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[01:05:00] | trans_err: | where are recordings stored by default? |
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[01:10:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | in the recordings directory you specified in mythtv-setup... |
[01:10:00] | trans_err: | Captain_Murdoch: right, but mythtv is segfaulting and my / is filled |
[01:11:00] | trans_err: | so it isn't easy to check-- what is the default? |
[01:12:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | /mnt/store if you have that directory and didn't change it in setup. |
[01:12:00] | trans_err: | Captain_Murdoch: not there-- and that definetly wasn't the default |
[01:13:00] | trans_err: | at least not the one I was presented with |
[01:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | funny, the source code says it is. |
[01:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | static HostLineEdit *RecordFilePrefix() |
[01:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | { |
[01:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | HostLineEdit *gc = new HostLineEdit("RecordFilePrefix"); |
[01:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | gc->setLabel(QObject::tr("Directory to hold recordings")); |
[01:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | gc->setValue("/mnt/store/"); |
[01:13:00] | trans_err: | I never changed it-- and I certainly don't have a /mnt/store |
[01:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | knoppmyth? |
[01:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | lemme guess, package install ? |
[01:13:00] | trans_err: | GreyFoxx: yup, ubuntu |
[01:14:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | select * from settings where value = "RecordFilePrefix"; |
[01:14:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | or "locate .nuv" |
[01:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | then you might not get the real defaults if they try and set things up for you |
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[01:14:00] | trans_err: | /var/lib/mythtv — thanks CanadaBoy |
[01:15:00] | trans_err: | err Captain_Murdoch |
[01:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | they put your recordings in /var/lib ? wtf? not exactly one you would easily guess :) |
[01:15:00] | trans_err: | GreyFoxx: my problem exactly :D |
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[01:51:00] | simcop2387: | god gtk 2.8 is taking forever to compile |
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[01:56:00] | simcop2387: | yay its done, now to wait for mozilla 1.5 |
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[02:04:00] | \Grooby\: | is there a problem w/ mythtv and mysql 5? |
[02:06:00] | sphing: | theres a thread on the mailing list about that |
[02:06:00] | \Grooby\: | i read that I need to use SVN? |
[02:06:00] | \Grooby\: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . %205;#159933 |
[02:09:00] | simcop2387: | hey there blimbpy boy! flying through the air so fancy free |
[02:10:00] | _nero_: | I havent had much time to follow the lists the last few weeks.. anyone know if svn live-tv is working well now? Or is Isaac still working on it? |
[02:11:00] | \Grooby\: | gonna downgrade to mysql 4 for now |
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[02:25:00] | simcop2387: | _nero_: last i saw on the tracker the biggest parts of it were finished but it still had bugs? |
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[02:30:00] | Chutt: | i sent an email to the list last week with my 4 todo items for live-tv on it. |
[02:30:00] | Chutt: | if you don't use it _too_ much, it'll work fine. |
[02:31:00] | Chutt: | live tv -> scheduled recording doesn't work, hitting the 'toggle record' button doesn't do everything right for the current live program |
[02:31:00] | Chutt: | are the biggies |
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[02:35:00] | pmowry: | Just out of curiosity, does anyone watch live tv besides sports? finding alternative recording times has worked so well I'm about 20 hrs behind on things to watch. |
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[02:37:00] | poonj: | hey guys |
[02:37:00] | poonj: | is it possible to reduce the FPS of a video? |
[02:37:00] | poonj: | some type of filter? |
[02:38:00] | CyberKnet: | I can't imagine that looking good even if it is possible. |
[02:39:00] | pmowry: | why? store things like southpark and anime as small as possible? |
[02:39:00] | pmowry: | Not picking at you are anything, I really want to know what you are trying to do. |
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[02:40:00] | eidolon: | hmm. has anyone seen a problem where after a while a machine's left channel stops working (for mythmusic and other stuff)? a reboot fixes it. |
[02:41:00] | eidolon: | sounds like an 'edgy' sound card... but it's odd :) |
[02:41:00] | Chutt: | pmowry, only time i use live-tv is for making sure a tuner card is working. |
[02:43:00] | pmowry: | Chutt: same here :) |
[02:44:00] | _nero_: | thanks Chutt.. looking back through the emails.. |
[02:44:00] | _nero_: | I think I'll wait for a bit, as that is mostly what my wife uses.. :) |
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[02:49:00] | pmowry: | I'm just getting back to having multiple frontends again. If I could get Disney's toontown site to work on Linux I could convert my daughters machine as well and every desktop in the house would be running mythtv. |
[02:51:00] | pmowry: | I only have one backend with multiple PVR-x50 tuners run SVN from Saturday. So far everything is working great. I'll be adding a 2nd backend next month. |
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[02:56:00] | nullspin: | What is SVN? |
[02:56:00] | SqWaw: | subversion |
[02:56:00] | SqWaw: | its like cvs (conurrent version system) |
[02:57:00] | nullspin: | ok got it....so pmowry is running the most current version from saturday night. |
[02:57:00] | \Grooby\: | sexy virgin nymph |
[02:57:00] | nullspin: | ha |
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[02:59:00] | nullspin: | currently I have the pvr250 is there a video card with component out that is reccomended? |
[03:00:00] | pmowry: | I do not think I've ever run a "release" version. I needed the early csv versions to support a PVR-350, and have just stayed with the development versions ever since. |
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[03:01:00] | pmowry: | My slowest machine uses tv-out on a PVR-350. The rest are using lowent nVidia cards (Gforce MX4000 I think) with nvidia's driver. |
[03:01:00] | EnterUserName: | hi all |
[03:01:00] | EnterUserName: | question: Why does it automatically start to record |
[03:01:00] | EnterUserName: | when i watch tv |
[03:02:00] | nullspin: | I've built a few mythtv boxes just to play with. But i'm about to embark on the real deal. |
[03:02:00] | EnterUserName: | and its saved in the video libvrary |
[03:02:00] | nullspin: | Figured I would hang out in the forum for a few days to pick up on any current issues. |
[03:03:00] | pmowry: | live-tv records to disk, then plays back the recording to allow pause, rewind, etc. Not sure why it would appear in your video library. Mine writes to the same directory as recordings. |
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[03:05:00] | pmowry: | I believe where it is written is sett in the general section of mythtv-setup. |
[03:07:00] | pmowry: | nullspin: I like the hauppage PVR cards because of the hardware mpeg 2 encoding. I've read good things about the updated transcoder to cut commercials, but Ihave not used it. 30 second skip works fine for us. |
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[03:08:00] | pmowry: | I figured the $70 or so for the card was worth the consistant recording profiles and system performance. |
[03:09:00] | mishehu: | gah. I have some dvd's that for some reason xine isn't able to decss (even though I have libdvdread and libdvdcss 1.2.9 on the machine), yet vobcopy can. However, I would like to make an exact duplicate of the dvd. does anybody know a good way to do this? |
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[03:09:00] | pmowry: | no HDTV sources in my area, so I have not looked at those cards yet. |
[03:09:00] | nullspin: | yeah I got the 250 but I would like a card that can do component out. |
[03:10:00] | nullspin: | I wonder if there is a dvi to component option somewhere out there. |
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[03:13:00] | langetv: | anyone know what "decoder not alive, and trying to play" from mythfrontend? occurs when attempting to play mpeg2 media |
[03:13:00] | eidolon: | hey, will mythmusic support streaming audio stations sometime in the future? |
[03:14:00] | ghotiboy1: | anyone got VLC working on Windows from Mythweb? I have it working over a samba share, but I would really like to stream |
[03:14:00] | pmowry: | don't know, tv-out on the nVidia cards works for me, even the generic cards with nvidia chips (like Gainward cards). |
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[03:15:00] | pmowry: | eidolon: in SVN there is MFD and MFE, I believe they are still the plans for streaming. works great wtih itunes and network speakers. |
[03:15:00] | eidolon: | sorry... mfd and mfe? |
[03:16:00] | pmowry: | not sure what the initails are, but those are the names( i think) of the directories in svn. they work together. |
[03:17:00] | pmowry: | I have not looked at them in a while, I'll look for a discription. |
[03:18:00] | jemarcks: | has anybody secured mythweb on their backend? |
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[03:19:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i don't suppose its possible to get mythtv to run some arbitrary command when you close a plugin... say the media browinsg plugin |
[03:19:00] | jemarcks: | dont think so |
[03:22:00] | langetv: | i've secured mythweb with .htaccess |
[03:23:00] | nullspin: | time for me to crash. Thanks for insights. ns |
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[03:27:00] | eidolon: | hm |
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[03:40:00] | Taoron: | I have a Mini-ITX Epia M-1000 .. it says it has built in MPEG-2.. does that mean I can capture without additional hardware? |
[03:41:00] | _nero_: | Taoron- if I am not mistaken that is MPEG-2 Decoding, which means it can decode mpeg-2 on board (so you would still need some sort of encoding card to capture) |
[03:41:00] | Taoron: | ahh okay |
[03:45:00] | pmowry: | eidolon:anyone using mythstream (http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html)? it looks good for streaming audio, but has not been updated in a while (patched for 0.18 though). |
[03:46:00] | ** eidolon nods ** | |
[03:46:00] | eidolon: | i need to do a compelte svn build before i can look at add-ons. i'm still running against the latest knoppmyth. |
[03:47:00] | pmowry: | I can't find a good discription for mfd. Most of the work is done by thor. Reading the commit logs is all I can suggest to get a feal for what it does. |
[03:50:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | that would be XTREME |
[03:50:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | uPNP support... |
[03:50:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | (reading the Trac) |
[03:51:00] | eidolon: | mfd is the myth frontend daemon thingy, right? |
[03:51:00] | eidolon: | i'm -very very very very very- interested in that. |
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[03:51:00] | eidolon: | i want to write a over-the-net remote control for it. |
[03:51:00] | eidolon: | or a mythweb interface to it. |
[03:51:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i dont even know what upnp is, but it just sounds cool |
[03:51:00] | pmowry: | =) |
[03:52:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | multicast streaming |
[03:52:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | how cool is that... |
[03:52:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i once thought of doing a multicast stream in my dorm |
[03:53:00] | pmowry: | I'm off tomorrow, I'll compile mfd, and see if it can be a multicast music on hold source for asterisk or callmanager express. |
[03:56:00] | simcop2387: | Ginsu_Squirrel: can you cut through a car door then slice a tomato smoothly? |
[03:56:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i'm a ginsu shark |
[03:56:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | not a ginsu knife |
[03:56:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | but its ok, thats a common mistake |
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[03:57:00] | simcop2387: | your nick says squirrel |
[03:57:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | simcop2387: why yes |
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[03:57:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | see i'm half man, half shark, half squirrel |
[03:57:00] | simcop2387: | bull |
[03:57:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | lol |
[03:57:00] | simcop2387: | everyone knows that squirrels and sharks are mortal enemies |
[03:57:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | ROFL |
[03:57:00] | ** eidolon is still not sure what mfd does :) ** | |
[03:58:00] | simcop2387: | mfd? |
[03:58:00] | eidolon: | is it just for streaming? |
[03:58:00] | ** eidolon is reading commits. ** | |
[03:58:00] | simcop2387: | whats it stand for? |
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[04:00:00] | pmowry: | brb |
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[04:02:00] | simcop2387: | mfd appears to be the new manager of all of the plugins, metadata and the rest, to simplify/facilitate the new version of the frontend i think (i really don't know what the hell i'm talking about, but i think i remember talk of redoing the frontend for 0.20?) |
[04:02:00] | simcop2387: | i forget why i read that and where |
[04:02:00] | simcop2387: | i think its to increase stability too |
[04:05:00] | simcop2387: | i think it might also help doing the streaming without having access to each host filesystem (this would also allow the possibility of throwing MTD in the chain and transcoding/scaling the video to fit down certain pipes, e.g. 802.11 to a device with a smaller screen) |
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[04:17:00] | MaxPower: | i have a hauppauge pvr-500 and i can watch tv with either 'mplayer /dev/video0' or 'mplayer /dev/video1' but when i load mythtv, and click on watch tv it goes blank... any one have any ideas |
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[04:18:00] | dev-: | MaxPower: did you set input connections in mythtv-setup |
[04:19:00] | uSfella: | ok i have a question, how does mythtv switch channels on the directv box or cable tv box??? |
[04:19:00] | dev-: | irblaster or firewire/usb |
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[04:19:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | can myth play a unicast/multicast stream? |
[04:19:00] | MaxPower: | yea, but im not sure i set them up properly |
[04:19:00] | uSfella: | whats irblaster? |
[04:20:00] | dev-: | google it |
[04:20:00] | uSfella: | a ir cable? |
[04:20:00] | uSfella: | send ir signals? |
[04:20:00] | CyberKnet: | google it |
[04:20:00] | CyberKnet: | don't be lazy |
[04:20:00] | dev-: | Ginsu_Squirrel: myth doesnt really play anything other than its nuv files, mpeg2, all the video stuff is done by an external player like mplayer or xine. so whatever they can play. |
[04:20:00] | uSfella: | so if I want to record two different shows at the same time i need two directv boxes ?? |
[04:20:00] | MaxPower: | because it is a pvr-500 nad has two tuners its a little tough to figure toue |
[04:20:00] | CyberKnet: | give the man a prize |
[04:21:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | dev-: but can you easily tell it to play something like that thru the interface? |
[04:21:00] | uSfella: | dude seriously |
[04:21:00] | CyberKnet: | seriously. |
[04:21:00] | ** Ginsu_Squirrel kicks QT... compile faster ** | |
[04:21:00] | dev-: | Ginsu_Squirrel: you'd be better off creating a playlist file, think about it. |
[04:21:00] | uSfella: | just tell me due |
[04:21:00] | dev-: | uSfella: no |
[04:21:00] | uSfella: | i dont? i can record both shows with just 1 box? |
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[04:22:00] | dev-: | uSfella: no we wont tell you. |
[04:22:00] | uSfella: | asshole |
[04:22:00] | dev-: | =] |
[04:22:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | such language |
[04:22:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | and this person expects help? |
[04:22:00] | CyberKnet: | uSfella: You're asking basic questions, you haven't tried to help yourself. |
[04:22:00] | eidolon: | children, children. play nice. |
[04:23:00] | CyberKnet: | there's a nice link in the topic that will help you out immensely |
[04:23:00] | uSfella: | ive been reading on the site |
[04:23:00] | UBL: | uSfella, if you can use two tvs with one box, yea |
[04:23:00] | uSfella: | but i dont understand it |
[04:23:00] | uSfella: | well u cant :P |
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[04:23:00] | dev-: | ding ding. |
[04:24:00] | uSfella: | DING DING DING! |
[04:24:00] | uSfella: | what do I win |
[04:24:00] | uSfella: | seriously |
[04:24:00] | dev-: | we can only wish, a clue |
[04:24:00] | dev-: | ;p |
[04:24:00] | uSfella: | i hate you |
[04:25:00] | dev-: | nice thats a first for me |
[04:25:00] | uSfella: | im new to this whole dvr thing man :( |
[04:25:00] | CyberKnet: | uSfella: Its okay to be new at these things. |
[04:25:00] | uSfella: | NO ITS NOT |
[04:25:00] | uSfella: | MOM ALWAYS SAID NO ITS NOT |
[04:25:00] | CyberKnet: | uSfella: Just try to read the documents. |
[04:25:00] | uSfella: | lol |
[04:25:00] | uSfella: | k man thx |
[04:26:00] | uSfella: | i think ill just get a directv dvr |
[04:26:00] | langetv: | has anyone ever seen this error in mythfrontend logs : "decoder not alive, trying to play.." |
[04:26:00] | CyberKnet: | uSfella: There's a lot of good info on the web if you search in google. easy to find. |
[04:26:00] | uSfella: | google is not perfect |
[04:26:00] | dev-: | uSfella: questions you would ask in here right now, take the keywords of them, and put them in google. you'll find stuff. the mythtv.org docs are really good, and not too long. only a couple hours to read. and its worth a lot of info heh |
[04:27:00] | UBL: | probably a problem between keyboard and chair |
[04:27:00] | CyberKnet: | google "mythtv howto", "mythtv wiki", "mythtv directv" or anything. some REALLY good informative sites will come up. I guarantee it. |
[04:27:00] | CyberKnet: | Just try. |
[04:27:00] | uSfella: | ok can i ask one last question? |
[04:27:00] | uSfella: | pleasE? |
[04:27:00] | CyberKnet: | you can ask. |
[04:28:00] | uSfella: | can I control a Directv Box with a serial cable instead of a IR blaster? |
[04:29:00] | CyberKnet: | uSfella: "mythtv directv serial" |
[04:29:00] | uSfella: | for example like so http://www.dtvcontrol.com/index.aspx?content=cable |
[04:29:00] | CyberKnet: | go google that right now. |
[04:29:00] | UBL: | i use basic cable |
[04:29:00] | dev-: | i like basic cable |
[04:29:00] | uSfella: | i use directv |
[04:29:00] | dev-: | with all of it recording im up to my ears in tv :( |
[04:30:00] | dev-: | i rarely watch livetv. commercials just bug the hell out of me now ;p |
[04:30:00] | CyberKnet: | uSfella: go run that google search and tell me if it doesn't turn up the info you're looking for. |
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[04:30:00] | dev-: | so i just look in recordings mostly. with the 3 tuners recording crapp all the time there's always new tv to watch |
[04:33:00] | CyberKnet: | I only have two tuners going, but I rarely run out of things to watch. |
[04:33:00] | CyberKnet: | I can't remember the last time the hdd was empty. |
[04:34:00] | sona: | I would be so happy if I got ONE tuner to work with mythtv |
[04:35:00] | UBL: | :) |
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[04:35:00] | dev-: | though i think i will get a firewire card and play with the cable box with it.. got a machine in that room to do it. just need a card |
[04:35:00] | dev-: | would be cool to get the military channel on there hehe |
[04:36:00] | sona: | a blank screen and no error messages isnt much to go on ':/ |
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[04:36:00] | dev-: | sona: useing --verbose all ? |
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[04:36:00] | sona: | the frontend is waiting for mythbackend |
[04:36:00] | sona: | and never gets any video |
[04:37:00] | uSfella: | http://mediaportal.sourceforge.net/ |
[04:37:00] | sona: | epg works |
[04:37:00] | uSfella: | so much easier |
[04:37:00] | dev-: | sounds like it cant talk to the backend for some reason... is it running? maybe its locked up? configured wrong? |
[04:37:00] | uSfella: | fuck mythtv |
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[04:37:00] | sona: | :) |
[04:37:00] | dev-: | lol. what a tool. you can try setting up myth if you know nothing about linux, but it wont be as easy as if you did :) |
[04:38:00] | sona: | .Net Framework 2.0 |
[04:38:00] | sona: | fuck mediaportal then |
[04:38:00] | ** Cyberknet doesn't mind .Net Framework 2.0 ** | |
[04:38:00] | Cyberknet: | has a lot of nice new features over .NET Framework 1.1 and 1.0 |
[04:39:00] | Cyberknet: | ymmv |
[04:39:00] | sona: | how is the linux support ? |
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[04:39:00] | dev-: | does seem pretty neat |
[04:39:00] | dev-: | if i had any windows boxes heh |
[04:40:00] | Cyberknet: | I hear that mono is coming along nicely, but I haven't checked lately, and I'm pretty sure they're not even at 1.1 yet let alone 2.0 |
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[04:46:00] | EnterUserName: | hi all |
[04:46:00] | EnterUserName: | did they disable lirc in the svn version? |
[04:46:00] | EnterUserName: | recently.. its saying the input for lirc is set to no |
[04:47:00] | EnterUserName: | hello? |
[04:47:00] | Chutt: | have you seen a svn commit message saying that lirc was disabled? |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | no |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | when im tryign to configure |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | its saying lirc is not there |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | but it worked last time |
[04:48:00] | Chutt: | have you seen a svn commit message saying _anything_ about lirc? |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | umm |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | no |
[04:48:00] | dev-: | heh |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | i dont know where to look for that? |
[04:48:00] | Chutt: | then why would you think that something's changed? |
[04:48:00] | EnterUserName: | oh cuz the previous version it worked? |
[04:48:00] | Chutt: | uhm. |
[04:49:00] | EnterUserName: | heheh |
[04:49:00] | Chutt: | probably because you changed something else on your system? |
[04:49:00] | EnterUserName: | no |
[04:49:00] | EnterUserName: | i dont think anythings changed |
[04:49:00] | Chutt: | nothing's changed in svn. |
[04:49:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
[04:49:00] | EnterUserName: | is it possible it will work anyway? |
[04:49:00] | Chutt: | no. |
[04:49:00] | EnterUserName: | oh sigh |
[04:49:00] | EnterUserName: | what do i need in order for it to work |
[04:49:00] | Chutt: | i wouldn't know. |
[04:50:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
[04:50:00] | EnterUserName: | do i need some type of developer librarieS? |
[04:50:00] | Chutt: | for lirc? |
[04:50:00] | Chutt: | of course you do. |
[04:50:00] | EnterUserName: | eys |
[04:50:00] | EnterUserName: | well i compiled lirc cvs version |
[04:51:00] | EnterUserName: | where would i get those libraries? |
[04:51:00] | ** EnterUserName needs a bit of help here.. ** | |
[04:51:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
[04:51:00] | Chutt: | use a binary release. |
[04:51:00] | EnterUserName: | sigh |
[04:51:00] | EnterUserName: | the binary release thats available to me crashes :) |
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[04:52:00] | EnterUserName: | which is why i used cvs |
[04:53:00] | dev-: | maybe you could figure out why it crashes |
[04:53:00] | EnterUserName: | well the cvs version works :S |
[04:53:00] | EnterUserName: | i compiled the mythtv previously and its working fine.. |
[04:54:00] | EnterUserName: | with the new drivers... |
[04:54:00] | EnterUserName: | but for some reason itsr sayign input support |
[04:54:00] | EnterUserName: | lirc_support no |
[04:54:00] | EnterUserName: | :( |
[04:54:00] | EnterUserName: | is there anyway i can point it to the proper place? |
[04:55:00] | Chutt: | by installing the library + header file for it, sure. |
[04:55:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
[04:55:00] | EnterUserName: | Chutt: does that come with the source? |
[04:55:00] | EnterUserName: | or is it an external package |
[04:55:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
[04:55:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
[04:56:00] | Chutt: | geez |
[04:56:00] | EnterUserName: | so its there.. |
[04:56:00] | dev-: | for all this time you spent asking questions |
[04:56:00] | dev-: | ah nevermind |
[04:56:00] | dev-: | its not worth it lol |
[04:56:00] | Chutt: | really, if you don't know what you're compiling, you should be using packages. |
[04:58:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
[04:58:00] | EnterUserName: | its just odd cuz i have the headers in /usr/local/lirc |
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[05:02:00] | pyrotech: | does anyone use mythtv with hdtv from a cable company? |
[05:02:00] | pyrotech: | or is this even possible? |
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[05:25:00] | Exiles: | anyone here using FreeBSD and Nvidia? |
[05:27:00] | Brixius: | Anyone running knoppmyth? I have a question on using the frontend part of it |
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[05:29:00] | sona: | just ask |
[05:34:00] | Brixius: | I'm tring to run mythtv frontend via knoppmyth, I have specified the server that is the myth backend, which records correctly and I am able to playback shows using winmyth. But mythfrontend is saying it was told to create a new database schema |
[05:34:00] | ** Brixius is somewhat of a noob at myth but experienced with linux ** | |
[05:36:00] | Brixius: | mythfrontend fails saying there is allready 70 tables, and to verivy the settings table has the DBSchemaVar varable. |
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[05:49:00] | xanderp: | i just installed another HD in my backend, but there's a partition on it. I don't remember what filesystem it had on it, but would like to look at it to make sure it doesn't have anything useful on it before i wipe it. It won't let me -t auto for the type, and i've tried several filesystem types to no avail... is there a way to query to see what linux thinks it could be? |
[05:51:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | cfdisk |
[05:51:00] | Brixius: | xanderp: I'd use fdisk and print the partition table out that's on it, most likely you don't have NTFS filesystem installed into the kernel |
[05:51:00] | xanderp: | thanks guys... i was just screwing up the mount command, I got it... thanks though |
[05:52:00] | xanderp: | (wasn't putting partition # on the /dev/hdd |
[05:55:00] | Brixius: | how can I find out where myth is expecting themes to be installed? |
[05:56:00] | dev-: | i saw that poking around the settings table in the database |
[05:56:00] | dev-: | look there |
[05:56:00] | Brixius: | k thanks |
[05:56:00] | xanderp: | i'm reading the howto's for LVM and think i'm getting more stupid the more i read... |
[05:57:00] | dev-: | mail call is such a great show |
[05:57:00] | Brixius: | lvm, hmm, I remember having a 1 week class on that back about 6 years ago on hp9000's |
[05:57:00] | Brixius: | havn't used it much since |
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[05:58:00] | xanderp: | i'm wanting to setup my recording directory to span over 3 drives |
[06:02:00] | _nero_: | xanderp, http://home.comcast.net/~alf_park/mythtv.html section 11. Very useful if you have gentoo, but still useful if you dont.. |
[06:03:00] | xanderp: | i'm using gentoo... thanks |
[06:03:00] | _nero_: | that should help quite a bit then. :) |
[06:04:00] | _nero_: | off to bed.. zzzzz.. |
[06:04:00] | NightMonkey: | _nero_: That's the guide I used in 8/04. Worked great for me then. Some things have changed, however. I think the lirc part is very out of date. |
[06:05:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | i still dont understand why things like mplayer and mythtv bundle libavcodec and friends |
[06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Ginsu_Squirrel, aint it a useflag you can specify? |
[06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | IIRC your a gentoo user |
[06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | unless your using somebody elses nick :) |
[06:10:00] | SqWaw: | will making a lvm out of a partition that already has a bit of data on it cause data corruption? |
[06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SqWaw, I used LVM it rocks :) |
[06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | once I figured out how to do it hehe |
[06:11:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | SlicerDicer-: no... |
[06:11:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | SlicerDicer-: and that has nothing to do with my question |
[06:11:00] | SqWaw: | SlicerDicer-, but my /media partition already has a few recordings, if i convert it to lvm, will it become corrupt |
[06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SqWaw, well what I did was cloned my computer to a drive that was setup for LVM |
[06:12:00] | SqWaw: | oh |
[06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then all the data was there how it needed to be on the LVM partition |
[06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then turned the original drive into a LVM addon |
[06:12:00] | SqWaw: | i c |
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[06:21:00] | jams: | EnterUserName--- anything greater then .72 of lirc causes the problems you described. |
[06:22:00] | EnterUserName: | huh? |
[06:22:00] | EnterUserName: | Well I found sorta the reason its complaining about a syntax error in the cvs snapshot pre8.01 |
[06:22:00] | EnterUserName: | lirc_client.h |
[06:22:00] | EnterUserName: | so i guess im stuck using the version that i have until i either get a new cvs o |
[06:23:00] | EnterUserName: | or go backto the previous version |
[06:23:00] | jams: | that's what i'm saying .7.2 works anything greater and it doesnt |
[06:23:00] | EnterUserName: | oh |
[06:23:00] | EnterUserName: | darn |
[06:24:00] | EnterUserName: | well maybe i'll recompile the old version maybe its the way suse compiled it why its giving me issues |
[06:24:00] | EnterUserName: | thanx jams for the info |
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[06:24:00] | jams: | found that out this weekend :) |
[06:24:00] | EnterUserName: | lol |
[06:24:00] | EnterUserName: | but it looks sinmp0le to fix |
[06:24:00] | EnterUserName: | if its a syntax error :) |
[06:24:00] | EnterUserName: | come on !! Why can't i see the syntax error ;) |
[06:25:00] | jams: | could be..didn't bother looking into it |
[06:25:00] | EnterUserName: | is anyoen else having crashes with lirc? using 7.2 for pvr-150? |
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[06:26:00] | ** jams doesn't use a 150 ** | |
[06:26:00] | EnterUserName: | jams heres what works |
[06:26:00] | EnterUserName: | compile it using 7.2 |
[06:26:00] | EnterUserName: | and then switch back to pre |
[06:26:00] | EnterUserName: | it works |
[06:27:00] | EnterUserName: | thats what i did by accident |
[06:27:00] | EnterUserName: | my lirc is worknig fine |
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[06:28:00] | jams: | sure but next time you compile myth you will have to switch back |
[06:28:00] | EnterUserName: | yup |
[06:28:00] | jams: | seems easier to stay with .7.2 |
[06:28:00] | EnterUserName: | maybe i can use the old include file |
[06:29:00] | EnterUserName: | sure thats not a problem if it dont crash on me :) |
[06:30:00] | EnterUserName: | well it appears 7.2 doesnt like suse.. |
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[06:31:00] | l00pdee: | i only have broadcast, no cable, is mythtv good to use wit that? (i know i am deprived) |
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[06:32:00] | EnterUserName: | well gee |
[06:32:00] | EnterUserName: | it works |
[06:33:00] | EnterUserName: | using the old c file. |
[06:33:00] | jams: | l00pdee it will work fine |
[06:33:00] | EnterUserName: | a little expierment it may crash though :) |
[06:33:00] | jams: | just don't expect it to adjust the rabbit ears |
[06:33:00] | l00pdee: | im on the web site checking out the documentation before i download |
[06:33:00] | l00pdee: | jams: lol |
[06:33:00] | EnterUserName: | jams: You may be able to get away with usign there old lirc_client version |
[06:34:00] | EnterUserName: | with the cvs version |
[06:34:00] | l00pdee: | i just got the ati drivers installed and seems to be working , though i have an old bttv device in this system |
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[06:34:00] | jams: | EnterUserName, not really concerned about it. I was just playing around |
[06:34:00] | EnterUserName: | lol i have to do ti |
[06:34:00] | EnterUserName: | cuz suse doesnt like the 0.7.2 version |
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[06:51:00] | EnterUserName: | testing... am i igfnored :) |
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[07:29:00] | poonj: | it took me 18 hrs to trancode a file to divx |
[07:29:00] | poonj: | damn my computer is slow |
[07:31:00] | xris: | that's quite slow |
[07:32:00] | xris: | depending on how long the recording is, etc. |
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[07:35:00] | Led-Hed: | xris, you're up late |
[07:38:00] | xris: | not for long. |
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[07:42:00] | cwsmith: | is there a way to reset things to default in myfrontend if you need to without loading frontend :) |
[07:45:00] | Led-Hed: | mythtv setup will ask you to reset the program info and Capture Card settings. Not sure if thats what you are looking for |
[07:53:00] | cwsmith: | hmm let me try |
[07:53:00] | cwsmith: | cause right now its locking up when i try to run mythfrontend |
[07:54:00] | cwsmith: | it just loads the like 100% stuff after that hard lock of whole box |
[07:54:00] | cwsmith: | i will try will let you guys know ;) |
[07:55:00] | cwsmith: | i dont think it did is there a way to reset the frontend setup to default ? |
[07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody use mythvideo with pvr350? |
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[08:07:00] | Led-Hed: | SlicerDicer-: I do |
[08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Led-Hed, do videos play right? |
[08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or how do you play them? |
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[08:08:00] | Led-Hed: | I dont use the TV out |
[08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh |
[08:08:00] | cwsmith: | anyone ever have mythfrontend |
[08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I do |
[08:08:00] | cwsmith: | freeze when you try to run it |
[08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cwsmith, I was about to say |
[08:09:00] | cwsmith: | lol its a hard freeze |
[08:09:00] | cwsmith: | like no ctl alt delete or bksp |
[08:09:00] | cwsmith: | or anything |
[08:09:00] | Led-Hed: | cwsmith: run the frontend with loggin enabled |
[08:09:00] | Led-Hed: | logging |
[08:09:00] | cwsmith: | whats command ? |
[08:09:00] | cwsmith: | #mythfrontend logging :) |
[08:10:00] | Led-Hed: | oh man, its been a long time.... check the mailing list archive at Gossamer |
[08:10:00] | cwsmith: | k will do :) |
[08:10:00] | cwsmith: | i will let ya know :) |
[08:11:00] | Led-Hed: | you run it from the command line set it to verbose I think |
[08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mythfrontend --help perhaps? |
[08:11:00] | ** SlicerDicer- never tried it but assumes it may work ** | |
[08:11:00] | Led-Hed: | give'r a try |
[08:12:00] | cwsmith: | lol |
[08:12:00] | cwsmith: | good idea lbo :) |
[08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | whats the worst that could h appen? |
[08:13:00] | Led-Hed: | it could hard lock. but thats already happening. ;p |
[08:13:00] | cwsmith: | lol |
[08:13:00] | cwsmith: | hard luck |
[08:13:00] | Led-Hed: | bad luck, is the only luck I have |
[08:14:00] | cwsmith: | ya like me trying to get a good clear image comparabe to my dishnetwork reciever |
[08:14:00] | cwsmith: | nothing but crap on a pvr-350 |
[08:14:00] | cwsmith: | and no settings work so found a post on goss with great quality mx 4000 so trying that |
[08:14:00] | cwsmith: | however not that i switched back to non pvr350 output freaking freeze problem |
[08:15:00] | Led-Hed: | cwsmith: the trick is to get xvmc working then it'll be clear like Tivo or DishDVR |
[08:15:00] | cwsmith: | so is that a simple thing on the pvr350 |
[08:15:00] | cwsmith: | like it sucks the freaking dvd playback is like crystal clear |
[08:16:00] | cwsmith: | but no tv is like fuzzy and like distored and ...... |
[08:16:00] | cwsmith: | and like horizontal lines ect .... |
[08:17:00] | Led-Hed: | ya my DVD playback is perfect also. its an interlacing issue. Enable OpenGL VSync and XVMC along with DeInterlacing set to Kernel and you should be good... |
[08:18:00] | Led-Hed: | I beat my head against a wall for a year trying to get it all working right. then 0.18.1 came out so I installed it on FC4 and all my troubles went away. XVMC & OpenGL VSync are now just toggles in the setup. Nice and easy |
[08:19:00] | cwsmith: | ya |
[08:19:00] | cwsmith: | i am running new box with FC4 as well |
[08:19:00] | Led-Hed: | its a little bloated, but is the best release since FC1 |
[08:21:00] | cwsmith: | ya |
[08:21:00] | cwsmith: | but your picture running svid i am assuming is like crystal clear ? |
[08:21:00] | Led-Hed: | SlicerDicer-: what distro you using? |
[08:21:00] | Led-Hed: | cwsmith: 98% as clear as my ReplayTV/Tivo |
[08:25:00] | cwsmith: | so like do you have a big screen ? |
[08:26:00] | Led-Hed: | getting a 50" plasma for christmas. Its good to be the Santa |
[08:27:00] | cwsmith: | lol i am pretty sure i had all the set and it was like still alittle non interlaced or something it was wierd lol |
[08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Led-Hed, gentoo |
[08:28:00] | Led-Hed: | well if you were using Fedora I know the Jarod Wilson MythTV HowTo covers the pvr-350 in detail. With gentoo I dont know. But the info may still be usefull... |
[08:29:00] | Led-Hed: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#video |
[08:29:00] | Led-Hed: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php?SID& . . . open#capture |
[08:30:00] | Led-Hed: | the driver install will most likely be different but the configuration should be similar... |
[08:30:00] | Led-Hed: | night all, gotta get some sleep.... |
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[09:43:00] | juski: | mornin' |
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[09:50:00] | martoss: | hi there |
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[09:51:00] | martoss: | dvb-t scanning is not working, other dvb-t apps are working. Is there any trick or way I can find out, what mythtv does wrong? |
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[10:14:00] | juski: | martoss: it's more likely that you didn't give mythtv a transponder to start from. I have problems doing a full scan, but if I give it an initial transponder (I get the parameters from a channels.conf grabbed using scan) it works |
[10:20:00] | martoss: | it seems to be a similar problem. If i set all parameters by hand, then I get a lock, but just on one bouquet |
[10:21:00] | martoss: | another thing, that is a little bit confusing to me is that all the channels, i was asked through this epg scan vial xmltv are also there, although not working. |
[10:21:00] | martoss: | how can I properly "link" those channels to the ones found by xmlscan? |
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[12:48:00] | Hoxzer: | I have two problems: My Mythbox won't auto get ip from DCHP and I dunno how to edit mysql |
[12:48:00] | Hoxzer: | manually |
[12:49:00] | laga: | can you elaborate, plase? |
[12:49:00] | laga: | please* |
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[12:52:00] | Hoxzer: | laga: did you say that to me? |
[12:52:00] | laga: | yep |
[12:53:00] | Hoxzer: | I have been having hard time in school like a month |
[12:53:00] | Hoxzer: | so I haven't done almost anything with my box |
[12:54:00] | Hoxzer: | but somebody said me that I can try to edit mysql manually |
[12:55:00] | laga: | yep, you can do it. i prefer phpmyadmin, it's a nice frontend to mysql. however, you have to have a working apache install |
[13:04:00] | KaZeR: | hey folks |
[13:05:00] | laga: | hi KaZeR |
[13:05:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, what do you want to edit in mysql? we can help you |
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[13:22:00] | Hoxzer_: | hi :D again |
[13:23:00] | Hoxzer_: | so that guy said me that he fixed my problem by going in to mysql and editing xmltv_ids in there |
[13:23:00] | Hoxzer_: | and setting them same as tv_grab_fi returns |
[13:24:00] | Hoxzer_: | any ideas how do I do that? |
[13:24:00] | Hoxzer_: | or should I email to him and ask |
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[13:27:00] | Xenna: | use mythweb to edit those fields |
[13:29:00] | Hoxzer_: | is it browser for mythtv? |
[13:29:00] | Xenna: | click on teh configuration icon and then on 'channels' |
[13:29:00] | Hoxzer_: | wait a sec |
[13:29:00] | Hoxzer_: | tell me exacly what should I do |
[13:29:00] | Xenna: | nope, i'm wrong |
[13:29:00] | Hoxzer_: | like step by step |
[13:29:00] | Xenna: | it's not there sorry |
[13:30:00] | Hoxzer_: | tell me at least how to acces to the mysql |
[13:30:00] | Hoxzer_: | by mythweb or mozzilla |
[13:30:00] | Xenna: | from a terminal prompt: |
[13:30:00] | Xenna: | mysql mythconverg |
[13:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | ok I did it |
[13:32:00] | Hoxzer_: | Eh, I dont see any icons :E |
[13:32:00] | Xenna: | select * from channel; |
[13:33:00] | Hoxzer_: | Only thing I see is mysql> in stead of niko> |
[13:33:00] | Xenna: | forget about the mythweb suggestion, it's not in there |
[13:33:00] | Xenna: | type |
[13:33:00] | Hoxzer_: | :D |
[13:33:00] | Xenna: | select * from channel; |
[13:33:00] | Xenna: | quit |
[13:33:00] | Xenna: | oeps |
[13:33:00] | Hoxzer_: | ? |
[13:33:00] | Hoxzer_: | I cant select anything |
[13:34:00] | Xenna: | this is too difficult for you |
[13:35:00] | Xenna: | phpmyadmin is probably the best suggestion |
[13:35:00] | Xenna: | personally I' |
[13:35:00] | Xenna: | ve used msaccess over myodbc as well |
[13:35:00] | Hoxzer_: | :D |
[13:35:00] | Xenna: | but it's all complicetde |
[13:36:00] | Xenna: | and requires some experience with mysql |
[13:36:00] | Hoxzer_: | everybody is just saying me to do this and that but no telling how to |
[13:36:00] | Xenna: | sorry |
[13:38:00] | Xenna: | fact is that myth requires a fair degree of experience to set up |
[13:38:00] | Xenna: | i've been using linux for > 10 years and i've been working on it for 2 weeks |
[13:38:00] | Xenna: | and it's still not quite right :( |
[13:39:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: in /usr/share/xmltv/ or somewhere else should be a file called channel_ids or something like that. if you can't find it, look for the config file of your grabber (either in ~/.xmltv/ or in ~./mythtv/) |
[13:39:00] | Xenna: | i've had to resort to editing the sql data manually a few times |
[13:40:00] | Hoxzer_: | cd /usr/share/xmltv/ |
[13:40:00] | Hoxzer_: | :D sry |
[13:42:00] | Xenna: | I especially liked what happened when I changed the hostname of my machine ;) |
[13:42:00] | Hoxzer_: | I found tv_grab_fi.conf |
[13:43:00] | Hoxzer_: | do you mean it? |
[13:44:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: probably. |
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[13:45:00] | Hoxzer_: | I checked it with nano and I didnt see anything in it |
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[13:47:00] | Hoxzer_: | should there be something? |
[13:47:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: i don't know. i can only tell you that there's a file for my german grabber which has all the xmltv ids |
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[13:52:00] | Hoxzer_: | I also have channels.conf in my home directory |
[13:52:00] | Hoxzer_: | it has something in it |
[13:52:00] | laga: | xmltv-ids are made up by the xmltv-project ;) (following some rules) |
[13:53:00] | laga: | they have nothing to do with the channels.conf file |
[13:53:00] | Hoxzer_: | like TV1: 100020301:inversion auto:3213213:FEC_none:3213:3213 |
[13:53:00] | Hoxzer_: | something like that |
[13:56:00] | Hoxzer_: | I also have DVB.xmltv in .mythv |
[13:56:00] | Hoxzer_: | it has the names of the channels but there is no numbers |
[13:56:00] | laga: | can you give me an example? |
[14:00:00] | Hoxzer_: | ok |
[14:00:00] | Hoxzer_: | channel 1 TV 1 |
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[14:01:00] | Hoxzer_: | I thin it has only the channel numbers but not any codes |
[14:02:00] | Hoxzer_: | *think |
[14:05:00] | Hoxzer_: | should it have channel pids like channels.conf? |
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[14:20:00] | Hoxzer_: | :E Im afraid I have to try mythdora or something else since I dont get any help |
[14:20:00] | Hoxzer_: | I just want to set xmltv ids in mysql to same as tv_grab_fi --list-channels returns |
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[14:21:00] | juski: | what's up with this channel today? been forced out a couple of times alredy. I might even take the hint soon |
[14:22:00] | dev-: | 07:51 -:- SignOff juski: #mythtv-users (Read error: 110 (Connection timed |
[14:22:00] | dev-: | out)) |
[14:22:00] | dev-: | try a different server |
[14:23:00] | juski: | maybe later. thanks for the suggestion though |
[14:24:00] | Hoxzer_: | do you guys think I should go for mythdora? |
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[14:25:00] | dev-: | juski: probably fine now since you tined out at 5:30am and 7:50am, but its 9:30 am ;p that or a connection problem. but noones bootin ya from the channel :) |
[14:26:00] | johbrahms: | Hi there – sorry this isn't really a mythtv question, but perhaps you guys can help with writing a dvdauthor xml file? |
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[14:27:00] | johbrahms: | I keep getting an error: "That form of jumping is not allowed" |
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[14:29:00] | Hoxzer_: | I keep getting an error: error no pids set please correct your channel setup |
[14:31:00] | Snow-Man: | With a bttv-based card which has a tuner and an svideo; can you use both at the same time? |
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[14:40:00] | ** eidolon yawns. ** | |
[14:40:00] | eidolon: | mornin. |
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[14:43:00] | Hoxzer_: | eidolon: guess what |
[14:43:00] | Hoxzer_: | I have a problem |
[14:43:00] | Hoxzer_: | well I wil try mythdora |
[14:43:00] | Hoxzer_: | :D |
[14:45:00] | Hoxzer_: | thats my plan |
[14:45:00] | Hoxzer_: | mythdora and -> test |
[14:45:00] | Hoxzer_: | hopefully everything will go as easy as they say |
[14:46:00] | Hoxzer_: | 'just install it and run mythtv-setup and channel scan -> everything works ' |
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[15:07:00] | simcop2387: | i want 0.19 already! ... heh |
[15:08:00] | poop: | 0.18.1 that bad, eh? |
[15:10:00] | simcop2387: | no 0.19 is that good |
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[15:11:00] | eidolon: | heh |
[15:12:00] | eidolon: | so, anyone use the hauppage remote that comes with the wmc pvr150? |
[15:12:00] | eidolon: | i'm considering arguing with lirc today to get it working. |
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[15:13:00] | sona: | I've done that for 2 weeks now |
[15:13:00] | sona: | gl hf m8 |
[15:13:00] | eidolon: | sorry? |
[15:13:00] | laga: | "good luck have fun mate". he's been playing too much counterstrike lately ;) |
[15:13:00] | eidolon: | i see. :) |
[15:13:00] | eidolon: | i need to finish this blog post, then i'll work on it. |
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[15:14:00] | eidolon: | i want to use the 'play music' views on the machine, but it's *points* way over there. zo... |
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[15:18:00] | eidolon: | interesting. i have /dev/lirc, the ~mythtv/.lircrc is set up for the pvr150 silver remote. |
[15:19:00] | dev-: | but /dev/lirc is a directory. |
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[15:20:00] | eidolon: | dbs@mythtv:/home/mythtv$ ls -ldt /dev/lirc |
[15:20:00] | eidolon: | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 Sep 25 03:01 /dev/lirc |
[15:20:00] | eidolon: | so you think? :) |
[15:20:00] | dev-: | what version of lirc are you useing? |
[15:20:00] | eidolon: | er. |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | 0.7.2pvr150 |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | warning: knoppmyth. :) |
[15:21:00] | dev-: | ah fuckit ;p |
[15:21:00] | dev-: | never ran it ;p |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | huh |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | dmesg | grep -i lirc: |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | lirc_pvr150: firmware of size 209327 loaded |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | lirc_pvr150: 575 codesets loaded |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | lirc_pvr150: Hauppauge PVR-150 IR blaster: firmware version 1.3.0 |
[15:21:00] | eidolon: | so... this should just be working. |
[15:22:00] | ** eidolon goes to fiddle. ** | |
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[15:23:00] | kev_: | so i recently re-installed mythtv (0.18) on an ubuntu machine. i was previously running the 0.17 of myth. with the new version the auto adjust after sticky rewind or fastword (ie, after fastforrwarding and hitting play it auto-jumps back a few seconds allowing for my eye->hand reaction time) doesn't work correctly: at times it will jump back 10 or more minutes. does anyone else have this issue? |
[15:25:00] | eidolon: | course, atm, i can find either my remote NOR the IR receiver. |
[15:25:00] | ** eidolon sighs and digs. ** | |
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[16:08:00] | eidolon: | hm. is there a way to test if lirc is working? like cat /dev/lirc ? |
[16:08:00] | eidolon: | i just want to make sure it's receiving. |
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[16:11:00] | Jelte: | hi there... when myth is recording something, it shows under Recorded Programs on mythweb ... but can i stop the recording, and delete it from there as well? can't work out how... |
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[16:14:00] | eidolon: | dang. 'mode2' isn't showing anything :( |
[16:15:00] | eidolon: | i definately used a remote that works (i pointed it at my stereo, it answered) |
[16:19:00] | eidolon: | the lirc should respond to -any- IR signal, shouldn't it? (running 'mode2' ?) |
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[16:21:00] | ViViD: | im having trouble getting my backend to start on bootup |
[16:21:00] | ViViD: | the command is issued at runlevel to, with no errors, but after i log in, its not running |
[16:22:00] | ViViD: | i have to start it manually after every log-in |
[16:22:00] | eidolon: | do you have mythbackedn in /etc/init.d/ and have it symlinked from the proper rc dir? |
[16:23:00] | ViViD: | yea at runlevel 2 the system runs /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
[16:23:00] | ViViD: | i get the output Starting MythTv Server: mythbackend |
[16:24:00] | ViViD: | and after it finishes booting, and i log in and run mythfrontend, it says its not on |
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[16:24:00] | ViViD: | after login i can start it with either mythbackend as any user, or /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start as root |
[16:25:00] | ViViD: | and it works fine, im guessing something is turning it off...? |
[16:26:00] | juski: | eidolon: you can try cat /dev/lirc |
[16:26:00] | eidolon: | juski: is that any different than running mode2? |
[16:26:00] | juski: | or whatever your lirc device is called ;) |
[16:26:00] | eidolon: | it's /dev/lirc... |
[16:27:00] | eidolon: | i'm wondering if the cable is even connected securely. that mini-jack is pretty flimsy :( |
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[16:27:00] | ViViD: | what is the current version of mythtv? |
[16:27:00] | laga: | 0.18.1 |
[16:28:00] | eidolon: | juski: catting still shows nothing. |
[16:28:00] | ViViD: | how can i see my version? |
[16:29:00] | mishehu: | bah. |
[16:29:00] | laga: | ViViD: mythfrontend --version |
[16:29:00] | ViViD: | laga: is the current version fairly stable? |
[16:29:00] | laga: | ViViD: you mean, 0.18.1? |
[16:29:00] | ViViD: | yea |
[16:30:00] | laga: | ViViD: it works fine for many people. |
[16:30:00] | eidolon: | hah. a cautious statement :)( |
[16:30:00] | eidolon: | i thought livetv was broken? |
[16:30:00] | eidolon: | or is that svn? |
[16:30:00] | ViViD: | livetv as in normal watching of tv? |
[16:30:00] | laga: | svn. |
[16:30:00] | ViViD: | mythtv features are fully functional for me in version 0.18.1.20050510–1 |
[16:31:00] | juski: | broken as in 'was disabled' |
[16:31:00] | laga: | all core functionalities work in 0.18.1. 0.18.1 is actually the fixes branch, check www.mythtv.org for more details (frontpage) |
[16:31:00] | mishehu: | I can't believe I own 3 dvd movies that I have to rip in order to watch... |
[16:31:00] | ViViD: | only problem i have is the backend wont start up during the boot process |
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[16:31:00] | juski: | mishehu: where did you get that impression from? just use xine |
[16:31:00] | juski: | or mplayer.. or ogle. or vlc |
[16:32:00] | ViViD: | mplayer and vlc i think have better codec support |
[16:32:00] | juski: | who needs 'codec' support when you're playing DVDs? |
[16:33:00] | juski: | they all play dvd just fine, though mplayer can't do menus |
[16:33:00] | ViViD: | what if they rip those dvds into divx/xvid? |
[16:33:00] | juski: | I play my divx & xvid rips just fine in xine |
[16:33:00] | ViViD: | mine come through w/no sound |
[16:33:00] | juski: | probably no ac3 codec installed |
[16:33:00] | juski: | never worries me – I use ac3 passthru |
[16:34:00] | ViViD: | they are xvid/mp3 cbr 160 |
[16:34:00] | juski: | try vlc media player then |
[16:34:00] | ViViD: | yea thats what ive been using |
[16:34:00] | ViViD: | but i still have to transfer the media from the server to this pc for them to play correctly |
[16:36:00] | ViViD: | is there a way i can start the backend with the mythbackend -d command at startup? |
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[16:36:00] | eidolon: | juski: any heads up when livetv will be ready again? i'm gonna do some coding on mythweb which means i'll need to be running svn, and not having livetv is gonna be a damper :) |
[16:37:00] | ViViD: | what do you mean by 'livetv'? |
[16:37:00] | eidolon: | er. livetv. "Watch tv" <enter> :) |
[16:37:00] | ViViD: | normal tv watching? |
[16:37:00] | laga: | eidolon: livetv is ready. imho. |
[16:37:00] | eidolon: | laga: *nod* |
[16:37:00] | laga: | eidolon: if you're talking about isaac fiddling with it. |
[16:37:00] | eidolon: | HEY! |
[16:37:00] | eidolon: | i'm getting lirc commands! |
[16:38:00] | ViViD: | i use tvtime for viewing tv, but myth has a handy recording and scheduling system |
[16:38:00] | eidolon: | either the cable was loose or the external transmitter / receiver -must- be plugged into the card on bootup. |
[16:47:00] | ViViD: | can i make a script that runs 'mythbackend -d' via shell at runlevel 2? |
[16:48:00] | eidolon: | that's what /etc/init.d/mythbackend does. |
[16:48:00] | eidolon: | that is a shell script. |
[16:48:00] | ViViD: | its not working :/, says it is on bootup, but after login, backend isnt running |
[16:48:00] | eidolon: | iff it's not starting, you need to look at your output in dmesg or the like and see if there's errors there. if theres not, then something is not starting. |
[16:49:00] | eidolon: | did you look in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log to see why it wasn't starting? |
[16:49:00] | ViViD: | on boot i see this after mysqld starts 'Starting MythTV Server: mythbackend' |
[16:49:00] | eidolon: | bully for you. |
[16:49:00] | eidolon: | did you look at the log file? |
[16:49:00] | eidolon: | working with myth is all about reading log files. |
[16:49:00] | ViViD: | nope, im kinda new to linux, didnt know that was there |
[16:50:00] | eidolon: | did you look at the startup script at all? |
[16:50:00] | eidolon: | it has, quite clearly, this line: |
[16:50:00] | ViViD: | well i managed to get everything working |
[16:50:00] | eidolon: | ARGS="--daemon --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid" |
[16:50:00] | mirak: | when the music's over |
[16:50:00] | ViViD: | yea i tried to edit iit some, but what i tried didnt work |
[16:50:00] | eidolon: | don't edit. |
[16:50:00] | eidolon: | look. |
[16:50:00] | mishehu: | juski: I've been using xine + libdvdcss for years. I own 3 dvds that will not play with xine, even with libdvdcss 1.2.9. if I rip them, however, using dvdbackup, I can play them. |
[16:50:00] | ViViD: | yea, ive been |
[16:51:00] | eidolon: | if you don't know linux, don't try to write scripts until you understand what's happening. |
[16:51:00] | mishehu: | all my other dvds work fine. |
[16:51:00] | eidolon: | mishehu: huh. do you get a 'no decoder' error? |
[16:51:00] | ViViD: | i think ive got it figured out pretty much, cept for why it seems to be starting, yet not starting |
[16:51:00] | eidolon: | cuz ripping is just decoding them... does vlc view them? |
[16:51:00] | eidolon: | ViViD: in this entire time you've been going on about it not starting, have you looked at the logfile? |
[16:54:00] | eidolon: | YAYA! lirc is working! i have a functional remote! |
[16:54:00] | ViViD: | what is 'QSettings: error creating /.qt'? |
[16:54:00] | eidolon: | sounds like an error. |
[16:54:00] | eidolon: | more likely, it sounds like you have a permissiosn problem. |
[16:54:00] | ViViD: | i need to give user mythtv access to that file? |
[16:55:00] | ViViD: | i dont get it, cuz i dont get that error when i start it after ive logged in |
[16:56:00] | ViViD: | im going to delete this log and restart |
[16:56:00] | ViViD: | theres too much stuff in it from what ive already fixed to find whats wrong now |
[16:57:00] | mishehu: | eidolon: no, it fails to extract the proper css key from the disc |
[16:57:00] | mishehu: | eidolon: gives me "this disc appears to be encrypted blah blah blah" |
[16:57:00] | eidolon: | huh. suck. |
[16:57:00] | mishehu: | yeah, I don't know why it would fail on 3 discs but all the rest play fine. |
[16:57:00] | ViViD: | ill be back in a minute |
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[16:57:00] | Beirdo: | dumbass client |
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[17:02:00] | juski: | this channel has been chock full of positivity the last few days |
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[17:03:00] | juski: | must be the weather or something ;) |
[17:05:00] | ** Beirdo is tired of the cold already ** | |
[17:07:00] | juski: | see yous on the other side... |
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[17:13:00] | ViViD: | ok this is my log output from bootup |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | sorry for any spam |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | QSettings: error creating /.qt |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.773 New DB connection, total: 1 |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.804 Unable to connect to database! |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.815 Driver error was [1/1045]: |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | Database error was: |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.837 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. |
[17:14:00] | ViViD: | when i log into mysql with mythtv user, it gives me access |
[17:14:00] | bill2or3: | Sounds like you need to add some mysql permissions |
[17:15:00] | bill2or3: | are you logging in using the hostname or 'localhost' ? |
[17:15:00] | ViViD: | i log into mysql via 'mysql -u mythtv -p' |
[17:16:00] | bill2or3: | try adding '-h localhost' too |
[17:16:00] | ViViD: | to see if it still works? |
[17:16:00] | bill2or3: | yeah |
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[17:16:00] | ViViD: | yea it works |
[17:16:00] | bill2or3: | wierd. |
[17:17:00] | ViViD: | let me specify the database too |
[17:17:00] | bill2or3: | does your myth config have the right password? |
[17:17:00] | ViViD: | where is the config file? |
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[17:18:00] | ViViD: | when i specify the database it works too, mythtv has access to all databases i can find |
[17:18:00] | bill2or3: | no idea, I dont even have it installed yet. :-/ |
[17:19:00] | ViViD: | what i dont get is |
[17:19:00] | ViViD: | it doesnt work on startup right |
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[17:19:00] | ViViD: | but if i su, and /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start...it starts |
[17:19:00] | bill2or3: | that is wierd. |
[17:19:00] | Chutt: | uh, because things like $HOME aren't set when you're trying to do it earlier. |
[17:19:00] | bill2or3: | who does it run as on startup? |
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[17:19:00] | sona: | does anybody use a nova-t dvb-card with myth ? I noticed mythfilldatabse does not insert anything to the dvb_pids table, any clues ? |
[17:19:00] | ViViD: | one sec bill |
[17:20:00] | bill2or3: | usually when something works as root, but not a non-root user, it's a permissions problem |
[17:20:00] | _johnp: | that table is not used anymore |
[17:20:00] | _johnp: | (at least not post 0.16) |
[17:20:00] | ViViD: | in /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend it has 'USER=mythtv' |
[17:21:00] | sona: | _johnp: are you sure ? |
[17:21:00] | ViViD: | yet, i dont see anything specifying a password |
[17:21:00] | _johnp: | sona, we wanted to dump it at the time but we were overruled. |
[17:21:00] | rsdvd: | Vivid....the init processes are run by root......root does not need a password to lower accounts |
[17:22:00] | ViViD: | so root can run it as mythtv w/o specifying his passwd |
[17:22:00] | ViViD: | or does it need to be USER=root? |
[17:22:00] | sona: | then what the hell is wrong here |
[17:22:00] | bill2or3: | I'd find out what password it's sending. |
[17:22:00] | rsdvd: | yes......root and su into abny acocunt without a pasword.........that is why it is bad to use root for anything other than essential maintenace |
[17:23:00] | ViViD: | bill2or3: how can i find out what password its using? |
[17:23:00] | _johnp: | sona, which version are you running and have you done a channel scan ? |
[17:24:00] | rsdvd: | in many installations myth does nto start up properly on boot...this si oftern to do with the devices being set up in the right order.......many people (including me) start myth from a script |
[17:24:00] | bill2or3: | I dont know, it'd be somewhere in the myth config files. |
[17:25:00] | ViViD: | rsdvd: is there a way to execute the command 'mythbackend -d' at startup? |
[17:25:00] | dmz: | anyone here use any of the various Recordings->DVD tools (nuvexport, mythburn, ...)? (successfully)?? |
[17:25:00] | ViViD: | that command works as any user |
[17:25:00] | xris: | /etc/rc.d |
[17:25:00] | xris: | er, /etc/rc.local |
[17:25:00] | sona: | _johnp: .18.1-r1 (gentoo), Ive done a channel scan, it found all channels and mythepg works, when I start the frontend and watch tv I get a black screen which times out |
[17:25:00] | rsdvd: | vivid...as suggested.....any ofthe appropriate rc scripts or even a login script for tyour user |
[17:25:00] | xris: | sona: mythvfrontend -v all |
[17:26:00] | _johnp: | sona, have you set a correct starting channel up your videsource ? |
[17:26:00] | sona: | ok, Ill get that |
[17:26:00] | ViViD: | rsdvd: i dont know about appropriate scripts, im new to linux somewhat |
[17:26:00] | sona: | _johnp: got some problems with that, if I chose one it's not there next time I start it |
[17:26:00] | ViViD: | but a login script for my user sounds like the best option |
[17:26:00] | sona: | wait |
[17:27:00] | _johnp: | sona, make sure that the backend and frontends are not running. |
[17:27:00] | rsdvd: | ok.....login scripts can be the safest place...if you screw something up just login as a differnt user and fix it |
[17:27:00] | ViViD: | the command 'mythbackend -d' works as my user, even after i close the window |
[17:28:00] | ViViD: | do you know of any tutorials for making one under debian? |
[17:29:00] | rsdvd: | vivid......check out www.wilsonet.com/mythtv ..... it is for fedora instead of debian.....but it should give you most of the info you need (checkout seciotn 14 – Configure automatic startup) |
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[17:29:00] | rsdvd: | btw.....the -d forces it into a daemon....so it will run after the window is closed |
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[17:30:00] | _johnp: | sona, got to run I'm afraid. |
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[17:31:00] | ViViD: | rsdvd: yea, thats why i want to run it with the -d command |
[17:31:00] | ViViD: | so after its started i dont need an open terminal or anything to keep it up |
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[17:34:00] | ViViD: | btw, can i watch tv with another program like tvtime, while mythtv is recording? |
[17:34:00] | ViViD: | or, can i watch with mythtv while its recording? |
[17:34:00] | kormoc: | you can watch mythtv while it's recording |
[17:34:00] | rsdvd: | not from the same card......cards can only capture 1 stream as once |
[17:34:00] | rsdvd: | if you want to watch waht myth is currently recording you can do that |
[17:35:00] | kormoc: | or other recorded programs |
[17:36:00] | ViViD: | so if i start mythfrontend and Watch TV, it will record while im watching? |
[17:36:00] | ViViD: | scheduled recordings |
[17:37:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, no, watching live tv only gets buffered to the drive, it doesn't get recorded |
[17:37:00] | kormoc: | when you leave live tv, it goes poof |
[17:37:00] | ViViD: | how do i watch what im recording |
[17:37:00] | ViViD: | er, how do i watch a scheduled record |
[17:37:00] | kormoc: | watch recoded tv, and select the currently recording program |
[17:37:00] | kormoc: | and it will go as normal |
[17:38:00] | ViViD: | but it will still record right |
[17:38:00] | kormoc: | yes |
[17:38:00] | ViViD: | so basically watch tv as if im watchign something ive already recorded |
[17:38:00] | kormoc: | yup |
[17:39:00] | ViViD: | only thin i dont like about myth is its always fullscreen, so i cant work while its on |
[17:39:00] | sona: | xris: here is mythfrontend -v all http://ior.sytes.net/~sona/myth.txt would you mind havin a look ? |
[17:40:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, there is an option somewhere to make it an window |
[17:41:00] | ViViD: | yea, but it wont let me resize, and then i cant just switch it to FS |
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[17:41:00] | kormoc: | tis true |
[17:41:00] | ViViD: | like with other programs, you just hit F to go between |
[17:41:00] | kormoc: | or do what I do, have a second monitor dedicated to myth |
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[17:41:00] | ViViD: | i have nvidia twinview |
[17:42:00] | ViViD: | which works as though theres only 1 monitor |
[17:42:00] | kormoc: | yeah, which you can change how that's setup and have it see both montors |
[17:42:00] | kormoc: | and then have myth just run on the second one. |
[17:43:00] | ViViD: | that would be nice, cuz the second monitor would be fullscreen |
[17:43:00] | ViViD: | thats one downside from windows, in windows i could set all video to present fullscreen on the second monitor |
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[17:43:00] | ViViD: | and i havent figured out how to do that on linux yet |
[17:44:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, it is simple, there is a section in the nvidia readme about it, or I can link you to my xorg config that does that with two videocards and three monitors. |
[17:44:00] | sona: | xris: also, everytime i start the frontend, the default channel is cleared |
[17:44:00] | cbaoth: | How the frell do I add dvb channels? I've added some transports in the channel editor, but the actual channels don't show up after a scan. |
[17:44:00] | ViViD: | sure, paste your config |
[17:45:00] | sona: | cbaoth: did you do a fullscan ? |
[17:45:00] | ViViD: | i wrote mine manually from viewing someone elses paste |
[17:45:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/xorg.conf |
[17:45:00] | cbaoth: | sona: The first time yes. |
[17:46:00] | ViViD: | does 'NoLogo' disable the nvidia startup screen? |
[17:46:00] | kormoc: | yup |
[17:46:00] | cbaoth: | Yes. |
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[17:47:00] | ViViD: | i have it set up so i have only 1 monitor 1 screen and 1 device |
[17:49:00] | ViViD: | i dunno what all of your options mean either, i need to check out the nvidia site |
[17:49:00] | kormoc: | yeah, the nvidia readme says what they all are and what they all do |
[17:50:00] | ViViD: | is that on the site, or does it come with the packages? |
[17:50:00] | kormoc: | both |
[17:50:00] | ViViD: | did you choose not to use twinview? |
[17:50:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
[17:50:00] | kormoc: | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt |
[17:50:00] | ViViD: | yea i tried to get it working w/o but i always got monitor 2 on, and my main one off |
[17:51:00] | ViViD: | i like the nologo option, speeds up bootup by like 5 seconds |
[17:51:00] | kormoc: | yeah, you need to do similar to my FX5200 setup |
[17:51:00] | ViViD: | yea you have two cards |
[17:52:00] | kormoc: | actually it doesn't. it just displays a black screen rather then the nvidia logo |
[17:52:00] | ViViD: | bah |
[17:52:00] | kormoc: | the driver is doing things during that logo time |
[17:52:00] | kormoc: | nologo won't change that |
[17:52:00] | ViViD: | so it just goes blank for the same amount of time instead of showing the logo |
[17:52:00] | xris: | cbaoth: .18 or svn? |
[17:52:00] | cbaoth: | .18.1 |
[17:53:00] | ViViD: | so if i get a working setup like that |
[17:53:00] | xris: | then you still need to set up a data feed for it. |
[17:53:00] | ViViD: | with 2x screens, monitors and devices, is it possible to show all videos in fullscreen on one of them? |
[17:53:00] | eidolon: | aieee. NOW the remote doesn't work. Grrr. |
[17:53:00] | eidolon: | hey xris. |
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[17:53:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, yes, I have mplayer setup with a script to do DISPLAY=:0.1 /usr/bin/gmplayer $@ and no matter what I click on, it launches on the second screen |
[17:54:00] | xris: | cbaoth: then look at this. was written for atsc, but should work with dvb, too. http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/hdtvscan2dd.pl.txt |
[17:54:00] | ViViD: | in fullscreen? |
[17:54:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, if you have mplayer set to output in fullscreen mode, yes |
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[17:56:00] | ViViD: | cool |
[17:56:00] | ViViD: | need to get my backend to run on startup first, one thing at a time :D |
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[17:58:00] | cbaoth: | xris: From a glance on the core, it doesn't seem useful I'm afraid. I use the .dk xmltv grabber, not DD. |
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[17:58:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, what distro? |
[17:59:00] | xnor: | Does anyone know how to get sound out of a pvr350 card? |
[17:59:00] | ViViD: | deb sarge 2.4.27 |
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[17:59:00] | ViViD: | for the login script i guess i just have to put an executable script into /home/username/.kde/Autostart |
[18:00:00] | eidolon: | ViViD: why are you starting .kde? |
[18:00:00] | kormoc: | actually, for the backend, it's just adding a init.d script to your startup, you don't want to set it up to start up with x |
[18:00:00] | eidolon: | er. KDE? |
[18:01:00] | eidolon: | xnor: AFAIK, sound comes from the sound board, not from thetuner card. |
[18:02:00] | xnor: | eidolon i have a soundout cable, would be nice to try it |
[18:02:00] | eidolon: | er. so plug it into the sound board and go? :) |
[18:02:00] | eidolon: | or does your machine not have a sound board? |
[18:03:00] | ViViD: | eidolon: what do you mean why and i starting kde... |
[18:03:00] | ViViD: | thats my preferred gui |
[18:03:00] | kormoc: | mythbackend should start way before X gets started |
[18:03:00] | ViViD: | it should but its not |
[18:03:00] | eidolon: | yeah, but on a Myth box, you don't use the GUI. |
[18:03:00] | eidolon: | MFE is it's own GUI. |
[18:03:00] | kormoc: | no it's not |
[18:04:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, you absolutely need a WM with myth, or else you have focus issues |
[18:04:00] | kormoc: | eidolon, and not all mythboxes are standalone |
[18:04:00] | ViViD: | someone just said 'in many cases mythbackend wont start with init.d' |
[18:04:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
[18:04:00] | ViViD: | and to use a script, in my case im going to use a login script to start it |
[18:04:00] | kormoc: | it should very well start with init.d |
[18:04:00] | eidolon: | ViViD: my take on your problem with mbe and init.d is that you're not doing it right. |
[18:04:00] | eidolon: | you have misconfigured something or you're not setting it up correctly. |
[18:04:00] | ViViD: | well it doesnt, we just went over it |
[18:05:00] | kormoc: | if it doesn't start with the init.d, it won't start with mythbackend. |
[18:05:00] | eidolon: | putting a mythbackend startup in .kde/autostart is ridiculous. |
[18:05:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, what's the error you get? |
[18:05:00] | ViViD: | eidolon: i didnt do it, the myth install did... |
[18:05:00] | kormoc: | the myth install did not do that |
[18:05:00] | eidolon: | quite. |
[18:05:00] | ViViD: | i get an error that mythtv cant access it, yet i can log into it after i log in |
[18:06:00] | ViViD: | and i can start it after i log in |
[18:06:00] | ViViD: | either by /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start, or mythbackend -d |
[18:06:00] | kormoc: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.12 |
[18:06:00] | eidolon: | are you running /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start as user 'mythtv' or as root? |
[18:07:00] | eidolon: | you should absolutely -never- run init.d scripts as anything other than root. |
[18:07:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, sounds like you setup the mythtv backend as your user |
[18:07:00] | sona: | xris: did you look at my mythfrontend -v all output ? |
[18:07:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, copy ~/.myth to /root |
[18:07:00] | ViViD: | i set up the mythtv backend as mythtv, like the installer said |
[18:08:00] | ViViD: | mythtv is its own user |
[18:08:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, you need the ~/.myth/mysql.txt in /root/.myth as well |
[18:08:00] | kormoc: | actually, you don't |
[18:08:00] | kormoc: | you need it in /home/mythtv |
[18:08:00] | kormoc: | when you run mythbackend as your user it works because it's reading your ~/.myth/mysql.txt |
[18:08:00] | ViViD: | it says that the user cant log into the database |
[18:08:00] | ViViD: | during boot |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | but after im logged in, it doesnt |
[18:09:00] | kormoc: | when it launches as mythtv, it;s looking for /home/mythtv/.myth/mysql.txt |
[18:09:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, are you reading what I'm saying? |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | QSettings: error creating /.qt |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.773 New DB connection, total: 1 |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.804 Unable to connect to database! |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.815 Driver error was [1/1045]: |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | Database error was: |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | 2005-11–30 09:00:24.837 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. |
[18:09:00] | eidolon: | ViViD: stop pasting to channel. |
[18:09:00] | ViViD: | sorry, thats the startup error |
[18:10:00] | ** Beirdo points at the topic ** | |
[18:10:00] | Beirdo: | pastebin.... |
[18:10:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, I just told you how to fix it as well |
[18:10:00] | ViViD: | i meant to paste something else actually, but it didnt copy with cntrl+c |
[18:10:00] | eidolon: | ViViD: perhaps you'd be better off with a knoppmyth distribution. you're missing some basics on linux use, and you're spinning your wheels with permissions and user configuration – you're going to get into more and more trouble. |
[18:11:00] | ViViD: | that file isnt htere |
[18:11:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, try ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt then |
[18:11:00] | ViViD: | <rsdvd> in many installations myth does nto start up properly on boot...this si oftern to do with the devices being set up in the right order.......many people (including me) start myth from a script |
[18:11:00] | kormoc: | which is not your issue here |
[18:12:00] | eidolon: | correct. |
[18:12:00] | eidolon: | the issue you have here is permissions. |
[18:12:00] | kormoc: | if your devices were not getting setup, you won't be getting mysql errors |
[18:12:00] | ViViD: | then why can i access it now? |
[18:12:00] | kormoc: | ... |
[18:12:00] | ** kormoc points to what he's been saying for awhile ** | |
[18:12:00] | ViViD: | the user mythtv can access mysql and all its databases |
[18:12:00] | kormoc: | ... |
[18:12:00] | ** Beirdo eats some beans to build up the gas... ** | |
[18:12:00] | ViViD: | with grant option |
[18:12:00] | kormoc: | ... |
[18:12:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, you need to read what I've been saying... |
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[18:13:00] | kormoc: | when you run mythbackend as user ViViD, it looks at /home/vivid/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
[18:13:00] | ViViD: | i have been, im doing a few things at once here |
[18:13:00] | kormoc: | when your running mythbackend as user mythtv, it looks at /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
[18:14:00] | kormoc: | you need to have both those files matching |
[18:14:00] | ViViD: | what i dont understand is, at startup, it used /etc/init.d/mythtv-backup start, and it doesnt start |
[18:14:00] | kormoc: | correct |
[18:14:00] | ViViD: | yet after i login, and as superuser |
[18:14:00] | ViViD: | the command /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start works |
[18:14:00] | ViViD: | or the command mythbackend -d as any user works |
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[18:15:00] | ViViD: | the file /home/vivid/.mythtv/mysql.txt is there |
[18:15:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, fine whatever, don't listen. |
[18:16:00] | cwsmith: | so whatabout mythfrontend freezing hard core for no reason lol |
[18:16:00] | ViViD: | sorry if it seems that way, but, we went over all of this about 45 minutes ago |
[18:16:00] | ViViD: | and selected a login script as a simple quick-fix |
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[18:17:00] | kormoc: | ViViD, and I was telling you the correct way to fix it, but you're too stubern to listen, so it's your loss. |
[18:19:00] | ViViD: | that file doesnt exist at /home/mythtv/.mythtv, yet it does at /root/.mythtv and ~/.mythtv |
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[18:21:00] | ViViD: | so youre saying it needs to be in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt? or /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
[18:25:00] | kormoc: | /home/mythtv/ |
[18:25:00] | ViViD: | ok, cuz you were saying earlier it needed to be in /root |
[18:25:00] | kormoc: | cause I figured you were running backend as root |
[18:25:00] | kormoc: | then when you said it was running as user mythtv |
[18:25:00] | kormoc: | I changed what I said |
[18:25:00] | ViViD: | root initiates the command |
[18:26:00] | kormoc: | and switches users to mythtv |
[18:26:00] | ViViD: | which should i cp from.../root/.mythtv or ~/.mythtv |
[18:27:00] | kormoc: | whichever one is correct |
[18:29:00] | ViViD: | how do i copy the entire dir? |
[18:30:00] | ViViD: | i got cp: omitting directory /root.mythtv |
[18:30:00] | zuralin: | cp -a |
[18:30:00] | ViViD: | ty |
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[18:31:00] | ViViD: | wont be able to find out if it works for an hour and a half, cuz myth is recording atm |
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[18:50:00] | xnor: | what can be the error if scantv dont find any channels, it worked yesterday. yes the antennacable is in :) |
[18:51:00] | xnor: | mythtv can view channels, but i need to tune in some new |
[18:52:00] | poop: | *want want* http://www.origenae.com/product_x15e.htm |
[18:53:00] | QI3hrYB (n=QI3hrYB@70.89.208.241) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:53:00] | Beirdo: | so buy one |
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[18:53:00] | poop: | $600 |
[18:53:00] | Beirdo: | and? |
[18:53:00] | poop: | I could buy a Mac Mini for that |
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[18:53:00] | poop: | Or wait to see if the Intel Mac Mini dvr rumors pan out. |
[18:55:00] | poop: | I wonder how well a single 80mm fan cools a case. |
[18:55:00] | poop: | a single 60mm didn't do very well. |
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[18:59:00] | bill2or3: | how well do the mac-mini's work as a front-end box? |
[18:59:00] | Beirdo: | buy one and tell us :) |
[18:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[19:00:00] | bill2or3: | will they decode 1080 hdtv ok? |
[19:00:00] | bill2or3: | I'll get right on that. |
[19:00:00] | bill2or3: | heh |
[19:00:00] | Beirdo: | I doubt many people here will have tried on OSX at all |
[19:00:00] | poop: | bill: nope |
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[19:00:00] | bill2or3: | :-( |
[19:01:00] | poop: | bill: http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0511macmini2.html |
[19:03:00] | bill2or3: | sounds nice. |
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[19:16:00] | xnor: | a newbee question, how do i refresh/update the program information with the newest? i dont want to add/remove channels |
[19:18:00] | Krazylegz: | mythfilldatabase ? |
[19:19:00] | xnor: | hehe thanks |
[19:24:00] | Goshen: | arg...newegg and ecost are both out of the PVR 500 |
[19:25:00] | bill2or3: | mwave.com is good, zipzoomfly.com is good. |
[19:25:00] | bill2or3: | I've no trouble w/ either. |
[19:26:00] | Goshen: | I will check |
[19:27:00] | Krazylegz: | bill2or3: Keep those websites coming, I have to update my list. |
[19:28:00] | bill2or3: | those are the ones I've used recently. |
[19:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Thanks. |
[19:32:00] | Goshen: | ok, I got it shipped 2 day fedex for $13764 from mwave thank you |
[19:32:00] | Goshen: | I just better not get an e-mail saying thanks for the order, its now on backorder |
[19:32:00] | bill2or3: | heh |
[19:32:00] | Goshen: | I want it now :) |
[19:34:00] | poop: | wtf is with these parallel port VFDs? |
[19:35:00] | ** poop rules out Ahanix ** | |
[19:35:00] | laga: | $13764? what did you order? |
[19:35:00] | bill2or3: | $137.64 |
[19:35:00] | laga: | good ;) |
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[19:40:00] | Goshen: | :) |
[19:40:00] | Goshen: | Does anyone have Mythtv running on Mandriva 2006? |
[19:41:00] | Goshen: | I am going to try the packages tonight |
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[19:41:00] | jono: | hi all |
[19:41:00] | jono: | where does mythtv store the recorded shows – I want to watch one with mplayer |
[19:42:00] | Beirdo: | wherever YOU told it to |
[19:42:00] | Goshen: | Tonight is going to be interesting, going to put together my first LVM setup with two raided 80gb sata drives and two 200gb ide drives |
[19:42:00] | jono: | how do I find out where I told it to? |
[19:43:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv-setup should have it in there somewhere |
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[19:52:00] | peritus: | buaaah, i want firedtv linux drivers! |
[19:52:00] | Juski: | hi folks |
[19:54:00] | jono: | I cant't get the sound on my damn pvr-350 working |
[19:55:00] | Juski: | jono: like the inital channel message says, try #ivtv |
[19:55:00] | Juski: | ;) |
[19:55:00] | jono: | oh sorry |
[19:55:00] | jono: | quick question though, should the svideo output from my sky box output video AND audio |
[19:56:00] | Juski: | jono: just video |
[19:56:00] | jono: | oh, so where does the audio go? |
[19:56:00] | Juski: | jono: to get svideo & stereo audio you'll need a SCART cable |
[19:56:00] | Juski: | maybe that's why you're not getting any audio |
[19:56:00] | jono: | ahhh I see |
[19:56:00] | jono: | hah! |
[19:56:00] | Juski: | unless the $ky box has seperate audio outputs |
[19:57:00] | jono: | thanks *so* much for that nugget of information! :) |
[19:57:00] | bill2or3: | this guy needs myth: http://www.register-herald.com/cnhi/registerh . . . 1233330.html |
[19:57:00] | bill2or3: | heh |
[19:58:00] | Juski: | bill2or3: lol. I dunno about mythtv, but he needs his head checking |
[19:58:00] | bill2or3: | yeah, that too. |
[19:58:00] | bill2or3: | I've been thinking about getting a fta reciever. |
[19:58:00] | bill2or3: | just for fun |
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[19:59:00] | Juski: | I need to find out how to set environment variables in ubuntu, or this svn compile is never gonna work |
[20:00:00] | rsdvd_: | juski : I have just built the reciveer :-) but what is the best way to test it? |
[20:00:00] | poop: | Juski: export FOO="bar" or FOO="bar" some_command |
[20:02:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: download & compile LIRC, after configuring it for serial port operation.. after of course disabling the serial ports in the kernel |
[20:03:00] | Juski: | thanks poop: but I'd prefer the change to be permanent I think |
[20:03:00] | rsdvd_: | no easy with minimyth though :-( |
[20:03:00] | poop: | Juski: Then configure your shell |
[20:03:00] | Juski: | ahhh rsdvd_: give me a sec & I'll post a link to my minimyth.conf |
[20:03:00] | rsdvd_: | thanks |
[20:03:00] | Juski: | poop: just edit ~/.profile ? |
[20:04:00] | poop: | Juski: for bash or ksh, sure |
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[20:04:00] | Juski: | for some reason I thought it'd be harder than that |
[20:05:00] | laga: | nice. a whole night of "married with children" |
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[20:06:00] | Juski: | laga: heheh |
[20:06:00] | rsdvd_: | juksi : woudl i be righ in thinking I should see 5v between the GND and OUT of the voltage regulator? |
[20:06:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: yep |
[20:06:00] | Beirdo: | rsdvd: only if it's a +5V regulator |
[20:06:00] | rsdvd_: | mmm.....migh have something screwy then |
[20:07:00] | Juski: | or the serial port isn't capable of driving the little circuit.. I've seen that |
[20:07:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: I chopped a USB cable & I pick 5V from that |
[20:07:00] | rsdvd_: | i've got 12 v comming form the serial port.....just seems to vaish in the cirsuit |
[20:08:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: serial port driver probably current limiting |
[20:08:00] | rsdvd_: | more like I have screwed up the soldering :-) |
[20:08:00] | Juski: | test what resistance you get at the regulator input when it's not connected to anything |
[20:09:00] | Juski: | maybe the cap's in the wrong way (eek!) |
[20:09:00] | rsdvd_: | looks right according to the diagram....negative down |
[20:12:00] | rsdvd_: | silly electronics question.......which way round does a diode go? |
[20:12:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/minimyth.conf (and remember it's for minimyth 0.18.1.2) |
[20:13:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: the positive end of the diode is the one with the identifying band around it |
[20:13:00] | Juski: | oops.. forget that |
[20:13:00] | rsdvd_: | on a diagram is that the line ? |
[20:13:00] | Juski: | yes |
[20:14:00] | rsdvd_: | mmm....i thought so! not suere this won't work! |
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[20:15:00] | rsdvd_: | I get the feeling that I have ordered the wrong voltage regulator :-( I guessed again |
[20:16:00] | Juski: | what is it? |
[20:16:00] | Juski: | should be mc78L05 or something like that – definitely 78 L 05 |
[20:16:00] | rsdvd_: | LW78L05ACZ |
[20:16:00] | Juski: | that's fine |
[20:16:00] | Juski: | maybe you got the pinout of it wrong |
[20:16:00] | rsdvd_: | good |
[20:16:00] | Juski: | wouldn't have hurt it |
[20:16:00] | rsdvd_: | maybe...but I followed the diag on lirc.org |
[20:17:00] | rsdvd_: | flat side at top......out | GND | in |
[20:17:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: those pinouts are usually viewed from the underside |
[20:18:00] | Juski: | which might be the same... my head's a bit of a mess again from work |
[20:18:00] | rsdvd_: | asrhhhhh....that might be it |
[20:19:00] | rsdvd_: | I think you have got it.....I might have it the wrong way round.....I will unsolder it and swap it over and see what happens |
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[20:25:00] | Goose-Npa: | is it hard to get a game controller working in slackware? |
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[20:26:00] | poop: | Sounds like a question for #obsolete-linux |
[20:26:00] | Juski: | I hate to admit this, but I'm lost with this exporting stuff lol |
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[20:27:00] | laga: | poop: slackware is not obsolete |
[20:27:00] | Beirdo: | poop, that's not terribly useful |
[20:27:00] | poop: | sorry, just #linux then |
[20:27:00] | Juski: | damn gentoo spoiled me with all that stuff.. just used to download stuff & compile it without a care in the world |
[20:27:00] | Dagmar: | Goose-Npa; no, it's eaasy |
[20:28:00] | Goose-Npa: | any tips? |
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[20:30:00] | poop: | Alright, despite the complaints about noise, I think I'm going to buy a Silverstone LC10M (and disable one 60mm fan) |
[20:30:00] | Juski: | poop: or buy some Xinruilian fans ;) |
[20:30:00] | poop: | I should probably verify that spdif actually works. |
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[20:31:00] | poop: | It works in windos at least, so there's always sagetv as a fallback. |
[20:33:00] | rsdvd_: | juski.....is it easy to kill these voltage regulators? could I have damaged it by owver heating or something? |
[20:33:00] | mythuser: | i keep getting Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
[20:33:00] | Juski: | wtf? arggh there's no /usr/local/qt3/bin directory! |
[20:33:00] | laga: | Juski: did you compile qt yourself? |
[20:33:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: I never damaged one as a teenage solderer, so probably not |
[20:33:00] | rsdvd_: | :-) |
[20:33:00] | Juski: | laga: I apt-getted it |
[20:33:00] | mythuser: | please help, ive been googling and reading the last 3 days and cant get it to work |
[20:33:00] | Beirdo: | rsdvd: I blew one up once. |
[20:33:00] | laga: | Juski: should be in /usr/ instead of /usr/local/ then |
[20:33:00] | Beirdo: | but that's when I put it in backwards |
[20:33:00] | Beirdo: | don't do that :) |
[20:34:00] | ** Juski used to put caps in backwards just for fun at college ** | |
[20:34:00] | poop: | mythuser: Read the mysql documentation |
[20:34:00] | rsdvd_: | I thnk I have the in and out the wrong way round to start...woudl that kill it? |
[20:34:00] | Beirdo: | quite likely |
[20:35:00] | mythuser: | poop i did that the only think thats not working is i cant get mythbackend to autostart ive set the deamon to start but getting a mysql error and i set the password for user mysql, but it still complains |
[20:35:00] | Juski: | fucking linux distros.. everything has to have a different name... |
[20:36:00] | ** Juski goes off to find a big howto ** | |
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[20:38:00] | poop: | mythuser: Maybe the answer is in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
[20:41:00] | Juski: | hang on a sec.. if the directories are ok, mythtv will compile okay, right? And it compiled ok... so it must just be that the binaries were put somewhere not set up to be searched in $PATH |
[20:42:00] | poop: | Anything is possible |
[20:42:00] | mythuser: | poop: ive checked that the password matches in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt and i can connect with mysql -u mythtv -p |
[20:43:00] | Juski: | compiling again incase I missed anything error-message-wise |
[20:43:00] | poop: | mythuser: I don't think the backend is looking ~mythtv |
[20:44:00] | poop: | I mean it might if you're running it as mythtv, but apparently that's not the case ... |
[20:45:00] | mythuser: | poop: ? what do i need to fo then? i run mythbackend as a service on fedora core 4 |
[20:45:00] | rsdvd_: | juski : what is the best way to cut stripbaord? |
[20:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | ugh |
[20:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | mythtv and wifi just wont work for me |
[20:46:00] | poop: | mythuser: Did you try my last suggestion? |
[20:46:00] | mythuser: | poop: im not sure what u wanted me to do? |
[20:47:00] | poop: | mythuser: I wanted to you look at a file. |
[20:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
[20:47:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: use a craft knife or scalpel to score a line in it (4 or 5 strokes is usually enough), then put the bit you want broken off over a desk or some other rigid 90 degree angled surface and gently apply pressure until it just snaps off :) |
[20:47:00] | poop: | It sounded like you looked at another file. |
[20:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | maybe it will after all |
[20:48:00] | rsdvd_: | juski : :-) thanks! that is neater than my first atempt with shears |
[20:48:00] | ** Juski has always said 'wireless schmireless'.. can't wait til it emerges that wifi causes brain damage or something ** | |
[20:49:00] | Juski: | god I'm bitter |
[20:49:00] | rsdvd_: | no your boddingtons :-) |
[20:49:00] | poop: | Juski: New to linux? Take a load off. Burn some time. |
[20:50:00] | Juski: | boddingtons will never take me alive I tell you! |
[20:50:00] | mythuser: | poop: there is no /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt file. a locate mysql.txt gives /.mythtv/mysql.txt /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
[20:50:00] | Juski: | poop: not a total noob, but new to a distro that doesn't hand-hold |
[20:51:00] | poop: | mythuser: Ah, so your challenge now is to figure out which mysql.txt the back-end is reading. |
[20:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | ia 6MB/s sufficient for sharing video over wifi for myth? |
[20:51:00] | mythuser: | poop: yea, hehe |
[20:51:00] | Juski: | [Klatuu]: sometimes ;) |
[20:52:00] | Juski: | (if you actually get a sustainable 6MB/sec) |
[20:52:00] | cro: | Klatuu: 6 megaBYTES or 6 megaBITS? |
[20:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | I just copied an 800 meg file to my myth box over wifi and got 6MB/s |
[20:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | MB |
[20:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | megabytes |
[20:53:00] | Juski: | heheh.. my mate who's a bit of a linux guru must know what I'm up to.. he's not been online the last couple of nights |
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[20:53:00] | poop: | Klatuu: Your bandwidth will diminish when people start freeloading on your open network. |
[20:53:00] | cro: | that's probably the top of what you will get--802.11g is 54 Mbit/sec |
[20:53:00] | Juski: | actually.. my piss is still boiling @ that Orfeous dude |
[20:53:00] | Dagmar: | g has plenty of bandwidth for video |
[20:53:00] | laga: | Juski: why? |
[20:53:00] | poop: | I only get 1MB/s sustained with WPA |
[20:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | well |
[20:54:00] | Juski: | laga: all the time I wasted trying to help |
[20:54:00] | Dagmar: | poop: You're on a b network is why |
[20:54:00] | [Klatuu]: | I am using 802.11a |
[20:54:00] | cro: | hm--what wireless hardware? |
[20:54:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have lots of room on 802.11a |
[20:54:00] | cro: | yeah, and you won't get interference from microwave ovens, etc. |
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[20:54:00] | laga: | Juski: oh, that always sucks. someone has just asked me to burn my mythtv-setup to CD and send it to him. |
[20:54:00] | poop: | Dagmar: g |
[20:54:00] | Juski: | laga: and you told him to.. (whistle) |
[20:54:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have atheros stuff |
[20:55:00] | sphing: | lol @ laga |
[20:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | not many people competing on 802.11a either |
[20:55:00] | Juski: | there's a plan.. I'll FedEx a spare hard drive over to you |
[20:55:00] | laga: | Juski: i was nice. ;) married with children makes me happy. |
[20:55:00] | poop: | I wonder if I can trust this iMON linux driver. |
[20:55:00] | Juski: | only I'll make the package a lot bigger than a football for its safety |
[20:55:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe |
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[20:56:00] | Juski: | I'm married, but 3 PCs not kids |
[20:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | PCs will cost as much as kids |
[20:56:00] | ** laga is married to his myth box ** | |
[20:56:00] | Juski: | right now I know what I'd rather have.. and it aint these boxes |
[20:56:00] | Juski: | it's all that fscking theme's fault |
[20:56:00] | Juski: | lol |
[20:56:00] | mythuser: | poop, ha that solved the problem it was the file in /.mythtv that mythbackend used |
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[20:59:00] | poop: | mythuser: Empoyering, eh? |
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[21:00:00] | Adaba: | has anyone had any luck configuring myth to get one card (pvr150) to work a cable box (digital channels) and the other (pvr500) to just do the analog channels>? |
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[21:01:00] | Adaba: | the pvr500 keeps trying to record channels that it cant receive |
[21:01:00] | Dagmar: | You will jhave to define two different inputs |
[21:01:00] | Goshen: | Adaba: didn't set up your chanel line up properly? |
[21:01:00] | Adaba: | The only workaround i could figure was to chaneg recording preference... but then I cant use the digital box if anything is recording |
[21:02:00] | Dagmar: | Adaba: what you need to change is in mythtv-setup. You need to define one as your cable provider, and the other lineup as *only* the broadcast channels. |
[21:02:00] | Adaba: | okay.. |
[21:02:00] | Adaba: | I will try that, thanks |
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[21:03:00] | ViViD: | moving those files into the /home/mythtv/.mythtv directory didnt fix the problem |
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[21:06:00] | sphing: | ViViD: whats your problem? |
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[21:12:00] | ViViD: | mythbackend wont start via init.d on bootup |
[21:12:00] | ViViD: | so im going to make a login script to start it |
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[21:13:00] | Juski: | should I be worried about this: "/usr/include/qt3/qxml.h:461: warning: âclass QXmlDeclHandlerâ has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor"? |
[21:14:00] | poop: | So vendors are selling sagetv and beyondtv bundles, but no mythtv. |
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[21:14:00] | poop: | Juski: warnings < errors |
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[21:14:00] | Juski: | poop: would _you_ do tech support for mythtv, based on how many variables there are and how stupid users can be? |
[21:14:00] | ViViD: | my problem is wierd, cuz on bootup, the user mythtv gets denied access to mysqldb |
[21:14:00] | poop: | Juski: I'm not sure they offer support, just a bundle of hardware and software :) |
[21:14:00] | ViViD: | i think becuase its not fully started up when the backend starts |
[21:15:00] | laga: | Juski: happens to me, too. works good, though |
[21:15:00] | Juski: | poop: that's a receipe for a lawsuit :P |
[21:15:00] | ViViD: | becuase after boot is complete it starts fine, with the same command taht doesnt work on boot |
[21:15:00] | laga: | ViViD: it's probably started before the TV card is initialized |
[21:15:00] | poop: | Juski: They could offer to reimage the machine or hard drive at the owner's shipping expense. |
[21:16:00] | sphing: | ViViD: so make sure it starts after mysql |
[21:16:00] | Juski: | laga: I'm normally used to seeing compile-time warnings, but this distro is new to me |
[21:16:00] | ViViD: | laga: tv card is up at a prev runlevel, i get the sound from it during bootup |
[21:16:00] | laga: | Juski: it's ok, imho. i've just built svn on ubuntu and it works. |
[21:17:00] | poop: | ubububu |
[21:17:00] | ViViD: | sphing: its executed directly after mysqld |
[21:17:00] | sphing: | so put a sleep |
[21:17:00] | Juski: | or, umbongo, as I call it ;) |
[21:17:00] | ViViD: | how would i do that? |
[21:17:00] | Juski: | I'm only using it coz it's so easy to install from scratch |
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[21:18:00] | sphing: | put sleep 2 the line before mythbackend |
[21:18:00] | ViViD: | i swear a simple login script would fix this and nobody would know the difference |
[21:18:00] | ViViD: | in /etc/init.d/mythtv-backkend? |
[21:19:00] | sphing: | ViViD: do make a login script |
[21:19:00] | sphing: | *so make.. |
[21:21:00] | ViViD: | where would i add the sleep command? |
[21:22:00] | sphing: | just make a login script |
[21:22:00] | sphing: | like you said |
[21:22:00] | rsdvd_: | juski : I have just made another,........and that don;t work either |
[21:22:00] | ** rsdvd_ cries ** | |
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[21:23:00] | ViViD: | sphing: do i just remove mythtv-backend from /etc/init.d to stop it from loading at boot? |
[21:24:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: try taking the reguilator out, & just tap +5V from a USB port |
[21:24:00] | rsdvd_: | I don;t have any parts to made a usb cable |
[21:24:00] | sphing: | ... yes |
[21:24:00] | laga: | no old usb mice? |
[21:25:00] | rsdvd_: | no....only ps2 |
[21:25:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: I think you'll be able to find +5V on a motherboard USB header |
[21:25:00] | Juski: | PS2 cables are eminently choppable :D |
[21:25:00] | rsdvd_: | ewwww...no comfortable with that. |
[21:25:00] | Juski: | pinouts are easy to find |
[21:26:00] | Juski: | come on.. where's your pioneer spirit? ;) |
[21:26:00] | rsdvd_: | I think I will persevere with this for a while yet..............the diagram is correct on lirc.org? I am following the right thing |
[21:26:00] | Juski: | soon as warranties expire I'm inside electronics gear like a shot |
[21:27:00] | rsdvd_: | I only bought this box a mont ago:-) |
[21:27:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: maybe you got the pinout of the IR receiver wrong |
[21:27:00] | rsdvd_: | maybe...i seem to have got everything else wrong |
[21:27:00] | Juski: | maybe I should have advised you to build the regilator bit first & test it before putting the receiver on |
[21:28:00] | rsdvd_: | :-) |
[21:28:00] | rsdvd_: | there shoudl be a clean 5v between the +/- pins of the IR IC? |
[21:28:00] | Juski: | btw folks.. downloaded 'In The Pirkinning' last night.. top movie :) |
[21:28:00] | Juski: | rsdvd_: yeps |
[21:29:00] | Juski: | unless it's a 3V3 part.. then you might be neck deep in it |
[21:30:00] | rsdvd_: | I bought the part you recommended......TSOP1738 |
[21:30:00] | Juski: | should be fine.. if aRSe sent the right one |
[21:30:00] | rsdvd_: | ........I might have found it.....the IC had crap in the solder.......now got 5v :-O |
[21:31:00] | Juski: | bet your soldering iron is a Weller |
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[21:31:00] | rsdvd_: | god knows.....it is at leat 15 years old |
[21:32:00] | Juski: | heheh |
[21:32:00] | rsdvd_: | that was the last time I did anything like this (and that was in school) |
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[21:32:00] | Juski: | when the place I worked for was closing down I was offered a Metcal thing.. £700 worth |
[21:33:00] | Juski: | gets up to temp in seconds |
[21:33:00] | Juski: | so, rsdvd.. next thing is to fiddle with your minimyth.conf |
[21:33:00] | rsdvd_: | I'm sure ypou could build these in seconds (in your sleep) |
[21:34:00] | Juski: | maybe ones I build in my sleep would work first time too :) |
[21:34:00] | rsdvd_: | lol....touche |
[21:35:00] | laga: | Juski: now you show off ;) |
[21:35:00] | Juski: | as opposed to the last ones I made in my waking hours lol |
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[21:36:00] | Juski: | oo it's up to main.cpp now.. |
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[21:43:00] | rsdvd: | Juski : I have moved to my backend to try this reciver.......I built lirc for serial.....but when I modprobe lirc_serial I get an error about device busy? any ideas? |
[21:45:00] | cbaoth: | Eh... did the SVN get a new setup procedure or is mythtv-setup busted in 8088? When I start it just said to run mythfilldatabase if it's the master backend.... nevermind that no channels or cards are defined yet. |
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[21:58:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: I bet your kernel still has the serial port stuff in it |
[21:59:00] | rsdvd: | how do I get round it? |
[21:59:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: recompile the kernel without the character devices that are your serial ports |
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[22:00:00] | rsdvd: | Arhhhhh....do I really have to recompile the kernel? the boxes these are to go on are miniyth and KnoppMyth......I really don't want to keep recopiling thereo kernels |
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[22:00:00] | Juski: | minimyth doesn't have serial ports in its kernel |
[22:01:00] | Dagmar: | You should be able to bring in serial support as modules, tho, so it won't be a complete rebuild |
[22:01:00] | rsdvd: | ok......but this KnoppMyth does ? |
[22:01:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: I dunno |
[22:01:00] | rsdvd: | Ihave built the modules from lirc.org....it was a modprobe lirc_serial that caused the error |
[22:02:00] | Juski: | woohoo... compile worked, and now all I need to do is include /usr/local/bin in $PATH |
[22:02:00] | Juski: | echo $PATH |
[22:02:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
[22:03:00] | rsdvd: | :-) worked it out......RTFM call setserial /dev/ttySx uart none to release the according port |
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[22:04:00] | Juski: | neat :) |
[22:04:00] | Juski: | wish I'd known that a long time ago |
[22:05:00] | rsdvd: | I woudl expect to be able to run irw now and get stuff from the electronics? |
[22:05:00] | Juski: | ermm not quite |
[22:06:00] | Juski: | I think minimyth has some aliases for lirc commands |
[22:06:00] | rsdvd: | I am on knoppmyth at the moment |
[22:06:00] | Juski: | irw won't work unless you have a remote defined |
[22:06:00] | Juski: | mode2 should do the job |
[22:06:00] | rsdvd: | ARH! |
[22:07:00] | Juski: | or cat from the lirc device |
[22:07:00] | rsdvd: | :-( that don't work either |
[22:07:00] | mythuser: | why do i get at "ignoring bad line starting with 'add'" from my modprobe.conf i want to get my lirc device to work |
[22:08:00] | Juski: | this is nice.. my previous mythtv install had a v4l capture card. now it doesn't, so I deleted all the cards.. now I can't add a new card because all I get in 'card type' is 'analog v4l capture card' and I can't change it |
[22:08:00] | Dagmar: | Juski: So you have an ivtv card now? |
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[22:09:00] | Juski: | Dagmar: nope.. previously I had 2 cards – one v4l analog one and a dvb-t tuner |
[22:09:00] | Juski: | now I just have the dvb-t tuner |
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[22:09:00] | Dagmar: | Freaky. You didn't recompile mythtv? |
[22:09:00] | Dagmar: | It should still be letting you have the dvb-t option, or so I thought |
[22:10:00] | Juski: | ahhh! I couldn't tell that the card type selector was selected |
[22:10:00] | Juski: | some stabbing around has let me change it |
[22:10:00] | rsdvd: | juski ;: I am getting stuff in mod2 now :-) |
[22:10:00] | Juski: | looks like the scaling for the 'card type' box is borked |
[22:13:00] | Juski: | well I got it compiled ok, and it loads alright |
[22:13:00] | Juski: | so that should be enough just to test this theme |
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[22:15:00] | ViViD: | the login script works perfectly |
[22:16:00] | Juski: | right I'm out. night all.. have fun rsdvd :) |
[22:16:00] | Juski: | thanks for the help |
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[22:33:00] | mythuser: | hi anyone gotten a pvr350 remote to work on startup? |
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[22:41:00] | mjman: | Hi all. I am running mythtv on Gentoo (kernel 2.6.12-r10), a Hauppauge PVR-350 (ivtv version 0.4.0, LIRC version 0.7.2). I am having a very annoying problem of LIRC being intermittent. If I run irw, then it will work fine for a few seconds, then stop responding. I have to kill irw and restart for it to start responding again. Same happens with mythtv. The remote dies after a few seconds, then I have to restart X-windows to get it to w |
[22:41:00] | mjman: | ork again. Here is my lircd.conf: http://pastebin.com/444205 Any help is much appreciated! thanks |
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[22:46:00] | mythuser: | mjman can u get the remote to load on startup? |
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[22:52:00] | Tristam: | I just wish I could get mythsetup to run and actually update the settings...heh |
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[23:12:00] | mythuser: | hi anyone gotten a pvr350 remote to work on startup? |
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[23:19:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone here farmiliar with xmine? |
[23:22:00] | mythuser: | no |
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[23:26:00] | CanadaBoy: | ha ha |
[23:27:00] | CanadaBoy: | what about if i can ignore .a_certion_extention_lost_listed etention in MythVideo |
[23:30:00] | mjman: | heh sorry, i ran out for a bit, and i gotta go again too, but, mythuser, the remote loads fine (lirc_i2c kernel module), and lircd starts up fine. The problem is that it becomes intermittently unresponsive when i try to use it. |
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[23:44:00] | qfour20: | when i go into the media library and select "listen to music" myth doesn't open anything up and I stay at that same menu.... what did I do wrong? |
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[23:46:00] | qfour20: | i also get the same behavior when i go to "utilities/setup" and select "music tools" |
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[23:48:00] | hadees: | I just got my new issue of the linux journal and was pleasantly surprised to find MythTV as the cover article, they even have an advanced MythTV follow up article that talks about nuvexport |
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