| Tuesday, January 10th, 2006, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [00:00:00] | d3ity: | could be a bad cable connection...not sure. |
| [00:00:00] | Balders: | I gave up on winmyth a few months ago, but what ever was current then (probably still current now) claimed to be in sync with backend 0.18 |
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | yeh could be |
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| [00:00:00] | ** Juski gave up on winmyth the 2nd time it crashed the backend & locked his machine ** | |
| [00:01:00] | d3ity: | Juski, ever used gatos? |
| [00:01:00] | d3ity: | anyone else happen to use gatos? |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | maybe if the winmyth developers read the source of mythtv instead of reverse engineering the protocol.... |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | d3ity: apparently gatos is now included in X.Org |
| [00:02:00] | riddlebox: | hrmm I may be on to something, in Set Priorities it does see it but it is labeled to not record |
| [00:02:00] | d3ity: | Juski, Whats this stream-type option in the menu you sent me to |
| [00:02:00] | Juski: | d3ity: have a look on the net for how to set up your video card on Slack |
| [00:02:00] | Juski: | d3ity: stream-type? |
| [00:02:00] | EricL: | Does anyone know where to get the debs for MythTV for Debian sarge? |
| [00:02:00] | d3ity: | Juski, yeah, under MPEG-2 Encoders |
| [00:03:00] | d3ity: | right after you set the resolution |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | what is it now? |
| [00:03:00] | d3ity: | MPEG-2 PS |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | thats right |
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| [00:03:00] | d3ity: | might there be a way to modify it to get smoother framerates? |
| [00:03:00] | ** Juski powers up the spare box his PVR150 is in ** | |
| [00:04:00] | Guyfromhe: | my prv-150 has smooth framerates |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | so does mine |
| [00:04:00] | d3ity: | Guyfromhe, yeah, but it has no output |
| [00:04:00] | d3ity: | the output would be the video card. |
| [00:05:00] | Guyfromhe: | the output is my pvr350 |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | d3ity: when you configured X, how did you do it? follow any guide? |
| [00:05:00] | d3ity: | Guyfromhe, aren't you special |
| [00:05:00] | d3ity: | Juski, xorgcfg. Just let it autodetect after installing the tv_output gatos drivers |
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| [00:05:00] | d3ity: | perhaps i should use xorgconf and try it through that |
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| [00:07:00] | Juski: | yeh maybe |
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| [00:09:00] | defII: | Im not getting any picture when I do the dd test for the 350, any suggestions? |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | nope |
| [00:09:00] | defII: | Am I supposed to see it in the console? |
| [00:10:00] | Guyfromhe: | defII: in or out? |
| [00:10:00] | defII: | Guyfromhe, hmm... |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | defII, no, you dd it to a file and then view it via mplayer |
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| [00:10:00] | defII: | kormoc, ohh |
| [00:11:00] | d3ity: | ok, running xorgconfig broke my TV-out |
| [00:11:00] | defII: | so at the end of th dd if=.......... > filename ? |
| [00:11:00] | d3ity: | perhaps i shall delve deeper and reenable it |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | defII, yes |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | defII, no |
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| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | defII, sorry, if you were cat /dev/blah you would pipe it to a file |
| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | defII, the dd command is dd if=blah of=bleh, if is Input File, of is Output File, so no direction needed |
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| [00:12:00] | defII: | kormoc, how do you watch it then, terminal? |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | defII, you don't via a terminal, you have to watch it via mplayer or xine or similar |
| [00:13:00] | defII: | kormoc, ok so I run the dd test and then open /dev/... in mplayer? |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | no... |
| [00:13:00] | defII: | kormoc, lol |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | you open the of=bleh in mplayer |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | copy and paste the full dd line |
| [00:14:00] | defII: | dd if=/dev/video of=/dev/video16 bs=64k |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | so then you are outputing it to the video out, do you have a tv hooked up via the tv out? |
| [00:15:00] | defII: | kormoc, no |
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| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | defII, so why are you testing the tvout if you can't view it? |
| [00:16:00] | defII: | kormoc, kinda didn't know what I was doing (I hate honesty) |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff, and that would by why it was doing nothing |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | to test to see if it at least has input |
| [00:17:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | do this |
| [00:17:00] | defII: | I was doing cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg |
| [00:17:00] | defII: | and everything is fine? |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [00:17:00] | defII: | and everything is fine |
| [00:17:00] | defII: | no question mark |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | then it's all good |
| [00:18:00] | defII: | blank screen when I switch to live tv |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | but the file.mpg displays correctly? |
| [00:18:00] | defII: | yes |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | mythtv-settings, capture-cards is setup correctly? hardware mpeg card and so on? |
| [00:19:00] | defII: | yes |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | what does the backend's logs say? |
| [00:19:00] | defII: | I'm watching the backend and it just says switching to live tv |
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| [00:20:00] | kormoc: | you sure you have it set to use the right input off of the card? |
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| [00:20:00] | defII: | in setup > tvsettings > playback I have the hardware decoder checked and set to video16 |
| [00:20:00] | kormoc: | that would be outputing to an external tv then |
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| [00:20:00] | defII: | which is what ivtv says is the location of my decoder |
| [00:21:00] | kormoc: | the 350 only decodes to the tvout |
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| [00:21:00] | defII: | hmm |
| [00:21:00] | defII: | so I have to hook a tv to the output? |
| [00:21:00] | kormoc: | if you want the hardware decoder, yes |
| [00:21:00] | Juski: | shit. just realised something about this dvb radio patch... it means that all the radio programmes end up in the programme guide... which can be a bit erm... confusing... maybe we'll then need a way to demarcate TV&Radio channels |
| [00:22:00] | defII: | kormoc, soo If im using my video card as tvout then I dont get hardware decoding? |
| [00:22:00] | defII: | hmm |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | defII, your videocard might be doing hardware decoding (if it's an nvidia card) |
| [00:23:00] | defII: | ati |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | then yes, no hardware decoding |
| [00:23:00] | Juski: | definitely not doing any decoding then |
| [00:23:00] | defII: | wait the reason I got this was for the hardware encoder.. |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | now, the 350's tvout is a full videocard |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | not ment for games, but works fine for videos |
| [00:23:00] | Guyfromhe: | the 150 is a hardware encoder only |
| [00:24:00] | defII: | hmm |
| [00:24:00] | kormoc: | Guyfromhe, which would be why we're talking bout the 350 |
| [00:25:00] | defII: | kormoc, lol thx |
| [00:25:00] | defII: | I was all screwed up |
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| [00:25:00] | defII: | the encoder is what I care about not the decoder |
| [00:25:00] | kormoc: | then yeah, you really should have picked up a 150 or a 500 |
| [00:26:00] | defII: | kormoc, ohh yeah i disabled the tv-out and magically got tv |
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| [00:26:00] | defII: | kormoc, ill probobly replace it with a 500 |
| [00:26:00] | Guyfromhe: | thats what I was saying |
| [00:26:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [00:26:00] | defII: | that way i get 2 tuners |
| [00:26:00] | kormoc: | tho, if you are actually using your ati card for tvout, just switch the tv out to the 350, it's nicer overall imho |
| [00:27:00] | defII: | damnit I should have read things better |
| [00:27:00] | Guyfromhe: | it really is |
| [00:27:00] | Guyfromhe: | unl;ess your using hd out or something |
| [00:27:00] | Guyfromhe: | use the 350 |
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| [00:27:00] | defII: | kormoc, yeah but I got it going to an hdmi input |
| [00:27:00] | kormoc: | hdtv doesn't work with ati cards iirc |
| [00:27:00] | defII: | its a 9800pro |
| [00:27:00] | defII: | not some rinky dink card |
| [00:27:00] | kormoc: | something about a rendering bug with large res mpeg-2 files |
| [00:28:00] | Guyfromhe: | plus it's not gunna be much better if your capping a SD source anyway |
| [00:28:00] | defII: | kormoc, running it a 1920x540 |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | defII, yeah, but it has some really runky dink linux drivers that make the card mostly useless |
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| [00:28:00] | Guyfromhe: | unless your using it for something else |
| [00:28:00] | defII: | kormoc, well... that actually are getting better |
| [00:28:00] | defII: | kormoc, I'll agree with you though |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | compaired to others out there, they are lightyears behind and only gonna keep falling back |
| [00:29:00] | defII: | I was gonna get an nvidia card to rplace this one but I did'nt want to spend alot |
| [00:29:00] | defII: | plus it has to be able to push WoW on my bigscreen without a glitch |
| [00:29:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [00:30:00] | Juski: | defII: yeah but it wasn't HD |
| [00:30:00] | kyu_flux_: | does anyone here know if you can use a digital tuner card with comcast + myth? |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | my 5200 could do that, and I paid $40 for it. |
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| [00:30:00] | defII: | kormoc, you think? |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | kyu_flux, only if you can deencrypt the signal |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | defII, it's pushing 1024x1536 just fine |
| [00:31:00] | kyu_flux_: | kormoc: that was part of my question (implicit) – Comcast doesn't encrypt their OTA HD channels, but do they encrypt their digital ones? |
| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [00:31:00] | kyu_flux_: | SOB ... alright... thanks. =) |
| [00:31:00] | kyu_flux_: | i'm gunna have to do that whole "firewire out etc etc etc" stuff |
| [00:31:00] | kyu_flux_: | or just be happy with analog capture |
| [00:32:00] | defII: | kormoc, seriously you got me thinking, whats the real difference between the 2? |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | defII, between the nvidia and ati card? well, nvidia's drivers are way better and easier to setup and running in a multitude of ways. Setting up my ati card at work for just dual head with hardware 3d accelleration on both heads was a huge bitch. My 5200 is way faster then my 9200 at work (by about 2x or so) |
| [00:33:00] | defII: | kormoc, and what do you mean by ati cant do HDTV? |
| [00:34:00] | kormoc: | defII, better support for multiple video cards and full hardware accelleration across all of them |
| [00:35:00] | kormoc: | defII, there's an ati driver bug with hdtv res on certain cards, I seem to recall that it's 9800's and below that on decoding of hd tv res mpeg2 video, they leave a huge green strip in it, and it's a hardware bug, not a driver bug |
| [00:36:00] | defII: | kormoc, ok I havent tried any hd yet so I cant comment |
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| [00:59:00] | cosmo_: | are negative numbers high or low priority? stupid question indeed, but Im not sure if it corresponds to unix nice levels |
| [01:00:00] | Juski: | logic would suggest they're a lower priority than positive numbers |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | but I dunno.. you're talking about rec & tuner priorities, yeh? |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | it is |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | cosmo_: see http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-12.html#ss12.2 |
| [01:02:00] | cosmo_: | yup, arent unix nice values high priority for neg numbers, Im all reversed here |
| [01:02:00] | cosmo_: | thanks mate |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | RTFM, like I just did |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | ;) |
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| [01:02:00] | cosmo_: | yeah I did, must have missed that |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | I didn't _know_ I just assumed |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | what the.. from the ML... " I am using 9500S-12 with 12 320 gig disks and it works like a charm in my box.".. 12 320 gig disks... even taking into account RAID that's a lot of storage |
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| [01:05:00] | Juski: | this looks mildly interesting: nvidia have been beavering away at H.264 support for their cards |
| [01:06:00] | Kabutor: | have you seen the mythtv setupo of grumpygamer ? |
| [01:07:00] | Juski: | Kabutor: nope |
| [01:07:00] | Kabutor: | http://grumpygamer.com/9858570 |
| [01:07:00] | Kabutor: | this is ron gilbert (monkey island creator) blog |
| [01:09:00] | Kabutor: | quite impressive I think |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | whoah |
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| [01:09:00] | ** Juski checks how many free PCI slots his backend has... ** | |
| [01:10:00] | Juski: | possibly 3 free.. hmm |
| [01:11:00] | Kabutor: | 2.5Tb raid 5 |
| [01:13:00] | Slurpee`: | i will paypal someone 50 bux if they configure my myth tv for me |
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| [01:13:00] | Slurpee`: | it shouldnt be hard seeing as you can ssh into the box and do everything |
| [01:14:00] | Cromz: | Reminds me of a TIVO (actually I have no idea how a TIVO actually works) |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [01:14:00] | Slurpee`: | juski, yo ! |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | yeh apart from the size, storage, functionality.. the cost |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | Slurpee` |
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| [01:15:00] | Juski: | Slurpee`: how far did you get yesterday? |
| [01:16:00] | riddlebox: | Yes! I figured out how to do it! I can manually insert recordings, now I have to code the rest |
| [01:16:00] | d3ity: | well |
| [01:17:00] | d3ity: | i just destroyed my xserver |
| [01:17:00] | d3ity: | so i have to reinstall all that now |
| [01:17:00] | d3ity: | ugh |
| [01:17:00] | defII: | is the pvr-500 fully supporterd? |
| [01:17:00] | defII: | *supported |
| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | it's as well supported as the 150 is |
| [01:17:00] | riddlebox: | defII, yes it is |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | defII: in the sense that it works reliably with recent ivtv drivers, yes |
| [01:17:00] | Slurpee`: | juski, ive been fuckin with video card for almost 2 weeks |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | Slurpee`: told you what to do the other day |
| [01:18:00] | defII: | cool |
| [01:18:00] | Slurpee`: | i just dont have time to mess with it |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | so don't get it working then :-P |
| [01:18:00] | Slurpee`: | i work full time and go to college full time and i don thave have rich parents paying for everything ..... |
| [01:18:00] | Slurpee`: | so at this rate my mythtv wont be done till summer break ;/ |
| [01:18:00] | defII: | Im gonna return the "I did'nt read to closely" pvr-350 and egt the 500 |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | I work full time, am married, have housework to do.. and guess what? |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | my mythtv boxes work |
| [01:19:00] | Slurpee`: | then u can make 50 bux off me :) |
| [01:20:00] | Juski: | I'm not being funny here Slurpee` but you don't seem like the ignorant type.. I'm sure if you take it easy (rush less) and take time to learn what you're doing it'll all come |
| [01:21:00] | ** Juski 's first mythtv box took 2 weeks to get going.. before work, after work, during lunchbreaks.. til 4 in the morning... ** | |
| [01:21:00] | Slurpee`: | ive already had a few nites on this |
| [01:21:00] | ** Juski 's last mythtv box took 2 hours to get going, one year later ** | |
| [01:21:00] | Slurpee`: | ive been working since about christmas |
| [01:22:00] | Slurpee`: | do u think ive changed too many settings for my video card ? |
| [01:22:00] | Slurpee`: | think i need to reformat ? |
| [01:22:00] | Juski: | Slurpee`: also – you have this 'can't' attitude man.. either that or its cos you panic & change stuff without really knowing what you're breaking.. don't take this personally but you need to take a step back from it & work more slowly |
| [01:23:00] | Slurpee`: | well im not even at home now |
| [01:23:00] | Slurpee`: | im at work |
| [01:23:00] | Slurpee`: | trying to resreach thigns to try for when i get home |
| [01:23:00] | Juski: | dump the distro you've got to one that'll just install more or less finished.. maybe ubuntu |
| [01:24:00] | Juski: | that's half your problems out of the way for a start |
| [01:25:00] | Juski: | then follow arabaccia.com 's brilliant how-to guide _slowly_, double checking everything you type before pressing ENTER ;) |
| [01:25:00] | Slurpee`: | which problems would be half way outa the way |
| [01:25:00] | Slurpee`: | my main problem is getting vid and tv card to work |
| [01:25:00] | Juski: | the video card subject, we covered the other day |
| [01:26:00] | Juski: | you know.. nvidia has a linux drivers section.. download a driver from there, unpack it & see if the install script will work.. chances are it might |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | and there are literally _countless_ how-to guides out there for getting nvidia cards configured |
| [01:29:00] | Slurpee`: | yea |
| [01:29:00] | Slurpee`: | see |
| [01:29:00] | Slurpee`: | i think my problem is that i followed way too many guides |
| [01:29:00] | Slurpee`: | and listneed to too many people |
| [01:30:00] | Slurpee`: | and i made way too many changes |
| [01:30:00] | kormoc: | well, obviously you never listened to the right people :P |
| [01:30:00] | Slurpee`: | thats why i think i need a fresh install |
| [01:30:00] | Slurpee`: | because when i did install, x started up fine |
| [01:30:00] | Slurpee`: | now that ive made changes, i cant even get x to start |
| [01:30:00] | kormoc: | with what error? |
| [01:31:00] | Slurpee`: | some video card error, im pretty sure |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | if you can ssh into the box, you can fix it |
| [01:31:00] | Slurpee`: | i kno im pissed |
| [01:31:00] | Slurpee`: | i forgot about the hit F1 on the bios |
| [01:31:00] | kormoc: | Slurpee`, so why don't you just put up the error in a pastebin so one of us can help you fix it? |
| [01:31:00] | Slurpee`: | i tried that, but no one helped |
| [01:31:00] | Slurpee`: | ive been hangin out here and #debian on efnet |
| [01:32:00] | Slurpee`: | and debian on this network too |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | whats the IP address of this box then? |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | got putty, all ready & waiting |
| [01:32:00] | Slurpee`: | <Slurpee`> i forgot about the hit F1 on the bios |
| [01:32:00] | Slurpee`: | its just sitting there waiting for someone to hit f1 |
| [01:32:00] | Slurpee`: | but my gf is home :) |
| [01:33:00] | Cromz: | http://gallery.cromz.com/main.php?g2_view=cor . . . _itemId=2435 ( dont give me crap about the mess, I'm still tinkering with it ) my dual amd2600, 1 gig ram, 1tb raid5, 20.1 widescreen myth ;) |
| [01:33:00] | Slurpee`: | actually |
| [01:33:00] | Slurpee`: | its up |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | nice theme.. who did that? |
| [01:34:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [01:34:00] | Cromz: | some geek in mythtv-users I think :> |
| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | you know that's the orginal Project-Greyhem, looks nice on that. |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | Cromz: how's the X10 stuff coming along? |
| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | damn I should have moved it up to show the x10 :> |
| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | it all works. |
| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | menus, scripts. everything. |
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| [01:36:00] | Juski: | Cromz: when I've finished parping around with stuff I'll make a really good watermark for it |
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| [01:36:00] | Juski: | Cromz: is it actually a plugin you've done? or you just calling an external app? |
| [01:36:00] | Juski: | might be worth considering making it into a plugin ;) |
| [01:37:00] | Cromz: | cool.. oh hey! I saw a watermark called hmm netflix. :> how do I use it. |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | but ffs make it worthy of inclusion into the official plugins list if you do |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | netflix.. mythflix – it's in SVN |
| [01:37:00] | Cromz: | it's a app I downloaded called bottlerock. I EXEC a script that does it.. '/usr/local/bin/br -x /dev/ttyS1 a1 on' |
| [01:38:00] | Juski: | netflix is a subs-based movie download service |
| [01:39:00] | Cromz: | http://www.linuxha.com/bottlerocket/ |
| [01:40:00] | Cromz: | that's the thing I'm using. |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | netflix is a subs-based DVD rental service |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | bit of a difference there |
| [01:40:00] | Cromz: | ya me and my wife use netflix. :) that's why I got the hmmmmmmm |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | so the mythflix plugin lets you see what you've got queued up to be delivered, I guess |
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| [01:43:00] | Juski: | well folks.. time to hit the hey hey hey (hay) |
| [01:44:00] | Cromz: | that's cool.. cause my wife is the one doing the rentals.. I never no whats coming. |
| [01:44:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | Slurpee`: good luck getting that damn box working.. jus remember – give yourself a break |
| [01:44:00] | Cromz: | night Juski |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | night all |
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| [01:45:00] | Slurpee`: | damn |
| [01:46:00] | Slurpee`: | i was gettin my box ready to ssh into ;/ |
| [01:49:00] | Cromz: | you can do it Slurpee :) |
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| [01:57:00] | ole_schoola: | goodbye FC, hello Gentoo |
| [02:01:00] | Slurpee`: | cromz, i have another debian box on my network |
| [02:01:00] | Slurpee`: | and i only have forwardnig setup for that box on my router |
| [02:01:00] | Slurpee`: | we can fux0r with it later |
| [02:02:00] | Cromz: | debian? yikes.. I dunno that disto. |
| [02:03:00] | Cromz: | that's what I get for opening my mouth. I run FC3 32 and 64 bit. |
| [02:04:00] | Slurpee`: | yea i have debian for my myth |
| [02:04:00] | Slurpee`: | been thinking about changing |
| [02:05:00] | Cromz: | I've ran with the 64bit FC3 but I wanted to split it off my main and make a seperate system. |
| [02:09:00] | Slurpee`: | fedora can take advantage of my sempron 2800+ 64 bit chip >?? |
| [02:13:00] | Cromz: | don't see why it wouldn't. long as you get the 64bit version |
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| [02:21:00] | JeffATL: | do i understand that nvidia drivers need to be kept at version <8000? |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | correct |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes and no |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you run SVN you can disable ogl vsync with a setting |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | svn or .18.2 |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you run 0.18.x you can recompile with ogl vsync support |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [02:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Supposedly you can also just tell X to not load the GLX module |
| [02:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't tested that one myself yet |
| [02:23:00] | JeffATL: | ok, i've backed them down to 7676-r2 – am i due a kernel recompile or can i fly as-is? |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't see why you would have to recompile your kernel |
| [02:24:00] | JeffATL: | 8178 version was giving me some bad chop |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
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| [02:26:00] | sven: | I booted the MythCD it didn't recognise my card. |
| [02:27:00] | JeffATL: | heeeyyy – chop is GONE! |
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| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeffATL: Heh |
| [02:28:00] | JeffATL: | i'm smooth in Watch TV mode with a 1GHz tbird |
| [02:28:00] | hagios: | hey, anyone here been able to get the pvr 350 to work? i'm running fc4 with an updated kernel and drivers. if i watch video0 with mplayer i can tune it to channels 5 and 7 to get stuff but every other channels are static |
| [02:28:00] | hagios: | anyone get this? |
| [02:28:00] | hagios: | and the quality on those channels isn't very good |
| [02:29:00] | hagios: | i really need some help on this |
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| [02:29:00] | JeffATL: | hagios: got decent cable/antenna input? |
| [02:29:00] | hagios: | i believe so. let me try the other one that's currently plugged into the working tv |
| [02:31:00] | JeffATL: | also remember that chan freqs for cable differ from over-the-air for part of the VHF range |
| [02:31:00] | JeffATL: | i think 7–14 are different |
| [02:31:00] | Elmoe: | Hey guys what is up with this libdts/libdca crap, I went to their webpage and they said they aren't distributing it before of pending legal issues? |
| [02:32:00] | kormoc: | Elmoe, that's what is up with it |
| [02:32:00] | hagios: | JeffATL, nope. same thing. video on 5 and 6 and static on every other channel |
| [02:33:00] | Elmoe: | kormoc: so how does one compile mythtv right now? |
| [02:33:00] | JuzzzzZki: | http://tjaden.strangesoft.net/libcda/ |
| [02:33:00] | JuzzzzZki: | ? |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | Elmoe, don't enable that part? |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | Elmoe, or just get a mirror and use the code? |
| [02:34:00] | hagios: | JeffATL, i have it set to input 4 (which it says is the tuner) and ntsc |
| [02:34:00] | Elmoe: | hmm I didn't see any option in ./configure --help to disable dts specifically |
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| [02:34:00] | Nothingman: | hi, all |
| [02:34:00] | hagios: | hi |
| [02:34:00] | JeffATL: | hagios: you using cable or antenna? |
| [02:34:00] | kormoc: | Elmoe, I don't have eather of those libs installed |
| [02:34:00] | kormoc: | Elmoe, and myth compiles and runs fine for myself |
| [02:35:00] | d3ity: | well |
| [02:35:00] | Elmoe: | kormoc: libavcodecs in an svn update from last night wants dts.h |
| [02:35:00] | d3ity: | i just blew out my Radeon |
| [02:35:00] | d3ity: | heatsink came loose somehow, fried the card. |
| [02:35:00] | JuzzzzZki: | Elmoe: did you mean libdts & libdca ? |
| [02:35:00] | JuzzzzZki: | d3ity: well that's one less in the world ;) |
| [02:35:00] | Elmoe: | yeah |
| [02:36:00] | sven: | Since I couldn't get the MythTV cd to find my USB tv-wonder, I decided to ask, about an Error 2 when I try to compile BtTv-0.9.15. The error reads: bttv-driver.c, function 'bttv_suspend', 3596 error: too many arguments to function 'pci_restore_state' |
| [02:36:00] | hagios: | JeffATL, cable |
| [02:36:00] | JeffATL: | hagios: make sure your tuner mode is set to US cable |
| [02:36:00] | hagios: | JeffATL, i can watch it just fine on the tv next to it |
| [02:36:00] | hagios: | how do i do that. haha |
| [02:36:00] | JeffATL: | i don't recall; run mythsetup or whatever it is |
| [02:36:00] | hagios: | i looked through itvtctrl and don't rcemember seeing it |
| [02:37:00] | JeffATL: | hagios: stopping at channel 6 is the dead giveaway |
| [02:37:00] | hagios: | oh. well i've already gone through the mythtv setup |
| [02:37:00] | hagios: | hmm |
| [02:37:00] | hagios: | well it only gives channels 5,6 |
| [02:37:00] | hagios: | nothing else |
| [02:37:00] | Elmoe: | JuzzzzZki: Any idea where I could still grab a copy of libdts/libdca? |
| [02:37:00] | JuzzzzZki: | d3ity: you'll just have to go & buy a $40 nvidia card to replace it :) You could spend less & still get help decoding MPEG though |
| [02:37:00] | kormoc: | Elmoe, http://developers.videolan.org/svn.html |
| [02:38:00] | Elmoe: | kormoc: I thought they pulled it because of the legal shit though |
| [02:38:00] | JuzzzzZki: | Elmoe: what do you need libdts/libdca for? If there's a patent issue, maybe nowhere |
| [02:38:00] | kormoc: | Elmoe, might be a different lib? |
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| [02:38:00] | Elmoe: | JuzzzzZki: dtsdec.c in libavcodec wants it |
| [02:38:00] | Elmoe: | well it wants dts.h which as far as I can tell is what libdts/libdca provides |
| [02:39:00] | hagios: | JeffATL, man this is no depressing. the only channel i get has john stamos on it. |
| [02:39:00] | JeffATL: | hagios: i feel yoh pain |
| [02:41:00] | hagios: | JeffATL, well the 'channel frequency table' in mythtvsetup is set to 'us-cable' |
| [02:42:00] | hagios: | and mythtv can like detect my inputs from my card correctly |
| [02:42:00] | hagios: | and i can use mythtv to watch channels 5 and 6 |
| [02:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Elmoe: Interesting. I don't have a dts.h on any of my machines yet I have never had an error compiling myth. Including 2 svn updates this week |
| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | or at least I should an error relating to that file ;) |
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| [02:44:00] | Elmoe: | look at libs/libavcodec/dtsdec.c |
| [02:44:00] | Elmoe: | includes dts.h at the top |
| [02:44:00] | commercials: | i cannot get commercials to be flagged |
| [02:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I did, and I saw it |
| [02:44:00] | Nothingman: | hi, all |
| [02:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | and like I said, it's odd that not once have I ever had a error compiling |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | yet I don't have ythat file |
| [02:45:00] | commercials: | my commercials say they are flagged but when i try to skip them manually, it says there are none flagged when commercials are on |
| [02:45:00] | Nothingman: | using KnoppMyth, finally figured out that the /dev node for my HD was there all along, mounted it, symlinked my mp3 files and now they won't load under mythfrontend on that machine |
| [02:45:00] | commercials: | I NEED HELP |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Elmoe: Actually it looks liek dtsdec.c isn't being compiled at all on my boxes, maybe due to something auto detected during ./configure |
| [02:46:00] | commercials: | i am using fc4 |
| [02:46:00] | Elmoe: | GreyFoxx: hrm yeah I was trying to see if I could pass a flag to configure to skip it |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm certainly not intentionally skipping |
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| [02:50:00] | JeffATL: | hagios: fwiw, i think there is more than one way us cable systems arrange the >=7 freqs, so try others |
| [02:50:00] | commercials: | can anyone help me skip commercials? its getting late and i would like to get this done |
| [02:50:00] | JeffATL: | hagios: other settings that is |
| [02:51:00] | redline-: | hey guys, Juski sparc'ed my interest earlier with minimyth, is there anything like that for x86 equipment? |
| [02:52:00] | commercials: | using myth on fc4 my commercials say they are flagged but when i try to skip them manually, it says there are none flagged when commercials are on |
| [02:52:00] | JuzzzzZki: | http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.17/it.A/id.421/.f |
| [02:52:00] | commercials: | anyone have any answers? |
| [02:52:00] | commercials: | ideas? |
| [02:52:00] | redline-: | haha Juski cant sleep |
| [02:56:00] | hagios: | JeffATL, any suggestions for what settings to look at? |
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| [02:57:00] | JuzzzzZki: | redline-: it's not funny |
| [02:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Hello everyone |
| [02:57:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one here know anythign about dish bouncing and stuff? |
| [02:58:00] | hpAuto: | dish bouncing? |
| [02:58:00] | JuzzzzZki: | I think someone here has been tinkering with a diskless mythtv-based distro... ;) |
| [02:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | uhh positioning a sat :-P |
| [02:58:00] | darkdrgn2k: | JuzzzzZki: ive seen a UBUNTO distro |
| [02:58:00] | hpAuto: | oh, I was going to say, my corning ware bounces before it breaks |
| [02:59:00] | JuzzzzZki: | darkdrgn2k: a job for a satellite finder meter (handheld thing you plug the dish into) and a compass |
| [03:00:00] | JuzzzzZki: | in the analogue days you could put a TV & the sat receiver in the garden & wave the dish around.. but not anymore |
| [03:00:00] | hpAuto: | how do you align it now? |
| [03:00:00] | JuzzzzZki: | a compass & signal strength meter, that's how |
| [03:00:00] | Elmoe: | GreyFoxx: I just deleted the target from the Makefile heh |
| [03:00:00] | JuzzzzZki: | like the pro's do |
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| [03:01:00] | hpAuto: | can you make a sig meter? |
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| [03:02:00] | JuzzzzZki: | hpAuto: you could, but it wouldn't be easy |
| [03:02:00] | hpAuto: | don't they have a special channel to help |
| [03:02:00] | JuzzzzZki: | they actually demodulate the signal now & give you BER, SIG (etc) readout like an actual receiver would |
| [03:03:00] | JuzzzzZki: | or spend a few sheckles & get a book like this: http://www.satcure.co.uk/book.htm#installing |
| [03:04:00] | JuzzzzZki: | http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/page6.htm |
| [03:05:00] | JuzzzzZki: | and this: http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/satmeter.htm |
| [03:05:00] | JuzzzzZki: | so suddenly the £80 installer fee doesn't seem so bad eh? |
| [03:06:00] | JuzzzzZki: | woohoo! eyelids feeling heavy... I'm my own insomnia cure :) |
| [03:10:00] | redline-: | sorry Juski, goooo to sleeeeeeepp gooo to sleeeep, ill have more questions for oyu in the morning, go to sleep now goto sleep now...... |
| [03:11:00] | redline-: | sing that in the form of a nursery rhyme |
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| [03:20:00] | hagios: | so anyone had it where you can only tune to like 2 channels and the rest are static on a pvr 350? |
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| [03:22:00] | d3ity: | ok |
| [03:22:00] | d3ity: | now that my radeon is officially fried |
| [03:22:00] | d3ity: | can someone reccomend a CHEAP...card with TV-out |
| [03:23:00] | Agrajag-: | nvidia fx5200 |
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| [03:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hagios: its called dont use rabit ears |
| [03:27:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, I'd second the fx5200 |
| [03:27:00] | kormoc: | or a 6200 |
| [03:28:00] | hagios: | DarkBeer, haha. i'm usin cable |
| [03:28:00] | hagios: | oops. i mean darkdrgn2k |
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| [03:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hagios: check for CABLE tuning not ANTENA |
| [03:29:00] | hagios: | where would i do that? i'm testing it by viewing it in mplayer and tuning it with ivtvtuner |
| [03:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hagios: does a regular TV work with the same cable you plug into the card.. might be a leack in your cable network |
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| [03:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hagios: do you have a TVR modulating on that cable?? (IE is the VCR on between your cable source and your card) |
| [03:30:00] | hagios: | yeah i'm watchin on a regular tv rigth next to it. i checked to make sure it wasn't the cable |
| [03:30:00] | hagios: | nope. it's straight from the cable. |
| [03:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hagios: what ivtv you usin |
| [03:31:00] | hagios: | 0.4.1 |
| [03:32:00] | Rule: | Hi all. I'm experimenting with DVB-c HDTV recording, but it fails :-/ I get "slice mismatch" and "Warning MVs not available" |
| [03:32:00] | hagios: | kernel 2.6.14 |
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| [04:11:00] | IRCsloth: | anyone use a hauppage pvr-150 MCE remote with myth? |
| [04:11:00] | IRCsloth: | it's a grey one with a windows logo in the center button |
| [04:12:00] | IRCsloth: | it says RC6 IR on the back |
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| [04:17:00] | kcody: | IRCsloth: yes, i have one of those working |
| [04:17:00] | kcody: | you have to make a custom ~/.mythtv/lircrc file, and set an env variable to compile the mceusb2 driver in LIRC |
| [04:17:00] | IRCsloth: | what is it called in the lirc config script? |
| [04:17:00] | IRCsloth: | ah |
| [04:18:00] | IRCsloth: | ok |
| [04:18:00] | kcody: | do a ./configure --help and check, it was something weird |
| [04:18:00] | kcody: | build the mceusb2 driver and it will install the right /etc/lircd.conf |
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| [04:19:00] | IRCsloth: | any luck with the IR blaster? |
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| [04:21:00] | kcody: | IRCsloth: no, didn't want it so i didn't try |
| [04:21:00] | IRCsloth: | ok, thanks for the info |
| [04:21:00] | kcody: | np |
| [04:21:00] | kcody: | i'm using a split front/backend, it would be in the wrong place anyway |
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| [04:52:00] | kcody: | JeffATL: ever get your remote working right? |
| [04:55:00] | JeffATL: | kcody: haven't tried yet – have another problem to solve though |
| [04:55:00] | kcody: | oh? |
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| [04:57:00] | JeffATL: | i backed down my nvidia drivers to version<8000 and my skipping went away, but now startx fails saying "failed to load glx" |
| [04:58:00] | kcody: | nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel at the same versions? ran opengl-update? |
| [04:58:00] | JeffATL: | kcody: checking versions |
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| [04:59:00] | JeffATL: | no – 7676 r1 and r2!! |
| [04:59:00] | kcody: | that shouldn't matter |
| [05:00:00] | kcody: | opengl-update |
| [05:00:00] | JeffATL: | but i haven't run opengl-update – does that require networking? |
| [05:00:00] | kcody: | no, it just fixes your symlinks |
| [05:02:00] | JeffATL: | ok, "opengl-update" fixed startx |
| [05:02:00] | JeffATL: | but it looks like s-video output is unusable |
| [05:03:00] | kcody: | check into your docs for that, i'm using a 19" flat crt via rgb |
| [05:04:00] | kcody: | actually i'm liking the idea of -not- using xvmc |
| [05:04:00] | kcody: | it opens the door to drm |
| [05:04:00] | JeffATL: | this is s-video to a 31" GE tube tv |
| [05:05:00] | JeffATL: | thru a radio shack active switcher |
| [05:05:00] | kcody: | probably have to turn on the svideo output |
| [05:06:00] | JeffATL: | text mode is coming out the s-video |
| [05:06:00] | JeffATL: | do you mean within mythtv? |
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| [05:10:00] | JeffATL: | i just went thru mythseup and there were no such options |
| [05:13:00] | kcody: | wait, what? text mode on svideo but not X? |
| [05:13:00] | kcody: | turning it on wouldn't be in myth, it'd be in xorg.conf |
| [05:15:00] | JeffATL: | do i need to limit my vert/horix res to something? |
| [05:17:00] | kcody: | possibly |
| [05:17:00] | kcody: | probably 800x600, although you probably want to just go with the ntsc 720x480 capture res |
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| [05:20:00] | |Slurpee|: | so |
| [05:20:00] | |Slurpee|: | who is still around ??? |
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| [05:20:00] | |Slurpee|: | and wants to help me with my never ending mythtv problems |
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| [05:24:00] | JeffATL: | kcody: ok – i'll give that a shot tomorrow – i've had x in maybe 1280x1024 |
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| [05:30:00] | Guyfromhe: | i'm still around |
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| [05:31:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | any one awake? |
| [05:31:00] | Guyfromhe: | yup |
| [05:33:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | knwo anyting about the ir blaster with pvr150 |
| [05:34:00] | Guyfromhe: | i know my boss couldn't get it to work |
| [05:34:00] | Guyfromhe: | thats about the extent of my knowledge |
| [05:34:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | LOL |
| [05:34:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | krap |
| [05:34:00] | Guyfromhe: | i just got my 150 |
| [05:34:00] | Guyfromhe: | and i havn't had a chance to try the blaster |
| [05:34:00] | Guyfromhe: | i['m still using the IR reciever on my 359 |
| [05:34:00] | Guyfromhe: | 350 |
| [05:35:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | LOL im trying to get the blaster working wiht my sat box |
| [05:35:00] | Guyfromhe: | i imagine theres a way to get it working |
| [05:35:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | BUT i donno if there is a way to manyally map the remote's codes |
| [05:35:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | do you have to attache th IR right onto the device. or can it be a few cm away |
| [05:36:00] | Guyfromhe: | few cm away should be fine |
| [05:37:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | damit |
| [05:37:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | the receiver wont pick up any other remote.. |
| [05:37:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | and i donno what to send to the IR |
| [05:37:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | IR blaster |
| [05:37:00] | Guyfromhe: | eh? |
| [05:37:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | hell my panasonit vcr doesnt even work |
| [05:38:00] | Guyfromhe: | hm |
| [05:38:00] | Guyfromhe: | thats not good |
| [05:38:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | it seems there are "CODE SETS" in the firmware or somethign |
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| [05:41:00] | Guyfromhe: | there are? |
| [05:41:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | maybe its just int he conf file |
| [05:41:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | i donno |
| [05:41:00] | Guyfromhe: | i havn't really looked into it |
| [05:41:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | grrrr |
| [05:42:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | do you knwo if the pvr's ir receiver can pick up =otehr remotes? |
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| [05:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | i don't recall for sure |
| [05:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | but i'm pretty sure I checked and it couldn't |
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| [05:45:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | any one know what mode2 does |
| [05:45:00] | Guyfromhe: | nope |
| [05:46:00] | Guyfromhe: | not very helpful today -.- |
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| [05:49:00] | confusi0n: | is livetv still disabled in svn? |
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| [05:50:00] | Agrajag-: | darkdrgn2k\: man page says "mode2 will simply print pulse&space lengths to stdout." |
| [05:50:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | yeh.... |
| [05:50:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | any one know if the REALMAGIC receiver can handle other remotes? |
| [05:51:00] | Agrajag-: | try it? |
| [05:51:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | i gatta figuer out how to comple the driver first :-P |
| [05:51:00] | Agrajag-: | i know some of my receivers don't accept any other codes from other remotes |
| [05:51:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | this one is old.. so maybe |
| [05:52:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | i want ti figure out what codes to send to may satalite box |
| [05:52:00] | darkdrgn2k\: | w. the ir blaster |
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| [06:00:00] | Z-Morek: | anyone else had issues with the menus not refreshing after deleting episodes? |
| [06:07:00] | adante: | anybody got links to configure a graphical boot in gentoo handy? |
| [06:07:00] | adante: | everything i've tried start x with bizarre env settings |
| [06:08:00] | Guyfromhe: | Z-Morek: nope |
| [06:08:00] | Guyfromhe: | adante: nope |
| [06:10:00] | Z-Morek: | somewhere there's a setting I need to change |
| [06:10:00] | Z-Morek: | some small bug somewhere that noone's caught |
| [06:10:00] | Z-Morek: | that I'm much too noobish to catch myself |
| [06:10:00] | Guyfromhe: | whats it doing exactly? |
| [06:10:00] | Z-Morek: | it's as though after I delete a recording |
| [06:10:00] | Z-Morek: | it redraws the screen but without refreshing |
| [06:10:00] | Z-Morek: | the deleted recording is still shown |
| [06:11:00] | Z-Morek: | and the preview still plays |
| [06:11:00] | Guyfromhe: | it can't play if it's not there |
| [06:11:00] | Z-Morek: | technically it's still there |
| [06:11:00] | Z-Morek: | for one reason or another it doesn't get deleted immediately |
| [06:11:00] | Guyfromhe: | if you exit out and go back in is it still there? |
| [06:11:00] | Z-Morek: | nope |
| [06:11:00] | Z-Morek: | it's goen |
| [06:12:00] | Z-Morek: | but I have to leave the menu and go back for it to go away |
| [06:12:00] | Guyfromhe: | ['what ver? |
| [06:12:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm running apt-get with the atrpms packages |
| [06:12:00] | Z-Morek: | stable |
| [06:12:00] | Z-Morek: | h/o |
| [06:12:00] | Guyfromhe: | prolly 0.18 then |
| [06:12:00] | Guyfromhe: | i'd imagine |
| [06:13:00] | Z-Morek: | yeah I actually just updated today |
| [06:13:00] | Z-Morek: | it held back my mythtvfrontend.... |
| [06:13:00] | sosumi: | i dont have that refresh issue |
| [06:13:00] | Guyfromhe: | me neither |
| [06:13:00] | Z-Morek: | I tried multiple guis |
| [06:13:00] | sosumi: | 0.18.1 |
| [06:13:00] | Guyfromhe: | have you rebooted since the update? |
| [06:13:00] | Z-Morek: | themes I mean |
| [06:14:00] | Guyfromhe: | i'm running 0.18 |
| [06:14:00] | Z-Morek: | it's been like this for a while |
| [06:14:00] | Guyfromhe: | theme shouldn't have any effect on it |
| [06:14:00] | Z-Morek: | I went thru and tinkered with almost every setting I could imagine would affect it |
| [06:14:00] | Guyfromhe: | there isn't a setting that would do that |
| [06:15:00] | Z-Morek: | I wonder if maybe it's not accessing the DB quick enough as it's a backend/frontend |
| [06:15:00] | Z-Morek: | and it refreshes before it's deleted so to speak |
| [06:15:00] | Z-Morek: | wow... it's late |
| [06:15:00] | Z-Morek: | and I have school.... today.... |
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| [06:15:00] | Guyfromhe: | could be something to do with when it puts through the delete op |
| [06:15:00] | Guyfromhe: | it might already have the file opened before the delete finishes |
| [06:16:00] | Guyfromhe: | seeems odd that no one else woudl have that prolem though |
| [06:16:00] | Guyfromhe: | sounds like the kind of thing tht would be reported and fixed |
| [06:17:00] | sosumi: | probably he is running cvs or whatever version |
| [06:17:00] | Guyfromhe: | he said he's running the stable ver |
| [06:19:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm wayyy too nubbish to run my own compiles |
| [06:19:00] | Z-Morek: | I followed the wilsonet guide |
| [06:19:00] | Z-Morek: | I think I need a kernel upgrade |
| [06:19:00] | Z-Morek: | but I HATE upgrading |
| [06:19:00] | Z-Morek: | I always have to reinstall drivers |
| [06:20:00] | Z-Morek: | unless I've been going about this the wrong way |
| [06:21:00] | Z-Morek: | after the kernel upgrade I can get the latest stables of all my packages |
| [06:23:00] | Guyfromhe: | anyway weird problem, i dunno whats causing it though |
| [06:23:00] | Guyfromhe: | I can't think of a good reason why that would be happening |
| [06:23:00] | Z-Morek: | and neither do I |
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| [06:24:00] | Guyfromhe: | back and frontend on same box? |
| [06:27:00] | dtm: | Guyfromhe: word. |
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| [06:30:00] | Guyfromhe: | dtm: word. |
| [06:31:00] | sosumi: | my backend and frontend is on the same box as my desktop |
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| [06:32:00] | sosumi: | no performance issues |
| [06:32:00] | Guyfromhe: | same here |
| [06:32:00] | dtm: | Guyfromhe: i told my wisp buddy (sole proprietor, owner/operator) about your network and he was impressed |
| [06:33:00] | dtm: | Guyfromhe: he's evaluating the possibility of building CPEs with embedded linux, as some in #wireless already have |
| [06:33:00] | Guyfromhe: | ah |
| [06:34:00] | Guyfromhe: | our modems run vxworks |
| [06:34:00] | dtm: | oic |
| [06:35:00] | Guyfromhe: | i havn't figured out how to get a vxworks console yet though |
| [06:36:00] | Guyfromhe: | anyway good luck to him |
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| [06:37:00] | CygnusX1: | Hello |
| [06:37:00] | CygnusX1: | Does anyone happen to have an nvidia xorg.conf configured such that you can "use the computer" on a monitor and run mythfrontend on a TV? |
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| [06:40:00] | Guyfromhe: | dtm: the most impressive part is that were still in business |
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| [06:45:00] | Z-Morek: | did an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [06:45:00] | Z-Morek: | it's still holding back mythtv frontend |
| [06:45:00] | Z-Morek: | and I'm too tired to do this |
| [06:45:00] | Z-Morek: | adios |
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| [06:50:00] | lilo: | there'll be a small server restart in a few moments; affected users, about 1,300 |
| [06:50:00] | adante: | if i wanted to import my recordings to another database, which tables would I have to dupe? |
| [06:55:00] | Guyfromhe: | hm |
| [06:56:00] | signbarn: | is there any way I can make changes that i make to /dev (creating symlinks and changing permissions) permanent? when i restart my computer, everything just reverts to the way it was. |
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| [07:14:00] | Gumby`: | does anyone know what this is in mythtv's log. "2006-01–09 23:13:00.378 Reschedule requested for id -1" I am restarting my backend and it gets to that point and then crashes. Not sure whether thats the issue or if its something else |
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| [07:17:00] | EnterUserName: | hia ll |
| [07:17:00] | EnterUserName: | can someone help me with ivtv? |
| [07:17:00] | EnterUserName: | img etting an error message and im not sure what it means |
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| [07:20:00] | EnterUserName: | hi all |
| [07:20:00] | EnterUserName: | can someone help me |
| [07:20:00] | EnterUserName: | with ivtv? |
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| [07:23:00] | EnterUserName: | can someone help me here? |
| [07:23:00] | EnterUserName: | or is everyone sleeping :) |
| [07:24:00] | Gumby`: | EnterUserName: I probably cant help you, but usually in order for someone to help, you need to post a question |
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| [07:25:00] | EnterUserName: | oh ok |
| [07:25:00] | EnterUserName: | im getting some error messages using ivtv 0.4.1 |
| [07:25:00] | signbarn: | how do i go about scripting admin tasks |
| [07:25:00] | EnterUserName: | ivtv |
| [07:25:00] | signbarn: | like changing permissions and making symlinks in the /dev directory? |
| [07:25:00] | EnterUserName: | all my fuiles are correctly there |
| [07:26:00] | EnterUserName: | but its not working |
| [07:26:00] | EnterUserName: | ivtv0 warning: Encoder mailbox not found |
| [07:26:00] | EnterUserName: | ivtv0: Failed to load module cx25840 |
| [07:26:00] | EnterUserName: | ivtv0 warning: Decoder mailbox not found |
| [07:26:00] | EnterUserName: | an ideas? |
| [07:26:00] | EnterUserName: | its mentioning i2c client is not fouind as well |
| [07:26:00] | Gumby`: | do you have the cx25840 module? |
| [07:26:00] | Gumby`: | and i2c? |
| [07:27:00] | Gumby`: | have you run depmod after compiling the ivtv modules? |
| [07:27:00] | EnterUserName: | umm yes |
| [07:27:00] | EnterUserName: | oh |
| [07:27:00] | EnterUserName: | i2c and cx25840 module.. ill check thats a kernel module right? |
| [07:27:00] | Gumby`: | yes |
| [07:27:00] | Gumby`: | modiffo cx25840 |
| [07:27:00] | Gumby`: | err |
| [07:28:00] | Gumby`: | modinfo cx25840 |
| [07:28:00] | EnterUserName: | yup i don have it |
| [07:28:00] | EnterUserName: | i must have left it out |
| [07:28:00] | EnterUserName: | whats the i2c module? |
| [07:28:00] | Gumby`: | then you probably need to recompilie your kernel with that and i2c support |
| [07:28:00] | EnterUserName: | oh ok |
| [07:30:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [07:30:00] | EnterUserName: | it is compiled in |
| [07:30:00] | EnterUserName: | gumb y |
| [07:30:00] | EnterUserName: | i2c as amodule |
| [07:30:00] | Gumby`: | as a module or compiled into the kenel |
| [07:30:00] | Gumby`: | kernel |
| [07:30:00] | EnterUserName: | as a module it hink |
| [07:30:00] | EnterUserName: | do i need dallas 1-wire bus? |
| [07:30:00] | Gumby`: | not sure, I dont think so though |
| [07:31:00] | Gumby`: | is there a * or a M next to it |
| [07:31:00] | EnterUserName: | M |
| [07:31:00] | EnterUserName: | i got rid of some support |
| [07:31:00] | EnterUserName: | for dallas |
| [07:31:00] | EnterUserName: | and ibm servie processor |
| [07:31:00] | EnterUserName: | im usingf kernel 2.6.15 |
| [07:31:00] | Gumby`: | I dont think you ran depmod -a |
| [07:32:00] | EnterUserName: | u miht be right |
| [07:32:00] | Gumby`: | fileserver:~# modinfo cx25840 |
| [07:32:00] | Gumby`: | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.14.3myth/ivtv/cx25840.ko |
| [07:32:00] | Gumby`: | description: CX25840 Broadcast audio and video decoder driver |
| [07:32:00] | EnterUserName: | I just ran devmod -a |
| [07:32:00] | EnterUserName: | didnt change |
| [07:32:00] | Gumby`: | depmod -a |
| [07:33:00] | Gumby`: | ls /lib/modules/{your-kernel-ver}ivtv |
| [07:33:00] | signbarn: | is there any startup script that i can edit that runs with admin/superuser priviledges? |
| [07:33:00] | EnterUserName: | ivtv-fb and ivtv.ko are there |
| [07:34:00] | Gumby`: | signbarn: no idea |
| [07:34:00] | Gumby`: | EnterUserName: then I am not sure you're ivtv compilation went proper. |
| [07:34:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [07:35:00] | EnterUserName: | its saying itso k |
| [07:35:00] | Gumby`: | fileserver:~# ls /lib/modules/2.6.14.3myth/ivtv |
| [07:35:00] | Gumby`: | cs53l32a.ko cx25840.ko ivtv-fb.ko ivtv.ko msp3400.ko saa7115.ko saa7127.ko tda9887.ko tuner.ko tveeprom.ko tveeprom.ko.bak wm8775.ko |
| [07:35:00] | EnterUserName: | is that 0.4.1? |
| [07:35:00] | Gumby`: | might be 0.4.0 |
| [07:35:00] | Gumby`: | I forget |
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| [07:36:00] | signbarn: | i'm having trouble with my lirc. i installed the streamzap drivers and when i restart, i have to recreate the symlinks (/dev/lirc -> /dev/lirc0) and change the permissions of them all so i don't need to be admin to use them. it's really burning my brain |
| [07:36:00] | EnterUserName: | wierd |
| [07:36:00] | EnterUserName: | so im missing files: ) |
| [07:37:00] | Gumby`: | unless a lot has changed that I dont know about in 0.4.1 |
| [07:37:00] | EnterUserName: | well the make file seemed to work ok |
| [07:37:00] | EnterUserName: | i did a make cleantoo |
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| [07:38:00] | levander: | I'm looking at this WinTV-PVR 500 MCE, does that work with Myth even though it has MCE in the name? |
| [07:38:00] | Gumby`: | levander: I believe so but check the forums. You should get a good answer there |
| [07:39:00] | levander: | Gumby`: where are the forums? |
| [07:40:00] | levander: | Gumby`: google comes up with some mythtvtalk.com, is that the one you're talking about? |
| [07:41:00] | Chutt: | you could always read the hardware section in the mythtv docs. |
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| [07:43:00] | Gumby`: | there are some at mysettopbox.tv |
| [07:44:00] | Gumby`: | levander: either way, google is your best friend :) |
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| [07:45:00] | adante: | where do i go to change the size of fonts in myth? |
| [07:45:00] | adante: | the osd ones are too big, the menu ones are too small |
| [07:45:00] | EnterUserName: | bah |
| [07:45:00] | EnterUserName: | this sucks |
| [07:45:00] | EnterUserName: | i gotta get up in4 horus |
| [07:45:00] | EnterUserName: | adn i wanted my show to tape after compiling new kernel. :( |
| [07:48:00] | Gumby`: | adante: check in the setup/settings in myth |
| [07:48:00] | Gumby`: | adante: its all there, you just have to look for it a bit |
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| [07:54:00] | EnterUserName: | bnah |
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| [08:04:00] | adante: | thanks Gumby`.. tried those originally but wasn't sure if they made a difference, seems they do |
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| [08:15:00] | adante: | where do i go to enable automatic transcoding after recording again? |
| [08:15:00] | adante: | was it recording profiles -> hardware encoders -> default -> tick the transcode box in the first page? |
| [08:15:00] | adante: | i don't have a software decoder but i remember it being a little cryptic |
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| [08:22:00] | adante: | ok, is there a way to change the size of fonts in the e.g. settings menu, epg..? |
| [08:22:00] | adante: | and what exactly does the font size in settings->appearance change the font size of? |
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| [08:52:00] | defaultro: | anyone online? got a question about hdtv |
| [08:53:00] | Beyondhelp: | Online , but clueless on hdtv |
| [08:54:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [08:54:00] | Beyondhelp: | been reading this lately though http://wendy.seltzer.org/mythtv/ |
| [08:57:00] | defaultro: | well, i would just like to know if dvico lite is better than dvico gold |
| [08:57:00] | Beyondhelp: | *shrug* |
| [09:00:00] | defaultro: | np |
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| [09:27:00] | sosumi: | from just the name, i would guess that "gold" is better than "lite" |
| [09:28:00] | sosumi: | but whats in a name ? |
| [09:28:00] | ** sosumi shrugs ** | |
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| [12:45:00] | ** Juski 's CAT5 video sender now works again (yay) ** | |
| [12:46:00] | Kelerion: | nice work :) |
| [12:46:00] | Kelerion: | how's it work |
| [12:48:00] | Juski: | balanced driver / receiver.. nothing fancy like digitizing ;) |
| [12:48:00] | Juski: | sends svideo & stereo audio down one very cheap CAT5 cable |
| [12:49:00] | Kelerion: | erm.. whats a "balanced driver"? |
| [12:49:00] | fryfrog: | any signal degradation? |
| [12:49:00] | Juski: | not that I can see |
| [12:50:00] | fryfrog: | neat |
| [12:50:00] | fryfrog: | did you make it or buy it? |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: I take each signal (which is single ended)... drive one side of a pair high and the other side of the pair low... then take the difference at the other end |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | made it |
| [12:50:00] | Kelerion: | ahh.. I think I can understand that :) |
| [12:51:00] | supa_user: | hrm, you should sell those |
| [12:51:00] | supa_user: | i'd buy a couple |
| [12:51:00] | Juski: | so any noise that gets induced in the cable effectively gets cancelled out :) |
| [12:51:00] | Juski: | you can buy them already.. but they ain't cheap |
| [12:51:00] | fryfrog: | did you come up with the design on your own or find somethin on the interweb? |
| [12:52:00] | supa_user: | i have some 35ft runs of svideo/audio over antenna cable now... they mostly work OK but it was a bitch to run so many wires (and so thick!) |
| [12:52:00] | fryfrog: | Juski: wonder if you could do it for HDMI/DVI or component? |
| [12:54:00] | Juski: | you could make it do component |
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| [12:55:00] | Juski: | google for 'video over cat5' or something ;) |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | I used 12 video op-amps I found lying round at work |
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| [12:57:00] | Juski: | you can buy non-powered 'baluns' to do the job but they tend to suck lots |
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| [12:59:00] | Juski: | a while ago I looked into making these as a business venture but all the beaurocracy put me off (CE marking, approvals, etc) Plus my time is worth more than the margin I'd make |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | can't find the link to the page I got the idea from |
| [13:03:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.svideo.com/videobalun1.html |
| [13:03:00] | Kelerion: | they do hdmi.. but damn they're expensive |
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| [13:18:00] | PaulWay: | Hi all! |
| [13:19:00] | PaulWay: | Anyone know what a DVB card throwing an "Unsupported heirarchy parameter." means? |
| [13:19:00] | PaulWay: | It seems to cause it to not get any data from the card. I get a message every second in the log about it. |
| [13:20:00] | PaulWay: | What's most annoying is that it seems to be card independent – last week it was card 1, now it's card 0. |
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| [13:22:00] | Kelerion: | PaulWay: I don't know anything about dvb.. but a search on google for "Unsupported hierarchy parameter" brings up plenty of results |
| [13:23:00] | PaulWay: | Kelerion: It's sorting through the myriad results that I find challenging. |
| [13:23:00] | PaulWay: | But, yes, I should just FGI. |
| [13:24:00] | Juski: | PaulWay: is heirarchy set to auto or none in mythtv-setup for the multiplexes? |
| [13:24:00] | Juski: | typically it should be none IIRC |
| [13:25:00] | PaulWay: | Hmmm. Just a minute, Juski, will check. |
| [13:25:00] | Juski: | might be set to 'auto' by default, which may not help |
| [13:25:00] | Kelerion: | am gonna have to setup dvb in a couple of days – I just know it's gonna give me grief from all the questions that get asked about it |
| [13:27:00] | PaulWay: | Juski: All transports were on 'auto'. I've now set them to 'none'. |
| [13:28:00] | PaulWay: | Kelerion: For the most part it's actually great. |
| [13:28:00] | PaulWay: | I |
| [13:29:00] | PaulWay: | Most annoyingly, I've just noticed that the unsupported hierarchy parameter message was before mythbackend used DVB0 (the one that failed before) to get successfully lock on to a signal. |
| [13:30:00] | PaulWay: | It goes from None to RecordingOnly, opens the card successfully (using TS mode) and then gets no data from it. |
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| [13:31:00] | PaulWay: | Now, I find it difficult (though not impossible) to believe that the antenna connection was wiggled, but that it could have come out of what is a quite tight joint, and then back in later to work correctly, is pretty astronomical odds. |
| [13:32:00] | PaulWay: | And it's even had trouble (earlier) tuning the same channel that it (later) tuned and recorded successfully. |
| [13:33:00] | PaulWay: | I have no freaking idea why. |
| [13:34:00] | PaulWay: | Does anyone know what the status of DVB signal quality monitoring is in development? |
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| [13:41:00] | PaulWay: | dvbsnoop seems to fail ioctls on half the calls |
| [13:42:00] | PaulWay: | Maybe the soft power reset we had a while back did something bad to it. I'll try rebooting. |
| [13:42:00] | ** PaulWay knows he's approaching voodoo troubleshooting territory... ** | |
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| [13:46:00] | PaulWay: | Anyway, I think I should head for bed before seriously attempting to troubleshoot this. |
| [13:46:00] | PaulWay: | Thanks for the ideas, people. |
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| [13:58:00] | bjohnson: | I need to find a way to program a search for staples.ca to find deals |
| [13:59:00] | bjohnson: | sometimes they have absolutely silly deals on there .. but I never find them until they're out of stock |
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| [13:59:00] | bjohnson: | today they had a 128M USB flash drive for $0.99 |
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| [14:01:00] | Beirdo_: | jeez |
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| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | yay, my linode is having routing issues again |
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| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | theplanet seems to be a POS today |
| [14:01:00] | Beirdo: | ah well |
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| [14:03:00] | Beirdo: | eek! |
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| [14:03:00] | ** laga slaps Beirdo ** | |
| [14:04:00] | ** Beirdo kicks laga ** | |
| [14:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:04:00] | ** laga collapses ** | |
| [14:04:00] | Beirdo: | our old house burned down last night, apparently |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | wow, that sucks |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | did anyone got hurt? |
| [14:04:00] | Beirdo: | nobody was home |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | that's good news |
| [14:05:00] | Beirdo: | my cousin lives there now, apparently they were out, and the worst damage was right where my bedroom was |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | aren't you glad you moved out? ;) |
| [14:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehhe |
| [14:06:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [14:06:00] | Beirdo: | I moved out of there... like 14 years ago |
| [14:06:00] | Beirdo: | but anyways |
| [14:07:00] | laga: | heh |
| [14:07:00] | Beirdo: | well, I should drag my butt to work |
| [14:07:00] | Beirdo: | I shudder to think of how many accellerants were in that bedroom when I was a teen |
| [14:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | butane, benzine, matches, occasionally kerosene, candles. |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | methane... |
| [14:08:00] | Juski: | benzine? wth were you doing in there? |
| [14:08:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [14:08:00] | laga: | err, what kind of hobbies did you have back then? or did you just like the smell? ;) |
| [14:08:00] | laga: | hi Juski |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | benzine is used for checking the watermarks in stamps |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | hi laga.. lookin busy, as usual ;)3 |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | or is it benzene? |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | I never remember which one |
| [14:09:00] | Beirdo: | lighter fluid |
| [14:09:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe ;). pays the bills ;) |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | both probablyu carcinogens |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | got to figure a way to put some series termination in the strobe lines of this ATA Flash devcie |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | oh yeah, they are |
| [14:10:00] | Merlin83b: | An Uzi 9mm, Juski. |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | softies are blaming the hardware now... ping, pong |
| [14:10:00] | Beirdo: | you shouldn't need much termination on those lines |
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| [14:11:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: but there's none.. should be about 82 Ohms |
| [14:11:00] | Juski: | sorry 22 Ohms |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think we EVER used termination to our flash devices |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | how badly is it overshooting/ringing? |
| [14:13:00] | ** Beirdo is an embedded software dude, primarily, but knows his hardware sufficiently :) ** | |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | this is an IDE flash, so the interface needs to follow IDE interface rules |
| [14:15:00] | Juski: | impossible to say how bad it's overshooting/ringing – some bastard is hogging both good 'scopes |
| [14:15:00] | laga: | shoot him |
| [14:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:16:00] | Juski: | but it this way – our IDE bus analyser is sometimes showing different data for the same access |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's not a good thing for sure :) |
| [14:16:00] | Beirdo: | kick your cow-worker in the head and steal a scope :) |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:17:00] | Juski: | I'll just soak him in IPA & set light to him instead |
| [14:17:00] | Juski: | that'll teach the twat |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | IPA? |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | as in India Pale Ale? |
| [14:17:00] | Juski: | isopropyl alcohol |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | no wasting fine beer? |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [14:17:00] | Beirdo: | whew |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | beer |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | yummy |
| [14:18:00] | Beirdo: | it's not something silly like pull-up resistors on the lines that are too small in value or something is it? |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | no oullups |
| [14:18:00] | Beirdo: | K :) |
| [14:18:00] | Beirdo: | that one catches some people |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | waiting to speak to the manufacturer to see what their opinion is |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | too strong or too weak a pullup can cause interesting results :) |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | metastablity, that'd be called ;) |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, yup |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | fun stuff |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | well, good luck with it, I'd better get my sorry butt to work.. another fine day of boring sysadmin work |
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| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | I want work in embedded again, I miss it |
| [14:20:00] | Juski: | btw folks I tested that CAT5 video transciever over 300 metres of cable.. video is good to 6.5MHz |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | not bad |
| [14:21:00] | Juski: | better than 300m of video RG58 anyway ;) |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | it uses lvds or what? |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | or do they say? |
| [14:21:00] | Juski: | it's differential yeh |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | coolness |
| [14:21:00] | Juski: | 'they' = me |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | oh, you designed it? |
| [14:22:00] | Beirdo: | nice stuff |
| [14:22:00] | Juski: | I snaffled a basic schematic off the interweb & built the circuits |
| [14:22:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [14:22:00] | Juski: | got it running off single rail supplies without messy potential dividers on the opamp inputs too |
| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | good |
| [14:23:00] | Juski: | split +12V to +/- 6V using a 6V regulator |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | does away with the need for decoupling capacitors, too |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | and each end fits in a box the size of a ciggy packet |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | so the + of the regulator is your circuit ground |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [14:24:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: spot on |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't have thought of doing it that way |
| [14:24:00] | adante: | hoooray mythbackend is still going into spinlock |
| [14:24:00] | ** Juski has been a real geek the last few days or so ** | |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | that's a neat idea |
| [14:25:00] | Juski: | scripting, building gadgets.... |
| [14:25:00] | Beirdo: | geek on :) |
| [14:25:00] | Beirdo: | as long as the 12V supply is stable, that should work pretty well |
| [14:25:00] | ivor: | geeks rule the world.... |
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| [14:26:00] | Juski: | Beirdo.. CMRR is very good anyway.. the PSU is well decoupled |
| [14:26:00] | Beirdo: | if some dillhole hooks up 9V instead of 12V, it could give interesting results :) |
| [14:27:00] | Juski: | opamps used are Elantec 2044 |
| [14:27:00] | Beirdo: | don't think I've ever used theirs. |
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| [14:27:00] | Beirdo: | I take it they are decent low-noise? |
| [14:27:00] | Juski: | would've been expensive to make .. 12 amps @ $3.00 each ;) |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | aye carumba |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: good enough for our DVRs |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | make us an ASIC :) |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | analogue ASIC |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | that'd be something |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | mixed-mode... it needs an I2C control module :) |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:28:00] | Juski: | there's been a resurgence in analogue computing, I read |
| [14:29:00] | fryfrog: | tubes are back you say? |
| [14:29:00] | fryfrog: | heck yeah! |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | analogue, not _antique_ |
| [14:29:00] | Beirdo: | tubes have never been out in some circles :) |
| [14:29:00] | Beirdo: | still makes the best amplifiers |
| [14:29:00] | Beirdo: | and they are good as space-heaters too |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | hmmm I beg to differ there. I like my HF audible, thanks |
| [14:29:00] | fryfrog: | amps?? PFFFT, tubes still make the best computers and house heaters!!! |
| [14:30:00] | Beirdo: | Juski, I wasn't referring to ham radio :) |
| [14:30:00] | Beirdo: | guitar amps.. |
| [14:30:00] | Beirdo: | tubes rule |
| [14:30:00] | Juski: | try doing a D-A convert with valves ;) |
| [14:30:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [14:30:00] | Beirdo: | that would be one huge-ass hot DAC |
| [14:31:00] | Juski: | 5.1 channel tube amp... takes 500Watts, and that's just the DAC |
| [14:31:00] | fryfrog: | hhaha |
| [14:31:00] | Beirdo: | well, DAC you can do with resistors anyways |
| [14:31:00] | Beirdo: | it's ADC that gets truly bitchy |
| [14:32:00] | Juski: | well time to go make a little bodge adapter... |
| [14:32:00] | Juski: | afk |
| [14:32:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, why am I still here |
| [14:32:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:32:00] | Beirdo: | seeya, going to work |
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| [14:38:00] | confusi0n: | ok, made a *bit* of progress... wondering if someone could help me? When i run mythbackend i get the initial error... TVRec(1) Error: Start channel invalid, setting to '1' on input MPEG2TS instead. |
| [14:38:00] | confusi0n: | now when mythbackend tries to start livetv, it performs the following database lookup |
| [14:38:00] | confusi0n: | MSqlQuery: SELECT channum + 0 FROM channel,capturecard,cardinput WHERE channel.channum = '1' AND channel.sourceid = cardinput.sourceid AND cardinput.cardid = capturecard.cardid AND capturecard.cardid = 1 AND capturecard.hostname = 'bunnymen' |
| [14:38:00] | confusi0n: | but it finds nothing |
| [14:38:00] | confusi0n: | because everything in the database says MPEG2TS |
| [14:39:00] | confusi0n: | this is despite everything in mythtv-setup pointing to the dbox2 |
| [14:39:00] | confusi0n: | im not sure if this is normal or not |
| [14:39:00] | confusi0n: | but needless to say any attempt at running livetv fails |
| [14:40:00] | confusi0n: | lol |
| [14:40:00] | confusi0n: | any takers? |
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| [14:44:00] | confusi0n: | k, easier question |
| [14:44:00] | confusi0n: | how do i change values in the database using mysql? |
| [14:45:00] | Merlin83b: | Playing in mysql you could mess a lot up... |
| [14:45:00] | Merlin83b: | UPDATE tablename SET columname='value' WHERE somecolumn=somevalue; |
| [14:45:00] | Merlin83b: | In general |
| [14:46:00] | confusi0n: | aye |
| [14:46:00] | confusi0n: | thanks |
| [14:46:00] | defaultro: | good morning guys |
| [14:47:00] | defaultro: | I will have my second tuner soon. I have a question about zap2it. Do I create a new account or do I just add a new channel line up? I've read somewhere that you cannot add the same zip code. Please let me know guys ;) |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | confusi0n: i use phpmyadmin for almost all my mysql stuff. |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | hey laga |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | how are you? |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | hi defaultro :) |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | did you see my post earlier? |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | defaultro: quite good so far, what about you? |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | good good |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | defaultro: on mythtvtalk? |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | nope, here |
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| [14:53:00] | laga: | defaultro: oh, let me check |
| [14:53:00] | defaultro: | it's about the zap2it |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | right |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | defaultro: will your second tuner be hooked up to the same source as the first one? |
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| [14:56:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [14:56:00] | defaultro: | i'm planning to connect it to my comcast cable provider |
| [14:56:00] | defaultro: | but it still can be connected to the same source |
| [14:56:00] | confusi0n: | laga: phpmyadmin? |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | confusi0n: yep, phpmyadmin. |
| [14:57:00] | Krazylegz: | confusi0n: http://www.phpmyadmin.net |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | defaultro: well, dunno then, sorry. i'm not located in the US |
| [14:57:00] | defaultro: | ok :) |
| [14:57:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: you probably missed me saying this yesterday, but UK dbox2 images are crap at network streaming without crashing |
| [14:58:00] | confusi0n: | i was going to have a play, see if i could it working to a reasonable standard |
| [14:58:00] | confusi0n: | has there been no success at all? |
| [14:58:00] | Juski: | I got it working, for all of about 10 mins at a time without the box crashing |
| [14:58:00] | confusi0n: | is it only UK images? |
| [14:58:00] | Juski: | it's not reliable enough IMO |
| [14:58:00] | confusi0n: | whats crashing it? |
| [14:59:00] | Juski: | the httpd daemon by the lok of things |
| [14:59:00] | confusi0n: | aye, ive heard of that |
| [14:59:00] | Juski: | telnetting into the box & executing 'top' gave 99% going to httpd |
| [14:59:00] | confusi0n: | i'd like to have a go anyway, just to be able to play with mythtv a bit, even if for 10 mins |
| [14:59:00] | confusi0n: | brb |
| [15:00:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: firstly, verify the box will actually stream over the network.. try tuxvision etc |
| [15:00:00] | Juski: | I found that if tuxvision worked, so would mythtv |
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| [15:02:00] | defaultro: | anyone here uses nvidia cards? |
| [15:03:00] | Kabutor: | defaultro, not in my mythbox unfortunately |
| [15:03:00] | Kabutor: | but I have it in desktop pc |
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| [15:08:00] | Juski: | I thought this was the #mythtv-users channel, but hey |
| [15:08:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [15:09:00] | Juski: | defaultro: what issues you having? can't install the drivers? can't get TV out to work? what? |
| [15:10:00] | defaultro: | no issues, i would just like to know if PureVideo is supported in linux |
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| [15:10:00] | defaultro: | they have PureVideo drivers for Windows |
| [15:10:00] | stf28: | hello.... does any body have install a dvd card |
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| [15:10:00] | Juski: | not as far as I'm aware of, defaultro |
| [15:10:00] | defaultro: | purevideo takes load of of cpu |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | what's a dvd card? |
| [15:10:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [15:11:00] | stf28: | sorry dvb card |
| [15:11:00] | Juski: | they just announced it at CES, so it's very new anyway. I expect it'll happen at some point though |
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| [15:11:00] | Juski: | infact I don't think the drivers for windows are even released yet |
| [15:12:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [15:13:00] | Juski: | be nice if they released linux drivers first of course.. (like that's ever gonna happen) |
| [15:13:00] | Juski: | stf28: I've got 3.. what's your query? |
| [15:13:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [15:14:00] | defaultro: | how is the performance of XvMC in the latest SVN? |
| [15:15:00] | Juski: | depends on whether or not you have opengl sync enabled ;) |
| [15:16:00] | Juski: | and also what version of drivers you have installed |
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| [15:17:00] | Juski: | i.e. latest drivers, plus openglsync = slow as hell. Older drivers are fine though |
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| [15:18:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [15:21:00] | Juski: | heheh.. I just got me a fast 'scope :) and I didn't have to hurt anybody |
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| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | well done |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | you didn't have to promise any favours I hope |
| [15:24:00] | Juski: | nope |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | good job |
| [15:24:00] | ** Beirdo cues some Jamiroquai ** | |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | this should drown out the RAID arrays being tested in the next cubicle |
| [15:25:00] | sphing_: | lol |
| [15:25:00] | sphing_: | 15k ? |
| [15:26:00] | defaultro: | anyone here using hd5000 card? |
| [15:29:00] | fryfrog: | air2pc? |
| [15:29:00] | fryfrog: | or is that a 3000? |
| [15:29:00] | defaultro: | :) i have air2pc |
| [15:29:00] | defaultro: | 5000 is a newer card |
| [15:29:00] | fryfrog: | i get the hd3000 and hd5000 confused |
| [15:29:00] | fryfrog: | one is air2pc, the other is ummm |
| [15:29:00] | fryfrog: | another company |
| [15:29:00] | defaultro: | i'm thinking between hd5000 and fusion lite |
| [15:29:00] | fryfrog: | i have an air2pc, but i've recently removed it :( |
| [15:30:00] | defaultro: | why? |
| [15:30:00] | Juski: | what's with all the metaquestions today? |
| [15:30:00] | fryfrog: | i have communist cast and it was getting to be a pita to get it all working |
| [15:30:00] | fryfrog: | i finally got it tuning some channels, so i know chan scan works |
| [15:30:00] | fryfrog: | but i was tolazy to get em all IDd and xmlidthinged so i could record |
| [15:30:00] | fryfrog: | card worked nice though |
| [15:31:00] | laga: | Juski: anyone have experiences with metaquestions? |
| [15:31:00] | fryfrog: | only have 3 pci slots, but board won' boot with 3 popluated so i needed to take it out for a 2nd pvr 250 |
| [15:31:00] | fryfrog: | wtf is a meta question? |
| [15:32:00] | laga: | fryfrog: "anyone ever used a pchdtv?", "can i ask you guys a question?" etc |
| [15:32:00] | fryfrog: | I also found a tv antenna WAY the fuck up a tree in my yard, so i may try OTA HD |
| [15:32:00] | stf28: | Juski i dont have any dev with the nexus-s |
| [15:32:00] | laga: | you found an antenna in a tree? |
| [15:32:00] | fryfrog: | well, the cable going up it i had always known about |
| [15:33:00] | fryfrog: | i assumed someone had put a sat dish up there, but didn't see how it could work |
| [15:33:00] | fryfrog: | now that all the leaves are gone... i can see that its a regular old tv antenna |
| [15:33:00] | fryfrog: | of course, my gf is like "oh, you never noticed that??? i knew it was there since we moved in..." :p |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | fryfrog: hehe, nice. reminds me of that HBO commercial where to would have a cable running to the MIR |
| [15:34:00] | fryfrog: | MIR as in, space station yes? |
| [15:34:00] | laga: | that didn't make any sense. |
| [15:34:00] | laga: | fryfrog: yes |
| [15:34:00] | laga: | s/to/they/ |
| [15:34:00] | fryfrog: | i used my IRC -> English translator to interpret a loose meaning :) |
| [15:34:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:34:00] | laga: | fuzzy logic, kinda |
| [15:35:00] | fryfrog: | comes in handy when speaking on the phone with "engrish" speakers :) |
| [15:35:00] | confusi0n: | HI GUYS |
| [15:36:00] | laga: | fryfrog: i think i'm quite good at engrish. ;) |
| [15:36:00] | laga: | confusi0n: HI DUDE. HOW ARE YOU? |
| [15:36:00] | fryfrog: | HI CONFUSION! I missed you! |
| [15:36:00] | confusi0n: | i missed you too |
| [15:36:00] | ** Juski is deaf. confusi0n will need to shout louder ** | |
| [15:36:00] | stf28: | I need help to configure a dvb card nexus-s |
| [15:37:00] | fryfrog: | I wish i could find my favorite picture from engrish.com :/ |
| [15:37:00] | fryfrog: | it says "Crap in hand!" :/ |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:37:00] | confusi0n: | something error happens |
| [15:38:00] | fryfrog: | http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=c . . . e=2003-07-08 |
| [15:38:00] | confusi0n: | sorry for disturb. do you feel ENJOY!!! |
| [15:38:00] | fryfrog: | not quite the one, but funny enough :) |
| [15:38:00] | laga: | confusi0n: parse error. speak english, please |
| [15:39:00] | Juski: | you lucky lucky |
| [15:39:00] | laga: | fryfrog: rotfl |
| [15:40:00] | fryfrog: | I have two i need to show... |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=g . . . e=2002-10-16 bwahaha |
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| [15:40:00] | Juski: | can plese someone tell me how lip DVD? |
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| [15:40:00] | fryfrog: | http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=s . . . e=2005-11-09 |
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| [15:41:00] | fryfrog: | SPOONY! |
| [15:41:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: how's getting the PoS box to work? |
| [15:42:00] | sphing_: | Juski: lip DVD? |
| [15:42:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh dear. |
| [15:43:00] | Juski: | sphing_: res. lip dvd to har Dlive |
| [15:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehee |
| [15:43:00] | sphing_ is now known as sphing | |
| [15:43:00] | ** laga slaps Juski ** | |
| [15:43:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: lol, no end of trouble |
| [15:43:00] | Beirdo: | I think Juski got into the good stuff again |
| [15:43:00] | confusi0n: | cant get livetv to start |
| [15:43:00] | ** sphing is confused ** | |
| [15:43:00] | Juski: | okay I'll stop pretending I'm a jingoistic arse |
| [15:43:00] | fryfrog: | thats okay, livetv is for bitches (and testing) only :) |
| [15:43:00] | Beirdo: | now now |
| [15:43:00] | sphing: | lol |
| [15:44:00] | fryfrog: | engrish.com, rar! |
| [15:44:00] | Juski: | is it friday yet? |
| [15:44:00] | ** laga wonders if someone will go like "hey, watch it. my GF loves livetv" ** | |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | Juski: tuesday :/ |
| [15:44:00] | Beirdo: | or if someone will say "I'm female, what is that supposed to mean?!" |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | haha |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | you wish |
| [15:45:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, I'm sure there's at least one female in here |
| [15:45:00] | confusi0n: | does livetv work in latest svn at _all_? lol |
| [15:45:00] | ** laga looks around suspiciously ** | |
| [15:45:00] | Beirdo: | other than laga of course |
| [15:45:00] | fryfrog: | it works in svn from a week or three ago, at least |
| [15:45:00] | ** laga performs bayesian analysis on /who ** | |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | Beirdo: shut up :) |
| [15:45:00] | fryfrog: | IRC: where the MEN are MEN... and so are most of the women. also, the 12–14 year olds are FBI agents |
| [15:45:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [15:45:00] | confusi0n: | grr |
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| [15:46:00] | confusi0n: | 2006-01–10 15:55:38.311 TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '1' was not found in the database. |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | i wasn't an FBI agent back then ;) |
| [15:46:00] | confusi0n: | Most likely, your DefaultTVChannel setting is wrong. |
| [15:46:00] | confusi0n: | no matter what |
| [15:46:00] | confusi0n: | Could not start livetv. |
| [15:46:00] | confusi0n: | i keep getting this |
| [15:46:00] | confusi0n: | evreything is setup right! :( |
| [15:46:00] | rjune: | fryfrog: welcome to New Zealand, where the men are men, and the sheep are scared |
| [15:46:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: I got that, then dumped the idea of network streaming |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | i think i should start a hiphop career. tellin' peeps bout the hard life on da channels, true dat |
| [15:46:00] | ** Beirdo zaps laga with the cattle prod ** | |
| [15:46:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: you had it working though didn't you? |
| [15:46:00] | Juski: | got a PVR150, made some fancy scripts to do the channel changes |
| [15:46:00] | ** laga moans in enjoyment ** | |
| [15:47:00] | rjune: | sure sure, encourage him |
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| [15:48:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: I might soon have a script to download the channel listing from the dbox, and insert channels into the DB :) |
| [15:49:00] | Juski: | well.. it's only the DB insertions I need to do now |
| [15:49:00] | Beirdo: | goddamned awstats |
| [15:49:00] | Juski: | make it easy for 200+ channels ;) |
| [15:49:00] | Beirdo: | it tosses a setup error, hit reload, it works |
| [15:50:00] | laga: | Juski: sounds cool. would be spiffy if it could download the channel name as well. with some minor adjustments, it could be used with the native dbox support in mythtv then |
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| [15:50:00] | laga: | Beirdo: grep -Ri microsoft awstats/ |
| [15:50:00] | Juski: | laga: my script already gets the channel number, channel 'id' (the one zapto uses) and the name |
| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | nah, it's a perl thing somehow |
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| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | Error: Plugin init for plugin 'decodeutfkeys' failed with return code: Undefined subroutine |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | muh? |
| [15:51:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: that would be wicked |
| [15:51:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: was it you that coded the original dbox patch? |
| [15:51:00] | Juski: | no |
| [15:51:00] | confusi0n: | k |
| [15:51:00] | Juski: | levon did |
| [15:51:00] | confusi0n: | ah |
| [15:52:00] | confusi0n: | so if your script works, would that solve the crashing problem with nhttpd? |
| [15:52:00] | Juski: | I patched the patch to allow selective EPG grabbing |
| [15:52:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: it works alright |
| [15:52:00] | Juski: | all you need is a capture card |
| [15:52:00] | Juski: | and the channels entering into the DB |
| [15:52:00] | confusi0n: | oh ic, so it doesn't stream at all then? |
| [15:52:00] | ** confusi0n onds ** | |
| [15:52:00] | confusi0n: | that would be fantastic |
| [15:52:00] | Juski: | no, therefore it doesn't crash as much |
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| [15:53:00] | confusi0n: | still changes channel via http though? |
| [15:53:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [15:53:00] | Juski: | no nasty IR blaster |
| [15:54:00] | confusi0n: | i was thinking, wouldn't it be possible to have the lirc on the dbox send signals to something on the pvr machine to have mythtv change the channels? |
| [15:54:00] | confusi0n: | so you could use the original remote with the dbox? |
| [15:54:00] | confusi0n: | just an idea like, probably not even possible, lol |
| [15:55:00] | stf28: | I need help to configure a dvb card nexus-s |
| [15:56:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: not really |
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| [15:57:00] | Juski: | stf28: be more specific |
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| [15:59:00] | fryfrog: | could someone point me to a url about wtf a dbox is? |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | sure |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | www.google.com |
| [15:59:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, i had a question earlier. Do I need to add a new lineup in zap2it for my new card? |
| [15:59:00] | mocker_: | Beirdo: Yo. |
| [15:59:00] | fryfrog: | i tried that before |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | not if it uses the same lineup as the old card |
| [15:59:00] | fryfrog: | i need something a little more detailed |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | mocker_: heya. nice _ |
| [15:59:00] | mocker_: | Ack. |
| [15:59:00] | defaultro: | Hey Beirdo, how are you? |
| [15:59:00] | mocker_: | Wonder what the deal is. |
| [16:00:00] | praet: | defaultro: ou can use the existing linup |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | tired, busy, but OK :) |
| [16:00:00] | Juski: | laga, confusi0n: http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/juskizap.tar.bz2 |
| [16:00:00] | defaultro: | is there such line up in zap2it for comcast? |
| [16:00:00] | ** mocker_ | [10:00] Irssi uptime: 124d 16h 14m 21s ** | |
| [16:00:00] | defaultro: | thanks for the reply :D |
| [16:00:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: I think that you would have to build your own line up, using their xmltv ids or something |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | hey, no problem |
| [16:00:00] | defaultro: | and mythtv knows which card to use to record programs assuming it was conflicting previously, right? |
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| [16:00:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: cause as far as I can tell, it doesn't "line up" automagically |
| [16:01:00] | defaultro: | you have to uncheck it in zap2it |
| [16:01:00] | defaultro: | i might get disconnected, f**k |
| [16:01:00] | praet: | defaultro: try zap2it labs and walk through the questions to find available linups in yuor area |
| [16:01:00] | fryfrog: | Probably using the OTA schedule and mapping it to the rigth channel numbers would be the way to go, since there aren't many hd chans besides the big 5 or 11 or what |
| [16:01:00] | defaultro: | i've done that |
| [16:01:00] | t00m: | how do tell nuvexport where the recordings directory is? |
| [16:01:00] | defaultro: | my question was only about the second tuner |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | it asks the database, t00m |
| [16:01:00] | defaultro: | if i need to add a new lineup |
| [16:01:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [16:02:00] | fryfrog: | the problem with zap2it and QAM is that with air2pc, it sooks :? |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | you don't |
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| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | if they have the same lineup, there is no need |
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| [16:02:00] | t00m: | oh, does it? |
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| [16:02:00] | defaultro: | yeah, Beirdo answered it for me :D |
| [16:02:00] | fryfrog: | wait, sorry are you not talking about hdtv? |
| [16:02:00] | mocker: | Beirdo: I just finished deployment of an asterisk call center yesterday. :) |
| [16:02:00] | defaultro: | am just talking about line ups :D |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | nice :) |
| [16:02:00] | fryfrog: | google for dbox returns a lot of stuff, very unrelated to eachother |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | now all the people in India can use VoIP to annoy us :) |
| [16:02:00] | fryfrog: | is dbox a cable box? |
| [16:02:00] | fryfrog: | a software debugger? |
| [16:03:00] | t00m: | Beirdo: which table do i have to change? don't want to switch on tv for 10secs |
| [16:03:00] | mocker: | Flash Operator Panel is awesome. |
| [16:03:00] | defaultro: | so fryfrog, there is comcast lineup in zap2it? |
| [16:03:00] | fryfrog: | "dbox is a multidisciplinary collective encompassing photography, design and creative direction." |
| [16:03:00] | Juski: | dbox2 is a cable box, haxx0r3d to run linux |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | it'd be in settings |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | somewhere |
| [16:03:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: depends on if you mean HDTV or normal cable? |
| [16:04:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [16:04:00] | t00m: | RecordFilePrefix |
| [16:04:00] | t00m: | thx Beirdo |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | that sounds right :) |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [16:04:00] | stf28: | Juski: what's the alias number into the dev folder |
| [16:04:00] | defaultro: | if both but i don't have digital, just regular QAM |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | QAM THIS! |
| [16:04:00] | Juski: | stf28: no idea |
| [16:04:00] | fryfrog: | ap2it does have the HDTV channels |
| [16:04:00] | Juski: | try in #dvb, sft28 |
| [16:04:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [16:05:00] | fryfrog: | but of course, on cable they are like channel 841 but in myth its like 2#56 or something |
| [16:05:00] | stf28: | Juski: what shoud i to to wotrk withc this device !?! |
| [16:05:00] | Juski: | you can have letters in frequency IDs? |
| [16:05:00] | stf28: | Juski: what shoud i to to wotrk with this device !?! |
| [16:06:00] | Juski: | stf28: get some drivers. |
| [16:06:00] | defaultro: | so that means, for comcast, I would have to add a new zip code coz I currently have OTA lineup |
| [16:06:00] | stf28: | Juski: can you be more explicatif |
| [16:07:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: i dunno, i never got my air2pc card working how i wanted |
| [16:07:00] | defaultro: | oh, ouch |
| [16:07:00] | defaultro: | i might be hitting the same wal |
| [16:07:00] | defaultro: | wall |
| [16:07:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: my ideas are just guesses, but it boiled down to creating a new line up with zap2it, running a myth channel scan, then using that new (with hdtv only chans) and editing the DB channel entries |
| [16:08:00] | Juski: | stf28: you need device drivers loaded for the card to work. try googling for a setup guide for your card on your distro of linux |
| [16:08:00] | defaultro: | i just dry ran the zap2it, then i only see the 98 regular channels |
| [16:08:00] | fryfrog: | so i'd manually find that channel 5#2 was ABC HD, then make the channel number 802 to match comcasts |
| [16:08:00] | mocker: | Beirdo: Oh, I had a question that maybe you'll know. Is there any way in Myth to jump specifically to an application? My new remote has keys like 'My Music'. It would be cool to jump right to mythmusic when pressed. |
| [16:08:00] | defaultro: | in my case, i don't have digital comcast |
| [16:08:00] | stf28: | Juski: I kwon i need to use the ttpci but when i do a modprob of this module nothing append |
| [16:08:00] | mocker: | I searched the keys.txt but didn't find anything. |
| [16:08:00] | Beirdo: | mocker: never looked, but I think there's a way to do that |
| [16:08:00] | defaultro: | but i heard back in May last year, we can capture some HD via QAM |
| [16:08:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: the line up you pick in zap2it doesn't matter |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | I just leave my setup with defaults |
| [16:09:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | but I think I heard someone talking about that before |
| [16:09:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: i pick one that has the HDTV chans (that matches), then uncheck EVERYTHING but the hdtv chans... that way its not got much in it |
| [16:09:00] | Juski: | stf28: then maybe your kernel doesn't have that module available. it might be time to roll your own kernel |
| [16:09:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [16:10:00] | defaultro: | so that means, I should select comcast digital in zap2it then uncheck things that I don't need |
| [16:10:00] | fryfrog: | in theory |
| [16:10:00] | fryfrog: | but again, i never finished it :) |
| [16:10:00] | fryfrog: | i was able to tune hdtv in livetv, but had no good lineup bound so it wasn' tused |
| [16:10:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [16:10:00] | fryfrog: | maybe i'll try again in a week or so |
| [16:11:00] | defaultro: | i'll order Fusion HDTV5 Lite version |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, mocker, can't be of much help there |
| [16:11:00] | defaultro: | it's just $99 |
| [16:11:00] | fryfrog: | at first i was going to change the xmltv ids, but now that i think, it ight be easier to just change the channel to the right one |
| [16:11:00] | defaultro: | as compared to my $168 air2pc |
| [16:11:00] | fryfrog: | defaultro: how is driver support, the air2pc's is *IN* the kernel now |
| [16:11:00] | defaultro: | it is in 2.6.15 |
| [16:11:00] | fryfrog: | ah, spiffy |
| [16:11:00] | defaultro: | Lite is much more supported than gold |
| [16:11:00] | defaultro: | but gold works too |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | except that 0.4.0 and 0.4.1 don't compile in 2.6.15 :/ |
| [16:12:00] | defaultro: | the driver is still newer |
| [16:12:00] | defaultro: | what's the 0.4.1? |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | what is the diff between lite and gold? |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | ivtv sorry |
| [16:12:00] | defaultro: | remote control |
| [16:12:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: thanks a lot for that, does it work then? so all i'd need is a general purpose capture card? not a dvb card? if they're inexpensive and this works i will pick one up asap. one question though, if you're taking it to a capture card wont a channel change result in the dbox epg crap showing on the screen rather than mythtv's? |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | do you have pvr250? |
| [16:12:00] | defaultro: | i've never used ivtv |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [16:12:00] | confusi0n: | sorry for th elong post, lol |
| [16:12:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | what tv cards do you use? |
| [16:12:00] | defaultro: | just air2pc |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | bttv? |
| [16:13:00] | defaultro: | i used the dvb |
| [16:13:00] | fryfrog: | i'm confused |
| [16:13:00] | defaultro: | it's just emulation |
| [16:13:00] | fryfrog: | you already have hdtv cards? |
| [16:13:00] | defaultro: | not real dvb |
| [16:13:00] | defaultro: | yep, just one |
| [16:13:00] | defaultro: | but am buying a new one |
| [16:13:00] | fryfrog: | ahhh |
| [16:13:00] | fryfrog: | it recieves hdtv? |
| [16:13:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [16:13:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: PVR cards are da best type to get. I picked upa PVR150 for little over £40 on saturday |
| [16:13:00] | defaultro: | the Lite does NTSC w/ caption, ATSC |
| [16:13:00] | fryfrog: | so why not get the same one? |
| [16:14:00] | defaultro: | air2pc is more expensive |
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| [16:14:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [16:14:00] | defaultro: | i've never heard of a driver support yet |
| [16:14:00] | stf28: | Juski: the modules is loaded i see it but no device attached with them |
| [16:14:00] | Juski: | and you can turn the dbox2 EPG off so it doesn't show on channel changes :) |
| [16:14:00] | Juski: | stf28: I can't help you I'm afraid. try in the #dvb channel |
| [16:15:00] | defaultro: | got a lot of nice plans this year, I'm also buying a refurbished crt projector |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | I plan to get married |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:15:00] | defaultro: | BAM |
| [16:15:00] | defaultro: | ;) |
| [16:16:00] | defaultro: | When is it? |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | May 20 |
| [16:16:00] | defaultro: | Congratulations in advance!!! |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | thanks :) |
| [16:16:00] | laga: | 2 |
| [16:16:00] | laga: | oops |
| [16:17:00] | defaultro: | hi Laga, how's Germany? |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | still German? |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:17:00] | t00m: | wow.. does that matter: yuvdenoise: invalid option — r |
| [16:17:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [16:17:00] | t00m: | doesn't seem to process anything now |
| [16:17:00] | laga: | yeah, i think so. ;) quite dark at the moment, i hater winter |
| [16:18:00] | defaultro: | i couldn't work outside, it's like in high 20s right now |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | t00m: that could be an issue. try without denoising for now :) |
| [16:18:00] | t00m: | actually, seems to be frozen |
| [16:18:00] | defaultro: | but will be leaving soon to go to office |
| [16:18:00] | defaultro: | but glad, it's not windy here in chicago |
| [16:20:00] | t00m: | hm.. is that better? ffmpeg died early.Please use the --debug option to figure out what went wrong. |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | if your yuvdenoise is barfing, best to run without trying to use it ;) |
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| [16:21:00] | t00m: | i did run without denoise this time |
| [16:22:00] | Juski: | hmmm IO_RD is going off too soon.. before the CS bit has even risen |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | you sure the CS has no pullup? |
| [16:24:00] | t00m: | narf |
| [16:24:00] | defaultro: | Ok guys, I'm gonna prepare now for work. Congrats again Beirdo. |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | thanks, defaultro |
| [16:24:00] | defaultro: | fryfrog, let's see each other again here once I get my new card |
| [16:24:00] | defaultro: | later guys |
| [16:24:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: think i'll go the pvr route. where did you pick up your card from? |
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| [16:29:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: you anywhere near Bolton? Scan are the cheapest in the UK (£40.88 inc VAT)... even mail order it's still cheaper than anywhere else |
| [16:30:00] | confusi0n: | yeah i was just looking at scans price |
| [16:30:00] | confusi0n: | the pvr 150? |
| [16:31:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: all the pullups are ok.. there's sometimes not enough time for the strobe signals to settle.. one access has CS0 going up 2nS after IO_RD |
| [16:31:00] | Juski: | PVR150 OEM |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | ow, that's a bit rough :) |
| [16:31:00] | confusi0n: | does it come with a remote or anything? |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | these are GPIO driven from a processor? |
| [16:31:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: comes in a nice anti-static bag with a folder sheet of A4 |
| [16:31:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: part CPU, part CPLD |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [16:32:00] | confusi0n: | lol |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | seems a bit of delay is in order to get the timings right. |
| [16:32:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: needs another wait state I reckon |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | the joy of bit-banging IDE :) |
| [16:32:00] | confusi0n: | right, i need 42 quid |
| [16:32:00] | confusi0n: | ive just called the job centre, but thats going to take weeks |
| [16:32:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: sell your dbox :-D |
| [16:33:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: lol no, whats the point then! :P |
| [16:33:00] | Juski: | ahh.. I see the error in my logic |
| [16:33:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | become a gigolo |
| [16:33:00] | confusi0n: | so your scripts definately work then? lol |
| [16:33:00] | confusi0n: | before i go tinker with a capture card and stuff? |
| [16:33:00] | confusi0n: | mythtv rules, it sucks i cant have it setup tonight |
| [16:33:00] | Juski: | apart from wiping the C: drive on all nearby Windows machines, they're fine |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | hahahah |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [16:34:00] | confusi0n: | right |
| [16:34:00] | Juski: | edit config.txt first.. put your dbox IP addy in there |
| [16:34:00] | confusi0n: | someone send me a pvr card |
| [16:35:00] | confusi0n: | will it do something now juski, with no capture card, so i can have it all setup ready? |
| [16:35:00] | Juski: | thjen use the getchans script.. it'll save a file called chans.txt |
| [16:35:00] | Juski: | then you can use ./dbox2zap with a channel number |
| [16:35:00] | confusi0n: | k |
| [16:36:00] | Juski: | with offset in config.txt set to '50', to get channel 1 you'd do |
| [16:36:00] | kados: | so i bought a hd-3000 pci card a while back because I heard that they would be unavailable after the broadcast flag was passed ... now I've got the card and I'd like to set up a FTA Satellite reciever so I can watch FTA satellite programming ... I've got a directv dish ... anyone know if that will work? |
| [16:36:00] | Juski: | ./dbox2zap 501 |
| [16:36:00] | Juski: | channel 135 would be: ./dbox2zap 50135 |
| [16:36:00] | confusi0n: | aye |
| [16:36:00] | kados: | anyone know if I can do FTA with the hd-3000 even? |
| [16:37:00] | confusi0n: | --16:46:44-- http://0/fb/channellist.dbox2 |
| [16:37:00] | confusi0n: | => `channellist.dbox2' |
| [16:37:00] | confusi0n: | Connecting to 0[0.0.0.0]:80... failed: Connection refused. |
| [16:37:00] | kados: | I'm new to PVR stuff still |
| [16:37:00] | confusi0n: | whats this? |
| [16:37:00] | laga: | 17:34 < Juski> edit config.txt first.. put your dbox IP addy in there |
| [16:37:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: edit the config.txt file so that ip_addr= line has your dbox ip address |
| [16:37:00] | Juski: | e.g. |
| [16:37:00] | Juski: | ip_addr=192.168.100.10 |
| [16:37:00] | confusi0n: | yeah ive done that |
| [16:38:00] | confusi0n: | it saves index.html fine |
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| [16:38:00] | laga: | maybe you're not running the |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | 'right' image |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | i hate this keyboard |
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| [16:39:00] | confusi0n: | yeah, would it matter what web interface i had running? |
| [16:39:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: that'll be why it's not working with mythtv.,.. cos of the shitty S******** image |
| [16:40:00] | laga: | oh. |
| [16:40:00] | laga: | i smell garden gnomes. |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | Neutrino is best |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | garden gnomes? where? |
| [16:41:00] | ** confusi0n nods ** | |
| [16:41:00] | confusi0n: | _right_ |
| [16:41:00] | confusi0n: | so whats a good image to use for the UK then? |
| [16:41:00] | Juski: | some comedian has been fiddling around, messing with stuff that worked well... ricing it up |
| [16:41:00] | confusi0n: | myth compatible, like |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | Juski: s**tc*m |
| [16:41:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: off topic for this channel I'm afraid |
| [16:41:00] | confusi0n: | pm? |
| [16:41:00] | Juski: | nope |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | my smart cards work fine with neutrino |
| [16:42:00] | confusi0n: | fair enough |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | and neutrino is the stuff that's officially supported by mythtv. i think. check the docs. |
| [16:42:00] | Juski: | go for the neutrino webinterface.. the original, and best (and supported) |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | talk of webinterfaces is okay |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | anything else.. eesh |
| [16:44:00] | Juski: | mine's running Y-web (whatever the heck that is) & it works with my script.. and all the code mythtv uses to pull data off the box |
| [16:44:00] | confusi0n: | yeah im running y-web myself, and the neutrino interface |
| [16:44:00] | Juski: | hrm |
| [16:45:00] | confusi0n: | mythtv changes the channels fine, it just doesn't like livetv |
| [16:45:00] | laga: | do recordings work? |
| [16:45:00] | confusi0n: | ive not tried recordings yet, should i? heh |
| [16:45:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: --16:55:21-- http://0/fb/channellist.dbox2 |
| [16:45:00] | Juski: | I tried direct file recording for like 3 months.. got nowhere with that |
| [16:45:00] | confusi0n: | is that right? shouldn't there be an ip in there somewhere? |
| [16:46:00] | Juski: | confusi0n: you edited the config.txt file? |
| [16:46:00] | confusi0n: | yeah |
| [16:46:00] | Juski: | ahh the line reads |
| [16:46:00] | Juski: | address= |
| [16:46:00] | Juski: | so you'd put address=192.168.whatever |
| [16:46:00] | laga: | confusi0n: try it. there's been some brokenness with livetv and dbox in the past. that should be fixed, though |
| [16:46:00] | Juski: | proper IP address format.. with dots |
| [16:47:00] | laga: | Juski: do you plan on incorporating ipv6? |
| [16:47:00] | Juski: | fuck |
| [16:47:00] | Juski: | there's an error in getchans |
| [16:47:00] | Juski: | edit line 3 to say |
| [16:48:00] | Juski: | ip_address=$(grep "address=" config.txt | awk -F "=" {'print $2'}) |
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| [16:49:00] | ** confusi0n nods ** | |
| [16:49:00] | Juski: | that should fixify it :) |
| [16:49:00] | FlashLinux is now known as dougl | |
| [16:49:00] | confusi0n: | you the man |
| [16:49:00] | confusi0n: | so i can easily integrate this script into myth then? |
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| [16:51:00] | Juski: | I need to do a bit more testing on it... it wouldn't work on my system without having the full pathname of the config files when mythtv called it |
| [16:51:00] | confusi0n: | laga: recording resulted in segfault. i didn't think it would work as the dbox plugin constantly says |
| [16:51:00] | confusi0n: | 2006-01–10 17:00:35.938 DBOX#1: EPG finished. Recorder still offline. Continuing EPG scan |
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| [16:52:00] | confusi0n: | Juski: thanks a lot though man, it'll be a great help when i get a pvr card |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | but I've put another line in config.txt for that |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | confusi0n: that's perfectly normal. it scans for EPG since no recording is done |
| [16:52:00] | Juski: | gonan tart it up some more, then it might be worthy of a release, once it's got the channel insertion code in |
| [16:52:00] | confusi0n: | laga: ic. i just scheduled a recording for now, and it segfaulted |
| [16:52:00] | confusi0n: | ill try again |
| [16:53:00] | confusi0n: | right... doing something this time |
| [16:54:00] | confusi0n: | 2006-01–10 17:03:05.115 DBOX#1: Sending Request 'GET /c0a,c2a,caa,cda,20 HTTP/1.0' |
| [16:54:00] | confusi0n: | 2006-01–10 17:03:05.115 DBOX#1: Creating PAT for PMT pid 32. |
| [16:54:00] | confusi0n: | 2006-01–10 17:03:05.198 DBOX#1: No TS header. |
| [16:54:00] | confusi0n: | 2006-01–10 17:03:05.471 DBOX#1: TS header at 42, not in sync. |
| [16:54:00] | confusi0n: | this normal? |
| [16:54:00] | confusi0n: | ive read somewhere about the TS header problem i think |
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| [16:54:00] | laga: | probably |
| [16:55:00] | confusi0n: | hmm, when i try and watch the recording im just getting a blank screen |
| [16:55:00] | confusi0n: | at least somtehings happening though |
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| [16:59:00] | confusi0n: | wow |
| [16:59:00] | confusi0n: | that crashed |
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| [17:00:00] | Juski: | wonder how the UDP code for that platform is coming along... |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | dunno, but i saw levon working on something |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | that might just fix all the ills |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | i should make him come up with something that automagically restarts the dbox if a 0 byte recording is detected. |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | Juski: you sure? |
| [17:02:00] | Juski: | nah.. not sure of anything |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | here, have another one |
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| [17:03:00] | Juski: | I seriously think a PVR card & http script is the way to go though |
| [17:03:00] | Juski: | certainly for me |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | I ran it & it did about 1000 successful channel changes without borking |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | i love the idea of getting the streams fresh off the network |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | no need to re-encode then |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | laga: so do I |
| [17:05:00] | Juski: | can't wait to go home to try my video sender getup |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:05:00] | Juski: | gonna do some experiments with bitrates |
| [17:06:00] | Juski: | and then this weekend, probably pop the pvr150 into the production backend |
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| [17:07:00] | Juski: | not gonna migrate it to ubuntu until I'm fully satisfied it'll just _work_. my test box has been a bit unreliable.. still sometimes boots into 640x480 |
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| [17:07:00] | Baylink: | laga: you mean like Torrents? :-) |
| [17:07:00] | Juski: | Baylink: no! |
| [17:08:00] | Juski: | he means like MPEG-2 TS from his cable receiver, over the network :) |
| [17:08:00] | Baylink: | Where do you think those 175MB/half hour torrents *come* from? :-) |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | shhh |
| [17:09:00] | Baylink: | Wow. Naim just blew it's mind out. |
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| [17:09:00] | Baylink: | This is why IPTV is so unlikely to go mainstream. It's not *about* anti-piracy. It's about 'malignant customer control'. |
| [17:09:00] | Baylink: | Fair use? Pfahhh. |
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| [17:12:00] | Juski: | think this channel needs a word filter |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | Baylink: hehe |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | oh jeez |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | don't get the wankers started, Baylink |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | nah, just an automated trout-slapper |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [17:15:00] | ** laga slaps the trout ** | |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | heya xris |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | awstats hates me |
| [17:15:00] | xris: | Beirdo: :( |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | it drops every frigging line from my postfix logs |
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| [17:16:00] | bronco1: | hello all! |
| [17:16:00] | bronco1: | well I have good new and bad news |
| [17:16:00] | bronco1: | I haven't shot myself yet.. that is the good news |
| [17:16:00] | confusi0n: | ok |
| [17:16:00] | fryfrog: | the bad nes is you you will be sending us all $50 via paypal? |
| [17:16:00] | confusi0n: | recording is working |
| [17:16:00] | laga: | some people in here may consider that to be the bad news. ;) |
| [17:17:00] | confusi0n: | (woohoo) |
| [17:17:00] | confusi0n: | but no livetv |
| [17:17:00] | bronco1: | well the bad... it has been over 2 weeks trying to get myth up and running on fc4! |
| [17:17:00] | bronco1: | and still no worky |
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| [17:17:00] | confusi0n: | someone tell levon to get his arse into gear |
| [17:17:00] | confusi0n: | lol |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | Parsed lines in file: 733 |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | Found 733 dropped records, |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | nice, eh, xris? |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | confusi0n: hehe. |
| [17:17:00] | bronco1: | my issue here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/172402 |
| [17:18:00] | bronco1: | FC4 seems to have some major issues with Qt |
| [17:18:00] | confusi0n: | no. seriously. |
| [17:18:00] | confusi0n: | tell him. |
| [17:18:00] | confusi0n: | heh |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | FC4 has issues |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | move on |
| [17:18:00] | confusi0n: | :D |
| [17:18:00] | bronco1: | :- |
| [17:18:00] | bronco1: | :-( |
| [17:18:00] | Juski: | like lemmings to the clifftop.. ;) |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | ah, it was fun to do that |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | confusi0n: well, he's lurking here, but probably afk. |
| [17:20:00] | bronco1: | so what is the most "popular" distro for myth that the developers use? |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | many developers are using debian and derivatives |
| [17:21:00] | bronco1: | I know, I know a newb question but it would be nice to have a system that is more likely to be compatible |
| [17:21:00] | bronco1: | yeah, I was thinking of going to debian |
| [17:21:00] | kcody: | gentoo worked pretty smoothly |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | but you SHOULD be able to get it working in any distro that ain't borked |
| [17:21:00] | bronco1: | heh, I guess FC4 is borked for the moment |
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| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | seems that way |
| [17:22:00] | praet: | you are running fc4_64? |
| [17:22:00] | bronco1: | I couldn't even boot the installer DVD after I installed! It would freeze at the searching for existing Fc4 distros... |
| [17:22:00] | bronco1: | praet: I wouldn't quite call it "running" but yes |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, the sign of a quality release |
| [17:22:00] | kcody: | but all the l33t h4x0rz say that fedora's the nu++z! lol |
| [17:22:00] | ** Beirdo slaps kcody with a trout ** | |
| [17:23:00] | confusi0n: | livetv can suck my ass |
| [17:23:00] | kcody: | heh... let me get a grill going and i'll thank ya Beirdo |
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| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | ok the hell with awstats for postfix logs |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | pflogsumm works |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | just not pretty output |
| [17:24:00] | bronco1: | praet: on a clean install mythtv-setup craps out because it cannot find the qt-mysql driver which is definately there |
| [17:26:00] | confusi0n: | im just gunna keep compiling svn daily until everything works |
| [17:26:00] | bronco1: | I would like to learn how linux works from the "ground up" as a system... |
| [17:26:00] | kcody: | svn's playing live for me, it's the media library that's giving me shit. |
| [17:26:00] | kcody: | bronco1: then build one ground up... do a gentoo bootstrap |
| [17:26:00] | bronco1: | anyone have links for a howto modules or "drivers" work in linux |
| [17:27:00] | confusi0n: | its the dbox2 livetv thats fucked for me |
| [17:27:00] | confusi0n: | there seems to have been quite a few updates since the other day though |
| [17:27:00] | confusi0n: | so im emerging again |
| [17:27:00] | kcody: | ahh, i'm using xv output with drm timing – ati r300 driver |
| [17:27:00] | kcody: | wait, dbox2? is that an input device? |
| [17:27:00] | confusi0n: | outputs fine |
| [17:27:00] | confusi0n: | yeah |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | if you want to know how linux works from the ground up, use LFS :) |
| [17:27:00] | confusi0n: | wow |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | you will have no choice |
| [17:27:00] | confusi0n: | i did that once |
| [17:28:00] | confusi0n: | i was bed ridden after an operation |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | gentoo "simplifies" things |
| [17:28:00] | confusi0n: | took me ages, and ive forgotten mostly everything |
| [17:28:00] | confusi0n: | lol |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | it's a learning experience for sure |
| [17:28:00] | kcody: | Beirdo: true |
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| [17:28:00] | confusi0n: | i dont think you learn _loads_ though with lfs, coz you're just following instructions. i think you need to be a bit more involved for things to sink in permanently |
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| [17:29:00] | kcody: | of course, LFS is most appropriate when you're planning to build it, run it awhile, then wipe it... 'revdep-rebuild' is the only reason a gentoo system can endure time. |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:30:00] | Silence_: | any experiences with the AverMedia M150-D tv tuner? I'm debating between building a system or buying, if I buy this card would be included. |
| [17:30:00] | kcody: | of course, that's a good brick wall to hit your head on if you're trying to -learn- |
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| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | OK, use LFS, and toss out the instructions :) |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | or gentoo with no web access and no printed docs |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | that should be instructive :) |
| [17:31:00] | kcody: | ;) |
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| [17:31:00] | kcody: | learn plenty that's for sure... including exactly what your frustration limit is |
| [17:31:00] | adante: | anybody else getting the stuttering-after-seek problem? |
| [17:32:00] | kcody: | adante: had something similar for a while, esp. if you include starting a stream as 'seeking' |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | kcody: yup. and what kinda dent a baseball bat can leave in a monitor |
| [17:32:00] | kcody: | Beirdo: dent? really? someone come up with a monitor that won't crack? lol |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | OK, time for me to get lunch |
| [17:32:00] | adante: | kcody: how'd ya get rid of it or did it just go away? |
| [17:33:00] | kcody: | adante: updated my graphics driver chain to most recent DRI cvs, disabled --opengl-sync in myth |
| [17:33:00] | kcody: | it was royally fucked with opengl-sync, had the stuttering problem with RTC sync, and works smoothly with DRM sync |
| [17:33:00] | Juski: | hmm.. setup time for a valid address to IO_read cycle is 25ns.. we've got -50ns.. i.e. they overlap... oh how I'll laugh when all this is over |
| [17:34:00] | kcody: | adante: not applicable if you're using XvMC |
| [17:34:00] | kcody: | anyone else having beefs with dpms? |
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| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | kcody: I disable all that stuff, so nope, no beefs with it ;) |
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| [17:36:00] | kcody: | GreyFoxx: ;) the way i read the code, if DPMS support is available to X, myth uses it |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I've only looked at the ScreenSaverX11 stuff once, but I've always disabled dpms stuff as soon as X starts |
| [17:37:00] | kcody: | disabled it how? by setting the timers to zero, or by disabling dpms? |
| [17:38:00] | kcody: | where disable means basically an xset dpms disable |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | right in my .xinitrc |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, precisely |
| [17:38:00] | kcody: | and you've never had it mysteriously reactivate itself? |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't like any screenblanking, powering down drives or any other crap that a pc can do for you |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | kcody: Not once , ever |
| [17:39:00] | kcody: | love to know how that happened... the way the code reads, if the extension is present, the DPMSEnable and DPMSDisable calls get sent regardless of the startup configuration |
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| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | All I can tell ya is that I've never had it reactivate on any of my machines |
| [17:40:00] | kcody: | it -should- only happen if you watch a stream, go back to the menus, then leave it there without exiting |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | My myth boxes run 24/7 |
| [17:40:00] | adante: | hmm, thanks for the advice kcody.. seems odd that it would be a graphics card problem but i'll give it a go |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | and most of that time they are at the menu after having watched a video |
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| [17:41:00] | kcody: | adante: not a card issue, an output control issue... trying to fix drift that isn't real |
| [17:41:00] | adante: | kcody: i see |
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| [17:42:00] | adante: | i *can* use xvmc, but i don't.. find it slows down/messes up seeking, and don't like what it does to the osd |
| [17:42:00] | kcody: | GreyFoxx: are you giving an 'xset s ???' command as well as an xset dpms disable? |
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| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | xset s off |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | before the call to the window manager |
| [17:42:00] | kcody: | GreyFoxx: that's the difference, you're disabling dpms by zeroing the timer |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | in fact, in my current configs all I'm doing is xset s off, I use to reference dpms directly, but xset s off did the trick so that's all I use |
| [17:44:00] | kcody: | 'xset dpms disable' should be sufficient (according to spec) but myth doesn't check for 'disable' at startup |
| [17:44:00] | kcody: | and with the xset s off, the xset dpms disable becomes superfluous |
| [17:44:00] | kcody: | for your setup, myth is still 'DPMSDisable' and 'DPMSEnable' whenever you enter or exit a stream |
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| [17:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Doesn't myth log something to the console when it does that? I remember seenng that message once, but I haven't seen it in forever |
| [17:45:00] | kcody: | GreyFoxx: should say 'DPMS Enabled', 'DPMS Disabled'. Doesn't happen if you actually remove the DPMS extension from xorg.conf. |
| [17:46:00] | kcody: | see the patch i put in trac for what the correct behavior should be |
| [17:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't get that message, but then I don't have a DPMS option in my x config either |
| [17:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I saw that |
| [17:47:00] | kcody: | think it'll make it in? i'll need it to implement a proper energy star control panel |
| [17:47:00] | kcody: | (that was not a plug to get you to commit it, it was a request for opinion) |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wasn't it rejected? I could totally be thinking of another one |
| [17:48:00] | kcody: | there was one that added a simple wakeup event to all LIRC keypresses, that one was (and should have been) rejected |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | That the one about lirc wakeups ? |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok, that's what I meant |
| [17:48:00] | kcody: | i'm talking about ticket 982 |
| [17:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh I see it now |
| [17:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had skimmed and forgot it as I was reading through them this morning :) |
| [17:49:00] | kcody: | ;) you're reading a search for new tickets? or are you getting digests? |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | no I dislike digest, I get individual messages for everything that does into trac/svn |
| [17:50:00] | ** kcody nods. ** | |
| [17:51:00] | kcody: | got to run for now, boss just yelled at me for taking too long a lunch. |
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| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | my boss is overseas right now |
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| [17:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | my boss lives and works in another country |
| [17:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I only speak to her an hour a week for a weekly meeting :P) |
| [17:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | and even that is usually 20 minutes :) |
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| [18:03:00] | kcody: | here's to Alt-F9. |
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| [18:08:00] | a1fa: | yo |
| [18:08:00] | a1fa: | is it worth buying a cheap EDTV |
| [18:08:00] | a1fa: | with DVI input? |
| [18:08:00] | kormoc: | if you want a dvi edtv, sure |
| [18:08:00] | a1fa: | what is the maximum resolution 1024x768? |
| [18:09:00] | a1fa: | i want to play counter-strike on that bad boy |
| [18:09:00] | a1fa: | heheh |
| [18:09:00] | a1fa: | no-zoom-awp-(whore) |
| [18:09:00] | kormoc: | http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/plasmatv-edtv.html |
| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | or in other words, 852x480 |
| [18:10:00] | a1fa: | what? |
| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | Good article to describe differences: http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915.html |
| [18:10:00] | kormoc: | edtv is not hdtv |
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| [18:11:00] | a1fa: | right |
| [18:11:00] | a1fa: | edtv is a stepdown |
| [18:11:00] | kormoc: | yes, thus why it's not hdtv res |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | this sucks |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | 852x480 |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | for EDTV |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | i almost bought a 42" plazma EDTV last night |
| [18:12:00] | kormoc: | well, then it almost sucks, given you didn't buy it |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | yeah |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | i cant believe it supports this lame resolution |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | 852x480 |
| [18:13:00] | a1fa: | so i need to buy a 42" HDTV plazma |
| [18:13:00] | a1fa: | which cost like what? |
| [18:13:00] | kormoc: | 6k to 8k or so |
| [18:14:00] | a1fa: | fuck |
| [18:14:00] | a1fa: | i cant afford that |
| [18:14:00] | a1fa: | but i can afford that 42" edtv |
| [18:14:00] | a1fa: | plazma |
| [18:15:00] | sosumi: | you play cs in wine? |
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| [18:15:00] | a1fa: | why would i do that |
| [18:15:00] | a1fa: | i have a dedicated gaming box |
| [18:15:00] | sosumi: | my dedicated gaming box is called ps2/xbox |
| [18:15:00] | kormoc: | sosumi, I play cs in cedega |
| [18:15:00] | sosumi: | :) |
| [18:16:00] | a1fa: | how is XBOX360 looking on HDTV? |
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| [18:17:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | WinTV-PVR-usb2 supported yet ? |
| [18:18:00] | ** sosumi shrugs ** | |
| [18:18:00] | kcody: | so EDTV would be useful if you drove an NTSC capture at 852x480. |
| [18:18:00] | kcody: | is it widescreen? |
| [18:19:00] | a1fa: | yeah |
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| [18:20:00] | Juski: | time to go |
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| [18:23:00] | a1fa: | time to go to lunch |
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| [18:35:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/programming/pvrusb2.html <-- this says it works |
| [18:35:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html <---- this says it doesnt work |
| [18:39:00] | kormoc: | well, one would beleive the offical myth docs... |
| [18:39:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | indeed |
| [18:39:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | unless they are out of date |
| [18:40:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | ^^^ happens a lot |
| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | "The developement driver for the V4L interface of kernel-2.6 can be found here" |
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| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | that would say it's a unstable driver |
| [18:40:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
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| [18:40:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | if its V4L then it "just works" ? |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | in theory |
| [18:41:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | yeah "development", but things move very quickly.. and likely his own docs are even out of date |
| [18:41:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | ^^^ happens a lot also ;-) |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | if you don't ming having your mythbox randomly not work, then go for it |
| [18:42:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | hah, thats what computers are for 8-) |
| [18:42:00] | ** SteveWrightNZ ducks ** | |
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| [18:46:00] | Jazon: | i run debian... is there a nice, simple way to install mythtv (ATI x300, P4 3.2, 1.5 GB ram) |
| [18:47:00] | laga: | Jazon: marillat's packages? |
| [18:47:00] | Jazon: | my bad.... I meant to say Hi! first.... |
| [18:47:00] | Jazon: | laga: where do i find that? |
| [18:47:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | |
| [18:48:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | same place you find everything |
| [18:48:00] | confusi0n: | TVRec(1) Error: Channel: '1' was not found in the database. |
| [18:48:00] | confusi0n: | WHY GOD WHY |
| [18:48:00] | ** confusi0n pulls his hair out ** | |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | Jazon: google :) |
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| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | someone want to add the /etc/apt/source lines for that onto the FAQ wiki? |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | Beirdo: do it yourself, slacker ;). you may find an example in trac |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | eat me :) |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | I'm at work |
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| [18:51:00] | SteveWrightNZ: | heres my answer USB2 answer "Several people have since tested this driver against MythTV and are reporting success." which is good enough for me.. l8rz, noobs 8-) |
| [18:51:00] | ** _willcooke_ updates the wiki ** | |
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| [18:51:00] | _willcooke_: | the marillat sources yeah? |
| [18:52:00] | Jusk1: | are people allowed to update the wiki now? |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | righto |
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| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | Jusk1: I meant the FAQ wiki linked in the topic |
| [18:52:00] | Jusk1: | ah |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | and it's always been editable by anyone who registers |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | wiki should be open now. |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | wiki.mythtv.org |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | the one in the topic is meant to be a FAQ for this channel |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | and the debian sources is becoming an FAQ :) |
| [18:53:00] | ** _willcooke_ is on it ** | |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | Thanks, _willcooke_ :) |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | then we can tell people "read the FAQ" |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | then if they can't figure it out, there's still gooooogle |
| [18:54:00] | Coume: | Beirdo, the FAQ wiki will not get consolidated with the wiki.mythtv.org? |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | it might at some point, but we currently haven't planned that out |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | consolidation gooooood. |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | there are content licensing issues to deal with first. Like an idiot, I put GFDL as a license |
| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | gfdl? |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | yeah, GFDL. so did i. |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | so technically, to change it, we need the permission of everyone who has current content on there |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | and that will take time |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | right. |
| [18:55:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh, hold on... I'm editing this page....http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions |
| [18:55:00] | _willcooke_: | is that the right place? |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | good place for it |
| [18:56:00] | Coume: | eheh :) |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | i should restrict editing to registered people now |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | not the one I meant, but much of the content in the channel's FAQ will be migrating there |
| [18:56:00] | Coume: | yep laga... also avoid spammers bot... |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | Coume: i've added a spam block extension. |
| [18:57:00] | Coume: | eheh good laga :) |
| [18:57:00] | xpis (i=zzxc@cpe-71-65-48-5.insight.res.rr.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | actually, restricting edits to registered people will render it useless, but who cares |
| [18:57:00] | ** _willcooke_ reads the mediawiki manual ** | |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | how so, laga? |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | they will just need to register to edit |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | that's not useless |
| [18:58:00] | Coume: | why laga? |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | Beirdo: well, i've never heard of spambots who register |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | I have |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | they hit mine once in a while |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | ok. it can stay then :) |
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| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | either that or dickholes who spam by hand |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | awefully hard to tell the difference |
| [18:58:00] | Coume: | yep laga, the spam bot are quite clever... why do u think they added the visual comfirmation to create an account on phpbb :) |
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| [18:59:00] | laga: | Beirdo: well, go and check the spam block extensions. it's just a black list, bu i think it automagically gets the wikipedia one which should be rather 'complete' |
| [18:59:00] | laga: | Coume: hehe. |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | I'll have to look later :) |
| [19:00:00] | laga: | Beirdo: and it took me only half an hour to install it. you should be able to do that in like 5 minutes :) |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | 5 minutes I don't have :) |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:00:00] | laga: | gee, it's wgetting three files and putting two lines into index.php |
| [19:00:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, done, hows that look? |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | laga: silly boy, I'm at work :) |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | looks like the blacklist doesn't get automagically replaced here. darn. anyways, that's OT here |
| [19:01:00] | jarango: | I am a newbie and need some help. I have just install the mythtv packages on a Debian system, logged in as 'mythtv' user and executed 'mythtv-setup'. I also execute '/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start'd'. What is the next step ? |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | Beirdo: and they let you stay in #mythtv-users then? ;) |
| [19:01:00] | _willcooke_: | on, except that's not the marillat myth... oops |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [19:01:00] | laga: | jarango: read the docs at www.mythtv.org |
| [19:02:00] | jarango: | laga: Please help |
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| [19:02:00] | laga: | jarango: RTFM. |
| [19:03:00] | Coume: | jarango, without being a sarcastic... if you read the docs you got the answer |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/WAF *snicker* |
| [19:03:00] | jarango: | I just want a quick start |
| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | jarango, the docs on the site are the quick start |
| [19:04:00] | laga: | jarango: and we'd like you to invest some time first by reading the docs. |
| [19:05:00] | laga: | they are there for a purpose |
| [19:05:00] | Coume: | and if you try to go too fast without researching a bit you will never manage to get a working box, while taking some time before to start will help you lots of time... |
| [19:06:00] | jarango: | laga: So what kind of questions can I ask here ? |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | jarango: well, you can ask the questions you still have after reading the docs. |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | you can ask ANY questions |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | but many will be answered with RTFM |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | right. but you might get yelled at. |
| [19:06:00] | ** laga clears throat ** | |
| [19:06:00] | jarango: | attitude |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you, sir, are a smart-ass BTW :) |
| [19:07:00] | laga: | jarango: yeah, yours. |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | yes I am |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | better a smartass than a dumbass |
| [19:07:00] | ** laga feels out-smarted ** | |
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| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | jarango, basically, we sit here all day and answer questions for free to be helpful to people |
| [19:07:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [19:07:00] | Coume: | this should become a IRC faq :) |
| [19:07:00] | Coume: | Beirdo you can ask ANY questions |
| [19:07:00] | Coume: | Beirdo but many will be answered with RTFM |
| [19:07:00] | laga: | and we use skype to read the documentation to them |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [19:08:00] | xpis: | Is anyone here familiar with TV Guide On Screen/GuidePlus+? |
| [19:08:00] | kormoc: | jarango, most questions are answered in the docs, so we point to them a lot, as we have our jobs and lives to do as well |
| [19:08:00] | laga: | Coume: it should read "you can ask beirdo any question, but many will be answered with RTFM by him" ;) |
| [19:08:00] | laga: | scnr :) |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | or "ask google" |
| [19:08:00] | _willcooke_: | Hmmm. I thought Marillat had packages for Myth, but it appears not... |
| [19:08:00] | Coume: | Beirdo, I'm doing a therapy on my colleague... "Google is your friend!" |
| [19:09:00] | Coume: | they don't seem to realize all that u can find on google.. |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | google is also your enemy |
| [19:09:00] | fryfrog: | google is where i get all my hookers and blow |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | nah, that's from your congressman |
| [19:10:00] | JeffATL: | me, i've been looking at http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.4 for info about X resolutions to use in order to get an s-video out that my tv will accept |
| [19:10:00] | _willcooke_: | Ah, only for sid... |
| [19:11:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: for sid, it has |
| [19:11:00] | JeffATL: | 640x480 and 800x600 don't seem to fly – i can get *console* to show up on the TV via s-video though |
| [19:12:00] | confusi0n: | if i post a question on the mythtv-dev mailing list |
| [19:12:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, got it, OK. Is that FAQ entry ok? |
| [19:12:00] | confusi0n: | will i get spat on and drowned in my own own piss? |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: i actually wonder why he only has them for sid. mythtv works spiffily with sarge as well |
| [19:12:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, I thought so to |
| [19:12:00] | JeffATL: | confusi0n: no – just pissed on and drowned in your own spit :) |
| [19:12:00] | JeffATL: | (kidding) |
| [19:12:00] | confusi0n: | lol |
| [19:13:00] | confusi0n: | no really, is it a question friendly mailing list? |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: that entry looks good. i can't verify it, though, since i only run sarge and ubuntu |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh :) |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | confusi0n: might start with -users first and after two days move on to -dev or so :) |
| [19:13:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, Likewise – oh well! If it isn't someone can fix it! ;p |
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| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | laga: just found me a problem with postfix under ubuntu |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: yeah, that's the wiki attitude. :) |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | breezy to be exact |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | they put qmgr into a chroot, but no syslog socket in the chroot |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | so qmgr can't log |
| [19:14:00] | JeffATL: | don't do what i do and keep going to #mythtv and asking luser questions by accident |
| [19:14:00] | laga: | Beirdo: sounds good. :) i have tried setting up some email stuff under linux but i'm just not that comfortable with it ;) |
| [19:14:00] | _willcooke_: | I've got another entry for the wiki actually........ |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | which totally borks the logging :) |
| [19:14:00] | laga: | Beirdo: file a bug? ;) |
| [19:14:00] | _willcooke_: | not really a FAQ though |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | maybe |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | so now pflogsumm will get the message sizes. YAY |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [19:15:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, OH! http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installi . . . n_Debian_Sid |
| [19:15:00] | ** laga really should get into networking ** | |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | just took qmgr outta the chroot, was the easiest |
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| [19:15:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, oh, that's svn |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: so? it's svn :) |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [19:15:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | i could extend that page and add information on how to roll packages from SVN. maybe i'll come around to that after our consolidation funniness |
| [19:19:00] | ** Beirdo burps ** | |
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| [19:22:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: working on my PPC box right now. |
| [19:22:00] | Cardoe: | then we're gonna have a Gentoo 0.19 SVN snapshot. |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:23:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: wha? |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | looking for ways to graph email flow in cacti now ;) |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | you said "gentoo" |
| [19:23:00] | Cardoe: | cacti? |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:23:00] | Cardoe: | thx ;) |
| [19:23:00] | Coume: | Cardoe, sounds good :) |
| [19:24:00] | CygnusX1: | Does anyone happen to have an nvidia xorg.conf configured such that you can "use the computer" on a monitor and run mythfrontend on a TV? |
| [19:24:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: well since jarod has ignored my patches to 0-18-fixes to make it work with modular X... |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | maybe he's busy |
| [19:24:00] | Cardoe: | probably |
| [19:24:00] | Cardoe: | so I'm just gonna snap 0.19 |
| [19:25:00] | Cardoe: | since Chutt said that's a better idea anyway |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | OK :) |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | I ain't gonna argue with him |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | and I just use svn up anyways |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:27:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: as a packager its kinda tough to support infinite code combos |
| [19:27:00] | Cardoe: | hence a snapshot |
| [19:27:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [19:27:00] | praet: | CygnusX1: never seen that.. |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | I'm still allowed to be a prick sometimes :) |
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| [19:29:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: heh |
| [19:29:00] | Cardoe: | I still need a long bracket for a PVR-150 LP |
| [19:29:00] | CygnusX1: | praet, Let me qualify that a bit...I might have asked too much. I don't need to use both at once...but, I want to be able th use the computer on the monitor and when I am ready to watch some TV, fire up mythfrontend and send it to the TV. |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, can't help ya there |
| [19:31:00] | Cardoe: | damnit |
| [19:31:00] | Cardoe: | so I upgraded initscripts |
| [19:31:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: why not just buy a PVR-150 ? |
| [19:31:00] | Cardoe: | and I know I didn't change back the settings that makes it automatically say -y to fsck |
| [19:31:00] | Cardoe: | eiggirC: because I have a PVR-150 LP |
| [19:31:00] | Cardoe: | because I'm a poor college student |
| [19:31:00] | Cardoe: | so if ya wanna get me one ;) |
| [19:32:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: simile |
| [19:32:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [19:32:00] | eiggirC: | you could get a normal slot cover |
| [19:33:00] | eiggirC: | and drill holes |
| [19:33:00] | eiggirC: | its not like the covers are in short supply |
| [19:33:00] | jarango: | What is the command to consifure the frontend ? |
| [19:33:00] | eiggirC: | how good are you with your hands cardoe? |
| [19:33:00] | Cardoe: | eiggirC: if I had a drill |
| [19:33:00] | Cardoe: | I'll do it sometime when I can go home. |
| [19:33:00] | fryfrog: | what man is w/o a drill? |
| [19:33:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: you'd need a drill press, and probably a dremel too |
| [19:34:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: in fact a workshop |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: a college student with a small apartment? |
| [19:34:00] | fryfrog: | bah! |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | like I said... when I go home. |
| [19:34:00] | fryfrog: | excuses :) |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | plus |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | it's a lot easier to bitch |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | and hope that someone knows where I can aquire one |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [19:34:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: in the meantime – get funky with cable ties |
| [19:35:00] | Cardoe: | eiggirC: around the coax in through the screw hole? |
| [19:35:00] | Cardoe: | nothing but net? |
| [19:36:00] | eiggirC: | I'd suggest taking the low profile bracket off and store it |
| [19:36:00] | eiggirC: | then see if you can use cable ties / slip ties to hold the card in |
| [19:37:00] | jarango: | What is the 'mythtv' executable for ? |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | jarango: starts mythtv in livetv mode |
| [19:37:00] | eiggirC: | and for playing local media |
| [19:38:00] | Cardoe: | eiggirC: the LP bracket is off |
| [19:38:00] | laga: | really? like mythtv somefile.mpg? |
| [19:38:00] | Cardoe: | otherwise it wouldn't fit in the slot |
| [19:38:00] | eiggirC: | laga: yeah |
| [19:38:00] | jarango: | laga: thks, how about mythfrontend ? |
| [19:38:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: you could also use the cables to help hold the card in place. Fasten the cables to your desk or something |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | jarango: did. you. read. the. docs? |
| [19:39:00] | jarango: | laga: yes |
| [19:40:00] | Cardoe: | eiggirC: desk? |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | jarango: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.1 |
| [19:40:00] | Cardoe: | getting a bit nuts. |
| [19:40:00] | jarango: | laga: I am using debian packages so somethings are a bit different |
| [19:40:00] | Cardoe: | I'm just very gentle with it |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | jarango: fourth entry there. |
| [19:40:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, Jusk1, anyone else > Can you quickly glance at this for me http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installi . . . buntu_Breezy |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | jarango: things are not a bit different. things should be the same, actually. |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | jarango: except for a few messages changed, i think. |
| [19:41:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: gentle is good |
| [19:41:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: wow, did you just hack that up? |
| [19:42:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, Yeah, I've had the list for a couple of weeks, just waiting for somewhere to put it |
| [19:42:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: nice. why do you need the kernel headers? |
| [19:43:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, dunno! Good point. I'm confused now! |
| [19:43:00] | ** _willcooke_ tries to remember why they are there ** | |
| [19:43:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: probably nvidia driver or ivtv. |
| [19:44:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, Ahh, yes nvidia drivers prolly |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | though i can't install linux-headers on my system. at least not last time i checked. i need to investigate again, i think |
| [19:44:00] | _willcooke_: | shall I leave it in, or take it out? Cant hurt really |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | make a note about how it's useful for ivtv/nvidia etc |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | jarango, you should run myth via the mythfrontend executable |
| [19:45:00] | _willcooke_: | done |
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| [19:45:00] | _willcooke_: | Can I link this in to the knowledge base? |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | i'd think so |
| [19:46:00] | jarango: | kormoc: thanks |
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| [19:48:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, all done. Off to cook some dinner |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | :) |
| [19:49:00] | jarango: | When I run 'mythfrontend' and user 'myth' it works fine. However, when I run it as another user it says it cannot connect to the database. What do I need to do ? |
| [19:50:00] | a1fa: | ~.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:50:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, copy .mythtv/mysql.txt to your users home |
| [19:50:00] | a1fa: | ~.mythtv/mysql.txt <-- create that file |
| [19:50:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: thanks |
| [19:52:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: The is no such file on mythtv user's home directory |
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| [19:55:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, really?? Erm..... |
| [19:55:00] | _willcooke_: | alfa, any ideas? |
| [19:56:00] | a1fa: | what was the question? |
| [19:57:00] | _willcooke_: | alfa, jarango says there is not .mythtv/mysql.txt file in the myth users home |
| [19:57:00] | a1fa: | /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:57:00] | jarango: | a1fa: If I run mythfrontend as another user besides mythtv it wont connect to the database |
| [19:58:00] | a1fa: | /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:58:00] | a1fa: | ~ means home dir |
| [19:58:00] | a1fa: | ls ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:58:00] | a1fa: | foo |
| [19:59:00] | jarango: | The only thing in /home/mythtv/.mythtv is "themecache" |
| [20:01:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [20:02:00] | a1fa: | check /etc/mythtv/ |
| [20:02:00] | a1fa: | find / -name "mysql.txt" |
| [20:02:00] | a1fa: | negour, please |
| [20:02:00] | a1fa: | use common sence then |
| [20:02:00] | a1fa: | use those unix-tools |
| [20:02:00] | a1fa: | like they are god given |
| [20:03:00] | jarango: | a1fa: Yes, its in /etc/mythtv |
| [20:03:00] | a1fa: | there you go |
| [20:03:00] | a1fa: | ;P |
| [20:03:00] | a1fa: | why you busting my nuts |
| [20:06:00] | jarango: | a1fa: Thanks, why isn't the system fetching it from /etc/mythtv/ ? |
| [20:08:00] | jarango: | I have a list of videos that I want to watch with mythvideo plugin. Is this added through the backend or frontend configuration ? |
| [20:08:00] | Jusk1: | wooo! my cat5 video sender is in place & works brilliantly now I've established one of my network sockets was wired wrongly |
| [20:09:00] | Jusk1: | just need to wire up the scart sockets, put the circuit boards in their boxes and I'm done |
| [20:10:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, Cool! what sort of video are you sending? svideo? |
| [20:10:00] | Jusk1: | just composite for now.. bloody good though |
| [20:10:00] | Jusk1: | good as a direct connection |
| [20:10:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, what sort of range? |
| [20:10:00] | Jusk1: | dammit... didn't want to zap to channel four right now.. they're sifting thru someone's poo |
| [20:11:00] | _willcooke_: | eurgh |
| [20:11:00] | Jusk1: | _willcooke_ I tested it over 300m of cat5 today & there was barely any difference – good to 6.5Mhz |
| [20:11:00] | _willcooke_: | WOW! |
| [20:11:00] | jarango: | How do I configure mythvideo plugin ? |
| [20:11:00] | Jusk1: | over 600m it looked like it'd been on VHS |
| [20:11:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, use the setup screen |
| [20:11:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, are you using just one pair |
| [20:12:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: On the frontend or backend ? |
| [20:12:00] | Jusk1: | bear in mind though, that it doesn't have any compensation for high frequency losses either |
| [20:12:00] | Jusk1: | using all 4 pairs.. svideo takes 2 pairs.. stereo audio the other two |
| [20:13:00] | Jusk1: | I'll take a screenshot soon |
| [20:13:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, frontend. For videos, copy the to the mythtv movies directory (by default "movies" I think) then in the fronend go to setup, then video manager. That should refresh the list, then you can "watch videos" and they should all appear |
| [20:13:00] | Jusk1: | well maybe tomorrow |
| [20:13:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, :) Audio as well eh! Nice! |
| [20:13:00] | Jusk1: | not any cop without audio |
| [20:13:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, could you lob in another cat5 with the power for your frontend box? |
| [20:14:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: Thanks much |
| [20:14:00] | Jusk1: | I could pass power to the box with some decoupling componentry |
| [20:14:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, Eeek! Sounds like that could end up with a funny smell |
| [20:14:00] | Jusk1: | without losing any pairs |
| [20:14:00] | ** _willcooke_ built a POE for his wifi ** | |
| [20:15:00] | Jusk1: | that's how they do the cat5 senders which pass remote signals |
| [20:15:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, have you seen the KAT5 modules, they're pretty cool. |
| [20:15:00] | Jusk1: | they cost a bomb for what they're doing though |
| [20:16:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, yeah, they're pretty steep |
| [20:16:00] | Jusk1: | Keene Electronics.. £200 for £15 worth of components |
| [20:16:00] | _willcooke_: | damn my internet is slow today |
| [20:16:00] | Jusk1: | when I get round to it I'll publish plans |
| [20:16:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, http://www.kat5.tv/index1.html |
| [20:17:00] | Jusk1: | aha keith doxey's site |
| [20:17:00] | Jusk1: | got the idea from there, found out how to do it without costing arms & legs |
| [20:17:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [20:18:00] | _willcooke_: | yeah Keith's a nice bloke. I spoke to him when I was getting in to HA, he was really forth coming with good advice |
| [20:18:00] | Jusk1: | tell him I was almost after his business. |
| [20:18:00] | _willcooke_: | :)) |
| [20:19:00] | Jusk1: | I costed it right down to a custom screen printed & moulded case |
| [20:19:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, I look forward to a demo at LUGR Live |
| [20:20:00] | Jusk1: | was thinking about that today – might be necessary actually if I can't get a signal in the hall |
| [20:20:00] | JeffATL: | Jusk1: after all – "you can't stop the signal" |
| [20:20:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, do you want a gofer? I'm happy to help. I'll bring a few fuck-off aerials with me! |
| [20:20:00] | Jusk1: | gonna do a presentation video – a rolling video demo if you will |
| [20:21:00] | Jusk1: | hell yeah, Will.. any extra hands will be most appreciated |
| [20:21:00] | Jusk1: | I might want to get myself around seeing other things |
| [20:21:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, I'm there! I'll bring my frontend and backends along, might be able to convince the wife to let me bring the telly as well! |
| [20:21:00] | Jusk1: | shouldn't be any need for that.. I'll be taking a box |
| [20:22:00] | Jusk1: | but it might be good to actually |
| [20:22:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, suits me! |
| [20:22:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, either way, I'll bring whatever you need |
| [20:22:00] | Jusk1: | could be kinda overwhelming |
| [20:22:00] | _willcooke_: | Gotta sell it to the great unwashed |
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| [20:23:00] | Jusk1: | anyone seen jono since his mailing list post? |
| [20:23:00] | ** _willcooke_ needs to eat, bbl ** | |
| [20:23:00] | Jusk1: | fecking hell they didn't half jump on him |
| [20:24:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, Ha! No, he's in hiding. I sent him a email but he's yet to get back to me. |
| [20:24:00] | _willcooke_: | bbl |
| [20:24:00] | laga: | Jusk1: they were rather rude |
| [20:24:00] | Jusk1: | k |
| [20:24:00] | Jusk1: | rude wouldn't be a word I'd use.. |
| [20:24:00] | Jusk1: | but anyway.. |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | yeah, i know, but i wanted to stay politically correct :) |
| [20:25:00] | Jusk1: | got a gmail account ressurected so I can keep my real email for non mailing list stuff |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I saw him once after |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, twice |
| [20:25:00] | Jusk1: | if I see another "will this thing work?" email.. grrrr |
| [20:25:00] | Shirakawasuna: | I have a question that isn't exactly about mythtv, more like encoding avis into dvds |
| [20:25:00] | Shirakawasuna: | would this be a good place to ask? |
| [20:26:00] | Jusk1: | nope |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | Jusk1: oh, -users? ;) |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | Shirakawasuna: probably not. maybe www.transcode.org could help you |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | or was it www.transcoding.org? dunno |
| [20:26:00] | Shirakawasuna: | laga: I'll find it, thanks |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I always have to google for it :) |
| [20:26:00] | Jusk1: | I pop my head up over the parapet to announce my theme 'release'.. and I have to delete thousands of pointless mails |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: hehe |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | night boys |
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| [20:30:00] | Jusk1: | night laga |
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| [20:33:00] | wswanson: | hi all — ok, here's a weird one. using svn from an ubuntu breezy base [successfully with 4 PVR250's, 1 HD-3000 and 1 Air2PC HD-5000], I can't figure out why I am not able to build with FireWire support..... --enable-firewire still renders "FireWire support no' on configure output.... any thoughts? |
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| [20:34:00] | wswanson: | I should note that I have installed raw1394, avc1394 libs and dev, but not sure where iec61883 comes from? is this my problem? |
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| [20:37:00] | ivor: | wswanson: I guess you need iec61883 from: http://www.linux1394.org/ |
| [20:37:00] | ivor: | for firewire to be detected |
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| [20:37:00] | wswanson: | ivor: thanks, will try and report back in a second. this makes sense |
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| [20:38:00] | jorge___: | hi all |
| [20:39:00] | jorge___: | did any of you got an ati radeon tv out work with x? |
| [20:39:00] | wswanson: | heh, ugh. libraw is 1.0.0, but wants 1.2.... looks like it will be more than a second to report back. report back in a few, but again, this makes sense and thanks again for the ptr |
| [20:40:00] | Baylink: | And indeed, yes, I'm pretty sure ours is a 9200SE clone card. |
| [20:40:00] | Baylink: | The newest ATI drivers don't work too well; I had to stay back a rev. |
| [20:40:00] | Baylink: | Or two. |
| [20:43:00] | confusi0n: | someone fix my mythtv |
| [20:43:00] | confusi0n: | NOW |
| [20:44:00] | ** confusi0n eats a squirrel ** | |
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| [20:44:00] | _willcooke_: | mmmmmmmm. Curry! |
| [20:44:00] | ** _willcooke_ feels better now! ** | |
| [20:45:00] | Jusk1: | _willcooke_: do you know how to get a screengrab of an Xv accelerated window? |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | digital camera |
| [20:46:00] | Jusk1: | hahahah |
| [20:46:00] | wswanson: | ivor: FireWire support yes. I suspected iec61883 was the prob — thanks |
| [20:46:00] | ivor: | Jusk1: pipe tv out into a tv capture card. |
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| [20:48:00] | Jusk1: | ivor: nice try |
| [20:48:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, hold on, I was reading about this just the other day. There is a program that lets you do it.... |
| [20:48:00] | Jusk1: | I'm googling for it.. but only finding loads of links to lame windows apps |
| [20:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: You can tell Myth to only use X calls for that particular session and take the snapshot that way |
| [20:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | that;s how I got all my OSD screenshots |
| [20:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | NO_XV=1 mythfrontend |
| [20:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | and then in another shell with DISPLAY set, import -window root file.jpg |
| [20:50:00] | wswanson: | GreyFoxx: I can't remember, did you do the hack for the ati niveus remote? |
| [20:51:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, www.google.co.uk/linux |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | wswanson: yeah |
| [20:51:00] | Jusk1: | aha |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need to sit down and relook at that |
| [20:51:00] | Jusk1: | I'll just use the NO_XV=1 thing... cheers GreyFoxx |
| [20:51:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [20:51:00] | wswanson: | GreyFoxx: did you do anything special with keymapping for mythmusic? |
| [20:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | wswanson: Not, not really. I pretty much never use mythmusic |
| [20:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | though I'm looking at it right now cause for some reason It's never moving on in my playlist |
| [20:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | It plays the same song over and over |
| [20:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | if I move ot another song it plays it , but then repeats it again |
| [20:52:00] | Jusk1: | I'm so gonna uninstall mythphone.. or else give it some good login details |
| [20:53:00] | wswanson: | that would be annoying... i don't have that problem.. the mplayer control problem was more annoying, but I came up with a reasonable keymap for volume control, etc.... I'll let you know if I come up with something for mythmusic mapping |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | wswanson: I have a input.conf for mplayer which used most of the same controls as myth |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/input.conf |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Keeps the main controls consistent |
| [20:53:00] | wswanson: | ah, that sounds more elaborate than what I have... do you have it posted .... voila. thanks |
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| [20:54:00] | Jusk1: | I know it's working now.. comes up in my vnc session |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm gonna look at reworking my ati_remote code and just get it included in the main kernel |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | rather than maintaining my own |
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| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | cept I will seriously look at using an external keymap file for those that don;t wanna edit the code to change the mappings ;) |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | or some sort of ioctl/util for loading a "map" |
| [20:55:00] | wswanson: | that would be good... i've been dragging your hack from box to box for a while now. i really do like the niveus remote because it is RF with good range and it is cheap. |
| [20:57:00] | wswanson: | just turning up SA 3250HD on firewire. seems like it is going to work just fine (already verified the 1394 port is live) |
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| [21:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, Ha! The Goldie Looking Chain describe a PVR as "them posh boxes what record the telly with no moving parts like in sci-fi films" |
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| [21:01:00] | Jusk1: | LOL |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | WOOHOO |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | https://www2.beirdo.ca/cacti/graph_view.php?a . . . p;tree_id=16 |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | finally |
| [21:02:00] | Jusk1: | www.juski.co.uk/cat5test.png – need to put my bitrate back up from 1mpbs for livetv though |
| [21:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Nice What kind of input/output ? |
| [21:03:00] | Jusk1: | composite |
| [21:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | How hard was it to construct ? |
| [21:04:00] | Jusk1: | cable box into my cat5 vid sender.. upstairs thru the ratsnest of wires... then out to the receiver box.. into the pvr150 compo input |
| [21:04:00] | Jusk1: | took me 2 lunchbreaks |
| [21:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh ok, so that's the input to your 150? Nifty |
| [21:04:00] | nuonguy: | Beirdo: What is that? Is that like some nagios-type thing? |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | cacti |
| [21:04:00] | Jusk1: | I'd love to see how good the svideo input is |
| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was thinking of using something like that connected up to a machine with multiple video cards for a large multi frontend machine |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | finally got it to graph out my frigging mail stats |
| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: go a URL to the plans you used ? couldn't have been too much in parts I assume |
| [21:06:00] | Jusk1: | ermm.. should be in my history |
| [21:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | From today ? |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh, browser history ? |
| [21:07:00] | ** nuonguy googles for cacti but finds info only on succulents ** | |
| [21:07:00] | Jusk1: | http://www.edn.com/archives/1995/081795/17di3.htm |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | sweet |
| [21:08:00] | nuonguy: | http://www.cacti.net/ ? |
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| [21:08:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: So If I want to watch my videos with mythvideo plugin I should copy them to the directory where mythtv saves the TV recordings ? |
| [21:08:00] | Jusk1: | jarango: nope |
| [21:08:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: Where then ? |
| [21:09:00] | Jusk1: | either put the files in the default location, which I think is /mnt/videos |
| [21:09:00] | Jusk1: | or make a new directory & put them there |
| [21:09:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: new directory where ? |
| [21:09:00] | Jusk1: | anywhere you have read/write access to |
| [21:09:00] | gr0mit_home: | evnin all....Beirdo – a recompile with the correct paths fixed my probs yesterday. thankd for the hint... |
| [21:10:00] | Jusk1: | then go into utils/setup > settings > media settings > video and point mythvideo to that directory |
| [21:10:00] | ** Jusk1 recommends anybody who's just got mythtv working to sit & explore the menus for a while ** | |
| [21:11:00] | gr0mit_home: | am now having probs getting myth to see my DVB card. dmesg indicates that the kernel knows about the card see http://pastebin.ca/36394 |
| [21:11:00] | gr0mit_home: | this card worked before on my old box so I know it is doable |
| [21:12:00] | Jusk1: | GreyFoxx: for the audio sections, omit the 75R termination resistor at the input & output ;) |
| [21:12:00] | Jusk1: | feckin hell another non-working twinhan card |
| [21:12:00] | gr0mit_home: | it worked on knoppmyth |
| [21:12:00] | gr0mit_home: | and also on a previous self-build afaair |
| [21:12:00] | Jusk1: | and now you're on... |
| [21:13:00] | Jusk1: | ? |
| [21:13:00] | gr0mit_home: | now i am on Debian |
| [21:13:00] | gr0mit_home: | building myth from sources |
| [21:13:00] | Jusk1: | gr0mit_home: do a ls -l /dev/dvb |
| [21:14:00] | Jusk1: | ls -lr /dev/dvb even |
| [21:14:00] | gr0mit_home: | no such file or directory....! |
| [21:14:00] | Jusk1: | bingo |
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| [21:14:00] | Jusk1: | no udev rule for your DVB card |
| [21:14:00] | gr0mit_home: | how do i create these? |
| [21:14:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one ever get the IR Blaster to work with PVR150? |
| [21:14:00] | _willcooke_: | gr0mit_home, this might be of no use but... try modprobing "dvb_bt8xx" |
| [21:15:00] | gr0mit_home: | modules are already loaded. |
| [21:15:00] | Jusk1: | udev rules are a bit of a black art, I think |
| [21:15:00] | Jusk1: | look horrific to the uniniated (like me) |
| [21:15:00] | _willcooke_: | gr0mit_home, try ls -l /dev/dvb* |
| [21:15:00] | gr0mit_home: | so what is sposed to create these files? |
| [21:16:00] | gr0mit_home: | there is no dvb directory in /dev |
| [21:16:00] | gr0mit_home: | which is strange |
| [21:16:00] | Jusk1: | udev rules can be made by human beings, supposedly.. and I assume a lot of them are |
| [21:17:00] | ** _willcooke_ thinks there is a great udev robot with an evil grin painted on its face ** | |
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| [21:18:00] | Jusk1: | erm... when I made my first ever udev kernel (since the kernel told be devfs was deprecated) I was horrified, but somehow managed to get coldplug & hotplug to fix it. |
| [21:18:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one ever get the IR Blaster to work with PVR150? |
| [21:18:00] | _willcooke_: | gr0mit_home, is this of any help? http://svn.wilsonet.com/projects/mythtvology/ticket/112 |
| [21:19:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one know anything about IR transmitters? |
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| [21:20:00] | Jusk1: | feel like commenting about metaquestions again |
| [21:20:00] | Jusk1: | anyone got hair? |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | not on the top of my head |
| [21:20:00] | ** _willcooke_ has <colour>grey</colour> hair ** | |
| [21:20:00] | JeffATL: | ever been in a...turkish prison? |
| [21:20:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Jusk1: whas that directed at me:-P |
| [21:21:00] | ** Beirdo slaps one of the support dudes with RFC 2181 ** | |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | AGAIN |
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| [21:22:00] | Jusk1: | the more specific a question is, the more likely it is that it will be answered. still no guarantee it _will_ be answered though |
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| [21:23:00] | jarango: | Do mythweb and mythbrowser plugins serve the same purpose ? If so, which one is better ? |
| [21:23:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, Is a car better than a pair of underpants? |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:24:00] | lars-ut-away is now known as lars-ut | |
| [21:25:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: What's the difference ? |
| [21:25:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, Well... I'll opt for the answer about mythweb than the one about pants... mythweather downloads weather data, mythbrowser is for browsing web pages |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | mythweb |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | it's for controlling the backend from a browser |
| [21:26:00] | Jusk1: | Beirdo: looks like you guys need some professionals in there |
| [21:26:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, configure mythweb and you get a nice little forecast with some satelite pictures, with mythWEB you can search google |
| [21:26:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: I am sorry, is mythweb vs. mythbrowser |
| [21:26:00] | _willcooke_: | yeah, sorry my bad |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | "I don't get what this 'CNAME and other data' error means" |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | *SLAP* |
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| [21:27:00] | ** Cardoe runs rm -rf on Beirdo ** | |
| [21:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one ever get the IR Blaster to work with PVR150? Or know how i can program in a custom commands? |
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| [21:27:00] | ** Jusk1 deletes the DVB card from his test setup ** | |
| [21:27:00] | _willcooke_: | web, browser, browser, web – it's all the same to me! |
| [21:27:00] | ** Beirdo kicks the cow-worker in the head ** | |
| [21:28:00] | _willcooke_: | Beirdo knows kung fu, mo fo. |
| [21:28:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: But they are different packages |
| [21:28:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, yes. very. |
| [21:28:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: explain pls |
| [21:28:00] | _willcooke_: | they are different plug in's to do different jobs |
| [21:29:00] | _willcooke_: | http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ ;p] |
| [21:29:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: But their names don't tell me much with regards to why they are different |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | mythbrowser is a browser that runs on the frontend |
| [21:30:00] | _willcooke_: | The clue is in the question. WEATHER != browser |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | mythweb runs on a webserver that you point other browsers at |
| [21:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | jarango: just a guess but mythweb is a MYTH CLIENT for the web whre Myth Browser is a Browser for the Front End |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | completely different purposes |
| [21:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | One is an interface for MYTH TV |
| [21:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | One is an interface for Browins the web IN mythtv |
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| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | just install them both and find out ;) |
| [21:31:00] | jarango: | Thanks |
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| [21:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | jarango: just a guess but mythweb is a MYTH CLIENT for the web whre Myth Browser is a Browser for the Front End |
| [21:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | uhh |
| [21:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one ever get the IR Blaster to work with PVR150? Or know how i can program in a custom commands? |
| [21:32:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: you around? |
| [21:33:00] | Cardoe: | darkdrgn2k: why don't you e-mail the mailing list? |
| [21:33:00] | Jusk1: | darkdrgn2k: if lirc works with the pvr150's IR blaster, which is probably does.. you need a lirc config file for the device you want to control |
| [21:33:00] | Jusk1: | which will possibly mean learning all the number buttons from its remote |
| [21:33:00] | Jusk1: | using irrecord |
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| [21:37:00] | ** nuonguy giggles at http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ ** | |
| [21:38:00] | _willcooke_: | Gah!! I'm organising my friends stag night. He fancies doing clay pigeon shooting, I'm not so sure now...... http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shooting3hx.png |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:39:00] | Jusk1: | chav pigeon-leg shooting.. sounds like fun |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | a good targeted add |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | ad rather |
| [21:39:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [21:39:00] | Jusk1: | they'll never learn.. burberry makes crap camoflage gear |
| [21:40:00] | _willcooke_: | Good for hiding in shopping centers tho |
| [21:40:00] | _willcooke_: | or outside mcdonalds in a vauxhall nova |
| [21:40:00] | _willcooke_: | (for our european friends, like an opel kadet but worse) |
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| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | and for those of us NOT in Europe... a total POS? |
| [21:41:00] | _willcooke_: | Beloved by tikes |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh, what am I saying, it's a British car, of course it's a POS |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:42:00] | _willcooke_: | They black out the windows, put stupid wheels on them, neon lights, big speakers etc and then spend their weekends parked in fast food outlet car parks |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | oh yay |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | British riceboys |
| [21:42:00] | _willcooke_: | *cough* not all British cars are crap |
| [21:43:00] | _willcooke_: | riceboys, thats them! |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | care to give an example? |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [21:43:00] | _willcooke_: | http://images.google.co.uk/images?svnum=10&am . . . ;btnG=Search |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | "all parts falling off this car are of finest British workmanship" |
| [21:43:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [21:44:00] | ** Jusk1 's last car was British made. what a PoS that was ** | |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | don't worry, I hate American cars too :) |
| [21:44:00] | _willcooke_: | http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~hooglaaj/cars/wal . . . x768_003.jpg |
| [21:44:00] | JeffATL: | i miss "Top Gear" |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | I'll grant you Aston Martin |
| [21:45:00] | _willcooke_: | although I'm not certain they are made here anymore |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | and Lotus (a few years back) |
| [21:45:00] | Jusk1: | uh-oh.. bug-ette |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | and 60s Jags :) |
| [21:45:00] | _willcooke_: | and 60's Rovers! |
| [21:45:00] | wswanson: | anyone using firewire that is online at the moment? I've been using pvr250's for two years, hd3000 for a year, and air2pc hd5000 for 3 months.... but I am not sure I "get it" when it comes to properly configured firewire. |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, box on wheels! |
| [21:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any one ever get the IR Blaster to work with PVR150? Or know how i can program in a custom commands? |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | darkdrgn2k: not since the last time you asked |
| [21:45:00] | Jusk1: | I deleted a capture card, now when I exit mythtv-setup it's complaining that the DVB card (now deleted) is set to start on channel 100, which doesn't exist |
| [21:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: i figued some one will some day respond :-P |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't count on it |
| [21:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Beirdo: yeh but ppl have a tendency to ignore me :-P so i have to keep bugging you guys LOL |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [21:46:00] | Jusk1: | sod it.. just exited anyway, claiming I know what I'm doing |
| [21:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LoL |
| [21:47:00] | wswanson: | darkdrgn2k: getting ir blaster to work with pvr150 really has nothing to do with mythtv... have you tried the lirc forums? |
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| [21:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wswanson: well it actualy does.. since myhth tv will be controling it :-P |
| [21:47:00] | _willcooke_: | my car --> http://www.volkswizard.co.uk/carsforsale/mj02yhe.htm |
| [21:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wswanson: and what better place to ask then a place wher ppl would actually use it |
| [21:47:00] | wswanson: | darkdrgn2k: well, actually it doesn't.... mythtv uses memory too, but if you have bad memory, are you going to hang out here trying to get the answer? |
| [21:48:00] | Jusk1: | Will I have a Leon, but it's not a Cupra.. couldn't afford the insurance here in M40 |
| [21:48:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, spooky! |
| [21:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wswanson: ACTUALY if i had bad memory and came here complaining of myth crashing.. everntually some one woudl tell me that the memory sux.. |
| [21:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | wswanson: besides.. ive heard conversations on this channel that had NOTHIGN to do with LINUX let alone myth! |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but if you came in here asking how to install your memory... |
| [21:48:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, Got a good deal with Priviledge (sp?) 240quid all in |
| [21:48:00] | Jusk1: | _willcooke_: heard a few too many horror stories of people being car-jacked for their cupras |
| [21:48:00] | Jusk1: | £240?!?!?!?! |
| [21:49:00] | _willcooke_: | YEAH!!!!!! |
| [21:49:00] | Jusk1: | fuck me! I pay close to £700 with four years NCB |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | let's steal his car, Jusk1 |
| [21:49:00] | ** _willcooke_ lives in the sticks – no car jackings here ** | |
| [21:49:00] | JeffATL: | i remember jeremy teasing richard on top gear about some UK car with a chassis made of wood |
| [21:49:00] | wswanson: | darkdrgn2k; like right now (not you and I, but the others)... it's just the way it goes. not trying to send you elsewhere because the question shouldn't be asked here — but nobody here seems to have your answer at the moment |
| [21:49:00] | Jusk1: | and why? coz my postcode starts with the letter 'M' :( |
| [21:49:00] | _willcooke_: | JeffATL, Ah yes! That was a morgan I think? |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | yup, a Morgan sounds right |
| [21:49:00] | _willcooke_: | made by boat builders! |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | drive down to Home Depot for parts for your chassis |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | sounds good to me |
| [21:50:00] | JeffATL: | _willcooke_: i think you're right – they were running top gear episodes over here (US) and i loved it |
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| [21:50:00] | _willcooke_: | JeffATL, There is (was?) a bittorrent tracker that had LOADS of TG episodes on |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | ahem |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:51:00] | wswanson: | no firewire users at the moment? |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | we know nothing of torrenting TV shows here :) |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | let's keep it that way :) |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [21:51:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: sure thing |
| [21:51:00] | _willcooke_: | :) – In theory it's legal to download BBC shows in the UK |
| [21:52:00] | _willcooke_: | since we paid for them in the first place |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but it's a big can of worms, etc. |
| [21:52:00] | _willcooke_: | Beirdo, sure thing! |
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| [21:52:00] | ** _willcooke_ shuts the f up ** | |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | I wish they'd fix the damn law to let us do whatever we want, but that's not the direction it seems to be going these days |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | especially in that USA place :) |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | suckers |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:53:00] | ** Beirdo enjoys living in Canada while it lasts ** | |
| [21:53:00] | _willcooke_: | It's a strange problem. "They" are happy when you have to do battle with a VCR in order to record stuff, but as soon as it's easy (and more importantly you can skip the ads) "they" panic |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | they bitched about VCRs too |
| [21:54:00] | _willcooke_: | but they got slapped in court! HA! |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | and they lost that time |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | this time around, they are spending more money so they don't lose |
| [21:54:00] | _willcooke_: | I fear they'll win next time. |
| [21:54:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [21:54:00] | _willcooke_: | They can't take my DVB cards back! |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | sure they can |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:55:00] | _willcooke_: | They'll have to get past my dog first! |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | just call them weapons of mass destruction, and the US Marines will be there blowing up your town |
| [21:55:00] | _willcooke_: | If they come armed with a sausage they'll be fine :) |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | or a steak |
| [21:56:00] | Jusk1: | whoah! _how_ evil do those new cylons look?! |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | why am I still at work? |
| [21:56:00] | _willcooke_: | Jusk1, you got sky?!? Damn you! I have to wait until five buy it |
| [21:56:00] | _willcooke_: | Beirdo, got rent to pay |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but it's 5pm |
| [21:56:00] | Jusk1: | I got Sky One |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | yoink! |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | not any more ya don't |
| [21:57:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [21:57:00] | Jusk1: | part of the £25 pack of crap. I mean channels I pay for |
| [21:57:00] | _willcooke_: | Actually, if I wait about 3 years it might appear on Sky Three |
| [21:58:00] | JeffATL: | yeah, you skyone guys got 1st-season Galactica *way* ahead of us |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | ooh ooh ooh – did you see that some guy made a DVB-T tx'r from a video card?! |
| [21:58:00] | Jusk1: | yeh |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | JeffATL, who's us? |
| [21:58:00] | Jusk1: | fkin geek |
| [21:58:00] | JeffATL: | _willcooke_: USA ppl |
| [21:58:00] | Jusk1: | lol |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | JeffATL, sky got it before you?!??! |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | it's released in the UK first |
| [21:59:00] | _willcooke_: | bloody hell. |
| [21:59:00] | JeffATL: | _willcooke_: yeah, by a few weeks |
| [21:59:00] | _willcooke_: | sky have deeeeeeeeeep pockets |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | so does the BBC |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | it's YOUR pockets that time |
| [21:59:00] | Jusk1: | yeh.. they've been raping their customers for long enough, have $ky |
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| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | I want someone to make a nice guide system for BBC's online radio so I can "record" the Goon Show every week |
| [22:01:00] | Jusk1: | you know.. the quality of this feed from the PVR150 composite input is about as good as off a DVB-T card.. I knew it'd be okay.. but this good? |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | or that DVB-T was that bad? |
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| [22:02:00] | Jusk1: | DVB-T bitrates are pretty crappy actually |
| [22:02:00] | Jusk1: | ivdeo quality is good, til stuff moves |
| [22:02:00] | JeffATL: | by the way re BG: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1141640,00.html |
| [22:03:00] | wswanson: | I'll ask once more and pause on it for a few hours — anyone around using firewire stream capture? |
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| [22:04:00] | JeffATL: | president roslin – albeit perhaps more so if she were 20 years younger – is my type :) |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | better looking than president bush anyways |
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| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | meh, I'm goin home |
| [22:06:00] | _willcooke_: | Beirdo, is it on "listen again"? |
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| [22:07:00] | HaShofet: | i'm trying to find linux drivers for a twinhan 102g dvbs card. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
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| [22:08:00] | _willcooke_: | Oo, I've seen a trailer for weeds on C4 |
| [22:08:00] | _willcooke_: | or was it sky?> |
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| [22:09:00] | _willcooke_: | yeah, sky. bum. |
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| [22:09:00] | jarango: | Is there a documentation of mythvideo ? |
| [22:10:00] | HaShofet: | does anyone here use the twinhan 102g dvbs card? |
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| [22:13:00] | _willcooke_: | jarango, what do you want to know |
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| [22:20:00] | Jusk1: | woo now thats what I call pretty fast channel changing.. damn sight better than with a DVB card |
| [22:20:00] | Jusk1: | who'd have thought it.. I'm an analogue convert |
| [22:23:00] | hadees: | anyone know how to get linux to output dvi? is there a card/driver that supports it? |
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| [22:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | It should just be a matter of configuring your particular X driver |
| [22:24:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, so they do output dvi? i wasn't sure |
| [22:26:00] | _willcooke_: | laters |
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| [22:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | nvidia ones d oat least |
| [22:30:00] | jarango: | _willcooke_: I want to know if its possible to strech the video |
| [22:30:00] | hadees: | great now i just need a tv with dvi input |
| [22:31:00] | hadees: | and an nvidia card with dvi output |
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| [22:34:00] | fryfrog: | hadees: HDMI or DVI input :) |
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| [22:38:00] | jarango: | I am having trouble with mythvideo invoking mplayer, I can hear the sound but not the video, as if the mplayer window were in the background, because the keys do not repond either |
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| [22:48:00] | jarango: | I can't see the mplayer window when I am in mythtv, how can I correct this |
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| [22:56:00] | Jusk1: | jarango: mplayer is an external application.. it should grab focus and appear on top of mythtv or in fullscreen mode if you enable fullscreen mode |
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| [22:56:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: I am enabling fullscreen mode, and the same command works fine when typed on a terminal |
| [22:57:00] | Jusk1: | jarango in the setup for mythvideo, there's an option to tell mythtv what command to use to play videos. what does it say on your system? |
| [22:57:00] | jarango: | mplayer -fs %s |
| [22:57:00] | Jusk1: | utils/setup > setup > media settings > video > player |
| [22:57:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, when I play a video using mplayer through mythtv some of the stuff I have downloaded has a blue blue line across the top of the capture. Is there a crop switch I can pass to mplayer? |
| [22:58:00] | Jusk1: | jarango: that looks okay.. what window manager are you using? |
| [22:58:00] | jarango: | KDE's default, whatever that is |
| [22:58:00] | FunkyELF: | what does %s do? |
| [22:58:00] | Jusk1: | %s is where the name of the file will go |
| [22:58:00] | jarango: | FunkyELF: gets replaced by the filename |
| [22:59:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: My mplayer uses -vo xv, is that ok ? |
| [23:00:00] | Jusk1: | jarango: it's not switching to full screen using those command switches |
| [23:00:00] | Jusk1: | try xine.. xine sucks less IMHO |
| [23:00:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: I've also tried -ontop and -rootwin options |
| [23:00:00] | Jusk1: | and xine supports DVD menus, which mplayer doesn't do |
| [23:01:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: I am more experience with mplayer than with xine. For example, can xine use the w32 codecs as mplayer does ? |
| [23:02:00] | Jusk1: | xine can play xvid/divx just fine |
| [23:02:00] | Kabutor: | mplayer32 can use w32 codecs |
| [23:02:00] | Jusk1: | why the need for windows codecs? got many wmv files? |
| [23:02:00] | wswanson: | done with my firewire questions.... it is working great with sa 3250hd |
| [23:02:00] | wswanson: | just had to press on |
| [23:03:00] | Jusk1: | you could also try VLC media player – that also sucks less than mplayer |
| [23:05:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: yes, some |
| [23:06:00] | Jusk1: | jarango: try this command instead of the one you're currently using (in mythvideo): mplayer -vo xv -fs -zoom %s |
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| [23:07:00] | Jusk1: | make sure to advance right through the config menu – press NEXT until you see FINISH then press FINISH... otherwise the changes you make might not be saved |
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| [23:09:00] | Jusk1: | and FunkyELF: some googling has produced this which may help you get rid of the thin blue line: /usr/local/bin/xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0 |
| [23:09:00] | Jusk1: | from http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=36871 |
| [23:11:00] | jarango: | Jusk1: I found the problem, it seems that the focus behavior on your window manager has to be set on "click to focus". It can't be set to follow the mouse |
| [23:12:00] | Jusk1: | cool |
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| [23:13:00] | Jusk1: | maybe someone can help me figure out what's up with one of my CAT5 cables.. or I might just borrow a tester from work tomorrow |
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| [23:14:00] | Jusk1: | ahhh.. I know what I can do... |
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| [23:29:00] | defII: | any major difference between the pvr-150mce and vanilla pvr-150? |
| [23:30:00] | Jusk1: | defII: MCE version comes with no remote & has an FM tuner |
| [23:30:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, hihi |
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| [23:30:00] | Jusk1: | MCE OEM comes with nothing at all apart from a driver CD & a folded sheet of A4 paper |
| [23:30:00] | defII: | Jusk1, same internals |
| [23:30:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: doesn't compile here. |
| [23:31:00] | Cardoe: | :( |
| [23:31:00] | Jusk1: | defII: yeh apart from the non-MCE version not having an FM tuner |
| [23:31:00] | defII: | just wanna make sure they use the same drivers. |
| [23:31:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, ooh? what's the issue? |
| [23:31:00] | Jusk1: | oh yeh.. same drivers |
| [23:31:00] | defII: | they're like 30$ cheaper |
| [23:32:00] | Jusk1: | yep.. that cos you don't get the remote & IR blaster |
| [23:32:00] | defII: | and I could care less about a remote(im gonna by a learning remote and use my wireless keyboard/mouse) |
| [23:32:00] | Jusk1: | though some have said you still get an IR blaster with the MCE version – not sure I believe that though |
| [23:32:00] | Jusk1: | defII: good plan |
| [23:32:00] | Jusk1: | save $30.. spend a little time instead ;) |
| [23:33:00] | defII: | Jusk1, I'll tell you about the IR blaster in about 3 days UPS time.. |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | anyone here use OpenBSD and symon? |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx, you in? |
| [23:33:00] | defII: | wireless keyboard and programable remote just seems to make more sense |
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| [23:34:00] | defII: | when I boot my WGS(windows gaming system) I just pick up the keyboard/mouse and my nostromo and I'm done |
| [23:35:00] | Jusk1: | right... that's the orange pairs shorted.. and the green pairs shorted... all good |
| [23:35:00] | Jusk1: | now I can unshort everything & test it.. had orange & green transposed in one socket.. dammit |
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| [23:36:00] | Jusk1: | defII: choose your learning remote carefully.. some, like a lot of JP1 remotes, can't learn many keys |
| [23:37:00] | rylz: | i have tested my tuner and set up mythtv with myth-setup and mythfilldatabase, but mythfrontend fails to display anything when i select Watch TV... it throws the following errors over and over again, but the backend is running, so i don't know what the problem is |
| [23:37:00] | rylz: | 2006-01–10 17:25:55.387 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [23:37:00] | rylz: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [23:37:00] | Jusk1: | but if it's a JP1 remote, you can reprogram the lot with a nice java program called remotemanager ;) |
| [23:38:00] | Jusk1: | rylz: does the /mnt/store directory exist? |
| [23:38:00] | Jusk1: | run mythbackend in a terminal window (stop the daemon first) and tell us what errors it spits out |
| [23:39:00] | Jusk1: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop (or sometimes it's called mythtv-backend... ) |
| [23:40:00] | defII: | Jusk1, jp1? is that the name of the manufacturer? |
| [23:41:00] | rylz: | Jusk1: it existed, but the write permission was only set for the owner, root, so i temporarily set the write permission for group and others, but i'm still having the same problem |
| [23:42:00] | SqWaw: | Jusk1, remotemanager, windows based? |
| [23:42:00] | Jusk1: | defII: it's a general term.. some remotes have a connector in the battery compartment (or space to solder one) so you can reprogram them in ways that only more expensive remotes can be done |
| [23:42:00] | Jusk1: | SqWaw: apparently RM will now work in Linux |
| [23:42:00] | SqWaw: | is there a website? |
| [23:42:00] | Jusk1: | it's java based, so should be quite portable |
| [23:43:00] | Jusk1: | www.jp1-remote.com or something |
| [23:43:00] | SqWaw: | and you dont happen to make the project grayhem theme... do you? |
| [23:43:00] | Jusk1: | it's linked to from remotecentral I think |
| [23:43:00] | Jusk1: | yup |
| [23:43:00] | SqWaw: | thought so, great job |
| [23:43:00] | Jusk1: | cheers |
| [23:43:00] | Jusk1: | any problems to report? |
| [23:43:00] | SqWaw: | actually i think i remember one... |
| [23:43:00] | defII: | Jusk1, interesting, I'll check it out thaks for the tip |
| [23:43:00] | SqWaw: | i'd need to go mess with my tv for a second and tell yea |
| [23:43:00] | SqWaw: | ya* |
| [23:43:00] | Jusk1: | not that I _want_ to hear about problems... but I wanna fix any that crop up |
| [23:44:00] | Jusk1: | SqWaw: my email addy is in the readme file – drop me a mail – guaranteed I'll look into it |
| [23:44:00] | Jusk1: | or it may already be fixed.. see the changelog in the latest download |
| [23:45:00] | ** Jusk1 needs to revamp his webshite, but can't be arsed ** | |
| [23:45:00] | wswanson: | here's an interesting scenario... mythtv uses datadirect in the US. I have an SA 3250HD tuner using Firewire, and a Air2PC HD5000 tuner doing ATSC/QAM256 cable. They get different channels, but I can only setup 1 at labs.zap2it.com. Any suggestions? |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | you can setup more than one lineup last I looked |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | I have 2 |
| [23:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have 2 lineups from different providers under my single zap2it account |
| [23:47:00] | SqWaw: | Jusk1, I'm not sure if its just the SVN acting up... as its the SVN, but sometimes when I go to 'Media Library > Music' the progress bar will just stop at one point and stay on the screen. Music will begin playing though. |
| [23:47:00] | SqWaw: | and it'll be frozen. I have to kill X to get out of it. |
| [23:48:00] | SqWaw: | I'm not sure if the progress bar is theme related or not, but whatever. |
| [23:49:00] | Jusk1: | SqWaw: I had it hang up on me at that point the other day... had to kill mythfrontend.. but it restarted fine the next time & every time after that |
| [23:50:00] | SqWaw: | Yes, it only happends sometimes |
| [23:50:00] | SqWaw: | I dont think its theme related |
| [23:50:00] | wswanson: | ah, but you can only setup 1 lineup per source.... and both are the same provider, but allow me to get different channels |
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| [23:50:00] | Jusk1: | SqWaw: probably right ;) (I hope so) |
| [23:50:00] | SqWaw: | Lol |
| [23:51:00] | Jusk1: | next update. more will be widened.. like the search 'lists' function |
| [23:51:00] | wswanson: | you cannot setup two lineups from the same provider/source with different available channels |
| [23:51:00] | SqWaw: | otherwise no problems, there used to be a problem with the program details screen, but i just checked and apparently you fixed it |
| [23:51:00] | Jusk1: | and the 4:3 theme probably needs some attention to |
| [23:51:00] | Jusk1: | at this rate I'm gonna need some sort of version tracking system |
| [23:53:00] | SqWaw: | ur theme should be into the myththemes sv |
| [23:53:00] | SqWaw: | n |
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| [23:53:00] | Jusk1: | maybe it's a bit young for that yet.. or maybe it's too damn big |
| [23:54:00] | Jusk1: | dunno how big the other themes are... suspect mine is bigger than the others put together |
| [23:54:00] | SqWaw: | well anyhow its nice. you try making an osd yet? |
| [23:54:00] | Jusk1: | not _yet_ |
| [23:54:00] | SqWaw: | LOL |
| [23:54:00] | SqWaw: | well for now, your theme+ the new isthmus is a pretty good combo |
| [23:55:00] | SqWaw: | isthmus is a bit bright though, thats why i like ur grey theme |
| [23:55:00] | SqWaw: | so u should make a grey osd |
| [23:57:00] | znoG: | anyone have MythTV working with a BT878 based card? |
| [23:57:00] | wswanson: | znoG, a long time ago |
| [23:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | SqWaw: vThere is one |
| [23:57:00] | SqWaw: | can't say that *I* do.... |
| [23:57:00] | SqWaw: | ew? |
| [23:57:00] | znoG: | nice, good, i'm getting one tomorrow so I'm keeping my hopes up of getting it working well with MythTV :) |
| [23:57:00] | SqWaw: | GreyFoxx, project grayhem osd? |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, but a Gray-OSD that fits in nicely with it :) |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/ |
| [23:58:00] | ** SqWaw quickly looks at his themes directory ** | |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx, ever use symon on OpenBSD? |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are several screenshots too, the higher the number the newer the screenshot :) |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | SqWaw: It doesn't come with myth |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Nope |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | aw |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | I want to graph the usage of each queue |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, can't you just setup mysql logging and graph from that? |
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