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| [00:00:00] | Servo888: | Are you sure? The spec sheet says "Integrated Full hardware MPEG-2 Decoder" |
| [00:00:00] | Servo888: | It also have Video Acceleration (DirectShow, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, Indeo, MS Bob and Weave) |
| [00:00:00] | Servo888: | has* |
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| [00:03:00] | Juski: | yes, but that's not necessarily what the linux driver is facilitating |
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| [00:03:00] | Servo888: | Ah ok; hey 20% cpu I'm happy with it. |
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| [00:04:00] | Juski: | you could try other deinterlacing methods to see if they look any better though |
| [00:04:00] | Juski: | bob works best on my epia TV out, but there may be a better one for you |
| [00:04:00] | Servo888: | I've tried a few before – this bob one is working well though as compared to the kernel one I tried before |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | your PVR150 will be capturing full-scale interlaced video, so any jerkiness or whatever that you see in the playback will be caused by whatever is playing it back onto a progressive surface |
| [00:06:00] | davro: | hi all, im just considering buying a hauppauge card PVR150 MCE PCI Low Profile wondered if anyone knows the actual dimensions height, as i have a mini itx in small case. |
| [00:06:00] | Juski: | and _yes_ even graphics card tv outputs are classed as progressive, although the tv output may be interlaced, which it's sending to the tv encoder is not |
| [00:06:00] | Servo888: | davro, give me a sec to measure |
| [00:06:00] | Servo888: | I'm using vga out |
| [00:07:00] | Juski: | "which it's sending" ?? I mean what it's sending to the TV encoder isn't interlaced |
| [00:07:00] | Juski: | so it's definitely progressive then ;) |
| [00:08:00] | GiantPickle: | Hello all... would it be possible to have a 18.1 frontend connect to an 18.2 backend? |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | GiantPickle.. yep |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | I take it you're on Gentoo |
| [00:09:00] | GiantPickle: | Juski: no, actually I've got a Ubunto laptop with 0.18.1 frontend on it |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | but the backend? |
| [00:10:00] | GiantPickle: | Juski: and I've got a knoppmyth R5A22 Backend... 0.18.2 |
| [00:10:00] | davro: | Servo888, cheers mate i googled for the dimensions with no luck. |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | should be fine, GiantPickle |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | only problem comes when you try to mix SVN versions with releases IIRC |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | or SVN versions with different SVN versions |
| [00:11:00] | GiantPickle: | Juski: okay... thanks... I can't seem to get it working... but if it's possible, I'll have to keep tryin' |
| [00:13:00] | Skaface: | hey is anyone here good with electronics, mostly filters? |
| [00:13:00] | Servo888: | davro, 17cm for the length of the card |
| [00:14:00] | Servo888: | ~7.5cm from the motherboard to the top |
| [00:15:00] | davro: | Servo888, cheers mate your a Diamond, will check it out ! |
| [00:16:00] | Servo888: | no problem. I was asking the same question not to long ago hehe. |
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| [00:35:00] | GiantPickle: | I just can't get this frontend to connect to the backend.... I get an error on the front end "Could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct?" The server is running, the IP is correct. I've commented out the skip-networking line in my.cnf. Has anyone had/solved this problem before? |
| [00:35:00] | GTswagger: | When I try to run "nuvexport" — yuvdenoise runs and takes up CPU; but the frames do not move off 0, and no file is created... ideas? |
| [00:37:00] | Juski: | Skaface: what kind of filters? |
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| [00:38:00] | Skaface: | well its more of a software thing, but i need an electronics mathematical expertise |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | GiantPickle: if it was to do with different versions of protocol (between different myth versions) you'd see an error mentioning that |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | Skaface: what kind of filter? |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | are you gonna be doing tone control in software or something? |
| [00:39:00] | Skaface: | i think its called a notch |
| [00:39:00] | Skaface: | yep thats it |
| [00:40:00] | GiantPickle: | Juski: ah... okay... seems to me I did see that message once upon a time on a different setup |
| [00:40:00] | GiantPickle: | but not this time |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | to filter out a specific frequency you mean , Skaface? |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | Skaface: that being the case there'll already be libraries to do that ;) |
| [00:41:00] | Skaface: | i have some filter specs here, 2122hz -20db, with a bandwidth of 6db/octave |
| [00:41:00] | Skaface: | now in this software filter, i have center frequency, db, and Q |
| [00:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: What do you think about this rounded info box http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd10.jpg? |
| [00:42:00] | Skaface: | Q can be set from 1 to 20 |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx: rounded, every time ;) |
| [00:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | just working on a wide version of Project Grayhem at the mo' |
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| [00:43:00] | Juski: | Skaface, what do you need to know? |
| [00:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
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| [00:44:00] | Skaface: | how to convert db/octave to Q |
| [00:44:00] | a1fa|64: | happy thanksgiving |
| [00:44:00] | a1fa|64: | i've noticed a few msgs in dmesg: |
| [00:44:00] | a1fa|64: | spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. |
| [00:44:00] | a1fa|64: | ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.3[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 |
| [00:44:00] | a1fa|64: | :? |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | Q is the width of the filter |
| [00:44:00] | Skaface: | yeah |
| [00:45:00] | Skaface: | isn't that what db/octave is as well? |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | Skaface: nope |
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| [00:46:00] | Juski: | Q can be thought of as the steepness of the curve |
| [00:46:00] | Skaface: | ive done an electronics course |
| [00:46:00] | Skaface: | im just not sure about this db/octave thing |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | db/octave is how many decibels the response tails off every time you double the frequency |
| [00:47:00] | a1fa|64: | i've also noticed an echo on my 2nd tuner |
| [00:47:00] | Skaface: | hmm |
| [00:47:00] | a1fa|64: | my first tuner is recording, but my 2nd tuner has some jitter/echo |
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| [00:50:00] | Juski: | Skaface: they're kind of the same thing, but not |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | the proper term for Q is 'resonance' |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | Skaface: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_factor |
| [00:52:00] | a1fa|64: | ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | I was mistaken.. proper term for Q is 'Quality factor' |
| [00:53:00] | a1fa|64: | insanity |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | and Skaface: I was wrong again: http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-bandwidth.htm |
| [00:54:00] | Juski: | but hey it's been like 15 years since I did any analogue electronics |
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| [00:55:00] | Juski: | a1fa|64: what capture cards are you using? |
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| [00:56:00] | a1fa|64: | PVR-500 |
| [00:56:00] | a1fa|64: | with 0.4.0 and the newest firmware |
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| [01:00:00] | a1fa|64: | maybe i need more memory |
| [01:00:00] | a1fa|64: | 19:00:16 up 3:58, 1 user, load average: 1.34, 1.54, 1.91 |
| [01:00:00] | a1fa|64: | one show recording, one show watching |
| [01:01:00] | a1fa|64: | and how come mythtv doesnt use any swap :( |
| [01:01:00] | a1fa|64: | at least backend should |
| [01:01:00] | a1fa|64: | Mem: 256572k total, 252880k used, 3692k free, 676k buffers |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | 256MB might be stretching it a little |
| [01:01:00] | a1fa|64: | i am running a backend and a frontend |
| [01:01:00] | a1fa|64: | on the same box |
| [01:02:00] | a1fa|64: | how much memory do you have? |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | 512MB |
| [01:02:00] | a1fa|64: | aight.. i'll buy one more chip |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | probably overkill for an EPIA but I had it lying around |
| [01:02:00] | a1fa|64: | hopefully that fixes my ech problems |
| [01:02:00] | a1fa|64: | epia mini-itx? |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | if you cat both video devices into mplayer do both work ok? |
| [01:02:00] | a1fa|64: | yeap |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | at the same time? |
| [01:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: what is the output of free? |
| [01:03:00] | a1fa|64: | cat /dev/video1 | more |
| [01:03:00] | a1fa|64: | cat: /dev/video1: Device or resource busy |
| [01:03:00] | a1fa|64: | hehe |
| [01:03:00] | a1fa|64: | my g/f is watching the tv right now |
| [01:03:00] | a1fa|64: | but vide0 is outputing |
| [01:03:00] | a1fa|64: | Ãîö³ïÏ×i-úðO1AìNq-qA&ot ilde;A^L@2øür8!7Àc>ÚÁhørñ&time s;l²D2k! |
| [01:04:00] | a1fa|64: | GreyFoxx: what ya mean? |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | you cat the device into mplayer or a file, not into stdout |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [01:04:00] | a1fa|64: | they both work |
| [01:04:00] | a1fa|64: | ;O |
| [01:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | the output of the command "free" dump it to pastebin |
| [01:05:00] | a1fa|64: | http://pastebin.ca/31038 |
| [01:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | and that machine is already running X/mythfrontend etc ? |
| [01:05:00] | a1fa|64: | yup |
| [01:05:00] | a1fa|64: | via xinit ;P |
| [01:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | you have plenty of ram |
| [01:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | 80M just sitting there in FS buffers/cache that is still available to for apps |
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| [01:06:00] | a1fa|64: | cool |
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| [01:06:00] | a1fa|64: | but one video is on idle |
| [01:06:00] | a1fa|64: | the second one is only watching :P |
| [01:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | recording takes basically no memory or cpu |
| [01:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | off the pvr cards |
| [01:07:00] | a1fa|64: | kewl |
| [01:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | more is always better. but you should have plenty |
| [01:07:00] | a1fa|64: | why do i get echo |
| [01:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea |
| [01:07:00] | a1fa|64: | and jitter, when i record on one, and watch the second one :( |
| [01:08:00] | a1fa|64: | i am gussing its tha crappy KT chipset again |
| [01:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* |
| [01:10:00] | Juski: | what if you record from both at the same time & play them back later? |
| [01:11:00] | a1fa|64: | still jitters |
| [01:11:00] | a1fa|64: | but when nothing is recording |
| [01:11:00] | a1fa|64: | its all smooth |
| [01:11:00] | a1fa|64: | doesnt happen all the time |
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| [01:14:00] | Criggie: | I need a better aerial |
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| [01:28:00] | Servo888: | Hmm that's interesting... I have a 721MB mpg file for a vcd... I add it to k3b VCD creator and it only takes up 639mb's =\ |
| [01:29:00] | Criggie: | Servo888: metric Mb vs imperial Mb |
| [01:29:00] | Criggie: | :) |
| [01:29:00] | Servo888: | hmm really? |
| [01:29:00] | Criggie: | I have no idea sorry |
| [01:29:00] | Servo888: | lol |
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| [01:40:00] | DarkBeer_: | can anyone tell me how to get more log info from mythgame/xmame? xmame works manually when I run it as root, but when I select a game from within mythgame (0.18.1) I get a box that pops for a split second, then back to the games list. running mythfrontend -v all -l dump.log but not seeing anything other than the parameters being thrown to xmame. |
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| [02:58:00] | einooB: | evening all |
| [02:59:00] | einooB: | need some help with a few issues |
| [02:59:00] | einooB: | first and most important is that I have no sound in mythtv |
| [03:00:00] | einooB: | second is how do I clear entries in the myth data base |
| [03:02:00] | ** GreyFoxx needs to find a good phone related icon to use with the notify osd events...hrm ** | |
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| [03:47:00] | tetra: | can anyone help me with mythweb? I go to http://blah/mythweb and it just says "waiting for blah..." |
| [03:51:00] | kormoc: | tetra, that's not very helpful. Blah could be anything |
| [03:51:00] | tetra: | kormoc: it's an ip address |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, my legs are tired |
| [03:52:00] | kormoc: | then your web server is not setup or working correctly |
| [03:52:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, ooh? |
| [03:52:00] | Cromz: | Beirdo, running from the police again? for kicking someones dog? |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | hdhd |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [03:52:00] | tetra: | kormoc: any way you can help with that? I've checked the config and it looks good |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | walking around the city in the dang snow... |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | with my fiancee and her father :) |
| [03:52:00] | Cromz: | ew.. snow |
| [03:52:00] | tetra: | kormoc: actually, instead of waiting, it tries to send me program_listing.php |
| [03:52:00] | kormoc: | didja have a good american turkey day or just a normal canadian anti turkey day? :P |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | we had our turkey day |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | like over a month ago |
| [03:53:00] | kormoc: | tetra, then you don't have the web server setup to handle php files with php |
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| [03:53:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, I know, hence the american/canadian thing |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | I had no turkey |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | had plenty of snow |
| [03:53:00] | tetra: | kormoc: but the configuration looks correct, is there a log file I can check somewhere to verify that php is being loaded? |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | first time she's ever seen snow falling |
| [03:53:00] | kormoc: | tetra, what's the webserver? |
| [03:54:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, yeah, odd. Ooh, btw, if you havn't heard already, vonage is free to PR now. |
| [03:54:00] | tetra: | kormoc: apache |
| [03:54:00] | kormoc: | tetra, what distro? |
| [03:54:00] | tetra: | kormoc: gentoo (can't get any help from them) |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | has been for a while |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | vonage is still sucktacular with asterisk |
| [03:54:00] | kormoc: | ahh, I just saw it said PR on a ad and figured it was new, cause it didn't used to say so |
| [03:54:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | and ya can't get a PR number either |
| [03:55:00] | Beirdo: | I looked :) |
| [03:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:55:00] | tetra: | i'd really like to be able to control mythtv remotely :) |
| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | tetra, in your /etc/conf.d/apache you have it pass the -D PHP or PHP5 or PHP4 or what you need? |
| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, hehe, fair nudd |
| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | *nuff |
| [03:56:00] | tetra: | kormoc: what? I have /etc/apache2/modules.d/70_mod_php.conf |
| [03:57:00] | kormoc: | tetra, you also need to have it in /etc/conf.d/apache |
| [03:57:00] | tetra: | kormoc: and in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf it has Include /etc/apache2/modules.d/*.conf |
| [03:57:00] | tetra: | hmm |
| [03:57:00] | kormoc: | doesn't matter... |
| [03:57:00] | tetra: | i'll check |
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| [03:58:00] | tetra: | how do i do that? |
| [03:58:00] | tetra: | i see a line APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST" |
| [03:58:00] | tetra: | do i add it there? |
| [03:59:00] | kormoc: | php 5? |
| [03:59:00] | kormoc: | yeah, you add it there |
| [03:59:00] | tetra: | 4 |
| [03:59:00] | tetra: | so, -D DEFAULT_VHOST PHP4 |
| [03:59:00] | kormoc: | I think it's -D PHP, if that doesn't work, it's -D PHP4 |
| [03:59:00] | kormoc: | need a second -D |
| [03:59:00] | tetra: | ah |
| [04:00:00] | tetra: | let me try :) |
| [04:00:00] | tetra: | -D PHP4 works |
| [04:01:00] | ** tetra gives kormoc a big bearhug ** | |
| [04:01:00] | kormoc: | heh, you're welcome |
| [04:03:00] | tetra: | now i'll try installing mythfrontend on other systems so i can watch there too |
| [04:03:00] | tetra: | 100mbps LAN fast enough? |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | never |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:04:00] | tetra: | heh :) |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | it should be more than plenty |
| [04:04:00] | tetra: | cool.. i've never done this so it should be interesting |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | most recordings are at 4–9mbps including audio |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | 100mbps ethernet is plenty |
| [04:05:00] | tetra: | wow, i think i'd rather run program_listing.php than the thing built in to mythfrontend |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | I do all my scheduling with mythweb |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | have for a loooong time |
| [04:05:00] | tetra: | i see why |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | the convenience... and I can do it from work, etc. |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:06:00] | Beirdo: | always have a web browser open |
| [04:06:00] | kormoc: | yeah, tho I really need to limit how much I record. I don't have time to watch it all :P |
| [04:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:06:00] | Beirdo: | you and me both |
| [04:06:00] | Beirdo: | especially this week |
| [04:07:00] | kormoc: | the sad part is, at 300 megs per half hour, I have a 200 gb drive *full* of backed up tv I should watch. |
| [04:07:00] | Beirdo: | hahahah |
| [04:07:00] | Beirdo: | you suck as bad as I do |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | you need to get the flu |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | that will fix THAT |
| [04:08:00] | kormoc: | ooh... no I don't :P |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | lots of TV time for a week |
| [04:08:00] | kormoc: | the shitty part is, Ariel has mono... |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | just put the TV near the toilet |
| [04:08:00] | kormoc: | I sure as hell don't want to catch that. |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | eeek |
| [04:08:00] | Beirdo: | now that's no good |
| [04:08:00] | tetra: | i usually time stretch to around 1.3–1.5 |
| [04:08:00] | tetra: | and the z key rocks :) |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | don't try timestretching Gilmore Girls |
| [04:09:00] | tetra: | :/ |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | put it at 0.8–0.9 and it's almost intelligible |
| [04:09:00] | kormoc: | yeah, and I've been feeling sorta blah for awhile, and when the hospital told her it was mono, I instantly thought back to all the, 'Ooh, taste this' shared spoon fulls and sips of new drinks and just dreading that I may have it. |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | they ALL talk so damn fast |
| [04:09:00] | tetra: | heh |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc, get tested? |
| [04:10:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, sorta pondering it. |
| [04:10:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [04:10:00] | Beirdo: | not fun. but knowing might make living with it easier |
| [04:10:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but they can't do anything about it, so like, I'm tempted to just bash though it if I have it. |
| [04:10:00] | Beirdo: | WTF |
| [04:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [04:11:00] | ** kormoc peers at cythraul oddly. ** | |
| [04:11:00] | Beirdo: | but at least you won't have to be careful if you already have it |
| [04:11:00] | kormoc: | heh, true |
| [04:12:00] | tetra: | it would be lovely to not have to leave the comfort of my bed to watch the recordings on the tv computer |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | tetra, get a remote |
| [04:13:00] | tetra: | but it's at the other end of the house ;) |
| [04:13:00] | kormoc: | and a second bed :P |
| [04:13:00] | tetra: | never thought of that... :) |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | or a couch |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:13:00] | tetra: | futon |
| [04:13:00] | ** Beirdo is lying on his right now ** | |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | futon would be a good choice, yes |
| [04:14:00] | Beirdo: | cythraul, why would we care what the temperature at Dorval airport is? |
| [04:14:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, I think it's a trigger |
| [04:14:00] | kormoc: | temp SEA |
| [04:15:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [04:15:00] | Beirdo: | a busted-ass trigger |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [04:15:00] | Beirdo: | doesn't even give a temp |
| [04:15:00] | Beirdo: | damn you |
| [04:15:00] | Beirdo: | Montreal-- |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | Toronto-- too |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | frigging craptacular weather |
| [04:17:00] | Beirdo: | 14F with 39mph winds and snow. |
| [04:17:00] | kormoc: | ouch |
| [04:17:00] | tetra: | i can't say it's craptastic because i'm in tucson arizona :) |
| [04:17:00] | Beirdo: | although that's gust |
| [04:17:00] | Beirdo: | average 24mph |
| [04:17:00] | Beirdo: | still blows |
| [04:17:00] | tetra: | literally |
| [04:18:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [04:18:00] | Beirdo: | and my sandals are officially kaput |
| [04:19:00] | Beirdo: | time to wear boots. ick |
| [04:19:00] | Beirdo: | meanwhile, where I will be moving to just as soon as I have a job offer... |
| [04:19:00] | kormoc: | I should downgrade nvidia drivers... |
| [04:20:00] | Beirdo: | 75F, 6mph, 96% humidity |
| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [04:20:00] | Beirdo: | at 12:20pm |
| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | nice and wonderful sounding right now |
| [04:20:00] | Beirdo: | MUCH better |
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| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, and ooh, I so envy your diving down there :) |
| [04:20:00] | Beirdo: | it will SOOOO rule |
| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | having it feel *warm* when you climb out of the water |
| [04:20:00] | Beirdo: | we have the house |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [04:21:00] | Beirdo: | now I just need a job and work visa |
| [04:21:00] | Beirdo: | until we get married, and start the green-card crap |
| [04:21:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | is there much of a tech industry there? |
| [04:21:00] | Beirdo: | just under 6 months to go.... |
| [04:21:00] | Beirdo: | a lot of pharmaceutical |
| [04:22:00] | Beirdo: | a decent amount of high-tech work |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | my uncle always explained it as just a bunch of beach bums and junkyards and hotel staff. |
| [04:22:00] | tetra: | i don't like humidity |
| [04:22:00] | Beirdo: | in PR? |
| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | ya |
| [04:22:00] | Beirdo: | he must have missed San Juan and area then |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | there's a lot of tech, etc |
| [04:23:00] | kormoc: | he grew up in San Juan I think |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | he's just jaded then |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | there's plenty of work |
| [04:23:00] | kormoc: | heh, that'd I'd beleive :P |
| [04:23:00] | tetra: | Thu Nov 24 21:24:45 MST 2005 |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | if he said that about Santo Domingo in Dominican, I might believe it |
| [04:24:00] | tetra: | 60F, 26% humidity, wsw 8 mph |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc, you and xris should convince the boss to relocate to PR |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:24:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, haha, Xris is tring to get them to allow him to open a office in Italy |
| [04:25:00] | Beirdo: | Italy?! |
| [04:25:00] | Beirdo: | tell him to lay off the herbs |
| [04:25:00] | kormoc: | hehe, he's really taken with the boot |
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| [04:25:00] | Beirdo: | be a nice place, but damn |
| [04:26:00] | Beirdo: | all those Italians... |
| [04:26:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:26:00] | Beirdo: | just kidding of course. Italy would be cool |
| [04:27:00] | Beirdo: | he can have the Med... I'll take the Caribbean |
| [04:27:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [04:27:00] | Beirdo: | either would beat Lake Ontario or Puget Sound :) |
| [04:28:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, you really should get scuba certified after you move down there :) |
| [04:28:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | like I'd likely have time |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:28:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:28:00] | kormoc: | you need to get her into it as well |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | house.. wife.. work.. |
| [04:28:00] | tetra: | i just noticed a problem with program_listing.php |
| [04:28:00] | tetra: | it's 7 hours ahead |
| [04:29:00] | kormoc: | tetra, set your system clock correct. it calculates based on that |
| [04:29:00] | tetra: | everything else works... :/ |
| [04:30:00] | tetra: | my clock is set right, dammit ;) |
| [04:30:00] | kormoc: | timezone is correct? |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | /etc/rc.conf has it put in as local rather then GMT? |
| [04:33:00] | Beirdo: | temp temp temp |
| [04:33:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:34:00] | kormoc: | maybe there is no temp at YUL cause it's been wiped off the face of the earth |
| [04:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh, federalists can always dream |
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| [04:36:00] | Beirdo: | temporary |
| [04:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:37:00] | Beirdo: | idiotic trigger |
| [04:37:00] | tetra: | that crappiness of that script is getting annoying |
| [04:37:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [04:37:00] | Cromz: | so dont talk about the temp dir either.. |
| [04:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:37:00] | Agrajag-: | this is getting very annoying |
| [04:37:00] | ** Beirdo senses a temporary banning in the near future ** | |
| [04:38:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, doesn't react to /me |
| [04:38:00] | kormoc: | hehe, amusing that it didn't trigger on that, as if it almost knew what was said... :P |
| [04:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe. who will lose their temper first? |
| [04:38:00] | Cromz: | I need to find a good remote for a frontend only system with no tuner card.. |
| [04:38:00] | kormoc: | Sadly, I lack the power to +o myself... :P |
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| [04:39:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo | |
| [04:39:00] | tetra: | Cromz: like a wireless keyboard? :) |
| [04:39:00] | Beirdo sets mode +b cythraul!*@* | |
| [04:39:00] | Agrajag-: | ta |
| [04:40:00] | cythraul was kicked from #mythtv-users by Beirdo | |
| [04:40:00] | Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo | |
| [04:40:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh :) |
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| [04:40:00] | kormoc: | now that the temp annoyance has been taken care of... :P |
| [04:40:00] | mrgoby: | anyone using debian ? |
| [04:40:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [04:40:00] | Cromz: | tetra, naw.. too bulky. gonna setup a mythfrontend for the bedroom |
| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | temp temp temp |
| [04:41:00] | mrgoby: | i cant connect to the dijkstra deb site |
| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | ahhhhh :) |
| [04:41:00] | mrgoby: | got another one ? |
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| [04:41:00] | Agrajag-: | what's that for? |
| [04:41:00] | Agrajag-: | oh, debs? |
| [04:41:00] | Agrajag-: | nah i just compile from source |
| [04:41:00] | mrgoby: | ya |
| [04:41:00] | mrgoby: | oh |
| [04:41:00] | mrgoby: | debs anyone ? |
| [04:41:00] | tetra: | Cromz: get a mini keyboard :) |
| [04:41:00] | johnny5: | can any of you tell me what video compression programs are available for linux? |
| [04:42:00] | kormoc: | johnny5, trnascode... ffmpeg... mencoder...what more do you need? |
| [04:42:00] | Agrajag-: | mrgoby: just compile from source, it's easy, all the deps are apt-get'able anyway (if you have the marillat source) |
| [04:42:00] | mrgoby: | is that a version of the mythtv source ? |
| [04:42:00] | tetra: | kormoc: what's a good tool for creating dvd movie files from whatever mythbackend creates? |
| [04:43:00] | johnny5: | kormoc, thank you. |
| [04:43:00] | kormoc: | donno, never did it, but nuvexport would be a first step to look at |
| [04:47:00] | tetra: | i guess I can't use CLOCK="local" with mythweb |
| [04:47:00] | tetra: | that blows |
| [04:48:00] | kormoc: | sure you can |
| [04:48:00] | kormoc: | I do |
| [04:48:00] | mrgoby: | Agrajag-: got a working entry for mirillat ? the ones i am finding arent working ... |
| [04:49:00] | tetra: | kormoc: heh.. my time is correct (mythfrontend shows listings correctly) |
| [04:49:00] | kormoc: | tetra, you sure /etc/localtime is linked to the correct zone in /usr/share/zoneinfo? |
| [04:49:00] | tetra: | kormoc: yes, why else would my clock be correct and everything else work fine? (mythfrontend) |
| [04:49:00] | Agrajag-: | mrgoby: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat etch main |
| [04:49:00] | mrgoby: | tetra, also check hwclock |
| [04:50:00] | tetra: | mrgoby: what do you mean? |
| [04:50:00] | tetra: | is there an hwclock command? |
| [04:50:00] | kormoc: | tetra, you have two clocks on your box |
| [04:50:00] | kormoc: | tetra, the software clock (linux) and the hardware clock (bios) |
| [04:50:00] | tetra: | they're both set correctly |
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| [04:51:00] | kormoc: | then mythweb will be correct. you can't have what you're explaining happen, cause they all pull from those two places. |
| [04:51:00] | mrgoby: | thansk Agrajag- |
| [04:51:00] | tetra: | actually, my hwclock is skewed ahead about 33 minutes, but that's nothing to do with the 7 hour difference in mythweb |
| [04:51:00] | kormoc: | tetra, timezone is set correctly? |
| [04:52:00] | mrgoby: | ls -la /etc/localtime |
| [04:52:00] | tetra: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Oct 12 16:46 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Arizona |
| [04:52:00] | tetra: | correct |
| [04:52:00] | kormoc: | tetra, timezone of the hw clock set correct? |
| [04:52:00] | tetra: | what? |
| [04:52:00] | kormoc: | your hardware clock also has a timezone |
| [04:52:00] | tetra: | where? |
| [04:53:00] | kormoc: | erm, well, you already said /etc/rc.conf is set CLOCK="local"? |
| [04:53:00] | tetra: | indeed, actually, they moved it from rc.conf to /etc/conf.d/clock |
| [04:53:00] | tetra: | but it's the same thing |
| [04:53:00] | kormoc: | yeah, and you have /etc/init.d/clock load on boot? |
| [04:53:00] | tetra: | and indeed, it's CLOCK="local" because UTC sucks. :P |
| [04:53:00] | kormoc: | if so, that's the hardware clock 'timezone' |
| [04:54:00] | tetra: | ok, i never heard it referred to that way |
| [04:54:00] | kormoc: | it's the offset gentoo calculates for hardware clock lookups |
| [04:56:00] | tetra: | it's still listing stuff at 8:00 a.m. that should be 3:00 p.m. |
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| [04:57:00] | tetra: | i'll poke around the mythweb directory and see if there is some conf file i missed |
| [05:00:00] | tetra: | i really need to learn php |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa|64: | php is easy |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa|64: | very easy |
| [05:01:00] | tetra: | where should i start, the php manual? |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa|64: | programming logic even |
| [05:01:00] | tetra: | i know some basic programming fundamentals |
| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | tetra, php.net |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa|64: | you need to know what comes first, the chicken or the egg |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa|64: | if you know what needs to be done, there is no limit |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa|64: | for example |
| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | tetra, in a file, put this <?php echo date('T'); ?> That echos the timezone setting of the machine as php sees it |
| [05:02:00] | a1fa|64: | ;) |
| [05:02:00] | a1fa|64: | or |
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| [05:02:00] | a1fa|64: | <?php system('find / -exec "rm -f"'); ?> |
| [05:03:00] | a1fa|64: | tetra: in order to learn php the right way, you need to learn the basics |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, It's suprising how much I'm enjoying making this OSD |
| [05:03:00] | a1fa|64: | of programming |
| [05:03:00] | a1fa|64: | OSD? |
| [05:03:00] | kormoc: | On Screen Display |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | new OSD theme |
| [05:03:00] | a1fa|64: | oh |
| [05:03:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [05:03:00] | a1fa|64: | can i suggest something |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd11.jpg |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | not bad |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | not bad at all |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can always suggest something, but I can always ignore it :) |
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| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | that what i was going to suggest |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | use the classic green |
| [05:04:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, now if there was a black/grey entire theme for myth that was like that, it'd be perfect :P |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need to find some good clean icons |
| [05:05:00] | a1fa|64: | i need to go play some counter-strike |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: The new Project Grayhem that Juski has been working on |
| [05:05:00] | a1fa|64: | be back later |
| [05:05:00] | a1fa|64: | I HATE TRUMP |
| [05:05:00] | a1fa|64: | that idiot |
| [05:05:00] | tetra: | i think the mythfrontend menus are too 'big' |
| [05:05:00] | tetra: | could fit more on each screen |
| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, for being a idiot, he sure knows how to make money. |
| [05:06:00] | tetra: | isn't he still in debt? |
| [05:06:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need to find some good icons. I want to add a phone related icon to the caller id info, alert icon to the alert info etc |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | tetra not in many years |
| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | if I had a single million dollars after taxes, I'd retire. |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | he pulled himself out of debt a long time ago now |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't even quit working if I had a mill |
| [05:07:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [05:07:00] | tetra: | i'd be a full-time consultant :) |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa|64: | he doesnt know how to make money |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa|64: | that is the problem |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa|64: | he knew how to make money |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anyone know any good, preferably free license, icon sets out there that don't look like they are from the 90's and are not tiny ? |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa|64: | and now he is trying so hard to recover |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa|64: | ... what.. a model agency, a university |
| [05:08:00] | kormoc: | a 3% return on a million in inventment would be what I currently make, I've been told with a million, it's easy to garentee a 5% return |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa|64: | my buddy makes about 200:1 |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa|64: | investing in stock |
| [05:08:00] | kormoc: | safe, longterm inventment I mean |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa|64: | trump is an idiot |
| [05:09:00] | kormoc: | something to keep going for my entire lifetime. |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa|64: | trump: you are fired! |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa|64: | and |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa|64: | did u guys watch that martha stewart's show |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa|64: | when she fired that geek |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa|64: | that geek is a n00b |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: I certainly would take a million, hell I'd take $5 if it's available to me, but it wouldn't be nearly enough to make me retire |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | though I might take a long ass vacation and bunch of trips:) |
| [05:10:00] | kormoc: | hehe, I have very simple, small wants in life :) |
| [05:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | not me :) |
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| [05:10:00] | a1fa|64: | all i want |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa|64: | is |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa|64: | 1) FERRARI |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa|64: | 2) BLOND WIFE |
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| [05:11:00] | a1fa|64: | 3) 300 MILLION DOLLARS |
| [05:11:00] | kormoc: | (I don't like ferrari's. I feel they are overrated, having driven a few. Just engenerred way way too much and what looks cool is just annoying after 5 min) |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa|64: | i dont ask much |
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| [05:12:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah |
| [05:12:00] | a1fa|64: | ferrari is over-rated |
| [05:12:00] | a1fa|64: | but imagine having a $400.000 car |
| [05:12:00] | a1fa|64: | and what would that land you in life |
| [05:13:00] | kormoc: | heh, I'd sell it and invest it to get to that million to retire :P |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's funny watching a show using X11 output only, no XV. It's ALMOST perfect, such a slight jerkiness to the images |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | i personally want Audi RS4 with a v8 4.2 engine |
| [05:13:00] | kormoc: | I'd love to live in a simple shack on the beach |
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| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | quattro |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I expected it to be a lot worse |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | GreyFoxx: what tuner you got? |
| [05:13:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, I thought it was XV output only? |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | NO_XV=1 |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | :P |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: that what was XV only? Myth ? |
| [05:14:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, yeah |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: 3 250's and 1 DVBs |
| [05:14:00] | a1fa|64: | hm.. i am looking at your rc.ivtv file.. interesting |
| [05:14:00] | a1fa|64: | dnr_mode=0,dnr_temporal=4,dnr_spatial=4 |
| [05:14:00] | a1fa|64: | what do these mean? |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: No, like a1fa mentioned you can use the NO_XV environment variable to get myth to not use XV even if it's available |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: The PVR cards can do internal filtering to help reduce noise and ghosting |
| [05:16:00] | a1fa|64: | is that something i should be running on pvr-500? |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are several settings and I just messed around until I found what I liked |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | You'd have to experiment |
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| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have a 500 to see if the effect is any different :) |
| [05:16:00] | a1fa|64: | i noticed a line on the bottom of the screen |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa|64: | that keeps blinking |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | blue ? |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa|64: | on some channels |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa|64: | whitish, bluish |
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| [05:17:00] | a1fa|64: | i cant tell :P |
| [05:17:00] | a1fa|64: | both |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | adjust your overscan to push out of view :) |
| [05:18:00] | a1fa|64: | might have to do that |
| [05:18:00] | a1fa|64: | are you on the .dev team? |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | For what ? |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa|64: | myth |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa|64: | frontend and backend |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, I suppose I am :) |
| [05:19:00] | kormoc: | you need to be +ved :P |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | nah |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | then lusers would be more likely to try and message me rather than talk in channel :) |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa|64: | GreyFoxx: lol.. you are not the guy who origionally wrote this app? |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa|64: | i'd feel bad if you are hehahhaa |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | nah, that's Chutt |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't mind being able to op myself once in a while to deal with annoying people :) |
| [05:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: No, that's Isaac |
| [05:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt = Isaac |
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| [05:22:00] | kormoc: | one day, some noob with the nick of issac will hop in here and get mobbed by people |
| [05:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | it does happen, or at least it has |
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| [05:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't noticed it in a while so someone likely registered the name |
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| [05:28:00] | a1fa|64: | GreyFoxx: when i watch video through XV.. there is an inch of black space on the right |
| [05:28:00] | a1fa|64: | how do you push that out |
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| [05:35:00] | a1fa|64: | nvm |
| [05:35:00] | a1fa|64: | cs time |
| [05:36:00] | tetra: | heh |
| [05:37:00] | tetra: | i need to think of something useful to make on my web site in php that will help me learn php |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa|64: | my weakness :P |
| [05:37:00] | tetra: | have you played quake 4? |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa|64: | dude, you wont be able to learn php unless you know the logic.. learn the logic, everything else is easy |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa|64: | i learned programming logic in the 5th grade |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa|64: | its the chart flow ine excel kind of deal |
| [05:38:00] | tetra: | i understand some simple logic |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | algorythms |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | well, you need to learn the program flow |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | what comes before what, and after and why — logic |
| [05:38:00] | tetra: | i need to learn php :) |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | so, take this.. |
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| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | you want a program to print the users name |
| [05:38:00] | tetra: | i've programmed in basic and c |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | after the user enters it |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | so |
| [05:38:00] | tetra: | yeah i was reading on php.net |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | GET – USER_NAME |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | PRINT – USER_NAME |
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| [05:39:00] | a1fa|64: | ;P now you go more complex |
| [05:39:00] | a1fa|64: | i will show you what i did in php |
| [05:39:00] | a1fa|64: | it is amazing |
| [05:39:00] | tetra: | ok |
| [05:39:00] | a1fa|64: | http://207.210.210.202/travian/index.php |
| [05:39:00] | a1fa|64: | before you proceed, do you play travian? |
| [05:40:00] | tetra: | never heard of it |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | ok :P |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | the password is |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | uff |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | i forgot |
| [05:41:00] | tetra: | you mean md5hash? |
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| [05:41:00] | a1fa|64: | 346L35 |
| [05:41:00] | a1fa|64: | it only says md5hash |
| [05:41:00] | a1fa|64: | this is your password |
| [05:41:00] | a1fa|64: | i mada graphing tool, for this game |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Great, GCC 4.1 has been released, so any hour now there will be a flood of "how come myth wont compile!" messages |
| [05:41:00] | a1fa|64: | it graphs all the players and shit |
| [05:42:00] | Agrajag-: | it has not been released........ |
| [05:42:00] | a1fa|64: | it generates html based ont he input |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Agrajag-: It was just on Slashdot as being released |
| [05:42:00] | a1fa|64: | the picture you see is the actual HTML |
| [05:42:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah slashdot is absolutely spastically retarded |
| [05:43:00] | tetra: | ok |
| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | it was generated via php, and sql database with all the coordinates |
| [05:43:00] | Agrajag-: | it was only branched about a week ago GreyFoxx |
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| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | the code is so complex, that if you enable ai |
| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | it will graph the are of influcence for each player |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Agrajag-: Ahhh, I figured it was kind of fast after 4.0 :) |
| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | that is pink |
| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | so put in number 3 |
| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | or 7 |
| [05:43:00] | tetra: | a1fa|64: neat, what's travian? |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, no more OSD stuff tonight. My eyes are going crossed |
| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | in ai, and press go |
| [05:43:00] | a1fa|64: | tetra: this web game |
| [05:44:00] | a1fa|64: | www.travian.com |
| [05:44:00] | a1fa|64: | aight |
| [05:44:00] | a1fa|64: | i need to change the password... sorry mate |
| [05:44:00] | tetra: | ok |
| [05:45:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah :P the database is all x and y coordinates |
| [05:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | ugh |
| [05:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | why isn't mysql 5 working |
| [05:45:00] | a1fa|64: | bbl |
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| [05:45:00] | tetra: | koool |
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| [06:05:00] | Kury: | anyone know if NFS is encrypted at all? |
| [06:06:00] | opello: | nfs4 has a secure option iirc |
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| [06:13:00] | tetra: | can i watch the same channel from more than one computer using mythfrontend? |
| [06:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | tetra: You can watch the same recording, but not both watch the same livetv feed... unless you are running the newer SVN code which has new livetv code which would allow you to do that |
| [06:16:00] | tetra: | so we both can't watch the same ringbuffer |
| [06:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | not with anything older than the lsat couple weeks |
| [06:16:00] | tetra: | ok, i'll wait, it's not too important |
| [06:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's where multiple tuners comes in handy :) |
| [06:17:00] | tetra: | i hope i can remember all the information i gave to mythbackend like password, etc. |
| [06:17:00] | tetra: | yeah |
| [06:17:00] | tetra: | i do have two more pci slots available in that machine |
| [06:17:00] | tetra: | what's the dual card, 350 or 500? |
| [06:17:00] | tetra: | i could get three of those and watch six channels at the same time? |
| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 500 is the dual |
| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | tetra: and yes you could |
| [06:18:00] | tetra: | sweet |
| [06:18:00] | tetra: | is there a key to toggle windowed mode? |
| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | menu item and I think you have to exit mythfrontend to make it take effect |
| [06:18:00] | tetra: | oh |
| [06:19:00] | tetra: | i like how you can scale the timestretch in realtime, wish mplayer could do that |
| [06:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | timestretch is nifty, my GF hates it though heh |
| [06:20:00] | tetra: | ohh, why? |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | she doesn't like it when I run it faster than 1.1 |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | haha.. depends on the show |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | you'd have to ask her specifically why :) |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | some shows i can run at 1.2 or 1.3 and they're ok |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | other shows that's too fast |
| [06:22:00] | ** GreyFoxx is using 1.4 right now ** | |
| [06:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | but yeah, some shows, especially with a lot of music sound horrible when sped up too much |
| [06:22:00] | Agrajag-: | you mustn't be a very intellectual show :P |
| [06:22:00] | Agrajag-: | it's not that it sounds horrible.. just they do too much talking and it's hard to understand people talking that fast |
| [06:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I'm not a show at all |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I like it fast. 1.0 is just too slow |
| [06:23:00] | Agrajag-: | err insert the word watching in my sentence up there |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I figured :) |
| [06:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | woo bedtime |
| [06:24:00] | tetra: | it makes bad music sound worse |
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| [08:55:00] | Kury: | Can anyone tell me what kernel modules I need compiled into the kernel to use lirc?? |
| [08:55:00] | Kury: | O.. and its a serial port IR receiver.. |
| [09:06:00] | sitwon: | Kury, you're doing MythTV too? |
| [09:06:00] | sitwon: | kewl |
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| [09:09:00] | Kury: | sitwon: not exactly... I'm making a jukebox.. |
| [09:10:00] | Kury: | is this your first mythbox? |
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| [09:52:00] | Dagmar: | You don't have to worry about kernel modules to use lirc. |
| [09:52:00] | Dagmar: | WHen you build lirc, it will build the proper kernel modules, if it needs one. |
| [09:52:00] | Dagmar: | Some of the lirc drivers (like the serial dongles) don't need kernel modules. |
| [10:01:00] | Kury: | even on gentoo? |
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| [11:45:00] | juski: | mornin' |
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| [11:52:00] | mrkookz: | anyone have experience getting the DVICO Fusion DVB-T card to work under MythTV (FC4) |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | not here |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | I've done a DVB-T card setup though |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | mrkookz: 'sup? |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | i have that exact card |
| [11:55:00] | mrkookz: | juski: I'm going through mythtvsetup and it's not seeing my card |
| [11:55:00] | mrkookz: | Skaface: are you using FC4? |
| [11:55:00] | juski: | ok, have you tested it yet? |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | never |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | i use debian |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | but not the debian kernel |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | i always compile one straight from kernel.org |
| [11:56:00] | juski: | mrkookz: have you tried it outside of mythtv yet? |
| [11:56:00] | mrkookz: | juski: sorry – I'm very new to MythTV – what test do you recommend? |
| [11:56:00] | Skaface: | you used to have to apply a patch to enable the driver, as it broke other drivers |
| [11:56:00] | Skaface: | but the latest kernel version you dont have to do anything |
| [11:56:00] | juski: | 1st rule IMHO is always to test your hardware (tuner etc) before even going near mythtv |
| [11:57:00] | juski: | mrkookz: do an ls /dev/ |grep dvb |
| [11:57:00] | Skaface: | i think you will most certainly have to compile a custom kernel |
| [11:57:00] | mrkookz: | I have a /dev/dvb dir |
| [11:58:00] | juski: | unless FC4 uses a new enough kernel already |
| [11:58:00] | mrkookz: | with adapter0 through 3 |
| [11:58:00] | juski: | four tuner cards? |
| [11:58:00] | mrkookz: | kernel is 2.6.14–1.1637_FC4smp |
| [11:58:00] | mrkookz: | no...only one |
| [11:58:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [11:58:00] | Skaface: | does it show up when you do dmesg |
| [11:58:00] | juski: | that's not very good for a start then |
| [11:58:00] | juski: | 4 adapters when only one is plugged in |
| [11:59:00] | Skaface: | maybe he isnt running a /dev manageent thingo |
| [11:59:00] | Skaface: | management even |
| [11:59:00] | mrkookz: | Skaface: what do you want me to grep for in dmesg? |
| [12:00:00] | Skaface: | cx88 |
| [12:00:00] | Skaface: | i think |
| [12:00:00] | Skaface: | my dmesg is full of buffer error messages |
| [12:01:00] | mrkookz: | I have a bunch of stuff – http://pastebin.ca/31146 |
| [12:02:00] | Skaface: | looks good |
| [12:02:00] | Skaface: | maybe grep for frontend |
| [12:02:00] | Skaface: | it should tell you its found some digital tuner frontend |
| [12:02:00] | Skaface: | i think |
| [12:03:00] | mrkookz: | nothing |
| [12:03:00] | mrkookz: | :( |
| [12:04:00] | Skaface: | Nov 1 12:06:48 tv kernel: cx88[0]/2: found at 0000:02:07.2, rev: 5, irq: 19, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfd000000Nov 1 12:06:48 tv kernel: cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb cardNov 1 12:06:48 tv kernel: DVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]). |
| [12:04:00] | Skaface: | ok, for some reason the carrage returns dissapeared then |
| [12:05:00] | Skaface: | Nov 1 12:06:48 tv kernel: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.4 loaded |
| [12:05:00] | Skaface: | but yeah, you should get stuff like that too |
| [12:05:00] | mrkookz: | nothing about frontend though |
| [12:06:00] | Skaface: | Nov 1 12:06:48 tv kernel: DVB: registering frontend 0 (DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T1) |
| [12:07:00] | mrkookz: | hmmm |
| [12:08:00] | juski: | lsmod |grep dvb |
| [12:08:00] | mrkookz: | nothing |
| [12:09:00] | juski: | maybe FC4 has all the V4L & DVB stuff built into the kernel |
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| [12:10:00] | Skaface: | doesnt matter, it will still show that stuff on bootup |
| [12:10:00] | Skaface: | i dont think the kernel has the required dvb stuff in it |
| [12:10:00] | Skaface: | or even as a module |
| [12:11:00] | Skaface: | maybe modprobe it |
| [12:11:00] | juski: | modprobe -l |grep cx88 |
| [12:11:00] | Skaface: | modprobe cx88-dvb |
| [12:11:00] | mrkookz: | modprobe cx88-dvb returns nothing |
| [12:12:00] | Skaface: | now dmesg |grep dvb |
| [12:12:00] | mrkookz: | cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.5 loaded |
| [12:12:00] | mrkookz: | cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb card |
| [12:12:00] | Skaface: | sweet |
| [12:12:00] | Skaface: | so add cx88-dvb into /etc/modules |
| [12:12:00] | Skaface: | and all should be good |
| [12:13:00] | juski: | there should now be a message about a frontend being registered in dmesg |
| [12:13:00] | mrkookz: | there is !! woohoo |
| [12:13:00] | juski: | sorted |
| [12:14:00] | juski: | well.. the module loading bit's sorted anyway |
| [12:14:00] | Skaface: | now the real fun begins |
| [12:14:00] | mrkookz: | when you say add cx88-dvb into /etc/modules do you mean add it to modprobe.conf? |
| [12:15:00] | Skaface: | there should be a file called /etc/modules |
| [12:15:00] | Skaface: | unless there isnt in fedora |
| [12:15:00] | Skaface: | i dont know much about modules though |
| [12:16:00] | mrkookz: | there is no modules file in /etc/ |
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| [12:21:00] | mrkookz: | show I be concerned that the card is showing up in dmesg as DVB: registering frontend 0 (Zarlink MT352 DVB-T)... |
| [12:21:00] | mrkookz: | instead of the DVICO Fusion.. |
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| [12:21:00] | Skaface: | i recall seeing that myself somewhere |
| [12:22:00] | Skaface: | i think the zarlink card is the same |
| [12:22:00] | Skaface: | just keep it in the back of your mind for when stuff doesnt work :P |
| [12:22:00] | mrkookz: | ok |
| [12:23:00] | Skaface: | ok, https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2 . . . sg03798.html |
| [12:23:00] | Skaface: | that tells you how to load modules on startup |
| [12:23:00] | Skaface: | fedora is so strange |
| [12:24:00] | mrkookz: | cheers |
| [12:25:00] | Scuzzle: | Anyone have any suggestions for a quiet frontend only hardware? I'm about to take a sledgehammer to my xbox, as it's an unsuable frontend both via Xebian/mythtv and XBMC/python scripts. :( |
| [12:25:00] | Skaface: | mrkookz: are you aware of the australian xmltv thing that you need to do? |
| [12:26:00] | Skaface: | the tv guide grabbing script |
| [12:26:00] | Scuzzle: | There's a lot of suggestion in the webpages, but was wondering what people are actully using. |
| [12:26:00] | mrkookz: | I have som notes on that too...gonna use the oztivo guide stuff |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | ok cool |
| [12:27:00] | juski: | Scuzzle: I find XBMC pretty damn good actually |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | im using roh bags's script |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | that tractor guy |
| [12:27:00] | mrkookz: | i think I have a long way to go before that :-( |
| [12:27:00] | juski: | but for my main frontend I use an EPIA M-10000 booted over the network |
| [12:27:00] | mrkookz: | I have come across that one too |
| [12:28:00] | juski: | FFS no PMs without asking 1st |
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| [12:28:00] | Skaface: | lol |
| [12:28:00] | Skaface: | crack the shits! |
| [12:29:00] | Skaface: | anyway, im off to bed |
| [12:29:00] | Skaface: | good luck mrkookz |
| [12:29:00] | mrkookz: | thanks for the help Skaface |
| [12:29:00] | mrkookz: | bye |
| [12:30:00] | Scuzzle: | Ok, I'm cofused, I admit to being a total IRC newbie, but it really looked like you replied to me via PM there juski, the client highlighted your reply and everything. |
| [12:30:00] | Scuzzle: | Sorry, though for getting it wrong. |
| [12:30:00] | Skaface: | juski has left :) |
| [12:31:00] | mrkookz: | gotta reboot....catcha |
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| [12:31:00] | Scuzzle: | Well, there you go, I never even noticed that... Well if he reads the log, Sorry. |
| [12:37:00] | Scuzzle: | Slightly off topic, but if anyone else has attempted to use XBMC as a frontend to mythtv, have they got any clues how to overcome the client crash you get if a transport stream changes aspect ratio? |
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| [12:45:00] | suse-geck: | AverMedia AVerTV PVR 150 Plus PCI TV Card |
| [12:45:00] | laga: | suse-geck: 1.) hello. |
| [12:46:00] | suse-geck: | I'm thinking of installing Fedora Core 4 x86_64, has anyone used this card---AverMedia AVerTV PVR 150 Plus PCI TV Card, and if not maybe recommend one |
| [12:46:00] | laga: | i'd recommend a pvr 150. i dunno if there are issues with x86_64, though. |
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| [12:46:00] | laga: | a hauppauge pvr 150, i mean. |
| [12:47:00] | suse-geck: | does that support TV out and NTSC? |
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| [12:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Updated Gray-OSD for those that are trying it out : http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/Gray-OSD-20051125-01.tgz |
| [12:49:00] | juski: | suse-geck: no, the pvr150 does not have a TV output |
| [12:49:00] | laga: | suse-geck: no. maybe you want to take a look at the pvr 350. |
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| [12:50:00] | laga: | juski: how many times have we answered this question now? ;) |
| [12:50:00] | juski: | I'm on the brink of exploding again |
| [12:50:00] | juski: | I've tried counting to 100 |
| [12:50:00] | suse-geck: | my video card does, and is it possible to use both concurrently? |
| [12:50:00] | juski: | always get in a baaaaaad ass mood this time of year |
| [12:51:00] | laga: | juski: bloody weather. |
| [12:51:00] | laga: | suse-geck: you should prefer the output of your video card. |
| [12:52:00] | suse-geck: | does the 150 support PAL or NTSC |
| [12:52:00] | juski: | BOTH |
| [12:52:00] | suse-geck: | sweet |
| [12:53:00] | suse-geck: | so are you dudes from over seas? well from me that is |
| [12:53:00] | ** juski is existing in the UK ** | |
| [12:54:00] | ** laga is eating cookies in germany ** | |
| [12:54:00] | laga: | american pumpkin cookies, that is. |
| [12:54:00] | juski: | I've edited all my graphics files for widescreen now |
| [12:55:00] | laga: | juski: would be nice if the theme came with a widescreen TV now :) |
| [12:56:00] | juski: | tv.png is a 16:9 TV |
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| [12:56:00] | laga: | works for me. would be better if it was a vector graphic – could print myself a very large TV then. |
| [12:56:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [12:58:00] | juski: | got my vnc server working in 1280x1024 so I can do some testing |
| [12:58:00] | laga: | whatever you're gonna do, don't hit "liveTV" :) |
| [12:59:00] | juski: | this is a seperate x server with no xv, so I can see it if I do that |
| [12:59:00] | laga: | well, it's still gonna be a lot of data :) |
| [13:00:00] | juski: | yeh I turn the colour depth down for when I'm at work |
| [13:07:00] | juski: | ah I think this theme is not for converting |
| [13:08:00] | juski: | maybe I'll just re-jiggle Minimalist |
| [13:09:00] | juski: | that'll make it like what... the *second* widescreen theme |
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| [13:11:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:11:00] | laga: | you're gonna be famous :) |
| [13:25:00] | juski: | thing is with editing the existing Grayhem theme is that the menu titles are the wrong aspect, even though they're saved as 100DPI 1280x130. i can't get it to work right, so I may aswell start again |
| [13:26:00] | juski: | either that or just go with the idea I had to make it look more MAC-ish |
| [13:26:00] | juski: | if I do that I think I'll be inclined to make icons from scratch in a 3d package |
| [13:27:00] | laga: | the frontrow-like stuff? |
| [13:27:00] | juski: | yeh |
| [13:27:00] | juski: | I can imagine that being popular |
| [13:29:00] | laga: | yep! |
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| [14:19:00] | t00m: | ok |
| [14:19:00] | t00m: | mythtv just failed the fooltest |
| [14:20:00] | [MUPPETS]Gonzo: | you mean it did not work for you? |
| [14:20:00] | t00m: | actually, mythaudio |
| [14:20:00] | t00m: | no, it works for me, cause i set it up and configured it |
| [14:20:00] | t00m: | but still, there are things i could complain about |
| [14:21:00] | t00m: | like scrolling around in the playlist having some song highlited but not being able to play it |
| [14:22:00] | t00m: | even by pressing stop and start it plays the old one again |
| [14:24:00] | laga: | mythaudio? no such thing |
| [14:24:00] | t00m: | well |
| [14:24:00] | t00m: | the mp3 player |
| [14:24:00] | t00m: | which is probably builtin |
| [14:24:00] | t00m: | can't remember |
| [14:24:00] | laga: | mythmusic you mean |
| [14:24:00] | laga: | it's an official plugin |
| [14:25:00] | t00m: | yeah, that one |
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| [14:27:00] | eidolon: | mornin. |
| [14:27:00] | t00m: | evening |
| [14:27:00] | eidolon: | so... mythtv needs a 'busy!' icon. *nod* – the menu system can take 10–15 seconds to jump from one system to another – i the meantime, there's nothing showing that it's busy doing something. |
| [14:28:00] | t00m: | in my theme there is a red dot in front of the option you selected |
| [14:28:00] | laga: | eidolon: how much memory do you have got? and aare you talking about the plugins, like mythmusic? |
| [14:28:00] | t00m: | when it's doing stuff, the red dot disappears |
| [14:28:00] | eidolon: | i have 512meg, and in this case I was jumping into Setup then into Music |
| [14:28:00] | eidolon: | (i needed to rescan my /myth/music dir for some new mp3s) |
| [14:29:00] | laga: | myhmusic will be much faster in the next release |
| [14:29:00] | t00m: | and if you press the remote too fast, myth freezes |
| [14:30:00] | t00m: | that's what happened to mee a few minutes ago |
| [14:31:00] | ** eidolon puts all 30-someodd-gig on shuffle play ** | |
| [14:31:00] | eidolon: | yah, i see, the menu indicator disappears. |
| [14:31:00] | eidolon: | that's... eh. :) a little "Working!" blurb would be nice. |
| [14:31:00] | t00m: | there you go, thats your 'not busy' indicator :) |
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| [14:31:00] | eidolon: | hmph :) |
| [14:32:00] | ** eidolon is now known as whiny_user ** | |
| [14:32:00] | t00m: | me too, in some stages |
| [14:32:00] | eidolon: | huh. dang. another power failure last night, and my boinc client didn't restart. anoying. |
| [14:32:00] | eidolon: | (my myth box runs boinc when not doing anyuthing else :) |
| [14:33:00] | t00m: | whatever that is |
| [14:33:00] | eidolon: | seti@home? |
| [14:33:00] | t00m: | a |
| [14:33:00] | eidolon: | :) |
| [14:34:00] | eidolon: | anyway. todays BIG task is moving from the NV6 Vanta card i have in there now to an MX4000 card, and, if all the saints are in the mood, that means i'll have s-video out,a d I can get rid of the 21" monitor sitting next to the tv. |
| [14:34:00] | t00m: | eidolon: did you ever notice what happens, if you play a song and then highlit another one which you want to play ? |
| [14:34:00] | t00m: | instantly |
| [14:34:00] | eidolon: | nope. i don't noodle much with mythmusic. it's too unstable. |
| [14:35:00] | eidolon: | i play music on it on occasion, cuz it's nice having music playing in my office, but i can lock it up in a heartbeat :( |
| [14:35:00] | t00m: | i just found out that i wasn't able to. thought it might be my fault |
| [14:36:00] | ** eidolon . o O (Hmm. Why does my stereo sound like crap? OHHH! Still in Dolby Pro-logic mode.) ** | |
| [14:36:00] | eidolon: | sux for music :) |
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| [14:48:00] | t00m: | how do i configure volume up and down in mythvideo? |
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| [14:59:00] | juski: | toom: depends which player you're using |
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| [15:02:00] | juski: | people at the beeb coming in here? whatever next? ;-) |
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| [15:08:00] | eidolon: | heh |
| [15:09:00] | ExitMenu: | Hi I have set up a mythtv box using knoppmyth but when I goto watch live tv I get a black screen and none of the keypresses do anything, the error I get from the terminal is Corupt JPG Data : Bad Hurman Code, I am using a PVR-350 P4 3.0 with 1.5G of Ram any suggestions |
| [15:11:00] | ExitMenu: | any one pls ? |
| [15:11:00] | juski: | we've had people with that error in here before |
| [15:12:00] | ExitMenu: | arg this is gutting I have a day to get this working or we get a WMCE box which I did not want |
| [15:13:00] | juski: | which version of knoppmyth is it, ExitMenu? Just to make sure you're not using the broken one which was built with an SVN version of mythtv |
| [15:13:00] | ExitMenu: | rc5 |
| [15:14:00] | ExitMenu: | sorry R5 A26 |
| [15:15:00] | juski: | have you changed anything in any of the profiles setup pages? |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | i.e. recording profiles etc? |
| [15:16:00] | eidolon: | i specifically got a PVR-150 with knoppmyth as it was my understanding it was the most stable. |
| [15:16:00] | ExitMenu: | I have not changed much in the profiles setup page |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | and did you verify the md5 checksum of the download? |
| [15:16:00] | ExitMenu: | yes |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | it's probably going to be worth persevering with a little longer |
| [15:17:00] | ExitMenu: | I have not changed much in the profiles setup page , I just followed a quick guide |
| [15:17:00] | juski: | a little more time or close to £1000.. hmmmm |
| [15:17:00] | ExitMenu: | The money is not an issue I just want a linux based system as I perfer it |
| [15:18:00] | ExitMenu: | I will go though the settup page again |
| [15:18:00] | juski: | ExitMenu: which guide did you follow? |
| [15:18:00] | ExitMenu: | just the breif pamphlet of knoppmyth |
| [15:19:00] | ExitMenu: | It was just all going so well I was hopoing it might just be a simple thing I had overlooked |
| [15:21:00] | juski: | ExitMenu: I googled on knoppmyth bad huffman code & got this: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-10-23 |
| [15:22:00] | ExitMenu: | ta |
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| [15:25:00] | juski: | and ExitMenu: do a little searching on the knoppmyth forums site ;) |
| [15:25:00] | eidolon: | hmm. anyone had the problem where mythmusic just wedges (exits silently) when hitting '4' for full screen visualizeation? |
| [15:26:00] | juski: | I don't use visualisations, eidolon |
| [15:26:00] | eidolon: | well THATS no fun. |
| [15:26:00] | juski: | if they were as good as say milkdrop, then I might :) |
| [15:26:00] | eidolon: | why have a nice huge jukebox in the media cabinet when it can't use spiffy keano graphics while playig music. :) |
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| [15:34:00] | juski: | eidolon: I'd prefer a client that didn't need a monitor – at least for music playback ;) |
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| [15:34:00] | t00m: | juski: i think, it's the internal one? |
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| [15:35:00] | t00m: | or.. wait. i think, i've seen mplayer somewhere in the config |
| [15:35:00] | juski: | t00m: mythvideo is set to use mplayer by default |
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| [15:36:00] | diginux: | does WinTV-PVR 150 MCE work with btaudio? I have been searching, and it is hard to find out for sure.. |
| [15:36:00] | juski: | you need to alter the lircrc file in ~/.mythtv to have entries for mplayer |
| [15:36:00] | t00m: | aha |
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| [15:36:00] | t00m: | ok |
| [15:36:00] | juski: | diginux: no it doesn't |
| [15:37:00] | diginux: | how about the normal pvr 150? |
| [15:37:00] | juski: | nope |
| [15:37:00] | juski: | the PVR150 (period) works with ivtv |
| [15:38:00] | diginux: | is there a list of for sure cards that work with bttv/btaudio? |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | why bttv/btaudio specifically ? |
| [15:39:00] | juski: | the PVR150 card can capture audio onboard |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you have a pvr150 that's a much better option for the most part |
| [15:40:00] | eidolon: | ya know. i'm getting a bad feeling about mythmusic :( |
| [15:40:00] | diginux: | I already have a bttv/btaudio card setup. I just want a second to go with it... |
| [15:40:00] | diginux: | the card is older though, probably 7 years or so |
| [15:40:00] | diginux: | but works great |
| [15:40:00] | juski: | glutton for punishment, eh? ;) |
| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | diginux: The pvr cards require 0% cpu to capture, and come out as a mpeg2 video and audio stream |
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| [15:42:00] | diginux: | GreyFoxx: so what is the best economical card to get for MythTV with linux? |
| [15:42:00] | laga: | pvr 150. |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | the best choice is the 150 |
| [15:42:00] | juski: | and diginux: the PVR150 card captures <<stereo>> audio too, not shitty mono |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's under $69 US, requires more cpu effort to capture |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | the CHEAPEST is an old bttv card but that requires more CPU effort for capturing |
| [15:43:00] | juski: | and there's a limit to how many bttv cards you can have in a PCI bus if you want good capture quality (I guess) |
| [15:43:00] | eidolon: | GRRRR. sound is hosed. rebooting :( |
| [15:44:00] | diginux: | so, will the pvr150 work nicely with the current bttv/btaudio card, I just need to also get teh ivtv module? |
| [15:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | diginux: yup |
| [15:44:00] | diginux: | so get the normal pvr150, not the mce? |
| [15:44:00] | t00m: | does config = PgUp exist? |
| [15:44:00] | juski: | yep |
| [15:44:00] | t00m: | and PgDn? |
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| [15:45:00] | juski: | diginux: it doesn't really matter which, though the MCE one doesn't come with a remote |
| [15:45:00] | juski: | (and it has an FM tuner you can't use in Linux yet) |
| [15:45:00] | juski: | t00m: yup & yup |
| [15:45:00] | diginux: | juski , but the audio and video work fine? |
| [15:45:00] | t00m: | nice |
| [15:45:00] | diginux: | juski , no patch cable or anything |
| [15:45:00] | juski: | diginux: a lot of people are using em right now |
| [15:46:00] | juski: | no messy patch cables |
| [15:46:00] | juski: | and the video quality is preety damn fine too |
| [15:46:00] | diginux: | ok, great! thanks a bunch of the help! |
| [15:46:00] | ** eidolon pines after using the hauppage remote with knoppmyth. ** | |
| [15:46:00] | eidolon: | "some day!" |
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| [15:50:00] | eidolon: | so i have a question. if i check out svn of myth (+ mythmusic + mythgame, etc) – onto my knoppmyth box... can i run them 'alongside' – ala, run the knoppmyth install, and fire up svn on occasion to test it? i'd rather not go into an 'all or nothing' situation where i destroy my knoppmyth install. |
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| [16:03:00] | juski: | eidolon: if you could install the svn version to a different location (i.e. not /usr/bin or whatever), then you probably could have two versions or more installed |
| [16:03:00] | juski: | but you'd have to stop the knoppmyth backend |
| [16:04:00] | juski: | probably safer to use a different machine altogether |
| [16:04:00] | ** eidolon nodnods. does the equivelent of 'make install' support a new target dir? I guess things like kernel drivers for the pvr card, etc don't need to be updated. ** | |
| [16:04:00] | eidolon: | yeah, the i'd need a new pvr card really. |
| [16:04:00] | eidolon: | though |
| [16:04:00] | eidolon: | i don't -need- one. |
| [16:04:00] | eidolon: | since most of what i'm doing is trying tog et UI stuff working. |
| [16:04:00] | eidolon: | anyway. task today is switching to the new video board. Be back in a bit. |
| [16:04:00] | juski: | what do you mean "2get ui stuff working" ? |
| [16:05:00] | eidolon: | er. |
| [16:05:00] | eidolon: | the reason i want to work on svn is to see if UI problems are fixed – i'm also goign to be coding on mythweb with xris.... |
| [16:05:00] | eidolon: | both don't require a tuner card. |
| [16:05:00] | eidolon: | anyway. i'm mostly prattling here. |
| [16:06:00] | juski: | which UI problems? I didn't know there were any.. hey ho |
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| [16:16:00] | eidolon: | hmm |
| [16:19:00] | eidolon: | is there some magic to getting s-video out working with the MX4000? |
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| [16:21:00] | laga: | eidolon: did you read the nvidia driver manual? |
| [16:21:00] | eidolon: | er. |
| [16:21:00] | eidolon: | no. |
| [16:21:00] | ** eidolon hides. ** | |
| [16:22:00] | eidolon: | i was running a Vanta nvidia card before i switched to the MX4000. |
| [16:22:00] | eidolon: | so nvidia drivers are all installed and working properly. |
| [16:22:00] | laga: | they require a completely different setup, i believe. you probably were running nvtv before. |
| [16:22:00] | eidolon: | ohh. :( |
| [16:22:00] | eidolon: | this is a knoppmyth install. how much yak-shaving is goig to be involved switching over? |
| [16:22:00] | laga: | eidolon: don't worry! it's very easy :) |
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| [16:23:00] | eidolon: | laga: okay. pointer to what i need to do? |
| [16:23:00] | laga: | not much. just edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. there should be some example files on knoppmyth in /etc/X11/ ! |
| [16:23:00] | eidolon: | ohhkay. |
| [16:24:00] | eidolon: | hmm. |
| [16:25:00] | eidolon: | i have NO Idea what this needs to be changed to. |
| [16:25:00] | laga: | that's why you should read the readme. |
| [16:25:00] | laga: | nvidia's readme |
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| [16:28:00] | eidolon: | okee |
| [16:29:00] | eidolon: | ahhh. foudn the readme. |
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| [16:38:00] | eidolon: | bbl |
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| [16:42:00] | juski: | aye aye mr rsdvd |
| [16:42:00] | rsdvd: | howdy Juski |
| [16:43:00] | juski: | you sussed out that IR stuff yet? |
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| [16:43:00] | rsdvd: | I have ordered a caalogue from RS so I can find the components for this reciever......have you seen how big there catalogue is :-) |
| [16:43:00] | juski: | yep – got one here :) |
| [16:43:00] | juski: | like 5 phonebooks |
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| [16:43:00] | rsdvd: | yes :-) |
| [16:44:00] | juski: | and still easier to find stuff than their website lol |
| [16:44:00] | rsdvd: | delivered free....unlike maplin that charged me £4 |
| [16:44:00] | juski: | rsdvd: they'll make that back in no time (muhahahahaha) |
| [16:45:00] | rsdvd: | LOL!.....they would if I could only work out what I need to order! |
| [16:45:00] | rsdvd: | I am afriad it has been 15 years since I last did any electronics....so I can;t remember anything |
| [16:45:00] | juski: | some veroboard, a 1k resistore, 1n4149 diode, IR receiver module and erm... a voltage regulator |
| [16:46:00] | juski: | probably a 9 pin female 'D' connector too |
| [16:46:00] | rsdvd: | there is a capacitor in there too |
| [16:46:00] | juski: | yeh for decoupling the voltage reg |
| [16:46:00] | juski: | probably 100nF |
| [16:46:00] | rsdvd: | 4.7 mF |
| [16:47:00] | rsdvd: | is the lirc.org the best schema to follow? |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | 4.7 microfarads |
| [16:47:00] | juski: | rsdvd: they're all the same really |
| [16:48:00] | rsdvd: | thats where I get confused......everyone says they are all the same but the diagrams all look differnet |
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| [16:48:00] | juski: | the lirc.org one is well laid out |
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| [16:49:00] | rsdvd: | what is verobard? is that stripboard? |
| [16:49:00] | juski: | yep |
| [16:50:00] | juski: | used to go through loads of that stuff in my teenage years – building radio transmitters |
| [16:51:00] | rsdvd: | the last time I messed with electronic it was my GCSEs....that was a long time ago ;-) |
| [16:51:00] | juski: | electronics ended up being my job |
| [16:52:00] | rsdvd: | LOL.....you are a good person to know at the moment! |
| [16:52:00] | rsdvd: | Just looking up stripbaord......there are 4 pages of it :-( |
| [16:52:00] | juski: | just get a little bit, rsdvd |
| [16:52:00] | juski: | be careful to only get the single-sided too |
| [16:53:00] | juski: | when I was at college I helped set up a pirate TV station |
| [16:53:00] | juski: | (ahem) |
| [16:54:00] | rsdvd: | LOL.....I won;t tell on you |
| [16:54:00] | juski: | boosted a video sender.. was great fun. though I never watched any of the programmes (they were mostly porn vids with the 'storylines' edited out) |
| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahaha A friend of mine did that at his dorm |
| [16:55:00] | rsdvd: | there must be loads of poeple out there struggling to make these recivers int he UK....maybe if I get this to work I should start a business |
| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | he bought one of those x10 video transmitters and a bunch of the other people in the dorms bought the receivers only |
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| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | he would play stuff from his PC or DVD player and they would all pick it up :) |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | rsdvd: would you wanna do tech support? there's some terribly stupid folks out there |
| [16:55:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: cool :) |
| [16:56:00] | mrgoby: | anyone using a hauppauge 350 card ? |
| [16:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | he was an engineer and did something to increase the transmission strength to double the distance the signal would reach |
| [16:56:00] | rsdvd: | LOL.....No – you have seen my level of competance.....but I could sell them 'as is'...and send them here to speak to you |
| [16:57:00] | mrgoby: | i'm thinking about picking one up, as i'm using a mini-itx board with only vga... can anyone say whether this card's decoding capabilities are well supported under linux ? |
| [16:57:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: I took an amateur radio power amp & modified its frequency response |
| [16:57:00] | juski: | mrgoby: my mini-itx has a TV output |
| [16:57:00] | juski: | and it's very good quality |
| [16:58:00] | juski: | mrgoby: which board do you have? |
| [16:58:00] | mrgoby: | juski, mine is the cl1000 version, with dual lan... i know the chipset supports tvout, at least i think it does... |
| [16:58:00] | mrgoby: | but i only have vga port |
| [16:58:00] | mrgoby: | i was going to get a hauppauge 250, but the 350 seems to be about the same price |
| [16:59:00] | juski: | mrgoby: lots of people use pvr350 cards with linux & mythtv |
| [16:59:00] | mrgoby: | i wouldnt mind using the via chip but i'm not sure if just a vga --> svideo cable would cut it... and i'd rather spend the money on the 350, rather than a vga converter box |
| [17:00:00] | mrgoby: | cool |
| [17:00:00] | juski: | dual LAn though (why?) |
| [17:01:00] | mrgoby: | at the time, i was working on a project where i needed a pci slot for my TDM card and the box had to also function as a gateway |
| [17:02:00] | mrgoby: | i now wish i had gotten the svideo out, but oh well... |
| [17:02:00] | juski: | fair enough |
| [17:02:00] | juski: | rsdvd: another reason not to go into a sideline of selling IR receivers: CE marking requirements etc |
| [17:02:00] | juski: | (red tape) :( |
| [17:03:00] | EnterUserName: | woo hoo |
| [17:03:00] | ** EnterUserName parties like its 2999 ** | |
| [17:03:00] | rsdvd: | I think I could get away without all that carp ...... if I was only smalltime |
| [17:03:00] | EnterUserName: | What is the normal resolution on tvs nowadays? |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | EnterUserName: PAL or NTSC ? |
| [17:03:00] | EnterUserName: | NTSC |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | 720x480 |
| [17:03:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [17:03:00] | EnterUserName: | ok |
| [17:04:00] | ** EnterUserName wish he could scream out aloud.. ** | |
| [17:04:00] | juski: | not that TV resolution is ever measured in pixels but... |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | the max is 720z480, normal tv broadcasts are around 544x480 |
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| [17:04:00] | juski: | eeks – no wonder american TV shows look so crap on UK tv |
| [17:04:00] | EnterUserName: | only cuz im trying to figure out if i should lower quality of the file or resolution to save disk space |
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| [17:05:00] | ** EnterUserName will give 544x480 a try ** | |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: yeah, you 720x576 buggers |
| [17:05:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx: yeah, you 1080p buggers |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | heheh |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | ;) |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was only referring to analog cable :) |
| [17:05:00] | mrgoby: | EnterUserName, just depends on if you will only watch on tv... if you are playing on a monitor, that is different |
| [17:06:00] | rsdvd: | juski: what is a 'standard' resistor called.....there are hundreds in this index |
| [17:06:00] | mrgoby: | diode |
| [17:06:00] | mrgoby: | ? |
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| [17:07:00] | juski: | rsdvd: 188–223 :D |
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| [17:07:00] | Jonny0stars: | hi |
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| [17:07:00] | mrgoby: | heeeeeeeeere's Jonny ! |
| [17:07:00] | rsdvd: | Juski: I tell you what..do you want to make my shopping lsit for me :-) |
| [17:07:00] | Jonny0stars: | whats the manual change channel command for wintv cards |
| [17:08:00] | Jonny0stars: | REDRUM :-P |
| [17:08:00] | ** juski (to wife).. give me the remote control please ** | |
| [17:09:00] | juski: | rsdvd: metal film, quarter watt will do |
| [17:09:00] | Jonny0stars: | and just wondering im using alsa and my wintv card go's strait to line in what device would this be ? /dev/linein or somthing ? |
| [17:10:00] | juski: | rsdvd: and be sure to get the RoHS compliant part, or you'll die if you touch it |
| [17:10:00] | rsdvd: | LOL |
| [17:10:00] | juski: | (or something) |
| [17:11:00] | rsdvd: | just been reading there 'guide to legislation' |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | will have to use windows ME for the rest of your life.. hehe |
| [17:11:00] | juski: | fscking beaurocrats. they make everyone move away from lead solder to save the environment.. to lead free solder which needs 25% more energy to melt |
| [17:11:00] | rsdvd: | LOL......makes sense to them |
| [17:12:00] | rsdvd: | that reminds me...I will need to find my soldering iron |
| [17:12:00] | mrgoby: | i am going to eat lead in protest |
| [17:12:00] | Jonny0stars: | any one got a wintv here i forget the model but its a old one with no PVR functions or anything |
| [17:14:00] | juski: | Jonny0stars: you wire the tuner card line output to the soundcard's line input, then go into alsamixer & make sure the line input is set to record, then mae sure the line in is muted in the playback section |
| [17:14:00] | Jonny0stars: | juski: yea i have done that |
| [17:14:00] | juski: | then get mythtv to use /dev/whatever_your_soundcard_is |
| [17:15:00] | Jonny0stars: | juski: ah ok which will be somthing like ? |
| [17:15:00] | Jonny0stars: | snd what ever |
| [17:15:00] | juski: | something like that |
| [17:16:00] | juski: | mythtv will probably have a list of sensible options to choose from |
| [17:16:00] | Jonny0stars: | whats the modlist command again |
| [17:16:00] | juski: | lsmod |
| [17:16:00] | Jonny0stars: | cheers |
| [17:16:00] | juski: | to list what's loaded |
| [17:16:00] | juski: | and modprobe -l |
| [17:16:00] | juski: | to list what modules you have |
| [17:17:00] | juski: | oh damn.. I just saw how many holiday days I've got left |
| [17:17:00] | juski: | 14 |
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| [17:28:00] | juski: | and now, it is the weekend.. ttfn folks |
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| [18:04:00] | peerke: | hey guys.. would an amd1700+ 1024ram be enough to smoothly run mythtv? |
| [18:04:00] | DeltaF: | I've heard quoted 1Ghz per stream |
| [18:04:00] | DeltaF: | what video card? |
| [18:05:00] | DeltaF: | er tuner |
| [18:05:00] | peerke: | for the coax? |
| [18:05:00] | peerke: | pinnacle |
| [18:05:00] | DeltaF: | MPEG2? |
| [18:05:00] | peerke: | one mom. |
| [18:06:00] | peerke: | lspci gives 01:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) |
| [18:07:00] | DeltaF: | Hmm. |
| [18:08:00] | peerke: | pinnacle pctv stereo |
| [18:09:00] | peerke: | does it have a hardware decoder? |
| [18:09:00] | DeltaF: | The web page is not clear.. |
| [18:09:00] | DeltaF: | " * To capture or export MPEG-2 video for VCD, SVCD or DVD, you need to activate this feature" |
| [18:10:00] | DeltaF: | Anyway, it doesn't matter. Your CPU should be fast enough even if its just a framegrabber. |
| [18:10:00] | DeltaF: | If it encodes MPEG2 you could get away with a lot less. :) |
| [18:11:00] | peerke: | haha ok :) going to try mythtv on this box then |
| [18:11:00] | peerke: | could it to with only 512 ram? or would you recommend 1024 |
| [18:11:00] | DeltaF: | Not sure. Haven't gotten my frontend working yet. ;) |
| [18:11:00] | peerke: | haha ok, what os are you using? |
| [18:11:00] | DeltaF: | Backend with wintv go works well though |
| [18:11:00] | DeltaF: | Fedora FC 4 |
| [18:12:00] | peerke: | going to use gentoo |
| [18:12:00] | DeltaF: | I'm thinking of getting knoppmyth working on another PC just to watch stuff. |
| [18:13:00] | peerke: | im hoping my remote is supported by gentoo |
| [18:13:00] | DeltaF: | lirc handles a lot of stuff. Is the remote part of the pinnacle kit |
| [18:13:00] | DeltaF: | ? |
| [18:13:00] | peerke: | jup |
| [18:14:00] | DeltaF: | I would hope someone has setup a pinnacle in gentoo already. |
| [18:14:00] | peerke: | in here.. jup would be perfect |
| [18:14:00] | DeltaF: | Check lirc's pages |
| [18:16:00] | peerke: | its supported, say the mythtv docs :) |
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| [18:44:00] | peerke: | let it snow let it snow let it snow.. |
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| [18:58:00] | peerke: | does mythtv support dvd playing across the network.. if i create a video ts folder on the network.. can it read the dvd? |
| [19:00:00] | dev-: | myth doesnt do any actual playing of dvds |
| [19:00:00] | dev-: | its either mplayer or xine |
| [19:00:00] | dev-: | so whatever they can do, then "myth can do it" |
| [19:00:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [19:01:00] | dev-: | you configure which one it uses. mplayer is default. most people change to xine. |
| [19:01:00] | dev-: | xine supports dvd menus, mplayer doesnt. |
| [19:03:00] | dev-: | its best you setup myth first, then go through the menus and such. these questions will then be answered for you there :) |
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| [19:08:00] | dev-: | thats nice of them to put your fullname in your hostname :P |
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| [19:08:00] | \Grooby\_: | happy black friday people |
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| [19:09:00] | dev-: | there's nothing happy about it, unless you *havent* been to the mall/stores today :) |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | nope |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | staying home |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | replace my car battery |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | played some eternal lands |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | and now working on my hd3k card |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | i rather pay a little extra money for my sanity |
| [19:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | =D |
| [19:10:00] | dev-: | im eating left over dominoes breadsticks with some oj stareing at my lcds doing nothing. ordered some car parts, new L hose since mine split, loosing boost, some clamps and some extra hose for a couple others that look frayed |
| [19:10:00] | dev-: | yay. |
| [19:10:00] | \Grooby\_: | hahaha |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | sounds fun |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | ;) |
| [19:11:00] | dev-: | too cold to go out today. |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | aye |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | where you at? |
| [19:11:00] | dev-: | nj, usa |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | ahh ok |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | DC here and it's already cold as a midget |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | GF went to NYC to visit her bro |
| [19:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | she didn't had fun yesterday w/ the rain and all |
| [19:12:00] | dev-: | yeah its a cold spell today. high of 36 here or something. when i went to wawa to get milk/oj my car said it was 26 |
| [19:12:00] | dev-: | its warmed up a little, its 32 now heh |
| [19:13:00] | dev-: | yeah the roads were terrible yesterday. so much traffic. took me almost 2hrs to get down to my parents for thanksgiving dinner. usually a 40minute drive |
| [19:13:00] | dev-: | billions of people on the roads :P |
| [19:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | yup |
| [19:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | she took the train tho |
| [19:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | so it's a little easier |
| [19:13:00] | dev-: | smart move |
| [19:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | DC direct to penn station |
| [19:14:00] | dev-: | much, much easier than dealing with that BS on the roads heh |
| [19:14:00] | dev-: | i go down to dc to visit friends, usually a 2.5–3hr drive depending. i bet yesterday it would have been 6 or more hours |
| [19:14:00] | \Grooby\_: | yup |
| [19:14:00] | dev-: | yesterday morning some tanker exploded on 95 so it was shutdown for hours, in the morning |
| [19:15:00] | \Grooby\_: | yeah |
| [19:15:00] | \Grooby\_: | i heard |
| [19:15:00] | dev-: | way early morning |
| [19:15:00] | \Grooby\_: | it was all over the news here |
| [19:15:00] | dev-: | same here yeah |
| [19:16:00] | dev-: | no more wax on, wax off for mr miyagi |
| [19:16:00] | dev-: | ;/ |
| [19:16:00] | \Grooby\_: | roflmao |
| [19:16:00] | \Grooby\_: | i want to go out w/ the 16 yr old elizabeth shue |
| [19:16:00] | \Grooby\_: | or however you spell her name |
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| [19:35:00] | twm: | is mythtv 0.18.1 compatible with mysql 5.0.16 ? I'm getting syntax errors in the query because of the use of the reserved word 'repeat' being used as a table attribute. |
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| [19:39:00] | \Grooby\_: | 4 gig's not enough for root for gentoo |
| [19:39:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
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| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | twm: No it wouldn't be |
| [19:40:00] | twm: | what mysql version would you recommend? |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | 4.0x or 4.1x |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I personally still use 4.0.x |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | no reason to upgrade it |
| [19:41:00] | twm: | GreyFoxx: cool, thanks |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | frontend i put up a little while ago is useing 4.1, works great. |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | didnt have to do anything special. |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | oh wait |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | dr |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | its a slavebackened i forgot. installed mysql but didnt need it |
| [19:41:00] | mrgoby: | man, why did gentoo get rid of stage 1 and 2 ? |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | nevermind! |
| [19:41:00] | dev-: | because the majority of gentoo installers are idiots? |
| [19:42:00] | ** mrgoby hopes he is in the minority ** | |
| [19:43:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [19:43:00] | mrgoby: | i mean... is it really that much harder ? scripts/bootstrap.sh && emerge -e system .... i'm a freakin genius |
| [19:43:00] | dev-: | no, its not |
| [19:43:00] | mrgoby: | must just be a pain to maintain... |
| [19:47:00] | dev-: | im curious to see what happens when my masterbackend runs out of space. will it automatically switch recordings to the 3rd tuner thats on the slavebackend, or start writing files to the slavebackend while useing the tuners on the master.. mythweb aggregates the slave/master drives into 'total' space so im curious.. |
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| [19:50:00] | Servo888: | Is there such a thing as svcd @ 16:9? |
| [19:58:00] | beavis: | how can i get rid of all the strange qt warning messages during the compile= |
| [19:58:00] | beavis: | ? |
| [19:58:00] | beavis: | /usr/include/qt3/qsqldatabase.h:63: warning: 'class QSqlDriverCreatorBase' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor |
| [19:58:00] | beavis: | /usr/include/qt3/qxml.h:224: warning: 'class QXmlReader' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor |
| [19:58:00] | beavis: | ... |
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| [21:10:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. I've got a job that's stuck on transcoding at 33% and has been for about three days now. How do i clear it down ? |
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| [21:32:00] | kahuna_: | Hi. I want to automatically transcode my recordings to mpeg4. In my transcoders menu I have "From RTJPEG/Mpeg4" and "From Mpeg2". When are each of these used? |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | mpeg2 for hardware mpeg2 encoder cards |
| [21:34:00] | kormoc: | rtjpeg/mpeg4 for bttv cards |
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| [21:45:00] | defaultro: | happy thanksgiving guys |
| [21:45:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, what can you say about stability of fusion light hdtv card on mythtv? Is it well supported now? |
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| [21:47:00] | kahuna_: | thanks kormoc |
| [21:47:00] | davro: | Hi all, i have been trying to squeeze, a Hauppauge PVR150 PCI Low Profile into a small mini itx case with no luck, just wondered if there is any support for PCMCIA cards with mythtv? |
| [21:48:00] | kahuna_: | must be a really tiny case |
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| [21:50:00] | kahuna_: | If v4l supports the card then myth will |
| [21:50:00] | davro: | kahuna_, Yup 6.5 cm in height, did not really buy it with this in mind, but we like a squeeze. |
| [21:52:00] | davro: | kahuna_, Cheers will looking v4l device support, have been looking at this one http://www.scan.co.uk/products/productinfo.as . . . uctID=308729 proberly a total random. |
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| [22:03:00] | Kury: | How do I install LIRC in gentoo? I keep emerging it and it installs but it doesn't find/configure the hardware?? I've tried this tutorial http://rdnzl.flashfingaz.de/rrdtool/paste.php?show=17 |
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| [22:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Looks like maybe you don't have module unloading in your kernel? |
| [22:04:00] | Krazylegz: | "Loadable module support." |
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| [22:06:00] | Kury: | I have module loading/unloading installed in the kernel.. |
| [22:06:00] | Kury: | I believe I have the pctv IR receiver/remote.. but I'm not sure |
| [22:07:00] | Kury: | its a pinnacle capture card reciever/remote that plugs into the serial port.. |
| [22:07:00] | Kury: | FYI: if its any help I do have it installed and working on another machine.. |
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| [22:09:00] | defaultro: | anyone here uses DVICO Fusion Lite card? |
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| [22:11:00] | defaultro: | or does the latest linux kernel come with a driver for this card? |
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| [22:20:00] | davro: | Hi again, is anyone having any success with a usb device and mythtv ? |
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| [22:23:00] | Kury: | usb device? |
| [22:23:00] | Kury: | what kind? |
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| [22:25:00] | Kury: | like a usb capture device? |
| [22:25:00] | davro: | Kury, sorry have been looking at the Hauppauge WinTV USB 2.0 |
| [22:27:00] | Kury: | as far as I know.. the hauppauge USB's have never worked in linux.. |
| [22:28:00] | Kury: | I honistly don't know of any external usb capture devices that work in linux (doesn't mean there isn't any) .. there just isn't many (if any) |
| [22:29:00] | davro: | Kury, Only reason i looked at it was v4l http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/USBVideo just wondered if anyone is having any luck with mythtv |
| [22:30:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. I've got a job that's stuck on transcoding at 33% and has been for about three days now. How do i remove it from the transcode queue, and get it to start again ? |
| [22:30:00] | davro: | Hey but im no expert in these matters, just trying to cover my options before parting with some dosh. |
| [22:32:00] | Kury: | davro: v4l works great... I just don't believe there are any usb devices that are supported... |
| [22:33:00] | davro: | Kury, fair enough the USB option does seems a little hairy. |
| [22:35:00] | Kury: | davro: I think the big reason it hasn't been adopted in linux is because of the complexity of getting a working driver for it... going the reverse engineering route.. |
| [22:35:00] | Kury: | davro: and it will probably stay that way until some manufacture decides to help us out w/ hardware specs for a device... |
| [22:37:00] | davro: | Kury, sounds very naughty we don't want people getting into trouble, back to the drawing board |
| [22:37:00] | davro: | Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150 Low Profile and a bigger mini itx case. |
| [22:39:00] | Kury: | davro: I don't think there is a single capture card for linux that hasn't had to be reverse enginered to get working drivers to use the thing.. its just how things work until hardware mfs decide to support linux themselves.. |
| [22:40:00] | dev-: | simon_c: the way id try first, is go into the recording that was supposed to be transcoded and hit x again, that'll stop transcoding.. |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | simon_c: or its trying to transcode a deleted file, does ps show what its actually trying to transcode and if it actually exists? |
| [22:41:00] | simon_c: | dev-: Ahh. !! Simple as that. I should have thought of that |
| [22:41:00] | davro: | Kury, cheers for the education, i will become more proactively annoying now when im in computer shops. |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | simon_c: try out the easy way first hehe |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | simon_c: then you can just hit x again and it'll transcode again |
| [22:41:00] | dev-: | hopefully with better luck ;) |
| [22:42:00] | Kury: | davro: good luck.. |
| [22:42:00] | Kury: | How do I install LIRC in gentoo? I keep emerging it and it installs but it doesn't find/configure the hardware?? I've tried this tutorial http://rdnzl.flashfingaz.de/rrdtool/paste.php?show=17 |
| [22:42:00] | dev-: | your kernel is misconfigured. |
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| [22:43:00] | dev-: | Kury: lines 256–261 tell you your problem |
| [22:43:00] | Kury: | dev-: me? |
| [22:43:00] | dev-: | yes. |
| [22:43:00] | simon_c: | dev-: Humm. I've told it to stop transcoding, but it's still showing up in the myth-status window on mythweb. |
| [22:44:00] | dev-: | so reconfig your kernel with that lirc is asking for, then recompile, reboot, try again |
| [22:44:00] | dev-: | Kury: and hopefully you're not useing 2.6.14 ;p |
| [22:44:00] | Kury: | dev-: module loading/unloading is compiled into my kernel.. |
| [22:44:00] | dev-: | simon_c: how about top/ps on the box? still show it? |
| [22:44:00] | dev-: | Kury: check your bootloader and make sure its booting that kernel then, because according to that emerge, its not. |
| [22:44:00] | Kury: | dev-: thats a relief.. what wrong w/ 2.6.14?? |
| [22:45:00] | dev-: | 2.6.14 has issues with ALGOBIT requireing a patch, which is annoying, or downgrade to 2.6.13-r5 |
| [22:45:00] | simon_c: | dev-: Humm. two transcode threads running for some reason. I'll kill them. |
| [22:46:00] | Kury: | dev-: well crap.. |
| [22:46:00] | dev-: | killing them off shouldnt hurt anything |
| [22:46:00] | dev-: | especailly if they've been running for 3 days hehe.. |
| [22:46:00] | simon_c: | dev-: Humm. they won't die. Even with a -9 |
| [22:47:00] | simon_c: | I gues it's a reboot the box job. |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | did they respawn or something? |
| [22:47:00] | Kury: | dev-: I'm running the 2.6.14.. so is this forsure the ALGOBIT problem? |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | Kury: i saw it personally, and helped one other dude in here with it |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | so yeah, pretty sure |
| [22:47:00] | simon_c: | nope. still there, same PIDs. |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | simon_c: you killed them off as root right? |
| [22:47:00] | simon_c: | yep |
| [22:47:00] | dev-: | anything return when you did it? |
| [22:48:00] | simon_c: | nope |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | hrm heh |
| [22:48:00] | simon_c: | strange I know. |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | what status are they, Z? |
| [22:48:00] | Kury: | dev-: did it come up w/ the same error? |
| [22:48:00] | simon_c: | What options to ps do I do for status ? |
| [22:48:00] | dev-: | Kury: no, you havent even gotten to that point yet. i was just forwarning you. |
| [22:49:00] | dev-: | Kury: as i said already, lines 258–261 in that link you pasted is your problem |
| [22:49:00] | dev-: | Kury: so check out those lines and do what it requested :) |
| [22:49:00] | dev-: | simon_c: ps -ax will show it |
| [22:49:00] | Kury: | dev-: execpt for the fact that I already have those 2 things compiled into the kernel.. |
| [22:49:00] | simon_c: | dev-: DN+ ? |
| [22:50:00] | dev-: | Kury: then as i said, check your bootloader and make sure its loading that kernel, then check timestamps on the image and make sure they match to the last time you compiled it. because lirc is not detecting it so its not there../ |
| [22:50:00] | dev-: | simon_c: hrm, so its sleeping. |
| [22:51:00] | dev-: | simon_c: check dmesg, see anything funky? drive errors or anyhing? |
| [22:51:00] | Kury: | dev-: I just installed this system the other day.. there is only one kernel.. and it does.. have (un)loading module support |
| [22:51:00] | Kury: | dev-: .. thats my problem.. |
| [22:51:00] | dev-: | Kury: ok =] |
| [22:51:00] | dev-: | Kury: then good luck dude. =] |
| [22:52:00] | dev-: | you're fortunate you have an error message that tells you exactly what the problem is |
| [22:52:00] | Kury: | dev-: I'm not saying your wrong.. I'm just saying.. I don't know what to do.. its in there.. and the emerge says its not.. |
| [22:52:00] | dev-: | so it should be very easy for you to track down. |
| [22:52:00] | simon_c: | dev-: Hummm. The disks are on another box, but dmesg on the myth box shows "VFS: busy inodes on changed media" but I'm not suer if that's relevent. |
| [22:52:00] | dev-: | simon_c: alot of times D is io sleep |
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| [22:52:00] | dev-: | like device not responding or something similar |
| [22:52:00] | dev-: | is why i asked |
| [22:52:00] | dev-: | ;/ |
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| [22:53:00] | simon_c: | dev-: Humm. Would mythtranscode use the local disk for temp storage ? |
| [22:53:00] | Kury: | dev-: how do I verify that the (un)loading modules is turned on in the kernel? (the only one I have) |
| [22:53:00] | simon_c: | dev-: I did have some problems with live TV when teh live TV buffer was on the local disk. It's all been fine once I moved it onto teh NFS drivers. |
| [22:53:00] | dev-: | simon_c: hrm, im not sure, i believe it stores the transcoded files in the same location as your recordings. but im not certain, i dont use it |
| [22:54:00] | simon_c: | dev-: OK. thanks for the pointers anyway. guess I'll ahve to reboot the box anway. |
| [22:54:00] | dev-: | Kury: what did you use to configure your kernel? |
| [22:54:00] | simon_c: | at least I know where the problem is now, even if I can't fix it '-) |
| [22:54:00] | Kury: | make menuconfig |
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| [22:55:00] | Kury: | and I've been insmod'ing stuff.. |
| [22:55:00] | dev-: | have you tried rmmod? |
| [22:55:00] | Kury: | trying.. |
| [22:56:00] | Kury: | yup.. that works too |
| [22:56:00] | dev-: | grep -i unload /usr/src/linux/.config |
| [22:56:00] | dev-: | that returns? |
| [22:56:00] | Kury: | CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y |
| [22:56:00] | Kury: | CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y |
| [22:56:00] | dev-: | hmm |
| [22:57:00] | dev-: | Kury: did you enable i2c support and all that crap? |
| [22:58:00] | Kury: | not sure.. |
| [22:58:00] | dev-: | i know you need at least CONFIG_I2C=y |
| [22:58:00] | dev-: | and |
| [22:58:00] | dev-: | CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=y |
| [22:58:00] | dev-: | but i have alot more selected for temperature crap so im not sure if any else are needed in there, like i have my chipset compiled in and stuff too |
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| [22:59:00] | Kury: | no i2c.. it looks like |
| [22:59:00] | dev-: | besides i cant wait to see if you run into algobit problems |
| [22:59:00] | dev-: | select those 2 recompile and reboot then try again |
| [22:59:00] | Kury: | I didn't see any algobit in the .config at all? |
| [22:59:00] | dev-: | obviously its not the unloadable module part |
| [23:00:00] | dev-: | yeah it wont be there until you turn on i2c |
| [23:00:00] | Kury: | k |
| [23:00:00] | dev-: | you might as well select the i2c sensors for your chipset too... then you can installed lm_sensors and look at temperature stuff which is nifty sometimes. |
| [23:00:00] | Kury: | thanks for you help dev- .... its gonna take me an hour or two before I can have the kernel recompiled & rebooted... |
| [23:01:00] | dev-: | ok then definitely choose the sensors for your chipset |
| [23:01:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [23:01:00] | dev-: | thing is i think you're going to run into algobit problems |
| [23:01:00] | Kury: | how do I find out what chipset I'm using.. (I don't know much about the hardware of this machine I picked up) |
| [23:01:00] | dev-: | lspci -v might give you some clues |
| [23:02:00] | dev-: | like nforce/via etc.. problem if its via is that there's a ton of sensors for via.. but maybe lspci will give you some model info |
| [23:02:00] | Kury: | Intel Corp.. |
| [23:02:00] | dev-: | now you just need to choose betwen 810 and 801 |
| [23:02:00] | dev-: | see either of those? |
| [23:03:00] | Kury: | http://rdnzl.flashfingaz.de/rrdtool/paste.php?show=20 |
| [23:03:00] | dev-: | i would put money on 810 |
| [23:03:00] | Kury: | 815? |
| [23:03:00] | dev-: | damn i was wr0ng! |
| [23:03:00] | dev-: | 801 |
| [23:03:00] | dev-: | there goes my money ;/ |
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| [23:04:00] | Kury: | where is this algo bit thing in the menuconfig? I'm sitting in the i2c support section.. |
| [23:04:00] | dev-: | Kury: before you make image grep the config and make sure algobit gets turned on, the last myth box i setup i had to dick around for a little while until i found it |
| [23:04:00] | dev-: | its not an option unto itself, it gets turned on when you choose a specific setting |
| [23:04:00] | dev-: | i think config_i2c |
| [23:04:00] | dev-: | but check before you make |
| [23:05:00] | xanderp: | looking for someone using an epiaM10000 as a frontend... wondering what distro you are using. |
| [23:05:00] | simon_c: | bah. the damn box isn't shutting down either. Must be something screwy with the disk. (sigh) |
| [23:05:00] | simon_c: | time to find another one I think. |
| [23:05:00] | dev-: | xanderp: gentoo |
| [23:05:00] | ivor: | xanderp: lfs. :) |
| [23:05:00] | Juski: | xanderp: that'd be me, and I'm using minimyth |
| [23:06:00] | dev-: | all the flavors of the rainbow, apparently |
| [23:06:00] | dev-: | =] |
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| [23:06:00] | xanderp: | i've tinkered with minimyth, gentoo, and now installing redhat. can't seem to get everything to work well together. |
| [23:06:00] | Juski: | anyone with theming experience in tonight? I'm trying to find out if it's possible to have one column of buttons instead of rows of columns |
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| [23:06:00] | Kury: | dev- there is an I2C Algorithms menu.. it has I2C big-banging interface PCF 8584 interface and PCA 9564 interface? |
| [23:06:00] | sgentry6: | I am building a gentoo box right now, should I use the make flags suggested from the wiki site while installing the system? or should I wait to use those once I have the system up and running |
| [23:06:00] | ** simon_c uses suse ** | |
| [23:06:00] | dev-: | Kury: thats it. bitbanging |
| [23:07:00] | Kury: | I would assume its one of these.. |
| [23:07:00] | dev-: | Kury: turn that on. |
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| [23:07:00] | Juski: | xanderp: I'm no linux guru & I got minimyth working great |
| [23:07:00] | Kury: | dev- anything else I should turn on before I recompile? nifty stuff no one has every filled me in on? |
| [23:07:00] | dev-: | you have v4l turned on right |
| [23:07:00] | xanderp: | dev-: I had gentoo running fairly nice, but the LIRC wouldn't work no matter what I did on the current kernel. (known bugs, I know). If i went back a version on the kernel in gentoo, my LIRC worked, but then sound was screwed. Aughhh! |
| [23:08:00] | dev-: | xanderp: algobit? :) |
| [23:08:00] | Kury: | no.. I don't have a caputre card of anykind in this system.. (and wont) |
| [23:08:00] | xanderp: | dev-: I couldn't get /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc/0 to show up. |
| [23:08:00] | dev-: | Kury: oh, just a frontend.. ok, cant think of anything else hehe |
| [23:08:00] | Kury: | dev- jukebox... |
| [23:09:00] | dev-: | xanderp: loaded the kernel modules? |
| [23:09:00] | dev-: | xanderp: lirc_i2c ? |
| [23:09:00] | xanderp: | lirc_i2c and lirc_dev both |
| [23:09:00] | dev-: | ;/ |
| [23:09:00] | Juski: | damn.. I meant to ask, about theming: I'm working on something where theme.xml would ideally have one row of four buttons, using the left & right arrow keys to navigate. Is it possible? I can't seem to get it to work |
| [23:09:00] | Kury: | dev- ok... CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=y |
| [23:09:00] | xanderp: | i would prefer to keep all my systems gentoo |
| [23:10:00] | Juski: | xanderp: my backend is running on gentoo |
| [23:10:00] | dev-: | Kury: that shoulda do ya, hopefully you get a new error when emergeing lirc |
| [23:10:00] | Juski: | the hardest part of minimyth is getting the diskless booting to work |
| [23:10:00] | xanderp: | so is mine... 64 bit at that! |
| [23:10:00] | dev-: | Kury: and incase im not around and its algobit, now you know to downgrade to 2.4.13 hehe |
| [23:10:00] | Kury: | dev: lol I hope not.. hope it just works.. |
| [23:10:00] | dev-: | or you can apply some patch i found while googling but decided screw it and downgraded instead. |
| [23:10:00] | Kury: | dev: ya..now I atleast have some direction have 2 days... soon as my emerges are done I'll start recompiling the kernel.. and reboot |
| [23:11:00] | xanderp: | Juski: I had that working, but the composite video out was very crappy... |
| [23:11:00] | Juski: | composite is _always_ crappy |
| [23:11:00] | Kury: | dev: thanks again... (sorry for being an ass) |
| [23:11:00] | ** Juski uses svideo ** | |
| [23:11:00] | dev-: | Kury: np, good luck |
| [23:11:00] | xanderp: | composite was nice from my nvidia card that i used to use (now my backend box) |
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| [23:13:00] | xanderp: | i wish i had imaged my machine before i blew it away to tinker with redhat now... :( |
| [23:13:00] | Kury: | w/ redhat... :( poor soul... |
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| [23:14:00] | Juski: | oh fuck. Unknown element leftarrow |
| [23:14:00] | xanderp: | i'm going to restart again with gentoo on my epia box. (i'm too indesicive...) |
| [23:14:00] | Juski: | ah well.. back to the drawing board |
| [23:14:00] | Juski: | xanderp: diskless is best ;) |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | you could always make it gentoo, then cramfs it |
| [23:15:00] | xanderp: | anyone want to image an epiaM10000 gentoo myth frontend box for me? |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | hahahahha. good luck |
| [23:15:00] | xanderp: | Juski: I don't know... when i had minimyth installed it seemed slower to me than w/disk. |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | I don't think so |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | anyway time to watch some telly |
| [23:17:00] | xanderp: | switching machines... |
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| [23:17:00] | Kury: | .. gentoo kicks ass.. |
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| [23:17:00] | dev-: | its by far my favorite linux distro. but im a bsd person |
| [23:18:00] | dev-: | so portage is very much my speed with being a ports person =] |
| [23:18:00] | xanderp: | sorry, which one? |
| [23:18:00] | dev-: | gento0 |
| [23:18:00] | xanderp: | ahh i like it best as well |
| [23:18:00] | dev-: | before gentoo it was slackware, but always thought of linux as the 'chore' os for depends and stuyff |
| [23:18:00] | dev-: | then portage came along... and i thought, why the hell hasnt anyone done this already. since its so closely modeled off ports |
| [23:18:00] | dev-: | but has its differences, of course |
| [23:19:00] | dev-: | i hate rpms because of lack of flexibility. so never liked redhat. debian pkgs were the same way |
| [23:19:00] | dev-: | have to grab rpm src then adding configure options and compiling and all that garbage is just so much work |
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| [23:20:00] | dev-: | make -DWITH_SSL == bsd ; USE="openssl" make |
| [23:20:00] | dev-: | same kinda thing |
| [23:20:00] | dev-: | flexibile++ |
| [23:20:00] | dev-: | flexible too |
| [23:20:00] | Roman: | Is there a card that I can put in my pc that will allow me to receive UK SKY free to air tv channels? |
| [23:20:00] | xanderp: | i like that gentoo is built for MY hardware, and if i don't happen to have any USB or whatever, my software doesn't have to include support for it... (smaller, faster, better!) |
| [23:21:00] | ** xanderp is blasting the redhat install that I started... Back to Gentoo... ** | |
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| [23:25:00] | xanderp: | dev-: I have a question for you... if i install gentoo from the 2005.0 or whatever media... then do a full emerge --update --deep --newuse world on that, will I end up with the same as installing a 2005.1, or 2005.1-r1 or whatever the current is? or do i have to install from that media to get it? |
| [23:25:00] | dev-: | yeah |
| [23:25:00] | dev-: | to the first part |
| [23:25:00] | xanderp: | i thought so, but wasn't sure |
| [23:26:00] | ** xanderp is kicking himself for not imaging box before blasting the system... ** | |
| [23:26:00] | \Grooby\_: | mythbackend using xen |
| [23:26:00] | \Grooby\_: | hmmmmm |
| [23:26:00] | \Grooby\_: | j/k |
| [23:27:00] | dev-: | xanderp: especially on epia, that thing will take forever to emerge myth hehe |
| [23:27:00] | xanderp: | forever to emerge ANYTHING... and when i've tried to distcc stuff it always is broken |
| [23:28:00] | xanderp: | the only thing i don't like about gentoo is the lack of a wizard to walk me through the install... the TOTAL manual install gets old after about the 6th machine... |
| [23:28:00] | \Grooby\_: | xanderp, you should get the 2005.1 after -uD world |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | or however the newest |
| [23:29:00] | dev-: | thats what he said |
| [23:29:00] | dev-: | ;p |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | ok |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | i thought he was asking |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | i'm retarded |
| [23:29:00] | dev-: | -uD is just shorthand for --update --deep ;p |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | back to james bond |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | yeah |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | i know |
| [23:29:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [23:30:00] | xanderp: | no, gutting a gentoo box running on an epia is retarded... i've got days of work ahead of me. :( |
| [23:30:00] | \Grooby\_: | <--- bootstrapping right now |
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| [23:30:00] | \Grooby\_: | boobstrapping...hmmmmm |
| [23:30:00] | \Grooby\_: | bond style |
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| [23:31:00] | xanderp: | isn't there a gentoo script to do the install from? (aughH!!!) |
| [23:31:00] | dev-: | yeah, tar |
| [23:31:00] | dev-: | ;P |
| [23:31:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [23:31:00] | dev-: | sorry i coudnt resist |
| [23:31:00] | dev-: | thats really all it is with a stage3 install hehe |
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| [23:31:00] | xanderp: | all the chroot'ing and stuff is tedious |
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| [23:32:00] | xanderp: | dev-: you stage1? |
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| [23:32:00] | \Grooby\_: | you know they took out stage 1 and 2 from the handbooks now? |
| [23:32:00] | dev-: | xanderp: nah, i want my boxes up quick so i do stage3 |
| [23:32:00] | dev-: | i did stage1 the first time just because i didnt use linux in so long i needed a refresher |
| [23:32:00] | xanderp: | dev-: maybe i'll do that this time... |
| [23:32:00] | dev-: | yeah they took out 1 and 2, only include 3 now |
| [23:33:00] | dev-: | xanderp: there is really nothing gained from doing with 1/2 other than knowledge |
| [23:33:00] | dev-: | s/doing/going |
| [23:34:00] | xanderp: | the only problem is that i have to 'tinker' to do stage3 to install current (wget current stuff from the web, as i don't have 2005.1 CD) |
| [23:34:00] | dev-: | use mirror.datapipe.net |
| [23:34:00] | dev-: | good, fast mirror |
| [23:34:00] | dev-: | has stages on it |
| [23:35:00] | xanderp: | will try it, thanks |
| [23:35:00] | dev-: | np |
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| [23:35:00] | dev-: | you cant use it syncing portage, because that was turned off due to ram problems unfortunately. but you can use it as a download mirror |
| [23:35:00] | dev-: | maxes out my cable everytime at 10mbit hehe |
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| [23:36:00] | xanderp: | for the epiaM10000 should i use pentium3? |
| [23:37:00] | \Grooby\_: | i read on wiki and forum to use 586 |
| [23:38:00] | xanderp: | dev-: you agree with \Grooby\_ on that? |
| [23:39:00] | dev-: | yup yup |
| [23:39:00] | xanderp: | 586=p4? |
| [23:40:00] | dev-: | thats what i used, didnt have any problems. got it from the wiki too |
| [23:40:00] | xanderp: | i'm seeing pentium3 pentium4 x86 and i686... is pentium4 the same as 586? |
| [23:40:00] | \Grooby\_: | I love taco bell and their uncooked taco |
| [23:40:00] | \Grooby\_: | sigh |
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| [23:45:00] | xanderp: | dev-: do you know if that datapipe site has a full mirror? the 2005.1-r1 universal iso seems a 'bit small' |
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| [23:46:00] | dev-: | yeah, you can set GENTOO_MIRRORS to http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo |
| [23:46:00] | dev-: | its in the official list, im not tellin ya to use some crazy thing that i setup in my basement |
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| [23:46:00] | dev-: | hehe.. |
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| [23:47:00] | xanderp: | just looks like the universal cd has shrunk considerably from 2005.1 to 2005.1-r1 |
| [23:47:00] | dev-: | no stage1/2's |
| [23:47:00] | xanderp: | ahh |
| [23:47:00] | xanderp: | gotcha |
| [23:47:00] | dev-: | 'trimmed' you could say =] |
| [23:48:00] | xanderp: | WOW from 697'ish down to 398'ish megs... nice |
| [23:50:00] | xanderp: | hey, i can fit it on my CHEAPO 74min cd's again... instead of the more $$ 80min ones... |
| [23:50:00] | dev-: | i have some oldass 74min cds too |
| [23:51:00] | dev-: | found them in a box with the christmas crapp. must have thrown them in there when we moved into this new apartment heh |
| [23:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | how's the EPIA and HD stuff? |
| [23:51:00] | dev-: | cant do it |
| [23:51:00] | dev-: | you need 2.4ghz min for hD playback |
| [23:51:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [23:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | so not eveno 1.3 with xv? |
| [23:51:00] | dev-: | according to conversations in here, nope, 2.4ghz MIN heh |
| [23:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | oops |
| [23:51:00] | \Grooby\_: | ok |
| [23:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | oh well |
| [23:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [23:52:00] | dev-: | i havent done hd yet.. but i plan on it in the future. |
| [23:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehehe |
| [23:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | just curious |
| [23:52:00] | dev-: | its a beast though. 9.4gig/hr, 2.4ghz min on the frontend for playback |
| [23:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | i don't even own a mini-itx board |
| [23:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol |
| [23:52:00] | \Grooby\_: | but being eyeing one |
| [23:53:00] | dev-: | right now im doing 2.4gig an hour.. so for that upgrade, need like 3x400 gig in raid5 hehe |
| [23:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehe |
| [23:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | transcode it |
| [23:53:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [23:53:00] | dev-: | i played but just couldnt find the right mixture of quality/space saving.. im pretty video anal even though i dont have hd |
| [23:54:00] | ** xanderp finally got tired of grabbing the spindle of 'no lable' dvd's when i wanted the 'no lable' cd's... a little sharpie magic on the spindle case and "problem solved" (why did it take me 6 months to do?) ** | |
| [23:54:00] | dev-: | so if i can see any pixelsation i get pissed etc |
| [23:54:00] | \Grooby\_: | i see |
| [23:54:00] | dev-: | plus with commercial flagging, too much cpu was being used |
| [23:54:00] | \Grooby\_: | dev, you need eye surgery |
| [23:54:00] | dev-: | the woman records so much crap that at least 1 commflag job is always going |
| [23:54:00] | \Grooby\_: | to bring your eyes to 100/20 |
| [23:54:00] | dev-: | lol |
| [23:54:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehe |
| [23:54:00] | \Grooby\_: | natural filter |
| [23:55:00] | dev-: | shes the one that made me add a 3rd tuner |
| [23:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | everything's all blurred |
| [23:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | hahahaha |
| [23:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | i know what you mean |
| [23:55:00] | xanderp: | dev-: record her crap at 'low quality' :) |
| [23:55:00] | dev-: | haha |
| [23:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | my gf always talks crap about my mythtv sayiing it crashes and stuff (even tho it never really crash) |
| [23:55:00] | \Grooby\_: | and now I am redoing it, she is cracking her whip trying to get me set it backup faster |
| [23:56:00] | dev-: | yeah thats how they are, once you take it away all hell breaks loose |
| [23:56:00] | xanderp: | dev-: like she cares if her 'gilmore girls' is blocky... |
| [23:57:00] | xanderp: | my cable went to crap today... looked like i was using rabbit ears out in the boonies... |
| [23:57:00] | xanderp: | 62% downloaded Universal 2005.1-r1 :) |
| [23:59:00] | xanderp: | dev-: you said you have epiaM10k right? are you using spdif out? |
| [23:59:00] | dev-: | technically i dont have one, i set one up for a friend of mine to use |
| [23:59:00] | xanderp: | ahh spdif? |
| [23:59:00] | dev-: | but i will have one sooner or later, as another frontend |
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