionality — at least not when the thing is going into my media room. |
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| [02:24:00] | darkfire: | hrmm, if there's a small blue border on the left and the top of the tv image, is adjusting the X and Y displacement the best way to correct it? |
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| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can either increase overscan so that you can't see it |
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| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | or use xvattr to change it's colour to black |
| [02:44:00] | juski: | riiiight... last update for a while.. http://www/mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/ |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man this is sweet. I had a VGA->Svideo convertor sitting around. Last time I gtried it the picture looked like crap so I put it in a box and haven't touched it in almost 2 yearsw |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just came accross it and tried it, it looks perfect other than some minor tearing which I can handle with a modeline |
| [02:45:00] | juski: | coolio :) |
| [02:46:00] | ** juski has just switched off the 'spare' box... his ears are ringing ** | |
| [02:46:00] | juski: | got a new hostname for it.. 'spitfire' |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm so totally impressed. My problem before had to be related to the card I tried it on |
| [02:47:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: nice to have cool stuff lying around you later rediscover to be useful |
| [02:47:00] | laga: | doesn't happen too often, unfortunately |
| [02:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, I had a spare laptop around too but the drivers for controlling TV out on that are kinda flaky last I tried them |
| [02:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | this would make that combo a perfect frontend |
| [02:49:00] | laga: | i wish i had a good backup of mythwiki.de somewhere.. i've just accidentally delected the logo and my customized files when i upgraded to latest mediawiki.. |
| [02:49:00] | juski: | woops |
| [02:49:00] | laga: | yep :) |
| [02:49:00] | laga: | i made a backup, but it was the wrong directory ;) |
| [02:50:00] | scottder: | What is the main advantage of the PVR-350 over the PVR-150? |
| [02:50:00] | juski: | now.. can I be bothered to update the wiki just yet? hmmmm no.. the redirect will do & will serve anyone right who linked directly to the files |
| [02:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | scottder: The mpeg decoder + tv out, which honestly isn't worth the money imho |
| [02:50:00] | juski: | scottder: it doesn't have an advantage IMHO |
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| [02:51:00] | juski: | wtf am I paying for domain redirection for if it doesn't work 24/7 ? |
| [02:52:00] | juski: | arse |
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| [02:55:00] | juski: | laga: just been reading about the idiot... sounds like a right piece of work |
| [02:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | This little convertor seems to be most happy using 640x480. Or at least with the modelines I've tried. Gotta love it when old toys become new again heh |
| [02:57:00] | scottder: | Ok, then I think I'll stick with the 150 then, thanks :) |
| [02:58:00] | scottder: | need to get a cheap vid card with s-video out too |
| [02:58:00] | juski: | scottder: or buy a pVR500 for the same money as a 350 ;) |
| [02:58:00] | juski: | scottder: around $30 will see you right.. probably less.. buy nvidia though |
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| [03:00:00] | scottder: | why nvidia, just curious... |
| [03:01:00] | juski: | cos erm.. ATI drivers are patchy... and other manufacturers' Linux support can be even worse |
| [03:01:00] | scottder: | Sounds good to me then |
| [03:02:00] | juski: | nvidia are pretty much head & shoulders ahead of everybody else with Linux drivers, across their whole range |
| [03:02:00] | laga: | juski: yep. quite a sucker.. |
| [03:02:00] | juski: | seen some guys come in here & they've got some lemon of a card that has linux drivers alright but they'll only work on 2.4 kernels – things like that |
| [03:03:00] | scottder: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814140057 |
| [03:03:00] | juski: | that'll do |
| [03:03:00] | juski: | no DVI though, so if you ever get a plasma you might need to upgrade.. |
| [03:04:00] | scottder: | Won't be upgrading display for a while anyway...so not too woried |
| [03:06:00] | sPiN-: | mwahhaha that script downloaded all the cover art for my tracks, i set some manually, and now i have all my album art all setup and ready to go |
| [03:07:00] | juski: | sPiN: post a linky please |
| [03:07:00] | sPiN-: | http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/ |
| [03:07:00] | fatmatt: | what sort of specs should I be looking at for a reasonable, cheap vid card, AGP, rare DVD, 99.9% of the time it'll be only tv output from mythtv |
| [03:08:00] | juski: | fatmatt: scrolly upwards ^^^ |
| [03:08:00] | sPiN-: | fatmatt: nvidia g4 mx |
| [03:08:00] | juski: | the newegg.com linky |
| [03:08:00] | sPiN-: | 35bucks at newegg |
| [03:08:00] | juski: | cheers sPiN |
| [03:09:00] | sPiN-: | ohh nice he gave the link to the one i was talkin about :P |
| [03:11:00] | juski: | wooo.. just seen the flash demo of that album art thing.. very spiffy! |
| [03:11:00] | sPiN-: | its got some bugs where you might have to download some yourself |
| [03:12:00] | sPiN-: | juski: are you a kde user? |
| [03:13:00] | juski: | sPiN-: hell no |
| [03:13:00] | juski: | tried it once, chucked it away |
| [03:14:00] | sPiN-: | well there is a nifty app called krename that can do regex and wizard style file renaming, very hand for stripping stuff from mp3 filesnames |
| [03:14:00] | sPiN-: | kde3.5 is very nice! |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, Maybe I'm just being blind, but can't anyone point me to where I can find the xrandr settings in mythfrontend ? |
| [03:14:00] | nanoITX: | Grrr... can't get NFS working: rpcinfo -p server on the client doen't see my NFS services |
| [03:15:00] | juski: | I'm not bad with perl now, so I could use that at a push |
| [03:15:00] | juski: | nanoITX: running portmap on the server? |
| [03:16:00] | juski: | I had a problem with very slow mounting of NFS shares.. turned out to be no portmap running on the client |
| [03:18:00] | nanoITX: | juski: yeah. Portmap on the server. /etc/exports fine. rpcinfo on the server fine. /etc/hosts.allow on server permits client. client can ping/ssh, etc server. but portmap -p server on client just shows portmapper and status. |
| [03:18:00] | nanoITX: | client and server on same LAN segment to boot |
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| [03:19:00] | juski: | you lost me at 'exports'.. lol |
| [03:19:00] | nanoITX: | X server on client lets X clients on server display on client. Wide open net (all behind my F/W) |
| [03:19:00] | nanoITX: | /etc/exports indicates what directories to NFS export |
| [03:20:00] | juski: | I know.. I mean after that ;) |
| [03:20:00] | nanoITX: | rpcinfo shows what RPCs are active. rpcinfo -p server shows what RPC services are available on server |
| [03:20:00] | nanoITX: | rpcinfo on server as per NFS-howto |
| [03:21:00] | juski: | ahhh.. never needed to do that.. always just set exports, started NFS up & I was away |
| [03:21:00] | juski: | the gentoo howto for NFS is like... emerge nfs |
| [03:21:00] | nanoITX: | juski, yeah, me too. but FC3 is being a pain. |
| [03:21:00] | juski: | edit /etc/exports.. add nfs into the runlevel thingy... then start it up |
| [03:22:00] | nanoITX: | juski: did that. |
| [03:22:00] | scottder: | make sure iptables allows the traffic too |
| [03:22:00] | scottder: | if it's on |
| [03:23:00] | nanoITX: | turned iptables off.. but it was wide open anyway. (/me trusts iptables on his f/w) |
| [03:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | can anyone confirm if the sticky rewind is working properly? |
| [03:26:00] | nanoITX: | bbiab |
| [03:29:00] | juski: | Captain_Murdoch: depends where you've been putting the remote ;) |
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| [03:30:00] | juski: | right... I neeeeeeed sleeeeeeeeep |
| [03:30:00] | juski: | night all |
| [03:30:00] | laga: | cu juski |
| [03:31:00] | laga: | so do i. night all. |
| [03:32:00] | scottder: | I think I'll start a new website...."Cheap Bastards MythTV" |
| [03:32:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [03:33:00] | laga: | scottder: there is already something like that |
| [03:33:00] | laga: | http://hawley.homeip.net/recycled-machine-mythtv.html#compiling |
| [03:34:00] | ** nanoITX notes that his mythTV box won't exactly be cheap ** | |
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| [03:41:00] | scottder: | I build a cheap one to get my wife hooked....then I cna push for updates |
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| [03:41:00] | Dittohead: | haha |
| [03:42:00] | Dittohead: | Remember though, it works crappily on cheap hardware she won't get hooked. ;) |
| [03:42:00] | Dittohead: | s/it/IF it |
| [03:43:00] | nanoITX: | Ah... I see my NFS problem... stale ARP cache on the client (which used to have the same IP address as the server) |
| [03:44:00] | scottder: | What I'd love to do is have a big ole server in the den with a few tuner cards in it... |
| [03:44:00] | Kelerion: | anyone tried the NX stuff yet? |
| [03:44:00] | scottder: | and a nice lean frontend machine in the living room |
| [03:44:00] | Dittohead: | scottder, You'll want SCSI raid of course. Dith dual xeons or opterons. |
| [03:45:00] | Dittohead: | scottder, 10k rpm drives no less. And a large cooling system as well. :P |
| [03:45:00] | scottder: | Nah just lots of good cheap SATA drives :) |
| [03:45:00] | scottder: | enough space to rip all my CDs to FLAC :) |
| [03:46:00] | scottder: | and all my sons DVDs as well |
| [03:46:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [03:46:00] | Dittohead: | weeee |
| [03:46:00] | scottder: | 500gb of Thomas the Tank Engine |
| [03:46:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [03:46:00] | Dittohead: | hehe |
| [03:47:00] | nanoITX: | gotta reboot. my nameserver cache is fscked (and I don't remember the service to restart). |
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| [03:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | must be easier to reboot than ask a question. |
| [03:47:00] | Dittohead: | /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart... |
| [03:47:00] | Dittohead: | ok Gentoo. |
| [03:48:00] | Dittohead: | Captain_Murdoch, Must be a windows user |
| [03:48:00] | Dittohead: | s/ok/on |
| [03:48:00] | Dittohead: | I can't type worth crap tonight. |
| [03:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) |
| [03:49:00] | Dittohead: | ID10T error guy: help i've got problems! |
| [03:49:00] | Dittohead: | Tech guy: well, did you reboot? |
| [03:52:00] | scottder: | PEBKAC |
| [03:54:00] | scottder: | Besides the ones on Mythtv.org are there any other sites with MythTV themes? |
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| [04:01:00] | awb4422: | scottder: there was a new one floating around the mailing list this week, project gothem i believe |
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| [04:02:00] | poningru: | so does myth require gcc-3.4 |
| [04:02:00] | poningru: | ? |
| [04:05:00] | poningru: | or can I use 4.0? |
| [04:08:00] | sPiN-: | poningru: you can use 4 |
| [04:08:00] | sPiN-: | i had to use the svn to get it to compile though |
| [04:09:00] | scottder: | awb4422: Yeah Isaw that earlier :) |
| [04:10:00] | awb4422: | oh ok |
| [04:10:00] | awb4422: | i havent taken a look yet |
| [04:10:00] | scottder: | :) |
| [04:10:00] | scottder: | http://www.juski.co.uk/ |
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| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | poningru: 0.18.1 release wont compile with gcc 4.0, 0.18-fixes or the latest svn will |
| [04:13:00] | poningru: | cool |
| [04:13:00] | poningru: | awesom thanks dude |
| [04:15:00] | awb4422: | im triyng out r5a30.1 right now |
| [04:15:00] | awb4422: | we'll see if i can get the pvr-350 tv out working though :) |
| [04:17:00] | awb4422: | i'm going to try the project grayhem theme as well |
| [04:17:00] | awb4422: | i like the look of it |
| [04:18:00] | awb4422: | classy |
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| [04:22:00] | ** nanoITX found part of the rpc problem --- a mising newline in column 80 in /etc/hosts. heh heh ** | |
| [04:23:00] | pattern: | has anyone manged to get the ira-3 reciever working with lirc? |
| [04:24:00] | pattern: | i get lircd running, but when i try "irrecord --driver=irman --device=/dev/ttyS0 foo.conf" it tells me "could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)" and in /var/log/messages i see "[irrecord] could not open /dev/ttyS0" |
| [04:24:00] | pattern: | get=got |
| [04:25:00] | pattern: | however, i can run "test_io /dev/ttyS0" and i get some output that's in sync with me pressing buttons on my remote when aimed at the ira3 device |
| [04:25:00] | pattern: | and "setserial /dev/ttyS0" reports "/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4" |
| [04:30:00] | nanoITX: | Hmm. my NFS server is sending an ICMP Destination Unreacable packet on receipt of a rpcinfo -p request |
| [04:31:00] | nanoITX: | /etc/hosts.allow looks O.K |
| [04:31:00] | awb4422: | any pvr-350/knoppmyth users in here? |
| [04:31:00] | awb4422: | my machine is hanging when I have tv out enabled on my pvr-350 |
| [04:31:00] | awb4422: | when i boot up |
| [04:34:00] | nanoITX: | Ah! iptables was running. |
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| [04:34:00] | nanoITX: | yay! my nfs mount finally worked |
| [04:34:00] | dcstimm: | hey guys, I am using a mac mini as a frontend and my linux machine as a backend, but I cant get the frontend to connect, does it need mysql client installed on macosx for it to work? |
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| [04:45:00] | Kelerion: | never used the macos.. but under linux it needs the qt mysql libs |
| [04:47:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.users.bigpond.com/pear_computers/myth-osx-howto.html |
| [04:47:00] | Kelerion: | tells ya there it looks like |
| [04:49:00] | awb4422: | If I'm using my pvr-350 tvout, do i have to have the line: Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" in my XF86Config-4 ? |
| [04:54:00] | kormoc: | doubtful, as that's the only video out there is on that card |
| [04:58:00] | awb4422: | ok well i did cat /proc/fb and got back 0 iTVC15 TV out |
| [04:58:00] | awb4422: | i assume thats a bad sign |
| [04:59:00] | awb4422: | i think theres an issue with /dev/fb0 |
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| [04:59:00] | awb4422: | because it exists, but when i try to do ivtvfbctl --device=/dev/fb0 --globalalpha=off --localalpha=on |
| [04:59:00] | awb4422: | it barfs back at me, --device=/dev/fb0: No such file or directory |
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| [05:12:00] | ** nanoITX downloads 2.6.15 ** | |
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| [05:24:00] | awb4422: | ok well im going to put xp on this box and test the tv out w/ that, if that doesnt work then i KNOW something is hosed |
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| [05:37:00] | EnterServerName: | hi all |
| [05:37:00] | EnterServerName: | i havent gotten a renewal for zap it |
| [05:37:00] | EnterServerName: | and it expires 28th |
| [05:37:00] | EnterServerName: | what should id o? |
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| [05:41:00] | AlienBaby: | my CPU spikes to 100% when recording, but not while watching live TV.. PVR 350 mythtv 18.1 Gentoo |
| [05:42:00] | AlienBaby: | My recording profiles LiveTv and default are the same.. |
| [05:42:00] | AlienBaby: | filesystem is reiserfs 3.6 |
| [05:43:00] | AlienBaby: | ~60% is system cpu and ~40 is wait state |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | You guys think Hitachi 250gb HDs for $89.99 are a good deal |
| [05:44:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [05:46:00] | rtsai: | Cardoe: that looks decent, but if you care about noise, I don't think Hitachi has a "quiet" reputation. |
| [05:47:00] | rtsai: | EnterServerName: you might need to wait another day. Have you tried directly going to labs.zap2it.com? |
| [05:53:00] | Cardoe: | meh not so hot |
| [05:54:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, mornin' |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | hey kormoc |
| [05:54:00] | Cardoe: | anyone wanna know what Best Buy has on sale tomorrow? |
| [05:55:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, have you heard of issues with itvt 0.4.2 with chanel changing? |
| [05:55:00] | Cardoe: | I grabbed an ad on the way out of work |
| [05:55:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: not I |
| [05:55:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, unless it's ddr2 or btx heatsinks or btx cases, I'm broke :P |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, fair nuff. just sort odd that it causes the card to lock and i'm thinking of downgrading |
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| [05:57:00] | sPiN-: | mormoc i dont have a problem with it |
| [05:57:00] | sPiN-: | kormoc: |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | It's only happened once so far, but it's annoying |
| [05:57:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: you actually ahve a btx board? |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, will on thursday! |
| [05:58:00] | Ediehow: | anyone using xvmc? |
| [05:58:00] | Ediehow: | or totem w/lirc? |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, and a dual core 64 bit 2.8 ghz pentium d as well :) |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, I use xvmc |
| [05:58:00] | Cardoe: | wtf |
| [05:58:00] | Cardoe: | share! |
| [05:58:00] | Ediehow: | w/nvidia? |
| [05:58:00] | Cardoe: | I have this POS PPC in the living room |
| [05:58:00] | Cardoe: | :( |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, yup |
| [05:58:00] | Ediehow: | what card? |
| [05:58:00] | Cardoe: | I need a board to fit my Aria |
| [05:58:00] | Ediehow: | and |
| [05:58:00] | Ediehow: | what version of driver? |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, hehe, it's replacing my desktop |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, Fx 5200 and Fx 5800, 7676 |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I got it for $270 from Intel, Mobo, cpu, Wireless keyboard and mouse and remote. |
| [06:00:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: do u use xvmc driver w/mplayer as well? |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, yup |
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| [06:04:00] | Cardoe: | EnterServerName: log into your zap account and renew it |
| [06:10:00] | Ediehow: | i wish i could get xvmc working:O |
| [06:10:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, you could say, describe your issues... |
| [06:11:00] | Ediehow: | neither mplayer nor mythtv will work w/xvmc |
| [06:11:00] | kormoc: | what errors? |
| [06:11:00] | Ediehow: | let me see |
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| [06:13:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . p;highlight= |
| [06:13:00] | Ediehow: | there is my post |
| [06:15:00] | kormoc: | what distro? |
| [06:15:00] | Ediehow: | fc4 |
| [06:16:00] | kormoc: | I would say that your xvmc libs seem screwy, but I wouldn't knwo for sure |
| [06:16:00] | Ediehow: | :O |
| [06:16:00] | Ediehow: | what distro do u use |
| [06:16:00] | kormoc: | Gentoo |
| [06:17:00] | Ediehow: | libXvMCW-0.9.3–3.rhfc4.at |
| [06:17:00] | kormoc: | libXvMC 1.0.1 here |
| [06:17:00] | Ediehow: | ok, where can i get newer one, sir kind sir? |
| [06:18:00] | kormoc: | I'm running xorg 7.0, which it comes with |
| [06:18:00] | Ediehow: | wow, xorg 7 is out? |
| [06:18:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [06:18:00] | Ediehow: | umm, can u get it for fc4? |
| [06:18:00] | kormoc: | donno |
| [06:18:00] | kormoc: | I don't use fc4 |
| [06:20:00] | nanoITX: | anyone have pointers to getting the CN400 accellerated drivers working? |
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| [06:39:00] | Cardoe: | 0.9.3 is one of the release candidates |
| [06:39:00] | Cardoe: | it's like xorg 7.0 RC3 I think |
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| [06:55:00] | ** nanoITX fumbles through the CN400-related docs. ** | |
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| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: you use any plugins? |
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| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, mythvideo and mythtvdvd |
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| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | obviously you don't have them installed with my snapshots? |
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| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, correct |
| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I don't use them that much, so it's not a problem to have them not there |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | Well they're going in |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | in a sec |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | if you could test them |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | :) |
| [07:35:00] | Cardoe: | the depends are so freaking weird |
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| [07:35:00] | awb4422: | anyone having issues with the knoppmyth wiki? |
| [07:35:00] | Cardoe: | because it looks like mythdvd needs mythvideo but it doesn't |
| [07:36:00] | awb4422: | i think its totally borked |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | mythmusic optionally lets you use fftw |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | but it looks like mythdvd requires fftw |
| [07:37:00] | Chutt: | mythdvd doesn't require fftw. |
| [07:37:00] | Chutt: | and mythdvd does require mythvideo for some things (it uses its settings) |
| [07:37:00] | xvalentinex: | has anyone experienced problems with the second tuner on the new pvr500's with the samsung chip? |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: well then this is wonky then |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | ./configure --disable-all --enable-mythdvd |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | and it says mythvideo is disabled. |
| [07:38:00] | Chutt: | <shrug> |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | made a mistake... |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | echo "LIBS += -lrfftw -lfftw" |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | is commented out in the DVD block |
| [07:40:00] | Chutt: | probably someone just did a cut'n'paste |
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| [07:41:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, will test ya |
| [07:45:00] | awb4422: | whats the difference between the grey and the silver hauppauge remote? does the grey have a black bottom and the silver is all silver? |
| [07:45:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: xine support is gone from mythvideo right? |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | err |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | it is? |
| [07:45:00] | Cardoe: | or you can program the command in manually? |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | mythvideo just runs whatever external program you tell it to |
| [07:46:00] | Cardoe: | all I did was grep the source |
| [07:46:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | xine's one of the defaults, i thought |
| [07:46:00] | Cardoe: | I just grep'd the source for 'xine' |
| [07:46:00] | Cardoe: | and nada |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | ah, guess not |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | i don't use mythvideo :p |
| [07:48:00] | gdi2k: | Hi, I'm having trouble with xmltv using tv_grab_de_tvtoday. Apparently it dies at line 681. I've tried xmltv 0.5.39 0.5.41 and 0.5.42, and it's always the same. http://pastebin.com/517187 |
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| [07:50:00] | tweak: | hey, what's up? quick question... I am using a BrookTree 878 tv capture card, but I can't get mythsetup to recogonize it |
| [07:50:00] | tweak: | anything I can do to help that along? tvtime works nicely |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: mythvideo & mythdvd are both commited |
| [07:53:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: gotta unmask them |
| [07:53:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:53:00] | Cardoe: | they should hit rsync in like 9 min |
| [07:53:00] | kormoc: | sounds grand |
| [07:53:00] | tweak: | mmm... updates.... |
| [07:58:00] | tweak: | any ideas about the card detection or should I come back when it isn't 0300? |
| [07:59:00] | tweak: | eh, I should probably sleep anyway... goodnight all |
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| [08:03:00] | inm8: | hi all....anyone got time to help me out? |
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| [08:20:00] | EricL: | What's the best program to edit the MPG's that are recorded by MythTV with? |
| [08:20:00] | EricL: | Best as far as ease of use. |
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| [08:50:00] | dtm: | EricL: you might try lives ot jahshaka |
| [08:50:00] | dtm: | s/ot/or/ |
| [08:50:00] | dtm: | EricL: and you might have to convert them to an intermediary format like dv |
| [08:50:00] | dtm: | i dont know. |
| [08:50:00] | EricL: | Yea, I was hoping to use something that Debian has a package for. |
| [08:50:00] | dtm: | that's the least of your concerns :) |
| [08:51:00] | EricL: | If I convert it to DV, then I can use Kino? |
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| [08:56:00] | laga: | avidemux2? dunno if it's easy to use, though. you can also do basic editing in mythtv itself. |
| [08:57:00] | EricL: | laga: In MythTV itself? I didn't know I could do that. |
| [08:58:00] | EricL: | I guess I should probably read all the documentation. |
| [08:58:00] | laga: | :) |
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| [08:59:00] | laga: | just start watching a recording and hit 'm' and choose the first option there |
| [08:59:00] | EricL: | Ah |
| [08:59:00] | ** EricL reaches for the dunce cap ** | |
| [08:59:00] | laga: | however, lossless transcoding is not implemented in 0.18.1. it works in pre 0.19, though :) |
| [09:00:00] | EricL: | I am using the latest build (actually I did svn update 3 days ago and I am building the latest one right now). |
| [09:00:00] | EricL: | I had to update because I wanted the ability to record while watching live tv. |
| [09:01:00] | EricL: | Record out of the ringbuffer that is. |
| [09:02:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [09:02:00] | laga: | you should be all set for lossless mpeg2 transcoding then |
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| [09:09:00] | RancidLM: | hey all |
| [09:10:00] | RancidLM: | im trying to view my tv but im getting a problem im missing a file called ringbuf.nuv in /cache/chache/ any suggestions? |
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| [09:21:00] | nanoITX: | any openChrome gurus around? |
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| [10:56:00] | BlackJudas: | Crappity crap crap, this seems to be a common problem with ivtv users using the 150 or 500... :/ ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw ... and it's there... |
| [10:56:00] | BlackJudas: | anyone have a link on how to debug/fix this? |
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| [12:20:00] | ** nanoITX has audio working on his nano-ITX ** | |
| [12:21:00] | nanoITX: | ugh. ogg is a lousy encoder (/me is picky) |
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| [12:33:00] | juski: | BlackJudas: I had that issue, but copying the firmware files to the right place sorted it |
| [12:33:00] | juski: | with the emphasis there on _right_ place |
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| [12:35:00] | the-FoX: | juski: did you make the mythTV trailer? |
| [12:35:00] | the-FoX: | hello all together |
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| [12:38:00] | the-FoX: | someone here who has ideas for a presentation of mythtv at a fair ? |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | the mythtv_web.avi video? |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | yeh I made that |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | now considering re-doing it |
| [12:39:00] | Nichotin: | the-FoX: show the bling, like mythweb |
| [12:39:00] | juski: | the bling.. everything :) |
| [12:40:00] | juski: | http://www.juski.co.uk/mythtv_web.avi for those who missed it |
| [12:40:00] | juski: | will be made available in a high quality format soon btw |
| [12:44:00] | the-FoX: | juski: thanks i already found your trailer ;) do you have the mythtv logo in big format ? |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | define 'big' |
| [12:46:00] | juski: | not big enough to use on a banner if that's what you mean |
| [12:46:00] | nanoITX: | hmm. I can't seam to build Xorg's X 7.0 |
| [12:46:00] | juski: | nobody seems to have one |
| [12:46:00] | nanoITX: | or at least can't configur it |
| [12:47:00] | the-FoX: | juski: so i can print it on banners |
| [12:47:00] | juski: | best thing to do would be to re-draw it in a vector format |
| [12:47:00] | juski: | I need one too, so I might do it |
| [12:49:00] | the-FoX: | juski: t would be great if you can send it to me too :) |
| [12:51:00] | juski: | 200 dpi image of 4 feet by 3 feet = 200 megapixels |
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| [12:56:00] | juski: | but in vector format.. nowhere near that big ;) |
| [12:56:00] | juski: | I'll get back to you – have chores to do now |
| [13:08:00] | juski: | how about if I just recreate the 'look' of the logo without the transparent 'spring' part? |
| [13:11:00] | nanoITX: | *yawn* time to get some sleep and fight this X.org build later. (it's 5AM here) |
| [13:12:00] | the-FoX: | juski: i must see it |
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| [13:22:00] | qfour20: | good morning mythtv gurus |
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| [13:25:00] | sjaakz0r: | sd |
| [13:25:00] | sjaakz0r: | can anyone tell me how to select the main window of x for center fuction of nvtv ? |
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| [13:26:00] | psofa: | can i use the gallery mode in videos and have folders at the same time? I mean i want a gallery view but i dont want myth to search into the subdirectories |
| [13:27:00] | psofa: | and what filename does myth expect for the thumbnails? |
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| [13:30:00] | juski: | hmm I wonder where that font guessing website I once found is |
| [13:30:00] | juski: | psofa: to the 1st question: yes you can |
| [13:30:00] | psofa: | how? |
| [13:30:00] | juski: | and have a guess what mythtv would want for the filename |
| [13:30:00] | juski: | psofa: I think it's in the FM |
| [13:31:00] | psofa: | FM? |
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| [13:31:00] | juski: | as in RTFM ;) |
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| [13:31:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [13:31:00] | juski: | it's not difficult to find it if you look though |
| [13:31:00] | psofa: | well ive looked through the options |
| [13:31:00] | juski: | general settings in media > video settings |
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| [13:31:00] | psofa: | yes |
| [13:32:00] | psofa: | ive looked there |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | 'use folder view' |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | there's also another setting to enable flattenning directory structures |
| [13:32:00] | qfour20: | I have some questions that I would like everyone's technical opinion on |
| [13:32:00] | Benoni: | Hi, I;ve been looking at MythTV for a while. Noticed that there hasn't been a release for since April, and was wondering if a new version was planned soon, and if so whether it is major/minor/etc? |
| [13:32:00] | qfour20: | I'm getting a 37" panel on monday, 1920x1080 |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | if you have a look at the screenshots of my theme you'll see that's how I've got it set, psofa |
| [13:32:00] | Benoni: | or should I ask in the dev channel? |
| [13:33:00] | qfour20: | and my new vidcard doesn't work, so I'm not gonna have the 6800LE that i thought i would to drive it |
| [13:33:00] | qfour20: | i have a ti4200 in my mythbox right now |
| [13:33:00] | juski: | Benoni: any day now, pending clearing all the tickets |
| [13:33:00] | qfour20: | would i be better off trying to work with the ti4200, or steal a friend's 5700LE to run at native 1920x1080? |
| [13:34:00] | psofa: | well ive no thing called folder view |
| [13:34:00] | psofa: | theres gallery |
| [13:34:00] | psofa: | listings |
| [13:34:00] | psofa: | and browser |
| [13:34:00] | dayl666: | hi folks mythtv works perfectly in my lan, but not from the internet, as ip address i set in my public one and as backend i set the internal ip. ports 3306 6543 and 6544 are open. what is wrong with that ? |
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| [13:35:00] | psofa: | browser isnt what i want |
| [13:35:00] | qfour20: | dayl666 i bet you need to change access to mythtv's mysql database |
| [13:35:00] | qfour20: | one sec... lemme find a link |
| [13:35:00] | juski: | psofa: read what I said.. setup menu... media settings... video .. general |
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| [13:35:00] | psofa: | i want a mix of listings and gallery |
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| [13:35:00] | juski: | ? |
| [13:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | dayl666: Try telnetting to the backend on port 6543 from the new machine. Does the connetion open ? |
| [13:36:00] | psofa: | i want a gallery view , but i also want to go into directories |
| [13:36:00] | juski: | psofa: it can be done |
| [13:36:00] | juski: | just play with the settings |
| [13:37:00] | juski: | look and you shall find ;) |
| [13:37:00] | juski: | it's not frickin rocket science |
| [13:37:00] | qfour20: | dayl666: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#Set . . . ent_computer (if you need to set up perms for remote users of mysql) |
| [13:37:00] | psofa: | omg |
| [13:37:00] | psofa: | the option comments dont make sense |
| [13:38:00] | dayl666: | qfour20: it worked once but i was changing something since then it doesnt work anymore |
| [13:38:00] | qfour20: | so, any videocard advice? ti4200 vs. 5700LE vs. SPENDABUTTONOF$$ONANEWCARD ? |
| [13:38:00] | dayl666: | GreyFoxx: telneting works |
| [13:38:00] | qfour20: | what was the change, dayl666 ? |
| [13:38:00] | psofa: | well it wasnt my fault |
| [13:38:00] | psofa: | the comments didnt make sense |
| [13:38:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [13:39:00] | psofa: | i just guessed it |
| [13:39:00] | psofa: | what should i use to generate the thumbnails |
| [13:40:00] | dayl666: | qfour20: if i knew that i would chang it back :) |
| [13:40:00] | qfour20: | heh |
| [13:40:00] | qfour20: | honestly, if the ports are open, i'd check db perms |
| [13:40:00] | Benoni: | juski, thanks. So whats the version number? Whats the highlights? Or is there a webpage I can get them off? |
| [13:40:00] | psofa: | juski, ? |
| [13:40:00] | qfour20: | maybe a restart of mysql took the permissions with it or something |
| [13:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | dayl666: I doubt that, cause if it's pulling a hostname/IP to connect to then it's already able to connect to mysql |
| [13:44:00] | dayl666: | GreyFoxx: yeah indeed it worked once i was just playing around with the ip adresses, but it just worked once :( |
| [13:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | dayl666: So your home frontends are connecting to martinelli.homedns.org without a problem ? |
| [13:46:00] | dayl666: | GreyFoxx: they can connect but getting this msg Connecting to backend server: martinelli.homedns.org:6543 (try 1 of 5) Connection timed out. you probably should modify the Master Server settingsin the setup program and set the proper IP address. |
| [13:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok backup, all frontends are saying that? the ones on your lan and the remote one ? |
| [13:47:00] | dayl666: | GreyFoxx: lan works perfectly nice (but when using it with lan clients i usually set both ips to internal) |
| [13:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, one problem you are going to run into is that I do not believe that you can use a hostname for the master backend IP setting. I'm pretty sure Myth assumes that whatever you give it is an IP only so it wont do a lookup on that hostname |
| [13:49:00] | the-FoX: | mythtv streams the data from backend to frontend by using tcp protocol ? |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | the-FoX: yes |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | the mythprotocol over tcp |
| [13:49:00] | the-FoX: | doesn't have udp less protocoll overhead? |
| [13:50:00] | the-FoX: | i just tested videolan and asked myself if it would be usable for mythtv ?! |
| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | the-FoX: Generally it does |
| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | the-FoX: Usable how ? As a server or a frontend ? |
| [13:51:00] | the-FoX: | my idea was: backend streams multicast udp stream of one channel, but two frontends can recieve the stream and it wouldn't be send twice into the network |
| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | It doesn't do that now, so obviously you would have to start adding code to support multicast |
| [13:52:00] | the-FoX: | i thought so |
| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | and even then you have to consider things like which frontend controls the stream ? For channel changes, pause/play, fastforward and rewind, etc |
| [13:52:00] | psofa: | any idea on how would i create thumbnails of my videos? |
| [13:54:00] | the-FoX: | GreyFoxx: i thought each frontend will buffer the stream locally. so you can timeshift. but i think it can't be realized that way |
| [13:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | the-FoX: no the frontend tells the backend where to jump to in the file |
| [13:57:00] | the-FoX: | GreyFoxx: wouldn't it be better the backend i a recorder and a media-transmitter (from air to lan) ? |
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| [13:57:00] | possie_: | hi |
| [13:57:00] | juski: | the-FoX: getting there: http://www.juski.co.uk/logo2.png |
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| [13:57:00] | the-FoX: | juski: thanks |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | the-FoX: It does that now |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just not via multicast |
| [13:58:00] | Mobleman: | Does MythTV req kde? |
| [13:58:00] | qfour20: | god bless i hate being on call |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mobleman: No |
| [13:58:00] | juski: | the-FoX: got a few things to line up ;) |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | but the mythbrowser plugin does |
| [13:58:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: But, kde or gnome? |
| [13:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just never install mythbrowser |
| [13:59:00] | qfour20: | anyways... anybody have experience using a ti4200 to run a 1920x1080 panel? nvidia claims the chip can do it up to 80hz refresh rate |
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| [13:59:00] | sjaakz0r: | what's the keyboard command to start recording during watching? |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mythtv does not require kde or gnome, mythbrowser the plugin itself requires konqueror |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you don';t have to be using kde as your window manager |
| [13:59:00] | Mobleman: | Ahh... okay.. |
| [13:59:00] | Mobleman: | So i |
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| [13:59:00] | qfour20: | so THAT's why it took so long to emerge.... |
| [13:59:00] | qfour20: | heh |
| [14:00:00] | Mobleman: | So I can install mythtv without having a window manager? |
| [14:00:00] | the-FoX: | anyone testet 1900 pixel width videos (HDTV) with mythv ? what cpu is neccassary ? anyone tested it with epia mainboards ? |
| [14:00:00] | qfour20: | the-FoX i will be testing on monday |
| [14:00:00] | qfour20: | xp2600m + ti4200 and a fx5700le |
| [14:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mobleman: You should use at least a minimal window manager to handle focus issues. But you certainly don';t need to run something like kde |
| [14:01:00] | Mobleman: | okay.. what do you use[14:39:36] <Mobleman> Har vi noget for til i morgen? |
| [14:01:00] | Mobleman: | [14:40:07] <Code> dansk – engelsk indepence ( vi har det for til i morgen, men vi har ikke engelsk ) |
| [14:01:00] | Mobleman: | [14:43:50] <Mobleman> Code: Hmm... fronter siger at det engelske er til tirsdag... :) |
| [14:01:00] | Mobleman: | [14:45:09] <Code> ah |
| [14:01:00] | qfour20: | Mobleman: you can use myth with a framebuffer if you'd like |
| [14:01:00] | the-FoX: | qfour20: great ;) keep me informed |
| [14:01:00] | qfour20: | will do |
| [14:01:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: okay.. what do you use |
| [14:01:00] | qfour20: | can't wait for my westinghouse to show up |
| [14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mobleman: personally I use IceWM |
| [14:01:00] | Mobleman: | Okay... |
| [14:02:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: I've only tried GNOME on my laptop... |
| [14:03:00] | juski: | the-FoX: like the overall look – tried to get the font as close as possible – turned out that Arial is the closest I have right now |
| [14:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are many lightweight window managers out there to pick from |
| [14:03:00] | qfour20: | if you're looking for a low-fat desktop environment, you might try xfce4 |
| [14:03:00] | qfour20: | it's my personal favorite for laptops and the like |
| [14:04:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: And KDE and Gnome are heavy, right? |
| [14:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mobleman: yes |
| [14:04:00] | qfour20: | kde is beautiful, though |
| [14:04:00] | Mobleman: | qfour20: No! |
| [14:04:00] | qfour20: | hey |
| [14:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | On a dedicated myth box they are wastes of memory and cpu |
| [14:04:00] | dayl666: | GreyFoxx: thanks i've put in twice the external ip and put into hosts file the ip so that it is routed to my internal ip, no it works :) |
| [14:04:00] | qfour20: | if i can put my MOM in front of it |
| [14:04:00] | qfour20: | yes, it is quite wasteful, though |
| [14:05:00] | coffee88: | Hiya. Anyone use DVDstyler to make menus for dvds? Are there any other buttons available anywhere rather than the one default? |
| [14:05:00] | qfour20: | oh, i have an easy question... is there an lircrc file to be created / customized for each myth component? |
| [14:06:00] | qfour20: | the fast forward / rewind buttons don't work in mythmusic, and i want to map pgup / pgdwn to them for that one component of myth |
| [14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | qfour20: I believe that myth only uses a single one |
| [14:06:00] | xpis: | Is there any way to make mythtv not mess with the brightness/capture settings of a framegrabber device? (or set these values) |
| [14:06:00] | qfour20: | hmmmm |
| [14:06:00] | juski: | ffs.. no unsolicited PMing, Benoni |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | xpis: nope |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will set them to whatever the settings are for the channel it is recording |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | so you could always make the channel settings match what you want on the recorder |
| [14:07:00] | xpis: | Ok, I'll just use mysql to do a mass settings change. |
| [14:08:00] | laga: | make sure to get a backup |
| [14:08:00] | qfour20: | is there a way to customize what keystrokes mythmusic uses for forward and rewind, then? |
| [14:09:00] | xpis: | laga: don't worry, I always make backups. |
| [14:09:00] | qfour20: | apparently because of other keybindings, mythmusic needs to ff/rw on left and right arrow keys |
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| [14:09:00] | qfour20: | unless the "prog" section or the lircrc file can distinguish between "mythtv" and "mythmusic" |
| [14:09:00] | qfour20: | prog variable, not section, but whatever |
| [14:11:00] | ** GreyFoxx giggles as svn compiles so that he can play with the new telnetable myth interface ** | |
| [14:13:00] | xpis: | GreyFoxx: What can be done with the telnet interface? |
| [14:15:00] | qfour20: | can you watch tv over a telnet session? that would be nerdy-useless it'd be cool |
| [14:15:00] | ** qfour20 writes that down for a future project ** | |
| [14:16:00] | adante: | hmm |
| [14:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | qfour20: sure you could. using mplayer and the ascii renderer |
| [14:16:00] | adante: | so myth is configured to leave 5gb free on the hard drive, at the moment i have 20k free |
| [14:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's ugly and slow hwoever |
| [14:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | xpis: It lets you control a frontend via telnet |
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| [14:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | jump to menus, navigate menus, play/pause videos etc |
| [14:17:00] | adante: | is there some special other option i need to set to actually get it to respect the limit? |
| [14:18:00] | qfour20: | so, anyone else have recommendations for ti4200 vs. fx5700le ? |
| [14:20:00] | juski: | the-FoX: tweaked the graphic again.. all the elements line up better now |
| [14:22:00] | juski: | fx will give more acceleration than a ti card I would've thought.. better performance for decoding HD.. just a guess of course |
| [14:23:00] | Kamy: | Hi all |
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| [14:26:00] | Kamy: | Under information center>system status>machine status>System: load: 0.10, 0.20, 0.22 Is that the cpu load percentage? |
| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
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| [14:27:00] | Kamy: | what are those figures then? 0.10, 0.20, 0.22 |
| [14:28:00] | psofa: | any idea on how i could use mplayer instead of imdb to get the video posters? |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | the average number of active processes waiting for a the clock cycles to do something |
| [14:28:00] | psofa: | i know how to tell mplayer to get a screenshot of a movie |
| [14:29:00] | psofa: | where should i put it though. In command to search for movie posters? |
| [14:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | edit the imdb.pl script that grabs the stuff from imdb ? *shrug* |
| [14:31:00] | psofa: | maybe i dont know perl? |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | now is a perfect time to learn ? |
| [14:32:00] | Kamy: | Thanks Greyfoxx, Is there anyway I can find out the load on the processor, I'm running two encoders and want to know if I can stick a third in there |
| [14:32:00] | Mobleman: | Some of you who runs mythtv on a Debian=? |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kamy: what kind of carpture card ? |
| [14:32:00] | Kamy: | pvr-500 |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mobleman: Many do |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kamy: Then you are basically using 0–1% to capture from those |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | the cards do ALL of the work |
| [14:33:00] | Kamy: | so, as long as I stick to hardware that has the encoder built in, as many slots as I have available? |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
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| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming you don't have ancient and slow harddrives |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | but unless you are using really old hardware that wont be a problem |
| [14:34:00] | Kamy: | AMD Sempron 64 2600 |
| [14:34:00] | Kamy: | 300 GB ATA HDD |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | you would be fine |
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| [14:35:00] | Kamy: | Cool, thanks GreyFoxx! |
| [14:36:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: How to start IceWM? |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | edit your .xinitrc in your home directory and use icewm-session instead of startkde |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | for instance I have a "exec icewm-session" line in mine |
| [14:39:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: There aren't a file named that in my home dir... I've just installed my debian today.... |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | then make one :) |
| [14:40:00] | ** juski grabs a load of album covers ** | |
| [14:41:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: And the content of it should be: "exec icewm-session" |
| [14:41:00] | Mobleman: | ? |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | pretty much |
| [14:42:00] | coffee88: | Does mythweb have to run on the backend machine, or can it run on another box that already has apache running? |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | coffee88: It can be on another box |
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| [14:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | as long as it can access the backend over the network and mysql then that is all it needs |
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| [14:43:00] | coffee88: | GreyFoxx: Whew. Is the config to do that obvious when it's installed? |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | well mythweb just has to be configured to point tothe IP of the mysql server, but you will have to configure mysql to allow the remote connection just like you would if you were adding a remote frontend |
| [14:45:00] | coffee88: | GreyFoxx: cool. Thanks. Something for next weekends project list..... |
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| [14:49:00] | Kamy: | I wanted to be able to access mythgallery via mythweb, someone suggested this command ln -s /myth/gallery/ /var/www/MythGallery |
| [14:50:00] | Kamy: | well, that makes mythgallery available via the web, but it is not password secured |
| [14:51:00] | Kamy: | Anyway to remove the symbolic link there? |
| [14:51:00] | ** Will waves hello ** | |
| [14:51:00] | adante: | try without trailing / |
| [14:52:00] | Kamy: | you mean run the same command but like this ln -s /myth/gallery /var/www/MythGallery |
| [14:52:00] | Kamy: | ? |
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| [14:54:00] | adante: | no, actually i have no idea what you are asking :] |
| [14:55:00] | Kamy: | lol |
| [14:55:00] | Kamy: | ok, I just googled it up anyway :) |
| [14:59:00] | Wole: | Hello everyone. I'm having problems with the channel table (uk dvb) – after scanning i get 40ish channels with mplex id's and serviceid's then loads of channels with xmltvid addresses. I know that this is what is wrong – does anyone have a mysql dump for crystal palace i could pinch? |
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| [15:02:00] | TUplink: | i see that ATI all in wonders dont work w/ myth tv... but what about ATI Wonder Pro? |
| [15:03:00] | juski: | TUplink: abandon all hope of getting a PoS ATI AIW card working |
| [15:03:00] | Wole: | TUplink: ATI no go :-( |
| [15:04:00] | juski: | they don't even frigging work in Windows, so what hope would you have for Linux? :-P |
| [15:04:00] | Mobleman: | What is QT? |
| [15:05:00] | dasOp: | QuickTime |
| [15:05:00] | juski: | Mobleman: a bunch of very useful libraries for applications like mythtv to use |
| [15:05:00] | Mobleman: | Okay... |
| [15:05:00] | dasOp: | Qt is the framework that mythtv uses |
| [15:05:00] | dasOp: | apparently, their respective lawyers settled on the capital T being important :P |
| [15:05:00] | juski: | ffs |
| [15:06:00] | dasOp: | not that I really care :P |
| [15:06:00] | juski: | well I suppose _everything_ has to be case-sensitive ;) |
| [15:07:00] | TUplink: | i am just loking at buying one and dont know what to get |
| [15:07:00] | TUplink: | really think i want USB |
| [15:07:00] | TUplink: | but USB and Fedora i dont knoe |
| [15:07:00] | TUplink: | know* |
| [15:07:00] | juski: | if you've got space in your system for a PCI card, get a PCI card |
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| [15:07:00] | TUplink: | ok... waht do you recomend for PCI? |
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| [15:08:00] | juski: | PVR150 |
| [15:08:00] | TUplink: | limited budget |
| [15:08:00] | juski: | PVR500 |
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| [15:08:00] | TUplink: | haugeplay |
| [15:08:00] | juski: | PVR150 is cheaper than any PoS USB thing |
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| [15:08:00] | TUplink: | or what ever it is |
| [15:08:00] | juski: | hauppauge |
| [15:09:00] | TUplink: | yea... that |
| [15:09:00] | TUplink: | i have an old one |
| [15:09:00] | xpis: | Does anyone use the hard disk acoustic management feature in hdparm to reduce noise output? |
| [15:09:00] | juski: | USB video device support in Linux is erm... sketchy to say the least.. some devices have drivers, a lot don't |
| [15:09:00] | TUplink: | dont even know the model anymore |
| [15:09:00] | juski: | xpis: nope but it'd have to be supported by the disk |
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| [15:09:00] | xpis: | It is. |
| [15:10:00] | juski: | _should_ be harmless to turn it on |
| [15:10:00] | TUplink: | dose MythTv support FM? |
| [15:10:00] | juski: | TUplink: not really |
| [15:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think so |
| [15:11:00] | juski: | there's a plugin called mythFM, but plenty of people have trouble getting it to work |
| [15:11:00] | TUplink: | humm... you think it will come? |
| [15:11:00] | juski: | it's also an unofficial plugin |
| [15:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | TUplink: Not unless someone who uses it steps up and starts producing code |
| [15:12:00] | TUplink: | oh.. well im no programer |
| [15:12:00] | TUplink: | to that extent |
| [15:12:00] | juski: | there are a few arguments against radio plugins... |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | like the one where the devs don't really want another recorder class |
| [15:13:00] | TUplink: | what is the difrance in the pvr150 and 250? |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | TUplink: PVR150 has video decoder & mpeg encoder on one chip, making it cheaper than the pVR250 |
| [15:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | TUplink: basically the 150 is the newer, cheaper, lower version of the 250 |
| [15:14:00] | juski: | 250 is much older, but driver support for the 150 is very very good now |
| [15:14:00] | TUplink: | so witch one works beter for older systems? |
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| [15:14:00] | juski: | either! |
| [15:15:00] | juski: | both need ivtv to work |
| [15:15:00] | TUplink: | so.... the 150 has encoder/decoder on board but 250 dont? |
| [15:15:00] | Kamy: | the pvr-500 has 2 pvr-150's on the same card, works well too |
| [15:15:00] | jonk: | no... both 150 and 250 have encoders, |
| [15:15:00] | jonk: | but the actual hardware is different |
| [15:15:00] | TUplink: | hum.... what dose a 500 run? |
| [15:15:00] | TUplink: | USD? |
| [15:16:00] | Kamy: | hold on, I'll look up my old order form |
| [15:16:00] | jonk: | less than twice the cost of 150 |
| [15:17:00] | Kamy: | well, newegg has it for 136 USD right now |
| [15:17:00] | juski: | when I said 'video decoder' – that's the term for the chip which turns video into digital ;) |
| [15:17:00] | jonk: | cool, i'd buy a third but i'm out of pci slots |
| [15:17:00] | Kamy: | it's the MCE whitebox edition, no remote control |
| [15:18:00] | TUplink: | hum.... |
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| [15:18:00] | TUplink: | let me look new egg |
| [15:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Hey any one hever the codes for the PVR 150 blaster? |
| [15:18:00] | TUplink: | how do i find out witch card i have w/o cracking the case win 2000 |
| [15:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | TUplink:use sandra |
| [15:18:00] | TUplink: | whats that |
| [15:19:00] | darkdrgn2k: | nice little proggy i found by sis |
| [15:19:00] | darkdrgn2k: | http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=SiSof . . . ch&meta= |
| [15:19:00] | TUplink: | where is it? |
| [15:19:00] | darkdrgn2k: | it'll tell you (usualy) hardware componentss names and stuff |
| [15:19:00] | darkdrgn2k: | even if driver is not installed |
| [15:20:00] | Kamy: | nice :) |
| [15:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Kamy: i know its a life saver for those integrated boards |
| [15:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | is like lspci with attitude :-D |
| [15:21:00] | xpis: | Does anyone use the feature to automatically wake the mythtv box up when it's time to record successfully? |
| [15:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | This telnet interface is nifty |
| [15:22:00] | juski: | xpis: nope – I need my backend on all the time |
| [15:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | xpis: wake on lan |
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| [15:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | xpis: but u need a computer to wake it |
| [15:24:00] | xpis: | A WRT54G would probably work. |
| [15:24:00] | Cromz: | GreyFoxx, telnet interface? something new? :) |
| [15:24:00] | TUplink: | what would the wintv card be in? |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | cromz just commited last night |
| [15:24:00] | salog: | this is my xorg.conf http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0I3XbB28.html, but i only get 1600x1200 and the logs say: I810(0): Not using mode "1280x768_60.00" (no mode of this name). Any idea? |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | a telnet interface for controlling a frontend |
| [15:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | TUplink: look at system summary under mm devices |
| [15:24:00] | TUplink: | device maybe |
| [15:25:00] | TUplink: | gotta wait for this to finsh |
| [15:25:00] | darkdrgn2k: | xpis: you still need a backend to figure out WHEN to wake |
| [15:25:00] | TUplink: | looks kinf of like freshdiagnose |
| [15:25:00] | TUplink: | like* |
| [15:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Should make setting up a webbased control for people with palm typ edevices simple plus if you have a touch screen |
| [15:25:00] | darkdrgn2k: | if i wanted to create a small myth frontend box, but compile my own X server, whats the best wya to do it |
| [15:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i mean what distro would be the best to use |
| [15:26:00] | TUplink: | all i get is Hauppaguge WinTV 878/9 |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's like asking "what colour paint should I buy" or "what kind of car should I buy" |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's opinion based |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | form your own opinion :) |
| [15:27:00] | Mobleman: | Can someone help me what to do... I've compiled the sources right as: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html says about compiling i debian... |
| [15:28:00] | juski: | "what's the best way I can ask someone what to buy so I can waste my money by buying something I end up not liking?" |
| [15:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | TUplink: That would make it a bt878 card which would use the bttv drivers |
| [15:28:00] | Mobleman: | Now the compiling is finish... and i have lots of files about mythtv |
| [15:28:00] | juski: | this album art downloader thing is very crashy |
| [15:28:00] | TUplink: | is that a decent card? |
| [15:29:00] | Mobleman: | And "yes" i'm a noob... :) |
| [15:29:00] | juski: | TUplink: an honest answer would be NO |
| [15:29:00] | TUplink: | thats what i thought it sucks in Winblows |
| [15:29:00] | TUplink: | neways gotta jety bbl |
| [15:29:00] | juski: | bt878 was first made, what.. 15 years ago or something? |
| [15:30:00] | juski: | certainly at least 10 years ago |
| [15:31:00] | coffee88: | darkdrgn2k: Gentoo? But you really better enjoy watching compile messages going by.... |
| [15:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | TUplink: bt878 works well |
| [15:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | coffee88: i know but i figured its the only way i can get my old ait radeon to do video out.. compile the gatos patch into X |
| [15:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | TUplink: just eachs juice |
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| [15:38:00] | sskk: | Is there a shell tool to communicate with the mythbackend, so that I e.g. could tell it to go to live mode" |
| [15:40:00] | dasOp: | didnt someone write such a thing per request? or perhaps it was a tcp interface |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | sssk: What do you mean live mode ? |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | the backend does recording and such, the frontend handles playback |
| [15:41:00] | Wole: | darkdrgn2k: ppl have had some success with gentoo i think – there is a howtoo as well somewhere |
| [15:41:00] | Kelerion: | I see chris has just submitted a port based control in svn.. thats for frontend |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | so if you mean controlling the frontend then yes, as of last night there is a telnet interface to control a frrontend |
| [15:42:00] | sskk: | GreyFoxx: I mean that "somthing" is recorded to the live-buffer |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been experimenting with it for the last 20 minutes |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | sskk: That would be a frontend think. The frontend instructs the backend to start recording and the frontend plays it back |
| [15:42:00] | Kelerion: | GreyFoxx: is it handy? |
| [15:42:00] | Mobleman: | GreyFoxx: The IceWM won't start... |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: It's sweet |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mobleman: Google is your friend |
| [15:43:00] | Kelerion: | I saw it in the commits and I liked the sound of it |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | take your error and go find out what it means |
| [15:43:00] | Kamy: | GreyFoxx: what is the telnet interface called, and where can I find it? |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: It's really neat. I can thnk of several uses for it |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kamy: It doesn't really have a name. It's just a Network Control interface |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it was commited to the svn code last night |
| [15:44:00] | Kelerion: | Myth-Ability-To-Contol-By-Direct-Port-Access? |
| [15:44:00] | Kelerion: | doesn't seem catchy enough |
| [15:45:00] | Kamy: | haha |
| [15:45:00] | sskk: | GreyFoxx: yes. It's just that I don't want the frontend to playback, but I want to send the backend the message the frontend sends, so the backend will start filling up the live-buffer (am I completely off track?) |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | 2006-01–22 11:35:21.163 NetworkControl: Listening for remote connections on port 6546 |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | 2006-01–22 11:35:26.741 NetworkControl: New connection established |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | sskk: you would have to write something on your own to do that |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | basically a "fake" frontend to setup a livetv stream |
| [15:46:00] | Kelerion: | or.. nasty approach.. use the same interface mythweb uses to set a manual recording from now-to-whenever |
| [15:46:00] | sskk: | GreyFoxx: ok. Thanks for answering. I was hoping someone had already done that, but that doesn't seem to be the case |
| [15:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | sskk: I don'tsee why you would do that |
| [15:47:00] | sskk: | I want VLC to stream the live signal? |
| [15:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | VLC wouldn't understand the Myth Ringbuffer from 0.18 and before |
| [15:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it wouldn't understand how the newly rewritten livetv code works either |
| [15:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | You are better off just getting vlc to stream directly from the tuner |
| [15:48:00] | sskk: | well ok.. so it will not be a way to go |
| [15:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I do that when I'm at work sometimes |
| [15:48:00] | sskk: | ok. thanks. will try to work in that direction instead then. |
| [15:49:00] | Kelerion: | GreyFoxx: have you tried the NX stuff yet? |
| [15:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | The what ? :) |
| [15:49:00] | Kelerion: | remote x / vnc / type thing |
| [15:50:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.nomachine.com/download.php |
| [15:50:00] | Kelerion: | it is a hell of a lot nicer than vnc |
| [15:50:00] | Kelerion: | faster |
| [15:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Never heard of it before |
| [15:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [15:51:00] | Kelerion: | I tried it last night.. I opened a session to my backend.. setup a frontend on it and I could see video! |
| [15:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | wanting video or just a preview windows ? |
| [15:52:00] | Kelerion: | I was just trying it out.. if I vnc into that same machine.. and go to Watch TV..I just get a blue screen in vnc.. blue where the video is supposed to be |
| [15:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Right cause the box is outputing via xv, not x11 calls |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [15:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | odds are that thing is causing ti to fallback to regular x calls |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | I can see the preview windows though.. so that must use a different output |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | in vnc |
| [15:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, regular x calls |
| [15:54:00] | Kelerion: | I thought it was quite a good debugging tool though for setting up your frontends |
| [15:55:00] | Kelerion: | it's actually released under gpl.. so if you download the source and compile it yourself.. all is fine |
| [15:56:00] | Kelerion: | although that fact seems to be hidden somewhere in the FAQ.. lol |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [15:58:00] | Kelerion: | I think vnc is damn handy.. I use it daily.. but it's speed, even over a lan, can sometimes be a pain |
| [15:59:00] | ** Kelerion finally finds his dissolved biscuit at the bottom of his coffee ** | |
| [15:59:00] | the-FoX: | anyone gt a good howto of installing nxserver under linux ? |
| [15:59:00] | Kelerion: | I hate it when that happens |
| [15:59:00] | Kelerion: | the-FoX: it's all on the nomachine website |
| [16:00:00] | Wole: | Kelerion: Wow! NX is cool... thanks |
| [16:00:00] | Kelerion: | see? I've started a trend.. lol |
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| [16:01:00] | Kelerion: | and it runs over ssh seamlessly.. which is a bonus for the security concious |
| [16:01:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. I need a fresh coffee.. brb :) |
| [16:01:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, you work for nomachine do ya? :P |
| [16:04:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. lol.. saw it mentioned on freshmeat last night |
| [16:05:00] | Cromz: | lol :) I'll look at it to. I use vnc daily to but accross the internet via ssh. and it is slow sometimes. |
| [16:05:00] | Kelerion: | downloaded it.. installed it on my backend.. downloaded the client for my xp machine and tried it out.. was nice |
| [16:05:00] | Kelerion: | apparently it works very nicely over a dialup.. which if you've ever tried with vnc is a royal pita |
| [16:07:00] | Kelerion: | I thought it was really cool when they implemented vino into gnome.. now.. if they did the same with this.. it would be excellent |
| [16:07:00] | rjune: | NX is quite a bit better than vnc |
| [16:07:00] | rjune: | it'll tranmit audio and print jobs too |
| [16:07:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [16:08:00] | Kelerion: | although audio didn't work for me last night.. but it's the first time I've played with it so I probably didn't set it up right |
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| [16:16:00] | juski: | heh.. people are waking up to the fact that HDTV in the UK won't be MPEG2, and they don't like it |
| [16:16:00] | Kelerion: | what will it be if not mpeg2? I've not been following it |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | they also don't like the idea of the analogue bandspace being sold to the highest bidder |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | mpeg4 |
| [16:17:00] | Kelerion: | ah |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | slash h.264 (same thing just about innit) |
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| [16:21:00] | Vantage__: | what's the setting to have xine exit when it's done playing and where might I find it? |
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| [16:21:00] | juski: | so I reckon the mobile companies will battle it out so they can use the space for DVB-H (mobile phone TV) |
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| [16:22:00] | Kelerion: | Vantage: xine -pfhq --no-splash %s |
| [16:22:00] | Kelerion: | I think |
| [16:24:00] | sPiN-: | morning fellas |
| [16:24:00] | Vantage__: | Kelerion: thanks |
| [16:24:00] | juski: | that's the option I use & I think that's what it does |
| [16:24:00] | sPiN-: | i got the mythplugins installed yesterday and i think i have played with most of them, but id like to try out the browser |
| [16:24:00] | juski: | it's no biggier to hit the exit key on the remote if you have xine configured for LIRC |
| [16:24:00] | sPiN-: | so where do i point my browser so i can see the program guide from another computer? |
| [16:25:00] | Kelerion: | http://backendserverip/mythweb |
| [16:25:00] | sPiN-: | thanks Kelerion! |
| [16:25:00] | Kelerion: | *if* you've setup mythweb |
| [16:25:00] | sPiN-: | ohh i dont think ive done that.... |
| [16:26:00] | Kelerion: | read the readme.txt in the mythweb directory |
| [16:26:00] | sPiN-: | thanks again |
| [16:26:00] | Kelerion: | np |
| [16:29:00] | Kamy: | does anybody use mythstream to stream internet radio? |
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| [16:30:00] | Ediehow: | can i get mythtv to use gl2 mplayer driver? |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ediehow: For mythvideo ? Sure, just edit the playback string |
| [16:31:00] | Ediehow: | but doesn't mythtv and playing videos use mplayer? |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [16:31:00] | Ediehow: | oh |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mythtv has it's own internal player |
| [16:31:00] | Ediehow: | and it can't use gl2 instead of xv? |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythvideo however is configurable |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not unless you write the code to support it |
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| [16:32:00] | salog: | hi, my xorg.conf: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2twd9z19.html instead of 1280x768 i get 1600x1200. any ideas? |
| [16:35:00] | Kelerion: | that logfile looks incomplete.. further up is should say why that mode isn't valid |
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| [16:42:00] | Ediehow: | 2006-01–22 10:42:01.502 WriteAudio: buffer underrun |
| [16:42:00] | Ediehow: | how do i stop those? |
| [16:42:00] | TUplink: | dose the wintv-pvr-usb2 work w/ fedora? |
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| [16:44:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
| [16:45:00] | fir3st0rm: | could someone pls take a look at my database? i wanted to upgrade from 0.18 to svn but it fails |
| [16:46:00] | TUplink: | will the pvr150mce work with fedora? |
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| [16:50:00] | Cromz: | TUplink, yes |
| [16:50:00] | TUplink: | my bigest consern is that i have linux drivers |
| [16:51:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, so this thing has a built in ssh client huh.. nice. so I wont have to open a ssh terminal and do port forwarding like with vnc. ;) |
| [16:51:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. can even set a startup script if you want one |
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| [16:52:00] | Kelerion: | I have it setup like that for ssh.. so if I login as a specific user it opens up some monitoring stuff |
| [16:53:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, now to figure out what all I need to download and setup lol yaya I know.. I found the page :> |
| [16:53:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [16:53:00] | Kelerion: | it's really easy.. nxclient and nxserver.. then run the nxserver --install dist.. if it doesn't do it for ya |
| [16:53:00] | TUplink: | so what other brands work? |
| [16:54:00] | Kelerion: | thats enough to play with.. then you can start configuring it and playing |
| [16:54:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, I'm looking at the dev stuff so I no gotta pay :P |
| [16:54:00] | Kelerion: | yup yup |
| [16:54:00] | Kelerion: | they hid that in the faq.. lol |
| [16:54:00] | TUplink: | dose AverTV |
| [16:54:00] | TUplink: | work |
| [16:55:00] | Kelerion: | TUplink: yes |
| [16:55:00] | Kelerion: | I have an avermedia studio working |
| [16:55:00] | Kelerion: | had |
| [16:55:00] | TUplink: | all of them work even PCMCIA? |
| [16:55:00] | Cromz: | I'm poor lol spent to much on my myth box. I can't justify spending $70 to check my e-mail. after the 400 on the new monitor for myth. and and and |
| [16:55:00] | Kelerion: | anything that runs the conexants have a damn good chance of working |
| [16:56:00] | Kelerion: | Cromz: it all adds up.. I just bought myself a new TV for christmas.. so now I'm having to be careful.. lol |
| [16:56:00] | Kelerion: | don't know about the pcmcia..never used them |
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| [16:57:00] | Kelerion: | TUplink: if it works in linux..and provides a /dev/ interface... then myth can use it |
| [16:58:00] | Kelerion: | TUplink: look at: http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-pvrhwdb.php |
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| [17:00:00] | jonk: | Cromz: A year ago i thought to myself, why, why am I paying tivo $13 a month when I can just build a mythbox |
| [17:00:00] | jonk: | well, over $1000 later i have my mythbox |
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| [17:00:00] | jonk: | that would have paid tivo 13 a month for nearly 10 years |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, but are you forgetting the initial cost of the tivo itself? And the fact that you likely have many more features now ? |
| [17:01:00] | Kelerion: | people shouldn't be building mythboxes to save money |
| [17:01:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: I agree |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hell I built my first mythbox with spare parts |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | cost me $0 |
| [17:02:00] | Kelerion: | same here |
| [17:02:00] | jonk: | lets see,, inital cost $130 + 9th-tee network card, and second drive... lets say 300 total |
| [17:02:00] | Kelerion: | it's a good way to get into it.. then you can decide if you want more |
| [17:02:00] | jonk: | oh, still have the tivo, |
| [17:02:00] | EricL: | The only thing that cost me money about my Myth box is the extra drive I bought to store the saved media (which was a 200G drive that I picked up for $85). |
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| [17:03:00] | jonk: | I had the box and the first drive, but have purchased 2 extra drives for space, a 350, 2x500 and an hd3000 |
| [17:03:00] | Cromz: | http://gallery.cromz.com/main.php?g2_view=cor . . . _itemId=2435 my myth. parts from my main and combined with stuff they got rid of from work. now a dual amd 2600+ 1 gig ram, 30gig boot, 60 gig myth (ring buff / recording storage ) and 1 terrabyte fileserver, mp3, video ;) dont mind the mess.. stil cleaning around it :P |
| [17:03:00] | jonk: | and am thinking aboud rebuilding the box now — i think the VIA dma stuff screws things up |
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| [17:04:00] | jonk: | so want to replace it |
| [17:04:00] | jonk: | and want a more quiet deal |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cromz: Nice monitor |
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| [17:05:00] | Cromz: | GreyFoxx, ya.. sceptre 20.1 wide.. ;) |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't seen a sceptre monitor in a while |
| [17:05:00] | Kelerion: | I couldn't justify spending all I have if the wife didn't get to use it.. so I put it all in a nice case – hid the wires.. and now she shouts at me if she can't use it.. lol |
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| [17:06:00] | TUplink: | what bout a Philips SAA713XH Chipset |
| [17:06:00] | Kelerion: | Cromz: what are you running on that beast? |
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| [17:06:00] | Kelerion: | TUplink: did you look at the link I posted?? |
| [17:06:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, lol my wife is getting to be more linux savy ;), that myth of mine had lockups. onboard audio and lan.. she replaced the sound card, disabled the onboard and no more lockups ;) |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | TUplink: you woul be hardpressed to get anyone to recommend a capture card for analog that isn't a pvr150/500 |
| [17:06:00] | Cromz: | Fedora core 3, smp |
| [17:07:00] | Baylink: | I saw a 24" dell for 1100 yesterday somewher. |
| [17:07:00] | Baylink: | LCD, that is. |
| [17:07:00] | Kelerion: | Cromz: nice |
| [17:07:00] | Mobleman: | Cromz: Which theme? |
| [17:07:00] | Baylink: | I want a 40 inch for my office desk. I'm getting old. :-) |
| [17:07:00] | TUplink: | Kelerion thers is only like 6 difrent cards there |
| [17:07:00] | Cromz: | Mobleman, Project-GreyHem-wide ;) |
| [17:07:00] | Kelerion: | TUplink: there's 46 pages! |
| [17:08:00] | TUplink: | what? |
| [17:08:00] | TUplink: | hold on |
| [17:08:00] | TUplink: | oh.. i didnt see next page |
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| [17:09:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, course now that I hacked the theme.xml to add X10 stuff my wife is wanting to buy more modules for x10 lol it's great. ;) I need to get a few shots of the x10 menu ;) |
| [17:09:00] | Kelerion: | Cromz: thats my new project too.. starting it in earnest in Feb.. am looking forward to it |
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| [17:10:00] | Kelerion: | myth has been a project for a couple of years in this house now.. am looking for something else to do (I get bored! lol) |
| [17:11:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, the x10 firecracker was the easiest for me witht eh 'linux bottle rocket' software. only 1 clitch so far. the com port always gets root access only. lol I havnt' sat down to fix that on boot. |
| [17:11:00] | whyz_: | hello.. got a little question. Do you know if it's possible to use the PVR-350 tv-out as a framebuffer device, so that i can see the console on the tv? The tv is the only monitor connected to the my pvr |
| [17:11:00] | Kelerion: | Cromz: just put a chmod is the rc.local.. dirty but works.. lol |
| [17:12:00] | Mobleman: | Check this out!! :D http://www.stormeren.dk/article_view.php?id=80 |
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| [17:14:00] | Kelerion: | Mobleman: have seen stuff like that before |
| [17:14:00] | Mobleman: | Yea... but this guy is Danish!! :S |
| [17:14:00] | Mobleman: | :D: |
| [17:15:00] | Kelerion: | do it with a merc shell and fit a via board in it.. then it'll be nice :) |
| [17:16:00] | Kelerion: | I still like the humidor one.. I thought that was classy |
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| [17:17:00] | Cromz: | there are a couple of those on www.mini-itx.com site. |
| [17:17:00] | Cromz: | look on the right side for htpc htpc2 |
| [17:17:00] | Mobleman: | Kelerion: merc shell? |
| [17:18:00] | Kelerion: | Mercedes.. wider base |
| [17:18:00] | Kelerion: | Mobleman: look at: http://www.mini-itx.com/projects.asp |
| [17:19:00] | Kelerion: | the supra is a full blow pc |
| [17:19:00] | Cromz: | The "Supra-Server" boooo hissssssssssss |
| [17:19:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [17:21:00] | Kelerion: | Cromz: theres a Ford Focus there if you prefer.. lol |
| [17:22:00] | Cromz: | naw.. I'd want a Mustang like the one out front of my house :P |
| [17:22:00] | Cromz: | I got a '02 v6.. :P |
| [17:22:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [17:23:00] | Kelerion: | ahh.. but yer an american with yer strange and wonderful cars.. I'm british and we're boring.. lol |
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| [17:23:00] | Cromz: | LOL ya.. I got a nice picture of a car while I was in london. |
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| [17:25:00] | Cromz: | Kelerion, http://gallery.cromz.com/main.php?g2_view=cor . . . _itemId=1060 ya.. you all dont' have strange cars. ;) |
| [17:25:00] | nasa: | Hi, does anyone have experience with getting TV-out working with the ATI drivers? (fgrlrx) |
| [17:25:00] | Cromz: | thought the lettering on the ground was perfect for it. :) |
| [17:26:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
| [17:26:00] | Kelerion: | you know what that cars called? |
| [17:27:00] | Cromz: | I used to. dont' remember anymore.. I'm getting to old. lol |
| [17:27:00] | Kelerion: | it's called a "Smart Car".. and guess who makes it :P |
| [17:27:00] | Kelerion: | DaimlerChrysler |
| [17:27:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [17:27:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.smart.com/smart_uk/smart_uk_start.html |
| [17:28:00] | Cromz: | ya that's right. they have a sports car that looks cool. |
| [17:28:00] | Kelerion: | Chrysler *is* american right? :P |
| [17:29:00] | Cromz: | for the most part :P but I've seen them break off before. |
| [17:29:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [17:30:00] | Cromz: | like the plymouth cricket.. was a british layland ( I dont think that spelled right ) |
| [17:30:00] | Kelerion: | Leyland.. close enough :) |
| [17:30:00] | juski: | Cromz: nobody in their right mind owns one of those cars |
| [17:30:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [17:31:00] | Cromz: | yeah I had one once.. and the battery came loose, broke the fan blades and it trashed the radiator. got rid of that quick. |
| [17:31:00] | Kelerion: | whats daft it you see loads of them about.. with companies advertising on the sides! |
| [17:31:00] | Cromz: | not the smart car.. that cricket |
| [17:31:00] | adante: | what sort of size difference is there between recording a TS vs PS? |
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| [17:32:00] | juski: | Cromz: you mean the rubber band snapped? |
| [17:32:00] | Cromz: | juski, ya :) |
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| [17:33:00] | Cromz: | I miss london. I wanna go back there someday soon. |
| [17:33:00] | juski: | Cromz: I can recommend a night at Walthamstow dog track |
| [17:33:00] | Cromz: | course I wanna go further north next trip.. |
| [17:34:00] | juski: | don't bother with Manchester ;) |
| [17:34:00] | Kelerion: | but Leeds is worth a visit :P |
| [17:34:00] | juski: | definitely |
| [17:34:00] | juski: | Manchester's too far up its own posterior |
| [17:34:00] | Kelerion: | and isn't worth the time |
| [17:34:00] | Cromz: | whats north of leeds? |
| [17:35:00] | Kelerion: | Scotland |
| [17:35:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [17:35:00] | juski: | Newcastle is worth a visit for sure |
| [17:35:00] | Cromz: | lol not that far.. |
| [17:35:00] | juski: | that's newcastle upon tyne, not newcastle under lyme ;) |
| [17:35:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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| [17:35:00] | juski: | the most debauched nights out in the land can be had up there |
| [17:37:00] | ** Kelerion wonders which prat thought it would be a good idea to put "upon" and "under" in cities names ** | |
| [17:37:00] | Cromz: | Whitby Gothic Weekend yeah! that's where I wanna go.. |
| [17:37:00] | Kelerion: | told ya juski: we have more goths in this channel that we knew about .. lol |
| [17:37:00] | juski: | heh.. you'll have to fight past old people with walking frames in Whitby |
| [17:38:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [17:39:00] | Kelerion: | Cromz: make it in June and go to lugradio live 2006 :) |
| [17:40:00] | Cromz: | juski I will be the missing link for them.. I'm old and a goth. lol |
| [17:40:00] | Kelerion: | you'll get a prize for travelling so far.. lol |
| [17:40:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [17:40:00] | Kelerion: | cd |
| [17:40:00] | Kelerion: | oops |
| [17:41:00] | Kelerion: | thats better.. fresh install of hoary.. copied over the apt archives from another machine and now it only needs to download 19Mb for it's dist-upgrade :) |
| [17:41:00] | Kelerion: | I really need to get my local mirror up and running again.. makes life so much easier |
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| [17:49:00] | Kelerion: | I wonder what the biggest myth setup is |
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| [17:49:00] | Kelerion: | backends/frontends/slave backends etc etc |
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| [17:55:00] | juski: | I think I'm gonna have to rename a massive amount of my music collection |
| [17:55:00] | juski: | some of the rippers I've used in the past have had weird ideas about how to name files & tag them |
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| [17:57:00] | Kelerion: | do they all have id3 info? |
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| [17:59:00] | juski: | Kelerion yeah but some of it's messed up |
| [17:59:00] | juski: | like there's a mixture between stuff having bad filenames but good tags, mixed up filenames & good tags & anywhere in between |
| [17:59:00] | Kelerion: | there's plenty of id3 tag and renaming tools that'll rename whole bunches of files.. might save you *some* time |
| [18:00:00] | Kelerion: | ahh okies |
| [18:00:00] | juski: | yeh rather than re-rip them you mean |
| [18:00:00] | Kelerion: | that could take *ages* |
| [18:01:00] | Kelerion: | I have a kid that lives near me.. I give him jobs like that to do.. he loves my setup here and does anything if he can play about for a bit.. lol |
| [18:01:00] | juski: | heh |
| [18:01:00] | juski: | wouldnt trust any kids round here |
| [18:02:00] | juski: | a son of my wife's mate.. he's doing well at school & suchlike, but he's got it into his head that he wants to be a famous rapper |
| [18:02:00] | Kelerion: | I've known him a few years.. I still wouln't trust him near any of my servers.. but I've a good 20 or so computers here.. so there's always something non-critical I want doing with them |
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| [18:03:00] | juski: | showing such promise – then he decides he wants to be a 'celebrity'.. sad |
| [18:03:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [18:04:00] | Kelerion: | tell him he could be a Celebrity Know-It-All instead.. a-la Carol Vorderman etc etc.. lol |
| [18:05:00] | Kelerion: | nah.. on second thoughts.. don't tell him that.. lol |
| [18:05:00] | juski: | hrm this album art grabber is all well & good for recent-ish discs.. no use for older ones |
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| [18:06:00] | juski: | and after it's done about 200 insertions it crashes |
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| [18:09:00] | fir3_: | old error fixed new one: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zXrbQl99.html |
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| [18:17:00] | defaultro: | what could be wrong in a channel if it always show No Data in Program Guide? XMLTV ID is populated |
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| [18:30:00] | Niklas_E: | doesn't mythtv work with mysql 5? |
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| [18:32:00] | Niklas_E: | somehow after I upgraded my mysql from 4.1 to 5 mythtv won't work. I moved the mythconverg to the new version |
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| [18:34:00] | Anduin: | fir3_ – How good with mysql are you? |
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| [18:36:00] | fir3_: | i wouldn't call that good |
| [18:36:00] | fir3_: | i used phpmyadmin to (randomly) delete some db entries |
| [18:36:00] | fir3_: | but now i'm stuck :/ |
| [18:37:00] | Anduin: | You'd likely only need to change the scema version, though there is some possibility you'd need to run other queries. |
| [18:38:00] | Anduin: | fir3_ – The settings table has a DBSchemaVer see what it is |
| [18:38:00] | fir3_: | 1101 |
| [18:39:00] | Anduin: | bump it to 1102 |
| [18:39:00] | fir3_: | ok |
| [18:39:00] | fir3_: | now another error comes up |
| [18:39:00] | kormoc: | fir3_, did the error happen on schema update? |
| [18:40:00] | fir3_: | now it doesn't happen anymore |
| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | right, it only ever trys to update it once |
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| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | fir3_, are you using UTF8 as your default local on mythsql? |
| [18:41:00] | fir3_: | where do i set this? |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | [mysql] |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | character-sets-dir=utf8 |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | default-character-set=utf8 |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | for example |
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| [18:42:00] | fir3_: | there's nothing containing the word 'character' i'll add it |
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| [18:43:00] | kormoc: | nam, don't bother |
| [18:43:00] | kormoc: | *nah |
| [18:43:00] | kormoc: | it's just, there's a known issue with the schema update if that is set to utf8 |
| [18:44:00] | fir3_: | oh |
| [18:44:00] | fir3_: | then i'll remove it |
| [18:44:00] | fir3_: | ok |
| [18:45:00] | xpis: | Is there a way to turn a live tv recording into an actual (saved) recording? |
| [18:45:00] | fir3_: | can i use utf in phpmyadmin? |
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| [18:45:00] | xpis: | (without manually adding it to the database) |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | xpis, wait for .19 |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | xpis, it defaults to doing that |
| [18:45:00] | xpis: | I'm using svn. |
| [18:46:00] | kormoc: | fir3_, sure |
| [18:46:00] | xpis: | Should I update? |
| [18:46:00] | kormoc: | xpis, then what's the issue? |
| [18:46:00] | xpis: | How do I access live tv recordings through the menu then/ |
| [18:46:00] | kormoc: | xpis, it should just show up, they do for myself |
| [18:47:00] | Niklas_E: | anyone useing mysql version 5 with mythtv? |
| [18:47:00] | Anduin: | xpis – You need to use a filter that shows them. |
| [18:47:00] | xpis: | Only scheduled recordings show up for me. |
| [18:47:00] | Kelerion: | press M to set filter |
| [18:47:00] | Kelerion: | (I think) |
| [18:47:00] | kormoc: | Niklas_E, I do |
| [18:47:00] | kormoc: | there's an option in the frontend setup that has, show live tv with other saved recordings and what not |
| [18:48:00] | fir3_: | what's the current mythtv db version? |
| [18:48:00] | fir3_: | well |
| [18:48:00] | fir3_: | seems like i did it |
| [18:49:00] | Anduin: | fir3_ – 1122 |
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| [18:50:00] | Anduin: | fir3_ – you can look at dbcheck.cpp and your tables to make sure everything is really ok. |
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| [18:51:00] | fir3_: | my osd is gone now |
| [18:52:00] | awb4422: | anyone know of a place i can just buy the a/v cable for the pvr-350? |
| [18:53:00] | fir3_: | ok defaultosd is still working |
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| [18:56:00] | ** Kelerion wonders why mythweb is still talking to the backend when I've just done a svn up and there was a protocol bump last night ** | |
| [18:56:00] | Kelerion: | or was there |
| [18:57:00] | kormoc: | one would assume not, given it's working |
| [18:58:00] | Kelerion: | I thought the telnet interface bumped it.. my mistake |
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| [19:06:00] | Kelerion: | ok – that telnet stuff is sweet |
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| [19:06:00] | wylie: | the sa3250hd tuner (firewire) is so frustrating-- tuners have such sloppy ieee1394 ports. if you reboot or move a cable, it can take hours to get it working again. then, as long as you don't change anything with the tuner->pc connection, it works flawlessly. |
| [19:07:00] | wylie: | I tried to move a 1394 card to another (much faster) system, and it stops streaming within 60 seconds every time. then you have to fiddle with it for an hour (switching cables, repowering, etc) to make it work again. |
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| [19:08:00] | Kelerion: | wasn't there something about a "bus reset" that was supposed to help with stuff like that? |
| [19:08:00] | wylie: | on my laptops with ieee1394 ports, it works almost every time — I guess I am to assume those 1394 ports are much better |
| [19:08:00] | wylie: | bus reset for the sa3250hd? or something else? [just arrived here a minute ago] |
| [19:09:00] | Kelerion: | it was something about firewire.. I don't use it so wasn't taking much notice |
| [19:09:00] | Kelerion: | it's in the archives though |
| [19:09:00] | adante: | hurm |
| [19:09:00] | wylie: | mythtv-users archives or irc ? |
| [19:10:00] | Kelerion: | -dev |
| [19:10:00] | wylie: | ok |
| [19:10:00] | Kelerion: | though I think it was mentioned in -user at one point |
| [19:10:00] | adante: | i'm trying to transcode mpeg2->4, got the quality settings at 1/5, bitrate 4mbit, all boxes are checked... it's producing transcodes with effective bitrates of under a meg... what's going on? |
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| [19:11:00] | wylie: | Kelerion — found what you were referring to in my gmail search — thanks. will read up, there are a few threads — but it was recent discussion on doing a "force bus reset" with gscanbus |
| [19:12:00] | wylie: | might be helpful |
| [19:12:00] | wylie: | thx |
| [19:12:00] | Kelerion: | np.. hope it helps |
| [19:14:00] | wylie: | unfortunately it didn't. ;) gscanbus is for DCT's. I'm stuck with SA3250HDs. will keep digging – but I think it has more to do with linux1394 drivers. based on jarod's notes on firewire, most firewire cards simply don't work well. you have to find the right combo |
| [19:15:00] | Kelerion: | ahh okies |
| [19:15:00] | wylie: | or rather gscanbus resolve is for a problem with DCTs. when the SA3250 works, it works great — but then don't touch it ! ;) |
| [19:16:00] | Kelerion: | I presonally don't trust anything that is designed to be hot pluggable.. never seems reliable |
| [19:17:00] | Kelerion: | I wonder if the ATI drivers have had any major updates in the last month |
| [19:17:00] | ** Kelerion goes to check ** | |
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| [19:18:00] | juski: | yeh my firewire drive needs to be plugged in, unplugged & re-replugged in from time to time |
| [19:19:00] | wylie: | to get the sa tuner to work, I have to frequently have to plug (2) computers into both of its ports – then unplug / switch / unplug and then leave one computer plugged in and work from that |
| [19:19:00] | Kelerion: | sounds painful |
| [19:19:00] | wylie: | then get streaming working from test-mpeg2 (or not, reboot, retry above process) |
| [19:19:00] | wylie: | it is so painful |
| [19:20:00] | wylie: | but when it works, I have 20 HD channels on a plasma.... a TV I was always disappointed with until I bought HD3000 and Air2PC HD5000 for QAM256 over Cable and OTA.... but then, that was only the basic network HDs |
| [19:20:00] | juski: | from a hardware point of view, firewire isn't the easiest of protocols to write software for, which is probably where problems creep in |
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| [19:21:00] | wylie: | its ridiculous what the compusa's and bestbuy's want to charge for 1394 cables. what you can get for $0.99 on Ebay, CompUSA wants $39. |
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| [19:22:00] | juski: | sounds like the Dixons group of companies over here.. only they want £39 |
| [19:22:00] | juski: | they do stock very good gold plated optical cables though ;-) |
| [19:23:00] | Kelerion: | I remember paying that for a 2 meter USB cable for my printer.. that was at dixons too.. ridiculous |
| [19:23:00] | Kelerion: | or was it 20 quid..either way was expensive |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | gold plated optical cables? |
| [19:23:00] | ** kormoc would think that the gold plating would block the optical signal... ** | |
| [19:23:00] | juski: | remember going with someone to pick up a £20 printer... of course it didn't include a USB lead... £15 for one of them... and the cartridges... ! |
| [19:24:00] | juski: | kormoc: I was kidding, but they actually sell gold plated optical cables |
| [19:24:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. in some cases it's actually cheaper to buy a new printer now than replace the cartriges |
| [19:24:00] | juski: | tried one of those refill kits the other day.. quite nifty apart from the stickers you get to cover the sealing plug |
| [19:25:00] | Kelerion: | never tried one.. always looked messy.. lol |
| [19:25:00] | juski: | £10 for 4 black refills & 6 CMY refills |
| [19:25:00] | Kelerion: | thats cheap |
| [19:25:00] | juski: | Costco :) |
| [19:25:00] | Kelerion: | cool.. got one of those a couple of miles away |
| [19:26:00] | juski: | and cos my printer's an HP model I don't need worry about using crap ink.. if the nozzles get blocked I'll just buy an original cart |
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| [19:26:00] | Kelerion: | got one of those lexmark all in ones here.. not bad when it works |
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| [19:35:00] | whyz_: | hey.. anyone knows how i can use a framebuffer console on the hauppauge pvr-350 tv-out? |
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| [19:37:00] | juski: | Kelerion: I like that – 'when it works'... |
| [19:37:00] | ** juski notes never to buy a Lexmark ** | |
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| [19:38:00] | xris: | lexmark has horrid linux driver support, too |
| [19:38:00] | laga: | my hp works quite well. i just think that cups sucks, that's all |
| [19:40:00] | juski: | cups are good for holding your drinks though ;) |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | I perfer mugs |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | they tend to have handy handles |
| [19:41:00] | juski: | LOL.. Apache Indian – Boom-shaka-lak: Genre: Rock. I don't fscking think so |
| [19:41:00] | laga: | bah. a bottle should be enough for everyone. |
| [19:42:00] | juski: | is there a Genre tag for 'shite' yet? |
| [19:42:00] | laga: | 'black beat' |
| [19:42:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [19:43:00] | juski: | arrrrrrrrrrr and beeeeeeeeeeee ? |
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| [19:44:00] | laga: | hrhr |
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| [19:49:00] | psofa: | what filename does myth expect for the video thumbnails? |
| [19:49:00] | psofa: | and what format? |
| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | you mean the animated ones or the nonanimated ones? |
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| [19:50:00] | kormoc: | nonanimated ones are filename.nuv.png |
| [19:50:00] | kormoc: | animated ones are actually just live scaled playback of the video file |
| [19:51:00] | juski: | animated thumbnails? |
| [19:51:00] | juski: | ?! |
| [19:51:00] | Kelerion: | previews |
| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | juski, yeah, in the watch recording section |
| [19:51:00] | juski: | heh... |
| [19:52:00] | juski: | psofa: are you talking about mythvideo? |
| [19:52:00] | psofa: | yes |
| [19:53:00] | juski: | filename of the graphic is just the folder name I think |
| [19:53:00] | juski: | and you can just use any format you like, within reason |
| [19:53:00] | Kelerion: | I wanna know why my previews are always in 4:3.. when they're supposed to be in 16:9 .. and I'm blaming Juski :P |
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| [19:54:00] | juski: | Kelerion: my previews work fine in the wide theme |
| [19:55:00] | Kelerion: | I took screenshots to send you.. but didn't bother.. figured it wasn't important |
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| [19:55:00] | Kelerion: | the previews are fine in, say, retro.. |
| [19:55:00] | juski: | I'm on holiday from Project Grayhem for a while |
| [19:55:00] | Kelerion: | or any other 4:3 theme |
| [19:55:00] | Kelerion: | it's ok.. it ain't important :) |
| [19:56:00] | juski: | change it yeself and send me the patch ;) |
| [19:56:00] | Kelerion: | well.. I'll have a look.. but don't hold yer breath.. lol |
| [19:56:00] | psofa: | juski, do you know if i can have them on the same directory as the videos |
| [19:56:00] | psofa: | ? |
| [19:57:00] | Kelerion: | psofa: thats where my thumbnails are stored |
| [19:57:00] | psofa: | nice :) |
| [19:57:00] | Kelerion: | oh |
| [19:57:00] | Kelerion: | mythvideo.. |
| [19:57:00] | Kelerion: | was thinking of tv |
| [19:58:00] | psofa: | what would be nice is if i could create the thumbnails in a batch |
| [19:58:00] | psofa: | now ill have to create them one by one :( |
| [19:58:00] | Kelerion: | mythvideo has thumbnails??? |
| [19:58:00] | psofa: | yes |
| [19:58:00] | awb4422: | juski: i pm'ed you, not sure if you saw it |
| [19:58:00] | Kelerion: | I know it has cover-art (dvd covers etc) |
| [19:59:00] | juski: | awb4422: yeh saw it but please no more uninvited PMs ;) |
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| [20:00:00] | awb4422: | juski: ok sorry |
| [20:00:00] | juski: | np... |
| [20:01:00] | juski: | it's nice when people appreciate hard work & don't say "But..." |
| [20:02:00] | Kelerion: | I didn't say "But" lol |
| [20:02:00] | Kelerion: | and it is appreciate |
| [20:02:00] | Kelerion: | d |
| [20:03:00] | juski: | oh shit I am _never_ going to not bother ripping music myself in future.. christ these files are a _mess_ |
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| [20:04:00] | rtsai: | is anyone regularly using liveTV in SVN? |
| [20:05:00] | juski: | rtsai: I expect lots of people are. why the metaquestion? |
| [20:05:00] | kormoc: | rtsai, regularly no, from time to time, yes |
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| [20:11:00] | rtsai: | i was watching liveTV for the first time in awhile, and it just kind hung at a program boundary (3pm); I just exited and re-entered liveTV with no problem. |
| [20:12:00] | rtsai: | (American football playoffs) |
| [20:12:00] | rtsai: | so it'll be 3 hours before I get to test this piece of live TV again. |
| [20:12:00] | xpis: | rtsai: when did you update last? |
| [20:14:00] | rtsai: | yesterday |
| [20:14:00] | rtsai: | (xpis) |
| [20:14:00] | rtsai: | I'm at [8675] |
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| [20:17:00] | Chutt: | rtsai, if you can repro it easily, that'd be good. daniel + i have both run live-tv for hours with having it switch every 20 seconds or so with no hangs |
| [20:18:00] | rtsai: | Chutt: how do you have it switch all the time? This was a programming boundary ... but yeah, I'll keep an eye out. This is an NFL game, so it'll be 3 hours :). |
| [20:19:00] | kormoc: | The only issue I've had with livetv was on a channel change, ivtv locked up. |
| [20:19:00] | rtsai: | No, I'm on an HD-3000-only system. |
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| [20:27:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, I still can't get it work. I know I'm doing it right. I selected channels from zap2it and ran mythfilldatabase. Am I correct that I should imported channels including the program guide? |
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| [20:27:00] | defaultro: | i selected 6 channels and 2 were only imported properly |
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| [20:42:00] | gdi2k: | Hi, I'm just getting started with mythtv, and I'm having trouble getting channels set up. I'm using DVB-S in Germany. When I perform a scan, I get "ERROR – Setup: Sending init command failed." on my console. Any ideas? |
| [20:46:00] | defaultro: | I saw anothe issue in pre .19. When you are watching Watch Tv, and you press up and down channel to show the channel, program gets paused everytime the channel info is displayed |
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| [20:47:00] | defaultro: | another issue is, when in Watch TV, the program that gets tuned is like robot. It's similar to a strutt effect |
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| [20:48:00] | defII: | Anyone it a pvr-150 know what this is about: ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 |
| [20:48:00] | defaultro: | to fix it, I pause it and unpause it again, then playback becomes normal. This always happen when changing channels |
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| [20:49:00] | thma: | i have mythtv installed but how do i run it i have tried mythtv, mtv, and myth |
| [20:49:00] | defaultro: | another issue is the Picture n Picture. When it gets shown, the second picture that is supposed to be on the top left, is actually taking up the whole top half. Stretches from leftmost to rightmost. So people are really like dwarves |
| [20:51:00] | defaultro: | Also, in Live tv, when watching 16:9 then it becomes 4:3, channel numbers gets truncated or over written by the program guide. Example, previosly WTTW-11DT becomes WTTW- |
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| [20:52:00] | diode: | i'm having a problem getting lirc working with my pvr150 |
| [20:53:00] | diode: | the receiver is USB |
| [20:55:00] | juski: | hi diode |
| [20:55:00] | defaultro: | juski hi |
| [20:55:00] | defaultro: | any ideas about this issue |
| [20:55:00] | juski: | do USB receivers even work with LIRC? some of them operate like keyboard devices – watch out for that |
| [20:56:00] | defaultro: | mythfilldatabase doesn't really fill LOL |
| [20:56:00] | juski: | defaultro: seems like you have some aspect ratio issues |
| [20:56:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [20:56:00] | defaultro: | but am more concerend about the program guides |
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| [20:56:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, did you perhaps change the aspect ratio? |
| [20:56:00] | defaultro: | i have selected channels in zap2it but i don't receive the guide |
| [20:56:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | i can live with the channel info like that |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | i want to get the program guide working first |
| [20:57:00] | juski: | defaultro: I've never used zap2it, and I can't even try it, so I don't know how to help |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | kormoc, are you using zap2it? |
| [20:57:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | here is my issue |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | i selected 6 channels in zap2it |
| [20:57:00] | defaultro: | i ran mythfilldatabase and they got retrieve |
| [20:58:00] | defaultro: | however, only 2 channels had program guide |
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| [20:58:00] | defaultro: | they are local US channels |
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| [20:58:00] | kormoc: | viewing the data via the website shows guide data? |
| [20:59:00] | defaultro: | CBS, NBC, WGN, ABC, PBS |
| [20:59:00] | defaultro: | guide data? |
| [20:59:00] | defaultro: | you mean in my mythweb? |
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| [20:59:00] | kormoc: | on zap2it |
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| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | all i know that in zap2it, we can only see the channels we like right? |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | i mean, it's a checkbox |
| [21:00:00] | kormoc: | ooh, right |
| [21:00:00] | kormoc: | I thought for some reason there was a way to view the data on there |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | i selected the 6 channels I like |
| [21:00:00] | thma: | so after installing what is the command to start mythtv just give mt that |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | i haven't tried that yet |
| [21:00:00] | defaultro: | thma, howto |
| [21:01:00] | defaultro: | you have to run backend first then frontend |
| [21:01:00] | thma: | ah |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | thma, it's in the manual. You need to run mythtv-setup on the master backend, run the backend, and then the frontend. |
| [21:01:00] | defaultro: | any more clues kormoc? I do see the xmltvid which is really needed for the program guide |
| [21:01:00] | thma: | manuels suck most of the time |
| [21:01:00] | defaultro: | not mythtv |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | thma, well, you should look before judging... |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | then go |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, what about mythfilldatabase --refresh-all ? |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | wow, i will try that :) |
| [21:02:00] | thma: | i am tired of trying to get a recorder set up nothing that records will install |
| [21:02:00] | defaultro: | i didn't know --refresh-all |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, mythfilldatabase --help shows a lot :) |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | thanks, it's runing |
| [21:03:00] | kormoc: | thma, if you had specific questions, we could help likely |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | i'm hoping that it will fix it |
| [21:03:00] | defaultro: | how many tuners do you have? |
| [21:03:00] | thma: | all i want is something to work and apt-get install myth suite is not working |
| [21:04:00] | defaultro: | looks like i got disconncted. TESTING |
| [21:04:00] | kormoc: | thma, what's not working? did you run mythtv-setup and setup things correctly? is the backend running? is there anything in the log files? myth requires work to get going, if you want plug and play, Windows MCE is likely more for you. |
| [21:04:00] | matchthis: | must go today message me if interestedon aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 only if your interested and want to buy! . prices are 550 each includes shipping case and wireless router.2 alienware products, 1 area51-m 5700 notebook, and one area51 7500 desktop tower system. |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | kormoc, did you see my message? |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | matchthis, don't spam the channel |
| [21:05:00] | laga: | 7kickban matchthis |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, sure did |
| [21:05:00] | thma: | backend or front end i dont remember wont install because of dependancies and these required something else and i am getting tired of this |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, were you asking me how many tuners I have? |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | ye[ |
| [21:05:00] | thma: | windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | ahh, I have one right now |
| [21:05:00] | thma: | YOU SHOULD BE SHOT |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [21:05:00] | defaultro: | thma, huh |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | what's your problem? |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | YOU ARE THE MAN KORMOC |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | that --refresh-all fix it |
| [21:06:00] | kormoc: | yay :) |
| [21:06:00] | thma: | he reccomended windows and i am in a bad mood a friend commited suicide last night |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | what is wrong with it then before? |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | i think i should add --refresh-all in my crontab |
| [21:06:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [21:07:00] | kormoc: | thma, then maybe you shouldn't be taking it out in a channel. Maybe going to get some professional help might be in order... |
| [21:07:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, heh, should only need to do it once |
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| [21:08:00] | thma: | i just hat it when linux dont work it works so good most of the time but its these dam dependancies that apt sources dont provide |
| [21:08:00] | thma: | I am sorry to get so mad |
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| [21:08:00] | thma: | but i have spent 5 days installing stuff and am now asking for help nobody was helping with freevo and that pissed mem off |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | thma: i'm sure you will get help here :) mythtv has a nice community |
| [21:09:00] | defaultro: | thma, i was in the same boat as you are back in january 2005 |
| [21:09:00] | defaultro: | then they kept telling me manual, manual and manual |
| [21:09:00] | thma: | i hope so it really isnt your fault freevo couldnt answer any questions |
| [21:09:00] | defaultro: | then if you can't understand it, then tell it here |
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| [21:10:00] | defaultro: | well, i tried and was able to follow the manual |
| [21:10:00] | defaultro: | but of course, there were problems allong the way |
| [21:10:00] | defaultro: | what is your exact problem? |
| [21:10:00] | thma: | Depends: libstdc++.so.6 but it is not installable |
| [21:10:00] | thma: | Depends: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3) but it is not installable |
| [21:10:00] | thma: | Depends: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4) but it is not installable |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | thma, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installi . . . n_Debian_Sid |
| [21:10:00] | thma: | its rpm |
| [21:11:00] | thma: | pclos |
| [21:11:00] | kormoc: | what distro? |
| [21:11:00] | kormoc: | I don't think I know anyone who's ever used pclos yet along tried to install myth on it |
| [21:12:00] | kormoc: | it sounds like the maintainers fuxored up the packages. |
| [21:12:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [21:12:00] | thma: | dam them |
| [21:12:00] | kormoc: | "PCLinuxOS is currently under heavy development and should be considered beta software" |
| [21:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | thma: You could consider trying to compile it yourself. The instructions on mythtv.org should be enough to get you going. |
| [21:13:00] | thma: | ya but everythingelse works good its these dependancies |
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| [21:14:00] | diode: | juski so you think lirc doesnt work with usb? |
| [21:15:00] | kormoc: | diode, does lirc's site list it as supported? |
| [21:15:00] | diode: | im looking |
| [21:15:00] | diode: | the card is supported |
| [21:15:00] | kormoc: | so why use the usb receiver? |
| [21:15:00] | diode: | but i think thye just upgraded it to the usb receiver |
| [21:15:00] | juski: | but the IR receiver isn't part of the card |
| [21:15:00] | diode: | right |
| [21:16:00] | diode: | ir receiver is separate |
| [21:16:00] | juski: | ah you got the 'MCE kit' |
| [21:16:00] | kormoc: | so the pvr 150's ir receiver is a usb receiver? |
| [21:16:00] | juski: | don't think it is |
| [21:16:00] | juski: | pretty sure some 150 cards have a connector on the backplate for an IR receiver |
| [21:16:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [21:16:00] | diode: | well this one doesnt, i guess it is the mce |
| [21:16:00] | kormoc: | the non mce versions do I beleive |
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| [21:16:00] | diode: | is this not supported? |
| [21:17:00] | juski: | could tell you if I didn't just discard the info sheet I got with mine |
| [21:17:00] | juski: | diode: it'll probably be an MCE remote package |
| [21:17:00] | juski: | and those are supported in Linux under USB HID drivers I think (human interface devices) |
| [21:20:00] | diode: | ok, thanks |
| [21:21:00] | diode: | im looking into it... |
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| [21:26:00] | diode: | got another question for you... |
| [21:27:00] | diode: | after i installed mythtv an set up the box to auto login and such, on booting it gets stuck on Nautilus for about 4–5 minutes |
| [21:27:00] | diode: | doesnt freeze, i can still do stuff in the background and itll eventually finish, what could have caused this? |
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| [21:32:00] | diode: | any ideas why it might take a long time to boot? |
| [21:32:00] | kormoc: | what takes a long time? |
| [21:32:00] | diode: | the actual booting process |
| [21:32:00] | kormoc: | the bios? |
| [21:32:00] | kormoc: | the kernel? |
| [21:32:00] | diode: | when loading it stops on Nautilus |
| [21:33:00] | diode: | sorry, i didnt explain well.. |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | what is nautilus ? |
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| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | it's a gnome file manager |
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| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [21:33:00] | diode: | yes |
| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | why is it starting on boot? |
| [21:33:00] | diode: | when gnome is loading, the box comes up and stays on that for about 5 minutes |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't used either KDE or gnome personally in like 5 years |
| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | that's not boot |
| [21:34:00] | diode: | true, its when i login |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | that's a 'Why is gnome slow to start' |
| [21:34:00] | diode: | ok, lets start it over, hah, why is gnome slow to start and pausing while laoding Nautilus (ubuntu machine) |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | I use xfce4 myself, so I can't really help with that |
| [21:36:00] | juski: | I hate the way gnome has that bloody session manager |
| [21:37:00] | xpis: | Is anyone using a kernel supported (non-lirc) remote? (recognized as a keyboard device) |
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| [21:38:00] | epictetus: | Heya. I am using nvidia tv-out with Twinview and am just wondering what the best resolution for my second monitor (just a regular tv, takes svidia input) is. right now i have it set to horizsync 30–50, vertrefresh 60, 640x480 |
| [21:39:00] | epictetus: | But it doesn't look so hot at that res |
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| [21:45:00] | unkle: | hello, im trying to configure a remote frontend. It connects to the backends database as it should but when i try to open a recording the frontend point to it self. ie: File not found: myth://localhost:6543/1001_123456789.... I changed the master-backend ip inside mythtv-setup to the IP of the backend (which must be why my DB-connection works) but still it thinks it should be reading the files locally. What am i doing wrong ? |
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| [21:47:00] | ** thechris hates nfs ** | |
| [21:49:00] | xpis: | Then use samba. |
| [21:49:00] | thma: | anybody know where i can get libstdc++.so.6 in an rpm |
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| [21:49:00] | unkle: | xpis > okay, but it just seems a bit weird to me... |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | thma: from your distributor |
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| [21:50:00] | thma: | that doesnt help much |
| [21:51:00] | unkle: | during startup of the frontend it complaints about not being able to connect to the socket (connection refused) this confuses me because it as mentioned before gets linked to the database succesfully. |
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| [21:51:00] | laga: | 'libstdc++' sounds mission-critical to me..you probably shouldn't mess around with stuff like this from other distros |
| [21:52:00] | thma: | i need it for mythtv-setup that is the only thing i am not finding |
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| [21:55:00] | defII: | What tuner type is used for the US? |
| [21:55:00] | defII: | With ivtv |
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| [21:57:00] | thechris: | ntse |
| [21:58:00] | thechris: | anyone here know how to get shfs working? |
| [21:58:00] | thechris: | since nfs and samba have failed me |
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| [21:58:00] | Kelerion: | unkle: it's probably complaining about the lirc socket |
| [21:59:00] | ** Kelerion gets back to watching TV ** | |
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| [22:00:00] | unkle: | Kelerion > i dont think so. It says "mythtv: could not connect to socket" |
| [22:00:00] | Kelerion: | ok – but when you find out I'm right don't say "why didn't I listen to him?" |
| [22:00:00] | ** Kelerion disappears ** | |
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| [22:05:00] | unkle: | Kelerion > hehe okay fair enough ;) |
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| [22:10:00] | defII: | Any idea what this is about: (ivtv1 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x40046403!) |
| [22:10:00] | unkle: | Kelerion > you were right :D ...but unfortunately it doesnt explain why the box is trying to read the files from "localhost" instead of my backends IP... I changed the name of the database in mysql.txt to my backend ip, still no dice :-/ |
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| [22:14:00] | spiderworm: | anyone know if there's a way to adjust the audio playback ? it's not quite synced right with the video? |
| [22:17:00] | dasOp: | unkle: frontend reads ip/port settings for the backend from the db... |
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| [22:17:00] | unkle: | dasOp, oh, i did not realise that. Where will i look for this on the backend ? (just in the general settings?) |
| [22:18:00] | dasOp: | yeah |
| [22:18:00] | dasOp: | set it to the actual ip of the backend, not 'localhost' |
| [22:18:00] | unkle: | dasOp, ok, i really thought that i fixed this long ago... ive had a frontend running previously with no trouble... but ill double-check it now |
| [22:19:00] | dasOp: | but as kelerion said, it might just be lirc :P |
| [22:19:00] | dasOp: | mythfrontend has lirc linked into it usually |
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| [22:21:00] | unkle: | dasOp > thanks a million for the tip ! (it was set to localhost on the backend, ive fixed it now). The issue with no socket-connection is lirc-specific as Kelerion said... but i guess it has nothing to do with my url's being wrong |
| [22:21:00] | juski: | unkle: it'll actually tell you just above the line where you see the error ;) |
| [22:21:00] | juski: | something like |
| [22:21:00] | juski: | lirc not working |
| [22:21:00] | juski: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [22:21:00] | juski: | (see above error) |
| [22:22:00] | unkle: | juski > yes i saw it now... embarassing ! |
| [22:22:00] | defII: | everything was working and then.... no tv... |
| [22:22:00] | unkle: | dasOp > ill see if i can get the frontend working now... its just puzzling to me that the name of the database on the backend was changed to "localhost" ...its a couple of weeks since i set it to the IP ....must be the office-pixies... |
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| [22:26:00] | unkle: | dasOp > weird... the URL still says "myth://localhost:6543//1....." |
| [22:26:00] | unkle: | dasOp, maybe i need to reboot the backend (?) |
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| [22:28:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Is there a limit to the number of tuners one can have in a single backend other than the physical limitations? |
| [22:28:00] | juski: | nope |
| [22:29:00] | Bob-Laptop: | sweet, I just picked up a pvr-500 and want to add another later |
| [22:29:00] | juski: | well I think the database probably has a limit of the field length for the tuner ID, but erm... |
| [22:29:00] | juski: | you'll run out of PCI slots _long_ before running out of field length ;) |
| [22:30:00] | Bob-Laptop: | juski, I would assume that 8 tuners on my network will not get to that limit |
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| [22:30:00] | juski: | no |
| [22:30:00] | juski: | don't think so anyway |
| [22:30:00] | juski: | erm.. I saw a webpage the other week where some guy has 3 backends stuffed with cards.. or was it four? |
| [22:31:00] | Bob-Laptop: | juski, just tring to do some more research here so I have my "ducks" in a row |
| [22:31:00] | juski: | there's no limit in real terms.. you'd have to have a _lot_ of tuners to max out mythtv |
| [22:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | the db limit us 999999999 |
| [22:32:00] | juski: | hehehehehehehehehehe |
| [22:32:00] | Bob-Laptop: | I never did get my bttv card working in the same backend with my ivtv cards, did not try very hard either |
| [22:32:00] | juski: | how many can MCE have? three?! |
| [22:33:00] | Bob-Laptop: | heh |
| [22:33:00] | juski: | had 2 soundcards in a windows system a while ago... it was so unpredictable when it booted up – sometimes they'd be swapped over... hate to have that happen with tuners |
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| [22:34:00] | Varanger: | hello |
| [22:34:00] | Varanger: | I am about to buy a TV tuner for MythTV |
| [22:35:00] | Varanger: | I want a Happage one |
| [22:35:00] | Varanger: | Hauppage |
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| [22:35:00] | Varanger: | It will be th 150 one |
| [22:35:00] | juski: | good choice |
| [22:35:00] | Varanger: | However, there are 3 of them... |
| [22:35:00] | Varanger: | 1042, 1045 and 1062 |
| [22:35:00] | juski: | if you need a remote control, don't buy the OEM MCE version |
| [22:36:00] | Varanger: | there are 2 with remote controls |
| [22:36:00] | Varanger: | the 1062 and 1045 |
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| [22:37:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Varanger, I use the 1045s |
| [22:37:00] | ** juski has no idea what model number his 150 is, but it's definitely the one that came without a remote ** | |
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| [22:39:00] | Varanger: | two more questions... |
| [22:39:00] | Bob-Laptop: | all four frontends have 1045s here, the masterbackend has a 1045 and a pvr-500 1081, adding another 1081 this week |
| [22:40:00] | Bob-Laptop: | next stop... more disk |
| [22:40:00] | Bob-Laptop: | LOL |
| [22:40:00] | juski: | if they've got tuners they ain't just frontends |
| [22:40:00] | Bob-Laptop: | juski, yeah combo boxes |
| [22:40:00] | Varanger: | First, I'll use the same machine as mythbackend and frontend |
| [22:41:00] | Varanger: | eventually, I'll want to build a masterbackend and connect it to my TV |
| [22:42:00] | Varanger: | What are the minimun specs I should think of... |
| [22:42:00] | Varanger: | It will serve two frontends... both laptops |
| [22:43:00] | juski: | 256MB RAM, > 1.5Ghz CPU, nvidia graphics card, 160GB HDD, DVD-ROM drive, 100Mb network |
| [22:43:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Varanger, remember for live TV you need one turner for each frontend in use |
| [22:44:00] | Bob-Laptop: | tuner |
| [22:44:00] | juski: | you need one tuner for each frontend that needs to be able to watch live tv simultaneously |
| [22:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bob-Laptop: Only if you plan to run livetv on all of the frontends at one time |
| [22:44:00] | juski: | and you need one tuner per simultaneous recording you want to make |
| [22:45:00] | Bob-Laptop: | GreyFoxx, yes I guess that is what I ment to say |
| [22:45:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | and with the upcoming 0.19, only if you want to watch different channels in LiveTV at the same time. :) |
| [22:45:00] | Varanger: | nvidia graphics... I have and old Geforce3 with Tv-out... I can use it to connect MythTV to my TV ??? |
| [22:45:00] | xpis: | Is there a way to map keyboard behavior for myth? I'm trying to set up a remote control without lirc – as the device won't work properly with lirc. |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Nice work on the NetworkControl interface |
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| [22:45:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Captain_Murdoch, that will rock |
| [22:46:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Varanger, "should" be able to yes |
| [22:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: thanks. wanted to get it in before 0.19 and it's been in my tree for a while. I think they've worked the bugs out of it. |
| [22:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been messing with it all afternoon |
| [22:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | only "problem" I've found was just the lack of volume controls. And it wont accept F# keys as is heh |
| [22:48:00] | Varanger: | I'll place the order for pvr-150 tonight |
| [22:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I want to make a "--remotecmd" option to mythfrontend that will send a command to the running frontend. |
| [22:48:00] | Varanger: | It should arrive in two weeks... |
| [22:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [22:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I haven't put in the whole key list yet. I looked at the mythwifi plugin and might steal the key list from that. |
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| [22:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool :) |
| [22:48:00] | Varanger: | How about network connections... |
| [22:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | This will make setting up a touch screen interface fairly simple |
| [22:49:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Varanger, where are you located? |
| [22:49:00] | Varanger: | Peru |
| [22:49:00] | Varanger: | South America |
| [22:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | heck it could be webbased heh |
| [22:49:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Varanger, NTSC or PAL there? |
| [22:49:00] | Varanger: | NTSC |
| [22:49:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Varanger, cool |
| [22:49:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Varanger, just wanted to make sure I did not give you NTSC part numbers if you needed PAL |
| [22:50:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I'd also like to make it be able to take commands like "http://frontend-ip:port/jump/livetv". that would make web-based control a piece of cake. :) |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: heh |
| [22:51:00] | Varanger: | I'd like to connect the backend to the fronted wirelessly |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I started goofing around with a php->NetworkControl interface |
| [22:51:00] | Varanger: | I've got a Linksys Wireless-G router... and an internal 802.11g in my HP laptop |
| [22:51:00] | Varanger: | Will it be enough ?? |
| [22:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: cool |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | touchscreen interface *drool* |
| [22:53:00] | MrProper_: | Varanger, what kind of stream are you doing? analogue, dvb? |
| [22:54:00] | Varanger: | just analogue mpeg-2 stream |
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| [22:57:00] | axios: | Hello |
| [22:57:00] | dasOp: | I'm using the default settings for analogue rtjpg capture and it works fine on my powerbook frontend |
| [22:57:00] | dasOp: | (using 11g) |
| [22:57:00] | axios: | Does anybody know how good mythtv is with a Hauppauge pvr-500 |
| [22:57:00] | axios: | ? |
| [22:57:00] | dasOp: | Cant speak for the hauppauges |
| [22:58:00] | dasOp: | axios: people seem happy with it |
| [22:58:00] | dasOp: | from what I know, alot of people use the pvr-500 with mythtv |
| [22:58:00] | axios: | dasOp: yeah, thats what I heard |
| [22:58:00] | axios: | Im trying to find out what card gives me the best value |
| [22:59:00] | axios: | Ok, sounds nice |
| [22:59:00] | dasOp: | I didnt really invest cash in my myth box so I just took a saa7134-based card I had |
| [22:59:00] | dasOp: | well if you need 2 tuners, that'd be it |
| [22:59:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, I just picked up my first 500 yesterday, just setting it up now |
| [22:59:00] | axios: | Bob-Laptop: hows it working out? |
| [22:59:00] | dasOp: | if you only need one tuner, the 150 would give you more value, naturally |
| [22:59:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, just setting it up now |
| [22:59:00] | axios: | yeah, but the picture on picture is a nice feature |
| [22:59:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, as in right now, have not booted the box yet |
| [22:59:00] | axios: | ok |
| [22:59:00] | Bob-Laptop: | LOL |
| [23:00:00] | axios: | hehe |
| [23:00:00] | ** Varanger can't wait to see his pvr-150 arrive ** | |
| [23:00:00] | dasOp: | I dont use livetv right now |
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| [23:00:00] | dasOp: | except for once in a while with the powerbook |
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| [23:00:00] | ** dasOp no tv in the bedroom ** | |
| [23:00:00] | Varanger: | what is livetv ? |
| [23:00:00] | axios: | is the 150/500 better or worse than the 250, 350 ones? |
| [23:00:00] | dasOp: | watching live tv |
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| [23:01:00] | dasOp: | 350 has a hardware decoder in addition to 150 |
| [23:01:00] | dasOp: | is the 250 still around? |
| [23:01:00] | dasOp: | the 350 does not add anything to its ability to capture |
| [23:01:00] | axios: | I want to build a htpc, to capture and watch live tv on |
| [23:02:00] | dasOp: | and you want pip and the ability to watch livetv on it and record at the same time |
| [23:02:00] | dasOp: | well, guess your initial hunch was right then :) |
| [23:02:00] | axios: | dasOp: Sounds nice ;) |
| [23:03:00] | axios: | So the pvr-500 will be the best one for me? |
| [23:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't understand the appeal of pip |
| [23:03:00] | dasOp: | me neither |
| [23:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | but then, the longer you use something like myth the less you ever watch livetv making pip something you never use |
| [23:03:00] | axios: | ok |
| [23:04:00] | dasOp: | I dont have my dvb-c chans in myth so I watch alot of live tv as well :) |
| [23:04:00] | dasOp: | cant afford card/ci/cam just yet |
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| [23:04:00] | juski: | two frontends running on the same machine into different video outputs, into one of those daft LCDs that have 2 layers... |
| [23:05:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, if you want a remote control the 150 makes a nice item provided you order the right part number |
| [23:05:00] | axios: | Im thinking about building a htpc with a turion processor, does anybody here have this setup? |
| [23:05:00] | axios: | Bob-Laptop: I have a remote control that I want to use |
| [23:05:00] | axios: | I just need some IR receiver |
| [23:05:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, IC |
| [23:05:00] | axios: | I have been looking a bit at lirc |
| [23:06:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, I put 150s in my combo frontends/slave backends just for the remote control |
| [23:07:00] | axios: | whats up with this frontend/slave thing |
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| [23:07:00] | axios: | do you have a file server and a box connected to the tv? |
| [23:07:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, frontends that have tuners can also be slave backends |
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| [23:08:00] | axios: | dont think i fully follow |
| [23:09:00] | axios: | i have to go do some homework, or else my study group is gonna kill me |
| [23:09:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, I have one master backend, it has three tuners right now, I have 4 frontends that also have tuners |
| [23:09:00] | axios: | I will be back later, with a lot more questions ;) |
| [23:09:00] | axios: | Bob-Laptop: whats the definition of a frontend, and a backend? |
| [23:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | the backend is the software that controls the tuners and recording. the frontend is the gui interface+playback |
| [23:10:00] | Bob-Laptop: | axios, frontend is where you watch from, backend has a tuner so you can record or use to view livetv |
| [23:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | the frontend and backend are 2 different bits of software and can all be run on the same box, or multiple |
| [23:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can have 1 backend and multiple frontends, or any combo |
| [23:12:00] | alpha255: | axios, lirc works well |
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| [23:12:00] | alpha255: | pittsburgh!!! |
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| [23:12:00] | alpha255: | axios, i'm using a sempron 2800+ w/pvr 250 card ... works great |
| [23:13:00] | axios: | ok |
| [23:13:00] | alpha255: | axios, board and cpu cost me 60 on sale |
| [23:13:00] | alpha255: | local fry's |
| [23:13:00] | alpha255: | store |
| [23:13:00] | Varanger: | Bye... thanks anyone for the great help!! |
| [23:13:00] | axios: | im thinking about building a htpc with a turion mt, nforce 3 mobo, gefore 6200 and a large disc |
| [23:13:00] | alpha255: | axios, only thing i'd do different is get a supported gpu on the motherboard |
| [23:14:00] | alpha255: | w/tv and dvi out |
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| [23:14:00] | a1fa: | yo |
| [23:14:00] | axios: | a supported gpu? |
| [23:14:00] | a1fa: | the new svn version wont compile for me |
| [23:14:00] | alpha255: | axios, what motherboard |
| [23:14:00] | axios: | build in? |
| [23:14:00] | a1fa: | (the previous version did) |
| [23:14:00] | axios: | Im not quite sure yet |
| [23:14:00] | a1fa: | same box, same svn tree w/ svn update |
| [23:14:00] | axios: | Ive been looking on a asus |
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| [23:14:00] | a1fa: | i am about to pastebin my configure output |
| [23:15:00] | axios: | I want dvi out |
| [23:15:00] | alpha255: | axios, like nvidia, sis or via |
| [23:15:00] | axios: | nvidia |
| [23:15:00] | a1fa: | axios: i am buying a tv with dvi-in |
| [23:15:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [23:15:00] | axios: | nice |
| [23:16:00] | a1fa: | At revision 8695. |
| [23:16:00] | axios: | Im thinking about getting rid of my crt tv |
| [23:16:00] | alpha255: | gota web page? |
| [23:16:00] | axios: | and buying a Sanyo Z3 Projector and getting some chaep 19" – 25" inch lcd |
| [23:16:00] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/38101 |
| [23:16:00] | axios: | and then connecting them both to the htpc |
| [23:17:00] | axios: | dvi for the projector and vga to the lcd |
| [23:17:00] | axios is now known as Axios | |
| [23:18:00] | Axios: | I think I'll have a htpc thats on 24/7 |
| [23:18:00] | Axios: | so it could do other jobs aswell |
| [23:18:00] | Axios: | its been nice talking to you all |
| [23:18:00] | bronco2: | heya |
| [23:18:00] | Axios: | but now I really need to get some homework done ;) |
| [23:18:00] | a1fa: | guys.. chekc out my config |
| [23:19:00] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/38101 |
| [23:19:00] | xpis: | Currently, I have a remote control that is generating "multimedia keyboard" keystrokes as the keycodes are hardcoded in the kernel drivers. Is there any way in myth to map these keys to their proper functions? |
| [23:20:00] | Axios: | hey |
| [23:20:00] | alpha255: | xpis, lirc.conf? maybe dunno |
| [23:20:00] | bronco2: | I am getting the error: ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw after updating to ivtv 0.4.2 |
| [23:20:00] | xpis: | The remote isn't compatable with lirc. |
| [23:20:00] | bronco2: | on fedora i386 |
| [23:20:00] | Axios: | do you guys use ir keyboards or something? |
| [23:20:00] | bronco2: | anyone have any hints? |
| [23:20:00] | alpha255: | irblaster |
| [23:20:00] | ** bronco2 couldn't find anything on gossamer or google ** | |
| [23:21:00] | Axios: | I want to use the remote, but I think it would be nice with a keyboard also |
| [23:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | xpis: Edit the kernel driver to use the keys you want ?:) |
| [23:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's what I do with mine :) |
| [23:21:00] | xpis: | GreyFoxx: I'd rather not have to patch the kernel with each release. |
| [23:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well if you are the type who doesn't usually compile your own kernel then it could be a pain, but if you already compile your own each time you update it then it's not much effort |
| [23:22:00] | xpis: | Although.. I compile the latest CVS v4l drivers separate from the main kernel, so I guess it wouldn't be that hard. |
| [23:22:00] | a1fa: | GreyFoxx: the newest svn version is not compiling |
| [23:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | xpis: I have acustomized ati_remote.c I use. I just copy it over after untaring the source and compile like normal |
| [23:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: Then fix it ? |
| [23:24:00] | bronco2: | Linux mythtv.workgroup 2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 #1 Fri Oct 21 03:46:55 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | GreyFoxx: i have yet to see what is the rerrp |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | rerror |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | grrr |
| [23:26:00] | bronco2: | a rpm -qa ivtv ivtv-kmdl-2.6.12–1.1381_FC3.i686 and ivtv.i386 |
| [23:26:00] | bronco2: | do both of those need to be .i386 or .i686? |
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| [23:28:00] | bronco2: | anyone? :-) |
| [23:28:00] | juski: | you know when you've set mythtv to start & finish recordings early, and there are adjacent shows you want to record from the same channel.. is there anything in svn to take this into account, or any plan to? |
| [23:28:00] | psofa: | i have a video video.avi and a thumbnail video.jpg in the thumbnails directory but mythvideo wont display the thumbnail |
| [23:28:00] | psofa: | any ideas? |
| [23:28:00] | alpha255: | psofa, haven't got that far myself |
| [23:29:00] | psofa: | lol |
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| [23:30:00] | juski: | psofa: I'm not sure but maybe mythvideo only shows thumbs for directories |
| [23:30:00] | psofa: | no it shows thumbs for videos too |
| [23:30:00] | psofa: | when i tried imdb |
| [23:30:00] | psofa: | it created some thumbs |
| [23:30:00] | psofa: | but they were not the same name as the video file |
| [23:31:00] | psofa: | they were a number |
| [23:31:00] | juski: | you can manually assign the 'cover' yourself though.. press 'i' in the video manager to assign it.. just put the thumb you want to use in the directory where the covers are stored |
| [23:31:00] | juski: | thinking more clearly now than earlier on ;) |
| [23:32:00] | juski: | I've got music videos with covers attached to them that way |
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| [23:32:00] | psofa: | thats impractical |
| [23:32:00] | psofa: | ive got many videos |
| [23:32:00] | psofa: | and many thumbs |
| [23:33:00] | juski: | sounds like you need a script to do it then |
| [23:33:00] | psofa: | oh noes |
| [23:33:00] | juski: | oh yes |
| [23:33:00] | psofa: | damn mysql |
| [23:33:00] | juski: | it's not that hard |
| [23:33:00] | bronco2: | anyone here using ivtv 0.4.2? |
| [23:33:00] | psofa: | its not that hard if you do it just once |
| [23:33:00] | psofa: | not every time you want to add a new video |
| [23:34:00] | juski: | what have you got so much of that IMDB doesn't list? |
| [23:34:00] | psofa: | pr0n |
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| [23:34:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [23:34:00] | juski: | heh |
| [23:34:00] | juski: | isn't there an IMDB for that? |
| [23:34:00] | psofa: | the titles are 3 lines long |
| [23:34:00] | psofa: | i dont think so |
| [23:34:00] | psofa: | :P |
| [23:34:00] | juski: | there's definitely a directory somewhere |
| [23:35:00] | juski: | not sure it does covers though |
| [23:35:00] | juski: | seriously.. selecting the graphics isn't that hard.. you get a nice scrolly list |
| [23:35:00] | psofa: | 500 pr0n files |
| [23:35:00] | psofa: | 500 thumbnaiils |
| [23:35:00] | juski: | script needed then |
| [23:35:00] | psofa: | i wont have a thumb after that |
| [23:35:00] | psofa: | :P |
| [23:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can link a coverfile directly to a video in teh database, or it will use a cover.jpg from the directory |
| [23:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | So either split them into 500 directories and name all the thumbnails cover.jpg |
| [23:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | or add them to the database |
| [23:36:00] | nasa: | Hi, question on remotes. I have an ati remote which is being seen and I can see output via irw. I have irxevent running, but Mythtv frontend doesn't seem to see it — what am I missing? |
| [23:36:00] | juski: | a lircrc file for mythtv, probably |
| [23:37:00] | psofa: | damn |
| [23:37:00] | psofa: | couldnt it be a filename.jpg |
| [23:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | sure, write the patch and I'll put it in |
| [23:38:00] | psofa: | but then ill have to update my svn to see it working |
| [23:38:00] | psofa: | :D |
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| [23:38:00] | juski: | take about an hour to make a PERL script to insert all the thumbs into the DB I reckon.. maybe 2 |
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| [23:39:00] | juski: | but if your filenames are like 3 lines long maybe it's not a good idea |
| [23:39:00] | psofa: | ye right |
| [23:39:00] | nasa: | juski: I have a file ~/.lircrc |
| [23:39:00] | psofa: | i dont know mysql nor perl |
| [23:39:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [23:39:00] | juski: | neither did I the other week |
| [23:39:00] | juski: | but I made a script to interrogate a cable box over http |
| [23:39:00] | juski: | then dump a list of channels and put them into the DB |
| [23:39:00] | juski: | all from how-to guides on the net |
| [23:40:00] | juski: | you don't really want to add 500 videos yourself.. you'd get RSI or something, before you even watch anything :D |
| [23:41:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [23:41:00] | juski: | I'm going thru all my mp3s right now, re-tagging em |
| [23:41:00] | juski: | easily 15 thousand tracks to check |
| [23:43:00] | quacker: | Anybody get gatos (on original Radeon AIW) to work with the X.org implementation of X11-R.7.0.0 ??? |
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| [23:43:00] | quacker: | The gatos package is designed for XFree86 |
| [23:44:00] | nasa: | juski: does the lircrc file need to be under the .myth directory? |
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| [23:45:00] | alpha255: | what dvd player do most of you folks use? xine or mplayer? |
| [23:45:00] | alpha255: | or ? |
| [23:45:00] | psofa: | vlc |
| [23:45:00] | SqWaw: | anyone here w/ gentoo? |
| [23:45:00] | quacker: | xine-ui |
| [23:45:00] | alpha255: | psofa, ahhh.. just point the mythtv to use it in the config part then right? |
| [23:45:00] | alpha255: | vlc handle menus? |
| [23:46:00] | juski: | yep it does |
| [23:46:00] | psofa: | i think it does |
| [23:46:00] | psofa: | so it does |
| [23:46:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [23:46:00] | SqWaw: | juski: my mysql version are you using? do you know if myth supports > 4 ? |
| [23:46:00] | juski: | and nasa: yes the lircrc file needs to be in .mythtv |
| [23:46:00] | juski: | SqWaw: erm.. I last installed mysql like over a year ago |
| [23:47:00] | juski: | mythtv doesn't support mysql5, at least 0.18 doesn't |
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| [23:47:00] | psofa: | where are the thumbnail links stored in the db? |
| [23:47:00] | juski: | the SVN version does |
| [23:47:00] | juski: | psofa: the column name is coverfile IIRC |
| [23:48:00] | juski: | yep |
| [23:48:00] | juski: | the table is 'videometadata' and the column where cover filenames are kept is called 'coverfile' |
| [23:48:00] | SqWaw: | okay |
| [23:49:00] | SqWaw: | thank you |
| [23:49:00] | alpha255: | phpmyadmin is my friend |
| [23:49:00] | psofa: | juski, thanks |
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| [23:50:00] | a1fa: | wow |
| [23:50:00] | a1fa: | make just froze up while compiling |
| [23:50:00] | a1fa: | oh :P |
| [23:50:00] | a1fa: | its working |
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| [23:52:00] | nasa: | juski: ok, let me try that |
| [23:52:00] | juski: | nasa: btw the file is just called lircrc, not .lircrc in the .mythtv directory |
| [23:54:00] | nasa: | juski: thanks for the heads up |
| [23:55:00] | iggy: | I'm still trying to figure out what the 13 (yes 13) mythbackend threads all do |
| [23:56:00] | juski: | iggy: why? writing a plugin? |
| [23:56:00] | iggy: | nope, but 13x22M adds up |
| [23:57:00] | FunkyELF: | If I want more than one frontend to connect to a backend do they have to be running the same exact version? |
| [23:57:00] | juski: | yes |
| [23:58:00] | juski: | iggy... what do you mean? when you list the processes running there are 13 instances of mythbackend? |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | same protocol version at least |
| [23:58:00] | iggy: | juski: yes |
| [23:58:00] | juski: | same DB schema too |
| [23:58:00] | fir3_ (n=fabian@Mce1b.m.pppool.de) Quit ("Verlassend") | |
| [23:58:00] | juski: | iggy: that's quite some feat |
| [23:58:00] | iggy: | and each one takes up 22M of memory |
| [23:58:00] | juski: | serious breakage going on there I think |
| [23:59:00] | iggy: | it's always been that way |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | it's not 22m each, Each of those is a thread and you are seeing the total memory usage, not per thread |
| [23:59:00] | juski: | heh.. seems I have that many running too |
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