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Thursday, January 12th, 2006, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] Slurpee`: happen pvr-150
[00:00:00] Slurpee`: i havent really tried configuring it... but after spedning all this money on my mythtv, i just want it to work ;/
[00:02:00] kormoc: Slurpee`, it's actually really simple, what distro do you have?
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[00:06:00] wswanson: crapola
[00:06:00] Guyfromhe: crapola indeed
[00:07:00] wswanson: audio just quit working on my master backend with 3 PVR250s...
[00:07:00] Guyfromhe: thats quite a few pvr250's
[00:07:00] wswanson: if I cat /dev/video# > output.mpg there doesn't seem to be audio in the stream
[00:08:00] wswanson: anyone have any thoughts on that but crapola? after one reboot, I managed to get audio to work on 2 & 3, but not 1. and now again, not on any.
[00:08:00] Guyfromhe: wow that sucks
[00:08:00] Guyfromhe: reboot again
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[00:08:00] wswanson: i've now rebooted about 15 times. I've pulled the cards, resorted them and put them back in — same deal
[00:08:00] Slurpee`: kormoc, debian
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[00:09:00] kormoc: Slurpee`, can you just apt-get ivtv?
[00:09:00] Guyfromhe: wswanson: same card all the time?
[00:09:00] Guyfromhe: kormoc: he probably can
[00:09:00] wswanson: usually all 3, no sound
[00:09:00] wswanson: moved from ivtv 4 to 4.1... same crapola
[00:09:00] kormoc: Slurpee`, http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Debian
[00:10:00] Guyfromhe: wswanson: I only have a 350 and a 150 so i'm not too sure about the 250
[00:10:00] kormoc: Slurpee`, there's a walk though howto to get the card working
[00:10:00] kormoc: Slurpee`, just make sure to use kernel version 2.6.14 or less and ivtv 0.4.0
[00:10:00] wswanson: actually, I had the same problem with the 150. I had 2 250s and 1 150. i moved the 150 to another slave and took its 250 and moved it so all 250's in same master backend
[00:11:00] wswanson: this seems to be an ivtv problem .... or a hauppuage general problem.... but having trouble finding similar problem
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[00:12:00] Guyfromhe: wswanson: I had no sound on my 150 on the first boot
[00:12:00] Guyfromhe: but then I rebooted and it was working fine
[00:12:00] Guyfromhe: I think I installed some other driver
[00:12:00] wswanson: my 250s worked great. I introduced the 150 and after 24 hours, all 3 had no sound
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[00:14:00] Guyfromhe: i did this in fedora before I rebooted "yum install ivtv-firmware-audio" cause some guys howto said to do that if you have a 159
[00:14:00] Guyfromhe: 150, and it worked after the rebooted
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[00:15:00] Guyfromhe: I dunno if it was the driver or the reboot or what
[00:15:00] Guyfromhe: but it was magic
[00:15:00] Kabutor: definitively was magic :D
[00:15:00] Guyfromhe: thats what I was thinking
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[00:16:00] wswanson: ivtv driver or firmware?
[00:16:00] Guyfromhe: did you try removing the 150?
[00:16:00] Guyfromhe: i dunno what that package contained
[00:17:00] Guyfromhe: I was kinda blindly following this howto
[00:17:00] wswanson: yes, it is out now, only 250s installed now --- and an air2pc hd5000 with working sound
[00:17:00] Guyfromhe: do the 250s work fine?
[00:17:00] wswanson: no
[00:17:00] wswanson: now no cards have sound
[00:17:00] Guyfromhe: that sucks
[00:17:00] wswanson: totally
[00:17:00] wswanson: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Debian
[00:18:00] wswanson: oops, wrong paste
[00:18:00] wswanson: 2006-01–11 17:17:23.905 AFD: Audio Track #1 is A/V stream #1 and has 2 channels in the Unknown language(0).
[00:18:00] wswanson: 2006-01–11 17:17:23.905 AFD: Selected track 1: Unknown MP2 2ch (A/V Stream #1)
[00:18:00] wswanson: 2006-01–11 17:17:23.905 AFD: Initializing audio parms from audio track #1
[00:18:00] wswanson: 2006-01–11 17:17:23.905 AFD: Audio format changed
[00:18:00] wswanson: from id(NONE) -1Hz -1ch 0bps  ; id(NONE) -1Hz -1ch 0bps
[00:18:00] wswanson: to id( MP2) 48000Hz 2ch 16bps  ; id( MP2) 48000Hz 2ch 16bps
[00:18:00] wswanson: leads me to believe audio is there.....  :-/
[00:18:00] Guyfromhe: did you tyr playing it on another computer?
[00:18:00] wswanson: but even outside of myth with a pure pipe — no sound
[00:18:00] wswanson: yes
[00:18:00] wswanson: and sound works great with hd5000 on same backend
[00:19:00] wswanson: but obvious dvb not ivtv drivers
[00:19:00] Guyfromhe: thats very odd
[00:19:00] wswanson: this may help http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?topic=9008.0
[00:19:00] wswanson: we'll see
[00:20:00] Guyfromhe: could give it a shot
[00:20:00] Guyfromhe: i don't have an answer for ya though never seen that problem and I don't have those cards
[00:23:00] Slurpee`: i followed that ivtvdriver guide last nite and got a bunch of errors
[00:23:00] Guyfromhe: thats not good
[00:23:00] Guyfromhe: are you sure you followed it properly?
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[00:25:00] Slurpee`: yupppppppppppp
[00:25:00] Slurpee`: it went smoothly for awhile
[00:26:00] Slurpee`: cp -f /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12/Makefile \
[00:26:00] Slurpee`: /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/Makefile
[00:26:00] Slurpee`: till that command
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[00:26:00] Guyfromhe: then what happened?
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[00:28:00] Slurpee`: got errors from that
[00:28:00] Slurpee`: and i tried contiueing with the guide, but kept more and more errors
[00:28:00] Slurpee`: is that command supposed to be 2 seperate commands or what
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[00:29:00] Guyfromhe: no
[00:29:00] Guyfromhe: that should be all on one line
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[00:30:00] Slurpee`: yea i tried playing with the spacing on it too
[00:30:00] Guyfromhe: hm
[00:30:00] Guyfromhe: odd
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[00:31:00] sabin: i need help setting up ATI Radeon All In Wonder TV-Tuner
[00:31:00] sabin: running kernel 2.6.15, debian sid, Xorg 6.9
[00:31:00] sabin: i compiled the km module from the gatos project
[00:31:00] sabin: it loaded properly
[00:31:00] Kabutor: Slurpee`, what did you get if you type "uname -r"  ?
[00:32:00] sabin: xawtv complains i'm missing /dev/video0
[00:33:00] sabin: i'm currently running Xorg with the radeon driver it comes with, the v4l extension seems to load fine
[00:34:00] kormoc: sabin, the v4l extension isn't the only thing you need
[00:34:00] kormoc: sabin, you need the v4l kernel driver for your card as well
[00:34:00] sabin: well the kernel doesn't come with a radeon v4l driver AFAIK... which is why I went to the gatos project and tried the km module (unless I'm wrong about the point of that one)
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[00:35:00] Kabutor: after you modprobe km module (wich looks like must be your video driver) check the logs to see any errors
[00:35:00] Kabutor: or try creating the video0 manually.. Ive no idea how to do it.. never did
[00:35:00] sabin: Kmultimedia API module version alpha-6.0 loaded
[00:35:00] sabin: Kmultimedia module version alpha-6.0 loaded
[00:36:00] sabin: that's all i get after loading the module
[00:36:00] kormoc: sabin, do you even know if your ati card is supported for tv in?
[00:36:00] sabin: not very sure, this is why i'm looking for help, i read docs from ATI I read docs from Xorg.... nothing's clear enough on that
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[00:36:00] GreyFoxx: '[
[00:36:00] GreyFoxx: '=\=
[00:37:00] sabin: ATI says All-In-Wonder functionality is provided only by open source drivers @ gatos.sf.net
[00:37:00] kormoc: sabin, given you are using the gatos driver, why not look at their site?
[00:37:00] sabin: i've looked at that but most things are included in the kernel and Xorg by now... from what I saw there the km thing is what i was missing... I may be wrong
[00:38:00] kormoc: odd
[00:38:00] sabin: is there anyone here that has an all-in-wonder working? maybe someone can tell me what i'm missing
[00:38:00] Kabutor: sabin, glxinfo |grep direct
[00:38:00] sabin: that's false
[00:39:00] kormoc: Most people avoid ati
[00:39:00] sabin: they say 3d is unsupported with the open source driver
[00:39:00] Kabutor: Not with the 6.9 afaik..
[00:39:00] kormoc: Kabutor, would always be false, as yeah, open source driver == no hardware accell
[00:39:00] Kabutor: maybe Im worng
[00:39:00] sabin: yeah i didn't know about that in time... i've been learning all about it since i bought this card
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[00:39:00] sabin: problems on top of problems
[00:39:00] kormoc: Kabutor, with a AiW? likely a mach64? very doubtful
[00:40:00] Kabutor: as I said maybe Im wrong.. sabin have you tried with cvs driver radeon of dri soruceforge?
[00:40:00] kormoc: Kabutor, won't work with radeon
[00:40:00] wswanson: ugh, get this — so i rmmod ivtv, wipe my firmware, isntall new firmware, and now tuner 1 audio works, but 2/3 still dead.... hmmm. not sure if that is even progress... hohum
[00:40:00] kormoc: Kabutor, it's not a radeon card
[00:40:00] cosmo_: are there any free windows x servers that will work with mythfrontend? Anyone do this before?
[00:41:00] wswanson: cosmo_, what do you mean? xfree86, xorg, ...
[00:41:00] kormoc: cosmo_, cygwin can help
[00:41:00] cosmo_: well, like cygwin, excursion...etc
[00:42:00] Kabutor: the how is called the driver ati.2 ?
[00:42:00] cosmo_: yeah, my university tells me its commercial, I guess its now?
[00:42:00] kormoc: Kabutor, cause it's not called radeon?
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[00:42:00] sabin: i'm afraid i have everything set up except udev doesn't create the video0 devices
[00:42:00] kormoc: Kabutor, http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php
[00:42:00] cosmo_: wow, looks like my university IT dept has no idea what theyre talking about, thanks for the tip kormoc
[00:42:00] Kabutor: well they said in the website that all the code goes into new xorg so I assume that all is called radeon, but I can be wrong
[00:43:00] kormoc: Kabutor, look at the list, the driver is in ()'s
[00:43:00] kormoc: Kabutor, at least, that's my understanding at least, I could be wrong
[00:44:00] Kabutor: I dont know with new Xorg..
[00:44:00] Kabutor: sabin, type modprobe -l |grep ati
[00:44:00] kormoc: sabin, you need the drm kernal module for the video carpture to work correctly
[00:45:00] sabin: i have the radeon drm module loaded
[00:46:00] Kabutor: Im waiting a bit to jump to new xorg and see If I can get my 9100 IGP working tvout + Direct rendering..
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[00:50:00] Kabutor: I think driver is called ati or ati.2 if sabin type -> $ modprobe -l |grep ati
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[00:50:00] sabin: it's not trust me, i loaded it myself a few days ago
[00:50:00] sabin: kerlnel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko
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[00:51:00] kormoc: sabin, that's the direct rendering manager driver, not the v4l driver
[00:52:00] sabin: there's no v4l ati driver in the kernel afaik, i checked the output of the command u gave me
[00:52:00] sabin: only ati thing there is /kernel/drivers/char/agp/ati-agp.ko
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[00:52:00] sabin: which is for the agp mobo chipset
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[00:53:00] kormoc: sabin, right, the ati.2 driver is for xorg
[00:54:00] kormoc: sabin, http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php
[00:54:00] sabin: yeah and that page says that that driver is now part of Xorg
[00:54:00] sabin: so i don't need to get it from gatos anymore
[00:54:00] kormoc: yeah...
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[00:58:00] sabin: kormoc, where's that folder with the xorg modules again?
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[00:59:00] kormoc: http://mabene.icomedias.com/gatos-stuff/
[01:00:00] kormoc: sabin, /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/
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[01:07:00] kslater: anyone using ubuntu with a via M9 or M10 k?
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[01:10:00] rep2: how do I find the frequency of my RF out from NTL set top box?
[01:10:00] rep2: or a transponder to allow mythtv to search for it
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[01:18:00] cosmo_: cygwin is AWESOME, I wish I knew about this years ago!
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[01:21:00] Guyfromhe: cosmo_: cygwin isn't that great
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[01:29:00] kslater: cygwin is awesome if you're stuck in Windows world all day..
[01:29:00] Beirdo: so is putty
[01:29:00] Beirdo: heh
[01:29:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, around?
[01:29:00] SqWaw: PuTTY pwns.
[01:30:00] kslater: putty is ok, but cygwin gives you what you'd normally have in an xterm when sitting at a linux box.
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[01:30:00] kslater: Beirdo: I'm surprised you'd be a fan of putty.
[01:30:00] Slurpee`: putty owns
[01:30:00] Krazylegz: Putty is much more lightweight than Cygwin.
[01:30:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: yup
[01:30:00] Beirdo: putty is the only thing that makes Windows usable
[01:30:00] SqWaw: think you can help me with those damn icons...
[01:31:00] ** Krazylegz hides, realizing he stated the obvious **
[01:31:00] SqWaw: mythfilldatabase shows 404 errors for the icons.
[01:31:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: I have no secret knowledge about it :)
[01:31:00] Beirdo: just ssh to the UNIX boxes
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[01:34:00] Guyfromhe: i'm a fan of putty
[01:34:00] Guyfromhe: are you just using cygwin to ssh into a box?
[01:35:00] Guyfromhe: cygwin is slow
[01:37:00] cosmo_: im using it to watch recordings on windows, or at least Im trying
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[01:37:00] GreyFoxx: I use vmware to do that :)
[01:37:00] cosmo_: Ive got it working in vlc over samba, I just hate having to kvm hop over to my winbox to skip commericials
[01:37:00] cosmo_: maybe I should look at vmware
[01:37:00] kslater: I use the complete env during work, bash shell etc. I have a windows box that I have to use at work. cygwin brings some sanity
[01:38:00] GreyFoxx: I never liked cygwin
[01:38:00] GreyFoxx: but if it does the job for ya, that's cool
[01:38:00] kslater: have any of you guys heard the javaposse podcast that discussed building and using a Mythbox?
[01:39:00] kslater: it's #23 should you be interested
[01:40:00] cosmo_: I take back what I say about cygwin being great, I cant even click on gaim without it crashing
[01:40:00] cosmo_: the things I'll do to keep a winbox for gaming........
[01:40:00] SqWaw: Can windows browse linux shares?
[01:41:00] cosmo_: you can setup a samba server on the linux box, but its a pain
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[01:41:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: Sure
[01:42:00] SqWaw: its a pain...?
[01:42:00] SqWaw: bleh.
[01:42:00] GreyFoxx: setting up basic file shares is simple
[01:42:00] GreyFoxx: it only really getscomplicated if you want seperate user permissions or to simulate a domain
[01:42:00] cosmo_: I think so, I had it all working right after 16 hours of cursing at it, and I come to it today without touching smb.conf and suddenly I have readonly on my write-enabled share, getting sick of fighting with it
[01:42:00] SqWaw: neither of which i'd do
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[01:48:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, or anyone: http://pastebin.com/501861
[01:49:00] GreyFoxx: mythfilldatabase it's escaping the & and the shell is interperating it
[01:49:00] SqWaw: http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_log . . . p;family.jpg exists though.
[01:49:00] GreyFoxx: it should be making it \&
[01:49:00] SqWaw: hmmm
[01:50:00] SqWaw: BUG!
[01:50:00] GreyFoxx: unforseen occurance :)
[01:50:00] SqWaw: im running svn....
[01:50:00] Beirdo: ummm
[01:50:00] Beirdo: an & should be escaped in a URL
[01:50:00] Beirdo: nice
[01:50:00] Beirdo: actually it should be a %26
[01:51:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: You should submit that to trac
[01:51:00] UncleBill: when I do cat /dev/video0, it cuts off after some random period, 3 minutes to 15 minutes. (same thing happens with mythtv). any ideas?
[01:51:00] d3ity: hey guys
[01:51:00] d3ity: looking to setup "clone" mode on my nvidia card
[01:51:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, I'd love to :) Only I'd horribly f*ck it up.
[01:51:00] d3ity: same display on both screens basically... I can't figure out how to do it in xorg.conf
[01:51:00] d3ity: can anyone help me out and suggest methods?
[01:51:00] stealth: Anyone know what chipset this board has perhaps, anyone ever buy one of these off ebay> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-4-Channel-CCTV-PCI-DV . . . cmdZViewItem
[01:52:00] d3ity: anyone?
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[01:52:00] adante: anybody on gentoo? from mailinglist talk i get the impression the mythtv-svn ebuilds are on bugs.gentoo.. but i can't find them
[01:53:00] kormoc: adante, don't use them
[01:53:00] d3ity: sorta in a hurry to get this working
[01:53:00] kormoc: adante, just unmask the .19.blah ones and use them
[01:54:00] kormoc: d3ity, just set twinview's type to clone
[01:54:00] UncleBill: truncated recordings. anyone? anyone?
[01:55:00] adante: kormoc: too late :)
[01:55:00] d3ity: kormoc, so would that be Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
[01:55:00] adante: but where do i find the mythtv related ebuilds on bugs.gentoo?
[01:56:00] kormoc: d3ity, yes, with a option "TwinView" before it, to enable twinview
[01:56:00] kormoc: adante, you don't
[01:56:00] kormoc: adante, cardoe is creating them and putting htem in the tree weekly or so
[01:56:00] kormoc: d3ity, http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ . . . endix-g.html shows all the different options
[01:56:00] Nichotin: adante: http://alfter.us/files/mythtv-svn-ebuilds.tar.bz2
[01:56:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, what component is mythfilldatabase?
[01:57:00] GreyFoxx: part of the mythtv tree
[01:57:00] kormoc: adante, keep in mind, if you use them, there may be issues. The ones cardoe rolls are the offical ones
[01:57:00] adante: Nichotin: thanks
[01:58:00] adante: kormoc: well, i get issues with the 'official' ones too, so figure it doesn't hurt
[01:58:00] kormoc: adante, such as?
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[01:58:00] adante: kormoc: seeking causes stutter for about 20–30s
[01:59:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, How's this: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1009
[01:59:00] kormoc: adante, with .19_pre8554
[01:59:00] kormoc: ?
[01:59:00] SqWaw: I'm sure I did something wrong... but, hey! I'm human L(
[01:59:00] adante: kormoc: yes
[01:59:00] SqWaw: :)*
[02:00:00] adante: kormoc: i've slowly climbed from .18.2 to .19_pre to -svn, heh
[02:01:00] GreyFoxx: That's good enough
[02:02:00] kormoc: adante, it did it in .18.2?
[02:02:00] adante: kormoc: yes :)
[02:02:00] kormoc: svn likely won't fix it then
[02:03:00] adante: oh and also i kept upgrading in the hopes mythfrontend would stop falling over
[02:03:00] kormoc: why's it falling over?
[02:03:00] kormoc: and have you reported these bugs?
[02:03:00] adante: good question – log with --verbose doesn't show anything and i'm not capable enough to run a trace
[02:03:00] adante: er -v all
[02:04:00] adante: it happens quite often when i'm watching tv/recordings it falls over when i resize the aspect ratio or seek – particularly with lower resolution transcodes
[02:05:00] adante: svn kind of helped in that i can no longer resize the aspect ratio :s
[02:06:00] adante: haven't reported as bugs, don't really know what to say without a trace
[02:06:00] kormoc: welp, I really doubt the svn ebuilds will help at all
[02:06:00] kormoc: I'll be back on later.
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[02:10:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: wanna try to get it to work ?
[02:10:00] GreyFoxx: I can tell you a one line code change that might fix it for you
[02:10:00] SqWaw: I tried...
[02:10:00] GreyFoxx: If it works I'll commit
[02:10:00] SqWaw: i got it to download the image
[02:10:00] SqWaw: it saved it wrong though
[02:10:00] GreyFoxx: Oh ?
[02:11:00] SqWaw: i changed the & in iconmap.xml to %26
[02:11:00] GreyFoxx: and how was it saved ?
[02:11:00] SqWaw: it downloaded the image with wget that way
[02:11:00] SqWaw: 21:09:50 (146.14 KB/s) – `/home/mythtv/.mythtv/channels/starz_kids&family.jpg' saved [17820/17820]
[02:11:00] SqWaw: Error retrieving icon from 'http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_log . . . 6family.jpg' to file '%2'
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[02:11:00] SqWaw: so basically what I did was half right...
[02:12:00] GreyFoxx: ok, delete what it grabbed
[02:12:00] GreyFoxx: and revert everything back to the way ti was
[02:12:00] `shr00m: guys... "watch videos" gives me no files found, even though i setup the path to all my .avi's ... how can i actually populate the gallery with my videos?
[02:12:00] SqWaw: roger.
[02:12:00] GreyFoxx: There is a 1 line code change that "should" fix it
[02:13:00] SqWaw: reverted.
[02:13:00] GreyFoxx: damn, hold on amoment, gotta put my little one to bed
[02:13:00] SqWaw: :)
[02:14:00] UncleBill: all recordings start recording fine, but are truncated after 3 to 15 minutes. I tried cat /dev/video0, and see the same behavior. I have ivtv 0.4.1–99 and pvr-250. anyone else seen this or have suggestions?
[02:15:00] GreyFoxx: ok, just gimme a sec to relook this over
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[02:16:00] SqWaw: i smell like B.O.
[02:16:00] SqWaw: but its really onions
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[02:16:00] SqWaw: all because of my damed Gourmet Foods class
[02:16:00] SqWaw: damned
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[02:18:00] `shr00m: anyone a bit experienced with MythVideo?
[02:18:00] SqWaw: I'm not at all
[02:18:00] SqWaw: but if its anything like mythmusic
[02:18:00] SqWaw: try pressing 'm' for a menu
[02:19:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: ok, in mythtv/programs/mythfilldatabase/filldata.cpp
[02:19:00] GreyFoxx: jump down to line 355
[02:19:00] GreyFoxx: It currently looks like "QFileInfo qfi(icon_url);"
[02:19:00] GreyFoxx: I want to add this on the next line "QUrl::encode(icon_url);"
[02:20:00] SqWaw: alright...
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[02:20:00] SqWaw: anything else on your mind?
[02:21:00] GreyFoxx: That's it
[02:21:00] GreyFoxx: cd just move to mythtv/programs/mythfilldatabase
[02:21:00] GreyFoxx: and run make install
[02:21:00] GreyFoxx: it should recompile and install the new version
[02:21:00] GreyFoxx: or I suppose just make and run your test from that same directory so that you don't overwrite anything :)
[02:22:00] SqWaw: not overwriting anything important imo
[02:22:00] SqWaw: it can be returned to normal with minimal effort
[02:22:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[02:22:00] SqWaw: okay here goes....
[02:23:00] SqWaw: Error retrieving icon from 'http%3A//tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/starz_kids/home/mythtv/.mytht v/channels/starz_kids%26family.jpg526family.jpg' to file '%2'
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[02:23:00] GreyFoxx: Where is the home/mythtv bit coming from ?
[02:24:00] SqWaw: thats the user mythtv's home dir
[02:24:00] GreyFoxx: yeah, but I'm wondering how the heck it's getting into the url
[02:25:00] SqWaw: good question
[02:25:00] SqWaw: UGH
[02:25:00] SqWaw: i broke the perl script somehow...
[02:25:00] GreyFoxx: easy enough to fix
[02:25:00] GreyFoxx: just delete it
[02:25:00] GreyFoxx: and run svn up
[02:25:00] GreyFoxx: it will restore a pristine version
[02:26:00] Anduin: GreyFoxx – filldata.cpp
[02:26:00] GreyFoxx: Anduin: I know where the code for it is, but that value is coming from the database, so I thyink he has somehow corrupted what was being sent into the db :)
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[02:28:00] SqWaw: My fault :)
[02:28:00] SqWaw: hmmm
[02:28:00] SqWaw: that change to filldata made the perl script not work
[02:28:00] GreyFoxx: uhhh I think not
[02:29:00] SqWaw: i restored it and did make make install and it worked this time
[02:29:00] SqWaw: Can't locate object method "status_line" via package "WWW::Mechanize" at /usr/bin/tv_grab_na_icons line 266, <STDIN> line 1.
[02:29:00] SqWaw: Can't locate object method "status_line" via package "WWW::Mechanize" at /usr/bin/tv_grab_na_icons line 266, <STDIN> line 2.
[02:29:00] SqWaw: dunno, it works now
[02:30:00] GreyFoxx: Did it succeed in grabbing the file ?
[02:30:00] SqWaw: negative
[02:31:00] SqWaw: i was just trying to regenerate iconmap.xml
[02:31:00] SqWaw: im putting QUrl::encode(icon_url); back in
[02:31:00] SqWaw: unless you dont want me to
[02:31:00] GreyFoxx: You want it there
[02:32:00] SqWaw: k
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[02:32:00] SqWaw: restored
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[02:35:00] adante: what does arbitrary seek do?
[02:35:00] Beirdo: seeks arbitrarily?
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[02:36:00] adante: hmm who would have thought
[02:36:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: How are things now ?
[02:36:00] SqWaw: still broke :)
[02:36:00] adante: how do i use it? tried arrow keys, putting in numbers.. no luck
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[02:36:00] GreyFoxx: So, you've restored the perl script, regenerated and reimported iconmap ?
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[02:36:00] d3ity_: hey all, just got mythtv working finally
[02:36:00] d3ity_: got a question though
[02:36:00] d3ity_: looking to improve the video quality a bit
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[02:37:00] d3ity: its sorta snowy and grainy
[02:38:00] d3ity: i changed the default resolution, and still no help... perhaps there might be a list of ways to improve video quality somewhere online?
[02:38:00] Kelerion: d3ity: whats your setup?
[02:38:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, yep
[02:39:00] GreyFoxx: and what do you get when you run it? Not the same error I assume ?
[02:40:00] Beirdo: this SUCKS
[02:40:00] Beirdo: this Soundstage is glitchy
[02:40:00] Beirdo: Chris Isaak
[02:40:00] Beirdo: sigh
[02:41:00] SqWaw: Erm actually yes
[02:41:00] SqWaw: Error retrieving icon from 'http%3A//tvlistings2.zap2it.com/tms_network_logos/starz_kids/home/mythtv/.mytht v/channels/starz_kids&family.jpg6family.jpg' to file '%2'
[02:41:00] d3ity: Kelerion, athlon xp 3000+, Nvidia fx5200, hauppage PVR-150
[02:41:00] d3ity: 512 mb of ram
[02:42:00] d3ity: the video quality is kinda crappy, substantially worse than just plugging the cable into the TV directly
[02:42:00] d3ity: its not choppy persay, but it seems like its got a little noise in it... sorta grainy
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[02:43:00] GreyFoxx: SqWaw: revert it to normal for now, later I'll fake some icons in my setup and try it myself
[02:43:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, im off to shower, you'll be here in ~20?
[02:44:00] SqWaw: oh okay
[02:44:00] GreyFoxx: I'll be watching Lost for the next while :)
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[02:46:00] SqWaw: okay
[02:47:00] d3ity: so basically i'd just like to poke this a bit and tweak it to clean up the picture
[02:47:00] SqWaw: okay :)
[02:48:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, after doing svn up, should i make clean before make?
[02:48:00] d3ity: I've been looking at these filters in the howto
[02:48:00] d3ity: not quite sure what would be most effective for my situation, or how to apply them
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[02:48:00] adante: `is there a way to apply picture adjustments (colour/hue) to recordings?
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[03:08:00] Sunbug: Hello! Found patrs of an irclog from this channel on the web, someone complained abaout the ivtvclt command did'nt work anymore after upgrading to 0.4.x release of the ivtvdriver. ANyone found a souloutin for this? :P
[03:12:00] Anduin: Sunbug – URL? (it works, at lest the parts I use)
[03:14:00] Sunbug: Anduin: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-10-09  ;:)
[03:17:00] Anduin: Sunbug – that -a nolonger works seems clearly wrong
[03:18:00] Anduin: Sunbug – ivtvctl is maintained with the driver, and if you use the one that matches the driver should always work.
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[03:37:00] blayne: Anybody have mythtv successfully changing the channel on a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2200 digital cable box?
[03:40:00] EnterUserName: hey all
[03:40:00] EnterUserName: how do you find out what irq is on what
[03:41:00] adante: when i change channels the osd initially comes up with a signal/snr information.. is there any way i can get that back?
[03:43:00] blayne: Checking on the command to see IRQ's. Just used one recently and can't remember it.
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[03:46:00] Anduin: cat /proc/interrupts
[03:49:00] EnterUserName: hia ll
[03:49:00] EnterUserName: what would cause these type of errors
[03:49:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdbf230]ac-tex damaged at 10 24
[03:49:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdbf230]end mismatch left=261
[03:49:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdbf230]ac-tex damaged at 28 5
[03:50:00] EnterUserName: any ideas?
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[03:51:00] EnterUserName: because of that
[03:51:00] EnterUserName: my ffmpeg doesnt work
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[03:52:00] EnterUserName: hi all
[03:52:00] EnterUserName: hi gaasfat
[03:53:00] EnterUserName: mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdbf230]end mismatch left=169
[03:53:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdbf230]00 motion_type at 20 29
[03:53:00] dopester: man what is the timeout for atsc ota scans now...
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[04:03:00] EricL: When I run mythtv, I can get it to play about 4 frames and then it freezes. And when I start mythbackend, it still says: "Could not find input: Television on card when setting channel 3" (and still plays then freezes).
[04:04:00] EricL: Can anyone help me out? I googled and came up with nothing.
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[04:20:00] ** xris kicks the electric company.. the ONE SINGLE LAST Good Eats episode I was missing was on today... and there was a blackout! **
[04:21:00] Beirdo: fuckers
[04:22:00] Beirdo: is it on again?
[04:22:00] xris: no
[04:22:00] Beirdo: gack
[04:22:00] xris: maybe in a few more months
[04:22:00] xris: not that I really care.. squid episode.. but it was the last one
[04:23:00] Beirdo: that's an old one, I think
[04:23:00] Beirdo: I think I had that from pre-myth days
[04:23:00] xris: yeah
[04:23:00] xris: 5th season
[04:24:00] xris: vanilla is on tonight (new)
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[04:24:00] xris: which thankfully they do rebroadcast
[04:25:00] dopester: man
[04:25:00] dopester: how ya doin guys?
[04:25:00] xris: heya
[04:25:00] xris: not bad
[04:25:00] xris: just being pissed at the power company
[04:26:00] xris: and upset at miscommunication with my wife. we each thought the other had fixed the mythbox so it would record scrubs instead of supernatural... but neither had.
[04:26:00] dopester: hehe
[04:26:00] dopester: what a travesty
[04:26:00] dopester: :)
[04:26:00] dopester: im just tryin to mess with myth again after months of not using it
[04:26:00] xris: it'll rerun
[04:26:00] xris: heh
[04:26:00] dopester: seems dtk has improved the ota scan
[04:26:00] dopester: been going for like 30 minutes now
[04:27:00] dopester: its like the timeout for each channel is 5 minutes
[04:27:00] xris: ouch
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[04:43:00] darkdrgn: hey, does a MASTER BACKEND really need a capture card?
[04:46:00] darkdrgn: and waht do i select if i want a channel-less input?
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[04:57:00] xris: Darkdon't think so
[04:57:00] xris: darkdrgn: ^^^
[04:58:00] xris: darkdrgn: for recording or viewing? for recording, I think you need to use a manual schedule.. for viewing/configuring, you should be able to just make myth aware of the input and it'll work.
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[04:59:00] darkdrgn: xris: for example. i have a tv tuner. but i want the tuner to also use the s-video wich is the satalite
[04:59:00] darkdrgn: but at the moment i have no way to change channels on the sat..so i want to only use it as a view only
[04:59:00] xris: just add it as an input in mythtv-setup
[04:59:00] xris: then the C key will switch between inputs on a card
[05:00:00] darkdrgn: ok i hope
[05:00:00] darkdrgn: does the MASTER BACKEN need a tuner
[05:00:00] darkdrgn: the docs say it does but has that changed?
[05:00:00] Beirdo: NO
[05:00:00] Beirdo: didn't xris just say that?
[05:00:00] darkdrgn: Beirdo: just VERIFYING cuase the docs says it does
[05:01:00] ** xris goes to make some dessert **
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[05:02:00] EricL: If I only have one card (a PVR-250) can I watch something on one channel and record something else on another channel?
[05:02:00] topping: no
[05:03:00] darkdrgn: EricL : nop
[05:03:00] EricL: Alright, thanks.
[05:03:00] darkdrgn: EricL: its like a radio
[05:03:00] topping: you need one tuner per recording, plus one to watch
[05:03:00] darkdrgn: EricL: if you have one radeio.. can you listen to 2 stations?
[05:03:00] EricL: I have another old card somewhere, I am going to try and hunt that down and get it to work so I can do both.
[05:03:00] EricL: Is it complicated?
[05:03:00] darkdrgn: EricL: depends
[05:04:00] darkdrgn: EricL: but old cards are usualy FRAME GRABBERS and eat up tons of cpu!
[05:04:00] darkdrgn: EricL: : i got one im using as backup :)
[05:04:00] EricL: Its a dedicated machine that I am using only for MythTV and its a p4 2.4 Xeon w/ HT
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: 1.6 ghz
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: at 320x320 uses 50% cpu :-P
[05:05:00] EricL: The old card or both?
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: + whatver to display.........
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: old card
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: new card (PVR 150) uses only 2 at most 5%
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: usualy more liek 2 or 3
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: at 729x480
[05:05:00] darkdrgn: 720
[05:06:00] EricL: Hmm...I don't even know how I am going to go about identifying what type of card the other one is. It says nothing on it.
[05:06:00] darkdrgn: figure out the chipset
[05:07:00] EricL: Oh well, not a big deal, I will look into it another time. I am just glad I finally got regular MythTV working with one card.
[05:07:00] darkdrgn: my tvwonder is a bt878
[05:08:00] EricL: I'll figure it out, I am just fried from working on MythTV with my PVR250 (those ivtv drivers are a PITA the first time around).
[05:09:00] EricL: Last quick question, do I have to keep the frontend and backend running if I am recording something?
[05:09:00] darkdrgn: n
[05:09:00] darkdrgn: just backend
[05:10:00] darkdrgn: frontend is only for viewing stuff
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[05:10:00] darkdrgn: EricL: as for the drivers.. they are ez\\
[05:10:00] darkdrgn: EricL: irblaster is more of a pita
[05:10:00] darkdrgn: EricL: thats cause it no supports my sat box :(
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[05:11:00] EricL: Yea, the only think I haven't tackled yet is how to get the remote that came with the card to work.
[05:11:00] darkdrgn: irblaster :)
[05:11:00] darkdrgn: gatta recompile yor ivtv drivers
[05:12:00] darkdrgn: http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/
[05:12:00] EricL: So it has nothing to do with lirc?
[05:12:00] darkdrgn: everyhting you need to getr the IR to work
[05:12:00] darkdrgn: sure it does
[05:12:00] darkdrgn: you need to path and recompile that too :)
[05:12:00] darkdrgn: you need to patch ivtv for the ir chip locking bug
[05:12:00] EricL: I am using Debian, so I apt-get install everything I can.
[05:13:00] darkdrgn: EricL: you NEED to compile ivtv and lirc cause they need to be patched to get the remote working
[05:13:00] EricL: I very well may go without the remote then.
[05:14:00] EricL: It took me 4 days to get MythTV to work, between ivtv, kernel issues, myth building issues. At the moment, I am not doing anything else but watching TV.
[05:14:00] darkdrgn: look at ht elink above
[05:14:00] darkdrgn: EricL: why didnt you aptget mythtv???
[05:14:00] Beirdo: w00t!
[05:15:00] Beirdo: under breezy, smartmontools will talk to my SATA drives!
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[05:15:00] darkdrgn: EricL: my next project is going to get diskless frontend to start up :)
[05:15:00] EricL: darkdrgn: Because it wasn't working.
[05:16:00] EricL: I would apt-get update and it would ignore that site.
[05:16:00] EricL: So I said screw it and built it myself.
[05:16:00] darkdrgn: EricL: so install mandriva :)
[05:16:00] EnterUserName: does anyone nkow if mpeg mismatch
[05:16:00] EnterUserName: ivtv problem or mythtv problem
[05:16:00] darkdrgn: EricL: took me 10 mins to get mythtv working.....'
[05:16:00] EricL: Nah, I am Debian fan.
[05:16:00] EricL: darkdrgn: I am just not that good then.
[05:16:00] darkdrgn: EricL: LOL im a mandrake fan
[05:16:00] darkdrgn: EricL: just because of urpmi :)
[05:17:00] darkdrgn: i like it so much better then apt-get
[05:17:00] darkdrgn: but thats cause im biast
[05:17:00] darkdrgn: :-P
[05:17:00] darkdrgn: and im really lazy
[05:17:00] darkdrgn: they do most of the work for you LOL
[05:17:00] EricL: This might be the first problem that apt-get has given me in 5 years.
[05:17:00] Beirdo: except their startup won't do it
[05:17:00] Beirdo: fug
[05:18:00] darkdrgn: EricL: well i dono. i triede fedora, hated it.. couldnt compile simple display drivers
[05:18:00] darkdrgn: EricL: as for debain.. i donno... id rather go ubuntu if im gonna have a debain based systme.
[05:18:00] darkdrgn: EricL: but debain IS a very nice distro
[05:19:00] darkdrgn: EricL: but when you start compiling stuff like MYTH TV your ASKING for trouble
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[05:19:00] darkdrgn: unless you knw what your doing..
[05:19:00] darkdrgn: anyway keep that lik i gate you handy
[05:19:00] darkdrgn: it has everying you need to get lircd working
[05:19:00] EricL: I have been using linux for years and I generally know what I am doing.
[05:19:00] darkdrgn: (took me 3 days to get it working.. only 1/2 to get ivtv workin)
[05:20:00] darkdrgn: EricL: thast what i say to... but im such a noob sometimes its NOT funny
[05:20:00] darkdrgn: my first dirso was SLACKWARe on likr 5 floppies :-P
[05:20:00] darkdrgn: aa those where the days
[05:20:00] EricL: I only started with ivtv today, so it wasn't that bad. I just mean 4 days from start to finish.
[05:20:00] EricL: My first distro was Slack 3.0
[05:20:00] darkdrgn: yeh something ike that
[05:20:00] darkdrgn: LOL
[05:21:00] darkdrgn: i still remember my first NAT router..
[05:21:00] darkdrgn: actuay it wa sa MASQ router out of a 486
[05:21:00] darkdrgn: and redhat 4 i thin it was.. maybe 5...
[05:21:00] darkdrgn: bloody dsl companies started usig pppoe
[05:21:00] EricL: I used redhat 4.2 when I tried redhat.
[05:21:00] EricL: Then I went to Debian.
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[05:22:00] darkdrgn: i fell in love with redhat..
[05:22:00] darkdrgn: then mandrake recompiled it with i586
[05:22:00] darkdrgn: but i really dislike red now...
[05:22:00] darkdrgn: mandrake it to bulky
[05:22:00] darkdrgn: if i want cfontrol over a dristo i use slackware :-P
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[05:24:00] EricL: Alright, I gotta get some sleep, I am exhausted. Thanks for the help.
[05:24:00] darkdrgn: nite
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[05:27:00] johnt: hi
[05:29:00] johnt: i've a cable box connected to mythtv via composite0 and everything is working except when i hit letter "R" to record, nothing happens
[05:29:00] johnt: pls help
[05:29:00] johnt: thanks
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[05:29:00] Beirdo: hey kormoc
[05:29:00] kormoc: hihi
[05:29:00] johnt: im able to record using winprv in windows
[05:29:00] kormoc: what's up Mr. Beirdo
[05:30:00] Beirdo: I just found out that smartd and sata will work together in breezy :)
[05:30:00] kormoc: Yeah?!
[05:30:00] Beirdo: yup :)
[05:30:00] Beirdo: smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda
[05:30:00] Beirdo: :)
[05:30:00] kormoc: booya!
[05:30:00] kormoc: I'll need to get that fired up on mine
[05:30:00] Beirdo: I guess they patched the libata or something
[05:30:00] Beirdo: I like
[05:31:00] Cardoe: what are we using smartd for?
[05:31:00] Beirdo: to graph the temperature of drives, etc
[05:32:00] Beirdo: I'm a cacti whore
[05:32:00] kormoc: Cardoe, drive health status
[05:32:00] johnt: pls help
[05:32:00] johnt: thanks
[05:32:00] Beirdo: and drive health status, yes
[05:32:00] kormoc: Cardoe, keep my data safe by having it auto shutdown when smart errors happen
[05:32:00] Cardoe: http://www.cacti.net/ ?
[05:32:00] Beirdo: yup
[05:33:00] kormoc: tho evendently I wasn't checking fast enough
[05:33:00] Cardoe: I hate when the TV channel broadcasts the commericals at like 90 times the volume...
[05:33:00] ** kormoc eyes his down server with a nasty glare **
[05:33:00] Cardoe: Watching Stigmata
[05:33:00] Cardoe: I dunno why
[05:33:00] Cardoe: it was on
[05:33:00] Cardoe: and the movie is really quiet
[05:33:00] kormoc: stigmata was a good movie
[05:33:00] Cardoe: was it?
[05:33:00] Cardoe: hrm
[05:33:00] kormoc: I think so
[05:33:00] Cardoe: So far it seems good
[05:33:00] Cardoe: I always though people said bad stuff about it.
[05:33:00] Beirdo: power on hours on this server's drive: 3544
[05:34:00] Beirdo: too bad this won't work under hoary
[05:34:00] Beirdo: my other sata box is running hoary with a custom-built kernel with vservers in it
[05:35:00] Cardoe: kormoc: sys-apps/smartmontools ?
[05:35:00] Beirdo: aye
[05:35:00] Cardoe: or..
[05:35:00] Cardoe: app-admin/ide-smart
[05:35:00] Beirdo: smartmontools is what I have under ubuntu
[05:35:00] Beirdo: your mileage may vary
[05:36:00] Cardoe: hrm so where does cacti get it's data from?
[05:36:00] kormoc: Cardoe, yeah, smartmontools
[05:36:00] Beirdo: mainly from snmp
[05:36:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdc0230]ac-tex damaged at 25 29
[05:36:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdc0230]00 motion_type at 8 29
[05:36:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdc0230]skipped MB in I frame at 11 6
[05:36:00] EnterUserName: [mpeg2video @ 0x2aaaabdc0230]ac-tex damaged at 18 25
[05:36:00] EnterUserName: are these errors from myth or ivtv?
[05:37:00] Beirdo: no
[05:37:00] Beirdo: heh
[05:37:00] Beirdo: well myth
[05:37:00] Cardoe: it's bad mpeg2
[05:37:00] johnt: when i do cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg, it records fine
[05:37:00] EnterUserName: yes but why
[05:37:00] Beirdo: but specifically from ffmpeg libraries
[05:37:00] Cardoe: johnt: ok.
[05:37:00] EnterUserName: But what should i do tof ix this issue
[05:37:00] EnterUserName: is it a bug in the program?
[05:37:00] EnterUserName: who would i report it to?
[05:37:00] Beirdo: it's not a bug
[05:37:00] EnterUserName: no?
[05:38:00] EnterUserName: THen why is it getting damaged?
[05:38:00] Beirdo: it's your ivtv card giving crap data, maybe overheating, maybe a bug in ivtv
[05:38:00] EnterUserName: oh
[05:38:00] EnterUserName: the thing is its still working
[05:38:00] ** EnterUserName sighs **
[05:38:00] Beirdo: either way, the card wrote a bad frame, but life goes on
[05:38:00] EnterUserName: yes but because of it ffmpeg won't convert the data
[05:38:00] EnterUserName: ;(
[05:39:00] xris: EnterUserName: thus, nuvexport
[05:39:00] xris: mythtranscode (called by nuvexport) is way more tolerant at decoding bad frames than anything else
[05:39:00] EnterUserName: oh ok
[05:41:00] johnt: if i'm connected via composite0 do i have to set the channel frequency table in mythtv-setup
[05:41:00] johnt: thanks
[05:41:00] xris: johnt: no channels on composite inputs
[05:41:00] johnt: i don't see an option for none
[05:42:00] johnt: thank xris
[05:42:00] kormoc: johnt, no, you just have to set the input type to composite.
[05:42:00] EnterUserName: great
[05:42:00] EnterUserName: nuvexports site is down
[05:42:00] EnterUserName: oh xris is nuvexport :p
[05:42:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: how'd you get those values out?
[05:42:00] Beirdo: hehe
[05:43:00] Beirdo: a custom script
[05:43:00] EnterUserName: its saying connection refused trying to connect xris?
[05:43:00] Beirdo: an snmp-pass script I wrote
[05:43:00] kormoc: xris, sadly, I could only salvage 8.795 gigs of data off of my dead 8.8 gig drive, but the missing 5 megs happened to contain a super block and is causing a lot of cleanup joy!
[05:43:00] xris: EnterUserName: oops. had a power outtage earlier today
[05:43:00] xris: ick
[05:44:00] xris: EnterUserName: should work now
[05:44:00] johnt: got it
[05:44:00] johnt: thank xris
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[05:45:00] xris: kormoc: so you missed my moaning.. blackout meant that I missed recording the last missing episode of good eats
[05:45:00] kormoc: xris, oh joy! today has just been a great day for computers!
[05:45:00] Cardoe: kormoc: ok so smart stuff installed..
[05:45:00] johnt: when i press letter "R" to record livetv, im getting the following error in mythfrontend: driver error was [2/1064]: qmysql3: unable to execute query databae erro was: you have an error in your sql syntax
[05:46:00] Cardoe: johnt: what version are you running?
[05:46:00] johnt: of mysql or mythtv
[05:46:00] kormoc: Cardoe, smartd is the daemon that checks the status of the drives
[05:46:00] xris: johnt: sounds like a mysql incompatibility
[05:46:00] xris: but I know it works with 3
[05:46:00] EnterUserName: thanx xris
[05:46:00] Cardoe: johnt: both
[05:46:00] ** EnterUserName wonders if he has time to join the ivtv development thing. **
[05:47:00] kormoc: Cardoe, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/man/smartd.8.html
[05:47:00] johnt: cardoe: mythtv .18.1–5
[05:47:00] johnt: 0.18.1–5
[05:47:00] kormoc: Cardoe, it logs to syslog, and then I had a script via sec.pl (Super awesome script) sudo shutdown if fatal smart errors started happening
[05:48:00] kormoc: xris, another use for sec.pl that I think I might not have told you about :)
[05:48:00] xris: kormoc: I really need to get that installed
[05:48:00] ** kormoc nods **
[05:48:00] xris: yes, that's awesome
[05:48:00] johnt: Cardoe: mysql-server 4.0.24–10ubuntu2
[05:49:00] xris: should make an rpm for it.
[05:49:00] EnterUserName: ffmpeg had critical errors:
[05:49:00] EnterUserName: Unable for find a suitable output format for 'The Outer Limits – Lion's Den'
[05:49:00] EnterUserName: ??
[05:49:00] Cardoe: johnt: hrm that shouldn't happen
[05:49:00] EnterUserName: hey xris does the export to ipod work
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[05:50:00] xris: EnterUserName: for some people
[05:50:00] xris: needs a little tweaking, then it'll work for more people (as long as the PSP tweaks also fix ipod)
[05:50:00] EnterUserName: oh not for me.. letme try DVCD
[05:50:00] johnt: i found this on google: Okay, I solved it — somehow, my 'record' table had an entry with a
[05:50:00] johnt: type
[05:50:00] johnt: of '2' (kTimeslotRecord), but the start/end times were 00:00:00. The
[05:50:00] johnt: class never seemed to recover, which threw off everything that
[05:50:00] johnt: followed, and explains why I was getting some good entries (the list is
[05:50:00] johnt: 'ORDER BY title ASC') — the bad entry was "Enterprise", so I got good
[05:50:00] johnt: results for any titles beginning with A-Em.
[05:50:00] johnt: I deleted the offending entry and all is right with the world.
[05:50:00] johnt: I still may take a look at the code, though... the master scheduler was
[05:50:00] johnt: chugging along quite nicely in spite of the bad entry, so I'd think the
[05:50:00] johnt: 'Recording Priorities' screen should be able to handle the situation
[05:50:00] johnt: gracefully as well.
[05:51:00] johnt: not sure how to fix this
[05:51:00] Beirdo: https://www2.beirdo.ca/cacti/graph.php?local_ . . . p;rra_id=all
[05:51:00] ChanServ sets mode +o xris
[05:51:00] Beirdo: for kormoc :)
[05:51:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[05:51:00] EnterUserName: what version of ffmpeg do ined?
[05:51:00] xris: johnt: /topic
[05:51:00] EnterUserName: it doesnt seem to be processing
[05:51:00] xris: you're just lucky I typo'd the op comand and couldn't kick you before your paste finished.
[05:51:00] Beirdo: root@magnum:~ # uptime
[05:51:00] Beirdo: 00:50:52 up 222 days, 2:01, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[05:51:00] kormoc: Beirdo, niceness :)
[05:52:00] Beirdo: eek, my devel server's been up for almost a year?
[05:52:00] johnt: sorry
[05:52:00] xris: EnterUserName: version is probably fine. just needs different compile options
[05:52:00] kormoc: Beirdo, I really need to start getting that installed
[05:52:00] EnterUserName: Hi xris: I have CVS version Built oCgt 16 2005
[05:52:00] EnterUserName: im using suses version
[05:52:00] xris: EnterUserName: mythtv doesn't use cvs
[05:52:00] xris: sorry, wrong program
[05:52:00] johnt: xris: sorry again, i'm new to irc
[05:52:00] xris: EnterUserName: no distro can compile ffmpeg with the correct options.
[05:52:00] xris: they are incompatible with the GPL
[05:53:00] xris: johnt: now you know.. just don't paste more than like 2 lines
[05:53:00] EnterUserName: what do you mean
[05:53:00] xris: EnterUserName: mpeg is patent-encumbered.. not compatible with the GPL
[05:53:00] EnterUserName: oh
[05:53:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[05:53:00] EnterUserName: so ineed to recompile ffmpeg
[05:53:00] EnterUserName: bah
[05:53:00] EnterUserName: i got it from packman
[05:53:00] EnterUserName: im sure it should work
[05:53:00] xris: there are third-party packages with everything turned on, or compile yourself.
[05:54:00] Beirdo: kormoc: cacti is a real nice thing if you are a graphing whore like me
[05:54:00] xris: kormoc: will build a package for sec.pl tomorrow at work.. will bug you about what needs to be done (I see a .c file but no makefile)
[05:56:00] kormoc: xris, where do you see a .c file?
[05:56:00] Beirdo: well, off to bed
[05:56:00] kormoc: sec.pl is a perl script
[05:56:00] xris: kormoc: itostream.c
[05:56:00] kormoc: night Beirdo
[05:56:00] xris: it's in the tarball
[05:56:00] Beirdo: did my geek deed for the day
[05:56:00] EnterUserName: lol
[05:56:00] EnterUserName: my fileis too large to fit on my ipod
[05:56:00] EnterUserName: bah
[05:57:00] kormoc: xris, ahh, that's just a demo for reading events from a OV Operations
[05:57:00] kormoc: xris, it can just be ignored :)
[05:57:00] xris: ah, ok
[05:57:00] xris: so sec.pl, convert.pl and the sysV script?
[05:58:00] Beirdo: tomorrow I might setup symon on my openbsd firewall to allow me to export the stats for the traffic shaping queues
[05:58:00] kormoc: xris, convert just converts sec config files from v 1.1 to 2.0
[05:58:00] Beirdo: I really want to graph that :)
[05:58:00] kormoc: xris, sel.pl.man is important as well
[05:58:00] kormoc: Beirdo, niceness
[05:58:00] xris: oh, yeah..
[05:58:00] EnterUserName: xris: which version of ffmpeg should i download
[05:58:00] Beirdo: graphs are cool
[05:58:00] xris: EnterUserName: the latest?
[05:58:00] kormoc: xris, I actually just have sec.pl in my cron on @reboot
[05:58:00] Beirdo: anyways, night
[05:59:00] kormoc: night Beirdo
[05:59:00] xris: it's hard to say. the latest cvs release is probably best.
[05:59:00] xris: but they keep changing the cli options so I can't keep up with it in nuvexport sometimes.
[05:59:00] xris: I have 2005-12–07 cvs package installed
[05:59:00] xris: ah
[06:00:00] d3ity: hey all
[06:00:00] d3ity: my picture is ultra-grainy
[06:00:00] d3ity: any suggestions?
[06:02:00] xris: d3ity: grainy? or pixelated?
[06:02:00] xris: grain comes from bad lighting when they shot the tv show.
[06:02:00] xris: pixelation comes from low bitrate encoding.
[06:05:00] d3ity: xris, pixelated would be a good way to describe it
[06:05:00] EnterUserName: hey xris
[06:05:00] EnterUserName: what do i need to compile to get mpeg to work?
[06:05:00] d3ity: xris, its liveTV, so basically crank up the bitrate?
[06:05:00] xris: yup
[06:05:00] EnterUserName: for ffmpeg?
[06:05:00] xris: and resolution
[06:05:00] xris: EnterUserName: no clue
[06:05:00] EnterUserName: Didnt you compile it?
[06:06:00] xris: no
[06:06:00] xris: I have a working rpm from freshrpms.net for fedora.
[06:06:00] xris: ffmpeg says it was compiled with: --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-mp3lame --enable-libogg --enable-vorbis --enable-theora --enable-faad --enable-faac --enable-libgsm --enable-xvid --enable-x264 --enable-a52 --enable-a52bin --enable-dts --enable-pp --enable-shared-pp --enable-shared --enable-pthreads --enable-gpl --disable-opts --disable-strip
[06:06:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[06:06:00] d3ity: xris, i cranked the bitrate to something like 10700 and its still grainy and pixelTed.
[06:06:00] xris: I also don't use ffmpeg... I prefer transcode. slightly slower, but better quality on xvid output.
[06:06:00] EnterUserName: oh my id have to look for alot of files for that
[06:06:00] EnterUserName: bah
[06:06:00] xris: d3ity: resolution?
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[06:07:00] d3ity: xris, all the way up
[06:07:00] xris: d3ity: could just be your card.
[06:07:00] d3ity: does the stream type matter?
[06:07:00] d3ity: xris, nvidia fx5200
[06:08:00] xris: d3ity: tuner, not video out
[06:08:00] d3ity: and a hauppage PVR150
[06:08:00] kormoc: streamtype does matter, different ones give different quality
[06:08:00] xris: should be fine. can't change stream type with that, anyway
[06:08:00] kormoc: ooh?
[06:08:00] kormoc: xris, it's an option in ivtvctrl
[06:08:00] xris: kormoc: only works with PS, from what I recall
[06:09:00] kormoc: huh
[06:09:00] d3ity: xris, what stream type should i be using? MPEG2-PS is what i have
[06:09:00] kormoc: well, if that's the only one that works, then it's just that
[06:10:00] d3ity: whats the best stream type possible? as far as picture quality?
[06:10:00] kormoc: I've been told that dvd is the best
[06:11:00] Chutt: they're all the same wrt picture quality.
[06:11:00] d3ity: Chutt, what could get rid of this pixelation
[06:11:00] Chutt: how do i know it's pixelation?
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[06:23:00] sosumi: try changing channels
[06:24:00] Cardoe: just blame Chutt
[06:24:00] ** Cardoe wonders what we're blaming him for. **
[06:24:00] sosumi: d3ity's problem
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[06:30:00] jams: is mythtv able to pass dynamic parameters to a user job? Things like the filename, size or other attributes about the recording.
[06:31:00] sosumi: yes
[06:31:00] sosumi: i can google it for you if you type out the whole alphabet
[06:32:00] Captain_Murdoch: jams, look at jobqueue.cpp and search for HANID% and you'll see a whole list of things you can use on the command line for the job.
[06:32:00] jams: thanks Captain_Murdoch
[06:32:00] Captain_Murdoch: sorry, that HANID% should have a "percent C" in front of it, xchat decided I wanted something else though. :)
[06:32:00] sosumi: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/20 . . . /004233.html
[06:33:00] sosumi: scroll down to middle of page
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[06:34:00] Captain_Murdoch: I think I've added a few more regex since then, that's why I referred to the source. I've got a couple more in my SVN tree now that will go in pretty soon, like specifying the jobid and transcoding profile to go along with another patch I'm working on.
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[06:35:00] Captain_Murdoch: I've thought of making a little perl library to do things like update the jobqueue comment and status fields so User Jobs could interact better. I use the archive job quite a bit and it would be nice for it and other things to be able to update the DB.
[06:35:00] xris: Captain_Murdoch: I've pondered writing a whole MythTV:: perl module set for cpan
[06:35:00] xris: problem is that mythtv keeps changing the db/protocol/etc.
[06:36:00] Captain_Murdoch: :) yeah... progress... ;)
[06:36:00] xris: I keep copying so much code between things like nuvexport and mythrename.pl that it'd be better to have it in a central location.
[06:37:00] xris: well, progress is fine if I didn't want to put it in cpan.
[06:37:00] xris: then someone would upgrade cpan and break nuvexport or whatever.
[06:37:00] Captain_Murdoch: well, it could go in SVN for now until it stabilizes or has some better backwards compatibility.
[06:37:00] xris: yeah
[06:38:00] xris: or mythtv could just install it...
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[06:38:00] xris: mythtv-perl package
[06:39:00] xris: need to create a new section in svn for stuff that isn't a plugin but isn't really "mythtv" either.. like nuvexport, mythweb, perl libraries, etc.
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[06:39:00] Captain_Murdoch: mythextras
[06:39:00] xris: yeah
[06:40:00] xris: Chutt: any objections?
[06:40:00] Captain_Murdoch: not sure if he's around, haven't seen him all night.
[06:40:00] xris: he was just here
[06:40:00] Captain_Murdoch: oh, must have missed him...
[06:40:00] xris: had a user suggest I rename nuvexport to mythexport now that svn uses more than just the nuv suffix.
[06:40:00] Captain_Murdoch: :) he was and I wasn't.
[06:41:00] xris: would have to look into repository merging... bet that's a pain
[06:41:00] jams: Captain_Murdoch- found the things I was looking for =)
[06:42:00] Captain_Murdoch: everything you need there?
[06:42:00] jams: yep
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[06:50:00] jams: with the livetv files going into the recordings dir, I started running into IO problems.
[06:50:00] gpx1000: need some help with an HDTV 3000 card...
[06:51:00] gpx1000: how do I check if XvMC is actually running?
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[06:52:00] jams: gpx1000- the osd will be greyscale
[06:53:00] gpx1000: jams, it's not greyscale
[06:53:00] gpx1000: transparancy also works.
[06:55:00] Captain_Murdoch: it'd be nice if someone got the urge to scratch the "multiple recording directories" itch after 0.19 was out. :)
[06:55:00] gpx1000: It's just I think this is using software decoding and I have the hardware for more... using 90% of CPU isn't quite what I was hoping for.
[06:55:00] xris: Captain_Murdoch: combine that with the ability for the backends to pass files around between each other to make the best use of space.
[06:56:00] jams: yes that would be nice
[06:56:00] xris: ie. pop a backend on your file server and never run out of disk space on your recording box again.
[06:56:00] gpx1000: Also, the image that's captured is really bright... it's not normal quality.
[06:58:00] gpx1000:
[06:58:00] Captain_Murdoch: xris, that'd be fairly trivial as a user job. I have 3 different drives that my recordings go onto already. I use the archive user job and it copies them around and links them back in to the main recording directory. it'd be easy enough though to have something copy the file to another backend then adjust the DB to update the hostname.
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[06:58:00] jams: gpx1000- sure sounds like XvMC is not enabled. For the brightness you might be able to adjust the values with the f or g key.
[06:58:00] xris: Captain_Murdoch: but that requires ssh keys, etc.. better to just have the backend use its own protocols for that.
[06:58:00] gpx1000: jams, how do I enable XvMC?
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[06:59:00] Captain_Murdoch: that's what nfs is for. ;)
[06:59:00] xris: yes
[06:59:00] xris: but having it built in would mean users don't have to know/think about nfs
[06:59:00] Captain_Murdoch: I've used nfs with Myth since day 1 (and that was pre-0.7)
[07:00:00] Captain_Murdoch: yeah, point taken.
[07:00:00] xris: I try to think of making as little work for the users as possible
[07:01:00] gpx1000: jams, f and g key do nothing.
[07:01:00] jams: gpx1000- it's an option on the playback settings.
[07:01:00] jams: also myth needs to be compiled with xvmc support.
[07:01:00] gpx1000: jams, yeah, so that option... didn't do anything.
[07:02:00] gpx1000: jams, using the aptrpms... guess I'll have to recompile eh?
[07:02:00] jams: if you have the option then it's already compiled with xvmc support
[07:03:00] jams: you will have to look at the log files for clues as to why it's not working
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[07:07:00] xris: anyone off-hand know how to make sed match the whole file instead of line-by-line? like perl's s/foo/bar/s mode
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[07:10:00] gpx1000: jams, hrm... still @ 90%
[07:10:00] gpx1000: what log files should I check to find the XvMC stuff... it says in the mythbackend output that it's using XV
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[07:11:00] jams: xris what do you mean by whole file vs line by line?
[07:13:00] xris: jams: want to pull a header off of a file...
[07:13:00] xris: match everything up to ^#!
[07:13:00] jams: gpx1000- look in the frontend log file and the Xorg log files
[07:13:00] xris: and delete it
[07:13:00] xris: sample script has a bunch of non-script at the top that I want to get rid of
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[07:18:00] gpx1000: jams, the mythfrontend is reporting using XV port 271
[07:19:00] gpx1000: jams, I also get an error stating couldn't get the color key color.
[07:19:00] Juski: does channum have to start at 1000 in the channel table?
[07:20:00] gpx1000: jams, Xorg.log contains no reference to XvMC
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[07:23:00] Juski: erm.. I mean does the column chanid have to start at 1000 in the channel table?
[07:24:00] Chutt: chanid is an internal id.
[07:24:00] Chutt: it just has to be unique.
[07:24:00] Juski: Chutt: I know. I'm making a script to insert channels into the DB
[07:24:00] Chutt: then why'd you ask?
[07:25:00] Juski: I just thought I'd check that the uniqueness was the only criteria :)
[07:25:00] Juski: thanks anyway, Chutt
[07:25:00] dasOp: according to some docs, chanid is generated by combining the sourceid with 0–99
[07:26:00] dasOp: but I've never seen it matter
[07:26:00] Chutt: that's just so it's readable
[07:26:00] dasOp: yeah, I figured that was just some convention they used and nothing vital
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[07:28:00] Juski: cool
[07:28:00] xris: wow.. found out how to confuse the schedyuler
[07:28:00] dasOp: perhaps it found out how to confuse you? :)
[07:28:00] xris: just had it schedule 2 shows at the same time on the same card. heh.
[07:28:00] xris: Chutt: you still here?
[07:28:00] Chutt: yes
[07:29:00] xris: you see the thing above about mythextras?
[07:29:00] Chutt: no
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[07:29:00] xris: Captain_Murdoch and I were talking about a place to put stuff that is neither plugin nor "mythtv" in the repository.. like nuvexport, mythweb and a collection of perl libraries for interacting with myth
[07:29:00] Chutt: other stuff, sure
[07:29:00] Chutt: mythweb wouldn't fit :p
[07:30:00] xris: mythweb isn't a plugin, though
[07:30:00] Chutt: so?
[07:30:00] xris: I'm an organization nut when it comes to files.
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[07:30:00] xris: anyway, pondering moving nuvexport back into the myth svn tree and (on the suggestion of one of the users) renaming it to mythexport
[07:31:00] Chutt: sure, whatever
[07:31:00] xris: ok, will create a mythextras at the same level as mythplugins, then.
[07:31:00] xris: but why not move mythweb in there?
[07:31:00] Chutt: because i think it belongs where it is
[07:31:00] xris: ok
[07:31:00] xris: just seems odd to me (always has)
[07:32:00] Chutt: yes, you've said that before :p
[07:32:00] xris: but at least there's a place for new stuff (which for now will just be nuvexport/mythexport)
[07:33:00] xris: dunno when it'll happen. first need to figure out how to merge svn repositories.
[07:33:00] xris: and then get Beirdo commit access
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[07:42:00] Chutt: damnit
[07:42:00] Chutt: fucking idiot spamming my dev list
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[07:46:00] ruiner: i've had mythtv working fine for a while now, but recently when i try to watch tv (or playback recorded tv shows) the video & sound skips very badly. i can't find any reason for it happening, the machine is more than fast enough, and there is nothing else running in the background
[07:46:00] ruiner: any ideas how to fix this?
[07:47:00] kormoc: ruiner, nvidia card?
[07:48:00] ruiner: the graphics card is a geforce2, yes
[07:48:00] kormoc: downgrade the nvidia driver to -7676 or lower
[07:48:00] ruiner: oh ok
[07:48:00] ruiner: latest release of mythtv have some problem with newer drivers?
[07:49:00] Chutt: newer drivers are broken if you use opengl vsync.
[07:49:00] ruiner: thanks
[07:49:00] Chutt: of course, kormac should have asked if cpu was maxed out.
[07:49:00] kormoc: Chutt, actually, he already said it wasn't :)
[07:49:00] ruiner: =P
[07:49:00] ruiner: at any rate, thanks for the help
[07:50:00] Chutt: then it's not the driver.
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[07:50:00] kormoc: well, he said nothing else was being run
[07:50:00] Chutt: and downgrading revisions would be a waste of time.
[07:50:00] kormoc: not that myth itself wasn't hogging it
[07:50:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[07:50:00] Chutt: uh, the vsync stuff manifests as 100% cpu usage.
[07:50:00] Chutt: during playback.
[07:51:00] kormoc: Chutt, yeah, but I'd assume by "there is nothing else running in the background" it would mean only myth is eating the cpu
[07:51:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[07:51:00] Chutt: he didn't say anything about anything using all the cpu.
[07:51:00] kormoc: there's plenty of other reasons to keep the nvidia driver below 8xxx in anycase
[07:51:00] Chutt: telling people to do unnecessary stuff is lame.
[07:51:00] Chutt: such as...?
[07:52:00] kormoc: broken composite rendering it would seem, as well as bad gldrawable errors when doing anything with vertex shaders.
[07:52:00] Chutt: composite is more stable than it was before
[07:53:00] Chutt: and i haven't seen the gldrawable error reported
[07:53:00] Chutt: nor seen it myself.
[07:53:00] kormoc: shows up major with civ4
[07:53:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
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[07:54:00] kormoc: Chutt, I crash when I have a opengl program running and a transparent window is placed overtop of it
[07:55:00] gpx1000: has anyone had any luck with pcHDTV 3000 card with Myth?
[07:55:00] Chutt: that's still not a very good reason to blindly tell someone to downgrade.
[07:56:00] Chutt: not verifying what the problem is is bad.
[07:56:00] kormoc: fair nuff
[07:57:00] Chutt: there's more bad advice given in this channel than good, and that's pretty sucky.
[07:57:00] jams: xris, you could do print all the lines after the regex. That should do what you want
[07:58:00] xris: jams: yeah... now to figure out how to do that. heh
[07:58:00] xris: I'm not a great sed user.
[07:59:00] jams: something like sed -n '/^#!/,$p' filename should work
[07:59:00] jams: assuming that ^#! is the regex you wanted
[08:00:00] xris: yeah
[08:00:00] xris: what's the $p?
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[08:03:00] gpx1000: hrm, well next question... I want to connect mythphone with Asterisk... I've gotten other SIP clients to work on the localhost, can't get mythphone to connect... anyone got mythphone and asterisk to work on the same box?
[08:14:00] jams: the p is "print" the rest is range
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[09:41:00] BlackJudas: omg I'm gonna blow a gasket soon... ivtv = shit
[09:42:00] jusk1: ivtv != shit
[09:42:00] BlackJudas: Heh.. nah, just spent a whole day trying to get this firmware to load...
[09:43:00] BlackJudas: it loads most of it, bbut fails to load two of 'em.
[09:43:00] jusk1: pvr350?
[09:43:00] BlackJudas: And I can't find what the error codes it's giving me..
[09:43:00] BlackJudas: nah pvr150
[09:43:00] jusk1: pvr150 just needs 2 files
[09:44:00] jusk1: one for the mpeg encoder & the other so it can work out what the audio standard is
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: cx25840 5–0044: cx25843–23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: cx25840 5–0044: unable to open firmware HcwMakoA.ROM
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: wm8775 5–001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
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[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: ivtv0 warning: failed loading encoder firmware
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: ivtv0 warning: Error loading firmware -3!
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: ivtv0: Error -3 initializing firmware.
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Jan 12 09:34:31 localhost kernel: ivtv0: Error -12 on initialization
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: Gah... I've followed the howto though..
[09:44:00] jusk1: the filenames changed with ivtv 0.4.1
[09:44:00] BlackJudas: I'm using 0.4.0
[09:45:00] BlackJudas: Because I was told not to use it...
[09:45:00] jusk1: I installed a pvr150 following the howto last saturday
[09:45:00] BlackJudas: not to use 0.4.1
[09:45:00] jusk1: 0.4.1 works okay on my ubuntu system
[09:45:00] jusk1: and it happily cohabits with my DVB tuners
[09:45:00] BlackJudas: it's a pvr150mce, though ... apparently there's no difference
[09:45:00] BlackJudas: hrrm
[09:46:00] jusk1: who told you not to use 0.4.1? it's still classed as 'stable' by the ivtv guys
[09:46:00] BlackJudas: I have that HcwMakoA.ROM file everywhere... and .... it won't load the damned thing
[09:46:00] BlackJudas: a few people in this channel
[09:46:00] jusk1: hrm
[09:46:00] BlackJudas: earlier today
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[09:47:00] BlackJudas: It loads 3 firmware files, and the rest it doesn't. And I just don't get it...
[09:47:00] BlackJudas: at all.
[09:47:00] jusk1: that file.. shouldn't it be copied into your hotplug directory?
[09:47:00] BlackJudas: it's in /lib/modules /lib/firmware /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware directories... just to be sure
[09:47:00] fatmatt: anyone using the harmony 880?
[09:48:00] jusk1: I thought there were only 2 firmware files needed.. if I had my ubuntu box powered up (or WOL-able) I'd check for you
[09:49:00] BlackJudas: Hrrm...
[09:49:00] BlackJudas: you followed the ivtv howto?
[09:50:00] jusk1: yep
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[09:52:00] jusk1: for the pvr150, using ivtv 0.4.0 you need: ivtv-fw-enc.bin and HcwMakoA.ROM
[09:52:00] jusk1: that's it.. no other ones
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[10:01:00] BlackJudas: Then why is it trying to load all the other crap?
[10:01:00] BlackJudas: :/
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[10:09:00] jusk1: BlackJudas: no idea... try asking in #ivtv or #ivtv-dev .. whichever works
[10:18:00] BlackJudas: k thanks
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[11:06:00] adante: i just upgraded to svn and now the recording system seems to be incredibly... confused? I set a program to record while watching live tv, which started recording. Except when I goto watch recordings, it doesn't think it's recording. EPG does, and so does the upcoming guide. When I try to tell the guide to record something else, it has no effect. Is cvs currently broken or is my setup just horribly monged?
[11:06:00] t00m: does nuvexport have a mailing list or anything where i can complain?
[11:08:00] jusk1: I give up
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[11:08:00] t00m: ?
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[11:30:00] t00m: wtf does it do that: ffmpeg: unrecognized option '-hq'
[11:31:00] t00m: there isn't even an option to disable hq while configuring it..
[11:32:00] jusk1: is there an echo in here? could've sworn I saw that go unanswered the other day too
[11:32:00] t00m: maybe the readers changed...
[11:33:00] t00m: do you want to point me to the right mailinglist?
[11:33:00] jusk1: t00m: try it without the -hq option. the -hq option actually _en_ables high quality
[11:33:00] t00m: ah, hang on
[11:33:00] t00m: well, nuvexport uses that option
[11:34:00] jusk1: strangely, I found that out in the ffmpeg documentation on their sourceforce page
[11:34:00] t00m: and i thought, if nuvexport uses it, there needs to be a way to actually enable it
[11:34:00] t00m: yes, i've been reading that as well
[11:35:00] t00m: unfortunately it doesn't explain, that high quality settings do
[11:36:00] t00m: what..
[11:37:00] t00m: but yes, maybe you're right and i should just cheat the nuvexport script
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[11:40:00] jusk1: t00m: I think it's safe to assume the -hq option switches in some extra processing – the net result of which is increased video quality at the output
[11:40:00] jusk1: look in the source if you wanna know exactly what it does ;)
[11:48:00] confusi0n: any idea what i'd do if i'd deleted the .mpg's in /mnt/store, and now mythfrontend crashes when it tries to open them?
[11:49:00] confusi0n: anyway to reset thm?
[11:51:00] jusk1: confusi0n: yup
[11:51:00] confusi0n: how?
[11:51:00] confusi0n: its probably mythfilldatabase or something, but mythfilldatabase keeps hanging on 'updating icons'
[11:51:00] jusk1: look in the mythbackend log & find where it complains that it can't find the files
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[11:52:00] jusk1: then use the touch command to create dummy files of 0 bytes
[11:52:00] confusi0n: ah
[11:52:00] confusi0n: nice one
[11:52:00] confusi0n: ill try it
[11:52:00] confusi0n: should have thought of that, lol
[11:52:00] jusk1: then myth will be able to delete them properly – i.e. delete the file & teh DB entry
[11:52:00] ** confusi0n nods **
[11:52:00] jusk1: so now you know not to delete recordings like that ;)
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[11:52:00] confusi0n: 2006-01–12 12:03:02.470 Updating icons for sourceid: 1
[11:53:00] confusi0n: any idea why mythfilldatabase would hang here?
[11:53:00] jusk1: ?
[11:53:00] jusk1: erm... it's set to the wrong grabber?
[11:53:00] jusk1: tv_grab_uk_rt doesn't grab icons
[11:54:00] jusk1: btw...
[11:54:00] ** confusi0n nods **
[11:54:00] jusk1: http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/new.txt
[11:54:00] confusi0n: so why is it trying? lol... kewl ill check it out
[11:55:00] jusk1: don't use it – it's not quite finished yet.. but it parses the chans.txt file & puts channels into the DB
[11:55:00] confusi0n: kewl
[11:55:00] confusi0n: that sounds wicked
[11:57:00] confusi0n: hmm, the file exists but i dont think it can poen it
[11:57:00] confusi0n: Invalid file handle when opening /mnt/store//1004_20060112120726.mpg. 6 retries remaining.
[11:58:00] jusk1: wrong permissions?
[11:59:00] confusi0n: im running as root, so it should be ok
[11:59:00] confusi0n: ill try through
[11:59:00] confusi0n: heh, you were absolutely right
[11:59:00] confusi0n: weird that
[11:59:00] confusi0n: since im running both be and fe as root
[12:06:00] confusi0n: hmm
[12:06:00] confusi0n: brb
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[12:07:00] adante: why would a program be 'recstatus: notlisted'?
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[12:08:00] adante: when i try to schedule a recording from mythfrontend, it seems to produce this (in mythweb)
[12:08:00] adante: and it does not record (needs to be activated via mythweb)
[12:08:00] adante: while if i schedule from mythweb, it works fine
[12:09:00] Arkkis: hey, mythbackend has problems every now and then, it says that connection to mysql could not be made that the mysql server went away. restarting mythbackend helps, but it's quite annoying to see that your recordings did not happen because of this problem
[12:09:00] Arkkis: has anyone seen similar problem or even better, a solution?
[12:10:00] adante: as far as I can tell the difference in entries from mythweb vs those via frontend in the mysql record table are identical (apart from id, name etc)
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[12:19:00] dasOp: an identical difference?
[12:23:00] adante: i mean, entries are identical
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[12:34:00] adante: ok, when i hit the TOGGLERECORD button in the mythfrontend epg, *that* records
[12:34:00] adante: but actually going into the options, setting it to record, and then hitting save does not
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[12:47:00] Kelerion: jusk1.. you know that cableuniverse site?
[12:47:00] Kelerion: I ordered that dvi cable yesterday – and it came this morning.. on standard delivery.. so if you want anything.. don't bother with the 10 quid for the courier
[12:49:00] jusk1: Kelerion: cheers for letting me know that :)
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[13:03:00] Kelerion: ok – new card and new dvi card .. all working.. gotta setup all the resolution again now.. lol
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[13:50:00] confusi0n: thta was intense
[13:50:00] confusi0n: this better work
[13:52:00] Arkkis: ?
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[13:53:00] confusi0n: with the dbox as input
[13:53:00] confusi0n: you have to manually enter every single channel
[13:53:00] confusi0n: = v. sore fingers
[13:53:00] Arkkis: :)
[13:53:00] Arkkis: luckily I had only 10 or so channels to edit
[13:53:00] confusi0n: that was just for the listings
[13:53:00] confusi0n: i have to change all the names now so they match those on the dbox
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[13:54:00] confusi0n: and it makes me cry arkkis
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[13:54:00] confusi0n: it makes me cry
[13:54:00] confusi0n: i bet it doesn't work either
[13:54:00] laga: levon is working on a channel scanner
[13:54:00] Arkkis: sounds promising
[13:54:00] Arkkis: I did wonder why is there no such thing already in mythtv
[13:55:00] Arkkis: also the setup stuff is somewhat unfriendly
[13:55:00] confusi0n: lega: excellent
[13:56:00] laga: well, there is channel scanning in mythtv, just not for the dbox :)
[13:56:00] Arkkis: is there?
[13:57:00] GreyFoxx: For DVB, and Analog cards I believe
[13:57:00] Arkkis: is it in new versions or has it been for ages
[13:57:00] laga: yep.
[13:57:00] Arkkis: as I was not able to find one from my version for my analog card
[13:57:00] laga: scanning for analog cards was not in 0.18.1 yet, i think.
[13:57:00] GreyFoxx: There has been since 0.18 at least, I can't remember bnefore that
[13:57:00] GreyFoxx: DVB scanning that is
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[13:57:00] Arkkis: 0.18.1.20050510–1 is my backend version
[13:58:00] confusi0n: if mythfilldatabase crashes now
[13:58:00] confusi0n: ill kil someone
[13:58:00] Arkkis: heh
[13:58:00] laga: it would be cool if the analog scanning stuff could pull out the station names out of the vbi data, kinda like scantv (from xawtv) does.
[13:58:00] Arkkis: it would be cool if mythtv setup would be redone totally to be an userfriendly experience
[13:58:00] ** GreyFoxx has never even attempted an analog scan **
[13:58:00] laga: we could have mappings from station names to xmltv ids then. that would make the setup almost as comfortable as with zap2it
[13:59:00] confusi0n: how long should mythfilldatabase hang at 100% cpu for if its filling listings of around 200 channels?
[13:59:00] laga: GreyFoxx: i did one when i was bored. worked quite well but i had to look up which frequencies belonged to which channel, so it didn't save me any time over mythfilldatabase --manual, actually
[13:59:00] Arkkis: 200channels, ouch
[13:59:00] jusk1: hiya laga
[14:00:00] jusk1: done my channel scanning script.. 99% done anyway ;)
[14:00:00] laga: jusk1: sounds cool :). in perl?
[14:00:00] confusi0n: 2006-01–12 14:09:26.215 Updating icons for sourceid: 1
[14:00:00] confusi0n: Error inserting person
[14:00:00] confusi0n: lol
[14:00:00] confusi0n: what the fuck does that mean?
[14:00:00] Arkkis: I wish we'd get some proper scifi channels here in Finland, but looks like all our satellite packages suck, or include stuff that I do not want to pay for
[14:00:00] jusk1: laga: indeed... in perl
[14:00:00] confusi0n: jusk1: does it work?
[14:01:00] jusk1: yeps
[14:01:00] jusk1: just need to make it set the visible column to 1 in the insert command
[14:01:00] laga: jusk1: ohy, i hope i'll be able to wrap my head around it. i've always refused to hack perl scripts ;)
[14:02:00] Arkkis: confusi0n, it means that your program could not find a person to insert the data into database
[14:02:00] jusk1: laga: just a tiny bit of editing required to set your DB parameters
[14:02:00] laga: jusk1: well, i'd need the channel names put into the DB and that's it.
[14:02:00] confusi0n: well thats rediculous
[14:02:00] confusi0n: i didn't ask it to enter a person into the database
[14:02:00] Arkkis: confusi0n, I'm just messing around here, I really have no idea
[14:02:00] confusi0n: is it having a laugh?
[14:02:00] confusi0n: lol, i know so am i asshat :D
[14:03:00] laga: confusi0n: 'person' as in 'actor', maybe?=
[14:03:00] Arkkis: laga, why would filldatabase need actors?
[14:03:00] laga: Arkkis: well, because mythtv can display them then?
[14:04:00] laga: you know, that's why we have EPG :)
[14:04:00] GreyFoxx: cause myth will also store the actors who were in a show./movie/event as well as the title of the show :)
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[14:04:00] Arkkis: ah
[14:04:00] Arkkis: I've had to use tv_grab_fi
[14:04:00] Arkkis: so I get no such data
[14:05:00] laga: why would mythfilldatabase complain then? weird
[14:05:00] GreyFoxx: sounds like maybe his people table is corrupt or missing ?
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[14:05:00] laga: maybe his grabber gives him broken xml? :)
[14:06:00] ivor: gaaah my dad is driving me nuts.
[14:06:00] Arkkis: I'm not the one having the problem with the person insertion
[14:06:00] GreyFoxx: When processing the actors if one doesn't have a entry in "people" it inserts one, and then pulls it back out. If it fails to pull it back out he would get that error
[14:06:00] ivor: why can't people just READ instructions.
[14:06:00] laga: ivor: LART him?
[14:06:00] Arkkis: ivor, because they're lazy
[14:06:00] laga: GreyFoxx: oh, ok. i wasn't aware of this behaviour
[14:06:00] sndguru: question for any gurus out there
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[14:07:00] Arkkis: anyways, since people are asking guru questions, what's up with mythbackend dying and complaining about:
[14:07:00] sndguru: I'm tring to open mysql for access to a remote frontend
[14:07:00] Arkkis: Database error was:
[14:07:00] GreyFoxx: laga: I wasn't eaither, I just looked at the source ;)
[14:07:00] Arkkis: MySQL server has gone away
[14:07:00] Arkkis: I mean, mysql is up and running, and restartinh mythbackend fixes the problem
[14:08:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: grant all on mythconverg.* to 'mythtv'@'REMOTEIPHERE' identified by 'mythtv';
[14:08:00] GreyFoxx: obviously fill in the right IP
[14:08:00] laga: GreyFoxx: i've already got a headache so i won't do that ;)
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[14:09:00] ivor: laga: I've sent him an RTFM email
[14:09:00] sndguru: yep but the backend machine isn't listen on a port
[14:09:00] laga: ivor: hehe
[14:09:00] GreyFoxx: edit your my.cnf and comment out the "skip-networking" line
[14:09:00] GreyFoxx: then restart mysql
[14:09:00] sndguru: cool
[14:09:00] sndguru: i have a look
[14:10:00] GreyFoxx: Also look for a listen or listen-on type line that might have it bind to lcoalhost only
[14:10:00] ivor: laga: I'll have to get him to put the machine on the net and I'll just set it all up over ssh.
[14:10:00] Arkkis: :/
[14:10:00] laga: ivor: is he running some unixoid OS?
[14:11:00] sndguru: hrmm no "skip-networking" line
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[14:11:00] jusk1: hooooo kay
[14:11:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: then move on to the next thing I said :)
[14:11:00] jusk1: laga: http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/juski.tar.bz2
[14:12:00] jusk1: you'll have to edit the config.txt file to use getchans
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[14:12:00] laga: jusk1: thanks, i'll fiddle with it
[14:12:00] jusk1: and you'll need to edit the insertchan file to set the DB stuff up... username, DB name, password, IP addy, etc
[14:13:00] jusk1: other than that – should work.. DB I've been testing it on (so's not to disturb my production system) is mythtest
[14:13:00] laga: jusk1: i don't think i want it to mess with my DB yet. i'll see if i can make spit out some debugging output
[14:13:00] jusk1: might be best to backup your DB before running it
[14:13:00] jusk1: laga: set debug=1 in insertchans
[14:14:00] jusk1: it'll show you the SQL command it'd use, like http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads.output.txt
[14:14:00] sndguru: i've tried running this $ mysql -u root mythconverg
[14:14:00] jusk1: make that http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/output.txt
[14:14:00] sndguru: but get this ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[14:15:00] sndguru: that what the myth doc says
[14:15:00] sndguru: :)
[14:15:00] laga: thx
[14:15:00] jusk1: np.. doing this for the good of the community
[14:15:00] sndguru: the /etc/my.cnf is very short
[14:16:00] laga: jusk1: gee ;)
[14:16:00] jusk1: and it never hurts to learn to code even just a crappy little script
[14:16:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: You will likely need to supply your root mysql password as well
[14:16:00] sndguru: :) – yep ok
[14:17:00] jusk1: laga: I'm gonna put all the configure stuff into config.txt.. just have to add some PERL to parse it
[14:17:00] jusk1: that can wait though
[14:17:00] laga: yep
[14:17:00] jusk1: infact.. it could even use mysql.txt couldn't it? ;)
[14:17:00] laga: hehe. look at optimise_mythtv.pl in contrib/ (SVN)
[14:17:00] laga: or at nuvexport, for example
[14:18:00] Arkkis: what's causing this?
[14:18:00] Arkkis: http://arkkimaagi.pastebin.com/502366
[14:18:00] jusk1: ahhh..
[14:18:00] adante: zomg
[14:18:00] laga: i really like the new'
[14:18:00] laga: darn
[14:18:00] adante: upgraded svn to fix the recording not saving issue, now i can't watch live tv :D
[14:19:00] jusk1: the new what, laga?
[14:19:00] laga: i really like the 'new' search thing in mythmusic. however, when i'm using the smart shuffle mode and tell it to insert the track after the one that is currently playing, it'll become the very first song in the playlist. can anyone confirm?
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[14:20:00] laga: jusk1: ip_address=$(grep "address=" config.txt | awk -F "=" {'print $2'})
[14:20:00] laga: jusk1: ^^ that doesn't look very perlish ;)
[14:20:00] jusk1: laga: ;)
[14:20:00] jusk1: I never said it was all PERL
[14:21:00] sndguru: GreyFoxx: hrmm done a google search and can't access mysql
[14:21:00] laga: hehe
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[14:21:00] jusk1: I'll re-do it.. maybe have it as one command you pass different things to.. one to grab & one to fill
[14:21:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru:mysql -uroot -p
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[14:22:00] GreyFoxx: a -p will make it ask you for the root mysql users password
[14:23:00] sndguru: GreyFoxx: a little closer ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[14:23:00] laga: jusk1: chans.txt should look something like this later? :2714f001d09f,2. Eurosport News
[14:23:00] jusk1: ahh to hell – if levon's already working on grabbing the channel names etc there'll be no need
[14:23:00] GreyFoxx: and I assume you entered the correct password ?
[14:23:00] jusk1: laga: yep
[14:23:00] laga: jusk1: k
[14:23:00] sndguru: i've ssh'ed in
[14:23:00] sndguru: does that make a diff
[14:24:00] GreyFoxx: Remeber this is the root MYSQL user's password, not the root unix users password , though they might very well be the same
[14:24:00] GreyFoxx: no
[14:24:00] laga: jusk1: looks good so far :). i'll give it a try when i find some time, maybe tonight
[14:24:00] sndguru: hrmm, it's a mythtv-suite yum on fc4
[14:25:00] jusk1: laga: just do me a favour & back up your database before running it, k? I have a conscience ;)
[14:25:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: If that auto set the password for the root mysql user for you I have no idea what it would be
[14:25:00] GreyFoxx: maybe try "mythtv" ? *shrug*
[14:25:00] laga: jusk1: you do have one? wow, you still manage to surprise me :)
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[14:25:00] laga: jusk1: i'll need to modify your script anyways so it'll be my own fault :)
[14:25:00] jusk1: heheh
[14:26:00] laga: jusk1: that wouldn't keep me from blaming it on you, though ;)
[14:26:00] jusk1: caveat emptor, etc etc
[14:26:00] sndguru: GreyFoxx: :) sounds like one of thou's, so is that want you think I need to do
[14:26:00] sndguru: gain access to mysql
[14:27:00] jusk1: channel name: Pwn3D 8y Ju5k1
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: Well, to grant remote access you will need to login as the root sql user
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: no way around it :)
[14:27:00] sndguru: cool
[14:27:00] sndguru: i look into it
[14:28:00] sndguru: otherwise any au people using oxtivo guide
[14:28:00] sndguru: oztivo
[14:28:00] sndguru: :)
[14:29:00] jusk1: jees – I must've written like 100 lines of working code by now. might make a programmer of me yet
[14:30:00] sndguru: http://www.tvguide.org.au/
[14:30:00] jusk1: (kidding)
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[14:30:00] sndguru: tring to find the best guide for perth australia
[14:31:00] sndguru: no one
[14:31:00] ** GreyFoxx misses Perth **
[14:31:00] sndguru: ???
[14:31:00] sndguru: been a perthy
[14:31:00] GreyFoxx: I use to live there
[14:31:00] GreyFoxx: 9 years ago :)
[14:31:00] sndguru: were u now
[14:32:00] GreyFoxx: Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada (Home
[14:32:00] sndguru: dude
[14:32:00] GreyFoxx: As far away as I can go without coming back :)
[14:32:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[14:32:00] sndguru: :) I was thinking that
[14:32:00] sndguru: mad, what got you there
[14:33:00] ircsloth: GreyFoxx: I'm in charlottetown
[14:33:00] sndguru: I can imagine you dvr's work great there
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: Well, I'm from here, and went to Oz cause I could :)
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: came home after a year and my Visa expired
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: Works very well :)
[14:33:00] sndguru: :) even be missing it asince :)
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: ircsloth: Cool, been there may times :)
[14:34:00] ircsloth: I was in Halifornia last weekend
[14:34:00] ircsloth: :-)
[14:34:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: Dude, I've been wanting to go back ever since, but something has always gotten in my way :)
[14:34:00] sndguru: not that I can talk, never left wa
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[14:34:00] sndguru: I feel luck here
[14:35:00] GreyFoxx: I've been all over, took a couple years and traveled, plus for a few years I travelled for work
[14:35:00] sndguru: wicked, and what prefered perth ??
[14:36:00] GreyFoxx: I showed up with a backpack, met a friend from IRC, and liked it so I stayed heh
[14:36:00] GreyFoxx: Was right on the water near the park and ferry
[14:36:00] sndguru: cool, tell you what the ferry systems changefd heaps since that time
[14:37:00] GreyFoxx: I bet :)
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[14:37:00] ** GreyFoxx was almost mugged in that park one night heh **
[14:37:00] sndguru: not that I use it, I'm way north
[14:37:00] sndguru: no way
[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: heh it was interesting to say the least :)
[14:38:00] Giggel: i'd use the ferry if it was going to matilda bay
[14:39:00] sndguru: GreyFoxx: so what breed on OS are you using for Myth
[14:39:00] GreyFoxx: Slackware
[14:40:00] adante: sndguru: if tvguide doesn't work, i think immirs tv_grab does perth
[14:40:00] sndguru: I've got one friend whos fc4 and another on ubuntu :P Only get help from one of them
[14:40:00] Giggel: i've got a working tv_grab for perth
[14:41:00] sndguru: I think that';s the one i'm running and nine hasn't worked for the last 7 days, and lose 7 time and again
[14:41:00] sndguru: ok Giggel which one
[14:41:00] Giggel: # --- new NMSN Australian TV grabber by Michael 'Immir' Smith...
[14:41:00] Giggel: # --- $Id: tv_grab_au,v 1.42 2005/11/09 21:22:51 michael Exp $
[14:42:00] sndguru: I've heard there a msn? one
[14:42:00] sndguru: hrmm
[14:42:00] sndguru: tv_grab_au – (version 0.6.2 – release 2005-05–31)
[14:42:00] Giggel: hmh
[14:42:00] sndguru: oh that's right I'm using a d1
[14:43:00] adante: immirs is ninemsn
[14:43:00] sndguru: cool
[14:43:00] sndguru: website
[14:43:00] adante: lol and it only stopped working last week?
[14:43:00] Giggel: http://immir.com/tv_grab_au ?
[14:43:00] jusk1: they probably stopped people scraping it by changing the format
[14:44:00] sndguru: when I was on mce I used a program call epgrunner.net never failed love to write a script around that.
[14:44:00] sndguru: I've been looking for that site for ages
[14:45:00] sndguru: :) 1.44 is there
[14:45:00] sndguru: time to upgrade Giggel
[14:45:00] Giggel: well
[14:45:00] adante: wierd, d1 stopped working for me about 2 years ago
[14:45:00] Giggel: never touch a broken system
[14:45:00] adante: i'm gonna stick with 1.42.. ain't broke...
[14:45:00] sndguru: that's a long time with no guide :)
[14:45:00] sndguru: there a life story Giggel
[14:46:00] ** sndguru pokes til it breaks **
[14:46:00] adante: yeah it would be :)
[14:46:00] Giggel: :)
[14:47:00] sndguru: someone remind me where the tv_grab script goes I forgotten
[14:47:00] adante: anybody else using svn 8575 (or > 8533)
[14:47:00] adante: ?
[14:47:00] Giggel: /usr/bin/?
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[14:48:00] Merlin83b: jusk1: The only place I could find to disable OTA guide stuff was per channel in mythtv-setup, so I just did it in the database (useonairguide=0 in channels) but no change on the prebuffering pauses :<
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[14:50:00] GreyFoxx: Merlin83b: Those will just stop it from inserting the data
[14:50:00] sndguru: thanks all for ya help and chat, hope to see yas around next time
[14:50:00] GreyFoxx: the EIT will still be brought in and parsed]
[14:50:00] sndguru: Giggel and GreyFoxx take it easy
[14:50:00] GreyFoxx: you have to disable it in the video source (if you are running svn)
[14:51:00] Merlin83b: GreyFoxx: Oh, I'm not on SVN – did the option to disable it get added since the last release then?
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: sndguru: Have fun
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: Merlin83b: Yes
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: I believe so
[14:51:00] Merlin83b: Oh, bugger.
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[14:51:00] Giggel: yeah, let's meet at the jetty next time :)
[14:51:00] Giggel: odh
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[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: The only other option is to recompile without it included
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[14:51:00] Merlin83b: Yeah, I only have my Epia box for the myth running Linux. Compiling could take a painfully long time.
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[14:52:00] Merlin83b: I could ask the age old, "When's .19 coming out?" but I won't ;-)
[14:52:00] GreyFoxx: How would it be painful? Start the compile, walk away and come back alter :)
[14:52:00] Merlin83b: A few days later ;-)
[14:53:00] GreyFoxx: It takes my old P3 650 40 minutes to compile myth from scratch, surely you can do it in under a day ;)
[14:53:00] ivor: or install another linux box for compilation. :)
[14:53:00] ivor: doesn't take tooo long on an epia anyway.
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[14:53:00] Merlin83b: Fair enough. I may have to give it a go, getting KnoppMyth set up to compile may prove to be entertaining too :-)
[14:54:00] ** ivor slaps Merlin83b **
[14:54:00] Merlin83b: :<
[14:54:00] Giggel: do want me to open distccport for you? :)
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[14:54:00] Merlin83b: See, I don't know that that is.
[14:54:00] Merlin83b: I'll have a go at compiling soon.
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[14:57:00] Giggel: finally
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[15:14:00] adante: time for the 20th rebuild today
[15:14:00] laga: ccache? :)
[15:15:00] jusk1: must look at putting ccache on my 'bongo box
[15:15:00] adante: nah compile is reasonably fast, it's my doddering which causes the slowdown :)
[15:16:00] laga: jusk1: aptitude install ccache
[15:16:00] laga: done
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[15:17:00] jusk1: actually I might rob my 2.8 Athlon out of da windows box, or try out the windows distcc thing.. then put discc on my 2ghz box too
[15:18:00] jusk1: gonna be a bit bored when I've finished these little projects
[15:18:00] laga: do my homework ;)
[15:18:00] jusk1: heh
[15:18:00] jusk1: might start the development of that UI setup thing I've been thinking about
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[15:19:00] laga: go for it :)
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[15:19:00] jusk1: one steep learning curve there I think.. having never drawn anything onscreen with QT
[15:20:00] jusk1: oh. that could be a no-no couldn't it?
[15:22:00] confusi0n: Invalid file handle when opening /mnt/store//1005_20060112153204.mpg. 0 retries remaining.
[15:22:00] confusi0n: any idea how i can fix this anyone? its as if livetv is trying to view the stream before its even captured
[15:22:00] jusk1: I thought it was working now
[15:23:00] confusi0n: for me, or in general?
[15:23:00] confusi0n: it stopped working again, lol
[15:23:00] confusi0n: i think i thought it was a perms issue because i got lucky
[15:23:00] confusi0n: sometimes it catches teh stream in time
[15:23:00] confusi0n: sometimes it fails
[15:24:00] jusk1: hmmm...
[15:24:00] jusk1: it'll either the dbox
[15:24:00] jusk1: or the dbox recorder class
[15:24:00] ** confusi0n nods **
[15:24:00] confusi0n: ill have a look
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[15:25:00] confusi0n: will it be in 'recording profiles'?
[15:25:00] jusk1: I'm talking about the source code
[15:26:00] jusk1: though the code isn't that complicated so I doubt it's mythtv's fault
[15:26:00] confusi0n: ah
[15:26:00] jusk1: well – apart from some translation/lookup thing it seems to do.. dunno what that bit's all about
[15:27:00] laga: well, there have been problems with the dbox2 where livetv just wouldn't start. but this has been fixed in SVN
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[15:27:00] jusk1: so, confusi0n: grab another slice of SVN
[15:28:00] confusi0n: nice, ill grab svn
[15:28:00] confusi0n: i better not loose my bloody db though after adding all those channels, lol
[15:28:00] jusk1: it's quite hard to keep up to date with commits.. you see nothing that interests you for ages, so you kinda switch off
[15:28:00] jusk1: confusi0n: help is now at hand for that
[15:29:00] confusi0n: you got that script workin jusk?
[15:29:00] laga: uhm, the issue i was talking about was resolved a long time ago
[15:29:00] stuarta: confusi0n: mysqldump
[15:29:00] confusi0n: laga: ah
[15:30:00] adante: aight if this doesn't work... i'm going to... sleep
[15:30:00] jusk1: yeh got my script working,,, was working at 6am today
[15:30:00] confusi0n: i keep getting that file handle message
[15:31:00] jusk1: confusi0n: there's no telling what else the english translators have done to the dbox code.. just do what I do & blame them
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[15:31:00] jusk1: makes me a blasphemer, so they can just bite me
[15:31:00] confusi0n: see now its working
[15:31:00] confusi0n: one second it works, the next it doesn't
[15:31:00] confusi0n: its baffling
[15:31:00] jusk1: you know how it 'does' direct file recording to a network share?
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[15:32:00] jusk1: that works about the same amount too
[15:32:00] jusk1: or works for an hour, then splits the files or crashes.. or both
[15:32:00] confusi0n: yeah i had that problem last night
[15:33:00] Beirdo: "network share" meaning samba?
[15:33:00] confusi0n: see now its just gone to shit
[15:33:00] confusi0n: RingBuf(/mnt/store//1013_20060112154300.mpg) Error: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()'
[15:33:00] Beirdo: don't use SMB, use NFSv3
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[15:33:00] jusk1: tried NFS too.. that's just crap aswell
[15:33:00] Beirdo: no it isn't
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[15:33:00] jusk1: Beirdo: on this box, with that software it is ;)
[15:33:00] Beirdo: if you can't get NFSv3 working properly, you ain't trying hard enough :)
[15:34:00] Beirdo: you MUST use v3 or v4 though
[15:34:00] Beirdo: v1 and v2 have no support for > 2G files
[15:34:00] jusk1: it mounts fine.. starts to write.. then it goes "parp!" after about 1GB file size
[15:34:00] Beirdo: you aren't using v3
[15:34:00] Beirdo: barrel:/opt/video /opt/video nfs rsize=32768,wsize=32768,
[15:35:00] Beirdo: soft,posix,nfsvers=3,bg 2 2
[15:35:00] Beirdo: my fstab entry
[15:35:00] Beirdo: the "nfsvers=3" is very important
[15:35:00] jusk1: hmm.. might be worth taking a look at that
[15:35:00] Beirdo: and the wsize and rsize give better performance than the default window sizes
[15:35:00] jusk1: actually... I wonder what else is fucked up in the box configuration. have to admit I've never dug that deep into it
[15:35:00] Beirdo: heh
[15:36:00] Beirdo: and I regularly push 2–4G files over than NFS mount :)
[15:36:00] confusi0n: i wonder if connecting this dbox direct to this machine using a xover cable would help at all
[15:37:00] jusk1: doubt it
[15:37:00] ** Beirdo yawns **
[15:37:00] Beirdo: stupid mornings
[15:39:00] laga: afternoons suck as well.
[15:39:00] Beirdo: sometimes :)
[15:39:00] jusk1: friday afternoons.. about 4pm.. :)
[15:39:00] laga: hmm, and a cold one
[15:40:00] ** jusk1 makes a note of those NFS parms before he forgets **
[15:40:00] confusi0n: how do i change the ringbuffy retry count entry? where is it in the db?
[15:40:00] GreyFoxx: confusi0n: Running SVN ?
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[15:44:00] confusi0n: GreyFoxx: yeah
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[15:44:00] GreyFoxx: It's configurable
[15:44:00] confusi0n: where abouts greyfox? lol
[15:44:00] GreyFoxx: It's in the source with a default of 4
[15:44:00] confusi0n: forgive my ignorance
[15:45:00] GreyFoxx: err soory, I meant it's NOT configurable
[15:45:00] confusi0n: ah right
[15:45:00] ** confusi0n nods **
[15:45:00] confusi0n: im wondering if i can fix this...
[15:45:00] confusi0n: Invalid file handle when opening /mnt/store//1005_20060112155433.mpg. 6 retries remaining.
[15:45:00] confusi0n: it just keeps happening every now and then (more often than not)
[15:45:00] confusi0n: counts down to zero then quits
[15:45:00] confusi0n: but sometimes, livetv works fine
[15:45:00] jusk1: probably cos it's waiting for the stream to start
[15:46:00] jusk1: but if it's working for people with non-Uk images, you know where to point the finger ;)
[15:46:00] confusi0n: grr
[15:46:00] confusi0n: s'working fine now
[15:46:00] confusi0n: its like a lottery
[15:47:00] jusk1: like a DBOX of chocolates.. you never know what yer gonna get
[15:48:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[15:49:00] adante: record forrest record
[15:50:00] confusi0n: i need a capture card
[15:50:00] confusi0n: desperately
[15:50:00] confusi0n: lol
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[15:58:00] confusi0n: still running your dbox on your capture card successfully juski?
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[16:05:00] Merlin83b: Oh daer, I've joined the dark side.
[16:05:00] Merlin83b: svn is checking out Myth right now.
[16:05:00] laga: MCE?
[16:06:00] laga: oh, ok
[16:09:00] GreyFoxx: The only way 0.19 is gonna be tested is if people run SVN
[16:09:00] Merlin83b: Happy to help, but last time I started using the bleeding edge version of something I couldn't resist fixing things and submitting the occasional patch.
[16:09:00] Merlin83b: And I really don't have time at the moment to be doing that.
[16:10:00] GreyFoxx: Merlin83b: Patches are of course welcome :)
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[16:11:00] Merlin83b: I'll bet, but try not to get your expectations up :-)
[16:11:00] Merlin83b: I will most likely start criticising :-)
[16:12:00] ** GreyFoxx points Merlin to the Complaint Dept **
[16:12:00] GreyFoxx: :)
[16:13:00] confusi0n: wonder if i could get yadi working in the uk
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[16:15:00] ** ivor laughs loudly at the hand gesture GreyFoxx used to point out the complains department. **
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[16:20:00] adante: oh goodness gracious
[16:20:00] adante: i built the wrong version
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[16:23:00] Beirdo: hehe
[16:23:00] Beirdo: oops
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[16:25:00] jusk1: confusi0n: I haven't rolled it out as such.. there was the small matter of inserting the channel names into the DB to sort out ;)
[16:26:00] jusk1: should be in production just as soon as I've added the PVR150 to the backend I actually use
[16:26:00] jusk1: but whenever I try it on my 'bongo box, all is well.. changy channels til the cows come home & it's happy as a pig in sh1t3
[16:28:00] jusk1: I had a choice: insert 200 odd channels into the DB myself, or make a script... script took longer to make but only need to write it once ;)
[16:28:00] Beirdo: maybe you should stop disparaging the distro that works for ya :)
[16:29:00] jusk1: Beirdo: it's a term of endearment ;)
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[16:29:00] Beirdo: heh, if you say so
[16:29:00] confusi0n: i know its off topic
[16:29:00] Beirdo: breezy impressed me last night
[16:29:00] confusi0n: but think i could get evocamd running in yadi?
[16:29:00] jusk1: if I was disparaging.. it's be.. "that fucking PoS load of bollocks umbongo"
[16:30:00] Beirdo: SATA support for SMART works
[16:30:00] jusk1: off-topic & bannable, prolly
[16:30:00] confusi0n: ah
[16:30:00] ** confusi0n keeps his mouth shut **
[16:30:00] jusk1: too late for the log
[16:31:00] jusk1: ask in #tuxbox... see how long it takes to get kicked ;)
[16:31:00] confusi0n: lol
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[16:34:00] jusk1: kwawfee time I reckon
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[16:34:00] laga: jusk1: phpBB can do word censoring. we should replace s*ftc*m with garden gnome automagically ;)
[16:36:00] ivor: laga: supersoft cream ?
[16:36:00] jusk1: heheh
[16:37:00] jusk1: can we censor "will this hardware work?" as well?
[16:37:00] jusk1: and "please help – knoppmyth not worky"
[16:38:00] ivor: ooh good one.
[16:38:00] ivor: oh OT... can anyone speak german?
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[16:38:00] ivor: properly
[16:38:00] jusk1: ivor: there's a German mythtv channel apparently
[16:39:00] ivor: ah but do they speak english? :D
[16:39:00] jusk1: probably better than I do
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[16:40:00] ivor: yeah I can do Commando comic German, but that's probably not good enough.
[16:40:00] jusk1: lol
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[16:42:00] jusk1: Commando.. I remember that... Warlord was the other one. they don't make em like that anymore
[16:42:00] ** jusk1 still wonders is people scream "AiiiiiiiEEEEEEE!" when they get shot **
[16:42:00] jusk1: *if
[16:43:00] Beirdo: only if driving a Kia Sportage
[16:43:00] jusk1: lol
[16:44:00] Beirdo: those commercials are SO annoying
[16:45:00] ** ivor needs to start looking for a new job. **
[16:45:00] jusk1: nah.. Jamster/Jamba commercials are the epitome of annoyance
[16:45:00] Beirdo: one where you get paid to sleep would be supreme
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[16:45:00] ivor: Beirdo: oh that would be perfect.
[16:46:00] ivor: where do I sign up?
[16:46:00] Beirdo: I dunno. :)
[16:47:00] jusk1: become a politician. that's the answer
[16:47:00] ivor: hmm, don't think I'd be able to stomach the deceit
[16:48:00] jusk1: saw my wife's cousin on TV the other day talking about that pisshead dude resigning (forgotten his name already)
[16:49:00] Merlin83b: Charles Kennedy
[16:49:00] jusk1: that's the fella
[16:50:00] jusk1: he got found out for lying, so he resigned. why can';t Blair do that?
[16:50:00] Beirdo: because GWB won't
[16:54:00] jusk1: figures, I suppose
[16:55:00] jusk1: and now.. it's time for homeski
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[16:56:00] ivor: bah. only 5pm here.
[16:56:00] Beirdo: noon here
[16:57:00] Merlin83b: 5pm for Juski too :-)
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[16:58:00] ivor: tsch.
[16:58:00] ivor: slacker.
[16:58:00] Merlin83b: Probably started at silly o'clock this morning.
[16:59:00] Beirdo: hah, yah right
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[17:00:00] ivor: as I said... I need a new job. :(
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[17:17:00] confusi0n: sup
[17:19:00] d3ity: hey all
[17:19:00] d3ity: question
[17:19:00] d3ity: got sort of a vertical hold problem, and some horizontal lines showing up on the screen
[17:19:00] d3ity: suggestions on methods to fix aforementioned problems?
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[17:21:00] xris: d3ity: card/connection?
[17:22:00] confusi0n: Juski: ive managed to get the stability of this dbox setup right up
[17:22:00] confusi0n: Juski: installed a neutrino base image with just what i need
[17:22:00] confusi0n: Juski: and it seems to be working ok
[17:22:00] d3ity: xris, hauppage PVR150 using coax input, using nvidia fx5200
[17:22:00] d3ity: composite out on the nvidia fx5200, but i'm referring to my monitor display
[17:22:00] d3ity: but i've definatley got vertical lines all over the place.
[17:23:00] xris: vertical lines... you said vertical hold.
[17:23:00] d3ity: xris, got both
[17:23:00] xris: you connected to a tv or a monitor?
[17:23:00] d3ity: got a little whiteish bar that slowly goes up the screen
[17:23:00] d3ity: xris, both, however i'm referring to my monitor
[17:23:00] d3ity: i figure if i can clean up the picture for the monitor, the TV issues might resolve themselves easier
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[17:29:00] d3ity: xris, any suggestions?
[17:29:00] d3ity: i've also got a few channels that dont come in at all, but i'm not too worried about that for the moment
[17:30:00] confusi0n: heh, spoke too soon
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[17:33:00] d3ity: hrm, it seems like everything but the vertical hold problem is fairly channel specific, i've got some of em that come in crystal clear.
[17:35:00] d3ity: how can i get some more clarity on these channels?
[17:37:00] confusi0n: AFD: Audio Track #1 is A/V stream #0 and has 0 channels in the English language(6647399).
[17:37:00] confusi0n: anyone ever had this/
[17:37:00] confusi0n: just repeated over and over again?
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[17:42:00] gorski: hello?
[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: d3ity: There are finetuning parameters you can use on a per channel basis but I've never used them before. I seem to remember that they can only be configured in the ythtv-setup channeleditor
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[17:43:00] sphing: OT: anyone really good at iptables?
[17:47:00] d3ity: ugh.
[17:47:00] d3ity: GreyFoxx, sounds like a PITA
[17:47:00] d3ity: sphing, right here
[17:47:00] sphing: d3ity: pm?
[17:48:00] Beirdo: am?
[17:48:00] sphing: basically I'm having one box act as a router for 3 networks with one nic
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: d3ity: I agree
[17:49:00] GreyFoxx: Which is why I'm glad I've never had to finetune achannel. Otherwise I might have been tempted to place something in during livetv playback for doing it "live"
[17:49:00] d3ity: sphing, sure
[17:49:00] d3ity: GreyFoxx, meh, ugh
[17:50:00] sphing: d3ity: how?
[17:50:00] sphing: lol
[17:50:00] d3ity: ?
[17:51:00] d3ity: meh, can anyone help me out with mythmusic? it also refuses to compile
[17:51:00] sphing: d3ity: whats the error
[17:52:00] sphing: d3ity: the problem is, iptables doesn't like interface specified as virtual interfaces
[17:52:00] d3ity: sphing, you mean an alias like eth0:1
[17:52:00] d3ity: yeah, Iptables doesnt work on those...
[17:53:00] d3ity: sphing, its all stuff such as cddecoder.h cdaudio.h: No such file...error: cd_init_device undeclared...
[17:54:00] Beirdo: you are missing a header file
[17:54:00] Beirdo: duh
[17:54:00] d3ity: Beirdo, you're kidding? I couldnt tell that at all </sarcasm>, now how might i fix this
[17:56:00] Beirdo: you need to install it, I'm there's a readme to say what package you need, or the documents say
[17:56:00] GreyFoxx: install libcdaudio and it's headers
[17:57:00] d3ity: libcdaudio eh
[17:58:00] GreyFoxx: In fact the configure script looks for that library and cdaudio.h header file before it will let you compile mythmusic
[17:58:00] GreyFoxx: it should have barfed during ./configure
[17:58:00] GreyFoxx: What version are you running ??
[17:58:00] ** Beirdo cues some Eric Clapton & BB King to relax **
[18:02:00] adante: success
[18:02:00] adante: and now.. sleep
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[18:08:00] jonase[1]: is mythtv able to stream live tv?
[18:08:00] jonase[1]: over internet
[18:09:00] GreyFoxx: Sure, if you have enough bandwidth to send it
[18:09:00] GreyFoxx: or use a lowenough vitrate
[18:09:00] GreyFoxx: bitrate
[18:10:00] GreyFoxx: personally I use vlc for that sort of thing
[18:10:00] jonase[1]: do you have a easy howto on that?
[18:10:00] GreyFoxx: Nope
[18:10:00] GreyFoxx: but there is lots of docs on the vlc website
[18:11:00] jonase[1]: i know.. but i cant get it to work :(
[18:12:00] jonase[1]: followed the guide: http://programming.linux.com/howtos/VideoLAN-HOWTO/x1074.shtml
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[18:12:00] sphing: d3ity: any chance you can help me out?
[18:13:00] jonase[1]: the "vls -vv -f vls.cfg" seems to run fine, but how do i connect it? with the standard settings
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: jonase[1]: I've never seen that guide, nor used vls(the old way of doing things), I use vlc (the new way) and have only used the docs on vlc's webpage
[18:15:00] jonase[1]: ok :)
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[18:18:00] Juski: confusi0n: anyone can speak too soon when they've got one of them boxes ;)
[18:19:00] beavis: xris: the 24h hour format only works on the Program Listing page, is it a bug on my side?
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[18:43:00] GreyFoxx: Hahahah
[18:44:00] GreyFoxx: Check out the comment that was just main on trac ticket #1007
[18:44:00] laga: hehe
[18:44:00] laga: i was going to ask you if you were laughing because you had seen that ;)
[18:44:00] laga: he's so gonna die
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[18:44:00] kormoc: laga, ooh? why's that?
[18:45:00] laga: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1007
[18:45:00] xris: beavis: huh?
[18:46:00] Beirdo: I sense an asswhooping about to occur :)
[18:46:00] GreyFoxx: That's someone who needs a good smack :)
[18:47:00] ** laga stars this thread in his gmail **
[18:47:00] beavis: xris: it displays the time in 12h format everywhere else
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[18:51:00] xris: beavis: mythweb settings had like 6 different time config strings
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[18:52:00] FriedBob: G'afternoon
[18:52:00] Chutt: 192.41.88.6 – - [12/Jan/2006:18:28:15 +0000] "POST /trac/ticket/1007 HTTP/1.1" 302 14 "http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1007" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050925 Firefox/1.0.4 (Debian package 1.0.4–2sarge5)"
[18:52:00] kormoc: G'mornin
[18:53:00] Chutt: ijr@Alkaid:~$ nslookup 192.41.88.6
[18:53:00] Chutt: 6.88.41.192.in-addr.arpa name = gw.vintela.com.
[18:53:00] Chutt: /who *gw.vintela.com
[18:53:00] Chutt: #openwbem n=dan gw.vintela.com irc.freenode.net dnuffer H :0 Dan Nuffer
[18:53:00] Chutt: ie, dnuffer's the moron
[18:54:00] Chutt: unless there's lots of people using that same proxy/gw.
[18:54:00] Beirdo: heheh
[18:54:00] GreyFoxx: hehe
[18:54:00] Beirdo: someone forgot that stuff on the internet is traceable :)
[18:54:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[18:55:00] beavis: xris: oh, so changing the hour format doesn't apply to all the settings :(
[18:56:00] xris: those other ones refer to specific locations...
[18:57:00] adante: anybody using svn able to get to the program details window? i get a 'could not load progdetails for theme".'. tried changing themes and get the same thing
[18:58:00] Chutt: xris, is there still no web-based user admin stuff for trac?
[19:00:00] xris: Chutt: haven't looked in ages.. probably still stuck in that other branch, though
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[19:04:00] adante: xris: it was suggested i bug you about the MYTH_PROTO_VERSION in mythweb (it's 22, while myth is currently 23)
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[19:06:00] adante: kormoc: re our discussion about svn earlier, one good reason to not use the pre8554 ebuild is it doesn't let you save recording details :s
[19:07:00] Chutt: hrm
[19:07:00] Chutt: there's an accountmanager plugin.
[19:07:00] GreyFoxx: Gonna lock down trac?
[19:07:00] Chutt: already did.
[19:07:00] GreyFoxx: after 1007's comment ?
[19:07:00] Beirdo: :)
[19:07:00] Chutt: yup
[19:07:00] GreyFoxx: Heh
[19:08:00] GreyFoxx: It is a little insane
[19:08:00] Chutt: if i can't get this user creation stuff working, i'll reenable it later today
[19:08:00] Beirdo: way to go, butthead :) now people have to be more responsible because of your stupidity
[19:08:00] Beirdo: gotta love "users" like that
[19:08:00] laga: will we still be able to file bug reports?
[19:08:00] Chutt: at the moment, no.
[19:08:00] beavis: xris: what do you think about displaying the default RecordOverTime value in the "End late" field?
[19:09:00] GreyFoxx: laga: It will require a trac account which I think is what he is looking into now
[19:09:00] laga: oh, nice. works for me.
[19:09:00] laga: :)
[19:09:00] Chutt: hrm
[19:09:00] Chutt: this doesn't verify email addresses
[19:09:00] ** GreyFoxx needs to setup subversion/trac for some of his own projects **
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[19:11:00] Chutt: ah, screw it, i have real work to do
[19:12:00] kormoc: adante, it seems to work fine for myself
[19:12:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[19:12:00] Beirdo: Captain_Murdoch: you about?
[19:13:00] Beirdo: #1009: the issue is that the & in the URL will be misinterpreted also at the webserver at the other end, hence the %26
[19:15:00] Beirdo: HTTP escape that character, and voila, you can get that jpg (just tried it)
[19:17:00] GreyFoxx: QUrl::encode(string) should do it
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[19:18:00] Beirdo: but with trac wisely locked down, I can't add the comment :)
[19:22:00] jonase[1]: how do i delete channels?
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[19:23:00] sputnik: anybody know what build options qt3-embedded needs for mythtv to build with directfb?
[19:23:00] jonase[1]: i added them with fillmythdatabase
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[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: jono: mythtv-setup, in the Channel-Editor
[19:30:00] Krazylegz: Heh. I just noticed that MythMusic has "Smart Playlists".
[19:31:00] xris: beavis: different kind of information
[19:31:00] xris: record over and end late do completely different things
[19:33:00] beavis: xris: but there's a default End late setting, don't know how it's called in the db
[19:33:00] xris: beavis: if you can get me the field, I'll add it in
[19:35:00] Juski: mmmmm peshwari naan :-)
[19:36:00] laga: sputnik: have you searched the ML yet?
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[19:39:00] Juski: laga: how's the script?
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[19:39:00] Juski: very tempted to get ivtv setup on my backend & shove that new card in
[19:39:00] ** Juski goes to look at upcoming recordings **
[19:41:00] Juski: oo.. nothing until tomorrow night...
[19:42:00] laga: Juski: haven't tried it yet, still busy with school stuff. blah.
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[19:43:00] Juski: heh. no probs.. I'm sure it'll be fine. wouldn't have handed it out otherwise
[19:43:00] laga: hehe :)
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[19:44:00] Juski: _willcooke_: http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/output.txt :)
[19:45:00] beavis: xris: hmm both fields ("End Late" in mythweb and "Time to record past end of show" in the FE) use the same translation string in German, do they really mean different things?
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[19:45:00] _willcooke_: Juski, Hehe! That didnt take long!
[19:45:00] Coume: evening all
[19:46:00] _willcooke_: Juski, wouldn't you be better off with an "UPDATE", just in case it's already in there?
[19:46:00] Juski: _willcooke_; I got stuck on it last night, but woke very early this morning
[19:46:00] Juski: _willcooke_: don't think so.. it makes new chanids
[19:46:00] Juski: hiya Coume. how goes it?
[19:46:00] _willcooke_: Juski, Oh, ok. Why is more4 on channel 5?
[19:46:00] _willcooke_: :)
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[19:47:00] Juski: _willcooke_: I think it's to do with how the box arranges its channel bouquets
[19:47:00] Juski: we all record programmes, not channels  – at least in this house anyway
[19:47:00] _willcooke_: ahh, this isn't dvb-t is it?
[19:48:00] Juski: no, it's a law unto itself
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[19:48:00] ** _willcooke_ gets confused if when he presses 1 he doesnt get BBC1 **
[19:48:00] xris: beavis: depends on what they are.
[19:48:00] Coume: quite well Juski, u?
[19:49:00] xris: there are two settings.. one used to be called postroll, which is the db field you mentioned earlier. that's an optional X seconds to record past the end of a show, but is only recorded if there are no conflicts, and does not create a conflict.
[19:49:00] beavis: ok
[19:49:00] xris: the "end late" that's attached to each recording schedule actually extends the length of the recorded show by X minutes, and *will* create conflicts.
[19:50:00] beavis: so does "end late" extend the actual time + the postroll?
[19:50:00] Juski: yeh Coume.. very well thanks
[19:50:00] Juski: just about set to compile ivtv on my gentoo box
[19:50:00] xris: beavis: I think so
[19:51:00] Coume: I'm trying to find out if my TV-card or TV out is dead... tricky to check with only a TV around :(
[19:51:00] _willcooke_: mmm, mythfilldatabase doesnt like being run suid
[19:52:00] beavis: xris: hmm so if my postroll is set to 5min (300sec) and I want to set the end late to 1min should be "End Late" set to -4?
[19:54:00] xris: no clue
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[19:55:00] xris: haven't messed with it that much
[19:55:00] xris: maybe end late overrides postroll
[19:55:00] xris: would make sense to me that it would, but I don't know for sure.
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[19:57:00] beavis: heh#
[19:58:00] Chutt: think of end late adjusting the program data
[19:59:00] Chutt: it changes when the program _will_ end.
[19:59:00] Chutt: postroll is on top of that, can only add time, not subtract it, and _may_ be recorded or not.
[19:59:00] xris: Chutt: thanks for the clarification...
[19:59:00] xris: so they're cumulative
[19:59:00] Chutt: yup
[20:00:00] beavis: ok, so you can't set back to 1min in my case
[20:03:00] Juski: okeee. everything compiled.. loading ivtv seems to work.. time to put the card in
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[20:08:00] Juski: first time this box will have been powered down in more than 6 months...
[20:09:00] Beirdo: YAY
[20:09:00] Beirdo: I borked trac
[20:09:00] Beirdo: hhehe
[20:09:00] Beirdo: I suck
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[20:11:00] sputnik: laga: ML?
[20:11:00] laga: sputnik: mailing list.
[20:11:00] sputnik: ah, mailing list. building with suggestions from ml, but it doesn't look (from the thread) like it will work
[20:12:00] sputnik: guess i'll see in an hour or so
[20:12:00] laga: hehe
[20:12:00] Beirdo: there, fixed
[20:12:00] Beirdo: it was a perms issue
[20:13:00] sputnik: if i get it to work, would the mythtv gods be interested in a writeup?
[20:13:00] laga: sputnik: yes.
[20:13:00] sputnik: this is debian on an xbox without X11
[20:13:00] laga: well, i'm not a deity, exactly.
[20:13:00] sputnik: demigod?
[20:13:00] laga: probably. although it's possible that some women will claim different things. just don't listen.
[20:13:00] ** laga hides **
[20:14:00] sputnik: doh. it just errored out
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[20:16:00] sputnik: ok, i can deal with this one.
[20:17:00] Chutt: sputnik, when you're done, wiki.mythtv.org's the place for a writeup
[20:17:00] sputnik: ok.
[20:17:00] Juski: /dev/hda3 has gone 193 days without being checked... shame on me
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[20:17:00] sputnik: i can feel it. i will make it work.
[20:18:00] Chutt: it's easier to just use X, of course :p
[20:18:00] Chutt: and you get better video card support/accel
[20:18:00] sputnik: box has 64 megs of ram :)
[20:18:00] Chutt: doesn't use that much ram
[20:18:00] laga: i haven't had much luck with directfb, actually. but i believe it's related to my matrox g400, this german guy on -dev seems to have similar problems. it would be awesome if he managed to get it to work :)
[20:18:00] sputnik: well, if directfb is too slow, i'll do it again with x11
[20:18:00] Chutt: a graphics heavy theme in mythfrontend uses more
[20:19:00] Juski: hint taken, Chutt ;)
[20:19:00] Coume: what do u think? Is it possible and easy to "kill" a only TV-OUT?
[20:20:00] Juski: hmm.. I've never managed to kill a PC card yet, and I have them lying around the place
[20:21:00] laga: i managed to kill some hardware by soldering, but that's probably off-topic :)
[20:21:00] Coume: yesterday, my flatmate manage to kill the ground floor entire electrical system... which create a big blackout around the house...
[20:21:00] Juski: oh shit. error loading firmware
[20:21:00] laga: Juski: i thought your PVR 150 was working? ;)
[20:22:00] Juski: it was on my ubuntu box
[20:22:00] laga: Juski: www.ivtvdriver.org has some docs regarding the firmware stuff
[20:22:00] laga: Juski: oh, k
[20:22:00] Juski: yeh I know
[20:22:00] Juski: did the command to find out where firmware should live, which on Gentoo is allegedly /etc/hotplug
[20:22:00] Juski: so copied the files into there...
[20:23:00] Juski: be nicer if this error gave the full path of where it was looking
[20:23:00] kormoc: I have my firmware in /lib/modules/, files HcwMakoA.ROM ivtv-fw-dec.bin ivtv-fw-enc.bin ivtv_init_mpeg.bin for ivtv 0.4.0 on gentoo
[20:25:00] Juski: this is 0.4.1 though
[20:33:00] Arkkis: hey, could someone point me towards a good way to convert the .nuv files to windows .avi files, possibly letting me to edit the file on the way a bit (like clipping, and resizing for making it smaller)
[20:33:00] Arkkis: any great tools in linux for this?
[20:34:00] laga: Arkkis: nuvexport?
[20:34:00] Arkkis: sounds promising
[20:35:00] laga: or nuv2avi, but that's probably less 'stable'. ask beirdo.
[20:35:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:35:00] ** laga slaps Beirdo **
[20:35:00] ** Arkkis asks Beirdo **
[20:35:00] ** Beirdo kicks laga **
[20:36:00] Beirdo: nuv2avi (especially the older version) might work if you have MPEG4 files
[20:36:00] Beirdo: I haven't had time to do squat with it
[20:36:00] Arkkis: soo, nuvexport is better?
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[20:36:00] Arkkis: ;)
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[20:36:00] Beirdo: nuvexport should work. nuv2avi if it WORKS for you is faster
[20:37:00] Beirdo: several orders of magnitude faster
[20:37:00] Arkkis: hmm, ok
[20:37:00] Beirdo: it does no recoding, just repackages
[20:37:00] Beirdo: and hence, only worked for MPEG4
[20:37:00] Arkkis: gentoo portage knows nuvexport, so I'll try that
[20:37:00] Beirdo: I was close to getting it working for RTJPEG
[20:37:00] Beirdo: but I ran outta time
[20:43:00] xris: Arkkis: nuvexport is likely more compatible.. and definitely has more output options.
[20:43:00] Arkkis: thanks xris
[20:43:00] xris: if you're doing avi, I suggest you look at the --transcode option (slower, but quality is much better)
[20:44:00] Arkkis: I'm also probably trying cinelerra for editing the clip
[20:44:00] Arkkis: hmm
[20:44:00] xris: Arkkis: nuv file or mpeg file?
[20:44:00] laga: just use mythfrontend :)
[20:44:00] xris: Arkkis: yeah, just use the frontend
[20:45:00] kormoc: Juski, isn't 0.4.1 just all around broken?
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[20:46:00] xris: Arkkis: use the frontend to cut out commercials.. nuvexport can encode around that. if you still want to edit after that, use avidemux on the resulting avi file.. but you shouldn't need it
[20:47:00] xris: --transcode --force_mythtranscode --cutlist are your friends
[20:47:00] xris: I really need to make force_mythtranscode the default.. ivtv makes too many recordings that transcode just can't read
[20:47:00] Juski: hmmm.. got it working...
[20:47:00] Juski: weird though
[20:47:00] Arkkis: I think myth marked the commercials, but I'm not sure, I should prolly dig in deeper the configs to understand how to edit the commercial markings
[20:48:00] xris: Arkkis: watch recording, hit E to edit
[20:48:00] Juski: kormoc: had ivtv 0.4.1 working just fine on my ubuntu box
[20:48:00] Arkkis: ah
[20:48:00] xris: press Z to import the flag list as a cutlist, then adjust that since the flagging isn't 100% accurate
[20:48:00] xris: then E to exit again
[20:48:00] kormoc: Juski, I seem to recall that a few people were saying that due to last minute changes in 2.6.15, it was just borked
[20:48:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[20:48:00] Arkkis: okay, I'll try that
[20:48:00] Arkkis: thx again =)
[20:48:00] xris: Arkkis: you'll get much nicer cuts that way.
[20:49:00] Juski: I'm not running 2.6.15 though
[20:49:00] kormoc: so why use .4.1?
[20:49:00] Juski: didn't see any notes about why I shouldn't use it
[20:50:00] Juski: ivtvdriver page says it's 'stable' .. doesn't say I need a newer kernel.. so I summised it was all good
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[20:50:00] xris: heh
[20:50:00] xris: I'm still using like .3.2 or something
[20:50:00] xris: it works, I don't want to touch it
[20:50:00] Juski: in other words.. why not use 0.4.1 ? ;)
[20:51:00] Juski: right... ivtv added to modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 .. rebooted
[20:51:00] Juski: ugh.. startup sound? never noticed that before lol
[20:52:00] kormoc: Juski, in my experences, .4.1 is just trouble (kernel panics and all), and when I talked to the dev guys, they just told me to wait for .4.2
[20:52:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[20:54:00] Juski: so why do they say it's 'stable' on their website? grrrr
[20:54:00] Juski: I'll give it a go
[20:54:00] Juski: if it panics I'll downgrade it
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[20:56:00] unkle: hi again, i suspect this to be the "wrong" channel for my question (though youll probably be highly capable of giving an informative answer ;)) ...so, – is there an ivtv-channel of some sort ? :) (i cant find the specific info on ivtv.sf)
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[20:58:00] kormoc: unkle, try ivtvdriver.org
[20:59:00] unkle: (the question is about using the HW-decoder on pvr350 via the mplayer... and i guess it falls out of being a mythtv-specific category) :)
[20:59:00] unkle: kormoc, i tried searching for "irc" on their page but no luck
[20:59:00] kormoc: unkle, if you set up the pvr via the x11 driver, you can then do anything in x and have it output correctly
[20:59:00] Juski: for IRC there's #ivtv-dev and maybe #ivtv too.. do a /list
[21:00:00] unkle: Juski, found it ! thanks :)
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[21:02:00] unkle: wauw... 5 people in #ivtv...
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[21:11:00] Juski: heh. working.. just have to add all my channels
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[21:21:00] tpdd: hello all, im sorry if this is answered someplace but i have been working on it for months. Can you play dvd files off your hardrive in mythtv?
[21:21:00] tpdd: full dvd's not just single vob files
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[21:23:00] tpdd: I have had mythtv working and the interface and I would like to use it to access movies i have ripped outside of mythtv (includes menus so i have to use ogle or xine)
[21:26:00] chkno: tpdd: check out the myth plugins MythDVD and MythVideo.
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[21:27:00] tpdd: chkno I have both plugins i just cant get it to play a dvd that has all the individual files in a dir on the hard drive
[21:27:00] tpdd: if i just use xine its fine xine dvd:/path/to/dvd/files but c
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[21:28:00] tpdd: but i cant see where to make mythtv do that instead of just playing the vob files in order of filename
[21:30:00] Arkkis: tpdd, try to get mplayer to play the dvd
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[21:31:00] Arkkis: I think mplayer is the default player for mythtv (I might be wrong)
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[21:33:00] a1fa: 2006-01–12 15:32:24.023 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
[21:33:00] a1fa: what would require SUID?
[21:33:00] a1fa: it doesnt say
[21:33:00] a1fa: ?
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[21:34:00] galorin: I think I've got my tv card (Nova-T) installed, etc. but my transmitter isn't listed in the dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t directory Do I just pick a transmitter and go for it, or s there a better option?
[21:34:00] laga: a1fa: it's in the docs
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[21:36:00] Juski: oh hell.. I've got 250 odd xmltv IDs to put in now
[21:36:00] Juski: how big's that gonna make the database? :)
[21:37:00] a1fa: laga
[21:38:00] a1fa: what section
[21:38:00] Juski: galorin: you can do a complete scan
[21:38:00] a1fa: audio
[21:38:00] a1fa: fine
[21:39:00] Juski: galorin: try using ./scan  – it'll list the parameters you can pass it
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[21:43:00] laga: a1fa: dunno exactly, sorry
[21:44:00] a1fa: yeah dude
[21:44:00] a1fa: i want to try to run uae
[21:44:00] a1fa: on my mythtv
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[21:47:00] chkno: tpdd: Go to Utilities/Setup :: Setup :: Media Settings :: Videos Settings :: Player Settings :: File Types, select Extension = vob and set Command appropiately.
[21:48:00] a1fa: anybody run uae?
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[21:49:00] chkno: I don't have any dvd vob dirs to test with, but consider bash parameter expansion tricks to get the dir name from the vob name: ${vobname%/*}
[21:49:00] chkno: You might have to wrap it in bash -c "...". I don't know if Myth passes that through a shell or just exec()s it.
[21:50:00] immolo: Would someone be able to tell me if an saa7130 lifeview will work with lirc?
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[21:52:00] galorin: Juski, I take it I should be using a CVS build of dvb-apps/utils as opposed to the Ubuntu package?
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[21:53:00] chkno: tpdd: Or something like bash -c "xine dvd:/${1%/*}" -s
[21:54:00] Juski: galorin: you can use either I think
[21:54:00] Juski: chances are the CVS build will have your transmitter
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[21:55:00] galorin: dvb-utils scan from ubuntu sources appears to need a transmitter pased to it
[21:55:00] galorin: I'll keep trying, crap CVS failed to build
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[21:58:00] Juski: galorin: you can get it to scan the whole band.. I'll do a check when I get a sec
[21:58:00] galorin: Juski, ta very much
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[22:08:00] Juski: galorin: seems I was talking outta my arse.. it needs initial tuning data
[22:08:00] Juski: but help is at hand, never fear
[22:08:00] Juski: where do you live? UK?
[22:08:00] ** Beirdo talks out his arse... gotta love beans **
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[22:10:00] Juski: okay galorin: need to know which city you live nearest to, or your postcode..
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[22:17:00] galorin: Juski, postcode is IV32 7LR
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[22:18:00] woloi: hey
[22:18:00] woloi: anyone using SVN mythweb?
[22:18:00] sputnik: yup
[22:18:00] kormoc: yeah
[22:18:00] woloi: what protocol are you using?
[22:18:00] woloi: mine tries to use 22 and i think it shold be 23?
[22:18:00] woloi: or so says mythbackend
[22:19:00] kormoc: you need to change that
[22:19:00] woloi: ok, was that a recent commit that i missed?
[22:19:00] kormoc: the newest svn uped the protocol number without changing it in mythweb
[22:19:00] woloi: ah, ok
[22:19:00] woloi: that's what i thought, do you know how to change it?
[22:19:00] Juski: galorin: what's your ITV region.. sorry bout this
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[22:20:00] kormoc: woloi, in includes/mythbackend.php
[22:20:00] kormoc: woloi, line 24, change that from 22 to 23
[22:21:00] woloi: ok
[22:21:00] galorin: Juski, I suspect it's Grampian. As long as I can get tuned in that's fine by me. I got a couple stations from Angus, but no sound, so far, just video
[22:21:00] woloi: is there anything else?
[22:21:00] woloi: or did the protocol number just change and nothing else relevant to mythweb?
[22:21:00] kormoc: that's right
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[22:21:00] woloi: hmm
[22:21:00] woloi: dang
[22:22:00] woloi: does it work with php5?
[22:22:00] woloi: or does it require php4?
[22:22:00] woloi: i'm getting an error about posix_getpwid() not existing, from line 244 includes/init.php
[22:23:00] Juski: galorin: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/reception_advi . . . gion=14.html
[22:23:00] woloi: err, posix_getpwuid(), missed a u
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[22:25:00] SqWaw: GreyFoxx, ready to tackle that problemo?
[22:26:00] galorin: Juski, I reckon Knockmore is the one I'm after, so I just need to create a file in the right place with the info from that page?
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[22:27:00] Juski: I'm afraid it's not quite that simple...
[22:27:00] galorin: Just my luck.
[22:27:00] Juski: ahh but
[22:28:00] ** galorin cracks knuckles and gets ready for some typing on his wireless laptop-sized keyboard **
[22:28:00] galorin: Can't decide if I like this thing or not. Only been using it for the past 2 hours or so.
[22:29:00] Juski: galorin: see this page: it'll help
[22:29:00] Juski: http://www.mythbox.co.uk/uk_dvb.htm
[22:29:00] Juski: you're looking for DVB info, yes?
[22:29:00] Juski: as in Freeview?
[22:30:00] galorin: Yeah, freeview stuff
[22:30:00] Juski: cool
[22:30:00] Juski: so I'm not going off on a tangent then ;)
[22:31:00] galorin: Should have told you I was trying to tune into a sattelite transmission then.
[22:31:00] galorin: ;-)
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[22:33:00] SqWaw: Can anyone help me? updating channel icons-wise.
[22:33:00] Juski: galorin: kidding?
[22:34:00] galorin: yep. kidding
[22:34:00] SqWaw: mythfilldatabase --import-icon-map iconmap.xml --update-icon-map doesn't grab any icons
[22:34:00] SqWaw: it just runs mythfilldatabase... and stops
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[22:37:00] galorin: trying according to that page Juski
[22:38:00] galorin: rats, 0 services
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[22:45:00] Arkkis: xris, umm, I finally got it installed, I'm sorry for being such a newbie, but how do I use the nuvexport?
[22:46:00] Arkkis: or anyone really, how can I use nuvexport with mythtv?
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[22:51:00] chkno: Arkkis: Just run it (from a terminal).
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[22:52:00] Arkkis: oh, I tought I should have used the frontend somehow
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[22:59:00] Juski: this is gonna be one _long_ mythfilldatabase
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[23:01:00] Juski: SqWaw: some mythfilldatabase scripts don't do icons
[23:01:00] SqWaw: ummm
[23:01:00] SqWaw: that should though, shouldn't it?
[23:01:00] Arkkis: Hey, mythtv recodings have very low audio volume, is there a way to boost it on recordings?
[23:01:00] Juski: Arkiss: depends on what tuner you use
[23:02:00] Arkkis: (so that I would not have to get freaked out every time I have watched a recoding at night and turn on my mp3 player)
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[23:02:00] Arkkis: Juski, analog hauppauge nicam stereo one
[23:02:00] Juski: PVR card or framegrabber?
[23:02:00] Arkkis: I think it should be possible to get it route the audio signal trouch pci, but so far I've only got the external cable thing working
[23:02:00] Juski: ah right
[23:02:00] Juski: you can change it in a settings page somewhere
[23:03:00] Juski: might be in mythtv-setup
[23:03:00] Arkkis: the audio-cable thing?
[23:03:00] Arkkis: any idea what it should be named?
[23:03:00] Juski: it'll be set to use your soundcard to do the recordings yeah?
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[23:03:00] Arkkis: umm, yep
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[23:03:00] Arkkis: I think so
[23:04:00] Juski: there's a volume slider somewhere.. maybe it's in capture card settings
[23:04:00] Arkkis: hmm, there was a volume slider, but I janked it up to 100%
[23:04:00] Juski: thing is you dont wanna set it too high, or audio on some recordings might be distorted
[23:04:00] Arkkis: but still I have to go to like 25/30 on my volume when mp3 are around 10
[23:05:00] Juski: another thing to add to mythmusic then.. default volume setting
[23:05:00] Arkkis: (on my amplifyer)
[23:05:00] Juski: turn the mythmusic vol down
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[23:05:00] Juski: the [ and ] keys I think
[23:05:00] Arkkis: well, I use the same computer for other stuff than myth too
[23:05:00] Arkkis: so..
[23:05:00] Juski: probably remembers the last setting
[23:05:00] Juski: well then – without processing your recordings.. not much you can do
[23:06:00] Juski: fault of the broadcasters & your TV card unfortunately
[23:06:00] Arkkis: well, I do not care about the old recordings atm (only have two)
[23:06:00] Arkkis: so, there's no way to set the recording to loop trough somesort of boost?
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[23:06:00] Juski: no
[23:06:00] Arkkis: darn
[23:07:00] Juski: be cool to have some DSP functions in mythtv though
[23:07:00] Juski: output compressor or something
[23:07:00] Arkkis: one thing that's really annoying here too is that one of my channels has even lower volume than others (in my telly too)
[23:08:00] Juski: bet the commercials are louder though ;)
[23:08:00] Arkkis: yep
[23:08:00] Juski: its the same with UK TV too
[23:09:00] Juski: my amp has a 'night' mode which can pretty much level things out
[23:09:00] Arkkis: would be nice to have that dsp function alright, when commercials are detected, tune volume down, option to adjust volume on channel basis and ofcourse the boost for my scenario
[23:10:00] Juski: I think it's one of the things JACK is capable of
[23:10:00] Juski: not sure though
[23:10:00] Arkkis: anyways looks like nuvexport will not help, as I did not get it to work
[23:10:00] Juski: wouldn't know how to go about configuring that
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[23:11:00] Arkkis: http://arkkimaagi.pastebin.com/503205
[23:11:00] Arkkis: that's the problem I have
[23:12:00] Arkkis: and I'm wondering what should I try to do to get that sorted out
[23:12:00] Juski: looks like a missing library
[23:12:00] Arkkis: looks like one, but how to figure out what
[23:12:00] Juski: like PERL::mysql
[23:12:00] Arkkis: I'm running gentoo
[23:12:00] Arkkis: hmm
[23:14:00] Juski: try
[23:14:00] Juski: emerge -s mysql | grep PERL
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[23:15:00] Juski: ha
[23:15:00] Juski: or emerge -s mysql |grep perl
[23:16:00] Juski: I suspect it'll be dev-perl/Class-DBI-mysql
[23:16:00] Arkkis: not msql-mysql-modules ?
[23:17:00] Juski: emerge mythvideo.. that should grab some stuff
[23:17:00] Juski: they use a few PERL modules..
[23:17:00] Arkkis: I have that emerged
[23:18:00] Juski: ahhh
[23:18:00] Juski: maybe emerge DBI
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[23:18:00] Juski: try it with the --pretend option first though
[23:18:00] immolo: why not emerge -ep mythtv
[23:19:00] immolo: it will show you all the dependices for myth
[23:19:00] Juski: yeah but not for nuvexport
[23:19:00] Juski: Arkkis: there's an ebuild for nuvexport
[23:19:00] immolo: i thought that comes from mplayer
[23:19:00] Juski: grab that & you should have all the dependencies
[23:20:00] Juski: then you can still compile from source
[23:20:00] Arkkis: Juski, I used the ebuild for nuvexport and here I am
[23:20:00] Juski: heh
[23:20:00] Wibble-: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.4 talks about display sizes for a 4:3 resolution. I have a widescreen TV, can I just multiply up the width to get the resolution I should run at? (or should I run at the 4:3 resolution?)
[23:20:00] Juski: typical
[23:20:00] Juski: Wibble: you can do all sorts
[23:21:00] Juski: I run my TV out at 720x576 for my 16:9 TV, but I have DISPLAYSIZE set in xorg.conf
[23:22:00] Wibble-: hmmm, k – thats a 4:3 aspect ratio isn't it – ok
[23:22:00] Juski: Wibble yeah, but my DISPLAYSIZE is set for a 16:9 ratio
[23:23:00] Juski: not many TV outs will support 16:9 ratios
[23:23:00] Juski: theme graphics still look a little wrong on my TV but recordings , videos & DVD look fabulous
[23:24:00] Wibble-: oh, that might answer it for me
[23:24:00] Wibble-: I've got an old nvidia card ;)
[23:24:00] Juski: Arkiss: try doing emerge -p /dev-perl/DBI for me
[23:24:00] Juski: oops
[23:24:00] Juski: try emerge -p dev-perl/DBI
[23:25:00] Juski: and emerge -p dev-perl/DBD-mysql
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[23:25:00] Juski: looking at the ebuild now ;)
[23:26:00] Arkkis: Juski, DBD-perl was masked with ~x86, adding that to keywords and then updating it, helped
[23:26:00] Juski: aha
[23:28:00] Cromz: Juski, what is your displaysize set to in your x config?
[23:28:00] Arkkis: or was it DBD-mysql, anyhow, now it's doing the job
[23:28:00] Juski: Cromz: I'll find out
[23:28:00] Juski: 400 225
[23:29:00] Cromz: hmm
[23:29:00] Cromz: ok
[23:29:00] Cromz: thanks
[23:29:00] Cromz: mine is 433 270 looks funny though.
[23:30:00] Cromz: displaying on a lcd :P
[23:30:00] Juski: you using TV out or VGA
[23:30:00] Cromz: vga
[23:30:00] Juski: cos you _should_ use VGA if you can on LCDs.. looks best
[23:30:00] Juski: and use it at its native resolution...
[23:31:00] Juski: so if it's 16:9, use a 16:9 resolution
[23:31:00] Juski: you might have to google to find a modeline to suit it
[23:31:00] Cromz: already did.. that's where I got the numbers :>
[23:32:00] Cromz: I'll fiddle more. oh I found the problem with my gigabyte mobo locking up. was the onboard audio with lan traffic. my wife put in a sblive and no more lockups. ;)
[23:34:00] grantm: Your wife did? I wish my wife could install hardware for me :/
[23:35:00] Cromz: ya.. she loves linux.. I got her to intall it on a old system. now she has it on her notebook and got wireless working with ndiswrapper by herself. that impressed me.
[23:36:00] Arkkis: heh, scary
[23:36:00] Arkkis: what distro?
[23:36:00] Cromz: fedora
[23:36:00] Cromz: core 3
[23:37:00] Cromz: she found out that she needed a differant kernel the 16bit stacks or something and found install that. then got the wireless to work.
[23:38:00] Arkkis: she could come and teach me some too
[23:39:00] Cromz: lol
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[23:43:00] Juski: hmm... in the next 14 days I have 27,567 programs to choose from... dammit
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[23:49:00] Wibble-: Juski: any clues why I might only be able to get B&W out of my TV out? :/ There aren't any clues in the Xorg.0.log – it seems to suggest its fine
[23:49:00] Chutt: bad cable
[23:49:00] Chutt: bad connector
[23:49:00] Chutt: wrong tv standard selected
[23:49:00] Juski: wrong output type selected
[23:49:00] Kabutor: Wibble-, Your choose PAL and you live in USA or the other way
[23:50:00] Juski: some drivers default to svideo out.. so if you're using composite.. you need to put a setting in xorg.conf
[23:50:00] Wibble-: I live in the UK and I chose PAL-I (which seems to be right according to the nvidia docs)
[23:50:00] Juski: see the nvidia tv-out readme file
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[23:51:00] Wibble-: ok – thanks
[23:52:00] dagfinnr: hello, ive just came home from a trip, and the power has been down, so the pc was turned off, when i turn it on again it seems that the ivtv/capture card stuff iisnt loaded ..but lspci shows that the card is found (pvr150), when i try to /sbin/modprobe ivtv i get that module is not found..how can i fix this?
[23:52:00] Juski: erm.. modprobe ivtv
[23:52:00] Juski: using xfs by any chance?
[23:53:00] dagfinnr: whats xfs?
[23:53:00] dagfinnr: modprobe ivtv says that the module cannot be found..
[23:53:00] Juski: might be time to reinstall some stuff then
[23:53:00] dagfinnr: the modprobe.conf is unchanges since last working setup ..(before i want on the trip)
[23:53:00] dagfinnr: hmm..what should i reinstall?
[23:53:00] Juski: seems your system needs a UPS
[23:54:00] dagfinnr: yeah
[23:54:00] Juski: ivtv for a start, but I'd be tempted to redo the lot
[23:54:00] dagfinnr: hm
[23:54:00] dagfinnr: is there any way to get yum to reinstall?
[23:55:00] Juski: no idea..
[23:55:00] dagfinnr: i though you knew everything :P
[23:55:00] Juski: lol
[23:56:00] dagfinnr: ;)
[23:56:00] Juski: I know a little about lots of things
[23:58:00] sputnik: ok, heres an odd question
[23:58:00] sputnik: when i run mythfrontend (build against qt3 embedded)
[23:58:00] sputnik: it complains that it can't find libqt-mt.so.3
[23:59:00] sputnik: symlinked libqt-mt.so.3 to libqte-mt (which exists), and ran ldconfig
[23:59:00] sputnik: it still can't find it.
[23:59:00] sputnik: unless i run it in the qt3 lib directory, then it works
[23:59:00] sputnik: thoughts?

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