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    datetime:  2010-12-03 10:17:18 (UTC)
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Wednesday, November 23rd, 2005, 00:00 UTC
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[00:01:00] Eddie: Some other dudes talk about deleting the channel source but that sounds a little much.
[00:01:00] DeltaF: I don't know about internals at all.. I'm pretty much guessing blindly.
[00:03:00] MarineTim: kleevah: no.
[00:03:00] Eddie: Yeah, I'm guessing as well...thanks for the assistance, though.
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[00:04:00] Kleevah: MarineTim: :(
[00:05:00] Kleevah: any reason why the knoppmyth autoinstaller would only give me 300 inodes on /myth?
[00:07:00] simon_c_home: Hi All. If I have an mpeg4 encoded recording, with some cut lists, will transcoding with the same settings as the origanal recording re-encode the entire stream, or will it just cut out the bits I've told it to in the cut list ?
[00:07:00] MarineTim: how big is the partition?
[00:08:00] Juski: I'll be damned. I can't get these arrows to line up in the mythvideo 'list view'
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[00:10:00] Kleevah: MarineTim: 1,3 GB, 3% used
[00:10:00] Kleevah: its a 6 GB drive
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[00:14:00] MarineTim: kleevah: yeah, knopp is probably using a low byte per inode value.  :(
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[00:15:00] Kleevah: :\
[00:16:00] Kleevah: guess ill just reinstall using manual settings
[00:16:00] Kleevah: hopefully there is an option for it there
[00:16:00] MarineTim: but doesn't knoppmyth set up a cache partition? so he most it _should_ need is room for 1 file per card for multiple ringbuffers
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[00:16:00] MarineTim: (i don't use knoppmyth, so I'm no help there)
[00:17:00] Kleevah: it has a /cache yeah
[00:17:00] Kleevah: but that has plenty of both room and inodes
[00:17:00] MarineTim: nm then.  ;)
[00:18:00] Kleevah: heh, anyways, gotta run
[00:18:00] Kleevah: thanks for the help
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[00:26:00] simon_c_home: Hi All. If I have an mpeg4 encoded recording, with some cut lists, will transcoding with the same settings as the origanal recording re-encode the entire stream, or will it just cut out the bits I've told it to in the cut list ?
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[00:42:00] black_Nightmare: hey
[00:46:00] Orfeous: hey
[00:47:00] black_Nightmare: whats going on orfeous?
[00:48:00] chkno: How does one get xawtv to go fullscreen? I've tried all combinations of -f, and -vm, and even tried xrandr -s 640x480 ; xawtv ; xrandr -s 1024x768. When in 1024x768, I get a centered little 640x480 window. When I or it switches to 640x480, it's half off the screen — http://chkno.net/xawtv-fullscreen.png . I've tried playing with its window gravity, and I tried wm-off-by.
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[00:50:00] chkno: (Myth works great, but I need xawtv for realtime use with a gaming console.)
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[00:56:00] homer: so who here has $30,000 audio cables?
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[00:59:00] Juski: heh. why do you ask, homer?
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[00:59:00] Faithful: How do I get myth to control the volume on a soundblaster live when I am running in 5.1?
[00:59:00] Juski: or is that a dig at the metaquestions often seen in here?
[01:00:00] Juski: Faithful... you don't
[01:00:00] Juski: not on a digital output AFAIK
[01:00:00] Faithful: Hmmm... sad
[01:00:00] Faithful: not digital
[01:00:00] Faithful: 5.1 analog
[01:01:00] Faithful: but there is NO master control in alsa
[01:01:00] Juski: really?
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[01:02:00] Juski: might be driver dependent then
[01:03:00] Faithful: I have to go into a console and adjust... then the only "master" is the volume know on the speakers
[01:05:00] Juski: you _could_ always just use the amp's control with a one-for-all type remote like I do
[01:05:00] homer: i was reading audiophile websites
[01:05:00] homer: I'm scared and confused
[01:06:00] Juski: heheh... there's one thing to say about $30,000 audio cables... fools & their money are easily parted
[01:06:00] homer: what about the $1500 audio cables? mid range! :D
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[01:07:00] Juski: ffs...
[01:07:00] Chutt: naw
[01:07:00] Chutt: you need to get the 5 grand power cord
[01:07:00] Juski: I think once you go past $100 you'll never know any different apart from not having money to spend on music
[01:07:00] homer: yeah I saw that
[01:07:00] homer: $5,000 3' power cord
[01:08:00] Juski: gold plated, double-screened... etc etc etc
[01:08:00] Chutt: or the pieces of wood to put under your components
[01:08:00] homer: $250 each
[01:08:00] Chutt: to stop vibrations, ya know
[01:08:00] homer: they are coated by propertary solutions
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[01:08:00] Chutt: ooh, how about gold plated optical cables!
[01:08:00] Juski: thing is when you go to that kind of extreme, little things like flies coming in & stamping their feet will ruin it all
[01:09:00] homer: replacement knobs for amplifies
[01:09:00] homer: reduce friction and vibrations
[01:09:00] Chutt: gotta get new power service for everything, too
[01:09:00] Chutt: can't run the amp on anything near the same line as the fridge
[01:09:00] homer: yeah the power has to be set at 60Hz with a variation of less then 1Nz
[01:10:00] homer: if the power freq is over the sound comes out too yellow
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[01:11:00] Juski: yeh the last thing you need is coloration caused by dicky power
[01:13:00] homer: heh I can get 80% off the retail cost of monster and AR cables :o you guys don't want to know what the typical markup on cables are
[01:18:00] Juski: aha! I've got a solution to the arrow alignment issue
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[01:21:00] opello: homer: i got a 20' svideo cable that retails for $30, for $5 ... the markup is quite high :)
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[01:35:00] frox: i was messing around with mplayer and now mythtv's recordings are something like 22k
[01:35:00] frox: not the 2.2gb they were before, any idea's why it might be doing it?
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[01:44:00] DarkBeer: because you were messing around with mplayer? ;)
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[01:53:00] frox: darkbeer, is mythtv dependant on mplayer for recording?
[01:55:00] GreyFoxx: No, doesn't use mplayer for recording or recordings playback
[01:56:00] frox: greyfoxx, so it really shouldn't make any difference if i was messing around with it correcT?
[01:57:00] GreyFoxx: if all you were using was mplayer I wouldn't expect it to have any effect on the recordings
[01:57:00] frox: so what does take care doing the recording for mythtv?
[01:57:00] GreyFoxx: mythbackend
[01:57:00] frox: hmm.. don't think i changed anything with that
[01:58:00] Agrajag-: if mplayer had the device open while the recording was supposed to happen and mythbackend couldn't open it then it wouldn't record
[01:58:00] GreyFoxx: true enough
[01:59:00] frox: hmm.. that could be possible
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[02:00:00] Aneurysm9: Anyone know why my recordings that are transcoded from MPEG2 to MPEG4 have this nastiness at the bottom that looks like it's lagged by about 15–20 frames?
[02:00:00] cyberconte: is there an accepted interval for running mythfilldatabase --refresh-today (beyond the 1-day reccomendation for mythfilldatabase)
[02:01:00] GreyFoxx: There should be no reason to run it more than once a day unless of course you are messing around with your video sources or clearing the program info for some reason
[02:01:00] frox: in mythweb it says file size "B"
[02:03:00] frox: any ideas what might cause that?
[02:03:00] GreyFoxx: if the file is 0 bytes in size ?
[02:04:00] cyberconte: so there aren't inter-day updates from the zap2it servers?
[02:04:00] GreyFoxx: nope
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[02:05:00] GreyFoxx: It's certainly possible, It's there data and of course they could update it every 10 minutes if they wanted
[02:05:00] GreyFoxx: Just time mythfilldatabase to run
[02:05:00] GreyFoxx: "close" to when m,ost of your recordings occur
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[02:06:00] GreyFoxx: so if 99% of your recordings are from 7pm-11pm, just run mythfilldatabase at 5 or 6pm
[02:06:00] GreyFoxx: odds of something changing in that short time period after is not very likely
[02:07:00] frox: greyfoxx, filesize is 25k
[02:07:00] frox: i mean 24k, sorry
[02:07:00] ** Juski is done theming for tonight **
[02:08:00] GreyFoxx: Juski: I'm in the middle of it myself :)
[02:08:00] Juski: oh not you aswell!
[02:08:00] Juski: mine not good enough for you? ;)
[02:08:00] GreyFoxx: I think the "color" tag in the OSD elements is a little misleading. It should be called "grayscale" as it seems to only range from black -> grey -> white
[02:08:00] GreyFoxx: I use my own theme :)
[02:09:00] GreyFoxx: I'm working on a new OSD similar to what Bryan made a mockup of
[02:09:00] GreyFoxx: not identical but very similar
[02:09:00] Juski: actually I still have to investigate the new buttons & stuff for SVN
[02:09:00] Juski: so that'll mean me grabbing SVN & powering up my spare box
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[02:10:00] GreyFoxx: heh
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[02:11:00] Juski: those arrows in the list selector box of mythvideo were buggers to sort out
[02:11:00] Juski: nailed it now with a graphical workaround
[02:11:00] GreyFoxx: I seem to remember it was a pain when I did it
[02:11:00] Juski: I think I know why though
[02:11:00] Juski: the placement is hard-coded I think
[02:12:00] Juski: probably not worth looking into for the current UI code though
[02:13:00] GreyFoxx: Yeah,
[02:13:00] Juski: this is what you get for starting out with someone else's theme anyway
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[02:14:00] Juski: and with that, I must go to bed. Night y'all
[02:14:00] GreyFoxx: night
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[02:22:00] RazorJack: Getting ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x40446472!
[02:22:00] RazorJack: anybody know what that means... black video
[02:22:00] RazorJack: when I run mythtv
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[02:45:00] purplefrog: I'm searching for the key that lets me switch my recordings listing to a different group. What keywords should I search on?
[02:46:00] purplefrog: stupid case-sensitive / search in less.
[02:46:00] purplefrog: It's M.
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[03:17:00] IA-Outdoors: so if lirc is working shouldn't I have something like /dev/lirc0?
[03:18:00] IA-Outdoors: ...because I don't
[03:18:00] Agrajag-: check logs. make sure you're loading the correct module
[03:20:00] IA-Outdoors: Agrajag-: am I suppose to modprobe first?
[03:20:00] IA-Outdoors: howto said to simply stat lircd
[03:20:00] IA-Outdoors: stat=start
[03:21:00] IA-Outdoors: is logs I have "Nov 23 03:35:28 myth lircd-0.7.2[1428]: lircd(hauppauge) ready"
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[03:21:00] Agrajag-: run irw and see if it connects
[03:21:00] Weezey: anyone using a pvr350 on fc4? I can't get it to set the ivtvctl options on boot.
[03:21:00] IA-Outdoors: not sure what irw is suppose to do but it simply returns me back to a prompt
[03:22:00] Agrajag-: ok, i think you'll find lircd is now not running and that it said that it couldn't find the device
[03:22:00] Weezey: IA-Outdoors: I had that, I had to do this: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php?SID& . . . ut=open#lirc read the UPDATE part
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[03:24:00] Agrajag-: IA-Outdoors: modprobe the correct lirc_* module, then start lircd, then try irw again (shouldn't quit straight away)
[03:27:00] IA-Outdoors: Agrajag-: how do I know which module is right? I have a pvr-250
[03:27:00] Agrajag-: no idea i dont have a pvr-xxx card
[03:27:00] IA-Outdoors: and now I get this in the logs:
[03:28:00] IA-Outdoors: default_init: No such file or directory /dev/lirc0
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[03:28:00] feld: got a question — does commercial skip function after you transcode?
[03:29:00] IA-Outdoors: k, getting somehwere
[03:29:00] IA-Outdoors: now I get "connection refused" when I run irw
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[03:31:00] Agrajag-: IA-Outdoors: fix permissions of your lirc device
[03:31:00] IA-Outdoors: Agrajag-: uh, how?
[03:31:00] IA-Outdoors: is there something I should ls -l on first to double check?
[03:35:00] Agrajag-: yeah the permissions
[03:35:00] IA-Outdoors: on what?
[03:36:00] Agrajag-: on your lirc device
[03:36:00] Agrajag-: oh hang on. if it's irw that's giving you connection refused, then lircd probably isn't running
[03:36:00] Hackel: For some reason my crappy bt878 resets to lang1 audio channel each time I change channels. Anyone heard of this before? I have to set it back to stereo manually with v4lctl to hear that audio.
[03:37:00] IA-Outdoors: Agrajag-: yeah it's irw giving me that
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[03:38:00] geoff_: feld: you have to rerun comflag after transcoding
[03:39:00] Orfeous: how do i patch my kernel with a patch?
[03:39:00] Orfeous: DVB-2.6.13.patch
[03:40:00] Hackel: Orfeous: if you don't know, it's probably not something you should be trying! man patch
[03:40:00] geoff_: usually copy the patch to the root kernel dir the patch -p0 < DVB-2.6.13.patch
[03:45:00] Orfeous: geoff_: ok, thanks
[03:46:00] Orfeous: can't find file to patch at input line 3
[03:46:00] Orfeous: Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[03:47:00] geoff_: try p1 ?
[03:47:00] geoff_: or man patch ;)
[03:47:00] Orfeous: worked much better with -p1
[03:47:00] ** IA-Outdoors sighs **
[03:47:00] IA-Outdoors: all this to get the f'n remote working
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[03:48:00] geoff_: IA-Outdoors: You just need to find someone to sit next to the keyboard
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[03:50:00] Orfeous: try to reboot..
[03:50:00] Orfeous: brb
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[03:50:00] IA-Outdoors: geoff_: this shouldn't be this f'n hard
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[03:51:00] IA-Outdoors: for whatever reason under my Gentoo build the /dev/lirc0 device never gets created
[03:51:00] geoff_: what kernel?
[03:55:00] IA-Outdoors: geoff_: 2.6.13
[03:57:00] geoff_: I think devfs is depriciated... are you using udev?
[03:58:00] geoff_: udev should create everything for you if you have the modules loaded right
[03:58:00] IA-Outdoors: yeah udev
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[04:00:00] geoff_: so you have the lirc mods loaded
[04:00:00] geoff_: and what happens when you staret lircd
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[04:01:00] Servo888: Is there any way to increase the speed of channel changing?
[04:01:00] geoff_: From the lirc website: "When using sysfs together with the udev daemon you should copy the lirc.rules file located in the contrib directory of the source package to /etc/udev/rules.d/. This will make sure that the device node will be created."
[04:03:00] IA-Outdoors: geoff_: init.d acts like it works, no errors in /var/log/messages but no device
[04:03:00] IA-Outdoors: so what do I need to remove sysfs?
[04:03:00] geoff_: no, I don't think so
[04:03:00] geoff_: so what do you get with sudo lircd -n
[04:03:00] geoff_: (-n makes it not go into deamon mode)
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[04:05:00] Orfeous: Agrajag-: got some new errors after patching kernel ;)
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[04:28:00] Kury: Anyone know if there is a mythtv like interface but for dedicated mp3/music machines?
[04:29:00] Kury: Hello?
[04:29:00] Agrajag-: hi, what are you talking about?
[04:30:00] Kury: I was wondering how well mythtv works as just a dedicated mp3 player interface for the TV? or if there was a similar project for this?
[04:30:00] xris: mythmusic?
[04:30:00] Kury: is there such a thing?
[04:31:00] xris: Kury: yeah. it's a plugin. but you still sort of need the core mythtv stuff
[04:31:00] Kury: is it very user friendly though? or is it just a sorta OK add on that works if you have to do it that way?
[04:32:00] Kury: I'm looking for a clean friendly.. usable TV/remote(keyboardless) way to control a machine for music playback..
[04:32:00] Kury: something sorta like a ipod interface I suppose?
[04:34:00] Kury: ?
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[04:38:00] a1fa|64: hi good people
[04:39:00] a1fa|64: i still havent fixed the blank screen error
[04:40:00] xris: Kury: it's not as clean as an ipod.. mainly because an ipod has itunes to configure it.
[04:40:00] xris: managing playlists on a small screen like a tv is imho annoying.
[04:41:00] xris: if you want something like that, check out the squeezebox from slim devices.
[04:43:00] a1fa|64: i dont think xinit executes .xinitrc
[04:44:00] feld: geoff_: how do i rerun comflag after transcoding?
[04:48:00] geoff_: you can start it from the menu
[04:48:00] geoff_: or you can set it up so transcoding always happens first
[04:49:00] feld: well i just set it up so my recording profile auto transodes
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[04:49:00] feld: and i set it up so it transcodes now before comm flag
[04:50:00] geoff_: that should work
[04:50:00] feld: but how do i re-comflag something that is already recorded and now transcoded
[04:50:00] feld: rm i just found it :P
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[04:51:00] geoff_: :)
[04:51:00] geoff_: you can also just call mythcommflag from the command line with no options and it will flag anything that is unflagged
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[04:53:00] a1fa|64: guys
[04:54:00] a1fa|64: xinit is not loading ~.xinitrc
[04:54:00] a1fa|64: -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 125 2005-11–22 22:52 .xinitrc
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[05:09:00] a1fa|64: fixed
[05:09:00] ** eiggirC wants to bitchslap this pvr-150 **
[05:09:00] a1fa|64: i whish i can get bootsplash working
[05:09:00] eiggirC: it won't tune channels
[05:09:00] eiggirC: :-\
[05:09:00] eiggirC: so I get 99 channels of high quality static
[05:10:00] a1fa|64: get a new firmware
[05:10:00] a1fa|64: make sure you set your cable settings right
[05:10:00] a1fa|64: i had the same problem
[05:10:00] a1fa|64: us-cable
[05:10:00] a1fa|64: for me
[05:10:00] eiggirC: a1fa|64: cheers – I'm in New Zealand, and its aerial input.
[05:10:00] eiggirC: need to spend some time concentrating
[05:11:00] a1fa|64: i think there is australia
[05:11:00] a1fa|64: :P
[05:11:00] a1fa|64: nz != au
[05:11:00] eiggirC: damn child processes hogging all my brain's CPU
[05:11:00] a1fa|64: i know i know
[05:11:00] eiggirC: a1fa|64: -grin-
[05:11:00] eiggirC: I have a EPG getter which appears to work
[05:12:00] a1fa|64: Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.0% id, 0.7% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si
[05:12:00] a1fa|64: Mem: 256572k total, 219212k used, 37360k free, 4560k buffers
[05:12:00] a1fa|64: Swap: 771080k total, 0k used, 771080k free, 95708k cached
[05:12:00] a1fa|64: lol
[05:12:00] a1fa|64: this bitch aint even using swap
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[05:14:00] simcop2387: w00t i'm in a hotel room on a laptop viewing my computer in my dorm room
[05:15:00] a1fa|64: ssh?
[05:15:00] a1fa|64: ;?
[05:15:00] simcop2387: vnc
[05:15:00] a1fa|64: ouch
[05:15:00] a1fa|64: i am sorry
[05:15:00] a1fa|64: ;(
[05:15:00] a1fa|64: vnc is so gay
[05:16:00] a1fa|64: too slow
[05:16:00] a1fa|64: hehe
[05:16:00] a1fa|64: i am going to sleep
[05:16:00] a1fa|64: gotta get u
[05:16:00] a1fa|64: get up early.. and i am on call. hopefully no body fucks up tonight
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[06:13:00] subbie: howdy, does anybody here happen to be using ubuntu and nuvexport?
[06:16:00] subbie: maybe i asked the wrong question, does anybody here use ubuntu and know how to change .nuv files into something like mpg or avi
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[06:29:00] dev-: no but i use windows!
[06:29:00] dev-: =p
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[06:52:00] tOOm: hm
[06:52:00] tOOm: 'change .nuv into .mpeg'
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[06:52:00] tOOm: how does that correlate to ubuntu?
[07:07:00] Dagmar: I think he is hoping that there's some ubuntu-specific way of doing it
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[07:43:00] xris: for anyone who wants a cheap "remote" for their mythbox... http://www.woot.com/
[07:45:00] tOOm: that looks exactly like the one i'm currently typing on
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[07:45:00] tOOm: except that i don't use the mouse which weighs about 2 tons
[07:45:00] Arcterex: evening all
[07:46:00] tOOm: the fact that i don't have a PS2 socket on my laptop might also be a reason for it :)
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[07:54:00] Arcterex: got a couple of questions about getting multiple tuners' sound going properly, hopefully someone can help me out...
[07:54:00] Arcterex: I have a pvr350 and a wintv-go setup and running, only thing remaining is that my set up for sound from watching live tv while recording isn't working.
[07:55:00] Arcterex: I followed the instructions pointed to on the list (http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html), and no go. The person on the list suggested that sound card out to amp, and pvr350 out to line in on sound card
[07:56:00] Arcterex: only thing is that I wasn't sure if they meant the pvr350 audio out as in the 2 rca cables from the video/audio out bundle
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[08:06:00] eiggirC: YAY! I got something from my PVR-150! (other than static)
[08:06:00] eiggirC: now to get a better aerial, and figure out why the channels are all disarranged
[08:08:00] Arcterex: wh00t
[08:08:00] ** Arcterex ponders if sound works out of the second capture card at all **
[08:08:00] Arcterex: anyone know how to check?
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[11:45:00] laga: re
[11:45:00] laga: hi juski
[11:46:00] juski: hi laga. how's it going?
[11:46:00] laga: juski: awesome. i've just got my driver's licence.
[11:46:00] juski: gonna release another version of the theme today at some point
[11:47:00] juski: congratulations!!!
[11:47:00] laga: juski: spiffy :) good to see someone working on themes
[11:47:00] laga: juski: thank you very much :)
[11:47:00] juski: that's all us motorists need – _another_ motorist on the roads ;)
[11:49:00] otwin: i think i'll stay away from german autobahns for some time ;-)
[11:49:00] juski: I did some tidying up – lining up arrows & things. And I found out the locations of some UI things are hard coded
[11:50:00] laga: otwin: would be better for your own safety ;)
[11:50:00] FrankTM: [12:45] <laga> re
[11:50:00] FrankTM: what does that acutally mean
[11:50:00] laga: juski: hard coded stuff sucks. ;)
[11:50:00] FrankTM: i see it alot :P
[11:51:00] laga: FrankTM: "I'm back'" ;)
[11:51:00] FrankTM: doh
[11:51:00] FrankTM: why "re"
[11:52:00] laga: prolly an abbreviation of "returned"
[11:55:00] FrankTM: mkay
[11:56:00] ** laga goes and cleans the car **
[11:57:00] FrankTM: lol
[11:57:00] FrankTM: hf :)
[12:02:00] [MUPPETS]Gonzo: Hello, I am looking for other "DVD Import Settings" as "good" makes a 1.4Gb file, which is too big for me. Where can I setup theese settings?
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[12:14:00] juski: ROFL: www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/23/ipod_accessory/
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[12:14:00] Piet: mornin.
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[12:33:00] juski: Gonzo: maybe there's a **settings** page where you can change dvd rip settings
[12:33:00] juski: ;)
[12:34:00] [MUPPETS]Gonzo: it is, but I did not find any settings about the quality
[12:35:00] juski: transcoding settings?
[12:36:00] [MUPPETS]Gonzo: in DVD Setup I have "General Settings" "Play Settings" "Rip Settings" – in "rip settings" I can only setup rip-stuff and the base transcode command
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[12:59:00] hari_seldon99: hi
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[13:01:00] hari_seldon99: My mythtv movie previews/pip's in small screen are a little messed up (everything's blue). I'm using tv-out on a 720X480 res 19" tv. I have no problem with small screen previews on remote frontends running on monitors
[13:02:00] hari_seldon99: could this be a driver problem or a config problem?
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[13:10:00] juski: hari_seldon99: are you talking about mythvideo's gallery function or the recorded programs mini preview videos?
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[13:22:00] juski: hari_seldon99: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/108584?
[13:23:00] GreyFoxx: Bleee
[13:24:00] juski: Hey GreyFoxx: I like your OSD mockups
[13:24:00] juski: anyhoo.. lunchbreak over
[13:24:00] juski: back to the Zzzz
[13:25:00] GreyFoxx: juski: Those aren't mockups :)
[13:25:00] GreyFoxx: those are screenshots of the real thing which is based off Bryans mockup :)
[13:26:00] GreyFoxx: I'm just setting up my laptop vmware session so that I can work on it there instead of on the "production" systems at home :)
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[13:27:00] GreyFoxx: Seems to me that I can't get italics to work (assuming the font I have set in the OSD settings has an italics option) nor figured out if I can insert carriage returns in an OSD text area
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[13:40:00] juski: GreyFoxx: any chance of making the OSD boxes rounded?
[13:43:00] GreyFoxx: That could certainly be option for the user :)
[13:43:00] GreyFoxx: the thing is that you have to take Overscan into account
[13:43:00] GreyFoxx: and the rounded edge might be off the screen
[13:43:00] GreyFoxx: with flat bars I don't care if the user doesn't see it :)
[13:44:00] juski: oh yeah.. it's not constrained by the ui
[13:44:00] GreyFoxx: When I work on mine I use the native 800x600 video mode with overscan at maximum to ensure I keep everything visible
[13:44:00] juski: I'm guessing then, that the OSD graphics are never scaled
[13:45:00] GreyFoxx: Man, it's tempting to do up graphical mini OSD theme editor
[13:45:00] GreyFoxx: juski: They can be.
[13:45:00] juski: just whizz up a theme editor while you're at it ;)
[13:45:00] GreyFoxx: set a static size for the image and it will be scaled up/..down to fit
[13:45:00] juski: and a dummy app so you don't have to quit/restart mythfrontend to see changes
[13:45:00] juski: and...
[13:45:00] juski: and..
[13:45:00] juski: lol
[13:46:00] GreyFoxx: juski: the editor would have it's own display window
[13:46:00] GreyFoxx: no need to run mythfrontend at all for that purpose
[13:46:00] GreyFoxx: (for the OSD that is)
[13:46:00] juski: true
[13:46:00] juski: I was jkoing btw
[13:46:00] juski: *joking even
[13:46:00] GreyFoxx: I've thought about it for a while
[13:46:00] GreyFoxx: but an OSD one is easier imho to do :)
[13:47:00] juski: sounds like it
[13:47:00] GreyFoxx: and with OSD's the theme is reloaded each time you start a video, so I just exit the video and replay to see my changes heh
[13:48:00] juski: lucky :)
[13:48:00] juski: my ESC key is almost worn out
[13:49:00] GreyFoxx: CTRL-C my boy
[13:49:00] GreyFoxx: I just kill it after I see what I want hehe
[13:50:00] juski: yeh I've started doing that
[13:52:00] juski: I've actually had a segfault when starting mythfrontend, but nothing I can reproducce – and the ratio of good startups to bad is easily 1000:1 – probably loads more
[13:52:00] Xenna: mine's in a bash loop, so I probably won't even notice ;)
[13:52:00] juski: but then maybe that was the fault of me or the OS anyway
[13:53:00] GreyFoxx: Cool. Just looked at Bryans shots of the OSD he's worked on, hopefully more people will start working on them :)
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[13:57:00] hari_seldon99: juski-> Thanks for the url. Sorry I took so long, was studying... I don't understand something in the forum. The penultimate poster says "add mmx to gentoo use variables and reemerge mplayer & mythfrontend". I'm using knoppmyth (debian) and am not using mplayer at all. Where are these "use variables" in Debian?
[13:57:00] juski: it's a compile-time thing, hari_seldon99
[13:57:00] hari_seldon99: so I have to recompile mythtv to fix this?
[13:57:00] juski: maybe
[13:58:00] hari_seldon99: dang
[13:58:00] juski: is it like there are gaps in the video preview or are the colours just wrong (false colours)?
[13:58:00] juski: I mean can you see the background behind the preview video?
[13:59:00] juski: erm.. I mean can you see the background _through_ the preview video?
[14:00:00] hari_seldon99: the colors are wrong (inverted like photo negative)
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[14:02:00] juski: so it's not a colorkey issue then..
[14:02:00] juski: I mean not a simple configuration fix
[14:02:00] hari_seldon99: doesn't look like it
[14:02:00] juski: which version of NOTmyth is it?
[14:03:00] hari_seldon99: 0.18.1
[14:03:00] juski: what video hardware?
[14:03:00] hari_seldon99: pvr 350+pvr150
[14:03:00] juski: I mean video card.. PVR350/Nvidia/what?
[14:03:00] hari_seldon99: using pvr350 tv-out for video
[14:03:00] juski: ahhh.. could be an ivtv issue then
[14:03:00] hari_seldon99: ok
[14:03:00] hari_seldon99: what to do?
[14:04:00] juski: turn off the preview video setting for now
[14:04:00] hari_seldon99: but what abt pip? I have the same prob there
[14:05:00] juski: ahhh .. good ole PiP...
[14:05:00] hari_seldon99: I have a screenshot (remotely logged into backend and ran mythfrontend) at http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/errors1.png)
[14:05:00] juski: there was quite a discussion about the future of PiP last night
[14:05:00] hari_seldon99: look at Laurie's face, it's all blue
[14:05:00] juski: don't get too attached to it
[14:06:00] hari_seldon99: :(
[14:06:00] hari_seldon99: reduces the WAF, eventho no W
[14:07:00] hari_seldon99: can I make the pip bigger?
[14:07:00] juski: that's hard-coded
[14:07:00] GreyFoxx: I don't think it's configurable
[14:07:00] GreyFoxx: That blue colored preview I've seen before
[14:07:00] juski: Hari: try making the view preview 'more CPU friendly' to see if that helps
[14:08:00] hari_seldon99: is that option in mythfrontend setup?
[14:08:00] juski: yep
[14:08:00] hari_seldon99: ok, hang on
[14:08:00] juski: I've seen it before too – and it was an mmx related problem
[14:09:00] juski: but we all know you can have different causes for symptoms ;)
[14:10:00] hari_seldon99: hey my 'cpu friendly preview" was already enabled??!??!
[14:10:00] GreyFoxx: IT's definately math related
[14:10:00] juski: hari: try disabling it then
[14:10:00] hari_seldon99: ok
[14:10:00] juski: maybe it's cpu friendly but not pvr350 friendly
[14:11:00] juski: short of recompiling there's not much you can do if that doesn't fix it
[14:12:00] hari_seldon99: er, nothing changed when I disabled cpu friendly, still blue. So it's a compilation thing eh?
[14:12:00] ** GreyFoxx wonders if that preview window is an xv window or not **
[14:12:00] hari_seldon99: how do I find out?
[14:13:00] juski: GreyFoxx: I just read that it used to be, but it was changed to a framebuffer window
[14:13:00] GreyFoxx: hari_seldon99: The code
[14:13:00] hari_seldon99: which code?
[14:13:00] juski: the source code
[14:14:00] GreyFoxx: I'm curious if it's related the to the \ivtv XV code, or just some match on mythtv's part when generating the window
[14:14:00] GreyFoxx: I was referring to myth's code
[14:14:00] hari_seldon99: I didn't compile it from source, I'm running knoppmyth, so it's canned
[14:14:00] GreyFoxx: So ?
[14:14:00] hari_seldon99: can't be sure how the makefiles were configged by the developers when they built it
[14:15:00] juski: I don't know how old the thing I just read about the previews being done in a framebuffer were
[14:15:00] GreyFoxx: that wont matter, IF you wanted to know if that preview window was XV based or not would still be in the code. You can safely assume that XV support was compiled in
[14:15:00] hari_seldon99: oh
[14:15:00] hari_seldon99: ok
[14:16:00] juski: try again in English... I read that the vid previews are done in a framebuffer now, but I don't know how old the post was
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[14:16:00] hari_seldon99: If I have to build mythtv from scratch to correct this, do I have to compile the whole suite or just the frontend and leave the rest as is
[14:16:00] hari_seldon99: ?
[14:17:00] GreyFoxx: I'd worry about finding out the cause before worrying about any possible ramifications for fixing it
[14:17:00] hari_seldon99: ok
[14:20:00] hari_seldon99: u know if I run mplayer -vo xv /dev/video1 and resize the window to a small size then it's fine
[14:21:00] hari_seldon99: I'm running this remotely
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[14:29:00] juski: hari_seldon99: have you tried the knoppmyth forums?
[14:29:00] hari_seldon99: not sure how to search for it there.
[14:29:00] hari_seldon99: enter "smurfy previews" in the search bar??
[14:34:00] juski: someone else with the same problem: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . ideo+preview
[14:34:00] juski: no solution though
[14:36:00] GreyFoxx: There, clones by main backend/frontend into a vmware session so I can do everything there
[14:36:00] GreyFoxx: err cloned my.
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[14:37:00] hari_seldon99: I guess I'll have to add "me too" and monitor the forum posts
[14:37:00] juski: hari_seldon99: you could also try searching mythtvtalk
[14:38:00] juski: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/
[14:38:00] hari_seldon99: yeah, goo didea
[14:38:00] hari_seldon99: I have the firefox toolbar
[14:38:00] juski: it might not be limited to the pvr350 ;)
[14:40:00] GreyFoxx: I see a similar issue with the preview window under OpenBSD
[14:41:00] GreyFoxx: I just haven't taken the time to track it down yet
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[14:46:00] fryfrog: mmm, maybe i can test teh HDTV via Communistcast today!
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[14:51:00] fryfrog: For some reason, my server's boot is *very* unreliable with 3x pci cards in it but perfectly fine with 2x
[14:51:00] fryfrog: Ie, with 3 cards in it and you hit power button, all the fans come on, drives spin up, but it won't boot
[14:51:00] fryfrog: no speaker beep, no monitor, etc
[14:52:00] fryfrog: sometimes if i turn it off, on, off, on in random combinations and durations... it'll eventually start
[14:52:00] fryfrog: but if i remove *one* of the 3 pci cards (doesn't matter which of the 3), it'll boot/reboot 100%
[14:53:00] fryfrog: i'd suspect power issues, but its got 7x SATA drives and a 450W psu... it seems highly unlikely that just *one* pci card would be throwing it over the edge
[14:56:00] Xenna: why don't you put 1 or 2 of the sata drives in an external firewire box?
[14:56:00] Xenna: stay well away from the edge
[14:56:00] juski: 7 drives and a '450W PSU'?
[14:56:00] juski: who is this '450W' PSU made by?
[14:56:00] Orfeous: juski: got a reply from mailinglist now ;)
[14:57:00] Xenna: some drives used to have a delayed spin up feature
[14:57:00] fryfrog: I picked a well rated, $100 450W PSU
[14:57:00] Xenna: where they wouldn't spin up on boot but not until accessed
[14:58:00] fryfrog: thats the odd thing
[14:58:00] fryfrog: usually when it *does* boot, its from a very cold boot
[14:58:00] Xenna: then you make the power spike lower
[14:58:00] fryfrog: the reset button doesn't do anything but cause the hd/cdrom lights to blink when hit
[14:59:00] fryfrog: i *should* try with 3x pci cards and -2x sata drives
[14:59:00] juski: Orfeous: cool
[14:59:00] fryfrog: see if that changes it
[14:59:00] juski: right.. reboot time
[14:59:00] fryfrog: i'm fairly sure though that its something weird with the motherboard, i've never run into a thing like this
[14:59:00] fryfrog: i've tried re-arranging the order of the cards, putting the 2x in different slots...
[15:00:00] fryfrog: but it *always* works with any 2 cards in any 2 slots, but not 3 cards
[15:00:00] fryfrog: and its just a PCI-E 6100 nivida card, so its not a power hungry gpu
[15:00:00] fryfrog: which wouldn't really show itself as an issue *at boot* anyway :/
[15:01:00]
[15:01:00] fryfrog: sure makes remote kernel upgrades suck :)
[15:02:00] fryfrog: even odder is that when it *does* boot with all 3 cards (just takes about 5min of on/off fiddling), they all work just fine
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[15:06:00] juski: 7HDDs spinning up at the same time can be quite a current draw. I've seen peaks of over 2 Amps on the 12V rail from one disk spinning up
[15:07:00] fryfrog: juski: i agree
[15:07:00] fryfrog: juski: but when it *does* work, its from a cold boot
[15:07:00] fryfrog: not a warm boot
[15:08:00] fryfrog: and by cold, i mean power disconnected for 1–2 minutes
[15:08:00] juski: shouldn't make any difference
[15:08:00] fryfrog: if it was a spin up issue, pressing the reset button should bring it online
[15:08:00] Dagmar: Sounds like the PSU is ready for the scrapheap
[15:08:00] fryfrog: its a brand new, $100 PSU
[15:09:00] Dagmar: Yowza. Try a different one
[15:09:00] fryfrog: its not ready for the scrap heap :)
[15:09:00] fryfrog: i can with great certainty say its not the PSU, i'll test with 2x drives removed to confirm it
[15:09:00] fryfrog: there just isn't any way that the current draw of *ONE* pci card would bump it over the edge
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[15:11:00] Dagmar: I used to say the same thing about *ONE* 80W inline amplifier that fit in a 5.25" bay
[15:11:00] fryfrog: "Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-450 ATX12V 450W Power Supply – Retail"
[15:12:00] fryfrog: 80W inline amplifier?
[15:12:00] juski: the total wattage is immaterial
[15:12:00] juski: it'
[15:12:00] juski: it's the _combined +5, +12V rail spec you should look at
[15:13:00] fryfrog: true, but Antec don't make shitty supplies like you find in a "450W" $30 case + psu :)
[15:13:00] fryfrog: +3.3V@32A, +5V@30A, +12V1@15A, +12V2@17A, -12V@0.3A, +5VSB@2A
[15:13:00] Dagmar: fryfrog: Yeah. I got what amounted to a speaker amp that someone pulled from refurbished NEC media PCs.
[15:13:00] Dagmar: It just had a set of four RCA outputs on the back, nice EQ thingie on the front, etc
[15:13:00] juski: what are the _combined_ ratings though?
[15:13:00] o_cee: anyone know how to fix stuff like this in mysql?
[15:13:00] o_cee: Database error was:
[15:13:00] o_cee: Can't open file: 'recordedprogram.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[15:13:00] Dagmar: ...which happened to be just enough to brutally murder my already taxed 300W PS
[15:14:00] fryfrog: sorry, i'm just looking at newegg. i'm at work, psu is at home
[15:14:00] Krazylegz: o_cee: Check permissions on that file?
[15:14:00] Dagmar: o_cee: I have a URL that may help... one sec while I google it
[15:14:00] Dagmar: ...provided it's just a database mangle
[15:14:00] o_cee: yeah probably is
[15:14:00] fryfrog: it could be a *motherboard* power handling issue
[15:14:00] o_cee: had to shut it down earlier
[15:14:00] fryfrog: i'll try removing a mb powered fan :/
[15:15:00] Dagmar: o_cee: check this directory http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/
[15:15:00] Dagmar: The optimize_mythdb.pl script basically runs the optimize and repair commands on the databases
[15:15:00] o_cee: Dagmar, allright, thanks alot
[15:15:00] Dagmar: So far it's managed to fix mine during nasty powerfail tests.
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[15:16:00] ExitMenu: Hi does anyone know if you can get a uk freuqency table for the ivtv tuner
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[15:18:00] juski: ExitMenu: BBC or OFCOM websites whould have all the frequency info
[15:18:00] juski: *should have, even
[15:18:00] fryfrog: wow, that optomize reduced my db size by 25mb
[15:18:00] fryfrog: also, there is an awsome hdtv script that i will <3
[15:18:00] fryfrog: thanks :)
[15:18:00] ExitMenu: kewl and if I tune the card when I cat /dev/video0 will I see the picture
[15:19:00] fryfrog: erm
[15:19:00] o_cee: Dagmar, think it fixed it, thanks :) knew chris had done something like that but never needed it
[15:19:00] fryfrog: if you *just* "cat /dev/video0" you'll see a bunch of crap on your screen
[15:20:00] fryfrog: i think something like "mplayer < /dev/video0" would yield some actual video?
[15:20:00] fryfrog: or "cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg" then play with your favorite .mpg player
[15:20:00] fryfrog: and by crap, i mean random ascii type chars
[15:22:00] ExitMenu: yeh sorry that was a dumb statmenet by me lol
[15:22:00] Dagmar: Wait... you know who runs forevermore>?
[15:22:00] Dagmar: OH!
[15:23:00] GreyFoxx: xris :)
[15:23:00] Dagmar: Duh. Sometimes I really overlook the obvious
[15:23:00] Dagmar: I have to give him his props in the dlg packages
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[15:27:00] GreyFoxx: LongLive VMWare and LongLive being unproductive at work! http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd-vmware.jpg
[15:27:00] GreyFoxx: Man, if only they paid me to play around with this stuff "officially" at work. I'd enjoy my job more :)
[15:35:00] fryfrog: is that vmware running myth *well*?
[15:35:00] GreyFoxx: yup,
[15:36:00] GreyFoxx: I do 99% of my dev stuff on it
[15:36:00] GreyFoxx: working audio and all
[15:37:00] fryfrog: neat
[15:39:00] GreyFoxx: I ssh in from my desktop, do all of the coding there and either export the display, or run it natively in the vmware screen. Very convienient
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[15:41:00] fryfrog: neat
[15:41:00] Dagmar: GreyFoxx: Nice. Hey do the channel icons tolerate any form of transparency?
[15:41:00] Dagmar: ...and you need to ditch that broken down TTF
[15:42:00] Dagmar: Those Luxi fonts are fairly cooked in places
[15:43:00] GreyFoxx: Dagmar: The transparency is right out of the image itself, so you would have to alter the image.
[15:43:00] Dagmar: The Bitstream fonts don't have such issues with the baselines of the text
[15:43:00] Dagmar: GreyFoxx: I've modified several of them already because the ones I got with the script looked awful
[15:43:00] ** GreyFoxx is currently looking at Tahoma and Verdana. Those screenshots are just FreeSans as they happen to be what I had installed **
[15:44:00] Dagmar: ...I just don't really want to see sickly hot purple appear if I'm wrong about whether or not they'll tolerate alpha channeled PNGs
[15:44:00] Dagmar: GreyFoxx: The Bitstream fonts have a better licence
[15:45:00] Dagmar: The way you can "redistribute" Verdana currently is nasty, and Tahoma really isn't possible without Wine
[15:45:00] GreyFoxx: Dagmar: Got a link to the bitstream fonts? I'll take a look
[15:46:00] Dagmar: GreyFoxx: They're the *good* ones that come with X now
[15:46:00] GreyFoxx: For the most part that is all user driven as the user picks the font used in the myth menus
[15:46:00] Dagmar: Bitstream Vera Sans and so forth
[15:46:00] GreyFoxx: as long as the font appears under the themes directory the user can pick it
[15:47:00] Dagmar: Yeah, I copied the bitstream ones (and a few silly ones) into mine the first evening
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[15:49:00] GreyFoxx: I like the look of Tahoma on here, more "crisp" looking
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[15:50:00] qfour20: good morning myth mavens... I have a few questions about lirc setups with myth
[15:51:00] GreyFoxx: But Vera.ttf is nice too. Just gotta make the time space a few pixels larger
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[15:51:00] qfour20: is it possible to use the remote port on the happauge pvr250 to control another device? eg: i have a satellite box that I need to send commands to.
[15:51:00] GreyFoxx: qfour, no It's a receiver only
[15:52:00] qfour20: darn... so I'm gonna have to wire up a serial port. ok.
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[15:57:00] GreyFoxx: Too bad you can't mix fonts. All of the fonts I've looked at have the italics version in a seperate ttf file so I can't use it
[15:58:00] qfour20: GreyFoxx, what kernel version are you using for your myth box?
[16:04:00] GreyFoxx: ummmm 2.6.12.5 on the master backend, 2.6.13.3 on the slave and I can't remember off hand what on the frontends. likely 2.6.12.5 on those as well
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[16:08:00] Dagmar: I kinda wish Myth used xft
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[16:15:00] qfour20: thx greyfoxx. I think i'm gonna go for 2.6.13 myself (backend and frontend on same box, for now)
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[16:25:00] fryfrog: 2.6.13 is SOOOO last week! :)
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[16:26:00] mchou: haha!! This is great: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5024153
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[16:28:00] o_cee: ooh, i'm in Jarod's mythtv guide, didn't know that :)
[16:29:00] fryfrog: hey, mythtv has a good chapter in "Linux Toys II"
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[16:32:00] GreyFoxx: Yes! you CAN mixfonts
[16:32:00] GreyFoxx: the <italics> tags had no effect, but you can specify a specific filename in each of the <font> elements
[16:32:00] GreyFoxx: to override the default
[16:33:00] GreyFoxx: hurray for combing the source code
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[16:35:00] GreyFoxx: Sweet, this opens more a lot more possibilities.
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[16:39:00] Dagmar: I didn't realize that's what you were looking fo
[16:40:00] Dagmar: The first thing I did was to eyeball all the xml files from all the other themes
[16:40:00] o_cee: the new osd themes on -dev? looks nice, like the small seek window
[16:40:00] GreyFoxx: I was looking through other osd themes only, since they are parsed differently
[16:40:00] o_cee: haven't tried it yet
[16:41:00] o_cee: there's also "basefont" or whatever it's named in the full themes
[16:41:00] o_cee: very useful
[16:41:00] GreyFoxx: o_cee yeah, a couple of us are working on different ones. the <italics> and <bold> tags were having no effect since the fonts I had for the base had non of those included with it, but overriding with the <filename> tag lets me fix and match fonts as I choose
[16:42:00] o_cee: nice, looking forward to the result ;) don't like the big channelnumber though, rest looked nice. fonts might be too small for some people i gues, but my tv should be big enough
[16:43:00] GreyFoxx: This is what I currently have now that I can pull in bold and italics fonts: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd6.jpg
[16:43:00] GreyFoxx: focusing on the programinfo and browse stuff first
[16:44:00] o_cee: looks nice. not a big fan of shadows on texts, but that's just me
[16:44:00] o_cee: the clock could be in a seperate part maybe
[16:44:00] Dagmar: Hey you have straight baselines now too
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[16:44:00] GreyFoxx: I considered moving it just to make it standout more
[16:45:00] GreyFoxx: Dagmar: Swapped over to Vera.ttf(and bold+italic)
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[16:45:00] o_cee: would be nice to be able to have a box that shows all of the description as well, but that's more changes involved ;)
[16:46:00] GreyFoxx: a second/3rd info screen. Position, Info, and Detailed Info
[16:46:00] GreyFoxx: which could include a lot of the program/original airdate/etc /etc
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[16:46:00] o_cee: yeah, like 70% of screenspace
[16:47:00] o_cee: we have loooong descs here sometimes, especially for movies and stuff
[16:47:00] GreyFoxx: yeah, would be nice to be able to popup the full set, either by default or by just hitting I an extra time to get a detailed page
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[16:49:00] Lightnin: afternoon
[16:49:00] johnp_: Does anyone know how to get svn to use a proxy ?
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[16:50:00] Lightnin: johnp_: i'm looking
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[16:51:00] Lightnin: i'm not sure it can do a proxy
[16:52:00] GreyFoxx: o_cee: This is almost the same frame without any shadows... I like the shadows better, they stand out better
[16:52:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd7.jpg
[16:52:00] o_cee: GreyFoxx, try a more opaque black outline on osd7
[16:52:00] o_cee: generally i like outlines betterm like the italic font has
[16:52:00] o_cee: but as i said, that's just me :)
[16:53:00] GreyFoxx: Hey, I'm willing to compare, I might like it as well
[16:53:00] o_cee: i mean a black ouline on the black box btw. might look nice
[16:53:00] GreyFoxx: so a "solid" black border of a few pixels around the edge of the transparent black background ? Hrm. Let me fire up gimp
[16:54:00] o_cee: yeah, exactly
[16:54:00] o_cee: or maybe a grdient that fades the edges to transparent
[16:54:00] o_cee: just some ideas :)
[16:55:00] rsdvd: Hi All ; are there any Homebrew Lirc/Electronics gurus around?
[16:56:00] fryfrog: date
[16:56:00] fryfrog: oops
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[17:01:00] GreyFoxx: o_cee: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd8.jpg 2 pixel black border
[17:02:00] juski: rsdvd: :)
[17:02:00] rsdvd: Hi Juski
[17:03:00] juski: what's up, rsdvd?
[17:03:00] rsdvd: I am still trying to find out whether any of the IR recievers in Maplins will work in a homebrew reciever
[17:03:00] juski: gimme the part number, rsdvd
[17:03:00] o_cee: GreyFoxx, looks good i think
[17:04:00] rsdvd: Infrared Detector E600STO (Murata)
[17:04:00] rsdvd: it's the only IR device with 3 legs
[17:05:00] juski: give me the Maplin part number, rsdvd
[17:05:00] rsdvd: maplin = UR69A
[17:07:00] juski: that's not an IR receiver
[17:07:00] juski: :(
[17:07:00] juski: it's like the things they put in PIR alarm sensors
[17:07:00] Lightnin: GreyFoxx: i like that 2 pixel border
[17:07:00] juski: rsdvd: do you have an RS trade counter near you?
[17:07:00] rsdvd: ok.....the only thing names reciver only has 2 legs...all the schemas I have seen have 3
[17:08:00] rsdvd: no....:-(
[17:08:00] GreyFoxx: Lightnin: The more I look at it, the more I like it as well
[17:08:00] juski: farnell?
[17:08:00] johnp_: Lightnin, ok thanks
[17:08:00] rsdvd: never heard of it
[17:09:00] juski: actually RS do free delivery I think
[17:09:00] o_cee: GreyFoxx, note that we over here don't really use/have those 3 letter abbrevations for all channels
[17:10:00] GreyFoxx: I have a couple that are 4 letters, but none larger or smaller
[17:10:00] juski: rsdvd: here's a suitable part, RS no. 577–897
[17:10:00] juski: GreyFoxx... see if you can fit the name 'Sky Sports News'
[17:11:00] rsdvd: don;t you need a trade account with them though
[17:11:00]
[17:11:00] juski: rsdvd: no
[17:11:00] GreyFoxx: For the channel Name? ok
[17:11:00] GreyFoxx: err the callsign I mean
[17:12:00] GreyFoxx: not likely without shrinking the font size or letting myth multiline it
[17:12:00] GreyFoxx: but I'll fire it back up and try
[17:13:00] juski: rsdvd: notts has an RS trade counter :)
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[17:13:00] ** juski scrabbles round on his desk **
[17:14:00] rsdvd: yeah...just noticed that.....but it is in the city ( I am in the sticks :-) )
[17:17:00] juski: time was, when Maplin would stock *useful* stuff, not all that gadgety shite they sell now
[17:18:00] rsdvd: LOL.....I noticed. when I was at school I used to live in Maplins (well it felt like it).......not i can;t finad anything there and I had to pay for a catalogue
[17:18:00] GreyFoxx: hehe all I fit was "sky" hehe :) but with slightly smaller font and moving the left edge over a few pixels + multiline I get this: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd9.jpg
[17:18:00] GreyFoxx: I'd realign the description text a bit of course
[17:20:00] rjune: GreyFoxx: you're up in canuckistan?
[17:20:00] juski: `well I found a Rabbitcore module on my desk, but no IR receivers
[17:20:00] GreyFoxx: rjune: Yes
[17:21:00] rsdvd: juski : what the hell is a rabbitcore ? sounds liek sometihng you eat :-)
[17:21:00] juski: it's a nifty little board with a CPU & network controller on it
[17:21:00] juski: lots of parallel & serial IO too
[17:22:00] rsdvd: sounds interesting
[17:22:00] juski: tiny aswell – 7cm x 5cm
[17:22:00] rsdvd: wow.....what do you use it for
[17:23:00] juski: erm...
[17:23:00] juski: interfacing our products to cash dispensing machines :D
[17:23:00] o_cee: GreyFoxx, looks good. what about "Animal Planer" or "Discovery Channel"?  :)
[17:24:00] o_cee: also i think the chanicon could be bigger instead, and make the channmbr a little smaller
[17:24:00] GreyFoxx: o_cee: I'll experiment with those later, I have to actually do some work now
[17:24:00] juski: we snoop on the X25 modem connection & pass it to a virtual terminal and .. oh dear I've said too much already
[17:24:00] o_cee: GreyFoxx, yep, ttyl
[17:24:00] GreyFoxx: I had the icon scaled up to 45x45 but that was a little much so I left it to the same res as the images of 30x30. I'm sure that will increase some
[17:26:00] o_cee: i do the logos for the swedish grabber, all are 100x100 :)
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[17:26:00] rsdvd: juski : LOL......can you get me some money out of one :-)
[17:26:00] GreyFoxx: nice.
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[17:26:00] o_cee: yeah, most of the channels let you have their eps if you ask nice, and since we're already getting data feeds from them it's not that hard.
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[17:30:00] rsdvd: Juski : is there a homebrew reciver design you would recommend.....before I order the stuff from RS?
[17:31:00] juski: rsdvd: the lirc one works
[17:31:00] juski: and there's one on the mini-itx.com site somewhere
[17:32:00] rsdvd: ok....thanks
[17:33:00] juski: www.mini-itx.com/hardware.asp :)
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[17:49:00] juski: rsdvd: actually the one on the mini-itx.com site gives you enough info to wire it to the internal serial port header ;)
[17:50:00] juski: GreyFoxx... it's lookin' good :)
[17:53:00] juski: not that it looked at all bad before
[17:54:00] fryfrog: Posted on May 16, 2004
[17:54:00] fryfrog: dang, thats some constantly updated content :)
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[17:59:00] juski: how long does it normally take for a domain name registration application to be processed?
[17:59:00] laga: juski: for .de domains, it takes 5m-1h. takes another 24 hours till all the dns servers know about it.
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[18:00:00] IA-Outdoors: is there a way to arbitrarily disable some of the myth menu items?
[18:00:00] laga: IA-Outdoors: the plugins, for example?
[18:00:00] IA-Outdoors: e.g. I have mythdvd and I play DVD's but will never import them. Can I make it so that menu item doesn't show up
[18:00:00] laga: yeah
[18:00:00] IA-Outdoors: (without having to write code)
[18:00:00] juski: ah right. cheers laga :)
[18:01:00] laga: edit the corresponding .xml file in /usr/share/mythtv/ – or even bette,r copy them to ~./mythtv/ before editing them
[18:01:00] laga: juski: :)
[18:01:00] IA-Outdoors: laga, excellent!
[18:01:00] IA-Outdoors: thing is I don't want wife trying sh*t that wasn't meant to work ;-)
[18:01:00] laga: hehe :)
[18:01:00] laga: good idea
[18:01:00] juski: editing theme xml files? god I'd never do that
[18:01:00] laga: juski: *snicker*
[18:02:00] juski: never _again_ anyway :P
[18:02:00] IA-Outdoors: juski: lol, well by day I'm a half-arsed programmer so I think I can manage
[18:02:00] IA-Outdoors: ...granted the option in question is obvious
[18:03:00] juski: naw – version 1.4 of Project Mayhem will be out later today
[18:03:00] juski: eeks..
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[18:03:00] juski: name stealage
[18:03:00] juski: Project Gryahem I meant
[18:03:00] juski: whatever
[18:03:00] IA-Outdoors: wtf is that?
[18:03:00] juski: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/
[18:04:00] juski: you can see why I needed a domain name
[18:04:00] juski: and why I need a webpage lol
[18:06:00] laga: did you actually buy a domain? nice ;)
[18:06:00] ** laga only has two domains: one for the german wiki and one for the Gf's website **
[18:07:00] ** bill2or3 has like 8 **
[18:07:00] bill2or3: blech.
[18:07:00] laga: hehe
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[18:08:00] laga: it's weird that the GF has a website while i only have a few blogs where i tried different software. i never could find the right CMS
[18:09:00] bill2or3: vi for life.
[18:09:00] bill2or3: :-)
[18:10:00] laga: writing HTML in an editor is so..umm...nineties
[18:10:00] bill2or3: it's all I know.
[18:10:00] bill2or3: I've never broken down and learned dreamweaver
[18:11:00] laga: i used dreamweaver a few times, but it's too expensive...
[18:11:00] laga: i did my first website in frontpage express when i was like 12. that sucked.
[18:11:00] laga: no, it wasn't frontpage, something that had "fusion" in his name
[18:12:00] laga: with a ~500kbyte .wav file of my voice saying "hello"
[18:13:00] GreyFoxx: ColdFusion ?
[18:13:00] bill2or3: blech
[18:13:00] laga: GreyFoxx: i think so.
[18:13:00] laga: bill2or3: hey, i was young. ;)
[18:13:00] ** GreyFoxx goes into an epileptic fit as he remembers all of the security issues he had to deal with due to users wanting Frontpage Extensions **
[18:13:00] ** laga snickers **
[18:14:00] ** bill2or3 twitches a little bit. **
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[18:25:00] juski: laga: might have been netobjects fusion
[18:26:00] juski: that thing makes pages that look like framed ones but it just iterates each 'frame' into a unique page, with its own copies (with different names) of the same graphics
[18:26:00] juski: truly horrible
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[18:46:00] juski: hometime :)
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[19:08:00] wout: I get an error that mythtv was "Unable to connect to database" error: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect
[19:09:00] wout: database error: can't connect to MySQL server on '127.0.0.1'
[19:09:00] wout: yesterday it worked :s
[19:09:00] wout: and i am sure that mysql is running
[19:10:00] GreyFoxx: are you sure it's listing on localhost ?
[19:10:00] GreyFoxx: possibly configured with "skip-networking" in the mysql config file ?
[19:10:00] wout: yes
[19:10:00] GreyFoxx: Or maybe it's configured to listen only on another IP ?
[19:12:00] wout: without skip-networking mysql won't start
[19:12:00] GreyFoxx: uhhhh
[19:13:00] GreyFoxx: what error does it give you ?
[19:13:00] GreyFoxx: cause skip-networking is certainly not a required option
[19:13:00] wout: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address
[19:13:00] GreyFoxx: That's it? No reason why?
[19:14:00] wout: but what error do you mean, from mysql or mythtv?
[19:14:00] GreyFoxx: MySQL
[19:14:00] wout: it also says: Do you allready have another mysqld server running on port:3306
[19:15:00] wout: but i haven't
[19:15:00] GreyFoxx: ok, first thing to check then. What if anything is currently bound to 3306
[19:15:00] ** Krazylegz enjoys the MySQL issues **
[19:15:00] GreyFoxx: netstat -antu | grep LISTEN | grep ":3306" netstat -antu | grep LISTEN | grep ":3306"
[19:15:00] GreyFoxx: Does that return anything ?
[19:15:00] Krazylegz: Haha!
[19:15:00] GreyFoxx: oops
[19:15:00] GreyFoxx: double pasty goodness
[19:16:00] wout: nope nothing
[19:16:00] GreyFoxx: wout : ok, netstat -antu | grep "3306"
[19:16:00] GreyFoxx: maybe a left over connection that hasn't timed out yet ?
[19:16:00] wout: still nothing
[19:17:00] wout: but running it on another port does not help
[19:17:00] bill2or3: tcp socket?
[19:17:00] bill2or3: maybe its not listening to a port at all.
[19:18:00] GreyFoxx: his error is with it failing to assign/bind to the port. You running some weird security extensions that wont let you bind to that port? Tried launching as root ?
[19:18:00] bill2or3: ahh.
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[19:18:00] wout: yes i ran it as root
[19:18:00] GreyFoxx: and the rest ?
[19:19:00] GreyFoxx: regarding some security extensions restricting what ports you can bind to ?
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[19:19:00] wout: no not at all
[19:19:00] wout: normally my mythtv-box isn't even connected to the internet
[19:21:00] GreyFoxx: If you have tried it has root, have no other process hanging on to the port, and no weird extensions blocking you I don't know what to suggest. Other than strace and see if you can see the exact failure
[19:21:00] wout: but is it really nessecary to have skip-networking uncommented?
[19:22:00] GreyFoxx: wout What has occurred since yesterday that caused it to not start ?
[19:22:00] wout: that's the weird part, really nothing
[19:22:00] GreyFoxx: wout, only if you want it to bind to port 3306. If it's all local unix sockets it might be fine. I've never used myth+mysql with skip-networking on :)
[19:23:00] GreyFoxx: "really nothing" != "nothing"
[19:23:00] GreyFoxx: something has obviously changed
[19:23:00] GreyFoxx: box rebooted, software upgrades, configuration changes, etc etc
[19:24:00] wout: the box was halted yesterday and did a fine boot today
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[19:24:00] GreyFoxx: Maybe a configuration change that was done a while back but enver took effect since the software wasn't restarted?
[19:24:00] wout: when i commend "skip-networking" mysql starts and from the commandline i can login
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[19:25:00] GreyFoxx: I don't know if myth will use unix sockets( like that commandline app does) or not
[19:25:00] laga: i believe that mythtv will work with sockets.
[19:26:00] laga: actually, it uses the mysql stuff in Qt
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: yes, I just mean that I have never attempted to use myth without mysql binding to a ip/port as well as unix sockets available
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[19:29:00] wout: oh i just found my mistake, how stupid could it be!?! solution: /etc/init.d/net.lo start
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: hah
[19:30:00] wout: i am so sorry to take your time for such stupid thing
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: No problem, at least you found it :)
[19:30:00] laga: rc-update add net.lo default :)
[19:33:00] wout: indeed!
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[21:05:00] r10: hi
[21:05:00] beavis: hi
[21:08:00] r10: I have a problem with mythtv and opengl, every time I try to run some opengl thing (music or gallery) then mythtv frezes, and uses 100% CPU. And I HAVE installed opengl and IT IS hardware accelerated. What is the problem, and how do I fix it ?
[21:12:00] EnterUserName: rm -rf /
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[21:58:00] Juski: blimey it's quiet here tonight. everyone's mythtv is working :)
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[21:59:00] rsdvd: Hiya Juski........just thinking about you :-)
[21:59:00] Juski: heheh I'm flatterred
[21:59:00] Juski: I was just thinking of...
[21:59:00] Juski: a quicker way to get screenshots onto my website
[21:59:00] tdb30_: is there a way to install mythtv with debian?
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[22:00:00] rsdvd: LOL......I an trying to put tegether an order at RS.....but they don;t do the Voltage Regualtor.....do you know any other that will do
[22:00:00] Juski: 78L05?
[22:00:00] Juski: course they do
[22:01:00] tdb30_: I'll take that as a no :(
[22:02:00] rsdvd: Juski L I did a search and it did nto find it
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[22:03:00] rsdvd: Juski : the nearest I can find is 78L08
[22:04:00] Juski: rsdvd: I'm looking now
[22:04:00] rsdvd: thnks
[22:05:00] Juski: rsdvd: 306–190
[22:06:00] Juski: a picture of a SOT-23 device (misleadingly) comes up in the top of the page but ignore that
[22:06:00] Juski: package type is TO92, price is £0.28
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[22:07:00] Juski: rsdvd: what was the number of that IR receiver I suggested you use again?
[22:07:00] Juski: I'll just check it's a 5V part
[22:07:00] rsdvd: 577–897
[22:08:00] Juski: ahh yes it is
[22:08:00] rsdvd: but hey also do the TSOP1738...iti s cheeaper
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[22:10:00] Juski: even better!
[22:12:00] rsdvd: I will get them ordered...but I might be back to you when they arrive :-)
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[22:14:00] Juski: tdb30_: http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox . . . oogle+Search
[22:14:00] jemarcks: howdy
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[22:23:00] brejc8: I have been away from the mythtv development for a while (phd). I was gonna resume working on a recommendation system. Has anyone else started one while I have been away or expressed interest in it?
[22:24:00] Chutt: not that i'm aware of
[22:25:00] brejc8: The other day I started a system for gropuping people using a 2d map
[22:26:00] brejc8: Its pretty cool actually. if anyone wants to have a go then try it at: http://home.brej.org/login/main.php
[22:27:00] brejc8: you can register with a fake address
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[22:33:00] jemarcks: what demon is used to service external nfs mount requests? its not mountd.
[22:33:00] jemarcks: Im tweeking hosts.allow
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[22:56:00] r10: which file do I need to edit to edit the main menue (the on with music, tv, movies...) ?
[22:56:00] Juski: theme.xml
[22:58:00] Juski: tip: don't delete any lines from the file.. comment them out with <!--
[22:58:00] Juski: before the line you want omitted, then -->
[22:58:00] Juski: after the lines you want to miss out
[22:59:00] Juski: time for bed.. night all
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[23:02:00] WAR_CH|LD: is anyone alive and with experience with the masterbackend/slave configuration?
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[23:03:00] buns: greetings
[23:03:00] WAR_CH|LD: I am usin dvb tuners in my master and standard tuners in my slave, hauppague 500's.
[23:04:00] WAR_CH|LD: I am wondering, do I need to have the ivtv modules installed on the master? even thou the master has no pvr500's in it?
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[23:06:00] r10: in theme.xml I only remove the inage on the button, how do I remove the button ?
[23:06:00] Kury: Anyone know anything about setting up LIRC w/ a pinnacle IR receiver? or this USB one? http://www.buyextras.com/usbfainadidf.html
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[23:10:00] Kury: Is there a good LIRC channle??
[23:10:00] jd86: I have 6 mythfrontends (processes) running.... is that how many there are supposed to be?
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[23:11:00] GreyFoxx: jd86: Those are individual threads, not seperate processes
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[23:12:00] Kury: Can I use a different remote w/ my IR receiver?? or is there an LIRC channle that I might be better off asking? Thanks
[23:14:00] jd86: GreyFoxx: oh yea.. and i setuid it
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[23:14:00] jd86: well i need to find out why playback and watching tv while its recording stops and starts and junk
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[23:16:00] Kury: Anyone know jack about setting up LIRC? Thanks
[23:17:00] WAR_CH|LD: I dont think many ppl in the "know" are alive. :\
[23:18:00] Kury: :(
[23:19:00] Kury: you don't happen to know if there is a channle specific to LIRC by chance do you?
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[23:22:00] malaTG: What is your problem Kury
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[23:23:00] Kury: .. I have a pinnacle systems IR receiver.. but the remote blows.. I was wondering if I could use another remote w/ this receiver..
[23:24:00] Kury: I'v been messing w/ the configs & everything.. but I don't know if I'm doing stuff wrong in the software or if the hardware just isn't capable of this..
[23:25:00] malaTG: ok so you have tested the mode2 function?
[23:25:00] Kury: here is my pinnacle remote/reciever http://i10.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/89/85/d5_1_b.JPG
[23:25:00] DeltaF: Kury: What's it doing?
[23:25:00] malaTG: you see the raw data from the remote
[23:26:00] malaTG: or something like that
[23:26:00] Kury: mode2 says I can't use it because of my remote/reciever... it says its only for pulse/space layer
[23:26:00] malaTG: anyway you see if you have a signal
[23:26:00] Kury: I use irw.. and it works fine..
[23:26:00] malaTG: mode2 is just for checking if it works
[23:26:00] Kury: it tells me up down.. 5... TV...power..etc
[23:26:00] malaTG: hmm okay the maybe you can just use your remote
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[23:27:00] Kury: I'm not sure.. mode2 has never worked for me.. it always says my hardware isn't compatible w/ it (short & sweet)
[23:27:00] malaTG: I am not sure. Uses a home-brew myself.... sry
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[23:27:00] malaTG: can=cant before :-)
[23:27:00] Kury: .. any idea about this receiver http://www.buyextras.com/usbfainadidf.html
[23:28:00] Kury: I've got it too.. but I'v never gotten it to work at all..
[23:28:00] malaTG: or just make one for like 10 dollars
[23:28:00] Kury: but I found that link directly on www.lirc.org
[23:28:00] malaTG: that is weird
[23:28:00] Kury: I've tried a few times.. nobody has the parts around here.
[23:29:00] malaTG: okay....
[23:29:00] Kury: so I'm not sure where this leaves me.. I basicly just hate this pinnacle remote.. all the buttons are so close together.. and they're all the same size.. its a pain to use w/ out looking at the buttons
[23:30:00] WAR_CH|LD: does anyone know, if you have a master/slave configuration with differenet cards requiring different drivers each, that even thou the card is not in the master does it still need the driver installed?
[23:30:00] DeltaF: From what I've read, if you get a remote that uses the same protocol you'll be in good shape to use a different remote.
[23:31:00] malaTG: hmmmyepp
[23:31:00] Kury: what all does a protocol intail? frequency? and??
[23:32:00] GreyFoxx: WAR_CH|LD: You only need to install or configure the driver on the machine that has the card
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[23:32:00] WAR_CH|LD: GreyFoxx, thanks! I wasn't sure, and thought that maybe that was the reason my slave doens't wnat to work.
[23:32:00] WAR_CH|LD: but obviously that isn't it. :)
[23:33:00] DeltaF: Anyone else having issues with x86_64 mythfrontend?
[23:33:00] DeltaF: kury: Not sure. I think it has some info in the config files for your remote.
[23:33:00] DeltaF: lirc's website has details too
[23:33:00] malaTG: From what I can find on google the pinnacle remote seems to be abit special
[23:34:00] malaTG: maybe the receiver doesn't work with other remotes
[23:34:00] DeltaF: Same thing with hauppague. :)
[23:34:00] malaTG: that really sucks if that is the case.....
[23:35:00] malaTG: Where do you live Kury if you can't get the parts
[23:35:00] malaTG: you can order a pre-build one from the lirc home page I believe
[23:35:00] Kury: ... just some stupid small town in the NW..
[23:35:00] DeltaF: I was reading that someone found a universal remote from radioshack that worked with WinTV's..
[23:36:00] DeltaF: If I can find the link I'll paste it.
[23:36:00] Kury: well the IR recievers I have.. are the pinnacle.. the hauppague.. and the USB dongle.. that I posted a link for above..
[23:36:00] malaTG: One should work...... :-)
[23:37:00] Kury: you'd think..
[23:38:00] WAR_CH|LD: GreyFoxx for the ringbuff on the slave, doesn it matter where it's located? or does the location need to be readable by the master?
[23:38:00] DeltaF: Here's some info: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/remotes.php
[23:39:00] DeltaF: I thought I read that IRDA hardware doesn't work..
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