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    datetime:  2010-12-05 01:24:38 (UTC)
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Friday, October 28th, 2005, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:00] jd86: hrm
[00:01:00] jd86: taht might
[00:02:00] screevo: Hm. Well, Mysqld is now running, still cant connect
[00:02:00] jd86: 2005-10–27 18:02:18.070 6 128000 << in mythbackend logs.. what do they mean?
[00:03:00] k-man_: hey
[00:03:00] Krazylegz: screevo: Is MySQL listening on TCP 3306?
[00:03:00] k-man_: i have this problem
[00:03:00] k-man_: mythtv was working fine
[00:03:00] k-man_: now i can't watch live tv
[00:03:00] screevo: How do I test that
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[00:04:00] Krazylegz: screevo: netstat -l | grep mysql
[00:04:00] k-man_: when i try and watch live tv, it just gives me a blank screen for a few minutes and then drops back to the menu
[00:04:00] k-man_: i had something similar once when it was trying to start on a non existant channel
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[00:04:00] k-man_: but i tried resetting the starting channel to a known good channel but that didn't fix it
[00:06:00] screevo: it say stream listening 107775
[00:06:00] screevo: and also 111403
[00:06:00] Krazylegz: It's not listening on a TCP port?
[00:07:00] screevo: heres exacly what it says
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[00:07:00] Krazylegz: Oh no. Pastebin.
[00:07:00] screevo: unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 107775 /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[00:07:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, that's not what you want.
[00:07:00] screevo: unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 111403 /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[00:07:00] Krazylegz: You will have to edit your my.cnf file and uncomment the line "skip-networking".
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[00:08:00] jkary: Hello. Can anyone point me in the right direction for configuring directv channel changing? It seems the perl/c/other scripts all seem to timeout waiting for a response???
[00:08:00] screevo: skip-networking is NOT commented
[00:08:00] jkary: I used to have it working and I suspect it is due to the new software in the D10–100 box.
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[00:09:00] eidolon: ya know, i finally get around to doing my install, and the knoppmyth folks crank a new version out.
[00:09:00] ** eidolon goes to download the latest. **
[00:09:00] triplep: bizzaro.... why would i be getting sound on some channels and not on some others?
[00:10:00] Krazylegz: screevo: How about the line: port = 3306 ?
[00:10:00] BishounenNightBi: hm..
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[00:10:00] screevo: Its there
[00:11:00] screevo: Im going to try rebooting, see if that does anything
[00:11:00] Krazylegz: Did you try restarting MySQL?
[00:11:00] screevo: Im rebooting the whole box right now
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[00:22:00] eidolon: hmm. this is not good. i did the R4 knoppmyth install, rebooted, it says basically "Boot record found on hda", and then just sits there.
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[00:22:00] Krazylegz: eidolon: That's not the newest version of KnoppMyth.
[00:34:00] eidolon: yah, i know... i'm downloading R5 now.
[00:35:00] eidolon: the R4 is what i had on hand :)
[00:35:00] Krazylegz: R5A16?
[00:35:00] Krazylegz: That's what I used.
[00:35:00] eidolon: R5A22
[00:35:00] Krazylegz: Whoa, that's newer.
[00:36:00] Krazylegz: "Release 5 Alpha 22 "Crouching Tiger, High-Def Dragon""
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[00:36:00] SqWaw: smoke_,
[00:36:00] SqWaw: smoke_, How's it going with the blaster?
[00:36:00] eidolon: yup.
[00:36:00] Skiingsean: anyone ever figure out what versions of mame are supported and or how to get em to work
[00:37:00] eidolon: i hope to run mame on this machine.
[00:37:00] smoke_: SqWaw, compiling lirc modules right now heh i got alot on my plate :)
[00:37:00] eidolon: 258k/sec download. *drums fingers*
[00:37:00] SqWaw: LOL k
[00:38:00] SqWaw: Skiingsean, Current known supported xmame version (MythTV version 0.18.1): 0.97
[00:38:00] Skiingsean: :/ i had .97 it told me no, so now im trying to compile the ENORMOUS and annoying 0.101 thats 15mb
[00:39:00] SqWaw: heh
[00:39:00] SqWaw: i got that from google...
[00:39:00] SqWaw: http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythGameHowTo
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[00:39:00] Skiingsean: yeah i saw that too
[00:41:00] SqWaw: I have the optimize_mythbd.pl script and when I run it, it ouputs loads of errors to the screen... like: http://pastebin.ca/26842
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[00:48:00] rsdvd: hi! are there any minimyth experts in tonight?
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[01:04:00] rjune: what is minimyth
[01:04:00] rsdvd: a small linux distro for the EPIA M10k
[01:05:00] rjune: neat
[01:06:00] rsdvd: :-) it will be when I can get it to work
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[01:43:00] _Nero_: Anyone else have troubles with screen tearing? It is happening quite a bit when running visualizations in mythmusic..
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[02:01:00] Skiingsean: is it possible to burn a VCD or SVCD with xine "and" subtitle .srt file
[02:02:00] dev-: xine burns shit?
[02:02:00] dev-: thats news to me
[02:02:00] Skiingsean: i dont know
[02:02:00] dev-: thought it was just a player
[02:02:00] Skiingsean: thats why i was asking
[02:02:00] Skiingsean: :P
[02:02:00] dev-: heh
[02:03:00] dev-: this channels about myth not burning things on unix
[02:03:00] Skiingsean: i havent be around long enough to do everything in Linux.. im still a way noob
[02:03:00] Skiingsean: yeah yeah i know.. But I knew that myth ripped dvd's etc.. ive been talking in here with people for a few days.. and figured some in here might know more than some of the OTHER channels ive been in
[02:03:00] dev-: k3b is a nice frontend to a bunch of utils, like growisofs, that burns things on unix
[02:03:00] dev-: check it out
[02:04:00] Skiingsean: <nod> will do.. i was learning bout growisofs and mkisofs last night.. you know if any of them can burn with the .srt files
[02:04:00] dev-: never tried
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[02:04:00] Skiingsean: :) ookies ill look into it
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[02:33:00] eidolon: has anyone had problems with the knoppmyth install hanging after reboot with:Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0..OK
[02:33:00] eidolon: and just sitting there?
[02:33:00] \Grooby\: you can go ask in #knoppmyth
[02:34:00] Dagmar: This is the first reboot after installing, right?
[02:34:00] \Grooby\: and no i don't know
[02:34:00] \Grooby\: :)
[02:34:00] Dagmar: ...and that's likely your BIOS saying "Searching for..." I'm guessing.
[02:34:00] eidolon: first reboot after install, yes.
[02:34:00] eidolon: it booted off the cd fine.
[02:34:00] kormoc: it's a bios issue
[02:34:00] eidolon: (my understanding is #knoppmyth is the developer channel)
[02:34:00] kormoc: or a grub issue
[02:35:00] kormoc: not a myth issue.
[02:35:00] Dagmar: Meaning you told the script it uses to invoke lilo that you wanted it installed to the partition table, which you do not have flagged as bootable.
[02:35:00] Dagmar: Have it install to the MBR of the disk and the thing should work again
[02:35:00] eidolon: innnteresting. knoppmyth did that.
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[02:35:00] eidolon: it never asked me anything about details. just said "Use the whole drive?" "Yup!"
[02:36:00] Dagmar: Weird. It may have assumed that then. I wouldn't remember any newbie install thing being in there tho
[02:36:00] Dagmar: I never use wizards when I have half a clue what I'm doing
[02:36:00] eidolon: i wonder if knoppmyth is confused about having 2 HD's in it.
[02:36:00] Dagmar: Could be
[02:36:00] eidolon: okay, lemme yank one of the drives. Stand by. :)
[02:37:00] Dagmar: I know for sure that 5A22 had a few spectacularly dumb things broken when I installed it a few days ago
[02:37:00] hari_seldon99: hi
[02:37:00] eidolon: *snrk*
[02:37:00] eidolon: that doesn't make me feel good :)
[02:37:00] Dagmar: I had to edit the .knocfg or whatever just to tell it where the freaking drive was
[02:37:00] eidolon: things that are fixable?
[02:37:00] eidolon: k.
[02:37:00] eidolon: hang on, opening up the pc to change drives.
[02:37:00] hari_seldon99: I just installed another pvr150 tuner in my box and configged it in mythtvsetup, but now whenever I try to watch tv, mythtv hangs
[02:38:00] Dagmar: hari_seldon99: The ivtv module sees both cards?
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[02:38:00] hari_seldon99: I think so
[02:38:00] hari_seldon99: how can I check?
[02:38:00] hari_seldon99: I did dmesg|grep MPEG and saw 2 entries
[02:38:00] Dagmar: eidolon: When I saw the business about the drive to isntall to being undefined I nearly shut down to remove my main devel drive from the box
[02:39:00] Dagmar: hari_seldon99: You basically just look at what it's writing to /var/log/messages when it loads and it should be fairly obvious
[02:39:00] hari_seldon99: hang on, I'm rebooting the pvr because it's hanging...
[02:39:00] Dagmar: I don't know how well that card/driver handles a shared IRQ tho
[02:40:00] Dagmar: I'm figuring if you have them in slots that share the same IRQ there might be issues, since the PVR 500 definitely grabs 2 of them
[02:40:00] hari_seldon99: If it did detect both cards, then one shuld be /dev/video0 and other /dev/video1, right?
[02:40:00] Dagmar: In theory, yeah
[02:40:00] hari_seldon99: My other card is the pvr 350 and I'm using it's tv-out
[02:41:00] Dagmar: The next thing I'd suggest is just trying to cat /dev/video0 > /dev/null, and then do the same for video1 to make sure it's nothing to do with the ivtv driver or hardware
[02:41:00] hari_seldon99: the problem is, I run cat /dev/video0>mpeg, and I get video, I run cat /dev/video1>mpeg1, I get an empty file
[02:41:00] Dagmar: THAT sounds like it might be getting "interesting" to the module and "interesting" is not good
[02:41:00] Dagmar: Look VERY closely at whats going into /var/log/messages
[02:41:00] hari_seldon99: ok, hang on
[02:42:00] Dagmar: Dollars to doughnuts the driver has decided they're both a PVR 150 or both a PVR 350 or something equally unwholesome
[02:43:00] Dagmar: It's a shame there's no way to make a generically distributed public distcc
[02:43:00] Dagmar: I would love to have these bloody compiles go faster today
[02:43:00] \Grooby\: :(
[02:44:00] Dagmar: \Grooby\: what makes it extra groovy for me is that I'm building two slightly different packages of MythTV. One with ivtv support and one without it. So this is just extra slow for me to get to use the things
[02:44:00] \Grooby\: hehehehe
[02:45:00] \Grooby\: distcc didn't really help me that much
[02:45:00] Dagmar: Looks like Paul Best may be helping test these things for me, so it's likely there could be a large number of Dropline users who could use these
[02:45:00] Dagmar: I really despise lirc for packaging tho
[02:46:00] Dagmar: I just can't see any reasonable way to do it without compiling the thing 25 different times
[02:46:00] \Grooby\: hd3k is really killing me
[02:46:00] Dagmar: hd3k?
[02:46:00] \Grooby\: hd3000
[02:46:00] Dagmar: I was slightly amused to find that I won't need to buy one of those
[02:47:00] hari_seldon99: ok, here's the recent output from /var/log/messages: http://pastebin.ca/26885
[02:47:00] \Grooby\: oh?
[02:47:00] \Grooby\: how's that?
[02:47:00] Dagmar: Firewire ports are supposed to be built into *all* digital cable boxes deployed in the US.
[02:47:00] Dagmar: Like, by law.
[02:47:00] \Grooby\: nice
[02:47:00] hari_seldon99: there does appear to be an IRQ interrupt thingie
[02:48:00] Dagmar: hari_seldon99: You will probably want to look into your BIOS configurator and see if mentions which PCI slots are sharing their IRQs
[02:48:00] hari_seldon99: ok
[02:49:00] hari_seldon99: once I go to my BIOS, how do I rectify this "sharing IRQ;s?"
[02:49:00] Dagmar: Like, on my motherboard, I have six PCI slots, but 1 shares it's IRQ with the AGP slot, 6 is all by itself, but 1 & 3, and 2 & 4 share IRQs
[02:49:00] Dagmar: If you've got the cards in slots that are sharing IRQs, you just need to move the card to one that's not sharing
[02:49:00] eidolon: note to self – HD's work better when the IDE cable is actually attzached to the drive.
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[02:50:00] Dagmar: ...and if you have more than three PCI slots on the board it's likely that one of them is shared with something else
[02:50:00] hari_seldon99: here's the thing, my box is an old compaq deskpro
[02:50:00] Dagmar: So then it's got what, four PCI slots and no AGP??
[02:50:00] hari_seldon99: and the 3 PCI slots are actually detachable and connected to one slot
[02:50:00] Dagmar: (one ? there, sorry)
[02:50:00] hari_seldon99: Culd that be why they are sharing IRQ's?
[02:51:00] Dagmar: God I would just die if their daughter card were just a single-slot expansion, but I don't think they were that stupid.
[02:51:00] Dagmar: Look for something in the BIOS that talks about what IRQs are assigned to them
[02:51:00] hari_seldon99: ok
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[02:51:00] hari_seldon99: I'll have to go offline for that
[02:51:00] Dagmar: They really shouldn't all wind up on the same IRQ. I never looked at them closely but they didn't look like anything other than a normal PCI bridge to me
[02:52:00] _Nero_: Anyone here running a nvidia card through svideo?
[02:52:00] Dagmar: Ah just grab a flashlight and peek inside
[02:52:00] _Nero_: I am driving myself up a wall on this one.. re-installed the 7676 drivers, and suddenly my perfectly good xorg.conf file no longer works..
[02:53:00] Dagmar: ...and it's not so random that I know about that hardware. I spent four years doing on-site PC repair for the state/city gov't here
[02:53:00] hari_seldon99: ok, I'll go offline now, then I'll report back
[02:53:00] hari_seldon99: Thanks in advance
[02:53:00] Dagmar: _Nero_: Check yer Xorg.0.log. It may be telling you something important
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[02:54:00] Dagmar: You *really* don't want to strace X.  ;)
[02:54:00] _Nero_: Dagmar- went through it.. telling me: "Screens found, but none have a usable configuration"..
[02:54:00] _Nero_: there appears to be nothing wrong with my screen config.. ugh..
[02:55:00] Dagmar: Did you specify the VGA and s-video as different displays?
[02:55:00] _Nero_: dont think so.. only specified s-video.. (as in the wilson fedora howto) as I dont have any vga conencted..
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[02:56:00] Dagmar: Strange. You have the s-video plugged into something, right?
[02:56:00] _Nero_: hehe.. yes.. of course..
[02:56:00] _Nero_: console is outputting fine to the TV..
[02:56:00] Dagmar: You sure you didn't maybe accidentally compile nVidia framebuffer support into the kernel?
[02:56:00] _Nero_: not sure.. it is the stock fedora kernel.
[02:56:00] Dagmar: That breaks their kernel module in fun and exciting ways
[02:57:00] Dagmar: Don't ever let it load the nvidia framebuffer module then.
[02:57:00] Dagmar: It can use the VESA driver for framebuffer just fine
[02:57:00] _Nero_: I dont beleive it is loading the nvidia framebuffer..
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[02:58:00] Dagmar: Well, if your previously working xorg.conf has suddenly ceased to work, something's got to have changed in the the way the driver module is behaving
[02:58:00] _Nero_: regardless- I was using the atrpms nvidia module, but it seemed very flakey (7676 version).. so I uninstall the atrpms version, then compile the 7676 from source, and now, no go..
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[02:58:00] Dagmar: Ah hah
[02:58:00] Dagmar: That's what changed then
[02:58:00] Dagmar: :)
[02:58:00] _Nero_: exactly..
[02:59:00] _Nero_: went from atrmps version to vanilla..
[02:59:00] _Nero_: still not sure why that would break things..
[02:59:00] Dagmar: You're sure that didn't change xorg to using the "nv" driver?
[02:59:00] _Nero_: yup.. it is loading the "nvidia" driver..
[03:00:00] Dagmar: Surely somethign somewhere in there is carping abuot something it doens't like
[03:00:00] _Nero_: 'Driver "nvidia"'
[03:00:00] _Nero_: here is the error where it aborts: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[03:01:00] Dagmar: Somewhere above that it will have a little conversation with the display (or try to) using EDID and then from there begin disqualifying display configurations.
[03:01:00] Dagmar: Make sure it's not deciding something weird and just flatly disqualifying everything as a result
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[03:02:00] _Nero_: hurmm.. I think I found it.. further up, there is a "failure to load nvidia kernel module" doh!
[03:03:00] _Nero_: Thanks for the pushing Dagmar..  :)
[03:03:00] Dagmar: No problem
[03:03:00] _Nero_: and no hard feelings about yesterday.. :)
[03:04:00] Dagmar: Heh. I don't even remember yesterday
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[03:04:00] _Nero_: haha.. good.. ;)
[03:04:00] red_fox: I just made some meatballs off of Good Eats
[03:04:00] red_fox: these things are awesome
[03:04:00] red_fox: Just thought you guys would like to know ;-)
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[03:07:00] ** xris doesn't do great balls of meat **
[03:07:00] red_fox: xris, you should try it sometime
[03:07:00] _Nero_: Got it working.. :)
[03:07:00] red_fox: I didn't know I was this good of a chef
[03:07:00] xris: red_fox: I haven't eaten meat in 8–9 years
[03:08:00] xris: well, intentionally...
[03:08:00] red_fox: ah wel then maybe not ;-)
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[03:08:00] Dagmar: Thank god for gnuplot
[03:08:00] _Nero_: the atrpms had called the nvidia module nvidia_1.0_7676, whereas the vanilla drivers were built as nvidia
[03:08:00] _Nero_: gnuplot is great.. :) and the devil at the same time..
[03:08:00] Dagmar: It beats wading through GD.pm's docs when you're this tired
[03:08:00] Dagmar: Trying to figure out what the heck is up with my AST IR reciever
[03:09:00] xris: Dagmar: perlMagick
[03:09:00] Dagmar: xris: gnuplot I just happen to remember how to use
[03:09:00] Dagmar: I'm just having it scribble in the root windo
[03:09:00] xris: heh
[03:11:00] Dagmar: Bleh. Someone needs to do something about the lack of any decently interesting cases available
[03:11:00] xris: Dagmar: I agree
[03:11:00] Dagmar: There's like one company I've found doing interesting cases, and their work is practically the krylon catalog, item for item
[03:11:00] Dagmar: I can do that myself, although it would require a trip out to the parent's garage.
[03:12:00] Dagmar: Apartment complexes tend to frown on indoor spray painting.
[03:12:00] Dagmar: ;)
[03:12:00] Dagmar: The last time I bought a case it was strictly because it had a handle built into the top and was mostly plastic and aluminum.
[03:12:00] Dagmar: The time before that I managed to get an anime cat case.
[03:13:00] Dagmar: Now there's practically jack and sqaut available that isn't boring or hellishly impractical
[03:13:00] xris: Dagmar: media pc case? silverstone is pretty much the best imho
[03:13:00] Dagmar: No i'm looking for a desktop
[03:13:00] Dagmar: er mid tower that is
[03:14:00] Dagmar: I really don't care what my PVR looks like so I'm basically taking the hardware I'm using now and making it the PVR.
[03:14:00] Dagmar: ...and a handle on the PVR will be handy.
[03:14:00] Dagmar: It's like everyone who makes cases with 120mm fan mounts seems to think their customers are all ultra-conservatives
[03:15:00] _Nero_: here's a yummy error message: http://pastebin.com/408479
[03:15:00] _Nero_: now where the heck is that coming from?
[03:15:00] Dagmar: *shudder*
[03:15:00] Dagmar: That is nasty
[03:15:00] xris: Dagmar: then you want btx.. or a shuttle.
[03:16:00] xris: well, btx if you prefer intel
[03:16:00] Dagmar: xris: Another reason I am going with a mid tower is that I have *HAD IT* with putting together a PC the way you'd work on a tetris game.
[03:16:00] xris: heh
[03:16:00] Dagmar: I have a full tower around here somewhere.
[03:17:00] _Nero_: any ideas on this?
[03:17:00] Dagmar: Big cases make good furniture
[03:17:00] Dagmar: _Nero_: Does it do this *each* time?
[03:17:00] Dagmar: Like if you do a make distclean and start over do you get the same result or a different one.
[03:17:00] _Nero_: Dagmar- each time I try to compile..
[03:17:00] Dagmar: Different would be VERY bad
[03:17:00] _Nero_: lemme try a distclean once again just to make sure
[03:18:00] Dagmar: It's an assembler issue and those basically just shouldn't happen
[03:18:00] Dagmar: Hey you wedged pentium4 in there
[03:18:00] Dagmar: Was it you that did that or did it pick that on it's own?
[03:18:00] _Nero_: Dagmar- picked it on its own..
[03:18:00] Dagmar: I noticed earlier that all this crap is using ffmpeg's configure script
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[03:19:00] _Nero_: (it is a P4 system)
[03:19:00] Dagmar: ...and it's pretty convinced that i686 doesn't do MMX for some reason
[03:19:00] Dagmar: I've got the dropline package I'm working on building for athlon-xp instead just to make sure I don't have to force --enable-mmx. I figured it would be bad.
[03:20:00] xris: Dagmar: ffmpeg has overrides internally for its own compile options.
[03:20:00] xris: it's a PITA
[03:20:00] Dagmar: ...and the end of that filename hints that it might well be doing something the compiler thinks isn't kosher for -march=pentium4, but that's mostly a guess
[03:21:00] _Nero_: yup.. just choked again
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[03:21:00] Dagmar: It does the same thing if you change the -march specification?
[03:21:00] awb4422: hey all
[03:21:00] _Nero_: what should I change it to?
[03:21:00] Dagmar: Seriously. Assembler errors like that aren't spposed to be able to happen.
[03:22:00] Dagmar: Try changing it to athlon-xp for the moment
[03:22:00] Dagmar: Hmm... or it could just be that the svn is currently on fire for that module
[03:23:00] Dagmar: I just noticed it's not 0.18
[03:23:00] _Nero_: athlon-xp does the same thing
[03:24:00] Dagmar: Ouch Probably on fire. Try 0.18 then
[03:25:00] Dagmar: There's no rule that says you can't skip that module in svn and use the one from 0.18.  :)
[03:25:00] _Nero_: humm.. just did an svn update, and that file was updated..
[03:25:00] _Nero_: lets see if that fixes it..
[03:25:00] awb4422: I've been kind of out of the loop since before the new rev of the air2pc (back in may/june timeframe). After reading the wiki, it seems like it hasn't been updated in a little while... Are there any problems with the new air2pc cards, or is it better to go w/ an hd3000?
[03:26:00] Dagmar: awb4422: You have digital cable and are in the US?
[03:26:00] awb4422: right now, OTA, but planning digital cable
[03:26:00] awb4422: and yes, US
[03:26:00] Dagmar: Check your cable box for a firewire port then
[03:26:00] awb4422: i know i dont have one right now
[03:27:00] awb4422: its not an HD cable box
[03:27:00] Dagmar: The svn of mythtv supports controlling digital cable boxes over their firewire port. No tuner card needed
[03:27:00] awb4422: interesting
[03:27:00] Dagmar: You will get HD through it if the box supports recieveing those channels at all
[03:27:00] Dagmar: It will be SCADS of data tho. Very CPU consumptive
[03:27:00] Dagmar: We found this out from one of the KnoppMyth devs who lives in Nashville last weekend.
[03:28:00] Dagmar: One of the NLUG guys promptly went home and got it working with his on Comcast
[03:28:00] ** xris wishes that Dish would do the same **
[03:28:00] awb4422: a non hd cable box?
[03:28:00] awb4422: sheesh, let me go check mine
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[03:28:00] awb4422: i know we have digital cable
[03:28:00] xris: only legally required to provide it on HD boxes
[03:28:00] Dagmar: The ones here are all HD-capable
[03:28:00] hari_seldon99: hi
[03:29:00] hari_seldon99: I'm back
[03:29:00] Dagmar: Fat lot of good it does on a non-HD television but they're there
[03:29:00] hari_seldon99: I looked at the BIOS of my pvr for IRQ Conflicts
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[03:29:00] xris: Dagmar: doesn't mean anything. they're only *required* to provide it if you pay for HD content. only required to provide 480p, too, though I think it's easier for them to not resample the feed.
[03:29:00] hari_seldon99: I took pics, they're at http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/bios/3.jpg
[03:29:00] awb4422: dang, no firewire :(
[03:30:00] hari_seldon99: on the 3rd pic, thre do appear to be different devices with the same IRQ
[03:30:00] hari_seldon99: I see 2 "Video Devices" (presumable my pvr 250 & 350"
[03:30:00] Dagmar: Ick. Ethernet and video sharing IRQs
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[03:30:00] Dagmar: That is just messy
[03:30:00] hari_seldon99: the problem is that I can't seem to resolve the conflicts
[03:31:00] hari_seldon99: as the only "IRQ's" I have are 5,10,11
[03:31:00] hari_seldon99: ???!???!?? :(
[03:31:00] awb4422: one of my buddies has a pchd3000. I think i'll just wait to see how his is
[03:31:00] hari_seldon99: Is there a way out?
[03:31:00] Dagmar: You're using a PS/2 mouse?
[03:31:00] hari_seldon99: yes
[03:31:00] hari_seldon99: I can't remove it else the bios freezes
[03:31:00] Dagmar: Okay, so 12 is out... That leaves us with 5, 7, 9, 10, and 11.
[03:32:00] hari_seldon99: I only see 5,10 & 11 in the menu
[03:32:00] pmowry: Hi, Anyone want to help an idiot? All I want is a key to pop up current date/time. I'm trying to use mythtvosd, but with no luck.
[03:32:00] awb4422: thanks everyone
[03:32:00] Dagmar: Audio on 5, ethernet on 11, VGA on 9 would be the "normal" way to do it, and then you'd just disable the LPT port and put one tuner on 7 and the other on 10
[03:32:00] hari_seldon99: The menu doesn't allow me to change to any value other than 5,10 & 11
[03:32:00] hari_seldon99: wierd
[03:32:00] Dagmar: ...but I'm not sure if you can make the BIOS do that
[03:33:00] Dagmar: The VGA card really should be able to go on 9
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[03:34:00] hari_seldon99: how do I set VGA to 9?
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[03:35:00] Dagmar: In theory by prodding that section of hte BIOS until 9 appears.
[03:35:00] Dagmar: ;)
[03:35:00] hari_seldon99: Even if I disable VGA (I'm using tv-out on the pvr350 anyway, I still can't resolve all the conflicts (there is another one)
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[03:35:00] hari_seldon99: Dagmar: I did, and only 5,10 & 11 show up
[03:36:00] Dagmar: Just worry about the tuner cards and cross your fingers on the rest
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[03:36:00] hari_seldon99: so I keep unique irq's for the tuner cards and damn the others?
[03:36:00] Dagmar: It will at least show whether or not that is your problem.
[03:37:00] hari_seldon99: I see
[03:37:00] hari_seldon99: will that affect the Bus ID's of the devices (coz I had to put that into XF86Config-4 for tv-out)?
[03:37:00] hari_seldon99: of the pvr350 I mean
[03:37:00] Dagmar: It shouldn't, but I can' tbe sure
[03:37:00] hari_seldon99: The combinatorics still don't work out
[03:37:00] Dagmar: Just look at 'em in /proc/pci
[03:38:00] travail101: I can't seem to change channels, and the one channel I can get, is the one last viewed from other programs, such as mplayer, or tvtime, and that one channel flickers, has bad color, and goes about 2 frames per second
[03:38:00] Dagmar: ugh naptime for me
[03:38:00] hari_seldon99: If I set irq's 10 & 11 for the tuners, then I have only IRQ 5 left, should I assign that to ALL the other devices?
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[03:41:00] travail101: any ideas?
[03:42:00] travail101: grrr
[03:44:00] hari_seldon99: Will that work? If I set irq 5 for all other non-tuner PCI devices?
[03:44:00] hari_seldon99: There are 4 others
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[03:47:00] travail101: can mythtv be setup to use tvtime or mplayer for it's tuner backend?
[03:49:00] travail101: or... maybe... someone knows how mythtv deals with tuning
[03:49:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: No, myth only uses mythbackend for recording
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[03:52:00] travail101: I don't need to record
[03:52:00] travail101: I just need to be able to watch TV
[03:52:00] travail101: it can't even tune properly... I don't know what's wrong with it... mplayer and tvtime both tune fine
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[03:54:00] GreyFoxx: livetv is recording and playback combined
[03:54:00] myth: how can i turn off the cx880 debug messages? Its filling my kernel log and decreasing performance.
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[04:05:00] _Nero_: now just to find out why anything full screen is shaky.. (looks like it is related to open gl..
[04:06:00] travail101: does that mean it's not recording fast enough?
[04:06:00] travail101: or...
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[04:23:00] hari_seldon99: Hi
[04:23:00] hari_seldon99: I'm back
[04:23:00] hari_seldon99: I made the video device IRQ's nondegenerate in my BIOS, and STILL the damn pvr150 won't work
[04:24:00] hari_seldon99: anybody offer suggestions?
[04:26:00] pmowry: twmrc ?: is this vallid :? "F5" = : all : "mythtvosd --template=alert --alert_text=\"`date`\""
[04:27:00] pmowry: Not sure if \ is the right wat to escape a " in twmrc and the man page is not much help.
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[04:32:00] brikus: Anyone alive out there/
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[04:33:00] hari_seldon99: Here are the steps I took to adding a second tuner:1. put it in a PCI slot 2. booted my PVR (knoppmyth R5A16), 3. in mythtv-setup, defined the other input card as /MPEG type (PVR250,350), on /dev/video1 tuner 0 4. Then Input Connections, /dev/video1 tuner 0 --> DataDirect. Then fired up mythfrontend, still only the original pvr350 works
[04:33:00] Dagmar: You set the number of simultaneous jobs hte host can support to 2?
[04:33:00] xanderp: anyone know the name of a program that allows you to take free hard drive space from multiple computers and create a RAID set of that as a single network share? I used to know one, but can't remember it's name. That would be a great solution for storing my recordings.
[04:34:00] brikus: Alright, I'm having a problem watching live tv. When I switch to watch live tv, myth hangs with a blank screen. When I go back to the console to see what the problem is, mythfrontend tells me it can't open the ring buffer. I've checked the perms on this file and the directory it is in and touched to create it, but none of that seemed to help
[04:34:00] hari_seldon99: Dagmer: No I did not
[04:34:00] Dagmar: brikus: if something like that existed for Linux, I'd be using it
[04:34:00] brikus: My tuner works perfectly outside of myth, though
[04:34:00] hari_seldon99: Dagmar: Is that in "general" on mythtv-setup?
[04:35:00] Dagmar: I don't remember where that is aside from part of the setup in the frontend
[04:35:00] hari_seldon99: oh, it's in frontend? ok, I'll look
[04:35:00] Dagmar: Its under General in mythtv-setup too apparently.
[04:35:00] Dagmar: I just looked at it
[04:36:00] eidolon: it's BOOTING!
[04:36:00] ** eidolon does a happy geek dance. **
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[04:37:00] brikus: Alright, I'm having a problem watching live tv. When I switch to watch live tv, myth hangs with a blank screen. When I go back to the console to see what the problem is, mythfrontend tells me it can't open the ring buffer. I've checked the perms on this file and the directory it is in and touched to create it, but none of that seemed to help
[04:38:00] eidolon: oh balls.
[04:38:00] eidolon: knoppmyth i bet -must- be plugged into the net to start, eh?
[04:38:00] ** eidolon nuts. **
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[04:40:00] hari_seldon99: Dagmar:I found it in mythtv-setup, set it to 2, now rebooting just to be on the safe side (I set the irq's of the video devices to nondegenerate values before)
[04:41:00] Krazylegz: brikus: Paste that part of the mythlog into Pastebin.
[04:41:00] brikus: Pastebin?
[04:42:00] Krazylegz: http://pastebin.ca
[04:45:00] eidolon: or pastebin.com :)
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[04:45:00] brikus: http://pastebin.ca/26889
[04:46:00] eidolon: i think i'm making screaming headway.
[04:47:00] eidolon: "Would you liek to clear all capture card settings before starting configuration?"
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[04:49:00] Boonie: need some help with getting the myth database up and running
[04:49:00] Boonie: when I issue this command as per the instructions mysql -u root < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql
[04:50:00] Boonie: I get this returned to me
[04:50:00] Krazylegz: eidolon: Viva la Canada.
[04:50:00] Boonie: linux:/home/boonie # mysql -u root < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql
[04:50:00] Boonie: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[04:50:00] brikus: Use mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql
[04:50:00] brikus: You need to use the password
[04:50:00] Boonie: where do I put it in that line?
[04:51:00] brikus: You don't need to, mysql will prompt you for it
[04:51:00] Boonie: k
[04:51:00] brikus: Just add the -p
[04:51:00] GeekZoid: hi
[04:51:00] Krazylegz: brikus: Still looks like a problem with permissions on that file.
[04:51:00] brikus: I can touch that file with user mythtv
[04:51:00] Krazylegz: Try chmod 777 ringbuf.nuv or whatever it is.
[04:51:00] GeekZoid: I am having problems getting the WINTV-PVR150 to work with mythtv
[04:51:00] brikus: Alright, lemme try again
[04:51:00] GeekZoid: its not scanning..
[04:52:00] GeekZoid: for channels
[04:52:00] Boonie: brikus : how do I know the password?
[04:52:00] Boonie: is it root password?
[04:52:00] GeekZoid: is anyone using WINTV-PVR150...
[04:52:00] eidolon: erk. something is not going right.
[04:52:00] brikus: Not the same as your regular root password
[04:52:00] brikus: Not sure what KnoppMyth sets it as
[04:52:00] Boonie: hmmm
[04:53:00] Boonie: how can I reset it?
[04:53:00] Boonie: I'm using suse 9.3
[04:53:00] GeekZoid: Can someone help me setup mythtv backend
[04:54:00] GeekZoid: does the scanning option work with MYTHTV-Setup with PVR-150 WINTV?
[04:54:00] GeekZoid: for scannign channels
[04:54:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: Try telling mysql to prompt you for your password, but leaving it blank.
[04:54:00] Krazylegz: Just press <enter> when prompted.
[04:54:00] Boonie: nope
[04:54:00] Krazylegz: Interesting. Which distro?
[04:55:00] Boonie: suse 9.3
[04:55:00] Krazylegz: Oh.
[04:55:00] GeekZoid: hello?
[04:55:00] Boonie: I issued the command mysqladmin -u root ?password?
[04:55:00] Boonie: before to set the password I guess
[04:55:00] Boonie: but the pass that I typed in still gives me an error
[04:56:00] brikus: Krazylegz, myth deletes that file when it switches to live tv mode
[04:56:00] brikus: Even set the umask to 0
[04:56:00] Krazylegz: Then it still craps out?
[04:56:00] brikus: Lemme try chaning the perms on the directory again
[04:56:00] Krazylegz: Check that the partition is mounted r/w as well.
[04:57:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: Did you install via YaST?
[04:57:00] Boonie: install mythtv?
[04:57:00] Krazylegz: MySQL.
[04:57:00] Boonie: I think so
[04:57:00] Boonie: either that or synaptic
[04:58:00] brikus: No dice
[04:58:00] Boonie: it took a lot to get myth installed
[04:58:00] brikus: I'm going to take a break and try again later
[04:58:00] Boonie: dl'ed packages and installed via cmd line, yas, and synaptic
[04:58:00] Boonie: er...yast even
[04:58:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: We can try it another way.
[04:58:00] Krazylegz: PM me.
[04:58:00] Krazylegz: If you want.
[04:59:00] GeekZoid: Can someone help me configure PVR-150 WINTV?
[04:59:00] GeekZoid: Are you suppose to be able to scan for channels? because for some reason my mythtv is not sacnning for channels
[04:59:00] Boonie: Krazylegz : tried to pm you but was denied
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[05:00:00] Boonie: something about unregistered users
[05:01:00] Krazylegz: Meh. I never did understand this whole IRC thing. :-)
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[05:01:00] GeekZoid: woo hoo its working..
[05:01:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: Anyway, you can manually setup your MySQL root password by editing my.cnf.
[05:01:00] hari_seldon99: Hi
[05:02:00] hari_seldon99: Something wierd's happening
[05:02:00] GeekZoid: you use composite instead of tuner
[05:02:00] hari_seldon99: whenever the frontend tries to connect to the backend, it hangs hopelessly
[05:02:00] GeekZoid: see why couldn't you guys tell me that!!
[05:02:00] Boonie: how do I register so I can pm you?
[05:02:00] Krazylegz: Message nickserv.
[05:02:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: where would I find that file?
[05:02:00] Krazylegz: I PMed you, but I guess you didn't get that either.
[05:03:00] braniff: Hari Seldon?? The best psychohistorian ever?? someone's been reading Asimov ;-)
[05:03:00] Krazylegz: Sometimes /etc/my.cnf, sometimes /etc/mysql/my.cnf, sometimes somewhere else.
[05:03:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: I could read your pm, but you couldn't read my responses
[05:03:00] Krazylegz: Depends on distro.
[05:03:00] Krazylegz: Hmm, odd.
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[05:03:00] Boonie: would keep spitting back about how I have to register to pm
[05:03:00] hari_seldon99: brainiff: I predict that my sanity will collapse soon unless I can get mythtv to behave nicely
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[05:04:00] hari_seldon99: Well, here's something interesting
[05:04:00] GeekZoid: hrm its still nto working
[05:04:00] hari_seldon99: I looked on mythweb and it says "encoder 1 recording Daily Show & Encoder 2 recording Girlie movie
[05:05:00] hari_seldon99: does that mean both cards are working?
[05:05:00] GeekZoid: what do you i use for PVR-150 source for scanning channels?
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[05:07:00] GeekZoid: can someone please help me i cant find any help on the net
[05:08:00] braniff_: what is it?
[05:08:00] GeekZoid: I am trying to configure PVR-150 to watch tv..
[05:08:00] GeekZoid: and its not recognizing any channels when i try to scan for channels
[05:08:00] GeekZoid: what do i need to configure.. is it suppose to be tuner/composite/svideo?
[05:08:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: k, I found the file, now how do I edit it?
[05:09:00] braniff_: GeekZoid, depends on what cable you have hooked up to it
[05:09:00] eidolon: okay, i thin my knoppmyth install got -really- ticked off when it tried to install without a general net connection. can i do a 'nuke from orbit' restart here, or should i just go back to the cd and start over? i did a full reboot, the splash boot screen worked, but i'm constantly getting "Cannot connect to the back end server. Is it running?"
[05:10:00] braniff_: Svideo is the easiest to configure iirc
[05:10:00] braniff_: for the pvr150
[05:10:00] GeekZoid: i have a cable tv corc
[05:10:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: Use whichever editor you like.
[05:10:00] GeekZoid: erk its like a cable tv wire
[05:10:00] GeekZoid: that you hookup to your tv
[05:10:00] braniff_: coaxial probably then
[05:11:00] GeekZoid: so how do i chose that?
[05:11:00] mishehu: naj/
[05:11:00] mishehu: bah even
[05:11:00] hari_seldon99: erm, I seem to have the same problem as before
[05:11:00] GeekZoid: thats not an option.. braniff
[05:11:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: it says I can't open it, don't have permissions
[05:11:00] hari_seldon99: I ran ivtvctl -a|grep PVR and it only shows the pvr 350
[05:11:00] hari_seldon99: not the 150 as well
[05:12:00] GeekZoid: just tuner1/tuner0/s-video/composite..
[05:12:00] Boonie: I'm pretty new to linux
[05:12:00] braniff_: i think you want tuner0
[05:12:00] GeekZoid: hmm
[05:12:00] GeekZoid: for some reason its still not working.. i tried tuner 0
[05:12:00] braniff_: but try them all
[05:13:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: You have to be root to edit that file.
[05:13:00] braniff_: i couldn't get coaxial working when i tried that, but it was over 6 months ago. The drivers are probably fixed by now
[05:13:00] GeekZoid: oh
[05:13:00] GeekZoid: braniff.. does it work anyway even if you dont scan?
[05:13:00] GeekZoid: can i watch tv?
[05:13:00] braniff_: luckily my satellite box has svideo out — fixed my pvr150 problem
[05:13:00] GeekZoid: lol
[05:13:00] Boonie: how do I gain root status without having to log off and back on as root?
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[05:13:00] eidolon: okay, i'm doing the 'nuke from orbit' option, and starting over.
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[05:14:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: is there a way I can edit the file from konsole?
[05:14:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: or would it just be easier to log off and back on as root?
[05:14:00] GeekZoid: sigh
[05:15:00] braniff_: GeekZoid, i tried every tuner option and scanned every one of those options
[05:15:00] GeekZoid: so i should get channels basically?
[05:15:00] GeekZoid: buti dont.. hrm
[05:15:00] braniff_: GeekZoid, i wouldn't give up if i were you though until i tried the latest drivers
[05:15:00] GeekZoid: i have the cvs version of MYTHTV
[05:15:00] GeekZoid: and the newest IVTV version drivers
[05:15:00] braniff_: ivtv drivers i mean
[05:15:00] GeekZoid: yup
[05:15:00] hari_seldon99: do I have to do anything vis-a-vis loading the ivtv driver so as to make it work with 2 pvr tuners instead on 1?
[05:15:00] GeekZoid: i have the newest .. maybe i should try the cvs of ivtv
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[05:16:00] braniff_: maybe you should — also try the "bleeding-edge" version from apt/yum
[05:16:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: Type su
[05:16:00] hari_seldon99: If somebody managed to get 2 hauppauge tuners to work, then I'd appreciate some advice
[05:16:00] Krazylegz: Then you will be prompted for the root password.
[05:16:00] pmowry: Sorry to be picky, but what is the number for Newest (0.4.0)?
[05:16:00] GeekZoid: im using Suse Braniff..
[05:16:00] Tanthrix: What are your folks typical ram usage? top says I'm using over 500 megs, but the percentages listed in the mem column only add up to around 30–40 percent..
[05:16:00] GeekZoid: i compiled the drivers from source...
[05:17:00] braniff_: cvs then
[05:17:00] GeekZoid: ok
[05:17:00] Boonie: k
[05:17:00] Boonie: I"m su
[05:17:00] Boonie: su
[05:18:00] Krazylegz: Good, now edit my.cnf
[05:18:00] Boonie: k
[05:18:00] Boonie: I can see the file text now
[05:19:00] Krazylegz: Good.
[05:19:00] Boonie: what do I need to change
[05:19:00] Krazylegz: See if the word "password" is anywhere in the file.
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[05:19:00] braniff_: is a new release of MythTV coming out anytime soon ??
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[05:20:00] GreyFoxx: braniff: There has been a little "I'd like to get a release soon" but nothing more detailed than that
[05:20:00] pmowry: Tanthrix: I'm using 770M out of 768M
[05:20:00] Tanthrix: Other way around I hope ;)
[05:21:00] pucky: Hello all, can anyone clarify what is passed to a user job script?
[05:21:00] braniff_: GreyFoxx, ok
[05:21:00] Tanthrix: So is high usage typical? Does that really mean that you're using that whole amount?
[05:22:00] Tanthrix: Or are you only using a certain chunk of that, and because of the way linux manages memory it reports it as higher usage?
[05:22:00] GreyFoxx: Tanthrix: If you look, a lot of that is likely file buffers
[05:22:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: is this it?
[05:22:00] Boonie: # The following options will be passed to all MySQL clients
[05:22:00] Boonie: [client]
[05:22:00] Boonie: #password = your_password
[05:22:00] Boonie: port = 3306
[05:22:00] Boonie: socket = /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
[05:22:00] GreyFoxx: Tanthrix: Exactly. over time the linux kernel will use a lot of ram for filesystem cache/buffers . But will hand it to any app that asks for ram
[05:22:00] GreyFoxx: It's a good thing :)
[05:23:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: Yes. Now uncomment the #password line by removing the '#' from the front.
[05:23:00] Tanthrix: Hehe, alright. I figured it was something like that.
[05:23:00] Krazylegz: Then you can change the 'your_password' to your password.
[05:23:00] Boonie: should I change the pw to something else?
[05:23:00] Boonie: k
[05:23:00] Krazylegz: If you want to.
[05:24:00] triplep: would getting sound on one channel an not another constitute the need for a signal amplifier?
[05:24:00] braniff_: triplep, more like you need different mixer settings
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[05:26:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: ok, I changed the pw, anything else need changing?
[05:26:00] triplep: even though my cards encode the sound with the video?
[05:26:00] Tanthrix: I wish mythvideo didn't take so long to load all the files across my samba fileshares
[05:26:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: That's it.
[05:26:00] Krazylegz: Now save the file and exit your editor.
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: how do you set up the directdata
[05:27:00] GreyFoxx: Tanthrix: Running video manager? Cause if you just make it migrate the file system it is pretty much instant
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: how do you get an account on directdata?
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: or whatever youcall it
[05:27:00] travail101: zap2it
[05:27:00] GreyFoxx: GeekZoid_: That's detailed in the docs on mythtv.org
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: ok
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[05:27:00] travail101: and that is in the docs
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: Oho k i'll check that
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: Does anyone use PVR-150
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: with tuner/
[05:27:00] GeekZoid: or coaxial cable?
[05:27:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: I opened it from the console, how do I save it from there?
[05:27:00] Tanthrix: Migrate the file system? Do tell Greyfoxx.
[05:27:00] travail101: what I can't find in the docs, is why my TV looks horrible, gets like 1–2 frames per second, and can't change channels :-P
[05:27:00] eidolon: dammit
[05:28:00] eidolon: how do i restart the mythtv configuration?
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[05:28:00] GeekZoid: how do you make it so you can watch the tv in a small window
[05:28:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: Do you know which editor you are using?
[05:28:00] GeekZoid: while your browsing :)
[05:28:00] eidolon: it tried to dhcp an interface that didn't exist, and just said 'failed' and moves on without another try.
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[05:28:00] travail101: mythtv-setup, and answer yes to the first to questions ?
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: GeekZoid_: browsering what ?
[05:28:00] ** eidolon tries it. **
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: like, web browsing ?
[05:28:00] travail101: GeekZoid, there's tvtime, and mplayer :-D
[05:29:00] GreyFoxx: or run myth in windowed mode instead of full screen
[05:29:00] travail101: if you want to surf the web... I think Myth is over kill for TV
[05:29:00] Tanthrix: GreyFoxx: It currently takes 13 seconds to open up MythVideo, I've got 15 folders or so that are symlinked all in one directory to my various samba shares.
[05:29:00] GreyFoxx: Tanthrix: You don't need to use video manager. You can set it to let you navigate the file system in the Mythvideo settings
[05:29:00] eidolon: ung... no, not mythtv setup
[05:29:00] eidolon: whatever knoppmyth was using.
[05:29:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: I don't think I"m in an editor, I was at command line and typed edit my.cnf and it filled my console window
[05:29:00] GeekZoid: i cant get my tuner to work with my PVR-150 :(
[05:29:00] travail101: but if you really want to... I think there's a windowed option burried in the config
[05:30:00] travail101: what chip is it?
[05:30:00] GeekZoid: umm
[05:30:00] travail101: bt878? bt848? saa2337 or so
[05:30:00] GeekZoid: CX
[05:30:00] GeekZoid: CX23416
[05:30:00] GeekZoid: or something
[05:30:00] GeekZoid: like that
[05:30:00] travail101: CX2337 or something
[05:30:00] GreyFoxx: Tanthrix: It takes ~1 second to load it under mine, 1300 files, accross 2 machines and tons of directories
[05:30:00] GeekZoid: CX23416
[05:31:00] travail101: the new connexant... oh....
[05:31:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: I don't use KDE, so I'm not sure how you edit that editor.
[05:31:00] travail101: does that chip even have linux support?
[05:31:00] Krazylegz: *exit that editor.
[05:31:00] GeekZoid: i dont nkow
[05:31:00] GeekZoid: people are saying PVR-150 works...
[05:31:00] travail101: GeekZoid, what does lspci say?
[05:31:00] Tanthrix: GreyFoxx: Are you referred to selecting the "Video list browses files..Video gallery browses files.." options?
[05:31:00] GreyFoxx: Tanthrix: yes
[05:31:00] GeekZoid: itv16
[05:31:00] Tanthrix: GreyFoxx: I already have those checked.
[05:31:00] GeekZoid: Intersomething
[05:31:00] Krazylegz: Boonie: This page details what I would tell you to do, with lots of extra steps in it: http://help.hardhathosting.com/question.php/200 .
[05:32:00] GeekZoid: ernexCmopression
[05:32:00] GeekZoid: itv16
[05:32:00] Tanthrix: GreyFoxx: I think this is something to do with samba and windows networking.
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: None of my shares are to windows machines, so I can't speak to those :)
[05:32:00] GeekZoid: well this sucks
[05:33:00] GeekZoid: the SVN version of ivtv comes back with errors
[05:33:00] Boonie: k, I look at it, thanks
[05:33:00] travail101: idk
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: GeekZoid_: So 0.4.0 (or whatever the "stable" version is) doesn't work for you ?
[05:33:00] travail101: I can sell you a TV card I know works with Linux though :-P
[05:34:00] GeekZoid: GreyFoxx: It recognizes my card but I cant get it to scan for channels
[05:34:00] GeekZoid: im using a coaxial cable
[05:35:00] GeekZoid: its a PVR-150 WINTV card.
[05:35:00] Tanthrix: GreyFoxx: It's probably something that can be fixed, but right now I've got bigger troubles. Pops and clicks on anything but mpeg2.
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: Why would you want to? Setup your zap2it account and load your program listings and the channel data will get filled in for you
[05:35:00] Tanthrix: Whether using mplayer or xine, despite whatever cache, alsa and OSS.
[05:35:00] Tanthrix: Very weird.
[05:35:00] travail101: I can't get myth to scan channels anyway...
[05:35:00] GeekZoid: ok ill try that greyfoxx
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: I believe that channel scan stuff is mostly for dvb
[05:36:00] travail101: but if you don't even know if the card is setup right yet
[05:36:00] travail101: install tvtime, and try it
[05:36:00] travail101: if that works, then you know the drivers are all in place
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: since when does tvtime support a pvr 150 ?
[05:36:00] travail101: oh
[05:36:00] travail101: nevermind
[05:36:00] travail101: I assume too much
[05:36:00] braniff_: what about xawtv?
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: nope
[05:36:00] travail101: I thought it just interfaced with any v4l/v4l2 drivers
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: framegrabbers only
[05:37:00] GeekZoid: travail tvtime doesnt support pvr 150.. lol
[05:37:00] GeekZoid: nope
[05:37:00] travail101: i don't know much about TV cards and linux
[05:37:00] travail101: so how does myth access the cards?
[05:38:00] GreyFoxx: If it's a bttv/framegrabber it does it via the v4l interface
[05:38:00] GreyFoxx: But the PVR 150/250/350/500 use the ivtv drivers
[05:38:00] travail101: and why is it the only tv program I've tried that does NOT work with my age old longtime linux suppoerted bt878 card
[05:38:00] GreyFoxx: You can litterally just open the /dev/video0 and it streams out mpeg2 data
[05:38:00] travail101: well... mplayer would work with it then right?
[05:39:00] travail101: anyway... why doesn't myth work with my bt878?
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: mplayer /dev/video0 would assuming you have the card tuned to a channel AND set to use the proper input
[05:39:00] GeekZoid: hi im setting up on zapit
[05:39:00] eidolon: okay... so i'm on the mythtv first config screen (general, capture cards, video sources, input connections, channel editor). Primarily I'm going to record things, and view them on my VGA monitor that's attachd to it. Do i just need to set the capture card to v4l and that's rpetty much it? a video source is an external input, isn't it?
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: Cause you haven't setup something correctly ? :)
[05:39:00] GeekZoid: and its saying the certificate doesnt work
[05:39:00] braniff_: yeah pvr150 is great if you have one that works with linux ;-)
[05:40:00] travail101: GreyFoxx: I assume that means you have no idea where to look? :-P
[05:40:00] GeekZoid: I'm trying to subscribe and its saying the certificate doesnt work....
[05:40:00] GeekZoid: with zap it..
[05:40:00] GeekZoid: the one thats ont he web site...
[05:41:00] GeekZoid: GreyFoxx: Where can i get a certificate code/
[05:41:00] braniff_: labs.zap2it.com ?
[05:41:00] GeekZoid: ya im there..
[05:41:00] GeekZoid: the certificate code thats on MythTV doesnt work
[05:42:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: there are many places. Ensure the driver is loaded, check dmesg to see what it says when loading, and then finally follow the mythtv.org docs on how to properly setup the card in myth
[05:42:00] travail101: the Gentoo wiki mythtv guide has a code that worked for me yesterday
[05:42:00] GreyFoxx: GeekZoid_: That's what everyone has used all this time
[05:42:00] GeekZoid: shrug
[05:42:00] GeekZoid: its saying "Certificate code does not exist"
[05:43:00] GeekZoid: nevermind
[05:43:00] GeekZoid: i cut and paste
[05:43:00] GeekZoid: so there was aperiod at the end
[05:43:00] GeekZoid: sorry ":(
[05:43:00] travail101: GreyFoxx: well... let me re-iterate that it works in mplayer, and tvtime, the driver is built into the kernel, so no loading necessary, I can see the last channel tuned to bt mplayer when I start myth, but i get like 4 frames every 1–2 seconds....
[05:43:00] Tanthrix: God damn pops and clicks.
[05:43:00] travail101: so it's not a driver issue...
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[05:44:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: What are the specs on the pc ?
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[05:44:00] travail101: GreyFoxx: however.... i suppose ther could be some bt878 specifics in the Doc I overlooked and didn't setup
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[05:45:00] travail101: GreyFoxx: it's a VIA C3 EZRA 996 mghz something or other with 256 ram, onboard unichrome video, and a Hauppauge WinTV card with the bt878 chip
[05:47:00] GreyFoxx: GeekZoid_: I just created an account using the code from that page and it worked without a problem
[05:47:00] GeekZoid: ya i know..
[05:47:00] GeekZoid: I had a period at the end of it
[05:47:00] GeekZoid: (cut and pasting)
[05:47:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: Fanless ?
[05:47:00] GreyFoxx: Cause I seem to remember that the c3's would slowdown when the cpu got busy to keep heat down
[05:48:00] GreyFoxx: and "LiveTV" under myth with a framegrabber is MUCH more cpu intensive that with an app like xawtv would be
[05:48:00] GeekZoid: hmmm
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[05:48:00] kahuna_: hi
[05:48:00] GeekZoid: how long does it usuallyt ake to download the zapit fiel listing :p
[05:48:00] ** GeekZoid is waiting... **
[05:48:00] GeekZoid: and i got highspeed..
[05:49:00] GreyFoxx: geek the first time it can take several minutes
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[05:49:00] GeekZoid: oh ok
[05:49:00] GreyFoxx: It's grabbing 12–14 days of info
[05:49:00] GeekZoid: so it should be equivelant to scannign. :)
[05:49:00] ** GeekZoid waits.. **
[05:49:00] GreyFoxx: from then on , assuming you run it daily it will be faster
[05:49:00] ** GeekZoid hopes this works. **
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[05:50:00] kahuna_: what arch and cpu should I use for compiling with for a celeron D prescott core?
[05:51:00] Dagmar: Just set arch
[05:51:00] Dagmar: It covers both
[05:51:00] eidolon: okay, this is probably bad. I went to channel editor, said 'Scan for channels' – and it didn't find any.
[05:51:00] travail101: so.... myth uses a crappy livetv implementation thatmakes it to where the computer can do nothing but tv, when there's so many other opensource implementations available to choose from that work great on old pentiums?
[05:52:00] travail101: how frustrating....
[05:52:00] Dagmar: travail101: Something stuck up your behind/
[05:52:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: No, Mythtv is a PVR, not just a TV viewing app
[05:52:00] Dagmar: eidolon: I just get mine through DataDirect Much simpler
[05:52:00] eidolon: i did that.
[05:52:00] GreyFoxx: the framegrabbers output raw YUV frame data and those apps(xawtv and all) just shove it directly to the video card
[05:52:00] eidolon: but i got the "You're set to channel 3 which doesn't exist."
[05:52:00] GeekZoid: OH MY GOD ITS WORKING
[05:53:00] ** GeekZoid cheers **
[05:53:00] GreyFoxx: Myth compresses it and writes it to the drive, which is then played back. That's what allows you to pause/rewind livetv
[05:53:00] GeekZoid: now how do i run it in window mdoe?
[05:53:00] Dagmar: travail101: And although I don't expect you're going to catch onto what I'm saying, I just finished making some binary packages for Dropline, including a nice .desktop file for the frontend.
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[05:53:00] GreyFoxx: GeekZoid_: Go look in the frontend options
[05:53:00] kahuna_: arch=prescott?
[05:53:00] GeekZoid: ok
[05:53:00] Dagmar: kahuna_: I'm looking at the info page for gcc now. I know it's not "prescott"
[05:53:00] braniff_: hmm...all of a sudden, mythtv says "No Recordings Available" under MediaLibrary->WatchRecordings...
[05:53:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: If you had a pvr card that outputted mpeg data that didn't require compression your box would likely be more than fine
[05:54:00] braniff_: what the hell?
[05:54:00] Dagmar: Well, hmm... Maybe it IS prescott
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[05:54:00] GreyFoxx: braniff_: Did you delete them all? Is the backend running ?
[05:54:00] eidolon: datadirect is populating my database. how cool. :)
[05:54:00] Dagmar: If that's closer to what kind of celery you have than "pentium3" then use "prescott"
[05:54:00] GeekZoid: too kewl
[05:54:00] GreyFoxx: the frontend gets the list of recordings from the backend. If it;'s not running you should get an error and then it will say no recordings
[05:54:00] GeekZoid: Thank you very much greyfoxx
[05:54:00] GreyFoxx: GeekZoid_: Have fun :)
[05:54:00] aegray: when i try to run mythtv-setup i get: 2005-10–27 20:54:29.338 Unable to connect to database! 2005-10–27 20:54:29.338 No error type from QSqlError? Strange...
[05:55:00] travail101: GreyFoxx: and I understand the point of that being in a PVR system... it's the whole meat and potatoes... but... what is the C3 lacking? SSE2, or... what? I mean... don't people use 500 mghz systems as Mythboxes? and I do think an option to just shove it to the display would be nice :-D
[05:55:00] aegray: any ideas? mysqld is enabled and works fine with networking
[05:55:00] braniff_: recording files are there...
[05:55:00] Dagmar: aegray: You need both the backend and a mysql server running
[05:55:00] aegray: it gets the same error
[05:55:00] travail101: though I also realise that encoding is a CPU intensive task...
[05:55:00] Dagmar: aegrey: You *also* have to set up some databases in mysql for MythTV. Did you do that?
[05:56:00] aegray: whooops – looks like a qt problem QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded
[05:56:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: The problem is that the encoding is intensive, and your CPU happens to be of a type that slows down during high CPU loads to keep heat down
[05:56:00] aegray: yea – i've done a full mythtv setup a few times but never gotten this before
[05:56:00] Dagmar: travail101: Take my word on it. The backend running all the time on my desktop, including the mysqld, barely makes my loadmeter jiggle
[05:56:00] GreyFoxx: so you are getting hit twice
[05:56:00] aegray: the database is created and all
[05:56:00] Dagmar: Hardware accellerated MPEG cards make MythTV very suitable for a background service on a workstation
[05:56:00] GreyFoxx: If you didn't require compressen then a 500mhz would liekly be ok for playback
[05:56:00] aegray: any idea why qt wouldn't load the driver?
[05:57:00] Dagmar: aegrey: Whose build of Qt?
[05:57:00] aegray: mandrake 2005
[05:57:00] Dagmar: Make sure they built it with support for the MySQL module
[05:57:00] braniff_: yeah, backend got confused...restarted it and can see my recordings phew
[05:57:00] aegray: k
[05:58:00] Dagmar: aegray: You should have something like a /usr/lib/qt/plugins/sqldrivers directory with libqsqlmysql.so
[05:58:00] travail101: how do I turn off compression, and just have a small 3 gig buffer for raw video?
[05:58:00] Dagmar: If not, then you have a problem I think
[05:58:00] aegray: damn
[05:58:00] aegray: ok thanks
[05:58:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: Myth doesn't support a "raw" mode at all :/
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[05:58:00] Dagmar: Raw video will eat you out of house and home
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[05:59:00] GreyFoxx: Your system would be able to record of the framegrabber, but record+playback at the same time(aka livetv) would kill it
[05:59:00] Dagmar: Basically, unless you're doing some raid disk stuff, it would *easily* choke your IDE bus to death
[05:59:00] Dagmar: A 1080i signal coming over firewire just about does it, and it *is* compressed
[06:00:00] travail101: GreyFoxx: so... I'm screwed on the Myth end?
[06:00:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: If you are sticking to that card then you will have problems attempting to record and playback at the same time
[06:01:00] travail101: are you saying to get a car that has hardware encoding?
[06:01:00] Dagmar: Which card is this?
[06:01:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: Yes
[06:01:00] Dagmar: travail101: Dude, the $138 I spent on the PVR-500 was money very well spent
[06:01:00] travail101: Hauppauge WinTV with a bt878
[06:01:00] Dagmar: Ouch.
[06:01:00] GreyFoxx: There is areason that most of us ditched framegrabbers long ago :)
[06:01:00] Dagmar: Yeah, that is painful to live encode
[06:02:00] travail101: I have a MSI TV@nywhere, and an ASUS TV FM card
[06:02:00] Dagmar: The whole POINT of MythTV is to be able to do that whole stopping and starting of live TV thing
[06:02:00] travail101: that's that CX 2388 or whatever chip
[06:02:00] GreyFoxx: But if you have the cpu a framegrabber can work well
[06:02:00] travail101: and that phillips saa3177 or something schip
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[06:02:00] travail101: 3117
[06:02:00] Dagmar: ...so you really want it to be using hardware accelleration unless you have a very masculine CPU
[06:02:00] travail101: idk
[06:03:00] GreyFoxx: bah, I got nothing accomplished tonight that I meant too
[06:03:00] Dagmar: I'm not kidding when I say my system loadmeter barely shows it when the mythbackend starts recording something while I'm browsing the web or whatever
[06:03:00] travail101: do either of those cards have good Myth support?
[06:03:00] travail101: I know the CX2388 or whatever has hardware mpeg4 encoding
[06:03:00] Dagmar: In theory you can use any Video4Linux-compatible card.
[06:03:00] travail101: the phillips chip I don't know
[06:04:00] Dagmar: Is that ASUS card a rebranded Hauppage?
[06:04:00] travail101: idk
[06:04:00] Dagmar: Heck, I'd at least *try* the ivtv module
[06:04:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: I don't know anything about those specific cards, but I doubt that they will be useful
[06:04:00] _Nero_: No more tearing.. YAY!! :)
[06:04:00] travail101: it's SAA713X
[06:05:00] travail101: both have linux drivers now days... the chipsets...
[06:05:00] travail101: idk...
[06:05:00] ** GreyFoxx looks at all of the scripting he didn't finish and blames his kid for being too cute and therefore causing me to spend most of the night playing :) **
[06:05:00] kahuna_: lol
[06:05:00] GeekZoid: now the next thign getting the Remote Control work with LIRCD....
[06:05:00] GeekZoid: lol
[06:06:00] ** GeekZoid sighs **
[06:06:00] Dagmar: I don't see any saa713x driver in ivtv. Maybe the kernel has it
[06:06:00] kahuna_: I get that problem too
[06:06:00] Dagmar: GeekZoid: My god be with you
[06:06:00] ** GeekZoid chuckles **
[06:06:00] GeekZoid: im lazy i wanna watch tv from my bed
[06:06:00] kahuna_: then the wife wants to have sex right in the middle if an if fi;
[06:06:00] Dagmar: lircd can be a real _bastard_ to troubleshoot
[06:06:00] travail101: it's something... let me get the exact kernel driver
[06:06:00] GeekZoid: Well its givign me segmentation fault....
[06:06:00] GeekZoid: adn "driver is busy problems"
[06:07:00] GeekZoid: so im trying to use the CVS tree one
[06:07:00] GeekZoid: cuz it wont compile on my 4.03...
[06:07:00] GreyFoxx: kahuna_: Hehe it happens a lot. I spend most of my evenings doingsomething with her. I love it
[06:07:00] GeekZoid: and thats not really workign either :(
[06:07:00] kahuna_: Better than the computer.
[06:07:00] Dagmar: 0.7.2 works okay for me, but I have a fairly primitive IR dongle
[06:07:00] GeekZoid: do you have gcc 4.0.3?
[06:07:00] Dagmar: I'm trying to figure out now if I can normalize the bloody audio
[06:07:00] Dagmar: Oh heck no i would not dare use that gcc yet
[06:07:00] GeekZoid: lo
[06:07:00] Dagmar: I'm still using 3.3.x
[06:07:00] GeekZoid: thats my problem
[06:07:00] travail101: Phillips 7134 and Conexant 2388x are the other two cards I have
[06:07:00] GeekZoid: ya i got gcc 4.0.3
[06:08:00] GeekZoid: i iwshi could move the window on the fly
[06:08:00] travail101: both have drivers in the 2.6.13 kernel tree
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[06:08:00] Dagmar: Dude if you can downgrade the compiler to a 3.3.x version do it
[06:08:00] GeekZoid: Dagmar: i tried
[06:08:00] GeekZoid: its not that easy
[06:08:00] Dagmar: C++ programs *always* have hideous problems with newish versions of gcc
[06:08:00] GreyFoxx: Dagmar: I've been considering adding something like that. I hate playing something and have to turn up the sound, then play something really load and scramble to lower the volume
[06:08:00] Dagmar: GeekZoid: www.linuxfromscratch.org. It IS that easy
[06:08:00] GeekZoid: lol
[06:08:00] Dagmar: It's just time consuming as heck to install a new compiler
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[06:09:00] travail101: www.gentoo.org it is quite easy really
[06:09:00] Dagmar: GryeFoxx: I'm more interested in not having all the commercials BOOMING OUT OF THE SPEAKERS
[06:09:00] GeekZoid: Dagmar: Is there anyway to get mythtv to resize the window on the fly
[06:09:00] Dagmar: GeekZoid: I'm happy when it doesn't screw over my screen resolution
[06:09:00] Dagmar: I'm hoping that works better with the svn
[06:09:00] GeekZoid: im using th SVN
[06:09:00] GeekZoid: its pretty kewl
[06:09:00] GeekZoid: i had to use the SVN.. cuz its the only one that compiles with 4.03
[06:09:00] GeekZoid: eheh
[06:09:00] Dagmar: I have tried a BUNCH of things., but letting MythTV set my screen res to 1024x768 always winds up with it coming out interlaced
[06:10:00] Dagmar: The only way I can make it behave is to just edit the xorg.conf so the thing just does 1024x768.
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[06:11:00] Dagmar: I'm now working on a hit list of things to poke at in the database to make the default settings more liveable
[06:11:00] Dagmar: Best I can figure about the video mode changes is that xrandr isn't very intelligent and picks stupid modes to change to
[06:11:00] GeekZoid: I just want to be ableto move the window at least
[06:12:00] GeekZoid: im runnign at 1280xsomething
[06:12:00] GeekZoid: and i have the tv at 800x600
[06:12:00] travail101: grr..... is there a program like mythtv with all the modules and the tv guide, that isn't all built around the idea of recording? i just want a media center type HTPC
[06:12:00] Dagmar: If you run it in a window in the first place, afaik all you can do is set those offsets for the gui that you've probably been wondering what were for
[06:12:00] Dagmar: travail101: You want TVTime
[06:12:00] travail101: I do not...
[06:12:00] Dagmar: For just watching TV straight out it's the best one there is
[06:13:00] travail101: it has no game/wheather/web options
[06:13:00] travail101: nor a tv guide
[06:13:00] Dagmar: xmltv gets it channel listings, so you can at least see what's showing currently.
[06:13:00] Dagmar: ...and there is also tvguide.com
[06:13:00] travail101: yes... and there is sattellite TV, and Digital Cable
[06:14:00] travail101: and TiVO, and so on
[06:14:00] eidolon: hmm. this is probably not good. From the MYTHTV main menu I selected "Watch TV"
[06:14:00] eidolon: my screen has gone blank, and 'escape' is not doing anything.
[06:14:00] travail101: Freevo can do a simply shove to the display right? and not actually record?
[06:14:00] Dagmar: Dunno
[06:14:00] GreyFoxx: travail101: check their site and see what it says
[06:15:00] eidolon: control-alt-f1 gets me the login: prompt.
[06:15:00] eidolon: what am i doing wrong?
[06:15:00] travail101: I think it can... i will try that... it can use mplayer or tvtime to grab the video, so it should work... :-/ but the configs have been womping me
[06:15:00] travail101: and Myth has more toys :-P, anyway, thanx for all the help anyway guys
[06:15:00] Dagmar: eidolon: What card?
[06:15:00] travail101: I guess I'm off to try other things
[06:15:00] eidolon: for... which? tuner? or video out?
[06:15:00] Dagmar: Tuner
[06:15:00] eidolon: tuner is a 150.
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[06:16:00] Dagmar: Video out is not nVidia?
[06:16:00] eidolon: er
[06:16:00] eidolon: i'm actually not sure :(
[06:16:00] Dagmar: You don't know what kind of video card you have?
[06:16:00] ** eidolon hides. **
[06:16:00] eidolon: i do now!
[06:16:00] eidolon: lspci shows:
[06:16:00] Dagmar: Then just cross your fingers on that bit and hope X can guess properly
[06:16:00] eidolon: VGA compatible controller: nVideo COrporation NV6
[06:16:00] Dagmar: You're using the ivtv module, I hope
[06:17:00] eidolon: X -did- guess properly.
[06:17:00] eidolon: i had the full GUI running.
[06:17:00] eidolon: just when i hit [watch tv] it went blank.
[06:18:00] eidolon: the XFree86.0.log files hows NVIDIA(0): Setting moe "1280x1024" – i know it's working
[06:18:00] eidolon: messages shows the hauppage board initialized too.
[06:19:00] Dagmar: You are using the ivtv module?
[06:19:00] eidolon: i'm not sure. this is a knoppmyth install.
[06:19:00] Dagmar: You should be using the ivtv module then
[06:19:00] eidolon: lsmod | grep ip shows only ipv6
[06:19:00] Dagmar: It's not a "p"
[06:20:00] eidolon: oops,sorry
[06:20:00] eidolon: yes. ivtv is running and linked.
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[06:20:00] eidolon: 2 bttv,ivtv
[06:20:00] eidolon: 3 saa71356_vv,bttv,ivtv
[06:20:00] eidolon: erm, i -may- have hosed my lirc config.
[06:20:00] eidolon: i specified i had the lirc_pvr150 – and i don't think i do.
[06:20:00] eidolon: would that cause this?
[06:20:00] Dagmar: It should be working then. Maybe try someone in #Knoppmyth
[06:25:00] ** GreyFoxx packs up his distro install disks for tomorrow just in case he forgets **
[06:25:00] GreyFoxx: 2 more myth installs tomorrow at lunch heh
[06:31:00] eidolon: Dagmar: not getting a lot of feedback from #knoppmyth. ivtv0 seems to be okay ("ivtv0; i2c attach to card #0 ok.... ")
[06:31:00] eidolon: also, there's a loop happenign when i watch tv...
[06:32:00] eidolon: eidolon "Attempting to change from None tio WatchingLiveTV
[06:32:00] eidolon: eidolon Using protocol version 18
[06:32:00] eidolon: eidolon LiveTV not successfully started
[06:32:00] eidolon: just like that over and over again.
[06:40:00] eidolon: ah well, i'm sacking out. night
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[06:44:00] GeekZOid: hi
[06:44:00] GeekZOid: does anyone have any idea how to use lircd when it says device busy
[06:44:00] GeekZOid: or why it would say device busy?
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[06:49:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: you still around?
[06:49:00] Boonie: I'm still having no luck with resrtting the pw
[06:49:00] Boonie: resetting even
[06:51:00] GeekZoid: oh my gosh
[06:51:00] GeekZoid: i got my remotte working
[06:51:00] GeekZoid: hehehe
[06:52:00] Krazylegz: Yes.
[06:52:00] Krazylegz: Did you follow those steps?
[06:53:00] abescully: MythTV is working great with my new pvr-500 except that I cannot watch live TV. Live TV plays for about 1 second then stops. Anyone have ideas?
[06:54:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: followed the steps you showed me and I'm still having the same problem
[06:54:00] Boonie: keep getting that error
[06:54:00] Krazylegz: Were you able to login when you started MySQL with --skip-grant-tables ?
[06:55:00] Boonie: login meaning?
[06:55:00] Boonie: it didn't return en error
[06:55:00] Boonie: and then I did the pw reset command and that didn't return any errors either
[06:56:00] GeekZoid: hmm
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[06:56:00] GeekZoid: let me get this straight
[06:57:00] GeekZoid: i have to make a darn PERL script
[06:57:00] GeekZoid: to change channels
[06:57:00] GeekZoid: with my remote: (
[06:57:00] GeekZoid: isn't there one already made
[07:05:00] GeekZoid: hey
[07:05:00] GeekZoid: is there anyone around
[07:07:00] GeekZoid: ok mythtrv is pretty kewol
[07:07:00] GeekZoid: got the remote working ;)
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[07:07:00] abescully: if anyone is interested, disabling mythtv's extra audio buffering fixed the live tv problems.
[07:11:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: thanks for your help
[07:11:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: I figured it out and I"m an idiot lol
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[07:12:00] Krazylegz: Heh, well at least you have it working now.
[07:12:00] Boonie: Krazylegz: was following some direstions TOO closely and ended up making what the directions said my pw
[07:12:00] Boonie: at least I know it now
[07:12:00] Boonie: lol
[07:12:00] Boonie: finally got the setup to run without crashing on me
[07:12:00] Boonie: :)
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[07:12:00] Krazylegz: Cool.
[07:12:00] Boonie: I"m sure I"ll be back
[07:13:00] Boonie: but it's late
[07:13:00] Boonie: thanks again
[07:13:00] Krazylegz: I'm sure I'll be in bed by then, since it's 1:15 here. ;-)
[07:13:00] Boonie: night
[07:13:00] Krazylegz: No problem.
[07:13:00] Krazylegz: Later
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[07:15:00] Dagmar: Drat. There doesn't seem to be any way to pipe the audio through normalize
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[07:32:00] Gumby: has anyone in the last few month been having issues with recordings not playing back properly? Mine will play back for 5–10 minutes and then go to the screen like the recording was finished being watched and its asking me to delete or save the file etc. It happens in the same spots yet if I skip past those spots then it plays on until it gets to another spot that it does the same thing at
[07:34:00] Gumby: And another strange thing. If I try and play the files that this problem is happening to, mplayer and xine refuse to play them. Xine gives a codec error, player gives no errors.
[07:35:00] Gumby: Yet I have Xine setup as my player and it does play the same files (until they skip to EOF for some reason)
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[07:57:00] hari_seldon99: Anybody home?
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[08:15:00] eiggirC: hari_seldon99: no, noone is here at all
[08:15:00] eiggirC: 156 nicks in the channel and theres noone here
[08:15:00] eiggirC: ask your questions and idle for a while
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[08:36:00] Tanthrix: I swapped sound cards and now I'm not getting any sound from mythtv.
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[08:37:00] Tanthrix: Mplayer / XMMS whatever work fine, but for the life of me I cannot get mythtv audio working.
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[08:39:00] Tanthrix: Nothing is muted in aumix. I double checked that /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp are correct. Anyone have any ideas?
[08:42:00] Tanthrix: Using mplayer to play my NUV files works fine.
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[08:49:00] Tanthrix: Weird, apparently it's an issue with my card. It's just the programs that have recorded after I swapped the card that have the issue.
[08:49:00] Tanthrix: But I'm using a PVR card, how would changing the sound card affect anything?
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[08:50:00] ThBastard: anyone here familiar with the DCT6200 ?
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: ThBastard, what are you trying to do?
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: thats a horrible name btw
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[08:52:00] ThBastard: well i have had stb -> myth firewire working fine
[08:52:00] ThBastard: while i was investigating switching away from mythtv(which i quickly switched back to once i realised the windows drivers & pvr software are garbage)
[08:53:00] ThBastard: i came accross someone saying you could play back a mpeg2ts stream to the stb and it would decode & display it
[08:54:00] Tanthrix: Hrm. A restart fixed my problems. Man these cards are finicky.
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[09:42:00] brikus: What's the best way to get audio out from the PVR-350?
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[09:55:00] SimonBOFH: does it have s/pdif?
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[10:01:00] brikus: SimonBOFH: I mean just to get any output at all. I'm using the RCA output now, but I don't have anything set up to sound in Linux
[10:01:00] brikus: I guess a better question would be the best way to setup this hardware combo:
[10:02:00] brikus: Athlon 2800+, 1 GB RAM, old graphics card with no tv/out, onboard audio (nForce, don't really have this set up and would rather use the 350), and a PVR-350
[10:03:00] brikus: I pretty much want the 350 to be the only output at all
[10:03:00] brikus: I only have the box hooked up to a televison, so I don't need a monitor. I'm used to running it headless, so I use SSH all the time, but would also like to try and get MythWeb setup
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[10:51:00] DCG: there a reason why my frontend would think the backend is 127.0.0.1 even though the settings show 192.168.0.90?
[10:52:00] DCG: Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543
[10:53:00] DCG: but according to mythconverg.settings.MasterServerIP = 192.168.0.90
[10:58:00] otwin: DCG: what do you have in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[10:58:00] DCG: 192.168.0.90
[10:58:00] DCG: its able to contact the mysql server
[10:58:00] DCG: its not finding the masterserverip record for some reason i guess
[11:05:00] DCG: might it be that the MasterServerIP record has an entry in hostname instead of being global?
[11:06:00] otwin: my hostname value for MasterServerIP is 'NULL'
[11:06:00] DCG: yea, thats prolly the issue
[11:06:00] DCG: some reason mine was set to the hostname of the master backend
[11:06:00] otwin: ahh
[11:07:00] otwin: that will be the problem
[11:07:00] DCG: i blame knoppmyth.
[11:07:00] otwin: never liked it...
[11:07:00] DCG: just did a fresh install of 5a22 after using a16 for a long time
[11:08:00] otwin: on both backend and frontend?
[11:08:00] DCG: frontend is still the same running mythbox
[11:08:00] DCG: or whatever it is named
[11:09:00] DCG: its an xbox
[11:09:00] DCG: frontend is 0.18.1, and backend is svn
[11:09:00] otwin: i have an xbox too and thought about using it for myth – did you do anything about the noise?
[11:10:00] DCG: nah, its way quieter than the alternative i've been using
[11:10:00] otwin: ouch
[11:10:00] DCG: i've got a amd64 3000+ i've had on most nights
[11:10:00] otwin: couldn't live with that
[11:11:00] DCG: i've not used the xbox much cause the frontend tends to crash on mpeg2s
[11:11:00] DCG: its still trying to connect to localhost:6543
[11:13:00] otwin: did you restart the backend&frontend?
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[11:14:00] DCG: just did, still doing it
[11:19:00] DCG: might the hosts file be doing me in?
[11:20:00] otwin: you didn't type NULL in the hostname field? – it should be empty – just to be sure ;-)
[11:21:00] DCG: its ""
[11:21:00] DCG: *but without the quotes
[11:21:00] DCG: just blank
[11:21:00] otwin: ok
[11:21:00] DCG: and this has me really confounded
[11:23:00] DCG: even the frontend running on the master server isnt picking up the MasterServerIP setting
[11:24:00] DCG: its seeing it as localhost too
[11:25:00] otwin: in my mysql.txt on the backend DBHostName=localhost – so that is what i would expect
[11:26:00] DCG: nah
[11:26:00] DCG: its 192.168.0.90 as well
[11:27:00] DCG: aha
[11:27:00] DCG: hostname is "" not NULL
[11:27:00] DCG: argh
[11:27:00] otwin: what is your BackendServerIP in the setting table?
[11:28:00] DCG: same
[11:29:00] DCG: i'm tempted to change all the entries with hostname = backend hostname to hostname=null
[11:29:00] DCG: that did it :)
[11:30:00] DCG: thx for helping
[11:30:00] DCG: its been forever since i messed with sql
[11:30:00] otwin: you did it all on your own ;-)
[11:33:00] DCG: now if my frontend wasnt so dang slwo
[11:33:00] DCG: cant figure that one out at all
[11:34:00] DCG: low cpu usage on both front & back, plenty of free ram & disk
[11:36:00] DCG: argh
[11:36:00] DCG: looks like i gotta update my frontend
[11:36:00] DCG: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION
[11:39:00] DCG: oh well
[11:39:00] DCG: sleepy time
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[14:39:00] Dibblah: Argh. Has anyone used pre-compiled headers in anger in a larger project? Qmake "supports" them, but the way it is implemented is painfully error-prone...
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[14:49:00] jd86: '2005-10–28 08:47:45.732 45 BACKEND_MESSAGE[]:[]SCHEDULE_CHANGE[]:[]empty after this my mythbackend crashes.. generally while schedualling recording
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[16:30:00] Beirdo: yay
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[16:40:00] laga:
[16:40:00] Krazylegz: Yay.
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[16:40:00] laga:
[16:42:00] Krazylegz: Ach, das umlaut! Es ist nicht gut.
[16:43:00] laga:
[16:44:00] Krazylegz: Heh.
[16:45:00] Krazylegz: Beirdo: Sprechen Sie Spanisch!
[16:45:00] Beirdo: blah
[16:46:00] Beirdo: drinking latte without a lid
[16:46:00] Beirdo: just wrong
[16:46:00] laga: si, por que no? ;)
[16:46:00] ** Beirdo slaps laga with a pineapple **
[16:47:00] Beirdo: so I found out why my pixmap generation was so f'ing slow
[16:47:00] Beirdo: 397G of 400G used
[16:47:00] Beirdo: oooops
[16:47:00] Beirdo: xfs don't like that much
[16:48:00] Beirdo: so I deleted a pile of shite
[16:50:00] ** laga turns Beirdo into a jack-o'-lantern **
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[17:07:00] purplefrog: Color me grumpy. zap2it still doesn't have the correct information for me to record Kakurenbo, so I'm going to experiment with a "manual recording".
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[17:16:00] Beirdo: OK, I gotta archive some of this shit
[17:18:00] Beirdo: still have recordings from March
[17:18:00] Beirdo: jeez
[17:18:00] Krazylegz: Language!
[17:19:00] purplefrog: Censorship should be client-side, not author-side.
[17:19:00] Beirdo: meh
[17:19:00] Beirdo: I'm talking about TV... it's all shit
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[17:21:00] Krazylegz: "Television: A medium, because it is neither rare, nor well-done."
[17:21:00] Krazylegz: I like saying that.
[17:22:00] Beirdo: hehe
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[17:25:00] jono: can someone lend a hand with XMLTV – when I run mythfilldatabase it hangs at gmtv.co.uk
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[17:27:00] jono: anyone here use XMLTV to success?
[17:28:00] Krazylegz: Beirdo: Would you be averse to adding a wiki to your website for rating shows that people in this channel watch?
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[17:32:00] bill2or3: anyone running a hd3000 and a dvb-s card in the same box?
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[17:36:00] purplefrog: I tried using an HD3000 and a Hauppauge PVR250 in the same box, but got kernel module conflicts with IVTV.
[17:37:00] purplefrog: Has anyone been using the 0.4.0 ivtv seen visual glitches? For me every few seconds the bottom part of the frame gets "displaced".
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[17:37:00] bill2or3: hmm
[17:37:00] bill2or3: that's too bad.
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[17:38:00] stoffel: purplefrog: i'm using it without problems so far
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[17:44:00] jono: when I run mythfilldatabase, it doesnt get beyond gmtv.co.uk – I have created the config file in mythtv-setup and added the channels, but it goes no further – any clues?
[17:45:00] shunter: is there any reason why myth should be using over 400 MB memory when watching tv?
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[17:47:00] fryfrog: shunter: usually its due to not understanding how linux and memory work
[17:47:00] fryfrog: so, are you familiar with how linux uses memory or not?
[17:47:00] jono: this is driving me mad!
[17:48:00] shunter: fryfrog, http://skizot.com/cacti/graph.php?local_graph . . . p;rra_id=all
[17:49:00] fryfrog: i don't see anything odd about that graph?
[17:49:00] fryfrog: is it a memory graph for the MYTH process? or a computer named "myth"?
[17:49:00] shunter: the computer named myth
[17:50:00] fryfrog: linux gobbles up all the "free" ram it can for disk cache
[17:50:00] fryfrog: so the longer your system is up, the less "free" ram you'll see available
[17:50:00] fryfrog: so to get an *accurate* reading of how you are doing on memory usage, take a look at your swap
[17:50:00] GreyFoxx: but that ram is handed to a process when a request for ram comes in
[17:50:00] purplefrog: vmstat 10
[17:50:00] fryfrog: if you are using a trivial amount of swap (say, 30mb out of 1024mb) you are fine
[17:51:00] shunter: fryfrog, i'm talking about the periods of time where the free ram drops to basically none, and then jumps back up. those drops are when i'm viewing tv in myth
[17:51:00] GreyFoxx: shunter: Which is when myth is accessing a lot of disk data, which can increase the kernel caching/buffers
[17:51:00] fryfrog: yup, myth is reading from disk and linux is caching it
[17:51:00] GreyFoxx: your kernel tries to be smart and buffer and cache as much as possible to speed up file access
[17:52:00] fryfrog: look at the swap graph from the same time period
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: but that space is available should a process want it
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[17:52:00] fryfrog: humm, you don't have a swap uage graph
[17:52:00] fryfrog: that cacti is pretty neato
[17:53:00] fryfrog: i might have too take a poke with it, is it *hard* to setup?
[17:53:00] shunter: fryfrog, yeah, but during the time where there is nearly no *free* memory available its thrashing constantly
[17:53:00] shunter: fryfrog, nope, not too bad at all
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: shunter are you seeing any out of memory errors or such in dmesg ?
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: Is your swap filling up ?
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: Is the app stuttering ?
[17:54:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, no, because the swap is not being filled up
[17:54:00] GreyFoxx: Or do you just see the hd light on constantly ?
[17:54:00] fryfrog: w/o knowing what the actual swap usage *is* its not really possible to tell you if its bad or not
[17:54:00] fryfrog: the hd light would of course be on because you are reading from the disk :)
[17:54:00] jono: does anyone use xmltv in the uk ?
[17:55:00] shunter: of course, as it's thrashing the hd led is on
[17:55:00] fryfrog: shunter: its not thrashing, its simply reading your disk for the tv show you are watching
[17:55:00] GreyFoxx: shunter: What we areattempting to find out is how you are determining that it is "thrashing"
[17:55:00] purplefrog: "vmstat 10" will tell you how much swap-in/out activity you have.
[17:55:00] GreyFoxx: what symptoms other than a HD led being on are you seeing to indicate there is a problem ?
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[17:56:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, umm, about 300 MB swap space being used
[17:56:00] fryfrog: how much ram?
[17:56:00] shunter: 768 MB
[17:56:00] GreyFoxx: shunter: Forget that, what other symptoms ?
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: stuttering in playback?
[17:57:00] fryfrog: box doing anything besides myth?
[17:57:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, the epg is slow coming up
[17:57:00] shunter: fryfrog, no
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: That's not uncommon :)
[17:57:00] fryfrog: hehe, yeah my EPG isn't exactly fast
[17:57:00] fryfrog: video stuttering would be the most likely symptom
[17:57:00] fryfrog: if you aren't seeing that, you don't really have a problem
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: What are likely seeing is that the kernel is moving "idle" processes to swap and using the ram for a disk cache
[17:58:00] fryfrog: though i *think* 300mb swap usage having 768mb ram is a little odd
[17:58:00] GreyFoxx: using a hog of a window manager ?
[17:58:00] fryfrog: ah, good question
[17:58:00] fryfrog: KDE/Gnome maybe?
[17:58:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, evilwm, just about as light as you can get
[17:58:00] fryfrog: weird
[17:58:00] shunter: however i don't see any stuttering
[17:58:00] shunter: so i guess that's ok. i was just curious
[17:58:00] GreyFoxx: It's likely swapping out idle processes
[17:59:00] fryfrog: shunter: did you use any guide to setup cacti?
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[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: But it indicates that you might have a bunch of processes running that you don't need for a dedicated myth box * if it's dedicated to myth)
[17:59:00] shunter: fryfrog, nope, besides the cacti documentation... it's really self-explanatory
[17:59:00] fryfrog: cool
[18:00:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, nothing else really besides apache2 and mysql (those are the big ones)
[18:00:00] GreyFoxx: shunter: can you dump the output of "free" tto pastebin.ca ?
[18:01:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, yeah, i can do that, but i'm not at home, and it's not in livetv mode
[18:01:00] GreyFoxx: ahhh, ok
[18:01:00] fryfrog: speaking of which, i spose i should go get my myth box working again
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[18:01:00] fryfrog: i wish the stupid thing would display boot screen to the tv :/
[18:02:00] jono: argh! I best post to a forum
[18:02:00] GreyFoxx: Try a different video card ?  :)
[18:02:00] GreyFoxx: jono: Or just email the -users mailing list
[18:03:00] jono: I would rather not sub to a mailing list to only ask a few questions
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[18:03:00] jono: these tv listings are getting me down – I followed the instructions but something is wrong
[18:03:00] GreyFoxx: You will reach a lot more users that way and potentially better response. But it';s your choice :)
[18:03:00] jono: oh right
[18:04:00] jono: are there generally people in here who know a bit about XMLTV ?
[18:04:00] GreyFoxx: often. Really depends on the time of day
[18:04:00] purplefrog: I'm a big fan of bugzilla databases. You can search to see if anyone solved your problem before.
[18:04:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, http://pastebin.ca/26933
[18:04:00] GreyFoxx: or just search a mailing list archive to see if someone asked/answered the same Q :)
[18:04:00] purplefrog: Too many mailing list questions get dropped on the floor.
[18:05:00] jono: thanks GreyFoxx
[18:05:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, no swap really being used atm
[18:05:00] GreyFoxx: shunter: I'd be curious what it has when you are watching
[18:06:00] shunter: GreyFoxx, yeah, that would be alot more informative ;) but i'm not at home atm... i'll jump back in later when i return and let you know then
[18:06:00] GreyFoxx: k
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[18:34:00] xris: morning, all
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[18:35:00] xris: odd. ubuntu doesn't have ivtv driver/firmware in multiverse.
[18:35:00] xris: maybe my feelings about fedora weren't as bad as I thought.
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[18:46:00] xris: really weird. wonder what it'd take to get them to add packages
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[18:55:00] bill2or3: Anyone in Salt Lake City, utah?
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[19:03:00] Anonycat: I get a "Myth could not connect to the database" error...Google gives some past answers, none of which work
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[19:03:00] Krazylegz: Is MySQL running?
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[19:04:00] Anonycat: It was, but I see no mysqld in the process list anymore
[19:05:00] Anonycat: Services monitor says it's still running
[19:06:00] Anonycat: found the PID; it is in fact running
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[19:07:00] Krazylegz: netstat -l | grep mysql
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[19:09:00] Anonycat: tcp 0 0 *:mysql *:* LISTEN
[19:09:00] Anonycat: unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 963432 /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
[19:09:00] xris: Anonycat: did it ever work, or is this a new installation?
[19:10:00] Anonycat: New installation
[19:10:00] xris: distro?
[19:10:00] Anonycat: Fedora 4
[19:10:00] xris: turn off selinux?
[19:11:00] Anonycat: is that "setenforce 0" or something?
[19:12:00] xris: dunno. I use the gui and turn it off there.
[19:12:00] Anonycat: It says SELinux isn't enabled
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[19:30:00] xris: ok, did you create a user for mythtv within mysql?
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[19:31:00] ** Beirdo yawns **
[19:31:00] Beirdo: my brain hurts
[19:32:00] Krazylegz: Start drinking.
[19:32:00] Beirdo: I'm at work
[19:32:00] Beirdo: and that wouldn't help
[19:32:00] Beirdo: I COULD use more coffee though
[19:35:00] Krazylegz: Oh, you thought I meant alcohol? :-)
[19:35:00] Beirdo: nah, it hurts from stress, not booze
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[19:36:00] cougar_h: any idea how to debug lirc? irw shows all keypresses but mythtv doesn't react (I see at least that it opens lirc device)
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[19:51:00] laga: cougar_h: well, do you have a lircrc?
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[19:53:00] cougar_h: yes
[19:54:00] cougar_h: smthng like this for each key
[19:54:00] cougar_h: ws88:pts22:~>head .mythtv/lircrc
[19:54:00] cougar_h: begin
[19:54:00] cougar_h: prog = mythtv
[19:54:00] cougar_h: button = CHANNELUP
[19:54:00] cougar_h: config = PgUp
[19:54:00] cougar_h: end
[19:55:00] laga: looks good to me.
[19:55:00] cougar_h: I use this file http://blatter.com/mceusb/lircrc_MYTH_EXAMPLE but I changed button names to all uppercase because this is how irw reports my keys (they are so configured in /etc/lircd.conf)
[19:55:00] cougar_h: I don't get any error or anything but it just doesn't do anything
[19:56:00] laga: look at mythfrontend --help and/or ldd `which mythfrontend` to make sure that you have compiled it with lirc suppot
[19:56:00] laga: support*
[19:57:00] cougar_h: yes I have it. when I remove .mythtv/lircrc then it complain that config does not exist and disables lirc support
[19:57:00] laga: ok.
[19:59:00] laga: umm.
[19:59:00] laga: are you completely sure that the buttons in your lircrc match the buttons reported by irc?
[19:59:00] laga: irw*
[20:01:00] cougar_h: I see in strace that it opens lirc device and reads it also
[20:01:00] cougar_h: [pid 15371] read(10, "000000037ff07be0 00 \'DOWN\' mceusb\n", 100) = 34
[20:01:00] cougar_h: [pid 15371] read(10, "000000037ff07be0 01 \'DOWN\' mceusb\n", 100) = 34
[20:01:00] cougar_h: hmm.. but why \'DOWN\' and not just DOWN
[20:03:00] laga: looks like escaping to me
[20:03:00] cougar_h: yeah, sometimes you just need to think loud.. there was 'DOWN' in /etc/lircd.conf but looks that these '-s are not needed and it works without them! :-)
[20:04:00] laga: nice :)
[20:04:00] cougar_h: I took everything from http://blatter.com/mceusb/ but looks that these files don't work together..
[20:04:00] cougar_h: anyway, thanks for your response here :-)
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[20:05:00] laga: np, have fun :)
[20:05:00] cougar_h: btw, I have one much harder problem. I don't hav any OSD information and in config ODS font field is empty but it is not possible to choose anything there and it is not possible to enter anything there
[20:05:00] cougar_h: everything worked with last setup but then I completely reinstalled database. Not sure but it might thet last time I put font name manually to the database
[20:06:00] laga: uh, that's odd
[20:07:00] laga: well, just hack the database manually then ;)
[20:08:00] cougar_h: but is it then mhythtv bug in setup routines? and how other people get it work ;-)
[20:08:00] cougar_h: I'd better like to find cause and be sure that with next fresh install I get it again ;-)
[20:09:00] cougar_h: maybe it is problem in SVN that nobody hasn't noticed (if it was on in 0.18 for instance)..
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[20:15:00] mchou: fitzmas!
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[20:20:00] shotoWork: hi
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[20:28:00] shotoWork: ne1 know if there is any way to configure tda9887 modules without doing rmmod/modprobe each time?
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[20:54:00] brikus: I just recompiled my kernel and now all the external modules (ivtv, lirc, ... ) are giving me lots of unknown symbol errors. Any ideas as to why?
[20:57:00] cougar_h: you should recompile modules also
[20:57:00] kormoc: bradd, you have to recompile all them as well
[20:57:00] kormoc: bradd == brikus
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[21:04:00] vladg: So all of a sudden ivtv won't modprobe. This is what I get in dmesg: "ivtv: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module". Any ideas?
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[21:08:00] pmowry: Hi, any known reasons to avoid latest SVN version? I saw some stuff about back to back recording a few weeks ago, but I'm sure that's been resolved.
[21:09:00] Krazylegz: From now on, all "should I use SVN" questions shall be responded to with, "YES SVN NEEDZ TESTING PLZ TY."
[21:09:00] Krazylegz: :-)
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[21:10:00] brikus: There a way to get ALSA to run on the PVR-350?
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[21:12:00] pmowry: hehe, works for me. I'm running 0.19.20050712–1. I'm sure a lot has changed since then.
[21:12:00] pmowry: brikus: ALSA on the 350? I do not believe you can use it as a soundcard. I believe the audio output is only from the mpeg decoder.
[21:13:00] pmowry: So I have mine connected to line-in and the soundcard to the TV.
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[21:15:00] pmowry: virtualkeyboard.cpp, that could be interesting.
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[21:19:00] pmowry: dmn, should have backed up the directory before doing an update. I place my faith with the developers.
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[21:25:00] TiTAN_pi8: hellow everybody
[21:25:00] pmowry: =)
[21:26:00] TiTAN_pi8: can anybody tell me how to let mythfrontend display the option to shutdown the pc when I quit it?
[21:26:00] TiTAN_pi8: it works on a pc where the backend isn't local (network connected) but on the pc running front- and backend the option is not displayed
[21:28:00] GreyFoxx: TiTAN_pi8: You have to mod the code. It specifically doesn't show the option on a box that has the backend on it
[21:28:00] GreyFoxx: Unless someone has recently added a setup option to override that
[21:28:00] TiTAN_pi8: that kinda sux because I'm running debian and I installed the binaries
[21:29:00] pmowry: Is that what mythwelcome / mythshutdown in SVN could be used for?
[21:29:00] pmowry: I'm just started looking at those 60 seconds ago.
[21:29:00] otwin: doesn´t AllowQuitShutdown in the settings table control that?
[21:29:00] GreyFoxx: pw: I have no idea what those are for
[21:30:00] GreyFoxx: otwin: That might be the newly(aka svn) added option to do it
[21:30:00] TiTAN_pi8: i'm gonna c if I have that option
[21:30:00] bazil: ive fucked up the settings for the play dvd option in mythdvd . what is the command for running dvdplayer with mythdvd in mplayer ?
[21:30:00] otwin: i am using 0.18.1
[21:30:00] otwin: TiTAN_pi8: try setting it to ´4´
[21:30:00] TiTAN_pi8: thank you
[21:31:00] TiTAN_pi8: otwin, i have that version too, i think
[21:32:00] TiTAN_pi8: darn, option isn't there
[21:32:00] GreyFoxx: I didn't think so. I'm 99% sure it was not optional under 0.18
[21:32:00] GreyFoxx: but it's been quite a while since I ran 0.18 so my memory could be fuzzy
[21:32:00] TiTAN_pi8: version: 0.18.1.20050510–1
[21:33:00] TiTAN_pi8: I did an upgrade from older version, maybe the sql database wasn't updated?
[21:33:00] TiTAN_pi8: i can try to add the setting myself
[21:33:00] otwin: hmmm, i have it for all my frontends/backends – version 0.18.1.20050523–1
[21:34:00] GreyFoxx: TiTAN_pi8: Look through the setup menus, as you move through them myth will pop in any settings that have options but no values in the database
[21:34:00] pmowry: It looks like the next release addresses a safe way for what you are looking for.
[21:34:00] pmowry: Browse SVN and look at /mythtv/programs/mythwelcome/README
[21:35:00] TiTAN_pi8: otwin, and it works with you?
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[21:36:00] TiTAN_pi8: pmowry, i already ran mythtv-setup, so the options should have been there
[21:36:00] GreyFoxx: TiTAN_pi8: That sort of option would likely be in mythfrontend, not in setup
[21:36:00] otwin: TiTAN_pi8: wait – i´ll change the value and see what happens
[21:40:00] otwin: changed it´s value to ´1´ and now ESC doesn´t do anything on the mainmenu – so it has some effect. I´ll better test it on the backend...
[21:40:00] GreyFoxx: That's right, that is the setting to allow you to even get a exit menu at all
[21:40:00] GreyFoxx: I had forgotten all about that one
[21:41:00] otwin: ah ok – so you were right
[21:44:00] otwin: just to confirm – i can´t shutdown on the backend, so this setting doesn´t help you
[21:45:00] TiTAN_pi8: thats too bad, i'll have to wait for the svn version to become stable
[21:50:00] GreyFoxx: You could just recompile what you have. It's only like 1 line you need to comment out
[21:51:00] GreyFoxx: You know what the BIGGEST difference between SVN and a released version is? The number of uses testing it :)
[21:51:00] GreyFoxx: It's not like there is magic pixi dust spread on the svn version to make a "stable" one :)
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[22:14:00] shotoWork: ne1 know if there is any way to configure tda9887 modules without doing rmmod/modprobe each time?
[22:14:00] kormoc: there is not a way
[22:15:00] shotoWork: u sure?
[22:16:00] kormoc: yup
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[22:16:00] shotoWork: cuz bttv seem to send some config to tda9887
[22:16:00] kormoc: yup
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[22:17:00] shotoWork: i did a game with showing tv in a part of the screen
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[22:17:00] smoke_: anyoen here using an irblaster?
[22:17:00] shotoWork: i want to be able to change the kind of pal or secam without closing my game
[22:18:00] shotoWork: i tryed it with fbtv
[22:19:00] shotoWork: if fbtv is executed and i rmmod/modprobe tda9887 , fbtv image crash
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[22:44:00] pmowry: hmmm, My wife is watching a recording that I guess will end in 15 minutes. I wonder if I can sneak in an upgrade to latest SVN when it's over without her noticing ;)
[22:46:00] cougar_h: ;-)
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[22:48:00] pmowry: Lets see.... Distract her with a phone call, kill mythtv, make install, start mythfrontend within screen so I can logout..... Or I can just tell her, but were's the fun in that.
[22:49:00] otwin: good luck
[22:49:00] pmowry: :( I'll wait until Tomorrow. I'd rather go see Cowboy Mouth tonight that have to fix anything I break. But the urge to play with new things is overwelming.
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[22:51:00] rsdvd: Hello All.....is there anyone here who knows how to set up MiniMyth on the M10k?
[22:51:00] otwin: rsdvd: i have done it
[22:52:00] rsdvd: otwin: I have got the remote boot working.....but it just gets to the 'choose your language' part of Mythfrontend....and when I choose English it just goes to a blank screen
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[22:52:00] otwin: database problem?
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[22:53:00] rsdvd: could be........I will investigate that......but my other frontend works fine
[22:56:00] otwin: maybe it´s a problem with X – do you have specified a xorg.conf file in your conf directory? are you using tv-out?
[22:56:00] malaTG: I know that this is REALLY of topic but has someone here tried to set up mupen64 and succeeded? And if so is there any descent guide somewhere?
[22:57:00] rsdvd: otwin : I have not specified anything really.....a basic Kernel line in the PXE (as per the linpvr website)
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[22:57:00] rsdvd: Yes I am using TV-OUT ....seeem to be ok but black and white
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[22:58:00] otwin: but you did edit the minimyth.conf file?
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[22:59:00] rsdvd: where is the minimyth file? the howto I followed just said give it the kernel image and the rootfs cram file
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[23:00:00] otwin: mine is here: /tftboot/<frontendhostname>/conf/
[23:00:00] rsdvd: arh....not got one of those..........is there a more up-to-date HOWTO io shold be following?
[23:02:00] otwin: it´s all in the minimyth.conf file – what version did you download?
[23:03:00] otwin: don´t believe anything you see on linpvr.org, it´s very outdated. stick to the forum you find there.
[23:03:00] rsdvd: I started with the one from linpvr.org (0.5.1) but there are messages saying this is nolonger the latest....then I changed for 0.18.0.0beta1 I found on a list
[23:04:00] otwin: this is the place to get it: http://linpvr.org/dnload/releases/
[23:05:00] otwin: 0.18.1.8 is the latest – read the minimyth.conf you find there
[23:06:00] rsdvd: thank you......this is starting to make more sense. do you know whey the linpvr.org site is out-of-date?
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[23:09:00] otwin: time/motivation will be the problem. don´t be worried – minimyth itself is still being developped
[23:10:00] rsdvd: Wonderfull.....looks like a fantastic solution (if I can get it to work)
[23:12:00] otwin: i love it – the epia could just be a bit more powerfull for a nicer OSD.
[23:13:00] rsdvd: which epia do you have?
[23:13:00] otwin: m-10000
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[23:14:00] rsdvd: Mmmmm......worried you think it is not powerful enough.....I was hopeing this frontend would work well
[23:14:00] otwin: you get no fading and OSD is b/w
[23:14:00] otwin: it works great – just the OSD.
[23:14:00] rsdvd: ok
[23:14:00] otwin: try it out
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[23:14:00] rsdvd: LOL....I will when I get through reading allthis stuff
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[23:15:00] otwin: if you get it to boot over network the worst is done
[23:16:00] rsdvd: that bit was easy.......I went through that pain last month when I mistakenly bought a Media MVP...and had to network boot that.....I haver managed to get that working either :-)
[23:17:00] otwin: so no problem then ;-)
[23:17:00] rsdvd: LOL! you would never guess I am a computing Gradualte and worked in a software house for years :-) everything I touch seesm to fail where Myth is concerned
[23:18:00] otwin: well you can´t break the minimyth image – it´s all read-only
[23:18:00] otwin: :-)
[23:18:00] rsdvd: LOL....thats good to know
[23:20:00] rsdvd: otwin: I don't suppose you have a Hauppague MediaMVP aswell?
[23:21:00] xris: otwin: fix your client so you're not sending "smart" quotes
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[23:23:00] otwin: xris: should i use "these"?
[23:24:00] xris: otwin: much better. yours was sending unicode characters before... can´t
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[23:24:00] otwin: rsdvd: no, but a pinnacle showcenter that has nothing to do since i am using mythtv
[23:25:00] otwin: xris: hmm, i am using the irc function in opera. what is THE irc client for linux?
[23:26:00] rsdvd: Just though you might mange to work out why that won;t work to.......since you seem to have pointed me in the right direction with minimyth.....just a thought
[23:26:00] xris: otwin: xchat, irssi, gaim... take your pick.
[23:26:00] dev-: bitchx, epic, blackened
[23:27:00] otwin: ok – thx
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[23:47:00] Kaetzchen: I bought two MVP's a bit ago, and got them working
[23:47:00] mchou: Kaetzchen: yeah? How well do they work?
[23:47:00] mchou: You get them at rat shack?
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[23:48:00] PaulWay: Greetings, sons of guns!
[23:48:00] Kaetzchen: they play files from DVArchive and my Replay TV ok over wired ethernet, not so good over 802.11b, havn't setup Myth yet
[23:48:00] Kaetzchen: yeah the $40 each clearance
[23:48:00] laga: Kaetzchen: come, kitty kitty...
[23:48:00] mchou: Kaetzchen: bah, what good are you. Get them working with myth :)
[23:49:00] mchou: Kaetzchen: and get a wired network
[23:49:00] PaulWay: Anyone here tried getting transcode's export_pvm system working?
[23:52:00] rsdvd: otwin : are you still around?
[23:53:00] PaulWay: Alternatively, anyone here got a /usr/lib/transcode/export_pvm.so file?
[23:54:00] otwin: rsdvd: yes
[23:55:00] rsdvd: it seems to be having issues with my dhcp.....because I don't specify much (most my my machines ahve their own DNS etc)....do you know what is needed in the DHCP server for it to boot?
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