| Tuesday, December 6th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | dhofstra_: | anyway, I used it as a livecd, apt-got mythtv and plugins, and it ran damn well on this pIII 600mhz as a live cd |
| [00:00:00] | mofu: | you prefer kde or gnome? |
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| [00:00:00] | dhofstra_: | someone should package up a 'live cd' frontend.. |
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| [00:00:00] | dhofstra_: | i like kde |
| [00:00:00] | mofu: | like KnoppMyth?? |
| [00:01:00] | rjune: | that's not a livecd |
| [00:01:00] | Zentar: | this channel has the guys who encode atlantis? |
| [00:01:00] | dhofstra_: | knoppmyth doesnt run a frontend as a livecd, though i thought it would only install |
| [00:01:00] | mofu: | yes it is |
| [00:01:00] | mofu: | it used to |
| [00:01:00] | rjune: | didn't about 2 months or so ago |
| [00:01:00] | SuPerher0: | guys how do you incorporate a directv reciever into mythtv (channel lineups) |
| [00:02:00] | dhofstra_: | i couldnt believe how well the livecd worked ... I was thinking it would choke on the mpeg2 streams |
| [00:02:00] | Zentar: | just wanted to know the general time period they release it was all.. i need to do some xmas shopping lol |
| [00:02:00] | mofu: | what a waste, they should drop the Knopp prefix if it doesn't run live |
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| [00:02:00] | Servo888: | I've got an unecrypted dvd (movies from one of those dvd recorders); I want to make an iso image of it – can I just use the dd command? |
| [00:02:00] | dhofstra_: | SuPerher0 if you are in the US, you can just add the directtv lineup to your zap2it listings |
| [00:03:00] | SuPerher0: | it wont let me |
| [00:03:00] | SuPerher0: | maybe i didnt see it |
| [00:03:00] | mofu: | SuPerher0: plug it into tv/encoder card |
| [00:03:00] | dhofstra_: | Servo888 dunno, but I use dvddecryptor under wine flawlessly.. it can make an iso just fine |
| [00:03:00] | mofu: | err, sorry, you asked about lineups, Zap2It has Direct |
| [00:03:00] | dhofstra_: | also DVDShrink works flawlessly under wine too... |
| [00:04:00] | dhofstra_: | wine got alot better now that it is beta |
| [00:04:00] | mofu: | Wine will be quite popular under OSX86 . . . |
| [00:05:00] | dhofstra_: | walmart music download even worked; although I cant play the damn DRM'd files... lol |
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| [00:07:00] | SuPerher0: | yea i have the lineups now, thx. BTW does anyone here watch satellite on mythtv |
| [00:07:00] | dhofstra_: | me |
| [00:07:00] | dhofstra_: | I have homebrew lirc transmitter (amplified version) firing off to two sat boxen |
| [00:08:00] | dhofstra_: | works flawlessly. the one thing I did is edit the change_channel_lirc script to send the 'exit' remote code right after sending the channel number info so that the sat boxes OSD cleared the screen right away |
| [00:08:00] | _nero_: | anyone here running spdif on a soundblaster live card?? |
| [00:10:00] | SuPerher0: | dhofstra_: so your transmitter controlls your mythbox, and your mythbox controlls your 2 dbs ird's, right? |
| [00:11:00] | dhofstra_: | SuPerher0: no, my homebrew lirc reciever recieves the commands from my remote, lirc then sends that info to mythtv, mythtv then sends the command back to lirc transmitter; transmitter led fires at sat box; sat box changes channel |
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| [00:11:00] | dhofstra_: | so, my remote stays sending myth signals,... not sat signals... |
| [00:12:00] | SuPerher0: | wow thats confusing as hell, hehe |
| [00:12:00] | dhofstra_: | lol |
| [00:13:00] | eidolon: | that's not different from any other 'secondary' system that needs to control an external tuner. such as a vcr. |
| [00:13:00] | eidolon: | er, no different. |
| [00:13:00] | dhofstra_: | my finger --> remote button --> ir signal --> caught by lirc reciever --> lirc sends command to mythtv --> myth sends command to lirc transmitter --> transmitter sends sat remote key to sat box. |
| [00:13:00] | SuPerher0: | but you use a IR-blaster thing ? |
| [00:14:00] | SuPerher0: | ok what is a lirc reciever? |
| [00:14:00] | dhofstra_: | I have made the homebrew reciever and homebrew transmitter.. they both work on the same serial port |
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| [00:14:00] | SuPerher0: | you have pics? or schematics? |
| [00:14:00] | dhofstra_: | many people run 1 instance of lirc to use their hauppauge remote as a reciever, and they buy a transmitter for the serial port run by 2nd instance of lirc |
| [00:15:00] | SuPerher0: | i have a rf serial port adapter |
| [00:15:00] | SuPerher0: | i mean IR |
| [00:15:00] | dhofstra_: | the lirc site has schematics. I once gmail'd someone a parts list .. I can forward it to you if you like.. it seems like a great project but probably takes more time and $$ than it is worth |
| [00:15:00] | SuPerher0: | yea i love collecting stuff like that |
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| [00:17:00] | dhofstra_: | gotta love gmail.. found it... whats your addy |
| [00:17:00] | eidolon: | i've had tons of lirc issues, alas. |
| [00:17:00] | eidolon: | sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. |
| [00:17:00] | eidolon: | and i'm ont getting errors on lircd or anything on startup. |
| [00:18:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm looking into a small, quiet frontend for the living room. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking about a mac mini |
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| [00:18:00] | dhofstra_: | eidolon I have a suggestion |
| [00:18:00] | eidolon: | lay it on me. |
| [00:18:00] | eidolon: | cuz it's annoying the bejezus out of me :) |
| [00:19:00] | dhofstra_: | in one terminal as root user, issue 'lircd --nodaemon' in another terminal issue irw or whatever.. watch both terminals for when it errors out... |
| [00:19:00] | eidolon: | irw? |
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| [00:19:00] | dhofstra_: | irw is where the terminal will repeat the names of your keys from lircd.conf |
| [00:19:00] | SuPerher0: | dhofstra_: i pm'd you the email |
| [00:20:00] | SuPerher0: | i want a gmail account |
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| [00:20:00] | dhofstra_: | lol no you didnt.. here let me getcha there |
| [00:20:00] | eidolon: | hmm. |
| [00:21:00] | dhofstra_: | eidolon i guess you could just use the lircd --nodaemon and that will show you messages that normally would go to the log while you use mythtv. |
| [00:22:00] | eidolon: | lircd-0.7.2pvr150[10329]: lircd(any) ready |
| [00:22:00] | eidolon: | okay, it's listening... |
| [00:22:00] | dhofstra_: | so when you notice it is no longer working/ switch to that terminal and see if there are any errors in the --nodaemon window |
| [00:22:00] | eidolon: | i can't get it -working- again :) |
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| [00:23:00] | dhofstra_: | for testing purposes, you could fire up irw in another window and press a key on your remote to see what both terminals spew out |
| [00:24:00] | ** eidolon fires up irw ** | |
| [00:24:00] | eidolon: | lircd-0.7.2pvr150[10329]: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [00:24:00] | eidolon: | no amount of buttonpushing does anything :( |
| [00:25:00] | dhofstra_: | did you setup your /etc/lircd.conf with actual buttons for your hauppauge remote? |
| [00:25:00] | eidolon: | it's -possible- this is a physical connection on the receiver. it was working before i moved things, but i also rebooted, restarted myth, etc etc etc. |
| [00:25:00] | eidolon: | yeah, this is knoppmyth. everything -was- working. i could navigate the menus and everything. |
| [00:25:00] | dhofstra_: | oh |
| [00:26:00] | dhofstra_: | well that will drive you bonkers.. heh |
| [00:26:00] | eidolon: | no kidding. |
| [00:26:00] | ** eidolon ee ahs oos. ** | |
| [00:26:00] | dhofstra_: | SuPerher0 did you still want that email? |
| [00:27:00] | eidolon: | after my son goes to bed i'll tinker with it more. |
| [00:27:00] | SuPerher0: | yes please |
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| [00:27:00] | SuPerher0: | i gave it to you in the pm |
| [00:28:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm looking into a small, quiet frontend for the living room. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| [00:28:00] | SuPerher0: | use a thinclient |
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| [00:29:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | superher0, was that directed at me? |
| [00:29:00] | SuPerher0: | dhofstra_: i see you spamming the pm but you cant see me? |
| [00:29:00] | dhofstra_: | nope |
| [00:29:00] | dhofstra_: | hrm |
| [00:29:00] | SuPerher0: | weird |
| [00:30:00] | SuPerher0: | i dont really want to post my email in this channel :P |
| [00:30:00] | dhofstra_: | send it to me same info as my username here without the _ at gmail |
| [00:30:00] | SuPerher0: | or here |
| [00:30:00] | SuPerher0: | its |
| [00:30:00] | SuPerher0: | Tommy |
| [00:30:00] | Nnyan: | hey anyone using MythTV with a lightweight distro? need something smaller then KnoppMyth |
| [00:30:00] | SuPerher0: | @42L.com |
| [00:30:00] | SuPerher0: | netbsd?? |
| [00:31:00] | dhofstra_: | there you go |
| [00:31:00] | mofu: | Nnyan: how about minimal Debian sarge install?? |
| [00:32:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | don't forget gentoo! |
| [00:32:00] | SuPerher0: | i got it dhofstra_ |
| [00:32:00] | SuPerher0: | thanks alot for the invite as well ! |
| [00:33:00] | Nnyan: | haven't thought about netbsd or Debian sarge, I tried Gentoo (stage 2 if i remember correctly) but it didn't like my hardware |
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| [00:33:00] | Nnyan: | my problem is that i'm a linux noob, not sure what I can take out or need to have |
| [00:34:00] | dhofstra_: | how much smaller do you need it than knoppmyth? isnt that still a cd? |
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| [00:36:00] | SuPerher0: | dhofstra_: i got the parts and the pics but there is no schematic |
| [00:36:00] | dhofstra_: | oh, the schematic for both was the ones at the lirc.org site... only my transmitter was the amplified one.. |
| [00:36:00] | mofu: | Nnyan: are you worried about disk space?? Kind of flys in the face of Myth, which LOVES big hard drives for TVm Movies, and Music |
| [00:37:00] | dhofstra_: | lol true |
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| [00:38:00] | Nnyan: | diskspace isn't an issue have a spare 300gb for movies and an 80gb for system, I want to get something very lightweight for performance and minimal overhead for some light weight frontends |
| [00:39:00] | mofu: | my current root directory is only 1.7GB, with quite a bit of working source code . . . . of course my media directory is 248 GB out of 328 GB available |
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| [00:39:00] | Hoxzer_: | now guys |
| [00:39:00] | dhofstra_: | well, just use a lightweight window manager.. do some people stilluse ratpoison? that was the wm of choice about a year ago |
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| [00:40:00] | mofu: | Nnyan: my mimimal Debian installs tick over about 5% on normal TV playback . . . . |
| [00:40:00] | mofu: | I've been using blackbox . . . . |
| [00:40:00] | Nnyan: | now that sounds like a good solution mofu |
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| [00:40:00] | mofu: | Do not under any condition install KDE or Gnome for a Mythbox |
| [00:40:00] | Nnyan: | would you happen to know a good step by step guide guide? |
| [00:41:00] | SuPerher0: | dhofstra_: i dont see any amplified schematics on that site |
| [00:41:00] | mofu: | I have some experimental Sarge Only packages . . . |
| [00:41:00] | dhofstra_: | here. letme find em |
| [00:42:00] | dhofstra_: | http://www.lirc.org/transmitters.html simple amplifier circuit .. 2nd diagram |
| [00:42:00] | dhofstra_: | for transmitter |
| [00:42:00] | dhofstra_: | http://www.lirc.org/receivers.html for reciever |
| [00:43:00] | mofu: | Nnyan: what type of tv and video cards do you have?? |
| [00:43:00] | Nnyan: | PVR500's and Nvidia FX5200 with TV out |
| [00:44:00] | dhofstra_: | you'll never see the cpu work with that setup |
| [00:44:00] | mofu: | excellent, you shouldn't have any problems . . . make sure you get the latest ivtv 0.4 drivers |
| [00:44:00] | dhofstra_: | i could run that on my PIII 600mhz with kde |
| [00:45:00] | mofu: | yep |
| [00:47:00] | dhofstra_: | ... while downloading with bittorrent, using GIMP, launching OpenOfficeWriter, and playing tuxracer.. heh |
| [00:47:00] | dhofstra_: | but if the screensaver would kick in.. then there'd be problems |
| [00:47:00] | Nnyan: | well this is more educational for me, I want to try to put together a lightweight distro that is purely PVR focused, figure I would learn alot about Linux and MythTV that way, doing background now |
| [00:48:00] | dhofstra_: | wonder if you could somehow make it work on DSL |
| [00:48:00] | dhofstra_: | (damn small linux) |
| [00:48:00] | dhofstra_: | 50mb small enough? |
| [00:48:00] | dhofstra_: | lol |
| [00:49:00] | dhofstra_: | THAT'D be cool, a usb mythfrontend... |
| [00:49:00] | Nnyan: | I know GreyFoxx is working on a USB frontend using Slax so I will prob start there |
| [00:49:00] | mofu: | Myth has a lot of dependencies . . . . |
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| [00:50:00] | Nnyan: | yeah thats the wall i'm running into |
| [00:51:00] | mofu: | my guess is that you could get a Myth Frontend Install on a 512MB CF card . . . . |
| [00:51:00] | mofu: | maybe less |
| [00:52:00] | mofu: | no real point in worrying about the size of the backend |
| [00:52:00] | dhofstra_: | heh, this is the one situation where guys want to have the smalles |
| [00:52:00] | dhofstra_: | or smallest even.. |
| [00:52:00] | mofu: | I have the BIGGEST . . . . |
| [00:52:00] | mofu: | lol |
| [00:52:00] | Brixius: | for a small distro fe, you could probably strip knoppmyth of the backend installer and it would fit on a 512 cf card, you can allready boot from cd frontend with it. |
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| [00:53:00] | mofu: | see, I'm no the only one who thinks Knoppmyth is a Live-CD Frontend . . . . |
| [00:54:00] | dhofstra_: | lol... lets see i'll go to the site |
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| [00:56:00] | ** dhofstra_ gave up ** | |
| [00:57:00] | mofu: | Installation instructions for the frontend(runs off of the CD! :) |
| [00:57:00] | mofu: | ^^^ quote from KnoppMyth website^^^^ |
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| [00:58:00] | Brixius: | dhofstra_: If you can make it smaller go for it. I'm guessing you can since the knoppmyth cd includes everything needed to install the backend as well. |
| [00:59:00] | ** dhofstra_ will not be making anything smaller.. heh.. just involved in the discussion ** | |
| [00:59:00] | ** dhofstra_ really still doesnt see the need ** | |
| [01:00:00] | tweak_st: | is it possible to start myth from console instead of xorg? |
| [01:00:00] | kormoc: | tweak_st, to do what? look at a list of recordings? |
| [01:01:00] | tweak_st: | i mean frontend and backend |
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| [01:01:00] | Brixius: | tweak_st: Look into X configuration and setup rights for the console to display apps on it. |
| [01:01:00] | kormoc: | tweak_st, that backend should start on boot, using one of the init.d scripts |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | to start the frontend on start of x, look into how your WM of choice autostarts programs. |
| [01:02:00] | tweak_st: | oh so i dont need fvwm |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | you do need a WM to use myth, or you will get focus issues from time to time. |
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| [01:04:00] | NightMonkey: | Hi, all. For you Gentoo users, have you updated your Myth box to gcc-3.4.4? Any gotchas/problems? |
| [01:04:00] | tweak_st: | well now i start it from fluxbox but i would like it if i could bypass the whole thing |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | NightMonkey, no issues here |
| [01:06:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: Do you have 0.18.1, or SVN? |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | .18.1 |
| [01:06:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: Good to hear. Thanks! :) |
| [01:09:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: Oh, one more question – any perceptible responsiveness change post-upgrade? I wouldn't really expect one, but... |
| [01:09:00] | DeltaF: | Is there an easy way to use yum to get all of the perl dependencies for xmltv? |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | NightMonkey, not that I could tell |
| [01:10:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: OK, that's what I expected. Thanks again. |
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| [01:17:00] | Topslakr: | I've got a wierd problem but the error msgs keep changeing. The problem happens when I try to 'Add New music to the Database'. It scans and then crashes. The first time it took a long time, I assume adding new music. and now it scans much much faster but still crashes when it gets to 100%. |
| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | you might have a very badly tagged file |
| [01:17:00] | Topslakr: | at first i was getting an error about trying to draw nothing with the blame on a widget. Now the error is about an undefined symbol.. |
| [01:18:00] | Topslakr: | Also, It says 'Corrupt JPEG data: Bad Huffman Code |
| [01:18:00] | Topslakr: | but that error doesn't seem to be the fatal one |
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| [01:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Any way to get MythGallery to work with animated GIF images? |
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| [01:21:00] | Brixius: | is there a way I can tell myth to record what I'm currently watching, including the ring buffer? |
| [01:22:00] | Kelerion: | I think thats in development at the moment |
| [01:22:00] | _nero_: | Brixius- I dont beleive so in 0.18, but you can in SVN. |
| [01:22:00] | mofu: | Brixius: next version . |
| [01:22:00] | _nero_: | ugh... who thought digital sound could be so frustrating.. |
| [01:22:00] | Brixius: | ok, bummer, just saw something I wanted to keep. |
| [01:23:00] | mofu: | _nero_: very . . . |
| [01:23:00] | Kelerion: | very.. it's still not working right for me.. and what I do have.. I fluked.. lol |
| [01:23:00] | Topslakr: | I'm getting: Mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/mibmythmusic.so: undefined symbol: mp4ff_open_read |
| [01:24:00] | Topslakr: | any ideas? |
| [01:24:00] | _nero_: | Just got Logitech Z5500's, and have a SB Live 5.1, and all I want to do is have the SB live output from its digital out.. |
| [01:24:00] | Kelerion: | and whats it doing? |
| [01:25:00] | _nero_: | me?? Not outputting a darn thing |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | _nero_, did you check to see if it's even supported? |
| [01:25:00] | _nero_: | kormoc, yes, it is. |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff |
| [01:25:00] | Kelerion: | does it play from normal output? |
| [01:25:00] | eidolon: | hmmm. |
| [01:25:00] | _nero_: | Kelerion, yes- analog out works fine |
| [01:25:00] | eidolon: | has anyone ver used a joystick for MythTV operation, rather than a remote? |
| [01:25:00] | Rust710: | I've read the manual, and it says there is a transcoding option, that is per-program, that will remove commercials from saved recordings. I'm not able to find it, am I missing something? |
| [01:26:00] | eidolon: | i have USB joysticks hooked up fulltime specifically for playing games. why can't i juse use one of them as my mythtv remote? |
| [01:26:00] | Kelerion: | does it have a iec958 toggle in alsamixer? and is it on? |
| [01:26:00] | _nero_: | no iec958 toggle, but there are 3 iec958 volume controls.. all are set to 66. |
| [01:27:00] | Kelerion: | no "IEC958 Output" output? |
| [01:27:00] | Kelerion: | wierd |
| [01:28:00] | _nero_: | there is "SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack" which is a toggle.. and is on. |
| [01:29:00] | eidolon: | aha. joystickmenurc |
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| [01:30:00] | Kelerion: | you read the digital sound howto yet? |
| [01:31:00] | Kelerion: | or tried jarod's asoundrc? |
| [01:31:00] | _nero_: | yup.. went through it, and still no go.. |
| [01:31:00] | _nero_: | both.. |
| [01:31:00] | _nero_: | and jarod's is supposed to work with SB Live 5.1 cards.. |
| [01:31:00] | Kelerion: | thats what I was thinking |
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| [01:33:00] | Kelerion: | I have a Cmedia card in my box.. it "just works" after installing alsa and unticking the "mute" option for "IEC958 Output" – haven't gone into any more depth than that |
| [01:33:00] | Kelerion: | sorry – can't be more help |
| [01:33:00] | _nero_: | Kelerion strange.. that is in alsamixer? |
| [01:33:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
| [01:33:00] | Kelerion: | you have that installed? |
| [01:33:00] | _nero_: | yup.. |
| [01:34:00] | Kelerion: | what dist? |
| [01:34:00] | _nero_: | FC4 |
| [01:34:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. same here |
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| [01:34:00] | Kelerion: | FC4 combo/fe/be and seperate ubuntu frontend |
| [01:35:00] | Kelerion: | correction.. *was* ubuntu FE.. till I did a re-install and ubuntu is now broken.. so put fc4 on that as well |
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| [01:36:00] | Kelerion: | I didn't even have to add anything to modprobe.. was just really easy |
| [01:36:00] | Kelerion: | not rubbing it in or anything.. just my experience with the cmedia card and spdif |
| [01:37:00] | _nero_: | I think I'll try installing this livedrive.. it seems to have settings for IEC958 LiveDrive. |
| [01:37:00] | Kelerion: | is it optical or that other one? |
| [01:37:00] | _nero_: | the other one.. coax. |
| [01:37:00] | _nero_: | the optical has a mute switch.. |
| [01:37:00] | Kelerion: | ahh.. mines optical.. might be a difference? |
| [01:37:00] | _nero_: | unfortunately, I dont have an optical cable.. |
| [01:37:00] | Kelerion: | I use the coax one from my dvd to amp/rec |
| [01:38:00] | Kelerion: | you didn't get one with the card? |
| [01:38:00] | _nero_: | no.. its an ooooold old card.. |
| [01:38:00] | _nero_: | (from ~2001) |
| [01:39:00] | Kelerion: | I bought this card because it had optical out and in.. and bought a seperate old Satellite box (UK) because it had optical out (new ones don't.. wierd huh?) then figured I can use optical in *and* out at the same time.. unless I'm doing it wrong.. which I must be because it sounds daft |
| [01:40:00] | Kelerion: | can't use..even |
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| [01:41:00] | Kelerion: | I read (I think it was on the mailing list) that I couldn't use optical in *and* out because the pvr250 doesn't handle optical in.. or something.. I give in at that point and left it alone.. lol |
| [01:42:00] | cout_: | hmm, mythfrontend has been using 70% cpu for 12 hours now |
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| [01:43:00] | Kelerion: | I still get 5.1 but I think it's a "pseudo 5.1" from alsa.. because I'm not using a digital input.. just stereo from amp |
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| [01:43:00] | Kelerion: | not amp.. av reciever/amp |
| [01:44:00] | Kelerion: | am happy with what I have though.. and I don't understand it enough yet to mess with it and end up screwing it all up and messing WAF.. lol |
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| [01:49:00] | Kelerion: | whats LiveDrive? *goes to look it up* |
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| [01:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Kelerion: LiveDrive is a Creative majigger. |
| [01:52:00] | Kelerion: | majigger? lol |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | ahh .. |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | got it |
| [01:53:00] | Kelerion: | 5–1/4 drive bay controller |
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| [01:54:00] | Kelerion: | not sure I like the idea of cables coming out of the front of my box.. prefer cables hidden at the back.. but I'm fussy.. lol |
| [01:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, you can get an external LiveDrive, I think. |
| [01:56:00] | Kelerion: | that wouldn't be so bad then |
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| [02:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | anybody on here with multiple backends sharing their storage directory over NFS? |
| [02:25:00] | Kelerion: | nope... sorry |
| [02:25:00] | Kelerion: | tried it.. couldn't make it reliable |
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| [02:25:00] | Goshen: | ok, need some help here, I have a TV plugged in to my svideo out on my mythtv box running on an ATI 9800 PRO, the video plays on the monitor instead of the tv, how do I switch the primary display? |
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| [02:26:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | works fine here, but my 2nd backend is down at the moment so I can't test to see if something I think is a bug is actually a bug. |
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| [02:26:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | video will play on the same screen that mythfrontend displays on |
| [02:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | do you want them on the same (ie, TV) or on separate? |
| [02:27:00] | Kelerion: | does it need to be multiple backends? I can test something with a single backend to seperate nfs server |
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| [02:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Kelerion: nah, my backends store to a remote NFS server. I've got a question about the disk usage when there are multiple backends sharing storage. I think the disk usage is calculated wrong but can't test myself right now. |
| [02:28:00] | Kelerion: | ahh okies.. sorry can't help then |
| [02:28:00] | Goshen: | Captain_Murdoch: no, the display shows on both, and the video plays on the monitor not the tv, I want them both to play on the tv |
| [02:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | might fire up one on my dev box so I can test. |
| [02:29:00] | Goshen: | Captain_Murdoch: this is a very common problem in windows, and I know how to fix it there, its in the driver settings |
| [02:29:00] | tstm: | Anyone here has experience with WinTV Nova-T USB2? |
| [02:29:00] | Kelerion: | you think it's calculating the usage wrong? |
| [02:29:00] | Goshen: | Captain_Murdoch: happens all of the time when I go to a seminar and the gui shows just find on the projector, but the video always plays on their laptop screen and not on the projector |
| [02:29:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Goshen: are they separate X displays (ie, 0.0 and 0.1 or 0.0 and 1.0, etc..) |
| [02:29:00] | Goshen: | no, they are the same |
| [02:29:00] | Goshen: | what I see on the tv, I see on the monitor |
| [02:29:00] | Goshen: | except video |
| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sounds like an ATI card to me :) |
| [02:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Kelerion: there is some code to make slaves not count their space if they share storage with the master, but I think that code might have been taken out accidentilly a while back because I can't find it where I thought it was. |
| [02:30:00] | ** braniff thinks that almost all usb devices don't work with linux... ** | |
| [02:30:00] | Goshen: | http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_3.12.0.html |
| [02:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: do you have multiple backends sharing NFS storage? |
| [02:30:00] | Goshen: | towards the end, it describes a fix, for the x96config |
| [02:31:00] | Goshen: | butI am runnning xorg |
| [02:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Nope, my slave is currently storing to it's local drive, but the master writes to an nfs store |
| [02:31:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. |
| [02:31:00] | Kelerion: | Captain_Murdoch.. gotcha |
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| [02:32:00] | Kelerion: | while we're on the subject.. and yeah.. it's still OT.. does anyone know a *good* nfs server for windows? |
| [02:33:00] | Goshen: | I think I will try to unplug the monitor and reboot |
| [02:33:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Kelerion: are you implying SFU isn't. :) |
| [02:34:00] | Kelerion: | I tried that.. but for the life of me couldn't get my linux box to connect to it.. so I tried allegro.. and it *killed* the windows machine.. any writing to the nfs share whacked the cpu to 90%.. which i thought was ridiculous |
| [02:34:00] | braniff: | is it possible to 'revert' to a previous rpm version ?? |
| [02:34:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Kelerion: yeah, we haven't found it to be the most stable thing in the world sometimes either. |
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| [02:36:00] | Kelerion: | I have 4x250gb/raided drives sitting in my dev machine.. and I'm using a total of a 5 gb.. so I though hey.. would be nice to use that as storage for my myth box.. pfft.. lol |
| [02:38:00] | Kelerion: | and samba has a 2gb limit.. afore anyone thinks of it.. lol |
| [02:39:00] | braniff: | what you need is an nfs 'client' for windows |
| [02:39:00] | braniff: | so can put the raid array in your myth box |
| [02:39:00] | Kelerion: | dev machine is a windows |
| [02:39:00] | Kelerion: | -a |
| [02:40:00] | Kelerion: | huh? |
| [02:40:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. I see what you mean |
| [02:40:00] | braniff: | tv is FAR more important than software development heh |
| [02:40:00] | Kelerion: | but.. I love the difference in speed I get on my dev machine with a raid array |
| [02:40:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
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| [02:41:00] | Kelerion: | actually.. it's website development and NFS/MW (only game I own! lol) |
| [02:41:00] | eidolon: | BOOYAH. joystick control is working. |
| [02:42:00] | Kelerion: | I bought myself a kickass new machine.. first I've ever bought from a shop.. and I would *love* to run linux on it.. but I can't.. drivers for the m/b and raid just refuse to work |
| [02:43:00] | Kelerion: | plus.. I have 3x17 tft displays.. and I would *dread* trying to get that working under xorg |
| [02:43:00] | Kelerion: | 17" even |
| [02:44:00] | jams: | you must have a really old version of samba or didn't compile it with large file support |
| [02:45:00] | Kelerion: | one with FC4 |
| [02:45:00] | _nero_: | well.. got it working.. |
| [02:45:00] | _nero_: | turned on everything in alsamixer, and something got it running.. |
| [02:45:00] | Kelerion: | nice one nero.. |
| [02:45:00] | Kelerion: | so.. you fluked it like me? lol |
| [02:45:00] | _nero_: | I think it was "line" being unmuted.. |
| [02:46:00] | _nero_: | pretty much. ;) |
| [02:46:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [02:46:00] | Kelerion: | but.. *my* line in is muted.. lol |
| [02:46:00] | _nero_: | now I just need to get spdif working through xine.. :) |
| [02:46:00] | _nero_: | not line in.. |
| [02:46:00] | _nero_: | there was "line" and "line in" |
| [02:46:00] | Kelerion: | ah |
| [02:46:00] | dhofstra_: | soundblaster live? |
| [02:47:00] | Kelerion: | ahh yes.. just "line" is muted |
| [02:47:00] | _nero_: | dhofstra_, yes |
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| [02:47:00] | _nero_: | SBLive 5.1 |
| [02:47:00] | dhofstra_: | good luck figuring out what all those things do... lots of them are wrong.. someone tried to map them online for the 5.1 but it got messy |
| [02:47:00] | _nero_: | hehe.. yeah.. with that livedrive and everything, this card has more inputs and outputs.. |
| [02:47:00] | dhofstra_: | sometimes things like front refers to bass or stupid crap like that |
| [02:48:00] | _nero_: | 3spdif outs, and 2 spdif in.. |
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| [02:50:00] | dhofstra_: | been there ... done that .. .had it working ... some months it'd spontaneously not work suddenly ... got a 20 dollar herculese gamesurround has like 10 inputs (the correct ones) and sounds great |
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| [02:53:00] | dhofstra_: | _nero_ http://alsa.opensrc.org/SBliveMixer |
| [02:54:00] | dhofstra_: | ROFL |
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| [02:59:00] | _nero_: | dhofstra_, did you actually get through all that?? lol |
| [02:59:00] | _nero_: | I got music and xine working with it.. so I am almost there.. :) |
| [03:04:00] | dhofstra_: | lol |
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| [03:31:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Hmm... I think samba doesn't have a 2GB limit anymore. |
| [03:33:00] | Kelerion: | it doesn't? it did on FC4 about 4/5 months ago |
| [03:33:00] | Kelerion: | might give it another go.. or try to compile myself |
| [03:33:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Dunno about your distro's compile options. If they compiled it with Large File Support, then it should be ok. |
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| [03:34:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Another tip – if mounting a samba share on your Linux box, use "-t cifs" rather than "-t smbfs" – about double the speed for me. |
| [03:35:00] | Kelerion: | I tried that...hmm.. I had another problem.. can't remember what it was now.. probably worth spending more time on |
| [03:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Haven't tested if that improves Windows -> linux client speed, YMMV. |
| [03:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: I share via CIFS to Windows for watching shows – no problems for files over 2GB. |
| [03:35:00] | Kelerion: | which dist? |
| [03:35:00] | NightMonkey: | CIFS/Samba, that is. |
| [03:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Gentoo. |
| [03:36:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. so a compile might fix it then.. worth a try.. thanks :) |
| [03:36:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: No problem. Good luck. |
| [03:38:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Just my opinion, but I would think Fedora would have fixed that issue by now. |
| [03:40:00] | Kelerion: | I just give Fedora a yum update a week ago.. so I might try it again before uninstalling and compiling |
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| [03:44:00] | Kelerion: | of course.. if I could get linux (any dist!) to install on an ATI Xpress 200 mobo.. I wouldn't have these probs. .lol |
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| [03:44:00] | quantum_: | I am trying to compile something that says it wants an older version of ncurses. what is the best way to handle this so that I can compile it |
| [03:45:00] | Kelerion: | no new version of the program? |
| [03:45:00] | quantum_: | no |
| [03:45:00] | Kelerion: | cvs etc? |
| [03:45:00] | quantum_: | no, it is an older program |
| [03:46:00] | Kelerion: | you could try symlinking the deps.. and forcing it.. but it's unlikely |
| [03:47:00] | Kelerion: | depends on the program/dist/deps etc etc |
| [03:47:00] | quantum_: | hmm, there is no general way to handle this type of problem? |
| [03:49:00] | Kelerion: | I don't know if ncurses allows multiple versions and if there'd be any conflict |
| [03:50:00] | quantum_: | guess I could try and figure out where the program is specing out that version and change it also |
| [03:51:00] | quantum_: | ln -s libncurses.so.5.4 libncurses.so.1.9.9e |
| [03:51:00] | quantum_: | that didn't work |
| [03:51:00] | Brixius: | I think I broke my myth :( I tried compiling and installing the svn myth on knoppmyth, apparently that doesn't work. |
| [03:52:00] | Kelerion: | quantum.. doesn't work too often.. but worth a try |
| [03:52:00] | quantum_: | yeah guess I'll try and change the code |
| [03:52:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: I found a thread in the Gentoo Forums on your mobo – it doesn't look pretty, but, from my skim of it, it looks like only kernels > 2.6.12 have some support, and disabling apic on boot appears to help some stuffs. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-304540-p . . . tart-50.html . Many of the solutions aren't Gentoo-specific, but YMMV. |
| [03:53:00] | Kelerion: | never installed gentoo before.. but have the disks |
| [03:53:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Again, some of the solutions don't require Gentoo – might help with other distros. |
| [03:54:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: The noapic boot option (or the apic=debug) might help? |
| [03:54:00] | Kelerion: | I tend to do that by default anyways when I'm installing.. saves tons of problems later |
| [03:54:00] | Kelerion: | but will bookmark it and read it in the morning (it's 4am!) lol |
| [03:54:00] | Kelerion: | thanks for the tip! |
| [03:54:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: No sweat. |
| [03:55:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Many complaints on the Gentoo Forums relate to video driver support for ATI (not very good), so you won't be out of the woods, yet, I'm afraid... |
| [03:56:00] | Kelerion: | I have an onboard ATI x300 driving one monitor and a pci-e x700 driving the other two (trips monitor setup) so should be fun.. lol |
| [03:57:00] | Brixius: | how can I tell what version of the backend vs frontend I'm using is there something like a --version option to print the version? |
| [03:57:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Wow, You're a Frontiersman. ;) |
| [03:59:00] | Kelerion: | Brixius, tells you in the logs when you starup backend.. or run frontend from console and it'll tell you there |
| [03:59:00] | Brixius: | ok, thanks |
| [03:59:00] | Kelerion: | NightMonkey.. I just like lots of realestate.. and it makes people go "wow" when they see it.. lol |
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| [04:00:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: I was referring to your heavy use of ATI's stuff for Linux. :) |
| [04:00:00] | Hoxzer_: | are youu readyy for the good timeee |
| [04:00:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. lol |
| [04:00:00] | quantum_: | I was thinking about builing a network terminal linux box, but I guess I probably could not run myth on that could I |
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| [04:01:00] | Kelerion: | NightMonkey, this is the machine: http://www.computerelectronics.co.uk/acatalog/TarusST2.html |
| [04:01:00] | quantum_: | I mean off my main server on the remote terminal |
| [04:01:00] | Kelerion: | and put in a few more hd's |
| [04:01:00] | quantum_: | man I have 300GB and it is like nothing |
| [04:01:00] | Kelerion: | actually is a damn good deal for what you get.. but as it turns out.. not linux-friendly |
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| [04:02:00] | quantum_: | how much HD space do most people ahve |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Looks neat, just that ATI's support of F/OSS hasn't been very, well, attentive, to say the least. |
| [04:03:00] | NightMonkey: | quantum_: 350GB here, but I wish I had more ;). |
| [04:03:00] | quantum_: | seems like 1 TB would be optimium until I figure out how to do HDTV |
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| [04:03:00] | quantum_: | but I think I only have room to add in more more drive |
| [04:04:00] | NightMonkey: | quantum_: My box is a Shuttle, so two drives max, in its current config. |
| [04:04:00] | quantum_: | bummer, swap them out for 400's |
| [04:05:00] | NightMonkey: | quantum_: Yeah, I think I'll wait a bit for even higher density drives. Alwasy Just Around The Corner(tm). ;) |
| [04:05:00] | Kelerion: | NightMonkey, the ATI website says it supports it.. but am not convinced |
| [04:05:00] | Kelerion: | http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html |
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| [04:05:00] | quantum_: | might move one of my 160's to another PC and put in a 400, of course I have no clue how to pull that off since the filesystem spans two drives |
| [04:05:00] | Kelerion: | but the driver is proprietary so am not suprised |
| [04:06:00] | quantum_: | NightMonkey, : I am just waiting for the 400's to drop in price then I am getting one, it will be the cheapest byes |
| [04:06:00] | quantum_: | NightMonkey, : I gout by last 160 for something like 60 bucks |
| [04:06:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: So is NVIDIA's, but they have been more forthcoming with support/assistance to the Kernel folks, so things have been a bit smoother. Yes, it would be great if they just offered open source drivers, but... |
| [04:07:00] | Kelerion: | yeah.. I know.. sucks.. oh well.. |
| [04:07:00] | Kelerion: | anyways.. gone 4am.. heading off to bed... |
| [04:07:00] | Kelerion: | g'night all! have fun! |
| [04:07:00] | NightMonkey: | quantum_: Yeah, incredible how cheap storage is nowadays. |
| [04:08:00] | NightMonkey: | Kelerion: Cheers. Nite. |
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| [04:08:00] | NightMonkey: | OK, time to burn some DVDs. bbl. |
| [04:12:00] | Brixius: | well this is kindof fusterating, I have mythbackend 18.1 and frontend 19 |
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| [04:12:00] | Brixius: | and thats what I got from the svn co |
| [04:13:00] | jemarcks: | I cant exit mythvideo with the 'esc' key.. its haning. anybody seen this? |
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| [04:17:00] | pearcec_com: | Importing CDs doesn't work? What is a good method for debugging? |
| [04:18:00] | kormoc: | jemarcks, do any key presses work? |
| [04:18:00] | pearcec_com: | Could not open cdrom_fd: No such file or directory |
| [04:18:00] | pearcec_com: | Failed on cd_init_device: No such file or directory |
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| [04:35:00] | hobiga: | has anyone updated their ivtv drivers lately with yum? I bought a new pvr350 card and need to install the ivtvdev package but I'm getting "Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: atrpms" |
| [04:39:00] | DarkBeer: | stable dir is missing (for fc4 anyhow |
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| [04:40:00] | hobiga: | hmm..looks like I might have to go to testing |
| [04:41:00] | hobiga: | if I want to get this working tonight |
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| [04:42:00] | DarkBeer: | i just changed my atrpms.repo so it pointed to /testing instead of /stable for now |
| [04:43:00] | hobiga: | have you had any issues with the testing drivers? My 250 card is working and I don't want to screw the whole system up just cause I'm impatient |
| [04:45:00] | DarkBeer: | haven't used them to this point. I changed it just to get past the error like you are receiving. I guess I should'ved just pulled atrpms stable from my yum config for now |
| [04:47:00] | hobiga: | well my impatience is going to get the best of me no matter what. here goes nothing. |
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| [04:53:00] | hobiga: | strange but in the testing branch there is no ivtv stuff |
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| [04:58:00] | typewriter: | hello, i am thinking of setting up mythtv on an old celeron 600mhz, i am reading the requirements and i can see it would be able to run at low res |
| [04:58:00] | typewriter: | but why does it need so much cpu power to watch TV ? |
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| [04:59:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | depends on what you want to use it for and what kind of TV cards. I use a Celeron 466 for my main frontend. It won't play HD, and the screen refreshes are a tad slow sometimes, but it works for my mpeg-2 recordings from the ivtv driver. |
| [04:59:00] | pembo13: | hi guys, i am in need of help to finish my mythtv install |
| [05:00:00] | pembo13: | i am getting either out of sync (too early) sound or no sound at all |
| [05:00:00] | pembo13: | if i put of the sound from tv card, using kmix, as some suggested, i get no sound |
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| [05:00:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you're probably not setup to record from the right input. |
| [05:01:00] | pembo13: | if i leave the mixer settings in a way that tvtime works, i get sound but it is earlier than the video |
| [05:01:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's cause Myth records and then plays back and tvtime doesn't |
| [05:01:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the howto covers that. |
| [05:02:00] | pembo13: | well could you point me to the part of the howto which solves this problem, I have been through it, but i guess i missed that |
| [05:02:00] | pembo13: | sound from music is working, btw |
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| [05:04:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | try this http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.ht . . . ooting_Audio |
| [05:04:00] | pembo13: | thank you |
| [05:05:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html covers your out-of-sync audio |
| [05:10:00] | typewriter: | the tv card i havent decided yet, im shopping around. i just want to watch TV and have it all integrated like use the PC's dvd drive and play videos on the computer itself. I know you can do this without myth tv, but i want to make it more integral.. |
| [05:10:00] | typewriter: | like instead of clicking around to load different things, just see the mythtv menu and select from there |
| [05:10:00] | typewriter: | so i dont need to encode anything i dont think |
| [05:10:00] | typewriter: | so i should be fine? |
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| [05:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | if you had a card with hardware encoding you'd be OK. |
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| [05:27:00] | poop: | Anyone know if those boot-type Rockport shoes should feel like they're falling off when you walk? |
| [05:27:00] | poop: | I figure it's late enough to go off-topic. |
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| [05:28:00] | rjune: | there's a topic? |
| [05:28:00] | pembo13: | i am tring my best to follow the howto on setting up alsa mixer |
| [05:28:00] | pembo13: | but i can't seem to mute my aux in capture mode from alsa mixer |
| [05:29:00] | pembo13: | should i mute it in playback> |
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| [05:30:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | is it possible to port mythfrontend as a native xbox app, or would it's dependencies make it impossible? |
| [05:33:00] | poop: | You might want to ask an xbox development channel. |
| [05:33:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yeah, I might try that |
| [05:33:00] | poop: | Everything used in mythtv is open sorez at least, but it sounds like a lot of work. |
| [05:34:00] | poop: | A lot has been ported to win32 already though |
| [05:34:00] | poop: | Who knows how that compares to xbox |
| [05:35:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm just worried that x and qt will be needed, and not be able to run on the slow xbox processor |
| [05:35:00] | kormoc: | poop, what has been ported to win32? |
| [05:36:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | theres winmyth |
| [05:36:00] | kormoc: | withmyth is just plugins for wmp and a hacked up interface taht doesn't actually work |
| [05:36:00] | kormoc: | it's not a real port |
| [05:36:00] | poop: | kormoc: ffmpeg |
| [05:36:00] | poop: | Qt |
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| [05:37:00] | GorgJr: | hey |
| [05:37:00] | poop: | You just need quicktime for xbox. |
| [05:37:00] | GorgJr: | any mythtv guru's around |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | I don't beleive myth uses ffmpeg, I beleive nuvexport uses ffmpeg |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | poop, qt isn't quicktime. |
| [05:38:00] | poop: | kormoc: correct |
| [05:38:00] | GorgJr: | I start up mythtv, and start watchign tv, it plays for roughly 3 seconds. then it freezes, and goes black, then back to the main menu.. any ideas? |
| [05:38:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | pembo13: sure, give it a try. you don't want the capture muted, you want the playback muted. |
| [05:38:00] | poop: | kormoc: But there is a quicktime renderer in mythtv. |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | poop, anyway, I beleive Chutt was saying a few days ago that porting it to windows was a lot more work then people think |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | poop, ooh? where would it be located? |
| [05:39:00] | poop: | kormoc: Can you narrow your question? |
| [05:39:00] | kormoc: | poop, where in myth is this quicktime render located |
| [05:40:00] | kormoc: | because myth only supports 3 video formats, mpeg2, and mpeg4 and rtjpeg in a nuv container. |
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| [05:42:00] | pembo13: | FINALLY SUCESSS |
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| [05:43:00] | PaulWay[w]: | In nuvexport when printing 'x of y frames', why is y about 1.5 orders of magnitude larger than it should be? |
| [05:44:00] | kormoc: | PaulWay[w], nuvexport only guesses the frame count, it's not very accurate. |
| [05:44:00] | PaulWay[w]: | E.g. I've just compressed a half-hour show that reckoned it had 657576 frames, and it got to 37471 and finished. |
| [05:45:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Admittedly this is with a cut list, but the cut is probably only 10% in from the end... |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt: | the quicktime format decoder is in mythtv/libs/libavformat/, btw. |
| [05:45:00] | PaulWay[w]: | kormoc: Is that done in mythtranscode or nuvexport? |
| [05:45:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, but is it actually used in mythfrontend for recorded tv? |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | PaulWay[w], I beleive it is done in nuvexport, and I beleive the issue is with newer versions of transcode that changed how they calculate the frames. |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | not for recording it |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | but it's there. |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | and compiled, and playback works. |
| [05:46:00] | PaulWay[w]: | kormoc: it seems to have been this way since I was using 0.17... |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | kk. fair nuff, but adding quicktime to the xbox won't help with porting myth. |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | because myth uses ffmpeg :p |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, ahh, oops :P |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | PaulWay[w], yeah, I beleive it's a issue with transcode or ffmpeg, whichever is the default, not mythtranscode. |
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| [05:47:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Right. Curse. |
| [05:48:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Not that it means much, I know enough to ignore it by now. |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | PaulWay[w], at least, that's my rememberence. Might wanna poke at https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ and see if there's already a ticket about that |
| [05:48:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The FPS is fairly accurate, and I can work it out by dividing from 25 FPS. |
| [05:49:00] | pembo13: | quick question, how do i record something that i am watching? |
| [05:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Press 'r' on the keyboard. |
| [05:50:00] | pembo13: | or must i use the record menu to schedule ? |
| [05:50:00] | pembo13: | ok thanks |
| [05:50:00] | pembo13: | pressing r again would stop it, right? |
| [05:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | If you've got a remote set up, you should be able to press it's 'record' button. |
| [05:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I think so. It's been a long while since I've done that. |
| [05:50:00] | ** Gumby is trying to think of a good way to sort his data. 1x200gb 3x80gb 1x40gb 1x20gb. I was using LVM but it seems to be a bit flaky thus far. ** | |
| [05:50:00] | Gumby: | anyone have any suggestions? |
| [05:51:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | what would you guys suggest as a good frontend for a living room that is quiet and low cost? |
| [05:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The Via EPIA machines work pretty well. |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, lvm isn't /that/ bad. I've heard good things about evms ontop of lvm. |
| [05:52:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: well, I keep getting bad fs errors and then the volume is all of a sudden switched to read only. |
| [05:52:00] | PaulWay[w]: | AFAIK there's an install for running a front end on one either via network boot or local disk. |
| [05:52:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, that would be how it's designed, sounds like one of your drives are going bad. |
| [05:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Gumby: That's pretty odd – I'm using LVM and have no problems. What is the flakiness? |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby: | Dec 5 20:22:09 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device dm-0): ext3_readdir: bad entry in directory #42844167: rec_len is smaller than minimal – offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0 |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby: | Dec 5 20:22:09 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device dm-0) in start_transaction: Journal has aborted |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, you're not using rieser are you? |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: nope, ext3 |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby: | I made the mistake of LVM+reiserfs once |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby: | heh |
| [05:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You're using ext3 on that? |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | kk, rieser + lvm == death it seems. |
| [05:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hmmm,. |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby: | PaulWay[w]: see what kormoc said |
| [05:53:00] | Gumby: | heh |
| [05:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I use lvm and xfs. |
| [05:54:00] | Gumby: | lvm is too flaky in situations where power loss is a possability |
| [05:54:00] | Gumby: | err |
| [05:54:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, have you done a full forced fsck on it? |
| [05:54:00] | Gumby: | reiserfs |
| [05:54:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Unfortunately it means I can't shrink my partition. |
| [05:54:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: yeah, whenever the errors happen. |
| [05:54:00] | kormoc: | and fsck comes out clean? |
| [05:54:00] | Gumby: | it recovers just fine. but then within a few days I get the errors again |
| [05:54:00] | rjune: | take the money you would save on windows, and purchase a battery |
| [05:54:00] | PaulWay[w]: | lvm may not be the cause of your flakiness... |
| [05:54:00] | Gumby: | PaulWay[w]: it may not be. But if a drive is failing then its not an option at the moment. |
| [05:55:00] | Gumby: | I am in the process of backing up right now |
| [05:55:00] | kormoc: | actually, how large is your LVM? |
| [05:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have you got smartmon and looked into the smart information? |
| [05:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | kormoc: 500GB would be my estimate. |
| [05:55:00] | Gumby: | then I'll break up the LVM and see if Ican deduce which drive is causing the trouble (if it is a single drive) |
| [05:55:00] | Gumby: | about 430 something |
| [05:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I'd suggest trying to replace some of the smaller drives with a newer, single larger one. |
| [05:55:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [05:56:00] | Gumby: | /dev/mapper/4474-storage 425G 34G 371G 9% /storage |
| [05:56:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Oh well, back of head calculation... |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, do you have a block number for the errored read/write? |
| [05:56:00] | Gumby: | PaulWay[w]: hehe, in an ideal world I'd have the money to do that |
| [05:56:00] | pembo13: | umm, another question, once i have used "left" to go backwards in time, how do i go back to normal time? |
| [05:56:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: one sec, let me check the logs |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | I seem to recall reading about a issue with LVM + ext3 + large arrays with it screwing up and miscalulating blocks as way way way beyond the end of the drive array |
| [05:56:00] | PaulWay[w]: | pembo13: are you using stickykeys? |
| [05:57:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ext3 doesn't handle creating and deleting very large files well. Use xfs or jfs. |
| [05:57:00] | pembo13: | PaulWay[w]: i don't yet know enough to say yes or no, but i would say no |
| [05:57:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: this is all I see..... |
| [05:57:00] | Gumby: | Nov 28 01:20:03 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device |
| [05:57:00] | Gumby: | Nov 28 01:20:03 localhost kernel: dm-0: rw=0, want=24416840488, limit=905314304 |
| [05:57:00] | Gumby: | thats in /var/log/messages |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | that's the error |
| [05:57:00] | PaulWay[w]: | That's definitely it. |
| [05:57:00] | kormoc: | yeah... |
| [05:57:00] | ** kormoc trys to recall the fix ** | |
| [05:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Use xfs. |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | PaulWay[w], ext3 is surprisingly simple to recover large filesystem errors on tho ;) |
| [05:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | pembo13: what does the 'right' key do? |
| [05:58:00] | Gumby: | so dont use ext3? |
| [05:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | kormoc: I'm not a file system expert, I'm just saying what's working for me. |
| [05:58:00] | Gumby: | use something else like xfs or reiser? |
| [05:59:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Every guide I've seen – Jarod's, for instance – says to use xfs or jfs, or if you _really_ need to, reiser. |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, can you dumpe2fs -h /dev/vgx/lvx and make sure that the directory inode is valid? |
| [05:59:00] | Gumby: | reiser has been unstable for me. xfs I have 0 experience with |
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| [05:59:00] | GorgJr: | hey |
| [05:59:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: does it need to be unmounted? |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | it's just dumping info about the filesystem |
| [05:59:00] | GorgJr: | well, mythtv runs for like 2 seconds, then it goes back to the main screen... anyon have problmes like that? |
| [05:59:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: I am just xfering 40gb of data to another drive. Does the drive need to be freshly fsck'd? |
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| [05:59:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I've been using xfs and despite a few power failures and lockups it's never had a problem. |
| [05:59:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, not at all |
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| [06:00:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: ok, one second |
| [06:00:00] | ** PaulWay[w] touches the piece of wood he keeps for situations when he's said something like that. ** | |
| [06:00:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Nope, as long as it's been added to the volume group. You're doing a pvmove, yeah? |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | PaulWay[w], sadly, I've had experence in rebuilding a bunch of data off of my ext drives, and I'm happy in the fact that I know a bit about my filesystem to deal with my own stupidy :) |
| [06:00:00] | pembo13: | PaulWay[w]: seemms like just changing channel ryncs me |
| [06:01:00] | PaulWay[w]: | kormoc: I'm not arguing with you :-) |
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| [06:01:00] | PaulWay[w]: | pembo13: ryncs? |
| [06:02:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | is mythfrontend on a mac mini a good idea? Does it really run well on osx? |
| [06:02:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, what kernel version are you using? |
| [06:02:00] | GorgJr: | okay this is really weird.. mythtv starts up jsut fine, audio/video work fine.. then it crashes after like 2 seconds and goes back to the main menu... |
| [06:02:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: 2.6.8.1–24mdk http://ultimate.kicks-ass.net/errors/lvm-dumpe2fs.txt |
| [06:02:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: which 'main menu'? |
| [06:02:00] | Gumby: | wait, wrong kernel |
| [06:02:00] | GorgJr: | mythtvfrontend |
| [06:03:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Gumby: I was going to say 'that's an awful old kernel'... |
| [06:03:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: its a debian kernel thats been compiled by myself. 2.6.8-myth |
| [06:03:00] | GorgJr: | mythfrontend |
| [06:03:00] | Gumby: | hehe, just as old |
| [06:03:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: is this when you play live TV? |
| [06:03:00] | GorgJr: | yeah |
| [06:03:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, vanilla sources? |
| [06:03:00] | GorgJr: | I have 2.1gb free... |
| [06:03:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: I forget. its been some time. |
| [06:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: and what happens when you try to play a recording? |
| [06:04:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: I compiled and tested so many. had issues with newer kernels and ivtv |
| [06:04:00] | GorgJr: | I do'nt have any recordings... |
| [06:04:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: I believe it was a debian source |
| [06:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Ah, crap, it's going to rain when I want to go out to dinner. |
| [06:04:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: yes, it was a debian source kernel |
| [06:05:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, hrm. The patch to fix that issue was to have gone into 2.6.4. I wonder if perhaps a debian specific patch screwed it up |
| [06:05:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: hrm, which patch was it... how can I figure it out? |
| [06:05:00] | kormoc: | (and by the way, there's a way to speed up ext3's direectory lookups quite a bit with htrees) |
| [06:05:00] | GorgJr: | fuck |
| [06:06:00] | GorgJr: | this makes no sense |
| [06:06:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, it was part of the large block-device patch |
| [06:06:00] | PaulWay[w]: | 75 Km/h storm front approaching... |
| [06:06:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [06:06:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, I would try using a newer vanilla kernel if I was you. |
| [06:06:00] | pembo13: | how do i watch an inprogress recording? |
| [06:07:00] | kormoc: | cause yeah, that directory is a valid inode so fsck should have been able to fix it. |
| [06:07:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: Is the front end running from a command line? |
| [06:07:00] | kormoc: | pembo13, go into recorded programs and select it and watch it |
| [06:07:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: I gave it a shot. I had issues with ivtv being VERY choppy with them |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, I'm using 2.6.15 with ivtv .4.0 and it's been fine with my m179 (pvr 250 rebranded) |
| [06:08:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: the front end might be outputting some useful debug. |
| [06:08:00] | GorgJr: | hrmm |
| [06:08:00] | pembo13: | kormoc: i thought so, but it shows no recordings |
| [06:08:00] | Gumby: | hrm. maybe I can try 2.6.15 |
| [06:08:00] | Gumby: | did you apply any other patches? |
| [06:08:00] | Gumby: | just vanilla source? |
| [06:08:00] | pembo13: | kormoc: however, when i go to watch tv it says that i am currently recording something |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | just vanilla |
| [06:08:00] | GorgJr: | PaulWay[w], , it records fine... |
| [06:08:00] | Gumby: | kernel.org ? |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [06:08:00] | GorgJr: | I set it to record without watching and it did it just fine |
| [06:09:00] | GorgJr: | 2005-12–06 01:09:17.428 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [06:09:00] | GorgJr: | 2005-12–06 01:09:17.889 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait |
| [06:09:00] | GorgJr: | 2005-12–06 01:09:18.402 prebuffering pause |
| [06:10:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: rc1, 2 ,3, 4, or 5? |
| [06:10:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: and you can watch that recording? |
| [06:10:00] | GorgJr: | Paul yeah noproblems... |
| [06:10:00] | GorgJr: | but watching livetv messes up... |
| [06:10:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, I've been going though all of them, currently running 5 |
| [06:10:00] | GorgJr: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [06:10:00] | GorgJr: | 2005-12–06 01:09:37.430 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [06:10:00] | GorgJr: | 2005-12–06 01:09:37.430 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [06:10:00] | PaulWay[w]: | OK, so what does the front end log say when you try to watch live TV? |
| [06:10:00] | GorgJr: | i get a few of those.. |
| [06:11:00] | GorgJr: | there a place to paste to? |
| [06:11:00] | PaulWay[w]: | www.pastebin.ca |
| [06:11:00] | Gumby: | rafb.net/paste |
| [06:11:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I think there's even a pastebin.com now, but we don't mention it here. |
| [06:12:00] | GorgJr: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/I2S0pL30.html |
| [06:12:00] | PaulWay[w]: | And does the mythbackend log say anything at that time? |
| [06:13:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: that makes me think that there's some problem with mythfrontend communicating on port 6543 or whatever local socket it uses with the backend. |
| [06:13:00] | GorgJr: | okay |
| [06:13:00] | GorgJr: | it should be fine |
| [06:13:00] | PaulWay[w]: | But if you can watch a recorded program, it uses the same protocol, and that works. |
| [06:13:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have you googled the error? |
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| [06:13:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: hrm, I only see patches. I have no idea how to apply the patches |
| [06:14:00] | kormoc: | you need to download .14 and then apply each patch one at a time |
| [06:14:00] | Gumby: | gah |
| [06:14:00] | Gumby: | heh |
| [06:15:00] | GorgJr: | hmm weird |
| [06:15:00] | GorgJr: | Paul no |
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| [06:15:00] | GorgJr: | i know its weird because I can watch tv just fine via.. mplayer /dev/v4l/video0 |
| [06:15:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I don't think there's a problem with the TV input device. |
| [06:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I think there's a problem with the communication between the front end and the back end. |
| [06:16:00] | GorgJr: | weird |
| [06:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Those 'remote encoder not responding' errors look like good google fodder. |
| [06:16:00] | GorgJr: | maybe i'll change it from the loopback address to my actual ip |
| [06:16:00] | poop: | I kind of forgot to buy a p.s. for my new htpc case. |
| [06:18:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: worth a try... |
| [06:18:00] | PaulWay[w]: | poop: ups-a-daisy! |
| [06:19:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: There was someone who had this problem in May 2005 on the MythTV users list |
| [06:19:00] | PaulWay[w]: | No solution seen, though. |
| [06:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Got it. |
| [06:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: http://pvrguide.no-ip.com/bbs/index.php?showtopic=4600 |
| [06:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Google is your friend. |
| [06:22:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have you set up the live TV storage directory correctly? |
| [06:22:00] | PaulWay[w]: | And can Mythbackend write to it? |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
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| [06:24:00] | GorgJr: | hrmm |
| [06:24:00] | GorgJr: | PaulWay[w], it seems to be the storing... |
| [06:24:00] | GorgJr: | yeah |
| [06:24:00] | GorgJr: | i turned down the storing |
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| [06:27:00] | GorgJr: | ok in the setup.. I have a 5GB Live TV Buffer, but my Minimum Free Live TV buffer (before forcing an unpause) is at 4GB is that right |
| [06:27:00] | GorgJr: | or is that okay |
| [06:28:00] | nuonguy: | Is this a bad place to ask about building mythtv? |
| [06:28:00] | PaulWay[w]: | No, but don't do it from the current svn trunk. |
| [06:28:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: do I need to apply the patches from rc1–5 or just rc5? |
| [06:28:00] | nuonguy: | why not? |
| [06:29:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, 1–5 |
| [06:30:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: you're killin me here man |
| [06:30:00] | Gumby: | hehehe |
| [06:30:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [06:31:00] | adante: | what might be causing mythbackend to start using all available cpu? the log (with -v all) shows a stack of [2005-12–06 16:30:30.529 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: Ignore 'Transcode' Job for 1022 @ 20051203202700 in Finished state.] but that's all |
| [06:31:00] | GorgJr: | nice |
| [06:31:00] | GorgJr: | mythtv is operating well |
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| [06:31:00] | adante: | this happens pretty regularly, maybe once every 2–3 days |
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| [06:31:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: It also seems that there's a solution in this: "am in PAL land and had set my LiveTV capture settings (Uitlities/Setup->Setup->TV Setup->Recording Profiles->MPEG2 etc..->Live TV) to the max allowed of 768x576. Changing this to 720x576 solved the problem! I know that sounds too easy to believe (especially if you have done 5 clean installs!) but its always worth a shot to see if it helps you..." |
| [06:31:00] | GorgJr: | yeah PaulWay[w] , I got it fixed... |
| [06:32:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Was that it? |
| [06:32:00] | GorgJr: | it was my livetv storage |
| [06:32:00] | GorgJr: | and my min free |
| [06:32:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Right. |
| [06:32:00] | GorgJr: | stupidness |
| [06:32:00] | GorgJr: | but 1:30 stupidness |
| [06:32:00] | poop: | neat, new nvidia drivers |
| [06:32:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Put up a page on the internet with a pasting of your logs and an explanation of your solution, and you'll be able to help others :-) |
| [06:32:00] | nuonguy: | poop: where? |
| [06:32:00] | poop: | nuon: nvidia.com |
| [06:32:00] | GorgJr: | true |
| [06:32:00] | GorgJr: | will do |
| [06:33:00] | nuonguy: | oh |
| [06:33:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Glad we got it fixed for you, GorgJr! |
| [06:34:00] | nuonguy: | PaulWay: I guess what I really wanted to know was whether doing a make/make install was going to overwrite my current mythtv installation |
| [06:34:00] | PaulWay[w]: | make install will, make won't. |
| [06:34:00] | PaulWay[w]: | make just leaves all the executables in their respective directories. |
| [06:35:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You _should_ be able to run a binary from within the source directory and it run OK, but you may have to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include the freshly compiled libraries. |
| [06:35:00] | nuonguy: | I guess I'll have to --configure-prefix=/home/mythuser/bin ... or something |
| [06:35:00] | nuonguy: | Well, the problem I had was that mythplugins was looking for a header I didn't want to install |
| [06:37:00] | nuonguy: | That nvidia driver thing, man that's such a pita |
| [06:37:00] | GorgJr: | man mythtv is great ;) |
| [06:37:00] | PaulWay[w]: | GorgJr: :-) |
| [06:37:00] | nuonguy: | I run FC4, everything was working great until I installed the latest nvidia driver from nrpms |
| [06:37:00] | GorgJr: | heh |
| [06:37:00] | GorgJr: | still alot to figure out with it |
| [06:37:00] | GorgJr: | not rocket science but great |
| [06:38:00] | nuonguy: | First off, it ran kudzu which overwrote my modprobe.conf |
| [06:38:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: hrm, ok.. I am a little bit confused. I am in the vanillal 2.6.14.3 kernel (/usr/src/linux-2.6.14.3) and I did patch -p0 < ../patch-2.6.15-rc1 am I missing something here |
| [06:38:00] | GorgJr: | modprobe.conf |
| [06:38:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, in all fairness, that wasn't the nvidia driver, that was the rpm you got. |
| [06:38:00] | Gumby: | it is asking for the file to patch |
| [06:38:00] | nuonguy: | And then, when I finally figured that out, and started running again, watching TV will hard hang X |
| [06:38:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, try -p1 and -p2 and -p3 |
| [06:38:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, I never remember what the magic p number is |
| [06:38:00] | nuonguy: | kormoc: You think I'd have better luck just running the installer from nvidia.com? |
| [06:38:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, yup |
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| [06:39:00] | nuonguy: | hm |
| [06:39:00] | nuonguy: | k |
| [06:39:00] | nuonguy: | I'll try that |
| [06:39:00] | Gumby: | ah, I see the patches need to be in the kernel dir possibly |
| [06:39:00] | kormoc: | hrm... not sure. I throw mine in there, so I never tried otherwise |
| [06:40:00] | Gumby: | -p1 seems to work |
| [06:40:00] | kormoc: | yeah, it's the 'patch level', it's sorta automagic that patch does |
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| [06:42:00] | Gumby: | patching file arch/s390/appldata/appldata_base.c |
| [06:42:00] | Gumby: | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] |
| [06:42:00] | Gumby: | ?? |
| [06:43:00] | Gumby: | sorry to bug you with this. I am quite ignorant with apply kernel patches |
| [06:43:00] | Gumby: | I can barely compile patches ones. hehe |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | I would hit n |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | basically it's asking you if you want to unpatch the kernel |
| [06:44:00] | kormoc: | those patches are against 2.6.14 I beleive, not 2.6.14.3 |
| [06:44:00] | Gumby: | ah |
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| [06:49:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: do you possible have a .config I could "borrow"? |
| [06:49:00] | nuonguy: | PaulWay[w]: do I have to subscribe to the dev mailing list to find out the status of the trunk? |
| [06:50:00] | Gumby: | only my gf knows the status of my "trunk" |
| [06:50:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, svn.mythtv.org |
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| [06:50:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, sure, I do, but my .config is rather customized to this specific box |
| [06:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | nuonguy: well, you can read the archives and watch the mythtv.org site. |
| [06:51:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: gah, applied patch1, patch2 gives warnings... |
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| [06:51:00] | Gumby: | Hunk #5 FAILED at 3656. |
| [06:51:00] | Gumby: | 1 out of 5 hunks FAILED — saving rejects to file CREDITS.rej |
| [06:51:00] | Gumby: | patching file Documentation/00-INDEX |
| [06:51:00] | Gumby: | patching file Documentation/Changes |
| [06:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | If you really want mail overload then, sure, subscribe to the dev list. |
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| [06:52:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, you can ignore the Credits rej |
| [06:52:00] | ** Gumby gives up. ** | |
| [06:54:00] | kormoc: | heh, sorry |
| [06:54:00] | nuonguy: | That's just it: I'm already suffering from mail overload |
| [06:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have fun, all. I'm off to hunt down some dinner. |
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| [06:55:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, go to the site I said, and click on timeline |
| [06:55:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: can I go through just hitting enter for all the previously patched files? heh |
| [06:55:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, yeah |
| [06:55:00] | kormoc: | you really shouldn't have many conflicts. |
| [06:56:00] | Gumby: | well, it seems to be in the docs |
| [06:56:00] | Gumby: | Skipping patch. |
| [06:56:00] | Gumby: | 1 out of 1 hunk ignored — saving rejects to file Documentation/RCU/torture.txt.rej |
| [06:56:00] | Gumby: | patching file Documentation/RCU/whatisRCU.txt |
| [06:56:00] | Gumby: | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] |
| [06:56:00] | kormoc: | you can not worry bout the docs |
| [06:57:00] | Gumby: | hrm |
| [06:57:00] | Gumby: | patching file arch/alpha/kernel/time.c |
| [06:57:00] | Gumby: | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] |
| [06:57:00] | Gumby: | Apply anyway? [n] |
| [06:57:00] | Gumby: | Skipping patch. |
| [06:58:00] | Gumby: | all I have done is this.... patch -p1 < patch-2.6.15-rc1 and then patch -p1 < patch-2.6.15-rc2 |
| [06:59:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [06:59:00] | kormoc: | maybe it's unified patchsets now? |
| [07:00:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [07:00:00] | Gumby: | I have no idea |
| [07:00:00] | kormoc: | try just -5 |
| [07:00:00] | kormoc: | on .14 stright |
| [07:01:00] | kormoc: | or just try .14 cause none of the .15 fixes should really affect you |
| [07:02:00] | Gumby: | well, as I said. I had issues with .14 with ivtv for some reason |
| [07:02:00] | kormoc: | with .4.0? |
| [07:04:00] | Gumby: | yeah |
| [07:04:00] | Gumby: | maybe I was just doing something wrong |
| [07:05:00] | Gumby: | I think that was with debian sources as well |
| [07:10:00] | nuonguy: | Gumby: Out of curiosity, why are you patching? |
| [07:10:00] | Gumby: | nuonguy: kernel 2.6.14 |
| [07:10:00] | nuonguy: | what for? |
| [07:10:00] | Gumby: | anyhow, 2.6.14.3 is compiling. we'll see how it performs in about 45 minutes |
| [07:11:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:11:00] | Gumby: | nuonguy: to bring it up to 2.6.15-rc5 |
| [07:11:00] | nuonguy: | What's in rc5? |
| [07:11:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, if you have any issues, let me know tomorrow and I'll see what I can do to help |
| [07:11:00] | nuonguy: | What is it that you need from it? |
| [07:11:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, he has an issue with his LVM attempting to write beyond the end of his array |
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| [07:13:00] | nuonguy: | major downer, that |
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| [07:18:00] | Gumby: | maybe I just need to rebuild my volume |
| [07:19:00] | nuonguy: | Is qmake like make in that you can say make FOO=BAR to change variable FOO in the Makefile? |
| [07:20:00] | Gumby: | ok, since its 11:20pm and I havnt eaten dinner I should go do that while this compiles |
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| [07:23:00] | nuonguy: | Here's what I need to know: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/qmake-manual-7.html#Commands |
| [07:23:00] | nuonguy: | qmake "CONFIG+=test" test.pro |
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| [07:34:00] | topping: | hi all, anyone on an expert at yum that could help me figure out why mine is suddenly saying "no match" for 'yum install mythtv-suite' ? |
| [07:34:00] | topping: | FC4 on x86_64 using jarod's guide |
| [07:35:00] | nuonguy: | topping, why not let yum figure it out: "yum install myth\*" |
| [07:35:00] | nuonguy: | See what pops up |
| [07:36:00] | nuonguy: | also, I do this a lot: yum info available > /tmp/yum.info.available.txt; less /tmp/yum.info.available.txt |
| [07:36:00] | topping: | still nothing,,, "No Match for argument: myth*" |
| [07:37:00] | nuonguy: | Do you have atrpms in your /etc/yum.repos.d? |
| [07:37:00] | topping: | good tip, i'll try that and see if it has what i see online at atrpms |
| [07:37:00] | nuonguy: | hold on |
| [07:37:00] | nuonguy: | brb |
| [07:37:00] | topping: | yes, i have the atrpms.repo |
| [07:37:00] | topping: | it looks clean too :-) |
| [07:38:00] | nuonguy: | Well, atrpms seems to be down, that maybe it too |
| [07:38:00] | nuonguy: | I was just trying to install libraw1394-devel |
| [07:39:00] | topping: | interesting, it was up a second ago |
| [07:39:00] | nuonguy: | http://dl.atrpms.net/fc4-i386/atrpms/stable/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 07:30:58 GMT |
| [07:39:00] | topping: | ohhh |
| [07:40:00] | topping: | that's what's up |
| [07:40:00] | nuonguy: | Don't you see that on your console? |
| [07:40:00] | topping: | the server is up, but the repo metadata isn't |
| [07:40:00] | topping: | yes |
| [07:40:00] | topping: | thanks for the tip |
| [07:42:00] | topping: | i guess i will sleep and give it another shot tomorrow then |
| [07:43:00] | topping: | oh, your question: no i don't see that on console. |
| [07:43:00] | nuonguy: | Why not? |
| [07:44:00] | topping: | http://pastebin.com/450685 |
| [07:44:00] | topping: | dunno why |
| [07:44:00] | topping: | it's just acting like everything is okay |
| [07:44:00] | topping: | strange, eh? |
| [07:44:00] | nuonguy: | type this: rpm -qi yum |
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| [07:45:00] | topping: | 2.4.0 |
| [07:45:00] | nuonguy: | me too |
| [07:45:00] | nuonguy: | Why is yours emitting different info? |
| [07:46:00] | nuonguy: | why oh, why? |
| [07:46:00] | topping: | :-) |
| [07:46:00] | topping: | not sure, i tried 'yum clean all' in there occasionally |
| [07:46:00] | topping: | no changes |
| [07:46:00] | nuonguy: | Wanna try yum -e 1 -c 1 install myth\* |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | I'm sorry, no |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | yum -e 1 -d 1 install myth\* |
| [07:47:00] | topping: | i tried the wildcard yum, but no repo |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | -e for error message and -d for debug messages |
| [07:47:00] | topping: | all i get is one line "No Match for argument: myth*" |
| [07:47:00] | topping: | not even the normal repo drivel |
| [07:48:00] | nuonguy: | show me you /etc/yum.conf |
| [07:48:00] | topping: | http://pastebin.com/450688 |
| [07:49:00] | topping: | maybe i need different debuglevel? |
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| [07:50:00] | nuonguy: | Except for #gpgcheck=1, ours are identical |
| [07:50:00] | nuonguy: | Mystery to me |
| [07:50:00] | nuonguy: | Mine's at two |
| [07:50:00] | topping: | wacky |
| [07:50:00] | nuonguy: | wtf? |
| [07:51:00] | topping: | yum needs an enema |
| [07:51:00] | topping: | nurse! |
| [07:52:00] | nuonguy: | This is gonna bug me |
| [07:55:00] | topping: | even same thing when i delete /var/cache/yum |
| [07:55:00] | topping: | no errors... |
| [07:55:00] | nuonguy: | colour me dumbfounded |
| [07:55:00] | topping: | me too! |
| [07:55:00] | topping: | well, maybe mercury is still in retrograde |
| [07:57:00] | topping: | ok, i'm going to kick it. i'll try to find you and let you know what comes up |
| [07:58:00] | nuonguy: | mercury? |
| [07:58:00] | Juski: | I find it helps if I ritually sacrifice a Dodo before installing anything, but then again I use Gentoo & ubuntu |
| [07:58:00] | nuonguy: | Lot's of sacrificed needed to make it work, Juski? :-() |
| [07:59:00] | Juski: | no, just a fair bit of learning curve climbing and patience |
| [07:59:00] | nuonguy: | yeah, I know |
| [07:59:00] | nuonguy: | Just that everyone I know loves to laugh at gentoo users |
| [08:00:00] | nuonguy: | Cuz, you know, it's *fun* to spend a few days to compile your window manager... |
| [08:00:00] | Juski: | my excuse is that I was a total noob and I had Gentoo help on tap |
| [08:00:00] | nuonguy: | Good reason |
| [08:01:00] | Juski: | I've got a system I'm doing development work on – I cleaned the HDD on thursday last week & it wasn't long before I had mythtv working (less than a whole night.. a lot less) |
| [08:01:00] | Juski: | that was with Ubuntu |
| [08:02:00] | nuonguy: | That's cool |
| [08:02:00] | nuonguy: | Taking me much longer |
| [08:02:00] | nuonguy: | Mind you, I've been having hw issues |
| [08:02:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, a few days? takes me maybe a hour to compile xfce4 :) |
| [08:02:00] | nuonguy: | And, I'm using two tuners... |
| [08:03:00] | nuonguy: | I'm not compiling anything though |
| [08:03:00] | nuonguy: | Took me a while to realise that the nvidia driver was killing my machine |
| [08:03:00] | kormoc: | yeah, that was at your jab about how gentoo takes days to compile the WM :P |
| [08:03:00] | kormoc: | did you try the one direct from nvidia? |
| [08:03:00] | nuonguy: | No |
| [08:03:00] | nuonguy: | Just downloaded it |
| [08:03:00] | nuonguy: | I'm trying to build myth |
| [08:03:00] | nuonguy: | You know, just for the fun of it |
| [08:04:00] | nuonguy: | I run FC4, so, you know, I don't get to build stuff often enough |
| [08:04:00] | nuonguy: | Are you up on how to build myth? |
| [08:04:00] | kormoc: | a little, what's up? |
| [08:04:00] | nuonguy: | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -liec61883 |
| [08:05:00] | nuonguy: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 54708 Jun 14 18:00 /usr/lib/libiec61883.so.0.0.0 |
| [08:06:00] | nuonguy: | More complete output at http://pastebin.com/450696 |
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| [08:08:00] | nuonguy: | Any idea what's going on? |
| [08:08:00] | kormoc: | you might want to disable jack, because I beleive that's part of the jack driver |
| [08:08:00] | nuonguy: | ok |
| [08:09:00] | nuonguy: | what is jack, anyway? |
| [08:10:00] | kormoc: | it's a program designed to do a lot of sound processing |
| [08:10:00] | kormoc: | it's overkill for most people tho |
| [08:11:00] | topping: | nuonguy: i'll let ya know what i find... gonna hit it for now, thanks for the thoughts |
| [08:11:00] | nuonguy: | you have to do a 'make distclean' ./configure qmake ... again, right? |
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| [08:11:00] | nuonguy: | good luck |
| [08:11:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [08:12:00] | kormoc: | the ./configure should get the flag to disable jack |
| [08:12:00] | kormoc: | ./configure --help should list all the options |
| [08:12:00] | nuonguy: | yeah |
| [08:12:00] | nuonguy: | this athlon64 isn't fast enough to compile this |
| [08:12:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [08:12:00] | kormoc: | the a64 is a compile beast :) |
| [08:12:00] | nuonguy: | ah, no wonder |
| [08:12:00] | nuonguy: | mythbackend is busy with something |
| [08:13:00] | kormoc: | tho make distclean wipes the cache, you don't actually have to do that |
| [08:13:00] | kormoc: | if you don't, it will only recompile things that are changed |
| [08:13:00] | kormoc: | (in thoery) |
| [08:13:00] | nuonguy: | I got mythcommflag, mythbackend and cc1 at the top of my list now |
| [08:14:00] | nuonguy: | load is over 7 |
| [08:14:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [08:14:00] | kormoc: | mythcommflag chews stuff up |
| [08:14:00] | kormoc: | mythbackend shouldn't be putting that much of a load on the box tho |
| [08:14:00] | nuonguy: | mythtv has to be built and installed before I can build mythplugins, right? |
| [08:15:00] | ** kormoc shugs ** | |
| [08:15:00] | kormoc: | I would think so, but it all depends on how it's packaged |
| [08:15:00] | nuonguy: | It's not packaged |
| [08:15:00] | nuonguy: | I'm building 0-18-fixes |
| [08:15:00] | kormoc: | the source is still packaged |
| [08:15:00] | nuonguy: | ? |
| [08:15:00] | nuonguy: | I just pulled it out of svn a few minutes ago |
| [08:16:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [08:16:00] | nuonguy: | BTW, svn rawks! |
| [08:16:00] | kormoc: | let me put it better, it depends on how all the source is layed out |
| [08:16:00] | nuonguy: | yeah |
| [08:16:00] | nuonguy: | Are you a myth developer? |
| [08:17:00] | kormoc: | I do a little work with mythweb, but other then that, nope, just a happy user |
| [08:17:00] | kormoc: | tho, I do work for xris, who is the guy who does mythweb and nuvexport |
| [08:17:00] | nuonguy: | The main reason I'm doing this is cuz I wanna use mythfm and noone's packaged that as an rpm |
| [08:17:00] | nuonguy: | work, as in day job? |
| [08:17:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [08:17:00] | kormoc: | mythfm? which one? and does it work? |
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| [08:18:00] | nuonguy: | http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythFM.html |
| [08:18:00] | nuonguy: | Haven't tried it |
| [08:18:00] | nuonguy: | What's your day job? |
| [08:18:00] | kormoc: | php developer for siliconmechanics.com |
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| [08:18:00] | nuonguy: | cool |
| [08:19:00] | Gumby: | excellent. new kernel is up and running |
| [08:19:00] | nuonguy: | How you gonna find out whether your lvm issue is resolved? |
| [08:20:00] | Gumby: | dunno yet :) |
| [08:20:00] | Gumby: | I am first going to test the drives to see if get filesystem errors on any |
| [08:20:00] | nuonguy: | filesystem errors on your lvm? |
| [08:20:00] | nuonguy: | Are you serious? |
| [08:20:00] | Gumby: | if after a couple weeks I see no errors on each drive I will rebuild the lvm |
| [08:21:00] | nuonguy: | Oh man! |
| [08:21:00] | Gumby: | s/lvm/volume |
| [08:21:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, I would do a forced fsck overnight if I was you, btw. |
| [08:21:00] | nuonguy: | I just build a big LVM setup a few weeks ago |
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| [08:21:00] | nuonguy: | So, I ran for a coupla days, going smoothly |
| [08:21:00] | Gumby: | kormoc: Ive already totalled the volume |
| [08:21:00] | nuonguy: | Then, bam! Major filesystem corruption on my LVM pool |
| [08:21:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, it's a known issue with large filesystems on LVM. |
| [08:21:00] | nuonguy: | I thought it was flakey drives |
| [08:21:00] | nuonguy: | DamN!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [08:21:00] | nuonguy: | Wish I'd known that! |
| [08:22:00] | kormoc: | but it should be fixed in the newer kernels |
| [08:22:00] | nuonguy: | I've been spending days (literally days at a stretch) running badblocks |
| [08:22:00] | nuonguy: | ANd it found nothing! |
| [08:22:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, ext3? |
| [08:22:00] | nuonguy: | On any of the drives! |
| [08:22:00] | nuonguy: | yeah |
| [08:22:00] | Gumby: | Ive run fsck already multiple times. each time it works for a few days and then start giving the errors I posted earlier. then I run fsck again and it fixes it all then works again for another few days etc. |
| [08:22:00] | ** kormoc nod ** | |
| [08:22:00] | kormoc: | s |
| [08:22:00] | Gumby: | on and on |
| [08:22:00] | nuonguy: | shit! |
| [08:22:00] | nuonguy: | Wish I'd known about this! |
| [08:22:00] | nuonguy: | What distro do you use? |
| [08:23:00] | nuonguy: | I feel like such a moron now |
| [08:23:00] | Gumby: | lol |
| [08:23:00] | kormoc: | basically, what happens is the filesystem gets reported that a block exists outside of the array and trys to write to it and it fails, leaving the drive to seem damnaged, and lvm trys to recover it and it all goes to hell |
| [08:23:00] | nuonguy: | Where's the avatar with a big L on the forehead? |
| [08:23:00] | kormoc: | it's not a certain distro, it was a linux kernel issue :P |
| [08:23:00] | nuonguy: | great |
| [08:23:00] | Gumby: | I was using another volume before with reiserfs and the same drives. I never got these errors. But then the volume got corrupted during a power outtage |
| [08:23:00] | kormoc: | but only with ext3 and lvm. |
| [08:23:00] | nuonguy: | Well |
| [08:23:00] | Gumby: | so maybe it is ext3 that is the problem |
| [08:24:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, yeah, it is the combination of ext3 and lvm. |
| [08:24:00] | nuonguy: | So do I have to wait for the 2.6.15 release before this gets fixed? |
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| [08:24:00] | ** nuonguy <= LOOOOOOSER!! ** | |
| [08:24:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, it should be fixed as of... 2.6.8 I beleive |
| [08:24:00] | nuonguy: | What? |
| [08:24:00] | nuonguy: | Then why all the patching, Gumby? |
| [08:24:00] | ** kormoc is too lazy to go look it up. ** | |
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| [08:25:00] | nuonguy: | I've been running 2.6.14 for a long time |
| [08:25:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, he was using a non vanilla kernel, one of the extra patches they applied could have fuxored it up |
| [08:25:00] | nuonguy: | I'd assumed I was having flakey drive issues |
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| [08:25:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, how large of an array? |
| [08:25:00] | Gumby: | nuonguy: I just chose a vanilla 2.6.14.3 kernel. no patches |
| [08:25:00] | nuonguy: | over 1TB |
| [08:25:00] | kormoc: | ahh, yeah... |
| [08:25:00] | nuonguy: | I took the drives out of a dumpster at work |
| [08:25:00] | nuonguy: | Took my chances |
| [08:26:00] | kormoc: | I have 320 gb lvm's that are perfectly fine, but someone reported that on a single 500 gb drive on lvm it was having issues |
| [08:26:00] | nuonguy: | Figured I'd paid for that 'perk' by having this drive issue |
| [08:26:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [08:26:00] | Gumby: | 1TB of storage from a dumpster? |
| [08:26:00] | nuonguy: | Yeah |
| [08:26:00] | Gumby: | where the heck do you go dumpster diving? |
| [08:26:00] | nuonguy: | I work at a place where that's not that unual |
| [08:26:00] | nuonguy: | I don't wanna say |
| [08:26:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, ibm |
| [08:26:00] | kormoc: | it's full of deskstars! |
| [08:26:00] | nuonguy: | It's not that unusual |
| [08:27:00] | Gumby: | scary! |
| [08:27:00] | nuonguy: | but badblocks -w never found any bad blocks! |
| [08:27:00] | Gumby: | he got deathstar! he got deathstar! |
| [08:28:00] | kormoc: | anyway, to bed I go, gotta get up early in the mornin' |
| [08:28:00] | nuonguy: | Thanks for the help, kormoc |
| [08:28:00] | Gumby: | awwwwww, and I was just gonna start compiling ivtv |
| [08:28:00] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [08:28:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [08:28:00] | nuonguy: | So, gumby, what distro do you use? |
| [08:28:00] | kormoc: | I'll be back online by 10 am pst. |
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| [08:29:00] | Gumby: | nuonguy: debian |
| [08:29:00] | nuonguy: | k |
| [08:32:00] | nuonguy: | myth still doesn't build |
| [08:32:00] | nuonguy: | and I gotta get some sleep |
| [08:33:00] | nuonguy: | Gumby, are you going to run tune2fs and badblocks and stuff to see if your physical drives are ok? |
| [08:33:00] | Gumby: | nuonguy: I sure am |
| [08:33:00] | nuonguy: | Nothing ever turned up for me |
| [08:35:00] | nuonguy: | I did tune2fs -C0 -c 1 so that fsck runs each time I reboot |
| [08:35:00] | nuonguy: | Nothing yet |
| [08:35:00] | nuonguy: | But, it's only been two days since it's been back up |
| [08:35:00] | nuonguy: | and I'm barely putting any stuff on it yet |
| [08:36:00] | nuonguy: | You're making me nervous |
| [08:38:00] | ** Gumby forgets how to create debian packages for modules from source ** | |
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| [08:45:00] | quacker: | -dead boo! |
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| [08:51:00] | samborambo: | hi all :) |
| [08:51:00] | samborambo: | having a prob with mtd |
| [08:51:00] | samborambo: | my knoppmyth box has been working fine for about 6 months now but suddenly mtd is giving seg faults on startup |
| [08:52:00] | samborambo: | first course of action anyone? |
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| [09:03:00] | Xenna: | Restore a backup of the mysql db |
| [09:03:00] | Xenna: | Or start a new one? |
| [09:04:00] | Xenna: | Perhaps something gotr corrupted |
| [09:04:00] | samborambo: | does mtd interact with mysql? |
| [09:05:00] | Xenna: | dunno really |
| [09:05:00] | Xenna: | but the most logical cause of something failing would be that your config got messed up |
| [09:05:00] | Xenna: | and the easiest to test |
| [09:05:00] | samborambo: | Xenna could you do a 'md5sum /usr/bin/mtd' and paste the result please? |
| [09:06:00] | Xenna: | You're pretty much guaranbteed to have a different binary but here goes: 2014cd45126e9f8bc7482a8a33ce4b35 |
| [09:07:00] | samborambo: | of course.....you've probably compiled from source |
| [09:07:00] | ** samborambo <-- dumbass ** | |
| [09:08:00] | Xenna: | Nope, it's a standard yum/rpm install from here: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ |
| [09:08:00] | samborambo: | mine Knoppmyth |
| [09:08:00] | Xenna: | But if your version is 6 months old you'll probably have a different one anyway |
| [09:09:00] | samborambo: | the deb packages are current |
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| [09:14:00] | samborambo: | I've got some double ups on mtd options in mythconverg/settings from when i had a different hostname |
| [09:15:00] | Gumby: | wow. that didnt work so well |
| [09:15:00] | Gumby: | ivtv modules is all screwe up |
| [09:23:00] | Juski: | damn. just been a tad over-zealous in my moderating... oops |
| [09:23:00] | Gumby: | hrm. looks like the bttv modules gets messed up after I compiled ivtv |
| [09:29:00] | Gumby: | bttv: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
| [09:29:00] | Gumby: | bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
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| [09:33:00] | Gumby: | has anyone ever seen this when loading the bttv modules... "bttv: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog, bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog" |
| [09:34:00] | Gumby: | just compiled ivtv0.4.0 and using kernel 2.6.14.3 |
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| [09:44:00] | samborambo: | hey I'm probably not the first to ask but has there been any development with integrating skype API into mythphone? |
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| [10:22:00] | Tanthrix: | Anyone have problems with audio going out after reboots? |
| [10:23:00] | Tanthrix: | I'm using a PVR-150 card (I know, I know, bad drivers and all that) |
| [10:23:00] | Tanthrix: | This is the second time it has happened now. Ended up recording 5 shows with no volume. |
| [10:23:00] | Tanthrix: | And I'm certain it's not a sound card / pcm accidentally muted / etc.. issue, and stupidly enough, I don't recall how I fixed it a month ago when it happened :/ |
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| [10:24:00] | Dextris: | i have a problem between selectin either Hauppage WinTV-HVR 1300 (133e) or Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-T DVB-T (78e). Latest one is said to be terrestial-version, but does it still work with normal cable-plugin? or does it mean that terrestial is just add-on? |
| [10:25:00] | Dextris: | and why is terrestial-version cheaper than cable-version? |
| [10:27:00] | Juski: | Dextris: the HVR1300 isn't yet supported in Linux, so that kind of rules that one out for you |
| [10:28:00] | Juski: | it's being worked on as we speak though ;) |
| [10:28:00] | Dextris: | darn.. |
| [10:28:00] | Tanthrix: | Is the PVR-150MCE supported by the stable drivers yet |
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| [10:28:00] | Dextris: | is any digital-HW-encoding card supported by linux yet? |
| [10:29:00] | Juski: | I was under the impression it's now stable enough for lots of people to use |
| [10:29:00] | Dextris: | and by the way, what is MCE? |
| [10:29:00] | Tanthrix: | Well, I'm using it right now, and it's stable beyond this occasional audio cut out problem that I'm having. |
| [10:29:00] | Juski: | and the more people who use it, the more chance they have of nailing all the problems |
| [10:30:00] | Tanthrix: | And the one time it plain quit working on me with no changes of any kind. |
| [10:30:00] | Juski: | MCE.. how've you not heard of that PoS? |
| [10:30:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [10:30:00] | Tanthrix: | Just a regular PVR150 without the remote and what not. |
| [10:30:00] | Dextris: | ouh :) |
| [10:31:00] | Juski: | non MCE version comes with remote & IR blaster IIRC.. MCE version comes with no remote and FM tuner |
| [10:31:00] | Dextris: | why does our local netshop at here in finland is trying to sell PVR-150MCE under digital-tv-car section? :D |
| [10:31:00] | Tanthrix: | My god, it's actually true! Turning the computer off and/or unplugging it for 30 seconds actually does fix problems! |
| [10:31:00] | Juski: | ask them, Dextris |
| [10:31:00] | Tanthrix: | I just rebooted normally with no fix, but then tried the turn off / unplug and it works fine now. |
| [10:32:00] | Dextris: | Juski: so, none digital-tv-card isnt supported by linux? |
| [10:32:00] | Juski: | maybe the card just needed a proper full-on hard reset that the PCI reset doesn't give |
| [10:33:00] | Juski: | Dextris: if you want DVB-T there are lots to choose from |
| [10:33:00] | Dextris: | well, i dont want to use just antenna, i prefer cable as i have it |
| [10:33:00] | Juski: | there are some PVR250 clones still available, but 150 drivers are getting better all the time |
| [10:33:00] | Tanthrix: | Well, I figure that's the case, but I'm always skeptical of solutions like that. |
| [10:33:00] | Tanthrix: | But now that I think about it, it was sphery that told me about it methinks, and he knows what he's talking about. |
| [10:34:00] | Tanthrix: | Just too many gulliable people out there that buy into the correlation = causation argument. |
| [10:34:00] | Tanthrix: | And it's for that reason we have homeopathic medicine ;) |
| [10:34:00] | Juski: | Tanthrix: there's been talk of some registers on the card getting wrong values in them – which only a powerdown can fix (seemingly) |
| [10:35:00] | Juski: | Hauppauge are working with the V4L developers for the HVR card drivers (!) |
| [10:35:00] | Tanthrix: | Interesting. |
| [10:35:00] | Juski: | and that includes the HVR1300 (DVB-T and analog hardware MPEG2 encoding) |
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| [10:36:00] | Juski: | what they're pushing for is a common API for v4l and ivtv, but that aint gonna happen overnight |
| [10:37:00] | Tanthrix: | I was thinking that I might upgrade the ivtv drivers I'm using, but it seems like that might fix my troubles. |
| [10:37:00] | Tanthrix: | Er, not fix. |
| [10:37:00] | Juski: | it might be better than having to reboot |
| [10:37:00] | Juski: | rebooting is a Windows PoS way to fix things |
| [10:38:00] | Tanthrix: | I'm just wondering if the latest drivers actually will be any better, and worth the trouble of installing. |
| [10:38:00] | samborambo: | ok, new problem with MythDVD transcode.......can only transcode one title at a time |
| [10:38:00] | Tanthrix: | As far as I can tell the problem only manifests itself after a reboot, so I just need to remember to do a full shutdown whenever I need to restart my system. |
| [10:38:00] | Juski: | Tanthrix: in the case of the PVR150 they probably will be |
| [10:39:00] | Tanthrix: | Hrm. Maybe I'll do t when I get the time. |
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| [10:39:00] | samborambo: | could someone help please? |
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| [10:40:00] | Juski: | samborambo: it won't make any difference |
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| [10:40:00] | samborambo: | how do you mean? |
| [10:40:00] | Juski: | transcoding one file at a time or lots at once – the net result will be the same.. it'll still take the same overall amount of time |
| [10:41:00] | samborambo: | nono......I stacked up a whole lot of titles to import overnight |
| [10:41:00] | Tanthrix: | Possibly longer. |
| [10:41:00] | samborambo: | did the first one and failed on the rest |
| [10:41:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [10:41:00] | samborambo: | rips them fine |
| [10:43:00] | Juski: | no idea.. I do all my DVD backing up on my PoS system |
| [10:43:00] | samborambo: | any ideas? |
| [10:43:00] | samborambo: | ah |
| [10:43:00] | Juski: | do you get any errors in logs? |
| [10:43:00] | Gumby: | has anyone ever seen this when loading the bttv modules after compiling ivtv0.4 and using kernel2.6.14.3... "bttv: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog, bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog" |
| [10:43:00] | samborambo: | yeah, but not that helpful..... |
| [10:43:00] | samborambo: | 23:16:16: job thread finished ripping dvd title |
| [10:43:00] | samborambo: | 23:31:33: job finished succesfully: job dvd 3 1 11 0 -1 /myth/video/SCRUBS – Title 3 |
| [10:43:00] | samborambo: | 23:31:34: Error: Could not start transcode |
| [10:43:00] | samborambo: | 23:31:37: job failed: job dvd 4 1 11 0 -1 /myth/video/SCRUBS_S2D3_PAL – Title 4 |
| [10:43:00] | Juski: | Gumby: I've seen people complain about that in here a few times. Don't know what the fix is |
| [10:44:00] | Juski: | Gumby: you tried in #ivtv? |
| [10:46:00] | Gumby: | no I havnt. I just noticed that if I unload ivtv and tveeprom and then modprobe bttv I have no problems |
| [10:47:00] | Juski: | it's ivtv's way of telling you to bin the bttv card & get another PVR card ;) |
| [10:47:00] | Gumby: | lol |
| [10:48:00] | Gumby: | and my bank account can turn around and tell ivtv to shove it up its own ass cause there is no way in hell the cash is coming out for a 4th tuner card |
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| [10:49:00] | Dextris: | what would you people recommend to buy if i'd like to set up PVR that would work stable? I'd like to toss myself intoa digital era because analog transmissions will end at at the end of year 2007.. so any idea to buy digital-tuner yet if they wont even work on linux? |
| [10:49:00] | samborambo: | four cards? you watch that much tv? get outside and go for a run :P |
| [10:49:00] | Juski: | I'm running 3 DVB-T tuners in my mythbackend |
| [10:50:00] | Juski: | stable as a very big, very heavy rock |
| [10:50:00] | Dextris: | should i just get pvr-150 insted of digital-tuner? |
| [10:50:00] | Juski: | in 12 months I've only ever needed to power it down or reboot for system maintenance (cleaning fans, changing CPU HSF), and vacuuming behind it |
| [10:51:00] | Tanthrix: | A pvr-150 is pretty cheap and works pretty damn well once you figure it out. |
| [10:51:00] | Juski: | Dextris: you said it yourself. Analogue transmissions are going down in 2007 |
| [10:51:00] | Tanthrix: | I've satisfied with mine. |
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| [10:52:00] | Juski: | with DVB, there's no digitizing of video and audio to be done.. you just take the mpeg stream from the datastream they transmit and whack it down onto your HDD |
| [10:52:00] | Gumby: | looks like the kernels tveeprom works with bttv no problem. Its just ivtv's tveeprom that is causing the issues |
| [10:52:00] | Dextris: | Juski: yes, and i'd be happier with better quality of digital-tv. |
| [10:52:00] | Juski: | I would never say it's better quality |
| [10:52:00] | Dextris: | Juski: why? |
| [10:52:00] | Juski: | it certainly isn't here in the UK |
| [10:52:00] | Dextris: | :D |
| [10:52:00] | Tanthrix: | Thanks for the help. I'm off |
| [10:53:00] | Dextris: | btw.. what means DVB-T ? |
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| [10:53:00] | Juski: | Dextris: they've crammed like 30 channels in |
| [10:53:00] | Juski: | Digital Video Broadcasting – Terrestrial |
| [10:53:00] | Juski: | looks great on most things on most channels, most of the time |
| [10:54:00] | Juski: | but every now & then... say on a music show with lots of moving lights ... it looks like frickin Lego |
| [10:54:00] | Dextris: | and DVB-C = CABLE ? |
| [10:54:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [10:55:00] | Juski: | there've been a few users of Finnish DVB-C in here |
| [10:55:00] | Dextris: | and if i'd like to get PVR working i should just satisfy with DVB-T? |
| [10:55:00] | Juski: | you could do |
| [10:55:00] | Juski: | DVB-C will be a little bit more effort, but that'll work aswell probably |
| [10:56:00] | Dextris: | and what does 'little bit more effort' mean? like coding a few hundreds of code or just doin some extra configuration? |
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| [10:57:00] | Juski: | you'll need to do a bit of research to find out how to tune into your local cable provider |
| [10:58:00] | Dextris: | ok, but they work stable on linux at the time? |
| [10:58:00] | Juski: | yes |
| [10:58:00] | Dextris: | cool :) |
| [10:58:00] | Juski: | the DVB drivers are very mature now |
| [10:58:00] | Juski: | helps when Conexant make datasheets available for the chips ;) |
| [11:02:00] | Dextris: | does DVB cards really require 1.5Ghz CPU for MPEG2-decoding and 2.8Ghz for analog as it is said on hauppages homepage? and why does analog cards work with just 733Mhz CPU? |
| [11:02:00] | Juski: | Dextris: I was running my frontend on an Athlon 800 for a few months |
| [11:03:00] | Dextris: | well, i'm going to have Duron 600 at first |
| [11:03:00] | Juski: | it worked really well, but it wasn't fast on channel changing |
| [11:03:00] | Juski: | you'll need a nvidia card and use xvmc then |
| [11:03:00] | Dextris: | i only have matrox-cards :/ |
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| [11:03:00] | jono: | heya |
| [11:03:00] | Juski: | hi jono |
| [11:03:00] | jono: | heya Juski :) |
| [11:04:00] | Juski: | btw did anyone catch the tsunami documentary last night? |
| [11:04:00] | jono: | Juski, any idea how I can reduce flicker in tv? |
| [11:04:00] | Juski: | bloody hell! actual camcorder footage of it all going off... scary |
| [11:04:00] | Juski: | jono: what kinda graphics card you got? |
| [11:05:00] | jono: | Juski, ATI Radeon X800 |
| [11:05:00] | Juski: | are we talking about interlace flicker now.. like there's a horizontal line & it seems to be wobbling? |
| [11:05:00] | jono: | it just looks like a wave of flicker runs across the screen |
| [11:05:00] | Juski: | hmmm... |
| [11:05:00] | jono: | I tried all of the de-interlace options and none worked |
| [11:05:00] | Juski: | a wave? |
| [11:06:00] | jono: | yeah, the flicker move from one side of the screen to the other |
| [11:06:00] | jono: | I notice it particularly on solid blocks of colour in shows, such as a background |
| [11:06:00] | Juski: | probably PSU noise |
| [11:06:00] | ivor: | how's your tv connected? |
| [11:06:00] | jono: | ivor, s-video |
| [11:07:00] | Juski: | it's not flicker, or due to interlacing |
| [11:07:00] | Juski: | could be a shitty video buffer on the ATI card too |
| [11:07:00] | jono: | so what is interlacing? |
| [11:07:00] | Juski: | gfx card manufactrers only ever use cheap crap |
| [11:07:00] | ivor: | is it a "grainy" flicker? how close together is the "flicker". |
| [11:08:00] | jono: | ivor, it does sem a bit grainy |
| [11:08:00] | ivor: | is is straight vertical bands or diagonal. |
| [11:08:00] | ivor: | (wondering if it's just composite dot-drawl) |
| [11:08:00] | jono: | I think it is diagonal, but I am not in front of the machine now |
| [11:08:00] | jono: | ivor, what's that? |
| [11:08:00] | ivor: | do you just see it on solid graphics or on normal video. |
| [11:08:00] | Juski: | interlacing is the act of effectively doubling the resolution without actually increasing it.. by showing alternate fields of 'interlaced' picture |
| [11:09:00] | Juski: | I thought dot crawl was only obvious on the edges of things |
| [11:09:00] | ivor: | Juski: you can see it as rippling grain on solid blocks of colour too. |
| [11:09:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [11:09:00] | jono: | ivor, it see it in the tv video – I don't think there is flicker in the myth menus |
| [11:09:00] | Juski: | I've got a tiny bit of that on my tv out aswell |
| [11:10:00] | Juski: | but my dvd player did it, so I just assumed it was the telly's fault |
| [11:10:00] | Juski: | (hence my plan to try VGA-RGB soon) |
| [11:10:00] | jono: | any suggestions as to howI prevent this? |
| [11:10:00] | ivor: | jono: its either electrical interference from something in your machine... or its a poor quality s-video out. |
| [11:11:00] | Juski: | might be a grounding issue |
| [11:11:00] | ivor: | jono: what sort of video card is it? |
| [11:11:00] | jono: | ivor, ATI Radeon X800 |
| [11:11:00] | jono: | its weird cause the other day I didnt have this flicker, it really came on last nigth |
| [11:12:00] | jono: | ivor, if I remember right, I also get the flicker on my monitor, so its probably not the s-video |
| [11:12:00] | jono: | what kind of things cause interference? I doubt its my PSU as I bought an expensive quiet PSU that should not cause interference |
| [11:13:00] | ivor: | strange that you'd get the same flicker on a monitor since they're different frequencies. |
| [11:13:00] | Juski: | jono: do you have speed controlled fans? |
| [11:13:00] | jono: | Juski, not usre |
| [11:13:00] | ivor: | have you changed anything? like running the machine without the case on or anything like that? |
| [11:14:00] | Juski: | they can be a culprit |
| [11:14:00] | Juski: | PCs can have the sides on?! |
| [11:14:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [11:14:00] | jono: | ivor, nope, it was running as normal |
| [11:15:00] | jono: | Juski, how do I tell if I have speed controlled fans? |
| [11:15:00] | Juski: | what kind of case is it? |
| [11:15:00] | jono: | Silverstone LC-14M |
| [11:15:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [11:15:00] | Juski: | it might still be the fans causing the interference |
| [11:15:00] | Juski: | what motherboard? some motherboards have smart fan control |
| [11:16:00] | jono: | actually that may make sense, the machine was on a long time last night and it flickered after a few hours of use |
| [11:16:00] | Juski: | there ya go |
| [11:16:00] | ivor: | aha. |
| [11:16:00] | jono: | don't know off hnad (I am work), I can check tonight though |
| [11:16:00] | Juski: | probably easily fixed, too |
| [11:16:00] | jono: | I can check tonight if it flickers when I first turn it on, if it doesnt, then I know its the fans |
| [11:17:00] | Juski: | my spare machine wipes out medium wave radio.. just not got round to buying a new PSU for it yet |
| [11:17:00] | jono: | Juski, really? how is it fixed? |
| [11:17:00] | ivor: | find the fan and put a different one in. |
| [11:17:00] | Juski: | jono: some capacitors and/or a big lump of ferrite |
| [11:17:00] | ivor: | or get one with a supressor in the cable |
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| [11:20:00] | Juski: | right.. time to eat something before I croak |
| [11:20:00] | poop: | jon: What PSU are you using in your silverstone? |
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| [11:29:00] | Juski: | how some hardware ever managed to get CE marked I'll never know |
| [11:29:00] | poop: | Is CE usable? |
| [11:29:00] | poop: | Isn't it MCE? |
| [11:30:00] | jono: | poop, its a nexus nx-5000 |
| [11:30:00] | Juski: | no I mean the CE mark of conformity |
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| [11:30:00] | Juski: | safety, RFI emissions etc |
| [11:31:00] | poop: | jono: I forgot to get a PSU for my LC10M, so I'm probably going to pick up an Enermax today locally (too bad it's blue). |
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| [11:31:00] | poop: | There are some nice-looking black ones, but the Enermax seems to be the best buy. |
| [11:32:00] | Juski: | get one with wanker lights in it – they're usually a tad cheaper (then rip the lights out) |
| [11:33:00] | poop: | rice bad |
| [11:34:00] | Juski: | I did that with the new HSFs I bought |
| [11:34:00] | Juski: | the ones with disgusting lights were cheaper |
| [11:34:00] | poop: | Don't they make your rig faster? |
| [11:35:00] | poop: | Wow, I completely wanted to throttle myself just now. |
| [11:35:00] | Juski: | I disconnected the LEDs & binned them though |
| [11:36:00] | Juski: | god I don't want an errie blue glow coming from any hardware |
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| [11:36:00] | poop: | My Aria has blue LEDs. I don't miss it. |
| [11:37:00] | poop: | had |
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| [11:37:00] | Juski: | I only left the power LED on my frontend so I can tell it's swiched on |
| [11:38:00] | Juski: | stuck for what to buy the mrs for xmas? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/05/ebay_ . . . opportunity/ |
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| [12:01:00] | dday: | can I use SVN plugins into 0.18.1 mythtv? |
| [12:01:00] | dday: | SVN Mythtv plugins |
| [12:02:00] | dday: | is SVN mythtv stable enough to use? |
| [12:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | dday: You can't mix them |
| [12:03:00] | Juski: | dday: no to using SVN plugins with 0.18 mythtv |
| [12:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I'm very happy using svn |
| [12:04:00] | dday: | I want to use xmame > 0.99 into mythtvgame but 0.18.1 dont like it, did I have to use SVN version then? |
| [12:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | dday: Either use SVN, or write a shellscript wrapper around xmame and have it use the correct commandoptions you want |
| [12:10:00] | dday: | thx I have to think about it, Im not much into SVN, I just want it to work not much time for fixes I think |
| [12:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | svn works perfectly for me, but ymmv |
| [12:12:00] | Juski: | I'm gonna have to get around to grabbing every single plugin there is going to so I can theme them |
| [12:14:00] | Juski: | btw: wide theme progress is up at www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide |
| [12:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cool. if only I had a wide screen tv heh |
| [12:20:00] | Juski: | I've got one, but I can only use 720x576 |
| [12:20:00] | Juski: | never fear, owners of PAL/NTSC 16:9 TVs.. I'm gonna make an amorphic version too :D |
| [12:20:00] | fryfrog: | rar! |
| [12:21:00] | fryfrog: | blue looks silly in WS :) |
| [12:21:00] | Juski: | yeh.. what's with those pancake shaped buttons anyway? ;) |
| [12:22:00] | Juski: | before I started all this, Blue was my favourite theme by far |
| [12:22:00] | fryfrog: | i actually like the simplistic wide one |
| [12:23:00] | fryfrog: | i forget what its called, maybe "simple wide" or somethign? |
| [12:23:00] | Juski: | minimalist-wide |
| [12:23:00] | Juski: | I like the fact it's wide, but don't like the buttons |
| [12:23:00] | Juski: | but... the more choice we have the better, right? |
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| [12:29:00] | fryfrog: | for sure! |
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| [13:14:00] | t00m: | fuq, 2 shows didn't record |
| [13:14:00] | t00m: | i wish i knew why |
| [13:15:00] | t00m: | does it get pissed, if the machine has load? |
| [13:15:00] | t00m: | i guess it shouldn't. it's just dvb recording... |
| [13:16:00] | Juski: | t00m: only time I've ever had shows not record was when the disk was full |
| [13:19:00] | ** FreeBUD has recorded a few times now but can't get sound out of the recordings yet (still googling). I can watch TV with sound fine. However, when I play a .mp3 I ripped from a CD I can here whatever the default TV chan's sound AND the song playing. Any hints/thoughts are appreciated... still reading... there is a lot to read. ** | |
| [13:20:00] | FreeBUD: | and I know how to spell hear (DOH) |
| [13:22:00] | laga: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.ht . . . ooting_Audio <- |
| [13:23:00] | FreeBUD: | oh yeah and when I reboot I have to start alsamixer and hit the m key to turn on the "Line" and turn the sound up... or I get no sound. Maybe this is related? Thanks for the URI laga |
| [13:24:00] | Tristam: | FreeBud, you need to start alsasound at boot to retain your settings. |
| [13:25:00] | FreeBUD: | Tristam could you elaborate a litle for me? I am a FreeBSD user that has not used linux for nearly 5 years (except smoothwall) and never used Debian. Or are you telling me to do this through MythTV itself? |
| [13:26:00] | Tristam: | Nah, it's a linux thing |
| [13:26:00] | Tristam: | Not MythTV |
| [13:26:00] | FreeBUD: | thanks |
| [13:26:00] | FreeBUD: | I will figure it out as I learn Debian then |
| [13:26:00] | FreeBUD: | or just stick it in rc.local |
| [13:26:00] | Tristam: | I'm not sure how the debian initscripts work, but in Gentoo I have to add alsasound to run at boot so the setting are persistent. |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | hiya laga.. had a bad head this morning |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | :/ |
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| [13:27:00] | laga: | Juski: did you drink too much? |
| [13:27:00] | Juski: | yeh. whole bottle of Merlot (oops) |
| [13:27:00] | ** FreeBUD did but has no hangover ** | |
| [13:28:00] | laga: | Juski: hehehe. ;). |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | getting practice in for the holiday season |
| [13:28:00] | laga: | Juski: i'm nothing but tired ;) |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | ah well. at least it's not Monday any more :) |
| [13:29:00] | laga: | hehe, yep. but hangover + tuesday is as bad as a monday ;) |
| [13:29:00] | Juski: | not so bad now.. ready to tackle the town |
| [13:29:00] | Juski: | how are the little pet projects of yours going? |
| [13:30:00] | FreeBUD: | I bookmarked http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.ht . . . ooting_Audio and going to try some stuff thanks everyine for the help. later. |
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| [13:30:00] | laga: | my little pet projects? i don't have any at the moment, busy with school and the girlfriend |
| [13:30:00] | Juski: | ahh that'll be enough to be going on with then ;) |
| [13:31:00] | laga: | Juski: i wish i could finish all the other stuff. but oh well...GF and my parents are gonna be out of town the next 7 days so i'm gonna buy a few cases of beer and tinker with mythtv ;) |
| [13:32:00] | Juski: | yeh I had plans for these days off |
| [13:32:00] | Juski: | made quite a bit of progress with (you know what) though |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | the problem i that i always want to do too much. last holidays, i planned on getting my diskless frontend running and translating the mythtv howto. the frontend is still not working well. |
| [13:33:00] | rjune: | laga: I think the girlfriend counts as a pet project |
| [13:33:00] | Juski: | that's my next thing... make my minimyth boot from a USB key |
| [13:34:00] | Juski: | just as an experiment of course |
| [13:34:00] | laga: | Juski: bug greyfoxx about his mythtv-on-an-usbstick project. i dont know if it will work well with an epia, though. |
| [13:34:00] | laga: | rjune: a lovely one, though ;) |
| [13:34:00] | Juski: | whizzing 64MB from a USB2.0 device shouldn't take long |
| [13:37:00] | Juski: | that sounds like a really cool idea.. knoppmyth (kindof) on a stick :) |
| [13:38:00] | laga: | what? greyfoxx' project? |
| [13:38:00] | Juski: | ok.. maybe knoppmyth isn't a good one to compare it to |
| [13:38:00] | Juski: | myth on a stick ;) |
| [13:39:00] | laga: | hehe, yep. he called it mythslax, iirc |
| [13:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Slaxware on a USBStick or CDrom |
| [13:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | slax is mini distro based on Slackware |
| [13:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I think I'm gonna wait and just release it when 0.19 is out(hopefully end of Dec) |
| [13:39:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [13:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Currently it's 156M or so |
| [13:40:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: spiffy :) |
| [13:40:00] | laga: | i wonder how long i will be able to stay on 0.19 before i will want to upgrade to SVN again *sigh* |
| [13:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | full mythfrontend/backend. Intended as a frontend but nothing stopping it from being a master ort slave backend |
| [13:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [13:40:00] | Juski: | no cramfs though? |
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| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski |
| [13:41:00] | laga: | is cramfs similar to unionfs? e.g. transparent rw-fs in ram? |
| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | : no idea |
| [13:41:00] | ** Juski wonders how quick minimyth would boot from a HDD ** | |
| [13:42:00] | Juski: | saying that, my cable box takes about 90 seconds to come up properly |
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| [13:43:00] | Kelerion: | Juski.. where in england are you? |
| [13:43:00] | Juski: | Manchester |
| [13:43:00] | Kelerion: | ahh.. Leeds here |
| [13:43:00] | otwin: | Juski: did you see this thread: http://linpvr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=379 |
| [13:43:00] | Juski: | yes I did, otwin |
| [13:44:00] | Juski: | I can't honestly see how it could take 15 mins to boot from a USB device |
| [13:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's insane |
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| [13:44:00] | ** GreyFoxx times his bootup ** | |
| [13:44:00] | Juski: | you could always put it on a CD |
| [13:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you talking to me ? |
| [13:45:00] | Juski: | no.. was just a general comment |
| [13:45:00] | otwin: | i don't think pxe-booting is much slower booting than anything else |
| [13:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | really, otwin? |
| [13:46:00] | otwin: | CD's make noise ;-) |
| [13:46:00] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: still booting? blimey. |
| [13:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythslax will be distributed as an ISO that can either be booted off a CD or placed on a usb stick |
| [13:46:00] | rjune: | we get start to login on our terms in about 30s |
| [13:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | there boottime was around 70–80 seconds |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | takes my minimyth about a minute to fully load |
| [13:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | including X+myth launch |
| [13:46:00] | otwin: | the problem is not transfer |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | what is it? uncramming it? |
| [13:46:00] | ivor: | I'm at 45secs at the moment. poweron to menu. :) |
| [13:47:00] | otwin: | it's more initializing, mounting and so on |
| [13:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm also testing this on an old slow box which I think only has USB 1 |
| [13:47:00] | Kelerion: | GreyFoxx: you been working on this a while? |
| [13:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kelerion: the bootable usb key thing? Spent a couple weeks getting it ready a couple months ago. Then didn't touch it til last night when I started updating the modules for released along with myth 0.19 |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | and by a couple weeks I mean an hour here or there spread over a couple weeks |
| [13:49:00] | Kelerion: | sorry.. meant mythslax in general |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I started it in Aug/Sept. Just got life busy after |
| [13:49:00] | Kelerion: | "This site will be filled in hopefully this weekend. – GreyFoxx, Aug 12, 2005".. it happens to us all.. lol |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I plan to release when 0.19 comes out. |
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| [13:49:00] | Tristam: | Damn life! Damn it to hell! |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [13:50:00] | t00m: | Juski: for some reason it didn't have reception. no idea why.. |
| [13:51:00] | Kelerion: | some time next year.. I'm planning on giving the linuxbios project a go.. with either a diskless frontend or a usbkey one.. should be a fun "project" |
| [13:51:00] | laga: | Kelerion: would be cool if you could fit mythfrontend + X into the eeprom ;) |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | yeh like _that's_ gonna be possible |
| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | All of my frontends are diskless. But a friend of mine wanted to go diskless without setting up the dhcp/tftp/etc servers. And I came accross slax and fel it would be perfect |
| [13:52:00] | Kelerion: | lol.. I think that might be impossible.. lol |
| [13:52:00] | laga: | i really need to start working on my debian+mythtv+nfsroot howto. should be fun. |
| [13:52:00] | Juski: | actually – that'd be a really useful thing for making up networked disk storage boxes :) |
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| [13:53:00] | laga: | anyways, afk. gotta do my homework. (dammit) |
| [13:54:00] | Juski: | have fun |
| [13:54:00] | Kelerion: | doesn't this sound cool.. from the linux bios homepage: |
| [13:54:00] | Kelerion: | Note that, on newer systems, there need be no moving parts at all. At LANL, we are building a new 'no moving parts' 16-node cluster to demonstrate this capability. The cluster will fit in a toolbox, run from a battery, boot in 10 seconds, and be controlled from your laptop (which, sadly, will still have a few moving parts). |
| [13:54:00] | Juski: | Kelerion: it's a great idea in theory |
| [13:56:00] | Kelerion: | I keep scouring ebay every couple of months for people setting job-lots of old pc's.. am determined one of these days to build myself a cluster.. just to say I've done it.. lol |
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| [13:59:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. just found what I want for christmas: http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/usb-air-darts-140818.php |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | hehe. yep, those darts are spiffy. they should work well with pets |
| [14:02:00] | Kelerion: | lol |
| [14:03:00] | ** Juski dashes off to Marks & Spencer pronto ** | |
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| [14:14:00] | ** eidolon yawns. ** | |
| [14:14:00] | eidolon: | mornin |
| [14:14:00] | eidolon: | so is anyone using hte mythtv 'phone' interface? i'm looking for some information on it. |
| [14:22:00] | laga: | you'd better ask a more specific question. |
| [14:22:00] | laga: | anyways, i'm off. cya later. |
| [14:25:00] | eidolon: | hah. well. i'm doing -some- VOIP stuff with another provider, so i'm curious what voip system mythtv is using – i just selected it on the menu for giggles, and saw a pair of open windows. does the VOIP system in mythtv 'work' assuming i get a terminated number from a proviuder, and secondly, the two 'windows' on the display -a re they for video? |
| [14:28:00] | Kelerion: | they're for webcam's |
| [14:29:00] | otwin: | eidolon: i once tried it out for fun – i was able to call my voip number from my cell phone and mythphone could pick up the phone. did not have to modify anything on my firewall or do any NAT. that is all i can tell you |
| [14:30:00] | Kelerion: | and about the same experience here |
| [14:30:00] | eidolon: | Kelerion: *nod* that was my question. if i can build a mythbox with a webcam for a couple hundred bucks, that's a videophone, pure and simple. |
| [14:30:00] | eidolon: | in my ongoing explorations, I shall attempt this :) |
| [14:31:00] | ** eidolon is writing another article for the blog now about thejoy that is joystickmenurc ** | |
| [14:32:00] | ** GreyFoxx ponders updating ivtv hrm ** | |
| [14:32:00] | ** Xenna wonders when ivtv is going to support his setup... ** | |
| [14:33:00] | eidolon: | random question du jour. Can i screenshot mythtv? other than pointing my digicam at it and watching hte pretty moire patterns? |
| [14:33:00] | rjune: | on fedora you just hit the print screen button |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Xenna: What setup is that ? |
| [14:34:00] | Xenna: | PVR500 + PVR350 |
| [14:34:00] | Xenna: | On an MSI NEO2 motherboard |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: From a shell witrh theDISPLAY variable set you can use the import command to grab the X screen |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | And it doesn't support those card together now ? |
| [14:34:00] | eidolon: | ah, i wasn't sure if mythtv was in the framebuffer outside of X or not. |
| [14:35:00] | Xenna: | But according to Hans th eproblems is probably in the i2c kernel stuff |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Myth's display is on an X controlled screen, assuming you are not referring to screenshots of playing video |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's a different story |
| [14:35:00] | Xenna: | cards work great on their own, but when I put them in together they both fail in interesting ways |
| [14:36:00] | eidolon: | *nod* i -htought- there was a 'well, sorta' aspect here. for now i just want to grab the main screen. |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | then a simple "import -window root file.jpg" would do it assuming DISPLAY is pointing to the right screen |
| [14:37:00] | Xenna: | Hans Verkuyl and me are currently swapping patches and logfiles on a regular basis :( |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Fun |
| [14:37:00] | eidolon: | GreyFoxx: how savvy are you on xmame settings? i've hit a problem where half my games work, and half don't... (mostly vector games are the issue). on a vga monitor it was fine, but on my standard TV, i have to tune the xmame settings on a per-game basis (/etc/xmame/rc/{romname} change) |
| [14:37:00] | eidolon: | yup, got it on the import. i haven't used import in a long time :) |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | not very |
| [14:37:00] | eidolon: | k |
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| [14:44:00] | eidolon: | bah, even as the 'mythtv' login, with DISPLAY set right, i'm getting 'import: unable to open X server 'localhost:0.0'. ' |
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| [15:06:00] | kRutOn: | Hello. |
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| [15:10:00] | kRutOn: | Has anybody had a problem with MythTV trying to play an MPEG2-TS and just taking up 99.9% of the CPU and not displaying anything while other MPEG2-TS work |
| [15:13:00] | kRutOn: | Then the backend gets stuck at a point where it just says "waiting for a thread..." |
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| [15:28:00] | kRutOn: | Ah, maybe it's getting stuck in autoSelectAudioTrack |
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| [15:29:00] | jono: | what is the myth command that I need to specify in my lirc config for pressing Esc? |
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| [15:31:00] | kRutOn: | uh, esc |
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| [15:35:00] | Juski: | jono: http://pastebin.com/451011 |
| [15:36:00] | jono: | Juski, a star as usual :) |
| [15:36:00] | ** Juski blushes ** | |
| [15:38:00] | Juski: | I just hope that one day when I need help ... ;) |
| [15:38:00] | jono: | I will try :) |
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| [15:44:00] | Juski: | jono: will there be an internet connection at this LUGRadio gig? Or is that a daft question? |
| [15:45:00] | jono: | Juski, no net, we don't want people sat on email all day :) |
| [15:45:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [15:45:00] | Juski: | was just thinking... could do a demo of installing mythtv |
| [15:45:00] | jono: | certainly could :) |
| [15:45:00] | Juski: | like a workshop kind of thing |
| [15:45:00] | jono: | tell you what, the lugradio community are going mythtv mad right now, we featured it in the latest show :) |
| [15:47:00] | Juski: | should be a walk in the park for most of em |
| [15:47:00] | Juski: | I imagine anyway |
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| [15:50:00] | jono: | :) |
| [15:52:00] | Juski: | does anyone know of a way to get xv on a vnc session? |
| [15:55:00] | eidolon: | er. huh? |
| [15:55:00] | eidolon: | xv the graphic editor? |
| [15:55:00] | Juski: | Xv |
| [15:55:00] | eidolon: | ah. |
| [15:55:00] | ** eidolon is 0ld sk00l. i see 'xv' and i think the ancient image viewer :) ** | |
| [15:55:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [15:57:00] | Juski: | just thought of a way round it... do the work on the actual screen of the machine :) |
| [15:57:00] | Juski: | and set the UI size accordingly |
| [15:57:00] | eidolon: | doh :) |
| [15:57:00] | Juski: | just means I have to hook a monitor up to my test system |
| [15:58:00] | eidolon: | i'm about to disconnect my 21" monitor from my myth box. the excternal s-video connection is stable now. can free up some space in the AV corner. |
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| [16:11:00] | Kelerion: | I remember sending an email to lugradio about a year ago and it didn't peak any interest.. lol |
| [16:11:00] | Juski: | well, now that mythical convergence box is in vogue ;) |
| [16:11:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
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| [16:13:00] | kRutOn: | Ah-ha. MythTV totally goes into a tight spin if the MPEG only has mono audio. |
| [16:16:00] | Juski: | eeew |
| [16:16:00] | Juski: | "terminate called after throwing a bad instance of 'std::bad_alloc' |
| [16:16:00] | kRutOn: | juski: Yeah, I ran into that as well. Are you running Fedora Core? |
| [16:16:00] | Juski: | ubuntu |
| [16:17:00] | Juski: | and SVN |
| [16:17:00] | Juski: | that's when I try to go into the program guide in 'watch tv' |
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| [16:26:00] | Juski: | ah it's not doing it now |
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| [16:34:00] | Brixius: | anyone know of a good source of icons for tv channels? |
| [16:34:00] | Juski: | Brixiius: where do you live? Uk? |
| [16:35:00] | Brixius: | us |
| [16:35:00] | Juski: | ah |
| [16:35:00] | Juski: | zap2it? |
| [16:35:00] | Brixius: | ok |
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| [16:40:00] | nuonguy: | Anyone know whether building mythplugins works with gcc4? |
| [16:40:00] | nuonguy: | Or does it require gcc3? |
| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | depends on what version of myth you are compiling |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | 0.18 requires 3 |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | svn should work fine with gcc 4 |
| [16:41:00] | nuonguy: | yeah 0-18-fixes from svn |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea about that |
| [16:42:00] | nuonguy: | Well, that is 0.18, right? |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't what what "fixes" are applied to it :) |
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| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok, sorry I was thinking of something different |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes it is 0.18 |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I doubt it would compile with gcc4 |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | woohoo.. that's the livetv program guide done in <<wide>> now |
| [16:45:00] | kRutOn: | yay, I can finally watch Chinese channels again.. they only have mono audio |
| [16:45:00] | Juski: | mono? eew |
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| [16:51:00] | nuonguy: | Anyone know which repo carries compat-gcc? |
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| [17:06:00] | poop: | 0-18-fixes has post-0.18.1 fixes |
| [17:06:00] | poop: | gcc 4.0 compile fix |
| [17:07:00] | nuonguy: | 0-18-fixes should build with gcc4? |
| [17:07:00] | nuonguy: | Do I understand that corrrectly? |
| [17:07:00] | poop: | r6580 | jarod | 2005-06–03 20:37:17 -0400 (Fri, 03 Jun 2005) | 2 lines |
| [17:07:00] | poop: | nuonguy: looks that way |
| [17:08:00] | poop: | nuonguy: "svn log | less" in the root |
| [17:08:00] | nuonguy: | http://pastebin.com/451111 :: I feel like I must be missing something obvious, but it doesn't build for me |
| [17:08:00] | xris: | or just read through the timeline in trac |
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| [17:14:00] | ** poop starts 0-18-fixes building ** | |
| [17:15:00] | nuonguy: | poop, you doing that cuz I'm asking lame questions? |
| [17:16:00] | nuonguy: | it's mythplugins that's giving me grief |
| [17:16:00] | nuonguy: | mythtv built for me |
| [17:16:00] | poop: | Your questions are like, so lame. |
| [17:17:00] | nuonguy: | like, I'm such a lamer, k? |
| [17:17:00] | nuonguy: | oh, btw, svn log, is like the bomb |
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| [17:17:00] | nuonguy: | totally |
| [17:17:00] | kahuna_: | nuonguy: don't worry man. No question is too lame as long as you're sincere about putting the work in to solve the problem. |
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| [17:18:00] | nuonguy: | I was hoping to get it to build b4 I have to go to work |
| [17:18:00] | kahuna_: | Patience. |
| [17:19:00] | kahuna_: | In the past 2 months of my myth adventure I've learned patience :D |
| [17:19:00] | nuonguy: | i want patience now! |
| [17:19:00] | ole_schoo: | two tears for me :) |
| [17:19:00] | ole_schoo: | years |
| [17:19:00] | kahuna_: | And I've brushed up my shell scripting and c++ coding skills |
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| [17:20:00] | poop: | The ATOMIC bomb |
| [17:20:00] | poop: | Serenity now! |
| [17:21:00] | kahuna_: | hehe |
| [17:21:00] | ol_schoola: | poop: ease up on the coffee :) |
| [17:21:00] | nuonguy: | pass me some coffee, please |
| [17:21:00] | kahuna_: | his nickname is poop. He can't settle down :) |
| [17:21:00] | nuonguy: | ah |
| [17:21:00] | ol_schoola: | nuonguy: sure you want to use the word 'pass'? |
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| [17:22:00] | nuonguy: | um, yah |
| [17:22:00] | nuonguy: | I'm home alone, so only the bird has to suffer |
| [17:23:00] | kahuna_: | is that another euphemism for well... you know? |
| [17:23:00] | ol_schoola: | from dictionary: .... 10. To discharge (body waste, for example); void. |
| [17:24:00] | nuonguy: | http://flickr.com/photos/51035599456@N01/sets/114652/ |
| [17:24:00] | ol_schoola: | euphemism, no. definition, yes |
| [17:24:00] | poop: | I went out yesterday and came back a poopsicle |
| [17:25:00] | nuonguy: | It's time for his breakfast |
| [17:25:00] | nuonguy: | so I type si8ngle-handed |
| [17:27:00] | eidolon: | birdie! |
| [17:27:00] | eidolon: | i had a friend who had a cockatiel in his apartment. |
| [17:27:00] | eidolon: | -everything- was either chewed on or shat on. |
| [17:27:00] | eidolon: | really put me off birds as pets. |
| [17:27:00] | ol_schoola: | rummages about for 12-gauge, small shot |
| [17:27:00] | ol_schoola: | JK |
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| [17:28:00] | nuonguy: | not this guy |
| [17:28:00] | nuonguy: | nothing gets chewed on |
| [17:29:00] | nuonguy: | i get poop^H^H^H^H turd on my occasionally, but no big deal |
| [17:29:00] | nuonguy: | :-) |
| [17:29:00] | poop: | welp, debian unstable has left depds uninstallable |
| [17:29:00] | poop: | deps |
| [17:29:00] | eidolon: | that's why it's unstable :) |
| [17:29:00] | nuonguy: | You have to spend a lot of time with them |
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| [17:30:00] | eidolon: | i'm considering jumping to 'testing' as my platform o choice. i'm on sarge (stable) now. |
| [17:30:00] | eidolon: | but i've heardthere's some glib issues going on. |
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| [17:31:00] | ol_schoola: | been having great success with FC4 and SVN |
| [17:31:00] | ** nuonguy uses FC4 ** | |
| [17:31:00] | eidolon: | yah, i'm not gonna jump to redhat ;) |
| [17:31:00] | nuonguy: | me and loves it |
| [17:31:00] | ol_schoola: | going to try debian this week for the first time |
| [17:31:00] | ** eidolon is a debian wonk. ** | |
| [17:31:00] | eidolon: | nothing beats apt-get :) |
| [17:31:00] | nuonguy: | not even yum? |
| [17:31:00] | ol_schoola: | yum and smart gimme headaches on FC4 |
| [17:31:00] | nuonguy: | besides, apt is supported on FC4 |
| [17:32:00] | nuonguy: | why? |
| [17:32:00] | poop: | testing usually treats me well |
| [17:32:00] | poop: | yum is ass |
| [17:32:00] | ol_schoola: | repo wars |
| [17:32:00] | eidolon: | yah, i ran sarge as 'testing' for quite a while til it went stable. |
| [17:32:00] | eidolon: | but i'm stuck with KDE 3.3 right now. ew. |
| [17:32:00] | eidolon: | (this is on my desktop. not on my myth box) |
| [17:32:00] | poop: | Use apt-rpm if you can. |
| [17:32:00] | ol_schoola: | repo maintainers are split into two camps and they don't play nice together |
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| [17:33:00] | eidolon: | apt-rpm?? that... just seems... wrong. |
| [17:33:00] | ol_schoola: | FC4 maintainers that is |
| [17:34:00] | nuonguy: | rarely bothers me |
| [17:35:00] | poop: | eido: afaik it's still how most redhat types install mythtv |
| [17:35:00] | poop: | I tried fc3 on amd64, but apt-rpm couldn't do multi-arch |
| [17:36:00] | eidolon: | well, i'll probably build up a testing debian install (I'm running knoppmyth right now) on a spare partition, and do an svn build from scratch |
| [17:36:00] | eidolon: | i'll keep my /myth volume seperate :) |
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| [17:38:00] | poop: | This make is completely ignoring $CC and $CXX |
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| [17:38:00] | eidolon: | did you export them? :) |
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| [17:39:00] | poop: | CC="" make |
| [17:39:00] | eidolon: | that won't work. |
| [17:39:00] | eidolon: | export CC="" |
| [17:39:00] | eidolon: | make |
| [17:39:00] | poop: | *sigh* |
| [17:40:00] | poop: | That wasn't what I'm really trying. |
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| [17:41:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, why wouldn't CC="" make work? it's structurally the same as export CC="";make |
| [17:41:00] | poop: | Welp, that's as far as I go. |
| [17:41:00] | ol_schoola: | aaarrrrrgh |
| [17:42:00] | ol_schoola: | got the "/var/www/html/mythweb/.htaccess: AddType not allowed here" error |
| [17:42:00] | ol_schoola: | mod.rewrite and mod.env OK |
| [17:42:00] | eidolon: | kormoc: shell inheritance. if you set a variable in bash or ksh or sh or whatever, and start a new shell, unless it's exported, the new shell instance wn't have that variable. |
| [17:43:00] | ol_schoola: | have AllowOveride Options in httpd.conf |
| [17:43:00] | eidolon: | dbs@hunter:~$ CC="foo" |
| [17:43:00] | eidolon: | dbs@hunter:~$ bash |
| [17:43:00] | eidolon: | dbs@hunter:~$ echo $CC |
| [17:43:00] | eidolon: | dbs@hunter:~$ |
| [17:43:00] | eidolon: | |
| [17:43:00] | poop: | ahh, it's the configure script that detects it apparently in mythtv |
| [17:43:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, right, but if you did CC="foo" echo $CC, it would work |
| [17:44:00] | kormoc: | hence setting cc for just the echo statement |
| [17:44:00] | eidolon: | sure, that's still in the same shell instance. but i betcha that make is gonna shell out at some point to, say, start the compile :) |
| [17:44:00] | kormoc: | as it would for the make statement |
| [17:44:00] | nuonguy: | I thought that a line like "FOO=BAR make" would set the env variable FOO to BAR and then invoke make with that var set" |
| [17:44:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [17:44:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, I beleive it runs in the same shell instance |
| [17:44:00] | eidolon: | my take on this is "alwaysd export" |
| [17:45:00] | nuonguy: | The question is whetner Make's precedence will use the environment variable or the built-in one |
| [17:45:00] | eidolon: | because there are times when the new shell instance won't inherit – like buried in the middle of a make or another shells cript or something. |
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| [17:45:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, edit the Makefile |
| [17:45:00] | poop: | nuon: That's the usual way |
| [17:45:00] | eidolon: | anything that has #!/bin/bash at the top won't see that. |
| [17:45:00] | nuonguy: | But make doesn't have #!/bin/bash at the top of it |
| [17:45:00] | ** eidolon used to teach shell programming in colleges :) ** | |
| [17:45:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, make doesn't do that afaik, it uses the same shell. |
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| [17:45:00] | nuonguy: | FOO=BAR make is the usual way of doing this sort of thing, I thought |
| [17:46:00] | eidolon: | no, but... okay, what i'm saying here is... it's always a good idea to export your vars before running another app. that guarantees the var will be set in all children. |
| [17:46:00] | ** kormoc ponders. ** | |
| [17:46:00] | nuonguy: | The other way to do it is make FOO=BAR |
| [17:46:00] | eidolon: | that's different |
| [17:46:00] | eidolon: | that's setting a -make- variable |
| [17:46:00] | nuonguy: | It's a precedence |
| [17:46:00] | eidolon: | no, they're totally different. |
| [17:46:00] | kormoc: | I think one of the issues is if he leaves CC="" blank, all other makes he does in that shell will be foobared too, leading to many more problems. |
| [17:46:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [17:46:00] | nuonguy: | Make first uses the command line, then it'll check the environment variable, then it'll use the defaults |
| [17:46:00] | eidolon: | true. |
| [17:47:00] | eidolon: | this, btw, is one of the reasons MAKE IS THE APPLICATION FROM HELL!!!! |
| [17:47:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, that all depends on the makefile |
| [17:47:00] | eidolon: | it's #2 Satan Street. Right next door to #1... Emacs |
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| [17:47:00] | nuonguy: | You mena whether they use FOO=BAR, FOO:=BAR, FOO?=BAR and all that? |
| [17:47:00] | nuonguy: | Make is a little idiosyncratic, but I like it |
| [17:48:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, yup, it's all dependant on the make file author |
| [17:48:00] | nuonguy: | Not as scary as emacs, I think |
| [17:48:00] | eidolon: | fortunately, i use ant :) |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | greg@blurb:~$ CC="foo" bash -c "bash moo.sh" |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | CC = foo |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | greg@blurb:~$ cat moo.sh |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | #!/bin/sh |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | echo CC = $CC |
| [17:48:00] | ol_schoola: | never mind, just re-read ticket 517, Options no longer works, All is required |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | so after two layers of bash CC is still there |
| [17:48:00] | eidolon: | which, ya know, actually was -designed- rather than just simmered in a pot and grew tendrils of evil for 20 years. |
| [17:48:00] | nuonguy: | But mythplugins just uses FOO=BAR, so say 'FOO=BAR make' ought to do the right tning |
| [17:48:00] | ol_schoola: | SVN README still indicates Options is valid |
| [17:49:00] | nuonguy: | ant, huh? |
| [17:49:00] | nuonguy: | You a Java programmer? |
| [17:49:00] | eidolon: | GreyFoxx: did you export CC before running that? |
| [17:49:00] | eidolon: | i am. |
| [17:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Nope |
| [17:49:00] | eidolon: | hm. i need to dig that more. bash may be doing something odd. |
| [17:49:00] | poop: | In trunk, mythplugins/configure does the right thing when you feed it $CC |
| [17:50:00] | nuonguy: | ok |
| [17:50:00] | eidolon: | hah |
| [17:50:00] | nuonguy: | poop: does all this matter anyway? This is supposed to build with gcc4 |
| [17:50:00] | eidolon: | see. |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been using CC=gcc make a or CC=gcc ./configure etc etc for almost 10 years without any inheritance problems, but maybe I've been lucky |
| [17:50:00] | eidolon: | i just reproduced what -i'm- saying. |
| [17:50:00] | eidolon: | sec. |
| [17:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | either way It's lunch time for me |
| [17:51:00] | poop: | nuonguy: I'm trying to CC="ccache gcc-4.0" :) |
| [17:51:00] | nuonguy: | (I'm also on my computer at work and so I'm trying to multiplex this conversation with work) |
| [17:51:00] | nuonguy: | oh |
| [17:51:00] | nuonguy: | cool |
| [17:51:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, TEST="booya" bash -c "echo $TEST" returns blank for me. |
| [17:51:00] | eidolon: | http://pastebin.com/451162 |
| [17:52:00] | eidolon: | right. what kormoc just said. |
| [17:52:00] | eidolon: | it's an easy gotcha. |
| [17:52:00] | nuonguy: | kormoc: That's not what's going on with Make though |
| [17:53:00] | Kelerion: | TEST="booya"; bash -c "echo $TEST" |
| [17:53:00] | Kelerion: | try that |
| [17:53:00] | eidolon: | that will print nothing. |
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| [17:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: I get the same from your test as you doo, but calling a shellscript appears to be different |
| [17:53:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. prints |
| [17:53:00] | nuonguy: | Two sepearte shell invocations |
| [17:53:00] | eidolon: | dude |
| [17:53:00] | eidolon: | you idjit |
| [17:53:00] | eidolon: | you're using " |
| [17:53:00] | eidolon: | replace hat with ' |
| [17:53:00] | kormoc: | Kelerion, yeah, that works, but the idea is for that single command only. |
| [17:53:00] | eidolon: | the interpolation is happening before the execution. |
| [17:53:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, yeah, tis weird |
| [17:53:00] | nuonguy: | Yeah, command line substitution |
| [17:53:00] | Kelerion: | TEST="booya" bash -c 'echo $TEST' works |
| [17:54:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [17:54:00] | eidolon: | you have a space there |
| [17:54:00] | eidolon: | i have NO idea what syntax that is :) |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | greg@blurb:~$ unset TEST; TEST="booya" bash -c "bash moo.sh" |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | TEST = booya |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | reg@blurb:~$ unset TEST; TEST="booya" bash moo.sh |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | TEST = booya |
| [17:54:00] | eidolon: | TEST="booya"; bash -c 'echo $TEST' |
| [17:54:00] | eidolon: | that does not work |
| [17:54:00] | eidolon: | okay, i see the weirdness. |
| [17:55:00] | Kelerion: | I give in.. I have no idea what I'm doing anyways.. lol |
| [17:55:00] | eidolon: | the "set var" "space" "command" thing is an oddity in shell stuff. |
| [17:55:00] | ivor: | eidolon: remove the semicolon. |
| [17:55:00] | eidolon: | it sets a shell variable for a single execution.. |
| [17:55:00] | eidolon: | yes, i know |
| [17:55:00] | eidolon: | ivor, that's why iu said 'the space' is the oddity. |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Exactly |
| [17:55:00] | eidolon: | that's. |
| [17:55:00] | eidolon: | warped. :) |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's handy |
| [17:55:00] | eidolon: | i vaguely remember something about this really tripping up a developer once... |
| [17:57:00] | poop: | Anyone know if Rockport shoes should feel like they're going to fall off, even if the size seems right? |
| [17:57:00] | ** poop branches ** | |
| [17:57:00] | ** nuonguy has to use sccs at work, which makes him grateful for cvs and especailly svn ** | |
| [17:57:00] | eidolon: | i've had rockport boots for... er...3–4 years now. love 'em. fit perfectly. |
| [17:57:00] | eidolon: | nuonguy: someone is actually using sccs still? |
| [17:58:00] | nuonguy: | poop: how much difference does ccache make anyway? |
| [17:58:00] | nuonguy: | Oh yeah |
| [17:58:00] | nuonguy: | and I hate it |
| [17:58:00] | poop: | eido: Are they very snug? I've got a little room (despite buying 1/2 size smaller than normal) and they fall off my heels a bit |
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| [17:58:00] | eidolon: | nope, not at all. they fit perfectyl. i'm wearing htem out, in fact :( (size 12's) |
| [17:59:00] | poop: | I haven't worn them, pondering returning them. Craigslist has been a complete bust. |
| [17:59:00] | poop: | There's no way I need a 9.5 when 10.5 is normal for me. |
| [17:59:00] | poop: | My feet are shrinking! |
| [17:59:00] | nuonguy: | My feet shrunk when I went from 230lbs to 180lbs |
| [17:59:00] | eidolon: | http://www.flickr.com/photos/planet-geek/70545873/ <-- that's even me wearing them :) |
| [18:00:00] | poop: | My last shoes just gave it up after ~5 years. |
| [18:00:00] | poop: | nuon: Among other things,eh? |
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| [18:00:00] | afrosheenix: | has anyone attempted to add more visualizations to mythmusic? |
| [18:00:00] | nuonguy: | yeah |
| [18:01:00] | nuonguy: | :-) |
| [18:01:00] | afrosheenix: | bored with goom |
| [18:01:00] | nuonguy: | So, does using ccache make a noticeable difference? |
| [18:02:00] | poop: | nuon: On the second compile, a world of difference |
| [18:02:00] | nuonguy: | Any clue on what I'm doing wrong with http://pastebin.com/451111 ? |
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| [18:02:00] | ** afrosheenix sets himself +v ** | |
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| [18:03:00] | afrosheenix: | check two one two |
| [18:05:00] | eidolon: | i'm looking forward to putting more visualizations in. |
| [18:05:00] | eidolon: | i use...er... whatever hte stereo bar thingie is. |
| [18:05:00] | afrosheenix: | I've loved the iris3d plugin for a long time but it never made it in |
| [18:06:00] | eidolon: | hey, so. anyone seen an audio problem where somehwere in the livetv -> xmame -> SNES emulator -> livetv... one of hte stereo channels cuts out and/or the audio level drops down very very low? |
| [18:06:00] | afrosheenix: | http://cdelfosse.free.fr/xmms-iris/ |
| [18:06:00] | eidolon: | nice one. |
| [18:07:00] | nuonguy: | so pretty |
| [18:07:00] | eidolon: | hey... wait. does mythtv use xmms? (yes, i'm a TOTAL idjit in some aspects of the system. suck it up and deal :) |
| [18:07:00] | nuonguy: | dude, relax |
| [18:07:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, check your alsa mixer and see if the one channel is lower then the other |
| [18:07:00] | nuonguy: | No, it doesn't |
| [18:07:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, no, myth doesn't use xmms :P |
| [18:07:00] | afrosheenix: | I don't think it does |
| [18:08:00] | afrosheenix: | it's playing right now with goom and xmms is not a listed process |
| [18:08:00] | eidolon: | kormoc: hmmm. possibly... have to remember how do this from the command line. (myth box is *poiunts* over there) |
| [18:08:00] | afrosheenix: | ps aux | grep xmms |
| [18:08:00] | eidolon: | hmm. |
| [18:08:00] | ** eidolon looks at alsamixer. ** | |
| [18:08:00] | rjune: | eidolon: ssh root@mythbox |
| [18:08:00] | rjune: | then run aumix |
| [18:09:00] | eidolon: | no i got it |
| [18:09:00] | eidolon: | http://www.homeport.org/~dbs/screenshots/alsamixer-1.png |
| [18:09:00] | eidolon: | looks fine, yes? |
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| [18:11:00] | afrosheenix: | looks fine to me |
| [18:11:00] | afrosheenix: | you're on the stereo master mixer and it's balanced |
| [18:11:00] | ** eidolon runs up mythmusic. ** | |
| [18:12:00] | nuonguy: | I guess I screwed up by not qmaking one of the .pro files |
| [18:12:00] | ** nuonguy is a bit of a dumbshit sometimes ** | |
| [18:12:00] | afrosheenix: | how do I find out who's responsible for coding mythmusic |
| [18:13:00] | eidolon: | afrosheenix: do you ahve a particular question? |
| [18:13:00] | eidolon: | odd, livetv is now balanced properly. |
| [18:13:00] | eidolon: | i wonder if alsamixer reset something |
| [18:14:00] | dennis_p: | ok about to run mythtv-setup after finishing ubuntu guide. should I place tv_grab_nl somewhere special before running mythtv-setup? |
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| [18:15:00] | afrosheenix: | eidolon: yeah I want to figure out how to add these vis plugins to it |
| [18:16:00] | afrosheenix: | guess I could grep through the source and see where goom hooks in and try to piece it together but why not just ask the author |
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| [18:22:00] | kahuna_: | afrosheenix: I assume that you looked in the release notes, readme, etc. for the email address of the mythtmusic author? |
| [18:23:00] | afrosheenix: | I casually dug through it one day and found nothing but I can look again |
| [18:23:00] | afrosheenix: | mythtv is a weird project |
| [18:24:00] | eidolon: | heh |
| [18:24:00] | eidolon: | it's very linux-y. |
| [18:24:00] | kahuna_: | It's a weird project that I love. |
| [18:24:00] | eidolon: | a bunch of things that all work together, all maintained by different people and different sources :) |
| [18:24:00] | Spida_ is now known as Spida | |
| [18:24:00] | eidolon: | i just posted to my blog of the joy that is joystickmenurc |
| [18:24:00] | kahuna_: | and sometimes love to hate, esp. when livetv breaks :) |
| [18:25:00] | eidolon: | "Ya know, it would be great if i could use my game joysticks to control the myth menus." "Hey! and look at that!" |
| [18:25:00] | dennis_p: | mythtv-setup suggests 'Database: mythconverg' I don't remember ever Naming the database anything... ? |
| [18:25:00] | eidolon: | myth-setup probably did |
| [18:26:00] | ** nuonguy gets mythplugins to build after getting his head out of his arse ** | |
| [18:26:00] | eidolon: | thanks for sharing :) |
| [18:27:00] | eidolon: | xmms-iris – advanced OpenGL visualization plugin for XMMS |
| [18:27:00] | eidolon: | well look at that. |
| [18:27:00] | ** eidolon installs ** | |
| [18:27:00] | dennis_p: | The terminal says access denied for mythtv@localhost |
| [18:27:00] | kahuna_: | It would be cool ifI could use my nintendo power glove to control myth |
| [18:27:00] | eidolon: | hah |
| [18:27:00] | rjune: | LOL |
| [18:27:00] | rjune: | can you use the power glove with linux at all? |
| [18:27:00] | eidolon: | http://planet-geek.com/archives/002062.html <-- my latest mythtv article. |
| [18:28:00] | kahuna_: | I don't know, but if I can. I'll send patches :P |
| [18:30:00] | eidolon: | wow... iris is very cool 8) |
| [18:30:00] | ** eidolon watches the pretty lights. ** | |
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| [18:31:00] | eidolon: | yah, having iris as an available visualizer in mythmusic would be verrahnice. |
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| [18:36:00] | rjune: | kahuna_: please do, I wanna play with my power glove |
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| [18:36:00] | kahuna_: | I got plenty of use out of my power golve as a teen. It's in pretty awful shape now |
| [18:37:00] | rjune: | I got a pair of 'em at a garage sale |
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| [18:38:00] | ol_schoola: | kahuna: that last line read SO WRONG |
| [18:38:00] | rjune: | ol_schoola: pervert |
| [18:38:00] | kahuna_: | lol |
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| [18:38:00] | kahuna_: | gross! |
| [18:39:00] | kahuna_: | ol_schoola: you wanna buy an old crusty power glove then? :) |
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| [18:39:00] | rjune: | no |
| [18:39:00] | ol_schoola: | eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww! |
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| [18:40:00] | ** ol_schoola has no /etc/apache2 .... just /etc/httpd ** | |
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| [18:41:00] | ol_schoola: | should this be a propblem with the modules loading? no complaints in log |
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| [18:42:00] | ol_schoola: | getting the Database Setup Problem page when hitting mythweb |
| [18:43:00] | _willcooke_: | Can anyone help me with dvb in the uk. Having all sorts of problems getting the channels set up |
| [18:43:00] | ol_schoola: | checked line 35 in /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/init.php where the error.log barked... |
| [18:43:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: what sort of problems? |
| [18:44:00] | ol_schoola: | ...and noticed it calls mod_env for PATH INFO |
| [18:44:00] | _willcooke_: | Hey Juski, Are you always here?! ;) Well, I think I've worked out why I cant watch live tv. It would seem that my channels aren't being populated properly. |
| [18:44:00] | ol_schoola: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . _env;#164553 has the answer but I have the old configuration path |
| [18:45:00] | Kelerion: | just finished listening to the lugradio review of myth.. got a nice review |
| [18:45:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: step 1... do a scan (dvb util) and make a channels.conf.. Step2: look in channels.conf & make a note of some details from the 1st channel. Step3: go into mythtv-setup and do a channel scan, but enter the initial tuning parameters from the channels.conf you took notes from rather than do a complete scan ... that _should_ get you everything |
| [18:46:00] | Juski: | I tend to lurk a lot ;) |
| [18:46:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I got that going yesterday, but I've wiped it all and started again. I'll give it a go. One thing I've noticed is that I can't do a channel scan until I've set up a video source, is that normal? |
| [18:47:00] | Juski: | yes |
| [18:47:00] | Juski: | the annoying bit is that you technically don't even need a 'video source' when you have DVB |
| [18:47:00] | _willcooke_: | Ah, OK. Right, I'm doing a tv_grab_uk_rt with only one channel set, so it will do it quickly, just waiting for that to finish..... |
| [18:47:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, that's done. |
| [18:47:00] | Juski: | infact I skipped that part of the setup, and I'm getting guide data from the on-air stuff |
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| [18:48:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: it _should_ work like this: populate your channels using the mythtv-setup DVB scanner |
| [18:48:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, ahhhhhhh! Good even better. I've download and compiled tv_grab_dvb and got it running, how to I integrate that with myth. |
| [18:48:00] | Juski: | you don't need that with 0.18 |
| [18:49:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I'm using the Breezy packages, let me find what version this is... |
| [18:49:00] | Juski: | I installed 0.18 from breezy on Thursday of last week |
| [18:50:00] | _willcooke_: | Ah, ok. Then I should be golden. tv_grab_dvb doesnt appear in my list of grabbers, should it? |
| [18:50:00] | Juski: | mythtv will automatically populate the programguide from DVB EIT itself as a matter of course (so long as a DVB tuner is active) |
| [18:51:00] | Juski: | no, tv_grab_dvb shouldn't appear in the list of grabbers |
| [18:51:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, right hold on a sec, I'll change the card set up so that it's always active... |
| [18:51:00] | Juski: | tv_grab_uk_rt showed up and I didn't even have xmltv installed (lol) |
| [18:52:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Can you step me through this, I'll run setup again and delete the cards and the channels. |
| [18:52:00] | Juski: | no probs |
| [18:52:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, OK, deleted cards and channels. |
| [18:52:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, 1. General.... |
| [18:53:00] | Juski: | shouldn't need to go in there.. unless you've not already had it working |
| [18:53:00] | _willcooke_: | IP address correct, dir's all ok, everything else ok |
| [18:53:00] | Juski: | cool |
| [18:53:00] | _willcooke_: | 2. Capture cards. |
| [18:53:00] | Juski: | 2. capture cards |
| [18:53:00] | _willcooke_: | New cap card |
| [18:54:00] | Juski: | aye. select your card |
| [18:54:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, card 0, it's detected the type (I'll leave the other card for now) |
| [18:54:00] | Juski: | then go advanced... use TS recording |
| [18:54:00] | Juski: | then erm.. video sources |
| [18:54:00] | kahuna_: | just curious, why TS? |
| [18:55:00] | Juski: | cures a number of audio anomalies we UK users sometimes get |
| [18:55:00] | kahuna_: | I see. |
| [18:55:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, vid sources, --> new source |
| [18:55:00] | Juski: | oh and also select 'use hardware decoder'.. this also helps |
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| [18:55:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I dont have a hw decoder, does that matter? |
| [18:55:00] | Juski: | right will... select tv_grab_uk_rt and select FINISH |
| [18:56:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, thats sat there at 50% I need to go back and tell it about the chans now? |
| [18:56:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: it doesn't matter – but changes something about how the driver deals with the card – also helps with audio probs allegedly |
| [18:56:00] | Juski: | will – press ALT TAB |
| [18:57:00] | _willcooke_: | done, I've told it I want BBC 1 and nothing else, for now anyway.... |
| [18:57:00] | Juski: | right.. so it'll be like north-west.bbc1.bbc.co.uk |
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| [18:58:00] | _willcooke_: | something like that, so now to chan edit? |
| [18:58:00] | Juski: | so now go in & do a scan |
| [18:58:00] | _willcooke_: | I cant select scan for channels |
| [18:59:00] | Juski: | ahh you've not linked the video source to the capture card yet ;) |
| [18:59:00] | _willcooke_: | AHHHH! |
| [19:00:00] | _willcooke_: | Sorted, OK, doing a scan |
| [19:00:00] | Juski: | complete scan? |
| [19:00:00] | _willcooke_: | this will take a few mins |
| [19:00:00] | _willcooke_: | yeah, complete |
| [19:00:00] | Juski: | yeah.. a _few_ mins lol |
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| [19:01:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, looking good so far, 84%..... |
| [19:02:00] | _willcooke_: | done |
| [19:02:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, there's my channels! |
| [19:02:00] | Juski: | cool |
| [19:02:00] | _willcooke_: | now what!? |
| [19:02:00] | Juski: | now go into the channel editor |
| [19:03:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, I can see them there, and a few dodgy ones, like the beeb interactive stuff |
| [19:03:00] | Juski: | and set each channel to have an xmltv id |
| [19:03:00] | Juski: | initially, just do bbc1 |
| [19:04:00] | Juski: | then quit out of the setup program and do mythfilldatabase |
| [19:04:00] | _willcooke_: | is that the bbc1.bbc.co.uk stuff? |
| [19:04:00] | Juski: | I remember you saying you don't want to use the onair guide |
| [19:04:00] | Juski: | yes |
| [19:04:00] | _willcooke_: | Well, after you said the RT one was a bit weighty, I think I'd prefer the dvb one. |
| [19:05:00] | Juski: | you can find a list of all the xmltv IDs in the tv_grab_uk_rt directory (I think it lives in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt) |
| [19:05:00] | Juski: | one thing tho – the RT guide has star ratings for films – very handy |
| [19:05:00] | Juski: | and it's 2 weeks' worth of data |
| [19:05:00] | Juski: | on-air is just 7 |
| [19:05:00] | Juski: | (if you're lucky) |
| [19:06:00] | kahuna_: | I noticed that the ratings are very strict though. Lots of 1 and 2 star movies |
| [19:06:00] | _willcooke_: | Hmmmm, let's go for the RT one for now |
| [19:06:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, hold on a sec, just making sure I got the right xmltv id |
| [19:06:00] | Juski: | they have high standards ;) |
| [19:06:00] | _willcooke_: | I don't! |
| [19:06:00] | Juski: | so you'll be wanting all the ITV channels then.. lol |
| [19:06:00] | ** Juski is a snob ** | |
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| [19:08:00] | _willcooke_: | F**K off, ITV is the great unwashed |
| [19:08:00] | _willcooke_: | ;) |
| [19:09:00] | Juski: | ITV4's ok though.. they been showing Larry Sanders |
| [19:09:00] | _willcooke_: | ITV2 had 3rd rock for a while |
| [19:09:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, fill is running |
| [19:09:00] | Juski: | and what _will_ we all talk about now "I used to be on telly once, get me outta here" has finished? ;) |
| [19:09:00] | dennis_p: | I'm running breezy too :-) |
| [19:10:00] | _willcooke_: | ubuntu is full of goodness! |
| [19:10:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I avoid that sort of crap, although the new c4 one about the space cadets might be ok? |
| [19:10:00] | Juski: | I dunno.. it's a reality TV show.. so I'd guess not |
| [19:11:00] | dennis_p: | I followed abacadadia but it does not connect to the database |
| [19:11:00] | Juski: | dennis_p: you need to grant permissions to the mythtv mysql user (after creating it) |
| [19:11:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, I had that problem yesterday, the solution was to change the ip address from 127.0.0.1 to the actual address |
| [19:11:00] | _willcooke_: | or that |
| [19:11:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, fill is finished! |
| [19:12:00] | Juski: | it's in the howto, dennis_p |
| [19:12:00] | Juski: | right _willcooke_ fire up mythfrontend |
| [19:12:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, just checking the db in myphpadmin |
| [19:12:00] | Juski: | you should have guide data for bbc1 now |
| [19:12:00] | Juski: | best way is to look at what mythtv's doing |
| [19:12:00] | _willcooke_: | should the freqid have something in it? |
| [19:12:00] | Juski: | nope |
| [19:13:00] | Juski: | only matters for peeps with DBOX2 and analogue tuners |
| [19:13:00] | _willcooke_: | ah ok, the dvb pids and channel is empty too |
| [19:13:00] | dennis_p: | which ip adress it should just connect to localhost but I think it got the name of the database wrong I don't rememeber ever setting a name for the database |
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| [19:13:00] | _willcooke_: | right, I'm going to fire up frontend on this box, not the backend server, that should still work right? |
| [19:13:00] | Juski: | dennis_p: the name should be mythconverg |
| [19:14:00] | Juski: | no will.. you need the backend running for the frontend to work |
| [19:14:00] | _willcooke_: | cant I just start the backend then? |
| [19:14:00] | Juski: | fire up the backend |
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| [19:15:00] | _willcooke_: | right, I've got a tail running on the myth log, and I'll start the front end on here, is that correct? |
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| [19:15:00] | dennis_p: | www.abarbaccia.com the mythtv page is where I am at |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: yep |
| [19:16:00] | dennis_p: | it doesn't name the database |
| [19:16:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, front end started |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | the database is installed when you install mythtv, dennis_p |
| [19:16:00] | Juski: | in ubuntu anyway |
| [19:17:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, I can see bbc1 in the guide |
| [19:17:00] | dennis_p: | Ah then it should work but doesn't :-( |
| [19:17:00] | _willcooke_: | GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [19:18:00] | _willcooke_: | HA! Slight problem, it seems to be ITV! |
| [19:18:00] | Juski: | so now, Will.. you need the other XMLTVIDs for the rest of the channels, and the grabber needs to know it has to grab them |
| [19:18:00] | Juski: | ? |
| [19:18:00] | _willcooke_: | Ah, up and down to change channels! |
| [19:18:00] | Juski: | but you'll only have guide data for bbc1 right? |
| [19:19:00] | _willcooke_: | I think that was my main problem, I didnt set those xmltv ids! |
| [19:19:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Are you going to LUGradio live next year? If so, then I owe you a shed load of beer! |
| [19:19:00] | Juski: | so have a peek in the file called chanids within the tv_grab_uk_rt directory – all the XMLTV IDs are there |
| [19:20:00] | _willcooke_: | Ooo, Top Gear! |
| [19:20:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, will do, that'll keep me busy for a few hours! |
| [19:20:00] | Juski: | and to save you doing mythtv-setup again, you can edit the <whatever>.conf file in your ~/.mythtv directory |
| [19:20:00] | Juski: | where <whatever> is the name of the video source you used |
| [19:20:00] | _willcooke_: | Will do |
| [19:20:00] | Juski: | since you're buying, I'm GOING! |
| [19:20:00] | _willcooke_: | I think I left the name blank! Ooops! |
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| [19:21:00] | Juski: | so it'll be called <whitespace>.conf |
| [19:21:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Sweet! I'll see if I can convince Jono or one of the other boys to put us up, I think Jono owes you a few as well?! |
| [19:21:00] | Juski: | sweeten the deal why don'tcha ...hehehh |
| [19:21:00] | Juski: | I don't mind paying board for a night – don't sweat it |
| [19:22:00] | _willcooke_: | No big LUG-love-in then! ;) |
| [19:22:00] | Juski: | if jono can swing a discount that'd be sweet tho |
| [19:23:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I would think he'd let you in free.. they normally do this thing that if you can think of a good reason not to pay, you dont have to. |
| [19:23:00] | dennis_p: | I have a mysql.txt file should I change localhost or something? |
| [19:23:00] | Juski: | dennis_p: everything you need to know is in that howto |
| [19:23:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, try setting it to your actualy IP address, or run mythtv-setup again, it should ask you to set the database connections up again |
| [19:23:00] | Juski: | I'm already down as going with a mythtv box anyway Will :) |
| [19:24:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, however, bear in mind I've been using myth for approx 5 mins |
| [19:24:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Excellent! |
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| [19:26:00] | _willcooke_: | Hey, that's not bad the pokey little 1.8 celleron is ticking over at about 2 % usage for the backend |
| [19:26:00] | Juski: | ugh what's with my ubuntu not wanting to go up to 1280x1024? I've got a monitor hooked up that'll cope with that |
| [19:26:00] | Juski: | not bad eh will... try mythfrontend & watch some telly though |
| [19:27:00] | will__: | I have a hardware question about harddrives. I am trying to find a new harddrive for a workstation, and I came across the Maxtor QuickView series. They say they are "designed for PVR", however I don't see how they're different than normal PC drives. I'm skeptical because the 100gb QuickView drive is in the price range of 80gb PC drives. What's the difference? |
| [19:27:00] | Juski: | will__: probably cache optimisation |
| [19:28:00] | will__: | designed for reading large continuous files? |
| [19:28:00] | Juski: | basically |
| [19:28:00] | will__: | instead of more random access? |
| [19:28:00] | will__: | hmm, good enough. thanks |
| [19:28:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I am! I'm running the front end on here, watching top gear! |
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| [19:28:00] | Juski: | watched it on Sunday... it used to be good, but now it's like WHOAHHHH! :D |
| [19:29:00] | _willcooke_: | :D |
| [19:29:00] | Juski: | did you see that Tsunami documentary last night.. jees man! |
| [19:29:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I'm running this box at 1280 by 1024, and all is good, so it's not a bug |
| [19:29:00] | _willcooke_: | Nah mate, I was doing battle with this until about mid night |
| [19:29:00] | Juski: | I'll have to investigate my xorg.conf then.. and I hate doing that |
| [19:30:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, do you want a copy of mine? |
| [19:30:00] | Juski: | aye go on .. pop it in a pastebin |
| [19:31:00] | _willcooke_: | http://pastebin.com/451297 |
| [19:31:00] | Juski: | ahhh! no need _willcooke_ |
| [19:31:00] | Juski: | found what's up |
| [19:31:00] | _willcooke_: | sweet! |
| [19:32:00] | _willcooke_: | typo? |
| [19:32:00] | Juski: | there's no "1280x1024" in the xorg.conf |
| [19:32:00] | Juski: | muppets |
| [19:32:00] | nuonguy: | _willcooke_: what LUG radio? |
| [19:32:00] | _willcooke_: | nuonguy, www.lugradio.org ! :) |
| [19:32:00] | dennis_p: | ha forgot that the pasword was set to mythtv by the guide, local ip did not work, localhost did, yeah on to the next level |
| [19:33:00] | _willcooke_: | good work! |
| [19:33:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, there bloody is |
| [19:33:00] | nuonguy: | lugradio.org is not yet loading... |
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| [19:33:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, oh, you mean there isnt in yours? |
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| [19:33:00] | Juski: | that's what I meant |
| [19:33:00] | nuonguy: | At least there's a google cache |
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| [19:33:00] | nuonguy: | Lugradio sounds like fun |
| [19:34:00] | nuonguy: | Can I go? |
| [19:34:00] | _willcooke_: | nuonguy, I think a new episode was out yesterday so the server is prolly busy. |
| [19:34:00] | _willcooke_: | Anyone can go! |
| [19:34:00] | nuonguy: | k |
| [19:34:00] | Juski: | the more, the drunker.. or something |
| [19:34:00] | nuonguy: | Sounds like my type of event |
| [19:35:00] | nuonguy: | Only, it'll be hard to travel to the UK for me |
| [19:35:00] | _willcooke_: | Where are you? |
| [19:35:00] | Juski: | just send a 419 letter out.. someone's bound to be stupid.. I mean _generous_ enough ;) |
| [19:35:00] | nuonguy: | california |
| [19:35:00] | _willcooke_: | :D |
| [19:35:00] | nuonguy: | heh |
| [19:36:00] | nuonguy: | THere was a speaker from turbocash at lugradio |
| [19:36:00] | nuonguy: | Sounds cool, right? |
| [19:36:00] | nuonguy: | Don't go to turbocash.com from work! |
| [19:36:00] | nuonguy: | NSFW! |
| [19:36:00] | _willcooke_: | Start saving! You could get a flight for about 500 bucks I guess, and there's a prize for the person who travels the furthest. |
| [19:36:00] | _willcooke_: | I better have a look! |
| [19:36:00] | _willcooke_: | Quality! That's my kinda web site! |
| [19:37:00] | _willcooke_: | naked chicks. How the internet is paid for |
| [19:37:00] | nuonguy: | hahahaha |
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| [19:37:00] | Juski: | Carlos Mendoza!!!! :D |
| [19:38:00] | _willcooke_: | Now there's a villans name if ever there was one |
| [19:38:00] | nuonguy: | I don't get it |
| [19:39:00] | nuonguy: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Mendoza ?? |
| [19:39:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Can myth do multi casting? |
| [19:40:00] | Juski: | ermm I'm not sure |
| [19:40:00] | Juski: | there's a streaming plugin for it |
| [19:40:00] | Juski: | uses VLC, so if VLC can.. you can |
| [19:41:00] | Juski: | now in glorious 24bit 1280x1024 :D |
| [19:41:00] | _willcooke_: | Huzzah! |
| [19:41:00] | Juski: | dunno how I ended up with /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes in my xorg.conf though :-/ |
| [19:41:00] | _willcooke_: | Ha! pressed the middle button?! |
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| [19:42:00] | Juski: | like I said.. dunno |
| [19:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth doesn't directly support multicast, it is however in the list of "todo" items that wouldbe nice to see :) |
| [19:44:00] | _willcooke_: | GreyFoxx, good stuff. Shouldn't be hard to do, if it streams directly to an ip address, I guess it can stream to a multicast address |
| [19:44:00] | _willcooke_: | In fact........ a little bit of bodging with netcat might do the trick! |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | It just requires someone to do the work :) |
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| [19:46:00] | Juski: | did I just see someone volunteer to do a patch? |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think he did :) |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though in reality it would be more complicated than we described |
| [19:46:00] | Chutt: | juski, you like the big white border around watermark images on the menus? |
| [19:47:00] | _willcooke_: | I don't do C! Only python! ;) |
| [19:48:00] | Krazylegz: | _willcooke_: Can you write python that outputs C? |
| [19:48:00] | _willcooke_: | :D |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, haha, I was bout to type the same thing |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | do you not like the border, Chutt? |
| [19:48:00] | Chutt: | no :p |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | I can bin that |
| [19:48:00] | Chutt: | it's your theme :p |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Fight the power! |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | any other comments? |
| [19:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx needs a wide tv :( ** | |
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| [19:49:00] | kahuna_: | I want a 48" HDTV |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | general consensus seems to be that those who see it either like it or can't be arsed to comment |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | so er.. I'm just putting a shot out into the dark ;) |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | i just thought the watermarks in the non-wide theme looked better |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | I was thinking of making the non-wide marks the same lol |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | hey.. give the user the choice... |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | all they'd have to do is one move |
| [19:51:00] | Juski: | I'm amazed there's not been more theming activity actually, given that everyone & his dog does stuff for other skinnable programs |
| [19:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [19:52:00] | Juski: | but at the same time, very glad that the developers are staying hard at it :) |
| [19:53:00] | Juski: | cos without you guys... no – lets not even go there |
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| [19:54:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders how much effort it will be to have the clock on a paused recording update as time passes ** | |
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| [19:58:00] | dennis_p: | Ok everything looks ok now config want to run tv_grab_nl and says command not found in terminal. I have downloaded the latest tv_grab_nl where should I put it? |
| [19:58:00] | Juski: | /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin |
| [19:59:00] | Juski: | or just put a link to it in there |
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| [20:00:00] | dennis_p: | thank you very much, I will be writting a full kubuntu guide when done. :-) |
| [20:01:00] | dennis_p: | using a spellchecker of course |
| [20:01:00] | kahuna_: | Anyone have an inkling as to how close we are to 0.19? |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | hopefully by NYE |
| [20:02:00] | Juski: | just think of all the user list posts.. people drunk as skunks upgrading to 0.19 ;) |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh might be an improvement in the overal message quality :) |
| [20:03:00] | Juski: | "I got this tuner card for xmas... will it work with mythtv if I stand on my head & sing loudly?" |
| [20:05:00] | kahuna_: | Juski: I'd like to see the quality of those patches then |
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| [20:08:00] | kahuna_: | 0.19 will be a good way to start off the new year |
| [20:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why wait? Get a headstart on |
| [20:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | '06 now! |
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| [20:11:00] | _sixi|1b: | Hi, is it posible to let mythtv check my already existing rips (divx & svcds) with the imdb? |
| [20:12:00] | laga: | _sixi|1b: check mythvideo |
| [20:12:00] | kahuna_: | My wife doesn't like svn :) |
| [20:12:00] | _sixi|1b: | laga what u mean? |
| [20:13:00] | _sixi|1b: | have mythvideo installed, but the existing files only shown with their filenames, but not with information from the imdb |
| [20:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | kahuna_: That's all I ever run. My GF doesn't know the difference |
| [20:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | _sixi|1b: You have to load up Video Manager(under mythvideo) and then for each video try to pull in the imdb data. It wont doing it automatically |
| [20:14:00] | laga: | _sixi|1b: :) look for the video manager. choose a file there and hit "m", that's how it works me things |
| [20:14:00] | laga: | thinks* |
| [20:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if the search can't find it you can enter the imdb id number |
| [20:14:00] | kahuna_: | GreyFoxx: So live tv must be stabilizing then? |
| [20:15:00] | _sixi|1b: | ah, thx :D didnt found that function :) |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | kahuna_: I haven't run into much if any issues since it was reenabled weeks ago |
| [20:15:00] | _sixi|1b: | do you know wether there is a german support for imdb? |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | But then I rarely if ever use livetv |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I used it to test quickly but that's all |
| [20:16:00] | laga: | _sixi|1b: join #mythtv-de ;) |
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| [20:19:00] | dennis_p: | mythtv-setup tries to run tv_grab_nl but says: Can't locate XMLTV/Version.pm in @INC |
| [20:21:00] | dennis_p: | perhaps it is not installed? I don't think it got everything from the ubuntu repositories as it did not download 80MB of files |
| [20:25:00] | dennis_p: | indeed xmltv not installed, mhm I guess I must do that first then |
| [20:25:00] | marc_in_lux: | good |
| [20:25:00] | marc_in_lux: | evening. |
| [20:26:00] | marc_in_lux: | been trying to install myth from subversion |
| [20:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | it compiles nicely, and i can get into mythtv-setup . I can set up video cards, but on the videosource I have trouble. It runs mythfilldatabase, but doesn't enter the videosource into any table |
| [20:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | feedback on the command line is 'DB Error (simpledbstorage update): |
| [20:28:00] | marc_in_lux: | Query was: No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [20:28:00] | marc_in_lux: | what is it missing? |
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| [20:34:00] | StefanD: | hello. not really a mythtv question, but i know that you are probably much better at linux and things that i am. I'm trying to compile the 0.5.1 ivtv drivers, but i cant understand where to find the v4l2-common.h file. Anyone that could help me? |
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| [20:40:00] | kormoc: | StefanD, you need the kernel header's package for your distro |
| [20:41:00] | StefanD: | i have downloaded the kernel source, but cant find the file anywhere |
| [20:42:00] | kormoc: | should be in /path/to/the/kernel/source/include/media/v4l2-common.h |
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| [20:43:00] | StefanD: | yes it should. i'm running 2.6.12 and couldnt find it. so i tried to download the source for 2.6.14.3 to see if it was there, but nothing |
| [20:44:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [20:44:00] | kormoc: | you need a newer kernel version the .14 for ivtv 5.1 |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | 2.6.15-r4+ I beleive? |
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| [20:45:00] | kahuna_: | Alot of stuff in ivtv moved over to v4l |
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| [20:45:00] | StefanD: | oh, thought atleast that ivtv was developing against a stable kernel version |
| [20:46:00] | kormoc: | StefanD, stable ivtv is |
| [20:46:00] | kormoc: | StefanD, ivtv .4.x is the stable branch, .5.x is the dev branch |
| [20:46:00] | kahuna_: | ivtv scares me. They keep rewriting the code. |
| [20:46:00] | Chutt: | they're not rewriting anything |
| [20:46:00] | kormoc: | the code reorginazation is a good thing imho. |
| [20:47:00] | StefanD: | well i guess i'll have to wait a while then. But i'm having ivtv problems and i would try anything |
| [20:47:00] | kormoc: | StefanD, with .4.x? |
| [20:47:00] | kahuna_: | Chutt: Haven't you looked at the .5.x release compared to the .4.x? Complete overhaul |
| [20:47:00] | StefanD: | yes |
| [20:47:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, ooh? most of the work was removing the tuner and other assorted modules and back porting the changes to the v4l components. |
| [20:47:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [20:47:00] | StefanD: | every 25–30 seconds the sound stutters, and the picture makes a little jump |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | all they're doing is moving stuff from ivtv into the kernel. |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | it's not a 'complete overhaul' |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | no more duplicate modules |
| [20:48:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, the tuner module and others came from the kernel, and were only included to get them stable with the 150/500 and now it's getting back ported. |
| [20:48:00] | kahuna_: | Well I see that they have a different system for initializing the i2c components but that must just be because they moved the stuff to the kernel |
| [20:49:00] | sap: | hi guys, i'm trying to get my nova-t working with mythtv. the drivers seem to be installed ok since i can see tv external to mythtv using scan tzap and mplayer. |
| [20:49:00] | sap: | but i'm having trouble using mythtv-setup when scanning for channels |
| [20:50:00] | sap: | should it populate the dvb_channels table? |
| [20:50:00] | kahuna_: | I'm happy that my 150 works though :) Even though I had to change the code to force BTSC audio. |
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| [20:50:00] | StefanD: | does ivtv has some debug option so i could se if it has something to say when i get the stutter? |
| [20:51:00] | kormoc: | StefanD, modinfo ivtv will show you all the module options |
| [20:52:00] | StefanD: | yes, but how could modinfo help me to find out why i get the stutter? |
| [20:52:00] | kormoc: | it will tell you if there's a debug option for the module |
| [20:52:00] | StefanD: | aha |
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| [21:02:00] | sap: | after a scan the channel table gets populated ... do i need to do dvb_channels by hand? |
| [21:05:00] | dennis_p: | can one switch to the terminal window in GUI while mythtv is getting the list of channels in (k)ubuntu? |
| [21:07:00] | dennis_p: | It's been at 50% for 15 minutes, I know its converting to XML from HTML but maybe the HTML server is busy or something |
| [21:07:00] | laga: | dennis_p: alt+tab |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | and it's likely not busy converting but waiting for you input |
| [21:09:00] | dennis_p: | thanks didn't realise that would work, full screen mythtv brought me off center :-) |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | ahh the old alt-tab snafu |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | svn tells you to press alt-tab if I remember rightly |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [21:18:00] | rsdvd: | Hiya – does anyone know if the Hauppague WinTV-HVR900 USB capture device is supported in Linux yet? |
| [21:19:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: chances are, no |
| [21:20:00] | rsdvd: | :-( ebuyer have it on their main page |
| [21:20:00] | Juski: | ebuyer.. pah |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | there's a posting on the linux-dvb list though, so maybe it's not too far off |
| [21:22:00] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [21:22:00] | rsdvd: | as a small USB stick....it would be good for plugging into small form factor PCs .....don;t need an internal PCI |
| [21:23:00] | rsdvd: | I agree with you about ebuyer....but they are still one of the cheapest around |
| [21:23:00] | Juski: | I tend not to do mail order when they want daft p&p fees |
| [21:23:00] | Juski: | luckily I'm quite close to Scan & Microdirect |
| [21:24:00] | Juski: | neither of which have had any PVR150 stock for a while now |
| [21:24:00] | rsdvd: | I wish I were......I would have saved a fortune |
| [21:24:00] | rsdvd: | bite the bullet and buy from ebuyer.....they have them in stock (i think) |
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| [21:29:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [21:29:00] | Ediehow: | if i am using xv, should i use kernel algorithm or bob? |
| [21:29:00] | Ediehow: | for deinterlace |
| [21:30:00] | Ediehow: | i mean, what uses less resources. |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | kerneldeint gies you less trouble. bob can mess up the OSD |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | oh. less resources? dunno ;) |
| [21:31:00] | Ediehow: | is it me or do things go faster with bob? |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | check top |
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| [21:36:00] | jams: | bob can make you motion sick |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | I find bob works just fine for me.. the best test of any deinterlacer is a horizontal text crawl... looks as smooth as pure video on my EPIA ;) |
| [21:43:00] | Juski: | . |
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| [21:43:00] | kahuna_: | Bob is jerky on my system |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | bob is jumpy on my system |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | "use whatever works best" |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [21:44:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | is it possible to enter a pin for encrypted dvb-t broadcasts with mythtv 0.18? |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | bagpuss_thecat: if you're talking about TopUpTV, no |
| [21:45:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | bah |
| [21:45:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | I guess a cam is required |
| [21:45:00] | kahuna_: | don't you need card for encrypted broadcasts? |
| [21:45:00] | Juski: | RedHot, the crappy pr0n channel on the other hand.. all they do is hide the video & audio PIDs |
| [21:45:00] | kahuna_: | I get the best results with kernel deint. But I don't have xvmc like juski does either. |
| [21:46:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | Juski: been experimenting? :-p |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | no, bagpuss |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | there was a (cough) patch a while ago.. |
| [21:47:00] | ** bagpuss_thecat is't terribly sure how DVB-T works, but knows that Myth does a damn good job ** | |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | VERY grey legally though |
| [21:48:00] | kahuna_: | Myth sucks for dvb. At least 0.18 does. |
| [21:48:00] | kahuna_: | SVN works great for DVB recordings for me. |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | kahuna_: eh?! |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | I find it the other way around actually... |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | but like I keep seeing.. find me a user whose stuff is borked & I'll find you a user whose stuff 'just works' |
| [21:49:00] | kahuna_: | Channel change is around 10 seconds for me, so I just use VDR to channel surf and myth to record stuff. |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | Juski: it's more like a 1:4 ratio for me |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [21:49:00] | dennis_p: | ubuntu mythtv epg script tv_grab_nl ran great, now I need to run manual filldb but it says using config filename /home/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_nl.conf file does not exist |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | livetv is SO 20th century though |
| [21:49:00] | kahuna_: | hehe |
| [21:50:00] | kahuna_: | some people actually like to channel surf! |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | as for PiP... should have stayed in the 80s |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | joe sixpack? john doe? |
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| [21:50:00] | Juski: | if this diet & exercise go to plan... juski_sixpack |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | (not) |
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| [21:51:00] | dennis_p: | it suggest run me with --configure |
| [21:52:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | Juski: I find it takes about 2 to 4 seconds here |
| [21:52:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | but we tend to live off the stuff we've recorded anyway :-) |
| [21:53:00] | kahuna_: | bagpuss_thecat: do you have a full featured card? |
| [21:53:00] | dennis_p: | sudo mythfilldatabase --configure says illigal operation |
| [21:53:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | full-featured? it's a nova-t |
| [21:53:00] | bagpuss_thecat: | so, dunno fi that is or isn't |
| [21:53:00] | kahuna_: | I think the nova is a budget card. |
| [21:54:00] | kahuna_: | That's a pretty good channel change time. |
| [21:55:00] | dennis_p: | why is sudo mythfilldatabase --configure an illigal operation what should I do now? |
| [21:56:00] | kahuna_: | hehe. Dipper got caught with his pants down. What a tool |
| [21:56:00] | laga: | sudo "mythfilldatabase --configure" probably. there is no point in running mythfilldatabase as root, though |
| [21:56:00] | kahuna_: | whoops |
| [21:57:00] | kahuna_: | Sorry guys. that was meant for my query window. |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | 7msg Juski wanna cyber?! |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | oops, sorry. |
| [21:57:00] | kahuna_: | heh |
| [21:57:00] | Juski: | ? |
| [21:57:00] | sphing: | AHAHAHAH |
| [21:57:00] | kahuna_: | :) |
| [21:57:00] | sphing: | touche laga |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [21:58:00] | Juski: | laga: wtf was that about hmm? |
| [21:59:00] | laga: | Juski: don't act like you don't know. |
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| [21:59:00] | schorle: | hallo zusammen |
| [22:00:00] | dennis_p: | -- configure is no option :-) I don't know why it suggests that |
| [22:00:00] | dennis_p: | ubuntu mythtv epg script tv_grab_nl ran great, now I need to run manual filldb but it says using config filename /home/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_nl.conf file does not exist |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | dennis_p: --configure not — configure |
| [22:00:00] | ** Juski switches the big flashing red neon sign ** | |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | <off> |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | hehehe ;) |
| [22:03:00] | dennis_p: | yeah it does not have that option |
| [22:03:00] | dennis_p: | what should i do now |
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| [22:04:00] | dennis_p: | how can I get a .xmltv conf file ? |
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| [22:05:00] | dennis_p: | wait maybe I should run xmltv with --configure? |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | or run tv_grab_nl with --configure ;) |
| [22:07:00] | kahuna_: | I'm going to leave now and come back when I'm less embarassed. |
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| [22:12:00] | dennis_p: | no its not the tv_grab_nl script with --configure it just tries to read tv_grab_nl.conf and asks for me to confirm all channels again |
| [22:12:00] | dennis_p: | how can I abort, alreday did that |
| [22:14:00] | Juski: | ctrl C, unless it's already started overwriting the file |
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| [22:14:00] | dennis_p: | nice new word 'alreday' |
| [22:15:00] | Juski: | whoah.. *how* long did mounting my nfs share just take? |
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| [22:17:00] | dennis_p: | oh yes afraid to abort it did create a .conf file. I guess with all the channels again :-) |
| [22:18:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, run all those commands as the mythtv user. (su mythtv) |
| [22:18:00] | _willcooke_: | bit late now, I expect |
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| [22:19:00] | dennis_p: | I run them as mythtv with administartion priviledges in kubuntu account mythtv |
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| [22:22:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, The one thing I found most useful when installing myth was su'ing to mythtv, and do the entire setup and everthing else from there, plus asking Juski a LOT of questions |
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| [22:23:00] | dennis_p: | It now syas new channel found name is Nederland 1 choose ID and then name string. can I press enter on empty name string as the name found is good already or do I need to type it again? |
| [22:23:00] | Juski: | right I'm outta here.. talk to y'all later |
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| [22:26:00] | chris86wm: | hey guys i am considering setting up knoppmyth on my 733mhz celeron computer with 192mb of ram. are my specs too low to run mythtv? |
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| [22:26:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [22:26:00] | _willcooke_: | should be a-ok. What sort of video grabber? |
| [22:26:00] | chris86wm: | u mean the card? |
| [22:26:00] | jono: | heya _willcooke_ |
| [22:26:00] | _willcooke_: | Jono! Dude, I can watch TV! |
| [22:26:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, awesome :) |
| [22:26:00] | _willcooke_: | chris86wm, yeah |
| [22:27:00] | chris86wm: | ati tv wonder |
| [22:27:00] | chris86wm: | i heard all in wonders dont work but this one does? |
| [22:27:00] | dennis_p: | right and it wants a chanel number too what's the difference with channel ID and where do I input the frequecy or is it saying it found it like a philips VCR? |
| [22:27:00] | jono: | folks, quick question, when in the tv schedule, how do I view the currently selected programme? |
| [22:27:00] | _willcooke_: | chris86wm, Sorry, don't know. If it works, then you'll be laughing |
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| [22:28:00] | chris86wm: | so other than the card, everything seems alright to you? |
| [22:28:00] | jono: | anyone? |
| [22:28:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, I think the channel number is used purely for sorting them in to an order. (I think). If you're using dvb you dont need to set the freq. it should do it automatically. |
| [22:28:00] | jono: | is it possible to record a show and view it at the same time? |
| [22:29:00] | _willcooke_: | chris86wm, I'm using 2 x dvb cards on a 1.8 Celeron, and while watching tv it ticks over at about 2% |
| [22:29:00] | chris86wm: | nice |
| [22:29:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, I think you should be able to, I read something about that on the mailing list archives. |
| [22:29:00] | dennis_p: | no I use analog PAL 350 card |
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| [22:30:00] | dennis_p: | oh wait i have to set frequency later in mythtv i think |
| [22:30:00] | chris86wm: | will i be able to pick up the tv guide on satellite or is that only for cable users? |
| [22:30:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, I thought so, its a bit shit if you can't |
| [22:30:00] | jono: | anyone know if this is possible? |
| [22:31:00] | _willcooke_: | chris86wm, Where do you live? There are built in tv-guide downloading things for most countries |
| [22:31:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, My guess is you go to the "watch a video" section and select the program you are recording |
| [22:31:00] | chris86wm: | USA-louisiana |
| [22:31:00] | dennis_p: | I think tv guide gets collected via internet and matched to station nmae so if you can see it via cable or sat it knows when to record |
| [22:31:00] | dennis_p: | station name |
| [22:31:00] | _willcooke_: | I think the USA uses a thing called "direct tv", is that a real thing? |
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| [22:32:00] | chris86wm: | there is direct tv |
| [22:32:00] | chris86wm: | i have dishnetwork |
| [22:32:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, ahhh, that works :) |
| [22:32:00] | _willcooke_: | as I understand it, it just downloads the listings for everything and then you tell it which channels you are interested in |
| [22:33:00] | chris86wm: | alright thats cool |
| [22:33:00] | chris86wm: | thanks so much for your help |
| [22:33:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, I am the king of mythtv, after a mere 3 hours of use! BWAHAH! |
| [22:33:00] | _willcooke_: | chris86wm, Aint no thing. (Besides I dont know if any of that is true!) |
| [22:33:00] | chris86wm: | lol |
| [22:34:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, so is it all working? |
| [22:34:00] | dennis_p: | there could be complete configs for usa users but it just matches known channel name or frequency to internet distributed tv guide (which can be created based on the same epg you can receive) |
| [22:34:00] | ** jono just fixed a bug ** | |
| [22:35:00] | jono: | ahh cool, when you ask to record something it asks if you want to watch and record it :) |
| [22:35:00] | dhofstra_: | why would 'which qmake' issue nothing at the terminal, when 'echo $QTDIR' gives me the proper /usr/lib/qt3? |
| [22:35:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, well.... I /think/ so. I can now watch livetv, which I couldnt yesterday. |
| [22:36:00] | dhofstra_: | ok, also 'locate qmake' gives nothing.. I must have to install something |
| [22:36:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, can you record? |
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| [22:36:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, and the guide is almost there. I started off with only bbc1 so I could check it worked, so I've got to add all the other channels and assign xmltv id's |
| [22:36:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, haven't tested record yet, I'll do that now. |
| [22:36:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, which is what I did last night :) |
| [22:37:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, glad it works, pal :) |
| [22:37:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, we are so l33t |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, No, yesterday I had a full epg, but no live telly |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, G1V3 M3 WAREZ |
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| [22:39:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, w3 g0t mAd sk1llz |
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| [22:44:00] | _willcooke_: | http://tinyurl.com/cbval |
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| [22:46:00] | jono: | anyone here use the uk listings? |
| [22:48:00] | jono: | right off to bed |
| [22:49:00] | jono: | the myth box goes live tonight :P) |
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| [22:56:00] | ivor_: | jono: you're putting the mythbox live and you're going to be able to sleep?? blimey. |
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| [23:11:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, how you getting on? |
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| [23:23:00] | dennis_p: | ok so I mixed up channel ID and frequency |
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| [23:41:00] | dennis_p: | Yeah I've got one frequency set and tv and sound works, awesome |
| [23:42:00] | dennis_p: | let's see how to quit the backend? |
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| [23:54:00] | chris86wm: | hey guys i am setting up myth tv with my ati tv wonder card. i am at the screen where i pick which card type i have, but i dont know which one to pick. could someone help me? |
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