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[00:12:00] hpAuto: did the way themes and the menus work change in the last few versions?
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[00:13:00] Juski: hpAuto: what do you mean?
[00:13:00] hpAuto: like the way .xml files load
[00:13:00] hpAuto: or the format of the xml files
[00:13:00] Juski: I've been using myth since 0.16 so I dunno
[00:14:00] hpAuto: I'm courious becuase I was trying to get mythstream to work, and it doesn't with the install instructions
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[00:14:00] hpAuto: but I followed how some other plugins load, and got it to work
[00:15:00] xris: hpAuto: think so
[00:15:00] Juski: there's a guide on editing theme files to fit mythstream I'm sure
[00:15:00] Juski: saw it the other day
[00:16:00] xris: but most third party stuff is updated to work with .18
[00:16:00] hpAuto: it must have changed with .18, cause I think mythstream was created for .17
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[00:19:00] GreyFoxx: I'd be more suprised if something in the format/containers didn't change between versions :)
[00:19:00] Juski: hpAuto: it works for 0.18, because minimyth has it built in
[00:21:00] hpAuto: it disheartend me when the instructions didn't work :(
[00:22:00] Juski: I just think it's a shame the unofficial plugin creators didnt take constructive criticism too well & went against reworking their code
[00:28:00] EnterUserName: HI all
[00:28:00] EnterUserName: does anyone use mythtv to convert so ipodlinux can read it?
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[00:28:00] EnterUserName: does anyone here use ipodinux withmythtv
[00:29:00] EnterUserName: hello?
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[00:30:00] Juski: ipodlinux.. thats some kind of joke, right?
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: nope
[00:30:00] Juski: really?!
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: You can put linux on the ipod nano
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: and watch videos with it
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: its pretty kewl
[00:30:00] Juski: I'd say
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: I sucessfully did it once
[00:30:00] Cardoe: on a nano?
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: but now i cant figure out how i did it
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: yup
[00:30:00] Cardoe: what's the point?
[00:30:00] EnterUserName: i was watching the 70's show
[00:30:00] laga: aalib? ;)
[00:30:00] Juski: can I put linux on my wristwatch yet?
[00:31:00] Cardoe: it's got a 1.2" screen
[00:31:00] Juski: heh
[00:31:00] EnterUserName: lol
[00:31:00] Cardoe: an iPod Video I might understand
[00:31:00] EnterUserName: cuz
[00:31:00] EnterUserName: its small
[00:31:00] EnterUserName: you can use iPod Photo too
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[00:32:00] EnterUserName: but anyway its kinda kewl its actually large enuff to watch it
[00:32:00] EnterUserName: www.ipodlinux.org
[00:32:00] EnterUserName: hehe
[00:32:00] mchou: lol, I cant even watch some quicktime movies on my linux desktop.....
[00:33:00] mchou: kinda of surprising that linux has all demux and codecs for quicktime.....
[00:33:00] mchou: well, at least ones that work reliably.....
[00:33:00] Guyfromhe: Juski: i'm sure theres one already
[00:34:00] Guyfromhe: http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/ngm/wp10_e.htm
[00:34:00] mchou: most of that stuff is all held together w/ duct tape and twine on linux
[00:36:00] Guyfromhe: aww you can't get it
[00:36:00] Guyfromhe: too bad
[00:37:00] Juski: gotta love linux.. it gets everywhere :)
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[00:49:00] Kapsel: I got my mythtv up and running (more or less), however sound is not working. I have a WinTV PVR-350. Any ideas?
[00:50:00] mchou: Kapsel: check that you loaded the sound firmware maybe?
[00:50:00] mchou: I dont have 350 but 150
[00:50:00] mchou: had that happen to me when I didnt have sound fw in right place
[00:50:00] Arkkis: hey, has anyone set mplayer to switch between different aspect ratios with lirc?
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[00:54:00] Juski: Arkkis: just bind the aspect ratio change button to a key in lirc
[00:54:00] Arkkis: that's the problem there's no ready toggle button
[00:54:00] Arkkis: there's just aspect_ratio [number]
[00:54:00] Arkkis: so I'll prolly have to write some lirc mode stuff to switch the command
[00:55:00] Arkkis: that should not be too hard, but I was also wondering what the common aspect ratios should be, besides 1.33 and the 16/9
[00:55:00] Kapsel: mchou: oh ok. I'll look into it, thanks :-)
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[01:03:00] psofa: is myths dvd ripper good?What i want is insert a dvd choose the subs /audio i want and the main movie split it into 2 dvds and burn. no compression at all.Can it do that
[01:03:00] psofa: ?
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[01:32:00] Goose-Npa: yo yo
[01:32:00] Goose-Npa: will a sempron handle hdtv content?
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[01:42:00] Kamy: hi, I've run into a problem installing mythstream folling instructions here http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . tv0++tar+bz2
[01:43:00] riddlebox: does mythtv setup the recording times through mysql?
[01:44:00] Kamy: I cd to /usr/src/mythtv/source where I'm supposed to tar -xvjf mythtv-0.18.2.tar.bz2
[01:44:00] Kamy: but I get Cannot open: No such file or directory
[01:45:00] johnhash: is the file there?
[01:46:00] Kamy: doesn't look like it
[01:46:00] Kamy: i have this
[01:46:00] Kamy: mythtv-0.18.2fixes.tar.bz2
[01:46:00] Kamy: myththemes-0.18.2fixes.tar.bz2
[01:46:00] Kamy: mythplugins-0.18.2fixes.tar.bz2
[01:47:00] Kamy: but no mythtv-0.18.2.tar.bz2
[01:47:00] johnhash: try "tar -xvjf mythtv-0.18.2fixes.tar.bz2"
[01:47:00] johnhash: you'll eventually need to untar them all but start with the base mythtv
[01:47:00] Kamy: myth is already up and running though, will that overwrite anything?
[01:48:00] Kamy: or are these all extra stuff?
[01:49:00] johnhash: not familiar with that package, sorry, maybe someone else here knows it..
[01:49:00] johnhash: untarring shouldn't be a problem though
[01:50:00] johnhash: if concerned, put it in another dir
[01:50:00] Kamy: when I untar, will it warn if going to overwrite anything?
[01:50:00] Kamy: this is my first foray into linux :)
[01:50:00] johnhash: think so do tar --help or man tar to check the options
[01:51:00] riddlebox: does mythtv setup the recording times through mysql?
[01:51:00] Kamy: okay, thanks for the tip
[01:51:00] johnhash: np
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[01:53:00] johnhash: riddle, as far as i know yes the recording times are stored in the db, though i don't know the specifics...
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[01:56:00] riddlebox: johnhash, ok I will keep searching thanks
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[01:57:00] Cromz: riddlebox, yes they are in the mysql.
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[01:58:00] ** Dave|id puts his hand up for help **
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[02:00:00] Cromz: just spit it out Dave|id lol if someone knows they'll answer.. maybe.. :>
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[02:01:00] Dave|id2: sorry, had to change shells
[02:01:00] jd86: http://jimhome.psunit.com/xine.png << i'm having quite a wierd problem..
[02:01:00] Dave|id2: ok. currently running Ubuntu 5.10 with the Debain package of mythtv. trying to use tv_grab_au
[02:02:00] Juski: jd86: was mythtv using your soundcard at the time?
[02:02:00] jd86: god...
[02:02:00] Dave|id2: when i load up mythtv-setup and try and load d1.com.au as a video source, i am led to believe it i meant to prompt me in the terminal for questions
[02:02:00] jd86: i clicked on the wrong tab :(
[02:02:00] jd86: sorry myth guys :)
[02:03:00] Dave|id2: i get this message in the terminal
[02:03:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 12:02:57.754 Please wait while MythTV retrieves the list of available channels
[02:03:00] Dave|id2: Can't locate Date/Manip.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/tv_grab_au line 105.
[02:03:00] Dave|id2: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/tv_grab_au line 105.
[02:03:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 12:02:57.808 tv_grab_au --config-file '/home/mythtv/.mythtv/d1.com.au.xmltv' --configure
[02:03:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 12:02:57.808 exited with status 512
[02:04:00] Juski: Dave|id2: do you have XML::Simple installed? looks like an error I had with mythvideo the other day
[02:05:00] Dave|id2: hrm
[02:05:00] Dave|id2: i'm not sure
[02:05:00] Juski: it's a PERL component
[02:06:00] Juski: check the channel log from erm.. Wednesday I think
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[02:07:00] Dave|id2: wonder if there is a debian package for it
[02:07:00] Dave|id2: hehe
[02:11:00] Juski: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2006-01-05
[02:13:00] Dave|id2: cool
[02:13:00] Dave|id2: ta
[02:13:00] Dave|id2: http://www.mclean.net.nz/cpan/
[02:13:00] Dave|id2: that is what i just tried to follow
[02:13:00] Dave|id2: :)
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[02:14:00] Goose-Npa: anyone using slackware?
[02:15:00] dasOp: dave: apt-get install libdate-manip-perl
[02:15:00] dasOp: iirc
[02:15:00] CygnusX1: Goose-Npa, I have Slack 10.1 on my Myth box
[02:16:00] dasOp: yup thats it
[02:16:00] CygnusX1: Not sure if I can provide much help though.
[02:16:00] Goose-Npa: CygnusX1: you use ffmpeg?
[02:16:00] Dave|id2: yeah i just occurred to me that i was about to install XML::Simple when i needed something else. Same concept though
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[02:16:00] CygnusX1: Goose-Npa, I have it on there
[02:16:00] Goose-Npa: hmm
[02:17:00] Goose-Npa: did you install it from source?
[02:17:00] CygnusX1: Yes
[02:17:00] Goose-Npa: i can get it installed on my box :(
[02:17:00] CygnusX1: It has been almost a year since I built her though
[02:17:00] CygnusX1: Are you compiling it...what version?
[02:17:00] Goose-Npa: yea compiling it
[02:17:00] Dave|id2: woo, new error
[02:18:00] Goose-Npa: actually
[02:18:00] Dave|id2: Can't locate XMLTV.pm in @INC
[02:18:00] Goose-Npa: it works, i just cant figure out how to compile it with XVID support
[02:18:00] Goose-Npa: you know how to do that?
[02:18:00] CygnusX1: Do you have xvid installed already?
[02:19:00] GreyFoxx: mythtv@woop:~/code/ffmpeg$ ./configure --help | grep -i xvid
[02:19:00] GreyFoxx: --enable-xvid enable xvid support via xvidcore [default=no]
[02:20:00] GreyFoxx: assuming you have the xvid libraries installed of course
[02:20:00] Dave|id2: that is is fixed, new one is now Can't locate Term/ReadKey.pm
[02:20:00] CygnusX1: You need to grab xvidcore-1.1.0-beta2.tar.bz2 and compile it first I beleive.
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[02:20:00] Dave|id2: is there is a main perl package for mythtv, that installs these small annoying perl modules
[02:21:00] GreyFoxx: No, most machines preinstall stuff like Term::ReadKey
[02:21:00] Goose-Npa: CygnusX1: yae i compiled xvid
[02:21:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: which version of ffmpeg is that for?
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[02:22:00] GreyFoxx: Don't remember, date on the directory is sometime in August
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: YEAH
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 12:21:53.994 Please wait while MythTV retrieves the list of available channels
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: tv_grab_au – (version 0.6 – release 2004-07–19)
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: The configuration file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/d1.com.au.xmltv
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: already exists. There is currently no support for altering an
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: existing configuration: you have to reconfigure from scratch.
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: Do you wish to overwrite the old configuration? [yes,no (default=no)]
[02:22:00] Dave|id2: you guys ROCK
[02:22:00] ** Dave|id2 does a dance **
[02:23:00] praet: heh
[02:24:00] Kamy: Anybody here running mythstream on Knoppmyth?
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[02:25:00] Dave|id2: not me
[02:26:00] Kamy: grrr.... I'm following a howto guide which has holes in it... very frustrating
[02:26:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: so you think that configure tag will work with all versions?
[02:31:00] Goose-Npa: when i do the configure
[02:31:00] Goose-Npa: xvid doesnt show up
[02:32:00] GreyFoxx: Where/when did you grab the source ?
[02:32:00] Goose-Npa: ffmpeg-0.4.8#
[02:32:00] Goose-Npa: thats the version i downloaded
[02:32:00] Goose-Npa: from there site
[02:33:00] Goose-Npa: which version you using
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[02:34:00] GreyFoxx: 0.4.9pre1 is what is listed on their site, I don't see 0.4.8 there
[02:34:00] GreyFoxx: And that is from July 2004 and I'm sure has the --enable-xvid flag
[02:34:00] GreyFoxx: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=16082
[02:34:00] Goose-Npa: i tried that one too, i do the ./configure --enable-xvid and after that it shows a list of things that will be enabled and it doesn't say xvid enabled
[02:34:00] Goose-Npa: but i'll try again
[02:35:00] AlienBaby: Anyone tryed the .18.2 ebuild for Gentoo?
[02:35:00] CygnusX1: 0.4.9pre1 is what I used as well
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[02:43:00] Goose-Npa: ARGGHH
[02:43:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: reinstalled xvid, and ffmpeg
[02:43:00] Goose-Npa: but when i load up nuvexport
[02:43:00] Goose-Npa: it still says xvid disabled
[02:44:00] Goose-Npa: divx is enabled
[02:44:00] Goose-Npa: but not xvid
[02:45:00] GreyFoxx: I don't know how nuvexport determins what can and can't be used
[02:45:00] Goose-Npa: hmm
[02:45:00] Goose-Npa: you use it?
[02:45:00] GreyFoxx: nope
[02:45:00] Goose-Npa: heh
[02:45:00] Goose-Npa: how do you archive your tv shows then
[02:45:00] GreyFoxx: I have used it before, but never looked to see how it determines what is available
[02:45:00] GreyFoxx: I don't
[02:46:00] GreyFoxx: and the rare stuff I do care to transcode I do with avisynth+virtual dub as I find them much faster
[02:46:00] Goose-Npa: ffmpeg had critical errors:
[02:46:00] Goose-Npa: pipe:: Error while opening file
[02:47:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: what format does that transcode them to?
[02:47:00] GreyFoxx: Goose-Npa: the formats I tell it to
[02:47:00] GreyFoxx: but xvid+mp3 in an avi container
[02:48:00] Goose-Npa: how long does it take you to transcode
[02:48:00] GreyFoxx: I get between 30–45 fps, so faster than realtime
[02:48:00] Goose-Npa: cool
[02:48:00] GreyFoxx: on an XP2500+
[02:48:00] Goose-Npa: hmm i'll try that out, got a link how to use those to do it
[02:48:00] GreyFoxx: transcode and ffmpeg/mencoder only use to get 7–15 or so fps
[02:49:00] GreyFoxx: no
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[02:50:00] Goose-Npa: sigh
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[02:51:00] Goose-Npa: so with those do you convert mpeg to avi
[02:51:00] Goose-Npa: then avi to whatever?
[02:52:00] GreyFoxx: mpeg2 ->xvid+mp3 avi
[02:52:00] Goose-Npa: hmm but like avisynth converts the mpeg2 to avi
[02:52:00] GreyFoxx: no
[02:52:00] GreyFoxx: avisynth is a frameserver
[02:53:00] GreyFoxx: It decodes and serves up the raw frames of audio/video
[02:53:00] Juski: like wow! someone made an RPM of my theme
[02:53:00] GreyFoxx: virtual dub takes the frames, encodes and writes them out
[02:53:00] Juski: thanks, Jarod!
[02:53:00] CygnusX1: Juski, What is your theme?
[02:53:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: Heh
[02:53:00] Juski: www.juski.co.uk
[02:54:00] CygnusX1: ROFL Project Grayhem!!
[02:54:00] CygnusX1: I love that them...I am using it now. Nice work!
[02:54:00] Juski: if you like the look of it, please test it.. if it works.. keep using it – if not, contact me & I'll try to put it right
[02:54:00] CygnusX1: My wife even loves it
[02:54:00] Juski: glad to be doing the WAF a good service
[02:54:00] CygnusX1: Test it? Have had no problems with it at all...been using it for about three weeks.
[02:55:00] Juski: cool.. that's what I like to hear
[02:55:00] Juski: had a report of an error.. Unable to find image file: /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/ProjectGrayhem-wide/trans-dbackground.png
[02:56:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: you ever looked into VirtualDubMod program?
[02:56:00] Juski: but I don't reference it in any xml file
[02:56:00] Goose-Npa: it supports mpeg2
[02:56:00] CygnusX1: Hmmm...I am using the 4:3 version
[02:56:00] Goose-Npa: a framserver just allows you to use mpegs in a program that wouldn't otherwise support them right
[02:57:00] Dave|id2: anyone know the brisbane chan 10 Digital frequency
[02:57:00] Dave|id2: scan is no longer picking chan 10 up
[02:57:00] GreyFoxx: Goose-Npa: No, it also lets you manipulate the video prior to feeding it to the other app
[02:57:00] Juski: the xml code is fairly common between the themes, though.. I didn't have to change that much apart from the obvious things
[02:57:00] Dave|id2: :(
[02:57:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: as in cuttin commercials/
[02:57:00] GreyFoxx: denoising, timestamping, and millions of other stuff
[02:57:00] GreyFoxx: Certainly
[02:57:00] Juski: Dave|id2: is it not in a scan config file? as in linuxtv.org dvb utils scan?
[02:58:00] GreyFoxx: in avisynth to cann tell it exactly what frames to skip
[02:58:00] Goose-Npa: cool, so if i dont want to do anything to the video , i can go straight to virtualdub?
[02:58:00] AlienBaby: Anyone having Success running Mythtv from CVS?
[02:59:00] Juski: Dave|id2: http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=52
[02:59:00] GreyFoxx: I use it as I also find I don't run into any audio sync issues like I see sometimes by using virtualdub alone
[02:59:00] GreyFoxx: AlienBaby: Many
[02:59:00] GreyFoxx: And it's SVN now, not CVS
[02:59:00] Goose-Npa: cool, i guess i'll give it a try if i can figure out how to use it
[02:59:00] Goose-Npa: not finding any tutorials throguh google
[03:00:00] GreyFoxx: No idea if there is any out there or not, but I would be pretty suprised if there wasnothing
[03:01:00] Juski: fgrep should be enough to do a search for a string in a bunch of text files shouldn't it?
[03:01:00] Dave|id2: just found them in the dvb-util config. Thanks
[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: Why not use regular grep?
[03:02:00] Juski: dunno...
[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: grep "string" file*.*
[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: or add a -r to recursively search subdirs
[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: or -i to do a case insensitive match
[03:03:00] Juski: well.. defintely no reference to trans-dbackground.png
[03:03:00] Juski: and there doesn't seem to be any file of that name in any mythtv theme either
[03:04:00] GreyFoxx: I think it looks for "trans-BACKGROUNDNAME" for certain parts of the theme
[03:04:00] GreyFoxx: and backgroundname is whatever file you have in that section
[03:04:00] GreyFoxx: got a dbackground.png somewhere ?
[03:04:00] Juski: yeh
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[03:05:00] Juski: sorted then
[03:05:00] Juski: thanks GreyFoxx
[03:05:00] thechris: everytime i try to watch tv, mythbackend crashes
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[03:05:00] thechris: this is on a TV. i cannot read any errors, ect...
[03:06:00] Juski: thechris: so run the ssh daemon & log into the box from another machine ;)
[03:06:00] Juski: look at the logs, or run mythbackend in a console & try to make it crash to see what the errors are
[03:10:00] ** Juski puts a file called trans-dbackground.png in his theme, archives it again & uploads it to the webserver.. d'oh **
[03:12:00] thechris: anyone get mythtv to run on x86_64?
[03:16:00] thechris: where would the errors get logged>
[03:18:00] thechris: i get a black screen when trying to view TV
[03:18:00] thechris: any help?
[03:18:00] thechris: it also crashes mythbackend when i do this
[03:19:00] Juski: thechris: /var/log/mythtv ?
[03:21:00] thechris: seems the dir, /tv/live was not there
[03:21:00] thechris: i've fixed this. time to go see if tv actually works.
[03:22:00] thechris: ok, now tv works, all i need now is sound
[03:24:00] Dave|id2: oh oh oh
[03:24:00] Dave|id2: that's my problem now
[03:24:00] Dave|id2: blank black screen
[03:24:00] Dave|id2: will check logs
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[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: xris: You around ?
[03:26:00] riddlebox: if I want to manually insert a show to record into the database do I use the record table to do that?
[03:27:00] Dave|id2: Couldn't read file: rbuf://192.168.0.5:6543/video/buffer/ringbuf1.nuv
[03:27:00] Dave|id2: frontend and backend are on the same box
[03:27:00] GreyFoxx: riddlebox: you, and send a signal to the backend (or restart it)
[03:27:00] GreyFoxx: I mean yes
[03:27:00] Dave|id2: which is that IP i specifed in the mythtv setup
[03:28:00] riddlebox: GreyFoxx, can I insert it to starttime,endtime,station,startdate,enddate, and that is it?
[03:29:00] Juski: Dave|id2: if they're both in the same box, use 127.0.0.1
[03:29:00] Juski: like it says to in the setup menu
[03:29:00] GreyFoxx: riddlebox: I don't know what the minimal required info is
[03:29:00] riddlebox: GreyFoxx, what signal would I send to the backend?
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[03:30:00] GreyFoxx: You'd have to look at mythfilldatabase/filldata.cpp
[03:30:00] GreyFoxx: I don't know exactly what gets sent
[03:30:00] riddlebox: ok thanks
[03:30:00] thechris: Dave|id2: make sure video/buffers is writable by mythuser
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[03:31:00] Juski: yeah.. and what thechris said
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[03:31:00] Juski: lordy I'm tired
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[03:34:00] Dave|id2: sh-3.00$ cd /video/buffer/
[03:34:00] Dave|id2: sh-3.00$ ls -la
[03:34:00] Dave|id2: total 8
[03:34:00] Dave|id2: drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2006-01–07 13:33 .
[03:34:00] Dave|id2: drwxr-xr-x 4 mythtv mythtv 4096 2006-01–07 11:25 ..
[03:34:00] Dave|id2: that looks fome
[03:34:00] Dave|id2: fine*
[03:34:00] Dave|id2: changed the ip back to 127.0.0.1
[03:36:00] Dave|id2: log files show
[03:36:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 10:55:24.579 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
[03:36:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 10:55:24.609 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully (using PS mode).
[03:36:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 10:55:24.611 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup.
[03:36:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 10:55:25.626 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second.
[03:36:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: what script you use to open up your mpeg2 files ?
[03:36:00] Goose-Npa: .avs i mean
[03:36:00] Dave|id2: PIDS?
[03:37:00] Juski: Dave|id2: common error & I can't remember the cure right now
[03:38:00] Juski: and a little tip: in mythtv-setup for best results set the capture card to use TS mode (it's in advanced settings for capture cards)
[03:38:00] Dave|id2: i have a twinhan visionplus dtv-t
[03:38:00] Juski: Dave|ids2: have you verified the card works with scan and tzap?
[03:39:00] Dave|id2: yes, i can get it woking with xine as well
[03:39:00] Dave|id2: i can scan for channels with scan
[03:39:00] Dave|id2: and tzap gives me a nice data output of stuff
[03:40:00] Juski: hmmm
[03:40:00] Juski: did you can for channels in mythtv?
[03:40:00] Juski: *scan?
[03:41:00] Dave|id2: no
[03:41:00] Guyfromhe: bah
[03:41:00] Juski: that'll be the problem then
[03:42:00] Guyfromhe: my mythbox won't work anymore
[03:42:00] Dave|id2: the webpage i was following didn't say to
[03:42:00] Dave|id2: i set it up manually
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[03:42:00] Juski: Dave|id2: manually?
[03:42:00] Juski: was the guide for 0.18?
[03:42:00] Guyfromhe: anyone know anything about dual tuners?
[03:42:00] Dave|id2: http://www.users.on.net/~jani/dvico-mythtv-11.html
[03:42:00] Dave|id2: been using that as a rough guide
[03:43:00] Dave|id2: i'll try a scan
[03:43:00] Juski: Dave|id2: that'd be for 0.16
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[03:43:00] Dave|id2: is there an easy way to find out what version i am running
[03:43:00] Dave|id2: it's the debian package
[03:43:00] Juski: what you'll need to do is take initial tuning details from the channels.conf file for one mux
[03:44:00] Juski: mythfrontend --version I think
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[03:45:00] Juski: Dave|id2: so you take a line from the channels.conf.. use the frequency & FEC etc – put them in the scanner data fields.. then do your scan.. it _should_ pick everything up from there
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[03:49:00] Dave|id2: oohhh
[03:49:00] Dave|id2: silly me
[03:49:00] Dave|id2: doing scan now
[03:50:00] Dave|id2: has locked in 7
[03:50:00] Dave|id2: doing 9 now
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[03:50:00] Dave|id2: scan did not find 10 when it make channels.conf
[03:50:00] Dave|id2: might see if i can still get it
[03:50:00] Dave|id2: 10 has all the good stuff on it
[03:50:00] Dave|id2: heh
[03:51:00] Guyfromhe: holy shit
[03:51:00] Guyfromhe: it's working!
[03:51:00] Guyfromhe: I can't believe it
[03:51:00] Guyfromhe: I just rebooted
[03:51:00] Guyfromhe: and it worked!
[03:52:00] Dave|id2: congrats
[03:52:00] Guyfromhe: sweet!
[03:52:00] Dave|id2: hope i am not far behind
[03:52:00] Guyfromhe: i got both tuners working I think
[03:52:00] Dave|id2: :D
[03:52:00] Guyfromhe: lemme see what happens if I reocrd one thing and try to get another
[03:53:00] Dave|id2: is mythfilldatabase the same as the dailycron job
[03:53:00] Guyfromhe: sweeeeet
[03:53:00] Guyfromhe: the mythfilldatabase daily cron job?
[03:54:00] Dave|id2: ok
[03:54:00] Dave|id2: the answer is yes
[03:54:00] Dave|id2: just ran them both
[03:54:00] Dave|id2: they are the same
[03:54:00] Guyfromhe: thought so
[03:54:00] Dave|id2: cool
[03:54:00] Guyfromhe: ah
[03:54:00] Guyfromhe: only problem I have is when I start watching live tv a big black box shows up in the middle of the screen for a second
[03:54:00] Guyfromhe: not a big deal
[03:54:00] Guyfromhe: but kinda annoyingh
[03:54:00] Dave|id2: what dvb card you using Guyfromhe
[03:55:00] cesman: Dave|id2: one can schedule the running of mythfilldb via mythtv itself, so it may not be a cron job....
[03:56:00] Dave|id2: ok, here goes nothing....
[03:57:00] Guyfromhe: i have a pvr-350 and a pvr-150 I just got
[03:57:00] Dave|id2: argh
[03:57:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 13:56:50.636 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
[03:57:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 13:56:50.651 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully (using TS mode).
[03:57:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 13:56:50.652 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup.
[03:57:00] Dave|id2: 2006-01–07 13:56:51.652 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second.
[03:57:00] Guyfromhe: just regular coax though
[03:58:00] Dave|id2: the scan worked fine
[03:58:00] Guyfromhe: weird
[03:58:00] Guyfromhe: is that a hardware encoder card you have or just software?
[03:59:00] Dave|id2: whatever the twinhan visionplus dvb-t is
[04:00:00] GreyFoxx: a dvb card just grabs the chosen stream and feeds it to myth. The stream is broadcast in mpeg2 so the card doesn't have to encode anything
[04:00:00] Guyfromhe: oh no idea
[04:00:00] Guyfromhe: oh yeah dvb
[04:00:00] Guyfromhe: silly me
[04:00:00] Guyfromhe: does the stream look ok if you save it to a file?
[04:03:00] Dave|id2: i can view the stream via xine
[04:03:00] Dave|id2: no problems at all
[04:04:00] Guyfromhe: lirc is broken again
[04:04:00] Guyfromhe: weird
[04:04:00] Guyfromhe: never seen that error before...
[04:05:00] Dave|id2: just loaded up xine to make sure
[04:05:00] Dave|id2: and now i am watching chan 7 tennis
[04:05:00] Dave|id2: guy in red shirt
[04:06:00] Dave|id2: and another in pink
[04:09:00] Guyfromhe: weird
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[04:10:00] \Grooby\: evening
[04:11:00] Guyfromhe: gah
[04:11:00] \Grooby\: ??
[04:11:00] Guyfromhe: stupid thing won't video now
[04:11:00] \Grooby\: ivtv driver crocked?
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[04:17:00] Guyfromhe: dunno
[04:17:00] Guyfromhe: was working a minute ago
[04:18:00] Guyfromhe: it inits the TV but x never comes up
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[04:21:00] \Grooby\: wierd
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[04:26:00] port80: evening all
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[04:29:00] Guyfromhe: w00t
[04:29:00] Guyfromhe: it;s fixed and the black box is gone
[04:29:00] Guyfromhe: yay!
[04:29:00] Guyfromhe: now I have to find out why the damn lirc isn't working
[04:29:00] port80: does anybody have experience setting up avermedia 771 cards – I've googled for ages and I'm sure I've got it right, but I cannot lock when scanning
[04:30:00] Guyfromhe: sorry never used one
[04:31:00] port80: :(
[04:31:00] port80: I swear my card is cursed :/
[04:32:00] port80: well actually I swear it hates linux, work okay under windows but I have tried for months to get it going.
[04:32:00] Guyfromhe: so are both my cards
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[04:32:00] port80: Its one of the very few pieces of hardware I can't get to work under linuc
[04:32:00] port80: x
[04:32:00] Guyfromhe: i can't get lirc to work again
[04:32:00] port80: your cards don't work either?
[04:33:00] port80: sorry but I wouldn't stress about lirc, as long as I could watch tv
[04:34:00] thechris: anyone know how having issues with sound
[04:35:00] thechris: any way to get ALSA:default to work?
[04:35:00] thechris: it keeps saying "cannot open audio output" and i have no sound
[04:35:00] thechris: alsamixer shows that everything exists
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[04:37:00] redline--: permissions on /dev/sound/dsp ?
[04:37:00] znoG: hi all. Should a capture card with a philips SAA7131 chip work well with MythTV?
[04:38:00] redline--: all depends on the drivers for the card
[04:39:00] redline--: myth just uses /dev/video0 1 2 etc.. the driver is what creates /dev/video0 1 2 etcc
[04:39:00] Guyfromhe: i need a way to tell lirc which card to use
[04:39:00] Guyfromhe: for IR, it's using the wrong card
[04:39:00] Guyfromhe: any way to specify?
[04:39:00] thechris: i don't have a /dev/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp or /dev/snd/dsp
[04:39:00] Guyfromhe: their both using i2c
[04:39:00] thechris: no idea why either
[04:40:00] redline--: Guyfromhe prolly a module options
[04:40:00] redline--: thechris you reboot your box?
[04:41:00] redline--: and what sound card are you using?
[04:41:00] znoG: redline--: yea, i'm just trying to make sure the card I buy is supported by MythTV... so i guess if the card has a video4linux driver, it should work?
[04:41:00] redline--: correct
[04:42:00] redline--: however i would go with one that has the most activity for the driver
[04:42:00] znoG: yea, i was told the best ones are the ones supported by the ivtv driver
[04:42:00] redline--: I know for a fact the ivtv community is full of activity
[04:42:00] znoG: :)
[04:42:00] znoG: i think i'll go for a hauppage one then
[04:42:00] redline--: hans works very hard
[04:42:00] znoG: i wanna make sure the one I get works well :)
[04:43:00] redline--: 0.4 is stable and good, 0.5 has more options and is getting better, and 0.6 is coming out soon
[04:44:00] znoG: for ivtv?
[04:44:00] CygnusX1: redline--, do you happen to know if the PVR150 is working at 720x480 in 0.4?
[04:45:00] redline--: I have a 500 which is 150 x 2, it works but not sure the reso
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[04:47:00] CygnusX1: ;-)
[04:48:00] Guyfromhe: OHHHhhh
[04:48:00] Guyfromhe: I seeee
[04:48:00] Guyfromhe: you need to run lircd with --device=/dev/lirc1
[04:49:00] Guyfromhe: cause card 0 is my 150 and card 1 is my 350
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[04:49:00] Guyfromhe: sweet!
[04:50:00] redline--: anyone good with getting mysql to accept frontend connections?
[04:50:00] dtm: \o/ my pvrusb2 works. now to learn mythtv.
[04:50:00] thechris: redline--: i am using the nvidia onboard sound. it is listed in alsamixer, but not in /dev
[04:50:00] redline--: i already edited my.cnf to comment out skip-networking, got the frontend pointing to backend addy
[04:50:00] redline--: I would reboot thechris
[04:51:00] praet: redline--: have you allowd the mythtv login to connect to mysql on the server?
[04:51:00] thechris: redline--: i don't see what that would do
[04:53:00] redline--: praet i need to give mythtv permissions in mysql?
[04:53:00] redline--: thechris you may have to reload your sound driver
[04:55:00] thechris: i now have a /dev/dsp
[04:55:00] thechris: no audio though
[04:55:00] thechris: any way to get audio
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[04:55:00] enterusername: Hey does anyone know the open source PVR software for windows is?
[04:55:00] enterusername: its on source but i cant find it and i know someone on this channel told me about it
[04:55:00] enterusername: :)
[04:55:00] Guyfromhe: now what happens if i'm watching one channel and another channel comes up to be recorded...
[04:56:00] kormoc: it asks you what to do
[04:56:00] Guyfromhe: i have 2 tuners
[04:56:00] kormoc: it will be smart about it
[04:56:00] redline--: go back to alsamixer and make sure master and pcm volums are up and hit the "M" key to make sure they are unmuted
[04:57:00] Guyfromhe: that'd be cool
[04:57:00] Guyfromhe: i'm about to find out
[04:57:00] GreyFoxx: enterusername: I don't think I've ever seen an open source windows one. There was a free one that became a commerical one (Meedio) but I don't know of any that giv eout their source
[04:57:00] praet: redline--: yes you should allow access from ip range, domain, etc.
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[04:57:00] Guyfromhe: i guess i don't need a swap tuner button
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[04:57:00] praet: redline--: $ mysql -u root -p
[04:58:00] enterusername: Greyfoxx: maye it was meedio
[04:58:00] enterusername: you could download it from sourceforge.
[04:58:00] thechris: what did you guys set up you're sound device as in mythfrontend
[04:58:00] praet: redline-- move to pm
[04:58:00] GreyFoxx: enterusername: yeah, but not the source
[04:58:00] enterusername: its pay now?
[04:58:00] GreyFoxx: And meedio is no longer free
[04:58:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[04:58:00] enterusername: darn it
[04:58:00] GreyFoxx: hasn't been in a long time
[04:59:00] enterusername: i need something to use when i forget to put my computers back into linux
[04:59:00] GreyFoxx: it was no longer free when they changed the name to Meedio
[04:59:00] enterusername: What was the name ebforE?
[04:59:00] GreyFoxx: don't remember
[04:59:00] Guyfromhe: aww it's not smart about it
[04:59:00] Guyfromhe: it just does the normal 1 tuner thing
[05:00:00] Guyfromhe: and you have to go back to the main menu and select watch tv and then select your channel again
[05:00:00] thechris: what mixer did you use in mythfronted?
[05:00:00] Guyfromhe: hardly the end of the world
[05:01:00] GreyFoxx: thechris: some of mine use alsa, some use OSS
[05:01:00] thechris: GreyFoxx: so you use "alsa"?
[05:01:00] GreyFoxx: for the alsa ones I use ALSA:default, for the OSS It's /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer
[05:01:00] thechris: what is the mixer fro ALSA:default ?
[05:01:00] GreyFoxx: the same
[05:02:00] GreyFoxx: ALSA:default
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[05:04:00] thechris: didn't work
[05:04:00] thechris: i still cannot open the audio device
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[05:04:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug* try using the OSS devices ?
[05:06:00] thechris: i don't know if i have that option
[05:06:00] thechris: i cannot read it
[05:06:00] GreyFoxx: read what ?
[05:06:00] thechris: "Cannot Create Audio Output
[05:06:00] thechris: it lists options for sound
[05:06:00] thechris: i cannot read the options
[05:07:00] GreyFoxx: I just type in the values. You are not limited to what it presents you with
[05:07:00] thechris: i typed in ALSA:default and it did not work
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[05:10:00] thechris: is it possible some other progrma has taken control of audio?
[05:11:00] thechris: and if so, can i find out?
[05:11:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: i got it working i think
[05:11:00] Goose-Npa: should i do 1 pass or 2pass xvid?
[05:12:00] GreyFoxx: I don't ever bother with 2
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[05:13:00] port80: so the avermedia card tell me it is trying to tune
[05:14:00] port80: and I watch it trying to tune in the CLI
[05:14:00] port80: but snr ber and unc are all 0
[05:14:00] port80: what could that mean?
[05:14:00] mchou: port80: what avermedia card?
[05:15:00] mchou: port80: is this an atsc card?
[05:15:00] port80: avermedia 771
[05:15:00] port80: dvb-t I believe
[05:15:00] mchou: port80: ok, you in .au. Cant help you out there :)
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[05:16:00] port80: :(
[05:16:00] port80: I wish somebody could help me
[05:16:00] port80: I bought this card almost a year back
[05:16:00] mchou: hehe
[05:16:00] port80: still no go :/
[05:16:00] port80: that's a bad investment
[05:16:00] mchou: port80: and no joy for 1 yr?
[05:16:00] port80: yep
[05:16:00] mchou: lol
[05:17:00] port80: works fine under win XP (yes I installed it just to check)
[05:17:00] mchou: hehe.
[05:17:00] praet: whats the carD?
[05:17:00] GreyFoxx: have you tried #dvb ?
[05:17:00] port80: nope
[05:17:00] mchou: bah, #dvb is virtually dead
[05:18:00] mchou: but #dvb might be worth a shot
[05:18:00] port80: yeah the topic is three weeks old
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[05:21:00] thechris: still nothing with either ALSA:default or /dev/dsp
[05:21:00] thechris: anyone know how to get sound up?
[05:22:00] GreyFoxx: does it work outside of myth as the same user as you run th efrontend as ?
[05:23:00] thechris: no idea
[05:23:00] thechris: i don't have anything else to play sound
[05:23:00] thechris: nor anyway to read the errors that might come up
[05:23:00] GreyFoxx: mplayer, some sort of mp3 player
[05:23:00] GreyFoxx: what it has no screen?
[05:23:00] GreyFoxx: you can't ssh in ?
[05:24:00] thechris: the fonts are too small to read
[05:25:00] GreyFoxx: then launch it via ssh
[05:26:00] thechris: i'm on putty right now
[05:26:00] GreyFoxx: then there you go, you can all you need right there
[05:27:00] thechris: mplayer does not play sound but does not give errors
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: so you started mplayer playing avideo file ?
[05:29:00] thechris: 2006-01–06 23:28:12.305 Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory
[05:29:00] thechris: that is what mythtv says
[05:29:00] thechris: i cat'd /dev/video0
[05:29:00] thechris: for mplayer
[05:30:00] thechris: 2006-01–06 23:28:12.292 Opening audio device 'default'.
[05:30:00] thechris: 2006-01–06 23:28:12.305 Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory
[05:31:00] thechris: Check Mixer Name in Setup: ALSA:default
[05:31:00] GreyFoxx: What does Mplaye say about Audio when you start playing a video ?
[05:31:00] thechris: nothing
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: It must say something
[05:32:00] thechris: i mean it talks about setting things up, but no erros
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: I assume you are actually playing a video an dnot just launching a gui frontend to mplayer
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: Look for a line that starts with "AO:"
[05:33:00] thechris: from the CLI in X
[05:33:00] thechris: AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bps)
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: so it is successly openning an alsa device
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: man it's late. My typing is getting worse
[05:33:00] port80: ooohhh something's happening :)
[05:34:00] thechris: mplayer, yes. mythtv, no
[05:34:00] thechris: is it alsa:default or ALSA:default
[05:34:00] GreyFoxx: ALSA:default
[05:35:00] thechris: colon ":" right?
[05:36:00] port80: I found that if i manually specify the freq it will play ball
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[05:40:00] thechris: maybe its a gentoo bug
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[05:41:00] Beirdo: Cardoe, run away!
[05:42:00] GreyFoxx: Well mplayers lack of error implies it openned it, and it could be muted which is why you don't hear it. but I have no idea why myth is also not loading it
[05:43:00] GreyFoxx: too bad you can't get mplayer to give you more details on the audo device when it launches
[05:44:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: 1 pass or twopass?
[05:44:00] GreyFoxx: Like I said, I don't bother with 2
[05:45:00] thechris: maybe a random reboot will work
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[05:48:00] praet: thechris: when you open alsa mixer does it show as muted or low ?
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[05:50:00] praet: theres also a speaker-test util that may help
[05:52:00] thechris: praet: it is unmuted and at middle for leve
[05:52:00] |Slurpee|: praet !
[05:52:00] |Slurpee|: hows it og
[05:53:00] praet: lo |Slurpee|
[05:53:00] praet: hows it going
[05:53:00] |Slurpee|: GOOD
[05:53:00] |Slurpee|: had school and work all week
[05:53:00] |Slurpee|: got the entire weekend to mess with mythtv!
[05:53:00] praet: nice
[05:53:00] |Slurpee|: drinking vodka now :)
[05:53:00] praet: ive been sick all week out of work
[05:53:00] praet: nice way to top a busy week
[05:53:00] |Slurpee|: weak
[05:54:00] |Slurpee|: yea it was first week back for this semster
[05:54:00] |Slurpee|: all my friends are back from school for holiday till the end of the month
[05:54:00] praet: aha.. a reason to throw a party.. get some stuff recorded and spread the mythtv- love
[05:55:00] |Slurpee|: well im not that far
[05:55:00] |Slurpee|: got debian installed
[05:55:00] |Slurpee|: but not my video cards n stuff
[05:56:00] |Slurpee|: fx5200 and pvr150
[05:56:00] praet: thechris: can you hear anything played with aplay?
[05:56:00] |Slurpee|: have any links to how to setup those 2 cards ?
[05:56:00] |Slurpee|: im running debian sarge stable 3.1
[05:56:00] thechris: i can hear sound from mplayer now
[05:56:00] praet: |Slurpee| lots of walkthroughs out there
[05:57:00] praet: like http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php (fedora)
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[05:57:00] praet: basically you'll use the nvida binaries and ivtv for the capture card
[05:57:00] thechris: |Slurpee|: there is a guide for using module assist for nvidia modules. maybe one exists for ivtv as well
[05:58:00] thechris: so what is mythtv's big deal?
[05:58:00] thechris: why no sound?
[05:58:00] Kamy: How do I assign a fixed IP to a wireless NIC?
[05:58:00] praet: thechris: what are you using in the mythtv setup for audio
[05:58:00] praet: use whatever you just did to get it working
[05:58:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: cool, now only if there was as cript to take a file name and convert it to the .avs
[06:00:00] praet: Kamy: i think you need to edit the card in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
[06:00:00] thechris: praet: i've tried: ALSA:default and /dev/dsp
[06:00:00] thechris: praet: mythtv handels audio differently. no other app makes you set up devices in the same way
[06:00:00] thechris: mplayer just worked.
[06:00:00] znoG: Guyfromhe: how'd you go with the 2 tuners in one box?
[06:01:00] Kamy: I checked that directory, no files there, do I just need to create one there and linux will use it?
[06:01:00] thechris: mythtv gives the error 2006-01–06 23:28:12.305 Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory
[06:01:00] praet: Kamy: if you are in kde you can use kwifimanager
[06:02:00] znoG: Guyfromhe: from scrolling up a bit, I see you got it working nicely
[06:02:00] thechris: leading me to belive it is a mythtv issue more then an alsa issue
[06:03:00] Kamy: praet: I'll check it out, is kde what knoppmyth uses underneath MythTV?
[06:03:00] praet: Kamy: no it uses fluxbox
[06:03:00] praet: try /etc/network/interfaces
[06:04:00] GreyFoxx: thechris login to mysql
[06:04:00] GreyFoxx: and run this
[06:04:00] GreyFoxx: select * from settings where value in ("AudioOutputDevice","MixerDevice");
[06:04:00] GreyFoxx: paste the output to pastebin.ca
[06:05:00] thechris: i need "use mythconverg;" first right?
[06:05:00] GreyFoxx: if you didn't tell it the db name on the commandprompt yes
[06:06:00] thechris: both = ALSA:default
[06:06:00] Kamy: praet: /etc/network/interfaces only references wlan0, I have that disabled in the bios
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[06:07:00] GreyFoxx: maybe for some reason your alsa setup doesn't have a "default" label on the default device ?
[06:07:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug*
[06:07:00] praet: Kamy: is there any data there that says DEVICE=eth1 < your wilress location
[06:07:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: I didn't do it.
[06:08:00] Beirdo: heheh
[06:08:00] Beirdo: nah, it was likely pebcak
[06:08:00] Beirdo: anywasy, I'm off to bed
[06:08:00] Cardoe: 99% of the time... what is it...
[06:08:00] Cardoe: ;)
[06:08:00] praet: thechris: Check to see if you have the "AC3 Passthrough to S/PDIF" option checked in Setup
[06:08:00] Cardoe: PEBCAK!
[06:08:00] Beirdo: yup
[06:08:00] Beirdo: aka "luser error"... at least that's what I use at work
[06:08:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: my MythTV box doesn't work!
[06:09:00] Beirdo: fun being a BOFH
[06:09:00] Cardoe: help me help me!
[06:09:00] Kamy: praet: no, only reference is to the auto lo wlan0
[06:09:00] Kamy: iface lo inet loopback
[06:09:00] Kamy: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[06:09:00] Cardoe: Could it be the fact that I don't have a video card in there?
[06:09:00] Cardoe: Nope.
[06:09:00] ** Beirdo hands Cardoe a tivo **
[06:09:00] Cardoe: Must be a MythTV bug... or... *gasp* Gentoo bug.
[06:09:00] thechris: praet: it wanted my mixer to be "default", not "ALSA:default"
[06:09:00] Kamy: oops
[06:09:00] Beirdo: heh
[06:09:00] Beirdo: anyways, bed for me
[06:09:00] Cardoe: night
[06:09:00] Beirdo: have a good night all
[06:09:00] thechris: my output now works as "ALSA:default" and mixer "default"
[06:09:00] Kamy: no, no reference to eth1 or eth0
[06:09:00] GreyFoxx: thechris: Weird
[06:09:00] GreyFoxx: but congrats :)
[06:09:00] Kamy: g'nite
[06:10:00] thechris: luckily it plays loud enough
[06:10:00] praet: Kamy: change that line to read "iface wlan0 inet static"
[06:10:00] Goose-Npa: GreyFoxx: i get about 25fps, but that may be because im encoding over the network
[06:10:00] GreyFoxx: That would add some latency
[06:11:00] Kamy: praet: done
[06:12:00] Goose-Npa: just tryin to get some good settings now though
[06:12:00] praet: Kamy: now add your static settings, look here for an idea: http://pastebin.ca/36078
[06:13:00] Kamy: praet: since I'm not using a wep key, I should leave that line out right?
[06:14:00] praet: yeah comment it out or delete it
[06:14:00] Kamy: okay, I'll give it a crack, thanks much :)
[06:15:00] praet: there should be a way to iwconfig /dump filename anyways good luck
[06:15:00] praet: quittin time
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[06:32:00] |Slurpee|: sorry praet
[06:32:00] |Slurpee|: i had to switch to a dif server
[06:32:00] |Slurpee|: dont have a kvm switch here :(
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[07:16:00] Kamy: help please...
[07:16:00] Kamy: I was trying to set a fixed ip for my wireless nic
[07:17:00] Kamy: now I get, cannot connect to master backend
[07:17:00] Kamy: is it running?
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[07:17:00] Kamy: is the ip address correct?
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[07:18:00] Kamy: Ip address in set up is 127.0.0.1
[07:18:00] Kamy: my router is supplying 192.168.1.104
[07:19:00] Kamy: any suggestions
[07:20:00] cesman: what do you have as the IP in mythtv-setup?
[07:20:00] mchou: Kamy: the mythtv-setup backend address has to match the ip address as shown by ifconfig
[07:20:00] cesman: NOTE:all system have 127.0.0.1 it is your loopback
[07:20:00] mchou: cesman: exactly  :)
[07:20:00] Kamy: okay, let me check what ifconfig has
[07:20:00] cesman: if you don't have remote frontends or a slave backend, you can leave it as 127.0.0.1
[07:21:00] cesman: if your backend isn't starting, you need to investigate why...
[07:21:00] cesman: a good place to start is /var/log/mythtv/
[07:21:00] mchou: cesman: heh, yeah, that too :)
[07:21:00] cesman: thechris: GDM
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[07:23:00] Kamy: ifconfig command doesn't do anything
[07:24:00] thechris: cesman: i settled with adding su mythuser -c 'source /etc/profile;startx' to the end of my local.start file in gentoo
[07:25:00] cesman: sorry... it has been years since I touch gentoo
[07:25:00] ** cesman is a KnoppMyth man ;) **
[07:26:00] Kamy: cesman: what should I look for in /var/log/mythtv/
[07:27:00] cesman: what have you done?
[07:27:00] cesman: did you verify the IPs in mythtv setup?
[07:27:00] Chutt: cesman, does the knoppmyth install try to setup the db inself, and bypass mythtv-setup?
[07:27:00] Chutt: itself, too
[07:28:00] cesman: Chutt: no
[07:28:00] Chutt: you don't insert anything into the database?
[07:28:00] Kamy: The Ip's in setup are 127.0.0.1
[07:28:00] cesman: yes, some default loactions such as /myth/tv for recordings
[07:28:00] cesman: Kamy: did you start the backend?
[07:29:00] Chutt: the size for the livetv buffer?
[07:29:00] cesman: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start
[07:29:00] eiggirC: I'm going to RMA my PVR150 card. Lets see how the supplier likes my problem :-\
[07:29:00] Chutt: and the ip for the master backend?
[07:29:00] Kamy: how to start it from here, mythbackend?
[07:29:00] cesman: Chutt: yes, that is calculated
[07:29:00] cesman: Chutt: 127.0.0.1
[07:29:00] mchou: eiggirC: huh??
[07:29:00] Kamy: okay, just a sec
[07:29:00] Chutt: cesman, apparently you're doing both wrong :p
[07:29:00] mchou: eiggirC: what's wrong w/150?
[07:29:00] cesman: how so?
[07:30:00] Chutt: you haven't seen the reports of people having to manually fix their database so remote frontends can connect?
[07:30:00] cesman: yes, that has been fixed
[07:30:00] eiggirC: mchou: I suspect my card is slightly off. Station One lost audio and has a shitty pciture, but through a TV its fine. In addition, all my channels are one digit below where they should be.
[07:30:00] Chutt: or people filling up their live-tv partitions, since the value's too large?
[07:30:00] Chutt: guy on the users list today said he still had to do it with 30
[07:30:00] cesman: I think that is a user issue
[07:30:00] cesman: I've left TV on for hrs w/o issue
[07:31:00] mchou: eiggirC: huh?? I digit below?
[07:31:00] Chutt: depends on the size
[07:31:00] mchou: s/I/One
[07:31:00] Chutt: and how much reserve space on the partition there is.
[07:31:00] cesman: Chutt: if he didn't fix it in A26 and did an upgrade, yes it would be an issue
[07:31:00] cesman: as the db is restored
[07:31:00] cesman: it isn't an issue w/ new installs
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[07:32:00] cesman: 50 MB is left reserved
[07:32:00] Chutt: err
[07:32:00] eiggirC: mchou: okay – in this region TVone is broadcast on broadcast channel number 3, which is 62.250 MHz. I have only got a signal for that station by telling mythtv to use broadcast channel "2"
[07:32:00] Chutt: 50MB certainly isn't enough for the root reservation space
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[07:32:00] Chutt: maybe for smaller partitions
[07:32:00] cesman: live tv buffer is it's own partition
[07:33:00] Chutt: and you disable it from reserving space for root?
[07:33:00] eiggirC: live TV is a crock. You could loose it completely from mythtv and only new people would care
[07:33:00] eiggirC: :)
[07:33:00] mchou: live tv is good for verifying myth-hardware chain works :)
[07:33:00] cesman: I'm not certain I understand the ?
[07:34:00] Chutt: cesman, by default, when you create a partition, a certain percentage of space is reserved for the root user. a normal user cannot write to it.
[07:34:00] |Slurpee|: can someone help me install my nvida fx5200 in sarge stable 3.1
[07:34:00] mchou: but that's the only reason for livetv
[07:34:00] cesman: oh, ok...
[07:34:00] Kamy: cesman: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start it says command not found
[07:34:00] Chutt: there's 'free' space, and 'available' space.
[07:34:00] cesman: I thought you were talking about a setting option
[07:34:00] Chutt: no
[07:34:00] Kamy: I even pathed right to it
[07:35:00] Chutt: so if you create a live-tv partition, and then set the live-tv buffer size setting in myth to be too large
[07:35:00] Chutt: (when 'too large' means smaller than the partition, but larger than the available space the user running the backend has access to)
[07:35:00] Chutt: bad things could happen :p
[07:36:00] cesman: Chutt: The size of the partition is based on the size of the drive (auto install)
[07:36:00] Chutt: right
[07:36:00] mchou: Chutt: hah, doesnt the backend just crash in that case? :)
[07:36:00] Chutt: yes
[07:36:00] Chutt: which is what i'm trying to explain :p
[07:36:00] cesman: during the course of setting thing up, the is figured out and the appropriate value is set in in the schema for the user
[07:37:00] Chutt: i don't think the automatic setting of the live-tv buffer size setting is correct in that case.
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[07:37:00] Chutt: how do you calculate the 'appropriate' value?
[07:37:00] cesman: Like I've stated, I've never seen an issue with this
[07:37:00] Chutt: i've seen it reported lots of times
[07:37:00] mchou: cesman: doesnt mean that it wont happen :)
[07:37:00] Chutt: if you have a smaller disk, then you won't
[07:37:00] cesman: mchou: I'm aware
[07:38:00] eiggirC: mchou: you have a point on that.
[07:38:00] cesman: Chutt: where?
[07:38:00] Chutt: on the users list
[07:38:00] eiggirC: I wonder – would a poor firmware file cause problems with ivtv and give the issues I've seen?
[07:38:00] cesman: While, I'm on the list, I don't field or see every ? related to KnoppMyth
[07:38:00] mchou: eiggirC: where do you live?
[07:38:00] Chutt: right :p
[07:39:00] eiggirC: mchou: Christchurch, New Zealand.
[07:39:00] mchou: eiggirC: is that PAL?
[07:39:00] Chutt: just make sure your 'buffer size' calculation takes into account the available space for the user, not the total free space in the partition.
[07:39:00] eiggirC: mchou: yes – PAL-B/G
[07:39:00] Chutt: they can be _quite_ different.
[07:39:00] cesman: Kamy: <ALT><2> to start the backend
[07:40:00] mchou: eiggirC: and how do you determine that channel is off by one?
[07:41:00] eiggirC: mchou: I know the broadcast frequency and channel number from numerous TV sets, and ivtv-tune confirms that 62.250 MHz is channel 3. But in mythtv-setup I have to give channel number 2 for it to work
[07:41:00] mchou: eiggirC: if ivtvctl works then the card is working
[07:41:00] cesman: is the live tv buffer setting still going away?
[07:41:00] eiggirC: mchou: or does mythtv number from 0 ?
[07:41:00] mchou: eiggirC: lol
[07:41:00] Chutt: cesman, yeah, it's completely gone.
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[07:41:00] ** cesman needs to grab latest SVN **
[07:41:00] Chutt: eiggirC, you have the wrong tuner set.
[07:41:00] eiggirC: mchou: serious question
[07:41:00] Kamy: cesman: doesn't seem to do anything
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[07:42:00] mchou: eiggirC: what Chutt said
[07:42:00] eiggirC: Chutt: no – I only have the one tuner... a PVR150
[07:42:00] Chutt: uh
[07:42:00] eiggirC: and country is set to newzealand
[07:42:00] Chutt: again, you have the wrong tuner set.
[07:42:00] cesman: Kamy: as root tail -f /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[07:42:00] mchou: eiggirC: lol
[07:42:00] Chutt: on a tv tuner card
[07:42:00] Chutt: there is a thing that actually is the 'tuner'
[07:42:00] Chutt: that tunes to the frequencies.
[07:42:00] cesman: then <alt><3>this should restart the backend
[07:42:00] Chutt: it uses the 'tuner' module in the kernel.
[07:42:00] mchou: eiggirC: like tuner type in ivtv :)
[07:43:00] Chutt: you have the wrong type set.
[07:43:00] eiggirC: Chutt: okay – this line from dmesg ?
[07:43:00] eiggirC: tuner: type set to 57 (Philips FQ1236A MK4) by ivtv i2c driver #0
[07:43:00] cesman: you should see text scroll in the xterm window
[07:43:00] mchou: eiggirC: yup
[07:43:00] Chutt: err, yes?
[07:43:00] eiggirC: ahhhh okay
[07:43:00] eiggirC: what type tuner is a PVR150MCE ?
[07:43:00] mchou: lol
[07:43:00] cesman: if you don't see this, something is really wrong w/ your setup
[07:43:00] Chutt: it's lots of different types.
[07:43:00] mchou: depends on country :)
[07:44:00] mchou: and other various crap only hauppauge understands :)
[07:44:00] eiggirC: okay thanks... that gives me a good lead to follow
[07:44:00] eiggirC: yeah – I had locked it at type 57 when loading ivtv
[07:45:00] Chutt: i believe 57 is an ntsc tuner type.
[07:45:00] Kamy: cesman: seem to be woken up by user
[07:45:00] eiggirC: tuner: type set to 38 (Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3)) by ivtv i2c driver #0
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[07:45:00] eiggirC: it auto chose tuner type 38
[07:45:00] eiggirC: interesting
[07:45:00] Camisa: What version of xmame is supported with mythgames?
[07:45:00] mchou: eiggirC: now that's more like it :)
[07:47:00] eiggirC: cool! 4 channels of pure high quality digital snow!
[07:47:00] mchou: lol
[07:47:00] eiggirC: sweet :)
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[07:51:00] mchou: Chutt: when you do a "mythfilldatabase --update-icon-map" how does it know which directory to download the icons?
[07:51:00] jhihn: you can use it as a random number genertor
[07:51:00] Chutt: i dunno
[07:51:00] Chutt: ~/.mythtv/
[07:51:00] eiggirC: *gobsmacked*
[07:51:00] Chutt: most likely
[07:51:00] eiggirC: its working
[07:52:00] eiggirC: goddamn you're good mchou and Chutt
[07:52:00] eiggirC: thank you heaps!
[07:52:00] mchou: haha, thank Chutt
[07:52:00] mchou: I had nothing to do w/it
[07:53:00] Kamy: ok, well the backend seems to be running, but the fromtend won't connect to it
[07:53:00] mchou: soon we can d/l all our videos from google (for a fee)
[07:53:00] eiggirC: Chutt: thank you! Thank you!
[07:53:00] eiggirC: mchou: same to you :)
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[07:56:00] eiggirC: mchou: makes me puzzled though – how was it so almost-working ?
[07:57:00] mchou: cause PAL and NTSC are close enough to seem like "it's working"
[07:58:00] mchou: but sufficiently far apart to "not work"
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[07:58:00] mchou: :)
[07:58:00] Kamy: how can i cee what the ip of my wireless nic is? My routers dhcp server is assigning 192.168.1.104, but I can't use putty to get in...
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[07:58:00] mchou: Kamy: sigh :)
[07:59:00] mchou: this is not #linux-support
[07:59:00] Kamy: :(
[07:59:00] Kamy: I know, but I'm learning :)
[07:59:00] JoshTriplett: Let me note, for the record, that JFS sucks.
[07:59:00] mchou: haha!!
[08:00:00] mchou: how does JFS suck?
[08:00:00] eiggirC: Kamy: on your linux box? run ifconfig
[08:00:00] Kamy: I did, it just sits there, doesn't return anything
[08:00:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: On a related note, is it possible to get data out of a MythTV table that will identify a large group of files, knowing only their sizes? :)
[08:00:00] mchou: JoshTriplett: lol
[08:00:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: Suppose, hypothetically, the files were named /mythtv/lost+found/* :)
[08:00:00] mchou: they are all the same size
[08:01:00] mchou: 30min, 1hr :)
[08:01:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: Fortunately not; every one is a different size. :)
[08:01:00] JoshTriplett: Joys of encoded formats.
[08:01:00] Kamy: everything was working fine earlier, until I edited /etc/network/interfaces
[08:01:00] Kamy: after that nothing worked
[08:02:00] mchou: JoshTriplett: how did you get in this mess with JFS?
[08:02:00] Kamy: I took out the changes I made but it didn't fix it
[08:02:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: The box was rock-solid for quite some time, and then it started crashing. I tried various things, and finally I decided to try umounting the /mythtv filesystem and running fsck. And lo and behold, it found what it claimed was dozens of errors, and proceeded to fix them by throwing everything in /lost+found.
[08:02:00] mchou: JoshTriplett: nothing is supposed to go in lost+found on a journaled system :)
[08:02:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: Ya think? :)
[08:03:00] mchou: JoshTriplett: you screwed up using fsck
[08:03:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: I doubt that very seriously.
[08:03:00] mchou: JoshTriplett: I dont doubt it at all
[08:04:00] mchou: there is no other explanation
[08:04:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: Sure there is; JFS could have issues. It's not a particularly common filesystem, and I've heard various reports of JFS and XFS eating data, which their respective proponents quickly dismiss.
[08:05:00] mchou: most likely your fsck version was out of sync version-wise with the filesystem
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[08:05:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: It's the newest version of jfsutils available.
[08:05:00] mchou: JoshTriplett: that's your problem rigth there
[08:06:00] mchou: jfsutils was latest, but jfs was not
[08:06:00] mchou: version mismatch
[08:06:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: Also keep in mind that if that were the problem (and I don't know that it is), then it is still JFS' fault, for not having expressed the version incompatibility in both the filesystem and the tools.
[08:06:00] mchou: means you fucked up.
[08:06:00] mchou: lol
[08:06:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: e2fsutils does the Right Thing in that case.
[08:06:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: If it encounters something it doesn't know how to handle, it stops right there.
[08:07:00] mchou: thats cause e2fs aint journaled
[08:07:00] JoshTriplett: ext3 is.
[08:07:00] JoshTriplett: (e2fsutils contains tools for both ext2 and ext3.)
[08:07:00] JoshTriplett: Anyway, at the moment I'm more concerned with restoring the files.
[08:08:00] JoshTriplett: Do you happen to know if any information I could use to identify the files is stored in the tables?
[08:08:00] ** JoshTriplett is digging through them right now. **
[08:09:00] thechris: i've had XFS eat my xorg.conf once. startx crashed. upon rebot, xorg.conf was toast.
[08:10:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Those are the kinds of stories I've heard, yeah.
[08:10:00] Kamy: cesman: I can't pm cuase I haven't registered this nick
[08:10:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Gone or filled with garbage?
[08:10:00] thechris: garbage
[08:10:00] thechris: now JFS i never really got to use
[08:11:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: I might suggest avoiding it. :)
[08:11:00] thechris: it would always give error -22
[08:11:00] ** JoshTriplett is planning to switch back to ext3, deletion time issues or not. I certainly have never experienced an issue deleting large files on ext3. **
[08:11:00] thechris: JoshTriplett: eh, it only happened one time. i actually use xfs and ext2
[08:11:00] thechris: i guess i have /var on ext3
[08:11:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Even after the xorg.conf incident?
[08:12:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Where do you keep your mythtv stuff?
[08:12:00] Kamy: what does it mean when ifconfig doesn't return anything
[08:12:00] JoshTriplett: Kamy: You have no interfaces up.
[08:12:00] thechris: JoshTriplett: that is on a seperate volume
[08:12:00] JoshTriplett: Kamy: Try "ifconfig -a" to see the ones that are down too.
[08:12:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Ah.
[08:12:00] thechris: oh and it may have had something to do with evms as well
[08:12:00] Kamy: ok
[08:13:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Never tried evms; using LVM at the moment, and it works just fine.
[08:13:00] thechris: JoshTriplett: gentoo (or udev) really messed up lvm for me... evms uses lvm for its management
[08:13:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Technically both evms and lvm use dm for their management, AFAIK.
[08:14:00] thechris: yeah. evms is nice becasue udev never changes where the devices are
[08:14:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: What do you mean by that?
[08:14:00] thechris: unlike lvm, which is in /dev/ during the install, and /dev/mapper afterwards (if you are lucky)
[08:15:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Hmmm; worked fine for me on Debian.
[08:15:00] mchou: thechris: huh???
[08:15:00] thechris: JoshTriplett: yeah, i assume debian would have just set things up right.
[08:15:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: The installer did all the setup and everything Just Worked.
[08:15:00] ** JoshTriplett shrugs; some things Gentoo probably gets more correct. **
[08:16:00] Kamy: I think I found it...
[08:16:00] mchou: Bullshit. I dont think gentoo does anything correctly
[08:16:00] thechris: mchou: everytime i've set up LVM on gentoo, its moved the lvm volumes on me or just didn't work. i've moved to evms becasue udev seems to be ok with it
[08:16:00] thechris: i do like the init system in gentoo
[08:18:00] thechris: and i mostly like how portage not only has the package i want, but multiple versions of it, and makes decently good decisions for dependencies
[08:19:00] JoshTriplett: OK, it looks like the "recordings" table has start times, end times, channels, and file sizes; that should be sufficient to reconstruct the filenames and put the files back.
[08:20:00] Kamy: hahhahahahaha
[08:20:00] Kamy: I got it
[08:20:00] cesman: :)
[08:20:00] mchou: xfs
[08:20:00] thechris: yeah, i used to use that table to make playlists so i could view the files in VLC. mainly because of an issue i was having with mythtv's playback
[08:20:00] mchou: rock solid for me here, after many power outtages
[08:20:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: What was the issue?
[08:21:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: I suppose I'm a little leery of exotic filesystems at this point. :)
[08:21:00] mchou: and no, I dont have UPS even though I should.
[08:21:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: But I'm going to get the files restored before I start figuring out what new filesystem to use.
[08:21:00] thechris: JoshTriplett: it would just pause for seconds at a time. no data transfered over the network eihter.
[08:21:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: Yeah, same here.
[08:22:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Hmmm.
[08:22:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Strange.
[08:22:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: And it wasn't a network issue?
[08:22:00] thechris: JoshTriplett: nope. it worked in mplayer, and i could transfer large files just fine
[08:23:00] thechris: normally it would sit at 600kb/s, then hit a pause, fall to 0 wait a second, then go back to 600kb/s
[08:23:00] JoshTriplett: thechris: Huh.
[08:24:00] Kamy: well, now it's time to go to bed, before I break anything else, g'nite all
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[08:26:00] opello: i'm trying to use mpeg2cut (actually nuvexport) to cut out some commercials, i have Xvfb, but avidemux is returning that it can't get to the x server running on :13 (says no protocol specified)
[08:26:00] |Slurpee|: anyone have a fx5200 ?
[08:27:00] thechris: |Slurpee|: try going to google, or #debain , and ask them to tell you about nvidia
[08:28:00] opello: lol, works when i ssh in but not doing it from virtual desktop 2 in fluxbox ... must be an .Xauthority thing
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[08:33:00] Guyfromhe: znoG: everything is working, i'
[08:33:00] Guyfromhe: i'm happy
[08:34:00] Guyfromhe: i actually just noticed you can set priorities on shows and the show thats got the higher priority gets the better input
[08:35:00] dtm: HAHAHAHA my pvrusb2 works WE GET SIGNAL
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[08:35:00] dtm: Guyfromhe: free software makes people happy
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[08:37:00] Guyfromhe: dtm: specially when it's cool
[08:38:00] Guyfromhe: and when it works with 2 tuners
[08:38:00] cesman: |Slurpee|: Yes, I have two
[08:39:00] dtm: Guyfromhe: that's cool.
[08:40:00] Guyfromhe: two eh?
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[08:42:00] cesman: yes, 2 fx5200
[08:42:00] mchou: dtm: for real? pvrusb2 works?
[08:42:00] dtm: YES
[08:43:00] dtm: mchou: i can do 'cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpeg' and view that in mplayer
[08:43:00] mchou: dtm: you need any special drivers?
[08:43:00] dtm: mchou: heck yeah.
[08:43:00] dtm: mchou: why, do you ahve one?
[08:43:00] |Slurpee|: cesman
[08:43:00] |Slurpee|: what operating system r u running
[08:43:00] cesman: |Slurpee|:
[08:43:00] mchou: dtm: no, but interested in getting a few
[08:43:00] cesman: Linux of course
[08:43:00] dtm: mchou: yeah it's da bomb
[08:43:00] dtm: mchou: extremely high quality even on usb 1.1 at 6Mbps
[08:43:00] mchou: dtm: does it change channels? :)
[08:44:00] dtm: mchou: yeah it does everything but FM
[08:44:00] dtm: mchou: i'm learning what mythtv is, right now
[08:44:00] dtm: i've never seen it
[08:44:00] mchou: dtm: where to get driver, and is there a howto?
[08:44:00] dtm: mchou: http://iseley.net/pvrusb2.html
[08:44:00] mchou: dtm: thx
[08:44:00] dtm: mchou: you need a linux 2.6 source tree, prebuilt
[08:45:00] mchou: got that
[08:45:00] dtm: mchou: and installed
[08:45:00] mchou: yup
[08:45:00] dtm: mchou: you dont have to have a custom 2.6, just that the src tree is built and you're running a compatible 2.6 kernel.
[08:45:00] mchou: dtm: url doesnt resolve for me
[08:45:00] cesman: http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2.html
[08:46:00] dtm: mchou: and very meticulously follow the instructions
[08:46:00] dtm: mchou: sorry i misspelled it.
[08:47:00] dtm: mchou: and there's #pvrusb2
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[08:54:00] mchou: dtm: nice, just read thru the url
[08:54:00] mchou: seems pretty simple
[08:54:00] dtm: mchou: hahahaaAAAAA if you say so1
[08:54:00] dtm: !
[08:55:00] dtm: mchou: yeah if you have a recent and otherwise functional system, it wouldn't be too hard. only a few MAJOR steps.
[08:55:00] dtm: and they're fairly automated.
[08:55:00] dtm: mchou: why would you get multiple pvrusb2's rather than one multituner PCI?
[08:55:00] dtm: i dont think they make USB multituners
[08:56:00] mchou: what major steps? compile and install ivtv, and you're pretty much done :)
[08:57:00] dtm: yeah that and a few other major steps!
[08:57:00] mchou: dtm: cause I have 4 pvr150? :)
[08:57:00] dtm: mchou: why!?
[08:57:00] dtm: mchou: are you building some anti-terrorism grade DVR or what
[08:57:00] mchou: cause I got them as gifts
[08:57:00] mchou: and now out of pci slots
[08:58:00] mchou: hehe
[08:58:00] dtm: ok so let's review the bizarre points here 1) you have four tuner cards. 2) you want more.
[08:58:00] dtm: 3) ????
[08:58:00] dtm: 4) PROFIT
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[08:58:00] dtm: ok i dont know whether 1 or 2 is more bizarre
[08:58:00] mchou: no. I dont want any more PCI cards :)
[08:59:00] dtm: lalala
[08:59:00] thechris: 2 solutions, move to pvr500s, or get another mobo.
[08:59:00] mchou: but I'll take usb if it works reliably :)
[08:59:00] thechris: ok, 3 solutions.
[09:00:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: BTW, I've heard that the new Plextor stuff works nicely too.
[09:00:00] mchou: bah, plextor aint new
[09:00:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: And it records in MPEG2/4/DivX
[09:00:00] mchou: at least 1 yr old
[09:00:00] JoshTriplett: mchou: Fair enough; I'm just pointing it out as another option. :)
[09:01:00] mchou: price for plextor has been going down, though
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[09:01:00] mchou: if usb works I intend to sell my pci cards
[09:02:00] dtm: mchou: why?
[09:02:00] mchou: cause I wanna use an old lappy as stb :)
[09:03:00] Guyfromhe: wow theres ALOT of movies on tv
[09:03:00] thechris: obviously for more sata controllers for a 10TB server
[09:03:00] thechris: ;)
[09:03:00] mchou: thechris: no joke
[09:03:00] mchou: tis true
[09:03:00] dtm: i have a low end system which will be a myth backend, just for hardware pvr and output to nfs. do i need qt-devel, mysql-devel, or any gui libs at all?
[09:04:00] dtm: on that host
[09:04:00] Captain_Murdoch: anyone here running Myth with ivtv on a SMP box?
[09:04:00] dtm: or can mysql and everything else be on the frontend host
[09:04:00] mchou: dtm: why would you want mysql on frontend?
[09:04:00] dtm: mchou: because i dont want it on my backend
[09:04:00] mchou: move all that non-gui stuff to a server
[09:04:00] dtm: mchou: the backend is 233 MHz G3 with about 128MB RAM
[09:05:00] dtm: it just needs to stream
[09:05:00] thechris: 10TB. thats like a year of tv...
[09:06:00] mchou: 233Mhz G3 is roughly 500Mhz Intel, right?
[09:06:00] mchou: that's plenty for mysql (for myth)
[09:06:00] dtm: mchou: oh i dont know. depending on what you're doing it's something in that direction
[09:06:00] dtm: mchou: that doesn't matter, as i wont install it there
[09:07:00] mchou: dtm: suit yourself
[09:07:00] dtm: yes sir!
[09:07:00] mchou: my backend is a P3 800Mhz
[09:07:00] Guyfromhe: my backend is a P3 500 mhz
[09:07:00] Guyfromhe: it's also my frontend
[09:07:00] mchou: and has more than enough juice to go for pvr150s and mysql
[09:08:00] mchou: four^^
[09:08:00] mchou: and my mail server :)
[09:08:00] dtm: mchou: yep
[09:09:00] Guyfromhe: mines running on a pvr350 and a 150
[09:09:00] Guyfromhe: 2 tuners is nice, isn't 4 a bit excessive?
[09:09:00] mchou: Guyfromhe: nice
[09:09:00] dtm: hmm i hope 360MB is enough to build mythtv in
[09:09:00] Guyfromhe: how often are 4 differnet shows you wanna watch at the same time on?
[09:09:00] Captain_Murdoch: Guyfromhe: it only takes once if it misses the one your wife wants to record.
[09:09:00] mchou: Guyfromhe: only 2 are ever in use at the same time, really
[09:10:00] Guyfromhe: ahh
[09:10:00] Guyfromhe: other 2 just for fun?
[09:10:00] dtm: mchou: so what exactly is your strategy
[09:10:00] mchou: but the new tv season hasn't started :)
[09:10:00] Guyfromhe: ah
[09:10:00] mchou: dtm: strategy for what?
[09:10:00] Guyfromhe: maybe I don't watch as much tv as you
[09:11:00] mchou: oh, I forgot to mention I also have atsc card in that box :)
[09:11:00] dtm: mchou: for having four PVRs and counting?
[09:11:00] mchou: dtm: no, I intend to get rid of the 4 PCI and substitute usb
[09:11:00] mchou: if it all works out
[09:11:00] dtm: mchou: ok so two total?
[09:11:00] mchou: less interference
[09:12:00] Guyfromhe: interference?
[09:12:00] mchou: yeah, RF noise
[09:12:00] mchou: dtm: maybe 3 pvrusb's
[09:12:00] Guyfromhe: how is USB going to get rid of noise?
[09:12:00] mchou: cause it's outside the box
[09:12:00] Guyfromhe: so?
[09:13:00] mchou: what do you mean "so?"
[09:13:00] dtm: Guyfromhe: so they're away from each other and shielded and FCC certified
[09:13:00] dtm: as opposed to not++
[09:13:00] thechris: less noise due to more distance between the electonics
[09:13:00] Guyfromhe: and your PCI cards aren't FCC certified?
[09:13:00] dtm: Guyfromhe: not to not interfere with each other!
[09:13:00] dtm: Guyfromhe: the overall system isn't FCC certified
[09:14:00] thechris: Guyfromhe: fcc doesn't say "no noise", just "limited noise"
[09:14:00] thechris: wow. people next door just now decide to have a party
[09:15:00] Guyfromhe: and how far apart are you putting these things?
[09:15:00] dtm: thechris: like screaming and bumping the wall with a bedpost?
[09:15:00] thechris: 3am, the best time to start the party
[09:15:00] mchou: father than adjacent pci slots :)
[09:15:00] mchou: farther*
[09:15:00] thechris: no, it sounds like maybe 10 people and a subwoofer
[09:15:00] thechris: they may have other speakers too
[09:15:00] dtm: mchou: farther than no cases on each device ;)
[09:16:00] Guyfromhe: the case is probably plastic
[09:16:00] mchou: Guyfromhe: ever heard of tin foil?
[09:17:00] mchou: cant do that easily with PCI :)
[09:17:00] dtm: does my backend need freetype and lame and qt and mysql?
[09:17:00] dtm: it prolly needs a mysql client doesn't it
[09:17:00] dtm: to reach the remote mysql server so it knows what to record.
[09:18:00] Guyfromhe: anyhoo i'm going to bed, have fun coating your house in tinfoil
[09:18:00] mchou: dtm: it need qt libs but not mysqlclient
[09:18:00] mchou: Guyfromhe: who said anything about the house?
[09:18:00] dtm: mchou: oh ok the frontend will control the backend recording process in realtime then huh
[09:18:00] Guyfromhe: you'll get interference from the outside too
[09:18:00] mchou: lol
[09:18:00] Guyfromhe: wouldn't want that to interferer
[09:18:00] dtm: Guyfromhe: they're ENCASED
[09:19:00] Guyfromhe: may aw well wrap the whole house
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[09:19:00] Guyfromhe: better re-run the whole coax run to your headend with quad shielded cable
[09:19:00] dtm: lol
[09:19:00] Guyfromhe: their encased in plastic
[09:19:00] thechris: good ol rg6
[09:20:00] Guyfromhe: heh rg6
[09:20:00] mchou: Guyfromhe: plastic is good enough not to cause shorts with tin foil :)
[09:20:00] dtm: mchou: ok so you're sure about
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[09:21:00] mchou: PCI is a different story :)
[09:21:00] dtm: mchou: about my backend not needing mysqlclient
[09:21:00] dtm: mchou: oh yeah myth has its own network protocol
[09:21:00] mchou: dtm: 98%
[09:21:00] Guyfromhe: you could put your PCI card in a cardboard box and coat that in foi
[09:21:00] Guyfromhe: l
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[09:22:00] mchou: Guyfromhe: then I would have enough room for 4 pci cards, would I?
[09:22:00] mchou: wouldnt*
[09:22:00] Guyfromhe: then you could build a faraday cage around y our case
[09:22:00] Guyfromhe: you'd have to move the PCI slots
[09:22:00] Captain_Murdoch: po
[09:22:00] Guyfromhe: go grab the soldering iron
[09:22:00] Captain_Murdoch: dohh
[09:22:00] mchou: dude, you dont grok it. CPU interference
[09:23:00] Captain_Murdoch: and dirty power supplies
[09:23:00] Guyfromhe: Captain_Murdoch: put them in the bath
[09:23:00] mchou: I aint worried about shit from outside.
[09:23:00] mchou: I worried about shit from inside
[09:23:00] Guyfromhe: ah
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[09:24:00] Guyfromhe: anyhoo bedtime have fun
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[09:25:00] dtm: heh
[09:28:00] dtm: do i require qmake for the backend?
[09:29:00] mchou: only if you intend to make it there :)
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[09:36:00] dtm: mchou: yeah apparently qmake is embedded deeply in the spec file, although i have no idea what it does.
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[09:38:00] dtm: building.
[09:39:00] dtm: it'll take so long for this system to build this much src that i may as well let it go all night jsut to catch the first errors
[09:39:00] dtm: ;]
[09:39:00] dtm: which i assume will exist, because i'm building a hacked up fc4 SRPM on a RH9 clone on ppc.
[09:40:00] dtm: is there a quicker way for me to watch the raw tv stream of my pvrusb2 via the lan?
[09:40:00] dtm: while this is going ;)
[09:41:00] dtm: maybe i'll build a ppc cross compiler ;)
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[09:53:00] Camisa: My load average is around 12–13 right now and I'm 0 percent idle. Should I adjust the niceness of the front end or the backend to keep TV from "stuttering"
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[09:54:00] mchou: dtm: you have an xbox by any chance?
[09:54:00] dtm: mchou: no; my friend does
[09:54:00] hari_seldon99: hi
[09:54:00] dtm: we'll set this up on there if we get a chance
[09:54:00] dtm: it'll apparently work
[09:54:00] hari_seldon99: I tried to secure my sql setup in my mythtv box & I can't access it as system root anymore
[09:55:00] mchou: dtm: do you/him play PGR at all?
[09:55:00] dtm: mchou: dont know what that is
[09:55:00] mchou: Gotham Racing
[09:56:00] mchou: that's like the marquee game for xbox
[09:56:00] mchou: kinda like gt3 for ps2
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[10:00:00] malaTG: Hi guys a question Is there a changelog for the 0.19 release or it's just the tickets on the svn site?
[10:02:00] cesman: as 0.19 isn't out, there is no changelog
[10:06:00] Camisa: Well... I changed the niceness of mythfrontend and mythbackend to -5 but that wasn't enough to keep TV from stuttering when I'm 0 percent Idle and the load is high... the ivtv encoder shows PR=5 and NI=-10 in top... how do I change the PR value of mythbackend and mythfrontend so that they do their job clean even when I'm doing other things?
[10:08:00] linagee: Camisa: get a better cpu
[10:09:00] Camisa: linagee: This p4 2.26GHz Prescott is sufficient until I can afford a dual-core dualy. :)
[10:10:00] linagee: Camisa: get a 3.4Ghz  :)
[10:10:00] Camisa: linagee: I'd love to.
[10:10:00] linagee: Camisa: then get one. or get a capture card that uses fewer resources. ;-)
[10:11:00] linagee: Camisa: just for an example, my pvr250 uses about 4% of the cpu time when recording. and that's probably from the IDE chipset! lol
[10:11:00] linagee: Camisa: the cpu is only like 1.7ghz
[10:12:00] Camisa: linagee: do you know which version of Xmame is supported with mythgame? I get a message saying that my version of xmame isn't supported.
[10:12:00] linagee: no idea
[10:13:00] Camisa: I think that you can do a whole $hitload with 2.4GHz if it's tuned...
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[10:14:00] Camisa: Even a 150MHz Pentium can be a fast fast router... most Cisco routers over the last decade were 66MHz
[10:14:00] linagee: Camisa: my router runs at 733Mhz. :)
[10:14:00] linagee: Camisa: running pfsense and it runs awesomely fast.
[10:15:00] Camisa: I haven't built a linux gateway/firewall yet... what is pfsense?
[10:15:00] linagee: Camisa: it uses m0n0wall as a base
[10:15:00] Camisa: I have to try BSD for the router.
[10:15:00] linagee: but they have more features on top of that. they have also fixed some things that have always been broken in a NAT firewall
[10:15:00] Camisa: like full-cone nat?
[10:15:00] linagee: m0n0wall is BSD based
[10:16:00] linagee: (thus so is pfsense)
[10:16:00] Camisa: cool.
[10:16:00] linagee: they both have web guis.
[10:16:00] linagee: makes it very nice
[10:16:00] Camisa: Which flavor? netbsd/freebsd?
[10:16:00] linagee: i think it's freebsd. not sure.
[10:17:00] linagee: they have a console thingy. you can choose to redirect all output from the very first prompt to serial which is REALLY nice and like a cisco. :)
[10:17:00] Camisa: I know this is off topic... but do you think replacing 14 windows servers that manage an ISPs 300 websites, 900 domains and 3000 e-mail accounts can be done by a single linux?
[10:17:00] linagee: you can reset the state of everything if you screw things up in the gui, thus you really can't fsck it up too badly.
[10:17:00] Camisa: linagee: I'll set it up for one of my next projects, thanks for the tip. :)
[10:17:00] linagee: Camisa: yes. get a unisys es7000 or an egenera blade server or an ibm blade, or a dell 1855. :)
[10:18:00] linagee: Camisa: one of those will fit you nicely. :)
[10:18:00] linagee: (dell 1855 blade)
[10:18:00] Camisa: linagee: workin only on spare x86 hardware... but nice x86 hardware...
[10:18:00] Camisa: canonical x86... like regular form factor machines.
[10:18:00] linagee: (es7000 is not a blade, it's a fscking big box with a ton of cpus in it that act like one cpu. can run linux in it too. VERY fscking fast.)
[10:19:00] linagee: possibly.. fastest
[10:19:00] Camisa: how much?
[10:19:00] Camisa: $$$
[10:19:00] linagee: not sure. i think they have an estimator on their site
[10:19:00] Camisa: lol
[10:19:00] Camisa: those IBM blades are around 7K each... and another 7K for the chasis with a router.
[10:20:00] linagee: Camisa: exactly. you can't tie them together like one big one though
[10:20:00] Camisa: That's not an option for my budget.
[10:20:00] linagee: the dell 1855 can have a fibrechannel switch connected to all the blades. i'm fairly certain the ibm blades can do the same too.
[10:20:00] Camisa: That'd rock...
[10:21:00] linagee: which means fast interblade communication and/or fast SAN communication
[10:21:00] Camisa: what would you do with all that?
[10:22:00] Camisa: I'd get tired of transcoding pretty quick.
[10:22:00] linagee: Camisa: run a business, large database servers, etc.
[10:22:00] Camisa: I'd have to learn pov-ray... and
[10:22:00] linagee: oracle sometimes
[10:22:00] Camisa: then play 3d guy for a while.
[10:22:00] Camisa: If you didn't have oracle as an option, would you choose postgress or mysql?
[10:23:00] linagee: Camisa: i heard of someone who had a quake server on an es7000 once, but i think he was just trying it out. :)
[10:23:00] linagee: (imagine windows running with 32 procs. LOL)
[10:23:00] Camisa: Imagine having to restart that thing 32x as often as you do for windows on one proc.
[10:23:00] Camisa: lol
[10:24:00] linagee: Camisa: it's actually very stable
[10:24:00] linagee: Camisa: a few people even have two and cluster them "just in case". they want extra extra stability
[10:24:00] Camisa: I would love to check out the development labs at M$ just to see their toys that really can perform.
[10:24:00] linagee: Camisa: they are in bed with microsoft just to make windows run with so many procs. lol
[10:25:00] Camisa: I suppose if I needed to heat a barn and wanted a couple of affective distcc nodes, an es7000 would be very sexy.
[10:25:00] linagee: ROFL
[10:26:00] linagee: Camisa: if you wanted nodes i'd go with a blade system
[10:26:00] linagee: Camisa: distcc would work with that. this wouldn't need that. just use gcc
[10:26:00] linagee: gcc -j <large number>
[10:27:00] linagee: that should start a few gcc threads
[10:27:00] Camisa: I do -j5 on this hyperthreaded p4 with nptl.
[10:27:00] Camisa: It's nice...
[10:27:00] linagee: lol
[10:27:00] linagee: weird. i remember seeing a pricing tool...
[10:27:00] Camisa: With that much processing power, you'd only need the bank for a loan only a short while... you can muscle more economy than them as soon as you make it work for you.
[10:28:00] linagee: Camisa: hahaha. a bank loan on the bank's iteration of this hardware? :)
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[10:30:00] Camisa: I'm waiting for the day when you can emerge a proc from a 2-ton lump of sand...
[10:32:00] Camisa: Do you have an es7000?
[10:33:00] Camisa: If I had one of those it would be useless without at least a display 100 times bigger than anything I've ever used.
[10:36:00] linagee: i don't think it's for display
[10:36:00] linagee: i think it's for cpu power
[10:36:00] linagee: in fact, i'd have no idea if it has an AGP or PCI Express slot
[10:36:00] Camisa: It should have lasers.
[10:36:00] Camisa: lol
[10:36:00] linagee: lol
[10:36:00] linagee: lasers?
[10:37:00] Camisa: and 20 acre antenna arrays.
[10:37:00] malaTG: does anyone here know the nvidia driver well?
[10:37:00] linagee: Camisa: huh?
[10:37:00] Camisa: That's a lot of math with a lot of practical physical applications.
[10:37:00] Camisa: malaTG: I have it on Gentoo running fine.
[10:37:00] Camisa: linagee: antenna arrays.... make you own Northern Lights affect...
[10:37:00] Camisa: linagee: investigate project HAARP
[10:38:00] malaTG: Is there an option to move the picture a bit on the TV since I can't move it on th TV :-)
[10:38:00] linagee: Camisa: oic. drain the neighbor's power... lol
[10:38:00] Camisa: malaTG: with my card, my picture doesn't fill up the whole screen on the TV...
[10:38:00] Camisa: malaTG: but nvidia control lets you move the picture around.
[10:39:00] malaTG: what is the option called?
[10:39:00] cesman: \me build SVN 8516
[10:39:00] Camisa: malaTG: the package is nvidia-settings. I don't think you specify it in your xorg.conf... but rather in the nvidia controller.
[10:39:00] malaTG: ok thx!!
[10:40:00] Camisa: welcome
[10:40:00] cesman: shit I've been working with Windows too much as of late
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[11:33:00] dtm: does anyone here follow the Fedora Myth(TV)ology howto, or use the mythtv rpms at ATrpms? is that the best way?
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[11:34:00] qupada: well if nothing else it's going to save you half an hour or so compiling it
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[11:39:00] qupada: although if you do choose to compile it, since there is a chance you will end up compiling it more than once, there is one thing i will recommend, it's called ccache. http://ccache.samba.org/ . it saves compiled code so if the same file is compiled later it can be pulled from cache instead of the obviously slower recompile. cut recompile/install time from 25 minutes to 2 (gentoo amd64)
[11:42:00] dtm: qupada: i will compile it because it's on my powerbook.
[11:43:00] dtm: and i'd be surprised if it was only 30 minutes at 233 MHz !  :-o
[11:43:00] dtm: hehe
[11:43:00] qupada: well maybe not, i have a 2.4GHz athlon64
[11:50:00] laga: dtm: are you sure this is going to work? i don'
[11:50:00] laga: t know much about ppc, aber 233 sounds umm insufficient
[11:50:00] dtm: i can get a perfect stream written out to 10Mbps nfs, while compiling! \o/
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[12:05:00] t00m: hi
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[12:05:00] t00m: anyone using netgear wireless access points or routers?
[12:05:00] t00m: wiht linux
[12:17:00] laga: what do you mean? hacking them to run linux?
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[12:26:00] t00m: erm
[12:27:00] t00m: hooked up to a linux
[12:27:00] t00m: doesn't matter :)
[12:27:00] t00m: i was confused
[12:28:00] t00m: i was thinking about getting a usb wireless thingy. that's why i was concerned about the operating system but i guess it doesn't matter if i'm getting an access point
[12:29:00] t00m: just add the firewall rule and that's it, right?
[12:36:00] Xenna2: what firewall rule?
[12:40:00] t00m: deny all traffic except from one defined ip address
[12:40:00] t00m: or maybe mac
[12:40:00] t00m: meditate on this i will
[12:47:00] Xenna2: You mean you want to remotely access your mythtv box?
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[12:51:00] laga: MAC won't work over the internet
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[13:01:00] rjmunro: I'm not getting sound out of my tuner card when MythTV is running. It works when xawtv is running. If I send audio from another source into my sound card MythTV will play it back with the video that it records at that time.
[13:02:00] rjmunro: Ie. MythTV is correctly recording from my sound card, it's just not telling the tuner card the right thing for it to pick up sound from over the air.
[13:04:00] t00m: eh.. it's nothing todo with myth :)
[13:04:00] t00m: just want to surf in the backyard
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[13:33:00] laga: t00m: you probably don't need to fiddle around with firewall rules, though. wpa could be sufficient. a VPN would be a neat thing to do as well
[13:37:00] t00m: yeah, i'll see
[13:37:00] t00m: first i need to get one of that things ;)
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[14:33:00] maino82: does anyone know why mythbackend would be randomly shutting down during a recording?
[14:38:00] dopez: maino82: check the log files?
[14:39:00] dopez: or the output of mythbackend
[14:39:00] maino82: i looked under the mythweb backend logs and theres nothing there... where else would it show me the output?
[14:40:00] dopez: run the backend with more verbose logging, that should probably help (mythbackend -v help)
[14:40:00] maino82: ok thanks
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[15:17:00] Goose-Npa: finally found the best solution
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[15:34:00] GreyFoxx: Best for what ?
[15:37:00] Goose-Npa: transconding
[15:37:00] Goose-Npa: your method works well and is faster
[15:40:00] GreyFoxx: ahhh
[15:42:00] Goshen: Has anyone made a page of good transcoding settings? I the only one I saw kept the quality too high, I need a good setting for my kids cartoons
[15:42:00] Goshen: don't want much quality there :)
[15:43:00] Goshen: I haven't played with the resolution much, just the bitrate, the file sizes are still a little big
[15:43:00] Igg-man: I'm trying to setup digital output on my SIS1704, but alsamixer doesn't seem to show the output
[15:44:00] Igg-man: I can unmute the digital audio, but I don't ever hear anything
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[15:46:00] Igg-man: argh... I think its time for a break. I'll just hook up the analog
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[15:52:00] Jazbo: Hiya folks, I'm trying to burn a CD and it looks like I need to know the "SCSI target ID" of my drive. Anyone know how to determine this?
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[15:56:00] Jovana: Someone please help on dvb problem?
[16:01:00] Igg-man: Jazbo: What are you using to burn with?
[16:01:00] Igg-man: Jazbo: try 'cdrecord -scanbus'
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[16:07:00] Jazbo: Igg-man: I'm using cdrecord. cdrecord -scanbus returns among other things:
[16:07:00] Jazbo: cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver
[16:07:00] Jazbo: And doesn't seem to give any useful info
[16:08:00] Jazbo: Hmmmm pg* is parallel port which I don't think I want
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[16:25:00] Jazbo: Anybody know what a good channel for cdrecord help would be? My computer is on the verge of experiencing flight from our second story windw
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[16:33:00] illogic-al: hi.
[16:33:00] illogic-al: i just lost sound
[16:33:00] illogic-al: how do i get it back>
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[16:36:00] ** Juski has a pvr150 now **
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[16:37:00] kcody: anyone had any luck with comcast ondemand via mythtv?
[16:37:00] Juski: ondemand? not likely I reckon
[16:38:00] kcody: Juski: their mpeg bitrate sux... it works, but with serious ghosting and artifacts, via composite input
[16:39:00] Juski: ghosting? got a pvr card?
[16:39:00] kcody: yup
[16:39:00] kcody: no ghosting on any other type of input
[16:39:00] Juski: turn the temporal DNR down (or off)
[16:39:00] kcody: it actually looks like digital moire
[16:39:00] Juski: ok then.. try another cable
[16:40:00] kcody: nope... if turning off the DNR doesn't work then only firewire can help
[16:40:00] kcody: moire = the interaction between two passes of digitzing, most often seen in print work
[16:40:00] Juski: I mean another lead for the composite input
[16:41:00] kcody: Juski: gold plated cable, that's not the problem
[16:41:00] Juski: could also be a ground loop
[16:41:00] kcody: and it's only ondemand: live tv through the comcast box looks gorgeous
[16:41:00] Juski: wavy lines across the picture?
[16:41:00] kcody: Juski: no, i mean image repeating, like stamping
[16:41:00] Juski: ah
[16:41:00] Juski: take it up with comcast then ;)
[16:42:00] kcody: Juski: getting weak diagonal lines (probably the DNR) and scrolling horizontal bars (probably line noise from not having a broadband filter)
[16:42:00] Juski: ground loop, that's what it sounds like to me
[16:42:00] kcody: that's from the pvr's own tuner
[16:42:00] kcody: Juski: really... that's possible, no idea what to look for... this bldg is an antique
[16:42:00] kcody: predates electricity, i'm sure
[16:43:00] Juski: try disconnecting everything but the composite lead.. and unplug the TV from the cable box if it's connected
[16:43:00] kcody: no tv; i'm using a monitor for display
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[16:43:00] ** Juski looks for an ubuntu ivtv guide **
[16:43:00] Kel-kippin: you get a card Juski?
[16:43:00] kcody: we can rule out everything but the cable system itself and the capture card settings
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[16:44:00] kcody: everything's on the same surge protector, no idea about the grounding for the outlet or the cable feed
[16:44:00] Juski: Kelerion: most certainly did ;-)
[16:44:00] Kelerion: nice one :)
[16:44:00] Kelerion: I've got the 250 running under ubuntu.. so if you need help – just shout
[16:45:00] Juski: I'll be sure to
[16:45:00] Kelerion: although you'll probably crack it.. it's not too difficult
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[16:46:00] kcody: Juski: the scrolling bars from the ground loop? would that explain why it's not always present but when it is it's on all channels?
[16:46:00] Juski: kcody: maybe
[16:46:00] kcody: does 'ground loop' here mean two different grounds, or a disconnected ground?
[16:46:00] Juski: kcody: grounding is best done in one common place.. groundloops happen when there's more than one path to ground
[16:47:00] kcody: meaning can i solve this by grounding the splitter to the outlet
[16:47:00] Juski: kcody: maybe
[16:47:00] Juski: if you have a voltmeter, check for voltages across the different grounding points first
[16:47:00] Juski: check for DC & AC offsets.. and take care
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[16:48:00] kcody: yeah ;) good advice, that last
[16:48:00] kcody: don't have a dmm anymore though
[16:48:00] kcody: could test it with a coathanger though
[16:48:00] Kelerion: Jusku: do the "apt-get install ivtv" install the firmware to "/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware"..add the modules entry.. reboot.. check dmesg and it should be done :)
[16:49:00] Kelerion: or download ivtv and compile. .thats what I did
[16:49:00] Juski: Kelerion.. there's no package for ivtv as far as I can tell
[16:49:00] kcody: btw i'm also playing with ivtv-0.5.x under gentoo... working with the v4l snapshot stuff now
[16:49:00] Juski: building it meself
[16:49:00] Kelerion: nope.. yer right.. it's not there
[16:49:00] ** Juski isn't planning on upgrading his kernel juuust yet **
[16:50:00] Kelerion: am running fine on 2.6.12-10–386.. no point upgrading as it's all working fine and dandy
[16:50:00] kcody: Juski: got 0.4.1 working last night... not sure if it mattered but the native hotplug seems cleaner
[16:50:00] kcody: <-- bleeding edge junkie
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[16:50:00] jcsmith: juski: here is a decent link for building ivtv on ubuntu http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/19/31/
[16:50:00] jcsmith: you may have seen it already tho
[16:51:00] Juski: jcsmith: thanks.. already following it
[16:52:00] ** Juski grabs the kernel sources **
[16:52:00] jcsmith: juski: no problem, i found it to be fairly helpful
[16:52:00] Juski: jcsmith: installed ubuntu, followed their guide & had mythtv working in less than 2 hours from a flat HDD
[16:53:00] Juski: Kelerion: do you have any other tuners – non-PVR ones I mean.. I'm anticipating issues with tveeprom
[16:54:00] jcsmith: juski: yea, i already had ubuntu installed on the system i'm making a mythtv out of and had it basically working in about an hour and 1/2, i still need to tweek and get the remote working
[16:54:00] jcsmith: but work has been less than pleasent lately, 7 strait 12–14 hour days leaves little time to play with myth
[16:54:00] ** Juski has yet to get a remote working on his 'ubuntu box... but will, in time for the LUGRadio live show **
[16:56:00] jcsmith: my goal for today is to get the remote working and there is this really annoying blue line on the left of all of my video that i've gotta figure out how to get rid of
[16:56:00] ** kcody has the pvr150mce remote working... but no outgoing i.r. **
[16:56:00] Juski: I think that guide has something missing.. namely unpacking the kernel source & symlinking
[16:57:00] ** Juski is dead wrong.. oops **
[16:57:00] Juski: see how easy it is to miss how-to steps?
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[16:58:00] kcody: *sigh* v4l ties into alsa now... grr.
[16:59:00] Juski: oo.. pastebin required
[17:01:00] Juski: http://pastebin.com/495057
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[17:04:00] Juski: shit. missed out another step
[17:04:00] ** Juski takes it easy **
[17:04:00] Juski: nope... still same
[17:09:00] ewhitten: has anyone been able to install mythtv on ubuntu breezy lately? It seems like half the mythtv packages aren't at the same version.
[17:09:00] Juski: ewhitten: use the multiverse repository
[17:10:00] Juski: and use apt-get rather than synaptic
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[17:11:00] ewhitten: yeah, I've had it installed for awhile.. multiverse is enabled, but trying to 'apt-get install mythtv' tells me that there are unmet dependencies.
[17:12:00] ** Juski had no problems doing that **
[17:12:00] ewhitten: when did you install last, out of curiosity?
[17:13:00] Juski: ewhitten: last week or the week before
[17:13:00] ewhitten: yeah, this happened to me middle of last week.
[17:13:00] Juski: hm
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[17:13:00] ewhitten: before that, I was up and running for months.
[17:13:00] ewhitten: what version do you have?
[17:14:00] ewhitten: half of the available packages showing for me are 0.18.1–5, and the rest are 0.18.1–8
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[17:16:00] Juski: ewhitten: I think that's okay
[17:17:00] ewhitten: well, except that mythtv-frontend-0.18.1–8 says that it depends on mythtv-common-0.18.1–5, which isn't available.
[17:18:00] Juski: ah
[17:18:00] ewhitten: mythtv-database: Depends: mythtv-common (= 0.18.1–5) but 0.18.1–8 is to be installed
[17:18:00] ewhitten: most of the mythtv-* packages are saying that. That dependency should be updated, I'd think.
[17:20:00] ** Juski forget to get the kernel headers **
[17:20:00] ** Juski slaps himself **
[17:20:00] ewhitten: whoops. :)
[17:20:00] Juski: use 40pt text, howto writers...
[17:20:00] Juski: ;)
[17:20:00] ewhitten: do you have the mythtv-common version I need by any chance?
[17:20:00] Juski: ewhitten: I'm using SVN on this box now
[17:20:00] jcsmith: i installed it week before last no problem
[17:21:00] Juski: gah.. still getting errors
[17:21:00] ewhitten: Juski: no problems compiling? stable or daily?
[17:21:00] Juski: ewhitten: head
[17:21:00] Juski: no probs compiling
[17:21:00] Juski: once I got all the libraries
[17:22:00] ewhitten: when you did ./configure, did it say no to all video output options?
[17:22:00] ewhitten: I've pulled in every library I can think of, set env. variables, everything.
[17:23:00] Juski: compiling ivtv now
[17:24:00] Juski: ewhitten: no.. it just sorta worked
[17:24:00] ewhitten: oi.
[17:24:00] ewhitten: I'm tempted to switch to knoppmyth, but worried that setting up ivtv/lirc is going to be annoying.
[17:24:00] Juski: as I've often said, knoppmyth is no magic bullet
[17:25:00] ewhitten: that and I'd have to backup about 150GB worth of shows, movies, etc.
[17:25:00] Juski: I doubt the ubuntu packages will be borked for long
[17:25:00] Juski: if indeed they are borked
[17:25:00] ewhitten: right, I've been refreshing that almost daily to see if they're fixed.
[17:26:00] ewhitten: as much as I'd like to, I can't dump that entire season of "Desperate Housewives" on the box. :-P
[17:26:00] Juski: if I could remember where to look I'd tell you which repositories Ive got
[17:26:00] ewhitten: i've got universe and multiverse, plus hoary-backports.
[17:26:00] ewhitten: hmm.. I wonder if that could be causing a problem..
[17:26:00] Juski: maybe
[17:27:00] Juski: I've just got universe & multiverse I think
[17:27:00] Juski: I definitely remember NOT enabling hoary backports
[17:28:00] ewhitten: okay, I disabled backports, but it's still a little messed up. I think I might be able to force some lower versions to get me back up, at least.
[17:29:00] Juski: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[17:29:00] Juski: deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[17:29:00] \Grooby\: i have ivtv 0.4.0-R2 right now on my gentoo box
[17:29:00] Kelerion: Juski: how's it going?
[17:29:00] \Grooby\: is it worth upgrading to R3?
[17:29:00] Juski: and deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[17:29:00] Juski: deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[17:29:00] Juski: Kelerion: okay thus far.. had a slight stumble but I sorted it
[17:29:00] Kelerion: good good :)
[17:30:00] Juski: modules are compiled anyway
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[17:31:00] a1fa|64: hey gyts
[17:31:00] a1fa|64: looks like SVN version records any channel you are watching constantly
[17:32:00] a1fa|64: but never erases it
[17:32:00] a1fa|64: when the show is over
[17:32:00] GreyFoxx: it does
[17:32:00] GreyFoxx: just not immediately
[17:32:00] ewhitten: whoo, packages in, now that I downgraded mythtv-common
[17:32:00] GreyFoxx: I think there is a 1–7 day configurable expiry setting
[17:32:00] a1fa|64: hm.. it filled my 80 gb hd overnight
[17:32:00] a1fa|64: :P
[17:32:00] a1fa|64: i left it on channel 17
[17:33:00] ewhitten: no, not channel 17!
[17:33:00] ewhitten: ;)
[17:33:00] a1fa|64: and it recorded all shows
[17:33:00] a1fa|64: i was watching jerry springer this morning from last night
[17:33:00] ewhitten: oh, the humanity!
[17:33:00] a1fa|64: anyway to disable this?
[17:33:00] GreyFoxx: LiveTV shows will get expired first, so as the space is needed they will be removed
[17:34:00] Juski: hmm.. warnings about modules already existing
[17:34:00] ewhitten: compiling ivtv?
[17:34:00] a1fa|64: not really man
[17:34:00] a1fa|64: the screen just freezes up
[17:35:00] a1fa|64: when the HD is full
[17:35:00] Juski: ewhitten: yup
[17:35:00] Juski: compiled it.. all went cleanly
[17:35:00] Juski: just trying to figure out what to do about this:
[17:35:00] Juski: I already need the tveeprom module for my other tuner
[17:35:00] Kelerion: Juski.. whats the command to restart a remote X? "killall -9 X" doesn't seem to work under ubuntu
[17:36:00] ewhitten: I usually ssh in and /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:36:00] Juski: Kelerion: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:36:00] Juski: hmmm... I can't just rename a kernelmodule can I?
[17:36:00] a1fa|64: killall -9 is SIGHUP
[17:36:00] a1fa|64: you will kill it
[17:37:00] Juski: I mean.. not if I want both versions to still work
[17:37:00] a1fa|64: literally.. its not a clean shutdown
[17:37:00] a1fa|64: kill <pid>
[17:37:00] a1fa|64: or killall X
[17:37:00] Jovana: someone running dvb under mythtv?
[17:37:00] ewhitten: not as graceful.
[17:37:00] Juski: Jovana: yeh but I'm busy
[17:38:00] a1fa|64: ok
[17:38:00] Juski: post your question anyway
[17:38:00] a1fa|64: back to the question
[17:38:00] Jovana: okay, great I will come back later. Is that okay by you?
[17:38:00] a1fa|64: how can i make the shows expire faster? recording profiles under LiveTV?
[17:38:00] Juski: Jovana: post your query anyway.. might be a quickie
[17:38:00] Jovana: okay great
[17:38:00] Juski: a1fa|64: it's done by free space... just make the threshold bigger
[17:38:00] Jovana: I think al is working but I can't get no picture
[17:39:00] Jovana: there is something wrong with the video stream
[17:39:00] Juski: Jovana: you need to test it with the dvb utilities from linuxtv.org/dvb
[17:39:00] a1fa|64: Jovana is a pretty name.. where r u from?
[17:39:00] Jovana: Holland
[17:39:00] Juski: use scan, to scan for channels, then use tzap (for DVB-T), szap (for DVB-S) or czap for DVB-C
[17:40:00] Juski: or dvbscan as they call it now
[17:40:00] a1fa|64: Jovana: cool.. very eastern european name :P
[17:40:00] Jovana: yes al that is working
[17:40:00] Juski: right.. have you scanned for channels in mythtv?
[17:40:00] Jovana: scan for channels work
[17:40:00] Jovana: I can zap to a channel
[17:40:00] Jovana: no not yet
[17:40:00] Juski: well that's why it doesn't work
[17:40:00] a1fa|64: so LiveTV profiles can handle this?
[17:41:00] Jovana: It will not work
[17:41:00] Jovana: I can scan but no video stream
[17:41:00] Juski: Jovana: you using SVN or 0.18?
[17:41:00] Jovana: I have try to view using mplayer
[17:41:00] Jovana: SVN? hmm I don't knwo
[17:41:00] Juski: put it this way Jovana did you compile it yourself?
[17:42:00] Jovana: yes I dir
[17:42:00] Jovana: did
[17:42:00] Juski: where did you get the source from?
[17:42:00] Jovana: I am using gentoo
[17:42:00] Juski: it's not SVN then
[17:42:00] Jovana: okay :D
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[17:42:00] Juski: did you get 0.18.1 or 0.18.2? I think 0.18.2 is bad for DVB
[17:43:00] Jovana: lets see
[17:43:00] Juski: emerge -p mythtv
[17:43:00] Jovana: 0.18.1-r1
[17:44:00] Juski: hmmm
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: a1fa: LiveTV shows get auto expired after 24 hours (you can configure this in the frontend) OR when space is needed by another recording. You should also check your "Extra Disk Space" setting to see if myth is set to ensure some space is left empty at all times
[17:44:00] ** Juski makes a note to himself.. allegedly ivtv can use the V4L tveeprom, so here goes... **
[17:45:00] a1fa|64: GreyFoxx: mythtv-setup or?
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: BTW, kill -9 is not SIGHUP, It's SIGKILL
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: -1 is SIGHUP
[17:45:00] a1fa|64: yeah
[17:45:00] a1fa|64: SIGKILL
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: frontend
[17:46:00] Jovana: ca_zap can't get the info: http://gentoo-nl.pastebin.com/495119
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[17:46:00] a1fa|64: lirc_streamzap is fuxored w/ 2.6.15
[17:46:00] a1fa|64: so much for having a remote
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: did you have a specific reason to run 2.6.15 ?
[17:47:00] a1fa|64: apt-get
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: That is not a reason
[17:47:00] a1fa|64: well
[17:48:00] a1fa|64: via chipset is supported much better in 2.6.15
[17:48:00] a1fa|64: ;P
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: did you have a problem with the previous one ?
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: So the answer is no :)
[17:49:00] \Grooby\: hehehehe
[17:49:00] \Grooby\: don't upgrade unless you need to
[17:49:00] \Grooby\: :-D
[17:50:00] Juski: right.. time to copy the firmware
[17:51:00] a1fa|64: yeah
[17:51:00] ewhitten: any US users having trouble getting channel listings?
[17:51:00] a1fa|64: GreyFoxx: it was freezing up
[17:51:00] a1fa|64: GreyFoxx: and debian ships with bad 2.6.14
[17:54:00] kormoc: so aptget .13 or .12
[17:54:00] kormoc: or roll your own
[17:55:00] GreyFoxx: odds are whatever bug was causing the lockup it could be disabled
[17:55:00] GreyFoxx: I know that a while back nforce2 boards would often lockup if ACPI was enabled
[17:55:00] GreyFoxx: so you would either compiole without or disable it at boot
[17:55:00] a1fa|64: acpi is disabled
[17:55:00] a1fa|64: :P
[17:55:00] kormoc: noapic nolapic acpi=disabled is a nice start to tracking down bugs
[17:55:00] a1fa|64: in bios
[17:56:00] kormoc: that doesn't matter
[17:56:00] a1fa|64: oh shit? really?
[17:56:00] kormoc: if the kernel doesn't realize it's disabled, it can cause issues
[17:56:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
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[17:56:00] a1fa|64: ok
[17:56:00] a1fa|64: i will add this to grub
[17:56:00] GreyFoxx: no saying that was the cause of you particular problem, but it';s a place to start
[17:57:00] a1fa|64: now, i never used grub
[17:57:00] a1fa|64: :( how do you append this to grub?
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: google.com ?
[17:57:00] kormoc: just edit /boot/grub/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: I use lilo
[17:57:00] kormoc: and tack on the params to the kernel line
[17:58:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, once I got used to grub, I have to say, I like it much better then lilo
[17:58:00] a1fa|64: i use lilo
[17:58:00] a1fa|64: but lilo was giving me crap the other day
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: korc: grub is nice, I just don't care enough to change what came with my distro :)
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: cause it's fairly rare I have to change something related to it :)
[18:00:00] ewhitten: ... doh. would help if my zap2it subscription hadn't expired...
[18:00:00] a1fa|64: ok
[18:00:00] a1fa|64: i edited menu.lst do i need to run grub.or that is automatic?
[18:00:00] ewhitten: it's automatic
[18:00:00] a1fa|64: sweet
[18:00:00] a1fa|64: reboot time
[18:00:00] a1fa|64: one more thing
[18:01:00] a1fa|64: GreyFoxx: where do you adjust those settings (expire & space)
[18:01:00] GreyFoxx: a1fa: frontend, settings, tv settings, general
[18:01:00] a1fa|64: hm... i've been there.. couldnt find it
[18:02:00] a1fa|64: i need to adjust the dpi
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[18:04:00] a1fa|64: i set expire to 1 day
[18:04:00] a1fa|64: it was set to 7 days
[18:05:00] a1fa|64: note to self.. never leave the tv running
[18:06:00] Juski: well, no errors in dmesg about ivtv.. all good _so_ far
[18:07:00] Kelerion: got the tner entries?
[18:07:00] a1fa|64: NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded!
[18:07:00] a1fa|64: i hate hotplug
[18:07:00] Kelerion: : /dev/videoXX etc?
[18:08:00] a1fa|64: time to get mythweb
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[18:14:00] a1fa|64: where is mythweb located now?
[18:15:00] Jovana: locate mythweb :)
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[18:16:00] a1fa|64: this is funny thing
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[18:17:00] a1fa|64: i love it
[18:17:00] a1fa|64: .mpeg :P
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[18:21:00] Juski: schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
[18:22:00] ewhitten: up?
[18:22:00] ** Juski dances around the room. I mean like REALLY dances **
[18:22:00] Juski: got my 150 card working
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[18:22:00] ewhitten: haha I have a pvr150mce :)
[18:22:00] ewhitten: works great
[18:22:00] Juski: I'll have to tell Jono how to nix the tveeprom problem he had
[18:22:00] Goose-Npa: heh
[18:23:00] Juski: just got my xbox going in thru compo 1, but it works in mythtv
[18:23:00] Juski: I can go pee now
[18:23:00] Goose-Npa: what does denoising help?
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[18:24:00] Juski: but jesus.. HOW much lag? heheh
[18:24:00] Juski: sound works
[18:24:00] Juski: video quality is THE best I've ever seen from an analogue card
[18:25:00] Goose-Npa: i dont think its really necessary
[18:25:00] Juski: tried a Leadtek PVR2000 in framegrabber mode the other week (about all you can do in Linux still)... and it was SHITE compared to this.. and it cost _more_
[18:26:00] GreyFoxx: denoising is only really important if you have really noisy analog recordings
[18:26:00] GreyFoxx: I never use it
[18:26:00] Juski: next challenge.. getting this card to work in my gentoo box without breaking anything
[18:26:00] Goose-Npa: tryin to figure out some cool stuff to do with avisynth
[18:27:00] GreyFoxx: I use avisynth for putting timestamp overlays in my digital cam recordings.
[18:27:00] Juski: anyway.. **thankyou** ivtv guys very very much :)
[18:27:00] GreyFoxx: auto detects the timstamp changes and puts the new time overlay on the screen and fades out after a few seconds
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[18:29:00] a1fa|64: hehe
[18:29:00] a1fa|64: what is mod_env?
[18:29:00] a1fa|64: sets the env vars via .httacces?
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[18:36:00] a1fa|64: does mythweb work with apache2?
[18:38:00] Juski: er.. yeah it does
[18:39:00] a1fa|64: Juski: u use debian dont u
[18:39:00] Juski: ubuntu
[18:39:00] Juski: on one box.. gentoo on another
[18:40:00] laga: hi Juski
[18:40:00] Juski: gentoo apache2 is still the old gentoo format
[18:40:00] Juski: hiya laga
[18:40:00] a1fa|64: hm
[18:40:00] ** Juski shows laga his shiny new _working_ pvr150 card **
[18:41:00] a1fa|64: i cant find that mod_env tho
[18:41:00] a1fa|64: its annoying
[18:41:00] laga: Juski: wow! spiffy!
[18:41:00] Juski: I had a little trouble getting mythweb working the other day.. can't remember how I did it though :-.
[18:42:00] Juski: laga: was expecting a conflict with tveeprom that my DVB tuner uses, but just uses the V4L one instead.. works like a treat
[18:42:00] Juski: I think the tuner's not been detected properly but I can live with that since I won't be using the tuner
[18:42:00] laga: Juski: i think i should get myself one as well. only one tuner just doesn't cut it
[18:43:00] Juski: I think I'm gonna have to rehearse this by putting Gentoo on the spare box, just to be on the safe side.. don't want to break my production system
[18:43:00] laga: gentoo. bah. ;)
[18:44:00] Juski: or migrate my production system to ubuntu
[18:44:00] Juski: can't think of a good reason _not_ to do that actually, so I think I will
[18:44:00] a1fa|64: Alloveroverride
[18:44:00] a1fa|64: shit this is not working
[18:45:00] Juski: a1fa|64: I can dump my config files in a pastebin if you like
[18:45:00] Juski: or just make em available to you
[18:47:00] a1fa|64: nah :(
[18:47:00] a1fa|64: let me try to figure it out
[18:47:00] a1fa|64: its giving me 500 error
[18:48:00] kormoc: mod_env is compiled in usually
[18:49:00] kormoc: apache2 -l I think it is lists the compiled in modules
[18:49:00] a1fa|64: yup
[18:49:00] a1fa|64: its there
[18:50:00] a1fa|64: progress
[18:50:00] a1fa|64: :P
[18:50:00] Juski: a1fa|64: it can't be too hard if *I* managed it
[18:50:00] a1fa|64: its bitching about password
[18:51:00] a1fa|64: still bitching about pass
[18:51:00] Juski: which password?
[18:51:00] Juski: the DB password?
[18:51:00] Juski: or htaccess password?
[18:51:00] Juski: htpasswd foo password innit?
[18:52:00] Juski: (to set it I mean)
[18:52:00] a1fa|64: watch me get pwned
[18:52:00] a1fa|64: :P
[18:52:00] a1fa|64: dbpass
[18:52:00] splAt1 is now known as splat1
[18:52:00] a1fa|64: fixed
[18:53:00] Juski: wicked :(
[18:53:00] Juski: :) even
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[18:54:00] a1fa|64: when are new episodes of lost?
[18:55:00] GreyFoxx: wednesday
[18:55:00] Rule: Monday here ;)
[18:55:00] darkdrgn2k: i know this issnet a mythtv question, but any one know where i can find wich satalite picks up a ukranian tv show.
[18:55:00] a1fa|64: hm
[18:55:00] a1fa|64: for some reason they show up on Thursday for me
[18:55:00] ** Juski thinks they just run the same episodes with the scenes cut in a different order :P **
[18:55:00] GreyFoxx: darkdrgn2k: if you know a station that shows it you could try lyngsat.com
[18:55:00] ** a1fa|64 checks date **
[18:55:00] a1fa|64: Sat Jan 7 12:55:46 CST 2006
[18:56:00] a1fa|64: the date is right
[18:56:00] darkdrgn2k: GreyFoxx: imk there now but i found all the ukie channels there are.. but how do i mached them up to a sat
[18:56:00] GreyFoxx: somewhere on their they show the channel and the sat it's on
[18:56:00] laga: Juski: sounds like the simpsons ;)
[18:57:00] darkdrgn2k: GreyFoxx: you can sort by sat but i donno abou tby chan'
[18:57:00] GreyFoxx: I never said it wuld be easy :)
[18:57:00] darkdrgn2k: :-P
[18:57:00] darkdrgn2k: i wish provders would provice a real list
[18:58:00] ** Juski wonders if he has any cat5 cables he can butcher to feed the cable box s-vid & audio upstairs **
[18:58:00] a1fa|64: nice
[18:58:00] a1fa|64: finally mythtv is working
[18:58:00] a1fa|64: :P
[18:58:00] GreyFoxx: lyngsat-logo.com lists stations by provider
[18:58:00] a1fa|64: all i need to do is fix my streamzap
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[19:01:00] Juski: btw .. dealer where I bought my 150 card has 'Q-collect'... how basically order your stuff at a terminal in the shop using their website.. pay by card & collect there & then with no queuing (we brits love to queue apparently)... seriously nifty
[19:01:00] Rule: hmm is the EIT parser supposed to loop when it cannot tune to a serviceid ?
[19:02:00] Juski: Rule: the EIT parser is a bit of a law unto itself at the mo.. it's being looked at
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[19:02:00] Rule: just wondering
[19:02:00] Rule: it keeps retrying every second or so I think
[19:02:00] Rule: spewing debug messages in the log
[19:02:00] GreyFoxx: Not in current SVN
[19:02:00] kormoc: Juski, what are you doing in here then? Shouldn't you be waiting in a queue somewhere? :P
[19:02:00] GreyFoxx: if it can't tune it just stopps trying
[19:03:00] Juski: kormoc: lol
[19:03:00] Juski: normally the Q goes out of the door on saturdays.. but was worse today.. I just barged in
[19:03:00] Juski: we didn't evolve by waiting for everyone else ;)
[19:04:00] kormoc: we as in humans or brits? :P
[19:05:00] Juski: lol
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[19:05:00] Rule: GreyFoxx: well Im building a new svn already, just takes a while :)
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[19:06:00] BlackJudas: I'm makin' a mythtv box outta a debian install. I can get the dependencies met on the mythtv package, but I'm wondering if each of the mythtv plugins can be compiled seperately? Specifically mythmusic and mythgame?
[19:06:00] Rule: forgot which version this one is
[19:06:00] BlackJudas: (from source of course)
[19:07:00] GreyFoxx: black when compiling you can pick and choose what plugins are built
[19:07:00] Rule: hmm it might not be tuning
[19:07:00] Rule: its: Desired program #14999 not found in PAT.
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[19:08:00] Rule: its indeed not listed in the programcount
[19:08:00] BlackJudas: GreyFoxx, thanks.
[19:08:00] Rule: its a test channel of my cable company apparantly
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[19:09:00] Rule: will hiding a channel prevent EITparser checking it ?
[19:09:00] GreyFoxx: dunno
[19:09:00] Rule: I fear not
[19:09:00] GreyFoxx: but you can edit the channel and uncheck "useonairguide"
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[19:09:00] Rule: ah yes
[19:09:00] GreyFoxx: and it will never try to tune for EIT
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[19:11:00] Rule: hmm something different... when performing a "full scan on existing transports" I get duplicate channels in the db. The ones that are duplicated are the only ones that also get a different sourceid... strange
[19:12:00] GreyFoxx: 0.18(if that is what you are still running) was like 8 months ago, I don't remember that far back:)
[19:12:00] GreyFoxx: and I've never used that particular type of scan
[19:12:00] Rule: runnign svn of a week ago or so
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[19:13:00] Rule: it doesnt matter... scanning an existing transport by itself or scanning tuned on the freq of the transport does the same
[19:13:00] Rule: why would channels get a different sourceid
[19:14:00] GreyFoxx: Can;t imagine unless you'd dropped and readded a video source ?
[19:14:00] GreyFoxx: Never seen it happen
[19:14:00] Rule: nope :/
[19:15:00] Rule: but then the newly scanned one shouldnt get a sourceid of 0, which is lower
[19:15:00] GreyFoxx: no, none should get a 0
[19:15:00] GreyFoxx: definately a bug since sourceid's start at 1
[19:15:00] Rule: well there you go
[19:16:00] Rule: will try with svn of about 1h ago
[19:17:00] GreyFoxx: I'll have to start breaking out patches for the EIT changes I've made here
[19:18:00] Rule: Im very happy with EIT so far
[19:18:00] GreyFoxx: I wasn't :)
[19:18:00] GreyFoxx: too much memory, too much cpu, processed events over and over
[19:18:00] Rule: well its there, I get happy about that :)
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[19:18:00] GreyFoxx: and didn't suppose dishnet listings which is what started my playing with it :)
[19:19:00] Rule: heh
[19:19:00] Rule: I was looking at the DVB channel scanner
[19:19:00] Rule: but Ive only started learning about DVB this week
[19:19:00] GreyFoxx: there is a lot to learn
[19:20:00] Rule: I thought DVB had transport information is a sort of table somewhere
[19:20:00] Rule: s/is/in
[19:20:00] GreyFoxx: dvb has many tables
[19:20:00] GreyFoxx: and I'm sure transport stuff is there somewhere
[19:20:00] Rule: that seems to be how the STB picks up all transports... you point it at the 'master' channel...
[19:21:00] GreyFoxx: that's how myth's scan works, you point it at the start and it will roam through finding them
[19:21:00] Rule: it doesnt work for DVB-c
[19:21:00] Rule: at least not here
[19:22:00] Rule: mind you, it could be my hardware or driver
[19:22:00] GreyFoxx: unforuntately those settings are provider specific
[19:22:00] Rule: because I thing the modulation autodetect does not work
[19:22:00] GreyFoxx: and the rom on your card/receiver is programmed with where to start
[19:22:00] Rule: I need to specify the QAM
[19:22:00] Rule: mine isnt
[19:22:00] GreyFoxx: myth has to be told and most users don't know where to start
[19:22:00] Rule: you need to input it
[19:22:00] Rule: so I thought myth could too
[19:22:00] Rule: yeah ok, I knew, but it didnt work
[19:23:00] Rule: is the modulation in the tables too I wonder
[19:23:00] Rule: otherwise it falls down
[19:23:00] Rule: main channel is QAM64 and others QAM256
[19:23:00] Rule: and my autodetect didnt work
[19:23:00] Rule: thats probably it
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[19:38:00] gr0mit_home: hi there – am having probs getting knoppix-myth to run with nvidia card....it is looking for the kernael sources, but the version on the Knoppix cd does not untar cleanly...
[19:38:00] gr0mit_home: and so the nvidia compile fails
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[19:45:00] marc_in_lux: good evening
[19:46:00] marc_in_lux: I had the opportunity today to try disaster recovery from backup and am mighty proud it worked.
[19:46:00] marc_in_lux: the only thing not backed up was my /tv partition
[19:47:00] marc_in_lux: mythtv is running quite nicely, but showing all those old recordings that don't exist anymore. I seem not to be able to delete them with mythweb.
[19:47:00] marc_in_lux: can I just purge a table in mysql?
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[19:48:00] Rule: just drop the entries ?
[19:48:00] marc_in_lux: Rule, what is the table?
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[19:48:00] Rule: good Q I don't know offhand
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[20:08:00] Jusk1: oops
[20:10:00] ** laga updates a phpBB **
[20:10:00] laga: POS software
[20:10:00] Jusk1: gonna be making that script to changify cable box channels shortly
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[20:12:00] laga: hf
[20:12:00] Juski: once I ressurect the PoS box anyway
[20:14:00] laga: hehe
[20:19:00] Juski: beenden... ist done, ja?
[20:20:00] laga: ja
[20:20:00] laga: or better: "quit" or "exit"
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[20:23:00] gr0mit_home: anyone using knoppix with an envidia card?
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[20:25:00] Juski: hehe laga: I know 3 german words now :)
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[20:25:00] laga: Juski: bier, sauerkraut, beenden?
[20:26:00] Juski: meine name ist nicht homer, und ich leibe ins Manchester
[20:26:00] Juski: or something
[20:26:00] Juski: heh that's more than 3, but you get the picture
[20:26:00] laga: hehe ;)
[20:27:00] red_fox: are there any capture cards that can get HDTV from a cable box?
[20:28:00] Juski: red_fox: only firewire
[20:28:00] red_fox: Juski, ok thanks, that is what I was afraid of ;-)
[20:28:00] red_fox: have you tried firewire?
[20:28:00] Juski: nope
[20:28:00] Juski: not for TV recording anyway
[20:28:00] red_fox: yeah
[20:29:00] Juski: as an interface greatly superior to USB2, yeah
[20:29:00] red_fox: hehehe
[20:36:00] Rule: hmmm I saw that the technotrend DVB USB boxes are supported in linux... I was wondering, is USB 1.1 sufficient ?
[20:37:00] Kapsel: uhm, im having a strange problem – mythtv "works", but for some reason, only the first channel is availible even thou my chan list is full. when I start "Watch tv", it says "Tuner 0" when the picture is shown, up-arrow changes to the first channel that I have on my chanlist, but thats it. no more channels. any idea? I have not yet added the frequencies to channels.
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[20:37:00] Juski: Kapsel: you answered your own question
[20:38:00] Kapsel: Juski: really? I tried adding a few frequencies, but that did not help.
[20:39:00] Kapsel: since the frequencies are not automaticcly added when I use the tv_grab util that is being run by the backend script.
[20:40:00] Juski: that puts it in a different light then
[20:41:00] Kapsel: And in the OSD, the channelname is "1000" – that doesnt make any sense that it shows that as the channelname, no?
[20:41:00] Kapsel: Seems like it shows the chanid instead of the name
[20:41:00] Rule: same problem here
[20:42:00] Rule: seems to be a mismatch between filldatabase and tv_grab
[20:42:00] Kapsel: But im still unable to browse through the channels
[20:42:00] Kapsel: But I guess thats whjy.
[20:42:00] Rule: I fixed it in the DB
[20:42:00] Kapsel: Rule: yeah.
[20:42:00] Kapsel: Rule: oh, really? Can you explain?
[20:42:00] Rule: well it seems the incorrect tables are filled
[20:43:00] Rule: so I corrected the chanid/channum/callsign stuff
[20:43:00] Rule: you can use mythweb for that
[20:43:00] Rule: or if you want to be fast use an sql statement to fill the correct field with the contents of the incorrect ones :)
[20:44:00] Kapsel: Can you give an example of what you exactly did? My contrast + brightness + colour + hue seems totally wrong aswell.
[20:44:00] Rule: oh that was ok here
[20:44:00] Kapsel: Whats callsign?
[20:45:00] Juski: right.. a bit of insulating tape & I'll be ready to send audio & video over CAT5
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[20:46:00] Rule: Ive done that before too juski... used that cat5 that was already in the floor :)
[20:46:00] Rule: Kapsel: the short name type thing ?
[20:46:00] Kapsel: hehe, when I get this running, I really need to move the setup to a faster machine.. Im on a 800mhz now.
[20:47:00] Rule: I have one backend on a p2–400
[20:47:00] Rule: the test machine, the rest is on epia machines, also not very powerful :)
[20:48:00] gakalkag: my backend is a p2 – 350mhz :)
[20:48:00] Kapsel: INSERT INTO `channel` VALUES (1000, '2', 'E7', 1, 'TV2', 'TV 2', '/home/mythtv/.mythtv/channels/1.gif', 0, '', '001.tv.tv2.dk', 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 'Default', 0, 1, '', 0, NULL, NULL, NULL);
[20:48:00] Kapsel: thats how one of my lines look like
[20:49:00] Kapsel: anything obviously wrong there?
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[20:54:00] defII: Is there a way to run user jobs on videos in mythvideo?
[20:55:00] Juski: hey that's not bad quality there
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[20:59:00] dopez: anyone here around at the moment who could help me debug a dvb problem?
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[21:00:00] Juski: dopez: I've got a few minutes
[21:00:00] dopez: Juski: alright :)
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[21:01:00] dopez: i figured out so far, that when it goes wrong (that the program doesnt get recorded) the log file doesnt mention : CreatePATSingleProgram() , but i have no idea where to start looking why this isnt called, or found?
[21:02:00] Juski: dopez: SVN or 0.18?
[21:02:00] dopez: svn
[21:02:00] Juski: budget DVB card?
[21:02:00] dopez: yep, usb-2 card, cingergy-t2
[21:03:00] Juski: you might want to try increasing the timeout value in mythtv-setup.. default is 500msec
[21:03:00] Juski: some devices take longer to lock than others...
[21:03:00] dopez: i already made it around 20 seconds because of the live-tv problems
[21:04:00] Juski: that, and there are issues with the DVB code in SVN
[21:04:00] Juski: also – check the dtv_multiplex table to verify that all the entries have parameters other than just frequency
[21:05:00] Juski: quick one here: anyone know a way of quickly pinging a range of IP addresses?
[21:05:00] dopez: is there any usefull information or logs i could provide to the dvb/myth developers ?
[21:05:00] laga: Juski: should be possible with nmap
[21:05:00] dopez: ping -b 192.168.2.255
[21:05:00] dopez: or nmap indeed, would probably be better
[21:05:00] laga: i don't think ping -bis very reliable
[21:05:00] defII: Juski, nmap
[21:06:00] Juski: ta
[21:06:00] Juski: dopez – run mythbackend with some debug enabled
[21:06:00] defII: Speaking of the backend..
[21:06:00] Juski: do mythbackend -v --help
[21:06:00] defII: Is there a bug with the init scriot
[21:07:00] Juski: no idea
[21:08:00] dopez: Juski: at the moment i run already with -v record, also done with eit,record,siparser, didnt really provide much info (at least that made anything clearer for me though)
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[21:09:00] Juski: dopez: post something on the dev mailing list about it after checking the archive
[21:09:00] Juski: chances are it's already been reported
[21:09:00] dopez: alright
[21:09:00] dopez: (i already posted somthing, with logs yesterday, just figured i ask here too though)
[21:10:00] defII: Is there a way tp get myth to moitor other drives in the machine status page?
[21:10:00] dopez: also looked in the archives but didnt find something like this, only only 0 byte files, i dont even get a file when the record goes wrong
[21:15:00] Juski: hmmm
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[21:28:00] Juski: hmm.. seems I can't use wget for this script.. any other say to simulate clicking on a link? i.e. just send a http request?
[21:29:00] laga: Juski: what are you trying to do?
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[21:30:00] Broomy: hi all, how do i know that my country is supported in mythTV, you know so my countries tv listings and so on will show up in myth TV?
[21:31:00] Nichotin: first you need to know where you live
[21:32:00] Nichotin: and I assume you should be able to figure that out somehow
[21:32:00] Nichotin: after that, see if it is in mythtv-setup
[21:32:00] Nichotin: if you live in sweeden, where telia operates, you can use tv_grab_se, I think.
[21:32:00] Nichotin: sweden.
[21:32:00] Broomy: ok but if im not in the setup now? is there a list somewhere?
[21:32:00] Juski: laga.. simulate clicking a link in the dbox2 webpage.. like http://192.168.1.250/fb/switch.dbox2?zapto=xxxxxxx
[21:32:00] laga: Broomy: well, check xmltv.sf.net
[21:33:00] Broomy: ah ok thanks
[21:33:00] Nichotin: Broomy: tv_grab_se exists
[21:33:00] laga: Juski: wow, i'd have thought that wget works. maybe you can look at levon's patch?
[21:33:00] Nichotin: just make sure you have xmltv installed
[21:33:00] Juski: might have to dig out my PERL book, but it might be from before the internet was invented ;)
[21:33:00] Juski: laga: wget works, but I get errors from wget
[21:33:00] dasOp: Broomy: swedish listings are quite good
[21:34:00] Broomy: how do you know that ? :D
[21:34:00] Juski: and I want to treat the http daemon right so it doesn't fall over
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[21:35:00] Juski: I'll have a look at the dbox2 EPG code.. havent been in there for while ;)
[21:35:00] dasOp: Broomy: för att jag är svensk?
[21:36:00] Broomy: hehe okej, lite trög idag, inte sovit mycket :D
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[21:36:00] dasOp: but its not a country specific chan so we do use english
[21:36:00] Broomy: yes i know
[21:38:00] Juski: laga: that's gonna need C code.. would rather just use a script
[21:38:00] danieldk_: mythweb+apache2=nothing?
[21:39:00] laga: danieldk_: works fine for many people
[21:39:00] danieldk_: laga: also the svn version?
[21:39:00] laga: dasOp: "because i'm swedish"?
[21:40:00] dasOp: laga: correct
[21:40:00] laga: and he answered that he's tired?
[21:40:00] Broomy: laga: yes
[21:41:00] laga: k, thanks ;)
[21:45:00] Juski: heheh.. my book doesn't have HTTP
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[21:45:00] Juski: 1992 book doesn't have http
[21:45:00] laga: nice :)
[21:46:00] danieldk_: could you guys tell me why mythweb's php files doesn't generate any output?
[21:47:00] Juski: danieldk_: server config errors... btw congrats on getting minimyth built your own way :)
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[21:47:00] Juski: ah sod it – gonna have a rest from this
[21:47:00] danieldk_: it should work but theres nothing between the <body> tags
[21:47:00] dtm: i'm getting assembler messages while building mythtv on ppc. "{standard input}:307: Error: unsupported relocation against v0" what does that mean?
[21:47:00] danieldk_: Juski: Thanks!
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[21:48:00] dtm: that's when it's building cpu_accel.c
[21:48:00] danieldk_: Juski: is there any debugging i can turn on or the likes?
[21:52:00] dasOp: laga: learning swedish? :P
[21:53:00] malaTG: which one is sweish here?
[21:53:00] malaTG: swedish*
[21:53:00] dasOp: I am
[21:53:00] malaTG: ahh tjenare
[21:53:00] danieldk_: snyggt
[21:53:00] jcsmith: I'm guessing lines similar to the following indicate that my lirc is not loading properly? [4294708.345000] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61
[21:53:00] jcsmith: [4294708.346000] lirc_i2c: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted.
[21:53:00] jcsmith: [4294708.363000] bttv: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
[21:53:00] laga: dasOp: nope, i was just wondering ;)
[21:54:00] malaTG: danieldk also swedish?
[21:54:00] Broomy: im swedish to
[21:54:00] malaTG: hehe va kul
[21:54:00] danieldk_: nope from Denmark but live in malmö
[21:55:00] malaTG: ahhh I come from kristianstad :-)
[21:55:00] Broomy: im in the most souther part of sweden, trelleborg
[21:55:00] Broomy: the twilight zone :S
[21:55:00] malaTG: all is from Skåne......
[21:56:00] dasOp: all of skåne is the twilight zone
[21:56:00] malaTG: hehe
[21:56:00] Broomy: :D
[21:56:00] malaTG: 'where you from dasOp
[21:56:00] dasOp: 08
[21:57:00] malaTG: moving there next month
[21:57:00] dasOp: work, studies?
[21:57:00] malaTG: studies/work
[21:58:00] dasOp: nice
[21:58:00] dasOp: assume you found a place to live
[21:58:00] malaTG: doing my "examensarbet" :-) there
[21:58:00] dasOp: ah, nice
[21:58:00] malaTG: you?
[21:58:00] dtm: do we have any ppc based users here?
[21:58:00] dasOp: well I use the osx frontend
[21:58:00] dasOp: but I'm not compiling it myself
[21:58:00] dasOp: just working
[21:58:00] malaTG: ok
[22:04:00] danieldk_: i keep getting "Database setup error" unless i include the content of the .htaccess file in my apache2.conf...
[22:04:00] danieldk_: do i need to do something to "enable" the .htaccess file
[22:06:00] laga: maybe allowoverride
[22:07:00] danieldk_: hmm – yeah checking...
[22:11:00] dasOp: in 99.999% of all confs, you'd need AllowOverride so that seems a safe bet
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[22:21:00] danieldk_: yup you were right allowoverride made it use the .htaccess file
[22:22:00] danieldk_: unfortunately the page still doesn't contain any code between the <body> tags
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[22:28:00] FunkyELF: hey guys, My storage folder filled up while recording something and when I go into mythweb I have like 10 or so recordings that don't have a thumbnail
[22:29:00] FunkyELF: I have cleaned up some space but I need to get the thumbnails...anyone know what to do?
[22:29:00] dtm: i don't know all the parts to mythtv. the idea of it needing assembly is irrelevant to any application i have, so can i either shut that off or compile a lesser part of the backend?
[22:30:00] laga: assembly? what do you mean?
[22:30:00] GreyFoxx: and what "part" are you looking to get rid of ?
[22:31:00] cesman: dtm: yes in SVN you can --disable backend or frontend
[22:31:00] cesman: dvd as well
[22:32:00] fallenangel: can i pass x and y offset as parameters via command line like -geometry
[22:32:00] FunkyELF: anyone know how to make it create the thumbnails?
[22:32:00] FunkyELF: the files are there, but they are 0 bytes
[22:32:00] FunkyELF: ...in myth web, because I let my storage directory fill up
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[22:32:00] laga: FunkyELF: try deleting them
[22:32:00] GreyFoxx: then how can it create thumbnails if there is nothing to create them from ?
[22:32:00] GreyFoxx: just delete them
[22:32:00] FunkyELF: laga, deleting the 0 byte png files?
[22:33:00] laga: right
[22:33:00] GreyFoxx: ok, I thought you meant the recordings
[22:33:00] GreyFoxx: mythweb might also have a copy you can delete
[22:33:00] FunkyELF: how does mythweb know to make them? there aren't database entries somewhere?
[22:33:00] dtm: cesman: do you know offhand why it wants assembly?
[22:33:00] GreyFoxx: mythweb doesn't. It tells the backend to send them, and if they don't exist they get created
[22:34:00] dtm: cesman: what component specifically wants assembly?
[22:34:00] GreyFoxx: dtm, what do you mean by assembly?
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[22:34:00] GreyFoxx: And what are you trying to turn off ?
[22:34:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: when building cpu_accel.c, i get this assembler message: {standard input}:307: Error: unsupported relocation against v0
[22:35:00] FunkyELF: okay, deleting the .png files didn't work
[22:35:00] GreyFoxx: FunkyELF: Look to see if mythweb has a cache of the blank files
[22:35:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: i just want that to not happen. i dont have any need for media specific operations on my ppc backend. all it does is stream the mpeg2 from pvrusb2 out to nfs and change the channel
[22:35:00] meastp: Hi! Is there any way to use 'real' frequencies instead of the stupid "E5 E7 SE15 etc." ? My TV has all the correct frequencies (MHz), and I would like to use those instead of fine-tuning twice...
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[22:35:00] GreyFoxx: I think it keeps a copy
[22:35:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: that's all it needs to do.
[22:35:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: so what can i disable in order for it to ignore these ppc problems?
[22:35:00] GreyFoxx: dtm, having never compiled myth for ppc I don't know
[22:36:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: :[
[22:36:00] FunkyELF: GreyFoxx, can I just delete them from the imagecache?
[22:36:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: this would be a 100% showstopper from me using mythtv
[22:36:00] GreyFoxx: but there is an osxpackager script that might have the ./configure options for that platform
[22:36:00] laga: meastp: should work, maybe you need to convert them to hz
[22:36:00] GreyFoxx: FunkyELF: Sure
[22:36:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: what is this? i haven't found it by googling "mythtv ppc"
[22:36:00] meastp: laga: ok, but where shall I enter the frequencies?
[22:37:00] GreyFoxx: I think it's in the mythtv source contrib directory
[22:37:00] GreyFoxx: It might be in the latest svn source only, I'm not sure
[22:37:00] laga: meastp: maybe in mythtv-setup?
[22:37:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: ok
[22:38:00] dtm: GreyFoxx: google knows nothing of "osxpackager". what is that?
[22:39:00] danieldk_: well mythweb displays nothing on any of the pages and i've enabled every debugging option i could find in php.ini...
[22:39:00] GreyFoxx: actually it's osx-packager.pl
[22:39:00] GreyFoxx: a script that will build myth and the related components on osx for oyu I think
[22:39:00] meastp: laga: there is a "frequency ID" field, but that is for E6, 56, E8, 53, 11 etc
[22:40:00] GreyFoxx: but if you only want to build mythtv you can likely read it and find out what configure options it's using
[22:40:00] meastp: look here, its the "channel editor" ss http://www.differentpla.net/node/view/452
[22:41:00] laga: meastp: try putting the frequency into the freqid field.
[22:41:00] laga: frequency id, that is
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[22:42:00] meastp: I'm sure that will not work... the numbers in there are with two digits..
[22:42:00] laga: meastp: well, there must be some magic then why it works for me.
[22:42:00] meastp: oh?
[22:42:00] meastp: an example?
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[22:43:00] laga: just try it.
[22:43:00] meastp: yes, but that's in hz?
[22:43:00] laga: i think so
[22:44:00] eiggirC: I'm getting a mac soon.... hope it will work as a plain frontend. A 350 MHz G3 is a bit below minimum spec :-\
[22:44:00] meastp: 203.18 MHz is a channel on my TV-set... so 203180000, then?
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[22:45:00] twigman: does anyone know whether the ubuntumyth pacakages are still available?? The 'multiverse' set seems to be called 'backports' now, and I don't see the myth packages.
[22:46:00] meastp: I installed mythtv yesterday..
[22:46:00] meastp: (Ubuntu package)
[22:47:00] meastp: laga: I guess I'll give it a shot right away, then...
[22:48:00] twigman: meastp: could you please verify for me that this is the right line to un-comment in /etc/apt/sources.list to get to the multiverse pkgs??: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[22:50:00] jcsmith: wahoo, just got myth+lirc fully working
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[23:09:00] jcsmith: hi all, anyone else ever get a small blue line across the left and top when watching any video or live tv?
[23:09:00] jvs: jcsmith
[23:09:00] jvs: thats easy to fix
[23:09:00] jvs: just search the forums to find out the command
[23:09:00] meastp: twigman: nope, that's not right.. a sec and I'll check my list..
[23:09:00] laga: something about xvattr
[23:10:00] jvs: laga is right
[23:10:00] meastp: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[23:10:00] meastp: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[23:11:00] jcsmith: jvs: thanks
[23:11:00] meastp: laga: I tested it, and it seemed to work... but when I tuned to another channel, and wanted to go back, it looks like the channel with frequency is skipped..
[23:11:00] meastp: dunno, I'll have to test some more..
[23:11:00] jvs: jcsmith: try: xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0
[23:12:00] jcsmith: jvs: what are the forms you speak of?
[23:12:00] jvs: jcsmith: for example: www.mythtvtalk.com
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[23:21:00] jcsmith: xvattr command not found
[23:23:00] Juski: hehe.. curl command was what I needed
[23:23:00] twigman: Thanks meastp. I had tried that before. I get errors in synaptic like: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i38 6_Packages) – stat (2 No such file or directory)
[23:24:00] twigman: I'm wondering whether they've changed the repositories ln the last couple of days and it isn't caught up entirely
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[23:28:00] Juski: quick question about the 'external channel change' command.. does it pass a channel number or will it use a name?
[23:36:00] fallenangel: can i pass x and y offset as parameters via command line like -geometry
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[23:38:00] fir3st0rm: hi
[23:38:00] fir3st0rm: mythweb says that there's a conflict in the recordings
[23:38:00] Juski: fallenangel: try mythfrontend --help
[23:38:00] fir3st0rm: but i can't see where that conflict should be
[23:39:00] fallenangel: thanks, i was looking for something like that
[23:39:00] fir3st0rm: there's only one recording at that time
[23:39:00] Juski: fir3st0rm: look in 'scheduled recordings'
[23:40:00] fir3st0rm: there's only one recording
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[23:42:00] ** Juski needs to brush up on his PERL **
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[23:43:00] fir3st0rm: i don't get it
[23:45:00] dasOp: perl is a rather simple language tho
[23:45:00] dasOp: and is has a module for every silly task you ever imagined performing
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[23:46:00] fir3st0rm: anyone?
[23:46:00] fir3st0rm: ok it's a bug then
[23:53:00] Juski: fir3st0rm: the fact nobody has replied is either 1. nobody knows.. or 2. nobody who knows is awake
[23:54:00] Juski: das0p: it may be simple but I don't know it that well
[23:54:00] fir3st0rm: ya
[23:54:00] Juski: fir3st0rm: can't say I've ever had that issue myself.. SVN or 0.18?
[23:55:00] fir3st0rm: .18
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[23:55:00] Juski: only thing I can thing of is that livetv is conflicting with the recording.. but I dunno
[23:57:00] Juski: *think
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