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| [00:00:00] | evilbuny: | I setup a nvidia card and have the tvout and vga as different desktops |
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| [00:01:00] | paul_: | evilbuny, I'm partway there. I've got a desktop running on the internal (Intel) video and I can get mythtv playback on the TV via the PVR350 |
| [00:01:00] | paul_: | evilbuny, I haven't gotten the mythtv menu interface to go to the TV yet. It still shows up on my VGA desktop |
| [00:02:00] | evilbuny: | ummm isn't the 350 only a limited output? |
| [00:03:00] | paul_: | evilbuny, It worked with Knoppmyth after some black magic, but too many other things didn't work so I'm trying again with an Ubuntu base |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | evilbuny, with the ivtv X driver, the 350 is a full featured output |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | XV and all |
| [00:03:00] | laga: | kormoc: opengl? ;) |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | software rendered I beleive :P |
| [00:04:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [00:04:00] | paul_: | evilbuny, by "worked" I mean that I got mythtv menu and video output. But only by disabling the VGA output, and mythvideo never worked |
| [00:05:00] | evilbuny: | oic |
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| [00:07:00] | paul_: | At the moment I have the mythtv GUI interface on my VGA desktop and when I select a recording to play my screen goes blank and the recording plays on the TV. I can still Alt-Tab to get to other windows on my desktop |
| [00:08:00] | paul_: | kormoc, I haven't configured the PVR350 in XF86Config. I have my onboard Intel video configured there. I simply selected "Enable PVR350 Output" in one of the mythtv setup screens |
| [00:08:00] | kormoc: | paul_, yeah, but to get the frontend and all that to display on the tv, you need to setup the 350 as a x display |
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| [00:12:00] | paul_: | kormoc, oh, I guess I'm going to have to tackle that then. I've found some stuff on the web, but I'm not completely certain how to get it setup. I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet. I was hoping that "Use PVR350 Output" would save me the pain. |
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| [00:24:00] | Santzes: | Can I somehow start mythtv frontend so that the "Watch TV" will start automatically? |
| [00:25:00] | fir3_: | someone here using phpmyadmin? |
| [00:27:00] | paul_: | well, I just edited xorg.conf, I guess I have to restart X whichmeans losing all my windows. here goes nothing |
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| [00:29:00] | fir3_: | i've changed some the bitrate in the recording profiles but the changes are not set |
| [00:30:00] | fir3_: | the recordings still use too much disk space |
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| [00:38:00] | simcop2387: | boy is th listings view in mythvideo slow, anyone know what could be slowing it down? |
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| [00:44:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | This is a pretty stupid question but... how can I get Myth to make those little beeping sounds that a TiVo makes as you change channels? |
| [00:44:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | =] |
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| [00:45:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | You konw, changing channels, going throuh menus, the click/beep like sounds |
| [00:48:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | Apparently not :x |
| [00:49:00] | Cromz: | lol dunno but I wouldn't want that. it'll get annoying to me. :> |
| [00:54:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | I like them... they aren't that annoying |
| [00:55:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | you heard them before? |
| [00:55:00] | Cromz: | nope. but my sony remote beeps all the time. |
| [00:55:00] | Cromz: | I don't use it for myth. it's for my main living room setup. |
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| [00:56:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | these are PLEASANT beeps... sort of a mix between a click and a ding |
| [00:56:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | not like BEEP |
| [00:56:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [00:56:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | like cling! |
| [00:59:00] | Cromz: | I'd rather have a female making moans ;) like oooOO and ahhh lol |
| [01:00:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | well if myth has this capability... then you could |
| [01:00:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | because you could probably customise the sounds that are played |
| [01:00:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | ;-) |
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| [01:01:00] | Cromz: | don't think it does.. but somewhere in the code.. you should be able to add it. I wouldn't even know where to start looking for it. |
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| [01:02:00] | Cromz: | lol random between those and a female voice saying 'yes!'when you hit enter / select ahhaha |
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| [01:03:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | Heh |
| [01:03:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | That would be nice |
| [01:03:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | there might be a mod for it |
| [01:03:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | I'll have to research |
| [01:05:00] | ol_schoola: | finally! got all my shopping done |
| [01:06:00] | ol_schoola: | waited until last to buy my own toy |
| [01:06:00] | ol_schoola: | toys :) |
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| [01:07:00] | ol_schoola: | nf3 mobo, venice 3500, seasonic PS, and a liverstone lc18 |
| [01:07:00] | ol_schoola: | silverstone |
| [01:07:00] | ol_schoola: | going to hold off on the touchpanel until it hit .20 |
| [01:07:00] | ** hackmiester[MTV] ignores the fact that he hasn't heard of one brand ol_schoola just listed ** | |
| [01:08:00] | cheatersrealm: | mythtv looks cool, but the setup on it is a fairly large hurdle.. |
| [01:08:00] | cheatersrealm: | I really don't feel like setting up all my my hardware drivers and things |
| [01:09:00] | ol_schoola: | not brands, parts Giga K8N somethingorother, the seasonic is a hush quiet 870+ power supply, the Silverstone cases are pioneers in the HTPC market, what's not to know? |
| [01:09:00] | ol_schoola: | 80+ (efficiency Power Supply, typo above |
| [01:09:00] | cheatersrealm: | ... I wish I had an apartment to put a dvr in.. that would make this much easier |
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| [01:09:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [01:09:00] | ol_schoola: | i just put mine in the rack with the other goodiesw |
| [01:10:00] | ol_schoola: | a WHOLE apartment, that's a lot of hard drives |
| [01:10:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | ol_schoola, you put liverstone |
| [01:11:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | which is why I hadn't heard of it |
| [01:11:00] | Cromz: | typo.. ol_schoola left off the leading s |
| [01:11:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [01:12:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | I was like 'Liverstone, wtf.' |
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| [01:12:00] | ol_schoola: | i had a few beers, slurring :) |
| [01:14:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | heh |
| [01:14:00] | ** hackmiester[MTV] has homemade wine :D ** | |
| [01:14:00] | Cromz: | starting tomarrow I get to rebuild everything! yay.. mythbox, my system, a new clarkconnect box.. and and and my home network . |
| [01:14:00] | ol_schoola: | now i gotta get the hang of the HD5000, they just arrived |
| [01:15:00] | ol_schoola: | will toss them in the old machine and see what i can break while the parts trickle in |
| [01:16:00] | ol_schoola: | i had the original AirStar2 (r2) soo i spect it won't be much different |
| [01:16:00] | ol_schoola: | hackmeister: good friend makes mead |
| [01:17:00] | ol_schoola: | she's winning some awards and getting known |
| [01:17:00] | ol_schoola: | yummy stuff |
| [01:17:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | ol_schoola, cool |
| [01:17:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | I just sorta toyed around with teh homemade wine bit |
| [01:20:00] | ol_schoola: | that's how she got started |
| [01:20:00] | riksta: | woo it's christmas eve |
| [01:20:00] | riksta: | one more day till i get some new socks |
| [01:20:00] | Cromz: | riksta, the last pair getting alittle stale? |
| [01:20:00] | ol_schoola: | Cromz: that clarkconnect looks pretty cool, did they roll their own or is a derivitive of another distro? |
| [01:21:00] | riksta: | Cromz, yeah they are 364 days old |
| [01:21:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | riksta, different timezones then ;-) |
| [01:21:00] | riksta: | uk here |
| [01:21:00] | Cromz: | ol_schoola, it's striped down fedora I think. |
| [01:21:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | that'd be it |
| [01:21:00] | riksta: | 1:24am |
| [01:21:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | day before Hanukkah here |
| [01:21:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | which I believe is Christmas eve eve |
| [01:21:00] | ol_schoola: | i'ma hafta seriously look through that, looks apropriate |
| [01:22:00] | riksta: | im so ignorant..i didnt even know that :P |
| [01:22:00] | riksta: | how can it be day before christmas eve eve |
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| [01:23:00] | riksta: | gnite |
| [01:23:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | riksta, huh? isn't it Xmas eve where you are, which woul dmake it Xmas eve here? |
| [01:24:00] | riksta: | no in the usa now it will be xmas eve eve |
| [01:26:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | Oh. |
| [01:26:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | RIght. |
| [01:26:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | That's what I meant to type. |
| [01:26:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | Oops. |
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| [02:55:00] | sPiN: | im looking at the docs, and i cant find a clear list of the dependancies |
| [02:57:00] | jasta: | sPiN: i bet the build files produce such a list :) |
| [02:57:00] | sPiN: | buildfiles? you mean ./configure? |
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| [02:59:00] | t00m: | merry christmas |
| [03:02:00] | d3ity-ho: | merry christmas t00m. |
| [03:03:00] | t00m: | thanks |
| [03:07:00] | ** d3ity-ho is getting mythtv for christmas ** | |
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| [03:43:00] | Zirka: | I'm having problems getting access to the mythconverg MySQL database on a remote machine. |
| [03:44:00] | Zirka: | I'm attempting to use XBMC's MythTV python scripts, and all it's giving me to work with is a general, nondescript MySQL error. |
| [03:44:00] | Zirka: | I've scoured the forums at mysettopbox.tv, and the XBMC forums, none of those solutions seem to work. |
| [03:44:00] | Zirka: | Anyone here think they could help me out? |
| [03:46:00] | Cromz: | did you give premission for hosts to conenct to the database? |
| [03:47:00] | Zirka: | You mean UPDATE settings SET settings.hostname=null WHERE settings.value='DBSchemaVer'; |
| [03:47:00] | Zirka: | or Grant all privileges on mythconverg.* to mythtv@'192.168.0.5' identified by 'mythtv'; |
| [03:47:00] | Cromz: | heh ya the last one. |
| [03:47:00] | Cromz: | k then. hmm |
| [03:48:00] | Cromz: | what distro of linux? I mainly use fedora. so I might not be much help. |
| [03:48:00] | Zirka: | Whoa.... wtfbbq? |
| [03:48:00] | Zirka: | I think it just fixed itself somehow? |
| [03:49:00] | Cromz: | was gonna say could be something like selinux crap that stuff always gets in my way. heh |
| [03:49:00] | Zirka: | No, it's KnoppMyth |
| [03:50:00] | Zirka: | Weird. |
| [03:50:00] | Zirka: | It says "settings tested sucessfully" |
| [03:50:00] | Zirka: | Yet I don't seem to be able to access much. |
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| [03:52:00] | docelmo: | anyone alive? |
| [03:53:00] | Zirka: | Kinda |
| [03:53:00] | docelmo: | I got a quick question.. I see alot of referals to X server for my video card. Do I need to install and configure Xwindows? I dont see it listed anywhere else |
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| [03:55:00] | Zirka: | Yes, you need X |
| [03:55:00] | Zirka: | It's also known as X11, or XFree86 |
| [03:55:00] | Zirka: | However, I hear you can use Xorg instead |
| [03:56:00] | docelmo: | So I do need to install X Windows then? ok.. Gnome? or no Gnome? |
| [03:56:00] | Zirka: | No Gnome |
| [03:56:00] | docelmo: | The only reason I am asking is cause I have been everywhere and dont see these answers |
| [03:56:00] | Zirka: | MythTV doesn't draw from Gnome |
| [03:56:00] | Zirka: | docelmo, Do you have any Linux experience? |
| [03:56:00] | ** docelmo is AFK, Check out Plainvoip.com Domestic 48 .92c termination!. Gone now for:«4days 22hrs 19mins» (Pager is On, /ctcp docelmo Page <message>) —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— ** | |
| [03:56:00] | docelmo: | bout 10 years |
| [03:56:00] | docelmo: | Just new to this |
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| [03:57:00] | Zirka: | Hmm. |
| [03:57:00] | Zirka: | You'll need X11, but not Gnome. |
| [03:57:00] | docelmo: | ok.. |
| [03:57:00] | Zirka: | Just some kind of windowing interface, like FluxBox (the less intrusive and smaller memory foot print, the better) |
| [03:58:00] | docelmo: | also one other quick q.. what distro do you recommend? I am used to RedHat flavors but I see Gentoo is a walk in the park to install MythTv.. |
| [03:58:00] | Zirka: | I just used KnoppMyth |
| [03:59:00] | Cromz: | docelmo, which one are you most comfertable with? ;) |
| [03:59:00] | docelmo: | Can that be installed on a HD or just CD boot only? |
| [03:59:00] | Zirka: | It's Debian based, but I've heard people who liked using MythTV with Fedora, and Gentoo |
| [03:59:00] | Zirka: | KnoppMyth can install the front-end and back-end on the hard disk with automatic configuration |
| [03:59:00] | docelmo: | I know Redhat flavors best. I use CentOS mainly for all installs |
| [03:59:00] | Cromz: | I use fedora 3, 64bit. for now.. |
| [03:59:00] | Zirka: | But it also has a front-end only mode that can be installed to the hard drive, or run from CD |
| [04:00:00] | Cromz: | gonna switch it to 32 bit system next week. well I already got it running just gonna move the cable box lol |
| [04:00:00] | docelmo: | k.. I am gonna attemt my first install tonight once I get all of my hardware together.. |
| [04:00:00] | ** Zirka bangs head against wall ** | |
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| [04:01:00] | Zirka: | Why won't WebMin accept my password?! |
| [04:01:00] | docelmo: | Pam screwed up? |
| [04:01:00] | Zirka: | I have no idea. |
| [04:02:00] | Zirka: | no_pam=0 |
| [04:02:00] | Zirka: | What the? |
| [04:03:00] | docelmo: | nice.. Nothing like getting 1000k/s downloads |
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| [04:08:00] | Zirka: | You know, you'd think that if I could log in on the machine as root, I could log in on webmin |
| [04:08:00] | y6829yd: | Hi, I was wondering if someone can help me to get composite in working on my tv card in myth? |
| [04:08:00] | Zirka: | y6829yd, What's wrong? |
| [04:09:00] | y6829yd: | I've got a DVICO DVB-T1 and basically the only input source I can select is default |
| [04:09:00] | y6829yd: | I've got S-Video in and Composite in, but can't work out how to get anything apart from atenna |
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| [04:10:00] | Zirka: | Did you run mythtv-setup and specify in the Tuner configuration to use the Composite in, and not the Tuner? |
| [04:12:00] | y6829yd: | The only option I found similar to that is under Capture Card Setup > I select the card Digital Video Broadcast and Default Input is set to DVBInput |
| [04:12:00] | y6829yd: | but it's grayed out, and I can't change it |
| [04:13:00] | y6829yd: | Originally I thought it was because my card was being detected as a DVB-Plus (light card without composite) but now it's detecting fine and still problems |
| [04:13:00] | Zirka: | Well, now you're out of my area of expertise. |
| [04:13:00] | Zirka: | I have no idea how to deal with DVB cards |
| [04:13:00] | Zirka: | (I live in the states, we don't get those kinds of fancy toys) |
| [04:13:00] | y6829yd: | oh ok |
| [04:14:00] | y6829yd: | But where in your setup do you select to change the Input Source? Maybe there's a DVBInput variable I can modify somewhere? |
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| [04:15:00] | y6829yd: | Would anyone else here know? |
| [04:16:00] | y6829yd: | Or is everyone asleep :P |
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| [04:16:00] | Zirka: | Sometimes you need to be patient. |
| [04:17:00] | Cromz: | y6829yd, I select input source via mythtv-setup, option 4, input connections. I dunno about the dvb cards. |
| [04:20:00] | y6829yd: | yeh I can do that too, but I have to manually create them... So unless I have to name them specifically |
| [04:20:00] | y6829yd: | Because you can' |
| [04:20:00] | sPiN: | sweeet jesus! the i got mythtv to compile on a suse 10 box! |
| [04:20:00] | y6829yd: | t exactly "scan" the source, so i'm wondering how else to do it |
| [04:20:00] | sPiN: | it took all day today, and a touch of yesterday, and reinstalling the OS but i did it |
| [04:21:00] | ** sPiN struts around the room beating his chest ** | |
| [04:21:00] | Zirka: | Say, anyone know anything about working with the MythTV Xebian image for XBox (the one from The Pirate Bay?) |
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| [04:58:00] | docelmo: | say any thoughts on using a nVidia Gforce2 200MX? |
| [04:58:00] | docelmo: | for display card? |
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| [05:08:00] | Nothingman: | anyone know why I can't access my music from another comp with the frontend? |
| [05:09:00] | Nothingman: | or why I can't view images? |
| [05:09:00] | Nothingman: | or why sound continues to play from the card while a stream is recording and long after it ends (or the machine crashes)> |
| [05:09:00] | Nothingman: | ? |
| [05:11:00] | sPiN: | www.phpfi.com/93137 |
| [05:11:00] | sPiN: | guys how do i tell the mythplugins that im on a 64bit machine? |
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| [05:23:00] | Zirka: | Nothingman, are you using an analog capture card, or a digital one? |
| [05:23:00] | Zirka: | Anyone want to help me with my SQL Database problems? Looks like they're not fixed after all. |
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| [05:25:00] | Nothingman: | Zirka: analog TV signal, if that's what you mean |
| [05:25:00] | Nothingman: | bttv |
| [05:25:00] | Zirka: | Nothingman, No, I mean the type of capture card. |
| [05:25:00] | Zirka: | Is it a hardware MPEG-2 encoder, or a frame-grabber? |
| [05:25:00] | sPiN: | i have no idea what to put for -march on my amd 64 bit box here... |
| [05:26:00] | sPiN: | the ./configure --help for mythplugins didnt say anything about cpu like the mythtv compile did |
| [05:26:00] | sPiN: | does it want k8 or maybe x86_64? |
| [05:26:00] | Zirka: | I was under the impression that the plug-ins were scripts. |
| [05:27:00] | Nothingman: | Zirka: should allow for an MPEG-2, but for all I can tell it does frame-grabbing atm |
| [05:27:00] | Nothingman: | kind of slow |
| [05:27:00] | Zirka: | Anyhow, did you try compiling the plug-ins anyway? I remember that x264 didn't say anything about a CPU, but it compiled on my Mac OS X box. |
| [05:27:00] | Nothingman: | the resulting video's kind of slow, I mean |
| [05:27:00] | Zirka: | Nothingman, What kind of card is it? |
| [05:27:00] | sPiN: | the readme says ./configure; qmake mythplugins.pro; make; make install |
| [05:28:00] | Zirka: | sPiN, then I'd probably do as the readme says. |
| [05:28:00] | sPiN: | Zirka: yeah but i get the error i posted a min ago |
| [05:28:00] | sPiN: | www.phpfi.com/93137 |
| [05:28:00] | Zirka: | Ahh, oops, my bad. |
| [05:28:00] | Zirka: | I'm not used to this paste-bin stuff. |
| [05:29:00] | Nothingman: | Zirka: it's an I/OMagic PVR-100 or something like it from 2001 |
| [05:29:00] | Nothingman: | works well in general |
| [05:30:00] | Zirka: | Sounds like a frame-grabber. |
| [05:30:00] | Zirka: | Basically, your capture card doesn't touch the sound at all. |
| [05:30:00] | Zirka: | It's hooked up to your sound card's input jack, right? |
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| [05:32:00] | Zirka: | Nothingman, right? |
| [05:32:00] | Nothingman: | far as I can tell, yes |
| [05:32:00] | Zirka: | Well, there's your problem. |
| [05:32:00] | Zirka: | Your computer isn't muting your input jack. |
| [05:32:00] | Zirka: | See, your video capture card doesn't touch audio at all. |
| [05:33:00] | Zirka: | It just sends it over to the sound card. |
| [05:33:00] | Zirka: | When you watch TV, the input gets unmuted |
| [05:33:00] | Zirka: | Just open up your mixer settings and mute it. |
| [05:39:00] | sPiN: | ok so i got mythtv to compile... but i got nothing on this mythplugins i dont need it do I? |
| [05:40:00] | ** Zirka shrugs ** | |
| [05:40:00] | Zirka: | IT can't hurt to try it anyway, can it? |
| [05:41:00] | sPiN: | well i dont have the tuner card yet so i dont know if i can go any further |
| [05:41:00] | sPiN: | i compiled it and then moved on to the db setup and that went fine |
| [05:41:00] | Nothingman: | sorry, in the middle of other projects, too |
| [05:41:00] | sPiN: | now im on the step that says to run myth-setup i believe |
| [05:41:00] | Nothingman: | but yes, that makes sense |
| [05:43:00] | Nothingman: | except that even muting the "Line1" on my sound card doesn't affect it |
| [05:43:00] | Nothingman: | only muting PCM does |
| [05:43:00] | Nothingman: | which is *very* strange |
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| [05:45:00] | ** Zirka shrugs ** | |
| [05:47:00] | sPiN: | i set the -march to k8 in the settings.pro and now i get: http://www.phpfi.com/93139 |
| [05:47:00] | Zirka: | I'll be honest, I have no idea how to deal with those problems, let alone anything 64-bit |
| [05:47:00] | sPiN: | you and me both :P |
| [05:48:00] | sPiN: | i just want to get my box as far along as i can so when i get back from xmas with the family, i can drop my card in and not have to spend 12 hours getting stuff working |
| [05:48:00] | Zirka: | Good luck. |
| [05:48:00] | Zirka: | Try the mailing list, maybe you'll get some luck there. |
| [05:48:00] | sPiN: | thanks :) |
| [05:49:00] | sPiN: | yeah people give their bad topics.. makes that a lot harder than it need be |
| [05:49:00] | sPiN: | post that is |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | /topic |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [05:53:00] | |Slurpee|: | im building my box now !!! |
| [05:53:00] | |Slurpee|: | anybody care to help me in a lil bit when i need to start settin up software ? |
| [05:54:00] | \Grooby\_: | what kinda box? |
| [05:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | shell ? |
| [05:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | or specs on everything ? |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | cause im on my second shell |
| [05:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | ?!?! |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | i refused to pay for a new case |
| [05:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | i am lost... |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | nevermind |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | i got smphron 2800 64 bit |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | some amd board that matches the chip |
| [05:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | alright |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | pvr-150 |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | fx5200 |
| [05:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | 1 gig of ddr |
| [05:56:00] | \Grooby\_: | i got the asus a8v board |
| [05:56:00] | \Grooby\_: | amd64 3500+ |
| [05:56:00] | \Grooby\_: | fx5200 also |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | just got my mobo screwed into my case |
| [05:56:00] | \Grooby\_: | 1gb of ram too |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | have any problems with debian and fx5200 ? |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | r u using debian ? |
| [05:56:00] | \Grooby\_: | gentoo |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | hmmm |
| [05:56:00] | \Grooby\_: | but i don't believe you should run into problems |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | did u make a post on a message board ? |
| [05:56:00] | |Slurpee|: | about your setup ? |
| [05:57:00] | \Grooby\_: | not really... |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | thougth i saw someone saying that same hardware your using |
| [05:57:00] | \Grooby\_: | and they are having problems? |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | here is a good question that i need a answer to now |
| [05:57:00] | awstott: | thats pretty common hardware |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | 1 drive or 2 |
| [05:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have 1 250 gig for my store |
| [05:57:00] | \Grooby\_: | 1 200GB drive |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | but i have an extra drive for swap |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | thats is 4 gigs |
| [05:58:00] | ** awstott has 1.46TB of space :) ** | |
| [05:58:00] | \Grooby\_: | shouldn't give you any problems |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | well should i put debia on the 250 gig |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | or put it on a swap |
| [05:58:00] | awstott: | I'd junk that old drive |
| [05:58:00] | awstott: | it'll be slow |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [05:58:00] | \Grooby\_: | i relaly don't think you need that 4gb |
| [05:58:00] | awstott: | if it's only 4 gig |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | thats what i thought |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have a bunch of them around |
| [05:58:00] | \Grooby\_: | i only have 512mb swap |
| [05:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | i work with computers |
| [05:59:00] | \Grooby\_: | 1gb of ram is plenty for what you are doing |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | so i have lots of random crap laying around |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | ill just use the 250 |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | i bought refurbed |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | lets hope it works ;/ |
| [05:59:00] | awstott: | I just have 5 boxes laying around |
| [05:59:00] | awstott: | you buy it from woot.com? |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | no |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | upgradesolutions |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | i bought 2 of the drives |
| [05:59:00] | awstott: | oh they had 250s for dirt cheap |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | the other one is in my server already |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | and its working perfect |
| [05:59:00] | awstott: | like 50/drive |
| [05:59:00] | \Grooby\_: | at least you are not buying them off a back of a truck |
| [05:59:00] | \Grooby\_: | ;) |
| [05:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | i bought my ram there too |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | ram is all good |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | im 2/3 so far ;/ |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | maybe i hsould use the 4 gig just to boot |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | make sure my hardware is wokring |
| [06:00:00] | awstott: | why bother |
| [06:00:00] | awstott: | just looking for problems |
| [06:00:00] | awstott: | using old stuff |
| [06:00:00] | \Grooby\_: | agree |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | but the drive could be dead |
| [06:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | ive never used it |
| [06:01:00] | awstott: | mind you.... check this.... http://pyro.backwerds.net:8080/phpsysinfo |
| [06:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | or use it as your tv cache |
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| [06:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | 4gb should be a nice buffer space for live tv pause |
| [06:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | don't bother setting up a seperate livetv buffer space |
| [06:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's no longer seperate in svn, and the next version is not that far away :) |
| [06:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | interesting |
| [06:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | that's good to know I guess |
| [06:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [06:02:00] | |Slurpee|: | ram is going in ;/ |
| [06:02:00] | awstott: | you guys see my antique of a box? |
| [06:03:00] | \Grooby\_: | slurpee, you should video cast it live |
| [06:03:00] | \Grooby\_: | so we can see what you are doin |
| [06:03:00] | \Grooby\_: | j/k |
| [06:03:00] | awstott: | lol |
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| [06:03:00] | awstott: | wonder if |Slurpee| is wearing his static strap :P |
| [06:03:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [06:04:00] | awstott: | I never wear em |
| [06:04:00] | datix: | my install is not changing channels with live with using a pvr-350, with arrow keys or remote, and ideas? |
| [06:04:00] | \Grooby\_: | some metallic ring and accidently short the mB |
| [06:04:00] | \Grooby\_: | datix....mythfilldatabase? |
| [06:04:00] | thechris: | datix: i have an idea |
| [06:04:00] | awstott: | I really need to get my box goin |
| [06:04:00] | \Grooby\_: | or you didn't set the card right in mythtv-setup |
| [06:04:00] | thechris: | datix: try restarting the backend |
| [06:05:00] | awstott: | maybe christmas aftternoon |
| [06:05:00] | awstott: | anyways... have a good nite guys.... merry christmas if you aren't kicking around tomorrow :) |
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| [06:05:00] | \Grooby\_: | merry xmas to you too |
| [06:05:00] | datix: | i setup the card |
| [06:05:00] | \Grooby\_: | and good night |
| [06:05:00] | datix: | i will play with it more |
| [06:06:00] | |Slurpee|: | anybody have problems with onboard sound ? |
| [06:06:00] | awstott: | mine worked fine in sarge |
| [06:06:00] | awstott: | ac97 |
| [06:06:00] | thechris: | |Slurpee|: yes, but probably not in the same context |
| [06:06:00] | \Grooby\_: | mine's broken |
| [06:06:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have 2 sarge disks next to me |
| [06:06:00] | \Grooby\_: | but i've only tried SPDIF output |
| [06:06:00] | \Grooby\_: | so i just pop in my old SB live + daughterboard |
| [06:06:00] | thechris: | my onboard sound just sucks, so i don't use it. |
| [06:07:00] | awstott: | I plan on running the frontend on here, where i have an audigy 2 |
| [06:07:00] | awstott: | if i ever get my box running |
| [06:07:00] | ** \Grooby\_ thinks awstott should just go to sleep ** | |
| [06:07:00] | awstott: | got a gbit link between the two of the machines |
| [06:07:00] | awstott: | yah I know |
| [06:07:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehe |
| [06:07:00] | thechris: | if winXP worked with my aureal vortex 2 i'd use it |
| [06:07:00] | awstott: | hehe |
| [06:08:00] | \Grooby\_: | once I get a stable job, I want to replace my current 3500+ with a dual core |
| [06:08:00] | sPiN: | \Grooby\_: yeah get rid of that slow POS |
| [06:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | i don't have BE/FE setup |
| [06:09:00] | thechris: | i've got a 3000+ and 3200+. combined 6200+. my video card is a 6800. thats 13k right there! |
| [06:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | doing everything at once just...doesn't work |
| [06:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [06:10:00] | awstott: | k really goin onw..... nite |
| [06:10:00] | \Grooby\_: | nite |
| [06:11:00] | thechris: | \Grooby\_: so what are you running mythtv on? |
| [06:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | 3500+ with 200gb HD |
| [06:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | got a pvr 350, 150, and hd3k in the box |
| [06:13:00] | thechris: | wow, better specs then my box |
| [06:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | recording butt load of shows |
| [06:14:00] | thechris: | its just a pvr500, 3000+, 3 nics, 1 wifi card, 512MB ram, and 3 120GB drives |
| [06:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | and transcoding them all |
| [06:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | you got 300+ and 3200+ |
| [06:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | that's pretty good |
| [06:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | 3000+ |
| [06:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | load balance it across 2 boxes |
| [06:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [06:14:00] | thechris: | oh, my 3200+ runs windows for now |
| [06:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | ooooh i c i c |
| [06:14:00] | thechris: | no sata2 module yet |
| [06:15:00] | thechris: | and i'm home for christmas so the PVR box isn't even recording shows |
| [06:15:00] | \Grooby\_: | if I could get my spdif output working then i would put in another pvr150 |
| [06:15:00] | \Grooby\_: | but at this point..i think the hardware is just physically bad |
| [06:16:00] | thechris: | man, the 350's coming down in price |
| [06:16:00] | thechris: | my dad got one for $125 |
| [06:16:00] | \Grooby\_: | wow |
| [06:16:00] | \Grooby\_: | thats' really good |
| [06:16:00] | thechris: | retail box at that, with remote |
| [06:17:00] | \Grooby\_: | that's pretty good |
| [06:17:00] | thechris: | use any volume management? like lvm2 or evms? |
| [06:17:00] | \Grooby\_: | btw..seems like on the news group, people tends to like intel (high mhz) than amd? |
| [06:18:00] | \Grooby\_: | I use to on the older setup..but not right now |
| [06:18:00] | \Grooby\_: | if I get another HD, then I would LVM it |
| [06:18:00] | thechris: | i just set up evms (uses lvm2). pretty nice so far |
| [06:18:00] | \Grooby\_: | ahhh ok |
| [06:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | never figure out evms |
| [06:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [06:19:00] | thechris: | it has a GUI... |
| [06:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | just follow the LVM how to to getup the volumes |
| [06:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | yeah...i know |
| [06:19:00] | thechris: | though the UI isn't exactly intuitive. sometimes you have to just know the secret handshake option |
| [06:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | hahahaha |
| [06:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | and sacrafice a virgin monkey right? |
| [06:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehe |
| [06:20:00] | thechris: | yes. its : actions — sacrifice — monkey — virgin — confirm |
| [06:20:00] | \Grooby\_: | roflmao |
| [06:20:00] | thechris: | only works at midnight though |
| [06:21:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehe |
| [06:21:00] | thechris: | IIRC a few media encoding codecs got help from intel to get very optimized code, and intel makes encoding a bit of a priority |
| [06:21:00] | \Grooby\_: | i c |
| [06:22:00] | thechris: | xvid did better on amd i think |
| [06:22:00] | thechris: | divx obviously went to intel. |
| [06:23:00] | \Grooby\_: | if I transcode to mpeg4...is it xvid? |
| [06:23:00] | \Grooby\_: | or something else? |
| [06:23:00] | thechris: | i'm not sure. i don't think it was xvid. |
| [06:24:00] | thechris: | i really don't transcode things. not too much reason to do it |
| [06:24:00] | \Grooby\_: | i c |
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| [06:31:00] | cmt: | is anyone here familiar with the ivtv passthrough option |
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| [06:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | for accessing the raw yuv data ? |
| [06:32:00] | cmt: | yeah |
| [06:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | what about it ? |
| [06:33:00] | cmt: | well, (i think we talked about this last night) |
| [06:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I already know where this is going :) |
| [06:33:00] | cmt: | i got the xbox going through my pvr-150.... but its got the 2 second delay from the mpeg conversion |
| [06:33:00] | cmt: | lol |
| [06:33:00] | cmt: | so im trying to bypass this step |
| [06:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, myth will not access the raw yuv stream, infact I don't know of any app that actively uses it |
| [06:34:00] | cmt: | theres no mplayer or xine codec? |
| [06:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | no power cable |
| [06:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can get the datam and even get mplayer to view it, but I have never seen any solution that grabbed both the raw video and audio and played them insync |
| [06:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | u gota be kidding me |
| [06:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | hahahah |
| [06:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | i built the damn mythtv and forget a power cable |
| [06:34:00] | cmt: | well damn |
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| [06:35:00] | cmt: | i guess i can run it through my wintv go... but i was trying to eliminate the bttv card |
| [06:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you absolutely must pass the xbox through it, going with a bttv card and an external app like xawtv or maybe tvtime are your only real options |
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| [06:36:00] | cmt: | yeah, i have that working actually.... minus sound... i dont have the cable to convert the component audio to a 1/4" to run it in |
| [06:37:00] | cmt: | im just not sure the video quality makes it worth it though |
| [06:40:00] | cmt: | one other question.... it seems my audio is about a tenth of a second or so out of sync with the video |
| [06:40:00] | cmt: | is there anything i can do about that? |
| [06:41:00] | cmt: | but its not consistent.... |
| [06:41:00] | cmt: | thats the problem |
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| [07:53:00] | docelmo: | anyone using a Hauppauge PVR150? |
| [07:58:00] | cmt: | yep |
| [07:58:00] | cmt: | works like a charm |
| [08:00:00] | docelmo: | What did you configure to get it to work? Mine keeps bitching about codecs or something.. |
| [08:01:00] | docelmo: | I used KnoppMythTv to install since it was all in one and didnt confuse the hell outa me |
| [08:01:00] | cmt: | what ivtv version are you using... and how did you install? |
| [08:01:00] | cmt: | ah |
| [08:01:00] | cmt: | do you know the ivtv version? |
| [08:01:00] | docelmo: | ya 1 sec |
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| [08:04:00] | docelmo: | 0.4.0 it looks like |
| [08:04:00] | cmt: | ok |
| [08:04:00] | cmt: | can you give me the exact error? and where it shows up at? |
| [08:05:00] | docelmo: | When I start mythtv from mythfrontend |
| [08:05:00] | netrix: | i backed up and restored my mythconveg db to another server. where do i configure the db settings for mythbackend? |
| [08:05:00] | docelmo: | I get something like the following |
| [08:06:00] | cmt: | netrix: i believe all you need to do is import the new database.... check the docs for the mysql-admin command.... i think that should import mysql backups |
| [08:06:00] | docelmo: | basically unknown video/audio codecs.. How should I have configured this card in the backend? I set it up as a 250/350 since they are kinda close |
| [08:06:00] | cmt: | no they arent actually |
| [08:07:00] | docelmo: | oh |
| [08:07:00] | cmt: | they have different chipsets |
| [08:07:00] | docelmo: | How should I have set it up |
| [08:07:00] | cmt: | does the ivtv driver autodetect it? |
| [08:07:00] | docelmo: | yes it finds a 150 |
| [08:07:00] | netrix: | cmt: i did that. just wondering how to point the backend at the new db server. |
| [08:07:00] | cmt: | netrix: sorry... mythtv-setup has that info in it |
| [08:08:00] | cmt: | docelmo: do you mean you configured it in mythtv as a 250–350? |
| [08:08:00] | docelmo: | yes when I run the mythtv-setup |
| [08:08:00] | docelmo: | it said to configure a tuner so I did.. |
| [08:08:00] | cmt: | docelmo: ok, that setting is correct. is mythtv giving you the error? |
| [08:08:00] | cmt: | docelmo |
| [08:08:00] | docelmo: | yes when I run mythtv |
| [08:09:00] | cmt: | docelmo: did you try looking at the video raw? |
| [08:09:00] | docelmo: | um no.. Not sure how to do this.. |
| [08:09:00] | cmt: | cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [08:09:00] | cmt: | mplayer -vo xv test.mpg |
| [08:09:00] | netrix: | cmt: hmm .. i looked there but the two fields lead me to believe i have to have mythbackend installed right on the mysql db server which is what i am trying to avoid. <??> |
| [08:09:00] | docelmo: | ok kewl |
| [08:09:00] | docelmo: | brb |
| [08:10:00] | cmt: | netrix: let me check something |
| [08:10:00] | netrix: | cmt: sure. |
| [08:11:00] | netrix: | cmt: the two fields are 'ip address for <server>' and 'master server ip address'. |
| [08:11:00] | docelmo: | cmt it works.. Video looks good.. Dont know bout audio since I dont have speakers on this machine yet.. |
| [08:11:00] | netrix: | docelmo: what card? |
| [08:12:00] | docelmo: | PVR-150 |
| [08:12:00] | docelmo: | 79 buks @ Circuit City |
| [08:12:00] | docelmo: | Once I get the bugs out.. I am gonna buy another one |
| [08:12:00] | netrix: | docelmo: did you copy the audio frimware off the cdrom? |
| [08:12:00] | docelmo: | no |
| [08:13:00] | netrix: | docelmo: without doing that you might have issues with audio. |
| [08:13:00] | cmt: | netrix: check the .mythtv directory of the user that runs the mythfrontend |
| [08:13:00] | netrix: | docelmo: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=PVR150-500Firmware |
| [08:13:00] | cmt: | theres a file called mysql.txt |
| [08:13:00] | cmt: | yeah, thats what i was thinking... |
| [08:13:00] | docelmo: | Hmm.. Get the firmware cmt? |
| [08:13:00] | cmt: | check the output from dmesg... it should tell you you are missing firmware |
| [08:13:00] | cmt: | that page tells you how to copy files |
| [08:14:00] | cmt: | are you familiar with linux? |
| [08:14:00] | docelmo: | Very.. gimme a sec.. Lemme copy |
| [08:14:00] | cmt: | cool |
| [08:14:00] | docelmo: | Ever heard of asterisk? |
| [08:14:00] | netrix: | docelmo: here's my pvr 150/500 notes -> http://pastebin.ca/34782 |
| [08:15:00] | netrix: | docelmo: i have the 500 and had to do this in order to make the audio work. ymmv. |
| [08:15:00] | cmt: | i used to use knoppmyth... but i found after a while it got on my nerves.... jarrod wilson has some great notes on making a box with fedora... i like the added control |
| [08:15:00] | docelmo: | k |
| [08:15:00] | netrix: | cmt: anyways, i know about the mysql.txt but it seems to be for the frontends. |
| [08:16:00] | netrix: | cmt: i can't find a db setting for the backend, i am wondering if the backend just assumes the db is always local. |
| [08:16:00] | netrix: | which sucks, because i want my mythconverg on a dedicated db server. :( |
| [08:16:00] | cmt: | it seems to me that you should be able to split it.... |
| [08:16:00] | cmt: | they thought of everything else ;) |
| [08:16:00] | netrix: | cmt: yeah me too. |
| [08:16:00] | docelmo: | where did you get this? pvr_1.18.21.22254_inf.zip |
| [08:17:00] | netrix: | docelmo: somewhere off the ivitv site. lemmie dig. |
| [08:17:00] | cmt: | that comes from hauppauge originally |
| [08:17:00] | netrix: | docelmo: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [08:18:00] | netrix: | cmt: i'll be dammed if i can find where to set it. |
| [08:18:00] | cmt: | thats the only place i know where to look |
| [08:18:00] | netrix: | cmt: i backed up and restored the db and i'm all set to go, but i can't find the setting. |
| [08:19:00] | cmt: | i wish i could help you |
| [08:19:00] | netrix: | cmt: i might have to break down and ask in the non users channel |
| [08:19:00] | netrix: | cmt: np. thanks for trying. |
| [08:19:00] | cmt: | i assume you googled? |
| [08:19:00] | netrix: | cmt: of course. |
| [08:19:00] | cmt: | hehe |
| [08:21:00] | cmt: | netrix: does the backend actually talk to the database? |
| [08:21:00] | cmt: | netrix: or is it just the frontend |
| [08:21:00] | netrix: | cmt: i assume it does. |
| [08:21:00] | netrix: | cmt: good point tho., |
| [08:21:00] | cmt: | did you try it by just modifying the mysql.txt? |
| [08:21:00] | cmt: | it cant hurt |
| [08:21:00] | docelmo: | What do I do if I only have B or C version of this file HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [08:21:00] | netrix: | cmt: i keep seeing ancidotal references online that says "the mythbackend is the one with the sql server..." |
| [08:21:00] | cmt: | you only need one |
| [08:22:00] | cmt: | ah |
| [08:22:00] | cmt: | maybe |
| [08:22:00] | netrix: | cmt: not yet, but i will give it a whirl |
| [08:22:00] | docelmo: | nevermind got it. |
| [08:23:00] | cmt: | docelmo: fyi... i was missing audio on individual channels... i upgraded the firmware and my ivtv to 0.4.1 and that fixed it... but im not sure if the firmware or the new ivtv did it.... so if you have problems, upgrade to 0.4.1 |
| [08:24:00] | netrix: | cmt: nope doesn't work. |
| [08:24:00] | netrix: | damn. |
| [08:24:00] | cmt: | docelmo: also i had to hardcode the cardtype.... add options ivtv cardtype=6 to your modprobe.conf if you have issues |
| [08:24:00] | cmt: | netrix:hmmmm |
| [08:24:00] | cmt: | well, theres gotta be a way |
| [08:25:00] | cmt: | netrix: heres a thought.... create an ssh tunnel from 3306 on your backend to 3306 on your db server |
| [08:25:00] | cmt: | if theres no other way around that is |
| [08:25:00] | netrix: | cmt: yeah i could do that, but it's not too clean. |
| [08:25:00] | cmt: | no, but it would work.... im not sure how the throughput would be |
| [08:26:00] | netrix: | cmt: instead i might consider putting the backend on another system, but thats not what i wanted to do. |
| [08:26:00] | ** netrix shrugs ** | |
| [08:26:00] | netrix: | brb. |
| [08:26:00] | cmt: | why not put the backend on the db server? |
| [08:26:00] | netrix: | cmt: because it taints my _dedicated_ db server. =) |
| [08:26:00] | cmt: | hehe |
| [08:26:00] | cmt: | understandable |
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| [08:29:00] | docelmo: | ok now not to sound dumb but how do I know if this firmware took? I typed ivtv -a and it showed me the card just fine.. |
| [08:29:00] | docelmo: | didnt see anything about the firmware tho |
| [08:29:00] | cmt: | look at the ivtv stuff in dmesg |
| [08:29:00] | docelmo: | I also ran modprobe again |
| [08:29:00] | cmt: | it will complain if its missing a firmware file |
| [08:29:00] | docelmo: | ok 1 sec |
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| [08:30:00] | netrix: | i think i got it ... |
| [08:30:00] | cmt: | ? |
| [08:31:00] | docelmo: | ivtvctl -a | grep dmesg doesnt show anything |
| [08:31:00] | netrix: | cmt: /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [08:31:00] | cmt: | no.... run dmesg > temp |
| [08:32:00] | netrix: | thats where the backend db settings are. |
| [08:32:00] | cmt: | then look at the file |
| [08:32:00] | docelmo: | ohh ok |
| [08:32:00] | netrix: | just tried it. works great! i have successfully moved the db. |
| [08:32:00] | ** netrix cheers. ** | |
| [08:32:00] | cmt: | that file looks the same on my box though.... |
| [08:33:00] | cmt: | do the parameters just behave differently when its in /root? |
| [08:33:00] | netrix: | it does, but that is what the backend uses. the clients copy /etc/mysql/mysql.txt to ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and use that. |
| [08:33:00] | netrix: | er, clients = frontends |
| [08:34:00] | cmt: | hmmmm crafty.... |
| [08:34:00] | cmt: | im surprised that wasnt documented anywhere |
| [08:34:00] | netrix: | cmt: it's strange, but that is how it works. |
| [08:34:00] | cmt: | well, good to know |
| [08:35:00] | cmt: | in case i ever have extra hardware to create a dedicated db server ;) |
| [08:35:00] | netrix: | cmt: i put a bogus db name in there and when i restarted the backend i saw an error trying to connect to the bogus name in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend. |
| [08:35:00] | netrix: | cmt: i just wanted lessen the load on the backend machine which already has all my tuners and is an nfs root for 4 machines. |
| [08:35:00] | cmt: | ah |
| [08:35:00] | docelmo: | brb |
| [08:36:00] | cmt: | i only have one machine and (sometimes) an xbox frontend in the living room |
| [08:36:00] | cmt: | but mostly i use the single system in my bedroom |
| [08:36:00] | cmt: | im just a poor grad student ;) |
| [08:37:00] | netrix: | cmt: i was going to do the same with the xbox i had, but i ebay'ed it. |
| [08:37:00] | netrix: | cmt: does the xbox work well? |
| [08:37:00] | cmt: | eh... so so... the remote control response isnt great... thats my biggest complaint |
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| [08:37:00] | cmt: | for what i use, it isnt bad |
| [08:38:00] | netrix: | cmt: i have a frontend connected to a tv, was wondering how it compared to using an xbox instead. |
| [08:38:00] | netrix: | cmt: do you use the dvd remote as the myth remote? |
| [08:38:00] | cmt: | yes, i believe thats the only way |
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| [08:39:00] | cmt: | actually, there is a plugin in for the xbox media center that looks promising... |
| [08:39:00] | netrix: | cmt: cool. wish i had tried it before i got rid of the xbox. |
| [08:39:00] | cmt: | well, you can get used ones cheap |
| [08:39:00] | cmt: | hundred bucks or so |
| [08:39:00] | netrix: | cmt: can you easily switch between it being a regular xbox and myth xbox? |
| [08:39:00] | netrix: | i never modded my xbox or anything when i had it. it was always stock. |
| [08:39:00] | cmt: | well, the way mine is, i can still play games. the only thing i cant do is use xbox live |
| [08:40:00] | docelmo: | ok its bitching now about codecs again.. says somethign like go setup recording profiles |
| [08:40:00] | cmt: | supposedly the software i use makes it easy to go back and forth, but ive never bothered with xbox live |
| [08:40:00] | cmt: | docelmo: in the tv settings, what video and audio codecs are you using? |
| [08:40:00] | docelmo: | default? |
| [08:40:00] | cmt: | yes |
| [08:40:00] | netrix: | cmt: your not missing much with xbox live anyways. |
| [08:41:00] | cmt: | no, i dont really care |
| [08:41:00] | cmt: | i have a larger hd in mine too... which makes video game rentals fun ;) |
| [08:41:00] | netrix: | awsome, switched over my frontend running in vmware to use the ded. sql server. works perfectly. |
| [08:41:00] | cmt: | very nice |
| [08:41:00] | cmt: | i would have never caught that |
| [08:41:00] | netrix: | cmt: hah ... yeah i should have modded mine. maybe if i did i would have kept it. |
| [08:42:00] | docelmo: | What should my settings be? Also dmesg gave good info.. Says everything is good to go |
| [08:42:00] | cmt: | actually, that was the reason i bought it was solely to mod it... |
| [08:42:00] | cmt: | i was a ps2 guy |
| [08:42:00] | cmt: | let me look at mine docelmo |
| [08:43:00] | docelmo: | k thank! |
| [08:43:00] | cmt: | you should be using a mpeg-2 hardware encoder |
| [08:43:00] | cmt: | stream mpeg-2 ps |
| [08:43:00] | cmt: | did you say you were having problems with the audio codec? |
| [08:43:00] | docelmo: | ok lemme check |
| [08:43:00] | docelmo: | yes.. bitches bout that also |
| [08:44:00] | cmt: | i assume youre using a recent knoppmyth? |
| [08:45:00] | cmt: | it might also be worth checking /var/log/mythbackend.log |
| [08:45:00] | cmt: | i think thats the path anyway |
| [08:49:00] | docelmo: | same problem.. Says to go set it up.. Says unsupported codec |
| [08:49:00] | docelmo: | The hardware says PVR-250/350 |
| [08:49:00] | docelmo: | or something close to it |
| [08:50:00] | cmt: | you mean in mythtv? |
| [08:50:00] | docelmo: | yes |
| [08:51:00] | docelmo: | when I configure it under tv, encoders, etc |
| [08:51:00] | cmt: | can you get me the full error from the myth error log? |
| [08:51:00] | docelmo: | And I have mpeg2 ps |
| [08:51:00] | docelmo: | Is there anyway to know what codec its using to send? |
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| [08:53:00] | cmt: | well, whats confusing me is that mine "just worked" once i got ivtv working, which yours is if you were able to watch the video |
| [08:53:00] | cmt: | did you look in the myth error log yet? |
| [08:53:00] | docelmo: | ya.. hmm.. no |
| [08:53:00] | cmt: | it sometimes gives more descriptive errors |
| [08:54:00] | cmt: | also, try running mythfrontend from a terminal.... some errors will show up there |
| [08:54:00] | docelmo: | I did.. Those are the errors I am seeing |
| [08:54:00] | docelmo: | Im looking at the log for backend nothing out of the oridnary |
| [08:55:00] | cmt: | ok |
| [08:55:00] | cmt: | its not a backend error... so thats not necessarily surprising |
| [08:55:00] | cmt: | maybe you need to install libmpeg or something? |
| [08:55:00] | cmt: | but im not sure |
| [08:56:00] | docelmo: | hmmm.. Need to find a KnoppMyth person.. |
| [08:56:00] | docelmo: | You didnt use KnopMyth did you? |
| [08:56:00] | cmt: | i used to... but to be honest, it was stuff like this that got me to go to fedora |
| [08:57:00] | cmt: | i just felt a little powerless.... which is why i use linux to begin with |
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| [08:58:00] | docelmo: | ahh.. I prefer CentOS maybe I will mess with it tomorrow if I cant get this to work.. but it was just so simple to setup.. |
| [08:58:00] | cmt: | i think thats part of the problem.... linux isnt simple ;) |
| [08:58:00] | cmt: | ive never heard of centos |
| [08:59:00] | cmt: | with fedora, the rpms work flawlessly too.... google fedora myth... there are some step by step instructions |
| [09:00:00] | docelmo: | nice.. will do tomorrow |
| [09:01:00] | docelmo: | CentOS is == Red Hat Enterprise |
| [09:01:00] | docelmo: | Work well on 64bit and Multithreads |
| [09:01:00] | docelmo: | like mine.. My main back end is a Dual Xeon 3.2 with 4 GB Ram and eventually 4 Tunners |
| [09:01:00] | cmt: | i just started looking at it |
| [09:01:00] | cmt: | damn |
| [09:02:00] | docelmo: | I am planning to run my whole house off of this thing |
| [09:02:00] | cmt: | is it just as polished as rhel? in that it includes the commercial stuff like java and realplayer etc |
| [09:02:00] | docelmo: | I have GiG-E running thru 90% of my house |
| [09:02:00] | cmt: | wow |
| [09:02:00] | cmt: | and can you use rhel rpms? |
| [09:02:00] | docelmo: | java yes.. realplayer you would have to download.. |
| [09:02:00] | docelmo: | and yes.. |
| [09:03:00] | docelmo: | 100% compatiable with all RPM packages |
| [09:03:00] | docelmo: | so far I have seen |
| [09:03:00] | cmt: | im a grad student... one of our labs has rhel installed. i was impressed how polished it was, even compared to fc4 |
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| [09:05:00] | docelmo: | Enterprise is the way to go if you can do it.. but I am off to bed.. Thanks for your help.. |
| [09:05:00] | cmt: | no prob |
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| [09:58:00] | OhNoNotHim: | arg im not in the sleeping mode |
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| [10:02:00] | laga: | oh not not him _again_ ;) |
| [10:02:00] | laga: | good morning and merry xmess |
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| [10:10:00] | kreg: | hi |
| [10:12:00] | kreg: | windows media center edition does not work with the video hardware of my hp laptop. ATI Radeon IGP 320 |
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| [10:12:00] | kreg: | all i really want is a media player. can mythtv just be used for xvid playback via samaba server? |
| [10:12:00] | laga: | no, mythtv is actually more like a personal video recorder. just for playback, you could use freevo |
| [10:13:00] | kreg: | oh, i was hoping for the compatibility with the remote |
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| [11:47:00] | Sloncho: | hi. how do I setup the video output for liveTv ro be something different than Xv? Actually what works for me so far is only xshm (at least that is how I convinced mplayer and xine to play video on my TV |
| [11:48:00] | laga: | mythtv will automagically fall back to x11, but that's very slow. |
| [11:48:00] | Sloncho: | using Xv displays the tv picture only on my main display, but not on the "cloned" tv display |
| [11:48:00] | Sloncho: | laga: as far as it work, it will not fall back. so can I force it somehow? |
| [11:48:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [11:49:00] | laga: | NO_XV=1 mythfrontend |
| [11:49:00] | laga: | should work |
| [11:51:00] | Sloncho: | laga: yes, it works. but it is much slower than xshm, used by mplayer and xine. can I make livetv to use it as well? |
| [12:01:00] | laga: | i don't think so |
| [12:02:00] | tstm: | You'd think that setting up mythtv is not something you would do on Christmas Eve. |
| [12:05:00] | laga: | hehe. i'm busy with wrapping presents and deleting old recordings. there's some good stuff on TV on christmas |
| [12:05:00] | Sloncho: | no choice, the standalone dvd/divx player broke :) |
| [12:05:00] | laga: | hehehe |
| [12:05:00] | Sloncho: | and i'm planning a new tv for me, so i better know how to deal with it |
| [12:06:00] | Sloncho: | the other solution will be to set the tv to be primary :) |
| [12:07:00] | Sloncho: | anyway, thanks for the help. you are right, better go celebrate :) |
| [12:08:00] | Sloncho: | btw, where is appropriate to put such a suggestions / feature requests for mythtv – bugizlla? |
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| [12:30:00] | Coume: | Hi everyone |
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| [12:57:00] | Hoxzer: | do you guys know is there any chance to get mx400 support tvoverscan |
| [12:57:00] | Hoxzer: | nvidia said I have to buy GF4 ;/ |
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| [13:29:00] | laga: | with current SVN, what happens when i press R while watching livetv? will it record the whole program like if i scheduled it? |
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| [13:30:00] | Arie`: | Hi everyone |
| [13:30:00] | Arie`: | Anyone around who knows how to fix problems regarding "can't switch channels" and "Couldn't find any available channel" ? |
| [13:34:00] | Hoxzer: | nvidia said I have to buy GF4 ;/ |
| [13:34:00] | Hoxzer: | aargh wrong paste |
| [13:34:00] | Hoxzer: | so guys, do you have any idea is it possible to setup tvoverscan in linux for GF2? |
| [13:34:00] | Hoxzer: | ;D damn have to buy new card |
| [13:34:00] | Hoxzer: | wasted like 30 euros |
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| [13:37:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: take a look at nvtv |
| [13:40:00] | Hoxzer: | I can give a try |
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| [13:58:00] | Hoxzer: | Laga: btw nvidia said me that tvoverscan is only supported by GF4 or newer |
| [13:59:00] | Hoxzer: | so do you know any guy who had got it work with GF2 or GF3? |
| [13:59:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: try nvtv. |
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| [14:02:00] | laga: | wow. that was coume on irc. there are still miracles |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | wow, he came back :). heya Coume |
| [14:02:00] | Coume: | lol, hiya laga :) |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | :) |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | how is it going? |
| [14:03:00] | Coume: | not too bad stuck in england for christmas, so within 30min I will be doing some code modification on the forum. and you? christmas in family? |
| [14:03:00] | laga: | yep. blech. ;) |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | but i'm currently messing with the mythtv box and going to get drunk tonight, so it's all good ;) |
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| [14:04:00] | Coume: | eheh :) |
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| [14:06:00] | laga: | i hear you don't have to bother with the closing hour anymore. i hope you're putting the extended drinking time to some good use :) |
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| [14:07:00] | Coume: | yeah that;s a good thingie but that hs never been much of a prbl, we always end up at someone's place. |
| [14:07:00] | Coume: | is the 26 bank holliday in germany? |
| [14:07:00] | laga: | hehe. sounds good ;) |
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| [14:07:00] | laga: | Coume: yes. |
| [14:09:00] | ** Coume running to the kitchen... are the steaks burning? oups ** | |
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| [14:14:00] | _willcooke_: | So, what's the deal with widescreen tvs? Do I need to make a mode that is 16:9, or do I keep the resolution the same but flag it as widescreen, or what! :) |
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| [14:49:00] | ivor: | gaah... anyone ever tried cleaning a cats teeth? |
| [14:49:00] | ivor: | chrissake |
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| [15:04:00] | Hoxzer: | Laga: seems like nvtv is doing it |
| [15:04:00] | Hoxzer: | can I somehow manually set tv-overscan? |
| [15:04:00] | Hoxzer: | because its either too large or too small |
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| [15:08:00] | _matt: | Can anyone help with a segfault question? |
| [15:09:00] | _matt: | I just recently upgraded my mythtv box from Kubuntu 5.04 to 5.10. Since then, I've had to do the obligatory touchup to my audio settings (since the kernel seems to see the card differently than before) |
| [15:10:00] | _matt: | and I am now, once again, able to watch and record tv. |
| [15:10:00] | _matt: | However, when I attempt to get into the program scheduler MythFrontend segfaults. |
| [15:10:00] | _matt: | This is 0.18.1 |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: just don't buy crap the next time :) you can adjust overscan in mythfrontend |
| [15:18:00] | levon: | merry xmas to you all, people |
| [15:19:00] | Cromz: | huh? mythy xmas? what? |
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| [15:19:00] | hackmiester[MTV]: | nice, Cromz |
| [15:20:00] | Cromz: | :> |
| [15:20:00] | ** hackmiester[MTV] diminishes (turning this box off) ** | |
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| [15:29:00] | Hoxzer: | Laga: do you mean I setup gui heigth and width? |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | right. |
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| [15:31:00] | TylerGalus: | hi all.. gots a question.. i have myth running well.. but how much drive space should i expect it to use per program? (it's about 1gb for 1/2 hour) do i have a storage option besides mpeg-2? |
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| [15:32:00] | laga: | you can have it transcode your recordings to mpeg4 |
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| [15:32:00] | TylerGalus: | is that set in mythtv-setup? |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | no, in the transcoding profiles |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | in mythfrontend |
| [15:34:00] | TylerGalus: | ok found that.. next question how do i schedule it to do transcoding? |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can configure myth to auto transcode after a recording finishes |
| [15:36:00] | laga: | and he beat me to it again. merry christmas GreyFoxx :) |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or there is a keystrok you can use, I don't remember what one offhand |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Merry XMas |
| [15:36:00] | laga: | X |
| [15:36:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [15:36:00] | laga: | watch a recording and hit X |
| [15:37:00] | TylerGalus: | ok i'm assuming i want to wait for no recording to be happening while that's going on correct? |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | no reason to wait |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you are recording with a pvr card it's not usuaing much of any cpu anyway |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | so transcoding at the same time wont hurt anything |
| [15:38:00] | TylerGalus: | ahh ok.. i'm a recent winblows convert and everything on there used cpu |
| [15:38:00] | ** laga is currently using geoffrey's mpeg2fix to save space by cutting out the commercials ** | |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I ha ven't actually looked at that , does it work well? |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you running it manually at the commandline ? |
| [15:39:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: it works quite good for me. |
| [15:39:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i have to run it manually because it won'T work for many recordings when started within mythtv |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | are you passing it the cutlist or is it reading it from the db ? |
| [15:39:00] | TylerGalus: | well thanks.. hopefully mpeg-4 will hold me until i can get a much bigger hard drive for video storage.. right now it's sitting on the 120gb drive my root is on |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | i believe it uses the wrong transcoding profile. something is just wrong there, on the failed transcode jobs, mythtranscode is started with the --mpegf2 fl |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | --mpeg2 flag* |
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| [15:40:00] | eidolon: | mornin folks. |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: it reads the cutlist from the DB. make sure to pass it the -c and -s parameters, --infile won't read the cutlist from the DB |
| [15:41:00] | ** eidolon is trying to get the next level of emulators working... moohahah ** | |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Can you show me an example commandline you use ? |
| [15:41:00] | TylerGalus: | well happy holidays all.. thanks for the help again |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: of course. |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll go grab it and download it |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: mythtranscode --mpeg2 --honorcutlist -c 1021 -s "2005-12–23 12:20:00" |
| [15:41:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh back to try to get mythtv werkin |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you already have it if you have a recent svn checkout :) |
| [15:41:00] | OhNoNotHim: | the tv randomly started working |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | duh, hehe cool |
| [15:42:00] | eidolon: | so... can someone give me the $0.25 definition of what the difference between xmess and xmame is? is xmame focused pretty much solely on cabinet games, while xmess has a bunch of other emulators in it? |
| [15:42:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: the command line above will give you can chanid_starttime.mpg-tmp file, just rename it and run mythcommflag --rebuild afterwards |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | xmess is basically a gui frontend to xmame and potentially other emulators |
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| [15:42:00] | ** laga is having a very bad english day *sigh* ** | |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh thanks |
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| [15:43:00] | eidolon: | hrm. okay.... |
| [15:43:00] | eidolon: | i'm trying to get the lynx emulation working, but i've never used xmess. |
| [15:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use either of those so I can't help ya |
| [15:44:00] | eidolon: | 'sok. my goal is to have like a dozen emulators. so far 3 are working, thsi'll be the fourth. :) |
| [15:44:00] | eidolon: | i hope. |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | adding these to mythgame, or just getting them running in general ? |
| [15:46:00] | eidolon: | well, first getting them running. |
| [15:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [15:46:00] | eidolon: | one step at a time. the SNES, NES, and Mame emulators are all working. |
| [15:46:00] | eidolon: | (in mythgame) |
| [15:46:00] | eidolon: | my son has become a total bomberman and mario brothers addict. |
| [15:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:47:00] | eidolon: | iu'm having a real usb joystick problem though... |
| [15:47:00] | eidolon: | my usb bus resets on occasion, which reassigns /dev/js0 and /dev/js1 to /dev/js1 and /dev/js3 |
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| [15:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | weird |
| [15:48:00] | eidolon: | well, makes sense in how usbhid assigns /dev devices. |
| [15:48:00] | eidolon: | but i just want it to stop doing it :) my problem to solve, just whining. |
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| [15:52:00] | Kelerion: | guys – just got my new 42" plasma yesterday (woohoo!) and am just trying to make it work nice with myth.. all seems to be going well so-far (got it all hooked up to the tv's pc input) – have set the dpi to 100 – have downgraded urw-fonts (don't know if that was needed) and I have it running at 848x480 (tv's suggestion) – but the fonts all look naff.. very pixelated.. any ideas? |
| [15:52:00] | ivor: | Kelerion: pixelated or scruffy? |
| [15:52:00] | Kelerion: | pixelated |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | but they look beautiful when I vnc in! lol |
| [15:53:00] | Kelerion: | and – the picture is off but 20 or so pixels at each side in the menu's.. if thats related |
| [15:53:00] | ivor: | well you're running a plasma so you'll be able to see each and every pixel in all its glory |
| [15:53:00] | ivor: | haven't tried/bothered myself. but you could try turning on font anti-aliasing |
| [15:54:00] | Kelerion: | looks nice enough directly from the tv |
| [15:54:00] | ivor: | Kelerion: you mean the fonts don't look blocky on a normal TV? |
| [15:55:00] | Kelerion: | when I hook the plasma directly to the sat-box.. all is nice.. just when it's on pc |
| [15:55:00] | ivor: | you've lost me. |
| [15:55:00] | ivor: | what is nice? |
| [15:56:00] | Kelerion: | the picture.. sat-box's epg.. etc etc |
| [15:56:00] | Kelerion: | was referring to the " well you're running a plasma so you'll be able to see each and every pixel in all its glory" |
| [15:56:00] | ivor: | I was referring to the fonts. |
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| [15:57:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. now I'm even more confused.. lol |
| [15:57:00] | ivor: | the sat box will be pumping out 720x576 or something similar... and it will be using anti-aliased fonts or at least fonts tweaked for a pal output |
| [15:58:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. gotcha |
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| [16:11:00] | will_: | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The Dishwasher has just blown up! |
| [16:12:00] | ivor: | will_: your wife's exploded?? christ. |
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| [16:12:00] | will_: | Worse than that, her parents are coming tomorrow, and now I'm going to have to do it! |
| [16:13:00] | ivor: | paper plates. |
| [16:13:00] | will_: | Good thinking! |
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| [16:19:00] | _matt: | anyone got any ideas on the segfault problem with Program Scheduler? |
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| [16:27:00] | laga: | will_: hehe. my dad found out that my toilet was leaking (only fresh water, fortunately) when water was dripping from the wall of his bathroom. |
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| [16:35:00] | will_: | laga, could have be a lot worse! |
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| [16:38:00] | will_: | OK, I give up. How do you get the DVD rip to actually start? |
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| [16:44:00] | eidolon: | grrr. i -cannot- get xmess to run the lynx emulator properly :( |
| [16:50:00] | will_: | Right, time to start the festivities. Merry Crimbo all. |
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| [16:52:00] | Kabutor: | hi, where did I have to put catver.ini in the SVN version? all is working fine, but I get no year/system/gamename sort |
| [16:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | it doesn't use that anymore |
| [16:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | instead you need to import the romdb data |
| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | then clear and rescan for games |
| [16:54:00] | Kabutor: | i did that but only get the name of the rom bdash for example |
| [16:54:00] | Kabutor: | umh. what you mean with import romdb data?¿ |
| [16:55:00] | Kabutor: | import from where? how? any link or something? |
| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is a set of data than you can import into mythgame if you want to get the rom meta data |
| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's included in the mythgame source |
| [16:55:00] | Kabutor: | I want that :) Ill have a look there.. thx |
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| [16:57:00] | Kabutor: | any hint where I can find those? |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | find what ? |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | the source ? |
| [16:57:00] | Kabutor: | that database, I have the svn version in the computer but dont know where to find |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | the romdb sql data is at the root of the mythgame source, which I assume is how you installed the svn version of myth:) |
| [16:59:00] | Kabutor: | romdb-20051116–01 ? |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | unzip it |
| [16:59:00] | Kabutor: | done |
| [17:00:00] | Kabutor: | and now? |
| [17:00:00] | Kabutor: | did I insert into myth database? |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg < file.sql (Can't remember the exact file that was in the zip) |
| [17:00:00] | docelmo: | Anyone here use KnoppMythtv and PVR-150? |
| [17:00:00] | docelmo: | Im having codec issues |
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| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kabutor: Actually you might have to comment out the table creation at the top |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I should update the version in the svn source to have that commented out by default |
| [17:01:00] | Kabutor: | umh |
| [17:05:00] | docelmo: | Can anyone give me a minute of their time? I have looked everywhere for an answer and was unsuccessful |
| [17:05:00] | eidolon: | what sort of codec issues? |
| [17:05:00] | ** eidolon is running knoppmyth with a pvr150 with no problesm. ** | |
| [17:06:00] | Kabutor: | GreyFoxx, thx Im busy now I try that later meery xmas ;) |
| [17:06:00] | docelmo: | Well when I go to run mythtv for live stream it kicks back that it cant find a valid codec. It says using jpeg or something by default then the audio does the same |
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| [17:07:00] | eidolon: | hm. not ringing any bells. |
| [17:09:00] | docelmo: | Basically its selling to to goto recording preferences and set them and they are. |
| [17:09:00] | docelmo: | I have ivtv set to PVR-150 and MythTV's config to use a PVR-250/350 |
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| [17:13:00] | docelmo: | eidolon, what do you think? Format and reinstall? Try different version of knoppmyth? scream? |
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| [17:14:00] | eidolon: | honestly, i'm not sure. i'm not really a mythtv expert. "it just works" for me :) |
| [17:14:00] | at1as: | Anyone seen issues with program guide segmentation faults? |
| [17:15:00] | at1as: | I've checked the FAQ and not found anything about this issue. |
| [17:15:00] | _matt: | I've been trying to ask about them too.... |
| [17:16:00] | _matt: | Does finder work? |
| [17:16:00] | at1as: | yup |
| [17:16:00] | docelmo: | eidolon, what did you do to make your's work? What Version KnoppMyth are you using? |
| [17:17:00] | docelmo: | Did you just install it and poof? or something else? |
| [17:18:00] | eidolon: | mmm, whatever the latest knoppmyth was... i have the cd around somewhere... still had to set up the tuner card and the like, but it mostly worked. |
| [17:19:00] | eidolon: | i've been doing a lot of work in the emulators and mythweb for the most part. once the basic was set up, i haven't used it much. |
| [17:23:00] | docelmo: | was it this version R5A26 |
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| [17:27:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm...in gentoo...does anyone know how to get rid of the picture on the screen after you shutdown the xserver? |
| [17:27:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i have a geforce4 440mx |
| [17:27:00] | OhNoNotHim: | using the nvidia driver |
| [17:27:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i run the xserver on my tv |
| [17:28:00] | OhNoNotHim: | but when i shut it down, the console shows up on my monitor (good) and a very distorted, rolling diagonal version of the console shows up on my tv (bad) |
| [17:28:00] | OhNoNotHim: | anyone have any luck with that issue and/or know how to fix it :-? |
| [17:28:00] | ivor: | OhNoNotHim: what happens as you boot the machine? do you get a text console on the tv? |
| [17:28:00] | OhNoNotHim: | no |
| [17:29:00] | ivor: | you also get a distorted picture? |
| [17:29:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i have to have the option enabled in the xorg.con |
| [17:29:00] | OhNoNotHim: | f |
| [17:29:00] | OhNoNotHim: | that forces the display onto the t |
| [17:29:00] | OhNoNotHim: | v |
| [17:29:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i get nothing on it durning bootup |
| [17:30:00] | ivor: | k. guess you need to get the nvidia driver to turn off the tvout. |
| [17:30:00] | OhNoNotHim: | mmk...how do i do that? |
| [17:30:00] | ivor: | is there any sort of nvidia utility for controlling stuff? |
| [17:30:00] | OhNoNotHim: | nvidia-settings....but its pretty limited |
| [17:31:00] | ivor: | is it a command line app? |
| [17:31:00] | OhNoNotHim: | nope |
| [17:31:00] | Kelerion: | gtk |
| [17:31:00] | ivor: | is there any sort of command line app for nvidia? |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can access and set all of the settings at the commandline with nvidia-settings |
| [17:32:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ah |
| [17:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | nvidia-settings -q=all returns all the current values, nvidia-settings --assign="variable=value" to set one |
| [17:32:00] | ivor: | there you go. |
| [17:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | building my box and i cant get it to get to its first boot |
| [17:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | im wondering if i iinstalled my cpu incorrectly ? |
| [17:33:00] | OhNoNotHim: | put a heat sync in right? |
| [17:33:00] | OhNoNotHim: | GreyFoxx: have to have the diplay up to use nvidia-settings |
| [17:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | yea it came with the chip |
| [17:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | i powered the fan too |
| [17:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | fan funs good |
| [17:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | same with power supply fan |
| [17:33:00] | OhNoNotHim: | lol |
| [17:33:00] | |Slurpee|: | but no video |
| [17:33:00] | OhNoNotHim: | um |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | OhNoNotHim: Easy, just run "export DISPLAY=:0" first |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | but yeah, X has to be running |
| [17:34:00] | OhNoNotHim: | Slurpee....hit something really hard if this is the problem |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was commenting on nvidia-settings, not your problem :) |
| [17:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | ononothim, ???? |
| [17:34:00] | OhNoNotHim: | did you switch the thinggy on the powersupply to the right power? |
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| [17:34:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ie 160 vs 220 (+/- 50V) |
| [17:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | no |
| [17:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | this is a old box |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | old shell |
| [17:35:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh i never have those numbers straight |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | brandnew hardware |
| [17:35:00] | OhNoNotHim: | is the powersupply new? |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | no |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | it was in the box |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | its only a 250 |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | im waiting on my 500 |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | but i just have most basic hardware in |
| [17:35:00] | OhNoNotHim: | and you are sure its switched to the right power? |
| [17:35:00] | ivor: | |Slurpee|: 1. does it beep on power up? 2. do the keyboard led's flash? |
| [17:35:00] | |Slurpee|: | on boar video, lan. hard drive, memory, hdd |
| [17:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | i just switchd the power |
| [17:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | it was at 115 |
| [17:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | now its 230 |
| [17:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | brb |
| [17:36:00] | ** ivor buries head in hands. ** | |
| [17:36:00] | OhNoNotHim: | whats in your wall :-p |
| [17:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | should i not switch it ? |
| [17:36:00] | OhNoNotHim: | it depends...if its wrong you should ;-) |
| [17:36:00] | ** ivor hides behind something solid. ** | |
| [17:37:00] | OhNoNotHim: | are you in the us |
| [17:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | yes |
| [17:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | im in the states |
| [17:37:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm |
| [17:37:00] | |Slurpee|: | go for it ? |
| [17:37:00] | OhNoNotHim: | 115 should be the right one |
| [17:38:00] | |Slurpee|: | so dont plug it in ? |
| [17:38:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh i dunno if anything bad would happen if you booted it up at 230... |
| [17:38:00] | OhNoNotHim: | but im not sure |
| [17:38:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i wouldnt test it |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | any other ideas |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | i read on a site that i might have to pop out the cmos ? |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | since it is the first boot |
| [17:39:00] | ivor: | |Slurpee|: 1. does it beep on power up? 2. do the keyboard led's flash? |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | http://www.mysuperpc.com/build/pc_first_boot.shtml |
| [17:39:00] | OhNoNotHim: | what ivor said |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | no beep |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | i didnt put in the pc sound connector |
| [17:39:00] | OhNoNotHim: | does it show any sign of life |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | no sign of life |
| [17:39:00] | OhNoNotHim: | when you push the power button |
| [17:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | no video |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | when i push the pwoer button all the fans turn on |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | and seems to boot |
| [17:40:00] | ivor: | |Slurpee|: plug in the pc-speaker and see if it beeps when you power it on |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | but no video |
| [17:40:00] | ivor: | "seems to boot" ? in what way |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | sounds to boot |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | it sounds like its booting up |
| [17:40:00] | ivor: | ? |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | but i have no visual to tell |
| [17:40:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh sure the monitor has power? |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | yea |
| [17:40:00] | |Slurpee|: | im on it now |
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| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | im just switching the cable back n forth |
| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | jpw1 ? |
| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | what is that ? |
| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | 12v connector for cpu ? |
| [17:41:00] | dcstimm: | 0.19, any idea when? |
| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | i see it in my mobo manual |
| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | and i dont have nething connected to it |
| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have the fan for the cpu pluged it |
| [17:41:00] | |Slurpee|: | but i dunno what jpw1 is |
| [17:41:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm |
| [17:42:00] | OhNoNotHim: | that first link you sent seemed like a good idea |
| [17:42:00] | OhNoNotHim: | http://www.mysuperpc.com/build/pc_first_boot.shtml |
| [17:42:00] | |Slurpee|: | yea |
| [17:42:00] | |Slurpee|: | but i can get the damn cmos out |
| [17:42:00] | |Slurpee|: | and this board doesnt have the jumper |
| [17:42:00] | |Slurpee|: | cant get out |
| [17:42:00] | dcstimm: | 0.19, any idea when? |
| [17:42:00] | Kelerion: | jpw1 is usually the CPU Voltage Selection jumper |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | dct: likely in the next couple weeks |
| [17:43:00] | ivor: | there's no need to reset the cmos. you need to find out why your machine isn't booting. |
| [17:43:00] | dcstimm: | thanks |
| [17:43:00] | |Slurpee|: | ivor, thats what i figured |
| [17:43:00] | OhNoNotHim: | |Slurpee|: what about the little battery |
| [17:44:00] | OhNoNotHim: | pop that out while you are on irc |
| [17:44:00] | |Slurpee|: | the cmos battery ? |
| [17:44:00] | ivor: | |Slurpee|: does the hard drive led flash. do the keyboard led's flash. when you say "sounds like its booting" what do you mean. |
| [17:44:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh just so that you can rule out that possibility |
| [17:44:00] | |Slurpee|: | i can hear all the fans going |
| [17:44:00] | |Slurpee|: | i didnt plug in hdd led flash |
| [17:44:00] | |Slurpee|: | keyboard doesnt flash |
| [17:44:00] | OhNoNotHim: | fans are dumb though |
| [17:44:00] | OhNoNotHim: | they dont tell you anything |
| [17:44:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [17:44:00] | ivor: | |Slurpee|: perhaps you should plug some stuff in. :D |
| [17:44:00] | OhNoNotHim: | they just get power |
| [17:45:00] | OhNoNotHim: | and turn on |
| [17:45:00] | ivor: | the lights and speakers are there for a reason. :P |
| [17:45:00] | |Slurpee|: | damnit |
| [17:45:00] | |Slurpee|: | well i was doing this at like 2 am last nite |
| [17:45:00] | ivor: | not just to make your machine feel christmassy. |
| [17:45:00] | |Slurpee|: | and i was half a sleep and didnt want to do it |
| [17:45:00] | |Slurpee|: | i guess ill do it now |
| [17:45:00] | ivor: | perhaps that wasn't the best time to put a PC together. |
| [17:46:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh |
| [17:46:00] | ivor: | basically if you plug the speaker in then you'll know if there's a POST error, because it will beep. |
| [17:46:00] | ivor: | if you plug the hdd light in then you'll know if the machine is trying to boot off it. |
| [17:46:00] | dcstimm: | l Jewi, sh |
| [17:47:00] | dcstimm: | Sh |
| [17:48:00] | ivor: | the keyboard lights should flash on power up. if they dont then and there's no beep and there's no hdd activity then it sounds like theres a cpu problem. |
| [17:48:00] | ivor: | either it's dead or simply not seated in the socket correctly. |
| [17:49:00] | ivor: | you probably want to read some off the links off that page you sent: http://www.mysuperpc.com/build/pc_first_boot.shtml |
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| [17:50:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [17:50:00] | |Slurpee|: | no sound |
| [17:50:00] | |Slurpee|: | no keyboard |
| [17:50:00] | |Slurpee|: | fans were on |
| [17:50:00] | |Slurpee|: | onboard lan has led |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ok this is stupid |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | but |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | did you connect power to the mobo? |
| [17:51:00] | |Slurpee|: | yes |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | the big ribbony cable |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ok |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | just making sure |
| [17:51:00] | |Slurpee|: | np |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | because it doesnt sound like the mobo is getting power |
| [17:51:00] | |Slurpee|: | im sure its a real common error |
| [17:51:00] | |Slurpee|: | so ask all the qustions u have |
| [17:51:00] | |Slurpee|: | how would the onboard lan get video |
| [17:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | since if i remember correctly you connect fans directly to the power supply |
| [17:51:00] | |Slurpee|: | if mobo doesnt get power |
| [17:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | onboard lan has led |
| [17:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | thats what i meant |
| [17:52:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh didnt tell us that ;-) |
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| [17:52:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [17:53:00] | |Slurpee|: | i really think its cpu |
| [17:53:00] | |Slurpee|: | the heatsink would only fit on top if i put the chip in correctly, right ? |
| [17:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | um |
| [17:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | well the chip would only get seated |
| [17:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | if it was in properly |
| [17:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | what type of chip is it? |
| [17:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | amd |
| [17:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | sempron |
| [17:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | i followed the instructions right from amd |
| [17:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | it fit in perfect |
| [17:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | and i put the heatsink/fan on it |
| [17:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | that fastened perfect into the board too |
| [17:54:00] | |Slurpee|: | maybe its a bad power supply ! |
| [17:55:00] | |Slurpee|: | this case came from a computer that died |
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| [17:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | shall i try a dif power supply ? |
| [17:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | if you have one |
| [17:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | or u think it is good because the fans r getting power and video |
| [17:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | um |
| [17:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | actually |
| [17:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i dunno |
| [17:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | did you put thermal paste and all that good stuff |
| [17:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | no |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | i just got it all in the mail yesterday |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | and i jsut wanted to get the main parts in the case |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | and alreast get a boot done |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | test my hard drive to make sure it works |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | im going on vacation in a few hours ;/ |
| [17:59:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm |
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| [18:11:00] | |Slurpee|: | no more ideas eh ? |
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| [18:14:00] | kormoc: | what's the issue? |
| [18:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | read past 200 lines |
| [18:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | haha |
| [18:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | cant get to first boot |
| [18:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | all i get is onboard lan has led on, cpu and psu fans spin |
| [18:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | no sounds on boot |
| [18:16:00] | |Slurpee|: | no video |
| [18:16:00] | kormoc: | I can't. I just logged in |
| [18:17:00] | kormoc: | and you didn't put any goo between the cpu and heatsink? |
| [18:17:00] | kormoc: | what proc is it? |
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| [18:21:00] | |Slurpee|: | no goo |
| [18:21:00] | |Slurpee|: | i just bought it |
| [18:21:00] | |Slurpee|: | wants to get it to first boot |
| [18:21:00] | |Slurpee|: | test out my hardware |
| [18:21:00] | |Slurpee|: | but it just wont boot |
| [18:22:00] | kormoc: | you do understand that you could have just fried the cpu by not putting goo on it, right? |
| [18:22:00] | |Slurpee|: | i doubt it |
| [18:22:00] | kormoc: | that's a required item. What cpu is it? |
| [18:22:00] | |Slurpee|: | its only 250 power supply |
| [18:22:00] | |Slurpee|: | amd 64 |
| [18:22:00] | |Slurpee|: | 2800+ |
| [18:22:00] | OhNoNotHim: | arg...somone is inviting me to ultimate frisbe |
| [18:22:00] | |Slurpee|: | semphreon |
| [18:22:00] | OhNoNotHim: | don think i want to go though :-/ |
| [18:22:00] | OhNoNotHim: | becuase frisbe is rarely ultimate |
| [18:22:00] | kormoc: | luckly you have thermal protection, so you didn't fry it |
| [18:23:00] | |Slurpee|: | thats what i thought |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | |Slurpee|, but if it was a althon xp, it would have been toast |
| [18:23:00] | |Slurpee|: | k |
| [18:23:00] | |Slurpee|: | im saved |
| [18:23:00] | |Slurpee|: | but why dont it work |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | you see, when the a64 picks up thermal issues, it won't start |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | it could be starting up, hitting the thermal limit, cause of lack of goo, and shut down right awa |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | y |
| [18:24:00] | |Slurpee|: | interesting |
| [18:24:00] | |Slurpee|: | u really think this is my issue ? |
| [18:24:00] | kormoc: | might be |
| [18:24:00] | OhNoNotHim: | yeah |
| [18:25:00] | OhNoNotHim: | no goo = no go |
| [18:25:00] | |Slurpee|: | were can i goo on xmas eve ? |
| [18:25:00] | |Slurpee|: | computer store ? |
| [18:25:00] | kormoc: | sure |
| [18:25:00] | OhNoNotHim: | are you in a dorm? |
| [18:25:00] | |Slurpee|: | no |
| [18:25:00] | OhNoNotHim: | might be able to hit up your hall |
| [18:25:00] | OhNoNotHim: | j/k |
| [18:25:00] | kormoc: | any computer store will have it |
| [18:25:00] | |Slurpee|: | but am a student, just have my own place |
| [18:25:00] | OhNoNotHim: | any of them open? |
| [18:25:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have no car though |
| [18:25:00] | kormoc: | I would recommend getting atric ceramica or artic silver 3. |
| [18:26:00] | |Slurpee|: | im going home in a few hours on the train |
| [18:26:00] | |Slurpee|: | project will be on hold for a few days |
| [18:26:00] | kormoc: | welp, in theory, you could use peanut butter as a replacement, if you don't mind spending cleaning it up later... |
| [18:26:00] | |Slurpee|: | no |
| [18:26:00] | |Slurpee|: | i can wait |
| [18:26:00] | |Slurpee|: | i need new power supply |
| [18:27:00] | |Slurpee|: | i need 500w for my mythtv |
| [18:27:00] | kormoc: | yeah, 250 is really low for that |
| [18:27:00] | |Slurpee|: | again, i just wanted to test hardware |
| [18:27:00] | kormoc: | I would recommend a pc power and cooling power supply |
| [18:27:00] | kormoc: | the best power supplys in the world, and not that costly at all |
| [18:27:00] | |Slurpee|: | example ? |
| [18:28:00] | kormoc: | http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewpr . . . ?show=S47ATX |
| [18:29:00] | |Slurpee|: | price ? |
| [18:30:00] | kormoc: | $99, it's listed on the right |
| [18:30:00] | |Slurpee|: | doh |
| [18:30:00] | kormoc: | and the company is the best in the world |
| [18:30:00] | |Slurpee|: | they have it at compusa u think ? |
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| [18:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | u think it could be power supply? this came out of an old borken box |
| [18:32:00] | kormoc: | I own one, and a few months after I bought it, friday night at 8 pm, I got a call, They had a bad run of caps and my PS might have been in that run, and thus might die soon, so they are going to send me out a new one. Coolness I thought. 10 am the next morning, a new ps showed up at my door, they sent it same day air, and didn't recall the old one. The old one is still working fine, 2 years later, and the new one is perfect as well. I know of no othe |
| [18:32:00] | kormoc: | r company that does that |
| [18:32:00] | kormoc: | and it's likely not sold at compusa |
| [18:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | damn |
| [18:32:00] | |Slurpee|: | i probably couldnt gotten some xmas money while at home to buy it ' |
| [18:33:00] | kormoc: | yeah, AMD says the min power spec for a64 is 350 watts, so it very well could be power related |
| [18:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | ha ! |
| [18:34:00] | |Slurpee|: | i knew it was something werid |
| [18:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | any comparable models i can get a bestbuy or compusa ? |
| [18:36:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have a feeling ill get gift cards or something |
| [18:37:00] | kormoc: | antec true blue's are considered good, but I had one blow up in my face, and they wouldn't fix it. |
| [18:39:00] | |Slurpee|: | im sure ill get a decent 500w psu at compusa for a terrible price |
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| [18:56:00] | OhNoNotHim: | should cp be REDICULOUSLY slow on large files from partition to partition? |
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| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | OhNoNotHim, depends on the drive speeds, filesystems and continuality of the files |
| [19:07:00] | OhNoNotHim: | using reiserfs |
| [19:07:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i know the drive speeds are at least 5400 |
| [19:08:00] | OhNoNotHim: | moving around 14 gigs |
| [19:08:00] | OhNoNotHim: | but...its taken about 2–3 hrs |
| [19:09:00] | OhNoNotHim: | might be more than 14 |
| [19:09:00] | OhNoNotHim: | tis still going ;-) |
| [19:09:00] | kormoc: | hdparm -t /dev/hdx to see about how fast the drive is, roughtly |
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| [19:20:00] | foobum: | hmm anyone else noticed odd channel ordering in browse mode in trunk? |
| [19:21:00] | foobum: | i get: 1 -> 10 -> 11 -> 100 -> 2 -> 21 -> 200 -> etc |
| [19:21:00] | foobum: | even though the epg orders them correctly (i.e. numerically – which is what it's set to) |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | that is numerical order... in a way :P |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | but I would check svn.mythtv.org/trac and see if it's reported or not |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | if not, post a ticket |
| [19:26:00] | foobum: | can't see any tickets |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [19:26:00] | foobum: | i was just wondering if it's just me.. i'll look over the code if it's not just me being a tard |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | I see a good hundred or so tickets |
| [19:26:00] | foobum: | i meant related to channel ordering in browse mode :p |
| [19:27:00] | foobum: | god i hate dvd playing in linux |
| [19:27:00] | foobum: | mplayer is great – it does ac3/dts pass through perfectly but doesn't do menus |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | xine works really well for dvd playing |
| [19:28:00] | foobum: | xine also passes through dts just fine but needs AES0=0x6,AES1.... in the device string to do AC3 properly, which breaks DTS :( |
| [19:29:00] | foobum: | and vlc does menus AND proper pass through but I can't for the life of me make it display properly centered, overscanned video (on my already overscanned X) |
| [19:29:00] | foobum: | FFS! |
| [19:30:00] | foobum: | i really like vlc except it's fullscreen seems broken – it's shifted up and right for me |
| [19:30:00] | foobum: | and in KDE you don't even get to see it |
| [19:30:00] | foobum: | so i tried windowed mode (and adjusting offsets, sizes, etc) but that seems broken too |
| [19:31:00] | foobum: | oh.. and Internal also does pass through right but no menus |
| [19:31:00] | foobum: | i had a look at that... but don't really understand menus |
| [19:32:00] | foobum: | i got to the point where i could select different options and activate one but with no visual indication that it was happening |
| [19:32:00] | foobum: | is it up to the player to highlight selected options and stuff? |
| [19:34:00] | kormoc: | it's up to the player to phrase how to select menus yeah |
| [19:34:00] | kormoc: | they basically have a overlay frame that you need to overlay the selected element with, is my understanding |
| [19:36:00] | jonK: | this may be in a changeset, but I'm getting a "data directroy is not writable by www-data" please check permissiosns error from mythweb any thoughts? |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | you can't write to the data directy from the apache user |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | fix your permissions :P |
| [19:36:00] | jonK: | yes, I understand, but what direcotry? |
| [19:37:00] | kormoc: | whatever data directory is set to |
| [19:37:00] | jonK: | set where? by what? |
| [19:37:00] | kormoc: | somewhere in mythweb... |
| [19:37:00] | foobum: | ...htdocs/mythweb/data |
| [19:37:00] | jonK: | ...mythweb/conf.php? mythweb.php? |
| [19:37:00] | jonK: | ? |
| [19:37:00] | kormoc: | that'd be the one |
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| [19:38:00] | foobum: | kormoc: an overlay frame? but sometimes the higlights magnify / colour the selection.. |
| [19:39:00] | foobum: | kormoc: and that seems to vary from dvd to dvd, no? |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | yeah, that's the point |
| [19:39:00] | foobum: | so how does the application know what to overlay? |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | take a drawing on paper, then take a clear sheet of plastic, and put it over top and draw on it, that's the overlay frame |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | foobum, it's defined in the menu somewhere |
| [19:40:00] | foobum: | hmm.. IIRC libdvdnav just tells you a rectangle |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | the frame doesn't need to be a full frame |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | frame is a generic term I'm using |
| [19:41:00] | foobum: | yeah.. but AFAICT dvdnav doesn't tell you what to overlay – just the rectangle that should be overlayed? |
| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | donno, I never actually dove into how it's setup other then as a passing interest |
| [19:41:00] | foobum: | so.. how do I know i'm meant to be overlaying "Extras", in red and slightly bigger than the unhighlighted text? |
| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | it's defined somewhere |
| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | dvdnav might just not have that implimented |
| [19:42:00] | foobum: | hmm.. that's what xine uses.. |
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| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | you could look at the xine code and see how they do it |
| [19:42:00] | foobum: | i'll have another look at xine / dvdnav and see if i can figure it out |
| [19:42:00] | foobum: | :) |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | btw, if you're tring to impliment it into mplayer, they've said that how mplayer is done makes it rather impossable right now. there would need to be a core overhaul first, which they don't want to do |
| [19:43:00] | foobum: | nah.. i was trying to do it in Internal |
| [19:44:00] | foobum: | ...which already uses libdvdnav |
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| [20:13:00] | OhNoNotHim: | you just dont mess with texas cops |
| [20:13:00] | OhNoNotHim: | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/copisinsane.html |
| [20:13:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh i dunno if they are texans or not :-) |
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| [20:21:00] | docelmo: | «eidolon» dude you still avlie? |
| [20:22:00] | docelmo: | or anyone else with a PVR-150.. Got remote issues.. It was working and I had to reboot after it froze and now it doesnt work.. Any ideas? |
| [20:23:00] | docelmo: | I tried to restart lirc and myth-backend and still same problem |
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| [20:30:00] | tuos: | Hi, I used to have ivtv working, but I built a new gentoo... and now I'm having trouble with the firmware for ivtv. I put them in /lib/modules.... but I guess it wants it in a hotplug firmware directory... where does it go??? |
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| [20:34:00] | so_: | docelmo, |
| [20:34:00] | so_: | docelmo, what version of ivtv? |
| [20:35:00] | tuos: | so_: using 4.12 |
| [20:35:00] | tuos: | 4.1 I mean. |
| [20:35:00] | so_: | tuos, what I did on my 150 was patched it with Mark's patch |
| [20:35:00] | so_: | for the 150 remote issues |
| [20:35:00] | tuos: | so_: sorry, I just jumped in the channel and didn't see docelmo's typing... I spoke out of turn. |
| [20:36:00] | tuos: | so_: well my issue is getting the firmware loaded. dmesg shows "unable to open firmware v4l-cx25840.fw" |
| [20:36:00] | so_: | tuos, yeah I was going to say something I saw about that too |
| [20:37:00] | so_: | tuos, /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| [20:37:00] | so_: | According to this: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . ight=hotplug |
| [20:37:00] | so_: | docelmo, you can read that post too, it's the 150 howto |
| [20:37:00] | tuos: | so_: I was reading that too... unfortunately even though I have hotplug installed... I do not have a /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware directory. |
| [20:38:00] | so_: | do you have /usr/lib/hotplug? |
| [20:38:00] | tuos: | so_: it seems the ivtv driver documentation has changed recently. |
| [20:38:00] | so_: | yes 4.1 and 5 are reorganizing and renaming files |
| [20:38:00] | tuos: | so_: no. the only "h" directory I have in /usr/lib is /usr/lib/hdparm |
| [20:39:00] | so_: | make a directory and drop the firmware in there I guess is the best first guess |
| [20:40:00] | tuos: | just move it from /lib/modules to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware.... okay doing it now. |
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| [20:41:00] | lotia: | hi all, whats the status of avi playback using the Internal plugin? |
| [20:41:00] | tuos: | so_:.... dmesg is saying it cannot find firmware "v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw" I don't have that file |
| [20:41:00] | lotia: | is seek still problematic in some files? |
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| [20:59:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm...i keep getting this when i try to watch tv |
| [20:59:00] | OhNoNotHim: | read audio: Broken pipe |
| [20:59:00] | OhNoNotHim: | 2005-12–24 15:00:00.209 NVR: Only read -1 bytes of 4096 bytes from '/dev/dsp |
| [20:59:00] | OhNoNotHim: | \ |
| [20:59:00] | OhNoNotHim: | without that last slash |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | what kind of capture card? |
| [21:00:00] | OhNoNotHim: | erm hauppage wintv |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | no pvr card? |
| [21:00:00] | OhNoNotHim: | one of the under bttv cards |
| [21:00:00] | OhNoNotHim: | nope |
| [21:00:00] | OhNoNotHim: | tuner |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | ok. sorry, dunno then |
| [21:00:00] | ** laga goes downstairs to join the family ** | |
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| [21:10:00] | tuos: | Can mythtv run on mysql 4.1??? |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | it can |
| [21:10:00] | tuos: | kormoc: thanks :) |
| [21:13:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I get errors like "QMYSQL3" unable to execute query" when I use mysql 4.1 |
| [21:14:00] | kormoc: | thats cause qt wasn't compiled with the right mysql lib |
| [21:14:00] | tuos: | kormoc: hmm... what do you recommend? |
| [21:14:00] | kormoc: | recompile qt |
| [21:15:00] | so_: | tuos, http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [21:15:00] | so_: | tuos, they renamed HcwFalcn.ROM |
| [21:15:00] | tuos: | so_: I got the firmware issue fixed. :) |
| [21:15:00] | tuos: | so_: the firmware.agent file listed where hotplug looks for firmware. |
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| [21:16:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I have qt built with USE = +mysql |
| [21:16:00] | kormoc: | with the mysql 4.1 headers? |
| [21:16:00] | tuos: | kormoc: how do I check? |
| [21:16:00] | kormoc: | did you have mysql 4.1 installed before you compiled qt? |
| [21:17:00] | tuos: | kormoc: yes. this is a fresh gentoo install... the only version of mysql installed was 4.1 |
| [21:17:00] | kormoc: | whats the exact errors? |
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| [21:19:00] | tuos: | kormoc: http://pastebin.com/477884 |
| [21:20:00] | kormoc: | did you import the mc.sql file? |
| [21:21:00] | tuos: | kormoc: yes, successfully and can do "mysql -u mythtv -p" also. |
| [21:21:00] | kormoc: | you don't have the keybindings table, which would point to something wasn't correctly delt with |
| [21:25:00] | tuos: | kormoc: doesn't the mc.sql file put in the keybindings table? |
| [21:25:00] | docelmo: | so_, I think its 0.8.0 |
| [21:25:00] | docelmo: | everything works.. I didnt have to move my firmware over it works from default with no prob.. |
| [21:25:00] | docelmo: | Should I move the firmware? |
| [21:26:00] | kormoc: | tuos, it should, but something screwed up on yours |
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| [21:29:00] | tuos: | kormoc: I gave "revdep-rebuild --library libmysqlclient.so" do you think that will fix it? |
| [21:30:00] | kormoc: | no |
| [21:30:00] | kormoc: | as it's not a lib error |
| [21:30:00] | kormoc: | read the lines after the database error line |
| [21:30:00] | kormoc: | where it gives the right error |
| [21:30:00] | kormoc: | something is screwed with your database |
| [21:30:00] | tuos: | kormoc: line #? |
| [21:30:00] | kormoc: | 20 |
| [21:31:00] | kormoc: | 28, 36, 42, 50, 58, 66, 74, 82, 90... |
| [21:31:00] | tuos: | kormoc: afaik, if the qt mysql client cannot connect... then ofcourse the table doesn't exist. |
| [21:31:00] | galorin: | I've just done an install to Ubuntu 5.10 and am having troubles with dvd ripping. It gets to about 50% then I get a message saying something about losing the Myth transcoding daemon.. |
| [21:31:00] | kormoc: | tuos, no, where does it say it can't connect? |
| [21:32:00] | tuos: | kormoc: 18 26 34 42 etc... |
| [21:32:00] | kormoc: | tuos, no |
| [21:32:00] | kormoc: | tuos, that says it was unable to execute the query |
| [21:32:00] | kormoc: | tuos, if it couldn't connect, you would get a error saying it can't connect |
| [21:33:00] | tuos: | kormoc: well dang... |
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| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | tuos, hence my saying that your database is screwed somehow |
| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | tuos, mysql -u root -p |
| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | tuos, log in, and at the mysql prompt: DROP DATABASE mythconverg; |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | tuos, and start the mc.sql import again |
| [21:34:00] | tuos: | kormoc: done |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | then run myth-setup and see what it says |
| [21:36:00] | tuos: | kormoc: http://pastebin.com/477899 |
| [21:37:00] | tuos: | kormoc: line 15? |
| [21:38:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [21:39:00] | kormoc: | basically, the db update failed, with a error that shouldn't be an error |
| [21:50:00] | so_: | docelmo, you're having remote lockup issues due to a bug in the driver code/ivtv upgrading to Mark's fixes as per that link stopped me from having problems with it. I'm using knoppmyth mind you |
| [21:54:00] | so_: | if the box is freezing up even keyboard not working...probably something else :) |
| [21:56:00] | docelmo: | So.. I am too.. |
| [21:57:00] | docelmo: | The remote worked then stopped.. |
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| [22:02:00] | so_: | docelmo, the chip on the board has a unique problem |
| [22:02:00] | so_: | there is a patch that isn't in the ivtv tree as far as I can tell for it |
| [22:03:00] | so_: | http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=19 |
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| [22:06:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm...i cant seem to control mythtv once i start watching a video |
| [22:06:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ie if i hit escape nothing and i cant skip around with the arrow keys |
| [22:06:00] | OhNoNotHim: | anyone have similar problems? |
| [22:10:00] | Kyler_: | I record "Keynote" at any time on FSTV. I now have about 20 episodes of the exact same thing. It looks like it's because there's no subtitle (just a description). I tried switching to matching duplicates on description but it just recorded another one. |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | OhNoNotHim: you talking about mythvideo? |
| [22:10:00] | OhNoNotHim: | laga: yes |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | OhNoNotHim: are you running a window manager? |
| [22:10:00] | OhNoNotHim: | pretty sure its using mplayer |
| [22:10:00] | OhNoNotHim: | um |
| [22:10:00] | OhNoNotHim: | evilwm |
| [22:10:00] | OhNoNotHim: | its not in "windowed" mode |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | OhNoNotHim: it's likely that it's not properly configured. |
| [22:11:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh i used evilwm because i followed a tutorial |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | fluxbox on debian works out-of-the-box for me |
| [22:11:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh i should prob switch it over to fluxbox thats what i am used to ;-) |
| [22:12:00] | laga: | do that then |
| [22:12:00] | laga: | time for me to get wasted. cya tomorrow |
| [22:12:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh have fun |
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