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Saturday, December 31st, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] Kelerion: got it
[00:00:00] _willcooke_: mods-enabled?
[00:00:00] Kelerion: needed to symlink from mods-available to mod-enabled
[00:00:00] _willcooke_: :)
[00:00:00] Kelerion: seem to remember that working fine a couple of days ago
[00:01:00] Kelerion: I must have done something different then
[00:01:00] _willcooke_: dunno, i played with apache2 for a couple of days, then shit myself and ran home to apache1
[00:02:00] Kelerion: I wish.. I use apache1 on my webservers.. and I *know* it! lol
[00:02:00] _willcooke_: hmmm, dvb-t scanning is still broken I see!
[00:03:00] ** _willcooke_ wishes he knew c **
[00:03:00] Kelerion: me too.. never learnt it.. went with VB..
[00:03:00] ** Juski is back, but this time with a glass of Jack Daniels **
[00:04:00] _willcooke_: GWF
[00:04:00] Kelerion: aint hindsight wonderful
[00:04:00] Juski: depends whose hind it is
[00:04:00] Kelerion: Juski! Cheers! JD here too!
[00:04:00] Juski: cheers!
[00:04:00] _willcooke_: :) I only do python, too lazy to learn anything new now
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[00:04:00] ** _willcooke_ cracks open a now defrosted Grolsh **
[00:05:00] Juski: that hipflask I got for xmas was a stroke of genius
[00:05:00] Kelerion: am running out of JD though.. only a couple of glasses left.. gonna have to go back to stella in an hour..
[00:05:00] Juski: night-mare!
[00:05:00] Kelerion: you managed to defrost them will? you left them outside right? lol
[00:06:00] ** Kelerion tries to remember what I had to do to get mythweb svn to work last time **
[00:06:00] _willcooke_: yeah, it's been pissing down all day, quite warm tho
[00:06:00] _willcooke_: kelerion, ooo, when you remeber write some instructions for me!
[00:07:00] Kelerion: set db_env passwd from default – *check*
[00:07:00] _willcooke_: BUG! Just added a second back end, and it's deleted the dvb card from my front end!
[00:07:00] Juski: nice
[00:07:00] Kelerion: enable mod_rewrite by symlinking – *check*
[00:07:00] jono: baback
[00:07:00] _willcooke_: jono, got a drink?
[00:07:00] Juski: wb mr jono
[00:07:00] jono: _willcooke_, nope, I wish I had
[00:07:00] ** Juski passes jono the bottle of JD **
[00:07:00] jono: in bed now
[00:07:00] _willcooke_: wuss
[00:07:00] jono: Juski, :)
[00:08:00] jono: heh
[00:08:00] jono: you having a beer or 10?
[00:08:00] _willcooke_: only had 3 tonight!
[00:08:00] corpix64: 3rd here, btw
[00:08:00] _willcooke_: :) Yay!
[00:08:00] Juski: half a bottle each of wine & JD
[00:08:00] xris: more mythweb updates and bug fixes in svn for those who want 'em
[00:08:00] _willcooke_: It's like an AA meeting in here, erm, I expect
[00:08:00] corpix64: heh
[00:09:00] ** laga is at his second **
[00:09:00] jono: my new kernel seems to stop gnome loading
[00:09:00] jono: not sure why
[00:09:00] ** corpix64 rolls up things **
[00:09:00] _willcooke_: nice
[00:09:00] Juski: maybe it's developed a liking for KDE
[00:09:00] jono: it starts and then I a split second of the ubuntu login sound and then it stops
[00:09:00] Kelerion: I bet php5 is the only one that works too.. *checking*
[00:09:00] jono: heh
[00:09:00] _willcooke_: corpix64, like dead bodies in carpets?
[00:10:00] corpix64: _willcooke_: damn, man, wat ?
[00:10:00] corpix64: ;)
[00:10:00] xris: Kelerion: huh?
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[00:10:00] _willcooke_: That's what you do with dead bodies, roll them up in carpet and throw them off a cliff.
[00:10:00] Juski: and they say us Brits drink too much
[00:10:00] laga: Juski: certainly not true if you can still type.
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[00:10:00] corpix64: _willcooke_: watching "goodfellas" right no, dont ya ?
[00:10:00] corpix64: heh
[00:11:00] _willcooke_: :)
[00:11:00] Juski: laga: considering schpeech recognishying
[00:11:00] _willcooke_: AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Right, so x-chat..... you type the start of a username and then hit tab and it fills the rest in. WHY HAS NOBODY TOLD ME THIS BEFORE!
[00:11:00] laga: Juski: wood nut work well
[00:12:00] awstott: mirc does the same thing :P
[00:12:00] Kelerion: you mean autocomplete?
[00:12:00] ** Kelerion grins **
[00:12:00] awstott: bitchx might even do it
[00:12:00] Kelerion: yup.. mirc has always done it too
[00:12:00] laga: irssi does it as well.
[00:12:00] _willcooke_: RTFM I guess!
[00:12:00] awstott: lol
[00:12:00] ** Kelerion watches Juski explode **
[00:13:00] corpix64: brb ;)
[00:14:00] jono: hmmm no idea why this kernel is fooked
[00:14:00] _willcooke_: jono, you go for a ubuntu patched one or a vanilla
[00:15:00] jono: vanilla, there is no patched ubuntu 2.6.14
[00:15:00] _willcooke_: crunchy!
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[00:15:00] jono: yep
[00:16:00] _willcooke_: whats the deal then, just X wont start?
[00:16:00] Kelerion: bingo – made new mythweb work
[00:16:00] jono: well, X starts but it hangs
[00:16:00] jono: Kelerion, new mythweb?
[00:16:00] Kelerion: from svn
[00:16:00] _willcooke_: Kelerion, sweet, I'll be pestering you soon then!
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[00:16:00] jono: the system doesnt hang itself, but X goes nowhere
[00:16:00] xris: Kelerion: check it out again, I've been fixing bugs all day
[00:17:00] Kelerion: xris: *nice* front screen with the roll-overs
[00:17:00] _willcooke_: jono, whats the log got to say?
[00:17:00] laga: yep, the front screen rocks
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[00:18:00] Kelerion: ahh crap.. it broke
[00:18:00] psofa: is anyone here familiar with vlc?
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[00:18:00] xris: Kelerion: thanks.. I still need to redo the toolbar at some point
[00:18:00] Kelerion: xris.. can I msg ya?
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[00:19:00] laga: wow, lots of commits. time for a svn up
[00:19:00] Kelerion: or just let me know when best to re-checkout
[00:19:00] jono: http://pastebin.ca/35337 – thats the last bit
[00:19:00] xris: Kelerion: sure.. no idea why people always ask that.. worst case, I ignore you. heh
[00:20:00] jono: Kelerion, post a screenshot will you :)
[00:21:00] Kelerion: xris.. still polite to ask..
[00:21:00] Kelerion: jono.. okies.. lemme install a screenshot app
[00:21:00] jono: _willcooke_, ahhhh looks like LCDproc may be hanging it
[00:22:00] jono: although
[00:22:00] jono: hrm
[00:23:00] jono: http://pastebin.ca/35338 <---- thats my syslog
[00:23:00] xris: ok, Kelerion found a bug in a mythweb commit from earlier today. if you just updated mythweb, do so again.
[00:23:00] laga: xris: wow. i did an svn up and get this now: http://pastebin.ca/35339 <- my mythtv is still rev8300, in case it matters.
[00:23:00] jono: xris, so you hack on mythweb ?
[00:24:00] Kelerion: I found a bug??? I just reported an error!! I ain't technical enough to report bugs!! lol
[00:24:00] xris: jono: hack sometimes.. maintain the project, yes
[00:24:00] laga: yay, here we go. thanks xris :)
[00:24:00] laga: and Kelerion, of course :)
[00:24:00] jono: xris, cool
[00:24:00] jono: xris, is there auth in the new version to protect people changing settings?
[00:25:00] xris: no
[00:25:00] xris: can't require auth
[00:25:00] xris: though I may do so for certain settings files
[00:25:00] laga: wow, that's weird. i set it to record all simpsons, but it looks like it won't do so. probably because i'm out on disk space. i have no "upcoming recordings".
[00:26:00] xris: oops
[00:26:00] xris: back to baking bread for awhile.
[00:26:00] jono: xris, its a massive security problem, mainly for letting family members get in a poke at things
[00:26:00] jono: I want to protect the settings from my other half
[00:26:00] jono: why not just have a .htaccess file somewhere?
[00:27:00] Kelerion: can I post a screenshot on pastebin? or use my own server?
[00:27:00] jono: Kelerion, best using your own server
[00:27:00] Kelerion: okies.. one min
[00:27:00] jono: are there any screenies or videos of the opengl stuff in SVN?
[00:27:00] _willcooke_: yay! 3 tuners!
[00:28:00] _willcooke_: kelerion, imageshack
[00:28:00] laga: jono: the "opengl stuff" won't be integrated in 0.19, it's scheduled for 0.20 now. if you want a preview, compile mythtv/programs/mythuitest/
[00:29:00] laga: i honestly don't get it. i've just made another schedule with the exact same settings as the old "the simpsons" one. now it shows me the upcoming recordings. weird!
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[00:30:00] _willcooke_: OK, I've got a master backend with 1 dvb-t card, which is also the main frontend, and I've got a slave backend with 2 dvb-t cards and no frontend. Can I tell the main frontend to always use it's local dvb-t card for live tv and use the other 2 cards for mainly recording stuff?
[00:30:00] laga: here we go. i entered the scheduled recording in mythweb and hit "save". this looks broken tome.
[00:31:00] jono: _willcooke_, do you use one arial with that lot?
[00:31:00] _willcooke_: jono, heh! 3 aerials!
[00:31:00] jono: 3 on your roof?!
[00:31:00] _willcooke_: The loft looks like the cia are renting it
[00:32:00] laga: mythbackend --resched fixed everything. weird.
[00:32:00] Kelerion: jono: http://www.8010.co.uk/myth-ss/mythweb-frontend.jpg
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[00:34:00] jono: Kelerion, cool :)
[00:35:00] Kelerion: xris.. is there a way to get back to frontpage without hitting <- in browser?
[00:37:00] jono: xris, is there rss support so I could do a search for something and it will update an RSS feed?
[00:38:00] Kelerion: jono.. just listing to christmas show.. you need to learn a new acronym
[00:39:00] jono: Kelerion, new acronym?
[00:39:00] Kelerion: WAF
[00:39:00] jono: whistle and flute?
[00:39:00] Kelerion: wife approval factor
[00:39:00] jono: heh
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[00:39:00] Kelerion: especially with myth in the livingroom.. lol
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[00:40:00] _willcooke_: :)
[00:40:00] Kelerion: there was something on the mailing list months ago.. lets see if I can find it
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[00:43:00] _willcooke_: anyone else noticed dvd rip gives a file with really bad lip sync?
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[00:45:00] psofa: anyone that knows where's vlc's osd menu?
[00:46:00] ** Juski is done exploding **
[00:46:00] Juski: _willcooke_: you should know that those spaghetti western DVDs don't come with lipsync already ;)
[00:47:00] ** _willcooke_ 's secret is out! :) **
[00:50:00] _willcooke_: heh the freenode-newyears is filling up quick
[00:50:00] Kelerion: found it.. damn that took some finding!
[00:50:00] Kelerion: WAF = ease_of_use * hrs_of_uptime + bells_and_whistles -
[00:50:00] Kelerion: times_the_darn_thing_goes_down * 1000/times_I_do_dishes_per_week
[00:51:00] Juski: I'll be in #living-room this time tomorrow
[00:51:00] Kelerion: or...
[00:51:00] Kelerion: WAF = ease_of_use * hrs_of_uptime + bells_and_whistles
[00:51:00] Kelerion: - -times_the_darn_thing_goes_down * 1000/times_I_do_dishes_per_week +
[00:51:00] Kelerion: In_laws_OOH_AAAH/number_of_in_law_visits_per_month
[00:51:00] Juski: that's on the real_life server ;-)
[00:52:00] Juski: Kelerion: get some inlaws who live further away then
[00:52:00] ** Juski has finished blaspheming :) **
[00:52:00] jono: 15.4GB of music
[00:52:00] jono: nicwe
[00:52:00] jono: nice
[00:52:00] Kelerion: see? now thats one of those *excellent* suggestions that would get my head chopped off before new years.. lol
[00:53:00] Juski: the equivalent of WAF in this house is.. mrs juski knows how to work mythtv but feigns ignorance when we have people round
[00:53:00] _willcooke_: :)
[00:53:00] _willcooke_: make the default the skin channels
[00:54:00] Juski: I dont subscribe to em
[00:54:00] Kelerion: yup.. sounds about right.. same in this house.. "computers? oh no! thats Craig's job.. if anything goes wrong around here we blame *him*!". lol
[00:54:00] Juski: I figure it's a waste of time doing that anyway when you can get better from bittorrent
[00:54:00] Juski: oops
[00:54:00] ** Kelerion blinks **
[00:54:00] _willcooke_: arf!
[00:54:00] Kelerion: we don't use bittorrent around here!
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[00:55:00] Juski: (so I've heard)
[00:55:00] Kelerion: except for downloading new versions of fedora of course
[00:55:00] Juski: of course
[00:55:00] Juski: more JD anyone?
[00:55:00] Kelerion: whose round is it?
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[00:57:00] reel: I just moved and updated my listings on zap2it labs' page. Then I redid the mythtvsetup so it had the new listings associated with my tuner. then I ran mythfilldatabase. it pulls the new channels but isn't getting listings. what did I miss?
[00:57:00] ** Juski got the round in **
[00:57:00] Juski: enjoy that – it'll never happen again
[00:57:00] Juski: ;-)
[00:58:00] _willcooke_: I didnt ask for Babycham
[00:59:00] Juski: lol
[00:59:00] Kelerion: lol
[00:59:00] Juski: reel: absolutely no idea unfortunately
[00:59:00] reel: i think it might be just a weirdness with zap2it. hang on
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[01:00:00] reel: they have comcast atlanta and comcast atlanta classic. trying classic
[01:00:00] ** jono writes and article... **
[01:00:00] ** _willcooke_ scratches his arse **
[01:01:00] Kelerion: ut oh.. he's writing articles again.. everyone hide
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[01:02:00] kcody: hi all... anyone had problems with the pvr-150?
[01:02:00] Juski: kcody: you got one already?
[01:02:00] kcody: yup.
[01:02:00] kcody: and i'm getting a weird flickering at the top of the screen
[01:02:00] Kelerion: Juski.. too late
[01:03:00] kcody: even with a cat>test.mpg
[01:03:00] Juski: kcody: probably a bit of the TV signal you wouldn't usually see on a TV
[01:03:00] kcody: no... i've been watching -that- for years
[01:03:00] Juski: does it look like some kind of binary code? balck & white strips?
[01:03:00] reel: no change :(
[01:03:00] kcody: it's coming a good 1/5 of the way down
[01:03:00] Juski: ah
[01:03:00] Juski: so it's not vbi stuff then
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[01:04:00] kcody: nope... i have a 3MB test file but i have no idea if dcc will work
[01:04:00] Kelerion: mythbrowser depends on kde?
[01:04:00] laga: Kelerion: yep
[01:04:00] kcody: kelerion: no, depends on the same graphics library that kde uses, 'qt'
[01:04:00] Juski: kcody: is that with a tuner input or svid/composite?
[01:05:00] kcody: composite
[01:05:00] kcody: that i was just watching moments ago on the aiw radeon
[01:05:00] Kelerion: root@livingroom:~/mythtv-svn/mythplugins# ./configure
[01:05:00] Kelerion: Disabling MythBrowser due to missing KDE development packages.
[01:05:00] Juski: kcody: at a puch (long shot) you've got the wrong vid standard maybe
[01:05:00] kcody: oh, the web browser... might
[01:05:00] kcody: sorry kelerion
[01:05:00] Juski: Kelerion: you need the KDE libs, man
[01:06:00] kcody: sux for us gnome folks ;) but then i'm not planning to deploy a browser
[01:06:00] Kelerion: I don't use the browser.. so now point installing it
[01:06:00] Kelerion: just thought that was a strange dep
[01:06:00] Juski: stinks anyway, web browsing on TV
[01:06:00] Kelerion: yup
[01:06:00] _willcooke_: not with rgb it don't!
[01:06:00] Juski: scroll down.. scroll down.. scroll down some more...
[01:07:00] kcody: just checked ivtv, it is set for NTSC
[01:07:00] reel: apparently there is some recent problem that came up with zap2it according to the mailing list
[01:07:00] Juski: not so much that, will, it's the size of the screen compared to webpages
[01:07:00] Kelerion: "Transcode support will not be included in MythDVD" and "VCD support will not be included in MythDVD" but it ain't telling me why
[01:07:00] kcody: probably ffmpeg, kelerion
[01:07:00] Juski: Kelerion: you is missing the transcode libraries
[01:07:00] laga: no, not ffmpeg.
[01:08:00] laga: mtd depends on transcode
[01:08:00] Juski: reel: hope it's sorted out soon then
[01:09:00] reel: me too :( i can't record anything now that i moved because i can't see what is on
[01:09:00] Juski: maybe your subs expired or something
[01:09:00] Kelerion: I seem to remember configure telling you about those deps.. but I could be mistaken
[01:09:00] kcody: hmm, got this in the kernel log:
[01:09:00] kcody: ivtv0 warning: Failed api call 0x00000015 with result 0xfffffff0
[01:09:00] kcody: ivtv0 warning: DEC: couldn't read clock
[01:09:00] reel: Juski: nope i was just on labs. it is fine
[01:09:00] Juski: kcody: forgot to load a module?
[01:09:00] kcody: don't think so
[01:09:00] kcody: that would have refused to load the ivtv driver altogether
[01:09:00] reel: their listings are broken or overwhelmed or something
[01:09:00] xris: Kelerion: svn up your mythweb and look for that backend logs thing now
[01:10:00] kcody: could it be dated firmware? i'm using what came with the ivtv package.
[01:10:00] Juski: reel: or they changed the format to scupper mythtv users :-/
[01:10:00] Kelerion: xris.. it disappeared from the top menu
[01:11:00] xris: perfect
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[01:11:00] xris: since you don't have database-based logging enabled in the backend
[01:11:00] Kelerion: ahh.. .sneeky bugger.. one sec.. lol
[01:11:00] reel: Juski: i doubt they would do that
[01:11:00] reel: they love us
[01:12:00] xris: Kelerion: music, video and weather will now disappear if you don't have them configured, too
[01:13:00] Kelerion: database logging is on the frontend
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[01:13:00] Kelerion: and now it's appeared again :)
[01:13:00] Kelerion: and it's empty.. but it's probably to logged anything
[01:13:00] Kelerion: got it.. restarted backend and it appeared in the log.. nice one!
[01:14:00] _willcooke_: bed time, laters all. Happy new year......
[01:14:00] Kelerion: happy new years.. have a drink on me!
[01:14:00] Juski: right.. think it's time fo bedski... busy day of theme mangling & baking (!) tomorrow
[01:14:00] kcody: thanks for all the help juski
[01:14:00] Juski: and a _happy new year_ to you all
[01:14:00] Kelerion: looking forward to it Juski :)
[01:14:00] Kelerion: have fun :)
[01:15:00] Juski: what help, kcody? ;) np anyway
[01:15:00] Juski: seriously though – don'tdo anything I'd do ;-)
[01:15:00] Juski: nighty night
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[01:15:00] SqWaw`: ivtv: version magic '2.6.14-gentoo-r5 SMP preempt PENTIUM gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.14-gentoo-r5 SMP preempt PENTIUM gcc-3.3'
[01:15:00] laga: SqWaw`: thou shalt not irc as root
[01:15:00] Juski: SqWaw: a simple 'hello' would suffice ;)
[01:16:00] Kelerion: xris.. does mythweb only work in php5?
[01:16:00] Juski: night
[01:16:00] laga: SqWaw`: and you compiled your ivtv with the wrong compiler. fiddle with gcc-config
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[01:16:00] SqWaw`: laga i was logged in as root because im fixing this comp :)
[01:16:00] laga: SqWaw`: man su, man sudo
[01:16:00] SqWaw`: Juski hello. or goodbye
[01:16:00] Kelerion: it started working with the "AllowOveride All" when I upgraded.. but that was probably because I didn't have permissions set in php4 right.. right?
[01:17:00] xris: Kelerion: no. in fact, it probably works better in 4
[01:17:00] xris: since I don't develop on 5 yet
[01:17:00] SqWaw`: laga: i've done gcc-config -f 1, which is gcc-3.3.6
[01:17:00] Kelerion: with "AllowOveride All" in php4 I was was a "Server Error" in the browser.. so I was probably screwing something else up
[01:18:00] laga: SqWaw`: well, try and emerge ivtv again.
[01:18:00] SqWaw`: im building from src because portage doesnt have the 0.4.1 stable
[01:19:00] laga: check gcc -v then
[01:19:00] Kelerion: xris.. just so you know.. just had a shot through all the functions in mythweb I could find .. in php5 and they seem to work nicely
[01:19:00] Arkkis: hey, if I try to set an show to be recorded any time on a certain channel, it's also recorded on other channels it appears on, what to do?
[01:20:00] Kelerion: this is under ubuntu btw
[01:20:00] SqWaw`: gcc version 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6, ssp-3.3.6–1.0, pie-0.7.0)
[01:20:00] SqWaw`: heh...
[01:20:00] kcody: float this one again: anyone seen partial frame dropouts on a wintv pvr-150?
[01:20:00] Kelerion: sign of good development.. so nice one
[01:21:00] laga: kcody: your bitrate is probably too low
[01:21:00] kcody: how do i change that
[01:21:00] laga: kcody: in mythfrontend under recording profiles
[01:21:00] Kelerion: xris.. question..
[01:21:00] laga: but it's nice that you took the time and read the docs and configured mythtv :)
[01:21:00] kcody: how would that affect cat /dev/video>test.mpg tests?
[01:21:00] Kelerion: those icons just disappeared as you said they would
[01:22:00] kcody: laga: same problem whether in mythtv or direct from the capture device.
[01:22:00] Kelerion: is that a good idea when most people would run, for example, mythweb on the backend but mythmusic on the frontend?
[01:22:00] laga: kcody: so? set the bitrate with ivtvctl then
[01:22:00] kcody: ok so it is card-related and not recording-related... brb
[01:23:00] SqWaw`: laga: see the gcc ver ^?
[01:24:00] Kelerion: actually.. yes I suppose it is.. if I wanted to control mythmusic from mythweb I'd need to install mythweb on a frontend
[01:24:00] Kelerion: where the actual settings are
[01:24:00] laga: SqWaw`: yeah. well, it should work fine then.
[01:24:00] kcody: laga: what's a reasonable bitrate?
[01:24:00] SqWaw`: i dont know what to do then....
[01:25:00] Kelerion: or.. would it make more sense to run one single mythweb with options (dropdown) for the frontends based on hostname? seeing as those are stored in the db
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[01:26:00] Kelerion: seems strange running multiple mythwebs for one db
[01:26:00] laga: kcody: i use 4500–6000 i think, but if you get a lot of noise, it should be even higher since ivtv (or the card) will drop frames if it can't compress things properly – which can be the case with a noisy signal
[01:26:00] jcap: so I have everything working with backend frontend system working... except
[01:26:00] jcap: my frontend segmentation faults on loading the episode guide
[01:26:00] xris: Kelerion: mythweb can't control mythmusic (yet)
[01:26:00] jcap: anyone seen this?
[01:26:00] kcody: whohoo. nevermind – the ivtv driver defaults work, it's the mythtv setting screwing it up... so just change whatever's in the mythconverg database.
[01:26:00] Kelerion: ok.. mythvideo for example
[01:26:00] SqWaw`: laga: thanks, not sure what happened but it works
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[01:27:00] xris: Kelerion: same thing
[01:27:00] xris: can read the data (and it'll display separately for each host), but can't do any controlling
[01:27:00] Kelerion: yesterday and today.. for example.. I split my frontend from my backend.. there's no point having mythvideo or mythmusic installed on my backend
[01:28:00] Kelerion: I've only installed mythbackend on my backend
[01:28:00] Kelerion: and everything else on the frontends
[01:29:00] xris: Kelerion: shouldn't matter. data's still the same. stored per-host.
[01:30:00] xris: should be browseable in mythweb per-host... but dunno. I don't really use either plugin, and the video and music stuff in mythweb is crap and needs to be rewritten
[01:32:00] Kelerion: I can't think of a way in php of saying "is mythmusic installed on host xxx"
[01:32:00] Kelerion: but you wouldn't need to.. right? you'd just display settings of that host from the db
[01:33:00] Kelerion: am thinking of future development brw
[01:33:00] Kelerion: btw
[01:35:00] xris: w00t. only 8 more mythweb tickets
[01:35:00] Kelerion: and if you have mythmusic install on FrontEndXXX mounting to a mounted nfs of musicserver:/music then the approach of hiding icons wouldn't work if you wanted a central control of them would it?
[01:35:00] xris: Kelerion: mythmusic's info is stored per-host in the database
[01:36:00] Kelerion: ok.. so you'd need a dropdown to select hostnames
[01:36:00] xris: for control... you need to use mfd/mfe, in which case the master backend will know which hosts are running mythmusic, etc.
[01:36:00] jcap: if I removed the backend from a formerly both backend and frontend computer, where might I find some stale settings laying around?
[01:37:00] jcap: I've looked in /usr/[local/]share/mythtv
[01:37:00] jcap: but found nothing useufl
[01:37:00] jcap: I think the EpGuide is segfaulting because of some left over settings
[01:37:00] jcap: everything else is working fine
[01:39:00] jcap: happens even when I go to "schedule recordings"
[01:39:00] jcap: even outside of live tv
[01:40:00] kcody: ok, new bonehead question: how do i set up a 'static' video source, like "manually controlled VCR"
[01:41:00] kcody: idea being to leave it permanently connected to the composite input, and assosciate the tuner with the Analog Cable video source
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[01:42:00] mellofone: does anyone have a list of debian apt sources for Mythtv?
[01:42:00] jcap: mellofone, I was looking last night in google
[01:42:00] jcap: found some
[01:42:00] jcap: 1 set was outdated
[01:42:00] jcap: but someone else it seems took them over
[01:42:00] mellofone: I've been trying to install the mythtv-xbox frontend, and it fails because it still references http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian
[01:42:00] jcap: yeah
[01:43:00] jcap: that's the expired set I saw
[01:43:00] mellofone: yeah
[01:43:00] mellofone: so there are no other sources?
[01:43:00] jcap: I dunno exactly, but I thought i found replacment sets
[01:43:00] jcap: mentioned in the list. gossamer-threads I think
[01:43:00] jcap: not using myth on debian here, was just thinking of migrating
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[01:45:00] mellofone: I'll have to google a bit more, thanks
[01:45:00] reel: i think zap2it is suffering frm the y2k6 bug
[01:46:00] jcap: is there any word on what happens after Jan 10th?
[01:46:00] Kelerion: okies.. all good so far... BE with seperate FEs running svn
[01:47:00] Kelerion: 3xFE's running so far.. so far so good
[01:48:00] Kelerion: as long as it records reliably and plays fine.. wife won't notice.. lol
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[01:50:00] Kelerion: still getting "support will not be included in MythDVD".. must still be missing a dep
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[01:51:00] thanatoast: Excuse me, I have a few questions. Firstly; What is a prebuffering pause and any way to make them go away (1 every 1.2 seconds)
[01:52:00] Kelerion: hoping "apt-get build-dep transcode" fixes it
[01:53:00] Kelerion: xris.. am sure you have it all to plan :)
[01:55:00] kcody: does the pvr-150 require the external command line channel changing?
[01:55:00] Kelerion: okies.. that fixed the transcode deps
[01:55:00] xris: kcody: depends on what it's plugged into
[01:56:00] kcody: cable signal to the rf input
[01:56:00] corpix64: Unknown xmltv channel identifier: wdr.de
[01:56:00] corpix64: Skipping channel.
[01:56:00] corpix64: hmm, how to fix this ?
[01:57:00] corpix64: what would a "correct channel" id be ?
[01:59:00] Kelerion: okies.. heading off to bed.. g'night all! :)
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[02:00:00] kcody: err looks like a channel db problem.
[02:02:00] kcody: did i hear earlier datadirect is borked?
[02:02:00] jcap: it's working seemingly ok for me
[02:02:00] jcap: thought I'm having program guide issues
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[02:05:00] kcody: should mythfilldatabase really be going over and over and over like that?
[02:05:00] reel: kcody: it is bad for me
[02:08:00] kcody: that's more like it... mythfilldatabase ran for me
[02:08:00] kcody: although backend was down so it failed on something at the end, something about duplicates
[02:09:00] reel: i am still not getting listings unfortunately
[02:09:00] kcody: so is there any way to tell myth (or ivtv) to not display the encoded vbi data at the top of the screen?
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[02:16:00] xris: kcody: overscan?
[02:17:00] kcody: xris: basically, yes, i think
[02:18:00] corpix64: kcody: channel db problem ?
[02:18:00] kcody: corpix: no not anymore, it changes channels now
[02:19:00] corpix64: hmm, but what do you think is wrong here ?
[02:19:00] corpix64: maybe the grabber ?
[02:19:00] kcody: 3 main problems: 1) ghostly horizontal bar crawling up the screen, 2) seeing binary vbi data at the top of the screen, 3) no easy way to switch to composite to watch the vcr
[02:19:00] corpix64: i think channel_ids isnt read corrrectly
[02:20:00] xris: kcody: there's a setting in the frontend for that.. x/y offset
[02:20:00] xris: switching is easy.. C
[02:20:00] kcody: xris: any way to tell the backend to keep that out of the stream altogether?
[02:20:00] xris: you have to enable it in mythtv-setup, though
[02:20:00] xris: kcody: it's IN the stream. no way to keep it out other than to crop, which the backend doesn't do
[02:21:00] kcody: xris: how do enable switching to composite? i have to assosciate a video source to the composite capture interface, right?
[02:22:00] Nothingman: anyone here have experience with mounting their music by nfs on another machine?
[02:23:00] kcody: nothingman: yes, but not with mythtv (yet)
[02:23:00] Nothingman: kcody: not referring to myth exactly
[02:23:00] corpix64: i use nfs-shares in mythtv
[02:23:00] Nothingman: just want to get to my music
[02:23:00] Nothingman: it's been copied to a machine other than my main mythbox
[02:24:00] Nothingman: and now it's hard to access it from rhythmbox
[02:24:00] corpix64: Nothingman: set up your /etc/exports on server side
[02:24:00] xris: kcody: yeah.. then it should work
[02:24:00] Nothingman: corpix: got it mounted
[02:24:00] corpix64: myhtv user can't read ?
[02:24:00] xris: as long as mythtv knows the connection exists (and don't think you necessarily need the video source, just have it enabled), you should be able to switch to it.
[02:24:00] kcody: xris: is there a way to create a video source that doesn't have a channel list
[02:24:00] Nothingman: just kind of gets held up
[02:25:00] kcody: xris: it detects a whole bunch but only lets me switch to the one that has a video source
[02:26:00] Nothingman: rhythmbox starts loading the directory and freezes
[02:26:00] Nothingman: probably doesn't help that I tried to tab-complete an ls on the same directory at the same time
[02:26:00] corpix64: looks likes <user> isnt allowed to read
[02:26:00] corpix64: *like
[02:27:00] kcody: xris: ahh – yes – just don't give it any parameters except a name
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[02:28:00] kcody: hmm, 'C' still isn't working
[02:29:00] kcody: nevermind had to restart backend
[02:29:00] Nothingman: well, shit
[02:29:00] Nothingman: it started to work last night from my mythbox with an identical export line
[02:31:00] JeffATL: i'm kernel-compiling for mythtv under gentoo and I want to make sure that my vid i/o is covered in my config – got a pvr-150 for input and a geforce mx4000
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[02:35:00] kcody: jeff: neither has specific drivers in the kernel
[02:35:00] kcody: but you will need to make sure i2c is compiled in (right guys?)
[02:35:00] kcody: also the v4l infrastructure??
[02:36:00] JeffATL: kcody: compiled in as opposed to modules
[02:37:00] kcody: JeffATL: IIRC it can be either way. always better to compile-in infrastructures IMO
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[02:40:00] kcody: should i expect weird shit on the screens if i don't have the filter on the cable line?
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[02:42:00] kormoc: kcody, what does this filter do?
[02:42:00] phubuh: hey. I have a cheap bt878 card, tvtime works great, mythtv seems to work fine with the default channel, but when I change it, the display freezes while mythfrontend spews "NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times", and then I get a nice GUI error, and then I have to restart the backend...
[02:44:00] kcody: kormoc: notches out the digital signal data used by the set top box and broadband devices
[02:45:00] JeffATL: kcody: i agree with you in general – this is my first pvr of any sort and my first attempt with video under linux
[02:45:00] kcody: JeffATL: i've been using an All-in-Wonder Radeon for years with xawtv, i'm trying to go networked
[02:45:00] kormoc: kcody, I would say then likely you might get some interfearance, aye
[02:45:00] kcody: compiling in v4l was always necessary because years ago there were module dependency autoload issues
[02:46:00] kcody: kormoc: could it look like a hazy bar of lightness traveling upward over and over?
[02:46:00] kcody: JeffATL: i've always compiled in i2c subsystem support for hardware monitoring
[02:46:00] kcody: compiling in the support is compiling in the API – just a rule of thumb, keep all such code in the kernel
[02:46:00] kormoc: kcody, maybe. I don't get anything from my cable inet, and I don't use filters, but perhaps yours does
[02:47:00] kcody: kormoc: not present on the composite input, present on all channels using the tuner
[02:47:00] kormoc: kcody, more likely actually is it's caused by a different pci card next to the tuner
[02:48:00] kcody: kormoc: there's a free slot below and above
[02:48:00] Arkkis: hey, any suggestions how to setup this hauppauge remote to control myth ? http://computertimeco.com/ctsched/ctremote.gif
[02:48:00] kormoc: kcody, what other cards are in the box?
[02:48:00] kcody: above the above is the nic, then another free slot, then a pci mach64 that's idling in character mode without a display attached
[02:48:00] kcody: below the free slot below, is the case bottom
[02:49:00] kcody: and why wouldn't it be happening to the composite... oh, you're thinking local RFI
[02:49:00] kcody: dual 933MHz board, 133MHz bus
[02:49:00] JeffATL: So I don't need to do anything special for, as lspci tells me, "00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder"?
[02:49:00] kormoc: kcody, yeah, local RF is quite common, but unlikely on your setup
[02:50:00] JeffATL: which i assume is on the haup pvr-150
[02:50:00] kormoc: JeffATL, just install ivtv
[02:50:00] kcody: JeffATL: installing the ivtv drivers (separate package with externally built kernel mods) will handle that
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[02:50:00] kcody: JeffATL: i just got that very card working
[02:50:00] JeffATL: kormoc: kcody: thanks
[02:50:00] kcody: kormoc: that reminds me, the capture card is on a headless box
[02:51:00] JeffATL: by the way, 1GHz t-bird, 256M RAM sound OK?
[02:51:00] JeffATL: for a single encoder?
[02:51:00] kcody: JeffATL: should be -FINE- with this card, at least for capturing
[02:51:00] kcody: what's your video card?
[02:52:00] JeffATL: kcody: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
[02:52:00] kcody: btw, anyone know if the ATI radeon drivers support hardware video accel?
[02:52:00] JeffATL: VGA and s-video outputs
[02:52:00] kcody: JeffATL: should be fine on that hardware, you're accelerated from end to end
[02:52:00] kcody: JeffATL: using what right now?
[02:52:00] JeffATL: kcody: come again?
[02:52:00] kormoc: kcody, they give hardware opengl, and XV, but not XVMC
[02:52:00] kcody: JeffATL: which output is live
[02:53:00] kcody: kormoc: any reason besides idiocy on ati's part?
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[02:53:00] JeffATL: kcody: this second, only the VGA
[02:53:00] kormoc: kcody, nope, ATI doesn't really spend much time on their linux drivers.
[02:53:00] djperegrine: Often I can't exit certian plugins :O
[02:53:00] kcody: JeffATL: my advice is stick with vga
[02:53:00] djperegrine: only "hotjumps" work
[02:53:00] kcody: kormoc: don't really -need- xvmc, do i?
[02:53:00] kormoc: kcody, not really, no
[02:54:00] JeffATL: kcody: but I'm gonna want to hook this to my TV at some point, though, right?
[02:54:00] kcody: with a 3.06G/HT/533MHz
[02:54:00] kcody: JeffATL: your choice, i'd go looking for a flat panel you can drive with vga ;)
[02:54:00] JeffATL: kcody: i gots what i gots
[02:54:00] kcody: i'm using a 19" philips flat screen crt
[02:54:00] kcody: JeffATL: i hear ya there
[02:54:00] jono: right off to watch some seinfeld
[02:54:00] jono: later all
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[02:55:00] JeffATL: i'm not looking to upgrade the main house tv until this GE 31" tube set croaks
[02:55:00] kcody: i just picked up a radeon 9600 pro agp8x to replace the original all-in-wonder radeon
[02:55:00] ** xris cheers to the sound of millions of budding yeasts dying. **
[02:56:00] kcody: jeffatl: should do well enough on svideo
[02:57:00] JeffATL: ok, first crack at kernel compile completed...
[03:00:00] kcody: hmm, now what am i doing wrong:
[03:00:00] kcody: ivtv0 warning: Starting VBI after starting an encoding, seems to not work.
[03:01:00] darkdrgn2k: Any one here know anythign about LIVE DRIVE? (SB 5.1's Remote)
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[03:15:00] kormoc: DarkBeer, google might
[03:15:00] kormoc: erm
[03:15:00] kormoc: darkdrgn2k, that was to you
[03:15:00] JeffATL: what are you guys tending to use for a wm? I assume kde/gnome are unwarranted?
[03:16:00] kcody: jeffatl: i'm using gnome actually
[03:16:00] kormoc: JeffATL, I use xfce4 for all my linux installs
[03:16:00] kormoc: JeffATL, kde is a fine choice. There's not that much overhead
[03:16:00] kcody: but i'm shooting for the "true convergence system", it's meant to be a full blown workstation as well as a television
[03:17:00] kcody: which also made me favor a 19" crt monitor over a larger television
[03:17:00] kcody: an apple cinema hd display would be sweet but who's got $2500
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[03:18:00] kormoc: kcody, I just setup 19" and 2x 15" lcds for way less
[03:18:00] JeffATL: i'm mostly going for VCR replacement/improvement here
[03:18:00] kcody: two issues there: bar down the middle of the twin screen, and lousy matching to HDTV standards
[03:18:00] JeffATL: would eventually like to be able to burn stored vid to dvd, etc
[03:19:00] kcody: jeffatl: myth does that, you'll want to set up mythfrontend on a desktop with a dvd burner
[03:19:00] kormoc: kcody, nah, I have it setup like [tv][main][sub]
[03:19:00] kcody: oic
[03:19:00] kcody: surround-yourself-with-different-mental-threads approach
[03:19:00] kcody: used to do that, stresses me out now lol
[03:19:00] kormoc: kcody, my left lcd is only multimedia, middle workstation, right, irc/gaim/research stuff
[03:19:00] JeffATL: kcody: right – i've got no dvd burner on hand yet (dvd reader though)
[03:20:00] kcody: jeffatl: could try videocd, some dvd players read them
[03:20:00] JeffATL: boy, i'm glad I've got distcc going here
[03:20:00] kcody: can't wait to see how my thinkpad handles being a frontend over wireless...
[03:20:00] kcody: watch hbo out front drinking beers with everyone next summer
[03:21:00] JeffATL: speaking of which...
[03:21:00] kcody: lol
[03:21:00] JeffATL: i'm hoping to be able to use a remote to control this mythtv pvr...
[03:22:00] tanq_: yeah i need to get the mouse thing working
[03:23:00] JeffATL: this mobo does have IR I/O but i've got nothing to plug into it – the pvr-150 also came with a MS med ctr remote and a USB IR rcvr
[03:23:00] JeffATL: dunno how useful any of that's going to me
[03:24:00] tanq_: are there any problems using lircmd with lircd in myth?
[03:24:00] tanq_: JeffATL: you got model 1062
[03:24:00] tanq_: model 1045 has the ir remote
[03:24:00] tanq_: and model 1045 is $30 usd less
[03:24:00] kcody: jeffatl: i'm working on the receiver now
[03:25:00] kcody: i got the 1062 too
[03:25:00] tanq_: i had that originally..
[03:25:00] tanq_: but took it back and got the 1045
[03:25:00] kcody: all compusa stocked
[03:25:00] tanq_: i got mine at circuit city
[03:25:00] tanq_: best buy only stocks the 1062
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[03:26:00] kcody: anyone know where (in the kernel) verify_area can be found?
[03:26:00] kcody: lirc dependency, i'm building in something that needs to be a module (not serial)
[03:28:00] darkdrgn2k: im trying ot get my Sound Blaster drivers loaded but im having some trouble
[03:28:00] darkdrgn2k: modprobe snd-emu10k1 enable_ir=1 extout="0x1fff"
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[03:28:00] GlockComa: hi all
[03:28:00] GlockComa: got a quick question-
[03:29:00] GlockComa: i got mythtv set up and even got my remote control working (lirc)
[03:29:00] JeffATL: tanq_: yes, this is 1062
[03:29:00] GlockComa: but the remote control only works when i run mythtv as root
[03:29:00] darkdrgn2k: i only get ls /dev/snd/midiC0D0 not ls /dev/snd/midiC0D1 !!! any one know why
[03:29:00] GlockComa: i would like the remote to also work if i run mythtv from my user account
[03:30:00] GlockComa: why?
[03:30:00] GlockComa: err
[03:30:00] tanq_: GlockComa: add your user to the same group that owns lirc*
[03:30:00] closer: darkdrgn2k: this is a question for #linux and not #mythtv-users
[03:30:00] tanq_: well that owns /dev/lirc* and lircd process
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[03:31:00] GlockComa: so if i do "chgrp <user> /dev/lirc*" ... that should work?
[03:33:00] GlockComa: do i need to reload anything after i do that?
[03:33:00] kcody: jeffatl: the usb receiver uses driver 'mceusb2' with lirc
[03:34:00] kcody: just grepped for the vendor name and found it. i'm rebuilding now.
[03:35:00] kcody: what distro are you running, jeffatl?
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[03:35:00] JeffATL: kcody: gentoo
[03:35:00] GlockComa: ?
[03:35:00] GlockComa: still doesnt work
[03:35:00] kcody: jeffatl: good, so am i
[03:36:00] JeffATL: i think i'll start out with kde for comfort-lever purposes and maybe change it later
[03:36:00] kcody: echo "app-misc/lirc ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords ; LIRC_OPTS="--with-driver=mceusb2" emerge lirc
[03:36:00] kcody: you are using an x86, right?
[03:37:00] GlockComa: any other suggestions for my lircd permission problem?
[03:37:00] kcody: glock, give me an 'ls -l /dev/lirc*'
[03:40:00] GlockComa: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Dec 30 19:11 /dev/lirc -> lirc0
[03:40:00] GlockComa: crw-rw---- 1 root Sal 61, 0 Dec 30 19:11 /dev/lirc0
[03:40:00] GlockComa: srw-rw-rw- 1 root Sal 0 Dec 30 19:39 /dev/lircd
[03:40:00] GlockComa: oh
[03:40:00] GlockComa: lemme fix that first one
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[03:41:00] GlockComa: err.. operation not permitted
[03:41:00] GlockComa: but everyone has full access to that anyway
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[03:42:00] JeffATL: kcody: yes, iGHz tbird
[03:42:00] Beirdo: GlockComa, no they don't
[03:42:00] GlockComa: oh wait a minute
[03:42:00] Beirdo: look at what the symlink points at, at what the perms THERE are
[03:42:00] GlockComa: when i start mythtv as my regular user, i cant even change the channel with the keyboard
[03:42:00] JeffATL: kcody: ok – but that should really wait until after my reboot
[03:43:00] GlockComa: so maybe its a mythtv permission problem
[03:43:00] GlockComa: not a lircd problem
[03:44:00] GlockComa: damn
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[03:45:00] Musicman: hi?
[03:46:00] GlockComa: whats the deal?
[03:46:00] Musicman: nvm, i see a link for my ivtv problem
[03:46:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: sold a digital SLR to Ben Affleck's brother today
[03:46:00] Musicman: hauppage = no worky
[03:46:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: the guy in Ocean's 11 & Ocean's 12
[03:46:00] kcody: mythtv needs to be a memeber of the 'Sal' group, glockcoma
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[03:47:00] Musicman: but... once i download these ivtv things, what do i do?
[03:48:00] KaiForce: anyone using ivtv 0.4.1 yet?
[03:48:00] kcody: kai: yes
[03:48:00] Beirdo: hehe
[03:48:00] GlockComa: err... it is an lircd problem... =(
[03:48:00] Beirdo: Casey?
[03:48:00] GlockComa: k
[03:49:00] GlockComa: where is mythtv installed to?
[03:49:00] Beirdo: whereever you tell it to
[03:49:00] Beirdo: normally /usr/local/bin
[03:49:00] Beirdo: if you compile yourself
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[03:49:00] GlockComa: nah, wait a sec.. i CAN change the channel with the keyboard
[03:49:00] GlockComa: just not the remote
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[03:49:00] albino: What channel should I set to view directv?
[03:50:00] Musicman: i get a probe thing with ivtv i2c and error 8x10005 and it goes no further
[03:51:00] KaiForce: kcody: what card? any feedback on it?
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[03:52:00] GlockComa: grrr.. so frustrating
[03:52:00] KaiForce: albino: i set to 3 with my tuners
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[03:54:00] Musicman: "starting probe for adapter ivtv i2c driver... (8x10005)"
[03:54:00] Musicman: it freezes there
[03:54:00] Musicman: and I have Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 500 MCE White box PCI Interface Tuner Card
[03:55:00] Musicman: after a reboot, its never worked
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[03:58:00] GlockComa: so, running 'irw' as my regular user account works- the remote button presses are detected
[03:59:00] GlockComa: so maybe its the way that mythtv and lirc are linked?
[03:59:00] albino: KaiForce: Yeah, I tried that and it isn't working. I thought I was finally going to see tv.
[04:00:00] kcody: kcody: wintv pvr-150, and it's been solid so far
[04:00:00] kcody: erro that's to kaiforce lol
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[04:01:00] KaiForce: kcody: thanks, i'm going to give it a shot, having some issues with 0.4.0
[04:02:00] KaiForce: albino: can you capture by cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg?
[04:02:00] Musicman: anyone know about knopmyth?
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[04:08:00] kcody: kaiforce: yes
[04:08:00] kcody: kaiforce: are you getting fucked up video at the top? like flashing black boxes?
[04:08:00] KaiForce: occasional corrupt 'frames' of video
[04:08:00] kcody: btw all, the mceusb2 driver -does- register for the wintv pvr-150 1062
[04:08:00] kcody: once you get the fucker to build
[04:09:00] kcody: kaiforce: i found the default mythtv bitrate too low
[04:09:00] KaiForce: and also after a warm boot the 250s don't work. must cold start
[04:09:00] kcody: 8000/9600 is where i set it, and maxed the resolution
[04:09:00] kcody: kaiforce: that sounds like a bug
[04:09:00] KaiForce: i'm running 8500/9500
[04:09:00] KaiForce: 640x480
[04:14:00] kcody: not the same problem i had then
[04:15:00] GlockComa: hrmmm.. maybe i need to restart
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[04:16:00] kcody: just made a patch to the lirc ebuilds so 0.7.2 builds with mceusb2 support, who needs it
[04:17:00] kcody: that's for the wintv pvr-150 1061 model (media center, w/usb ir receiver)
[04:17:00] Beirdo: ahhh, much better, buzzed my head again
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[04:21:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: yeah Casey Affleck
[04:21:00] Musicman: I have knopmyth and havent gotten it to boot completely, I know that I need to update the ivtv drivers but am not sure how to burn them
[04:21:00] Beirdo: is he a punk kid in real life? ;)
[04:21:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:22:00] Beirdo: hmmm, wonder what I should do tonight
[04:23:00] Beirdo: maybe some coding?
[04:23:00] Beirdo: maybe some rum?
[04:23:00] redline-: rum and coding!
[04:23:00] Beirdo: and TV of course
[04:23:00] Beirdo: my fiancee went to bed, she's tired
[04:24:00] Beirdo: and I had a 2h nap earlier in the evening
[04:24:00] redline-: nice
[04:24:00] Beirdo: so watching some Dead Like Me
[04:24:00] redline-: im gonna finish up my myth server tonight!
[04:24:00] Beirdo: already trimmed the beard and buzzed my head
[04:24:00] redline-: got LVM2 running now on a fresh install
[04:25:00] redline-: then i get to move the server over to the 55 inch!
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[04:27:00] Cardoe: I need to some how move some data off
[04:27:00] Cardoe: and redo my HD lvm2
[04:27:00] Cardoe: on this old server
[04:28:00] redline-: i used 3 machines to put data on to clear off my old myth box and add it to this new server
[04:28:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:28:00] Beirdo: the data shuffle is so fun
[04:28:00] redline-: wont have to wrry about that for a while though
[04:29:00] redline-: once i get this box stable ill deploy a mythfrontend in place of my MCE box and take that 200 gig hd and add it to my 340 gig lvm i have now =)
[04:29:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:29:00] Beirdo: you'll catch my 960G eventually
[04:29:00] redline-: i think 540 gig should be sufficent
[04:30:00] redline-: i was looking at some 400 gig drives the prices are getting better
[04:30:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:30:00] Beirdo: nobody needs more than 640k RAM either
[04:31:00] redline-: 540 is just my myth box though then i got 7 other machines in the house with 40 -100 gig in them including my gaming area
[04:31:00] redline-: lol!!!
[04:31:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:31:00] redline-: that was the funniest statement ever when it was mage back in like 89
[04:31:00] redline-: mage = made
[04:31:00] defiII: is there a simple command to clear your database settings?
[04:32:00] Beirdo: heheh
[04:32:00] Musicman: can i get some help?
[04:32:00] Beirdo: I think I'm gonna code
[04:32:00] Musicman: I have knopmyth and havent gotten it to boot completely, I know that I need to update the ivtv drivers but am not sure how to burn them
[04:32:00] redline-: cd /usr/local/data && rm -rf * that will clear your data ----- Just kidding
[04:33:00] Beirdo: wish I remember where I left off
[04:33:00] redline-: defill Im not sure man
[04:33:00] Beirdo: :)
[04:33:00] redline-: music where does it hang up ?
[04:34:00] Musicman: at the line:
[04:34:00] redline-: Musicman: before worring about the ivtv drivers you need to get knoppmyth up and running
[04:35:00] Musicman: saa7114.c: starting probe for adapter ivtv i2c driver #0 (0x10005)
[04:35:00] Musicman: its after i reboot after an install it happens
[04:35:00] Musicman: ive rebooted several times, same hang
[04:35:00] Musicman: ive reinstalled twice, still hangs
[04:36:00] redline-: move your tv-tuner card to a different slot in the machine
[04:36:00] Musicman: should i plug in my cable in line before i get mythtv up?
[04:37:00] redline-: dont worry about cables, just move the card 1 pci slot at a time till it boots
[04:37:00] redline-: if that does not work then you may need to tunr acpi off in your bios
[04:38:00] Musicman: ok
[04:38:00] redline-: apci rather
[04:41:00] Musicman: if it is working how long should it hang on that line?
[04:42:00] albino: Anyone know if you can use the wide band data port on an old RCA direct tv receiver to change channels?
[04:42:00] redline-: shouldnt be too long
[04:42:00] redline-: albino i know of serial connections
[04:43:00] redline-: Music it may only work in one pci slot in your machine, also if you have any other PCI cards take them out until you get it to boot
[04:44:00] Musicman: it is the only pci card and its in the last untried slot no, no worky
[04:44:00] Musicman: i do however have an agp vid card
[04:45:00] Musicman: would that effect it
[04:45:00] redline-: shouldnt
[04:45:00] redline-: how bout taking hte car dout completley and try to boot
[04:45:00] albino: redline-: So, was that a yes?
[04:46:00] redline-: Albino ive never seen anyone say they could or did with the wideband, i think that may only be for the cable box programming
[04:47:00] Musicman: yay, no card works
[04:47:00] albino: redline-: This seems promising, but I can't tell from it if changing channels is possible: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:SlV3G1cR . . . ient=firefox
[04:47:00] Musicman: so now what that i have booted?
[04:47:00] redline-: it worked musicman?
[04:48:00] albino: redline-: This seems to suggest that RealplayTV can use it somehow: http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templa . . . 9&cat=36
[04:48:00] Musicman: yeah
[04:48:00] Musicman: do i want to use dchp broadcast?
[04:48:00] Musicman: dhcp
[04:49:00] redline-: yes
[04:50:00] redline-: albino there are cheap irblasters that can the change channels quickly with lorc
[04:50:00] albino: redline-: Got a link?
[04:50:00] redline-: I have no clue as to this wide band
[04:50:00] redline-: http://www.lirc.org
[04:51:00] redline-: and google the ledxmit script
[04:51:00] albino: redline-: thanks
[04:52:00] Musicman: should i change any of these server settings?
[04:52:00] Musicman: i dont know what im doing
[04:52:00] Musicman: and should i add my capture card even though i havent connected it
[04:54:00] redline-: Music your best bet is to stop, take a step back learn alittle linux first, if you dont this will frustrate the hell out of you, then read the knoppmyth documentation
[04:54:00] Musicman: any suggestions on where to start?
[04:55:00] redline-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ supposedly the most user friedly linux out there
[04:56:00] redline-: what kind of capture card do you have?
[04:56:00] Musicman: Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 500 MCE White box PCI Interface Tuner Card
[04:56:00] Musicman: could it be an error with the card?
[04:56:00] redline-: ok after you have a stable box up and running, you need the ivtv drivers, get these to work first before you start with myth
[04:57:00] redline-: i think its an acpi thing
[04:57:00] redline-: one sec music
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[04:58:00] redline-: try this
[04:58:00] redline-: nano /etc/lilo.conf
[04:58:00] Cyberknet: man. 250 packages to update after an FC4 install.
[04:58:00] Beirdo: Cyberknet, sucks to be you :)
[04:58:00] redline-: add acpi=off after your kernel load line
[04:58:00] Cyberknet: Beirdo: when does it not?
[04:58:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:58:00] Cyberknet: heheh
[04:58:00] Beirdo: go ask yer wife that
[04:59:00] Cyberknet: greetings, friend =)
[04:59:00] Beirdo: how's it goin?
[04:59:00] Cyberknet: good.
[04:59:00] redline-: then lype lilo at your boot prompt
[04:59:00] Cyberknet: and you? married yet? =P
[04:59:00] Beirdo: I should NOT have had that nap
[04:59:00] Beirdo: no, May 20
[04:59:00] Cyberknet: I know.
[04:59:00] Cyberknet: heh
[04:59:00] Cyberknet: Any ideas on that niveus thing?
[04:59:00] redline-: decoderbase.cpp: In member function `virtual bool DecoderBase::FindPosition(long long int, bool, int&, int&)': any ides?
[04:59:00] Beirdo: nfc
[05:00:00] redline-: ideas
[05:00:00] redline-: compiling myth svn
[05:00:00] Cyberknet: really? Hmm.. I thought if anyone had any ideas about new HTPC products it would be you.
[05:00:00] Beirdo: I'm not buyin shit, dude
[05:00:00] Beirdo: hehe
[05:00:00] Cyberknet: Your spending days are over, eh?
[05:01:00] Beirdo: my toy budget's smaller than yours
[05:01:00] Cyberknet: heh
[05:01:00] albino: redline-: Do you know if anyone has figured out how to use the regular modem in most of the receivers to change channels?
[05:01:00] Cyberknet: the only new toys I buy are for one of two girls. My wife, or my neice
[05:01:00] Beirdo: and we both know that you are a Scottish Aussie
[05:01:00] Cyberknet: both completely different.
[05:02:00] redline-: Albino no i havent ive only used serial to serial and/or an irblaster i made myself
[05:02:00] sri: hey dudes
[05:02:00] sri: any body know of a good tutorial to set up mythtv on directfb?
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[05:02:00] defiII: is there a simple command to clear your database settings?
[05:03:00] Beirdo: defiII, nope, learn some mysql
[05:03:00] defiII: I cant connect to my mysql database anymore and I want to start over?
[05:03:00] defiII: Beirdo, What if i unmerge and then remerge it?
[05:03:00] Beirdo: ummm
[05:03:00] KaiForce: defiII: do you want to end up with a blank db?
[05:03:00] KaiForce: empty rather
[05:04:00] defiII: KaiForce, yup and a blank password too
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[05:04:00] Cyberknet: B: are you getting my privmsgs lately?
[05:04:00] KaiForce: defiII: i did a "drop database mythconverg" last night but I had the original pass
[05:04:00] KaiForce: then i recreated it per mythtvology
[05:05:00] KaiForce: then set everything back up in mythtv-setup etc...
[05:06:00] defiII: well im doing this on a 46" screen and can barely reab my xterm
[05:06:00] defiII: *read
[05:07:00] defiII: so I'm gonna try to unmerge remerge and see what happens
[05:07:00] redline-: ssh is your friend
[05:07:00] KaiForce: can't run a shell on another system?
[05:07:00] defiII: lol
[05:07:00] defiII: long story
[05:07:00] redline-: emerge terminal
[05:07:00] KaiForce: putty is my constant companion :)
[05:07:00] defiII: I've been havin problems
[05:07:00] redline-: me too but i cant kill my wife
[05:08:00] Beirdo: emerge divorce?
[05:08:00] Beirdo: heh.
[05:08:00] redline-: i wish sometimes
[05:08:00] Beirdo: nah
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[05:09:00] Beirdo: that wouldn't solve anything
[05:09:00] redline-: i agree
[05:09:00] redline-: then i would be broke =p
[05:09:00] defiII: No mine is ummm... a little different
[05:10:00] redline-: so whats the good about directfb? anyting other than eyecandy?
[05:10:00] defiII: decided to upgrade all 3 of my computers this week and install myth for the first time while testing all sorts of new use flags
[05:11:00] defiII: Ive got about 3/4 of a computer now
[05:11:00] KaiForce: heheh high ambition
[05:11:00] defiII: or the week off
[05:11:00] KaiForce: right this is the week to try that
[05:11:00] defiII: yup
[05:12:00] defiII: this had to happen right after I finally got tvout working
[05:12:00] defiII: I could see the "light at the end of the tunnel"
[05:12:00] redline-: it gets easier from here defill
[05:13:00] redline-: took me 3 months to build my first fully functional myth box, now it takes me a few hours
[05:13:00] defiII: yeah it looks like it will
[05:13:00] defiII: I got dvd working and acs pass through to spdif on a soundstorm board so I was like "yeahhh!"
[05:14:00] KaiForce: same here redline, but my first only took a couple of days. my brother had already built one before I tried it
[05:14:00] defiII: and then this....
[05:14:00] redline-: i wish i had someone to talk to heh it was driving me nuts
[05:15:00] KaiForce: i didn't even know what myth did when I built it.
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[05:15:00] redline-: I am waiting for my audigy 2 zs to come in yet so i can use the optical to my reciver so that should be fun to figure out
[05:16:00] redline-: then i see myth has a DTS passthrough i havent started to lookinto yet
[05:16:00] |Slurpee|: yo
[05:16:00] |Slurpee|: finally got my system up !! time to instal debian
[05:16:00] |Slurpee|: does the version of debian matter for mythtv ?
[05:17:00] KaiForce: Slurpee: running fc4 but I think you want to be as current as possible
[05:18:00] |Slurpee|: 3.1 stable is good enough ?
[05:18:00] |Slurpee|: i have the disc right here for it
[05:19:00] KaiForce: couldn't say, if you haven't built myth before I would recommend following a guide
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[05:20:00] |Slurpee|: everyone in this channel usually help me ;/
[05:20:00] |Slurpee|: were are these guides
[05:20:00] |Slurpee|: mythtv.org ?
[05:21:00] KaiForce: google turned up this one for debian: http://www.wilson-stowe.com/drupal/node/2
[05:21:00] topping: anyone know how to boot xebian in single user mode?
[05:21:00] topping: i hoarked an init script and now i can't get in to fix it
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[05:25:00] topping: join #gentoo-xbox
[05:25:00] topping: heh
[05:26:00] KaiForce: wow comedy central has a lot of frame corruption (for lack of a better term) but history channel was fine
[05:29:00] defiII: redline-, yeah I saw that too (about the DTS) that should be fun to figure out
[05:29:00] defiII: I still have to get x to fit my screen good
[05:30:00] defiII: For some reason it is alot bigger that what my modeline is set too
[05:30:00] defiII: Might be something related to the virtual desktop
[05:40:00] |Slurpee|: k
[05:41:00] |Slurpee|: i got my 2800+ sempron 64 bit, 1 gig of ddar, pvr 150, fx5200, and debian installed
[05:41:00] KaiForce: dang the ivtv update upgraded my kernel. i hope the other drivers have yum packages....
[05:41:00] |Slurpee|: now what do i do ? :_
[05:42:00] |Slurpee|: kaiforce, that guide u found was from 2003
[05:42:00] KaiForce: sorry, never did a debian installation...
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[05:43:00] levander: Well, I've finally decided my beloved dual PIII-550 is just too damn slow to serve as a desktop Linux machine running gnome.
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[05:44:00] levander: Any opinions of how responsive it will be as a mythtv box? Assuming I be hardware encoders/decoders?
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[05:49:00] defiII: Ok that didn't work
[05:49:00] defiII: I reset the password and it still wont let me in
[05:50:00] defiII: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:50:00] defiII: thats the error I get
[05:51:00] defiII: any ysql types that no what that means
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[05:55:00] Musicman: it wasnt aspci or whatever :/
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[05:56:00] ChewVodka: Hi, I'm trying to install myth using Jerrod's guide but I'm having trouble getting my video card to output to the tv.. i can see the POST fine, but once X starts I get all messed up
[05:57:00] ChewVodka: is anybody available to help me?
[05:58:00] topping: ChewVodka: it sounds like more of a video card problem to me
[05:58:00] topping: can you get myth running on a normal monitor?
[05:59:00] ChewVodka: i haven't gotten that far yet :)
[05:59:00] topping: ok, take a step bacl
[05:59:00] topping: back
[05:59:00] topping: get things running with a normal monitor first
[05:59:00] topping: -or-
[05:59:00] ChewVodka: i'm running on it right now with a normal monitor
[06:00:00] ChewVodka: it displays fine on the monitor, at 800x600.. but the tvout doesn't look right after X loads
[06:00:00] topping: oic
[06:00:00] topping: what card?
[06:00:00] ChewVodka: a generic brand nVidia GeForce MX4000
[06:01:00] ChewVodka: i'm totally new to linux, and have tried to use Jerrod's 'yum' suggestion, and I also tried to download the driver from nvidia directly, but i'm so lost :*(
[06:02:00] topping: hmm
[06:02:00] topping: nVidia cards kinda suck on linux imho
[06:02:00] ChewVodka: when going through nvidia, the screen says i have to exit X and i have no idea how to do that.. anything else i try X reboots saying the display is not setup properlly
[06:02:00] topping: <ctl>-<alt>-<backspace>
[06:02:00] topping: ?
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[06:04:00] Azariah: Anyone here use nuvexport to export to divx?
[06:05:00] topping: did you install xvid package?
[06:05:00] defiII: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[06:05:00] defiII: whats that mean
[06:05:00] defiII: obvioulsy permissions problem
[06:06:00] defiII: but what about using password:NO
[06:06:00] topping: defiII: use -p
[06:06:00] topping: or -P
[06:06:00] t00m: do you have a password seet?
[06:06:00] t00m: set?
[06:06:00] Azariah: I use knoppmyth....It is disabled in it...That is why I am trying divx.
[06:06:00] topping: can't remember
[06:06:00] t00m: it's -p
[06:06:00] defiII: im typing this
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[06:07:00] defiII: mysqladmin -u root password newpassword
[06:07:00] JeffATL: even though my first and only disk drive is /dev/hde, is that still hd(0) to grub?
[06:07:00] ChewVodka: ok well, i don't know what alt+ctrl+backspace does, but it didn't close out X. It went back to the login screen, at like 2000x1800 resolution
[06:07:00] t00m: never used mysqladmin, always update passwords with mysql
[06:08:00] t00m: ChewVodka: did you have the nvidia kernel module compiled?
[06:08:00] t00m: and loaded
[06:08:00] Beirdo: ChewVodka, it closed X, then gdm or xdm restarted it
[06:08:00] ChewVodka: ok
[06:08:00] defiII: topping, where?
[06:09:00] ChewVodka: here's where i'm at.. following the guide, i've installed FC4 and am now at the install video card drivers section... i did the yum install thing
[06:09:00] t00m: ChewVodka: that one works for me: http://mugiri.dyndns.org/config/xorg.conf
[06:09:00] t00m: you might have to adjust the monitor section
[06:11:00] ChewVodka: hmm
[06:11:00] xris: w00t. first truly new featured added to mythweb in ages.
[06:12:00] xris: and now I only have 7 more tickets to close.
[06:12:00] ChewVodka: my problem may be because I don't have a TV defined as a device?
[06:12:00] topping: defiII: it's in the mysqladmin man page
[06:13:00] t00m: xris: which one?
[06:13:00] topping: 'man mysqladmin'
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[06:14:00] xris: t00m: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/99
[06:14:00] t00m: nice
[06:15:00] ChewVodka: here's my current xorg.conf... should i add a TV device listing? http://pastebin.com/485047
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[06:19:00] |Slurpee|: i got my 2800+ sempron 64 bit, 1 gig of ddar, pvr 150, fx5200, and debian installed
[06:19:00] |Slurpee|: now what do i do
[06:19:00] Musicman: i need to install these ivtv drivers onto my knopmyth machine, how?
[06:19:00] topping: "mount -t loop /mnt/e/debian/rootfs /mnt/xebian" doesn't work from the xebian boot cd. says "fs type loop not supported by kernel", but lsmod clearly shows it
[06:19:00] topping: is my brain not functioning?
[06:20:00] ** t00m is going to watch the futurama recording now ... **
[06:21:00] Beirdo: duh
[06:21:00] Beirdo: mount blah -o loop
[06:21:00] Beirdo: not -t loop
[06:21:00] Beirdo: hehe
[06:21:00] topping: hehe thanks
[06:21:00] Beirdo: someone needs sleep
[06:21:00] Beirdo: :)
[06:21:00] topping: yah bad
[06:21:00] topping: i'm trying to get streamers running for this apartment block party tomorrow night
[06:21:00] Beirdo: I do silly things like that myself
[06:22:00] topping: thanks
[06:22:00] Beirdo: not a problem
[06:28:00] ChewVodka: uhg! i can't get the display driver from nvidia now!
[06:29:00] ChewVodka: now its working
[06:31:00] topping: ChewVodka: FWIW, the first time i posted on #fedora with nVidia problems, most advised me if i valued my time to replace the card
[06:31:00] ChewVodka: heh why? i read lots of places that say nvidia is the best option
[06:31:00] topping: it's a frustrating experience to get them working, but i can attest it is possible (i had more time than money then)
[06:31:00] topping: nVidia is fine, but their linux support lacks
[06:31:00] ChewVodka: they can't be as bad as ATI
[06:31:00] ChewVodka: ATI doesn't have ANY
[06:31:00] topping: ATI isn't even in the running as an option
[06:31:00] ChewVodka: heh
[06:31:00] Beirdo: ChewVodka, yes they do
[06:32:00] Beirdo: they put out Linux drivers, that's not none
[06:32:00] ChewVodka: they don't work.. i had an ati card i was trying to configure on my 'test system' and had no luck
[06:33:00] Beirdo: they DO work
[06:33:00] Beirdo: pebcak aside
[06:33:00] Beirdo: I'm watching TV off a 9600 pro right now
[06:33:00] ChewVodka: i just want to get mine working
[06:34:00] chuggachu: ChewVodka, I have the same card, unless you have a bad one .. it should be adequate
[06:34:00] ChewVodka: an MX4000?
[06:34:00] Beirdo: so don't be slamming ATI if you don't know the whole story :)
[06:34:00] Beirdo: hehe
[06:34:00] Beirdo: yeah, their drivers are finnicky
[06:35:00] ChewVodka: hey i love ati.. i have an x850 pro
[06:35:00] Beirdo: but they exist, and they do work
[06:36:00] chuggachu: ChewVodka: yes .. eGforce mx 4000
[06:36:00] ChewVodka: chuggachu: what did you have to do to install drivers for it to make the video out work?
[06:36:00] redline-: anyone know if svideo can do 720P or is it just composite
[06:37:00] redline-: or component
[06:37:00] topping: so i guess that's news to me on ATI
[06:38:00] GreyFoxx: redline-: No, you cannot put hidef over svideo
[06:38:00] chuggachu: ChewVodka: followed Jarods howto to the letter and I shutdown X and gdm to install the driver. Dial -up here .. so I downloaded the file and ran it locally
[06:38:00] GreyFoxx: composite/svideo are sdtv only
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[06:39:00] ChewVodka: how do i shutdown x and gdm?
[06:39:00] Beirdo: change the init level
[06:39:00] ChewVodka: ooh
[06:39:00] Beirdo: for most distros, init level 3 has no X
[06:39:00] ChewVodka: i skimmed over that part
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[06:41:00] ChewVodka: his guide is good, but it's not nearly dumbed down enough for me... he doesn't say anything about needing to do that, and doesn't say how to restart X.. etc.. you have to KNOW these things
[06:41:00] chuggachu: ChewVodka, : or learn as you go. as I did
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[06:43:00] Beirdo: night all
[06:43:00] Beirdo: it's bed time
[06:44:00] ChewVodka: hahha.. i tried to 'init 3' and it say command not found
[06:44:00] Beirdo: telinit 3
[06:44:00] Beirdo: I think is the command
[06:44:00] GreyFoxx: init 3 would do it
[06:44:00] ChewVodka: nope
[06:44:00] ChewVodka: i'm in SU mode
[06:44:00] GreyFoxx: of course you gotta be root and have it in your path,
[06:45:00] ChewVodka: um, how do i check the path
[06:45:00] GreyFoxx: it's usually in /sbin
[06:45:00] ChewVodka: so /sbin/init 3
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[06:46:00] GreyFoxx: That would put the system into init level 3, init 6 would do level 6 which is reboot, and init 0 is halt
[06:46:00] chuggachu: are you using an X IRC client ?
[06:46:00] chuggachu: i guess thats a yes
[06:46:00] GreyFoxx: hehehe
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[07:07:00] Musicman: i found how to do it on every client but knopmyth, can anyone help me update the ivtv drivers so i can use my pvr x50 card?
[07:09:00] thechris: knopmyth installs to the HDD?
[07:09:00] Musicman: yes
[07:09:00] Musicman: its based off of debian
[07:13:00] thechris: ah, wait 1 second
[07:13:00] thechris: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_PVR_500_Setup
[07:13:00] thechris: this is almost exactly what you would do. ignore the "emerge ivtv" part...
[07:13:00] Musicman: wow, im having problems with my pvr 500
[07:14:00] Musicman: but its based off the pvr 150 structure is why i just asked about that
[07:15:00] Musicman: yeah, but how do i launch the internet in debian?
[07:15:00] thechris: you realize you only need ivtv 0.3 or higher for the pvr500 right? there is no real reason to use the latest development version in most cases
[07:16:00] Musicman: knopmyth is in a small noobish kernel that i escaped to get the debian desktop
[07:16:00] Musicman: but it wont let me launch the internet
[07:16:00] thechris: are you in x11?
[07:16:00] Musicman: i gues
[07:16:00] Musicman: it looks alot like windows
[07:16:00] Musicman: i go into start, windows, internet, lynx
[07:16:00] thechris: and is there a web browsers?
[07:17:00] Musicman: and it gives me an error
[07:17:00] thechris: thats odd.
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[07:17:00] Cyberknet: anyone happen to remember what setup menu the automatic datadirect download option is in?
[07:17:00] thechris: in anycase if you have a link you can use wget
[07:17:00] kcody: Cyberknet: it's through the frontend
[07:17:00] Musicman: Alert! Unable to find document
[07:17:00] Cyberknet: yep
[07:17:00] kcody: under 'General'
[07:17:00] thechris: Musicman: press g
[07:18:00] Musicman: nothing
[07:18:00] Cyberknet: aha
[07:18:00] Cyberknet: cool
[07:18:00] Cyberknet: looks like data direct is still messing up
[07:18:00] Cyberknet: returning empty sets
[07:18:00] Cyberknet: and trying to delete my precious data
[07:18:00] kcody: question: is the pvr-150 1045 (non media center) remote control receiver a usb unit or serial?
[07:18:00] kcody: Cyberknet: dunno, everyone else says that but mine is fine
[07:18:00] kcody: except for the frigging courier font onscreen
[07:19:00] thechris: Musicman: open up a terminal (xterm)
[07:19:00] thechris: Musicman: lynx www.google.com
[07:19:00] Cyberknet: kcody: when you run mythfilldatabase it doesn't delete tomorrow's listings?
[07:19:00] Musicman: i <3 thechris
[07:19:00] kcody: i had listings earlier, they expired after a few hours, then i turned on the automatic mythfilldatabase and life was good
[07:20:00] Cyberknet: hmmm
[07:20:00] Cyberknet: no idea
[07:20:00] Cyberknet: but its late, and it's my bed time
[07:20:00] kcody: mine too
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[07:20:00] Cyberknet: adios amigos
[07:20:00] kcody: just got the media center edition that everyone's been returning to work fine
[07:21:00] thechris: i though zap2it was getting mad about the auto fill database
[07:21:00] thechris: in that everyone does it at the same time
[07:21:00] thechris: or has that been fixed?
[07:21:00] JeffATL: kcody: how about the remote that came with it?
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[07:21:00] kcody: JeffATL: yes.
[07:21:00] kcody: wondered if you were still here
[07:22:00] kcody: you'll need a few files
[07:22:00] JeffATL: kcody: i'm doing some mass emerging before proceeding
[07:22:00] kcody: is that dcc coming through?
[07:22:00] Musicman: thanks chris
[07:22:00] JeffATL: kcody: you doccing this anywhere>
[07:22:00] JeffATL: kcody: uh, negative
[07:23:00] kcody: JeffATL: no, i'm lazy and have to get to bed. i can send it to you and you can forward it...
[07:23:00] kcody: or you can slip my email to someone and i'll reply
[07:23:00] kcody: but i can't dig for who to submit it to now and i'll forget by tomorrow
[07:23:00] kcody: hmm
[07:24:00] kcody: correct, dcc stalled
[07:24:00] kcody: got an email?
[07:24:00] JeffATL: kcody: see my pm
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[07:27:00] Musicman: if i download the file, how would i find out the path-to-file?
[07:28:00] thechris: Musicman: it should be in the current directory.
[07:28:00] thechris: likely ~/
[07:28:00] thechris: ~/ is "home"
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[07:32:00] sportman: wow, knoppmyth messed up my computer
[07:32:00] sportman: :(
[07:32:00] sportman: i installed it
[07:32:00] sportman: and it would not boot
[07:32:00] sportman: :(
[07:32:00] sportman: so i cried
[07:32:00] sportman: okbbl
[07:32:00] Musicman: any other ideas as to find out where it was downloaded?
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[07:32:00] thechris: how far into the boot process?
[07:32:00] sportman|sleep: about no where
[07:32:00] sportman|sleep: i turn on
[07:33:00] sportman|sleep: and it says no os found
[07:33:00] sportman|sleep: dont even get into lilo
[07:33:00] sportman|sleep: bbl
[07:33:00] thechris: hmm bios issue.
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[07:33:00] sportman|sleep: nmope
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[07:33:00] thechris: Musicman: it should be in the current dir. if you exit lynx, it will be in that dir. its probaly ~/
[07:33:00] sportman|sleep: not bios
[07:34:00] sportman|sleep: ill just try fedora
[07:34:00] sportman|sleep: and then install myth on there
[07:34:00] sportman|sleep: bbl
[07:35:00] Musicman: that error was human error
[07:36:00] Musicman: but i get an error whenever i put this in:
[07:36:00] Musicman: tar -zxf path-to-ivtv-0.3xx -C /root
[07:36:00] Musicman: it is:
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[07:36:00] Musicman: tar: you may not specify more than one "-acdtrux" option
[07:36:00] Musicman: i put that in at the root@mythtv
[07:37:00] thechris: type — whoami
[07:37:00] thechris: does it say root (or UID 0)
[07:38:00] Musicman: root@mythtv:/home/mythth# tar -zxf ivtv-0.4.1.tar.gz -c /root/
[07:38:00] Musicman: root@mythtv:/home/mythtv# tar -zxf ivtv-0.4.1.tar.gz -c /root/
[07:39:00] thechris: should be -C
[07:39:00] thechris: case sensitive
[07:39:00] Musicman: case sensitive?
[07:39:00] Musicman: damn your good
[07:39:00] thechris: heh, yeah, i make all types of mistakes
[07:40:00] thechris: and slowy learn
[07:41:00] Musicman: ok, that with the -C worked
[07:41:00] Musicman: but then i tried:
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[07:42:00] Musicman: root@mythtv:/home/mythtv# cd /root/ivtv-0.4.1.tar.gz/driver
[07:42:00] Musicman: and got no such file or directory
[07:42:00] Musicman: nvm
[07:43:00] thechris: ok, i take it you found the dir
[07:43:00] Musicman: yeah
[07:43:00] Musicman: i didnt need the .tar.gz
[07:43:00] Musicman: but now it wont make/install
[07:44:00] thechris: i guess that is right...
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[07:44:00] thechris: i doubt knopp had gcc, the compiler, with it
[07:45:00] Musicman: this isnt gonna end well is it
[07:45:00] thechris: what version of ivtv do you have?
[07:45:00] Musicman: i downloaded .4
[07:45:00] thechris: what is already installed?
[07:45:00] Musicman: knopmyth
[07:46:00] cesman: KnoppMyth does include gcc
[07:46:00] thechris: type: modinfo ivtv | grep version
[07:46:00] cesman: it includes everything to recompile MythTV
[07:46:00] Musicman: is it ok to do that while im in root?
[07:46:00] cesman: or anything else....
[07:46:00] thechris: hmm, then the compile should have worked.
[07:47:00] Musicman: is this the correct line to compile?
[07:47:00] Musicman: make && make install
[07:47:00] thechris: Musicman: yes, running modinfo will give info on the ivtv installed
[07:47:00] thechris: Musicman: ./configure
[07:47:00] thechris: actually, i guess just make && make install
[07:49:00] Musicman: maybe its the updater?
[07:49:00] thechris: i don't think so
[07:49:00] thechris: in anycase, try: modinfo ivtv | grep version
[07:49:00] Musicman: i did, it didnt return anything
[07:50:00] thechris: lsmod | grep ivtv
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[07:51:00] Musicman: is that ok to do while im in the ivtv directory?
[07:51:00] thechris: sure
[07:51:00] Musicman: and whats the | mean?
[07:51:00] thechris: pipe
[07:51:00] Musicman: skip a line or type that in
[07:51:00] thechris: it means send the output of lsmod to the input of grep
[07:51:00] Musicman: yeah, still no return then
[07:51:00] thechris: modprobe ivtv
[07:52:00] Musicman: error
[07:52:00] thechris: what error?
[07:53:00] Musicman: init_module: no such device...
[07:53:00] thechris: what error did make give you?
[07:53:00] Musicman: what im using as a guide mention .3... maybe they changed it for .4?
[07:53:00] Musicman: awwww...
[07:54:00] Musicman: ./lib/modules/2.4.25
[07:54:00] Musicman: 2.4.25 is my version
[07:54:00] cesman: Musicman: What release of KnoppMyth are you using?
[07:54:00] Musicman: r4v5
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[07:54:00] cesman: R4V5...
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[07:55:00] cesman: why not auto update to the latest?
[07:55:00] cesman: the 500 is support out the box
[07:55:00] Musicman: because i didnt know there was a latest nor how to upgrade
[07:55:00] cesman: jesus christ man....
[07:55:00] Musicman: all i have to say is:
[07:55:00] cesman: do you ever visit the KnoppMyth site?
[07:55:00] Musicman: i use windows
[07:56:00] Musicman: i just downloaded it today
[07:56:00] Musicman: from the knoppmyth site
[07:56:00] cesman: today?!
[07:56:00] cesman: Dude, it R5 has been out for a while...
[07:56:00] cesman: I cannot even remember the last time I thought of R4
[07:56:00] Musicman: how hard are you thinking?
[07:57:00] cesman: as I'm the fellow behind KnoppMyth, not very....
[07:57:00] Musicman: actually, i looked it up, its r4v5
[07:57:00] Musicman: ...
[07:57:00] cesman: this is a new install and you have not done anything?
[07:57:00] Musicman: mysettopbox.tv is the site?
[07:58:00] cesman: yes
[07:58:00] cesman: there is also #knoppmyth here on freenode
[07:58:00] cesman: and knoppmythwiki.org
[07:58:00] Musicman: hey, i got it from http://planetmirror.com/pub/knoppmyth/
[07:58:00] Musicman: its not updated i guess
[07:59:00] cesman: not one of my regular mirrors....
[08:00:00] cesman: if this is a new install and nothing is working, get R5A26 and just reinstall
[08:00:00] Musicman: wondered why the dates stopped in 2004?
[08:00:00] cesman: if you have done some stuff, under the KnoppMyth menu do a backup
[08:00:00] cesman: the on the new version, select auto upgrade
[08:00:00] Musicman: no, fresh install sounds better
[08:01:00] Musicman: i havent done anything but find the debian desktop
[08:02:00] Musicman: is a 3ghz processor good enough to run a dual channel tuner?
[08:02:00] cesman: yes
[08:02:00] cesman: more than enough
[08:02:00] thechris: given that the mpeg is done in hardware
[08:02:00] Musicman: what is it most intensive on?
[08:02:00] cesman: yep!
[08:03:00] thechris: Musicman: any commercial detection or reencoding will make some use of the CPU
[08:03:00] Musicman: it says the pvr 150 (which is the core of my pvr 500) runs in the pci
[08:03:00] cesman: probably xmame :)
[08:03:00] cesman: depending on the game of course
[08:04:00] Musicman: one last question for once i get this set up, is there any easy way to transfer files between my windows pc and my knopmyth box?
[08:05:00] cesman: samba
[08:05:00] cesman: just /etc/init.d/samba start
[08:06:00] cesman: and you should see it in "neighborhood network"
[08:06:00] cesman: update-rc.d samba defaults
[08:06:00] cesman: to have it start on boot
[08:06:00] Musicman: is samba build into debian?
[08:06:00] Musicman: or do i have to use that retarded browser
[08:07:00] cesman: you have to read what I just wrote...
[08:08:00] Musicman: im xterm how to get out of my root directory?
[08:08:00] cesman: cd /dir/you/want
[08:09:00] topping: w00t! two xboxes slaving off a icecast server!
[08:09:00] Musicman: now by etc for samba you mean...
[08:11:00] cesman: I meant what I wrote...
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[08:14:00] Musicman: so all i have to do in xterm is?
[08:14:00] Musicman: ./etc/init.d/samba start
[08:15:00] cesman: as root /etc/init.d/samba start
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[08:16:00] cesman: that will only start Samba for the current session
[08:16:00] cesman: if you reboot, Samba won't be running
[08:16:00] cesman: use the other command to have it start/shutdown when the system does the same
[08:20:00] Musicman: thats one with the etc doesnt work but the other does
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[08:21:00] cesman: well, saying it doesn't work isn't say much....
[08:21:00] cesman: what eroor message do you get when you type it in?
[08:22:00] Musicman: ./etc/init.d/samba: No such file or directory
[08:22:00] cesman: no where did I state ./etc
[08:23:00] Musicman: <cesman> just /etc/init.d/samba start
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[08:23:00] cesman: if you enter the command just like I showed, you should have no issue
[08:23:00] cesman: right NOT ./etc/init.d/samba start
[08:23:00] Musicman: i know no period
[08:23:00] mediasurf: Kinda OT can any one recommend a good switch for NFS
[08:23:00] Musicman: for irc, it wont let you type /
[08:24:00] mediasurf: I tried a linksys and a Netgear Managed both lockup during video playback
[08:24:00] cesman: well, in *nix there is a difference between /etc and ./etc
[08:25:00] cesman: you type ./etc and I think ./etc not /etc
[08:25:00] Musicman: error is.... bash: /etc/init.d/samba: No such file or directory
[08:26:00] cesman: it is extermely odd that the second command works yet the start didn't.....
[08:26:00] mediasurf: I've heard good reports about Dlink.....any thoughts?
[08:26:00] cesman: at any rate, if you are going to update to R5A26, then do so...
[08:26:00] Musicman: maybe *nix hates me as much as *dows
[08:27:00] cesman: I don't want to waste either of our time with you working on R4V5...
[08:27:00] cesman: *nix is just picky about it's friends ;)
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[08:27:00] mediasurf: hello?
[08:27:00] cesman: hello
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[08:31:00] mediasurf: cesman: what kind of switch do you use?
[08:31:00] cesman: some generic 10/100 16 port switch
[08:32:00] mediasurf: who makes it?
[08:32:00] Musicman: now to find my network neighborhood
[08:32:00] cesman: work fine w/ NFS between my backends
[08:32:00] cesman: I cannot remember
[08:32:00] cesman: hence the 'generic'
[08:32:00] mediasurf: I assume its unmanaged
[08:33:00] cesman: yep
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[08:33:00] cwsmith: anyone ever get a tuner not available (in status) after an install of myth ?
[08:33:00] mediasurf: has it ever locked up?
[08:34:00] cwsmith: like not recording or anything but just not available ?
[08:34:00] cwsmith: 150mce or ati tv wonder
[08:34:00] cesman: my switch? no
[08:34:00] cwsmith: both have same results
[08:34:00] cwsmith: on my box ?
[08:35:00] mediasurf: Its the darndest thing
[08:35:00] cesman: cwsmith: multiple backends?
[08:36:00] mediasurf: If I connect BE to FE with Crossover cable everything works great.....put a switch between and after an hour or so the switch will lock up?
[08:36:00] cwsmith: no just one backend
[08:36:00] cwsmith: or a master and slave
[08:36:00] cwsmith: but on both boxes mythbackend is running
[08:37:00] cwsmith: cause if i dont run mythbackend the slave box will crash and do all kinds of wierd things
[08:37:00] cwsmith: i have a pvr350 in one
[08:37:00] cwsmith: and the other i have tried the 150 and tv wonder and all i get is tuner not available
[08:37:00] cwsmith: but the slave can watch the pvr350 tuner on the master box
[08:37:00] cwsmith: and can watch recording perfectly and stuff
[08:38:00] cwsmith: just not use the tuner of that box ?
[08:38:00] cwsmith: and i check gossamer and mythtvtalk with no luck :(
[08:38:00] mediasurf: Did you run mythfilldatabase on the slave?
[08:39:00] cesman: backend logs?
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[08:39:00] Musicman: oh yeah, will a Gefore MX4000 be enough to run it?
[08:39:00] Musicman: 64 mb ddr
[08:39:00] cesman: one should not run mythfilldb on the slave
[08:39:00] cesman: Musicman: yes
[08:40:00] cwsmith: no not yet
[08:40:00] cwsmith: lol i read up on that one :)
[08:40:00] mediasurf: I know I was making sure cwsmith did not accidently create a local database on his slave
[08:40:00] cwsmith: but i have not run mythfilldatabase on master should i try that ? or is that a requirement after changed and playing with card setting
[08:41:00] mediasurf: did you run mythtv-setup on both boxes?
[08:41:00] cwsmith: ya
[08:42:00] cesman: after running it on the master, you didn't run it on the slave and answer yes to delete the cards I hope
[08:42:00] cwsmith: no i dont think so
[08:42:00] cwsmith: i ran it on master
[08:42:00] cwsmith: then ran it on slave without saying yes
[08:43:00] cwsmith: to delete cards
[08:43:00] cwsmith: that bad?
[08:43:00] cesman: no, you'd just have to reconfigure card on the master again
[08:43:00] cwsmith: oh ok
[08:43:00] cwsmith: cause after the problem
[08:43:00] cwsmith: i tried doing a delete on slave
[08:43:00] cwsmith: for cards
[08:44:00] cesman: you should check the backend log
[08:44:00] cwsmith: and just having the slave tuner
[08:44:00] cwsmith: up
[08:44:00] cwsmith: but same not available prob
[08:44:00] cesman: if you do a delete on either, it wipes ALL the cards
[08:44:00] mediasurf: did you make your hostnames different for each box (example) mythmaster.mythtv and mythslave.mythtv ?
[08:44:00] cwsmith: ya
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[08:44:00] cwsmith: the backend just shows
[08:44:00] cesman: well, I'm going to rest my head...
[08:44:00] cesman: later folks
[08:45:00] cwsmith: unable to connect to local mysql /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
[08:45:00] cwsmith: but i am not running mysql on slave
[08:45:00] cwsmith: thats the only thing in the backend.log
[08:45:00] cwsmith: should i start mysqld so it makes the mysql.sock ?
[08:46:00] cesman: then perhaps mysql isn't running on the master
[08:46:00] cwsmith: no its running
[08:46:00] cwsmith: cause my master is running good
[08:46:00] cwsmith: and the slave can connect to master and see all the database stuff like recordings
[08:46:00] cesman: you also need to allow network connections for mysql, so the slave can access it...
[08:46:00] cwsmith: and stuff like that
[08:46:00] cwsmith: did that :)
[08:46:00] cesman: well, good luck and good night
[08:46:00] cwsmith: lol
[08:46:00] cwsmith: that works :)
[08:49:00] cwsmith: i should mention that the cat /tmp/test_capture works fine :)
[08:49:00] cwsmith: so i know the tv tuner card is working
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[08:50:00] mediasurf: are your Hosnames different for each box?
[08:50:00] mediasurf: hostnames sorry
[08:51:00] cwsmith: ya
[08:51:00] cwsmith: one is mytvslave
[08:51:00] cwsmith: and one is mytvmaster
[08:51:00] mediasurf: ok
[08:52:00] mediasurf: what distro?
[08:52:00] cwsmith: fc4
[08:52:00] mediasurf: are you using Jarod's guide?
[08:52:00] cwsmith: ya
[08:53:00] mediasurf: did you change your mysql settings to allow slave connections....Check the tips and tricks section
[08:53:00] cwsmith: yep :)
[08:54:00] cwsmith: which is working cause my slave see everything on the master box
[08:54:00] cwsmith: i can watch the recordings that are on master
[08:54:00] cwsmith: perfectly on slave :)
[08:54:00] cwsmith: just cannot use the card on slave
[08:54:00] cwsmith: can even watch live tv it just skips the card 1 and goes to card 2 cause card one says not available :)
[08:54:00] cwsmith: and the card 2 is in the master btw
[08:55:00] mediasurf: do you start mythbackend on the slave after starting on the master?
[08:55:00] cwsmith: ya
[08:55:00] cwsmith: basicley turned on master
[08:55:00] cwsmith: waited till booted
[08:55:00] cwsmith: then turn on slave
[08:56:00] mediasurf: look at mythtv-setup again
[08:56:00] cwsmith: k
[08:56:00] cwsmith: what am i looking for ?
[08:57:00] cwsmith: and should i re run it on both
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[08:57:00] mediasurf: run on master first setup cards and create sources and input connections
[08:57:00] cwsmith: k
[08:58:00] cwsmith: then slave and only setup card and input and link input to source on mas :)
[08:58:00] mediasurf: yes
[08:58:00] cwsmith: k then should i like reboot both boxes to be safe
[08:58:00] cwsmith: like turn off slave turn off mas
[08:58:00] mediasurf: then run mythfilldatabase on master
[08:58:00] cwsmith: k
[08:59:00] mediasurf: then restart backends on both and give it a shot no need to reboot
[08:59:00] cwsmith: k cool i will let ya know :)
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[09:04:00] cwsmith: ok now i am restarting backends then i will load mythfrontend and let ya know :)
[09:06:00] cwsmith: grr
[09:06:00] cwsmith: tuner 2 not available
[09:06:00] cwsmith: for 150mce should it be same card settings as the pvr250 or should it be like a standard v4l
[09:06:00] cwsmith: or whatever
[09:08:00] cwsmith: and now in backend log i am getting on slave access denied to mysql @ localhost is there a way to configure the slave machine so that service mysqld start connects to the masters sql ?
[09:11:00] cwsmith: ok got it but now i just get a black screen so i need to play with mythsetup for my 150mce :)
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[09:13:00] Musicman: is intel i586 or i686?
[09:13:00] cwsmith: umm i think its i686
[09:14:00] cwsmith: i have tried the pvr 250 mythsetup for 150mce
[09:14:00] cwsmith: and the standard video card and both are giving black screens :(
[09:17:00] Musicman: anyone stil here?
[09:18:00] cwsmith: i am
[09:18:00] cwsmith: trying to figure out
[09:18:00] cwsmith: correct settings for
[09:18:00] cwsmith: mce150
[09:18:00] cwsmith: in mythsetup
[09:18:00] cwsmith: use same as pvr250 ?
[09:18:00] Musicman: in capture card setup is mpeg-2 encode card (pvr-250, pvr-350) good for my pvr-150
[09:19:00] Musicman: actually its a pvr-500 but its based on the pvr-150 settings
[09:19:00] cwsmith: ya ok so use use the pvr250 for it :)
[09:19:00] cwsmith: also do i have to set up and nfs shares
[09:19:00] cwsmith: on slave
[09:20:00] cwsmith: so that i can see the same /video/recordings and /video/buffers on master
[09:20:00] Musicman: is the coaxil input composite or s-video?
[09:20:00] cwsmith: s-video
[09:23:00] cwsmith: so do i need to like symlink the direcotorys ?
[09:27:00] cwsmith: well not freezing anymore but now all i get is white screen ?
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[09:36:00] Musicman: what happens once my zap2it subscription runs out?
[09:37:00] Musicman: and where can i find what to put in channel frequency table
[09:41:00] Musicman: anyone here?
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[10:31:00] beavis: xris: thanks, I can switch languages now
[10:32:00] xris: beavis: heh, np. I forgot it was broken
[10:32:00] xris: sessions are now tied to your apache user login, too
[10:32:00] xris: (if you have one)
[10:33:00] beavis: yes, it works really great now
[10:33:00] beavis: the best mythweb ever ;)
[10:39:00] roalt: hi all
[10:47:00] xris: beavis: getting better.. will have custom search recording schedules done soon
[10:47:00] xris: but I need to sleep now. somehow it's 2 hours later than it should be.
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[10:56:00] asperon: hi, i am a total newbie to mythtv, and have just installed knopmyth on one of my boxes, but i need some help configuring it, anybody who'd like to help out?
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[10:59:00] _willcooke_: I'll try, but I can't promise anything
[11:00:00] asperon: _willcooke_: first out, xmltv seems to not like me, i selected sweden/norway, but i get an error message
[11:00:00] asperon: i was instructed to have a look in the terminal window
[11:00:00] asperon: so i tabbed over to it, and it says that it failed to get the content, am i missing something in the configuration?
[11:01:00] asperon: and as a side note, how do i minimise the xtermian using the keyboard <g>
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[11:02:00] _willcooke_: as for minimising the xterm, no idea. try running the tv_grab_???? from the command line, it might ask you to set up some things, or maybe there's a --configure switch?
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[11:02:00] asperon: ok, ill give that a shot
[11:04:00] asperon: _willcooke_: it says tv_grab<something> command not found
[11:04:00] _willcooke_: what is the tv_grab for your tv called?
[11:05:00] asperon: hard to say since i am running it on my tv, but it looks like _snc
[11:06:00] asperon: guessing sweden/norway something
[11:07:00] _willcooke_: just looking
[11:08:00] _willcooke_: try /usr/bin/tv_grab_se_swedb
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[11:14:00] asperon: _willcooke_: i used ctrl+alt+f1 to get a console, and ran tv_grab_se --configure, now i have set the channels i want
[11:14:00] asperon: first of all, how do i get back to x?
[11:16:00] roalt: Hi ! I'm setting up MythTV but it seems my PVR-350 tuner doesn't (want) to work
[11:20:00] roalt: hi
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[11:24:00] asperon: _willcooke_: i restarted the box and accepted the fact that xmltv didn't work, now i finished the backend install and the frontend is running, ill see if i can get this sorted now instead
[11:30:00] _willcooke_: asperon, sorry was away there. ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X.
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[11:40:00] asperon: _willcooke_: ok, now i got into the main screen, where i entered the program guide, to see if it had any data, but suddenly i was thrown to the grey backend stuff with the terminal, and now i cant seem to get back to the frontend window
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[11:42:00] _willcooke_: hmmm, sounds like X might have crashed!
[11:43:00] _willcooke_: or maybe just the front end.
[11:43:00] _willcooke_: Did you run mythfilldatabase already?
[11:44:00] asperon: i restarted x and got to log back into it
[11:44:00] asperon: no, not manually, i need to do that?
[11:45:00] _willcooke_: asperon, I think so. It certainly wont hurt
[11:45:00] _willcooke_: I think you need to run it once manually, then it takes over
[11:46:00] asperon: ok, just issue the command at the console?
[11:48:00] asperon: _willcooke_: when i run it it tries to access tv_grab_se a bunch, but fails, does this mean i should run it from /usr/bin ?
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[11:50:00] _willcooke_: what does it try to execute, perhaps you could create a link from /usr/bin/whatever/tv_grab to where it is looking for it
[11:50:00] asperon: _willcooke_: it seems to try to use tv_grab_sn and not tv_grab_se
[11:50:00] asperon: ill do a symlink
[11:51:00] asperon: that did the trick
[11:51:00] _willcooke_: :)
[11:51:00] asperon: now i got config file /root/.mythtv/KabelTV.xmltv does not exist, run me with --configure
[11:52:00] asperon: KabelTV is the name of my video source btw
[11:52:00] asperon: if that makes it any clearer
[11:52:00] _willcooke_: ok. erm.....
[11:52:00] _willcooke_: ok, I think you might have run tv_grab_whatever as a user other than root?
[11:53:00] asperon: aha
[11:53:00] asperon: config file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/KabelTV.xmltv does not exist, run me with --configure
[11:53:00] asperon: right, ill redo the tv_grab
[11:55:00] asperon: done that, still get the same error
[11:56:00] _willcooke_: who are you logged in as?
[11:56:00] asperon: should i just create and empty file named KabelTV.xmltv?
[11:56:00] asperon: mythtv
[11:57:00] _willcooke_: that xml file needs to list all the channels you want to get listings for, so a blank file won't really help.
[11:57:00] _willcooke_: whats in the .mythtv dir?
[11:58:00] asperon: ok, but i have selected the channels i wanted when i ran tv_grab_se --configure
[12:00:00] _willcooke_: there must be a .xmltv file somewhere! I dont understand why it's not creating it when you run --configure (as mythtv)
[12:01:00] asperon: it creates a /home/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_se.conf
[12:03:00] asperon: should i force it to save as KabelTV.xmltv?
[12:03:00] _willcooke_: just checking
[12:07:00] _willcooke_: OK, the .xmltv and .conf files are two very different things.
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[12:08:00] asperon: ok
[12:08:00] asperon: .xmltv is the datafile, or?
[12:08:00] reel: is anyone else still having problems with zap2it?
[12:08:00] _willcooke_: ok, so you have a .xmltv/whatever.conf right?
[12:08:00] _willcooke_: as the myth user this is
[12:09:00] asperon: yes
[12:09:00] _willcooke_: Ahhhh! I think I know what's going on, because you linked the tv grab to something else, it's probably looking for a different .conf file?
[12:09:00] _willcooke_: so in that .xmltv/xxxx.conf are listed all your channels?
[12:10:00] _willcooke_: try linking that .conf to the se or sn, or whatever way around it was
[12:12:00] asperon: yes, that file is named tv_grab_se.conf and is in that dir
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[12:12:00] asperon: so i symlink that to _sn then?
[12:12:00] _willcooke_: yeah, worth a try"!
[12:13:00] asperon: nogo, it sitll is looking for the config file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/KabelTV.xmltv file
[12:14:00] _willcooke_: what is "it" tv_grab --configure, or mythfilldatabase
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[12:14:00] _willcooke_: juski!
[12:14:00] asperon: mythfilldatabase
[12:14:00] Juski: hangover!
[12:14:00] Juski: morn... er afternoon _willcooke_
[12:15:00] _willcooke_: asperon, ok, run "tv_grab_whatever > .mythtv/KabelTV.xmltv"
[12:15:00] _willcooke_: Juski, feeling a bit rough? I am!
[12:15:00] Juski: been feeling a _bit_ rough since 5am
[12:15:00] _willcooke_: You were up til 5?
[12:16:00] Juski: nah
[12:16:00] asperon: _willcooke_: ok, done, it couldn't fetch one of the channels, but the rest worked it seemed, now i run mythfilldatabase?
[12:16:00] roalt: Hi there, My first IRC attempt... Can anyone see what I write?
[12:16:00] Juski: oh good my dbox has crashed. all I did was access it's damn web page
[12:16:00] Juski: roalt: nah can't see a thing
[12:16:00] _willcooke_: asperon, yeah go for it
[12:17:00] roalt: Juski:thanks
[12:17:00] asperon: _willcooke_: that gave me Unknown command <?xml in config-file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/KabelTV.xmltv at /usr/bin/tv_grab_sn line 563.
[12:18:00] _willcooke_: asperon, sorry, my fault. I think that .xmltv file should have just a list of channels in, not the tv listings
[12:19:00] asperon: _willcooke_: so the .xmltv file = the other config file?
[12:19:00] _willcooke_: asperon, so, tv_grab now grabs the listings, so I wonder how the .xmltv file is created. Hmmm.. mine just has "channel bbc1.bbc.co.uk" etc in
[12:19:00] ** Juski thinks "wow! rebooting the box from the webpage works.. should save a few trips downstairs" **
[12:20:00] _willcooke_: Juski, how do you generate the .mythtv/xxxxx.xmltv file
[12:20:00] Juski: _willcooke_: you can create it with <tvgrabber> --configure
[12:21:00] Juski: or you can make it yourself
[12:21:00] asperon: Juski: like tv_grab_se --configure should make it?
[12:22:00] _willcooke_: asperon, I guess we have to tell it where to create the file
[12:22:00] Juski: ermm it won't just make it for you... you'll have to tell it what channels you want, if it's anything like tv_grab_uk_rt
[12:22:00] Juski: that's a thing – what the hell has happened to tv_grab_uk_rt.. it's now just a bunch of yes/no questions.. very annoying
[12:22:00] asperon: _willcooke_: now when the file existed i think it worked
[12:23:00] roalt: Anyone with a tip to check that the PVR-350 tuner is working? xawtv does not seem to work
[12:23:00] asperon: i was wrong =(
[12:23:00] _willcooke_: roalt, sorry – never used one
[12:23:00] Juski: roalt: tune it to something & pipe /dev/video0 into a file or mplayer
[12:23:00] Juski: like _every_ mythtv howto says to do ;)
[12:24:00] roalt: I've got xorg running on the PVR-350 framebuffer. I assume I should stop that first then?
[12:24:00] Juski: nah
[12:24:00] Juski: it should be okay I'd have thought
[12:25:00] roalt: Ok, got mplayer running...
[12:25:00] asperon: _willcooke_: now my KabelTV.xmltv just contains the channel info, still i get the Unknown command <?xml in config-file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/KabelTV.xmltv at /usr/bin/tv_grab_sn line 563, even though it doesn't have a line 563
[12:25:00] Juski: infact you can probably use VLC to do it... last time I looked at it on a linux box it can work with mpeg encoding cards
[12:25:00] _willcooke_: asperon, :)
[12:25:00] Juski: asperon: do you have PERL installed?
[12:26:00] asperon: Juski: good questing, this is knopmyth right out of the box
[12:26:00] Juski: la la la la la la laaaaa
[12:26:00] asperon: apt-get install perl?
[12:27:00] Juski: you'd have thought that even not_myth would have all the pre-requisites
[12:27:00] asperon: it does have perl, i just checked
[12:27:00] ** _willcooke_ would have thought so **
[12:27:00] asperon: not the latest version thouhg
[12:27:00] ** Juski has just googled **
[12:27:00] roalt: juski: What's the best way to 'tune it to something' ?
[12:28:00] Juski: roalt: find a howto & read it ;-)
[12:28:00] Juski: rumour has it that Jarod's FC4 guide is pretty comprehensive
[12:29:00] Juski: and a lot of it is useful even if you don't use FC4
[12:29:00] Juski: asperon: tv_grab_sn is based on python as far as I can tell
[12:29:00] roalt: Yeah yeah, if you have troubles that google is so slow, it's probably because of me ;-)
[12:29:00] _willcooke_: asperon, so you've got a .mythtv/kabel.xmltv with a list of channels in now?
[12:30:00] asperon: _willcooke_: yes, an KabelTV.xmltv with the list of channels, in xml format
[12:30:00] _willcooke_: AHHHHHHHHH!!! Why is ctrl-w close a tab in firefox and search in nano!
[12:30:00] Juski: lol
[12:30:00] Juski: got me a few times, that
[12:30:00] asperon: it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/485211
[12:31:00] Juski: asperon: that doesn't look right
[12:31:00] _willcooke_: that's not right
[12:31:00] Juski: should be more of the format channelname channel's_xmltvid
[12:32:00] Juski: try http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/antenna.xmltv
[12:32:00] Juski: look quickly before I delete it ;)
[12:33:00] Juski: seen it yet?
[12:33:00] _willcooke_: asperon, delete that file and run mythtv-setup again
[12:33:00] Juski: gone!
[12:33:00] ** Juski puts the oven on **
[12:33:00] asperon: _willcooke_: ok
[12:34:00] roalt: ivtvctl -r <freq> did the trick...
[12:37:00] Juski: roalt: so it works? cool
[12:37:00] _willcooke_: Hmmm, no Christmas Lectures this year?
[12:38:00] Juski: yes there are
[12:38:00] _willcooke_: have I missed them?
[12:38:00] Juski: think so
[12:39:00] Juski: there were on channel4 again in the evening
[12:39:00] _willcooke_: evening? Ooo!
[12:39:00] Juski: about food & nutrition
[12:39:00] _willcooke_: I think I might be getting a bit old for them now anyway
[12:40:00] Juski: http://www.richristmaslectures.org/twri/
[12:40:00] Juski: nah they _used_ to be cool for all ages when they were on the BBC
[12:40:00] ** Juski misses Bryson **
[12:41:00] _willcooke_: It always used to be about space ships and stuff, now it's a bit dry
[12:42:00] Juski: no, it was always made _interesting_
[12:42:00] Juski: apart from when that cyborg nutter hosted a series
[12:42:00] _willcooke_: :)
[12:42:00] _willcooke_: Where's Jonny Ball when you need him
[12:42:00] Juski: hell yeah!
[12:44:00] Juski: think of a number
[12:44:00] Juski: then mutliply it by zero... that's the number of genuinely great factual TV programmes on these days
[12:44:00] _willcooke_: Adam Hart-Davies does a pretty good job
[12:45:00] Juski: not pseudo-scientificl scaremongering tabloid crap like Horizon now is
[12:45:00] Juski: aye you're not wrong there. easy to forget about him
[12:46:00] _willcooke_: Horizon did that bollocking "a dirty bomb has gone off in london" thing. What was the fucking point of that, other than to worry people
[12:46:00] Juski: heh. it's amazing, right.. since I installed the _right_ nvidia driver on my ubuntu box it comes up in the right screen rez
[12:46:00] _willcooke_: heh, that helps
[12:47:00] asperon: ok, i reran myth-setup, and now the grab_tv worked a bit better (since i did the synlink), but now after i have configured the channels i want (by answering the questions in the terminal window), how do i get back to myth (i dont have a mouse on this box)?
[12:47:00] _willcooke_: juski, are you using the rt listings? if so do you have itv4
[12:47:00] ** Juski has itv4 **
[12:47:00] _willcooke_: alt-tab?
[12:47:00] _willcooke_: ctrl-alt-f7?
[12:47:00] asperon: tried that, i only get a menu where i can select the xterm
[12:48:00] Juski: alt-tab should bring the setupmenu of myth back
[12:48:00] Juski: if you have a 'taskbar' you should still be able to see mythtv-setup on there
[12:48:00] Juski: unless you're not using a window manager, which could be tricky
[12:49:00] asperon: i can see it in the background, but the alt-tab just gives me a window where i can choose configuration:: wich is the xterm
[12:49:00] asperon: its fvwm
[12:49:00] Juski: quit out of the configuration thing then
[12:49:00] Juski: you should be taken back to mythtv-setup when its done
[12:50:00] Juski: if not, it'd be pretty safe to kill mythtv-setup & go back into it, now it'll have written the xmltv config file
[12:50:00] asperon: ok
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[12:51:00] _willcooke_: Juski, what about more4+1? do you get listings for that?
[12:52:00] Juski: yep
[12:53:00] _willcooke_: giz a look at your /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids
[12:53:00] Juski: more4.channel4.com:1959:More4 #more 4 ; itv4.itv.co.uk:1961:ITV4 #ITV4 ; sky3.sky.com:1963:Sky Three #Sky Three
[12:53:00] Juski: I did em before xmltv had em (he smarms)
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[12:54:00] _willcooke_: likewise, but I cant find more plus one on the radio times list, perhaps they dont carry a whole list, just +1 everything
[12:56:00] Juski: hmm maybe its not there then
[12:56:00] Juski: and I was confused :-/
[12:56:00] _willcooke_: Ahh, think I've found my itv4 problem, it wasnt in my radio times.xmltv file
[12:57:00] _willcooke_: asperon, how you getting on now?
[13:00:00] Juski: bah humbug. xmltv isn't working on my umbongo box
[13:00:00] Juski: and I sorta need program guide data to work on my theme
[13:01:00] _willcooke_: juski, xmltv is working on my umbungo box, whats the problem?
[13:02:00] _willcooke_: Yay! ITV4 listings, for all good it'll do me
[13:04:00] Juski: ah wait.. just left it running.. took an age but it worked
[13:04:00] Juski: (?)
[13:05:00] Juski: then again I have no idea how long it takes now – not seen a manual mythfilldatabase for maaaany moons
[13:05:00] _willcooke_: starting at nothing for all the freeview channels takes me about 15 mins
[13:05:00] _willcooke_: and update takes about 10 seconds
[13:06:00] Juski: kewl
[13:06:00] Juski: took the amount of time it takes me to go downstairs & put some empty bottles in the bin
[13:07:00] _willcooke_: right, I really ought to get dressed and take the dog out. Then try and sort myself out to start boozing again at about 7
[13:08:00] Juski: heheh
[13:08:00] ** _willcooke_ is showing off his Myth box tonight **
[13:08:00] ** Juski waits for the oven to reach 220'C **
[13:08:00] _willcooke_: pizza?
[13:08:00] Juski: nah vol-au-vents
[13:08:00] _willcooke_: OOoooooo! get you!
[13:08:00] Juski: gonna have prawn poisoning tomorrow :-D
[13:08:00] _willcooke_: not nice!
[13:08:00] _willcooke_: gave a good one if I dont speak to you before. laters
[13:09:00] Juski: aye you too, Will
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[13:15:00] asperon: _willcooke_: i realised that i was using an old version of mnopmyth, so i decided to restart with the latest (myth 18.2)
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[13:22:00] roalt: Hi all, a small update: I seem to have the same problem as another guy in Holland. We need to multiple the channels by 16 to get a right channel frequency...
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[13:37:00] Kel-kippin: afternoon all
[13:37:00] Kel-kippin is now known as Kelerion
[13:38:00] Kelerion: mythmusic is refusing to compile from latest svn
[13:38:00] Kelerion: fxied.. was aac breaking it I think
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[13:45:00] reel: YAY! zap2it gave me listings!
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[13:54:00] Juski: Kelerion: I've had aac problems, so I just dumped it
[13:55:00] ** Juski powers down the spare box.. it has a job to do tonight.. recording emmteevee **
[13:55:00] laga: it should be powered up then, shouldn't it?
[13:55:00] Juski: erm... not quite... gonna just shove a BTTV card into it
[13:56:00] laga: oh, ok
[13:56:00] Juski: this should be erm.. interesting
[13:56:00] laga: bttv. eeeks!
[13:56:00] Juski: well more cx88 actually
[13:56:00] laga: are they any better?
[13:56:00] Juski: eminem's last ever (!) gig live at 10pm tonight (allegedly)
[13:56:00] laga: eminem? gee. listen to some eal music ;)
[13:56:00] laga: real*
[13:57:00] Juski: pretty good... how well can an athlon 800 record TV? lol
[13:57:00] Kelerion: yeah.. I just dumped it too.. all compiled fine now :)
[13:57:00] Juski: it's _not_ for me
[13:57:00] malaTG: Hi everyone!
[13:57:00] malaTG: I found something and I don't know if it is a bug or what...........
[13:57:00] Juski: and it gives me an excuse to try this anyway. Hi malaTG
[13:57:00] laga: Juski: i'dn suggest you go with rtjpeg and transcode it later.
[13:57:00] reel: Juski: i have an 800 that plays recorded tv as a frontend only
[13:58:00] malaTG: I have configured myth so it uses my gamepad however when I exit a game it behaves starnage
[13:58:00] malaTG: strane*
[13:58:00] malaTG: as if it saved my buttonpresses
[13:58:00] Juski: that's my plan, laga.. gonna see how it goes
[13:58:00] malaTG: strange* :-)
[13:59:00] Juski: I can put the audio & video over some spare CAT5
[13:59:00] malaTG: bug or me? :-)
[13:59:00] Juski: malaTG: who knows
[13:59:00] malaTG: hehe ok I thoguht maybe someone else had configured a gamepad for myht
[14:00:00] malaTG: myth*
[14:00:00] malaTG:
[14:02:00] Juski: post a question on the users list first though I think
[14:03:00] malaTG: ok
[14:04:00] laga: hehe's been fixed in SVN
[14:04:00] malaTG: ok
[14:05:00] malaTG: I have to get the SVN soon I think a lot of fixes............
[14:06:00] laga: huh?
[14:06:00] laga: no!
[14:06:00] laga: i meant to write something else
[14:06:00] laga: half of my emssage is missing this is weird.
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[14:06:00] laga: i said you should check svn.mythtv.org before to see if it's been fixed
[14:06:00] malaTG: ok so it wasn't ment for me?
[14:06:00] laga: and that i've seen this issue mentioned before
[14:06:00] malaTG: ok
[14:06:00] laga: it was meant for you :)
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[14:07:00] malaTG: hmmm I am a bit of today I think and the new year hasn't even begun..........
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[14:08:00] Juski: this should be interesting....
[14:09:00] Juski: oh come _on_ xmltv grabber.. hurry up!
[14:10:00] laga: maybe you can tell it to only grab one day
[14:10:00] laga: or only listings for mtv
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[14:12:00] Juski: I have static :)
[14:12:00] asperon: i just did a reinstall of myth (using knopmyth), and this time everything seems to have worked as intended, apart from the graphics, from what i can tell it is showing my screen in NTSC while my tv uses PAL, how do i fix this?
[14:15:00] Juski: wow that was a bit erm.. easy
[14:15:00] Juski: asperon: probably something in your xorg.conf relating to the TV out of your graphics card
[14:17:00] asperon: Juski: ok, i an a total noob to myth, so if you dont mind giving me some guidance ill try to get it sorted
[14:17:00] asperon: is my xorg.conf in /etc?
[14:18:00] asperon: thing is that the boot is in PAL, so is the boot splash, so a good guess is that its x that switches to ntsc
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[14:20:00] Juski: asperon: you need to look inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:20:00] Juski: pop it into a pastebin & I'll have a look for you
[14:22:00] asperon: ok, idont have a xorg.conf =(
[14:22:00] asperon: i have a XF86Config thugh
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[14:22:00] asperon: guess that means knoppix is using xfree and not xorg
[14:24:00] asperon: Juski: http://pastebin.com/485327
[14:25:00] asperon: strange, i have a cle266 gfx card, and the old version detected it, but here it hasn't, or am i missreading the file?
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[14:27:00] Juski: eew.. xfree86? when was that un-deprecated?
[14:27:00] Juski: cle266 – who is that made by?
[14:28:00] asperon: dono, it came with the latest knoppmyth
[14:28:00] asperon: thats a via chipset
[14:28:00] Juski: doh that's the same controller as my frontend I think
[14:28:00] asperon: i started by chaning the refresh rates, lets see if that helps
[14:29:00] Juski: no that won't help
[14:29:00] asperon: its a hush mini-itx
[14:29:00] asperon: ok
[14:29:00] Juski: I'll put my xorg.conf into a pastebin – that'll give you some hints
[14:30:00] asperon: great
[14:30:00] Juski: http://pastebin.com/485339
[14:31:00] asperon: thnx
[14:32:00] Juski: X configging can seem daunting to noobs ;)
[14:32:00] asperon: its is =), think i should give it a try?
[14:33:00] Juski: maybe not the whole file
[14:33:00] asperon: is there anyway to get it to probe for my hardware?
[14:36:00] Juski: there is in the newer X server
[14:36:00] Juski: dunno about xf86
[14:37:00] asperon: whats it named?
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[14:39:00] Juski: xconfigure or something
[14:39:00] Juski: ahh yeh.. xf86 configure
[14:39:00] Juski: I have a feeling though, that you'll be needing the via MPEG decoder stuff, and I dunno if that's in not_myth
[14:40:00] asperon: strange thing is, the old release i tried it worked out of the box
[14:40:00] Juski: oh well
[14:41:00] Juski: so er.. why upgrade? ;)
[14:41:00] asperon: i found a XFconfig thast was named .epim.tv-out, that gave a stable image, no colours though
[14:41:00] asperon: since nothing else worked =)
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[14:45:00] Juski: probably the wrong tv-standard
[14:46:00] asperon: yes, thats what i am saying, its probably NTSC when it should be PAL
[14:47:00] Juski: so go into the conf file & look for NTSC or 'standard'
[14:47:00] Kelerion: just added it up.. 30 people in UK have mythtv according to frappr.. thats not a whole lot
[14:47:00] Juski: who cares about frappr?
[14:48:00] Kelerion: me.. it's a cool project.. lol
[14:48:00] Juski: that said, I'm on there I think
[14:48:00] Kelerion: yup
[14:49:00] Juski: ugh! how bad is analog capturing? looks almost as bad as VHS!!!!
[14:50:00] Juski: sod that, then
[14:50:00] Beirdo: according to frappr, only 30 people care enough about frappr in the UK to bother adding themselves... that use MythTV
[14:50:00] Beirdo: hardly a useful commentary
[14:50:00] Kelerion: I asked that yesterday.. was it just my experiences or could it be made better with good cables
[14:50:00] Juski: it might look okay on a telly though
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[14:51:00] Beirdo: well, the TV is the whole purpose, generally :)
[14:51:00] Juski: been using my xbox to test it with.. looks awfully washed out, and lacking in colour
[14:51:00] tanq_: man your xorg.conf is way neater than man
[14:51:00] tanq_: s/man/mine
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[14:51:00] Juski: and speckly
[14:51:00] Beirdo: you need a better signal :)
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[14:51:00] Juski: heh
[14:51:00] Juski: sounds good though
[14:51:00] Juski: :-/
[14:52:00] Beirdo: gooood
[14:52:00] Beirdo: oy
[14:52:00] Beirdo: I'm still tired
[14:52:00] Juski: at 480x480, default quality settings, its jerky too. still better than windows could do on 800mhz tho I bet
[14:53:00] Beirdo: what kinda capture?
[14:53:00] Juski: rtjpeg
[14:53:00] Beirdo: ewww
[14:54:00] Beirdo: :)
[14:54:00] Beirdo: should drop a PVR250 in there
[14:54:00] Beirdo: :)
[14:54:00] Juski: if I had one I would
[14:54:00] Beirdo: go forth and spend
[14:54:00] Juski: I could always try to get the dbox to record direct to HDD
[14:55:00] Juski: better than doing nothing
[14:55:00] Beirdo: after all, yer a Brit, not a Scot, right?
[14:55:00] Beirdo: hehe
[14:55:00] Kelerion: I have one and the picture difference is amazing.. but if my aver card had a better picture I'd use that.. so I could use the digital input from my sat box
[14:55:00] Juski: I'm english, thanks
[14:55:00] Beirdo: hehe :)
[14:56:00] Beirdo: well, its the Scotsmen that are known for being frugal, shall we say :)
[14:56:00] Beirdo: I'm just kidding ya
[14:56:00] Juski: yeh I know
[14:56:00] Juski: you don't become a moneybags by spending ;)
[14:56:00] tanq: what is dri for again
[14:56:00] Beirdo: that's right, Scrooge McJuski :)
[14:56:00] Beirdo: heh
[14:56:00] Juski: direct rendering interface.. for 3d n stuff iirc
[14:56:00] Beirdo: I think I need coffee
[14:57:00] Beirdo: and I need to gather up some stuff
[14:58:00] Beirdo: but yeah, rtjpeg often tends to look washed out. I'm not sure as to why
[14:59:00] Beirdo: but as you said, likely better than Windows could do with a relatively anemic processor for video processing
[15:00:00] Kelerion: Bruce suggested some changes to the filter for bttv cards one..
[15:00:00] Kelerion: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ilter;#68917
[15:00:00] Kelerion: could try that
[15:00:00] Juski: just set up another nfs share for the tuxbox beastie
[15:01:00] ** Juski goes to configure the beastie to see if it'll mount **
[15:01:00] Beirdo: hhehhe
[15:01:00] Beirdo: mount and beastie should rarely be in the same sentence
[15:01:00] Beirdo: NFS makes life so much easier
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[15:02:00] Beirdo: well, I should be off for some coffee
[15:02:00] Beirdo: TTYL
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[15:04:00] tanq: can the myth music plugin show full cddb info?
[15:04:00] tanq: like album cover year published etc...
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[15:08:00] Juski: it mounted
[15:08:00] Juski: then it crashed – yay! same old shit
[15:12:00] Juski: tanq: it uses CDDB, but as far as I know doesn't download the covers
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[15:17:00] tanq: bah..
[15:17:00] tanq: well as far as i can tell it just show the file name that I have
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[15:17:00] tanq: i don't even see cddb related files in the ~/.myth directory
[15:20:00] Juski: so erm... how does my mythbox 'know' the artist/title of a CD I shove in?
[15:20:00] Juski: haha: http://www.ishkur.com/articles/trancecracker.php
[15:21:00] tanq: i thought it just displayed the file paths.. i havent tried a cd..
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[15:40:00] Kelerion: I thought myth changed channel by freqid..
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[15:52:00] GreyFoxx: Kelerion: and ....
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[15:53:00] Kelerion: its ok.. am prolly just reading it wrong.. it's saying "started recording: blah: channel 1136 on cardid 1".. but 1136 is the channum field.. was expecting it to tell me the freqid instead
[15:53:00] GreyFoxx: the channum is more meaningful to users than a frequency would be :)
[15:54:00] Kelerion: yup.. can understand that
[15:56:00] Kelerion: except when your using freqid as a channel number to an external changer.. because 1136 (on my backend here) is channel 346.. just everything switched around when you have an external channel changer :)
[15:58:00] GreyFoxx: all of my external changers have just used the channum (IR blasters) :)
[15:59:00] Kelerion: does your xmltv grabber put the right channum fields that correspond to the actual channel numbers from your provider then?
[16:00:00] GreyFoxx: I use zap2it, not an xmltv grabber
[16:00:00] GreyFoxx: and back when I used one it did map it correctly
[16:00:00] Kelerion: thats probably the difference then.. because the UK one doesn't.. just starts at 1000, 1001, 1002 etc.. so I have to go through and set all the freqid's for each indivual channel whenever I reinstall
[16:01:00] GreyFoxx: or you could just dump the info to a file and pump it back in :)
[16:01:00] Kelerion: I presume it'd work if I was using dvb though
[16:01:00] Kelerion: the actual channels aren't downloaded anywhere.. for any field
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[16:02:00] darkdrgn2k: Any one ever get a Live Drive to work with LIRC?? im having some trouble
[16:03:00] Kelerion: there we go.. all sorted.. switching channels right now :)
[16:04:00] darkdrgn2k: any one know anythgin about live drive :-S
[16:04:00] darkdrgn2k: or at least what kinda signals LIRCD wants to read from a device?
[16:06:00] darkdrgn2k: LMAO:
[16:06:00] darkdrgn2k: <Amy3> WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING AT ME AND INSULTING ME BY SAYING STOP YELLING? I MEAN I AM NOT YELLING AND THEN THEY TELL ME TO READ THE fag! What Gives?
[16:06:00] darkdrgn2k: *** Ham has kicked Amy3 from #linux (yelling.. and don't read fags)
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[16:20:00] tanq: hmm.. any idea why mythtv isnt spawning mplayer to play my mpegs and vobs?
[16:27:00] Kabutor: tanq, and from a console mplayer plays them?
[16:27:00] Kabutor: manually launching mplayer I mean
[16:27:00] tanq: Kabutor: yeah
[16:27:00] tanq: in myth i went real simple and just did mplayer -fs %s
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[16:28:00] Kabutor: you tried that as the same user running the mythtv?
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[16:44:00] Shadowpillar: does a tv card *NEED* mpeg encoding to simply view tv?
[16:44:00] Shadowpillar: (eg, viewing it in tvtime and whatnot)
[16:45:00] Beirdo: if you want to simply view TV, you are not likely to want to use mythtv
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[16:45:00] Beirdo: and tvtime doesn't work with MPEG encoding cards last I heard
[16:45:00] Shadowpillar: I know, I came here as people here seem to know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to tv cards
[16:45:00] Shadowpillar: I do have a pvr card
[16:46:00] Shadowpillar: just, my hardware doesn't like it
[16:46:00] ** Juski pipes in that VLC works with PVR cards **
[16:46:00] Shadowpillar: and I cant use it to view my gamecube's output since it encodes and decodes, thus creating horrible lag
[16:46:00] Beirdo: yeah, use a frame grabber if you wanna do that
[16:46:00] Juski: Shadowpillar: so buy a cheap framegrabber card
[16:47:00] Shadowpillar: juski, are saa7134 based cards any good?
[16:47:00] Juski: no idea
[16:47:00] Shadowpillar: I know they're supported pretty well
[16:47:00] Shadowpillar: and they dont have an mpeg II encoder on the chip
[16:47:00] Shadowpillar: er
[16:48:00] Shadowpillar: card
[16:48:00] Juski: so ask yourself.. do you want great quality recordings with minimal CPU usage or do you want 'real' live TV?
[16:49:00] Shadowpillar: minimal cpu usage and I'm looking for something that I can see my gamecube on
[16:49:00] Shadowpillar: without lag
[16:49:00] Juski: oo both.. :-P
[16:49:00] Beirdo: hehe
[16:49:00] sportman|sleep: lol
[16:49:00] Juski: well you can't have both
[16:49:00] sportman|sleep: i think your asking alot
[16:49:00] Juski: one or the other
[16:49:00] Shadowpillar: ....
[16:50:00] sportman|sleep: get two pieces of hardware
[16:50:00] Shadowpillar: ?
[16:50:00] GreyFoxx: sure he can
[16:50:00] sportman|sleep: :-p
[16:50:00] Shadowpillar: wait a minute
[16:50:00] Beirdo: well, using tvtime, the framegrabbers don't take much CPU
[16:50:00] Shadowpillar: I just want a simple framegrabber card
[16:50:00] GreyFoxx: use the pvr for recordings and setup the framegrabber for the gamecube only ande add a menu item to launch tvtime/xawtv for that
[16:50:00] Juski: the PVR250 has a framegrabber device
[16:50:00] Juski: (I think)
[16:50:00] Shadowpillar: I have the 150
[16:50:00] Juski: maybe the PVR150 does too
[16:50:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: you can pull the raw data
[16:50:00] GreyFoxx: but nothing supports it
[16:51:00] Cromz: ugh. did they change the way to launch a script? in the xml.. <action>EXEC /path/to/script.sh</action> doesn't seem to work. unless I'm doing it wrong. heh
[16:51:00] Shadowpillar: just that this whole problem I have has been from people misleading me, I just wanna know what works best as tv cards arent my area of expertise
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[16:52:00] defi__: is /mnt/store the default storage spot for all recordings
[16:53:00] GreyFoxx: defi__: I think so
[16:53:00] Juski: my PVR2000 card works great as a framegrabber but I can't grab mpeg video _and_ audio
[16:53:00] Shadowpillar: I'm tempted to just hold on to my pvr card for the future when I get a newer comp so I can do recordings
[16:53:00] Shadowpillar: Juski: and do all tv cards send mpeg data?
[16:53:00] GreyFoxx: no
[16:53:00] Juski: well I say 'great'... it's shit.. I mean it _works_
[16:53:00] Shadowpillar: because this one dude keeps telling me all tv cards need some sort of mpeg decoder
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[16:54:00] Beirdo: ignore him
[16:54:00] GreyFoxx: then that "one dude" is an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about
[16:54:00] Juski: Shadowpillar: only cards with mpeg encoders on (mainly made by hauppauge) work in linux encode mpeg in real time
[16:54:00] Beirdo: almost none have a decoder at all :)
[16:54:00] defi__: GreyFoxx, thx I changed that in my setup but the backend is complaining there isnt a file there
[16:54:00] Shadowpillar: the decoding is on the system, I know
[16:54:00] Juski: the rest of them just dump video data, uncompressed, onto the PCI bus
[16:55:00] GreyFoxx: most tuners out there don't have an mpeg encoder.
[16:55:00] Shadowpillar: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815123001 <-- so is this a good framegrabber?
[16:55:00] GreyFoxx: It's only in the last couple years that they have been adding mpeg2/4 encoders
[16:56:00] GreyFoxx: defi__: Verify that it's changed and of course restart mythbackend
[16:57:00] Shadowpillar: I might keep the current card and grab that as well, so I have two cards, one for casual tv viewing, one for hardcore recording (will be very useful when I get a dvd burner and need to transfer some home movies to dvd)
[16:57:00] Shadowpillar: though I bet the tapes will outlast the dvd media :P
[16:57:00] sportman|sleep: what is the cheapest tv capture card I could use with mythtv
[16:57:00] sportman|sleep: .
[16:58:00] Shadowpillar: sportman|sleep: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815123001 this looks like it might be good
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[16:58:00] GreyFoxx: sportmankid: Any v4l/bttv card or ivtv supported card will work
[16:58:00] sportmankid: nice
[16:58:00] sportmankid: hmm
[16:58:00] sportmankid: i think i like that one
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[16:59:00] GreyFoxx: though keep in mind that the cheaper the card (framegrabbers) the more CPU required for recording
[16:59:00] sportmankid: k
[16:59:00] sportmankid: well im still thinking it over
[16:59:00] sportmankid: i have been bugging my parents to get a damn firewire cable
[17:00:00] sportmankid: cause my box has firewire out
[17:00:00] sportmankid: i wanted to see if it works
[17:00:00] GreyFoxx: the pvr cards ($60 USD or so) require 0% cpu to record
[17:00:00] sportmankid: but they wont take me out to get the cable and our box just broke
[17:00:00] phubuh: there's some funky escape characters in your text, sportmankid
[17:00:00] sportmankid: so might have to wait another 3 days
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[17:00:00] sportmankid: there are?
[17:00:00] sportmankid: how so
[17:00:00] sportmankid: not on mine
[17:00:00] sportmankid: ?
[17:01:00] sportmankid: paste back what you mean, I am not typing with any characters
[17:01:00] Shadowpillar: GreyFoxx: saa7134 cards seem to work as well, they're under v4l
[17:02:00] GreyFoxx: sportmankid: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/moo.jpg
[17:03:00] sportmankid: wow that sucks
[17:03:00] sportmankid: let me try a different irc client
[17:03:00] sportmankid: sorry
[17:03:00] Beirdo: how odd
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[17:08:00] jnunez: Q: I have a PVR-150 and can't get the IR Blaster to work. The system recognized the RX and TX and the receiver works but I can get the transmitter to light up(checking via Night Vision feature on camcorder)
[17:10:00] _willcooke_: Hmmm, new and exciting bug!
[17:10:00] jnunez: ...I can't///
[17:10:00] Shadowpillar: on the 150 card, what is the little row of pins for?
[17:10:00] Shadowpillar: what is it a connector for?
[17:10:00] jnunez: Not sure...
[17:11:00] _willcooke_: I ran setup on the master backend and edited all the channels to add icons (path /myth/icons/tv/xxxx), when I run the front end on this machine lots of errors on the back end trying to load the icons, from /myth/xxxx.
[17:11:00] jnunez: I know the MCE version has FM so maybe that would be for a FM board
[17:11:00] _willcooke_: surely the icon location is global?
[17:12:00] Shadowpillar: I have the MCE version
[17:13:00] Juski: _willcooke_: I think you'd have to have shared & mounted the icons directory ;)
[17:14:00] _willcooke_: Juski, it seems to be sending them over the wire now, since it's not shared, but if I copy an icon from the CORRECT location to where it's looking for it, the icon appears on the channel guide
[17:15:00] _willcooke_: it's like this frontend has some path embeded in it
[17:15:00] _willcooke_: which is being sent to the BE
[17:15:00] Juski: it'd be no big deal to have the icons splatterred all over the show though
[17:15:00] _willcooke_: Juski, That's not the point! :)
[17:15:00] Juski: the icon path is just local to the backend
[17:16:00] Juski: and if you want to see it on the frontend, the icons need to live in the same place
[17:16:00] _willcooke_: Yeah, that's what I thought!!
[17:16:00] Juski: like I never see icons on my frontend coz it has no /usr/share/mythtv/icons
[17:16:00] _willcooke_: Check this... in the channel editor... icon for bbc2 ... /myth/icons/tv/bbc2.png
[17:16:00] darkdrgn2k: Any one ever get a Live Drive to work with LIRC?? im having some trouble
[17:17:00] _willcooke_: running a FE on the MBE, all icons in the guide. Good.
[17:17:00] _willcooke_: The I run a FE on this box and the back end reports....
[17:17:00] _willcooke_: Could not open /myth/bbc2.png
[17:17:00] Juski: darkdrgn2k: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php? . . . orum_id=5339
[17:18:00] Juski: _willcooke_: weird
[17:18:00] _willcooke_: Juski, :)
[17:18:00] _willcooke_: Juski, Thats what I thought
[17:18:00] _willcooke_: Juski, my guess is that theres a path prefix somewhere
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[17:18:00] Juski: considering using livetv tonight to watch Jools.. that twat James Blunt is on
[17:18:00] darkdrgn2k: Juski: i did that, but i cant find the /dev/snd/midc0d1 that thye want.. only d0
[17:19:00] sportmankid: does myth tv work on freebsd
[17:20:00] Juski: darkdrgn2k: I'm no help then.. last soundblaster item I bought was a plain old live card & I won't be buying any other stuff of theirs
[17:20:00] Juski: mythtv works on linux. freebsd != linux
[17:20:00] sportmankid: lol
[17:20:00] sportmankid: :-p
[17:21:00] Juski: I heard it can work, but it's a royal pain in the butt
[17:21:00] _willcooke_: Ok, so the sql db is correct : /myth/icons/tv/bbc1.png
[17:21:00] sportmankid: i wish i could get more then the damn frontend to compile on mac osx
[17:21:00] sportmankid: :(
[17:21:00] darkdrgn2k: i got liveird to work with it.. just note lircd
[17:21:00] Beirdo: freebsd? hehehe
[17:21:00] Juski: _willcooke_ just symlink it
[17:21:00] _willcooke_: Juski, but I don't want to!
[17:22:00] _willcooke_: Juski, its a bug, and I'm damn well gonna find it! :)
[17:22:00] ** Juski is gonna smash that goddam DAB radio in the kitchen if he hears any more of Planet (fucking) Rawk **
[17:22:00] sportmankid: why are you laughing at freebsd Beirdo
[17:22:00] Beirdo: because.
[17:23:00] Beirdo: freebsd is a joke to me :)
[17:23:00] _willcooke_: Juski, Ha! My Mrs is always listening to that
[17:23:00] ** Juski doesn't mind it so much when they don't play that prog. shite **
[17:23:00] _willcooke_: :)
[17:24:00] Juski: drum solos, yeah... extended 30 minute moog solos.. NO
[17:24:00] _willcooke_: ha
[17:24:00] Beirdo: hehehe
[17:24:00] sportmankid: I dont get it, how is it a joke?
[17:24:00] Beirdo: never mind, sportmankid
[17:24:00] Krazylegz: Did that guy ever change his oil?
[17:25:00] GreyFoxx: as of 0.18 mythtv has some freebsd support, not sure how complete it was or if latest svn still compiles and works under it
[17:25:00] phatmonkey^iBook: sportmankid: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx ?
[17:25:00] sportmankid: yea
[17:25:00] sportmankid: i know :)
[17:25:00] phatmonkey^iBook: works great for me
[17:25:00] sportmankid: the think is only the frontend runs
[17:25:00] sportmankid: right?
[17:25:00] phatmonkey^iBook: yep
[17:25:00] sportmankid: yea
[17:26:00] sportmankid: i want the whole thing on one computer
[17:26:00] GreyFoxx: I'm not sure, support was being added for the freebsd driver for the povr cards
[17:26:00] phatmonkey^iBook: "i wish i could get more then the damn frontend to compile on mac osx"
[17:26:00] GreyFoxx: no idea how far it got
[17:26:00] Beirdo: then you'd better run Linux
[17:26:00] phatmonkey^iBook: yeah
[17:26:00] phatmonkey^iBook: do you need the mac for other things?
[17:26:00] darkdrgn2k: how can you check the version of a module
[17:26:00] phatmonkey^iBook: you could just stick linux on it
[17:26:00] sportmankid: yea, meh
[17:26:00] sportmankid: hmm, well i wanted to use knoppmyth on the pc i am on now
[17:27:00] sportmankid: but the thing is it screwed up my partitions
[17:27:00] sportmankid: and my mbr
[17:27:00] Shadowpillar: I'd like to eventually get a mini-itx system and build a pvr, still would be cheaper than a tivo
[17:27:00] sportmankid: i had to tamper with it for a while just to get my windows partition to work again
[17:27:00] darkdrgn2k: whats with teh  everywhere sportmankid!
[17:27:00] sportmankid: its my damn os, irc keeps doing this
[17:27:00] sportmankid: :(
[17:28:00] GreyFoxx: the n unload the script or get a new client :)
[17:28:00] sportmankid: it is not a script
[17:29:00] GreyFoxx: then the latter suggestion still applies
[17:29:00] sportmankid: about to try that
[17:30:00] sportmankid: brb
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[17:33:00] Juski: what's with the  anyway?
[17:34:00] Beirdo: watching TV at 1.2x rules
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[17:34:00] sportman: how about now?
[17:34:00] sportman: characters still messed up?
[17:34:00] ** sportman moves through pile of cds and dvds **
[17:35:00] sportman: so much for freebsd :(
[17:35:00] dave__: I think im getting it guys, ive managed to supress the "fresh install" approach to problems and work them out
[17:35:00] sportman: :)
[17:36:00] darkdrgn2k: any one know anythign ablir liveird
[17:36:00] darkdrgn2k: about
[17:36:00] sportman: what distro then?
[17:37:00] ** sportman finds ubuntu (bleh god no) **
[17:38:00] sportman: xbox damn small linux, no
[17:38:00] sportman: damn i got all my xbox cds messed with my regular linux ones
[17:39:00] _willcooke_: looks like that error can only be generated in the ringbuffer code, so gawd knows why its trying to open icons
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[17:40:00] sportman: linspire
[17:40:00] ** Juski chuckles **
[17:40:00] sportman: im thinking overclockix install
[17:40:00] sportman: maybee
[17:40:00] BloodHawk: If I want to use both ATSC and NTSC via a Fusion5HDTV, do I need to add it as two separate capture cards?
[17:41:00] Juski: what's wrong with umbongo anyway?
[17:41:00] sportman: i hate ubuntu
[17:41:00] sportman: it breaks to often
[17:41:00] Juski: Bloodhawk: yup
[17:41:00] sportman: and limits me whenever i try to install something
[17:41:00] Juski: good luck with freeBSD (uptime is God) then
[17:41:00] sportman: nah
[17:42:00] BloodHawk: and two sets of channel guides/inputs?
[17:42:00] sportman: imthinking over overclockix (knoppix on steroids)
[17:42:00] sportman: but i dunno
[17:42:00] sportman: i do like the uptime of freebsd
[17:43:00] sportman: id try gentoo
[17:43:00] sportman: but i have failed at that numerous times
[17:43:00] BloodHawk: .. :P
[17:43:00] _willcooke_: how can you say umbongo breaks too often? It only changes every 6 months
[17:43:00] Juski: BloodHawk: yep again.. if they were independent you could use the same source
[17:43:00] BloodHawk: sounds like the problems you're experiencing may not be entirely related to the distro, then. :P
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: Just use whatever you are most familiar with
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[17:44:00] Juski: sportman: I managed to set up mythtv on gentoo & I was a noob
[17:44:00] Beirdo: sportman, the "uptime of freebsd?" Jeez, I have Linux boxes that regularly get uptime > 1 year
[17:44:00] Juski: still works, too
[17:44:00] BloodHawk: using mythtv on latest dapper drake amd64 ubuntu here..
[17:44:00] ** _willcooke_ installed SVN MythTV on umbongo and he is dangerously unskilled **
[17:45:00] Beirdo: and one of the Solaris boxes at work had an uptime of 1200 days when some retard flipped off the power
[17:45:00] _willcooke_: BloodHawk, no dvb cards then?!
[17:45:00] BloodHawk: hmm?
[17:45:00] dave__: In a table there are rows and columns what are the values in each row called?
[17:46:00] GreyFoxx: values ?
[17:46:00] Juski: fields
[17:46:00] dave__: so I can manually alter those right?
[17:46:00] BloodHawk: will: who, me? I'm using a fusion5 gold..
[17:47:00] BloodHawk: worked out of the box with 2.6.15–9 here
[17:47:00] Juski: dave__: at your own risk ;-)
[17:47:00] _willcooke_: but, being a table the values in each row, and usually in each column too. Do you mean the headers of each row?
[17:47:00] dave__: with something like: alter settings value = 'something' data = 'something';
[17:47:00] tanq: does anyone know how to get the interlaced lines out of vobs when playing via mplayer in myth?
[17:47:00] sportman: what is fusion5 gold
[17:47:00] sportman: ?
[17:47:00] tanq: noone is answering in #mplayer ..
[17:48:00] tanq: :/
[17:48:00] Beirdo: tanq: man mplayer maybe
[17:48:00] Juski: daddy SQL said to kid SQL.. "I remember when all this was fields".. boom boom tish!
[17:49:00] _willcooke_: tanq, "mplayer -vf help"
[17:49:00] sportman: im thinking overclockix
[17:49:00] BloodHawk: http://www.dvico.com/
[17:51:00] tanq: hmm
[17:53:00] sportman: thats nice
[17:53:00] sportman: how much
[17:55:00] BloodHawk: I think $100 for the HD-only version (Lite), and $150 for the HD and analog version. (Gold).
[17:59:00] sportman: damn thats good
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[18:01:00] Juski: pity you can't use both parts at once though
[18:01:00] nik0z: after a reboot live tv is super choppy and i don't have sound. i see a bunch of messages saying "couldn't allocate warped audio buffer" and "prebuffering pause". i tried enabling aggressive audio buffering and that did not help. the cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg test works just fine, i have video and sound. what might be wrong here?
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[18:03:00] sportman: hmm, now the hdtv thing i dont comprehend
[18:03:00] BloodHawk: Juski – should the second card that I add be another DVB card? It seems to only be detected as Single Input with Default Input stuck to "DVBInput"
[18:03:00] sportman: it will record from like an hdtv box?
[18:03:00] sportman: in hd
[18:03:00] sportman: or it will tune to analog stations and pull the hd content
[18:03:00] sportman: from it?
[18:03:00] sportman: like how some tvs have hd built in or just plain hdreadyt
[18:03:00] sportman: *ready
[18:04:00] BloodHawk: you can tune OTA HD and unencrypted QAM (HD-over-cable)
[18:04:00] BloodHawk: I have basic cable here..
[18:04:00] BloodHawk: but they still push the unencrypted HD signals for the local network stations.
[18:04:00] sportman: so id get hd for the local stations
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[18:04:00] sportman: most likely?
[18:05:00] BloodHawk: yeah, that's probably all you would get--unless your cable company decides not to encrypt others too (some don't encrypt ESPNHD) — but that's unlikely. you'd have to research first.
[18:05:00] sportman: ok
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[18:05:00] sportman: thats not a bad device
[18:06:00] sportman: now what if i did use the firewire out from my hd box, will i be able to capture hd using firewire and myth tv
[18:06:00] BloodHawk: if you had firewire, you wouldn't need this card
[18:06:00] sportman: ok, yea i figured
[18:06:00] sportman: but my parents wont let me get the firewire cable
[18:06:00] sportman: i should have htem take me now
[18:06:00] sportman: ill demand them to
[18:07:00] linagee: sportman: your parents won't let you get a firewire cable??
[18:07:00] linagee: sportman: how old are you
[18:07:00] sportman: 16
[18:07:00] sportman: well they wont take me to get it
[18:07:00] linagee: sportman: steal a car. lol
[18:07:00] BloodHawk: why can't you do it over the phone?
[18:08:00] linagee: BloodHawk: or outpost.com. lol
[18:08:00] BloodHawk: oh, you mean just the cable itself?
[18:08:00] linagee: sportman: go to outpost.com and have it delivered
[18:08:00] sportman: we just got the box like 2 days ago switched from analog to hd cable and my parents keep saying "lets get it set up right then we can get the firewire"
[18:08:00] darkdrgn2k: what is the drawbak in running a card in VESA mode?
[18:08:00] darkdrgn2k: more cpu ussage?
[18:08:00] linagee: sportman: they're trying to drive you crazy by testing your patience
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[18:12:00] Beirdo: if you've only had the box 2 days, just calm your self and wait
[18:12:00] linagee: Beirdo: or go to newegg and tell them you want overnight service. :)
[18:13:00] linagee: $50 in shipping for a $5 cable. hehehe
[18:13:00] Beirdo: with what credit card is a 16yr-old supposed to do that anyways?
[18:13:00] Beirdo: jeez
[18:13:00] BloodHawk: www.monoprice.com
[18:13:00] linagee: Beirdo: parent's credit card! :)
[18:13:00] Beirdo: patience is a good thing to learn
[18:14:00] linagee: Beirdo: sign up for a credit card from those junk mailers. :)
[18:14:00] Cromz: ok xml? anyone? it's a x10 to mythtv intergration :) http://pastebin.ca/35392 the leading < didnt' get copied to paste.
[18:14:00] linagee: Beirdo: i just got cable and absolutely refused to give them my SS#. nobody is required to give that out except to the Social Security Administration.
[18:15:00] Beirdo: good for you :)
[18:15:00] Beirdo: or to your employer
[18:16:00] linagee: that too, so they can charge you for social security appropriately. hah
[18:16:00] linagee: Beirdo: time to do your taxes! rofl
[18:16:00] Beirdo: meh
[18:16:00] linagee: Beirdo: let me guess, "i'll wait until the day before" :)
[18:16:00] Beirdo: meh
[18:16:00] Beirdo: it's not due till April for God's sakes
[18:17:00] linagee: Beirdo: shoot! today is the last day to write out donations and have it count! fsck! :)
[18:17:00] ** linagee gets out his checkbook. :) **
[18:17:00] Beirdo: go change yer oil :)
[18:17:00] linagee: ?
[18:17:00] linagee: Beirdo: i don't have a car lift
[18:17:00] linagee: Beirdo: how do you take the underplate off without one
[18:18:00] sportman: Beirdo i got a credit card
[18:18:00] sportman: :-p
[18:18:00] linagee: sportman: at how old? :)
[18:18:00] sportman: 16
[18:18:00] sportman: its not credit
[18:18:00] sportman: its like a debit
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[18:18:00] sportman: linked to a bank account
[18:18:00] linagee: sportman: hahahah
[18:18:00] sportman: but it works with paypal
[18:18:00] darkdrgn2k: why is there such a long pause between selecging WATCH TV and the tv actualy comming on?
[18:18:00] linagee: sportman: wtf
[18:18:00] sportman: its wierd
[18:19:00] linagee: darkdrgn2k: little elves have to get it ready
[18:19:00] sportman: like if u go to buy something and they say select credit or debit u pick credit
[18:19:00] sportman: but it still works like debit
[18:19:00] sportman: its intesting
[18:19:00] sportman: *interesting
[18:19:00] linagee: sportman: you mean a check card
[18:19:00] darkdrgn2k: linagee: hahahah .. how can we minimize that
[18:19:00] linagee: 16 year olds with credit cards, what will they have next
[18:19:00] sportman: 16 year oldsd with beer
[18:19:00] sportman: :-p
[18:19:00] sportman: jk
[18:19:00] darkdrgn2k: linagee: 13 year olds with cell phones
[18:20:00] linagee: darkdrgn2k: no!
[18:20:00] sportman: try 8 year olds with cellphones
[18:20:00] linagee: ???
[18:20:00] linagee: wtf?
[18:20:00] sportman: that scares the hell out of me
[18:20:00] sportman: ive seen it
[18:20:00] darkdrgn2k: sportman: true
[18:20:00] linagee: in elementary school?
[18:20:00] sportman: i wasnt even supposed to answer the phone when i was 8
[18:20:00] sportman: lol
[18:20:00] Beirdo: "nah, I'm home alone, mr stranger"
[18:20:00] linagee: sportman: then they find out, "whoops, everyone with a cellphone or anyone around people with cellphones die from cancer at 30 if you're exposed at a young age" ROFL
[18:21:00] Juski: they have bullying by text message now
[18:21:00] sportman: lol
[18:21:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:21:00] Beirdo: that's easy to avoid
[18:21:00] Beirdo: shut the damn phone off
[18:21:00] sportman: um should i do beginner install of oveerclockix
[18:21:00] Juski: seriously. kids have committed suicide on the back of that
[18:21:00] sportman: knoppix system install
[18:21:00] Cromz: my 10 year old has one :P she's not allowed to take it to school. got it for her cause she's always taking off and going to her friends house. and hard to find her. :P walkie talkie didn't work..
[18:21:00] sportman: or debian system
[18:21:00] linagee: Juski: wtf?
[18:21:00] Beirdo: bah
[18:21:00] linagee: Juski: bully by text message? suicide??
[18:21:00] sportman: i had a walki talkie till i was like 14
[18:22:00] Juski: yep
[18:22:00] Juski: in the UK..
[18:22:00] linagee: sportman: and it went what, 20 feet if you were lucky? :)
[18:22:00] darkdrgn2k: ok here is a questionf or you
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[18:22:00] darkdrgn2k: i gots me 2 tuners in a computer
[18:22:00] sportman: nope mine went like 1 mile
[18:22:00] darkdrgn2k: they can share the same channel source right?
[18:22:00] sportman: or 2
[18:22:00] Beirdo: you sure it wasn't because of Judas Priest or something else people wanna villianize?
[18:22:00] sportman: it reached my school
[18:22:00] linagee: sportman: oic. fancy pants
[18:22:00] linagee: sportman: in my day, we had walkie talkies that only go like 20 feet if that.
[18:22:00] sportman: lol
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[18:22:00] Juski: Beirdo: nah – definitely bullying – and they reckon texting was involved
[18:23:00] sportman: um, lets see should i install lilo to mbr
[18:23:00] linagee: sportman: you kids and your fancy FRS walkie talkies
[18:23:00] sportman: or to the root partition
[18:23:00] Beirdo: oh please
[18:23:00] Juski: we have a weird culture (or lack of) here
[18:23:00] Beirdo: I was bullied a lot as a kid, that doesn't mean I'd off myself
[18:23:00] darkdrgn2k: sportman: depends, you want lilo to boot windows.. or windows to boot lilo
[18:23:00] linagee: Juski: how can you bully by text message?
[18:23:00] Beirdo: blame uncaring parents
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[18:23:00] sportman: um lilo to boot windows
[18:23:00] linagee: Juski: "You're ugly!"
[18:23:00] sportman: but im scared
[18:23:00] Juski: I dunno... "u suk + u will die" or something
[18:23:00] sportman: i messed everything up with my last install of lilo with knoppmyth
[18:23:00] sportman: and now im just installing regular knoppix
[18:24:00] sportman: and i dont want to mess up
[18:24:00] sportman: :(
[18:24:00] linagee: Juski: "Maggots are eating your brain. I put spikers in your lunch. Tomorrow you will die."
[18:24:00] sportman: mbr it is ...
[18:24:00] linagee: er, spiders
[18:24:00] Juski: it's this mad thing brought on by nobody wanting to 'fail'.. they've even talked about redefining exam grades so nobody 'fails'
[18:24:00] linagee: Juski: how do you get bully by texting? how do they get your cell number??
[18:25:00] sportman: the internet
[18:25:00] Juski: linagee: this is playground stuff apparently
[18:25:00] linagee: sportman: ? why would you post your cell number on the net
[18:25:00] darkdrgn2k: whyu cant i change channels on my tuern damit..
[18:25:00] darkdrgn2k: th epvr works FINE
[18:25:00] darkdrgn2k: the TV WONDER WORKED fine b4
[18:25:00] Juski: kids exchange those 'crazy' ringtones a lot.. thats how they all have each others numbers I expect
[18:26:00] linagee: Juski: and one goes corrupt and gives out all the numbers?
[18:26:00] Beirdo: kids are stupid and shouldn't have cellphones
[18:26:00] darkdrgn2k: the PVR does not use a sound card.. right
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[18:26:00] darkdrgn2k: for capturing?
[18:26:00] Juski: linagee: kids do the bullying to other kids. kid gets upset & tops themselves... been a few reported cases of it here
[18:26:00] linagee: Juski: or it's the gurls, right?
[18:26:00] linagee: Juski: gurls are evil and give out all the numbers
[18:26:00] linagee: Juski: a FEW?!?
[18:27:00] linagee: wtf?
[18:27:00] Juski: yep
[18:27:00] Juski: look on the bbc news website.. do a search
[18:27:00] darkdrgn2k: the PVR150 does not use a sound card for video/audio capturing right?
[18:27:00] linagee: Juski: i'm suprised they don't see alternatives. "mom / dad, i want to be homeschooled"
[18:27:00] jonK: you are correct sir
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[18:27:00] Beirdo: or how about "mom, dad, this kid is picking on me"
[18:28:00] linagee: Beirdo: "ok son, let's inform the principal which will lecture the kid and let him back loose" lol
[18:28:00] darkdrgn2k: the PVR150 does not use a sound card for video/audio capturing right?
[18:28:00] Beirdo: heh, whatever
[18:28:00] jonK: with mythweb, is there a way to change program attributes? I'd like to turn off the auto expire flag for some recordings
[18:28:00] jonK: why would it use a soundcard for video capturing?
[18:28:00] Beirdo: trust me, I could have had several people expelled for bullying
[18:29:00] linagee: Beirdo: there are very few ways to get rid of a bully
[18:29:00] darkdrgn2k: jonK: well i have 2 pvrs.. one FRAME GRABBER that uses it
[18:29:00] linagee: Beirdo: fighting them in any way only makes it worse
[18:29:00] darkdrgn2k: jonK: but i dont hear anythigng when running the 2nd tuner
[18:29:00] linagee: Beirdo: then they have your "buttons"
[18:29:00] Juski: aaanyway... it's gonna be a _happy_ new year, right
[18:29:00] jonK: both 150s?
[18:29:00] jonK: by 2 pvrs you mean two systems?
[18:29:00] Beirdo: meh
[18:29:00] jonK: meh?
[18:29:00] Beirdo: I dealt with it for years
[18:30:00] Beirdo: I know how to deal with bullies, and I know how hard it is
[18:30:00] darkdrgn2k: jonK: sory to capture cards
[18:30:00] darkdrgn2k: jonK: one pvr 150
[18:30:00] darkdrgn2k: jonK: on tv wonder (frame grabber)
[18:30:00] darkdrgn2k: the frame grabber has no sound
[18:30:00] darkdrgn2k: and cant change channels
[18:30:00] linagee: Beirdo: one thing they don't like is if you fall in love with them. hahaha. that throws them off.
[18:30:00] jonK: does it work when you pull the 150?
[18:30:00] Beirdo: #1, ignore them, give them NO reaction
[18:31:00] darkdrgn2k: perfectly
[18:31:00] linagee: Beirdo: like if they say, "fsck you!" say, "with pleasure, tonight maybe?"
[18:31:00] darkdrgn2k: localy and on a remote settop
[18:31:00] Beirdo: #2, be kind to them, many of them are starved for attention and really just want friends
[18:31:00] ** Juski was bullied at, but now takes heart in the fact the bullies are still losers **
[18:31:00] Juski: *school
[18:32:00] jonK: can i set program values from mythweb? I'd like to turn off the auto expire flag for some programs
[18:32:00] Beirdo: #3, if it gets out of control, tell your parents and the authorities
[18:32:00] linagee: Beirdo: #1 only get much physical pain. "I'm ignoring you when you're pulling my hair!" hahahhaa. right.
[18:32:00] linagee: Beirdo: #3 get everyone else to hate them. lol
[18:32:00] Juski: jonK: not get
[18:32:00] Beirdo: whatever, linagee
[18:32:00] Juski: damn this cold. gone all year without catching one.. dammit
[18:32:00] linagee: Beirdo: #4 graduate and never look back. lol
[18:33:00] Beirdo: yeah, #4 get a good job and laugh at their sorry asses when they go to jail
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[18:33:00] linagee: lol
[18:33:00] jonK: then any reason to not just do it with sql directly?
[18:33:00] Juski: give corporal punishment rights back to the teachers is what I say
[18:33:00] linagee: Beirdo: one guy i knew in school once got arrested for molesting a little gurl. heard about it a year after i gradumated.
[18:33:00] jonK: update recorded.autoexpire = 0 where title = "showname"
[18:33:00] Juski: start the backlash against political correctness & no-balls do-gooders now
[18:33:00] darkdrgn3k: oh great NOW it works
[18:34:00] jonK: yes, complain that it is workign
[18:34:00] linagee: Beirdo: he was kind of a bully, kind of not. i think if he was more muscular he'd be a bully.
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[18:34:00] linagee: Beirdo: he had his heart set on bully, just not the physique
[18:34:00] ** Juski is sorry for ever bringing up the subject.. heheh **
[18:34:00] Beirdo: anyways, I'm gonna code
[18:34:00] linagee: Juski: lol
[18:35:00] darkdrgn3k: what image size resolution should be set for v4l based cards?
[18:35:00] darkdrgn3k: like whast the aspect ratio
[18:35:00] linagee: Juski: hrm. corporal punishment...
[18:35:00] Juski: my wife was watching a recorded soap opera on Tuesday... from xmas day... they had a text crawler onscreen going "if you are upset by scenes of people having a happy christmas..."... for fecks sake!!!
[18:35:00] darkdrgn3k: or rather wahtts better.. jpg or mpeg4?
[18:35:00] linagee: Juski: and how will you be sure only the bad are punished? or just punish everyone equally and hope for the best? lol
[18:36:00] jonK: actually... update recorded set autoexpire = 0 where title = "showname";
[18:36:00] linagee: Juski: if you are upset, then what? lol
[18:36:00] linagee: Juski: jump out a window now? lol
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[18:37:00] Juski: linagee: you learn that there's a price for everything – I had to take punishment for something I didn't do once, but it didn't make me bitter about it
[18:37:00] Juski: kids these days yada yada yada yada...
[18:37:00] linagee: Juski: what did the scrolly text say?
[18:37:00] Juski: gave a 'helpline' phone number
[18:38:00] linagee: ROFL, you're kidding. lol
[18:38:00] linagee: "help! i'm not supposed to see christmas!"
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[18:38:00] Juski: I might still have the recording...
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[18:39:00] linagee: there are a lot of things that piss me off, a gay person living in a straight man's world, but you don't see helplines for that! lol
[18:39:00] ** linagee calls up imaginary helpline and complains about taxes **
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[18:40:00] Juski: deleted it.. never mind.. there's bound to be something about it somewhere
[18:40:00] ** linagee calls up comedy central and asks why "the man show" doesn't have men **
[18:44:00] Krazylegz: Anyone know where mythweather saves the location?
[18:44:00] Beirdo: probably in the database
[18:44:00] Juski: like the old "if you have been affected by any of the issues in this programme call the 'x' helpline'...
[18:44:00] Juski: I want one of them to come up during a reality TV show so I can ring them up & yell at them
[18:45:00] Juski: Krazylegz: settings table in the DB
[18:46:00] Krazylegz: Juski: I'm looking in there, but I don't see it.
[18:46:00] linagee: Juski: lol
[18:46:00] Krazylegz: Hmm. 'locale' ?
[18:46:00] linagee: Juski: "if you have been affected by the stupidity of this show or it's actors, please call 800-xxx-xxxxx"
[18:46:00] Krazylegz: Can't understand that anyway.
[18:47:00] Juski: Krazylegz: it'll be a weather.com code
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[18:49:00] linagee: Krazylegz: locale sounds like an english way to spell it. :)
[18:49:00] linagee: like theatre and such
[18:49:00] Juski: the _right_ way you mean ;)
[18:50:00] Beirdo: linagee needs to learn English
[18:50:00] Cromz: YES! I got it. x10 via bottlerocket intergration with my myth. w00ts. now I gotta get more x10 modules. lol
[18:50:00] Juski: yeh my 'locale' entry is UKXX092 – the weather.com code for Manchest-uh
[18:50:00] linagee: Beirdo: no thanks, engrish is fine. :)
[18:51:00] Juski: Cromz: today your house.. tomorrow?... ;-)
[18:51:00] Cromz: hmm didn't think that far yet.
[18:51:00] linagee: Juski: party today at your house???
[18:51:00] Cromz: lol
[18:51:00] Juski: what are you gonna do tomorrow night, Cromz? The same thing you do every night?
[18:51:00] linagee: Juski: no, tomorrow is after new years
[18:51:00] Juski: yes linagee but you're not invited
[18:52:00] linagee: :(
[18:52:00] Juski: :-P
[18:52:00] linagee: Juski: the same thing we do every night pinky
[18:52:00] Cromz: yes pinky..
[18:52:00] Cromz: er yeah.
[18:52:00] Cromz: lol
[18:52:00] linagee: Juski: masturbate furiously over the world!
[18:52:00] Juski: bet you can't handle yer liquor anyway
[18:52:00] linagee: Juski: i mean, take over the world! lol
[18:54:00] linagee: if i delete a NUV file manually instead of through mythweb, how do i fix the broken link? tinker with the DB? (which table?)
[18:54:00] Beirdo: touch the file (to make it a 0-byte file)
[18:54:00] Beirdo: then delete it in the frontend
[18:54:00] linagee: Beirdo: takes forever to delete stuff through mythweb
[18:54:00] Beirdo: instead of deleting it next time... cat /dev/null > the file
[18:54:00] linagee: Beirdo: that doesn't work either
[18:55:00] Beirdo: doesn't for me
[18:55:00] linagee: Beirdo: still errors
[18:55:00] linagee: Beirdo: errors in myth log = bad, slows things down
[18:55:00] linagee: Beirdo: when you're talking about hundreds of files
[18:55:00] Beirdo: so recreate all the files and delete em right
[18:55:00] Beirdo: :)
[18:55:00] Beirdo: or tinker
[18:56:00] Beirdo: it would be recorded table, I think
[18:56:00] linagee: Beirdo: how do i delete it from the DB without telling mythtv that i never saw it
[18:56:00] sportman: how much it cost to overnight firewire?
[18:56:00] linagee: Beirdo: and if i deleted from the recorded table, mythtv still wouldn't record repeats of the show?
[18:56:00] linagee: sportman: a lot
[18:56:00] Beirdo: not sure
[18:56:00] linagee: sportman: you're talking sunday delivery. almost impossible
[18:56:00] Beirdo: you'd likely have to delete it properly
[18:57:00] Beirdo: sunday delivery on new year's day
[18:57:00] Beirdo: good luck
[18:57:00] linagee: :(
[18:57:00] Krazylegz: Juski: Thanks for the help. I'll just get a keyboard to change my location. :-)
[18:57:00] sportman: lol
[18:57:00] sportman: good point
[18:57:00] linagee: Beirdo: i can get that. :)
[18:57:00] linagee: Beirdo: but my company is probably charged several arms + legs. lol
[18:57:00] Baylink: USPS Express Mail will deliver 365 days a year.
[18:57:00] Beirdo: Baylink, hehe, they "deliver"
[18:57:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:57:00] Baylink: sportman, what do you need?
[18:57:00] sportman: ]firewire cable
[18:57:00] sportman: now
[18:57:00] sportman: lol
[18:58:00] Baylink: Yeah, their freebie percentage is something like 30% I think.
[18:58:00] linagee: Baylink: a silly little $5 cable
[18:58:00] Beirdo: so get on your bike and go to Radio Shack
[18:58:00] dave__: when I pring up the program guide it shows up off the screen any way to fix that?
[18:58:00] Baylink: sportman, office depot, etc.
[18:58:00] linagee: lol. good idea. get on the bike or bus
[18:58:00] sportman: raqdioshack costslike 20 bux
[18:58:00] sportman: for one
[18:58:00] linagee: get some air
[18:58:00] Beirdo: so?
[18:58:00] sportman: its retarded
[18:58:00] sportman: true
[18:58:00] Beirdo: cheaper than overnight shipping
[18:58:00] Baylink: And overnight/sunday/holiday is *soo* much cheaper.
[18:58:00] linagee: sportman: $20 is cheaper than shipping overnight
[18:58:00] sportman: well that means i have to get dressed
[18:58:00] linagee: Beirdo: jinx
[18:58:00] sportman: lol
[18:58:00] Baylink: Great minds...
[18:58:00] sportman: ok fine ill ride my bike in a minute
[18:58:00] Baylink: Who's buyin' me a beer?
[18:58:00] linagee: sportman: you're nekid?
[18:59:00] sportman: no in boxers
[18:59:00] linagee: sportman: that's nekid! :)
[18:59:00] sportman: yey my overclockixinstall worked
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[18:59:00] ** linagee buys everyone a shot glass worth of beer. :) **
[19:00:00] linagee: (there's a LOT of people in here! lol()
[19:00:00] sportman: hmm
[19:00:00] linagee: except not sportman, too young.
[19:01:00] sportman: why is linux soo much louder when playing audio files
[19:01:00] sportman: lo
[19:01:00] sportman: ]l
[19:01:00] sportman: seriouisly its like double the loudness
[19:01:00] Baylink: Good thing it's virtual beer.
[19:01:00] Baylink: Has anyone ever deployed the Virtual Beer Network?
[19:01:00] dave__: is there any difference by using a different window manager?
[19:01:00] Baylink: Cause that'd be *really* cool.
[19:01:00] Krazylegz: VBN?
[19:02:00] linagee: Baylink: oh it's real beer if your local brewery accepts virtual money. :)
[19:02:00] Juski: sportman: the extra loudness is caused by ricing
[19:02:00] linagee: fsck
[19:02:00] linagee: my place is a mess and i wanted to have a new years party here
[19:02:00] ** linagee gets dressed **
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[19:03:00] Juski: why tidy up to get it messed up again?
[19:03:00] linagee: Juski: it will get messed up with party stuff, not "i'm still moving into my place on month number 3" stuff
[19:03:00] Baylink: No, I mean some thing where you can go to a bar and they can debit your Virtual Beer Account, that other people can deposit in from far away.
[19:04:00] Juski: and with that comment, I bid you all farewell and wish you a happy New Year :-)
[19:04:00] sportman: want to help me get wireless working
[19:04:00] Juski: time to get pissed
[19:04:00] linagee: Baylink: send beer by sonic air to everyone. :)
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[19:04:00] linagee: Baylink: sonic air delivers 24/7/365
[19:04:00] linagee: Baylink: their drivers are crazy like that. :)
[19:05:00] linagee: sportman: wireless is easy. read the manual. :)
[19:05:00] sportman: the knoppix manual?
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[19:07:00] linagee: oh internal. heh
[19:16:00] sportman: yea
[19:16:00] sportman: internel
[19:16:00] sportman: and i spent months trying to get it working
[19:16:00] sportman: failed
[19:16:00] sportman: now i try again
[19:16:00] sportman: :(
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[19:19:00] linagee: sportman: months? i thought you just got your new computer 2 days ago
[19:19:00] sportman: got cable box
[19:19:00] sportman: 2 days ago
[19:20:00] Amankhan: Hello all.
[19:20:00] Beirdo: patience, child...
[19:20:00] sportman: its a scientific atlanta 4200HD
[19:20:00] linagee: sportman: cable box with firewire?
[19:20:00] Amankhan: I'm having a problem with Lirc. I've searched all through the mailing list archives as well as numerous pages, but no luck yet :/
[19:20:00] sportman: yes indeed
[19:21:00] sportman: i like it, its a nice box
[19:21:00] sportman: thats why im not getting a capture card just need that firewire cable :-p
[19:21:00] Amankhan: Using latest version, lirc 0.8 with FC4, kernel 2.6.14–1.1653_FC4
[19:21:00] linagee: sportman: bike to radio shack
[19:21:00] linagee: sportman: or walmart, whatever is closer. lol
[19:22:00] sportman: i got the idea
[19:22:00] sportman: but im still going to get wireless working on linux first i suppose
[19:23:00] linagee: sportman too lazy to get dressed? :P
[19:23:00] sportman: no, just want to get wirless working
[19:24:00] sportman: and besides my dad just messed up the set up we had with the new hd tv
[19:24:00] sportman: so he wont let me near the box
[19:24:00] Amankhan: wireless on your myth setup, sportman?
[19:26:00] sportman: yea
[19:26:00] sportman: it would be nice
[19:26:00] sportman: since im doing my myth setup on a laptop
[19:26:00] Amankhan: what card do you have in the box?
[19:26:00] sportman: wireless?
[19:26:00] sportman: card
[19:26:00] sportman: you mean?
[19:26:00] Amankhan: yes
[19:27:00] sportman: some type of broadcom wifi 54g
[19:27:00] sportman: internel
[19:27:00] sportman: but i cannot find the exact model cause the emachines site with it is down
[19:27:00] Amankhan: ah
[19:27:00] Amankhan: are you just going to run a frontend on your laptop?
[19:27:00] sportman: nope
[19:27:00] sportman: whole thing
[19:27:00] Amankhan: interesting
[19:28:00] sportman: my cable box has a firewire
[19:28:00] Amankhan: ah
[19:28:00] sportman: and so does my laptop
[19:28:00] Amankhan: nice
[19:28:00] sportman: yep :)
[19:28:00] Amankhan: is this your first myth setup?
[19:29:00] sportman: yea
[19:29:00] sportman: i didnt install myth yet though
[19:29:00] sportman: i want to get wireless going
[19:29:00] sportman: brb breakfast
[19:29:00] Amankhan: what distro are you running on your laptop?
[19:29:00] sportman: overclockix (knoppix on steriods)
[19:29:00] Amankhan: Ah, so anyone here using lirc 0.8? I'm having an odd problem with it & need help
[19:29:00] sportman: just instaleld it 20 min ago
[19:29:00] Amankhan: cool
[19:30:00] Amankhan: Everything installed & setup fine (used Jarod's FC4/myth setup page)
[19:30:00] Amankhan: Just when I test the remote with irw, no response. and /var/log/messages has some odd text in it
[19:31:00] sportman: ok back
[19:31:00] sportman: mm taht was good
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[19:31:00] darkdrgn3k: is it posible set up a differnt command line for a settop in mythvideo
[19:31:00] Amankhan: I see "acceptd new client on /dev/lircd" then I see "removed client"
[19:32:00] darkdrgn3k: for example if i dont want it to use -vo vx but rather liek -vo x11
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[19:36:00] Musicman: where can i find out my channel frequency table?
[19:37:00] BloodHawk: OK, I've tried to add both a V4L and DVB capture card for my single fusion5, but I don't think this is the right setup.
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[19:39:00] feld_: hey guys got a minor problem. I fixed my weird database issues after playing around with mysql for a long time, but now mythweb wont work because it cannot connect thru the mysqld.sock. its pointing to the right one, but it just cannot connect thru. does it require some special permissions?
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[19:40:00] darkdrgn3k: feld_: the username that it uses should have full access to the db
[19:40:00] Beirdo: damn you svn, do what I say!
[19:41:00] feld: well thats odd darkdrgn3k
[19:41:00] feld: because apparently it doesnt
[19:41:00] BloodHawk: is there a howto for using a hybrid DVB/analog (one input) card?
[19:44:00] Amankhan: No one here is using lirc 0.8 with the 2.6.14 kernel?
[19:44:00] Beirdo: it seems that way
[19:44:00] sportman: im using 2.6.7
[19:44:00] sportman: but not using lirc
[19:44:00] sportman: lol
[19:44:00] Amankhan: Interesting
[19:45:00] sportman: so close getting ndis wrapper
[19:45:00] sportman: asking me to enter additional paremeters
[19:45:00] feld: Amankhan: no because 2.6.14 broke lirc
[19:45:00] sportman: if neccessary
[19:45:00] darkdrgn3k: is there any way to set up MYTHVIDEO to respect folders.. so all my movies dont show up in one large list
[19:45:00] sportman: ah so i cant run 2.6.7
[19:45:00] sportman: can i?
[19:45:00] Amankhan: Ah, it did! That's good to know, thank you feld
[19:45:00] sportman: if i want lirc
[19:45:00] feld: yeah it changed some variables or something
[19:45:00] feld: and so lirc pukes
[19:45:00] Amankhan: Wow, so that might totally explain the problem I'm having
[19:46:00] feld: and lirc hasnt kept up to date
[19:46:00] Amankhan: install goes ok, but /var/log/messages shows that it "accepted new client on /dev/lircd" immediately followed by "removed client"
[19:47:00] Amankhan: out of curiosity, what are people using in place of lirc?
[19:47:00] darkdrgn3k: Amankhan: the irblaster that came wiht my pvr150 works great
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[19:47:00] darkdrgn3k: Amankhan: i cant get my LIVE DRIVE to work though liverd reads inputs. but lirc wont
[19:48:00] Amankhan: whoa, tell me more! by irblaster, do you mean using the hauppauge brand remote & ir receiver?
[19:48:00] Amankhan: i have a pvr150 & a pvr250 in my box, both came with remotes
[19:48:00] darkdrgn3k: Yep!
[19:48:00] darkdrgn3k: thats the on i gots
[19:48:00] Amankhan: one's the older grey, the other is the newer grey
[19:48:00] Amankhan: wow, we should talk! :P
[19:48:00] Amankhan: what all did you do to set your remote up?
[19:49:00] Amankhan: from a software perspective
[19:49:00] Amankhan: and not using lirc, i mean
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: me thiks me is new
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: ok
[19:49:00] Amankhan: i'm definitely new :P
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: well i compled the neweset lic i could find
[19:49:00] Amankhan: lirc?
[19:49:00] Amankhan: or what is lic?
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: umm lirc
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: 7.1
[19:49:00] Amankhan: k
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: my modules preload looks liek this
[19:49:00] Cardoe: Linux Infrared
[19:49:00] Amankhan: what kernel are you running with it?
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: msp3400
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: cx25840
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: lirc_i2c
[19:49:00] darkdrgn3k: ivtv
[19:50:00] Amankhan: k
[19:50:00] darkdrgn3k: Linux localhost 2.6.12–12mdk #1 Fri Sep 9 18:15:22 CEST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz unknown GNU/Linux
[19:50:00] Amankhan: that's exactly what i'm running, too
[19:50:00] Musicman: channel frequency table, anyone?
[19:50:00] Beirdo: lic this ;)
[19:50:00] darkdrgn3k: oh yeh i also recompiled ivtv too
[19:50:00] Amankhan: after you installed lirc, right?
[19:50:00] darkdrgn3k: Amankhan: before.. doesnt matter
[19:50:00] Amankhan: k
[19:50:00] darkdrgn3k: i use ivtv 0.4.1
[19:50:00] Amankhan: i'll go for 7.2, see if that works
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: wait
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: i used 7.1
[19:51:00] Amankhan: ah
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: i never used the compield one
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: LOL
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: anyway
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: i call my lircd manually via rc.d
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: using
[19:51:00] darkdrgn3k: /usr/local/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc0
[19:51:00] Amankhan: ah
[19:52:00] darkdrgn3k: after running irw it reads the data
[19:52:00] darkdrgn3k: soo i preoceeded in configuing everythign esle :-P
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[19:52:00] darkdrgn3k: havent configed the buttons on myth yet.. mainly cause i donno what to do :-P
[19:52:00] darkdrgn3k: what the settings are
[19:52:00] darkdrgn3k: that and my receiver is in an od place right now
[19:53:00] darkdrgn3k: ive been trying to get my livedrive_midi to work.. no results
[19:53:00] darkdrgn3k: wait lircd is 7.2
[19:53:00] darkdrgn3k: but the i2c module is what controls the ir
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[19:53:00] Amankhan: feld: any place i can find more info on what 2.6.14 broke in lirc? the lirc webpage has nothing, nor does the mailing list
[19:53:00] Amankhan: i could try 7.1 or 7.2, but with my kernel, not sure if any of them would work.  :/
[19:53:00] darkdrgn3k: Amankhan: check your DMESG
[19:54:00] darkdrgn3k: Amankhan: you should have thise in there
[19:54:00] darkdrgn3k: lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x71 (Hauppauge IR (PVR150))
[19:54:00] darkdrgn3k: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=Hauppauge IR (PVR150), addr=71]
[19:54:00] Amankhan: i did
[19:54:00] Amankhan: yep it finds it
[19:54:00] darkdrgn3k: idi you try my command line?
[19:54:00] darkdrgn3k: check to see you have /dev/lirc0 first
[19:54:00] darkdrgn3k: might be /dev/lirc/0
[19:54:00] emes: is there any way to specify on the "record this program in this timeslot every week" schedule option to not record any reruns?
[19:54:00] Amankhan: yep i have /dev/lirc0
[19:54:00] darkdrgn3k: ok so run
[19:55:00] Amankhan: and /dev/lirc1 as well, 2 capture cards
[19:55:00] darkdrgn3k: /usr/local/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc0 m &
[19:55:00] darkdrgn3k: the run
[19:55:00] darkdrgn3k: irw
[19:55:00] darkdrgn3k: see what happens
[19:55:00] Amankhan: k, i'm having to manually type all this, so will take a sec
[19:55:00] Amankhan: on another box atm
[19:55:00] BloodHawk: any fusion5 users here?
[19:56:00] ** darkdrgn3k is away.. foood **
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[19:56:00] Amankhan: darkdrgn3k: i get this "/usr/local/sbin/lircd: No such file or directory"
[19:57:00] feld: okay i fixed my stupid problem
[19:57:00] feld: /var/run/mysqld was owned my mysql:mysql
[19:58:00] feld: and apache didnt have rights to speak to mysqld.sock within there
[19:58:00] feld: so i added apache to group mysql and restarted apache. voila! it works.
[19:58:00] Musicman: i go to click watch tv and i get "Could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup prgram correct?
[19:59:00] Amankhan: nice, feld!
[19:59:00] Amankhan: feld: any place i can find more info on what 2.6.14 broke in lirc? the lirc webpage has nothing, nor does the mailing list
[20:00:00] feld: Amankhan: gentoo forums has a topic on it i think
[20:01:00] feld: Amankhan: i just upgraded to mysql 4.1.16 from *.15 which fixed an issue where guide data was missing and then this permissions stuff cropped up. I wonder if they changed permissions of /var/run/mysqld in the upgrade? hrm....
[20:02:00] Amankhan: they might have! that would suck if they did
[20:02:00] feld: thats the only explanation I have anyway
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[20:03:00] jnunez: darkdrgn3k: any tips on setting up the TX on the PVR-150? I can get the RX working but I can't on theTX. No errors in the syslog
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[20:05:00] Beirdo: tx?
[20:05:00] Beirdo: huh?
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[20:05:00] Beirdo: it's a tuner card, not a transmitter
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[20:05:00] sopan: how do i burn a dvd from my .nuv files?
[20:06:00] jamesbrink: can anyone recommend a good yet inexpsinvie tv out card for use with myttv, and or a combo like the all in wonder?
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[20:06:00] emes: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_MythTV_to_DVD
[20:06:00] Beirdo: gah, too many people not researching for themselves today
[20:06:00] sopan: i use pvr350 its working good
[20:06:00] Beirdo: I think I'll ignore the channel for a while
[20:07:00] jamesbrink: pvr350 eh
[20:07:00] jnunez: Beirdo: the 150 has a IR RX and TX built in
[20:07:00] Beirdo: jnunez, go talk to a lirc expert then, this channel is for mythtv
[20:07:00] jnunez: I ordered a serial based IR TX because I have had so many problems
[20:09:00] Beirdo: sorry, I'm a bit grouchy
[20:09:00] jnunez: Beirdo: I have researched it and have tried tons of different solutions. I am just looking for some tips
[20:09:00] Beirdo: I think I'll go ignore the channel for a while
[20:13:00] sportman: guess
[20:13:00] sportman: guys
[20:13:00] sportman: i got wireless working
[20:13:00] sportman: only problem is i had to take my moms wifi card
[20:13:00] sportman: so i dunno how that is going to work out
[20:13:00] sportman: i gave up on my internel card
[20:13:00] sportman: alright time to start setting up myth tv
[20:15:00] sopan: sportman do u run backend on same machine?
[20:16:00] sportman: its going to be all the same
[20:16:00] sportman: machine
[20:16:00] sportman: well no matter what
[20:16:00] sportman: i want this machine to be the backend
[20:16:00] sportman: my xbox might eventually be a frontend
[20:16:00] sportman: but that would be down the road
[20:17:00] sopan: oh i thougt you had wifi running
[20:17:00] sportman: i do have wifi running
[20:17:00] sportman: y?
[20:17:00] sportman: just for internet
[20:17:00] sportman: that is
[20:18:00] sopan: okey, i think my wifi takes a little time to startup so mythfrontend cant connect to backend...
[20:21:00] sportman: can one of you help me figure out the knoppix root password
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[20:24:00] sportman: ok did that
[20:24:00] sportman: lets get this started
[20:26:00] sportman: who wants to help me do this?
[20:26:00] sportman: im starting from just a basic knoppix install with kpackage
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[20:31:00] dave__: anyone here using a bt878?
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[20:43:00] thanatoast: I am, not that i can help  :)
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[20:47:00] sportman: ah crap
[20:47:00] sportman: i gotta compile it under kernel 2.4
[20:47:00] sportman: so lirc will work once i get it
[20:47:00] sportman: then i can always upgrade to the latest kernel later
[20:48:00] sportman: i want chicken i want liver
[20:48:00] sportman: meow mix
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[20:58:00] sportman: hmm
[20:59:00] sportman: wtf no firewire support
[20:59:00] sportman: :(
[20:59:00] sportman: this blows
[20:59:00] sportman: xzcvbnmk,lasdfghjkl
[21:01:00] sportman: Beirdo
[21:01:00] sportman: help me dude
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[21:11:00] dave__: Is there anything special you need to do to the encoding options to set them?
[21:17:00] xris: huh?
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[21:18:00] jtran: hello
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[21:20:00] sportman: hello
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[21:22:00] Netslayer: i'm using SVN vers from early december and one of my boxes is giving this error when going into Rip/Transcode: mtd: error while loading shared libraries: libmyth-0.16.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:23:00] Netslayer: what would cause it to look at v16 of the lib, it's at 18 now and that makes no sense
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[21:23:00] Netslayer: i'm on gentoo and recompiled mythtv, mythmusic, mythdvd and still it gives that error
[21:24:00] jtran: hi guys, will hauppage pvr-350 work with DVB
[21:24:00] jtran: ?
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[21:24:00] jtran: or do i need to purchase an DVB card?
[21:24:00] Netslayer: doing an ldd on mythfrontend shows it works: libmyth-0.18.so.0 => /usr/lib/libmyth-0.18.so.0 (0xb7000000)
[21:24:00] jtran: thanks
[21:25:00] Netslayer: jtran, the 350 doesn't do DVB as far as i know..it's an mpeg2 capture card (analog not atsc)
[21:25:00] jtran: thank you!
[21:25:00] dave__: what kind of aliases does the bt878 need for alsa?
[21:26:00] jtran: any recommendations for DVB card?
[21:26:00] Netslayer: dave__, i don't think it needs anything..it's not a soundcard
[21:26:00] Netslayer: jtran, over the air atsc capture in north america?
[21:26:00] jtran: yes
[21:26:00] dave__: Netslayer, It has an audio card on it for playback..right?
[21:27:00] dave__: shows up in dmesg
[21:27:00] sportman: guys
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[21:27:00] sportman: i went to compile myth tv
[21:27:00] sportman: and when i configured it said firewire: no
[21:27:00] Netslayer: dave__, are you talking about the audio in on bt878 capture cards?
[21:27:00] sportman: does that mean that once i hook up my firewire box it will be supported
[21:28:00] Netslayer: probably not
[21:28:00] sportman: or iut doesnt even recognize that my computer has a firewire port?
[21:29:00] jtran: i think WinTV-NOVA-T is compatiable with DVB
[21:29:00] jtran: im going to do more research on it
[21:29:00] jtran: thanks
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[21:30:00] dave__: Netslayer, umm maybe, im trying to get the card to play through alsa
[21:40:00] xris: sportman: means you need the firewire libaries
[21:40:00] xris: libiec61883-devel, libraw1394-devel, libavc1394-devel
[21:40:00] xris: (in fedora)
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[21:54:00] ** sportman cries **
[21:54:00] sportman: Y do you mock me
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[21:55:00] xris: sportman: huh? those are the package names you'd need for fedora. no idea what they're called elsewhere
[21:57:00] Netslayer: when i goto rip dvd, it says "No Jobs. Checking and/or waiting for DVD" and I have on in there??
[21:59:00] sportman: my cd rom drive isnt recognizing anything
[22:03:00] Netslayer: i ran mtd and looks like libdvdread doesn't want to read /dev/dvd
[22:04:00] sportman: and im in windows
[22:04:00] sportman: so thats a problem
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[22:09:00] sportman: anyone use myth tv in ubuntu
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[22:17:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: plenty do
[22:18:00] GreyFoxx: and I would wager that there is at least 1 myth user for just about every distro :)
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[22:20:00] Musicman: anyone know where I can find the lines to load the nvidia drivers as root?
[22:21:00] cesman: Musicman: if you've installed R5A26, the nvidia drivers should automatically load
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[22:22:00] Musicman: so this guide is outdated?
[22:22:00] Musicman: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . ckend+server
[22:23:00] cesman: it isn't a guide I wrote...
[22:23:00] sportman: do you think it will be easy to get running in ubuntu
[22:24:00] Musicman: link a guide you wrote
[22:24:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: Having never used ubuntu, or any idea about your Linux experience I have no idea if it would be "Easy" :)
[22:24:00] sportman: ok
[22:24:00] sportman: well what distrobution do you use?
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[22:24:00] GreyFoxx: Slackware
[22:25:00] sportman: ah
[22:25:00] cesman: http://mysettopbox.tv/doc.html
[22:25:00] ** sportman goes and finds his slackware cds **
[22:25:00] sportman: how long did it take you to get a basic backend set up
[22:25:00] sportman: after slackware was installed
[22:25:00] GreyFoxx: My first time was around 2 hours
[22:25:00] GreyFoxx: but I'm not a newbie
[22:26:00] sportman: ok
[22:26:00] sportman: im not a total newb
[22:26:00] GreyFoxx: I've been using Linux for almost 14 years, slackware since it came out, and have been using capture cards under linux since '98
[22:26:00] sportman: well im going to use firewire
[22:26:00] sportman: so hopefully that makes it simpler
[22:26:00] sportman: i was going to use a knoppix isntall i had
[22:26:00] sportman: but it did not recognize my firewire
[22:27:00] sportman: and then apt crapped out
[22:27:00] sportman: cause the packagemanager was horrible
[22:27:00] Netslayer: i can rip a dvd using ISO Copy, but when i goto Perfect for transcoding and start the job mtd dies..any ideas? logs aren't helpful
[22:27:00] xris: fyi for all of you svn users out there... mythweb FINALLY supports custom search schedules!
[22:27:00] ** GreyFoxx prefers to compile most things myself manually :) **
[22:27:00] cesman: sportman: if you are going to dedicate a box for a PVR, might I suggest KnoppMyth. It includes all you need.
[22:27:00] GreyFoxx: xris: looks like you've been putting in a lot of work, tons of commits heh
[22:27:00] sportman: how come your not using gentoo then?
[22:28:00] xris: GreyFoxx: not so much. half of those are typo fixes from previous commits. heh
[22:28:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: I prefer to compile, not let a script do it for me
[22:28:00] sportman: ah
[22:28:00] sportman: true
[22:28:00] GreyFoxx: if I was gonna let something do it for me I would be using packages
[22:28:00] sportman: i see
[22:28:00] sportman: i suppose you have a lot of free time?
[22:28:00] GreyFoxx: Nope, not really :)
[22:29:00] sportman: lol
[22:29:00] GreyFoxx: I just know what I'm doin :)
[22:29:00] sportman: but what about things that take long to compile
[22:29:00] sportman: and you need to compile a bunch of dependencies without a script
[22:29:00] xris: haha. only 6 mythweb tickets open now
[22:29:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: It's not like I have to sit there watching it compile, I can do other work while something is compiling :)
[22:30:00] sportman: good point
[22:30:00] sportman: unfortunatly my computer time is limited
[22:30:00] sportman: imonly 16
[22:31:00] Fitzsimmons: hey guys, how do I get my output in xorg to be tv resolutions instead of PC resolutions?
[22:31:00] GreyFoxx: I work fulltime, have a GF and a young daughter. Time is a rare luxory for me :)
[22:31:00] sportman: fun
[22:32:00] sportman: hmm, i figure your not in your teens, is dating women still a pain
[22:32:00] sportman: my girlfriend is on the phone with me every minute she can be
[22:32:00] sportman: i like talking to her
[22:32:00] sportman: but i do have stuff to do
[22:32:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: Yes it is :)
[22:32:00] Fitzsimmons: anyone?
[22:33:00] GreyFoxx: My apologies to the ladies in the channel, but imho woman are slightly insane :)
[22:33:00] sportman: not insane
[22:33:00] sportman: just able to talk long
[22:33:00] sportman: without going crazy
[22:33:00] sportman: lol
[22:33:00] sportman: for now i will use ubuntu
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[22:34:00] sportman: cause the version i have is compatible with lirc
[22:34:00] sportman: cause it using 2.6.10-5–386
[22:34:00] sportman: and i think lirc breacks with 2.6.14
[22:35:00] GreyFoxx: lirc seems to be a pain for a lot of people
[22:37:00] sportman: well if im going to be using firewire and a cable box im going to need it
[22:37:00] sportman: otherwise im going to have to change the channel on the box each time i want to record a different program
[22:37:00] Netslayer: i can rip a dvd using ISO Copy, but when i goto Perfect for transcoding and start the job mtd dies..any ideas? logs aren't helpful (happens on all my boxen)
[22:37:00] sportman: or i think i can set it twice
[22:38:00] sportman: like i can set the time of the recording on my box and on the computer
[22:38:00] sportman: with 2 remotes
[22:38:00] GreyFoxx: sportman: I think some people use the fireware to change the channel, not just for capture
[22:38:00] sportman: really?
[22:38:00] sportman: that woujld be nice
[22:38:00] GreyFoxx: but I don't have any firewire devices to try that on
[22:38:00] sportman: do you think any stores would be open tomorrow
[22:38:00] sportman: or doubted
[22:38:00] darkdrgn3k: using mplayer how do i plan an m2v file and a wave file
[22:38:00] darkdrgn3k: together
[22:39:00] dave__: Anyone here have sucess with btaudio?
[22:40:00] cesman: dave__: a long time ago
[22:40:00] dave__: remeber anything?
[22:40:00] cesman: with a Hauppauge WinTV 401
[22:40:00] GreyFoxx: DarkBeer: hrm, mplayer -fs -zoom -audiofile blah.wav file.m2v
[22:41:00] cesman: yeah, I remember what a pain it was
[22:41:00] dave__: Ive got a wintv go
[22:41:00] cesman: only certain card support btaudio
[22:42:00] cesman: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . ight=btaudio
[22:42:00] cesman: may help
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[22:42:00] darkdrgn3k: thanx
[22:43:00] darkdrgn3k: is thre an option that will give me the filename witout the extencion???
[22:43:00] darkdrgn3k: ie instead ove MOVIE.m2v just movie
[22:44:00] Netslayer: anyone offer advice on my mythdvd question?
[22:44:00] dave__: cesman, I might be getting closer
[22:44:00] GreyFoxx: DarkBeer: An option where ? In myth ?
[22:44:00] GreyFoxx: err darkdr: I meant
[22:44:00] cesman: :)
[22:44:00] Fitzsimmons: anyone know how to set X11 to 1080i or 720p resolution?
[22:45:00] GreyFoxx: vi xorg.conf ?
[22:46:00] Amankhan: Odd problem – I have 2 capture cards installed & 2 video sources installed. Checking Mythweb, it shows I have 7 encoders? How is that? (the cards are pvr150 & pvr250)
[22:47:00] Amankhan: Says I have 2 local encoders & 3 remote? (Total is 6, not 7 encoders)
[22:48:00] dave__: I keep getting an NVR error unknown audio codec?
[22:49:00] dave__: Im encoding using mp3
[22:49:00] Netslayer: Amankhan, you define multiple input connectors -> sources?
[22:49:00] Netslayer: on the same card?
[22:50:00] Amankhan: No I did not
[22:50:00] Amankhan: Both are using Tuner 0, as each have their own coax cable connection
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[22:52:00] dave__: I dont get it, I've setup the v4l recording profiles a few time but my backend still asks me to do it?
[22:52:00] dave__: I think this could have something to do with my audio problems
[23:00:00] darkdrgn3k: there is no -audiofile marap
[23:01:00] GreyFoxx: darkdrgn3k: There is on my version according to the manpage
[23:03:00] darkdrgn3k: how come mplayer always killas my keyboard input..
[23:03:00] GreyFoxx: when spawned from mythtv ?
[23:03:00] darkdrgn3k: GreyFoxx: both
[23:03:00] darkdrgn3k: GreyFoxx: myth or command line
[23:04:00] GreyFoxx: well often that problem is due to someone not running a window manager and loosing focus of the window
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[23:04:00] darkdrgn3k: GreyFoxx: that would do it.. LOL whats a light wm?
[23:04:00] GreyFoxx: there are tons
[23:04:00] GreyFoxx: icewm, fluxbox, ratpoinsion
[23:04:00] darkdrgn3k: icewm light?
[23:05:00] GreyFoxx: err poison
[23:05:00] GreyFoxx: that's what I use on my mythboxes and my desktops
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[23:09:00] darkdrgn3k: GreyFoxx: how do you auto start a proggy in ratpoison
[23:09:00] GreyFoxx: normally by checking out www.google.com
[23:09:00] GreyFoxx: and I meant that I use icewm on my boxes, not ratpoision :)
[23:10:00] DonLKSAB2: Happy new year!!
[23:10:00] DonLKSAB2: 00.17 in Sweden now :-)
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[23:13:00] darkdrgn3k: any one know by any chance how to auto start a proggy with rat poison
[23:14:00] sportman: crap
[23:15:00] sportman: time to disconnect
[23:15:00] sportman: brb
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[23:20:00] sportman: back
[23:20:00] sportman: am i still connected?
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[23:20:00] sportmankid: .
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[23:21:00] sportman: yey
[23:21:00] sportman: im back
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[23:23:00] sportman: crap
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[23:37:00] sportman: sooooooo
[23:39:00] dave__: Is there something magical you have to do to start a rip?
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[23:41:00] xris: Beirdo: time to upgrade your mythweb
[23:43:00] xris: only 5 tickets to go...
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[23:44:00] DanMeister: Morning all. Happy 2006 to all.
[23:44:00] xris: it's nowhere near 2006 here
[23:45:00] DanMeister: It's been 2006 here for almost 10 hours. Catch up!
[23:46:00] xris: DanMeister: I am as fast as I can... one minute per minute
[23:53:00] darkdrgn3k: i tried making a .ratpoisonrc file but it no work
[23:53:00] darkdrgn3k: any one haver any ideas
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[23:56:00] DanMeister: xris: Each minute you continue to spend in 2005, is another minute that I enjoy in 2006. :-P
[23:56:00] xris: yeah
[23:56:00] xris: just makes me slightly younger. :)
[23:57:00] DanMeister: xris: And me slightly older. Respect your elders.
[23:57:00] xris: I'd rather be young.
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