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| [00:05:00] | Krazylegz: | cout_: gcc can do some things differently. |
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| [00:09:00] | cout_: | ugh. I hate stripped binaries. |
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| [00:14:00] | mofu: | Krazylegz: ok, where? |
| [00:19:00] | Krazylegz: | mofu: You will have to check your settings in php.ini. |
| [00:19:00] | Krazylegz: | I have to go grocery shopping real quick. Be back in a bit. |
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| [00:20:00] | mofu: | ok, thanks |
| [00:20:00] | a1fa|64: | brb |
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| [00:23:00] | poop: | Well, my fruitless forays into the ceiling have answered at least one lingering question about my future as a carpenter. |
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| [00:33:00] | rjune: | poop: that you should become one? |
| [00:33:00] | poop: | For all mankind, we should hope not. |
| [00:34:00] | ** poop responds to contractor's e-mail with a desperate cry for help ** | |
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| [00:36:00] | rjune: | LOL |
| [00:38:00] | Netslayer: | i just installed latest SVN and my frontend can't playback anything |
| [00:39:00] | Netslayer: | the logs show: "(*) DirectFB/Core: Single Application Core. (2005-12–04 07:15) (!) Direct/Modules: Unable to dlopen `/usr/lib/directfb-0.9.22/systems/libdirectfb_sdl.so'!"" |
| [00:39:00] | Netslayer: | why am I using DirectFB is that normal? |
| [00:41:00] | Netslayer: | is there a setting to disable directfb or do i have to recompile without it? |
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| [01:00:00] | pearcec_com: | voodoo3 tv out? Where is a good resource? |
| [01:00:00] | kormoc: | google? |
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| [01:01:00] | pearcec_com: | duh like I haven't been there. |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | hrm. I doubt there's gonna be better resources then google. |
| [01:02:00] | ** kormoc shrugs. ** | |
| [01:03:00] | pearcec_com: | 2.6 ubuntu. Everything else works fine. I just don't have a clear understanding of how this is put together. Do I want use v4l? Well someone who has don't it before and didn't document it would be a better resource then google. |
| [01:03:00] | kormoc: | most people in here use nvidia or ati cards, a handful use onboard video. |
| [01:04:00] | kormoc: | basically, the deal is from my google, you need drm/dri support for the card in your kernel |
| [01:04:00] | pearcec_com: | Yea I will buy one if it comes to that. |
| [01:04:00] | Krazylegz: | mofu: I'm back. |
| [01:04:00] | pearcec_com: | I think I have everything loaded: |
| [01:04:00] | pearcec_com: | (II) Module v4l: vendor="X.Org Foundation" |
| [01:05:00] | pearcec_com: | (II) Module tdfx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | v4l is for your video capture card |
| [01:05:00] | pearcec_com: | ah. |
| [01:05:00] | pearcec_com: | that helps thanks. |
| [01:05:00] | pearcec_com: | (No really, it was so easy to set most of this up I don't really know how it is all put together) |
| [01:05:00] | pearcec_com: | I assume the tdfx drivers have options for CRT out right? |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | seems like you also need i2c-voodoo3 sensor support in your kernel |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | man tdfx |
| [01:06:00] | pearcec_com: | pearcec@yoink:~$ lsmod | grep voodoo |
| [01:06:00] | pearcec_com: | i2c_voodoo3 4356 0 |
| [01:06:00] | pearcec_com: | i2c_algo_bit 9416 2 i2c_voodoo3,ivtv |
| [01:06:00] | pearcec_com: | Yea I set that up too. Reading... |
| [01:06:00] | pearcec_com: | I am just trying to get a sense for how this is put together. most of the stuff I read is just intructional for cards/distro. |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | you also need module bt869 |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | modinfo bt869 will list the kernel optiosn for the module, you'll need to pass them when you load the module |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | and you'll need to setup mode lines in your xorg conf |
| [01:08:00] | pearcec_com: | what is that foor? The tdfx man page is limited. Are the options for CRT X.org generic? Or driver specific? |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | those are the options for that driver |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | tdfx is a very limited driver |
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| [01:08:00] | pearcec_com: | Does 3dfx still produce a driver? |
| [01:08:00] | pearcec_com: | I don't have a bt869. Looking. |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | 3dfx doesn't exist as a company, and hasn't for many years |
| [01:09:00] | pearcec_com: | hmm... who bought them? |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | nvidia did in 2000 |
| [01:09:00] | pearcec_com: | wow, my head has been in the sand. |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | and all their products got killed back then |
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| [01:10:00] | pearcec_com: | amazing. |
| [01:10:00] | pearcec_com: | I remember something about that now. |
| [01:11:00] | pearcec_com: | kormoc: thanks I will chew on searching b5869 for a bit. |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | http://www.guru-group.fi/~too/tvout-voodoo3-3000-xfree |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | there's the link for the guide about how to do it |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | first hit on google, step by step on how he got it working. |
| [01:12:00] | mofu: | Krazylegz: got it sorted I think . . . . |
| [01:12:00] | mofu: | thanks |
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| [01:13:00] | Krazylegz: | mofu: Cool. |
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| [01:15:00] | Topslakr: | I've installed mythtv and setup the software. The only problem is mythtvbackend doens't seem to be setting my path corectly. I edited the /etc/mythbackend file to point to my mythtv software but MYTHTV_HOME still isn't getting set. I belive that is what it causing mythfrontend to not fine GANT |
| [01:15:00] | Topslakr: | any thoughts? |
| [01:15:00] | kormoc: | in gentoo? |
| [01:16:00] | ** Topslakr is on mandriva ** | |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | MYTHTV_HOME is actually just where it searches for config files, my MYTHTV_HOME is set to /etc/mythtv |
| [01:16:00] | Topslakr: | hmm |
| [01:16:00] | Topslakr: | ok. So it's not supposed to be where the software is.. let me edit that then |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | at least, on gentoo that's how it is |
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| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | is gnat in the same location as the default theme? |
| [01:17:00] | Topslakr: | still can't find gant. I know the theme is installed. I can see it in the /usr/share/mythtv/themes folder |
| [01:17:00] | Topslakr: | gant is the default i think |
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| [01:18:00] | Topslakr: | it's with all the other themes that seem to be installed |
| [01:18:00] | kormoc: | I didn't think so, but maybe. |
| [01:18:00] | kormoc: | maybe it's a permission issue? |
| [01:18:00] | Topslakr: | well, it is on my system I think. I've not been able to get to a place to change it. Even the mythtv-setup trys to use it and fails |
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| [01:19:00] | Topslakr: | perms... could be. but I'm not sure how it could have been confused. Maybe I'll just try to reinstall it |
| [01:19:00] | kormoc: | can you pastebin the startup messages? |
| [01:19:00] | pembo13: | can anyone tell me if mythtv can record one channel while i watch another? |
| [01:19:00] | kormoc: | pembo13, if you have more then one input or if you're watching a recorded tv show, it can |
| [01:20:00] | pembo13: | kormoc, thank you |
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| [01:23:00] | Topslakr: | http://pastebin.com/449056 |
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| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | did you compile it yourself? |
| [01:23:00] | Topslakr: | no |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | kk |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | that's really odd |
| [01:24:00] | Topslakr: | yeah. I installed it fine on a test machine first. Then setup the server (It's both LTSP and mythtv). Worked great on the test machine |
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| [01:27:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [01:28:00] | Ediehow: | i can't figure out why decoding in myth sucks up so much resources |
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| [01:30:00] | poop: | Edie: You might not want to use libmpeg |
| [01:30:00] | Ediehow: | ? |
| [01:30:00] | Ediehow: | i am using ivtv for my card for encoding, it's just decoding that uses too much |
| [01:31:00] | Ediehow: | rpmq libmpeg |
| [01:31:00] | Ediehow: | libmpeg2convert0–0.4.0b-1.rhfc4.at |
| [01:31:00] | Ediehow: | libmpeg2_0–0.4.0b-1.rhfc4.at |
| [01:32:00] | poop: | Ediehow: It's a preference in mythfrontend |
| [01:32:00] | Ediehow: | err, what would it use instead? |
| [01:32:00] | poop: | The built-in decoder (ffmpeg) |
| [01:32:00] | Ediehow: | and that uses less resources? |
| [01:32:00] | Ediehow: | is that just for decoding? |
| [01:32:00] | poop: | depends on your setup |
| [01:33:00] | Ediehow: | i have pvr-150mce |
| [01:37:00] | Ediehow: | poop? |
| [01:38:00] | poop: | what |
| [01:38:00] | Ediehow: | you said it depends on my setup |
| [01:38:00] | poop: | yeah, let us know how it works for you |
| [01:38:00] | Ediehow: | oh i thought you meant you could give me an idea from what i told you i have |
| [01:39:00] | poop: | I don't want to rob you of the joy of self-discovery. |
| [01:40:00] | Ediehow: | trying to find where you set ffmpeg |
| [01:40:00] | poop: | No, I said not to use libmpeg |
| [01:40:00] | Ediehow: | oh, it doesn't have it checked |
| [01:40:00] | poop: | check it! |
| [01:40:00] | Ediehow: | the option is "use libmpeg2 for decoding" |
| [01:40:00] | Ediehow: | it is not checked |
| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | the pvr doesn't matter at all in output performance. |
| [01:41:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: yeah, i didn't think so |
| [01:41:00] | Ediehow: | i have a radeon 9600. is there any way to get xvmc support for that? |
| [01:42:00] | cesman: | not that I'm aware of |
| [01:42:00] | Ediehow: | ok, so, it is not checked to use libmpeg2 |
| [01:43:00] | Ediehow: | i just have problems with video when i start multitasking |
| [01:43:00] | poop: | Ediehow: How much cpu is mythtv using with each? |
| [01:44:00] | poop: | For me it's ~100% with libmpeg2, ~40% w/o |
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| [01:44:00] | Ediehow: | ok, how do i test that real quick? |
| [01:44:00] | poop: | toggle, playback & run top, repeat & rinse |
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| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, what's your videocard? |
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| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | I get ~10% cpu usage with xvmc enabled. |
| [01:46:00] | poop: | 08:41PM|<Ediehow> i have a radeon 9600. is there any way to get xvmc support for that? |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | ahh, oops, missed that |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | anyway, yeah, there's no way to get xvmc for that (yet) |
| [01:47:00] | Ediehow: | :( |
| [01:47:00] | poop: | thanks, ATI! |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | well, in all fairness |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | nVidia is the ones who made xvmc |
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| [01:47:00] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [01:47:00] | poop: | unichrome seems to do it |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | ATI didn't really have any warning to it poping out into the world. |
| [01:48:00] | poonj: | for lirc in myth |
| [01:48:00] | poonj: | do I need to make some type of configuration file? |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but that's an open source driver who got it implimented by free type hackers. |
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| [01:48:00] | Ediehow: | kormoc: so is there any way to get hardware decoding for me? |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | Ediehow, not preticullarly. |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | ATI under linux is the suxors |
| [01:49:00] | poop: | XvMC screws up the OSD nicely though, ah well. |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | poop, ooh? I don't notice any issues |
| [01:49:00] | poop: | kormoc: HD |
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| [01:49:00] | poop: | DIEZ, OSS |
| [01:50:00] | kormoc: | poop, ahh, well, that's a bit harder to deal with :P |
| [01:50:00] | poonj: | hey |
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| [01:51:00] | poonj: | so do I need lircrc in my own directory? |
| [01:51:00] | sgentry6: | when i install mysql is it supposed to add a mysqladmin group? or am i supposed to do that by hand |
| [01:51:00] | poop: | sgentry6: #mysql might be better suited to such a question |
| [01:51:00] | kormoc: | poonj, might wanna google it |
| [01:52:00] | poop: | You know where you are? |
| [01:52:00] | poop: | You're in the jungle, baby |
| [01:52:00] | kormoc: | you're gonna die |
| [01:52:00] | poop: | It's retro-night in pooptunes. |
| [01:53:00] | djperegrine: | :O |
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| [01:56:00] | cesman: | lircrc should be in ~/.mythtv/ |
| [01:56:00] | jd86: | bboh man i forgot how to do this lirc thing :( |
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| [01:57:00] | jd86: | i haven't done it with this thing in ages |
| [01:57:00] | jd86: | i wonder if the other thing ihave that came with nvidia personal cinema works its usb |
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| [01:58:00] | awb4422: | not sure if you guys know, but the search function in the wiki is not working right now |
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| [01:58:00] | SuPerher0: | hello people, im a bit of a newb when it comes to mythtv, but here is my question when i click on "watch tv" it displays video from composite0 instead of tuner0. Im using knoppmyth(latest) pvr 350 card and cabletv in on tuner0. |
| [01:59:00] | SuPerher0: | is there a way to change inputs from tv mode? |
| [01:59:00] | cesman: | Press 'c' |
| [02:00:00] | Krazylegz: | SuPerher0: Yes, in mythtv-setup, or what cesman said. |
| [02:00:00] | SuPerher0: | ok let me try it |
| [02:00:00] | awb4422: | If my cable box doesnt have a firewire port for capturing hd...do you guys suggest an hd3000 or an air2pc? |
| [02:00:00] | cesman: | SuPerher0: http://ip.of.backend/mythtv-doc/keys.txt |
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| [02:01:00] | cesman: | awb4422: there are about equal in my book... |
| [02:01:00] | poop: | awb4422: If you're a 'merican, make them give you a new box with firewire. |
| [02:02:00] | awb4422: | yeah ive heard you can ask for one |
| [02:02:00] | poop: | Well, mythtv kind of sucks at driving the STB over firewire, but I wouldn't want to pay for extra hardware. |
| [02:02:00] | awb4422: | but id rather to it OTA so i dont have to have my computer sitting next to the tv |
| [02:03:00] | awb4422: | are there any known gotchas with going for either card? most of the info on the mailing list is from may-july timeframe |
| [02:03:00] | poop: | My HTPC case will arrive on Tuesday. I'm pretty excited. |
| [02:03:00] | poop: | I hope it's not god-awful loud. |
| [02:04:00] | poop: | woops |
| [02:05:00] | phoner: | hm, I keep having problems with mythtv not recording schedualed recordings while watching live tv |
| [02:06:00] | phoner: | like I was watching a program, which was also to be recorded, but it didn't start recording it |
| [02:06:00] | awb4422: | i think im going to buy the air2pc |
| [02:06:00] | phoner: | or if it has to change the channel it will crash |
| [02:07:00] | SuPerher0: | cesman: thx i didnt know that doc was there. Anyway after i changed a setting i didnt restart the backend and it was defaulting to the composite. Thanks :P |
| [02:07:00] | SuPerher0: | how do you manually restart teh back/frontend |
| [02:07:00] | jd86: | anyone know of where i can find a doc that'll show me how to use the nvidia/ati rf remote? |
| [02:07:00] | jd86: | with lirc |
| [02:10:00] | cesman: | SuPerher0: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart or <alt><3> |
| [02:10:00] | cesman: | jd86: do you mean how to use or how to configure? |
| [02:11:00] | cesman: | SuPerher0: you should stop the backend before rerunning mythtv-setup (<alt><s>) |
| [02:12:00] | cesman: | on KnoppMyth, <alt><1> will start the backend, <alt><2> will stop it |
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| [02:15:00] | SuPerher0: | thanks alot cesman |
| [02:16:00] | cesman: | you're welcome |
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| [02:22:00] | SuPerher0: | eh, well thats the closest ive gotten it to work sofar. Its displaying snow :), then when i hit <m> and select program guide it kicks me back to the windowmaker desktop? i dunno what the problem is. |
| [02:22:00] | SuPerher0: | i guess the frontend craches |
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| [02:25:00] | cout_: | I had to recompile to keep it from crashing. dunno if it's the version of mythtv that comes with knoppmyth or if it's that the pentium-optimized binaries don't run well on ezra c3 |
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| [02:25:00] | cesman: | windowmaker?! KnoppMyth includes Fluxbox not WM. |
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| [02:26:00] | SuPerher0: | oh im sorry |
| [02:26:00] | SuPerher0: | i dont know anything about linux, ive tryed off and on for a year to get it to work |
| [02:27:00] | cesman: | cout_: i586 binaries are included w/ KnoppMyth. |
| [02:27:00] | cesman: | this is the default |
| [02:28:00] | cout_: | cesman: i586 == pentium |
| [02:29:00] | SuPerher0: | but here lately i really want it. cesman i just did a base install of knoppmyth R5A26 and got this far, should i do as the wiki said to do for the pvr350 or is there somehting else i need to do? |
| [02:29:00] | SuPerher0: | i just want to watch it on my computer monitor for now |
| [02:32:00] | cesman: | I know a pentium is a i586 |
| [02:32:00] | mofu: | anyone know how to control cgi access (.htaccess)??? |
| [02:32:00] | cesman: | mythtv was compiled with march=i586 (arch=i586) and not pentium |
| [02:32:00] | cout_: | and not c3 either |
| [02:32:00] | mofu: | 586 is Pentium . . . . |
| [02:33:00] | cout_: | which is why I recompiled for c3 |
| [02:33:00] | mofu: | 386, 485, 586 . . . . . |
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| [02:33:00] | mofu: | I think most gcc optimization assume floating point though . . . |
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| [02:38:00] | jd86: | cesman: how to configure it |
| [02:39:00] | cesman: | assuming you're compiling from source, select ATi |
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| [02:39:00] | cesman: | then all you need is a lircd.conf and lircrc |
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| [02:48:00] | Netslayer: | mythmusic svn 8116 fails to build: http://pastebin.com/449140 |
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| [02:58:00] | Netslayer: | nm.. it compiled now odd |
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| [03:32:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | how is myth on directfb? is it pretty good? i've got an nvidia 5500 |
| [03:36:00] | Netslayer: | what is directfb anyway |
| [03:37:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | its a layer to use the framebuffer easily |
| [03:37:00] | Netslayer: | without x? |
| [03:37:00] | Servo888: | Anybody know how to speed up channel changing in mythtv? And does it have to record during playback constantly? I mean I understand if I hit pause it would record, but why is it recording doing normal playback? |
| [03:37:00] | Netslayer: | Servo888, the latest svn is a lot faster |
| [03:38:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | Netslayer: exactly |
| [03:38:00] | Netslayer: | Ginsu_Squirrel, how well does that work? |
| [03:38:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i hear all this good(bad) stuff about the SVN... how is that coming? useable? |
| [03:38:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | Netslayer: depends on what kind of card you ahve... but quite good |
| [03:38:00] | Netslayer: | i have all nvidia's |
| [03:39:00] | Netslayer: | Ginsu_Squirrel, i just udated from 18.1 official to svn, looks good so far |
| [03:39:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i have one too... i may experiment with it... depending on what kind of requirements my dad has... |
| [03:39:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | if my dad wants a desktop with icons and stuff, no framebuffer, but i cant imagine him needing a desktop |
| [03:39:00] | Netslayer: | does anyone have a directfb guide |
| [03:40:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | the gentoo wiki has a half written one |
| [03:40:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | lol |
| [03:40:00] | Netslayer: | i have many dedicated myth boxes around here that could use the lack of x |
| [03:40:00] | Netslayer: | i've never heard about this forum before and it looks pretty popular heh mythtvtalk.com |
| [03:41:00] | SuPerher0: | Guys i have 2 question if you wouldnt mind helping me out. 1) i hooked up my camcorder via svideo and during playback there was a little garbage at the bottom of the screen. How can i fix this? 2) when i select tuner0 all i get is snow, no channels or anything. Im using a pvr350/knoppmyth – Thanks |
| [03:42:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | Netslayer: but isn't that xmvc thing pretty good? that woudlnt work in directfb |
| [03:42:00] | Netslayer: | is that picture controls.. what is xmvc again |
| [03:42:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | some fancy thing related to mpeg and good output |
| [03:43:00] | Netslayer: | pvr350 mpeg2 out? |
| [03:43:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | Using DirectFB will use a lot more CPU than any hardware accelerated desktop configuration under X. |
| [03:43:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | which is true... |
| [03:43:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | Netslayer: its a video card thing |
| [03:43:00] | Netslayer: | auh |
| [03:43:00] | Netslayer: | not worth my time |
| [03:43:00] | Netslayer: | x starts up in like 4 seconds anyway |
| [03:44:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | intersting post about not using a window manager |
| [03:47:00] | Netslayer: | SuPerher0, 1. there are settings in tv -> playback i believe where you can set playback cropping to eliminate that |
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| [03:47:00] | Netslayer: | SuPerher0, 2. i have no idea how the tuner works, .. might have to adjust it? |
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| [03:49:00] | SuPerher0: | er ok, ill give #1 a shot but i dont know where to go with #2 |
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| [03:57:00] | _nero_: | humm.. I wish mythmusic could stream to all frontends in the house.. (ex- have the same music playing from several frontends) |
| [03:59:00] | Netslayer: | mfd |
| [03:59:00] | NightBird: | whats the setup for mythtv... I need to grab my zap2it info.. |
| [03:59:00] | Netslayer: | thor's been working on it for years |
| [04:00:00] | Netslayer: | _nero_, check it out |
| [04:00:00] | _nero_: | Netslayer, I have mfd.. |
| [04:00:00] | _nero_: | running svn right now.. is it an easy to enable option? |
| [04:00:00] | Netslayer: | i've never used it..only heard about it |
| [04:00:00] | Netslayer: | that'd be sick here.. i should try it out one day |
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| [04:11:00] | simcop2387: | i'll be testing mythtv in 64bit later tonight! |
| [04:12:00] | simcop2387: | once i finish getting qt and other libs installed |
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| [04:15:00] | SuPerher0: | is there any reason the prgram guide is kicking me back to desktop? |
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| [04:15:00] | simcop2387: | SuPerher0: its segfaulting probably |
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| [04:18:00] | SuPerher0: | what does that mean? |
| [04:19:00] | simcop2387: | its crashing |
| [04:19:00] | _nero_: | SuPerher0, try running your frontend from a terminal window, and see what comes up when it dumps you out of the frontend. |
| [04:20:00] | SuPerher0: | im sorry to ask, but how do i do that? |
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| [04:20:00] | _nero_: | run xterm, gnome-terminal, or your favorite terminal program.. |
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| [04:20:00] | _nero_: | type "mythfrontend" in said terminal window. |
| [04:21:00] | _nero_: | open the program guide, and if it crashes, there should be a message in the terminal window that you ran it from. |
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| [04:25:00] | SuPerher0: | ok i have some |
| [04:26:00] | _nero_: | pastebin it. |
| [04:26:00] | _nero_: | www.pastebin.ca or www.pastebin.com |
| [04:26:00] | SuPerher0: | couldnt find xv support falling back to non-Xv mode |
| [04:26:00] | SuPerher0: | ah |
| [04:26:00] | SuPerher0: | Xv Badport 152 |
| [04:27:00] | SuPerher0: | Couldnt get the color key |
| [04:27:00] | SuPerher0: | No channels defined in the database |
| [04:27:00] | SuPerher0: | This Isnt Going to Work!!! |
| [04:27:00] | SuPerher0: | LoL, i like that last one |
| [04:28:00] | SuPerher0: | do you need to look at the console txt file, or can this work? |
| [04:28:00] | _nero_: | it sounds like you haven't run mythtv-setup, or mythfilldatabase. |
| [04:29:00] | _nero_: | as for the XV bit, I am not sure. :/ |
| [04:29:00] | SuPerher0: | hmm, ive done both of those |
| [04:30:00] | _nero_: | did mythfilldatabase seem to fill your channels? |
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| [04:32:00] | simcop2387: | testing |
| [04:33:00] | SuPerher0: | how do you prot it to a txt file _nero_ |
| [04:33:00] | SuPerher0: | something like mythfrontend | console.txt |
| [04:33:00] | _nero_: | SuPerher0, the output?? Just paste it to pastebin.com or pastebin.ca |
| [04:33:00] | _nero_: | and then post the link.. |
| [04:34:00] | SuPerher0: | im trying to capture the output |
| [04:34:00] | SuPerher0: | im newb to linux |
| [04:34:00] | _nero_: | you can do mythfrontend > console.txt |
| [04:34:00] | SuPerher0: | ok |
| [04:39:00] | Netslayer: | i have a remote slave backend recording mpeg2 (pvr250) -> my master backend -> playback at frontend. My frontend is stuttering and top shows 50% wa.. why is it doing this? |
| [04:39:00] | Netslayer: | 2005-12–04 20:39:18.526 NVP: prebuffering pause |
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| [04:41:00] | poop: | Netslayer: Could be network-related, how does the cpu usage look on the front-end? |
| [04:41:00] | Netslayer: | it's maxed out but because of the wa. it can playback mpeg4 fine..it looks like it's only this mpeg2 live recording |
| [04:41:00] | Netslayer: | i'm guessing it's trying to buffer or seek it .. i don't understand |
| [04:41:00] | Netslayer: | Cpu(s): 51.7% us, 2.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 44.0% wa, 1.0% hi, 1.0% si |
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| [04:47:00] | poop: | Netslayer: mpeg2 is large, so you'll need 100mbit |
| [04:47:00] | Netslayer: | everything is wired at 100, no problems |
| [04:48:00] | poop: | Works fine locally, eh? |
| [04:48:00] | Netslayer: | well i'm assuming when it's finished recording (not live) it will be fine |
| [04:48:00] | poop: | too many variables |
| [04:48:00] | Netslayer: | this could be a bug... i just went to svn |
| [04:49:00] | ** rjune is away: sleeping away my sorrows, or something ** | |
| [04:55:00] | SuPerher0: | _nero_: here it is http://pastebin.com/449210 |
| [04:56:00] | _nero_: | SuPerher0, what distro and video card are you running? |
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| [04:57:00] | simcop2387: | anyone know a good/little dependancy mpeg2 player? i'd love it to be able to do aalib or libcaca if possible |
| [04:57:00] | SuPerher0: | R5A26(knoppmyth) and a onboard intell graphics |
| [04:58:00] | _nero_: | humm.. I'm guessing your onboard intel does not support v4l then? |
| [04:59:00] | simcop2387: | why would the onboard intel need to support v4l? |
| [04:59:00] | _nero_: | simcop2387, maybe it does.. though I would think knoppmyth would by default have v4l enabled in X?? |
| [04:59:00] | simcop2387: | _nero_: X has nothing to do with v4l |
| [04:59:00] | simcop2387: | v4l is video INPUT |
| [04:59:00] | SuPerher0: | http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d915gav/ theres the board i have but i cant find the graohic chipset |
| [05:00:00] | simcop2387: | (though in somecases, output) |
| [05:00:00] | simcop2387: | ryan:$1$2ORPo2.1$mMchS9Ra2JbFZLsA2MlRh/:12736:0:99999:7::: |
| [05:00:00] | simcop2387: | whoops |
| [05:00:00] | simcop2387: | dang gpm |
| [05:01:00] | _nero_: | v4l is video overlay, no? (thought that was required for Xv support?) |
| [05:01:00] | simcop2387: | no, v4l is the input from the card, Xv does all that |
| [05:02:00] | simcop2387: | SuPerher0: to me it looks like knoppmyth isn't getting the X server to use accelerated (and possibly even highcolor) graphics, mythfrontend AFAIK doesn't like that situation |
| [05:03:00] | _nero_: | my bad.. getting a bit mixed up.. |
| [05:03:00] | SuPerher0: | damn thats a bummer, this board is pci express, and i havent got a pci vid card |
| [05:04:00] | _nero_: | (Though I could have sworn I had to have the v4l module loaded in order for Xv to work) |
| [05:04:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | v4l has nothing to d owith xv |
| [05:04:00] | SuPerher0: | so im screwed on this mobo i guess |
| [05:05:00] | SuPerher0: | ah shi* |
| [05:05:00] | simcop2387: | SuPerher0: with knoppmyth possibly, until it supports pci-express, a real distro would probably be able to do it |
| [05:05:00] | SuPerher0: | i told you guys wrong |
| [05:05:00] | SuPerher0: | opps |
| [05:05:00] | SuPerher0: | worng pc |
| [05:05:00] | simcop2387: | ? |
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| [05:06:00] | SuPerher0: | wrong pc :( sorry about that |
| [05:06:00] | SuPerher0: | this pc is using a rage 128 card |
| [05:06:00] | SuPerher0: | i think thats the culprit |
| [05:06:00] | SuPerher0: | ati rage 128 pro |
| [05:06:00] | simcop2387: | i had one of those years ago! |
| [05:07:00] | _nero_: | Ahhh here it is.. in order to get a tv turner input to use Xv, you must load v4l.. |
| [05:07:00] | simcop2387: | it wasn't bad, should be able to get Xv support somehow |
| [05:07:00] | _nero_: | thats where I was mixing myself up.. |
| [05:07:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | _nero_: in order to make a tuner work, you must load v4l |
| [05:07:00] | SuPerher0: | so you think thats it? should i put another card in? |
| [05:07:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | again, it has nothing to do with xv |
| [05:07:00] | simcop2387: | _nero_: the tuner input doesn't use Xv the app does, the tuner uses v4l |
| [05:07:00] | _nero_: | yeah.. thats what I just said.. ;) |
| [05:08:00] | _nero_: | shrug.. |
| [05:08:00] | SuPerher0: | well i have a radeon 9000 128mb card woould that work? |
| [05:08:00] | SuPerher0: | ossibly |
| [05:09:00] | simcop2387: | probably, if knoppmyth has ati drivers on it, dunno if it does though never used it |
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| [05:11:00] | SuPerher0: | its booting up now, where about to find out |
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| [05:11:00] | shunter: | anyone using ivtv 0.5.1? |
| [05:15:00] | SuPerher0: | nope, it was better though. It pulled up listing and some channels worked, but really fuzzy. It still crashed when i pulled up the program guide. I will keep trying video cards tommorrow. Thanks for your help guys its my bedtime :P |
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| [05:30:00] | Ellegon: | hey quick question, I updated my SVN install last week and transcode and comflag stopped working.. |
| [05:30:00] | Ellegon: | commflag is giving the this error |
| [05:30:00] | Ellegon: | 2005-12–04 20:00:18.546 commflag: Commercial Flagging Starting |
| [05:30:00] | Ellegon: | illegal option: '2685' (use --help) |
| [05:30:00] | Ellegon: | 2005-12–04 20:00:18.732 commflag: Commercial Flagging Finished |
| [05:31:00] | Ellegon: | any ideas? |
| [05:31:00] | kormoc: | sounds like it's broken |
| [05:31:00] | Ellegon: | thanks :) |
| [05:31:00] | kormoc: | might want to check the bugs and see if it's known or not |
| [05:31:00] | kormoc: | if not, post a ticket bout it. |
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| [05:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Ellegon: you have 2 copies of mythcommflag and mythtranscode installed, you probably didn't remove the originals (by uninstalling the Myth* packages) before upgrading to svn. |
| [05:40:00] | bronson: | I know I saw a 12V ~100W power supply being sold by one of the MythTV contributors. |
| [05:41:00] | bronson: | It was around $45... I can't find it now. Anyone seen this? |
| [05:41:00] | Ellegon: | Captain_Murdoch: thanks I will give that a look |
| [05:42:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | sounds like you have an old version that doesn't understand the -V option. |
| [05:45:00] | Chutt: | heh |
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| [05:48:00] | pembo13: | hello, what eactly do i have to do to setup the video sources portion of mythtv-setup? |
| [05:48:00] | pembo13: | more precisely how do i get a datadirect account |
| [05:48:00] | pembo13: | ? |
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| [05:50:00] | pembo13: | hello, what eactly do i have to do to setup the video sources portion of mythtv-setup? |
| [05:50:00] | pembo13: | more precisely how do i get a datadirect account? |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | you _just_ asked that. |
| [05:51:00] | pembo13: | sorry, got disconnected somehow, wasn't sure if my message had gone through |
| [05:52:00] | Ellegon: | pembo13: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 |
| [05:53:00] | pembo13: | hmm, thank you, i seemed to have skipped that section |
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| [06:08:00] | bobnvic: | running the latest svn with the new prebuffer status code, I've seen a lines like the following: |
| [06:08:00] | bobnvic: | 2005-12–04 23:36:02.402 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame B. Dropping. UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL |
| [06:08:00] | bobnvic: | daniel stated in the commit message that U's were usually associated with XVMC, however I'm using xv, can anyone tell me what this may imply? |
| [06:17:00] | pembo13: | how long should i expect the mythfilldatabase command to take? |
| [06:20:00] | Ellegon: | depends on your connection |
| [06:20:00] | pembo13: | ok, i was starting to wonder, but it's finished now |
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| [06:28:00] | t00m: | who believes that: theDude ~ # sensors|grep ALARM |
| [06:29:00] | t00m: | SYS Temp: +61.8 C (high = +45 C, hyst = +40 C) ALARM |
| [06:29:00] | t00m: | CPU Temp: +146.2 C (high = +60 C, hyst = +55 C) ALARM |
| [06:29:00] | Netslayer: | t00m, i don't |
| [06:29:00] | t00m: | me neither :) |
| [06:30:00] | t00m: | there is also: +2.5V: +0.30 V (min = +2.37 V, max = +2.62 V) ALARM |
| [06:30:00] | t00m: | stupid sensors |
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| [06:43:00] | pembo13: | is sending my mythtv recordings to a vfat partion a bad idea? |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | I would think so, aye |
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| [06:44:00] | pembo13: | any good fs that i can use for mythtv and windows can read (if i need to do so) ? |
| [06:45:00] | Netslayer: | pembo13, fat has a file size restriction |
| [06:45:00] | Ethics: | pembro fat32s about as good as you get in that box |
| [06:45:00] | Netslayer: | 2GB i believe... so that's a really bad thing |
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| [06:45:00] | Ethics: | fat32 is 2 terabytes |
| [06:45:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | pembo13: there is a ext2 driver for windows |
| [06:46:00] | pembo13: | darn, if i would rather loose windows readabilty completely |
| [06:46:00] | kormoc: | Ethics, per file or per filesystem? |
| [06:46:00] | pembo13: | ok thanks, will have to consider adding a parting |
| [06:46:00] | Netslayer: | Ethics, why is it that my ipod won't read videos larger than 2gb then? |
| [06:46:00] | kormoc: | I use ext3 for all my linux boxes |
| [06:46:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | fat32 file limits are 2gb |
| [06:46:00] | Netslayer: | Ethics, i'm almost sure it's 2gb.. unless the vfat i'm using isn't 32 |
| [06:46:00] | dft: | w00t |
| [06:47:00] | Ethics: | kormoc FS but 2 gb per file but you can get around it just split the files....theres a script |
| [06:47:00] | ** dft has mythtv action on RH FC4 ** | |
| [06:47:00] | kormoc: | Ethics, but that's not friendly to programs like myth, which wouldn't understand that |
| [06:47:00] | dft: | kernel 1644 |
| [06:47:00] | laga: | there is a ext2 file system driver for windows, check freshmeat |
| [06:47:00] | Ethics: | use the ext3 as the buffer then split the file off to fat32 in background as a post record script |
| [06:47:00] | laga: | darn, Ginsu_Squirrel beat me to it |
| [06:48:00] | Ethics: | or use captive NTFS... |
| [06:48:00] | pembo13: | Ethics: well cool, that's how i have it currently |
| [06:50:00] | pembo13: | Netslayer, seems like the filesize limit is 4GB, http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentat . . . fil_tdrn.asp |
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| [06:51:00] | pembo13: | i am attempting to generate the icon xml file, but the perl script gives "Can't locate object method "status_line" via package "WWW::Mechanize" |
| [06:51:00] | Netslayer: | pembo13, it says 2GB |
| [06:52:00] | pembo13: | scroll down to the tables, unless i am mistaken |
| [06:52:00] | Netslayer: | at the top it says "FAT16 volumes larger than 2 GB are not accessible..." at the bottom "4GB minus 1 byte" for file size max |
| [06:53:00] | pembo13: | the 2GB was an OS limit for Fat16 |
| [06:53:00] | Netslayer: | i'm hitting it with my ipod |
| [06:53:00] | Netslayer: | i run podzilla linux on it |
| [06:53:00] | Netslayer: | anything larger than 2GB won't play |
| [06:53:00] | pembo13: | how are you hitting it? |
| [06:53:00] | pembo13: | interesting |
| [06:54:00] | pembo13: | out of curiousity, what single file do you have that size? |
| [06:54:00] | Netslayer: | i put the video player on there, so when i encode video files they have to be below 2GB |
| [06:54:00] | Netslayer: | actually i was supposed to add that to the wiki..ugg never did it |
| [06:55:00] | pembo13: | ok, any idea how i fix the perl issue above?? |
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| [07:04:00] | levander: | I'm looking at just using some big ATA33 disks for a mythtv box (with DMA enable of course), how much is this gonna slow down performance? |
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| [07:11:00] | kormoc: | levander, as opposed to? |
| [07:12:00] | levander: | as opposed to a more modern hard drive, like an ATA133 or a SATA hard drive |
| [07:12:00] | kormoc: | hrm, missed the lack of the 1 on the ata33 the first time, sorry |
| [07:13:00] | kormoc: | really, it would depend on the drive |
| [07:13:00] | kormoc: | you'd need to speed test it |
| [07:13:00] | levander: | kormoc: actually, they would be new drives that would be plenty fast, but it's an ATA33 controller |
| [07:13:00] | kormoc: | if it pulls say, 10 megs per sec, you should be fine |
| [07:13:00] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [07:13:00] | levander: | kormoc: i think the 33 is for 33 mb/s |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | sorta |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | it's the theoritical mex speed of the controler |
| [07:14:00] | levander: | kormoc: but i'll be reading and writing sometimes correct? so, is 10 mb/sec enough to read and write? |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | my ata 100 disks get very little compaired. |
| [07:14:00] | levander: | compared? |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | to the 100 |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | my one disk gets 3.29 MB/sec |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | 10 megs per sec should be plenty for reading and writing |
| [07:16:00] | levander: | kormoc: if it's not, i imagine i could do a raid array to speed it up fast enough? |
| [07:16:00] | pembo13: | how do i determine exactly what sound device i am using? |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | my other ata100 gets 25.13 MB/sec, my satas get 61.80 MB/sec |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | levander, in theory, but raid does add some overhead (cpu power to be percise) which can cause other issues |
| [07:17:00] | levander: | kormoc: i'm getting hardware encoding tuner cards, and a hardware decoding video out card |
| [07:17:00] | levander: | kormoc: i'm thinking cpu use will be minimal |
| [07:17:00] | levander: | kormoc: and it's a dual cpu box |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but thinks like commerical flagging and what not will eat cpu |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff |
| [07:17:00] | levander: | i didn't know myth had commercial flagging |
| [07:17:00] | levander: | how well does it work? |
| [07:18:00] | kormoc: | so so |
| [07:18:00] | kormoc: | mostly well |
| [07:18:00] | kormoc: | sometimes cuts things off tho |
| [07:18:00] | levander: | i'll probably just turn it off then, i'm used to fast forwarding through with tivo |
| [07:18:00] | levander: | i don't really mind |
| [07:19:00] | levander: | kormoc: isn't there some hdparm command that will let me benchmark my hard disk real quick? |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | hd -t /dev/hdx |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | erm |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | hdparm -t /dev/hdx |
| [07:21:00] | levander: | <kormoc> erm |
| [07:21:00] | levander: | <kormoc> hdparm -t /dev/hdx |
| [07:21:00] | levander: | ERC> all i got is this "Timing buffered disk reads: 72 MB in 3.07 seconds = 23.46 MB/sec" |
| [07:21:00] | levander: | hold on, i screwed up |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | that's the speed |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | you are getting 23 megs per second |
| [07:21:00] | levander: | kormoc: but it's that speed of a buffered read |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | that's the max speed the drive will put out |
| [07:21:00] | Ethics: | ok so i have one of these newer fangled PVR-150 cards have ivtv4.X installed and have image coming from Mplayer....how do i get the channels to work... ivtv-tune? |
| [07:21:00] | levander: | " Timing buffered disk reads: 72 MB in 3.07 seconds = 23.46 MB/sec" |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | after that, it's all layers of filesystem and where the requests are comming from |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | and to test that, you need something like bonnie++ |
| [07:22:00] | levander: | kormoc: does that mean that the controller is fast enough? |
| [07:22:00] | levander: | is bonnie++ available for linux? |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | it would appears so, aye |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | yes, it is |
| [07:22:00] | levander: | kormoc: yeah, i just found it in the ubuntu repositories |
| [07:23:00] | levander: | kormoc: i can't install it right now because of the state of my system |
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| [07:24:00] | levander: | kormoc: i only have ext3 partitions installed right now though, how much of a difference would that make since my mythbox will use jfs? difference in the bonnie benchmark? |
| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | yeah, bonnie benches filesystem speeds |
| [07:24:00] | levander: | kormoc: so i need to look for a 10mb/s speed to come out of bonnie? |
| [07:24:00] | kormoc: | it's what I would recommend, aye |
| [07:25:00] | kormoc: | 10 mb/s would be plenty for reading and writing |
| [07:25:00] | levander: | kormoc: i want a dual tuner system, how much more speed would you think i would need? |
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| [07:25:00] | kormoc: | it's something like 3/mbit per second + overhead I beleive |
| [07:26:00] | levander: | kormoc: where is all this stuff you're talkinga bout documented? |
| [07:26:00] | levander: | it's prolly not documented |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | all over the place. Google linux filesystem benchmarks for a bunch of random people's benchmarks |
| [07:26:00] | levander: | kormoc: but how do you know how fast it's supposed to be for myth? |
| [07:26:00] | kormoc: | you can figure out how much bandwidth you are gonna use to record and play by figuring out what quality you are going to record it at |
| [07:27:00] | kormoc: | I'm guessing, based on what I would find acceptable |
| [07:27:00] | levander: | kormoc: i'll benchmark the old disk i have in this box now tomorrow. But, i'm buying new disks when i turn this machine into a myth box, so i would assume those disks would benchmark better |
| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | in theory, aye |
| [07:28:00] | levander: | kormoc: have you heard of these Maxtor Quickview drives that are supposed to be specially designed for PVR's? |
| [07:28:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [07:28:00] | levander: | i'm gonna look into 'em, that may be what i get, who knows |
| [07:29:00] | kormoc: | what's special about them? |
| [07:29:00] | levander: | kormoc: no idea, sorry, haven't looked into them yet |
| [07:29:00] | levander: | kormoc: just seen claims they're designed for set top boxes |
| [07:33:00] | Ellegon: | they do a few things that are better for video.. |
| [07:34:00] | Ellegon: | just do not run your OS off of them |
| [07:34:00] | kormoc: | Ellegon, ooh? what do they do? |
| [07:34:00] | Ellegon: | and they are not ummm great if you put them in a raid |
| [07:34:00] | Ellegon: | Thermal Control: On board sensors monitor temperature and adjust characteristics as necessary to keep the temperature optimal |
| [07:34:00] | Ellegon: | A/V Streaming: QuickView drives have been optimized and tuned to provide consistent data to the PVR processor. Standard desktop drives can hang while retrying drive reads – QuickView drives know to move ahead and provide more data to keep video smooth |
| [07:35:00] | kormoc: | ahh, the same thing that WD's RE drives do |
| [07:35:00] | kormoc: | that actually is perfect for hardware raid |
| [07:36:00] | Ellegon: | they skip over errored blocks.. which cause a number of the hardware raid cons to drop the disk |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | which is good |
| [07:36:00] | Ellegon: | drop it as in you need to reinit it to bring in back |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | the raid controler should be dealing with the black blocks. |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | erm... what type of controler? |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | 3ware? |
| [07:37:00] | Ellegon: | I have seen it with 3ware and LSI |
| [07:37:00] | kormoc: | I am realtively certain that my 3ware controler deals with the bad blocks itself and works around them |
| [07:37:00] | kormoc: | I have a 7006–2 in my home box |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | the funny thing is, WD claims it does the opposite of what you are saying |
| [07:38:00] | Ellegon: | I have a -6 in mine .. and it well liked to drop these disks.. |
| [07:38:00] | Ellegon: | had to stop using them |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | by returning failure sooner, it allows the raid controler to map around them, thus keeping drives from dropping out of the array. |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | newest flash update and drivers? |
| [07:39:00] | Ellegon: | as of 3 months ago ... |
| [07:39:00] | kormoc: | Q: What is time-limited error recovery and why do I need it? |
| [07:39:00] | kormoc: | A: Desktop drives are designed to protect and recover data, at times pausing for as much as a few minutes to make sure that data is recovered. Inside a RAID system, where the RAID controller handles error recovery, the drive needn't pause for extended periods to recover data. In fact, heroic error recovery attempts can cause a RAID system to drop a drive out of the array. WD Caviar RE is engineered to prevent hard drive error recovery fallout by limi |
| [07:39:00] | kormoc: | ting the drive's error recovery time. With error recovery factory set to seven seconds, the drive has time to attempt a recovery, allow the RAID controller to log the error, and still stay online. |
| [07:39:00] | kormoc: | http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?D . . . ;Language=en |
| [07:39:00] | pembo13: | hey, i am just playing around with mythtv, i pressed r, then hit an arrow key, now the vidoe is out of sync with the sound |
| [07:39:00] | pembo13: | what do i do? |
| [07:40:00] | kormoc: | Ellegon, I would write to 3ware asking them about it, as the drive shouldn't drop out like that. |
| [07:40:00] | Ellegon: | hmmm sounds like WD may have it right ... where Maxtor messed it up |
| [07:41:00] | kormoc: | that could be |
| [07:41:00] | Ellegon: | to that point all 6 of my drives are WD-300s and I have not had a problem with them (related to the drives) since the change |
| [07:42:00] | Ellegon: | I had a umm power supple problem when I moved to 6 drives.. 6 drives, P4 3.2, 4 PVR-250's, 1 PVR-500 was a little to much for the 350 watt ps |
| [07:42:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I'd bet. |
| [07:43:00] | Ellegon: | caused random problems... |
| [07:43:00] | kormoc: | I'd recommend that you get a pc power and cooling supply if you have future issues |
| [07:43:00] | kormoc: | they are the best company and supplys, hands down imho. |
| [07:44:00] | Ellegon: | hmmm will have to look, my wife wants be to add another PVR-500 and I am going to have to rework the case to make it fit... all of the PVR cards run VERY hot |
| [07:44:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:45:00] | kormoc: | http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewpr . . . p?show=T51DX <-- that's the one I have |
| [07:45:00] | kormoc: | I have a really cool story about them |
| [07:45:00] | Ellegon: | nice... |
| [07:45:00] | Ellegon: | and not a bad price |
| [07:46:00] | pembo13: | my audio is out of sync with my video, and the audio continues even after closing mythfrontend |
| [07:46:00] | kormoc: | I bought the 510 and it was perfect. A few months later, I got a phone call from them at about 8 pm EST. They had a recall. They found a run of bad caps and my ps was one of the ones that it could have been in, so they were going to ship me a new one and I can keep the old one until it dies, if it does. I received the replacement one at 10 am saturday morning. they mailed it same day air, for free. |
| [07:46:00] | kormoc: | Both power supplys are working to this day, a few years later. |
| [07:47:00] | Ellegon: | wow... |
| [07:47:00] | Ellegon: | I will have to take a look |
| [07:47:00] | kormoc: | Yeah, they won me over with that :) |
| [07:48:00] | Ellegon: | sounds like it would be a good add to what is becoming my little datacenter in the basement |
| [07:48:00] | Ellegon: | http://www.thepit.org/DSC03141.jpg |
| [07:48:00] | kormoc: | hehe, nice :) |
| [07:49:00] | Ellegon: | second black one from the bottom is the backend |
| [07:49:00] | Ellegon: | does not even run X is just a backend |
| [07:49:00] | Ellegon: | I export the session if I need to run mythsetup |
| [07:49:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:50:00] | Ellegon: | when I setup with back in .15 I never thought it would become well a sysadmin job |
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| [07:51:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [07:51:00] | Ellegon: | now we have over a 1tb of kids show... hehe |
| [07:51:00] | pembo13: | what exactly does "Realtime priority would require SUID as root" mean? |
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| [07:53:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [07:53:00] | kormoc: | pembo13, it means it needs the suid flag set so it can run certain commands as root |
| [07:53:00] | Ellegon: | now if I could just get SVN to work on the a mac-mini I could get rid of all of the X-boxs that I have come to hate |
| [07:54:00] | pembo13: | kormoc: how helpful is it to do this? |
| [07:54:00] | kormoc: | depends on your system |
| [07:54:00] | kormoc: | with mine, it makes very little difference |
| [07:54:00] | kormoc: | with slower boxes, it can make a world of difference |
| [07:54:00] | Ellegon: | where with a xbox it makes a WORLD of diff |
| [07:54:00] | kormoc: | :) |
| [07:55:00] | pembo13: | ok thanks |
| [07:57:00] | pembo13: | i think i have a problem which brings me abck to a previous question, how do i know what my audio device is? |
| [07:57:00] | pembo13: | i muted my line in as the howto suggested to fix the sync |
| [07:58:00] | pembo13: | but now i am gettign no sound from mythtv |
| [07:58:00] | marcus2: | so are there capture cards that work well with hdtv settop boxes? |
| [07:58:00] | Ellegon: | umm.. how do you have your audio setup |
| [07:58:00] | Ellegon: | better asked what type of Cap card are you using |
| [07:59:00] | pembo13: | i have a wintv+fm |
| [08:00:00] | pembo13: | i ahve the audio coming into the aux on my sound card |
| [08:01:00] | Ellegon: | ok don't know that card.. all of the PVR-X50 cards you cap right off of the cap card... I do not even have a sound card in my backend |
| [08:02:00] | pembo13: | well i think the prob is that currently i have thigns configured to /dev/dsp |
| [08:06:00] | pembo13: | how do i setup mythtv to use alsa? |
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| [08:11:00] | pembo13: | i give up for toight |
| [08:11:00] | pembo13: | peace |
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| [08:11:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [08:11:00] | kormoc: | he forgot to mute the playback capture channel |
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| [08:14:00] | Mobleman: | Good morning nerdies! ;D |
| [08:16:00] | Flimzy: | Has anybody here successfully compiled MythTV with firewire support? I'm getting 'undefined symbol' errors in libiec61883.so |
| [08:16:00] | Mobleman: | I havn't got firewire :'( |
| [08:17:00] | Flimzy: | I haven't got a working mythtv :/ |
| [08:17:00] | Flimzy: | compiling this thing is a bitch |
| [08:17:00] | Mobleman: | Hmm... if you call i so.. |
| [08:17:00] | Xenna: | yes yum is a lot more relaxed |
| [08:18:00] | Xenna: | if it works ;) |
| [08:18:00] | Flimzy: | some of the dependencies aren't available as .debs... and compiling some of them is a challenge in and of itself |
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| [08:40:00] | Flimzy: | I'm beginning to think amd64 sucks for mythtv |
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| [08:40:00] | Xenna: | Flimzy: Well I didn't go the diy way |
| [08:41:00] | Xenna: | But I ended up running a Fedora 4 i386 version on my new box |
| [08:41:00] | Xenna: | (also amd 64) |
| [08:41:00] | Flimzy: | I wouldn't do it myself if I could find any other way under Debian |
| [08:41:00] | Xenna: | I ran into problems installing the packages for 64 also |
| [08:42:00] | Xenna: | I also tried Ubuntu and ran into compile errors |
| [08:42:00] | Xenna: | Ubuntu is debian based IIRC |
| [08:42:00] | Flimzy: | _based_ |
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| [08:43:00] | Xenna: | I bought my box specifically to run myth so I just tried on until I found something that worked |
| [08:43:00] | Xenna: | whatever distro |
| [08:43:00] | Flimzy: | that's what I got this box for, too |
| [08:43:00] | Flimzy: | but I'm beginning to think A64 is a mistake for that purpose |
| [08:43:00] | Flimzy: | heh |
| [08:43:00] | Flimzy: | I had myth working on A32 |
| [08:43:00] | Xenna: | This howto worked well: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [08:43:00] | Flimzy: | but that box was too slow for what I'm hoping for |
| [08:43:00] | Xenna: | You don't HAVE to run 64 bit software on a amd64 |
| [08:44:00] | Xenna: | they're backward compatible |
| [08:44:00] | Flimzy: | yeah |
| [08:44:00] | Flimzy: | I might try 32-bit myth in a chroot or something |
| [08:44:00] | Xenna: | In a chroot? |
| [08:44:00] | Flimzy: | I could also just install 32-bit Deb, but that seems like a waste |
| [08:45:00] | Xenna: | Just set aside a 4G partition and try that |
| [08:45:00] | Flimzy: | for 32-bit debian? |
| [08:45:00] | Flimzy: | or for a chroot? |
| [08:45:00] | Xenna: | yeah it feels like a bit of a waste |
| [08:45:00] | Xenna: | for 32 bit debian |
| [08:45:00] | Flimzy: | I'd just set up a chroot |
| [08:45:00] | Xenna: | but who cares if mythtv works ;) |
| [08:45:00] | Flimzy: | ? |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | oh... nm |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | I understand |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | With a chroot, it'll be easier to try amd64 myth as new versions come out |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | without having to reinstall all the time |
| [08:46:00] | edo: | sorry, mythtv work in ubuntu 5.10 ? |
| [08:46:00] | Xenna: | Yes, but you'd need 64 bit versions of ivtv if you use that right? |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | I dunno |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | I haven't gotten that far yet |
| [08:47:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [08:47:00] | Xenna: | edo: Yes, 2 of my colleagues use that |
| [08:47:00] | Flimzy: | I'm still just trying to get the dang thing to compile |
| [08:47:00] | Xenna: | I failed installing it though :( |
| [08:50:00] | edo: | as I can install it ? |
| [08:50:00] | Flimzy: | hrm... what's up with all these new debian distro names? |
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| [08:51:00] | edo: | i ave skystar2 |
| [08:51:00] | anxt: | i ave a vhs |
| [08:52:00] | Flimzy: | congrats? |
| [08:52:00] | anxt: | w00t |
| [08:52:00] | anxt: | but i did connect my htpc to my phone via bluetooth tonight |
| [08:52:00] | Flimzy: | I have a flippin' foobar myth compile directory |
| [08:53:00] | anxt: | and grabbed my address book |
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| [08:53:00] | anxt: | i have only done the 18.2 pathces or whatever |
| [08:53:00] | Flimzy: | I wonder if the svn versions of myth compile better on amd64 |
| [08:53:00] | anxt: | cause i got three frontends and from what i reard it sounds like db changed |
| [08:54:00] | anxt: | 4 frontends actualoly |
| [08:55:00] | anxt: | svn co update? |
| [08:55:00] | anxt: | what is the format |
| [08:56:00] | anxt: | one of my friends gave me a little booze |
| [08:56:00] | Flimzy: | okay, have a 32-bit chroot now |
| [08:56:00] | Flimzy: | I'll play with myth in there |
| [08:57:00] | Flimzy: | n |
| [08:57:00] | anxt: | 8119 |
| [08:57:00] | Flimzy: | who |
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| [08:58:00] | anxt: | wow i never used kde |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | at least not much |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | i wonder how i move then to ldap or something |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | what is the kde pim called? |
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| [08:59:00] | Flimzy: | stuipd irc client |
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| [11:25:00] | Syrus: | anyone know of anywhere in the UK to buy an IR serial port reciever? |
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| [12:24:00] | walto: | does anyone have experience with digital television over cable (dvb-c)? |
| [12:25:00] | walto: | I'm in the netherlands, and UPC is transferring to digital television. I'd like to use that with mythtv, but I guess things are encrypted |
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| [12:42:00] | Juski: | good afternoon |
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| [13:03:00] | cout_: | should it be possible to play the .nuv files generated by mythtv with mplayer? mplayer crashes when I try. |
| [13:07:00] | Juski: | cout_: depends what format the nuv files are |
| [13:07:00] | Juski: | if they're mpeg2 mplayer shouldn't have any problem |
| [13:08:00] | rjune: | Juski: run file ".nuvfile" |
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| [13:25:00] | cout_: | juski: rtjpeg |
| [13:25:00] | laga: | there used to be patches for mplayer to support mythtv/nuppelvideo. it's possible that they got integrated, though, and that it's a compile-time option now |
| [13:26:00] | cout_: | I would just play it with mythfrontend, but for some reason videos play really slowly in x11 (but they play fine with mplayer -vo vesa) |
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| [13:27:00] | cout_: | laga: it recognizes the file as tivo format |
| [13:35:00] | Syrus: | what do you guys use for remote control? |
| [13:35:00] | Syrus: | this DIY IR circuit stuff is baffling me |
| [13:36:00] | Syrus: | mainly because there's about 100 different types of alumninium electrolytic 4.7uF capacitors |
| [13:38:00] | rjune: | Syrus: I use a wireless keyboard |
| [13:38:00] | cout_: | I tried builing my own ir receiver once. it was problematic; most of the diy ir designs are really simplistic. so I bought an irman for $30 and it's worked fine for years. |
| [13:39:00] | Syrus: | irman? |
| [13:39:00] | Syrus: | what's that? |
| [13:39:00] | cout_: | http://www.evation.com/irman/ |
| [13:40:00] | Syrus: | hmm |
| [13:40:00] | Syrus: | $35 |
| [13:41:00] | cout_: | think of it as an amortized expense. |
| [13:41:00] | cout_: | $5/year for 7 years |
| [13:42:00] | Syrus: | heh |
| [13:42:00] | Syrus: | it's £30 in the uk |
| [13:42:00] | Syrus: | that's about $50 |
| [13:42:00] | Syrus: | I guess it'd save a lot of messing around though |
| [13:43:00] | cout_: | there are other options, too (see www.lirc.org) |
| [13:44:00] | Syrus: | I was looking for something I can purchase from within the uk |
| [13:44:00] | ** rjune is back ** | |
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| [13:56:00] | Juski: | cout_: it's really easy to build your own IR receiver these days.. you get a little 3 pin device which contains signal processing & all kinds of stuff. My home-brewed receiver has about 4 components in it (if that) |
| [13:57:00] | Juski: | that said, you _do_ need basic soldering skills or it'll end up being a mess |
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| [14:01:00] | psofa: | im on a geforce2 and im wondering what video output to use: xv? opengl? vidix? |
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| [14:01:00] | laga: | psofa: mythtv only support xv (and x11) |
| [14:02:00] | cout_: | juski: that sounds very different from what I played with. it was a really simple ir receiver that the computer had to poll for data. not reliable at all if you were doing anything cpu-intensive. |
| [14:02:00] | psofa: | okay this is not a mythtv spicific question, but i ask here bcause that would be the best place to ask :D |
| [14:02:00] | Juski: | cout_: I think lirc_serial is interrupt driven, so depends much less on the CPU ;) |
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| [14:04:00] | Juski: | how's it going today, laga? |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | Juski: well, it's monday. |
| [14:04:00] | laga: | Juski: and for you? |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | ah.. |
| [14:04:00] | Juski: | not having a bad day actually, but not being in work helps a lot |
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| [14:05:00] | Juski: | drained the coolant in my car & flushed it before putting some new in.. turned out to be easier than I expected |
| [14:05:00] | BigKahuna: | Anybody using MoTV with a hauppauge PVR? |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | Juski: darn. i wish i had a day off today. |
| [14:05:00] | BigKahuna: | actually anybody using MoTV with any card? |
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| [14:06:00] | Juski: | what's MoTV? |
| [14:06:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe. had to do that, too. my dad accidentally put some anti-freeze for the windscreen wiper into the engine coolant. |
| [14:06:00] | Juski: | oops! |
| [14:07:00] | laga: | Juski: right. well, it's still running ;) |
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| [14:21:00] | Juski: | that's good to hear, laga ;) |
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| [14:23:00] | laga: | Juski: au contraire to the other guy at school whose car failed. i don't like him so waved at him and smiled when i was driving by. some things just make your day. |
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| [14:27:00] | psofa: | anyone that may want to check this mtrr things http://pastebin.com/449554.Something is wrong there.and my card has 32mb ram |
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| [14:32:00] | Xenna: | any europeans here? |
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| [14:33:00] | Xenna: | I have a smal problem with myth with the way it handles channels |
| [14:33:00] | Xenna: | It's quite hard to get the channels sorted in teh way I want |
| [14:33:00] | Xenna: | and when I want to select a channel with the remote, I need to enter the channel number |
| [14:34:00] | Xenna: | In Holland nobody knows the channel numbers |
| [14:34:00] | Xenna: | Doesn'tring any bells? |
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| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | YAWN |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | wow, the bot survived another weekend |
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| [16:12:00] | ** Krazylegz abuses the bot ** | |
| [16:23:00] | malaTG: | anyone know anything about the 0.19 release? |
| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Like what ? |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | 0.19 > 0.18 |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:24:00] | eidolon: | deep. |
| [16:24:00] | malaTG: | like if is going to be released soon, I am going to lose my internet in one month :-) |
| [16:25:00] | fryfrog: | forever? |
| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | "hopefully" at the end of Dec |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | you didn't read the channel FAQ |
| [16:25:00] | fryfrog: | you should copy the internet to a floppy disk before you lose your connection! |
| [16:25:00] | malaTG: | hehe |
| [16:25:00] | malaTG: | nopp shouldn't I ask about releases? |
| [16:26:00] | fryfrog: | okay, i can see bitching about not reading a topic... |
| [16:26:00] | fryfrog: | but not reading a topic, then not reading every url *in* the topic? :p |
| [16:27:00] | malaTG: | Now I read it sry won't ask again....... |
| [16:28:00] | Krazylegz: | The topic is too long. Who reads, that, anyway? |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | .:. Please don't be a dumbass! Dammit! .:. |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | that part is so applicable some days :) |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [16:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [16:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, it is a monday. |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | you have a good point |
| [16:29:00] | Krazylegz: | I should try a different version of ivtv, but I'm lazy and scared. |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | I'm still using 0.2.0 something |
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| [16:30:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [16:30:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm still using 0.1.9. |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | it ain't seriously broke, I leave it the hell alond |
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| [16:30:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [16:30:00] | Krazylegz: | It's what came with that install of KnoppMyth. |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | alone rather |
| [16:30:00] | malaTG: | ok back trying to compile cedega............ |
| [16:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, some channels have static and I've narrowed it down to either the card or ivtv. |
| [16:30:00] | diginux: | Hello, I am wondering if it is possible to use the ivtv driver with one card and the bttv driver with another card? When I install the ivtv modules, the video for my bttv card works, but no sound, I normally use btaudio for the bttv card, anyone come across this problem before? |
| [16:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Food Network, Cartoon Network and Speed Channel have static. There could be riots. |
| [16:32:00] | diginux: | anyone? |
| [16:32:00] | fryfrog: | doesn't ivtv load some bttv modules with the same names? |
| [16:32:00] | fryfrog: | and/or replace them? or somethi? |
| [16:32:00] | diginux: | yes it does |
| [16:33:00] | diginux: | that is why I was wondering.. |
| [16:33:00] | fryfrog: | you using the latest kernel and ivtv you can? |
| [16:33:00] | fryfrog: | maybe? |
| [16:33:00] | diginux: | someone told me in here earlier, it was possible to use both, but that appears to be not true |
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| [16:33:00] | diginux: | fryfrog , yes I am |
| [16:33:00] | fryfrog: | it *should* be true, but bttv sucks anway :) |
| [16:33:00] | fryfrog: | just get another ivtv card :0 |
| [16:33:00] | diginux: | fryfrog , I am thinking about it, though it is always sad to not use something you could be using :) |
| [16:35:00] | fryfrog: | oh, that is easy to fix! |
| [16:35:00] | fryfrog: | use your bttv card for what i use mine for |
| [16:35:00] | Goshen: | I gave up getting the audio on the bttv card working, and bout a $140 PVR 500 card that tunes two channels, and has hardware encoding |
| [16:35:00] | xris (n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) Quit ("l8r") | |
| [16:36:00] | fryfrog: | it keeps my door from closing, sometims my chair from rolling backwards |
| [16:36:00] | Goshen: | it isn't worth the time messing with the bttv card |
| [16:37:00] | diginux: | I think I will just get another ivtv card then, it is nice not having to use my cpu up to encode the video, like I have to with bttv |
| [16:42:00] | eidolon: | dayam. woot.com sold out of the 250gig drives for $50 already |
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| [16:46:00] | Goshen: | thats a nice price :) |
| [16:47:00] | Goshen: | diginux: I think newegg has them in stock again, I got mine from mwave.com |
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| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | morning, xris |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | morning |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, didn't notice ya earlier |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | haven't seen you in awhile |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | well, the fiancee and future father-in-law were up for a week |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | so I didn't touch the computers for a bit |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | I feel like baking scones tonight |
| [17:33:00] | xris: | makes sense |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | wonder if I can find that recipe you sent |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Jamiroquai – Music of the Mind |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | in a more funky mood this morning |
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| [18:12:00] | gnoob: | i need to get my TV card working someday. |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | lol |
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| [18:20:00] | netrix: | 'lo. |
| [18:23:00] | netrix: | i'm not getting any sound off my pvr500 when i cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg. any ideas? |
| [18:23:00] | a1fa: | make sure you got the right firmwave, and reboot after everything is installed |
| [18:24:00] | a1fa: | drivers, and firmware.. once you compile ivtv, make sure you got the right firmware, reboot and go |
| [18:24:00] | netrix: | i'm using v4 of the drivers, and thought i was using the correct firmware. |
| [18:24:00] | netrix: | i will doublecheck the firmware again. |
| [18:24:00] | netrix: | thx. |
| [18:25:00] | eidolon: | hmm. anyone using a crystalfontz display on their myth box? i'm thinking of getting one, and controlling it via lcdproc... |
| [18:25:00] | eidolon: | http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/635/index.html <-- thinking about one of these. spice up the box a little. |
| [18:26:00] | netrix: | i have one of the older crystalfonts displays without the keypad. |
| [18:26:00] | netrix: | not using it with mythtv, just lcdproc. works great. |
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| [18:27:00] | eidolon: | what do you display on it? load / temp / boot messages? |
| [18:28:00] | netrix: | i used it with just lcdproc for system status information. |
| [18:29:00] | netrix: | a long tiem ago i also tried it with winamp to display track information. |
| [18:29:00] | netrix: | worked very well, and was really bright. |
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| [18:30:00] | netrix: | this is the one i have... http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/634/index.html |
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| [18:32:00] | eidolon: | ah, that's serial |
| [18:32:00] | ** eidolon looks at the usb version. ** | |
| [18:34:00] | eidolon: | wow. those are more expensive than the first one i posted. that has a mounting bracket and buttons. |
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| [18:35:00] | netrix: | the 634 is more expensive than the 635? |
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| [18:37:00] | netrix: | just checked, they are both pretty cheap. $45 for the 634 and $68.50 for the 635. |
| [18:37:00] | eidolon: | right, that's a 50% increase in price :) |
| [18:37:00] | eidolon: | but yeah, all in all, pretty cheap. |
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| [18:38:00] | netrix: | i'd spend the extra to get the one with a keypad. |
| [18:38:00] | netrix: | it's been a while since i looked at crystalfontz stuff, nice to know they are still around. |
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| [18:39:00] | eidolon: | yup. |
| [18:39:00] | eidolon: | does mythtv-lcd actually work and communicate with this stuff? |
| [18:39:00] | diginux: | hello, How do I change the resolution of my pvr-150MCE card to 720x480 instead of 480x480? It says you are supposed to be able to online, but when I try doing it, it gives me an error |
| [18:40:00] | eidolon: | i'm sort of wondering if i can write some monitoring scripts to chat with lcdproc and mythtv to show status information. |
| [18:40:00] | diginux: | I use this.. ivtvctl -d /dev/video0 -f width=720,height=480 |
| [18:40:00] | diginux: | ioctl: VIDIOC_S_FMT failed |
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| [18:40:00] | netrix: | eidolon: you probably can. i did some basic stuff with lcdproc and it was pretty easy to extend. |
| [18:41:00] | eidolon: | well, IANACP (... a c programmer :) – so if i can do it in bash, perl, or java, i'm good :) |
| [18:41:00] | eidolon: | if it involves hax0ring lcdproc, not so good :) |
| [18:42:00] | netrix: | download lcdproc and give it a whirl. |
| [18:42:00] | netrix: | there is a text based emulation mode so you don't need any hardware to play with it. |
| [18:42:00] | eidolon: | i have it on my laptop :) |
| [18:42:00] | eidolon: | oh? |
| [18:42:00] | eidolon: | hmm. |
| [18:42:00] | netrix: | 'thar you go. |
| [18:43:00] | ** eidolon runs up the lcdproc docs. ** | |
| [18:43:00] | netrix: | i am pretty sure, its been a while but i remember using the text based emulation to do testing. |
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| [18:45:00] | eidolon: | yeah, there's a curses driver. *digs* |
| [18:47:00] | netrix: | damn ... beat me to it. |
| [18:47:00] | netrix: | just found it in the docs --> http://lcdproc.sourceforge.net/docs/stable-0- . . . LINE-OPTIONS |
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| [18:49:00] | eidolon: | aha |
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| [18:49:00] | eidolon: | www.homeport.org/~dbs/screenshots/lcdd-1.png |
| [18:50:00] | eidolon: | now i just need ot talk to it :) |
| [18:50:00] | netrix: | cool stuff. |
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| [18:51:00] | netrix: | if you get it all working i will have to bust out my 634's. |
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| [18:54:00] | eidolon: | weird. debian installer didn't actually install the lcdproc binary in /usr/bin/* or any other bin dir. i found a binary of 'lcdproc' in the docs dir, gzipped binary. |
| [18:54:00] | eidolon: | running that, i have a live display in the curses driver now. |
| [18:56:00] | netrix: | sweet. |
| [18:56:00] | eidolon: | this is a nice config. the server is quite smart. |
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| [18:57:00] | netrix: | yeah i thought lcdproc looked like it was well designed the last time i looked at it. |
| [18:57:00] | eidolon: | shocking for an old hardware-hack linux app :) |
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| [19:37:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [19:37:00] | jono: | where can I find the mythmusic keyboard commands? I need to map them to lirc |
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| [20:09:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [20:09:00] | jono: | whenever mythfilldatabase runs it seems to bring back all of the channels I deleted – how do I fix this? |
| [20:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | almost make sure to remove them or uncheck them in zap2it |
| [20:10:00] | GCarrier_: | does anybody know how CAMs/softcams work please?? |
| [20:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | otherwise they will be seen as "new" channels and added back in |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | GCarrier_: read the /topic and the URLs in it |
| [20:11:00] | _willcooke_: | Hey Jono! Are you the bacon man? |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: i can't help but saying that this was the weirdest question of the day. |
| [20:11:00] | GCarrier_: | laga, more precisely?? |
| [20:11:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, :) |
| [20:12:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, yeah – heya!! |
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| [20:12:00] | laga: | GCarrier_: well, the "don't be a dumbass" part should be enough, actually :) |
| [20:12:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, this is with the uk listings grabber |
| [20:12:00] | GCarrier_: | ok |
| [20:12:00] | GCarrier_: | faq 8.2 |
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| [20:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | jono: then I don't know what your best option is |
| [20:12:00] | GCarrier_: | laga, i don't know what dumbass mean ! |
| [20:12:00] | GCarrier_: | trou du cul ? |
| [20:12:00] | _willcooke_: | hehe! Jono, I've just run mythfilldatabase for the first time! Progress is being made. Sorry I cant help with your problem though |
| [20:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | you could just hide the channel rather than delete it ? |
| [20:13:00] | Goshen: | jono: change your linup on zap2it |
| [20:13:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, wicked! |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | GCarrier_: pardon. je veux dire que on ne peut pas utiliser mythtv avev un softcam et nous ne parlons pas de ca |
| [20:13:00] | jono: | Goshen, not using zap2it |
| [20:13:00] | jono: | no uk bods in here? |
| [20:14:00] | GCarrier_: | laga, ok, thx! |
| [20:14:00] | jono: | where is juskin when you need him |
| [20:14:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, so its all installed then? |
| [20:14:00] | GCarrier_: | laga, good effort, good french! |
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| [20:14:00] | Criggie: | arse |
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| [20:14:00] | laga: | GCarrier_: merci :) |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | jono: You could just edit the channel and uncheck the "visible" box and not bother deleting |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | it wouldn't show up in your listings any more |
| [20:15:00] | _willcooke_: | Jono, Getting there. I found an ubuntu howto, but it wasn't very accurate, so I've been doing a battle with it. One problem that I had, that might relate to your problem, I set up myth as the "mythtv" user, so all the configs were in the mythtv users home dir, perhaps your deleted channels are being held in there, not as the user the cron job is running as? |
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| [20:16:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, ahhh, cunning!! |
| [20:17:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, everything on here is set up under the mythtv user too |
| [20:17:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, you weren't wrong about it taking a long time to fill the database... |
| [20:18:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, it takes bleeding ages |
| [20:18:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, while you are looking out for stuff, see if you can find a way to automate the channel icons – I have some but no where near all of them |
| [20:20:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, Ahh, I robbed a load of icons for my old TABTV, I just lifted them off the freeview site, but you've got sky, so they probably wont help |
| [20:21:00] | Goshen: | I just e-mailed the document maintiner updated Mandriva 2006 install instructions |
| [20:21:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, http://www.freeview.co.uk/whatson/index.html |
| [20:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | wonder if anyone maintains and channel icon "packs". something that could easily be imported by a user |
| [20:21:00] | Goshen: | the documentation still talks about mandrake 9.0 |
| [20:21:00] | Goshen: | which is no longer supported |
| [20:21:00] | Goshen: | 10.0 isn't either |
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| [20:22:00] | _willcooke_: | GreyFoxx, Good idea. One person in each county could then just make a tar file with them all in. |
| [20:22:00] | Goshen: | I like that idea as well |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | That would be sweet, with a little script to import them |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | "CALLSIGN = fileforthisstation.jpg" |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | and import on that |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | hmmmm |
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| [20:23:00] | _willcooke_: | I expect it would a bit dodgy on the old copyright. Perhaps a script to go and download them from a webpage. That way you're not giving out the icons, just a link to them |
| [20:23:00] | jono: | I am sure a script go go and grab the icons :P |
| [20:23:00] | jono: | it would only need a bit of python I reckon |
| [20:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are scripts to do somethign similar in myth now |
| [20:24:00] | _willcooke_: | i.e. "Channel 9 Icon = http://www.channel9.com/icon.png" |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | but It doesn't find many of my channels |
| [20:24:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, incidentally, while your here, you can help by banging on for python bindings too :) |
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| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | _willcooke_: That would work |
| [20:24:00] | jono: | my channels are looking sweet now |
| [20:24:00] | _willcooke_: | Yay! We all love the python. Bindings to do what? |
| [20:24:00] | jono: | I love this OSD |
| [20:24:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, for creating myth modules |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | jono: Which OSD ? |
| [20:24:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, juskin's blue one |
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| [20:25:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, Oh! yess we neeeeed that. How is it done at the moment? c? |
| [20:25:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, yeah |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I though he had made a theme, didn't realize he had a OSD as well |
| [20:25:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, I want to make an internet radio module |
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| [20:25:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, how are you finding the picture quality compare to the sky box proper. |
| [20:25:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, yeah its awesome |
| [20:25:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, looks fine |
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| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | What the title of it? Got a URL ? |
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| [20:25:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, turn on deinterlace though |
| [20:25:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, can't remember it |
| [20:25:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, really? you're telly does progressive? |
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| [20:26:00] | _willcooke_: | you're = your |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | jono: I'm looking at his site and don't see an OSD, but I'll keep looking :) |
| [20:26:00] | poop: | My PJ looks frigging huge when ceiling mounted. |
| [20:27:00] | _willcooke_: | Pajamas? |
| [20:27:00] | poop: | projector |
| [20:27:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh. Yes, that would make more sense. |
| [20:28:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, well juskin said to turn it on to stop the motion blur |
| [20:28:00] | jono: | seemed to fix it |
| [20:28:00] | jono: | not spent much time tweaking the picture though |
| [20:28:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, sorry, interlacing on to stop motion blur, or off? |
| [20:29:00] | jono: | on |
| [20:30:00] | jono: | there are different types to – jus suggested bob but I used kernel |
| [20:30:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, Either way, I'll try it. I've got to go shopping to get all the bits for my front end yet. Is your case worth the money? |
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| [20:33:00] | jono: | I think so – it could be a bit quieter, but the LCD is well worth worth it |
| [20:34:00] | jono: | I could always buy some cheaper case fans anyway they are only a tenner or so |
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| [20:36:00] | Juski: | aye aye |
| [20:37:00] | Juski: | jono: you got one of them fancy tellies with 100Hz or something? |
| [20:37:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | been reading back through the buffer.. I'm not aware I did any OSD – though I've been beavering away on my wide theme ;) |
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| [20:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:40:00] | poop: | more wide themes |
| [20:40:00] | Juski: | poop: one big difference.. mine will be free ;) |
| [20:41:00] | Juski: | and hopefully it'll be ready for 0.19 too |
| [20:41:00] | Juski: | I'm being quite cunning this time.. there's gonna be another one done on the back of this one aswell |
| [20:42:00] | Juski: | well – I figured.. I can't code to save my life. My documentation always has stuff missing, so... |
| [20:43:00] | jono: | Juski, I thought you did the blue OSD – you posted the link |
| [20:43:00] | Juski: | erm... my stuff is at www.juski.co.uk |
| [20:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe a link to isthmus ? That's got a lot of blue iun it |
| [20:44:00] | Juski: | I think you might have me confused with the guy who's also done a theme recently |
| [20:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.aldorf.no/mythtv/ |
| [20:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | New theme, plus the isthmus OSD |
| [20:44:00] | Juski: | that's the one |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | I dunno what it is about the colour blue & mythtv themes though |
| [20:45:00] | jono: | isthmus osd, thats it – its awesome :) |
| [20:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to use isthmus, I liked it |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | I can't use that either.. my EPIA doesn't like colour OSDs apparently |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Using XVMC ? |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | aye |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's the culprit |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | Juski: should try the chromakey OSD ;). dunno if it works with via, though |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | the osd is "gray" with xvmc |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | I'm not too bothered about colour to be honest.. so long as the video is! |
| [20:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:47:00] | Juski: | actually someone might be able to help me out here: |
| [20:47:00] | _willcooke_: | Excuse my ignorance, whats an EPIA and a Via? Some chipset or something? |
| [20:48:00] | Juski: | I've been re-working the livetv program guide in my theme & the video preview isn't in the right place (probably because I can't have Xv on a vnc X server) |
| [20:48:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: www.viaembedded.com (I think) |
| [20:48:00] | Juski: | very nifty all-in-one motherboards which do a very good job of being myth frontends (for SDTV) |
| [20:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | arg, compile failure |
| [20:49:00] | Juski: | I modded the CPU heatsink/fan so it's now just a big heatsink.. and now I have a totally silent (diskless) frontend |
| [20:49:00] | _willcooke_: | Ah ok. I think I'll stick with a full blown atx MB for now! All this new technology makes my brain hurt. |
| [20:49:00] | Juski: | put it this way – it's so quiet I've now got to find a quieter clock for my livingroom |
| [20:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx reapplies the same commit as #7990 as it was reverted in 8102 ** | |
| [20:50:00] | _willcooke_: | what sort of horse power do you need for a set-top-box equivilent? |
| [20:50:00] | Juski: | I'm looking to re-house the EPIA board sometime soon – it's far too roomy inside that LC02 case I've got |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_ most STBs only have a 300 or 500Mhz CPU |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | or less |
| [20:51:00] | rsdvd: | Juski : how dod you mod the heatsink? my M10k is too loud |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | but they also have hardware MPEG decoders |
| [20:51:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, would that rely on a mpeg2 hardware decoder. |
| [20:51:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, ah! :) |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: get a zalman northbridge cooler |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | most have 150–300mhz ppc or strongarm chips |
| [20:51:00] | rsdvd: | was it expensive? |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | about £10 from Maplin |
| [20:51:00] | rsdvd: | Kewl! easy to fir? |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | flat out the CPU is about 55'C |
| [20:52:00] | _willcooke_: | Hmmm, I wonder if my old RISCPC could be of use here then! |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: quite easy if you've ever fitted a CPU HSF |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | oh no! I'm running out of wine!!!!! |
| [20:52:00] | ** Juski is a bit of a lush ** | |
| [20:53:00] | rsdvd: | Kewl.....I might have a go at that.....the fan keeps we awake at night |
| [20:53:00] | rsdvd: | :-) I always have plenty of wine in |
| [20:53:00] | _willcooke_: | ;is drinking wine! |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: if you're gonna leave it on I'd recommend mounting like an 80mm low-rpm fan above it |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | (just in case) |
| [20:54:00] | rsdvd: | I need to think about ti first.......I have several fans int he case aswell ....s oI mgith start by removing them ans eeing what temp ti gets to |
| [20:54:00] | Juski: | I just power mine down when I'm done watching with it – no big deal to reboot... I wake it up with WOL & by the time I get downstairs it's in the mythtv menu |
| [20:55:00] | jono: | man, setting up these channels is dull :P |
| [20:55:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, so you getting your bits for the box tomorrow? |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | gonna experiment with USB pendrives very soon |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | jono: you wanna try theming! shit! |
| [20:55:00] | _willcooke_: | I'm planning on using a myth box as a computer-proper downstairs, so I can check email, read the web etc etc etc, I assume that I can just alt-tab the myth window and fire up firefox? Or do you guys tend to have a myth box just for watching tv? |
| [20:55:00] | rsdvd: | Juski : sounds good! I woudl like to find a way to suspend the machine from the remote and then revive it |
| [20:55:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, yeah, looking on ebuyer at the moment! |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | email on telly.. hmm |
| [20:56:00] | _willcooke_: | juski, not a good idea? |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | you'll need like 18 point fonts or you won't be able to read it |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | and if it's big enough to read from the settee, be ready to do a *lot* of scrolling |
| [20:57:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, Ah. I've convinced the wife that a myth box is a great idea, so we can use it as a computer downstairs. Hmmm, I'll just not tell her it wont work! |
| [20:57:00] | jono: | Juski, hah! |
| [20:57:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, its gonna be awesome, pal :) |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | depends though.. if your telly has a VGA input you might have the last laugh |
| [20:58:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, I hope so!! What res are you running at now? |
| [20:58:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, currently 800x600 |
| [20:58:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, I was going to build a vga to scart |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | jono: you need to do 720x576 if you can |
| [20:58:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, Ok, so that's as good as a normal telly picture, actually slightly better |
| [20:59:00] | jono: | Juski, really, why? |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | so you're not rescaling the video |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | DVB-T is 720x576 |
| [20:59:00] | jono: | Juski, does that have a performance impact? |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | can do |
| [20:59:00] | jono: | hmmm I will check it out |
| [20:59:00] | jono: | thanks |
| [20:59:00] | _willcooke_: | Would a Nvidia FX5200 be a good choice? |
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| [21:00:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, not sure about gfx cards |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | the only snag with using nvidias in linux (IIRC) is that you never get proper interlaced output.. they keep breaking it in the driver |
| [21:00:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, I reckon anything with tv out will be good |
| [21:00:00] | _willcooke_: | so, ati then? |
| [21:00:00] | jono: | I heard ati cards are worse cards with better drivers and nvidia cards are better cards with worse drivers |
| [21:00:00] | jono: | alan cox told me that, I suppose he would know |
| [21:00:00] | kormoc: | jono, what?! |
| [21:00:00] | jono: | kormoc, eh? |
| [21:01:00] | _willcooke_: | I thought ATI & linux weren't good bedfellows? |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | nVidia's drivers are a godsend compaired to ATI's |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | and the TV out.. that's interlaced, but the actual display area is progressive |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | ATI's TV outs are (allegedly) top notch |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | but their drivers stink of poo |
| [21:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Hmmmm, what to do, what to do. Juski, what are you using. (I bet you say a 350!) |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | I didn't have any complaints about my FX5200 when I was using one.. compared very well to my Panasonic DVD player actually |
| [21:02:00] | edo: | hi all, help to install mythtv |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | _willcooke_, nvidia is a wonderful choice for a mythbox. you'll get xvmc (helps a lot) and good, stable, wonderful drivers |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | as for if the 5200 will work or not, it very well will. |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: I'm using the EPIA M10000's Svid output ;) |
| [21:03:00] | _willcooke_: | I'll stick with the 5200 then! |
| [21:03:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, next we come to sound cards..... ;) Anything with an sp dif? |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | a couple of years ago I bought an ATI all in wonder card.. cost me well over £100, and it didn't do everything it was claimed to do. Infact it barely even worked. Since then... I'll not have a single good thing to say about em |
| [21:03:00] | kormoc: | _willcooke_, the only issue will be with HD, it's a slowerish card. |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_: again, I'm using the built-in audio on my EPIA, thru its coaxial digital output into my yamaha receiver |
| [21:04:00] | _willcooke_: | kormoc, not a problem for me! My telly cost a hundred quid, and UK freeview wont have HD for a long long time! |
| [21:04:00] | kormoc: | _willcooke_, with sound, get a hardware mixable card, based on the alsa card matrix |
| [21:04:00] | ** Juski goes to get more wine ** | |
| [21:04:00] | kormoc: | _willcooke_, it will save you *a ton* of headaches |
| [21:05:00] | _willcooke_: | Cool, I'll get a SB with 5.1 and spdif in to my amp |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | the trick is not all SB's will work |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | make sure the card you are getting is supported, based on that list. |
| [21:05:00] | _willcooke_: | I think EMU10K is well supported, so I'll go with that, since I know it works on this computer. |
| [21:06:00] | Juski: | my opinion of soundblaster shit went down a lot recently too |
| [21:06:00] | kormoc: | I bought a 24 bit live card, and it didn't support hardware mixing, the 16 bit live that I bought after that worked perfectly |
| [21:06:00] | Juski: | though that's only from a windows point of view |
| [21:06:00] | Juski: | :/ |
| [21:06:00] | kormoc: | I really wish I would have looked at the list before buying. |
| [21:06:00] | _willcooke_: | :) |
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| [21:07:00] | Juski: | I really wish I'd got into Linux when I was a teenager lol |
| [21:07:00] | laga: | Juski: i did. it sucks. ;) |
| [21:07:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [21:07:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, amen to that! Stupid acorn! |
| [21:07:00] | Juski: | when I was 13 I was doing z80 assembler programming on my zx81 |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | my hand ffs |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | *by hand |
| [21:08:00] | rsdvd: | Are there any disavantages of using a VGA input on a LCD TV? |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | Juski: well, that's even worse. ;) |
| [21:08:00] | _willcooke_: | Ah, good old 6502! |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: only if you're gonna be using it at a non-native rez |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | laga: I made fucking sure I made up for last time when I became a DJ though ;) |
| [21:09:00] | _willcooke_: | 6502 was actually an easy processor to get on with |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | yeah that had like what.. six registers? |
| [21:09:00] | _willcooke_: | K.I.S.S ;) |
| [21:09:00] | rsdvd: | Juski : according to the manual for the TV i is 852x480.....so as long as I set X to that , there are no othet pitfalls? |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | I'll spare you all the sordid tales of my debut in Newcastle Upon Tyne ;) |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe. :> |
| [21:10:00] | Juski: | 852x480.. what's the *viewable* res? |
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| [21:10:00] | Juski: | you'll definitely be having to deinterlace |
| [21:11:00] | Juski: | it *really* sucks using a TV out & needing to deinterlace though |
| [21:11:00] | rsdvd: | for VGA it says....Display Format Supported = 640x480, 800x600,1024x768, 1280x1024 |
| [21:12:00] | Juski: | ugh |
| [21:12:00] | Juski: | so it's only 4:3 then |
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| [21:12:00] | Juski: | I saw someone buying a 4:3 TV at the weekend... just thought "suckers!" |
| [21:13:00] | _willcooke_: | Will an nv 5200 do 16:9 ok? |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | easy |
| [21:13:00] | edo: | Does Any one know how to install mythtv ? |
| [21:13:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, which distro? |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | 1280x720 |
| [21:13:00] | rsdvd: | It says 16:9 on the box |
| [21:13:00] | edo: | ubuntu |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | edo: apt-get install mythtv |
| [21:13:00] | edo: | i try |
| [21:14:00] | Juski: | if I could offer one tip for ubuntu, edo: |
| [21:14:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, well, it's your lucky day. I'm installing myth on to an ubuntu box right at this very second |
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| [21:14:00] | Juski: | http://www.abarbaccia.com/ |
| [21:14:00] | edo: | tnk |
| [21:14:00] | kormoc: | _willcooke_, as long as it's in the res' listed as being supported, it's supported. |
| [21:14:00] | Juski: | I did it last Thursday night & it took me 2 hours from a flat HDD.. but that didn't include configuring xmltv |
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| [21:16:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, it's taken me nearly two hours for mythfilldatabase to finish, I'm still waiting.......... |
| [21:16:00] | Juski: | what?! |
| [21:16:00] | _willcooke_: | It's just sat there...... |
| [21:17:00] | _willcooke_: | channel motors.tv (1581) not seen on site at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 203. |
| [21:17:00] | _willcooke_: | channel taste.co.uk (278) not seen on site at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 203. |
| [21:17:00] | _willcooke_: | channel gmtv.co.uk (1801) not seen on site at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 203. |
| [21:17:00] | _willcooke_: | HASH(0x8cfe390) |
| [21:17:00] | laga: | can be normal |
| [21:17:00] | Juski: | I just let it use the EIT from DVB |
| [21:17:00] | Juski: | yeh _willcooke_: that's about par for the course |
| [21:17:00] | _willcooke_: | jono said his took an age, so I'm assuming it's not borked yet |
| [21:17:00] | Juski: | but TWO HOURS?! |
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| [21:18:00] | _willcooke_: | Well, maybe not, maybe 1 hour. BUT, it's not finished yet, and I'm fed up waiting! |
| [21:18:00] | Juski: | that's like how long it took in mythtv 0.16 |
| [21:18:00] | Juski: | is that using xmltv? |
| [21:18:00] | edo: | _willcooke_ it work ? |
| [21:18:00] | laga: | it can take some time. relax and grab a beer ;) |
| [21:18:00] | _willcooke_: | I guess so, it's using tv_grab_uk_rt |
| [21:18:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, so far so good. |
| [21:19:00] | ** Juski does a mythfilldatabase ** | |
| [21:19:00] | edo: | :( not x me |
| [21:19:00] | _willcooke_: | laga, I've finished my first one, I'd better get another frosty one! |
| [21:19:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, what's the problem? |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | _willcooke_: right! :) |
| [21:20:00] | edo: | i wrught apt-get install mythtv in terminal but 0 |
| [21:20:00] | Juski: | linux=free, as in beer, so crack open another one ;) |
| [21:20:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, the epg from the dvb is, well, not exactly full of information |
| [21:20:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, "sudo apt-get install mythtv"? |
| [21:20:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, it takes mine an hour or so to do |
| [21:20:00] | Juski: | yeh _willcooke_: but you kind of get the director's life story with uk_rt |
| [21:20:00] | jono: | at least |
| [21:20:00] | jono: | maybe two hours |
| [21:21:00] | jono: | Juski, yeah hehe |
| [21:21:00] | edo: | _willcooke_ i'm new bee no sudo :) ,retry |
| [21:21:00] | _willcooke_: | I suppose I could bother to tell it "no" to all the channels I dont have, but I couldn't be arsed, so I said yes to all. Ooops! |
| [21:22:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, I'm using http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html |
| [21:22:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, but it's not 100% accurate |
| [21:22:00] | _willcooke_: | I didnt know about the abarbaccia.com one until just now! |
| [21:22:00] | Juski: | actually.. I did a bit of graft in the wide theme to fit in some more data: http://www.juski.co.uk/screenshot.png |
| [21:23:00] | edo: | _willcooke_ i do but no icon in menu |
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| [21:23:00] | _willcooke_: | edo, yeah, that's normal. Follow those instructions I sent you, ask if you get stuck. |
| [21:23:00] | Juski: | my mythfilldatabase finished |
| [21:24:00] | edo: | ok |
| [21:24:00] | _willcooke_: | Juski, WHAT!?!?!? Is that because it did an update, not a complete fill? |
| [21:24:00] | Juski: | how many channels have you configured? |
| [21:25:00] | Juski: | I've got about 15 I think |
| [21:25:00] | Juski: | what version of xmltv have you got? it used to do like 2 or more passes.. but that was quite a long time ago |
| [21:26:00] | _willcooke_: | Ahh, this is where being a lazy get means I suffer. I said yes to all the channels. So, god knows, a million? |
| [21:26:00] | _willcooke_: | xmltv, dunno. What ever comes with Breezy |
| [21:27:00] | Juski: | yes to all the channels? shit! that could be about 300 or more! |
| [21:27:00] | _willcooke_: | If I kill the fill (ooo, that rhymes) how do I get it to prompt me to ask about which channels I want? Is that an xmltv reconfigure? |
| [21:27:00] | Juski: | tv_grab_uk_rt --configure |
| [21:27:00] | _willcooke_: | 300, a million, who knows! |
| [21:27:00] | _willcooke_: | As the mythtv user? |
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| [21:28:00] | Juski: | or just run mythtv-setup again & set your 'video source' (btw isn't it a bit confusing calling it a video source?) |
| [21:28:00] | _willcooke_: | Yes, very confusing. It should be called EPG |
| [21:28:00] | laga: | ack |
| [21:29:00] | _willcooke_: | Good call on the setup thing.... let's try this again...... but first, more beer |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | mythtv-users & booze.. a good combination? |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | actually a while ago a mate of mine came online asking for help with his mythtv.. (he linux guru, BIG time).. but he was pissed... |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | pissed of or drunk? |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | both! |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | thought I was gonna have to talk him out of downloading a torrent of MCE |
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| [21:31:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | ayyy I'm really enjoying this 'night off' |
| [21:33:00] | Juski: | jono: you still around fella? |
| [21:34:00] | Led-Hed: | when I use xvmc I get a blue line at the top of the screen, and my freezes (briefly) when I bring up the OSD. Any ideas on how to fix this? |
| [21:34:00] | Led-Hed: | video freezez |
| [21:34:00] | jono: | Juski, I am indeed, pal :) |
| [21:35:00] | Juski: | just been wondering about this LUGRadio live do... wassit like? |
| [21:35:00] | jono: | Juski, its awesome – its a big community linux event |
| [21:35:00] | jono: | and next year its gonna be amazing |
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| [21:35:00] | jono: | there are talks, exhibitions, bof sessions and a big party on the sat night :) |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | I like the sound of that... so peeps know how to party then ;) |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | actually.. ties in with my birthday quite nicely.. like i need an excuse ;) |
| [21:37:00] | jono: | Juski, yeah big party, plenty of beer :) |
| [21:37:00] | jono: | Juski, hey you have to come down, celebrate your b'day :) |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | I should have known really.. linux.. free as in BEER |
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| [21:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | good day |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | good evening |
| [21:39:00] | jono: | :) |
| [21:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody running mysql5? |
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| [21:45:00] | jono: | brb – dinner |
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| [21:56:00] | _willcooke_: | Thats more like it, about 20mins for a filldatabase! |
| [21:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | whoa |
| [21:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's a long time? |
| [21:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | excuse me, wrong punctuation |
| [21:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ! |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | It was taking hours before. That's about 30 channels |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | from 300 off |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | odd |
| [21:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I take it you're not using datadirect? |
| [21:58:00] | _willcooke_: | nope, radio times in the uk. God bless 'em |
| [21:59:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, how did you run it again? |
| [21:59:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, yeah, but this time I actually bothered to tell it about the channels I didnt want |
| [22:00:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, oh right |
| [22:00:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh, arse. |
| [22:00:00] | jono: | I am gonna schedule mine for a 4am – 5am cron job |
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| [22:00:00] | _willcooke_: | It didnt work. OK, Juski, back to work..... |
| [22:00:00] | _willcooke_: | My sql server is running on another box, and that all seemed to be working ok, but now I get.... |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Updated programs: 9110 Unchanged programs: 0 |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Adjusting program database end times... |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | 0 replacements made. |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Marking repeats...found 0 |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window...found 02005-12–05 21:59:51.597 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | Connection timed out. |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | You probably should modify the Master Server settings |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | in the setup program and set the proper IP address. |
| [22:01:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, so mysql server isn't on 127.0.0.1, but this is refering to the "backend" server which is. So.... wtf? |
| [22:02:00] | _willcooke_: | Clues anyone? |
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| [22:04:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, help! |
| [22:04:00] | _willcooke_: | Does the sqlserver and myth HAVE to be on the same box? |
| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | _willcooke_ maybe an adjustment to mysql.txt... and possible to the mysql config to allow connections from other machines |
| [22:06:00] | _willcooke_: | the mysql config is ok, that I know. Also, it *can* talk to the mysql server since it created all the tables. What's this about a backend server address? |
| [22:06:00] | _willcooke_: | perhaps I should give it a proper ip address, not just 127.0.0.1 |
| [22:06:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, just reading up |
| [22:07:00] | _willcooke_: | is "backend server" the same as "mysql server"? As I understood it the backend was the box with the tv cards, and the mysql can be elsewhere |
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| [22:07:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, give it the right local ip address |
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| [22:07:00] | _willcooke_: | Ahh, yes. RTFM! I've just spotted that! |
| [22:09:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, try again........ |
| [22:09:00] | jono: | :) |
| [22:09:00] | jono: | I just sorted all my channels out now :) |
| [22:09:00] | rjune: | jono: yay! |
| [22:10:00] | s34n: | can anybody suggest a portable sata raid enclosure? |
| [22:10:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, what removed the crap you didnt want, or got the deleted ones to stay deleted? |
| [22:10:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, have you used the web interface yet>? |
| [22:11:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, cant even get the backend to start yet! ;) |
| [22:11:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, oh right, whats the error? |
| [22:11:00] | _willcooke_: | Urk! And the frontend on this machine just seg faulted! |
| [22:11:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, still trying to get the channels in to the db |
| [22:11:00] | _willcooke_: | I think you were right tho'. My fault for not chaning the ip address |
| [22:11:00] | jono: | that fixed it ? |
| [22:12:00] | _willcooke_: | Dunno yet, I think it will though |
| [22:12:00] | jono: | hang on, are you starting it with sudo ? |
| [22:12:00] | jono: | don't start it as root |
| [22:12:00] | _willcooke_: | no, doing it from the myth user |
| [22:13:00] | jono: | do: sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [22:13:00] | _willcooke_: | can I do that while the db fill is going? |
| [22:13:00] | jono: | sure |
| [22:13:00] | _willcooke_: | ok, here goes |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:14:00.698 taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:14:05.699 taking too long to be allowed to read.. |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:14:05.699 Took more than 10 seconds to be allowed to read, aborting. |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://192.168.0.63:6543/var/cache/mythtv//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [22:14:00] | jono: | any luck? |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:14:05.720 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:14:05.720 Decoder not alive, and trying to play.. |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:14:07.661 Changing from None to None |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:14:07.715 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | no! |
| [22:14:00] | Juski: | permissions? |
| [22:14:00] | _willcooke_: | I suspect that's because the box is flat out doing the fill.... |
| [22:15:00] | _willcooke_: | ah, could be, where are they set? |
| [22:15:00] | jono: | hmmm |
| [22:17:00] | _willcooke_: | the mythtv user is in the video group |
| [22:17:00] | Juski: | chown <user> /var/cache/mythtv (etc) |
| [22:17:00] | jono: | chown -R a+rwx /var/cache/mythtv |
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| [22:18:00] | _willcooke_: | drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2005-12–05 22:14 mythtv |
| [22:18:00] | _willcooke_: | looks like it's already there |
| [22:19:00] | _willcooke_: | Looking at the myth log..... |
| [22:19:00] | _willcooke_: | Ahh, looks like a channel tuning thing. The card is getting no data, so isnt tuned properly. |
| [22:20:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, the fill finished OK, I think.. is this good........ |
| [22:20:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:18:04.208 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.63:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [22:20:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:18:04.216 Using protocol version 15 |
| [22:25:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, are you running myth under x? |
| [22:26:00] | jono: | the x perm? |
| [22:26:00] | ** jono had wandered off for a second to rub the puppy's tummy ** | |
| [22:26:00] | jono: | (not a metaphor :P) |
| [22:27:00] | jono: | it should start and then go back to the prompt |
| [22:27:00] | _willcooke_: | No, I meant are you using Xorg to display the pictures, or some other wierd and wonderfull thingy |
| [22:28:00] | jono: | oh, I am using X.org :) |
| [22:28:00] | jono: | so does the backend work :) |
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| [22:31:00] | _willcooke_: | hold on, hold on, I think I'm on to something here.... we have schedules! |
| [22:32:00] | Nnyan: | hello everyone noob here with a few mythtv questions |
| [22:32:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, wicked |
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| [22:33:00] | Nnyan: | anyone have any experience getting MythTV working with a light distro like Slax or MCNLive? |
| [22:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nnyan: did up a set of packages to run myth under slax |
| [22:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just haven't updated them in a while |
| [22:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | but now that the new myslax creator is out I plan to update them and put them up for anyone to download |
| [22:35:00] | shiro: | Nnyan, knoppmyth isnt all that big – 600mb or so |
| [22:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | got most of a wiki done up explaining how to do it up and get it running |
| [22:36:00] | Nnyan: | GreyFoxx, thats cool mind can I have a link to that wiki? Shiro I have KnoppMyth up and running on my primary PVR but I have a few low end jobs that I need a lighter distro for |
| [22:37:00] | shiro: | yeah it would be nice to have a stripped down version for front ends |
| [22:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nnyan: If you send me your email I will send the link in a couple days after I do up the new packages. I want to put it all up at the same time |
| [22:37:00] | Nnyan: | the new R5A26 solved a bunch of my problems with the previous versions |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, I think my problem is: |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:03.191 DVB#0 Using DVB card 0, with frontend Zarlink MT352 DVB-T. |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:03.200 DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for transport 0 |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:03.201 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel . |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:03.204 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully (using PS mode). |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:03.208 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:04.209 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:05.212 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [22:37:00] | _willcooke_: | 2005-12–05 22:37:06.214 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [22:38:00] | _willcooke_: | So, problem 1. Where do I set the dvb tuning parameters for transport 0? |
| [22:38:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, no idea, not done DVB here |
| [22:39:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, glad you are doing it first – I am setting it up next week hopefully |
| [22:39:00] | shiro: | Nnyan, it solved some for me and caused others |
| [22:39:00] | shiro: | i just need to dump these wintv cards |
| [22:40:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, They do work, and work very well, so don't be put off by my stumblings! |
| [22:43:00] | jono: | wicked! |
| [22:43:00] | jono: | anyone know how to stop flicker in the tv? |
| [22:43:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, does your telly do 100hz? |
| [22:44:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, no idea, how do I check? |
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| [22:45:00] | Nnyan: | hey shiro what problems did you have? I have PVR500 cards which where a major pain with older versions of IVTV (at least for me being a linux noob) |
| [22:46:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, if you don't know, then I would suspect not. It's one of those things only a.v. types have! |
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| [22:46:00] | jono: | _willcooke_, apparently it does 60 – what do I hack in xorg.conf to do 60hz? |
| [22:46:00] | _willcooke_: | jono, Have you created any "modelines" in xorg.conf? |
| [22:47:00] | jono: | there is a modeline |
| [22:49:00] | jono: | right I am off to bed |
| [22:49:00] | jono: | night all |
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| [22:49:00] | shiro: | no mine are worse Nnyan – i have the wintv go cards |
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| [22:50:00] | shiro: | i wish i had a pvr500 |
| [22:50:00] | shiro: | must be nice – lol |
| [22:51:00] | _willcooke_: | laters jono |
| [22:54:00] | Nnyan: | i actually got them on sale so it wasn't too bad, but i wish they had a remote control since getting one working is another P.I.T.A |
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| [22:56:00] | shiro: | yeah i am nervous about buying one without ir |
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| [23:00:00] | SuPerher0: | do you have to have a video card to use mythtv? If cable is going into capture card and output is coming from capture card to tv? |
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| [23:13:00] | sgentry6: | when running mythsetup or mythbackend I get this error -> unable to connect to the backend server |
| [23:13:00] | sgentry6: | I know I need to set this, but how do I set that value? |
| [23:14:00] | shiro: | sounds like mysql isnt running (i could be wrong tho) |
| [23:15:00] | Nnyan: | i don't know how you can bootup without a video card |
| [23:15:00] | Nnyan: | but i'm no expert |
| [23:15:00] | sgentry6: | the daemon is running, I can open up the console |
| [23:16:00] | Nnyan: | i thought you needed X for mythTV? |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | X doesn't need to be running to launching mythbackend |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | you require an X server to run mythtv-setup ro mythfrontend |
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| [23:17:00] | Nnyan: | well there you go, = ) I don't have any experience with seperate back/front ends |
| [23:19:00] | shiro: | yeah but he was basically asking if he could use his capture card as a video card |
| [23:20:00] | kormoc: | you can with some capture cards, ala the 350 |
| [23:22:00] | Nnyan: | i liked the Nvidia video out so I just got myself a cheapo FX5200 and it looks great |
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| [23:24:00] | shiro: | yeah, you can pick up 5200s pretty cheap |
| [23:24:00] | shiro: | i was having issues with my mx 4000 and got a brand new 5200 for like $25 |
| [23:26:00] | sgentry6: | starting x automatically starts up mythsetup, after exiting out of the program i see that my connection to the backend server is timing out — is this mater backend server for mysql or for mythsetup |
| [23:28:00] | Nnyan: | yeah i got another one for one of the el-cheapo PVRs i put together, I'm going to play with Knoppmyth and MythDora see which one will install best on the new hardware |
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| [23:36:00] | jd86: | uuugh my lircd is segfaulting |
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| [23:46:00] | CygnusX1: | Is there a collective opionion on the best video card for composite TV-Out? (I have a TI4600 wasted in my Myth box that I cannot expand to fill the screen...I have lived with this for months, now, the fan is dying. I want to fix it right.) |
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| [23:46:00] | mofu: | what up dhofstra_?? |
| [23:46:00] | dhofstra_: | not alot, how are you? |
| [23:46:00] | dhofstra_: | havent been here for a while |
| [23:47:00] | mofu: | not too bad . . . |
| [23:47:00] | mofu: | on and off |
| [23:47:00] | mofu: | getting cold again, you know how it can be |
| [23:47:00] | dhofstra_: | I am just setting up myth on a PIII 600mhz cuz the xbox looks like it'll never run again with these damn debian dependancy problems |
| [23:48:00] | mofu: | want to try my Sarge packages?? need a guinea pig . . . |
| [23:49:00] | dhofstra_: | on the xbox? sure .. its dead as dead can be, so i dont care if it doesnt work |
| [23:49:00] | mofu: | is it sarge or unstable?? |
| [23:50:00] | dhofstra_: | how does yes answer that question... not well.. oh, i dunno, I can past the sources.list if that helps ya |
| [23:50:00] | mofu: | anyway: |
| [23:51:00] | mofu: | deb http://home.comcast.net/~zaphod/debian ./ |
| [23:51:00] | dhofstra_: | heh zaphod |
| [23:51:00] | mofu: | remove all other Myth apt sources . . . |
| [23:52:00] | mofu: | they are compiled from mdz's source packages against a straight Sarge install, you need marillat for lame |
| [23:52:00] | dhofstra_: | you sound like the teacher from charlie brown.... wha whaa whaa wha wha wa |
| [23:52:00] | mofu: | lol |
| [23:52:00] | ** dhofstra_ is a suse user ** | |
| [23:53:00] | mofu: | except the xbox evidently |
| [23:54:00] | dhofstra_: | lol |
| [23:54:00] | dhofstra_: | editing sources list now, and i now know what you mean by merrilat |
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| [23:55:00] | dhofstra_: | actually I can install mythtv, just not the plugins because of the renamed library |
| [23:55:00] | mofu: | oh, sorry, no plugins . . . . |
| [23:56:00] | dhofstra_: | heh |
| [23:56:00] | mofu: | maybe someday |
| [23:56:00] | dhofstra_: | thanks.. I actually use it more for dvd/video/music than for tv |
| [23:56:00] | dhofstra_: | the only problem is that debian renamed one of the libs |
| [23:56:00] | dhofstra_: | and it fails on that missing lib |
| [23:56:00] | mofu: | did you have to chip it? |
| [23:57:00] | dhofstra_: | no, softmod |
| [23:57:00] | mofu: | no nothing about xBox |
| [23:57:00] | dhofstra_: | it (xbox) isnt reallly that great for tv viewing IMHO |
| [23:57:00] | mofu: | know even |
| [23:58:00] | dhofstra_: | the navigation is slow and bringing up the osd makes the mpeg stream choppy |
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| [23:58:00] | mofu: | ech |
| [23:58:00] | dhofstra_: | but you can watch the hell out of a dvd collection, or play music with it.. nice frontend for a rarely used bedroom |
| [23:59:00] | dhofstra_: | mofu: i read about kubuntu, and tried that last night |
| [23:59:00] | mofu: | i have 2 mvp's |
| [23:59:00] | dhofstra_: | nice distro, but not enough pretty gui stuff for a suse user like me |
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