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| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | maybe? please don't lie when you're describing a problem. |
| [00:01:00] | Gumby: | Chutt: I could have sworn I did it last night |
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| [00:01:00] | Gumby: | I just tried it again and it just displays garbage |
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| [00:01:00] | Gumby: | so yet, you are right. I;m not intentionally lying |
| [00:01:00] | Gumby: | yet/yes |
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| [00:02:00] | Gumby: | its gotta be something wrong with mythtv as far as I can tell. |
| [00:04:00] | FuDing: | Gumby the reason I ask is because I had a helluva time tracking down an intermittent vid error one time |
| [00:04:00] | FuDing: | didnt find it until I swapped vid cards |
| [00:04:00] | FuDing: | the first card had a bad ram chip |
| [00:04:00] | FuDing: | but you could only tell when running certain apps |
| [00:06:00] | Gumby: | FuDing: well, I was running this card with these tuners just yesterday and they ran fine |
| [00:06:00] | FuDing: | what did you change since then |
| [00:07:00] | Gumby: | since then I was messing with libqt stuff, thats about it |
| [00:07:00] | FuDing: | can you revert? |
| [00:07:00] | Gumby: | but I have all of that back to normal |
| [00:08:00] | Gumby: | and I have also checked it in here with someone that runs debian sarge. we have the same libqt packages |
| [00:08:00] | FuDing: | maybe you don't ;) |
| [00:08:00] | FuDing: | what about dependencies |
| [00:09:00] | Gumby: | I have run apt-get build-dep mythtv to make sure I have all the deps according to the debian packages at least |
| [00:09:00] | Gumby: | it shouldnt compile without the deps should it? |
| [00:10:00] | FuDing: | what I am asking is, when you went back to the old libqt, didnt it leave behind some updated deps |
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| [00:10:00] | Gumby: | I dont believe so no. the deps I had installed were conflicting |
| [00:10:00] | Gumby: | so they were removed |
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| [00:11:00] | FuDing: | then I go back to the hardware theory ;) |
| [00:11:00] | whyz: | hello.. i'm using an svideo cable together with my pvr350. on the other end, there's a svideo to scart adapter. This setup only gives me black&white picture.. is there some way to get around this? |
| [00:12:00] | Gumby: | FuDing: how is it hardware if I can a) play back an ivtv stream just fine and b) use tvtime to view the bttv card? |
| [00:13:00] | FuDing: | If yourestored the software exactly as it was the last time it worked, how is it not hardware? |
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| [00:15:00] | Gumby: | FuDing: I have said I have the same qtlibs. thats it. the kernel is different (allthough I think it ran ok on this kernel last night), and mythtv has been recompiled. |
| [00:17:00] | FuDing: | you didnt say that when I asked you what had changed since then LOL |
| [00:17:00] | Gumby: | well, as of last night the kernel was the same |
| [00:17:00] | Gumby: | as of last night the cards were the same |
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| [00:20:00] | Gumby: | going to try a different kernel. |
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| [00:27:00] | slide: | Currently mythcommflag is limited to about 20% how do i up that? |
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| [00:39:00] | Gumby: | changed kernels. works well. |
| [00:39:00] | Gumby: | grrrrrrrr |
| [00:39:00] | ** Gumby wonders what this kernel has that mine doesnt ** | |
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| [00:40:00] | drgayus: | hey can i install mythtv on kubuntu? |
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| [01:05:00] | Gumby: | well, it looks like my kernel is the problem. Doesnt want to play with myth very well. |
| [01:05:00] | Gumby: | anyone know which kernel modules myth requires or if there are any patches that it prefers? |
| [01:06:00] | Gumby: | symptoms are stuttering playing back with both ivtv and bttv cards |
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| [01:23:00] | Servo888: | what chmod level should I set for /dev/video0? It's a pvr 150 |
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| [01:24:00] | Dagmar: | Chmod does not have "levels" |
| [01:25:00] | Servo888: | ... |
| [01:26:00] | Servo888: | privileges might be a better term... But levels makes sense. Just like you have multiple security levels. |
| [01:27:00] | Servo888: | all I'm asking is should the user / root need read, write, exec rights? |
| [01:27:00] | Dagmar: | That implies a hierarchy. Chmod has no such thing. |
| [01:27:00] | Dagmar: | You need read-write access to the device as the user you intend to have reading from the tuner |
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| [01:34:00] | fman: | hey all |
| [01:34:00] | fman: | how does the vlc stuff work under mythtv |
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| [01:46:00] | Servo888: | Ok here's a strange issue... When I hit 'watch tv' I get about 3 seconds worth of show and then the picture stops, and mythtv goes back to the main screen (after about 10 secondS) |
| [01:46:00] | Servo888: | cating the input is fine; I get the video as long as I want and I can watch it fine |
| [01:52:00] | Servo888: | anybody?... I'll give you guys a cookie or something |
| [01:54:00] | Servo888: | two cookies maybe? |
| [01:54:00] | Servo888: | I'll like usps them; only 2 days coast to coast |
| [02:15:00] | Gumby: | hrm, does anyone know which video and audio codec are most commonly used for bttv cards? |
| [02:15:00] | Gumby: | for the livetv and recording profiles that is |
| [02:18:00] | Servo888: | Gumby, for recording or decoding? |
| [02:18:00] | Servo888: | afaik nupple video and mpeg are used for recoding. |
| [02:19:00] | Servo888: | At least in mythtv |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | nupplevideo is acontainer, not a codec |
| [02:19:00] | Servo888: | So this one has decided to speak |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | but for bttv cards you only have 2 choices. mpeg4 or rtjpeg |
| [02:19:00] | Dagmar: | They should just rename it NippleVideo, since we're all *thinking* it anyway |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | most use mpeg4 unless they are hurting for cpu at which point they go rtjpeg |
| [02:21:00] | Servo888: | Hey GreyFoxx since you seem helpfull can you read above about my mythtv issue? So I'm watching tv, for about 2–3 seconds, and then the pictures freezes and mythtv goes back to the main menu. |
| [02:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea |
| [02:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen people describe the same problem before. But I have no idea what it is as I've never seen it so I usually ignored the conversation :) |
| [02:22:00] | Servo888: | ah ok |
| [02:26:00] | Gumby: | hrm, strange. mythfronted cant connect to the backend on the same box all of a sudden |
| [02:27:00] | Gumby: | or maybe thats just a lirc message |
| [02:28:00] | Gumby: | as soon as I start the frontend the backend crashes |
| [02:28:00] | Gumby: | :( |
| [02:28:00] | Gumby: | all the backend shows is.... |
| [02:29:00] | Gumby: | 2005-11–12 18:28:16.324 adding: fileserver as a remote ringbuffer |
| [02:29:00] | Gumby: | 2005-11–12 18:28:16.410 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [02:29:00] | Gumby: | then of course nothing as its crashed |
| [02:30:00] | Gumby: | anyone have any ideas? |
| [02:30:00] | Gumby: | hrm, looks like it might be the bttv card. I removed the module and the fronted works now |
| [02:32:00] | Gumby: | tvtime allows the card to work just fine though. |
| [02:32:00] | Gumby: | strange |
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| [02:55:00] | fman: | I just installed the latest mythweb and now the whole thing is broke |
| [02:56:00] | Quan: | fman: define broke? |
| [02:56:00] | fman: | lots of errors |
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| [02:56:00] | Quan: | did you edit the config file and point it to the db etc? |
| [02:57:00] | fman: | my problem is I have a knoppmyth box that I've compiled the latest cvs build on, and trying to reverse engineer where the knoppmyth guys put everything |
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| [02:58:00] | Quan: | you talking about mythbrowser, or mythweb, the weeb page interface? |
| [02:58:00] | fman: | mythweb |
| [02:59:00] | fman: | browser interface |
| [02:59:00] | Quan: | should just have to drop it in the webroot, and edit the conf file to set up the db connection |
| [02:59:00] | Quan: | assuming you have php installed for apache |
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| [02:59:00] | fman: | well, it was working with 0.18 from knoppmyth so assuming php is good to go |
| [03:00:00] | fman: | so, the root of this looks to be /var/www/mythweb |
| [03:00:00] | fman: | there is a config file in there |
| [03:00:00] | Quan: | what is the error you're getting? |
| [03:01:00] | fman: | what should the permissions be in that directory |
| [03:01:00] | fman: | and owner etc |
| [03:02:00] | Quan: | so long as they are readable by apache user you should be good, also the php_sessions dir and image_cache dir need to be writeable by apache user |
| [03:02:00] | fman: | error message is |
| [03:03:00] | fman: | http://pastebin.ca/28511 |
| [03:04:00] | Quan: | you have allowoverides on for that dir in your apache config? |
| [03:05:00] | fman: | well, I've not changed any of that stuff from the previous working system |
| [03:05:00] | Quan: | you on apache or apache2? |
| [03:05:00] | fman: | from http.conf |
| [03:05:00] | fman: | AllowOverride All |
| [03:06:00] | fman: | 1.3.33 |
| [03:06:00] | Quan: | there's no setenv in my .htaccess |
| [03:06:00] | fman: | ? |
| [03:06:00] | Quan: | what's the line in your .htaccess with setenv? try commenting it out? |
| [03:07:00] | fman: | there is 4 lines in htaccess with that |
| [03:07:00] | Quan: | pastebin them? |
| [03:08:00] | fman: | http://pastebin.ca/28512 |
| [03:08:00] | fman: | I've comented them out |
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| [03:09:00] | Quan: | hmm wonder why they moved that into the .htaceess |
| [03:09:00] | fman: | this is from the latest cvs version |
| [03:09:00] | Quan: | those used to be defined in conf |
| [03:10:00] | fman: | conf.php dosn't look to have username/password stuff in it |
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| [03:10:00] | Quan: | you need to have mod_env loaded in apache for setenv to work |
| [03:11:00] | Quan: | the old mythweeb didn't do things this way so you probably don't have it on |
| [03:11:00] | Quan: | add LoadModule env_module modules/mod_env.so to httpd.conf |
| [03:11:00] | fman: | I don't see mod_env listed under apt-get |
| [03:12:00] | fman: | is it called somthing else, or already installed |
| [03:12:00] | Quan: | it's usually a part of base apache |
| [03:12:00] | fman: | yep – looks to be |
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| [03:13:00] | Quan: | restart apache, uncomment those setenv lines in the .htaccess and try again |
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| [03:15:00] | fman: | same error |
| [03:17:00] | fman: | this eror probably dosn't help |
| [03:17:00] | fman: | [Sun Nov 13 16:17:21 2005] [error] Cannot remove module mod_env.c: not found in module list |
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| [03:20:00] | Quan: | fman: was there already a mod_env line in your httpd.conf, maybe just commented out? |
| [03:20:00] | fman: | no |
| [03:20:00] | Quan: | hmm |
| [03:20:00] | Quan: | not sure I got the syntax right for apache 1.3 |
| [03:20:00] | Quan: | and apparenlty apache site is down ATM |
| [03:21:00] | Quan: | go figure :P |
| [03:21:00] | fman: | I've tried adding this to both (at different times) httpd.conf and modules.conf |
| [03:21:00] | Quan: | it's not a linux module |
| [03:21:00] | fman: | hmm, this is in /etc/apache/modules.conf |
| [03:21:00] | fman: | which is where the other modules are being loaded |
| [03:21:00] | Quan: | bah silly apache setups |
| [03:22:00] | Quan: | well that would be the right place |
| [03:25:00] | fman: | hmm |
| [03:25:00] | fman: | weird |
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| [03:28:00] | cool: | hello all! |
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| [03:29:00] | cool: | I need help installing mythtv .... can i use it (frontend) without X server ? |
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| [03:32:00] | toom: | back |
| [03:32:00] | toom: | mornign |
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| [03:39:00] | xanderp: | rebuilding a frontend on an epiam10000 board with a pvr350 on it. running gentoo 2.6.14 and trying to compile lirc 0.7.2, but it won't compile. Anyone else run into this combo problem? |
| [03:39:00] | xanderp: | oops, that is gentoo 2.6.14-r2 |
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| [03:41:00] | fman: | ok, looks like i need to get up to apache 2.0 |
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| [03:55:00] | fman: | Quan – jumped to apache 2 |
| [03:55:00] | fman: | not much better |
| [04:01:00] | toom: | ugh |
| [04:04:00] | toom: | my box is receiving |
| [04:04:00] | toom: | 4 sources for one channel |
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| [04:16:00] | toom: | and 0 sources for the other channels |
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| [04:46:00] | toom: | yey. finally: >>> emerge (68 of 68) media-tv/xmltv-0.5.37-r1 to / |
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| [05:34:00] | toom: | anyone there? |
| [05:34:00] | toom: | what am i supposed to fill in the 'video source' in mythsetup? |
| [05:38:00] | toom: | ah, i need to pick a random one. ok |
| [05:40:00] | xris: | toom: um, you pick the one appropriate for your location |
| [05:41:00] | toom: | jep |
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| [05:57:00] | toom: | hm |
| [05:57:00] | toom: | doesn't really play something, and the tvguide is empty even though it said that it filled the db, but everything else is looks nice |
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| [06:35:00] | NightBird: | hm... Myth tv doesn't seem able to display the "emergency test signal".. |
| [06:35:00] | NightBird: | the audio comes through fine, just the video is all scrambled(shoulda been the other way around :P) |
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| [07:18:00] | cosmo_: | anyone know what the status of reiser on gentoo64 is? The folks over in gentoo dont seem to know, and im finding conflicting information in wikis and articles |
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| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, you around? |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn you! your never around |
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| [08:31:00] | mace: | hi, can anyone help me out with building myth from source? i'd like to build from svn, but am unsure whether i should go for latest trunk or if there's a 'safer' bet (wife'll be unimpressed if the box doesn't record her programs, but ideally i'd like to use trunk so i can fix stuff) |
| [08:34:00] | sungrazer: | have it ever struck you that one of the main reasons men do stuff is because they want to impress the women.... ;) |
| [08:34:00] | ** mace was being sarcastic :-P ** | |
| [08:34:00] | sungrazer: | hehe |
| [08:35:00] | sungrazer: | on a more serious note, I've been trying to build mythtv from source, and just installing it using rpms, and I've also tried the distro |
| [08:35:00] | sungrazer: | either of the installations break heavily whenever I upgrade the system |
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| [08:37:00] | mace: | define upgrade? |
| [08:37:00] | slide: | For some reason MythMusic is getting a cds info from the internet |
| [08:37:00] | slide: | Is there any shell command i can do to update it on my box or something? |
| [08:37:00] | sungrazer: | mace: system wide upgrade. such as yum upgrade or apt-get upgrade :-) |
| [08:43:00] | mace: | sungrazer: aye, but an apt-get upgrade can update a single package, or install a new c compiler :) |
| [08:43:00] | mace: | are you talking a big upgrade then? |
| [08:43:00] | mace: | if the c compiler gets upgraded there may be abi changes which'd upset myth |
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| [08:49:00] | Dagmar: | mace speaks great truth |
| [08:49:00] | Dagmar: | Don't screw around with changing any parts of gcc when you're relying on C++ applications |
| [08:49:00] | mace: | myth is c++? |
| [08:49:00] | mace: | ick |
| [08:54:00] | mace: | ok, when i'm ./configure ing myth, under misc features it's saying "DVD playback no" – should i be concerned? |
| [08:55:00] | ivor: | depends |
| [08:55:00] | ivor: | do you want dvd playback? :) |
| [08:56:00] | mace: | at some point, but i don't have a dvd player in that machine atm so i won't be too unhappy if i don't have it atm |
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| [08:56:00] | sungrazer: | mace: I agree ... but it's annoying nevertheless. |
| [08:57:00] | ** mace notes ivor just shot my dev mail down :-P ** | |
| [08:57:00] | ** ivor whistles innocently. ** | |
| [08:58:00] | ivor: | mace: re DVD take a look in config.log to see why it's disabled. |
| [08:58:00] | mace: | ivor: i do read both mailing lists, but it's a full time job to keep up with all the specifics, which is why i suggested someone that happens to already do that, to just keep a brief summary of what the score is |
| [08:59:00] | ivor: | hmmm myth doesn't make a config.log. never noticed that. |
| [08:59:00] | Dagmar: | Myth's configure script only pretends to be GNU |
| [08:59:00] | ivor: | Basically check the configure script to see what the prerequisites are. |
| [08:59:00] | ivor: | libdvd* I assume. |
| [08:59:00] | mace: | it wants libdvdnav |
| [09:00:00] | Dagmar: | The first time I built it I had to bang on it a little to get it to be able to build against Slackware's slightly oblong Qt package |
| [09:00:00] | Dagmar: | mace: Probably libdvdread and libdvdcss as well' |
| [09:00:00] | mace: | that's the only one configure checks for (but you're no doubt correct) |
| [09:00:00] | ivor: | indeed, I expect dvdnav won't install without the others. :) |
| [09:02:00] | Dagmar: | You wanna know that libdvd* I have installed? |
| [09:02:00] | mace: | nah configure's happy nwo |
| [09:03:00] | mace: | now |
| [09:03:00] | Dagmar: | Okay. |
| [09:03:00] | ** mace tries building ** | |
| [09:03:00] | mace: | only a p3 so will take a while |
| [09:03:00] | Dagmar: | Oof |
| [09:03:00] | mace: | hopefully ccache will mitigate future builds |
| [09:04:00] | mace: | so do i need to build the plugins/themes separately or will the main build pull those in automatically? |
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| [09:05:00] | Dagmar: | The plugins and themes are separate packages in the tarballs |
| [09:05:00] | Dagmar: | Dunno about CVS, but it might be separate there as well to make it easier to make the tarballs |
| [09:05:00] | mace: | themes has it's own configure so i'm guessing a similar setup |
| [09:06:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but themes gets done *quick* |
| [09:06:00] | mace: | did i read something on dev recently about --prefix != /usr/local upsetting something? |
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| [09:12:00] | mace: | hm |
| [09:13:00] | Aneurysm9: | mace: I've used --prefix=/usr for years w/o problem so, I dunno |
| [09:14:00] | mace: | the configure for myththemes takes --prefix but doesn't actually use it :) |
| [09:15:00] | Dagmar: | hmm... It worked for the last release tarball of that |
| [09:15:00] | Dagmar: | ...and there are *no* problems with making prefix=/usr |
| [09:16:00] | mace: | oddness |
| [09:16:00] | mace: | oh, ahh |
| [09:17:00] | mace: | sneaky, it's trying to use mythtv's mythconfig.mak |
| [09:18:00] | Aneurysm9: | yeah, if I try to use another prefix it comes up with a broken symlink to that |
| [09:20:00] | Dagmar: | Try adding "QMAKE_PROJECT_DEPTH = 0" to the *.pro files |
| [09:20:00] | Dagmar: | I've got mythtv and myth-themes building as packages here. Nothing broken in 'em |
| [09:21:00] | Dagmar: | That variable makes qmake/moc be less retarded about file paths, so it may just not ever be hitting whatever's causing your broken symlinks |
| [09:21:00] | Aneurysm9: | I've got nothing broken either, one system using --prefix=/usr and another with --prefix=/usr/local but I would surmise if you tried to mix the prefixes things may go bad |
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| [09:24:00] | Dagmar: | DaBlade: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET through H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET |
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| [09:27:00] | mace: | what does the 'mythcontrols' plugin do? |
| [09:28:00] | Dagmar: | *No* idea |
| [09:28:00] | Dagmar: | I havent' even seen that one before |
| [09:28:00] | Dagmar: | Are you pulling from SVN? |
| [09:28:00] | mace: | yeah |
| [09:28:00] | sungrazer: | remove controls perhaps? |
| [09:28:00] | mace: | readme isn't overly useful |
| [09:28:00] | sungrazer: | remote, even? |
| [09:29:00] | Dagmar: | I don't think that's what it would be, since lircd hooks are built right into the frontend |
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| [09:54:00] | toom: | hi |
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| [09:55:00] | sungrazer: | 'lo |
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| [10:16:00] | P4C0: | hello |
| [10:17:00] | Dagmar: | this hour of the night is a bit slow |
| [10:18:00] | Dagmar: | About six hours earlier from now, or maybe eight hours further along there will likely be someone |
| [10:18:00] | P4C0: | ok, but I just want to know a little more about nexus tv |
| [10:19:00] | sungrazer: | the hauppage card – I am about to buy one too |
| [10:19:00] | P4C0: | as far as I know is it possible to just buy a nexus tv card, a normal rca antenna and just plug it all together and have free tv from everywhere? |
| [10:20:00] | P4C0: | but the satellite tv service is free? I mean it's hard for me to beleve that there's no fee for that, no encription, no authentication, just some satellites giving free tv signals to all places in the world!? |
| [10:20:00] | Dagmar: | It's not free |
| [10:21:00] | sungrazer: | you need a subscription to be able to receive the encrypted channels |
| [10:21:00] | P4C0: | I have heard that you can crack it? and get the service for free? btw, which are the services providers? |
| [10:22:00] | P4C0: | and there's no unencrypted channels at all? |
| [10:22:00] | Dagmar: | Some of the channels are unencrypted, but I've no idea which ones those might be |
| [10:23:00] | sungrazer: | depends on what sattelite you're pulling the signal from and your location in the world, I guess |
| [10:23:00] | P4C0: | the worst ones, that's for sure |
| [10:23:00] | sungrazer: | possibly |
| [10:24:00] | P4C0: | I just heared about a guy that live in cuba, and have this setup and according to him he get signals from 3 satellites for free... it was just to hard to beleve, so I'm trying to do some research, at least the card exists :p |
| [10:24:00] | sungrazer: | if you want encrypted services you need to sign up for a subscription. it's as simple as that |
| [10:24:00] | P4C0: | is there a place to find the available subscriptors? |
| [10:25:00] | sungrazer: | surely – but it's usually specific to the country you are living in |
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| [10:26:00] | P4C0: | well I'm in Panama right now, and as far as I know, here there's no satellite subscriptors, we do have a direct tv and cable tv operators |
| [10:27:00] | P4C0: | and I have heared about some buildings that have their own antennas for tv, but there's no publicity about it in the medias |
| [10:30:00] | sungrazer: | if you make a phone call to the tv channel that you want to watch they might know how you should go about to get tv via a sattelite dish |
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| [10:31:00] | P4C0: | sungrazer, thanks |
| [10:31:00] | P4C0: | and for the nesus card a normal small rca antenna will do the trick? |
| [10:31:00] | sungrazer: | if you're talking about the nexus-s card from hauppage, no. |
| [10:32:00] | sungrazer: | I did a google and found this, don't know if it is relevant though: http://www.zonalatina.com/Zldata71b.htm |
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| [10:33:00] | P4C0: | holly sh*t that antennas dosen't look cheap |
| [10:33:00] | sungrazer: | those looks like antennas used for providers |
| [10:33:00] | P4C0: | yes |
| [10:34:00] | sungrazer: | another link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_in_Panama |
| [10:34:00] | sungrazer: | might give you a few leads |
| [10:35:00] | sungrazer: | "Only one company in Panama holds a concession for satellite TV services: DirecTV Latin America" |
| [10:35:00] | P4C0: | yeah, does direct tv guys... |
| [10:35:00] | sungrazer: | mind you, I've never been to panama, nor do I know squat about the region so I might be totally off :D |
| [10:36:00] | P4C0: | but how does it works... I mean does direct tv owns a satellite or something? |
| [10:36:00] | P4C0: | sungrazer, where are you from? |
| [10:36:00] | sungrazer: | usually you need to have a tuner, a sattelite dish pointed in the correct direction and some LNBs to pick up the signal |
| [10:37:00] | sungrazer: | I'm in norway |
| [10:37:00] | P4C0: | Intelsat is used primarily for international communications. PanAmSat (US) provides international broadcast and data services in Panama. <--hummm |
| [10:37:00] | P4C0: | sungrazer, cold? |
| [10:38:00] | sungrazer: | 7.5 C |
| [10:38:00] | sungrazer: | not particularly cold, no |
| [10:39:00] | P4C0: | I was in spain about 3 weeks ago, but it wasn't that cold, 15 C or so, I just love the cold, I have no idea what I'm doing in such a hot place like this :p |
| [10:42:00] | toom: | do I really have to allow_url_fopen = On in my php.ini for if mythtv is running on the same host than apache? |
| [10:43:00] | P4C0: | well thank you guys for the tips and links, my curiosity is in calm now, see you later |
| [10:43:00] | P4C0: | bye bye (and thanks!) |
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| [11:13:00] | toom: | can anyone confirm that this is ok and i should have a tv guide now: http://pastebin.ca/28542 |
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| [11:21:00] | toom: | hm, the database seems to have the program, but it's not displayed in mythweb |
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| [12:09:00] | toom: | anyone here? |
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| [12:24:00] | toom: | !seen juski |
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| [13:26:00] | toom: | hello? |
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| [13:32:00] | FrankTM: | toom: hi :P |
| [13:32:00] | otwin: | toom: did you configure db settings in mythweb/config/conf.php ? |
| [13:32:00] | FrankTM: | oh |
| [13:32:00] | FrankTM: | lol |
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| [13:34:00] | toom: | ah, there you are |
| [13:36:00] | toom: | i can connect to the database using the defined values in conf.php |
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| [13:40:00] | otwin: | sorry, can't help you more for now – need to halt my router/gateway. |
| [13:41:00] | toom: | hm |
| [13:41:00] | toom: | ok, good luck with it, whatever you're doing |
| [13:42:00] | toom: | FrankTM: can you confirm that http://pastebin.ca/28542 is the output of a working mythfilldatabase ? |
| [13:43:00] | toom: | or can anyone else? |
| [13:44:00] | FrankTM: | i dont have a tv-tuner yet |
| [13:45:00] | FrankTM: | so i couldnt tell you |
| [13:45:00] | toom: | ok |
| [13:45:00] | toom: | well, you don't need a tv tuner to fetch the program :) |
| [13:45:00] | FrankTM: | hmmm |
| [13:45:00] | FrankTM: | i didnt get that working :/ |
| [13:45:00] | FrankTM: | i will play with it this evening |
| [13:46:00] | toom: | good luck |
| [13:47:00] | toom: | well, i guess it's working, cause guide.xml sais things like: <programme start="20051116230000 +0800" stop="20051117000000 +0800" channel="networktenperth.free.au"> |
| [13:47:00] | toom: | <title lang="en">The Secret Life of Us</title> |
| [13:47:00] | FrankTM: | is there any good list of supported tv cards? |
| [13:47:00] | toom: | so it must be a problem between mysql and myth |
| [13:47:00] | toom: | yeah, list is in .. |
| [13:48:00] | toom: | /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.bttv |
| [13:48:00] | toom: | as far as i understood the whole thing, everything in there should work with myth as well |
| [13:49:00] | FrankTM: | i dont have a folder documentation |
| [13:49:00] | toom: | but don't count on me |
| [13:49:00] | toom: | then check out a complete kernel source |
| [13:49:00] | toom: | it'll be in there |
| [13:50:00] | FrankTM: | i dont have that, hehe |
| [13:51:00] | toom: | google helps: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cardlist.BTTV |
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| [13:54:00] | FrankTM: | hmmm |
| [13:54:00] | FrankTM: | hehe |
| [13:54:00] | FrankTM: | i could have thought of that |
| [13:55:00] | FrankTM: | # card=39 – Pinnacle PCTV Studio/Rave |
| [13:55:00] | FrankTM: | yay \o/ |
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| [14:16:00] | FrankTM: | toom |
| [14:16:00] | FrankTM: | i think i cant setup my guide right now |
| [14:16:00] | FrankTM: | somehow i can't vnc into my machine |
| [14:16:00] | toom: | because you need mythtv installed and setup? |
| [14:17:00] | FrankTM: | its installed |
| [14:17:00] | FrankTM: | but i cant run setup without x :p |
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| [14:25:00] | toom: | you don't need to run setup for the tvguide, do you? |
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| [14:43:00] | FrankTM: | im not sure |
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| [14:49:00] | toom: | yey, i think, my remote just started working |
| [14:50:00] | FuDing: | whichremote do you have? |
| [14:50:00] | FuDing: | which remote do you have? |
| [14:50:00] | toom: | 00010046000000f9 00 chup DVICO |
| [14:51:00] | FuDing: | is that english? ;-) |
| [14:51:00] | toom: | i guess so |
| [14:51:00] | toom: | it says FusionHDTV DViCo on it |
| [14:51:00] | FuDing: | ah thx |
| [14:52:00] | toom: | the line above was the output of irw when i pressed a key |
| [14:52:00] | FuDing: | ah the channel up button |
| [14:52:00] | FuDing: | gotcha |
| [14:54:00] | FuDing: | I'm going to have to tackle the remote control next now that my wireless is finally working |
| [14:54:00] | toom: | yes, that one :) |
| [14:54:00] | FuDing: | not looking forward to it |
| [14:54:00] | toom: | ok, now i need to get my tv guide shown in mythweb and in mythfrontend |
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| [15:07:00] | FrankTM: | anyone working with the mce remote? |
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| [15:10:00] | Servo888: | Ok so here's my mythtv issue – I hit watch tv, I get ~3 seconds of play back then the image goes still and mythtv goes back to the main menu after ~10 seconds. What could be the issue? Everything seems to be working; I can cat the video0 node, and use mplayer to play it back. |
| [15:10:00] | Servo888: | Oh also I'm using a Geforce 4MX 4000 for hardware mpeg2 decoding |
| [15:11:00] | Servo888: | It works in mplayer – so I'm not sure if that's any kind of issue |
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| [15:32:00] | ivor: | Servo888: what does the log tell you? |
| [15:32:00] | Servo888: | I need a sec to power on my machine =\ |
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| [15:40:00] | Servo888: | http://pastebin.com/427795 ivor there you go |
| [15:40:00] | Servo888: | Looks like it's choosing to use XV instead of xvmc also strange |
| [15:41:00] | Servo888: | I can't figure out how to enable xvmc surfing through all the menus returns nothing |
| [15:42:00] | ivor: | what version are you currently running. |
| [15:43:00] | Servo888: | mythtv-0.18.1-r1 |
| [15:44:00] | ivor: | in that case the xvmc setting should be in the tv playback options.... |
| [15:44:00] | ivor: | if your myth was compiled with xvmc support. |
| [15:45:00] | Servo888: | Yah doesn't seem to be there; at least nothing obvious like enable xvmc |
| [15:48:00] | ivor: | did you compile from source? |
| [15:48:00] | Servo888: | Sort of – via Gentoo's emerge... I'm going to compile from the online sources right now |
| [15:50:00] | Servo888: | Could have missed the xvmc compile flag |
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| [16:04:00] | toom: | Servo888: do you have xvmc in your USE? |
| [16:13:00] | Servo888: | toom, yes |
| [16:14:00] | Servo888: | I'm rebuilding right now via the sourced provided just to make sure xvmc gets compiled in |
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| [17:29:00] | Servo888: | that's queer... I configured with --prefix=/usr but it keeps installing to /usr/local/... |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | Servo888: i believe you need to pass something to qmake |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | Servo888: searcht eh ML |
| [17:31:00] | Servo888: | qmake FREFIX there we go |
| [17:31:00] | Servo888: | I'll try again and see what happens |
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| [17:31:00] | funkyelf: | anyone here capture video over firewire? |
| [17:32:00] | funkyelf: | I was actually able to capture video a couple of times using test-mpeg2....I have a couple of files that are about 60 megs, but I can't play them back with mplayer |
| [17:32:00] | funkyelf: | is there something I need from mplayer to get it to work? |
| [17:33:00] | Servo888: | What error do you get from mplayer? |
| [17:35:00] | funkyelf: | Servo888...lemmie go in the other room. I'm on my windows box now |
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| [17:36:00] | FunkyELF_: | Starting playback... |
| [17:36:00] | FunkyELF_: | a52: CRC check failed! |
| [17:36:00] | FunkyELF_: | a52: error at resampling |
| [17:37:00] | FunkyELF_: | I get a bunch of those errors |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | VDec: vo config request – 1920 x 1080 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES) |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | Could not find matching colorspace – retrying with -vf scale... |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | Opening video filter: [scale] |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | VDecoder init failed :( |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b |
| [17:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2)) |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | sounds like mplayer. |
| [17:39:00] | FunkyELF_: | is there a player in windows that should play this stream? |
| [17:40:00] | FunkyELF_: | I looked at the diagnostics on my cable box while it was recording and it was set to "copy freely" |
| [17:40:00] | FunkyELF_: | is there another player I should try? |
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| [17:42:00] | Servo888: | FunkyELF_, are you trying to use a hardware mpeg2 decoder to play the stream? |
| [17:43:00] | FunkyELF_: | don't know |
| [17:43:00] | FunkyELF_: | I tried mplayer with and without "-vo xv" |
| [17:43:00] | Servo888: | hrm |
| [17:43:00] | FunkyELF_: | i just tried xine as well and it wouldn't play |
| [17:44:00] | FunkyELF_: | could be junk from the firewire? |
| [17:44:00] | FunkyELF_: | Servo888, do you use firewire? |
| [17:45:00] | Servo888: | nope |
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| [17:45:00] | ivor: | perhaps its recorded the full transport stream? (purely uneducated guess! but you could try some of the dvb utils on the stream to see what they make of it) |
| [17:45:00] | Servo888: | Ok question for everybody – anybody know why the hell mythtvfrontend doesn't want to search for themes in /usr/share/mythtv/themes? |
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| [17:49:00] | FunkyELF_: | while I am capturing I see this error in /var/log/messages.... |
| [17:49:00] | FunkyELF_: | Nov 13 12:48:38 myth ohci1394: fw-host0: IR DMA error – OHCI error code 0x1d |
| [17:49:00] | FunkyELF_: | Nov 13 12:48:38 myth |
| [17:49:00] | FunkyELF_: | Nov 13 12:48:38 myth ohci1394: fw-host0: IR DMA error – OHCI error code 0x1d |
| [17:49:00] | FunkyELF_: | Nov 13 12:48:38 myth |
| [17:49:00] | FunkyELF_: | over and over again |
| [17:49:00] | Servo888: | hmm |
| [17:49:00] | Servo888: | Could be driver related =\ |
| [17:51:00] | FunkyELF_: | what does a mknod command do? |
| [17:51:00] | Servo888: | FunkyELF_, created a new node in /dev/ |
| [17:51:00] | Servo888: | creates* |
| [17:51:00] | FunkyELF_: | so that isn't something I have to do each time I reboot? |
| [17:51:00] | FunkyELF_: | I'm trying to follow the fedora myth guide |
| [17:51:00] | Servo888: | You shouldn't have to |
| [17:51:00] | FunkyELF_: | even though I'm on gentoo |
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| [17:53:00] | Juski: | hey this project mayhem stuff is good... might work very well in a mythtv theme ;) |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup, it does :) |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | My GF liked it so much she had me start a theme of it |
| [17:54:00] | Juski: | just playing around with the backgrounds now |
| [17:54:00] | FunkyELF_: | project mayhem? That is a xbmc theme isn't it? |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF_: Yes |
| [17:55:00] | Juski: | don't want to reinvent the wheel though |
| [17:55:00] | Juski: | I think monochrome style themes are the way forward |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I contacted the PM3 guys and got permission to include their stuff in a theme |
| [17:55:00] | Juski: | so does that mean anyone now has carte blanche or just you, GreyFoxx? |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Me |
| [17:56:00] | Juski: | is this PM theme available anywhere, or are you keeping it all to yourself? ;) |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I asked if I could do it, didn't specify if anyone else could |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's only on my boxes |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm waiting for some mythui/theme changes before I finish it |
| [17:57:00] | Juski: | ah yeah I remember reading that |
| [17:58:00] | Juski: | what does everyone use to make all the icons n stuff? proper serious packages or the GIMP (or similar)? |
| [17:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | "proper serious packages" ? |
| [17:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | And Gimp isn't a serious package ? |
| [17:59:00] | Juski: | a lot of em look like they're done with vector drawing kit |
| [17:59:00] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: nah, not really but it tries. |
| [17:59:00] | Servo888: | Should a PVR 150 low profile get detected as a 150 card or 250? (afaik shouldn't it have the 250 hardware) |
| [17:59:00] | ivor: | Juski: you probably want to use inkscape to draw first, and then tidy up and merge stuff in Gimp. |
| [17:59:00] | sandos: | Juski: maybe inkscape? =) |
| [17:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure the vast majority of the work is done in PS since by far most Graphic designers are Windows/Mac fella who are trained in it :) |
| [18:00:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [18:00:00] | Servo888: | inkscape is nice; you can do a lot of 2d art with inkscape, gimp and blender. |
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| [18:02:00] | prodigy7: | hello |
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| [18:04:00] | prodigy7: | i'd a problem with an mythfrontend: if i play an recording and want jump back or forward, the display of total time "jumps randomly" but the recording isn't moved right back or forward. the same does work without any problems on the frontend, installed on the backend pc |
| [18:08:00] | Juski: | prodigy7: that's either a timezone problem, or a time sync issue between the backend & frontend |
| [18:08:00] | prodigy7: | ahhhhh – good hint |
| [18:08:00] | prodigy7: | Sun Nov 13 19:09:34 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2005 |
| [18:08:00] | prodigy7: | it looks that you`re right ... |
| [18:09:00] | prodigy7: | mercie :-) |
| [18:09:00] | Juski: | had the same problem myself.. |
| [18:09:00] | prodigy7: | hmmm, maybe it should be documented somewhere or maybe there should be an mechanism detect such things and write an hint |
| [18:10:00] | Juski: | well, you know now so there's no problem, right? ;) |
| [18:12:00] | prodigy7: | juski: there are maybe some people who don't chat in irc and find someone like you :-) |
| [18:13:00] | Juski: | on my 1st frontend I never saw the problem because I was using ntp on the backend & the frontend |
| [18:14:00] | Juski: | I forgot to do that on the new frontend |
| [18:15:00] | prodigy7: | now, sometime, when i installed gentoo, i forgot set timezone like today ... but that's the first time i forgot this on an pc which works an an frontend :-) |
| [18:16:00] | Silence_: | Lets see if I've got this straight: If I want to record something and watch something at the same time I would need two tuners, right? |
| [18:16:00] | Juski: | unless you wanna go to the recordings menu & watch what you're recording |
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| [18:19:00] | Silence_: | thanks, working on choosing parts to build a system. |
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| [18:24:00] | prodigy7: | Juski: you save my time – correct setting of timezone + reboot let playback working correct |
| [18:24:00] | Juski: | cool! |
| [18:25:00] | Servo888: | Are there other tv applications that can play back mpeg /dev/video0 streams? (besides mplayer) |
| [18:25:00] | BigPeteB_: | Ooh, timezone? Maybe someone can suggest a timezone that will automatically switch Daylight Saving Time without killing things...? |
| [18:25:00] | prodigy7: | Servo888: vlc |
| [18:27:00] | Servo888: | hrm |
| [18:28:00] | maniacxs: | is there a posibility to update video dir in db e.g. with cronjob? |
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| [18:30:00] | Servo888: | Ok for those who have xvmc working – what EXACTLY is the option called in the system configuration under playback. |
| [18:30:00] | ziggy2: | quick question – have hauppauge PVR-350 – everything works except the remote control interaction with MythTV... Note: remote works fine with irw, irexec, but MythTV does nothing with it. What is the mythfrontend supposed to say when it tries to connect to lircd? |
| [18:31:00] | Juski: | ziggy2: have you got a lircrc file in the .mythtv directory of the user you run mythtv as? |
| [18:31:00] | ziggy2: | yes |
| [18:34:00] | ziggy2: | it really appears that it's not even trying to connect to lircd when it loads... building from source 0.18.1 |
| [18:34:00] | Juski: | was it compilied with lirc support? |
| [18:35:00] | ziggy2: | ./configure --lirc-enable — yes |
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| [18:50:00] | a1fa|64: | hi |
| [18:50:00] | a1fa|64: | this is so funny |
| [18:50:00] | a1fa|64: | i am downloading a big file onto my hd |
| [18:50:00] | a1fa|64: | and when i try to watch tv (mythtv-frontend and backend are on the same box) |
| [18:50:00] | a1fa|64: | the sound lags and jitters |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | sounds like a via chipset |
| [18:51:00] | ziggy2: | do you have dma enabled on the hd? |
| [18:51:00] | a1fa|64: | laga: yup.. via chipset it is |
| [18:51:00] | a1fa|64: | dma in bios? |
| [18:51:00] | laga: | a1fa|64: hehe. kt133/kt133a? |
| [18:51:00] | a1fa|64: | yup |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa|64: | or kt233 |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21 |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: DMA timeout error |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa|64: | oh wow |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | a1fa|64: those have known issues with their pci bus.... try google |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa|64: | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333] |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | wow! that looks nice. |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa|64: | 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 A |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | umm. kt266/333, these are supposed to be better |
| [18:53:00] | a1fa|64: | hbehee |
| [18:53:00] | a1fa|64: | i am experiencing a bad sound lag |
| [18:54:00] | a1fa|64: | laga: what should i be looking for? |
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| [18:57:00] | a1fa|64: | nothing on google |
| [19:00:00] | a1fa|64: | any problems with VIA KM266 Pro/VT8235 chipset |
| [19:00:00] | ivor: | search the viaarena forums for keywords like dma problems. :) |
| [19:03:00] | a1fa|64: | sucks man |
| [19:03:00] | a1fa|64: | i think my bios lets me speed up the pci bus |
| [19:03:00] | a1fa|64: | i am going to do that |
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| [19:06:00] | mofu: | a1fa|64: I already told you once to not overclock the board, will only cause more problems |
| [19:08:00] | a1fa|64: | i didnt overclock it |
| [19:08:00] | a1fa|64: | :P |
| [19:08:00] | mofu: | you said you pushed up the FSB to 121Mhz |
| [19:08:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah |
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| [19:09:00] | a1fa|64: | it has to run on 121Mhz, or it wont run at all |
| [19:09:00] | mofu: | set it back to 100Mhz and try it |
| [19:09:00] | ** ivor wonders whats the point of getting a low power, low speed silent machine... and then overclocking it... :) ** | |
| [19:09:00] | a1fa|64: | it wont obot on 100mhz |
| [19:09:00] | mofu: | buy a real motherboard |
| [19:10:00] | a1fa|64: | which one? :P |
| [19:10:00] | mofu: | to use an XP processor, get something w/ nforce2 |
| [19:12:00] | mofu: | get Intel Chipsets for Pentiums/Celerons |
| [19:13:00] | mofu: | anyone here setup Myth with Digital cable, QAM256?? |
| [19:14:00] | a1fa|64: | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.j . . . tCode=241585 |
| [19:14:00] | a1fa|64: | is this a good mobo |
| [19:15:00] | mofu: | decent, yeah |
| [19:15:00] | BigPeteB_: | Wow... I never knew you could set the MythVideo player to "Internal" and it would just get everything right! |
| [19:15:00] | a1fa|64: | where can i buy a decent 4U case for dirt cheap? |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | BigPeteB_: doesn't work too well for me :) |
| [19:17:00] | sandos: | a1fa: rackmount stuff is never dirtcheap afaik :) |
| [19:17:00] | sandos: | not in Sweden anyway |
| [19:17:00] | a1fa|64: | u can buy a 4U case for $50 here |
| [19:17:00] | kahuna_: | Hi. My sound stops working on my PVR-150 MCE. Myth 0.18.1 ivtv 0.4.0. Audio will be fine for a few minutes then it goes out until I shutdown the comp, unplug it and wait for a few min. |
| [19:17:00] | ivor_ (n=ivor@difo.gotadsl.co.uk) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [19:17:00] | kahuna_: | Any known issues? |
| [19:18:00] | a1fa|64: | via chipset? |
| [19:18:00] | a1fa|64: | welcome to the club |
| [19:18:00] | kahuna_: | no. ATI IXP. |
| [19:18:00] | mofu: | kahuna_: did you clear the conflicting drivers? msp3400? |
| [19:18:00] | kahuna_: | yes. |
| [19:19:00] | mofu: | interrupt conflicts? |
| [19:19:00] | sandos: | a1fa: US? |
| [19:19:00] | kahuna_: | lets see about the interrupts. |
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| [19:19:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah |
| [19:19:00] | a1fa|64: | this delay is so bad |
| [19:20:00] | a1fa|64: | that i cant download mp3s |
| [19:20:00] | a1fa|64: | and watch tv at the same time |
| [19:20:00] | kahuna_: | yeah, ivtv0 and ATI IXP are on the same int. |
| [19:20:00] | a1fa|64: | ;( |
| [19:20:00] | kahuna_: | ATI IXP must be my ide controller |
| [19:20:00] | mofu: | kahuna_: try moving the pvr card down a slot . . . . |
| [19:21:00] | kahuna_: | lol. I cant. I had to mod my case just to fit it in the top slot. |
| [19:21:00] | mofu: | ok |
| [19:22:00] | mofu: | check to see if you can shift irq's in the BIOS . . . my only other suggestion |
| [19:22:00] | kahuna_: | I have a made for pvr box that has very little clearance for PCI and the PVR-150 is a huge card. |
| [19:22:00] | kahuna_: | I'll try that one out mofu. |
| [19:22:00] | kahuna_: | Interrupt sharing will do that? |
| [19:23:00] | Silence_: | new to x86, amd vs intel, does it make a difference for mythtv uses? |
| [19:24:00] | BigPeteB_: | Silence_: As long as it's fast enough, it shouldn't. |
| [19:24:00] | Silence_: | cool, amd has beeter prices |
| [19:24:00] | BigPeteB_: | People have their preferences, sure, but honestly I just went with what was cheaply available. |
| [19:32:00] | mofu: | Silence_: just make sure you chose a motherboard w/ a quality chipset, nforce for AMD, Intel for Intel |
| [19:32:00] | Silence_: | athlon 64 2800 fast enough? |
| [19:32:00] | mofu: | SiS and Via motherboards are nice and cheap, but I think the stability is better on the better stuff |
| [19:33:00] | mofu: | Silence_: for what? |
| [19:33:00] | mofu: | HD? |
| [19:33:00] | Silence_: | recording, and using sytem as desktop pc |
| [19:33:00] | Silence_: | eventually hd |
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| [19:34:00] | kahuna_: | A 2800 should be barely fast enough FWIH. I don't have one though. |
| [19:34:00] | mofu: | I think HD will use most to of it . . . not sure, I wouldn't want to try running desktop+HD, but it will handle SD NO PROBLEM |
| [19:35:00] | Silence_: | ok |
| [19:35:00] | kahuna_: | I'm really suprised about how nice vxid looks on my TV. |
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| [19:36:00] | kahuna_: | I thought it would be blocky for sure. I just might import my DVDs instead of having them on disk |
| [19:37:00] | mofu: | QAM256 anyone?? |
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| [19:40:00] | sandos: | vxid? you mean divx or xvid? |
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| [19:45:00] | simprix: | How can i set the OSD theme for myth |
| [19:46:00] | kahuna_: | yah. xvid heh. |
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| [19:51:00] | kahuna_: | Hmm. I'm compiling some software and my pvr-150 skips alot too. and yes, DMA is enabled. |
| [19:51:00] | kahuna_: | Odd. |
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| [19:54:00] | IRC: | hello? |
| [19:54:00] | IRC: | is anyone here? |
| [19:55:00] | laga: | nop |
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| [19:56:00] | IRC: | do you use mythtv? |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | yep |
| [19:58:00] | IRC: | did you have a hard time getting the knoppix to work with your hardware? |
| [19:59:00] | laga: | what knoppix? |
| [20:00:00] | IRC: | o sry i though this was the knoppix mythtv irc |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | you probably mean #knoppmyth :) |
| [20:00:00] | IRC: | what os did u install it on |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | debian sarge |
| [20:00:00] | IRC: | was it hard to setup? |
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| [20:01:00] | laga: | no, i don't think so |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | it depends on your experience with linux, i think |
| [20:01:00] | IRC: | what is your hardware on your box? |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | it's an asus pundit with a hauppauge pvr 250 |
| [20:02:00] | IRC: | what is the processor speed? |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | celeron 2.4ghz |
| [20:03:00] | IRC: | does it encode TV at a good speed? |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | it does video encoding in hardware, it doesn't take any cpu at all |
| [20:04:00] | IRC: | ooooo |
| [20:04:00] | IRC: | so the pvr does that for you |
| [20:05:00] | IRC: | does it encode in MPEG-2 |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | yep |
| [20:05:00] | IRC: | is mythtv like a tivo? |
| [20:06:00] | laga: | i've never seen a tivo in action. |
| [20:06:00] | IRC: | is the interface basically good? |
| [20:07:00] | laga: | yep! it's quite spiffy. |
| [20:07:00] | laga: | you can see screenshots at www.mythtv.org |
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| [20:07:00] | IRC: | yeah ive seen them but i cant decide if im going to build one |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | it's woth a try, imho |
| [20:09:00] | kahuna_: | "" |
| [20:09:00] | IRC: | do you have to have an HD tv in to use the program listing? |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | nope, i'm using an old SDTV |
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| [20:10:00] | IRC: | is that like just plain old cable? |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [20:11:00] | IRC: | how does the program listing work? |
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| [20:12:00] | laga: | very well |
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| [20:12:00] | laga: | (if you want good answers, ask good questions :P) |
| [20:12:00] | IRC: | :) |
| [20:12:00] | IRC: | does the program listing connect to a service, or is it run through like a cable box? |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | do you live in the US? |
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| [20:13:00] | IRC: | yeah |
| [20:13:00] | mofu: | I finally figured out my QAM256 over Digital Cable, running approx 80% CPU on 1080i playback while recording (semi-live) |
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| [20:13:00] | laga: | oh, that's good. you use zap2it then. you fill out a survey every 3 months or so and they give you your EPG data for free |
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| [20:14:00] | IRC: | laga: is zap2it really good or is it like bleeaahhh |
| [20:14:00] | mofu: | quite good |
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| [20:15:00] | IRC: | mofu: how long have you had a mythtv |
| [20:15:00] | mofu: | going on two years I think?? |
| [20:15:00] | IRC: | mofu: do you use it as a desktop or in your living room? |
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| [20:16:00] | mofu: | living room . . . , I have MythFrontend on my Powerbook also |
| [20:16:00] | IRC: | i dont understand, whats a frontend |
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| [20:17:00] | hpAuto: | heh |
| [20:17:00] | mofu: | backend=recording frontend=playback, they can exist on different boxes |
| [20:17:00] | IRC: | is it like for streaming across a network? |
| [20:17:00] | mofu: | you can watch livetv or recorded progs on any frontend on your network, |
| [20:18:00] | IRC: | o |
| [20:18:00] | IRC: | do you use a remote control for your mythtv? |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [20:18:00] | mofu: | I use a Radio Shack Universal Remote |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | mine came with my pvr 250 |
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| [20:19:00] | IRC: | did mythtv automatically recognize it? |
| [20:19:00] | gakalkag: | i use streamzap |
| [20:19:00] | mofu: | the new bigger Hauppauge remote is pretty nice, I think that's the one you got |
| [20:19:00] | laga: | mofu: nope, mine is the small one, unfortunately |
| [20:20:00] | mofu: | I use my remote through a IR keyboard receiver . . .had to prgram the remote w/ JP1 |
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| [20:20:00] | critch: | could someone in the know fix the FAQ pointed to in the topic to point to the bug tracker |
| [20:20:00] | IRC: | is there a remote that mythtv supports right out of the box? |
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| [20:21:00] | hpAuto: | does mythtv come in a box? |
| [20:21:00] | IRC: | :lol: |
| [20:21:00] | IRC: | i hope it does soon |
| [20:22:00] | laga: | that would be no fun. |
| [20:22:00] | critch: | hpAuto: it came out of my cable box into my computer box |
| [20:22:00] | mofu: | knoppmyth supports a lot of hardware "out of the box", including some remotes |
| [20:23:00] | IRC: | which remote comes ready to use without any already installed dependancys? |
| [20:24:00] | mofu: | remotes work through LIRC, not something Myth is in control of, but the PVR remotes are probably the easiest to setup with the documentation, and supplied config files |
| [20:25:00] | IRC: | mofu: what os did you install mythtv on |
| [20:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | elm |
| [20:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | stupid mouse. :) |
| [20:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | moved on me. |
| [20:26:00] | mofu: | Linux of course, . . . .I prefer Debian, but distro preference can be a personal choice |
| [20:26:00] | IRC: | mofu: im thinking about installing it ontop of ubuntu |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | i installed ubuntu yesterday on my laptop and i'm very impressed. |
| [20:27:00] | mofu: | should be fine, probably a better choice than Debian Unstable at the moment, To use Debian Stable you have to compile yourself. |
| [20:28:00] | IRC: | mofu: thats where i always get confused. i like linux, but i always have problems with compiling and decompiling stuff |
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| [20:29:00] | marc_in_lux: | good evening |
| [20:30:00] | mofu: | I think pre-compiled packages are available that will work w/ Ubuntu, MythTV Documentation is pretty good expains how to compile and install |
| [20:30:00] | marc_in_lux: | can anybody help me get an understanding of the video quality when using a hauppauge mediamvp as frontend? |
| [20:30:00] | marc_in_lux: | especially when compared to a PVR350's TV-out |
| [20:31:00] | marc_in_lux: | is it better, worse or about the same? |
| [20:31:00] | mofu: | marc_in_lux: I hear the 350 is pretty good, the mvp is not too bad though |
| [20:31:00] | marc_in_lux: | mofu, so you have no direct comparison? |
| [20:32:00] | marc_in_lux: | I use the pvr, and in terms of video quality I think it's stellar |
| [20:32:00] | mofu: | the interface of MVPMC is not nearly as nice a Myth though |
| [20:32:00] | marc_in_lux: | mofu, as long as I can watch recorded shows, that's what i need. |
| [20:32:00] | marc_in_lux: | other stuff I'm doing via mythweb. |
| [20:32:00] | Juski: | oo this is getting somewhere now... http://jusftp.no-ip.org/downloads/mayhemtheme.png |
| [20:33:00] | Juski: | ahem.. wong window |
| [20:33:00] | IRC: | nice tho |
| [20:33:00] | a1fa|64: | nice but too dark |
| [20:33:00] | mofu: | My Myth box is connected to my TV via VGA right now, so viewing composite playback from the MVP is a definete step down |
| [20:33:00] | Juski: | I like it dark :) |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | cool |
| [20:34:00] | Juski: | maybe my monitor needs calibrated again tho |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | i lik it bright |
| [20:34:00] | marc_in_lux: | mofu... ugh. Yeah. I though it only came with scart, not with composite? |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | myth developers need to learn design |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | sometimes it is so hard to read |
| [20:34:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | on screen text |
| [20:34:00] | mofu: | marc_in_lux: I'm in US |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | bcos everytime u highlight a textbox |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | the color is light blue |
| [20:34:00] | marc_in_lux: | mofu, aha. You haven't got scart, then? |
| [20:34:00] | a1fa|64: | with light text |
| [20:35:00] | mofu: | nope |
| [20:35:00] | a1fa|64: | so it doesnt make sence |
| [20:35:00] | Juski: | there's plenty of room for people to join in & design stuff |
| [20:36:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah.. |
| [20:36:00] | a1fa|64: | it is easy to read on a monitor |
| [20:36:00] | a1fa|64: | but hard to read on small tv screen |
| [20:36:00] | a1fa|64: | with rca-in |
| [20:37:00] | critch: | anyone having troupble with "watch TV" under current svn quickly(sub milisecond) returning to the main menu? |
| [20:37:00] | a1fa|64: | livetv is broken atm |
| [20:38:00] | critch: | figured it was a conscequence of running svn |
| [20:38:00] | IRC: | mofu: laga: thanks for your help |
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| [20:41:00] | critch: | a1fa|64: is there a known good rev to downgrade to? |
| [20:42:00] | Juski: | yeh.. like 0.18.1 |
| [20:42:00] | ** Juski hides ** | |
| [20:43:00] | critch: | Juski: I consider it a valid suggestion |
| [20:43:00] | mofu: | 0.18.1 works great unless you need the latest HD/DVB support |
| [20:43:00] | djperegrine: | critch, you could get the knoppmyth svn version it works well |
| [20:44:00] | critch: | I'm using the firewire support for my cable box |
| [20:44:00] | mofu: | critch: LiveTV is known to be broken in latest SVN |
| [20:45:00] | ** critch considers cannabalising extra machine for knopmyth. ** | |
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| [20:47:00] | critch: | I think I will go ahead and build the knopmyth box. Thanks guys |
| [20:51:00] | cosmo_: | anyone know what the status of reiser on gentoo64 is? The folks over in gentoo dont seem to know, and im finding conflicting information in wikis and articles |
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| [21:00:00] | jasta_: | wth. why does pressing "i" in mythmusic stop the music? |
| [21:00:00] | jasta_: | whenever i want to change the rating of a song, it pauses. |
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| [21:03:00] | slide: | What does 'transcode' mean? Is that just converting it from one format to another? |
| [21:03:00] | epoch: | correct |
| [21:03:00] | jasta: | transcode is a program which does precisely that. |
| [21:04:00] | slide: | hrm, ok so now i gotta find what it converts it to |
| [21:04:00] | jasta: | specifically decoding to a general stream, then encoding back into a specialized stream. |
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| [21:05:00] | jasta: | slide: transcode supports just about every format you're liable to think of. |
| [21:05:00] | jasta: | and is easily extended. |
| [21:05:00] | slide: | yea, but what is myth telling it hehe |
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| [21:07:00] | marc_in_lux: | what's the best filesystem to use these days for myth? lvm and a large volume? |
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| [21:08:00] | AndyS: | anyone using a harmony 880 with irman? |
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| [21:09:00] | AndyS: | I've got it all up ad running but I have to hit certain keys several times before they are recognized. |
| [21:10:00] | rachel: | hi guys, is there anyone here who can help me with the transcoding options? |
| [21:10:00] | slide: | rachel, hehe just what i was about to start looking into :) |
| [21:10:00] | mofu_: | marc_in_lux: I think XFS is prefered as long as its supported by your distro. I'm running RAID-0 on my backend right now . . . . |
| [21:11:00] | rachel: | i'm a little confused here as to what my settings should be in terms of the options in dvb encoders vs transcoders.. |
| [21:11:00] | mofu_: | rachel: satellite type stuff? |
| [21:11:00] | marc_in_lux: | mofu_, can one shrink an xfs filesystem nowadays |
| [21:11:00] | marc_in_lux: | ? |
| [21:12:00] | mofu_: | marc_in_lux: not sure . . . . |
| [21:12:00] | rachel: | finally got hdtv working but my machine seems to be too slow to play it regular, so i'm trying to set up transcoding options |
| [21:12:00] | mofu_: | rachel: what are your machine specs? |
| [21:13:00] | rachel: | for the frontend or backend? |
| [21:13:00] | rachel: | they're separate machines |
| [21:13:00] | mofu_: | my personal opinion is that transcoding HD defeats the purpose . . . |
| [21:13:00] | mofu_: | frontend |
| [21:13:00] | rachel: | yea, i've been trying to isolate if it's just the frontend machine is too slow or the network or twhat |
| [21:14:00] | rachel: | the frontend is 2.26ghz |
| [21:14:00] | mofu_: | rachel: if its 10/100 over Cat5 it should be fine for a couple streams |
| [21:14:00] | mofu_: | 2.26Ghz? what type? |
| [21:14:00] | rachel: | p4 |
| [21:15:00] | mofu_: | probably a little short, do you have dual channel memory on the motherboard? |
| [21:15:00] | rachel: | no |
| [21:16:00] | AndyS: | #help |
| [21:16:00] | AndyS: | ? |
| [21:16:00] | mofu_: | I have 2.8Ghz Celeron-D w/512MB on Dual Channel board . . . . about 80% at 1080i |
| [21:16:00] | mofu_: | I would say no chance w/o dual channel at only 2.26 . . . . sorry, |
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| [21:16:00] | rachel: | yea, that's why i'm trying to get transcoding set up. |
| [21:17:00] | mofu_: | you do have a good video card? 5200 or better? |
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| [21:17:00] | ziggy2: | juski: if you're still around, i got it to work.... had the wrong libs getting picked up for lircd, deleted the wrong ones and it works great |
| [21:17:00] | rachel: | it's an sis 740 |
| [21:17:00] | rachel: | the frontend machine is a digimatriz |
| [21:17:00] | rachel: | x rather |
| [21:17:00] | slide: | Should i not bother with transcoding if i only have like a 1.7Ghz? |
| [21:17:00] | slide: | Is that too slow? |
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| [21:18:00] | rachel: | i guess i'm wondering why the same questions are asked in the transcoding section as well as the hardware dvb settings section |
| [21:18:00] | mofu_: | I think Nvidia stuff is helpful also, have you seen any reports of people using Digimatrix successfully as HD frontend? |
| [21:19:00] | mofu_: | it probably needs to understand what stream type its working with |
| [21:19:00] | Juski: | ziggy2: excellent news! |
| [21:19:00] | mofu_: | sorry, don't know much about transcoding . . . |
| [21:19:00] | rachel: | thanks anyway mofu_ |
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| [21:27:00] | mofu_: | rachel, I assume you have winischhofer drivers installed? |
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| [21:37:00] | rachel: | here's another easier question actually, what does the heart mean on the previous recordings section |
| [21:37:00] | rachel: | mofu_: yea |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | rachel: hit f1 |
| [21:37:00] | rachel: | aaah thanks |
| [21:38:00] | rachel: | never seen that |
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| [21:44:00] | slide: | Should i transcode before commercial flagging or not? |
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| [21:47:00] | slide: | "start the setup program under the host-specific settings" What does that mean? run mythtv-setup ?? |
| [21:49:00] | slide: | arg i cant find where to transcoding profiles are |
| [21:51:00] | slide: | n/m found em heh |
| [21:55:00] | slide: | Whats the difference between RTjpeg and MPEG-4? |
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| [22:18:00] | jayeff: | chris petersen around? i'm sure he used to be on this channel |
| [22:19:00] | jayeff: | though anyone with nuvexport working might be able to help |
| [22:19:00] | Krazylegz: | His handle is xris. |
| [22:20:00] | jayeff: | ahh, yes, now you mention it i do remember that was it |
| [22:20:00] | jayeff: | which means he's not about :) |
| [22:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Not right now. Try maybe tomorrow after 9am PST. |
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| [22:26:00] | jayeff: | pst is gmt+8 ? |
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| [22:29:00] | a1fa|64: | hm |
| [22:29:00] | a1fa|64: | i think its +7 |
| [22:30:00] | a1fa|64: | or no |
| [22:30:00] | a1fa|64: | +8 |
| [22:30:00] | a1fa|64: | ur right |
| [22:30:00] | a1fa|64: | GMT-8, rather |
| [22:30:00] | a1fa|64: | GMT+8 is asia |
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| [22:31:00] | a1fa|64: | bejing and hong kong are gmt+8 |
| [22:31:00] | jayeff: | doh! of course |
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| [22:40:00] | Silence_: | Dvico fusion 5 gold, is this well supported in linux or will take a lot of work to get it working? also, I've heard that mythtv backend craps out if you switch from an hd channel to an sd channel with this card, is this true? |
| [22:42:00] | Gumby: | does anyone here use the pvr500? Just wondering if it takes much fuss getting it to work with mythtv. |
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| [23:04:00] | slide: | Is there anyway in mythfrontend to tell it to transcode a recording? |
| [23:04:00] | mofu_: | yep |
| [23:04:00] | slide: | hrm i cant find it |
| [23:04:00] | mofu_: | in setup somewhere . . . |
| [23:04:00] | slide: | er i mean like transcode an already recorded show |
| [23:04:00] | slide: | sorry |
| [23:06:00] | mofu_: | X |
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| [23:06:00] | mofu_: | X= queue transcode |
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| [23:08:00] | slide: | hrm |
| [23:10:00] | mofu_: | you might have be playing back the recording |
| [23:10:00] | mofu_: | not something I use |
| [23:10:00] | slide: | yea i went to watch it and then hit x which queeued it |
| [23:10:00] | slide: | but i got an error and it didnt transcode |
| [23:10:00] | slide: | the log says it doesnt have the codec |
| [23:11:00] | slide: | im changing the default transcoding profile from RTjpg to mpeg4 |
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| [23:13:00] | slide: | arg |
| [23:14:00] | slide: | arg, "Unknown video code:" |
| [23:14:00] | slide: | er codec |
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| [23:31:00] | slide: | LOL "User Rating: 4.93566e-34" hahah |
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| [23:39:00] | Juski: | what was that for? revenge of the sith? |
| [23:42:00] | slide: | uhm 50 first dates |
| [23:43:00] | Juski: | better make that 4.93566e-79 then |
| [23:43:00] | slide: | Its in my videos, not a recording or anything so i dont think myth cognizes what it is exactly |
| [23:43:00] | Juski: | scan the IMDB ;) |
| [23:43:00] | slide: | But how do i put it in? |
| [23:44:00] | Juski: | video manager |
| [23:44:00] | Juski: | select the vid in question then press 'i' |
| [23:44:00] | slide: | AAAH |
| [23:44:00] | slide: | lol i was just hitting enter and it was giving me some other options |
| [23:44:00] | slide: | thanks! |
| [23:45:00] | slide: | Will it automatically get cover art? ;) |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | should do |
| [23:45:00] | slide: | sweet |
| [23:45:00] | slide: | thanks alot! hehe |
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