| Thursday, December 8th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
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| [00:09:00] | ** rjune is back ** | |
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| [00:19:00] | Weezey: | My PVR-350 is outputting video too big for my TV, how do I adjust that? |
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| [00:20:00] | darkfrog: | how do I shut down mythbackend? |
| [00:20:00] | darkfrog: | nvm. :o |
| [00:20:00] | darkfrog: | I just remembered as soon as I asked. :o |
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| [00:24:00] | zuzur: | hey weezey, this is due to the PVR sending overscan |
| [00:25:00] | zuzur: | managed to fix mythtv UI by adjusting its size in the display prefs |
| [00:25:00] | zuzur: | still looking for having X running full screen |
| [00:26:00] | zuzur: | fortunately this does not affect live TV / recorded show |
| [00:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | OT but do any of you here use any online music download site (itunes, yahoo music etc) ? |
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| [01:11:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: I knew a few people who use iTunes. |
| [01:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Why not ask in a chat channel, like your local LUG's channel? |
| [01:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, because you're not in any. :-) |
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| [01:20:00] | tanq: | i'm having trouble installing the ivtv drivers |
| [01:20:00] | tanq: | when i modprobe ivtv i get nothing |
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| [01:20:00] | tanq: | i don't even see the ivtv.o file |
| [01:20:00] | a1fa|64: | hey fellas |
| [01:20:00] | tanq: | or ivtv.ko |
| [01:21:00] | a1fa|64: | i got a problem |
| [01:21:00] | tanq: | cme too |
| [01:21:00] | a1fa|64: | it started ever since i got PVR-500 |
| [01:21:00] | a1fa|64: | when i use guide to navigate and tune into a channel |
| [01:21:00] | a1fa|64: | the audio lags, and video skipps |
| [01:22:00] | a1fa|64: | and now video skips constantly |
| [01:22:00] | purplefrog: | I decided I would try to configure mythtv for ALSA, because I think that sending audio to /dev/dsp is stone-age (and I could be wrong). But when I set the sound output to ALSA:default, my mixer setting triggers a "no such file or directory" whether I set it to ALSA:default or /dev/sound/mixer. |
| [01:23:00] | purplefrog: | I can't find the correct setting in http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| [01:23:00] | Chutt: | try just 'default' |
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| [01:24:00] | Chutt: | and for 2 channel audio, there's really no harm to using oss – the API is _much_ simpler. |
| [01:24:00] | purplefrog: | I was hoping that with ALSA I could have two programs sending sound through the one card. |
| [01:24:00] | poop: | I think myth only barely does ALSA |
| [01:24:00] | tanq: | hey Chutt is there some trick I don't know about for ivtv. man i followed the README.install in the ivtv tarball and i'm not getting the same results |
| [01:25:00] | Chutt: | no. |
| [01:25:00] | purplefrog: | mixer = default made it work! |
| [01:25:00] | tanq: | ugh |
| [01:25:00] | tanq: | the driver for the pvr 150 is at ivtvdriver.org right? |
| [01:25:00] | purplefrog: | you're right again, Chutt. I can't send a sound to the card while mythtv is playing a TV show. |
| [01:26:00] | kormoc: | purplefrog, if you buy a card with hardware mixing (sb live 16 bit), you can, and the cards are cheap |
| [01:26:00] | Chutt: | i thought newer versions of alsa had dmix turned on all the time, too |
| [01:26:00] | purplefrog: | Well, this motherboard is pretty short on slots. I've relied on the built-in nforce audio. |
| [01:26:00] | tanq: | man this is driving me crazy |
| [01:26:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, it does for the cards it knows how to setup, but dmix is rather nasty at times and thus it has a lot of issues |
| [01:28:00] | tanq: | what is the purpose of ivtv_init_mpeg.bin in /lib/modules |
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| [01:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | tanq: I think they use that to initialize the when loading the ivtv moduleto allow them to send YUV data to the card |
| [01:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's part of how they added XV support to the ivtv X driver |
| [01:30:00] | a1fa|64: | sup Chutt |
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| [01:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | o_cee: ok, I'll try it on a +1hr recording |
| [01:31:00] | a1fa|64: | evn GreyFoxx |
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| [01:34:00] | a1fa|64: | i dont understand this |
| [01:34:00] | a1fa|64: | video is so choppy |
| [01:34:00] | a1fa|64: | 19:34:18 up 22:01, 1 user, load average: 2.18, 1.26, 1.50 |
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| [01:42:00] | poop: | a1fa: What video card? |
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| [01:42:00] | a1fa|64: | nvidia |
| [01:42:00] | a1fa|64: | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) |
| [01:42:00] | poop: | Are you using Xv or XvMC? |
| [01:42:00] | poop: | (and what process is munching cpu?) |
| [01:42:00] | a1fa|64: | 1.3ghz |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa|64: | i think xv |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa|64: | how do you find out |
| [01:43:00] | poop: | $ top |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa|64: | 2197 mythtv 15 0 149m 61m 24m S 23.7 24.5 27:50.21 mythfrontend |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa|64: | wow |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa|64: | 149m |
| [01:44:00] | a1fa|64: | 24% of memory and 23% cpu |
| [01:44:00] | a1fa|64: | that is just too much |
| [01:45:00] | poop: | That's not too bad. |
| [01:45:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah.. thats really bad |
| [01:45:00] | a1fa|64: | 2166 root 15 0 106m 35m 11m S 12.0 14.0 15:38.93 Xorg |
| [01:45:00] | tanq: | what version of the ivtv drivers should I be compiling? |
| [01:45:00] | a1fa|64: | considering that Xorg is only using 12% |
| [01:45:00] | tanq: | i downloaded the latest stable but make files doesnt even make ivtv.ko |
| [01:46:00] | a1fa|64: | hm |
| [01:46:00] | a1fa|64: | it installed them |
| [01:47:00] | a1fa|64: | into a wrong dir |
| [01:47:00] | tanq: | nope. |
| [01:47:00] | a1fa|64: | find / -name "ivtv.ko" |
| [01:47:00] | a1fa|64: | i had the same problem |
| [01:47:00] | tanq: | already did that |
| [01:47:00] | tanq: | doesnt exist |
| [01:47:00] | a1fa|64: | ok |
| [01:47:00] | a1fa|64: | then recompile |
| [01:47:00] | a1fa|64: | and see if there are any errors |
| [01:47:00] | tanq: | i've done it a bunch of time |
| [01:47:00] | tanq: | and no errors |
| [01:47:00] | tanq: | its weird |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | tanq, copy and paste the compile output into pastebin.ca |
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| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | tanq, start from the line where you type make and go from there |
| [01:48:00] | tanq: | ok give me a second.. i was mucking in my kernel src. |
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| [01:48:00] | tanq: | s/src/src directories |
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| [01:50:00] | a1fa|64: | poop: any idea on why is this slow |
| [01:51:00] | Weezey: | I have my nuv file and I want to make it into an mpeg or avi or something that I can use on a mac or pc. What's the best way to do that using transcode? |
| [01:51:00] | kormoc: | Weezey, nuvexport |
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| [01:52:00] | Hoxzer: | Does penis of judens shine? |
| [01:52:00] | Weezey: | kormoc: thanks |
| [01:52:00] | tanq: | i had a real low end tuner before that was working with myth but I wanted something better so i got a low end pvr |
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| [01:52:00] | tanq: | i.e the 150 |
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| [01:54:00] | Hoxzer: | :D vittu seksi.fi foorumit on herkkua pervolle |
| [01:55:00] | tanq: | kormoc: this is make http://pastebin.ca/32909 |
| [01:55:00] | tanq: | make install coming up |
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| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | tanq, and you're running 2.6.2? |
| [01:56:00] | tanq: | yeah.. |
| [01:56:00] | tanq: | i haven't updated the box in a while |
| [01:57:00] | kormoc: | odd |
| [01:57:00] | tanq: | kormoc: and here is make install |
| [01:57:00] | tanq: | http://pastebin.ca/32910 |
| [01:58:00] | tanq: | there are three warnings about existing modules i.e the msp3400 tda9887 and tuner |
| [01:58:00] | tanq: | but there is nothing about ivtv.ko |
| [01:58:00] | tanq: | and in /lib/modules/2.6.2.... there is nothing |
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| [01:58:00] | tanq: | or in /lib/modules for that matter |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc: | depmod -av doesn't show it, right |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc: | ? |
| [01:59:00] | tanq: | it doesnt even exist to use depmod against |
| [02:00:00] | tanq: | and so the answer is no |
| [02:00:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [02:00:00] | tanq: | depmod -av|grep ivtv shows nothing |
| [02:00:00] | tanq: | ahhh man.. nooooo |
| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | hrm? |
| [02:01:00] | tanq: | the shrug |
| [02:01:00] | a1fa|64: | ok... what would be a reason for choppy live TV? |
| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | tanq, does /home/tang/ivtv/ivtv-0.4.0/driver have ivtv.ko? |
| [02:02:00] | tanq: | kormoc: nope |
| [02:02:00] | kormoc: | make clean and then make and pastebin that make? |
| [02:04:00] | dhofstra_: | just got kubuntu installed (mainly Suse user) still like suse for a desktop because of YAST tools, but kubuntu was damn easy to get working for myth.. only got s-video to setup and I am done. |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa|64: | 4461 mythtv 32 17 73604 42m 10m R 47.1 17.1 1:37.80 mythcommflag |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa|64: | wow |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa|64: | commercial skip flagging really eats up your memory |
| [02:04:00] | tanq: | kormoc: http://pastebin.ca/32912 |
| [02:04:00] | dhofstra_: | oops, my xchat was at the top of the screen.. dont supose anyone in this current time cares.. sorry |
| [02:04:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, it's only using 42 megs... |
| [02:05:00] | a1fa|64: | but anyway.. i am trying to find out, why is live-tv so choppy |
| [02:05:00] | tanq: | kormoc: and make install after make clean and make http://pastebin.ca/32913 |
| [02:05:00] | a1fa|64: | that you cant even watch tv |
| [02:05:00] | a1fa|64: | thats how annoying it is |
| [02:06:00] | kormoc: | tanq, cd into /home/tanq/ivtv/ivtv-0.4.0/driver and see if there's any files in there |
| [02:06:00] | tanq: | there are not any .o or .ko files in there |
| [02:06:00] | kormoc: | tanq, what bout .c? |
| [02:06:00] | kormoc: | a Makefile at least? |
| [02:07:00] | tanq: | yeah there are three makefiles in there |
| [02:07:00] | tanq: | and the src files |
| [02:07:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [02:07:00] | kormoc: | I would type make in there and see what it does |
| [02:07:00] | tanq: | already did that |
| [02:07:00] | tanq: | heh |
| [02:07:00] | kormoc: | heh, nothin? |
| [02:07:00] | tanq: | i did make and make install in there too |
| [02:07:00] | tanq: | nope |
| [02:07:00] | kormoc: | cd src and try make |
| [02:08:00] | tanq: | i don't have a src directory |
| [02:08:00] | tanq: | do you mean make inside driver |
| [02:08:00] | tanq: | where the source files reside with the make files? |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | I'm headin home, I'll be back in like 15 and can help then |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | yeah, driver/src |
| [02:08:00] | tanq: | ok i'm gonna eat.. |
| [02:08:00] | tanq: | there isn't a src dir in driver |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [02:09:00] | tanq: | the src files are just in driver |
| [02:09:00] | kormoc: | 15 min or so |
| [02:09:00] | tanq: | k.. |
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| [02:09:00] | a1fa|64: | Encoder 1 is local on mytivo and is recording: 'Lost' on KATV. This recording will end at 9:00 PM. |
| [02:09:00] | a1fa|64: | Encoder 2 is local on mytivo and is recording: 'The Apprentice: Martha Stewart' on KARK. This recording will end at 9:00 PM. |
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| [02:09:00] | a1fa|64: | :P |
| [02:09:00] | a1fa|64: | but i cant watch shows bcos it is so choppy |
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| [02:13:00] | a1fa|64: | god |
| [02:13:00] | a1fa|64: | even the recorded tv skipps |
| [02:13:00] | a1fa|64: | WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF! |
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| [02:14:00] | a1fa|64: | OMFG |
| [02:14:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: DMA timeout error |
| [02:14:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } |
| [02:14:00] | a1fa|64: | ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| [02:14:00] | a1fa|64: | omgggggggggggg |
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| [02:18:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Check your smartctl -a /dev/<problem disk> to see if any of the SMART flags are showing failure. |
| [02:18:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: (If you've got SMART-enabled drives, that is) |
| [02:19:00] | a1fa|64: | ok |
| [02:19:00] | a1fa|64: | the hd is fine dude |
| [02:19:00] | a1fa|64: | what should i be looking for here? |
| [02:19:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Doesn't seem fine. |
| [02:19:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: But, you need to find out where the problem lies. |
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| [02:20:00] | a1fa|64: | its not the hd.. i know what for a fact |
| [02:20:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: OK. |
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| [02:21:00] | a1fa|64: | Chutt: sup.. when do you guys plan to release svn into stable? |
| [02:21:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Check for excessive "Seek_Error_Rates", "Hardware_ECC_Recovered" |
| [02:21:00] | Chutt: | never. |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa|64: | 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always – 0 |
| [02:22:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: And any SMART error logs. |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa|64: | 0 |
| [02:23:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Anything else in dmesg? What's the first DMA error? |
| [02:24:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21 |
| [02:24:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: DMA timeout error |
| [02:24:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } |
| [02:24:00] | a1fa|64: | ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| [02:25:00] | poop: | lotr looks _good_ in HD |
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| [02:25:00] | a1fa|64: | ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx |
| [02:25:00] | a1fa|64: | i dont get this part |
| [02:25:00] | a1fa|64: | this was when it first booted |
| [02:26:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: "hdparm /dev/<error'd drive>" – output? |
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| [02:26:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: "hdparm -iI /dev/<drive>" is also helpful – pastebin it. |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa|64: | k |
| [02:28:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Do you have "Cable Select" set in the jumpers on the drive? |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa|64: | http://pastebin.ca/32914 |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa|64: | maybe |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa|64: | possibly |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa|64: | it disabled dma |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa|64: | wow |
| [02:29:00] | NightMonkey: | using_dma = 0 (off) |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa|64: | its always enabled |
| [02:29:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Not now :). |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa|64: | hdparm -d1 /dev/hda |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa|64: | using_dma = 1 (on) |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa|64: | k |
| [02:30:00] | a1fa|64: | f000ck |
| [02:30:00] | a1fa|64: | the box just hanged |
| [02:30:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Do you have it set at boot? |
| [02:30:00] | a1fa|64: | init.d |
| [02:30:00] | a1fa|64: | i am loosing my air time |
| [02:30:00] | a1fa|64: | sucks |
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| [02:31:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: My condolences. :/ New drive? New install? |
| [02:31:00] | a1fa|64: | noo |
| [02:31:00] | a1fa|64: | its a brand new drive |
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| [02:32:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: I've had new drives fail. In my experience, they either fail soon, or fail much much later (often just after the warranty expires). |
| [02:32:00] | kormoc: | I was helping someone with their ivtv compile... |
| [02:32:00] | tanq: | k.. me |
| [02:32:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: But, that hasn't been established in your case. |
| [02:33:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: What type of filesystems are on this drive? |
| [02:33:00] | a1fa|64: | ext3 |
| [02:33:00] | a1fa|64: | i just lost 3 minutes of my two shows |
| [02:33:00] | tanq: | can i remove v4l from the kernel? or do i need that for Myth when using the Wintv PVR 150 |
| [02:33:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Well, we don't know that yet. |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | tanq, so in your ivtv/driver directory, could you do a ls and pastebin it? |
| [02:33:00] | a1fa|64: | the box is up |
| [02:33:00] | kormoc: | tanq, no, v4l is required for ivtv. |
| [02:33:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: If it comes back at boot, ext3 should recover the journal. |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | using_dma = 1 (on) |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | right |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | but the livetv is here and gone |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | get it? |
| [02:34:00] | tanq: | kormoc: but no video adapter modules actually checked right ? |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | 3 minutes of down time |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | now both of my shows are split into two |
| [02:34:00] | tanq: | what about DVB |
| [02:34:00] | kormoc: | tanq, I need to check the bttv module to get the tuner and co to build |
| [02:34:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Yeah. |
| [02:35:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: I'd run a SMART test on the drive. You can do that while it is in use. |
| [02:35:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: But, I'd also look for any weirdness in dmesg relating to the drive or the controller. |
| [02:35:00] | a1fa|64: | ok.. the down time was in between the commercials |
| [02:35:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Anything can cause your error, including a loose cable. |
| [02:35:00] | a1fa|64: | perfect timing |
| [02:36:00] | tanq: | kormoc: http://pastebin.ca/32916 |
| [02:36:00] | a1fa|64: | can i run smartctl test while i am recording? |
| [02:37:00] | ** kormoc scratches his head ** | |
| [02:38:00] | kormoc: | tanq, in the drivers directory, make clean and then make and copy and pastebin that? |
| [02:38:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Yes, "man smartctl", and look at -t TEST options. |
| [02:39:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: You also should check that you've enabled SMART on the drive. |
| [02:39:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Ah, nevermind – your pastebin shows that it is. |
| [02:40:00] | tanq: | kormoc: http://pastebin.ca/32917 |
| [02:40:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Also, in my experience, disabling the write cache is a prudent thing to do, so you don't lose a bunch of data that wasn't written to disk on a crash. |
| [02:41:00] | kormoc: | tanq, could you delete this entire ivtv directory and reextract it from the tarball again? |
| [02:41:00] | tanq: | sure |
| [02:41:00] | tanq: | heh |
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| [02:41:00] | tanq: | by the way i downloaded 0.20 while you were away and had the same luck |
| [02:41:00] | kormoc: | tanq, cause I have the tarball downloaded here and it's working fine, which is why I'm so confused. |
| [02:42:00] | tanq: | me too |
| [02:42:00] | tanq: | let me grab it again |
| [02:42:00] | tanq: | kormoc: what version are you using? |
| [02:42:00] | kormoc: | 0.4.0 |
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| [02:43:00] | kormoc: | tanq, what version of make are you using? |
| [02:44:00] | tanq: | 3.80 |
| [02:44:00] | kormoc: | same as I am... |
| [02:44:00] | tanq: | gcc maybe ? |
| [02:44:00] | a1fa|64: | how do you disable the cache? |
| [02:44:00] | kormoc: | 3.4.4 here |
| [02:44:00] | tanq: | 3.3.6 |
| [02:44:00] | a1fa|64: | what is pro/con? |
| [02:44:00] | kormoc: | but for you, it's not even attempting to get to gcc |
| [02:45:00] | kormoc: | What I would say next is if the new tar doesn't do it, it might be the kernel version |
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| [02:45:00] | tanq: | .:. Welcome to the official user-to-user support channel. .:. http://mythtv.org/ |
| [02:45:00] | tanq: | 20:48 < tanq> kormoc: http://pastebin.ca/32917 |
| [02:45:00] | tanq: | 20:48 < NightMonkey> a1fa|64: Also, in my experience, disabling the write cache |
| [02:45:00] | tanq: | is a prudent thing to do, so you don't lose a bunch of data |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | that wasn't written to disk on a crash. |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | 20:49 < kormoc> tanq, could you delete this entire ivtv directory and reextract |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | it from the tarball again? |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | 20:49 < tanq> sure |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | 20:49 < tanq> heh |
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| [02:46:00] | tanq: | [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | 20:49 < tanq> by the way i downloaded 0.20 while you were away and had the same |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | luck |
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| [02:46:00] | tanq: | [Connection timed out] |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | 20:49 < kormoc> tanq, cause I have the tarball downloaded here and it's working |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | fine, which is why I'm so confused. |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | 20:49 < tanq> me too |
| [02:46:00] | tanq: | 20:49 < tanq> let me grab it again |
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| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | ehheheheeh |
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| [02:48:00] | tanq: | was there a paste from me in this channel? firefox flipped out on me... on top of that I didnt even touch this window with my cursor and there was some huge paste going on |
| [02:49:00] | tanq: | kormoc: |
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| [02:54:00] | kormoc: | tanq, yeah, there was a long paste |
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| [03:17:00] | a1fa|64: | OMG |
| [03:17:00] | a1fa|64: | E-RING has to be the shittiest show |
| [03:17:00] | dft: | what channel is that on? |
| [03:17:00] | dft: | more over what cable network? |
| [03:17:00] | a1fa|64: | NBC |
| [03:18:00] | dft: | hmm, never watched it before...plot? |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | it was awful |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | pentagon and special operations |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | the story was flawed |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | inconsistent |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | no sence of time |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | etc |
| [03:18:00] | a1fa|64: | ehe |
| [03:18:00] | dft: | oddly enough, I've been too busy playing with my new mythtv setup I haven't had time to watch any tv yet |
| [03:18:00] | dft: | ahh, I think I caught that once..don't recall it being too good either |
| [03:19:00] | dft: | numb3rs, criminal minds...I like |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | very bad show |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | so here is the plot |
| [03:19:00] | ** dft notes successful RHFC4–1644, mythtv box ** | |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | the guys on horses see taliban in afghanistan |
| [03:20:00] | a1fa|64: | they call in for air support, but air support cant come in bcos of the bad weather |
| [03:20:00] | a1fa|64: | so the guys on horses report, that taliban will be there in 6hours |
| [03:20:00] | a1fa|64: | so check this out.. 6 hOURS |
| [03:20:00] | a1fa|64: | now, 2 hours pass, and they decide do use a presidental plain with vice president to drop supplies |
| [03:21:00] | poop: | "sense" "plane" |
| [03:21:00] | a1fa|64: | to special forces, but the plain is in iraq |
| [03:21:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah sorry.. english 2nd language |
| [03:21:00] | dft: | np |
| [03:21:00] | a1fa|64: | anyway.. so the plane lands in baghdhad.. and resupplys (bear in mind the vp is on the plane) |
| [03:21:00] | dft: | I'm following the context |
| [03:21:00] | a1fa|64: | so its on its way to afghanistan |
| [03:22:00] | dft: | yeah US vp's don't mean too much |
| [03:22:00] | a1fa|64: | no check this out |
| [03:22:00] | a1fa|64: | so, at the end of the tv show |
| [03:22:00] | a1fa|64: | they have appologie made by the vp that he couldnt attend the dinner, because his plane was used to drop supplies in afghanistan |
| [03:22:00] | a1fa|64: | but wtf.. if he was allready on the plane, why the hell did he go on a mission? |
| [03:23:00] | a1fa|64: | but instead, he spent christmass in usa? |
| [03:23:00] | a1fa|64: | maybe 32h away from iraq |
| [03:23:00] | dft: | that's fscked |
| [03:23:00] | a1fa|64: | and some 25h-40h away from afghanistan |
| [03:23:00] | a1fa|64: | and check this out |
| [03:23:00] | a1fa|64: | the supplies had weapons to defeat taliban |
| [03:23:00] | dft: | how convenient |
| [03:23:00] | a1fa|64: | but they defeated taliban before supplies came by blowing up a bridge |
| [03:24:00] | a1fa|64: | so why the hell did they call in supplies at all? well there was food with weapons |
| [03:24:00] | a1fa|64: | the story lacks |
| [03:24:00] | a1fa|64: | the timing is messed up |
| [03:24:00] | poop: | teevee rots your brane |
| [03:24:00] | a1fa|64: | the spacial orientation is bad |
| [03:24:00] | a1fa|64: | i whish i was a critic |
| [03:24:00] | a1fa|64: | i would've raped this show so bad |
| [03:25:00] | a1fa|64: | that it would have an anal leak |
| [03:25:00] | a1fa|64: | months afterwards |
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| [03:25:00] | a1fa|64: | thats how bad it was |
| [03:25:00] | a1fa|64: | omg.. i am going to call NBC and complain |
| [03:25:00] | dft: | enjoy |
| [03:25:00] | a1fa|64: | i lost 35 minutes |
| [03:25:00] | a1fa|64: | of my time watching this stupid show |
| [03:25:00] | a1fa|64: | thanks to mythtv i fast forwarded through commercials |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | and some boring "hollywood" parts of the series |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | so yeah. DONT WATCH IT |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | BAD!!! WEAK!! |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | i am going to go watch lost now |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | maybe thats any better |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | i love lost, but lately, they are making up too much shit |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | that it is not even worth following |
| [03:26:00] | a1fa|64: | a computer? what? a shelter? what? |
| [03:27:00] | a1fa|64: | the next thing you know, they will have jetskis |
| [03:27:00] | a1fa|64: | and open bar |
| [03:27:00] | a1fa|64: | and move the plot into "sex and the city drama" |
| [03:27:00] | a1fa|64: | and make a big cluster fuck |
| [03:32:00] | phoner: | little do they know they are actually stuck on a movie set |
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| [03:56:00] | abarbaccia: | hello all – i have a few quick questions – if i have a high def cable box – how can i record in high def? what card do i need? |
| [04:00:00] | dhofstra_: | great writeup on ubuntu by the way |
| [04:00:00] | dhofstra_: | just got it working, awesome... |
| [04:00:00] | dhofstra_: | anyone remember the site for the prebuilt serial ir recievers? |
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| [04:01:00] | abarbaccia: | dhofstra_, ebay – search mythtv |
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| [04:01:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i just read that SVN r8135 has a 'file handling glitch'... does anyone know what that means? |
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| [04:06:00] | maddhaggis: | Hello again folks |
| [04:06:00] | abarbaccia: | hello all – anybody know if you can take the analog feed from a HD signal and grab it with a capture card – or does it need to come from the cable box digitally via firewire or something? |
| [04:08:00] | maddhaggis: | :abarbaccia you can only grab composite or S from a Cablebox so no Hi Def there. If you need HD use firewire |
| [04:12:00] | maddhaggis: | I have a playback issue where my nfs mount seems to hang in the middle of a movie/DVD . Resetting my network switch fixes the issue temporaily. I have tried many different NFS settings in fstab on the clients and disabled autonegotiation on the server's NIC......any thoughts? |
| [04:13:00] | rjune: | wow, I just read a1fa|64's rant. |
| [04:13:00] | rjune: | that's something |
| [04:14:00] | Chutt: | anyone have a 2.6.15-rc5 kernel source? |
| [04:14:00] | rjune: | not I |
| [04:14:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | kernel.org does... |
| [04:14:00] | rjune: | I think he meant us. |
| [04:14:00] | Chutt: | uncompressed |
| [04:15:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i have patched ck |
| [04:15:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | but yeah |
| [04:15:00] | Chutt: | so i don't need to grab the entire thing for one header file :p |
| [04:16:00] | Chutt: | ah, nevermind |
| [04:16:00] | Chutt: | i can grab it from ivtv 0.4.1 |
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| [04:16:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | so now one knows about r8135? |
| [04:17:00] | Chutt: | why would someone know anything about an old revision? |
| [04:17:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | it like 1 day old |
| [04:17:00] | Chutt: | 33 revisions old. |
| [04:17:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | lol |
| [04:18:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | well i noticed it was old and checked the trac, but didnt find any messages that said 'fixed file handling glitch' |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | what file handling glitch? |
| [04:18:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i dont know |
| [04:18:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | thats what i'm trying to find out |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | so, uh |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | why are you asking about a problem you don't know anything about? |
| [04:19:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i heard something about a 'file handling glitch' and i was trying to figure out what the guy was talking about |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | or even if it exists. |
| [04:19:00] | rjune: | 'cause he's inquisitive |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | so you 'heard something'? |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | where? |
| [04:19:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | on a forums somewhere |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | that's useful information. |
| [04:19:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | lol |
| [04:19:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | well i figure by the time i do a checkout, it'll be fixed, whatever it is, if a problem exists |
| [04:19:00] | rjune: | Ginsu_Squirrel: you need to be less specific, your'e too specific for Chutt to be able to help you |
| [04:19:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | cuz i'm not gonna checkout for another week or so |
| [04:20:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | rjune: lol |
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| [04:20:00] | maddhaggis: | why would my guide show no info until after midnight tomorrom? |
| [04:20:00] | maddhaggis: | tomorrow |
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| [04:21:00] | maddhaggis: | it does the same thing after cron too.....first day missing |
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| [04:30:00] | maddhaggis: | hello? |
| [04:34:00] | maddhaggis: | Come on people..... I need answers......Pllleeasse:) |
| [04:34:00] | abarbaccia: | if i have a high def TV – what are my options as far as getting high def signals into mythtv? (which cards and/or antenna's or settop-boxes) |
| [04:36:00] | maddhaggis: | abarbaccia: Well Sat is out... your only options are Firewire for a HD cablebox or an ATSC/DVB tuner card for digital offair |
| [04:38:00] | maddhaggis: | Cable boxes are usualy motorola DCT6200 (I think) and PCHDTV.com has a DVB/ATSC/QAM tuner....the HD3000 |
| [04:38:00] | maddhaggis: | Air2PC is another card |
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| [04:40:00] | maddhaggis: | wow it sure is slow tonight |
| [04:43:00] | abarbaccia: | maddhaggis, so if the cable box comes with a firewire output |
| [04:43:00] | abarbaccia: | i can simply use that and then theres no need for any other cap. cards? |
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| [04:44:00] | abarbaccia: | and what's digital offair? |
| [04:48:00] | poop: | abarb: yes, but you'll only get unencrypted HD channels over firewire |
| [04:48:00] | poop: | and it's a bit flakey in mythtv |
| [04:52:00] | abarbaccia: | poop, so what are my options to get as many high def channels as possible? |
| [04:57:00] | poop: | abarb: digital dvr or STB + device that does 5C (like d-vhs) |
| [04:59:00] | maddhaggis: | 5C? |
| [05:00:00] | poop: | encryption |
| [05:01:00] | maddhaggis: | when you say digital dvr you mean firewire w/ a dvr box right? |
| [05:04:00] | poop: | No, I mean a single unit |
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| [05:19:00] | poop: | Shake it like a polaroid picture |
| [05:19:00] | abarbaccia: | im so confused right now – all i want is a damn high def signal and an easy way to get it into myth |
| [05:19:00] | abarbaccia: | what do i need to do |
| [05:19:00] | abarbaccia: | HD3000 does what? |
| [05:19:00] | abarbaccia: | Air2PC does what? |
| [05:20:00] | abarbaccia: | firewire gets me where? |
| [05:20:00] | abarbaccia: | so many questions need answering |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | abarb: gotta pore over the gossamer lists to get an idea |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | wikipedia has some clues too :) |
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| [05:21:00] | abarbaccia: | lets start simple – i have an HD-Ready LCD TV – how do i get high def into it? |
| [05:21:00] | ** poop imagines delicious abarbaccia bread pizza ** | |
| [05:21:00] | poop: | HD tuner |
| [05:21:00] | abarbaccia: | ??? what?! abarbaccia = andrew barbaccia |
| [05:21:00] | abarbaccia: | HD tuner means what?! |
| [05:21:00] | abarbaccia: | antenna? |
| [05:21:00] | poop: | cable or OTA |
| [05:22:00] | abarbaccia: | ota = over the air |
| [05:22:00] | poop: | aye |
| [05:22:00] | abarbaccia: | so i get HD cable and can just hook it up- correct? |
| [05:22:00] | poop: | yeah |
| [05:22:00] | abarbaccia: | so lets say i do this – now i want mythtv to use those cable signals – how do i do that |
| [05:23:00] | poop: | Now you have to worry about QAM/ 5C/ encryption |
| [05:23:00] | abarbaccia: | which is what? |
| [05:24:00] | poop: | optional encoding/ encryption stuff |
| [05:24:00] | abarbaccia: | so the cable company encrypts their stuff so you can't watch it w.o the box |
| [05:24:00] | poop: | OTA channels are often unencrypted (for now), so myth (which doesn't speak 5c) can just capture if over firewire |
| [05:24:00] | abarbaccia: | so unless i can decrypt it (which i can only imagine as being illegal) – i got nothing |
| [05:25:00] | abarbaccia: | QAM is what? |
| [05:25:00] | poop: | If you have a device that speaks 5c it can record everything you get over firewire |
| [05:25:00] | poop: | gonna refer you to wikipedia :) |
| [05:26:00] | poop: | I only have a fuzzy understanding, but I did get firewire capture working in myth. |
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| [05:27:00] | abarbaccia: | so firewire lets you watch all your channels that you get on your cable box in high def? |
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| [05:29:00] | poop: | It lets you capture the (enencrypted only mpeg2 transport) HD stream directly |
| [05:29:00] | poop: | e.g. I get ~10 unencrypted HD channels from Comcast |
| [05:29:00] | poop: | Even if I subscribed to HBO or something, myth couldn't do anything with it |
| [05:29:00] | poop: | a D-VHS deck, for example, could |
| [05:30:00] | abarbaccia: | because its incrypted |
| [05:30:00] | poop: | yeah, 5c |
| [05:31:00] | poop: | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems |
| [05:31:00] | poop: | in short: no |
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| [05:32:00] | abarbaccia: | no to my question – or no to u getting my message |
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| [05:32:00] | poop: | no to the question |
| [05:32:00] | abarbaccia: | gotcha |
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| [05:36:00] | abarbaccia: | so basically there are no linux HD capture cards designed to capture cable high def. feeds |
| [05:36:00] | poop: | It didn't make sense for me to invest in a pchdtv card. |
| [05:37:00] | abarbaccia: | well, whats the diff between air2pc and pchdtv – or do they do basically the same thing |
| [05:38:00] | poop: | I read about them a long time ago and what I got was: similar but air2pc has newer hardware |
| [05:38:00] | maddhaggis: | I don't think air2pc supports QAM |
| [05:44:00] | laga: | i'm quite sure there was a card out there that did QAM |
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| [05:48:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | so how big does this livetv buffer thing get? |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well in 0.18 it gets as big as you configured it to be allowed to get |
| [05:52:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | oh, its configurable |
| [05:52:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | makes sense |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | in SVN it's different, but in 0.18 it's configurable |
| [05:54:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | if i may ask, how is it differtn? |
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| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not a ring buffer anymore |
| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's a just a series of recordings |
| [05:55:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | mmm |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | as a new show starts the recorder starts writing to a new file as a new recording |
| [05:55:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | sounds like fun |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | but while watching it's treated like a big chain so you can rewind back a couple shows |
| [05:55:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | same if you change channels or no? |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | technically that;'s a new show :) |
| [05:56:00] | phoner: | heh, that explains why they keep showing up under recordings |
| [05:56:00] | phoner: | how to I prevent that? |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can change your default display group to "default" |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't remember the exact location of the option, you will have to look through the frontends settings for it |
| [05:56:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i'm so excited |
| [05:56:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | can't wait to get home and play iwth myth |
| [05:57:00] | phoner: | do the shows get deleted automaticly? |
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| [05:59:00] | pelesmk: | when using the crop filter I get an overload of errors in mythtv log about using CropMMX on non-mmx machine |
| [05:59:00] | pelesmk: | how cna I redirect these errors from my log? |
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| [06:14:00] | Chutt: | xris, yo |
| [06:19:00] | simcop2387: | does anyone with a pvr150 have working closed captioning? if so any details about your setup would be nice |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | simcop2387, I don't beleive that the pvr's support cc |
| [06:26:00] | simcop2387: | they dont? |
| [06:28:00] | kormoc: | I seem to recall that someone in here was looking into it a bunch and I beleive she said she found out that they don't, or myth doesn't or ivtv doesn't or something like that. There was a blocker of some sort. |
| [06:33:00] | pelesmk: | anyone using crop? |
| [06:33:00] | pelesmk: | or TVOverscan? |
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| [06:50:00] | simcop2387: | kormoc: hmm, that seems a bit off because i've seen what looks like structured gibberish from /dev/vbi0 when watching tv, its not correct (my guess is that its ivtv not working with them properly) |
| [06:51:00] | kormoc: | that could have very well been what was the issue she had, but I'm not sure |
| [06:51:00] | simcop2387: | the reason is i'd love to make dvd's with subtitles and CC automagically once i get my automated scripts going |
| [06:52:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I've also known that some people were looking into cc on mute automatically, but nothings come of it |
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| [06:54:00] | simcop2387: | neat idea |
| [06:54:00] | simcop2387: | one thing i've been wanting to do is setup mythphone but i don't have a modem or a microphone |
| [06:55:00] | kormoc: | mythphone is voip iirc |
| [06:56:00] | kormoc: | so no modem needed |
| [06:56:00] | simcop2387: | well i still need a microphone :) |
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| [06:57:00] | simcop2387: | i'd rather set it up to work with something like asterix and hook my phones to a box for it so i can be my own telecom over ip for my apartment/dorm room |
| [06:58:00] | kormoc: | mythphone might be able to be hooked into asterix |
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| [08:08:00] | juski: | mornin' |
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| [08:19:00] | Xenna: | moring |
| [08:19:00] | simcop2387: | ooo! IM integration into mythtv! |
| [08:19:00] | simcop2387: | theres an idea, you get two "panels" on the sides of the tv/recording, and one you type into the other contains the message log |
| [08:20:00] | ** Xenna hates chatting ** | |
| [08:20:00] | simcop2387: | then what are you in here for? |
| [08:20:00] | Xenna: | Hard core information |
| [08:20:00] | Xenna: | ;) |
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| [08:22:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [08:23:00] | juski: | ugh.. I like my mythtv as it is, _without_ IM |
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| [08:23:00] | simcop2387: | would be interesting to do, with a good interface it'd be awsome for people with wireless keyboards |
| [08:25:00] | juski: | on reflection though.. it'd add a bit more convergence I suppose ;) |
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| [08:42:00] | Xenna: | I think FM radio makes more sense |
| [08:43:00] | Xenna: | Video surveillance would be nice too |
| [08:44:00] | Xenna: | Connect a webcam or a composite cam to a mythbox |
| [08:44:00] | Xenna: | and make the mythbox popup a PIP window whenever there's sound or movement |
| [08:45:00] | Xenna: | Could be used for surveillance OR babysitting |
| [08:45:00] | juski: | no good for folks like me with a 1GHz CPU in the frontend.. have you any idea how much CPU motion detection takes? |
| [08:46:00] | juski: | the company I work for have a dedicated chip to do it |
| [08:46:00] | Xenna: | None whatsoever |
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| [08:46:00] | Xenna: | There's some software tool to do it I think |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | juski, or insted of spending alot of money to get a high powered cpu how bout use hardware decoding? |
| [08:47:00] | juski: | SlicerDicer: I already use a HW decoder |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well then whats the problem? |
| [08:47:00] | Xenna: | http://www.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au/Personal/d . . . ndetect.html |
| [08:47:00] | ** SlicerDicer- missed part of the problem ** | |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | heh |
| [08:47:00] | Xenna: | And wouldn't this kind of thing be done in the backend? |
| [08:47:00] | juski: | actually you can do motion detection by using stuff left over from MPEG encoding |
| [08:48:00] | juski: | yeh but displaying 2 video streams isn't what my EPIA's good at |
| [08:48:00] | Xenna: | ah, I pity you |
| [08:48:00] | ** SlicerDicer- shuts up I was thinking of something else ** | |
| [08:48:00] | Xenna: | You have a diskless setup? |
| [08:48:00] | juski: | it's _fine_ for me – I never wanted useless stuff like PiP anyway :) |
| [08:49:00] | juski: | Xenna: diskless, apart from the slimline DVDROM drive ;) |
| [08:49:00] | Xenna: | Still motion detection PiP would be cool for many people |
| [08:49:00] | Xenna: | fanless also? |
| [08:50:00] | juski: | Yup. well now it is.. modded it with a Zalman Northbridge heatsink |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I hate fans! |
| [08:50:00] | Xenna: | That's nice (I hate fans too) |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [08:50:00] | ** juski loves all his fans, but they never write anymore ** | |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the only fan that I have ever seen put to good use was in the movie Airplane when poo was flung at it! |
| [08:50:00] | Xenna: | My solution for perfect quietness is to put a big noisy server in its own server room |
| [08:51:00] | juski: | That's what I did with the backend |
| [08:51:00] | Xenna: | and control everything remotely |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | juski, I am considering the zalman stuff I would love to get the case that is 100% quiet but the thing is so damn expensive |
| [08:51:00] | Xenna: | That machine is backend and frontend |
| [08:51:00] | juski: | my wife actually suggested a few months ago it'd be _cool_ to have whole house networked audio (in not so many words) |
| [08:52:00] | Xenna: | You should look into the Squeezebox stuff then |
| [08:52:00] | juski: | SlicerDicer: looks ugly as sin too, that case :( |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | juski, yeah |
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| [08:52:00] | Xenna: | I have whole house networked audio AND video |
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| [08:53:00] | SlicerDicer: | well crapstastic my internet died on my other box |
| [08:53:00] | Xenna: | Well, not every single room, those squeezeboxes are expensive |
| [08:53:00] | juski: | I've been thinking of using little EPIA frontends with their own LCD screens |
| [08:53:00] | SlicerDicer: | what was the last message you got from me? |
| [08:54:00] | juski: | SlicerDicer-: juski, yeah |
| [08:54:00] | Xenna: | That's nice but it gets expensive and apparently they don't do PiP :( |
| [08:54:00] | juski: | who needs PiP on a 7" screen? ;) |
| [08:54:00] | SlicerDicer: | I was thinking of getting lian li cases as they can take larger fans and be quieter :) |
| [08:55:00] | juski: | yeh get a 300mm fan & turn the revs down |
| [08:55:00] | Xenna: | Oh, wait I misunderstood the function of the screen, you want to show video on them |
| [08:55:00] | SlicerDicer: | I am going to get the reducer from 120 to 80mm for my cpu |
| [08:55:00] | juski: | reducers are _bad_.. they create turbulence |
| [08:55:00] | Xenna: | A self contained PC with LCD and remote would be cool I guess |
| [08:56:00] | SlicerDicer: | juski: fine then! |
| [08:56:00] | SlicerDicer: | just have to find a cooler with a 120mm |
| [08:58:00] | Xenna: | Well, I'm off to a work meeting |
| [08:58:00] | juski: | actually maybe on a fan that size it'll be ok, but all I'm saying is the reducer willl sort of negate the advantage of the bigger fan |
| [08:58:00] | juski: | (slightly) |
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| [10:16:00] | fatmatt: | anyone using one of the harmony remote controls? |
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| [10:18:00] | Xenna: | No, but I've been thinking of getting one |
| [10:18:00] | Xenna: | You have one? |
| [10:20:00] | Xenna: | Juski: You're british right? |
| [10:21:00] | fatmatt: | I'm thinking of getting one |
| [10:21:00] | Xenna: | I think they have customizable menu's which could be cool |
| [10:22:00] | Xenna: | I'm just a bit worried about battery life |
| [10:22:00] | Xenna: | I had a one-for-all once that ran out of batteries quite often |
| [10:22:00] | Xenna: | i hated that |
| [10:24:00] | fatmatt: | reading a few reviews for the 880, says a week on 1 charge, maybe 3 when the battery is new |
| [10:24:00] | fatmatt: | and it comes with a cradle... |
| [10:24:00] | Xenna: | That's terrible compared to a 'normal' remote |
| [10:24:00] | Xenna: | OK, so you store it in th ecradle, that might work... |
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| [10:25:00] | fatmatt: | yeah, have to store it in a cradle, still, what do you expect with a colour screen |
| [10:25:00] | fatmatt: | have you read the reviews> |
| [10:26:00] | Xenna: | Nope, but I wouldn't want a color one anyway I think |
| [10:27:00] | fatmatt: | I'm reading the reviews from here: http://www.eyo.com.au/prod_DM-H-880_proddesc_ . . . Control.html |
| [10:28:00] | Xenna: | It's quite a fortune for a remote |
| [10:28:00] | Xenna: | I was thinking of this one: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/de . . . TENTID=10929 |
| [10:28:00] | Xenna: | cheapie |
| [10:28:00] | simcop2387: | i'd rather just get a cheap one from walmart |
| [10:29:00] | Xenna: | That's probably best |
| [10:29:00] | Xenna: | No walmart here though... |
| [10:30:00] | fatmatt: | Xenna: thats not bad |
| [10:31:00] | laga: | re |
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| [10:59:00] | juski: | Xenna: yes I'm British (for all my sins) |
| [11:00:00] | laga: | hello juski |
| [11:00:00] | laga: | juski: did you see coume's posting? |
| [11:00:00] | juski: | (or English, as I like to say) ;) |
| [11:00:00] | juski: | hi laga |
| [11:00:00] | juski: | coume's posting? I'll go look |
| [11:02:00] | juski: | which one? the nov 29th one? |
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| [11:03:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [11:03:00] | jono: | working from home to fix up the last bits of my myth box :) |
| [11:04:00] | juski: | laga: looks serious.. |
| [11:04:00] | jono: | anyone know how to reduce the size of the video files that are stored when I record tv shows? an hour seems around 2GB |
| [11:04:00] | juski: | jono: transcode :) |
| [11:05:00] | jono: | what is transcode? |
| [11:05:00] | juski: | transcoding – making one video format into a different, space saving one ;) |
| [11:06:00] | jono: | so how do I do this? can it be automated? |
| [11:06:00] | Xenna: | Juski: I have a small gripe with MythTV, with the channel numbering |
| [11:06:00] | juski: | see the recording profiles setup page.. you can find transcoding options in there |
| [11:06:00] | juski: | and even set mythtv to auto transcode when recording is done (as a job which can be scheduled) |
| [11:06:00] | Xenna: | I was wondering if you Brits (Sorry English) wouldn't hva the same problem |
| [11:07:00] | juski: | what kind of problem, Xenna? Our Freeview chan numbers are all over the palce |
| [11:07:00] | Xenna: | Thing is that in Holland we always work with presets on TV's and VCR's |
| [11:07:00] | Xenna: | To get NL1, NL2, NL3 neatly under buttons 1, 2 & 3 |
| [11:08:00] | Xenna: | And BBC1 & 2 under buttons 11 and 12 |
| [11:08:00] | Xenna: | With MythTV you always need to know the channel(frequency) numbers to jump to a channel with the remote |
| [11:09:00] | Xenna: | So if I want to jump to NL1 I press 9 and NL3 is under 7 |
| [11:09:00] | Xenna: | Very hard to remember this for 35 chanels which are in random order) |
| [11:10:00] | Xenna: | You don't have this problem? |
| [11:10:00] | juski: | you can change them yourself, as I've done in the past, but mythtv's DVB code will add them again with their 'proper' numbers AFAIK |
| [11:11:00] | jono: | do I need to install something called transcode? |
| [11:11:00] | Xenna: | I think there shopuld probably be a 'European' channel mode where you refer to channels as presets |
| [11:11:00] | juski: | and I've only ever used livetv to test my tuners work |
| [11:11:00] | juski: | jono: yep |
| [11:12:00] | juski: | channel grouping would be quite cool too ;) |
| [11:12:00] | laga: | Xenna: check mythfilldatabase --manual --preset, that could do what you're looking for |
| [11:12:00] | Xenna: | I'd like to be able to jumt to channels based on the channel.chanid field with the remote |
| [11:13:00] | laga: | oh, ok. DVB. never mind :) |
| [11:13:00] | jono: | juski, thats probably why when I ask it to transcode, nothing happens :P |
| [11:14:00] | Xenna: | lala: What DB field does this preset correspond to? |
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| [11:14:00] | laga: | lala? ;) |
| [11:14:00] | juski: | unless you patch the code to stop mythtv adding new DVB channels automatically, you're probably gonna be stuck with whatever dumb numbering the broadcaster wants you to have |
| [11:14:00] | laga: | Xenna: i don't know |
| [11:14:00] | juski: | tinky winky? |
| [11:14:00] | Xenna: | oops sorry, laga |
| [11:14:00] | laga: | hehe, np |
| [11:15:00] | laga: | hey, can't you make mythtv sort the channels alphabetically? that could help |
| [11:15:00] | juski: | hmm.. in the DB there's chanid, which is the key column IIRC |
| [11:15:00] | Xenna: | The sorting is OK, I have that working |
| [11:15:00] | juski: | and then there's channum |
| [11:16:00] | Xenna: | but maybe I misunderstood one of the fields |
| [11:16:00] | Xenna: | I'm puzzled about the diff between freqid and channum |
| [11:16:00] | juski: | freqid isn't used for DVB, except for DBOX2 users |
| [11:17:00] | laga: | freqid is like, the frequency |
| [11:17:00] | Xenna: | Does channum of freqid set the frequency for ivtv tuners? |
| [11:17:00] | juski: | freqid I think |
| [11:17:00] | laga: | freqid i believe |
| [11:17:00] | Xenna: | So I could put my own presets in channum? |
| [11:17:00] | Xenna: | Well, that's simple than... |
| [11:17:00] | Xenna: | I'll try it out tonight |
| [11:18:00] | Xenna: | thnx |
| [11:18:00] | juski: | the background channel adding code _might_ mess that up though |
| [11:18:00] | Xenna: | if necessary I'll refresh it from a little script |
| [11:19:00] | juski: | I had problems adding a new channel a while ago because it's DVB LCN (logical chan number) was the same as a channel I'd renumbered myself |
| [11:20:00] | Xenna: | ic |
| [11:21:00] | juski: | oh it got added, but when I tried to record from it, all I got was the channel I'd renumbered myself |
| [11:21:00] | juski: | both channels had the same channum ;) |
| [11:23:00] | jono: | if a red item is in the job queue, does that mean a job is currently running? |
| [11:24:00] | Xenna: | I still have a lot to learn |
| [11:26:00] | juski: | jono: that'll depend on the theme... the status menu should tell you for sure |
| [11:26:00] | jono: | juski, this is in the status menu |
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| [11:27:00] | jono: | in status->job queue |
| [11:27:00] | juski: | doesn't it say how many jobs are running and how many are pending? |
| [11:28:00] | jono: | juski, nope |
| [11:28:00] | jono: | just a single red enty |
| [11:29:00] | juski: | I've only ever looked at user jobs in mythweb |
| [11:31:00] | jono: | hmmm |
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| [11:42:00] | jono: | right the transcode job is queued, when does it begin? |
| [11:42:00] | laga: | juski: if you've got some spare time, tell me what you think about my suggestions ;) |
| [11:43:00] | jono: | hmm its erroring when trying to encode |
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| [11:44:00] | juski: | laga: I'll have a look at lunchtime.. |
| [11:44:00] | laga: | juski: sounds tasty. |
| [11:44:00] | laga: | err, good |
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| [11:48:00] | nuxil: | hello people |
| [11:48:00] | nuxil: | anyone using lircd? |
| [11:48:00] | nuxil: | and have irxevent up and running?? |
| [11:48:00] | nuxil: | does irxevent need X to run?? |
| [11:49:00] | laga: | yes, irxevent needs X |
| [11:49:00] | nuxil: | + lircd ofcource |
| [11:49:00] | nuxil: | ok thxz |
| [11:49:00] | laga: | Irxevent is a program that I wrote to send button clicks and key presses to X applications triggered by a LIRC driven remote control. |
| [11:49:00] | jono: | anyone know what the myth key for << and >> remote buttons is? |
| [11:49:00] | laga: | man irxevent |
| [11:49:00] | jono: | need to set the mappings |
| [11:49:00] | laga: | jono: look at keys.txt |
| [11:50:00] | jono: | hmmm |
| [11:50:00] | nuxil: | laga well i have it working.. its just that could not get it started at boot,, now i know why ;) thxz |
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| [11:57:00] | Xenna: | laga: What would I do if I wanted to send fake 'button presses' from an application to applications listening to lircd? |
| [11:58:00] | Xenna: | Like control mythfrontend from a script |
| [11:58:00] | nuxil: | laga can you help me?? |
| [11:58:00] | nuxil: | http://pastebin.com/453870 can some one help me with this,, i have this in my rc.local file.. the problem is that function irxe needs X to run,, so how can i make wait for X the it gets executed?? |
| [11:59:00] | juski: | laga: great ideas! |
| [11:59:00] | Xenna: | Isn't there a script you can autoexecute whenever X starts? |
| [11:59:00] | nuxil: | i donno |
| [12:00:00] | Xenna: | I personally just start X from my rc.local first ;) |
| [12:00:00] | laga: | nuxil: put it in your .xinitrc or .xsession |
| [12:00:00] | nuxil: | hmm,, yea i could do that.. good idea thxz |
| [12:01:00] | Xenna: | laga: What would I do if I wanted to send fake 'button presses' from an application to applications listening to lircd? |
| [12:02:00] | laga: | Xenna: i dont know. |
| [12:02:00] | Xenna: | There's no standard way for this? |
| [12:02:00] | laga: | dunno. check irxevent for a start |
| [12:03:00] | Xenna: | Thing is, I made a way, but I was wondering if it was The Right Way |
| [12:03:00] | Xenna: | If I overlooked something |
| [12:04:00] | Xenna: | Otherwise I may post it to the lirc list for comments |
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| [12:06:00] | Xenna: | I've also made a simple remote control program that runs on windows (think wireless laptop) |
| [12:06:00] | Xenna: | So you can control MythTV with your laptop keys |
| [12:07:00] | laga: | there's already a java project that does that |
| [12:07:00] | Xenna: | What's it's name? |
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| [12:07:00] | Xenna: | I have it, looks good |
| [12:07:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [12:08:00] | Xenna: | It's doesn't use lirc |
| [12:09:00] | laga: | oh, are you using lirc for that? that rocks! are you using it's client-server functionality? |
| [12:09:00] | Xenna: | Hmm, not exactly... |
| [12:09:00] | Xenna: | I made a proxy for lircd |
| [12:09:00] | laga: | oh, ok. |
| [12:09:00] | laga: | i was referring to this: |
| [12:09:00] | laga: | -l --listen[=port] |
| [12:09:00] | laga: | listen for network connections on port |
| [12:10:00] | laga: | (man lircd) |
| [12:10:00] | Xenna: | You can stuff commands into that proxy via udp or from another socket (the one that's connected to th ereal lircd) |
| [12:11:00] | Xenna: | I'bve read that but I couldn't find any docs |
| [12:11:00] | Xenna: | So I just put another program in between |
| [12:11:00] | Xenna: | The windows client I made just sends keys to the proxy via UDP |
| [12:11:00] | wole: | lo peeps, new to myth, just thought I'd say hi! I'm in the UK trying to pull XMLTV listings using http://www.darkskiez.co.uk/index.php?page=tv_grab_dvb it says tht I need to use channels.conf, but i don;t have a channels.conf file (i'm using knoppmyth) any ideas how to generate it? |
| [12:12:00] | Xenna: | Do you think it would be interesting for other users? |
| [12:15:00] | juski: | wole: you don't need to use tv_grab_dvb |
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| [12:15:00] | juski: | wole: in mythtv-setup just make sure the box for 'use onair guide' is checked for all the channels ;) |
| [12:16:00] | juski: | that's _if_ you're using a DVB tuner. If you're not, you should be using tv_grab_uk_rt instead |
| [12:16:00] | ille: | Xenna, there is a tool called mythwifi already http://studwww.ugent.be/~aveys/mythwifi/ |
| [12:17:00] | Xenna: | Yeah, I just saw it, that's teh one laga mant I think |
| [12:17:00] | Xenna: | But it doesn't hook into lirc AFAICS |
| [12:18:00] | Xenna: | Mine does |
| [12:18:00] | ille: | that is nice if you dont have a webserver running |
| [12:19:00] | Xenna: | Actually I made it to interface with my squeezebox network ( http://www.slimdevices.com/ ) |
| [12:20:00] | Xenna: | But it also offers a way to fake button presses in other ways or to link multiple lirc setups |
| [12:20:00] | Xenna: | I'm trying to figure out if it's of sufficient general use for others |
| [12:24:00] | ille: | hmm, MythWifi post keypress events Xevents to the widgets of MythTv. Your way of doing it will work also with other applicaitons. |
| [12:24:00] | Xenna: | That's right |
| [12:25:00] | Xenna: | It also works for mplayer playing downloaded video's |
| [12:25:00] | ille: | exactly |
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| [12:26:00] | ille: | is your solution windoze only? |
| [12:27:00] | Xenna: | The windows client is windows only at the moment |
| [12:27:00] | Xenna: | But the core (the lirc proxy) runs anywhere Perl is available |
| [12:28:00] | Xenna: | The slimserver (squeezebox) Plugin runs anywhere slimserver runs (Windows/OSX/Linux) |
| [12:29:00] | Xenna: | I think I'll clean it up a little and post it to the lirc list |
| [12:29:00] | ille: | now I get it, so you control your mythbox from the squeezebox |
| [12:29:00] | Xenna: | And the slimserver list as well |
| [12:29:00] | Xenna: | Exactly |
| [12:29:00] | Xenna: | I have two of those, one in the living and the other in the bedroom |
| [12:30:00] | Xenna: | Both next to a TV, the TV's are fed the MythTV A/V through the TV cable |
| [12:30:00] | Xenna: | Works very well |
| [12:30:00] | ille: | ok |
| [12:31:00] | Xenna: | But I needed a way to tap into the lirc data stream, so that's what I made the proxy for |
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| [12:31:00] | ** juski gives up trying to surf on the work internet connection & does it over the (faster) vnc session instead.. ** | |
| [12:31:00] | Xenna: | And the windows client was easy to add |
| [12:31:00] | Xenna: | And useful in the kitchen where there's no Squeezebox |
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| [12:35:00] | ille: | Xenna; post your solution to the myth-users list also |
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| [12:37:00] | Xenna: | OK, I will |
| [12:37:00] | Xenna: | I'll put up a page explaining it (which is quite hard) |
| [12:38:00] | wole: | juski: thanks. :-D |
| [12:38:00] | Xenna: | Maybe a configurable RC program would be nice |
| [12:39:00] | jono: | anyone here compile myth modules for use with mythtv from normal packages? |
| [12:40:00] | juski: | jono: nope |
| [12:40:00] | juski: | though I've compiled everything before |
| [12:41:00] | juski: | I hope this isn't gonna be a mythFM question ;) |
| [12:41:00] | jono: | mythfm? |
| [12:41:00] | juski: | shhh! :) |
| [12:42:00] | jono: | what is it? is it for radio boards or net radio? |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | jono: for radio tooners |
| [12:43:00] | jono: | oh my god, there is a kareoke module |
| [12:43:00] | juski: | which plugins are you afer compiling, Jono? |
| [12:43:00] | jono: | I want to compile mythgame as its broken in breezy |
| [12:43:00] | jono: | but I also like the look of MythRecipe |
| [12:44:00] | jono: | I can compile it fine, I just don't know where you make the module available to myth |
| [12:44:00] | juski: | jono: if it built to the right place (and maybe it didn't) it should appear |
| [12:44:00] | jono: | juski, I want to build all my compiled modules in a specific directory |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | I can't remember which way around it is, but I think ubuntu puts mythtv in /usr/bin my default, but when you compile stuff it defaults to /usr/loca/bin (I think) |
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| [12:49:00] | jono: | yeah |
| [12:49:00] | jono: | maybe I can symlink it |
| [12:50:00] | juski: | or rebuild it with a different target location (or whatever it's called) |
| [12:50:00] | juski: | or update $PATH |
| [12:50:00] | juski: | ah no, not that way... |
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| [12:51:00] | jono: | I can use a --prefix |
| [12:51:00] | jono: | so does mythtv just automatically detect modules? |
| [12:52:00] | juski: | I think so |
| [12:53:00] | juski: | oh hell.. Scan are getting worse at updating their 'today only' offers. they only have 4 hours left of their day, and the 'today only' page still says Wednesday. |
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| [13:08:00] | jono: | what is xv support? apparently my card doesnt suppor it |
| [13:08:00] | ivor: | really? blimey. |
| [13:08:00] | ivor: | what sort of card? |
| [13:09:00] | ivor: | (seems unlikely) |
| [13:09:00] | jono: | ati radeon with official driver |
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| [13:09:00] | ivor: | what dist. |
| [13:09:00] | jono: | ivor, ubuntu |
| [13:10:00] | jono: | do I just need to install something? |
| [13:10:00] | ivor: | have you installed the xv library? |
| [13:10:00] | jono: | not sure, let me check |
| [13:10:00] | jono: | yeah its installed |
| [13:10:00] | jono: | libxv1 |
| [13:12:00] | jono: | hmmm it may not be turned on |
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| [13:13:00] | ivor: | never used the official ati driver so I don't know if you have to configure something. |
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| [13:39:00] | jono: | ok, it seems that xv is not supported with tv out |
| [13:40:00] | rjune: | bummer |
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| [14:05:00] | ivor: | jono: what does xvinfo tell you? |
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| [14:38:00] | jono_: | hi all |
| [14:38:00] | jono_: | I am having trouble getting video to output on my tv when using xv – anyone else get this? |
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| [14:53:00] | juski: | jono_: are you using dual desktop or anything like that? that could have a bearing on it, but I'm not too well up on ATI stuff |
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| [15:47:00] | jono_: | hi all |
| [15:47:00] | jono_: | what do I need installed to transcode with mythtv? |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | you mean, mythdvd or just transcoding your recordings? |
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| [15:56:00] | jono_: | laga, my recordings |
| [15:56:00] | jono_: | its erroring when I ask it too |
| [15:56:00] | jono_: | it says: |
| [15:56:00] | jono_: | 2005-12–08 15:45:10.006 Unknown video codec: |
| [15:56:00] | jono_: | 2005-12–08 15:45:10.009 Transcoding /var/lib/mythtv//1103_20051208110000_20051208120000.nuv failed |
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| [16:05:00] | juski: | jono: did you set the transcode to go from jtpeg to mpeg4 or mpeg2 to mpeg4? |
| [16:07:00] | jono_: | juski, erm, I didnt set anything |
| [16:07:00] | juski: | that might be the issue then |
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| [16:07:00] | jono_: | what does the video come in as? |
| [16:07:00] | jono_: | in the nuv file? |
| [16:07:00] | juski: | mpeg2 |
| [16:07:00] | jono_: | right |
| [16:07:00] | juski: | assuming you're doing PVR or DVB |
| [16:07:00] | jono_: | pvr |
| [16:08:00] | jono_: | what would you suggest as settings to get the file size down and keep the quality? |
| [16:08:00] | juski: | so you need to use an mpeg2 to mpeg4 profile ;) |
| [16:08:00] | jono_: | :) |
| [16:08:00] | jono_: | should half the size of the file? |
| [16:08:00] | juski: | if you have time, experiment & see what you find acceptable. but don't mess with the settings it suggests you leave alone |
| [16:09:00] | jono_: | right |
| [16:09:00] | juski: | basically – at the defualt – it looks pretty good to my eyes & takes half the space |
| [16:09:00] | jono_: | so its in the transcoder settings right? |
| [16:10:00] | juski: | utils/setup settings – tv settings – recording profiles – transcoders |
| [16:11:00] | jono_: | yeah thats where I am |
| [16:11:00] | jono_: | there are a couple of settings, but how do you choose which setting to transcode with? |
| [16:11:00] | juski: | select 'from mpeg' |
| [16:12:00] | juski: | you can scale the video on the first or 2nd page |
| [16:12:00] | juski: | dunno how well that works |
| [16:12:00] | juski: | then on the final page you have bitrate & quality settings |
| [16:12:00] | jono_: | where is this? |
| [16:12:00] | jono_: | in the transcode settings? |
| [16:12:00] | juski: | yes |
| [16:12:00] | jono_: | From MPEG2 |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | yup |
| [16:13:00] | jono_: | and then select MPEG4 for the codec? |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | aha |
| [16:14:00] | laga: | juski: glad you liked my suggestion. would be cool if we could find a sponsor. |
| [16:14:00] | juski: | yes it would, would it? ;) |
| [16:15:00] | jono_: | ahhh its running now |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | juski: ;). what do you think of selling stuff with our logo on it? |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | s/of/about/ |
| [16:16:00] | jono_: | wow, so I can transcode and view tv and it doesnt affect it? |
| [16:16:00] | juski: | I'd buy a Tshirt, baseball cap... |
| [16:16:00] | laga: | juski: "kiss me, i'm the moderator" ;) |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | .. or as I said when I got a PM about it.. "**CK ME, I'm A MODERATOR!" |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | ;) |
| [16:17:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [16:18:00] | juski: | just a good thing the power never went to my head (muhahahahaha) |
| [16:20:00] | ** laga calls the ambulance for juski ** | |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | lol |
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| [16:28:00] | jono_: | just turned on DMA on DVD drive |
| [16:28:00] | jono_: | do I need to reboot? |
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| [16:28:00] | laga: | nope. |
| [16:28:00] | jono_: | cool |
| [16:29:00] | jono_: | does that stay permantly or will it be turned of fwhen I reboot next? |
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| [16:41:00] | juski: | jono: no idea |
| [16:42:00] | juski: | either way, not really a problem an rc script can't sort out ;) |
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| [16:45:00] | ** jono_ is documenting his MythTV box ** | |
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| [16:46:00] | juski: | I'm pondering celebrating the 4th anniversary of me joining this company today |
| [16:46:00] | ivor: | juski: is it a good company? |
| [16:46:00] | ivor: | if its a good company go and get drunk. |
| [16:47:00] | ivor: | if its a bad company... um... well go and get drunk. |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | sounds like a plan to me :D |
| [16:51:00] | juski: | but erm.. yeah it's a good company to work for (mostly). definitely better than my last job (sheesh that was soul destroying) |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | let's get PISSED! |
| [16:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: You need a half day. |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | I need a half-month |
| [16:59:00] | ** ivor schedules a considerable number of hoegaarden for this evening. ** | |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | not warm enough for wheat beer in my estimation |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | that's more a summer drink for me |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | now, some mulled wine... |
| [17:00:00] | ** juski suggests a case of Gentleman Jack might go down well this time of year ** | |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | gluhwein++ |
| [17:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. |
| [17:01:00] | Kelerion: | Stella for me please |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | spell it right (other than lack of accent), laga? |
| [17:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Just had a Stella draft the other night. I'll pass. |
| [17:01:00] | Krazylegz: | It wasn't bad, but I'm not a fan. |
| [17:01:00] | Kelerion: | oooh.. can't beat it.. |
| [17:01:00] | Kelerion: | it's got a nickname yanno |
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| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | pour 1.5L of red wine into pot. add spices... heat to just below boiling... drink |
| [17:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: There is an umlautte, so it would be Gluehwein in english. |
| [17:01:00] | Kelerion: | I bet juski knows it |
| [17:02:00] | juski: | I bet I don't ;) |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | I know there is, but this setup ain't letting me do accents |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | Glühwein (for our UTF8-freaks) |
| [17:02:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. okies.. its called "Wife Beater" |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | there |
| [17:02:00] | Kelerion: | am not joking |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:02:00] | juski: | oh.. nickname for Stella... |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:02:00] | juski: | Wife Beater |
| [17:02:00] | Krazylegz: | laga: Thanks for the umlautte goodness. |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | laga: good stuff |
| [17:02:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | and I like the red wine version better than the white wine version, personally |
| [17:03:00] | Kelerion: | see? lol |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | np ;) |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | there's gluehwein with white wine? never heard of that. |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | just don't drink too much Newcastle Brown Ale.. you might find out why the locals call it 'mad dog' |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | I could use a trip to Vienna... |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | yes, there is |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | different spice mix |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | nice |
| [17:03:00] | Kelerion: | urgh.. nasty stuff.. almost as bad as guiness |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | more citrusy than cloves if I remember right |
| [17:03:00] | Kelerion: | which isn't a drink.. it's food |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | i've got some gluhwein spice, but no cheap wine. |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | bad booze, but a very good laxative |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | I made my own spice mix |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | Kelerion: only the foam. the stuff under it is almost liquid |
| [17:04:00] | Kelerion: | almost? *chuckles* |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, a bit of cardamom, lemon zest... |
| [17:04:00] | ** laga likes guiness ** | |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | I think I'm missing something though, it's been a while |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | Beirdo: don't make me get drunk, i'm supposed to be studying ;) |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [17:05:00] | Kelerion: | if it ain't Stella or Carlsberg or Carling.. or at a push Fosters.. I don't wanna know |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | nothing as good as a pot of gluhwein to keep ya warm on a cold winter day |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | jono_: regarding your dma thingie: it'll go away after a reboot. add the hdparm command to your init scripts |
| [17:05:00] | juski: | right.. 40 mins overtime clocked up.. I'm outta here |
| [17:06:00] | juski: | see yous on the other side folks :) |
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| [17:06:00] | ** Kelerion decides whoever invented javascript needs shooting ** | |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | laga: yer a lucky bastard |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | Beirdo: of course, but why? |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | you get all the good drinks |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | yep. ;) |
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| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | I have like 2 cases of Merlot I made |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | I need to get durnk |
| [17:07:00] | ** laga has got a case of beer that has to be drunk ** | |
| [17:07:00] | Krazylegz: | I liked Germany, but I couldn't live there. I'm too much of an American, apparently. :-) |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | I loved Austria |
| [17:07:00] | Kelerion: | I'm alright.. I know my limits.. I don't have enough class to drink wine :) |
| [17:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: I was just going to say that. |
| [17:07:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: neither could i live in the USA ;) |
| [17:07:00] | Krazylegz: | I loved Switzerland too. |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | I couldn't live there either |
| [17:07:00] | laga: | Kelerion: beer is just fine. |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | but damn, Vienna is a fine city |
| [17:07:00] | wega: | I cannot seem to get my sony wega 27" TV to display anything, even with the latest nvidia drivers |
| [17:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, I could retire to Innsbruck. |
| [17:07:00] | wega: | anyone? |
| [17:07:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. works well enough for me :) |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | Krazylegz: works if yer a skiier |
| [17:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Not at all. |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | wega: start with a basic resolution like 800x600 or something |
| [17:08:00] | wega: | yeah i have done that as well |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | I hate snow too much to live in the Alps |
| [17:08:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess it doesn't matter where you live if you are just going to stay inside and play on the computer. |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, well put |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | wega: maybe it's expecting encrypted content on the DVI input? |
| [17:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: You live in Toronto? |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | unfortunately |
| [17:09:00] | wega: | i have been fighting this thing for over 10 hours straight |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: it matters where you live. i prefer to drink the good stuff when mythtv frustrates me ;) |
| [17:09:00] | wega: | i am using svideo laga |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | wega: oh, ok. |
| [17:09:00] | ** Beirdo can't wait to move... ** | |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | wega: you should say that ;). |
| [17:09:00] | ** laga is gonna occupy beirdo's condo ** | |
| [17:09:00] | wega: | laga: sorry i am new to irc |
| [17:09:00] | Kelerion: | not getting *anything* at all? |
| [17:10:00] | ** Beirdo wants to live in the Caribbean... oh wait... just a few months off. ** | |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | Beirdo: remember the expensive net connections there |
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| [17:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: You're actually moving down there? |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: beirdo is a lucky bastard. |
| [17:10:00] | wega: | kelerion: no nothing, i did have everything working at one point... then i rebooted |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | laga: I'll deal with it |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | Beirdo: heh |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | yes, as soon as I get a job offer.... |
| [17:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: Wow. That's awesome. Congratulations! |
| [17:10:00] | Kelerion: | wega.. nothing even during bootup? |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | or shortly before getting married |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | which ever comes first |
| [17:11:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you're getting married?!?!?! ;) |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | xris: silly boy... |
| [17:11:00] | wega: | kelerion i get to the point right before it goes to a status bar on boot up |
| [17:11:00] | Kelerion: | okies |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | yup, getting married. feel free to be scared |
| [17:12:00] | wega: | kelerion when i use a pc monitor everything is fine |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | marriage. if i was older, i'd get married in an instant, but it's very possible that i'd do stupid things at my age ;) |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | laga: you need a wife first, dude |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i have one ;) |
| [17:13:00] | Kelerion: | sorry wega.. am not a drivers expert.. others around here know more |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | oh oh |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | beer doesn't count |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehehe. sucker ;) |
| [17:13:00] | wega: | its ok any other channels you think i should try on irc |
| [17:13:00] | wega: | ? |
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| [17:15:00] | wega: | anyone out there good with video card drivers using svideo to a tv? |
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| [17:16:00] | laga: | wega: not me, but look at /var/log/xorg* or X* |
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| [17:16:00] | wega: | laga: i have messed around with that file so much, xorg.conf that is |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | wega: i'm talking about the log file |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | that could tell you what's going wrong |
| [17:17:00] | wega: | laga: i cant seem to get anywhere. it worked for a while yesterday and i even was watching live tv, but now i am here |
| [17:18:00] | wega: | laga: ok i'll look there, but it boots up fine as i can tell after i hot-switch it to a reg pc monitor |
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| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | wega: on many cards, the s-video must be plugged in when you turn on the computer |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | if it's not, the card may disable the output completely |
| [17:20:00] | wega: | yeah i start with the svid plugged in |
| [17:23:00] | jono_: | where do I set mythtv to automatically transcode when a program has been recorded? |
| [17:25:00] | wega: | laga: looking and the log files shows some validated modes for the monitor |
| [17:25:00] | wega: | well for the tv |
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| [17:29:00] | webbnetsys: | Greetings everybody. |
| [17:30:00] | webbnetsys: | I have a question about mythtv-setup. Do all the imputs supposed to be coming in from the cable?? |
| [17:30:00] | webbnetsys: | #video input |
| [17:30:00] | xris: | only enable the one that's actually connected to something |
| [17:31:00] | webbnetsys: | The cable coming in is Composite 0?? |
| [17:31:00] | webbnetsys: | I have a Haupage 350 |
| [17:32:00] | webbnetsys: | So it should look like "Composite 0 -> Cable" and everything else should be left blank then. Correct? |
| [17:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Should probably be tuner on a 350. |
| [17:33:00] | webbnetsys: | So "Tuner-> Cable"?? |
| [17:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah. |
| [17:34:00] | webbnetsys: | 2nd question, is when you click watchTV you should see video on the computer monitor, monitor and TV, or TV? Currently I am getting the graphics of the show, but not any video in. |
| [17:34:00] | webbnetsys: | I am using SuSE 10 and used the script from http://houghi.org/script/pvr350 to download and install everything. |
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| [17:36:00] | webbnetsys: | I finally got the IVTV drivers to install without any errors, but I don't know if I have to install ivtv-fb in order to get it to work or not. |
| [17:36:00] | webbnetsys: | Suse is running in FB mode since it boots from GRUB. |
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| [18:02:00] | Servo888: | Is lirc support compiled into mythtv by default? Looking through the ./configure --help it would seem as it does |
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| [18:03:00] | fryfrog: | i don't think so |
| [18:03:00] | fryfrog: | take a look at the configure file itself, it should be obviuos |
| [18:04:00] | fryfrog: | you can prolly throw in a --enable-lirc? |
| [18:04:00] | Servo888: | --disable-lirc is the only option |
| [18:04:00] | fryfrog: | that's... miss-leading |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | you should mention that you're running SVN ;) |
| [18:04:00] | fryfrog: | i re-wrote the ebuild for gentoo |
| [18:04:00] | fryfrog: | and *ALMOST* every ./configure -enable or --disable option EVEN if it isn't listed in --help |
| [18:04:00] | Servo888: | I'm not running xvn |
| [18:04:00] | fryfrog: | has the opposite |
| [18:04:00] | Servo888: | svn* |
| [18:04:00] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [18:04:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, *I* am running SVN is that what you meant? |
| [18:04:00] | Servo888: | Just the tarball from the site |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | not? ok ;) |
| [18:05:00] | fryfrog: | check the file configure, search for "lirc" |
| [18:05:00] | laga: | no, i thought that Servo888 was running svn. never mind then ;) |
| [18:05:00] | fryfrog: | but you can almost certainly use --enable-lirc |
| [18:05:00] | Servo888: | The gentoo ebuild is screwed up though. xvmc support breaks for some reason. |
| [18:05:00] | fryfrog: | i dunno why some options miss-imply there is only --enable or maybe --disable |
| [18:05:00] | laga: | last time i checked SVN, most of the --enable-foo thingies didn't work anymore because they were on by default |
| [18:05:00] | Chutt: | lirc is enabled by default. |
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| [18:06:00] | fryfrog: | "nvidia" you mean? |
| [18:06:00] | Chutt: | and only options that mean things, exist. |
| [18:06:00] | fryfrog: | got the nvidia drivers and a gf4+? |
| [18:06:00] | Servo888: | fryfrog, I've got a gf4, and nvidia drivers. |
| [18:07:00] | fryfrog: | it *might* be worth checking out the mythtv-svn ebuilds |
| [18:07:00] | Servo888: | How stable is the svn? |
| [18:07:00] | fryfrog: | i could tar mine up for you and attach to the bug listing in bugs.gentoo.org if they haven't been updated there |
| [18:07:00] | fryfrog: | a lot of people use it here |
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| [18:07:00] | fryfrog: | i've found that *most* of the time, its more stable than release :/ |
| [18:08:00] | Servo888: | I guess I could take a gander |
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| [18:08:00] | fryfrog: | though of course if you keep updating from svn you'll eventually get that "bad" update that can happen :) |
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| [18:08:00] | _willcooke_: | Does anyone know the xmltv ID's for BBC Three & Four? I think it's still choice and knowledge? |
| [18:09:00] | _willcooke_: | (This is for the RT listings) |
| [18:09:00] | Servo888: | fryfrog, where would I find the svn ebuilds? |
| [18:09:00] | fryfrog: | bugs.gentoo.org |
| [18:09:00] | fryfrog: | search for "ALL mythtv" |
| [18:09:00] | fryfrog: | i'll poke around, there are a ton of bugs but only one with the -svn ebuilds i think |
| [18:10:00] | fryfrog: | and they *may* be out of date, i recently re-built mine cause svn added a lot of new options |
| [18:12:00] | Servo888: | fryfrog, I get way to much information aith just ALL mythtv; mostly people saying use svn, but no ebuilds (at least not yet) |
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| [18:14:00] | fryfrog: | i know what you mean :( |
| [18:14:00] | fryfrog: | do you seen one about cvs ebuilds? |
| [18:14:00] | fryfrog: | they are attached to the one that *had* cvs ebuilds |
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| [18:15:00] | Servo888: | Yes |
| [18:15:00] | Servo888: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36760 |
| [18:15:00] | fryfrog: | 0.16 |
| [18:15:00] | fryfrog: | or 0.18 |
| [18:15:00] | fryfrog: | 0.13 is way old :0 |
| [18:16:00] | Servo888: | maybe I'll just do a svn checkout... |
| [18:17:00] | Servo888: | and forget about the ebuilds |
| [18:17:00] | fryfrog: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66337 |
| [18:17:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, sure that works too |
| [18:17:00] | kormoc: | or join #gentoo-mythtv and ask them? |
| [18:17:00] | Servo888: | Didn't know a channel like that existed |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | #beer-me |
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| [18:24:00] | deaddy: | hi all can i something? |
| [18:25:00] | deaddy: | can i ask something? |
| [18:26:00] | fryfrog: | nope, no asking allowed! |
| [18:26:00] | Servo888: | nope not here |
| [18:26:00] | fryfrog: | this is a channel for ummm... sstatements of opinion only! |
| [18:26:00] | Servo888: | In soviet russia question ask you! |
| [18:27:00] | deaddy: | ^^ |
| [18:27:00] | fryfrog: | actually, the only thing allowed is positive praise for mythtv! |
| [18:27:00] | deaddy: | hmm |
| [18:28:00] | deaddy: | i cant start mythtv so i cant do it |
| [18:29:00] | Servo888: | So what errors are you running into? |
| [18:30:00] | deaddy: | no errors program closes suddenly when i pressed finish |
| [18:30:00] | deaddy: | no gui or something else |
| [18:30:00] | poop: | Alright, now to get lirc working with this iMON thing |
| [18:30:00] | deaddy: | i want to enable dvb i have skystar2 |
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| [18:52:00] | adante: | does somebody have the patch to disable the autoscanning of dvb channels? |
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| [19:04:00] | FallingCow: | I have a single machine setup w/ FrontEnd & BackEnd. The backend stops responding several times (4 or 5) per week, usually while I'm sleeping or at work. ... |
| [19:04:00] | FallingCow: | Then I don't get recordings until I manually restart it. Is there a way to have a cronjob watch the backend and restart it if it stops responding? |
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| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | FallingCow, you could write something, sure |
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| [19:09:00] | FallingCow: | I am running 0.18.1 (KnopMyth R5A16), is there any known issues that might cause the backend to periodically stop responding like I' |
| [19:09:00] | FallingCow: | ...like I'm seeing? |
| [19:10:00] | Krazylegz: | My frontend dies sometimes, but not the backend. |
| [19:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm also on KnoppMyth R5A16. |
| [19:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I think. |
| [19:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Has anyone seen mchou lately? |
| [19:11:00] | FallingCow: | I have that too, I configured the power button on my remote to call mythpowerbutton.sh to stop or start the frontend |
| [19:12:00] | Filip^: | Updating the packages on my Gentoo Mythbox screwed it good. Could someone help me out? I seem to have several problems. (1) TV Out stopped working for my nVidia, (2) The MySQL database complains that the table is in an unsupported 3.20 format |
| [19:13:00] | Filip^: | Did anything change in recent Xorg that my video output stopped working? |
| [19:13:00] | Filip^: | The X11VNC connection still works |
| [19:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Filip^: 1. No, I can't. 2. You need to heed the messages when upgrading from MySQL 3 to MySQL 4 or later. |
| [19:16:00] | Filip^: | Okay, they scrolled by too fast... I'll try and look that up |
| [19:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Filip^: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mysql-upgrading.xml |
| [19:17:00] | Filip^: | thanks! |
| [19:18:00] | Krazylegz: | No problemo. |
| [19:19:00] | Servo888: | ./configure --enable-xvmc --enable-lirc |
| [19:19:00] | Servo888: | | lirc support stil is NOT enabled (from what is outputed). This is from the latest svn |
| [19:20:00] | Servo888: | I need to hit somebody... |
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| [19:25:00] | Servo888: | Hey! Look at me! I'm holding a gun to tux'es head! You better help me or he's gonna get it... poor penguin, he looks scared. |
| [19:25:00] | Servo888: | *quack* *quack* help me... *quack* |
| [19:26:00] | Filip^: | And I found out what's wrong with Xorg too (not that I can fix it yet, but that's step 2) |
| [19:29:00] | ** rjune slaps Servo888 for being stupid ** | |
| [19:30:00] | Servo888: | Penguins don't go quack? |
| [19:31:00] | Servo888: | What do you know... They don't go quack... |
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| [19:33:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [19:33:00] | Ediehow: | mythtv stopped working:O |
| [19:33:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–08 13:32:22.747 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [19:33:00] | Ediehow: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/myth/store//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [19:33:00] | Ediehow: | 2005-12–08 13:32:22.801 LiveTV not successfully started |
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| [19:37:00] | Ediehow: | oh haha |
| [19:37:00] | Ediehow: | woops |
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| [19:49:00] | simcop2387: | Servo888: i'm not sure how to get lirc support naitively either, i gave up and am still using irxevent |
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| [19:54:00] | Servo888: | simcop2387, I can't even get irxevent to work... irw returns all the correct information, but for some reason I don't think x is picking up my .lircrc file – because none of the binds are working. |
| [19:56:00] | _willcooke_: | Guys, what's the role of "call sign" in the channel config? |
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| [19:57:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: that's basically just a short name for the channel. fill in anything you want |
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| [19:58:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, Ok, so it's not too important then. I'm using DVB, how does myth know how to tune to that channel. Is that done on a channel /number/ look up? |
| [19:58:00] | laga: | umm, not sure, i'm not a dvb user |
| [19:58:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, I'll keep playing! |
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| [20:33:00] | Chutt: | beavis, stop using trac as a mailing list. |
| [20:34:00] | beavis: | you wanted to have feedback |
| [20:34:00] | beavis: | but ok |
| [20:34:00] | Chutt: | no, i didn't ask for feedback |
| [20:34:00] | Chutt: | i'm fucking tired of people chiming in with 'me too!' |
| [20:34:00] | poop: | </aol> |
| [20:35:00] | Chutt: | or asking stuff that's better suited to the actual dev list. |
| [20:35:00] | ivor: | ... or asking not development related questions on the dev list? :) |
| [20:35:00] | Chutt: | for that particular bug report, i asked _the reporter_ something |
| [20:35:00] | Chutt: | not you. |
| [20:36:00] | Chutt: | i don't give a flying FUCK what happening on your machine, in the context of that bug report. |
| [20:38:00] | poop: | You insensitive clod |
| [20:39:00] | beavis: | I'm just making QE for a big software company... that's my job normally ;) |
| [20:39:00] | Chutt: | and they tolerate littering bug reports with off-topic crap? |
| [20:40:00] | Chutt: | strangely enough, i want a bug report to be about the actual bug that's been reported. |
| [20:40:00] | Chutt: | not something else. |
| [20:40:00] | beavis: | I'm the one with most feedback postings in -dev, come on |
| [20:41:00] | beavis: | I'm writing tons of emails with djk, geoff and cpinkham to make myth better |
| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | and... that means you can fuck up trac because...? |
| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | the rules are different for you? |
| [20:43:00] | Chutt: | are you using a pvr-350 to display your video? |
| [20:43:00] | beavis: | I said it's crashing for me as well and I'll report tonight if it still happens |
| [20:43:00] | Chutt: | are you using a pvr-350 to display your video? |
| [20:44:00] | beavis: | nope, still dvb-t |
| [20:44:00] | Chutt: | then how does bug #754 apply to you? |
| [20:44:00] | beavis: | same behavior |
| [20:44:00] | Chutt: | which is also a hang, not a crash. |
| [20:44:00] | beavis: | for weeks |
| [20:44:00] | Chutt: | so? |
| [20:44:00] | Chutt: | it's not the same bug. |
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| [20:45:00] | Chutt: | your logs are completely different. |
| [20:45:00] | beavis: | I didn't send any logs |
| [20:45:00] | Chutt: | from before, you have. |
| [20:45:00] | Chutt: | live-tv with dvb being broken is a _completely_ separate issue from any other recording source. |
| [20:46:00] | Chutt: | anyway, if people keep abusing trac, it's going to be restricted to developers only. |
| [20:47:00] | ** rjune thinks Chutt's getting cranky with people ** | |
| [20:47:00] | Chutt: | yes, i am. |
| [20:47:00] | Chutt: | because nobody fucking listens. |
| [20:48:00] | beavis: | Captain_Murdoch: I still see the duplicate entries issue, should I send you the full BE log again? |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | you see duplicate entries because you're using dvb, and it's still broken for livetv. |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | and they're not duplicates, the starttimes are different. |
| [20:50:00] | beavis: | no |
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| [20:50:00] | Chutt: | since the starttime is a primary key, it _can't_ be the same. |
| [20:50:00] | Chutt: | unless mysql is completely broken. |
| [20:50:00] | Chutt: | which i tend to doubt. |
| [20:50:00] | beavis: | since I can start the file with both entries |
| [20:50:00] | Chutt: | that's due to something else. |
| [20:51:00] | beavis: | that's what I'm writing about for some days |
| [20:51:00] | beavis: | with cpinkham |
| [20:51:00] | Chutt: | it's all because of dvb. |
| [20:51:00] | beavis: | the dvb issue is a different one |
| [20:51:00] | Chutt: | no, it's because of the dummy recordings it makes. |
| [20:52:00] | beavis: | all livetv entries have the dummy recording entries |
| [20:52:00] | beavis: | all regular recordings have just two entries |
| [20:52:00] | beavis: | both poiting to the same file |
| [20:52:00] | Chutt: | whatever. |
| [20:53:00] | ** laga whistles ** | |
| [20:53:00] | ivor: | aarrgh mythtv crisis.... |
| [20:53:00] | ivor: | the batteries in my remote are flat. :) |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I think I might have asked you this before, but... Do you happen to use sipgate.de ? |
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| [20:54:00] | ** beavis uses sipgate ** | |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i have an account there, but i haven't used it yet |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, I was asked to add it as an outgoing trunk on an Asterisk server here, and it registers without a problem, and I can call the test extension(10000) but can't make any outgoing calls. So I wasn't sure if either I was missing a dialing prefix or if the guy who owns the account just hasn't paid for PSTN access :) |
| [20:56:00] | willc: | ivor, bash them together until you dent them! That always works for me! :D |
| [20:59:00] | beavis: | GreyFoxx: I'm using sipgate with an external router where an usual phone is connected to |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | beavis: YEah, most people I've talked to have been |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if there is a dialing prefix it's probably auto added by the device |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: did you try emailing them directly? |
| [21:00:00] | beavis: | It just works here, so I can't really help you |
| [21:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Not yet |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you should try that := |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | ;)* |
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| [21:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm waiting for the person who owns to account to reply to my message asking if he is positive he has external dialing privileges. He is "positive" that there is no dialing prefix :) |
| [21:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't care all that much, mostly curious. :) |
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| [21:02:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [21:26:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski! |
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| [21:28:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_! |
| [21:28:00] | Juski: | 'sup? |
| [21:28:00] | laga: | oO |
| [21:28:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I have a question... do you get duplicate channels with dvb? I get everything twice, so I've gone through and made one of each pair invisible, is that the correct way to do things? |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | okay stop playing the 'long lost lovers reunited' music now :) |
| [21:29:00] | _willcooke_: | mmmwahh |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | yeh _willcooke_ – I had that problem, though I kept trying to delete em only for them to reappear |
| [21:29:00] | _willcooke_: | Yes, exactly! |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | it settled down at one point, but I can't remember what changed |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | laga: the forum is a bit closer to its target $ for hosting now;) |
| [21:30:00] | _willcooke_: | It seems happy now, but I cant find the RT listings for More4, any ideas what name they give it? |
| [21:31:00] | _willcooke_: | more4.channel4.com doesnt work |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_ there's just been a posting on the users list about a new channel definition file for tv_grab_uk_rt |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | Juski: nice ;) |
| [21:31:00] | _willcooke_: | Right, I'll go look! |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | Juski: don't spoil my suggestions ;) |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | hey I wanna TShirt already :) |
| [21:32:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: you can add the definition yourself – it's very easy |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | Juski: hehhe |
| [21:33:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Yeah, I'm trying that, but I dont know what RT call it |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: hook yerself up to the radtiotimes xml feed ;) |
| [21:34:00] | _willcooke_: | Argh! Searching the mailing list doesnt sort by date! |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | you get a nice big fat list of all the definitions |
| [21:34:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, url? |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | erm... it's in the tv_grab_uk_rt script |
| [21:34:00] | laga: | you can make gossamer sort by date |
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| [21:35:00] | _willcooke_: | oh yeah! I see it! |
| [21:35:00] | Juski: | http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/channels.dat |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | fuck. CTRL W isn't 'find' in firefox |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [21:36:00] | _willcooke_: | ha! |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | add these lines to your channel_ids file in the tv_grab_uk_rt directory: |
| [21:37:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, so '1959' is the RT number, how do I convert that in to xmltv speak? |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | more4.channel4.com:1959:More4 #more 4 |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | itv4.itv.co.uk:1961:ITV4 #ITV4 |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | sky3.sky.com:1963:Sky Three #Sky Three |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | fuck. don't try anything that is said on irc. damn you, juski ;) |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | rofl |
| [21:37:00] | _willcooke_: | Ahh |
| [21:37:00] | _willcooke_: | what's that? rf -rf / ? Ok... |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | so I've done my 2 good deeds for the day... now that means I can be evil |
| [21:37:00] | _willcooke_: | or rm even |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | read mail – really fast / |
| [21:38:00] | ** kormoc ponders ** | |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | rf -rf is much, much safer though |
| [21:38:00] | _willcooke_: | :D |
| [21:38:00] | kormoc: | cat /dev/hda > /dev/hda |
| [21:38:00] | _willcooke_: | :)) |
| [21:38:00] | kormoc: | would that actually harm the data... |
| [21:38:00] | laga: | kormoc: i think so, if the hard disc is mounted |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | shouldn't laugh I did the rm -rf /* a long while aho |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | mounted? as in screwed in properly? |
| [21:38:00] | kormoc: | laga, yeah, but in theory it shouldn't cause it's just a byte to byte copy |
| [21:38:00] | webbnetsys: | Hey guys , When I click "Watch TV" I can see the channel for about 2 seconds and then it pauses. When I hit "ESC" it says that the video had a problem. |
| [21:39:00] | _willcooke_: | I saw someone dd their hdb in the ubuntu channel |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | kormoc: it might cause data inconsistency when data is being written to disc |
| [21:39:00] | webbnetsys: | How do I find out what the problem is. It isn't logging to the mythlog. |
| [21:39:00] | kormoc: | laga, very true |
| [21:39:00] | Juski: | webbnetsys: what kind of tuner you got? |
| [21:39:00] | webbnetsys: | I am using Haupage 350 |
| [21:39:00] | webbnetsys: | Brand new. |
| [21:40:00] | Juski: | when you did the testing with cat /dev/video0 > mplayer (or whatever) was it all good then? |
| [21:40:00] | webbnetsys: | INstalled it yesterday, and used the script http://houghi.org/script/pvr350 to install it. |
| [21:40:00] | webbnetsys: | Well,... Not really. |
| [21:40:00] | webbnetsys: | NOthing came out. |
| [21:40:00] | Juski: | probably a driver-ish problem then |
| [21:40:00] | webbnetsys: | SuSE also doesn't like ivtv-fb. |
| [21:41:00] | Juski: | the feeling's probably mutual ;) |
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| [21:41:00] | webbnetsys: | The TV gets a nice plaid color. |
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| [21:41:00] | _willcooke_: | oh my god, they've gone to plaid |
| [21:41:00] | webbnetsys: | Yes, I would rather have actual video, But I figured this was a MythTV feature. |
| [21:42:00] | _willcooke_: | </spaceballs> |
| [21:42:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: there was someone asking on the list today aswell about the issue of mythtv going off & adding new channels as & when it sees them (as in, preventing it)... some rumour of a patch to stop it apparently |
| [21:42:00] | webbnetsys: | You know, in case you want your TV to blend in with your 70's wallpaper. |
| [21:43:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I'm having enough trouble getting my head round this, let alone applying patches. |
| [21:43:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Turns out I'd all ready added more4 to the channel_is file, I wonder if it's case sensative? |
| [21:43:00] | Juski: | just leave em hidden.. and wait for them to annoy you when they still appear in various places |
| [21:43:00] | webbnetsys: | Juski: When i am loading the driver and removing it, the TV goes black. So I know it is doing something. |
| [21:43:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: this is Linux.. everything's case sensitive ;) |
| [21:44:00] | _willcooke_: | :D |
| [21:44:00] | webbnetsys: | When i tried the test signal, it complained that the module didn't accept that option. |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | what I really wanna know is.. is there any way to stop the shopping channels? Not just in mythtv.. |
| [21:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Juski: Isn't the Fed trying to pass a law saying that providers can sell individual channels? |
| [21:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Ideally, you could buy just the channels you want. |
| [21:45:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I've got a plan.... import a load of dodgy xmas lights from China, wait until they flog them off on BidUp and watch the studio burn... |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | I dunno, we've got no Fed here (yet) |
| [21:46:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't know where you is. |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | that said, I noticed "happy holidays" have arrived... God help us all |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | Krazylegz: UK |
| [21:46:00] | _willcooke_: | Eeek! |
| [21:47:00] | _willcooke_: | Kid's will be dressing up as pirates on halloween next, oh wait.. |
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| [21:48:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | webbnetsys: just done a quick google, and you might be glad to know you're not the 1st to have the problem you've got |
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| [21:49:00] | Juski: | but try www.mythonsuse.org if you've not already, webbnetsys |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | mythonsuse.org? never heard of that before *bookmark* |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | thanks juski |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | ughhh dammit.. stop recording Nathan Barley already! It wasn't funny the 1st time around... never been bit by that un before |
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| [21:52:00] | Juski: | laga: I'd not heard of it before either.. I still love my google, despite its faults |
| [21:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe you need a search directory, not a search engine. |
| [21:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Enter: YAHOO! |
| [21:53:00] | laga: | Juski: ;) |
| [21:53:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, |
| [21:53:00] | _willcooke_: | oops |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | ooo and I see Little Britain didn't record... as planned :D |
| [21:54:00] | _willcooke_: | arf! Worst Third Series Ever. |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | "I am the only catchphrase in the village" |
| [21:54:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
| [21:55:00] | _willcooke_: | Still funnier than "Man Stroke Woman" though |
| [21:55:00] | Juski: | best be careful, or we'll have someone reciting _that_ parrot sketch |
| [21:55:00] | ** Juski whistles ** | |
| [21:57:00] | _willcooke_: | bad bit of cast list: Matamula8Sello Maake Ka-Ncube at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 380 ..... WTF? |
| [21:58:00] | Juski: | top actor... his best work was MNENMGHjhgfghdj parts 1 & 2 |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | You know, I think I've seen that |
| [21:58:00] | Juski: | erm.. does the grabber fail or does it just burp that out & carry on? |
| [21:59:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh, it carry's on, must be some bad data in there. Hmm, still no more4, never mind, I'll fix it tomorrow. |
| [21:59:00] | Juski: | still no more4? |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | ahh is it in your .xmltv file in your ~/.mythtv directory? |
| [22:00:00] | _willcooke_: | Nah, I'm going to give up for the night |
| [22:00:00] | _willcooke_: | let me check... |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | if it's not, put it in there... that'll probably nail it ;) |
| [22:00:00] | webbnetsys: | Juski: Thanks. I'll check it out. |
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| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Argh! Only one channel in there, east.bbc1.bbc.co.uk, is that normal? Or should I replace .xmltv with the name of the video source? |
| [22:03:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
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| [22:03:00] | Juski: | did someone only add bbc1? ;) |
| [22:03:00] | Krazylegz: | BBC2 is where it's at. |
| [22:03:00] | _willcooke_: | It's the only thing worth watching! ;) |
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| [22:04:00] | _willcooke_: | Ah, it wasnt in the xmltv file I'm using at the moment! |
| [22:05:00] | _willcooke_: | right, gotta go. Cheers for the help |
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| [22:28:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone know any good windows webcam software with motion sensing and stuff? |
| [22:28:00] | fryfrog: | preferably free, maybe even oss? |
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| [22:29:00] | Krazylegz: | OSS? Windows? Does not compute. |
| [22:29:00] | Krazylegz: | /me's head explodes |
| [22:31:00] | fryfrog: | BZZZZT! |
| [22:31:00] | fryfrog: | i swear i've heard someone talk about some really good, free software... but heck if i recall the name :/ |
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| [22:36:00] | Krazylegz: | fryfrog: Maybe http://www.msagentsoftware.com/easyfreewebcam/ ? |
| [22:36:00] | fryfrog: | thanks, i r lookin! |
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| [22:47:00] | Juski: | time I wasn't here. see you tomorrow, problees |
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