| Tuesday, December 27th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | a1fa: | what is tht? |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | Arrested Development, Full Metal Alchemist, Ghost in the Shell, Harvey Birdman, Home Movies, House, Inuyasha, Iron Chef, Iron Chef America, Kid Notorious, Mail Call, Mission Hill, Monk, My Name is Earl, MythBusters, Naruto, Reno 911, Robot Chicken, Samurai Champloo, Sealap 2021, Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, Stargate Atlantis, Stargate SG-1, The Big Build, The Boondocks, The Colbert Report, The Venture Brothers, Tripping the Rift |
| [00:01:00] | Goshen (n=Goshen@67-40-107-29.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:01:00] | a1fa: | hm |
| [00:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Are they making new episodes of Home Movies? |
| [00:01:00] | a1fa: | i am more a real fan |
| [00:01:00] | a1fa: | :) |
| [00:01:00] | a1fa: | i am recording Flip THis House |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, sadly, not |
| [00:02:00] | Goshen (n=Goshen@67-40-107-29.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [00:02:00] | laga: | when i heard first about mythbusters, i thought it was some 3rd-party script for mythtv... |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [00:03:00] | sPiN: | i looove mythbusters :) |
| [00:03:00] | a1fa: | yeah |
| [00:03:00] | a1fa: | nothing new tho |
| [00:03:00] | sPiN: | arrested development has been great as well, damn fox! :( |
| [00:04:00] | jonK: | kormoc, you missed sqidbillies |
| [00:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | '' |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | I can't stand squidbillies |
| [00:04:00] | sPiN: | its like family guy, then futurama, now AD as the best shows ever canceled |
| [00:04:00] | a1fa: | family guy caneled? |
| [00:04:00] | laga: | sPiN: there will be another season of futurama, i think. maybe DVD only |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | Futurama might come back. The creater guy says he's expecting a call anyday now |
| [00:05:00] | jonK: | well, i see we all read slashdot |
| [00:05:00] | sPiN: | yeah i saw that recently |
| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, it was, it ran for awhile, fox canceled it, then dvd sales rocked so much, they brought it back |
| [00:05:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [00:05:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [00:05:00] | a1fa: | futurama was crazy |
| [00:05:00] | a1fa: | i saw the movie |
| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | there is no futurama movie |
| [00:05:00] | laga: | movie? |
| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | you mean the family guy movie |
| [00:05:00] | laga: | (i liked the simpsons episode titled "future-drama" |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | the thing about futurama is, there's something like 108 shows done that have never been aired. They are sitting there ready to roll, fox just won't... |
| [00:06:00] | sPiN: | how does time shifting work with myth? i dont see any options for it |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | you record, and then play it when you want to see it |
| [00:06:00] | laga: | or you enter livetv and hit "pause" |
| [00:07:00] | sPiN: | well what about taking out commercials? i saw an option for setting a commercial flag, thats about it |
| [00:07:00] | sPiN: | laga: yeah thats what im doing to seinfeld now... i paused, figure ill unpause in another 5 min or so |
| [00:07:00] | Kabutor: | anyone here uses mythgame svn? I get the roms sorted by year or category, but cant go into any option, only by name |
| [00:08:00] | awstott (n=awstott@S01060080c8b3f91f.ed.shawcable.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [00:08:00] | a1fa: | when is prison break coming back? |
| [00:08:00] | sPiN: | like march or something iirc |
| [00:08:00] | a1fa: | iirc |
| [00:08:00] | a1fa: | ;P |
| [00:08:00] | phatmonkey^iBook (n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [00:08:00] | sPiN: | definitely an M' month |
| [00:10:00] | jonK: | march, at least accordcing to the voice over at the end of the last aired episode |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, iirc == If I Recall Correctly |
| [00:11:00] | laga: | kormoc: so? |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | laga, hrm? |
| [00:11:00] | laga: | kormoc: duh, never mind :)) |
| [00:17:00] | Lad (n=manish@222.11.169.217.in-addr.arpa) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
| [00:23:00] | tdb30_ (n=knoppix@dsl081-143-042.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [00:25:00] | psofa: | The database environment variables are not correctly set in the |
| [00:25:00] | psofa: | included .htaccess file |
| [00:25:00] | psofa: | no idea what to do |
| [00:25:00] | psofa: | in the error it says |
| [00:26:00] | psofa: | Some possible solutions are to make sure that mod_env is enabled |
| [00:26:00] | psofa: | in httpd.conf, |
| [00:29:00] | psofa: | how do i enable mod_env |
| [00:29:00] | kormoc: | it's likely compiled in |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | psofa, apache2 -l to list the compiled in modules |
| [00:30:00] | psofa: | core.c |
| [00:30:00] | psofa: | prefork.c |
| [00:30:00] | psofa: | http_core.c |
| [00:30:00] | psofa: | mod_so.c |
| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | cat /etc/apache2/apache2-builtin-mods | grep env |
| [00:31:00] | psofa: | its there |
| [00:31:00] | Kabutor (n=kabutor@4.Red-81-37-200.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | psofa, cat /etc/apache2/httpd.conf | grep env_module |
| [00:34:00] | psofa: | its there |
| [00:34:00] | kormoc: | then you have it |
| [00:38:00] | psofa: | whats the vhosts use flag? |
| [00:38:00] | psofa: | for mythweb |
| [00:38:00] | kormoc: | it enables useage of the webapp-config script to deal with apache virtual hosts |
| [00:38:00] | a1fa (n=a1fa@24.144.51.32) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [00:39:00] | psofa: | so i dont need that? |
| [00:39:00] | kormoc: | only if you're gonna use webapp-config |
| [00:39:00] | psofa: | the ebuild uses it |
| [00:39:00] | psofa: | Running //usr/sbin/webapp-config -I -h localhost -u root -d /mythweb-svn mythweb-svn 0.18 |
| [00:40:00] | kormoc: | yes, it auto installs into the default localhost vhost, with it set, it doesn't auto install |
| [00:40:00] | psofa: | oh |
| [00:40:00] | kormoc: | so it's there incase you deal with multiple vhosts and you want to use webapp-config |
| [00:40:00] | psofa: | ok ty for your help |
| [00:43:00] | Gumby (n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [00:43:00] | Gumby (n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | HOW CAN I DEBUG THIS |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | erm srry |
| [00:49:00] | psofa: | caps |
| [00:50:00] | phoner (n=hpauto@CPE-65-26-234-156.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:50:00] | psofa: | i mean i only get a crappy error saying that it doesnt like my .htaccess |
| [00:50:00] | psofa: | how can i see a more detailed message? |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | you can't |
| [00:51:00] | Krazylegz: | What's the message text? |
| [00:51:00] | redgolem: | anyone know how to get a dvb AND analogue card sharing video source? |
| [00:51:00] | psofa: | The database environment variables are not correctly set in the |
| [00:51:00] | psofa: | included .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included |
| [00:51:00] | psofa: | in the file and set up the db_* environment variables correctly |
| [00:52:00] | psofa: | 127.0.0.1 is localhost right? |
| [00:52:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [00:54:00] | darkgumby (n=jfox@d1c47c0e.gw104.dsl.airmail.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:54:00] | Anduin (n=awithers@adsl-69-110-59-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:55:00] | psofa: | how do i list the mysql databases.im in the mysql promt |
| [00:55:00] | redgolem: | never mind, apparently you can have 2 video sources and make the overlapping channels have the same callsign |
| [00:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: "show databases; |
| [00:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | " |
| [00:56:00] | psofa: | thanks |
| [00:56:00] | darkgumby: | I've just installed knopmyth and need help with a USB WLAN adapter – anybody wanna help? |
| [00:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Try #Knoppmyth for distro specific stuff |
| [00:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | otherwise, google is your friend |
| [00:57:00] | darkgumby: | ok, thanks |
| [00:58:00] | jemarcks__ (n=jemarcks@cpe-67-9-156-75.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:59:00] | jemarcks_ (n=jemarcks@cpe-67-9-156-75.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [01:02:00] | psofa: | Some possible solutions are to make sure that mod_env is enabled |
| [01:02:00] | psofa: | in httpd.conf, as well as having followed the instructions in the |
| [01:02:00] | psofa: | README about the AllowOverride settings. |
| [01:02:00] | psofa: | what allooverride settings its talking about? |
| [01:02:00] | psofa: | *allow |
| [01:02:00] | darkgumby (n=jfox@d1c47c0e.gw104.dsl.airmail.net) Quit ("BitchX Official IRC Channel -- #BitchX on EFNet") | |
| [01:04:00] | redgolem (n=Dean@83.245.47.120) Quit ("Quitting!") | |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | psofa, did you read the section of the readme? |
| [01:05:00] | psofa: | you mean the documentation im myths site? |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | mythweb's readme |
| [01:06:00] | psofa: | wheres that |
| [01:06:00] | psofa: | ? |
| [01:06:00] | psofa: | xD |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | ... |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | in the mythweb directory perhaps? |
| [01:07:00] | Anduin (n=awithers@adsl-69-110-59-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [01:07:00] | abarbaccia (n=monolith@ool-457297ef.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [01:08:00] | chickeneater (n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) Quit ("byiesr alib ael aealikj nlkae alnek laji alkna; ;lak esfora nlkes jet") | |
| [01:14:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3566734.sympatico.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:18:00] | corpix64 (n=corpix@p54BDCC0D.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:19:00] | corpix64: | hi |
| [01:20:00] | psofa: | nice |
| [01:20:00] | psofa: | it was the allowoveride crap |
| [01:20:00] | psofa: | stupid ebuilds |
| [01:20:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [01:21:00] | psofa: | mythweb is nice |
| [01:21:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [01:21:00] | psofa: | yay |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | it took me a few tries to get that issue resolved as psofa ... don't feel bad |
| [01:25:00] | monolith (n=monolith@ool-457297ef.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:26:00] | psofa: | it took me 2 hours or sth :( |
| [01:26:00] | psofa: | bad bad ebuilds |
| [01:26:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [01:26:00] | kormoc: | it's not the ebuild's fault... |
| [01:26:00] | psofa: | the ebuild didnt tell me anything though |
| [01:26:00] | psofa: | usually in ebuilds |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | yeah, cause you read the php one so well... :P |
| [01:27:00] | psofa: | the things you have to do manually come up in the end as a nice message |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | it was a recent change in mythweb, not really a fault of the ebuild |
| [01:27:00] | psofa: | oh |
| [01:27:00] | psofa: | then it isnt |
| [01:28:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [01:28:00] | psofa: | damn svn i new id get into trouble |
| [01:28:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [01:29:00] | kormoc: | where did you get svn ebuilds of mythweb/mythtv? |
| [01:31:00] | psofa: | erm |
| [01:31:00] | psofa: | w8 |
| [01:31:00] | monolith: | hey – someone want to look at my error for mythfrontend (it crashes when i go to the guide) |
| [01:31:00] | psofa: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66337 |
| [01:31:00] | monolith: | where the little box is displayed |
| [01:31:00] | monolith: | *** |
| [01:31:00] | monolith: | * Couldn't find Xv support, falling back to non-Xv mode. |
| [01:31:00] | monolith: | * MythTV performance will be much slower since color |
| [01:31:00] | monolith: | * conversion and scaling will be done in software. |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | * Consider upgrading your video card or X server if |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | * you would like better performance. |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | X Error: XvBadPort 152 |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | Major opcode: 141 |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | Minor opcode: 15 |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | Resource id: 0xffffffff |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | X Error: XvBadPort 152 |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | Major opcode: 141 |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | Minor opcode: 14 |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | Resource id: 0xffffffff |
| [01:32:00] | kormoc: | psofa, those are so not supported by gentoo, it's really not something for a newbie to mess with. |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | 2005-12–26 20:24:08.964 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | You likely won't get any video. |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | ehh – sorry bout that |
| [01:32:00] | poop: | stop fucking spamming |
| [01:32:00] | psofa: | kormoc, how you dare calling me a noob :p |
| [01:32:00] | monolith: | poop, stop fucking cursing |
| [01:33:00] | poop: | piss off |
| [01:33:00] | psofa: | lol |
| [01:33:00] | kormoc: | ... |
| [01:33:00] | ** poop eyes his WoW box ** | |
| [01:33:00] | kormoc: | monolith, honestly, you want help, and so you tell someone to stop cursing while cursing yourself, after flooding the channel, even tho the topic tells you to use a pastebin? |
| [01:33:00] | poop: | I'm afraid it may claim my soul. |
| [01:34:00] | monolith: | kormoc, it was a mistake – calm yourself – and i said it to poop to joke around with him |
| [01:34:00] | psofa: | kormoc, as i said i wouldnt touch them but i have a reason -> dvb-s |
| [01:34:00] | monolith is now known as abarbaccia | |
| [01:34:00] | poop: | pizza time! |
| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | sorry |
| [01:35:00] | kormoc: | abarbaccia, it really isn't 'joking' if others don't know. |
| [01:35:00] | psofa: | lol |
| [01:35:00] | ** poop kneeds abarbaccia into a fine dough ** | |
| [01:35:00] | kormoc: | abarbaccia, in anycase, you likely should get some XV support working |
| [01:35:00] | poop: | kneads? |
| [01:35:00] | psofa: | it depends on what joking means |
| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | yeah, i think i need to do that |
| [01:38:00] | adante_ (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:38:00] | nothingman (n=chatzill@pool-129-44-237-137.syr.east.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:38:00] | abarbaccia: | kormoc, even without xv it shouldnt crash on the frontend |
| [01:39:00] | poop: | These alien WoW chicks are hot. |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | no, but it points to a video driver issue |
| [01:41:00] | nothingman: | anyone here know if a 3c905 (with "Parallel Tasking") might help me with a Myth box that crashes under heavy network loads? |
| [01:42:00] | nothingman: | I'm using a trusty Netgear FA310TX that I've used forever right now |
| [01:42:00] | kormoc: | depends on why it's crashing |
| [01:42:00] | psofa: | btw anyone knows why mythweather wont download the god damn satelite pictures |
| [01:42:00] | nothingman: | well, if I ssh -X, use more than one mythfrontend connected to it, or try to mount an nfs share for a while, it crashes |
| [01:43:00] | nothingman: | any idea how I might find out what's doing it? |
| [01:43:00] | kormoc: | what crashes? |
| [01:43:00] | nothingman: | not sure |
| [01:44:00] | nothingman: | the screen freezes, sometimes the mouse continues to work, can't ssh into it, have no way of finding out that I know of |
| [01:44:00] | nothingman: | what log files should I check? |
| [01:44:00] | kormoc: | the /var/log/messages would be a good start |
| [01:45:00] | nothingman: | OK |
| [01:45:00] | nothingman: | was just checking that |
| [01:46:00] | nothingman: | ah |
| [01:46:00] | nothingman: | seems like last night it crashed because of my bttv driver |
| [01:46:00] | abarbaccia (n=monolith@ool-457297ef.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy (n=pitaboy@adsl-221-105-195.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes) |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw firmware (262144 bytes) |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv0 warning: Encoder mailbox not found |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv0 warning: invalid api mailbox |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv0: error getting Encoder firmware version |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv0: Error -19 getting firmware version! |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv0: Error -19 on initialization |
| [01:47:00] | PITABoy: | what do i do |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | PITABoy, first. dpm |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | *don't spam the channel |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | second, try gettings a different version of the firmware |
| [01:49:00] | PITABoy: | what is a good version? |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | the one recommended on the ivtv website? |
| [01:49:00] | PITABoy: | ok |
| [01:50:00] | psofa: | im i missing something? uk weather doesnt work too so im thinking that maybe ive installed something wrong here? |
| [01:50:00] | PITABoy: | are you using 0.4.1? |
| [01:52:00] | kormoc: | I'm using 0.4.0 |
| [01:52:00] | PITABoy: | brb |
| [01:52:00] | PITABoy: | maybe |
| [01:52:00] | PITABoy (n=pitaboy@adsl-221-105-195.rmo.bellsouth.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [01:57:00] | adante (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [01:57:00] | adante_ is now known as adante | |
| [01:59:00] | psofa: | is there a way to disable all maps in mythweather? |
| [02:01:00] | adante_ (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:01:00] | twisted_one (n=mmschnei@c-24-15-99-247.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [02:04:00] | Servo888 (n=Servo888@pcp0011429096pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [02:05:00] | Gumby (n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [02:07:00] | spiderworm (n=David@blender/support/spiderworm) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:09:00] | spiderworm: | hi all, i have a mythtv box up and running great, had a smaller, 27 inch screen, today i bought a hdtv and hooked up the mythtv box to it, when watching tv, the video looks all crappy, blocky, pixelly, even with RTJpeg quality bumped all the way up.... |
| [02:09:00] | spiderworm: | it only letting me set resolution max of 720 x 480... |
| [02:09:00] | Shadowpillar (n=Shadow@global-66-81-104-122.dialup.o1.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:09:00] | poop: | spiderworm: That's all you'll get from SDTV. |
| [02:10:00] | spiderworm: | poop: SDTV? |
| [02:10:00] | poop: | spiderworm: Can your machine do realtime mpeg-4? |
| [02:10:00] | spiderworm: | poop: yeah i can change to mpeg-4 |
| [02:10:00] | poop: | poop: standard def (vs. high def) |
| [02:10:00] | spiderworm: | oh ok |
| [02:10:00] | spiderworm: | ty |
| [02:10:00] | spiderworm: | changed codec to mpeg-4 |
| [02:11:00] | poop: | spiderworm: I recommend turning on as many mpeg-4 options as your box can handle. |
| [02:11:00] | poop: | My athlon64 3000+ produces some pretty nice mpeg-4 |
| [02:11:00] | jonK: | poop, is the nickname a sign of low self-esteem? |
| [02:11:00] | spiderworm: | poop: what about changing the resolution... i want to get it up to 1024x768.... |
| [02:11:00] | spiderworm: | poop: i have a similar processor |
| [02:11:00] | poop: | jonK: I hope not. |
| [02:11:00] | spiderworm: | tho not 64 bit |
| [02:11:00] | jonK: | or disappointment in mythtv not functioning |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | spiderworm, you can output at any res, just can't record in from that res |
| [02:12:00] | jonK: | so long as it's not self-referential |
| [02:12:00] | poop: | spider: You should definitely be using an HD resolution in your X server. |
| [02:12:00] | Shadowpillar: | I keep getting "invalid arguement" when I access /dev/video0 |
| [02:12:00] | spiderworm: | kormoc: why cant i record in from that res? |
| [02:12:00] | Shadowpillar: | using the ivtv driver |
| [02:12:00] | Shadowpillar: | and loaded the firmware for my card |
| [02:12:00] | spiderworm: | poop: how do i go about doing that? |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | spiderworm, the input from the wall jack isn't that high |
| [02:12:00] | psofa (n=psofa@ppp20-adsl-234.ath.forthnet.gr) Quit ("ΑναχωÏεί") | |
| [02:12:00] | poop: | spiderworm: Hardware limitation, and there would be no point in recording SDTV at higher than that. |
| [02:13:00] | poop: | spiderworm: I would google for a Modeline for your display. |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | spiderworm, so like, why store the pixels stretched? |
| [02:13:00] | spiderworm: | kormoc: i c... |
| [02:14:00] | Shadowpillar (n=Shadow@global-66-81-104-122.dialup.o1.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [02:14:00] | redline-: | anyone know a site with a working boot image i can use on cd to flash a bios so i dont have to install 2 floppies in my machines |
| [02:14:00] | spiderworm: | poop: i will google for that, thanks |
| [02:14:00] | kormoc: | redline-, google might |
| [02:14:00] | spiderworm: | poop: right now the box when in X is displaying at 1024 x 768... is that what you mean i should set up? |
| [02:14:00] | kormoc: | yeah, that's not a HD res |
| [02:15:00] | redline-: | i did google and 3 of the the ones i used freeze at startup |
| [02:15:00] | redline-: | they dont load ms dos, they are a free version of dos |
| [02:15:00] | kormoc: | freedos, aye, cause you can't distribute msdos. |
| [02:16:00] | fanatic (n=jparrott@pcp01488192pcs.limstn01.de.comcast.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [02:16:00] | so_: | drdos is out there too |
| [02:16:00] | kormoc: | it's not free is it? |
| [02:16:00] | redline-: | i think it is |
| [02:17:00] | k-man (n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [02:17:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [02:17:00] | kormoc: | http://www.drdos.com/products/drdos703.htm |
| [02:17:00] | kormoc: | $35 |
| [02:19:00] | so_: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS#Current_Versions |
| [02:19:00] | redline-: | found a site with free drdos gonna try it now |
| [02:19:00] | so_: | released as OpenDos by Caldera |
| [02:19:00] | so_: | Lots of boot disks available at http://www.bootdisk.com/ as well |
| [02:20:00] | adante (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [02:20:00] | ** poop tries to remember how he made his usb flash drive dos-bootable ** | |
| [02:21:00] | jonK (i=js2638@xmission.xmission.com) Quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") | |
| [02:21:00] | poop: | Some other vendor had a utility I think. |
| [02:21:00] | so_: | http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm |
| [02:22:00] | adante (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:24:00] | redline-: | the ones at bootdisk.com did not work they ended up haning my machine |
| [02:24:00] | redline-: | the one i just found worked like a charm! |
| [02:24:00] | poop: | Aren't peecees fun!? |
| [02:25:00] | redline-: | it was a nero boot image file using caldera |
| [02:28:00] | twisted_one (n=mmschnei@c-24-15-99-247.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:29:00] | spiderworm: | anyone know about this? http://www.cyberestore.com/product_info.php?c . . . ducts_id=103 ... does it work well with hdtv? |
| [02:30:00] | Servo888 (n=Servo888@pcp0011429096pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:35:00] | dhofstra_ (n=dhofstra@c-67-177-112-29.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:38:00] | maniacxs (n=maniacxs@p54AB47B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [02:38:00] | maniacxs (n=maniacxs@p54AB4398.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:41:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3566734.sympatico.ca) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [02:43:00] | roka (n=roka@81-236-209-240-no28.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:44:00] | roka: | how should i do to find my tv channels? |
| [02:44:00] | adante_ (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [02:44:00] | poop: | roka: Did the documentation fail? |
| [02:44:00] | nothingman: | what do I need for frontend machines to find my music on the server? |
| [02:45:00] | nothingman: | do I need to share the directory through nfs? |
| [02:45:00] | nothingman: | or does mythbackend automagically pass the files along? |
| [02:46:00] | roka: | poop: i didnt see anything about it in the docs |
| [02:47:00] | poop: | roka: You didn't see the part about channel listings? |
| [02:47:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:52:00] | dhofstra (n=dhofstra@c-67-177-112-29.hsd1.in.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | nothingman: You need to share it |
| [03:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mythbackend only streams recordings/livetv |
| [03:08:00] | redline- (n=redline@24.229.145.153.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [03:10:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [03:12:00] | redline- (n=redline@24.229.145.153.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:14:00] | nothingman: | GreyFoxx: anything specific? |
| [03:15:00] | nothingman: | do I share all of /myth/ ? |
| [03:15:00] | nothingman: | and how do I mount it on the frontends? |
| [03:16:00] | Servo888: | I've got some recordings, which I never recorded... But anyways when I try to delete them they still exist there... |
| [03:17:00] | Servo888: | Deleting them does nothing |
| [03:17:00] | kormoc: | Servo888, you need to delete them from the database |
| [03:18:00] | Servo888: | grr. Ok =\ |
| [03:18:00] | kormoc: | delete from recorded and oldrecorded |
| [03:20:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | nothingman: Share whatever you want access to from the other machine, I have no idea what your directory structure is like :) |
| [03:21:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Client Quit) | |
| [03:22:00] | nothingman: | right, but how will KnoppMyth know how to access it, for instance? |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | mount manually, through an init script, or add mount entries to fstab |
| [03:24:00] | Moodles (i=Tallarin@203-173-9-43.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [03:24:00] | PIXXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-46-13.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:24:00] | nothingman: | so it will mount the whole /myth on itself as an nfs share? |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will mount whatever you tell it to , wherever you tell it to :) |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | You have the power :) |
| [03:25:00] | PickleS (n=piccolo@host-87-74-41-26.bulldogdsl.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:25:00] | kormoc: | Knowledge is power! |
| [03:26:00] | nothingman: | but if it's grabbing the database's list of mp3 |
| [03:26:00] | kormoc: | each frontend has it's own mythmusic setup, which can be unique I beleive |
| [03:26:00] | nothingman: | *mp3's, won't it try to access those files from the server? |
| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will try to access them in the same directory structure locally |
| [03:27:00] | nothingman: | gotcha |
| [03:27:00] | kormoc: | hrm, thats's sucky |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | so if they are on /data/mp3 on the other machine, it will look at /data/mp3 on the localbox |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or at least the directories under the main directory |
| [03:28:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:28:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, does mythvideo have the same restriction? |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe so |
| [03:29:00] | roka (n=roka@81-236-209-240-no28.tbcn.telia.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [03:29:00] | kormoc: | wow, that should get fixed up sometime. |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why? |
| [03:30:00] | kormoc: | seems restrictive to force a path of /mnt/shared/Multimedia/Music on all satalite comptuers imho |
| [03:30:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't see it that way |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | and on mine it's /data/whatever |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | /data/mythtv /data/video and /data/mp3 /data/gallery |
| [03:31:00] | kormoc: | certain computers on my network have the entire shared folder access, others only music, for example |
| [03:32:00] | kormoc: | so so, it would seem icky to have to define two shares, and deal with double permissions |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then had 2 shares |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | one that shares it all, and one that shares just that dir |
| [03:32:00] | kormoc: | well, certain comptuers have access to nothin |
| [03:32:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [03:32:00] | riksta (n=rick@87.113.11.91.bbplus.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I honestly don't see it as an issue that/'s worth any effort, but to eac htheir own |
| [03:34:00] | corpix64 (n=corpix@p54BDCC0D.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | As far as I know every part of myth expects common mount points |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythgame, video, gallery, music |
| [03:35:00] | Kyler_ (n=chatzill@lairds.us) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [03:35:00] | hunterotd (n=hunter@68-184-3-236.dhcp.mmll.ar.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:39:00] | simcop2387-802 (n=simcop23@66-190-145-253.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:39:00] | simcop2387-802 (n=simcop23@66-190-145-253.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [03:43:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [03:44:00] | redline- (n=redline@24.229.145.153.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:44:00] | mishehu: | hmm... why would it be advantageous to deinterlace recordings I made with my pvr250 in mythtv when I transcode them from mpeg2 to mpeg4? |
| [03:45:00] | ratbert90 (n=ratbert9@24-116-136-57.cpe.cableone.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:45:00] | ratbert90: | hi! |
| [03:46:00] | cesman: | hello |
| [03:46:00] | ratbert90: | could anybody help me? I am using a ati tv wonder pro, and I finally got mythtv setup with all the channel listings and whatnot. HOWEVER, the Tv viewing quality is extreemly poor. :) Is there a fix for this? :D |
| [03:47:00] | \Grooby\_: | hey cesman |
| [03:47:00] | PIXXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-46-13.bulldogdsl.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:48:00] | cesman: | hello \Grooby\_ |
| [03:48:00] | Hoxzer (n=niko@dsl-hkigw2-fe1ede00-121.dhcp.inet.fi) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [03:48:00] | cesman: | ratbert90: perhaps changing your cable standard to cable-hrc.... |
| [03:48:00] | cesman: | or one of the other options |
| [03:48:00] | ratbert90: | ok |
| [03:48:00] | PIXXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-44-12.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:49:00] | ratbert90: | and I would do that in mythtv-setup correct? |
| [03:49:00] | cesman: | not infront of my system at the moment, but yes that is why I think it is |
| [03:49:00] | cesman: | note: You may also want to set the card and tuner type |
| [03:49:00] | ratbert90: | ok! Thank you so much! |
| [03:50:00] | cesman: | it maybe that v4l isn't setting is accurately |
| [03:50:00] | cesman: | you're welcome |
| [03:50:00] | ratbert90: | hrm |
| [03:50:00] | cesman: | hrm? |
| [03:50:00] | ratbert90: | If I didn't get a whole bunch of stuff for my computer for xmas, then I wouldn't mind doing this on my own |
| [03:50:00] | ratbert90: | but I recived a new monitor, a new soundcard, a tv tuner card, and a new mother board and a new sata hd |
| [03:50:00] | ratbert90: | so much stuff to learn in one day :| :P |
| [03:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | oops...made a big mistake..... |
| [03:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | set com flag start on recording..now my box load is 17.73 |
| [03:52:00] | dopesterMac (n=dopester@adsl-146-162-173.clt.bellsouth.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [03:52:00] | ratbert90: | video device is /dev/v4l/video0 |
| [03:52:00] | ratbert90: | thats correct |
| [03:52:00] | ratbert90: | and the default input is composite1 |
| [03:52:00] | ratbert90: | I belive thats correct |
| [03:53:00] | cesman: | yes, if you have video coming to composite of your tuner card |
| [03:53:00] | ratbert90: | yes sir |
| [03:53:00] | cesman: | so you are using the output from your cable box then? |
| [03:53:00] | cesman: | please don't call me sir... |
| [03:53:00] | ratbert90: | ... |
| [03:53:00] | cesman: | I'm just a regular fellow like you |
| [03:53:00] | ratbert90: | Sorry |
| [03:53:00] | ratbert90: | force of habit |
| [03:54:00] | cesman: | besides, I was only a Sergeant ;) |
| [03:54:00] | ratbert90: | and yes, I have a composit cable -> input on back of the tv tuner |
| [03:55:00] | ratbert90: | hrm |
| [03:55:00] | ratbert90: | none of the diffrent frequencies tend to make a diffrence :( |
| [03:56:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [03:57:00] | cesman: | you may need to specify card and tuner type |
| [03:57:00] | ratbert90: | ok |
| [03:57:00] | ratbert90: | how would I go about doing that |
| [03:57:00] | ratbert90: | I am sorry for the retarded questions |
| [03:58:00] | ratbert90: | I have just had so much trouble today with everything else that this is almost the last straw |
| [03:59:00] | cesman: | which distro are you using? |
| [04:00:00] | ratbert90: | slack current (10.2) |
| [04:00:00] | Nem^2 (n=Nem@p54ABE5B6.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:01:00] | cesman: | I've never used slack.... |
| [04:01:00] | cesman: | is there an /etc/modprobe.d directory? |
| [04:02:00] | bobc (n=bob@64-126-52-53-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:03:00] | ratbert90: | no |
| [04:03:00] | ratbert90: | theres a modprobe.conf |
| [04:03:00] | ratbert90: | :P |
| [04:04:00] | cesman: | that will do.... |
| [04:04:00] | cesman: | hold on a sec... |
| [04:04:00] | ratbert90: | ok |
| [04:05:00] | ratbert90: | again, I really appreciate what you are doing for me |
| [04:05:00] | ratbert90: | :) |
| [04:10:00] | cesman: | take a look at:http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31= |
| [04:10:00] | cesman: | that should get you started... |
| [04:11:00] | ratbert90: | hrm |
| [04:11:00] | ratbert90: | the problem is |
| [04:11:00] | ratbert90: | I am not using bttv |
| [04:11:00] | ratbert90: | I am using cx88 |
| [04:11:00] | ratbert90: | :( |
| [04:12:00] | cesman: | which kernel are you using? |
| [04:12:00] | ratbert90: | 2.6.14.4 |
| [04:12:00] | cesman: | use may want to upgrade to latest cx88 from linux.bytesex.org to get the latest drivers |
| [04:13:00] | ratbert90: | It looks like the latest update is from april 21 2004 |
| [04:13:00] | ratbert90: | which is older than the 2.6 kernels I belive |
| [04:14:00] | ratbert90: | so the kernel should have the latest |
| [04:16:00] | Nem^1 (n=Nem@p54ABE75D.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [04:16:00] | crazyhick (n=crazy__h@24.182.133.243) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:19:00] | cesman: | ratbert90: there is also a cardlist for cx88 (CARDLIST.cx88) |
| [04:20:00] | ratbert90: | -_p |
| [04:20:00] | ** ratbert90 is confused ** | |
| [04:21:00] | hansl002_ (n=bhansley@cpe-066-026-076-092.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [04:22:00] | hansl002_ (n=bhansley@cpe-066-026-076-092.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:24:00] | ratbert90: | oh for the love of god |
| [04:24:00] | ratbert90: | #(*)&%*( |
| [04:24:00] | ratbert90: | now my tv doesn't even look like tv |
| [04:24:00] | ratbert90: | it's scrambled |
| [04:25:00] | t00m (n=tom@203-59-65-68.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:25:00] | mishehu: | cable thief! |
| [04:25:00] | t00m: | hi |
| [04:26:00] | ratbert90: | ok |
| [04:26:00] | ratbert90: | thats fix |
| [04:26:00] | ratbert90: | ed |
| [04:26:00] | ratbert90: | but the low quality still exists |
| [04:26:00] | ratbert90: | :( |
| [04:30:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [04:32:00] | cesman: | ratbert90: http://blog.vrplumber.com/673 may help.... |
| [04:32:00] | ratbert90: | ok |
| [04:32:00] | ratbert90: | thanks! |
| [04:33:00] | t00m: | how do i set cut marks with the frontend? |
| [04:34:00] | cesman: | edit the record |
| [04:35:00] | cesman: | recording... |
| [04:35:00] | t00m: | yes, done that, i'm at the 1st frame of interest now |
| [04:35:00] | cesman: | delete before this point.... |
| [04:36:00] | t00m: | how? |
| [04:37:00] | cesman: | <enter> |
| [04:37:00] | t00m: | aha |
| [04:38:00] | ratbert90: | cesman |
| [04:38:00] | ratbert90: | thanks so much for the link! :D |
| [04:38:00] | cesman: | you're welcome |
| [04:39:00] | Fitzsimmons: | is there a developer reccomended distro for mythtv? |
| [04:39:00] | kormoc: | the one you know the best |
| [04:39:00] | Fitzsimmons: | ah |
| [04:39:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I know many distros poorly |
| [04:39:00] | Fitzsimmons: | that doesn't help me a lot ^^ |
| [04:40:00] | t00m: | well |
| [04:40:00] | t00m: | if i am in edit mode and increase the stepsize to 5 minutes and press right arrow, it exits |
| [04:41:00] | Fitzsimmons: | segfault? |
| [04:42:00] | crazyhick (n=crazy__h@24.182.133.243) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [04:43:00] | kormoc: | Fitzsimmons, you could try knopmyth |
| [04:43:00] | kristok (n=donovan@adsl-69-229-127-63.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:44:00] | jalex: | mythtv uses mplayer pretty extensively – anyone change it to use something else? |
| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [04:44:00] | nothingman: | xine here |
| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | no it doesn't use it extensively |
| [04:44:00] | nothingman: | there's brief how-to's on switching |
| [04:45:00] | Beirdo: | it barely uses it at all |
| [04:45:00] | kristok: | anyone know if the avermedia ultratv 1500 works with ivtv drivers? |
| [04:45:00] | Beirdo: | and only for mythvideo plugin |
| [04:45:00] | jalex: | I see it in about every 'settings' menu in mythtv I see |
| [04:45:00] | jalex: | from tv, video to recording |
| [04:45:00] | Beirdo: | it's only used by mythvideo |
| [04:45:00] | jalex: | ok |
| [04:45:00] | Beirdo: | you are imagining things, I think |
| [04:46:00] | jalex: | hehe |
| [04:46:00] | jalex: | maybe |
| [04:46:00] | Beirdo: | we all get confused some days :) |
| [04:47:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, bed |
| [04:47:00] | kristok: | does the avermedia ultratv 1500 work with ivtv? |
| [04:48:00] | kristok (n=donovan@adsl-69-229-127-63.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) Quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") | |
| [04:50:00] | nothingman: | [4294718.320000] bttv0: miro: id=3 tuner=2 radio=no stereo=no |
| [04:50:00] | nothingman: | what does that line mean (from dmesg)? |
| [04:55:00] | SeanW (n=sean@S010600105ae18ff9.sc.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [04:56:00] | kormoc: | nothingman, the card is id 3, the tuner is type 2, there is no radio, and there is no stereo sound ouput |
| [04:56:00] | jalex: | freaking sig11 from mplayer...irritating |
| [05:01:00] | SeanW: | Hi, my PVR-350 stopped recording sound after a recent upgrade from atrpms... I hear sound on older recordings, but anything for the past few days or livetv doesn't have any. Any idea where I should start looking? |
| [05:02:00] | cesman: | backend log |
| [05:02:00] | cesman: | start the frontend from an xterm and look at the output... |
| [05:03:00] | SeanW: | my box is headless... I'll redirect the output to a file |
| [05:04:00] | SeanW: | Though what does the frontend have to do with it? Sound works fine on old recordings, isn't it the backend that records? |
| [05:05:00] | SeanW: | ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin |
| [05:05:00] | SeanW: | ivtv0: did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory? |
| [05:05:00] | SeanW: | that's fron dmesg |
| [05:07:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:08:00] | Spida_ (i=Spida@p508A03C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:08:00] | kormoc: | SeanW, so did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory? |
| [05:09:00] | cesman: | I take it ivtv got upgrade to 4.1.... |
| [05:09:00] | SeanW: | kormoc: yes, it's in /lib/firmware |
| [05:09:00] | cesman: | read the readme on the ivtv site |
| [05:09:00] | SeanW: | cesman: I'm just on http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware# . . . ware_hotplug |
| [05:10:00] | PIXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-45-206.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:12:00] | PIXXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-44-12.bulldogdsl.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [05:13:00] | SeanW: | cesman: OK, I'm lost, I seem to be doing everything they're asking... I have the new firmware files and they're in the right dir |
| [05:13:00] | ratbert90: | now I will kill my computer |
| [05:14:00] | ratbert90: | I finally get audio working |
| [05:14:00] | ratbert90: | but now it won't show video |
| [05:14:00] | ratbert90: | Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. |
| [05:14:00] | ratbert90: | You likely won't get any video. |
| [05:14:00] | ratbert90: | =[ |
| [05:15:00] | Chacabaou (n=daniel@dialin.212.114.167.244.NEFkom.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [05:16:00] | cesman: | SeanW: sorry, cannot give you specifics... |
| [05:17:00] | cesman: | just pointing out the obvious stuff |
| [05:17:00] | t00m: | incredible |
| [05:17:00] | cesman: | thought perhaps you may have overlooked something |
| [05:17:00] | kormoc: | ratbert90, that error isn't really an error, you should see something after it |
| [05:17:00] | cesman: | I don't use Fedora myself... |
| [05:17:00] | t00m: | when i start alsamixer from a console, it works but in X it doesn't |
| [05:17:00] | SeanW: | er, wait a tick... enc/dec are in the right directories, init isn't |
| [05:18:00] | cesman: | alsamixer-gui perhaps? |
| [05:19:00] | ratbert90: | WTF |
| [05:20:00] | ratbert90: | now when I close mythtv my sound doesn't go away :| |
| [05:20:00] | Spida (i=Spida@p508A060E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [05:20:00] | t00m: | cesman: that can't be right |
| [05:21:00] | cesman: | ok |
| [05:21:00] | t00m: | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| [05:21:00] | cesman: | just trying to help |
| [05:21:00] | ratbert90 (n=ratbert9@24-116-136-57.cpe.cableone.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [05:21:00] | t00m: | if I start it with -D /dev/sound/mixer... |
| [05:21:00] | cesman: | now you give more details :) |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa (n=a1fa@24.144.51.32) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [05:22:00] | t00m: | ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/sound/mixer |
| [05:22:00] | t00m: | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for /dev/sound/mixer: No such file or directory |
| [05:22:00] | t00m: | but: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 0 Dec 27 02:43 /dev/sound/mixer |
| [05:22:00] | t00m: | and i am member of audio group |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa: | god damn it |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa: | mythbackend is dying |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa: | for no reason |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | no error generated |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | WTF |
| [05:23:00] | SeanW: | arg, no, still no sound. |
| [05:23:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, Digital Karma. |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | SeanW: what card? |
| [05:23:00] | SeanW: | alfa: pvr350 |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | SeanW: did you reboot and got the newest firmware? |
| [05:23:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, I donno what you did, but you need to follow Carson Daily and work on your karma. |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | dude |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | kormoc: i fell off a motorcycle for christmas, talk about bad carma |
| [05:24:00] | SeanW: | I updated to whatever atrpms is pushing out |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | atrpms? |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [05:24:00] | jalex (i=[U2FsdGV@user-0c937f8.cable.mindspring.com) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | u need to download from ivtvdriver |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | and compile from source |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | you lazy ass |
| [05:24:00] | SeanW: | a1fa: lol |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | SeanW, atrpms should be fine, you sure your permissions are correct? |
| [05:25:00] | SeanW: | kormoc: dmesg says it's loading all three files |
| [05:25:00] | kormoc: | SeanW, so the error now is? |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | did you reboot |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | kormoc: anyway to make mythbackend be more verbose? |
| [05:25:00] | SeanW: | kormoc: can't find an error message |
| [05:25:00] | SeanW: | a1fa: Yes |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | it crashes evrytime it records |
| [05:25:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, run it from a console rather then from the init.d script |
| [05:25:00] | kormoc: | SeanW, so what's the issue? no /dev/video0 created? |
| [05:26:00] | a1fa: | 2005-12–26 19:00:06.360 Started recording "Flip This House" on channel: 1031 on cardid: 1, sourceid 1 |
| [05:26:00] | a1fa: | 2005-12–26 19:00:08.315 adding: mytivo as a client (events: 0) |
| [05:26:00] | a1fa: | it died two minutes after |
| [05:26:00] | SeanW: | kormoc: Since I upgraded a few days ago, anything I record off the cable doesn't have sound. If I play an older recording, sound works fine. |
| [05:26:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, run it via gdb? |
| [05:26:00] | SeanW: | kormoc: no sound card in the mix, pvr350 out to tv, and the option under the hardware menu to do so is checked |
| [05:27:00] | kormoc: | SeanW, ahh, welp, do you have sound if it's run locally (not via the 350?) |
| [05:27:00] | a1fa: | i added -v all |
| [05:27:00] | a1fa: | hope that helps |
| [05:27:00] | a1fa: | damn my knees are killing me |
| [05:28:00] | SeanW: | kormoc: sorry, don't follow... I don't have a monitor on the box to watch tv if that's what you mean |
| [05:28:00] | kormoc: | SeanW, fair nuff. If I was you, I would just downgrade ivtv versions and leave it be |
| [05:28:00] | SeanW: | kormoc: I'll give it a try, thanks |
| [05:29:00] | DarkBeer: | yep, ivtv 0.2.0 keeps working fine here ;) |
| [05:31:00] | thechris: | i think i just got ivtv 0.4 myself |
| [05:31:00] | SeanW: | looks like atrpms updated to 0.4.1 on the 19th |
| [05:35:00] | t00m: | AAAAAA |
| [05:35:00] | t00m: | even in playback mode the movie stops |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | fuck |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | it died again |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | no error message |
| [05:36:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, gdb |
| [05:36:00] | DarkBeer: | take your mythbox for a ride on your motorcycle? :P |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | shit dude |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | no |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | i rode it tonight |
| [05:36:00] | a1fa: | my confidence is all gone |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa: | and my knees are killing me |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | give it a week and go out again |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | I've wreaked a decent bit on a cycle, and after a little, it all good again |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa: | its a motorcycle |
| [05:37:00] | nothingman (n=chatzill@pool-129-44-237-137.syr.east.verizon.net) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.0.7/20051010]") | |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, what was yours? |
| [05:42:00] | SeanW: | upgraded kernel, downgraded ivtv. wish me luck |
| [05:45:00] | SeanW: | note to self, remember to upgrade lirc-kmdl next time |
| [05:48:00] | hansl002_ (n=bhansley@cpe-066-026-076-092.nc.res.rr.com) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [05:50:00] | cesman: | good luck |
| [05:50:00] | SeanW: | eureka! |
| [05:50:00] | SeanW: | that was it |
| [05:51:00] | SeanW: | thanks, everyone |
| [05:51:00] | SeanW (n=sean@S010600105ae18ff9.sc.shawcable.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [06:00:00] | PIXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-45-206.bulldogdsl.com) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [06:09:00] | Servo888 (n=Servo888@pcp0011429096pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [06:10:00] | PIXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-44-128.bulldogdsl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:11:00] | t00m: | what is the mythtv doing when the frontend says: transcoding |
| [06:13:00] | t00m: | and why does it stop when i stop playback |
| [06:19:00] | Krazylegz (n=Krazyleg@pcp01478332pcs.quaryv01.pa.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [06:20:00] | kormoc: | t00m, transcoding is recoding the video file into better compression and what not |
| [06:20:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:20:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [06:21:00] | t00m: | kormoc: right, that's what i expected. do i need nuvexport for that? |
| [06:21:00] | Ediehow: | anyone using a nvidia card with two monitors? |
| [06:21:00] | kormoc: | only if you want to export the videos to play outside of myth |
| [06:21:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, I do |
| [06:22:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: well, i just switched to nvidia as recommended |
| [06:22:00] | Ediehow: | 6200 |
| [06:22:00] | stevenm (n=stevenm@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:22:00] | Ediehow: | but the 2nd monitor is not being used. there is not some auto config thingie? |
| [06:22:00] | stevenm: | Hi. Blank frame detection stopped working for me a few weeks ago. Where would I start looking to fix? |
| [06:22:00] | Ediehow: | like the ati driver has, when you can choose 2nd monitor big desktop? |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | first, make sure to be using the nvidia driver version 7676 |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | second, no there isn't, but it's easy to do |
| [06:22:00] | Ediehow: | they just came out with a new one dec 22 |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | and if you use it, you'll have issues with myth |
| [06:23:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it is pretty quick with nvidia's twinview |
| [06:23:00] | Ediehow: | r u sure you aren't referring to the previous one? i knew the one before the 22nd was bad |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | http://kormoc.homelinux.org/xorg.conf |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, the newest onces have the same issue |
| [06:23:00] | Ediehow: | hmm |
| [06:23:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: why don't u use a font server? |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | anyway, that's my xorg conf for tripple head with 2 videocards |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, why should I? |
| [06:24:00] | t00m: | kormoc: shouldn't transcoding be a background job? why does it error, when i stop playback? |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | t00m, donno, gonna have to ask someone else bout that |
| [06:25:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit ("Sho Ryu Ken") | |
| [06:25:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | woopsie |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | hey kormoc |
| [06:26:00] | t00m: | any ideas why myth stops playback of a recording after a few minutes where it should be 3 hours long? |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | you see that first section here |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.gmpf.de/index.php/NVidia:TwinView |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | is that really all i need add? |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | assuming my first monitor is working OK? |
| [06:26:00] | kormoc: | depending on how you want the output to be |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | i just want a big desktop mode type thing |
| [06:26:00] | kormoc: | then yes |
| [06:26:00] | Ediehow: | and 1024x768 on the 2nd monitor |
| [06:27:00] | Ediehow: | thx sir |
| [06:27:00] | Ediehow: | do u enable xga? |
| [06:27:00] | Ediehow: | err |
| [06:27:00] | Ediehow: | dga? |
| [06:27:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [06:27:00] | Ediehow: | oh so i replace my section screen with this one |
| [06:30:00] | Ediehow: | let's try |
| [06:31:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [06:31:00] | cwsmith (n=Ebless@72.24.100.173) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:31:00] | cwsmith: | is there a place (howto for the) ati tv wonder pro with usb remote ? |
| [06:32:00] | Eszenia_ (n=Eszenia@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:32:00] | Eszenia_: | hmm |
| [06:33:00] | Eszenia_: | kormoc, that didn't work quite right. the second monitor went to sleep again, and the first monitor |
| [06:33:00] | Eszenia_: | 's display seems to scroll left and right |
| [06:35:00] | Eszenia_: | i am assuming the first monitor, which works initially with nvidia setup, is monitor0 |
| [06:35:00] | Eszenia_: | so under screen i have |
| [06:35:00] | Eszenia_: | Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" |
| [06:35:00] | Eszenia_: | followed by the metamodes |
| [06:35:00] | Eszenia_: | followed by second monitor horizsync and vertrefresh |
| [06:36:00] | kormoc: | http://pastebin.ca/34965 |
| [06:36:00] | kormoc: | that should be similar to what you want |
| [06:37:00] | cesman: | cwsmith: what exactly are you looking for? |
| [06:38:00] | cesman: | does the tuner work? |
| [06:38:00] | cesman: | what remote are you referring to? |
| [06:39:00] | Eszenia_: | http://pastebin.ca/34965 |
| [06:39:00] | Eszenia_: | woops |
| [06:39:00] | Eszenia_: | http://pastebin.ca/479947 |
| [06:39:00] | Eszenia_: | i set that with the sync rates for 2nd monitor |
| [06:39:00] | Eszenia_: | so what did i do wrong? |
| [06:41:00] | kormoc: | what's your x.org log say? |
| [06:41:00] | Eszenia_: | they are both LCDs |
| [06:41:00] | Eszenia_: | hold on |
| [06:41:00] | Eszenia_: | i mean, xorg loads |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | as for the connected monitor string, you are defining the ports the monitors are on, not the actual monitors |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | so 2 lcds are still CRT, DFP |
| [06:46:00] | Eszenia_: | it just makes the first monitor the only display, and it scrolls to the right |
| [06:46:00] | Eszenia_: | oh, i just pasted that from that page :O |
| [06:46:00] | Eszenia_: | that pastebin link is my entire xorg.conf file |
| [06:46:00] | Eszenia_: | i don't think xorg |
| [06:46:00] | Eszenia_: | 's log mentions anything relevant, at least not from what i saw from tail |
| [06:47:00] | Eszenia_: | oh ok |
| [06:47:00] | Eszenia_: | well, i didn't even have that line, cuz i went according to that pagE:O |
| [06:47:00] | kormoc: | did you look at my pastebin? |
| [06:48:00] | Eszenia_: | i think i just fixed it |
| [06:48:00] | Eszenia_: | hold on |
| [06:48:00] | Eszenia_ (n=Eszenia@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit ("Larving") | |
| [06:49:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [06:49:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [06:49:00] | Ediehow: | ok, it seems to be working |
| [06:49:00] | Ediehow: | how do i verify that i am using xvmc? |
| [06:49:00] | Ediehow: | oh GREAT! |
| [06:49:00] | Ediehow: | i am having the same STUPID Problem as i had with video and the ati card!!!!!! |
| [06:50:00] | Fitzsimmons: | whee |
| [06:50:00] | Ediehow: | man! this is why i was told to buy an nvidia:( |
| [06:50:00] | Ediehow: | when i multitask, the video starts getting choppy |
| [06:50:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, did you make sure the xvmc is checked in the playback settings? |
| [06:50:00] | Fitzsimmons: | what's the problem? |
| [06:51:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc, "use hardware xvmc mpeg decoding"? |
| [06:51:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [06:51:00] | Ediehow: | k |
| [06:51:00] | Ediehow: | i thought X and stuff used that by default? |
| [06:51:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | hmm |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | if i turn on xvmc |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | Major opcode: 141 |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | Minor opcode: 14 |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | Resource id: 0x1bf |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 00:52:52.826 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | You likely won't get any video. |
| [06:53:00] | kormoc: | and? |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | i don't |
| [06:53:00] | Ediehow: | hold on |
| [06:54:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/479956 |
| [06:54:00] | cwsmith: | so anyone got a good place that can help with ati tv wonder pro cx88 and usb remote ? |
| [06:55:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, xvinfo and toss it into a pastebin |
| [06:55:00] | kormoc: | cwsmith, google? |
| [06:55:00] | cwsmith: | tried but i keep getting no where :) |
| [06:55:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/479957 |
| [06:56:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, what driver version are you using? |
| [06:56:00] | Ediehow: | nvidia? |
| [06:56:00] | cesman: | cwsmith: what exactly are you looking for? |
| [06:56:00] | cesman: | does the tuner work? |
| [06:56:00] | kormoc: | yeah, what nvidia driver version |
| [06:56:00] | cesman: | what remote are you referring to? |
| [06:56:00] | Ediehow: | the dec 22 one. |
| [06:56:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, what did I say way up there? |
| [06:56:00] | cwsmith: | no like the modprobe options for fc4 |
| [06:56:00] | Ediehow: | yeah, i thought you were referring to some other myth issue |
| [06:56:00] | cwsmith: | and like a lirc howto :) |
| [06:56:00] | kormoc: | that driver version has issues with myth. |
| [06:57:00] | cwsmith: | k what about a good ati usb remote howto :) |
| [06:58:00] | ** cesman thinks cwsmith is just ignoring this questions.... ** | |
| [06:58:00] | Ediehow: | so i have go to back to 7676? |
| [06:58:00] | cwsmith: | ya |
| [06:58:00] | cwsmith: | i know |
| [06:59:00] | cwsmith: | its just that i am setting up a frontednd |
| [06:59:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, if you want stable usage out of myth, yes |
| [06:59:00] | Ediehow: | k |
| [06:59:00] | cwsmith: | and the remote from ati would help |
| [06:59:00] | Ediehow: | and then i can use opengl whatever too, right? |
| [06:59:00] | Ediehow: | that option in myth |
| [06:59:00] | cwsmith: | but dont have to use the ati tv card :) |
| [06:59:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [06:59:00] | Ediehow: | i sure hope this fixes the multitasking thing |
| [06:59:00] | cwsmith: | i was reading that some people got the usb remote to work |
| [06:59:00] | Ediehow: | that's why i got an nvidia over my ati |
| [06:59:00] | cesman: | compile LIRC to use the ATI and use the lircd.conf and lircrc from here: http://mikenet.iwarp.com/MythTV/ATI_Remote_Wonder/ |
| [07:00:00] | cwsmith: | :) |
| [07:00:00] | cwsmith: | thanks |
| [07:00:00] | Moodles (i=Tallarin@203-173-32-5.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:00:00] | cesman: | there is also a kernel module for the remote, but LIRC is probably easier... |
| [07:00:00] | cesman: | you're welcome |
| [07:00:00] | Fitzsimmons: | doesn't lirc require kernel modules? |
| [07:00:00] | Ediehow: | ok, let me reinstall |
| [07:00:00] | Ediehow: | no fith |
| [07:00:00] | Ediehow: | fitz |
| [07:01:00] | kormoc: | lirc is a kernel module |
| [07:01:00] | Fitzsimmons: | oh really |
| [07:01:00] | Ediehow: | for me, it just needs access to serial port |
| [07:01:00] | Ediehow: | it is? |
| [07:01:00] | Fitzsimmons: | ah right |
| [07:01:00] | cwsmith: | ya i used lirc on my main box :) |
| [07:01:00] | kormoc: | sorta |
| [07:01:00] | Fitzsimmons: | good point |
| [07:01:00] | cwsmith: | which has a pvr350 which was really easy to set up :) |
| [07:01:00] | Ediehow: | i don't have an lirc module loaded |
| [07:01:00] | kormoc: | depends on which part of lirc you are using |
| [07:01:00] | Ediehow: | or even an lirc module compiled |
| [07:01:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I on the other hand need a few modules since I've got my receiver on a tuner card |
| [07:01:00] | Ediehow: | ok, let me go to 7676 real quick |
| [07:01:00] | Ediehow: | brb |
| [07:01:00] | Fitzsimmons: | makes sense |
| [07:01:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [07:03:00] | Cardoe (n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:06:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:06:00] | Ediehow: | that |
| [07:06:00] | Ediehow: | is fun |
| [07:06:00] | Ediehow: | now it just code rumps |
| [07:06:00] | Ediehow: | core dumps |
| [07:06:00] | kormoc: | what distro? |
| [07:06:00] | Ediehow: | fc4 |
| [07:07:00] | kormoc: | where'd you get myth? |
| [07:07:00] | Ediehow: | maybe it's cuz i enabled the opengl thing too |
| [07:07:00] | Ediehow: | repos, i've been using it for quite some time |
| [07:07:00] | Ediehow: | just not with xvmc |
| [07:07:00] | kormoc: | what opengl thing? |
| [07:07:00] | Ediehow: | the setting |
| [07:07:00] | Ediehow: | on the same page |
| [07:07:00] | kormoc: | what setting? |
| [07:07:00] | Ediehow: | sync |
| [07:07:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/479962 |
| [07:08:00] | kormoc: | it should be fine |
| [07:08:00] | Ediehow: | enable opengl vertical sync for timing |
| [07:08:00] | Ediehow: | :O |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | hey kormoc |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | did you test out that ebuild? |
| [07:08:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I certainly did |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | did it work? |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | I literally just drove back to my apartment. |
| [07:08:00] | Ediehow: | i wonder why it keeps core dumping |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | Just gonna unpack some stuff and test it out myself. |
| [07:09:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, there's a small issue with the backend not accepting connections from the frontend when started via the init.d script, and I havn't been able to track down why yet, but start it manually, and it's been working fine |
| [07:09:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [07:09:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| [07:09:00] | Cardoe: | so some change to the initscript isn't good. |
| [07:10:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: it no longer runs as root |
| [07:10:00] | Ediehow: | :O |
| [07:10:00] | Cardoe: | it runs as mythtv |
| [07:10:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, it does say something about direct rendering: yes, right? |
| [07:10:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, hrm. |
| [07:10:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/479962 |
| [07:12:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, yeah, the backend shuts down right away via the init.d script |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | I'll emerge it and tinker with the script |
| [07:13:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: any ideas? |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, so direct rendering is enabled? |
| [07:16:00] | Ediehow: | you mean in xorg.conf? |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, no, in glxinfo |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I'm wondering if it requres a shell |
| [07:17:00] | Ediehow: | http://pastebin.com/479965 |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | that's fine |
| [07:18:00] | Ediehow: | :O |
| [07:18:00] | kormoc: | dmesg shows anything odd? |
| [07:19:00] | Ediehow: | you mean after i run mythtv? |
| [07:20:00] | Ediehow: | i really hope the multitasking problems are gone:O |
| [07:20:00] | Ediehow: | that's specifically why I bought the nvidia card |
| [07:20:00] | Ediehow: | and replaced my radeon 9600se |
| [07:20:00] | Moodles: | anyone familiar with tzap? I'm running it on a tv station, signal says 4000 to 4d00 and snr is 4b00 to 5700.. does this mean strong reception? |
| [07:21:00] | lotia (n=lotia@pcp0011502605pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:22:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 01:21:41.864 Could not connect to LCDd: connection refused. |
| [07:22:00] | Ediehow: | i get that when running mythfrontend |
| [07:22:00] | Ediehow: | whatever that means |
| [07:23:00] | Cardoe: | Ediehow: that's fine... |
| [07:23:00] | kormoc: | you don't have a external lcd device |
| [07:23:00] | Ediehow: | so basically it;s |
| [07:23:00] | Ediehow: | Using XvMC version: 1.0 |
| [07:23:00] | Ediehow: | XvMC found and using IDCT surface |
| [07:23:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 01:23:04.708 Using XV port 270 |
| [07:23:00] | Ediehow: | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | so basically it comes down to your install of FC is foobared. |
| [07:24:00] | Ediehow: | err |
| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, he's running FC4 |
| [07:24:00] | Ediehow: | i've been using myth for quite some time |
| [07:24:00] | Ediehow: | i just never used it w/xvmc |
| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | indeed, and in the quite some time using myth, you experenced multitasking issues |
| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | and with XVMC you are getitng core dumps |
| [07:24:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: i told you why that was |
| [07:25:00] | Ediehow: | and i was told repeatedly in this channel that was the reason why |
| [07:25:00] | Ediehow: | because the ati driver did not have hardware decoding in linux |
| [07:25:00] | kormoc: | uh huh |
| [07:25:00] | Ediehow: | uh huh what? |
| [07:25:00] | kormoc: | and for some reason, your distro has something foobared to prevent nvidia's XMVC working |
| [07:25:00] | Ediehow: | where is this "and?" coming from? |
| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | Ediehow: what nvidia card do you have/ |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, 6200 |
| [07:26:00] | Ediehow: | is fedora the reason ati does not have hardware decoding in linux? |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | no |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | ATI has no hardware decoding under any distro |
| [07:26:00] | Ediehow: | because that apparently was my problem before, from what everyone said |
| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | Ediehow: are you using binary nvidia drivers? |
| [07:26:00] | Ediehow: | yes |
| [07:26:00] | Ediehow: | 7676 |
| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | try a different version |
| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | newer or older |
| [07:26:00] | Ediehow: | the latest do not work with xvmc |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, yes, and I made him drop to 7676 after the 8xxx ones caused issues |
| [07:27:00] | Ediehow: | apparently |
| [07:27:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, you can try with the 8176 ones |
| [07:27:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, they work, as long as you disable opengl vsync |
| [07:27:00] | Ediehow: | ok |
| [07:27:00] | Ediehow: | 78 introduced xvmc problems? |
| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | yeah, some people have reported so, aye |
| [07:28:00] | Ediehow: | k |
| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | 76 introduced XV vsync issues, which XVMC is a part of XV, so that's why 7676 is recommended |
| [07:29:00] | Ediehow: | isn't there some way to get more information as to why it's segfaulting? |
| [07:29:00] | kormoc: | gdb |
| [07:29:00] | Ediehow: | hmm, that's weird |
| [07:30:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 01:29:40.838 Trying XvMC port 270 |
| [07:30:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 01:29:40.838 Found a suitable XvMC surface 0 |
| [07:30:00] | Ediehow: | XvMC found and using IDCT surface |
| [07:30:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 01:29:40.838 Using XV port 270 |
| [07:30:00] | Ediehow: | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| [07:30:00] | Ediehow: | so it tries, and it finds that it's suitable |
| [07:30:00] | Ediehow: | then it uses and boom |
| [07:31:00] | kormoc: | it would seem to indicate something on your box is screwed up |
| [07:32:00] | Ediehow: | well, i had the 74 drivers installed |
| [07:32:00] | Ediehow: | then upgraded to 78 |
| [07:32:00] | Ediehow: | then down to 76 |
| [07:32:00] | Ediehow: | is there something else i can test xvmc with? |
| [07:32:00] | Ediehow: | totem? mplayer? |
| [07:33:00] | kormoc: | mplayer with a mpeg-2 file will |
| [07:33:00] | Ediehow: | ok, totem says it supports the xvmc driver |
| [07:33:00] | kormoc: | if you set it's output to xvmc |
| [07:33:00] | Ediehow: | ok |
| [07:33:00] | kormoc: | xvmc only works with mpeg-2, if you try to use a different filetype, it falls back to xv |
| [07:33:00] | Ediehow: | k |
| [07:34:00] | Ediehow: | -vo xvmc? |
| [07:34:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | mplayer -vo xvmc CodeBreakers.mpg |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | Starting playback... |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | VDec: vo config request – 720 x 480 (preferred csp: Planar YV12) |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | Could not find matching colorspace – retrying with -vf scale... |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | Opening video filter: [scale] |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. |
| [07:35:00] | kormoc: | is it a mpeg2 video? |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | i made it dvd whatever through nuvexport |
| [07:35:00] | Ediehow: | so i assume it is |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | seems like something is wrong with your xv libs |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | it seems i cannot play any of the .nuv's from myth either |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | Starting playback... |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | VDec: vo config request – 720 x 480 (preferred csp: Planar YV12) |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | Could not find matching colorspace – retrying with -vf scale... |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | Opening video filter: [scale] |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | maybe a ati one sitting somewhere where it shouldn't |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | how can i check? |
| [07:36:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | locate libxv |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | /usr/lib/libxvidcore.so.4 |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | /usr/lib/libxvidcore.so.4.0 |
| [07:36:00] | Ediehow: | those? |
| [07:37:00] | Ediehow: | no, that's xvidcore |
| [07:38:00] | Ediehow: | maybe mplayer is fubared? |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | sure |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | could be |
| [07:39:00] | Ediehow: | it says totem can use xvmc driver |
| [07:39:00] | Ediehow: | i wonder how i say to use that |
| [07:39:00] | Ediehow: | not in prefs, i see |
| [07:41:00] | Ediehow: | this really SUCKS |
| [07:41:00] | Ediehow: | i am playing a dvd |
| [07:41:00] | Ediehow: | and multitasking does the same STUPID thing |
| [07:41:00] | Ediehow: | chops and stops |
| [07:41:00] | kormoc: | so it would point to a software issue |
| [07:41:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: i don't know that it's using xvmc |
| [07:41:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, check the cpu usage |
| [07:42:00] | kormoc: | if it's not maxed out, then it's not cause it's not using xvmc |
| [07:42:00] | Ediehow: | well, under ati, mythtv was using 20% |
| [07:42:00] | Ediehow: | i have a 2ghz athlon |
| [07:42:00] | Ediehow: | 512mbddr |
| [07:43:00] | thechris: | i need to set up wifi and such |
| [07:43:00] | thechris: | or get a video card |
| [07:43:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, so is cpu usage high right now? |
| [07:43:00] | Ediehow: | with totem? |
| [07:43:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [07:44:00] | Ediehow: | 8% |
| [07:44:00] | Ediehow: | 6% |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | so it's not cpu related |
| [07:44:00] | Ediehow: | 20% |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | what WM are you using? |
| [07:44:00] | Ediehow: | metacity |
| [07:44:00] | stevenm (n=stevenm@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) Quit ("Connection reset by beer") | |
| [07:44:00] | Ediehow: | i just don't get it |
| [07:45:00] | Ediehow: | i don't understand what i am doing wrong |
| [07:45:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, at this point, there is a software package somewhere on your box that's just foobared |
| [07:45:00] | Ediehow: | let me try default X session |
| [07:45:00] | Ediehow: | without a WM |
| [07:45:00] | Ediehow: | just an xterm |
| [07:45:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [07:48:00] | Eszenia (n=Eszenia@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:48:00] | Eszenia: | ok i am CONFUSED |
| [07:48:00] | Eszenia: | help me k |
| [07:48:00] | Eszenia: | i did failsafe x session |
| [07:48:00] | Eszenia: | started totem, then metacity |
| [07:49:00] | Eszenia: | and i don't seem to have the problem |
| [07:50:00] | Eszenia: | let's try KDE |
| [07:52:00] | Eszenia: | kde does it too |
| [07:52:00] | Eszenia: | at least while firefox is running |
| [07:53:00] | kormoc: | so maybe it's firefox? |
| [07:53:00] | kormoc: | if it only happens when firefox is running it would point to it being the issue |
| [07:53:00] | Eszenia: | no wait |
| [07:54:00] | Eszenia: | i am using firefox during failsafe and metacity and totem |
| [07:54:00] | Eszenia: | and no problems |
| [07:54:00] | Eszenia: | so in kde and gnome, i have the problems:O |
| [07:54:00] | kormoc: | so then there's an issues somewhere software related |
| [07:55:00] | Eszenia: | apparently so |
| [07:55:00] | Eszenia: | i just feel stupid buying the nvidia card |
| [07:55:00] | Eszenia: | hopefully it's better than the radeon 9600se all around |
| [07:55:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [07:55:00] | Eszenia: | so i don't get it |
| [07:56:00] | Eszenia: | failsafe with metacity no problem |
| [07:56:00] | Eszenia: | but gnome and kde |
| [07:56:00] | Eszenia: | does gnome-session have kde? |
| [07:56:00] | Eszenia: | some kind of kde libs are loaded or something? |
| [07:56:00] | kormoc: | doubt it |
| [07:56:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [07:56:00] | kormoc: | given you can run gnome with nothing kde installed at all |
| [07:57:00] | Eszenia: | wow |
| [07:57:00] | Eszenia: | mythtv works fine, without xvmc, in same setting |
| [07:57:00] | Eszenia: | i'm such a doofahz |
| [07:58:00] | Eszenia: | well, i get to sell the radeon for $35 |
| [07:58:00] | Eszenia: | so i guess i eat $30 |
| [07:58:00] | Eszenia: | do u think the nvidia 6200 is better than radeon 9600se |
| [07:58:00] | Eszenia: | ? |
| [07:58:00] | kormoc: | I do |
| [07:59:00] | thechris: | i like nvidia over ati |
| [07:59:00] | Eszenia: | ok, so i guess i will keep it |
| [07:59:00] | Eszenia: | hmm |
| [07:59:00] | Eszenia: | i just don |
| [07:59:00] | Eszenia: | 't know what the problem is. i start failsafe x and metacity and no problems |
| [07:59:00] | Eszenia: | but why diff w/gnome session? |
| [08:00:00] | kormoc: | maybe it's a gnome lib issue? |
| [08:00:00] | Eszenia: | well, then why w/kde session? |
| [08:02:00] | Eszenia: | let me se |
| [08:02:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [08:02:00] | thechris: | oh, i remember i used to have this issue. forget what it was. i think it was either flash or firefox |
| [08:02:00] | thechris: | this was a while back though |
| [08:02:00] | xris (n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) Quit ("l8r") | |
| [08:02:00] | Eszenia: | thechris, no, i just had firefox working fine when i was in failsafe xterm, mythtv, and metacity |
| [08:03:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, in any case, it all points to an issue with your software somewhere |
| [08:03:00] | kormoc: | Eszenia, and the easiest way to fix it would be to reinstall from scratch |
| [08:04:00] | Eszenia: | that's kind of out of the question;) |
| [08:04:00] | Eszenia: | but let me see what happens after failsafe has everything working, then i start gnome-session |
| [08:04:00] | kormoc: | so something that gnome-session starts up |
| [08:05:00] | thechris: | just a shot in the dark, does mythtv have any "record to VCR" features |
| [08:05:00] | kormoc: | thechris, no |
| [08:05:00] | thechris: | i guessed as much |
| [08:06:00] | so_: | thechris, it has create dvd type functionality |
| [08:06:00] | so_: | and you can create a playlist and run it off to VCR manually if you like |
| [08:07:00] | Eszenia: | yeah, i started gnome-session, and it went poo |
| [08:08:00] | Eszenia: | WHATTTTTTTTT? |
| [08:08:00] | Eszenia: | it's nautilus! |
| [08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc: you still around? |
| [08:08:00] | so_: | yesh Nautilus is Gnome's default desktop/file manager |
| [08:08:00] | Eszenia: | why would nautilus do that? |
| [08:09:00] | so_: | try running nautlius in failsafe see what happens/error messages |
| [08:09:00] | so_: | maybe even try strace |
| [08:09:00] | thechris: | so_: i was thinking of this. my parents/older relatives all have VHS. |
| [08:11:00] | poop: | What would a record to VCR feature do? |
| [08:11:00] | so_: | I dunno send some IR to the VCR to get it to start recording maybe |
| [08:11:00] | thechris: | i guess make a playlist, then play it on a seperate ouptut and some IR magic |
| [08:12:00] | poop: | ah, sounds unrealiable though |
| [08:12:00] | thechris: | its pretty much what my parents want |
| [08:12:00] | thechris: | well, my dad |
| [08:12:00] | poop: | Maybe you can talk sense to him. |
| [08:12:00] | so_: | with enough CPU, I'd just be burning DVD+-RWs, dvd players are like $20+ |
| [08:13:00] | poop: | I wonder if my VCR still works. |
| [08:13:00] | Eszenia: | - were u following the convo? |
| [08:13:00] | Eszenia: | so |
| [08:13:00] | Eszenia: | it seems nautilus causes poor performance for multitasking while playing mpeg2s/dvds etc |
| [08:13:00] | so_: | I dunno, I'm using fluxbox in knoppmyth :) |
| [08:14:00] | so_: | I can see that, but so would Konqueror I'm thinking |
| [08:15:00] | Eszenia: | it does |
| [08:15:00] | Eszenia: | both do, it seems |
| [08:15:00] | Eszenia: | but why? |
| [08:15:00] | so_: | when you open a directory with them they go and render thumbnails etc, and they also have the habit of watching directories with things like HAL |
| [08:16:00] | Eszenia: | or it may be gnome-vfs-daemon |
| [08:16:00] | so_: | basically the same thing as HAL if I remember correctly |
| [08:17:00] | Eszenia: | how do u mean? |
| [08:17:00] | Eszenia: | i thought i remembered something about hal being problematic and not necessary |
| [08:18:00] | Eszenia: | the problem occurs in kde even without konq running |
| [08:18:00] | so_: | shrug |
| [08:19:00] | so_: | gnome-vfs-daemon interfaces with HAL from what I'm reading here |
| [08:19:00] | Eszenia: | ok, so i stopped hal |
| [08:19:00] | Eszenia: | let's se |
| [08:19:00] | so_: | probably just generates too much I/O traffic to the disks |
| [08:19:00] | Eszenia: | that's not it |
| [08:20:00] | Eszenia: | problem still occurring in kde |
| [08:21:00] | Eszenia: | hmm, i spoke too soon |
| [08:21:00] | Eszenia: | i did totem |
| [08:21:00] | Eszenia: | err |
| [08:22:00] | Eszenia: | failsafe, metacity, totem, and was playing it, then did firefox, and started scrolling up and down a page |
| [08:22:00] | Eszenia: | and it started jolting |
| [08:22:00] | Eszenia: | oh wait, that's only if i do it really quickly, not if i do it normally |
| [08:23:00] | so_: | sure that isn't a video card problem or an interrupt IRQ problem? |
| [08:27:00] | chickeneater (n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:28:00] | Eszenia: | i just replaced the video card, the ati radeon 9600se, with an nvidia 6200 |
| [08:28:00] | Eszenia: | and it seems to be exclusive to linux |
| [08:28:00] | Eszenia (n=Eszenia@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit ("Larving") | |
| [08:37:00] | mirak (n=mirak@ip-71.net-81-220-111.rev.numericable.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:47:00] | kormoc (n=kormoc@67.183.242.70) Quit ("http://www.openbash.org") | |
| [08:50:00] | dopester (n=dopester@adsl-146-162-173.clt.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:58:00] | _BleedAway (i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:02:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:02:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc left? |
| [09:06:00] | Juski: | . |
| [09:06:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [09:06:00] | Juski: | mornin' |
| [09:10:00] | BleedAway (i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [09:10:00] | _BleedAway is now known as BleedAway | |
| [09:11:00] | SqWaw (n=Garfster@ool-4575b70f.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:12:00] | Moodles: | anyone understand tzap's output: signal, snr, ber and unc? |
| [09:15:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [09:16:00] | lotia (n=lotia@pcp0011502605pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [09:17:00] | Juski: | Moodles: signal indicates the strength of the signal. Snr is the 'signal to noise ratio', ber is the 'basic error rate' (iirc) and unc is the amount of uncorrectable errors |
| [09:20:00] | Moodles: | I get, Signal "4d00", snr "4d00" (usualy its the same as signal), ber "bfb6cb88", unc "bfb6cc24" |
| [09:20:00] | Moodles: | I assume this is ultra bad |
| [09:20:00] | Juski: | Moodles: but be aware some DVB drivers report things like the signal strength in different ways to others – mine, for example has 0000 as the strongest signal. What you need to look for is high SNR, low BER and preferably zero UNC |
| [09:20:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:21:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [09:21:00] | Ediehow: | anyone using xvmc? |
| [09:21:00] | Juski: | Moodles: if you manage to get a lock with tzap, and you can play a captured mpeg file from the dvb device – then maybe the driver is reporting rubbish |
| [09:21:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: yep |
| [09:21:00] | Ediehow: | Juski: please help:( |
| [09:21:00] | Ediehow: | what version of driver are you using? |
| [09:22:00] | Juski: | er... 7667 I think |
| [09:22:00] | Ediehow: | do you have any xvmc specific options in xorg.conf? |
| [09:22:00] | Juski: | no |
| [09:22:00] | Moodles: | Juski: yeah I run the dvbstream blah blah | mplayer -, I get a different crash message everytime, I assume my indoor antennae just sucks, or there's too much noise (considering there is 2 computers next to it) |
| [09:23:00] | Juski: | Moodles: unless you live somewhere where you can see the mast from your house, I wouldn't recommend using an indoor aerial |
| [09:23:00] | Ediehow: | i don't understand what i am doing wrong! |
| [09:23:00] | Ediehow: | why am i having so much problems with xvmc? |
| [09:23:00] | Ediehow: | i wish i could determine for sure if it works with totem |
| [09:24:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: the worst thing you could be doing wrong is trying to use xvmc with an ATI card ;) |
| [09:24:00] | Ediehow: | i got an nvidia card now:( |
| [09:24:00] | beavis (n=beavis@p54A7A7BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:24:00] | Ediehow: | 6200 |
| [09:24:00] | croppa (i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:24:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: you still trying to do that 'dual desktop' trick? |
| [09:24:00] | Ediehow: | how do you mena? |
| [09:24:00] | Ediehow: | mean? |
| [09:24:00] | Ediehow: | i am using two monitors |
| [09:25:00] | Juski: | that's what I meant |
| [09:25:00] | Ediehow: | i'm using twinview, that's working fine |
| [09:25:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003 . . . /021859.html |
| [09:26:00] | Juski: | if using twinview, xvmc will only work for one screen |
| [09:26:00] | Ediehow: | what do u mean? |
| [09:26:00] | Ediehow: | how do you determine which screen it is being used on? |
| [09:26:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: like only the first monitor output will be able to use xvmc |
| [09:27:00] | Juski: | not _both_ |
| [09:27:00] | Ediehow: | how do i tell it to use it on the second one? |
| [09:27:00] | Juski: | and you don't – it only works on the 1st |
| [09:27:00] | Juski: | i.e. the 'primary' display |
| [09:27:00] | Ediehow: | really? |
| [09:27:00] | Ediehow: | that hasn't been fixed since 2003? |
| [09:27:00] | Juski: | I doubt it |
| [09:28:00] | Ediehow: | hmm |
| [09:28:00] | _BleedAway (i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:29:00] | Ediehow: | Juski: why are you not using the 8x series drivers? |
| [09:30:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:30:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: because the driver I've got works just fine |
| [09:30:00] | Ediehow: | can you tell me for sure which one you use? |
| [09:30:00] | Juski: | I don't usually upgrade stuff for the sake of it |
| [09:31:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: no I can't tell you which one I use – it's on my other box that doesn't have a PSU right now |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.divms.uiowa.edu/~jjurich/changelog.txt |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | Added a new Xv adaptor on GeForce4 and GeForceFX which uses the |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | 3D engine to do Xv PutImage requests. This allows XvMC to operate |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | when the video overlay is not available (such as in TwinView). |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | XvMC still uses the overlay by default, when available. A new |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | XF86Config option "XvmcUsesTextures" has been added to force |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | usage of the 3D engine for XvMCPutSurface even when overlays are |
| [09:32:00] | Ediehow: | available. |
| [09:33:00] | Juski: | yeah yeah |
| [09:34:00] | Ediehow: | well what about that? |
| [09:34:00] | Juski: | so put "XcMCPutSurface" "1" in your xorg.conf I guess |
| [09:34:00] | Juski: | *XvMCPutSurface I mean |
| [09:35:00] | Ediehow: | i think i just wasted $65 |
| [09:35:00] | Ediehow: | http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/history/topic/438201-1.html |
| [09:36:00] | mirak (n=mirak@ip-71.net-81-220-111.rev.numericable.fr) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [09:36:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [09:37:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: just use 2 cards then, and chill out a bit |
| [09:37:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:37:00] | Ediehow: | Juski: what does that post mean? |
| [09:38:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [09:39:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: that means _chill out a big_. Stop being so uptight about it ;) |
| [09:39:00] | BleedAway (i=whocares@saus04.usc.es) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [09:39:00] | _BleedAway is now known as BleedAway | |
| [09:39:00] | laga: | morning Juski |
| [09:40:00] | thechris (n=chatzill@24.216.178.42) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") | |
| [09:40:00] | Juski: | morning laga |
| [09:42:00] | Juski: | we have a dusting of snow here this morning. news reports the 'east' of the UK had one, so I'm wondering where they're calling 'east' now (they always seem to think Manchester is in the 'north' when there's blatantly like 400 miles further up) ;) |
| [09:44:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:44:00] | Ediehow: | hi Juski |
| [09:44:00] | laga: | we have some snow here as well which sucks because i've got to help my sister moving. |
| [09:45:00] | Ediehow: | MAN! |
| [09:45:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 03:44:58.032 Trying XvMC port 270 |
| [09:45:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 03:44:58.032 Found a suitable XvMC surface 0 |
| [09:45:00] | Ediehow: | XvMC found and using IDCT surface |
| [09:45:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 03:44:58.033 Using XV port 270 |
| [09:45:00] | Ediehow: | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| [09:45:00] | maniacxs (n=maniacxs@p54AB4398.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [09:45:00] | Juski: | laga: moving at _this_ time of year? sheesh |
| [09:46:00] | laga: | Juski: well, she wanted to get it done before christmas :) |
| [09:46:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: you really ain't having much luck with that are you? in cases like this, where mine 'just works' I'm afraid I'm not much use |
| [09:47:00] | Ediehow: | Juski: well, i installed nvidia card today |
| [09:47:00] | Ediehow: | and i cannot get xvmc |
| [09:47:00] | Ediehow: | i downgraded to 7676 |
| [09:48:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: you 64 or 32-bit? |
| [09:48:00] | Ediehow: | 32 |
| [09:48:00] | Ediehow: | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.ph . . . o=nextoldest |
| [09:48:00] | Ediehow: | i was readi1ng that too |
| [09:49:00] | Juski: | well laga, maybe it'll all be done in time for new years eve ;) |
| [09:49:00] | Ediehow: | hey Juski |
| [09:49:00] | laga: | Juski: i hope so, my back is still killing me ;) |
| [09:49:00] | Ediehow: | when you do xdpyinfo |
| [09:49:00] | Ediehow: | do you see motioncompensation? |
| [09:50:00] | Ediehow: | or anything like that |
| [09:50:00] | Ediehow: | oh wait, i see it on mine |
| [09:50:00] | _willcooke_ (n=will@88-109-63-215.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [09:51:00] | Juski: | Ediehow I already told you I can't turn the box on – it has no PSU right now |
| [09:52:00] | Ediehow: | oh right |
| [09:52:00] | Ediehow: | nevermind, i have that hsowig |
| [09:52:00] | Ediehow: | The administrator has banned your email address. To contact the administrator click here |
| [09:52:00] | Ediehow: | oh that's REAL good |
| [09:53:00] | Ediehow: | nvnews.net bans gmail addresses |
| [09:53:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [09:56:00] | _willcooke_: | Mornin'. |
| [09:56:00] | _willcooke_: | Merry xmas etc! |
| [09:56:00] | Juski: | hi _willcooke_.. the 'etc' was very good ;) |
| [09:56:00] | ** _willcooke_ gut's hurt ** | |
| [09:57:00] | _willcooke_: | Big day today... The Myth box moves from under this desk to under the telly! |
| [09:57:00] | ** Juski was a good boy.. didn't eat or drink too much at all ** | |
| [09:58:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [09:58:00] | laga: | Juski: sounds boring. ;) |
| [09:58:00] | Juski: | laga: far from it |
| [09:58:00] | DonLKSAB (n=don@h57n2fls31o998.telia.com) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [09:58:00] | Juski: | meant I only had to scoff 2 indigestion tablets this year |
| [09:58:00] | _willcooke_: | :D |
| [09:58:00] | laga: | oh, ok ;) |
| [09:59:00] | Juski: | but sunday night in the pub was a bit like the campfire scene out of 'blazing saddles' |
| [09:59:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [10:00:00] | _willcooke_: | I hear that! The mrs kicked me out of the bedroom this morning for the very same reason. However, I note the dog is still in there, and it stinks more than me. :( |
| [10:01:00] | Juski: | I was told a classic joke too, but I doubt I can repeat it here unless there are no politically correct types in the house |
| [10:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Beware the logs! |
| [10:02:00] | Ediehow: | this guy is an idiot! |
| [10:02:00] | Ediehow: | he banned gmail and yahoo email addresses |
| [10:02:00] | viv`d (n=ViViD@c-67-160-125-239.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:02:00] | Juski: | the one about Ikea deciding to bring out beds for ladies who love ladies.... there's no screwing involved – it's all tongue & groove! |
| [10:02:00] | _willcooke_: | 'arf! |
| [10:03:00] | ** laga coughs ** | |
| [10:04:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, You're running TV out to a 16:9 telly right? Do you have a "DisplaySize" entry in your x conf? |
| [10:05:00] | Juski: | I do indeed |
| [10:05:00] | _willcooke_: | Is it 400 225 ? |
| [10:05:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [10:06:00] | _willcooke_: | :) Good! |
| [10:06:00] | Juski: | still doesn't look quite right with a 4:3 theme though |
| [10:06:00] | _willcooke_: | Are you also running at a resolution of 720 x 576 |
| [10:06:00] | Juski: | aha |
| [10:06:00] | Ediehow: | this guy banned yahoo and gmail |
| [10:06:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: maybe they got too much spam |
| [10:07:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, what's the HorizSync range you have set? |
| [10:07:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: no idea |
| [10:07:00] | Juski: | but @ 720x576 it'll be in the 15.625khz region I expect |
| [10:08:00] | _willcooke_: | Ok, that's cool. |
| [10:09:00] | Moodles: | believe it or not, I've just managed to get perfect digital reception on channel 9 (aussie tv station) with a pair of bunny-ears packing taped to the wall |
| [10:10:00] | ** Juski watched the xmas 'Dr. Who' last night and was quite impressed ** | |
| [10:11:00] | Juski: | Moodles: that's erm.. good news :) |
| [10:13:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit ("Sho Ryu Ken") | |
| [10:15:00] | Moodles: | haven't tried any other channels though |
| [10:15:00] | Juski: | Moodles: if you can get one channel, then other stations on that mux should at least be good |
| [10:15:00] | Moodles: | signal 5000, snr 6200, ber bfae05e8, unc bfae0684 (obviously ber and unc are lying) |
| [10:18:00] | Juski: | right I'm gonna grab some breakfast. |
| [10:19:00] | DonLKSAB (n=don@h57n2fls31o998.telia.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:21:00] | berbs (n=berbs@c-24-6-241-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [10:28:00] | eiggirC: | just got transcoding working.... YAY |
| [10:39:00] | Shadow_pillar (n=Shadow@global-66-81-254-77.dialup.o1.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:39:00] | Shadow_pillar: | when I run the frontend, I just sit there with the mythtv bg |
| [10:44:00] | Shadow_pillar: | okay, nm, got it working, however, when I go to watch tv |
| [10:44:00] | Shadow_pillar: | I get a blank screen |
| [10:44:00] | Moodles` (i=Tallarin@203-173-32-5.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:45:00] | Shadow_pillar: | okay, the issue seems to be this |
| [10:45:00] | Shadow_pillar: | 2005-12–27 02:44:32.816 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [10:45:00] | Shadow_pillar: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/var/cache/mythtv//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [10:45:00] | Shadow_pillar: | 2005-12–27 02:44:32.878 LiveTV not successfully started |
| [10:45:00] | KaZeR (n=kazer@81.80.32.245) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [10:46:00] | Shadow_pillar: | well this is just perfect |
| [10:49:00] | Juski: | Shadow_pillar: looks like a pretty common problem to me. a tiny little bit of searching should get a fix for you. |
| [10:49:00] | Shadow_pillar: | I have been doing a tinny little bit of searching for the past 48 hours |
| [10:49:00] | Shadow_pillar: | tiny* |
| [10:50:00] | Shadow_pillar: | on this god damned card, and on mythtv |
| [10:50:00] | Shadow_pillar: | I'm about fed up |
| [10:50:00] | Juski: | what card? |
| [10:50:00] | Shadow_pillar: | hauppage wintv pvr-150 MCE |
| [10:50:00] | Juski: | and did you establish the card works before trying it with mythtv? |
| [10:51:00] | ** Juski wishes they'd rename that card to _not have_ the 'wintv' bit. always gets my hackles up seeing that ;) ** | |
| [10:51:00] | KaZeR (n=kazer@81.80.35.247) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:51:00] | _willcooke_: | it's snowing! yay! |
| [10:52:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: so are you happy enough with mythtv now? |
| [10:52:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh yes! |
| [10:52:00] | _willcooke_: | Now SVN is happier, and there is a search in myth music |
| [10:53:00] | Moodles- (i=Tallarin@203-173-32-5.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:53:00] | Juski: | yeah I saw the search thing. though I doubt I'll upgrade to 0.19 when it's released |
| [10:54:00] | _willcooke_: | I think the box is ready for "Wife Testing" now. I still need to sort out the remote control, and I've built one of those RGB to SCART cables, so I need to get X modelines working (I'll go Svideo for now). |
| [10:55:00] | laga: | Juski: huh? why not? ;) |
| [10:55:00] | Juski: | er... cos um 0.18 works well enough for me |
| [10:55:00] | _willcooke_: | 0.19 has some nice dvb extras |
| [10:55:00] | laga: | Juski: and lossless mpeg2 cutting doesn't make you drool? |
| [10:56:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [10:56:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [10:56:00] | Juski: | I can't be bothered to edit recordings – I mean I tend not to keep anything |
| [10:56:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [10:56:00] | Shadow_pillar: | Juski: I know all about the ivtv thing, the card *SEEMS* to work |
| [10:56:00] | Ediehow: | i just don't get it |
| [10:56:00] | Shadow_pillar: | Juski: mpeg II decoder thing and all |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | i don't get why, even after getting a new video card, i still have problems with video performance when i do other things |
| [10:57:00] | Juski: | Shadow_pillar: it's an _en_ coder |
| [10:57:00] | Ediehow: | for instance, playing a dvd in one monitor while scrolling w/firefox in another |
| [10:57:00] | Shadow_pillar: | Juski: anyway, under mythtv I just get a big black screen when I go to watch tv and I have to manually kill mythtv |
| [10:57:00] | Shadow_pillar: | encoder, whatever |
| [10:57:00] | Juski: | Shadow_pillar: run mythbackend in a terminal session – that should give you a clue as to why livetv isn't working |
| [10:58:00] | Juski: | it might just be that the user you're running mythfrontend as doesn't have permission to use the ringbuffer directory |
| [10:58:00] | Juski: | and to establish whether or not it's a driver issue, schedule a recording & see if that works |
| [10:59:00] | Moodles (i=Tallarin@203-173-32-5.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [10:59:00] | Shadow_pillar: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [11:00:00] | Juski: | Shadow_pillar: stop mythbackend first.. the daemon is probably still running |
| [11:00:00] | Shadow_pillar: | I did |
| [11:00:00] | Shadow_pillar: | and if it was running it would complain about not binding to port |
| [11:00:00] | Shadow_pillar: | :P |
| [11:01:00] | Juski: | ah, so then you need a mysql.txt for the user you're trying to run mythbackend under I think |
| [11:01:00] | Shadow_pillar: | how do I do this? |
| [11:01:00] | Shadow_pillar is now known as Shadowpillar | |
| [11:01:00] | Moodles- (i=Tallarin@203-173-32-5.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [11:01:00] | Juski: | you should already have a text file – probably stored in /root/.mythtv |
| [11:02:00] | Moodles` (i=Tallarin@203-173-32-5.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [11:03:00] | Shadowpillar: | 2005-12–27 03:00:17.097 Unknown video codec |
| [11:04:00] | Juski: | erm.. check your recording profiles to make sure that you're using mpeg2 |
| [11:04:00] | Ediehow: | Shadowpillar: you get that on trying to do xvmc? |
| [11:05:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: okay |
| [11:05:00] | ** Shadowpillar would rather it not record ** | |
| [11:05:00] | Shadowpillar: | I just simply want to watch tv and use the card to play my gamecube through |
| [11:05:00] | Juski: | Shadowpillar: you have no choice.. livetv IS recording |
| [11:05:00] | Shadowpillar: | well isnt that lovely? |
| [11:06:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: know of any apps that dont require sacrificing some animal to work? |
| [11:06:00] | Juski: | in that case, you have the wrong idea on 2 counts: 1. it'll always have lag because it has an mpeg encoder on it. 2. mythtv is _so_ much more than console viewing ;) |
| [11:06:00] | Shadowpillar: | and tvtime doesn't play nice with mpeg 2 based cards |
| [11:07:00] | Shadowpillar: | great so the card is useless |
| [11:07:00] | Juski: | iirc, you _can_ get the PVR150 card to work in 'frame grabber' mode |
| [11:07:00] | Shadowpillar: | perfect |
| [11:07:00] | Shadowpillar: | how? |
| [11:07:00] | Juski: | Shadowpillar: the price of not doing any research. cool eh |
| [11:07:00] | Shadowpillar: | I did |
| [11:07:00] | Shadowpillar: | just didnt realise that it meant all this |
| [11:08:00] | Juski: | afaik the 150 card have a /dev/video32 that the ivtv driver gives you which _might_ just work |
| [11:08:00] | Shadowpillar: | nope |
| [11:10:00] | Juski: | that must just work for 250 & 350 cards then |
| [11:10:00] | Juski: | que sera |
| [11:12:00] | Shadowpillar: | well this is great |
| [11:13:00] | Juski: | Shadowpillar: a $10 tuner card will do the console viewing on your PC job |
| [11:13:00] | Shadowpillar: | I can prolly sell this thing |
| [11:14:00] | GiantPickle (n=GiantPic@S0106006008bd147d.gv.shawcable.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [11:14:00] | Shadowpillar: | as I got it from newegg and I doubt they do returns |
| [11:15:00] | Shadowpillar: | after doing all that, I'm going to hunt down the bastards who said "ZOMG GO WITH HAUPPAUGE BECAUSE THEY'RE AWESOME AND WORK PERFECTLY UNDER LINUX!" |
| [11:15:00] | GiantPickle_ (n=GiantPic@S0106006008bd147d.gv.shawcable.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [11:15:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: and I can watch tv from it? |
| [11:15:00] | Juski: | Shadowpillar: that's just plain old sour grapes :P |
| [11:15:00] | Shadowpillar: | this card has done anything but work perfectly |
| [11:15:00] | Shadowpillar: | spent over a day and a half getting it to play nice |
| [11:16:00] | Juski: | Shadowpillar: of course you can watch tv with a $10 tuner card, but don't expect to be able to record with it.. bttv cards a very sucky in my experience |
| [11:16:00] | Shadowpillar: | then took 6 hours to download all the stuff needed for mythtv and then setting it all up |
| [11:16:00] | Shadowpillar: | I wasnt planning to |
| [11:16:00] | Shadowpillar: | there's not much on tv worth recording |
| [11:16:00] | Shadowpillar: | :P |
| [11:17:00] | Shadowpillar: | could hold onto the card though... |
| [11:17:00] | Juski: | now that really _is_ a bad case of sour grapes |
| [11:17:00] | Shadowpillar: | because I do want to make a media center pc |
| [11:17:00] | Shadowpillar: | I have an old shuttle mobo with a 433 mhz cpu on it |
| [11:17:00] | Shadowpillar: | onboard video and sound work well |
| [11:18:00] | Juski: | riiiight. that'll work like really 'well'... and be very bad for playing back video |
| [11:18:00] | Shadowpillar: | install ubuntu with some basic apps and then mythtv |
| [11:18:00] | Shadowpillar: | Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-10–686 | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: Pentium II (Deschutes) @ 399 Mhz | Mem usage: 143.5/314.1 MB (46%) | Swap usage: 165.6/333.6 MB (50%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 2B020H1): 7.6/18.0 GB (42%) | Uptime: 5 hrs 58 mins 16 secs |
| [11:18:00] | Shadowpillar: | any questions? |
| [11:18:00] | Juski: | good luck! |
| [11:18:00] | Shadowpillar: | my video card makes playback smooth |
| [11:19:00] | Juski: | with a 433mhz CPU.. ahem |
| [11:19:00] | Shadowpillar: | in my case, 400 mhz for this comp :P |
| [11:20:00] | Juski: | even with xvmc that might be asking a bit much |
| [11:20:00] | Shadowpillar: | you'd be surprised what linux+old hardware can still do |
| [11:20:00] | Shadowpillar: | maybe not run superfast on a large resolution |
| [11:20:00] | Juski: | erm.. my 800mhz box had problems playing back mpeg2 at 720x576 without xvmc |
| [11:21:00] | Shadowpillar: | anyway |
| [11:21:00] | Shadowpillar: | know of any brooktree cards? |
| [11:21:00] | Juski: | Shadowpillar: the world is your (crappy) oyster for brooktree cards |
| [11:21:00] | Juski: | look in the <$25 bin |
| [11:21:00] | Goulkreek (n=Goulkree@ciscop02-gw.neotion.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:22:00] | Goulkreek: | Hello everybody |
| [11:22:00] | Goulkreek: | I try to use mythtv using a USB Wireless keyboard, but mythtv only accept the Escape key in navigation. Is there anyone who can help me ? |
| [11:22:00] | Goulkreek: | Note : My USB keyboard is working well in a XTerm (in FC4) |
| [11:22:00] | Goulkreek: | Thanks in advance ! |
| [11:24:00] | Juski: | Goulkreek: maybe it's a window focus issue, not keyboard |
| [11:25:00] | Goulkreek: | Ah. even if Escape or PageDOWN/UP keys are seen by mythtv ? |
| [11:25:00] | Juski: | possibly |
| [11:25:00] | Goulkreek: | I check it |
| [11:26:00] | Goulkreek: | thx |
| [11:26:00] | Juski: | the thing is, are the keyboard's arrow keys working in the xterm? |
| [11:26:00] | Goulkreek: | yes all is ok in an xterm |
| [11:26:00] | Juski: | it's probably still a keyboard config issue |
| [11:27:00] | Goulkreek: | yes i believe. How can I change this config ? |
| [11:27:00] | Goulkreek: | is it a mythtv config file ? |
| [11:27:00] | Juski: | probably an xorg.conf issue |
| [11:28:00] | Goulkreek: | hum, I have already checked it, and it seems ok for kb |
| [11:28:00] | Juski: | try some other apps that use cursor keys to be 100% sure they're working ok |
| [11:29:00] | Goulkreek: | yes good idea. I do it now |
| [11:29:00] | Goulkreek: | I have tried xchat... and it is ok |
| [11:30:00] | Juski: | weird |
| [11:30:00] | Juski: | mythtv should _not_ care about the keyboard – I mean if it works in other apps it should be ok |
| [11:31:00] | Goulkreek: | yes i think the same. |
| [11:32:00] | DonLKSAB: | Yo |
| [11:32:00] | DonLKSAB: | Hi all |
| [11:32:00] | DonLKSAB: | Everyone had a nice christmas? |
| [11:33:00] | Goulkreek: | Hi Don'... |
| [11:33:00] | Goulkreek: | yes nice christmas thx. |
| [11:33:00] | DonLKSAB: | cool |
| [11:33:00] | Goulkreek: | i hope U 2 |
| [11:33:00] | DonLKSAB: | Yes |
| [11:33:00] | DonLKSAB: | Exelent :-) |
| [11:34:00] | DonLKSAB: | Doing the last tweeks on my installation now :-) |
| [11:34:00] | DonLKSAB: | Not much things left to solve now |
| [11:35:00] | Goulkreek: | you're lucky. I have one left misunderstood problem on my platform with mythtv |
| [11:36:00] | Goulkreek: | no keyboard in mythtv while in any other app it is ok |
| [11:36:00] | DonLKSAB: | Odd |
| [11:36:00] | Goulkreek: | Juski : I have restarted mythbackend service and it is ok |
| [11:36:00] | Goulkreek: | Don' : My last problem is solved now |
| [11:37:00] | Goulkreek: | thx for your "aura" |
| [11:37:00] | DonLKSAB: | hehe |
| [11:37:00] | Goulkreek: | Thx Justi having taken care about me ;-) |
| [11:39:00] | Juski: | Goulkreek: thanks.. I still can't see why that would have helped – but maybe if you plugged the keyboard in after booting & running mythbackend... I just don't know |
| [11:39:00] | Goulkreek: | thx |
| [11:43:00] | t00m: | stupid firefox doesn't build with distcc either |
| [11:44:00] | Juski: | t00m: why not just use a binary? it's only a web browser |
| [11:44:00] | t00m: | yeah.. maybe you're right :) |
| [11:45:00] | t00m: | but i installed 3 deps already |
| [11:45:00] | Ediehow: | hey is there a reason not to use totem instead of mplayer? |
| [11:45:00] | Juski: | no idea |
| [11:45:00] | Juski: | I use xine all the time though |
| [11:45:00] | Ediehow: | i used to |
| [11:45:00] | Ediehow: | but then i switched to totem |
| [11:45:00] | Ediehow: | much better |
| [11:46:00] | Ediehow: | it uses xine-lib |
| [11:46:00] | uggboot (n=uggboot@c220-237-58-2.sunsh4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [11:46:00] | t00m: | hey Juski, any idea why mythtv would stop playback of a recording before the file ends? |
| [11:47:00] | t00m: | always at the same position |
| [11:47:00] | t00m: | even mencoder stops encoding there :/ |
| [11:47:00] | Juski: | t00m: maybe a squeak in the stream |
| [11:48:00] | t00m: | i mencoded the whole file once |
| [11:48:00] | t00m: | but fucked it up so i needed to encode it a secound time |
| [11:49:00] | Juski: | try projectX on it.. if that doesn't work not much will |
| [11:49:00] | t00m: | projectX.. sounds like another application with 10000000 of deps |
| [11:49:00] | Juski: | nah. it's java-based |
| [11:49:00] | t00m: | uargh |
| [11:50:00] | Juski: | don't let that put you off |
| [11:50:00] | t00m: | i'm not going to install java |
| [11:50:00] | Juski: | it's well written |
| [11:50:00] | KaZeR (n=kazer@81.80.35.247) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
| [11:50:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: I might be able to create my vcr pvr idea in the end |
| [11:50:00] | t00m: | Juski: doesn't have an ebuild |
| [11:50:00] | t00m: | (lucky me) |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | t00m: course it doesn't have an ebuild! |
| [11:51:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: an old gutted vcr with a micro/mini itx mobo, dvd drive, small micro-atx psu, and the card in there as well |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | just download the /jar & run it |
| [11:51:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: just for irony's sake |
| [11:51:00] | t00m: | should work on windows though |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | Shadowpillar: I hope it works out for you |
| [11:51:00] | Juski: | t00m: if you have a windows box, try PVAStrumento |
| [11:52:00] | uggboot (n=uggboot@c220-237-58-2.sunsh4.vic.optusnet.com.au) Quit () | |
| [11:52:00] | Juski: | I find that to be very good aswell – managed to fix some files that wouldn't transcode in mythtv with that |
| [11:52:00] | Juski: | and now I need to rebootski – just noticed my DVDrom drive doesn't have the power connector in |
| [11:52:00] | Juski (n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust8.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) Quit ("The icecaps are not melting. The water is being liberated") | |
| [11:57:00] | Shadowpillar (n=Shadow@global-66-81-254-77.dialup.o1.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [11:58:00] | t00m: | who needs power.. |
| [12:03:00] | Shadowpillar (n=Shadow@global-66-81-254-77.dialup.o1.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:04:00] | Shadowpillar: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815123001 would this be a bttv card? |
| [12:11:00] | _willcooke_: | PVAStrumento runs under wine if you dont have a windows box! |
| [12:13:00] | PIXy (n=piccolo@host-84-9-44-128.bulldogdsl.com) Quit ("sex soldier 69 reporting victory, over.") | |
| [12:14:00] | t00m: | interesting |
| [12:21:00] | kSh__ (n=crash-x@0x41414141.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [12:21:00] | kSh (n=crash-x@0x41414141.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:24:00] | epoch (i=epoch@octane.breakbeats.org) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [12:25:00] | t00m: | _willcooke_: what do i do with that pvastrumento? |
| [12:25:00] | epoch (i=epoch@octane.breakbeats.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:25:00] | t00m: | it doesn't seem to write anything |
| [12:25:00] | t00m: | always complains and exits |
| [12:38:00] | Juski (n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust8.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:38:00] | squeegy (n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) Quit ("This computer has gone to sleep") | |
| [12:41:00] | Kelerion (n=Kelerion@host81-148-51-141.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [12:41:00] | Kelerion: | afternoon all |
| [12:45:00] | hunterotd (n=hunter@68-184-3-236.dhcp.mmll.ar.charter.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [12:48:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. you's about? |
| [12:48:00] | Juski: | sort of |
| [12:48:00] | Juski: | afternoon :) |
| [12:49:00] | Kelerion: | was just wondering if your widescreen version of your theme was available to download for testing yet? (just got my new tv and am dying to get it all working nicely) |
| [12:49:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: nope |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | doubt it will be til next year. |
| [12:50:00] | Kelerion: | am doing a complete flatten-reinstall of my box today – it's become unstable over the last couple of months and WAF is going downwards.. lol |
| [12:50:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. thanks anyways :) keep up the good work |
| [12:50:00] | Juski: | bah no the good work has stopped. it's soul-destroying work from now on |
| [12:51:00] | Kelerion: | anything I could help with? |
| [12:51:00] | Kelerion: | don't mind tedious work for a good cause.. lol |
| [12:53:00] | Juski: | ermm... I just realised that when I reinstalled the os I lost a lot |
| [12:53:00] | Kelerion: | oops |
| [12:53:00] | Juski: | I think it's all done apart from weather-ui |
| [12:53:00] | Kelerion: | does it need the svn version? |
| [12:54:00] | Juski: | nah the theme just ignores definitions that don't exist |
| [12:54:00] | Kelerion: | cool |
| [12:54:00] | Kelerion: | I can install release then – anything for stability at the moment.. lol |
| [12:54:00] | Juski: | but it doesn't work the other way, so if you use svn you need a theme with the new stuff in it |
| [12:55:00] | Kelerion: | I was dying to try the new stuff in svn a few weeks ago – so I installed it.. loved it.. but not *quite* stable enough.. so went backwards again.. but it wasn't the same |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | I find it hard to say this but there's nothing that attracts me to the SVN version |
| [12:57:00] | Juski: | can't see me upgrading til 0.20 brings the new UI stuff |
| [12:57:00] | Kelerion: | I loved the idea of the new livetv functionality.. but to be honest.. I don't watch that much livetv anymore |
| [12:57:00] | Ediehow: | livetv is new? |
| [12:58:00] | Ediehow: | oh ok |
| [12:58:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. rewritten |
| [12:58:00] | Ediehow: | nevermind |
| [12:58:00] | Ediehow: | i don |
| [12:58:00] | Ediehow: | 't get it though, doens't all of it just use mplayer? |
| [12:58:00] | Kelerion: | nope |
| [12:58:00] | Juski: | livetv is like _so_ 1950s anyway ;) |
| [12:58:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
| [13:00:00] | Kelerion: | my wife and I work all day – so myth records everything and we settle down around 8pm and start catching up.. if we don't have enough to watch I dig a DVD out we haven't watched for a while and remember to add more recordings for that day |
| [13:01:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815123001 this one look good? |
| [13:02:00] | Juski: | just fired up my testing box, so I'll be able to do some theme work once I've got mythtv going on it |
| [13:02:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: it's saa7134 based |
| [13:02:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: is that well supported under linux from your experience? |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | saa7134 is will supported from what I've heard |
| [13:03:00] | Shadowpillar: | good |
| [13:03:00] | Ediehow: | hooray! |
| [13:03:00] | Shadowpillar: | that card is actually cheaper than the bttv card I was looking at |
| [13:03:00] | stoffel (n=sfr@p50816398.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:03:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v stoffel | |
| [13:04:00] | Shadowpillar: | the other upside to having the hauppauge card, thanks to the analog hole bill and other racketeering bills being thrown at congress, such cards may be illegal to buy in the US soon |
| [13:04:00] | Shadowpillar: | so, hey, hot damn |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | I doubt it somehow |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | like I asked the other day, do you guys not have laws against such rampant profiteering? |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | the land of the free, MY ARSE |
| [13:05:00] | Shadowpillar: | because that doesn't put money in the pockets of congressmen |
| [13:05:00] | Shadowpillar: | more like land of mass illusion and delusion |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | but look on the bright side. you can own as many guns as you want :-/ |
| [13:05:00] | Shadowpillar: | they dare not touch that |
| [13:05:00] | KaZeR (n=kazer@81.80.35.247) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:06:00] | Shadowpillar: | too late to pull that |
| [13:06:00] | Shadowpillar: | only worked in australia because the population is smaller |
| [13:06:00] | Juski: | how fucked up is a place where you can't drink just anywhere, yet you can buy guns so readily? |
| [13:06:00] | Shadowpillar: | plus australia is an island |
| [13:06:00] | Shadowpillar: | a very large island |
| [13:07:00] | Shadowpillar: | so they can control what enters and leaves the country safely |
| [13:07:00] | Shadowpillar: | we have mexico |
| [13:07:00] | Juski: | I like the idea of Oz's immigration policy though... no job, no money, no entry unless you're _really_ in need |
| [13:08:00] | Shadowpillar: | Juski: pretty fucked up, but social violence is a method of oppressive as well |
| [13:08:00] | Shadowpillar: | police decide not to patrol an area, the gangs control the citizens with violence and fear tactics |
| [13:09:00] | Shadowpillar: | and the gangs kill each other off |
| [13:09:00] | ldam (n=ld@port161.ds1-noe.adsl.cybercity.dk) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | religion is the best way to keep a man down though.. get the media under your control & you've pretty much got it covered |
| [13:09:00] | Shadowpillar: | I dont like john howard though, he's the reason I wouldnt move to aussie |
| [13:09:00] | Shadowpillar: | yep |
| [13:09:00] | Shadowpillar: | Canada is still the best candidate |
| [13:09:00] | Ediehow: | i take it both of you guys are pretty far left:) |
| [13:09:00] | Shadowpillar: | they're america jr. |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | yeh but even those guys are going bad now |
| [13:09:00] | Shadowpillar: | Ediehow: nah, I like guns |
| [13:09:00] | Ediehow: | Shadowpillar: they just threw out their PM |
| [13:10:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: I'm just anti-PC |
| [13:10:00] | Juski: | and pro-common sense |
| [13:10:00] | Ediehow: | the funny thing is |
| [13:10:00] | Ediehow: | i bet they will elect him again |
| [13:10:00] | Shadowpillar: | yeah, political unrest is a problem, but hey, we may near that point too |
| [13:11:00] | Shadowpillar: | also, good for them, we the people dont get many chances to kick out our leaders, and when we do, laws are passed that make it harder to do |
| [13:11:00] | Shadowpillar: | if people were to start something to get bush impeached, they'd end up in guantanamo bay |
| [13:11:00] | Shadowpillar: | or dead |
| [13:11:00] | Ediehow: | Shadowpillar: yeah, that's not an exaggeration |
| [13:11:00] | Shadowpillar: | no shit |
| [13:11:00] | Ediehow: | Shadowpillar: that's insane, they call for bush to be impeached every day |
| [13:12:00] | Shadowpillar: | and the enforcers for the RIAA and MPAA are the homeland security people |
| [13:12:00] | Ediehow: | haha |
| [13:12:00] | Ediehow: | Shadowpillar: let me guess, you believe artists should not be able to profit off their products? |
| [13:12:00] | Shadowpillar: | Ediehow: every movement that gets a good following to get bush impeached (they get tons of sigs, etc, they suddenly disband. |
| [13:12:00] | croppa (i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [13:13:00] | Ediehow: | Shadowpillar: err, cindy sheehan was disbanded? |
| [13:13:00] | Ediehow: | last i remember, she was doing a book tour |
| [13:13:00] | Shadowpillar: | I believe they should profit off their products |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: you know how small a proportion of their revenue goes to the artist? it's very tiny |
| [13:13:00] | Ediehow: | Juski: then why are many artists millionaires? |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | like less than $1 per $10 CD |
| [13:13:00] | Ediehow: | if you sell 1 million records |
| [13:13:00] | Ediehow: | that's 1 million dollars |
| [13:13:00] | Ediehow: | at least |
| [13:14:00] | Shadowpillar: | however, I do not believe the middle man should have so much power and use an age old problem as a new threat as a method to create LAWS that allow them to legally price gouge |
| [13:14:00] | Juski: | I'm with Shadowpillar on that one |
| [13:15:00] | Juski: | most DRM is pathetic anyway. look at Itunes... you can't play that mp4 file on just anything, but they let you burn a CD and erm... how easy is it to rip a CD? ;) |
| [13:15:00] | Ediehow: | so you guys want regulation for artists' works? |
| [13:15:00] | Shadowpillar: | the DMCA passed, the mpaa and riaa took all focus off music (compare music pre-1998 to post 1998, you will notice a quality drop) and onto litigation and racketeering |
| [13:15:00] | Shadowpillar: | also, I dont pay for new music as I dont listen to new music :) |
| [13:15:00] | Shadowpillar: | I do buy the older stuff though |
| [13:16:00] | Shadowpillar: | however, the RIAA will consider that a sale lost to piracy, at least claim it is |
| [13:16:00] | Juski: | there's a reason why cinema revenues are down. when was the last time you went 3 times in a row to see different films & didnt feel "that was 2 hours of my life I'll never get back" ? |
| [13:16:00] | Shadowpillar: | bingo |
| [13:17:00] | Shadowpillar: | and part of it is intentional as they can blame losses on piracy, thus strengthening their arguement to a bunch of old rich white guys who are socially inept or socially behind the times and have no idea what's going on outside of the political world |
| [13:17:00] | Shadowpillar: | some of it is racketeering, the other is dumb fear |
| [13:18:00] | Ediehow: | i bet you guys are bill gates fans;( |
| [13:18:00] | Ediehow: | ;) |
| [13:18:00] | Shadowpillar: | fear that the age of computers will destroy their legacy markets |
| [13:18:00] | Shadowpillar: | fuck him, he's useless, he's Ballmer's cocksock. |
| [13:18:00] | Ediehow: | he had a purpose |
| [13:18:00] | Ediehow: | he made computing accessible to the general public |
| [13:19:00] | Shadowpillar: | sorta |
| [13:19:00] | Ediehow: | but he's like training wheels |
| [13:19:00] | Shadowpillar: | we'd be hating on jobs and wozniak if microsoft had failed |
| [13:19:00] | Shadowpillar: | though we'd be using superior processors and x86 would have died like it was supposed to |
| [13:20:00] | Ediehow: | but we'd be paying more |
| [13:20:00] | Shadowpillar: | maybe |
| [13:20:00] | Shadowpillar: | you really cant what if the situation |
| [13:20:00] | Ediehow: | oh for sure, less people would have bought computers |
| [13:20:00] | Ediehow: | sure you can, computers are used by EVERYONE now |
| [13:20:00] | Ediehow: | and they are easy to use |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | if that had not have happened, what would it be like |
| [13:21:00] | Shadowpillar: | I want some barbeque chicken suddenly |
| [13:21:00] | Shadowpillar: | anyway |
| [13:21:00] | Shadowpillar: | I have the money for that sabrent card |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 07:20:33.865 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 07:20:33.894 Using protocol version 15 |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 07:21:06.873 Using protocol version 15 |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 07:21:09.542 Opening audio device 'default'. |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | Using XvMC version: 1.0 |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | XvMC found and using IDCT surface |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–27 07:21:09.904 Using XV port 270 |
| [13:21:00] | Shadowpillar: | christmas and birthday money |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | [david@home main]$ rm core.3312 |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | that's great |
| [13:21:00] | Ediehow: | no closer |
| [13:22:00] | Ediehow: | i don't get what is wrong with the xvmc here |
| [13:27:00] | Shadowpillar (n=Shadow@global-66-81-254-77.dialup.o1.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [13:40:00] | simcop2387 (n=simcop23@p3m/member/simcop2387) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [13:41:00] | Juski: | Ediehow: maybe the problem isn't xvmc. try a recent build of xine to see how that plays (but test it with mpeg2 files) |
| [13:42:00] | Ediehow: | Juski: oh i'm having other problems as well, with mpeg playback, but i can't get xvmc working, which i thought might fix it |
| [13:45:00] | Tommck (n=Tommck@dpc691923046.direcpc.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [13:45:00] | Tommck (n=Tommck@dpc691923046.direcpc.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [13:52:00] | stoffel_ (n=sfr@p50815B3F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:06:00] | Kelerion: | I need to read up of xvmc and whether it applies to me.. ie, what is it!.. anyone have any links to read? |
| [14:06:00] | stoffel (n=sfr@p50816398.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [14:06:00] | t00m: | arghl, now i now why it doesn't boot after upgrading. manual says: Make sure the total installed memory does not exceeds 512MB. Otherwise, the system may hang during startup. |
| [14:06:00] | t00m: | crappy old hardware :) |
| [14:07:00] | braniff (n=asdfasdf@unaffiliated/braniff) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:08:00] | Juski: | kelerion: in a nutshell, xvmc is X video Motion Compensation. it's for helping in the decoding of mpeg2 |
| [14:08:00] | Kelerion: | and under what circumstances/hardware etc etc.. is it used? |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | kelerion: for peeps with nvidia or unichrome (via s3) graphics controllers |
| [14:09:00] | Kelerion: | I have a PVR-250.. and an Nvidia.. should I need it? |
| [14:09:00] | Juski: | to help underpowered CPUs decode mpeg2 |
| [14:09:00] | Kelerion: | ah |
| [14:10:00] | Kelerion: | mx440.. so I really should be using it.. right? |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | what CPU do you have? |
| [14:10:00] | Kelerion: | athlon 2800+ |
| [14:10:00] | Fitzsimmons: | does ATI not have hardware decoding? |
| [14:10:00] | Kelerion: | combined FE/BE |
| [14:10:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit ("Sho Ryu Ken") | |
| [14:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | you don't need nit |
| [14:10:00] | Juski: | it'd lessen the CPU load, but not so you'd notice much with a CPU like that |
| [14:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | you got plenty of cpu |
| [14:11:00] | Kelerion: | I've never used it in 2 years.. but am re-installing with the new TV.. and I want the best output I can with the hardware I have.. |
| [14:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | it wont affect picture quality |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | it won't improve video quality. only a graphics upgrade could do that |
| [14:12:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. got it |
| [14:12:00] | Juski: | my old mx card had really shite tv output quality |
| [14:13:00] | mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-5-107.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:13:00] | Kelerion: | my tv has a vga input.. so am using it straight to that.. figured it'd be better quality |
| [14:13:00] | Caveman (n=a@203-206-247-178.dyn.iinet.net.au) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [14:13:00] | Kelerion: | just a big monitor then |
| [14:13:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [14:14:00] | Juski: | saw my inlaws new tv the other day.. some thomson 100hz thing.. picture quality is truly awful |
| [14:15:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. so am on the "Hardware Decoding Settings" in setup.. it has "Enable OpenGL VSync" "Hardware XvMC MPEG Decoding" and "HW XVMC VLD Decoding (Via Only)"..so I dont really want any of that on? |
| [14:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | gl vsync is good |
| [14:15:00] | Juski: | yeh it minimises the video tearing |
| [14:16:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. done :) |
| [14:16:00] | hackmiester (n=Jew@adsl-0-182-205.mob.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:17:00] | trexx (n=genx@CPE0013461e823d-CM00080dc70249.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [14:17:00] | Kelerion: | the natural resolution for this tv is 848x480.. and I have X running at that.. but the whole display is jumped left by an inch.. both GUI and TV.. where should I be looking to fix that? and at that resolution the GUI's font's are all "bitty".. but not if I run it at 800x600.. |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | all the themes are based on 800x600 res at 100dpi |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | so set your X dpi to 100 |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | no idea how to do that though |
| [14:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | startx — -dpi 100 |
| [14:18:00] | hackmiester: | Juski: that's not entirely true |
| [14:18:00] | Kelerion: | in gdm.conf |
| [14:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [14:18:00] | hackmiester: | it should work wihout that |
| [14:18:00] | hackmiester: | Kelerion: with TV out off does it do that? |
| [14:19:00] | Kelerion: | tv out off? |
| [14:19:00] | spiderworm (n=David@blender/support/spiderworm) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [14:19:00] | Kelerion: | am only running on the tv.. not as a secondary display |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: you might need to tweak the graphics with xvidtune, or else make a custom modeline |
| [14:20:00] | Kelerion: | oh hell.. not modelines.. I can't get my head around those.. lol |
| [14:20:00] | hackmiester: | Kelerion: what he said... try it with a monitor |
| [14:25:00] | Juski: | hackmiester: Kelerion is using the VGA input of his TV, which is about the same thing |
| [14:27:00] | Kelerion: | great... 652 websites say my tv is 852x480.. and the manual says it's 848x480 |
| [14:29:00] | braniff (n=asdfasdf@unaffiliated/braniff) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [14:35:00] | Juski (n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust8.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [14:36:00] | riksta (n=rick@87.113.11.91.bbplus.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:42:00] | Kelerion: | I have -dpi 100 on startup.. but the log file says "(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (21, 28)" that right? |
| [14:49:00] | Kabutor (n=kabutor@22.Red-81-44-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:50:00] | Kabutor: | wich is the "config =" value I have to put in lircrc for make the Av.Pag |
| [14:50:00] | shingoki (n=shingoki@84-51-139-127.iainwe264.adsl.metronet.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [14:51:00] | shingoki: | hi, can anyoen tell me how to turn on subtitles in TV? |
| [14:53:00] | Kabutor: | or how to make work the year category – sorting in mythgame svn |
| [14:58:00] | Kabutor: | config = pgup ? |
| [15:00:00] | Kabutor: | config = Page Down <- right answer :) |
| [15:00:00] | hunterotd (n=hunter@68-184-3-236.dhcp.mmll.ar.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:03:00] | praet (n=praet@wsip-68-15-32-50.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:21:00] | KaZeR (n=kazer@81.80.35.247) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
| [15:21:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3567240.sympatico.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:21:00] | Fitzsimmons: | hi Raven_301 |
| [15:22:00] | Raven_301: | Hi Fitzsimmons |
| [15:23:00] | madbrain (n=chatzill@gateway.thetaband.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:24:00] | madbrain: | hello! |
| [15:24:00] | Fitzsimmons: | hi |
| [15:25:00] | madbrain: | does anyone know much about the firewire support in mythtv ? |
| [15:25:00] | Fitzsimmons: | not I |
| [15:25:00] | KaZeR (n=kazer@81.80.32.245) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:26:00] | madbrain: | I haven't built my mythtv box yet . but I have a Samsung SIR-T165 HDTV STB with Firewire in/out ; as well as a JVC 30000 DVHS with firewire |
| [15:26:00] | madbrain: | I was wondering if Mythtv could record OTA HD from the Samsung via Firewire |
| [15:27:00] | madbrain: | and also dump programs to DVHS tape |
| [15:28:00] | adante_ (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:28:00] | \Grooby\_: | a quick search on the mailing list might return something |
| [15:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
| [15:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | never tried firewire stuff myself (don't own any of those boxes) |
| [15:29:00] | madbrain: | thanks grooby, I will look there ! |
| [15:29:00] | madbrain: | I'm not really crazy about relying on the Samsung STB, but it would save me from buying an HDTV tuner card if the firewire capture works |
| [15:30:00] | sPiN (n=spin@24-181-193-034.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [15:30:00] | wolog (n=wolog@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-185-160.adsl.proxad.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [15:30:00] | madbrain: | however I'd really like to get the DVHS to work, to allow my video collection to grow. HDTV eats up ~10 GB/hr so even a 1 TB RAID array is only going to be 100 hrs... |
| [15:31:00] | Fitzsimmons: | 10 GB/hr eh |
| [15:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | i transcode mine |
| [15:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | down to about 5.5/hr |
| [15:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | ehehehe |
| [15:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | so 1TB raid is 200 hrs |
| [15:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | or so |
| [15:33:00] | madbrain: | that must take a long time to transcode, though, right ? |
| [15:33:00] | madbrain: | and I don't particularly want to lose quality. plus the tapes are going to live longer than the hard drives |
| [15:33:00] | Fitzsimmons: | the tapes are magnetic too aren't they? |
| [15:34:00] | madbrain: | yeah |
| [15:34:00] | madbrain: | but mostly they'll be sitting on shelves, not like the hard drive spinning every day |
| [15:34:00] | Fitzsimmons: | good point |
| [15:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | no medium will last forever |
| [15:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehehe |
| [15:35:00] | madbrain: | right |
| [15:35:00] | madbrain: | I'd hate to backup the entire 1 TB array though |
| [15:35:00] | madbrain: | but I can copy the tapes one at a time if they go bad |
| [15:36:00] | Fitzsimmons: | both of those conclusions have some fallacy to them ;) |
| [15:36:00] | \Grooby\_: | raid those tapes |
| [15:36:00] | \Grooby\_: | j/k |
| [15:36:00] | \Grooby\_: | (that would just be total pain in da butt) |
| [15:36:00] | madbrain: | RAID only works with random access disks AFAIK ;) |
| [15:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | not if you sync 3 of those tape drives together |
| [15:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | :-D |
| [15:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | anyway....got a question regarding mythmusic |
| [15:38:00] | madbrain: | lol |
| [15:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | at this point, I don't have ALSA-OSS compiled into my kernel |
| [15:38:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.storageheaven.com/products/drivearrays_tapedrive.asp |
| [15:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | and mythmusic crashes |
| [15:38:00] | t00m: | dudes, what's the deal with that transcoding? why can i enable it only while watching the recording and why does it error when I stop watching it? |
| [15:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | i heard mythmusic uses OSS? |
| [15:42:00] | adante (n=adante@203-206-18-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [15:42:00] | adante_ is now known as adante | |
| [15:42:00] | cwsmith (n=Ebless@72.24.100.173) Quit ("I am Using Ebless ScripT v8 Special For Ops, If you Want Best Channel Protection, DownLoad your Copy From - http://i.am/Ebles) | |
| [15:47:00] | Cromz (n=ross@CPE-70-92-136-17.mn.res.rr.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [15:49:00] | Ryushin (i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:56:00] | deego (n=user@12.166.244.34) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [15:56:00] | Kabutor (n=kabutor@22.Red-81-44-204.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [16:00:00] | Lad (n=manish@222.11.169.217.in-addr.arpa) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:05:00] | mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-5-107.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [16:08:00] | janne_oo (n=Jarkko@dsl-kpogw7-fe33f800-217.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:08:00] | janne_oo: | how do I do the actual channel tuning with an analog card? |
| [16:09:00] | janne_oo: | I think I have pretty much everything else configured |
| [16:09:00] | mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-84-140.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:09:00] | janne_oo: | I'm running out of keywords to google with :/ |
| [16:12:00] | darkdrgn2k (n=darkdrgn@CPE00508d55060b-CM00125573082a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:12:00] | darkdrgn2k: | he, any one here get the PVR150 ir blaster to work? |
| [16:14:00] | Chacabaou (n=daniel@dialin.212.114.180.230.NEFkom.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:18:00] | so_: | darkdrgn2k, yes |
| [16:18:00] | so_: | ivtv 0.4.0 plus Mark's patches |
| [16:20:00] | janne_oo: | so nobody here knows how to tune an analog tv-card? |
| [16:20:00] | Fitzsimmons: | not specifically |
| [16:20:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I have one, but I use it with cable |
| [16:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so_: ok i got ivtv 4.1, it says it should have the 150 in it |
| [16:21:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it "just worked" when I set it to (for example) channel 3 |
| [16:21:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so_: i see it creates a lirc device (/dev/lirc1) but i dont get any input fro it using irw |
| [16:21:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I take it lircd is running and configured? |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: well im rebooting now cause it started crashing (unable to connect to device) |
| [16:22:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: but i did do the lircd.conf file and the licmd.conf file |
| [16:22:00] | so_: | darkdrgn2k, got lircd up and running, copied the massive lircd.conf file from Mark's site which gets the buttons from the remote and a zillion remote codes too |
| [16:23:00] | so_: | I'm using an external tuner too |
| [16:24:00] | darkdrgn2k: | damit now i lost my /dev/lircs |
| [16:25:00] | madbrain: | bye everybody! |
| [16:26:00] | madbrain (n=chatzill@gateway.thetaband.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [16:26:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: what site the command line to start licrd |
| [16:26:00] | Fitzsimmons: | depends a lot on the distro |
| [16:27:00] | Fitzsimmons: | although lircd & will often work for testing |
| [16:27:00] | Fitzsimmons: | you should try to use the init script though |
| [16:27:00] | Lad (n=manish@222.11.169.217.in-addr.arpa) Quit ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") | |
| [16:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: im using mandriva but i just compiuled my own so no init script |
| [16:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i keep getting this: |
| [16:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:30:11 localhost lircd 0.7.2: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [16:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:30:11 localhost lircd 0.7.2: could not get file information for /dev/lirc |
| [16:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:30:11 localhost lircd 0.7.2: default_init(): No such file or directory |
| [16:27:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:30:11 localhost lircd 0.7.2: caught signal |
| [16:27:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yeah |
| [16:27:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it doesn't see the device |
| [16:28:00] | Fitzsimmons: | do you know what module your receiver uses? |
| [16:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lirc_i2c |
| [16:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:28:38 localhost kernel: lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x71 (Hauppauge IR (PVR150)) |
| [16:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:28:38 localhost kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=Hauppauge IR (PVR150), addr=71] |
| [16:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:28:38 localhost kernel: lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 10 |
| [16:28:00] | Fitzsimmons: | is it inserted? |
| [16:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | yep |
| [16:29:00] | Fitzsimmons: | but /dev/lirc[0] is not created? |
| [16:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | seems to be AFTER i run lircd |
| [16:29:00] | Fitzsimmons: | is that /dev/lirc or /dev/lircd? |
| [16:29:00] | Fitzsimmons: | because there is a difference |
| [16:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | both |
| [16:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | trying again 1 sec |
| [16:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ls: /dev/lir*: No such file or directory |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | modprobe lirc_i2c |
| [16:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | indeed :( |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ls /dev/lirc* |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | /dev/lirc0 |
| [16:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I'm not sure how mandriva handles device node creation |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ok now its there! |
| [16:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | is it udev? |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | yeh it does |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ok |
| [16:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | nice |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i installed the module and it is there now |
| [16:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | try lircd :) |
| [16:30:00] | darkdrgn2k: | now how do i start lircd to use that? |
| [16:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | automatic, I think |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:33:56 localhost lircd 0.7.2: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:33:56 localhost lircd 0.7.2: could not get file information for /dev/lirc |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:33:56 localhost lircd 0.7.2: default_init(): No such file or directory |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:33:56 localhost lircd 0.7.2: caught signal |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | see it uses lirc |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | it tries to use lirc |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | not lirc0 |
| [16:31:00] | Fitzsimmons: | hm |
| [16:31:00] | Fitzsimmons: | not sure |
| [16:31:00] | Fitzsimmons: | check the manpage I guess |
| [16:31:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lirc0 is the READ device right? |
| [16:32:00] | Fitzsimmons: | makes sense, yeah |
| [16:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lircd -d /dev/lirc0 |
| [16:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:34:54 localhost lircd 0.7.2: lircd(hauppauge) ready |
| [16:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | irw |
| [16:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Dec 27 11:34:57 localhost lircd 0.7.2: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [16:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | all right |
| [16:32:00] | psofa (n=psofa@ppp20-adsl-234.ath.forthnet.gr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | NICE!! it works |
| [16:32:00] | psofa: | im not getting all channels with autoscan |
| [16:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL and i didnt do anythign differnt :-S |
| [16:32:00] | Fitzsimmons: | :) |
| [16:32:00] | psofa: | whats wrong? |
| [16:32:00] | psofa: | im on dvb-s |
| [16:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: whats the best way to add thsi to my boot up.. as i dofnt have the init.d script anymore |
| [16:33:00] | Fitzsimmons: | probably the local script |
| [16:33:00] | darkdrgn2k: | rc.local |
| [16:33:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I'm not sure how that is handled in mandriva either |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | its similar to redhat |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | oops its devfs not udef |
| [16:34:00] | Fitzsimmons: | really |
| [16:34:00] | Fitzsimmons: | they're behind :) |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | lol |
| [16:34:00] | Fitzsimmons: | devfs was obsolete and depreciated years ago |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | and this is 2006 edition LOL |
| [16:34:00] | Fitzsimmons: | haha |
| [16:34:00] | darkdrgn2k: | yeh well its the only distro tats easey enough to get working with my laptop |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so i use it |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | that and im addicted to urpmi |
| [16:35:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I'm more of a debian/gentoo/BSD person |
| [16:35:00] | Fitzsimmons: | have you tried ubuntu at all? |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: i ahve briefly |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: its debian based.... |
| [16:35:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yeah |
| [16:35:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: but its not as grpahical :-P |
| [16:36:00] | Fitzsimmons: | the installation isn't, I suppose |
| [16:36:00] | ** Kelerion loves ubuntu ** | |
| [16:36:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it is still simple enough |
| [16:36:00] | Fitzsimmons: | press next enough and you're done :P |
| [16:36:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: LOL not when you have a sony laptop |
| [16:36:00] | Fitzsimmons: | fair enough |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: hell i have to hack my video bios on boot to include the 1280x800 res that it doesnt include |
| [16:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | that doesn't sound fun at all |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: it works better then the toshiba i had.. once i set it all up |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: toshiba had NO support, i got everythign eworking,, but the fan kept spinnin LOL |
| [16:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | never tried linux on a laptop myself |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Fitzsimmons: it can be a pain |
| [16:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | never owned a laptop :) |
| [16:37:00] | darkdrgn2k: | dam propiatary stuff |
| [16:38:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i needed it for school |
| [16:38:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i install fedora on it first time around |
| [16:38:00] | darkdrgn2k: | couldnt get DRI to work! |
| [16:38:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I'll be getting a levono next year at school |
| [16:38:00] | Krazylegz (n=Krazyleg@pcp01478332pcs.quaryv01.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:38:00] | Fitzsimmons: | which is probably one of the best for linux support, so I'm happy about that |
| [16:38:00] | Juski (n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust8.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:38:00] | darkdrgn2k: | nice |
| [16:39:00] | darkdrgn2k: | now how do i set upo the remote for myth tv :-P |
| [16:40:00] | jasta (n=jasta@70-56-89-126.tukw.qwest.net) Quit ("leaving") | |
| [16:41:00] | so_: | darkdrgn2k, you're not using the lirc_pvr150 module? :) |
| [16:41:00] | so_: | or is that only in my hacked version? :) |
| [16:41:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so_: apperentl since verison 4.0 they included the PVR150 support in there :-P |
| [16:42:00] | darkdrgn2k: | uhh 7.2 |
| [16:42:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 0.7.1: 04/17/05 |
| [16:42:00] | darkdrgn2k: | ... |
| [16:42:00] | darkdrgn2k: | * added support for Hauppauge PVR150 (Per Jönsson) |
| [16:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so_" and it seems to work :) |
| [16:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | do you need to config anythign in mythtv for it to work |
| [16:43:00] | so_: | keep an eye on dmesg and watch for signs that the board's IR has crashed |
| [16:43:00] | so_: | that was the problem I was having |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so_: will do |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | do you need to config anythign in mythtv for it to work |
| [16:44:00] | so_: | no mine just worked when I had the right lircd.conf |
| [16:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so_: dam its looking for the lircrc file! |
| [16:45:00] | janne_oo (n=Jarkko@dsl-kpogw7-fe33f800-217.dhcp.inet.fi) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [16:46:00] | Krazylegz: | so_: Didn't you also need the .lircrc file? |
| [16:46:00] | so_: | I don't believe I have one |
| [16:46:00] | so_: | let me check |
| [16:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | so: check your ~/.mythtv/lircrc folder |
| [16:47:00] | phatmonkey^iBook (n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [16:47:00] | Kelerion: | you need an lircrc file to map between the remote and myth's functions |
| [16:47:00] | so_: | mmmm yes I have one of those |
| [16:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | where is yours? |
| [16:47:00] | so_: | in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [16:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | damit |
| [16:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | i see the ir signals but myth aint picking them up |
| [16:48:00] | Kelerion: | darkdrgn2k: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html |
| [16:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | just my config :-S |
| [16:50:00] | darkdrgn2k: | damit now my tv shows about 1 second then freeze |
| [16:50:00] | psofa: | do i need a new version of dvbtune and dvb stream if i have mythtv svn? |
| [16:53:00] | Juski: | psofa: wouldn't have thought so |
| [16:54:00] | psofa: | then why do i get missing channe;s |
| [16:54:00] | psofa: | chanels |
| [16:54:00] | Juski: | no idea |
| [16:54:00] | psofa: | dvbscan finds all the channels |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | maybe you need to do a proper scan |
| [16:55:00] | psofa: | mythtv doesnt find all of them |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | in mythtv I mean |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | maybe mythtv is ignoring the non-free-to-air ones |
| [16:55:00] | psofa: | it isnt |
| [16:56:00] | psofa: | i told it not to |
| [16:56:00] | psofa: | and it doesnt ignore them |
| [16:56:00] | Juski: | no idea. I've been having problems scanning on my ubuntu set up today |
| [16:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 2005-12–27 11:52:24.655 Can't enable VBI recording |
| [16:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | vbi: Invalid argument |
| [16:56:00] | darkdrgn2k: | whhat does that mean |
| [16:56:00] | Juski: | I think the kernel is screwed.. I get four devices in /dev/dvb when I have only one plugged in |
| [16:58:00] | psofa: | theres an option : import channels.conf |
| [16:58:00] | psofa: | what program creates a valid channel conf? |
| [16:58:00] | Juski: | eh? since when? |
| [16:58:00] | Juski: | in svn? |
| [16:58:00] | psofa: | in svn |
| [16:59:00] | Juski: | scan (from dvb-utils) can create a channels.conf |
| [16:59:00] | Juski: | scan blah blah blah > channels.conf |
| [16:59:00] | psofa: | oh ok |
| [16:59:00] | psofa: | nice then |
| [17:00:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3567240.sympatico.ca) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [17:12:00] | lars-ut (n=me@70.103.228.158) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:17:00] | Servo888 (n=Servo888@pcp0011429096pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:18:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3567240.sympatico.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:18:00] | Spida_ is now known as Spida | |
| [17:27:00] | Hoxzer (n=niko@dsl-hkigw2-fe1ede00-121.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:27:00] | dopester (n=dopester@adsl-146-162-173.clt.bellsouth.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [17:30:00] | t00m (n=tom@203-59-65-68.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
| [17:31:00] | psofa: | in mythweb i get some errors like URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration Error |
| [17:31:00] | psofa: | how do i enable url file-access? |
| [17:34:00] | praet: | psofa what is the file you are trying to access |
| [17:34:00] | praet: | a nuv file? |
| [17:34:00] | psofa: | nope |
| [17:35:00] | psofa: | just clicking on backend status |
| [17:35:00] | psofa: | iget that error |
| [17:35:00] | praet: | what is the exact error |
| [17:36:00] | lars-ut (n=me@70.103.228.158) Quit ("Of all the stratagems, to know when to quit is the best.") | |
| [17:39:00] | psofa: | can i delete some channels from mythweb with mythbackend open? |
| [17:39:00] | psofa: | Warning at /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb-svn/modules/status/handler.php, line 26: |
| [17:39:00] | psofa: | file_get_contents(): URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration Error |
| [17:39:00] | psofa: | Warning at /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb-svn/modules/status/handler.php, line 26: |
| [17:39:00] | psofa: | file_get_contents(http://127.0.0.1:6544): failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found |
| [17:40:00] | psofa: | The system administrator has been notified and the problem will be remedied shortly. |
| [17:40:00] | psofa: | i doubt this system administrator will fix the problem though |
| [17:40:00] | psofa: | :P |
| [17:41:00] | Cromz (n=ross@CPE-70-92-136-17.mn.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:46:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3567240.sympatico.ca) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [17:47:00] | praet: | psofa do you have an ip address on the network card? |
| [17:48:00] | psofa: | what question is that |
| [17:48:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Toronto-HSE-ppp3907646.sympatico.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [17:48:00] | psofa: | how couldnt i have an ip adrees |
| [17:48:00] | psofa: | Oo |
| [17:48:00] | praet: | like is your ethernet set to 192.168... |
| [17:48:00] | psofa: | ofc |
| [17:48:00] | praet: | 127.0.0.1 is your loopback address |
| [17:48:00] | psofa: | its not like it doesnt work at all |
| [17:49:00] | psofa: | it doesnt work on some parts only |
| [17:49:00] | praet: | have you tried conencting to your hostname? http://mythtv/ |
| [17:50:00] | Ryushin (i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [17:50:00] | psofa: | as i said |
| [17:50:00] | psofa: | mythweb works |
| [17:50:00] | psofa: | generally |
| [17:50:00] | psofa: | but somethings dont |
| [17:50:00] | praet: | i meant to test those parts not worjing with a different address |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: is mythweb on the same box as mythbackend ? |
| [17:50:00] | psofa: | yes |
| [17:51:00] | psofa: | :) |
| [17:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | nevermind, I just scrolled up and read that error message |
| [17:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never seen that before |
| [17:52:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [17:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Obviously php/apache config related, but you will need to start up google to find out what it is |
| [17:54:00] | phoner: | how to I get mythtv to make a logfile |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | -l logfile |
| [17:55:00] | phoner: | oh ok |
| [17:55:00] | Juski (n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust8.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) Quit ("The icecaps are not melting. The water is being liberated") | |
| [17:58:00] | jams (n=jams@72.131.1.20) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [17:59:00] | dberry (n=dberry@pknat1.passkey.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:03:00] | so_ (n=mbest@130.209-89-70-0.interbaun.com) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [18:04:00] | kormoc (n=kormoc@c-24-19-148-45.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:13:00] | psofa: | is it phps error or apaches? |
| [18:16:00] | psofa: | nm fixed it |
| [18:17:00] | bronco1 (n=mail@bgp924240bgs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:17:00] | bronco1: | hello all |
| [18:21:00] | bronco1: | I am working on an install of FC4 using Jarod's guide |
| [18:21:00] | bronco1: | I am getting the error "QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" when I attempt to run mythtv-setup as user mythtv |
| [18:21:00] | squeegy (n=mike@207-250-126-135.gen.twtelecom.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:22:00] | bronco1: | There was a post on avsforum where someone said they "It took |
| [18:22:00] | bronco1: | alot of searching to realize that this was a mysql version mismatch between the frontend |
| [18:22:00] | bronco1: | and backend mysql libraries. After I loaded matching versions, all is well. |
| [18:22:00] | bronco1: | I am not sure how to check the |
| [18:22:00] | bronco1: | "matching versions" |
| [18:22:00] | bronco1: | any help would be appreciated |
| [18:29:00] | lars-ut (n=me@70.103.228.158) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:29:00] | poop: | bronco: It sounds like you're missing the Qt mysql plug-in |
| [18:31:00] | bronco1: | yeah, I am not sure how to check it though |
| [18:31:00] | Azariah (n=Azariah1@pcp04063008pcs.grey01.tn.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:31:00] | poop: | Use your package manager. |
| [18:32:00] | ** bronco1 looks up "man yum" ** | |
| [18:32:00] | psofa: | well sth is wrong with mythweather and its not my place's problem because mythweb displays weather fine |
| [18:34:00] | psofa: | howeverhowver mythfrontend cant download the maps |
| [18:34:00] | psofa: | HttpComms::done() – NetworkOperation Error on Finish: Re |
| [18:34:00] | psofa: | quest aborted (1): url: 'http://image.weather.com/images/sat/europesat_600x405.j |
| [18:34:00] | psofa: | pg' |
| [18:34:00] | Azariah: | I have a cutlist created.....I want to apply it and convert to divx...how do i remove the commercials? |
| [18:34:00] | psofa: | however this url is valid |
| [18:34:00] | poop: | Azariah: nuvexport |
| [18:35:00] | poop: | psofa: Can you get to that url in a browser? |
| [18:35:00] | psofa: | yes |
| [18:35:00] | psofa: | thats what im saying |
| [18:36:00] | psofa: | which leads me to the assumption that httpcomms() doesnt work ok? |
| [18:36:00] | poop: | I wonder what library it uses for http. |
| [18:36:00] | psofa: | me to |
| [18:36:00] | psofa: | too |
| [18:36:00] | Azariah: | is there a way to say convert all movies in nuv export? I tried to use infile=file.nuv....It crashes. I use a script to copy the cutlist. |
| [18:37:00] | Fitzsimmons: | if you're using the open source drivers, can an ATI card be used to help with video decoding? |
| [18:38:00] | poop: | psofa: Could be Qt |
| [18:38:00] | ** poop ponders ltrace ** | |
| [18:39:00] | psofa: | i think its Qt |
| [18:39:00] | psofa: | you must be right |
| [18:40:00] | Azariah: | I have a script that converts all .nuv files to the correct file name in a specific directory. I want to use my cutlist to delete the commercial. |
| [18:42:00] | Grille (i=christia@bot4free.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:42:00] | Cromz (n=ross@CPE-70-92-136-17.mn.res.rr.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [18:44:00] | Grille: | hey |
| [18:44:00] | Grille: | i am looking for a cheap DVB-SAT card, which card do you have? |
| [18:45:00] | praet: | psofa how did you fix it? |
| [18:45:00] | psofa: | it was an option in php config |
| [18:46:00] | psofa: | URL file-access or sth |
| [18:46:00] | psofa: | just turned it on |
| [18:46:00] | praet: | right on target |
| [18:46:00] | praet: | psofa are you running myth svn? |
| [18:46:00] | psofa: | yes |
| [18:46:00] | psofa: | running has many meanings |
| [18:46:00] | psofa: | :P |
| [18:46:00] | praet: | heh |
| [18:46:00] | Cardoe: | Fitzsimmons: you mean hardware decode? |
| [18:47:00] | psofa: | im getting mad with httpComms |
| [18:47:00] | psofa: | why wont it dl the image |
| [18:47:00] | Cardoe: | Fitzsimmons: no. what you're talking about is a VIA and Nvidia feature... Nvidia barely does it... |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–27 20:45:22.971 getHttp: grabbing: 'http://image.weather.com/images/sat/europesat_600x405.jpg' |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–27 20:45:22.972 HttpComms::stateChanged: connecting (2) |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–27 20:45:23.354 HttpComms::stateChanged: sending (3) |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–27 20:45:23.546 HttpComms::stateChanged: reading (4) |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–27 20:45:23.546 Got HTTP response: 200:OK |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–27 20:45:23.546 Keys: accept-ranges,cache-control,content-length,content-type,date,etag,expires,last-m odified,server |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | 2005-12–27 20:45:42.987 HttpComms::Timeout for url: http://image.weather.com/images/sat/europesat_600x405.jpg |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | srry that was big |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | but not big enough for a pastebin ;) |
| [18:49:00] | psofa: | the goddamn thing continues to do that until it completelly aborts |
| [18:55:00] | Baylink (n=jra@rrcs-24-129-168-240.se.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:55:00] | psofa: | how can i increase the WeatherTimeout |
| [18:55:00] | psofa: | is it the same as the aggresiveness? |
| [18:57:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [18:59:00] | Freud^ (n=tommi@adsl7-114-27.du.simnet.is) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:02:00] | primeministerp (n=ppouliot@130.57.22.69) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [19:03:00] | primeministerp (n=ppouliot@130.57.22.69) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:06:00] | Hoxzer (n=niko@dsl-hkigw2-fe1ede00-121.dhcp.inet.fi) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [19:08:00] | mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-84-140.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [19:08:00] | galorin (n=richard@dynamic-62-56-42-136.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:09:00] | galorin: | Hey, I'm looking to set up a stereo system, just a 2 speaker system, but I'm having trouble finding a good amp with s/pdif inputs or a soundcard that'll do stereo leads. What do yall use? |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | I use a sound blaster live 16 bit, but that's only to normal powered sucky speakers |
| [19:12:00] | psofa: | hmm |
| [19:12:00] | psofa: | maxredirects |
| [19:12:00] | psofa: | whats exactly that means? |
| [19:13:00] | kormoc: | when / redirects to / it goes in a loop |
| [19:14:00] | psofa: | okay |
| [19:14:00] | psofa: | the weather images |
| [19:14:00] | psofa: | are downloaded with a max redirect of 3 |
| [19:15:00] | psofa: | how are they sure that not more than 3 are needed? |
| [19:15:00] | Grille: | does twinhan cards work under linux ? |
| [19:16:00] | psofa: | how can i see if a redirect is needed? |
| [19:16:00] | psofa: | i mean |
| [19:16:00] | psofa: | when i open the link in the browses |
| [19:17:00] | psofa: | *browser |
| [19:17:00] | galorin: | kormoc, I see... Anyone else have full a/v setups? |
| [19:17:00] | psofa: | the image loads straight ahaid |
| [19:17:00] | psofa: | kormoc, ? |
| [19:18:00] | mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-6-58.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:18:00] | Kelerion: | I have an AV Receiver.. but it doesn't have spdif inputs |
| [19:19:00] | jams (n=jams@CPE-72-131-1-20.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | psofa, basically, it's because the browser deals with the redirects for you |
| [19:22:00] | psofa: | hm |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | psofa, 3 is the standard number of max redirects |
| [19:23:00] | psofa: | ill recompile |
| [19:23:00] | psofa: | with more redirects |
| [19:23:00] | psofa: | and 20second timeout |
| [19:23:00] | psofa: | and see what happens |
| [19:23:00] | psofa: | i think im getting obsessed with the weather |
| [19:25:00] | galorin: | Kelerion, how do you get the audio to the amp then? |
| [19:26:00] | psofa: | and nothing |
| [19:26:00] | psofa: | it keeps timingout |
| [19:27:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. yes it does have optical in.. it's alright.. am having a blonde day |
| [19:28:00] | galorin: | Make and model? |
| [19:29:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.hififorum.co.uk/modules/wfsection/ . . . articleid=11 |
| [19:30:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [19:30:00] | psofa: | however i dont thing the timeout is set to 20 secs |
| [19:31:00] | psofa: | even though i set it to 20000 |
| [19:32:00] | dhofstra__ (n=dhofstra@c-67-177-112-29.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:34:00] | bronco1: | hmmm |
| [19:34:00] | psofa: | btw is mythvideo on mythweb supposed to work? |
| [19:34:00] | bronco1: | how can I check that I have the correct QT for MySQL module installed and running? |
| [19:35:00] | bronco1: | I tried doing a "yum install qt-mysql" but it didn't work |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | psofa, it 'works' but is sucky |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | An unknown module was specified |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | video |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | ? |
| [19:39:00] | psofa: | what did i miss? |
| [19:40:00] | stevenm (n=stevenm@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:41:00] | stevenm: | Is there a way to get the backend to stream a DVD to a frontend ? |
| [19:41:00] | psofa: | and what are mythcontrols? |
| [19:41:00] | bronco1: | anyone know how I can check that I have libqt3-mysql installed? |
| [19:41:00] | Kelerion: | what dist? |
| [19:42:00] | Kelerion: | bronco1: what dist? |
| [19:42:00] | bronco1: | fc4 |
| [19:42:00] | Kelerion: | rpm -qa | grep mysql |
| [19:42:00] | Kelerion: | see if it's there |
| [19:43:00] | bronco1: | not there |
| [19:43:00] | Kelerion: | not installed there |
| [19:43:00] | Kelerion: | then |
| [19:44:00] | Kelerion: | bronco: you using apt? |
| [19:45:00] | bronco1: | nope |
| [19:45:00] | bronco1: | using yum as in Jarod |
| [19:45:00] | bronco1: | err Jarod's guide |
| [19:45:00] | bronco1: | I cannot seem to install apt either |
| [19:45:00] | Kelerion: | try: yum install qt-MySQL |
| [19:46:00] | bronco1: | yum gives me "No match for argument: qt-mysql" – "Nothing to do" |
| [19:47:00] | Kelerion: | case sensitive |
| [19:47:00] | mjmac (n=mjmac@pdpc/supporter/active/mjmac) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [19:47:00] | Kelerion: | try: yum install qt-MySQL |
| [19:47:00] | psofa: | kormoc, how do i setup the video over mythweb |
| [19:47:00] | bronco1: | same |
| [19:47:00] | psofa: | cant see anything in the docs |
| [19:47:00] | bronco1: | yum gives me "No match for argument: qt-MySQL" – "Nothing to do" |
| [19:48:00] | Kelerion: | you haven't added atrpms to yum's repo's yet then |
| [19:48:00] | bronco1: | hmm |
| [19:48:00] | bronco1: | I jsut checked that |
| [19:48:00] | bronco1: | I did a ls /etc/yum.repos.d/ |
| [19:48:00] | bronco1: | and a nano atrmps.repo |
| [19:48:00] | Kelerion: | atrmps.repo? |
| [19:49:00] | bronco1: | err |
| [19:49:00] | bronco1: | at atrpms.repo |
| [19:49:00] | _tester_ (n=yz@ool-182c08d1.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [19:49:00] | dhofstra_ (n=dhofstra@c-67-177-112-29.hsd1.in.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [19:49:00] | Kelerion: | done an apt-get update yet then? |
| [19:49:00] | galorin: | ta anyhow, I'll keep looking. I'm sure I'll be able to find something in my audiophile brother-in-law's price range. |
| [19:49:00] | Kelerion: | oops |
| [19:49:00] | Kelerion: | forget that |
| [19:49:00] | bronco1: | my laptop is smaller than my normal keyboard, and it giving me a few issues... I am using a regular sized keyboard for the myth box though |
| [19:50:00] | Kelerion: | what do you have in atrpms.repo? |
| [19:50:00] | psofa: | does anyone know sth about mythwebs video streaming? |
| [19:50:00] | psofa: | how do i enable it |
| [19:50:00] | bronco1: | Kelerion: apt is not installed, and I get the following error: |
| [19:50:00] | bronco1: | k |
| [19:50:00] | kormoc: | psofa, what video streaming? |
| [19:51:00] | psofa: | isnt that whats supposed to do? |
| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | no? |
| [19:51:00] | Kelerion: | bronco1: what do you have in atrpms.repo? |
| [19:51:00] | psofa: | see video on browser? |
| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | it supports downloading perhaps |
| [19:51:00] | psofa: | oh |
| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | but not streaming |
| [19:51:00] | bronco1: | in atrpms.repo I have: |
| [19:51:00] | psofa: | lol |
| [19:51:00] | bronco2 (n=mythtv@bgp924240bgs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:51:00] | psofa: | thanks for the info |
| [19:51:00] | bronco1: | I will be pasting from my fc4 with bronco2... |
| [19:51:00] | psofa: | its useless then |
| [19:51:00] | stevenm (n=stevenm@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) Quit ("Connection reset by beer") | |
| [19:52:00] | psofa: | do you happen to know whats mythcontrols? |
| [19:52:00] | bronco2: | [atrpms] |
| [19:52:00] | bronco2: | name=ATrpms for Fedora Core $releasever – $basearch |
| [19:52:00] | bronco2: | baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/fc$releasever-$basearch/atrpms/stable |
| [19:52:00] | bronco2: | enabled=1 |
| [19:52:00] | bronco2: | gpgcheck=1 |
| [19:52:00] | bronco2: | gpgkey=http://ATrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms |
| [19:52:00] | Kelerion: | bronco1: dunno then.. |
| [19:52:00] | menewbe (n=3e2ddfe5@you.have.just.been.owned.by.vengefuldeath.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [19:53:00] | galorin (n=richard@dynamic-62-56-42-136.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [19:53:00] | bronco2: | Kelerion, I get the following error when trying to install apt |
| [19:53:00] | bronco2: | Transaction Check Error: file /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources from install of atrpms-package-config-103–2.rhfc4.at conflicts with file from package fedora-release-4–2 |
| [19:53:00] | bronco2: | file /etc/yum.conf from install of atrpms-package-config-103–2.rhfc4.at conflicts with file from package yum-2.4.1–1.fc4 |
| [19:54:00] | Kelerion: | bronco1: don't try and install apt if your using yum.. try to keep it simple |
| [19:54:00] | bronco2: | ok |
| [19:54:00] | bronco2: | Kelerion, do you see a package for qt-MySQL when using yum in FC4? |
| [19:55:00] | Kelerion: | am not using fc4 |
| [19:55:00] | menewbe: | hey, I like mythtv so-far, but i have one struggle. How do I view downloaded movies with mythvideo? |
| [19:55:00] | Kelerion: | I can see it on an fc2 machine in the updates repo |
| [19:56:00] | bronco2: | [root@hdmyth yum.repos.d]# rpm -qa |grep SQL |
| [19:56:00] | bronco2: | MySQL-python-1.2.0–1 |
| [19:56:00] | bronco2: | perl-DBD-MySQL-2.9007–1 |
| [19:56:00] | bronco2: | qt-MySQL-3.3.4–15.4 |
| [19:56:00] | menewbe: | I've read README, but I want to load a whole dir at once |
| [19:56:00] | Kelerion: | it's there |
| [19:56:00] | bronco2: | yeah |
| [19:56:00] | bronco2: | the 1st grep was wrong case |
| [19:57:00] | Kelerion: | okies |
| [19:58:00] | bronco2: | so I am not quite sure what to do as I am pretty clumsy with linux |
| [19:58:00] | jams (n=jams@CPE-72-131-1-20.wi.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [19:59:00] | Kelerion: | I don't know if this'll work but try: yum install libqt3-mt-mysql |
| [19:59:00] | Kelerion: | if it's like my ubuntu box I needed that |
| [20:00:00] | bronco2: | one sec... |
| [20:00:00] | kormoc: | psofa, mythweb is designed to allow you to setup recording and all that from anywhere in the world, and a lot of people perfer it to myths own internal schedule setup |
| [20:00:00] | bronco2: | no match |
| [20:00:00] | psofa: | yep i know that |
| [20:00:00] | psofa: | i ment the video thing is useless |
| [20:01:00] | psofa: | mythweb is really a brilliant idea |
| [20:01:00] | kormoc: | it is, xris has been tring to get someone to rewrite it for ages |
| [20:01:00] | bronco2: | Kelerion: should I just try a re-install? |
| [20:01:00] | psofa: | if it could stream video it could make a nice frontend for windows machines |
| [20:01:00] | Kelerion: | bronco1: sorry.. can't help further.. but I suspect thats what you need.. the -mt version.. and I doubt a re-install will help.. you'll just come back to the same problem |
| [20:01:00] | kormoc: | streaming is a difficult feature to do correctly |
| [20:02:00] | bronco2: | Kelerion, what does the mt do? |
| [20:02:00] | jams (n=jams@CPE-72-131-1-20.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:02:00] | psofa: | yep i can imagine |
| [20:02:00] | psofa: | :) |
| [20:02:00] | Kelerion: | multi-threaded version |
| [20:03:00] | bronco2: | hmm |
| [20:03:00] | Kelerion: | I could be wrong though so don't quote me.. that might be a ubuntu thing |
| [20:04:00] | Kelerion: | it's been a while since I installed myth on fc4 |
| [20:04:00] | psofa: | btw can i easily tell myth to correct the channel numbers mess? i mean some channels share the same number and i have chan numbers of five digits while my chans are not more than 1000 |
| [20:04:00] | kormoc: | MT is multithreaded I beleive as well |
| [20:04:00] | lars-ut is now known as lars-ut-away | |
| [20:04:00] | kormoc: | psofa, via zap2it? |
| [20:04:00] | psofa: | nope |
| [20:04:00] | psofa: | the channel scanner makes a mess |
| [20:05:00] | psofa: | you mean if i dlded them via zap2it right? |
| [20:05:00] | bronco2: | Kelerion, do you know of some other resources I might check? |
| [20:05:00] | menewbe (n=3e2ddfe5@you.have.just.been.owned.by.vengefuldeath.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [20:06:00] | bronco2: | can anyone in here do a "rpm -qa |grep SQL" and "rpm -qa |grep sql" for me on FC4? |
| [20:06:00] | bronco2: | then I can check what I am missing for sure... |
| [20:14:00] | psofa: | kormoc, ? |
| [20:15:00] | praet: | bronco2 pastebin.com\480638 |
| [20:15:00] | psofa: | is it possible to tell myth to reasign numbers for all channels using proper numbers? |
| [20:18:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:22:00] | xris (n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:22:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [20:23:00] | bronco1: | thanks psofa |
| [20:23:00] | bronco1: | err praet |
| [20:23:00] | psofa: | sure |
| [20:23:00] | psofa: | :P |
| [20:23:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [20:23:00] | bronco1: | heh, both of ya |
| [20:23:00] | bronco1: | :-) |
| [20:23:00] | psofa: | rofl |
| [20:24:00] | psofa: | how do i clear the number mess |
| [20:24:00] | psofa: | i cant fix 1000 channels one by one |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | what's wrong with them ? |
| [20:25:00] | psofa: | even though i have 1000 or sth |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | "delete from channel;" would clear them from the database |
| [20:26:00] | Ediehow: | hi GreyFoxx |
| [20:26:00] | Ediehow: | how r u? |
| [20:26:00] | psofa: | i even have 5 digit numbers |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | hungry |
| [20:26:00] | Ediehow: | remember talking to me before? |
| [20:26:00] | Ediehow: | about multitasking problems? |
| [20:26:00] | psofa: | GreyFoxx, can you pls explain to me what you said? |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | vaguely yes |
| [20:26:00] | Ediehow: | i got an nvidia 6200 |
| [20:26:00] | Ediehow: | and i am having the same problems:( |
| [20:26:00] | Ediehow: | for instance, if i play an mpg |
| [20:27:00] | Ediehow: | and move xchat window around quickly, it jolts and stutters the playback |
| [20:27:00] | psofa: | you mean delete the whole channel number tab from the database? |
| [20:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: That is an SQL statement, if you used it when logged directly into the database it would empty the channel table |
| [20:27:00] | praet: | psofa what exactly are you trying to do delete all your channels and start over? |
| [20:28:00] | psofa: | this would delete only the numbers and not the channels right? |
| [20:28:00] | psofa: | i want to sort the channel numbers |
| [20:28:00] | praet: | not that code would delete the chnnels completely |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: No, it would delete the channels |
| [20:28:00] | psofa: | Oo |
| [20:28:00] | praet: | you can change the sort in mythtv setup |
| [20:28:00] | psofa: | thats surelly not what i want |
| [20:29:00] | psofa: | sort the numbers |
| [20:29:00] | psofa: | not the channel list |
| [20:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you talking about the3 chanid or the channum ? They are different |
| [20:30:00] | psofa: | i think i mean channum |
| [20:30:00] | psofa: | the number i use on the remote to change to the channel |
| [20:31:00] | Azariah (n=Azariah1@pcp04063008pcs.grey01.tn.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [20:31:00] | psofa: | ? |
| [20:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't understand what you mean whyen you say you want to "sort" them |
| [20:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I've only got like 60 seconds before I head out anyway :) |
| [20:32:00] | praet: | lol |
| [20:32:00] | psofa: | right now the channels are like |
| [20:32:00] | psofa: | 500 800 5000 15000 |
| [20:32:00] | psofa: | ... |
| [20:32:00] | psofa: | i want them 1,2,3,4,5 |
| [20:32:00] | psofa: | ... |
| [20:32:00] | psofa: | if thats not possible |
| [20:33:00] | praet: | psofa are those channels mapped to some channel changing script? |
| [20:33:00] | psofa: | deleting all the numbers and assigning some for the channs i want would be ok too |
| [20:33:00] | praet: | ie: how will chaning the channel via remote change the channel on your stb or tuner |
| [20:33:00] | psofa: | they are just imported from the dvbscan program |
| [20:34:00] | psofa: | erm |
| [20:34:00] | psofa: | im mythweb i see a list of channels |
| [20:34:00] | psofa: | each one with a channum |
| [20:34:00] | psofa: | pressing the channum numbers on remote and pushing enter |
| [20:34:00] | stoffel_ (n=sfr@p50815B3F.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit ("leaving") | |
| [20:34:00] | psofa: | tunes to the channel |
| [20:35:00] | psofa: | i dont understand the question :( |
| [20:35:00] | lars-ut-away is now known as lars-ut | |
| [20:36:00] | psofa: | cant i just delete the channum table |
| [20:36:00] | psofa: | ? |
| [20:36:00] | praet: | im not sure you can change them because then the tuner will not know which channel to move to |
| [20:36:00] | praet: | try one and see what happens |
| [20:36:00] | psofa: | i think youre saying crap :P |
| [20:37:00] | psofa: | ofc if i change the channum |
| [20:37:00] | Ediehow: | GreyFoxx: you there? |
| [20:37:00] | psofa: | ill need to enter the new channum |
| [20:37:00] | praet: | goto mythtv-setup, channel settings, and edit one channel from 800 to 1 and see if you can successfully change to that chan |
| [20:37:00] | psofa: | ofc i will |
| [20:37:00] | psofa: | for some reason thats obvious to me |
| [20:38:00] | psofa: | GreyFoxx, still around? |
| [20:43:00] | Freud^ (n=tommi@adsl7-114-27.du.simnet.is) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [20:43:00] | stoffel (n=sfr@p50815B3F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:43:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v stoffel | |
| [20:44:00] | praet: | psofa any luck? |
| [20:44:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Toronto-HSE-ppp3907646.sympatico.ca) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [20:45:00] | psofa: | well i cant have any luck if i dont get instructions on what to do |
| [20:45:00] | psofa: | and im not particularly used to mysql |
| [20:45:00] | beavis: | how can I find out why my mythweb doesn't switch the language? |
| [20:45:00] | praet: | ok load up mythtv-setup, dont clear any settings |
| [20:46:00] | psofa: | you mean the thing with changing one channel? |
| [20:46:00] | praet: | psofa go to 5.) channel settings |
| [20:46:00] | psofa: | im pretty sure it will work |
| [20:46:00] | praet: | right |
| [20:46:00] | psofa: | but i cant do the same for 1000 channels |
| [20:46:00] | praet: | if that is the case you could change the chan in the database if you are sure it works.. |
| [20:47:00] | psofa: | and how will i do that |
| [20:47:00] | psofa: | thats my question |
| [20:47:00] | a1fa (n=a1fa@24.144.51.32) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [20:48:00] | jams (n=jams@CPE-72-131-1-20.wi.res.rr.com) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [20:49:00] | praet: | ok first thing back up your db "mysqldump -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -c > mythtv_backup.sql" |
| [20:49:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [20:49:00] | praet: | use the username and password you use to access your mythtv |
| [20:49:00] | psofa: | ye ye |
| [20:49:00] | jams (n=jams@CPE-72-131-1-20.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:50:00] | psofa: | done |
| [20:53:00] | dasOp (i=dasop@paranoid.paranoidaxis.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:54:00] | praet: | k now you want to update the channum, but not the freqid or the sourcid etc.. |
| [20:55:00] | jaffamuffin (n=jaffamuf@cpc1-clyd1-4-0-cust9.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:55:00] | d3ity (n=d3ity@unaffiliated/d3ity) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [20:55:00] | psofa: | yep |
| [20:55:00] | d3ity: | hey all, i just got my new hauppage card and i have a question |
| [20:55:00] | d3ity: | my card is a wintv pvr 150mce |
| [20:56:00] | d3ity: | it only appears to have input jacks on it |
| [20:56:00] | psofa: | yes its only input iirc |
| [20:57:00] | praet: | psofa give me a min to check my sql |
| [20:57:00] | psofa: | sure |
| [20:58:00] | d3ity: | so thats all i be needing? |
| [20:58:00] | levon (n=levon@62.48.88.185) Quit ("bbl") | |
| [20:59:00] | d3ity: | theres no "out to tv"? |
| [20:59:00] | psofa: | nope |
| [20:59:00] | psofa: | you output via your graphics card |
| [21:00:00] | d3ity: | ah. so i have to get nasty radeon TV out working |
| [21:00:00] | d3ity: | if i want it on my TV |
| [21:04:00] | psofa: | praet, ? |
| [21:05:00] | praet: | just a sec |
| [21:06:00] | psofa: | sure sure thanks a lot |
| [21:09:00] | d3ity: | hrm....so i have to get tvout working... |
| [21:11:00] | squeegy (n=mike@207-250-126-135.gen.twtelecom.net) Quit ("This computer has gone to sleep") | |
| [21:15:00] | psofa: | does mysql prohibit external connections by default? |
| [21:15:00] | praet: | yes |
| [21:17:00] | psofa: | how do i enable them? |
| [21:17:00] | psofa: | at least for two external ips |
| [21:19:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3574792.sympatico.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:20:00] | praet: | $ mysql -u root mythconverg |
| [21:20:00] | praet: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [21:20:00] | praet: | mysql> flush privileges; |
| [21:20:00] | praet: | substitute your ip |
| [21:20:00] | mishehu: | mysql prohibits external connections by enforcing logins. |
| [21:20:00] | praet: | % is a wildcard |
| [21:20:00] | mishehu: | which has nothing to do with what IP addresses it can be accessed by (default is that it binds to all available IPs on a given machine) |
| [21:24:00] | chickeneater (n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) Quit ("Age Of Empires III") | |
| [21:25:00] | Fitzsimmons: | anyone here know much about lirc and the issues that it has with modern kernels? |
| [21:25:00] | psofa: | Fitzsimmons, the only thing i know is use the cvs version |
| [21:25:00] | psofa: | the stable versions gave me some problems bcause of recent changes in kernel |
| [21:26:00] | mishehu: | I don't recall if I had any problems recently, but if I did I think it was resolved with a quick patch |
| [21:26:00] | mishehu: | or even just a manual edit. |
| [21:26:00] | mishehu: | I only use the lirc_serial module though, none of the others. |
| [21:27:00] | psofa: | lirc_serial specifically was what i was having problems with |
| [21:27:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yeah, some unresolved symbols |
| [21:27:00] | psofa: | yes |
| [21:27:00] | psofa: | you can patch as mishehu says |
| [21:27:00] | bronco2 (n=mythtv@bgp924240bgs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [21:27:00] | psofa: | or use the cvs version |
| [21:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | 2005-12–27 11:53:05.654 Can't enable VBI recording |
| [21:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | vbi: Invalid argument |
| [21:28:00] | Fitzsimmons: | since I'm using a TV card, it looks like I might need some other kernel patches |
| [21:28:00] | darkdrgn2k: | what does that mean |
| [21:28:00] | Fitzsimmons: | the problem is that I'm pretty sure that my capture card is already supported by the kernel |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | Fitzsimmons: what chipset? |
| [21:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | cx88[0]: registered IR remote control |
| [21:30:00] | Fitzsimmons: | it finds it, but I have no idea how to use that with lirc |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | have to figure out which lirc module to load. |
| [21:31:00] | Fitzsimmons: | well, supposedly it is the lirc_gpio module |
| [21:31:00] | Fitzsimmons: | but that relies on bttv, which I am led to belive is obsolete/depreciated |
| [21:32:00] | Fitzsimmons: | never mind, there it is :| |
| [21:32:00] | Fitzsimmons: | I wonder if that means my capture card works with more than one type of kernel module |
| [21:33:00] | Fitzsimmons: | yes, it does. the one I'm running now is the successor |
| [21:33:00] | whyz (n=whyz@c892202a.n.bostream.se) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:34:00] | whyz: | are there any settings to make the recordings somewhat less grainy? some finetuning options in ivtv perhaps? |
| [21:34:00] | Ediehow: | whyz: change the bitrate you re recording the mpegs |
| [21:34:00] | superbenk (n=superben@pcp0010455700pcs.valenc01.az.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:35:00] | superbenk: | hello |
| [21:35:00] | levon (n=levon@62.48.88.185) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:35:00] | superbenk: | I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used an ATI 3D Rage LT (AGP) for TV-out? |
| [21:36:00] | whyz: | Ediehow, i'm using bitrate 8000000 |
| [21:36:00] | whyz: | .. do you know the max bitrate? |
| [21:36:00] | Ediehow: | wowzers |
| [21:36:00] | Ediehow: | i am using ivtv |
| [21:36:00] | whyz: | me too |
| [21:37:00] | Ediehow: | i am doing 2200 bitrate |
| [21:37:00] | Ediehow: | 720x480 resolution |
| [21:38:00] | whyz: | k :) |
| [21:38:00] | whyz: | actually, this has nothing to do with mythtv.. i'm watching live via pvr:// in vlc |
| [21:39:00] | whyz: | still grainy though ;/ |
| [21:39:00] | psofa: | whyz, youre using vlc? is it good? |
| [21:40:00] | whyz: | yeah it's the best i've found for watching tv with ivtv cards anyway |
| [21:40:00] | whyz: | made a playlist with the channels in it |
| [21:41:00] | Hunterzilla (n=Jew@adsl-220-164-70.mob.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:41:00] | whyz: | hm, i guess i could mess around with dynamic noise reduction filter in ivtvctl |
| [21:42:00] | psofa: | does it support xvmc? |
| [21:42:00] | psofa: | and hows lirc support? |
| [21:42:00] | psofa: | not many seem to use it |
| [21:42:00] | psofa: | and it seems polished |
| [21:43:00] | whyz: | lirc support is perfect |
| [21:44:00] | whyz: | i don't know if xvmc is supported |
| [21:44:00] | Ediehow: | whyz: for what card |
| [21:44:00] | whyz: | actually, i don't even know what it is.. googling a bit i figured it's something to do with hardware decoding? |
| [21:44:00] | Ediehow: | ivtv is for decoding |
| [21:44:00] | Ediehow: | not encoding |
| [21:44:00] | Ediehow: | xvmc is not related |
| [21:45:00] | Ediehow: | err |
| [21:45:00] | Ediehow: | ivtv is for encoding, not decoding |
| [21:45:00] | Slurpee` (i=ask@DHCP-192-124.onshore.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:45:00] | Fitzsimmons: | what's the best cvs snapshot of lirc to grab? |
| [21:46:00] | psofa: | whyz, so lirc support is way better than crappy mplayer? |
| [21:46:00] | corpix64 (n=corpix@p54BDF942.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:46:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3574792.sympatico.ca) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [21:46:00] | whyz: | Ediehow, yeah, it's for encoding the analog antenna signal to digital.. would there be a more perfect place to apply noise reduction? i don't see your point |
| [21:47:00] | Ediehow: | whyz: errr, what? i am saying xvmc is for decoding, ivtv is for encoding |
| [21:47:00] | whyz: | psofa, lol, i wouldn't call it "way" better.. what is it that you're missing in mplayer? |
| [21:48:00] | psofa: | for one id like to be able to switch subtitles with mplayer |
| [21:48:00] | whyz: | psofa, ah, dunno about mplayer, but that works fine in vlc |
| [21:48:00] | psofa: | without having to use irxevent |
| [21:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | "Can't enable VBI recording" is apperently the lac of captions in the 150, but i dont care about captions. how do i turn it off? |
| [21:48:00] | psofa: | switch between some aspect ratios |
| [21:49:00] | croppa (i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:49:00] | whyz: | Ediehow :) psofa asked me if vlc supported xvmc, and i said i didn't know.. but thanks for the info anyway :P |
| [21:49:00] | whyz: | psofa, haven't tried |
| [21:51:00] | Ediehow: | oh ok |
| [21:51:00] | lars-ut is now known as lars-ut-away | |
| [21:52:00] | psofa: | nice |
| [21:53:00] | psofa: | just trashed the whole database |
| [21:53:00] | whyz: | :/ |
| [21:53:00] | psofa: | now how do i restore the backup? |
| [21:54:00] | praet: | $ mysql -u root |
| [21:54:00] | praet: | mysql>create database mythconverg; |
| [21:54:00] | praet: | mysql>exit |
| [21:54:00] | praet: | $ mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg < mythtv_backup.sql |
| [21:54:00] | hackmiester[LT] (n=Jew@adsl-0-182-205.mob.bellsouth.net) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [21:54:00] | praet: | psofa im tring to get a clear way to do this |
| [21:54:00] | hackmiester (n=Jew@adsl-0-182-205.mob.bellsouth.net) Quit (No route to host) | |
| [21:55:00] | Slurpee`: | yo praet ;/ |
| [21:55:00] | psofa: | do i gave to delete the database first |
| [21:55:00] | psofa: | the trashed one |
| [21:55:00] | praet: | you could "drop database mythconverg;" if needed |
| [21:56:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Toronto-HSE-ppp3908094.sympatico.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:56:00] | hackmiester[LT] (n=Jew@adsl-220-164-70.mob.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:56:00] | praet: | but it would just get overwritten anyways |
| [21:58:00] | Slurpee`: | i get to mess with my mythtv tontie |
| [21:58:00] | Slurpee`: | still building the box |
| [21:58:00] | Slurpee`: | gota thermal goo my cpu and boot it up |
| [21:59:00] | praet: | psofa ok here we go: $ mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [22:00:00] | psofa: | i think i restored it |
| [22:00:00] | psofa: | lemme check |
| [22:00:00] | praet: | k |
| [22:01:00] | whyz: | do you guys know anything about the dnr settings of ivtv, to improve image quality? |
| [22:06:00] | praet: | hows it goin Slurpee` |
| [22:07:00] | Slurpee`: | working right now |
| [22:07:00] | Slurpee`: | going to work on my box tonite |
| [22:07:00] | praet: | whyz search the ivtv archives for help on that |
| [22:08:00] | Ediehow: | whyz: do you have an old ivtv or something? |
| [22:08:00] | praet: | Slurpee` keep us posted |
| [22:08:00] | whyz: | 0.4.0 |
| [22:08:00] | psofa: | what does the visible column in channel table do? |
| [22:09:00] | Hunterzilla is now known as hackmiester | |
| [22:10:00] | psofa: | anyone? |
| [22:10:00] | Ediehow (n=Edie@ip70-172-228-88.br.br.cox.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [22:10:00] | croppa (i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [22:14:00] | praet: | shows/hides the channel from the program guide (editable in mythtv-setup) |
| [22:14:00] | praet: | but does not remove it from xmltv or datadirect pull |
| [22:18:00] | praet: | psofa a quick way to renumber the channels is as follows: |
| [22:19:00] | praet: | Update channel SET channum=null; |
| [22:19:00] | praet: | alter table channel modify channum int not null AUTO_INCREMENT; |
| [22:19:00] | praet: | alter table channel modify channum VARCHAR(5) NOT NULL default=''; |
| [22:20:00] | Slurpee` (i=ask@DHCP-192-124.onshore.com) Quit () | |
| [22:20:00] | praet: | not that it wont sort by frequid, but on the order that they were entered into the db |
| [22:21:00] | praet: | if you need to rearrange the order by frequency for example, you'll have to create a new table to set the channum and freqid, create the chans then update back where the ids match |
| [22:22:00] | lars-ut-away is now known as lars-ut | |
| [22:23:00] | praet: | anyone using the ir blaster on the pvr-150? |
| [22:24:00] | d3ity: | praet, i just got a pvr 150 |
| [22:24:00] | d3ity: | dont happen to have the ir blaster yet though |
| [22:25:00] | praet: | oh yuo got the mce version then? with the rca audio in? |
| [22:25:00] | d3ity: | yeah |
| [22:25:00] | praet: | great. this card is doing great so far. |
| [22:26:00] | praet: | wow that sounded smart :) |
| [22:26:00] | d3ity: | praet: good to hear, sadly, i expected it to have a tv-out coax as well....so now i have to go back to my ATI nightmare as far as TV-Out goes |
| [22:26:00] | d3ity: | praet: what are you using for your tv-out? |
| [22:27:00] | d3ity: | i'm considering just buying another card to get rid of the radeon hell. |
| [22:28:00] | psofa: | praet, thanks for your help |
| [22:28:00] | psofa: | praet, but does the visible remove it from the livetv? |
| [22:29:00] | corpix64 (n=corpix@p54BDF942.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [22:29:00] | d3ity: | anyone have any suggestions on what card would be decent for tv-out? |
| [22:29:00] | darkdrgn2k: | is there a reason why when i use the infrared remote the screen goes blank for a second? |
| [22:30:00] | praet: | psofa yes it removes it from the livetv |
| [22:30:00] | psofa: | nice |
| [22:30:00] | d3ity: | praet: what hardware are you using for tv-out? |
| [22:30:00] | dberry (n=dberry@pknat1.passkey.com) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [22:30:00] | praet: | d3ity you could get the pvr350 which has coax out.. but it is more expensive then the 150 / video card tv out |
| [22:31:00] | d3ity: | praet: yeah, i know, i shoulda spent the money on it...but i cant really justify the purchase |
| [22:31:00] | praet: | ive got an nvida fx 5200 in one box, and just built anothe mx 4000 for another |
| [22:31:00] | d3ity: | praet: is the nvidia tv-out easy to setup? |
| [22:31:00] | mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-6-58.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit ("Ex-Chat") | |
| [22:31:00] | praet: | mx 4000 is perfect too, cheap as well. yes its easy to setup |
| [22:32:00] | darkdrgn2k: | I never got my ATI's tv out work in non-vesa mode |
| [22:32:00] | d3ity: | in all honesty, i've found it impossible for tv-out to work on my ATI card under windows |
| [22:32:00] | d3ity: | so...linux, with ATI's well...oh so amazing fglrx...i'm cynical |
| [22:32:00] | praet: | whats the card? |
| [22:32:00] | d3ity: | praet: 9600xt |
| [22:32:00] | praet: | damn thats a nice card to turn into a paperweight |
| [22:32:00] | d3ity: | praet: trust me, i know |
| [22:33:00] | d3ity: | but it just aint gonna do the job |
| [22:33:00] | d3ity: | praet: on top of that, its got a waterblock on it... |
| [22:33:00] | d3ity: | so...theres another 75 bucks i wasted |
| [22:33:00] | d3ity: | twas my aging gaming box |
| [22:33:00] | d3ity: | now its the bitorrent/fileserver with 800GB of storage...soon to be the mythtv box as well |
| [22:34:00] | praet: | do you have another box to use as a frontend? |
| [22:35:00] | d3ity: | praet: not particularly, do i need one? |
| [22:35:00] | d3ity: | honestly i pretty much dove headfirst into this idea.. |
| [22:37:00] | praet: | well you could throw another smaller machine with a tv out and pull the captures from your pvr machine on a lan |
| [22:37:00] | d3ity: | praet: its possible to do it all on the same box though right? |
| [22:37:00] | praet: | yeah |
| [22:38:00] | d3ity: | phew. |
| [22:38:00] | praet: | anyways how far did you get.. did you get drivers loaded? |
| [22:38:00] | d3ity: | i really dont feel like making another crazy looking case. |
| [22:38:00] | d3ity: | praet: the box i speak of is back in my dorm room |
| [22:38:00] | d3ity: | i just ordered the hardware and its sitting here waiting for the 7th for it to be installed. |
| [22:38:00] | d3ity: | for i am stuck at home. |
| [22:39:00] | praet: | aha |
| [22:39:00] | psofa: | btw i think its way better to use mysql query database instead of mythweb.At least for editing the channel list |
| [22:39:00] | d3ity: | ugh, my tv doesnt have svideo built in |
| [22:39:00] | psofa: | scart? |
| [22:39:00] | d3ity: | so that means i need that stupid little converter box that never works |
| [22:39:00] | praet: | you get a free s-vid to compsite converter with the card? |
| [22:39:00] | psofa: | does it have scart |
| [22:40:00] | psofa: | ? |
| [22:40:00] | d3ity: | praet: nope. |
| [22:40:00] | d3ity: | praet: not with the mx4000 i'm looking at |
| [22:40:00] | d3ity: | my ATI card has one of those little boxes. |
| [22:41:00] | d3ity: | god knows the thing is a piece of junk. |
| [22:41:00] | d3ity: | praet: also, i'd like to ask a stupid question... those RCA cables, you know the ones with the red, white, and yellow connector for audio and video.... is that all i need? or is this composite shit a diffrent kind of cable? |
| [22:42:00] | d3ity: | i know theres composite, and component...and it drives me crazy. |
| [22:42:00] | hackmiester: | d3ity: that is composite |
| [22:42:00] | praet: | yellow cable = composite |
| [22:42:00] | hackmiester: | d3ity: yellow is video |
| [22:42:00] | hackmiester: | composite video. |
| [22:42:00] | psofa: | if yout tv doesnt have svideo o doubt it has component |
| [22:42:00] | d3ity: | hackmiester ok, then my question is...why the hell doesnt it work with my ati card. |
| [22:42:00] | d3ity: | psofa: thats what i thought |
| [22:42:00] | hackmiester: | psofa: mine doesn't. |
| [22:42:00] | d3ity: | my ati card hates TV-Out for some reason... idk, i might go pick up a new cable or something |
| [22:43:00] | d3ity: | but the cables i have been using were just stolen from my DVD player. |
| [22:43:00] | praet: | d3ity try this, unplug your monitor, plug in the tvout to your tv and set your tv to that line in, then turn on your pc |
| [22:43:00] | hackmiester: | d3ity: what card? ati tv out doesn't work worth jack shit in Linux |
| [22:43:00] | psofa: | d3ity, i think you should invest in a cheap fx5200 |
| [22:43:00] | psofa: | to save you from the ati troubles |
| [22:43:00] | d3ity: | hackmiester, definatley know this |
| [22:43:00] | hackmiester: | heh |
| [22:43:00] | d3ity: | psofa: but then i have to buy another one of those retarted converter boxes. |
| [22:43:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hackmiester: it does work, only in VESA mode |
| [22:43:00] | hackmiester: | I'm currently wrestling with a Mach64 to get it working |
| [22:43:00] | hackmiester: | darkdrgn2k: if you're lucky... |
| [22:43:00] | praet: | d3ity if you see the bios popup on your tv youve got it right |
| [22:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | Whats a good card for TV OUT |
| [22:44:00] | darkdrgn2k: | hackmiester: mine worked in vesa.. though mytthv output was krap |
| [22:44:00] | d3ity: | praet: i'll give it a shot when i'm back at college. |
| [22:44:00] | d3ity: | praet: if not, i'll order one of these mx4000's and buy the stupid little box |
| [22:44:00] | d3ity: | i really really have grown to hate ATI and thier video cards and whatnot |
| [22:44:00] | praet: | someone posted a bit back the cheap converter |
| [22:45:00] | d3ity: | praet: hasnt someone made an agp card that has a friggin coax hookup on it? |
| [22:45:00] | praet: | http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CSV1RCA_LR.jpg |
| [22:45:00] | darkdrgn2k: | d3ity: me too.. all i have are ATIS but i think i might get a gforce next |
| [22:45:00] | d3ity: | just.... out. |
| [22:45:00] | d3ity: | praet: ok, that looks simple. |
| [22:45:00] | d3ity: | i'll take three |
| [22:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | d3ity: i gots 2 :-P |
| [22:46:00] | praet: | d3ity that is svideo to composite |
| [22:46:00] | praet: | yeah ive got an extra here as well |
| [22:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | d3ity: works well too |
| [22:46:00] | praet: | d3ity the pvr350 has coax out |
| [22:46:00] | d3ity: | praet: that would be perfect for my application with that mx4000 provided my ATI card takes a shit on me, like it always always does |
| [22:46:00] | d3ity: | praet: 20 bucks for the mx4000, or returning my 150 and spending another 100 bucks |
| [22:46:00] | darkdrgn2k: | I got a REAL MAGIC but i cant get the vidoe out to work :( |
| [22:46:00] | chickeneater (n=lastlee@unaffiliated/chickeneater) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:46:00] | d3ity: | i'll stick with the 20 dollar nvidia card. |
| [22:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | apperntly the nix driver will output the WHOLE screen not just mpeg |
| [22:47:00] | darkdrgn2k: | d3ity:what card is 20 bucks? |
| [22:47:00] | Ripped_Ca (n=mythtv@216-197-150-86.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:48:00] | dopester (n=dopester@user-0c8hs63.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:48:00] | kormoc: | darkdrgn2k, mx4000 was what he said |
| [22:48:00] | d3ity: | darkdrgn2k: mx4000 |
| [22:48:00] | d3ity: | 25–30 bucks |
| [22:48:00] | d3ity: | newegg. |
| [22:48:00] | darkdrgn2k: | any good? |
| [22:48:00] | d3ity: | darkdrgn2k: ask praet. he suggested it to me |
| [22:48:00] | praet: | the mx4000 is perfect so far |
| [22:49:00] | kormoc: | DarkBeer, it's good for just watching SD videos and what not |
| [22:49:00] | kormoc: | erm, that was to darkdrgn2k |
| [22:49:00] | d3ity: | for my purposes... as long as the picture shows up on my tv, i'll be happy |
| [22:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | praet: good quality??? |
| [22:49:00] | kormoc: | darkdrgn2k, and it wouldn't really be good for gaming nor HDTV |
| [22:49:00] | praet: | yeah its great for me (no hdtv channels tho) |
| [22:49:00] | d3ity: | yeah, if you wanted something that was good for hdtv, hack apart an xbox 360 |
| [22:49:00] | darkdrgn2k: | kormoc: myth tv |
| [22:50:00] | d3ity: | and write all the code for it |
| [22:50:00] | thechris (n=chatzill@24.216.178.42) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:50:00] | praet: | in time d3ity... |
| [22:50:00] | d3ity: | praet: when the price comes down from aproxamatley 389,000,000 dollars, i'll get two |
| [22:50:00] | thechris: | anyone here use the TV out on ATI cards? |
| [22:50:00] | d3ity: | thechris: funny, we were just discussing that. |
| [22:50:00] | thechris: | hmm |
| [22:50:00] | d3ity: | thechris: lemme guess, you're having difficulty? |
| [22:51:00] | thechris: | i don't know where to start |
| [22:51:00] | praet: | heh |
| [22:51:00] | hackmiester: | mach64 tvout is HELL |
| [22:51:00] | hackmiester: | but I need it |
| [22:51:00] | thechris: | i see there is a "atitvout" |
| [22:51:00] | thechris: | but i have a feeling it is not 64bit code |
| [22:51:00] | hackmiester: | apprently Xorg 6.9 will do it |
| [22:51:00] | hackmiester: | oh shit, 64 bit |
| [22:51:00] | thechris: | 6.9 you say? |
| [22:51:00] | d3ity: | thechris: well, first off, getting fglrx to work would probably be your first step, while you're doing that... i'm going to go copy war and peace backwards in a dark room. |
| [22:51:00] | hackmiester: | 6.9 or 7.0 |
| [22:51:00] | hackmiester: | they're the same |
| [22:52:00] | hackmiester: | thechris: but that's only mach64 that that applies to, I was speaking of my issue |
| [22:52:00] | thechris: | d3ity: not fglrx, this is old school radeon |
| [22:52:00] | d3ity: | hackmiester whats wrong with 64 bit ;) |
| [22:52:00] | hackmiester: | d3ity: that it's different |
| [22:52:00] | stoffel (n=sfr@p50815B3F.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit ("leaving") | |
| [22:52:00] | kormoc: | thechris, what driver are you using? |
| [22:52:00] | d3ity: | thechris: oh, shiny, probably easier. |
| [22:52:00] | thechris: | kormoc: "radeon". its not a new enough chipset for the fglx drivers |
| [22:52:00] | d3ity: | yeah. he's talkin crazy oldschool stuff |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | thechris, I beleive there is a seperate driver for the tv out on older ati cards... |
| [22:53:00] | d3ity: | thechris: what card? |
| [22:53:00] | d3ity: | kormoc: i googled for ati tv-out linux and found something |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | thechris, GATOS is the one I'm thinking about |
| [22:53:00] | thechris: | d3ity: Radeon AIW. original radeon without a number after |
| [22:53:00] | d3ity: | turned out to be no longer maintained. |
| [22:53:00] | d3ity: | thechris: daaaamn |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | http://gatos.sourceforge.net/supported_cards.php |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | All-in-Wonder Radeon (Radeon) |
| [22:53:00] | d3ity: | hrm |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | Should work fine with 4.1.0 or later drivers. |
| [22:54:00] | kormoc: | thechris, the radeon driver itself doesn't support tvout, GATOS is used for tv out |
| [22:54:00] | d3ity: | these gatos drivers |
| [22:54:00] | d3ity: | would they be of any use to me with my 9600xt? |
| [22:54:00] | thechris: | hmm seems: There is a separate, source only, branch with support for TV-out. It is maintained by Federico Ulivi. |
| [22:55:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, nope |
| [22:55:00] | praet: | ou are using fire gl ddx with myth no problems? |
| [22:55:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, for you, you need to use fglrx |
| [22:55:00] | d3ity: | kormoc: for 3d accel i know i need fglrx |
| [22:56:00] | kormoc: | thechris, I would really try gatos before working with smaller projects, lots of people use gatos |
| [22:56:00] | praet: | fglrx is opengl though right? |
| [22:56:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, and for tvout on newer ati's |
| [22:57:00] | d3ity: | kormoc: meh. |
| [22:57:00] | d3ity: | kormoc: i hate ATI. |
| [22:57:00] | ** d3ity says this as an x700 sits in his laptop ** | |
| [22:57:00] | thechris: | kormoc: it looks like GATOS has the ati.2 module in the kernel now. but it says it has an emphasis on "tv in" |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | thechris, http://gatos.sourceforge.net/theater_out.php |
| [22:59:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, indeed, ati does have it's sucky side |
| [23:00:00] | whyz (n=whyz@c892202a.n.bostream.se) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [23:00:00] | thechris: | man, my new wifi card ain't too bad. |
| [23:00:00] | thechris: | i can connect to a wifi network 2 houses over |
| [23:01:00] | thechris: | maybe i should tell them to secure that... |
| [23:01:00] | thechris: | or maybe i'll just change the password to the router... |
| [23:01:00] | kormoc: | and turn off the inet just to help them be secure |
| [23:02:00] | thechris: | kormoc: hmm. no they might not like that. |
| [23:02:00] | thechris: | though it would teach them a lesson |
| [23:03:00] | ** d3ity has a brilliant idea ** | |
| [23:03:00] | d3ity: | anyone happen to be interested in a cheap barebone athlon xp 2000+ system? |
| [23:03:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, how cheap? |
| [23:03:00] | d3ity: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . m=8742726665 |
| [23:03:00] | d3ity: | kormoc: ....cheap |
| [23:03:00] | d3ity: | as of right now, 10 bucks. |
| [23:04:00] | d3ity: | pretty much just trying to get rid of it |
| [23:04:00] | croppa (i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:04:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, how much for shipping? |
| [23:04:00] | kormoc: | haha |
| [23:04:00] | kormoc: | you're in reading. |
| [23:05:00] | shingoki (n=shingoki@84-51-139-127.iainwe264.adsl.metronet.co.uk) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [23:08:00] | Azariah (n=Azariah1@pcp04063008pcs.grey01.tn.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:08:00] | praet: | is there a com port on that mobo |
| [23:08:00] | eiggirC: | 12:08:06 up 8 days, 13:53, 3 users, load average: 5.08, 4.62, 3.09 |
| [23:08:00] | eiggirC: | eeeek! |
| [23:08:00] | eiggirC: | need to serialise my transcodes |
| [23:08:00] | d3ity: | kormoc: i go to penn state berks |
| [23:08:00] | d3ity: | thats based on my address there. |
| [23:08:00] | squeegy (n=mike@cpe-24-33-74-234.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:09:00] | d3ity: | i'm currently outside of allentown, where i actually live. |
| [23:12:00] | kormoc: | d3ity, heh, I have family in Lancaster who might be willing to go pick it up... |
| [23:13:00] | croppa (i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [23:15:00] | Azariah: | I have a mythbox that captures video, flags commercials then transcodes...I have a script that copies the comflag into the cutlist at night. I would like to automatically convert to divx or asf. I need to do this through cron as the system only has power/ tv in and lan connections. Anyone have any suggestions to tell nuvexport to convert all videos in a ascript? |
| [23:16:00] | croppa (i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:16:00] | Azariah: | I need to remove commercials |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | Azariah, might wanna look at all the command line options for nuvexport? |
| [23:26:00] | deego (n=user@12.166.244.34) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:27:00] | beavis (n=beavis@p54A7A7BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:27:00] | Azariah: | I looked at them I didn't see anything that would help |
| [23:27:00] | Azariah: | Nothing will select all that I found. |
| [23:28:00] | Azariah: | I tried even nuvexport --title=% |
| [23:33:00] | Cromz (n=ross@CPE-70-92-136-17.mn.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:39:00] | mishehu: | boom. |
| [23:39:00] | Cromz: | no boom.. boom is bad. |
| [23:40:00] | mishehu: | shaka |
| [23:40:00] | mishehu: | laka |
| [23:40:00] | mishehu: | boom boom is very good if you get it from a vietnamese girl |
| [23:40:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [23:40:00] | phoner: | not if your last in line |
| [23:40:00] | Cromz: | ew |
| [23:41:00] | mishehu: | some guys take anything |
| [23:41:00] | mishehu: | even sloppy 31st's |
| [23:41:00] | phoner: | gotta take what you can get |
| [23:41:00] | mishehu: | thankfully I don't have to settle for that |
| [23:41:00] | psofa: | is import from channels .conf working in mythtv-svn? |
| [23:42:00] | Cromz: | so like I got my virtualhost stuff working. so now I can go to mythweb.domain.com or my pics at gallery.domain.com or the normal site at domain.com :P w00ts. and mythweb is still protected so people can setup records for me. lol |
| [23:42:00] | Juski (n=Juski@spc1-salf1-5-0-cust8.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:42:00] | eiggirC: | I have all my mythtv recordings going to a three-disk raid mounted as /raid/mythtv, but the machine can only show disk space remaining for the root drive, a fourth 40 Gb with 10 Gb free. Will it correctly expire files off /raid ? |
| [23:43:00] | mishehu: | I don't think I follow |
| [23:43:00] | mishehu: | what type of raid array is this? raid5? |
| [23:43:00] | mishehu: | (I'd imagine) |
| [23:46:00] | lars-ut (n=me@70.103.228.158) Quit ("Of all the stratagems, to know when to quit is the best.") | |
| [23:46:00] | CanadaBoy (n=none@fctnnbsc16w-156034215473.nb.aliant.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:47:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: no – its a raid0 |
| [23:47:00] | wasabi_ (n=wasabi@207.55.180.150) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:47:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: three 40 Gb IDE drives |
| [23:47:00] | wasabi_: | Looking for a DVI capture card. |
| [23:48:00] | wasabi_: | Something that is not a tuner. |
| [23:48:00] | eiggirC: | and the fourth 40 Gb is my root drive |
| [23:48:00] | wasabi_: | Or a HDMP or whatever capture, too. |
| [23:48:00] | eiggirC: | wasabi_: tried google? Its not something I've ever used |
| [23:48:00] | wasabi_: | Yeah. Not having much luck. |
| [23:48:00] | wasabi_: | Hard to find "dvi in" |
| [23:48:00] | eiggirC: | do you mean HDTV ? |
| [23:49:00] | eiggirC: | or DVB-x where x is S, T, something or something else |
| [23:49:00] | wasabi_: | Well, yes, HDTV, but no tuner. |
| [23:49:00] | eiggirC: | S for Satellite, T for Terrestrial |
| [23:49:00] | wasabi_: | I have no need to tune. |
| [23:49:00] | _diZZ_ (n=kvirc@a212-246-87-160.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:49:00] | eiggirC: | hmmm – lurk a while and see who responds |
| [23:49:00] | wasabi_: | I have a satalite box which provides a DVI out. |
| [23:49:00] | mishehu: | eiggirC: I don't see why if it's raid0 why it wouldn't expire files correctly |
| [23:49:00] | Juski: | wasabi_: afaik there's no such thing as a DVI or HDMI capture device in the consumer arena |
| [23:50:00] | mishehu: | it acts as any other file system. |
| [23:50:00] | wasabi_: | Well, any suggestions on how this might work? |
| [23:50:00] | _diZZ_: | Hi there! |
| [23:50:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: cos if I go to "status" on my frontend, it shows 40 Gb with 10 Gb remaining, which is my root partition |
| [23:50:00] | _diZZ_: | Is there any ppc users around? |
| [23:50:00] | Juski: | the kind of data rate you'd get from such a capture card would be phenomenal! |
| [23:50:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: not the raid device |
| [23:50:00] | eiggirC: | dizz: not me – mine's coming in late january |
| [23:50:00] | mishehu: | eiggirC: hmm, I never paid attention to that, let me see what might says (I have no raid on my backend) |
| [23:50:00] | _diZZ_: | ok. |
| [23:51:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: I think maybe I should have used LVM to make one dirty big partition, with an initrd |
| [23:51:00] | _diZZ_: | I have annoying problem with mythmusic and mac mini (running Linux) |
| [23:51:00] | eiggirC: | is it debian ? |
| [23:51:00] | _diZZ_: | Yup.. |
| [23:51:00] | eiggirC: | debian is going through... issues, with mythtv |
| [23:52:00] | CanadaBoy (n=none@fctnnbsc16w-156034215473.nb.aliant.net) Quit () | |
| [23:52:00] | eiggirC: | the recommendation is to compile mythtv from source on debian |
| [23:52:00] | mishehu: | eiggirC: you running 0.18.1? |
| [23:52:00] | eiggirC: | thionite:~# mythfrontend --version |
| [23:52:00] | eiggirC: | 0.18.1.20050510–1 |
| [23:52:00] | Juski: | wasabi_: have a look here: http://www.videoclarity.com/html/CV-Hardware.html |
| [23:52:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: yes looks like it |
| [23:52:00] | psofa: | does import from channels.conf require latest dvbscan utils? |
| [23:53:00] | mishehu: | eiggirC: check your path settings in the configuration menus. when I look at the "System Status" -> "Machine Status", it shows me accurate informaiton for the partition that is used by mythtv. |
| [23:53:00] | _diZZ_: | I don't think that the problem is the distribution. If could be that the alsa driver for mac mini is still incomplete or there are some problems with the myht music and big endians. |
| [23:54:00] | wasabi_: | Okay so how do most of you do Dish TV? |
| [23:54:00] | wasabi_: | What comes out of hte satilite box? |
| [23:54:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: okay thanks – I must have missed a setting somewhjere |
| [23:54:00] | mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-6-58.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | wasabi_: for HDTV most people use PCI HDTV tuners or firewire when possible (not often because providers often encrypt HD content over firewire, thereby disabling capture) |
| [23:55:00] | wasabi_: | So the PCI HDTV tuners can "tune into" whatever hte satilite outputs? |
| [23:55:00] | mishehu: | on an athlon xp 3200+, I have a pvr250 and run both an backend and a front end. hd and dvd drive are pata, and are on separate channels. whenever the backend is recording something, if I play a dvd, I lose audio "carrier". has anybody else experienced this? |
| [23:55:00] | wasabi_: | Sort of like how things on analog used to be on channel 3. ;0 |
| [23:57:00] | Juski: | no, wasabi_ I don't think so |
| [23:57:00] | psofa: | erm how can i use dvbtune? |
| [23:57:00] | wasabi_: | So... how do they do what you said? |
| [23:57:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: watch the load average while it works |
| [23:57:00] | eiggirC: | could be underpowered? |
| [23:57:00] | eiggirC: | mishehu: got DMA turned on? |
| [23:58:00] | eiggirC: | I've got no DVD drive, but does it do digital audio or a CD-like sound cable? |
| [23:59:00] | Juski: | wasabi_: as far as I know you can only use the PCI HDTV tuners to grab over the air signals, not satellite |
| [23:59:00] | wasabi_: | So... back to the original question. ;) |
| [23:59:00] | wasabi_: | <wasabi_> Okay so how do most of you do Dish TV? |
| [23:59:00] | Azariah (n=Azariah1@pcp04063008pcs.grey01.tn.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
IRC Logs collected by
BeirdoBot.
Please use the above link to report any bugs.
