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| [00:06:00] | dennis_p: | right what is the turn off computer command again, I noticed it's not 'shutdown now' |
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| [00:06:00] | foobum: | dennis_p: try shutdown -h now |
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| [00:09:00] | dennis_p: | thanks foobum that worked |
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| [00:22:00] | bonius: | would anyone be able to help a newb with ivtv firmware problems? |
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| [01:12:00] | galorin: | I was wondering what yall ue to control your setups. I'm pricing out a HTPC for my bro-in-law, and am looking at this combination http://tinyurl.com/cn4rr and the remote that comes with the Nova-T card. Any other suggestions? |
| [01:12:00] | riksta: | thats a bad remote |
| [01:13:00] | galorin: | Ah, ok. so I should look for a remote then as well... |
| [01:13:00] | galorin: | rats |
| [01:13:00] | riksta: | ati remote wonder bob is pretty good |
| [01:14:00] | riksta: | are you in UK |
| [01:14:00] | riksta: | microdirect.co.uk sell them |
| [01:16:00] | riksta: | nite |
| [01:16:00] | praet: | anyone good with xfs |
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| [01:19:00] | galorin: | Any reccomendations for a wireless keyboard/mouse, or stuff to avoid at all costs? Oh, out of curiosity, what's the bad about the Nova-t's remote? |
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| [01:20:00] | amicrawle: | need a how to plez on getting mytht in the tivo |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | It can't be done |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [01:21:00] | amicrawle: | i removed the drive and reformated it |
| [01:21:00] | praet: | nm just needed a reboot |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth simply does not support the various hardware needed to do it |
| [01:21:00] | amicrawle: | i got the tivo usb to work with my keyborad |
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| [01:22:00] | amicrawle: | and got as far as tv card |
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| [01:35:00] | jcsmith: | hi all |
| [01:36:00] | jcsmith: | which do you perfer to use with myth, xfs, or jfs? |
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| [01:36:00] | praet: | i like xfs |
| [01:36:00] | Krazylegz: | jcsmith: Don't want to use reiserfs? |
| [01:36:00] | praet: | never had a problem or lost data |
| [01:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use xfs |
| [01:37:00] | jcsmith: | Krazylegz, i use reiser currently on my desktop and laptop systems, i've heard it wasn't great for large files |
| [01:37:00] | Krazylegz: | praet: I definitely lost data in XFS when I used it with RH 7. :-) |
| [01:37:00] | jcsmith: | i can vouch for it being super fast with many small files |
| [01:37:00] | jcsmith: | RH 7, that was quiet some time ago |
| [01:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've lots drives/partitions to reiser so I'm still leary of it :) |
| [01:38:00] | Krazylegz: | To each his own. I do like XFS too. |
| [01:38:00] | jcsmith: | i've not had a problem with reiser, i've used it as my primary FS for ~1.5 years |
| [01:38:00] | Krazylegz: | I just happen to use Reiser instead. |
| [01:39:00] | jcsmith: | i've been leaning toward XFS/JFS because they are the most efficient for accessing and deleting large files |
| [01:40:00] | praet: | Krazylegz ouch. that would make me switch to reiser |
| [01:40:00] | jcsmith: | just thought i'd gather some opinions while i'm planning for the building of this beast :-P |
| [01:41:00] | praet: | jcsmith what are you planning to use on the boot |
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| [01:43:00] | jcsmith: | well if i don't change my mind right now, i'm going with 128mb boot ext2, 15gb / reiser then /var/video 160gb XFS of JFS |
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| [01:44:00] | jcsmith: | i seem to be addicted to a small ext2 boot partition for some strange archaic reason |
| [01:44:00] | praet: | heh |
| [01:44:00] | Chutt: | lot of tools understand ext2 and can recover stuff from it |
| [01:44:00] | Chutt: | not archaic at all |
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| [01:46:00] | Krazylegz: | I usually still use ext2 for my /boot as well. |
| [01:47:00] | Baylink: | XFS boot can cause trouble with some OS's and with upgrades. |
| [01:47:00] | jcsmith: | yea, but recovering my boot partition us probably the least of my worries, i should be mor concerned with getting the data off instead of the boot partition, it'd be much eaiser to re-install than replace some of my data |
| [01:47:00] | Baylink: | Excuse me: "root" |
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| [01:58:00] | mrd`: | Hi. |
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| [02:25:00] | poop: | ZDnet is reporting that Microsoft has hired 'user interface guru' Bill Buxton to work as a senior researcher. |
| [02:25:00] | poop: | Damn, even M$ is going to get a GUI. |
| [02:26:00] | jcsmith: | poop: yea, i read that on the web earlier, seems that according to the article i read "micrsoft is becoming as much a design company as a engineering company" |
| [02:27:00] | poop: | That'll be a welcome change. |
| [02:28:00] | jcsmith: | i dunno, there engineering doesn't seem too solid from what i can tell, i don't know how many times i've been at work and been like "why would anyone want to do it this way" |
| [02:28:00] | poop: | They exist mostly to frustrate people, afaict. |
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| [02:29:00] | jcsmith: | and provide many IT persons job security |
| [02:29:00] | poop: | They must have fired the retarded toddler they got to design the XP interface to make room for the new guy. |
| [02:30:00] | jcsmith: | i wouldn't mind there UI being ugly if it was useful |
| [02:30:00] | poop: | It's a burden and an obstacle. |
| [02:31:00] | poop: | And here come the linux clones. |
| [02:31:00] | jcsmith: | well linux is a unix clone :-P |
| [02:32:00] | poop: | unix didn't suck |
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| [02:35:00] | jcsmith: | i wasn't implying that it did |
| [02:36:00] | jcsmith: | Unix and Linux while similar both offer different things |
| [02:36:00] | jcsmith: | Unix will never have the vast array of hardware compatability Linux has |
| [02:36:00] | jcsmith: | Linux will never have the stability of a proprierity Unix running on its proprierity hardware |
| [02:37:00] | |rt|: | well Bill worked for Alias...he came up with the marking menu....one of the more clever things in poweranimator and maya....I'm not sure where that kind of stuff fits into MS's plan though |
| [02:38:00] | jcsmith: | can't say i've ever used poweranimator or maya, artsey stuff is definitely incompatable with me |
| [02:38:00] | |rt|: | i'm a 3d artist for a living |
| [02:38:00] | |rt|: | power animator is old school Irix stuff was alias' package before maya came out |
| [02:39:00] | |rt|: | power animator still lives on a little with the power studio product which is used for industrial design and engineering type stuff |
| [02:39:00] | jcsmith: | i'm doing good to write legibly let alone draw something that looks as i intended it to |
| [02:39:00] | |rt|: | hehe |
| [02:40:00] | jcsmith: | what sort of 3d art do you work on? |
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| [02:41:00] | |rt|: | jcsmith: immersive video stuff...mostly for museums and planetariums |
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| [02:42:00] | jcsmith: | rt: sounds awesome, but i think i'll stick to IT |
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| [02:42:00] | |rt|: | jcsmith: company I work for does dome theater stuff (automation, HighDef immersive playback, and HD Immersive Realtime) |
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| [02:43:00] | |rt|: | jcsmith: I run the graphics department so I have the responsibility of doing the departments IT as well |
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| [02:43:00] | |rt|: | jcsmith: mostly file server stuff LVM, tape backup, etc |
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| [02:44:00] | jcsmith: | rt: i'm actually currently a student, but have an internship with the IT department at a pharmaceutical company, do lots of fileserver and tape backup type stuff as well |
| [02:45:00] | |rt|: | cool....I've thought about moving into just doing IT myself a number of times |
| [02:45:00] | Cromz: | :P I got ya'll beat.. I'm a data recovery engineer.. I repair when ya'll mess up lol ;) |
| [02:45:00] | |rt|: | I thought about going back to school though for computer science and do 3d and graphics related programming |
| [02:45:00] | |rt|: | kinda combine both my hobies |
| [02:46:00] | |rt|: | interest i guess really....stops being a hobby the moment it becomes a job :) |
| [02:47:00] | jcsmith: | Cromz: we just shipped the hard drive of our CEO's laptop off to you or one of your fello data recovery engineers to try and recover some files after he dropped the thing |
| [02:47:00] | |rt|: | Cromz: hopefully i never need your services |
| [02:47:00] | jcsmith: | s/fello/fellow |
| [02:47:00] | Cromz: | jcsmith, sounds like alot of them we do ;) |
| [02:48:00] | |rt|: | hehe the owner of the company i work for would carry around a firewire harddrive with him and he constantly backs his stuff up to it |
| [02:48:00] | |rt|: | he called that a "backup" |
| [02:48:00] | |rt|: | yet this harddrive travelled the world with him |
| [02:48:00] | jcsmith: | Cromz: I just fear its a lost cause because my esteemed manager insisted on trying to run a scandisk on it even tho the damn thing sounded like a chainsaw |
| [02:48:00] | |rt|: | probably in his checked luggage |
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| [02:48:00] | Cromz: | there was a couple that are funny tho.. I gotta say.. 'laptop was run over by a people mover in airport.. worked for about a month but was hard to see with a cracked screen' lol |
| [02:49:00] | |rt|: | needless to say at one point the drive died and he called the harddrive junk and said it's supposed to be portable |
| [02:49:00] | JeepJerk: | does anyone here use mysql 5.0 ? |
| [02:49:00] | |rt|: | I had to remind him that portable and rugged are 2 different things...and just b/c you can pick something up and move it doesn't mean that it should be moved every day to a new city |
| [02:50:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [02:50:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm getting tons or errors from the backend trying to run db queries |
| [02:50:00] | jcsmith: | i gotta run, ttyl |
| [02:50:00] | Cromz: | another from our Japan office 'usb drive went through the washer, I think the data was washed off' ( translated of course ) |
| [02:51:00] | |rt|: | Cromz: my boss' problem was that the "backup" drive had started to be an extended harddrive for his laptop so it was more than just backup data on the drive |
| [02:51:00] | |rt|: | I'm guessing that I could probably take the drive out of the firewire drive and get alot off it using spinright or dd |
| [02:51:00] | JeepJerk: | nobody wants to help the guy with the broken backend :( |
| [02:51:00] | |rt|: | Cromz: lol |
| [02:52:00] | |rt|: | JeepJerk: no mysql 5.x experience here |
| [02:52:00] | Cromz: | JeepJerk, none here either. |
| [02:52:00] | JeepJerk: | I suppose that would be a problem |
| [02:52:00] | |rt|: | JeepJerk: you may need to rebuild things that were linked to mysql libs |
| [02:52:00] | JeepJerk: | everything has been rebuilt |
| [02:52:00] | |rt|: | qt comes to mind |
| [02:52:00] | JeepJerk: | but good thinking |
| [02:53:00] | |rt|: | Cromz: so does the company you work for have their own disk recovery tools? |
| [02:54:00] | Cromz: | I'm still searching for a setting to play 'liveTV' ( I know.. who does that!) and watching recorded shows that are 4:3 on a 16:9. I found it for videos. but not for the other stuff.. |
| [02:54:00] | Cromz: | |rt|, ya. we have commercial and inhouse ;) Kroll Ontrack.. |
| [02:54:00] | |rt|: | do you guys do raids? |
| [02:55:00] | Cromz: | yup. I'm one of the main raid guys.. |
| [02:55:00] | |rt|: | i recently had a raid 5 raid go belly up while it was rebuilding with a new drive |
| [02:55:00] | Cromz: | I see parity where others done. |
| [02:55:00] | Cromz: | er dont |
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| [02:55:00] | |rt|: | i'm guessing that recovering 1.3TB of data would be cost prohibitive though |
| [02:56:00] | Cromz: | lol ya.. dunno what they charge.. I'm just the monkey fixing it. |
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| [02:56:00] | |rt|: | well most of the data was backed up and the stuff that wasn't is replacable |
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| [02:58:00] | Cromz: | the raids that stick in my mind are the ones where the admins let them run in degraded mode.. till another fails and then they call us. |
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| [02:58:00] | Cromz: | one of them had physically thrown the drive away 2 to 3 years ago.. ugh! |
| [02:59:00] | |rt|: | when i worked at my school I worked in the IT department just fixing computers and such in the labs....occasionally we had to support the admin people in the college...this one time we had one saying that their tape wouldn't read the data properly |
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| [02:59:00] | |rt|: | took one look at the tape and it was beat up...so i asked the lady what she did with the tape.... |
| [02:59:00] | |rt|: | she had used it to hammer a nail in the wall to hang a picture |
| [03:00:00] | Cromz: | lol nice |
| [03:00:00] | |rt|: | Cromz: ack...yeah that's stupid admining there |
| [03:00:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [03:00:00] | |rt|: | Cromz: I've lost a couple raids in my days |
| [03:00:00] | |rt|: | Cromz: had a scsi backplane issue that corrupted a whole bus once |
| [03:01:00] | Cromz: | raid arn't fool proof.. they do have issues. even for the best admins.. |
| [03:01:00] | |rt|: | had 1 drive die in a raid.....powered down the raid and put a replacement drive in to rebuild....upon rebooting another drive had crossed the smart error threshold and the controller wouldn't accept the drive |
| [03:01:00] | Cromz: | the newest raid6 are fun for me to figure out.. dual parity w00ts :> |
| [03:01:00] | |rt|: | yeah that's what our new stuff is |
| [03:02:00] | Cromz: | I got a small raid5 here at home. ;) 6 by 200 gig sata's.. lol |
| [03:02:00] | |rt|: | i saved that raid though...i dd'ed the 2nd drive that failed and forced it into the array to replace the drive that had errors |
| [03:03:00] | |rt|: | then added the new drive and let it re-sync |
| [03:03:00] | |rt|: | at work we are up to about 25TB now |
| [03:03:00] | |rt|: | had a good scare the other day when the raid backplane in one of the units started to go bad |
| [03:04:00] | |rt|: | i was able to do a pvmove to migrate the data off it at about 2.5mB/sec |
| [03:04:00] | |rt|: | took forever |
| [03:05:00] | Cromz: | that all? ;) last I heard we're way up in the hunderds of petabyte area lol our electronic descovery department.. |
| [03:05:00] | |rt|: | well 25TB is just for my department which consists of 3 people |
| [03:05:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [03:05:00] | |rt|: | it's always full too |
| [03:06:00] | Cromz: | all those movies ;) |
| [03:06:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [03:06:00] | |rt|: | 4kx4k frames at 30fps tend to eat up space in a hurry |
| [03:06:00] | |rt|: | 20 minute show takes over a TB in most cases |
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| [03:08:00] | |rt|: | anyone know how to get firewire capture working in myth? |
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| [03:08:00] | redline-: | hey all can anyone point me in the right direction to get the latest syn build to show live tv |
| [03:09:00] | redline-: | svn not syn sorry |
| [03:10:00] | mrd`: | I'm trying to figure out what kind of TV tuner card I need, but I'm not very familiar with different standards and what I need. I didn't notice anything in any of the MythTV FAQs that helped; can anyone answer just a few questions or maybe point me in the direction of a complete n00bs guide to MythTV? |
| [03:10:00] | redline-: | I am getting TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [03:11:00] | Cromz: | mrd`, what distro you thinking about using? |
| [03:12:00] | mrd`: | Cromz: I'm mostly indifferent. |
| [03:12:00] | mrd`: | Cromz: At the moment, I don't have a MythTV setup at all. I have a PVR from Comcast right now, but we'll be losing it in a month or so and I'm interested in building a replacement. |
| [03:13:00] | Cromz: | mrd`, I use fedora.. 64bit on this one and 32 the new one.. but I learned alot from http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/index.php |
| [03:13:00] | |rt|: | mrd`: I would stick to a haugpauge card of some sort |
| [03:14:00] | |rt|: | mrd`: you may be able to use a firewire card depending on your cable box |
| [03:14:00] | Cromz: | and a haugpauge pvr350 is what I use.. |
| [03:14:00] | |rt|: | my cable box has firewire out but I can't figure out how to get myth to see it as a video capture device |
| [03:15:00] | |rt|: | there's not much documentation on using firewire yet |
| [03:15:00] | mrd`: | |rt|: We'll probably be downgrading to standard cable; do I still need to hook indirectly through a set-top Comcast box, or can I just plug the coax right into some TV tuner (e.g. a Haugpauge card)? |
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| [03:15:00] | simcop2387: | well my parents mythtv box is recording its first show, a barbra walters special |
| [03:16:00] | redline-: | anyone using the svn checkout? |
| [03:17:00] | simcop2387: | and if only i knew how to tell mythtv what the monitor aspect is like mplayer's -monitoraspect |
| [03:17:00] | simcop2387: | well on to anime |
| [03:17:00] | Cromz: | mrd`, if your downgrading standard you shouldn't need to use the box. |
| [03:17:00] | |rt|: | mrd`: yeah you can just hook it up directly to the Haugpauge card and skip a cable box all together |
| [03:18:00] | |rt|: | mrd`: unless you want ppv or ondemand stuff |
| [03:18:00] | Cromz: | simcop2387, same thing I'm looking for :P |
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| [03:19:00] | mrd`: | |rt|: Nah, I've never used PPV and we can live without On-Demand. |
| [03:19:00] | |rt|: | mrd`: at the moment what I do is split my cable signal...one going directly into the pvr 250 and the other going into the HD cable box |
| [03:20:00] | |rt|: | I watch live tv using the cable box and just use myth as an over glorified digital vcr |
| [03:20:00] | mrd`: | Hm. |
| [03:20:00] | |rt|: | if I can get a HD signal into myth via the firewire then I will probably go back to using myth for livetv as well |
| [03:20:00] | poop: | yeah, good luck with that |
| [03:21:00] | |rt|: | poop: yeah I can't find any info on using firewire...other than myth supposably supports it hehe |
| [03:21:00] | |rt|: | and that the cable box that I have is known to send out a non-encrypted firewire dv stream |
| [03:21:00] | poop: | rt: What do you want to know? |
| [03:22:00] | |rt|: | poop: how to get myth to see the firewire connection to the cable box as a video source |
| [03:22:00] | |rt|: | i'm not sure linux is even seeing it properly at the moment though |
| [03:22:00] | mrd`: | Should I be interested in DVB-C or anything? |
| [03:23:00] | ** mrd` doesn't currently have an HD TV, but would not mind keeping it available as an option later. ** | |
| [03:23:00] | poop: | rt: plugreport should say something other than "error: error reading" on a few lines |
| [03:24:00] | |rt|: | ah i have a few lines that say error: error reading * on them |
| [03:24:00] | |rt|: | does that mean that i don't have a module loaded that I need or does it mean that the box isn't sending a signal that I can use? |
| [03:25:00] | poop: | rt: It means raw1394 isn't seeing your box (run it a few times) |
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| [03:27:00] | |rt|: | well it lists 2 nodes |
| [03:27:00] | |rt|: | 1 has some stuff other than errors |
| [03:27:00] | |rt|: | the other has errors |
| [03:27:00] | |rt|: | i can paste it here but it's about 10 lines |
| [03:27:00] | poop: | You should paste it somewhere else. |
| [03:28:00] | |rt|: | http://pastebin.com/472636 |
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| [03:29:00] | poop: | yeah, there it is |
| [03:29:00] | poop: | rt: The first test you can try is test_mpeg2 from libiec/examples |
| [03:30:00] | poop: | Try it w/o any arguments first though (otherwise it does p-t-p nstead of broadcast and broadcast is more reliable) |
| [03:30:00] | |rt|: | hmm what package is that in? |
| [03:30:00] | poop: | rt: libiec source (I doubt it's packaged) |
| [03:31:00] | arack: | I have a couple programs that had the nuv files blown away but they still appear in the recorded program list. Deleting them has no effect. any ideas? |
| [03:32:00] | poop: | arack: watch mythfrontend's output then "touch /path/to/file", then delete |
| [03:32:00] | arack: | ah, makes sense. I'll give that a try, thx. |
| [03:32:00] | Cromz: | arack, they might still reside in the database. |
| [03:32:00] | poop: | arack: You'll learn that mythtv doesn't recover from much itself. |
| [03:33:00] | arack: | I'm seeing that. It still rocks though |
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| [03:34:00] | |rt|: | poop: ok i just grabbed the source going to build the examples.....once I have that worked out what do I need to do to get myth to use it? |
| [03:35:00] | poop: | rt: Just build mythtv with firewire support and run mythtv-setup. |
| [03:35:00] | poop: | (that could be happening concurrently if needs be) |
| [03:35:00] | poop: | rt: 6200ch is a good thing to test with too |
| [03:36:00] | poop: | rt: You'll probably have to edit the source for your device though. |
| [03:36:00] | |rt|: | ok luckily examples is a useflag for that library |
| [03:36:00] | |rt|: | so i'm recompiling it in gentoo with that set |
| [03:37:00] | poop: | You know where you are? |
| [03:38:00] | |rt|: | yeah |
| [03:38:00] | |rt|: | when i run test-mpeg2 it says recieving |
| [03:38:00] | |rt|: | but i need to pipe it to a file i take it? |
| [03:40:00] | |rt|: | ok i got a mpg...let me through it in my mythvideo directory to see if it's playable |
| [03:40:00] | poop: | supply a filename |
| [03:40:00] | poop: | just use mplayere |
| [03:40:00] | mrd`: | Are there any comparison pages for the different WinTV cards? |
| [03:42:00] | mrd`: | Ooh, found it. |
| [03:44:00] | poop: | rt: If you got output you were on an unencrypted channel (remember that) |
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| [03:44:00] | |rt|: | poop: don't have a mouse/keyboard on that box i don't know if mplayer will work good through xforwarding |
| [03:45:00] | |rt|: | poop: I don't think i got a mpeg yet |
| [03:45:00] | |rt|: | i think the mpg i thought i had was a test from haugpauge |
| [03:45:00] | poop: | rt: It's really unreliable for me. I gave up. |
| [03:45:00] | poop: | Some people dick around with plugctl settings, but it never helped me. |
| [03:47:00] | |rt|: | is the problem with libiec or myth? |
| [03:48:00] | poop: | rt: libiec (myth isn't doing anything here) |
| [03:48:00] | poop: | It's very reliable on OS X (dunno about windos) |
| [03:48:00] | |rt|: | well hopefully that lib will improve with time |
| [03:48:00] | |rt|: | and comcast won't lock out the dv stream on their boxes |
| [03:49:00] | poop: | plugctl oPCR\[0\].bcast_connection=1 doesn't do anything when I run plugreport |
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| [03:49:00] | poop: | I think I saw it flip on playing with mythtv once though. |
| [03:50:00] | |rt|: | was the signal HD? |
| [03:50:00] | poop: | oh, I've had it working a couple of times in myth |
| [03:51:00] | poop: | Make sure you test on a broadcast HD channel. |
| [03:51:00] | poop: | or you won't ever get anything |
| [03:52:00] | poop: | rt: Try to use broadcast |
| [03:53:00] | poop: | broadcast vs. point-to-point firewire I should say |
| [03:53:00] | poop: | Some people say one firewire port on the dct-6200 works better |
| [03:54:00] | poop: | Left (if facing the box) iirc |
| [03:54:00] | poop: | Make sure you kill a chicken during a full moon too. |
| [04:00:00] | defaultro: | anyone here online that has a fusion hdtv card? |
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| [04:08:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, can an ATI All In Wonder 9800 work for a front-end machine. I'm not gonna try to use the tuner on it. That is the best card I have laying around right now |
| [04:08:00] | FunkyELF: | did anyone see what I just said? |
| [04:08:00] | FunkyELF: | I'm not sure how this nickserv thing works |
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| [04:09:00] | Krazylegz: | I saw it FunkyELF. |
| [04:09:00] | ** poop sees all ** | |
| [04:10:00] | FunkyELF: | so whats the verdict? Every guide I see says to use a Geforce FX 5200. Can ATI cards function for a frontend? |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | of course they can |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | use the ATI drivers |
| [04:17:00] | Beirdo: | but the nvidia cards will be less pain in the long run |
| [04:19:00] | Nothingman: | hey, all |
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| [04:19:00] | Nothingman: | does anyone here run their Myth on a box <1GHz? |
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| [04:21:00] | rjune: | i do |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | 633 |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | it don't like to play dvds |
| [04:21:00] | Nothingman: | right |
| [04:21:00] | poop: | Nothingman: I have run it on a dual < 500mhz |
| [04:21:00] | Nothingman: | do you run another frontend from it? |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | no, just one frontend |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | let me rephrase |
| [04:21:00] | Nothingman: | or do you not do graphics on the backend machine? |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | I have a backend on a 533 w/ 512MB RAM |
| [04:22:00] | rjune: | I have an 800Mhz frontend with 512MB RAM |
| [04:22:00] | rjune: | and I have a 2.1Ghz frontend with 128MB RAM |
| [04:22:00] | Nothingman: | I have a 700MHz Duron that crashes if I try to run a graphical ssh, access an NFS mount, or run mythfrontend from another machine |
| [04:23:00] | rjune: | kernel panic? |
| [04:23:00] | Nothingman: | granted, it was set up at one point to do LTSP as well, and I believe it still is |
| [04:23:00] | rjune: | I alwas run the frontend on the machine I want to use it from |
| [04:23:00] | Nothingman: | rjune: what ways would you suggest to tell the exact error? |
| [04:23:00] | Nothingman: | I can't ssh into it |
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| [04:23:00] | rjune: | Kernel panic? |
| [04:23:00] | rjune: | if so, I would suggest you try a completely different nic |
| [04:23:00] | Nothingman: | I can move the mouse as well |
| [04:23:00] | rjune: | different model, diffferent brand |
| [04:23:00] | Nothingman: | but the screen freezes otherwise |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | you know... |
| [04:24:00] | rjune: | oh, that could be a network problem too. |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | William Shatner's actually pretty good as Denny Crane |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:24:00] | rjune: | I see that sometimes when I lose connection and everything is waiting on responses from the network server |
| [04:24:00] | rjune: | denny crane? |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [04:24:00] | Nothingman: | I'd hate to not run X on it with the nice GeForceFX 5200... :-P |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | in Boston Legal |
| [04:24:00] | rjune: | ah |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | Nothingman: try a different nic, or cable. or just check to make sure it's all plugged in good |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | nothing strikes me as obvious |
| [04:25:00] | Beirdo: | there's a good chance that I will forever associate him with that character :) |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [04:26:00] | rjune: | he'll always be James T. Kirk to me |
| [04:26:00] | Nothingman: | trusty old Netgear FA310TX |
| [04:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:27:00] | Nothingman: | William Shatner? you mean that guy from Miss Congeniality? |
| [04:27:00] | Nothingman: | *kidding*!!! |
| [04:27:00] | Nothingman: | *ducks* |
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| [04:27:00] | Goose-Npa: | hello |
| [04:27:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, he was in that fiasco, wasn't he? :) |
| [04:28:00] | Nothingman: | seriously, though; anyone else in love with Sandra Bullock? |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | and let's not forget the All Bran commercials |
| [04:28:00] | ** Krazylegz raises hand ** | |
| [04:28:00] | Goose-Npa: | when i go to mythweb for all the channels it says no data any ideas? |
| [04:28:00] | poop: | Mr. Tambourine Man!?! |
| [04:29:00] | Beirdo: | run mythfilldatabase |
| [04:29:00] | Goose-Npa: | when i do that |
| [04:29:00] | Goose-Npa: | all i get is |
| [04:29:00] | Goose-Npa: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error |
| [04:29:00] | Goose-Npa: | 22:55:27 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error. |
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| [04:30:00] | Beirdo: | well there's your answer |
| [04:30:00] | Goose-Npa: | any idea why that happens? its been like that for like 2 months |
| [04:30:00] | poop: | Doesn't sound like a mythtv issue. |
| [04:30:00] | Beirdo: | likely you didn't renew your labs.zap2it |
| [04:31:00] | Beirdo: | or something |
| [04:31:00] | Cromz: | doh! |
| [04:32:00] | Cromz: | hey Beirdo help me.. :P 16:9 lcd monitor, watching recorded or live it streatches the screen. I found in video where to fix it. but not for recorded or live.. lol |
| [04:32:00] | Beirdo: | there's a key for that |
| [04:32:00] | Cromz: | yaya w |
| [04:32:00] | Beirdo: | there ya go |
| [04:32:00] | Cromz: | still doesn't do it right tho. |
| [04:33:00] | Beirdo: | ah well |
| [04:33:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [04:33:00] | Cromz: | 4:3 has black lines on the sides in video.. but not in the others :( |
| [04:33:00] | Cromz: | your alotta help.. lemme kick your dog. ;) |
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| [04:34:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have 16:9 LCD |
| [04:34:00] | Beirdo: | you are on your own |
| [04:34:00] | Beirdo: | I use a TV |
| [04:35:00] | Cromz: | yeah. I bought one just for the new myth box ;) dual amd 2600+ 1 gig of mem. |
| [04:35:00] | poop: | 'w' works for me ... |
| [04:35:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, you are in waters many of us have never charted |
| [04:35:00] | Cromz: | live and watching recorded uses mplayer right? |
| [04:36:00] | poop: | Cromz: no |
| [04:36:00] | Cromz: | no? doh! |
| [04:36:00] | Krazylegz: | No, it uses the internal player. |
| [04:36:00] | Goose-Npa: | is it hard to get the joystick working in linux? |
| [04:36:00] | Cromz: | there's the thing. hmm |
| [04:36:00] | poop: | Goose: not really |
| [04:36:00] | rjune: | Goose-Npa: depends on the joystick, but usually no |
| [04:37:00] | Goose-Npa: | cool, is it like automatically detected or what |
| [04:38:00] | poop: | Goose: depends on the joystick I'd wager |
| [04:38:00] | poop: | Mine is, but it's usb HID and all that |
| [04:38:00] | Goose-Npa: | cause i wanna play roms in mplayer |
| [04:38:00] | Cromz: | poop, w works but doesn't make it look better. it does chang ethe aspect but not where the actors dont look shorter and fatter lol |
| [04:38:00] | Goose-Npa: | i mean mythgames |
| [04:40:00] | poop: | Cromz: So you always have black bars on top and bottom? |
| [04:40:00] | Cromz: | yeah so far. unless I use fill |
| [04:40:00] | poop: | ahh, it's the right firewire port |
| [04:41:00] | poop: | Cromz: Does it vary by channel? |
| [04:41:00] | Cromz: | nope |
| [04:41:00] | poop: | HD sure looks nice. I'm hesitant to turn off livetv. |
| [04:42:00] | mrd`: | Hm... is there any easy way to feed two coax cables into a hauppauge card that doesn't involve returning back to those annoying A/B switches? |
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| [04:43:00] | poop: | mrd: Just get one with 2 tuners (pvr-500) |
| [04:43:00] | mrd`: | poop: I considered that, but it seems a bit like overkill. |
| [04:44:00] | mrd`: | And I'd like if I had two tuners to be able to record and watch two channels on the same side. |
| [04:44:00] | poop: | mrd: Well, you'd get PiP and be able to record and watch a different channel simultaneously. |
| [04:45:00] | mrd`: | poop: The pvr-500 doesn't have two coax ins. |
| [04:45:00] | mrd`: | Well, it does, but one's for FM. |
| [04:45:00] | Krazylegz: | mrd`: No, it has two coax video inputs. |
| [04:46:00] | Krazylegz: | The PVR-350 is the one with FM radio. |
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| [04:46:00] | Chutt: | it has one coax video input. |
| [04:46:00] | mrd`: | Krazylegz: The labeling on the PCI picture here implies otherwise: http://hauppauge.com/Pages/products/data_pvr500mce.html |
| [04:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, it has two tuners. |
| [04:46:00] | Chutt: | with one coax video input. |
| [04:47:00] | ** Krazylegz is dumb ** | |
| [04:47:00] | Chutt: | internal splitter. |
| [04:47:00] | ** Krazylegz hides ** | |
| [04:47:00] | mrd`: | And two tuners != two coax inputs. |
| [04:47:00] | Chutt: | all mce cards have a radio input |
| [04:47:00] | Chutt: | the 500's only available as a mce card |
| [04:48:00] | mrd`: | (Our cable service is split over two coax cables.) |
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| [04:49:00] | poop: | Oh yeah, that's what's weird about the 500 |
| [04:50:00] | poop: | That wouldn't work for me, as I can't tune most channels w/o a box on Comcast. |
| [04:53:00] | Goose-Npa: | poop: is ther an easy way to test if the controller is working? |
| [04:55:00] | Goose-Npa: | interestign you cant use a joystick for mythgame |
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| [05:00:00] | mrd`: | poop: Do you have A and B coax cables too, or is it just my city that's lame? |
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| [05:07:00] | poop: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb7966010]concealing 3360 DC, 3360 AC, 3360 MV errors |
| [05:07:00] | poop: | oh my |
| [05:07:00] | poop: | Goose: jscal? |
| [05:08:00] | poop: | mrd: no, just one coax here |
| [05:08:00] | mrd`: | poop: Hm, bah. Stupid Dallas. |
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| [05:11:00] | crazyhick: | any hd people in here? |
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| [05:12:00] | Tanthrix: | Bah! My breaker went and after the reboot my PVR150 card no longer is functioning. |
| [05:12:00] | Tanthrix: | "Encoder mailbox not found" error. |
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| [05:14:00] | crazyhick: | tanthrix, check the bios, i got that message when one of my pvr150 cards was sharing an irq with the ethernet controller |
| [05:14:00] | Tanthrix: | Shouldn't have changed any settings though...just a power off essentially.. |
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| [05:15:00] | Goose-Npa: | I installed mythgames and i can change its settings under setup in mythfrontend but i dont see anywhere to enter mythgames |
| [05:15:00] | Tanthrix: | I'll take a look though. |
| [05:15:00] | crazyhick: | i know. but sometimes weird things happen. I have 2 pvr 150 and a hd3000 i was getting all kinds of weird errors untill i changed motherboards |
| [05:16:00] | Tanthrix: | I'll try resetting the bios. |
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| [05:18:00] | cansado: | can anyone please please give me a hand with configuring the ati 'tv wonder pro'? |
| [05:18:00] | ** awstott ph33rs that card :P although I use it in windows.... and dont like it that much ** | |
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| [05:19:00] | cansado: | it's all i have, and i'm far too poor for a real card ;) |
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| [05:34:00] | Tanthrix: | ivtv: loading /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
| [05:34:00] | Tanthrix: | ivtv warning: Encoder mailbox not found |
| [05:34:00] | Tanthrix: | ivtv warning: Decoder mailbox not found |
| [05:34:00] | Tanthrix: | ivtv: Error locating firmware. |
| [05:34:00] | Tanthrix: | ivtv: Error -12 on initialization |
| [05:34:00] | Tanthrix: | ivtv-iTVC15_16_mpg2_encoder_card: probe of 0000:00:08.0 failed with error -12 |
| [05:35:00] | Tanthrix: | I'm stumped. I'm hoping nothing was fried by the power outage. |
| [05:35:00] | crazyhick: | ewww |
| [05:35:00] | crazyhick: | try reseating the cards. |
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| [05:36:00] | Tanthrix: | I'm going to try that, but if that doesn't work then it's definately some kind of software problem. Either that or my card is completely dead for some mysterious reason. |
| [05:36:00] | Tanthrix: | Brb a sec. |
| [05:36:00] | crazyhick: | do you have another card? |
| [05:36:00] | Tanthrix: | No. |
| [05:37:00] | crazyhick: | i would say that either the firmware file is bad or worse something got fried. |
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| [05:40:00] | Tanthrix: | Hrm. |
| [05:40:00] | Tanthrix: | When my bios boots up it has two "Multimedia Device" both using IRQ9. |
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| [05:41:00] | Flimzy: | Tanthrix: That'x exactly what my PVR150 does... |
| [05:41:00] | Flimzy: | I haven't found a solution yet |
| [05:41:00] | Flimzy: | I've tried the card in 3 PCI slots |
| [05:41:00] | Flimzy: | ... it works in Windows |
| [05:42:00] | Flimzy: | My firmware files are fine... I've verifid the md5's with others using them |
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| [05:42:00] | crazyhick: | my hdr3000 does that but the pvr 150 has seperate irq |
| [05:42:00] | Flimzy: | and the card works in Windows, in the same system, with the same PCI slot |
| [05:42:00] | Flimzy: | so I don't think anything is fried |
| [05:44:00] | Tanthrix: | Well, the thing is my card has been (mostly) working for months now. |
| [05:44:00] | Tanthrix: | I had one random issue like this when I had to reinstall the driver for no apparent reason, but since then it's been working fine. |
| [05:45:00] | Flimzy: | hmm |
| [05:48:00] | Tanthrix: | Reseating the card worked. |
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| [05:48:00] | Tanthrix: | I am so sick of these fucking random errors! |
| [05:48:00] | awstott: | lol |
| [05:48:00] | ** Tanthrix throws a brick at his computer ** | |
| [05:48:00] | crazyhick: | man i hate pc hardware. |
| [05:50:00] | crazyhick: | well at least you have tv again :) my backend is choking right now transcoding the blast of battlestar galactica today. |
| [05:51:00] | Tanthrix: | Hehe. Thanks for the help. |
| [05:52:00] | crazyhick: | i have been trying to get hd to work. So far it is starting to get stable, i am now trying to get trancoding to an optimal setting |
| [05:59:00] | Flimzy: | Are any ATI cards capable of the XvMC hardware mpeg2 acceleration like nvidia cards? |
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| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: I don't think so |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think it's more a Driver limitation than anything hardware |
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| [07:21:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, anyone here transfer their recordings to a video ipod? |
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| [07:54:00] | Dagmar: | tkooda: Pretty much no |
| [07:55:00] | Dagmar: | Normally I would never ask something like this, but is there any chance that mythtv 0.19 is going to come out between here and Christmas? (cuz I'm doing a binary package release) |
| [07:55:00] | Dagmar: | ...mind that I'm only worried about those five days. If it comes out after Christmas I'm not going to get upset |
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| [08:06:00] | Chutt: | dagmar, no |
| [08:06:00] | Dagmar: | Thank goodness |
| [08:06:00] | Chutt: | i'm too busy with work stuff |
| [08:07:00] | Dagmar: | I get very tired of releasing two packages every time from some minor thing I didn't notice. It's making me paranoid about other reasons I might have to turn around 30 minutes later and re-release |
| [08:07:00] | Dagmar: | Thankyou very much. :) |
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| [08:54:00] | Molotov: | sup |
| [08:55:00] | Molotov: | anyone awake? |
| [08:58:00] | Molotov: | i'm trying to use mythfilldatabase --file to import and xml listing because my myth box doesnt have internet access |
| [08:58:00] | Molotov: | can someone shed some light on the different flags? |
| [09:00:00] | Molotov: | source-id? |
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| [09:15:00] | poop: | man, HD and xvmc don't mix |
| [09:16:00] | Dagmar: | XvMC is pretty tetchy on nVidia still |
| [09:16:00] | Dagmar: | Support for it (I have been told) is much better in CVS than 0.18.1 |
| [09:17:00] | poop: | svn |
| [09:18:00] | poop: | weird, I turn off xvmc and I just get a blue screen during playback |
| [09:18:00] | Dagmar: | Weird. I just use libmpeg for output |
| [09:19:00] | poop: | libmpeg was much slower |
| [09:19:00] | Dagmar: | When i've tried to use XvMC I get _at best_ a monochrome OSD and quite often a *terrible* frame rate, even if it will play at the right speed at all |
| [09:23:00] | poop: | yeah, monochrome OSD is common |
| [09:23:00] | poop: | What chipset? |
| [09:24:00] | Dagmar: | nVidia 6600 on both a 32-bit AGP8x board and the new 64bit board with AGP8x |
| [09:24:00] | poop: | yikes |
| [09:24:00] | Dagmar: | I've not retested with the 8174 release driver |
| [09:24:00] | poop: | I wonder firewire will blow up. It's being too consistent right now. |
| [09:27:00] | poop: | opengl vsync seems to bump up cpu usage |
| [09:27:00] | Dagmar: | Probably an ugly spinlock in there or something |
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| [09:28:00] | poop: | Doesn't seem likely |
| [09:28:00] | poop: | (the cpu usage) |
| [09:28:00] | Dagmar: | I can't see any other explanation for why something like that would jack up CPU usage |
| [09:29:00] | poop: | 34–40% during playback of 1080i content (no deint) |
| [09:29:00] | poop: | liveable |
| [09:30:00] | ** poop observes and records ** | |
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| [10:39:00] | poop: | I need to bump down that firewire timeout |
| [10:41:00] | quicksilver: | Is SCART a UK-only thing? or a europe-only thing? |
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| [10:45:00] | poop: | Don't the frogs use it? |
| [10:46:00] | quicksilver: | I found my answer on wikipedia |
| [10:46:00] | quicksilver: | it's mostly european, apparently |
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| [10:54:00] | Cardoe: | grrr |
| [10:54:00] | Cardoe: | ivtv-0.4.1 is pissing me off |
| [10:54:00] | Cardoe: | __ucmpdi2 is undefined apparently. |
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| [11:20:00] | malaTG41: | hmmm just upgraded to ivtv 0.4.1 and I get TV for like 1 second and then it hangs anyone seen this? |
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| [11:30:00] | poop: | Is native dvd playback a big win over mythdvd? |
| [11:41:00] | foobum: | poop: what do you mean? |
| [11:41:00] | foobum: | poop: mythdvd is mostly ripping code, it launches a user-defined command to do playback (e.g. mplayer) |
| [11:42:00] | foobum: | poop: or the Internal plugin, which lacks menu support |
| [11:43:00] | foobum: | poop: but yeah, if the internal plugin worked well it would be a big win since it has the same look and feel / control as the rest of myth |
| [11:43:00] | foobum: | poop: WAF++ |
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| [12:29:00] | adante: | ping aussies? |
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| [12:31:00] | earthworm: | hello |
| [12:33:00] | malaTG41: | Hi everyone! I upgraded to ivtv 0.4.1 and now I only get static anyone got a clue why this happens |
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| [12:41:00] | Tank-: | I have a mythtv box, all working correctly except for one channel in liveTv. Infact its only the SD version of the channel. The video is displayed correctly but no audio |
| [12:41:00] | Tank-: | the audio is mp2 stream, and i don't have ac3 passthrough checked |
| [12:43:00] | Tank-: | I've read the last two months of dev and users mailling lists, I know its not just me, because I know a friend with a similar setup, with the same problem. |
| [12:43:00] | Tank-: | Australia, channel 7. |
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| [12:45:00] | earthworm: | anyone know if you can play radio streams in the myth music browser? |
| [12:55:00] | foobum: | malaTG: they renumbered the inputs |
| [12:55:00] | malaTG: | ok I have fixed that |
| [12:55:00] | malaTG: | however I removed all the ivtv stuff in modprobe.conf as they recommended since i use udev |
| [12:56:00] | malaTG: | when I run dmesg I get "tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set" |
| [12:56:00] | malaTG: | Should I set the tuner in modprobe.conf? |
| [12:56:00] | malaTG: | or something |
| [12:57:00] | foobum: | malaTG: dunno.. try i guess |
| [12:57:00] | malaTG: | ok |
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| [14:19:00] | Molotov: | what does <source-id> refer to in the mythfilldatabase --file command? |
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| [14:30:00] | Molotov: | is there a better myth support chan? |
| [14:33:00] | Cromz: | yeah google or the mailing lists. |
| [14:33:00] | Cromz: | this is the only user to user support chan I know of. |
| [14:34:00] | Molotov: | apparently the command i'm trying to figure out isnt used so much the way i need it to be |
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| [14:34:00] | Cromz: | wut are you trying to do? exactly? |
| [14:35:00] | Molotov: | my myth box doesnt have internet access so i'm trying to load an xml listing manually |
| [14:35:00] | Molotov: | i used xmltv-0.5.41-win32 to manually download it |
| [14:36:00] | Molotov: | (on a seperate box) |
| [14:36:00] | quicksilver: | Molotov: are you using DVB? |
| [14:37:00] | Molotov: | quicksilver: regular cable |
| [14:37:00] | Cromz: | http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/DataDirectHowTo there is a script there. you might be instested in. looks like if you redo part of it that might be your answer. near the bottom you should change the xml_file=${dirname}/${filename}.xml to that file. |
| [14:37:00] | quicksilver: | damn :( was going to suggest you use the in-band program guide. |
| [14:38:00] | Molotov: | basically for <source-id> i put '1' |
| [14:38:00] | Molotov: | i guess that answers my question |
| [14:38:00] | Molotov: | heh |
| [14:38:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [14:39:00] | Molotov: | i've seen that but wasnt sure where they come up with that number |
| [14:39:00] | Cromz: | they show a little mysql command to make sure you use 1 or something else. |
| [14:40:00] | Cromz: | step 8 |
| [14:40:00] | Molotov: | thanks man |
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| [14:41:00] | Molotov: | gotta jet for work but this gives some hope for tonight :) |
| [14:43:00] | mjmac: | woohoo... got an email from gerd with some things to try to make the samsung tuner in my pvr500 work. some progress. now i can see the home shopping network in black-and-white! sadly, that's all i can see. :/ |
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| [14:43:00] | quicksilver: | I get black-and-white atm |
| [14:44:00] | quicksilver: | apparently it's probably because my TV doesn't support s-video |
| [14:44:00] | quicksilver: | I'm gonna buy a composite cable and try that |
| [14:45:00] | mjmac: | well, i'm streaming mpeg over netcat from a headless box in the basement. i don't think it's that. :) |
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| [15:14:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | when I'm in edit mode, how do I cut out all the commercials? |
| [15:17:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | also, is there a way I can transcode to divx? |
| [15:17:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | or xvid, or anything else thats not mpeg 2? |
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| [15:30:00] | Baylink: | JoeyJoeJo: we transcode to MPEG4, and I don't recall that it was troublesome to set up. |
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| [15:31:00] | laga: | Baylink: heya! any news on the wiki move? |
| [15:36:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | Baylink: is there a guide anywhere about how to do it? |
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| [15:40:00] | Baylink: | I was just looking at that, oddly, laga. |
| [15:40:00] | Baylink: | It's well in process; the stuff has been done and the pages need to be sorted. |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | nice :) |
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| [15:49:00] | earthw0rm: | i keep getting "this version of xmame is not supported" – does anyone know why? it ought to be alright |
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| [15:49:00] | earthw0rm: | this is on FC4 with the latest of everything i could get my hands on via RPM |
| [15:50:00] | shadsash: | anybody know when the next version is going to be out? |
| [15:50:00] | shadsash: | 18.1 is getting long in the tooth |
| [15:50:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | earthworm: when do you get the error |
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| [15:51:00] | shadash: | ok how about this... Is there a new wiki anywhere? the .info one is pretty old |
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| [15:57:00] | shadash: | o_cee: any word on a new release? |
| [15:58:00] | quicksilver: | Can I teach myth to cope with a hybrid card? I.e. you can use DVB#0 or video0, but not at the same time? |
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| [15:59:00] | whyz: | i read somewhere which resolutions should be used with the pvr 350 (other than full res) to avoid garbage output at the bottom of the image.. can someone tell me where to find this info? |
| [16:00:00] | whyz: | i need something like 300x200-ish |
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| [16:00:00] | earthw0rm: | JoeyJoeJo: i get the error when i try to scan for games, or browse the available games |
| [16:01:00] | earthw0rm: | i managed to get rtype to work on the thing outside of xmame, so i know it works |
| [16:01:00] | atrius: | i was wondering, is it possible/pratical to use mythcommflag outside of mythtv? as on a standalone avi or mpeg? |
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| [16:01:00] | WhyteShadow: | hey all, i just did a recording on my mythbox, i have pvr 150 and it does not have a hardware encoder. so where/how do i get it to a mpg file i can watch using mplayer? |
| [16:02:00] | WhyteShadow: | or a guide that tells how to do this |
| [16:02:00] | MiX-MaN: | any news on any new releases? |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | you already have a big mpeg file somewhere, it just has a .nuv file extension. i don't understand your problem |
| [16:02:00] | WhyteShadow: | laga, oh really? i didnt realizet hat |
| [16:03:00] | WhyteShadow: | laga, do you have a clue where mythtv stores it on default? |
| [16:03:00] | laga: | WhyteShadow: no. just check mythtv-setup |
| [16:04:00] | WhyteShadow: | oh duh |
| [16:04:00] | WhyteShadow: | brb |
| [16:04:00] | WhyteShadow: | hmmm |
| [16:04:00] | WhyteShadow: | argh |
| [16:05:00] | earthw0rm: | hmm |
| [16:05:00] | earthw0rm: | not going well with mythgame, znes and snes9x both have problems, and xmame isn't supported ... that doesn't leave much |
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| [16:07:00] | shadash: | does mythgame still suck |
| [16:07:00] | shadash: | grrr |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | mythgame works fine in SVN ;). |
| [16:09:00] | WhyteShadow: | dangig |
| [16:09:00] | WhyteShadow: | i cant find it |
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| [16:11:00] | shadash: | laga can you explain SVN for me? |
| [16:11:00] | atrius: | is there anyway to use mythcommflag on a random file? |
| [16:11:00] | shadash: | what does SVN mean |
| [16:11:00] | quicksilver: | subversion |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | shadash: svn.mythtv.org |
| [16:11:00] | quicksilver: | it's a revision control system |
| [16:11:00] | shadash: | thanks |
| [16:12:00] | earthw0rm: | as far as i can tell, i have the latest version of xmame, could it actually be too recent? |
| [16:12:00] | quicksilver: | laga: what state is svn in at the moment? better or worse than 18.1 for a user? |
| [16:12:00] | shadash: | any word on a release? |
| [16:12:00] | earthw0rm: | xmame-0.102–1.2.fc4 |
| [16:12:00] | WhyteShadow: | hey all, i just did a recording on my mythbox, i have pvr 150 and it does not have a hardware encoder. so where/how do i get it to a mpg file i can watch using mplayer? |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | mythtv 0.19 should be there 'soon', so i dunno if it's worth to switch to svn just to get mythgame working |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | quicksilver: it works pretty well for me |
| [16:12:00] | shadash: | I'll need to create some rpms |
| [16:12:00] | shadash: | get .19 out soon :-) |
| [16:12:00] | earthw0rm: | laga: does the upcomming release fix this stuff? |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | earthw0rm: mythgame? |
| [16:12:00] | fryfrog: | er, pvr 150 *is* a hardware encoder |
| [16:13:00] | WhyteShadow: | fryfrog, oh it is? |
| [16:13:00] | fryfrog: | yup! |
| [16:13:00] | praet: | i concur |
| [16:13:00] | WhyteShadow: | fryfrog, probably a mistake in words |
| [16:13:00] | praet: | it dumps to mpeg2 |
| [16:13:00] | WhyteShadow: | basically im trying to look for my just recorded file |
| [16:13:00] | WhyteShadow: | so i can play it in mplayer |
| [16:13:00] | fryfrog: | should be where ever you pointed myth to in setup |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [16:14:00] | fryfrog: | for me, it is /mnt/mythtv/ |
| [16:14:00] | praet: | oh it should be in your recordings directory. |
| [16:14:00] | earthw0rm: | laga: yeah |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | wearing Oakley X-Metal Romeos... at work |
| [16:14:00] | WhyteShadow: | fryfrog, what is the default |
| [16:14:00] | WhyteShadow: | fryfrog, i never changed it |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | damn this headache |
| [16:14:00] | atrius: | or better yet... does anyone know of a way for mythtv to use tivo recordings as a video source? the tivo is already on the network |
| [16:14:00] | fryfrog: | is it /mythtv/recordings? |
| [16:14:00] | WhyteShadow: | i dont have that |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | earthw0rm: mythgame lets you define your own emulators so it should work with any version of mame |
| [16:15:00] | praet: | run mythtvsetup |
| [16:15:00] | praet: | WhyteShadow in mythtvsetup it is in the general options |
| [16:15:00] | WhyteShadow: | ahh ok |
| [16:16:00] | WhyteShadow: | ahh ha |
| [16:17:00] | praet: | the file names are based on the database and time-dates |
| [16:17:00] | WhyteShadow: | haha i found it! |
| [16:17:00] | WhyteShadow: | thanks |
| [16:17:00] | WhyteShadow: | im sorry for being dumb.. |
| [16:17:00] | praet: | i think there is a 'friendly name' patch or script |
| [16:17:00] | praet: | but ive never used/needed it |
| [16:18:00] | praet: | WhyteShadow most of use create a dedicated partition (wherever there is the most space) for the recordings |
| [16:18:00] | WhyteShadow: | yea i should have odne that |
| [16:18:00] | WhyteShadow: | but oh well |
| [16:18:00] | praet: | like mounting an drive as /video |
| [16:18:00] | WhyteShadow: | itll give me something even more to add to my project |
| [16:19:00] | WhyteShadow: | i just made me a symlinkf or it.. just as easy |
| [16:19:00] | earthw0rm: | laga: hmm, it sees fit to moan about my setup for some reason |
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| [16:20:00] | quicksilver: | even better to use lvm |
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| [16:21:00] | quicksilver: | I have my main drive all lvmed |
| [16:21:00] | quicksilver: | then I can add stuff to /var/video when I want to |
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| [16:21:00] | quicksilver: | (including buying a new driver, if I choose to) |
| [16:21:00] | quicksilver: | drive that should be |
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| [16:21:00] | quicksilver: | WhyteShadow: yeah there is a script which makes nice symlinks for all your files |
| [16:21:00] | praet: | yeah that is good thinking for upgrading |
| [16:21:00] | quicksilver: | WhyteShadow: i.e. symlinks with the name of the program |
| [16:22:00] | Cardoe: | hey Beirdo |
| [16:22:00] | praet: | hrmm is there any setting which will change channels based on three digits? |
| [16:22:00] | praet: | like 002, 123 etc |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | heya |
| [16:24:00] | WhyteShadow: | quicksilver, i just made a symlink to the default recordings folder on the deskotp |
| [16:25:00] | quicksilver: | WhyteShadow: well yes; I meant a symlink for each recording, with the name of the actual show |
| [16:25:00] | quicksilver: | WhyteShadow: that's what the script does |
| [16:25:00] | WhyteShadow: | quicksilver, oh neat |
| [16:25:00] | WhyteShadow: | quicksilver, so can i just change the ".nuv" to ".mpg? |
| [16:25:00] | quicksilver: | I believe there is no harm in that |
| [16:25:00] | quicksilver: | in fact, I think the new version of myth (in svn) calls them mpg |
| [16:26:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | whats svn? |
| [16:26:00] | so_: | in my myth |
| [16:26:00] | so_: | they are linked in /myth/pretty/ as .mpg |
| [16:26:00] | so_: | same files |
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| [16:26:00] | quicksilver: | svn is subversion |
| [16:26:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ah |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | so_: you're probably running knoppmyth, that's not the default behaviour. |
| [16:28:00] | WhyteShadow: | thank you all so mcuh.. good day |
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| [16:30:00] | praet: | anyone know how to auto change the default 2 digit channels to 3 digits? |
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| [16:32:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [16:33:00] | Cardoe: | for some stupid reason ivtv 0.4.0 works and 0.4.1 don't |
| [16:34:00] | Cardoe: | cx25840: Unknown symbol __ucmpdi2 |
| [16:34:00] | Cardoe: | in 0.4.1 |
| [16:34:00] | earthw0rm: | lol, i can't email the article author, my web/mail server died again, yet more hard disk woes |
| [16:34:00] | Cardoe: | I can't find that symbol in non-arm architectures |
| [16:37:00] | quicksilver: | you managed to compile wrongly |
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| [16:37:00] | quicksilver: | against the wrong maths lib maybe |
| [16:38:00] | Cardoe: | well then it's a flaw in the makefile |
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| [16:40:00] | malaTG: | hmmmm got a crazy idea. Wonder if a could control myth with a voicecontrol program such as perlbox or something :-) |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | should work, it's just keypresses |
| [16:42:00] | malaTG: | exactly |
| [16:42:00] | malaTG: | and if I could do why not :-) |
| [16:43:00] | Cardoe: | how would it pick up the voicecommands over TV? |
| [16:43:00] | Cardoe: | the background noise that is |
| [16:44:00] | laga: | just YELL |
| [16:44:00] | laga: | or an usb headset |
| [16:44:00] | malaTG: | you can use a "magic word" |
| [16:44:00] | malaTG: | such as activate or something |
| [16:45:00] | laga: | usb? bluetooth i mean |
| [16:45:00] | fryfrog: | and then that *one* time the tv commercial says "And our one time only $100 COMPUTER OFF deal" :) |
| [16:45:00] | Cardoe: | but either way |
| [16:45:00] | malaTG: | yeaa bluetooth would work |
| [16:45:00] | Cardoe: | background noise |
| [16:45:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: ha |
| [16:45:00] | malaTG: | if you have the mic near you it should disturbe |
| [16:45:00] | malaTG: | near the sofa |
| [16:45:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: does that mean it'll run the command 100 times |
| [16:46:00] | fryfrog: | or just turn your computer off |
| [16:46:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: 100 times! |
| [16:46:00] | malaTG: | hehe |
| [16:46:00] | fryfrog: | i always make my voice command prefix "computer" |
| [16:46:00] | fryfrog: | cause i think it makes me cool |
| [16:46:00] | fryfrog: | just like people on ST |
| [16:46:00] | malaTG: | lol |
| [16:46:00] | fryfrog: | "computer, please start playing pornography" |
| [16:47:00] | malaTG: | no your quota has alread been exceeded |
| [16:47:00] | quicksilver: | I would make my prefix 'henry' |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | computer, please activate holodeck program "Dirty College Girls" |
| [16:47:00] | malaTG: | HAHA |
| [16:47:00] | fryfrog: | ahahhah |
| [16:48:00] | fryfrog: | s/Dirty/Easy Dirty :) |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | same difference |
| [16:49:00] | malaTG: | does anyone use any kind of voice control software? |
| [16:49:00] | fryfrog: | i don't know how they get people to leave the holodeck :/ |
| [16:49:00] | fryfrog: | i used it back when i had a p100 |
| [16:49:00] | fryfrog: | it sucked penix |
| [16:49:00] | malaTG: | ok but that must have been a while ago? |
| [16:49:00] | malaTG: | which software? |
| [16:49:00] | fryfrog: | dragon something? |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | why the hell would I want voice control? |
| [16:50:00] | fryfrog: | and it was in like 96 |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather use a keybard |
| [16:50:00] | fryfrog: | and it sure wasn't for myth! |
| [16:50:00] | fryfrog: | i think i was using a *perfectly* legal copy of win98 beta :) |
| [16:50:00] | praet: | naturally speaking |
| [16:50:00] | Cardoe: | quicksilver: so what "math" library do I have to drop in to make this work |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | alf the time I'm on the phone anyways |
| [16:50:00] | malaTG: | hehe |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | half even |
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| [16:51:00] | fryfrog: | i can't talk on the phone and do *anything* at the same time :/ |
| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [16:51:00] | fryfrog: | unless its directly related |
| [16:51:00] | fryfrog: | or drivign :/ |
| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | asterisk-stat is saying I have 0 min use in December |
| [16:51:00] | fryfrog: | i have no multi-tasking or hyper threading |
| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | wonder what I broke |
| [16:51:00] | fryfrog: | asterisk save you much $$$? |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | mucho |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | most of my calls are to/from Puerto Rico |
| [16:52:00] | praet: | what about skype? |
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| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | skype. ick |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | most of my calls are completely free, using a server I control |
| [16:52:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: fix ivtv for me |
| [16:53:00] | praet: | asterisk-stat ? |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | find / -name ivtv* | xargs -n 100 rm |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | there |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | fixed |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:53:00] | Cardoe: | thx |
| [16:53:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: I think rm -rf / would be a more complete solution |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, asterisk-stat |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | it shows CDRs, etc |
| [16:54:00] | praet: | neat |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | and apparently it doesn't like Dec 2005 in the monthly traffic |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | 0 min, my ASS |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | I had 90min already today |
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| [16:57:00] | praet: | what hardware are you using for that? |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | Celeron 566 |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | slimline Dell GX1 |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | it's POS |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | but it works fine :) |
| [16:59:00] | praet: | do you need a cpu on the other end? |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | nah, I use an ATA |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | I have an IAXy at my fiancee's house |
| [16:59:00] | praet: | yeah ive got a gx1.. p3 500 |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | and several SIP ATAs at my place |
| [17:00:00] | Cardoe: | IAXy? |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [17:00:00] | Cardoe: | wtf is that |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | it's an ATA |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | made by digium |
| [17:00:00] | praet: | IUnter-Asterisk Exchange |
| [17:00:00] | praet: | *inter |
| [17:00:00] | Cardoe: | ah |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | it uses IAX instead of SIP |
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| [17:00:00] | praet: | whats your full hardware cost? |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | and it has only ulaw. blech |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's also nat safe where as SIP is a pain when one end is natted |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | Ummm, I dunno.. likely $700 or so |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | but it can be done a lot cheaper if you're careful |
| [17:01:00] | ** MajestiK wonders if Beirdo knows how to stay ontopic... :) ** | |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | now if only I knew what asterisk-stat's damage was |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | MajestiK: bite me :) |
| [17:02:00] | MajestiK: | Nah |
| [17:02:00] | praet: | well have to bring this up again after research |
| [17:02:00] | praet: | back to mythtv |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | damn you, stats! |
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| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't bother keeping track on my box |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got like 15 family members that use it basically all the time |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the girls love conference calls :) |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
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| [17:06:00] | praet: | what upstream do you need on the server? |
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| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | according to my cacti graphs the box hovers in the 8K-32K most of the "primetime" |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | rarely are they all using it at the same time |
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| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | most of the day the usage is basically 0 :) |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | expect some increase during the holidays ;) |
| [17:08:00] | praet: | eheh |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe I imagine |
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| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm not worried, I've got plenty |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | and worst case scenario I can quietly redirect them to another asterisk box that has a lot more BW |
| [17:10:00] | praet: | the users each have an atx plugged into a high speed connect? |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | some have sip phones, some have ata bricks, others have softphones (X-Lite) |
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| [17:12:00] | praet: | GreyFoxx what are you using for the server hardware |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | A P3 650 I had laying around and a $10 X100P clone fxo card |
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| [17:15:00] | praet: | heh a quick lookup finds a clone for $35 |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not when I bought them :) |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | ebay is your friend |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, it 3was that day, other days it's a lying bastard |
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| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: here's the issue |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | SELECT sum(duration) FROM cdr WHERE calldate >= '2005-12–01' AND calldate < '2005-13–01' |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | dunno which retard let that happen :) |
| [17:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | turned on SQL logging to find that |
| [17:18:00] | praet: | is that card for dialing local calls on the landline from an incoming user? |
| [17:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | praet: yeah dialing and answering landline calls |
| [17:19:00] | praet: | nice catch Beirdo |
| [17:19:00] | fryfrog: | so you can only make one *outgoing* call at a time, but as many internal ones as you want? |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | it's what I expected the issue was |
| [17:19:00] | fryfrog: | or can you use some other service to make the outgoing ones? |
| [17:19:00] | fryfrog: | thats something i was never quite clear on reading astericks info |
| [17:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: 1 per fxo port for pstn access |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | I use VOIP providers for outbound calls |
| [17:20:00] | praet: | when i get a landline i'll no more work on it.. maybe in the office even |
| [17:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | for if you have a account with vonage or other online providers you can send the calls through them |
| [17:20:00] | fryfrog: | Beirdo: paid voip proviceders or? |
| [17:20:00] | fryfrog: | ahhh |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | and inbound calls |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | paid, yes |
| [17:20:00] | ** Tommck wonders what we're talking about ** | |
| [17:21:00] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: when you said the girls love the conferencing, is that how you meant? |
| [17:21:00] | fryfrog: | over voip? |
| [17:21:00] | praet: | sorry Tommck were got onto the topic of asterisk logging, which led to hardware |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | ah damn |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | now I feel compelled to send in a bug-report |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: yes, over voip |
| [17:21:00] | Tommck: | praet – ahh.. cool.. was wondering :) |
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| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | there, bug report sent |
| [17:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: I have many family members that spend hours a day on the phone with each other and it was costing thema fortune in LD feeds |
| [17:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | fees |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | I love using voip |
| [17:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | most of them had broadband connections so I hooked them up with this and they are saving a collecting $1000 or so a month |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | it's soooo much cheaper if you have broadband |
| [17:27:00] | Tommck: | GreyFoxx – I have unlimited long distance inside the country (USA) for $49/month from Verizon... that's not bad |
| [17:27:00] | Tommck: | and no software/hardware to support :) |
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| [17:28:00] | Discipulus: | how do VoIP providers work? |
| [17:29:00] | Discipulus: | like, how do you connect internet -> landline calls? |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, 15 familiy members x $49 = $735. They are already paying for their broadband connection, so in reality it took me a one time couple hours effort to install and configure and a $10 card..... which do you think is a better deal ? :) |
| [17:29:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [17:29:00] | Tommck: | I'd use it if I could get a decent connection... I'm on DirecWay |
| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | and most of them are mixed between Canada and the US, so inside country plans only help so much :) |
| [17:30:00] | Tommck: | yeah.. understandable.. |
| [17:30:00] | Tommck: | one day we'll annex Canada and get rid of that problem .. hehe :) |
| [17:30:00] | Tommck: | j/k |
| [17:30:00] | Discipulus: | lol |
| [17:30:00] | Discipulus: | Canada – the 51st state. |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | god I hope not :) |
| [17:31:00] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: did you install an astrisk box in each of your family's locations? |
| [17:31:00] | Discipulus: | You know a lot about VoIP? |
| [17:32:00] | Discipulus: | what's an astrisk box? |
| [17:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: no, a single box here in my house. they all connect to it |
| [17:32:00] | fryfrog: | i'm dumb :0 |
| [17:32:00] | praet: | i think all you need is a voip adapter |
| [17:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Discipulus: Opensource voip software |
| [17:32:00] | fryfrog: | how do they connect? with a voip telephone? |
| [17:32:00] | fryfrog: | or with some software on their pc or? |
| [17:32:00] | Tommck: | GreyFoxx – I didn't know that worked that way... then what does your house have/do? |
| [17:32:00] | Discipulus: | GreyFoxx, got a tutorial on VoIP or something I can read |
| [17:32:00] | praet: | fryfrog i think you buy hardware that plugs into your internet connect and you plug you analog phone into that |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: I went over this already, some have SIP phones(hardware looks like a regular phone) some use ATA adaptes plugged into regular phones and some use pc software |
| [17:33:00] | fryfrog: | ahh, thats what you meant when you talked about that |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tommck: My house has a single server they all connect to over the net. |
| [17:33:00] | praet: | hey is there a way to get right to the epg from live tv? |
| [17:33:00] | Discipulus: | GreyFoxx, so how do Internet -> Landline calls work? |
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| [17:33:00] | Tommck: | and then you have an outgoing land line? that's cool |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Discipulus: My server has a fxo card plugged into a landline |
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| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | they can all call each other with their sip extensions or dial 9 to get and outside (local Halifax) line |
| [17:34:00] | Discipulus: | ah |
| [17:34:00] | Tommck: | so they can't make more than one outgoing call amongst them, but all their long-distance to each other is free? |
| [17:34:00] | Tommck: | sweet |
| [17:34:00] | praet: | yeah but you foot the bill for local connections |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tommck: yeah, unless I added more lines which isn't a issue at the moment |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | praet: Costs me nothing |
| [17:34:00] | Tommck: | do they maintain their normal landlines too? |
| [17:35:00] | Discipulus: | GreyFoxx, how does it cost you nothing? |
| [17:35:00] | praet: | you dont pay for a phone line? |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I already have broadband and a second line I wasn't using for phone stuff |
| [17:35:00] | Discipulus: | ah |
| [17:35:00] | praet: | wow you managed to cut a lot of costs |
| [17:35:00] | praet: | anyone know the keymapping to do this>> is there a way to get right to the epg from live tv? |
| [17:35:00] | Discipulus: | so how does Vonage manage it? |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | a voip only setup would cost you nothing but the box (if you already have the broadband connection) |
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| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I don't pay for my phone or home broadband, so it costs me nothing but the electricity to the box :) |
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| [17:37:00] | fryfrog: | thats quite interesting :0 |
| [17:37:00] | fryfrog: | and... why don't you pay for it? :) |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Work pays for both |
| [17:37:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [17:38:00] | fryfrog: | you work from home? |
| [17:38:00] | Cromz: | yeah but are you willing to use mythphone to say call Beirdo? *snicker* ;) |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope, not often |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | mythphone?! |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [17:38:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | I tried it once |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [17:38:00] | Cromz: | it's a cool idea.. I havnt' tried it yet. |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: Every company I've worked for since 98 has paid for my home broadband |
| [17:38:00] | DrBair: | has anyone heard any reports on using an ati all-in-wonder radeon with the X.org CVS? Supposedly it supports TV-out now |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | my mysql on my main server has logging on |
| [17:38:00] | fryfrog: | lucky bastard! |
| [17:39:00] | fryfrog: | ISDN back then? |
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| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope cable modem. back in 98 I was working for/adminning my local cable isp |
| [17:39:00] | fryfrog: | neat |
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| [17:40:00] | fryfrog: | I got real lucky with cable, Athens GA got cable modems before Atlanta, GA |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | We've had them locally since '96 |
| [17:41:00] | fryfrog: | thats spiffy! |
| [17:41:00] | fryfrog: | what city? |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada |
| [17:41:00] | fryfrog: | was it gov subsidised or? |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
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| [17:42:00] | fryfrog: | i'd have moved to canada for cable in 96 :) |
| [17:42:00] | fryfrog: | I think i got it in 98 or 99 ish |
| [17:42:00] | fryfrog: | back before they started to clamp down on up/down speeds |
| [17:43:00] | fryfrog: | man, it *ZOOMED* |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | ours keep going up |
| [17:43:00] | fryfrog: | i hate you :/ |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | currently 10MB down, 1.5MB up |
| [17:43:00] | fryfrog: | bastard :/ |
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| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | quite spoiled here :) |
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| [17:44:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes to eat lunch ** | |
| [17:45:00] | |Slurpee|: | sweett |
| [17:45:00] | |Slurpee|: | fedex tracking info says my mythtv stuff was delivered today ~!!! |
| [17:45:00] | praet: | when you guys are in live tv, and you hit "M" to bring up the EPG a menu comes up with a few options.. is there a way to go directly to the first option (the epg schedule screen) |
| [17:45:00] | praet: | nice |Slurpee| |
| [17:45:00] | |Slurpee|: | yea praet, thanx for helping me with the ordering |
| [17:46:00] | praet: | or maybe a way to send two keys in lird |
| [17:46:00] | Cromz: | I am gonna have to see that menu.. I've never tried that lol |
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| [17:48:00] | praet: | the menu gives program guide, enable browse mode, previous chan etc |
| [17:48:00] | praet: | i want it to go straight to program guide |
| [17:49:00] | Cromz: | oh.. hmm yeah I've seen that one then. I use my remote so I didn't know the key lol |
| [17:49:00] | praet: | Cromz is that the default that happens on your box? |
| [17:50:00] | rjmunro: | Anyone know about qt-embedded? It's mentioned on mythtv.org as being added at the 0.14 release, but there seems to be no mention of it in any docs. |
| [17:50:00] | Cromz: | the menu.. the top one is highlighted. |
| [17:50:00] | Cromz: | I normally just hit chanel up during live. .then jump around to see whats on. |
| [17:51:00] | Cromz: | not using that guide.. |
| [17:51:00] | praet: | i thought so |
| [17:51:00] | praet: | thanks |
| [17:51:00] | sPiN: | how exactly does mythv work? as far as screens... i have a nvidia 6600GT can i do tvout with it while still running my dual displays? my old ati 9600 could not do this |
| [17:51:00] | Cromz: | praet, you should be able to assign a key seq like that in hmm .lircrc file. |
| [17:52:00] | praet: | yeah i am working on multiple key-stroke sequences |
| [17:52:00] | sPiN: | im all for it being on the tv, do not really want it taking up one of my screens though |
| [17:52:00] | praet: | no dual screen experience here |
| [17:54:00] | Cromz: | I run dual but never messed with the tv out part. that's next week on my time off I'll get time to play with all that ;) |
| [17:55:00] | maniacxs: | hi i am getting "[mpegts @ 0xb7598360]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 !" when using mythtranscode the same error while watching livetv mythtranscode works, but livetv does not. a code problem? |
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| [17:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | praet: I believe you can set a jump point to jump directly to the EPG |
| [17:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's configurable in mythweb or maybe under mythcontrols(which I've never looked at) |
| [18:02:00] | praet: | k im looking it up |
| [18:08:00] | praet: | excellent... thanks GreyFoxx |
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| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | fugging splits |
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| [18:23:00] | heinola: | any here use that leadtek WinFast TV2000 XP RM ? |
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| [18:28:00] | poop: | So you don't have to go toggling AC3/ DTS passthrough, right? It detects it and does the right thing? |
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| [18:29:00] | wega: | i cannot get commercials to skip |
| [18:30:00] | wega: | i cannot get commercials to skip, anyone got any ideas? |
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| [18:30:00] | poop: | wega: yes, I have the answer for you |
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| [18:31:00] | wega: | my commercials get marked, but it seems that they are marked improperly as i cannot skip commercials |
| [18:31:00] | wega: | anyone think they can help? |
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| [18:39:00] | poop: | wega: None of the options have any effect? |
| [18:39:00] | wega: | well you mean which ones? |
| [18:39:00] | wega: | poop: the ones for detection? |
| [18:40:00] | poop: | yeah |
| [18:40:00] | wega: | i am only using blank screen |
| [18:40:00] | poop: | So is the Mythcenter theme what MCE looks like? |
| [18:40:00] | poop: | Whhy are you only using that? |
| [18:41:00] | wega: | i dont know, it seems to work on my friends computer |
| [18:42:00] | wega: | what do you use? |
| [18:42:00] | poop: | The mailing lists would probably be better for discussing the technology, but to just get it working the approach is usually trial and error. |
| [18:42:00] | fryfrog: | how do you define not working btw wega? |
| [18:43:00] | fryfrog: | when mine flags commercials, i have it notify me 2 sec before a commercial starts |
| [18:43:00] | fryfrog: | then i can use the "z" key to skip it |
| [18:43:00] | wega: | fryfrog: each recording upon playback goes into commercials... all of them |
| [18:43:00] | fryfrog: | (vs. auto-skipping) |
| [18:43:00] | wega: | i use auto skipping |
| [18:43:00] | fryfrog: | does your myth *say* it has a commercial list? |
| [18:43:00] | fryfrog: | does the "z" key during a commercial skip it? |
| [18:43:00] | wega: | where is that? |
| [18:44:00] | fryfrog: | i *believe* when you hover over a recording |
| [18:44:00] | fryfrog: | you'll see a few icons |
| [18:44:00] | fryfrog: | i thnk F1 will give you the "key" |
| [18:44:00] | fryfrog: | but they can indicate if you have a book mark, if its been commercial flagged, if it will auto-expire and a few other things |
| [18:44:00] | wega: | i see that the ads have been flagged so there is an icon there to indicate no commercials |
| [18:45:00] | wega: | but still auto-skip is on |
| [18:45:00] | fryfrog: | i see |
| [18:45:00] | fryfrog: | 0.18? or svn? |
| [18:45:00] | wega: | .18 |
| [18:45:00] | fryfrog: | i guess its 0.18.1 "official"? |
| [18:45:00] | wega: | what is svn? |
| [18:45:00] | fryfrog: | hummm |
| [18:45:00] | fryfrog: | know what cvs is? |
| [18:45:00] | wega: | rings a bell |
| [18:46:00] | fryfrog: | either way, its the "dev" version |
| [18:46:00] | fryfrog: | bleeding edge, all that jazz |
| [18:46:00] | fryfrog: | nothing is coming to mind for why the cutlist isn't working... |
| [18:46:00] | fryfrog: | you could go to "edit" |
| [18:46:00] | fryfrog: | and try loading the "flaglist" into the "cutlist" to see if its there |
| [18:46:00] | fryfrog: | i'd also try turning *off* auto-skip |
| [18:47:00] | fryfrog: | turning *on* "notify" (maybe 1 or 2 sec before commercial) |
| [18:47:00] | wega: | should i try a different detection ? |
| [18:47:00] | fryfrog: | then trying the "z" key to skip commercials |
| [18:47:00] | fryfrog: | if you like |
| [18:47:00] | wega: | i am trying that now |
| [18:47:00] | wega: | the turning off of autoskip and turning on notify |
| [18:48:00] | wega: | ok |
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| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | wega: svn is subversion. Google can find you plenty more details if you need more. It's like CVS but newer and better |
| [18:48:00] | wega: | no notification, i went straight into commercials |
| [18:48:00] | wega: | ahhh |
| [18:48:00] | wega: | thanks |
| [18:49:00] | fryfrog: | it really sounds like your not actually getting them flagged, but i dunno |
| [18:49:00] | wega: | ok so inside of the commercials i press z and it tells me that it isnt flagged |
| [18:49:00] | wega: | exactly |
| [18:49:00] | wega: | what detection settings do you use? |
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| [18:49:00] | fryfrog: | all of em |
| [18:49:00] | wega: | ahhh |
| [18:50:00] | wega: | i only use blank screen |
| [18:50:00] | wega: | that could be it |
| [18:50:00] | fryfrog: | you know it takes 2–3 hours sometimes after a video is recorded? |
| [18:50:00] | wega: | yeah this is days old |
| [18:51:00] | poop: | Did think it was too risky to try motion detection? |
| [18:51:00] | wega: | i know it does the actual flagging afterwards |
| [18:51:00] | wega: | i just used the detection settings a friend has and it works great for him in the same city |
| [18:51:00] | wega: | presumably the same cable provider |
| [18:52:00] | poop: | Yeah, you don't want to risk it. |
| [18:52:00] | poop: | Also, is your VCR flashing? |
| [18:52:00] | wega: | well i might as well |
| [18:52:00] | wega: | vcr? |
| [18:52:00] | praet: | lol |
| [18:52:00] | wega: | i have no vcr |
| [18:53:00] | wega: | praet: what are you laughing at |
| [18:53:00] | poop: | Because your buddy doesn't have one? |
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| [18:53:00] | wega: | no because i just dont own one |
| [18:53:00] | wega: | are you being mean? |
| [18:53:00] | awstott: | lol |
| [18:54:00] | poop: | <-- a real bastard |
| [18:54:00] | wega: | poop: that was harsh |
| [18:54:00] | poop: | This Mythcenter theme looks pretty good widescreen. |
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| [18:55:00] | praet: | poop yeah i am using that as well |
| [18:55:00] | poop: | I hear the internet has bad people. |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | play nice, kids. this isn't the IRCnet ;) |
| [18:55:00] | poop: | praet: This has to be what MCE looks like. |
| [18:56:00] | wega: | laga: thanks for looking after |
| [18:56:00] | wega: | me |
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| [19:00:00] | poop: | damn, AC3/ DTS passthrough is all or nothing |
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| [19:07:00] | Psofa: | is there any way to change the position of the tvout? im on an nvidia card with the propertiary drivers |
| [19:09:00] | DrBair: | I think the nvidias have some sort of tools to adjust that |
| [19:09:00] | Psofa: | the nvidia-settings tool allows me to change overscan |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | yep, it's called nvidia-settings |
| [19:09:00] | DrBair: | what about nvtv? |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | nvtv is only for really old tnt cards I thought? |
| [19:10:00] | laga: | Psofa: you could play around with xvidtune or however it's called |
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| [19:11:00] | DrBair: | kormoc: thats certainly possible, it said no supported card on my system |
| [19:11:00] | Psofa: | laga, but thats xvideo only right? |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | Psofa: yeah. that's what you're using, right? |
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| [19:12:00] | Psofa: | but i want it for mythtv menu too |
| [19:13:00] | Psofa: | and i dont like nvtv .I have configured perfectly the overscan with nvidias thing |
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| [19:13:00] | laga: | oh, sorry. it works for X in general, it helps you to tune your mode, i believe |
| [19:14:00] | Psofa: | damn cant i do somthing through xorg.conf |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | Psofa: just try xvidtune ;) |
| [19:15:00] | kormoc: | Psofa, you sure can |
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| [19:15:00] | kormoc: | Psofa, the nvidia readme has info on setting overscan settings |
| [19:15:00] | Psofa: | i dont want xvid tune bcause i cant see shit on the tv |
| [19:15:00] | Psofa: | overscan is fine |
| [19:16:00] | Psofa: | very easy to configure |
| [19:16:00] | Psofa: | just perfect |
| [19:16:00] | Psofa: | :) |
| [19:16:00] | kormoc: | so what do you want to change? |
| [19:16:00] | Psofa: | the position |
| [19:16:00] | kormoc: | you can change the position in the mythtv settings somewhere too, the gui offset I beleive |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | you know, back in those days, we didn't even have nvidia-settings. we had to do everything in the X config file. but mind you, it wasn't xorg.conf. it used to be called XFreeConfig! |
| [19:16:00] | Psofa: | nah thats stealling |
| [19:17:00] | ** laga runs ** | |
| [19:17:00] | Psofa: | :PP |
| [19:17:00] | Psofa: | im not so new as you might think |
| [19:17:00] | Psofa: | i still remember the xfreeconfig |
| [19:17:00] | Psofa: | ;D |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [19:17:00] | Psofa: | i want the setting to be X general |
| [19:18:00] | Psofa: | not myth-specific |
| [19:18:00] | kormoc: | Psofa, you have a issue with that then |
| [19:18:00] | Psofa: | :D |
| [19:18:00] | kormoc: | Psofa, you can make the res of the screen larger then it is, and set a virutal viewspace |
| [19:19:00] | Psofa: | fuck it ill leave it as it is |
| [19:19:00] | Psofa: | :D |
| [19:20:00] | laga: | why did you waste our time then if you're just lazy? |
| [19:20:00] | laga: | umm, never mind... |
| [19:24:00] | _willcooke_: | anyone know if dvb-radio is likely to make an appearance in myth? |
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| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | we look forward to your patches, _willcooke_ |
| [19:30:00] | _willcooke_: | Beirdo, Ha! You'll have a TV chip in your brain before that happens! ;) |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | _willcooke_, good thing he had that accident the other day, involving a pvr 150, paperclip, two rubber bands and a trip to the hospital. So we can expect your patches soon? |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehhehe |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I got a bitchy nasty headache, I'm going home and to bed |
| [19:31:00] | _willcooke_: | :) I'd better buy C++ for dummies |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | have a better evening then, Mr. Beirdo. |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | I'll try |
| [19:32:00] | _willcooke_: | take care Beirdo |
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| [19:48:00] | TylerGalus: | hi i'm having problems with myth.. i can't even use the watch tv function.. i've read the docs on mythtv.org and do not understand what i might have missed.. can someone help me without suggesting i rtfm? |
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| [19:49:00] | laga: | TylerGalus: we can't help you if you don't tell us more about your system, what you've done so far regarding the setup of mythtv. and you have to state your problem, of course |
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| [19:54:00] | TylerGalus: | ok i just had a kinda bad run-in sunday morning here trying to get help.. i have a gentoo install (2.6.14-r5 kernel), i emerged everything as per the docs on the mythtv site. and i get the results stored here http://pastebin.ca/34509 when i try and _watch tv_ in mythfrontend |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | TylerGalus, what's your tv card? |
| [19:55:00] | TylerGalus: | i have a hauppauge pvr150 card that's id'd correctly by ivtv with no errors on ivtv startup |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | oddness |
| [19:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Where is your LiveTV cache? |
| [19:56:00] | Krazylegz: | TylerGalus: Where is your LiveTV cache? |
| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, I'd say the NVR error and the line right under it is something to look into, as that is what is causing the ringbuffer to be empty |
| [19:56:00] | TylerGalus: | /mnt/tv (default).. i created it and gave it 0777 permissions to make sure it could be written to |
| [19:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, he already answered my question. Go fix it kormoc! :-) |
| [19:57:00] | TylerGalus: | i went through the setup multiple times and don't understand where that could be coming from |
| [19:59:00] | laga: | TylerGalus: please go back to mythtv-setup and verify that your pvr 150 is set up as a hardware encoder card |
| [20:00:00] | TylerGalus: | it used to look like this http://pastebin.ca/34164 before i set up for mpeg-4.. ok i will do that |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | mpeg4? no, that certainly isn't right |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | You set it to mpeg4? The pvr cards are mpeg2, not mpeg4 |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | you should only have to mess... |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | mpeg2 hardware encoders |
| [20:01:00] | Baylink: | LasseL, |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | darn, GreyFoxx beat me again. |
| [20:01:00] | TylerGalus: | ok i'll change it back to the other choice.. |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you owe me a drink or two. ;) |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | TylerGalus: rtjpeg isn't right either |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, you owe me :) |
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| [20:01:00] | TylerGalus: | it still was giving the same errors |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you wish. ;) |
| [20:02:00] | TylerGalus: | ok seems i'm missing something in there then? |
| [20:02:00] | ** poop disables xvmc ** | |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: well, just come over, i've got a few beers in the fridge. |
| [20:02:00] | TylerGalus: | as thoses are my 2 choices |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | TylerGalus: wait a second... |
| [20:02:00] | ** laga brings up mythfrontend ** | |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Go into mythtv-setup |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops Tyler |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | go into mythtv-setup |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | go into the 2nd option and pull up your card |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | it should NOT b e set to a Standard v4l card |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | It should be set to a mpeg2 encoder or pvr card (can't remember the exact wording) |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | heh. that's what i said before. ;) |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | me too |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | TylerGalus: We are not referring to the recording profile |
| [20:03:00] | TylerGalus: | ok i didn't pick it since it listed the 250 and 350 specifically |
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| [20:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | So if you go in there right now, what exactly is your cardtype set to ? |
| [20:04:00] | TylerGalus: | standard v4l |
| [20:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | It shouldn't be |
| [20:04:00] | TylerGalus: | i'll change it to mpeg2 |
| [20:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | k |
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| [20:05:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes back to cleaning ** | |
| [20:06:00] | TylerGalus: | well that change nixed my next question about what /dev/v4l/videox device to pick since there's only video0 as a choice now |
| [20:06:00] | laga: | TylerGalus: pick video0 then. |
| [20:08:00] | TylerGalus: | ok well i can watch tv now.. woohoo! thanks |
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| [20:10:00] | laga: | np :) |
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| [20:12:00] | TylerGalus: | wow and following your help and the real docs (installed with gentoo-wiki docs last time) it saves recording schedules! |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | so fix up the wiki |
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| [20:14:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here got a video ipod? |
| [20:14:00] | TylerGalus: | not sure what's different i'd have to go over them again... probably iirc they never mention running mythtv-setup and backend as normal non-root user |
| [20:15:00] | laga: | you shouldn't have to run either as root. |
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| [20:16:00] | TylerGalus: | probably my winblows admin mentality that setup/config usually needs to be done with admin rights... still getting used to what needs to be done as root/sudo and what doesn't |
| [20:19:00] | praet: | FunkyELF a friend has one that i helped set up |
| [20:19:00] | FunkyELF: | hrm...I'm now looking at http://myth2ipod.com/ |
| [20:20:00] | FunkyELF: | The windows computer that I connect my ipod to is slow and only has usb 1.1 |
| [20:20:00] | FunkyELF: | it takes 20 minutes to transcode a 20 minute video using videora |
| [20:20:00] | FunkyELF: | my Myth box is a 3.0GHz P4. I really want to transcode on that thing |
| [20:21:00] | praet: | nice myth box :) |
| [20:21:00] | FunkyELF: | yeah...I went overkill |
| [20:21:00] | FunkyELF: | because I was planning on dual booting and playing windows games |
| [20:21:00] | praet: | i love high end :) |
| [20:22:00] | praet: | well transcode anyway possible to the right ipod specs |
| [20:24:00] | poop: | How you can nickel and dime on something as cheap an disposable as a peecee is beyond me. |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | cause everyone has a different definition of "cheap" |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | PCs are not cheap. at least not for a student like me. and if you go high-end, it's not cheap anymore even for the rockefellas ;) |
| [20:26:00] | poop: | In the category of personal computers, the range isn't very lage. |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | poop: In your opinion and price range that might be true. It's not true for everyone |
| [20:27:00] | laga: | poop: so you call a $3000 pc cheap? ;) |
| [20:28:00] | poop: | laga: I call it stupid (and not what I'm talking about at least) |
| [20:28:00] | TylerGalus: | thanks for all the help.. recording works fine now also |
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| [20:29:00] | cosmo_: | im ripping a bunch of my dvd's right now, because have nothing better to do. I dont have myth setup yet, since I dont have the card in the mail. I eventualy plan on importing these rips into mythvideo. Is there any particular required formats or bitrates I should be aware of? |
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| [20:31:00] | FunkyELF: | can someone who knows a little perl help me out with this file? |
| [20:31:00] | FunkyELF: | http://myth2ipod.com/myth2ipod.txt |
| [20:31:00] | FunkyELF: | I need to know what my user variables need to be |
| [20:31:00] | FunkyELF: | I don't have a /myth so I'm not sure what this thing is talking about |
| [20:32:00] | lightx: | cosmo_, nah dude, mythvideo uses mplayer... |
| [20:32:00] | cosmo_: | lightx, good to know, thanks ;) |
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| [20:33:00] | lightx: | np |
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| [20:59:00] | poop: | I wonder how long pastebin entries persist. |
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| [21:03:00] | _willcooke_: | poop, mypastebin.com is supposed to last a year I think, don't know if that applies to all pastebin's though |
| [21:05:00] | Krazylegz: | From pastebin.ca: "Please note that information posted here will not expire by default. If you want it to expire, please set the expiry time above. If it is set to expire, web search engines will not be allowed to index it prior to it expiring. Items that aren't marked to expire will be indexable by search engines. Be careful with your passwords." |
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| [21:05:00] | poop: | I couldn't find that. |
| [21:05:00] | Krazylegz: | poop: It's at the bottom of http://pastebin.ca . |
| [21:06:00] | poop: | Maybe I'll have to outsource my collaboration services to Canuckistan. |
| [21:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [21:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Other pastebins: http://pastebin.ca/others.php . |
| [21:07:00] | Krazylegz: | All Canuckian. |
| [21:09:00] | _willcooke_: | anyone else having issues doing a dvb-t channel scan on the latest svn? |
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| [21:14:00] | ** Cardoe ponders if he should just return the Nvidia card and get an ATI card ** | |
| [21:15:00] | laga: | sounds even worse ;) |
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| [21:15:00] | thechris: | does mythtv work on amd64? |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes |
| [21:15:00] | thechris: | hmm |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | SVN does |
| [21:16:00] | thechris: | only svn? |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I doubt 0.18 would |
| [21:16:00] | immolo: | mythtv works fine on amd64 |
| [21:16:00] | immolo: | use 0.18.1 |
| [21:16:00] | thechris: | ok, right now it segfaults with mythtv-setup |
| [21:17:00] | thechris: | right after asking to keep/change my tuner/channels it pauses then segfaults |
| [21:18:00] | Cardoe: | laga: well this is in a PPC box. |
| [21:18:00] | Cardoe: | so ATIs work better in PPC |
| [21:18:00] | Cardoe: | but Nvidia looks better on TV |
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| [21:19:00] | thechris: | so what can be done? |
| [21:19:00] | Cardoe: | rm -rf / ? |
| [21:19:00] | Cardoe: | kill -9 -1 |
| [21:19:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [21:19:00] | thechris: | already tried those |
| [21:20:00] | thechris: | what else |
| [21:20:00] | laga: | hehehe |
| [21:22:00] | Cardoe: | thechris: run it through gdb |
| [21:22:00] | Cardoe: | see where it dies |
| [21:22:00] | thechris: | gdb not found |
| [21:25:00] | _willcooke_: | thischris, what distro? Ubuntu packages (for 64) are broken |
| [21:26:00] | thechris: | gentoo |
| [21:27:00] | Cardoe: | I think thechris has gentoo |
| [21:27:00] | Cardoe: | Cause I ignore his bug report |
| [21:27:00] | ** Cardoe looks at his assigned bugs. ** | |
| [21:27:00] | Cardoe: | yep |
| [21:27:00] | Cardoe: | there's chris' bug right there. |
| [21:27:00] | thechris: | bug report? |
| [21:28:00] | thechris: | the playback issue? |
| [21:29:00] | Cardoe: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106865 |
| [21:29:00] | Cardoe: | is that your report? |
| [21:29:00] | _willcooke_: | Would people consider this a bug, or just an annoying feature.... |
| [21:29:00] | thechris: | Cardoe: no, i haven't submitted a bug in the last year |
| [21:30:00] | _willcooke_: | When in the channel editor, you scroll down and hit enter on a channel to edit, then when finished you hit escape and the selected channel jumps back to the top |
| [21:30:00] | thechris: | i never set my password, so i never remember it |
| [21:30:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [21:30:00] | _willcooke_: | I wish it stayed put so I dont have to keep hitting down |
| [21:30:00] | Cardoe: | I thought that was you |
| [21:30:00] | Cardoe: | that didn't listen |
| [21:30:00] | thechris: | though i was about to re-re-re-re submit a genkernel bug |
| [21:31:00] | thechris: | the original was marked fixed but wasn't... now it'll never be fixed. |
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| [21:32:00] | thechris: | so is it a glibc issue? or qt? or mythtv? |
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| [21:40:00] | _willcooke_: | What's with these lines under the titles........... |
| [21:40:00] | _willcooke_: | http://img316.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3fl.png |
| [21:40:00] | _willcooke_: | ? |
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| [21:43:00] | paul_: | does anybody here understand modules? I'm trying to follow a howto and it doesn't work the way it should |
| [21:43:00] | paul_: | I'm trying to get video output on a PVR350 working |
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| [21:44:00] | paul_: | The howto includes this command "insmod saa7127 enable_output=1 output_select=0 test_image=1" |
| [21:45:00] | paul_: | That gives this error "insmod: can't read 'saa7127': No such file or directory" |
| [21:45:00] | _willcooke_: | you need to specify a path with insmod, try modprobe instead |
| [21:46:00] | paul_: | but "modinfo saa7127" gives output including this line (among other output) "filename: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10–386/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7127.ko" |
| [21:46:00] | paul_: | modprobe works (in the sense of not giving an error, not in the sense of putting video on the TV), but that's not what's in the howto |
| [21:49:00] | paul_: | "modprobe saa7127" without any options gives no response at all, no error, just another bash prompt. modprobe with the options for insmod from the howto gives a FATAL error about unknown symbol in module |
| [21:49:00] | paul_: | insmod with a full path including the .ko extension also gives an error about unknown symbol |
| [21:52:00] | _willcooke_: | you might be trying to insmod a module from a different kernel version? |
| [21:52:00] | paul_: | I'm not a Linux guru, but I think I just compiled it myself by following howto instructions |
| [21:53:00] | paul_: | I downloaded what appears to be IVTV source code and did make and make install |
| [21:53:00] | paul_: | Let me see if I can figure out version info |
| [21:55:00] | _willcooke_: | paul_, what distro? |
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| [21:55:00] | paul_: | Ubuntu |
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| [21:56:00] | paul_: | uname -a says 2.6.12-10–386 and modinfo saa7127 says vermagic 2.6.12-10–386 gcc-3.4 |
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| [21:57:00] | paul_: | I don't understand why insmod says no such file or directory |
| [21:58:00] | paul_: | I don't know if it's refering to the module or something the module is looking for |
| [21:58:00] | paul_: | I'm not sure exactly what saa7127 is. It's part of the module filename, but I don't know if it's also supposed to be a piece of physical hardware that's part of the PVR350 |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | it's refering to the module, insmod needs a full pathname I think, "man insmod" |
| [21:59:00] | _willcooke_: | I thought the pvr350 work out of the box on ubuntu? |
| [21:59:00] | paul_: | Depends what you mean by out of the box. All I see on the TV is a blank screen. |
| [22:00:00] | paul_: | Maybe there's an Ubuntu utility I should be using to configure it |
| [22:00:00] | _willcooke_: | dunno, sorry. I dont have a pvr350, keep an eye out for "jono" or "juski" I think they do, and they'll be able to tell you |
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| [22:05:00] | cosmo_: | do I need to force mysql to keep to a particular verion once Ive installed myth? |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | as long as it's under version 5, it's fine |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | well, should be. |
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| [22:07:00] | cosmo_: | cool, thanks |
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| [22:22:00] | thechris: | anyone here get mythtv working with amd64? |
| [22:22:00] | thechris: | and if so, how did you solve the issue with segfaults |
| [22:22:00] | Chutt: | there isn't an "issue with segfaults" |
| [22:23:00] | thechris: | in that case, what would cause a segfault in mythtv-setup? |
| [22:23:00] | Chutt: | i wouldn't know |
| [22:23:00] | Chutt: | get a backtrace |
| [22:24:00] | thechris: | is there a backtrace option to mythtv-setup? |
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| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | thechris: gdb |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | use gdb |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | I've been telling you this since you first came in here |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | file a bug |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | with Gentoo |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | lemme see your CFLAGS |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | and run it through gdb |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | compile with the debug USE flag |
| [22:46:00] | Cardoe: | I haven't told you anything new or different for at least a month+ now |
| [22:46:00] | Cardoe: | Surely you know how to file a bug |
| [22:46:00] | Cardoe: | http://bugs.gentoo.org |
| [22:46:00] | Cardoe: | follow the instructions |
| [22:46:00] | Cardoe: | pay special attention to the line that says "emerge --info" |
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| [22:46:00] | praet: | Cardoe you on gentoo? |
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| [22:47:00] | Cardoe: | praet: I am the Gentoo guy |
| [22:47:00] | praet: | :) |
| [22:49:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: trying to find that mysql 5 patch |
| [22:50:00] | Tommck: | does anyone know if nuvexport supports mpeg2cut on HD recordings yet? It's been a while since I've been keeping up with things |
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| [22:51:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I got a link |
| [22:52:00] | kormoc: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110100 |
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| [22:52:00] | Cardoe: | cool |
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| [22:55:00] | Tommck: | <repeatingQuestion>does anyone know if nuvexport supports mpeg2cut on HD recordings yet? It's been a while since I've been keeping up with things</repeatingQuestion> |
| [22:56:00] | Cardoe: | <repeatSilence></repeatSilence> |
| [22:56:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [22:56:00] | praet: | hehe |
| [22:57:00] | Tommck: | I am running relatively old code and I finally want to dump files for my cousin who just got back from Iraq monday... |
| [22:57:00] | Tommck: | I've hot HD recordings and can't wait for weeks worth of transcoding :) |
| [22:57:00] | Tommck: | I just want big MPG files |
| [22:57:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, have you heard any issues with myth just randomly not recording files lately? |
| [22:57:00] | Tommck: | but my version of nuvexport is teh sucks |
| [22:57:00] | ** Tommck waits for the "then fix it" line from some weenie ** | |
| [22:57:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: I haven't updated to svn for ages |
| [22:58:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: my mythtv setup is down |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I'm stable 0.18.1, and a recent update to something has caused it to stop recording the shows, it's odd. |
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| [22:59:00] | Cardoe: | odd |
| [22:59:00] | Cardoe: | haven't heard anything |
| [23:00:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I didn't expect it to be a big issue. |
| [23:02:00] | praet: | im near finished with this mythbox.. |
| [23:02:00] | praet: | ive disabled phone, and games (does anyone use these?) |
| [23:03:00] | praet: | and now i dont want to give it away |
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| [23:04:00] | thechris: | Cardoe: you have me confused with someone else. i have had this issue for less then 1 day. my cflags are apparently set by the ebuild, but were -O2 -march=k8 -pipe. i removed -march=k8 recently to see if it would fix the issue. it did not. |
| [23:04:00] | thechris: | also i have no idea how to use gdm |
| [23:04:00] | thechris: | err. gdb |
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| [23:06:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I've been googling all over, but I can't find anything about my cdrom reading slow |
| [23:06:00] | thechris: | Lancer_Koala: DMA issue? |
| [23:07:00] | Lancer_Koala: | anyone know where too look or have a quick answer? I found one thread from 2003 |
| [23:07:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: yeah, but dma is enabled |
| [23:07:00] | Lancer_Koala: | the only answer in the 2003 thread was dma, but dma is on according to hdparm |
| [23:08:00] | Lancer_Koala: | when I play a cd, its jerkey sound (skipping every few seconds) and when I rip a cd, it takes over 1 hour to rip |
| [23:08:00] | kormoc: | could be a bad drive |
| [23:08:00] | Lancer_Koala: | brand new |
| [23:08:00] | Lancer_Koala: | kormoc: I can check, but I think it works fine outside of myth |
| [23:09:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I could play cd's fine using xmms, for example |
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| [23:09:00] | thechris: | sounds like more of mythtv's excellet playback. i've had similar issues with mpeg playback in myth. |
| [23:10:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: doesn't seem like that would affect ripping though |
| [23:10:00] | Lancer_Koala: | it really acts like the drive is operating at 1x |
| [23:10:00] | Lancer_Koala: | but I see no reason for that |
| [23:10:00] | thechris: | maybe it is different |
| [23:10:00] | PITABoy: | does anyone use gentoo |
| [23:10:00] | PITABoy: | and ivtv |
| [23:10:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I guess I can keep tinkering with hdparm and dma settings |
| [23:10:00] | thechris: | with tv over the network, sometimes it just forgets what its doing |
| [23:10:00] | thechris: | PITABoy: yes |
| [23:11:00] | PITABoy: | do you have an ebuild for 0.4.1 |
| [23:11:00] | PITABoy: | or 0.5.1 or both |
| [23:11:00] | thechris: | there is an ebuild for ivtv in portage |
| [23:11:00] | thechris: | not sure on version |
| [23:11:00] | PITABoy: | not the new one |
| [23:12:00] | PITABoy: | it is 0.4.0 i would like 0.4.1 |
| [23:12:00] | thechris: | what tuner do you have? |
| [23:12:00] | PITABoy: | PVR 350 |
| [23:12:00] | thechris: | oh, well just follow the guide on www.gentoo-wiki.org |
| [23:13:00] | thechris: | its in hardware — for the pvr500. also works for 350 IIRC. |
| [23:13:00] | PITABoy: | you mean to make my own ebuild? |
| [23:13:00] | thechris: | and it has the details on how to compile the driver manually |
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| [23:14:00] | thechris: | recompiling glibc did not stop the segfaults. |
| [23:14:00] | thechris: | is it possible to configure mythtv without X? |
| [23:14:00] | immolo: | directfb |
| [23:14:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: I don't think so.. though that would be nice |
| [23:14:00] | immolo: | I only know how to do it on gentoo though |
| [23:15:00] | Lancer_Koala: | immolo: oh, really?! |
| [23:15:00] | immolo: | yes |
| [23:15:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I didn't know you could do that |
| [23:15:00] | immolo: | mythtv on the framebuffer |
| [23:15:00] | immolo: | neither did I till a month ago :P |
| [23:15:00] | thechris: | i only wonder if mythtv actually works or if the entire thing doesn't work |
| [23:15:00] | thechris: | i can't run the setup app. |
| [23:15:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I thought myth required x for all the qt menus and stuff |
| [23:15:00] | immolo: | I'm going to try it myself next year |
| [23:15:00] | ** Tommck loves the "I wonder if mythtv works at all" comments... ** | |
| [23:16:00] | Lancer_Koala: | Tommck: heh |
| [23:16:00] | immolo: | lol |
| [23:16:00] | thechris: | see, i've had issues with mythtv for playback on the network, and have switched to using VLC for media and myth for recording |
| [23:16:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: ah |
| [23:17:00] | immolo: | I have my mythtv running on a diskless box with slow dvd playing being the only issue |
| [23:17:00] | Lancer_Koala: | man, I might have to look at framebuffer myth, that would be very very cool |
| [23:17:00] | thechris: | my pvr normally doesn't have a monitor |
| [23:17:00] | immolo: | if you run gentoo check out the gentoo-wiki |
| [23:17:00] | thechris: | so a ncurses based config util would be great |
| [23:17:00] | immolo: | theirs a nice guide there |
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| [23:18:00] | Lancer_Koala: | immolo: heh.. even if you don't the gentoo docs are often helpful, I find |
| [23:18:00] | immolo: | yes I often used them in my mandrake days |
| [23:18:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I'm on debian |
| [23:18:00] | immolo: | ubuntu users also use them alot |
| [23:19:00] | immolo: | never ran debian |
| [23:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | thechris: X+VNC would do it, or an exported X display |
| [23:19:00] | immolo: | and by debian I mean the real debian not the spin offs |
| [23:20:00] | Lancer_Koala: | yeah, I do all my config stuff using a forwarded x display |
| [23:20:00] | thechris: | i couldn't get the third party unsupported packages to work in debain |
| [23:20:00] | thechris: | aka, every package |
| [23:20:00] | Lancer_Koala: | since I only have a tv on the box, the resolution makes the config screen hard to read |
| [23:20:00] | immolo: | the only two distro I would use now is ubuntu or gentoo |
| [23:20:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: ah, I think things got a lot better a few months ago for that |
| [23:21:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I would like ubuntu more if wasn't for the politics, but thats off-topic |
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| [23:21:00] | thechris: | ubuntu is ok. i really can't use gnome, and the kubuntu always broke on me |
| [23:22:00] | Lancer_Koala: | and I really want to try gentoo at some point.. its on the list :-) |
| [23:22:00] | thechris: | that and the installer for ubuntu/debian never worked right |
| [23:22:00] | immolo: | gentoo is only on your list? |
| [23:22:00] | immolo: | it should of been installed and loved by now |
| [23:22:00] | Lancer_Koala: | ubuntu seems like it works well on laptops without needing much config |
| [23:22:00] | Lancer_Koala: | immolo: heh |
| [23:23:00] | thechris: | ubuntu's install was never able to install X, or python-reportlab, or ubuntu-desktop |
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| [23:23:00] | immolo: | the one stupid thing ubuntu has done though is use gcc4 |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | and i loved that "there were problems during the install" |
| [23:24:00] | immolo: | which slows down your pc more then helps |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | maybe specify? nope... |
| [23:24:00] | cheech: | how much of a cpu load is it to cap tv to xvid/divx ? |
| [23:24:00] | cheech: | can a 1.2ghz cpu handle it ? |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | good luck with that |
| [23:25:00] | cheech: | what kind of cpu am i going to need? |
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| [23:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | cheech: a 1.2ghz machine using a software encoder could get away with recording mpeg4 video |
| [23:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it wont be an avi file if that's what you are looking for |
| [23:25:00] | thechris: | not sure. i've never had good luck with divx encoding |
| [23:25:00] | Lancer_Koala: | grr.. this is rediculous.. some post complaining that cd ripping is slow and it takes a whole 10 minutes per disk.. ya, it takes me 70 minutes currently |
| [23:25:00] | cheech: | i have a 64mb ati aiw. 9700 pro ot something |
| [23:26:00] | cheech: | basically, i'm trying to setup a way i can record tv, or cap it to a file... and have my xbox play it through xbmc . |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | cheech: The All in wonders wont work with myth last I saw |
| [23:26:00] | thechris: | Lancer_Koala: oh, try this: "segmentation fault" |
| [23:26:00] | cheech: | oh, poop. |
| [23:26:00] | cheech: | guess i'm sol then |
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| [23:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | not unless you buy a new tuner |
| [23:27:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: what about segfault am I trying? |
| [23:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could get a cheap software card or splurge the ~$60USD on a PVR150 and get onboard hardware encoding allow capturing to use basically 0% cpu |
| [23:27:00] | thechris: | no, i was just venting |
| [23:27:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: I'd rather not *try* to seg fault |
| [23:27:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: ah, heh |
| [23:28:00] | thechris: | i just want this thing to work. |
| [23:28:00] | thechris: | but that is not enough |
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| [23:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | have you tried getting a backtrace yet ? |
| [23:28:00] | Lancer_Koala: | yeah, i spent 6 months trying to get my first attempt at myth to work and it wound up being a bad hd controller that kept locking up |
| [23:29:00] | Juski: | 6 months? now that's what I call dedication |
| [23:29:00] | Lancer_Koala: | very agrivating because there were no logs or anything, just a total freeze |
| [23:29:00] | thechris: | Dec 21 11:28:55 phaselock mythtv-setup[21056]: segfault at 00002aaa80bfcd08 rip 00002aaaada4238e rsp 00007fffffdb26e0 error 4 |
| [23:29:00] | Lancer_Koala: | Juski: heh.. ya off and on |
| [23:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | That is not a backtrace |
| [23:29:00] | Lancer_Koala: | Juski: it worked just enough to be tantalizing |
| [23:29:00] | thechris: | its as close a i can get |
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| [23:29:00] | ** GreyFoxx spent 2 hours on his first one with a software card years ago ** | |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | even so.. yer typical user is like "this sucks.. wah! I want my mythtv NOW!" |
| [23:30:00] | psofa: | has anyone here used dvr with lirc? |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | thechris: use gdb, and if you don't have it, install it |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | psofa: vdr you mean? |
| [23:30:00] | psofa: | video disk recorder |
| [23:30:00] | psofa: | its sth similar to mythtv |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | except nobody is developing it anymore iirc |
| [23:31:00] | psofa: | i dont care :D it does what i want it to |
| [23:31:00] | thechris: | just type: gdb mythtv-setup? |
| [23:31:00] | Tommck: | does anyone know of a way to get my HD recordings (from an HD3000) into MPEG format without transcoding? (i.e. unwrapping the nuv file) |
| [23:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | thechris: Try reading the troubleshooting section of the mythtv.org docs |
| [23:33:00] | thechris: | any idea what error4 is? |
| [23:34:00] | Lancer_Koala: | Juski: this sucks, I want my mythtv now.. err.. I mean.. I have a problem.. :-) |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | psofa, I really doubt anyone in myth's channel uses it |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | Lancer_Koala, dmesg shows anything? |
| [23:34:00] | psofa: | well mythtv people are the most propable to have used it |
| [23:34:00] | psofa: | :( |
| [23:36:00] | Lancer_Koala: | kormoc: hmm.. yes, in fact it does.. only one error that I don't think is related, but it'd be a good start |
| [23:36:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I'll see where it leads |
| [23:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd say people in #vdr are more likely |
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| [23:38:00] | praet: | Lancer_Koala did you get a backtrace (run mythfrontened from a terminal) |
| [23:38:00] | praet: | invoke the crash |
| [23:40:00] | Lancer_Koala: | praet: maybe you mean to ask thechris? I'm not having crashes, just very slow cd reads |
| [23:40:00] | foobum: | does anyone use VLC for their video/dvd playback? |
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| [23:42:00] | thechris: | mythfrontend runs just fine |
| [23:42:00] | thechris: | well, i can't view tv or connect to a backend |
| [23:42:00] | thechris: | but it doens't segfault |
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| [23:43:00] | thechris: | foobum: i only use VLC for video playback. mythtv's playback is a bit flakey on my system |
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| [23:43:00] | foobum: | yeah.. Internal generally makes a mess of my dvd rips |
| [23:43:00] | foobum: | mplayer doesn't do menus |
| [23:44:00] | foobum: | and xine has some strange audio issues for me – i can choose working dts or ac3 pass through but not both |
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| [23:45:00] | foobum: | i spent a few hours trying to put menu support into Internal, made some progress and then gave up |
| [23:45:00] | thechris: | i may end up learning SQL and just making my own mpeg recording scheduler |
| [23:45:00] | foobum: | VLC looks like it does pretty much eveything.. |
| [23:45:00] | thechris: | easier then trying to fight with mythtv and nuv files |
| [23:45:00] | thechris: | but i do like mythweb |
| [23:46:00] | ** eiggirC messes with tuning ** | |
| [23:46:00] | eiggirC: | I recorded an hour of high kwality snow from one channel |
| [23:46:00] | eiggirC: | YAY! digital snow! |
| [23:46:00] | thechris: | btw, how do i set up the database right |
| [23:46:00] | thechris: | is it already set up |
| [23:47:00] | thechris: | or do i set the user to root and use the password i provided? |
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| [23:48:00] | praet: | mysql -u root -p |
| [23:49:00] | thechris: | ok, it seems mythbackend won't run either |
| [23:49:00] | thechris: | of course it tells me to run setup... |
| [23:51:00] | thechris: | if only mythweb wasn't so nice |
| [23:51:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo, you around? |
| [23:52:00] | rsdvd (n=rsdvd@rsdvd.plus.com) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
| [23:52:00] | Tommck: | xris? |
| [23:53:00] | xris: | ? |
| [23:53:00] | Tommck: | is nuvexport (or mpeg2cut) still broken when dealing with HD3000 recordings? |
| [23:53:00] | Tommck: | oh... and hello... long time no chat |
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| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | thechris, you need to setup the database and then run mythsetup, set it up and then the backend will run. You can not run the frontend without a backend first. |
| [23:56:00] | Tommck: | xris – did you get that question? |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | I assume so. |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | haven't tested with my air2pc in awhile, but it was borked last time I tried. |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | need a TS -> PS converter |
| [23:57:00] | Tommck: | there aren't any? |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | somewhere. nothing I could find easily installable via RPM, so I gave up for awhile. |
| [23:57:00] | Tommck: | ahh... |
| [23:58:00] | Tommck: | I recorded a bunch of shows in HD and need to get them to my cousin for whom I recorded them (he was in Iraq for 6 months). He leaves tomorrow at 7am... any suggestions? |
| [23:58:00] | Tommck: | he at least needs to view them on a windows PC |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | lots of dvds? |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | protable usb harddrive? |
| [23:59:00] | Tommck: | I have a portable USB drive.. |
| [23:59:00] | Tommck: | how can I convert a crapload of HD recordings into something windows viewable in a few hours? |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | the recordings are mpeg-2 arn't they? |
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