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Thursday, December 15th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] feld: kormoc: didnt know that.
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[00:00:00] kormoc: amd's on the other hand, when they overheat, they just power down.
[00:00:00] Beirdo: yup
[00:00:00] Beirdo: annoying :
[00:00:00] abarbaccia: hey all – whats the best gui tool for archiving shows to DVD
[00:00:00] kormoc: abarbaccia, nuvexport + k3b?
[00:00:00] Beirdo: ?? gui??
[00:00:00] abarbaccia: something integrated into mythtv
[00:00:00] abarbaccia: where it looks nice
[00:01:00] Beirdo: what kinda UNIX geek needs GUI? :)
[00:01:00] abarbaccia: what if its for a family member whos not a unix geek?
[00:01:00] kormoc: abarbaccia, there is nothing, unless you submit some wonderful patches...
[00:01:00] Beirdo: Hmmm
[00:01:00] Beirdo: well, that's another story
[00:01:00] abarbaccia: doesn't knoppmyth have something in it already
[00:01:00] kormoc: family members must become unix geeks to be family members!
[00:01:00] kormoc: not intigrated into myth, nope
[00:01:00] Beirdo: yeah, disown them
[00:01:00] abarbaccia: HA!
[00:01:00] abarbaccia: awesome solution
[00:01:00] abarbaccia: thanks guys
[00:01:00] Dibblah: If they're a Windows geek, I'd suggest NeroVision Express...
[00:02:00] Beirdo: ah yes
[00:02:00] Beirdo: there's always Windows for a GUI
[00:02:00] Beirdo: forgot about that
[00:02:00] Dibblah: It's pretty much drag'n'drip.
[00:02:00] Beirdo: or a Mac
[00:02:00] kormoc: so's k3b, once it's out of myth via nuvexport
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[00:02:00] abarbaccia: so you gotta use nuvexport 1st
[00:03:00] Beirdo: if you use a PVR250, you may not need nuvexport at all
[00:03:00] Beirdo: if you record at the right resolution, etc
[00:03:00] kormoc: other then to cut commericals and to get it named good?
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[00:04:00] Dibblah: Nah, it doesn't do TS.
[00:04:00] Beirdo: what doesn't?
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[00:04:00] Dibblah: The Windows thing.
[00:04:00] abarbaccia: what about this nuv2disc ?
[00:04:00] Beirdo: ask jams :)
[00:04:00] Beirdo: good timing, jams
[00:05:00] jams: hmm?
[00:06:00] Beirdo: abarbaccia was asking about nuv2disc :)
[00:06:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:06:00] abarbaccia: jams, what do you think about nuv2disc besude "the developer is a pure mastermind"
[00:06:00] Beirdo: but of course he is
[00:06:00] Beirdo: hehe
[00:06:00] praet: wow thats smart to underclock when in trouble. what does the p4 do
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[00:07:00] jams: oh I use it all the time
[00:07:00] jams: does everything I want it todo
[00:07:00] abarbaccia: all i want is – select recordings and burn to DVD
[00:07:00] abarbaccia: with a menu
[00:08:00] jams: yes nuv2disc will do that
[00:08:00] abarbaccia: can it do that?
[00:08:00] simcop2387: kicka** i've got my new gentoo box setup, now to get xorg-x11 setup for the 3dfx voodoo5!
[00:08:00] abarbaccia: great – and installing on ubuntu / debian – are the .debs?
[00:08:00] jams: heh I highly doubt it
[00:08:00] abarbaccia: alright
[00:09:00] jams: there were .debs for debian sid (about a year ago)
[00:09:00] jams: but no idea if they work
[00:09:00] abarbaccia: well, over break (3 days) i'm ordering parts for this new box
[00:09:00] feld: anyone here ever use Gnomebaker? I like it better than K3B. A billion times more lightweight, too.
[00:09:00] simcop2387: abarbaccia: there exists nothign to do that, yet, i've been working on learning how to write a plugin to do that
[00:09:00] abarbaccia: feld, I use it occasionally
[00:09:00] abarbaccia: simcop2387, jams wrote a plugin – its just not QT
[00:09:00] simcop2387: abarbaccia: oh the mythweb one?
[00:10:00] jams: no it's not that stupid mythburn
[00:10:00] simcop2387: jams: link?
[00:10:00] jams: extras.mythtvtalk.com
[00:10:00] praet: http://extras.mythtvtalk.com/screens/index.html
[00:10:00] simcop2387: i'll check it out and play with it (possibly improve it)
[00:10:00] praet: looks pretty slick too
[00:10:00] jams: abarbaccia- are you using gcc4?
[00:11:00] abarbaccia: hold on – lemme check
[00:11:00] abarbaccia: yep
[00:11:00] jams: I know for a fact eboxy is not going to compile without some code changes
[00:12:00] abarbaccia: crapola
[00:12:00] jams: been working on a gcc4 version but just haven't finished it
[00:12:00] abarbaccia: what code changes are required – and what is eboxy?
[00:13:00] jams: eboxy is the framework or GUI
[00:13:00] abarbaccia: gotcha – what does mythtv use?
[00:13:00] jams: qt
[00:13:00] abarbaccia: how feasable is it to rewite it for QT?
[00:14:00] jams: it's doable, but I don't have the skills for it
[00:14:00] jams: nor do I want to learn them
[00:14:00] simcop2387: grr gotta install links
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[00:15:00] simcop2387: jams: i might do that for you then this xmas
[00:15:00] jams: simcop2387- I will be around
[00:15:00] simcop2387: if it doesn't already support it i'll have it possible to use it in the playlist feature of the recordings (burn playlist to dvd)
[00:15:00] ** NightMonkey feels the xmas cheer fill the room **
[00:16:00] simcop2387: jams: also do you cut out commercials or just ignore them in the dvdauthor xml file?
[00:16:00] abarbaccia: simcop2387, jams i would like to help in any way possible – i'm decent with c/C++
[00:16:00] jams: well commerical cut is available but it can produce bad files
[00:16:00] abarbaccia: jams, clairfy "bad" files
[00:17:00] jams: out of sync audio/video
[00:17:00] simcop2387: jams: i've got a sample dvdauthor xml that'll let you skip them without cutting them out and be able to disable it too
[00:17:00] abarbaccia: is that from nuvexport
[00:17:00] simcop2387: i spent a week getting that working correctly
[00:17:00] jams: no, but it uses the same thing that nuvexport does
[00:17:00] abarbaccia: gotcha
[00:18:00] abarbaccia: it might be nicer to use simcop2387 's version because then the end user doesn't have to wait for a transcode to take place before they get the disc
[00:18:00] jams: simcop2387- is that taking the cutlist and mark them as chapters
[00:18:00] simcop2387: jams: marking them as cells, then you can use small scripts pre and post cell to skip over the commercials if a register is set, which means the menu can have a button to change that register and you can then enable and disable the commercials
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[00:19:00] praet: clever
[00:19:00] simcop2387: praet: yea the dvdauthor list helped with that
[00:19:00] jams: cool
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[00:19:00] simcop2387: it works excelently
[00:19:00] jams: might look into that
[00:19:00] abarbaccia: very nice – should we start a wiki page – it would be nice if we could pump this out before feb.
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[00:21:00] no_IR_Remote: Hi
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[00:21:00] simcop2387: ok somethings weird with that kernel
[00:22:00] simcop2387: if you get really clever you can have it skip the commercials only once so that you can rewind over them if detection was wrong
[00:22:00] no_IR_Remote: Question re infrared remote not working (Fedoracore 4)
[00:22:00] abarbaccia: no_IR_Remote, just ask
[00:23:00] NightMonkey: Hey, just a random tip: using eAccelerator 0.9.3 to speed up PHP helps speed mythweb quite a bit.
[00:23:00] abarbaccia: simcop2387, have you programmed QT before?
[00:23:00] kormoc: praet, the p4 underclocks when in trouble, amd just powers down.
[00:24:00] praet: oh thanks for the fix kormoc
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[00:24:00] no_IR_Remote: After complete reinstall of Fedora, and re-install of Mythtv – the IR does not work (new to Linux, new to MythTv)
[00:24:00] feld: NightMonkey: eAccelerator?
[00:24:00] abarbaccia: no_IR_Remote, what remote, what drivers did you install?
[00:24:00] praet: no_IR_Remote whats your remote hardware (ie: pvr-250?)
[00:24:00] feld: * dev-php/eaccelerator
[00:24:00] NightMonkey: feld: http://www.eaccelerator.net/
[00:25:00] feld: * dev-php4/eaccelerator
[00:25:00] no_IR_Remote: ivtv
[00:25:00] feld: How the hell did portage mess that one up?
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[00:25:00] feld: it has two entries for eaccelerator
[00:25:00] no_IR_Remote: PVR-250
[00:25:00] abarbaccia: did you install lirc?
[00:25:00] NightMonkey: feld: Its for the new php layout – the dev-php4 version.
[00:25:00] no_IR_Remote: yes – on the Lirc
[00:25:00] abarbaccia: does irw work?
[00:26:00] no_IR_Remote: irw ?
[00:26:00] praet: no_IR_Remote check your lirc settings and run the steps here: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#lirc
[00:26:00] praet: iirw lets you check to see if the remote is working.. $ /usr/bin/irw
[00:26:00] NightMonkey: feld: dev-php4 -> for the dev-lang/php style. dev-php -> for the old dev-php/php style.
[00:27:00] praet: ive banged my head against a wall to find out that the batteries were dead :P
[00:27:00] feld: NightMonkey: ok so i need the php4 version. goody.
[00:27:00] feld: now anything i need to do to "make it work"?
[00:27:00] no_IR_Remote: re iirw – do I run this in the /usr/bin/irw dir?
[00:27:00] NightMonkey: feld: The new way allows slotted installs of PHP, to have PHP 4 and PHP 5 live on the same box, among other things.
[00:27:00] praet: no_IR_Remote open up a terminal, then type in /usr/bin/irw
[00:28:00] praet: then smash teh remote keys and see if the keycodes get outputted to the terminal
[00:28:00] no_IR_Remote: will do – thanks, will also try the wilsonnet site again – thanks
[00:29:00] NightMonkey: feld: Not much. It automagically "compiles" every php page. You might want to play with the eaccelerator.ini file to taste, and run the frontend eaccelerator.php via a browser. You should password protect it, too.
[00:29:00] praet: is there a preference for knoppmyth over fedora?
[00:29:00] no_IR_Remote: re /usr/bin/irw – result=connection refused
[00:30:00] NightMonkey: feld: And it handled my other PHP apps that live on the box, too, so everything gets a boost.
[00:30:00] no_IR_Remote: will run the steps at wilsonnet.com and be back
[00:30:00] praet: no_IR_Remote try restarting lirc /sbin/service lircd restart
[00:31:00] NightMonkey: feld: It doesn't, however, speed up database queries (naturally), so your DB is still a bottleneck.
[00:31:00] NightMonkey: feld: For me, the program listings are a bit snappier.
[00:31:00] praet: no_IR_Remote if lircd keeps dropping out then you may need to go over the lircd.conf again
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[00:32:00] NightMonkey: feld: I also use mod_gzip to compress the server->browser traffic. That appears to help, too, but it does put an extra load on both ends of the conversation.
[00:33:00] NightMonkey: feld: extra CPU load, that is.
[00:33:00] no_IR_Remote: lircd restart result: Stop – Failed, Start – OK, then reran irw, result = nothing displayed, I assume it is on. I'll go into mythtv and try
[00:33:00] simcop2387: jams: looks nice, needs some cleanup on the dvd menu's i've got a mockup on my other computer (which isn't up right now) of what i wanted to do
[00:34:00] praet: NightMonkey how many users are you hosting mythweb for?
[00:34:00] jams: simcop2387- send it over I would love to see what you had in mind
[00:34:00] NightMonkey: praet: Two. :)
[00:34:00] feld: NightMonkey: nice it does seem to be quicker
[00:34:00] no_IR_Remote: I'm doing a find on lircd.conf now to see if I have one
[00:34:00] praet: still worth it i bet :)
[00:34:00] feld: NightMonkey: is there a way to password protect mythweb?
[00:35:00] NightMonkey: feld: Cool!
[00:35:00] praet: no_IR_Remote should be in /etc/lircd.conf
[00:35:00] NightMonkey: feld: I use htaccess/htpasswd.
[00:35:00] no_IR_Remote: still "finding"
[00:35:00] simcop2387: jams, k i've got to get my other computer hooked up and setup
[00:35:00] NightMonkey: feld: Make sure you do that, or, if it is available on the Internet, you'll end up in Google. You don't want mythweb to end up in Google. ;)
[00:35:00] no_IR_Remote: I used find / – name lircd.conf – nothing retunred – I'll manually look in /etc
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[00:37:00] no_IR_Remote: yes, it is in /etc
[00:37:00] feld: NightMonkey: i just login to my router and enable the port forwarding when i want access... but i'd rather password protect it and always make it available
[00:38:00] feld: is htaccess/htpasswd something thats standard and available? do i just need to read how to enable it or something? a setting in my vhost file for mythweb?
[00:39:00] NightMonkey: "Hmm...I don't have the skratch to spend on cable/sat. I'll just set feld's myth box to record for me, and then I'll tell all my dorm-mates to watch feld's streams."
[00:39:00] NightMonkey: feld: Yes. It is part of Apache. One sec, I get the link.
[00:40:00] feld: NightMonkey: nevermind
[00:40:00] NightMonkey: feld: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/auth.html (if you're running Apache 2.0)
[00:41:00] feld: NightMonkey: i found a tutorial
[00:41:00] feld: thx though :)
[00:41:00] feld: NightMonkey: lol btw you wouldnt get much of a stream because my upload is CRAP. 384k :(
[00:41:00] NightMonkey: feld: No sweat. The canonical Apache docs are good to check, too. Some tutorials gloss over too much.
[00:41:00] feld: i see :)
[00:41:00] no_IR_Remote: I have looked at the lircd.conf file, but am clueless as to what to do next.
[00:42:00] NightMonkey: feld: And with the Apache docs, You'll Really Know (tm).
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[00:43:00] NightMonkey: feld: Just FYI, what you want to do is basically what I do, and it works great.
[00:44:00] praet: no_IR_Remote it should look like http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircd-g3.conf.txt
[00:45:00] praet: no_IR_Remote have you tried irw again. type some stuff into the remote
[00:46:00] no_IR_Remote: will try
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[00:50:00] no_IR_Remote: Yes my lircd-conf file is exactly like the one at wilsonnet.....lircd-g3.conf.txt
[00:51:00] no_IR_Remote: trying /usr/bin/irw now returne connection refused
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[00:52:00] no_IR_Remote: If I try to re-install all the ivtv files – do I first need to remove anything – or is it OK to re-install over top of them?
[00:53:00] no_IR_Remote: praet – when you say "type some stuff..." should I see the results of what I press on the remote after the irw command?
[00:54:00] praet: right
[00:54:00] praet: run irw.. then as you press remote heys, they pop up on the terminal
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[00:55:00] no_IR_Remote: paraet – Nothing displays in the terminal window after I type irw
[00:56:00] no_IR_Remote: this is after a lirc restart
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[00:57:00] praet: does it return you to the prompt or is it that nothing appears when ou type?
[00:58:00] no_IR_Remote: I'm returned to the prompt
[00:58:00] ** poop eyes prebuffering pauses **
[00:59:00] poop: I smite thee!
[00:59:00] poop: *smite* *smite*
[01:02:00] praet: # /sbin/service lircd status
[01:02:00] praet: no_IR_Remote run that after starting lircd
[01:02:00] no_IR_Remote: ok – will do...
[01:03:00] no_IR_Remote: returned "... is running"
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[01:04:00] no_IR_Remote: but still when I press keys on remote – nothing displays in terminal?
[01:04:00] praet: only irw will monitor any changes
[01:05:00] no_IR_Remote: right – still same result
[01:06:00] no_IR_Remote: How about a complete ivtv reinstall?
[01:06:00] praet: ivtv is the video driver
[01:06:00] praet: you could reinstall lirc
[01:07:00] praet: apt-get uninstall lirc
[01:07:00] no_IR_Remote: Thanks – will do...
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[01:08:00] praet: i would go through the userguide again and post your results here
[01:09:00] no_IR_Remote: I'm using yum, do I do a yum remove lirc?
[01:10:00] tanq: i'm still stuck on pvr 150 model 1045
[01:10:00] tanq: i had the 1062 working but returned it since it didnt have the remot
[01:10:00] tanq: the 1045 doesnt show anything for me :/
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[01:12:00] no_IR_Remote: praet – thanks for all your help – I'll try the reinstall and return – bye
[01:12:00] praet: good luck
[01:12:00] no_IR_Remote: thanks
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[01:15:00] praet: tanq what ivtv and kernel are you on?
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[01:32:00] Bonkers: is it possible to have the backend on a dynamic IP and use a dyndns hostname?
[01:32:00] Bonkers: it doesn't seem to be working here for some reason
[01:32:00] Bonkers: I just put the hostname in the backend IP boxes
[01:32:00] Bonkers: the mysql end of things is fine, but backend connection isn't working
[01:33:00] tanq: praet: kernel 2.6.14 and 0.4.0 of ivtv
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[01:48:00] feld: tanq: u have ivtv and lirc working on 2.6.14?
[01:48:00] feld: i heard there were issues... u using vanilla?
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[01:49:00] fact: hi... when will do you realease a version with qt 4 support???
[01:50:00] GreyFoxx: not in the immediate future
[01:50:00] feld: from what i read in Gentoo bugzilla the proglem is QT
[01:50:00] feld: *problem
[01:50:00] Chutt: uh
[01:50:00] feld: its not building compatibility for qt3
[01:50:00] Chutt: applications need to be rewritten to use qt4
[01:50:00] GreyFoxx: It requires major rewrites
[01:50:00] Chutt: it is not backwards compatible.
[01:51:00] Chutt: it has a _porting_ layer, but that's not the same thing.
[01:51:00] feld: Chutt: i see
[01:52:00] fact: Lol exacly the same problem
[01:52:00] fact: LOL
[01:52:00] fact: there isn't anyway to have both of them?
[01:53:00] Chutt: easily.
[01:53:00] Chutt: absolutely nothing preventing both from being installed at the same time.
[01:54:00] fact: hummm I gona try installing both qt
[01:54:00] kormoc: I beleive gentoo defaults to qt4 in a different slot then qt3 anyway, so it shouldn't be an issue.
[01:55:00] rjune: I thought most distros installed qt into /usr/lib/qt-VERSION
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[01:56:00] kormoc: rjune, indeed, but with gentoo, if a package is kept in the same slot, version 3 will uninstall version 2, for example, so they have different slots so both can be installed at the same time.
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[02:33:00] The_Jaymz: hi
[02:33:00] flindet: hi
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[02:34:00] The_Jaymz: there're always lots of people here, but never much going on
[02:35:00] ** NightMonkey runsaroundrunsaroundrunsaround **
[02:35:00] The_Jaymz: hehe
[02:35:00] The_Jaymz: anyone using a SATA dvd burner with myth?
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[02:40:00] Klatuu: not I
[02:40:00] unkn0wn2u: anyone know if I can run mtd on a seperate computer than my frontend
[02:42:00] poop: Having fought the long, hard struggle to make spdif work already, boy, I just can't wait to do it again for no apparent reason.
[02:42:00] poop: Also, I hate linux.
[02:42:00] poop: Dear Linux, DIEZ
[02:43:00] unkn0wn2u: poop that is a very simple name
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[03:26:00] Klowner: hrmm, seems gentoo has qt4 by default now
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[03:42:00] Cardoe: the problem with Gentoo's ebuild is simple
[03:42:00] Cardoe: the make files have QMAKE=qmake
[03:42:00] Cardoe: so it uses the PATH searching to pick which qmake you want.
[03:42:00] Cardoe: the QT4 ebuild automatically has QT4's qmake in the PATH first
[03:42:00] Cardoe: I just haven't had time to fix it.
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[03:43:00] Cardoe: to grep all the files to set /usr/qt/3/bin/qmake
[03:43:00] Cardoe: rather then QMAKE=qmake
[03:43:00] Cardoe: because right now when you install QT4
[03:43:00] Cardoe: then the first qmake that gets used is /usr/qt/4/bin/qmake
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[03:44:00] Cardoe: and it will continue to be screwed up until finals are done.
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[03:45:00] Klowner: ah
[03:45:00] sphing: Cardoe: i feel your pain... i just finished mine
[03:46:00] Klowner: I got 0.18.1 to compile on debian, but it fails with this 'no useable video output compiled' or somesuch
[03:46:00] Cardoe: because any free time I have is dedicated to X and other more important bugs.
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[03:51:00] Servo888: How do I get to the mythtv web interface?
[03:51:00] Klowner: Servo888: put the mythweb thing on a webserver, it's just a big heap of php scripts
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[03:51:00] Servo888: oh... that's no fun.
[03:51:00] Klowner: it's not bad
[03:52:00] Klowner: lighttpd wasn't hard to set up
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[03:52:00] cesman: hello everyone
[03:52:00] NightMonkey: I solved the QT4 problem by masking QT4 :D.
[03:52:00] cesman: is anyone running SVN with multiple backends?
[03:53:00] Servo888: Also another question – is there a way to disable 24/7 recording during 'watch tv'? For my needs I see no reason to do this...
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[03:54:00] Klowner: gah, I have to reemerge qt3 with mysql, but it's freaking about a file that's not in the manifest
[03:54:00] Bonkers: emerge sync
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[03:55:00] jams: Servo888- no
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[03:58:00] Klowner: ap, got it
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[04:00:00] NightMonkey: OK, I'm not running SVN, but would like to know if it is possible to use MythGallery with a album set generated by "The Gallery", without tweaking?
[04:01:00] NightMonkey: (with what's in SVN, that is)
[04:01:00] NightMonkey: I'm just curious. :)
[04:02:00] banyan: Has anyone had trouble using avidemux2 on nuv files with the audio and the video getting all out of whack?
[04:03:00] banyan: I checked the original nuv file and the sync problem does not occur in mplayer.
[04:03:00] NightMonkey: banyan: You editing "real" nuv files, or mpegs masquerading as nuv files (like from a PVR-x50 card)?
[04:04:00] banyan: the latter.
[04:05:00] NightMonkey: banyan: What version of avidemux2?
[04:05:00] banyan: 2.0.42.
[04:06:00] NightMonkey: banyan: I've seen avidemux2 *playback* get out of sync – but the final output plays fine. The avidemux2 player seems a bit glitchy, at times.
[04:06:00] NightMonkey: banyan: Are you transcoding the audio or video? Or just a "cut and copy" session?
[04:07:00] banyan: Unfortunately, I sliced up a movie to remove commercials and the lag is present in the output files as well.
[04:07:00] NightMonkey: banyan: Are you transcoding/remuxing?
[04:07:00] banyan: I recode the audio to AVI but leave the video to copy.
[04:08:00] banyan: I just save-as right out of avidemux2.
[04:08:00] banyan: which works sometimes and is hella quick.
[04:09:00] NightMonkey: banyan: Hmm... When I've done it (before I realized my DVD player handles mp2 audio), I transoded audio to AC3 without that problem. Did you "Scan audio stream" when prompted?
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[04:11:00] banyan: I did.
[04:12:00] banyan: I even rmed the idx and rebuilt it.
[04:12:00] banyan: which did nothing.
[04:12:00] NightMonkey: banyan: Are you doing this to prepare a DVD?
[04:13:00] banyan: And it screws up around the same place in the movie too.
[04:13:00] banyan: I am.
[04:13:00] NightMonkey: Since you have a PVR-x50, check my guide: https://www.ilikelinux.com/howto/pvr3502dvd
[04:13:00] NightMonkey: banyan: See if there's any hints there.
[04:16:00] banyan: Why doesn't mplayer need an index but avidemux does? and mplayer works but avidemux2 doesn't. heh
[04:17:00] riksta: NightMonkey: does that work for dvb too
[04:17:00] banyan: Isn't there a way to get mplayer to save audio and/or video?
[04:17:00] NightMonkey: riksta: Dunno. I don't use DVB.
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[04:19:00] NightMonkey: banyan: Mplayer has mencoder, but, AFAIK, not a video editor, per se.
[04:19:00] NightMonkey: banyan: But, I've not really looked for any 3rd-party stuffs – might exist.
[04:20:00] banyan: I can get mplayer to re-wav mp3s.
[04:21:00] NightMonkey: banyan: Yes. That's mencoder, IIRC.
[04:22:00] NightMonkey: banyan: But, it's not so easy to cut parts out of a stream, and have a GUI to transcoding options – hence, avidemux2. :)
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[04:24:00] banyan: There's some funky thing to command-line save the mpeg video stream separate from the audio.
[04:25:00] banyan: mpeg2desc I believe.
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[04:36:00] NightMonkey: riksta: It should work if the original file is MPEG2/MP2.
[04:36:00] riksta: yeah exactly
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[04:58:00] |Slurpee|: yo
[04:58:00] |Slurpee|: someone help me
[04:58:00] ** Beirdo calls a shrink **
[04:58:00] ** Klowner loads the shotgun **
[04:58:00] |Slurpee|: i need to finish picking hardware
[04:59:00] |Slurpee|: want to see what ive picked out so far ?
[04:59:00] Beirdo: meh
[04:59:00] banyan: So, which is the command that allows you to cut from a specific frame and save the file?
[04:59:00] kormoc: get a pvr and a nvidia card and be happy
[05:00:00] banyan: Slurpee, I asked my workmates that today earlier and they ran away. Of course I was picking my nose at the time.
[05:01:00] banyan: imho, hauppauge pvr350 and don't bother hooking your video card up to your tv.
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[05:05:00] kormoc: 350 if you're gonna do tv out, 150 if you're not
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[05:10:00] NightMonkey: Hey, hey. According to Myth's Trac, only 22 minor bugs left on the 0.19 roadmap. Doesn't mean anything, of course. ;)
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[05:14:00] dgilmore: anyone running svn?
[05:14:00] kormoc: nope, not a soul.
[05:15:00] dgilmore: damn i must be the only one
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[05:15:00] kormoc: no, just zombies, and all the bugs they report have things to do with wanting more brains.
[05:16:00] dgilmore: im having an issue where shows i watch get recorded and show up in mythweb. but if i explicetly record something im unable to watch as i get a 0 byte file
[05:16:00] kormoc: did you check the bug list and see if it's a known issue?
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[05:17:00] dgilmore: kormoc: i didnt check the bug list but theres been no mention of it on the mailing list
[05:17:00] kormoc: dgilmore, the bug list would be the place to check
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[05:18:00] kormoc: and keep in mind, svn breaks often.
[05:20:00] dgilmore: kormoc: yeah i only switched to it because stable stopped recording also. i probably have something messsed up
[05:21:00] Chutt: so, the stable version stopped recording, so you switched to svn. svn does the same thing, and you wonder if it's a bug in svn?
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[05:21:00] dgilmore: bugzilla is down
[05:21:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[05:21:00] kormoc: given myth doesn't use bugzilla, I'd agree with you...
[05:21:00] Chutt: you're on the svn commits list, right?
[05:21:00] dgilmore: Chutt: svn records
[05:22:00] Chutt: you _just_ said it didn't.
[05:22:00] dgilmore: mythtv.info links to a bugzilla
[05:22:00] Chutt: yeah, because mythtv.info is the website with all the accurate information on it.
[05:22:00] kormoc: mythtv.info isn't myth's website...
[05:22:00] dgilmore: if i just watch something it records and i can download it via mythweb
[05:22:00] Chutt: that's live tv
[05:23:00] Chutt: not scheduled recordings
[05:23:00] Chutt: there's a difference.
[05:23:00] dgilmore: ya
[05:23:00] Chutt: so, again, the stable version stopped recording, so you switched to svn. svn does the same thing, and you wonder if it's a bug in svn?
[05:23:00] Chutt: what exactly is the logic in that?
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[05:24:00] dgilmore: the logic is i can capture from /dev/video0 i can watch tv, things broke when i updated to the latest rpms
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[05:25:00] Chutt: you are describing the same issue for both the stable version and svn.
[05:25:00] dgilmore: the new feature / annoyance of recording every show watched live works
[05:26:00] Chutt: no?
[05:26:00] dgilmore: so myth can capture its just messing up scheduled recordings
[05:26:00] dgilmore: stable i could watch tv fine
[05:26:00] Chutt: it's like pulling teeth sometimes.
[05:26:00] Chutt: i don't care if you can watch live.
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[05:26:00] dgilmore: i dont either
[05:27:00] Chutt: you're asking about scheduled recordings, what the hell does live have to do with it?
[05:27:00] Chutt: then why do you keep bringing it up?
[05:27:00] dgilmore: i guess im not making myself clear
[05:27:00] Chutt: dgilmore kormoc: yeah i only switched to it because stable stopped recording also. i probably have something messsed up
[05:27:00] Chutt: so, was that true, or not?
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[05:28:00] dgilmore: Chutt: im trying to determine if that is the case
[05:28:00] Chutt: ok, so, how exactly do you want someone to help you when you lie to them?
[05:28:00] dgilmore: i have my recording goget saved in /home/shared
[05:29:00] dgilmore: Chutt: i havent lied to anyone
[05:29:00] Chutt: you just _said_ you did
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[05:29:00] dgilmore: in svn when you watch live tv rather than deleting the file it saves it with the scheduled recordings
[05:29:00] Chutt: so?
[05:30:00] Chutt: what's that have to do with _anything_?
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[05:30:00] dgilmore: so when i watch live tv the recording is saved
[05:30:00] Chutt: live tv isn't a scheduled recording
[05:30:00] Chutt: i've said that 3 fucking times now.
[05:30:00] Chutt: one working has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
[05:30:00] dgilmore: Chutt: im obvoiusly not making things clear enough
[05:30:00] Chutt: no, you're an idiot, and i'm going to stop wasting my time now.
[05:31:00] dgilmore: that in svn they do the same exact thing
[05:31:00] Chutt: no, they don't
[05:31:00] dgilmore: yeah they do
[05:31:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[05:31:00] Chutt: i wrote the goddamn code, i think i know what it does.
[05:31:00] dgilmore: Chutt: your a wanker
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[05:31:00] kormoc: wow
[05:33:00] Chutt: heh
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[05:34:00] weizur: is there a quick way to delete all my recordings?
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[05:35:00] topping: just got an aopen mini-pc
[05:35:00] topping: mac mini clone
[05:35:00] topping: needs processor, ram and disk tho... damn
[05:37:00] Chutt: only reviews i've seen of those said they were really loud.
[05:37:00] topping: ack, that's no good
[05:39:00] kormoc: are the fans replaceable?
[05:39:00] topping: doesn't appear to be
[05:39:00] topping: processor fan is ducted to the rear of the box
[05:40:00] topping: that seems to be the only fan
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[05:44:00] topping: just plugged it in, not too bad
[05:44:00] topping: louder than an xbox
[05:44:00] netrix: anyone know where to get a nice home theatre type of case like these: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/catego . . . p?CatId=1507
[05:44:00] netrix: they are nice but kinda expensive.
[05:46:00] netrix: topping: what about a shuttle bare bones? they are pretty quiet, just add ram and disk. http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/SB87G5.asp
[05:46:00] kormoc: I would think that prehaps tigerdirect sells cases like that netrix
[05:46:00] netrix: well i know ... wondered if there was somewhere cheaper to get them.
[05:46:00] netrix: some are like $300 bucks!
[05:46:00] topping: netrix: i didn't like the form factor
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[05:47:00] topping: i picked up my minipc for $340 or something
[05:47:00] kormoc: huh
[05:47:00] weizur: i have no recordings but it says i have 180gb used any ideas whats wrong or how i can reclaim that space?
[05:47:00] netrix: weizur: rm -rf *
[05:47:00] topping: weizur: 'du / | sort -n | more'
[05:47:00] weizur: nice
[05:49:00] netrix: topping: looking at pics of the minipc, is it the width of a 5.25" drive?
[05:49:00] topping: yah
[05:49:00] topping: it's a total mac mini ripoff
[05:49:00] netrix: topping: it is nice, understated yet it has some bling.
[05:50:00] topping: mmm, bling
[05:51:00] netrix: i still think the xpc is nice, but i guess it's kinda huge next to a minipc.
[05:51:00] netrix: omg... this is nice too: http://global.shuttle.com/Product/System/M1000.asp
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[06:01:00] weizur: hey everyone i deleted some stuff manually and it still shows up in my lists how can i clear that stuf out?
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[06:06:00] poop: Does it also have a slowass 2.5" drive?
[06:06:00] mika1: I get: mpeg/mpegstreamdata.h:75: error: ‘PESPacket’ has not been declared
[06:06:00] mika1: when compiling from the tarball from the site
[06:06:00] mika1: Any ideas?
[06:07:00] weizur: hey everyone i deleted some stuff manually and it still shows up in my lists how can i clear that stuf out?
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[06:08:00] tetrawr: poop: there are 2.5" 7200 rpm drives with 16mb buffers available
[06:09:00] poop: tetrawr: sounds expensive, but I wonder why people aren't putting those into their minis
[06:09:00] tetrawr: poop: i'd rather use 3.5" drives because, well, 400 or 500 GB...
[06:11:00] poop: A lot of people get firewire drives for their minis.
[06:11:00] poop: I guess it's still luggable ...
[06:11:00] poop: or whatever else the mini does for you
[06:18:00] simcop2387: tetrawr: that and 3.5" floppies hold more than 2.5"
[06:19:00] dougl: ne1 config x10 usb remote with debian?
[06:19:00] simcop2387: anyone config config config config....? what?
[06:19:00] simcop2387: :)
[06:20:00] simcop2387: i didn't know the x10's were suported?
[06:20:00] dougl: lirc supports them
[06:21:00] kormoc: d0ug1, n3g4t1v3 0n d4 l33t r3m0terz0r5 th31r th3n br0l1510u5 m4n.
[06:23:00] dougl: wtf?
[06:23:00] kormoc: just tring to be cool and l33t man, with the lack of grammer and pr0p3r w0rds, they are the l4m3rz!
[06:24:00] simcop2387: dougl: i've never set anything up other than my creative serial reciever
[06:25:00] dougl: simcop2387: thanks
[06:25:00] dougl: kormoc: I felt old fat and dumb... so you're cool :)
[06:26:00] simcop2387: dougl: it shouldn't be too hard assuming the debian packages support it, if not compiling it from source shouldnt' be any different than for any remote
[06:26:00] kormoc: w00t3rz! fame and fortune here I come!
[06:27:00] poop: linux apps sure crash all the time when you run them over ssh
[06:27:00] ** kormoc blinks. **
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[06:28:00] kormoc: why would that be?
[06:28:00] simcop2387: poop: like what?
[06:28:00] dougl: crash?
[06:28:00] poop: Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[06:28:00] poop: serial 30 error_code 10 request_code 102 minor_code 0
[06:28:00] dougl: lag
[06:28:00] kormoc: poop, try running it with -Y rathern the -X
[06:28:00] simcop2387: ah, its trying to use local resources thinking its not a remote connection, thats why
[06:28:00] kormoc: dougl, x's designed for higher latency communication fine, that's not a lag error.
[06:28:00] simcop2387: the software should be able to do that
[06:29:00] kormoc: simcop2387, actually, that's how x forwarding works. it just needs the higher permissions -Y allows rather then -X
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[06:29:00] simcop2387: kormoc: ah so it can? cool i'll have to remember that i've had similar problems
[06:29:00] poop: That's a new one (works too)
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[06:30:00] kormoc: -Y basically gives it full local access to the x session, -X gives a restrictive, safer access level
[06:30:00] simcop2387: kormoc what would that be in a config file?
[06:30:00] kormoc: simcop2387, I'm not sure... it's spoken about in man ssh, might wanna check what it says and go from there
[06:32:00] banyan: I have had a recent issue using vnc which works better for graphics-intensive things.
[06:32:00] banyan: Can't make a connection from work all of a sudden!
[06:32:00] banyan: but when I could, vnc was way faster at running things than ssh with a local x server.
[06:33:00] kormoc: of course, the overhead of the ssh tunnel is a bit
[06:33:00] simcop2387: banyan: thats because vnc is asynchronos
[06:33:00] simcop2387: it'll skip frames if it needs to
[06:33:00] kormoc: simcop2387, actually, X's protocal is asynchronos as well
[06:34:00] kormoc: as to skippage of frames, that's true, but that's not really async :P
[06:35:00] simcop2387: you know what i mean, x has to send every frame IIRC vnc doesn't
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[06:35:00] kormoc: well, in theory, X only sends draw statements, where as vnc sends just a chunk of an image. Neather actually send frames.
[06:36:00] kormoc: simcop2387, not really tring to be an asshole, just sorta sharing the knowledge.
[06:36:00] simcop2387: but your showing me up because i'm too lazy to make those kinds of distinctions right now
[06:36:00] weizur: anyone ever have problems with frames skipping? do i need more memory perhaps?
[06:36:00] simcop2387: :)
[06:37:00] simcop2387: weizur: is it HD?
[06:37:00] weizur: no
[06:37:00] weizur: normal cable
[06:37:00] simcop2387: video card?
[06:37:00] weizur: i have 512m of memory i think
[06:37:00] weizur: geforce 2 i believe
[06:37:00] simcop2387: so do i, no frame skipping ever]
[06:38:00] simcop2387: cpu? capture card?
[06:38:00] weizur: pvr 350 and like 2 ghz or so p4
[06:38:00] simcop2387: hrm
[06:38:00] simcop2387: that should be more than plenty
[06:38:00] simcop2387: what drivers for the video card?
[06:38:00] weizur: yeah thats why the skippings confusing me
[06:39:00] weizur: how do i check that?
[06:39:00] simcop2387: well is it the ones from nvidia or the free ones from x11-xorg?
[06:39:00] weizur: probably whatever comes with knoppmyth
[06:39:00] simcop2387: hmm
[06:39:00] simcop2387: dunno what comes with it, it could be the free nv ones, can you run glxgears?
[06:40:00] kormoc: the ones that come with knoppmyth will be the freeones most likely
[06:40:00] kormoc: easy way to tell would be lsmod and see if you have the nvidia module loaded
[06:40:00] weizur: it opens but nothing shows up on the window it opens
[06:41:00] simcop2387: sdounds like the free ones
[06:41:00] simcop2387: they aren't accelerated
[06:41:00] weizur: root@mythtv:/home/jon# lsmod | grep nvid
[06:41:00] weizur: nvidia 3463932 22
[06:41:00] weizur: agpgart 29616 2 nvidia,intel_agp
[06:41:00] simcop2387: hrm
[06:41:00] kormoc: are you using the 350's tv out?
[06:41:00] kormoc: that's the nvidia specific one
[06:41:00] kormoc: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[06:41:00] weizur: no i'm using the svideo converted to component from the geforce 2
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[06:41:00] kormoc: if it says direct rendering: yes, then you have accellerated opengl
[06:42:00] kormoc: anyway, you will want to enable hardware xvmc in the playback settings of the frontend, it should help with the load
[06:42:00] simcop2387: this is weirding me out, all the hardware says it should work with no problems what so ever
[06:42:00] simcop2387: i didn't like xvmc, the ui was in black and white
[06:42:00] ** kormoc raises an eyebrow **
[06:43:00] kormoc: that's odd, as xvmc is only used on mpeg-2 playback
[06:43:00] kormoc: given it's just hardware mpeg-2 decoding.
[06:43:00] simcop2387: kormoc, yea the osd i mean
[06:43:00] kormoc: ahh, huh
[06:43:00] weizur: direct rendering: yes
[06:43:00] kormoc: what do ya know, mine's black and white as well
[06:43:00] poop: It messes up HD playback with the OSD too.
[06:43:00] kormoc: well, black, grey and white
[06:43:00] simcop2387: xv works for me so i don't care
[06:44:00] kormoc: simcop2387, on my box, it's a difference of 75% cpu usage to 15%
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[06:45:00] weizur: where is that xvmc setting at?
[06:45:00] kormoc: under tv playback in the frontend settings
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[06:59:00] weizur: does myth have a suggestions feature like tivo or is one in the works?
[06:59:00] kormoc: one is in the works for well over a year and afaik, it's not very good.
[07:01:00] bobc: can anyone tell me how I can validate an mpeg2 file? I'm getting a bunch of errors with my PVR-250 recordings and I'd like a simple way to tell if an mpeg2 file is "good" or not
[07:02:00] weizur: hmm, i think you'll have to watch it
[07:03:00] weizur: lol, you could maybe run a program to test correct file formatting and what not but beyond that you'd need visual inspection
[07:04:00] bobc: ffmpeg is spitting out MVs not available and other errors when commercial detecting and playing, so I'm sure there must be a way to do it faster than simply watching it
[07:05:00] bobc: mpeg2fix that is now in svn is one such possibility, however I'm not sure if it can simply tell me if it is a good file
[07:07:00] bobc: I had two recordings tonight that lost a/v sync
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[08:35:00] F1uffy: Could someone tell me what this issue is?
[08:35:00] F1uffy: Dec 15 00:31:41 mythtv kernel: ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x40046406!
[08:35:00] F1uffy: Dec 15 00:31:41 mythtv kernel: ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x40046406!
[08:35:00] F1uffy: I was able to get video but now I cant after a reboot
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[09:01:00] jakeisawake: hey, anyone know the apt source for myth packages. the one listed in the docs is not maintained naymore
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[09:07:00] daieldk: greetz – quick question – does mythtv-18.2(18.1-fixes) run protocol 15?
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[09:11:00] daieldk: jakeisawake: i'll check mu sources.list
[09:11:00] jakeisawake: thanks
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[09:11:00] jakeisawake: deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/ unstable mythtv
[09:11:00] jakeisawake: <-- thats what i was using back in the day
[09:12:00] jakeisawake: but it is no longer available i guess
[09:13:00] daieldk: jakeisawake: deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv.old
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[09:13:00] daieldk: deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv.old
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[09:14:00] jakeisawake: daieldk, Thanks!
[09:15:00] daieldk: they are still there but as you said – not maintained
[09:15:00] daieldk: NP
[09:18:00] jakeisawake: just odd they havent updated the doc, usually they are good about that
[09:18:00] jakeisawake: couldnt find it on mailing list either
[09:18:00] daieldk: i thought the cut that entire section out of the docs
[09:19:00] daieldk: google, however will still find the old docs
[09:20:00] jakeisawake: thanks again
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[09:32:00] juski: morning all
[09:32:00] daieldk: mornin'
[09:32:00] Pix: today, i try to make snes9x workin with the remote.
[09:32:00] Pix: phear :)
[09:33:00] daieldk: sounds like fun..
[09:33:00] Pix: well,if you consider that no pain, no fun..
[09:33:00] Pix: then yes
[09:33:00] Pix: it's fun :)
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[09:35:00] ** juski has yet to even try mythgame **
[09:36:00] Pix: :)
[09:36:00] Pix: talking about game
[09:36:00] Pix: some knows how "good" is the via's unichrome opengl ?
[09:37:00] juski: Pix: I don't think it is
[09:37:00] juski: put it this way – not even goom works on my EPIA setup
[09:37:00] Pix: coz i'd like to try Jake 2 on it
[09:37:00] juski: not that I'm bothered
[09:37:00] Pix: which epia do you have ?
[09:37:00] Pix: 800 ?
[09:37:00] juski: M10000
[09:37:00] Pix: ah, same as mine
[09:37:00] Pix: ok
[09:38:00] juski: jake2 on a 1Ghz CPU... eew
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[09:38:00] Pix: well, quake2 worked like a charm on P2 300
[09:38:00] Pix: with a good old 3dfx :)
[09:38:00] juski: did it? n can't remember that far back lol
[09:39:00] Pix: http://www.planetquake.com/q2faq/
[09:39:00] daieldk: yup also ran perfectly on a p pro 200
[09:39:00] Pix: "Since Quake II has new effects, more detailed textures, levels and models than Quake it also requires a more high-spec machine. Here are the official system requirements:
[09:39:00] Pix: * Windows® 95 or NT 4.0 with 100% compatible computer system
[09:39:00] Pix: * Pentium® 90 MHz Processor (133 MHz recommended)"
[09:40:00] juski: I've seen some java apps turn my celery desktop into a straight pentium they were that badly written
[09:40:00] Pix: btw i also could use the real quake2 port for linux
[09:40:00] Pix: instead of jake..
[09:40:00] ** Pix switches on his neuron **
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[10:05:00] wole: morning all
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[10:10:00] juski: fsking bonus this year is 60% down on last year...  :-(
[10:10:00] wole: 60p instead of £1 ?
[10:11:00] wole: (oops, that'd be 40p :-$)
[10:11:00] juski: lol
[10:13:00] juski: suppose it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. the glass is half full etc
[10:14:00] wole: i don't get a bonus.. if that makes you feel any better.
[10:14:00] juski: being realistic about it – least I've still got a job
[10:14:00] wole: lol
[10:15:00] juski: but ask me again this time next year
[10:15:00] wole: surely it's not that bad...
[10:15:00] juski: owner of this company has too many racing cars
[10:15:00] wole: ooh
[10:16:00] juski: his perogative, but nobody would mind if he wasn';t such a c***
[10:17:00] wole: last place i worked, our director stood up and told us that we had made record profits this year, just after everyones annual review where *everyone* was told that the compan couldn't afford to give anyone a pay rise (not even inflation linked)
[10:17:00] wole: cnuts, all of them
[10:17:00] juski: yep
[10:18:00] juski: ahh well I still maintain that when this one goes pear shaped I'm getting out of electronics for good
[10:18:00] wole: going to be a pig farmer in Dwset?
[10:18:00] juski: wole: lol
[10:19:00] juski: prolly gonna retrain & become a self employed electrician or summit
[10:19:00] juski: no brainer, physical but well paid work
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[10:20:00] wole: you'd get bored with no new toys
[10:20:00] wole: well i would
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[11:33:00] wole: WOOO yay!
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[11:34:00] jono: hi all
[11:38:00] wole: I just got mkmovie working
[11:39:00] jono: anyone using mythrecipe?
[11:39:00] wole: no, what is it?
[11:45:00] juski: hmm I just saw something left on the photocopier I shouldn't have seen. company group profits for this year
[11:46:00] jono: juski, we record our lugradio chrismas show tonight, so go and leave a short happy chrismas message saying who you are by calling 0870 931 1730 (+44 870 931 1730 for international callers)
[11:46:00] jono: :)
[11:47:00] juski: now I'm fucking _angry_
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[11:47:00] juski: jono: not in the right frame of mind right now.
[11:47:00] jono: juski, no probs pal :)
[11:48:00] juski: mythrecipe is another of them plugin things.. which erm.. lets you see recipes on your mythtv
[11:49:00] jono: juski, do you have it running?
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[11:51:00] juski: jono: nope
[11:51:00] juski: there's a hack to get it to compile with 0.18 though
[11:51:00] jono: is there?
[11:51:00] juski: google for mythextras
[11:51:00] jono: I saw that package
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[11:53:00] wole: bah, false alarm, it ditched with a "libavcodec.so: cannot open shared object file: No such fi"
[11:55:00] wole: juski: similar to my previous situation? lots of money made, but none of the employees?
[11:55:00] juski: pretty much, wole
[11:55:00] juski: it's better than nothing, what we're getting, and in this day & age we should feel lucky we still have jobs, but that's not the point
[11:56:00] wole: aah, well – have a laugh at this http://www.weakendproductions.co.uk/movs/
[11:56:00] wole: new one out today
[11:57:00] juski: I've told managers about folks printing out sensitive company data on the communal laser printer/copier. if a competitor got hold our our sales figures...
[11:58:00] jono: what is MYTHDIR?
[11:59:00] juski: mythdir.. no idea
[12:00:00] juski: jono: I guess you've seen this page... http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythRecipe.html
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[12:02:00] juski: bah... bloomin quicktime is barred
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[12:02:00] ** juski is gonna explode today **
[12:03:00] rsdvd: don't explode....you will make a mess
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[12:06:00] juski: lol
[12:06:00] juski: not that kind of 'explode' I'm happy to say
[12:06:00] rsdvd: :-)
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[12:21:00] juski: still at least Gervais didn't win anything last night :D
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[12:51:00] juski: ahh this little linky has just warmed the festering, bitter cockles of my heart :) http://www.spleen.dsl.pipex.com/awards-djs.html
[12:56:00] jono: hmmm mythrecipe won't run
[12:58:00] jono: I installed the plugin fine in /usr/local/share/mythtv and /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins, but it doesnt seem to access those directories
[12:59:00] Pix: are there a repository for non-official mythtv plugins ?
[13:08:00] juski: jono – maybe that's part of the reason mythrecipe isn't an offical plugin ;)
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[13:25:00] jono: anyone using a pvr and dvb card together?
[13:25:00] daieldk: yup
[13:25:00] jono: daieldk, do they work well together?
[13:25:00] daieldk: pvr-250 and a hauppauge hau2020
[13:26:00] jono: daieldk, so can you record on one card and watch on the other?
[13:26:00] daieldk: yes – without a hitch
[13:26:00] daieldk: yes
[13:26:00] jono: how do you switch between cards?
[13:26:00] daieldk: using the remote
[13:26:00] jono: how do you tune the dvb card?
[13:26:00] ** jono is about to install his nova card **
[13:27:00] daieldk: using the built in "channel search"
[13:27:00] jono: cool
[13:27:00] daieldk: in mythtv-setup->channels
[13:27:00] rjune: afternoon Jono, how are things going for you?
[13:27:00] jono: in the tv schedule, how do you pick which card the show is recorded with?
[13:27:00] jono: rjune, good, you? :)
[13:28:00] rjune: I woke up this morning and got out of bed. It's a good day so far
[13:28:00] daieldk: well – it does it for you
[13:28:00] jono: daieldk, oh cool, so you don't have to choose?
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[13:30:00] daieldk: not really it'll use the card on wich the channel exists
[13:30:00] jono: cool
[13:31:00] jono: am I right in thinking that tv listings can be pulled from the dvb stream?
[13:31:00] daieldk: and you'll get a warning if it tries to record a show on a different channel if you are using it to watch live tv
[13:32:00] daieldk: yes – using ./configure --enable-dvb-eit or something like that
[13:32:00] daieldk: but thats kinda broken in 18.1
[13:33:00] jono: daieldk, can I use my existing program guide to record on the dvb?
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[13:34:00] daieldk: well if it can match up the service-id to your guide data – then yes
[13:34:00] daieldk: i use dvb-grab to get the epg
[13:35:00] juski: eit isn't broken in 0.18.1.. I can use it just fine
[13:36:00] daieldk: well – it also works for me on SOME channels
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[13:37:00] juski: works on every channel here in the UK
[13:38:00] daieldk: must be nice... here in Denmarkr/Sweden they even use illegal characters so one has to clean up the eit-data
[13:39:00] juski: that said, we get strange characters, though that's not restricted to EIT – it's the case with xmltv too.. things like apostrophes sometimes get messed up
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[13:41:00] daieldk: thats when sed comes in handy :-)
[13:43:00] praet: tanq you still there?
[13:43:00] juski: I'm interested in finding out how well a pvr150 works in a system with cx23880 based DVB-T cards.. I guess there's only one good way to find out...
[13:44:00] praet: a painful way
[13:44:00] juski: praet: not necessarily
[13:44:00] juski: it might just work
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[13:56:00] jono: ok just setting up my nova-t card now
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[14:23:00] juski: argghhh! which bit of 'do not check for updates' does this piece of shit acrobat read not fucking understand?!?!?!?!
[14:24:00] praet: haha
[14:24:00] praet: a good tip for acrobat is to rename the plugins folder to get it to start faster
[14:24:00] praet: albeit not with any features of those plugs
[14:25:00] juski: what?! I've got to restart my computer coz I changed a setting in Acrobat Reader?!?!?!?!
[14:25:00] juski: you ever see Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down' ?
[14:25:00] juski: right
[14:26:00] juski: open-source PDF reader here I come
[14:26:00] ** juski googles **
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[14:28:00] rjune: juski: kpdf
[14:28:00] juski: for windows
[14:28:00] rjune: oh, sorry
[14:28:00] juski: np
[14:28:00] juski: my work-bsed PC woes are all windows ones
[14:30:00] praet: ghostscript, xpdf ?
[14:31:00] Pix: evince
[14:31:00] praet: http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/download.html
[14:33:00] juski: cheers – just tried a java one – but that won't open this document I've got
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[14:35:00] praet: i wonder if you could use the acrobat library to open pdfs in other programs
[14:35:00] praet: does sourceforge seem slow today?
[14:36:00] laga: yep!
[14:36:00] wole: gogle can open pdf's
[14:37:00] praet: wole good point.. they use pdftohtml.exe
[14:37:00] praet: custom build
[14:37:00] laga: i doub't they're using .exe files ;)
[14:37:00] wole: lol
[14:37:00] juski: if the URL was .exe in it, 'superscout' denies access to it
[14:37:00] wole: no, but if it's a publicly available pdf then searching for the filename with the 'doctype:pdf' tag should do it
[14:38:00] juski: but hey we can all download .rar files, the leetest of all w@re5
[14:38:00] praet: oh thats what is included with the win32 google desktop to parse pdfs
[14:38:00] sphing: lol @ juski's w@r35
[14:39:00] praet: is a p3 1.0b adequate to use a pvr-150 or should i just grab the pvr-250?
[14:40:00] GreyFoxx: praet: the pvr cards take basically 0 cpu, so for capture any box will do
[14:41:00] praet: the hauppage site says p3 1.2 for the 150 as there is no hardware encoder like the 250
[14:41:00] GreyFoxx: Uhhh show me that URL as that is incorrect
[14:41:00] GreyFoxx: the 150 has the exact same encoder as the 250
[14:42:00] GreyFoxx: the 150/250/350/500 all do hardware encoding
[14:42:00] praet: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr150.html << System requirements
[14:42:00] praet: of course they also recommend windows xp :)
[14:42:00] Cardoe: praet: they're assuming you're gonna be doing playback as well.
[14:42:00] GreyFoxx: Well, right at the top they say
[14:42:00] GreyFoxx: "High quality MPEG-2 hardware encoder used when recording"
[14:43:00] ** Cardoe fashions a little cone out of a piece of paper and scribbles something on it before placing it on praet's head. **
[14:43:00] praet: damnit i thought that was the difference between that and the 250
[14:43:00] Xenna: Hauppauge have their own Linux based network client: the mediamvw
[14:43:00] Xenna: So, they're quite cool
[14:43:00] Xenna: mediamvp
[14:43:00] GreyFoxx: praet: The 150 is just a "new" and cheaper model replacing the more expensive 250's
[14:44:00] praet: and comes with an ir transmitter
[14:44:00] Cardoe: 1 chip rather then 2
[14:44:00] Cardoe: they don't have IR transmitters.
[14:44:00] praet: wtf i must be losing my mind
[14:44:00] GreyFoxx: praet: Receiver maybe, and that differs based on the OEM MCE version or the retail version
[14:45:00] GreyFoxx: Those specs do list an IR blaster though
[14:45:00] Cardoe: praet: or attending classes at the Zoolander School
[14:45:00] praet: wel ive got a snapstream ir blaster lying around if it doesnt come with it
[14:45:00] praet: Cardoe more like clown school
[14:46:00] ** Cardoe has a PVR-150 in MCE and OEM **
[14:46:00] Cardoe: no IR blaster on mine
[14:46:00] praet: http://tinyurl.com/aq9ww << newegg pics of retail 150
[14:47:00] praet: in any case im glad the p3 1.0 will suffice
[14:48:00] praet: anyone using a pci video card with tv out?
[14:48:00] GreyFoxx: No AGP slot ?
[14:49:00] praet: nope :( http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/amptron/P6STMT.htm
[14:50:00] praet: agp 2x
[14:50:00] Xenna: PVR 350 is PCI and has TV-Out
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: I'd just hunt down a pci nvidia card with tvout
[14:51:00] praet: ive line up this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130186
[14:52:00] GreyFoxx: that should be fine
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[14:53:00] praet: ive got one of those svid to composite adapters.. is that a problem?
[14:53:00] GreyFoxx: no
[14:53:00] GreyFoxx: shouldn't be anyway
[14:53:00] praet: I ithnk i tried it once and couldnt get clean video, then swapped it out for a card with composite out, no s-vid
[14:54:00] praet: anyways this clown school is trying to built this as a gift, so im expecting the unexpected
[14:55:00] GreyFoxx: heh
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[14:56:00] praet: GreyFoxx what mythbox systems have you got
[14:57:00] GreyFoxx: 2 backends, 3 pc based frontends and 1 mediamvp frontend
[14:58:00] Xenna: Hey, geryfoxx, how's the mediamvp?
[14:58:00] Xenna: I plan to buy one
[14:58:00] Xenna: it looks very interesting
[14:58:00] GreyFoxx: works fine. Except I haven't used it in a month since the mvpmc guys haven't caught up to the latest myth protocol changes
[14:58:00] Xenna: :(
[14:58:00] GreyFoxx: I use SVN, not 0.18.x
[14:59:00] Xenna: Is it fast enough for livetv and playing dvix movies and stuff?
[14:59:00] Xenna: OK, I'm stil on 0.18.1
[14:59:00] Xenna: I'm thinking of buying 3 and puting one on top of every TV
[15:00:00] GreyFoxx: Xenna: Recordings(mpeg2) playback and livetv(mpeg2) it's fine, but no it wont play divx in hardware
[15:01:00] Xenna: and is it fast enough for software playback?
[15:01:00] GreyFoxx: no
[15:01:00] Xenna: mmmm :(
[15:01:00] Xenna: So I'd have to transcode everything
[15:02:00] Xenna: I'll buy one anyway, only 70 EUR is cheap enough to play with
[15:03:00] GreyFoxx: It comes with hauppage software on the fly transcoding on a server which feeds mpeg2 to the mvp
[15:03:00] GreyFoxx: but that's windows based
[15:03:00] GreyFoxx: there is lots of talk of setting up something similar, maybe using vlc for the mvpmc stuff but no real movement on it yet that has been posted to the mvp mailing list
[15:03:00] Xenna: I've noticed that recent ivtv versions come with an mpeg2 encoder that seems to use the card's hardware
[15:04:00] Xenna: Could be used to speed things up, perhaps
[15:04:00] GreyFoxx: Uhhhh
[15:04:00] GreyFoxx: the ivtv drivers are ONLY For the pvr cards which do mpeg2 hardwre encoding
[15:04:00] Xenna: Yep, but I have those already
[15:05:00] Xenna: Coulkd be used for transcoding on the backend I mean
[15:05:00] GreyFoxx: then what do you mean... they come with something that lets you pass raw video to the hardware encoder and get mpeg2 back ?
[15:05:00] Xenna: It looks like it (may be wrong)
[15:05:00] GreyFoxx: I highly doubt that
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[15:05:00] GreyFoxx: But it would be interesting if true
[15:05:00] Xenna: [root@alastor hans]# ivtv-encoder
[15:05:00] praet: that would be a good idea
[15:06:00] Xenna: Usage: encoder [-s] [-c chann|-f freq] [seconds] [mpegfile]
[15:06:00] GreyFoxx: What version ? I'll grab it and look
[15:06:00] Xenna: hmm, I wonder what the frequency is for
[15:06:00] Xenna: latest 0.4.1
[15:06:00] laga: looks like you can use it to record TV. duh.
[15:06:00] Xenna: If it did what I thought it did it wouldn't have a 'freq' setting
[15:07:00] Xenna: exactly
[15:07:00] Xenna: sorry ;(
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[15:07:00] dgilmore: is there a problem with the mailing list at the moment?
[15:07:00] GreyFoxx: ok, no worries. It would have been nifty if they had somehow found a way to do that
[15:07:00] Xenna: yeah, I thought it was cool
[15:08:00] Xenna: when I dreamed it up...
[15:09:00] GreyFoxx: Weird, I see 0.4.0 and 0.5.1 but no 0.4.1 on their site
[15:10:00] GreyFoxx: but I've seen 4.1 mentioned before
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[15:18:00] Xenna: http://ivtvdriver.org/viewcvs/ivtv/branches/0.4.tar.gz?view=tar
[15:18:00] Xenna: That's the latest 0.4.1
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[15:19:00] Xenna: Dec 12 20:35:19 alastor kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.1 (development snapshot compiled on Mon 12 Dec 2005 08:31:39 PM CET) loading
[15:19:00] jono: anyone using a nova-t (connexiant) card here?
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[15:22:00] fryfrog: 0.4.1 is out?
[15:22:00] juski: jono: 'sup?
[15:22:00] fryfrog: oh, nm
[15:22:00] fryfrog: just a test version
[15:22:00] jono: juski, my nova-t card is playing up – it won;t work
[15:23:00] jono: its one of the connexiant ones
[15:23:00] juski: jono: what do you mean 'playing up'?
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[15:23:00] jono: juski, well when I run scan I get main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 19 No such device
[15:24:00] juski: jono: have you seen the ethics-gradient site for dvb & mythtv? it's a little out of date but otherwise very good
[15:24:00] jono: that device exists
[15:24:00] juski: jono: what distro are you using?
[15:24:00] jono: ubuntu breezy
[15:24:00] juski: right
[15:24:00] jono: Linux mythtv 2.6.12-9–386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:25:00] juski: now... it's possible your nova-t card is a new revision that isn't supported by that kernel
[15:25:00] juski: I dunno though – I've not been keeping up to speed with traffic on the maling lists
[15:26:00] jono: apparent the chipset is supported by 2.6.12
[15:26:00] juski: jono: unload all the dvb related modules, then load them again & do a dmesg
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[15:27:00] jono: which module do I unload?
[15:27:00] juski: lsmod |grep dvb
[15:27:00] juski: cx88-dvb as a guess
[15:28:00] juski: ahh hang on... what permissions are on /dev/dvb/adapter0 ? sometimes they get screwed up, which might be why mythtv is failing to open it
[15:29:00] jono: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2005-12–15 14:36 adapter0
[15:29:00] jono: and then in there
[15:29:00] jono: everything is crw-rw----
[15:30:00] juski: seems to be ok
[15:30:00] juski: think you'll need clues from dmesg to get on
[15:30:00] jono: I do get some dmesg problems
[15:30:00] jono: cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
[15:30:00] juski: aha
[15:30:00] jono: and then loafs of other unknown symbol problems
[15:30:00] juski: as I suspected
[15:30:00] juski: it'
[15:31:00] juski: it's not happy about coexisting with the PVR driver
[15:31:00] jono: oh bugger
[15:31:00] jono: how can I resolve this?
[15:31:00] juski: this is what I'm concerned about
[15:33:00] juski: I _think_ it might just be as simple as moving stuff around & loading from a new location, but I don't know how that'd work
[15:33:00] jono: hmmm
[15:33:00] jono: what do you mean?
[15:34:00] juski: I'm pretty damn sure other folks are using PVR cards & DVb tuners though
[15:35:00] juski: jono: maybe compiling the DVB drivers from source but put them in a different location to where kernel modules are normally kept.. then load them yourself. But I can't see how that would work
[15:35:00] jono: hmmm
[15:36:00] jono: there must be a way of doing this
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[15:39:00] jono: juski, so is the nova-t a bttv card?
[15:39:00] juski: jono: knope
[15:39:00] jono: juski, oh, what does it use?
[15:40:00] juski: cx88
[15:40:00] jono: hmmm
[15:41:00] juski: same frontend chip as the PVR card I think
[15:41:00] jono: oh
[15:41:00] juski: google for the error, jono.. loads of possibilities there
[15:41:00] juski: I think maybe a kernel upgrade could help though
[15:41:00] jono: yeah
[15:42:00] jono: incidentally, does mythtv play cds?
[15:43:00] juski: what as in VCDs? Yes. As in music CDs? Yes
[15:43:00] jono: music cds
[15:43:00] juski: mythmusic
[15:43:00] jono: where in the interface do I play it?
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[15:44:00] t00m: i just need to get rid of my (almost) daily complaint about my tv card
[15:44:00] t00m: IT SUCKS
[15:44:00] t00m: but maybe it's all myths fault..
[15:44:00] t00m: now i'm feeling better and ready to go to bed
[15:45:00] juski: t00m: myth is never to blame for anything, it's 100% user error, every time
[15:45:00] juski: ;)
[15:45:00] Krazylegz: PEBKAC and whatnot.
[15:45:00] t00m: ah, ehm, it stops receiving without any reason after a day or so
[15:45:00] juski: jono: Optical discs menu
[15:45:00] juski: t00m: so why the hell would that be mythtv's fault?
[15:45:00] wole: *nothing* can make you feel quite as stupid as a computer, it doesn't matter how much you know.
[15:45:00] t00m: juski: i said maybe
[15:45:00] t00m: i don't believe it myself
[15:46:00] t00m: i just need something to blame ;)
[15:46:00] t00m: and since i didnt touch the system since its last recording, it can't be me
[15:46:00] juski: t00m: just blame yourself. that's what I do "it's all that t00m's fault..."
[15:46:00] juski: :P
[15:46:00] t00m: which straightly leads me back to:
[15:47:00] t00m: i just need to get rid of my (almost) daily complaint about my tv card
[15:47:00] t00m: IT SUCKS
[15:47:00] Krazylegz: t00m: I don't see the details of your issue in the log?
[15:47:00] Krazylegz: Not that I can help, but I am curious.
[15:47:00] t00m: exactly, because there are none
[15:47:00] juski: t00m: if that's the case, take it out of your PC and hold it down near your groin
[15:48:00] t00m: for the future: don't recommend DIVICO
[15:48:00] Krazylegz: Divico?
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[15:50:00] t00m: maybe i've got some time to chase down that bug next week
[15:50:00] juski: "hey we could make loads of money flogging PC TV tuner cards.. yay! Just scribble down that schematic diagram & farm it out to the cheapest contract manufacturer we can find..."
[15:50:00] t00m: till then i'll just keep complaining about that stupid card
[15:51:00] wole: transcode failed at /usr/bin/mkmovie line 1100.
[15:51:00] wole: look familiar?
[15:51:00] juski: jono: maybe there
[15:51:00] juski: maybe there's a newer version of ivtv that could help you with that issue too jono
[15:52:00] juski: oh hang on.. maybe it's just a naming issue jono... what's the ivtv tveeprom kernel module called?
[15:54:00] juski: jono it's one for #dvb and one for #ivtv maybe
[15:54:00] laga: wole: what's mkmovie supposed to do?
[15:56:00] wole: it extracts avi files from myth
[15:56:00] laga: wole: do you know nuvexport? www.forevermore.net
[15:57:00] wole: it runs two programs:
[15:57:00] wole: About to run mencoder -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vstrict=1:vhq:k eyint=15:vbitrate=1500 -o /myth/video/Teaching_with_Bayley-Finding_Time.avi.tmp 1016_20051213001500_20051213003000.nuv
[15:57:00] wole: followed by transcode -xdivx -yraw -P1 -b128 -c,0–22428 -i /myth/video/Teaching _with_Bayley-Finding_Time.avi.tmp -o /myth/video/Teaching_with_Bayley-Finding_Ti me.avi
[15:57:00] laga: wole: and if it works for you, please tell me what version of ffmpeg or transcode you're using. ;)
[15:57:00] wole: haha
[15:57:00] wole: i tried nuvexport, coudn;t get it to work
[15:58:00] wole: mkmovie makes an avi.tmp file with mpeg4 video ok, but the audio side is left at mpeg1 layer2
[15:59:00] wole: so it at least half works
[16:01:00] juski: in the words of Cartman, ".. I'm going home"
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[16:07:00] Krazylegz: Hmm, new hard drive and DVD-ROM drive to install in the Mythbox sometime.
[16:07:00] laga: Krazylegz: give them to me, i could install them in my box ASAP ;)
[16:09:00] Krazylegz: Ha. I'll ship them UPS ground to you. Should be there as soon as the oceans freeze.
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[16:10:00] laga: hehe ;)
[16:15:00] moonie-work: so next week
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[16:49:00] Huggy_: could anyone give me a hand installing my stystar1 CI DVB card for mythv, it wont get picked up , followed a couple of threads and searching for answers but nothing seems to work yet
[16:49:00] Huggy_: any help would be appreciated – its a Twinhan DVB-S clone
[16:50:00] Huggy_: dmesg picks up : bttv0: detected: Twinhan VisionPlus DVB [card=113], PCI subsystem ID is 1822:0001
[16:50:00] Huggy_: bttv0: using: Twinhan DST + clones [card=113,autodetected]
[16:51:00] Huggy_: and lspci -v : 00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Subsystem: Twinhan Technology Co. Ltd VisionPlus DVB card
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Memory at ea000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
[16:51:00] Huggy_:
[16:51:00] Huggy_: 00:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Subsystem: Twinhan Technology Co. Ltd VisionPlus DVB Card
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Memory at ea001000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
[16:51:00] Huggy_: Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
[16:52:00] Huggy_: still struggling
[16:52:00] Huggy_: mythtv setup doesnt pick up the card
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[16:54:00] Huggy_: could anybody help me on that?
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[17:10:00] psofa: can an amd barton 3000+ with an nvdia 5200 (video hw acceleration ) do 1920x1080 hdtv with no problem?
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[17:12:00] Huggy_: please could someone assist with setting up my twinhan DVB-S card with mythtv – myth cannot detect the card for some reason...
[17:13:00] psofa: does it work fine outside of mythtv?
[17:13:00] Huggy_: in dmesg it shows:
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[17:14:00] Huggy_: bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:00:08.0, irq: 11, latency: 32, mmio: 0xea000000
[17:14:00] Huggy_: bttv0: detected: Twinhan VisionPlus DVB [card=113], PCI subsystem ID is 1822:0001
[17:14:00] Huggy_: bttv0: using: Twinhan DST + clones [card=113,autodetected]
[17:14:00] GreyFoxx: don't paste gobs of stuff here
[17:14:00] Huggy_: ok
[17:14:00] GreyFoxx: put it on pastebin.ca
[17:14:00] GreyFoxx: and paste a link to it
[17:14:00] Huggy_: let me stick in on my website in a txt file
[17:14:00] psofa: well this doesnt mean that the device nodes are fine etc..
[17:14:00] psofa: have you tried playing video of it?
[17:14:00] GreyFoxx: That's probably what's missing
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[17:14:00] psofa: tune to a channel and cat the /dev/ thing
[17:15:00] Huggy_: no I havent yet, would you be able to walk me through that – apologies but this is fairly new to me
[17:15:00] psofa: let me check it bcause ive done it only once and i dont remember
[17:16:00] Huggy_: ok
[17:16:00] Huggy_: what do you want me to paste in the text file, dmesg output and lspci -v output for the bti card entries ?
[17:18:00] psofa: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3081 scroll down , theres a post on how to create the devices
[17:18:00] psofa: its not for your card but i dont think it makes any difference
[17:19:00] psofa: after you configure those
[17:19:00] psofa: use dvbscan
[17:19:00] Huggy_: hmm ok
[17:19:00] psofa: like dvbscan /usr/share/dvb/dvb-s/Hotbird-13.0E >LIST1
[17:20:00] psofa: this saves the channels to LIST1
[17:20:00] psofa: then szap -r -c LIST1 -n 9 to tune to the 9th channel in LIST1
[17:20:00] psofa: and then mplayer -fs – < /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
[17:20:00] psofa: you should see video
[17:21:00] psofa: thats all i know
[17:21:00] psofa: if you cant get it work this way
[17:21:00] psofa: mythtv wont work
[17:21:00] psofa: imho
[17:23:00] Huggy_: yeah its should be using the bt878 drivers, had had a good look around at some posts with this but not able to get it working, i will have alook at this post
[17:25:00] GreyFoxx: do you have any /dev/dvb entries ?
[17:26:00] Huggy_: no its not put anything in there
[17:26:00] GreyFoxx: ok, without those regardless of the driver loading correctly you wont be able to access the card
[17:27:00] Huggy_: right, so i need to follow the post to create the DVB entries?
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[17:27:00] GreyFoxx: I haven't read that post so I don't know what it says
[17:28:00] GreyFoxx: That script they mention would do it
[17:28:00] Mersault: I'm experiencing difficulty with my /dev/video0. whenever I try and use the device (mplayer /dev/video0, or cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg, for instance), I get 'operation not permitted', even as root. what're the possible problems here?
[17:29:00] GreyFoxx: Mersault: No persmissions enabled? Not even read? Driver not loaded ? Already in use ?
[17:29:00] psofa: i repeat -> can an amd barton 3000+ with an nvdia 5200 (video hw acceleration ) do 1920x1080 hdtv with no problem?
[17:30:00] Mersault: GreyFoxx, permissions are fine. rw for all users. driver is loaded. it's a pvr-150 mce, if that makes a difference
[17:30:00] Mersault: And I don'
[17:30:00] Mersault: t think it's in use
[17:31:00] GreyFoxx: No errors of any kind in dmesg from loading the drivers ?
[17:33:00] Mersault: GreyFoxx: http://pastebin.ca/33800 that's my dmesg regarding ivtv
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[17:33:00] Mersault: I don't see any errors
[17:34:00] Mersault: but I am new to this stuff, so perhaps there's a problem and I don't see it
[17:35:00] GreyFoxx: hrm
[17:35:00] GreyFoxx: what does "ls -la /dev/video0" return ?
[17:36:00] Mersault: it points to /dev/v4l/video0
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: I wonder if that's your problem. The system is trying to be smart and do that for you
[17:36:00] Mersault: crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 81, 64 Dec 14 19:39 video0
[17:36:00] Mersault: crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 81, 24 Dec 14 19:39 video24
[17:36:00] Mersault: crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 81, 32 Dec 14 19:39 video32
[17:36:00] Mersault: that's what's in /dev/v4l
[17:36:00] GreyFoxx: that's under the 4vl directory ?
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[17:37:00] GreyFoxx: that minor number doesn't look rugh
[17:37:00] GreyFoxx: it should be 81,0 not 81,64
[17:38:00] GreyFoxx: in the v4l directory "rm -f video0; mknod video0 c 81 0"
[17:39:00] Mersault: okay, that did the trick!
[17:39:00] Filip^: I'm following along here, and for the first time I notice the "radio0" node. Is it possible to cat that, like the video nodes?
[17:39:00] Mersault: do all the devices have to be minor'd 0?
[17:39:00] GreyFoxx: If your distro is automatically recreating the /dev entries on each boot then trhat might not survive a reboot
[17:39:00] GreyFoxx: no
[17:39:00] GreyFoxx: the other 2 look right
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: "usually" the minor number matches the offset, so video0, video1, video2 are 0 1 2 respectivly
[17:40:00] Mersault: okay
[17:40:00] Mersault: yeah, now I need to figure out how to make hotplug fix that
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: not always, but often
[17:40:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[17:41:00] GreyFoxx: I HATE the whole autogenerating /dev at boot crap
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[17:41:00] GreyFoxx: I can understand hotplug creating an entry when one does not exist, but rebuilding everytime is silly
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[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: especially since users have to jump through hoops to make their changes persistant
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[17:43:00] Mersault: yeah, hotplug is nice, but complicated
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: I've never understood the desire to auto generate /dev everytime... I mean so what if there ar a bunch of entries for stuff you don't use? They take up basically no space
[17:44:00] Filip^: on the other hand, it makes replacing with a backup easier, right?
[17:44:00] Filip^: I mean, if you are restoring an entire system
[17:44:00] psofa: i agree. especially if many drivers arent ready for that yet
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: Filip^: How ? If the /dev entries already exist, OR if hotplug autocreates one that don't exist then why rebuild the whole thing every boot ?
[17:46:00] GreyFoxx: And if you are restoring an entire system from a backup then backup /dev as well or use the base entries and hotplug could fill in the rest
[17:46:00] Filip^: well, I hadn't considered hotplug in the reasoning
[17:46:00] psofa: well as i said udev is a nice idea.the problem isnt repopulating the dev every reboot but driver support for udev isnt complete
[17:46:00] Mersault: woah... XVideo isn't being loaded by x. do I just add 'Load "xv"' to my xorg.conf?
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: psofa: I disagree, why rebuild everytime at all?
[17:48:00] psofa: thats not even an issue.They could easily fix that by writing if no hardware change use the last devices "snapshot"
[17:48:00] psofa: and i think what udev is trying to do is making installing new devices easier
[17:48:00] psofa: which isnt the case yet
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: It's an issue if you chmod/chown/mknod something to get something working but don't think to dig out and edit a file to make it persistant
[17:49:00] kormoc: psofa, it's not?
[17:49:00] GreyFoxx: and then 6 months later the box gets rebooted and your changes are gone
[17:49:00] psofa: kormoc, well when many of my drivers dont work ok with udev out of the box...
[17:49:00] GreyFoxx: automatically ADDing entries for new hardware I understand
[17:49:00] kormoc: I'm pure udev and have been for awhile, and I havn't had a single issue with hardware.
[17:49:00] GreyFoxx: but rebuilding every boot is stupid imho
[17:49:00] kormoc: psofa, what drivers?
[17:50:00] psofa: em8300
[17:50:00] psofa: and the dvb drivers
[17:50:00] psofa: i had to manually create the nodes
[17:50:00] sphing: GreyFoxx: theres nothing like rebooting and finding a problem months later, that you knew you fixed but cant remember now
[17:51:00] Mersault: okay. xvinfo says I have no adapters loaded, and thus no XVideo support enabled, but when I grep for XVideo in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it says it loaded XVideo
[17:51:00] psofa: GreyFoxx, thats easily fixable too imho... udev could remember what you did to the nodes
[17:51:00] kormoc: psofa, actually, nothing should change with them, how udev works is if the module requests a node the old way (devfs) it still gets created, it just doesn't get all the udev magic (at least, that's what I beleive)
[17:51:00] kormoc: psofa, how? that would take a lot of power monitoring all those files for changes.
[17:51:00] sphing: Mersault:
[17:52:00] sphing: Mersault: look at the line number where it says its loaded... then fire up a text editor and look a couple lines under
[17:52:00] sphing: that happened to me... then like 2 lines later said, error: unloading
[17:52:00] psofa: well the nodes didnt get created for me
[17:52:00] psofa: :(
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: Me either
[17:52:00] sphing: kormoc: no it wouldnt
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[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: I have a script that runs at boot that creates my em8300 and dvb related //dev entries
[17:53:00] Mersault: sphing: no unloading statements. looks fine to me
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: I didn't care to go digging or troubleshooting more than that
[17:53:00] Juski: jono: you still around fella?
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[17:53:00] Juski: hi everyone else btw :)
[17:53:00] jono: Juski, yep :)
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: and I've had entries in my udev config files completely ignored during the next boot so I don't trust it :)
[17:53:00] kormoc: sphing, ooh? Permission changes, ownership, and group would be good with fam, but what about symlinking and creating new structure?
[17:53:00] Juski: jono: you get anywhere with that little snafu?
[17:53:00] Mersault: sphing, in fact, no EE errors at all, and only two WW warnings, that are totally unrelated
[17:54:00] ** poop sits on hold with Apple support **
[17:54:00] jono: Juski, havent had time to look at it really, been doing some work
[17:54:00] Juski: work? wossat? ;)
[17:54:00] jono: heh
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[17:54:00] jono: I am developing my public speaking skills
[17:55:00] Juski: jono: what was the error again? I need to help solve it coz it's something I'm gonna run into when I get a 150 card
[17:55:00] kahuna_: hi gentlemen.
[17:55:00] jono: cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
[17:55:00] Juski: kahuna_: we get ladies in here too ya know
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[17:57:00] kahuna_: Really.
[17:57:00] ** kahuna_ looks around. **
[17:57:00] Juski: jono: found a thread on the ivtv dev mailing list
[17:57:00] Huggy_: ive got DVB-ST card entry in mythtv setup now
[17:57:00] Huggy_: for dvb card 0
[17:58:00] Juski: mentions something about tveeprom having a specific ivtv version
[17:59:00] kahuna_: jono: What version of ivtv?
[17:59:00] Juski: ahh jono: apparently you might be using the ivtv tveeprom module, when you can just use the kernel tveeprom version
[18:00:00] jono: ahhh
[18:00:00] jono: lemme check
[18:01:00] jono: ivtv -.4.0
[18:01:00] jono: oops
[18:01:00] jono: 0.4.0
[18:01:00] jono: I think ivtv docs say to rename the kernel tveeprom though
[18:02:00] Juski: ugh
[18:02:00] kahuna_: Yah. The wiki tells you exactly what to do
[18:02:00] Mersault: How do I get XVideo to load with X? mplayer says I don't have it loaded, and xvinfo says there's no adapters present, but when I check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it says it's loaded fine.
[18:02:00] Juski: the thing is, kahuna_, jono has added a DVB card to his setup, which is cx88 based, so I think he needs the kernel tveeprom too
[18:03:00] kahuna_: Doh. What a pain/
[18:04:00] Juski: and from what I understand it won't just be as simple as renaming files
[18:04:00] kahuna_: Well Ivtv 0.5.x uses the standard v4l modules
[18:04:00] Juski: I was gonna say earlier.. when ivtv & v4l merge this will be a thing of the past
[18:05:00] jono: when is 0.5.0 out?
[18:05:00] kahuna_: But you'll need at least 2.6.14
[18:06:00] kahuna_: 0.5.0 is the unstable version right now. I think 0.5.1 is out too.
[18:06:00] kahuna_: It might be worth a try
[18:06:00] jono: when does it stabilise?
[18:07:00] jams: hahaha
[18:07:00] jams: thats a great question
[18:07:00] jono: right I need to run, recording lugradio tonight
[18:07:00] Juski: have fun jono :)
[18:08:00] jono: Juski, cheers, I will be back tomorrow to try and fix this problem
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[18:17:00] poop: Dell wants to sell me a pvr-500MCE for $133.16 shipped.
[18:17:00] poop: Now the only question is if I want to buy it.
[18:17:00] poop: ISTR something funny about the inputs and their usage.
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[18:19:00] sphing: lol 'Dell wants to sell me'
[18:20:00] poop: And the fact that I'd need 2 STBs is offputting
[18:20:00] poop: But there's no adding a second 150 to this machine.
[18:20:00] poop: decisions, decisions
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[18:21:00] sphing: poop you could always get a 500 and only use one stb until you get a second stb
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[18:27:00] poop: I could always just sell the 150 later, or put it in another machine for a second teevee.
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[18:27:00] poop: I wouldn't be doing much streaming over wireless though.
[18:28:00] poop: How's the tuner look on the pvr cards?
[18:28:00] poop: It looks like crap on my bttv (composite is much clearer)
[18:30:00] kahuna_: poop: So install a wired network then :P
[18:30:00] kahuna_: My PVR-150 looks really clean.
[18:31:00] kahuna_: But I don't use an STB
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[18:37:00] Mersault: oooh, check out this when I try and check out my program guide: *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x08796ec8 ***
[18:39:00] poop: How long does a corpse stay juicy?
[18:39:00] poop: woops
[18:39:00] sphing: HAHA
[18:39:00] poop: talk about a need for context
[18:40:00] sphing: i think im gonna submit that to bash
[18:41:00] poop: That's not good.
[18:42:00] sphing: http://www.bash.org/?590778
[18:42:00] Krazylegz: "Quote #590778 is pending moderation."
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[18:43:00] sphing: yea... but thats the reference number when it gets approved
[18:43:00] poop: My new G5 fan is on the way!
[18:43:00] poop: damn squeaking bastard
[18:43:00] kormoc: sphing, http://www.openbash.org
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[18:45:00] psofa: i repeat -> can an amd barton 3000+ with an nvdia 5200 (xvmc) do 1920x1080 hdtv with no problem?
[18:45:00] psofa: the documentation isnt quite clear on it
[18:46:00] poop: psofa: should be alright
[18:46:00] psofa: nice :D
[18:46:00] psofa: is there a gfx card you can recommend me ?
[18:47:00] psofa: ive come down to a cheap fx5200 fanless with tvout
[18:47:00] psofa: adn dvi
[18:47:00] poop: FX5200 is what I'm using with my athlon64/3000+. It uses about 40% during playback with XvMC.
[18:47:00] psofa: doing what
[18:47:00] poop: 1080i
[18:48:00] psofa: isnt that high?
[18:48:00] poop: That's pretty high-res *shrug*
[18:48:00] poop: Seems low to me.
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[18:48:00] psofa: ill hit it then
[18:48:00] psofa: :D
[18:49:00] psofa: you use it with dvi right?
[18:49:00] poop: yeah
[18:49:00] psofa: were there any incompatibilities?
[18:49:00] psofa: with your tv and such
[18:49:00] poop: not with my projector. I think nvidia actually has a list of displays it works with.
[18:52:00] poop: More likely the card mfgr
[18:53:00] psofa: have you tried the svideo?
[18:53:00] psofa: bcause im gonna use it until i get a new tv
[18:53:00] poop: yeah, it's decent (a lot of people use the FX5200 for myth)
[18:53:00] psofa: particularly ovescan
[18:54:00] poop: very tweakable
[18:54:00] psofa: nice
[18:54:00] psofa: the gforce2 one was a headache
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[19:01:00] kahuna_: Anyone use a FX5200 PCI card?
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[19:02:00] kahuna_: I'm thinking about getting one. This integrated ATI card is the pits.
[19:02:00] poop: no AGP slot?
[19:02:00] Curus: When I try to scan channels in mythtv-setup with a dvb-c card, it just sits there at 10% forever...
[19:02:00] kahuna_: Nope. It's a sff PC with 2 pci slots.
[19:03:00] kahuna_: the integrated card is APG but built in/
[19:03:00] poop: Those suck.
[19:03:00] ** poop shows off his third pci slot **
[19:03:00] kahuna_: It looks nice. But yah, 1 AGP and 2 PCI slots would be ideal for me.
[19:03:00] poop: The LC10M would actually take a full-size board though.
[19:04:00] poop: I imagine this case will go through several motherboards.
[19:04:00] kahuna_: Before I buy I'd like to find some people who have experience with FX5200 PCI.
[19:04:00] poop: I finally put it into the living room. It matches my receiver quite nicely.
[19:04:00] kahuna_: And possible PCI bus contention issues.
[19:05:00] kahuna_: LC10M? I'll have to check that out
[19:05:00] kahuna_: Wow. That's the case to end all cases.
[19:06:00] poop: not even close
[19:06:00] kahuna_: why's that?
[19:06:00] poop: I can't remember who makes that $500 htpc case
[19:07:00] poop: no 7" touchscreen
[19:07:00] poop: no knobs
[19:07:00] kahuna_: I saw something like that in last month's CPU
[19:07:00] poop: I wanted easy-access to usb w/o a door though
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[19:08:00] kahuna_: What form factor mobo does the lc10m take?
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[19:08:00] kahuna_: Ok. I see ATX and Micro ATX
[19:09:00] poop: VFD is so much fun
[19:10:00] poop: Look at the LC18
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[19:11:00] kahuna_: that's a nice case
[19:12:00] poop: $650 nice?
[19:12:00] kahuna_: I think my wife's gonna hate me.
[19:12:00] kahuna_: That kind of nice :)
[19:13:00] poop: I think the LC16M looks really sharp, but I'm not a big fan of doors
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[19:16:00] kahuna_: I might sell my pundit-r.
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[19:25:00] Krazylegz: kahuna_: Why sell?
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[19:25:00] kahuna_: I don't like it that much.
[19:26:00] kahuna_: Because of the integrated vid card
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[19:48:00] poop: It's a delicate balance between form and flexibility
[19:48:00] gnoob: I think i should get mythTV installed. I am running tvtime right now.
[19:48:00] poop: There are cheap htpc cases though (<$100)
[19:52:00] gnoob: Is it best to have a myth backend connected to multiple front ends? Or just lots of independant servers?
[19:52:00] sphing: gnoob: multiple frontends
[19:53:00] sphing: if you have multiple frontends that each have tuners, you can have then be slave backends
[19:53:00] poop: gnoob: It's pretty subjective, based on the hardware you have/want, your network, physical layout, etc.
[19:54:00] gnoob: My parents have two TV that would need a recorder.
[19:54:00] gnoob: would it be feasible to run it over a wireless network?
[19:55:00] sphing: a/b/g?
[19:55:00] gnoob: Would be a least the 54mbps one.
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[19:56:00] sphing: i would image so... b isnt quite fast enough, so I think g would be smooth at least for playback
[19:57:00] gnoob: so the front ends each need a TV card or all the TV and recording is done at the backend?
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[19:57:00] ** _willcooke_ was watching livetv over wifi-b just fine **
[19:57:00] sphing: if i'm next to my ap its fine
[19:58:00] sphing: if im in my room, theres a studder
[19:58:00] poop: gnoob: a front-end only needs a video card and network connection
[19:58:00] ** _willcooke_ is using dvb cards though **
[19:58:00] SuperMan: hey all, questions here, got mythtv installed and working on Ubuntu, the remote works.. and i can view tv.. but i cant hear anything.. any ideas?
[19:58:00] sphing: SuperMan: does sound work outside of myth
[19:58:00] _willcooke_: SuperMan, maybe ESD is getting in the way?
[19:58:00] SuperMan: no, esd is disabled.. works fine outside of myth
[19:58:00] gnoob: poop; cool. I think a back end with one or two cards and then front ends would work best for here then.
[19:59:00] poop: Myth can use esd anyway.
[19:59:00] SuperMan: volume is jacked up
[19:59:00] _willcooke_: SuperMan, Using ALSA for audio in myth?
[19:59:00] sphing: SuperMan: are you using alsa
[19:59:00] poop: gnoob: Run some tests over your network first :)
[19:59:00] SuperMan: yes, hte ac3 thing is disabled
[19:59:00] SuperMan: yes im usingt also
[19:59:00] SuperMan: alsa**
[19:59:00] sphing: are you using alsa in myth?
[19:59:00] gnoob: poop; tests like what?
[19:59:00] SuperMan: how can i check?
[20:00:00] gnoob: we actually don't have wireless yet.
[20:00:00] poop: gnoob: play some media files from a network share
[20:00:00] sphing: in your sound setup does it have alsa:
[20:00:00] gnoob: cool, will remember that.
[20:00:00] SuperMan: let me check
[20:00:00] poop: SuperMan: You would have had to type something like ALSA:default for the playback device.
[20:00:00] poop: And then you need OSS to get a mixer.
[20:00:00] sphing: gnoob: so two frontends with one backend sounds like it might be the way to go
[20:01:00] poop: Is anyone working on proper ALSA support for mythtv?
[20:01:00] SuperMan: poop, i never did
[20:01:00] sphing: SuperMan: so you're using oss
[20:01:00] SuperMan: where do i check to see if im using alsa at?
[20:01:00] SuperMan: in myth
[20:01:00] sphing: in the sound setup...... the device is what?
[20:01:00] SuperMan: /dev/dsp
[20:01:00] gnoob: cool, I hope I can talk them into doing something my mom keep complainging about stuff she wants and i Keep telling here this woud do it all.
[20:02:00] sphing: SuperMan: change that to alsa:/dev/dsp
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: poop: What do you mean by proper alsa support ?
[20:02:00] poop: SuperMan: Alsa is the sound driver, but mythtv uses OSS by default, which exists as a compatibility layer in alsa.
[20:02:00] SuperMan: ok sec
[20:02:00] SuperMan: ahh
[20:02:00] poop: Grey: Support for native mixers and recording from alsa.
[20:02:00] sphing: SuperMan: i think its actually ALSA:/dev/dsp
[20:02:00] sphing: (all caps)
[20:03:00] SuperMan: i tried the capital one.. i tdidnt work
[20:03:00] SuperMan: asked about continuing with no audio
[20:03:00] GreyFoxx: I just use ALSA:default for both sound device and mixer and it works perfectly. The recording stuff I don't know as I've ditched cards that would require that years ago
[20:05:00] SuperMan: yea ALSA: /dev/dsp doesnt work
[20:05:00] SuperMan: err ALSA:/dev/dsp
[20:05:00] poop: ALSA:default
[20:05:00] GreyFoxx: "ALSA:default" should do it
[20:05:00] GreyFoxx: in both output and mixer fields
[20:06:00] poop: I'll have to try it for the mixer.
[20:06:00] SuperMan: and device?
[20:06:00] poop: default is the device, alsa style
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[20:07:00] SuperMan: ALSA:default doesnt work
[20:07:00] GreyFoxx: it 's muted is it ?
[20:07:00] SuperMan: asks me if i want to continue without audio
[20:07:00] poop: SuperMan: Maybe alsa support isn't compiled in.
[20:08:00] GreyFoxx: ahhh
[20:08:00] SuperMan: well ill use oss ifi have to.. how can i tell the os to use oss instead of alsa?
[20:08:00] poop: DIEZ OSS
[20:08:00] GreyFoxx: just keep using /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer to tell myth to use OSS
[20:08:00] GreyFoxx: and try one of the hundreds of different mixer control apps to make sure it's just not muted
[20:08:00] poop: SuperMan: Make sure snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss are loaded (lsmod)
[20:09:00] GreyFoxx: and of course ensure your cables are connected correctly
[20:09:00] SuperMan: ok one sec
[20:09:00] Beirdo: poop, that's only for OSS emulation
[20:09:00] SuperMan: well the lsmod shows what poop said
[20:09:00] poop: Beirdo: We're not cruel enough to make him _actually_ use OSS
[20:09:00] Beirdo: OSS++
[20:09:00] sphing: SuperMan: you just told me it worked from outside myth... so the cables would have to be plugged in no?
[20:10:00] SuperMan: right
[20:10:00] SuperMan: it does work outside of myth
[20:10:00] GreyFoxx: sorry I didn't notice that
[20:10:00] SuperMan: and i dont care if i have to use OSS
[20:10:00] SuperMan: ill use it
[20:10:00] poop: SuperMan: Did you say what capture card you have?
[20:10:00] SuperMan: no.. but its a PVR-150
[20:10:00] SuperMan: happachue or something
[20:10:00] poop: SuperMan: only in rare instances would you have to use native OSS
[20:11:00] poop: SuperMan: Play with an external mixer during mythtv playback.
[20:11:00] GreyFoxx: Only reason I have ALSA output enabled in myth was to test something and I didn't bother putting it back :)
[20:11:00] praet: SuperMan how is the audio coming in?
[20:11:00] SuperMan: off of an antenna
[20:12:00] praet: coax or the MCE rca cables
[20:12:00] SuperMan: coax
[20:12:00] SuperMan: its for a project for college
[20:12:00] praet: you try playing live tv, then open up a mixer and fiddle
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[20:13:00] SuperMan: what mixer? like volume control?
[20:13:00] praet: right
[20:13:00] SuperMan: ok.. use /dev/dsp?
[20:13:00] praet: or the alsa mixer
[20:13:00] praet: try that
[20:13:00] praet: are you in fedora?
[20:14:00] SuperMan: im in ubuntu
[20:15:00] poop: ububu
[20:16:00] praet: amixer set Master,0 100%,100% unmute
[20:17:00] SuperMan: no luck
[20:17:00] SuperMan: still no sound
[20:17:00] praet: amixer set Capture,0 100%,100% captur
[20:17:00] praet: alsactl store
[20:17:00] poop: SuperMan: Start mythfrontend from a terminal and watch the errors when audio fails.
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[20:18:00] SuperMan: ok
[20:19:00] SuperMan: no errors
[20:19:00] SuperMan: only thing it sais about audio is this
[20:19:00] SuperMan: Opening audio device ' /dev/dsp '
[20:19:00] SuperMan: Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp
[20:19:00] moonie-work: oss?
[20:19:00] moonie-work: why not alsa?
[20:20:00] SuperMan: how can i determine what my soundcar is using as a device?
[20:20:00] poop: SuperMan: Open up another OSS app and try that (e.g. xmms with oss output plug-in)
[20:20:00] poop: It seems a waste to continue dicking around with OSS long after it died though.
[20:21:00] moonie-work: SuperMan: I would seriously suggest using alsa, if you still have trouble the guys in #alsa are very good
[20:21:00] SuperMan: i want to just get it working.. i dont care about oss or anything
[20:21:00] SuperMan: i was just saying what it was doing
[20:23:00] poop: SuperMan: can you ldd =mythfrontend | grep asound ?
[20:24:00] sphing: SuperMan: have you tried inputting from your 150 outside of myth to see if you're getting sound from the card
[20:25:00] SuperMan: no i dont know if ican
[20:25:00] sphing: in a console
[20:25:00] sphing: try cat /dev/video >> test.mpg
[20:25:00] sphing: then kill it after a few secs... and fire up mplayer/xine to see if you get sound from the test.mpg
[20:25:00] SuperMan: /dev/video no such file or directory
[20:26:00] sphing: whatever the device is
[20:26:00] SuperMan: poop, that command you gave a few moments ago didnt work
[20:26:00] SuperMan: im not sure what my device is
[20:26:00] sphing: ls -l /dev/video*
[20:26:00] poop: SuperMan: ldd /path/to/mythfrontend | grep asound
[20:27:00] SuperMan: libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb70ca000)
[20:27:00] SuperMan: thats what i get
[20:27:00] poop: SuperMan: Does aplay -l give you anything?
[20:27:00] SuperMan: a ton of stuff
[20:28:00] SuperMan: card 0: A5451 [ALI 5451], device 1: ALI 5451 modem [ALI 5451 modem]
[20:28:00] SuperMan: Subdevices: 0/1
[20:28:00] SuperMan: Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[20:28:00] poop: SuperMan: So you're definitely using alsa.
[20:28:00] poop: Don't paste shit.
[20:28:00] SuperMan: sorry
[20:28:00] sphing: SuperMan: did you test the card?
[20:28:00] SuperMan: im working on it
[20:28:00] poop: SuperMan: Do that thing sphing suggested and then mplayer -ao alsa foo.mpg
[20:30:00] SuperMan: im working oni t
[20:30:00] SuperMan: i have to install mplayer
[20:31:00] poop: You'll want it anyway.
[20:31:00] SuperMan: yea im installing it now
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[20:32:00] Juski: OMG I should check out bash.org more often
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[20:33:00] sphing: Juski: ?
[20:33:00] SuperMan: well i tried one oft he many video devices i have fo some reason
[20:33:00] SuperMan: and it played back something recorded.. but no audio
[20:33:00] ivor: Juski: nah you end up wasting soo much time.
[20:33:00] SuperMan: just video
[20:34:00] sphing: how did you test it before?
[20:34:00] SuperMan: i just did what you told meis all
[20:34:00] Juski: ivor: I've been wasting too much time already.. may aswell have a laugh at the same time :)
[20:34:00] sphing: SuperMan: but you said sound worked outside of myth
[20:34:00] poop: SuperMan: Fire up alsamixer and start unmuting channels like Master and PCM
[20:35:00] SuperMan: they are unmuted
[20:35:00] SuperMan: i can goto a website soundboard and sound works fine
[20:35:00] poop: SuperMan: Can you confirm that alsa is working by playing an mp3 or something with mplayer -ao alsa?
[20:38:00] dopez: i anyone able to use DVB-T with 0.18.1, whatever i try i keep getting errors about "No PIDS set" and i should check my channel setup (and those seem fine, scanning works and finds + adds the channels)
[20:38:00] SuperMan: working on it
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[20:39:00] SuperMan: poop, it plays an mp3 just fine
[20:40:00] SuperMan: when i did video0 it took it from the tv card.. the video.. just no sound
[20:40:00] poop: SuperMan: awesome, now you just need to fix ivtv
[20:41:00] SuperMan: fix ivtv? eh?
[20:41:00] poop: SuperMan: ALSA:default as the output device should work once that's fixed
[20:41:00] SuperMan: hmm
[20:41:00] ** poop has no ivtv **
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[20:42:00] SuperMan: so.. im stuck now..
[20:42:00] SuperMan: any ideas
[20:43:00] sphing: SuperMan: whats the dmesg output for ivtv
[20:43:00] poop: Have the discs started degrading yet?
[20:43:00] SuperMan: a crapload of stuff
[20:43:00] poop: woops
[20:44:00] sphing: SuperMan: anything on audio...?
[20:45:00] SuperMan: [4294690.535000] ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffer s (2048KB total)
[20:45:00] SuperMan: thats all i have for audio
[20:46:00] sphing: ... i'm out of ideas... but we know its an ivtv issue
[20:46:00] SuperMan: so your sure of that then? that for some resaon makes me feel better at least
[20:47:00] sphing: well audio works for everything except for when you input from video0
[20:48:00] SuperMan: i wish ivtv was in the breezy repository
[20:49:00] SuperMan: well i appreicate all of your help.. ill continue my work later
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[21:10:00] praet: would sporadic reboots be coused by a bad power supply?
[21:10:00] praet: ive already swapped out all the ram
[21:12:00] Juski: praet: could be caused by a dodgy PSU
[21:13:00] praet: argh
[21:13:00] Juski: I said _could_ be
[21:13:00] laga: hi Juski
[21:13:00] Juski: hiya laga
[21:13:00] praet: its a 300w
[21:13:00] Juski: praet: is this the kind of PSU that the case came with?
[21:13:00] praet: ya
[21:13:00] praet: this machine was donated to me
[21:13:00] Juski: and what hardware do you have, praet?
[21:14:00] praet: p3 1.0b, p6stmt mobo, 512 ram
[21:14:00] Juski: hdds?
[21:14:00] Juski: how's it going laga?
[21:14:00] laga: Juski: it's going well so far. how's you?
[21:14:00] Juski: tired as
[21:14:00] praet: wd 60gb... but it even reboots when i boot off a cd
[21:15:00] Juski: praet: do you have a voltmeter?
[21:15:00] praet: would overheating cause that
[21:15:00] moonie-work: usually 3 things cause those kinds of problems praet, heat, ram or psu
[21:15:00] praet: oh ok
[21:15:00] moonie-work: praet: yes it can
[21:15:00] laga: Juski: have you seen coume's posting?
[21:15:00] praet: well its not ram because it just happened again
[21:16:00] sphing: praet: could be bad ram..
[21:16:00] Juski: laga: yeh I was just gonna ask you if you had any ideas for another English mod
[21:17:00] praet: the cpu is at 30' C
[21:17:00] Juski: praet: I doubt it's a cooling issue then (or lack of cooling)
[21:17:00] laga: Juski: let me figure out my password for nickserv here and then move to a /query ;)
[21:18:00] praet: well would a 250w psu be fine, i'm going to add 2 pci cards, pvr-150 and mx4000
[21:18:00] Juski: depends on the PSU
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[21:18:00] Juski: if it's a true 250W PSU it should be ok
[21:19:00] Juski: but cheap ones say 'x watts' and in real life they aren't – in terms of useful power they can deliver
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[21:20:00] praet: ill try looking it up
[21:20:00] Juski: praet: look on the motherboard.. there will be some capacitors there (cylindrical components standing on the board).. have a look at them to see if they look swollen at all... and check that the indentation on top is not bulging upwards
[21:22:00] laga: Juski: can you just do an /msg nickserv set unfiltered on ? i don't know how to retrieve my password ;)
[21:22:00] Juski: laga: there ya go
[21:22:00] ** Juski awaits lots of cyber **
[21:23:00] praet: cpu temp up to 39'. the capacitators dont look too bad. a bit of upward bulging
[21:23:00] Juski: even a bit can be a bad sign, praet
[21:24:00] praet: the top flat area has an X cut that the pints in the middle are pushed out a bit
[21:24:00] Juski: as the capacitors bulge & dry out, their internal resistance lowers, which basically means that as they age, they get closer to being a short circuit – and this puts undue load on the PSU
[21:24:00] praet: *points
[21:24:00] Juski: mebbe a bad motherboard then
[21:24:00] praet: its 2 of the biggest ones that are the worst
[21:24:00] praet: is this a normal thing?
[21:25:00] Juski: it's very common, if that's what you mean
[21:26:00] praet: right
[21:27:00] Juski: one of my own boards went that way, and I was about to throw it out when I found www.badcaps.net
[21:27:00] laga: i had the caps of an epox board die on me. stupid overclocking. i have to admit that i modified the board to give me more voltage ;)
[21:28:00] laga: Juski: looks like i still can't send you private messages. sad.
[21:29:00] jams: guess somebody isn't registered
[21:29:00] sphing: i love bash.org
[21:29:00] Juski: bash.org has had me laughing like I haven't laughed in ages tonight
[21:30:00] praet: would a voltmeter reveal bad caps?
[21:30:00] laga: praet: only if you know where to take readings. ;)
[21:30:00] laga: bash.org rocks
[21:30:00] laga: jams: that would be me, but i forgot my password ;)
[21:30:00] Juski: user: a smiley paints a thousand words
[21:30:00] Juski: user: :)
[21:30:00] praet: http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/kt7/image005.png << looks just like that
[21:30:00] Juski: user has quit IRC (excess flood)
[21:31:00] Juski: you *know* you're a geek when you find stuff like that funny
[21:31:00] praet: hehe
[21:32:00] sphing: Juski: some of these are so funny
[21:33:00] Krazylegz: PVR-350 is on sale at Comp-U-Plus for $102 after MIR.
[21:35:00] Beirdo: rebates are scamarific
[21:36:00] praet: everyone gives them to me to fill out and collect
[21:37:00] Krazylegz: Fine Beirdo, then don't buy one. :-P
[21:38:00] praet: whats teh cheapest mobo/cpu to handle a new mythbox
[21:38:00] Krazylegz: I like my Pundit-R.
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[21:43:00] _willcooke_: awight Juski!
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[21:45:00] _willcooke_: Juski, My mate's just been showing me Final Scratch
[21:47:00] Juski: ugh... FS is ok, but it needs decks
[21:47:00] _willcooke_: Pretty amazing though! It looks like linux underneath
[21:48:00] Juski: the Denon DNS5000 is where it's at now.. played on one a while back at a DJ show.. closest thing to real wax I've ever used
[21:48:00] ** _willcooke_ googles **
[21:48:00] Juski: _willcooke_: there are loads of Linux DJ things now.. even peeps making their own controllers
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[21:50:00] _willcooke_: Sweet! I think I'll stick with my cheap-and-cheerful Gemini's, I hardly use them anymore any way
[21:52:00] ** Juski loves his Denon DN2500F **
[21:53:00] Juski: but my Technics are in the attic now, where they're gonna stay
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[21:56:00] _willcooke_: Juski, a couple of years ago I'd have offered you plenty dollar for your techics, but I seem to have grown out of it now!
[22:00:00] ** Juski grew out of being treated like shit by customers about 3 years ago.. hence the hanging up of the headphones **
[22:00:00] kormoc: I'm really into mindstorms lately
[22:04:00] _willcooke_: Juksi, What sort of stuff do you play mainly? We should do something at LUGRLive!
[22:07:00] Juski: _willcooke_: I played all sorts of gash in my last venue. love funky house though.. and not all that filtered disco looped shit either
[22:07:00] Juski: I'll pop a mix on my webserver again soon :)
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[22:08:00] Juski: /loads Vegas
[22:09:00] urfage: hey guys, i'm having some trouble transcoding my recordings
[22:09:00] tanq: i'm having some trouble getting the pvr 150 model 1045 working
[22:09:00] tanq: heh..
[22:09:00] urfage: if i go to media -> watch recordings -> then select the show and for job options choose transcode
[22:09:00] urfage: the job is queued but fails
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[22:10:00] Juski: urfage: have you ever gone into the utils/setup > setup > tv > recording profiles > transcoders setup page?
[22:11:00] urfage: Juski: yeah
[22:11:00] urfage: i modified the High Quality transcoder to use mpeg4 and enabled the de-interlace options
[22:11:00] urfage: [mpeg @ 0x47275360]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !
[22:11:00] urfage: <--- this shows up in my log file
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[22:14:00] _willcooke_: Juski, yeah a mix would be good. I quite like my (for want of a better word) "disco"-house, so we might have a few records in common.
[22:14:00] Juski: urfage: hmmm... no idea I'm afraid
[22:14:00] urfage: hmm okie, i'll experiment w/ some other codecs video/audio
[22:14:00] ** Juski renders a mix **
[22:16:00] ** Beirdo renders some pork **
[22:16:00] Beirdo: mmmm, lard
[22:16:00] Baylink: Yum
[22:16:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:16:00] Beirdo: anyone want some snow?
[22:17:00] Beirdo: supposed to get 6–8 inches overnight here
[22:17:00] Beirdo: come and get it :)
[22:17:00] laga: nope, sorry, had enough of that a few weeks ago ;)
[22:17:00] Baylink: Ship me some, 'k?
[22:17:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:17:00] Beirdo: that's what my fiancee said
[22:18:00] Baylink: UPS Next Day Melter
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[22:21:00] cosmo_: I want to persue a diskless option, but the only method I have to do this is with a minimal etherboot image on floppy or an ancient hard drive. Is it possible to, through shell scripts, completely kill the power to a disk drive after root is mounted?
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[22:21:00] kormoc: cosmo_, or just buy a cdrom drive and use knoppmyth?
[22:22:00] cosmo_: hmm, will the cd spindown after boot?
[22:22:00] kormoc: cosmo_, it should, aye
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[22:22:00] kormoc: drives are much harder to get to spin down and stay down
[22:22:00] kormoc: knoppmyth loads into ram and stays there I beleive
[22:22:00] cosmo_: I dont even want a standby or spindown, but a complete power off, as if the drive werent there
[22:23:00] laga: kormoc: well, nine inch nails is not only a music group...
[22:23:00] cosmo_: so you may have an idea there with the cdrom
[22:23:00] kormoc: cosmo_, you can't really do that. Most you could ever get is power saving mode the drive goes into when not being accessed, same with a harddrive.
[22:23:00] kormoc: laga, hehe
[22:23:00] Juski: right.. time for bed. have fun peeps
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[22:24:00] tanq: i'm wondering if I should grab knoppmyth and use that instead
[22:24:00] _willcooke_: laters Juski
[22:26:00] cosmo_: kormoc, thanks
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[22:27:00] laga: i'm off to bed as well, night
[22:27:00] kormoc: nnight all
[22:27:00] tanq: hrmm
[22:27:00] tanq: anyone in here know what sync and refresh rate should be for a samsung 50" dlp tv?
[22:28:00] Beirdo: I bet Samsung does
[22:29:00] poop: I know it wasn't hard to find a modeline for my projector.
[22:29:00] poop: I used some fancy web-based search site.
[22:31:00] Beirdo: google?
[22:32:00] tanq: yeah i have the manual here somewhere..
[22:32:00] tanq: i'm sure it says in there.. yeah i'm being lazy..
[22:33:00] tanq: i guess i need to get this working before worrying about that
[22:33:00] tanq: heh
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[22:41:00] tanq: ok..
[22:42:00] tanq: so..
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[22:43:00] tanq: http://pastebin.ca/33827
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[22:43:00] tanq: this is my modules.conf excerpt for my card and lirc modules
[22:44:00] tanq: do these look wrong for a pvr 150
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[22:44:00] hfb: I'd like to the this. dmesg|grep ivtv
[22:45:00] tanq: http://pastebin.ca/33828
[22:46:00] tanq: oh fyi..
[22:46:00] hfb: Check to see how many tuner.ko files
[22:47:00] tanq: the tuner error happened after it didnt wokr
[22:47:00] tanq: and the tuner.ko file exists
[22:47:00] hfb: Check to see how many tuner.ko files you have.
[22:47:00] tanq: under lib/modules/.../ivtv
[22:47:00] hfb: find /lib/modules/yourkernelversion/ -name tuner.ko -print
[22:47:00] tanq: and is renamed tuner.ko.HIDE in the actual kernel drivers
[22:48:00] tanq: i think that fails because of my modules.conf
[22:48:00] tanq: i have the option tuner= which it doesnt recognize
[22:49:00] hfb: Actually, what about tveeprom.ko?
[22:49:00] tanq: what about it?
[22:50:00] tanq: same as tuner.ko
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[22:51:00] hfb: Just curious.
[22:51:00] Ediehow: what are the chances of xvmc support or mpeg2 hardware decoding for ati in linux?:)
[22:52:00] tanq: and i loaded tuner.ko
[22:52:00] hfb: I was looking at your modules.conf file. What happens if you comment your entried out and load the modules.
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[22:52:00] tanq: which modules MUST be loaded for the pvr 150
[22:52:00] hfb: You're setting the tuner to 2 when it should be 50.
[22:52:00] Ediehow: you are trying to use pvr 150mce?
[22:53:00] tanq: mce is 1062 i can get that to work..
[22:53:00] tanq: but i returned it
[22:53:00] Ediehow: i use a pvr 150mce
[22:53:00] tanq: and plugged in the 1045 with no changes
[22:53:00] tanq: and it won't work
[22:53:00] hfb: But it looks like your module entries are wrong.
[22:53:00] hfb: I would just comment them out.
[22:54:00] tanq: interesting..
[22:54:00] tanq: now i get mplayer with a black screen
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[22:55:00] tanq: so modprobe tuner tuner=50 right or is it type=50
[22:55:00] hfb: I would start with no entries and see what happens.
[22:56:00] tanq: ok..
[22:56:00] tanq: so what do i have to load exactly though.
[22:56:00] tanq: ivtv, tuner,
[22:56:00] hfb: I would start with just ivtv
[22:58:00] tanq: ok it works now
[22:58:00] tanq: now lets see about lirc
[23:00:00] tanq: lirc before ivtv or vice versa?
[23:01:00] hfb: Not sure, but I would assume it does not matter.
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[23:01:00] hfb: Not sure because I've always used homebrew receivers. I've never used the supplied hardware , but I would assume it does not matter.
[23:02:00] tanq: well i'm about to test the remote real quick
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[23:13:00] hfb: tanq, How is it going?
[23:15:00] tanq: trying to get lirc working again.
[23:16:00] hfb: I have not used lirc in a while. Did you try some of the supplied programs for testing?
[23:16:00] hfb: mode2 comes to mind.
[23:16:00] tanq: yeah the last test failed..
[23:16:00] tanq: i think it might work now
[23:16:00] tanq: ivtv has to be loaded before lirc
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[23:19:00] Wabush: Hi everybody! Anyone here using a Twinhan1020a DVB-S?
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[23:21:00] praet: ./msg hostserv request aka.praetorian.interweb
[23:21:00] praet: /msg hostserv on
[23:21:00] praet: yikes
[23:22:00] tanq: damn..
[23:22:00] tanq: lirc is giving me trouble now
[23:22:00] tanq: if one is working the other isnt
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[23:24:00] tanq: ok i used to have /dev/lirc0
[23:24:00] tanq: now its /dev/lircd ?
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[23:24:00] Ediehow: is there any way to get xvmc or some kind of hardware decoding for radeon 9600?
[23:24:00] Wabush: I have questions about using "scan" to define my channels.conf list... I know it's before Mythtv installation, sorry, but maybe someone can help me! I'm using a Twinhan 1020a DVB-S with Ubuntu 5.10 (kernel 2.6.12, now at 2.6.14). I can only scan half of the transponders...
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[23:33:00] IA-Outdoors: how do I find out if my directtv d-10 300 box will work via irblaster?
[23:34:00] Wabush: may be I'm not in the right channel for my scan issue... Anyone can point me to another channel?
[23:34:00] Wabush: I just don't want to give up this time :)
[23:37:00] hfb: IA-Outdoors, Have you seen this? http://www.pdp8.net/directv/directv.shtml
[23:37:00] hfb: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005 . . . /107586.html
[23:38:00] tanq: hmm.
[23:38:00] tanq: any ideas on the lirc
[23:39:00] hfb: tanq, You had lirc configured and working before?
[23:39:00] hfb: with this remote?
[23:40:00] tanq: yeah
[23:40:00] tanq: now i can't get the /dev/ entry to come up
[23:40:00] tanq: and when i dmesg|grep lirc i see nothing
[23:40:00] tanq: lsmod show it loaded
[23:41:00] hfb: And you loaded up lircd via command line?
[23:41:00] tanq: what do you mean?
[23:41:00] tanq: oh ywah
[23:41:00] tanq: i thought you said looked up
[23:41:00] tanq: and when i do irw lircd dies
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[23:41:00] tanq: i'm guessing because the device doesnt exist
[23:42:00] tanq: brb
[23:42:00] hfb: I have not done lirc with myth in quite a while. I would look at the myth docs. They are pretty extensive.
[23:44:00] hfb: tanq, First check if the device works.
[23:44:00] hfb: run mode2 from a console.
[23:44:00] hfb: and start pressing buttons on the remote.
[23:44:00] hfb: and then see if you have any activity.
[23:45:00] tanq: it can't work because there is no device for it
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[23:47:00] tanq: i just did a mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0 to create it again
[23:47:00] tanq: but i'm not seeing it :/
[23:48:00] hfb: Are you on that machine now?
[23:48:00] tanq: yeah
[23:48:00] hfb: Yeah, I was about to mention creating it with mknod
[23:49:00] hfb: type in chat with no quotes "/exec -o ls /dev/lirc* -l"
[23:49:00] hfb: crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 2005-12–15 15:19 /dev/lirc
[23:49:00] hfb: srw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2005-12–15 15:26 /dev/lircd
[23:49:00] hfb: prw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2005-12–15 15:19 /dev/lircm
[23:49:00] hfb: That is what I have.
[23:49:00] hfb: I just compiled and installed lirc.
[23:49:00] tanq: i dont have lircm
[23:49:00] tanq: i have the same permissions
[23:50:00] hfb: That should not matter.
[23:50:00] hfb: If I remember correctly that is for using a remote as a mouse.
[23:50:00] hfb: And you reloaded everything including the module?
[23:50:00] tanq: yup
[23:50:00] hfb: And you tried mode2?
[23:51:00] tanq: none of that stuff will work unless there is a device for it
[23:51:00] tanq: they all fail
[23:51:00] tanq: i'm gonna' try something crazy and reboot
[23:52:00] hfb: Agin type this in chat with no quotes "/exec -o ls /dev/lirc* -l"
[23:52:00] tanq: like i said i have the same thing except no lircm
[23:52:00] tanq: :/
[23:53:00] praet: have you tried this: /sbin/service lircd start ?
[23:53:00] ** tanq counts to 10 to clear registers **
[23:53:00] tanq: all that does is add it as a service
[23:53:00] tanq: i'm not messing with that yet
[23:53:00] praet: it should throw errors
[23:54:00] hfb: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . tart=60&
[23:55:00] hfb: Hmmm.
[23:56:00] hfb: tanq, You running FreeBSD?
[23:56:00] tanq: gentoo
[23:56:00] hfb: Yeah, I thought you said that.
[23:56:00] hfb: Which chat client are you using?

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