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Monday, December 26th, 2005, 00:02 UTC
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[00:13:00] pierre_: hello there, merry Xmas
[00:13:00] sphing: same
[00:14:00] pierre_: can anybody tell me why does my distro try to install mysql as a dependency of mythtv?
[00:14:00] pierre_: is it a bug or is it really required somewhere?
[00:14:00] laga: mythtv stores its configuration in a mysql database
[00:14:00] NightBird: because mythtv uses mysql to store information
[00:15:00] pierre_: uh, really it does?
[00:15:00] pierre_: maybe i misunderstood what is mythtv good for
[00:16:00] pierre_: i just want to watch tv under linux using my tv card
[00:16:00] laga: well, use tvtime then :)
[00:16:00] pierre_: what extra functionality does mythtv offer that it needs a serious datavase?
[00:16:00] pierre_: *database
[00:17:00] GreyFoxx: myth does a lot more than just basic tv watching
[00:18:00] GreyFoxx: it's a pvr, pause live tv, schedule recordings, plugins for playing non recorded content, weather, photo gallery, mp3/music player, voip phone, web browser, and a lot more
[00:18:00] sphing: http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythFeatures
[00:19:00] GreyFoxx: It's also possible to set it to up to stream livetv or recorded stuff to other machines
[00:19:00] pierre_: :) uh, seems like an operating system on its own :)
[00:19:00] pierre_: but thanks anyway
[00:19:00] pierre_: i'll check the features to find out if it is worth installing the database
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[00:22:00] GreyFoxx: Unless you are really low on resources mysql is not much of a requirement
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[00:35:00] corpix: hi
[00:37:00] corpix: how to set up lirc for mythtv, i got lirc working (lirc_serial), and put a lircrc to ~/.mythtv/lircrc, but remote doesnt work in mythtv
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[00:46:00] Santzes_: Is lircd running? What if you run irw and press buttons of remote control
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[00:50:00] psofa: cant livetv use the actual dvb-s mpeg2 stream instead of transcoding it?
[00:52:00] psofa: anyone around?
[00:52:00] psofa: thats a rather simple question
[00:53:00] jams: of course it can
[00:53:00] psofa: how
[00:54:00] GreyFoxx: psofa: mpeg2 sources do not get transcoded during livetv
[00:54:00] psofa: oh sorry didnt know that
[00:54:00] GreyFoxx: and they only get transcoded after if you tell myth to do that
[00:55:00] psofa: thanks a lot
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[00:56:00] psofa: and if thats the case
[00:56:00] psofa: why theres 90% cpu usage
[00:56:00] psofa: ?
[00:56:00] GreyFoxx: no idea
[00:57:00] psofa: crap
[00:57:00] GreyFoxx: not much cpu for playback? Chewing a lot of CPU grabbing EIT data ?
[00:57:00] psofa: the playback is choppy
[00:57:00] psofa: mythtv cant even play sound
[00:57:00] psofa: it plays but pauses
[00:58:00] psofa: im pretty sure it tries to transcode
[00:58:00] GreyFoxx: no, it doesn't
[00:59:00] psofa: then why
[00:59:00] psofa: in hardware dvb encoders ->livetv
[01:00:00] psofa: it says that it will encode to mpeg4
[01:00:00] psofa: maybe its crapped out bcause previously i had a simple v4l tuner
[01:00:00] psofa: ?
[01:02:00] GreyFoxx: FYI a dvb card isn't an encoder, it's already mpeg2 when transmitted
[01:02:00] GreyFoxx: Though I know it calls it an "encoder"
[01:02:00] GreyFoxx: And no, I don't think haven't it in there previously as the wrong card would affect it
[01:02:00] psofa: in logs
[01:02:00] psofa: im filled with audio buffer oveflow
[01:02:00] psofa: s
[01:02:00] psofa: prebuffering pauses
[01:02:00] psofa: etc
[01:03:00] psofa: it plays fine in mplayer
[01:03:00] psofa: and vdr
[01:06:00] GreyFoxx: I don't know what the problem is, I just know what it isn't. And it isn't transcoding it while you try to watch livetv :)_
[01:06:00] psofa: any ideas
[01:06:00] psofa: on how i can see what mythtv is doing?
[01:07:00] GreyFoxx: run mythfrontend with verbose modes enabled. It's a LOT of stuff so log it to a file
[01:07:00] Hoxzer: psofa: just run mythbackend in the terminal and look
[01:07:00] psofa: kk
[01:07:00] GreyFoxx: mythfrontend -v all
[01:07:00] GreyFoxx: maybe with a -l logfile
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[01:10:00] psofa: 2005-12–26 03:09:38.047 Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!
[01:10:00] psofa: im full of these
[01:10:00] psofa: *theese
[01:10:00] psofa: or is it these
[01:10:00] psofa: xD
[01:11:00] GreyFoxx: I think there are some settings for increasng the audio buffering
[01:11:00] GreyFoxx: under playback maybe
[01:11:00] psofa: extra audio buffering is on
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[01:26:00] psofa: can i disable the opengl thing in livetv?
[01:26:00] psofa: to make sure its not that
[01:27:00] GreyFoxx: What version of myth ?
[01:27:00] psofa: the stable one
[01:27:00] GreyFoxx: so the answer is you don't know ?:)
[01:27:00] GreyFoxx: 0.18.x ?
[01:27:00] psofa: yes
[01:27:00] psofa: :D
[01:28:00] GreyFoxx: the only way to disable it would be to recompile without the ogl vsync
[01:28:00] psofa: omg
[01:28:00] GreyFoxx: with svn it's a menu toggle
[01:28:00] psofa: damn
[01:28:00] psofa: but the problem is the sound isnt it?
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[01:29:00] GreyFoxx: If I knew what the problem was I would ha ve told you
[01:30:00] GreyFoxx: What kind of video card are you outputting on ?
[01:30:00] psofa: an nvidia card
[01:30:00] psofa: fx5200
[01:31:00] GreyFoxx: What version of the nvidia drivers ?
[01:31:00] psofa: 8174
[01:31:00] GreyFoxx: The OpenGL VSync could easily be your problem
[01:31:00] psofa: hm
[01:31:00] psofa: yes
[01:32:00] GreyFoxx: downgrade to 7676
[01:32:00] psofa: the logs say sth about vblank not there
[01:32:00] psofa: of mythfrontend
[01:32:00] GreyFoxx: I haven't tested the 8178 yet to see if it has the same problem with ogl vsync
[01:32:00] psofa: so you have seen the problem in action?
[01:32:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[01:32:00] psofa: and it produces these results?
[01:32:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[01:33:00] psofa: yee
[01:33:00] psofa: i hope its just that
[01:33:00] GreyFoxx: I posted it to the mailing list warning people to avoid 8174 with ogle vsync
[01:33:00] psofa: :D
[01:33:00] psofa: thanks a lot
[01:33:00] GreyFoxx: I spent 24 hours searching the code tracking it down
[01:33:00] psofa: omg
[01:34:00] GreyFoxx: obviously not a solid 24 hours, but it was several hours and 20 or so recompiles :)
[01:34:00] psofa: i know what you mean
[01:35:00] psofa: it was a time loosing 24 hours
[01:36:00] psofa: emerging 7676
[01:39:00] psofa: crossing fingers
[01:40:00] psofa: success
[01:40:00] psofa: :DD
[01:40:00] psofa: thanks a lot
[01:42:00] psofa: btw is there a channel list
[01:42:00] psofa: i can choose from during livetv?
[01:42:00] psofa: ill check the docs first
[01:42:00] psofa: :D
[01:43:00] GreyFoxx: psofa: You can bring up the EPG and scroll through the channels and change to the one you want
[01:43:00] GreyFoxx: otherwise just type in the channel you want and hit enter
[01:44:00] GreyFoxx: or set browse mode and you can scroll through the other channels/shows without changting the channel and then hit enter when you get what you want
[01:47:00] psofa: btw i have another prob
[01:47:00] psofa: when the channel is anavailable
[01:47:00] psofa: that is encrypted
[01:47:00] psofa: or whatever other reason
[01:47:00] psofa: myth hangs
[01:48:00] psofa: i supposed its fixed in svn
[01:48:00] psofa: but is there anyway to fix that in 018
[01:48:00] psofa: ?
[01:48:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[01:48:00] psofa: how?
[01:48:00] psofa: delete the channel :P
[01:48:00] GreyFoxx: pretty much :)
[01:49:00] psofa: there are 500 channs
[01:49:00] psofa: and i dont know them
[01:49:00] psofa: id like to browse them
[01:49:00] psofa: so that would be painfull
[01:49:00] psofa: any other way?
[01:49:00] GreyFoxx: I doubt it
[01:49:00] psofa: if i upgraded to svn
[01:49:00] GreyFoxx: but then I haven't used 0.18 since the day after it came out, so I don't remember that far back
[01:50:00] psofa: would i need to reconf the database
[01:50:00] psofa: ?
[01:50:00] GreyFoxx: no, myth will update the database automatically
[01:50:00] GreyFoxx: just make sure you do a backup of the database "just in case"you want to go back
[01:50:00] psofa: so most of my options will be there?
[01:51:00] GreyFoxx: all of it will be
[01:51:00] psofa: is svn stable enough?
[01:51:00] GreyFoxx: assuming tnhe menu option still exists
[01:51:00] psofa: i mean as stable as it can be
[01:51:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug* It's all I use
[01:51:00] psofa: :D
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[01:52:00] psofa: ill search for an ebuild
[01:52:00] psofa: bcause im lazy
[01:52:00] psofa: and i like to keep the system tidy
[01:52:00] psofa: but mostly bcause im lazy
[01:52:00] psofa: :P
[01:52:00] psofa: thanks a lot greyfox
[01:54:00] psofa: cu
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[02:20:00] t00m: morning
[02:21:00] Beirdo: Merry Christmas!
[02:21:00] Beirdo: heh
[02:22:00] Beirdo: silly Aussies who think it's Boxing Day already :)
[02:22:00] Beirdo: morning, t00m
[02:23:00] t00m: it is..
[02:24:00] Beirdo: 9:30pm, Christmas Day...
[02:24:00] Beirdo: here at the centre of the universe (Toronto)
[02:24:00] Beirdo: (Canadians will get that)
[02:24:00] t00m: hehe
[02:25:00] t00m: yeah, lets all use nettime
[02:25:00] Beirdo: Only time at Eastern Timezone matters to me :) hehe
[02:25:00] Beirdo: well, that and Atlantic
[02:26:00] Beirdo: I'm just being silly
[02:26:00] t00m: i wonder how it would be, if earth would rotate 12 times faster
[02:28:00] Beirdo: I'd weigh less
[02:28:00] t00m: :>
[02:28:00] Beirdo: did ya know that timezones were invented in Toronto?
[02:29:00] Beirdo: about 2 blocks from where I work there's a plaque on a building claiming that's where it was invented
[02:29:00] Beirdo: Sir Sandford Fleming? I can't remember anymore
[02:29:00] Beirdo: my history sucketh
[02:29:00] t00m: fleming sounds familiar
[02:30:00] Beirdo: he worked in that building at the time, apparently
[02:30:00] Beirdo: heh
[02:30:00] Beirdo: so those of you who hate Daylight Savings Time... You *can* blame Canada this time
[02:30:00] Krazylegz: At the 'time'. Good one. ;-)
[02:31:00] Beirdo: he was a strong proponent of DST too, IIRC
[02:31:00] t00m: aha
[02:31:00] t00m: The first time zone in the world was established by British railways on December 1, 1847—Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) being hand carried on chronometers.
[02:31:00] evilbuny: Beirdo: actually ben franklin pushed DST
[02:32:00] Beirdo: he was a railroad dude.
[02:32:00] Beirdo: t00m, yes, but Fleming invented them :)
[02:32:00] t00m: fleming was the one, who proposed it worldwide
[02:32:00] Beirdo: it's just we took time to do it, and the Brits beat us to it
[02:32:00] t00m: 19 years later
[02:32:00] Beirdo: or he grabbed the glory
[02:32:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:32:00] Beirdo: whatever
[02:33:00] evilbuny: i thought canadians just followed the yanks
[02:33:00] Beirdo: that's always possible
[02:33:00] Beirdo: um, no
[02:33:00] Beirdo: we innovate, the US stagnates
[02:33:00] evilbuny: they seemed to jump on the dst change pretty quick :)
[02:33:00] Beirdo: that's why the US is the only country NOT using metric yet
[02:33:00] Beirdo: sorry, Brunei isn't either
[02:33:00] evilbuny: i loath metrically impaired
[02:33:00] Beirdo: but they don't count much
[02:34:00] Beirdo: just frigging rich, but tiny
[02:34:00] evilbuny: i thought the US was the last, and everyone else has finally converted
[02:34:00] Beirdo: Brunei may have now.
[02:34:00] Beirdo: tiny sultanate down near Indonesia, BTW
[02:34:00] ** evilbuny has no idea why the yanks like to be challenged by non-metric measurements **
[02:34:00] evilbuny: metric is so easy cause it's base 10
[02:34:00] Beirdo: yeah
[02:35:00] Beirdo: scientists and engineers LOVE metric
[02:35:00] t00m: :)
[02:35:00] evilbuny: so do scuba divers :)
[02:35:00] Beirdo: it's the old yokels that can't deal with it
[02:35:00] evilbuny: every 10m is about 1 ata of pressure :)
[02:35:00] Beirdo: give it another generation or two
[02:35:00] evilbuny: Beirdo: of bushes in the white house?
[02:35:00] Beirdo: they'd rather think of a 0.38" rather than a 9mm
[02:35:00] t00m: they'll never change
[02:36:00] Beirdo: evilbuny: hehe, like that will happen... they'll all get hunted down first
[02:36:00] t00m: unless they get run over by someone
[02:36:00] evilbuny: Beirdo: we can live in hope
[02:36:00] Beirdo: or take too much drugs & booze
[02:37:00] Beirdo: then we'll get another family of crazy politicians
[02:37:00] Beirdo: we can't win
[02:37:00] evilbuny: Beirdo: know much about the hotplug changes between 0.4.0 and 0.4.1 in ivtv drivers? :)
[02:37:00] Beirdo: nope
[02:37:00] Beirdo: I still use 0.2.0
[02:37:00] Beirdo: heh
[02:37:00] evilbuny: i went back to 0.3.8
[02:37:00] evilbuny: 0.4.0 kept loosing sound
[02:37:00] evilbuny: and i got sick of reloading the ivtv driver and/or rebooting
[02:38:00] Beirdo: don't blame you for that
[02:38:00] evilbuny: i couldn't make 0.4.1 under ubuntu
[02:38:00] evilbuny: since debian/ubuntu made hotplug redundant with udev
[02:38:00] Beirdo: hey there, Mr. Shintoist... merry f'ing Christmas...
[02:38:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:38:00] Beirdo: I just can't get that song outta my head
[02:39:00] Beirdo: South Park is evil!
[02:39:00] Beirdo: heh
[02:40:00] evilbuny: heh
[02:40:00] Beirdo: upgrading my laptop from whorey to breezy right now
[02:40:00] evilbuny: heh
[02:40:00] Beirdo: so tired of firefox eating memory, I'm just hoping breezy does a bit better at controlling firefox's naughtiness
[02:41:00] evilbuny: opera does a better job of it
[02:41:00] Beirdo: 599 packages downloaded... 53%
[02:41:00] Beirdo: eeek
[02:41:00] evilbuny: i'm getting jack of firefox crap
[02:41:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.phaze.org/xmas/
[02:41:00] Beirdo: my main use for the laptop is to play a java game
[02:42:00] evilbuny: heh
[02:42:00] GreyFoxx: Merry F'in XMas
[02:42:00] evilbuny: anyways gotta go
[02:42:00] Beirdo: but for once, java is actually BETTER than firefox
[02:42:00] Beirdo: unbelievable, I know
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[02:43:00] Beirdo: oh no... Tennessee? :)
[02:43:00] \Grooby\_: merry xmas all
[02:43:00] Beirdo: bah humbug
[02:43:00] Beirdo: ;)
[02:43:00] Azariah: What about tennessee?
[02:43:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:43:00] Beirdo: just kidding
[02:43:00] Beirdo: how's it goin down there?
[02:44:00] Azariah: raining.
[02:44:00] Beirdo: how sucky
[02:44:00] Beirdo: rained all day here too
[02:44:00] Beirdo: (Toronto)
[02:44:00] Azariah: stupid global worming...I want snow.
[02:44:00] Beirdo: and started snowing about half an hour ago
[02:44:00] Azariah: warming...
[02:45:00] Beirdo: it's all the hot air...
[02:45:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:45:00] Beirdo: I blame the politicians.. they produce too much hot air
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[02:45:00] t00m: here it's 22 and it's supposed to be 35
[02:45:00] Azariah: I need to know how to automatically cut/transcode video from myth. I have a php file that will encode into divx. I have myth set to flag commercials...How do I go from flagging commercials to put them into a cutlist automatically?
[02:45:00] t00m: celcius
[02:46:00] Beirdo: t00m, I wish it were 22.
[02:46:00] Beirdo: more like -2
[02:46:00] Beirdo: Azariah, you can have it mark them, but you may want to check that the markings are where you want them consistantly before trusting it to auto-cut
[02:48:00] Azariah: I need to automatically do it...I have a older p3 and do not watch anything on it everything is across the lan/over the internet.. I know it will not be perfect but the automatic cut will do .
[02:48:00] Beirdo: well, there's a setting to automatically skip commercials, that plus transcoding might do it, not sure
[02:49:00] Azariah: i tried "mythcommflag --gencutlist" but I get "No program data exists for channel"
[02:49:00] Beirdo: hmm
[02:49:00] Beirdo: you have run mythfilldatabase?
[02:49:00] Azariah: I have a cool ripmytharchive.php file that takes the file converts to mpeg and divx then deletes the orginal file and database entry.
[02:49:00] Beirdo: although not sure why it would require it to flag commercials
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[02:50:00] Azariah: Yes...I BUt it has commercials.
[02:50:00] Azariah: mythfilldatabase has ran and runs every 3 days....I have program data and things are being recorded.
[02:51:00] Azariah: Using knoppmyth....I was using fedora but switched.
[02:51:00] Beirdo: not sure what to suggest
[02:51:00] Azariah: Do you cut commercials?
[02:52:00] Beirdo: not automatically
[02:52:00] Azariah: but manually?
[02:52:00] Azariah: Hit z then manually cut them....Is that not time consuming?
[02:52:00] Beirdo: yeah, I import the cutlist in the editor, fiddle the cutpoints, then run nuvexport to export to archive
[02:52:00] Beirdo: it's a bit time consuming, but it works great
[02:53:00] Beirdo: there are likely settings that will help, but honestly, I don't fiddle with them
[02:54:00] Beirdo: what area of TN you at?
[02:54:00] Azariah: Eastern most corner.
[02:55:00] Beirdo: ah. the only part I haven't been to yet :)
[02:55:00] Beirdo: up near Knoxville.. cool
[02:55:00] Azariah: We are not as backwards as some think...I teach at a cisco academy(high school level).
[02:55:00] Beirdo: heh
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[02:55:00] Beirdo: I have a friend who lives near Jackson, TN
[02:55:00] Azariah: Unicoi
[02:55:00] Beirdo: we did Nashville, Memphis, and of course... Lynchburg.. in June
[02:56:00] Beirdo: nice area, dunno that I'd wanna live there, but nice
[02:56:00] Azariah: I like it...
[02:56:00] Beirdo: I'm sure you do.
[02:56:00] Beirdo: ;)
[02:57:00] Beirdo: it's nice
[02:57:00] Azariah: Anyone have a suggestion for moving the commflag list to the cut list? I hate watching commercials when I stream this to work.
[02:57:00] Beirdo: hit e to bring up the editor
[02:57:00] Beirdo: then z
[02:57:00] Beirdo: :)
[02:59:00] Azariah: I don't even have a monitor on the pc....It is laying on its side behind a entertainment system.
[02:59:00] Beirdo: hmmm
[02:59:00] Beirdo: makes it harder
[02:59:00] Beirdo: I'm sure there's a way to do it
[03:00:00] Beirdo: Captain_Murdoch may be able to help if the turkey didn't put him to sleep
[03:00:00] Azariah: Is he here?
[03:00:00] Beirdo: he's in the channel
[03:01:00] Azariah: Should I dcc him?
[03:01:00] GreyFoxx: no
[03:01:00] GreyFoxx: uninvited DCC's are a netiquette nono
[03:01:00] Beirdo: if he's there and is up to helping, he'll help
[03:01:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
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[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: he'll be here eventually.... assuming he's not away on vacation
[03:04:00] Beirdo: wow, another one from TN
[03:04:00] alc6379: okay, I'm not recording anything currently. Any suggestions as to why MythTV would say "MythTV is using all available inputs for recording"?
[03:04:00] Beirdo: we're being invaded :)
[03:04:00] alc6379: haha
[03:05:00] Beirdo: ummm, your backend may need restarting... if you aren't recording anything, and not watching live TV
[03:05:00] Beirdo: I haven't seen that happen in ages though
[03:05:00] alc6379: let me try that really quick
[03:05:00] Beirdo: like almost 2 years
[03:05:00] alc6379: hmm
[03:06:00] Beirdo: can't hurt to restart the backend if you aren't recording currently
[03:06:00] alc6379: well, will you look at that
[03:07:00] alc6379: that did it-- I had changed my TV tuner to a Hauppage PVR150, and I guess that's all I needed
[03:07:00] Beirdo: ahhh
[03:08:00] Beirdo: after rerunning the setup, you definitely will need to restart the backend
[03:08:00] alc6379: I see
[03:08:00] alc6379: any of you cats running a PVR 150?
[03:08:00] Beirdo: assuming you change anything of course
[03:08:00] Beirdo: I use 3 PVR250
[03:08:00] alc6379: ...apparently the 150's different from the 250
[03:08:00] Beirdo: a bit
[03:10:00] ** Beirdo patiently waits for the apt-get dist-upgrade to finish downloading **
[03:10:00] alc6379: Now I guess I'm off to figure out sound. I'm not sure if that's a mythtv issue, or just a system configuration issue
[03:10:00] Beirdo: fun
[03:10:00] ** t00m is desperate **
[03:11:00] Beirdo: t00m, whazzup?
[03:11:00] t00m: qt doesn't build
[03:11:00] Beirdo: oh good luck
[03:11:00] Beirdo: qt is a beotch to compile
[03:11:00] t00m: i thought it's distccs fault, so i tried without. still breaks
[03:12:00] t00m: i never had probs with it
[03:12:00] Beirdo: Fetched 580MB in 1h3m13s (153kB/s)
[03:12:00] Beirdo: eek
[03:13:00] t00m: seems to be assembler error: {standard input}:15041: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
[03:13:00] Beirdo: now time to actually upgrade...
[03:13:00] t00m: oh dear..
[03:14:00] t00m: why does mythtv need qt anyway?
[03:14:00] Beirdo: because it uses qt!
[03:14:00] Beirdo: hehe
[03:14:00] Beirdo: extensively
[03:15:00] alc6379: heh
[03:15:00] t00m: oh..
[03:15:00] t00m: that's why it's so slow..
[03:15:00] Beirdo: wouldn't have been my first choice, but I didn't write it, and it does work
[03:16:00] Beirdo: but then again, I've never been one to write GUI stuff
[03:17:00] Beirdo: watching a hoary->breezy upgrade is always such fun
[03:19:00] t00m: wow.. g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)
[03:20:00] Beirdo: hehe
[03:20:00] Beirdo: yikes
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[03:44:00] alc6379: is there a specific ivtv channel that you guys are aware of?
[03:45:00] alc6379: nm, #ivtv-dev sounds promising
[03:45:00] \Grooby\_: hehehe
[03:50:00] alc6379: well, nvm there
[03:50:00] alc6379: turns out that I was just plugging the speakers into the wrong jack!
[03:57:00] t00m: nice work :)
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[03:58:00] alc6379: yeah, how the heck do you wire up those front audio jacks, anyways?
[03:58:00] alc6379: that was the problem-- I wired them up, and then I could _only_ use them
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[04:10:00] emes: i'm moving my mythbackend to a new server. how can I copy the list of recorded programs?
[04:11:00] sphing: mysqldump
[04:12:00] sphing: dump the db into a file and then bring it into the new server
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[04:45:00] t00m: yay
[04:45:00] t00m: i got it compiling
[04:45:00] t00m: stupid qt
[04:45:00] t00m: goes crazy with make -j5
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[04:46:00] t00m: aeh
[04:46:00] t00m: cc
[04:46:00] t00m: whatever..
[04:46:00] Tanthrix: Anyone here have problems with lirc periodically dropping out? Seems as at least once a day for a period of a few minutes my remote is dead.
[04:46:00] t00m: nope
[04:46:00] Tanthrix: Just happened and I thought I would pop in to see if anyone else has had the same problem.
[04:47:00] t00m: my remote seems to be active when i'm not there
[04:47:00] alc6379: make -j5? How many procs we running?
[04:47:00] t00m: or it's my flatmates...
[04:48:00] t00m: alc6379: i had distcc running, so it was 2. but then i switched off distcc and forgot to decrease down to 2
[04:48:00] alc6379: ahhh
[04:48:00] t00m: quite stupid though
[04:48:00] t00m: i mean, what's the problem in making -j5 on 1 cpu?
[04:49:00] sphing: qt doesnt compile
[04:49:00] sphing: thats the problem :)
[04:49:00] t00m: right, but why?
[04:49:00] sphing: i really couldn't begin to speculate
[04:49:00] t00m: me neither :)
[04:50:00] alc6379: probably to many concurrent processes running
[04:50:00] alc6379: *too many
[04:50:00] t00m: next time something doesn't build, i'll try -j3 with distcc
[04:51:00] t00m: i had that several times now that something broke while using distcc
[04:51:00] t00m: i always assumed, that it's because one is amd and the other one is p3
[04:52:00] alc6379: shouldn't be an issue
[04:52:00] t00m: which shouldn't be a problem, of course
[04:52:00] sphing: t00m: yea i've read building over diff archs causes issues unless handled carefully
[04:52:00] t00m: i also assumed that it shouldn't be an issue building -j5..
[04:53:00] ** sphing heads to bed **
[04:53:00] t00m: it's the same version of gcc. i hope that's more important
[04:53:00] t00m: gn8
[04:54:00] ** t00m just had lunch.. hmmm **
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[04:57:00] t00m: excellent.. there goes the next one: distcc[23946] ERROR: compile (null) on localhost failed
[04:57:00] t00m: now it's 'arts'
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[04:58:00] alc6379: gee whiz.
[04:58:00] alc6379: this gentoo?
[04:58:00] t00m: yes..
[04:58:00] Cardoe: t00m: why are you doing stupid things/
[04:58:00] t00m: i don't
[04:58:00] Cardoe: you are.
[04:58:00] t00m: what's wrong with distcc?
[04:59:00] alc6379: I ended up turning distccd off, it never worked for me
[04:59:00] Cardoe: configure your distcc correctly.
[04:59:00] Cardoe: second thing
[04:59:00] Cardoe: arts... utter waste of time
[04:59:00] Cardoe: turn that shit off
[04:59:00] Krazylegz: distcc rocks.
[04:59:00] Krazylegz: "Adds support for aRts: the KDE sound daemon" ?!?!
[04:59:00] t00m: mythtv seems to depend on it
[05:00:00] Cardoe: t00m: because you turned the damn USE flag on
[05:00:00] Cardoe: Krazylegz: yes
[05:00:00] t00m: let me check..
[05:00:00] Cardoe: Krazylegz: your point
[05:00:00] t00m: hm
[05:00:00] t00m: let's say: i forgot to turn it off
[05:00:00] Cardoe: no
[05:00:00] Cardoe: it's off by default.
[05:00:00] t00m: no
[05:01:00] Cardoe: yes it is
[05:01:00] t00m: well
[05:01:00] Cardoe: don't argue
[05:01:00] t00m: it's not in make.conf
[05:02:00] Cardoe: you pulled in a KDE lib
[05:02:00] t00m: and that's the only file i chang
[05:02:00] t00m: and i have -kde
[05:02:00] alc6379: qt doesn't depend on it?
[05:02:00] Cardoe: no
[05:02:00] Cardoe: so add -arts
[05:02:00] t00m: i did
[05:03:00] t00m: just trying to figure out, where it was added
[05:03:00] Krazylegz: Cardoe: Just funny that people add it.
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[05:07:00] t00m: ok, what's wrong with the distcc configuration?
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[05:12:00] alc6379: there's usually more errors before that say what might have done it
[05:12:00] alc6379: usually they're not very helpful, though
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[05:16:00] alc6379: blah, logged out :S
[05:18:00] t00m: :)
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[05:29:00] redline-: merry christmas day after!
[05:30:00] redline-: riddle me this batman, I want a nice sound card for my myth box which one should I go after?
[05:30:00] t00m: sb64
[05:32:00] Nothingman: hi, all
[05:32:00] redline-: heya
[05:32:00] jalex: soundblaster 16 ISA
[05:33:00] redline-: brilliant!
[05:33:00] Nothingman: been having a strange problem with my sound; every time it records something, even LiveTV, I hear it through the speakers even when nothing's running, twice with LiveTV
[05:33:00] Nothingman: the only way to stop it is to kill the PCM switch on the mixer
[05:34:00] redline-: what version of myth yea using?
[05:34:00] Nothingman: but that, of course, interferes with anything else I want to do regarding sound
[05:34:00] Nothingman: 18.1
[05:35:00] redline-: and the driver for your tv card? is it ivtv?
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[05:36:00] Nothingman: bttb
[05:36:00] Nothingman: *bttv*
[05:36:00] redline-: could be the bttv driver, possible not releasing when its supposed to
[05:37:00] Nothingman: but why would it come out the PCM?
[05:37:00] redline-: 18.1 is pretty stable and I would doubt it is myth
[05:37:00] redline-: PCM controls all sound as far as I know it the master volume of sorts
[05:38:00] redline-: it sounds to me (no pun intended) as if the audio/visual driver is not releasing correctly
[05:38:00] Nothingman: the sound from the TV tuner is routed through the sound card's 'in' port
[05:39:00] Nothingman: I still get all sound out of my second set of speakers
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[05:40:00] redline-: do you get sound with the cable disconnected from the sound card?
[05:40:00] Nothingman: afraid to do it atm with it recording something
[05:41:00] Nothingman: another problem I have is no thumbnails for video or images
[05:41:00] Nothingman: in fact, images just plain don't show
[05:41:00] Nothingman: video does, but that's through xine
[05:41:00] redline-: permission issue?
[05:42:00] redline-: check the dir where your video is installed and make sure you are part of the group?
[05:42:00] redline-: btw these are all guess's
[05:43:00] Nothingman: just changed perms to mythtv.mythtv
[05:43:00] Nothingman: was nothingman.nothingman
[05:43:00] Nothingman: still nothing
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[05:44:00] sPiN: w000t! just got my pvr 150 installed, trying to set it up now :)
[05:44:00] Nothingman: and why aren't there special settings for bttv users, anyhow?
[05:45:00] redline-: what are the file permissions ? 755?
[05:45:00] Nothingman: I would swear the card has the ability to return MPEG straight-up
[05:45:00] redline-: good luck sPIN
[05:45:00] Nothingman: this might help: UIImageType::LoadImage() – Cannot find image: No Cover
[05:45:00] Nothingman: perms are 666
[05:46:00] Nothingman: rwxrwxrwx == 666, right?
[05:46:00] redline-: 777
[05:46:00] Nothingman: OK
[05:47:00] Nothingman: but still, I do know that's ample perms for myth to display those images
[05:47:00] redline-: no cover could mean that there was no png cover created
[05:47:00] Nothingman: but I can't view the image, either
[05:48:00] sPiN: umm do i setup the pvr 150 as a standar v4l cap card or a mpeg2 encoder card?
[05:48:00] sPiN: i see it has the pvr 250 and 350 listed for mpeg2 encoder, but not the 150
[05:48:00] redline-: sPiN: did you insyall the ivtv driver yet?
[05:49:00] sPiN: sure did
[05:49:00] sPiN: .37c
[05:49:00] redline-: i think its standard v4l
[05:49:00] sPiN: thankd redline-
[05:49:00] Cardoe: sPiN: .37c is way outdated
[05:49:00] Cardoe: get 0.4.0 or 0.4.1
[05:49:00] redline-: i would stick with 037 for now
[05:50:00] sPiN: seems i read about trouble with .4
[05:50:00] redline-: actually 038 was the most stable release to date I have used
[05:50:00] redline-: i have a pvr 500
[05:51:00] sPiN: ummm i remember reading to use the zap2it service in the docs, so i got an acct there
[05:51:00] redline-: Nothingman: you cant view if you browse to it or open it in a program?
[05:51:00] sPiN: but i dont see them in the list of video sources
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[05:51:00] redline-: data direct is zap2it
[05:51:00] sPiN: ahh good good, thanks again redline-
[05:52:00] redline-: np
[05:52:00] Cardoe: redline-: why 037
[05:52:00] Cardoe: it sucked
[05:52:00] Cardoe: especially for pvr 150s
[05:52:00] redline-: well 038
[05:52:00] Cardoe: I'd like some justification
[05:52:00] Nothingman: only in MythTV
[05:53:00] Cardoe: let's see some facts here
[05:53:00] Cardoe: other then crappy conjecture
[05:53:00] redline-: 037 I had troubles with but got to work and 038 was the best I had used
[05:54:00] redline-: video was clear with no noise, there was no screen tearing, in 04 041 05 051 051(cvs) Ive had screen tearing
[05:54:00] redline-: also 04–05 have noise in the picture ofr some reason and its not as clear as could be
[05:55:00] Cardoe: that would be firmware
[05:55:00] redline-: I am currently using 0.5.2 svn checkout 3053 which is stable with ok picture quality
[05:55:00] redline-: i am using the same firmware just sim linked to different directories
[05:57:00] redline-: I am by no means an expert on any of this, but i have put alot of time into it
[05:58:00] Nothingman: sorry, scratch that
[05:59:00] Nothingman: for some reason the total size of all the pics in that directory was 0
[05:59:00] redline-: you may be missing a depndancy somewhere
[06:00:00] redline-: what distro do you use?
[06:03:00] Nothingman: OK, so now I've copied the original files to that directory, and still I get nothing
[06:08:00] sPiN: i cant seem to find it in the docs, what was that cmd it said to use for testing the cap card?
[06:08:00] sPiN: cat /dev/video0 blah.mpg?
[06:08:00] redline-: cat /dev/video0 > test1.mpg
[06:08:00] redline-: mplayer test1.mpg
[06:08:00] sPiN: ohhh > thanks :)
[06:09:00] sPiN: hrmmm well i have no /dev/video anything
[06:09:00] redline-: video0?
[06:09:00] Nothingman: got the images working now
[06:09:00] sPiN: nope just vcs
[06:09:00] redline-: permissions nothingman?
[06:09:00] sPiN: the only v i have in /dev
[06:09:00] redline-: how about /dev/v4l/0 ?
[06:10:00] sPiN: nope, just vcs 0–10
[06:10:00] Nothingman: yup
[06:10:00] Nothingman: still nothing for video
[06:10:00] sPiN: do i need to reboot after the ivtv?
[06:10:00] redline-: you could try that
[06:10:00] Nothingman: at least, for video thumbnails
[06:11:00] Nothingman: using xine for playing them
[06:11:00] Nothingman: anyone here have mplayer on ubuntu
[06:11:00] Nothingman: ?
[06:11:00] redline-: I run gentoo
[06:12:00] redline-: sPiN what encoder firmware revision are you running?
[06:14:00] sPiN: not sure about that, how can i check
[06:16:00] redline-: did you extract your own firmware or d/l it from an ivtv site?
[06:16:00] sPiN: neither, i used suse and it downloaded it for me
[06:17:00] sPiN: it said it was 'download ivtv firmware'
[06:17:00] t00m: arrrrrrghl
[06:17:00] t00m: * Qt is missing MySQL support. Please add
[06:17:00] t00m: * 'mysql' to your USE flags, and re-emerge Qt.
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[06:17:00] redline-: lol that suck t00m
[06:18:00] t00m: but i HAVE it already
[06:18:00] t00m: in my use flags..
[06:18:00] Nothingman: how do I remove listings for programs I've already deleted the files for by hand?
[06:18:00] redline-: sPin not sure how to find out otherwise, just make sure its loading when the driver starts up
[06:18:00] Trimble: Hi all
[06:19:00] redline-: after a reboot type dmesg | more and look for ===========Begin IVTV===========
[06:19:00] redline-: Nothingman that has to be removed manually from the database
[06:19:00] redline-: my suggestion is phpmyadmin
[06:20:00] sPiN: i just did lsmod and i see lots of ivtv and bttv
[06:20:00] sPiN: v4l2_common
[06:20:00] redline-: typed the dmesg command
[06:21:00] redline-: or in 2 console windows: 1 tail -f /var/log/messages 2 modprobe ivtv
[06:23:00] sPiN: it says START INIT IVTV
[06:23:00] redline-: look for error information in there
[06:25:00] sPiN: kobject_register failed for tveeprom (-17) is the only error i see
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[06:30:00] Trimble: I'm a TOTAL linux n00b. Can someone recommend some place I can go to begin learning enough to work on MythTV? I have aquired all the equipment I need to build one.. :(
[06:31:00] sPiN: knoppmyth might be a good option if you just want a dedicated linux box
[06:31:00] sPiN: err mythbox
[06:34:00] Trimble: that's what I want.. a dedicated box. I downloaded knoppmyth, burned the CD, wiped the machine and installed it... it came up, for the most part, but it didn't seem to find the network card or the tv card.
[06:35:00] Trimble: the machine is a HP/compaq corporate type box with a ATI tv wonder card in it.
[06:35:00] Trimble: i don't have a vga->tv convertor yet, but it can use a monitor for now.
[06:36:00] sPiN: seems like i read some very band things about ati AIW cards cap abilities
[06:36:00] sPiN: BAD even
[06:36:00] Trimble: it is NOT an AIW card. it's a TV wonder card.
[06:36:00] Trimble: the mythtv dox specifically state that AIW cards are fucked, but TVwonder cards are ok
[06:37:00] Trimble: it says that "The TV Wonder series of cards are supported by the Bt8x8 Video4Linux driver." but I don't know what that means.
[06:38:00] Trimble: i think knoppmyth dox said that it supports some type of card 'out of the box', but obviously not mine :(
[06:39:00] Trimble: so, i assume I need to tweak it. I'm willing to go learn linux to fix this, but I just need a nudge in the right direction.
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[06:39:00] sPiN: well theres not a like an one stop shop for taht
[06:40:00] sPiN: you dont really do it by reading so much as by using linux a lot and getting better over time
[06:40:00] sPiN: http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/
[06:40:00] sPiN: here is a cmd line cheat sheet
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[06:42:00] Trimble: thank you :)
[06:43:00] Trimble: i guess my first trick is learning how to make sure the drivers for my tv card are loading.
[06:43:00] Trimble: and my network card.
[06:43:00] sPiN: at cmd line you can do a --help after a cmd to find out the switches and you can get detailed help with: man somecmdhere
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[06:46:00] sPiN: not sure which firmware i should download.. i just downloaded and compiled ivtv .4
[06:46:00] sPiN: .4.1 actually
[06:47:00] sPiN: it said detected cx25841
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[07:00:00] sPiN: im getting a failed to load firmware, i got the firmware, but i dont know where to put it
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[07:23:00] so_: sPiN, mythtv wiki
[07:23:00] sPiN: i think i just figured it out, rebooting now
[07:24:00] so_: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware
[07:24:00] sPiN: thx so, i hadnt been to that wiki yet, i was on the ivtv firmware page
[07:24:00] sPiN: yeah that one
[07:25:00] so_: I think the big things are what is the filename based on your version and what is the FIRMWARE_DIR in the congss
[07:25:00] so_: configs
[07:26:00] sPiN: im on 2.6.13 and do not have hotplug
[07:26:00] so_: ivtv version
[07:26:00] sPiN: .4.1
[07:27:00] so_: that's what I mean, in 4.1 they changed the firmware filenames a bit, and you need to put the firels in the firght directory is all :)
[07:27:00] so_: files in the right :)
[07:27:00] so_: man typing is bad tonight
[07:28:00] sPiN: the 2 bin files were in /lib/modules, but i dont think they go there
[07:28:00] sPiN: i dont have that firmware.agent file anywhere on my machine
[07:29:00] so_: as long as you set the FIRMWARE_DIR to /lib/modules it is probably okay
[07:29:00] sPiN: i put them in /lib/modules/2.6.13–15.7-default/ivtv
[07:29:00] sPiN: im running suse 10, no idea were that would be set
[07:29:00] so_: it's not a kernel thing
[07:30:00] sPiN: well they were in /lib/modules and i still get failed to load in the dmesg for those, but it did load the other pieces
[07:30:00] sPiN: err firmware parts, the .roms
[07:30:00] so_: no hotplug = /lib/modules hotplug means that the firmware.agent file can set the location
[07:30:00] so_: weird
[07:31:00] sPiN: ohh wait i misread the error, perhaps it did load those, but i have an error about vl-cx2341x-enc.fw
[07:32:00] sPiN: i see a v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin in the ivtv-0.4.1 dir where i compiled ivtv....
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[07:36:00] abarbaccia: hey all – anybody look at ivtv 4.1? If someone can look at the changelog and let me know if i have to rename the firmware files it'd be greatly appreciated! thanks again.
[07:36:00] sPiN: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware
[07:39:00] Cardoe: abarbaccia: you do... read the info
[07:40:00] abarbaccia: Cardoe, in the change log?
[07:40:00] sPiN: www.phpfi.com/93301
[07:41:00] sPiN: that is the error i get about loading the firmware
[07:41:00] abarbaccia: and if so – shouldnt the ivtvfwextract.pl be modified to change the name of the files upon extraction?
[07:47:00] sPiN: OHH DUH :(
[07:47:00] sPiN: i read that the file names had changed, but my braind didnt process it
[07:47:00] sPiN: its 2:45AM here
[07:49:00] Cardoe: abarbaccia: go read the info
[07:51:00] sPiN: so do i have to restart again? or is there someway i can reload the ivtv drivers
[07:52:00] sPiN: rmmod says they are in use
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[07:54:00] t00m: i've got a problem with my grub after moving from IDE1 to the ATA100 bus
[07:54:00] t00m: argh
[07:55:00] t00m: might not be grub but the kernel
[07:55:00] t00m: *doh*
[07:56:00] t00m: VFS
[07:57:00] t00m: cannot open root device hde1 or unknown-block(0,0)
[07:58:00] t00m: maybe i have to compile a new kernel that supports the ata100 thingy :/
[08:05:00] Cardoe: sPiN: turn off myth
[08:06:00] Cardoe: kormoc: ping me when you get a chance
[08:06:00] sPiN: dont have any myth stuff running
[08:07:00] sPiN: someone before said that the .fw's go in /lib/modules, but this is still not working for me
[08:08:00] sPiN: i get same error as in the paste i linked a moment ago
[08:08:00] sPiN: i have /lib/modules/2.4.etc/ivtv though
[08:08:00] sPiN: perhaps i should put them there
[08:12:00] sPiN: bah :( restart #10
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[08:14:00] t00m: ah yes
[08:15:00] sPiN: grrr.... still says: ivtv0 unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341-enc.fw
[08:15:00] kormoc: Cardoe, ping!
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[08:20:00] Cardoe: kormoc: guess what I'm breaking...
[08:20:00] kormoc: I would have to guess myth?
[08:20:00] Cardoe: kormoc: the ebuild
[08:21:00] Cardoe: making one for 0-18-fixes
[08:21:00] Cardoe: but stupidly enough a bunch of fixes aren't in there.
[08:21:00] kormoc: Yeah, I saw the post to bugzilla.
[08:21:00] kormoc: ooh?
[08:21:00] Cardoe: like the mysql-5 fix
[08:21:00] Cardoe: so I'm rolling a tarball
[08:21:00] jasta: boy, KDE is really slick these days.
[08:21:00] ** jasta uninstalls GNOME from his desktop **
[08:22:00] Cardoe: kormoc: and the CPU types patch I submited ages and ages ago
[08:22:00] kormoc: Cardoe, Niceness, I'd be willing to test it some if you want
[08:22:00] ** Cardoe nods. **
[08:22:00] Cardoe: what version do you run now?
[08:22:00] kormoc: .18.1
[08:22:00] Cardoe: your own compiled
[08:22:00] Cardoe: or my ebuild
[08:23:00] kormoc: yours
[08:23:00] Cardoe: how do you feel about me creating a "mythtv" user in the ebuild?
[08:23:00] kormoc: hrm
[08:23:00] kormoc: Honestly, I wouldn't mind it
[08:24:00] kormoc: by any chance, is the fix for the /var/log/myth home delt with yet?
[08:24:00] Cardoe: gonna include that as well
[08:24:00] Cardoe: HOME=/etc/mythtv/
[08:24:00] kormoc: yay!
[08:24:00] Cardoe: right?
[08:24:00] kormoc: that's what I do, aye
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[08:25:00] Cardoe: do we even really need to do that?
[08:25:00] twitchma1: greetings
[08:25:00] twitchma1: i think i broke mythmusic, could someone give me a hand?
[08:25:00] Cardoe: or should it just default properly?
[08:26:00] kormoc: I'm not sure
[08:26:00] kormoc: I do beleive it will default out
[08:26:00] kormoc: I can test it
[08:27:00] Cardoe: give it a shot
[08:27:00] Cardoe: I'll try it over here too
[08:27:00] kormoc: (10 min the show I'm watching is over, I'll test right after that)
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[08:28:00] Cardoe: k
[08:28:00] twitchma1: whatever i try to play, i get "DecoderMAD/FlacOgg: Failed to open input. Error 5"
[08:29:00] Cardoe: twitchma1: well what did you cahnge
[08:30:00] sPiN: doh!
[08:30:00] sPiN: still says: ivtv0 unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341-enc.fw
[08:31:00] sPiN: even though that is the files name and it is sitting in /lib/modules
[08:31:00] twitchma1: i didn't change anything, i left for a couple of hours, it was working when i left....
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[08:31:00] kormoc: twitchma1, could it just have been that one file?
[08:32:00] twitchma1: no, the files play fine in xmms
[08:32:00] twitchma1: it's my entire library
[08:32:00] kormoc: twitchma1, no system update?
[08:32:00] ** SlicerDicer- waves at kormoc **
[08:32:00] t00m: strange. my bttv module disappeared
[08:32:00] Cardoe: sPiN: /lib/firmware/
[08:33:00] kormoc: mornin SlicerDicer-
[08:33:00] twitchma1: no, gave x the 3 finger salute while it was playing, but that shouldn't have broken it
[08:33:00] twitchma1: just x, not the whole box
[08:33:00] sPiN: yeah i thought that too, what with the .fw the docs said to put them in /lib/modules if you didnt have hotplug
[08:33:00] sPiN: ill trythat, reboot and give it another go
[08:34:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: do you know if I use the hardware decoding of myth then use mythvideo and put in say a AVI will it allow me to view it without it cutting off the edges or will it be overscanned? or underscanned... I can never remember what ones cut off the edge haha
[08:35:00] kormoc: Cardoe, looks good, commented out the home line and it still found my config in /etc/mythtv
[08:35:00] Cardoe: ok good
[08:36:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, it should with the proper overscan settings
[08:36:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: so it will scale to the size of the mythfrontend?
[08:36:00] SlicerDicer-: mplayer wont override and explode beyond the edges of mythfrontned?
[08:36:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, you can set the player to Internal and it will play in myth's internal player, just as if it was tv
[08:37:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, myth uses ffmpeg to play, so it plays a ton of videofiles.
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: hmm ok kormoc
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: sounds good
[08:38:00] sPiN: ahhh yes yes!
[08:38:00] sPiN: it works now!
[08:38:00] sPiN: thanks a lot fellas!
[08:39:00] sPiN: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware
[08:39:00] kormoc: Cardoe, ooh, question. Is the QTDIR= needed in the init.d script?
[08:40:00] sPiN: if one of you guys has a login for that, you should perhaps revise the directions there for 'newer drivers'
[08:40:00] sPiN: If no hotplug support is available in the kernel, then the usual /lib/modules location is used to find the firmware files.
[08:40:00] Cardoe: kormoc: not sure
[08:40:00] sPiN: i had to move all of mine to /lib/firmware
[08:41:00] kormoc: Cardoe, typing env on a new root login shows QTDIR is already set on mine
[08:41:00] Cardoe: is jarod around?
[08:41:00] Cardoe: kormoc: oh yes it is.
[08:41:00] Cardoe: because when you have QT4 installed
[08:41:00] kormoc: Cardoe, sadly, he's not.
[08:41:00] Cardoe: QT4 will override
[08:41:00] kormoc: ahh, I see
[08:41:00] sPiN: mwahahah :) i capd video!
[08:41:00] Cardoe: someone needs to take over the 0-18-fixes branch
[08:41:00] ** sPiN does a jig **
[08:42:00] Cardoe: I'm gonna volunteer to Chutt
[08:42:00] kormoc: coolness.
[08:42:00] twitchma1: another question, is there a way that i can place video's out of my vid dir. onto a disc created with nuv2disc, thru the myth interface?
[08:43:00] twitchma1: or is there another method for burning dvds with content that wasn't recorded with myth?
[08:44:00] t00m: what happened if top shows 905428k total Memory, but BIOS says 1310720k
[08:44:00] Cardoe: t00m: need to enable high mem support in kernel
[08:44:00] t00m: arghl
[08:44:00] t00m: thx
[08:45:00] Cardoe: pick 4gb
[08:45:00] t00m: i need to redo my kernel config anyway
[08:46:00] t00m: just waiting for emerge to sync and then checkout latest sources
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[08:49:00] t00m: o dear
[08:49:00] kormoc: Cardoe, I also had a thought
[08:49:00] t00m: not again
[08:50:00] t00m: i built my kernel in the future
[08:50:00] kormoc: Cardoe, Given that the opengl_profile is a env var now, you could check for it to be nvidia and kill the warning about the nvidia use flag being set (or default it on?)
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[08:56:00] Cardoe: eh?
[08:58:00] kormoc: Cardoe, right now, with the nvidia use flag set, there's a little warning blurb about it requireing a nvidia card, so you could check to see if OPENGL_PROFILE is nvidia, and if it is, they have a nvidia card, so no need for the warning, and infact, if they have it, you could default the nvidia USE flag on perhaps?
[08:58:00] Cardoe: the blurb is about GeForce 4 and higher
[08:58:00] Cardoe: because the feature that you're turning on is only in GeForce4 and higher
[08:58:00] kormoc: ahh, gotcha
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[09:15:00] Cardoe: kormoc: so masked ebuild created
[09:15:00] Cardoe: and in the process of commiting
[09:15:00] Cardoe: no plugins for it yet
[09:15:00] ** kormoc nods **
[09:15:00] Cardoe: haven't compiled it yet
[09:15:00] Cardoe: too tired
[09:16:00] Cardoe: and I should have been in bed 4 hrs ago
[09:16:00] Cardoe: so I'm gonna sleep
[09:16:00] Cardoe: and I'll mess with it some more in the AM
[09:16:00] kormoc: kk, sounds good, sleep well
[09:16:00] ** jasta pokes kormoc **
[09:16:00] kormoc: mornin jasta
[09:16:00] jasta: how was your christmas? :)
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[09:16:00] kormoc: went well, how was yours?
[09:17:00] jasta: pretty cool. my brother hosted this year at his new house.
[09:17:00] jasta: he just got married and stuff.
[09:17:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: you ever used cinelerra?
[09:17:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, can't say that I have.
[09:17:00] kormoc: coolness jasta
[09:17:00] jasta: his wife made the dinner and everything. not used to having christmas dinner prepared by anyone with less than 20 years experience doing that sort of thing :)
[09:17:00] jasta: she was all stressed out and stuff :)
[09:17:00] SlicerDicer-: I was experimenting with it when I used ubuntu but I did not realise there was a AMD64 build it might actually be interesting :)
[09:18:00] kormoc: jasta, hehe, it is a tad stressful at times, esp with a big family
[09:18:00] jasta: but yeah, it was good. going back out to my home town tomorrow to finish up with my friends that are back in town for the holidays.
[09:19:00] jasta: should be pretty awkward, actually :)
[09:19:00] kormoc: ooh?
[09:19:00] jasta: my friend lindsay's mom is hosting a christmas deal at their house tomorrow. she does it every year the day after so that all of her friends can come out and stuff. sort of a non-family christmas get together thing.
[09:20:00] jasta: well, last time i was at lindsay's mom's house was back in May and i met this girl there. we've been seeing each other since, but Lindsay doesn't really know :)
[09:20:00] jasta: the girl's mom invited me to the christmas deal at lindsay's mom's house tomorrow — not lindsay.
[09:21:00] jasta: so i'm going, as a guest of that family basically.
[09:21:00] jasta: lindsay knows i'm gonna be there because i told her today, but it should still be really awkward how i divide my time :)
[09:21:00] jasta: spend too much time with lindsay, my gf will be pissed. spend too much time with my gf, lindsay will be pissed :)
[09:21:00] jasta: esp since for a long time i had a major crush on lindsay :)
[09:21:00] jasta: and my gf knows it :(
[09:21:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: sounds like you need some "austin powers mojo" ;-)
[09:22:00] SlicerDicer-: ok that was lame lol
[09:22:00] jasta: maybe ill ignore them both and just talk to lindsay's mom :)
[09:22:00] kormoc: jasta, heh, I'd say, GF gets first dibs on time, but don't ignore the others :P
[09:23:00] jasta: lindsay's mom throws awesome parties. she's such a cool lady :)
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: jasta a local here?
[09:23:00] jasta: first time i ever got drunk was at her mom's party :)
[09:23:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, would seem that way
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: well it seems you know him :)
[09:23:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: I've talked to him a few times. He lives very close to me.
[09:23:00] kormoc: jasta, you're in tukwila right?
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh cool
[09:24:00] jasta: kormoc: North Seattle. Ravenna neighbourhood.
[09:24:00] ** SlicerDicer- waves from North Bend **
[09:24:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, yeah, I have yet to meet him
[09:24:00] kormoc: we need to get that myth get together going
[09:24:00] kormoc: xris, SlicerDicer-, jasta, and myself
[09:24:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:24:00] jasta: so anyway, the town to which I'm referring to is Port Orchard. any of you heard of it? :)
[09:25:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: there is so many damn suburbs, small towns, names in general and stupid names I cant keep track sorry lol
[09:25:00] jasta: didn't think so :)
[09:25:00] jasta: it's a small town on the other side of the sound. sandwiched between Bremerton and Gig Harbor.
[09:26:00] jasta: that's where i'm from, sadly :)
[09:26:00] SlicerDicer-: well better than seattle ;)
[09:26:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[09:27:00] jasta: hey :)
[09:27:00] jasta: i like seattle :)
[09:27:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: knows I will not drive past mercer island, I have to be up in everett or down in tacoma to go to the sound
[09:27:00] SlicerDicer-: I avoid everything in the middle like the plague
[09:27:00] kormoc: tacoma is way worse then Seattle
[09:27:00] jasta: Tacoma is so ghetto!
[09:27:00] kormoc: as is everett imho :P
[09:28:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: only reason I go to tacoma is for the telephone museum :)
[09:28:00] jasta: Everett is nice though. I bailed a girl out of jail from there once.
[09:28:00] jasta: :)
[09:28:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: and where the telephone museum is.. well you go off the interstate and no self respecting crackhead would be around the CO there LOL
[09:28:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Have you ever been to any of the north-side neighbourhoods in Seattle? Fremont, Wallingford, Ravenna, etc?
[09:28:00] jasta: They're nice.
[09:29:00] jasta: Green Lake? no? :)
[09:29:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: um my uncle lives there
[09:29:00] SlicerDicer-: its a shithole
[09:29:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[09:29:00] SlicerDicer-: IMO
[09:29:00] jasta: What makes it a shithole?
[09:29:00] kormoc: ballard isn't that bad at all imho
[09:29:00] jasta: A lot of the neighbourhoods up north are really quite cozy.
[09:30:00] SlicerDicer-: umm well take for instance my uncle got robbed 10 times in front of his house.... had 2 cars stolen... hookers hang out on his yard.. shall I go on?
[09:30:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Where at?
[09:30:00] kormoc: where's your uncle live?
[09:30:00] SlicerDicer-: 76th right by greenlake
[09:30:00] SlicerDicer-: I think its 76th
[09:30:00] jasta: I have old people hanging out in front of my house.
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[09:31:00] SlicerDicer-: http://local.google.com/maps?ll=47.682957,-12 . . . 24&hl=en
[09:31:00] SlicerDicer-: right in that area is where he lives
[09:31:00] SlicerDicer-: I hate that area :/
[09:31:00] jasta: look to the right at the little green patch (ravenna park).
[09:31:00] jasta: That's where I live.
[09:32:00] jasta: And I love it.
[09:32:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: also I had a good friend who lived right at greenlake and he had his car stolen and his house broken into
[09:32:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, maybe he hires hookers to stand near his house? :P
[09:32:00] SlicerDicer-: north side of greenlake
[09:32:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: lol
[09:32:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont know kormoc I hate the bastard I could care less but that does not mean that what happend to him has any less merit :)
[09:32:00] jasta: I have never heard of anything like that happening. Are you sure he isn't embellishing a little?
[09:33:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: he has lived there 30 years :)
[09:33:00] jasta: I have lots of friends that live on and around Green Lake.
[09:33:00] kormoc: that's not that bad of a track record for 30 years
[09:33:00] jasta: Very nice neighbourhoods around there. Clean, safe, etc.
[09:33:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Oh, well, 30 years is a very long time.
[09:33:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: well I havent ever been threatened, robbed, had my house broken into, car stolen etc
[09:33:00] SlicerDicer-: never...
[09:34:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: That's a function of luck more so than location, trust me.
[09:34:00] jasta: Crime happens everywhere on the planet where people exist.
[09:34:00] kormoc: I had our house in the middle of nowhere, PA broken into three times? maybe four...
[09:34:00] SlicerDicer-: I tend to keep it that way by living in areas that crime is lower than the amount of people that live there
[09:34:00] jasta: Rather, where at least 2 people exist :)
[09:34:00] SlicerDicer-: although ted bundy buried his victims out here
[09:34:00] SlicerDicer-: just did not kill them here
[09:34:00] ** SlicerDicer- notes 4 houses up from my uncle is where ted bundy lived **
[09:34:00] SlicerDicer-: at one point anyway
[09:35:00] jasta: My parents house in PO was broken into once. My step sisters car got broken into there too.
[09:35:00] SlicerDicer-: PO?
[09:35:00] jasta: Port Orchard is a very small town, and we lived out in the middle of nowhere in it.
[09:35:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: point taken
[09:35:00] SlicerDicer-: I just dont like it down there in that area
[09:35:00] jasta: In fact, I would bet that relative to the population, crime happens much more frequently in small towns.
[09:35:00] jasta: Lots of bored teenagers and stuff.
[09:35:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont like seattle in general I tink my uncle has alot to do with it I dont want to run into him lol
[09:35:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, also, one thing I've noticed is that assholes tend to get hammered by crime a lot... Karma and all...
[09:36:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: indeed
[09:36:00] jasta: I haven't noticed any crime at all around here.
[09:36:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, if you run into him, just point him at me :P
[09:36:00] SlicerDicer-: although my buddy who had problems was a really nice guy
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[09:36:00] jasta: Closest problem I've had was when I used to live in the U District and I literally had to fight a homeless guy.
[09:36:00] jasta: I was carrying around 2 bottles of whiskey to a party at my friend's house.
[09:36:00] SlicerDicer-: lol jasta
[09:36:00] jasta: In my back pack.
[09:36:00] jasta: The homeless guy heard the bottles clank despite my best efforts to be quiet...
[09:37:00] SlicerDicer-: well thats your problem ;) homeless seattle people have radar ears/nose for booze
[09:37:00] jasta: He started following me closely and when I told him to back off he tried to steal my back pack.
[09:37:00] kormoc: (wrap them in paper towls and no more clinkage!)
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[09:37:00] kormoc: (learned that one in middle school :P)
[09:37:00] jasta: I punched him in the chest and he backed off :)
[09:37:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: I guess my problem is I have always lived in higher class areas :/ so I look at places like OMG no way lol
[09:38:00] jasta: It was sort of a "i haven't eaten in a week, and he ate 2 hours ago" realization for him.
[09:38:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Do you have any idea how many cars get stolen in Bellevue?
[09:38:00] SlicerDicer-: a metric ton of civic's sure
[09:38:00] t00m: anyone noticed that, when something in a console scrolls really fast on a LCD screen it's making that click noises for each line?
[09:38:00] kormoc: I like my car's antitheift system
[09:38:00] jasta: Ritzy neighbourhoods get lots of car thefts for obvious reasons :)
[09:38:00] sPiN: i keep seeing errors about it not being able to connect to the master server, but i have that configured with myth-setup
[09:39:00] kormoc: a layer of dirt so thick, the guys think that it has to be a rust bucket
[09:39:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:39:00] sPiN: i can visit 127.0.0.1 with firefox, and i see the apache start page
[09:39:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: did I ever tell you about my old audi?
[09:39:00] sPiN: it doesnt seem to like the socket
[09:39:00] SlicerDicer-: I usto leave the keys in the car... if somebody stole it they would beg me to take it back LOL!!
[09:39:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, the one I saw? or one before that?
[09:39:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: You've got a misaligned perspective, supported only by your inexperience with other environments :)
[09:39:00] SlicerDicer-: before that kormoc
[09:39:00] sPiN: the :6543, is there something special i have to do to apache perhaps
[09:39:00] lithi: Any reason I should not get the "Hauppauge WinTv-PVR 150 MCE"? Besides no remote.
[09:40:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: yep I grew up in Flordia Keys, Lived in Aspen Colorado etc...
[09:40:00] kormoc: sPiN, what are you tring to do?
[09:40:00] sPiN: lithi: the MCE version doesnt have a hardware decoder does it?
[09:40:00] sPiN: kormoc: watch live tv
[09:40:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Doesn't that make it difficult for you to relate to people?
[09:40:00] kormoc: sPiN, run mythfrontend, why are you tring to use a web broswer?
[09:40:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: no not really I just dont understand why people would want to live in a place like that but other than that I have no problems relating to them
[09:41:00] lithi: sPiN: I don't know, thats why im asking.
[09:41:00] sPiN: i did run the mythfront end, and when it starts it says in my console, mythtv:could not connect to socket
[09:41:00] sPiN: connection refusted
[09:41:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: a place like what?
[09:41:00] kormoc: jasta, SlicerDicer- doesn't really like my area much at all, but we relate fine, it's just he won't make it to any of my gatherings :P
[09:41:00] sPiN: i used firefox to make sure apache was up
[09:41:00] kormoc: sPiN, what does apache have to do with mythtv?
[09:42:00] SlicerDicer-: well my uncle for instance how the hell he can live in a house that the deadbolt falls out of the door if you rattle it... etc LOL!!
[09:42:00] SlicerDicer-: see my view is slanted :)
[09:42:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Can you explain yourself without using an example that involves a person I don't know?
[09:42:00] sPiN: kormoc: oh yeah.. it runs its own thing, so apache is interfering with it?
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[09:42:00] SlicerDicer-: umm.. I can try :)
[09:43:00] jasta: For all I know, your uncle could be a complete moron who hires hookers to loiter on his property and invites criminals in for tea.
[09:43:00] kormoc: sPiN, no, apache usually runs on port 80, mythbackend runs on 6543. Is the backend running?
[09:43:00] sPiN: yep
[09:43:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: LOL!!
[09:43:00] lithi: anyone here running a hauppauge 150?
[09:43:00] jasta: I don't know, he does live in Seattle, and I will admit that Seattle has a lot of weird idiots.
[09:43:00] t00m: damnit, CONFIG_DVB_BT8XX isn't in the kernel config any more. how could that happen?
[09:43:00] sPiN: Seem to be woken up by USER
[09:43:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: well bars on the windows around that area dont inspire confidence does that help?
[09:43:00] kormoc: sPiN, and your user's ~/.myth/mysql.txt is setup correctly?
[09:43:00] sPiN: havent looked at that before, one sec
[09:43:00] kormoc: t00m, the bt8xx isn't a dvb card?
[09:44:00] t00m: yes
[09:44:00] t00m: eh
[09:44:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: I've never seen any bars on windows or other non-suburban security in my neighbourhood.
[09:44:00] t00m: NO
[09:44:00] jasta: and I bet I could walk to Green Lake in 2 hours.
[09:44:00] jasta: Maybe less :)
[09:44:00] SlicerDicer-: your that far from greenlake?
[09:45:00] jasta: No, I think I just walk slow :)
[09:45:00] jasta: It would probably take an hour.
[09:45:00] SlicerDicer-: takes 10 mins from his place or less
[09:45:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, walking tends to be 3 mph or so
[09:45:00] SlicerDicer-: he lives on aurora just about
[09:46:00] t00m: kormoc: # grep DViCO /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.bttv
[09:46:00] t00m: card=128 – DViCO FusionHDTV DVB-T Lite
[09:46:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: I live on 65th and 25th. The freeway is on ~7th, Green Lake is another 6 or 7 blocks.
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[09:46:00] jasta: It'd probably be 30 city blocks. It would take a while.
[09:46:00] kormoc: t00m, that's CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 isn't it?
[09:47:00] SlicerDicer-: thats quite a distance jasta
[09:47:00] SlicerDicer-: see I havent been over on that side of the interstate no need
[09:47:00] t00m: kormoc: i used to load the dvb-bt8xx module and the bttv
[09:47:00] SlicerDicer-: although I will say ballard is pretty nice down there by the locks and what not
[09:48:00] SlicerDicer-: I just dont like their parking jobs http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/parking.jpg ;-)
[09:48:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: East of I5 is cooler :)
[09:48:00] jasta: My house especially. I have a pool table :)
[09:49:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: but you have to agree Aurora is a shithole
[09:49:00] SlicerDicer-: around there
[09:49:00] kormoc: jasta!!! My hero!
[09:49:00] jasta: Aurora is a highway, it's not a neighbourhood.
[09:49:00] t00m: kormoc: arghl. found it
[09:49:00] SlicerDicer-: well I am talking the area around it
[09:49:00] SlicerDicer-: by greenlake
[09:49:00] sPiN: awesome! im in business now!
[09:49:00] jasta: Aurora is a place you drive through, not a place you stop.
[09:49:00] jasta: kormoc: ?
[09:49:00] kormoc: jasta, pool table + house == hero
[09:49:00] sPiN: i think it was apache, it was listening to all ports as well as 80 and was intercepting the calls
[09:49:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: I dont know the damn name of the area there
[09:50:00] jasta: kormoc: Oh yeah. You can come play on it anytime you'd like :)
[09:50:00] sPiN: thanks kormoc!
[09:50:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: The Green Lake neighbourhood is pretty slick if you ask me. I have probably been to 10 houses along the lake before.
[09:50:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: what is it called from 80th to 110th on aurora?
[09:50:00] kormoc: jasta, I might have to take you up on that offer sometime :)
[09:50:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Well, that's getting much too far North to be Green Lake.
[09:51:00] jasta: kormoc: 65th and 25th :)
[09:51:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: yeah thats the shithole area I am talking about
[09:51:00] jasta: We live in the only house with a gate right there by the corner :)
[09:51:00] jasta: Our house looks like a castle compared to all these other idiots that live next to me :)
[09:51:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: its really hard for me to explain as I dont know my way around there :/
[09:51:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Well, that area is pretty shitty. Especially if you are near to 99. Don't go there anymore.
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[09:51:00] jasta: Go to one of the nice parts of Seattle, insetad.
[09:51:00] jasta: instead*
[09:52:00] jasta: Stop thinking of Seattle as one giant city, and start thinking about it properly: a heavily fractured set of compressed but independent neighbourhoods.
[09:52:00] jasta: All of the neighbourhoods are different, they're just close to each other.
[09:52:00] SlicerDicer-: point taken
[09:52:00] jasta: It takes me 5 minutes to get from where I live to Capital Hill. Capital Hill is full of gay people and weird goth freaks. I hate that place :)
[09:53:00] jasta: I'd certainly never live there! Yeesh! :)
[09:53:00] ** jasta likes Fremont, Ballard, Wallingford, etc. **
[09:53:00] SlicerDicer-: discovery park was cool when I went there
[09:53:00] SlicerDicer-: just harder than hell to find my way around lol
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: good seafood places nearby too
[09:54:00] jasta: Just like any other city, Seattle is easy to navigate if you spend more than a week moving around it.
[09:54:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, OH MY! Have you been to saltys yet?
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: I know bellevue really well :)
[09:55:00] jasta: Bellevue is smaller, so consider that in terms of relative complexity, you could learn Seattle with a proportionate investment of time driving around and being lost.
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: although its not near the trek as compared with seattle
[09:55:00] jasta: I can find pretty much anything in Seattle, even in neighbourhoods I've never been to.
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: not yet
[09:55:00] jasta: Everytime I drive downtown, I just pick up a cross street or a land mark and I get myself there.
[09:55:00] jasta: The hardest time I've had finding something was when my friend told me to meet him at the "Denny's on Capital Hill" and hung up :)
[09:56:00] jasta: The only reason I could find it was because apparently at 4am, the only place people in Capital Hill are going is the Denny's :)
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: what pisses me off bad is the fact that stupid ass interstate entrances look like neighborhood roads with a _tiny_ signs so you end up on I5
[09:56:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, they have a wonderful pan seired tuna that's to die for
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: me and kormoc talked about the madness of the roads there lol
[09:56:00] jasta: kormoc: BTW, our mythtv box is in the pool room :)
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: and some areas dont have roadsigns....
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: how the hell do you navigate?
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:56:00] jasta: We use it almost exclusively for music streamed wirelessly from our downstairs fileserver (3x300GB software RAID5)
[09:57:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: You develop an extremely strong sense of cardinal direction when you live in Seattle. It happens very naturally.
[09:57:00] jasta: And you no longer have the ability to get lost in the city :)
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh that aint happening
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: I get lost in north bend
[09:57:00] jasta: Well then you must have ovaries :)
[09:57:00] kormoc: haha
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: no I just have a horrible sense of direction
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: never needed a good one
[09:58:00] kormoc: I can't beleive how natually my sense of direction worked after I moved here
[09:58:00] jasta: kormoc: Me too!
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: every place I have lived there has been 1 road in 1 road out
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: kinda hard to get lost
[09:58:00] jasta: My awareness of direction increased 10 fold when I moved to Seattle.
[09:58:00] jasta: I literally can find anything now :)
[09:58:00] kormoc: mine didn't increase, but it just switched over within a week
[09:59:00] jasta: kormoc: ...it's a nice table too :)
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: http://local.google.com/maps?ll=47.493545,-12 . . . 47&hl=en if I can get lost there... imagine me in seattle lol
[09:59:00] jasta: standard 8 foot home table :)
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[09:59:00] kormoc: jasta, you tring to get me to drive over there right now? :P
[09:59:00] jasta: nice, solid bumpers.
[09:59:00] jasta: well kept, 2 year old felt.
[09:59:00] jasta: kormoc: No, I'm just saying, we welcome competition on the table :)
[09:59:00] jasta: the only people in the house that play are me and one of my roommates.
[09:59:00] jasta: It's good to get use out of it :)
[10:00:00] jasta: We only have one "good" cue though, and it's my personal one :)
[10:00:00] jasta: We've been meaning to spend $100 on a set of 4 decent ones.
[10:00:00] kormoc: hehe, while I won't be much competition, esp with how much practice I would assume you'd have, it'd still be fun.
[10:00:00] jasta: and maybe $150 on a nice set of balls.
[10:00:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: its actually rather easy to get lost http://local.google.com/maps?ll=47.504214,-12 . . . 88&hl=en if you look at the maze of roads you take the wrong one you end up in the middle of nowhere lol and no way out but uturn
[10:00:00] jasta: kormoc: I practice quite a bit, yes :)
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[10:01:00] damian666: hi folks, installed mythtv 2 days ago and it works like a charm on linux side, but as i like this live-tv thing i downloaded also winmyth, but this damned thing won't work is there any "patch" or hint ? the newest version always yells back that cmythbase couild not be initialized :(
[10:01:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: hehe, I flipped a uturn RIGHT in front of a cap a week ago out on my street.
[10:01:00] jasta: I mean I pretty much cut the cop off doing the uturn.
[10:01:00] jasta: He didn't even flinch to pull me over :)
[10:01:00] jasta: I love that :)
[10:01:00] kormoc: jasta, last time I was in a target, they sold some really cheap ($10–15) cues that wen't all that bad
[10:02:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh best watch your shit doing that in north bend jasta they make their money on traffic infractions :)
[10:02:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[10:02:00] jasta: kormoc: $100 can buy you a pretty decent set of 4 actually. Good weight, usable tips, etc. The tips will break in about a year though.
[10:02:00] jasta: My cue was $150, which is a lower-end personal stick.
[10:02:00] jasta: My next one will be about $500 I bet.
[10:03:00] jasta: Really, the importance of having your own stick is consistency though.
[10:03:00] jasta: You can rely on how your cue behaves. You become familiar with how it plays.
[10:03:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: cops seem to not really care about traffic infractions too much in seattle though
[10:04:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: the big ones they do, but the pety crap they ignore constantly.
[10:04:00] kormoc: jasta, yeah, I understand
[10:04:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: yeah petty crap is what I am talking about
[10:04:00] SlicerDicer-: they bust you out here if you dont use a turn signal I swear
[10:05:00] kormoc: jasta, I'll have to see if I can find my cue... I know it's stashed somewhere in here...
[10:05:00] jasta: kormoc: Weight is pretty important too.
[10:05:00] jasta: I held off on getting my first cue for a long time to make sure I knew my ideal weight.
[10:06:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: I may one day sometime venture back into seattle but I cant see myself doing it in the near future.
[10:06:00] jasta: I'm glad I did, because I used to think it was 19. I now prefer 20.
[10:06:00] jasta: The heavier weight helps me play more delicately. I have a _VERY_ soft shot.
[10:06:00] jasta: I tend to shoot harder with a lighter stick.
[10:06:00] SlicerDicer-: its quite a distance to drive too jasta 31 miles from here :)
[10:07:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Well if you like pool, you're more than welcome to come check out my pad :)
[10:08:00] jasta: kormoc: I have found that exactly controlling the amount of power in your shots is equally important to the proper angle. If your angle is off, but your strength is correct, the ball will stop inches in front of the pocket no matter what.
[10:08:00] ** kormoc nods **
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[10:09:00] jasta: Hehe, I had some friends over for a little dinner party at my house.
[10:09:00] jasta: Afterwards we went upstairs to shoot pool and watch some movies on the myth box...
[10:09:00] jasta: I made this shot that made all my friends band together and not let me play for the rest of the night :)
[10:10:00] jasta: A ball was about 3 or 4 inches away on the rail from the side pocket, and about 1/4" away from the rail.
[10:10:00] jasta: I sliced it into the side pocket :)
[10:10:00] jasta: The ball stopped RIGHT in front of the pocket for almost a full second, then dropped in :)
[10:11:00] jasta: it was beautiful :)
[10:11:00] SlicerDicer-: that was weird kormoc
[10:11:00] SlicerDicer-: I just had a cat meow'ing outside my window for a good 10 mins
[10:11:00] kormoc: niceness jasta!
[10:11:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, ooh?
[10:11:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah
[10:11:00] kormoc: send your puppy after it? :P
[10:11:00] SlicerDicer-: it was a white persian I think
[10:12:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: I saw my cat when I was back home for christmas, and I honestly think it has forgotten me!
[10:12:00] jasta: It didn't react to seeing me at all. Didn't even come when I called it.
[10:12:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: so somebody is missing their cat I think
[10:12:00] jasta: That was my cat for 10 years!
[10:13:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: persian cats are not typically running around the forest at 214 am
[10:14:00] sPiN: if i set a program to record does it automatically skip comercials?
[10:14:00] sPiN: i saw a setting for 'setting commercial flag'
[10:15:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, sure, but in Iran right now, it's not 2:14 am :P
[10:16:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
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[10:20:00] SlicerDicer-: wow kormoc local.google.com works on my phone really well haha
[10:21:00] jasta: I can't for the life of me figure out why btdownloadcurses uses so much memory!
[10:21:00] jasta: Right now it's at 74MB.
[10:22:00] jasta: Been running for several days. How can it leak that much? Sheesh.
[10:22:00] kormoc: how much is shared?
[10:22:00] jasta: 2.5MB
[10:23:00] kormoc: ouch
[10:23:00] jasta: It's just ridiculous. giftd is using less memory.
[10:23:00] sPiN: what resolution is a ntsc signal? the default recording res is 480x480, that doesnt seem right
[10:23:00] kormoc: sPiN, might wanna google it
[10:23:00] jasta: But I don't want to interrupt this torrent. I'm downloading all the Stargate Atlantis Season 1 episodes I lost when my old drive bit it.
[10:24:00] jasta: Been downloading for a week.
[10:24:00] ** jasta is so happy to have his new drives :) **
[10:24:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: local.google.com on my phone i can search for a buisness and call them and have the address/map at the same time :P
[10:24:00] SlicerDicer-: rocks!
[10:24:00] jasta: 3x300GB in a 600GB RAID5 array
[10:24:00] SlicerDicer-: I may not get lost so easy anymore lol
[10:24:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, niceness
[10:24:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: hell yeah
[10:24:00] kormoc: jasta, coolness
[10:24:00] jasta: SlicerDicer-: Yeah, my bro was showing me that stuff on his phone the other day.
[10:24:00] SlicerDicer-: http://www.google.com/glm/index.html?utm_sour . . . _campaign=gl
[10:25:00] SlicerDicer-: jasta: its cool shit indeed
[10:26:00] jasta: kormoc: I've started ripping all my CDs to FLAC because of the increased space :)
[10:26:00] jasta: kormoc: Although, ...
[10:26:00] jasta: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[10:26:00] jasta: /dev/evms/data 559G 204G 356G 37% /data
[10:26:00] jasta: :)
[10:26:00] SlicerDicer-: alright I am off to sleep
[10:26:00] SlicerDicer-: gnite
[10:26:00] jasta: I'm filling it up fast :)
[10:26:00] kormoc: hehe
[10:26:00] kormoc: night Mr. SlicerDicer-
[10:26:00] kormoc: jasta, yeah, it's odd how fast that goes
[10:26:00] jasta: So far it's been filling up at a rate of about 0.5% per day.
[10:27:00] jasta: Rebuilding my movie and TV collection that I lost.
[10:27:00] jasta: and ripping all these DVDs I never got around to before when my box was slow :)
[10:27:00] ** jasta is a media backup packrat :) **
[10:27:00] jasta: The first thing I do with a new DVD or CD is rip it onto my fileserver :)
[10:28:00] jasta: I used to encode them, but now I just rip :)
[10:28:00] jasta: encode CDs to FLAC, and leave DVDs the way they are :)
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[10:28:00] jasta: When I get crunched for space, I have the option of encoding the DVDs I don't really care about :)
[10:29:00] kormoc: heh, yeah
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[10:32:00] jasta: anyway kormoc, nice talking to you but i need to sleep now :)
[10:32:00] jasta: night
[10:32:00] kormoc: nighty night!
[10:32:00] kormoc: nice talking to you as well
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[10:51:00] berbs: anybody with a gentoo based mythtv install with time for a few question?
[10:51:00] kormoc: such as?
[10:52:00] berbs: high load on the cpu that I am trying to figure out when watching TV
[10:52:00] kormoc: what's your video card?
[10:52:00] berbs: P4 3.2G
[10:52:00] berbs: nvidia geforce 6200 and pvr150
[10:52:00] kormoc: what driver version are you using?
[10:53:00] berbs: the latest 8xxx, used ~x86
[10:53:00] kormoc: that would be your issue
[10:53:00] berbs: any version that you would recommend or simply the stable one?
[10:53:00] kormoc: there is a bug with the 8xxx version nvidia drivers, when using opengl vsync (myth's default) with xv video, it eats up cpu
[10:53:00] kormoc: go back to 7676 to fix it
[10:53:00] berbs: will try that, thanks
[10:54:00] kormoc: no problems
[10:57:00] berbs: How can I find out if I am using the hardware encoder on the capture card and the hardware decoder (I want to believe there is one) on the nvidia video card?
[10:59:00] kormoc: xvmc is the hardware decoder, and it will only decode mpeg2 video
[10:59:00] kormoc: if you get tv picture, you are using the tv card's hardware encoder
[10:59:00] kormoc: just enable the xvmc in the frontned and you'll use the videocards decoder
[11:00:00] berbs: I'll double check the options to see if it's checked by default
[11:04:00] berbs: thx
[11:04:00] kormoc: np
[11:05:00] damian666: anyone got ever the winmyth thing running ?
[11:05:00] kormoc: no
[11:05:00] kormoc: it's out dated and not under active development
[11:06:00] damian666: kormoc: ok thanks alot then further investigation on that is senseless:( is there any way to bring the live-tv feature on a windows machine ?
[11:06:00] kormoc: not really
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[12:04:00] t00m: when I start X, my mouse looks like a 20 lines with random width in a alltogether shape of a square. and it looks like it's acting like a transparency thing, cause i think i can see bits of the console where the mouse pointer currently is
[12:04:00] t00m: anyone had that before?
[12:05:00] t00m: it's protocol Auto
[12:05:00] t00m: usb mouse
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[12:32:00] shingoki: Can anyone tell me whey mythdvd works fine, but then when I press 0 to rip it just goes back to saying it has no jobs?
[12:32:00] shingoki: oh its ok I think I worked it out
[12:35:00] shingoki: no I didn't
[12:35:00] shingoki: yes I did
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[12:46:00] psofa: how do i backup the database?
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[12:48:00] psofa: nm found it
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[12:50:00] Moodles: I have a twinhan dvb-t, what drivers do I need to get linux to know its there? I run ubuntu
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[12:59:00] Moodles: Do I need to install a driver or what?
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[13:03:00] Moodles: I go to capture card setup, choose "Digital Video Broadcast card (DVB)", I try card numbers 0 to 3 and Card Name just says "Could not open card #0", same with 1,2&3
[13:06:00] t00m: nice
[13:06:00] t00m: got a secound frontend running
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[13:07:00] t00m: now it needs audio :/
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[13:20:00] aep: hi
[13:21:00] psofa: is there a frontend for windows?
[13:22:00] aep: can somebody explain to me how i set the channels?
[13:22:00] aep: wen i click on "watch TV" theres a black screen and after a while it segfaults. ( i didnt set any channel couse i dont know how)
[13:23:00] Moodles: press numbers 1–9 to select channels
[13:24:00] aep: nothing happens
[13:24:00] psofa: aep
[13:24:00] aep: hm?
[13:24:00] psofa: are you watching dvb
[13:24:00] psofa: ?
[13:25:00] aep: nope
[13:25:00] aep: analog with bttv
[13:25:00] psofa: no idea then :)
[13:25:00] aep: but in xawtv i had to set "grab video from flat" or something sounding like that
[13:26:00] laga: you should be fine after you set your channels.
[13:27:00] aep: ok. but _how_ can i set the channels
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[13:27:00] laga: aep: i already told you where you could read up on it.
[13:28:00] aep: laga: oh. i tryed it in the german wiki and didnt find it . ok thx :D
[13:28:00] psofa: btw if i had a second frontend would i be able to watch livetv? does the backend stream the livetv to the frontend?
[13:28:00] laga: aep: it's there in the german wiki. i was one of the authors.
[13:28:00] laga: psofa: yep
[13:28:00] aep: laga: where?
[13:28:00] psofa: thats nice
[13:28:00] psofa: :D
[13:29:00] aep: got it. misspelled it. sorry
[13:29:00] laga: aep: http://www.mythwiki.de/index.php/HOWTO_Mythfilldatabase
[13:30:00] laga: hehe :)
[13:36:00] aep: "bttv0: OCERR @ 0b8ae014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW OCERR*" its flooding my console :(
[13:38:00] laga: have you set your channels?
[13:38:00] aep: yes
[13:39:00] aep: i have to restart
[13:39:00] aep: (cant unload)
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[13:42:00] t00m: is there a mythtv cheatsheet?
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[13:42:00] laga: t00m: keys.txt? ;)
[13:43:00] t00m: which dir?
[13:43:00] laga: mythtv tarball
[13:43:00] t00m: mhh
[13:44:00] t00m: strange
[13:44:00] t00m: i'm sure i've got mythtv installed but the work directory doesn't exist
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[13:50:00] aep: back
[13:50:00] aep: did i post the error from bttv?
[13:51:00] aep: with xawtv everything works perfect
[13:52:00] aep: but if i try to use mythtv it segfaults or brings crazy errors
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[13:58:00] aep: ok i will start it again now and post the errors
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[13:58:00] laga: aep: it's possible that the resolution in your recording profile is wrong.
[13:59:00] aep: Aaigain please. the segfault floodet the console
[14:00:00] laga: aep: it's possible that the resolution in your recording profile is wrong.
[14:01:00] aep: laga: what profile?
[14:01:00] laga: your recording profile.
[14:01:00] aep: hm.. i'll look what that means
[14:01:00] laga: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-10.html
[14:02:00] laga: or you could just read the documentation instead of wasting our time
[14:02:00] shingoki: how do I get mythdvd to deinterlace on transcode?
[14:03:00] t00m: is there another site that is trying to collect myth themes than http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythThemes ?
[14:03:00] aep: i have read gthe documentation hundret times and it says just nothing about setting channels manual or segfaults
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[14:04:00] laga: aep: NOTE: although the width and height can be changed to almost anything, if you start MythTV and don't see video or you get "segmentation fault" errors, it is likely that the video4linux (v4l) subsystem did not like the height and width parameters specified. It's best to leave the default as-is until you're sure that MythTV is operational.
[14:05:00] aep: thank you for helping.
[14:05:00] aep: bye
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[14:06:00] psofa: does myth support dvb subtitltes?
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[14:07:00] laga: psofa: i don't think, but frank muenchow (sp?) is working on it. look at the tickets in trac
[14:07:00] psofa: k ty
[14:07:00] psofa: can i switch audio at least?
[14:08:00] laga: yep. '+' or choose the right audio stream in the OSD ('m')
[14:08:00] t00m: hm
[14:08:00] psofa: nice thank you
[14:08:00] t00m: google tells me that there is or was a 'liquid' theme for myth
[14:08:00] t00m: but i can't find it
[14:09:00] t00m: and i might not yet be ready to create my own aqua theme..
[14:09:00] Moodles: if anyone has a twinhan dvb-t card, here's how to get linux to detect it:
[14:09:00] Moodles: > modprobe dvb-bt8xx
[14:09:00] Moodles: > modprobe dst
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[14:32:00] shingoki: damn, you leave mythtv alone 5 seconds and it just falls to pieces
[14:32:00] shingoki: I see it's sTILL not really ready for serious use :(
[14:32:00] laga: use MCE then.
[14:33:00] shingoki: I'm sure that is crap too :)
[14:33:00] bluegolem: Hi, I have a DVB card and a PVR-250 (connected to a NTL box) and want to get mythtv to use the channels that appear on both cards, do you know how to?
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: shingoki: Maybe in your configuration and hands. Mine is extremely stable
[14:34:00] shingoki: GreyFoxx, it's just a default install on ubuntu, and it has no clue where the channels are, or what they mean
[14:34:00] shingoki: GreyFoxx, MythDVD doesn't seem to have an option to deinterlace, and it keeps crashing
[14:35:00] GreyFoxx: shingoki: That is a configuration thing, and mythdvd (by default) calls an external player app and you can pass it any arguments you want, depending on the player that includes deinterlacing
[14:35:00] shingoki: GreyFoxx, yeah but if you say that, then everything is a configuration thing
[14:35:00] shingoki: it's not my fault the configuration is so complex
[14:35:00] GreyFoxx: the internal player would deinterlace based on your regular myth settings in that regard but fewpeople use that for dvd's as it's not nearly finished
[14:36:00] GreyFoxx: shingoki: Everything is a configuration thing
[14:36:00] bluegolem: I have read that I should have both cards on the same video source, but I cant as the pvr needs channel numbers for ntl, but the dvb card needs different ones. Can anyone help?
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[14:36:00] shingoki: GreyFoxx, I'm mainly after transcoding, I think if I ignore mythdvd if it is not finished, and sort out the channel thing, I may be ok
[14:37:00] shingoki: GreyFoxx, the channel thing is really confusing me though
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[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: shingoki: DEscribe the problem , if anyone can offer help they will
[14:39:00] GreyFoxx: There are several UK visitors who come in here, though I have no idea if they are here
[14:39:00] bluegolem: I'm from the Uk.
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[14:44:00] redgolem: Hi guys & gals
[14:45:00] redgolem: anyone got a backend with a pvr-250 AND a dvb card in?
[14:47:00] redgolem: Merry xmas everyone
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[14:57:00] psofa: im having a serious problem
[14:57:00] psofa: myth tries directfb
[14:57:00] psofa: why would it do that
[14:57:00] psofa: i want xv
[14:58:00] GreyFoxx: what is it saying? You compiled it with directfb sjupport ?
[14:58:00] psofa: maybe
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[14:58:00] psofa: but it should choose xv
[14:58:00] psofa: as when launcing it
[14:58:00] psofa: im on X
[14:58:00] shingoki: ah thanks, well the problem is that the default uk altnerative tv grab thing doesn't get me any listings
[14:58:00] GreyFoxx: "what is it saying"
[14:59:00] shingoki: I'm using DVB from a Nova card
[14:59:00] psofa: it opens directfb
[14:59:00] shingoki: I have a load of channels I can tune to, but no schedules for them
[14:59:00] psofa: it fails to set panning display or sth
[14:59:00] psofa: and it dies
[15:00:00] ** GreyFoxx sighs and gives up. I have no patience for pulling info out of people **
[15:00:00] psofa: ?
[15:00:00] psofa: i dont want it to start directfb
[15:01:00] Moodles: i've got my dvb-t card working, whats a good program to scan for scannels, im not too sure if my banged up antennae works at alll
[15:01:00] psofa: how do i choose xv output for livetv
[15:02:00] psofa: it isnt the whole frontend that dies
[15:02:00] psofa: just when trying to watch livetv
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[15:03:00] redgolem: shingoki, have you switched to the terminal when you first run it from mythtv-setup? as the grabber gets output from the terminal
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[15:03:00] psofa: GreyFoxx, ?
[15:04:00] redgolem: moodles, i have a nova t dvb card working, it is best to use tzap to get the channels scanned first. Then mess with mythtv
[15:04:00] shingoki: redgolem, yes, I switched to that and told it "all"
[15:04:00] Moodles: redgolem: is tzap bundled in that package from linuxtv.org?
[15:05:00] redgolem: a good tutorial on checking dvb works and then setting it up in mythtv is: http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html
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[15:05:00] redgolem: moodles, i dont knw about tzap, i use ubuntu and do apt-get install
[15:06:00] redgolem: what distro are you using moodles?
[15:06:00] shingoki: In my program guide, I have a load of channels with no names, and no contents, then some with no names but contents, and some which seem to be the real channels, which have name and contents
[15:07:00] shingoki: its a bit screwed up, is there a way to just clear the guide out, but keep the real physical channels?
[15:07:00] Moodles: redgolem: ubuntu
[15:07:00] redgolem: tzap on ubuntu is in dvb-utils package, so you can use apt-get install dvb-utils
[15:08:00] redgolem: definitely follow the tutorial i just mentioned, it will be perfect for ubuntu or debian based users
[15:08:00] Moodles: cool
[15:09:00] shingoki: I found this one very useful: http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[15:10:00] redgolem: shinoki, do you have any links talking about scheduling same channels from two cards?
[15:10:00] shingoki: I didn't do any of that rebuilding stuff, and it all works fine apart from odd channels, which I am forced to adimt must be my configuration :)
[15:10:00] shingoki: redgolem, nope sorry
[15:11:00] redgolem: shingoki, yeah your link does pretty much the same as ehtics-gradient.net
[15:11:00] Moodles: i have dvb-utils installed, i type tzap nothing happens, i assume i have to go to the /lib folder or something
[15:11:00] redgolem: moodles, to find tzap, do locate tzap
[15:12:00] redgolem: usr/bin/tzap
[15:12:00] Moodles: im still very fresh to ubuntu
[15:12:00] Moodles: well linux in gernal
[15:13:00] redgolem: Moodles, thats ok, everyone starts that way ;)
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[15:17:00] Moodles: is scan -c the right usage to get channel list?
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[15:18:00] unkle: hi everybody !
[15:18:00] unkle: ...
[15:19:00] redgolem: moodles, i didnt use -c, I simply outputted the channel list to a file with something like: sudo scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/uk-WinterHill > /root/.tzap/channels.conf
[15:19:00] redgolem: you mayt need to try a few different trnasmitters, by looking through the ones in examples/scan/dvb-t/
[15:20:00] Moodles: ah
[15:20:00] Moodles: I found mine, au-Adelaide
[15:20:00] unkle: using the wiki on mythtv i finally got a connection from my remote frontend to the backends database. However, the frontend keeps exiting to previous menu when trying to watch tv or recorded programs. Does anyone have an idea about a solution to this problem ? (in the mythbackend.log there seems to be now problems, it records "mythtv" (the frontend) as a client)
[15:21:00] redgolem: so, if you open the resulting channels.conf, is it filled?
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[15:25:00] Moodles: its running now
[15:25:00] Moodles: tuning failed, I assume my broken aeriel doesn't pick anything up
[15:26:00] Moodles: i did pick it up out of my bid earlier :P
[15:26:00] redgolem: Moodles, did you change the uk-WinterHills to au-Adelaide in the command? what user are you running as?
[15:27:00] Moodles: normal user
[15:27:00] Moodles: i sudo'd it now
[15:27:00] Moodles: and plugged aerial in better, still tuning failed
[15:27:00] redgolem: could you paste the scan command in full
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[15:29:00] Moodles-: poseidon@atari:~$ sudo scan au-Adelaide
[15:29:00] Moodles-: scanning au-Adelaide
[15:29:00] Moodles-: using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
[15:29:00] Moodles-: initial transponder 226500000 1 3 0 3 1 1 0
[15:29:00] Moodles-: initial transponder 177500000 1 2 0 3 1 2 0
[15:29:00] Moodles-: initial transponder 191625000 1 3 0 3 1 1 0
[15:29:00] Moodles-: initial transponder 219500000 1 3 0 3 1 1 0
[15:29:00] Moodles-: initial transponder 564500000 1 2 0 3 1 2 0
[15:29:00] Moodles-: >>> tune to: 226500000:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_7_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_NONE:QAM_64:TRANSMISSION_MO DE_8K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_16:HIERARCHY_NONE
[15:29:00] Moodles-: WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
[15:29:00] laga: thanks for flooding
[15:29:00] Moodles: np
[15:31:00] Moodles: i might try a coathanger
[15:31:00] redgolem: moodles, i'm not sure how many transmitters there are in Au (as im in uk), could it be you need to try another?
[15:34:00] redgolem: also, what aerial are you using? Coz, the portable ones on your tv dont work too well.
[15:35:00] Moodles: my coathanger has found a channel
[15:36:00] redgolem: hehe
[15:36:00] Moodles: yes it found all my channels
[15:36:00] shingoki: wow
[15:36:00] redgolem: sorted ;)
[15:37:00] Moodles: i have 5 metre extension cord, going out my window, it is attached to the gutter with a coathanger in it
[15:38:00] shingoki: ok so how do I get rid of the craziness in my schedule and start from scratch?
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[15:38:00] redgolem: so moodles, assuming you arent taking the mickey, you are fixed? ;)
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[15:39:00] Moodles: well i know it works in linux, so now its time to play configure mythtv
[15:39:00] redgolem: if you are using mythtv greater than 0.17 you can use the new dvb scan in the channel editor.
[15:40:00] redgolem: simply add a capture card (choose dvb) in the capture page of mythtv-setup prog
[15:41:00] redgolem: then add a new video source in the 'video source page' -choose an 'au' grabber
[15:41:00] redgolem: then go into the channel editor and press the 'scan' button
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[15:42:00] redgolem: this will bring up a number of boxs to fill in, I then opened the channels.conf file and took the values from one of the lines (BBC ONE in my case)
[15:42:00] redgolem: Then (hopefully) myth will find all your channels
[15:43:00] redgolem: That should keep you busy for the rest of the day ;)
[15:44:00] shingoki: that's where my problems started, with the channels being wrong
[15:44:00] Moodles: ubuntu has 0.18, but i dont see a scan option
[15:45:00] shingoki: Moodles, you need to connect a video source to a tuner first I think
[15:45:00] redgolem: if you go into the channel editor, the button is at the bottom of the screen
[15:45:00] shingoki: then you cans can for channels
[15:45:00] shingoki: are you on breezy?
[15:45:00] redgolem: also, the mythtv packages might not have dvb enabled (configure --enable-dvb)
[15:46:00] redgolem: but, i think the breezy package do have it enabled
[15:46:00] shingoki: mine seem to
[15:46:00] Moodles: Ah no, I go to cappture card setup and card type says "Device of resource busy", I had to reboot to get it to go away last time
[15:46:00] Moodles: *or
[15:46:00] shingoki: my mythtv is all just ubuntu packages and stock kernel, and it works fine except for channels and mythdvd
[15:47:00] redgolem: thats because tzap is using it, do a pgrep tzap and then kill <id>
[15:47:00] shingoki: maybe kill the scan and stuff
[15:47:00] shingoki: yup
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[15:48:00] redgolem: does the capture card section mention your card name correctly? I take it you are using device 0?
[15:48:00] Moodles: it mentions it correctly, ive had mythtv setup the whole time
[15:49:00] redgolem: to be safe, kill scan/tzap and then restart the mythbackend + frontend. then retry.
[15:49:00] Moodles: i did pgrep tzap and pgrep scan, both showed nothing
[15:50:00] Moodles: how do I list processes
[15:50:00] redgolem: top
[15:50:00] Moodles: can I scroll down?
[15:51:00] redgolem: Im sorry to say thism but i have to go, family stuff ;(
[15:51:00] redgolem: Hopefully shingoki can help.
[15:52:00] redgolem: sometimes the card can get in a bad state and a reboot is needed (as a last case scenario)
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[15:58:00] shingoki: yeah reboot might be a good idea
[15:58:00] shingoki: Moodles, are you using plain ubuntu kernel?
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[16:09:00] Moodles: i think im one version up, when i installed the nvidia drivers, it downloads the newest kernal
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[16:29:00] Moodles: ERROR: failed opening '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' <- whats the fix for this, I'm trying to do: tzap -r "Nine"
[16:29:00] shingoki: ah I had that
[16:29:00] shingoki: um...
[16:29:00] shingoki: I think it means something is running
[16:29:00] shingoki: maybe the myth backend?
[16:30:00] Moodles: nope
[16:30:00] Moodles: I did a fresh reboot
[16:30:00] Moodles: could it be the 2 modprobe things I load at startup
[16:31:00] shingoki: Moodles, are you running on a fresh install?
[16:31:00] Moodles: modprobe dst and modprobe dvb-bt8xx
[16:31:00] shingoki: what card do you have?
[16:31:00] Moodles: I would not say it is fresh at all, im a developer so I've installed practically every lib*
[16:31:00] shingoki: oh ok
[16:31:00] Moodles: twinhan dvb-t
[16:32:00] shingoki: Well... if you get really desparate, I've got a hauppauge nova-t, and it works without any fiddling on normal kernel
[16:32:00] shingoki: not sure about anything else :(
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[16:33:00] Fitzsimmons: hi
[16:34:00] Moodles: is there a way to unload modprobes?
[16:35:00] Fitzsimmons: rmmod
[16:35:00] laga: rmmod <module>
[16:35:00] Fitzsimmons: is datadirect not working for anyone else?
[16:36:00] Fitzsimmons: it is my first time trying to use it and I can't tell if the service is down or if I'm doing something wrong
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[16:38:00] Moodles: turns out my "startup" commands weren't working, I just sudo modprobe dvb-bt8xx
[16:38:00] Moodles: and tzap is working fine now
[16:38:00] Fitzsimmons: what's tzap?
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[16:40:00] psofa: is there any good way to adjust my channel list
[16:41:00] Moodles: locks onto a digital stream, so you can use xine/mplayer to watch it
[16:41:00] Moodles: im just following this: http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[16:41:00] psofa: the standard channel editor in mythtv seems impractical
[16:41:00] sPiN: Fitzsimmons: got www.zap2it.com and try login with your u/p
[16:41:00] Moodles: psofa: do you want to scan for the channels yourself?
[16:41:00] psofa: nope
[16:41:00] psofa: i already have the channels
[16:41:00] psofa: but its tons of them i dont want
[16:41:00] psofa: some arab crap etc
[16:42:00] Fitzsimmons: sPiN: that works, it is grabbing it with mythtv that doesn't work
[16:42:00] Moodles: you could vi the channels.conf, and remove the ones you dont want
[16:42:00] Fitzsimmons: it says the auth is bad every time
[16:42:00] Fitzsimmons: but I've double checked the username and password...
[16:42:00] Fitzsimmons: I've even tried it myself manually, it also fails
[16:43:00] DarkBeer: Fitzsimmons, it's http://labs.zap2it.com
[16:43:00] psofa: Oo does it use a channels conf?
[16:43:00] GreyFoxx: no
[16:43:00] psofa: i though the channs are in the database
[16:43:00] GreyFoxx: they are
[16:43:00] psofa: okay
[16:43:00] psofa: then how do i edit them fast
[16:43:00] psofa: like swap numbers etc
[16:44:00] GreyFoxx: You already know
[16:44:00] GreyFoxx: the channel editor
[16:44:00] Fitzsimmons: what the hell, where in the docs do they tell you that DarkBeer
[16:44:00] GreyFoxx: Or you could also look at the channel editor stuff in mythweb
[16:44:00] DarkBeer: Fitzsimmons, they were in the docs I read :P
[16:45:00] Fitzsimmons: what's a certificate code? =/
[16:45:00] GreyFoxx: Fitzsimmons: In the "Configuring the Zap2It.com DataDirect service" Secitons maybe ?
[16:47:00] Fitzsimmons: eh?
[16:47:00] DarkBeer: section 5.3
[16:47:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3
[16:47:00] DarkBeer: oh, THOSE docs....;)
[16:48:00] Fitzsimmons: thanks guys
[17:00:00] Fitzsimmons: sigh
[17:00:00] Fitzsimmons: I still can't auth
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[17:05:00] Fitzsimmons: sigh, this is not going well
[17:05:00] Fitzsimmons: fedora is probably the wrong distribution
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[17:10:00] DarkBeer: fedora worked fine here. are you following jarod's howto?
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[17:18:00] t00m: there is no such thing like distmencoder, is it?
[17:19:00] redline-: afternoon all, anyone have any suggestions of a good sound card for use with myth and a 7.1 tuner?
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[17:21:00] a1fa: soundblaster?
[17:21:00] t00m: get a 7.1 soundcard
[17:21:00] a1fa: haha
[17:21:00] a1fa: :)
[17:21:00] a1fa: my mythtv box is still down
[17:22:00] redline-: soundblaster or another brand, im looking for something with very well known support for linux
[17:23:00] redline-: audigy 2 zs?
[17:23:00] shingoki: It must be possible to get valid freeview listings in the UK
[17:23:00] jalex: soundblaster live 24bit works great for me
[17:23:00] shingoki: Can I get it from DVB card?
[17:23:00] jalex: and cheeep
[17:23:00] jalex: might only be 5.1
[17:24:00] redline-: im thinkin audigy 2 casue of the 7.1
[17:24:00] redline-: easy to install jalex?
[17:24:00] jalex: the 24bit works out-of-the box
[17:24:00] redline-: I havent bought a sound card sin AC 96 standrds came out
[17:25:00] jalex: I only bought the sb live 24b because my integrated card didn't have midi
[17:25:00] redline-: amd kIII 400
[17:25:00] jalex: and i bought a midi keyboard
[17:26:00] jalex: I remember the k3 hehe..before AMD really convinced me they were good
[17:26:00] redline-: yea i was on their bandwagon early
[17:26:00] redline-: I still have all my chips too
[17:26:00] redline-: have kII's
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[17:27:00] jalex: awesome. I stopped buying intel after the p3 450 and never turned back, unless it was a laptop for my wife
[17:27:00] redline-: Last intel I bought was a PII Celeron 300 MHz that overclocked to 504 mhz on my old BX board
[17:28:00] redline-: afk gonna check anandtech and ebay for prices
[17:29:00] jalex: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutoria . . . e.html#SOUND "Linux supports the the EMU10K1 audio processor (kernel module emu10k1.o) based Sound Blaser line which includes Value, MP3+, X-Gamer and Platnum versions."
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[17:31:00] jalex: ound Blaster. Audigy. 2 ZS Gamer Limited Edition – 70SB035000017 » for $89.99 at Buy.com
[17:31:00] jalex: http://www.deals2buy.com/
[17:34:00] t00m: wow, that's nice: # time dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=100 of=foo
[17:34:00] t00m: real 0m0.869s
[17:34:00] sPiN: http://ww.phpfi.com/93348
[17:35:00] jalex: t00m, what are you testing?
[17:35:00] jalex: i/o?
[17:35:00] t00m: just curious how much longer it takes when i mount nfs with sync
[17:35:00] t00m: and then i wanted to know how fast it is local
[17:36:00] t00m: took 8secs to write 25M over sync nfs and 2 over async nfs
[17:36:00] sPiN: anyone have any guesses why that compile fails? i compiled myth just fine, and im trying to compile the mythplugins
[17:37:00] jalex: sPiN, missing a lot of the kde includes
[17:37:00] jalex: otherwise not sure..I used rpms
[17:37:00] sPiN: ahhh... so just install some kde devel packages
[17:37:00] sPiN: thanks jalex
[17:38:00] jalex: kdelibs-devel provides a lot of those on my fedora system
[17:39:00] a1fa: http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf00493ks.jpg
[17:39:00] a1fa: here you go kids ;)
[17:39:00] a1fa: dont ride your bikes w/o leathers
[17:40:00] laga: that was disgusting. thank you very much.
[17:40:00] a1fa: thanks man
[17:40:00] a1fa: it hurts like a bitch
[17:41:00] a1fa: like my secxy legz?
[17:41:00] Krazylegz: Legz.
[17:42:00] a1fa: :)
[17:42:00] a1fa: hhaha
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[17:49:00] jalex: nice legs
[17:49:00] jalex: not too bad
[17:49:00] jalex: I have seen some more interesting cases, but the subjects were not still alive =)
[17:49:00] t00m: not enough colours
[17:50:00] jalex: I smacked my bare knee in the back of a taurus once, took out the tail lights and cracked the quarter panel and bumper good
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[17:50:00] jalex: I think the bike hit the bumper, since I braked so hard
[17:51:00] a1fa: jalex: nice man
[17:51:00] a1fa: i found out what happened
[17:51:00] a1fa: i downshifted while leaning
[17:51:00] a1fa: and the rear wheel whooobled
[17:51:00] a1fa: and i laid the bike
[17:51:00] a1fa: at that time
[17:52:00] jalex: haha, I always turned with my knee on the ground as low as the bike could lean.
[17:52:00] jalex: didn't have problems as long as the tires were warm
[17:52:00] a1fa: hehe
[17:52:00] a1fa: jalex: the engine and the tires were cold last night
[17:52:00] a1fa: i just took it around the block
[17:52:00] jalex: they were cold when I did it once =(...
[17:52:00] a1fa: did u fall?
[17:53:00] jalex: NoUse, I just stood up while it slid into the street
[17:53:00] jalex: s/NoUse/No/
[17:53:00] a1fa: i tried to stand up
[17:53:00] jalex: I was taking off from a stop sign
[17:53:00] a1fa: hehee
[17:53:00] jalex: my bike went through a little wear and tear.
[17:54:00] a1fa: hhee
[17:54:00] a1fa: i had a brand new ninja 250 :(
[17:54:00] a1fa: 06
[17:54:00] jalex: I had a new ducati 750 =)
[17:54:00] a1fa: its all f0cked up
[17:54:00] a1fa: nice
[17:55:00] jalex: this was in 200 though
[17:55:00] jalex: 2000. It wasn't messed up at all.
[17:55:00] jalex: except the taurus, that did it
[17:55:00] a1fa: :P
[17:55:00] a1fa: jalex: i need to straighten the gear shifter :P
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[17:57:00] jalex: insurance company replaced every scratched part and then I sold it. It looked and rode new. Without the fairing (monster 750), the exhaust takes all the damage.
[17:58:00] jalex: the factory pro jet kits really are nice hmmmmmmmmm. It sounded cool.
[17:58:00] a1fa: hehe
[17:58:00] a1fa: you got a bike now?
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[18:09:00] psofa: GreyFoxx, the channel editor is crap. for one when i delete a chanel i get to the begining of the list
[18:09:00] psofa: which is pretty painfull
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[18:12:00] psofa: and btw the audio is stuttering
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[18:13:00] psofa: not like skipping but as in on-off-on-off-....
[18:13:00] GreyFoxx: psofa: I do agree, it would be nice if it didn't reset the whole list
[18:13:00] psofa: can i edit the channel list through mythfrontend?
[18:14:00] psofa: or only mythtv-setup
[18:14:00] GreyFoxx: not that I'm aware
[18:14:00] psofa: damn
[18:14:00] psofa: thats also crap
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[18:14:00] GreyFoxx: mythtv-setup and there is some channel editor stuff in mythweb as I said earlier
[18:14:00] psofa: its the first time im using dvb-s
[18:14:00] psofa: so how im i supposed to know which chan i want if i dont try it
[18:14:00] psofa: :(
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: You telling me that your providor doesn't give you a list of channels availabnle to you ?
[18:15:00] psofa: its dvb-s
[18:15:00] psofa: i dont have a provider
[18:15:00] psofa: but 500 freetoair channels
[18:15:00] psofa: oO
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: If they are fta then whatis the problem ?
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[18:16:00] psofa: i must try them before i delete them one by one
[18:16:00] psofa: that means
[18:16:00] psofa: mythfrontend->mythtv-setup
[18:16:00] GreyFoxx: If they are FTA why do you have to try them ?>
[18:16:00] psofa: and so on
[18:17:00] psofa: bcause its a mess of 500 channels
[18:17:00] psofa: and i want to clean it up
[18:17:00] GreyFoxx: Ok, so you are generating work for yourself and bitching that it's not helping
[18:17:00] GreyFoxx: ok, np, as long as we know the why's
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[18:18:00] GreyFoxx: My first suggestions to save you some effort
[18:18:00] Cardoe: kormoc: around?
[18:18:00] GreyFoxx: would be to use a thing such as a pen and pencil, and go through all the channels BEFORE going into the editor. I hope to god you aren't doing them one at a time
[18:18:00] GreyFoxx: and second, whoever is broadcasting surely has a list of what channels are what
[18:18:00] psofa: obviously i wont do it :D
[18:18:00] GreyFoxx: and you could consult that to save you from trying the cfhannels
[18:19:00] psofa: i was just stating that the channel editor isnt handy
[18:19:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug*
[18:19:00] psofa: if i use mythweb
[18:19:00] psofa: can i have mythfrontend open at the same time?
[18:20:00] GreyFoxx: Of course
[18:20:00] psofa: thats what ill do then
[18:20:00] psofa: :D
[18:20:00] GreyFoxx: they have nothing to do with each other
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[18:20:00] GreyFoxx: you can also have mythtv-setup running at the same time as mythfrontend
[18:20:00] GreyFoxx: But after editing channels you should restart mythbackend of course
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[18:22:00] psofa: thanks for your time
[18:22:00] psofa: :D
[18:22:00] psofa: cu around
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[18:25:00] Molotov: what program would you recommend for windows to compress a nuv to xvid?
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[18:32:00] sPiN: http://ww.phpfi.com/93351 now i get an error about cannot find -lkhtml
[18:32:00] Fitzsimmons: haha, does windows have mencoder or ffmeg? :)
[18:33:00] sPiN: i installed all the kde devel packages and i searched and libkhtml is in kdelibs3 which i have installed but it still gives me taht error
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[18:48:00] Molotov: Fitzsimmons: haha, yes
[18:51:00] Krazylegz: I'm looking for some MythMusic advice. I want to move all of my music into there, but it doesn't all have ID3 tags. Should I just put it in there anyway? Should I first set good ID3 tags for each song?
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[19:31:00] jasta: Krazylegz: How is your music organized? Would it be practical to programmatically attach ID3 data?
[19:37:00] Krazylegz: I've always kept it in folders.
[19:37:00] Krazylegz: Artist/album/song is the heirarchy.
[19:37:00] laga: mythmusic can parse umm filesystem layout
[19:38:00] Krazylegz: I could produce something of an ID3 tag from that information, given that I know that information.
[19:38:00] jasta: Krazylegz: There is some utility already made for doing just that, I just can't remember the name.
[19:38:00] jasta: My friend used it once.
[19:38:00] Krazylegz: Hmm, okay.
[19:38:00] jasta: Krazylegz: You should really consider going the other way from now on, though.
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[19:38:00] Krazylegz: I've seen a few, but I'm wondering if I should just toss it in and let MythMusic have at it.
[19:38:00] jasta: I use utilities that read meta data and move them into my directory structure.
[19:39:00] jasta: Krazylegz: Personally, I'd tag them first for sanity sake.
[19:39:00] Krazylegz: Well, I don't get a lot of new stuff anymore.
[19:39:00] Krazylegz: Well, I could tag them, or I could sort them and remove ALL tags.
[19:39:00] jasta: removing the tags is not a sensible approach.
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[19:46:00] kl3zm4: mm
[19:46:00] kl3zm4: one weird thing with my newly installed mythbox
[19:46:00] kl3zm4: boxen
[19:47:00] kl3zm4: even though I'm changing the lircrc file inside ~/.mythtv/lircrc the keymapping inside mythfrontend doesn't change!!
[19:47:00] kl3zm4: getting crazy here
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[19:49:00] webfryer: is there a howto on the video editor
[19:49:00] webfryer: I can add cut points but I'm not sure what I do to make them actually cut
[19:49:00] webfryer: I quit out and it plays the video without the "cut" parts
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[19:50:00] webfryer: but then I can go into the editor, clear the cut parts and they're back
[19:50:00] webfryer: so they obviously never got removed
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[19:51:00] laga: webfryer: you'd have to transcode in order to physically remove them
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[19:53:00] webfryer: laga, thanks
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[20:20:00] Azariah101010: I need to automatically cut the commercials from my mythbox. I do not have it hooked to a monitor and VNC into the system. I watch the recorded shows over the network. I can record/convert into divx fine but I Need to cut the commercials. I have flag commercials check but I need to know how to get that into the cutlist.
[20:22:00] tdb30_: can someone tell me how to install mythtv on debian? The place with the deb packages doesn't seem to exist anymore. Is there a new link?
[20:22:00] laga: Azariah101010: check mythcommflag --help (or was it mythtranscode? anyways, one of those has an option to turn the commercial list into a cutlist. it may not be accurate, though)
[20:22:00] laga: tdb30_: yep! it's hosted on marillat now
[20:24:00] kahuna_: How stable is SVN with DVB these days?
[20:24:00] kahuna_: Is live TV working?
[20:25:00] laga: kahuna_: i hear DVB is working pretty well and livetv was re-enabled a few weeks ago, i think
[20:26:00] kahuna_: good
[20:26:00] kahuna_: looking pretty stable then I take it.
[20:26:00] laga: just get a backup for your mythconverg DB and try it
[20:27:00] kahuna_: I can't wait until the 0.19 release. I get impatient :) especially with all the release rumors around.
[20:27:00] Azariah101010: I ran mythcommflag -gencutlist and I get the there is not channel data...Put obviously there is...I recorded the program using it.
[20:28:00] laga: Azariah101010: can you show me your command line?
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[20:28:00] Azariah101010: Hold on I will need to ssh to the box from work.
[20:29:00] Molotov: i thought myth was like tivo in that aspect. i didnt realize that it was so hard to have it skip commercials
[20:30:00] laga: Molotov: he's talking about cutting them without having mythfrontend (i believe)
[20:30:00] Molotov: personally, i just skip ahead in 30sec increments when i watch a recorded show
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[20:30:00] laga: Molotov: so do i :). i set it to warn me before the commercials start. and then i skip to the end of the commercial and re-adjust it by skipping forth and back
[20:30:00] Molotov: laga: i thought he's talking about scheduling a recording and having myth stop capturing when a commercial break starts and then to resume when the actual show comes back on
[20:30:00] PickleS: Merry Xmass everyone, hope you had a good one
[20:31:00] laga: Molotov: that doesn't work.
[20:31:00] Molotov: how does it warn you about a commercial?
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[20:33:00] laga: something comes up on my screen and tells me that there will be commercials in three seconds or so
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[20:33:00] Azariah101010: No frontend...I usually convert them to divx then watch over mythweb at work...I have a php file that will convert/remove the file from the recorded database.
[20:33:00] Azariah101010: root@blackbox:~# mythcommflag --gencutlist
[20:33:00] Azariah101010: 2005-12–26 15:33:39.682 New DB connection, total: 1
[20:33:00] Azariah101010: No program data exists for channel root@blackbox:~#
[20:34:00] laga: Azariah101010: you need to pass it -c and -s, look at mythcommflag --help
[20:34:00] laga: i
[20:34:00] laga: i'm not sure if --infile would work, but it may be worth a try
[20:35:00] Azariah101010: Is there a way I can add a user script that will automatically supply the channel id?
[20:36:00] laga: what do you mean?
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[20:39:00] Molotov: doesnt it take many many hours to convert to divx?
[20:39:00] Molotov: and then how does he watch over mythweb?
[20:40:00] laga: he could do it in the background
[20:40:00] laga: to watch them over mythweb, take a look at mythstreamtv
[20:40:00] Molotov: i will, thanks
[20:40:00] Molotov: i just got my myth box up and running the other day
[20:41:00] laga: :)
[20:41:00] Molotov: it's a p3 1g w/512mb ram . i cant imagine how long it would take to encode 1 hour to divx. probably 10 hours
[20:41:00] laga: depends on your settings
[20:43:00] Molotov: now i definately have to setup mythweb
[20:43:00] Molotov: heh
[20:44:00] laga: mythweb is really nice
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[20:45:00] tdb30_: I'm trying to install mythtv using debian but I can't seem to get a good line to put in my sources.list
[20:45:00] Molotov: is there a recent version of it?
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[20:46:00] laga: tdb30_: it's hosted on marillat
[20:46:00] laga: Molotov: just get the 0.18.1 one
[20:48:00] kahuna_: Has anyone had good luck with AMD processors for HDTV? I'm thinking about upgrading.
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[20:50:00] tdb30_: where is marillat?
[20:50:00] laga: tdb30_: marillat.free.fr i believe
[20:50:00] tdb30_: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
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[20:50:00] tdb30_: thats what I had.
[20:51:00] laga: apt-get update? ;)
[20:52:00] tdb30_: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/uns . . . /Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21]
[20:53:00] Molotov: apt-get update
[20:54:00] Molotov: linux man's best friend
[20:55:00] tdb30_: that was apt-get update
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[21:02:00] jalex: apt is only a memory, fading in the distance.
[21:02:00] FunkyStickman: I've got a pointed question, if anyone can think after eating holiday treats...
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[21:10:00] FunkyStickman: nevermind.
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[21:10:00] \Grooby\_: hallo
[21:12:00] Krazylegz: Hallo.
[21:12:00] Krazylegz: Wie geht's?
[21:15:00] laga: o_O
[21:15:00] \Grooby\_: huh?
[21:15:00] \Grooby\_: i am chinese
[21:16:00] \Grooby\_: i don't speak umm...German?
[21:16:00] laga: right, it was german :)
[21:17:00] \Grooby\_: what does that mean?
[21:17:00] laga: wie geht's = how are you
[21:17:00] \Grooby\_: ahh ok
[21:17:00] \Grooby\_: wie = how?
[21:17:00] \Grooby\_: or wie = you?
[21:17:00] laga: wie = how :)
[21:17:00] laga: and '
[21:18:00] laga: gehen' = 'to go'
[21:18:00] \Grooby\_: so that's like "how goes it?"
[21:18:00] laga: yep
[21:18:00] laga: less colloquial, maybe
[21:18:00] \Grooby\_: "wie gehen?
[21:18:00] \Grooby\_: "
[21:19:00] laga: 'wie geht es dir' would be full phrase :)
[21:22:00] Krazylegz: Wie geht es Ihnen?
[21:22:00] Krazylegz: Since I don't know him.
[21:22:00] Krazylegz: Though, laga knows best. :-)
[21:23:00] laga: Krazylegz: you were right, but we usually use "du" on the intarweb ;)
[21:24:00] Krazylegz: Oh. Very good then.
[21:25:00] Krazylegz: He never answered the question.....
[21:25:00] laga: Krazylegz: such an impolite person
[21:25:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[21:26:00] laga: i'm not having much luck with computers today. my NIC won't work properly, i let the magic smoke out of a floppy drive and now my fresh kubuntu install won't boot
[21:26:00] laga: wait. it does, now. yay!
[21:26:00] bagpuss_thecat: anyone know why a slave would claim that it's connected to a master just fine, but mythweb shows that it is disconnected?
[21:28:00] \Grooby\_: hehehehe
[21:28:00] \Grooby\_: i am so confused
[21:28:00] Krazylegz: \Grooby\_: How are you? :-)
[21:28:00] \Grooby\_: so how was everyone's xmas?
[21:28:00] \Grooby\_: i'm doing ok
[21:28:00] \Grooby\_: just sitting here chilling out
[21:28:00] \Grooby\_: you?
[21:28:00] Krazylegz: Christmas was okay. Interesting, to say the least.
[21:29:00] \Grooby\_: hehehehe
[21:29:00] Krazylegz: Not a whole lot of work that I want to do today, so I'm spending the better part of the day reading.
[21:29:00] \Grooby\_: that's cool
[21:29:00] \Grooby\_: where do you work?
[21:29:00] Krazylegz: I work from home.
[21:29:00] \Grooby\_: ahhh ok
[21:29:00] \Grooby\_: that's cool
[21:29:00] \Grooby\_: consulting?
[21:30:00] Krazylegz: Contract worker.
[21:30:00] Krazylegz: So, sure, "consulting."
[21:30:00] \Grooby\_: ahh ok
[21:30:00] \Grooby\_: steady work?
[21:30:00] Krazylegz: Yes, for me.
[21:30:00] \Grooby\_: that's pretty good
[21:30:00] Krazylegz: I just have the one large client right now, really.
[21:31:00] \Grooby\_: i was doing "consulting" for about 3 yrs
[21:31:00] \Grooby\_: then one of my big client cut my hours down to 0
[21:31:00] \Grooby\_: so now I am going back to find a full time salary work
[21:31:00] \Grooby\_: while do "consulting" on the side for now
[21:32:00] Krazylegz: Ah, yeah. It can be nice....and it can suck when you can't find steady work.
[21:32:00] Krazylegz: Especially if you have obligations.
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[21:40:00] |Slurpee|: yo
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[21:47:00] \Grooby\_: sup slurpee
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[21:47:00] psofa: anyone willing to help me with mythweb
[21:47:00] psofa: im kinda lost
[21:47:00] psofa: what do i need to configure?
[21:48:00] psofa: ive installed mythweb and its dependencies
[21:48:00] psofa: the only thing i need running is apache right?
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[21:51:00] |Slurpee|: not much grooby
[21:51:00] |Slurpee|: finally got home for the holidays
[21:51:00] |Slurpee|: bout to start round #2 of building mythtv
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[22:04:00] Krazylegz: Any Russians in here?
[22:05:00] kormoc: Krazylegz, I have some russian vodka...
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[22:05:00] Krazylegz: So do I. Ivanabitch.
[22:06:00] kormoc: welp, there's your russian then!
[22:06:00] Krazylegz: That russian can't tell me if they get Lost over there.
[22:07:00] sPiN: i think im very close to getting the remote that came with my pvr 150 to work, i just need to figure out what goes in this ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[22:07:00] sPiN: it didnt seem to cover this in the setting up remote section of the docs, it just talked about compiling it...
[22:07:00] laga: sPiN: there are lots of example files :)
[22:08:00] sPiN: i installed lirc .7.2 from an rpm on suse 10, and then copied over the hauppage lircd.conf.hauppauge to /etc/lircd.conf
[22:08:00] sPiN: does what ive done so far sound good?
[22:08:00] laga: yep, why not. verify your lird.conf is working with 'irw'
[22:09:00] sPiN: ohh thanks
[22:09:00] sPiN: ohhh yes :)
[22:09:00] sPiN: its working
[22:10:00] sPiN: so where might i find these example files? i dont see any in .mythtv/
[22:10:00] laga: they are located in the configfiles/ directory in the mythtv tarball
[22:11:00] sPiN: ohhh thanks a lot laga :)
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[22:13:00] PickleS: hi
[22:14:00] PickleS: i've boon looking at the 4 input simultaneous DVR cards sold with some security cameras
[22:14:00] PickleS: does anyone (A) know what chipset they use?
[22:14:00] PickleS: does anyone (B) know if they are supported by linux?
[22:15:00] GreyFoxx: Lots of them have linux drivers but not released ones
[22:16:00] GreyFoxx: I know a local company that has several in their security system, and the servers/software is all linux based
[22:16:00] GreyFoxx: cept it's a totally closed system
[22:16:00] PickleS: good to knw
[22:16:00] PickleS: know even
[22:17:00] PickleS: hmm.. ok, so it's not like they are registered as 4 unique devices, like the pvr500 registers as 2 tuners
[22:17:00] PickleS: ?
[22:18:00] GreyFoxx: honestly I couldn't say.
[22:18:00] kormoc: they could be, or they might not
[22:18:00] PickleS: hehe, ty
[22:18:00] kormoc: PickleS, but as GreyFoxx said, the ones he knows about are closeded, so you would have to buy the software as well
[22:19:00] kormoc: and it's unlikely it would work with myth out of the box
[22:20:00] laga: i believe i've seen such cards with a bttv chipset.
[22:22:00] psofa: can someone help me with mythweb and apache?
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[22:22:00] PickleS: ty kormoc, laga, GreyFoxx
[22:22:00] kormoc: psofa, why don't you just ask your questions?
[22:22:00] kormoc: PickleS, no problems.
[22:22:00] psofa: was about to
[22:22:00] psofa: it was an introduction
[22:22:00] psofa: :D
[22:24:00] psofa: when i try to contact the server from the lan pc i cant.Its fine though when i try to open it from within the server
[22:24:00] kormoc: so it's bound to localhost and not the external ip address?
[22:24:00] psofa: seems so
[22:24:00] sPiN: well i no longer get an error about it not having a lircrc config, and irw still reads the cmds as hauppauge cmds and properly detects the button i pressed
[22:24:00] sPiN: but they do not do anything in mythtvfrontend
[22:24:00] kormoc: welp, just edit your apache config and change the ip it is bound to
[22:25:00] psofa: ServerName 192.168.1.4
[22:25:00] psofa: did it
[22:25:00] psofa: and nothing
[22:25:00] psofa: or you mean something else
[22:25:00] kormoc: and the apache logs say?
[22:25:00] sPiN: i copied the mythtv/configfiles/hauppauge-lircrc-nativelirc to ~/.mythtv/lircrc/
[22:26:00] Krazylegz: psofa: Listen 192.168.1.4
[22:26:00] Krazylegz: I think.
[22:26:00] Krazylegz: Crap, no. Don't listen to me.
[22:26:00] psofa: just did it
[22:26:00] psofa: too late
[22:26:00] psofa: let me try it
[22:26:00] Cromz: sPiN, you copied them to the file lircrc in ~/.mythtv or a directory?
[22:26:00] Krazylegz: Listen is for the port.
[22:26:00] jonK: spin, did you restart the lirc daemon after addding the lirc file?
[22:27:00] sPiN: Cromz: i copied that file into the ~/.mythtv/lircrc/ dir and kept its filename
[22:28:00] psofa: any ideas?
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[22:28:00] sPiN: and i just restarted the lircd again
[22:28:00] psofa: Listen didnt work
[22:28:00] psofa: as Krazylegz warned me
[22:29:00] DarkBeer: psofa, try telnet ip.of.your.mythbox 80 and see if it connects?
[22:29:00] psofa: ofc it does
[22:29:00] psofa: ssh is working anyway
[22:29:00] psofa: oh
[22:29:00] Cromz: sPiN, it should be a file in .mythtv not a dir. ;) make sure the button names match in lircd.conf and in that file.
[22:29:00] psofa: lemme see
[22:30:00] psofa: as i said it connects
[22:30:00] sPiN: DOH! i misread that, thanks a lot Cromz
[22:30:00] psofa: but wont display anything on telnet
[22:30:00] GreyFoxx: psofa: Just hit enter a couple times
[22:31:00] DarkBeer: yeah, just making sure the port was open and not a firewall issue
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[22:31:00] psofa: i get badrequest etc
[22:31:00] psofa: so apache responds
[22:32:00] psofa: its not a firewal issue
[22:32:00] psofa: i suppose
[22:32:00] DarkBeer: so does http://mythbox.ip/mythweb/ doesn't?
[22:32:00] psofa: none of these work
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[22:32:00] sPiN: wah000! it works! thanks guys!
[22:32:00] psofa: when trying to access them from the lan
[22:33:00] psofa: from the server it self though i can access them fine
[22:33:00] psofa: both
[22:33:00] psofa: hmmm
[22:33:00] psofa: http://thunderbird/
[22:33:00] psofa: worked
[22:33:00] DarkBeer: did you change your listen option back to just "80"
[22:33:00] psofa: wtf
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[22:34:00] psofa: why didnt it like the ip
[22:34:00] closer: anyone here an ivtv expert
[22:35:00] a1fa: debian kernel problems
[22:35:00] a1fa: god damn it
[22:35:00] closer: my pvr250 shows like 4 composite inputs... which is crazy
[22:35:00] closer: and 4 svideo inputs... none of which work
[22:36:00] GreyFoxx: That is/was quite common
[22:36:00] a1fa: what is
[22:36:00] a1fa: debian kernel bugs
[22:36:00] GreyFoxx: It is/was driver bugginess. I don't know if it's cleared up
[22:36:00] GreyFoxx: No, I'm referring to Closer
[22:37:00] closer: I've been searching wiki/archives/google and haven't found anything. I'm guessing it's wrong tuner typ
[22:37:00] psofa: DarkBeer, ??
[22:38:00] GreyFoxx: Almost everyone has had that problem.
[22:38:00] GreyFoxx: Mine shows the same
[22:38:00] closer: ah man. okay. well, I've got another firmware to try...
[22:38:00] closer: which is the correct one?
[22:38:00] GreyFoxx: As far as I know it's a driver bug, not a firmware bug
[22:38:00] DarkBeer: psofa?
[22:38:00] closer: all I get is black when I have a b/w camera plugged into composite and manually change input to 0–3 composite inputs
[22:38:00] GreyFoxx: but I don't reme mber what firmware version I'm using
[22:39:00] closer: the camera is know good and works fine in bt848 and tv directly.
[22:39:00] psofa: any idea about that?
[22:39:00] psofa: why cant i access it by ip
[22:39:00] psofa: and i can via hostname
[22:39:00] closer: anyone, the main problem is that I don't have connectivity at that location.
[22:40:00] a1fa: fucking debian kernel
[22:40:00] a1fa: why did i fucking update it
[22:40:00] closer: regarding mythtv, what do I need to download to lug there to get it setup besides the 3 main archives (including the themes)
[22:40:00] a1fa: oh, it wasnt me. it was that damn apt-get
[22:40:00] DarkBeer: hmm, not really, unless the ip you're using is different than the one the hostname is resolving to. I'm not an expert in that stuff by any means
[22:40:00] a1fa: why did they even put a fuxeored kernel out there
[22:40:00] closer: I've got alot of libs available... all the mplayer and support source already
[22:41:00] kormoc: a1fa, give up on computers
[22:41:00] a1fa: lol
[22:41:00] a1fa: i gave up on motorcycles this morning
[22:41:00] a1fa: i aint giving up on these bitchers
[22:42:00] ** kormoc shakes his head sadly. **
[22:42:00] psofa: unfortunately thats not my only problem
[22:42:00] kormoc: but everyday you're in here bitching about this and that, and it's always a 'kernel bug' or what not that noone else has
[22:42:00] kormoc: sounds like your Karma is foobared.
[22:42:00] DarkBeer: he's special :)
[22:42:00] psofa: i only get sth like a listing of the files in the server
[22:43:00] psofa: not a nice page
[22:43:00] kormoc: psofa, you might not have php installed
[22:43:00] a1fa: kormoc: its a debian bug
[22:43:00] a1fa: its documented
[22:43:00] a1fa: 2.6.14-2-<arch>
[22:43:00] psofa: i have
[22:43:00] kormoc: as was the one last week and the one the week before?
[22:43:00] psofa: as i installed this from an ebuild
[22:43:00] a1fa: last weeks
[22:43:00] kormoc: psofa, if it was, then index.php should come up
[22:44:00] psofa: the thing is that i dont know how to relate those 2
[22:44:00] psofa: apache and php
[22:44:00] kormoc: how did you install php?
[22:44:00] psofa: no idea
[22:44:00] psofa: the abuild did that
[22:44:00] psofa: ebuild
[22:45:00] kormoc: did you enable it in /etc/conf.d/apache2 ?
[22:45:00] psofa: nope
[22:45:00] kormoc: well, that would be an issue.
[22:45:00] psofa: i suppose it would
[22:45:00] psofa: :D
[22:45:00] psofa: but how do i enable it
[22:46:00] kormoc: you could have read the instructions that the ebuild gives you, but in the interest of time, add in a -D PHP5 to the apache2_opts line
[22:46:00] kormoc: assuming you are using php5 that is
[22:46:00] psofa: well i didnt know that you knew exaclty
[22:46:00] psofa: so im here
[22:46:00] psofa: APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST"
[22:46:00] psofa: what should i change that to
[22:47:00] psofa: APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D PHP5"
[22:47:00] psofa: ?
[22:47:00] kormoc: that would be what I said, aye.
[22:47:00] kormoc: assmuming you are using php version 5+
[22:47:00] psofa: its 4 btw
[22:48:00] kormoc: then it's eather -D PHP4 or just -D PHP
[22:48:00] kormoc: I beleive it'd just -D PHP
[22:48:00] kormoc: but it could be the other
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[22:49:00] psofa: so theres no problem with 2 "-D"
[22:50:00] psofa: if thats correct then i might add that i dont see anything
[22:50:00] psofa: with both PHP and PHP4
[22:50:00] kormoc: my apache2_opts is -D PHP5 -D USERDIR -D INFO -D SSL, so no, there is no issue with -D
[22:51:00] kormoc: psofa, did you install dev-lang/php or dev-php/php?
[22:51:00] psofa: dev-php
[22:51:00] psofa: anyway the ebuild did that correctly i suppose
[22:52:00] kormoc: not preticullarly
[22:52:00] kormoc: you need to install dev-php/mod_php I beleive
[22:52:00] psofa: whats that package's role
[22:53:00] psofa: im asking so that i can figure out whats going on
[22:53:00] psofa: :d
[22:53:00] kormoc: you installed dev-lang/php which is the command line interface of php
[22:53:00] kormoc: dev-lang/mod_php is the apache module interface for php
[22:53:00] kormoc: erm
[22:53:00] laga: and what's dev-php/php ?
[22:53:00] kormoc: dev-php/mod_php is the apache modules interface of php
[22:53:00] kormoc: dev-php/php is the command line interface, sorry
[22:54:00] laga: and dev-lang/php
[22:54:00] kormoc: dev-lang/php is a ebuild that can build both into one
[22:54:00] kormoc: for example
[22:54:00] laga: oh, good.
[22:54:00] ** laga snickers **
[22:54:00] kormoc: my dev-lang/php uses +apache +cli +cgi, which builds all three interface styles in one package
[22:54:00] kormoc: laga, yeah, I don't type too well at times :P
[22:56:00] a1fa: what kernel are you guys running?
[22:56:00] kormoc: 2.6.15-r6
[22:57:00] laga: 2.2.18
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[22:57:00] GreyFoxx: a mixture of 2.6.12.5 and 2.6.13.3
[22:58:00] laga: frame-by-frame seeking is broken in current SVN. which really sucks for making cutlist
[22:58:00] GreyFoxx: what svn version are you running ?
[22:58:00] laga: 8381
[22:58:00] laga: there's already a ticket, though. #868
[22:58:00] laga: well, i believe that this is the issue i'm talking aboiut
[22:59:00] GreyFoxx: 8375 here and it "seems" to work... I made a cutlist for the show I'm watch now. Gonna try the mpeg2->mpeg2 transcoding stuff in a sec
[22:59:00] laga: Ticket #868: [8350] breaks mpeg2 decoding during frame advance
[22:59:00] laga: so it's possible you're affected, too
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[23:00:00] GreyFoxx: could be. it seemed to work well enough for what I'm doing
[23:00:00] GreyFoxx: gonna try the transcoding once the show is over
[23:01:00] kormoc: Does anyone know who wrote the countwatched.pl?
[23:01:00] laga: it took me some time to actually notice it. let's just hope it will be fixed soon before someone else notices :)
[23:01:00] GreyFoxx: kormoc: I did
[23:01:00] GreyFoxx: haven't run since heh
[23:02:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, heh, coolness. I wrote a similar one in php and I'm gonna interface it into mythweb when I get the chance. Thanks for the idea
[23:02:00] GreyFoxx: cool :)
[23:02:00] kormoc: I added in Most/Least Viewed Series and Most/Least Viewed Channel
[23:03:00] GreyFoxx: nifty
[23:03:00] kormoc: but ya, I wanted to give props to you tho for the original idea :)
[23:03:00] GreyFoxx: heh thx
[23:04:00] laga: GreyFoxx: looks like more stuff is broken. when i skip 0.5seconds back and forth, i'll end up at seeing a different frame ;)
[23:04:00] GreyFoxx: laga: Actually I did have something weird like that happen
[23:04:00] psofa: nod_php is installed
[23:04:00] psofa: already
[23:05:00] psofa: mod
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[23:09:00] psofa: kormoc, do you know how can i make apache more verbose on logs?
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[23:15:00] kormoc: psofa, no, but google does
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[23:17:00] a1fa: aight gius
[23:17:00] a1fa: anybody have .deb mythphone .0.18.1?
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[23:20:00] psofa: -e level
[23:20:00] psofa: Sets the LogLevel to level during server startup. This is useful for temporarily increasing the verbosity
[23:20:00] psofa: of the error messages to find problems during startup.
[23:21:00] psofa: how should i know what the correct values for level are?
[23:22:00] kormoc: try setting it to some super high number and see?
[23:22:00] a1fa: i fixed my mythtv box
[23:22:00] a1fa: :P
[23:23:00] psofa: i tried
[23:23:00] psofa: but nothing
[23:23:00] psofa: oh nm
[23:23:00] psofa: found it
[23:24:00] laga: my master backend is quite crashy with rev8381. does anyone have similar experiences
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[23:24:00] laga: ? it happens especially when i'm using mythweb
[23:25:00] thechris: anyone know of a DIY USB controlled remote to control, say a digital TV box from the computer?
[23:26:00] tdb30_: Anyone ever have problems with the usb networking messing up when installing mythtv?
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[23:27:00] laga: hello Juski!
[23:27:00] laga: thechris: that shouldn't happen since networking should be kernel stuff while mythtv runs in userspace
[23:27:00] thechris: tdb30_: ^^
[23:28:00] Juski: hiya laga!  :) How was your christmastime?
[23:28:00] tdb30_: Humm. Maybe one of the packages I installed for mythtv's dependancies messed something up...
[23:28:00] laga: Juski: annoying, yet funny. some people drank too much and it wasn't me. yay. ;)
[23:28:00] Juski: heh. I had the best time in years. glad to be home now though
[23:29:00] laga: hehe, sounds good
[23:29:00] Juski: came back to find my desktop's PSU has finally given up – lucky I got a spare lying round :)
[23:30:00] Juski: anyway glad it was good for you.. I'm just away to watch some recorded stuff
[23:30:00] laga: hehe. i've been having trouble with computers for the whole day and i'm about to give up now ;)
[23:30:00] thechris: ahh, seems IRblaster may be what i'm looking for
[23:31:00] eiggirC: I'm having issues with transcoding – ie nothing is happening. Do I need to install some other binary?
[23:31:00] a1fa: i fixed mythv box ::P
[23:31:00] eiggirC: I've set cutpoints based on the commercial detection, and at playback the cuts are observed
[23:32:00] eiggirC: a1fa: excellent
[23:33:00] a1fa: i hear a rummor.. 0.19.1 should be out before the newyears
[23:33:00] laga: a1fa: make that 0.19 ;)
[23:33:00] a1fa: laga: yeah 0.19. my bad.. is that true?
[23:34:00] eiggirC: I think the cause is this – from my log file: "Unknown video codec"
[23:34:00] laga: a1fa: not sure. current SVN is a little bit broken for me. some stuff is being worked on, but i might have to file a few bugs
[23:34:00] eiggirC: I have a PVR150 that dumps mpeg2 and calls it .nuv
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[23:35:00] eiggirC: BBS
[23:35:00] kormoc: eiggirC, no, that's how myth dumps it, not the pvr-150
[23:35:00] eiggirC: sorry – bad phrasing
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[23:36:00] thechris: btw, whats with the nuv files?
[23:37:00] eiggirC: thechris: how do you mean?
[23:37:00] thechris: i mean, what advantage is there with nuv over say, mpeg?
[23:37:00] eiggirC: nuv is a native format for mythtv
[23:37:00] thechris: yes
[23:37:00] a1fa: lol
[23:37:00] eiggirC: unless you have a hardware mpeg encoder
[23:37:00] a1fa: they should've left it mpg
[23:37:00] thechris: but the devs had to choose a format, and they went wiht nuv
[23:37:00] laga: mpeg2 recordings have a .mpg extension in SVN :)
[23:37:00] thechris: i doubt they used the "all options in a hat" method
[23:37:00] a1fa: laga: so 0.19 you can chose, either nuv or mpg?
[23:38:00] thechris: hmm. 0.19 is looking better all the time
[23:38:00] a1fa: because i'd rather use .mpg
[23:38:00] a1fa: makes it easier to transport ;P
[23:38:00] laga: a1fa: 0.19 will use a .mpg extension for mpeg2 recordings.
[23:38:00] laga: and you will be able to rename the recordings.
[23:38:00] a1fa: nice.. i have pvr-500 so i am all set
[23:39:00] thechris: yeah, that was my question. i had no idea what advantage nuv gave over mpeg. i'll probably use mpeg if 0.19 supports that
[23:39:00] laga: thechris: yep! and you will be able to cut mpeg2 recordings in 0.19. quite nifty stuff.
[23:39:00] psofa: can someone help me pls
[23:39:00] psofa: im stuck
[23:39:00] psofa: mythweb wont work
[23:39:00] laga: thechris: if you have a hardware encoder card, the only difference is the filename, really.
[23:39:00] thechris: psofa: do you have apache, php?
[23:39:00] psofa: i dont get a php page
[23:39:00] psofa: but a simple listing of files
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[23:39:00] thechris: laga: except nothing seems to work with nuv
[23:39:00] psofa: yes i di have them
[23:39:00] psofa: *do
[23:40:00] a1fa: psofa: is your apache up?
[23:40:00] psofa: yes it is
[23:40:00] a1fa: what apache are you running?
[23:40:00] psofa: as i said i get a listing of the files in the server
[23:40:00] thechris: psofa: index.php or such is probably missing
[23:40:00] a1fa: lol
[23:40:00] thechris: or in a different dir
[23:40:00] a1fa: you dont have the php module loaded
[23:40:00] a1fa: you need to load php module in apache
[23:40:00] psofa: but php doesnt seem to be used
[23:40:00] thechris: psofa: what disto?
[23:40:00] a1fa: or he dont have php module loaded
[23:40:00] a1fa: psofa
[23:40:00] psofa: gentoo
[23:40:00] psofa: well
[23:40:00] psofa: the sevrer
[23:41:00] psofa: w8
[23:41:00] thechris: psofa: edit /etc/conf.d/apache
[23:41:00] a1fa: mytivo:~# ls -al /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf
[23:41:00] a1fa: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2005-11–12 14:38 /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf
[23:41:00] thechris: add a -D PHP (or -D PHP4) where it says to
[23:41:00] psofa: theres no idex.php
[23:41:00] psofa: theres a mythweb.php
[23:42:00] psofa: i have
[23:42:00] psofa: but it doesnt seem to do anything
[23:42:00] thechris: after modifying the file in conf.d, restart apache with /etc/init.d/apache restart
[23:42:00] redgolem: hi guys, does anyone know how I can get mythtv to look for the same program on two video sources (one is pvr250 and other is dvb card)?
[23:42:00] psofa: i already have
[23:42:00] bagpuss_thecat: when I update a schedule with mythweb, I get the following error...
[23:42:00] psofa: but theres no difference
[23:42:00] bagpuss_thecat: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: save() in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/program_detail.php on line 109
[23:42:00] bagpuss_thecat: can that be rectified easily?
[23:43:00] ** bagpuss_thecat is using Marillats packages **
[23:43:00] thechris: psofa: and you are sure you've enabled PHP and restarted apache?
[23:43:00] laga: i wonder if mythtv/mythweb is on crack. i see something i wanna record, but it's already started and only a few minutes are left. i choose to record it using "search one" and it starts to record the showing that's almost over. is this the intended behaviour?
[23:43:00] psofa: im not sure its enabled
[23:44:00] psofa: i dont know nhow to check the damn thing
[23:44:00] thechris: load any php file
[23:44:00] redgolem: does anyone here have a pvr-250 and a dvb card in one backend?
[23:44:00] psofa: thechris, ?
[23:44:00] psofa: how do i do that
[23:44:00] thechris: psofa: i'm emerging mythweb right now. it will take a sec to see exactly whats up
[23:45:00] thechris: psofa: but you should see a php file in the listings it gives you
[23:45:00] thechris: click on it
[23:45:00] psofa: omg
[23:45:00] psofa: :D
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[23:45:00] psofa: i didnt check that
[23:45:00] psofa: i thought it would show up a page
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[23:45:00] thechris: on my install, i just go to 10.0.0.1/mythweb/
[23:45:00] psofa: without me needing to click it
[23:45:00] psofa: :D
[23:46:00] a1fa: when are new episodes of Lost coming out?
[23:46:00] psofa: so now
[23:46:00] psofa: i get sth
[23:46:00] psofa: but undortunatelly its an error
[23:46:00] thechris: you really shouldn't need to click it
[23:46:00] thechris: sth?
[23:46:00] psofa: The database environment variables are not correctly set in the
[23:46:00] psofa: included .htaccess file
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[23:46:00] Krazylegz: a1fa: 1/11.
[23:46:00] thechris: what did you do?
[23:46:00] a1fa: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689366181727845562
[23:47:00] psofa: nothinh
[23:47:00] psofa: nothing
[23:47:00] thechris: i just now emerged mythweb and it just works out of box
[23:47:00] psofa: its the svn ebuild
[23:47:00] psofa: :(
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[23:47:00] thechris: of mythweb?
[23:47:00] psofa: yep
[23:47:00] thechris: there is an ebuild
[23:48:00] psofa: ill reemerge it
[23:48:00] thechris: it could be an issue with mythweb that isn't ironed out
[23:48:00] thechris: in svn
[23:48:00] psofa: in case i messed something up
[23:48:00] psofa: while trying to make php work
[23:49:00] thechris: man, now that mythtv and mythweb seem to work, i just wish i actually had a cable connection to my room.
[23:50:00] a1fa: what is that show with flavor flav?
[23:50:00] a1fa: when he is trying to find a girl?
[23:50:00] ** bagpuss_thecat revises his mythtv presentation slides :-/ **
[23:51:00] Caveman: does anyone know any abandonware sites? (slightly off topic – I know)
[23:51:00] Kabutor: Caveman, http://www.the-underdogs.org/
[23:51:00] laga: Caveman: and slightly illegal :)
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[23:51:00] Kabutor: those are legal
[23:51:00] Caveman: i was there, unfortunately they don't have DOTT
[23:51:00] Kabutor: afaik
[23:52:00] Kabutor: that is not legal :D
[23:52:00] Caveman: [10:53] <laga> Caveman: and slightly illegal :) <-- i did buy it many years ago if that counts :P
[23:52:00] a1fa: it is legal
[23:53:00] laga: well, i'm sorry then. i've just have heard this term together with "zomg!!!1 warez!!" too many times :)
[23:53:00] laga: s/have//
[23:53:00] Caveman: haha yeah i know
[23:53:00] Caveman: maybe my grandma still has the original, she hordes that type of stuff
[23:53:00] a1fa: any new series worth watching?
[23:53:00] Kabutor: If you have the money to pay to the lawyer for the defense its legal, if you dont have the money, then its not ;)
[23:54:00] Kabutor: alfa: Veronica Mars
[23:54:00] a1fa: whut is that
[23:54:00] kormoc: the-underdogs.org is still actually illegal
[23:54:00] Kabutor: according to Josh Wheadon, creator of the buffy-verse firefly and so, its the best serie on TV at the moment
[23:55:00] kormoc: they just remove the ones requested by the copyright holder
[23:55:00] kormoc: but just because the copyright holder hasn't noticed or doesn't care doesn't make it any more legal
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[23:55:00] a1fa: nah
[23:55:00] a1fa: not good
[23:57:00] a1fa: anybody else
[23:59:00] Kabutor: the 4400

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