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| [00:22:00] | Ediehow: | if i go to http://www.url.com/gallery |
| [00:22:00] | Ediehow: | i can view all pics fine |
| [00:22:00] | Ediehow: | but the pics won't show in the integrated portion through joomla |
| [00:23:00] | Ediehow: | woops |
| [00:23:00] | Ediehow: | wrong chat room |
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| [00:27:00] | sphing: | that was weird |
| [00:28:00] | jonK: | I like gallery |
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| [01:08:00] | mofu: | anyone running a ntp server on their local network?? |
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| [01:09:00] | mofu: | my frontend is pointed at my ntp server but drifts anyway |
| [01:09:00] | mofu: | backend is the ntp server and is pointed to external time servers, its fine |
| [01:09:00] | Weezey: | my front end crashes a lot. |
| [01:10:00] | mofu: | Weezey: via chipset? |
| [01:10:00] | thread: | Any ideas why watching live tv from mythfrontend lets me see less than 1 second of beautiful full-motion video complete with sound, but then freezes up causing me to have to kill it myself? Cat'ing from /dev/v4l/video0 _does_ get me the arbitrarily long mpeg file I expected. |
| [01:11:00] | Juski: | although I'm actually asleep I might aswell point out that not every crash of a system can be attributed to it having a via chipset ;-) |
| [01:11:00] | thread: | Juski: it was when I used to have a via chipset |
| [01:11:00] | thread: | :D |
| [01:11:00] | mofu: | Juski: lol, but doesn't hurt to ask as a first Q |
| [01:12:00] | Juski: | never affected any of my via based systems.. but carry on |
| [01:12:00] | Juski: | once saw a PCChips board with an Intel chipset.. didn't stop it being a piece of shit :-) |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | thread: you're asking the same people the same question over and over |
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| [01:13:00] | alpha255: | are the via cpus powerful enought for a mythtv system? |
| [01:13:00] | alpha255: | like the giggapro? |
| [01:13:00] | mofu: | thread: anything on the backend log? |
| [01:13:00] | thread: | Beirdo: yeah.. I'm hoping to get lucky |
| [01:13:00] | thread: | mofu: http://threadbox.net/log.txt |
| [01:13:00] | thread: | mofu: no. |
| [01:13:00] | Juski: | alpha255: aye.. I use an M-10k as my frontend |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | better find a woman then |
| [01:13:00] | sphing: | Juski: same |
| [01:14:00] | Weezey: | mofu: it's an asus board, not sure |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | don't expect an EPIA board to be much use for HDTV playback though.. at least not til the CN400 driver improves |
| [01:15:00] | alpha255: | hdtv seems to take up a ton of cpu |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | anyway, alpha255: some people are selling VIA based systems as PVRs, so er.. yeah |
| [01:15:00] | alpha255: | from what i've read |
| [01:15:00] | alpha255: | ahh |
| [01:15:00] | alpha255: | ok |
| [01:16:00] | alpha255: | i'm wondering if there will be a asic board that will do much of the processing seperate from the cpu |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | exactly _how_ much CPU HD playback requires _still_ isn't clear to me. 3GHz & xvmc acceleration.. or 2Ghz & xvmc.. god knows how much CPU you need to play HD MPEG4 |
| [01:16:00] | mofu: | Weezey: the reasons for spntaneous crashing are power, heat, flaky RAM, flaky Chipset/Board, probably in that order |
| [01:16:00] | alpha255: | or is that a non sensical statement? |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | alpha255: some people are saying good things about a HD picture viewer that's been adapted to work as a basic mythtv frontend |
| [01:17:00] | mofu: | Juski: my 2.8Ghz CeleronD handles HD with /Xv |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | alpha255: I know what you mean, and it ain't likely |
| [01:17:00] | mofu: | XP2400+ w/ xvmc |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | mofu: excellent |
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| [01:18:00] | Juski: | http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php & ndash; that's the fella |
| [01:19:00] | alpha255: | thx |
| [01:19:00] | alpha255: | interesting page |
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| [01:19:00] | Juski: | presumably that thing has a meaty decoder ASIC |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | like HD receivers do |
| [01:20:00] | alpha255: | ahh |
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| [01:20:00] | mofu: | at $300, its not totally unreasonable |
| [01:20:00] | alpha255: | do you think the guys who make the hd-3000 will follow with an asic like that? |
| [01:20:00] | alpha255: | on their card? |
| [01:21:00] | Juski: | maybe not |
| [01:22:00] | Juski: | the company I work for now owns a firm who make software configurable codecs.. that stuff is pretty interesting, and _could_ be interfaced to a PCI bus – though I doubt my employers would entertain the idea |
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| [01:24:00] | alpha255: | i use a fa404 that occupies the floppy drive space for reading the memory cards |
| [01:24:00] | ** braniff would like a 64bit linux wmv9 codec... ** | |
| [01:24:00] | alpha255: | it was 20 bucks at newegg |
| [01:26:00] | mofu: | http://mythroku.blogspot.com/ |
| [01:26:00] | alpha255: | 300MHZ MIPS CPU that's not very much |
| [01:27:00] | alpha255: | on that roku box |
| [01:27:00] | mofu: | doens't take much if you have the right hardware decoder, might make the menus and OSD a little sluggish |
| [01:28:00] | dmz: | anyone know if the nvidia gforce 6200 has a hardware mpeg decoder? I'd like to be able to use that to render video instead of the cpu (was using pvr350 but wanted dvi) |
| [01:29:00] | dmz: | i'm getting some blury motion @ times and figure it's mainly that |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | dmz: XVMC |
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| [01:29:00] | dmz: | xvmc? |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | X video motion compensation |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | helps with mpeg2 decoding |
| [01:29:00] | mofu: | xvmc is not 100% hardware decoding, but it helps alot |
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| [01:30:00] | Juski: | dmz: that 'blur' might just mean you need to deinterlace the video (tv playback preferences in mythtv) |
| [01:30:00] | dmz: | so the gforce 6200 doesn't have hardware? it looks like it does but i think i'm just reading it wrong |
| [01:30:00] | dmz: | i'll give that a try |
| [01:30:00] | Juski: | dmz: it has the capability to _help_ decode mpeg2 (a lot) |
| [01:30:00] | mofu: | like Juski said, xvmc |
| [01:30:00] | dmz: | and at higher res should i use xine or mplayer for my videos? |
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| [01:31:00] | mofu: | i think people prefer xine |
| [01:31:00] | dmz: | already have libxvmc[1|w] installed |
| [01:31:00] | dmz: | 6.8.2 debian |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | dmz: yeah but is mythtv even using it? |
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| [01:32:00] | dmz: | Juski, where would i confirm that? |
| [01:32:00] | mofu: | myth needs to be compiled w/ xvmc support |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | (tv playback preferences in mythtv) |
| [01:32:00] | dmz: | let me check |
| [01:32:00] | mofu: | if you didn't compile it it probably doesn't |
| [01:32:00] | dmz: | it was the old debian package |
| [01:33:00] | surye: | Hmm.. I wonder if a frontend could be written in python |
| [01:33:00] | dmz: | and where is the deinerlace, i saw it somewhere but seem to always lose it |
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| [01:33:00] | mofu: | the debian packages don |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | (tv playback preferences in mythtv) |
| [01:33:00] | mofu: | 't have xvmc support |
| [01:33:00] | dmz: | ah bugger |
| [01:33:00] | dmz: | oh well |
| [01:34:00] | dmz: | at least i can deinterlace them, what about xine? any way to have it use xvmc? |
| [01:34:00] | mofu: | ask in #xine |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | but.. even a 1GHz CPU will play back SDTV smoothly without xvmc |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | latest version of xine has xvmc built in IIRC |
| [01:34:00] | dmz: | oh and one other wierdness, i just got 1080i res working and now all my menu items have the bottom 10% of them cut off |
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| [01:35:00] | mofu: | dmz, your set has huge overscan |
| [01:35:00] | dmz: | the screen has been adjusted to fit correctly, just cuts off the bottom of the words |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | ahh |
| [01:35:00] | dmz: | mofu what does that tell me? :) |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | adjust the font size then |
| [01:35:00] | dmz: | juski i tried that but didn't seem to do anything @ all |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | in that case you need to edit the theme |
| [01:36:00] | Juski: | or use a theme which doesn't appear with text cut off |
| [01:36:00] | mofu: | to fit Myth on the screen you will have adjust the screen size in Myth, to use less |
| [01:36:00] | dmz: | i've adjusted the screen size in myth |
| [01:36:00] | Juski: | for 16:9 displays you should really use a wide theme anyway |
| [01:37:00] | dmz: | and tried 3 themes and all chop off the bottom |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | and there's but one of them freely available |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | but mine will be out soon |
| [01:37:00] | Juski: | (I mean it) |
| [01:37:00] | mofu: | dmz, you need to tell myth to use 1920x980 or something like that |
| [01:37:00] | dmz: | is hardware xvmc checkbox not the same as the other xvmc |
| [01:37:00] | dmz: | mofu i did adjust the size |
| [01:38:00] | mofu: | to what? |
| [01:38:00] | dmz: | it's set to 1765x985 with xoffset 75 and y offset 47 |
| [01:38:00] | Juski: | if mythtv wasn't compiled with xvmc support you won't see the checkbox, so if you see it, try it |
| [01:38:00] | dmz: | juski when i check it it just locks up frontend when i play anything |
| [01:39:00] | mofu: | set Y offset to Zero if its cutting off the bottom |
| [01:39:00] | dmz: | mofu not bottom of window, bottom of each menu line, every line has like 10% of the words cut off the bottom |
| [01:39:00] | mofu: | you have the box checked to use the same resolution for playback |
| [01:39:00] | Juski: | dmz: whats happenned is that the fonts have a graphic behind them – kinda like a mask.. if the box isn't big enough (which it might not be if mythtv has resized everything) then bits of fonts will get cut off |
| [01:39:00] | dmz: | mofu no i changed that to 800x600 for playback otehrwise it wouldn't work either |
| [01:40:00] | mofu: | ok, I think Juski is on the right track |
| [01:40:00] | dmz: | juski ahh, can i edit the mask info in the theme config? |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | dmz: change the font size |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | getting into editing the graphics a theme uses can take more effort than you think & I should know |
| [01:40:00] | dmz: | small/med/large font? or all |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | hang on |
| [01:41:00] | Juski: | what theme u using? |
| [01:41:00] | dmz: | hmm just tried minimalist wide |
| [01:41:00] | dmz: | and it might work :) |
| [01:42:00] | dmz: | now if i can only get my playback to no be blury |
| [01:42:00] | dmz: | and my tv guide to not be borked |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | something tells me your video output isn't really interlaced if you're getting artifacts on moving video |
| [01:42:00] | dmz: | ie when i watch live tv, and open guide, it resizes screen and only shows me the guide like 15% or so of it |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | dmz: probably the theme design to blame for that |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | 4:3 themes are designed around 800x600 @ 100dpi |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | 16:9 are for 1280x960 @ 100dpi |
| [01:43:00] | dmz: | i'll try this theme for a while and see if i can live with it :) |
| [01:44:00] | dmz: | what do you suggest about the tv guide warping out the screen |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | be able to try mine this time next week ;) |
| [01:44:00] | dmz: | you theme? sure :) |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | www.juski.co.uk |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | look at the 'coming soon' section |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | I really must go back to bed now |
| [01:46:00] | laga: | g'night |
| [01:46:00] | laga: | :) |
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| [01:47:00] | Juski: | FYI, dmz: to change the font size of the menu items, look in theme.xml and find the section <generic button> – specifically the <fontsize> attribute |
| [01:47:00] | Juski: | night laga |
| [01:47:00] | dmz: | thanks |
| [01:47:00] | dmz: | nite |
| [01:48:00] | Kelerion: | laga.. you still about? |
| [01:49:00] | laga: | Kelerion: it's expected that i get up at 2pm or something, so i should go to bed now to get my 12 hours of sleep ;) |
| [01:50:00] | Kelerion: | hey.. I get up between 1pm and 2pm.. and I only get 8 hours sleep.. lol |
| [01:50:00] | Kelerion: | did you see my msg about that script you mentioned? |
| [01:51:00] | t00m: | i got up at 730 am. that was 2 hours ago. and i had 7 hours sleep. who's next? |
| [01:51:00] | dmz: | hey, my display just borked, could someone repost juski's url he posted? |
| [01:51:00] | laga: | www.juski.co.uk |
| [01:52:00] | laga: | Kelerion: no, sorry. what message/script? |
| [01:52:00] | Kelerion: | you mentioned having a script to restart frontend if it wasn't running? (do while,mythfrontend,loop) etc? |
| [01:52:00] | Kelerion: | was wondering if you had it to hand? |
| [01:53:00] | dmz: | thanks, and anyone know of a repository of widescreen themes? |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | dmz – there's only one.. minamilist |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | as far as I know |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | until Juski finishes his |
| [01:53:00] | dmz: | bugger |
| [01:54:00] | laga: | Kelerion: umm, it should be "while true; do /usr/bin/mythfrontend; done" :). a more advanced version would be "while true; do mythfrontend; sleep 1; done" (i think). |
| [01:54:00] | laga: | the latter will avoid using all ressources if mythfrontend won't start for some reason. and make sure to use the full path there as well |
| [01:55:00] | Kelerion: | and I can just put that in bash script and load it at startup? |
| [01:56:00] | dmz: | so one last question, why would the live-tv guide resize the screen and only display the top 15% of the upper left corner? |
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| [01:56:00] | dmz: | but when i exit guide it goes back to normal |
| [01:57:00] | laga: | Kelerion: yeppers |
| [01:58:00] | dmz: | :( |
| [02:01:00] | ** Kelerion puts it into a gnome session startup so it runs as the right user and reboots to test ** | |
| [02:02:00] | dmz: | does minimalist not have a settings page? hmm |
| [02:02:00] | Kelerion: | dmz: press page down |
| [02:03:00] | dmz: | ahh |
| [02:03:00] | Kelerion: | laga: yer a genius |
| [02:04:00] | laga: | Kelerion: :) |
| [02:05:00] | Kelerion: | upped the sleep to 5 seconds and killed the frontend... bingo.. up it came again :) |
| [02:05:00] | jalex: | just put mythfrontend startup script in inittab |
| [02:05:00] | jalex: | a system should only have so many infinite loops running at a time heh |
| [02:06:00] | Kelerion: | for a frontend I doubt it's much of a problem when it's main function is to run mythfrontend |
| [02:06:00] | Kelerion: | but in general.. yeah.. not too many loops |
| [02:08:00] | Kelerion: | what I'm wondering.. am using Retro at the moment... is why it needs to rebuild the image cache everytime it loads.. have checked permissions to thats not it |
| [02:09:00] | laga: | Kelerion: i think you can set the size of mythfrontend permanently. it won't scale then anymore. |
| [02:10:00] | laga: | that's what i heard today, i haven't tried it out yet |
| [02:10:00] | Kelerion: | laga: you happen to know if "Gerhard Aldorf" who made the theme (and also isthmus) visits this channel? |
| [02:12:00] | Kelerion: | in over a year have only seem to have had 1 post on the mailing list from him |
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| [02:12:00] | Kelerion: | correction.. 6 posts.. in a year |
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| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: He's been here a couple times |
| [02:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | that I've noticed |
| [02:15:00] | Kelerion: | any idea about his nick? |
| [02:15:00] | laga: | Kelerion: i don't think so. i've seen him hanging around at mythtvtalk.com. you could just e-mail him directly |
| [02:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | hold on |
| [02:15:00] | Kelerion: | posting a comment to the mailing list anyways.. found a screen missing from his theme |
| [02:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: "gerhard" last time |
| [02:16:00] | Kelerion: | thanks |
| [02:16:00] | laga: | well, good night now. :) |
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| [02:17:00] | Kelerion: | laga: where do you set the size permanantly? |
| [02:17:00] | Kelerion: | Gui Width/ Gui Height" |
| [02:17:00] | Kelerion: | ? |
| [02:20:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. thats not it.. it's taking it about 10–20 seconds to load up the gui |
| [02:20:00] | Kelerion: | anyways.. not important |
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| [02:23:00] | quantum: | when I try to rip one of my dvd's I can't get any voices, but the music seems fine. I can usually get another language other than english o.k. as well |
| [02:23:00] | quantum: | does anyone know how to fix this |
| [02:25:00] | quantum: | seems like an issue with the en ac3 6ch |
| [02:25:00] | quantum: | I can play the DVD o.k. though, when I do that audio comes out fine |
| [02:25:00] | quantum: | is anyone oneline tonight? |
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| [02:31:00] | jalex: | twoline and stokey |
| [02:32:00] | jalex: | hah, the svn version of mythtv compiles better than the 0.18.1 tar |
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| [02:34:00] | quantum: | when I try to import a dvd I don't get any voices, this seems to be related to the "en ac3 6ch", I can do the two channel o.k. but that is usally a commentary. Also, I can play the dvd's just fine. Does anyone know how to fix this? |
| [02:36:00] | Kelerion: | quantum.. sorry.. I don't import dvd's very often |
| [02:39:00] | dmz: | what version is svn up to ? |
| [02:40:00] | xris: | subersion, or myth's revision number? |
| [02:40:00] | xris: | dmz: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline |
| [02:41:00] | quantum: | importing dvd's is really cool, if you use the medium compression it comes out to around 1GB per movie |
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| [02:43:00] | [joev]: | hello |
| [02:43:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. in Feb am buying myself a 1TB external drive.. and important my dvd collection to it.. wife *loves* the idea of having all her dvd's (and vhs tapes if I can figure an easy way to transfer them) readily accessible |
| [02:43:00] | [joev]: | I need some help with audio on my fox station |
| [02:44:00] | quantum: | I would think you could just use the composite in to record the vcr tapes, I have been meaning to try that but I had a full system meltdown |
| [02:45:00] | quantum: | 1TB, they haven't been released yet |
| [02:45:00] | Kelerion: | have done it before.. it's not rocket science.. just wanting to make it easy as I have quite a few hundred vhs tapes |
| [02:45:00] | quantum: | guess you can combine to 500's though |
| [02:48:00] | [joev]: | anyone know way audio would be muffled and choppy on fox only? Using the plus sign, +, does not switch between audio channels |
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| [02:50:00] | xris: | [joev]: what type of card? |
| [02:50:00] | [joev]: | pchdtv3000 |
| [02:51:00] | [joev]: | I added three 250 drives and then got this problem |
| [02:51:00] | [joev]: | all other channels work fine fine |
| [02:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | anybody good with myth tv for debian ? |
| [02:57:00] | xris: | [joev]: maybe the HD signal is just crappy? |
| [02:57:00] | xris: | I can't even get fox OTS |
| [02:57:00] | xris: | OTA |
| [02:58:00] | [joev]: | Signal is good. The video records fine. |
| [02:58:00] | [joev]: | It is OTA |
| [02:58:00] | [joev]: | no one else in salt lake is having trouble with it |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | no clue, then... it's not like myth is doing any compressing of the signal. |
| [03:00:00] | [joev]: | I was wondering if maybe something changed because during my HD addition, I added another pchdtv card |
| [03:00:00] | [joev]: | mythfilldatabase ran and returned nothing |
| [03:00:00] | [joev]: | after geting the HDs configured in LVM I reran mythfilldatabase |
| [03:00:00] | [joev]: | and this started happening |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | could be maxing out the pci bus |
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| [03:01:00] | xris: | might do something weird like that |
| [03:02:00] | [joev]: | dwouldn't that effect all the audio? |
| [03:02:00] | [joev]: | oh well, guess I'll dig deeper. |
| [03:02:00] | Kelerion: | general question: what commands are people using to convert a recording using nuvexport (am mainly concerned with speed but keep decent quality) |
| [03:02:00] | Kelerion: | 4.5 hours for a 1 hours recording seems tad extreme |
| [03:03:00] | [joev]: | maybe try rerunning the channel scan |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | [joev]: it might. I'm just shooting at straws here. |
| [03:03:00] | [joev]: | thanks |
| [03:03:00] | jalex: | Kelerion, you must have a fast system |
| [03:03:00] | [joev]: | thought I missed something obvious to everyone but me |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | Kelerion: defaults for xvid (because I'm the one who chose them), except with --transcode and multipass) |
| [03:03:00] | jalex: | you should see how long it takes to render a 60 minute video to DVD from a mini-DV tape... |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | it's going to be slow no matter what, especially if you turn on noise reduction |
| [03:04:00] | Kelerion: | 2.8gh should be plenty to convert them right? |
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| [03:04:00] | xris: | Kelerion: the encoders in linux are just slow... |
| [03:04:00] | Kelerion: | is transcode quicker than ffmpeg? |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | opposite |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | okies |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | but FAR better xvid export quality |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | it's about 5% slower than ffmpeg |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | if that |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | much slower for mpeg2, though |
| [03:05:00] | Kelerion: | thats not too bad in general then |
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| [03:06:00] | Kelerion: | xris – do you have it running through a user job? |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | no. I prefer to set up cutlists |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | then I just run it from the cli with --require_cutlist and it pulls my settings from nuvexportrc |
| [03:06:00] | Kelerion: | but I can manually setup a cutlist and then run the job manually right? |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | dunno. haven't messed with user jobs much |
| [03:06:00] | Weezey: | I have a PVR-350 and I want to convert to mpeg, what should I be using to do that. I've read that I can't use transcode because the .nuv files a Hauppauge card makes are actually just mpegs. I wouldn't mind keeping the commercial flaggings if possible. |
| [03:07:00] | Weezey: | (or avi, I just want to be able to burn to dvd with a windows machine) |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | you may want to look into the --force_mythtranscode option if you use --transcode, though. I've found that transcode freaks out on a lot of ivtv recordings |
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| [03:07:00] | Kelerion: | I was playing with them for the first time last night.. I setup a user job called "convert to xvid" which called a simple script.. and then ran it from the recording programs screen |
| [03:08:00] | Weezey: | kelerion; where did you get that script? |
| [03:08:00] | Kelerion: | from running nuxexport with the debug option – then replaces needed stuff with vars from job options |
| [03:08:00] | Weezey: | hmm, can you email me a copy? |
| [03:08:00] | Weezey: | weezey at weezey com |
| [03:09:00] | Kelerion: | it's one line: |
| [03:09:00] | xris: | why not just use nuvexport in cli mode? |
| [03:09:00] | Kelerion: | : /usr/bin/transcode -V --print_status 16 --import_asr 3 --export_asr 3 --export_fps 25.000,3 -Z 848x480 -i $1/$2 -x mpeg2 -j 12,14,12,14 -J smartyuv -J yuvdenoise=mode=2 -y xvid -N 0x55 -b 128,0,2,0 -R 2,/tmp/xvid.9168.log -w 960 -o "$3.avi" |
| [03:09:00] | Weezey: | cool |
| [03:09:00] | xris: | Kelerion: just be careful with transcode and ivtv recordings.. sometimes you'll get 20 megs of output and nothing else. |
| [03:09:00] | Kelerion: | I ran it with a recording (just to test).. it was an hour recording and it was perfect when it finished.. just took 4.5 hours to finish |
| [03:10:00] | Weezey: | ! |
| [03:10:00] | Kelerion: | I was planning on using it only with movies.. so god knows how long that'd take |
| [03:10:00] | Weezey: | over-nighter jobs |
| [03:10:00] | Weezey: | how much cpu do you have on that box? |
| [03:10:00] | Kelerion: | 2.8ghz seperate backend with a pvr250.. so *very* little cpu usage |
| [03:11:00] | Weezey: | damn |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | Kelerion: it depends on the idividual recordings. |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | just a warning.. happens for about 1/3 of my recordings. |
| [03:11:00] | Weezey: | what's $3 program name? |
| [03:11:00] | Kelerion: | yes..can imagine that |
| [03:11:00] | Kelerion: | %title% from user jobs |
| [03:12:00] | Kelerion: | am missing something.. thats wrong.. was messing with it earlier |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | happens enough (and the fact that transcode misses cutpoints by a second or so sometimes) that I'm considering making it the default option |
| [03:12:00] | Kelerion: | $1 and $2 are missing |
| [03:13:00] | Kelerion: | oh nope.. they are there |
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| [03:15:00] | Kelerion: | xris – am really just after the quickest export that won't take too long and that I can still archive off to an iso dvd |
| [03:15:00] | Kelerion: | not really *too* bothered about sizr |
| [03:15:00] | Kelerion: | size |
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| [03:17:00] | Netslayer: | what is mythflix and mythcontrol ? |
| [03:20:00] | Kelerion: | xris – is xvid the quickest for that purpose then? |
| [03:20:00] | quantum: | on my frontend the volume controls when I play a video (i.e. via mplayer) I cannot adjust the volume |
| [03:21:00] | Kelerion: | quantum: over optical? |
| [03:21:00] | quantum: | no, not optical |
| [03:21:00] | jalex: | okay, I am absolutely amazed – the svn version of mythtv compiled.... |
| [03:21:00] | Kelerion: | don't know then.. sorry |
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| [03:22:00] | jamesbrink: | does anyone here use a radeon 8500 with tv out? |
| [03:23:00] | Netslayer: | anyone know why my mythdvd ripper won't work for any encoding mode other than ISO? |
| [03:24:00] | Netslayer: | I stuck in my firefly dvd and went Perfect, started the job "14:36:49: launching job: job dvd 1 1 0 0 -1 /mnt/raid/pvr/movies/FIREFLY_D1" and mtd just dies..iso works fine |
| [03:28:00] | tdb30_: | Anyone using a tv-out on a nvidia card and getting decent output? Mine is slightly on the dark side. |
| [03:30:00] | Netslayer: | that's all i use (have a massive myth network setup here) |
| [03:30:00] | jamesbrink: | i have a radeon 8500 and its totaly scrambled and i have no clue why |
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| [03:35:00] | quantum: | dang this is really messed up that the dvd ripper can't do the voice track |
| [03:35:00] | Netslayer: | anyone have an idea about my dvd problem ^^? |
| [03:36:00] | quantum: | try a different quality setting |
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| [03:36:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, perfect dies, ISO is good |
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| [03:37:00] | quantum: | tb30: had not noticed a problem with mine |
| [03:37:00] | Netslayer: | no matter what i select other than ISO it dies with "Your connection to the Myth Transcoding Daemon has gone away. This is not a good thing" |
| [03:37:00] | Netslayer: | this is happening on all my boxen |
| [03:38:00] | quantum: | sounds like something is hosed with transcode or what myth is sending to it |
| [03:38:00] | tdb30_: | humm. maybe its a combo of video coming in a pvr350 and going out the nvidia. Its dim and if I try to adjust brightness or contrast the whites tend to bleed together and get washed out. |
| [03:39:00] | quantum: | are you able to get the audio voice tracks to rip correctly |
| [03:39:00] | Netslayer: | there's my transcode vers: transcode v0.6.14 (C) 2001–2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003–2004 T. Bitterberg |
| [03:39:00] | quantum: | tb30: how does it look on a monitor? |
| [03:40:00] | quantum: | have you tried a different dvd |
| [03:40:00] | Netslayer: | interesting there's apparently vers 0.6.14 and a 1.0.2 branch out now |
| [03:40:00] | ** Netslayer puts in another dvd ** | |
| [03:40:00] | Guyfromhe: | quick question I can't seem to find this exact symptom anywhere else |
| [03:40:00] | Guyfromhe: | i'm getting CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "" in the "setup" Channel Editor. in my backend log when I try changing channels |
| [03:40:00] | quantum: | I have 1.0.2, let me see what happens, I never use perferct |
| [03:40:00] | tdb30_: | I don't have a monitor. |
| [03:41:00] | Guyfromhe: | eveyrone else who has got that error has a number in the ""'s |
| [03:41:00] | Guyfromhe: | anyone seen that before? |
| [03:41:00] | quantum: | how long does it take to die |
| [03:41:00] | tdb30_: | I have recorded stuff before and played those recordings on my laptop and it did seem similar to what I see on tv. |
| [03:41:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, it dies instantly |
| [03:41:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, k that dvd didn't work either |
| [03:41:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, right when you hit 0, it dies instead of the progress |
| [03:42:00] | quantum: | tb30: start checking into your pvr 350 settings or maybe your cable is messed up etc. |
| [03:42:00] | tdb30_: | are there keys in live tv that will let me play with saturation/brightness/contrast etc on the incoming stream of the pvr350? |
| [03:42:00] | quantum: | well looks like mine works fine I have the same transcode version |
| [03:42:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, you said 1x right? |
| [03:42:00] | quantum: | you have the latest myth distribution right |
| [03:42:00] | quantum: | 1x? |
| [03:42:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, i'm running svn v 8106 i believe |
| [03:43:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, i'm on vers 0.6.14 and your on 1.0.x ? |
| [03:43:00] | quantum: | yeah |
| [03:43:00] | Netslayer: | ok i'll try emerging the new transcode |
| [03:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | oop i fixed it |
| [03:43:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, what ffmpeg vers? |
| [03:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | needed to restart backend after updating channel database |
| [03:44:00] | quantum: | ffmpeg version 0.4.9-pre1, build 4756, C |
| [03:45:00] | Netslayer: | ya i have 4743, new transcode wants a new ffmpeg and xvid.. i'll give it a shot |
| [03:45:00] | Netslayer: | thx |
| [03:45:00] | quantum: | are you able to rip the voice track o.k.? if I try the en ac3 6Ch track it never seems to work |
| [03:45:00] | quantum: | I just get the music |
| [03:47:00] | quantum: | you still there Netslayer |
| [03:47:00] | Netslayer: | yup |
| [03:47:00] | quantum: | are you able to rip the voice track o.k.? if I try the en ac3 6Ch track it never seems to work |
| [03:47:00] | Netslayer: | oh for me heh..um |
| [03:47:00] | quantum: | yeah I know you said you couldn't do the perfect quality, but for any quality |
| [03:47:00] | Netslayer: | well i stuck in a dvd, went ISO and ac3 and i think it works. although when it plays back in mplayer the encrypted section gets messed up |
| [03:47:00] | quantum: | if the audio is on that channel I am hosed |
| [03:48:00] | Netslayer: | let me try iso ac3 |
| [03:48:00] | Netslayer: | en ac3 6ch w/ ac3 audio checked |
| [03:49:00] | quantum: | what do you mean by iso? |
| [03:49:00] | Guyfromhe: | oooh new mythtv is nice |
| [03:49:00] | quantum: | is that on the config page or something? on the rip/transcode page that is not one of the selections |
| [03:50:00] | quantum: | mythtv seems to runn a lot better on FC4 for some reason than fc3 |
| [03:51:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, iso is the quality level..no recompression |
| [03:51:00] | Netslayer: | it's ripping for me.. |
| [03:51:00] | Netslayer: | Quality: ISO Image |
| [03:52:00] | quantum: | oh, o.k. |
| [03:53:00] | quantum: | oh, I was just trying the preview option |
| [03:53:00] | Kelerion: | xris: why would: "/usr/bin/nice -n19 mythtranscode --showprogress -p autodetect -c "1097" -s "20060101200000" -f "/tmp/userjob1/" --honorcutlist" |
| [03:53:00] | Kelerion: | give: Couldn't find recording 1097 Fri Oct 20 00:00:00 2006 |
| [03:53:00] | Kelerion: | 1097 is the channid right? |
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| [03:55:00] | quantum: | dang takes me 15 minutes to copy a dvd |
| [03:55:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, does the ripper work on most dvds? |
| [03:56:00] | Netslayer: | i got too many dvds around here heh |
| [03:56:00] | Kelerion: | oh ok.. reading that errors msg wrong |
| [03:56:00] | quantum: | yeah the ripper works on most dvd's except I can never get the voice channel except on older dvd's that didn't use the 6 channel |
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| [03:56:00] | Netslayer: | quantum, aren't all dvds in the last decade 6 channel? |
| [03:57:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. but that date is still wrong... |
| [03:57:00] | quantum: | well, some have an alternate audio channel or something that seems to work sometimes |
| [03:58:00] | quantum: | I have had this problem consistently though, and this is a fresh installation, so it seems like there is something fundementally wrong with this |
| [03:58:00] | quantum: | I really want to know if anyone else is seeing this problem |
| [03:59:00] | Netslayer: | i'll let ya know soon hopefully heh |
| [03:59:00] | quantum: | what type of movies do you like |
| [03:59:00] | Netslayer: | sci fi/action/some drama |
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| [04:00:00] | Netslayer: | matrix, lotr, firefly |
| [04:00:00] | Ediehow: | hi friendz |
| [04:00:00] | quantum: | yeah I was able to rip my matrix dvd o.k. |
| [04:00:00] | quantum: | not new stuff though |
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| [04:02:00] | quantum: | just put online my 400GB drive |
| [04:02:00] | quantum: | it is rocken |
| [04:08:00] | quantum: | well with perfect quality I didn't get any audio at all |
| [04:09:00] | jamesbrink: | 400gb .. |
| [04:09:00] | jamesbrink: | damn |
| [04:09:00] | quantum: | it is really quiet to |
| [04:12:00] | quantum: | looks like I better get some sleep..... |
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| [04:20:00] | Ediehow: | what cache setting do most of you guys use? |
| [04:20:00] | Ediehow: | and do you set it in mplayer.conf or in myth setup? |
| [04:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | cache setting ? |
| [04:21:00] | Ediehow: | /etc/mplayer.conf or whatever |
| [04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | What cache are you referring to ? |
| [04:21:00] | Ediehow: | GreyFoxx: the only cache setting in mplayer.coinf |
| [04:21:00] | Ediehow: | mplayer.conf |
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| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have a mplayer.conf file anywhere :) |
| [04:22:00] | Ediehow: | ok, do you set some cache file anywhere for myth? |
| [04:22:00] | Ediehow: | err some cache setting? |
| [04:22:00] | Ediehow: | or buffer |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, not really |
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| [04:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I stopped using mplayer a while back , but even then I never set any sort of cache. And I can't remember any that I set for myth either.... what kind of cache are you looking for ? |
| [04:24:00] | thread: | anyone know why I get 401 Unauthorized when I try to mythfilldatabase? don't I just register at zap2it and put the login/password into mythsetup? |
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| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | register with zap2it, setup your program source, go to mythsetup put in the login info, pull in the video source info, and you should be done |
| [04:26:00] | thread: | yeah... 401 Unauthorized there in the wget output |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | then it sounds like you didn't enter your auth info correctly |
| [04:26:00] | thread: | authorization failed |
| [04:26:00] | thread: | yeah hmm |
| [04:26:00] | thread: | I'm logged in on their website... |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't remember there being any sort of delay after creating a zap2it account |
| [04:27:00] | thread: | I did it about 24 hours ago |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | then you must have the info incorrectly entered into myth |
| [04:28:00] | DarkBeer: | thread, you registered at labs.zap2it.com and not www.zap2it.com? if I remember correctly, they are different logins |
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| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | That could certainly be a problem :) |
| [04:28:00] | thread: | tvlistings2.zap2it.com |
| [04:28:00] | thread: | i think |
| [04:28:00] | thread: | should it be labs. or www. ? |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | labs. |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | along with the certificate code you can get from mythtv.org |
| [04:29:00] | thread: | ahh... okay... |
| [04:29:00] | DarkBeer: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ConfigureDD |
| [04:29:00] | thread: | ohhh |
| [04:29:00] | thread: | yes... I remember about that now |
| [04:29:00] | thread: | I've done this once like 1–2 years ago |
| [04:29:00] | thread: | heh |
| [04:29:00] | thread: | thank you |
| [04:29:00] | DarkBeer: | see you in a year ;) |
| [04:30:00] | thread: | hah |
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| [04:41:00] | Kamy: | Good evening |
| [04:42:00] | Kamy: | Anybody here using a PVR-500? |
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| [04:46:00] | thread: | so what causes the skipping? (sound and video) |
| [04:47:00] | Kamy: | well can anybody point me in the right direction... I can bring up picture in picture, but I cannot swap tuners, or can I change channels on the PIP window when I change window focus |
| [04:48:00] | Kamy: | it's like the other tuner is stuck on its preset channel of 4 |
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| [04:54:00] | Kamy: | and when I change tuners by pressing y I can't change channels on that tuner |
| [05:02:00] | thread: | I have 2 problems left: the guide appears to be empty until I push an arrow key and mythtv crashes. |
| [05:03:00] | thread: | second, the a/v keeps stuttering ... bad |
| [05:03:00] | thread: | 2006-01–03 07:59:56.004 prebuffering pause |
| [05:03:00] | thread: | spews a bunch of those... one for each time it freezes |
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| [05:19:00] | thread: | I can't find anything good about the "prebuffering pause" stuttering I'm getting... |
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| [05:22:00] | Ediehow: | thread: |
| [05:22:00] | Ediehow: | for livetv? |
| [05:23:00] | thread: | yes |
| [05:23:00] | thread: | watching recorded stuff is fine |
| [05:23:00] | Ediehow: | ivtv? |
| [05:23:00] | thread: | yes |
| [05:23:00] | thread: | 0.4.1 |
| [05:23:00] | Ediehow: | no prob |
| [05:23:00] | Ediehow: | hold |
| [05:23:00] | thread: | !! |
| [05:24:00] | Ediehow: | edit /etc/rc.modules |
| [05:24:00] | Ediehow: | /sbin/modprobe ivtv |
| [05:24:00] | Ediehow: | then reboot |
| [05:24:00] | thread: | umm... ? |
| [05:24:00] | thread: | I have ivtv loaded |
| [05:24:00] | Ediehow: | order |
| [05:24:00] | thread: | I don't have an rc.modules either... is this just auto-loading it? |
| [05:24:00] | thread: | oh, it's the order the modules are loaded in? |
| [05:25:00] | Ediehow: | what distro |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | ubuntu |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | I think I want /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [05:25:00] | Ediehow: | try that |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | yes? |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | right now I have |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | snd-ens1371 |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | ivtv |
| [05:25:00] | Ediehow: | it must be loaded before mythbe |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | one for my sound driver, and one that loads ivtv and presumably all it's deps |
| [05:25:00] | thread: | I do load it on bootup |
| [05:26:00] | Ediehow: | i'm not going to argue with you:) this problem is all over mythtvtalk.com |
| [05:26:00] | Ediehow: | and that's the fix |
| [05:26:00] | Ediehow: | that's what i had to do |
| [05:26:00] | Ediehow: | if you don't believe me, go read mythtvtalk.com |
| [05:26:00] | thread: | I will |
| [05:27:00] | thread: | but you're saying ivtv must be loaded before mythbe <- what's that? |
| [05:27:00] | Ediehow: | mythbackend |
| [05:27:00] | Ediehow: | i did not have an /etc/rc.modules in fc4 |
| [05:27:00] | Ediehow: | but i created it |
| [05:27:00] | Ediehow: | and it's where i put it |
| [05:27:00] | thread: | I'm saying I _am_ loading the drivers on boot |
| [05:27:00] | Ediehow: | and it works now |
| [05:27:00] | Ediehow: | it has to do with the order, as i said |
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| [05:27:00] | thread: | oh shit, the board is down |
| [05:28:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.google.com/search?q=rc.modules+ivt . . . -US:official |
| [05:31:00] | thread: | I'm not sold this is related to my problem |
| [05:31:00] | Ediehow: | ok, have fun |
| [05:31:00] | Ediehow: | goodbye |
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| [05:33:00] | thread: | anybody else heard of this stuttering with the "prebuffering pause" message? |
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| [05:56:00] | xris: | thread: .18.x? |
| [05:59:00] | thread: | yeah. .18.1 |
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| [05:59:00] | dmz: | :( a p4 3ghz machine isn't fast enough to handle hd output? (720p atm) |
| [06:00:00] | Netslayer: | that sounds odd |
| [06:00:00] | Netslayer: | i can playback 1080i mpeg2 with a 2.4 p4 |
| [06:00:00] | Netslayer: | i think |
| [06:01:00] | thread: | I'm watching the daily show rigiht now and it's perfect |
| [06:01:00] | thread: | but I told it to record |
| [06:01:00] | thread: | and I'm watching the recording |
| [06:01:00] | thread: | but when I watch livetv, it skips a lot |
| [06:01:00] | Ediehow: | thread: did you try what i said? |
| [06:02:00] | thread: | Ediehow: I don't understand what you said. |
| [06:02:00] | Ediehow: | sure you do, i told you where to put /sbin/modprobe ivtv |
| [06:02:00] | Ediehow: | and reboot |
| [06:02:00] | Ediehow: | it would have taken you 5 seconds to do, then a reboot |
| [06:02:00] | dmz: | i'm going out an nvidia 6200, no mpeg decoder |
| [06:02:00] | Ediehow: | and if you don't want to do that, you can edit the mythbackend script |
| [06:02:00] | Ediehow: | dmz: nvidia 6200 can decode with xvmc |
| [06:03:00] | Ediehow: | at least, for most people, not me:O |
| [06:03:00] | dmz: | it just locked up with i checked the xvmc hardware decoder button |
| [06:03:00] | Ediehow: | hmm, i have that problem too |
| [06:03:00] | dmz: | i'm going to rebuild from latest source and see if that helps |
| [06:03:00] | Ediehow: | what version of driver? |
| [06:03:00] | Ediehow: | hmm, i wonder |
| [06:03:00] | Ediehow: | since i have 6200 too |
| [06:04:00] | dmz: | libxvmc1 6.8.2.dfsg.1–11, libxvmcw 0.9.3–3 |
| [06:04:00] | dmz: | heh it's overheating my CPU |
| [06:04:00] | Ediehow: | now that's strange |
| [06:04:00] | dmz: | debian packages |
| [06:04:00] | Ediehow: | but |
| [06:04:00] | Ediehow: | i don't have libxvmc's at all |
| [06:04:00] | Ediehow: | what do them come with? |
| [06:04:00] | thread: | Ediehow: I don't think rc.modules is a file that ubuntu (debian) uses.... |
| [06:05:00] | thread: | can anyone else say otherwise? |
| [06:05:00] | Ediehow: | so instead of trying it |
| [06:05:00] | thread: | Ediehow: it seems to me that all your method does is load the ivtv driver on boot... |
| [06:05:00] | Ediehow: | which takes a matter of minutes |
| [06:05:00] | thread: | Ediehow: we're watching tv at the moment :) |
| [06:05:00] | Ediehow: | and has been documented REPEATEDLY on mythvtalk.com |
| [06:05:00] | Ediehow: | thread: you just said it kept skipping |
| [06:05:00] | Ediehow: | on livetv |
| [06:05:00] | thread: | Ediehow: but I DO load the modules on boot |
| [06:06:00] | Ediehow: | ok, i am not going to explain this again, sorry |
| [06:06:00] | thread: | NOT automatically by myth or anything like that |
| [06:06:00] | thread: | it's okay |
| [06:06:00] | Ediehow: | because i told you what to do |
| [06:06:00] | Ediehow: | and you don't want to do it |
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| [06:06:00] | Ediehow: | and really i think you should be kicked if you keep asking how to fix it, because i've repeatedly told you how |
| [06:06:00] | thread: | Ediehow: sorry, but I really think you need to chill the f out |
| [06:06:00] | Ediehow: | thread: i don't need to chill out, you need to quit asking a question that has been answered repeatedly. |
| [06:07:00] | thread: | Ediehow: I am not badgering you. you are badgering me. |
| [06:07:00] | thread: | stfu pls k thx |
| [06:07:00] | Ediehow: | you are badgering the channel, because people have helped you and you refuse it. |
| [06:07:00] | Ediehow: | this is documented repeatedly on mythtvtalk.com |
| [06:07:00] | Ediehow: | and i said, if you don't want to use rc.modules, edit mythbackend script itself |
| [06:07:00] | Ediehow: | but you also refuse to do that |
| [06:08:00] | Ediehow: | another solution, oddly enough, which is documented on mythvtalk.com |
| [06:08:00] | Fitzsimmons: | why wouldn't you want to autoload the module? |
| [06:08:00] | thread: | I'm saying I AM autoloading the module |
| [06:08:00] | thread: | Ediehow: a link to such a thread might be helpful |
| [06:08:00] | Ediehow: | thread: i have REPEATEDLY told you the order is the problem |
| [06:08:00] | thread: | Ediehow: and I've _repeatedly_ said I'm already loading ivtv on boot |
| [06:09:00] | thread: | in the way that my distro does |
| [06:09:00] | Ediehow: | and i've REPEATEDLY said it's the order on boot |
| [06:09:00] | thread: | with /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
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| [06:09:00] | Ediehow: | which is repeatedly addressed in those threads |
| [06:09:00] | thread: | those threads I cannot seem to find... |
| [06:09:00] | Smeagel: | I had a power surge today, and have been getting some really weird behavior |
| [06:09:00] | dmz: | is it worth just downloading 18.1 or svn? |
| [06:09:00] | Ediehow: | thread: you earlier said mythtvtalk.com was down |
| [06:09:00] | Ediehow: | and i am there right now |
| [06:10:00] | Smeagel: | all of a sudden the "e" and "z" keys (edit and commercial skip) aren't working |
| [06:10:00] | thread: | Ediehow: yeah... I was wrong I guess |
| [06:10:00] | Smeagel: | and the skipping with the up and down keys is really chunky |
| [06:10:00] | Smeagel: | any idea's? |
| [06:10:00] | Smeagel: | when I hit "e" it just completely ignores it |
| [06:10:00] | dmz: | anyone using latest svn? |
| [06:11:00] | Smeagel: | when I hit "z" i t says "not flagged" even though the shows definitely are |
| [06:11:00] | Ediehow: | the problem is ivtv is not being loaded before mythbackend starts |
| [06:12:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=827 |
| [06:12:00] | thread: | actually... my mythbackend init script isn't working for some reason |
| [06:12:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1147 |
| [06:13:00] | thread: | so I'm invoking it myself |
| [06:13:00] | thread: | definitely after ivtv has been loaded in the boot-up init scripts |
| [06:13:00] | Ediehow: | it may be something else that is loading ivtv |
| [06:13:00] | Ediehow: | because modprobe.conf does not load it for most people |
| [06:13:00] | Ediehow: | you have to manually load it |
| [06:13:00] | Ediehow: | the entry in modprobe.conf is not sufficient |
| [06:14:00] | Ediehow: | so libxvmc is a library? |
| [06:15:00] | Ediehow: | dmz: i can't find it on freshmeat |
| [06:15:00] | Ediehow: | libXvMCW-0.9.3–2.rhfc4.at |
| [06:15:00] | Ediehow: | ah |
| [06:16:00] | Ediehow: | "OK – I think I have it. I found that it worked fine when I ran the backend by hand rather than letting my init script start it at boot time ... I think 'modprobe ivtv' needs to happen before the backend starts up. I have hacked my /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend script to 'modprobe ivtv' before starting the backend, and rebooted 3 times and I have successfully watched live tv without a freeze on all 3 reboots." |
| [06:16:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . amp;start=10 |
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| [06:18:00] | Ediehow: | do you guys use the rtc module? |
| [06:20:00] | Ediehow: | thread: did you get that? |
| [06:22:00] | thread: | yeah I read that |
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| [06:23:00] | Guyfromhe: | anyone using a 350 card? |
| [06:23:00] | Guyfromhe: | with and using the tvout? |
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| [06:29:00] | dmz: | ok now this doesn't make any sense, on my desktop (1280x1024) no hardware decoder, watching via network (no backend) it runs using 25% of cpu (1.7ghz celeron), on main box running 1280x720 3.5ghz p4 it takes like 95% cpu! |
| [06:30:00] | thread: | thathey |
| [06:30:00] | thread: | hey |
| [06:30:00] | thread: | you know what does work... |
| [06:30:00] | thread: | if I just pause it for a few seconds |
| [06:30:00] | thread: | and then play |
| [06:30:00] | thread: | it doesn't stutter anymore |
| [06:32:00] | Netslayer: | dmz, you build in xmv, etc support into mythtv? |
| [06:32:00] | Netslayer: | xv |
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| [06:38:00] | xris: | Netslayer: that's almost necessary |
| [06:39:00] | Smeagel: | is there anyway to rebuild the mythtv database that contains all the information about shows already recorded? |
| [06:39:00] | Smeagel: | my mysql database appears to be dying |
| [06:39:00] | Smeagel: | when i open table mythconverg I get "didn't find any fields in table jobqueue and the same for recordedmarkup |
| [06:43:00] | xris: | Smeagel: mysqldump --help |
| [06:43:00] | xris: | you can dump individual tables for re-import |
| [06:44:00] | Smeagel: | actually i got it |
| [06:44:00] | Smeagel: | googled long enough ;) |
| [06:44:00] | Smeagel: | repair table recordedmarkup; |
| [06:44:00] | Netslayer: | alright i upgraded ffmpeg, transcode to 1x, xvid, rebuilt mythdvd but dvd rip still dies when it tries to encode it :-/ |
| [06:45:00] | Smeagel: | thx though |
| [06:45:00] | Netslayer: | the mtd just dies after it issues the new job command for encoding... the iso mode works fine |
| [06:47:00] | Netslayer: | any ideas? |
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| [06:48:00] | Netslayer: | did mythdvd get broken in svn a month ago when i checked out? |
| [06:49:00] | Guyfromhe: | grr |
| [06:49:00] | Guyfromhe: | anyone using a pvr350 for tvout? |
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| [07:19:00] | Guyfromhe: | haha |
| [07:19:00] | Guyfromhe: | it was gnome the whole time |
| [07:19:00] | Guyfromhe: | and it's stupid panels |
| [07:19:00] | Guyfromhe: | grr |
| [07:19:00] | Guyfromhe: | at least I got it figured out |
| [07:19:00] | Guyfromhe: | yay |
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| [07:22:00] | Esp1: | anyone know which i have to choose in my mythtv settup (svideo0,svideo1,svideo2,svideo3,composite0,composite1....etc) to be able to capture video on the s-video input? |
| [07:22:00] | Guyfromhe: | did you try all the svideos? |
| [07:23:00] | Esp1: | yes |
| [07:23:00] | Netslayer: | Esp1 start with 0 |
| [07:23:00] | Guyfromhe: | well if you've tried them all there may be a config issue... |
| [07:23:00] | Guyfromhe: | can you capture anything else? |
| [07:24:00] | Esp1: | i started with 0 and worked my way up.....i have a pvr350 and can do tuner. |
| [07:24:00] | Guyfromhe: | hm i've got the same card |
| [07:24:00] | Guyfromhe: | i've never tried capturing svideo though |
| [07:24:00] | Guyfromhe: | can you capture from the composite? |
| [07:25:00] | Esp1: | i dont have a composite in the back of the card. |
| [07:26:00] | Guyfromhe: | it comes with a special adapter |
| [07:27:00] | Esp1: | i have the output adapter....there is one for input as well? |
| [07:27:00] | Guyfromhe: | yes |
| [07:27:00] | Guyfromhe: | it has a svideo cable wqith alot more pins on one side and a composite in on the other end |
| [07:27:00] | Esp1: | oki....that might be the prob.....i'll look for it.....thanx |
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| [07:29:00] | Guyfromhe: | you shoudln't need it but if you can find it you can c=heck if composite is even working |
| [07:29:00] | Guyfromhe: | i've never tried capturing via svideo but thats probably a good place to start anyway |
| [07:42:00] | Esp1: | my s-video/composite inn connection only have 4 pinns like an ordernarry s-video.... |
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| [07:47:00] | marcus2: | are there still problems with zap2it? |
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| [07:51:00] | marcus2: | er nevermind, i'm dumb |
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| [08:13:00] | cosmo_: | anyone using a pvr-150? Im in mythsetup right now, I dont know which tuner is the tv tuner, and which is the radio tuner, tuner0 and tuner1 are my options |
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| [08:24:00] | Guyfromhe: | tuner 0 probably |
| [08:24:00] | Guyfromhe: | tuner 0 is on the pvr 350 |
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| [08:55:00] | dmz: | ok wtf! zine only takes 6% of the cpu to play the exact same file that mythfrontend uses 98% of the cpu to play! |
| [08:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Xine? |
| [08:56:00] | dmz: | video player, using it instead of mplayer |
| [08:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Right. Not 'zine'. |
| [08:57:00] | Krazylegz: | You can tell Myth to use Xine. |
| [08:57:00] | dmz: | typo |
| [08:57:00] | dmz: | i can use xine for std recording playback? |
| [08:58:00] | dmz: | but why would mythfrontend be 98% of cpu when xine is only 6–8%? |
| [08:58:00] | dmz: | and can i use xine for watching live tv? |
| [08:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [08:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Answers: mythfrontend hates you. Yes. |
| [08:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Though, mythfrontend is also caching for timeshifting. xine is not. |
| [08:59:00] | dmz: | oh |
| [09:00:00] | dmz: | so i just started googling for changing that; unless you can point me somewhere quickly :) |
| [09:01:00] | Krazylegz: | It's in the Setup screens, I believe. |
| [09:01:00] | dmz: | but still 90% difference, and i've been through setup screens quite a bit. i don't think i saw anything there for that. now to play my imported dvd's...i've already converted that |
| [09:02:00] | Krazylegz: | The default player will be named "internal". |
| [09:07:00] | dmz: | i think that's in the "Video Settings" which is the dvd playback |
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| [09:16:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah Krazylegz doesn't know what he's talking about. for livetv you can't use an external player |
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| [09:17:00] | Agrajag-: | dmz: it could be a number of things – like if you have any filters set up or something |
| [09:17:00] | dmz: | that's what i'm asking |
| [09:17:00] | dmz: | i don't have any filters |
| [09:18:00] | dmz: | i'm wanting to use an external player because mythfrontend kills the system (a 4ghz p4 with 1gig ram using 99% of cpu to play a recording) |
| [09:19:00] | Agrajag-: | check your setup.. it shouldn't be much different from xine |
| [09:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Agrajag-: I thought you could. It's only for recordings? |
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| [09:20:00] | Agrajag-: | Krazylegz: no only for video/dvd playback |
| [09:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Ack. |
| [09:21:00] | Krazylegz: | I give up. I'm not going to try to say anything intelligent in this channel again. I'll leave that to the professionals. |
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| [09:21:00] | Agrajag-: | heh that's ok you'll learn im sure :P |
| [09:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Nah, I'll just forget more. |
| [09:23:00] | dmz: | :| i think i just need to get a video card that supports xvmc better |
| [09:23:00] | dmz: | just sad that the same file played via xine goes fine |
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| [09:23:00] | Agrajag-: | what output are you using for xine? |
| [09:25:00] | dmz: | xine -pfhq --no-splash %s |
| [09:27:00] | Agrajag-: | what video driver? |
| [09:27:00] | Agrajag-: | might be in your ~/.xine/config |
| [09:28:00] | Agrajag-: | anyway i gotta go.. try changing what myth is using. check the mailing list too |
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| [10:02:00] | closer: | is it normal that mythplugins doesn't compile out of svn |
| [10:02:00] | closer: | for example, can't find Xmu... |
| [10:02:00] | closer: | hardcoded 0.18.1 lib references |
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| [10:16:00] | Ediehow: | what do you guys have for min free live tv buffer (mb)? |
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| [10:17:00] | Ediehow: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [10:17:00] | Ediehow: | err |
| [10:17:00] | Ediehow: | not sure where that came from |
| [10:17:00] | Ediehow: | ? |
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| [10:29:00] | Nichotin: | does anyone have a mythtv-svn ebuild? |
| [10:29:00] | Ediehow: | what is the svn people keep talking about? |
| [10:29:00] | Ediehow: | the new one? |
| [10:29:00] | Ediehow: | just .19? |
| [10:30:00] | Nichotin: | grabbing mythtv from svn will always get you the latest |
| [10:30:00] | Nichotin: | svn is sort of like cvs |
| [10:30:00] | Ediehow: | oh ok |
| [10:31:00] | Nichotin: | http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UpgradeToCvsHowTo |
| [10:32:00] | Ediehow: | thx |
| [10:35:00] | closer: | svn stands for subversion, an newer alternative to cvs... |
| [10:35:00] | Ediehow: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [10:35:00] | Ediehow: | where did this come from? |
| [10:36:00] | purana: | edishow: its trying to match your hostname against some tables in the the db for settings and finds no matches |
| [10:36:00] | Ediehow: | how do i fix? |
| [10:36:00] | purana: | populate it |
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| [10:37:00] | purana: | I found it easier to install phpmyadmin and php/apache onto the box |
| [10:37:00] | purana: | and then use this tool to look at the mythconverg db |
| [10:37:00] | Ediehow: | well |
| [10:37:00] | Ediehow: | i had myth working until just now |
| [10:37:00] | purana: | and then look at the table that relates to the settings |
| [10:37:00] | purana: | bummer |
| [10:37:00] | Ediehow: | apparently after uninstall/reinstall of frontend or something |
| [10:37:00] | Ediehow: | and backend |
| [10:38:00] | purana: | i've only been using it for about 2 weeks |
| [10:38:00] | Ediehow: | k |
| [10:38:00] | purana: | any aussie folks in here about? |
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| [10:48:00] | purana: | guess I will try tomorrow |
| [10:49:00] | purana: | meanwhile probably a good time for sleep |
| [10:49:00] | Ediehow: | hey purana |
| [10:49:00] | Ediehow: | could you tell me something real quick? |
| [10:49:00] | Ediehow: | INSERT INTO settings SET value = 'BackendServerIP', data = |
| [10:49:00] | Ediehow: | '127.0.0.1', hostname = 'localhost'; |
| [10:49:00] | Ediehow: | i did that |
| [10:49:00] | Ediehow: | so why isn't that enough |
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| [10:49:00] | purana: | does the backend have apache ? |
| [10:49:00] | purana: | aka webserver installed? |
| [10:50:00] | purana: | if so configure php too and install phpmyadmin |
| [10:50:00] | purana: | web gui to view/edit/modify the mysql |
| [10:50:00] | purana: | piss easy to use |
| [10:51:00] | purana: | see if I can dump my settings for a certain frontend |
| [10:51:00] | Ediehow: | i am missing something |
| [10:51:00] | purana: | then you can grab and modify it before loading it in |
| [10:51:00] | purana: | ie. modify hostname on all the lines before loading it into your db |
| [10:52:00] | purana: | actually it might even be a backend setting wrong |
| [10:52:00] | purana: | do you want me to dump my settings table complete |
| [10:52:00] | purana: | then you can cross match against yours? |
| [10:54:00] | purana: | ediehow: http://homer.heimic.net:81/~michaelf/settings.sql.gz |
| [10:54:00] | purana: | grab that |
| [10:54:00] | purana: | its my settings table dump |
| [10:55:00] | Ediehow: | hold one sec |
| [10:55:00] | Ediehow: | select * from settings WHERE value = 'BackendServerIP'; |
| [10:55:00] | Ediehow: | i just did that |
| [10:55:00] | Ediehow: | and it returns nothing |
| [10:55:00] | purana: | whats the hostname of your machine |
| [10:55:00] | Ediehow: | home |
| [10:55:00] | Ediehow: | or localhost |
| [10:55:00] | Ediehow: | but i see "home" when i go to a terminal |
| [10:56:00] | Ediehow: | see |
| [10:56:00] | Ediehow: | i just took what you did |
| [10:56:00] | Ediehow: | INSERT INTO `settings` VALUES ('BackendServerIP', '192.168.7.1', 'mythmbe1'); |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | and i changed the ip to 127.0.0.1 and the other to 'home' |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | and ran sql |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | then restarted |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | err |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | then did select |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | and still showed nothing |
| [10:57:00] | purana: | SELECT * |
| [10:57:00] | purana: | FROM `settings` |
| [10:57:00] | purana: | WHERE `value` = "backendserverip" |
| [10:57:00] | purana: | ; |
| [10:58:00] | purana: | whats that return? |
| [10:58:00] | Ediehow: | Output from SQL command SELECT * FROM `settings` WHERE `value` = "backendserverip" ; .. |
| [10:58:00] | Ediehow: | No data returned |
| [10:58:00] | purana: | hrmm |
| [10:59:00] | purana: | whats your /etc/hosts file look like |
| [10:59:00] | purana: | just out of interest |
| [10:59:00] | Ediehow: | 127.0.0.1 home localhost.localdomain localhost |
| [10:59:00] | Ediehow: | top line |
| [10:59:00] | purana: | insert using localhost.localdomain as the host |
| [10:59:00] | purana: | see if that does something too |
| [10:59:00] | Ediehow: | k |
| [10:59:00] | purana: | i had issues with this yonks ago |
| [11:00:00] | Ediehow: | SELECT * FROM `settings` WHERE `value` = "backendserverip" ; |
| [11:00:00] | Ediehow: | nope |
| [11:00:00] | Ediehow: | tried that |
| [11:00:00] | Ediehow: | after the insert |
| [11:00:00] | Ediehow: | purana: do yo use webmin? |
| [11:01:00] | purana: | no I dont |
| [11:02:00] | Ediehow: | oh i see |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | mysql> select * from settings where value = "backendserverip"; |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | +-----------------+-------------+----------+ |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | | value | data | hostname | |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | +-----------------+-------------+----------+ |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | | BackendServerIP | 192.168.7.1 | mythmbe1 | |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | +-----------------+-------------+----------+ |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | 1 row in set (0.00 sec) |
| [11:02:00] | purana: | remove the ``'s |
| [11:02:00] | Ediehow: | mysql> select * from settings where value = "backendserverip"; |
| [11:02:00] | Ediehow: | ERROR 1030 (HY000): Got error 127 from storage engine |
| [11:03:00] | purana: | you have other issues it would appear |
| [11:03:00] | Ediehow: | apparently new ones:O |
| [11:03:00] | purana: | restart sql server |
| [11:03:00] | purana: | and try the select again |
| [11:05:00] | Ediehow: | mysql> select * from settings; |
| [11:06:00] | Ediehow: | yeah this is a new error |
| [11:07:00] | Ediehow: | purana: how do i repair a table? |
| [11:07:00] | purana: | you dont |
| [11:07:00] | purana: | you have backups |
| [11:07:00] | Ediehow: | purana: apparently you can repair a table |
| [11:07:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.searchy.net/mailinglists/MySQL_General/msg04736.html |
| [11:07:00] | purana: | then your in luck |
| [11:07:00] | purana: | one of my firewire drives is making a noise |
| [11:08:00] | purana: | guess the older drive of the two in the case is dying |
| [11:08:00] | purana: | doh |
| [11:08:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.searchy.net/mailinglists/MySQL_General/msg04736.html |
| [11:08:00] | Ediehow: | how would i check this table? |
| [11:09:00] | Ediehow: | with myisamchk |
| [11:10:00] | purana: | i honestly dont know |
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| [11:14:00] | Ediehow: | ok |
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| [11:14:00] | Ediehow: | repair table; is supposed to work |
| [11:14:00] | Ediehow: | mysql> repair settings; |
| [11:14:00] | Ediehow: | ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'settings' at line 1 |
| [11:18:00] | Ediehow: | thx again |
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| [12:23:00] | Zugschlus: | hi |
| [12:23:00] | laga: | hi Zugschlus |
| [12:23:00] | Zugschlus: | is there an irc channel for ivtv? |
| [12:24:00] | laga: | probably #ivtv-dev |
| [12:24:00] | ** Zugschlus is wondering which kernel options I am missing if ivtv loading complains about failed module load for saa7115, saa7127 and msp3400 on a 2.6.15 kernel ** | |
| [12:24:00] | laga: | and if you're looking for a german chatroom, you could join #mythtv-de :) |
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| [12:25:00] | laga: | Zugschlus: what version of ivtv are you running? |
| [12:25:00] | Zugschlus: | laga: 0.4.1 |
| [12:25:00] | Ediehow: | i thought everyone on the internet spoke english?;) |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | Ediehow: ich denke nicht ;) |
| [12:25:00] | Zugschlus: | laga: language doesn't matter to me as long as it's german or english |
| [12:25:00] | Ediehow: | ooo 4.1 is out? |
| [12:25:00] | Zugschlus: | I actually prefer english |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | je ne crois pas ;) |
| [12:25:00] | Ediehow: | i only have .4.0 |
| [12:26:00] | laga: | Zugschlus: look at ivtvdriver.org, i think 0.5 is supposed to work well with younger kernels |
| [12:27:00] | Zugschlus: | laga: I am surely missing an "M" somewhere |
| [12:27:00] | Zugschlus: | but where? |
| [12:27:00] | Zugschlus: | laga: the Debian maintainer I am working with doesn't have 0.5 packages yet |
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| [12:32:00] | Zugschlus: | does the saa7115 and saa7127 driver come from Linux, or from ivtv? |
| [12:33:00] | Zugschlus: | my ivtv module package does only include ivtv.ko |
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| [12:35:00] | stoffel: | Zugschlus: what kernel? iirc starting with 2.6.14 and ivtv 0.4 only the ivtv.ko and ivtv-fb.ko modules will be built as all other modules are part of the kernel |
| [12:35:00] | Zugschlus: | stoffel: 2.6.15 |
| [12:36:00] | Zugschlus: | stoffel: ok, where in the kernel do I find the saa 7115, saa7127 and msp3400 drivers? |
| [12:37:00] | Zugschlus: | *ARGH* |
| [12:38:00] | Zugschlus: | that is hidden in "CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER", labeled as "Add support for additional video chipsets" |
| [12:38:00] | laga: | hehe+ |
| [12:38:00] | ** Zugschlus curses ** | |
| [12:38:00] | Zugschlus: | so far for the saa chips, now, where's the msp3400 driver? |
| [12:38:00] | stoffel: | hehe ;) read the ivtv mailing list |
| [12:39:00] | Zugschlus: | stoffel: I am not that far in my endeavours. Still kind of restrived to googling |
| [12:39:00] | stoffel: | well, the module is stored in kernel/driver/media/video |
| [12:39:00] | stoffel: | don't remeber where it's set in the kernel config. v4l support possibly |
| [12:41:00] | stoffel: | i have: CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848=m CONFIG_VIDEO_AUDIO_DECODER=m and CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER=m set |
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| [12:43:00] | laga: | danieldk: don't irc as root :) |
| [12:46:00] | closer: | mythtv might be all great, but I wouldn't know, I'm still screwing around trying to get the pluggins compiled... starting to make me wonder about the coding practices of the project |
| [12:47:00] | closer: | is there a forums site for mythtv? nothing seems to be on the wiki site |
| [12:48:00] | Juski: | closer: stop blaspheming.. it won't win you any friends in this channel |
| [12:49:00] | closer: | not looking for friends... |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | closer: common problems in compiling mythtv & its plugins are: missing libraries.. wrong compiler version... missing libraries... incorrect environment variables.. pretty simple things |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | I mentioned missing libraries twice because that's probably the most common problem ;) |
| [12:51:00] | Zugschlus: | the msp3400.ko is compiled if you have CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 selected |
| [12:54:00] | laga: | heheh |
| [12:54:00] | danieldk: | laga: wth? |
| [12:55:00] | Juski: | hi laga.. I still got this damn cold |
| [12:55:00] | Juski: | danieldk: you're logged into IRC as a root user |
| [12:55:00] | Juski: | that is, you are logged into your linux box as root and are running IRC as that user |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | which I'm told is a great way to get owned.. IRC not being the most secure of mediums |
| [12:56:00] | danieldk: | err okay – guess thats kinda unsafe |
| [12:56:00] | danieldk: | brb |
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| [12:58:00] | closer: | I'd say a major problem is bad or lacking documentation |
| [12:58:00] | Juski: | think what you like, closer |
| [12:58:00] | closer: | half hearted dependency list(s) |
| [12:58:00] | Juski: | but insulting the project won't get you any help :-P |
| [12:59:00] | closer: | I don't need any help... |
| [12:59:00] | laga: | then go away |
| [12:59:00] | Juski: | sounds like it |
| [12:59:00] | closer: | I'm bitching because of the time wasting due to things mentioned above |
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| [12:59:00] | danieldk: | better? |
| [12:59:00] | laga: | danieldk: hahahsa. great :)+ |
| [12:59:00] | danieldk: | :-) |
| [13:00:00] | laga: | gonna put that on bash.org when i've finished cleaning, if you don't mind |
| [13:00:00] | Juski: | danieldk: been following your thread on linpvr.org.. looks like minimyth is being a proper bitch to build |
| [13:00:00] | danieldk: | i don't mind :-) |
| [13:00:00] | Juski: | yeh it's all good learnin' |
| [13:01:00] | danieldk: | juski: yeah well at least the svn version i tuff |
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| [13:02:00] | danieldk: | the stable version is easy to build – i guess pablo isn't completly done testing the svn build.. |
| [13:02:00] | closer: | juski: a good sign of a good project is the ability to take minor criticisms... |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | closer: hundreds of people, if not thousands have managed to build mythtv, with and without help |
| [13:03:00] | closer: | so it must be a great project... |
| [13:03:00] | closer: | all hail it's greatness on #irc! |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | and coming in here yelling "this sucks" isn't a good way to get people on your side, is all I'm saying |
| [13:04:00] | closer: | did I say it sucks? |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | you inferred that |
| [13:05:00] | closer: | I've got competent questions... like why is libavcodec included in the project? |
| [13:06:00] | closer: | why is there no easy to google mention of gcc4 imcompatibility...? |
| [13:07:00] | closer: | why is there no decent prerequisite list so I can build and install instead of waiting for make failures only to have to go get something and remake? |
| [13:07:00] | Juski: | closer: if you search the mythtv users & the devs mailing list you'll find out what to do about the gcc4 issues |
| [13:08:00] | closer: | I know what to do... but it's a pretty trivial problem... should be wiki'd or something... |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | ugh.. wikis |
| [13:08:00] | Juski: | better than nothing, I agree |
| [13:09:00] | closer: | whatever... documented... |
| [13:09:00] | closer: | mailing lists aren't sufficient documentation for a large opensource project IMHO |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | the thing is, closer... the dependencies for lots of distros vary greatly |
| [13:10:00] | closer: | that's a bit of a cop out... |
| [13:10:00] | quantum: | when I try to rip my dvd's (mainly the newer ones) I am not able to get the voice track. The voices are apparently on ac3 6ch. if I switch to 2ch I am able to get voices but this is usually just a commentary track or something, or if I switch to another language track that usually works o.k. as well. Does anyone know how to fix this or have a similar problem? |
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| [13:15:00] | closer: | the plugins all have hardcoded libmyth version numbers? |
| [13:16:00] | Juski: | closer: put it this way.. everything you want to use from the source should be checked out at the same time from the same place |
| [13:16:00] | closer: | I did. |
| [13:16:00] | closer: | all three simultaneously from svn |
| [13:16:00] | closer: | I've been FOSS since 1993. I hate to tell you, but I know what I'm doing most of the time. |
| [13:22:00] | quantum: | is there another program that can rip dvd's since I can't get the audio with myth? |
| [13:23:00] | closer: | dvdrip |
| [13:23:00] | closer: | it's perl frontend... works prettywell for me |
| [13:24:00] | quantum: | o.k. thanks |
| [13:26:00] | danieldk: | okay this may be a linux question rather than a mythtv-question – but is there a way to make a custom linux(debian) "image" for my frontend that does not contain all the source packages/developement enviro? |
| [13:27:00] | danieldk: | it feels kinda silly to create a 2gb roor-dir containing everything when it only needs 100 mb of stuff |
| [13:29:00] | danieldk: | i guess one could do it by creating .deb files and using chroot to install them |
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| [13:39:00] | danieldk: | ex. use syslinux to create the initial / installation in some dir on my server – then, chroot to that dir and apt-get everything i need |
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| [13:42:00] | danieldk: | the create .deb's to f.ex install x11 with unichrome and other things that needs to be compiled |
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| [13:45:00] | danieldk: | .... so err does anybody know a good linux/debian channel? |
| [13:49:00] | Zugschlus: | Well. |
| [13:50:00] | closer: | you said good, so I won't say #linux |
| [13:50:00] | Zugschlus: | A closely guarded secret would be #debian |
| [13:50:00] | closer: | maybe #linpeople... haven't been on there in a long time tho |
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| [14:03:00] | danieldk: | okay thanks |
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| [15:24:00] | wibbit: | Hello All |
| [15:25:00] | wibbit: | Quick question of any one in the UK, that is using MythTV (linux) |
| [15:25:00] | wibbit: | I'm looking for a receiver card that works with freeview, if at all possible? |
| [15:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | many do, no idea if any of them around at the moment |
| [15:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | users from the uk that is |
| [15:25:00] | Merlin83b2: | Hauppaugge Nova-T does the trick, wibbit . |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b2: | For me, at least. |
| [15:26:00] | Merlin83b2: | Juski uses something else. |
| [15:29:00] | wibbit: | I don't suppose you've got the remote working Merlin83b |
| [15:31:00] | wibbit: | Also, Merlin83b did you have to do any kernel rebuilds or any thing along those lines? |
| [15:32:00] | Merlin83b2: | I have the remote working, yes. |
| [15:32:00] | Merlin83b2: | I didn't have to rebuild anything, I just used KnoppMyth to install from. |
| [15:33:00] | wibbit: | Merlin83b, Do you know what the difference is between the MCE version and the non MCE version? |
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| [15:34:00] | wibbit: | Iget the impression that it doesn't provide any encoding or decoding assistance? Unlike the analogue cards? |
| [15:37:00] | Merlin83b2: | Encoding is not needed – the digital stream is already encoded. |
| [15:37:00] | Merlin83b2: | And no, it doesn't provide decoding. |
| [15:37:00] | Merlin83b2: | I do not know what the MCE variation is, I'm afraid. |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | The Nova-* cards have MCE versions ? |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | the PVR cards do, didn't know any DVB cards did |
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| [15:37:00] | Merlin83b2: | Not that I've seen, but I haven't looked for a while. |
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| [15:38:00] | fryfrog: | in the PVR world, MCE usually means it simply has RCA audio connectors in the back |
| [15:38:00] | fryfrog: | i mean, PVR X50 |
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| [15:39:00] | wibbit: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_nova-t_mce.html |
| [15:39:00] | wibbit: | GreyFoxx, It would appear they do have the MCE version |
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| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | main diff to me looks like 1 comes with an ir remote, the other doesn't heh |
| [15:44:00] | fryfrog: | thats the other main diff for the pvr [1,2,3]50 (or 500?) |
| [15:44:00] | fryfrog: | the MCE has no remote (no ir port) but RCA audio connectors instead of a mini-headphones jack (which you use RCA -> Headphones type adapter on) |
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| [15:47:00] | wibbit: | fryfrog, would I not be able to just use the PC audio device to output the sound? |
| [15:48:00] | Merlin83b2: | Yes. |
| [15:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | He's referring to inputs |
| [15:48:00] | wibbit: | Oh |
| [15:48:00] | wibbit: | *scratches head* |
| [15:48:00] | fryfrog: | so pick MCE if its cheaper and you don't need a remote |
| [15:48:00] | wibbit: | So, is their a down side? (I don't know much about audio connectors) |
| [15:48:00] | fryfrog: | pick not-mce if it isn't |
| [15:49:00] | fryfrog: | remote vs. no-remote |
| [15:49:00] | fryfrog: | i'd say thats the only one |
| [15:49:00] | wibbit: | Can one remote control multiple cards? |
| [15:49:00] | fryfrog: | no no, its a tv remote for your computer |
| [15:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | The remote actually is used to control the software, the software controls the card. So all you need is a single card |
| [15:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | err single remote |
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| [15:49:00] | fryfrog: | ie, my pvr 250's each came with one remote |
| [15:50:00] | wibbit: | So if the MCE was cheaper, and I wanted to be able to use multiple cards, I could just get one non-MCE, and then the rest as MCE |
| [15:50:00] | fryfrog: | but i only hooked up 1 ir reciever to one card, use it to watch tv |
| [15:50:00] | fryfrog: | wibbit: exactly :) |
| [15:50:00] | fryfrog: | *sometimes* support for the MCE cards lags behind the normal cards |
| [15:51:00] | fryfrog: | ie, for the pvr 250 and 150, MCE support took a few weeks after to be supported |
| [15:51:00] | wibbit: | now, just to make sure Iam not being a compleate idiot |
| [15:51:00] | wibbit: | This IS the card we've been talking about? |
| [15:51:00] | wibbit: | http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index . . . &_LOC=UK |
| [15:52:00] | Merlin83b2: | Looks like the non-MCE one to me. |
| [15:52:00] | Merlin83b2: | aka The One I Have. |
| [15:54:00] | wibbit: | And I should just be able to use a normal arial that I currently have plugged in to my TV? (assuming signal is adequate) |
| [15:55:00] | fryfrog: | there's the rub eh? :) |
| [15:55:00] | fryfrog: | its hard to know for sure until you try :/ |
| [15:55:00] | Merlin83b2: | Do you already have a freeview box, wibbit? |
| [15:56:00] | wibbit: | nope |
| [15:56:00] | wibbit: | just a tv |
| [15:56:00] | wibbit: | and an arial |
| [15:56:00] | wibbit: | plus plug (the usual sort) |
| [15:56:00] | wibbit: | for power that is :) |
| [15:56:00] | Merlin83b2: | Then as fryfrog says, you won't know until you try. |
| [15:56:00] | Merlin83b2: | DVB does require a better signal than analogue. |
| [15:57:00] | Merlin83b2: | In 3 places, I haven't had to upgrade the aerial. |
| [15:57:00] | wibbit: | Well the TV signal for every thing appart from 5 is shadow and snow free |
| [15:58:00] | wibbit: | I'm in the Old Street area of london which is fairly flat and central |
| [15:58:00] | Merlin83b2: | It's a good start :-) |
| [15:58:00] | wibbit: | but 30 quid isn't too bad |
| [15:58:00] | wibbit: | to make a mistake on :o) |
| [15:58:00] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, give it a go! |
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| [16:10:00] | Chacabaou: | Should I set mythweb's constant 'hostname' to the individual hostname-value of my backend (!= real hostname)? |
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| [16:14:00] | psofa: | any good commits since last week? |
| [16:15:00] | psofa: | With last weeks cvs mythbackend hangs while watching livetv |
| [16:15:00] | psofa: | on dvb-s |
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| [16:20:00] | aquariUS: | What's the minimum spec I could get away with for a Myth frontend box that can play (but not necessarily record) DVDs? |
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| [16:20:00] | ivor: | depends |
| [16:22:00] | aquariUS: | I thought it might. On what does it depend? I'm not sure where to find answers without asking you chaps who know about this stuff :) |
| [16:23:00] | ivor: | depends on whether you're trying to do everything in software or whether you have hardware on either your motherboard or video card to help. |
| [16:23:00] | ivor: | for example it's possible to playback dvds and dvb on a 600Mhz via cpu with xvmc accelleration. |
| [16:23:00] | aquariUS: | Ah, OK. I'm trying to work out how much it will cost me to build myth frontends, so everything's up for customisation. Which is likely to be better both in quality and in monetary terms? |
| [16:24:00] | ivor: | depends |
| [16:24:00] | ivor: | :) |
| [16:24:00] | aquariUS: | :-) |
| [16:24:00] | ivor: | how big, how noisy, how expensive etc. |
| [16:24:00] | Merlin83b2: | Heh. |
| [16:24:00] | aquariUS: | small, quiet. |
| [16:24:00] | ivor: | depends where you are located, how cheap your suppliers are etc etc etc |
| [16:24:00] | Merlin83b2: | I like the look of Tranquil T3 with EPIA M6k |
| [16:24:00] | Juski: | will you ever want to play back HDTV recordings? if so, don't use EPIA stuff for now |
| [16:25:00] | aquariUS: | I'm in the UK, so I don't care much about HDTV :) |
| [16:25:00] | ivor: | Juski: ? an epia 10000 will do hdtv at 60% cpu. |
| [16:25:00] | ** Juski uses an EPIA M-10k for his frontend.. plays everything he can throw at it ** | |
| [16:25:00] | Juski: | ivor: really?! |
| [16:25:00] | ivor: | a unichrome-pro can. |
| [16:25:00] | Merlin83b2: | You do Juski? |
| [16:25:00] | Juski: | ah |
| [16:25:00] | Merlin83b2: | I may have to demand you come and fix mine :-) |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | yeh Merlin I told you the other day |
| [16:26:00] | ivor: | damn I sound like a via salesman... I'm not even that keen on the company or hardware! :) |
| [16:26:00] | Merlin83b2: | I had it in my head that you used something else :-) |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | Just seen a posting about a new EPIA distro |
| [16:26:00] | levon: | well, hdtv != hdtv... I cannot run a 1080i on my M10k, not even on my laptop. |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | only has support for Hauppauge PVR cards though |
| [16:26:00] | Merlin83b2: | What distro do you use? |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | minimyth |
| [16:26:00] | Juski: | 0.18.1.2 |
| [16:26:00] | ivor: | levon: an m10k isn't a unichrome-pro.... it won't do hdtv. |
| [16:26:00] | sphing: | ivor: everything i've read says you cant with an M10k |
| [16:27:00] | sphing: | lol..ok |
| [16:27:00] | ivor: | rofl. |
| [16:27:00] | levon: | ivor, that's what I'm talking about ;) |
| [16:27:00] | Juski: | so I gather that linux support for the new decoder chip is building, eh? |
| [16:29:00] | Merlin83b2: | I may have to have a go with MiniMyth and see if that fixes my problems. |
| [16:31:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b2: minimyth is only for frontends |
| [16:31:00] | Merlin83b2: | Oh :-( |
| [16:34:00] | Merlin83b2: | I see a mail to mythtv-users coming on in the next day or two. |
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| [16:34:00] | Merlin83b2: | I have a lot of information to put in one place. |
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| [16:35:00] | Juski: | you know, Merlin – if you have a spare low-powered box lying around you could try that as the backend. you'll gain a big advantage from that – namely that you can make the frontend diskless & totally silent |
| [16:36:00] | Juski: | from what I've read of the Tranquil boxes they're far from that. 27dBA ain't silent. The M10k's HSF was reckoned to be 25dBA & I could hear it from my sofa, so it had to go |
| [16:38:00] | sphing: | diskless frontends are pretty sweet |
| [16:38:00] | Juski: | yeh but only if the footprint of the OS is low enough to load in <90 secs |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, if you take that long to boot then you have problems :) |
| [16:39:00] | Merlin83b2: | Juski: Tranquil PCs are pretty quiet ;-) |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | My boxes are up at 25–40 seconds |
| [16:39:00] | Merlin83b2: | For cabling purposes, the frontend kind of needs to go in the living room :-( |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | and that might be a high estimate |
| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I should time them one of these days |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | hmm I think I might need to rethink my little cheap switch in that case |
| [16:41:00] | Juski: | or optimise the NFS share better |
| [16:41:00] | sphing: | my xbox takes forever to boot, but then again i have no optimizations |
| [16:41:00] | Juski: | /diskless/minimyth 192.168.1.12(rw,sync,no_root_squash) – can that be any better? |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cut off from home right now so I can't check what I have |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | I'm not sure it needs to sync – seen as the frontend has no local storage |
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| [16:43:00] | Juski: | and the local content rarely changes (i.e., the root) |
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| [16:44:00] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: 25 secs? damn I need to speed mine up again I thought 45s was rockin. |
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| [16:47:00] | Juski: | precious little info in the exports manual about optimising |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh that's where google and experimentation comes in handy |
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| [16:55:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: how did you say you did it so that you only had to update once and changes propogated to all diskless |
| [16:56:00] | Merlin83b2: | Juski: What % (looking at top) does your CPU hit when viewing LiveTV on the epia box? |
| [16:56:00] | sphing: | 10 |
| [16:56:00] | sphing: | M10k |
| [16:56:00] | Merlin83b2: | m10k |
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| [16:57:00] | Merlin83b2: | I get the feeling that mine hitting 75% or so is a little abnormal. |
| [16:57:00] | sphing: | yea do you have xvmc |
| [16:57:00] | Merlin83b2: | I do. |
| [16:57:00] | ivor: | does it work |
| [16:57:00] | Merlin83b2: | running mythfrontend from a terminal shows it loading XvMC up. |
| [16:57:00] | Merlin83b2: | So I believe so. |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | Merlin: no idea |
| [17:01:00] | Juski: | I can check though |
| [17:01:00] | Merlin83b2: | That would be good, thanks :-) |
| [17:01:00] | Merlin83b2: | I will owe you a beer if I ever get this thing working. |
| [17:02:00] | Merlin83b2: | sphing: Do you use an m10k? |
| [17:02:00] | sphing: | yes |
| [17:02:00] | Merlin83b2: | Using the onboard sound? |
| [17:02:00] | sphing: | Merlin83b: I can help you in a few... i'm a little busy at the moment |
| [17:02:00] | Merlin83b2: | Okay, no probs. |
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| [17:04:00] | Juski: | 16% |
| [17:04:00] | Merlin83b2: | Oh. |
| [17:04:00] | Merlin83b2: | Something is definitely up. |
| [17:04:00] | Merlin83b2: | Do you use the onboard sound, Juski? |
| [17:04:00] | Juski: | yeh |
| [17:05:00] | Juski: | CPU peaked at 50% for a few secs.. then went down |
| [17:05:00] | Merlin83b2: | Mine does just the opposite – starts out low but takes a few seconds to get very high. |
| [17:05:00] | Juski: | I don't use the analogue sound though – it's shit as a shitty thing |
| [17:06:00] | Merlin83b2: | I don't have a digital receiver :< |
| [17:07:00] | Merlin83b2: | Although switching it to have a go and see if that's the problem might be a plan. |
| [17:07:00] | Juski: | neither did I, til I got one :-) |
| [17:07:00] | Merlin83b2: | Heh. |
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| [17:07:00] | Merlin83b2: | How do you switch over – is it that jumper on the board? |
| [17:07:00] | Juski: | yes, and the manual was wrong |
| [17:07:00] | sphing: | Merlin83b: yes i'm using onboard sound |
| [17:07:00] | Juski: | says the default position is composite out, but it's not |
| [17:08:00] | Juski: | wait a sec... anyway it's the opposite of what the manual says |
| [17:08:00] | Merlin83b2: | I need to track down my S-video cable then. |
| [17:08:00] | Merlin83b2: | sphing: How about your CPU usage when playing LiveTV? Any idea? (or ability to check!?) |
| [17:08:00] | sphing: | give me one sec and ill check |
| [17:08:00] | Merlin83b2: | Thanks. |
| [17:08:00] | sphing: | between 10 – 20 though |
| [17:09:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b2: have you tried the trick of setting the DVB card to use TS rather than PS recording? |
| [17:09:00] | Merlin83b2: | Oh, I think we have found the problem. |
| [17:09:00] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, that didn't seem to make any difference, except that the recording can now be played on another machine with sound. |
| [17:09:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [17:09:00] | Merlin83b2: | The extra audio buffering option made quite a difference though so I'm happy to blame something soundy for now. |
| [17:10:00] | Juski: | I've been meaning to go have a look at the code to see what the actual difference is with that |
| [17:10:00] | Merlin83b2: | I need extra extra audio buffering or something. |
| [17:11:00] | sphing: | 15.8, 28.9, stable at about 16.5 |
| [17:11:00] | Juski: | erm.. if playback is hogging so much CPU it's more likely to be video to blame, I'd have thought |
| [17:11:00] | Merlin83b2: | I found some stuff on the mailing list archives about people using USB SBLive cards so I've been seeing if anyone I know has one. |
| [17:11:00] | Nichotin: | you thinking about the extigys? |
| [17:11:00] | Merlin83b2: | I'd have thought so too but I'm not sure what about it – XvMC seems to often be the culprit but the textual output of mythfrontend seems to say that's being used. |
| [17:12:00] | Juski: | ugh.. USB & SB Live.. now there's a bad combination if there ever was one |
| [17:12:00] | Merlin83b2: | Just something to try if any of my mates had one lying around :-) |
| [17:12:00] | Juski: | I'm not saying the onboard sound is unusable.. it's just noisy when you really crank your stereo up |
| [17:12:00] | Juski: | which we like to do in this house |
| [17:13:00] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, the myth box is really the first step in getting the living room setup improved. A new amp will follow before too long. |
| [17:13:00] | Juski: | went all the way to 11 on NYE.. strange max to have on an amp |
| [17:13:00] | Merlin83b2: | Heh. |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | yamaha home cinema receivers.. they go all the way up to 11 |
| [17:14:00] | Merlin83b2: | I did try dropping the MP3 quality down to 2 in the setting but it didn't make any difference. |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | erm... |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | mp3 quality? |
| [17:14:00] | Merlin83b2: | In recording profiles. |
| [17:14:00] | Juski: | if you've got a DVB card that wouldn't make any diff |
| [17:15:00] | Merlin83b2: | That is a fair point. |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | stick to the default or expect serious breakage ;) |
| [17:15:00] | Merlin83b2: | I'm getting to the clutching at straws stage. |
| [17:15:00] | Juski: | Merlin: you have any divx/xvid lying around? |
| [17:15:00] | Merlin83b2: | They play fine. |
| [17:16:00] | Merlin83b2: | Haven't looked at CPU usage though. |
| [17:16:00] | Juski: | so it's definitely myth related then |
| [17:16:00] | Merlin83b2: | Seems to be, yes. |
| [17:16:00] | Juski: | how about playing a recording? is that ok? |
| [17:16:00] | Merlin83b2: | If it's from another mux, yes. |
| [17:16:00] | Juski: | ok. so what about playing a recording from a 'dodgy' mux in xine or mplayer? |
| [17:16:00] | Merlin83b2: | It's stuff from the 754166670 mux that breaks, either in live or prerecorded, and particularly bbc1. |
| [17:17:00] | Merlin83b2: | Playing the recording from the dodgy mux on another machine works fine. |
| [17:17:00] | Juski: | I still think it's that pesky audio description channel |
| [17:17:00] | Merlin83b2: | Wouldn't the TS setting have got rid of that, though? |
| [17:17:00] | Merlin83b2: | Or put it 'in the background' at least? |
| [17:17:00] | Juski: | I had exactly the same issue until I swapped to TS & 'use hardware decoding' (even though my cards don't have that) |
| [17:18:00] | Juski: | xbox would play it fine, but myth wouldnt |
| [17:18:00] | Merlin83b2: | Ooh, now that I haven't tried. |
| [17:18:00] | Merlin83b2: | The use pvr350 decoding thinger? |
| [17:18:00] | Juski: | I think it's a limitation of the via xvmc |
| [17:18:00] | Juski: | no |
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| [17:18:00] | Juski: | another setting in mythtv-setup |
| [17:18:00] | Merlin83b2: | I will have to give that one a go. |
| [17:18:00] | Juski: | the symptom on my system was as follows: |
| [17:18:00] | Merlin83b2: | If I can find it :-) |
| [17:19:00] | Merlin83b2: | advanced card options? |
| [17:19:00] | Juski: | BBC1 recordings would play, but seemed to be slow motion (half speed).. audio would be about the right speed but very gappy |
| [17:19:00] | Juski: | yep.. that |
| [17:19:00] | Merlin83b2: | That's exactly what's happening on mine. |
| [17:19:00] | Juski: | then restart mythbackend |
| [17:19:00] | Merlin83b2: | Will do when I get home from work. |
| [17:20:00] | Merlin83b2: | So something about hardware decoding under advanced card options for the dvb card then :-) |
| [17:20:00] | Merlin83b2: | in mythtv-setup |
| [17:20:00] | Juski: | yeh |
| [17:20:00] | ** Merlin83b2 tries not to get hopes up too much. ** | |
| [17:21:00] | Juski: | it won't make any difference to the operation, but something in it makes the streams get treated differently somehow |
| [17:21:00] | Juski: | as far as I know the problem has never resurfaced |
| [17:22:00] | Juski: | and I tend to record more from the BBC mux than anything else |
| [17:23:00] | Merlin83b2: | Yeah, it's so far a show-stopper for me. |
| [17:23:00] | Merlin83b2: | (no pun intended) |
| [17:23:00] | Merlin83b2: | If I can fix it, I'm getting a Tranquil T2e with a socking great HDD and another Nova-T. |
| [17:24:00] | dmz: | anyone have a recommendation for a good HD (720p, 1080i) output card (with dvi)? i got the nvidia gforce 6200 and it just can't handle it |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | when I'm done testing this theme out, my 3rd tuner is going into the current backend |
| [17:24:00] | Merlin83b2: | 3 tuners? That's just being greedy! |
| [17:24:00] | Juski: | dmz: I bet you didn't get xvmc to work |
| [17:25:00] | Merlin83b2: | I'm using (and liking) MythCenter. |
| [17:25:00] | Juski: | eew |
| [17:25:00] | sphing: | Merlin83b: you should see beirdo's setup |
| [17:25:00] | sphing: | its like a 6 tunners |
| [17:25:00] | sphing: | and 2 tb of space |
| [17:25:00] | sphing: | or something ridiculous |
| [17:25:00] | Merlin83b2: | Blimey. |
| [17:25:00] | ** Juski gets defensive about his theme now ** | |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | 3 tuners.. |
| [17:25:00] | Merlin83b2: | Juski: Let's have a look at yours then ;-) |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | and 400GB for videos |
| [17:26:00] | Juski: | www.juski.co.uk (shameless plug) |
| [17:26:00] | dmz: | Juski nope it just doesn't seem to like my 6200 |
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| [17:26:00] | dmz: | so i figure it's just easier to get another card than to fight it |
| [17:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Oooo. Themey goodness. |
| [17:27:00] | Merlin83b2: | Pretty dark, Juski... |
| [17:27:00] | ** dmz knows i should have put the extra $75 into the gforce fx :| ** | |
| [17:27:00] | Juski: | Merlin: not on my telly it ain't |
| [17:27:00] | Merlin83b2: | Perhaps it's just on computer monitors then. |
| [17:27:00] | dmz: | Juski the sad thing is when i play the same .nuv with xing (copied into myvideo folder) it only used 10% of the cpu, it's mythfrontend that uses 99% |
| [17:27:00] | Merlin83b2: | I may give it a go :-) |
| [17:27:00] | dmz: | s/xing/xine |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | dmz: then mythtv hasn't been compiled with xvmc support – that'd be my guess |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | or maybe it couldn't find the libraries when it needed em |
| [17:28:00] | dmz: | juski, the option is there for it, and i don't have xine running with any xvmc options |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [17:28:00] | Merlin83b2: | Right, time to go home and try that elisuve option. |
| [17:28:00] | Juski: | time for me to go back to bed |
| [17:29:00] | dmz: | you'd think a 4ghz p4 should be able to handle it anyway |
| [17:29:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [17:29:00] | dmz: | something's borked :( |
| [17:29:00] | Juski: | you using opengl sync with the newest nvidia driver? I hear that eats up CPU like no tomorrow |
| [17:30:00] | dmz: | ahh yeah i do have opengl sync |
| [17:30:00] | dmz: | and definately the latest driver |
| [17:30:00] | dmz: | let me turn that off and see if it helps |
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| [17:31:00] | dmz: | ahhhhhhh |
| [17:31:00] | dmz: | juski you rock |
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| [17:31:00] | dmz: | turned it off & I'm down to 10% cpu |
| [17:31:00] | dmz: | now if only i had a good HD theme ;) |
| [17:33:00] | Chacabaou: | Why is it, that when choosing 'Recording Groups Only' as Group View, the LiveTV-Group doesn't appear on the left? (I also disabled "Show 'LiveTV' recordings when using 'All Programs' filter") |
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| [17:39:00] | Juski: | dmz: you have a mailing list contributor to thank for that little tip :-) |
| [17:39:00] | Juski: | I think he goes by the name 'GreyFoxx' ;) |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | ;) |
| [17:40:00] | dmz: | GreyFoxx THANKS!!!! :-) |
| [17:41:00] | Juski: | nvidia might fix opengl sync in the next release of their driver.. or they might bugger something else up |
| [17:42:00] | Juski: | you might notice some 'tearing' of video, though – so if you'd like to go back to using opengl sync, revert to an older driver.. 7667 I think, or have a look in the mailing list archive |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well it was first noticed in 8174 and reported, shortly after 8178 came out but it still had the problem. I just use 7676 and everything is happy |
| [17:43:00] | Chutt: | opengl vsync doesn't affect tearing. |
| [17:43:00] | Chacabaou: | Should I set mythweb's constant 'hostname' to the individual hostname-value of my backend (!= real hostname)? |
| [17:44:00] | dmz: | it seems kinda ok for me atm, i'm going to not mess with it anymore other than to swap out my pvr350 for a 500, juts gotta find out what IR receiver to switch to |
| [17:44:00] | ** Juski thought it did. oh well ** | |
| [17:44:00] | dmz: | and to try out juski's theme whenever it's released :) |
| [17:45:00] | Juski: | did some more work on it today. I'll be checking it when I feel a bit better |
| [17:45:00] | Juski: | anyway.. nighty night |
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| [17:45:00] | dmz: | nite |
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| [18:12:00] | Delemas: | 2006-01–03 13:10:15.052 Channel(/dev/video0)::SetColourAttribute(): failed to query controls, error: Invalid argument <- Anyone seen this before? |
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| [18:23:00] | Delemas: | hmm looks like a ivtvctl vs. driver version mismatch. never mind... |
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| [18:29:00] | Delemas: | hmm nope that didn't help... |
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| [18:51:00] | Juski: | gonna have to update my svn machine.. DVB radio (woohoo!) |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | uck-fay! |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | I could use some "normal FM Radio" support some day |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | oooh |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | that gives me an idea |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:52:00] | Juski: | if you get bored you could rewrite mythFM ;) |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | use my crappy old tuner for FM only, stream it as MP3 for music on hold for asterisk |
| [18:53:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [18:53:00] | sphing: | lol |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | just make it as obnoxious as possible... |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | country? rap? |
| [18:53:00] | Juski: | talk radio? |
| [18:53:00] | sphing: | hi i'd like to ask some few questions.... let me put you on hold |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | nah, that can actually be interesting |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | urban hip-hop and rap would annoy the most people, I think |
| [18:54:00] | Juski: | yeh I find Charlie Wolf on 'talksport' quite funny with his hard-line bush-loving point of view |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | or I could put in two tuners |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | and mix country with rap |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:54:00] | sphing: | dj beirdo on the turn tables |
| [18:55:00] | Juski: | in da mix ;) |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | nah, just 50% mix. |
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| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | both simultaneously |
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| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | that would be SO horrible |
| [18:55:00] | Juski: | might be interesting... ending up with song titles like "your cheating HO" |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | BRB |
| [18:56:00] | Juski: | word to your slide geeetarr |
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| [19:27:00] | Nichotin: | yarr. mythtv breaks when building against qt4 on my system :( |
| [19:29:00] | Chutt: | because qt4 isn't backwards compatabile with qt3? |
| [19:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | that's probably the tune of the song, yeah ;) |
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| [19:31:00] | cosmo_: | any gentoo users in here know how to build a diskless 386 frontend rootfs within a chroot on an athlon64 master backend? |
| [19:32:00] | Nichotin: | Chutt: yeah. I have noticed that. I unmerged qt4 as a temporary workaround |
| [19:32:00] | ** Nichotin hopes the svn build compiles ** | |
| [19:34:00] | Fitzsimmons: | cosmo_: diskless eh? |
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| [19:37:00] | cosmo_: | Fitzsimmons, yup, having trouble finding a nice comprehensive tutorial for myth. but Ive done diskless before, Ive just never attempted to build i386 clients on a 64 bit system |
| [19:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | how do you plan to boot it? |
| [19:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | network I guess... |
| [19:37:00] | cosmo_: | etherboot |
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| [19:39:00] | Fitzsimmons: | can't you just change the CHOST line in make.conf? |
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| [19:39:00] | cosmo_: | well, the CHOST is set for 386 |
| [19:39:00] | cosmo_: | I think Imay have just realized the mistake, gimme one moment |
| [19:40:00] | cosmo_: | I used mount -o bind /usr/portage /diskless-root/usr/portage, so I wonder if it simply used the wrong distfile from the 64 bit system,,,,,,,,, |
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| [19:46:00] | Ediehow: | hi friends |
| [19:46:00] | Ediehow: | just upgraded new kernel |
| [19:46:00] | Ediehow: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/myth/store//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [19:46:00] | Ediehow: | ? |
| [19:46:00] | Ediehow: | on livetv |
| [19:47:00] | Ediehow: | the ringbuf file is not there, but other records and nfslockfile.ock are there |
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| [19:55:00] | Ediehow: | err |
| [19:55:00] | Ediehow: | i don't have a tveeprom module |
| [19:55:00] | Ediehow: | where are those? |
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| [20:00:00] | sphenxes: | I am planning to buy Hauppauge WinTV card and installed under Suse. where can I find the supporting drivers to the card. is there any rpm out there. |
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| [20:02:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I thought they were supported in the vanilla kernel |
| [20:02:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I could be wrong though, since I don't have one |
| [20:03:00] | sphenxes: | Fitzsimmons, thanks |
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| [20:08:00] | Ediehow: | where is tveeprom and stuff in kernel config |
| [20:08:00] | Ediehow: | ? |
| [20:09:00] | AlefBet: | I've got a PVR 500 and I think I have a simple problem, but I don't know exactly how to search the archiives for it. |
| [20:10:00] | AlefBet: | Okay if I ask here? The things I tried searching on didn't help me. |
| [20:11:00] | AlefBet: | I've set it up and the first tuner is working fine, but there's something wrong with the program information on the second tuner. |
| [20:11:00] | AlefBet: | While I'm recording on the first tuner, if I watch live TV, I can't change channels on the second. |
| [20:11:00] | AlefBet: | ANd I don't get any program info when I press "i". |
| [20:12:00] | AlefBet: | It's a different program from what the first is recording, though, so I'm pretty sure the hardware for the second tuner is being recognized at some level. |
| [20:12:00] | AlefBet: | Is there a FAQ specifically for dual tuner cards? Or the 500? |
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| [20:20:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | I hate having to debug what other people setup |
| [20:23:00] | Ediehow: | hi beavis |
| [20:23:00] | Ediehow: | err |
| [20:23:00] | Ediehow: | hi Beirdo |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | Hi butthead |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | err |
| [20:23:00] | Ediehow: | ;) |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | Ediehow :) |
| [20:23:00] | Ediehow: | it nickcompleted |
| [20:24:00] | beavis: | :P |
| [20:25:00] | Ediehow: | i wonder why they recommend you upgrade to ivtv 5.2 if you go to 2.6.15 |
| [20:29:00] | AlienBaby: | Probably like LIRC.. maybe some kernel features changed names.. |
| [20:30:00] | Delemas: | Among other things... |
| [20:31:00] | Delemas: | After ivtv 0.4.0 the other modules which ivtv.ko uses are in the kernel. That is a moving target and the ivtv-0.4.1, as far as I can tell, isn't really setup for 2.6.15+. Or at least I couldn't get it going... |
| [20:32:00] | Delemas: | I've been able to get ivtv head working but it still has some issues getting along with mythtv. I may roll back to head rev3083... |
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| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | you giving ivtv head? lucky ivtv. |
| [20:38:00] | ** DarkBeer is now known as rev3083 ;) ** | |
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| [20:39:00] | Ediehow: | Delemas: did you go with the other modules? |
| [20:40:00] | Ediehow: | brb |
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| [20:42:00] | AlienBaby: | Are the key mappings for mythtv in the source code, or can I change them easily. |
| [20:42:00] | AlienBaby: | Example.. while watching live tv.. |
| [20:42:00] | AlienBaby: | Pressing S to get the Program guide up.. |
| [20:43:00] | AlienBaby: | you search for a program, and press OK on the remote.. |
| [20:43:00] | AlienBaby: | it gets you Recording screen.. instead of changing the channel.. |
| [20:43:00] | AlienBaby: | You have to Press M to change the channel |
| [20:44:00] | AlienBaby: | Ok being mapped to the Enter key.. |
| [20:44:00] | praet: | AlienBaby you could edit the db, but there is an interface to those keys in mythweb |
| [20:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Some are configurable. I know you can get at some of them through mythweb, and there is a mythcontrol plugin for configuring keys as well I believe |
| [20:44:00] | Delemas: | Myth seems to have some issues using ivtv 0.5.x HEAD. It complains about setting color related stuff and playback looks odd... Channel(/dev/video0)::SetColourAttribute(): failed to query controls, error: Invalid argument |
| [20:45:00] | Delemas: | Haven't had a chance to find what is triggering that in Myth's source yet.. |
| [20:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | AlienBaby: As for having to hit M while in the EPG to change channels instead of Enter, I think that's configurable. At least in SVN, I don |
| [20:45:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: make my nvidia card do TV out |
| [20:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | 't remember as far back as 0.18 |
| [20:46:00] | ** Beirdo smashes Cardoe's nvidia card and hands him an ATI card ** | |
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| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | all fixed |
| [20:46:00] | praet is now known as praet^ | |
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| [20:47:00] | praet: | anyone using the actisys ir blaster? |
| [20:47:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: ok. Gimme an ATI card then |
| [20:47:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | my 9600pro works like a charm |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | others have gotten nvidia stuff working with no problems |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
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| [20:48:00] | praet: | Cardoe: how far did you get |
| [20:48:00] | Cardoe: | it's on a PPC |
| [20:48:00] | Cardoe: | so I can't use the binary drivers |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | oh good GOD man |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | give up |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:48:00] | Cardoe: | lol |
| [20:48:00] | Cardoe: | thx |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | I think for either to give TV out, you need binary drivers |
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| [20:48:00] | ediehow: | he left:( |
| [20:49:00] | ediehow: | ivtv0: Failed to load module cx25840 |
| [20:49:00] | ediehow: | ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0xc008561c! |
| [20:49:00] | ediehow: | ivtv0: Failed to load module wm8775 |
| [20:49:00] | ediehow: | where are those modules? i can't find them under video4linux |
| [20:50:00] | praet: | Cardoe convince nvidia to release the source |
| [20:50:00] | ediehow: | nvidia is releasing driver source? |
| [20:50:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: well how does chutt get his mac mini to work? |
| [20:50:00] | praet: | no but you could try getting a job there :) |
| [20:50:00] | Cardoe: | with Linux |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, you'd have to ask him :) |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | and I think that's DVI out, not TV out, no? |
| [20:51:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
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| [20:54:00] | Cardoe: | grrr |
| [20:54:00] | Cardoe: | the TV flickers |
| [20:54:00] | Cardoe: | the open source BeOS drivers have it working |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | BeOTCH drivers :) |
| [20:56:00] | sphing: | beOS |
| [20:56:00] | sphing: | lol |
| [20:57:00] | sphing: | we learned about that in my file systems class, my professor made it seam like it was ancient |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | your professor is likely ancient too :) |
| [20:57:00] | sphing: | ha |
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| [21:15:00] | AlienBaby: | Mythweb's keybindings page appears to be pulling the keybindings table from the DB verbatum. Anyone know the keyword for the the Program Guide.. |
| [21:15:00] | AlienBaby: | or can this table even be added to. |
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| [21:19:00] | malaTG: | I know that this is really of topic however I don't seem to get any help on the nvidiaforum so ill try it here..... My friend runs a mythsystem but his picture lies a bit of from the center so he don't see the whole picture is there a way to move the picture to the left? He has a nvidia card |
| [21:20:00] | qfour20: | question: anyone have issues with alsa/sblive! dropping mixer levels with mythtv? |
| [21:20:00] | qfour20: | every time I do something new (start playing new recording, change songs in mythmusic, etc.) my mixer levels will revert to 70% maximum for master volume and for pcm volume. |
| [21:21:00] | qfour20: | right now, i have cron'ed up "alsactl restore" as an ugly workaround... wondering if anyone else had seen this issue |
| [21:21:00] | AlienBaby: | mala.. yes.. check setup / appearance.. and there is one other place |
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| [21:21:00] | malaTG: | thx ill do that! |
| [21:21:00] | Ediehow: | where do you get v4l-cx2341-enc.fw? |
| [21:21:00] | kormoc: | qfour20, are you running any sound daemons? |
| [21:21:00] | qfour20: | not that I'm aware of |
| [21:22:00] | qfour20: | what would I be looking for? |
| [21:22:00] | kormoc: | arts, esd are two I know of |
| [21:22:00] | AlienBaby: | mala, one place for the GUI part of myth.. and one place for the TV playback.. I haven't played with the TV playback one.. |
| [21:22:00] | malaTG: | ok thx |
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| [21:22:00] | qfour20: | nope... no arts or esd. it's a from scratch gentoo build, so I don't think anything else is in there |
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| [21:42:00] | psofa: | does anyone get the backend crash? |
| [21:42:00] | psofa: | im using last weeks cvs |
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| [21:42:00] | psofa: | while watching livetv the backend will crash |
| [21:43:00] | psofa: | qfour20, i get that too |
| [21:43:00] | psofa: | sound goes to 70% |
| [21:43:00] | psofa: | and i have to manually restore it |
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| [21:45:00] | Ryushin: | Well, my mythbox with my HD-3000 card and PVR-350 card is working great now. Been very happy with it. Only one real bug to work out is the BOB de-interlacing. |
| [21:46:00] | defiI: | Guys sort of a long hdtv question coming... |
| [21:46:00] | defiI: | Ive take the DDC values straight from the TV itself and used them to make a modeline |
| [21:46:00] | defiI: | When I fire up x it shows the display and is using my modeline but the edges are extending beyond the screen |
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| [21:46:00] | defiI: | Its not using a virtual desktop and I can see where the terminal attaches to the side before going to another workspace |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | defiI: that's called overscan |
| [21:47:00] | defiI: | Its not using a virtual desktop and I can see where the terminal attaches to the side before going to another workspace |
| [21:47:00] | defiI: | Now is this something I could change in my xorg.conf, or do I need to adjust my TV |
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| [21:47:00] | Juski: | lots of TVs do it, even these days |
| [21:47:00] | defiI: | Juski, ok can I correct it with X |
| [21:47:00] | defiI: | Or do I need to order the service manual? |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | maybe, if you try xvidtune or something |
| [21:47:00] | defiI: | hmm |
| [21:48:00] | defiI: | will that alter my resolution? |
| [21:48:00] | Ryushin: | Just found out the ivtv .5 code uses the kernel modules themselves now instead of their own. |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | or you can adjust the GUI size in the appearances settings |
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| [21:48:00] | defiI: | in xorg.conf? |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | no, in mythtv |
| [21:48:00] | defiI: | ohh |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | most TVs overscan anywhere from 5% to 15% (usually about 10%) |
| [21:49:00] | defiI: | I did that before and it worked like a charm but I want to make sure everything will be perfectly lined up |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | its a hangover from the 1950s before video timing devices were crystal controlled (i.e. accurate) |
| [21:49:00] | defiI: | so when I play a dvd its centered and displaying the entire picture |
| [21:49:00] | defiI: | Juski, ok |
| [21:49:00] | Ryushin: | Juski: My Samsung DLP is around 2–3% so it doesn't really bother me. |
| [21:50:00] | defiI: | Ryushin, I think mines not that bad either but it cuts off some words |
| [21:50:00] | defiI: | I mena letters |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | it'll be annoying though – broadcasters sometimes don't use all the available screen area for picture |
| [21:50:00] | defiI: | *mean |
| [21:50:00] | defiI: | I'm wondering if you could adjust the actual tv for overscan? |
| [21:50:00] | Merlin83b: | You have a weird sleeping pattern, Juski. |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | so sometimes you _need_ overscan not to see certain things |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | Merlin – got cold still, so napping as & when.. lots of resticles |
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| [21:51:00] | Juski: | just taking a break from sweating it out |
| [21:51:00] | Merlin83b: | Ah, fair enough. |
| [21:52:00] | Ryushin: | defiI: I looked into doing this. I spent two days on it trying to create the exact modeline. In the end it wasn't worth it to only save a few pixles. |
| [21:52:00] | Merlin83b: | The hardware decoding for on existent hardware option has caused big improvements. |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | I'll sleep well tonight though.. I'm kooking fnackered |
| [21:52:00] | Merlin83b: | It now takes a couple of minutes before the jittery play starts. |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | cool :) |
| [21:52:00] | ** Beirdo tosses Juski a bottle of scotch ** | |
| [21:52:00] | Ryushin: | I found out even my DVD's are overscanned as well using a Samsung DVD player. I think it's just the way the DLP chip is being reflected onto the back of the screen. At least for me. |
| [21:53:00] | defiI: | Ryushin, what did you do adjust the myth gui sizwe? |
| [21:53:00] | Ryushin: | In fact, I need to spend more time working on the modeline so I can get BOB de-interlacing to work. |
| [21:53:00] | Juski: | DVD authors & TV producers/editors have a thing called 'safe area' they work to.. i.e. the inner 10% of the screen. for titles it's like 15% |
| [21:53:00] | Merlin83b: | However, the jitteriness is now accompanied by the "prebuffering pause" messages on the console for mythfrontend |
| [21:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Of which there is much in the list archives. |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b: getting xvmc going will help with that |
| [21:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Still looking for a culprit. |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | get that magical 15% CPU usage when playing TV |
| [21:54:00] | Merlin83b: | Using XvMC version: 1.0 |
| [21:54:00] | Merlin83b: | XvMC found and using VLD surface |
| [21:54:00] | Merlin83b: | 2006-01–03 21:45:14.557 Using XV port 64 |
| [21:54:00] | Merlin83b: | I'd say XvMC was working... |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b: yeah but is it xvmc for Via chipsets? ;) |
| [21:55:00] | Ryushin: | defiI: I just run the native HD resolution of my screen which is 720p. Very little of the myth window is cut out (so little that I don't notice it). |
| [21:55:00] | Merlin83b: | It should be, I have that option checked in myth |
| [21:55:00] | Juski: | god, we really _do_ need more widescreen themes don't we? |
| [21:55:00] | Ryushin: | When the KDE WM comes up, I can see it cut off about 15 pixels or so around the screen. That's the only way I new I was even having overscan. |
| [21:55:00] | Merlin83b: | (II) VIA(0): [XvMC] Initialized XvMC extension. |
| [21:55:00] | Merlin83b: | From XFree86.log.0 |
| [21:55:00] | Juski: | Merlin: in that case.. er.. I'm stumped for now |
| [21:55:00] | defiI: | Ryushin, ok Ill give it a shot and see what happens |
| [21:55:00] | Merlin83b: | Oh dear. |
| [21:56:00] | Merlin83b: | That mail to the list is looming. |
| [21:56:00] | Juski: | Merlin83b: BUT... do you see any messages in the frontend output about things wrong with the stream? |
| [21:56:00] | Ryushin: | Merlin83b: Have you watched the log using the logging option for the mythfrontend? |
| [21:57:00] | Juski: | you might still have an issue with signal levels or interference etc |
| [21:57:00] | Merlin83b: | Ryushin: I'm running it form a console, is there more logging available. |
| [21:57:00] | Merlin83b: | I do not, Juski |
| [21:58:00] | Juski: | you can run it with -v all I think |
| [21:58:00] | Ryushin: | defii: There is an option to adjust the myth gui size by a percentage, either in mythtv-setup or in the mythfrontend setup. |
| [21:58:00] | Juski: | defiI: or you can set the size to an absolute (X, Y size & offset) |
| [21:58:00] | Merlin83b: | mythfrontend setup, defiI. |
| [21:59:00] | Ryushin: | Merlin83b: run this: mythfrontend -v playback -l /var/log/mythtv/frontend.log |
| [21:59:00] | Juski: | utils/setup > setup > appearance |
| [21:59:00] | defiI: | OK but do all the apps follow that size also? |
| [21:59:00] | Juski: | defiI: only the mythtv GUI |
| [21:59:00] | Juski: | and TV if you select it |
| [21:59:00] | defiI: | I had a problem last time with the program guide being about 3/4 off the screen |
| [22:00:00] | defiI: | when switching to it while in tv mode |
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| [22:00:00] | Juski: | time for a hot toddy type thing |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | time for mucho booze |
| [22:01:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it's mucho boozo |
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| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | we have mucho bozos |
| [22:02:00] | Beirdo: | if any of you bastards are into sending dictionary attack spam.... look out, I have a pitchfork with your name on it! |
| [22:03:00] | defiI: | When you first install the mysql DB you do it as root? |
| [22:03:00] | Merlin83b: | Okay, Ryushin, I have the output of that and it did the same... |
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| [22:12:00] | Wibble-: | hi – I'm looking at setting up a mythbox; but the only card that I know someone has working is a Nova-T. I found a suggestion on linuxtv.org that the nova-t has a new version (I think chipset cx2388x since 07/2004) which wasn't supported, and suggests I search to find out whether there have been any updates. However, sites I have found with google (for mythtv cx2388x nova-t) haven't been able to answer whether it is supported yet or not :/ Does anyone |
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| [22:18:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/489270 |
| [22:18:00] | Ediehow: | i upgraded to 2.6.15 |
| [22:18:00] | Ediehow: | and mythtv is screwy with ivtv now |
| [22:18:00] | Ediehow: | display is screwed up and it quits after a few moments |
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| [22:30:00] | shriver: | Anyone ever have a problem with MythtDVD like this: |
| [22:31:00] | shriver: | when I hit '0' to rip a dvd from the rip/transcode screen, It just jumps to a screen that says 'No more jobs and nothing else to do. You could press 0 to rip a DVD" |
| [22:31:00] | shriver: | It won't rip. Any ideas? |
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| [22:38:00] | Beirdo: | have a beer and relax? |
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| [22:40:00] | Kamy: | Hi |
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| [22:41:00] | Kamy: | I've got a tuner problem with a PVR-500, anybody have time to answer some questions, offer advice where to look for answers? |
| [22:43:00] | nomin: | I'm trying to use mythtv for the first time. What is the purpose of the mysql database? |
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| [22:44:00] | Wibble-: | doesn't the DB hold the channel information downloaded, the info about what is scheduled to record, and stuff like that? |
| [22:44:00] | sphenxes: | I am planning to buy Hauppauge WinTV card and installed under Suse. where can I find the supporting drivers to the card. is there any rpm out there. |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | the db holds everything. config info, program/channel info, recording schedules, historical recording info, info about currrent;y recorded shows, etc etc |
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| [22:46:00] | nomin: | sphenxes, I have a hauppauge wintv card and it works fine on mandriva and knoppix. I'm about to see how well it works on ubuntu. |
| [22:47:00] | nomin: | actually, I haven't recorded any tv on linux yet, that's why I'm trying to get mythtv to work. |
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| [22:55:00] | Kamy: | I've got a tuner problem with a PVR-500, anybody have time to answer some questions/offer advice where to look for answers? |
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| [23:02:00] | Juski: | Wibble-: plenty of tuners are supported by linux & will work with mythtv. just have to have a look at the v4l & ivtv pages to see that |
| [23:03:00] | Juski: | Kamy: little tip for you – just ask away... you have to be quite annoying to be chastised in this channel ;-) |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | but it does happen sometimes |
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| [23:09:00] | Juski: | /sleep |
| [23:09:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [23:10:00] | Kamy: | Juski: alraight thanx ;) |
| [23:11:00] | Kamy: | My pvr-500 works just fine on 1:tuner0 but 2:tuner0 is stuck on channel 4 and won't change channel |
| [23:12:00] | Kamy: | my vfd also won't display chan/program info when 2:tuner0 has focus |
| [23:13:00] | laga: | hi :) |
| [23:14:00] | Kamy: | I set it up using the howto on http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=PVR500DualTuner |
| [23:16:00] | Kamy: | Can I use the same connections source for dev/video0 for dev/video1 |
| [23:16:00] | Kamy: | I'm using Zap2it |
| [23:16:00] | laga: | yep |
| [23:18:00] | Kamy: | hmmmm, I thought it might be that because when 2:tuner0 has focus there is no program guide info and my vfd doesn't display channel info |
| [23:20:00] | Kamy: | any suggestions where to look |
| [23:21:00] | laga: | nope, sorry. are you sure that /dev/video1 has a input source set up? |
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| [23:22:00] | Kamy: | on the pvr-500 doesn't it share the same coax input (dual tuners on one card) |
| [23:24:00] | laga: | was that a question? |
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| [23:25:00] | Kamy: | lol I guess it was |
| [23:25:00] | laga: | well, i have no clue :) |
| [23:26:00] | Kamy: | the pvr-500 has 2 tuners on the one pci card, I believe it can use the coax for both tuners or you can use separate inputs for other set ups |
| [23:27:00] | laga: | duh. sorry. you should find someone who owns a pvr 500 :) |
| [23:27:00] | dasOp: | isnt the 500 just treated as having 2 150's? |
| [23:27:00] | dasOp: | (in linux atleast) |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | AFAIK, yes |
| [23:28:00] | laga: | heya Beirdo |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | hey |
| [23:28:00] | laga: | Beirdo: sup? |
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| [23:28:00] | cosmo_: | anyone successfully running a frontend on a pII 333mhz? |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | still at work, babying some mail relay servers |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | friggin machines |
| [23:29:00] | laga: | Beirdo: awwww, cute :) |
| [23:29:00] | Kamy: | Yes it is and I think it's actually set up properly in that respect |
| [23:29:00] | znoG: | hi guys, looking for recommendations on a capture card that is well-supported by MythTV ... |
| [23:29:00] | cosmo_: | Id run it on my kt7 1.1ghz machine, but evidently this old thing doesn't like the geforce card with svideo out I bought for it |
| [23:29:00] | Kamy: | Try the pvr-500 :) |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | stupid dictionary attacks on a customer... their server went down last week |
| [23:29:00] | Kamy: | and when you get it working tell me how you did it :) |
| [23:29:00] | laga: | cosmo_: wow, that's a slow cpu. should work with a pvr 350 for video output or maybe with xvmc, but i doubt it... |
| [23:30:00] | laga: | znoG: something supported by ivtv (www.ivtvdriver.org) |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | they brought it up again today.. and we killed it repeatedly by sending them a total of over 100k messages we had queued |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | muhahahah |
| [23:30:00] | cosmo_: | laga, even as a frontend only? Im running the backend on my nice amd64 |
| [23:30:00] | laga: | cosmo_: yep. what kind of capture card? |
| [23:30:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you evil DoS people. ;) |
| [23:30:00] | znoG: | laga: great, thanks! |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | the frontend needs more CPU than the backend if you are using hardware capture cards like the ivtv supported ones |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | laga: we are just providing a service to them... their server died from too much traffic, they didn't tell us, so... KABOOM, here's your mail! |
| [23:32:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe. good service ;) |
| [23:33:00] | znoG: | laga: not sure if you know the answer to this question, but if I buy a WinTV card from the US, and I use it in a different country, should it work or does each country usually have a different standard? |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | we had like 8 servers hitting them with like 20 SMTP connections each blasting mail at them |
| [23:34:00] | laga: | znoG: there are three major standards: NTSC which is mostly used in the US, PAL which is quite common in europe and SECAM in france. |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | and SECAM is related to PAL |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | incestuous cousins or something |
| [23:34:00] | znoG: | laga: oh, right, I believe it's NTSC here. I was more concerned with the connectors found on the back of the card. Just wondering if they would have the same conector used here for cable TV |
| [23:34:00] | laga: | and there are substandards of each one, i think. |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm buggering off |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | today sucked |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | if the mail servers are still having troubles, they can page the on-call guy (who is not me!) |
| [23:35:00] | ** laga looks up certain words in his new "english as a second f*cking language" – it really helps me to communicate in this channel ** | |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:36:00] | Kamy: | later folks |
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| [23:37:00] | laga: | Beirdo: GF gave it to me and it's really handy. "america swear by it" ;) |
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| [23:37:00] | cosmo_: | laga, sorry, pvr 150 on the master backend |
| [23:37:00] | nomin: | why is mythtv such a pain to get running? |
| [23:38:00] | sphenxes: | can I use Hauppage Wintv card to connect to sattelite reciever and record my programs or it is only working with TV antenna. |
| [23:38:00] | laga: | cosmo_: well. unless you really know what you're doing, get a faster CPU. could save you lots of trouble. |
| [23:38:00] | dasOp: | if your satelite reciever sends out standard coax, composite or svideo you should be able to use it |
| [23:38:00] | laga: | nomin: ;) |
| [23:38:00] | dasOp: | but you may not be able to switch channels via mythtv |
| [23:39:00] | laga: | well, you could fix that with an irblaster, dasOp. |
| [23:39:00] | sphenxes: | dasOp, thanks |
| [23:39:00] | dasOp: | yeah, correct |
| [23:40:00] | dasOp: | some tvcards even come with the tools to fix that |
| [23:40:00] | dasOp: | or you could get a card to act as your reciever, depending on what standard is being used |
| [23:41:00] | dasOp: | friend of mine uses a dvb-s card with no problem |
| [23:41:00] | cosmo_: | laga, yeah. I had intended on using my old ghz machine, but this mobo refuses to post with the new geforce card I bought to use as a tvout. I might have to just invest in a scan converter |
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| [23:41:00] | znoG: | PVR-150MCE looks like the card I'll be buying |
| [23:41:00] | Guyfromhe: | i |
| [23:41:00] | Guyfromhe: | i'm probably going to buy one of those this weekend |
| [23:41:00] | znoG: | cheaper than buying a TV! |
| [23:41:00] | Guyfromhe: | i want dual tuners |
| [23:42:00] | znoG: | problem is international shipping, eBay sellers charge a lot for shipping |
| [23:42:00] | Guyfromhe: | buy it at bestbuy |
| [23:42:00] | znoG: | i'm sure they could stick it in a padded envelope and ship normally |
| [23:42:00] | Guyfromhe: | or are you out of NA? |
| [23:42:00] | znoG: | NA? |
| [23:42:00] | znoG: | oh |
| [23:42:00] | Guyfromhe: | north american |
| [23:42:00] | Guyfromhe: | -n |
| [23:42:00] | znoG: | i'm in south america |
| [23:42:00] | Guyfromhe: | don't you know anyone in north america that can send you one? |
| [23:43:00] | znoG: | actually, I do! |
| [23:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | then get them to send you one |
| [23:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | and your problem of overpriced shiping is resolve |
| [23:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | d |
| [23:43:00] | znoG: | :) |
| [23:43:00] | znoG: | sounds like an idea |
| [23:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | all you have to do is smuggle it through customs |
| [23:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | i tried that |
| [23:43:00] | Guyfromhe: | but it didn't work |
| [23:44:00] | znoG: | do they just bounce it back ? |
| [23:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | I still had to pay $50 tax on the damn thing |
| [23:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | no |
| [23:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | they charge you tax |
| [23:44:00] | znoG: | if I stick it in a padded envelope, they open it? |
| [23:44:00] | znoG: | i just had 2 x mp3 players sent from HK and didn't pay tax |
| [23:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | if you lie about what it is they might get mad |
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| [23:44:00] | znoG: | they put "phone accesory" on the envelope and it got through |
| [23:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | you could probably get away with putting a lower value than what it's worth if you want |
| [23:44:00] | Guyfromhe: | but then you can't insure it |
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| [23:45:00] | dasOp: | label it as a gift :P |
| [23:45:00] | Guyfromhe: | tried that |
| [23:45:00] | Guyfromhe: | I had someone lable my pvr 350 as a gift and even write a merry xmas message on the box in red and green markers and they still taxed me, those fuckers |
| [23:46:00] | znoG: | haha |
| [23:46:00] | dasOp: | haha |
| [23:46:00] | znoG: | where do you live guy? |
| [23:46:00] | Guyfromhe: | canada |
| [23:46:00] | znoG: | i'm in argentina, i think it's a lot easier to smuggle something through here than in Canada :) |
| [23:46:00] | Guyfromhe: | prolly |
| [23:46:00] | Guyfromhe: | i still got a pvr350 in the end |
| [23:46:00] | znoG: | even if I pay tax, still cheaper than buying it here |
| [23:46:00] | Guyfromhe: | it just ended up costing me $300 instead of $200 |
| [23:46:00] | laga: | GF managed to get cuban cigars to the US. when her mom send her some t-shirts backj, she had to pay tax. quite stupid, isn't it? |
| [23:47:00] | znoG: | haha |
| [23:47:00] | Guyfromhe: | heh |
| [23:47:00] | laga: | Guyfromhe: why didn't you just buy in canada? |
| [23:47:00] | Guyfromhe: | cause it was $300 in canada |
| [23:47:00] | laga: | oh. hehehe. :) |
| [23:47:00] | Guyfromhe: | and I found it online for $200 |
| [23:47:00] | znoG: | is the media center remote for the PVR-150 actually functional if used with MythTV? |
| [23:47:00] | Guyfromhe: | and they wouldn't ship to canada |
| [23:47:00] | znoG: | Guyfromhe: still cheaper in the end to get it sent with customs tax? |
| [23:47:00] | Guyfromhe: | i know the remote for the 350 works with myth |
| [23:48:00] | Guyfromhe: | it ended up costing me the same |
| [23:48:00] | Guyfromhe: | I couldn't buy that card in town either |
| [23:48:00] | Guyfromhe: | after I paid for shipping and the card and tax it cost me the same as it would be to buy it from a canadian online retailer after tax and shipping |
| [23:48:00] | Guyfromhe: | if I would have got away with my smuggle I could have saved about $75 or so |
| [23:49:00] | Guyfromhe: | it's a great card though, it's worth the money |
| [23:49:00] | Guyfromhe: | i'm running it on a lowend box (p3 500) so I can't do software anything |
| [23:50:00] | znoG: | the 350 hey |
| [23:50:00] | znoG: | i gotta find the differences between the models |
| [23:50:00] | znoG: | i just want it to have remote control, and the usual stuff :) |
| [23:51:00] | Guyfromhe: | 350 has hardware encoder and decoder onboard |
| [23:51:00] | Guyfromhe: | 150 is just an encoder but same hardware as the 350 |
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| [23:52:00] | Guyfromhe: | and I think the 150 comes with an ir blaster as well as reciever |
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| [23:52:00] | Guyfromhe: | and theres another model that has dual tuners |
| [23:52:00] | dasOp: | 500 |
| [23:52:00] | dasOp: | basically the 350 does radio and hw decoding |
| [23:53:00] | Guyfromhe: | just got a nice 300 gig drive, switched from knopmyth 0.16 to a fresh install of fc4 with the latest myth |
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| [23:53:00] | Guyfromhe: | 300 gig drives are rediculously cheap now |
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| [23:54:00] | Guyfromhe: | i was suprised how smooth my install went, my first install with knopmyth took like half a month to get everything working |
| [23:55:00] | Delemas: | yaay I finally got ivtv 0.5.x to cooperate with mythtv running 2.6.15 kernel. FYI I had to use this patch: http://webcon.ca/~rhardy/patches/ivtv-0.5x-fixes.patch |
| [23:58:00] | znoG: | Guyfromhe: so if I have a fast enough box, I can go the 150 and let it do software encoding.. yes? |
| [23:59:00] | Guyfromhe: | the 150 does hardware encoding |
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| [23:59:00] | Guyfromhe: | it just doesn't have a hardware decoder |
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| [23:59:00] | Guyfromhe: | so if your box can deal with decoding mpeg in realtime and you already have something for tv out, then a 150 is fine |
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| [23:59:00] | Guyfromhe: | mine won't even play mepg full screen without chopping up |
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