| Saturday, November 26th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | dev-: | no, 8mm to rca |
| [00:00:00] | \Grooby\_: | dev, can I be your friend? |
| [00:00:00] | dev-: | haha sure :) |
| [00:00:00] | xanderp: | my amd64 3400+ box burned up 2 powersupplies in my micro front end case (not enough airflow) so it's now in a tower case in the basement, and i'm trying to get an epia frontend built... |
| [00:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | i say we setup nano-itx front-ends |
| [00:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | www.mini-itx.com |
| [00:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | who wants to take a road trip to japan? |
| [00:01:00] | dev-: | nice, very similar for me, but i burnt out to pvr250's before i took them out of a mini-atx case into a tower |
| [00:01:00] | dev-: | s/to/two |
| [00:02:00] | dev-: | didnt realise how hot they got :) woops :) |
| [00:02:00] | xanderp: | something about an amd64 + 2 tuners in a tiny box = disaster waiting to happen ;) |
| [00:03:00] | xanderp: | also it was VERY LOUD... (big fans tend to be that way, even when they aren't moving much air!) |
| [00:04:00] | dev-: | yeah i actually put a midtower slavebackend in the living room, masterbackend in the computer room. anyway, its got a bigass 100mm fan on the cpu and a 120mm fan on the case |
| [00:04:00] | dev-: | its damn near silent |
| [00:05:00] | dev-: | if i sleep on the couch (heh) you can just barely hear it |
| [00:05:00] | xanderp: | dev-: you snore that loud? |
| [00:05:00] | dev-: | haha nah, but i like the couch ;) pass out watching tv all the time |
| [00:06:00] | dev-: | would be nice if myth had a sleeptimer |
| [00:07:00] | Krazylegz: | dev-: It does? |
| [00:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Menu->Sleep? |
| [00:07:00] | dev-: | no shit? |
| [00:07:00] | Krazylegz: | While watching LiveTV, at least. |
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| [00:08:00] | dev-: | - F8 to toggle the sleep timer 30m->1hr->1hr30m->2hr->Off |
| [00:08:00] | dev-: | schweet |
| [00:08:00] | dev-: | new key to bind |
| [00:08:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [00:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Cool. |
| [00:08:00] | dev-: | thanks dude |
| [00:08:00] | dev-: | guess i shoulda grep'd keys before opening my big fat fingers |
| [00:08:00] | dev-: | =] |
| [00:08:00] | Krazylegz: | No problem. |
| [00:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
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| [00:09:00] | xanderp: | nice... i just realized that I don't have any burner stuff emerged on the laptop... have to move the iso to the backend (will it ever end?) |
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| [00:13:00] | Octane: | can someone quickly paste their mplayer commandline for mythvideo |
| [00:17:00] | \Grooby\_: | just out of curiousty, how are you guys partition your HDs? |
| [00:17:00] | Agrajag-: | a lot of people use lvm |
| [00:17:00] | xanderp: | fdisk :) hehe |
| [00:18:00] | xanderp: | i use xfs for my video partition |
| [00:18:00] | xanderp: | and ext3 for everything else |
| [00:18:00] | \Grooby\_: | what about your root? |
| [00:18:00] | xanderp: | oops |
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| [00:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | hmm...I should lvm the root too |
| [00:19:00] | \Grooby\_: | that would be fun |
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| [00:23:00] | NightMonkey: | Happy holiday, all. Anyone running some method of PHP acceleration on your MythWeb server? If so, which accelerator? |
| [00:24:00] | NightMonkey: | I hate how my system has a high latency between MythWeb link click and page return. I'm wondering of memcached can help MythWeb's speed. |
| [00:25:00] | NightMonkey: | I haven't had a need to install a PHP accelerator for other PHP products, as they all perform quite fast. |
| [00:26:00] | \Grooby\_: | i don't use php accelerator with mythweb |
| [00:26:00] | \Grooby\_: | but i have it running on another server for my other stuff |
| [00:26:00] | \Grooby\_: | and I use eaccelerator |
| [00:27:00] | \Grooby\_: | http://eaccelerator.net/HomeUk |
| [00:27:00] | \Grooby\_: | i dunno if that would help |
| [00:27:00] | NightMonkey: | \Grooby\_: Ah, I was just reading eAccelerator's site – looks promising! |
| [00:28:00] | dev-: | mythweb is slow displaying my recordings, but thats it. otherwise its pretty snappy |
| [00:28:00] | NightMonkey: | \Grooby\_: Do you also use Zend? |
| [00:28:00] | \Grooby\_: | nope |
| [00:28:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [00:28:00] | NightMonkey: | \Grooby\_: Excellent. Thank you – good to hear. :) |
| [00:31:00] | ** xanderp will never give up on a gentoo install again without first backing up the partition! (Aughh!!!) ** | |
| [00:32:00] | xanderp: | at least i will have a clean installation ;\ |
| [00:32:00] | NightMonkey: | \Grooby\_: Do you use inode-based caching in eAccelerator? |
| [00:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | good question |
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| [00:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | i dunno |
| [00:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [00:35:00] | xanderp: | ssh session for install is my friend (xanderp likes to copy/paste) |
| [00:35:00] | NightMonkey: | \Grooby\_: Strange, not really covered so far on their site, but it's a USE flag in Gentoo, so, I'm curious as to what it does. |
| [00:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | ahhhh |
| [00:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | the other server uses centos |
| [00:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [00:36:00] | NightMonkey: | \Grooby\_: Having the USE flag *not* set adds "--without-eaccelerator-use-inode" to the .configure options. Still, not much help in understanding... ;) |
| [00:37:00] | xanderp: | could someone using an epiaM10k frontend on gentoo please share their make.conf with me so i don't have to reinvent the wheel? |
| [00:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Oh, well. Sorry, won't bug you about this – it seems tangential to the core use of eAccel. |
| [00:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehe |
| [00:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | sorry i can't help you on that one |
| [00:38:00] | NightMonkey: | \Grooby\_: No, you've helped me quite a bit. Thanks! |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | xanderp: there's a guide I started out following for that |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | I think it's over at epiawiki.org |
| [00:39:00] | xanderp: | will go there... thanks |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | but if you think that the composite output will look any better in another distro, you'd be mistaken ;) |
| [00:41:00] | xanderp: | Juski: gentoo is what i was on before, and re-doing it again. I just had several problems with various kernel builds (sound, lirc, etc) and i didn't have the energy to learn how to edit minimyth to my liking... |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | it's easy as pie.. one config file for the lot |
| [00:43:00] | \Grooby\_: | just use genkernel! |
| [00:43:00] | \Grooby\_: | j/k |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | 3 if you include lirc, X and minimyth itself |
| [00:43:00] | dev-: | minimyth = knoppmyth? |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | dev-: nope |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | minimyth is a frontend diskless distro especially for EPIA gear |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | weighs in at about 60MB |
| [00:44:00] | dev-: | ah, sweet |
| [00:44:00] | dev-: | hrm, use a usb stick heh |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | you can |
| [00:45:00] | dev-: | that would be neat, and quiet, and fast heh |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | I've been thinking of trying that |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | as opposed to netbooting |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | it changes so rarely there's no need for a netboot really |
| [00:46:00] | xanderp: | Juski: can i use my pvr350's tvout with minimyth? i didn't really tinker with it very much. |
| [00:46:00] | \Grooby\_: | it's a diskless distro |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | xanderp: no |
| [00:46:00] | xanderp: | ahh... |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | what's the big deal? the svideo output is great |
| [00:47:00] | \Grooby\_: | what I want is myth frontend that runs on my beat up sega dreamcast |
| [00:47:00] | xanderp: | my tuner doesn't support svideo, so i have to convert it to composite to use the spdif off the composite port... and my converter 'dongle' sux |
| [00:47:00] | Juski: | \Grooby\_: build an EPIA system & put it in the dreamcast box :D |
| [00:47:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
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| [00:48:00] | xanderp: | by tuner i meant my a/v console |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | been toying with the idea of switching to RGB |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | but then that'll move the cable box I have to AV2 |
| [00:49:00] | \Grooby\_: | convert the whole thing to ASCII in real time and watch it in text mode |
| [00:49:00] | \Grooby\_: | that would be funny |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | vlc can do that |
| [00:49:00] | dev-: | mplayer with aalib too |
| [00:49:00] | \Grooby\_: | hahahaha |
| [00:49:00] | xanderp: | when i tried svideo out to the television's svideo in, my picture looked like hell... like the pinout was wrong or something... color was messed up as well as the screen was distorted |
| [00:49:00] | \Grooby\_: | i'll have to goof around w/ that |
| [00:49:00] | dev-: | its pretty funny hehe |
| [00:49:00] | \Grooby\_: | with my 300gigs of porn |
| [00:49:00] | \Grooby\_: | that'll make my day |
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| [00:56:00] | xanderp: | didn't gentoo used to have you ln -s the timezone info instead of copying it to /etc/localtime ?? |
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| [01:14:00] | nitinshan: | hey, how would i be able to list the channels on my dish satellite since the connection to the computer stays at one channel? i have a ir blaster |
| [01:14:00] | dev-: | by configuring your zap2it feed correctly? |
| [01:15:00] | nitinshan: | oh i use zap2it for that? |
| [01:15:00] | nitinshan: | i wasnt sure |
| [01:15:00] | dev-: | thats where you get the channel information regardles of sat reciever or not |
| [01:15:00] | nitinshan: | oh |
| [01:15:00] | nitinshan: | i undestand |
| [01:16:00] | nitinshan: | so i guess i create an account on zap2it and all that good stufF? |
| [01:16:00] | dev-: | yup |
| [01:16:00] | dev-: | there's a code in the docs you need(?) to use to create the account |
| [01:16:00] | nitinshan: | what about the ir blaster, how do i tell the computer to switch channels on the dish box and tv |
| [01:17:00] | dev-: | dunno, personally i dont have a cable box i need to control. from what i hear its done with scripts that are mapped in lirc — but id check the docs for a crystal clear answer on that |
| [01:18:00] | nitinshan: | ugh |
| [01:18:00] | nitinshan: | so complicatedf |
| [01:18:00] | dev-: | not really :) lirc handles all the remote stuff. myth just talks to it. |
| [01:18:00] | dev-: | so what you really need is lirc help hehe |
| [01:19:00] | nitinshan: | either way, its taking ages to go to the signup page |
| [01:19:00] | nitinshan: | damn slow servers |
| [01:19:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [01:19:00] | dev-: | man where did i put my weed |
| [01:19:00] | dev-: | brb |
| [01:20:00] | NightMonkey: | nitinshan: What model irblaster? |
| [01:21:00] | nitinshan: | umm i bought a winTV-PVR 150 MC kit |
| [01:21:00] | nitinshan: | and it came w/ one |
| [01:22:00] | dev-: | nitinshan: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html#ss8.7 |
| [01:22:00] | dev-: | check that out, i think that'll help you. |
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| [01:25:00] | Kury: | dev- I'm back... recompiled.. re emerged lirc... I'm not sure what to do next though.. it looks like everything is compiling ok now.. when I do the emerge.. |
| [01:26:00] | dev-: | thats a good thing =] |
| [01:26:00] | dhofstra: | Kury which IR device did you end up getting (think I was talking to you the other night...) |
| [01:27:00] | Kury: | ya.. we were fighting w/ it.. |
| [01:27:00] | Kury: | I'm not sure to tell you the trueth.. I *think* its the pctv driver.. but I'm not sure.. its a serial IR reciever made by Pinnacle Systems (it originaly came w/ a capture card) |
| [01:29:00] | Kury: | this looks to be it on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/AS-NEW-Pinnacle-PCTV-TV-T . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [01:29:00] | Kury: | thats the remote and serial IR reciever anyways.. |
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| [01:31:00] | Kury: | at this URL: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_LIRC I'm not sure what this means: (You may have to do a config-kernel --allow-writable=yes for lirc to compile.) where/how? |
| [01:32:00] | slide: | arg i cant seem to get transcoding to work, I installed Knoppmyth and im not sure what else i have to do to transcode to divx/xvid and to a dvd compat format |
| [01:37:00] | Kury: | dev: you still around? |
| [01:40:00] | Dagmar: | Kury: You have to be compiling lirc for that documentation to be relvant. Are you compiling lirc right now? |
| [01:41:00] | Kury: | that documentation is specific to gentoo and it says to do it around the emerge step?... am I suppose to pass it as a USE flag? |
| [01:42:00] | Dagmar: | That you should ask in #Gentoo |
| [01:42:00] | Kury: | in there now... and its been a no go for the same 2 days I've been in here :( |
| [01:43:00] | nitinshan: | anyone know of any good pvr's for windows? |
| [01:46:00] | dev-: | wrong place to ask dude heh. |
| [01:47:00] | Kury: | hey dev.. is this a USE flag or a command line program I'm suppose to run somewhere?? "config-kernel --allow-writable=yes" any ideas? I can't find it.. |
| [01:48:00] | dev-: | hrm, dunno what that is. |
| [01:48:00] | Kury: | did you say you had gotten lirc to work on your system or no? |
| [01:49:00] | dev-: | yup, 2 of them. |
| [01:49:00] | dev-: | thats for lirc? then it probably needs to be put in make.conf as LIRC_OPTS |
| [01:49:00] | dev-: | but whatever howto you're reading should specify what needs to be done with it. |
| [01:50:00] | Kury: | well its specified kind of as an extra... if the mainstream part of the HOWTO doesn't cut it for ya.. |
| [01:50:00] | Kury: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_LIRC right below the first pink box.. |
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| [01:52:00] | dev-: | dunno, i didnt have to do that on my boxes |
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| [01:56:00] | Kury: | what receivers do you have? |
| [01:56:00] | dev-: | 3 pvr250's |
| [01:57:00] | Kury: | nice.. |
| [01:57:00] | Kury: | did you have to do anything other than add LIRC_OPTS="--with-driver=hauppauge" |
| [01:57:00] | Kury: | to your /etc/make.conf? |
| [01:57:00] | dev-: | no thats all i added |
| [01:57:00] | Kury: | and emerge.. |
| [01:58:00] | dev-: | yup |
| [01:58:00] | Kury: | what did you do after that? |
| [01:58:00] | dev-: | created lircd.conf, lircrc, symlinked lirc0 to ./lirc/0 because its changed in the new vrsion but the init script hasnt |
| [01:58:00] | dev-: | and thats it |
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| [02:00:00] | dev-: | oh, and loaded the lirc kernel modula. lirc_i2c |
| [02:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [02:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | just watched some porn via aalib |
| [02:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
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| [02:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | that just made my day |
| [02:01:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [02:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | (yes..i am bored..waiting for my box to finisn emerge -e tree) |
| [02:02:00] | dev-: | i use my myth boxes as little slave children when compiling |
| [02:02:00] | dev-: | yay distcc |
| [02:02:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [02:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehehe |
| [02:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | i had desktop upstair |
| [02:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | but i didn't feel like waiting for distcc to emerge |
| [02:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [02:03:00] | \Grooby\_: | too late now |
| [02:03:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehehe |
| [02:03:00] | dev-: | doesnt speed up my desktop too much, but the p3 450 laptop really enjoys distcc |
| [02:03:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [02:03:00] | dev-: | its also a frontend |
| [02:03:00] | dev-: | remote tv for the kitchen/bathroom/garage/wherever |
| [02:04:00] | dev-: | hdtv will be poop since i cant stream that over wireless |
| [02:04:00] | dev-: | let alone play it on that lil thing |
| [02:04:00] | \Grooby\_: | you need a bigger wireless |
| [02:04:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [02:05:00] | Skaface: | run 2 wireless cards and load balance between them |
| [02:05:00] | dev-: | but you need 2.4ghz to display hdtv |
| [02:05:00] | dev-: | i think a p3 450 is a tad below that |
| [02:05:00] | Skaface: | thats a fair point |
| [02:05:00] | dev-: | heh! |
| [02:05:00] | Kury: | dev: so what does it mean if I can't modprobe lirc_i2c? |
| [02:06:00] | dev-: | lirc didnt compile? |
| [02:06:00] | \Grooby\_: | you didn't do the mythtv dance after you sacrafice the virgin monkey |
| [02:06:00] | dev-: | that damn dance gets me everytime |
| [02:06:00] | Kury: | but it emerged succesfully.. |
| [02:07:00] | \Grooby\_: | did you have i2c whatever thingy enabled in your kernel? |
| [02:07:00] | \Grooby\_: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [02:07:00] | \Grooby\_: | good guide to follow |
| [02:09:00] | Kury: | the kernel .config shows CONFIG_I2C=y whats going on here... |
| [02:09:00] | dev-: | it could be a different name, check for lirc_* |
| [02:10:00] | dev-: | its like, lirc_driver or something |
| [02:10:00] | dev-: | for me, and other huappage owners its lirc_i2c |
| [02:10:00] | dev-: | it might be different for your card? |
| [02:10:00] | dev-: | check modules dir or buffer for output from the end of the emerge |
| [02:11:00] | dev-: | you have pinnacle right |
| [02:11:00] | dev-: | Pinnacle PCTV remote |
| [02:11:00] | dev-: | If the lirc_serial driver will not work... |
| [02:11:00] | dev-: | lirc_serial it looks like. |
| [02:12:00] | dev-: | \Grooby\_: yeah thats the exact thing i used setting up my first mythbox last summer |
| [02:12:00] | Kury: | .. well the howto url says its lirc_drivername os mine should be from my understandings lirc_pctv |
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| [02:12:00] | Kury: | where can I look for the module files? |
| [02:14:00] | dev-: | /lib/modules/kernelversion |
| [02:14:00] | Kury: | don't know if it will help.. but I have a system that this device will hook up to and run.. anything we can look at from it? |
| [02:16:00] | dev-: | just read the docs when you're doing this carefully and you wont have any probs |
| [02:16:00] | dev-: | that lirc_serial thing came from the doc you pasted earlier :P |
| [02:16:00] | Kury: | I found a lirc_dev.ko and lirc_serial.ko but when i modprobe lirc_serial it spits out an error.. Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter |
| [02:16:00] | dev-: | oh nice, i shouldnt be alive is on |
| [02:16:00] | dev-: | thats one of my favorite tv shows |
| [02:16:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [02:17:00] | dev-: | thats is not good |
| [02:17:00] | slide: | I think i dont have codecs for transcoding, how do i install more? |
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| [02:18:00] | dev-: | Kury: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_LIRC#Module_doesn.27t_load |
| [02:18:00] | Kury: | anything we can take from the system it works on to help us? |
| [02:19:00] | dev-: | that may apply to your device |
| [02:21:00] | Kury: | I'll try taking the serial support out of the kernel.. see if that fixes it.. |
| [02:21:00] | Kury: | thanks |
| [02:21:00] | dev-: | you could try the quicker solutions first |
| [02:21:00] | dev-: | since compiling a kernel takes like 2hrs on your box? hehe |
| [02:22:00] | Kury: | no.. its fairly quick.. I was just in the middle of other stuff earlier when I needed to do it.. |
| [02:23:00] | Kury: | I don't think the *quicker* method applies to me anyways.. those aren't the errors I'm getting from dmesg |
| [02:26:00] | Kury: | where are the serial port options in the kernel config? |
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| [02:35:00] | Weezey: | anyone set up myth on an xbox? |
| [02:36:00] | Weezey: | I've got the USB soldered on, but I can't get the usb drive to be read on the PC with the ozxmemory.exe |
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| [02:42:00] | DarkBeer_: | anyone using a gravis gamepad with mythgame? seems if I set joytype to anything other than 0, 1, or 2, mythgame won't start. I figured I would need to set joytype to 3 (usb) |
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| [02:51:00] | eidolon: | evenin. |
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| [03:02:00] | xanderp: | ok, i screwed up on my partitions and accidentally created my / as xfs. is there a simple way to backup everything in my / to another machine and then reformat the / as ext3 then put it all back to / and have it work? |
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| [03:23:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: You could use tar and nc and do it that way maybe? |
| [03:23:00] | Krazylegz: | That's what I do. |
| [03:24:00] | dmz: | anyone here use nuvexport? |
| [03:24:00] | xanderp: | i found that (google) as well... I don't have nc on the box that I'm wanting to convert, but I will install that... |
| [03:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, it's pretty handy. |
| [03:25:00] | dmz: | krazylegz was that to xanderp? |
| [03:25:00] | xanderp: | dmz: yes |
| [03:25:00] | Krazylegz: | dmz: Yes. |
| [03:25:00] | dmz: | :( |
| [03:25:00] | xanderp: | echo... echo... |
| [03:25:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html is a nice little primer for it. |
| [03:25:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: You don't want to use dd though, but rather tar. |
| [03:26:00] | dmz: | is there anything other than nuvexport available that i can use to save recordings to dvd or elsewhere? |
| [03:27:00] | xanderp: | if you direct connect two nextels next to each other and time the button's correctly, you can get a PREFECT movie-style submarine 'ping' to echo off of them... (a bit of useless knowledge) |
| [03:28:00] | xanderp: | i love the -GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE use flag!! (I actually LOL'ed when i saw it!) |
| [03:29:00] | tetra: | hello! |
| [03:30:00] | tetra: | is there something I need to configure in mysql to fix this? I'm trying to run mythfrontend remotely |
| [03:30:00] | tetra: | Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.11' (111) |
| [03:30:00] | dev-: | you have mysql binding to localhost and not that interface? |
| [03:30:00] | rinco: | the quick test: telnet 192.168.1.11 3306 |
| [03:31:00] | xanderp: | there's also the mysql security, as well as that my.conf file |
| [03:31:00] | tetra: | dev-: i changed it from localhost to 192.168.1.11 |
| [03:31:00] | tetra: | thanks |
| [03:32:00] | tetra: | rinco: yeah, connection refused, i'll go check it out |
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| [03:33:00] | tetra: | dev-: did you mean this line in my.cnf? bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| [03:33:00] | dev-: | yup =] |
| [03:34:00] | tetra: | ok then? |
| [03:34:00] | dev-: | no, that is bad right |
| [03:34:00] | tetra: | do you know the syntax for that? is it space separated, comma delimited? |
| [03:35:00] | xanderp: | nano my.cnf |
| [03:35:00] | xanderp: | there's also that conf of mysql that doen't have networking turned on by default these days... |
| [03:36:00] | tetra: | not this one, skip-networking is commented |
| [03:36:00] | rinco: | that'd be skip-networking |
| [03:36:00] | tetra: | can i have it bind to more than one address?? |
| [03:37:00] | rinco: | i dont even specify bind-address, just port |
| [03:37:00] | tetra: | rinco: do you run mythfrontend remotely? |
| [03:37:00] | rinco: | yes |
| [03:38:00] | tetra: | i'm still getting Host '192.168.1.1' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
| [03:39:00] | dev-: | still, thats a new error |
| [03:39:00] | tetra: | i think that's the way it was before, i forget |
| [03:39:00] | tetra: | don't think my scrollback goes that far |
| [03:39:00] | dev-: | permissions on the user you're logging in to mysql with |
| [03:39:00] | tetra: | (each time i try to run mythfrontend it scrolls a lot) |
| [03:39:00] | dev-: | you'll need to change those. |
| [03:40:00] | tetra: | oh |
| [03:40:00] | tetra: | i don't know how to use mysql |
| [03:40:00] | rinco: | so get something like phpmyadmin |
| [03:40:00] | tetra: | i never did get that to work |
| [03:41:00] | tetra: | oh wait, that's because i couldn't get php to work, which i just did last night for mythweb (which is still 7 hours off) |
| [03:41:00] | Krazylegz: | tetra: Wow. Baby steps, okay? :-) |
| [03:42:00] | Krazylegz: | tetra: Which distro? |
| [03:42:00] | tetra: | heh |
| [03:42:00] | tetra: | gentoo |
| [03:42:00] | tetra: | i'm not a newb, just a mysql new |
| [03:42:00] | tetra: | b |
| [03:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
| [03:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Which version of MySQL did you emerge? |
| [03:43:00] | defaultro: | tetra, you can add mysql user with host coming from 192.168.1.1 then flush privileges it :) |
| [03:43:00] | tetra: | it says 4.0.25 when i ran mysql -p |
| [03:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
| [03:43:00] | tetra: | defaultro: that's greek to me |
| [03:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Can you login to MySQL via the command-line? |
| [03:43:00] | tetra: | yes mysql -p |
| [03:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Good. |
| [03:43:00] | defaultro: | let me write the insert statemetn for you |
| [03:44:00] | xanderp: | tetra: best i've found is to google for the gentoo mythtv install instructions, there is a REALLY good howto on setting up mysql for remote access... (step-by-step) |
| [03:44:00] | tetra: | i fed it 'help' and it doesn't show insert |
| [03:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, you're doing a remote frontend? |
| [03:44:00] | tetra: | xanderp: i could do that, i didn't know what to search for before |
| [03:44:00] | tetra: | Krazylegz: yeah, local frontend already works |
| [03:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Cool. |
| [03:44:00] | tetra: | Krazylegz: i already have the user mythtv set up |
| [03:45:00] | Krazylegz: | In MySQL? |
| [03:45:00] | tetra: | (mysql user, that is) |
| [03:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
| [03:45:00] | xanderp: | yeah, there's an awesome guide on remote frontend mysql setup if you google mythtv gentoo mysql |
| [03:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Password 'mythtv'? |
| [03:45:00] | tetra: | yeah |
| [03:45:00] | defaultro: | grant select,insert,update on whateverdb.* to 'mythtv'@'192.168.1.1' identified by 'mythtvpassword' |
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| [03:46:00] | defaultro: | or you can you insert too to the table user |
| [03:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, if the user already exists then he shouldn't insert into the users table. |
| [03:46:00] | xanderp: | is his subnet 192.168.0.0? |
| [03:46:00] | tetra: | no |
| [03:46:00] | defaultro: | insert into user values('192.168.1.1','mythtv',password('mythtvpass'),'Y','Y','Y'....and so on) |
| [03:46:00] | tetra: | 192.168.1.0 |
| [03:47:00] | defaultro: | then flush privileges; |
| [03:47:00] | codword: | Any of you run into an issue recently where a db schema gets 'upgraded' for no reason and the result is a trashed settings table ? |
| [03:47:00] | tetra: | Krazylegz: you know the right command? |
| [03:47:00] | codword: | (upon starting a client) |
| [03:48:00] | Krazylegz: | tetra: I can give you the SQL, but I would tell you to do it from PhpMyAdmin. |
| [03:48:00] | defaultro: | anyone of you guys uses a DVICO Fusion HDTV card? |
| [03:48:00] | xanderp: | tetra: mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [03:48:00] | xanderp: | mysql> flush privileges; |
| [03:48:00] | tetra: | xanderp: cool, sure that % shouldn't be *? |
| [03:48:00] | xanderp: | nope |
| [03:49:00] | xanderp: | mysql uses % for * |
| [03:49:00] | xanderp: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [03:49:00] | tetra: | xanderp: do i have to save, or anything like that? |
| [03:49:00] | defaultro: | so one online right now that has a fusion card :) ok |
| [03:49:00] | xanderp: | flush privileges; |
| [03:50:00] | tetra: | xanderp: thanks, but I think that probably took care of it |
| [03:50:00] | defaultro: | so no one online ...... |
| [03:51:00] | tetra: | wow the fonts in frontend are ginormous on this system |
| [03:51:00] | xanderp: | tetra: you must have set the USE="ginormous" flag in your make.conf (hehe) |
| [03:52:00] | tetra: | heheh |
| [03:52:00] | tetra: | probably those size settings in xorg.conf |
| [03:52:00] | dev-: | try screwing around with settings in mythtv first :) |
| [03:52:00] | dev-: | you know like, Appearance ;) |
| [03:52:00] | rinco: | are there deb packages to fix up this qt timezone bug thing? |
| [03:53:00] | tetra: | now i'm getting could not connect to the master backend server, is your IP configured correctly? error.. I'll go read the f'in HOWTO |
| [03:53:00] | dev-: | rinco: upgrade qt |
| [03:53:00] | dev-: | rinco: last year we had this problem, was an old version, you may have been useing a fix or whatever on an older version |
| [03:53:00] | dev-: | any of the newer versions should be fine. |
| [03:53:00] | dev-: | what ver of qt? |
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| [03:53:00] | xanderp: | File: /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [03:53:00] | xanderp: | DBHostName=localhost |
| [03:53:00] | xanderp: | ... |
| [03:54:00] | xanderp: | tetra: |
| [03:54:00] | xanderp: | change that to your backend |
| [03:54:00] | rinco: | i think im using 3.3.5 |
| [03:54:00] | xanderp: | (that's the part i always forget) |
| [03:54:00] | codword: | Any of you using a mysql server NOT on your primary backend ? |
| [03:54:00] | dev-: | doh well that would shoot any of that down heh |
| [03:54:00] | dev-: | though would be funny if that was reintroduced that |
| [03:54:00] | dev-: | -that |
| [03:55:00] | tetra: | xanderp: oh |
| [03:55:00] | dev-: | ooh dinner afk. |
| [03:55:00] | xanderp: | i think it's strange that mythtv-setup doesn't fix the mysql.txt file for you... |
| [03:55:00] | tetra: | xanderp: i don't have an /etc/mythtv on this box |
| [03:55:00] | tetra: | xanderp: i'm on 192.168.1.1 and mythtv backend is on 192.168.1.11 |
| [03:55:00] | xanderp: | locate mysql.txt |
| [03:56:00] | tetra: | don't have one on this machine |
| [03:56:00] | tetra: | or i have to run slocate -u |
| [03:56:00] | xanderp: | if you don't find it, do this: updatedb && locate mysql.txt |
| [03:56:00] | tetra: | shouldn't it be in /etc somewhere? |
| [03:57:00] | xanderp: | not sure |
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| [03:57:00] | tetra: | i emerged mythtv on this box just to get mythfrontend |
| [03:57:00] | xanderp: | #USE=frontendonly emerge mythtv |
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| [03:59:00] | tetra: | eh? :) |
| [03:59:00] | xanderp: | tetra: that will cause you to only install as a frontend |
| [03:59:00] | Igg-man: | Is there something that will delete any extra video files I have in my store that are not in the database? |
| [03:59:00] | dev-: | before you emerge stuff on gentoo, you usually want to see what its useflags are first — emerge -vp packagename |
| [03:59:00] | xanderp: | you can add frontendonly to your make.conf USE flags as well |
| [03:59:00] | dev-: | it should be a regular thing that you do |
| [04:00:00] | tetra: | dev-: i know i know, i just didn't notice |
| [04:00:00] | tetra: | xanderp: yeah, that's the preferred way, or package.use |
| [04:00:00] | codword: | try: strace -f mythbackend 2>&1 | grep open | grep mysql |
| [04:00:00] | ** codword whistles ** | |
| [04:00:00] | EnterUserName: | MYTHTV IS MY HERIO |
| [04:00:00] | EnterUserName: | :) |
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| [04:01:00] | xanderp: | my dd if=/dev/hda3 is up to 1.2 gig so far... (grunt) |
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| [04:02:00] | Igg-man: | xanderp: what are you doing? |
| [04:02:00] | tetra: | slocate -u takes forever |
| [04:03:00] | codword: | dude |
| [04:03:00] | codword: | try: strace -f mythbackend 2>&1 | grep open | grep mysql |
| [04:03:00] | xanderp: | backing up my / partition to reformat it as ext3 (screwed up and made it xfs) |
| [04:03:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: That will copy your XFS filesystem bit for bit. You don't want to do that? |
| [04:03:00] | codword: | that'll tell you, in order, where your mythbackend binary is looking for mysql.txt |
| [04:03:00] | tetra: | codword: me? |
| [04:03:00] | codword: | yeah, you're wondering where mysql.txt is right ? |
| [04:04:00] | codword: | it's not important where it is. |
| [04:04:00] | xanderp: | Krazylegz: ?? ummm ok... I need to change the / from xfs to ext3... best practice method? |
| [04:04:00] | codword: | what's important is where mythbackend wants it to be. |
| [04:04:00] | tetra: | kind of, not sure why i was, it connects to the mysql database on 192.168.1.11 now, but it won't connect to the master backend server |
| [04:04:00] | codword: | that command will show you. |
| [04:04:00] | codword: | oh sorry |
| [04:04:00] | codword: | coming into the conversation late |
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| [04:04:00] | codword: | you're dealing with a frontend then ? |
| [04:04:00] | tetra: | ok |
| [04:04:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: I would do something like tar -zcvf myfiles.tar.gz / , or use nc and tar if you don't have enough hard drive space on that system. |
| [04:05:00] | tetra: | yes, i have myth running on 192.168.1.11, backend and frontend work for a long time on that |
| [04:05:00] | tetra: | i'm setting up mythfrontend on 192.168.1.1 (this box) |
| [04:05:00] | xanderp: | Krazylegz: can i tar a running / filesystem, or do i need to boot from cd or something? |
| [04:05:00] | tetra: | xanderp: boot from cd |
| [04:05:00] | codword: | 1sec tetra |
| [04:05:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: I would boot from CD to do any of this stuff. |
| [04:05:00] | tetra: | i'm reemerging with frontendonly |
| [04:06:00] | xanderp: | crap crap crap |
| [04:06:00] | codword: | tetra, on your backend, show me the output of this command: |
| [04:06:00] | xanderp: | universal install cd no has netcat... |
| [04:06:00] | codword: | echo SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value='BackendServerIP' | mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg |
| [04:06:00] | tetra: | xanderp: you don't have a spare hard drive?? |
| [04:07:00] | xanderp: | tetra: not in this machine... |
| [04:07:00] | xanderp: | pita to open up |
| [04:07:00] | tetra: | ERROR 1054 at line 1: Unknown column 'BackendServerIP' in 'where clause' |
| [04:07:00] | codword: | you typed it wrong :( |
| [04:07:00] | xanderp: | i'm going to try knoppmyth boot to see if it has netcat on it. |
| [04:08:00] | tetra: | codword: you mean, you typed it wrong |
| [04:08:00] | tetra: | codword: i copied and pasted |
| [04:08:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: Use Knoppix? |
| [04:08:00] | EnterUserName: | crap |
| [04:08:00] | dev-: | xanderp: you can tar a running filessytem, you just need to make sure things like mysql are shutdown and you exclude proc, things like that.. |
| [04:08:00] | Krazylegz: | KnoppMyth should have a package list. |
| [04:08:00] | dev-: | that way you can do it on 1 disc. |
| [04:08:00] | codword: | stupid quotes |
| [04:08:00] | codword: | tetra, sorry, try this: |
| [04:08:00] | tetra: | thanks |
| [04:08:00] | codword: | echo SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value=\'BackendServerIP\' | mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg |
| [04:09:00] | tetra: | data |
| [04:09:00] | tetra: | 127.0.0.1 |
| [04:09:00] | tetra: | wtf |
| [04:09:00] | codword: | ok hold on |
| [04:09:00] | Krazylegz: | dev-: You should also switch to like runlevel 2. |
| [04:09:00] | codword: | echo SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value=\'MasterServerIP\' | mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg |
| [04:09:00] | dev-: | shutting down everything, definitely. |
| [04:09:00] | tetra: | codword: so i need to rerun mythsetup on the backend? |
| [04:09:00] | codword: | no dude, just run that command please :) |
| [04:10:00] | dev-: | ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [04:10:00] | tetra: | codword: uh, i did |
| [04:10:00] | dev-: | but uh, nevermind i dont want to get into this ;p |
| [04:10:00] | codword: | echo SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value=\'MasterServerIP\' | mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg |
| [04:10:00] | codword: | that's a sligthly different query |
| [04:10:00] | tetra: | codword: you just pasted the same command |
| [04:10:00] | codword: | no.. look again |
| [04:10:00] | dev-: | damn heh. |
| [04:10:00] | xanderp: | i'm going to try to tar from knoppmyth bootcd |
| [04:10:00] | dev-: | im going to blow my sprite all over my monitors |
| [04:10:00] | tetra: | oh |
| [04:10:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [04:10:00] | ** codword taps his foot impatiently. ** | |
| [04:11:00] | tetra: | data |
| [04:11:00] | tetra: | 127.0.0.1 |
| [04:11:00] | tetra: | ] |
| [04:11:00] | codword: | ok |
| [04:11:00] | tetra: | fucking keyboards |
| [04:11:00] | codword: | heres what ya need to do |
| [04:11:00] | codword: | shut down your mythbackend service |
| [04:11:00] | codword: | then run these commands: |
| [04:11:00] | tetra: | i need one of those LCD-key-top keyboards so i can see in the dark |
| [04:11:00] | codword: | did you say your backend was 192.168.1.11 ? |
| [04:11:00] | tetra: | i think it's recording something now, let me check |
| [04:11:00] | tetra: | yeah |
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| [04:12:00] | tetra: | ok it's off |
| [04:12:00] | codword: | really? wierd. mine is 192.168.1.11 too :) |
| [04:12:00] | codword: | ok anyway, do this |
| [04:12:00] | tetra: | neat |
| [04:13:00] | codword: | echo SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value='BackendServerIP' | mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg |
| [04:13:00] | codword: | wait |
| [04:13:00] | codword: | heh |
| [04:13:00] | codword: | I am scatterbrained tonight |
| [04:14:00] | codword: | stupid RDP cut/paste! |
| [04:15:00] | codword: | echo UPDATE settings SET data=\'192.168.1.11\' WHERE value=\'BackendServerIP\' or value=\'MasterServerIP\'\; | mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg |
| [04:15:00] | codword: | there |
| [04:15:00] | tetra: | ok |
| [04:15:00] | codword: | work ok? |
| [04:15:00] | codword: | now start your backend backup and stuff |
| [04:15:00] | codword: | now your frontends should all be able to connect |
| [04:16:00] | tetra: | my local system is going to shit for some reason |
| [04:16:00] | codword: | "going to shit" ? |
| [04:16:00] | tetra: | mouse cursor was skipping around a bunch |
| [04:17:00] | tetra: | my ssh isn't returning to a local shell |
| [04:17:00] | EnterUserName: | Is it safe to downlaod the cvs version of mythtv now? |
| [04:17:00] | EnterUserName: | does the livetv work yet/ |
| [04:17:00] | xanderp: | seems like editing mysql.txt would have been easier.... ;) |
| [04:17:00] | Kury: | dev- I got it... finaly.. |
| [04:17:00] | tetra: | i ran mythbackend & |
| [04:17:00] | tetra: | then exit |
| [04:17:00] | EnterUserName: | Does the live mythtv work pretty well now? |
| [04:17:00] | EnterUserName: | in svn/ |
| [04:18:00] | codword: | what flavor of linux are you using on your backend ? |
| [04:18:00] | tetra: | gentoo |
| [04:18:00] | tetra: | lte let me double check the frontend on the myth box still works |
| [04:18:00] | codword: | well, I dont know what the proper way to start/stop mythbackend in gentoo is, but I am betting its not simply calling it directly... |
| [04:18:00] | tetra: | it is |
| [04:19:00] | dev-: | no, its not |
| [04:19:00] | dev-: | check out /etc/init.d |
| [04:19:00] | Kury: | dev- I got it... finaly.. |
| [04:19:00] | dev-: | Kury: excellent |
| [04:19:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [04:19:00] | codword: | check http://www.funroll-loops.org/ real quick... theres a HOWTO there with MythTV and gentoo |
| [04:19:00] | Kury: | dev: http://www.gentoo-portage.com/app-misc/lirc |
| [04:19:00] | dev-: | EnterUserName: last i heard a few days ago svn livetv was working |
| [04:19:00] | EnterUserName: | ok |
| [04:19:00] | dev-: | if its broken since then, then i dont know |
| [04:19:00] | EnterUserName: | ok |
| [04:19:00] | EnterUserName: | well i just dont know if is hould update |
| [04:19:00] | xanderp: | ok, i have a nfs mount to a machine with large HD via knoppix boot cd on /mnt/test and I have mounted the XFS / partition as /dev/hda3 on /mnt/hda3 can I just copy the entire / partition to a directory on the nfs share, reformat the / partition, and then copy it all back? if so, what copy command to use? |
| [04:19:00] | EnterUserName: | its working fine right now :) |
| [04:20:00] | EnterUserName: | and i know most people go by if it isnt broke then dont fix it |
| [04:20:00] | teevee: | codword: nevermind, you were right, /etc/init.d/mythbackend start |
| [04:20:00] | EnterUserName: | but you know it might make things better |
| [04:20:00] | EnterUserName: | hehehe |
| [04:20:00] | codword: | that sounds right |
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| [04:21:00] | dev-: | and whatever doesnt kill us makes us stronger |
| [04:21:00] | tetra: | oh damn, slocate -u is still running, that's probably why my system is so slow |
| [04:21:00] | tetra: | i need to go scsi |
| [04:21:00] | codword: | (Are you sure its not the spinners) |
| [04:21:00] | dev-: | or the vtech sticker |
| [04:21:00] | tetra: | and mythtv is still emerging |
| [04:21:00] | codword: | (re: http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
| [04:22:00] | dev-: | awesome, awesome site |
| [04:23:00] | ** codword mounts a spoiler on his mythbackend-server ** | |
| [04:23:00] | dev-: | im a bsd guy, portage is what made me use gentoo for my myth boxens |
| [04:23:00] | dev-: | portage and ports are so similar its nice heh |
| [04:23:00] | tetra: | that's like the only good thing they borrowed from bsd ;) |
| [04:24:00] | dev-: | yup. |
| [04:24:00] | xanderp: | from my bootcd can I just tar -zcvf backup.tar.gz /mnt/hda3 to backup the mounted hda3 partition? |
| [04:24:00] | dev-: | and the only reason i even use linux, which sucks btw, is for mythtv |
| [04:24:00] | tetra: | heh |
| [04:24:00] | dev-: | myth doesnt run all that great on bsd though its possible and have done it |
| [04:24:00] | rinco: | when mythbackend runs on mac ill be moving off lunix |
| [04:24:00] | tetra: | ewww |
| [04:24:00] | codword: | oh boy we have a hater :) |
| [04:24:00] | dev-: | i love darwin |
| [04:25:00] | tetra: | absolutely |
| [04:25:00] | dev-: | cant wait for that myself |
| [04:25:00] | codword: | bsd.. always in the shadow of linux :) |
| [04:25:00] | EnterUserName: | well here we go |
| [04:25:00] | ** EnterUserName crossses hsi fingers ** | |
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| [04:26:00] | ** EnterUserName crosses his fingers with compiling new version of mythtv :) ** | |
| [04:26:00] | codword: | mythfrontend-client on FEDORA Core 4 on Microsoft XBOX |
| [04:27:00] | codword: | times 5 |
| [04:27:00] | codword: | working nicely :) |
| [04:27:00] | tetra: | times 5? |
| [04:27:00] | ** NightBird was at a friends house who has a 10/2.5 Mbps connection... ** | |
| [04:27:00] | codword: | yea I got 5 of'em (5 TVs) |
| [04:27:00] | xanderp: | the xbox360 should make a nice frontend... hehe |
| [04:27:00] | NightBird: | and now I'm back to 56k... |
| [04:28:00] | dev-: | i wish there was a knoppmythxbox cd |
| [04:28:00] | tetra: | codword: five xboxes? |
| [04:28:00] | dev-: | i dont want to put linux partitions on my xboxs ;/ |
| [04:28:00] | codword: | tetra: mythtv is the only way to watch TV in my house |
| [04:28:00] | ** GreyFoxx needs to run through SVN again and make sure it still compiles under OpenBSD ** | |
| [04:28:00] | tetra: | codword: and five xboxes? |
| [04:28:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [04:28:00] | codword: | dev-: I dont have linux partitions, I boot off loopfs images.. e:\linux\root.img |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightMonkey: Hehe dialup is painful :) |
| [04:28:00] | codword: | tetra: ya |
| [04:29:00] | codword: | XBOX really works out well |
| [04:29:00] | codword: | for $50 bucks you get: DIGITAL SPDIF optical audio output, and component video output |
| [04:29:00] | codword: | cant really beat that :) |
| [04:29:00] | xanderp: | kinda sad that xbox = cheaper $$ than building an epia frontend box... |
| [04:30:00] | tetra: | that's cool |
| [04:30:00] | dev-: | loopsfs images, hrm hrm |
| [04:30:00] | codword: | dev- yeah.. dig this |
| [04:30:00] | tetra: | codword: what kind of mod chip do you have in those? |
| [04:30:00] | codword: | Sit down at any TV in my house, you get presented with a menu: |
| [04:30:00] | NightBird: | GreyMonkey: yeah, especially compared to before.. |
| [04:30:00] | codword: | 1. Play your choice of over 100 XBOX games (installed on local xbox HD) |
| [04:30:00] | codword: | 2. Play your choice of over 4,000 MAME Roms |
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| [04:30:00] | codword: | 3. Play your choice of over 7,000 SNES and NES Roms |
| [04:30:00] | dev-: | how do you make the xbox open the .img as an app without a default.xbe |
| [04:30:00] | codword: | 4. Launch MythTV |
| [04:30:00] | codword: | a. Watch Live TV |
| [04:30:00] | ** NightBird remembers an article where the people put together like... 6 xbox's in parallel to do some cluster computing.. ** | |
| [04:31:00] | codword: | b. MythVideo == 2,000 XVID-encoded DVD rips on demand |
| [04:31:00] | codword: | c.. etc etc |
| [04:31:00] | codword: | all on a $50 dollar xbox |
| [04:31:00] | NightBird: | apparently it sucked... to much lag across the network |
| [04:31:00] | Krazylegz: | XBoxen are a neat idea for distcc if you're doing a lot of compiling. |
| [04:31:00] | dev-: | yeah, they make awesome frontends but i always thought you had to put a linux partition on there |
| [04:31:00] | ** xanderp wonders where you get an xbox for 50 bucks ** | |
| [04:31:00] | tetra: | codword: which mod chips are you using in those? |
| [04:31:00] | dev-: | how do you get the dashboard to run the .img without an xbe? |
| [04:31:00] | codword: | dev-: Xebian has a .xbe that is a 'hacked' cromwell bootloader that supports rootfs imges |
| [04:31:00] | rinco: | xbox can be softmodded |
| [04:31:00] | rinco: | codword: you dont use xbmcmythtv ? |
| [04:31:00] | NightBird: | xanderpp, Illegally |
| [04:31:00] | dev-: | woah |
| [04:31:00] | codword: | tetra: no mod chips.. just softmod |
| [04:32:00] | codword: | rinco: no.. it sucks hardcore.. |
| [04:32:00] | codword: | rinco: although, honestly, I havent tried it in months |
| [04:32:00] | codword: | maybe its time for a revisi |
| [04:32:00] | rinco: | 2 minute boot time on xebian sucks hardcore too |
| [04:32:00] | codword: | t |
| [04:32:00] | dev-: | mines setup like yours minus the mythtv stuff. 120gig drives in both, some games on but i was scared of losing the drives so have all the of them on dvd as well (alot) heh. |
| [04:32:00] | codword: | rinco: yeah |
| [04:32:00] | dev-: | and the emus for snes/nes/genesis/n64/psx/commodore64/atari heh |
| [04:32:00] | dev-: | but i didnt know you could run imgs from the dashboard |
| [04:32:00] | codword: | well I'm using FC4 not Xebian.. and I've got the boot time shaved down to about twice as fast as Xebian |
| [04:33:00] | rinco: | so... 1 minute |
| [04:33:00] | codword: | using linux 2.6.14 with pre-emptable low-latency desktop kernel and mythtv with realtime threads |
| [04:33:00] | xanderp: | sad but true, the only reason i would buy an xbox would be for a frontend... i hate console gaming... |
| [04:33:00] | codword: | yeah I'll grant ya.. it would be nice ot have a faster bootup |
| [04:33:00] | codword: | but, it boots bout as fast as any regular HTPC |
| [04:33:00] | codword: | plus I get ot have all the regular xbox stuff on top of it :) |
| [04:33:00] | dev-: | i need to look into that, could make an xboxmythdisc then |
| [04:34:00] | dev-: | that is so needed, many people would use xbox has a frontend with that |
| [04:34:00] | dev-: | its annoying to have to setup a linux partition on there, really is heh. |
| [04:34:00] | codword: | dev-: oh man.. running myth 'live' from xbox/cd ? |
| [04:34:00] | codword: | that would be painfully slow |
| [04:34:00] | dev-: | i guess either way you'd need a partition, blah |
| [04:34:00] | xanderp: | you could boot it from a nfs share |
| [04:34:00] | dev-: | not enough ram heh |
| [04:35:00] | dev-: | hrm |
| [04:35:00] | codword: | dev-: I use E: |
| [04:35:00] | codword: | but I could use F too I guess |
| [04:35:00] | codword: | most of my xbox's have 160 g drives |
| [04:35:00] | rinco: | dev: setup a linux partition? just copy the files into e:\debian |
| [04:35:00] | codword: | linux is only a 2gig file so.. no biggie |
| [04:36:00] | rinco: | xbox cant do pip either |
| [04:36:00] | codword: | rinco: say what? |
| [04:36:00] | rinco: | the ram usage goes from 60 meg to 90... swaps like the buggery |
| [04:36:00] | dev-: | if you were to make a ramdisk or something it cant right to xboxfs or whatever it is. |
| [04:36:00] | codword: | PIP works fine for me on 480i |
| [04:36:00] | codword: | 480p gets sluggish :) |
| [04:36:00] | codword: | 720p is unusable :( |
| [04:36:00] | rinco: | you only watch transcoded stuff? |
| [04:37:00] | rinco: | xbox was an alright mythfrontend for like... a year ago |
| [04:37:00] | codword: | I rarely transcode actually |
| [04:37:00] | eidolon: | hm. anyone have usb joysticks working with xmame under myth? or heck, just xmame working? :) i'm tyring to get things like keyboard bindings n stuff worked out, but the only config file i think xmame under myth is using is /etc/xmame/xmamerc – should i just noodle that? |
| [04:37:00] | codword: | well, its still good for NTSC sets |
| [04:37:00] | dev-: | or if you dont do hdtv |
| [04:37:00] | dev-: | yeah |
| [04:37:00] | codword: | we only have one good TV in the house anyway |
| [04:37:00] | tetra: | ok, how do i make the fonts smaller in mythfrontend? |
| [04:37:00] | codword: | and I have a 'real' htpc on it.. 720p |
| [04:37:00] | dev-: | tetra: 22:52 <dev-> you know like, Appearance ;) |
| [04:37:00] | tetra: | htpc? |
| [04:37:00] | ** codword slaps tetra with wikipedia ** | |
| [04:38:00] | xanderp: | hehe... codword trout slapping... fishy isn't it? |
| [04:38:00] | codword: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTPC |
| [04:38:00] | codword: | well.. normally I go by 'doc' |
| [04:39:00] | codword: | but.. nickserv bitched at me |
| [04:39:00] | codword: | (I dont normally use this network) |
| [04:39:00] | codword: | What theme do you guys like best? |
| [04:39:00] | xanderp: | i hate the cartoon'ish ones |
| [04:40:00] | tetra: | dev-: nice, i set it small, but the descriptions in the program guide still aren't wrapping |
| [04:40:00] | dev-: | girlfriend wont let me change it from gant |
| [04:40:00] | codword: | Trivilus seems the best to me |
| [04:40:00] | xanderp: | ughhh |
| [04:40:00] | codword: | Ok, another off-topic question |
| [04:40:00] | dev-: | osd is trivilus i guess it is, i always call it tittilus ;/ |
| [04:40:00] | codword: | Anyone doing firewire capture yet? :) |
| [04:41:00] | dev-: | damn cable box doesnt have it. |
| [04:41:00] | dev-: | should call and bitch, apprarently its required now. |
| [04:41:00] | xanderp: | i like the one that is like the minimalist one, but ISN'T the minilmalist one... (can't remember the name) |
| [04:41:00] | tetra: | is there a way to make the descriptions in the program guide to wrap within the boxes? |
| [04:42:00] | codword: | I'm wondering if the 'new' HDTV DirecTV service will be firewire'able ? |
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| [04:42:00] | codword: | I have regular DirecTV now.. |
| [04:43:00] | dev-: | gonna hitup some nfs:mw. just wan a lamborghini(ap) galado last night, thing is just instanely fast. |
| [04:43:00] | dev-: | lateron guys. |
| [04:43:00] | dev-: | won, and sp, jesis |
| [04:43:00] | dev-: | getting started early on the drunkness and i only had 2 beers heh |
| [04:43:00] | dev-: | late. |
| [04:43:00] | codword: | heh |
| [04:43:00] | codword: | right behind ya bro |
| [04:44:00] | tetra: | si |
| [04:45:00] | codword: | Any of you guys using MythPhone ? |
| [04:47:00] | ** codword drops a needle ** | |
| [04:47:00] | xanderp: | nope |
| [04:48:00] | tetra: | is there a switch to disable xscreensaver for mythfrontend? |
| [04:48:00] | tetra: | kind of like -stop-xscreensaver for mplayer |
| [04:49:00] | codword: | Would anyone be interested in my program that updates your videometadata with imdb info without having to do it one by one through the menus ? |
| [04:50:00] | tetra: | would that work for my archive of xvid encoded DVDs? |
| [04:51:00] | tetra: | like *.avi |
| [04:52:00] | codword: | yep as long as the filenames are the names of the movies |
| [04:52:00] | codword: | I have 14 250G drives of XVID .avi files |
| [04:52:00] | xanderp: | ok, i finished tar -zcvf backup.tar.gz /mnt/hda3 what would the syntax be to explode that back to the reformatted /dev/hda3 mount? |
| [04:52:00] | codword: | thats how I maintain them :) |
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| [04:53:00] | t00m: | xanderp: you may use -p flag as well |
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| [04:53:00] | eidolon: | okay, in mythgame – is there a way to 'jump' to a specific game by mame? i have too many roms in my list. |
| [04:54:00] | codword: | MameOX > MAME |
| [04:54:00] | eidolon: | how very helpful. |
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| [04:54:00] | EnterUserName: | i cant make up my mind if the new version of mythtv is bette rthen the one i was using |
| [04:57:00] | tetra: | using mythfrontend to watch tv.. :) i'm getting sick of all the bleeding scanlines though |
| [04:58:00] | morfic: | can i delete all entries of the frontend if the front end is showing false colors to kind of reset it, or is there something kept locally causing the fals colors? |
| [05:00:00] | eidolon: | anyway – any ideas on the keystrokes? like, i'd like to search for a game called, say, 'rampart' |
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| [05:01:00] | EnterUserName: | what are scanlines? |
| [05:01:00] | EnterUserName: | whats ntsc resolution? |
| [05:02:00] | EnterUserName: | in north america |
| [05:02:00] | EnterUserName: | 5 what? |
| [05:02:00] | EnterUserName: | 544.. |
| [05:02:00] | Dagmar: | 525 |
| [05:02:00] | EnterUserName: | 525 by what? |
| [05:02:00] | EnterUserName: | 544x525? |
| [05:02:00] | Dagmar: | but basically only about 480 of those are used for image |
| [05:02:00] | Dagmar: | by what? |
| [05:02:00] | Dagmar: | THere is no what |
| [05:02:00] | EnterUserName: | for resolution |
| [05:02:00] | EnterUserName: | what should i sue |
| [05:03:00] | EnterUserName: | 544x525? |
| [05:03:00] | Dagmar: | Scanlines are analog from left to right.. There are no pixels |
| [05:03:00] | Dagmar: | Aim for 480 high |
| [05:03:00] | EnterUserName: | thanx |
| [05:04:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [05:04:00] | EnterUserName: | my stupid screen blurs |
| [05:04:00] | EnterUserName: | it must be my card |
| [05:05:00] | Dagmar: | Blurs doing what? |
| [05:05:00] | EnterUserName: | dunno |
| [05:05:00] | EnterUserName: | the quality gets messed up |
| [05:05:00] | Dagmar: | Are you just trying to set the video mode of the display to match the data coming from the card? |
| [05:05:00] | EnterUserName: | sometimes |
| [05:05:00] | EnterUserName: | ya |
| [05:05:00] | Dagmar: | Just use 640x480 then |
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| [05:05:00] | EnterUserName: | would that stop the blurring? |
| [05:06:00] | EnterUserName: | deinterlacing helps a bit |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | It won't do anything about the blurring. You're going to need a deinterlacing filter for that |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | There's like five built into Myth |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | I usually use the kernel one |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | er the one with "kernel" in the name, that is |
| [05:07:00] | EnterUserName: | yu[p |
| [05:07:00] | EnterUserName: | im using that one right now |
| [05:08:00] | Dagmar: | If you're having a problem with blurring, you can try the one that sez "less motion blur" in it |
| [05:08:00] | xanderp: | i usually only have problems with blurring after 3 double scotch... |
| [05:09:00] | tetra: | heh |
| [05:09:00] | xanderp: | speaking of which... xanderp is afk |
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| [05:11:00] | Emmett: | Hey, folks. Does anyone know anyone that sells MythTV as part of an off-the-shelf PVR? |
| [05:12:00] | ** xanderp loves the smell of scotch ** | |
| [05:12:00] | tetra: | is that legal? |
| [05:12:00] | xanderp: | i suppose you could sell the hardware that just so happens to have a functioning pvr on it... as long as you were only selling the hardware... not the software. |
| [05:12:00] | EnterUserName: | thats odd |
| [05:12:00] | ** xanderp has not a clue to legalities ** | |
| [05:12:00] | EnterUserName: | im getting htis error message |
| [05:12:00] | EnterUserName: | with mythtv |
| [05:13:00] | EnterUserName: | Invalid file handle when opening /media/video/mythtv/1039_20051126001337.mpg. 6 retries remaining. |
| [05:13:00] | EnterUserName: | whats that mean/ |
| [05:13:00] | Emmett: | Why wouldn't I buy the software? |
| [05:13:00] | Emmett: | I mean, sure, GPL yaddayadda, but I'd be paying for the service of someone else doing all the stupid work for me. |
| [05:14:00] | ** xanderp has not a clue to legalities ** | |
| [05:15:00] | xanderp: | but if i put out a software for free, and someone started selling it, i'd be pissed |
| [05:16:00] | Emmett: | This is a discussion that really doesn't need to be had here, but it's absolutely legal to sell machines with GPL software on it |
| [05:16:00] | EnterUserName: | man this sucks |
| [05:16:00] | EnterUserName: | the newm ythtv isnt recording stuff |
| [05:16:00] | tetra: | Emmett: ok, thanks |
| [05:17:00] | morfic: | sweet, doctored mysql db and now im back fullscreen and w/o false colors |
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| [05:17:00] | Goose-Npa: | anyone here playing emulators on there mythtv? |
| [05:18:00] | tetra: | i have a notebook for that :) |
| [05:18:00] | xanderp: | crap... i restored the tar file and it created subdirectories. what's the syntax to move everything from /mnt/hda3/mnt/hda3/ up to /mnt/hda3 ??? |
| [05:19:00] | tetra: | xanderp: mv /mnt/hda3/mnt/hda3/* /mnt/hda3 |
| [05:19:00] | xanderp: | thanks |
| [05:21:00] | EnterUserName: | eek |
| [05:21:00] | EnterUserName: | the new svn vversion is having problems |
| [05:22:00] | tetra: | i love how dirt cheap hard drives have been lately |
| [05:22:00] | EnterUserName: | ua m,e too |
| [05:22:00] | EnterUserName: | i bought a 250 gig for 16 |
| [05:22:00] | EnterUserName: | 160 |
| [05:22:00] | EnterUserName: | 250 for $160 dollars |
| [05:22:00] | tetra: | 300 is $122 now |
| [05:22:00] | tetra: | or less |
| [05:22:00] | xanderp: | the thanksgiving sales were pretty good... although i didn't partake |
| [05:22:00] | EnterUserName: | really? |
| [05:22:00] | tetra: | ya |
| [05:22:00] | EnterUserName: | well thats 160 canadian |
| [05:23:00] | EnterUserName: | lol |
| [05:23:00] | EnterUserName: | so yers is probably 122 american |
| [05:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm, anyone wanna give me an opinion..... plain notify box here : http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd16.jpg |
| [05:23:00] | xanderp: | hurrah!!! i successfully changed my / partition from xfs to ext3!!! |
| [05:24:00] | tetra: | yeah |
| [05:24:00] | t00m: | and why is that good? |
| [05:24:00] | EnterUserName: | Hey whats this error messaghe |
| [05:24:00] | EnterUserName: | Invalid file handle when opening /media/video/mythtv/1038_20051126002511.mpg. |
| [05:24:00] | xanderp: | t00m: i have corrupted more than one xfs file system... ;) |
| [05:24:00] | t00m: | EnterUserName: is the file 0 bytes ? |
| [05:24:00] | EnterUserName: | depends |
| [05:25:00] | EnterUserName: | it says that when i run the live tv |
| [05:25:00] | EnterUserName: | 4 tries..3..tries. |
| [05:25:00] | t00m: | xanderp: hm, did you do the same thing to an ext3? |
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| [05:26:00] | xanderp: | ?? no... i meant to make my / partition ext3 and accidentally made it xfs, so i wanted to change to ext3 |
| [05:26:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: You're still working on this? |
| [05:26:00] | xanderp: | nope it finished |
| [05:29:00] | EnterUserName: | how do you make it so it deletes the temp files |
| [05:29:00] | EnterUserName: | that it uses for buffer |
| [05:29:00] | EnterUserName: | with mythtv |
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| [05:30:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: All is on ext3 and working now? |
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| [05:31:00] | xanderp: | Krazylegz: yes |
| [05:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Excellent. |
| [05:31:00] | xanderp: | Krazylegz: not everything installed, but gentoo is working on ext3 / partition... now to setup X and mythtv, lirc, etc... |
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| [05:34:00] | tetra: | i don't understand the hangup on having a remote control |
| [05:34:00] | xanderp: | tetra: you need to talk to my wife |
| [05:35:00] | tetra: | i'd rather just use a keyboard, that way i can control x and firefox and stuff :) |
| [05:36:00] | tetra: | and irc |
| [05:36:00] | Krazylegz: | My mom and housemate probably preferred/prefer having a remote. |
| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | But most are setting this up to act like a settop box, not a PC that just happens to be connected to the TV |
| [05:36:00] | xanderp: | tetra: but not all that 'living room friendly' |
| [05:36:00] | EnterUserName: | hey is anyone know hwo to get rid of the files mythtv creates |
| [05:36:00] | EnterUserName: | while watching the program |
| [05:36:00] | EnterUserName: | its not under recorded shows |
| [05:36:00] | EnterUserName: | and im deleting them manually |
| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | EnterUserName: They are expired when space is needed |
| [05:36:00] | tetra: | xanderp: my mini keyboard is 4"x9" |
| [05:36:00] | EnterUserName: | oh great |
| [05:36:00] | EnterUserName: | but i have a 200 mb files |
| [05:37:00] | EnterUserName: | erk 200g ig drive |
| [05:37:00] | EnterUserName: | i dont want it to full it up |
| [05:37:00] | EnterUserName: | with these stupid files |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | "they are expired when space is needed" |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | when myth needs space it will remove them |
| [05:37:00] | EnterUserName: | ya but that means i need a seperate drive for myth |
| [05:37:00] | EnterUserName: | and i cant use it for other video things |
| [05:37:00] | tetra: | EnterUserName: are you talking about the ring buffer? |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I saw captain murdoch mention that he was gonna add a auto cleanup after a configurable amount, 1–60 days |
| [05:37:00] | EnterUserName: | not sure |
| [05:38:00] | EnterUserName: | it didnt do this with previous versiosn that i noticed |
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| [05:38:00] | EnterUserName: | is it a new feature? |
| [05:38:00] | tetra: | it doesn't leave the tv ring buffer behind |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | the ringbuffer is no more |
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| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | LiveTV is very different under the hood now |
| [05:38:00] | tetra: | no more? |
| [05:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Arg. |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | all shows get their own file |
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| [05:39:00] | tetra: | nice |
| [05:39:00] | tetra: | so changing channels doesn't mean it gets nuked |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | so you can hit "record" in the middle of livetv and it will save all the way back to where the show started, or as far back as the buffer goes for that show |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | tetra: exactly |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | and for me at least, channel changing is much faster |
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| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | though some others don't see the saem improvement |
| [05:40:00] | tetra: | i'm still using an ancient version i guess |
| [05:40:00] | tetra: | but i don't mind |
| [05:40:00] | tetra: | yeah, channel changing is ass |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I don't use livetv except to test the new functionality so I don't care too much about channel changing |
| [05:40:00] | tetra: | but i almost always use the program listing to change channels |
| [05:40:00] | tetra: | i'm not a surfer |
| [05:41:00] | xanderp: | looking forward to the day when my [CC] will work with my pvrx50 recordings and livetv... <sigh> |
| [05:41:00] | tetra: | why [CC]? |
| [05:41:00] | ** xanderp is hard of hearing ** | |
| [05:41:00] | tetra: | you use relay? |
| [05:42:00] | xanderp: | i use captions whenever possible, but the pvr350 and mythtv don't play well together for them |
| [05:42:00] | tetra: | i never tried it on my 150 |
| [05:42:00] | tetra: | is there a key to toggle? |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | T I think |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I don't think there is code in myth to support it with the pvr cards |
| [05:43:00] | tetra: | it says CC/TXT is disabled |
| [05:43:00] | xanderp: | something about how the pvrx50's work doens't work right with the mythtv |
| [05:43:00] | tetra: | d'oh |
| [05:43:00] | xanderp: | i know the pvr's WILL do cc in windows, but we don't have a working method in linux yet. |
| [05:44:00] | xanderp: | (doesn't seem to be high on the dev's list of priorities) |
| [05:44:00] | tetra: | sorry to see that |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not really |
| [05:45:00] | xanderp: | :( |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not a feature any of them use, and none of the people that want it are stepping up with code |
| [05:45:00] | xanderp: | xanderp can barely SPELL code, let alone write any... |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though last I read the main issue was more driver related than anything else |
| [05:46:00] | xanderp: | i know that ckennedy (of ivtv) has done a fair amount of tinkering with the vbi stuff for it, and i think it should work, but not with mythtv |
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| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | Hi GreyFoxx, how are you? |
| [05:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Fine, little sleepy |
| [05:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just messing my OSD theme ideas |
| [05:48:00] | xanderp: | i love "Updating Portage cache: 52%" sticks for like 5 mins then is 100% complete... |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | I haven't updated my myth since May. Any new cool themes that were added? |
| [05:48:00] | Led-Hed: | I want to record a VHS tape with Myth, is there an easy way to tell myth to manually record on my 3rd PVR-250 and on SVideo input? |
| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | honestly I don't know. I've always used SVN so I don't remember exactly when every piece was added :) |
| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Isthmus was added after 0.18 |
| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Project Grayhem started last week |
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| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the OSd I started |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | other than that I dunno :) |
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| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Led-Hed: Not really without program data |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Your easiest doing it manually :) |
| [05:50:00] | Led-Hed: | ;( |
| [05:51:00] | Led-Hed: | would be nice to be able to tell myth to record from VHS or VideoCamera.. |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | I think, I got isthmus |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | it's the greenland right? |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | pardon ? |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | i mean, the background is a nice green lawn or field |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | no,k isthmus is an OSD theme only |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | mostly blue n silver |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | i forgot what I have then |
| [05:52:00] | Led-Hed: | is there another program for linux that I can use the PVR-250 to capture video? |
| [05:52:00] | xanderp: | greenland, isthmus, fjords, iceland... hehe |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Led-Hed: Dunno |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | lol |
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| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Led-Hed: Why not just hit play and then cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg ? |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | then just CTRL-C when done |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | i'm planning to add my second hdtv card. Do you think fusion is nice with mythtv and linux? |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea |
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| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | what about you xander? |
| [05:53:00] | Led-Hed: | GreyFoxx, that would be fine, but how do I tell it to use the SVideo input? |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Led-Hed: ivtvctl |
| [05:53:00] | Led-Hed: | GreyFoxx, thanks |
| [05:53:00] | xanderp: | GreyFoxx: wouldn't he have to pick /dev/videoX for the correct card as well? |
| [05:54:00] | xanderp: | don't know squat about fusion/mythtv |
| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | xanderp: I assumed he had enough brains to replace /dev/video0 if it was not the correct device :) |
| [05:54:00] | xanderp: | hehe |
| [05:54:00] | xanderp: | assumptions on your part lead to confusion on mine (xanderp isn't that bright) |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, do you still see mchou sometimes? |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think he is in here most days |
| [05:56:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:56:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [05:56:00] | xanderp: | "oh, you mean i actually have to have television reception to record television?" "well forget it then..." |
| [05:56:00] | defaultro: | i think he bought fusion card |
| [05:56:00] | defaultro: | i'll just try tomorrow |
| [05:57:00] | xanderp: | performance wise is there any diff between the pvr500 and 2 pvr250's? wondering if i should sell off my 250's and replace w/500 for added density in case i want to put in more tuners. |
| [05:57:00] | Dagmar: | Might as well go ahead and do it |
| [05:57:00] | Dagmar: | 500's work fine |
| [05:58:00] | xanderp: | sameo sameo? |
| [05:58:00] | Dagmar: | ...or just get a 500 and worry about adding more tuners later. Use all four now |
| [05:58:00] | xanderp: | ahh, but there's the wife acceptance factor hitting my budget... |
| [05:59:00] | xanderp: | (and the lack of slots in my mobo) |
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| [06:01:00] | EnterUserName: | there should be amount of space that you can say how much to save as |
| [06:01:00] | EnterUserName: | i dont mind the new format btu you should be able to tell it how much disk space to save |
| [06:01:00] | tetra: | how's the price compare? |
| [06:01:00] | tetra: | 500 more than twice the cost of two 150s? or less? |
| [06:02:00] | xanderp: | not sure |
| [06:02:00] | xanderp: | i think the 500 is probably a little more than 2 250's (or 150's or whatever) |
| [06:02:00] | xanderp: | do they not make 250 |
| [06:02:00] | xanderp: | anymore |
| [06:04:00] | xris: | tetra: about the same as two retail 150's, more than two MCE ones |
| [06:05:00] | xris: | only real reason for a 500 is if you are short on pci slots and have analog cable. |
| [06:05:00] | xanderp: | is a 150 as good as a 250? the check boxes on the hauppauge web site seem to say so, but why would they put out a cheaper model that is as good as their 250? seems odd |
| [06:06:00] | xris: | xanderp: 150 is supposedly slightly better |
| [06:06:00] | tetra: | xris: yes, and yes |
| [06:06:00] | xanderp: | hrmmm |
| [06:06:00] | tetra: | analog cable (meh) |
| [06:06:00] | xris: | cheaper because ... newer cheaper parts, and MUCH larger distribution |
| [06:07:00] | xanderp: | so they came up with a cheaper and better model to compete with their 250. seems counterintuitive. like they would cost more. |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | tetra: anything other than analog cable requires a breakout panel for the 500, which takes up an extra pci slot on the back of the machine. |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | xanderp: it's the official "windows media center edition" card. |
| [06:07:00] | xanderp: | ahh |
| [06:07:00] | tetra: | xris: you mean back plate, not pci slot, right? |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | components have dropped in price since the 250 came out |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | tetra: well, slot on the case, not on the motherboard. |
| [06:08:00] | xanderp: | nice that I invested in a 350 and 2x250's when they were expensive aye? |
| [06:08:00] | tetra: | xris: does that run on a ribbon or is it directly below it? |
| [06:08:00] | EnterUserName: | is the 350 better thjen the 150? |
| [06:08:00] | EnterUserName: | whats the diff? |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | tetra: ribbon, I think. |
| [06:08:00] | xanderp: | 350 does hardware decode to tv out |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | EnterUserName: 350 is a 250 with mpeg-accelerated video out |
| [06:08:00] | tetra: | xris: if it's a ribbon then I could put it up on one of the unused slot if it's a full tower case |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | but ONLY does mpeg. |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | so you can't use it with .avi, etc. |
| [06:08:00] | Dagmar: | tetra: It's a multistranded wire connector. Not quite a ribbon because they don't stick to each other, but it's long enough to skip over two other slots, thankfully |
| [06:08:00] | EnterUserName: | oh ok |
| [06:09:00] | xris: | tetra: yes.. dunno how long it is. |
| [06:09:00] | xris: | anyway, back to my movie... |
| [06:09:00] | EnterUserName: | so 150 is ok? you can always convert to avi mpeg |
| [06:09:00] | tetra: | i'm using a hauppauge pvr150 |
| [06:09:00] | tetra: | er pvr150mce |
| [06:10:00] | Dagmar: | Mind you, the *first* tuner's s-video and composite inputs are on the back plate of the 500 just like they are on all the other runters |
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| [06:12:00] | poonj: | hey guys...anyone here have a pcHDTV-3000? |
| [06:12:00] | poonj: | I'm using udev now, and for some reason, the firmware isn't loaded at bootup normally as before... |
| [06:12:00] | poonj: | is there a way to activate the firmware loading at bootup? |
| [06:13:00] | tetra: | i like it so far, except my analog signal sucks so bad it sometimes makes my internet cut out |
| [06:13:00] | tetra: | poonj: is it a kernel module? |
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| [06:15:00] | poonj: | tetra, yeah, but the module is loaded.. |
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| [06:16:00] | tetra: | i never upgraded to udev, i completely reinstalled at that time |
| [06:19:00] | poonj: | ummm |
| [06:19:00] | poonj: | tetra, what was before udev? |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | devfs |
| [06:23:00] | kormoc: | and before that, static /dev |
| [06:24:00] | tetra: | was devfs removed? |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | as of 2.6.12 or .13 |
| [06:24:00] | kormoc: | was depreatiated as of 2.5.x |
| [06:25:00] | Kury: | as far as I know the devfs was officialy removed in 2.6.14... |
| [06:27:00] | EnterUserName: | ls |
| [06:28:00] | kormoc: | EnterUserName, irc: ls: command not found |
| [06:28:00] | EnterUserName: | huh kormoc? |
| [06:28:00] | Dagmar: | devfs was fairly broken to begin with |
| [06:29:00] | Dagmar: | udev is actually what devfs was _supposed_ to be |
| [06:29:00] | kormoc: | EnterUserName, nm, was a crappy joke anyway |
| [06:29:00] | EnterUserName: | lol |
| [06:29:00] | EnterUserName: | well you shoudln't have did a rm -rf / |
| [06:29:00] | kormoc: | Dagmar, devfs worked fairly well for a long time, but yeah, udev is a godsend. |
| [06:29:00] | EnterUserName: | and you would have been fine :) |
| [06:31:00] | tetra: | deprecated |
| [06:32:00] | codword: | OH what the fuck table is it that has program groups? |
| [06:32:00] | ** codword grumbles. ** | |
| [06:33:00] | codword: | recgrouppassword? |
| [06:34:00] | EnterUserName: | where is the lirc module |
| [06:34:00] | EnterUserName: | is it in the kernel |
| [06:34:00] | EnterUserName: | or is it an external module |
| [06:34:00] | kormoc: | google it? |
| [06:34:00] | EnterUserName: | but im lazy kormoc |
| [06:36:00] | EnterUserName: | stupid kernel is taking too long |
| [06:36:00] | EnterUserName: | to compile |
| [06:37:00] | Dagmar: | kormoc: devfs only worked properly if your driver was one of those which could be used with it |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | lazy and impatient, not a good combo for linux :P |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | Dagmar, didn't most get support? |
| [06:37:00] | Dagmar: | kormoc: If you had, for example, a USB-connectable PDA, you were pretty much SOL |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [06:37:00] | kormoc: | pre hotplugable stuff, it was quite workable |
| [06:38:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but now we've got *tons* of hot pluggable USB stuff |
| [06:38:00] | Dagmar: | ...and more devices on the way |
| [06:39:00] | kormoc: | very true |
| [06:40:00] | EnterUserName: | i dont think is houdl have compiled all these modules in my kernel |
| [06:40:00] | EnterUserName: | should have just kept it simple |
| [06:47:00] | tetra: | is there a way to make mythfrontend disable xscreensaver, similar to mplayer's -stop-xscreensaver? |
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| [06:57:00] | tetra: | EnterUserName: or <m> them |
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| [06:57:00] | EnterUserName: | hrm |
| [06:57:00] | EnterUserName: | I can't compile lirc on suse 10 |
| [06:58:00] | EnterUserName: | stupid compiler is too new for the lirc module i have no idea how they did it in the first place |
| [06:58:00] | t00m: | how can a compiler be too new? |
| [06:59:00] | EnterUserName: | lol |
| [06:59:00] | tetra: | probably meant something else |
| [06:59:00] | EnterUserName: | the gcc compiler 4.02 |
| [06:59:00] | EnterUserName: | has stricter laws |
| [06:59:00] | EnterUserName: | so it wont compile |
| [06:59:00] | EnterUserName: | or stricter rules bah |
| [06:59:00] | tetra: | so use an older gcc |
| [06:59:00] | t00m: | well, why would anyone use gcc4 in a non development system? |
| [07:00:00] | EnterUserName: | I do not know |
| [07:00:00] | EnterUserName: | but Suse 10 did it |
| [07:00:00] | t00m: | per default? |
| [07:00:00] | EnterUserName: | yup |
| [07:00:00] | t00m: | incredible |
| [07:00:00] | EnterUserName: | default installation |
| [07:00:00] | EnterUserName: | and its driving me nuts |
| [07:00:00] | xris: | so does fedora, but it's a development OS |
| [07:01:00] | EnterUserName: | the CVS version of lirc still doesnt work with the new compiler |
| [07:03:00] | tetra: | i'm still using gcc 3.3.6 |
| [07:03:00] | EnterUserName: | well i could compile gcc 3.3.6 but everyone advises against it cuz of the way the libraries work |
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| [07:05:00] | tetra: | and that's probably where the problem is, not the compiler |
| [07:06:00] | tetra: | maybe there's newer version of lirc or patches |
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| [07:11:00] | Led-Hed: | GreyFoxx, you still awake? |
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| [07:53:00] | tetra: | hi |
| [08:02:00] | t00m: | i accidently deleted a channel and now it doesn't reappear if i use the channel editor to scan again |
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| [08:11:00] | Kury: | when I try & start irxevent why would I get "connection refused"? |
| [08:11:00] | diamon: | Ok, I've done everything I could think of to stop it, but my mythtv system is still eating recorded episodes, in spite of disabling auto-expire for the recording group. Anyone know offhand what I'm missing? I don't want it to delete anything EVER. I'd prefer it to crash and burn in howling flames than to remove anything for me. I've got over 100Gb free still, so space isn't the issue... |
| [08:11:00] | diamon: | Kury: I get that message if the lircd daemon isn't up, or not set right. |
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| [08:12:00] | Kury: | how or it what way could the daemon not be up right? .. I know its running |
| [08:13:00] | diamon: | FC3 did that with me due to a lack of a /dev/lirc. I had to make a symlink from /dev/lirc0 to /dev/lirc. You sure it's running? My system showed lircd up, but the first time I touched it it'd shut down. |
| [08:14:00] | Kury: | if I do pidof lircd it gives me a #... It does however work if I start lircd manualy vs through /etc/init.d/... |
| [08:14:00] | diamon: | I'm sure there's a config option to tell it not to touch /dev/lirc, but I did the quick-and-dirty fix and did that. Come to think of it, while I have time I might want to look at that again... |
| [08:15:00] | diamon: | Kury: Not sure then, that's a bit odd. |
| [08:16:00] | diamon: | Checked your logs? I found what was making my lircd mad in my message log as I recall. |
| [08:20:00] | diamon: | Oh, and any suggestion on a good editor to clip out commercials? Linux or Windows is fine, either way. The system has a PVR-150 so the source would be mpeg-2. |
| [08:22:00] | cosmo_: | only linux video editor I know of is cinelerra, or cinerella, one of those two ;) |
| [08:22:00] | Kury: | It looks like an error of: "readlink() failed for /dev/lirc0" but right above that it says "accepted new client on /dev/lircd" which is where the device is... are these suppose to be two different devices or is it just refferencing the wrong path somewhere? |
| [08:22:00] | FITH: | there's also ProjectX and avidemux... I've had more luck with the former then the latter |
| [08:23:00] | diamon: | Kury: I'm not sure. That's the error I had I think. I made a symlink from lirc0 to lirc for mine, but yours seems to be talking about lirc0, so I'm not sure it's the same thing. |
| [08:23:00] | diamon: | cosmo: Oh yeah, forgot about Cinelerra... |
| [08:24:00] | Kury: | .. I made a symlink of "ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lircd" and it works now.. |
| [08:24:00] | Kury: | :) |
| [08:25:00] | diamon: | So anyone know what I need to do to get rid of the overall auto-expire for my poor system? At least it re-records what it geeks, but I lost a good run of Paranoia Agent to it... |
| [08:25:00] | diamon: | Kury: Cool! Again I don't think that's the 'proper' way to fix it, and in my FC3 system I had to put the symlink command in my rc.local file to re-add it every time the system reboots... |
| [08:26:00] | diamon: | And a 'service lircd restart' after that, too... |
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| [08:33:00] | Flimzy: | I just bought a dual-core Athlon XP machine that has only PCI and PCI-Express slots. Are there any PCI video cards with DVI (or HDMI) outputs that will have suitable performance for HDTV output? |
| [08:33:00] | Flimzy: | Or will I be forced to spend the extra money, and get PCI Express? |
| [08:35:00] | Flimzy: | I just bought a dual-core Athlon XP machine that has only PCI and PCI-Express slots. Are there any PCI video cards with DVI (or HDMI) outputs that will have suitable performance for HDTV output? |
| [08:35:00] | Flimzy: | Or will I be forced to spend the extra money, and get PCI Express? |
| [08:35:00] | diamon: | For HD? Err, I'd have to work the math. PCI is usually 33Mhz@32-bit, 132Mb/sec absolute max. For 720p, that'd be... Err, what's the width... |
| [08:35:00] | diamon: | Oh yeah, spam a bit less. If it's visible, asking again just makes me grumpy. :) not sure about others, but there it is. Anyway, let me look up that resolution... |
| [08:36:00] | Flimzy: | sorry bout the repeat! |
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| [08:39:00] | diamon: | Errr, I'd have to say anything PCI would be iffy to unlikely to handle even 720p HDTV, but that'd depend on a lot of factors I suppose. |
| [08:40:00] | Flimzy: | PCI cards can handle 'decent' frame rates at standard SVGA resolutions... like 1024x768, no? |
| [08:40:00] | Flimzy: | So are there other factors that make HDTV more difficult to handle? |
| [08:40:00] | Flimzy: | faster than 30fps or something? greater bitdepth? ? |
| [08:40:00] | diamon: | 720p looks to be 1280x720, 60fps. 1280*720*32bpp would be about 29Mb/frame, so that'd be a bit fun on the PCI bus. |
| [08:40:00] | Flimzy: | ah, 60fps... right |
| [08:41:00] | diamon: | If I did my math right, anyway. :) Always a problem with me, misplacing byte with kbyte... |
| [08:41:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [08:41:00] | Flimzy: | Well poop. I wish this thing had AGP |
| [08:41:00] | Flimzy: | So are there any reasonably priced PCI express cards out there that work well with Myth? |
| [08:41:00] | Flimzy: | I just grabbed a GeForce 6600... thinking this would support AGP |
| [08:41:00] | Flimzy: | darnit |
| [08:42:00] | diamon: | So at 60fps, assuming nothing's compressed or anything like that, that'd be 60*29Mb/second over the bus... |
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| [08:42:00] | diamon: | Even if I'm off by a factor and it's only 2.9Mb/frame, that'd be 180Mb/sec. |
| [08:42:00] | Flimzy: | And 1080i... would be roughly the same bandwidth (since it's interlaced instead of progressive)? or is it greater bandwidth yet? |
| [08:43:00] | Flimzy: | What's the bitdepth of HDTV? 24bpp? |
| [08:43:00] | diamon: | Flimzy: That'd be 1920x1080@30fps. |
| [08:43:00] | diamon: | I dunno. 24 or 32, I'm not clear which. |
| [08:43:00] | diamon: | If it's 24, reduce my numbers by 25%. |
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| [08:44:00] | Flimzy: | dang stupid computer. I need to get this new one setup so things will stop crashing |
| [08:45:00] | Flimzy: | Well 1280X720x32bpp = 29mbit/frame |
| [08:45:00] | diamon: | Flimzy: That'd be 1920x1080@30fps. I'm not clear on HDTV's bitdepth, I called it 32bpp, reduce by 25% if it's 24... |
| [08:45:00] | diamon: | Of course, 1080p would be just brutal. :P |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | @60fps, that would be ~1.7gbit/sec |
| [08:46:00] | cosmo_: | if you had the choice between athlon 64, 3000+ socket 939 and 3700+ socket 754, which would you choose? |
| [08:46:00] | Flimzy: | 1080i @ 30fps is only 13% more bandwidth |
| [08:47:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo_: it would depend on whether I wanted the ability to upgrade my CPU to dual-core later |
| [08:47:00] | cosmo_: | hmm, touche |
| [08:47:00] | cosmo_: | dual-core upgrades being 939? |
| [08:47:00] | Flimzy: | I just did 3 things i swore I'd never do today |
| [08:47:00] | Flimzy: | 1) Signed up for AOL |
| [08:47:00] | Flimzy: | 2) Purchased a pre-fab computer |
| [08:47:00] | diamon: | I'm coming up with more like 4Gbit, 1920*1080*32bpp*60fps=3981312000. |
| [08:47:00] | Flimzy: | 3) Bought it at... CompUSA of all places |
| [08:47:00] | diamon: | Flimzy: Arrgh, AOL! |
| [08:48:00] | Flimzy: | diamon: I actually signed up for 20 AOL accounts |
| [08:48:00] | diamon: | Pre-fab is fine in my book, though Comp.... |
| [08:48:00] | Flimzy: | If 1080i is 30fps, tho... |
| [08:48:00] | cosmo_: | I got two wifi g cards there, 6 bucks |
| [08:48:00] | Juski: | btw the best way to grab hdtv, would be with a hardware encoding hd card, which probably doesn't exist, and if the MPAA have anything to do with it – never will |
| [08:48:00] | cosmo_: | 200gb hdd, 30 bucks |
| [08:49:00] | Flimzy: | I'm hoping I can grap HDTV over firewire from my DVR |
| [08:49:00] | diamon: | Juski: Isn't there an Air2PC card that just grabs it in mpeg-2 format? |
| [08:49:00] | Flimzy: | in MPEG2 or whatever format it's in |
| [08:49:00] | Flimzy: | diamon: CompUSA was giving away a $250 gift-card for each 1-year AOL membership you sign up for. 1 year of AOL costs $180 |
| [08:49:00] | Juski: | it doesn't 'grab' anything – all it does is demodulate a data stream from given frequencies |
| [08:49:00] | Flimzy: | diamond: So I signed up for 20... got $5000 in gift cards, for $3580 |
| [08:50:00] | diamon: | Flimzy: Just be sure you worked out the numbers properly, I can't see why they'd give out more than they take in... |
| [08:50:00] | diamon: | Flimzy: But in that case, I can see signing up for AOL. :) |
| [08:50:00] | Hackel: | Here it was a $150 gift card. |
| [08:50:00] | Flimzy: | diamon: yeah, that's right. Everyone at CompUSA was openly admitting it. They said they sold some 600+ AOL memberships today |
| [08:50:00] | Flimzy: | many ppl got 10 or more |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | to buy HDTVs, etc |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | I intend to return and get a PowerBook and HDTV |
| [08:51:00] | diamon: | Same at my store I thought. |
| [08:51:00] | Hackel: | I was tempted to get that $99 computer to make into a mythtv box, sell the monitor, would be nice. But I wouldn't sign up for AOL. :) |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | and maybe a couple 19" LCD displays for my display |
| [08:51:00] | diamon: | The $150/year of AOL thingy, I mean. |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | Well in Wichita, it was $250 per year |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | er |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | per card |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | for $180/year of AOL |
| [08:51:00] | Juski: | are AOL _that_ desperate? |
| [08:51:00] | Hackel: | Amazing. I can't believe it wasn't limited to 1 per customer. |
| [08:51:00] | Flimzy: | The clerks did say that the Wichita store sold some 2/3 of all the AOL accounts in the country |
| [08:52:00] | Flimzy: | Perhaps it's b/c AOL was only running the $250 deal here? |
| [08:52:00] | Flimzy: | Hackel: It was supposedly limited to 4 accounts per credit card. But most of the clerks weren't enforcing that (probably due to the $8 commission they made on each sale) |
| [08:52:00] | Hackel: | heh, wow. |
| [08:52:00] | diamon: | Gotta love the power of greed... |
| [08:52:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [08:53:00] | Flimzy: | I can't decide if I should get a bigger HDTV, and forgo LCD monitors for another year or two |
| [08:53:00] | Flimzy: | or get a smaller HDTV, and some sweet monitors for my dual-head system |
| [08:53:00] | diamon: | So again, I turned off auto-expire in all my recording schedules, but my recordings still get eaten. What am I missing? I still have good amounts of space available... |
| [08:53:00] | diamon: | And I'd prefer for it to drop dead than auto-expire anything I didn't directly give it permission to. |
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| [08:55:00] | Flimzy: | Hmm... found a PCI Express card with only 16mb RAM for only $52 |
| [08:55:00] | Flimzy: | Does MythTV care how much video RAM you have? |
| [08:55:00] | Flimzy: | is 16mb even enough for a full-size display... /me begins to calculate |
| [08:56:00] | Flimzy: | Looks like 8mb would hold a full 1080x1920 image |
| [08:56:00] | Flimzy: | so 16mb could theoretically be enough... |
| [08:56:00] | Flimzy: | Anyone have thoughts on whether a 16mb GeForce 6200 would be adaquate for Myth on HDTV? |
| [08:57:00] | diamon: | Flimzy: Those cards are hideous. Equivalent to a built-in video card IMHO. They borrow main memory to operate. The 16Mb is a local texture cache or something as I recall. |
| [08:57:00] | Flimzy: | hmm |
| [08:57:00] | Flimzy: | okay, that's icky |
| [08:57:00] | Hackel: | I'm pretty sure such large memory sizes are only for running silly video games, not 2D. |
| [08:57:00] | diamon: | If it's not 64, I'm not interested. |
| [08:57:00] | Flimzy: | barely half a step ahead of the onboard Radeon Xpress 200 in this thing |
| [08:58:00] | Flimzy: | Hackel: That's pretty much my understanding, too |
| [08:58:00] | Flimzy: | But OTOH, most vid cards with small RAM, are also probably likely to skimp in other areas that actually matter, eh? |
| [08:58:00] | diamon: | That'd be my bet... |
| [08:58:00] | Flimzy: | I've been using an AGP GeForce 4 MX 440... but only at 640x480, and to a standard def TV |
| [08:58:00] | Flimzy: | that works fine... but 640x480 is a whole different ball of wax than HDTV |
| [08:59:00] | diamon: | Nothing says "Corporate" better than something they make cheap. |
| [08:59:00] | Flimzy: | (NTM the lack of HDTV output on that card) |
| [08:59:00] | Flimzy: | Here's another 6200 with 64mb 'onboard' |
| [08:59:00] | Flimzy: | only $53 |
| [08:59:00] | diamon: | That sounds sensible. |
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| [09:00:00] | dagfinnr: | hello! I know i |
| [09:00:00] | Flimzy: | looks like the same chipset as the 16mb version |
| [09:00:00] | diamon: | 64 is enough for a full frame of HD no matter how one does the math. |
| [09:00:00] | Hackel: | I've gotta figure out how to use all the extra RAM on my video card as a swap device. :) |
| [09:00:00] | dagfinnr: | 've seen a howto for debian, but cant find it anymore |
| [09:00:00] | Flimzy: | (altho for only $1.50 more, I may as well get the 64mb version) |
| [09:00:00] | dagfinnr: | anyone knows where to find a debian howto? |
| [09:00:00] | Flimzy: | dagfinnr: /usr/share/doc |
| [09:01:00] | dagfinnr: | Flimzy: :P a howto with debian/mythtv would be fine :) |
| [09:01:00] | Flimzy: | dagfinnr: I just installed the packages, mostly |
| [09:01:00] | Flimzy: | and read the docs in /usr/share/doc and on mythtv.org |
| [09:01:00] | Flimzy: | mostly mythtv.org |
| [09:02:00] | Flimzy: | Is anyone here actually using MythTV w/ HDTV? |
| [09:02:00] | dagfinnr: | thanks Flimzy |
| [09:03:00] | cosmo_: | anyone know if the linux svideo-out support functions with pci-based nvidia cards? |
| [09:03:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo_: It works on my AGP GeForce |
| [09:03:00] | Flimzy: | and they use the same driver |
| [09:03:00] | Flimzy: | so I'd imagine so |
| [09:03:00] | Flimzy: | I think it's more a hardware issue than a software one |
| [09:04:00] | cosmo_: | they do use the same driver? good. Ive got a bad taste in my mouth over the issue, never got an ati rage working because it was pci |
| [09:04:00] | Juski: | anyone here ever done any theme work in mythtv? I've been trying to make a theme with one row of buttons, navigated with the left & right arrow keys – but it doesn't seem possible.. _is_ it possible? |
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| [09:04:00] | Flimzy: | My understanding is ATI doesn't play well with Linux |
| [09:04:00] | cosmo_: | indeed not |
| [09:05:00] | diamon: | Yeah, under Linux I use only Nvidia. |
| [09:05:00] | cosmo_: | essentially my concern is with the kernel, a lot of the driver options seem to refer to apggart, and I dont know if that should be compiled in for pci based cards |
| [09:05:00] | Flimzy: | So should I get a GF SE5300 128mb, or a GF 6200 TC 64mb, for the same price? |
| [09:06:00] | MarineTim: | juski: doesn't the blue theme do that? |
| [09:06:00] | Juski: | MarineTim: no, not on my setup |
| [09:06:00] | cosmo_: | im no good for card advice |
| [09:06:00] | Flimzy: | If the 6200 is faster, as the greater numerical value would imply, I'd go for speed over RAM... but then I know GF sometimes plays with numbers (a la AMD) to confuse people |
| [09:06:00] | diamon: | If they can both do HDTV-out like you need, and are both about the same price, and you have no huge need for 3d games, I'd say get the 128Mb card. |
| [09:06:00] | MarineTim: | juski: thought it did... lemme try it real quick – brb |
| [09:06:00] | Juski: | 128MB is _way_ overkill |
| [09:06:00] | Flimzy: | I will not be playing any games (except eventually MAME) on this vid card |
| [09:07:00] | diamon: | Of course, I've been known to use video memory as a ramdrive at times just because. :) |
| [09:07:00] | Flimzy: | diamon: hehe... would be cool to dedicate some of my vid ram to swap :P |
| [09:07:00] | Juski: | 128MB of texture RAM... not even _my_ mythtv themes will take up that much |
| [09:07:00] | cosmo_: | diamon, is it a bad idea to get a card without dvi, in terms of investing for the future? How would svideo look in comparison |
| [09:08:00] | Juski: | dvi vs svid... a bit like comparing HDTV to 1970s NTSC |
| [09:08:00] | cosmo_: | wow, okay then |
| [09:08:00] | Flimzy: | Juski: In fact, that's exactly what it is |
| [09:08:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo_: If you know you'll never connect to an HDTV, or other digital display, then SVideo might be okay |
| [09:08:00] | cosmo_: | im having the hardest time finding a damn card for a frontend, making it cheap, yet useful for future uses |
| [09:08:00] | MarineTim: | juski: left/right/up/down work on my blue theme... but maybe I misunderstood your quetsoin? |
| [09:09:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo_: But most vid cards come wth DVI at no extra cost, so get it |
| [09:09:00] | Juski: | hmmm 'what colour is this supposed to be? I know... I'll guess' |
| [09:09:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo_: what is 'cheap'? |
| [09:09:00] | cosmo_: | 30dollar range |
| [09:09:00] | Juski: | MarineTim: look at this pic: http://www.juski.co.uk/frontmyth.png |
| [09:09:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo: Well these PCI-X cards I'm looking at are roughly $50 |
| [09:09:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo: you looking for AGP? |
| [09:09:00] | cosmo_: | im torn between getting agp/dvi, and pci/vga. Im tempted to get pci so I could use it in a xinerama setup at some point in the future, if I ever needed to |
| [09:10:00] | Juski: | one row of buttons, and you'd use left/right to make different buttons appear (with a highlight box so you know which has been selected) |
| [09:10:00] | cosmo_: | not pci-x, old pci :( |
| [09:10:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo_: Most new AGP/PCI-X cards support dual-head nativel |
| [09:10:00] | Flimzy: | y |
| [09:10:00] | MarineTim: | juski: I C. yeah, in my screen that looks like: http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/bluetvmenu.png – left/right work as expected. |
| [09:10:00] | Flimzy: | cosmo_: So spend $50 get a semi-nice card, and don't worry about ever using a second PCI card |
| [09:10:00] | cosmo_: | you mean one monitor to the vga port, other to the dvi, Im not terribly familiar how the dual head works |
| [09:10:00] | Flimzy: | Yeah |
| [09:10:00] | Flimzy: | that's how most work these days |
| [09:11:00] | Flimzy: | not as nice as both on DVI |
| [09:11:00] | Flimzy: | but hella better than one on PCI |
| [09:11:00] | cosmo_: | now that I didn't know, I assumed they would merely give the same signal |
| [09:11:00] | cosmo_: | good to know |
| [09:11:00] | Juski: | MarineTim: yeh but in menus where there are more buttons than screen space, it puts arrows on – then you use up/down to show/unshow them |
| [09:11:00] | Flimzy: | well, DVI is digital |
| [09:11:00] | Flimzy: | standard VGA is analog |
| [09:11:00] | Flimzy: | probably no noticable difference to the human eye |
| [09:11:00] | Flimzy: | unless your VGA cable is bad |
| [09:11:00] | cosmo_: | also comforting |
| [09:12:00] | MarineTim: | juski: ahhh. now *that* i don't know about. |
| [09:12:00] | cosmo_: | would you tell on a plasma screen the diff between dvi and vga? |
| [09:12:00] | Juski: | Flimzy: until analog panel monitors got better at locking to signals, there used to be quite an appreciable difference |
| [09:12:00] | Flimzy: | digital vs. analog signal |
| [09:12:00] | Flimzy: | Juski, Ah, something I was not aware of (having never owned a panel display) |
| [09:13:00] | Juski: | with DVI, if you have a digital display you'd missing out an extra analog to digital process |
| [09:13:00] | Juski: | SVGA to panel monitor... video starts out digital, gets converted to analog, then goes to the panel which converts it to digital again |
| [09:13:00] | Flimzy: | aye |
| [09:14:00] | Juski: | but DVI is all digi :) |
| [09:14:00] | Juski: | I've got both options here, and only a 19" TFT monitor and I can tell the difference |
| [09:14:00] | Flimzy: | interesting |
| [09:15:00] | Flimzy: | then maybe I'll care when I get 2 19" flat panels, too |
| [09:15:00] | Juski: | it's not a very big difference though |
| [09:15:00] | Flimzy: | maybe I should find a card with 2 DVI outputs? |
| [09:15:00] | Juski: | yeh maybe |
| [09:15:00] | Flimzy: | do they make those at a reasonable price? hehe |
| [09:15:00] | Juski: | and don't forget about the different types of DVI |
| [09:16:00] | Flimzy: | oh no |
| [09:16:00] | Flimzy: | what are the different types of dvi? |
| [09:16:00] | Juski: | there's DVI-A, DVI-D and DVI-I |
| [09:16:00] | Flimzy: | what's the diff? |
| [09:16:00] | Juski: | analogue, digital, and mixed respectively |
| [09:16:00] | Flimzy: | which do I want? |
| [09:16:00] | Juski: | basically with DVI-A it's analogue with a different plug on |
| [09:16:00] | Flimzy: | (and what is DVI analog? I thought DVI was digital?) |
| [09:17:00] | Juski: | for some odd reason the DVI standard allows you to use old fashioned analogue too |
| [09:17:00] | MarineTim: | and dual link DVI – needed to drive the apple 21" at full res. |
| [09:17:00] | ** Juski drools ** | |
| [09:18:00] | cosmo_: | they need to let us linux guys run the decisions on standards! god, multiple names for everything in the electronics industry! |
| [09:18:00] | Flimzy: | looks like finding a card w/ 2 DVI outputs will be hard |
| [09:18:00] | Flimzy: | so maybe I'll stick with what I have |
| [09:18:00] | cosmo_: | is this what the nvidia nview thing is? |
| [09:18:00] | Flimzy: | I think nview is just the name of their Windows driver/accessory program |
| [09:19:00] | cosmo_: | splitting the two ports, everytime Ive read about it I assumed it required two cards |
| [09:19:00] | MarineTim: | err, sorry – i meant the apple 30" running at 2560x1600. |
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| [09:22:00] | Flimzy: | I think it's time to start playing with my motorola DCT6412 again... and try to get it dumping video to the PC |
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| [09:23:00] | ** Juski goes to look in the sourcecode ** | |
| [09:26:00] | diamon: | So, I turned off auto-expire in all my recording schedules, but my recordings still get eaten. What am I missing? I still have good amounts of space available... Myth 0.18–1 |
| [09:27:00] | Juski: | bugger. |
| [09:28:00] | diamon: | Errgh, still 2.5 hours until Spinrite finishes... Guess I'll go watch some long movie or something. At least I don't have to run it very often! |
| [09:28:00] | Juski: | MarineTim: looks like line 176 of mythlistbutton.cpp tells me all I need to know.. there can only be vertical navigation to move around the array of buttons |
| [09:28:00] | MarineTim: | juski: bug report! ;) |
| [09:29:00] | Juski: | might be worth banging out a patch |
| [09:29:00] | MarineTim: | juski: surprised this hasn't come up before... |
| [09:29:00] | Juski: | so am I to be honest |
| [09:29:00] | MarineTim: | juski: did you poke around in mythtv-dev? |
| [09:29:00] | Juski: | yeh I asked in there |
| [09:29:00] | Juski: | nobody's replied yet |
| [09:29:00] | MarineTim: | :( |
| [09:30:00] | Juski: | the code looks simple enough |
| [09:31:00] | MarineTim: | juski: I'm not really qualified enough to say if its worth just writing the patch and submitting it... |
| [09:31:00] | MarineTim: | I am but a lowly user! |
| [09:31:00] | diamon: | That's the great thing about open source... You don't like it, go change it! :) |
| [09:31:00] | Juski: | thinking about it, with a widecsreen theme, wouldn't it be altogether better to be able to arrange buttons horizontally? |
| [09:31:00] | Juski: | use the screenspace :) |
| [09:32:00] | MarineTim: | yeah, well, who's to say its welcome in the codebase though? |
| [09:32:00] | Juski: | that's my point, MarineTim |
| [09:32:00] | diamon: | MarineTim: Exactly! |
| [09:32:00] | MarineTim: | Hey Isaac, where you at? ;) |
| [09:32:00] | Juski: | I know the UI code is in a state of flux (like they're gonna be moving to OpenGL in the future) |
| [09:33:00] | MarineTim: | yeah, i hear 0.19 is mostly backend fixes, and 0.20 will focus on revamping the frontend. |
| [09:33:00] | diamon: | Any word on a timeframe for 0.19 yet? |
| [09:33:00] | Juski: | shit – this will get me deeper into it than I imagined... lol |
| [09:33:00] | Juski: | diamon: when it's ready |
| [09:33:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [09:34:00] | MarineTim: | if I had a nickle for every time i heard that... |
| [09:34:00] | diamon: | Juski: Phbbtp! Ah well. Like I always told the game companies that I did beta stuff for, folks usually prefer less bugs over faster, so I'm game to wait, I was just wondering. |
| [09:34:00] | MarineTim: | *nickel |
| [09:35:00] | cosmo_: | always a good policy |
| [09:35:00] | diamon: | MarineTim: What part, the "when it's ready" or the "When"? |
| [09:35:00] | Juski: | 0.18 has been steady as a rock since I installed it |
| [09:35:00] | MarineTim: | lol! |
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| [09:35:00] | diamon: | Juski: I keep getting crashed out with 'invalid free' errors. |
| [09:35:00] | Juski: | so I'm kinda like "bugs? what bugs?!" |
| [09:36:00] | diamon: | LoL, it always crashes when I try to show it off to non-linux folks, and I haven't gotten it to auto-respawn yet. :P Not the best first impression, but I always have that kind of luck it seems. |
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| [09:37:00] | MarineTim: | juski: well, aren't they adding a few scripts to automatically power up/down the machine when it needs to record and what not? |
| [09:38:00] | Juski: | I thought it already had that |
| [09:38:00] | arnducky: | Flimzy, the ATI Radeon VE had dual outputs — if DVI-A is good enough you can use adapters. Also some competing GeForce card may have 1xDVI-A and 1xHD15 ('VGA port') interfaces, certainly ATI does. |
| [09:38:00] | MarineTim: | lemme find the reference to it. |
| [09:38:00] | Juski: | I need it on all the time anyway – never know when I'm gonna need to schedule a recording |
| [09:39:00] | MarineTim: | i use my mythtv box as a router as well, so I keep it up 24/7. |
| [09:40:00] | Juski: | and my frontend is diskless, so if I went powered-down I'd end up in a chicken & egg scenario |
| [09:40:00] | MarineTim: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7571 |
| [09:41:00] | diamon: | That's something else I always meant to set up; diskless booting... Never did, no big need so far, but still... |
| [09:41:00] | Juski: | I'm gonna have to seriously re-think this theme plan |
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| [09:42:00] | MarineTim: | is there a mythtv themes mailing list? |
| [09:42:00] | Juski: | either that or rework the code, but then I'd have 2 big projects on the go at the same time, with xmas coming up |
| [09:42:00] | Juski: | MarineTim: no |
| [09:42:00] | MarineTim: | there should be. |
| [09:42:00] | Juski: | ahhhh .. the dev list |
| [09:43:00] | Juski: | I'll leave the #mythtv window open though – see if anyone replies |
| [09:43:00] | Juski: | patience being the #1 virtue around here ;) |
| [09:43:00] | Juski: | MarineTim: nobody (til recently) has been doing any theme effort at all |
| [09:44:00] | Juski: | and it's fair to say that there've been more important things to do |
| [09:44:00] | MarineTim: | yeah – i recall the wide theme coming out around the same time as 0.18, IIRC. |
| [09:45:00] | Juski: | my Project Grayhem theme is juuust about ready to roll now. It works fine with 0.18 but has something missing that it'll need to work with SVN (and 0.19) |
| [09:46:00] | MarineTim: | yeah, I saw your post on the ML. ;) |
| [09:47:00] | Juski: | dammit.. mythwelcome & mythshutdown.. more things to theme. I think I'd better crank up my development machine next week |
| [09:47:00] | MarineTim: | whats #mythtv on? openprojects.org? |
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| [09:49:00] | t00m: | what is that: Nov 26 17:41:25 theDude bt878(0): irq FBUS risc_pc=26714028 |
| [09:55:00] | diamon: | Sounds like a card ID for a mac to me. |
| [09:56:00] | t00m: | this is in my syslog |
| [09:56:00] | t00m: | risc_pc value changes every time |
| [09:57:00] | t00m: | bt878 is the booktree module, i guess |
| [09:57:00] | cosmo_: | sorry to ask this question again, but theres this deal hear that requires my quick decision. Which athlon64 system would perform better? socket 754 3700+ or a socket 939 3000+ |
| [09:57:00] | cosmo_: | here* |
| [09:57:00] | t00m: | i've never seen an amd64 |
| [09:57:00] | cosmo_: | I realize that this is likely very subjective, but if anyone has any experience I could use some advice |
| [09:58:00] | t00m: | ever :/ |
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| [09:58:00] | cosmo_: | me neither, they could be a government conspiracy |
| [09:58:00] | t00m: | i know people who claim to have one |
| [09:59:00] | t00m: | which don't work for governments |
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| [10:01:00] | t00m: | why doesn't this work in lircrc: prog = mplayer |
| [10:01:00] | t00m: | button = rew |
| [10:01:00] | t00m: | config = Down |
| [10:01:00] | t00m: | it works for mythtv |
| [10:03:00] | Flimzy: | Is there any way for MythTV to read a 5C stream, other than dumping it to an S-Video output, then capturing the analog signal? |
| [10:05:00] | MarineTim: | t00m: mplayer -input cmdlist |
| [10:06:00] | t00m: | tells me what? |
| [10:06:00] | MarineTim: | commands that can be bound to keys. |
| [10:07:00] | t00m: | like 'seek' ? |
| [10:07:00] | MarineTim: | yeah. so you can use: config = menu down |
| [10:07:00] | Flimzy: | are there any HDMI capture cards that work with Linux/Myth? |
| [10:07:00] | MarineTim: | check out tech/slave.txt in the mplayer docs. |
| [10:07:00] | t00m: | i know that 'Down' works in mplayer it just doesn't work if I use the remote |
| [10:08:00] | t00m: | menu down.. |
| [10:10:00] | MarineTim: | well, in your case, you probably want seek +60 or something... |
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| [10:10:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
| [10:10:00] | t00m: | first it has to seek at all |
| [10:10:00] | fir3st0rm: | i need some help with sound |
| [10:10:00] | t00m: | is that slave.txt supposed to be local? |
| [10:11:00] | fir3st0rm: | when i take the sound from the tvcard directly it sounds too deep |
| [10:11:00] | MarineTim: | in my case, its /usr/share/doc/mplayer-1.0/DOCS/tech/slave.txt |
| [10:12:00] | MarineTim: | (FC4, btw) |
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| [10:12:00] | fir3st0rm: | me2 |
| [10:12:00] | t00m: | in my case it's not there: $ ls /usr/share/doc/mplayer-1.0_pre7-r1/ |
| [10:12:00] | t00m: | AUTHORS.gz ChangeLog.gz README.gz TOOLS/ |
| [10:12:00] | MarineTim: | :( |
| [10:13:00] | t00m: | see if i can find it in the source |
| [10:13:00] | t00m: | yep |
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| [10:15:00] | t00m: | hm doesn't really help, yet |
| [10:15:00] | t00m: | for some reason o,m and q works. just Down, Up, PgUp and PgDn don't |
| [10:15:00] | t00m: | might be their name? |
| [10:17:00] | MarineTim: | up = seek -60 ; down = seek +60, etc... |
| [10:20:00] | t00m: | erm |
| [10:22:00] | t00m: | thanks |
| [10:22:00] | t00m: | i finally understood and it's working |
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| [11:03:00] | t0t3r: | whats the command for updating kernel/modules dir ?? |
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| [11:03:00] | t0t3r: | xxxmod -a something like that |
| [11:22:00] | t00m: | ah, it doesn't record :/ |
| [11:22:00] | t00m: | it sais: Encoder 1 is local on theDude and is recording |
| [11:22:00] | t00m: | but the logfile: 2005-11–26 19:20:12.401 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
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| [11:58:00] | laga: | 7kick root___ don't IRC as root |
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| [11:59:00] | Dagmar: | sweet |
| [11:59:00] | Dagmar: | :) |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:59:00] | Dagmar: | I need this leet 7kick jupe. ;) |
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| [12:00:00] | Jazbo: | thanks |
| [12:00:00] | laga: | Jazbo: np :) |
| [12:00:00] | laga: | Dagmar: jupe? what does that mean? |
| [12:00:00] | Jazbo: | So "auto expire" doesn't seem to be working for me |
| [12:00:00] | Jazbo: | Now my comp seems to be fubared because I filled up / to 100% |
| [12:01:00] | Dagmar: | laga: Ach. Yer gonna make me feel old. A "jupe" is a remote control command, usu. covert in nature. Comes from early releases of ircII which responded to /ctcp jupe by executing the arguments supplied remotely. |
| [12:01:00] | Dagmar: | It kept the extremely stupid off IRC (or at least made them easily removable) |
| [12:01:00] | laga: | Dagmar: hehe :) nice |
| [12:02:00] | Jazbo: | Wierd thing is that I have /myth on a seperate partition. I can't figure out why the / patition would be 100% filled; so I'm not sure what I might need to delete |
| [12:03:00] | laga: | Jazbo: check /var/log(/ |
| [12:03:00] | Dagmar: | ...or /opt |
| [12:03:00] | laga: | /var/log/ i meaqn |
| [12:03:00] | Jazbo: | ah okay I'll brb |
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| [12:04:00] | Dagmar: | Hopfully it's not /^A^H.. |
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| [12:05:00] | Jazbo: | Yup, /var/log seems to be what is filling it up |
| [12:05:00] | Dagmar: | Yep. That can happen. |
| [12:05:00] | Jazbo: | Which files exactly should I be deleting? |
| [12:05:00] | Dagmar: | You need to get into the habit of putting things that can write to the disk at a variable rate to their own partition. |
| [12:06:00] | Jazbo: | Ahhhhh, good point |
| [12:06:00] | Dagmar: | Jazbo: You can nuke pretty much all of it if you want |
| [12:06:00] | Jazbo: | So /var on a seperate partition? |
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| [12:06:00] | Dagmar: | Actually, /var/log |
| [12:06:00] | Jazbo: | ah okay |
| [12:06:00] | Dagmar: | There's /var/tmp/ and /var/run which will on occasion need to be written to, and you don't really want an excess of log data to screw them up |
| [12:07:00] | Jazbo: | Ah so probably what happened was that the /myth partition filled up and generated all kinds of error messages that then filled up the /var/log? |
| [12:09:00] | Jazbo: | Is there anything in /var/log that I really shouldn't delete? |
| [12:10:00] | Dagmar: | NOpe |
| [12:10:00] | Dagmar: | Sounds like your presumed sequence of events is highly likely |
| [12:12:00] | Jazbo: | Thanks a bunch Dagmar |
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| [12:13:00] | Dagmar: | ~No problem |
| [12:16:00] | diamon: | And on the plus side, if I ever defeat my "Auto-expire eats my stuff at will" problem, now I know what to expect if I let it fill up on me. :) |
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| [12:20:00] | Dagmar: | You have myth storing video to /? |
| [12:20:00] | Dagmar: | Dear god |
| [12:20:00] | tristan77x: | hi, i'm trying to get alsa-out working but get stuck with frontend saying "Rate doesn't match (requested 0Hz, got 8000Hz)" any hint? |
| [12:20:00] | Dagmar: | Really, for a dedicated myth box, you'll want four partitions (possibly five) |
| [12:21:00] | Dagmar: | You'll want / (of course), /var/log (for system logs), /var/lib/mysql (for mysql databases!), /video (or name it something else, what goes in there is obvious) and /ringbuffer (almost as obvious) |
| [12:21:00] | Dagmar: | alsa-out? |
| [12:21:00] | Dagmar: | You mean you're just trying to use alsa? |
| [12:21:00] | tristan77x: | yep |
| [12:22:00] | Dagmar: | Which sound card? |
| [12:22:00] | tristan77x: | intel8x0 |
| [12:23:00] | tristan77x: | the board is with an i815 chipset |
| [12:23:00] | Dagmar: | So you really have an intel810 sound card on your motherboard or is it some _other_ chipset? |
| [12:23:00] | tristan77x: | cat /proc/asound/cards |
| [12:23:00] | tristan77x: | 0 [I82801BAICH2 ]: ICH – Intel 82801BA-ICH2 |
| [12:23:00] | tristan77x: | Intel 82801BA-ICH2 with AD1885 at 0x2000, irq 177 |
| [12:23:00] | Dagmar: | That's not useful for debugging. |
| [12:23:00] | Dagmar: | It's like asking Clinton if he had "sex" with that intern. |
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| [12:24:00] | tristan77x: | *smile* what do you need? |
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| [12:24:00] | Dagmar: | You wanna look at what's coming out of /proc/pci |
| [12:24:00] | Dagmar: | lspci -vv or cat /proc/pci and look at the product and vendor codes (as well as that handy english description string) |
| [12:25:00] | Dagmar: | So long as your distro isn't broken and you haev the right support compiled into your kernel, hotplug should be loading the modules for that stuff at boot time and you shouldn't even _be_ having this issue |
| [12:25:00] | Dagmar: | ...unless the chipset is really something else. |
| [12:25:00] | tristan77x: | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05) |
| [12:25:00] | Dagmar: | Okay, that's good news. |
| [12:25:00] | tristan77x: | otherwise is alsa working on that box |
| [12:25:00] | tristan77x: | i've got oss support running as well |
| [12:25:00] | Dagmar: | I suggest you check your syslog and see what it's saying when you boot as well as when you're starting the frontedn |
| [12:25:00] | Dagmar: | It's bound to be saying something in the logs |
| [12:27:00] | tristan77x: | nothing suspicious in the logs |
| [12:27:00] | tristan77x: | normal loading |
| [12:27:00] | Dagmar: | Hmm... |
| [12:28:00] | Dagmar: | You've got the same versions of alsa-libs installed as you do alsa, right? |
| [12:28:00] | tristan77x: | the hardware is otherwise working |
| [12:28:00] | tristan77x: | yep |
| [12:28:00] | Dagmar: | Hmm... |
| [12:29:00] | tristan77x: | i mean, can control mixer with alsamixer, play something with aplay etc |
| [12:29:00] | Dagmar: | The 0mz thing is significant i'm sure, btu I don't know enough about the internals of the frontend to say more than tnat |
| [12:29:00] | Dagmar: | If it's the svn version you've built, I'd say go back to release tarballs for a few days. svn is not always going to worok |
| [12:29:00] | tristan77x: | i've been trying google but havent got anything useful from that, so i thought i ask here :) |
| [12:30:00] | tristan77x: | i've check out r7738, as this is the last one before the tv buffer rewrite |
| [12:32:00] | diamon: | Sorry, I missed it. What was the 0Mhz thing with regards to ALSA? |
| [12:32:00] | tristan77x: | have another frontend on my notebook, as well, running the same kernel release and the "same" chipset, it's working there, same svn release |
| [12:33:00] | tristan77x: | i think sample rate |
| [12:33:00] | tristan77x: | 0Hz |
| [12:33:00] | tristan77x: | vs 8kHz |
| [12:33:00] | tristan77x: | frontend trying to set it |
| [12:33:00] | tristan77x: | seem to work on my notebook-frontend, but not on another frontend |
| [12:34:00] | diamon: | Hmm. Tried lspci -v to see if they're really the same chips, instead of just using the same driver? |
| [12:35:00] | diamon: | Also, the RTC clock source is often set to 8192Hz, perhaps it's saying it can't find a timer source? |
| [12:36:00] | diamon: | Because 8khz is a truly pitiful sample rate for audio, really. That sounds more RTC'ish. |
| [12:36:00] | tristan77x: | diamon: same chips, though, different codec/encoder chipset? |
| [12:37:00] | tristan77x: | i know, i wonder myself about the sample rate thing |
| [12:37:00] | diamon: | Maybe, or a different rev, or different firmware driving it... If they're otherwise the same, but one works when one doesn't, logic says there *is* a difference, though it may not be obvious. |
| [12:37:00] | tristan77x: | they both systems are not 1:1 |
| [12:38:00] | diamon: | Can you find the line referring to that sample rate, and preferrably a line on either side? |
| [12:40:00] | tristan77x: | both cards can do up to 48kHz, nothing more i can find in the normal logs, however when setting mythtv to use alsa on the "non-working" side i get messages from the frontend like: |
| [12:40:00] | tristan77x: | 2005-11–26 12:56:50.964 Opening audio device 'default'. |
| [12:40:00] | tristan77x: | 2005-11–26 12:56:50.965 Rate doesn't match (requested 0Hz, got 8000Hz) |
| [12:40:00] | tristan77x: | 2005-11–26 12:56:50.965 Unable to set ALSA parameters |
| [12:40:00] | tristan77x: | 2005-11–26 12:56:50.965 Disabling Audio, reason is: Unable to set ALSA parameters |
| [12:40:00] | diamon: | Mmm, ok. What sample rate did you set Myth to use? |
| [12:40:00] | tristan77x: | 44100 |
| [12:41:00] | diamon: | Try switching up to 48k, and down to 32. |
| [12:41:00] | sskk: | Is this a good place to ask rcxevent questions? |
| [12:41:00] | diamon: | sskk: Worth a try at least... |
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| [12:43:00] | diamon: | tristan: And check in your setup, tell me what it has under General for Audio output device, Mixer Device, and Mixer Controls. |
| [12:43:00] | tristan77x: | you mean, the rate for the encoder? |
| [12:43:00] | tristan77x: | mom |
| [12:44:00] | tristan77x: | out device is set to ALSA:default, as well as mixer, controls to "master" |
| [12:44:00] | tristan77x: | the /etc/asound.conf is set up the same way, as well |
| [12:45:00] | sskk: | I have lirc setup for my pvr-150 remote, and it's working (tested with irw, no problems) Now I would like to use irxevent to control my mythbox, but the irxevent program doesn't respond to anything at all. Really difficult to debug then. Any ideas how I could debug? |
| [12:49:00] | diamon: | sskk: Check your system logs, /var/log/messages and such. Also, try passing lircd some verbosity options for more info, or the irxevent program itself. |
| [12:49:00] | diamon: | tristan: The mixer is set to ALSA:default? |
| [12:49:00] | Dagmar: | Heh |
| [12:49:00] | Dagmar: | I don't think I've ever used an alsa.conf |
| [12:50:00] | diamon: | tristan: Try setting it to just default. I think that's what mine's using. |
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| [12:50:00] | diamon: | Out device as ALSA:default is fine though, just the mixer. |
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| [12:53:00] | tristan77x: | Dagmar: on the notebook-frontend myth refused to work without .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf |
| [12:53:00] | tristan77x: | diamon: same result |
| [12:53:00] | diamon: | But it works fine to record and play back through, correct? With something else, I mean? |
| [12:54:00] | tristan77x: | yep, i can otherwise use alsamixer, aplay etc tools |
| [12:56:00] | tristan77x: | using oss part is working fine, as well, i mean, /dev/dsp+/dev/mixer |
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| [12:56:00] | diamon: | Hmmm. I'm pretty much fresh out of ideas then! |
| [12:57:00] | diamon: | Especially if OSS emulation works fine. That's just plain odd, though that makes it seem more like it's either an ALSA problem, or a problem in the interface between Myth and Alsa. |
| [12:59:00] | tristan77x: | am also thinking that it must be somehow related to myth+alsa, i wonder why would myth try to set samplerate to 0Hz |
| [13:00:00] | tristan77x: | btw, is there any doc for the source code of myth? |
| [13:01:00] | diamon: | No idea I'm afraid, I'm user-end, not dev. I just make sensible suggestions as I can. :) |
| [13:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | The Source is the documentation :) |
| [13:02:00] | tristan77x: | no problems |
| [13:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Some of it has doxygen comments, but not nearly all of it |
| [13:03:00] | diamon: | So, I turned off auto-expire in all my recording schedules, but my recordings still get eaten. What am I missing? I still have good amounts of space available... Myth 0.18–1 |
| [13:03:00] | tristan77x: | GreyFoxx: am trying to figure the pip part... |
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| [13:09:00] | tristan77x: | hmm, am looking into the source now, why would mythtv want to set sample rate to 0Hz? |
| [13:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never looked at anything relating to PiP |
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| [13:10:00] | tristan77x: | GreyFoxx: i'd like to try to add a white frame around the small pip window whenever it gets focused but that part seems pretty undocumented... |
| [13:14:00] | tristan77x: | about the audio, in AudioOutputALSA::OpenDevice() myth tries to set sample rate to 0Hz? |
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| [13:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | tristan77x: I assume you aren't running svn since pip is currently disabled I think |
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| [13:22:00] | tristan77x: | GreyFoxx: am running svn but r7738, that was just before the large rewrite of livetv |
| [13:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, the code to enable pip mode is disabled at the moment I think |
| [13:25:00] | tristan77x: | i havent try the current svn yet, i'm in general interested to have pip...thats why am figuring :) last time i was here some devs said they dont want to maintain it anymore... |
| [13:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | It might not be coming back, or so I saw being mentioned |
| [13:25:00] | rsdvd: | Hi all....can anyone point me to the docs on how to rip a DVD using the 'optical disk' menu......when I try I just get a message about 'no jobs' |
| [13:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, future is undecided |
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| [13:43:00] | Juski: | Hiya GreyFoxx: I've started my wide theme |
| [13:44:00] | Juski: | but I noticed something about the ui – you can't have a single row of buttons & be able to navigate thru them with left & right arrows.. needs a major patch to change it, and I don't know how it'd effect other themes |
| [13:44:00] | Juski: | so I've kyboshed my original idea & I'm gonna work within the limits of the ui for now :) |
| [13:46:00] | Juski: | bit of a waste, in all that screen space, but hey |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm |
| [13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got mine set to a single column using up down, haven't tried a single row |
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| [13:55:00] | sskk: | trac seems to be struggling... does anybody know how the development is going, of a feature, that will play a sound on each and every key press... like "beep" or something? |
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| [14:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | sskk: I don't see any tickets in trac for that sort of thing. Is that some user submitted patch ? |
| [14:02:00] | sskk: | GreyFoxx: trac will not serve me at the moment... I found it here (via google): http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UserWishList |
| [14:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh, a user wish list |
| [14:02:00] | sskk: | GreyFoxx: It's called "action sound" |
| [14:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never seen anything to indicate a developer is working on something like that |
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| [14:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | good morning |
| [14:04:00] | sskk: | GreyFoxx: ok, thanks for the info... a shame though. |
| [14:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | sskk I've seen maybe 2 requests like that in the last couple years, and not one submitted patch to do it so I doubt it's a huge feature request |
| [14:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I missed the start of that convo, what was the feature req? |
| [14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | an audible sound when a key is pressed so that the user has confirmation it was received by the frontend |
| [14:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | shucks, I'd like that (toggleable of course) |
| [14:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that doesn't even sound that hard to implement |
| [14:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | then fire up vi and start codin :) |
| [14:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's intriguing |
| [14:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I might |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | if aanything sskk will thank you :) |
| [14:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | awesome |
| [14:08:00] | tristan77x: | is there something going on about teletext/CC support for ivtv? |
| [14:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but in the mean time, I have a problem that's a bit beyond my programming skills |
| [14:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythbackend seems to be losing its connection to mysql at the start of some recordings |
| [14:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | even though mysql is still running |
| [14:10:00] | Dagmar: | tristan77x; As far as I know it's happening, but progress is moving very slowly |
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| [14:11:00] | Dagmar: | tristan77x: The last I heard was that with some cards they're getting data from there now, but it's still not intelligible data. |
| [14:11:00] | sskk: | Kleptophobiac: According to the link I just posted above (http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UserWishList) it IS (or maybe has been) a difficult feature to implement, require the audio to pass through ALSA |
| [14:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | there's always the cheapass solution that gaim uses, which is an external player |
| [14:12:00] | Dagmar: | sskk: Weird. I figured if people have hardware mixing or dmix that it would be kinda easy |
| [14:12:00] | tristan77x: | Dagmar: ah, thx, I just was courious, i have a bunch of those cards running here... |
| [14:15:00] | Dagmar: | I kinda want it myself because I'd like to try to make sure that there's a mode that activates closed captioning when muting is activated |
| [14:15:00] | Dagmar: | ....but you know, with no CC data that wouldn't do so much for me right now. Heh |
| [14:15:00] | Dagmar: | VERY SLOWLY I am familiarizing myself with the myth code |
| [14:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I think that's an ivtv driver side issue |
| [14:15:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac; it is |
| [14:15:00] | Dagmar: | You just don't get data from /dev/vb* right now |
| [14:15:00] | tristan77x: | Dagmar: yeah, me too :) |
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| [14:16:00] | Dagmar: | My gf likes to yak at me when I'm watching something and it would be easier for me to mute the thing and read the text while listening to her than it would be to listen to both at once. |
| [14:16:00] | tristan77x: | Dagmar: AFAIK there must be some ioctl for activating CC in the driver |
| [14:16:00] | Dagmar: | DJing seems to somehow ruined my ability to comprehend two streams of audio at once. |
| [14:17:00] | Dagmar: | tristan77x: You can poke at the driver all you like, it's just not going to cough up CC data right now. |
| [14:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I've never had it |
| [14:17:00] | Juski: | lol Dagmar: do you not use split-cueing ? |
| [14:17:00] | Dagmar: | ivtv just can't make useful data out of what's coming over the VBI at the moment |
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| [14:17:00] | tristan77x: | Dagmar: cool, i also do dj'ing |
| [14:17:00] | ** Juski used to be a DJ but he's ok now ;) ** | |
| [14:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | isn't CC sent not via the vblank period, but as little black and white squares at the top of the transmission that get overscanned off? |
| [14:18:00] | Dagmar: | Juski: I really do think it has explicitly to do with the fact that when I DJ I've got one ear covered with a headphone and the other listening to the monitors and I have to mentally merge/split them to ensure I get the beatmatch right |
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| [14:18:00] | Dagmar: | I know I *used* to be able to follow three or four conversations at once |
| [14:18:00] | Juski: | I used to mix in monitor speakers.. handy being able to do that |
| [14:18:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac: that's part of VBI afaik |
| [14:19:00] | Dagmar: | Juski: Yeah, but I do weird things and people probably don't *want* to hear me doodling if they're close to the booth |
| [14:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I thought vbi was used for channel and over the air programming and timestamp |
| [14:19:00] | Dagmar: | Mind you I did get some happy callers one night when I forgot to turn down the other table and I was just spanking around |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | so did I, and I didn't care about the people watching my every move |
| [14:19:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac: I thought VBI amounted to "everything that ain't video" but we could both be wrong for all I know |
| [14:19:00] | Juski: | but then they were mostly being too pissed off about me refusing to shake their hand |
| [14:20:00] | Juski: | anyhoos.. back to the (cough) housework |
| [14:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | pretty much, but CC is video, no? |
| [14:20:00] | Dagmar: | Juski: I have a little sign that says "Please keep alll hands and arms outside the booth when the wheels are in motion" |
| [14:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | have you ever turned down your overscan way down and saw those wiggling bars at the top? |
| [14:20:00] | Dagmar: | CC is text data |
| [14:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yes |
| [14:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but I'm pretty sure it's encoded visually into the stream |
| [14:21:00] | Dagmar: | Nope. It lives above the 480 or so scan lines of video |
| [14:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :-/ |
| [14:21:00] | Dagmar: | It's got tags in it that tell the display unit approximately where to put the text on the screen thop |
| [14:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well whatever |
| [14:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | indeed |
| [14:22:00] | Dagmar: | I did a small bit of poking at it when I was looking for a way to get a channel lock on scrambled cable (just as a challenge, I didn't even want to descramble cable, per se) |
| [14:22:00] | Dagmar: | My TV tuner might as well be fixed permanently on the SciFi channel for all that I watch of it |
| [14:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [14:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'm looking forward to the new seasons in a few weeks |
| [14:23:00] | Dagmar: | That and CNN. Being able to grep through CC data for CNN would be VERY handy |
| [14:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | lol? why? |
| [14:23:00] | eidolon: | anyone know where the catver.ini file goes in mythgame? The HOWTO docs say "on page 2 and 3 of the Game Settings->General Settings, you can specify where the catver.ini file goes" – cept in my MythGame screens, there's only one page for that. |
| [14:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's what the internet is for |
| [14:23:00] | Dagmar: | I'm looking forward to the new Dr Who episodes. I'd kinda like to know what the holdup is for the NA release of even the _last_ seaason |
| [14:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: what version of myth are you runnin? |
| [14:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh, I'm afraid I haven't watched that show |
| [14:23:00] | eidolon: | whatever comes with knoppmyth. |
| [14:24:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac; because CNN practices a very sinister form of revisionism on both their website and the stories they air |
| [14:24:00] | eidolon: | hang on i can probably tell. sec. |
| [14:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but does anyone know why mythbackend would lose its mysql connection while mysqld is still running and accepting reqs? |
| [14:24:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac: Like, as they change a story they basically obliterate all older revisions of it from their website |
| [14:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Dagmar – but why do you care to follow it? I just use online only news |
| [14:24:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac; because you can see where people are just making things up |
| [14:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh, perhaps, but that seems like a waste of time, chasing things down the memory hole |
| [14:25:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac: That chinese tourist who got ganked by paramilitary some months back was an _excellent_ example of watching a story change materially over time |
| [14:25:00] | eidolon: | bah, mythweb doesnt's show me the backend version. hang on a sec |
| [14:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, I think it does |
| [14:26:00] | Dagmar: | CNN reported no less than three entirely different versions of what the guy said to the police |
| [14:26:00] | ** eidolon walks over to the machine. ** | |
| [14:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's kind of lame |
| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Does tge game player list look something like this ? http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythgame/mythgame7.jpg |
| [14:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Database error was: |
| [14:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | MySQL server has gone away |
| [14:26:00] | Dagmar: | Yes, it is. I would *like* for CNN to be entirely trustworthy, but they have what amounts to censors on staff from no less than three gov't agencies |
| [14:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh... US, china, and....? |
| [14:27:00] | Dagmar: | No, the FBI, the CIA, and one who is supposed to be the Secret Service, but there's a good chance he's also working for NRO. |
| [14:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | or three internal agencies |
| [14:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ah |
| [14:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [14:28:00] | Dagmar: | Particularly because of that last one I am *not* about to go poking around trying to get more detail about them |
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| [14:28:00] | Dagmar: | Hardly anyone even seems to know the NRO exists at all, and I suspect they like it that way |
| [14:28:00] | eidolon: | mythfrontend reports 'mythfrontend 0.19.something 20050719 -ish. i'm pre-cvoffee adn it's on the other side of the room |
| [14:29:00] | eidolon: | GreyFoxx: yes, but i just have xmame in it. |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Ok, so you are running a SVN release of myth then |
| [14:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hey, google tells me the nro sounds scary |
| [14:29:00] | eidolon: | i am? odd. okay :) that's what knoppmyth installed :) |
| [14:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Knoppmyth screwed up and released a SVN version by mistake in R5A22 |
| [14:30:00] | eidolon: | soooo... how can i get catver.ini in place? right now browsing... er... all my roms is very tedious. and i know the sql database dump wasn't loaded. |
| [14:30:00] | Dagmar: | OMG I can't believe the NRO has a website now |
| [14:30:00] | eidolon: | *nod* i heard you talking about that before :( |
| [14:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | don't bother, it doesn't load |
| [14:30:00] | Dagmar: | Oh, nevermind. NRO.net != National Reconnaissance Organization |
| [14:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: You can't. 1: catver is no longer used at all, and 2: the SVN version that knoppmyth used was from before all of the new metadata stuff was put in |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | you will either have to live without or upgrade |
| [14:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ugh, I wish I didn't have to run SVN |
| [14:31:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB35/ <-- probably more detail than one can usually expect to see about them |
| [14:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, I just read that |
| [14:31:00] | eidolon: | GreyFoxx: bummer. okay. |
| [14:31:00] | Dagmar: | How they were discovered in 1992 is pretty funny. |
| [14:31:00] | eidolon: | i'll live with it for now... but i see a source code build from svn in my future. |
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| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | catver isn't needed anymore, but you need the newwer mythgame to use the new romdb info |
| [14:32:00] | Dagmar: | Some Senator kept driving past this eight square block campus in Washington and finally got around to asking who the hell it was for |
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| [14:32:00] | eidolon: | okie dokey. |
| [14:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | GreyFoxx – might you know why my mysql connection is dying for no apparent reason at the start of some recordings? |
| [14:32:00] | eidolon: | i don't suppose i can just build mythgame? :) |
| [14:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you have to build everything |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Klept: No idea |
| [14:32:00] | eidolon: | heh. |
| [14:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | shucks |
| [14:32:00] | eidolon: | Kleptophobiac: have you looked at the mysql error log? |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | actually you might be able to build just mythgame |
| [14:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | there are no errors in the mysql error log |
| [14:33:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac: mysql isn't saying anything about it in it's log? |
| [14:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it looks perfect |
| [14:33:00] | Dagmar: | That's not good. |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | pull down mythplugins, run configure, then cd into the mythgame directory only and do make |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | see if it completes |
| [14:33:00] | Dagmar: | Perhaps you should write some perl to just beat it silly and see if it's simply segfaulting |
| [14:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I can still access the db with the mysql console |
| [14:33:00] | tristan77x: | huch, there is a small minor bug when the frontend tries to connect backend |
| [14:33:00] | eidolon: | okay – grey, gonna be around for a bit if i run into trouble? i dont' mind doing source builds, but i'm not keen on trashing my myth box :) |
| [14:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, it always dies about 20 sec before a recording, so I don't think it's the frontend's fault |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: No actually, leaving in a minute |
| [14:34:00] | eidolon: | ah. |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | besides, you learn more if oyu have to struggle through it :) |
| [14:34:00] | Dagmar: | eidolon: What base distro do you use/ |
| [14:34:00] | eidolon: | my hero. |
| [14:35:00] | eidolon: | dag: knoppmyth is built on debian. |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [14:35:00] | eidolon: | checking out svn onto the myth box now. |
| [14:35:00] | Dagmar: | eidolon: Ah, well then start using the package manager to build new packages for yourself. |
| [14:35:00] | Dagmar: | eidolon: Then you can toss versions around at will |
| [14:35:00] | eidolon: | i'd rather the knoppmyth folks upgrade their release. :-/ |
| [14:35:00] | eidolon: | "I'm a Doctor, dammit, not a release engineer!" |
| [14:35:00] | Dagmar: | Pssht I'd rahter they do some QA before they do another ISO |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think they downgraded back to 0.18 |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | or at least took the SVNoops off the site :) |
| [14:36:00] | eidolon: | well. i don't mind tracking svn... i'm gonna need it soon anyway. waht i -do- worry about is problems with kernel drivers, etc. |
| [14:36:00] | Dagmar: | 5a22 was trying to do some very messed up things when I installed it |
| [14:37:00] | eidolon: | and breaking livetv and other stuff every 3 days :) |
| [14:37:00] | Dagmar: | Well, 0.18.1 has been working great for me |
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| [14:38:00] | eidolon: | and in other news, i got my MX4000 yesterday. plugged it in, but i'm pretty sure i got it 'half in' the AGP slot. I toasted the card (corrupted video now). |
| [14:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I would like to run .18.1-fixes, but it has issues with mysql5 |
| [14:38:00] | ** eidolon has an RMA already :( ** | |
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| [14:38:00] | eidolon: | svn: Can't copy 'myththemes/templates/.svn/tmp/text-base/progfind_lines-template.psd.svn-base' to 'myththemes/templates/progfind_lines-template.psd.tmp': No space left on device |
| [14:38:00] | ** eidolon DOHS! ** | |
| [14:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | sounds like there's no space left on your hdd |
| [14:38:00] | tristan77x: | the frontend is retrying 1 time too often to connect: Connecting to backend server: 192.168.10.3:6543 (try 4 of 3) |
| [14:38:00] | eidolon: | Kleptophobiac: *dry* gee. thanks. :) |
| [14:38:00] | ** eidolon shuffles dirs around :) ** | |
| [14:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hehehe |
| [14:39:00] | ** Kleptophobiac doesn't have an hdd in the frontend ** | |
| [14:39:00] | eidolon: | i run everything on one box right now. |
| [14:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ah |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, before I head out I'm taking a poll ... notify box with a colourful icon like these: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd15.jpg |
| [14:39:00] | eidolon: | until i'm s00p3r 3l33t in myth-geekiness, then i'll start ramping up. |
| [14:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I split them up so that the high horsepower machine isn't dumping noise and heat into the living room |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or the plain box like this : http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd14.jpg |
| [14:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I don't care |
| [14:40:00] | eidolon: | wow. phone stuff :) |
| [14:40:00] | eidolon: | i like the tabbed window. |
| [14:40:00] | Kleptophobiac: | GreyFoxx – notifications are notifications |
| [14:40:00] | eidolon: | too easily to lose the box on screen otherwise. |
| [14:40:00] | Dagmar: | Kleptophobiac: I don't think dbus (which will be using that soon I'm sure) carries icon data, but the iconic cue seems like to me would be VERY useful in certain cases |
| [14:41:00] | Dagmar: | You've definitely got a use case with that caller ID thing all by itself |
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| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kleptophobiac: Well the whole idea of an osd theme is to make it visually pleasing for the user :) |
| [14:41:00] | tristan77x: | in libs/libmyth/mythcontext.cpp on line 750 int cnt = 0; should be set to 1 instead of 0, cause the following loop is ran at least once |
| [14:42:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I have certain criteria for an OSD: 1) easy to read 2) good contrast 3) high temporal resolution (ie, long bar) 4) good use of space |
| [14:42:00] | tristan77x: | on line 759 the .arg(cnt+1) is then .arg(cnt) ... |
| [14:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | tristan77x: Then submit a patch to trac along with a good description of the problem |
| [14:43:00] | tristan77x: | GreyFoxx: ok :) |
| [14:43:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does anyone know how sagetv managed to pull off so much hardware interfacing via java? |
| [14:43:00] | Dagmar: | Pacts with Satan, I believe |
| [14:43:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [14:44:00] | Dagmar: | Hardware manipulation and Java are normally like mixing Mandarin Chinese and small waterfoul. |
| [14:44:00] | tristan77x: | GreyFoxx: and another thing, when entering hostname instead of ip addr for backend then the connection is always failed. is it a bug or a feature? :) |
| [14:44:00] | Dagmar: | Oooh |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | tristan77x: I didn't think hostnames were supported |
| [14:44:00] | Dagmar: | Microsoft's JavaVM is another answer, which is pretty close to my initial guess now that I think about. |
| [14:44:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I mess with microcontrollers a lot (built my own 13.756 MHz compy!), but I also mostly code in java |
| [14:45:00] | Kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [14:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | tristan77x: But I'd have to look at the code to be sure |
| [14:45:00] | eidolon: | mm. java. |
| [14:45:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'm pretty sure the sage guys use the sun vm |
| [14:45:00] | Dagmar: | Wow |
| [14:45:00] | Dagmar: | I would have expected the sun java devs to laugh at the idea |
| [14:45:00] | eidolon: | if myth were written in java, i'd be all over it. |
| [14:45:00] | tristan77x: | GreyFoxx: i'd prefer hostname over ip addr, if thats not a big deal i might make a patch |
| [14:46:00] | eidolon: | in fact, one of the things i want to do if the 'mfed' thing ever gets to usefulness is write a java gui app that talks to the mfe. |
| [14:46:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I've been leery about learning cpp, but I think I'll have to |
| [14:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'm a C/java person |
| [14:47:00] | eidolon: | C and C++ give me hives. :) |
| [14:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I like old school C |
| [14:47:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: I like those screenshots |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Thanks |
| [14:48:00] | eidolon: | err. |
| [14:48:00] | eidolon: | hm |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's been fun working on it |
| [14:49:00] | Dagmar: | eidolon: Heck make us a GUI that just *configures* the lot |
| [14:49:00] | eidolon: | cd mythplugins; ./configure "blahb blah mythgame will be buil blah". cd mythgame; make |
| [14:49:00] | eidolon: | er. no Makefile |
| [14:49:00] | Juski: | fun? you wanna try a full theme matey lol |
| [14:49:00] | Dagmar: | Anything that can make more rational sense out of all those bloody setup menus |
| [14:49:00] | eidolon: | Dagmar: i'd _LOVE_ to build a swing gui for myth |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | the main thing I want to do now is edit mode graphics and make a wide screen version |
| [14:49:00] | Juski: | I've been using mythmusic today & I've noticed another thing wrong with my theme |
| [14:49:00] | eidolon: | but unless i have it talk directly to the back end, (difficult), i have to wait wil mfed is working. |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski I did, I'm using it :) |
| [14:49:00] | eidolon: | -or- work on mythweb, which i'm already doing :) |
| [14:50:00] | Dagmar: | I so don't want to learn PHP |
| [14:50:00] | eidolon: | ohh |
| [14:50:00] | ** eidolon reads the docs. ** | |
| [14:50:00] | eidolon: | Dagmar: php is trivial. |
| [14:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I detest scripting langs |
| [14:50:00] | Juski: | saying that, it's probably not wrong since I changed all the selection boxes to rounded transparent ones |
| [14:50:00] | Juski: | I've just not updated it to my frontend yet |
| [14:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | they feel like modern incarnations of BASIC |
| [14:50:00] | Dagmar: | eidolon: I know it's practically a perl variant in some respects I just don't really want to be in there with whatever is making so many retarded PHP programmers |
| [14:51:00] | eidolon: | hah. |
| [14:51:00] | tristan77x: | eidolon: ah, btw, mythweb: any plan to use some template system? |
| [14:51:00] | Dagmar: | It might be catching |
| [14:51:00] | eidolon: | tristan77x: well, i have to get my svn version of mythweb running here, and xris is in the process of redoing a lot of the core stuff. soon as that is done, my first goal is to make the music mythweb module even mildly functional. |
| [14:52:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, the mythvideo and mythmusic sections of mythweb are totally worthless |
| [14:52:00] | tristan77x: | ah i see |
| [14:52:00] | ** eidolon compiles mythgame. ** | |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kleptophobiac: I agree |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think xris feels the same way :) |
| [14:53:00] | eidolon: | xris is pretty embarrassed about tyhe music module. |
| [14:53:00] | eidolon: | anyway, i can rewrite that in probably a day or two. what's there now is garbage. |
| [14:53:00] | eidolon: | i just need to get up to speed. :) |
| [14:53:00] | eidolon: | GreyFoxx: the build of just mythgame failed. |
| [14:53:00] | eidolon: | gametree.cpp: In member function `virtual void |
| [14:53:00] | eidolon: | GameTree::keyPressEvent(QKeyEvent*)': |
| [14:53:00] | eidolon: | gametree.cpp:405: error: `jumpToLetter' undeclared (first use this function) |
| [14:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so what do you want to do with mythmusic/mythweb? is there some function you're aiming for? |
| [14:54:00] | eidolon: | mostly searching and organizing now. i have 18+gig of mp3's. not being able to say "search for allman brothers" really sucks. |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: Oh then you wont be able to build just that piece. Knoppmyth's svn snapshot must have been before that was added to the main code |
| [14:54:00] | eidolon: | my ultimate goal is to get the mythweb system able to control a / the front end. |
| [14:54:00] | eidolon: | so i can say "Play that track" |
| [14:54:00] | eidolon: | okee. |
| [14:54:00] | ** eidolon ponders what to do now. ** | |
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| [14:55:00] | ** eidolon ponders going and playing digdug for a few hours. ** | |
| [14:56:00] | frox: | can someone help my understand the transcoding? if i set up a recording profile to auto-transcode to mpeg4, does the origional file get deleted, and where does the transcoded file get saved? |
| [14:56:00] | eidolon: | and i -really- wish mythgame had a 'search' function :( |
| [14:56:00] | eidolon: | or even 'jump to x' |
| [14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | the transcoded version replaces the old one |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | eidolon: There is |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's what failed in your compile |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | " |
| [14:57:00] | eidolon: | HAH |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | "jumpToLetter" |
| [14:57:00] | eidolon: | see? wishes DO come true! |
| [14:57:00] | eidolon: | just not in the version i'm running. |
| [14:57:00] | frox: | greyfoxx: also, will it auto-cut out commercials? |
| [14:57:00] | frox: | if they are flagged |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I'm likely gonna change that to a dialog box |
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| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | frox: I think that can be configured as well. I don't use any of myths transcoding |
| [14:59:00] | frox: | greyfoxx: do you use any transcoding? |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | rarely |
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| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | but when I do I do it on a different box |
| [15:00:00] | tristan77x: | ah, it seems changed already in the current svn |
| [15:00:00] | frox: | k, just wondering, i don't suppose you know if mencoder can use mythtv's commflags to skip transcoding of commercials do you? |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | frox: no, you would have to pass the info to mencoder |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | look into nuvexport |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's designed to do all that for you and is console menu based |
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| [15:02:00] | frox: | nuxexport doens't work, just stalls out at 0% |
| [15:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, that would be a problem :) |
| [15:03:00] | frox: | sooo.. i ended up writing a bash script to process encoding and set it to run via a cron job |
| [15:04:00] | frox: | how would you go about passing commercial information to mencoder? |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | you don't pass it commerical info, you pass it cutpoints |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | so it knows to skip certain areas |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you get that from the database |
| [15:04:00] | frox: | k |
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| [15:35:00] | glen___: | anyone know what version if ffmpeg works with nuvexport? i have ffmpeg-0.4.9–3.20050806.1.amd64 and that results first yuvdenoise: invalid error -r and latter ffmpeg failed with fatal error opening file |
| [15:40:00] | tristan77x: | i've been running some cvs releases of ffmpeg without problems, however, not on amd64 |
| [15:42:00] | glen___: | altho earlier there's yuvdenoise error. maybe that's incompatible: yuvdenoise: invalid option — r |
| [15:43:00] | glen___: | yuvdenoise is from mjpegtools-1.8.0–0.1 |
| [15:44:00] | tristan77x: | maybe your mjpegtools are too new? am running 1.6.2 so far without probs, havent tried anything newer yet |
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| [15:48:00] | GiantPickle: | Is there anyone here that is using Knoppmyth R5A22 that has sucessfully used a separate front end to connect to it? |
| [15:50:00] | Juski: | I've had an idea... is there any mileage in making a theme where the graphics are pre-stretched by 25% in the 'y' direction for those of us who use TV outputs with 16:9 TVs ? |
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| [16:07:00] | Dagmar: | I half wonder why it's not all SVG by now |
| [16:08:00] | Dagmar: | SVG == aspect ratio problem solved |
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| [16:15:00] | eidolon: | mmm. svg. |
| [16:15:00] | ** Dagmar hands eidolon his spare bib ** | |
| [16:16:00] | eidolon: | i used to do programming using NAPLPS and ReGIS systems (which are vector / constructor type graphics libraries), so SVG is just going back to my roots :) |
| [16:20:00] | Dagmar: | I just like smooth edges with no work involved |
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| [16:22:00] | \Grooby\_: | gobble gobble gobble |
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| [16:49:00] | eidolon: | doom. |
| [16:49:00] | eidolon: | my friend and my wife are playing Gauntlet II on the myth box ;) |
| [16:50:00] | glen___: | are there any tools to rip subtitles from tv shows? |
| [16:50:00] | dev-: | soon you will be out the door |
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| [16:53:00] | DarkBeer_: | argh! what am I missing in getting a usb joystick working with mythgame/xmame? the joystick is working fine in linux, just not in xmame. I have joytype set to 1 (i386 driver) |
| [16:55:00] | eidolon: | heh. i'm writing an article on that -right now- |
| [16:55:00] | DarkBeer_: | hurry up :) |
| [16:55:00] | eidolon: | you put joytype 1 in /etc/xmame/xmamerc |
| [16:55:00] | eidolon: | ? |
| [16:55:00] | DarkBeer_: | lemme check |
| [16:55:00] | eidolon: | also, did you do cat < /dev/js0 and saw noise? |
| [16:55:00] | DarkBeer_: | yes, though it was /dev/input/js0 |
| [16:56:00] | eidolon: | hmm. |
| [16:56:00] | eidolon: | joytype 1 |
| [16:56:00] | eidolon: | fullscreen 1 |
| [16:57:00] | DarkBeer_: | yes, joytype is 1 |
| [16:57:00] | DarkBeer_: | analogstick is 0 ? |
| [17:02:00] | DarkBeer_: | ran cat < /dev/input/js0 again and get noise with any button press or stick movement |
| [17:03:00] | eidolon: | that's all i added to /etc/xmame/xmamerc — i don't have anything related to analog in my xmamerc |
| [17:03:00] | eidolon: | my usb joysticks are a little twitchy though – i just got to the point where they're not answering at all :( |
| [17:03:00] | eidolon: | but i think this may be my hub. |
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| [17:26:00] | eidolon: | okay, soemthing's causing the usb bus to reset... so /dev/js0 and /dev/js1 jumps to /dev/js2 and /dev/js3 – anyone know a way to 'reset' the bus and deallocate / reallocate all the devices? |
| [17:27:00] | DarkBeer_: | eidolon: did you do anything to map the buttons of your joystick? i'm using a gravis gamepad pro which is similar to a ps2 controller, has 4 color buttons, stick and then 4 other buttons on the front side |
| [17:28:00] | DarkBeer_: | i'm assuming I would need to define a fire button for example |
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| [17:29:00] | eidolon: | that's the same thing i'm using :) |
| [17:29:00] | eidolon: | well, ti's a gamepad. |
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| [17:29:00] | eidolon: | did you go into the [tab] setup screen in a mame game to see if the joystick stuff is in the key bindings? |
| [17:30:00] | eidolon: | input: USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [Mega World USB 2-Axis 8-Button Gamepad] on usb-0000:00:02.3–1.2 |
| [17:30:00] | eidolon: | that's actually my device. |
| [17:32:00] | psofa: | hows dvb support in mythtv? |
| [17:34:00] | DarkBeer_: | eidolon: no joystick stuff in the key bindings |
| [17:34:00] | eidolon: | aha! there's your problem :) |
| [17:34:00] | eidolon: | try going to 'player one up' hit <enter> press the up button on your joystick, and WAIT |
| [17:34:00] | eidolon: | about 3–4 seconds later you should see 'up arrow or Joystick Axis Y Ng' or osmething like that. |
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| [17:36:00] | DarkBeer_: | doesn't do anything when I hold the stick up |
| [17:37:00] | eidolon: | hrm. |
| [17:37:00] | eidolon: | Somethings Not Right. |
| [17:37:00] | eidolon: | you're on knoppmyth? |
| [17:37:00] | DarkBeer_: | heh, yep |
| [17:38:00] | eidolon: | hm. |
| [17:38:00] | DarkBeer_: | no, not knopp |
| [17:38:00] | DarkBeer_: | fc4 |
| [17:38:00] | eidolon: | aha. |
| [17:38:00] | eidolon: | okay, some defaults i bet are different. |
| [17:39:00] | DarkBeer_: | i've written joytype=1 to the mysql database, and when I start the frontend with all logging, it does show that it is using joytype 1, xmamerc has joytype 1, so it *should* be 1 :) |
| [17:39:00] | eidolon: | you can |
| [17:39:00] | eidolon: | er |
| [17:39:00] | eidolon: | sorry |
| [17:40:00] | eidolon: | run xmame from the command line |
| [17:40:00] | DarkBeer_: | yep |
| [17:40:00] | DarkBeer_: | w/out joystick |
| [17:40:00] | eidolon: | xmame -rp /myth/game/xmame/ -joytype 1 -fullscreen |
| [17:40:00] | DarkBeer_: | and it runs in mythgame as well and plays fine, just no joystick |
| [17:40:00] | eidolon: | in the output it'll say whether it saw the joystick or not |
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| [17:47:00] | DarkBeer_: | Standard joystick interface initialization... OSD: Warning: No joysticks found disabling joystick support |
| [17:48:00] | DarkBeer_: | but I'm looking at /home/mythtv/.xmame/xmamerc and it has joytype 1 |
| [17:58:00] | eidolon: | well there ya go :) |
| [17:59:00] | DarkBeer_: | eh? what am i missing? joytype is set to 1 but it isn't detecting it, yet cat < /dev/input/js0 shows the stick is "live" |
| [18:00:00] | eidolon: | there's a device setting somewhere. |
| [18:00:00] | eidolon: | 'ang on :) |
| [18:01:00] | eidolon: | try -jdev /dev/input/js ? |
| [18:02:00] | DarkBeer_: | in additon to -joytype, or in place of it? |
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| [18:02:00] | eidolon: | i'd say in addition. |
| [18:03:00] | DarkBeer_: | that detected the joystick. now, where would I add the joydev call to mythgame's calling of xmame? |
| [18:04:00] | eidolon: | either on the command line in the setup screen,m or add 'joydevname /dev/input/js' to /etc/xmame/xmamerc |
| [18:04:00] | eidolon: | hint, btw. xmame --help | more is -very- handy. |
| [18:04:00] | DarkBeer_: | :) |
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| [18:08:00] | DarkBeer_: | woohoo! thanks eidolon! |
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| [18:08:00] | eidolon: | you're welcome. :) |
| [18:09:00] | eidolon: | i'm blogigng most of what i'm doing here: http://planet-geek.com/archives/cat_mythtv.html |
| [18:09:00] | eidolon: | question, do you have a /dev/js device at all? |
| [18:09:00] | eidolon: | or only /dev/input/js* ? |
| [18:09:00] | DarkBeer_: | no |
| [18:09:00] | eidolon: | okay. interesting. |
| [18:09:00] | DarkBeer_: | right, /dev/input/js |
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| [18:10:00] | DarkBeer_: | bbiaf |
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| [18:15:00] | archiebunker: | Bow before me! For I am a model for all to follow! |
| [18:17:00] | eidolon: | why? :) |
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| [18:21:00] | Kury: | Anyone here using lirc in gentoo?? I can't seem to get irxevent to pass input to my program :( |
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| [18:45:00] | SCMark: | I keep getting "no space left on device" errors after a knoppmyth install when attempting to start mythbackend |
| [18:45:00] | SCMark: | df -h tells me that there is space there |
| [18:47:00] | SCMark: | yet if I do a touch /myth/anything I get no space left errors again |
| [18:47:00] | SCMark: | anyone know what is going on? |
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| [18:48:00] | Kury: | how are your disks/partitions and fs's setup? |
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| [18:52:00] | SCMark: | I've got a small hard drive just to see if this tuner card will work. the /myth partition is 1gb, cache partition is 2.1 gb, / partition is 1.8gb |
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| [18:52:00] | eiggirC: | SCMark: interesting – I wonder what its doing |
| [18:53:00] | eiggirC: | allocating more disk than you have space available.... |
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| [18:53:00] | SCMark: | probably |
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| [18:54:00] | quantm__: | my IR setup is hosed. I get lircd-0.7.1[5560]: could not open /dev/lirc |
| [18:54:00] | quantm__: | lircd-0.7.1[5560]: default_init(): No such device |
| [18:54:00] | quantm__: | l |
| [18:54:00] | SCMark: | what in mythtv requires the most space that might be filling up my drive? |
| [18:54:00] | quantm__: | no matter what I try |
| [18:55:00] | quantm__: | problem started when I upgraded kernel and lircd but now I downgraded both and it still does not work |
| [18:56:00] | kormoc: | SCMark, the recorded tv? |
| [18:56:00] | quantm__: | I have been searching for a couple days for a solution |
| [18:58:00] | quantm__: | anybody out there |
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| [19:05:00] | Kury: | quantm: what kernel did you go to first? and what are you at now? |
| [19:09:00] | quantm__: | I am running 2.6.11–1.27_FC3 and tried upgrading to 2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 |
| [19:11:00] | quantm__: | I notice after reboot /dev/lirc0 seems to dissapear |
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| [19:11:00] | quantm__: | on my current downgraded setup |
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| [19:14:00] | quantm__: | has anyone else tried upgrading to this kernel and had it work |
| [19:16:00] | Kury: | sorry .... I forgot about you.. |
| [19:16:00] | SCMark: | the roblem is that I can't launch the backend server because when it tries to create the file /myth/tv/nfslockfile.lock, it gives an error |
| [19:16:00] | quantm__: | I am still here |
| [19:16:00] | Kury: | I'm running 2.6.10 something on my other machine.. w/ lirc.. and 2.6.14 on another.. |
| [19:17:00] | Kury: | are you installing from source? |
| [19:17:00] | quantm__: | no using apt-get |
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| [19:17:00] | quantm__: | but I did try lirc from source |
| [19:18:00] | quantm__: | same error |
| [19:19:00] | quantm__: | I have no idea what to try at this point |
| [19:19:00] | Kury: | I would do it from source... |
| [19:19:00] | Kury: | what IR receiver do you have? |
| [19:19:00] | quantm__: | PVR250 |
| [19:20:00] | Kury: | the lirc source is cake.. |
| [19:20:00] | Kury: | do you have it there on your system?? |
| [19:20:00] | Kury: | did you compile your own kernel? |
| [19:21:00] | quantm__: | well I tried the newest version from the source but it still crashes with that error, I can't install the older version from the source since it complains about kernel source missing for the module or something and that ins't available anymore apparently |
| [19:21:00] | quantm__: | I even copied the lirc and lirc-dev files from one of my backups but still no luck |
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| [19:23:00] | quantm__: | why would a device disappear after reboot |
| [19:23:00] | Kury: | the lirc device is created when the daemon starts... |
| [19:24:00] | Kury: | its only a symlink most of the time to a real device.. |
| [19:24:00] | quantm__: | well lircd seems to be created but not lirc |
| [19:24:00] | Kury: | do you have i2c compiled into the kernel? |
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| [19:25:00] | quantm__: | well I can do the insmod o.k. so I think so |
| [19:27:00] | {archer-: | quantm_ I need to create /etc/udev/rules.d/lircd.rules |
| [19:27:00] | quantm__: | KERNEL="lirc[0–9]*", NAME="lirc%n" |
| [19:27:00] | quantm__: | KERNEL="lirc0", SYMLINK="lirc" |
| [19:28:00] | Kury: | quantm: paste the output of grep -i i2c /usr/src/linux/.config |
| [19:29:00] | quantm__: | that was the whole file contents |
| [19:29:00] | Kury: | assuming the linux dir is a symlink to the latest source your using.. |
| [19:30:00] | quantm__: | hmm still looking |
| [19:31:00] | quantm__: | don't think I have the kernel source installed |
| [19:31:00] | quantm__: | I just just the atrms one |
| [19:32:00] | jonK: | quantm_ your question about lirc sounded familiar try reading the lirc faq. From the second paragraph, first sentence: when you are using devfs... the /dev/lirc devince node will disappear again when you reboot your machine..." |
| [19:33:00] | quantm__: | what is the link |
| [19:33:00] | Kury: | should be w/ the source.. |
| [19:33:00] | jonK: | lirc.oprg |
| [19:33:00] | jonK: | lirc.org |
| [19:33:00] | jonK: | but use with the source in lirc/docs/html |
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| [19:38:00] | quantm__: | that doesn't work it still doesn't seem to create the device |
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| [19:38:00] | amorphix: | hi guys |
| [19:39:00] | Kury: | I thought you had the kernel source on your machine? |
| [19:39:00] | amorphix: | i wanna install MythTV, im running Debian testing, is there a package source? |
| [19:39:00] | Kury: | amorphix: did you check the mythtv website? |
| [19:39:00] | quantm__: | I have the source for lirc but apparently not for the kernel |
| [19:39:00] | amorphix: | Kury: yup |
| [19:39:00] | amorphix: | no mention of Debian |
| [19:40:00] | Kury: | quantm... what does ls -l /boot/ |grep config return? |
| [19:40:00] | quantm__: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55504 May 17 2005 config-2.6.11–1.27_FC3 |
| [19:40:00] | quantm__: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 56950 Oct 21 02:58 config-2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 |
| [19:40:00] | quantm__: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50929 Nov 2 2004 config-2.6.9–1.667 |
| [19:40:00] | Kury: | amorphix: no idea then.. I would assume there is one out there.. |
| [19:40:00] | amorphix: | ok |
| [19:40:00] | Kury: | quantm: uname -a |
| [19:40:00] | amorphix: | one more question... |
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| [19:40:00] | quantm__: | Linux charity.comcast.net 2.6.11–1.27_FC3 #1 Tue May 17 20:27:37 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux |
| [19:40:00] | Kury: | or what version of the kernel do you want to use? |
| [19:41:00] | Kury: | 2.6.12? |
| [19:41:00] | Kury: | amorphix: shoot.. |
| [19:41:00] | poop: | amorphix: deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [19:41:00] | quantm__: | I am trying 2.6.11–1.27_FC3 right now since the upgrade didn't work I was just trying to revert to the working configuration |
| [19:41:00] | amorphix: | Would it be possible to view tv on a frontend P3–500 laptop across 100mbps wired network, I have an old analog card and dont want to do any recording/timeshifting, just merely play live tv. My backend is only a P3–700 |
| [19:42:00] | Kury: | quantm: do you want to use the newer kernel .12 or .11? |
| [19:42:00] | poop: | amorphix: You can run a front-end on that if you turn off all the fancy visuals in he GUI |
| [19:42:00] | amorphix: | poop: many thanks |
| [19:42:00] | amorphix: | ok |
| [19:42:00] | poop: | many POOPS |
| [19:42:00] | amorphix: | :-) |
| [19:42:00] | quantm__: | Kury, well after I did a system upgrade I started having this problem, that is why I didn't stick with the newer kernel |
| [19:42:00] | amorphix: | I need to upgrade to unstable then eh |
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| [19:43:00] | poop: | amorphix: probably not, however, I did just so I could stop building the debs mythtv depends on (on sarge) |
| [19:43:00] | Kury: | quantm: nm for now.. do grep -i i2c /boot/config-2.6.11* |
| [19:43:00] | Kury: | quantm: nm for now.. do grep -i i2c /boot/config-2.6.12* |
| [19:43:00] | quantm__: | looks like only 2.6.12–1.1381 is available with apt-get |
| [19:43:00] | amorphix: | poop: I saw some posts on Google for this source, but they were quite old and I think referred to testing when it was unstable |
| [19:43:00] | amorphix: | oh |
| [19:44:00] | poop: | amoropohix: It's been the archive for a long time :) |
| [19:44:00] | amorphix: | I can probably get away without upgrading then I think |
| [19:45:00] | poop: | amorphix: You'll need another archive too, most likely: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main |
| [19:45:00] | amorphix: | I think I have that |
| [19:45:00] | amorphix: | its the video support eh |
| [19:46:00] | Kury: | if you stade away from testing & unstable in debian.. you would still be running the early 2.4 kernel... and old shit window managers... along w/ everything else... |
| [19:46:00] | poop: | probably, for mplayer and anything media-related |
| [19:46:00] | poop: | Sarge has a 2.6 kernel |
| [19:46:00] | Kury: | quantm: still alive? |
| [19:46:00] | poop: | Kury: Some people value stable over cutting edge |
| [19:46:00] | poop: | <-- |
| [19:46:00] | quantm__: | Kury: yeah trying to figure out how to send the info to you |
| [19:46:00] | quantm__: | kury: send me a message and I'll paste it in the message window |
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| [19:47:00] | Kury: | poop: ya but my point is.. alot of stuff in debian is rated testing or unstable... while in reality its damn near.. testing or stable.. it just hasn't been used enough to be sure.. |
| [19:48:00] | Kury: | quantm: pastebin.com |
| [19:48:00] | amorphix: | I love debian |
| [19:48:00] | poop: | gnulix! |
| [19:48:00] | Kury: | gnulix? |
| [19:49:00] | poop: | Back when RMS wanted to rename "linux" to "GNU/Linux," gnulix was one of the (maybe jokingly made) suggestions. |
| [19:49:00] | quantm__: | http://pastebin.com/438925 |
| [19:49:00] | Kury: | when was that? |
| [19:49:00] | poop: | '98 maybe? |
| [19:50:00] | quantm__: | Kury, : you get that |
| [19:51:00] | eidolon: | yay. compusa has a sale on the MX4000 cards. $19 after rebate. don't have to wait to RMA my other card. |
| [19:51:00] | ** eidolon unwraps. ** | |
| [19:51:00] | Kury: | quantm: yup.. just a sec.. |
| [19:52:00] | Kury: | quantm: k.. well it looks like either your 2.6.11 or 2.6.12 will work just fine.. so you need to deside which kernel you want to run... |
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| [19:54:00] | poop: | 2.6.12+ behave a whole lot better on my year-old athlon64 |
| [19:54:00] | poop: | s/have/haves/ |
| [19:54:00] | poop: | I should try a 64-bit linux again sometime |
| [19:54:00] | quantm__: | o.k. well let me try a kernel upgrade again and get to the latest setup and then that will need to be fixed for lirc to work |
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| [19:55:00] | Kury: | quantm: K.. well pick whichever kernel.. and then you need to boot up into that kernel.. |
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| [20:00:00] | quantm__: | kurry : yeah this will take a minute |
| [20:01:00] | Kury: | K |
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| [20:06:00] | eidolon: | okay, i suspect i know the answer to this... but... |
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| [20:07:00] | eidolon: | my television does NOT have s-video input to it. I'm using an svideo -> composite adapter on the back of my nVidia MX4000 card. the signal is coming through and displaying on the TV fine, but it's in black and white. no color signal at all. |
| [20:07:00] | eidolon: | livetv and menus are all B&W. is this because of the s-video adapter? |
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| [20:07:00] | eidolon: | or am i misconfigured somewhere? |
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| [20:08:00] | Kury: | you don't have color anywhere on the tv navigating through the software? |
| [20:08:00] | quantm__: | kruy: o.k. rebooted with 2.6.12–1.1381_FC3 |
| [20:09:00] | Kury: | K.. go to your lirc source directory.. |
| [20:09:00] | Kury: | once there type ./setup.sh |
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| [20:09:00] | quantm__: | Kury, : yes |
| [20:10:00] | Kury: | you there? |
| [20:10:00] | quantm__: | yes |
| [20:10:00] | Kury: | K.. in the menu go to 1... then 5 |
| [20:11:00] | Kury: | and then f |
| [20:11:00] | Kury: | then do a save config & exit.. |
| [20:12:00] | quantm__: | ok |
| [20:12:00] | quantm__: | all done |
| [20:12:00] | quantm__: | did make install |
| [20:12:00] | Kury: | now type ./configure |
| [20:13:00] | Kury: | did it give any errors? |
| [20:13:00] | eidolon: | ah... HAH. apparently this is a 'cheap' s-video adapter. |
| [20:13:00] | quantm__: | no don't think so |
| [20:13:00] | eidolon: | i need one that specifically will carry the color signal. |
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| [20:14:00] | Kury: | quantm: well try typing /etc/init.d/lircd start |
| [20:15:00] | quantm__: | just a sec |
| [20:16:00] | Kury: | I'll be back in a bit... |
| [20:17:00] | quantm__: | bash: /etc/init.d/lircd: No such file or directory |
| [20:21:00] | laga: | ls /etc/init.d/li* |
| [20:21:00] | quantm__: | not there, how do I create the lircd stuff in rc.d |
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| [20:21:00] | laga: | quantm__: do you have lirc installed? |
| [20:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | a wonderful topic! |
| [20:21:00] | quantm__: | yes, I installed it from the source file |
| [20:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does anyone know how to use page up and page down in lircrc? |
| [20:22:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: yep! :) |
| [20:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | care to share? |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: of course. pour guy doesn't have a lirc init script. |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | poor* |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | (darn French. ;)) |
| [20:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | quantm__: check the source tarball if there are any init scripts supplied |
| [20:24:00] | eidolon: | gosh. we don't have color. xmame is sorta boring.. WAIT! cept for things like, asteroids! and... battlezone! |
| [20:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | some crafty googling may have yielded a result to my query |
| [20:26:00] | quantm__: | no there does not appear to be |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | quantm__: what distro are you running? |
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| [20:27:00] | quantm__: | fc3 |
| [20:27:00] | laga: | quantm__: why did you install it from source? |
| [20:27:00] | quantm__: | can't get it to work |
| [20:28:00] | laga: | quantm__: ok. |
| [20:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh yeah, I have another niggle with mythfrontend right now – it misplaces the OSD. It only started happening as of SVN > ~7980 |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | quantm__: i'd suggest that you just start lircd manually. or for example, in /etc/rc.local |
| [20:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | all OSD is really big, and off the bottom of the screen |
| [20:29:00] | dev-: | use tittilus |
| [20:29:00] | dev-: | it raps and looks nice and such. |
| [20:30:00] | dev-: | wraps heh |
| [20:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | uhm, actually, I think I do – is it the blue gradient one with the yellow progress bar? |
| [20:30:00] | dev-: | no |
| [20:31:00] | quantm__: | hmm tried copying all the stuff from another system for lircd in rcX.d to the current system |
| [20:31:00] | quantm__: | still service lircd start doesn |
| [20:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'll go check to see what I'm using |
| [20:31:00] | quantm__: | doesn't work |
| [20:31:00] | eidolon: | so... whatever genius put into the knoppmyth distribtion a copy of the xf86config-4 file that is ALREADY configured for nvidia + s-video... should be up for sainthood. |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | eidolon: didn't i tell you? :) |
| [20:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh, it's not that hard to get it working, but it's nice to have working references to look off of |
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| [20:32:00] | laga: | righto. ;) |
| [20:33:00] | eidolon: | laga: heh. you did tell me to look at the nvidia readme docs, which i was... |
| [20:33:00] | eidolon: | but i didn't know there was a preconfigured conf file :) |
| [20:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'm using isthmus |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | eidolon: i told you to look in /etc/X11/ for an example file := |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [20:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and mythcenter for the main theme |
| [20:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but the placement of the OSD is way screwy |
| [20:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's off the bottom of my screen |
| [20:34:00] | Kleptophobiac: | almost like myth thinks my screen is twice as tall as it should be |
| [20:34:00] | eidolon: | laga: i apologize for not taking your advice. :) but still, whoever did that deserves a medal. |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | eidolon: right. knoppmyth is nice, but i like tinkering ;) |
| [20:35:00] | eidolon: | but unfortunately i have the el cheapo RCA <-> S-Video adapter. so only black and white. gonna go see if i can stump the Tweeters home theater geeks later on:) |
| [20:36:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep, tinkering is awesome, all hail arch linux |
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| [20:36:00] | laga: | all hail slackware. i don't use it, though :) |
| [20:36:00] | jemarcks: | I started in linux with slackware in the mid 90s |
| [20:37:00] | eidolon: | yah, i'll go tinkering soon. but i'm reaching a happy medium here. mythmusi cis workig (as much as it does). mythgame is working (mostly – as functioal as it was in this snapshot). livetv and recording is working, mythweb isworking (again, as much as it does). i'm pretty happy :) |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | i need to install my svn build with the new liveTV. should be spiffy stuff |
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| [20:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | slack was my first "favorite" distro, but I moved on to arch (which is a lot like slack, but nicer) |
| [20:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | btw |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | i should try it, then. currently, i like ubuntu. |
| [20:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | kudos to whoever made channel change quick for livetv |
| [20:39:00] | eidolon: | hah. my friend just found 'timepiliot '84' in my xmame list. he's gone for the next few hours. |
| [20:39:00] | eidolon: | Kleptophobiac: ooo. there's a reason to run svn. |
| [20:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep |
| [20:39:00] | laga: | eidolon: i put my little cousin in front of mythgame in the morning. good stuff. |
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| [20:39:00] | eidolon: | i'm actually disappointed in the performance of mythfrontend. it's very sluggish. |
| [20:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, don't hope to see the mythbox for a couple days |
| [20:39:00] | eidolon: | laga: what age? |
| [20:39:00] | laga: | eidolon: 9 years |
| [20:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep |
| [20:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's gone for a week |
| [20:40:00] | eidolon: | heh. my son just turned 7. he's very into Gauntlet :) |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | fsck. my leg fell asleep. umm, anyways. |
| [20:40:00] | eidolon: | the usb joysticks we're using are working well. |
| [20:40:00] | eidolon: | they were dirt cheap. |
| [20:41:00] | poop: | And they're good for mythtv |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | it's sad that my asus pundit doesn't support opengl. mupen64 won't work well. |
| [20:41:00] | poop: | If you don't mind being wired. |
| [20:41:00] | poop: | mupen64 isn't so good |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | eidolon: i had the problem that my usb gamepad had different key mappings every time i plugged it in. |
| [20:42:00] | eidolon: | poop: yeah, i'm nto into buying the wireless ones yet... more money (this is a TOTAL budget-less project atm :) – than i want to spend now. i did woot.com a wireless keyboard and a 250gig drive though. and with a usb hub out on a 'tether', you can sit ont he couch and blow shit up pretty well. |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | poop: it works well with mario 64, at least. what can you recommend for n64 emulator? |
| [20:42:00] | eidolon: | laga: oh that's not good. we're using gamepads now (MEGA gamepad or some idiocy like that) |
| [20:42:00] | poop: | laga: That's the only one for linux, but maybe one runs in wine |
| [20:42:00] | poop: | or cedega |
| [20:43:00] | eidolon: | input: USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [Mega World USB 2-Axis 8-Button Gamepad] on usb-0000:00:02.3–1.2 |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | eidolon: i think that it's working now. i have to check, but i dont use mythgame often. |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | Bus 003 Device 003: ID 07b5:0314 Mega World International, Ltd |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:43:00] | eidolon: | hee hee :) |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | nice :). does it look like a playstation controller? |
| [20:44:00] | eidolon: | thing i have to check is to see what order the pads are initialized, so if i have 4 controllers, will they always be pad 1,2,3,4... if so, I'll label them and the jacks they go into... it's important for things like Gauntlet. |
| [20:45:00] | poop: | I have a rumblepad which I used to play snes zelda. |
| [20:45:00] | eidolon: | i haven't gone the snes and other emulators yet. |
| [20:45:00] | eidolon: | i wonder if there's a limit to how far my copyright infringement will go. |
| [20:45:00] | Kury: | I need a lirc expert....... |
| [20:46:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Kury – what's wrong? (not that I'm an expert, but mine works) |
| [20:46:00] | ** eidolon has no lirc support :( ** | |
| [20:46:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh yeah, examples of my OSD fubaring – http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8413/mythimg011pd.jpg |
| [20:46:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/1343/mythimg020uz.jpg |
| [20:47:00] | eidolon: | mythbusters! |
| [20:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep |
| [20:47:00] | eidolon: | (nice screen! i have a TOTAL el crappo toshiba generic 27" tv) |
| [20:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | thanks! it took me quite some time to talk the family into getting a real tv |
| [20:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | we had a 1995 vintage 25" before that |
| [20:47:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: well, do you follow -dev and -commits? |
| [20:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yes, but with poor regularity |
| [20:48:00] | Kury: | kleptophobiac: ... I can't seem to get irxevent to pass the parameters to my program... |
| [20:48:00] | eidolon: | http://www.flickr.com/photos/planet-geek/67132500/ <-- my setuyp. though now i can remove the 21" monitor. |
| [20:48:00] | eidolon: | it looks so cheesy :) |
| [20:48:00] | quantm__: | ok I have lircd reinstall with the latest version but it still only crashes |
| [20:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :p |
| [20:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | whatever it takes to run myth, it must be done |
| [20:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [20:49:00] | quantm__: | could not open /dev/lirc |
| [20:49:00] | quantm__: | lircd-0.8.0-CVS[16386]: default_init(): No such device |
| [20:49:00] | eidolon: | yah, well – i've been wanting to do an xarcade type machine for ages. now i have that AND a pvr AND a music / media system and and and. :) |
| [20:49:00] | Kleptophobiac: | quantm__ have you loaded the lirc modules for your remote? |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | http://de.mythtvtalk.com/forum/album_personal.php?user_id=12 <- my setup |
| [20:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | now I'm compelled to go take a real photo of the whole setup |
| [20:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | brb |
| [20:50:00] | quantm__: | Kleptophobiac, : I think so, |
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| [20:51:00] | eidolon: | dayam. all you olks with nice tvs. |
| [20:51:00] | quantm__: | Kleptophobiac, : yeah I have a lircd.conf file in /etc |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | eidolon: it's not mine. my parents' :/ |
| [20:51:00] | eidolon: | i see :) |
| [20:51:00] | eidolon: | "you kids." |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [20:51:00] | quantm__: | Kleptophobiac, : I have been working ont his for days, can't figure it out |
| [20:52:00] | quantm__: | the error message is totally useless |
| [20:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | quantm__ does lsmod say the modules loaded ok? |
| [20:54:00] | quantm__: | lirc_i2c 10116 0 |
| [20:54:00] | quantm__: | lirc_dev 13508 1 lirc_i2c |
| [20:54:00] | quantm__: | i2c_core 21313 7 lirc_i2c,tda9887,msp3400,saa7115,tuner,tveeprom,i2c_algo_bit |
| [20:54:00] | quantm__: | guess so |
| [20:54:00] | Kleptophobiac: | lirc_i2c... do you have an onboard remote device? ie, on a tuner? |
| [20:54:00] | quantm__: | I have a pvr250 card |
| [20:54:00] | quantm__: | Hauappage |
| [20:55:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [20:55:00] | Kleptophobiac: | do you have a /dev/lirc0 device? |
| [20:55:00] | quantm__: | used to work fine before I upgraded |
| [20:55:00] | quantm__: | no |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | the lirc packages in FC3 worked well for me with a pvr 250. |
| [20:55:00] | quantm__: | I just have lircm, lirc, and lircd |
| [20:55:00] | quantm__: | devices |
| [20:55:00] | poop: | I can't find a stud in my ceiling to mount my projector from. |
| [20:56:00] | quantm__: | poop, : use walboard mounts they hold up to 50lbs if you get the good ones |
| [20:56:00] | quantm__: | anchors |
| [20:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | have you tried running lircd, but not in daemon mode, specifying /dev/lirc? |
| [20:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/7747/mythimg036zp.jpg |
| [20:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | my frontend setup |
| [20:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | not pictured are the zsnes gamepads |
| [20:57:00] | quantm__: | lircd -n -d /dev/lirc |
| [20:58:00] | quantm__: | this does the same thing, could not open /dev/lirc |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what are the perms on /dev/lirc? |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | also |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does dmesg or /var/log/messages show anything when you load the lirc modules? |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and does your kernel have i2c support built in? |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: now that's helluva spiffy. |
| [20:58:00] | quantm__: | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 Nov 26 14:47 /dev/lirc |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hmm |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and the log outputs |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | laga – thanks |
| [20:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | cheapass speakers, but I'm no audiophile |
| [21:00:00] | eidolon: | Kleptophobiac: verrahnice. i haven't invested in any 'nice stuff' yet at all. just getting it working is a goal in itself. |
| [21:00:00] | eidolon: | though getting a decent case would be nice. |
| [21:00:00] | quantm__: | Kleptophobiac, no messages don't seem to show anything |
| [21:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | indeed |
| [21:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I worked pretty hard to get the WAF up |
| [21:00:00] | eidolon: | WAF? |
| [21:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | wife acceptance factor |
| [21:01:00] | quantm__: | what does could not get file information for /dev/lirc mean |
| [21:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'm not entirely certain |
| [21:02:00] | quantm__: | at this point the only thing I can do is go with the nuclear option it loks like |
| [21:02:00] | quantm__: | which kind of sucks |
| [21:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | fdisk? |
| [21:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | or a keyboard? |
| [21:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | are you running a stock kernel or a custom one? |
| [21:03:00] | quantm__: | format the sucker and revert to a backup copy |
| [21:03:00] | quantm__: | but that kind of sucks |
| [21:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :( |
| [21:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | use Arch Linux! It pwns! |
| [21:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I have SVN pkgbuilds for it |
| [21:04:00] | quantm__: | I have seen posts to the problem but no solutions... they alway make a symlink and say it works, but not for me |
| [21:04:00] | ** laga has got debian sarge. ** | |
| [21:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | laga, is this the thread you were talking about? |
| [21:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/163267 |
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| [21:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | laga, also, I'm a slacker about reading commits, usually just -dev (at least, I usually check -dev daily) |
| [21:07:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: i have no clue, it was just a general suggestion |
| [21:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | heh |
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| [21:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, I haven't noticed anyone else complaining about my particular problem |
| [21:10:00] | amorphix: | hi |
| [21:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | hi |
| [21:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | welcome to spambot 0.7.9 |
| [21:10:00] | amorphix: | does anyone know what the status is of the debian mythtv packages/source |
| [21:10:00] | amorphix: | the unstable directory appears to be empty |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | amorphix: did you read the thread in -dev? |
| [21:10:00] | amorphix: | no |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | amorphix: wiat a second |
| [21:11:00] | amorphix: | ok im reading |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | ok, go and read. my firefox has just crashed. |
| [21:14:00] | amorphix: | phew just my luck :( |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | hhe |
| [21:14:00] | amorphix: | no debian packages being maintained |
| [21:14:00] | amorphix: | its all a big mess |
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| [21:14:00] | laga: | you could roll your own |
| [21:15:00] | amorphix: | i must try to compile from tarball then |
| [21:15:00] | amorphix: | but i dont think my chances will be good |
| [21:15:00] | dagfinnr: | hello, where can i get apt-packages for debian? Tried a howto at http://www.geocities.com/dlou99/mythtv.html, but apt couldnt find the packages (maybe old howto?) |
| [21:15:00] | laga: | amorphix: you could get the source packages. and build them. |
| [21:16:00] | amorphix: | where can I get the source packages from? |
| [21:16:00] | tristan77x: | i'm building my stuff from source |
| [21:16:00] | amorphix: | the only depositery has removed all files |
| [21:16:00] | laga: | amorphix: well, where would you get the binary packages? ;) |
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| [21:16:00] | amorphix: | its all been cleared :-( |
| [21:17:00] | laga: | sad. |
| [21:17:00] | amorphix: | cuz he cant continue to maintain them he's removed them |
| [21:17:00] | amorphix: | so thats that |
| [21:17:00] | laga: | that sucks. |
| [21:17:00] | ** Kleptophobiac hints that arch linux rocks ** | |
| [21:17:00] | amorphix: | ya |
| [21:17:00] | dagfinnr: | so then you cant use apt to install mythtv anymore? |
| [21:17:00] | amorphix: | thats right |
| [21:17:00] | amorphix: | unless... |
| [21:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://mstcforum.com/uploads/images/sashas-network-001.jpg |
| [21:17:00] | laga: | amorphix: well. i could give you a link to a patch, but that's for the SVN version. |
| [21:18:00] | amorphix: | i noticed here's still got some old archived the debian packages, but i wouldnt like to install these, i dunno the status of them |
| [21:18:00] | laga: | amorphix: hey, wait. i think i have the source packages!! |
| [21:18:00] | amorphix: | cool |
| [21:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | also, is there a good place to go browsing for third party themes? |
| [21:19:00] | amorphix: | someone should put the last source testing packages up somewhere and post to Mythtv mailing list eh |
| [21:19:00] | amorphix: | or update the doc |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | amorphix: bbiaf :) |
| [21:20:00] | dagfinnr: | what x window system is recommended for mythtv? |
| [21:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | minimal |
| [21:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I like fluxbox |
| [21:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but ratpoison seems to be popular |
| [21:21:00] | amorphix: | :) |
| [21:21:00] | tristan77x: | i think no window system at all is needed |
| [21:21:00] | dagfinnr: | i would like to run programs like dc++ etc too, its that runnable in those? |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | uhm, it's good to have a window system |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | makes sure focus moves around properly |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and allows you to debug when things go wrong |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | which is why I really like fluxbox |
| [21:21:00] | dagfinnr: | so, which one is recommended, and easy to use :) |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | fluxbox is easy to use |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you click and open a console and do whatever |
| [21:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [21:22:00] | tristan77x: | hmm, i ever ran without a WM, didnt miss anything |
| [21:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's uber uber minimal |
| [21:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I tried using twm, but it SUCKED |
| [21:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I take it you ran "naked X"? |
| [21:23:00] | tristan77x: | yeah, .xsession of that account has "exec mythfrontend" thats all |
| [21:23:00] | tristan77x: | the debug info goes to .xsession-errors |
| [21:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's not bad, but isn't it a pain to open up browsers and consoles when you need to on the spot fix something? |
| [21:24:00] | tristan77x: | i've read about the focus issue but i never experienced it |
| [21:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I suspect it breaks myth in windowed mode |
| [21:25:00] | tristan77x: | hmm, break in which way? myth doesn't rely on any WM being run, AFAIK? |
| [21:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I think in windowed mode it might. Fullscreen shouldn't be a problem |
| [21:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I am also unsure how it would handle mplayer (for mythvideo) |
| [21:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and being able to run firefox on my tv is just awesome, so I leave it running fluxbox (which is super lightweight) |
| [21:26:00] | tristan77x: | i only ran it in fullscreen mode :) |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | amorphix: looking for the file now.. |
| [21:27:00] | tristan77x: | about handling of ext player: i run xine, i prefer it for dvd watching over mplayer, xine has a setting to force it on top of screen |
| [21:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I don't really like xine, it feels bloaty |
| [21:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I don't care at all about DVD menus |
| [21:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that and it keeps changing languages on me |
| [21:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | while mplayer doesn't |
| [21:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but to each his own |
| [21:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | in any case, no wm or minimal wm... just for the love of all things chocolate, don't use KDE/gnome |
| [21:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | brb to try grey's OSD |
| [21:29:00] | tristan77x: | Kleptophobiac: ;) |
| [21:29:00] | laga: | amorphix: laga.ath.cx/~laga/mythtv/ apply the .diff.gz against mythtv 0.18.1 |
| [21:29:00] | Goose-Npa: | anyone using mythgame/ |
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| [21:34:00] | tristan77x: | any QT professional around? |
| [21:35:00] | steveybaby2: | do any of you people run myth in the uk? |
| [21:36:00] | steveybaby2: | ive been looking thro the source, but still cant understand why bbc two and sky travel have not be showing correctly lately |
| [21:37:00] | steveybaby2: | its as tho the two audio pids are enabled at the same time :) |
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| [21:42:00] | Scuzzle: | steveybaby2: I run it in the UK. |
| [21:42:00] | steveybaby2: | nice! |
| [21:42:00] | steveybaby2: | have you been having problems with some channels 'stuttering' the audio / video |
| [21:43:00] | steveybaby2: | ie. now on bbc 2? |
| [21:43:00] | Scuzzle: | No, but I can check in a little while. Can't check right this second as runnign a recording til 10pm. |
| [21:43:00] | Scuzzle: | Only have one tuner :( |
| [21:43:00] | steveybaby2: | :) thats cool – cheers that would be good |
| [21:44:00] | steveybaby2: | ive had 3 recordings of 24 fail because of this dodgy problem |
| [21:44:00] | steveybaby2: | :( |
| [21:44:00] | steveybaby2: | seems very random tho |
| [21:44:00] | Scuzzle: | I'm currently having problems with my XBox frontend, don't suppose you've played with one of those? |
| [21:45:00] | steveybaby2: | i havent im afraid – i run it all on one box |
| [21:45:00] | steveybaby2: | whats wrong with it? |
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| [21:47:00] | Scuzzle: | Have two different problems when playing back recordings. 1) Log a 'player timeout' and that playback stops. 2) Log a 'bad_alloc' message as the player starts, and the whole frontend application exits. |
| [21:47:00] | Scuzzle: | Some recordings work just fine. |
| [21:48:00] | steveybaby2: | hmmm |
| [21:48:00] | Scuzzle: | It's driving me up the wall :/ |
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| [21:49:00] | steveybaby2: | i wouldnt like to say what to suggest – the only thing ive heard about xbox frontends was from someone at work, and he gave us coz of problems |
| [21:49:00] | Scuzzle: | Even installed XBMC on the xbox, to link to the mythbackend without using the frontend application, but it has it's own issues with some recordings. |
| [21:50:00] | Scuzzle: | Currently thinking about building a quiet (hopefully fanless) PC to use as a whole new frontend, but that's a bit of an expense, so I'd like to avoid it. |
| [21:50:00] | Aharonov: | what's the lirc device? I build static kernels, and I wonder about "add above ivtv" stuff in modules.conf |
| [21:51:00] | steveybaby2: | you could build a nice network boot mini-itx box – you avoid the fans on the processor and the hdd noise too |
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| [21:51:00] | steveybaby2: | with the ms10000 board anyway :) but yeah, expensive next to an xbox |
| [21:51:00] | Aharonov: | steveybaby2, that's my plan. only CF boot, with data on NFS. |
| [21:52:00] | steveybaby2: | Aharonov: sounds like a nice setup ;) |
| [21:52:00] | Scuzzle: | That's what I'm heading for I think. My only reservation is I've been told that the XBox 'player timeout' problem may be caused by it being just too slow to decode the MPEG stream. If I build a new fanless box, is it going to be fast enough? |
| [21:52:00] | Aharonov: | I'm looking for help on getting a second Xserver running on a desktop with a PVR-350. I don't want a dual screen setup for a single Xserver. |
| [21:53:00] | Aharonov: | Scuzzle, ms10000 has mpeg decode on the TVout. |
| [21:53:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: yeah, you can get 1gb fanless, i do the whole lot (front and back end) on my ms10000 |
| [21:53:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: all under gentoo, check out www.mythbox.co.uk :) |
| [21:54:00] | Scuzzle: | Really? I might just do that then. I'll huntaround for some kit on the internet just now, while I'm waiting to do that test for you stevey. |
| [21:54:00] | steveybaby2: | nice one, cheers :D |
| [21:55:00] | steveybaby2: | i cant even blame the bbc, its done it on sky 3/travel too :-/ |
| [21:56:00] | Scuzzle: | Have either of you used a SP8000 it lists as having hardware assisted MPEG4 playback, that might be handy for my archived DivX's. Are there any Linux drivers for it I wonder... |
| [21:56:00] | steveybaby2: | yep |
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| [21:56:00] | steveybaby2: | unichrome drivers do all, but last i heard, support for that chipset was not mature |
| [21:56:00] | steveybaby2: | cn400 chipset that is |
| [21:56:00] | Scuzzle: | You want to state a preference then? MS10000 or SP8000? |
| [21:57:00] | steveybaby2: | sp8000 is nice for divx like you say, but you might have to suffer beta performance until they get the drivers stable |
| [21:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | back |
| [21:57:00] | steveybaby2: | i didnt like that option :) |
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| [21:58:00] | Scuzzle: | Can you run the MS10000 fanless? The site I'm glancing at has it with a fan. |
| [21:58:00] | SqWaw: | For a gentoo installation, what stage installation is reccomended? |
| [21:58:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: yep, its fanless, but the ms12000 isn't |
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| [21:59:00] | SqWaw: | seen cardoe |
| [21:59:00] | Aharonov: | ms10000 can run fanless. |
| [21:59:00] | SqWaw: | !seen cardoe |
| [21:59:00] | laga: | SqWaw: won't work |
| [21:59:00] | steveybaby2: | SqWaw: stage 2 if you have specific hardware – so you can compile it rather than use binaries. or stage 1 if youre hardcore :D |
| [21:59:00] | SqWaw: | Yeh, I noticed.... |
| [22:00:00] | SqWaw: | I don't have any specific hardware that doesn't work by default... That I know of atleast... |
| [22:00:00] | SqWaw: | So I guess stage three is fine |
| [22:00:00] | NightBird: | so my friend found a laptop on amazon that advertized a 10ghz athalon, and 10000gb of hd space... only 2000mb of ram though |
| [22:00:00] | Scuzzle: | steveybaby2: Where in the UK did you buy your hardware? |
| [22:01:00] | NightBird: | one of the reviews said that it only ran at 9.7 ghz |
| [22:01:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: scratch bbc 2, it works on there now, but not sky travel – 24 is all nackered |
| [22:02:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: hold on, will check – i cant remember |
| [22:02:00] | Scuzzle: | Just booting up the frontend now, will check Sky Travel any time now... :) |
| [22:03:00] | mishehu: | hmm.... why is it that anytime I want to transcode anything I've recorded in mythtv with my pvr250 in standard quality mode, that I have to pass transcode the resolution of 480x480 for it to transcode properly, but it never has the proper aspect ratio? |
| [22:03:00] | tristan77x: | 10ghz...grin... |
| [22:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does anybody have FF/RW working past 3x speed? Whenever I press "play" while going faster than 3x, it teleports me back to the start of the recording or to wherever I started FF/RW from |
| [22:03:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: i got some bits from mini-itx.com, but found another supplier too |
| [22:03:00] | mishehu: | (and shouldn't it be 640x480 to keep with the 4:3 raatio?) |
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| [22:05:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: one thing i will say about the ms's is that youll probably need to make your own cables – only ps2 headers are included with the board |
| [22:06:00] | Scuzzle: | I was just reading up on it. Do you use a remote control with your box? |
| [22:06:00] | Scuzzle: | I wasn't planning a keyboard or mouse. |
| [22:06:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, finally got it working |
| [22:06:00] | steveybaby2: | another supplier: http://www.icp-epia.co.uk/site/index.php |
| [22:07:00] | steveybaby2: | i used a keyboard and mouse for while i got it off of the ground |
| [22:08:00] | steveybaby2: | once youve got a reliable network, theres always vnc and ssh ;) |
| [22:08:00] | Scuzzle: | Remember I've been using an XBox frontent, so SSH and a remote control are what I'm used to. ;) |
| [22:09:00] | steveybaby2: | fair point |
| [22:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | poke poke – anybody use >3x FF/REW? |
| [22:12:00] | steveybaby2: | how does 24 look on your setup scuzzle? |
| [22:12:00] | Scuzzle: | steveybaby2: I'm just running a 5min recording on Sky Travel, to to that test. |
| [22:12:00] | Scuzzle: | Oops, which channel was it again? |
| [22:12:00] | steveybaby2: | sky travel, 11 i think |
| [22:12:00] | Scuzzle: | Ok, got that recording right now. |
| [22:13:00] | steveybaby2: | cool, ta |
| [22:13:00] | Scuzzle: | Have your files just been failing to play on the frontend? Have you tried moving them to a PC? |
| [22:14:00] | steveybaby2: | even when i do the 'watch tv' option in myth frontend, it all stutters |
| [22:14:00] | steveybaby2: | im not sure whether two audio pids are playing at the same time, coz when i try to play the other i get nothing |
| [22:14:00] | steveybaby2: | it plays thro xine ok |
| [22:15:00] | steveybaby2: | where are you based scuzzle? |
| [22:15:00] | Scuzzle: | Aberdeen, you? |
| [22:15:00] | steveybaby2: | leeds |
| [22:16:00] | steveybaby2: | different transmitters then :) |
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| [22:17:00] | SqWaw: | xfs or jfs for the root partition and the /media partition ? |
| [22:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | reiserfs for root and xfs for media |
| [22:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [22:17:00] | tristan77x: | SqWaw: here i run xfs couple of times nicely |
| [22:17:00] | SqWaw: | Is xfs overall better than jfs? |
| [22:18:00] | tristan77x: | it seems to be maintained ;) |
| [22:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and it hasn't eaten any data for me, while JFS has |
| [22:19:00] | tristan77x: | hehe |
| [22:19:00] | mishehu: | xfs is good for very large files |
| [22:19:00] | tristan77x: | yeah |
| [22:20:00] | mishehu: | jfs is sorta middle of hte road, and while reiserfs and reiser4 are fairly middle of the road too, they have a great ability to handle lots of small files. |
| [22:21:00] | SqWaw: | Okay |
| [22:21:00] | Scuzzle: | steneybaby2: That recording worked fine, so may be to do with the transmitter. |
| [22:21:00] | SqWaw: | then xfs it is :) |
| [22:21:00] | tristan77x: | mishehu: but for such setup as media storage for myth, xfs is a lot faster |
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| [22:21:00] | tristan77x: | i dont trust reiser much, i've lost a lot of data couple of times |
| [22:22:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: bugger – i was worried you'd say that. if myth can't parse the pids out as it should im screwed! |
| [22:22:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: what version of myth do you run? |
| [22:22:00] | Scuzzle: | 18.1 |
| [22:22:00] | laga: | great. i recorded some sci-fi soft porn instead of south park. |
| [22:23:00] | Scuzzle: | Or 0.18.1 if I remember the bit at the start... :/ |
| [22:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | xfs for media, indeed (large files) and reiserfs for root (small files) |
| [22:24:00] | tristan77x: | yes, xfs for root won't work with most boot loaders anyways AFAIK |
| [22:24:00] | steveybaby2: | same as me |
| [22:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it works, but it's iffy |
| [22:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I think lilo can do it |
| [22:24:00] | steveybaby2: | ill have to keep digging with the debug on 'all' |
| [22:25:00] | tristan77x: | mh, havent got it to work, which loader have you use? |
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| [22:26:00] | Scuzzle: | steveybaby2: Is the debugging giving you any clues at all? |
| [22:27:00] | steveybaby2: | Scuzzle: tbh, the digging started when i patched redhot :) now ive figured bits out here and there im tempted to patch this problem |
| [22:27:00] | mishehu: | tristan77x: exactly as I see it too. |
| [22:27:00] | steveybaby2: | it did mess me around a while back, but that was 1 in every 100 records or so, not like now |
| [22:27:00] | mishehu: | gah |
| [22:27:00] | mishehu: | bitchx is borking up on me |
| [22:28:00] | laga: | mishehu: man irssi |
| [22:28:00] | mishehu: | keeps pausing this screen. |
| [22:28:00] | mishehu: | laga: man woman; make love; installpkg inwoman.tgz |
| [22:28:00] | Scuzzle: | steveybaby2: Well good luck with it. |
| [22:28:00] | mishehu: | if I wanted to use irsii I would have used it years ago. |
| [22:28:00] | steveybaby2: | cheers, same to you with your xbox frontend. sorry i could help |
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| [22:29:00] | Scuzzle: | I'm just pricing up a replacment using ITX as you suggested, but cost is a factor. |
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| [22:30:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah – diskless would probably set you back 350+ |
| [22:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anybody know offhand where to set the forward and backward default skip amounts? |
| [22:30:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I use a diskless fe... NFS root to backend server. Cheap! |
| [22:31:00] | tristan77x: | yeah nfs rules |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | klp |
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| [22:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | indeed it does |
| [22:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | laga, yes? |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | err, Kleptophobiac: and quiet. |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: hehe ;) |
| [22:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | my fe is uber quiet, doesn't warm up the room, and I can just push the rest button without having to worry about fs corruption |
| [22:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yay |
| [22:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | *reset |
| [22:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and it's *almost* as fast as having the disk onboard |
| [22:32:00] | mishehu: | *sqwak* reboot! reboot! *whistle* |
| [22:32:00] | mishehu: | err sorry, that was my parrot... I trained it to be my tier 1 tech support |
| [22:32:00] | Aharonov: | pwd |
| [22:32:00] | Aharonov: | ls |
| [22:32:00] | mishehu: | for my obnoxious clients. |
| [22:33:00] | Aharonov: | duh. wrong window active. anyone setup a seperate X on the frame buffer? |
| [22:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | btw, holy crap the mythtv config menus suck |
| [22:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | they're thoroughly disorganized and hard to find stuff in |
| [22:33:00] | NightBird: | could be worse :P |
| [22:33:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I know that there's an option I want to change, *but I can't find the damn thing* |
| [22:34:00] | mishehu: | Kleptophobiac: I'm kinda used to them. |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: i optimized a few things. for example, hotplug was slow, so i decided to disable it and load the needed stuff via /etc/modules. gave me approximatelxy 5 seconds |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | Kleptophobiac: my diskless FE needs about one minute from power button to mythfrontend which is quite good for a 600mhz machine |
| [22:35:00] | Aharonov: | one minute? |
| [22:35:00] | Aharonov: | that's pretty slow. |
| [22:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I switched from hotplug to hwd |
| [22:35:00] | Aharonov: | add "quiet" to the kernel boot options. |
| [22:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | much quicker |
| [22:35:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and it's about a minute for mine as well |
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| [22:35:00] | laga: | Aharonov: not for such a machine, i believe. for example, it takes bloody ages for mythfrontend to start on this machine :) |
| [22:35:00] | gakalkag: | didnt time mine epia running minimyth |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | Aharonov: does "quiet" speed up things? why? |
| [22:35:00] | mishehu: | laga: whats an FE ? |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | mishehu: an frontend |
| [22:36:00] | Aharonov: | do you have any local disks? if not, compile out the IDE stuff, since it spends some time probing the IDE buses, which are probably empty. |
| [22:36:00] | mishehu: | laga: ah, thought you were talking about some wonky hardware I never heard of. ;-) |
| [22:36:00] | Scuzzle: | Klepto, I think there the values 'FastForwardAmount' and 'RewindAmount' in the settings table, you could always adjust them there. |
| [22:36:00] | laga: | mishehu: hehe |
| [22:36:00] | laga: | Aharonov: they are empty, indeed. thanks for the hint. |
| [22:36:00] | Aharonov: | quiet means that the kernel doesn't spew stuff out. (still in dmesg). It definitely speeds up a lot of systems, because moving those screen bits around happens through |
| [22:37:00] | mishehu: | how those of you using the epias like them? i've not tried any mini-itx, and was leaning a bit more towards a mini-itx with a pentium4-m chip |
| [22:37:00] | Aharonov: | the "VGA" interface. (the one at 0xA0000, etc.) |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | Aharonov: thanks! i'll have to try that. |
| [22:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Scuzzle – I think I'll do that, it's easier to search the settings tables than use the damn menus |
| [22:37:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ehh, I have a "large" system, using a full size ATX board |
| [22:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/7747/mythimg036zp.jpg |
| [22:38:00] | Kleptophobiac: | as posted before today |
| [22:38:00] | Aharonov: | think about statically linking the mythtv front end --- I haven't tried it yet, but it depends upon a lot of libraries. they all have to be relocated. |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | Aharonov: i believe i used prelink which should give me similar results. |
| [22:38:00] | Aharonov: | this might fail to due to stupid qt stuff. |
| [22:39:00] | Aharonov: | I just can't get the BusID right. |
| [22:40:00] | Aharonov: | I assume that I'm supposed to specify the busid of: |
| [22:40:00] | Aharonov: | 0000:00:11.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [22:40:00] | Aharonov: | since that's in hex, it should be: cassidy-[~mythtv] root 14 #grep BusID /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.pvr |
| [22:40:00] | Aharonov: | BusID "PCI:00:17.0" # get the ID with lspci convert the value from hexa to decimal |
| [22:40:00] | Aharonov: | but, it odesn't work.... |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | thats because the hardware mpeg2 encoder isnt what displays shit on tv |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | bzzt try again ;p |
| [22:41:00] | Aharonov: | okay, what should it be? there isn't anything else in the PCI listing. |
| [22:41:00] | Aharonov: | it's a PVR350. I got the test pattern out of it. |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | just try everyone if you dont know :) |
| [22:41:00] | Aharonov: | that's silly. |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | so is guessing its the mpeg2 encoder |
| [22:42:00] | Aharonov: | I agree. |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | does someone of you know how to fix this xine error: |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | WARN: TRACKS.SVD filesize != 2048! |
| [22:42:00] | dev-: | there are shitloads of writeups on how to configure myth with a pvr350, im sure you can find one. |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | it occures whe i want to play (s)vcds |
| [22:42:00] | Aharonov: | on bus 1, I have the AGP, which has two devices (that's the normal video display) |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | bbut some work |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | and some not |
| [22:42:00] | Aharonov: | dev-, thanks. I read three of them. |
| [22:44:00] | tristan77x: | try to specify the bus id as "00:11:00" that did it for me |
| [22:44:00] | rsdvd: | Hi all..........can anyone give me a a link to some docs explaining how to set up the channels etc for Sky TV? |
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| [22:48:00] | Kleptophobiac: | argh, this ff/rw thing is driving me crazy |
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| [22:48:00] | mishehu: | anybody remember what's the diff between mpeg2 ps and ts ? |
| [22:49:00] | Kleptophobiac: | TS = transport stream and is used only when you have somethiing like DVB |
| [22:49:00] | Kleptophobiac: | otherwise use PS (program stream, iirc) |
| [22:49:00] | mishehu: | right |
| [22:49:00] | mishehu: | thanks |
| [22:49:00] | Kleptophobiac: | np |
| [22:49:00] | mishehu: | am testing out avidemux right now |
| [22:50:00] | Scuzzle: | If you're using DVB do record a TS though, it wokrs better than the option to record a PS. |
| [22:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what is avidemux? |
| [22:50:00] | linuxbomb: | I have a nvidia graphics card and when watching live tv there is a blue border around the edges , this blue border appears on any player using xv but x11 is ok is there a way to set live tv to use x11? |
| [22:50:00] | Aharonov: | some progress with tristan's suggestion, and going back to "fbdev" (vs ivtvdev), but the kernel says ivtv-osd: MMAP is not safe for ivtv usage |
| [22:50:00] | mishehu: | yeah, I'm just editing some video I recorded with my pvr250 |
| [22:50:00] | Aharonov: | and I get an error. |
| [22:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | linuxwhore – well documented |
| [22:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | err |
| [22:50:00] | Kleptophobiac: | linuxbomb – well documented |
| [22:50:00] | mishehu: | Kleptophobiac: it's a gtk+ based program for simple video editting. |
| [22:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mishehu, thx |
| [22:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | linuxbomb, let me look it up real quick |
| [22:51:00] | mishehu: | it's a lot faster than using pinnacle studio plus for stripping out commercials |
| [22:51:00] | linuxbomb: | Kleptophobiac ok |
| [22:51:00] | mishehu: | then I'll use transcode to do the trancoding and filtering |
| [22:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | linuxbomb, it's an xv polygon default color thing |
| [22:51:00] | Kleptophobiac: | there is no real "fix", but there is a dandy workaround |
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| [22:52:00] | linuxbomb: | make it black |
| [22:52:00] | Kleptophobiac: | usr/bin/xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 66048 & |
| [22:52:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep |
| [22:52:00] | Kleptophobiac: | make sure you have xvattr installed |
| [22:52:00] | linuxbomb: | i dont have xvattr and no repos for it |
| [22:52:00] | mishehu: | space is the place for me to be... |
| [22:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, go install it |
| [22:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :p |
| [22:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | source code never hurt anyone |
| [22:53:00] | amorphix: | what is lame |
| [22:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | unless you're in an aircraft with faulty software, that is |
| [22:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | lame ain't an mp3 encoder |
| [22:53:00] | amorphix: | what is it then |
| [22:53:00] | eidolon: | okay, i'm off to Tweeter and/or Circuit City to pick up a functional S-Video <-> RCA adapter that does color |
| [22:53:00] | eidolon: | lets see if i can stump them. 8) |
| [22:54:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, it's an mp3 encoder |
| [22:54:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [22:54:00] | Kleptophobiac: | eidolon – don't bother |
| [22:54:00] | amorphix: | is that all it does? |
| [22:54:00] | Scuzzle: | 'L'ame 'A'int a 'M'p3 'E'ncoder? ;) |
| [22:54:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/svideo2cvideo.html |
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| [22:55:00] | eidolon: | Kleptophobiac: cept i wannit NOW! |
| [22:55:00] | ** eidolon stomps feet. ** | |
| [22:55:00] | eidolon: | oh |
| [22:55:00] | ** eidolon reads. ** | |
| [22:55:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you could throw that together faster than a trip to CC |
| [22:55:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I did |
| [22:55:00] | Kleptophobiac: | works great |
| [22:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | only one direction though |
| [22:56:00] | eidolon: | well, i'd need the capacitor... |
| [22:56:00] | eidolon: | yah, 1 dir is okay. |
| [22:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | holy crap, you've GOT to have some caps laying around |
| [22:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | every geek should have a random parts bin |
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| [22:56:00] | eidolon: | and iu'm short on s-video hardware,so i'd need to get hte male conector. |
| [22:56:00] | eidolon: | heh. |
| [22:56:00] | eidolon: | i'm actually a software geek, not a hardware one :) |
| [22:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | tsk, everyone should be both |
| [22:56:00] | eidolon: | i rarely build crap cept on the 'very top end' |
| [22:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I built my own computer! |
| [22:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://mstcforum.com/uploads/images/8051-microcomp-topside.jpg |
| [22:57:00] | eidolon: | and, interestingly enough, the '4 – Visualize' bit in MythMusic -works- on the nvidia external configuration. (it locked up mfe whtn on the 21" monitor) |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | spiffy. does it run mythtv? ;) |
| [22:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | nope, only 14 MHz |
| [22:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and here's what it looks like underneath |
| [22:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | http://mstcforum.com/uploads/images/8051-micr . . . ttomside.jpg |
| [22:57:00] | eidolon: | ive built discrete component computers before :) |
| [22:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mmm, soldering good |
| [22:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | PCB's are for sissies |
| [22:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :p |
| [22:57:00] | eidolon: | *grin* |
| [22:58:00] | eidolon: | okay anyway – i need to go out to get lunch anyway. but good pointers, thanks. |
| [22:58:00] | eidolon: | er |
| [22:58:00] | eidolon: | dinner |
| [22:58:00] | eidolon: | that. |
| [22:58:00] | eidolon: | bye :) |
| [22:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | toodles |
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| [23:15:00] | hadees: | do be do be doo |
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| [23:16:00] | rsdvd: | Hi – Is there any Uk people in here tonight who have Sky working with Mythtv? |
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| [23:17:00] | amorphix: | hi |
| [23:18:00] | rsdvd: | Hiya Amorphix.....remember me ? |
| [23:18:00] | engie: | Hi. I'm trying to install mythweb on ubuntu breezy but it complains that it can't find mysql_connect – I find this a little odd as I have php, mysql and all related packages – even phpmyadmin's fine! Any idea how I can get this to work? |
| [23:18:00] | amorphix: | rsdvd: yeah, hiya..how goes it? |
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| [23:18:00] | rsdvd: | Not bad......at least it would be if I could work out how to get Sky working through Myth |
| [23:19:00] | amorphix: | i just decided to have a go at setting up mythtv myself tonight |
| [23:19:00] | rsdvd: | I have seen you in here a few times |
| [23:19:00] | amorphix: | yeah I've been trying to find out info and stuff about hardware |
| [23:19:00] | rsdvd: | I don't suppose you have Sky TV do you> |
| [23:20:00] | amorphix: | nah I have cable |
| [23:20:00] | amorphix: | I saw some sky boxes with DVR on eBay going cheap earlier |
| [23:20:00] | rsdvd: | it will be the same problem.......you will need to get the STB to change channels |
| [23:21:00] | amorphix: | yeah thats gonna be a prob, my STB has an IR blaster connection but I dont have one |
| [23:21:00] | rsdvd: | I have a device for my Sky Box......i just need some kind soul in here to quickly talk me though how to setup the channels etc |
| [23:21:00] | amorphix: | my requirements for Mythtv are fairly limited tho so I may cope without channel changing |
| [23:22:00] | amorphix: | its a bit quiet tonight |
| [23:23:00] | rsdvd: | :-) it is a Saturday night......most people are out enjoying themselves |
| [23:23:00] | amorphix: | yeah i guess so |
| [23:24:00] | amorphix: | I thought you had started Mythtv a while ago |
| [23:24:00] | amorphix: | did you not get round to it? |
| [23:24:00] | rsdvd: | I did........just never got round to finishing it (sounds like most my projects) |
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| [23:25:00] | amorphix: | ahh well it does seems quite complicated |
| [23:25:00] | rsdvd: | Yeah......but all good things are |
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| [23:41:00] | CyberKnet: | if anyone here has any insight on using css and divs/spans for constructing site layout and feels like sharing, let me know =) |
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| [23:43:00] | CyberKnet: | trying to remove most of the tables from my site to better facilitate theming/skinning (man do I ever hate the term "skinning") |
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| [23:46:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: I've been working on my boiler |
| [23:48:00] | Juski: | and catching up on 'american dad; ;) |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | Hiya Juski |
| [23:49:00] | Juski: | hiya rsdvd |
| [23:49:00] | rsdvd: | I ordered what I think I need from RS...shoudl be here on Monday |
| [23:49:00] | Juski: | are RS open on Sundays? I think I need a new temperature limit switch |
| [23:51:00] | rsdvd: | looking at the catalogs....cant tell |
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| [23:52:00] | Juski: | arse.. they're not |
| [23:52:00] | rsdvd: | :-( you can place the order on-line and they will order on tuesday |
| [23:52:00] | Juski: | ah well at least the heating is still working |
| [23:53:00] | rsdvd: | you need the heating this time of year |
| [23:53:00] | Juski: | really? lol |
| [23:53:00] | rsdvd: | LOL |
| [23:53:00] | Juski: | yes, even in 'sunny manchester' |
| [23:54:00] | rsdvd: | is that where you are? |
| [23:54:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [23:54:00] | rsdvd: | where abouts....i was born in Manchester |
| [23:54:00] | Juski: | near chadderton |
| [23:54:00] | rsdvd: | :-) know it well |
| [23:54:00] | Juski: | I'm not from here – moved down here in 1988 |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | used to live in the West end of Ashton near the courts (behind The Witchwood pub) – proper hell-hole |
| [23:55:00] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [23:55:00] | rsdvd: | I used to live in Salford |
| [23:55:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [23:56:00] | Juski: | so how's the myth work going? |
| [23:56:00] | rsdvd: | I am workign on my second Backend server........just need to work out how to integrate Sky |
| [23:57:00] | rsdvd: | I was hoping there was a felpful member here who could help me set it up |
| [23:57:00] | Juski: | there's a lirc script you need to run – you assign that to 'use external command to change channel' |
| [23:57:00] | Juski: | but that's all I know |
| [23:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I think I might want an IDE / code browser in order to start hacking around myth – any recommendations? |
| [23:58:00] | rsdvd: | My connection is not LIRC....becuase it don;t use IR...... |
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| [23:59:00] | poonj: | hey guys...I don't know what happened |
| [23:59:00] | poonj: | but my mythweb doesn't work anymore |
| [23:59:00] | poonj: | I keep getting Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 54 |
| [23:59:00] | poonj: | I have the package php4-mysql installed |
| [23:59:00] | dev-: | recompile php recently? |
| [23:59:00] | poonj: | I did an upgrade |
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